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Vito Corleone
03-27-09, 23:51
Hi,
This Palace forum has been literally dead for 4 days!
Where is everyone?
Everyone is running away from the sharks & heading to Bernds.
M P Lurker
03-28-09, 06:00
Hi,
This Palace forum has been literally dead for 4 days!
Where is everyone?Some of us cannot get to FKK within every 4 days. Away from Frankfurt and busy!
M P Lurker
03-28-09, 06:11
Initially talked to two Thai girls, the names I have lost, but one was taller with teeth that were a little imperfect (6.5), and the other was more compact with a sweet face and a great butt (7.5).
The taller one approached me and was keen to get started and the compact one was not making any effort to engage anyone.The Thai girls vary. I stay away from the tall pushy one.
I remember the bolt-ons but not the teeth. Probably named Kim or Joy.
Some of them are a bit shy. Hence lack of being pushy with you. You should approach them if you like them.
Bee with large back tatoo is clearly the best of the Thai girls. Very fun girl like a girlfriend and great performance. Some of the others performed very well as they liked me and chemistry was good.
Some of them are scared of guys with big fat dicks. Perhaps her mouth was too small to take your whole salami.
You didn't say how much time you spent with the girl. Seems strange she was asking for 100 unless she was servicing you more than 30 mins. I haven't found any of them discussing the price with me but they know I am experienced and fair.
Hi all,
Does anyone know the name of this girl (photo 12-14, 33, 40, 41 from Palace web page www.fkk-palace.de)? What can you say about her?
Thank you
Previously, (01-06-09), Checkers1 asked if anyone knew some of the ladies on the Palace web site http://www.the-palace.de/ladies.php
Does anyone know the names of the ladies on the Palace Website? The pictures heve been updated http://www.the-palace.de/ladies.php
and he got several replies. Further to that request, I would like to try and id two more ladies: Photos #: 12 - 14, 33 and 40-41, as well as 47 - 55, amongst others. These are two I would like to encounter on my upcoming trip. Anyone have names? Are they Sharks? Thanks in advance.
Myr. ;)
Update: I just noticed Sabur's post requesting info on the same blonde (#12 - 14 etc.) as I. Nice to know I am not alone in my selection!
PeterTaylor
03-28-09, 17:49
Hi,
Landing lunch time Wednesday and plan to visit Palace. Thursday recuperate/RLD. Friday travel over to Oase.
Grateful for any views. How do I get to Oase from Frankfurt? Been to Palace on a Friday, but not Wednesday. Is it busy?
Thanks,
Peter
... as well as 47 - 55, amongst others. These are two I would like to encounter on my upcoming trip. Anyone have names? Are they Sharks? Thanks in advance.
Myr. ;)
47-55 is Indira. Romanian, fantastic body. Fantastic session. She is a bit of a smartass, but very nice in the room.
47-55 is Indira. Romanian, fantastic body. Fantastic session. She is a bit of a smartass, but very nice in the room.
Worked before long in PHG, there some of us will still know her as Lavinia! She is sometimes a little bit crazy but has a lot of fans.
Regards,
Big30
Worked before long in PHG, there some of us will still know her as Lavinia! She is sometimes a little bit crazy but has a lot of fans.
Regards,
Big30 She also did a short stint at Oase
47-55 is Indira. Romanian, fantastic body. Fantastic session. She is a bit of a smartass, but very nice in the room.
...& Big30, thanks for the info. :)
I already had Indira on my must do list. Now it has a large star next to it. (Maybe a cherry would be better?) :rolleyes:
She also did a short stint at Oase
Forgot to mention! Also saw her there, although I believe she stayed not long in Oase. We had a very interesting talk when I spotted her there :-).
Regards,
Big30
ps. yes she was also in FKK-Haus just like Louisa (in FKK-Haus her name was Bianac) also ex-PHG. By the way anyone seen Louisa recently? I saw her in sommer and December in Villa Vertigo and I know very short she was in Golden Time Wien end of Sommer.
Slimmest Shady
03-29-09, 17:39
Had a great first time at the Palace. Paid 75 Euros for entrance. Was explained the rules in English by a friendly hostess.
Place seemed very clean and it exceeded my expectations for what I had expected to see.
Grabbed my shoes, had a shower and hit the floor.
I thought I could remember the names of who I was seeing but I forgot. There were so many that were introduced to me.
I ended up staying for 5 hours and had 4 girls.
First one was the skinny blonde which I think was from Moldavia. There are some pictures of her on the Palace site. Had DFK, MPOS and it was a great first 50 Euros.
The next was a ME looking girl who later did some dancing on the stage in a belly dancer costume. There was some LFK and I ended up plowing her anally. Ask and ye shall receive. I know it was an additional 100 Euros but I was here to get a few things out of the way. Anal again was one of them. The BJ was covered which I thought was odd but what the hell. I gave it back to her with the anal.
The third was a jaunt in the Kino. Reports are correct about being molested in the Kino. One after another would come up. I gave in after the 3rd one kept stroking in and started sucking it in the Kino. A little show and we were off to the room. She was a light black chick with fake tits and a stubbly pussy. Did the 50 Euros and had a teethy BBBJ and ended up reverse mish for the end.
The last was one from Hungary. Big fake tits. Bubble butt and lips that looked done. She was 30ish perhaps but had that fake European look that looked on the trashy side. I ate it up and had a great time waiting for a room while she jerked me off on the couch while some Asian guy was sitting beside us. In the room was a great BBBJ with BLS and MPOS. She had great big fake tits. Was a great finish for the evening.
Rates:
75 Euro entrance.
50 Euro 1/2 hour in room. One pop.
50 Euro extra for CIM
50 Euro extra for extra time
100 Euro for anal.
Total spent for me that night was 375 Euros.
Hope this helps.
I ended up staying for 5 hours and had 4 girls.
You were a very busy boy!
First one was the skinny blonde which I think was from Moldavia. There are some pictures of her on the Palace site. Had DFK, MPOS and it was a great first 50 Euros.
Can you tell us which Photo number(s) she is on the site? I am looking to ID Photos #12-14, 33, 40-41 - All the same lady.
The next was a ME looking girl who later did some dancing on the stage in a belly dancer costume. There was some LFK and I ended up plowing her anally. Ask and ye shall receive. I know it was an additional 100 Euros but I was here to get a few things out of the way. Anal again was one of them. The BJ was covered which I thought was odd but what the hell. I gave it back to her with the anal.
Your right, it is odd about the CBJ, as I thought it was BBBJ, unless requested.
Thanks again for your first impressions. I will be getting mine shortly and am encouraged by your report. To date, I was expecting nothing but sharks for the first while, until you could establish that you knew what you were doing. After all, no matter how you dress it up, I will be NEW: N = Never been seen by anyone in the place before; E = English is all I speak; W = What about that Accent? It is a hurdle that newbies from across the pond must clear, but if you establish control through observation, conversation with ladies/men, and exercising the ability to say 'Nein, Danke' when necessary, I guess it can work out.
Thanks again for the report. Nice job.
Ozzy Ozzman
03-30-09, 00:13
Hey guys,
I had a flight through Frankfurt recently, so I managed to arrange it so that I spent the night there before connecting. The night-over was of course totally unnecessary with regards to flights, but it would be such a waste to just stop by FRA without a mongering pit stop in the city.
So I visited Palace on a Thursday night, and stayed there from about 9 till 3 in the morning. The place was pretty quiet all night. The night before there had been some kind of party, which, as far as I could gather from the girls, had really bombed. If this is something of a trend due to the difficult financial times, a lowering of the prices, especially entrance fee, would suit me very nice, thank you.
Anyhow, I had two sessions with Czech Evelina (both for one hour, one including CIM) and one session with Lithuanian Roxanna (half an hour). All sessions were very good. I've now got a thing for Evelina, and by that I mean I REALLY got a thing for her. Gotta be careful, this can lead nowhere good...
The other two Czech busty beauties (Gina and Angelina) were there as well, looking striking as usual. It's a bit weird though, seeing a dazzling girl like Angelina prowling the locales tirelessly, apparently without too much business. Oh well, the times are tough for many of us.
Also, Roxanna told me that she and a Brazilian girl (name unknown) were going to be working at Artemis shortly for one week (could be this week). So for you Berliners out there, if you run across her, she's highly recommended.
Another interesting thing; a girl I chatted with (won't reveal her name) told me that her monthly expenses are in the region of € 6000-7000, which includes entrance fees, make up, condoms, taxis, etc. She didn't want to tell me how much money she makes, but just think of what the turnover must be when you can carry that kind of expenses!
Not sure when my next visit to Palace will be. I'm slated for Berlin in about a month, but I hope to visit Palace too one more time before Evelina goes on summer leave.
Auf Wiedersehen, Palace.
Ozzy
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Ozzy Ozzman
03-30-09, 00:56
Thanks again for your first impressions. I will be getting mine shortly and am encouraged by your report. To date, I was expecting nothing but sharks for the first while, until you could establish that you knew what you were doing. After all, no matter how you dress it up, I will be NEW: N = Never been seen by anyone in the place before; E = English is all I speak; W = What about that Accent? It is a hurdle that newbies from across the pond must clear, but if you establish control through observation, conversation with ladies/men, and exercising the ability to say 'Nein, Danke' when necessary, I guess it can work out.You make it sound like visiting Palace for the first time is like swimming in the fish tank of some James Bond villain. Trust me, it isn't.
My recommendations if you've never been to an FKK before, is to keep cool and don't be swept away by first impressions, which can be a little overwhelming, especially if there's lots of girls present when you arrive.
If one of the most beautiful girls you've ever seen comes over to you naked and asks if you want to join her in the Zimmer, maybe even starts fondling your dick a little, don't say yes straight away. Ask what she will and won't do and what she charges extra for. Then decide for yourself if you want to pay extra for DFK or DATY if that isn't included in the standard charge. My view on girls who charge these extras is sort of ambivalent. On the one hand, it feels kind of like an extortion when a girl will charge you extra for something an other girl will happily provide as standard. On the other hand, the girls are free entrepreneurs, so if they got the looks or whatever else it takes to make a man pay extra, fair game to them, as long as they are up front with their demands (which is not sharking in my view).
If you can get a general conversation going with the girl, that's great. If she seems aloof, it's probably wise to back off. (This isn't a sure fire method, though; some girls do have an on/off switch when it comes to charm. The off position being reserved for the Zimmer (or in some peculiar cases vice versa.)) Remember that, unless you've gotten too intimate with her already, you are in your full right to turn her down, even without any further explanation if you don't feel like giving any (and if you do, a couple of classics are "I just got here and want to look around first", "I'm looking for a girl I met/saw earlier", "I was just in the Zimmer 15 minutes ago, so I'm not ready yet", "I'm relaxing for the moment" or, if you want to be more direct plus keep her off your back for the rest of the night, "I'm sorry, but I just don't fancy you".)
The last quote threads a fine line, however. You should always treat the girls with as much respect as possible, not primarily because word will get around that you're a nice bloke (which it most likely will eventually), but simply because the girls have a job that I imagine must be hugely demanding on them. So normally, a little white lie would be better than saying something that may be perceived as a negative remark on the girl's looks or personality. The more or less blunt fuck-offs should be reserved only for the most persistent pesters, those who fail in any other way to take no for an answer. (This reminds me of when I was in a Prague cabaret some years ago, and a black girl came over to me and tried to entice me. I was quite intoxicated at the time, so I answered, truthfully and bluntly, "No thanks, I prefer white girls". If looks could kill. Well, I wouldn't be here to write about it.)
Also, if a shark attack happens, it happens. It's not the end of the world, so just chalk it up to experience. The most you stand to lose (if you didn't manage a complete fuck-up) is paying € 50 more than you should.
If you're nervous before your first visit, I recommend a couple of beers to soothe your nerves. German beer is by far the best beer in the world. However, I think you'll ruin your experience if you go there drunk, so don't go overboard on the alcohol.
Always remember why you're there. To have fun. And know that most of girls are genuinely nice and dedicated to giving you a good experience (and they know just as well as us what a guy thinks is a good experience and not), if for no other reason than the motto of "a happy customer is a good customer" (or something like that.)
Good luck and have fun!
Ozzy
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Slimmest Shady
03-30-09, 03:42
The skinny blonde was picture 93 and 94 and in a few other group shots. She looks a bit better in person. Especially if you like them thin like that. You will see what I mean when you see her ass.
M P Lurker
03-30-09, 04:01
Hi,
Landing lunch time Wednesday and plan to visit Palace. Thursday recuperate/RLD. Friday travel over to Oase.
Grateful for any views. How do I get to Oase from Frankfurt? Been to Palace on a Friday, but not Wednesday. Is it busy?
Thanks,
PeterIMHO, forget the RLD. Harder to get good value but possible. Could wind up with a ladyboy.
The skinny blonde was picture 93 and 94 and in a few other group shots. She looks a bit better in person. Especially if you like them thin like that. You will see what I mean when you see her ass.
Thanks for the ID. I will be looking for her as well.
Hi,
Landing lunch time Wednesday and plan to visit Palace. Thursday recuperate/RLD. Friday travel over to Oase.
Grateful for any views. How do I get to Oase from Frankfurt? Been to Palace on a Friday, but not Wednesday. Is it busy?
Thanks,
Peter
Oase:
Train S5 to Bad Homburg/Friedrichsdorf, and taxi from there (9 euro from Friedrichsdorf/15 from Bad Homburg).
Palace on Wednesday vs. Friday:
Depends on if there is a Messe or not, and which Messe. Check www.messefrankfurt.com. I would not worry to much. If quieter, the lineup should still be adequate this time of year (save for the upcoming holiday season).
I would too skip RLD. Save the money and rest. Or revisit Palace or do the Oase trip.
The other two Czech busty beauties (Gina and Angelina) were there as well, looking striking as usual. It's a bit weird though, seeing a dazzling girl like Angelina prowling the locales tirelessly, apparently without too much business. Oh well, the times are tough for many of us.
I've got the Czech Blond Brigade on my 'No' list because I like DFK without paying extra; but continually see good comments about them. I won't know til the situation, (or something else) arises, but I may have to be flexible on that rule (see also my comments below) ;)
Another interesting thing; a girl I chatted with (won't reveal her name) told me that her monthly expenses are in the region of € 6000-7000, which includes entrance fees, make up, condoms, taxis, etc. She didn't want to tell me how much money she makes, but just think of what the turnover must be when you can carry that kind of expenses!
I once said that I would not judge one of these ladies and their method of approach until I had walked a mile (sorry, kilometer) in her stilettos. It is worth seeing the situation from their perspective. You do the math @ € 50 / half hour it takes a while, or some decent 'upselling', to achieve their goal. That reinforces the idea that if you like the person / service then a 'tip' of an extra or another session would probably be well received.
You make it sound like visiting Palace for the first time is like swimming in the fish tank of some James Bond villain. Trust me, it isn't.
If one of the most beautiful girls you've ever seen comes over to you naked and asks if you want to join her in the Zimmer, maybe even starts fondling your dick a little, don't say yes straight away. Ask what she will and won't do and what she charges extra for. Then decide for yourself if you want to pay extra for DFK or DATY if that isn't included in the standard charge. My view on girls who charge these extras is sort of ambivalent. On the one hand, it feels kind of like an extortion when a girl will charge you extra for something an other girl will happily provide as standard. On the other hand, the girls are free entrepreneurs, so if they got the looks or whatever else it takes to make a man pay extra, fair game to them, as long as they are up front with their demands (which is not sharking in my view).
Always remember why you're there. To have fun. And know that most of girls are genuinely nice and dedicated to giving you a good experience (and they know just as well as us what a guy thinks is a good experience and not), if for no other reason than the motto of "a happy customer is a good customer" (or something like that.)
I got my jaded perspective reading the negative Palace bashing on the board. (January was a particularly bad month) Since then reports such as this one have given new insight. I've been preparing for this for a long time, perhaps too long and am just anxious to get on with it.
Your comment about the ladies being free entrepreneurs is valid, particularly in light of your observation in your other post about the alleged monthly expenses of the ladies. Given that, although I don't like it, paying € 50 for DFK to a Czech Blond Brigade member may be an extortion that I am willing to accept as an exception to the norm.
Hi,
Landing lunch time Wednesday and plan to visit Palace. Thursday recuperate/RLD. Friday travel over to Oase.
Grateful for any views. How do I get to Oase from Frankfurt? Been to Palace on a Friday, but not Wednesday. Is it busy?
Thanks,
Peter
Just a thing to be aware of: Dessous Day is Wednesday @ Palace, Thursday @ Oase. This may impact your decision as to which day to visit, depending on your preferences.
If one of the most beautiful girls you've ever seen comes over to you naked and asks if you want to join her in the Zimmer, maybe even starts fondling your dick a little, don't say yes straight away. Ask what she will and won't do and what she charges extra for. Then decide for yourself if you want to pay extra for DFK or DATY if that isn't included in the standard charge. My view on girls who charge these extras is sort of ambivalent. On the one hand, it feels kind of like an extortion when a girl will charge you extra for something an other girl will happily provide as standard. On the other hand, the girls are free entrepreneurs, so if they got the looks or whatever else it takes to make a man pay extra, fair game to them, as long as they are up front with their demands (which is not sharking in my view)
Hey Ozzy,
Thank you for some great reporting. Glad you had a good time. Generally speaking I also think you give sound advice back to the forum. Still I would like to give a comment on the "charging extra" subject - even though we have been over this numerous times in the past.
I can easily understand why you feel it is "ok" that girls may charge whatever they want for whatever they want as long as they are upfront with it. The point here is that the girls who charge extra do NOT have the looks or anything else that should make a man pay extra. The few stunners who try this do so just because they smell newbie, and first timers to Palace should be aware that there are still plenty of stunners at this club that provide standard services for a standard fee. Just be patient, smile and thank her politely no ("Sorry, but I never pay extra for that!"), and move on. Enjoy the hunting. This is why you are there.
If you want to reward a girl, extend the session.
The funny thing is that it is NOT the most beautiful girls or those with extraordinary skills who is trying to charge extras for standard services. They just try it simply because they know that they sometimes can get away with it. And the more men who pay extras for standard services, the more girls will ask for extra payment. If this development continues, we end up with a fucked up market in what used to be one of my favorite clubs.
So, please do a favour to those who follow in your footsteps in Palace: Do NOT accept paying extra for standard services. Do NOT forget that the vast majority of girls in Palace provide standard services for a standard fee. And that includes the most beautiful of them and the ones with the highest skills. Trust me on this one.
Ekliges Lauern
03-30-09, 18:23
I got my jaded perspective reading the negative Palace bashing on the board. (January was a particularly bad month) Since then reports such as this one have given new insight. I've been preparing for this for a long time, perhaps too long and am just anxious to get on with it.
Your comment about the ladies being free entrepreneurs is valid, particularly in light of your observation in your other post about the alleged monthly expenses of the ladies. Given that, although I don't like it, paying € 50 for DFK to a Czech Blond Brigade member may be an extortion that I am willing to accept as an exception to the norm.
Although I recognize that the ladies are free entrepreneurs (or at least, their managers are), I would strongly advise against accepting non-standard pricing. The reason is it will get around to other girls that you are willing to pay for non-standard extras and you will be subjected to requests for extra Euro by more girls.
I'm more than happy to session with Lena without DFK included. Lena also will not blow me in the Kino. She does give a BJ that is just short of Linda's (9.8 on the Linda 10 point scale) so it is a fair value for the money.
I've never accepted non-standard pricing and it is extremely rare that any of the ladies asks me for non-standard extras.
I can easily understand why you feel it is "ok" that girls may charge whatever they want for whatever they want as long as they are upfront with it. The point here is that the girls who charge extra do NOT have the looks or anything else that should make a man pay extra. The few stunners who try this do so just because they smell newbie, and first timers to Palace should be aware that there are still plenty of stunners at this club that provide standard services for a standard fee. Just be patient, smile and thank her politely no ("Sorry, but I never pay extra for that!"), and move on. Enjoy the hunting! This is why you are there!!
The funny thing is that it is NOT the most beautiful girls or those with extraordinary skills who is trying to charge extras for standard services. They just try it just because they know that they sometimes can get away with it. And the more men who pay extras for standard services, the more girls will ask for extra payment. If this development continues, we end up with a fucked up market in what used to be one of my favorite clubs.
If you want to reward a girl, extend the session.
So, please do a favour to those who follow in your footsteps in Palace: Do NOT pay extra for standard services. Do NOT forget that the vast majority of girls in Palace provide standard services for a standard fee. And that includes the most beautiful of them and the ones with the highest skills. Trust me on this one.
Your comment about the ladies being free entrepreneurs is valid, particularly in light of your observation in your other post about the alleged monthly expenses of the ladies. Given that, although I don't like it, paying € 50 for DFK to a Czech Blond Brigade member may be an extortion that I am willing to accept as an exception to the norm.
Two views and I can agree with both. I have to dissuade the lady from wanting more for the basics, while at the same time accepting that they are under pressure and how much am I willing to spend?
I thought it was once suggested with the Czech Brigade that they would soften their position on DFK if you extended to an hour. Last time I mentioned that I was flamed for giving in to extortion, and yet it could be seen as a tip to extend the session, (and get what I wanted). Extending the session (tipping) without the inclusion of DFK would not be acceptable, just as tipping for DFK within the original 30 min. would also not be acceptable.
In the end, I will probably say: "Nein, Danke" to them in hope of getting what I want elsewhere. You are probably quite correct in pointing out that if you give in even just once, you will be a marked man. It's just that sometimes there is not enough blood for two heads to function at the same time!
Well, I do not think extending the session will necessarily get you DFK. If you ask for DFK, and she sets the terms (either "no" or "for an extra fee"), it is my experience that you have to accept the terms or move on. She will lose face otherwise. But it may be worth a shot ("No, I will not pay extra for kissing, but if the first half hour is great with lots of stroking and kissing, we could stay for one hour!").
This is why I do not like discussing the terms verbally. I am usually better off using couch action to know the girl better (without discussing terms as it ruins the mood), smile and look for a good time, making her relax ("seducing her"), and after a while - before committing myself - go for a DFK. Either it is silently accepted, or she turn her head away. Then you know. You still have the option to back out if she does not DFK or suddenly inform you that she wants extra money for it.
For me DFK is not crucial and I can accept a session without it. So for me it is sometimes better to wait with starting DFK until we are inside a room. For some girls this is important, as they do not like showing in public that they provide kissing (wants to decide for themselves who they will provide such service).
YMMV. Lena does not DFK EL. She usually LFK'ed me. And her lips are all over Don Vito! ;-)) Oh well. With a different girl it could be the other way around. You never know.
Have fun! :-)
PS:
BTW why not try "Vielleicht spaeter" (maybe later) in stead of "Nein Danke" and keep your options open? Ah, them social games ...
I got my jaded perspective reading the negative Palace bashing on the board. (January was a particularly bad month) Since then reports such as this one have given new insight. I've been preparing for this for a long time, perhaps too long and am just anxious to get on with it.
Your comment about the ladies being free entrepreneurs is valid, particularly in light of your observation in your other post about the alleged monthly expenses of the ladies. Given that, although I don't like it, paying € 50 for DFK to a Czech Blond Brigade member may be an extortion that I am willing to accept as an exception to the norm.
If you ever do decide to pay an extra 50E for DFK, you should perhaps consider asking the girl for a free sample before you decide. What if you agree to pay, but the girl just doesn't DFK with the natural passion you seek. I've found that some girls who are really proficient at DFK will use it to good advantage. If a girl seeks to charge extra for this service that is otherwise standard with other girls, then I am a bit wary always and would like to see that they can deliver the talent they imply by charging extra.
How about this: If a girl asks for an extra 50E for DFK and you really, really fancy her: Tell her that you will pay an extra 50E for a session with DFK, but you want that session to be 1 hour, not 30mins! If the girl balks at this and wants a pure 50E just for DFK (which puts DFK on the same level as CIM or anal in some cases!) then I would seriously consider NOT going to the zimmer with her. There are so many girls who are really good DFKers who will show you that skill as an enticement to get you into the zimmer. Any girl who won't even give you at the very least a short free sample: I would consider this a potential red flag and would not want to risk a dud or disappointing session. Any girl who doesn't kiss you naturally from the couch onwards, probably doesn't like kissing men in an FKK club, even if it is for money. If she doesn't like it, it won't work for me or blow me away. I seek during each session with a new girl to be "blown away" to have a session that meets or exceeds my greatest GFEs to date. I just don't trust girls who charge extra for DFK to deliver the DFK performance to blow me away...
Ortos
Ekliges Lauern
03-30-09, 20:02
YMMV. Lena does not DFK EL. She usually LFK'ed me. And her lips are all over Don Vito! ;-)) Oh well. With a different girl it could be the other way around. You never know.
Have fun! :-)
PS:
BTW why not try "Vielleicht spaeter" (maybe later) in stead of "Nein Danke" and keep your options open? Ah, them social games ...
I honestly can't remember if Lena DFK'd me. I had turned Lena down for years. Then I was talking to a monger who had nothing but glowing things to say about her. In my eyes, she is hot visually, so I figured it was worth a 50Euro risk.
The exchange (auf Deutsch) went something like this?
Lena (for the hundreth time): Zimmer?
EL: OK, but let's go in the Kino.
Lena: I don't go in the Kino.
EL: OK, fine, Zimmer it is.
Let me explain I can go either way on DFK. Some girls I like to, others well, the image of ten other guys spooging in their mouths before my session make DFK less than appealing, Also, if I am in a week long mongering campaign, there are health concerns with tounge wrestling with 20-30 odd different women. So I'm not particularly disappointed if a girl doesn't want to DFK.
Anyway, what I remember from the session is a magnificent BJ, very similar to Linda's. I also remember Lena riding me and me fondling her perfect breasts. I also remember fucking her doggie style and really liking the curves from her butt to the small of her back and up to her shoulders. I remember a magnificent finish in her mouth.
I can't remember if we kissed. Tells you how important it is to me.
Cheers,
EL
..To Learn From. I am indeed one lucky Grasshopper!
Thank you Ekliges Lauern, Ortos and Shark16 and the others for taking the time to pass on your thoughts. I must take a little from each and make it my own. Of course, I do not know what will come out of my mouth, or go in it for that matter, until I am there. Thank you again, Myr. ;)
Finally got the opportunity to visit the Palace in Frankfurt. Wow, what a great place. Stayed at the Flemings Hotel which is located right next door the Palace and it's a pleasant 4 star type place with reasonable rates. 75 Euro in my case.
Arrived at the Palace at around noon and paid the 75 Euro entry. Off to the lockers and into the robe and then a stroll around. Quickly meet Nicoletta from Italy. Stunning tall blonde size 8. Sit down for a chat that quickly progresses to DTK and a hand rubbing my now hard cock. Off to a room for a very passionate session with lots of BBBJ, DATY, DTK and some very hard sex in many positions. Settle on the 50 euro - what good value.
Set about trying to find ways to recover and hold out for about an hour and a half before I meet Julia from Russia at the bar. She is about a size 10 and very pleasant but not stunning. But her passionate DTKs at the bar convinces me to go with her. Into the room and she is fantastic. It's like she is desperate to make really passionate love. Her kisses are so good, her pussy tastes like a dream and boy can she suck cock. No lube needed this time and she mounts and grinds away. Lots of great sex and she even convincingly appears to orgasm. No rush out of the room as I slowly recover. 50 Euro again - fantastic.
Set about the recovery again. Some food, a lay down and swim in the Jacuzzi. Kill another 1.5 hours and meet Magdalena from Hungry and the bar. We share a drink, very pleasant. She is tiny with a hard athletic body. She is also an aerobic instructor. Off to the room again. All the works again. She is sucking my cock like no tomorrow in and effort to score the extra 50 for CIM but being the third time around I have lots of staying power. I then thrash her tight little pussy and finish off in doggy with her doing some great stuff with her pussy mussels. A little more mechanical than the other two but still very good. Another 50 well spent.
I almost crawl to the shower. It is only 4pm but I realise my body is spent. So I dress, leave and slowly walk next door to my hotel where I quickly crash. What a day in heaven. Thank god for Cialis. I couldn't have survived without it.
It is now the morning of day 2 in Frankfurt and I'm thinking of doing it all again.
It was a raining and miserable Sunday in Frankfurt so I decided to back up for a second day at the Palace. With my experience from the previous day I certainly felt more confident.
Arrived around 1pm and there was a small crowd of men and lots of girls, many different from the previous day. Had a soft drink at the bar and was approached by Natasha, a beautiful girl from the Ukraine. After some passionate kissing we moved to a room. She was an excellent performer, great kissing, BBBJ, DATY and some very passionate sex. She could really work wonders with her pussy mussels. No rushing and a nice relaxed session. Great way to start the day and spend 50 Euros.
Restarted the recovery process and the after an hour of so decided to have a look at the theatre room which I hadn't been to before. Pornos were showing on the big screen but the theatre was empty. However, Victoria from the Ukraine had followed me in and suggested we get comfortable on a mattress up the back. This all progressed pretty quickly into bbbj and then sex. All the while a crowd seemed to be building up in the theatre. I tried very hard to ignore my audience but I was enjoying myself but I didn't want to stall. At this stage I thought it was an appropriate time to invest my first CIM for the two days and CIM I did to great effect. A very interesting way to spend 100 Euros.
Really needed to recover this time and found the Wellness area which was very peaceful and screening a soccer game in silence. After a good break a Thai girl named Lucky approached me suggesting a massage and at that point it seemed like a really good idea. We went off to a room and she gave me a wonderful Thai massage which revived me significantly. I turned over and we agreed to make it an hour session. Wow could she ever fuck. Her pussy was dripping. I had to really grind and pound her. She kept cumming and shaking and was lathered in perspiration. It was another 100 Euros very well spent.
The 6 pm dinner was now in site. I had a spa and another rest in the wellness area prior. Dinner was a good chance to identify the girl for the final workout. Shortly after dinner I was approached by the hottest Romanian girl, Anna I think. Off we went. A bit pushy to up sell and then it all seemed like a hell of a rush. Given I was on No. 4 for the day, she was wasting her time rushing me and in the end it was a nice HJ finish to my time at the Palace.
Palace by name and Palace by nature. What a great two days and no sleeping pill needed to sleep on the flight home.
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The problem with allowing upselling and tipping is that eventually the girl doesn't bother selling and just charges. For example, some end the session as soon as you finish, so, you don't even get the full time. This eventually leads to charging 100 for 35 minutes. These are much harder to predict or control. The best advice is to not even go down that path.
Basketcase
03-31-09, 03:30
The problem with allowing upselling and tipping is that eventually the girl doesn't bother selling and just charges. For example, some end the session as soon as you finish, so, you don't even get the full time. This eventually leads to charging 100 for 35 minutes. These are much harder to predict or control. The best advice is to not even go down that path.
From my observations, I think the practice of ending the session as soon as you come whether it is in 2 minutes or at 29 minutes is common. Recently at World I saw one blond in high demand churn through 4 guys in just over a 1 hour period. You could assume some of those rooms were CIM extras rooms as well so a nice tidy revenue stream.
I explained this to my crew I was with but one of them had to take the plunge and was taken by her. I had been pining for this blond for like all evening from say 7pm to 3am. Then the cock blocker took her away from me. I guess I was too slow as so many other men had done the same.
I mean I had walked to within 2 metres of her as she leaned on one of the pole dance pedestals scanning the punters in between the kino door and circular bar in the main bar room at World. I knew she did not speak much English so I took a second to think of something in German to say. I had a crew member behind me literally pushing me to go talk to her. I had been raving about her all night wearing the ears of my crew members. She was so beautiful and I was so unworthy. Next thing I know some guy had held his hand out to her and she was gone.
Anyway the cockblocker crew member took her for 1 hour and came back very pleased and then said we were all leaving. I missed out that visit to World.
In the end I came back to World the next day with half the crew which had been split up over choice of venue and finally went with her. Found out that I had been with her before a year ago (somehow I thought she was familiar). I gave her €50 at the end of the session, when I checked my watch I realised that we had spent 45 minutes in the room and I just gave her €50 to no demur from her. This was after I had seen her closing guys out in a quick succession again the second night I was there.
So yes, there are girls that do guys in 10-15 minutes in a room, but those same girls can also give the full time to others. I guess it might be that the crew that I was with are known by many of the girls. It may even be that I am recognised as a regular guest.
At Reception on the first night at World there was this dark haired girl at Reception disputing a €100 charge for a room she had had with a man. The point of issue was 35 minutes was taken and she was charging €100 being €50 for the first 30 minutes and €50 for the second 30 minute slot that was being used up but the man was refusing to pay for the time over run. There was no compromise expected from the man - no incremental pro rata payment or good will gesture. The dispute was settled by the man refusing to pay for the entire session altogether since it upset him so much that a good session was ruined by the charging at the ending. The Reception sided with the conclusion of no payment at all. When the man had gone the reception explained that the man was a regular at World and spent a lot of money there over that time when all added up. The girl burst into tears and cried for like 20 minutes in the World locker room that is shared between the girls and boys. The conclusion is that there is a benefit in being a reular guest (stammgast). I am not sure if the same conclusion would be reached for Timmy Tourist.
At GT several German girls at dinner were explaining to me the difference in the nuance of gast, kunde, stammgast and stammkunde. There is something to be said for being a stammgast it would seem from what they said.
Vito Corleone
03-31-09, 03:31
YMMV. Lena does not DFK EL. She usually LFK'ed me. And her lips are all over Don Vito! ;-)) Oh well. With a different girl it could be the other way around. You never know.
The first time I sessioned with Lena she did not DFK, only LFK. I sessioned with her again a couple of hrs later & we just started to "click." DFK & a great GFE session. No, I did not pay extra & I never will. Maybe she only DFK's with her regulars.
M P Lurker
03-31-09, 05:44
So, please do a favour to those who follow in your footsteps in Palace: Do NOT accept paying extra for standard services. Do NOT forget that the vast majority of girls in Palace provide standard services for a standard fee. And that includes the most beautiful of them and the ones with the highest skills. Trust me on this one.
Its much better to be with girls who really like kissing and DATY and who not think of charging extra for it. After all its much easier work for them than BJ assuming guy doesn't have awful breath.
Paying for DATY doesn't make any sense as it uses up time anyway. Some girls I find don't want to do DATY too long because they don't want to orgasm. Others will happily take DATY for very long periods and really like it more than anything else.
Finally got the opportunity to visit the Palace in Frankfurt. Wow, what a great place.
Palace by name and Palace by nature. What a great two days and no sleeping pill needed to sleep on the flight home.
Thanks for the great report and profile of the action over a weekend. You had the reception I am dreaming of, hitting several ladies that are on my to do list. I'm very jealous...
Let me explain I can go either way on DFK. Some girls I like to, others well, the image of ten other guys spooging in their mouths before my session make DFK less than appealing, Also, if I am in a week long mongering campaign, there are health concerns with tounge wrestling with 20-30 odd different women. So I'm not particularly disappointed if a girl doesn't want to DFK.
Cheers,
ELI never kiss hookers. After Blowjob you cum and [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) and wash, so risk is quite low/minimal if skin of penis is ok. It is hard to wash mouth with same punctuality after every kiss. Always be carefull with kissing *****s. And touching your eye after touching *****s pussy might be bad. Some STD's might reach you that way too.
*****s mean to me easy 0% stress sex. No thinking of companion at all, just fuck'them like you want, give money and move on to the next one. They do it for money and money it is what I give them, nothing else. Of course they are human beings, so no violent behaviour is accepted. But I just don't think them at all when I fuck them. Many people have different ways of enjoying *****s, I replace booze and drugs with *****s and spend "loving time" with my girlfriends.
I have to admit that there are many quite weird people in these clubs, like living out of the reality. Many are playing this "Gigolo role play" that 300lbs fatty guy thinks that he is conquering all these ladies, because they ask you to fuck like groupies ask sex for rockband singer. Well it is ok for me of course, but it is just hard to understand why they can't live with the situation they have, what's so bad about it?
I'm lazy, ***** is very good choice after hard week of work. Just tell her to do what you like and all you have to give is money. *****, what a great innovation!
Swedish Jan
03-31-09, 19:28
Hi one and all. I'm one of the "lurkers". Just reading all the fantastic hints and rule-of-thumbs for a visit to FFK: s in general and Palace specifically. Now, however, I've finally done it. I've been there!
After reading all suggestions from all you experienced mongers, I can just say that most of it went out some window or another as I arrived. What a lineup! My date of visit was at Saturday 14th of March and there was som sort of commotion at "the Messe".
Now to start with, I've read quite a lot about the showers of Palace, specifically the lack of hot water and also the fixed time of 5. 8 seconds the water is streaming. It's all true. One exception though: The first one on your right at the dressing room showers have two problems. First the water seems to be hotter than the others, especially if you're alone in the room. Secondly, if pushed properly will get stuck for some minute or mote of continously showering before stopping.
Well, I've got to say, being from Sweden, that a visit to a FKK is something special. In Sweden buying sex is prohibited by law (not selling though! ). There where lots and lots of girls and also lots and lots of guests this evening. Here I also have to state a little problem I have: Me and names don't get together that well. The just seem to evaporate when I'm looking the other way. Sorry for that!
I arrived at Palace about 5pm and spent an hour or so studying girls and tried to check the reaction of the customers after session and all that. There just where too many to get a good feeling this evening. Now, I was approached by this nice young lady (Noname) which was from Brasil. Looks where 7-8, performance only 3 as her BBBJ the following sex was more the performance of a robot than a hot lady from Brasil. She let me perform DATY, and it was my first experience in a FKK so I was not in the extended mood session anyway.
Then, after some dinner (quite good food actually! ), a bit of a sauna and some movie, my prowess returned. I was attacked by this Turkish girl of Noname (I'm truly sorry! ) Looks about 7, truly a good DFK girl (in kino) but no real effort made in private.
Now, as you all can understand, I started to be a bit worried. 2 of 2 girls had done their jobs, none of them trying any real upsell, both completely agreed to make a GFE-performance and limited to 50€. But. No true efforts involved. So, some more orange juice, more food, relaxing and movie. Then it happened!
This petit little girl from Thailand, name of Dee-Dee (or was it Bee-bee) (Yes, I consider that as a rememberd name. Eureka! ) looked me up before I was ready, sitting in the movia area. She was nice and relaxed (I can't really stand those pushy girls) and we talked for a good while. We kissed for a good time and one thing led to another so she started to give me a really good BBBJ in the cinema. I knew I'd just commited but it was just fine with me. After a while we went to another room and while waiting in lone for one, lots of good DFK on the couch. In to the room we went and she gave me a really good GFE with exelent DFK and BBBJ and a really tasty DATY. After a good while whe gave me an intense RCG and I just couldn't help myself but came for the third time that evening. Looks 7-8 (if you happens to like Thai girls), performance aprox. 9. Absolutely a repeater.
After that last session I'd had enough for one evening. I'm not used to all this and decided to break leave for the hotel. It was a long day with traveling down from Sweden (quite early start too) and my last session had been really, really good. I did return the following week and I'll put that down in another report.
Take care and thanks for all good suggestions in this forum
Swedish Jan
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The first time I sessioned with Lena she did not DFK, only LFK. I sessioned with her again a couple of hrs later & we just started to "click." DFK & a great GFE session. No, I did not pay extra & I never will. Maybe she only DFK's with her regulars.
Repeating with your favorite girls is very rewarding if you want to ensure GFE sessions. That is the key to great service IMHO. That and extended sessions (if the experience is worth it). Both you and her know that you are comfortable with each other. She gets steady cash flow. You get great service. It's a winner.
When I visit a FKK my strategy is normally repeats with 2- 3 ATFs + 1- 2 brand new. That is the mix that usually works best for me.
Ekliges Lauern
03-31-09, 22:57
I have to admit that there are many quite weird people in these clubs, like living out of the reality. Many are playing this "Gigolo role play" that 300lbs fatty guy thinks that he is conquering all these ladies, because they ask you to fuck like groupies ask sex for rockband singer. Well it is ok for me of course, but it is just hard to understand why they can't live with the situation they have, what's so bad about it?
Yep, that would be me, the 300lb fatty (isn't that redundant) into the "gigolo role play".
Seriously, I go to clubs for good sex with attractive women at a reasonable price, and without complications. I'm not seeing how you are any different from those you disparage.
Some guys go to the clubs for a girl friend fantasy. For others, it is more about the sex. Neither is better that the other.
And by the way, one should never refer to women as *****s, even if they are.
Repeating with your favorite girls is very rewarding if you want to ensure GFE sessions. That is the key to great service IMHO. That and extended sessions (if the experience is worth it). Both you and her know that you are comfortable with each other. She gets steady cash flow. You get great service. It's a winner.
When I visit a FKK my strategy is normally repeats with 2- 3 ATFs + 1- 2 brand new. That is the mix that usually works best for me.
..and what your really doing is expanding on the basic technique of establishing a rapport with the lady. No one expects you to be 'best buds' for life when it's over, but you each get what you want from the other and let's face it, the better your rapport, (ability to relate to someone), usually the more eager you are to please them, or at least you find it more difficult to rip them off. (Sounds a little like the "Stockholm Syndrome")
My problem is that I will only be there one week. Split between 2 clubs, maybe three days each. (Yes, If I find one club to be 'better' than the other I will adapt) Plus I can not let on that I am a 'short termer'. It's a tough job, but somebody's gotta do it!
I never kiss hookers. After Blowjob you cum and [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) and wash, so risk is quite low/minimal if skin of penis is ok. It is hard to wash mouth with same punctuality after every kiss.
The language may be a little too strong for my taste, but after all the fuss I made earlier about wanting DFK, now I find that I cannot argue with the reasoning behind not seeking DFK, particularly in an environment like a FKK where the ladies may have less than ideal amounts of time between sessions for proper hygiene.
Of course they are human beings, so no violent behaviour is acceptedSame reason why I still refer to them as Ladies, until proven otherwise.
I have to admit that there are many quite weird people in these clubs, like living out of the reality. I once read that FKK's were referred to "Disneyland for Men'. I have no problem with that. A little fantasy is a good thing, I think. Reality sucks enough, why deny a little pleasure, now and then?
I have to admit that there are many quite weird people in these clubs, like living out of the reality. Many are playing this "Gigolo role play" that 300lbs fatty guy thinks that he is conquering all these ladies, because they ask you to fuck like groupies ask sex for rockband singer. Well it is ok for me of course Good for you to be so open minded when a 300 lb guy asks you to fuck like a groupie and it is ok for you. Not that there is anything wrong with that
Seize The Day
04-02-09, 15:38
Hi, guys or mongsters,
Welcome to Frankfurt, I am a student live and fuck in this wonderful city. Until my girlfriend or my daughter go to this industry, I totally agree with legal prostitute. It helps each part of both participants if they make appropriate process.
For those "workmates" (we work together to make money distribution more even) who will come soon, is there any kind man, like Mr. Londonbookcase, who can help me bring one shoes and one jeans I ordered in Ebay.com? I know this is too selfish, but maybe I can work as a guider for you when you arrive to show my deep thankfulness to your guest.
My email address is: [Email address deleted by Admin]
Best,
Frankfurter
PS: Special greetings to Mr. Myrmidon and Mr. Oozman.
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Vito Corleone
04-02-09, 21:34
Hi, guys or mongsters,
Welcome to Frankfurt, I am a student live and fuck in this wonderful city. Until my girlfriend or my daughter go to this industry, I totally agree with legal prostitute. It helps each part of both participants if they make appropriate process.
For those "workmates" (we work together to make money distribution more even) who will come soon, is there any kind man, like Mr. Londonbookcase, who can help me bring one shoes and one jeans I ordered in Ebay.com? I know this is too selfish, but maybe I can work as a guider for you when you arrive to show my deep thankfulness to your guest.
My email address is: [Email address deleted by Admin]
Best,
Frankfurter
PS: Special greetings to Mr. Myrmidon and Mr. Oozman.
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This is one of the best posts I've read in a long time.
Basketcase
04-02-09, 21:50
For those "workmates" (we work together to make money distribution more even) who will come soon, is there any kind man, like Mr. Londonbookcase, who can help me bring one shoes and one jeans I ordered in Ebay.com? I know this is too selfish, but maybe I can work as a guider for you when you arrive to show my deep thankfulness to your guest.
Best,
Frankfurter
Dear Seize The Day,
Working together to make money distribution more even sounds like an objective of the government. This derives from a theorem of anti competition where the individuals working together for the greater good provides a better result than competing with each other since it destroys value and the ability for each to claim a piece of the action if each were helping the others.
If your reference to "Mr. Londonbookcase" is to "Basketcase" then I am at a loss as to your request to help you bring one shoe and one jeans that you ordered off ebay.com. Why? Is your shoes and jeans in your luggage taking you over your air carrier's weight allowance? I usually do not carry much on my trips - usually a weekend bag that weighs in total 3 kilograms so I have spare capacity for that sort of stuff if need be. I like to travel light as I am only doing short trips of a couple of days here and there. Also Germany is a first world country so you can pick up stuff that you need if caught short. The main thing for me is that I bring myself to the club.
Thank you very much for your offer of being a guider for us when in Frankfurt. I think I should be fine. I have a map and a GPS navigation system that does road and street level. Further if I do really get stuck I have google maps on my phone that pinpoints me pretty accurately. I mean its knows when I am in Golden Time, World and Oase or in my hotel in any of Bruggen, Friedrichsdorf or Frankfurt. Please, I do appreciate the offer of being a guide.
All the best,
Hi, guys or mongsters,
Best, Frankfurter
PS: Special greetings to Mr. Myrmidon and Mr. Oozman.
Thank you kind sir for the inclusion in your invitation. But like Mr Basketcase, I must decline, respectfully. This is my first solo trip to the continent and like Mr. Basketcase, I wish to travel light. After all, how many clothes do you need to pack for a week when you expect to spend most of your time either getting into or out of a bath robe / towel? Further, I have been furnished with complete directions for both Oase and Palace. Additionally, I have gleaned several fine restaurant names from the files and located them on a map near my hotel, (staying near the Hauptbahnhof has so many advantages). I have also studied the U/S-bahn systems and enjoy an adventure,(hence why I am coming to Frankfurt and it's FKK's).
So, again I thank you for the offer, but I decline.
Good Luck, Bon Chance and Viel Gluck!
Dandriller
04-03-09, 03:50
The Thai girls vary. I stay away from the tall pushy one.
I remember the bolt-ons but not the teeth. Probably named Kim or Joy.
Some of them are a bit shy. Hence lack of being pushy with you. You should approach them if you like them.
Bee with large back tatoo is clearly the best of the Thai girls. Very fun girl like a girlfriend and great performance. Some of the others performed very well as they liked me and chemistry was good.
Some of them are scared of guys with big fat dicks. Perhaps her mouth was too small to take your whole salami.
You didn't say how much time you spent with the girl. Seems strange she was asking for 100 unless she was servicing you more than 30 mins. I haven't found any of them discussing the price with me but they know I am experienced and fair.Mp Lover,
thanks for the comments.
About my dick being too big, while it is larger than average, it is certainly not huge.
It is possible though that it was on her limit of being too much to handle.
I only spent 30 minutes with her and most of that time was spent with my tongue in her pussy, but should I include the time we were DFK on the couch before we went to the room?
I really got the impression that she wanted me to spend an hour with her and hence get 100 euro that would make it one less punter she would have to fuck that day.
I have had a lot of experiences with Thai girls both in P4P and real G/F both in Thailand and the UK and Australia, and have never come across one that behaved like this.
Perhaps she was new and was not enjoying doing so many different men, and therefore wanted to maximize the time of each session.
Seize The Day
04-03-09, 16:28
Dear Mr. Londonbasketcase and Mr. Myrmidon,
Sorry to let your read my unerotic & unkowlodgebale "report". I live in the Catholic student dormitory (open to every student) just near Palace FKK, and one American student roommate promised me to let his brother help me ship that jeans and shoes I ordered on Ebay, because the Ebay seller require 40 bucks for shipping a jeans to Germany and totally free for USA inland shipping. But now, his brother has some reason that he could not help me. That's why I wrote the first "report". I have thought about paying you some money, but I was afraid that money will destroy the pleasant and total unselfish mutual helping ambiance of this forum, let alone the valuable fraternity. Then, I proposed working as a "local", that's totally unnecessary if you have read those ancestor's former reports. Anyway, I just wanted to show my thankfulness.
Because in my thought, the majority of the service girls in FKK have some financial problem, in German, we say they need some wallet money. The reason can be various, maybe they need the money to buy medicine for their lovers, maybe they need the money for living, maybe they want to set up an own company. And obviously, some people can help them realize their dream or desire, and this industry is completely simple and environment protecting, and the income redistribution or welfare improvement aftermath is even better than any government can design. Why Mr. Obama doesn't think about this? You can do charity things to poor people, but giving them the chance to earn money is much efficient and effective. Nobody can work in this industry more than, let's be optimistic, 20 years. That's it. If we are single, we visit FKK with some self-control, we are actually helping east Europe development, this is the "Nature Driven Marshell Plan", we didn't hurt anybody, they get a lot money to reinvest in their home town or just home. Let's do it harder!
If there is a God, I would say he is fair and thoughtful, he has designed this mechanism, you irresistibly have sex desire and you release it on others, otherwise you die out. On the other hand, women are physically weak than men, but they don't have strong sex desire; they cannot work hard as Mr. Mike Tyson, but every women has some thing that can make one thousand Tyson kneel down, why should we constrain them not to use it?
Thanks again for your time and help. Your comments and treatments are yardsticks for my future life, especially how you treated others when you are misunderstood by others (e. G. How basket case treated that questioning guy). Unselfishly sharing your knowledge and resource is another thing I like to show my deep respect. In this respect, I would like to say that you are the true Professor, every word from you is useful, every report help us to reach the bliss as fast as possible, it's a pity you cannot get a tenure for your hard and excellent working.
Sorry, I don't have the right to send message to you, so if the editor was dozing, please use the following address to contact me: Daslebenistkurz (at)googlemail.com
Regards,
Zhanshan
PS: Another Sorry to Mr. Basketcase about my shameful vocabulary.
Vito Corleone
04-03-09, 21:51
Sorry to let your read my unerotic & unkowlodgebale "report". I live in the Catholic student dormitory (open to every student) just near Palace FKK, and one American student roommate promised me to let his brother help me ship that jeans and shoes I ordered on Ebay, because the Ebay seller require 40 bucks for shipping a jeans to Germany and totally free for USA inland shipping. But now, his brother has some reason that he could not help me. That's why I wrote the first "report". I have thought about paying you some money, but I was afraid that money will destroy the pleasant and total unselfish mutual helping ambiance of this forum, let alone the valuable fraternity. Then, I proposed working as a "local", that's totally unnecessary if you have read those ancestor's former reports. Anyway, I just wanted to show my thankfulness.
Regards,
Zhanshan
I need a guide. I need you to research your campus & find some hot looking students that might need some help with their tuition. Find the best looking babes & introduce them to me & I will think about your ebay items.
I need a guide. I need you to research your campus & find some hot looking students that might need some help with their tuition. Find the best looking babes & introduce them to me & I will think about your ebay items.
Now, you are taking advantage of him. Next you will be helping him with his tuition. :)
Basketcase
04-04-09, 09:29
Zhanshan
I live in the Catholic student dormitory (open to every student) just near Palace FKK, and one American student roommate promised me to let his brother help me ship that jeans and shoes I ordered on Ebay, because the Ebay seller require 40 bucks for shipping a jeans to Germany and totally free for USA inland shipping. But now, his brother has some reason that he could not help me.
I see. You were let down by the American student's brother. These things happen. You just have got to have back up plans or be willing to write off the pieces. I take it that the ebay items are still for sale or reserved for you?
Knowing more on the situation I am sorry that I am not in a position to act as a smuggler or mule for your contraband. Many including myself do not hail from that part of the world so logistically it is not going to work.
I understand that our dear and learned colleague Vito Corleone has expressed his willingness to assist in your endeavour. I am sure a favour in return is appreciated.
Have you been to Palace yet? You seem to live so close to what some men have called heaven upon Earth or Men's Disneyland.
I guess if you live so close by and know that it is there that you do not go very often or if do not feel you need to go as its always there. I mean Londoners do not go out of their way to visit Buckingham Palace or the Palace at Westminster or may not have ever been to visit there since its there and always there.
Thanks again for your time and help. Your comments and treatments are yardsticks for my future life, especially how you treated others when you are misunderstood by others (e. G. How basket case treated that questioning guy). Unselfishly sharing your knowledge and resource is another thing I like to show my deep respect. In this respect, I would like to say that you are the true Professor, every word from you is useful, every report help us to reach the bliss as fast as possible, it's a pity you cannot get a tenure for your hard and excellent working.
Zhanshan, thank you for your kind words. They are appreciated.
I am not sure that I am a Professor. There are people far more experienced than I am this hobby. I suppose the difference for me is that I have more opportunity to do it whereas some people have familial or other destinational or spatial commitments that keep them away.
PS: Another Sorry to Mr. Basketcase about my shameful vocabulary.
Do not worry. I have been criticised myself by writers here for not writing English here when so much non English is written by others so we are glad that you have taken the time and inclination to post and give your views.
Remember: It is only a game. It is meant to be fun.
Sometimes I forget that and visit too much and become over exposed. A kindly Dutch Ijsberen at Golden Time who I see just about every time I am in Golden Time who I struck up conversation with who said he read but did not write on the forums reminded me as others have that one should come to the club to enjoy the girls. Stop and give it a break if that enjoyment is not there.
Ekliges Lauern
04-04-09, 10:34
Have you been to Palace yet? You seem to live so close to what some men have called heaven upon Earth or Men's Disneyland.
I guess if you live so close by and know that it is there that you do not go very often or if do not feel you need to go as its always there. I mean Londoners do not go out of their way to visit Buckingham Palace or the Palace at Westminster or may not have ever been to visit there since its there and always there.
Do Buckingham Palace and Westminster have Kinos where you can get a toe-curlingly good BJ for 50 Euro? If so, perhaps I have misjudged the British monarchy.
** This is part of a multi-report series on my 10-day trip to Germany / FKK's. **
The main report is here: http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=866231&postcount=3810
Stayed at Hotel Sophien (Sophienstrasse 36, 60487 Frankfurt). Very basic hotel EUR 60 incl. breakfast. 10 minutes by car to Palace. If Palace is your primary destination (which I wouldn't recommend), the hotel right next to Palace seems to be a better choice, although I don't remember the name.
My flight landed at 1030am, I was in Palace at 1:30pm.
~15 girls. They were all 7-9; almost all full-figured (i.e. not petite), just the way I like them.
Palace is a nice place. Well appointed. As previously observed on the forum, the whole setup is similar to the Rio termas. One thing I liked about this place was that the music is soft and mellow, at least during the day. If you're there to relax (other than fuck, of course) its tough to do with loud music blaring in your ears.
Charges are EUR 75 entrance, which btw is good for the whole day. If you're stepping out, ask them what you'll need to come back - they gave me a ticket that can be used to come back in. BBBJ + sex is additional EUR 50. CIM, COB and anal is another EUR 50 extra, each. All prices clearly posted in the rooms (but not at the front desk).
As I was walking around, checking out the place, I was approached by Anna, who claims to be from Italy. She is ~5'3", a little older (maybe early-mid thirties), but has a nice firm body and saggy, but good sized, tits. She asked whether we could sit down for a few minutes. I was fresh from sex prison USA and my resistance level was pretty low. Within 30 seconds of sitting down, she was giving me a public BBBJ and 2 minutes later we were in the room going at it. She was pretty decent in the sack, made the appropriate noises, offered to do different positions. Asked once if I wanted to CIM or do anal. When I answered no, she didn't persist. Score: face, body, attitude, service: 6, 7, 8, 8
After Anna, I spent half an hour in the steam room and shower. As I was resuming my tour of the place, I was approached by Ava (Eva?). Younger and better built than Anna (bigger, firmer tits and taller). Making out for about a minute, standing up in the hallway, while fondling her ass was all it took to get me back into a room. Nice attitude as well, but her technique was slightly worse (actually, I think, not well suited to me); she kept sucking a bit too hard on the head. Halfway thru the session, I realized that I wasn't going to cum, since I'm just not built to go back-to-back that quickly. So I enjoyed the blowjob. She tried hard to get me to cum (in mouth, no doubt), but it wasn't gonna happen. Score: face, body, attitude, service: 8, 8, 7, 6
Left palace at about 1600h, planned out my next few days, caught up on sleep a little bit, had dinner at a place called Adolf Wagner (Schweizerstrasse 71, 60594 Frankfurt/M; 069-612565; authentic frankfurt food and the place has a great vibe, worth checking out) and returned to Palace around 2200 hrs. There were, maybe, 40 girls and the boy girl ratio looked not too bad. But around 2230h, it took a definite turn for the worse, when a bunch of guys (including what looked like a football team) walked in. The whole dynamics of the place was very different during the peak time (i.e. at night). Girls' attitude had become markedly worse and they were not willing to spend absolutely any time making out, a big negative, as there is no opportunity for checking out the goods before paying. Even Anna and Ava from the afternoon were giving me the cold shoulder.
I spent about 2 minutes with Yana, a tall, full-figured, half persian / half german, "getting to know" each other and when I turned her down, she left cursing that all I wanted was a groping freebie. Chances of having a good experience with that one are pretty remote. After about an hour and a half, my other head started panicking with the prospect of not seeing any action for the night and I made a bad decision. Had a session with Andrea from Hungary, even though my thinking head was telling me not to do it. It ended in about 5 minutes - a classic bait and switch. She wouldn't do dfk, completely lost interest when I made it clear that I only wanted an EUR 50 service. May be you get decent service if you ARE willing to spend EUR 100? Also, I'd think your chances would be better if you're a regular (at least you know who the sharks are). Would welcome the thoughts of long-timers. Receptionist never bothered asking me, but when I told her that I had a bad experience, the only response she had was "ok". She didn't even care to know who the girl was. The afternoon receptionist, by the way, asked if I had a good time and looked like would have done something, if I had not. Overall, quality of experience was remarkably different between afternoon and night visits. I will not visit Palace again during the peak hours.
Swedish Jan
04-05-09, 07:57
This is my report of the second day at Palace (first report: http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=864796&postcount=4043)
Being the second time in Palace I started to feel a bit more confident arriwing at the entrance at about 5.30pm. Now, this was the 18th of march (in the iddel of the week) and the whole place was diferent. Not a bad lineup at all but still quite empty compared to last saturday.
I took a good time checking out the girls but that didn't help a lot this evening. I was approached by a very cute girl, half German half Libanese, with a very good DFK-ing (I still have this problem with names...). We talked for a while and she really got me going out in the central room with DFK and a partial HJ. In the room she cooled down quite a bit compared to in public but a fair work. She gave me a good BBBJ for a while but got impatient as I started to enjoy it and she wanted me to cum ASAP. I got quite a good DATY with her and she didn't try to upsell at all. We fucked around in a couple of different positions and I came taking her from behind. She got her 50€ and that was it. Looks about 8 with a very nice handful of boobs. Performance was only 3-4 as she was in such a hurry.
So, even testing out the girls a bit before committing don't give the whole picture.
After a bit to eat and some sauna and a movie session, a very small and petit Thai girl (Noname but friend to Dee-Dee) came to my attention. She had small breast and was a bit too much dressed IMHO, but suck things can be fixed. Now, I've had this wish to tace a Thai girl in the ass and we talked about this a while and she sized me up quite thouroughly before deciding. I promised to take it easy on here and we went into a room.
She gave quite a good DFK, her BBBJ was a bit too soft but she sucked them balls soooo nice. She really got my engine going as we continued with a 69. Then, putting on the rubber, she lay down and greesed up her ass with a finger and lots of lubrication. What a sight! I slowly penetrated her anus and she had to put in quite a lot of lube and I had become as hard and horny as I can get. Once we had it all oiled up she took my full shaft all the way in and really gave good account of herself. We fucked like this for a good while in different positions (her on back, side and on all 4) and we both stimulated her pussy meanwhile. I had an incling of the time running out and I let myself come deep inside her ass. She DFKed me really good afterwars too but never raised any complains about going over the allotted half hour. It was a really sweet girl. Looks about 7 (if you like Thai), performance 7-8, good DFK and BBBJ. Really good anal session. A repeater! She took her 50€ and the extra of 100€ for the anal part as agreed upon.
Soo, by this time I was quite tired and ha thoughts of returning to my hotel. But I wanted to see if I could raise mote energy so I took a good long sauna session, drank a lot of orange juice and water and generally just took it easy. I was approached by quite a lot of girls including a EE copule of girls that I'm sorry I didn't have the energy for at that time. They gave me good arguments for coming with them and really tried to meka me cum out in the open, but I told them I didn't want to committ right then and it was ok. They still played a lot with me. They would have been fun to session with I think. They where both dark girls, one of them a bit shorter but both slim.
After some dessert from the kitchen I found Dee-Dee again. She came and sat in my lap and gave me her superb DFK and I was lost. We found a good room and started up with a very good BBBJ while I was standing om the floor. I don't know what she does with her mouth but she sucks them balls so very good. She took her time and we went over to a 69 position on the bed. She was a bit dry to start with but it got better and better. Whe took my shaft quite deep but as I licked her she stopped after a while and she came in a fantastic orgasm with juices flowing down my face. She tasted really good! We continued with sex in different positions including RCG and several others and it all turned out to quite an extended session. When I finally came we must have passed the full hour. She took her tie and we lay in each others arms for quite a while just kissing and talking. She seemed a bit suprised as I was paying her a 100€ (she asked for 50!) after all that time. She was worth it. Best session I've ever experienced.
With that last session in my mind I decided to leave for my hotell. And with it ended my second, and for this trip, last visit in Palace. As a summery I can say that the lineups was good both on Saturday and in the midde of the week but not comparable in numbers, the upsell was minimum, I made som bad choices and I made some really good too. Coming from Sweden this is Paradise. I'll be back but it'll probably take a while as I'm only down in Frankfurt once in a while. The food was quite good and the showers going from cold to acceptable.
Take care all of you
Jan
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Ekliges Lauern
04-05-09, 12:01
i’m visiting palace for the last time. not because i’m upset with the place. i quite like it. because of my business, there is the distinct possibility i could run into someone i know walking the streets of industriehof. it’s gotten uncomfortable trying to scan the people at the u-bahn stop from 100m away for faces i know. i really shouldn’t go there for professional reason. thus i have resolved to swear off palace for good. but not before a farewell visit to palace in saturday night.
the weather was brilliant on saturday, so i expected a reduced crowd. got to palace about 4:30pm. very mellow vibe. probably only about 15-20 girls. only 1 boner killer, an older kind of homely polish woman. some initial approaches which i am able to politely rebuff. after yesterday’s encounter with a romanian [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) squad at world, i’m enjoying a much more relaxed, mellow, vibe. even though the line-up was light, i was liking the diversity. and not a romanian in sight.
i saw about 5 girls i had sessioned with in the past and had good experiences. i noticed czech lina on the prowl. i penciled her in as my closer as the combination of her looks and super blowjob would make a fitting finale. curiously, i noticed as she prowled the room, she avoided making any eye contact with me.
after about 90 minutes, turkish coco approaches me. we chat for a bit. she tells me she has been in germany from a young age and is from koeln (aren’t they all?). she asks if i have ever been to turkey. no i reply, but point out my love of turkish food. she licks her lips and says, “doener macht schoener.” my chemistry meter is getting serious mixed signals. i’m developing a nice rapport, but something inside me is screaming shark. well, little el decides he likes coco, and the first session is the one to take risks with. i ask is she is game for a session in the kino. she is.
thinks start getting weird from the start. first, she doesn’t want to sit in my corner up top. then she tries to get me to go to the room without at least initiating a bj. i stand my ground. eventually, she settles into a pretty good bj. she wants to be fingered while blowing me. she gets quite wet quite quickly. since she is responding, and things are looking up, i take her off to the room. more weirdness ensues. first, she wants to know if i want to stay for an hour. i decline and say let’s start with half an hour and see how it goes. after some more blasen, i have her get on top of me in 69 position. when i start licking her, she really starts going to town with the bj. deep, wet and soft. she understands pacing as she builds up the speed. i’m under no illusion that i’m the world’s greatest lover, but she really seems into the daty. she matches my speed and pace. if i lick her lightly, she blows me lightly. if i suck deeply on her clit, she sucks me deeply and strongly. kind of an interesting puppet game as i direct her actions by how i lick and suck her. after a while, i tell her i’d like to fuck her. she tells me she doesn’t want to as she is really enjoying this. i decide to go with the flow, as i am quite enjoying it as well. anyway, i finish in her mouth. as she gets off me, she lets my seed dribble out of her mouth onto her chin. she then says, “tasty, just like garlic sauce.” she adds, “you know that is extra, right?” worth the 100e just for the visuals and the laugh.
ok serious mixed feelings on this. her attitude left much to be desired. but the 69 and finish was top notch. the “clit puppet” action was unique and very hot. if i were to come back, i might repeat with her under the right circumstances, but probably not as i expect the girls to do what i want, when i want it, where i want it. i'm paying them after all.
between sessions, lena was still avoiding any eye contact with me. i should probably explain. for years she approached me and i always turned her down. then, after a couple of other mongers told me they had great sessions with her, i took the plunge. very enjoyable session. i didn’t repeat, not because i didn’t want to, just timing was never right. she is a closer, and when i was looking for a closer, she was never around.
a few months back, i steered bc to lena, thinking he would like her. he was shot down as she made clear she would not go with him unless her committed to a 3-some or enhanced compensation.
the russian girls, julia and vanessa are there. they are also talking to a third russian girl who i don’t know but am thinking of trying. i plant myself in the kino to relax. coco comes in and tries to interest me in a 3-some with her and a hard looking dark haired german girl with lots of tats. not interested. julia comes in, and quickly gets me all hot and bothered. she is one of my favorite kino blaslerin. anyway, since it is my final visit to palace, i am feeling like something special. i ask her if she has a freundin. she asks if i want a blond or brunette. egal, i reply, as long as she is nice. i assume she will bring in another russian girl. as luck would have it, she brings in the hard looking german girl. anyway, kind of a waste as i’m just not into her and she is nowhere near as skilled in the bj department as julia. during her turn, julia really goes to town. i’m fingering both julia and the german girl. julia is really getting quite wet, but the german girl is bone dry. when the time comes to award the ft bonus, it gets a bit weird.
i had gently ridiculed ortos for asserting that a woman had maneuvered his dick into an extra when he did not intend to award a bonus. my reasons is that if he can’t keep track of where his dick is pointing, well, i am less than sympathetic. well, i believe i owe him an apology. as i got close, julia asked if i would like to cum in mouth. i really can’t remember if she said her mouth or our mouths. anyway, you can guess what happened next. i was fully prepared to award the ft bonus to julia as she had done a nice job, but not the german as she was not particularly good. as the moment approached, julia was blowing me quite vigorously and deeply. when i exploded, after the first spurt, julia took me out of her mouth and planted my cock firmly in the german girl’s mouth. she also got out of my line of site so there could be no question i was coming in the german girl’s mouth as well. i had not intended to award them both the ft bonus, but as i thought about it, i really could not make an argument about it. 200e. ouch. ok, in fairness i intended to pay 150e. still, not happy about it.
i relax for a couple of hours, contemplating my last session. leona, a big dutch girl a sessioned with a couple of times a few years ago recognizes me and talks to me. she seemed happy i remembered her name after a couple of years. she gave a really nice deep vigorous bj as i remember. one time, she was blowing me so vigorously that her hair extensions came off. she also likes for you to finger her ass while blowing you. anyway, we talked about the messe that had just finished up. she said she didn’t like the crowd from this messe as they were mostly hippy people. i got a good laugh out of that.
i also had two thai girls approach me for a 3-some. they were tiny and super hot. here’s where it got weird. they claimed i had sessioned with them in the past. a few months ago, i did a 3-some with 2 thai girls, but i was pretty sure it was not them. i did a 3-some with pom and cindy. the lead girl had bigger tits and a different face than pom. the other girl could have been cindy, as i really didn’t focus on her as much. i tell them i am not ready, but promise to find them in an hour or so. i pencil them in as plan b in case i crash and burn with lena.
i have stalked lena and have figured out her man stalking pattern. when she enters the room, she makes a quick check of the kino. after she returns from a session, i sit at one of the tables by the kino so i can catch her quickly when she enters the room. sure enough, she enters, doesn’t make eye contact and heads right for the kino. i approach her. conversation goes something like:
el: wie geht’s?
lena: what?
el: <smiles>
lena: <turns to leave>
el: you don’t want to go with me?
lena: i went with you once. you were not pleased with me.
el: yes i was quite pleased with you. if you don’t want to go with me, that is fine.
lena: <turns and leaves>
pity, as i mentioned she is super hot and i did quite enjoy the session. it is a good thing i have a plan b.
tiny thai girls look super hot nude. the lead thai girl is wearing nothing but her shoes. most of the thai girls i have seen in the clubs are rather modest and at least wear the pussy hider skirts. the lead thai girl approaches and i let her know i am up for a 3-some with her friend. she goes and gets her friend who is showing after a session. we head into a room together. the immediately ask if i am going to pay them 100e each. i explain that i am now poor because of the finanzkrise, i am now poor and can only afford 50e. ok, how about 75e? no no. just 50e each. the girls are didi and nina, not the two girls i had sessioned with in the past, pom and cindy. interestingly enough, my resistance to the shakedown does not diminish the service in any why. super hot session. i lie on my back while one girl blows me and the other kisses me and then gets on top of me for daty. they swap places a couple of times. after a while i have nina ride me rcg while fingering her ass. didi was kissing me while i fingered her. i changed positions and girls i was fucking a couple of times. during each condom change, didi would blow me for a bit; she was quite good at it. when i was fucking didi mish, nina would have her hands on didi’s tits leaning forward to kiss me. they would also finger each other during sex, so that was quite hot. since they were both thai, tiny and hot, it was a little like a fantasy of fucking to sisters who are into each other. anyway, no matter how hot they were, i was not going to cum from fucking with a condom off. i asked didi to blow me to the end. i also told her i wanted to cum only in her mouth as i only had a total of 150e. didi did a magnificent job of finishing me while i liked nina’s pussy and looked into her eyes. we relaxed and they massaged me the remainder of my half hour. didi implored me to return tomorrow, telling me “i give you tip top blow job”.
i went to pay them and i had exactly 150e left. i had forgotten exactly how much i had left. a good end to my last palace visit. the visit was kind of a paradox. each session had its bad points, but also good points. funny about the complaints of persistent approaches as it was quite relaxed and nowhere near as frequent or intense as with the romanian [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) squad at world. a fitting finale to my palace visits as it was both quite spectacular (clit puppet action with coco, 3-somewiththai cuties) and somewhat bad as well (coco’s general bitchiness in the kino/room and the ft cock hijacking with the german girl). farewell palace ladies, despite what your detractors say, i will miss you.
i’m visiting palace for the last time.... thus i have resolved to swear off palace for good. but not before a farewell visit to palace in saturday night...
i had forgotten exactly how much i had left. a good end to my last palace visit. the visit was kind of a paradox. each session had its bad points, but also good points. funny about the complaints of persistent approaches as it was quite relaxed and nowhere near as frequent or intense as with the romanian [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) squad at world. a fitting finale to my palace visits as it was both quite spectacular (clit puppet action with coco, 3-somewiththai cuties) and somewhat bad as well (coco’s general bitchiness in the kino/room and the ft cock hijacking with the german girl). farewell palace ladies, despite what your detractors say, i will miss you.
excellent post sir. i found a lot of interesting info in both this post and your other post on the oase thread.
but i think this last paragraph is particularly interesting. you forgot exactly how much you had left. that means that for the time you were there you were completely immersed in the experience. and is that not what it is all about? a little fantasy time to forget the other mundane affairs? good on you. we have to step back sometimes, stop analyzing and comparing and not take it all so seriously, have fun and find the enjoyment in the moment. we, the individual, define what the experience was. if i say it was good for me, then it was good. it is what we say it is, and as long as we enjoy ourselves, who cares what others may think! thank you for the reminder. i only hope i can do the same on my pending visit.
M P Lurker
04-06-09, 03:50
After some dessert from the kitchen I found Dee-Dee again. She came and sat in my lap and gave me her superb DFK and I was lost. We found a good room and started up with a very good BBBJ while I was standing om the floor. I don't know what she does with her mouth but she sucks them balls so very good. She took her time and we went over to a 69 position on the bed. She was a bit dry to start with but it got better and better. Whe took my shaft quite deep but as I licked her she stopped after a while and she came in a fantastic orgasm with juices flowing down my face. She tasted really good! We continued with sex in different positions including RCG and several others and it all turned out to quite an extended session. When I finally came we must have passed the full hour. She took her tie and we lay in each others arms for quite a while just kissing and talking. She seemed a bit suprised as I was paying her a 100€ (she asked for 50!) after all that time. She was worth it. Best session I've ever experienced.
Didi(Deedee) seems to be a very fast learner. When she was quite new to Palace (recently) and getting not much business, she asked me to help train her up.
I explained the Brazialian style of kissing with very wide open mouth and giving the whole tongue (like Kimi for example). Also showed her that a BBBJ was better if she went really slow.
But I found her to be so good so quickly, that I was feeling that I might have been fooled into thinking she had not much experience.
Didi(Deedee) seems to be a very fast learner. When she was quite new to Palace (recently) and getting not much business, she asked me to help train her up.
I explained the Brazialian style of kissing with very wide open mouth and giving the whole tongue (like Kimi for example). Also showed her that a BBBJ was better if she went really slow.
But I found her to be so good so quickly, that I was feeling that I might have been fooled into thinking she had not much experience.
Thank you for training Didi so well. We need all the well-trained workers we can have. Hopefully though she will not follow the alledged lead of Kimi (Kimmi) who Ozzy Ozzman recently reported as now charging for DFK (03-19-2009).
Swedish Jan
04-06-09, 18:07
Didi (Deedee) seems to be a very fast learner. When she was quite new to Palace (recently) and getting not much business, she asked me to help train her up.
I explained the Brazialian style of kissing with very wide open mouth and giving the whole tongue (like Kimi for example). Also showed her that a BBBJ was better if she went really slow.
But I found her to be so good so quickly, that I was feeling that I might have been fooled into thinking she had not much experience.Well, if you're the one to "blame" I can only say you did a fantastic job of it. Both the BBBJ and the DFK. She took her time and was really great. If I remember it right she told me she was about 6 months old at Palace.
Jan
I love to kiss while having sex. But isn't Deep French Kissing (DFK) supposed to be included in the EUR 50 fee? I have read different reports on this at the Palace.
Is it officially included in the EUR 50, for instance written on some kind of menu at the club?
Even though I love kissing, I don't think it's worth paying double the amount for it.
What are your takes on this? Probably best to tell the girl straight away that you demand DFK to be included, or else no deal.
I love to kiss while having sex. But isn't Deep French Kissing (DFK) supposed to be included in the EUR 50 fee? I have read different reports on this at the Palace.
Is it officially included in the EUR 50, for instance written on some kind of menu at the club?
Even though I love kissing, I don't think it's worth paying double the amount for it.
What are your takes on this? Probably best to tell the girl straight away that you demand DFK to be included, or else no deal.
Judging by your last sentence, I would say you seem to have figured it out by yourself. Some girls will DFK, some won't. Definitely let your desire for DFK to be known to your potential session partners. If they tell you they don't kiss, show your disappointment and let them know you would definitely consider session with them if they did kiss. If a girl tells you to pay extra for kissing: Tell her to fuck off! She is a definite shark/rip-off. Don't waste your time or money.
Know this: Over the past couple of years, DFK at Palace has become harder to find as an automatic part of the session. It absolutely does exist amongst many girls there, but in my experience you are more likely to find girls who avoid DFK at both Palace and Artemis. You are probably better off going to Oase or World, where DFK is absolutely the norm and quite prevelant amongst the population of working girls...
Ortos
Ekliges Lauern
04-07-09, 21:44
Judging by your last sentence, I would say you seem to have figured it out by yourself. Some girls will DFK, some won't. Definitely let your desire for DFK to be known to your potential session partners. If they tell you they don't kiss, show your disappointment and let them know you would definitely consider session with them if they did kiss. If a girl tells you to pay extra for kissing: Tell her to fuck off! She is a definite shark/rip-off. Don't waste your time or money.
Know this: Over the past couple of years, DFK at Palace has become harder to find as an automatic part of the session. It absolutely does exist amongst many girls there, but in my experience you are more likely to find girls who avoid DFK at both Palace and Artemis. You are probably better off going to Oase or World, where DFK is absolutely the norm and quite prevelant amongst the population of working girls...
Ortos
My only quibble is I don't condone telling a woman to "fuck off" no matter what the circumstances. A simple "thanks, I'm not interested" will get the same message across that she lost business by trying to scam you. Also, other women will notice you behaving aggressively and will not like it. In their eyes, doesn't matter whether you are right or wrong, they will simply think you are a jerk. This is not to say you should not refuse to pay if a woman tries to extract enhanced compensation following a session, time banditry, false extras, etc. It can be done without being ruse.
My only quibble is I don't condone telling a woman to "fuck off" no matter what the circumstances. A simple "thanks, I'm not interested" will get the same message across that she lost business by trying to scam you. Also, other women will notice you behaving aggressively and will not like it. In their eyes, doesn't matter whether you are right or wrong, they will simply think you are a jerk. This is not to say you should not refuse to pay if a woman tries to extract enhanced compensation following a session, time banditry, false extras, etc. It can be done without being ruse.
I don`t agree, Ortos is right by saying fuck off, you send a signal to the girls : you cannot scam me, and the other girls see : here is a man with charachter who can`t be fooled.
M P Lurker
04-08-09, 05:49
Know this: Over the past couple of years, DFK at Palace has become harder to find as an automatic part of the session. It absolutely does exist amongst many girls there, but in my experience you are more likely to find girls who avoid DFK at both Palace and Artemis. You are probably better off going to Oase or World, where DFK is absolutely the norm and quite prevelant amongst the population of working girls...
Ortos
Plenty of reports have been posted naming girls who will normally DFK well without any hassles. So its good to have a list of reliable girls, so that when you meet one of them, you can give her immediate consideration if she meets your spec.
I know I have named quite a few of the very good relaible performers. Most of those are in the slim class because thats what I go for.
e.g. Bee, Kimmi (Brazil), Daniella, Deedee, Nicholetta, etc.
YMMV but these are very relaible girls I think. and plenty of others have been named by other guys whose spec is a bigger build of girl.
My only quibble is I don't condone telling a woman to "fuck off" no matter what the circumstances. A simple "thanks, I'm not interested" will get the same message across that she lost business by trying to scam you. Also, other women will notice you behaving aggressively and will not like it. In their eyes, doesn't matter whether you are right or wrong, they will simply think you are a jerk. This is not to say you should not refuse to pay if a woman tries to extract enhanced compensation following a session, time banditry, false extras, etc. It can be done without being ruse.
It absolutely depends on how (i.e. in what manner and with what tone inflection) you say "fuck off." Clearly one should not be overly rude or agressive, but if you smile at them, or just waive your hand and say "Fuck off" like you would say: "Go fly a kite!" or "Get out of town" etc., then it is not that big a deal. If they are Turkish or Bulgarian, it is always nice to establish that you know the score by saying: "Ah sic teer, curva!" always with a smile on your face and a wink in your eye...Get it?
Ortos
Chico Charlie 1
04-08-09, 06:21
Dear fellow mongers,
I have had a very bitter experience at palace except for one saving grace in the name of BEE, a thai goddess with a full back tattoo. I had RTFF earlier so I new that she would be among the better providers at Palace. I also thank some fellow senior members whe recommended some names. But these providers were unavailable.
After that it was all downhill. Sharks every where. Girls having attitudes, refusing services probably because I am Indian origin. Met some Romanians and Russians who wanted 150 for a 30 mins. Crazy stuff everywhere. Not a genuine service oriented FKK.
The showers are wierd as well. every minute they would switch off on their own. I was not sure whether to clean myself or hold the knob of the shower. A couple of Italian Guys had the same problem. Food was OK, but people dont go for that. Jacuzzi is too large to have a good effect on the body.
The Sauna was not working properly and the maintenance had to be called in.
The massuer Sonja was working overtime as there was a queue. (SHE HAS TO BE GOOD). I couldnt partake her service.
It seems that a lot of Polish and Romanian girls have taken over at Palace and are really not good providers. Also the best eye-candy could be termed at a 7 and that too who had an attitude. I saw her without a customer for nearly 2-3 hours chatting around with the pretty bartender. Overall poor selection as even some German Girls were having a large belly with a wraparound cloth to hide it.
Overall, I thought of saving TAXI money by not going to OASE and chose Palace instead. However, I have now made it a point never to go there and never to miss OASE even if it for eye candy only. My 150+75 euros have not been worth at all.
Happy mongering
Charlie
Basketcase
04-08-09, 09:02
Hi Chico Charlie 1,
Thank you for your timely trip report as I am deciding on making the adventure to Palace as well. After being scarred during a raid in late 2008 I have not been back since.
Thank you for being honest and sticking up for what you believe is right.
So sorry that there was some thinking that it was your origins that caused the attitude issues that you experienced or the refusal of services. I think we have all had these experiences.
If I do not go to Palace to catch up with a crew from the Isles I think it may end up being Bernds. I have been duly warned about Bernds and I think I need to be in the right state of mind. LOL.
I have had a very bitter experience at palace except for one saving grace in the name of BEE, a thai goddess with a full back tattoo.
Met some Romanians and Russians who wanted 150 for a 30 mins. Crazy stuff everywhere. Not a genuine service oriented FKK.
My 150+75 euros have not been worth at all.
Chico Charlie 1, could you just clarify what happened here. You heap praise on BEE (Thailand) but then complain about the Romanians and Russians wanting €150 for a 30 min session.
You imply that you only went with Bee since all the other girls were "rip offs" and "sharks". Then you end by saying you spent €150+75 meaning €75 for entrance and €150 for your session with Bee. Did Bee also charge €150 for 30 minutes similar to what the other girls were offering?
I do not know why it is €150 for 30 minutes. What were the girls offering for that money: was it rimming service (€50 extra) and CIM finish (€50 extra) or anal (€100 extra), COB (€50 extra sometimes - just ask) or was it DFK (should be inclusive in standard €50 but can be an extra).
Some girls at Palace had said that the management said that €50 service is suck and fuck. The girls took a legalistic view of the suck and fuck standard service that anthing else was an extra menaing COB and DFK or massages could be chargeable at the standard €50 extra rate.
The laminated picture cards show the pricing schedule.
After that it was all downhill. Sharks every where. Girls having attitudes, refusing services probably because I am Indian origin.
This is very sad if this is the case.
The showers are wierd as well. every minute they would switch off on their own. I was not sure whether to clean myself or hold the knob of the shower.
This made me laugh out loud. You were not sure whether to clean yourself or hold your knob. Priceless. Brightened my day.
Yes, the showers do take a bit getting used to. Use one hand to press the water on knob and use your other hand to wash. Please forgive me if you only have one hand. I am sorry I do not know how many hands you have.
It seems that a lot of Polish and Romanian girls have taken over at Palace and are really not good providers. Also the best eye-candy could be termed at a 7 and that too who had an attitude. I saw her without a customer for nearly 2-3 hours chatting around with the pretty bartender. Overall poor selection as even some German Girls were having a large belly with a wraparound cloth to hide it.
I like Polish girls - they have the look I like along with German girls. Romanian girls are growing on me - I suppose there is not much choice has gangs of Romanians have infiltrated just about every club and make a large minority in each on their selections.
So sorry the best eye cnady was a 7. Did you speak to her at all and find her name out or at least provide a description to provide context.
Sometimes the barriers need to be brought down and you hvae to make the first move and not expect the girl to make the first move. Do not get me wrong, I like the refreshing stance that the girls ask you for sex rather me on my knees, like I do in real life, begging for sex at the end of the bed.
If the pretty girl is talking to the pretty blond bartender for 2-3 hours then she must not be busy. Just go over and chat to her. She may be relieved that someone has shown an interest.
Too bad Palace girls have taken up to wearing more clothig like waist wraps or bustiers, etc... I like naked girls. I heard that either management or the girs collectively thought girls wearing some lingerie or other clothign was considered more sexier. I guess my view lost out there.
Overall, I thought of saving TAXI money by not going to OASE and chose Palace instead. However, I have now made it a point never to go there and never to miss OASE even if it for eye candy only.
Happy mongering
Charlie
Thank you for the conclusion that you will go to OASE and never reach the halls of PALACE. Fair enough.
You can save money on the taxi to OASE by taking the S5 train to Friedrichsdorf (€3.70 one way) then taxi to Oase from there (€9 one way).
Cheers,
Sebastiane
04-08-09, 11:38
Went to Palace last night again after debating with myself whether I should--I'm spending far too much money in the place. Living in Frankfurt makes it an easy hop on the you-bahn you see. Anyway my dick won over my mind again and I was off.
I'd gotten a text message from Natasha (a drop-dead gorgeous Romanian with a great body and a very friendly attitude and great chemistry and total GFE in the room) asking if I was coming or not which made up my mind for me!
When I got there it was full of lots of bored-looking girls lying around--nice eye candy!.-as there didn't appear to be many guys. I ordered an orange-juice and sat down to observe. Soon Natasha spotted me and came straight towards me. We sat down and she made sweet talk and caressed me lightly with her fingers on my torso as I sipped my juice. During this, my other fave. Romanian Indira came and asked if I'd like a threesome. Though tempted I declined. Soon after we went to the room and it was a very good, long, session as usual until my dick suddenly decided to go soft whilst I was fucking her. After that it was still pleasant but not ideal as I love to come whilst fucking her. She goes wild and bites and scratches me all over but this time I could tell she was disappointed I'd gotten soft. (I'd come twice earlier in the day from watching porn! )
We did a great lengthy 69 and I got hard again pretty quickly but wasn't in the mood for fucking. Instead I did some more 69 including rimming her and then, turned on, I recklessly decided to try out a fantasy I'd had for ages but never tried. She looked so so stunning with her hair tied up and permed and her porcelain skin and dark eyes that I wasn't thinking straight. Well, carrying out the fantasy ruined it for me even though I did come and the session ended on an unfortunate low (for me). She saw my disappointed and tried hard to cheer me up but it didn't work.
I paid her the money and left shortly afterwards.
Great girl, good session till the last 10 minutes due to my own silliness.
Chico Charlie 1
04-08-09, 13:09
Hi BC,
Well sorry for a shortened report.
I paid BEE only 50 Euros for a good half hour of GFE including a massage after the deed. In fact thereafter I searched for her all evening but I think she left early.
I had one Polish girl and one Hungarian/Romanian girl as well. I have paid 50 Euros per session only which is not worth mentioning. For three sessions and the entrance I paid 225 Euros. I dont remember the names as they were not worth mentioning. (Probably AANYA or HANNAH)
I have been to OASE and Palace earlier and also SAMYA but the current experience has been the worse in my life.
My two cents. To each his own.
Charlie
If the pretty girl is talking to the pretty blond bartender for 2-3 hours then she must not be busy. Just go over and chat to her. She may be relieved that someone has shown an interest.
This could also be a sign of a shark? I read somewhere that the best looking ones don't always offer the best service; on slow times to look for a mid-range lady who is busy. Or resign yourself to an Optiflik.
Too bad Palace girls have taken up to wearing more clothig like waist wraps or bustiers, etc... I like naked girls. I heard that either management or the girs collectively thought girls wearing some lingerie or other clothign was considered more sexier. I guess my view lost out there.This would seem to be borne out by the addition on their web site of the announcement that:
Glamour night every month on every last Tuesday !
Our ladies will welcome you in their sexy evening dresses and will be spending a magical time with you in a seductive atmosphere. Let us spoil you like we always do.Ya, right. :(
Thank you for your timely trip report as I am deciding on making the adventure to Palace as well. After being scarred during a raid in late 2008 I have not been back since.About that Raid! I thought those things were mostly Immigration matters? I will be going soon, (I'm having severe doubts about going to Palace now) and do not want contact with the Authorities if possible.
To Chico Charlie 1: Sorry about your negative experience, but thank you for your infomative report. It is interesting that no matter what the conditions, there are always some ladies who can put a smile on your face, i.e. Bee. It is just to bad that others of your preference list were not present.
Basketcase
04-08-09, 22:22
About that Raid! I thought those things were mostly Immigration matters? I will be going soon, (I'm having severe doubts about going to Palace now) and do not want contact with the Authorities if possible.
Myrmidon,
Phhfffff. You misinterpreted the description. In this case the reference to raid was to a visit to Palace. Saying you raided Palace sounds a lot more fun than saying I went to Palace.
That is all,
Ekliges Lauern
04-08-09, 22:31
I read somewhere that the best looking ones don't always offer the best service; on slow times to look for a mid-range lady who is busy.
This is one of my tried and true techniques. Look for a lady that is much busier that sheer physical attractiveness would justify.
But don't shy away from the beauties altogether. Yes, if no one is sessioning with them, that is a serious red flag. Just remember, you should be prepared to discard "rules" if you sense chemistry. Go with you intuition.
Atlantico 70
04-08-09, 22:37
Hi guys,
I'm following your forum long time now, I'm so envious about your different available solutions for our hobby
Hope not to be booring but really I need your assistance.
On my flight back to italy I arranged an overnight stop in frankfurt next Friday. Friday afternoon I will land at Main airport with departure Saturday noon from Hahn airport.
I have no direct experience with FKK and never been in Frankfurt, but really I whant to spend all the night in one of your dreaming places (I will not take hotel).
Somebody can be so kind to give me clear instructions (even by PM if more easy) how to reach Palace from Main, and how to go back to Hahn the morning after?
Palace should be the easyer place to reach, isn't it?
I will have also an overnight stop next week Wednesday, landing at Hahn with departure Thursday from Main, any suggestion/recommendation?
I know that I never made contribuition to this forum, but please help me because I found this flight combination at the last moment.
I can only promise detailed reports, and full assistance for Istanbul if somebody need.
Many thanks, grazie mille.
Ciao
Myrmidon,
Phhfffff. You misinterpreted the description. In this case the reference to raid was to a visit to Palace. Saying you raided Palace sounds a lot more fun than saying I went to Palace.
That is all,
Oh.
Yet another handicap: I don't speak the lingo. I gotta learn how ta act in da club so the ladies don't think I'm a short timer. I gotta trust my instincts 'cause I don't speak the ladies native tongue. Now, ya tellin' me I gotta learns me da lingo? lol I get cha..Me cool! lol
You had me goin' there for a minute. So it won't come as a surprise then that I'm lookin' to form a posse to ride on the Palace and Oase after the 21st? (See the Wanted Poster on the Travel Plans & Announcements Thread)
Vito Corleone
04-09-09, 00:38
The laminated picture cards show the pricing schedule.
Those laminated picture cards do not show kissing as 50E extra. I would never pay for it, but if management says only "suck & fuck for 50E" then they should add kissing or DFK as extra.
Vito Corleone
04-09-09, 00:45
The showers are wierd as well. every minute they would switch off on their own. I was not sure whether to clean myself or hold the knob of the shower. A couple of Italian Guys had the same problem. Food was OK, but people dont go for that. Jacuzzi is too large to have a good effect on the body.
Is pressing the shower knob 4-5 times really that fucking hard to do? What were you expecting?
Vito Corleone
04-09-09, 00:54
I gotta trust my instincts 'cause I don't speak the ladies native tongue.
I have been in the FKK scene for 4 years & I still do not speak any of the ladies native tongue. Sometimes body language can add some excitement to a session.
Vito Corleone
04-09-09, 01:02
Somebody can be so kind to give me clear instructions (even by PM if more easy) how to reach Palace from Main, and how to go back to Hahn the morning after?
Palace should be the easyer place to reach, isn't it?
To Palace:
Take the S-Bahn from the airport to Frankfurt main station. Then take the U-4 to Bockenheimer Warte then change trains to U-6 or U-7 to Industriehof.
To Hahn:
www.bahn.de
I have been in the FKK scene for 4 years & I still do not speak any of the ladies native tongue. Sometimes body language can add some excitement to a session.
I hear ya. That was just part of the joke about my misinterpreting the term 'Raid' as it applied to a visit to Palace, (which I will now refer to as a Posse).
Speaking of native tongues at Palace, (and I don't mean to be a cunning linguist), I thought I read that a lot of Italians frequent it on occasion. And with everyone complaining about the financial crisis cooling off business, perhaps the management of Palace should consider offering to donate a small portion of the door charge to relief efforts in Italy? Don't penalize the ladies, they make little enough already at €50 / half hour. But putting it on the door would make you feel just a little bit better about visiting and making a donation @ the same time. I'd rather see a donation made to something like this than have a Glamour Day! And who knows, maybe more guys would come out to make a donation to a good cause and see a lot of beautiful naked, (alright, semi-naked @ Palace) ladies. Just thinking out loud.
Basketcase
04-09-09, 05:15
You had me goin' there for a minute. So it won't come as a surprise then that I'm lookin' to form a posse to ride on the Palace and Oase after the 21st? (See the Wanted Poster on the Travel Plans & Announcements Thread)
That is right. Sometimes you see references to posses being rounded up or crews forming to visit the clubs. Posses and crews sound more like people on a mission than say a team (very office work environment) or a group.
If you get takers for your dates to join you then you'll have your crew. Guys to talk with, get back channel feedback on the girls and back you in those times of conflict or just to sit and have lunch or dinner instead of eating alone. I know you can ask a girl to sit with you but not every girl you have fucked or only just met will take time out to have a languid meal with a stranger she just fucked or met that day. Not all of us have charm, endowned with pots of cold hard cash to splash or are born with good looks.
Cheers,
Not all of us have charm, endowned with pots of cold hard cash to splash or are born with good looks.
Cheers,
Not to mention a great sense of humour! Thanks for your comments. Much appreciated. ;)
M P Lurker
04-09-09, 13:35
To Palace:
Take the S-Bahn from the airport to Frankfurt main station. Then take the U-4 to Bockenheimer Warte then change trains to U-6 or U-7 to Industriehof.
To Hahn:
www.bahn.de
Could it not be done with just one change, by taking S-Bahn two stops further (than main station) to Hauptwache and then change to U6/U7? Extra stops passed but might end up quicker and less hassle.
Hi guys,
I'm following your forum long time now, I'm so envious about your different available solutions for our hobby
Hope not to be booring but really I need your assistance.
On my flight back to italy I arranged an overnight stop in frankfurt next Friday. Friday afternoon I will land at Main airport with departure Saturday noon from Hahn airport.
I have no direct experience with FKK and never been in Frankfurt, but really I whant to spend all the night in one of your dreaming places (I will not take hotel).
Somebody can be so kind to give me clear instructions (even by PM if more easy) how to reach Palace from Main, and how to go back to Hahn the morning after?
Palace should be the easyer place to reach, isn't it?
I will have also an overnight stop next week Wednesday, landing at Hahn with departure Thursday from Main, any suggestion/recommendation?
I know that I never made contribuition to this forum, but please help me because I found this flight combination at the last moment.
I can only promise detailed reports, and full assistance for Istanbul if somebody need.
Many thanks, grazie mille.
CiaoCiao atlantico,
Since you have 2 stops I would say you hit palace on Friday and oase on Wednesday, or viceversa, then you report on both and tell us which one you liked best (I would guess oase, but. Just a guess).
As to arrive there, there are bus transports linking Hahn and Train Station (about 15 € per ride), and taxi rides bringing you from train station to Palace and Oase. Oase being more out of town you have also the S-Bahn (treno) option til Friedrichsdorf (S5).
Everything is very easy to reach, just hop in the taxi and say: oase bitte! Or: palace bitte!
Or search the forum for more detailed info.
Have fun, ciao e buona fortuna.
Vito Corleone
04-10-09, 10:23
Could it not be done with just one change, by taking S-Bahn two stops further (than main station) to Hauptwache and then change to U6/U7? Extra stops passed but might end up quicker and less hassle.
Maybe. I have never gone from the airport straight to Palace.
Friday nigh, the 10th. It was my last night in Germany and it ended on a shitty note.
Sophia - blond medium length hair, german from hamburg, medium to short height. Body was average. Don't know why I went with here - maybe I thought 'Hey, here's someone I can fck really hard!'. Anyway, service was avg, but soon after I was finished she rushed out the door. When it was time to pay she wanted $100 euro. I said that wasn't how it worked and said let's ask the mgmt. She said that she would do that but I went up to the front desk and asked myself. Long story short, they comprimised and said to pay her 75 euro.
It was soooo clear that she was lying. If I spoke German I could have easily called her out. Her first explanation was that we did 'extra' - kissing, licking and that's why it was 100. When the real managers came out her story changed to we went over 30min. I told the managers that she keeps changing her story but I don't know how much they understood. Any way, buyer beware!! And it is a buyers market.
M P Lurker
04-12-09, 10:36
Maybe. I have never gone from the airport straight to Palace.
U6/U7 passes through Hauptwache but not main train station (Hauptbahnhof).
Most S-Bahn trains from Airport Flughafen Bahnhof (S8-S9?) pass through both main station followed by Taunusanlage and then Hauptwache.
So if leaving from main station, its better to catch U4 to Bockenheimer Warte first and then U6/U7. But if already on S-Bahn, the best tactic changes to go to Hauptwache and skip U4 altogether.
Can be seen on this Map:
http://www.urbanrail.net/eu/ffm/frankfrt.htm
Also see:
http://www.vgf-ffm.de/vgf/images/Liniennetzplan_2008.pdf
I worked in Frankfurt for 2 months recently with daily S-Bahn travel and many trips to Palace as well.
M P Lurker
04-12-09, 10:56
Friday nigh, the 10th. It was my last night in Germany and it ended on a shitty note.
Did you have any good girls? Some of us like to know who is good too.
U6/U7 passes through Hauptwache but not main train station (Hauptbahnhof).
Most S-Bahn trains from Airport Flughafen Bahnhof (S8-S9?) pass through both main station followed by Taunusanlage and then Hauptwache.
So if leaving from main station, its better to catch U4 to Bockenheimer Warte first and then U6/U7. But if already on S-Bahn, the best tactic changes to go to Hauptwache and skip U4 altogether.
Can be seen on this Map:
http://www.urbanrail.net/eu/ffm/frankfrt.htm
Also see:
http://www.vgf-ffm.de/vgf/images/Liniennetzplan_2008.pdf
I worked in Frankfurt for 2 months recently with daily S-Bahn travel and many trips to Palace as well.
Thanks again for the info. Taken in conjunction with the other urban transit maps http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/26/Schienennetzplan_Frankfurt_am_Main.png that's a lot of info.
Question though: I see by the first urbanrail site that you can supposedly take the U2 to Bad Homberg? Would this be an alternative for S5 when going to Oase? Which would you recommend? I realize S5 also goes to Friedrichsdorf for the same price and allows cheaper taxi, but which would you take?
These are just a couple of Rogers posts providing names of the good providers. Pretty easy to find them.
Sunny - this is the girl with the tatoo on her side reaching up to her right tit. German blond, nice tan, medium tits, medium to above avg height. Lean, long body. I've been having some good luck with German girls on this trip for some reason. Good session, not rushed. Would repeat.
1. Rebecca - Romanian, short, slim brunnette. Very sweet girl. Good session.
2. Olympia - I have good sessions w/her for some reason. I'd like to say it's my good looks but it's probably that she doesn't find me threatining or too repulsive.
1. Sesica? Very weird German name. Works only the day shift. Optifck. Looks like the actress Monica Potter - do a google on her. Very pretty. Tall, blond, a bit of a gut from baby.
2. Kim - she's probably an 8 or a 9. Tall, tan, brunnette w/blond streaks in hair. I couldn't believe she's German but she is. From Heidelberg. PSE. She initiated the DFK.
Monica - I think Romanian, black hair in a long pony tail, gypsy looking. Surprisingly very pleasant and nice girl. She worked hard to try and get me cum a second time but I couldn't. Would repeat.
Dear all,
I will be going to Palace this Friday and very much appreciate your advise suggestions for girls who provide good service and would be your top pick when you visit Palace.
Thanks in advance for your help.
Hi Abr 53.
I will be there too on friday. For the first time in a FKK and Germany. I hope everything will be like the reports i have read.
I will be there with my friend, so if you see two good looking indians that's us.
Dear all,
I will be going to Palace this Friday and very much appreciate your advise suggestions for girls who provide good service and would be your top pick when you visit Palace.
Thanks in advance for your help.
Take a look at the post below yours. Check out the Search function. Spend a little time reading the last month or so's posts, (it doesn't take that long and can be kinda fun, in a voyeristic sense) and you will not only get names, you will see if some of those names are likely to appeal to you (you did not say what you like) and you will get a 'feel' for the club. How you make out will depend on your experience and your tastes. Happy Hunting.
I have never been there. I am going in about 1 week and have built up a list of Do's & Don't's based on research as suggested above.
M P Lurker
04-14-09, 03:07
Thanks again for the info. Taken in conjunction with the other urban transit maps http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/26/Schienennetzplan_Frankfurt_am_Main.png that's a lot of info.
Question though: I see by the first urbanrail site that you can supposedly take the U2 to Bad Homberg? Would this be an alternative for S5 when going to Oase? Which would you recommend? I realize S5 also goes to Friedrichsdorf for the same price and allows cheaper taxi, but which would you take?
Trust me. Do not take the U2. Its a much longer taxi ride to Oase and often there are no taxis there anyway at Bad Homburg Gonzenheim (spelling?).
U2 probably takes longer than S Bahn too.
M P Lurker
04-14-09, 03:17
These are just a couple of Rogers posts providing names of the good providers. Pretty easy to find them.
I would like to do German Kim. But that's an ancient report maybe dated July 2007? Is German Kim still working at Palace and does anyone know a good day to catch her?I only ever spotted her once and she was busy. That was over 2 months ago.
Sophia was the only girl I had in my trip to Palace. I didn't recognize anyone from my visit a year ago - which is a good thing. I like fresh meat.
Vito Corleone
04-15-09, 01:37
I would like to do German Kim. But that's an ancient report maybe dated July 2007? Is German Kim still working at Palace and does anyone know a good day to catch her?I only ever spotted her once and she was busy. That was over 2 months ago.
I have not seen her since August 2008. She gained about 15 lbs, but still looks great. Best to ask HB.
Basketcase
04-18-09, 02:59
This could also be a sign of a shark? I read somewhere that the best looking ones don't always offer the best service; on slow times to look for a mid-range lady who is busy. Or resign yourself to an Optiflik.
Myrmidon,
You can say in one respect that the pretty girls are sharks. But these pretty girls cost the same amount as the average looking or less than average looking girls.
When I am on holiday I am looking for a bit of escape from the dreary humdrum. I am maybe at times not looking for reality but a bit of fantasy. The ability to score with the best looking chick in your own eyes and not with the ordinary girls that even in real life ignore you or you have to make so much effort. Maybe that is lazy, but FKK girls are easier provided you have a fiddy (€50) or a hundo (€100) to pay her for her services depending on what you took.
I do like an optifuck and this is why Bernds or FKK Acapulco or a Partytreff would not work for me. I sometimes go with some less than spectacular girls which you can also find in the destination clubs and I find I am trying to work out how to extricate myself from the session as quick as I can and I feel I have wasted a fiddy (€50).
The challenge is there that I eventually go to Bernds but so many say I would be disappointed. I guess I tend to stay with what the are known as the "Topclubs" or what we know in English speaking parlance as "Destination clubs". Speaking to Germans that I have spoken to in the destination clubs and are members of various German fora they reverberate repeatedly that the Topclubs are Golden Time, Living Room, Oase and World. You will in general find what you like there and have less chance of a having hit and miss visits. Visiting a Topclub does not rule out a hit and miss where you find nothing that you like.
Finding Optifucks that also give great service is the mother lode and you do find them. Why restrict yourself to girls that you can score with in real life when you can go with the girls that you can only dream about in real life?
I sometimes go with girls that some regard as Sharks or Optifucks but somehow it works for me. I feel I get my 30 minutes worth and the service is, to me, fine. I do not demur as I repeat.
Do what works for you and do not get hung up on time or whether she does all the abbreviation services (DATY, DFK, MPOS, etc..) unless that is what gets you off. Some of us do not need to work our way through the kama sutra to feel like we have gotten value.
When I am on holiday I am looking for a bit of escape from the dreary humdrum. I am maybe at times not looking for reality but a bit of fantasy.Agreed, that is what FKK is all about. There is no way this could be confused with reality and I believe that leaving reality at the door for several hours harms no one and is good for your over-all well-being.
Finding Optifucks that also give great service is the mother lode and you do find them. Why restrict yourself to girls that you can score with in real life when you can go with the girls that you can only dream about in real life?I agree. And I believe that, on occasion, I can 'connect' and establish a rapport that may allow great service. You don't know for sure until you try!
Do what works for you and do not get hung up on time or whether she does all the abbreviation services (DATY, DFK, MPOS, etc..) unless that is what gets you off. Some of us do not need to work our way through the kama sutra to feel like we have gotten value.This says it all. We each are different in our likes / dislikes. If I am happy with the lady, it matters not what anyone else says, nor should it matter where I find her, be it Palace, Oase, World or any other FKK. Posters can come on the board and boost their favourite club / girl etc. That is their right. How they came to that decision is also only their business. What matters is that they are happy. And if you are of similar mind, then perhaps you will agree with them. Or not.
Atlantico 70
04-21-09, 00:45
Ciao atlantico,
Since you have 2 stops I would say you hit palace on Friday and oase on Wednesday, or viceversa, then you report on both and tell us which one you liked best (I would guess oase, but. Just a guess).
As to arrive there, there are bus transports linking Hahn and Train Station (about 15 € per ride), and taxi rides bringing you from train station to Palace and Oase. Oase being more out of town you have also the S-Bahn (treno) option til Friedrichsdorf (S5).
Everything is very easy to reach, just hop in the taxi and say: oase bitte! Or: palace bitte!
Or search the forum for more detailed info.
Have fun, ciao e buona fortuna. Ok, I would like to put my report as promised (I hope usefull for newbye like me).
Easter's Friday afternoon landed at Main airport. Collected S-bahn map and after little bit of orientation decided to start my trip to heaven.
First transportation:
I confirm that the best way is to take S-bahn S8/S9 until Hauptwache (skiping Hauptbahnhof) and from there, switch to U6/U7 until Industriehof. From Industriehof just crossed the road on my left and walked throug a small passage on the briked wall. Few steps and at 19:00 FKK The Palace is visible.
Adrenaline start flowing on my body.
Paid entrance fee, instructed by nice german lady, collected yellow towel, got long shower, I entered the big lounge and adventure start.
I made a tour of the facilities, decided to start with a nice sauna, just to relax a bit. After sauna I took a place at the main bar for a glass of cola and to have a general overview of the facility.
May be 30 girls around and around same number of yellow towels. To tell the story not so many stunning girls present, many average.
How to take advantage of the informations collected from your good forum, how to recognize sharks or how to find good providers? Was not a good idea to go around asking "what's your name" to every girl, so I remain at the bar waiting for the events.
One blond nice girl approach me, nice body, nice ass and small tits, with a greek/turkish nose and beautifull lips. Introduce herself as Laura from romania. The first approach was not so aggressive, but due to my bad experiences with romanians in istanbul (where I'm living), after some chit chat I decided to politely refuse her telling that I'm just arrived and first I whant to relax and look around. I finish my cola checking my mail box in the small smoking room and after I moved to big smoking room for a sigarett.
What to say? Again Laura came to me proposing a session describing how she will be good with me. She start to insist to much and not take care about my kind excuses.
Than I decide to reveal my self, and (later I realize) I did the first mistake of the evening, clearly explaining her that I don't like romanians in general, not because of her but in general.
Since I was so frank, her reaction was bit curious, she said every girl is different and anyway her blod is mixed half Romanian half bulgarian. In the next half hour she approach me two time more but with humor like "Hi I'm Laura from Canada or I'm Laura from Japan let's go to room".
My style was wrong because I discovered that alf of the girls were romanians and also later in the smoking room she was informing other girls about my position. But what to do, mistake was done.
I move to bar again where after a while a girl come and introduce as Eva from Latvia. She was nice, not pushy, good english. Ennanched tits, body let say 7, 5. She is from a small city where I spent few days for work and where I did not score any girl, so I decided to try a latvian beauty.
Eva is 165cm, blond, D cup, not a stunning girl but sweet.
Give me entusiastic BBJ, we did sex in several position, allow fingering, become really wet. Didn't check the watch and I fuck for all my 30 minutes without bad feeling. I would repeat if I come back to frankfurt.
Later food came out so I had my dinner, more than acceptable italian style ravioli and fried chicken wings, table in the main room with two average Russian girls that speak all time Russian and just ask me if I understand Russian.
Again at the bar I had some contact with different girls but without click, so no session.
Later I saw two tall girls working the room togheter in a funny way and smiling. One black and one blond, long hairs, ennanched tits, the black one with a perfect body, may be 190cm with shoses.
I start to think about a small man like me with a queen lady like the black one. I move to smooking room where she went for rest. Some eye contact and she came to me.
Vivienne, from Bohn may be, body 9, perfect silicone D cups, perfect B side, tatoo on the shoulder (cristian) and funny piercing behind upper lip. Funny and friendly attitude.
I must try this girl with a body that only in my dreams I can have, so I decide to go to the room.
In the room she confirm the easy way attitude, no any attempt to upsell extra, just she start with a good soft BBJ without hands that I will remember long time. I spend remaing time fucking her in several positions but the best one was in doggy when you can admire her perfect B side. She never check time but like to chat and smile. We did for more than 30' but no extra money necessary to her. I will repeat. I enjoied facilities like sauna and jacuzzi and try to relax one hour.
Was 02:00 when I decided to look for the last girl before living. Less girls remaining now in the club, several looking tired and bored. I noted a couple of beautifull blond girls but they were working quite hard and I was not able to find the correct timing. Around 03:00 I was tired and the atmosphere in the club so-so, only few people. Finally at 04:00 a left and by taxi (11 euro) I went to main station.
Just for info, from main station is available the Ryanair bus connecting Hahn every hour.
All in all the experience was great for me even if probably I was not in one of the better days (due to Easter probably) but unforgettable.
Later in the bus I was thinking that we all, we should thanks the germans that they arrange such kind of places, and how stupid we are in italy and how complicate is to cultivate my hobby in istanbul.
Sorry for my poor english and for my too long report.
Viva la fica,
Ciao
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Ekliges Lauern
04-22-09, 12:29
You can say in one respect that the pretty girls are sharks. But these pretty girls cost the same amount as the average looking or less than average looking girls.
I tend to think this holds in real life as well. Better looking women tend to be more demanding simply because they know they can be.
The ability to score with the best looking chick in your own eyes and not with the ordinary girls that even in real life ignore you or you have to make so much effort. Maybe that is lazy, but FKK girls are easier provided you have a fiddy (€50) or a hundo (€100) to pay her for her services depending on what you took.
Well, in ordinary life, I can't score with an average looking girl in her late 20s or early 30s. I'm just too old. 40s, no problem. I also like ordinary looking women, so the method works for me.
II sometimes go with girls that some regard as Sharks or Optifucks but somehow it works for me. I feel I get my 30 minutes worth and the service is, to me, fine. I do not demur as I repeat.
This is true. I'm sure you are horrified from a visual perspective with some of the women I go with (although the recent GT/Acapulco run, I clearly had discarded my visual standards completely). I am horrified some of the women you repeat with from a service point of view. But, to each his own.
I arrived at Palace a little before 10 O’clock. FKK World was filled with older, overweight, mousy looking men. Palace was not. Oase had younger, healthier looking men. Palace did not. Palace had hardly any men at all. Palace had two or three women for every man. By 12:30 when I left there was nearly an even ratio, but the girls were not happy. Whenever I have been to Palace the food has run out shortly after being served, but on this night most of it was still sitting there when I left. I wondered why there were so few men, but in retrospect I think it is because no one wants to waste their money paying above the going rate to get into a club where most of the girls refuse to kiss and where they aren’t naked. The facilities are nice. It’s a shame the girls aren’t better.
I seem to remember a report about some lockers getting broken into and people robbed. Someone thought it was an inside job. The club now has small safes inside the lockers. This is a great idea that I hope other clubs will imitate. Also it’s nice to get a robe; it almost justifies the extra five euros.
I relaxed on the sofa against the wall in front of the bar. When I did a girl approached me and said hello. After my unpleasant experience at World I was apprehensive. After a minute of hello .. what’s your name … where are you from … she asked if I wanted to go to the room. I said not right now and she smiled and politely said “ok, see you around”. Whew! What a relief and what a contrast. To the club’s credit I was approached many times and the girls always took no for an answer the first time, and it made being there much more pleasant than being at world.
Evely, 28?, Croatia
Overall 5, looks 7, chest floppy A (sic.)
Evely has long straight brown hair and a nice face. She approached me on the sofa and I said how about here. She smiled and said sure. We got started and when I tried to kiss her she made a cold face. She didn’t take off her top and when I took it off for her I found out why. She really doesn’t look so good with her top off. She has a thick torso and pointy droopy small tits that don’t go well at all with it. She looked a little older than I had thought at first as well. Having sex with a beautiful girl in front of everyone is really hot. Having sex with a girl who you’re not so into who refuses to kiss you (another reason to do it in front of everyone is that usually girls won’t want to treat you badly in that situation) is just ok.
Denisa, 20?, Moldova
Overall 10, looks 10, chest B
Ironically, though Palace had overall the coldest girls most of whom wouldn’t kiss, the best GFE of my entire trip was here. Denisa has carefully manicured short light fluffy blonde hair. She is tall and thin. She approached me in the kino with a friend of hers who has curly black hair and proposed a two girl session. They are both beautiful and I was tempted, but I remembered the rule that two girl sessions that are offered are usually substandard, plus I didn’t want to spend so much. But I was definitely interested in Denisa, so I said two girls would be too many and when they asked if I wanted to choose just one girl I chose Denisa.
I don’t regret doing the two girl session because I wasn’t able to finish. I regret wasting a good pop on Evely, though. Denisa was amazing. She’s one of the best kissers I’ve met in any club, she gave a great bj, and the sex was superior. We did several positions and ended with a long bj to try to do cim, but I wasn’t able to. I assured her that it had nothing to do with her, which was true. If you are ever in this club she is the one to go for. If I am ever there again I will try the two girl session. She told me that she was leaving for Moldova the next day, but that she would be back.
Angelika? Avelina? 25? Czech Republic
Overall 5, looks 10, chest D
This girl looks great but is cold and bitchy. She told me her name when we met, but afterwards when I didn’t remember it exactly she refused to tell me again. She has long straight fluffy blonde hair, is thin, and has a great rack. She likes to lean against the rail and stick her butt in the air, which reminded me of the famous Andrea at FKK World. She was wearing pink panties that evening.
I asked her if she wanted to go to the kino and she said yes. As we started to walk I said “ … or we could do it on the sofa here … “ She didn’t say anything. Then she said “was that you earlier?” and I said yes. She didn’t say anything but had a disapproving look on her face. I should have pulled the plug then. In the kino there was no kissing. She gave me a short blow job and then wanted to go to the room. I told her I wanted to stay and had asked her and she had said yes. She resisted, but I insisted and she gave in. The sex was weak with lots of bitching about positions every time we changed and then bitching about how long I was taking. I deliberately took a long time and I wasn’t able to finish but I didn’t try hard. In the end I was happy not to waste a pop on her. She acted bored and inconvenienced by the whole matter.
Sophie, 22?, German
Overall 6, looks 9, chest C
There was one more girl that was very good looking and after trying her I was happy to leave. Sophie had short straight blonde hair. She had a wide torso, but was thin. I was disappointed when she said she was German. She agreed to go to the kino with me. When I tried to kiss her she said “I don’t kiss for 50.” That killed the mood. She got on top of me and we struggled some as she resisted the exact position that I wanted. I finished fairly quickly, so there were no additional problems, but by this time I had had enough, so I paid up and left.
Previous report - World: http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=874240&postcount=2944
Start of previous trip - Gang Bang Club: http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=874236&postcount=2664
I found a gem here, but it seems that most of the girls offer mechanical sex with no kissing or charge extra for kissing. That would explain why it was so empty.
Denisa, 20?, Moldova, overall 10, looks 10, chest B
Absolutely fantastic. Super GFE/PSE.
Evely, 28?, Croatia, overall 5, looks 7, chest floppy A (sic.)
No kissing. Looks worse with her clothes off.
Sophie, 22?, German, overall 6, looks 9, chest C
Businesslike. Kissing is extra. AWE (Amsterdam wh-re experience).
Angelika? Avelina? 25? Czech Republic, overall 5, looks 10, chest D
Cold and crabby. No kissing. AWE.
Details: http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=874237&postcount=4107
Fkk World was filled with older, overweight, mousy looking men. Palace was not.
Oase had younger, healthier looking men. Palace did not.
Palace had hardly any men at all. Palace had two.
Dear Catalist,
I'm just curious are you interested in men or in women?
fkk world was filled with older, overweight, mousy looking men. palace was not.
oase had younger, healthier looking men. palace did not.
palace had hardly any men at all. palace had two.
dear catalist,
i'm just curious are you interested in men or in women?if you had taken the trouble to search the forum for catalyst's reports (try russia for a start), you would a) be in no doubt as to the answer to your question, b) certainly be humbled by the quality of his reporting and c) be equally determined to contribute in future as well as he has for the last few years. i wish you good fortune in this enterprise. but you had better speed up a little, because your last report of any kind was in april 2007.
I believe that my comment on Catalyst's Russian Porno posts at the time was "Groundbreaking", that is once I was able to get my jaw up from the floor..
Very nice to see you back, Catalyst, after a lengthy ISG sabattical. Keep well.
E.
If you had taken the trouble to search the forum for Catalyst's reports (try Russia for a start), you would a) be in no doubt as to the answer to your question, b) certainly be humbled by the quality of his reporting and c) be equally determined to contribute in future as well as he has for the last few years. I wish you good fortune in this enterprise.
First I would like to comment to Toscana, your criticism about my reports is wright but the only reason for that is that I monger very little in the last years since I was in a relationship. And also its not easy for me to write in English.
I just return to our hobby lately.
I really enjoy to read your reports and also other Seniors members reports like bascetcase jackyo and others.
Saturday 18 April at the palace
I arrived around 5p. M the the club was very quite. In the club I saw at that time about 16 girls and the same number of men.
When I left the club around 1am there were around 30 girls and the same number of men.
Until about 8 pm very few girls were getting business, I first thought the financial crisis hit hard on the place. But from 8p. M until I left people were fucking like there is no tomorrow. Girls went in and out the rooms like in a train station.
So no need to worry for the girls income.
My first session was with the German sofy from hamburg (same girl catalyst describe) she is 22 in my opinion very good looking, slim about 170cm tall.
No kissing no Daty on the menu I consider it as opticfick. After the session I met her near the bar and we talked for about 15 minutes, I can say she is intelligent girl. Will I repeat? Yes, for opticfick.
Second girl: cristina or fatima (she is using both) from Morocco.
I know, she is not the most beautiful girl in the club but she gave me good service in the room. Long and good BBBJ.
Third girl Han the Chinese Girl
It was 11p. M I was thinking which girl will be my third session, I wanted again an opticfick but the slim blond goodloking girls were busy like crazy.
So I approach han, she is petite girl about 160cm slim with short black hair. After a short interview we went to the room.
She started with an hand Job and sucking from time to time. I can tell you guys it is not a simple hand Job Its a fantastic massage to the penis, something incredible. First time in my life I was facing a master in her profession. I was feeling erection even tow days after. This was followed by a wonderful massage and sex. A real good experience it is clear she knows secrets that the western girls don't.
I staid with her for about one hour, when I paid her she said she wants 200 EUR, the massage is extra she claimed. I just gave her 150 and a kiss, she was happy. So about this girl, I will repeat but I will agree with her everything before including the massage subject.
After that I went back to my hotel very happy.
The Taxi driver who took me from the Palace to my hotel recommend me the fkk royal so if I will be there I will report.
Have fun
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I'm surprised that anyone would think that the absence of men at a club is irrelevant. If you go to a restaurant where the food is lousy and there are no other customers there is that just a coincidence and not worth mentioning in a review? I go to a restaurant for the food, not for the clientele, but the clientele tells me something about the restaurant.
Much love to my fans for their support.
West By Sun
04-26-09, 06:48
Angelika? Avelina? 25? Czech Republic
Overall 5, looks 10, chest D
This girl looks great but is cold and bitchy. She told me her name when we met, but afterwards when I didn’t remember it exactly she refused to tell me again.
Catalyst,
Thank you for your excellent report again.
The girl is Angelina. I have ever had a dozen sessions with her. She is gradually getting bitchy. I remember that right in the middle of our anniversary 10th sex, she gave me a sigh because I was a little bit difficult to finish. Maybe this girl works too hard.... I hope Karina stays nice....
WBS
Dear Catalyst
I'm sorry if I heart your feelings or other member feelings I didn't meant to.
But as I understand this forum is about to judge the working girls and not the clients, its not relevant if the clients are beautiful or not.
Despite the fantasy the fkk club is not the love boat, it is a BORDEL.
Any one from 18 to 100 can come pay 50EUR and fuck.
I'm 42 in very good shape and good looking, but sometimes we all see in the clubs 70somthing years German guy who come to fuck 19 years old beautiful girl.
I see it very natural and good thing.
Hopefully we all will become 70somthing and also will want to enjoy like we enjoy today without other judge us.
Enjoy
Esteemed members.
Ahem. Esteemed colleagues?
I will be visiting the promised land next week and plan to visit World and Palace. As a student of BBBJ's, most certainly have been making my notes from various posts in these forums over last few months.
If anyone has had a recent, extra special session within this category, please put forth any names, notes, descriptions etc.
OK, already have Linda Czech info.
Hopefully I will soon have my blackbelt in BBBJ, but need to rack up some more experience.
Thank you in advance for your assistance.
Strato
John Moore
04-26-09, 22:09
---Thursday 23rd April---
So at last I was going after months of research and dreaming. Got to the airport in good time and found out my plane was 10 minutes late, how dare they!! The plane was full and after an hour and 40 minutes we landed at Frankfurt Airport and man that's a big airport seemed like we taxied for ages and after that we had to go by bus to the terminal and then I just followed the signs saying TAXI until I found one and went to my hotel. Taking a cab ride in Germany is pretty special but I like going fast so no problem for me. At the hotel Mr Myrmidon. from this lovely forum was waiting and we had a quick chat before I checked in and just ran up to my room an threw my bag inside and then we went to The Palace which was a 40 second walk from my hotel "Fleming's Hotel".
FKK the Palace
Myrmidon had already been in to The Palace earlier that day so he just showed he's ID and re-enter, very nice that you could do that. It was pretty early, but why wait? about 2 o'clock we entered. A quick shower and then a walk around the place and I could finally relax. Hanged around for a bit and talked to some girls trying to look as I'd been there before, dont think I succeded to well though but I do know how to say no in a good way. Very calm day, not many guys and maybe 30 girls.
Cindy - Poland (Long, blonde, enhanced tits)
After awhile I got approached by the gorgeous Cindy from Poland, a tall blonde very beautiful girl with big enhanced tits. At that point I got some vibes that she might not be the best experience ever but I just didn't care cause I was ready to go and knew I wouldn't need much time. I saw her many times during the times I was at Palace and everytime I saw her thought that she was the sexiest girl in that place. Got into the room and lay on the bed and she started kissing and licking my privates a little bit and that was nice, she didn't suck it or anything and when it was time for that she putted on a condom, well that's a bummer but what to do? After some pretty good CBJ she lubed me up ang got on top, not to bad and she knew exactly how to read me and get in a position that I enjoyed the most. After that it was time for doggy and it didn't take long before I felt I had to finish and withdrew and she lay on her back and gave me a nice show as I jacked myself of.
Felt good afterwards but that FKK-feeling hadn't come yet though. Had a talk with Myrmidon and we compared notes and checked out the girls. Had a nice massage for half an hour and sat awhile in the chill out-area just by the massage place. A few girl approached me but as they didn't make me wanna go again I turned them down.
??? - Persian / German (Brunette, tanned, enhanced tits)
Until she whos name escapes me came. and first asked if she could sit with me which I think is a good start, rather then the other aggressive girls who just lay down on top of you and starts talking and sucking your ears and what not. She was really sexy, a real porn model body indeed and I though what the hell and we got a room. Sadly the attitude changed as we went into the room and it was all very mechanical and also she did CBJ. It was like the same session as I had with Cindy a few hours earlier, she on top, doggy, finish. I finished in the same way as with Cindy and this girl also gave me a good masturbation show. I felt pretty good that I had managed to come so easily this time to but still no FKK-feeling to be found.
After a shower I sat with Myrmidon again and we talked about the girls we been with and all sorts of stuff, very nice to have a friend there whom you can sit with and chit chat between the sessions. I like Palace in the sense that if you sit at a certain place you can see all the girls and customers passing by because they have to pass you to get to the safety boxes. Just looking at the guys faces and also do a little timing when you see a girl pick up a key and go with a guy to a room. I saw Cindy just go in and out of rooms with different guys all night. Busy as a beaver gets a new meaning. We also saw a stunning girl just grabbing guys and go of to a room for 10-15 minutes tops. Amazing. She was so sexy so if she had tried to grab me at the right moment I had gone with her even knowing she was a shark. Never talked to her and she avoided me both thursday and friday. Brown hair, the best body I've seen, fit and natural. Later that night I saw a stunning beauty, a tall brunette girl with nice firm enhanced tits, and a big angel wing tattoo on her back. As it had been a long day for both me and Myrmidon we both had enough and retired pretty early. I left my info at the reception if I'd wanted to come back later that night but I fel asleep almost instantly well at my hotel.
---Friday 24th April---
Had an appointment with another internet-buddy who lives just outside Frankfurt and he had promised me a tour of the town. We met at the Deutsche Börse by the famous Bear and Bull (or Bull and Bear) statue and he showed me all over town. Had a good 4 hour private tour with apfelwein-tasting and a look at the RLD. Very nice indeed. After that it was time to meet up with Myrmidon again and we went directly back to The Palace.
FKK the Palace
It was nice to go there and know the place a bit and this time we came in a bit later then before. About eight o'clock. I was very happy to see the girl from yesterday there, angel wings-tattoo girl. We exchanged looks and smiles and I was sitting right by the smoking lounge closest to the entrance and she was inside, just looking and smiling at me. I decided to try her out so I left the table and slowly started to walk towards the relax-area, half way there I feel a pat on my back and yes it was her.
Selina - Germany (Tall, dark hair, enhanced tits, angel wings-tattoo)
The normal chit chat occured and we went into a room, the red room apparently, it was her favourite room she said. And here came the feeling I was looking for earlier. The true FKK-feeling I've been ranting about. She was very sweet and did a good BBBJ and multiple positions before I finished. Ah, it was amazing. Had that warm feeling in my belly the whole evening and a big dumb smile to. Had another shower, this time by the relax-area as it was pretty busy at this point and the showers over at the locker rooms where full. Found it pretty convenient to take my showers there. Strange shower though. Warm cold warm coooooold warm and so forth. As many times before you feel like you're done and could just as well go back to the hotel and sleep but no you stay put and wait for the jucies to re-appear and they always do. The crowd kept growing but unfortunetly onle the male crowd grew. We saw a new girl being shown around by an Palce employee both thursday and friday. The girl that started at friday was a real stunner. Looked german, long, really small tits and a lip piercing. I was again feeling ready to go and wa searching for my next girl. Wasn't to much to chose from really but I have seen a very tiny petite easter looking girl that I really liked looking at. Got a vibe that she might be a shark but at that time I really didn't care. At first she was wearing just a piece of cloth around her waist and shoes, but later got more dressed and had both top and bottom on. I approached her by the bar and she said "meet here five minutes". Didn't really understand why at that point but then I saw her getting a piece of clothing and go on to the stage, eastern music turned on very loud and she started belly dancing. Now I understood why she where dressed. It was quite nice seeing this girl do her thing and to think - I'm gonna tap that ass in a few minutes. When she was finished she came over and we got a room.
Sa??? - Bulgaria (Short, middle eastern looking, teeny, small tits)
We got on to the bed and a condom was put on right away. While I was soft. She started to blow me and as my weiner grew inside the condom it was certain that this was a very small condom so what occurs was this, the condom didn't want to stay on. I tried to get it on over and over again, but she complained that it would break so after a while I just took it of and ordered her to just lie there and play with herself. She did and I came on a piece of paper. Amazed that I did cum with so shitty circumstances. The funny thing is that the rest of the evening when I saw her around she was looking at med flirting and smiling. Very strange.
It was now pretty late and as I felt quite finished and was thinking about the trip to Oase in the morning I decided to leave. Myrmidon wasn't quite finished so he stayed behind.
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Basketcase
04-27-09, 08:18
Hi John Moore,
Sorry I could not be around during your visit. I am trying to moderate the amount of times I go.
Loved your report and it is nice getting a first hand account of a premiere visit. You also did two days in a row there in Palace!! My salutations.
I am surprised about the covered blowjobs you were getting which seemed to be 3 out of 4 times. This does not bode well. I think I ever got one covered BJ at Palace and that was a shock to the system when that was pulled out of the bag (or wrapper) so to speak.
I am glad that you Oase visit went much better. Maybe if you went to Oase on your first day your impressions of FKKs in Hessen may be a lot different and achieve more of what you describe as the "FKK experience".
Keep cool,
Hi John.
Sounds like you had some "Amsterdam sessions" in Palace.
Much better value than Amsrterdam, but not what you came to Germany for.
I will now move on to the Oase thread.
Best Regards
Smuler
John Moore
04-27-09, 15:35
Glad you liked it.
Maybe next time because I will be back for sure. Soon. Well it wasn't all CBJ all the time with Selina. She started without and then got a condom on. I have missed a lot in my reports now when I think about it. Wrote it to quickly I think and I can't see any edit-buttons here.
Yes, oase a sunny day is more my style I must say, will try to get back there before this years summer months are over.
My impressions of the Hessen FKK's is great, but will as I said more concentrate on Oase and maybe World.
Hi John Moore,
Sorry I could not be around during your visit. I am trying to moderate the amount of times I go.
Loved your report and it is nice getting a first hand account of a premiere visit. You also did two days in a row there in Palace!! My salutations.
I am surprised about the covered blowjobs you were getting which seemed to be 3 out of 4 times. This does not bode well. I think I ever got one covered BJ at Palace and that was a shock to the system when that was pulled out of the bag (or wrapper) so to speak.
I am glad that you Oase visit went much better. Maybe if you went to Oase on your first day your impressions of FKKs in Hessen may be a lot different and achieve more of what you describe as the "FKK experience".
Keep cool,
Hessen Bub
04-28-09, 08:21
I found a gem here, but it seems that most of the girls offer mechanical sex with no kissing or charge extra for kissing. That would explain why it was so empty.
Denisa, 20?, Moldova, overall 10, looks 10, chest B
Absolutely fantastic. Super GFE/PSE.
Evely, 28?, Croatia, overall 5, looks 7, chest floppy A (sic.)
No kissing. Looks worse with her clothes off.
Sophie, 22?, German, overall 6, looks 9, chest C
Businesslike. Kissing is extra. AWE (Amsterdam wh-re experience).
Angelika? Avelina? 25? Czech Republic, overall 5, looks 10, chest D
Cold and crabby. No kissing. AWE.
With Denisa and Sophie I have had great GF6 experiences, kissing included, no extra charge at all. Evely(n) does also kiss, she's been around the clubs for a long long time. The only "no kisser" (not even for an extra charge) ist Angelica, Czech.
HB
..the only reason for that is that I monger very little in the last years since I was in a relationship.The very best of reasons. :-) Thanks for the report.
Dear Catalyst
I'm sorry if I heart your feelings or other member feelings I didn't meant to.
But as I understand this forum is about to judge the working girls and not the clients, its not relevant if the clients are beautiful or not.
Despite the fantasy the fkk club is not the love boat, it is a BORDEL.
Any one from 18 to 100 can come pay 50EUR and fuck.
I'm 42 in very good shape and good looking, but sometimes we all see in the clubs 70somthing years German guy who come to fuck 19 years old beautiful girl.
I see it very natural and good thing.
Hopefully we all will become 70somthing and also will want to enjoy like we enjoy today without other judge us.
Enjoy
Come to think of it, I have never been asked for an id. Do you suppose some really young looking bloke will be asked for an id to see if he is really 18?
This report is to be read in conjunction with my first report and overview of my trip on the Oase thread: 876460
Day Three:
Yet another sunny warm day dawned in Frankfurt. I was scheduled to meet with John Moore at his hotel, one of the Flemming hotels, next door to Palace shortly after mid-day. Since it was so close to the hotel, I decided to head to Palace for breakfast and then try their exit program and return with Moore. I travelled to Palace: Konigsbergerstr. 23 enter 75 euro -pricing -50 euro for 30min. From Hauptbanhof catch the U4 train (euro1.60) two stops to Bockenheimer Warte-then the westbound U6 or U7 train (either the blue line to Heerstrasse or the yellow one in direction Hausen) three stops to Industriehof. Cross the tracks to the west. There will be a high stone fence in front of you. Turn to the right and walk a half block and there will be an opening in the fence. This sidewalk leads to a well displayed Palace sign. If you want to make return train connections, you should leave by 11:30 pm. Taxi will cost between 10-15 euro.
I entered around 11AM and was treated to around 20 ladies (gazelles) and 8 -9 men (bears). There was not really that much going on at that hour as most everyone was partaking of the fine food put out. It was a well prepared spread.
While I was eyed by most of the ladies and a few did approach, it was nothing like the stampede at Oase. Early on though I did notice a Thai lady of unquestionable beauty enter and begin to pose by the stairs up to the upper level bar. (I will not attempt to describe the layout of Palace, it is too complicated. It is bigger than Oase, has no outdoor area but does have a pool / jacuzzi and sauna's. Both clubs have professional masseuers. The rooms are a little larger than at Oase and I like the kino better here. The ladies are equally compelling and beautiful as at Oase, if not as forward). The lady had a full back tattoo, so I surmised that she was Bee (Bea) who I had identified from my research as being a "Must do". I approached her and she began to giggle as we chatted. In no time she had me charmed and debating on going to a zimmer with her. I did not want to start too early, being conscious of my limited abilities, yet I thought an early start would give me more time to recuperate later. Finally I gave into her charms and we went into the kino, briefly before heading to a room. The lady has the most incredibly soft skin and a marvelous body. She is skilled and seems to really enjoy her work. We started off with the traditional BBBJ and carried on through the alphabet to the inevitable happy ending. I was most pleased with both myself and her. Cost: 50 euro.
After I left Bee I was determined to rest and fended off a couple of other ladies as I had to dress and meet John Moore. Later, upon reflection, I was extremely glad I went with Bee when I did, because upon our return we only saw her a couple of times and then just briefly as she was kept busy in the back. You snooze...you loose.
I brought out my iPod to check the lists. Everyone got very nervous that I might have a camera, which is strictly verboten. I was checked out by management and allowed to proceed, but since it was causing such a stir, I did not again refer to my iPod. On Friday night I did observe a bear in the rear smoking room with a laptop.
Before I carry on, I previously mentioned the ladies posing around the clubs. This was particularly noticeable at Palace. One lady in particular was very good at this. She was in her mid-20s, dark blonde, fair build and a very beautiful face. On the first night her hair was worn up, but both nights she wore pink socks and clear acrylic high heels. The second night her hair was worn down, and was a kinky mane, similar to Michelle's at Oase. She was beautiful and moved like a runway model. When she rested on the pillows around the lower stripper's pole, she was on her side with her hand on her hip and her legs bent to advantage. While I was completely smitten with her, I also noted that she was processing men at the rate of about 1 every 10 minutes. If one lasted longer than 10 minutes I missed it. Still, it would have been an interesting 10 minutes. Other ladies would sit and stare at you and on occasion I noted that some positioned themselves to leave a clear vantage point of interest that I was embarrassed to have missed, at first.
Another memorable moment occurred later that night at Palace, in the kino. I had previously noted this tall blonde woman, late 20's with her hair tied back in a pony tail, large bolt-ons and sporting black leather high heel boots that ran up to the top of her thighs. She had a slight over bite and when I spoke with her later, I noted her face was slightly freckled. Anyway, what happened was I peaked into the kino to check the action. This lady was laying on her back on the top level, propped up on her elbows, apparently watching the porno. Her legs were held skyward in a spectacular V with a milky while male butt bobbing in between as he dined on her. The image of her calmly watching the screen while he worked so hard is etched on my mind.
But back to my tale. Having succeeded with Bee and then fended off other comers for an hour or so I excused my self, got dressed and went next door to pick up John Moore. Exit was not problem, I simply provided my name which was noted on a signed slip that I was given. After meeting up with John we returned and because the absence was only about 1 hour I did not even need the slip I had been given.
We showered and returned to the hunt. I gave a brief tour to John and we were off. During the time we sat together we were approached individually and as a pair. The frequency of approaches did not appear to be all that affected by whether we were together or alone. Getting a little bored at the lack of activity we both booked massages with Sonja. Turned out to be one of the best things I did on the whole trip. The lady is a professional for 30 min for 30 euro released a lot of kinks out of my back. I even started to fall asleep for the first time since I arrived in Europe. I would highly recommend a massage during your visit, particularly if Sonja is available.
Over the course of the evening the numbers of gazelles and bears obviously increased. The problem this time was that after about 8 PM the bears seriously outnumbered the gazelles. This harmed the flavour of the hunt. Another distraction was the fact that the rooms were booked up, causing delays in sessions. This was an opportunity for us to watch the interaction between the gazelles and the bears as they waited. Some couples did not miss a beat and kept the petting up as they waited. The girls wanted the guys to stay hot and the guys did not want to cool off. But not all couples continued the action. Some just sat there, the girls nervously looking for someone returning a room key. These ladies were usually seen many times, over a short period of time, with men, and so were dismissed as not worth our attention.
I should also note that on both evenings we were at Palace a different new lady was being shown the ropes by management. The second one, on Friday night, caught our eyes and we observed that her sessions started out lengthy but quickly picked up the pace. Neither of us cared for the new ladies, so we did not approach them.
But back to Thursday. As I previously noted I had a 'To Do' List for both Oase and Palace. My Palace list had included Bee, whom I had already seen, and Kimmi, whom I would encounter on the second night. But at the top of my list was Indira. I had coveted this lady ever since I saw her photos on the Palace web site and she was identified by a poster. She had been favorably reviewed, and imagine my surprise and delight when I saw that her photos were prominently displayed at the outside entrance to Palace, to draw customers in. She was a major goal for me. John had started his evening well, but it had been a long dry spell for me since Bee that morning. Although there were many 7's - 10's in attendance, none lit that spark for me. We were seated outside the forward smoking room. I happened to glance into the room and was sure I saw the profile I had been waiting for!
I went in and introduced myself and asked her name. It was her. I asked her to join me for a session and she said she would as soon as she finished her cigarette. I agreed and left the room. Her hair was a bit shorter, still shoulder length and jet black and she had her distinctive eye make-up. I waited for what seemed an eternity and she did not appear. I looked in the smoking room and she was having a fresh cigarette. Oh. I waited again and finally she came out the door next to the hallway leading to the massage room. Instead, she made a bee-line for the upstairs bar. Ok, she was thirsty. As she approached the bar she did the Palace two-step with an approaching male customer. That is a maneuver used in the hallways or open floor where the girl keeps herself placed in front of the man, then she places her arm on his shoulder or around him and moves in for the kill. The fellow resisted and passed her by. I approached her, coming up the steps and asked if she had forgotten about me? She calmly said Yes. That's an ego boost. However I was so enamored that I continued and we went to a room. I should have seen the signs.
Once in the room, Indira was the only lady on my entire visit to point out the silly rules sign on the back of the door. I reiterated what I wanted and we carried on. Kissing was limited to LFK, but that was ok because she was a smoker, although she had refreshed her breath. In fact, it was like being with a nurse: she pulled out the sani-wipes for both herself and me. Can't fault hygiene. The session that followed was at best ok, BBBJ, LFK, DATY, multi-positions, but it lacked the chemistry I had had earlier with Bee or Michelle. In the end, it was no where near the session I had hoped for, but I could not really fault it. As soon as it was over she produced the bottle of Listerine for a mouth wash and spit into the towels. Hygiene was not a worry with this lady. Cost: 50 euro. She did confuse me though. She had been forgetful before the session, was completely lucid during the session and yet after the session when I saw her outside the room she was acting like she was under the influence of something. She threw herself at several men whom she appeared to know, perhaps regulars? In any event, this was the low point of my tour.
Earlier that evening I had been almost pawed to death by a brunette from Spain, Christina, who wore a yellow sash. She was pretty enough, had good d-cups and was really on top of me, but I dismissed her as overly pushy and a little bit heavy. After my disappointment with Indira I thought about Christina again but did not act on it this night. I decided to call it quits with 2 sessions that day, one great and one ok. Cost for today: Entrance 75 euro, ladies 100 euro (2 x 50).
Day 4 started with a remarkable Rhine River cruise and wine tasting tour. Most worthwhile and I arrived back in Frankfurt around 7 PM. John Moore, who had been touring the city and also it's Red Light District met up with me at my hotel and we returned to Palace.
We arrived early enough that there was no real crowd. The gazelle - bear ratio was still in our favour and there was a clear view of the floor. Most of the ladies from the night before were again on hand. Because this was our second night there, the gazelles were not as persistent as before. This was ok as we had already started to search for our favourites.
I was in the process of scanning the floor when I realized that a beautiful tan skinned maiden was standing right next to me looking at me. I introduced myself and learned that this was Kimmi from Brazil that I had read so many delightful things about. And may I say, she lived up to her advanced billing, unlike certain others I had recently met. What a way to get back into the hunt! We retired briefly to the kino and then to a room where she provided a delightful alphabet of service. It had been rumoured that she was charging extra for her legendary DFK, but I did not find this rumour to be true. She was truly a princess and I felt like a prince for the lordly sum of 50 euro.
I wanted my John to have a shot at Kimmi as well, but as was the case with Bee the day before, Kimmi was gone almost as soon as she had appeared, apparently the captive of some horny bear in the back. This was also a bit of an ego boost for me. However, it was to be my last hurray for a while. While John continued on his lustful way, I was apparently stymied by lack of spark with any of the other ladies! I warned John to protect me from doing something foolish out of desperation and he tried, but around midnight or so he left me to my own devises.
The last lady to arrive that night had been a tall attractive blonde with kinky hair. I seem to have a thing for that type. She had been highly mobile that night, flitting across the floor and usually engaged with a gentleman. But I knew she hung out by the upper bar. We had hung out by the smoking room and had a good view of things, so when she re-entered the room from the dining area I moved towards her. She seemed to stare right through me. I gave chase but she seemed to be avoiding me. I should have taken the hint, but I did not. I quickly positioned myself to intercept her as she emerged from the bar area to the jacuzzi area. I did the Palace two-step and practically tackled her. What she said next froze me in my tracks: "Vhat do you vant? I don't do it vall." I mumbled something incoherent and asked what she did not do and she replied no kissing or daty. Given her extreme beauty I think I could have overlooked this, but her restrictive attitude was only likely to get worse. So I thanked her and excused myself. Now I was really desperate.
I continued to hang around the upper bar and noticed Christina from the night before laying on the couch on the rear wall. I approached her and advised that now I was ready. Some light cuddling followed prior to our going off to a room. There was a little attempted upsell to a massage and more time, which I decined. This did not stop her from oiling herself up and doing a bodyslide on me, but it made licking her less attractive. I'm not sure if this was her usual level of service or if she was punishing me for taking so long to see her and refusing the massage, but the session was less than spectacular. Again, the alphabet was gone over and there was a happy ending, but again it was not in league with Michelle and Bee, or even Kimmi. Cost: 50 euro.
This was to be our final visit to Palace. Saturday I would introduce John Moore to Michelle at Oase and I expected that I would partake of it's (her) outdoor delights on Sunday as well. In summation: the Palace tends to be frowned on by senior board members who see it as a place with beautiful women who are out to quickly trim the herd. And that herd consists mostly of newbies like myself and messe (conventioneers) attendees. That is most likely true. But from my newbie perspective, I liked Palace. The food was very good, the facilities were very good. Legend has it that the showers at Palace are always cold. This was not the case for me. I always had a hot shower, first on the right as you enter. The ladies are stellar and if you take your time, you will be rewarded. I may be a newbie at Palace, but over all I was pleased: two great sessions and one good session and one let down, but still good clean session. Cost for this enjoyable 2 day experience? 75 euro twice for entrance and 50 euro four times for experiences that I enjoyed! Total: 350 euro. Plus train fare for the voyeuristic and physical experience of a life time. Money well spent, IMHO.
I would say that both of these clubs, Palace and Oase, have their good and bad points, good and bad ladies. This time I would prefer Oase because of Michelle and the outdoor garden. I was most disappointed with Indira at Palace, but Sonja's massage there was a life saver. I will have to try to return.
John Moore
05-01-09, 10:11
This report is to be read in conjunction with my first report and overview of my trip on the Oase thread: 876460
Day Three:
Yet another sunny warm day dawned in Frankfurt. I was scheduled to meet with John Moore at his hotel, one of the Flemming hotels, next door to Palace shortly after mid-day. Since it was so close to the hotel, I decided to head to Palace for breakfast and then try their exit program and return with Moore. I travelled to Palace: Konigsbergerstr. 23 enter 75 euro -pricing -50 euro for 30min.Thanks for this lovely post my friend. It's fun to read how you experienced it all and I do agree with you about the two clubs we visited. Good reading and good information. Now over to the Oase-part.
M P Lurker
05-01-09, 14:49
I was in the process of scanning the floor when I realized that a beautiful tan skinned maiden was standing right next to me looking at me. I introduced myself and learned that this was Kimmi from Brazil that I had read so many delightful things about. And may I say, she lived up to her advanced billing, unlike certain others I had recently met. What a way to get back into the hunt! We retired briefly to the kino and then to a room where she provided a delightful alphabet of service. It had been rumoured that she was charging extra for her legendary DFK, but I did not find this rumour to be true. She was truly a princess and I felt like a prince for the lordly sum of 50 euro.
I wanted my John to have a shot at Kimmi as well, but as was the case with Bee the day before, Kimmi was gone almost as soon as she had appeared, apparently the captive of some horny bear in the back. This was also a bit of an ego boost for me. However, it was to be my last hurray for a while. While John continued on his lustful way, I was apparently stymied by lack of spark with any of the other ladies! I warned John to protect me from doing something foolish out of desperation and he tried, but around midnight or so he left me to my own devises.
I'm happy to hear you had a good time with both Bee and Kimmi as I was seriously promoting these two as sure things and two of the very very nicest fun ladies in the Palace (as well as outstanding performance).
Looks like we both go for the racey built Gazelles.
But I always went looong time with these two.
30 mins was just too short for me, and Kimmi BBBJ with CIM specialist too.
John Layout
05-02-09, 09:07
Hello all,
Is it possible to ask girls to wear stockings for the session? I'm nylons lover. In this case I would bring stocking with me and take to the girl in locker room before session (of course, because of hygiene. Who know how meny times she weared their own)
Hello all,
Is it possible to ask girls to wear stockings for the session? I'm nylons lover. In this case I would bring stocking with me and take to the girl in locker room before session (of course, because of hygiene. Who know how meny times she weared their own)
I don't see why not. Just bring new ones in the original package (unopened). Just don't bring xxxxl when the girl is petite! A big plus is bringing nice ones and letting her keep them. I would not be surprised if she put them on just for you in your next session. Girls tend to remember these fetishes and use them to their advantage.
Vito Corleone
05-03-09, 04:53
In summation: the Palace tends to be frowned on by senior board members who see it as a place with beautiful women who are out to quickly trim the herd. And that herd consists mostly of newbies like myself and messe (conventioneers) attendees. That is most likely true. But from my newbie perspective, I liked Palace. The food was very good, the facilities were very good. Legend has it that the showers at Palace are always cold. This was not the case for me. I always had a hot shower, first on the right as you enter. The ladies are stellar and if you take your time, you will be rewarded.
Great report! Newbie or not, you are contributing much more than these so called senior members who trash Palace without a recent visit to the club. Yes, something happend 1 year ago when a Palace babe did not arrange the pillows or some crap they come up with.
I visited Palace 5 times recently & the lineup was much better than Oase (visited 2 days including a Friday). The lineup was so good (many of my ATF's were present), I did not bother with World (I visit World at least once every trip). Yes, most women € Palace do not kiss & there is a bit of hustle & flow. My ATF's provide the same GFE or sometimes better than the my regulars @ World & Oase. Rooms are big & always clean. The showers & lockers are also clean. A senior member will always mention that the locker room smelled bad for 10 minutes 6 months ago or wharever "hater" excuse they have, but the locker room in Oase always smell bad. The Oase rooms are always dirty, & their showers run hot & cold every 5-10 seconds. Food is no better than military rations. Other than a pretty good lineup (most of the time) & outdoor facilities, the place is a dump.
I know some board members who rave about an Oase provider who has cheated then into an anal session by ramming their cock in her ass without even asking if they wanted anal & they just shrugged their shoulder. This same provider tried this with me & was upset when I refused. Not sure how they would have reacted if this same cun't worked @ Palace.
Most board members (including me) visit Oase because of the women & just accept the fact that the place is just filthy! The board seems to ridicule anyone enjoys Palace & accepts the shark factor & etc.
I like Palace & will continue to visit the club. I wish you success on your future visits.
After a flight from Newark and getting upgraded to first class, I arrived at Frankfurt International Airport at 9 am on Thursday morning. Breezing through immigration, I soon picked up my bags and went to Europcar to picked up my car. At around 9:30, I was already out of the airport and on the streets of Frankfurt. My navigation system was working pretty good because I was at Palace at opening time, 10 am. I soon ate my 2nd breakfast of the day, my first being on the plane, and then had a girl named Elisabetta from Italy. After a nice session that ended with CIM--which is my weakness, and this is the only thing that I require each girl to do, I hit the food stand again to rest.
While resting in the Kino and watching a porno movie, in came Irena from Russia, one of the best oral girls in the place. Well a session that only included oral sex ended with another CIM. Afterwards, my jet lag hit me, and so I went to my hotel room. Prior to leaving Palace, I presented my passport so that I could have a stamped ticket in order to return later in the night, which I did at about 11:30 pm. After eating dinner and saying hello to one of the more friendly bar helps, Natasha, I had a session with a girl from Spain, Gabriella.
M P Lurker
05-03-09, 09:37
Great report! Newbie or not, you are contributing much more than these so called senior members who trash Palace without a recent visit to the club. Yes, something happend 1 year ago when a Palace babe did not arrange the pillows or some crap they come up with.
I visited Palace 5 times recently & the lineup was much better than Oase (visited 2 days including a Friday). The lineup was so good (many of my ATF's were present), I did not bother with World (I visit World at least once every trip). Yes, most women € Palace do not kiss & there is a bit of hustle & flow. My ATF's provide the same GFE or sometimes better than the my regulars @ World & Oase. Rooms are big & always clean. The showers & lockers are also clean. A senior member will always mention that the locker room smelled bad for 10 minutes 6 months ago or wharever "hater" excuse they have, but the locker room in Oase always smell bad. The Oase rooms are always dirty, & their showers run hot & cold every 5-10 seconds. Food is no better than military rations. Other than a pretty good lineup (most of the time) & outdoor facilities, the place is a dump.
I think you make some very good points here even if a little strong.
I have always liked the Palace ever since I was a newbie years ago. There has always been a more than adequate supply of really good girls, so the bad ones can be ignored. Its not necessary to try a lot of different girls when we have already collected many "dream girls".
Its worth reading the forum and talking to regulars at the club, specially the German ones, to get "sure thing" tips.
Even some girls give reliable opinions about other girls if you know them well. e.g. "That girl is hot looking but has no regular customers" (I wonder why?).
I particularly like the Palace because:
1. Many very pretty girls, particularly in the "model" category to my taste (I go for slim or at least in very good shape), and not keen on bolt-ons (O.K. if subtle job).
2. I don't get hassled by girls as much at the Oase and World. I find failing to make eye contact a quite effective method of avoiding girls that I wish to avoid. Works mostly.
3. Lack of smoke in the main room.
4. Sheer convenience of location. Not far away and easy U-Bahn trip from Hauptwache or simple connection to the U6/U7 line.
5. Food quality and variety is the best of the three, but this a minor consideration.
6. All girls that I liked, kissed just fine (even ones who said they don't)! I obviously like a GFE.
Many other things just don't come into it at all, as long as they are servicable, like the showers.
Its true some girls wear too much, but I avoid dessous days.
I did make the effort to go to other places for a change or to see extra special "super stars".
It would be nice if Palace had an international ATM inside, instead of having to go down the street to get more money. That's probably the only thing about Palace that annoys me just slightly. Of course I don't like it late at night on a when it gets too busy. That is time to go home.
P.S. I love it when events are on nearby. It seems to attract more of the best girls and early in the evening still not too busy.
Ekliges Lauern
05-03-09, 12:32
In summation: the Palace tends to be frowned on by senior board members who see it as a place with beautiful women who are out to quickly trim the herd. And that herd consists mostly of newbies like myself and messe (conventioneers) attendees. That is most likely true. But from my newbie perspective, I liked Palace. The food was very good, the facilities were very good. Legend has it that the showers at Palace are always cold. This was not the case for me. I always had a hot shower, first on the right as you enter. The ladies are stellar and if you take your time, you will be rewarded. I may be a newbie at Palace, but over all I was pleased: two great sessions and one good session and one let down, but still good clean session. Cost for this enjoyable 2 day experience? 75 euro twice for entrance and 50 euro four times for experiences that I enjoyed! Total: 350 euro. Plus train fare for the voyeuristic and physical experience of a life time. Money well spent, IMHO.
Many senior members like Palace very much. Vito, Ortos, HB and myself just to name a few. The Palace haters are a vocal lot, one prolific poster has stated he posts to promote clubs he likes. As Palace is not one of the clubs he likes (or visits), one can infer his posts on this thread are intend to promote the clubs he likes by trashing the competition.
If you like the place, don't be influenced by the haters. Go if you like it, don't go if you don't. Not because some senior members don't like the place.
Many senior members like Palace very much. Vito, Ortos, HB and myself just to name a few. The Palace haters are a vocal lot, one prolific poster has stated he posts to promote clubs he likes. As Palace is not one of the clubs he likes (or visits), one can infer his posts on this thread are intend to promote the clubs he likes by trashing the competition.
If you like the place, don't be influenced by the haters. Go if you like it, don't go if you don't. Not because some senior members don't like the place.
And some of us may like other clubs because we have had better experiences and feel that we can get more mileage for the money. It has nothing to do with trashing Palace, just expressing a personal preference for other clubs. This does not necessarily infer a desire to promote those over Palace.
Just as you are vocal in defending it, other senior members can be vocal in pointing out some of its pitfalls, so that first time visitors can go into their virgin visit with a better feel for the lay of the land. That's what this forum is for.
You're right on in giving this advice;"Go if you like it, don't go if you don't."
Let me add to that; It's best to visit a variety of clubs, and then via comparison, decide which works best for you. Don't limit yourself to a particular club, or refrain from visiting a particular club, just because senior members like or dislike it. Senior members put their towels on just like you do, can sometimes be grumpy, defensive and territorial, have no monopoly on wisdom and express their opinions based on their own experiences which will probably differ in any case from your own.
Seek and ye shall find, and in any case, have fun exploring.
Ekliges Lauern
05-05-09, 14:38
And some of us may like other clubs because we have had better experiences and feel that we can get more mileage for the money. It has nothing to do with trashing Palace, just expressing a personal preference for other clubs. This does not necessarily infer a desire to promote those over Palace.
Just as you are vocal in defending it, other senior members can be vocal in pointing out some of its pitfalls, so that first time visitors can go into their virgin visit with a better feel for the lay of the land. That's what this forum is for.
You're right on in giving this advice;"Go if you like it, don't go if you don't."
Let me add to that; It's best to visit a variety of clubs, and then via comparison, decide which works best for you. Don't limit yourself to a particular club, or refrain from visiting a particular club, just because senior members like or dislike it. Senior members put their towels on just like you do, can sometimes be grumpy, defensive and territorial, have no monopoly on wisdom and express their opinions based on their own experiences which will probably differ in any case from your own.
Seek and ye shall find, and in any case, have fun exploring.
Mostly agree, however there are tradeoffs with the clubs you prefer (widely discussed, won't repeat here as this is the Palace thread).
I could not agree more that one should try different types of clubs and see what one prefers.
Just for the record, when was your last visit to Palace?
M P Lurker
05-05-09, 16:03
Many senior members like Palace very much. Vito, Ortos, HB and myself just to name a few.
I think long time regulars at the Palace remain very comfortable there as there are plenty of superb known girls plus new girls to try when either very sure or willing to risk it. Many ordinary girls can be just ignored.
But the other clubs are worth going to for variety and to chase extra special girls like Czech Linda or Swiss Michelle, etc.
I know I am vastly different to other senior members as I am looking for super looks, lovely fun character, as well as super performance.
I known that many other senior members are not so fussed about looks.
Ekliges Lauern
05-05-09, 16:11
I think long time regulars at the Palace remain very comfortable there as there are plenty of superb known girls plus new girls to try when either very sure or willing to risk it. Many ordinary girls can be just ignored.
But the other clubs are worth going to for variety and to chase extra special girls like Czech Linda or Swiss Michelle, etc.
I know I am vastly different to other senior members as I am looking for super looks, lovely fun character, as well as super performance.
I known that many other senior members are not so fussed about looks.
You are not that different. BC and Vito both seem to be more focused on looks than some of the other senior members that are more comfortable at Bernds. I tend to fall somewhere in the middle as BC regards me as having broad tastes. I am also very partial to a large and varied selection of women (kid in a candy store effect).
If you are honest with yourself about what is important to you in the FKK Sauna experience it's pretty easy to find the clubs that suit your preferences.
BTW, Czech Linda started her FKK career at Palace <grin>.
Basketcase
05-05-09, 19:14
But the other clubs are worth going to for variety and to chase extra special girls like Czech Linda or Swiss Michelle, etc.
I known that many other senior members are not so fussed about looks.
Hey Soap Fan,
Czech Linda and Swiss Michelle were spotted at FKK Oase recently two days in a row.
Czech Linda looks divine either naked and in her street clothes when she comes into the club and when she leaves.
Czech Linda also seems to have a fondness for sitting in the whirl pool and it is fun watching her large ample breast float in the bubbling water as a jet blasts into your backside admiring the view as you sit in the pool too.
She seems to have a routine of doing a couple of stints in the whirl pool when the times are quieter.
Yes, I agree that some senior member tastes are quite broad or not fussed about the looks provided that the service level is there. My tastes have just not gone that far.
Then again maybe they have. I was doing a later twenties or early thirties ice cold queen had a big butt (too much junk in her trunk) and chunky legs and I did her twice in less than 4 hours. There is something to be said about broad women and a taste for them.
Cheers,
Just for the record, when was your last visit to Palace?
December.
Don't know when I'll go back. When in Hessen I usually migrate towards Oase, as I tend to get better mileage there than at World or Palace, even if it's a "bad" Oase night.
My Palace visits are too infrequent to really get a handle on what's going down. What I really need to do is visit when another ISGer with Palace smarts is there to serve as my "Palace for Dummies" guide.
Basketcase
05-05-09, 21:40
December.
Don't know when I'll go back. When in Hessen I usually migrate towards Oase, as I tend to get better mileage there than at World or Palace, even if it's a "bad" Oase night.
My Palace visits are too infrequent to really get a handle on what's going down. What I really need to do is visit when another ISGer with Palace smarts is there to serve as my "Palace for Dummies" guide.
My last visit was this month and my prior one was in December 2008.
I also do not know when I will go back to Palace. Maybe in 6 months time.
I also when I am in Hessen tend to migrate to Oase, but something recently has put me off Oase.
World also did not work for me. I experienced the sharkiness, the persistent sales pitches to get you to go to the room and the poor service levels at World too.
This then does not leave me much choice but NRW clubs.
I will do what I can to avoid going to Palace from now on again. I had a meet up at Palace this visit with an esteemed senior member so I had to make my stop at Palace.
Iseeu, I also had the benefit of visiting Palace with a bona fide ISG Palace lover and he is an expert on its line up. He was meant to provide me with the Palace smarts and thereby serve as my "Palace for Dummies" guide. Alas, no. The guy was so enarmored of the line up that in the all the time that I was in the club I saw him twice briefly for the sum total of 1 minute. Even then we had to wait until 04:25 before we left the club and the club closes at 04:00!
So I went with a Palace lover and I had two sessions and I did not pop in either of them because of the disastrous service and visuals (I was also trying to broaden my tastes as there really was nothing that took my fancy).
Cheers,
I also do not know when I will go back to Palace. Maybe in 6 months time.BC,
the trick may be to go early shift. My last experience of that was positive, very different atmosphere, you could pick your girls without too much stress. We should meet up.
So I went with a Palace lover and I had two sessions and I did not pop in either of them because of the disastrous service and visuals (I was also trying to broaden my tastes as there really was nothing that took my fancy).I'm a FKK newbie who wanted to make my first visit this summer, but after reading some of the recent reports (of CBJ, average looking girls, etc.) I don't think it's worth making an eight hour flight over. Hopefully things will change for the better.
Vito Corleone
05-06-09, 00:49
My last visit was this month and my prior one was in December 2008.
I also do not know when I will go back to Palace. Maybe in 6 months time.
I also when I am in Hessen tend to migrate to Oase, but something recently has put me off Oase.
I will do what I can to avoid going to Palace from now on again. I had a meet up at Palace this visit with an esteemed senior member so I had to make my stop at Palace.
Iseeu, I also had the benefit of visiting Palace with a bona fide ISG Palace lover and he is an expert on its line up. He was meant to provide me with the Palace smarts and thereby serve as my "Palace for Dummies" guide. Alas, no. The guy was so enarmored of the line up that in the all the time that I was in the club I saw him twice briefly for the sum total of 1 minute. Even then we had to wait until 04:25 before we left the club and the club closes at 04:00!
So I went with a Palace lover and I had two sessions and I did not pop in either of them because of the disastrous service and visuals (I was also trying to broaden my tastes as there really was nothing that took my fancy).
Cheers,
Wassup BC,
I wouldn't call myself an expert on the Palace lineup. HB is the guru. Both times we saw each other, I was walking to the lockers & taking a small break from long sessions with 2 of my ATF's. I think the sum total was more like 30 seconds.
I returned from my last session @ 4:10am & it took around 15 minutes to take a [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140), shower, towel dry & change. I had 3 really long sessions with 3 of my ATF's. Marina from Cuba, Denisa & Mona from Romania.
If I remember correctly, you could not pop with the first girl because of some stage fright in the kino. Not quite sure what you were looking for, but I saw around 5-6 stunners that I did not have time to try. You needed around 7-8 hrs to finally decide on your first session @ the other clubs we visited.
Ekliges Lauern
05-06-09, 03:24
December.
Don't know when I'll go back. When in Hessen I usually migrate towards Oase, as I tend to get better mileage there than at World or Palace, even if it's a "bad" Oase night.
My Palace visits are too infrequent to really get a handle on what's going down. What I really need to do is visit when another ISGer with Palace smarts is there to serve as my "Palace for Dummies" guide.
OK, fair enough. Then I think you have a right to comment on the place. My objection is those that have either never been or it has been over 5 years.
Key to Palace is girl selection. This is not a "throw a dart" place. I select girls by observing how they interact with the gents, how often do they session (baselined against their appearance), does the gent look happy, etc. Ortos' method is more an interactive, test the chemistry approach. As with any club, you will get better service if you are recognized as a regular visitor and have repeat sessions with some ladies.
The Kino is the friend of the informed customer. I've selected many a girl after observing how she interacted with another customer. I also think whoever suggested going during the day or early evening was spot on. If on my own, I usually arrive around 4PM, have one session before dinner, another between 1st and second dinner and one before midnight. I avoid the period immediately after dinner as everyone seems to want to go to the room all at the same time between 30 and 60 minutes after dinner is served.
I think the key to enjoying Palace is to get a good girl selection system and stick with it.
Then again, if other clubs work better for you, no real sense in going there. Might be better if you didn't go to Palace.
Hessen Bub
05-06-09, 09:44
But the other clubs are worth going to for variety and to chase extra special girls like Czech Linda or Swiss Michelle, etc.
I know I am vastly different to other senior members as I am looking for super looks, lovely fun character, as well as super performance.
I known that many other senior members are not so fussed about looks.
You are talking about super looks and then you mention Michelle in the same sentence? ;-) Doesn't work for me. I do go for super looks, but Michelle and Linda are not in my scheme.
And I do visit other clubs on a regular basis: Paradise, World, Oase, Royal, GT, Artemis and and and. I still like Palace.
HB
I'm a FKK newbie who wanted to make my first visit this summer, but after reading some of the recent reports (of CBJ, average looking girls, etc.) I don't think it's worth making an eight hour flight over. Hopefully things will change for the better.
Sir: not to flaunt my own success recently, but in light of your comments, may I suggest you read my report: 876469 BTW, my flight took almost 16 hours and I would do it in a moment. The link to the Oase post is included in this link. Plse rethink your decision.
M P Lurker
05-06-09, 16:34
You are talking about super looks and then you mention Michelle in the same sentence? ;-) Doesn't work for me. I do go for super looks, but Michelle and Linda are not in my scheme.
And I do visit other clubs on a regular basis: Paradise, World, Oase, Royal, GT, Artemis and and and. I still like Palace.
HB
I agree that Michelle is not super looking but I can make exceptions for famous big stars. In fact only a few Oase girls were super looking to me.
Looks wise, Linda is very good looking to me. Normally I am not a big tit man, but Linda is such a lovely girl, I can enjoy big tits too.
I hope you like Brazil Kimmi. She is super looking to me.
Hessen Bub
05-06-09, 17:51
I hope you like Brazil Kimmi. She is super looking to me.
Deal. Pretty face, great body.
HB
And I do visit other clubs on a regular basis: Paradise, World, Oase, Royal, GT, Artemis and and and. I still like Palace.
HB
Tell us more about Royal. It's located in Maintal, right? How does the line-up compare to, say, Oase or World or Palace in terms of quality and quantity? Any known girls fromt he Hessen 3 work there now? Is it worth talking about the Hessen 4 now, or at least Hessen 3.5? Just wondering...
Ortos
Basketcase
05-07-09, 01:13
BC,
the trick may be to go early shift. My last experience of that was positive, very different atmosphere, you could pick your girls without too much stress. We should meet up.
Toscana,
Thank you for the offer, that is really thoughtful, but I will decline.
Palace is off the trip schedule for me. I do have Palace pencilled in for future visits but these are due to meet ups with regular travel companions rather than of my own volition. As such on these pre-planned days I may end up taking a free day and seeing the city or ducking out altogether.
I have been to Palace on early shift in 2008 and they were fine but since my visits in the latter part of 2008 and into 2009 I have been put off Palace. In the main it has been the propaganda read on this forum but also from my experiences. I also feel bad enticing a good friend to come visit Palace for his debut experience at Palace and he came away cursing the place not wanting to ever return.
Also the last two visits to Palace I was struggling to find girls with the look that I like. Angelina (Czech) and Gina (Czech) are good lookers but their services leave a lot more to be desired. Angelina does not kiss or allow muschi licking but does most other services as there are fees involved. Gina does kiss and allow muschi licking but generally only if you upgrade to the €100 for a half hour session. Apart from that I have few girls that I can recall that float my boat. Even Yulia (Ukraine/Romania) was not to be seen. I did spot Irina (Russia) who does a spectacular blow job but we kept missing each other but even then she is not quite my type.
I took Ruby (Hungary) in the kino as Vito Corleone says but I did that as I was caved with the constant attention to session from her and did her in the kino. Half way through the session I knew that I was not going to finish but kept going to see if I could eventually get there. I then did the "stage fright" excuse to stop the session and declined to go to the room as offered by Ruby. There was a cohort of Italiani laughing and giggling like teenagers watching me fuck Ruby as well as a trio of Deutsch looking sombrely at my performance probably marking me out of 10 and a troupe of Japanese looking bewildered at someone brazenly baring his arse to the world whilst fucking in the kino. Yes, there was a bit of stage fright involved but until then I was doing fine.
Further, what really killed it was that Ruby was doing a fine BBBJ and I was relaxed enough to splatter my baby batter in her mouth when she stops a few sucks away from me coming and jumps up to go collect her towel from another part of the kino.
My other session was with Denisa (Romania) a skinny blond girl who hassled me constantly for a session really working her act and promising me the time of my life and the best service in the Palace house. In the room, Denisa gave pretty indifferent service, getting straight down to business and then asked if I was going to come after 11 minutes. The session ended at the 15 minutes mark with her not showing any inspiration to continue.
Full Palace trip report to come.
Similar experiences were also encountered at World with Mara (Romania) and Sabrina (Romania). Full World report to come.
My experiences at Golden Time and Oase were excellent with good service and memorable experiences. Golden Time and Oase trip reports to come.
Maybe I do not go to Palace or World enough to get the Stammgast service but then I do not see the point of spreading my limited resources to devote to creating that Stammgast status at Palace and World when those scarce resources seem to do fine enough in Oase and Golden Time. There is a financial krise going on and as consumers we have a choice on where we spend our descretionary currency. I may as well go where I can get the better bang for the buck for me in my opinion. YMMV.
I do not discourage anyone else from going to Palace but I have once again experienced a less than salubrious visit. At least I went and visited. Many others just read this forum or thread and decide not to go.
Basketcase
05-07-09, 01:25
I'm a FKK newbie who wanted to make my first visit this summer, but after reading some of the recent reports (of CBJ, average looking girls, etc.) I don't think it's worth making an eight hour flight over. Hopefully things will change for the better.
Macphisto,
Please, do make your trip to Germany and spend your hard earned currency on Palace girls. If not then at least get over to Oase or World although I would tend towards Oase for the general overall better service that I have experienced.
I just did not find very much appealing to me at Palace. I am picky. I like optifucks that give crap service. At Palace I did not really see much I liked in the optifuck department and the ones I did like, I knew really gave deplorable service. The women were beautiful but did not float my boat. It felt a more business like environment there and the girls gave off that vibe.
Please note the overriding rider to all this is that this in my experience and in my opinion. Others like Vito Corleone, Hessen Bub, Ortos and Ekliges Lauern get the time of their lives at Palace. I just have not got that same loving feeling. Maybe you will experience the best time of your life. You will never know unless you actually make the trip.
Go to Germany and visit Palace and please do re-count your story on this forum and give us your opinion whether postive, negative or indifferent.
Ekliges Lauern
05-07-09, 03:32
I'm a FKK newbie who wanted to make my first visit this summer, but after reading some of the recent reports (of CBJ, average looking girls, etc.) I don't think it's worth making an eight hour flight over. Hopefully things will change for the better.
Well, some of the mongers that have been doing the Germany FKK/Sauna scene for quite a while and have become hypercritical. Let me state that the worst P4P experience I have had in a German FKK or Sauna has exceeded the best P4P I have had in the US. I've been rather critical of the looks/age of the Bernds ladies. Let me be perfectly clear. I would rather spend a day at Bernds than indulge in any P4P options in the US. So by all means, get on a plane and see for yourself.
As far as CBJ, I have had exactly one woman in an FKK/Sauna setting in Germany try to do a CBJ on me in the last 5 years. I explained to her that that was a deal breaker for me and she went ahead with the BBBJ.
As far as average looking women goes, I give you my personal guarantee that you will feel like a kid in a candy store when you walk into any of the Hessen big 3. I would ask you, if you had to make a trade off between an average looking girl who gives great service and an absolutely stunning girl who gives average service, which would you choose. There are tradeoff and depending on preferences, some clubs may work better than other clubs for you. If you are honest about what is more important to you, the Germany FKK/Sauna scene is as close to risk free as it comes.
... Let me state that the worst P4P experience I have had in a German FKK or Sauna has exceeded the best P4P I have had in the US. I've been rather critical of the looks/age of the Bernds ladies. Let me be perfectly clear. I would rather spend a day at Bernds than indulge in any P4P options in the US. So by all means, get on a plane and see for yourself.
As far as average looking women goes, I give you my personal guarantee that you will feel like a kid in a candy store when you walk into any of the Hessen big 3. I would ask you, if you had to make a trade off between an average looking girl who gives great service and an absolutely stunning girl who gives average service, which would you choose. There are tradeoff and depending on preferences, some clubs may work better than other clubs for you. If you are honest about what is more important to you, the Germany FKK/Sauna scene is as close to risk free as it comes.
Here, Here, I heartily agree. I have only one trip under my belt, but I know the feeling of which you speak: I imagine the worst experience with the worst woman at either Palace or Oase is still 10x better than the best experience I could possible have here in N.A.! Sometimes it upsets me to see the members of this board arguing amongst themselves, like spoiled little boys trying to decide who's golden pony is shinier, while I sit on the sidelines with NO pony. If they had my options and I had their's.... And I felt like a kid in a candystore at both Oase and Palace. Watching the ladies pose and strut at Palace and lounge around Oase's garden...it get's my juices going just thinking about it. I know of no experience in N.A. that even comes close.
Hessen Bub
05-07-09, 09:41
Tell us more about Royal. It's located in Maintal, right? How does the line-up compare to, say, Oase or World or Palace in terms of quality and quantity? Any known girls fromt he Hessen 3 work there now? Is it worth talking about the Hessen 4 now, or at least Hessen 3.5? Just wondering...
Maintal, correct. In German boards is referred to as "McRoyal". That fits quite well: If Palace, Oase or World are a fine dining restaurant, then Royal is a fast food location. Hardware is very basic, rather small, nothing I would like to spend moret than 2 or 3 hours at. I never did. Come, fuck, go or maybe drive-by and fuck.
Entrance is 15 EUR plus one beverage, prices are moderate, around 3 EUR for a drink. There's between 10 and 20 girls, some of them have been at the Hessen three already (Ionella e.g. and others).
So - try it out, if you have a day with only 2 or 3 hours to spend.
HB
Hessen Bub
05-07-09, 11:34
I forgot: www.fkk-royal.de
And some videos:
http://preview.ladies.de/video/index.php?videoid=251640
http://preview.ladies.de/video/index.php?videoid=251417
http://preview.ladies.de/video/index.php?videoid=251417
HB
Here, Here, I heartily agree. I have only one trip under my belt, but I know the feeling of which you speak: I imagine the worst experience with the worst woman at either Palace or Oase is still 10x better than the best experience I could possible have here in N.A.! Sometimes it upsets me to see the members of this board arguing amongst themselves, like spoiled little boys trying to decide who's golden pony is shinier, while I sit on the sidelines with NO pony. If they had my options and I had their's.... And I felt like a kid in a candystore at both Oase and Palace. Watching the ladies pose and strut at Palace and lounge around Oase's garden...it get's my juices going just thinking about it. I know of no experience in N.A. that even comes close.
Hey Myrmidon,
True enough. I'll grant you that I would never expect, nor would I look for a similar p4p experience in the US on the level of what one finds in the FKKs.
However I can promise you that if you continue to make journeys across the pond to partake of Germany's Käufliche Liebe, then you too will find that your standards and expectations will alter. For better or for worse, this has happened to myself and several others I know who engage in this hobby.
These generally are not "spoiled little boys" who are arguing their points or stating their opinions. They are people who have their ideas and expectations and with all due respect, it is a bit too dismissive to characterize them in such a fashion.
Personally I don't interpret most of the critiques on this board as "hypercritical." However in contrast to my buddy Ortos, I could live without some of the snippyness. Sometimes it's entertaining; often it's just plain tired.
Most Gents on this board take the time and effort to post a positive or negative critique for a good reason, and though your experiences and perceptions may not be in accord with what is stated (which is perfectly fair) those opposing views may have some validity somewhere down the road.
Have said all that, I couldn't agree more that with what has been said regarding the false perception about the FKK scene that a typical "newbie" could get from reading many of these reports. There's no need to dismiss this particular paid-sex "genre" just because several players here police its standards.
In my line of work I tend to be rather critical of the development of a product and the product itself. This does not mean that the end result is worthless or even unsatisfactory. There is really no difference when all these guys are constantly assaying their hobby.
Enjoy,
Dedalus
Hey Myrmidon,
True enough. I'll grant you that I would never expect, nor would I look for a similar p4p experience in the US on the level of what one finds in the FKKs.
However I can promise you that if you continue to make journeys across the pond to partake of Germany's Käufliche Liebe, then you too will find that your standards and expectations will alter. For better or for worse, this has happened to myself and several others I know who engage in this hobby.
These generally are not "spoiled little boys" who are arguing their points or stating their opinions. They are people who have their ideas and expectations and with all due respect, it is a bit too dismissive to characterize them in such a fashion.
Personally I don't interpret most of the critiques on this board as "hypercritical." However in contrast to my buddy Ortos, I could live without some of the snippyness. Sometimes it's entertaining; often it's just plain tired.
Most Gents on this board take the time and effort to post a positive or negative critique for a good reason, and though your experiences and perceptions may not be in accord with what is stated (which is perfectly fair) those opposing views may have some validity somewhere down the road.
Have said all that, I couldn't agree more that with what has been said regarding the false perception about the FKK scene that a typical "newbie" could get from reading many of these reports. There's no need to dismiss this particular paid-sex "genre" just because several players here police its standards.
In my line of work I tend to be rather critical of the development of a product and the product itself. This does not mean that the end result is worthless or even unsatisfactory. There is really no difference when all these guys are constantly assaying their hobby.
Enjoy,
Dedalus
You're quite correct, I spoke hastily. When you have something that is as good as the FKK's it is only natural to wish to compare and 'rank' them but we are all individuals and therefore it is an individual taste thing, not to mention the YMMV thing is still in play with the ladies. For these two reasons there will never be total agreement, nor should there. That is what keeps us sharp and interested. Thank you for your comments. Just sign me:
Jealous and Sitting on the outside Lookin' in.
Maintal, correct. In German boards is referred to as "McRoyal".
There's between 10 and 20 girls, some of them have been at the Hessen three already (Ionella e.g. and others).
HB
Hey HB,
Is the "Ionella" the German girl "Onella" that used to work in Oase 3- 4 years ago? I could see myself spending a couple hours with her alone ... ;-)
You're quite correct, I spoke hastily. When you have something that is as good as the FKK's it is only natural to wish to compare and 'rank' them but we are all individuals and therefore it is an individual taste thing, not to mention the YMMV thing is still in play with the ladies. For these two reasons there will never be total agreement, nor should there. That is what keeps us sharp and interested. Thank you for your comments. Just sign me:
Jealous and Sitting on the outside Lookin' in.
Hey Man,
I understand. Back in my youth I figured nothing would ever compare to my first Florida Spring Break experience. Walking into my first FKK club way back when (Dolce Vita) was like getting hit upside the head with a bag of boulders.
Today, on many levels walking into places like Palace, Oase, World, GT, LR etc. make that experience pale by comparison. But that first Dolce Vita and first Babylon experience will always be kinda special. BTW, Babylon back in the day could hold court head to head with any club on the map nowadays.
Palace has stirred up a lot of lively discussion and disagreement the past few years. I haven't been there since February so my take may not be as current as some. I would venture a guess that apart from Hessen Bub, I might have walked through its doors more than other members of this board since it opened.
While I have my problems with the place, I've never called for a boycott and there's no reason not to visit the place and make up one's own mind. There is a handful of great providers who are also top-notch in terms of looks. a couple of my favorite Top-Acts in the biz ply their trade at Palace. I do have my issues with the overall service attitude at Palace, but that is just my take. Other well meaning and no less sincere folks on this board may (and have) disagree.
Cheers,
Dedalus
Ekliges Lauern
05-07-09, 22:05
Hey Man,
I understand. Back in my youth I figured nothing would ever compare to my first Florida Spring Break experience. Walking into my first FKK club way back when (Dolce Vita) was like getting hit upside the head with a bag of boulders.
Today, on many levels walking into places like Palace, Oase, World, GT, LR etc. make that experience pale by comparison. But that first Dolce Vita and first Babylon experience will always be kinda special. BTW, Babylon back in the day could hold court head to head with any club on the map nowadays.
Palace has stirred up a lot of lively discussion and disagreement the past few years. I haven't been there since February so my take may not be as current as some. I would venture a guess that apart from Hessen Bub, I might have walked through its doors more than other members of this board since it opened.
While I have my problems with the place, I've never called for a boycott and there's no reason not to visit the place and make up one's own mind. There is a handful of great providers who are also top-notch in terms of looks. a couple of my favorite Top-Acts in the biz ply their trade at Palace. I do have my issues with the overall service attitude at Palace, but that is just my take. Other well meaning and no less sincere folks on this board may (and have) disagree.
Cheers,
Dedalus
Thank you for the thoughtful response.
When I used the word "hypercritical", was referring to myself as well as other senior members.
At the risk of being pretentious, I think we tend to discuss FKKs and women a little like wine afficiandos. While the subtle and not so subtle differences are subject to disagreement, to the uninitiated, it probably doesn't matter as they really should be trying different vintages to see what they like and gain experience.
BTW, I'm kind of flattered to be referred to as Eugene O'Neill on amphetimines.
Vito Corleone
05-07-09, 22:50
Deal. Pretty face, great body.
HB
& a really long tongue!
Vito Corleone
05-07-09, 23:16
There is a handful of great providers who are also top-notch in terms of looks. a couple of my favorite Top-Acts in the biz ply their trade at Palace. I do have my issues with the overall service attitude at Palace, but that is just my take. Other well meaning and no less sincere folks on this board may (and have) disagree.
Cheers,
Dedalus
Wassup Consiglieri,
I visited Palace 5 times last trip & I could not find Maria. I was hoping to rekindle the fire with her again. Daniella was there looking hot & constantly busy.
I have about 5-6 ATF's, but I am not in denial of the notorious overall service attitude & sharks @ Palace. I tried 2 new girls & both were bad sessions. I forgot their names, but both were super hot babes with smokin bods. Hungarian & Romanian. They mentioned the typical 50E suck & fuck only & etc. I knew the sessions were going to be crap, but I just had to do the good old in & out. Both stopped @ 20 minutes & told me I had to pay more to continue or CIM. I told both I would CIM. @ 28 minutes I jumped out of bed, grabbed my robe & out of the room. Both demanded 100E because they had to work hard, but I stood my ground. I ended up getting a really good 8 minute bj from both.
I usually stick to my regulars & Palace can be a bit of a hustle. I will occasionally make a deal with the devil & spend 50E on a crappy session with a stunning woman with a great bod.
Wassup Consiglieri,
I visited Palace 5 times last trip & I could not find Maria. I was hoping to rekindle the fire with her again. Daniella was there looking hot & constantly busy.
I have about 5-6 ATF's, but I am not in denial of the notorious overall service attitude & sharks @ Palace.
Greetings Don Vito,
My respects to you. It was a short yet profitable meeting a few weeks ago. I hope that your decision to pursue "business" interests up north with the Golden Time families proved to be profitable. I can tell you that despite a better than average day at the house of the "Angeli dell'inferno" your decision to do "business" up north was a wise one.
Indeed, one has to have a bit of luck to catch Santa Maria. Weekends are best and that is no guarantee. Still a winner!!!
Last time I saw Daniella was at Paradise a few months ago. She was doing the Palace-Paradise-Artemis working tour with a few other girls.
Till next time.
Cheers,
Dedalus
BTW, I'm kind of flattered to be referred to as Eugene O'Neil on amphetimines.
Mamma always said that flattery knows no excesses.
The compliment was genuine. I often gravitate toward the realists.
Cheers,
Dedalus Laughed
I tried 2 new girls & both were bad sessions. I forgot their names, but both were super hot babes with smokin bods. Hungarian & Romanian. They mentioned the typical 50E suck & fuck only & etc. I knew the sessions were going to be crap, but I just had to do the good old in & out. Both stopped @ 20 minutes & told me I had to pay more to continue or CIM. I told both I would CIM. @ 28 minutes I jumped out of bed, grabbed my robe & out of the room. Both demanded 100E because they had to work hard, but I stood my ground. I ended up getting a really good 8 minute bj from both.
PRICELESS!!
Fellas, the Don has spoken. Make em an offer dey can't refuse, stuff em with your salami, make em work really hard to get de bucks, den put a horse's head in de bed!
This is one of the funniest things that I have ever read on this board. Should be written up in the "How to F*ck Scammers" guide book. LOL
Vito Corleone
05-08-09, 00:04
I took Ruby (Hungary) in the kino as Vito Corleone says but I did that as I was caved with the constant attention to session from her and did her in the kino.
My other session was with Denisa (Romania) a skinny blond girl who hassled me constantly for a session really working her act and promising me the time of my life and the best service in the Palace house. In the room, Denisa gave pretty indifferent service, getting straight down to business and then asked if I was going to come after 11 minutes. The session ended at the 15 minutes mark with her not showing any inspiration to continue.
Was Ruby really pretty, tall about 5'9 with natural C cups?
I think I spent around 3 hrs with Denisa the same night & she gives off the hook service. DFK multiple sex positions & very flexible. Plenty of sexual stamina & never asks when I am going to cum. I must have worn her out!
"The time of your life & the best service in the Palace house." LOL. Denisa is one of my ATF's, but only a newbie should fall for that line. The fact that she constantly hassled you while working her act should have raised red flags!
Vito Corleone
05-08-09, 00:19
PRICELESS!!
Fellas, the Don has spoken. Make em an offer dey can't refuse, stuff em with your salami, make em work really hard to get de bucks, den put a horse's head in de bed!
This is one of the funniest things that I have ever read on this board. Should be written up in the "How to F*ck Scammers" guide book. LOL
I do this everytime someone tries to stop the session early. Stopping the session then demanding more money to continue kills my mojo & another 8-10 minutes of bj will not make me cum. I do not just lay on the bed & receive a bj. You really have to sell it. I know she is only thinking about the extra 50E, so I tell her something like this feels really good, keep going I am going to cum, oh my god this is really great, keep working the head, oh I'm going to cum soon & etc. While I am saying everything she wants to hear, I am constantly checking my watch. I do not think the scammer would be very enthusiastic if I acted like I was waiting in line @ the DMV. My favorite line is "Don't Stop, Believin'."
Maybe this is one of the reasons Palace does not bother me as much as others. I have done this @ the other big clubs, but mostly @ Palace.
Vito Corleone
05-08-09, 01:16
Greetings Don Vito,
My respects to you. It was a short yet profitable meeting a few weeks ago. I hope that your decision to pursue "business" interests up north with the Golden Time families proved to be profitable. I can tell you that despite a better than average day at the house of the "Angeli dell'inferno" your decision to do "business" up north was a wise one.
Indeed, one has to have a bit of luck to catch Santa Maria. Weekends are best and that is no guarantee. Still a winner!!!
Last time I saw Daniella was at Paradise a few months ago. She was doing the Palace-Paradise-Artemis working tour with a few other girls.
Till next time.
Cheers,
Dedalus
My respects Genco,
Thank you for setting up the meeting with 5 families. We need to do it more often. The trip north was a great success. My meetings the week after with the other capo regimes were also a great success.
Hessen Bub
05-08-09, 07:44
Hey HB,
Is the "Ionella" the German girl "Onella" that used to work in Oase 3- 4 years ago? I could see myself spending a couple hours with her alone ... ;-)
Nope. Ionella is Romanian and sweet 18, so I hope 3-4 years ago you did not see her @ Oase. ;-)
HB
M P Lurker
05-09-09, 09:17
Daniella was there looking hot & constantly busy.
Thanks for that. After many years, I still like Daniella and will look out for her. She's not my No. 1 favourite, but that hot bottom still draws the this bear to the honey.
Hessen Bub
05-09-09, 11:54
Daniela is working Palace and Paradise, you have to be lucky to meet her.
HB
M P Lurker
05-09-09, 17:33
Daniela is working Palace and Paradise, you have to be lucky to meet her.
HB
Been lucky enough to meet her several times already.
Went to World for Linda and got lucky there too.
Basketcase
05-10-09, 10:48
Links to the other days of the trip:
Golden Time 880160
World 880161
Oase 880162
Oase 880163
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***SUMMARY ***
*****DAY 1*****
*****FKK PALACE*****
Arrived 22:30
Departed 04:25
Hours in the club: 6 hours
Entritt: €75
*Ruby (Hungary) brunette €50
BBBJ, Multiple sex positions: RCG, Missionary and doggie sex, session finished on my election.
*Denisa (Romania) blonde €50
Denisa provides BBBJ for 10 minutes only then she gives up. Session finished on Denisa’s election.
Highlight: Doing a Kino session that included sex as I do not do it often. I mainly just go for the blasen start in the Kino.
Total spend in the club: €175 over 6 hours.
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**GETTING TO FKK PALACE**
My flight with Lufthansa was scheduled to arrive 21:30 into Frankfurt am Main Terminal 1, but arrived at 21:20. By 21:25, I was through immigration control and pass customs security quickly as the queues were short at this hour and without any mishaps. My flight cost €131.77 return and was booked in December 2008.
I took two tranches of cash from the Deutsche bank ATM to add to my starting stake bought across from the Isles. We do not want Marlow having a go that Timmy Tourist foreigner going to the clubs short of cash and trying it on with the girls so as not to pay them. You will not find that happening with this Timmy Tourist.
I headed to the Bahnhof and was on the platform 1 by 21:38. The first S8 train into Frankfurt am Main that was scheduled was 10 minutes away so I took my time to buy a ticket to Frankurt centre for €3.70 one way. After waiting 9 minutes it was flashed on the count down screen that the S8 was cancelled and we had to wait for the next S8 which would be another 10 minutes later. My plans are shaken by this unexpected delay in the train schedule because of a cancellation. I continued to wait. The platform 1 got quite crowded as more travelers and Frankfurt airport workers finishing work and wanting to go home continued to congregate on the platform awaiting the next train.
Finally at 21:58 the S8 arrived and I took the 16 minute ride into Hauptwache arriving at 22:14. I then changed for the U6 to Praunheim Heerstrasse going for 6 stops until Industriehof in Hausen. Getting off the platform in the direction of the U6 train, I crossed the tracks and crossed the road towards the head high copper coloured wall and walked northwards until you come to the gap in the copper coloured wall. You turn into the gap in the wall and walk straight ahead pass the roundabout and keep on going towards the Flemings Hotel (look for the blue neon sign). Palace is the industrial looking building before the Flemings Hotel. You walk into the car park of Königsbergerstrasse 23 and go up the small flight of stairs to the Palace entrance hall and walk inside.
I arrived at FKK Palace at 22:30. I went through the entrance hall to the black Iron Gate and looked forlornly at the reception to be buzzed into the reception area by the Thekefrau. I paid the blond Thekefrau over my €75 entrance fee and told her my shoe size which would dictate the locker that I would receive as your rubber/plastic slippers would be inside the locker. The Thekefrau put a red “I have paid” tag around my left wrist and handed me a locker key that opens your clothes locker and your valuables locker which is attached to a yellow plastic wrist band.
I said that I had been to Palace before so the Thekefrau left me to collect my own brown coloured robe and brown towels and to put my valuables like wallet and handy in the valuables locker opposite the lobby bar area. I saw that the other Thekefrau was giving a new customer a tour and run down on the facilities. It was then off to the men’s lockers to undress, shower and to put on my robe uniform.
*** FKK PALACE DETAILS ***
FKK Palace, Frankfurt-Hausen
Königsbergerstrasse. 23, 60487 Frankfurt / M - Hausen (City)
Eintritt: 75 €
30 min: 50 €
60 min: 100 €
Extras: FT/CIM 50 €; COB 50€, Anal 100€
Open: 10-04
http://www.fkk-palace.de/
Mondays – girls wear socks or stockings
Wednesdays –dessous tag where girls wear bikinis or lingerie
Breakfast: 10am to 4pm
Cake: 3 pm to 6pm
Dinner: 7pm until late with refilling throughout
***INITIAL PALACE IMPRESSIONS***
I was at Palace this evening to meet up with Vito Corleone to pay my respects and to seek his favour with an issue. I thank you Vito Corleone for granting me that favour. So I was in Palace on a mission but also there was the little matter of banging pretty birds.
At 22:40 when I entered the main lounge it felt like more girls than guys. There were many girls and few hungry bears. The ratio when I entered the main contact room was maybe 2 daughters of Palace for every hungry bear. There were Palace daughters running around all over the place hunting for bear scalps. The bears were hiding in their caves slumbering as if in hibernation on their couches, sofas and stools or feeding themselves at the buffet table to fatten themselves before the winter.
The daughters of Palace were in various states of dress or undress. This is meant to be a FKK but there were daughters of Palace dressed up as if they were to go to a showy nightclub such was the extensive state of clothing. Full cover nighties, shoulder covering wraps, full corsets, around the body wraps were all evident. Only a few daughters of Oase were in the correct state of undress but even then wore some sort of belt or waist wrap. I understand that the Palace concept is that some clothing is worn as it is meant to make the girls look sexy. I just have a preference for naked girls so it is a case of what you see is what you get (WYSIWYG).
The facilities were in good order with sauna, steam room, pay for use sun bed, plenty of towels (as compared to Oase which always seems to run out of towels) and there were two masseurs on duty where one was a very petite lady called Bee from Thailand. The pool does not have a whirl and there was a sign that one must keep to the sides lest they crack the plastic cover in the middle where the fountain used to be. The reading/relax area was nice and there was soft porn on the television screen there.
Usually I partake of the facilities and do the FKK absolutions routine but this time I stayed away for some reason. Maybe it was just so late and I had a shorter span of time to do the service justice.
Right now there was a newly arrived hungry bear in Palace looking for a daughter of Palace to sate his lust.
***GIRLS ROOMED WITH***
***Ruby (Hungary)***
I was lying in the Kino minding my own business watching the movie when Ruby (Hungary) came up to me on the top mattress. Ruby is a slim brunette, small breasted and a toned body. She took her time getting me warmed up and marketing her various attributes, running her hands over my chest and tantalizing my nipples and then holding my Schwanz and Eier for any signs of life. Ruby kept at it and I kept trying to refuse. In the end I just caved with the constant attention to session from her and did her in the kino. Ruby does not have the look I like but she seemed friendly enough and I knew that I had to broaden my tastes or find myself lacking when I eventually visit Bernds.
Ruby and I began with a quick fondle, there was no kissing. Ruby then dropped to her hands and knees and proceeded to perform a BBBJ that got me close to completion as I had not had the pleasure of the palm for 5 days prior. I knew I was not going to last long and I would dump a load in her mouth. Then all of a sudden Ruby stopped to pick up her towel from across the way. This break in proceedings gave me time for my Schwanz to receive some respite.
Ruby returned to me to give a few more seconds of BBBJ then she produced a condom and slid the plastic onto me. Ruby assumed the reverse cowgirl position (RCG) and climbed onto my Schwanz as I lay prone facing the movie screen. Ruby did a competent fuck but it did not get me very far. So I took over the fucking as she held still in the RCG position.
I had to change as I was not getting there so I asked Ruby to assume the missionary position and I got on top of her and began humping away. This was okay, but Ruby did not kiss and it was pretty mechanical.
Now one thing in Ruby’s favour is that she is slim, petite and had a nice arse. I then opted for doggie style and we changed position so that she and I faced towards the Kino doorway as we knelt together on the top mattress in the Kino. I entered Ruby again holding her arse cheeks and hips and I proceeded to fuck Ruby trying to get my rocks off.
Somehow half way through the session I knew that I was not going to finish but kept going to see if I could eventually get there. The reason is that in other sessions I have managed to overcome that thought by sheer perseverance.
In all this time in the Kino I had not looked out across the room concentrating on Ruby and having my first session of the trip. In doggie style with my head now held up I had the opportunity to look out across the Kino and saw that there was a cohort of Italiani laughing and giggling like teenagers watching me fuck Ruby as well as a trio of Deutsch looking somberly at my performance probably marking me out of 10 and a troupe of Japanese looking bewildered at someone brazenly baring his arse to the world whilst fucking in the Kino. Yes, there was a bit of stage fright involved but until then I was doing fine.
After a minute I knew I was not going to finish as the sensation was lost at the BBBJ stage and so I stopped and feigned being tired. Ruby said no problem; we can continue in the room and wanted me to leave with her. One part of me thought – that is so nice she wants to continue then another part of me wondered whether she was going for the extra time and was going to hit me for 1 hour at €100 even though we were only at the 10 minute stage by now. On balance I knew that with the visuals not being right that it would be a supreme effort. I am one of those men that fuck with their eyes. The visuals help create the fantasy in the mind and as a lot of the sex is in the mind I need that to get me there.
I used the "stage fright" excuse with ruby to stop the session. Ruby then said that stage fright was more of a reason to continue the session in the room. In the end I declined to go to the room as offered by Ruby.
We cleaned up and picked up our respective belongings and headed out of the Kino to the valuables lockers for me to pass Ruby a €50 note for her services. I then went to the men’s lockers to shower and freshen up.
What really killed the session was that Ruby was doing a fine BBBJ and I was relaxed enough to splatter my baby batter in her mouth when she stops a few sucks away from me coming and jumps up to go collect her towel from another part of the Kino. I think the moment was lost there.
Later on throughout the evening I Ruby and I would say hello to each other when we passed by and several times Ruby would pass me by and give me a peck on the cheek. Nice touch now. Maybe Ruby is good but not kissing in the Kino did not help.
***Denisa (Romania) but says she is Moldavian***
Curly blond hair, hazel eyes, really stick thin skinny, A cups.
Denisa had come by me while I was standing at the bar with a cup of tea. She asked me to go to the room and I declined so Denisa moved along the chain of men situated by the bar area also trying it on with them to entice one to the room. All the men she tried to take the Zimmer refused Denisa’s offer and so Denisa took to the rotating pole dais in front of the bar area that is lit up from underneath and did a routine on the pole that basically consisted of her rolling around and sticking her arse in the air. Maybe this is meant to be erotic. During this time she was working the room by looking at men and catching their eye trying to indicate “look at me, don’t you find me hot? Want to come and fuck me?”
During this time I had been thinking of Denisa since she has been reported on before as a good session but then this was Palace where the good session girls can still take you for as many Euros as they can pump you for as well. Some guys rave about Denisa and for Vito Corleone she was one of his all time favourite (ATF) girls. On the other hand, what some men like may not be what you like. I like to kiss my girls and Vito Corleone is not so fussed about girls that kiss. This is why travelling with Vito Corleone is good, since both of us like pretty girls. However, the girls he finds pretty are not always the girls that I find pretty, but there are overlaps as we saw during this visit with Heidi and Cheyenne at Golden Time and Ambra at Oase. The smaller proportion of overlap of girl preference between Vito Corleone and I means that we do not contest the same girls.
In the end I had only been for a session once this visit and had not come yet holding a full load in my Eier. I decided to put myself in Fortuna’s hands and readied myself should Denisa come back to try her luck again with this punter bear.
Denisa caught my eye and did some more rolling around and wiggling of limbs at me from the illuminated rotating pole dais. Then she sidled over to me and went back strong with her sales pitch much more persistent than before. She wanted some more rooms before closing time. Denisa promoted perself by saying she was an excellent provider in the room and would rock my world. Denisa hustled me constantly for a session really working her act and promising me the time of my life and the best service in the Palace house. In the end I accepted thinking that I am putting €50 on a punt that this session was good or bad but hoping it was good.
In the room, Denisa gave pretty indifferent service, getting straight down to business. As soon as the clean sheet was down on the bed I was ordered onto the bed and to lie down. Denisa sat to my side and gave me a BBBJ. No foreplay fondling or kissing. Denisa sucked away and then asked if I was going to come after maybe 11 minutes. She had effectively stopped and just chatted about a few inane issues. The session finally ended at the 15 minutes mark with her not showing any inspiration to continue and me paying her €50 at the valuable lockers. I then went to the men’s lockers to shower and freshen up.
***GIRL LINE UP LIST***
1.Angelina (Czech Republic) slim, petite, big natural boobs, wore pink leggings and pink arm gloves
2.Daniella (Romania) brunette
3.Denisa (Romania) really skinny blond
4.Eva (Lithuania) Blond
5.Gabriella (Romania)
6.Gina (Czech Republic) from Moravia, blond, fake C cup boobs, blue eyed, average build but getting plump, but still looking like a Californian beach babe. Wore a turquoise sash around her wash.
7.Irina (Russia) tall blond, left around midnight
8.Jamil (Germany)
9.Kelly (Poland)
10.Kimmi (Brazil)
11.Laura (?) dark hair, average build
12.Marina (Cuba)
13.Melissa (?) blond, average build
14.Mona (Romania) blond, slim, petite
15.Rosie (Bulgaria) dark blond
16.Roxanna (Lithuania) previously at Oase as a platinum blond, now at Palace sporting light brown hair. Observations of her handiwork in the Kino indicate GFE style DFK, BBBJ and sex.
17.Ruby (Hungary) brunette
18.Selina (Germany) dark blond
19.Tan (China) black hair
20.? (?) Blond with large angel wing tattoo on her back
21.? (?) Brunette with Ankh arse antler tattoo.
22.? (?) CDL that kept her towel wrapped around her all the time
23.? (?) shoulder length dark blond hair, pretty – girl 1
24.? (?) shoulder length dark blond hair, pretty – girl 2
25.? (Czech) friend of Angelina.
26.? (Poland) blond with many tattoos and arse antler tattoos too.
27.? (Romania) girl looks like Mara (Romania) at FKK World with blue eyes, B cups, and an average build with long straight black hair.
28.? (Russia) tall blond
29.? (Turkey) large girl with big tits.
There were also many other girls, maybe, 20 more gazelles that I did not know including 5 black girls which may be of interest to Italy1977 so I highlight this aspect. Sorry I did not get to speak to them to find their names.
***OBSERVATIONS***
I arrived 22:30 and left at 04:25 allowing 6 hours of time spent in this FKK. 6 hours is a decent amount of time but the selections made were catastrophic.
After this visit, Palace is off the trip schedule for me. It was not a best experience compared to my experiences at Golden Time and Oase which were excellent with good service and memorable experiences.
I do have Palace penciled in for future visits in 2009 already, but these visits are due to planned meet ups with regular travel companions rather than of my own volition or because I arrive in the Frankfurt city so late without hired motorized transport that taking the much shorter trip by public transport to the conveniently located Palace is the only viable option than going to Oase or making the journey to Golden Time and getting there just to watch the staff close the club. As such on these pre-planned days I may end up taking a free night and going straight to bed or see the city rather than go to Palace.
Toscana and Ekliges Lauern suggest that I visit Palace on an early shift and spend more time to observe the girls and make my selection. A 16:00 arrival is good as you can see the day shift girls but also see the arrival of the night shift girls beginning to filter through. During 2008, I would visit Palace in the day time and those visits were fine but since my visits in the latter part of 2008 and into 2009 I have been put off Palace with my experiences.
In the main it has been partly the propaganda read on this forum that Palace is full of sharks and somehow that thought has also entered by psyche. Also, I am also put off from my experiences of girls wanting €100 before they provide a decent experience or the pricing structure is such that COB is a mandatory €50 extra when at Oase and sometimes at World the COB finish is inclusive of the standard service. Back in December 2008 I incentivized a good friend to come visit Palace for his debut experience at Palace to keep me company. My friend left Palace cursing the place not wanting to ever return due to the bad service he received from the sharks that were trying to wheedle more fiddys (€50) and hundos (€100) out of him.
Also my last two visits to Palace I was struggling to find girls with the look that I like. Angelina (Czech) and Gina (Czech) are good lookers but their services leave a lot more to be desired. Angelina does not kiss or allow muschi licking but does most other services like CIM and anal as there are fees involved. Angelina does look really good, a petite, slim blond with big natural knockers. Gina does kiss and allow muschi licking only when you upgrade to the €100 for a half hour session. Gina does not generally provide GFE services at the €50 mark providing the basic service of suck and fuck. As always with each girl the rider is YMMV.
Apart from that I have few girls that I can recall that float my boat at Palace regardless of the beauty quotient that has been hammered on before. Even Yulia (Ukraine/Romania) was not to be seen. I did spot Irina (Russia) who does a spectacular blow job but we kept missing each other but even then she is not quite my visual type.
The less than average service experiences were also encountered at World with Mara (Romania) and Sabrina (Romania). Mara only sucked for less than 1 minute and the reality was it was all hand and just a hint of mouth. Then it was on with the condom without delay. Sabrina just would not stop chatting and asking for more services for fees. Both sessions were struggles to finish and each finished well before the 30 minute time slot allowed.
I rationalize that maybe that I do not go to Palace or World often enough to get the Stammgast status. Then there is the argument that I do not see the point of spreading my limited resources thinly generate Stammgast status at Palace and World as well as Oase and Golden Time when those scarce resources seem to do fine enough in Oase and Golden Time at the €50 mark for a session.
There is a financial crisis going on and as consumers we have a choice on where we spend our discretionary economic output. I reason that I may as well go to the clubs where I can get the better bang for the Euro for me in my opinion. YMMV. I do not discourage anyone else from going to Palace but I have once again experienced a less than salubrious visit. In my defense I can say that at least I went and visited Palace to make up my own opinion. Many others just read this forum or thread from a few naysayers and decide not to go at all.
At present, I just did not find very much appealing to me at Palace. Maybe that will change in time as my tastes broaden or I do happen to find a girl that I click with at Palace. The point is that at Oase I happen to have high run rate of GFE or PSE with Oase girls. Maybe it is because I know the Oase line up so much better. Maybe it is because I am picky and at Palace I should be happy to receive an Amsterdam red light district style suck and fuck for a fiddy (€50) and get kicked out in less than 15 minutes.
Maybe it is that I like optifucks that give crap service. At Palace I did not really see much I liked in the optifuck department and the ones I did like, I knew really gave deplorable service. The women were beautiful but did not float my boat. It felt a more business like environment there and the girls gave off that vibe that we are going to take you for as much as we can squeeze from you. As Ekliges Lauern says girls with monetary incentives can be made to work in your favour. A man wants a pleasurable experience getting his rocks off. You tell the girl that if you do it well then I incentivize you with the FT bonus of €50 extra. But if you give me hard time then the most that you get out of me is €50. It does seem like at Palace that they are happy to take the €50 for 10-15 minutes work rather than go for the €100 since they can work the room and quickly get another €50 from another customer as the customer flow is there.
Please note the overriding rider to all this is that this in my experience and in my opinion. Other senior members like Vito Corleone, Hessen Bub, Ortos and Ekliges Lauern get the time of their lives at Palace. I just have not got that same loving feeling as they do. Maybe others will experience the best time of your life. You will never know unless you actually make the trip. So to others intending to visit Palace, please go to Germany and visit Palace and please do re-count your story on this forum and give us your opinion whether positive, negative or indifferent.
During my 6 hours in the club I saw Vito Corleone for less than the sum total of 30 seconds over two encounters. Both times we saw each other; Vito Corleone was walking to the lockers or taking a small break from long sessions with 2 of his ATFs.
Vito Corleone returned from his last session at 04:10 and it took him around 15 minutes to take a [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140), shower, towel dry & change. The Palace on site manager even went into the locker rooms to check in on him and to see that Vito Corleone was on target to leave. Vito Corleone had 3 really long sessions with 3 of his ATFs comprising Marina from Cuba, Denisa and Mona from Romania.
With Vito Corleone and I having a commonality in Denisa it is interesting to note the differences in experiences. Vito Corleone said that there was around 5-6 stunners that he did not have time to try this night. So there are beauties to be found at Palace.
***FOOD***
I was only present at Palace in the evening and so I only experienced the evening meal.
The dinner comprised pork cooked in an orange sauce, stuffed peppers, noodles, rice, boiled potatoes, and a decent selection of at least half a dozen different types of salad. For sweet there was a chocolate mousse with a sour cream to cut the sweetness.
The food was available until about 01:00.
***DEPARTURE***
I had gotten dressed at around 03:55 and I waited patiently at the Reception bar area until 04:10 before I saw Vito Corleone come back with Mona (Romania) from the room and paid her. During this time I was chatting with Denisa (Romania) at the bar. It was interesting to get to know her better. The club’s lights were on and staff were sweeping up and trying to get all the customers to leave.
Vito Corleone had a few absolutions to perform so was not ready to leave until 04:25. I continued to wait patiently for Vito Corleone to finish at the Reception bar area.
Eventually Vito Corleone was ready to leave and we walked down Königsbergerstrasse to the U Bahn station called Industriehof. We bought ourselves a one way ticket to the Hauptbahnhof for €2.20. There were other people on the platform getting ready to go to work. The 04:29 U Bahn (either U6 or U7) to Bockenheimer Warte eventually turned up and we took that changing at Bockenheimer Warte for the U4 to the Hauptbahnhof. Arriving at the Hauptbahnhof we walked across the road in front of the Hauptbahnhof to the Colour Hotel arriving just before 05:00.
***ACCOMODATION***
Colour Hotel, Frankfurt
Baseler Strasse 52
60329 Frankfurt am Main
Germany
Telefon 069-3650 758-0
Fax 069-252845
info@colourhotel.de
www.colourhotelde
A single room is €39 a night if booked in advance.
Benefits: welcome drink voucher for happy hour from 19:00-20:00. Very close to the Hauptbahnhof for public transport links.
Breakfast €8
In the Colour hotel, Vito Corleone and I checked emails and other information websites in the lobby and then retired at 05:20 to the room staying up late chatting and catching up with each others’ news. We also set aside time to prepare for the onslaught that was to happen the next day when at 09:30 we were meant to be meeting a clan of bears coming across the Ocean Sea at Frankfurt am Main flughafen. The plan was to join our just formed crew of Basketcase and Vito Corleone with the newly arrived clan of Ocean Sea bears and take a hire car to Bruggen to visit Golden Time and then at Golden Time also meet up with two other sets of bears bringing together at least four families of hungry bears to the table. So we set the alarm for 07:00 wake up but we did not get to sleep until 06:00.
The next leg of the tour at Golden Time is described in the post available in the link below:
Golden Time 880160
Kind regards
Basketcase
M P Lurker
05-10-09, 12:58
BC,
I agree that 4:30PM is a good time to get to Palace or a little later. 22:30 is nearly to time to leave in my opinion.
Ruby is an O.K. girl (tight pussy), but certainly nothing super special. Sex in the kino is risky if the girl is a bit shy.
What did you think of Kimmi from Brazil. She comes highly recommended by me and others. Fantastic kisser, BBBJ, CIM, sex, body, optifik, lovely personality, everything good. You should have tried her in my opinion.
Daniella from Romania, is normally a blonde (dyed) with very hot slim body. Good in the room too. But you wrote brunette???
I have never tried Denisa as don't get the right vibe from her.
Basketcase
05-10-09, 15:50
Was Ruby really pretty, tall about 5'9 with natural C cups?
I think I spent around 3 hrs with Denisa the same night & she gives off the hook service. DFK multiple sex positions & very flexible. Plenty of sexual stamina & never asks when I am going to cum. I must have worn her out!
"The time of your life & the best service in the Palace house." LOL. Denisa is one of my ATF's, but only a newbie should fall for that line. The fact that she constantly hassled you while working her act should have raised red flags!
My respects to you Vito Corleone,
To me Ruby (Hungary) was not that pretty let alone stunning. She was more average girl that you see in the street but is attractive because she is naked and available.
Ruby was not tall either - maybe 5' 4" without her heels. With the heels I think she could have stretched to 5' 9". Her breasts were a modest A/B cup if that, so I think the Ruby that you are thinking about is a different girl altogether.
I am glad that Denisa does the business for you. It is good that she works. The way that you describe her - she sounds like a dream. There is the proviso that YMMV and I seem to have received the YMMV from the downside perspective.
As for me I got indifferent service from Denisa and the best thing about my relationship with Denisa was the actual stilted chat that we had over drinks in the reception bar area while I waited for you to finish and Denisa waited for her friend to finish with a customer.
I know that I am still a newbie. You have all been doing this a lot longer than me. I am more used to the trusted and word of mouth pay for play experiences in my homeland. It is a bit more underground at home but with good recommendations you sort the wheat from the chaff. The FKKs require a bit more intuition and cunning.
In the end it is all still punting and I took that risk when I went with Denisa. One side of me had alarm bells, explaining my initial reluctance but what won me over was the recommendations that I had heard on the forum. Once again forum recommendations all have YMMV riders on them.
Just like people saying certain girls are real lookers but when you see them you wonder what all the fuss is about. As always YMMV. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
It is as some of the seniors say. You find writers that fit your taste and you give those posts more merit than others and also use standard setting when a punter says "XXXXXX" is really young and good looking and you do not think she is that pretty and she certainly is no longer a twenty something year old then you know that you cna discount that report.
Cheers,
Basketcase
05-10-09, 16:14
BC,
I agree that 4:30PM is a good time to get to Palace or a little later. 22:30 is nearly to time to leave in my opinion.
Ruby is an O.K. girl (tight pussy), but certainly nothing super special. Sex in the kino is risky if the girl is a bit shy.
What did you think of Kimmi from Brazil. She comes highly recommended by me and others. Fantastic kisser, BBBJ, CIM, sex, body, optifik, lovely personality, everything good. You should have tried her in my opinion.
Daniella from Romania, is normally a blonde (dyed) with very hot slim body. Good in the room too. But you wrote brunette???
I have never tried Denisa as don't get the right vibe from her.
Hi Soap Fan,
About the 22:30 start at Palace rather the more sociable 16:30 start: I had just flown into Frankfurt am Main at 21:30 so the 16:30 start was not possible. I was also going to meet up with Vito Corleone who advised me that he was at Palace.
Thanks for your assessment of Ruby. That is helpful.
I was not sure whether Ruby was shy, she certainly did not demur to a session in the Kino and certaintly initiated the proceedings.
I saw Kimmi, but she did not float my boat so to speak. Maybe I need to have another look, it is dark in Palace. She certainly has her admirers and recommenders.
Thanks for the correction on Daniella. She is blond, not brunette. My memory.
As for Denisa, from my experience your bad vibe from her is correct. She has other customers to keep her going.
Ozzy Ozzman
05-10-09, 20:40
***GIRL LINE UP LIST***
1.Angelina (Czech Republic) slim, petite, big natural boobs, wore pink leggings and pink arm gloves
2.Daniella (Romania) brunette
3.Denisa (Romania) really skinny blond
4.Eva (Lithuania) Blond
5.Gabriella (Romania)
6.Gina (Czech Republic) from Moravia, blond, fake C cup boobs, blue eyed, average build but getting plump, but still looking like a Californian beach babe. Wore a turquoise sash around her wash.
7.Irina (Russia) tall blond, left around midnight
8.Jamil (Germany)
9.Kelly (Poland)
10.Kimmi (Brazil)
11.Laura (?) dark hair, average build
12.Marina (Cuba)
13.Melissa (?) blond, average build
14.Mona (Romania) blond, slim, petite
15.Rosie (Bulgaria) dark blond
16.Roxanna (Lithuania) previously at Oase as a platinum blond, now at Palace sporting light brown hair. Observations of her handiwork in the Kino indicate GFE style DFK, BBBJ and sex.
17.Ruby (Hungary) brunette
18.Selina (Germany) dark blond
19.Tan (China) black hair
20.? (?) Blond with large angel wing tattoo on her back
21.? (?) Brunette with Ankh arse antler tattoo.
22.? (?) CDL that kept her towel wrapped around her all the time
23.? (?) shoulder length dark blond hair, pretty – girl 1
24.? (?) shoulder length dark blond hair, pretty – girl 2
25.? (Czech) friend of Angelina.
26.? (Poland) blond with many tattoos and arse antler tattoos too.
27.? (Romania) girl looks like Mara (Romania) at FKK World with blue eyes, B cups, and an average build with long straight black hair.
28.? (Russia) tall blond
29.? (Turkey) large girl with big tits.
There were also many other girls, maybe, 20 more gazelles that I did not know including 5 black girls which may be of interest to Italy1977 so I highlight this aspect. Sorry I did not get to speak to them to find their names.Basketcase,
Thank you for some very informative and detailed reports, both on Palace and your other destinations.
I'm heading for Frankfurt and Palace shortly and I was very happy to see that Roxanna is still at Palace. She has told me earlier that she will not be working there for the summer and may go back to Switzerland, were she worked before Oase (I'm not sure which club, but I beleive it was in Zürich). As I've stated before, Roxanna gives great service, allowing DFK, DATY, fingering and COB free of any surcharge. She is not shy about performing in public, nor is she a clock watcher. If you don't mind her "fake" looks (I happen to relish them) then she is highly recommended. The one downside with her, is that she isn't the kind of girl to lay down with and cuddle, caress and talk to too much after a session. Still, she's definitely one of my top 10 ATFs.
As for Roxanna's nationality, discussed in the Oase thread, I remember she told me she was Estonian the first time we were together, and Lithuanian the second time, the night after (or was it vice-versa? ). She confirmed to me which one was correct (if trustworthy), but I can't remember now.
I'm a bit concerned that Czech Evelina (Lina/Lena) was not observed during your visit, as she's my main reason for going back to Palace. That is, unless she would happen to be unknown girl # 25 on your list, which seems unlikely as I believe you know Evelina. If girl # 25 wasn't Evelina, how did this nameless friend of Angelina look like? The same as the Milka Gang trio, I. E. Very good with an ample bosom? If so, then it is probably a girl I'll have to seek out when there.
Ozzy
Basketcase
05-11-09, 21:58
Basketcase,
Thank you for some very informative and detailed reports, both on Palace and your other destinations.
I'm a bit concerned that Czech Evelina (Lina/Lena) was not observed during your visit, as she's my main reason for going back to Palace. That is, unless she would happen to be unknown girl # 25 on your list, which seems unlikely as I believe you know Evelina. If girl # 25 wasn't Evelina, how did this nameless friend of Angelina look like? The same as the Milka Gang trio, I. E. Very good with an ample bosom? If so, then it is probably a girl I'll have to seek out when there.
Hello Ozzy,
Thank you for your support.
During my visit I did not see Czech Evelina / Lina / Lena of the Milka gang. Girl number 25 was not Evelina. Girl number 25 was someone else that I did not know and did not manage to talk to. Girl number 25 spent a lot of time hanging out with Czech Angelina and walking around together in a pair.
Girl number 25 did not have the same blond good looks as the three original Milka gang girls. She just looked average.
Maybe Vito Corleone who was at Palace for several days during his visit may have spotted Evelina.
Vito Corleone
05-12-09, 08:13
I'm a bit concerned that Czech Evelina (Lina/Lena) was not observed during your visit, as she's my main reason for going back to Palace. That is, unless she would happen to be unknown girl # 25 on your list, which seems unlikely as I believe you know Evelina. If girl # 25 wasn't Evelina, how did this nameless friend of Angelina look like? The same as the Milka Gang trio, I. E. Very good with an ample bosom? If so, then it is probably a girl I'll have to seek out when there.
Ozzy
Lina was not present when I hooked up with BC, but she was there a couple of days later looking sexy as always.
Vito Corleone
05-12-09, 08:28
My respects to you Vito Corleone,
To me Ruby (Hungary) was not that pretty let alone stunning. She was more average girl that you see in the street but is attractive because she is naked and available.
Ruby was not tall either - maybe 5' 4" without her heels. With the heels I think she could have stretched to 5' 9". Her breasts were a modest A/B cup if that, so I think the Ruby that you are thinking about is a different girl altogether.
I am glad that Denisa does the business for you. It is good that she works. The way that you describe her - she sounds like a dream. There is the proviso that YMMV and I seem to have received the YMMV from the downside perspective.
As for me I got indifferent service from Denisa and the best thing about my relationship with Denisa was the actual stilted chat that we had over drinks in the reception bar area while I waited for you to finish and Denisa waited for her friend to finish with a customer.
I know that I am still a newbie. You have all been doing this a lot longer than me. I am more used to the trusted and word of mouth pay for play experiences in my homeland. It is a bit more underground at home but with good recommendations you sort the wheat from the chaff. The FKKs require a bit more intuition and cunning.
Cheers,
I was not sure if Ruby was the babe I did earlier in the week. I forgot her name other than she was hot as hell & a crappy session. Stopped @ 20 minutes, then gave an incredible bj when I agreed to CIM. The look on her face was priceless when I stopped the session @ 28 minutes.
Denisa is definately YMMV. When I first sessioned with her, it was her 1st or 2nd day working @ Palace & even HB did not know who she was. I was more interested in her hot looking friend with tits from heaven, but she was a real ***** & Denisa seemed to be a better choice. She spoke close to zero English & was kind of clueless in the room. I just had to train her. She did not know how to kiss or give good head. She was really sweet & somewhat innocent. My next trip a couple of months later & she learned the ropes quite fast. Spoke much better English strutted around the club with much more confidence. We really clicked from the beginning & she gives me a great GFE session. If she didn't, I wouldn't spend long sessions with her.
I remember reading you spent close to 30% of your life in the FKK's last year? Anyone who spends THAT much time in the FKK's is no newbie.
Basketcase
05-12-09, 08:47
I remember reading you spent close to 30% of your life in the FKK's last year? Anyone who spends THAT much time in the FKK's is no newbie.
Vito Corleone,
Yes, that 30% of my days in FKK was 2008's statistic. I am doing my best to moderate in 2009. I have cancelled a lot of prebooked trips.
There should be a decent space in between trips to recover and take stock. At first I thought FKKs were pretty inaccessible and impenetrable due to my lack of German so even though I knew about FKKs since 2002 I never visited until 2008. Now I know more I find getting to FKKs is possible.
I am not like a German local (or a Dutch local going to a NRW club) who can finish work at 17:00 and be in his robe or towel by 18:00 with a beer in his hand. So I do not have it that good.
For me, with the right planning I can be leaving home and inside Golden Time within 5.5 hours including allowing time to catch transit buses, check in and board planes, pick up hire cars, check into hotels.
For Oase the time using public transport and taxi combos on the Germany end and flying into Frankfurt Hahn (not Frankfurt am Main) which also involves the 1.75 hour Bohrs Omnibusse bus from Hahn to the Frankfurt Hbf takes about 7 hours end to end. If I flew into Frankfurt am Main I can be in Oase from my home in between 3.5-4 hours using public transport for most of the way and a taxi from Friedrichsorf to Oase depending on train timetables. Of course barring the travel time difference, flying into Frankfurt Hahn is a lot cheaper than flying into Frankurt am Main since a flight can cost €2 return at times whereas Frankfurt am Main costs around €130 return at present.
Denisa is definately YMMV. When I first sessioned with her, it was her 1st or 2nd day working @ Palace & even HB did not know who she was. I was more interested in her hot looking friend with tits from heaven, but she was a real ***** & Denisa seemed to be a better choice. She spoke close to zero English & was kind of clueless in the room. I just had to train her. She did not know how to kiss or give good head. She was really sweet & somewhat innocent. My next trip a couple of months later & she learned the ropes quite fast. Spoke much better English strutted around the club with much more confidence. We really clicked from the beginning & she gives me a great GFE session. If she didn't, I wouldn't spend long sessions with her.
One has to wonder --and this is pure speculation here-- whether the main reason why Denisa gives Vito top service and gives crap service to BC is: Vito spends hundreds of Euro on her for sessions lasting several hours, where our hero BC only provides a paltry 50E note? This might well fit into the general modus operandi of many a girl at Palace, i.e. you want GFE-service, you have to invest more than 50E. This is the crux of the matter for many mongers who, at one time looked at Palace as one of their destination clubs, but no longer go there quite so often...
So one might ask: Maybe she (and some other girls there, but not all) gives great GFE sessions only when large amounts of money are involved? Thus it might become a chicken-and-the egg thing: Vitos quote "...she gives me a great GFE session. If she didn't, I wouldn't spend long sessions with her." could be reversed: I spend long sessions with her, ergo she gives me a great GFE session... Once again, this is speculation, but maybe there is something here to consider.
One thing that kept occurring to me as I read and re-read BCs almost epic report about his last less-than-satisfying visit to Palace is: No Chemistry. We might all re-read Iseeu's recent post in Oase about Chemisty, because it is so, so much a factor in successful FKK visits. When Ruby approached you in the kino, BC, and started her flirtations: Was there any trace of chemistry? If not, don't go further with her. If there "might be a little chemistry, but not sure..." Then early on, BEFORE you are committed to a session with her, try to plant a short sweet DFK (a non-committal DFK, just a testing probing one) on her. You can tell right away if she is into it or not. Since, like me, DFK is an important factor, if she doesn't like it, then you can use that as an excuse to not go any further with her. It's great you are looking to broaden your horizons with less-than optifuck girls, but it's better to do it with girls you have some chemistry with, lest you force it too much.
And the issue of Chemistry is certainly a factor to consider with a girl like Denisa. It seems that during the initial chat up, there was NO chemistry between you two. I was in the same position as you last time I was at Palace and Denisa came up to me with her spiel. There was no chemistry! I felt that I was just another number on the list that she had to tick off. That was a red flag for me, so I didn't give her any postive feedback and she moved on very quickly. Like another guy said: I got a bad vibe from her.
For me it's all about the "vibe" I get initially from a girl and I've learned to trust my radar, but only after experiencing several dud sessions from girls I went into the zimmer with, even when I got that bad "vibe" but just didn't listen to it...
So it's all about living and learning. Each visit makes us older and wiser and hopefully we come back stronger next time. It seems clear you will not go back to Palace for some time, but I agree with Vito: You are no newbie now. I bet that if you shed your "psycological intimidation" about Palace and some of the girls there, and acted like a real confident "Bull monger," those sharky Palace girls would not cause you any problems. You just need a pep talk before you walk in there again, like a boxer gets psyched up before a round from his corner: "You are the great BC, super-monger! You get back in the ring and knock thier socks off! Go get 'em, boy!!" (Sorry, mate, and I'm not even stoned!)
But I guess in the end, it's all about Chemistry, and clearly, right now at least, BC has no chemistry with the club Palace, much less any or many of the girls there.
Once again, fantastic reports! I would put them in the RoD, but any BC report of this scale is by definition a Report of Distinction!
Ortos
P.S. Oh, and one more question: I recall that during your first phase at Palace, last year when you first started to discover the place, you had several sessions with Angelina, the big-titted Czech (never smiles) girl who stands at the back of the big bar with Lina and Gina, etc. You used to call her your "dirty little minx," etc. It seems you have moved on now and consider her a "been there and done that" girl, a concept we all develp with many girls after repeated visits to the same club. Question: How does she react to you now? During your last visit to Palace, when you did not approach her for a session, did she give off cold vibes to you? I remember being in the club with you and EL last year when you tried to chat up Lina for a session and she was uber-cold and nasty to you, for no good reason, I thought. I wonder if Lina deemed you "Angelina's boy" (i.e. her property), and she re-buffed you lest her friend get mad that Lina was stealing "her customer." What do you think?
Arriving Frankfurt on May 15. I am considering a trip to FKK Palace on the evening of May 15, and a trip to Oase on May 16 for the Spring Break event posted on the web site. This will be my first time at a FKK, I have read the many informative posts and have an idea on how these clubs operate. If anyone is interested in joining me on either of the these days, please let me know. It would be nice to meet up with someone who frequents these clubs. Again if anyone is interested let me know.
Vito Corleone
05-12-09, 21:42
So it's all about living and learning. Each visit makes us older and wiser and hopefully we come back stronger next time. It seems clear you will not go back to Palace for some time, but I agree with Vito: You are no newbie now. I bet that if you shed your "psycological intimidation" about Palace and some of the girls there, and acted like a real confident "Bull monger," those sharky Palace girls would not cause you any problems. You just need a pep talk before you walk in there again, like a boxer gets psyched up before a round from his corner: "You are the great BC, super-monger! You get back in the ring and knock thier socks off! Go get 'em, boy!!" (Sorry, mate, and I'm not even stoned!)
Ortos
I was supposed to provide the pep talk, but not able to connect due to his late arrival. If BC was a true newbie, I would have waited until his arrival & showed him the ropes. BC's World trip did not go well, but 2 of my capos said it was "great." Like you said, chemistry baby!
Basketcase
05-14-09, 00:04
Theme: please for more reports
I was supposed to provide the pep talk, but not able to connect due to his late arrival. If BC was a true newbie, I would have waited until his arrival & showed him the ropes. BC's World trip did not go well, but 2 of my capos said it was "great." Like you said, chemistry baby!
My respects to you Vito Corleone,
Your thoughtfulness in providing a rally talk prior to my entering the lion's den of Palace would have been well placed but I guess albeit my newbie failings this should not have been the case. My late arrival of course was a hindrance factor and being occupied with the forces that were staged against you - it was impractical for you to be extracted to make the meet up.
Yes, the World trip did not go as well as I would have liked. I know the other capos struck gold but to me I did not feel to have the same fortune. One makes their choice and takes the roll of the dice as to the outcome. It seems others may have better luck with Mara and Sabrina. YMMV. More reports from visitors will provide more data points. So as always I implore others to write up their experiences to give us those data points.
Many say to themselves that they have nothing to add to this forum as it has been said before but I say nay to that and say whatever you have to write is of use.
Basketcase
05-14-09, 01:09
Once again, fantastic reports! I would put them in the RoD, but any BC report of this scale is by definition a Report of Distinction!
P.S. Oh, and one more question: I recall that during your first phase at Palace, last year when you first started to discover the place, you had several sessions with Angelina, the big-titted Czech (never smiles) girl who stands at the back of the big bar with Lina and Gina, etc. You used to call her your "dirty little minx," etc. It seems you have moved on now and consider her a "been there and done that" girl, a concept we all develp with many girls after repeated visits to the same club. Question: How does she react to you now? During your last visit to Palace, when you did not approach her for a session, did she give off cold vibes to you? I remember being in the club with you and EL last year when you tried to chat up Lina for a session and she was uber-cold and nasty to you, for no good reason, I thought. I wonder if Lina deemed you "Angelina's boy" (i.e. her property), and she re-buffed you lest her friend get mad that Lina was stealing "her customer." What do you think?
Hi Ortos,
Thank you for the supportive comment on the reports. Very much appreciated.
Yes you are rigt and have an excellent memory to recall that Angelina (Czech) at Palace was my dirty little minx. She is such a pretty girl and yes does not usually have a smile on her face.
Me no longer going with her is partly due to me moving on but also by the cool reception that I receive from her when I do see her. She does not give me the happpy vibe or chemistry that she use to provide. One might say that I do not give her a happy vibe but then it is a service industry and I am not the provider.
On this last visit to Palace I still say hello to her and act civil and just got a "yeah yeah" to my greeting.
There may be an element of customer protection going on amongst the Milka gang clique but then Gina (Czech) has no such qualms trying to bag me and she is friendly with Angelina and Evelina/Lena/Lina. I had some nice moments with Gina outside the room this visit. She is so endearing, profesional and polite even though she has put on a bit of weight to her Californian beach babe figure and asks for €100 to provide a GFE service.
In the end we cannot be owned by the girls and they know that no matter how horrible the reality may be to them that you are not beholden to go with them every time you visit the club. if so, then the girl needs to wake up and smell the coffee that we are not their boyfriends as much as they are not our girlfriends. Any girl will tell you outright that they are not there to be your girl friend but to work. It is their job.
For example, I recall Vanessa (Russia) at Oase doing one guy in the Kino on the red mattresses at the front for ages and the guy just could not come (the Kino was empty until I arrived) so he spent the last minute wanking to get off. His hand was going at a million miles an hour stroking up and down his shaft. Vanessa had just given up licking his balls as he was doing this self abuse to himself.
Vanessa was packing up to leave as the guy was still beating his meat and she said to him, "Baby, time is up".
The man kept wanking concentrating on his pleasure.
Vanessa continued, "If you want more time then you must pay me more."
There was a pause and then Vanessa says," Baby, I do this for a job. I do not do this for free."
Finally the man gave up. He was not going to get off in a hurry, especially with ultimatums like that. The guy had not said a word. I guess he was the strong silent type.
Where is the girlfriend experience in that? The girls are there to make money and have an interest in it. I guess that Angelina does not have a need of my Euros and I would usually spend no less than €100 a time with her. if she wants to continue to have that supply of hundos (€100) then she has to be friendly.
That last visit when you, EL and I were present in the Palace haus together was where I think the breaking point was that Angelina thought I wanted kissing and she declined me and then added that Evelina, who was present during the exchange, does not kiss either so I was not going to get what I wanted there. EL had advised that Evelina did kiss and so that was why I was enquiring of Evelina as well. Angelina some how did all the talking for the both of them. YMMV.
Ever since then Angelina must think that I no longer desire her. The reality is far from that truth that she thinks. Angelina is one hot babe, she does the business. Like I said above I have always said hello to her and been polite. She just does not stop by and chat no more.
I think Angelina thinks she has milked this hundo providing well too much now and has moved onto the hordes of new comers to the club which she can turn around in 10 minutes in the room for €50. That is good money if you can achieve that run rate.
The Czech Milka gang girls are one pretty trio of big boobed blondes.
M P Lurker
05-14-09, 15:59
One has to wonder --and this is pure speculation here-- whether the main reason why Denisa gives Vito top service and gives crap service to BC is: Vito spends hundreds of Euro on her for sessions lasting several hours, where our hero BC only provides a paltry 50E note? This might well fit into the general modus operandi of many a girl at Palace, i.e. you want GFE-service, you have to invest more than 50E. This is the crux of the matter for many mongers who, at one time looked at Palace as one of their destination clubs, but no longer go there quite so often...
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One thing that kept occurring to me as I read and re-read BCs almost epic report about his last less-than-satisfying visit to Palace is: No Chemistry. We might all re-read Iseeu's recent post in Oase about Chemisty, because it is so, so much a factor in successful FKK visits. When Ruby approached you in the kino, BC, and started her flirtations: Was there any trace of chemistry? If not, don't go further with her. If there "might be a little chemistry, but not sure..." Then early on, BEFORE you are committed to a session with her, try to plant a short sweet DFK (a non-committal DFK, just a testing probing one) on her. You can tell right away if she is into it or not. Since, like me, DFK is an important factor, if she doesn't like it, then you can use that as an excuse to not go any further with her. It's great you are looking to broaden your horizons with less-than optifuck girls, but it's better to do it with girls you have some chemistry with, lest you force it too much.
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Ortos raises some really interesting points.
Girls at the Palace have probably noticed I dissappear in a room for extended time, so even on a first time they may well think they have a good chance of getting more than 50 Euros out of me.
Does this actually contribute to getting a better GFE? It is possible even if not a concious decission by the girl.
On the other hand I could swear that I got fab GFEs out of girls who had never seen me before and had no idea how much I would spend. e.g. Brazil Kimmi and Thai Bee are super special examples. You would have to be a real A-hole not to get on well with these two I reckon.
I almost always choose optifiks (to my spec) or at least really cute, and this probably helps me to have chemistry with them because my comments on how hot they look will be very genuine. Just seeming to be genuinly interested in them usually helps a lot.
Always treating a girl with respect, paying fairly, and giving her a good time too all lead to getting great service.
I always apologise if I may have caused the girl any hassle.
All my favourite girls don't have to talk about money in the room. They know I will be very fair.
If you like a girl, always say so and that you are hot for her too, but purely not in physical shape for immediate action. Some girls don't react well when you are obviously looking for something more exciting, but bad luck if don't find it.
Having developed a great relationship with Kimmi, she will never give up till she gets me there.
Hessen Bub
05-14-09, 16:23
I almost always choose optifiks (to my spec) or at least really cute, and this probably helps me to have chemistry with them because my comments on how hot they look will be very genuine. Just seeming to be genuinly interested in them usually helps a lot.
Always treating a girl with respect, paying fairly, and giving her a good time too all lead to getting great service.
I always apologise if I may have caused the girl any hassle.
All my favourite girls don't have to talk about money in the room. They know I will be very fair.
Considering this everybody should have quite a number of good experiences in FKKs. I do.
HB
Having read up a bit on FKKs and PTs and consulting with Soap Fan I decided to spend my one evening in Frankfurt at The Palace.
I had a rental and having read Soap Fan's complaint about not having an int'l ATM inside I spent the whole drive looking for an ATM. I didn't find one and circled the immediate area looking for the one that Soap Fan mentioned was down the street. When that didn't work I stopped at the Ibis and they sort of explained. For the benefit of others, if you come out of Palace to the street and make a right you come to a roundabout. Take a right at that roundabout and go to the next intersection. There on the far left corner is a building with an ATM at the top of a few stairs.
There was plenty of parking in their parking lot when I arrived at around 8:30PM. I entered and was given some explanation before I paid. After paying the attendant showed me to the lockers for valuables, got me a robe and showed me the direction of the locker room. As I came out I explored the place a bit and found it to be a nice layout. The ratio of .. gazelles to bears seemed to be reasonable on this Thursday evening. Some of my impressions:
The Kino was not very interesting. I don't enjoy porn and there wasn't really much going on in there save someone getting a BJ once in a while. The girls who approach you as you leave the Kino are relatively aggressive. I don't find the European girls with big tits to be my cup of tea and was looking for something more lithe and/or exotic.
There were two asian girls in the place. I was looking for the full back tattoo which would be the giveaway for Bee but she wasn't working while I was there. After some glances across the room a Thai girl named Didi approached me. We started talking, quickly got to the point where we were talking about places in Thailand and the chemistry kicked in extremely well from there. Went in for a kiss at the bar and the kiss that was returned told me that we'd be find in the room. We went to a room and had a great session. BBBJCIM (probably 30+ mins of BBBJ throughout this session), DATY to completion twice, lots of DFK and fingering in all holes. I think the session lasted about an hour. I gave her EUR 100 and she insisted that the CIM meant another EUR 50. I thought I'd read here that this is not the case but couldn't remember at the time. The service I got was definitely worth the extra EUR 50 but I was mostly concerned that I'd run out of money while the evening was young. Anyway EUR 150 it was.
I tried to relax at the Kino but found it just not a comfortable place to relax. If the room was set up different more like a U shape I think it would be better. I ended up sitting on some of the couches in the main area and watching the action. Now and then some girls would come over and we'd talk but nothing that really floated my boat. If I knew I had another night to come back I'd probably have been more apt to try our girls that weren't 100% my personal taste. I'd like to have tried out some of the dark Dominican girls but none of them had the body I look for: lithe, smallish breasts, tight ass.
The hunt was on for Kimmi. I hadn't seen any pictures so all I had to go on was a Brazilian girl. I approached a girl that had a cute body, great look in my opinion. She ended up being Nicole from Colombia. When I went in for the kiss it didn't happen. I had the feeling that this could be a disappointing session but her looks had me roped in. We went looking for a room. At this point it was starting to be hard to find open rooms. We were in a smoking room and I balked. I knew I'd end up with a headache to regret from the smoke. We eventually found a room. BBBJ was not bad, she wasn't up for kissing. I didn't even try for DATY. The session still went a while but her lack of English was also a bit of a challenge to keep the session going. She started on top, quickly asked for us to swap, which I did. Anyway, I enjoyed the .. optifick-ness of it but would not give her high marks in service.
The hunt for Kimmi was back on. I asked Nicole about her and she didn't know who I could be talking about. I sat around watching for someone that could possibly be her. A Czech-Russian duo approached me, a Hungarian girl with small tits and shortish hair approached me. I'd have loved to do her but was too worried about the cash in hand.
After a while I found myself back at the bar chatting to Didi. I asked her about this Brazilian girl named Kimi and she didn't know who I was talking about. Knowing I hadn't been here before she asked how I knew about this girl. I said a friend of mine had mentioned her. She asked where I know this friend from.. eventually it go to the point where some identifying characteristics of the guy's language skills were clear enough that she knew who the guy was. (I hope he doesn't mind and will still talk to me.) She immediately knew who I was talking about, scanned the room, and called over Kimmi.
Kimmi's looks were exactly to my liking. Hair, face, body, the works. I think that the way I came to know Kimmi, another girl calling her over, may have strained the chemistry a bit. I didn't spend enough time chatting with her to develop much chemistry. Also she asked if I wanted 30 mins or an hour and I said let's start with 30 mins and see how things go. Anyway, we were off to the room. Kimmi's service was good. Good DFK, BBBJ, great kisser. I enjoyed DATY but the warmth that comes from chemistry wasn't really there. If I ever find myself in Frankfurt again I'd definitely seek her out and try to make a bit more of a connection. I can see the potential to really enjoy her, but this evening it was only mediocre. 30 mins and EUR 50 were all that happened.
I grabbed some food and found that Didi was sitting at the table as you just enter the main area near the Kino entrance. I sat across from her and we chatted. She was interested in how I liked Kimmi and was sort of confused by all of the hype about how she kisses. I told her we'd have another go but I needed to rest a bit first. We chatted a bunch more and she started to talk about how long it had been since she'd last gotten off before earlier. She attributed this to just having returned to Frankfurt from vacation in Thailand a week beforehand. At this point I had enough for another 30 mins and it was getting late. I suggested that we go to a room and she reminded me that I needed to rest a bit. I told her that I could rest up with DATY and off we went. I really enjoyed DATY on her as she was vocal as to what she liked without being pornstar-ish. She kept her hands on me head to make sure that when I was in a good spot I'd not move from there. In short, it was really a GFE. The only downside to her is that she had a nose job and seems to have some implants. I am not a fan of either. Anyway, we ended with a good deal more BBBJ and a final shot for me for the evening. In my opinion she has a fabulous ass which feels great in my hands while she's doing whatever. I'd definitely look her up again as the GFE she provided far outweighed the nose job and the fake tits.
Bottom line is that I'd definitely like to return although for the same money I can get so much more in Thailand. I'd schedule a vacation to Thailand to monger while Frankfurt will only happen if I happen to need to be there again on business.
Thanks for all the advice folks!
Mario Veneto
05-16-09, 14:42
We arrived at Oase yesterday at 9 pm.
The place was full of girls and men. The ratio was almost one to one .
When I asked one of the girls how many of girls are working , she answered 100. I guess she was right .
After a short jacuzzi session I managed to get a newbie. She started this business recently. She was 18. Very cute face. Blond hair and big natural boobs.
Her name was Mendy and she was German. She gave a very nice service and she was very active during the session . She also kissed with tongue.
All my friends has a session with her and had her good experience.
She left at 11 pm despite most of the girls who stay much longer.
Then I started looking for a new candidate for my next session.
I still had the feeling of a 'kid in a candy store' and couldn't make up my mind.
I had a session with a petite Polish 22 yr old girl with black hair.
Sorry I forgot her name . Despite her great body and splendid curves she didn't managed to deliver good service. I guess she was too business oriented and wanted me to cum asap to pass to the next one.
After that I left the place. I was too tired from the long journey.
Conclusion:
Excellent lineup and a large choice. As usual bad food. Very nice premises with jacuzzi and sauna but not enough room in the resting area. Multinational girls and some with unbelievable bodies approaching 9.
Oase is and remains a sure value even if sometime I wish it was less crowded .
Today (Saturday 16th may) they are having a barbecue party but we decided to discover Fkk world in Giessen . It is a 50 km drive from Oase.
Review will follow .
Hessen Bub
05-16-09, 18:27
We arrived at Oase yesterday
This is the Palace thread. ;)
HB
We went to a room and had a great session. BBBJCIM (probably 30+ mins of BBBJ throughout this session), DATY to completion twice, lots of DFK and fingering in all holes. I think the session lasted about an hour. I gave her EUR 100 and she insisted that the CIM meant another EUR 50. I thought I'd read here that this is not the case but couldn't remember at the time. The service I got was definitely worth the extra EUR 50 but I was mostly concerned that I'd run out of money while the evening was young. Anyway EUR 150 it was.Her pricing was correct: EUR 100 for one hour, EUR 50 for CIM. Sounds like she was good value for that. Thanks for the report.
Her pricing was correct: EUR 100 for one hour, EUR 50 for CIM. Sounds like she was good value for that. Thanks for the report.
Thanks for setting me straight!
M P Lurker
05-17-09, 09:57
There were two asian girls in the place. I was looking for the full back tattoo which would be the giveaway for Bee but she wasn't working while I was there.
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After a while I found myself back at the bar chatting to Didi. I asked her about this Brazilian girl named Kimi and she didn't know who I was talking about. Knowing I hadn't been here before she asked how I knew about this girl. I said a friend of mine had mentioned her. She asked where I know this friend from.. eventually it go to the point where some identifying characteristics of the guy's language skills were clear enough that she knew who the guy was. (I hope he doesn't mind and will still talk to me.) She immediately knew who I was talking about, scanned the room, and called over Kimmi.
Bee works daytime and is very busy so sometimes hard to spot.
It amazes me that although girls talk to each other a lot, they often don't know the names of the other girls. This is probably partly due to a lot of names being fake.
Chemistry is usually not immediate unless faked. So sure it takes a little time to build some chemistry and rapport.
Spending time at FKK is definitely expensive. Not something to be afforded on a daily basis unless wealthy.
Thailand is different in that can have several girls every day or one girl for several days and not break the bank.
M P Lurker
05-17-09, 10:34
Yesterday returned to Palace after about 8 week absence.
Had to do some of my favourites, including Romanian/Italian Nicholetta (days and only till 3PM Sat), Thai Bee (days), Kimmi (Brazil), Thai Didi.
Bee was the highlight. She is just made perfect for fucking me and many others. Great doggy fuck to completion with pussy squeezing going on. Doesn't do CIM but is so good, doesn't need to. For BBBJ and CIM, the stunning Kimmi is great.
Chatted to a few guys. Mr. G (German), Mr. T (probably German), Mr F (German), Mr Norway, Mr M (English/Indian).
Mr T recommended Bee as his favourite so I had to reply was just out of extended session with Bee.
As Mr F is a regular that I see at Palace all the time and he has same taste as me liking slim girls, I ask him about various girls I don't know if I am unsure.
Other girls that got recommended yesterday (not all having the body type for my spec):
Laura (I think) from Bulgaria (blonde but not the skinny one from Romania). Mr Norway went with her twice.
Gabriella (Moldova) tall slim but nice medium natural tits
Roxanna (Lithuania) short blonde with big high tits and big bum but fantastic in the room apparently.
Tiara (Germany) A narrow and not stunning face with shortish dark hair, but Mr. F said she was an incredible fuck and got him off impossibly immediately after another girl (no break) and he was pretty stuffed already from several sessions.
Mitsu (Japan) with nice tits but a bit straight and flat in the bottom region. Has a great reputation for good sessions and even recommended by another girl (Bee).
Sara (German) slim blonde with great body. Described as a proper good girl but maybe just a bit lacking on the wild side by Mr Norway and Mr F.
Amanda (Bulgaria or Turkey?) and slim young small girl with dark hair who performed the turkish belly shaking dancing very captivatingly. Mr F says she is O.K. in the room but not so special, but he still went with her. Perhaps it was her Optifik cuteness.
Could be some mistakes in these details, like I am guessing how to spell names.
There were about 3 girls with massive tits that didn't look fake (perhaps beyond D cups). But didn't sucumb to trying any of them. High possibility of shark material here.
Some hunting in packs.
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Chemistry is usually not immediate unless faked. So sure it takes a little time to build some chemistry and rapport.
Yeah, I know this very well. This is why though I felt I didn't connect with Kimmi I'd seek her out again. I can sense that she is someone I could connect with but I'd need more than the brief time and budget I had at the moment.
Mitsu (Japan) with nice tits but a bit straight and flat in the bottom region. Has a great reputation for good sessions and even recommended by another girl (Bee).
Since Bee recommended her, can we assume Mitsu is also a daytime girl? Euro prices for Japanese girls seems like a bargain!
Sebastiane
05-17-09, 22:45
On Friday night at around 8 ish pm I made my way to Palace. I had only gotten changed and showered and was just helping myself to some salad when I spotted Natasha the Romanian--my 'regular'. She came up to me and hugged me and we kissed briefly and, my mind made up, (though I want to experience others too it is expensive and with her for 100 euros for an hour I am guaranteed a fantastic GFE so why change something good? ) I told her I'd see her soon.
Whilst I was eating Gina flirted with me for a while as did another girl whose name I cannot recall but I went up to Natasha and we went to a room where I spent an hour having a great GFE. Afterwards we chatted and she told me her real name wasn't Natasha.
This got me thinking if others have sessioned with her under a different name? I ask because she's there a lot in the evenings and gives incredible service yet no one else on these forums except me seems to mention her! She's tall, 173 cm, Romanian, normally pale skin (now tanned due to solarium as she herself said), great natural body, natural tits, pert and perfect, not too big or too small, like mangoes, was wearing a black fishnet top and black shoes with high heels and, this time, had hair extensions on which were black and wavy going down to her lower back. Very pretty face, straight Roman nose, fine bones, big eyes. Yummy! Usually has shoulder length straight black her. Sometimes wears a little wrap round her butt instead. Great arse on her too, curvy like a woman's should be. I'd be interested if others--the regulars--have been with her.perhaps under a different name? Natalie? She speaks French too. I adore her!
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M P Lurker
05-18-09, 03:42
Since Bee recommended her, can we assume Mitsu is also a daytime girl? Euro prices for Japanese girls seems like a bargain!No Mitsu seemed to be an evening girl and Bee sometimes overlaps into the early evening. Saturday, Bee was there till maybe 9PM.
M P Lurker
05-18-09, 08:33
This got me thinking if others have sessioned with her under a different name? I ask because she's there a lot in the evenings and gives incredible service yet no one else on these forums except me seems to mention her! She's tall, 173 cm, Romanian, normally pale skin (now tanned due to solarium as she herself said), great natural body, natural tits, pert and perfect, not too big or too small, like mangoes, was wearing a black fishnet top and black shoes with high heels and, this time, had hair extensions on which were black and wavy going down to her lower back. Very pretty face, straight Roman nose, fine bones, big eyes. Yummy! Usually has shoulder length straight black her. Sometimes wears a little wrap round her butt instead. Great arse on her too, curvy like a woman's should be. I'd be interested if others--the regulars--have been with her.perhaps under a different name? Natalie? She speaks French too. I adore her!Using "Search this Thread" you can find what others have written about her, if same Natasha (could be more than one).
e.g. Rain City reported an upsell shark:
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=855466&postcount=3917
YMMV. A girl may treat her regulars very differently to someone she thinks is a newbie.
I am regular on Saturdays and am not sure if I ever saw her or not. Many of us may miss a girl because of not our spec or a bad vibe.
Is Natasha slim, voluptuous or large build? I generally go for slim build, with cute noses. My best advisor, regular Mr F, has same spec as me so we never even discuss the bigger girls.
I am now making an effort to talk to a range of other customers, to broaden my horizons. So may try some not so slim girls or not so pretty girls that are highly recommended. But there is no way I could lose face by doing one of the real uglies (there are some) no matter how good their service might be. Beauty turns me on.
Unfortunate maybe.
I am not even keen to try a different girl now unless have got at least one strong recommendation, for fear of wasting money on a poor session, unless chemistry is really good. There is little need to gamble when so many known good girls are available. The other thing I like is when the Palace is not too busy with customers, its easy to get the girl, when you want her. So I don't like to stay after midnight when too many drunk guys who missed out on a pickup somewhere else are arriving.
I will try to take the advice of Ekliges Lauern and try a girl in the kino first, even though the kino doesn't really appeal to me.
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Hi guys,
I'm Italian and on this Saturday will go to Palace! Anyone of you will be there? Who is the best girl I should fuck? I don't like the barbie-girl I wanna a skunk girl!
Harry Dude
05-18-09, 19:51
No Mitsu seemed to be an evening girl and Bee sometimes overlaps into the early evening. Saturday, Bee was there till maybe 9PM.
I was at Palace last weekend (Saturday May 9). First Anja/Anna (Russia) did a stellar job, then a very pretty, slim, blonde German girl from Hamburg doing an ok job, and then I spent some time with Mitsu. A very nice and friendly girl, not quite as passionate as some others (such as Bee), but she did well - "please kiss my pussy". There was a fourth girl too...now I can't remember who that was. Anyway, Mitsu was there when I arrived at around 1:30pm, so she's not striclty an evening girl.
Anyway, Mitsu was there when I arrived at around 1:30pm, so she's not striclty an evening girl.
Can one of you kind gentleman kindly give a physical description of the Japanese girl Mitsu? What exactly does she look like. Thanks for any additonal info...
Ortos
West By Sun
05-19-09, 02:28
Thanks for any additonal info...
I recently visited Palace. There was no Japanese girl in Palace, however I saw a new Chinese girl who claimed to be Japanese, like Romanian who claims to be Italian.... I have been in Tokyo for several years for buisiness. It is so funny that I speak better in japanese than this girl.
WBS
At about 1:30 AM last Saturday night / Sunday morning, one of the girls and a guy were having a dispute over how much, if anything, he owed her. One of the Palace employees (male, dyed black hair, looks like he has had a steroid or two) gets involved. The next few minutes took on a farcical quality as a German and a Frenchman tried to argue in English. The arguement ended with the Frenchman on the ground in the fetal position with the German towering over him screaming "get out!" and pointing toward the door. The Frenchman was put down and almost out by one slap across the face.
In the end, you're going to pay one way or the other, but what was suprising about this encounter was that it happened right by the buffet, with lots of witnesses and most likely filmed on CCTV.
I recently visited Palace. There was no Japanese girl in Palace, however I saw a new Chinese girl who claimed to be Japanese, like Romanian who claims to be Italian.... I have been in Tokyo for several years for buisiness. It is so funny that I speak better in japanese than this girl.
WBS
Thanks, any kind of description of her physical attributes? I encountered a similar situation at World a couple of months ago, where there was a girl claiming to be Japanese, but was in reality a Chinese girl from Macau, I later found out. She gave a great bbbj, though...
M P Lurker
05-19-09, 07:58
Thanks, any kind of description of her physical attributes? I encountered a similar situation at World a couple of months ago, where there was a girl claiming to be Japanese, but was in reality a Chinese girl from Macau, I later found out. She gave a great bbbj, though...O.K. I described Mitsu already (if same one).
She looked Chinese to me with straightish hips and flat bottom. Tits were better.
BTW There was another girl Michelle claiming to be half japanese (certainly looked half Asian).
Hessen Bub
05-19-09, 09:19
Can one of you kind gentleman kindly give a physical description of the Japanese girl Mitsu? What exactly does she look like. Thanks for any additonal info...
She used to have an advert at ladies.de including pictures. It's offline for the moment, but maybe it will be re-activated.
She is 24 years old, 165cm, slim figure, B-cups.
HB
At about 1:30 AM last Saturday night / Sunday morning, one of the girls and a guy were having a dispute over how much, if anything, he owed her. One of the Palace employees (male, dyed black hair, looks like he has had a steroid or two) gets involved. The next few minutes took on a farcical quality as a German and a Frenchman tried to argue in English. The arguement ended with the Frenchman on the ground in the fetal position with the German towering over him screaming "get out!" and pointing toward the door. The Frenchman was put down and almost out by one slap across the face.
In the end, you're going to pay one way or the other, but what was suprising about this encounter was that it happened right by the buffet, with lots of witnesses and most likely filmed on CCTV.
These disputes seems to be more frequent at all clubs. It seems years ago, this kind of thing never happens. I guess both the customers and the workers are more $$$$ conscious these days.
I will try to take the advice of Ekliges Lauern and try a girl in the kino first, even though the kino doesn't really appeal to me.
Aren't you then limited to the girls that actually make their way TO the kino? I didn't notice any of the girls I sessioned with heading towards the kino at any time.
Also, what is the advantage to trying in the kino first? Price and time will be the same, no? (Unless they want more for public kino session)
She used to have an advert at ladies.de including pictures. It's offline for the moment, but maybe it will be re-activated.
She is 24 years old, 165cm, slim figure, B-cups.
HB
Thanks for the description. Just wondering: Does she wear boots, ankle-high white or beige boots?
Danke,
O
Sebastiane
05-19-09, 19:10
Mp lover,
The Natasha I highly recommend is slim and tall. Romanian. I think I gave a v. Good description! Do you know Indira? They are good friends with each other. I've had great service from her since the first time and I'm average looking and overweight so it cannot be my looks though I do have a very friendly personality.-so I' ve been told by a lot of the girls (not just in FKKs either! )
And I always treat the girls with a lot of respect and can be a generous punter if I like a girl. And I fuck well!
I think I spotted that Japanese girl you guys are on about. She looked VERY attractive and I was almost tempted to go with her--alas Natasha had already rinsed me in all meanings of the word!.-I smiled at her and she, surprisingly, didn't smile back but gave me what I'd call a dirty look! Surely it cannot be because I am a brown gai-jin? She looked very lovely though and I' ve always wanted to make love to a Japanese girl.
M P Lurker
05-19-09, 22:12
Thanks for the description. Just wondering: Does she wear boots, ankle-high white or beige boots?
Danke,
O
Next time you see her, you will know. Can ask her name if necessary, but there are not many asians.
In the end it doesn't matter if she is really Japanese, Chinese, or whatever.
M P Lurker
05-19-09, 22:32
Aren't you then limited to the girls that actually make their way TO the kino? I didn't notice any of the girls I sessioned with heading towards the kino at any time.
Also, what is the advantage to trying in the kino first? Price and time will be the same, no? (Unless they want more for public kino session)
Most girls will check the kino unless they are busy.
Ekliges Lauern on the use of kino:
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=858495&postcount=3966
Ekliges Lauern
05-20-09, 02:19
Most girls will check the kino unless they are busy.
Ekliges Lauern on the use of kino:
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=858495&postcount=3966
Another important aspect of the Kino is the girls know other guys are watching. They are less likely to give crappy service if they know other potential customers are watching. I often insist the first time I session with a new girl is in the Kino.
That said, some girls really don't want to have sex in the Kino. It does not follow that she is a shark just because she doesn't want to blow you/have sex with you in the Kino.
Plus, I kind of like making eye contact with other girls while getting blown in the Kino.
Most girls will check the kino unless they are busy.
Ekliges Lauern on the use of kino:
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=858495&postcount=3966
I guess I figure that the better girls are going to be busy.
Thanks for the link, and EL for the strategy overview. I wish I'd read this far back before I visited.
If the river Palace in Kiev is the ultimate fantasy nightclub, the Frankfurt palace (and places like it) is the ultimate fantasy strip club. You walk in and are given a robe and a key that opens a locker and for a security box. The security boxes are in open view, so nobody is going to open your box unless you have stupidly lost your key. Loosing your key is almost impossible, because you are given a wrist band that holds it. There is a buffet, a sauna, a porno movie room, several showers, a Jacuzzi, etc. Oh yes, of course, there are girls everywhere, most totally nude, offering themselves to you for the right price (50 €).
I noticed one that was nearly perfect (Caroline) and the rest were still pretty good. Soft drinks are free and there is no beer. I settled in to watch the action for a while before heading out for some action, and eventually a beautiful long-haired sweetie (the name escapes me, but she was little and claimed to be, and looked like she was from Turkey) comes over, chats with me for a couple of minutes (the usual bullshit-where are you from, etc), and then proceeds to suck my cock, right there in public. I must say, it was exciting! After about a minute, which seemed a lot longer, she led me but the hand (but actually, by the cock) to a private room. In the room, she started to blow me again, and moved on to some sex. She moaned and groaned as if I was rocking her world (all fake, of course) and everything was fine until she realized that I was not gong to finish in 5 minutes, and she stared to complain. I told her to take it, that it was her job, and was still pounding her 5 minutes later when the complaining got even louder. She said that she was small, and I was fucking her too hard, and that I would make her unable to work for the rest of the night, and that 50 € is for regular fucking, etc. We were spending more time talking than fucking and it was getting annoying. I persuaded her to fuck for perhaps another 5 minutes, at best, at which time she started again, and I just told her we could finish. I usually do not come anyway (I need a lot of stimulation), but at least I would have liked to fuck for the full 30 minutes. We were there for perhaps 20 minutes. I just paid her and moved on.
Unlike what some people write on the boards, the girls do not want a stud. They fuck at least 15 or 20 men during a shift. Some men are fat, ugly, old, unattractive, and all are strangers. I doubt that any really enjoy sex. All they want is someone who comes within 5 minutes so they cam move on to the next one. I bet that if the girls develop a liking for you (if you are a regular) it is because you are NOT a very good lover, but rather a quick finisher.
I went off to relax for a while, had some food and sat back to enjoy the view. It was nice having a meal with a bear-breasted beauty besides me, chattting with her and fondling her a little between bites. I turned her offer down afterwards, asked her to give me 30 minutes to digest. By which time she had forgotten about me, of course and moved on to other prey.
I turned down a few girls, using the excuse that I had just finished and needed a little time to recover. It seems most sessions seldom last more than 15 minutes. There was a group of Italians roaming around; I do not see how you can do this with a bunch of friends and later see each other at the office. There was an old man who could barely walk; I do not know how he was ever able to perform. There were a few people passed out sleeping on couches.
Eventually I was approached by a another small sweetie named Ruby, who claimed to be from Hungary. She has a gorgeous face and a firm little body, despite having had a child, as it was later revealed. This session was a little better, without any complaining, but perhaps only because, being still aroused from my previous encounter, I finished within 15 minutes. Perhaps a better strategy is not to start fucking right away, but rather caress her and talk for the first 15 minutes, and then start fucking. Maybe you will not get to finish, but at lest she will work for the full 30 minutes.
I took a shower, went back out, and thought that if I were e multibillionaire, I would probably live here. Well, actually, I would make a place like this for myself. In the meantime, the girl form my first session put on a Turkish dance number, which was kind of lame, and I spent some time at the movie room. It was interesting to see some guy at one corner getting what seemed to be a long and fabulous blow job, I decided to keep an eye for her. Another guy at another corner giving some girl an erotic massage. She seemed to be enjoying it; perhaps the latter is a way to get a little better service from the girls.
After a while, I was sitting out and some girl, whom I think was the girl giving head at the movie room, approached me. Her name was Lena, from Russia, of course, and although she was a little big, she was still quite beautiful, and besides, I had to get her to give me a blowjob. Soon enough she was sucking my cock in public, and again it seemed forever. Her technique was unparalleled. I should have met her at the movie room where it is a little darker, and maybe I could have enjoyed a public blow job a little longer. Soon enough we were in a room fucking and although she seemed to enjoy a good hard fuck for a while, after 10 minutes she said that she loved sucking cock and wanted to suck me off. I doubt that she loves it and I know that she was just hoping that I come in her mouth and pay her an extra 50 €, but her technique was so good that I had to let her. The problem is that her technique is so good it is too intense and difficult to take it for longer than a minute or two. I told her to start fucking again, and we fucked for perhaps another 5 minutes, when she said that I was a crazy fucker and wanted to blow me again. I just kept fucking her for another 2 minutes or so and then I just stopped.
My final session was in public in the movie room, This little blonde, whose name escapes me, came over and started talking, soon developing into a hand job, and after some negotiations, into a public blowjob and public sex. It was weird! For while, I felt like a porn star, but unfortunately, it seems I was still excited from my lat outing, and I lasted a disappointingly short time. I am just guessing that in public, girls would be less likely to start complaining after 5 or 10 minutes, and would perhaps instead try to show off how good they are. Next time I am doing all my fucking in public!
Anyway, they place is weird, as if all the normal rules of conduct are suddenly suspended. Imagine what it would be like is you could approach any woman in the street and fuck her for 50 €. I hung around for a little longer, scouting my prospects for tomorrow. I noticed a couple of Russian babes and still had an eye on perfect Caroline, who seemed to be very busy. There was also some hot blonde leaning over a handrail, exposing her gorgeous ass and pussy to the world. How many times I have been in strip joints looking at babes like that wishing I could just do over, busy my face in her pussy or start fucking her from behind. Well, here I could. Maybe tomorrow.
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After wondering the streets and some museums for some essential tourism, something to show for, I headed back to my hotel, and then to the Palace. Unfortunately, I had to head back to town to get some money. I was not going to pay the exchange offered by the hotel, and I figured that if I find something interesting in town I might not make it to the Palace, and save myself a bundle. Anyway, I did make it back to the Palace, but it was well past midnight. I should have been there at 6:00 pm Hell, next time I am in town I will save on my hotel and just eat sleep and fuck right here.
After yesterday’s disappointments, I was a little more cautious today. My first session was with Tania, one of the two blue-eyed Ukrainian sisters. They tried to sell me on a threesome, but I was too cautious, and with cause. In the room she sucked my cock for a while and it was great seeing her gorgeous face and those blue eyes looking up at me, with my cock in her mouth. We moved on to sex and as usual, she moaned and groaned like her world was coming to an end, and everything was fine until it became evident to her that I was not going to come in 5 minutes. She did not want any positions other than the 3 standards: missionary, girl on top and doggie. I let her get on top and loved her big breasts bouncing on top of me. I played the game as much as she did, faking it as if I was about to come, but in my mind trying to think of Joan Rivers in lingerie. Thinking I was about to come, she did her best and worked up a sweat bouncing on top of me. I made her work for it. After 15 minutes of fucking we entered a debacle of how long I was going to last, and whether I wanted a full hour. I told her that I would be willing to go for the hour if we were still fucking after 30 minutes. She seemed to be happy with that and let me fuck her without complaining. Of course, I knew that as soon as the 31st minute hit, she would start complaining again. I just fucked her good for another 5 minutes or so and then told her it was enough and reminded her that we still had over 5 minutes. While she cleaned up I went to take a shower, and met her outside. For once, one of the girls had actually worked for a full half hour!
Afterwards I asked the sister if she wanted to fuck. She told me her sister had told her I was good, but she was not interested. Obviously, the thought of actually working for longer than 10 minutes is something that these girls avoid at all cost. Again, unlike what people write in the forums, if girls like you, it is because they know you are a quick finisher, not because you are a good lover.
Anyway, it was nearly 3:00 am And I had my last session with Ruby, again. We started at the empty movie room, where she was hanging with a friend. Of course, both wanted to join me, but I declined and Ruby proceeded to give me a potentially public blowjob, but the place was empty. We went to a near room and had a good time. Unlike our session yesterday, I lasted a little longer, and although she did not openly complain, she did all she could to make me finish as quickly as possible. In any case, even at the end of her shift, it was still enjoyable. It would be nice to catch her during the day, when she is better rested and fresher; she might be a very good fuck. And thus, with great regret, and with great memories, I left the Palace.
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M P Lurker
05-23-09, 09:57
Unlike what some people write on the boards, the girls do not want a stud. They fuck at least 15 or 20 men during a shift. Some men are fat, ugly, old, unattractive, and all are strangers. I doubt that any really enjoy sex. All they want is someone who comes within 5 minutes so they cam move on to the next one. I bet that if the girls develop a liking for you (if you are a regular) it is because you are NOT a very good lover, but rather a quick finisher.Over generalising somewhat.
Only the 15 min processor types have any hope of doing 20 men and then only if very busy. They probably will want to do quick BJ without fucking most likely.
Fortunately many girls are not like that. The "good" girls are more than happy to stay in the room as long as the customer wants and pays. I have done many 60 min sessions and even the odd 90 min.
Some girls don't orgasm easily and need a long extended sex to get there. These girls appreciate a special customer who is willing to get them there, especially if they are near to going home or ready to relax. Some girls do indeed like good sex with a stud or alternatively just a nice guy with good technique for them (he doesn't have to be young and handsome).
I have met plenty of girls willing to have long extended DATY to orgasm. (It uses up session time, which is easy money for them, too). Where is the downside to this for the girl?
Other girls truelly don't want to orgasm, as they are scraed it will make them too tired to work properly. Sometimes these girls give in when the stimulation was too strong for them to hold out, or when close to last customer etc.
But anyone thinking that these working girls never orgasm, is very mistaken. Many girls are willing to have fun in their work and if chemistry is good, anything is possible.
I have to shake my head when I look at some girls with a really miserable look on their face the whole time, and wonder what are they doing there?
One pretty petite blonde (dyed) has a really hot body with beautiful large swinging natural D cups. The down side is the glum look on her face. I always think that if only she could let herself have a good time, she would become very popular and make a fortune too. Instead she heads for new guys and especially likes Asians for some reason. Often exits the room after 10 to 15 mins.
Once I spoke to her once. Fortunately can't remember the name but regulars will guess who I mean. She asked me what I like to do in the room. She said she didn't like any of things that I like, e.g. kissing, DATY, etc. So naturally I didn't try her. I think was clear she wanted to do quick BJ only.
Girls like Thai Bee are the opposite. Absolutely fun loving and out to make you and her have a wonderful time.
Recently tried dark Chantelle (Guadalupe origins but born in Germany and speaks Deutsch, English, French etc.) with big high bottom and pretty face (love those luscious lips). She also turned out to be very fun loving and didn't refuse anything after got her going with a long DATY to start the ball rolling. A hot fucker. Would certainly repeat.
Wanted to try highly recommended super hot Tiara (spelling?) from Germany, or Gabriella (Moldova), but for "pause" and my regulars. Maybe next time.
Yes, while I am there I do my best to convince myself that they are in love with me, and that all the goranign and moaning is for real, but here, in the company of men who know better, I admit that they are professionals, and their sole interest in in yoru wallet, not your love-making skills.
James Bond 007
05-24-09, 02:02
After an overnight flight from across the ocean, I picked up my rental car and headed to my hotel for a brief nap. It was a gorgeous day out and I decided to do some tourist activity first and leave the real action for prime time.
Eventually made my way to Palace at around 9pm. The parking lot was full and I found the last spot. There was a group of French speaking men checking in ahead of me and the hostess gave a brief overview of how things work. After changing and a quick shower, decided to get some food and just watch. Took a seat at bar next to the buffet and observed the girls and customer interaction for a while in front of the money locker. There were some cuties and many that looked a bit too old for this business. But then everyone has different tastes.
After a while, I stepped inside the main area and saw a cutie walking bye and caught her attention. Her name was Mina, a blond girl from the Czech Republic. She has a nice smile and a pretty face. Her service was OK as she doesn’t French kiss and didn’t want DATY. Basically a BBBJ and multiple positions. We told me that CIM, COF and greek was available for an additional fee. She was a decent optifuck.
I chatted briefly with a forum member at the bar who was also from across the ocean. We were talking about how most guests seem to be mainly European and not too many from Americans. He also mentioned the Ukrainian sisters that someone had written about earlier.
My next session was with another blonde Czech girl named Gina, who was also an optifuck. Gina and Mina are apparently friends and they also look similar as well. The service was similar to that of Mina’s. Not too memorable except she has a pretty face.
My last session was with a tall Romanian girl named Michelle. She doesn’t have as an outgoing personality as the earlier girls. She offered DFK, DATY, BBBJ, multiple positions and she was more of a GFE than the other girls. Nice session to end the evening.
Sebastiane
05-24-09, 23:08
I am too tired to write another lengthy report but went to Palace yesterday evening.
Got there around 7-sh and the place was quiet--a lot of girls were just lying on the sofas/chairs waiting to guys. I sat down opposite the swinging sofa and bird-watched! Lots of hot naked bodies. Quite a few made eye contact but I was still biding my time. One Romanian girl whom I see often but only been with once, ages ago, pretty face but too large for my liking, sat next to me and we had a pleasant chat with flirtation but i told her i wasn't interested yet but paid her compliments and left the chance of a later encounter dangling...she left seemingly satisfied. Saw a good looking very tall (redhead?) Romanian too with a GREAT body and was tempted but didn't get round to her.
Went to the kino for a bit--I rarely go there--and a Turkish lady called Emel came all over me. She started sucking my cock and I couldn't then refuse to go to the room. She was sweet but there was not much chemistry and she finished me with a hj.
After showering, I ate some food, and spotted Natasha. She sat and we had a long chat and then I went to the room with her for > 60 minutes which were great as normal. I can totally relax with her. And get great sex every time and GFE. If I wasn't so cynical I'd almost say we were friends.
It was past 9 by the time I left, exhausted, the room with N., and I'd run up a bill higher than I wanted and had to get extra money from the ATM there.
I was also famished and after showering again got more food from the buffet. Natasha came and joined me. We had nice banter.
I saw quite a few more lovely girls (some girl called Victoria and another Turk named Gulshan) whom I'd like to swive but I didn't have the finances or the energy left! So, reluctantly, I bid this place adieu once more. (Indira looked so hot too! What a body!)
Bis spaeter!
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Mongerer Joe
05-25-09, 01:31
Hey,
First of all I'd like to thank you all for the quality information I got from this forum; as a newbie punter and first timer to FKKs it was of great help. This forum is what persuaded me and a friend to make the trip to Frankfurt in the first place and boy was it worth it :)
21-23.05 - Palace
Day one:
I'm sure it's old news for you and it sounds silly (as it does to me now), but entering a FKK for the first time is quite a shock. Reading of it doesn't really prepare you for those first few moments when you find yourself surrounded by naked luscious ladies coming on to you with action on their minds. Though you later learn to discern between them (and this forum helps a lot with that) the first few moments they're all good and gorgeous and you've just entered a place right out of a fantasy.
We arrived around 7PM, got buzzed in, got our robes and some basic directions (half of which I missed cause of the naked ladies at the bar;), stored our valuables, and off we went to the dressing area and showers. By the time we got out and going around the place I was nervous as hell and fit enough to play baseball. The plan was I'd take my time to see how things are done, survey the girls, do all the smart things I read about on the forum, about chilling, observing and selecting good providers. That plan went out the window and into out of space about 15 seconds after I got in the main area. Talk about kids in candyland...
Anyway, the first girl that approached me was one of the two optifiks I'd noticed immediately: blond, very nice body and gorgeous face; strong signs of shark I thought, but I figured that in my state the lack of conversation, chemistry or foreplay wasn't going to be an issue and I'd better get the worse out of the way to gain the experience and know first hand why to avoid that kind of service; it would help clear my head at the same time. Actually, I though I wished I though all that at the time :D, the truth is I could think of fuck all, my mind was a complete blank and "gorgeous naked bomb" were about the only words I could focus on.
Pavlina - Bulgaria
Little to no talk, straight to the room, straight to BBBJ for 5-7 mins, condom, then doggie another 10, then she started complaining about how long it took, with repeated complains every minute or so. Even at the time, I thought her tehnique was very basic, but the visuals were certainly delightful so it didn't bother me much and I had no problem rushing the ending. Great body and face (or so I thought at the time, didn't see her the next days to get a fresh opinion), strong shark, poor tehnique, bad attitude. Never again.
After paying and showering, I was back in the main hall; my friend was not there so I assumed he had 'followed the plan' and taken things slow as well. Now that I could focus on my surroundings, I the layout of the place became more evident and I started checking out the girls. My friend came out soon after and we exchanged opinions, chatting to remove the last of the nervousness and supporting each other in this period of great hardship. Refused most of the girls that came as we needed to rest, till around one hour later when a black girl came to chat. I hadn't had the pleasure before and it was on my todo list, so after some basic chatting we were off to the room.
Laura (I think, I'm terrible with names) - Madagascar
Friendlier then the first one, she took a few minutes to chat in a kind of professional way, ask what I liked, what I wanted to do and all that and we were off to touching and BBBJ. Tehnique was better then the first one, but still average. She took her time, then we did doggie for a while and finally BBBJ to completion; 30 mins or close to it. Good body (except for the very weird feeling sillicones - bottom part of the breast felt like numerous waves), okeish face, result oriented, okeish tehnique, friendly attitude though no GFE at all. Mostly went with her for the novelty; okeish overall, but wouldn't repeat.
Payment and shower and by this time I was getting a little tired (early wake-up, work, flight, etc) so I thought I'd try out the massage facilities, as I enjoy giving and getting massages. For some reason I expected some of the girls to be trained and give massages so I was a little daunted when instead of two goregoues naked two girls I saw someone that looked like she could break me in half like a twig. Ended up taking 30 mins of relaxation massage (30 euro) with the bigger one, blonde strong lady. Pretty friendly and open, we started chatting and the whole experience was relaxing and stress free, probably the best conversation of the evening on the female side, definitely a do-it-again thing; v. decent massage, too. Afterwards I took a shower, met with my friend, ate dinner - pretty decent food, exchanged stories and we went around the place, changing locations every now and then, watching who went in and out of the rooms, who looked happy and who not, that sort of thing. We were both sated and interested in sorting out the sharks and finding some good girls for later on, and the whole process was new and interesting. At some point a girl got on the pole and she was quite acrobatic about it, which persuaded me to try her next.
Denisa - Romania
I'd read some of the reports concerning her and they were mixed and her face isn't really my type, but her great ass and cool dancing made me invite her over. We chatted for a few minutes, I complimented her on her dancing asking if she dances in the room as well, at which her reply was something like "in the room I dance on top of you". It was a good enough line and I was in a pretty good mood so I laughed about it and we went on to the room. We chatted for a few minutes, mostly me trying to persuade her to dance, which she dodged out of several times, until she flat out refused, so we moved to touching and BBBJ. Okeish tehnique, condom, two positions, then after maybe 15 mins she started complaining about how long it took. Sharkish thing to say, but she said it with passion (like a small child sometimes gets mad ) and in a funny way. If i weren't in a great mood from dinner, massage and chilling out it would've probably bothered me, but like this it only amused me. She then asked about CIM and I thought wth not, she had kept me amused until that time and I was in a good mood so she BBBJ to CIM which was undirectly the best part of my evening
*we interrupt this program to bring you a word from our sponsors*
- flight to Frankfurt - 290 return
- hotel for 3 nights - 250
- entrance to the Palace - 75
- FS + CIM - 100
- hearing a girl say: "Aaaargh, it went all the way in my throat. My tonsils vibrated, couldn't you feel it?" in a pissed off voice ... ... .... fucking priceless!
*now back to our usual program*
That made my evening and it still makes me laugh everytime I remember it. Face okeish, body great, with v small round ass - good visuals, tehnique okeish nothing special, attitude sharkish. She's a shark in my book and I wouldn't take her again, but she did manage to create one of the top moments on this trip.
More shower, more drinks, more fending off girls and chatting; I went for another massage with the same masseuze, this time Thai - about half of it focuses on stretching which was very relaxing, the other half consisting of a sort of prodding which was out of my confort level, borderline painful sometime, but apparently it's the way it's supposed to feel; it was ok, but couldn't notice any particular effect on my body or mood; shower again, then my friend returned from one very good session with one of the girls. I wasn't finding anyone else interesting at the time and she was quite attractive and different from the other girls, so after a while I called her over. Before we get to that though , there's a girl I wanted to ask about, tall, slim, exotic, long brown hair, v cute face. She was without doubt the most succesful that evening (in terms of number of customers, smiles on their faces and virtually 0 waiting time). I kept trying to get her, seeing her get go to the locker area with a client, disappearing for maybe 10-15 mins, only to see her again with another client going in the rooms. This went on all night long. No idea where she usually stays and how I managed to miss her, but for the life of me I couldn't catch her free. Maybe one of the seniors here would be kind enough to tell me her name. She was there on Thirsday night, but not Friday and Saturday night.
Salome - Brazil
Not so tall, a skin of a darker shade, long black hair, great body, v cute face, sexy voice and unBelievable eyes. Definitely my best for the evening. We chatted for quite a bit in the main area, she was very friendly and open, very relaxing to talk to, 0 sharkish attitude. Staring into those gorgeous eyes soon made me move us to the room, where we continued chatting for a while, laughing, overall having a good time. GFE type attitude, lots of fondling, good long BBBJ, several positions, more BBBJ all with great smiles and those gorgeous eyes of hers; she really worked for her money, as I was quite tired and satiated at the time, but she eventually made me come. We talked for another 5-10 mins and then we went out. Total time was around 45-50 minutes.
Great body, cute face, gorgeous eyes, sexy voice, good hard working tehnique and very pleasant attitude. Definitely a do it again for me. Second on my top 3 for the trip.
Left around 3:30
I'll continue later with day 2.
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Mongerer Joe
05-25-09, 11:26
Day 2
After a very long and tiring Day 1, I fell asleep at around 4 and woke up at 9, which was hardly enough sleeping time for me. The plan was we'd visit Frankfurt for a bit, do some shopping, and then rest, so we can get an early start at Oase the next day. That plan got hit by a bus, so after a full day of walking around we ended up at the Palace again, maybe around 8PM. I don't wear a watch, so hours and durations are very relative. Sessions might feel like 20 min, but actually be more or less then that, but in the end, what matters for me is how I end up feeling, less then whether it was actually 20 or 40 minutes.
Feeling wiser and significantly less hungry then the previous day, we took our time around the hall, watching the action, listening to music and all around chilling. Line-up seemed 70% the same as the previous day, with some girls missing and some new ones. I noted that the girl I was interested in the day before, the tall slim model-type brown haired one, wasn't around so I started looking for other options. Other then Salome, which wasn't working that night, I had no interest in the line-up from the previous day, so I focused on the new girls. After a time I saw someone I liked: a tallish blonde girl, with big breasts and a very cute face. She was chilling at the far end of the bar in the dancing area, didn't even see her until I got up to get myself another drink. Hadn't noticed her hunting at all so she must have been busy in the rooms. We started chatting and she told me her name and where she was from, though for the life of me I can't remember any of them (Laura again maybe? Not a clue, hope you can help me on this one; some small east european country, maybe Belarus, not Hungary nor Poland; didn't see her joining any of the other girls that night), as I was distracted by her cute voice and very nice smile. She's 27 with very nice forms on the body, big soft breasts that felt natural. Didn't have a tight look to her body (like say. Mona or Denisa), but that's why I liked it anyway.
Blonde27. East european
Went to the room for about 30 minutes. We chatted for a bit, her with the pretty smile and cute voice and me completely relaxed and enjoying myself. Don't remember much of that session other then that I had a very good time and it left me satisfied and in a very good mood. Oh, I do remember the muscles on her upper butt, as feeling them working under my hands during doggy was highly arrousing. Haven't felt something similar with any of the other girls. She got all wet and squishy after a while which made it even better. Good body, cute face and voice, open, friendly part GFE attitude, result oriented, definitely a do it again. At the time I was thinking of going with her again the same night, if someone more alluring didn't come along.
Feeling energized after the session, took a shower, met with my friend, traded tales and took dinner. Even though I was sated I was pretty alert, trying to find someone interesting for later on. As the evening progressed though, I got more and more bored and sleepy, especially during the times my friend was gone and I had no one interesting to chat with. The girls all looked boring, especially since I was tired and sated and sex wasn't what I was looking for. Speaking of which, what's the protocol on talking to others in FKKs? I would've liked to swap stories with some of the other bears, especially since I'd seen some of them the day before as well; the prospect of approaching and maybe disturbing them during their relaxation time felt daunting, so in the end I skipped it. One good moment was when I was chilling on the swinging couch in one corner, with a group of 3-4 guys on my left. Some girls came over to chat with them and asked me to join as well, thinking I was one of their group. A couple of minutes of laughter followed as I asked the guys if they were missing one team member for the full game and we swapped jokes on the subject. Then more waiting, boredom and sleepiness, as I couldn't even spot blonde27
What felt like a very long time later, someone finally caught my eye. This girl looked Alive! Had seen her for only a few minutes that night, so she must've been busy in the rooms. She was walking around all smiley and friendly, made me feel good just seing her flutter about, as her attitude was so lively and different from the other girls. Pretty tall, with very good curves and big luscious breasts. A big feel to her, though not fat at all, she wore a pink outfit, with her breasts overflowing her straining top. I could feel chemistry at work before even calling her over and chatting with her for a few minutes, then moving to a room.
Laura. Spain
Definitely my best experience for the trip, one I absolutely have to repeat the next times I visit. Her personality is exactly my type for a GF and her body is highly arrousing, if you're not into small minion girls. Can't describe the encounter in detail for fear of taking something away from it, but it lasted almost 2 hours and included lots of chatting, laughing, fondling and reciprocal massage (she's had training and she gives a v good massage), a truly GFE experience; she's a very passionate sexual being with a kinky streak in her and on any other day I would've fucked her till I dropped, and probably even after that. Alas, I was really tired, close to shooting dust and I was enjoying her company too much to be persuaded into fucking, which really ticked her off. She got horny and demanded I fuck her, which made it all the more delightfully better refusing to do so. I told like I like to see girls touch themselves so she started caressing herself so, I helped her come by fingering both her holes. She moaned very convincingly and as she came she screamed something in spanish, then stuck her fingers in her pussy and pulled them out all gleaming with cum, to show me she had really come. Very entertaining experience, quite a memory to have. Finished the session with a titty fuck and BBBJ to completion, then a few more minutes of chatting. As she put it in one of our chats, the girls are there to sell illusions, and I thoroughly enjoyed hers.
The evening was close to an end, I waited for my friend to come and left a few minutes before 4AM.
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Ozzy Ozzman
05-25-09, 21:36
Same with Natalie of Belarus, who is undoubtedly the PSE-provider you describe. Yeah, a really great BBBJ. But once was enough for me too...Funny I saw her working two nights last week, and, although I myself was not that tempted --there were plenty of other more GFE opportunities-- I did think to myself: Wow, she is still looking quite good.
OrtosOrtos,
When doing a search of the old reports on another girl (Lina / Evelina), I came across this mention of Natalie of Belarus (report # 933). I know this is a long shot, but I wonder whether this could be the same Belarusian Natalie who is now (or used to be) working at Darling Cabaret in Prague.
The Natalie I'm talking about must be 33-35 yo now, I think. She is very petite and slim, with man made breasts that are quite hard and a great ass. Her face is in my opinion rather pretty (mostly due to lots of make up I guess), but her facial features are very distinctly Slavic. Teeth do not look so great, though, as she is a heavy smoker. She is blond. I know she used to work in Germany at one point before going to Prague, but I can't remember where. Her home town is Minsk.
She does give a very nice PSE and will happily allow DFK, fingering and COB without any surcharge, something which in my experience is extremely rare in the Prague tourist traps.
Does this in any way seem to fit the description of the Natalie mentioned in this thread?
The last time I saw "my" Natalie was about a year ago, when, after staying one week in Berlin on "summer holiday", I got on a train to Prague and stayed there a couple of nights just to see her. Sadly, she wouldn't do any escorting to my hotel, so I had to settle for working against the clock (literally, you're on a buzzer) in that damn cabaret instead.
Ozzy
Vito Corleone
05-26-09, 10:43
Unlike what some people write on the boards, the girls do not want a stud. They fuck at least 15 or 20 men during a shift. Some men are fat, ugly, old, unattractive, and all are strangers. I doubt that any really enjoy sex. All they want is someone who comes within 5 minutes so they cam move on to the next one. I bet that if the girls develop a liking for you (if you are a regular) it is because you are NOT a very good lover, but rather a quick finisher.
You totally blew my cover. It's a secret, but I guess you busted me out. I always cum between 5-7 minutes, then spend 3 hours cuddling & talking about current events.
The girls develop a liking for regulars because of their deep pockets, whether you bust a nut in 5 minutes or 2 hours.
Vito Corleone
05-26-09, 10:55
Salome - Brazil
Not so tall, a skin of a darker shade, long black hair, great body, v cute face, sexy voice and unBelievable eyes. Definitely my best for the evening. We chatted for quite a bit in the main area, she was very friendly and open, very relaxing to talk to, 0 sharkish attitude. Staring into those gorgeous eyes soon made me move us to the room, where we continued chatting for a while, laughing, overall having a good time. GFE type attitude, lots of fondling, good long BBBJ, several positions, more BBBJ all with great smiles and those gorgeous eyes of hers; she really worked for her money, as I was quite tired and satiated at the time, but she eventually made me come. We talked for another 5-10 mins and then we went out. Total time was around 45-50 minutes.
Great body, cute face, gorgeous eyes, sexy voice, good hard working tehnique and very pleasant attitude. Definitely a do it again for me. Second on my top 3 for the trip.
I also enjoyed my GFE session with Salome. Planned to repeat with her until she demanded 100E for what she thought was 31 minutes. I thought she was joking, but was serious. I pointed to my watch & told her we were in the room for only 27 minutes. I joked & told her she owed me 3 minutes. I stood my ground & she eventually stormed off. Epitome of a SHARK. YMMV.
Ortos,
When doing a search of the old reports on another girl (Lina / Evelina), I came across this mention of Natalie of Belarus (report # 933). I know this is a long shot, but I wonder whether this could be the same Belarusian Natalie who is now (or used to be) working at Darling Cabaret in Prague.
The Natalie I'm talking about must be 33-35 yo now, I think. She is very petite and slim, with man made breasts that are quite hard and a great ass. Her face is in my opinion rather pretty (mostly due to lots of make up I guess), but her facial features are very distinctly Slavic. Teeth do not look so great, though, as she is a heavy smoker. She is blond. I know she used to work in Germany at one point before going to Prague, but I can't remember where. Her home town is Minsk.
She does give a very nice PSE and will happily allow DFK, fingering and COB without any surcharge, something which in my experience is extremely rare in the Prague tourist traps.
Does this in any way seem to fit the description of the Natalie mentioned in this thread?
The last time I saw "my" Natalie was about a year ago, when, after staying one week in Berlin on "summer holiday", I got on a train to Prague and stayed there a couple of nights just to see her. Sadly, she wouldn't do any escorting to my hotel, so I had to settle for working against the clock (literally, you're on a buzzer) in that damn cabaret instead.
Ozzy
Wow! Where did you dig that old quote up from? Talk about doing thorough research of back reports, really, that quote must be at least four years old...
Anyway, Natalie of Belarus at Palace was one of the clubs first real stars when she started out, so long ago. I have no idea whether it is the same one. Would be one hell of a coincidence if it was. The Palace Natalie did absolutely have fake breasts and she was always sporting a face heavy with make-up. But she gave a top-PSE peformance. She used to like to wear a belt as well. She was petite but I would not describe her as very petite...
Next time you see her ask if she has been working/living in FFM.
O
Ozzy Ozzman
05-26-09, 21:28
Wow! Where did you dig that old quote up from? Talk about doing thorough research of back reports, really, that quote must be at least four years old...
Anyway, Natalie of Belarus at Palace was one of the clubs first real stars when she started out, so long ago. I have no idea whether it is the same one. Would be one hell of a coincidence if it was. The Palace Natalie did absolutely have fake breasts and she was always sporting a face heavy with make-up. But she gave a top-PSE peformance. She used to like to wear a belt as well. She was petite but I would not describe her as very petite...
Next time you see her ask if she has been working/living in FFM.
OHe he. Yes, as I mentioned, I was doing some research about Lina, an old timer and a girl I'll readily admit to being completely besotted by.
It is interesting to see how much attention she's got in this thread through the last four years or so. Most early reports are negative (I see you were/are no fan) and label her as a "processor". This seem to fit well with what she's told me about how she would fuck anyone at anytime and be doing four or even five guys an hour in her early years. She and another girl (presumably Linda) were allegedly being so active that other girls were complaining that they (Lina and Linda) were taking all their work. Nowadays, I think she is the complete package of beauty and niceness and I've got nothing but good to say about her.
Also interesting to see this quote from February 2006:
Lina told me that her intention is to work at FKK for one year to make money for school, and then retire from the FKK world (I think she started at FKK Palace around August 2005). So, she has a goal, and maybe this leads her to seem like a "processor". Luckily she's still here. Now she's saying she may be working through this year, but then wants to quit the business. I hope this statement holds as true as the quote from 2006.
As for Natalie, there seems to be a possibility that it's the same girl, albeit a slim one. I'll most likely be going to Prague this autumn, so if she's still there I'll ask her if she was indeed at Palace.
Ozzy
Can someone give me some detail on how to get to The Palace directly from the airport by train?
Thanks
Basketcase
05-27-09, 20:45
Can someone give me some detail on how to get to The Palace directly from the airport by train?
Thanks
Ourtran,
Here are a couple of posts that contain some descriptions on how to get to Palace from the airport.
By train straight from airport 880159 - these details were from May 2009.
by Train 825822
By train via Hbf 768912
By taxi 768825
by train via Hbf 725020
Also very handy is the train timetable that can be accessed by:
www.bahn.de
You can also change the language to English from Deutsch.
A number of writers would have said in response to you is "RTFF and use the search function".
Cheers,
Vito Corleone
05-28-09, 10:50
Can someone give me some detail on how to get to The Palace directly from the airport by train?
Thanks
Take the ICE train to Giessen, then ask the taxi driver to take you to Palace.
Do a fcuk n search!
easiest way is by train to hbf and then taxi....
Ourtran,
Here are a couple of posts that contain some descriptions on how to get to Palace from the airport.
By train straight from airport 880159 - these details were from May 2009.
by Train 825822
By train via Hbf 768912
By taxi 768825
by train via Hbf 725020
Also very handy is the train timetable that can be accessed by:
www.bahn.de
You can also change the language to English from Deutsch.
A number of writers would have said in response to you is "RTFF and use the search function".
Cheers,
M P Lurker
05-29-09, 00:47
today had my normal [CodeWord125] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord125) by bee and then pause for a while.
was going to do daniella (romania) but she had disappeared for a very long time. so in the end was between kiara (a reputedly very hot girl) and mitsu.
yes mitsu is really japanese from osaka. seems to speak japanese quite o.k. even goes with some japanese customers.
mitsu has wondeful tits but not really curvy enough in the bottom. but still bee had recommended her. mitsu speaks english o.k. too.
mitsu was chatting me up while playing with my chingko under the towel and i had determined that her mangko was soft and smooth shaved (unlike those japan pornos).
riddle:
what does a japanese monger say when answering the phone?
ans: mushi mushi
in the room i went straight for fondling those firm naturals and starting kissing. my dick was rising quickly so i knew was going to be a good session .
she enjoyed the daty very much and then i soon realised she was a bit of a screamer.
great bbbj followed.
she was quite tight so we used plenty of lube. when orgasmed (with much screaming) her own juices were fine, but she had to go and [CodeWord134] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134).
returned quickly and we resumed the fucking. doggy and mish. all good.
she was a hell of a lot of fun and just like a gf to me. its great to find another girl really into enjoying her work.
highly recommended.
tastes great (all lips) and a non smoker.
didn't ask for anal or cim so don't know if she does these.
she asked me for 100 e even though i believe we went slightly over the hour. she probably deducted time for her [CodeWord134] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134). i just didn't want to stop screwing her.
obviously added to the must repeat list.
fun fun fun!
M P Lurker
05-29-09, 01:09
Ourtran,
Here are a couple of posts that contain some descriptions on how to get to Palace from the airport.A tip for those returning from Palace late e.g. after midnight.
U6 and U7 still seem to be running till at least 1AM but U4 from BockenheimerWarte cease just after midnight.
So take U6/U7 all the way from Industriehoff to Hauptwache.
Change to S Bahn then to get back to main station Hauptbahnhof (still running fairly often after midnight probably till 1AM or so.
Hessen Bub
05-30-09, 16:52
Natalie = "Miss Minks" (former Michelle @ ATL in Altenstadt) was last seen at Paradise in Stuttgart like half a year ago, I fucked her there, before that she was working at Artemis in Berlin. Can't tell you where she is now, but she does give a great blow job, likes to be licked and fingered in both holes and doesn't mind a long and hard porno session. Could do her again. If you find her - tell me!!!
HB
West By Sun
05-31-09, 17:48
Riddle:
What does a Japanese Monger say when answering the phone?
Ans: Mushi Mushi
Do you think that " mushi mushi" really exists in japanese vocabulary?LOL
WBS
Vito Corleone
06-01-09, 01:36
Another important aspect of the Kino is the girls know other guys are watching. They are less likely to give crappy service if they know other potential customers are watching. I often insist the first time I session with a new girl is in the Kino.
That said, some girls really don't want to have sex in the Kino. It does not follow that she is a shark just because she doesn't want to blow you/have sex with you in the Kino.
Plus, I kind of like making eye contact with other girls while getting blown in the Kino.
I think it is about time you write a trip report!
After a so-so visit to Oase, I also visited Palace. I had expected it to be less impressive than Oase, but after not sessioning with anyone at Oase, I did have one session at Palace. I spent a very brief 10 minutes or so with a pretty, skinny blonde (Paris Hilton-type) who claimed she was from Germany named Sara. She spoke English well, and I thought we had a vibe going, but when we got into the room, she took care of me pretty quickly. Perhaps I bear some responsibility, as I was pretty tired -- but I've also had much better, much more passionate sessions. I shouldn't have let her get on top... she kept asking to, and once I let her, it was all over.
Without the passion, it felt about as satisfying as masturbation -- and maybe worse. I got my rocks off looking at a beautiful woman, but there was no additional "wow," plus I was out 50E, and I took some risk of disease. Now, I know there are probably better candidates if I wanted something more memorable... but if I'm paying and choosing, I want someone who strikes me as hot. If I'm willing to compromise on my ideals of looks, I think I might as well go do regular dating.
I found the Palace facilities better than Oase (though the lack of an outdoor area is disappointing), the food much better, and the girls prettier (7s and 8s compared to 6s and 7s). Aside from Sara, a little Ukranian named Yulia was very tempting to me. She seemed to be pretty kinky -- I saw her take two guys into a room -- but a very quick processor as well. There were also the brassy Austrian in a pageboy cut, Larissa, and one whose name I didn't get ... she seemed to avoid me. She had a large, angular face like the model Kathy Ireland. I'm not too bummed about that too -- she was a little too pretty to want to defile, and I already had the experience of running into girls who are picky. (see my Oase report.) I suppose that's good, these girls have some choice in who they go with.
If I'm ever in the Frankfurt area again, I might give Palace a shot -- but at an entry fee of 75E and one session at 50E, that's already pretty steep. I suppose your best deal on these places is by volume, but as you might see with my experience with Sara, I can be oddly particular. If I just wanted the wham-bam-thank-you-maam, FKKs would be great places. Don't get me wrong -- I love the concept of just lounging around with lots of beautiful girls about and picking one when the moods strikes you. It sure beats the very deliberate nature of seeing escorts -- but the German model doesn't seem like it's for me. I've had good experiences with the Brazilian model (termas), and maybe I'd enjoy the Thai/Philippines one if I ever catch a serious case of that yellow fever.
Just my 2 cents. I got to Palace from tips on this board, so I'm just giving back!
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Virgin Lover
06-02-09, 04:56
The previous newby report on Palace was similar to mine, so thought I'd add my 2 cents. Got to Palace around 10pm on a Saturday night (May 23rd), and was surprised that it wasn't very crowded. Seems like more ladies than guys that night. One gal mentioned that because there was a football game that day, that it usually isn't as crowded, though Saturday afternoons are more crowded.
Spent most of my time relaxing and checking out the ladies. I concur that they're in the 7+ range. I thought the food was just okay, but I haven't been to any other FKK's to compare it with.
Was about to sit down on the couch to relax when a Thai girl struck up a conversation. I moved over to talk to her. It turns out it's Didi, who many have spoken about on this forum. Being Asian myself, Didi said most Asian guys avoid her. I think it's probably because the Asian guys get the Asian girls anywhere in Asia, so they're probably after the blond hair, blue eyed ladies. Didi seemed very personable, though I didn't get a room with her. She's been at Palace for about 6 months and has a 6-year-old daughter. She is from the Issan area of Thailand, and married a German guy. It didn't work out, so she works to support her daughter. After a while, we went our own separate way. She kept to herself for quite some time, but later in the evening when I decided to give her a try, she was know where to be found. She already had a friend.
Finally, I did meet Gina from the Czech Republic. She's a cute blond with her brunette roots starting to show. She's a little bigger than what I normally prefer, as I tend to gravitate to the petite ones. In the room, the almost immediately starts to upsell past the original 30 minutes. I usually last a long time (too long sometimes), so thought I'd see how the first 30 minutes was before I decide to extend it. Well, she started with a very quick BBBJ, then we did mish, then she seemed to be bored, so she wanted to do CG. All the while complaining that she has to work until 4:00AM, so didn't want to tire herself out. Anyway, after 15 minutes, we finished, though I didn't finish. Finished the 30 minutes with some light touching to make sure I got my money's worth.
Stayed until a little after 1:00am, then made my way back to my hotel. Overall, my first visit to Palace was good, but I'd make my decision on the girls based on all your recommendations on this board. Thank you all for all your past comments.
M P Lurker
06-02-09, 08:34
After a so-so visit to Oase, I also visited Palace. I had expected it to be less impressive than Oase, but after not sessioning with anyone at Oase, I did have one session at Palace. Hey J-me-off (sorry, your handle seemed amusing),
No sessions at Oase and 1 at Palace! That makes entry price expensive. You seriously need to note the names of some of the highly recommended girls on this forum.
Make sure you attend the place at a prime time too.
See my past reports where I found plenty of hot good girls to choose from.
ML
Ekliges Lauern
06-02-09, 12:25
Aside from Sara, a little Ukranian named Yulia was very tempting to me. She seemed to be pretty kinky -- I saw her take two guys into a room -- but a very quick processor as well.
Just a quick note. Julia (or Yulia) is one of the top performers in the club. Yes you will see her returning from the room with an endless string of guys. The reason is she delivers good service.
Thanks for the review.
Just a quick note. Julia (or Yulia) is one of the top performers in the club. Yes you will see her returning from the room with an endless string of guys. The reason is she delivers good service.
Thanks for the review.
Pass Auf!! Don't mix up your Julias...There is a Julia from Romania, a true processor, who tells newbies she is from the Ukraine, but she is actually as Romanian as they come. Blonde hair, smallish in stature, with characteristic Chinese characters tattooed down her spine. The other Julia who is Russian speaking could hardly be described as "little" and she does give superb service in zimmer...not a processor. I bet he was referring to the Romanian Julia. They both have blonde hair...
Ortos
Yes, Ortos.- I think you're right. Your description is spot-on. I guess I didn't miss out, eh? Anyone know who the pretty Kathy Ireland type I missed out on was?
Pass Auf!! Don't mix up your Julias...There is a Julia from Romania, a true processor, who tells newbies she is from the Ukraine, but she is actually as Romanian as they come. Blonde hair, smallish in stature, with characteristic Chinese characters tattooed down her spine. The other Julia who is Russian speaking could hardly be described as "little" and she does give superb service in zimmer...not a processor. I bet he was referring to the Romanian Julia. They both have blonde hair...
Ortos
Vito Corleone
06-03-09, 01:50
Yes, Ortos.- I think you're right. Your description is spot-on. I guess I didn't miss out, eh? Anyone know who the pretty Kathy Ireland type I missed out on was?
Kathy Ireland type? Not quite sure who that is. It has been a month since I last visited so she might be new. HB, do you have any idea? Kathy Ireland was a supermodel during the late 80's & 90's most famous for her Sports Illustrated swimsuit issue.
Ekliges Lauern
06-03-09, 02:25
Pass Auf!! Don't mix up your Julias...There is a Julia from Romania, a true processor, who tells newbies she is from the Ukraine, but she is actually as Romanian as they come. Blonde hair, smallish in stature, with characteristic Chinese characters tattooed down her spine. The other Julia who is Russian speaking could hardly be described as "little" and she does give superb service in zimmer...not a processor. I bet he was referring to the Romanian Julia. They both have blonde hair...
Ah yes, I had completely forgotten about ersatz Julia. I've never actually run into her.
Genuine Julia, who is an excellent choice for a Kino BJ or a hot time ins Zimmer is pictures 85-91 on the Palace website. I always thought she was a bit more of a redhead than a blonde.
Basketcase
06-03-09, 06:57
Yes, Ortos.- I think you're right. Your description is spot-on. I guess I didn't miss out, eh? Anyone know who the pretty Kathy Ireland type I missed out on was?
Jmioffee,
I am sorry that you did not enjoy Oase, that you did not think that there was anyone that you would go with and that Sunny gave you the brush off. I am not sure why as Sunny to me seems an equal opportunities type of gal as Devilspinkick says 888754 . Business is business.
Anyway, I have had some experiences of Yulia (Romania) and these are documented in the attached trip report from March 2008 where in one visit I went with her 4 times and documented in the trip report: 725020. Yes, that is correct, I went with Yulia (Romania) four times.
Just thinking on your description the nearest girl at Palace that I can think fits your Kathy Ireland type is maybe Vanessa (Germany) who I discuss in this attached trip report: 821739. If Vanessa (Germany) is the same lady then you did not miss very much as my friend and I received less than satisfactory service and put a downer on my visit. Yes, optifick material for the men that like to fuck with their eyes.
All the best,
Yes, Ortos.- I think you're right. Your description is spot-on. I guess I didn't miss out, eh? Anyone know who the pretty Kathy Ireland type I missed out on was?
Don't know about the Kathy Ireland type...I generally don't go for Irish girls at Fkks anyway :))
But about Julia from Romania: I did NOT say she was a bad session, only that she tends to be a no-nonsence, let's-get-down-to business processor type. I might put Czech Lena in the same mould. Julia is perhaps one of the most attractive girls there (to some guys, at least) and she is extremely professional, esp when it comes down to bbbjcim. I think if you like that type of session vs a longer, slow gfe session, you might like her. But she probably will not DFK or if so I doubt with passion, and certainly will not spend any extra time with you outside the room in a "let's get to know each other first" type of way. Funny, I first ran into her when she was extremely young, just starting out in the business at World, way back when the place first opened. Then she had unenhanced A tits, and reddish short hair. She was a real find back then, very passionate and eager to please. Great almost GFE session. But as so often happens, time takes its toll, not only on the body, but often more on the attitude and she became jaded and morphed into what she now is/has been at Palace for a good four years or so...Good luck with her, and YMMV...
Ortos
Hessen Bub
06-03-09, 09:29
Kathy Ireland type? Not quite sure who that is. It has been a month since I last visited so she might be new. HB, do you have any idea? Kathy Ireland was a supermodel during the late 80's & 90's most famous for her Sports Illustrated swimsuit issue.
http://www.topnews.in/files/Kathy_Ireland.jpg
No idea.
HB
http://www.topnews.in/files/Kathy_Ireland.jpg
No idea.
HB
That photo reminds me of German Andrea at World. The hair and the face are similar.
Pass Auf!! Don't mix up your Julias...There is a Julia from Romania, a true processor, who tells newbies she is from the Ukraine, but she is actually as Romanian as they come. Blonde hair, smallish in stature, with characteristic Chinese characters tattooed down her spine. The other Julia who is Russian speaking could hardly be described as "little" and she does give superb service in zimmer...not a processor. I bet he was referring to the Romanian Julia. They both have blonde hair...
Ortos
I have to agree with Ortos about the Julia that he describes .. I dare to say that she is even worst ... She made an offer for 100 for slow sex bla bla bla
Hardly 30 sec of BBBJ and she was really on a hury to finish with me ..
Total time spend 15 minutes ... when we head towards the safeboxes , I just gave her a 50 with a smile ... pointing at my watch ...
Stay away
Also an other one that looks very Good ( sorry I was never good in names ) is a big boobed ( she says Spanish from Canary Islands ) just nothing to writte home about..
A very interesting one that I found last week , A blond one , curlly hairs .. normally sits by the swimming pool , small boobs but very friendly girls ... she says she is from Italy... really good .. lots of BBBJ whille we were having a chat and smoking a cigarette .. and then almost 20 minutes in the room .. just for a 50
I think that I should not let my self to follow the boobs lol
A very interesting one that I found last week , A blond one , curlly hairs .. normally sits by the swimming pool , small boobs but very friendly girls ... she says she is from Italy... really good .. lots of BBBJ whille we were having a chat and smoking a cigarette .. and then almost 20 minutes in the room .. just for a 50
I think that I should not let my self to follow the boobs lol
Yiasou Koumpare Gestral!
If in your reference to a curly haired blond above you are talking about a day-shift girl, I bet you mean a girl called Nicoletta, a long-time Romanian girl, who now claims to be from Italy. Interestingly, when she first started out at Atlantis some years ago, she always claimed to be from Romania, but in those days there was no particular stigma attached to being from Romania, there way there is today...
Pote na'rtheis kato ston nisi mas; ekome top-action twra stin voreia plevra tis prasinis grammis...check it out!
Ortos
Ozzy Ozzman
06-03-09, 22:21
Also an other one that looks very Good ( sorry I was never good in names ) is a big boobed ( she says Spanish from Canary Islands ) just nothing to writte home about.. That sounds to me like Laura. Long, dark hair, big breasts and a nice face. She's from the Canary Islands and lives in Madrid when not working. I spoke to her some months ago. She was good looking and seemed like a nice girl. Didn't go with her, though, as I was waiting for someone else, or maybe I was too tired. Haven't seen her since, strangely enough, and I've somewhat regretted the missed opportunity.
So, if you would be so kind as to give a few more details of this presumably lackluster experience, it would be much appreciated. Nice to know what I (didn't) miss. (Mongerer Joe seems to have reviewed her favourably very recently, BTW.)
Thanks!
Ozzy
Ozzy Ozzman
06-04-09, 22:04
I recently spent a couple of days at Palace. I had numerous sessions with the girl who is my # 1 ATF. I had one session with Roxanna, who is my second favourite at Palace and whom I have recommended many time previously. A true PSE! She mentioned maybe moving to GT, with its outdoor facilities, at least for the summer.
Also got to try a couple of new (for me) girls, whom I'll review:
Jena / Yena (half German, half Spanish)
At least I think Jena was her name. A pretty, dark-haired girl of medium build. Big bolt ons. She said she had worked all over the place, I don't remember how long she said she'd been at Palace.
I was sitting in the big couch by the bar, watching for any girls that I fancied, when I was approached by Jena. She sat beside me, we introduced ourselves and then started kissing. She was good looking, and, judging by her passionate kissing, seemed like a nice girl. As I hadn't popped earlier that day and was quite horny, I decided to take her to a room without further ado.
In the room I more or less immediately realized that I'd been duped when she got out that damn menu and started to explain the various extras. This is always a bad sign, but unfortunately it's too late to back down by then. And sure enough, the passion she had hinted at outside the room dissipated and the foreplay and sex that followed was very mechanical. Even though I should know better than to award a girl like this any extras, I decided to go for a CIM finish. Almost immediately as I was coming, Jena pulled away from my dick and started to spit out cum. Maybe my Peter North-sized load was proving too much for her. I was far from done and had to wank myself for the rest of my orgasm as Jena sat beside me spitting and completely neglecting my dick. When finished I had lots of cum all over my stomach and chest, and Jena had gotten some in her hair. All this should of course have been in Jena's mouth. There was also a big wet spot left on the mattress that had drained through the sheets. Jena "elegantly" covered this up by placing a pillow over it, in the middle of the bed.
Well, the session notched up one more good looking chick fucked for my records, but it didn't do much more than that. Definitely would not repeat.
Luckily, my other new experience was far better.
Irina (Russia)
Blond hair, medium sized natural boobs, quite tall.
I was approached by Irina when resting in the back rest area by the massage room. I had just done a session and didn't feel overly ready for a new one just yet. I was laying on my side with my head in the corner of the sofa and facing the other, right angle section of it. Irina lay down on her stomach at a right angle to me, with her face next to mine (we were laying face to face in an L, if you get the picture). She started DFK'ing me and I responded, although a little hesitantly as I didn't want to get "trapped" into another session so early. Her hand then found its way inside my robe and started to caress my cock. By this time I told her that I had just finished a session and needed to relax. She took her finger over my mouth, as to shush me, and told me I could just keep on relaxing and she would blow me where I lay. I let her hand play a little more with my cock, but when I felt I was getting pretty hard, I had to muster all my willpower and tell her firmly that now was not the time. She got up without saying a word and then threw a pillow at my head. I couldn't tell if she was upset or if she was just playing around. She left the rest area.
As I was drifting into sleep, maybe 15 minutes later, Irina was back. She placed herself in exactly the same position as last time and asked if I was ready for her now. Before I could answer she started kissing me again and fondling my dick. I went hard right away and was now too horny to turn her down. We kissed for a while as she wanked my dick. I then pulled aside my robe and she started blowing me. A very good blow job indeed! We then went to a room, where Irina continued to suck me. As I was unsure of how much cash I had left and the Palace ATM doesn't work with foreign credit cards (my plan had been to leave the club for a few hours and restock on cash), I told Irina that I didn't want to cum in her mouth. So the blow job got pretty playful from there. As I mentioned, she was very good at what she was doing, so I constantly had to get my dick out of her mouth in order not to cum. She thought this was funny and would just keep on sucking, bringing me to the very brink of orgasm, almost as a game to her.
I decided that I wanted to fuck this girl too before letting go. When going to the room, I had told Irina that she would have to do all the work, as I was tired from the previous session. So now I told her to ride me. She put on a condom and got in the CG position. However, that didn't last very long, as she got off me and on all fours, and demanded that I fuck her from behind. I complied, and all the time we going at it, she kept on calling me a "sex terrorist". Why I have no idea, as I certainly wasn't doing anything kinky or whatever. Maybe it was because she had to put more work into the session than she normally does, as I was holding out and aiming for 30 minutes sharp. I wanted to finish with Irina's great mouth, so she started sucking me again. As I was about to come, I pulled out of her mouth and Irina wanked me as I sprayed a hefty dose of cum. When we were finished, Irina gave me a high-five.
Irina was a fun girl to be with, albeit quite quirky. When thinking back, the way she seduced me in the rest area was very sensual (except for the pillow throwing) and it's still a turn on to think about. More FKK encounters should be like this, instead of this usual exchange the girls try: "Hi, what's your name? My name is xxx. Where are you from? Oh, that's interesting, want to go to the room with me? "
Would repeat, and definitely so if she hits me with the same seduction technique next time also (actually, that's a fantasy of mine to be sleeping in the rest area and then be awoken by a beautiful girl sucking my dick).
Overall, Palace was pretty quiet this visit, as it has been most times I've visited this winter and spring. Methinks it has hit sort of a slump business wise. There were lots of good looking girls hanging around without having too much work (e. G. Angelina). One night I stayed with my # 1 ATF almost till closing time. We left the room at around 3.45 and I was seemingly the only male soul left at the place. My # 1 ATF told me that this wasn't how it used to be in the goode ol' days, when the place would still be full at closing time and punters almost had to be chased out of the building. She complained about how the money isn't what it used to be, and to my horror told me that she was planning on quitting the business.
I never was around in the goode ol' times, so I don't know. What is the take of you Palace old-timers? Is Palace being hit by the financial crisis like any other FKK, is it being out competed by its rivals (which would be Oase and World I guess) or does it seem to be more or less business as usual to you?
Ozzy
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M P Lurker
06-06-09, 15:38
Went to Palace late afternoon on Thursday. There was a very good lineup with lots of good slim girls to choose from but not that busy:
Bee (Thai)
Mitsu (Japanese)
Amanda (I think) who does turkish dancing looked cute but haven't tried yet.
Daniella (Romania) had two ponytails and looked like a hot school girl.
Gabrielle (Moldova) nice tits but haven't tried yet.
Kimmi(Brazil)
Chantal (Guadalupe German)
Nicholetta (Italian/Romanian)
etc.
Many more good girls that I forgot names of.
I knocked back Mona(Romania) because although she is very cute I thought her bubbly approach to me seemed slightly fake, and her tits were fake too.
I knocked back Melini (spelling?) from Brazil supposedly, on basis of not so good bolt-ons too.
Knocked back Vanessa (German/Spanish) with stunning bottom but with very bad bolt-ons like coconut shells.
I avoided another Thai girl with bolt-ons and such a straight body, that she could have been a lady boy. Not my type.
Bianca gave me good service in distant past but we don't talk any more after she was really bitchy one day.
Took Thai Bee with very curvy body first. Cannot be over recommended. Her pussy muscles are very talented - tight and squeezing. Fun cooky girl.
Was waiting for Daniella but she disappeared for long time in ladies change room. So took Mitsu who also has a talented pussy and talented mouth and very nice firm but real tits to play with. Also recommended.
One funny incident.
A guy (maybe Afgan) had gone with Czech duo Angelina and friend (either Evelina or Gina - I'm not sure of who is who) and after coming out, his friend reckoned that he had got 5 pops. His money supply seemed short. Not sure what fortune he was up for. He tried the money machine with two girls waiting but it doesn't work for international.
I then think he went outside to an ATM maybe by taxi without getting changed, i.e. still clad in just a bathrobe.
Soon came back with the money.
I wanted to do some other girls like Chantal, or Daniella, but was getting a bit late.
M P Lurker
06-07-09, 11:41
Was waiting for Daniella but she disappeared for long time in ladies change room. So took Mitsu who also has a talented pussy and talented mouth and very nice firm but real tits to play with. Also recommended.Wanted to go with Mitsu again but although the club was not very busy at all (until it got late), she was quite nearly continuously booked. She seems to have risen to superstar status in a very short time since commencing at the Palace, despite not having a totally stunning look. However she is very freindly and very good in the room, better than a GF would ever be. A screamer too!
Anyway, since Mitsu was missing when I had finished a long pause, I decided to try Thai Poom/Pum(sounds like boom!) who is pretty petite (very small tits) but a cute bottom.
She humbly said that she wasn't very experienced.
However turns out the chemistry was going good. Nice kissing, nice DATY and 69. She gave a long slow and soft BBBJ that, although not deep throat, felt very close to it, as she could use her hand and mouth so together so well that doing 69, I couldn't tell the difference between her mouth and hand. The touch was that light and smooth!
Probably doesn't do uncovered CIM, so switched to doggy and normal fuck. Although she is quite tight, she likes a moderately firm pounding and is willing to orgasm on occasions. Boom boom with Poom was a great experience.
After I had come, the clock was at about 45 minutes. Poom offered a light massage to fill in the full hour, but when I suggested I like more sexy stuff, no problem. She was happy to blow me again all the way to full time. Her talent was good enough to get me hard and going again in short time, despite me normally not being a two shot guy.
Highly recommended just like nearly all of the asian girls at Palace. My only exception is the aggressive one with a ladyboy like body called possibly "Joy" (she changes name a lot I heard). She and I never talk to each other at all, and she doesn't makes friends with most of the other asian girls either.
M P Lurker
06-07-09, 13:56
I never was around in the goode ol' times, so I don't know. What is the take of you Palace old-timers? Is Palace being hit by the financial crisis like any other FKK, is it being out competed by its rivals (which would be Oase and World I guess) or does it seem to be more or less business as usual to you?
OzzyI think that there is little doubt that business is down.
It used to get so busy was like hell after midnight on Saturday, but doesn't seem to reach this level anymore, which is good.
I still don't like to stay after 1AM though.
The standard of the girls is pretty much similar to 4 years ago, although the very most stunning two or three girls in old times would not be found at all now.
I recognise quite a few girls that were at the Palace 3-4 years ago and still working there. Indira for example has a stunning body and O.K. face.
So I think a combination of the recession and competition from Oase, with a lot of girls and higher overall standard of looks than Palace (less uglies) but it also lacks absolute 10 out of 10 stunners as well. Palace has a higher percentage of sharks too.
Only the top girls are really busy, so others must be economically hurting, especially when there are sometimes significantly more girls than guys in the club.
I prefer it when I don't have to fight to get to girls and I think girls will become more motivated to try to get repeat customers in tough times.
Haven't had any bad sessions lately as have taken time to choose wisely and focussed on my regulars when unsure.
I like to ask the customers about how was their session when I fancy the same girl.
In old times the top girls could choose who they liked and wanted to fuck, but now some girls may be forced to take any old customer for money reasons. Some busy girls can still be a little bit choosy.
Some girls seem to be rather part time and don't really need a lot of money (may have good money already from another source). Occasionally meet girls doing FKK for fun rather than overly concerned about money, and they can muck around a lot and only go with a customer when they feel like it. I imagine its great for a girl to be able to do easy pick up, and get money for it, a good consolation if guy turned out to be lousy in bed. O.K. he didn't get her off. She can look for a better one. Please bear in mind I only refer to a low percentage of very part timer type girls here.
On the topic of guys getting knocked back by the girl, there is one Italian guy who comes regularly that is rejected by smaller girls often, purely due to the excessive girth of his cock. Won't go into a small mouth! :( Apparently is he is O.K. with this if the girl is polite about it. Poor guy but I am sure he finds looser girls that can take it with pleasure. However I am glad to be blessed with quite normal width as I tend to go for more petite girls.
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