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Surfer101
04-22-17, 21:42
I've been to Palace a dozen times but I never new there was a kino there. Am I blind or do you need a secret handshake to find it?

Mr Ho
04-23-17, 00:03
Actually Dilara has been working since 2002 or earlier. Same for Angelique and Nicoletta.

HB.It is incredible to know how some girls can stay in business for such a long time.

Let say she took 500 guys per year and that times 15 years, that is 7500 different guys fucked her. 7500 different penis. Most likely she took more guys than 500 per year, so more.

Human mind, but also Human pussies are strong part of the human body I guess.

Sirioja
04-23-17, 08:33
I've been to Palace a dozen times but I never new there was a kino there. Am I blind or do you need a secret handshake to find it?All Palace girls who come to you, even when you chose grey color, propose you: good BJ in kino? Messe in Frankfurt on this Saturday, but what a low casting, compare to Swiss Dietikon with only 16 girls on night before, meeting again my new Swiss friend, showing him my extreme runs, even Swiss can't believe such. I visited for Luci, Luci smiled, we went to room, but not anymore same Luci, not kissing anymore without extra, like she was said by other girls, so, before, we had 2 1 hour rooms for each of my visits, yesterday she got 50, money lost for me, I didn't even try to have sex with her, too disappointing, I took fast my diner, I drove to Velbert, after having driven from Zurich, for a 80 € 1 hour room with Emily with DFK, foreplay. No Emily, no Barbara, no Kate, seen at Palace. Many girls came to me in the afternoon, even with grey color, but in friendly way, but not pretty enough, too fat for most, to pay for, and I will never pay extra 50 for DFK or GFE, so they can stay looking for business, but not with me and no more with Luci. Most of Palace girls don t seem busy at all, only Asians and Turkish at night. Luci is now dark blond on top and blond below, with heavy make up, not so fresh look than for her first tour, listening other girls with bad advises. 2 girls are ex World long time ago, and I didn't even look at them at World.

So Palace rule is: girls say to others DFK, DATY or GFE are extra 50 .

At Oase, manager say to new girls 50 is only for suck and fuck. Hessen is really improving to the bottom for girls services, far below NRW now. Only Sharks where I never been upsell by Mandy or Gloria, but where are classy women at 200 GND fuck factory.

Amazing Swiss Friday, but bad Saturday at Palace, even not able to catch channel to play 2 Borussia match, and my little Borussia, not well balanced team on this year, again defeated. Only foods and drinks worth at Palace, but not for not pretty and upselling services girls. Luci was an exception, not anymore, but I wish her the best. My best will be far from Palace or Great Palace where she also worked. Many GFE girls are waiting for business, for only 50/30 mn.

Hessen Bub
04-23-17, 08:47
I've been to Palace a dozen times but I never new there was a kino there. Am I blind or do you need a secret handshake to find it?Blind. And as it seems not able to write a trip report also. It's on the left when you enter the main room, next to room #1.

HB.

The Cane
04-23-17, 09:23
It is incredible to know how some girls can stay in business for such a long time.Gina told me she has been working at Palace for 10 years now. She's only plied the trade at Palace and nowhere else says she. I thought that would make her the Queen of the Palace, but maybe not if there are a couple who have been in this longer than her. She cannot work there forever. Wonder what she will do next? Maybe become and escort with some brushed up photos? Marry some sucker? Who knows!

Mr Ho
04-23-17, 09:54
I've been to Palace a dozen times but I never new there was a kino there. Am I blind or do you need a secret handshake to find it?Comparison to other FKK, it is bit hidden if you don't seek around.

Member #4585
04-23-17, 10:31
Let say she took 500 guys per year and that times 15 years, that is 7500 different guys fucked her. 7500 different penis. Most likely she took more guys than 500 per year, so more.500 guys a year implies over say a 200 day working year implies just 2 and half guys a day on average. So she make say minimum 125 euro per day at 50 euro per session to cover her over 100 euro entrance fee?

I think you need to increase your numbers or agree that each girl must be asking for 100 or more per session. This implies the holy grail of wedding night sex for 50 euro maths does not work based on 500 guys a year.

Member #4585
04-23-17, 10:32
I've been to Palace a dozen times but I never new there was a kino there. Am I blind or do you need a secret handshake to find it?It seems you need to ask one of the girls to give your cock a secret handshake to take you to the Kino.

TrueNature
04-23-17, 12:30
Interesting report! Palace used to be my main club for many years and I've always had excellent sessions there; not been for about a year and I haven't been to Globe (yet) but having read about how beautiful the girls are there how, in your opinion, do the girls on average compare with those at Globe?Sommy dear Friend,

Like most of you I love beauty and I tried many many FKK looking for the best lu, so I was in Frankfurt doing my usual Oase, Sharks, Palace tour and drove to Zurich (I almost wanted stop to Stuttgart on was to try paradise if anyone has reviews) I arrive in globe nothing special facilities are below palace or sharks to my mind and I was looking to the super hot ones like the blonde club of Palace or Nastia sharks etc didn't really find gem and that was on a good day line up.

The FKK where I found great natural beauty Goldentime Vienna had some very cute ones, Goldentime Bruggen has good line up too, sharks in the quantity you will find quality and palace has very hot girls (4-5) to my mind like Chiara german or pretty face jenny with amazing natural tuts, I like Palace as the facility is classier than basic FKK. I would say for a punter traveler like me: always sharks palace and Goldentime. I went to world waste of time and km and Oase is hit or miss but mostly a miss. I like both kind of women very playmate with fake boobs or very natural angel so I can speak for both. I went to Berlin Artemis its OK if you in Berlin but doesn't worth the km so to me the Essen area I focus sharks and palace and on Dusseldorf Goldentime, I never been to living room or Acapulco or ocean but Magnum and Villa Vertigo were horrible line up and clientele.

Hope this help as I know what it is to drive only to find talents and I wish I didn't do 800 km for globe. (but again if I m in Zurich I will go there as nothing else otherwise).

Mr Ho
04-23-17, 12:38
500 guys a year implies over say a 200 day working year implies just 2 and half guys a day on average. So she make say minimum 125 euro per day at 50 euro per session to cover her over 100 euro entrance fee?

I think you need to increase your numbers or agree that each girl must be asking for 100 or more per session. This implies the holy grail of wedding night sex for 50 euro maths does not work based on 500 guys a year.It is incredible how these pussies does not get dried up totally even with gel after so many penis.

Sebastiane
04-23-17, 13:51
? he he this post from HB is from 2008! Why you shock me about Ainohas' tits. I was thinking you talk about ex Mainhattan Ainoa, nick at Palace Julie.Yes you are right I meant the ex-Mainhattan Ainoa.

Pistons
04-23-17, 14:33
It is incredible to know how some girls can stay in business for such a long time.

Let say she took 500 guys per year and that times 15 years, that is 7500 different guys fucked her. 7500 different penis. Most likely she took more guys than 500 per year, so more.

Human mind, but also Human pussies are strong part of the human body I guess.But you also said 'different guys'. That rules out all the repeats she'd do. I don't know what ratio of repeats she'd have. But say 2 x. 15 000 fucks? I guess you need a working lube for that. Without any bad chemicals, LOL.

ExpatLover
04-23-17, 17:21
500 guys a year implies over say a 200 day working year implies just 2 and half guys a day on average. So she make say minimum 125 euro per day at 50 euro per session to cover her over 100 euro entrance fee?

I think you need to increase your numbers or agree that each girl must be asking for 100 or more per session. This implies the holy grail of wedding night sex for 50 euro maths does not work based on 500 guys a year.Right it is more 200 working days with 5 to 10 guys per day in total 1000 to 2000 per year.

Mr Ho
04-24-17, 07:37
But you also said 'different guys'. That rules out all the repeats she'd do. I don't know what ratio of repeats she'd have. But say 2 x. 15 000 fucks? I guess you need a working lube for that. Without any bad chemicals, LOL.Ah OK, I don't pay too much attentions on spelling, grammar and even contents of the posts, I just write it, so if it is different guys, numbers may decrease by let say 30%.

Well, still, amounts of penis they have in their lives are so outstandingly many that will amaze me what female body and mind are capable of.

We mongers on other hand, fucked so many nice girls that I do not even look at beautiful girls on street anymore LOL.

FunExplorer
04-24-17, 07:43
I've been to Palace a dozen times but I never new there was a kino there. Am I blind or do you need a secret handshake to find it?I wonder how you missed it in the first place! You can see girls often going and coming there to find prospective clients.

BackpackBrian
04-30-17, 21:38
I can't say this has happened a lot, maybe 5-6 times at Palace out of 100+ and this happens at other FKK's too but I'll focus on Palace because this is the Palace thread.

But sometimes I'll get into the room, the girl lays down the towel and she says lay down.

At this point I don't always want to lay down and have her service me right away, I want to touch her and have a little foreplay. Touching, petting, light kissing on her body. So I tell them but she insists that I lay down so she can start in with the blowjob and then gets annoyed with me that I want to touch her body and starts rolling her eyes at me.

Should I.

1. Walk out?

2. Tell her I want foreplay first and insist or threaten to not pay her?

3. Just lay down and accept her finishing me off as quickly as possible pay her and move on?

4. discuss what I want in great depth before we enter the room?

See I always thought touching and foreplay was part of the 50 Euro price for 30 min. If I get DFK and DATY that is always a bonus and many times, but not all times I usually get it.

In the past (in my 20's) if she's really hot I'll just accept it and get serviced and move on, but as I get older (37) I'm starting to want a little more from the girls in terms of GFE.

Slayer666
05-01-17, 05:00
I can't say this has happened a lot, maybe 5-6 times at Palace out of 100+ and this happens at other FKK's too but I'll focus on Palace because this is the Palace thread.

But sometimes I'll get into the room, the girl lays down the towel and she says lay down.

At this point I don't always want to lay down and have her service me right away, I want to touch her and have a little foreplay. Touching, petting, light kissing on her body. So I tell them but she insists that I lay down so she can start in with the blowjob and then gets annoyed with me that I want to touch her body and starts rolling her eyes at me.

Should I..In my experience if you want better service it's best to pay 100 E.

Mr Ho
05-01-17, 07:03
I can't say this has happened a lot, maybe 5-6 times at Palace out of 100+ and this happens at other FKK's too but I'll focus on Palace because this is the Palace thread.

But sometimes I'll get into the room, the girl lays down the towel and she says lay down.

At this point I don't always want to lay down and have her service me right away, I want to touch her and have a little foreplay. Touching, petting, light kissing on her body. So I tell them but she insists that I lay down so she can start in with the blowjob and then gets annoyed with me that I want to touch her body and starts rolling her eyes at me.

Should I.

1. Walk out?

2. Tell her I want foreplay first and insist or threaten to not pay her?

3. Just lay down and accept her finishing me off as quickly as possible pay her and move on?

4. discuss what I want in great depth before we enter the room?

See I always thought touching and foreplay was part of the 50 Euro price for 30 min. If I get DFK and DATY that is always a bonus and many times, but not all times I usually get it.

In the past (in my 20's) if she's really hot I'll just accept it and get serviced and move on, but as I get older (37) I'm starting to want a little more from the girls in terms of GFE.Well Palace is not the club you should go for good service and normal pricing structure, it is more of up sell club.

For good service and set rate, it is better to hit Living room in NRW.

Sirioja
05-01-17, 08:39
I can't say this has happened a lot, maybe 5-6 times at Palace out of 100+ and this happens at other FKK's too but I'll focus on Palace because this is the Palace thread.

But sometimes I'll get into the room, the girl lays down the towel and she says lay down.

At this point I don't always want to lay down and have her service me right away, I want to touch her and have a little foreplay..Not sure Palace is best place for GFE, even Lucy. De now selling DFK.

For GFE, go to Mandy. De at Sharks, or Violetta. Ro or Alexa. Ro at Bab Elsdorf, or other places, like Switzerland where I didn't meet the faintest girl who didn't fluently DFK without even asking, and without extra of course, some don't even ask for extra for CIM because they are too skillful for BBBJ, or for anal games. Not sure, Switzerland is really more expensive than Palace.

Anyway, good foods and friendly staff at Palace.

Palace is for tourists and turkish at night, Sharks is on same way, many Asians at Oase, all this don't help for high GFE level for lovers demanding level.

Hessen Bub
05-01-17, 09:53
Try the options in consecutive order.

HB.

UltraHappy
05-01-17, 12:08
I can't say this has happened a lot, maybe 5-6 times at Palace out of 100+ and this happens at other FKK's too but I'll focus on Palace because this is the Palace thread.

But sometimes I'll get into the room, the girl lays down the towel and she says lay down.

At this point I don't always want to lay down and have her service me right away, I want to touch her and have a little foreplay. Touching, petting, light kissing on her body. So I tell them but she insists that I lay down so she can start in with the blowjob and then gets annoyed with me that I want to touch her body and starts rolling her eyes at me.
Happened to me at Mainhattan recently that a girl didn't want to lay down next to me at the start of the room (just to chat or whatever), insisting that was not part of the basic service, wanting to start with blow and finish me off as quickly as possible unless I agreed to pay more or spend more than half an hour.

I just walked out. She was upset about losing her 50 but for me, best way to handle this. Fortunately, this pretty much never happens to me so I rarely have to do this, but for me, just walking out sends the right message.

It's too bad everyone doesn't do exactly this -- that would cut down on this BS pretty quickly. Unfortunately, too many guys just give in these BS antics, thus encouraging this kind of behavior.

Exodus8
05-01-17, 12:27
Happened to me at Mainhattan recently that a girl didn't want to lay down next to me at the start of the room (just to chat or whatever), insisting that was not part of the basic service, wanting to start with blow and finish me off as quickly as possible unless I agreed to pay more or spend more than half an hour.

I just walked out. She was upset about losing her 50 but for me, best way to handle this. Fortunately, this pretty much never happens to me so I rarely have to do this, but for me, just walking out sends the right message.

It's too bad everyone doesn't do exactly this -- that would cut down on this BS pretty quickly. Unfortunately, too many guys just give in these BS antics, thus encouraging this kind of behavior.Then she will say "please come back darling I give you good service. Lets talk" LOL.

Citizen Kane
05-01-17, 12:43
I can't say this has happened a lot, maybe 5-6 times at Palace out of 100+ and this happens at other FKK's too but I'll focus on Palace because this is the Palace thread.

But sometimes I'll get into the room, the girl lays down the towel and she says lay down.

At this point I don't always want to lay down and have her service me right away, I want to touch her and have a little foreplay. Touching, petting, light kissing on her body. So I tell them but she insists that I lay down so she can start in with the blowjob and then gets annoyed with me that I want to touch her body and starts rolling her eyes at me.

Should I.

1. Walk out?

2. Tell her I want foreplay first and insist or threaten to not pay her?

3. Just lay down and accept her finishing me off as quickly as possible pay her and move on?

4. discuss what I want in great depth before we enter the room?

See I always thought touching and foreplay was part of the 50 Euro price for 30 min. If I get DFK and DATY that is always a bonus and many times, but not all times I usually get it.

In the past (in my 20's) if she's really hot I'll just accept it and get serviced and move on, but as I get older (37) I'm starting to want a little more from the girls in terms of GFE.Ignore her and do what you want. If she protests, walk out. Once the BJ starts she has you trapped so that's why she's pushing for it.

Syzygies
05-01-17, 14:36
Happened to me at Mainhattan recently that a girl didn't want to lay down next to me at the start of the room (just to chat or whatever), insisting that was not part of the basic service, wanting to start with blow and finish me off as quickly as possible unless I agreed to pay more or spend more than half an hour.

I just walked out. She was upset about losing her 50 but for me, best way to handle this. Fortunately, this pretty much never happens to me so I rarely have to do this, but for me, just walking out sends the right message.

It's too bad everyone doesn't do exactly this -- that would cut down on this BS pretty quickly. Unfortunately, too many guys just give in these BS antics, thus encouraging this kind of behavior.Correct action. I can't stand girls who want to do their set program. I tell her to lie down. I am paying to enjoy her body.

Pistons
05-01-17, 15:49
Then she will say "please come back darling I give you good service. Lets talk" LOL.Followed by "ok, we don't have anything interesting to talk about. Lets start?

McAdonis
05-01-17, 20:44
4. discuss what I want in great depth before we enter the room?

I would discuss in great depth.

But that ruins the mood for most guys. You could just say something more casual I suppose like "My last visit, the WG didn't want to have foreplay. " Or "We agreed on DFK beforehand and then inside the room, she only DFK for 30 seconds". And see if that elicits a negative response. Sort of less direct than asking. Maybe that would open a dialog.

Then again its Palace. Better bring more money. Or white powder.

XXL
05-01-17, 21:26
Pretty dead. I saw no more than 10 different girls and even thought of calling it a day and finish the Viagra in the RLD.

Fortunately, there were few active customers so 6 or 7 girls were available at any one time. I sessioned 4 of them, 3 of whom insisted 69 was to be "looking only, no licking". One of them even spelled out that "licking was not included in the standard price". The girl who was OK with licking, a BBW "Russian" blonde with a black corset, was reluctant to perform BBBJ. I hadn't faced such restrictions at Manhattan the day before. I sometimes tip a girl 10 Euro but I didn't tip any girl this time.

Hessen Bub
05-01-17, 21:51
Before 6 pm Palace can be pretty dead. Especially if there's no exhibition at the Messe.

HB.

PussyLiccker
05-02-17, 14:19
I can't say this has happened a lot, maybe 5-6 times at Palace out of 100+ and this happens at other FKK's too but I'll focus on Palace because this is the Palace thread.

But sometimes I'll get into the room, the girl lays down the towel and she says lay down.

At this point I don't always want to lay down and have her service me right away, I want to touch her and have a little foreplay. Touching, petting, light kissing on her body. So I tell them but she insists that I lay down so she can start in with the blowjob and then gets annoyed with me that I want to touch her body and starts rolling her eyes at me.

Should I.

1. Walk out?

2. Tell her I want foreplay first and insist or threaten to not pay her?

3. Just lay down and accept her finishing me off as quickly as possible pay her and move on?

4. discuss what I want in great depth before we enter the room?

See I always thought touching and foreplay was part of the 50 Euro price for 30 min. If I get DFK and DATY that is always a bonus and many times, but not all times I usually get it.

In the past (in my 20's) if she's really hot I'll just accept it and get serviced and move on, but as I get older (37) I'm starting to want a little more from the girls in terms of GFE.I know there are different theories to the possible outcomes.

My take, think about the chances of such interactions occur in the club. Palace in this instance.

Also, the guys would want to know what the type of services offerings by a girl, instead of buying a 50 without any preknowledge. Again, think about what club you are at.

The chances are there that the girl will ask about services and layout pricing in the room at Palace.

Be specific when you talk to her so that when you get in there there is no ambiguity in what was said, and get into the room she gets specific with the pricing. Move on if she no agreement in the specifics.

Either that or you can not mention what is that you like at all, and risk being through your 50's, your call.

For me, the real test is how much of an occurrance that when you get in the room, the girls layout her pricing.

DashuTerry
05-02-17, 15:22
I know there are different theories to the possible outcomes.

My take, think about the chances of such interactions occur in the club. Palace in this instance.

Also, the guys would want to know what the type of services offerings by a girl, instead of buying a 50 without any preknowledge. Again, think about what club you are at.

The chances are there that the girl will ask about services and layout pricing in the room at Palace.

Be specific when you talk to her so that when you get in there there is no ambiguity in what was said, and get into the room she gets specific with the pricing. Move on if she no agreement in the specifics.

Either that or you can not mention what is that you like at all, and risk being through your 50's, your call.

For me, the real test is how much of an occurrance that when you get in the room, the girls layout her pricing.You guys always talk about the services and pricing after going inside the room with girls instead of before that?

PussyLiccker
05-03-17, 00:04
I'm just sayin get it cleared before taking her if you can. Don't wait until you are in the room.

But, foreplay that kinda stuff is weird to bring up. For that kind of stuff, you should interact with the girl and see how she responds.

Foreplay should ideally be outside to get you going.

Palace is really not the club for GFE. The irony in that.

Mr Ho
05-03-17, 02:24
I know there are different theories to the possible outcomes.

My take, think about the chances of such interactions occur in the club. Palace in this instance.

Also, the guys would want to know what the type of services offerings by a girl, instead of buying a 50 without any preknowledge. Again, think about what club you are at.

The chances are there that the girl will ask about services and layout pricing in the room at Palace.

Be specific when you talk to her so that when you get in there there is no ambiguity in what was said, and get into the room she gets specific with the pricing. Move on if she no agreement in the specifics.

Either that or you can not mention what is that you like at all, and risk being through your 50's, your call.

For me, the real test is how much of an occurrance that when you get in the room, the girls layout her pricing.FKK Palace is not the club for constant good service or fair pricing, so being specific is the only way one can possibly do to get good service at palace.

Though in most cased at Palace, you have to pay more than set rate to do so. Oase seems similar lately.

Sharks tend to be better for service, but I feel Hessen area is not service or set rate FKK destination.

Nrw is much better for fair rate and good service and good girls mentality to monger as it is fair and I do not have to negotiate hard at nrw.

BackpackBrian
05-03-17, 06:39
I'm just sayin get it cleared before taking her if you can. Don't wait until you are in the room.

But, foreplay that kinda stuff is weird to bring up. For that kind of stuff, you should interact with the girl and see how she responds.

Foreplay should ideally be outside to get you going.

Palace is really not the club for GFE. The irony in that.I think to some extent foreplay outside is OK, but what about things like touching and rubbing her pussy?

This is an example of her not allowing me to do it in the room. I go straight for it when she lays down the towel and she backs away as if I'm not allowed to do it. That's when she says "lay down, lay down". I just want to touch her for a few minutes, no more then 2-5 minutes then I'm hard and want my BBBJ. Now if she does something like this I know to walk the heck out of the room and not look back.

Hessen Bub
05-03-17, 11:04
You guys always talk about the services and pricing after going inside the room with girls instead of before that?I never talk about pricing with the girls. Some girls feel like they have to start and tell me about their pricing. Which often leads to cancelling the date.

HB.

Optimist
05-03-17, 12:11
I never talk about pricing with the girls. Some girls feel like they have to start and tell me about their pricing. Which often leads to cancelling the date.

HB.The best approach for me also. I don't think I've ever been with a girl who gave me a price menu. If it is a new girl I gently indicate I only do 50 on a first meeting, but that I usually repeat long sessions after: if I get a poor reaction then I terminate ithe discussion.

Mr Ho
05-03-17, 13:09
The best approach for me also. I don't think I've ever been with a girl who gave me a price menu. If it is a new girl I gently indicate I only do 50 on a first meeting, but that I usually repeat long sessions after: if I get a poor reaction then I terminate ithe discussion.Best approach in Palace is money honey LOL.

The Cane
05-03-17, 17:53
I never talk about pricing with the girls. Some girls feel like they have to start and tell me about their pricing. Which often leads to cancelling the date.

HB.When I go with a girl for the very first time, I always, always, always talk about price. I do it for two reasons. First, it's a way for me to judge her honesty as a person. I know what the price is supposed to be. So, if she starts saying stuff like it's 50 euro extra for a massage and 50 euro extra for DFK and all that bullshit (which is what one tute at Sharks did), then it's see you later baby! She and her friend were obviously new to the business thinking it was OK to squeeze mongers for every cent. Well, she was talking to the wrong one, and easily won't last in this business! Wish I could remember her name. The other reason why I bring up price when going with a girl the first time is to avoid any misunderstandings in the room. After I've been with her once and all went OK and she knows what I want, then it's easier for me to drop price talk, or keep it very short. This is not all fail proof, but it's what works for me and allows me to be comfortable and confident that I will get what I want at the price that I want to pay.

Mr Ho
05-04-17, 01:56
I think to some extent foreplay outside is OK, but what about things like touching and rubbing her pussy?

This is an example of her not allowing me to do it in the room. I go straight for it when she lays down the towel and she backs away as if I'm not allowed to do it. That's when she says "lay down, lay down". I just want to touch her for a few minutes, no more then 2-5 minutes then I'm hard and want my BBBJ. Now if she does something like this I know to walk the heck out of the room and not look back.Try touching the pussy of the german table before the room LOL It is 50 euro per touch LOL.

ExpatLover
05-04-17, 09:22
When I go with a girl for the very first time, I always, always, always talk about price. I do it for two reasons. First, it's a way for me to judge her honesty as a person. I know what the price is supposed to be. So, if she starts saying stuff like it's 50 euro extra for a massage and 50 euro extra for DFK and all that bullshit (which is what one tute at Sharks did), then it's see you later baby! She and her friend were obviously new to the business thinking it was OK to squeeze mongers for every cent. Well, she was talking to the wrong one, and easily won't last in this business! Wish I could remember her name. The other reason why I bring up price when going with a girl the first time is to avoid any misunderstandings in the room. After I've been with her once and all went OK and she knows what I want, then it's easier for me to drop price talk, or keep it very short. This is not all fail proof, but it's what works for me and allows me to be comfortable and confident that I will get what I want at the price that I want to pay.Sorry I don't understand what is misunderstanding, 50 euros includes short BJ and sex in 2/3 position maximum, that is far enough for me to see if the chemistry with the girl is fine and so I will extend no need for me to discuss any price before the room.

PussyLiccker
05-04-17, 14:39
For MrHo, I will have to bring up the Brazilian girl encounter from long ago (I don't believe she works there any more).

A Brazilian tute long ago kept approaching me several times, and at one point she put my fingers on her vag. I said,"let's go!" That sex was remarkable. With samba music, her dancing with her ass shaking against the wall, and have me grind me against her behind.

Amazing gal. Now, that was sex.

Mr Ho
05-04-17, 21:28
For MrHo, I will have to bring up the Brazilian girl encounter from long ago (I don't believe she works there any more).

A Brazilian tute long ago kept approaching me several times, and at one point she put my fingers on her vag. I said,"let's go!" That sex was remarkable. With samba music, her dancing with her ass shaking against the wall, and have me grind me against her behind.

Amazing gal. Now, that was sex.That sound more like for Cane LOL he is the specialist for Brazilian girls analization LOL.

I encounter one Brazilian girl who is born in Germany and she was half black and half white, now she was a beauty.

How are the line up nowadays at palace? Any new girls or samo?

Turgid
05-06-17, 14:47
For MrHo, I will have to bring up the Brazilian girl encounter from long ago (I don't believe she works there any more).

A Brazilian tute long ago kept approaching me several times, and at one point she put my fingers on her vag. I said,"let's go!" That sex was remarkable. With samba music, her dancing with her ass shaking against the wall, and have me grind me against her behind.

Amazing gal. Now, that was sex.Whenever you encounter a Brazilian provider ask no questions just go with her, you will not be disappointed. That also goes for providers from other countries who like things Brazilian. In my recent trip to Hong Kong I met a Russian in a walk-up who had been to Brazil and liked samba. Sex with her was phenomenal.

Surfer101
05-08-17, 22:20
Blind. And as it seems not able to write a trip report also. It's on the left when you enter the main room, next to room #1.

HB.I found out about Palace 5 years ago. Found the forum a few months ago.

I had every intention of writing detailed reports the last 2 day trip I spent at Palace but in all honesty it was a marathon of tits, ass and alcohol. I was making mental notes, names, sizes, performance etc. By the time I went through a bottle of alcohol and was leaving the club at 3 am each night I couldn't remember any of their names for shit. Since there's so many and they're just about all eastern block it's impossible to say. "the one from Ukraine or Romania."

I'll be there in a few weeks and will make sure I write them down this time.

Surfer101
05-08-17, 22:22
Comparison to other FKK, it is bit hidden if you don't seek around.Agreed. The one in Stuttgart is pretty obvious with girls walking in and out. I just never noticed. I thought it was just another area for the girls.

Surfer101
05-08-17, 22:23
It seems you need to ask one of the girls to give your cock a secret handshake to take you to the Kino.I'll be there in a few weeks and I will be doing just this!

Sirioja
05-09-17, 03:51
Whenever you encounter a Brazilian provider ask no questions just go with her, you will not be disappointed. That also goes for providers from other countries who like things Brazilian. In my recent trip to Hong Kong I met a Russian in a walk-up who had been to Brazil and liked samba. Sex with her was phenomenal.' m usually attracted by Russian women, but not at all by Brazilians or Colombians look and behavior. I prefer some Argentinians looking like Italian women.

Mr Ho
05-09-17, 04:04
Agreed. The one in Stuttgart is pretty obvious with girls walking in and out. I just never noticed. I thought it was just another area for the girls.In most FKK, cinema is the place where I hide when I want to relax and sleep. Though some girls even bother to come and wake you up LOL.

ExpatLover
05-09-17, 05:08
I found out about Palace 5 years ago. Found the forum a few months ago.

I had every intention of writing detailed reports the last 2 day trip I spent at Palace but in all honesty it was a marathon of tits, ass and alcohol. I was making mental notes, names, sizes, performance etc. By the time I went through a bottle of alcohol and was leaving the club at 3 am each night I couldn't remember any of their names for shit. Since there's so many and they're just about all eastern block it's impossible to say. "the one from Ukraine or Romania."

I'll be there in a few weeks and will make sure I write them down this time.In the past many girls from Palace were on this forum, I don't know if it is still the case today (Palace was my favorite FKK 2 or 3 years back), if you plan to visit frequently try to be careful not to be recognized knowing that the club is small and the girls are speaking a lot together.

Optimist
05-09-17, 16:30
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?678-Frankfurt&p=2033251&viewfull=1#post2033251.

IndianXFalcon does a report which shows that even in Palace there are good service girls (he found at least one).

VaeVictis
05-11-17, 17:33
This is the second time I was visiting Frankfurt (for more than 2-3 days) and this time, due to hotel rates being through the roof due to messe, I am staying at max 10 minutes from Palace. Due to Palace's reputation I was never inclined to visit it (and actually planned a visit to Mainhatten instead) but seeing how I walked by Palace on my way to work, I said. What the hell, let's try it.

Logistics (skip if familiar with area):

There is a plenty of public transport opportunities in the area. Also I saw that right beside the Palace, there is a hotel named Fleming's Conference Hotel (not the cheapest option in area, but if you like to stay close, you literally are going to be 100 meters away from your bed and action at Palace). Ibis hotel can be found 5 minutes walk away to the south east and there is a tiny hotel to the north, 10 minute walk (same place where closest ATM machine is). Based on my experience with hotel chains and prices seen on the internet Ibis should be the best option.

Of course, since there are several FKKs in Frankfurt area and you have opportunity and desire to visit them all, renting a car the way to go and local hotels are irrelevant.

Frankfurter Sparkasse. Geldautomat is the closest ATM machine approximately 700-800 meters away to the north. You got one in Palace too but it carries a hefty extra charge based on what I have been told so only use that one in emergency.

Entrance set you back 75 euro and you get back 25 euro if you leave within two hours of entering the place. Bathrobe is free. You can get two different wristbands that tell girls whether you want to be approached or not.

Facilities:

Palace looks nice and clean. The staff is the friendliest I have met in a FKK club, but I may have just been lucky the two times I had been there. I can only compare to Mainhatten due to never having visited any other clubs in the area so I may not have the complete picture.

Food was OK, nothing special. I had both better and worse in other clubs.

Setting:

I was there in last two days and due to Messe event going on, I dropped staying late. However, according to the girls, Messe did not generate much traffic to the place. I visited both days at 14:30 and stayed to 18 or 19. What surprised me was the low number of customers even taken in consideration that I was too early for full lineup in a FKK. Yesterday there were two or three men and 8 or 9 girls when I arrived, and the situation was not any better when I left the place. I am tempted to think bad reputation Palace had and perhaps still has, drives even tourist to other areas. But again, maybe this was just a fluke. I know that Artemis, which granted has a monopoly in Berlin, is much more packed in the timeframe I was visiting the place.

And perhaps due to the all above mentioned reasons, I did not find the lineup very interesting. There were couple of stunners which ruined their own chances with crappy sharkish behaviour. That being said, since this is afterall Palace, based on the stories I have read here and was told by other punters I was expecting a much worse behaviour. Being used to Artemis rules, I find their upselling technique in Palace naive almost and compared to my two Mainhatten visits there was less of it.

Jasmin / Jasmine:

MILF, enhanced breasts, romanian. Failed the initial interview after obviously trying to gauge how much money she could get from me. If this had been my first FKK experience she would have fleeced me. Avoid.

Ina:

Thin body with small natural breasts. Nice personality. Took her for one hour spin and she delivered the goods. No upselling.

Juli:

Petite body, funny, recently restarted her tuti carrier. Claims she started working in Palace in January. Usually not my body type but I went with her for variation plus I liked the impression she left on me when we first started chatting. Decent performance in the room, again this was one hour session. No upselling or any other bullshit.

2-3 girls I cannot remember the names of. Very irritating but this is a weakness of mine. Names just disappear especially if I do sessions back to back. I get heavy headache after doing that which is hell to go through and I don't note the names then.

So while I did not have much experience in Palace, as you can all see, I was actually expecting much worse experience than I got during my time there.

Mr Ho
05-12-17, 12:02
I am tempted to think bad reputation Palace had and perhaps still has, drives even tourist to other areas. But again, maybe this was just a fluke. I know that Artemis, which granted has a monopoly in Berlin, is much more packed in the timeframe I was visiting the place.

And perhaps due to the all above mentioned reasons, I did not find the lineup very interesting. There were couple of stunners which ruined their own chances with crappy sharkish behaviour FKK Palace. Yeah I do not mind the longer session for better service, but once they overcharging the rate with too much up sell and often not even deliver the good service comparison to other FKK, it drive clients away.

Pistons
05-13-17, 21:04
Found a new top girl at Palace tonight. Name: Nicole. 23 yo black haired from Bulgaria. Little enhanced tits and lips, 1. 55 cm and has worked in 3 austrian clubs before. She is one of those shangri la trained masters from the mountain monastery. Its only her 3rd day... aside from her the lineup is lacking. Lucy and Kylie is here though, but very thin below those... But for me, Nicole beats them. At least above Kylie for me.

Craiova
05-13-17, 21:08
Found a new top girl at Palace tonight.How is Palace line up today? How many girls. I recommend you Julia the one with the coloured bird tattoo on shoulder.

Pistons
05-13-17, 21:10
How is Palace line up today? How many girls. I recommend you Julia the one with the coloured bird tattoo on shoulder.Will scout for her, but for my taste optically it is very weak below the 3 girls I mentionned. Nicole is nr1 in looks here right now. And she is a trained master in the arts...

Craiova
05-13-17, 21:20
Julia has now long straight blonde hair (used to be short at her Oase times) and I've heard wear glasses now at Palace, top class performer.

Pistons
05-13-17, 23:58
Lucy and Kylie is here though,Wrong, you shouldn't claim girls to be there after just one glimpse that turned out to not be Lucy, but Ina. There had to be something wrong. So yeh, lu is quite poor for me. Jeanie is here. Perhaps the prettiest of the germans I'd say.

Haven't spotted a girl with a bird tatoo on shoulder (s).

Mr Ho
05-14-17, 06:34
Wrong, you shouldn't claim girls to be there after just one glimpse that turned out to not be Lucy, but Ina. There had to be something wrong. So yeh, lu is quite poor for me. Jeanie is here. Perhaps the prettiest of the germans I'd say.

Haven't spotted a girl with a bird tatoo on shoulder (s).I must say Palace has annual change of line up and add one or two stunners in to that German table. This is very good thing as some other club has all same line up in stunners part of LU and add a lot to girls that ain't stunners. Where as palace keep on adding to one or two stunner to stunner part of lineup once or twice per year.

Steppenwolf11
05-14-17, 08:33
Found a new top girl at Palace tonight. Name: Nicole. 23 yo black haired from Bulgaria. Little enhanced tits and lips, 1. 55 cm and has worked in 3 austrian clubs before. She is one of those shangri la trained masters from the mountain monastery. Its only her 3rd day... aside from her the lineup is lacking. Lucy and Kylie is here though, but very thin below those... But for me, Nicole beats them. At least above Kylie for me.I met a 1,55 small Nicole in Austria last year. Beautiful and very fit. But she was from Romania not Bulgaria. Can it be the same girl?

Pistons
05-14-17, 09:17
I met a 1,55 small Nicole in Austria last year. Beautiful and very fit. But she was from Romania not Bulgaria. Can it be the same girl?Probably not. They change names every time. We should try that too.

ExpatLover
05-14-17, 11:31
This is the second time I was visiting Frankfurt (for more than 2-3 days) and this time, due to hotel rates being through the roof due to messe, I am staying at max 10 minutes from Palace. Due to Palace's reputation I was never inclined to visit it (and actually planned a visit to Mainhatten instead) but seeing how I walked by Palace on my way to work, I said. What the hell, let's try it.

Logistics (skip if familiar with area):

There is a plenty of public transport opportunities in the area. Also I saw that right beside the Palace, there is a hotel named Fleming's Conference Hotel (not the cheapest option in area, but if you like to stay close, you literally are going to be 100 meters away from your bed and action at Palace). Ibis hotel can be found 5 minutes walk away to the south east and there is a tiny hotel to the north, 10 minute walk (same place where closest ATM machine is). Based on my experience with hotel chains and prices seen on the internet Ibis should be the best option.

Of course, since there are several FKKs in Frankfurt area and you have opportunity and desire to visit them all, renting a car the way to go and local hotels are irrelevant.Palace was my favorite club for many years due to very poor staff behavior, never visited again since 2013, and when I read the reports quite happy about my decision, knowing that it is also a expensive club (75 euros entry) with no outside space and poor LU, have so many far better clubs and cheaper.

Hessen Bub
05-14-17, 12:04
I must say Palace has annual change of line up and add one or two stunners in to that German table. This is very good thing as some other club has all same line up in stunners part of LU and add a lot to girls that ain't stunners. Where as palace keep on adding to one or two stunner to stunner part of lineup once or twice per year.Can't second that. Palace has the most static line-up of the big Hessen clubs. Stunners (to my taste) are rare, girls are aging with the club.



Haven't spotted a girl with a bird tatoo on shoulder (s).Julia (Ex-Oase) was working this week. Blond and glasse, big tattoo on her right shoulder blade, small tattoo above her pussy. Kylie was working as well. Also Jennie, Marie, Sara and Saskia from the German group. Stella had a day off. Didn't see Lucy. There was a blonde named Nastia, claimed to be Russian and came from Mainhattan. Asked 100 EUR for a 30 min GFE session. Insisted that 100 EUR /60 min would only buy BJ and sex.

HB.

Mr Ho
05-14-17, 12:38
Can't second that. Palace has the most static line-up of the big Hessen clubs. Stunners (to my taste) are rare, girls are aging with the club.

Julia (Ex-Oase) was working this week. Blond and glasse, big tattoo on her right shoulder blade, small tattoo above her pussy. Kylie was working as well. Also Jennie, Marie, Sara and Saskia from the German group. Stella had a day off. Didn't see Lucy. There was a blonde named Nastia, claimed to be Russian and came from Mainhattan. Asked 100 EUR for a 30 min GFE session. Insisted that 100 EUR /60 min would only buy BJ and sex.

HB.So did you buy into that upsell or you walked away?

It is good to hear there actually are still German in German FKK with German price LOL.

ExpatLover
05-14-17, 15:33
Can't second that. Palace has the most static line-up of the big Hessen clubs. Stunners (to my taste) are rare, girls are aging with the club.

Julia (Ex-Oase) was working this week. Blond and glasse, big tattoo on her right shoulder blade, small tattoo above her pussy. Kylie was working as well. Also Jennie, Marie, Sara and Saskia from the German group. Stella had a day off. Didn't see Lucy. There was a blonde named Nastia, claimed to be Russian and came from Mainhattan. Asked 100 EUR for a 30 min GFE session. Insisted that 100 EUR /60 min would only buy BJ and sex.

HB.Hi Hessen Bub, yes you will have to pay more if you want to get better service, that is the life, I know that you want to get everything for 50 euros but that is just your own personal challenge.

TrueNature
05-15-17, 01:23
Can't second that. Palace has the most static line-up of the big Hessen clubs. Stunners (to my taste) are rare, girls are aging with the club.

Julia (Ex-Oase) was working this week. Blond and glasse, big tattoo on her right shoulder blade, small tattoo above her pussy. Kylie was working as well. Also Jennie, Marie, Sara and Saskia from the German group. Stella had a day off. Didn't see Lucy. There was a blonde named Nastia, claimed to be Russian and came from Mainhattan. Asked 100 EUR for a 30 min GFE session. Insisted that 100 EUR /60 min would only buy BJ and sex.

HB.Anyone went zimmer with Kylie? My friend did she is very pretty but very expensive he told me. Anyone experience? I always see that german blonde table hare they more sharky?

Please let me know.

BadinSweet
05-15-17, 22:50
I have not been to Palace for quite sometime. Last visit was a year ago and the past 3 years I have only visited twice.

Palace used to be my favorite place when I first started out FKK-ing. So, I am wondering if you know if some of these girls are still there or have been there recently.

Emanuele / Manuela - Parents are Yugoslavs but she lives in Milan, one of my all time favorite girl in FKK, tall, be, dark brunette.

Martha - I know she has not been there for a while, that's too bad.

Ida - From Malaga, fake see.

Anabella - ROM, short, blonde, she was still there last year.

Thank you any inputs.

Craiova
05-15-17, 23:47
Martha - I know she has not been there for a while, that's too bad.
Yep Martha was one of the most beautiful South American girl I've ever seen at a German FKK club with great behaviour and service.

Pistons
05-16-17, 03:05
Julia (Ex-Oase) was working this week. Blond and glasse, big tattoo on her right shoulder blade, small tattoo above her pussy. Kylie was working as well. Also Jennie, Marie, Sara and Saskia from the German group. Stella had a day off. Didn't see Lucy. There was a blonde named Nastia, claimed to be Russian and came from Mainhattan. Asked 100 EUR for a 30 min GFE session. Insisted that 100 EUR /60 min would only buy BJ and sex.

HB.Yes, but I looked for a bird tatoo on shoulder. Closest I found was a blondie with a butterfly tatoo. Then again, I did spot a girl with japanese fish tatoo on shoulder just before I left. And little bird on the roof tells me that is Julia.

Mr Ho
05-16-17, 07:16
Yep Martha was one of the most beautiful South American girl I've ever seen at a German FKK club with great behaviour and service.She changed her FKK name toward end of her FKK career no? And she also worked in escort right?

Hessen Bub
05-16-17, 22:55
So did you buy into that upsell or you walked away?

Laughed at her and walked away.

HB.

Mr Ho
05-16-17, 23:05
Laughed at her and walked away.

HB.Yeah I do not mind longer sessions in exchange for service, but these up selling with crazy alternate price changes will drive clients away to other clubs.

Michelangelo
05-21-17, 14:15
Saturday between 16.00 and 21.00 hours, Palace was dead. About 15 girls mostly Russian, Romanian and Moldavian and a couple of German, as well as an exotic bird from the Bahamas. Ratio girls / customers about 1/1 but very average girls, not one really above the lot. Girls crying for business and happy to go for 50 EUR, no attempt to up-sell. Overall rather disappointing and no intention to go back very soon.

ExpatLover
05-21-17, 15:26
Saturday between 16.00 and 21.00 hours, Palace was dead. About 15 girls mostly Russian, Romanian and Moldavian and a couple of German, as well as an exotic bird from the Bahamas. Ratio girls / customers about 1/1 but very average girls, not one really above the lot. Girls crying for business and happy to go for 50 EUR, no attempt to up-sell. Overall rather disappointing and no intention to go back very soon.Mostly this is a club for the big fair event, or for turkish guys after 22 PM. Was my favorite club from 2010 to 14, never return there since I was rudely manage by one staff, he simply forgot who is the customer, I don't care many other clubs are lucky to have me now has a very regular customer. (several time each week).

Surfer101
05-21-17, 19:19
Overall rather disappointing and no intention to go back very soon.Well hell. I'll be there the week of the 29th and Palace hasn't been getting good reviews on the line up. I sure as crap hope that changes.

Pistons
05-22-17, 00:23
Well hell. I'll be there the week of the 29th and Palace hasn't been getting good reviews on the line up. I sure as crap hope that changes.The top germans are there. Among the romanians it felt like most hotties were missing. Nicole (bul) is there that weekend tho...

Craiova
05-22-17, 01:50
The top germans are there. Among the romanians it felt like most hotties were missing..German hotties, maybe if you prefer MILFs older than 30 or 35 yo.

Pistons
05-22-17, 02:44
I believe Lucy is in her low 20's.

I don't think Kylie, Jeanie or the other hot germans are past 30 either, probably around 27-28 (perhaps some of the less hot ones are around 35)

FredZee
05-22-17, 03:06
Have any recent visitors seen Lulu around? I had read reports some time back she was still working at Palace. I had a great time with her several years ago in Artemis. Thinking I might give Palace a try if she is still around to to check Palace out as I have never been there. Sounds like it would not be the best choice given the recent reviews.

TrueNature
05-22-17, 04:01
I believe Lucy is in her low 20's.

I don't think Kylie, Jeanie or the other hot germans are past 30 either, probably around 27-28 (perhaps some of the less hot ones are around 35)Which one you prefer? Kylie or Jeanie? Both are gorgeous in my book but heard expensive girls. I had once the one with tan line small ass, very hot blonde (face ok not great) always with tan line. Which German offer decent pricing? Kylie & Jeany most pretty girl in maybe all Frankfurt.

ExpatLover
05-22-17, 06:11
Well hell. I'll be there the week of the 29th and Palace hasn't been getting good reviews on the line up. I sure as crap hope that changes.Why going to palace, shark is not far and also Manhattan is a good club far better than palace and cheaper with a nice garden, no garden at palace.

Delta Indigo
05-22-17, 12:13
I heard that Serbian works at Palace nowadays, has anyone seen her there recently?

Hessen Bub
05-22-17, 12:15
Rumors say she moved on to Artemis. Didn't see her on my last visits.

HB.

Pistons
05-22-17, 17:11
Which one you prefer?I don't know.

Delta Indigo
05-22-17, 17:42
Rumors say she moved on to Artemis. Didn't see her on my last visits.

HB.Thanks for letting me know I can scratch Palace off the list for now.

The Cane
05-22-17, 17:49
Which one you prefer? Kylie or Jeanie? Both are gorgeous in my book but heard expensive girls. Kylie & Jeanie most pretty girl in maybe all Frankfurt.Really? I don't know which is Jeanie, but I passed on Kylie. I really liked her face, but the body was lacking with tits starting to sag and body not so great in my books. People who like her such as Mr. Ho say Kylie is past her prime, and that her body is not as good as it used to be.

Hessen Bub
05-22-17, 18:50
Kylie has perfectly shaped fake boobs and a great trained firm body. You must mean somebody else. Jeanie = Jenny.

HB.

TrueNature
05-23-17, 02:42
Kylie has perfectly shaped fake boobs and a great trained firm body. You must mean somebody else. Jeanie = Jenny.

HB.I heard kylie is very expensive and upsell any info on that?

And yes Jenny look great love her face and natural tits, I tried Stella was disaster, Gina look like old pornstar not my type, one other blonde pretty. Kylie great body face ok just wondering if she is a shark thank you so much to answer.

The Cane
05-23-17, 07:11
Kylie has perfectly shaped fake boobs and a great trained firm body. You must mean somebody else. Jeanie = Jenny.

HB.You know what HB? You're absolutely right! I was thinking of Stella, who also sits at what is called by some the "German table". Come to think of it, I'm not sure which one is Kylie. I know there was one girl at that table who I thought was really hot. A stunner! She had some nice tan lines. I was sitting at the little couch closest to that table when she looked at me, turned around to show me her butt, then looked back at me and pointed to her butt. Like, "Do you want this"? I declined, planning to session with her during my next trip to Palace. But unfortunately, she was not there on the night of my return!

However Gina, who had not been there the first time, was there the second time I visited Palace during my last trip. She also sits at the German table. I call it the "pretty girls table" LOL. Well, they all think they're so hot. And, you know how my surreal session went with Gina! I wonder if the one who offered me her butt was Kylie? Very pretty and tanned with some nice tan lines on her butt! Should have taken her when I had the chance. Just more proof of one of the age old maxims of mongering. If you see something you like, then you better take it because you may never see it again!

TrueNature
05-24-17, 02:07
You know what HB? You're absolutely right! I was thinking of Stella, who also sits at what is called by some the "German table". Come to think of it, I'm not sure which one is Kylie. I know there was one girl at that table who I thought was really hot. A stunner! She had some nice tan lines. I was sitting at the little couch closest to that table when she looked at me, turned around to show me her butt, then looked back at me and pointed to her butt. Like, "Do you want this"? I declined, planning to session with her during my next trip to Palace. But unfortunately, she was not there on the night of my return!

However Gina, who had not been there the first time, was there the second time I visited Palace during my last trip. She also sits at the German table. I call it the "pretty girls table" LOL. Well, they all think they're so hot. And, you know how my surreal session went with Gina! I wonder if the one who offered me her butt was Kylie? Very pretty and tanned with some nice tan lines on her butt! Should have taken her when I had the chance. Just more proof of one of the age old maxims of mongering. If you see something you like, then you better take it because you may never see it again!Hello mate,

Well the tan lines was blonde? She is Romanian very best blow job ever actually there is a picture of her younger in palace hallway, love her! Yes german table has 5-6 very good looking girls, I never saw so many hot in same spot, at Sharks maybe 3-4 really really hot, Oase never, GT 3-4 really hot.

Hessen Bub
05-24-17, 07:08
Denisa (Romania) has tan lines from a string. Platinum blonde, petite, dancing at the pole from time to time, speaks German and English, has been around for many years. Pictures of her to be found in the entrance area.

HB.

TrueNature
05-24-17, 09:40
Denisa (Romania) has tan lines from a string. Platinum blonde, petite, dancing at the pole from time to time, speaks German and English, has been around for many years. Pictures of her to be found in the entrance area.

HB.Exactly that's it! That's the one! Very very good fuck in my top 5 of all times and sometimes she has hot girlfriend with her.

Jmioffe
05-25-17, 09:08
Visited Palace last night, was kind of a bust. Alas, I did not remember it was dessous tag and no one I wanted to see was present. I had considered going to Oase, which was on a discounted day, but from the reports it sounds like I dodged a bullet. Last couple of visits, Palace has fallen to Mainhattan levels for me.

All of these favorites, follow-ups or friendly faces (but would avoid otherwise) were not there last night. I'll be in town for a week, so if anyone can give a shout-out when they're present that'the be great — I'the return for some of them, but probably visit other clubs otherwise.

Lulu.

Lucy.

Kylie.

Chiara.

Olga.

Nikki.

Stella.

Chantal.

Only Patricia from France and (Serena?) - Latin-looking brunette appealed to me. Well, two Russians were ok. I've been with Natasha, but the experience was kind of meh. Can someone remind me of the name of the other Russian — older face, straight brown hair? Of the Germans, big blonde Marie was there, and Jenny's hair is no longer straight but frizzy. Gina was present as well.

ExpatLover
05-25-17, 13:59
Visited Palace last night, was kind of a bust. Alas, I did not remember it was dessous tag and no one I wanted to see was present. I had considered going to Oase, which was on a discounted day, but from the reports it sounds like I dodged a bullet. Last couple of visits, Palace has fallen to Mainhattan levels for me.

All of these favorites, follow-ups or friendly faces (but would avoid otherwise) were not there last night. I'll be in town for a week, so if anyone can give a shout-out when they're present that'the be great I'the return for some of them, but probably visit other clubs otherwise.

Lulu.

Lucy.

Kylie..Just read my reports about Palace, so you can save time and money.

Surfer101
05-25-17, 21:06
I'll be in town for a week, so if anyone can give a shout-out when they're present that would be great Man it's disappointing to hear the lineup has been so bad at Palace. The only time I've found it completely useless is when it gets between the 1:30 am - 4:00 am times when everyone is taken or ran through.

I'll be in Frankfurt mongering on May 31 and June 1. I was going to hit Palace and possibly Oase (never been there). The one time I tried something new in Frankfurt besides Palace, I took a 60 euro taxi to Sharks, walked around for 30 minutes avoiding the tired ass walking dead lineup and a squad of customers that looked like they just got done working on a real pirate ship that could be on the movie Pirates of the Caribbean. Took a 70 euro taxi to Palace (Damn you Germany for not allowing uber! Got there and it was already 0100 and dead. 130 euro in taxis, 140 in door fees and nothing to show for it but getting shit housed on over prices rum because everyone was taken. But I'd be damned if I was leaving because there's always a chance to hit something. Well. Just not that night!

To summarize, I'll be there on May 31 and June 1.

ExpatLover
05-26-17, 06:16
Man it's disappointing to hear the lineup has been so bad at Palace. The only time I've found it completely useless is when it gets between the 1:30 am - 4:00 am times when everyone is taken or ran through.

I'll be in Frankfurt mongering on May 31 and June 1. I was going to hit Palace and possibly Oase (never been there). The one time I tried something new in Frankfurt besides Palace, I took a 60 euro taxi to Sharks, walked around for 30 minutes avoiding the tired ass walking dead lineup and a squad of customers that looked like they just got done working on a real pirate ship that could be on the movie Pirates of the Caribbean. Took a 70 euro taxi to Palace (Damn you Germany for not allowing uber! Got there and it was already 0100 and dead. 130 euro in taxis, 140 in door fees and nothing to show for it but getting shit housed on over prices rum because everyone was taken. But I'd be damned if I was leaving because there's always a chance to hit something. Well. Just not that night!

To summarize, I'll be there on May 31 and June 1.Why don't you rent a car? Palace, Shark, Mainhattan, even Oase are easily accessible by public transport.

Jmioffe
05-27-17, 22:26
Oh, and Julie / Ainoa -- is she still there?


I'll be in town for a week, so if anyone can give a shout-out when they're present that'd be great I'the return for some of them, but probably visit other clubs otherwise.

Lulu.

Lucy.

Kylie.

Chiara.

Olga.

Nikki.

Stella.

Chantal.

Craiova
05-27-17, 23:04
Oh, and Julie / Ainoa -- is she still there?No unfortunately Julie / Ainoa isn't there anymore. I miss Julie / Ainoa too. One of the smartest beauty ever with world class service (ofc above the 50 euro league). Ainoa is in Top 10 of my ATB P6 girls.

Pistons
05-28-17, 06:52
Man it's disappointing to hear the lineup has been so bad at Palace. A lineup with Nicole and Lucy is not a bad lineup. And if you are lucky Maggie comes around too...

Jmioffe
06-01-17, 02:05
No unfortunately Julie / Ainoa isn't there anymore. I miss Julie / Ainoa too. One of the smartest beauty ever with world class service (ofc above the 50 euro league). Ainoa is in Top 10 of my ATB P6 girls.Thanks, that's too bad, but it's always bittersweet to hear girls have moved on. I hope if so, it's not just to another club. You can't be in this game forever.

If you're interested, Adele at Oase kind of reminds me of Julie.

Similar height, similar build -- maybe a little thicker, short haircut -- but blonde, similarly potentially a model, and kind of similar in personality, good-natured but aware of the powers of their beauty. But maybe it's just my perspective?

Mr Ho
06-01-17, 02:42
A lineup with Nicole and Lucy is not a bad lineup. And if you are lucky Maggie comes around too...And Jenny De. But she changed her hair? No!

They need to add more Hamburg German girls to palace LU.

Craiova
06-01-17, 04:20
Thanks, that's too bad, but it's always bittersweet to hear girls have moved on. I hope if so, it's not just to another club. You can't be in this game forever.

If you're interested, Adele at Oase kind of reminds me of Julie.

Similar height, similar build -- maybe a little thicker, short haircut -- but blonde, similarly potentially a model, and kind of similar in personality, good-natured but aware of the powers of their beauty. But maybe it's just my perspective?Julie / Ainoa doesn't work at any other club, she's taking a longer break since last year or maybe she quit forever, we will see. She started in summer 2014 at Mainhattan and when I saw her first time I just said "Wow". What a girl, what a body, very, very smart with perfect english and german. At this time she wasn't blonde and has half long dark hair.

The chemistry with her and me fitted perfect. And her sex level was unbelievabele high, almost no limits with me, almost everything was on her menu like anal or even RJ.

I will have a look for Adele at Oase when I'm next time there.

Be Wilder
06-02-17, 18:56
Decided to make sure my early summer trip was before the new laws take effect as there seems to be much uncertainty about whether owo will still be permitted and if the dynamic changes too much doubt if I will make purpose-built tours of Germany in the future which will be a great shame as I've really enjoyed the past few years.

Decided on a four day trip including my three favourites of Palace, Sharks and Oase and also a trip to World where I have not been since 2014. Went to Palace first as opposed to my usual first stop Sharks or Oase as I worked out I could save E50 by not taking a taxi as I usually do. The train from the airport is around 20 minutes and costs around E5. I stayed at the Inter City Hotel by Frankfurt HBF who give a free travel pass for the day and so I took the tram to Palace which is easy enough to do. I got there around 530 pm and left around 2 am. Entry was E75. It was quieter than I expected and were perhaps around 60 girls throughout. I was hoping that at least one of my favourite Palace girls would be present (small tit blonde Katerina or big fake knockers Sanziana) as they are in my all-time FKK Top 10 and was planning to devour them with all the energy I could muster. Unfortunately, neither were there but there was enough to keep me occupied. One of the things I like about Palace is that it offers a wider variety of girls than at Sharks and Oase albeit I thought the general quality was lower than on earlier visits.

1. Melania: Archetypal blonde bombshell, slim but nice pert boobs, long wavy hair, in her mid 20's and utterly gorgeous. She was wearing stockings and we don't get many of her sort in Dubai and certainly not for E50. She claims to be German.

I hadn't cum for around 2 weeks in anticipation of this trip but the downside of taking such an approach is that it can lead to very quick ejaculation and sadly that proved to be the case. A bit of nuzzling of the chest from Melania which I always enjoy and a few sucks and I was done! I was almost embarrassed and must be one of the easiest E50 she has ever made but not to worry as it is not every day you get your dick sucked by a woman of Melania's quality. I would like to see her again just to show I'm not always a two pump chump! E50.

2. Gloria and Ilona: I tend to have a lot of threesomes when in Frankfurt and aim to have one per day and so this was next on the list. Was approached by a number of girls and was glad to see one of my favourites Katherine (tall, slim, brown hair, up turned nose) and was eventually seduced by Gloria who is a busty girl but otherwise not my normal type. Slightly on the chunky side but without being fat and more likely late 20's / early 30's. I told her I wanted a threesome and we scanned a few candidates in front of us who I liked and all of whom she said she was happy with. She expressed a preference for Rozlyn (a nice looking girl) was the youngest and prettiest but given I had her last time, I wanted someone new and opted for Ilona who was likewise slightly older and fuller than my usual FKK girl. Ilona is a stauesque pale blonde.

I'm glad to say it was a memorable session. Both are good performers giving lots of foreplay, good blowjobs and in the case of Ilona some light kissing. I quickly upgraded the session to one hour as the early signs were promising and it was a struggle not to cum too early especially when I was doing Ilona in doggy. Earlier both had given me two rounds of blowjobs and I was doing Ilona slowly as if I went too hard I would explode. Then changed and Gloria mounted me cowgirl style and not being in charge of the pace, it wasn't too long before I came. Some post-coital bliss ensued and when I got my breath back, called an end to the session. It lasted perhaps 45-50 minutes which was fine by me as that seems to be my optimum length. E100.

3. Ena and Gloria: Had some time relaxing including a massage and ended up in the cinema to lie down. Was approached by a brown haired girl called Ena. Not my usual type, slightly older in her early 30's and not conventionally attractive but she was quite alluring and her caresses got me going. Was tempted to take up her offer of a blowie in the kino but decided to hold fire. She has natural boobs which are a decent handful and claims to be a mixture of Romanian, Turkish and Hungarian. Caught up with her later but decided I wanted another threesome. Katherine was readily available but she said she was only available for 30 minutes as she had another appointment whereas I was open to an hour. Likewise I couldn't see Rozlyn or a brunette friend she was with who I also fancied so decided to take Ena alone. However, on the way stumbled into Gloria and took her along for the ride.

Session was a good one. Both took turns giving me good blow jobs, I then had Gloria in missionary and then Ena in doggy which is how I finished. In fact, the session took less than 30 minutes and was a nice way to finish the night. E100.

Aside from the girls mentioned above, I also saw the following "exes":

Jacqueline: brownish hair, petite, natural look. Possibly the most attractive girl in the club and provides decent service. Was tempted but never got round to her.

Vanessa: - very fit brunette, nice tits though bit of a plump arse.

Marie: tall, pneumatic German blonde with massive fake knockers.

Overall, I enjoyed the evening even though the numbers and quality were slightly down on previous occasions. I should add there was no hounding by girls or attempts at upsell. Indeed none of them even asked for CIM or anal let alone some made up GFE package.

Mr Ho
06-02-17, 22:07
Overall, I enjoyed the evening even though the numbers and quality were slightly down on previous occasions. I should add there was no hounding by girls or attempts at upsell. Indeed none of them even asked for CIM or anal let alone some made up GFE package.Line up quality decreased at Palace? Even the German table? Hmmm if so. That is sad to hear.

No up sell? This is not the palace I know LOL.

BackpackBrian
06-03-17, 00:34
I was in Frankfurt between the 13-30 of May and I hit up Palace a couple of times along with all the other clubs including Globe in Zurich. I'm not sure who she was, but she was one of the blonds at Palace (not Gina or Kylie, maybe a Romanian) that gave me her pitch when she approached me. It was 50 for a BJ and sex and if I wanted a BBBJ and sex it was 100. I was surprised! I've been punting for 10+ years so I know the rules and the new laws coming in July. So I said "BBBJ is included in the 50" and she said "there is a law". I replied, "the law hasn't started yet, not until July and you're trying to trick me!" (said with a smile) She then stood up and walked away. I'm not planning another trip for a while and will wait to see what happens in July, but I think this is where it's heading.

Anyone else get any BBBJ up selling in the Frankfurt area?

FYI. I went with another guy I met in my hotel bar (he never experienced an FKK) and he said the one girl he went with refused to give him a BBBJ. This was after I told him all the rules and the prices, I think he even got the rules from the receptionist when we arrived as I explained to her it was his first time. When he told me this I told him it was included with the 50 and he said she wouldn't do it. I don't know this guy and will never see him again so maybe there was something wrong with him, deformation, warts, etc, etc? I can only guess at this point.

Pistons
06-03-17, 00:55
And Jenny De. But she changed her hair? No!

They need to add more Hamburg German girls to palace LU.Jenny or Jeanie. I think the one I know told me Jeanie. There is this cute frankfurt local blonde at 1.60ish (big tits) girl also at palace sometimes. Very fun in the room. Wasnt her name Jenny? I forgot. Jeanie is slim, maybe 1.66. Even face is slim. She was there, but that frankfurt girl is just around sometimes when she likes. But now my info is dated (2 weeks), so who cares?

Mr Ho
06-03-17, 03:11
Jenny or Jeanie. I think the one I know told me Jeanie. There is this cute frankfurt local blonde at 1.60ish (big tits) girl also at palace sometimes. Very fun in the room. Wasnt her name Jenny? I forgot. Jeanie is slim, maybe 1.66. Even face is slim. She was there, but that frankfurt girl is just around sometimes when she likes. But now my info is dated (2 weeks), so who cares?Jeanie or jenny, I do not know the spelling difference, but one I mean is natural body, slim, blonde girl. Nice, but upselling palace style LOL.

It is not that big tits one, one I like has normal sized beautiful tits, of course to experience this you shall experience Palace style up selling also it is palace package price LOL.

Mr Ho
06-03-17, 03:13
I was in Frankfurt between the 13-30 of May and I hit up Palace a couple of times along with all the other clubs including Globe in Zurich. I'm not sure who she was, but she was one of the blonds at Palace (not Gina or Kylie, maybe a Romanian) that gave me her pitch when she approached me. It was 50 for a BJ and sex and if I wanted a BBBJ and sex it was 100. I was surprised! I've been punting for 10+ years so I know the rules and the new laws coming in July. So I said "BBBJ is included in the 50" and she said "there is a law". I replied, "the law hasn't started yet, not until July and you're trying to trick me!" (said with a smile) She then stood up and walked away. I'm not planning another trip for a while and will wait to see what happens in July, but I think this is where it's heading.

Anyone else get any BBBJ up selling in the Frankfurt area?

FYI. I went with another guy I met in my hotel bar (he never experienced an FKK) and he said the one girl he went with refused to give him a BBBJ. This was after I told him all the rules and the prices, I think he even got the rules from the receptionist when we arrived as I explained to her it was his first time. When he told me this I told him it was included with the 50 and he said she wouldn't do it. I don't know this guy and will never see him again so maybe there was something wrong with him, deformation, warts, etc, etc? I can only guess at this point.If this begin in German FKK. It is better off to go to globe Zurich because price range is the same then with such upsell.

At Globe Zurich there is no negotiation, DFK, BBBJ all included and 30 min is 30 min.

I will not mind 100 euro one hour all included at German FKK, but if they begin to break it apart and try to up sell, I will switch to globe Zurich.

Ableyone
06-03-17, 13:27
Anyone else get any BBBJ up selling in the Frankfurt area?No, only at Oceans.

Banana Boi
06-03-17, 14:22
I said "BBBJ is included in the 50" and she said "there is a law". I replied, "the law hasn't started yet, not until July and you're trying to trick me!" (said with a smile) She then stood up and walked away. A sign of things to come. Looks like the real sharks have surfaced early. We need to stop going to FKK clubs that allow this BS. So many other destinations in the world.


No, only at Oceans.As I said above, we need to not support poorly managed clubs. I did my part by purposely avoiding Oceans the past 2 weeks.

Pistons
06-03-17, 15:23
No, only at Oceans.Only happened to me once at Oceans. New girl first day from Diamond. (Asked for 20e more) Perhaps not fully in line with club policies. Had it once at artemis too. Never in hessen.

One girl on my last trip did tell me 'from next month, only bj with condom'. I replied 'no, thats in almost 2 months'. And she answerred 'oh, ok so you know.' Can't remember 100% which club that was in (I was in 5). Blurry memory lol...

Be Wilder
06-03-17, 20:24
Line up quality decreased at Palace? Even the German table? Hmmm if so. That is sad to hear.

No up sell? This is not the palace I know LOL.Yes, I would say it has definitely gone down but hopefully it was just a one-off. For example, 3 of my favourite girls from Q42015 and 4 visits in 2016 who I would definitely repeated with were not there, namely blonde Katerina with small tits (claims to be from Albania), and busty enhanced brunettes Sanziana (claimed to be from Latvia) and Daniella (claimed to be from Canary Islands). And if they were there, I would have had to have doubled up every session to get the new girls I wanted which then seems to make it a bumper crop.

Also, I guess once you visit a club a few times and get for you the best girls out of your system they don't register as much, so for example, if I saw auburn Katherine, Jacqueline, Moldovan brunette Vanessa, and Teutonic blonde Marie for the first time my tongue would be scraping the floor but having had them previously wasn't too fussed about their presence this time.

But even taking the above factors into account, the general quality and indeed quantity was down. Surprisingly, given its reputation, I've not had too many instances of up-sells in Palace though I've rarely encountered DFK or DATY offered as standard. Whilst both enjoyable, they're not essential elements for me which is maybe why I've enjoyed Palace so much the past 18 months. BBJ / OWO is however an essential element so am concerned about the effect the new law will have. If it does add say another E50 to a session or is no longer available, I may end up visiting Globe instead for my kicks especially as the house rules seem more customer orientated.

ExpatLover
06-03-17, 22:07
Yes, I would say it has definitely gone down but hopefully it was just a one-off. For example, 3 of my favourite girls from Q42015 and 4 visits in 2016 who I would definitely repeated with were not there, namely blonde Katerina with small tits (claims to be from Albania), and busty enhanced brunettes Sanziana (claimed to be from Latvia) and Daniella (claimed to be from Canary Islands). And if they were there, I would have had to have doubled up every session to get the new girls I wanted which then seems to make it a bumper crop.

Also, I guess once you visit a club a few times and get for you the best girls out of your system they don't register as much, so for example, if I saw auburn Katherine, Jacqueline, Moldovan brunette Vanessa, and Teutonic blonde Marie for the first time my tongue would be scraping the floor but having had them previously wasn't too fussed about their presence this time.

But even taking the above factors into account, the general quality and indeed quantity was down. Surprisingly, given its reputation, I've not had too many instances of up-sells in Palace though I've rarely encountered DFK or DATY offered as standard. Whilst both enjoyable, they're not essential elements for me which is maybe why I've enjoyed Palace so much the past 18 months. BBJ / OWO is however an essential element so am concerned about the effect the new law will have. If it does add say another E50 to a session or is no longer available, I may end up visiting Globe instead for my kicks especially as the house rules seem more customer orientated.Palace is a going down FKK, just a tourist trap.

Mr Ho
06-03-17, 22:56
Yes, I would say it has definitely gone down but hopefully it was just a one-off. For example, 3 of my favourite girls from Q42015 and 4 visits in 2016 who I would definitely repeated with were not there, namely blonde Katerina with small tits (claims to be from Albania), and busty enhanced brunettes Sanziana (claimed to be from Latvia) and Daniella (claimed to be from Canary Islands). And if they were there, I would have had to have doubled up every session to get the new girls I wanted which then seems to make it a bumper crop.

Also, I guess once you visit a club a few times and get for you the best girls out of your system they don't register as much, so for example, if I saw auburn Katherine, Jacqueline, Moldovan brunette Vanessa, and Teutonic blonde Marie for the first time my tongue would be scraping the floor but having had them previously wasn't too fussed about their presence this time.

But even taking the above factors into account, the general quality and indeed quantity was down. Surprisingly, given its reputation, I've not had too many instances of up-sells in Palace though I've rarely encountered DFK or DATY offered as standard. Whilst both enjoyable, they're not essential elements for me which is maybe why I've enjoyed Palace so much the past 18 months. BBJ / OWO is however an essential element so am concerned about the effect the new law will have. If it does add say another E50 to a session or is no longer available, I may end up visiting Globe instead for my kicks especially as the house rules seem more customer orientated.Well I do not mind going one hour 100 euro for all inclusive like BBBJ DFK etc, if they charge extra, then better for us to go to globe Zurich. Better service there, no negotiation needed and 30 min is 30 min.

Mr Ho
06-03-17, 23:03
Only happened to me once at Oceans. New girl first day from Diamond. (Asked for 20e more) Perhaps not fully in line with club policies. Had it once at artemis too. Never in hessen.

One girl on my last trip did tell me 'from next month, only bj with condom'. I replied 'no, thats in almost 2 months'. And she answerred 'oh, ok so you know.' Can't remember 100% which club that was in (I was in 5). Blurry memory lol...You do not remember which club? You smoke green like me? LOL.

Yeah oceans is the lowest service providing club in nrw, but still better service than palace, just got to go one hour then it is all cool at oceans. Palace requires upsell LOL.

After this July, I will wait and go later on this year to see for myself.

I do not seek it for 50 euro 30 min session, but if they begin to charge extra for it, then I am going to change to globe Zurich or I might give shot at GT in Vienna Austria.

In the worst case, we got globe Zurich anyways, it will be in same price range if the girls in German FKK charge extra for BBBJ.

Be Wilder
06-04-17, 20:38
Well I do not mind going one hour 100 euro for all inclusive like BBBJ DFK etc, if they charge extra, then better for us to go to globe Zurich. Better service there, no negotiation needed and 30 min is 30 min.Yes, indeed. Out of interest how much does 30 and 60 minutes cost in FKK Globe? And can you pay in Euros? Also, are CIM and anal extra?

ExpatLover
06-04-17, 21:00
You do not remember which club? You smoke green like me? LOL.

Yeah oceans is the lowest service providing club in nrw, but still better service than palace, just got to go one hour then it is all cool at oceans. Palace requires upsell LOL.

After this July, I will wait and go later on this year to see for myself.

I do not seek it for 50 euro 30 min session, but if they begin to charge extra for it, then I am going to change to globe Zurich or I might give shot at GT in Vienna Austria.

In the worst case, we got globe Zurich anyways, it will be in same price range if the girls in German FKK charge extra for BBBJ.Most of the girls will not charge extra money they will just refuse to do it, it is just what they are telling me, they want to protect their health and are very happy about the new law concerning this aspect, obviously to get registered is another story for the girls.

Hessen Bub
06-04-17, 21:45
140 SFR / 30 min and 280 SFR / 60 min.

CIM and anal are of course an extra. If I remember right they are 100 SFR extra each.

You can pay in Euro but don't expect a decent exchange rate.

HB.

Mr Ho
06-04-17, 23:16
140 SFR / 30 min and 280 SFR / 60 min.

CIM and anal are of course an extra. If I remember right they are 100 SFR extra each.

You can pay in Euro but don't expect a decent exchange rate.

HB.You are right, they will offer you FKK exchange rate LOL.

Well what I can hope for is chf becoming cheaper, but that is not hopeful giving the world situation and Switzerland being safe haven for many.

ExpatLover
06-05-17, 07:25
You are right, they will offer you FKK exchange rate LOL.

Well what I can hope for is chf becoming cheaper, but that is not hopeful giving the world situation and Switzerland being safe haven for many.If this is your idea of what haven or paradise should be, for sure I never want to live there it is far too hypocritic, and on top of all boring.

Sirioja
06-05-17, 14:17
140 SFR / 30 min and 280 SFR / 60 min.

CIM and anal are of course an extra. If I remember right they are 100 SFR extra each.

You can pay in Euro but don't expect a decent exchange rate.

HB.1 € or USD for 1 CHF in Swiss clubs.

At Globe, first 30 mn are 140 , can t stay less, when at Bumsalp quicky rabbit 15 mn for 110 , then 70 more for each 15 mn more at Globe. Real sweet social time before and usually shower together after.

Some Swiss clubs are only 63 for 30 mn if you don't need DFK, 37 more for DFK at History. 63 including BBBJ, rate clubs like History Basel Liestal, Westside also close to German border and maybe Palace Luzern, may be less expensive than Germany after 1st July, with free BBBJ. Club Swiss Dietikon is 89 with DFK and BBBJ with really very friendly girls.

Alors YY and 6 ens NL for free BBBJ after 1st July.

Mr Ho
06-05-17, 22:28
1 or USD for 1 CHF in Swiss clubs.

At Globe, first 30 mn are 140 , can t stay less, when at Bumsalp quicky rabbit 15 mn for 110 , then 70 more for each 15 mn more at Globe. Real sweet social time before and usually shower together after.

Some Swiss clubs are only 63 for 30 mn if you don't need DFK, 37 more for DFK at History. 63 including BBBJ, rate clubs like History Basel Liestal, Westside also close to German border and maybe Palace Luzern, may be less expensive than Germany after 1st July, with free BBBJ. Club Swiss Dietikon is 89 with DFK and BBBJ with really very friendly girls.

Alors YY and 6 ens NL for free BBBJ after 1st July.Have you been to Zeus Luzern?

Sirioja
06-06-17, 00:16
Have you been to Zeus Luzern?On 2011 , for legendary Mia, working between Zeus and Aphrodite Montreux. I followed her. I miss her, but my fault if we stopped, I stopped, my mistake.

XXL
06-06-17, 17:54
I had a very good session with Isabel (long curly hair, aspirin white skin, extensive tattoos, dark eyes that remind me of French singer icon Edith Piaf). Her blow-job was perfect and she could maximise friction and sensation in every position. The epitome of the highly skilled prostitute. The tattoo running down her spine said "Pierrot". She told me it was the name of her son, which sounded like BS.

Palace had air-con in some of the rooms. With air-con, a Palace room is the best room to have sex in all the places I know of in Germany.

I saw no more than 20 girls in all but why so few men? Not that I minded, but on the next day Manhattan had less (and less good-looking) girls and many more men.

Craiova
06-06-17, 18:13
I saw no more than 20 girls in all but why so few men? Not that I minded, but on the next day Manhattan had less (and less good-looking) girls and many more men.Sorry but when you compare apples with pears than it's obvious that your impressions are senseless. As you reported you stayed one hour at Mainhattan and left already at early Sunday afternoon at 3 pm. And this you compare with a Saturday LU? On Saturday evening were more than 50 girls at Mainhattan.

Hessen Bub
06-07-17, 08:13
I saw no more than 20 girls in all but why so few men? Palace is definitely a night club and doesn't really get going before 7 or 8 pm. Some girls arrive event at 9 or 10 pm. So in the day there's few girls and few men.

HB.

Jmioffe
06-10-17, 01:35
Palace is definitely a night club and doesn't really get going before 7 or 8 pm. Some girls arrive event at 9 or 10 pm. So in the day there's few girls and few men.

HB.I've even seen a few of the Palace vets show up at Sharks.

Lefeu
06-15-17, 04:49
We stopped by Palace recently and the result was mixed. The place looked empty on a Monday evening, and by the time we left around midnight, not much had changed. There was some eye candy as expected, but the aggressive selling is still going on. A girl commented that management is trying to improve the situation, but the girls don't seem interested in changing much. The first girl I took in the room was Romanian and full of promises, but it all changed once in the room. That left left a bad taste in my mouth.

Luckily, I stumbled later into Isabel, and the Italian chick made up for my previous disappointment. She was friendly, professional, and delivered on all fronts. However, I doubt I will be back to Palace on this trip. Better options elsewhere.

Mr Ho
06-15-17, 05:27
We stopped by Palace recently and the result was mixed. The place looked empty on a Monday evening, and by the time we left around midnight, not much had changed. There was some eye candy as expected, but the aggressive selling is still going on. A girl commented that management is trying to improve the situation, but the girls don't seem interested in changing much. The first girl I took in the room was Romanian and full of promises, but it all changed once in the room. That left left a bad taste in my mouth.

Luckily, I stumbled later into Isabel, and the Italian chick made up for my previous disappointment. She was friendly, professional, and delivered on all fronts. However, I doubt I will be back to Palace on this trip. Better options elsewhere.Extreme upsell is the central culture of palace, it is known for it LOL.

If promise is broken in room, then cut the session at 30 min and pay her 50 euro as that is the price.

Turgid
06-15-17, 08:45
I've even seen a few of the Palace vets show up at Sharks.Prolly explains the increased upselling at Sharks.

ExpatLover
06-15-17, 09:44
We stopped by Palace recently and the result was mixed. The place looked empty on a Monday evening, and by the time we left around midnight, not much had changed. There was some eye candy as expected, but the aggressive selling is still going on. A girl commented that management is trying to improve the situation, but the girls don't seem interested in changing much. The first girl I took in the room was Romanian and full of promises, but it all changed once in the room. That left left a bad taste in my mouth.

Luckily, I stumbled later into Isabel, and the Italian chick made up for my previous disappointment. She was friendly, professional, and delivered on all fronts. However, I doubt I will be back to Palace on this trip. Better options elsewhere.No need to visit Palace if you can visit Oase or Shark. First this club has to improve many things and to start to be customer focus. Was my favorite club in 2009/10, since never put my feet there. Too expensive for what they offer, also no garden.

Pistons
06-15-17, 10:25
Prolly explains the increased upselling at Sharks.Nah, the 2 ex palace girls I saw most recently at sharks were not among the top upsellers at palace. Like at a few other clubs, management just has to figure out who the bad apples among the girls are... although I doubt they have the guts to do it... don't forget the main reason girls leave a club seem to be that they dislike other girls in their old club. Some girls hate the guts of some other girls who tries to project leadership for example... or because of jealousy towards other girls...

El Grande
06-15-17, 10:49
I tried Sharks the first time last Thursday as it was the only big Frankfurt area club I never visited due to the bad comments here. For my taste it's to dark, like Oase.

However, not as many girls as Sharks but a few very good looking ones. A bit more silicone than in other clubs. I had a few nice chats and 3 sessions and all were great. No upselling, no stress. Best one was with A Venezuelan girl (I forgot her name). So I definitely will return there when I'm in Fft next time.

Mr Ho
06-15-17, 12:28
I tried Sharks the first time last Thursday as it was the only big Frankfurt area club I never visited due to the bad comments here. For my taste it's to dark, like Oase.

However, not as many girls as Sharks but a few very good looking ones. A bit more silicone than in other clubs. I had a few nice chats and 3 sessions and all were great. No upselling, no stress. Best one was with A Venezuelan girl (I forgot her name). So I definitely will return there when I'm in Fft next time.Venezuelan girl, Chloe?

Always Randy
06-15-17, 14:13
Tourist trap! Palace has the most expensive entry of all Frankfurt FKK and the pushiest ladies. So much so that they introduced two wristband options. One colour that allows girls to approach and another colour that acts as a nubile repellent. They are supposed to leave you alone. The problem is some girls claim to not know this and even Palace staff at night don't know which colour is the one for "do not approach" that was given out during the daytime.

On a recent Tuesday visit, the place was empty for much of the day so the ladies approached every man. I was sleeping soundly on the swinging bench when one girl woke me up from my slumber. Didn't apologize but continued with the sales pitch and that we can go rest together in the room.

Sessioned with Tisiane, since she actually took the time to chat a bit before suggesting to go to the room. I am guessing late 20's from Croatia who she said only does this to supplement income occasionally. Works about a month and half in the summer and again in the winter for the last 3 years and will call it quits after this year. At least that was her story.

Bartender in front bar by changeroom is cute with glasses and big smile. She says she's been there for two years. Wish she'd jump to the other side and don a towel! Also there is a young attendant that picks up towels and cups. Hangs out in the room behind the swinging bench. She never makes eye contact with the men. Anyone been able to crack a smile out of her?

UltraHappy
06-15-17, 15:21
Tourist trap! Palace has the most expensive entry of all Frankfurt FKK and the pushiest ladies. So much so that they introduced two wristband options. One colour that allows girls to approach and another colour that acts as a nubile repellent. They are supposed to leave you alone. The problem is some girls claim to not know this and even Palace staff at night don't know which colour is the one for "do not approach" that was given out during the daytime.
I spotted a fellow at Oase reading a book recently in the restaurant (food was being served outside). He didn't want anyone bothering him while he was trying to enjoy his book, so he set one of these multilingual do-not-disturb knockers out on the table in front of him: https://goo.gl/TmD9I5 Haha. Made me laugh when I saw this.

I would have thought it would have been much more comfortable reading in the relax room with the comfy sofas and recliners, where the girls weren't allowed to approach. So, I don't know why he chose to read in the restaurant.

Maybe you could just affix a couple of these to your person when visiting Palace? You may need to add a line in Romanian just to be sure: "Va rog nu deranjati" though. When a girl approaches you, you could just point to your little sign. LOL.

ExpatLover
06-15-17, 20:13
I spotted a fellow at Oase reading a book recently in the restaurant (food was being served outside). He didn't want anyone bothering him while he was trying to enjoy his book, so he set one of these multilingual do-not-disturb knockers out on the table in front of him: https://goo.gl/TmD9I5 Haha. Made me laugh when I saw this.

I would have thought it would have been much more comfortable reading in the relax room with the comfy sofas and recliners, where the girls weren't allowed to approach. So, I don't know why he chose to read in the restaurant.

Maybe you could just affix a couple of these to your person when visiting Palace? You may need to add a line in Romanian just to be sure: "Va rog nu deranjati" though. When a girl approaches you, you could just point to your little sign. LOL.May be because he has free WiFi in the restaurant.

PunchBowl
06-15-17, 21:33
Due to 4 visits in a row of a customer of mine, I thought I give the palace another try. I checked in around 8 pm on a Wednesday night, and after I brushed off too up sellers Isabelle introduced herself to me. She claimed being Italian from Bari, was pretty buffed up body in the 50 kilo range with C-cup enhanced breasts. Her skin very pale with a written tattoo on her back and reddish hair. In the room she delivered deep french kisses, good BBBJ and excellent doggie style fucking. Will certainly repeat at next visit.

I offered her the CIM option, without her asking for it, but she could not succeed on that.

The Cane
06-16-17, 05:36
Due to 4 visits in a row of a customer of mine, I thought I give the palace another try. I checked in around 8 pm on a Wednesday night, and after I brushed off too up sellers Isabelle introduced herself to me. She claimed being Italian from Bari, was pretty buffed up body in the 50 kilo range with C-cup enhanced breasts. Her skin very pale with a written tattoo on her back and reddish hair. In the room she delivered deep french kisses, good BBBJ and excellent doggie style fucking. Will certainly repeat at next visit.

I offered her the CIM option, without her asking for it, but she could not succeed on that.I wonder if this is the same Isabelle who was over at Oase several months ago? She was a good fuck, but pissed me off by upselling the price for anal in the act of doing the deed!

Mr Ho
06-17-17, 02:42
I wonder if this is the same Isabelle who was over at Oase several months ago? She was a good fuck, but pissed me off by upselling the price for anal in the act of doing the deed!Usually, girls do not use the same working name for clubs. I never figured out why though.

The Cane
06-20-17, 14:37
Usually, girls do not use the same working name for clubs. I never figured out why though.I find it annoying when the girls are changing their names all the time from club to club. I would also think that in many cases, if they had built up a strong clientele, that they would want to keep the same name so that their admirers will know where to find them. There is one reason for name changing though. At least at some clubs, like at Palace because Gina told me this, if a new girl shows up and somebody else is already using a name the new girl wants to use, then the new girl is required to pick another name. I don't think it's a rule at every club, but Palace does have this rule.

YoungAndNew47
06-20-17, 20:38
So I'm completely new to this (I'm 20) can you suggest which place do I go to from the airport. Also safest (since I am a student & don't have a lot of cash on me).

Preferences Caucasian athletic. Typical.

Thank you.

Mr Ho
06-20-17, 22:47
I find it annoying when the girls are changing their names all the time from club to club. I would also think that in many cases, if they had built up a strong clientele, that they would want to keep the same name so that their admirers will know where to find them. There is one reason for name changing though. At least at some clubs, like at Palace because Gina told me this, if a new girl shows up and somebody else is already using a name the new girl wants to use, then the new girl is required to pick another name. I don't think it's a rule at every club, but Palace does have this rule.In a way yes, but I think it is club rule?

If girls do let say twitter account with working name with or without photo of them which is up to them to decide and posting where and when she works etc. They would make more money in more organized way as we mongers follow that, but I think they do not care as money comes anyways, but if girls do that it would be more organized income with clients of their choice. Some of them do this with whatup app, but not in organized way.

Well. German FKK has best format till now, but if after this summer things change radically, then we mongers have to shift and it is just few weeks away LOL.

I think at the beginning not much change with old FKK girls, but with new ones comes into industry, and with time it will change for sure quite radically as girls will target any weak point on mongers side.

So looks like I got to shift my mongering destination either to Zürich or Austria, I mean I begin to have strong feeling that this will happen one day or another, maybe even this winter trip, I may try out gt Vienna.

ExpatLover
06-21-17, 05:22
So I'm completely new to this (I'm 20) can you suggest which place do I go to from the airport. Also safest (since I am a student & don't have a lot of cash on me).

Preferences Caucasian athletic. Typical.

Thank you.Prostitution is legal in Germany consequently it is very safe. 5 hours looks very short (may some delay, need some time on the custom etc.) may be the best will be to take the public transport and go to the main railway station Frankfurt in the RLD. I was there many times but never mongered. Or you can try to take a taxi to FKK Shark but probably 50 euros and 30 minutes.

MythoVirus
06-28-17, 11:34
So I'm completely new to this (I'm 20) can you suggest which place do I go to from the airport. Also safest (since I am a student & don't have a lot of cash on me).

Preferences Caucasian athletic. Typical.

Thank you.IMO, going to an FKK for mere few hours is not recommended, you should at least stay for 6 hours+ to enjoy what FKK truly brings to the table.

If you have few hours for quickies I advise to visit Frankfurt RLD, cheap sessions for 20-50 euro, no entry fee, fuck and go like a fast food meal.

Iceberg27
07-05-17, 11:32
I was just sitting in my hotel room bored and trying to decide to go to a FKK on a Monday night or take my time in city center. I know it is the worst day for a FKK but also a very bad day for nightlife in the city. Suddenly I figured out on here forum. It is the stockings day. I love stockings so much. I wouldn't eat my words. I remember previous time I came to Palace for Dress day and it was a total disappointment. I thought I would take my shot and If i didn't like I would go out for the city center. Normally I was so decisive not to come here again. Just gave another chance here because I didn't has any better choice for a Monday night. When I arrived I noticed that even on a normal night the no of girls wearing stockings in Oase was more than here. Because there was only 20 girls around. In Oase total number of 40 girls and lets say half of them wear stokcings and you will have the same. Just as I am entered two russians took my arm and one of them was really insistive to take me them for a double session. She was a nice russian blonde so I make her in my mind and told her that I will take here after I got something to eat. For the newbie punters I can give three sentences to save you from attacks and aggressiveness in that kind of places.

1) I already arrived and will eat something and I will find you later.

2) I already ate too much food and need some time to digest it.

3) I was already with another girl and need some time to recover.

Don't forget to give her a kiss and tell her how nice she looks.

I really took her after my dinner and dealed with her 100 euro DFK and CIM. It was really a nice session. I can say I never had a bad session with a russian girl.

My second choice was a girl from machedonia I guess and unfortunately I also don't remember her name. She has black hair and a little bit fat. White skin. Bumb hair.

Third one was another blonde russian that I got in kino. She was submissive and taking her in reverse doggy was really enjoyable since she doesn't have a very nice face but a very good body.

All in all I can prefer Palace over Sharks in my future visits because for 100 Euro you get the same in both places. I would never think that I will say something like that but you will understand when you read my report on Sharks.

I accept there is too much uppselling and girls are really insistive but they are asking you that you want to be approached by girls or not in the entrance and they gave you a different color of band. I think girls don't give a sh. To this.They approach you anyway.They dont care about color of your wristband. I take three girls in total and all sessions were ok. For my first session of trip in Oase I wish to have that nice russian blonde instead of Yelena in Oase because she allowed me and encouraged me to cumm on her face. That was really a worthwile 50 euro paid for a nice CIM on a beautiful face of a nice russian. Unforgettable.

Mr Ho
07-05-17, 12:45
I was just sitting in my hotel room bored and trying to decide to go to a FKK on a Monday night or take my time in city center. I know it is the worst day for a FKK but also a very bad day for nightlife in the city. Suddenly I figured out on here forum. It is the stockings day. I love stockings so much. I wouldn't eat my words. I remember previous time I came to Palace for Dress day and it was a total disappointment. I thought I would take my shot and If i didn't like I would go out for the city center. Normally I was so decisive not to come here again. Just gave another chance here because I didn't has any better choice for a Monday night. When I arrived I noticed that even on a normal night the no of girls wearing stockings in Oase was more than here. Because there was only 20 girls around. In Oase total number of 40 girls and lets say half of them wear stokcings and you will have the same. Just as I am entered two russians took my arm and one of them was really insistive to take me them for a double session. She was a nice russian blonde so I make her in my mind and told her that I will take here after I got something to eat. For the newbie punters I can give three sentences to save you from attacks and aggressiveness in that kind of places..Go to German table, they are arguably reasonable, arguably LOL.

Sirioja
07-05-17, 13:19
Even if you ask for grey color on desk, Palace girls don t care and come to you, but in a friendly way, so not big problem.

Good foods, good jacuzzi / swimming pool.

ExpatLover
07-05-17, 16:47
Even if you ask for grey color on desk, Palace girls don t care and come to you, but in a friendly way, so not big problem.

Good foods, good jacuzzi / swimming pool.Personally I black listed this club in 2011, in summer no garden just a pity, it is more a fair club (big Messe), also entry fee is the most expensive with Artemis.

Mr Ho
07-05-17, 21:40
Even if you ask for grey color on desk, Palace girls don t care and come to you, but in a friendly way, so not big problem.

Good foods, good jacuzzi / swimming pool.I like that swimming pool as usually you got the pool for yourself, food is OK, I actually like the food at GT Bruggen or oceans better.

Palace has good looking girls, but more than usually, you will face upsell.

Sirioja
07-06-17, 03:00
I like that swimming pool as usually you got the pool for yourself, food is OK, I actually like the food at GT Bruggen or oceans better.

Palace has good looking girls, but more than usually, you will face upsell.Except small cute Lucy, very average casting for my 3 Saturday visits. No other girls done. I ate good.

Mr Ho
07-07-17, 05:02
Except small cute Lucy, very average casting for my 3 Saturday visits. No other girls done. I ate good.I hope German table is good quality optically as usual.

Love Seeker
07-11-17, 16:01
I have done much mongering in Colombia and the Dominican Republic. Also Thailand and the Philippines. I have never been to Germany or the FKK seen. I am a College professor planning a trip during my Thanksgiving break November 16 - November 26. I can fly into Frankfurt with a direct flight from Detroit (8 hours) for $1250.00. Would you guys recommend doing one of the FFK Tours? I like the idea of someone picking me up at the airport and driving me to the clubs. But I believe they are charging too much. I could rent a car and find them myself or take taxis. Any advice for a first time traveler.

The Cane
07-11-17, 16:23
I have done much mongering in Colombia and the Dominican Republic. Also Thailand and the Philippines. I have never been to Germany or the FKK seen. I am a College professor planning a trip during my Thanksgiving break November 16 - November 26. I can fly into Frankfurt with a direct flight from Detroit (8 hours) for $1250.00. Would you guys recommend doing one of the FFK Tours? I like the idea of someone picking me up at the airport and driving me to the clubs. But I believe they are charging too much. I could rent a car and find them myself or take taxis. Any advice for a first time traveler.No need to spend money on an FKK Tour. This is my strong opinion. What you need to do is get a hotel room located in the close vicinity of the central train station called the Hauptbanhof. From there, if you want to go to Palace you can take a taxi. Same for Mainhattan. To get to Oase, World, and Sharks you can take an inexpensive train. I once was an FKK newbie too. This is how I have been doing it from that very first trip (although Sharks was not in business when I started), and I've continued to do Frankfurt this way. If I can do it, you can do it too! You have plenty of time to get good info on the trains, including using YouTube. I remember years ago somebody posted videos on how to use the trains in Frankfurt. So go and have fun. And write us a report! It will be interesting to know what the BBBJ situation is in Germany by the time you hit Frankfurt later this year.

Banana Boi
07-11-17, 16:41
Do not take a FKK tour. Easy to do on your own. 1250 usd seems a bit pricey to fly from eastern USA. You have 10 days so consider nrw for part of your trip. If you're driving definitely check out nrw too. Read the club threads to decide which to go to.

MythoVirus
07-11-17, 16:43
I have done much mongering in Colombia and the Dominican Republic. Also Thailand and the Philippines. I have never been to Germany or the FKK seen. I am a College professor planning a trip during my Thanksgiving break November 16 - November 26. I can fly into Frankfurt with a direct flight from Detroit (8 hours) for $1250.00. Would you guys recommend doing one of the FFK Tours? I like the idea of someone picking me up at the airport and driving me to the clubs. But I believe they are charging too much. I could rent a car and find them myself or take taxis. Any advice for a first time traveler.Google map is 100% accurate when it comes to Germany FKK clubs, don't do the tour it's not worth the money IMO, Germany roads are super safe and fun to drive on.

Picking a tour means you are stuck with whatever FKK club they go to, and you need to visit / leave a club based on the tour schedule, imagine if you want to stay more in a club, or maybe you would like to visit the same club twice. You have to wake-up, sleep based on their timing and not yours. The only con I can see is you might find some guys you enjoy their company, but what are the odds anyways.

That's my opinion.

If you love blowjob without condom you have to wait and see how the new law affects the sex clubs, as at the moment nothing is stable, so if you enjoy blowjob without condoms, and till November it's still banned and not easy to find then you might want to try visiting FKK clubs outside of Germany, such as Austria and Switz. If you don't care about blowjob without a condom then Germany is the right place.

If you decide to visit Germany, the most easy clubs to access as a starter is in Frankfurt, FKK Oase, FKK World, FKK Shark, FKK Palace, and FKK Mainhatten. Each club has it's own attraction and no matter what anyone say, they are all good, and which is the best comes to your subjective preferance.

If you are going to stay more than a week then I recommend you visit Cologne to continue your FKK journey.

All in all you will not regret that decision if you are into European girls.

Enjoy, and try your best to avoid the commercial tour.

ExpatLover
07-11-17, 20:54
No need to spend money on an FKK Tour. This is my strong opinion. What you need to do is get a hotel room located in the close vicinity of the central train station called the Hauptbanhof. From there, if you want to go to Palace you can take a taxi. Same for Mainhattan. To get to Oase, World, and Sharks you can take an inexpensive train. I once was an FKK newbie too. This is how I have been doing it from that very first trip (although Sharks was not in business when I started), and I've continued to do Frankfurt this way. If I can do it, you can do it too! You have plenty of time to get good info on the trains, including using YouTube. I remember years ago somebody posted videos on how to use the trains in Frankfurt. So go and have fun. And write us a report! It will be interesting to know what the BBBJ situation is in Germany by the time you hit Frankfurt later this year.It is a joke or what, when I travel in the US I don t need to look you tube to take the train or the subway, it is exactly the same as in the US, and very easy to find people who can speak English in case.

Love Seeker
07-11-17, 20:55
Thanks you The Cane, Banana Boi, and Mytho Virus for your nice response. The US dollar is strong against the Euro so I believe it is a good time to give Germany a try. Do many of the girls speak English? Any suggestions on a hotel in Frankurt. Has anyone used the Townhouse Hotel https://www.hotels.com/hotel/details.html?q-check-out=2017-11-26&FPQ=2&q-check-in=2017-11-16&WOE=7&WOD=4&q-room-0-children=0&pa=4&tab=description&JHR=6&hotel-id=260902&q-room-0-adults=2&YGF=14&MGT=7&ZSX=0&SYE=3.

Pistons
07-11-17, 21:00
Try looking into cheaper flight routes with wow air or Norwegian air for example. Might need to make 1 or 2 transfers, but it can save you easily 600+ usd.

YourBoyRoc
07-12-17, 03:58
I have done much mongering in Colombia and the Dominican Republic. Also Thailand and the Philippines. I have never been to Germany or the FKK seen. I am a College professor planning a trip during my Thanksgiving break November 16 - November 26. I can fly into Frankfurt with a direct flight from Detroit (8 hours) for $1250.00. Would you guys recommend doing one of the FFK Tours? I like the idea of someone picking me up at the airport and driving me to the clubs. But I believe they are charging too much. I could rent a car and find them myself or take taxis. Any advice for a first time traveler.I've been to DR twice this year. I also went to Philippines this past March. I went to Sharks twice in January and loved it. However, in my opinion the Dominican women are more sexy my favorite. I'm traveling back to Germany next month but I might change my plans and go back to DR instead, that's if this new law changes things. You definitely don't need to take the tour. Waste of money.

Question for you. How would you compare Colombian women to Dominican women? Are most Colombian women fake? Going to Columbia in November wondering if I should just stick with DR. Don't really like fake butts and boobs.

Hermann666
07-12-17, 09:55
Thanks you The Cane, Banana Boi, and Mytho Virus for your nice response. The US dollar is strong against the Euro so I believe it is a good time to give Germany a try. Do many of the girls speak English? Any suggestions on a hotel in Frankurt. Has anyone used the Townhouse Hotel https://www.hotels.com/hotel/details.html?q-check-out=2017-11-26&FPQ=2&q-check-in=2017-11-16&WOE=7&WOD=4&q-room-0-children=0&pa=4&tab=description&JHR=6&hotel-id=260902&q-room-0-adults=2&YGF=14&MGT=7&ZSX=0&SYE=3.Almost all girls speak decent English. In fact, all girls speak at least three languages. English, German and the language of their home country.

DrPoon
07-12-17, 10:03
English is way easier of a language than German it only has one version of "the".

German has das, die, and der.

Many other more complexities in German so learning English for a German is way easier. Also English itself is a Germanic language group. English started by mixing older versions of Germanic languages with Latin back when the Roman Empire invaded what s now England.


Almost all girls speak decent English. In fact, all girls speak at least three languages. English, German and the language of their home country.

KC Questor
07-13-17, 04:22
Question for you. How would you compare Colombian women to Dominican women? Are most Colombian women fake? Going to Columbia in November wondering if I should just stick with DR. Don't really like fake butts and boobs.This is off topic, and you weren't asking me, but I'll chime in. I find Colombian women to be no more or less fake than Dominican women. If there are more fake boobs and butts in Colombia, it is because the women are more affluent there. If you stick to Cartagena and Bogota, then you will find more "professional" providers and will see some fake boobs and butts. But if you go to Medellin or Cali or Baranquilla you will find women as natural as any in the DR. You also have MUCH more variety in Colombia, from the dark-skinned beauties of the coast to the blonde, blue-eyed paisas of the mountains.

Pistons
07-13-17, 05:06
English is way easier of a language than German it only has one version of "the".

German has das, die, and der.

Many other more complexities in German so learning English for a German is way easier. Also English itself is a Germanic language group. English started by mixing older versions of Germanic languages with Latin back when the Roman Empire invaded what s now England.Modern English is a result of a language that has changed multiple times. Your simplified definition is more wrong than right.

Old English started as a Celtic language, and even today about 1/3 of English is related to old Celtic / Gaelic languages.

Then came the invaders from northern Germany, Denmark and Norway where the Scandinavian (not German) syntax was brought into the English language, and another 1/3 of the words were infused into the language.

Finally came the invasion by the Normans from Normandy (not France), where the Normans had been culturally and linguistically influenced by the french. So they brought with them lots of french / Latin words. Perhaps 1/3. Although at the time the syntax was still Germanic (again not German) in Normandy, so that stayed the same.

In Europe most countries have been quite open to different language intercourse and influences through the centuries aside from the french who are famed for linguistic depression on minorities throughout history.

YourBoyRoc
07-13-17, 11:05
This is off topic, and you weren't asking me, but I'll chime in. I find Colombian women to be no more or less fake than Dominican women. If there are more fake boobs and butts in Colombia, it is because the women are more affluent there. If you stick to Cartagena and Bogota, then you will find more "professional" providers and will see some fake boobs and butts. But if you go to Medellin or Cali or Baranquilla you will find women as natural as any in the DR. You also have MUCH more variety in Colombia, from the dark-skinned beauties of the coast to the blonde, blue-eyed paisas of the mountains.Luckily, I will be traveling to Medellin. I am looking forward to it even more, now. Thanks for your feedback.

Sebastiane
07-14-17, 02:52
Luckily, I will be traveling to Medellin. I am looking forward to it even more, now. Thanks for your feedback.The most beautiful girl I've ever swived in an FKK (probably) was a Colombian -- she looked like a supermodel and was very open minded in bed but also very feminine and 'innocent' at the same time. Will never forget her as long as I live. Martha!

Mr Ho
07-14-17, 04:26
The most beautiful girl I've ever swived in an FKK (probably) was a Colombian -- she looked like a supermodel and was very open minded in bed but also very feminine and 'innocent' at the same time. Will never forget her as long as I live. Martha!I am sure she was hot, but I am also pretty sure that she was a Romanian LOL.

BadinSweet
07-14-17, 07:05
Yes, I miss Martha too. I have traveled to South America and sampled a few Colombian but I still have not found anyone that look as good as her. Too bad I didn't keep in contact with people then.

Sybarite2006, something to remind you of the old days.

Martha Pics Post (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?1867-FKK-Palace-Frankfurt&p=1349062&viewfull=1#post1349062)

Hessen Bub
07-14-17, 07:15
Martha was a good looking girl, but for my taste there were dozens of better looking girls I had over the last 15 years. One of my top favorits re optics (and service) was a Brazilian girl from Sao Paulo in 2002 in Altenstadt, 170 cm, 20 years, perfect boobs, slim, beautiful face, just got into the business that time. The good old time. Long gone.

HB.

ExpatLover
07-14-17, 09:11
Martha was a good looking girl, but for my taste there were dozens of better looking girls I had over the last 15 years. One of my top favorits re optics (and service) was a Brazilian girl from Sao Paulo in 2002 in Altenstadt, 170 cm, 20 years, perfect boobs, slim, beautiful face, just got into the business that time. The good old time. Long gone.

HB.Yes just 15 years ago.

Mr Ho
07-14-17, 10:18
Martha was a good looking girl, but for my taste there were dozens of better looking girls I had over the last 15 years. One of my top favorits re optics (and service) was a Brazilian girl from Sao Paulo in 2002 in Altenstadt, 170 cm, 20 years, perfect boobs, slim, beautiful face, just got into the business that time. The good old time. Long gone.

HB.She must be 35 years old now, if she is still alive.

So the old time was better LU theory was accurate as you hardly mention how beautiful the girl is.

Sebastiane
07-14-17, 19:07
I am sure she was hot, but I am also pretty sure that she was a Romanian LOL.No she was definitely Colombian she showed me pictures of her in Colombia where she ran her own business and came to Germany annually (last I met her) to.

Make capital for it. And I used to have her private Colombian number and we texted each other until like an idiot I lost her number when I changed sims.

Yeah the good old days!

Be Wilder
07-15-17, 10:31
Would you guys recommend doing one of the FFK Tours? I like the idea of someone picking me up at the airport and driving me to the clubs. But I believe they are charging too much. I could rent a car and find them myself or take taxis. Any advice for a first time traveler.I echo the advice of others. Don't even contemplate doing a FKK Tour. The FKKs are completely legal, English is widely spoken and Germany and German cities are easy to navigate. Personally I take the train to get between clubs in different towns / cities and stay at budget hotels nearest to the station where the clubs are - the trains are cheap and efficient. You could even do a tour by train starting in Berlin and ending up in Frankfurt via Dusseldorf and Cologne though if it just the clubs that are the attraction, I would recommend concentrating on Frankfurt.

Mr Ho
07-15-17, 11:41
No she was definitely Colombian she showed me pictures of her in Colombia where she ran her own business and came to Germany annually (last I met her) to.

Make capital for it. And I used to have her private Colombian number and we texted each other until like an idiot I lost her number when I changed sims.

Yeah the good old days!Pro mongers have few that are engraved in our memories I got few that I cannot forget too.

I hope Palace service is still as it was after this July law change.

Or I am gone.

Pistons
07-18-17, 10:10
Has anyone spotted petite blonde Crina again? She was at Palace in December and is named Aylin on Globe website. Or petite brunette Nicole who was at Palace in May, and used to be at Wellcum before?

Be Wilder
07-22-17, 21:13
I like to aim for at least 2 FKK trips a year. One towards the beginning of summer and one towards the end. I already enjoyed my early summer jaunt in May but I had the chance to spend 3 days in Frankfurt last month and with the uncertainty surrounding the effect of the new laws (especially on bbjs) I decided to take full use of the opportunity. I spent 3 days - 1 at each of my favourite clubs.

I stayed in IBIS Styles in the City Centre having got the train to the HBF and then got the tram to Palace. It must have been 630 pm when I arrived and entry was E75. Throughout the night there must have been around 50 girls or so. Perhaps lower than usual but I understand Palace gets quieter during the summer months and it was a gorgeous day outside. The general quality was okay though I have seen it better. I had three sessions which consisted of:

Elena: A typical first session on a FKK tour for me. I head for who I consider to be the prettiest girl unless she gives a bad vibe and as good blondes are rare in Dubai, she is usually a young, blonde dollybird type. I also usually finish too early as I have too much stored energy. This was no different. Elena is Romanian and blessed with gorgeous looks and is also a pleasant girl in her early 20's. Good natural slim body. Nice blowjob and moved onto doing her missionary style which is how I like it if the girl has a really pretty face and that is how I finished. Would happily see her again and hope I have the opportunity to do so. E50.

Katerina: One of my favourite FKK girls across all clubs let alone Palace is Katerina. She is a slim, attractive blonde from Albania with short hair just past her shoulders and small natural tits. She often does a raunchy floor show and she is equally good in the room. She is good at judging the mood and is equally adept at GFE or PSE. She also kisses and allows RO as standard which is becoming rarer across all clubs though she holds back in threesomes. What I particularly like about her is she is straightforward and doesn't look to shortchange on time or quality of service and doesn't pressurise to upsell simply stating the extras the first time I met her (which are the standard FKK extras).

I was pleased to see her arrive at about 8 pm and although I was beginning to feel frisky, I decided to wait for her to get ready. She took an absolute age, perhaps an hour or so but was worth the wait. A good session. Lots of DFK, teasing foreplay, went down on her for an age but she stopped me when she was on the verge of reaching orgasm as she "wouldn't be in the mood to work afterwards", particular highlight was the blowjobs either side of DATY. First she went really slow and deep with lots of saliva to get it wet and the 2nd blowjob was much more suction and quicker. I finished doing her in doggy. It's always a delight with Katerina and I hope to see her again. E100.

Danielle and Mira: I do like at least one threesome every day in Frankfurt. I chose Danielle who is another old FKK favourite who I've been with twice in the past. She is a good looking brunette with a deep tan and huge fake tits. Claims to be from the Canary Islands and is another girl who provides good service. Asked her to choose a friend and she picked Mira who is a pretty, petite brunette. More natural looking with small to medium natural tits and long wavy brunette coloured hair.

The session was a good one and basically consisted of them taking turns sucking me off whilst the other either nuzzled on my chest or presented her tits for me to feast on. Finished with Danielle's second blow job and the session lasted 30 minutes. E100.

The 3 sessions consisted of a quickie with a dollybird, a longer GFE with an old favourite, and a threesome which seems to be my typical FKK day. Overall, a very enjoyable evening and I look forward to my next visit.

Mr Ho
07-23-17, 21:47
I like to aim for at least 2 FKK trips a year. One towards the beginning of summer and one towards the end. I already enjoyed my early summer jaunt in May but I had the chance to spend 3 days in Frankfurt last month and with the uncertainty surrounding the effect of the new laws (especially on bbjs) I decided to take full use of the opportunity. I spent 3 days - 1 at each of my favourite clubs.

I stayed in IBIS Styles in the City Centre having got the train to the HBF and then got the tram to Palace. It must have been 630 pm when I arrived and entry was E75. Throughout the night there must have been around 50 girls or so. Perhaps lower than usual but I understand Palace gets quieter during the summer months and it was a gorgeous day outside. The general quality was okay though I have seen it better. I had three sessions which consisted of:

Elena: A typical first session on a FKK tour for me. I head for who I consider to be the prettiest girl unless she gives a bad vibe and as good blondes are rare in Dubai, she is usually a young, blonde dollybird type. I also usually finish too early as I have too much stored energy. This was no different. Elena is Romanian and blessed with gorgeous looks and is also a pleasant girl in her early 20's. Good natural slim body. Nice blowjob and moved onto doing her missionary style which is how I like it if the girl has a really pretty face and that is how I finished. Would happily see her again and hope I have the opportunity to do so. E50..BBBJ or no BBBJ?

KC Questor
07-24-17, 05:28
BBBJ or no BBBJ?His report was from June, so it was probably BBBJ. But it doesn't matter much now.

Mr Ho
07-24-17, 06:11
His report was from June, so it was probably BBBJ. But it doesn't matter much now.Right, I am trying to figure out to go to palace for my next mongering trip or say good bye to palace and Hessen region due to no BBBJ or difficulty to get it. Then it is better off going to Zurich or Austria.

Be Wilder
07-24-17, 20:07
Right, I am trying to figure out to go to palace for my next mongering trip or say good bye to palace and Hessen region due to no BBBJ or difficulty to get it. Then it is better off going to Zurich or Austria.It was BBBJ all the way but as noted below, it was just before the new law was introduced. Quite deliberate timing on my part.

I will find myself in Germany in October on a business trip so will find out first hand if the law has changed the dynamics and services in FKK clubs first hand which will determine whether I make "leisure" tours in the future. But if you find out beforehand, I would appreciate a PM.

ExpatLover
07-24-17, 20:35
It was BBBJ all the way but as noted below, it was just before the new law was introduced. Quite deliberate timing on my part.

I will find myself in Germany in October on a business trip so will find out first hand if the law has changed the dynamics and services in FKK clubs first hand which will determine whether I make "leisure" tours in the future. But if you find out beforehand, I would appreciate a PM.It depends on the club, for example in World if you are not a regular customer of a girl most probably no BBBJ or CIM, in Shark everything as usual as in Oase. It is quite a surprise for me that the new law is taking effect so slowly, where is the legendary German efficiency?

DrPoon
07-25-17, 03:08
I don't understand why people bother with Frankfurt anyway. Seems like Dusseldorf and Cologne area is much better and better value for price.


It was BBBJ all the way but as noted below, it was just before the new law was introduced. Quite deliberate timing on my part.

I will find myself in Germany in October on a business trip so will find out first hand if the law has changed the dynamics and services in FKK clubs first hand which will determine whether I make "leisure" tours in the future. But if you find out beforehand, I would appreciate a PM.

Mr Ho
07-25-17, 06:26
It was BBBJ all the way but as noted below, it was just before the new law was introduced. Quite deliberate timing on my part.

I will find myself in Germany in October on a business trip so will find out first hand if the law has changed the dynamics and services in FKK clubs first hand which will determine whether I make "leisure" tours in the future. But if you find out beforehand, I would appreciate a PM.Well please do let me know as I am deciding whether to go to Hessen FKK in November or early December.

If BBBJ is not provided then I go to either NRW or other country like Austria or Zurich.

Pistons
07-25-17, 08:46
I don't understand why people bother with Frankfurt anyway. Seems like Dusseldorf and Cologne area is much better and better value for price.Probably because each club has its own draw. The girls are more varied if you visit a lot of different clubs, and the ambience is different. Sometimes 5 or 10 euros saved doesn't really matter compared to these other factors. And even Hessen clibs has lowered entry fees these days (I never pay more than 50 at Oase nowadays, and use the palace app or 5 for 6 card there. Or take advantage of the sharks discounts). 50 I am fine with for entrance. It gets worse when clubs try charging 80 like at Artemis and Austrian clubs. It all just depends on what people consider to be a reasonable price to pay. The willingness to pay factor. And I think many international guys consider the Hessen rates to be within this range. But if you visit many enough times a year or per trip, then I can see nrw edging out Hessen due to lower rates especially on entry. (Except for GT / LR). Personally for me the service differences are almost non existent between most clubs. Maybe I am different. Who knows? The right girl is what matters. You don't make love to a column in a building, or a hole in the floor.

ExpatLover
07-25-17, 18:01
Probably because each club has its own draw. The girls are more varied if you visit a lot of different clubs, and the ambience is different. Sometimes 5 or 10 euros saved doesn't really matter compared to these other factors. And even Hessen clibs has lowered entry fees these days (I never pay more than 50 at Oase nowadays, and use the palace app or 5 for 6 card there. Or take advantage of the sharks discounts). 50 I am fine with for entrance. It gets worse when clubs try charging 80 like at Artemis and Austrian clubs. It all just depends on what people consider to be a reasonable price to pay. The willingness to pay factor. And I think many international guys consider the Hessen rates to be within this range. But if you visit many enough times a year or per trip, then I can see nrw edging out Hessen due to lower rates especially on entry. (Except for GT / LR). Personally for me the service differences are almost non existent between most clubs. Maybe I am different. Who knows? The right girl is what matters. You don't make love to a column in a building, or a hole in the floor.You are right the service level is linked to the girl and chemistry but not to the club, what is linked to the club is the global feeling, the size / cleanness of the premises, and for me I feel better in the big Hessen one, just GT and Artemis are too expensive for me.

Escape Artist
07-25-17, 23:28
But if you visit many enough times a year or per trip, then I can see nrw edging out Hessen due to lower rates especially on entry. (Except for GT / LR)People who go "enough times a year" can just buy multi entry passes at Hessen clubs and that would reduce Sharks, Mainhattan, and Oase to same rate as most NRW clubs. Regardless, I still prefer NRW clubs since I hate when a WG closes the door as ask, "What do you want to do" or "How long do you want to stay. " I'm just thinking, let me put my dick in you first and then you can ask me in 15 minutes.

Pistons
07-27-17, 05:31
Nrw entry rates can still get lower even with the 45-50 e Hessen entries (around where it is with discount). Except maybe GT / LR.

Sedition
08-02-17, 00:29
Went today to palace.

The route to get there was super easy. I just took the U7 to industriehof and walked 5 minutes and I was at palace. As it was my first time at a FKK I was rather nervous. I walked in, took the tag that said I want to approach. Didn't really change anything, girls will choose to approach you regardless of what wristband color you have.

I got there around 5 but was surprised how empty it was. Many girls, many stunners but few guys. Girls blamed it being Tuesday and holidays.

As I wasted the past two days in my hotel working and not actually doing anything I really wanted to make the most of this visit.

I started off sitting around trying to take my time though girls kept approaching. I was so nervous but then decided to go for a really attractive German girl Stella. She had great tits and a great ass and I tried negotiating outside but she wanted to push for inside the room.

She was a great session, great body, tall, blonde, and got into it but I popped off pretty quickly.

Still good session, I paid 50 euro for a pop, with CBJ and sex. It was frustrating to hear CBJ seemed pretty firm. I asked even for longer session but She literally told me it was illegal with 50 k $ fine.

In general I think me being foreign clearly made me seem like an outsider but unsure if anybody else's luck would be different. Every girl I met did CBJ.

Second girl had similar hot body and was Russian German named Chiara. Same thing, wasn't as quick of a pop this time and really got into the session. After several position changes she seemed to be annoyed I hadn't cum yet so I finished in doggy. Blowjob was good. I was surprised in general how some of these girls could so easily turn me on and get me close just doing subtle things like licking / biting my nipples or scratching my shaft / balls with their nails. Very pro I thought.

From here quality varied more. I went for a similar German girl named Cailie. Similar session as previous and I noticed a pattern where most of the girls didn't seem used to guys that could hold on and go at it for a while.

Went for a girl after this who seemed Romanian? Black hair, Patricia, was the name. She did an upsell that seemed interesting to me of 100 $ for RO, FK, and titty fuck with finish on body. She had really good service in general and was a good fuck but I was so sensitive I had to jerk it to finish.

At this point I had been taking my time and breaks between each firmly telling girls no or I'm resting or maybe later.

Later went with a Czech girl named Gina also blonde and huge tits to the point they didn't seem real. She was interesting but nothing special.

I was getting close to calling it a day. I just wanted to fuck this one chick I'd seen earlier but an old guy nabbed her before me.

I stuck around and waited a while for her to free up but I think I waited almost an hour before I thought she went home. I saw this blonde girl who seemed hot and had been walking around for a while trying to get guys. Her name was Denise, I went to the room and fucked her and eventually managed to pull off a sixth time. At this point I should've called it quits or I should've told her no and waited more.

Cue the girl I'd been waiting for on the floor st this point when I come out of shower. I was frustrated because I really wanted to get her but I knew my dick wasn't really feeling it and it would be pushing it. Especially since I just had sex ten minutes ago. I should've waited another 30 minutes at the least.

I went with the girl, her name was Rosalee, she was half Romanian half Greek and super hot. Unlike all the other blondes she had hair with interesting curls rather than lire straight hair. She was so great as a session but I just couldn't get my sick hard. I'd even taken her upsell of 200 euros for anal and GFE which I could barely enjoy due to this being the sixth hour of sex and girl. Umber seven / shot number 7. First time anal too which I regret not being able to enjoy more as my dick was too soft.

I jerked myself off at the end after she tried pussy sex and blowjobs to make it better.

Overall I spent 2 euros for train there and back. 75 entry .5 girls at 50 euros. One girl at 100. One girl at 200. Total 625 euros but was good overall.

Overall palace was good. Food was good. Service for drinks and towels and etc was good. Girls were a bit pushy but you just need some confidence. Constant upsell was annoying (even FK wasn't included, needed extras to get it which is disappointing). The upsell attitude sucks but I was still satisfied fucking a ton of stunners for 50 euros. No BBBJ is also frustrating I guess but I've never had it so I don't know what I'm missing.

Interestingly I found out fucking this many girls was apparently uncommon and my dick was apparently too big to do anal with many girls (their words).

Off to sharks tomorrow hopefully with a dude I met at palace today to make it more fun / less dull. Hope sharks Wednesday lineup is as good. I've got 600:700 euros lined up for some good service and hopefully some great extras.

Mr Ho
08-02-17, 03:19
Went today to palace.

The route to get there was super easy. I just took the U7 to industriehof and walked 5 minutes and I was at palace. As it was my first time at a FKK I was rather nervous. I walked in, took the tag that said I want to approach. Didn't really change anything, girls will choose to approach you regardless of what wristband color you have.

I got there around 5 but was surprised how empty it was. Many girls, many stunners but few guys. Girls blamed it being Tuesday and holidays.

As I wasted the past two days in my hotel working and not actually doing anything I really wanted to make the most of this visit.

I started off sitting around trying to take my time though girls kept approaching. I was so nervous but then decided to go for a really attractive German girl Stella. She had great tits and a great ass and I tried negotiating outside but she wanted to push for inside the room.

She was a great session, great body, tall, blonde, and got into it but I popped off pretty quickly.

Still good session, I paid 50 euro for a pop, with CBJ and sex. It was frustrating to hear CBJ seemed pretty firm. I asked even for longer session but She literally told me it was illegal with 50 k $ fine.

In general I think me being foreign clearly made me seem like an outsider but unsure if anybody else's luck would be different. Every girl I met did CBJ.

Second girl had similar hot body and was Russian German named Chiara. Same thing, wasn't as quick of a pop this time and really got into the session. After several position changes she seemed to be annoyed I hadn't cum yet so I finished in doggy. Blowjob was good. I was surprised in general how some of these girls could so easily turn me on and get me close just doing subtle things like licking / biting my nipples or scratching my shaft / balls with their nails. Very pro I thought..So at Palace, CBJ is the only choice now even you go for longer session?

If CBJ is set at Palace, I ain't going there anymore, so can you confirm this?

ExpatLover
08-02-17, 04:33
Went today to palace.

The route to get there was super easy. I just took the U7 to industriehof and walked 5 minutes and I was at palace. As it was my first time at a FKK I was rather nervous. I walked in, took the tag that said I want to approach. Didn't really change anything, girls will choose to approach you regardless of what wristband color you have.

I got there around 5 but was surprised how empty it was. Many girls, many stunners but few guys. Girls blamed it being Tuesday and holidays.

As I wasted the past two days in my hotel working and not actually doing anything I really wanted to make the most of this visit.

I started off sitting around trying to take my time though girls kept approaching. I was so nervous but then decided to go for a really attractive German girl Stella. She had great tits and a great ass and I tried negotiating outside but she wanted to push for inside the room.

She was a great session, great body, tall, blonde, and got into it but I popped off pretty quickly.

Still good session, I paid 50 euro for a pop, with CBJ and sex. It was frustrating to hear CBJ seemed pretty firm. I asked even for longer session but She literally told me it was illegal with 50 k $ fine..Thanks for the report, still the question remains between quality and quantity and also is it really interesting / useful to session so may girls the same day?

Member #4585
08-02-17, 08:38
Sedition, thank you for the great report. Good writing.

Useful information is the enforcement of CBJ by the girls themselves rather than by the club. The girls are standing their ground on the CBJ issue.

Sedition
08-02-17, 11:43
Sedition, thank you for the great report. Good writing.

Useful information is the enforcement of CBJ by the girls themselves rather than by the club. The girls are standing their ground on the CBJ issue.Not 100% clear as the first girl who mentioned it was clearly illegal even pointed to a plaque in the room which mentioned the law. It's possible the club took a stance of, if you're caught we will pass the 50 k $ fine on to the girl itself which may influence the girl. But yes it seems girls are enforcing it themselves. Will report on sharks later today. UKP someone mentioned they went yesterday and hour long sessions had BBBJ so hoping it's different there.

Mr Ho
08-02-17, 12:36
Not 100% clear as the first girl who mentioned it was clearly illegal even pointed to a plaque in the room which mentioned the law. It's possible the club took a stance of, if you're caught we will pass the 50 k $ fine on to the girl itself which may influence the girl. But yes it seems girls are enforcing it themselves. Will report on sharks later today. UKP someone mentioned they went yesterday and hour long sessions had BBBJ so hoping it's different there.So it is FKK Palace to CBJ Palace. Good bye, so long then.

Member #4585
08-02-17, 13:32
Not 100% clear as the first girl who mentioned it was clearly illegal even pointed to a plaque in the room which mentioned the law. It's possible the club took a stance of, if you're caught we will pass the 50 k $ fine on to the girl itself which may influence the girl. But yes it seems girls are enforcing it themselves. Will report on sharks later today. UKP someone mentioned they went yesterday and hour long sessions had BBBJ so hoping it's different there.Let us know how you go. Girls say they do a two tier system at Sharks. If you are German or known then its one style for 50 and if you are non German or not known then its another style for 50. It pays to know some Germans or act like a German. Even the non ethnic Germans can play the card of being German due to the expats from Africa come to support the German economy as it lacks workers.

My experience is not a single girl even mentioned the restriction known or unknown to them. Palace is a tough nut to crack.

Danny227
08-02-17, 14:27
Stella around?

Member #4585
08-02-17, 20:52
Stella around?Yes. Stella is around.

Danny227
08-02-17, 21:58
Yes. Stella is around.They are quoting Stella de in the LU at sharks in lustcout. Is it possible she is back in Sharks?

Sedition
08-03-17, 01:57
I would agree on the me being clearly foreign outing me and likely changing what service I got. I'm pretty sure I should've acted like I've been here before but I figured I'd give it a normal shot and see. I do agree and expect most girls may treat Germans differently.

Also yes Stella was there. Fucking incredible, she was first session though so I finished fast. Couldn't find her later but now I regret not extending and savoring it. Super nice girl, and incredibly body.

Member #4585
08-03-17, 07:55
They are quoting Stella de in the LU at sharks in lustcout. Is it possible she is back in Sharks?Sedition in his report below did Stella at Palace and Stella has not been seen by me in Sharks any time through my visits in July.

ExpatLover
08-03-17, 10:00
They are quoting Stella de in the LU at sharks in lustcout. Is it possible she is back in Sharks?May be don't over focus on 1 or another girl, yesterday at Shark there were so many girls even no free locker for them, so just go and choose the girls you like don t focus on name and reports of the others, everyone is different and chemistry between people is the key for a great time.

Member #4585
08-03-17, 23:41
So it is FKK Palace to CBJ Palace. Good bye, so long then.Yes, agreed. Write Palace off the visit schedule. Go to Switzerland or Austria or the Netherlands.

Mr Ho
08-04-17, 04:19
Yes, agreed. Write Palace off the visit schedule. Go to Switzerland or Austria or the Netherlands.Plus with all the up sell in Hessen FKK, Globe Zurich pricing is getting into similar price range with no hassle to negotiation.

I will miss Germany, so I may or may not try it once more myself to see if the situation really changed, then it gives me no choice but to change country for FKK.

Sirioja
08-04-17, 05:05
They are quoting Stella de in the LU at sharks in lustcout. Is it possible she is back in Sharks?Didn't see Stella. De Palace on Monday at Sharks.

Sirioja
08-04-17, 05:12
Plus with all the up sell in Hessen FKK, Globe Zurich pricing is getting into similar price range with no hassle to negotiation.

I will miss Germany, so I may or may not try it once more myself to see if the situation really changed, then it gives me no choice but to change country for FKK.Maybe I'm the luckiest guy, girls want to please me, but no new law problems experienced or heard at Sharks with all girls I know pretty well, with no upselling. Same in NRW. Also don t seem at Oase, but upselling already existed.

ExpatLover
08-04-17, 07:30
So it is FKK Palace to CBJ Palace. Good bye, so long then.CBJ is the standard now, and all the girls I now will put the condom except she knows you, she believes you are clean (what is from far not always the case), you are paying extra if proposed, for many girls BBBJ was the most difficult part of the job including kissing.

Member #4585
08-04-17, 08:04
Plus with all the up sell in Hessen FKK, Globe Zurich pricing is getting into similar price range with no hassle to negotiation.

I will miss Germany, so I may or may not try it once more myself to see if the situation really changed, then it gives me no choice but to change country for FKK.One regular of Palace that I know who has been visiting Palace for at least 11 years says he got covered blow job from a Romanian girl. There was no negotiation or discussion. It was CBJ or no way.

He is such a regular of Palace he constantly uses up the discount entry cards he prepays.

Please do go to Palace and let us know how you fare.

ZimmerSchatz
08-04-17, 12:36
One regular of Palace that I know who has been visiting Palace for at least 11 years says he got covered blow job from a Romanian girl. There was no negotiation or discussion. It was CBJ or no way.

He is such a regular of Palace he constantly uses up the discount entry cards he prepays.

Please do go to Palace and let us know how you fare.A friend was in Palace last week. He is a regular visitor. He gets BBBJ in 4 of 6 rooms and only from girls who know him.

Mr Ho
08-04-17, 21:25
I may most likely get BBBJ from girls that I have been in room with before, but with new girls depend? Well that would fuck up the whole day so for me it is better not to take a risk going there if it is CBJ palace.

I will move on I think or try it out one more time and then if I face CBJ situation where even longer session won't provide BBBJ then I move on to different region or the country.

Berlin namely Artemis and Hessen namely palace seems to turned into some CBJ reported club, so for me is to avoid.

Mr Ho
08-04-17, 21:31
One regular of Palace that I know who has been visiting Palace for at least 11 years says he got covered blow job from a Romanian girl. There was no negotiation or discussion. It was CBJ or no way.

He is such a regular of Palace he constantly uses up the discount entry cards he prepays.

Please do go to Palace and let us know how you fare.Well if that is the case, then I will only go for 50 euro 30 min session.

Member #4585
08-04-17, 22:08
A friend was in Palace last week. He is a regular visitor. He gets BBBJ in 4 of 6 rooms and only from girls who know him.Over time there will be more girls who only know the norm as CBJ.

He has luck to get BBBJ from his known girls.

UltraHappy
08-04-17, 22:55
I may most likely get BBBJ from girls that I have been in room with before, but with new girls depend? Well that would fuck up the whole day so for me it is better not to take a risk going there if it is CBJ palace.

I will move on I think or try it out one more time and then if I face CBJ situation where even longer session won't provide BBBJ then I move on to different region or the country.
Mr. Ho, you've been posting for months and months now about your fears of not getting quality BJs. Why don't you actually visit the clubs yourself and see what your luck actually is instead of posting your fears here over and over, again and again, ad nauseum?

It will be much more interesting to hear about your actual experiences, rather than your anticipated-maybe-perhaps-possible fears / suspicions.

Mr Ho
08-05-17, 01:01
Mr. Ho, you've been posting for months and months now about your fears of not getting quality BJs. Why don't you actually visit the clubs yourself and see what your luck actually is instead of posting your fears here over and over, again and again, ad nauseum?

It will be much more interesting to hear about your actual experiences, rather than your anticipated-maybe-perhaps-possible fears / suspicions.I went in June, so my usually next trip would be September, but as I wrote before, I will delay it to sometime in late autumn or before Christmas as I want to see how the law affected the service.

I am successful in life because I do risk analysis before I do things and if there is too much risk, I will already change to Zurich or Austria, the thing is I would like to stick to Germany if I can, so!

Rogue Nation
08-05-17, 19:28
Over time there will be more girls who only know the norm as CBJ.That's a daring thesis.

DrPoon
08-06-17, 06:37
Maybe Germany can work out a fine deal. Pay the 50,000 fine on a miles earning credit card to get 50,000 airline miles.


Mr. Ho, you've been posting for months and months now about your fears of not getting quality BJs. Why don't you actually visit the clubs yourself and see what your luck actually is instead of posting your fears here over and over, again and again, ad nauseum?

It will be much more interesting to hear about your actual experiences, rather than your anticipated-maybe-perhaps-possible fears / suspicions.

Member #4585
08-06-17, 11:32
That's a daring thesis.I know. There is even a supposed law banning BBBJ too. Who would have thought that would happen!!

Rogue Nation
08-06-17, 11:53
I know. There is even a supposed law banning BBBJ too. Who would have thought that would happen!!Haven't yet me a girl who cared about BBBJ ban. Majority didn't even know about it.

Member #4585
08-06-17, 19:39
Haven't yet me a girl who cared about BBBJ ban. Majority didn't even know about it.Good for you.

Regardless, your experiences is cold comfort for the guys reporting getting only covered blow job.

Hessen Bub
08-06-17, 20:18
Good for you.

Regardless, your experiences is cold comfort for the guys reporting getting only covered blow job.Every report is a personal experience. YMMV. You are relying on a guy who "heard from a friend".

Sirioja
08-09-17, 06:12
They are quoting Stella de in the LU at sharks in lustcout. Is it possible she is back in Sharks?Blond tattoed MILF not kissing Stella. De at Palace, but new small brunette, short hair, tattoed, kissing Stella. De at Sharks.

Hobbiest1
08-17-17, 05:59
I am headed there this weekend and staying at the airport in Frankfurt. What's the best way to get there by train?

Optimist
08-17-17, 09:41
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Yvn2MgqG1JI

If you search the Internet you get loads of answers.

www.bahn.de also will answer all questions.(go to menu, then sprachauswahl and choose english)

BigBuddy69
08-17-17, 10:14
Google maps works good too.

Hobbiest1
08-17-17, 14:58
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Yvn2MgqG1JI

If you search the Internet you get loads of answers.

www.bahn.de also will answer all questions.(go to menu, then sprachauswahl and choose english)Thank you very much!

Horny Cock
08-31-17, 00:51
Hi, may I know how much is the going rate nowadays at the club? Thanks.

KC Questor
08-31-17, 04:05
Hi, may I know how much is the going rate nowadays at the club? Thanks.Other than at Dietzenbach, all the FKK clubs are 50€ for 30 minutes. No discount for an hour, but many girls promise more access during an hour -- DFK, DATY, GFE. Additional charges for anal or CIM, if available.

Mr Ho
08-31-17, 11:33
Hi, may I know how much is the going rate nowadays at the club? Thanks.Much more than standard rate at Palace LOL.

Citizen Kane
08-31-17, 16:34
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/08/31/frankfurt-blockbuster-bomb-ww2-device-forces-evacuation-60000/

BadinSweet
08-31-17, 21:05
I was curious if the location of the bomb is closed to Palace. But looks like it's over 3 km away. So, no luck seeing the girls being evacuated from the club naked.

https://www.google.com/maps/dir/The+Palace+-+Saunaclub,+K%C3%B6nigsberger+Str.+23,+60487+Frankfurt+am+Main,+Germany/50.129871,8.66733/@50.1294895,8.6425663,15.14z/data=!4m10!4m9!1m5!1m1!1s0x47bd0973878f1e29:0xb5918f94a388ab55!2m2!1d8.6266668!2d50.1278874!1m0!3e2!4e1

XXL
09-02-17, 15:28
Just back from Palace. LU scarce and unimpressive but hardly any males. Had two 30-minute 100-Euro sessions with 100-Euro girl Dominican Alicia. Perfect face, perfect body. Alicia is no struggling girl for sure. Was in Vegas and Miami on duty travel. The opposite of the poor trafficked exploited girl. If any exploiting takes place Alicia is the one doing it.

Rogue Nation
09-02-17, 15:47
That's Alice? DomRep, beautiful face, full lips, fun to talk to, big natural breasts, a tattoo or two hardly recognizable due to the dark skin?

HB.

ExpatLover
09-02-17, 20:27
Just back from Palace. LU scarce and unimpressive but hardly any males. Had two 30-minute 100-Euro sessions with 100-Euro girl Dominican Alicia. Perfect face, perfect body. Alicia is no struggling girl for sure. Was in Vegas and Miami on duty travel. The opposite of the poor trafficked exploited girl. If any exploiting takes place Alicia is the one doing it.Who experienced monger will visit this club, my answer is 0, this is just a tourist trap, or a messe trap.

ExpatLover
09-02-17, 21:09
I was curious if the location of the bomb is closed to Palace. But looks like it's over 3 km away. So, no luck seeing the girls being evacuated from the club naked.

https://www.google.com/maps/dir/The+Palace+-+Saunaclub,+K%C3%B6nigsberger+Str.+23,+60487+Frankfurt+am+Main,+Germany/50.129871,8.66733/@50.1294895,8.6425663,15.14z/data=!4m10!4m9!1m5!1m1!1s0x47bd0973878f1e29:0xb5918f94a388ab55!2m2!1d8.6266668!2d50.1278874!1m0!3e2!4e1I don't care it is 5 years that I was not visiting this club, the club doesn't care about a VIP customer and I am very happy not to be any more a customer of this club when I follow what many German guys are writing about how down this place is going, it is the place to go if you really need to fuck or you die, otherwise just visit another club.

XXL
09-02-17, 21:36
That's Alice? DomRep, beautiful face, full lips, fun to talk to, big natural breasts, a tattoo or two hardly recognizable due to the dark skin?

HB.That's the one. My main reason for visiting Palace. Rare combination of beautiful face and gorgeous body. Some plastic surgery but not too conspicuous.

Alicia went on about some FKK Phoenix in Stuttgart. No idea there was such a place.

Jmioffe
09-03-17, 05:34
Been to Palace a few times now, it's back near the tops for me, especially for the girls.

Yeah, it's still quite sharky and there are signs in the locker room about the condom law now, talking about the 50 kE penalty (I think-- my German is poor).

But I've found some gems and new favorites there. I've said in the past that Palace seemed less sex touristy than Sharks -- which admittedly has risen in my estimation and was close to becoming my new favorite -- and I think I've put my finger on it.

At Sharks, the clientele is generally conventionally undesirable -- old men, ethnic men, Asians, Turks, fat men. It surprises me when I see the conventionally desirable man at Sharks.

At Palace, those conventionally undesirable types are there, but so are the young businessmen tasking as break from work, the visiting conventioneer, it feels less odd to me. Of course, your U.S. strip club may also include more of these conventionally desirable types, but it doesn't mean they're better, and the value is undoubtedly worse.

So, if you disagree, please don't take offense!

I think this shows even in the business practices. Palace's main discount is a "two-hour special" but Sharks and Oase, being further out from the city center, has specials designed more to keep the guys that stay out there all day, with discounted tickets on some days, early entry for others.

Another Palace advantage for me, is that I've met some interesting short-timers there, girls who have lives outside of the club, for whom the club is not as big as part of their lives. They're fun to talk to, and are much more ymmv in their bedroom practices.

That said, I'm planning to go back soon -- I really should install that app! -- and would like feedback on some of these gases that have piqued my interest. More in the TR department to come.

Jessie -- Albanian, full body back tattoo, blonde-red hair.

Melissa -- skinny, one of the few girlish body types at Palace, very red shoulder length hair. claims Italy.

Yana -- curvy, light brunette, been there for awhile.

Natasha. Pretty, long red hair, similar look to Jessie, claims Moldova.

Irina (?)-- Russian, looks as bit like a skinny Yana -- I had considered as duo with her and Natasha but sensed it would be dangerous.

Alice (?) -- Cuban, African descent, skinny, long straight hair.

Juliette -- Spanish, square-ish face, skinny.

Ashley -- Full figured, short blonde hair, claims Romania and Italy.

Roxanna -- Blonde, Russian, longtimer.

Alas, the German regulars I was so fond of seem to be less of as presence nowadays -- no Chiara, Stella, Lulu, Jasmine, Chantel.

ExpatLover
09-03-17, 06:27
Been to Palace a few times now, it's back near the tops for me, especially for the girls.

Yeah, it's still quite sharky and there are signs in the locker room about the condom law now, talking about the 50 kE penalty (I think-- my German is poor).

But I've found some gems and new favorites there. I've said in the past that Palace seemed less sex touristy than Sharks -- which admittedly has risen in my estimation and was close to becoming my new favorite -- and I think I've put my finger on it.

At Sharks, the clientele is generally conventionally undesirable -- old men, ethnic men, Asians, Turks, fat men. It surprises me when I see the conventionally desirable man at Sharks.

At Palace, those conventionally undesirable types are there, but so are the young businessmen tasking as break from work, the visiting conventioneer, it feels less odd to me. Of course, your U.S. strip club may also include more of these conventionally desirable types, but it doesn't mean they're better, and the value is undoubtedly worse..What is your problem with the old fat man, I am 62,183 high 78 kilos and able to bike 120 km a day. Are you aware that many girls prefer the old one in the club just because it is far less stressing for them and also it makes a bit#g split between the work and the private life when they meet young guys. I know really top girls in the clubs who will never go with a 30 year old guy. The girls don't care about the outlook of the guy, first priority is the guy must be clean, no smell and also behave like a gentleman and paying good it is far enough to please them.

The Cane
09-03-17, 07:28
At Sharks, the clientele is generally conventionally undesirable -- old men, ethnic men, Asians, Turks, fat men. It surprises me when I see the conventionally desirable man at Sharks.At Palace, those conventionally undesirable types are there, but so are the young businessmen tasking as break from work, the visiting conventioneer, it feels less odd to me.Apparently there were some there with conventionally undesirable attitudes too.

KevinSt
09-03-17, 16:01
Been to Palace a few times now, it's back near the tops for me, especially for the girls.Hi guys,

How many girls on average in Palace these days? I'm planing to visit on the next Tuesday.

I've heard that in Oase it could be up to a hundred, but in Palace maybe 40 or even less. Any estimations?

And one more thing. I couldn't find any rating of the FKK on the forum. Although it would be nice to hear the opinions. So far, it seems to me like Oase is the best, Palace has the second place and Mainhattan ends the first three. But also there are Coconut, Bahama, Darling, Dietzenbach, not mentioning Sharks, which is not really in Frankfurt though.

Any opinions are greatly appreciated!

KC Questor
09-03-17, 17:11
At Sharks, the clientele is generally conventionally undesirable -- old men, ethnic men, Asians, Turks, fat men. It surprises me when I see the conventionally desirable man at Sharks.

At Palace, those conventionally undesirable types are there, but so are the young businessmen tasking as break from work, the visiting conventioneer, it feels less odd to me. Of course, your U.S. strip club may also include more of these conventionally desirable types, but it doesn't mean they're better, and the value is undoubtedly worse.Good to know. If I ever need to find the FKK with the hottest guys, I'll know where to go.

Jmioffe
09-03-17, 19:51
Good to know. If I ever need to find the FKK with the hottest guys, I'll know where to go.Hah, I guess I deserve this. Touche.

MarquisdeSade1
09-03-17, 20:12
Hah, I guess I deserve this. Touche.That what you were saying?

Was a more attractive customer base has a direct effect on the quality of the WG pool.

Case in point.

I goto an amazing club in the us, during the day its mostly businessmen, sneaking away from work.

The best talent of WGs are there during that time, 11 am to 6 pm.

At night after 10 pm-4 am the place gets packed with young immigrants, mostly from India and the middle east.

The quality of the WGs plummets thru the floor, its horrible.

I would not session with them for free.

In some cases correlation does certainly equal causation!

My 1st visit to the club years ago.

I asked my fav WG.

If I could ever come in at night to see her.

She said never.

The boss tried to put her on the night schedule and she told her if she made her work at night.

She quit, and it was never discussed again!

Turgid
09-05-17, 16:05
That what you were saying?

Was a more attractive customer base has a direct effect on the quality of the WG pool.

Case in point.

I goto an amazing club in the us, during the day its mostly businessmen, sneaking away from work.

The best talent of WGs are there during that time, 11 am to 6 pm.

At night after 10 pm-4 am the place gets packed with young immigrants, mostly from India and the middle east.

The quality of the WGs plummets thru the floor, its horrible.

I would not session with them for free.

In some cases correlation does certainly equal causation!

My 1st visit to the club years ago.

I asked my fav WG.

If I could ever come in at night to see her.

She said never.

The boss tried to put her on the night schedule and she told her if she made her work at night.

She quit, and it was never discussed again!I know exactly what you are talking about. Was chatting with a hot WG once and she told me that the cash given to her by old and 'ethnic' men was usually wrinkled and greesy and she did not like it and would refuse it; she much preferred the new and crisp bills offered to her by the 'conventional' punters.

Pistons
09-05-17, 22:25
You are somewhat right in regards to this. But a club that rates even below sharks for male customers among some girls are Goldentime. Then again there are some girls who doesn't mind the pensioners at Goldentime. So not all the girls care about the same. Some girls like the younger clientele at Oceans, while some hunt for the Asians and seek out the clubs with the highest number of Asians. Some flee the Italian border clubs even though the rate there is higher than in Germany. Because some Italians are known for stalking. But the business men hunters do seem to me to be the less happy ones. They hardly smile for some reason. I don't know what makes them unhappy. Perhaps the uninteresting yet stiff appearance of the banker types. It is a give or take, and not everyone have the same metrics too.

Takedown
09-05-17, 23:56
At Sharks, the clientele is generally conventionally undesirable -- old men, ethnic men, Asians, Turks, fat men. It surprises me when I see the conventionally desirable man at Sharks.

Glad you find non-white people undesirable. Glad ISG admins condone blatantly racist posts also.

BHawk
09-06-17, 00:04
That's the one. My main reason for visiting Palace. Rare combination of beautiful face and gorgeous body. Some plastic surgery but not too conspicuous.

Alicia went on about some FKK Phoenix in Stuttgart. No idea there was such a place.Ah, Alice. Need to see her again. Any clue on her schedule? Which days and time of day?

ExpatLover
09-06-17, 08:12
Ah, Alice. Need to see her again. Any clue on her schedule? Which days and time of day?Just call the club they will give you the correct info.

Jmioffe
09-07-17, 01:12
I will write more later, but I just wanted to say I definitely did not mean this to be racist, and I'm sorry to have implied that. I actually belong to as few of these categories myself.

I wrote "conventionally attractive" because I am squarely aware of my sexual market value -- and I know the premiums for certain attributes and penalties for others. No offence intended.


Glad you find non-white people undesirable. Glad ISG admins condone blatantly racist posts also.

XXL
09-07-17, 06:47
Ah, Alice. Need to see her again. Any clue on her schedule? Which days and time of day?She hinted she would be there during the Motor Show.

Incognito2001
09-07-17, 08:09
Hello,

I am going to hit Palace right after its Opening Time to kill a couple of hours (a layover) on SAT.

Would anyone let me know what the situations are like, let's say, around 12 AM? I know things are very slow around noon, but I hope there will be at least some girls when I show up. Is it a total waste of my time to go there or should I try SHARKS which is not also too far away from the airport?

Thank you very much!

Florida Sun
09-07-17, 10:34
I actually belong to as few of these categories myself.We can't overlook the girls interest in the subject. Like it was said, some will be attracted and other will be turned off by where you are from. The main factor however is purely financial, girls in the most part like easy money, and lots of it if they can get their hand on it. Other than financial and easy money, cleanliness is a consideration as some guys don't have the sense of freshening up before and in between sessions. I would also think that certain cultures have aggressive attitude towards women who sell sex and would help them selves liberally creating an uncomfortable situations. If such broad strokes covers the majority of a certain nationality or ethnicity, I would think that would create an appropriate hesitation for the girls preferences.

I don't think this will impact anyone who's not partaking in offensive behavior, I found that if you are laid back enough you will be considered on your own merits. I remember one girl that was aggressive towards me because I turned her down and she started to say racist comments, I simply walked away and didn't waist anymore time to acknowledge her any further. She tried to get girls to boycott me, but that didn't last long as they can observe for themselves that was only their loss.

We can also see some girls that will stick to German clients only, and some clubs have door policy restricting certain ethnicities, with FKK being such an international phenomena, I would think there is plenty of clubs and girls within each club to enjoy and have a good time with, even for the stinkiest asshole as long as they don't get kicked out for being way out in left field.

Jimmy Boy 99
09-07-17, 15:39
Glad you find non-white people undesirable. Glad ISG admins condone blatantly racist posts also.Take it easy with the racist labeling. He also included fat white men and old white men as undesirable. Do you really think that the women in the clubs (except for those that specialize in quick sessions and fleecing their customers) would not prefer to fuck a fit, not old professional man of their own ethnicity and culture who have modern attitudes towards women rather than those listed as undesirable if they could make enough money doing so?

The Cane
09-07-17, 17:45
Take it easy with the racist labeling. He also included fat white men and old white men as undesirable.He actually never used the word "white" at all. But, he did use "ethnic" as undesirable, which would mean that "non-ethnic" would be desirable. By the way, when you break it all down, everybody belongs to an ethnicity! And many, many, many women fuck outside of their ethnicity no problems. I know this hehehe!

DaWong949
09-07-17, 20:48
Hello,

I am going to hit Palace right after its Opening Time to kill a couple of hours (a layover) on SAT.

Would anyone let me know what the situations are like, let's say, around 12 AM? I know things are very slow around noon, but I hope there will be at least some girls when I show up. Is it a total waste of my time to go there or should I try SHARKS which is not also too far away from the airport?

Thank you very much!I believed that you would be there around noon which is 12 pm then, right. 12 am will be midnight. Anyway, at noon, non of those two places will have a lot of girls. I will try Shark if I were you. Have fun.