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Member #4636
11-13-18, 21:55
Anyone know which German girls are currently in house?There is one I think but I don't know her name. I once talked to her, blonde she has a face like an angel and a voice like a baby, did not go to room with her. Or maybe I did but I don't remember LOL.
Member #4636
11-13-18, 22:02
I really liked having sex with blonde, Czech Gina (first FKK girl I ever went with). Until she went and had all of that "plastic monster" surgery that is! Another I liked a lot was Ukrainian (so she says) Daniela. Total PSE, dirty mouth, and loves it in the ass. That is, until she went and gained too much weight! Well, it looks like she has lost a lot lately. Gina was also as thin as a rail the last time I saw her. Lost weight, but too much! Much preferred it when she had a plump, round, "white onion" with a beautiful, bright pink butt hole between her alabaster ass cheeks.This Daniela sounds interesting. Plastic monster and ink tattoos I hate them. OK a small tattoo can be fine or on the back is OK but when these ladies cover all their legs of their breast with tattoos they just look weird to me. I love natural beauty. Talking about weight I have seen a couple of over weighted lately. As I say palace has either 2-3 stunners or under average girls. If someone wants just average Mainhattan is better.
Anyone know which German girls are currently in house?Currently I don't know, but past few visit throughout years, I always spotted jenny the blonde German as fixed German girl to be there. Get ready for extreme upsell though LOL.
Member #4636
11-14-18, 06:46
Currently I don't know, but past few visit throughout years, I always spotted jenny the blonde German as fixed German girl to be there. Get ready for extreme upsell though LOL.Mr Ho regarding upsell in Palace I must say that I have met a couple of girls that provide really great service for 100-150 max. I cannot tell you about 50/30 because I have never given that amount to a lady. I have done 100/ hour in example which included BBBJ, DATY, GFE and CIM and of course fuck. So in that case the VFM was high not only for the services but for the quality of the services. Lets say around 9 for me. But I have also paid much more for much worst service so in that case the VFM was around 2-3. So Palace regarding upsell is just like the look of the girls. You cannot find average VFM money it will be either very good or bad. Up or down.
Another thing I notice is that there is a lot of variety in the quality of the service. Some girls don't know how to touch a dick, how to take a blow job and what to do to turn on a man. Some others are fantastic and they react great when you touch them or lick them. Also some pretend good, some pretend bad and some just relax and enjoy. The most important for a man in these clubs is not to be a fool.
Anyone know which German girls are currently in house?I don't know the German women by name. Last Friday I remember one with dark curly hair wearing classes and very frriendly and open-minded in the restaurant area. There was also a blonde German woman with a special tattoo on her back along the spine showing some rather big letters from the neck down to her waist.
Member #4636
11-15-18, 08:46
There was also a blonde German woman with a special tattoo on her back along the spine showing some rather big letters from the neck down to her waist.That looks like Isabelle from Italy, are you sure she was German? I saw her the same day as you that's why I am telling.
That looks like Isabelle from Italy, are you sure she was German? I saw her the same day as you that's why I am telling.A pity we didn't meet each other by chance. Speaking Italian I'm always a little bit more careful when a girl tries to make me believe being from Italy. And as this woman I mentioned was in talks with two I suppose regular German guys I didn't imagine her to be Italian. There was another woman, rather tall and always hanging around in the cinema, Mia, with whom I got a really nice chat and who also pretended being Italian with origin from Bologna. But her ex-husband is Romanian.
That looks like Isabelle from Italy, are you sure she was German? I saw her the same day as you that's why I am telling.A pity we didn't meet each other by chance. Speaking Italian I'm always a little bit more careful when a girl tries to make me believe being from Italy. And as this woman I mentioned was in talks with two I suppose regular German guys I didn't imagine her to be Italian. There was another woman, rather tall and always hanging around in the cinema, Mia, with whom I got a really nice chat and who also pretended being Italian with origin from Bologna. But her ex-husband is Romanian. I felt quite well with her but the smell coming up from her throat - this mixture of smoke and whatever else - disgusting.
Member #4636
11-15-18, 20:16
A pity we didn't meet each other by chance. Speaking Italian I'm always a little bit more careful when a girl tries to make me believe being from Italy. And as this woman I mentioned was in talks with two I suppose regular German guys I didn't imagine her to be Italian. There was another woman, rather tall and always hanging around in the cinema, Mia, with whom I got a really nice chat and who also pretended being Italian with origin from Bologna. But her ex-husband is Romanian.I went late at Palace just to see the new look so not sure if we could meet. But next time you are very welcome to chat and have a drink. Isabelle is a socialized and very pleasant lady, she is Italian for sure and I call her Rafaela Cara. LOL. I don't know about Mia but there is another very tall lady, Monica who is 1. 80 and she is Russian. When I went she was busy with the slot machine (the only one left). Friday wasn't a good night anyway maybe people don't come because they believe the works are still going on.
Hello!
I went in Palac last Monday night. The club wasn't very crowded. Good food and good cleanliness! Very nice rooms, large and with glasses. Good Kino! I like this new style of club in the main area, like Sharks.
25-30 maximum girl. Nice Line up.
I talk with Isabelle but I didn't get convivial. I don't remember other girl but was nice and not too aggressive.
I went with Chiara, De good session brunette, good session 1 hour and Chiara, Uk, brunette stunning body, half hour very good session.
Very nice club! Near the city and transportation all night with N1 tram in "Industriehof" or "Fishstein".
Recommended club.
Isabelle is blond MILF? Sometimes dancing on podium. She claims to be Italian.
Mr Ho regarding upsell in Palace I must say that I have met a couple of girls that provide really great service for 100-150 max. I cannot tell you about 50/30 because I have never given that amount to a lady. I have done 100/ hour in example which included BBBJ, DATY, GFE and CIM and of course fuck. So in that case the VFM was high not only for the services but for the quality of the services. Lets say around 9 for me. But I have also paid much more for much worst service so in that case the VFM was around 2-3. So Palace regarding upsell is just like the look of the girls. You cannot find average VFM money it will be either very good or bad. Up or down.
Another thing I notice is that there is a lot of variety in the quality of the service. Some girls don't know how to touch a dick, how to take a blow job and what to do to turn on a man. Some others are fantastic and they react great when you touch them or lick them. Also some pretend good, some pretend bad and some just relax and enjoy. The most important for a man in these clubs is not to be a fool.Once in palace, I got great service for 50 euro 30 min session from romanian stunner. So it is depend, but 150 euro per one hour is what I call mild upselling that is within acceptable level if GFE is provided, but lately in this two years of all my visit, negotiation is too intense and extreme that make me choose NRW over Hessen area.
I do not mind mild upsell of 150 per one hour, but extreme upsell really make me choose other destination options for FKK trip.
Member #4636
11-16-18, 06:47
Isabelle is blond MILF? Sometimes dancing on podium. She claims to be Italian.She is not MILF, I say around 30 max, I am not sure I don't ask age LOL.
Isabelle is blond MILF? Sometimes dancing on podium. She claims to be Italian.Yes is her. Any suggestions about good girls?
She is not MILF, I say around 30 max, I am not sure I don't ask age LOL.I think to remember she has also tattoos, but she looks more than 30 yo, no problem, I had great Debi. Ro, 33 yo at Sharks, fire in bed Marina. Lat, 37 yo at Sharks, exceptional part timer Lena. Lat, 37 yo at PSR on August 2013, she made me drive so many kilometers for her charm.
Member #4636
11-17-18, 14:37
I think to remember she has also tattoos, but she looks more than 30 yo, no problem, I had great Debi. Ro, 33 yo at Sharks, fire in bed Marina. Lat, 37 yo at Sharks, exceptional part timer Lena. Lat, 37 yo at PSR on August 2013, she made me drive so many kilometers for her charm.Most of the 30+ ladies are more experienced in bed and they also know better what a man likes, some younger might be more beautiful but they don't provide good service.
When I look back in my very short FKK experience I realise that ladies around 30 provided better service. This Isabelle we are talking about is in the top list of Palace and she is always a good company outside the room as well, I enjoy talking with her, she is always enthusiastic when she see me.
HotSauce691
11-17-18, 16:48
Hi all,
I'm planning to go to palace next week. Has anyone seen German Moniq?
Thanks.
Most of the 30+ ladies are more experienced in bed and they also know better what a man likes, some younger might be more beautiful but they don't provide good service.
When I look back in my very short FKK experience I realise that ladies around 30 provided better service. This Isabelle we are talking about is in the top list of Palace and she is always a good company outside the room as well, I enjoy talking with her, she is always enthusiastic when she see me.Usually right, but my best ever girl in FKK land was not at Globe, but in Germany, only 23 yo when she followed me for my tastes, 70/80 hours in only 6 months when she worked, but she got dirty for money and I preferred to stop.
Member #4636
11-18-18, 07:41
Usually right, but my best ever girl in FKK land was not at Globe, but in Germany, only 23 yo when she followed me for my tastes, 70/80 hours in only 6 months when she worked, but she got dirty for money and I preferred to stop.Didn't you like her to be dirty *****? LOL.
Didn't you like her to be dirty *****? LOL.I loved her charm, elegance and good manners, to drive about 25000 kms for her on about 6/7 months when she worked, but when she lost her elegance and good manners in public for money, I told her no more for me, she was very angry, but I don t desire this kind of prostitute behavior. A high class girl who sold her soul for money. As I told her, even she didn't like I said this, but ready for anything for money. Not anymore attractive for me, no more dream. Fortunately I found other high level ones, but she was really exceptional when she started and claimed to be selective, but no more selection for money.
Member #4636
11-18-18, 23:03
I loved her charm, elegance and good manners, to drive about 25000 kms for her on about 6/7 months when she worked, but when she lost her elegance and good manners in public for money, I told her no more for me, she was very angry, but I don t desire this kind of prostitute behavior. A high class girl who sold her soul for money. As I told her, even she didn't like I said this, but ready for anything for money. Not anymore attractive for me, no more dream. Fortunately I found other high level ones, but she was really exceptional when she started and claimed to be selective, but no more selection for money.Some girls are really exceptional, I understand you absolutely!
Good you found other high class ones and got over it.
Member #4636
11-21-18, 18:32
I think that yesterday was the first Tuesday where men could stay dressed in the club with the nude girls, also with a lower entry.
If anyone went please report how it was.
FKK Dietzenbach -done
Bahama Club -done
FKK Sharks -done
FKK Oase -done
FKK Atlanta -done
5th Element -done
FKK World -done
FKK Rom -done
FKK Night and Day -done
The Palace -done
FKK Mainhattan
Having fixed a nice strong glass of absinthe, he began the tale....
Visiting the 10 of the 11 Hessen FKKs, I again consider why these and why this order.
I have heard back and forth about this place, a mainstay FKK that used to have the greatest reputation that the German guests for a quite a while eschewed. Taking this on board, I left it last, deciding to see the other better clubs which are purer in terms of offering a true FKK experience, saving myself the 75 euro entry fee.
Now, having gone through almost all of them, and following the renovation work which prompted the management to drop the entry fee to 50 euros before 5 pm daily, I figured the time had come to take the short U-Bahn ride to check it out finally.
What I found is a mixed bag with good sides in terms of facilities, staff, ambiance, but purely in terms of what I go to an FKK for, value for money P6 with girls, a disaster. I will admit that I asked for it: 1) It's Palace, a club frequented mostly by tourists with relatively few Stammgaeste 2) I am used to my 2 conditions being met eventually for the standard price. 3) It was Friday night, busiest day of the week.
I wanted to find a club that was different from what I had heard and read, an FKK close to where I live (very close). It could have been perfect now, with myself being prime Stammgast material along with the new entry price. Sadly, I am disappointed that this cannot be the case.
-Getting there: Easiest of them all. Right in front of your nose.
Take the U-6 or U-7 to Hausen or Heerstrasse, get out at Industriehof. Takes 15 minutes if that. Take a left from the station and up one street. You can't miss it.
Getting back: Same lines back to wherever you're staying.
-Layout / Facilities: Spacious enough but not a massive club. Slightly smaller than Sharks without the outside area. The layout confused me a bit. The lighting is very dim I can recall 1 storey divided into 3 main circles.
-From the entrance and reception desk, you find the first circle. Gambling machines here, changing rooms to the left. To the right is the restaurant where food is served. Bar / social area is behind a half-fence.
The restaurant is rather small and during the first serving of dinner it may be difficult to find room. But whatever, the food was really good. Breakfast, with pastries and a light warm course served throughout up until 19:30 when dinner is served. Dinner tonight included a chicken, pork and fish dish. I found this one of the clubs many good points.
Another way takes you along hallways of rooms to the Hamam (steambath) which is next to the massage station. Needless to say I didn't spend much time here.
-Past the fence into the bar area, which is the second circle. Left before heading to the bar, is a doorway that heads (leftward again) to the kino. The kino is amazing. The screen is the largest I have seen so far, with the comfortable cushioned s platforms in front of it offering the perfect scene for an orgy. The girls actively come in and out here to offer their skills and support your desire. Saw BJs (CBJs) being performed here openly. The porn playing is equally fantastic with surround sound. Best kino I have seen so far. Perfect.
The decor changes from that of an oriental palace to a very pretty trendy circular bar. It looks great. Admittedly I never visited the club before the renovations but I did enjoy the look of it. Bar staff was extremely professional and were working around the clock serving drinks.
The jacuzzi which used to be somewhere around here fell victim to the renovations.
Left of the bar steps lead up to another level with sofas. Both ways behind the bar leads up some stairs to the final circle.
-The last circle consists of a round sofa at the top with stair leading down on all sides (apart from where some showers are) down to the 2 saunas, 1 VIP lounge and two bungalow like rooms that look like confession boxes.
The club had hourly sauna sessions with a Saunameister (nice guy).
Sorry for my rather imperfect description of the layout, but the main points are there.
My opinion: Wish they'd kept a jacuzzi but otherwise very good. Really good.
-Girls / L-U:
This is where things get very confusing. The L-U is, in terms of looks and in terms of attitudes, very good.
On this Friday night, I must have at least seen 40 girls at the night's peak before they disappeared in the early hours of the morning. Up until 9 maybe, the girl-guy ratio was in favour of the guys, then leveled, and then generally the number of people in the club died past 2 am.
The L-you is very varied. Apart from the Romanian majority, Hungarian, Dominican, Colombian, German girls were also there.
(Note: I saw one of my previous sessioned girls from Oase here tonight)
This is the first club I have been to that is tourist-dominated. English rather than German is the go-to language. The German skills of many of the girls is quite limited, and the level of English by contrast is very high, the highest I've seen. In a sense, this FKK reflects Frankfurt in general in terms of its focus.
One of the bittersweet points of the L-U is the attitude of the girls. It is. The best I have seen so far. They're talkative, friendly, extremely welcoming, accepting when you tell them why and what you're doing and if you don't want to go to the room. They approach, they approach again whilst not making you feel too pressured. If you're respectful, they are respectful back. The rejection (I should say the decline rather than reject) of my offers was always done in a way that I am not used to in other clubs. The club seems to be a different level of expectation, price, maybe class than what I've seen so far.
I could not find a room with conditions that I would accept. Prices for what I was looking for (my 2 conditions which I never budge on; kissing and BJ that I like) always defaulted to 100 euros for 30 minutes. Every single time. I believe there is a cartel here. Best I could find was 100 euros for 1 hour for what I was looking for.
Unless others were being offered better, I have reason to believe that the standard is essentially the same as the RLD, just for 50 euros instead.
The club in my opinion wins in terms of facilities, but fails in terms of what I would want in an FKK club, namely affordable desirable service.
-Own experience:
I did not enjoy my time here because I could not find what I was looking for. Yet I didn't hate it either.
Damage was the 50 euros entry before 5 pm. The girls are largely motivated but I just couldn't negociate for what I wanted because it always defaulted to an offer that I would not accept.
100 for 30 minutes all the way until the end. Almost without exception. No good.
I came here armed with enough money. I came here with a German friend who knows his way around the FKKs as well. I didn't take a room and nor did he, as both of us couldn't find acceptable conditions. And try we did. It's the equivalent of hitting your head against a brick wall until exhaustion. I recall one of my approaches, interestingly, turning into a two-way with a rather eloquent girl explaining why she would not agree to my conditions and turning the question around. RLD vs. FKKs. An actual conversation verging on the philosophical, surreal.
We enjoyed the food, made use of the facilities, chatted with the girls quite a lot.
Customer base had a few older Germans at the beginning, however later is was mostly foreign.
The club through its pricing especially after 5 pm keeps the riff-raff out. Number of Asian customers.
This remains a tourist-club. Many of the girls can hold their own in a conversation in English quite well. Most German customers do not come here and I see why. It is something else.
-Verdict:
5/10 An odd experience verging on the bad. Good facilities, girls that seem to be nice and then in an organised fashion cockblock with pricing that is beyond my willingness to pay. (Maybe I'm the riff-raff they're keeping out?)
Would I come back? Not unless something changes with the pricing by these girls. This club perhaps, sadly, just isn't for me. This disappointment is perhaps the biggest I've experienced so far in FKK land as everything else is great, but the crucial point of having good sex in an FKK club at a fair price isn't there.
I let them know at the front desk on my way out in what verged on a tirade (No, I was nice but clearly frustrated). They diplomatically took the feedback.
As usual, if you find the report helpful, please consider adding it to the reports of (dubious) distinction section. I am as always happy to contribute to the forum.
Entry 50 before 5 pm now? Less expensive than Sharks or World.
When I visited before works, when Sharks is now lower level than until 2016 for me because of casting, I felt higher level club at Palace than in others in Hessen. But dead on day and bad point for no more pool.
Member #4585
11-24-18, 13:19
saving myself the 75 euro entry fee. You have patience and opportunity being local to await the time when the entry falls to 50 bucks from 75 bucks. Not all of us have your opportunity. You are in a privileged position. Be thankful.
The jacuzzi which used to be somewhere around here fell victim to the renovations. My opinion: Wish they'd kept a jacuzzi but otherwise very good. Really good. That jacuzzi is a pool of infection and disease. In a way I am glad it is gone. Long story, but that is my feed back.
The L-U is, in terms of looks and in terms of attitudes, very good. Good to know that the 40+ line up on a Friday is good looking and good attitudes. Maybe like a contact bar where one knows that they will become lucky with a mark.
This is the first club I have been to that is tourist-dominated. English rather than German is the go-to language. The German skills of many of the girls is quite limited, and the level of English by contrast is very high, the highest I've seen. In a sense, this FKK reflects Frankfurt in general in terms of its focus.
One of the bittersweet points of the L-U is the attitude of the girls. It is. The best I have seen so far. They're talkative, friendly, extremely welcoming, accepting when you tell them why and what you're doing and if you don't want to go to the room. They approach, they approach again whilst not making you feel too pressured. If you're respectful, they are respectful back. The rejection (I should say the decline rather than reject) of my offers was always done in a way that I am not used to in other clubs. The club seems to be a different level of expectation, price, maybe class than what I've seen so far.
An actual conversation verging on the philosophical, surreal.
This remains a tourist-club. Many of the girls can hold their own in a conversation in English quite well. You make a true recommendation that this club is Tourist friendly and is a positive in Palace's favor. Good promotion.
The issue is the service. The girls upsells beyond standard covered suck and fuck. A girl told me it's been a year since this pricing took effect. That means the after the new law. They are charging extras beyond covered suck and fuck.
Back in the days with standard pricing made things easier, but with the new law services are getting more difficult in Germany.
I could not find a room with conditions that I would accept. Prices for what I was looking for (my 2 conditions which I never budge on; kissing and BJ that I like) always defaulted to 100 euros for 30 minutes. Every single time. I believe there is a cartel here. Best I could find was 100 euros for 1 hour for what I was looking for.
100 for 30 minutes all the way until the end. Almost without exception. How you explain Palace is that it hold true to the FKK club ethos of standard pricing for standard service. At least every girl is consistent which is what your experience says. Nowadays it is a case of each customer not knowing what the pricing for each girl is. In time immemorial there was the case that each girl provided the same service level for the same fee. It seems Palace has clung to that ideal to ensure that customers have that certainty. No matter if you take a 9 or a 10 grade girl she will offer the same deal. The FKK tradition is of a cartel where there is standard service. This is what a few of the older reporters talked about that you knew what you were getting.
Customer base had a few older Germans at the beginning, however later is was mostly foreign. Yeah, its the same in many Western countries. The native population is getting older hence are retired having more time on their hands so can attend in the day time. The work is being taken up more and more by foreigners who have to work in the day time. This explains why later on the clientele is foreign since they had to work in the day. One must be thankful for non native workers.
The club through its pricing especially after 5 pm keeps the riff-raff out. Number of Asian customers. Interesting point that the Asians cannot afford to enter the clubs keeping the "riff-raff" out. I expect you are implying this is a bad thing since it makes the club more unequal in its clientele. Makes a difference to the complaint that Asians are overpaying.
Interesting point that the Asians cannot afford to enter the clubs keeping the "riff-raff" out. I expect you are implying this is a bad thing since it makes the club more unequal in its clientele. Makes a difference to the complaint that Asians are overpaying.Thank you for the thoughtful comments on my report. I will however clarify that here, this was ABSOLUTELY not my point. (Maybe I should have moved the "Number of asian customers" further away from the riff-raff comment which was not connected. Quite the opposite, the Asian customers are well-behaved, but it does as in the other clubs imply the greater tourist-focus rather than on locals, though not necessarily.
But yes, I think that the Chinese / Japanese customers that are just flying in for a weekend business trip are more likely to be generous and overpay, and that is probably a main characteristic of this club.
On the other hand anyway, this was my view, my German companion really enjoyed the club, despite not taking a room. This club is a level above a number of others with a very different vibe. I can imagine for other people it may make a 6/10 or higher if one has never been in an FKK before and has come from out of town.
I believe the eloquent girl mentioned below's name was Elina, for whatever it adds.
Member #4585
11-24-18, 14:28
Thank you for the thoughtful comments on my report. I will however clarify that here, this was ABSOLUTELY not my point. (Maybe I should have moved the "Number of asian customers" further away from the riff-raff comment which was not connected. Quite the opposite, the Asian customers are well-behaved, but it does as in the other clubs imply the greater tourist-focus rather than on locals, though not necessarily.
But yes, I think that the Chinese / Japanese customers that are just flying in for a weekend business trip are more likely to be generous and overpay, and that is probably a main characteristic of this club.
On the other hand anyway, this was my view, my German companion really enjoyed the club, despite not taking a room. This club is a level above a number of others with a very different vibe. I can imagine for other people it may make a 6/10 or higher if one has never been in an FKK before and has come from out of town.
I believe the eloquent girl mentioned below's name was Elina, for whatever it adds.
Palace does have a good foreign number. I see your point. The entry price hopefully deters the tire kickers but many times I do not see this.
Your report does imply that the average Palace dame is a higher level, showing good manners and high intellect in holding a conversation, in English, which a tourist from out of town would appreciate. This are all positives in a normative sense. I think your grading is harsh given the many positives you write.
Also good to know that business is conducted at weekends to accommodate the fly in customers from China and Japan for weekend business trips. In my times in Frankfurt, there is nary a thing open on a Sunday except a few petrol stations, Mc Donalds and FKK clubs. I wish I had their contacts doing business on Sundays and Saturdays since when I do business it has to be Monday to Friday.
Member #4636
11-24-18, 20:37
Thank you for the thoughtful comments on my report. I will however clarify that here, this was ABSOLUTELY not my point. (Maybe I should have moved the "Number of asian customers" further away from the riff-raff comment which was not connected. Quite the opposite, the Asian customers are well-behaved, but it does as in the other clubs imply the greater tourist-focus rather than on locals, though not necessarily.
But yes, I think that the Chinese / Japanese customers that are just flying in for a weekend business trip are more likely to be generous and overpay, and that is probably a main characteristic of this club.
On the other hand anyway, this was my view, my German companion really enjoyed the club, despite not taking a room. This club is a level above a number of others with a very different vibe. I can imagine for other people it may make a 6/10 or higher if one has never been in an FKK before and has come from out of town.
I believe the eloquent girl mentioned below's name was Elina, for whatever it adds.Pretty much close to reality. Some magic things can happen into this club a newbie much be prepared and careful. It is a fuck luck place, some days are great some others are boring to hell. The food is always nice never complain. The kino is great but I am not the guy who will watch porn in a FKK and start jerking LOL LOL.
All girls upsell but there are 1-2 that provide great service for 100/ hour. I miss the jacuzzi because it gave a great view to watch the girls coming toward you while inside LOL.
I don't like much the new look I prefer the previous one. The rooms are also very nice I usually go to a room that fits 10 couples I have no idea why they take me there, I never ask for an orgy LOL.
Steve 9696
11-24-18, 23:28
Thanks for the FR, Lathano, but it just reinforces that we are all different. I will gladly pay 100 a half for BBBJ and kissing at a nice club with a great LU and I am surely not alone (and no I am not Asian). And just the pricing consistency alone is a huge plus. I only went to Palace five years ago and was underimpressed but after the remodel and review I will most certainly go again!
It's great that at some clubs you are negotiating lower rates, but IMO, the new rate is justified and it is not the girls fault. It used to be 50 included BBBJ, but now many are asking for an illegal act for the same price. Pussy costs what it does in Pussy Prison USA because it is illegal. Making BBBJ illegal upped the price. Not the fault of the girls IMO (tho the extra for DFK trend is alarming).
But in the end, what is too much for one guy is just fine for another, just as you like the RLD and some do not. There is no right answer (I know you are not saying there is) just different tastes and value curves.
Thanks for your continuing amazing contributions to the forum!
FunExplorer
11-26-18, 12:32
Thanks for the FR, Lathano, but it just reinforces that we are all different. I will gladly pay 100 a half for BBBJ and kissing at a nice club with a great LU and I am surely not alone (and no I am not Asian). And just the pricing consistency alone is a huge plus. I only went to Palace five years ago and was underimpressed but after the remodel and review I will most certainly go again!
It's great that at some clubs you are negotiating lower rates, but IMO, the new rate is justified and it is not the girls fault. It used to be 50 included BBBJ, but now many are asking for an illegal act for the same price. Pussy costs what it does in Pussy Prison USA because it is illegal. Making BBBJ illegal upped the price. Not the fault of the girls IMO (tho the extra for DFK trend is alarming).
But in the end, what is too much for one guy is just fine for another, just as you like the RLD and some do not. There is no right answer (I know you are not saying there is) just different tastes and value curves.
Thanks for your continuing amazing contributions to the forum!I agree with you. I had some excellent sessions last month with varied ethnicity. The girls were nice, well cultured and understanding. Of course, I also initially resented paying E 100 here as well as in Sharks, but soon realised that is going to be be the norm. As you point out, it would not be unreasonable if girls demand E 100, provided they offer BBBJ and DFK. I did get these from all girls I went with. Some girls were not time watchers so much so they were with me for one hour.
That girls now ask E 100.
That girls now ask E 100.Which is fair enough if service is really provided as you say, which include DFK, BBBJ and hey do not forget DATY LOL.
Member #4636
11-28-18, 18:46
Which is fair enough if service is really provided as you say, which include DFK, BBBJ and hey do not forget DATY LOL.Only few girls provide that for 100 / hour. If you are lucky enough they throw in CIM at the end as well.
But I think most of them would ask 150 for same service, higher than that is upsell.
FunExplorer
11-29-18, 12:58
Which is fair enough if service is really provided as you say, which include DFK, BBBJ and hey do not forget DATY LOL.Yes had forgotten. Well that was always included.
FunExplorer
11-29-18, 12:59
Only few girls provide that for 100 / hour. If you are lucky enough they throw in CIM at the end as well.
But I think most of them would ask 150 for same service, higher than that is upsell.Most would not agree for E 100 for CIM I guess. But I managed this in Sharks with a girl.
Member #4636
11-29-18, 19:31
Most would not agree for E 100 for CIM I guess. But I managed this in Sharks with a girl.CIM is always an extra, so no they will not agree. Best is to start saying what you want from the beginning and you may negotiate a better price. Not all girls provide the same service for a fixed price, and of course not all of them provide quality service which is more important.
BigBuddy69
11-29-18, 20:48
Only few girls provide that for 100 / hour. If you are lucky enough they throw in CIM at the end as well.
But I think most of them would ask 150 for same service, higher than that is upsell.Too bad you don't realize that 150/ h is already an upsell.
ExpatLover
11-29-18, 21:21
Too bad you don't realize that 150/ h is already an upsell.You are right but I stopp to write about that topic most of the mongers don t understand that it is 50 euro for 30 minutes and extra for me is only CIM and anal but if they are ready to pay more let them do.
Too bad you don't realize that 150/ h is already an upsell.150/ HR including CIM = standard price.
150/ HR not including CIM = Suckers Price / Upsell Royale.
150/ HR including CIM = standard price.
150/ HR not including CIM = Suckers Price / Upsell Royale.200/ HR. What you going to do price? Upsell apre new law LOL.
Well, then I choose to go for 50 euro session for 30 min fucking her from back hardcore, cum and pay 50 euro, which is good price to get rid of stress you got from such girl.
In any negotiation, both parties have to benefit, it is too bad some FKK girls do not understand that. I do not mind 150 euro mild upsell, but I mind 200 euro rip off, it is double the house price, if such thing exist or even ever really existed in palace LOL.
Member #4636
11-30-18, 05:49
Too bad you don't realize that 150/ h is already an upsell.I have a different approach to ladies BB69.
150/ hour which includes BBBJ, DATY, CIM is not that bad in FKK market prices at least from what I have read about other clubs.
But it all has to do with the girl you chose, I have met some that I wouldn't go with them even if they paid me, I have also met some others that I wouldn't mind to give more to live an experience with them. It is all about value for money at the end of the day, of course I have my limits and don't want to be treated as a fool or sucker. But that is something only I can realise at the end and no one else.
200/ HR. I do not mind 150 euro mild upsell, but I mind 200 euro rip off, it is double the house price, if such thing exist or even ever really existed in palace LOL.I don't really get all of this, and in particular 150 being a "mild upsell". The standard price is 50/30. We all know that girls do not want to honour that any longer. I can completely understand why not. It encourages guys (I'll confess I've been guilty of this) to bang a lot of girls for not a lot of cash. Sure there are girls in this club and others who will still give DFK / BBBJ and F&S for 50/30. They are unlikely to be top performers or lookers. They are girls who need to make the house fee. Or are genuinely just very generous. In this day and age I tend to think that paying a girl 50 euros for 30 minutes of unbridled banging away, DFK / BBBJ is asking a lot. I agree with one contributor. Just be honest on your website and on the door. Tell mongers the prices have changed. It's no longer 50/30. OR. Say it is that for a basic service. Which we all will understand to be (and they should say to be legally compliant) CBJ and sex.
But 150 is not a mild upsell. Most of the girls will automatically revert to a better than basic service, including DFK and BBBJ if you book them for one hour for standard 100 - not an upsell. Then CIM has always been 50 more. So one hour including BBBJ and DFK and CIM at 150 is no upsell. Not mild. Just not upsell at all.
I appreciate many girls want to push for 100/30 for BBBJ and DFK. I have a simple way around this which I deployed very happily twice in Oase last night. Lanthano will report far better than I on our mutual exploits. I say "we go to the room for one hour. I expect more than basic service. If I finish in 15 minutes I still pay 100. If I finish in 45 its 100. If I finish in 59 minutes and 59 seconds its 100" - I explain but will not elaborate as its obvious from the above. I am yet to have a single girl refuse this. It means you get all of the services, for max one hour, for 100. No upsell. Standard price. Only difference is that whereas in days gone by you could stipulate 50/30 now you don't get much for that. So to take it to 100 and buy the extra hour and guaranteed full service works. Most girls are confident they will get you over the line inside 30 minutes. It needs management. One of the girls was clever enough last night to ask me how many rooms I'the had that day. She was assessing the likelihood of getting an early finish!
Kosher Kowboy
11-30-18, 15:53
I don't really get all of this, and in particular 150 being a "mild upsell". The standard price is 50/30. We all know that girls do not want to honour that any longer. I can completely understand why not. It encourages guys (I'll confess I've been guilty of this) to bang a lot of girls for not a lot of cash. Sure there are girls in this club and others who will still give DFK / BBBJ and F&S for 50/30. They are unlikely to be top performers or lookers. They are girls who need to make the house fee. Or are genuinely just very generous. In this day and age I tend to think that paying a girl 50 euros for 30 minutes of unbridled banging away, DFK / BBBJ is asking a lot. I agree with one contributor. Just be honest on your website and on the door. Tell mongers the prices have changed. It's no longer 50/30. OR. Say it is that for a basic service. Which we all will understand to be (and they should say to be legally compliant) CBJ and sex.
But 150 is not a mild upsell. Most of the girls will automatically revert to a better than basic service, including DFK and BBBJ if you book them for one hour for standard 100 - not an upsell. Then CIM has always been 50 more. So one hour including BBBJ and DFK and CIM at 150 is no upsell. Not mild. Just not upsell at all.
I appreciate many girls want to push for 100/30 for BBBJ and DFK. I have a simple way around this which I deployed very happily twice in Oase last night. Lanthano will report far better than I on our mutual exploits. I say "we go to the room for one hour. I expect more than basic service. If I finish in 15 minutes I still pay 100. If I finish in 45 its 100. If I finish in 59 minutes and 59 seconds its 100" - I explain but will not elaborate as its obvious from the above. I am yet to have a single girl refuse this. It means you get all of the services, for max one hour, for 100. No upsell. Standard price. Only difference is that whereas in days gone by you could stipulate 50/30 now you don't get much for that. So to take it to 100 and buy the extra hour and guaranteed full service works. Most girls are confident they will get you over the line inside 30 minutes. It needs management. One of the girls was clever enough last night to ask me how many rooms I'the had that day. She was assessing the likelihood of getting an early finish!I was going to quote some parts here I agreed with but upon completion of a double read there is not one thing I disagree with. Although I don't go to the Palace, I am aware of no fewer than 5 girls who work Mainhatten and Palace bouncing back and forth and the pricing is the same. Yes, there is always a ' cheater' to be found as well who will break the Mafia rules and take a 50 or even do extras on 100 rooms others won't.
Go to the room for 100, make them happy and yes, can twist some things back in the buyer's favor. I have had some great 50's at Oase and Sharks but the better sessions I had at both those clubs were for 100 and for 100 at Mainhatten for me many of the sessions were just as good and equal in services to what I got for 100 at the others. I think whatever system you were working was similar to one I toy with. My two favs that carry around red towels are now giving up more in either time / services than they first did with no change in the 100.
Sometimes attitude can make or break a session, IMHO and for me (not telling other guys how to play their cards we all play out our own hands) if the girl knows she is headed to the room for 100 a much better attitude will be there in general and possibilities for enhancements there. I am not saying one can't find ' wedding nights' or ' wedding nights+FIV+ free Viagra' for 50 anymore but toss them 100 and work the best session you can is sometimes MY attitude. Works for me and that is all that matters.
Most of my Oase and Sharks sessions end up being 100 somehow how anyway with me ' upselling' myself, same as elsewhere when it comes time to ' Pay4 It' at the money boxes.
I must say this is an excellent post as most of yours are (here and in Spain.) I still feel bad about ' dispatching' you to Mainhatten and you walking out and I would make it up to you with 2-3 ' guaranteed not to fail Gypsy sessions' down the road but my gut is you would walk out cursing the club still feeling very dirty and cursing me out a second time !
You would probably have more fun talking to me than with the Gypsies as I did that day talking to Lanthano was more fun than the Sharks. He too has some interesting theories and things he implements, different than mine in some regards but we both get from one point to the next happily. Hope you two had fun and he didn't pull the local upsell on you if he did please warn me as I booked him on an upcoming trip !
Great post
:D
You would probably have more fun talking to me than with the Gypsies as I did that day talking to Lanthano was more fun than the Sharks. He too has some interesting theories and things he implements, different than mine in some regards but we both get from one point to the next happily. Hope you two had fun and he didn't pull the local upsell on you if he did please warn me as I booked him on an upcoming trip !
Great post
:DThanks. You'll have a great time with Lanthano. He is superb company and good fun. And don't worry about the Mainhattan thing. It happens. In fact, having seriously wanted to go to World all day today, work took over and I'm typing this from the bloody hotel room in central FRA. So, I am going to risk another shot at Mainhattan tonight. Not on your recommendation at all but just to see. If it's awful I'll head back to Oase as there several there last night I'the have happily roomed with in addition to the two I did. I'm skipping Palace as my last two visits here were not that great.
Kosher Kowboy
11-30-18, 18:30
Thanks. You'll have a great time with Lanthano. He is superb company and good fun. And don't worry about the Mainhattan thing. It happens. In fact, having seriously wanted to go to World all day today, work took over and I'm typing this from the bloody hotel room in central FRA. So, I am going to risk another shot at Mainhattan tonight. Not on your recommendation at all but just to see. If it's awful I'll head back to Oase as there several there last night I'the have happily roomed with in addition to the two I did. I'm skipping Palace as my last two visits here were not that great.I wish you a good time :D
Few there I really like, pull the names from the Mainhatten thread and maybe one you will fancy or maybe not, perhaps another. And if not I have heard from a few this week how good Oase is the pickings / value great as well. I love this time of year, w / o fail regardless of country or city or place always a great time to be a buyer. Has held true for my 25 years or so travelling locally and afar
Enjoy your trip and do not work to hard!
I don't really get all of this, and in particular 150 being a "mild upsell". The standard price is 50/30. We all know that girls do not want to honour that any longer. I can completely understand why not. It encourages guys (I'll confess I've been guilty of this) to bang a lot of girls for not a lot of cash. Sure there are girls in this club and others who will still give DFK / BBBJ and F&S for 50/30. They are unlikely to be top performers or lookers. They are girls who need to make the house fee. Or are genuinely just very generous. In this day and age I tend to think that paying a girl 50 euros for 30 minutes of unbridled banging away, DFK / BBBJ is asking a lot. I agree with one contributor. Just be honest on your website and on the door. Tell mongers the prices have changed. It's no longer 50/30. OR. Say it is that for a basic service. Which we all will understand to be (and they should say to be legally compliant) CBJ and sex.I know the original house price, but that is no longer by the way, and I got lucky sometimes when I was not really mood to go to room because I just had session or for whatever reason, so I go just 50 euro and 30 min and wow the session was provided with full service even including rim job few times, but those sessions I can count in my almost 10 years in FKK.
I tend to go only for stunners mostly and look, some mongers claim they always get all for just 50 euro, but I do not think they get that from German table girls and friends in palace for example. I only go for top lookers, so mostly it involve some upsell and I understand that to some extent, I give into 150 euro full package session for one hour, but if it is more, some other options has to be thrown in.
I read some crazy prices in various threads like some girls asking for 300 euro or more for one hour etc. , but to me that is crazy upsell and I do not mind paying a bit more for doing something more for top lookers. It used to be so much more easier, but in this recent years, there tend to be more and more of price fixing among girls in near city clubs like palace.
If one want to get all for standard price of 50 euro as you say, almost only place you get that from most girls are NRW beside oceans. Palace and Artemis, but palace is the most up selling club of all FKK.
Let see, by the look of it, palace changed to interior that look identical set up as Artemis main bar, I wonder how line up will changes.
I know the original house price, but that is no longer by the way, I only go for top lookers, so mostly it involve some upsell and I understand that to some extent, I give into 150 euro full package session for one hour, but if it is more, some other options has to be thrown in.
Not for the Palace thread. And I will report fully in Mainhattan. But was at Mainhattan tonight and my policy of 100 for full service in an hour failed miserably. For basic service the girls would agree 100/ hour but if I wanted DFK / BBBJ / DATY. It was 150 hour or 100/30 minutes (which made the hour sensible). So you are right. Things have changed and I too only go for top lookers unless someone really strikes a chord / chemistry.
Not for the Palace thread. And I will report fully in Mainhattan. But was at Mainhattan tonight and my policy of 100 for full service in an hour failed miserably. For basic service the girls would agree 100/ hour but if I wanted DFK / BBBJ / DATY. It was 150 hour or 100/30 minutes (which made the hour sensible). So you are right. Things have changed and I too only go for top lookers unless someone really strikes a chord / chemistry.The scale of upsell, hear me out LOL. Ok, once, I was so eager to negotiate about DFK and BBBJ and it was included just in 100 euro for one hour session, I was like, wow I got the fair deal as standard house price like how it is supposed to be, I am in room, I was happy with session with DFK BBBJ etc. And I was going to lick her pussy, then she hold her pussy and said, no, that is extra 50 euro LOL! Man, upsell is becoming hardcore that you have to check every single moves you make in room LOL!
Seriously, it is getting too much now that, I get tired in some clubs with such tendency, which make me buy ticket to NRW region where upsell is more mild or none.
Member #4636
12-01-18, 06:58
Let see, by the look of it, palace changed to interior that look identical set up as Artemis main bar, I wonder how line up will changes.I will tell you soon my friend!
ExpatLover
12-01-18, 07:06
Not for the Palace thread. And I will report fully in Mainhattan. But was at Mainhattan tonight and my policy of 100 for full service in an hour failed miserably. For basic service the girls would agree 100/ hour but if I wanted DFK / BBBJ / DATY. It was 150 hour or 100/30 minutes (which made the hour sensible). So you are right. Things have changed and I too only go for top lookers unless someone really strikes a chord / chemistry.Impact from the new law, less newcomers, mostly Romanian girls who are controlling the ops in clubs, many girls don t want to get register to protect their private life and future some girls have got letters from the tax office at home where the name prostitution was written.
Member #4636
12-01-18, 07:18
Not for the Palace thread. And I will report fully in Mainhattan. But was at Mainhattan tonight and my policy of 100 for full service in an hour failed miserably. For basic service the girls would agree 100/ hour but if I wanted DFK / BBBJ / DATY. It was 150 hour or 100/30 minutes (which made the hour sensible). So you are right. Things have changed and I too only go for top lookers unless someone really strikes a chord / chemistry.If you go for 100/ hour full service and especially of you are looking for top lookers your chances to find what you are looking for are less than 10 %. At least for clubs like palace and manhattan.
You don't want to waste your time by been rejected all the time because you will be pissed of and go to the kino for jerking yourself off LOL LOL.
I know this before going and because of the service I want (always BBBJ, DATY, CIM at least) ,100 is the standard price for an hour or less.
100 -hour for that, you have chances 20-30 % in these clubs. If you offer 150 e then you are there, your chances increase to 90 %. So you end up saying 150 full service but forget anal of course.
30 min sessions I don't like because I not only don't enjoy what I want but because there will be a stress around to be in time.
The scale of upsell, hear me out LOL. Man, upsell is becoming hardcore that you have to check every single moves you make in room LOL! Seriously, it is getting too much now that, I get tired in some clubs with such tendency, which make me buy ticket to NRW region where upsell is more mild or none.If you read Lanthano's Oase post today you'll see he was also subected to this on our outing in Oase last Thursday. I get why 50/30 is not attractive to the girls. The truth is that you don't really see that price anywhere with quality in the rest of Europe. UK (London) is minimum £150/ hour. Manchester is less but the LU options are poor (not as bad as London where its escorts only). Spain: Madrid (Vive) - best club in the World for me but 260 per hour now. Diana Plus is great value at 100/ hour but a lot of girls there now want 150. Factory Air 150/ hour. Malaga: Scandalos moved prices up recently to 220/ hour now back to 200. Estark remains great value at 150. Fontana near Algeciras is 180/ hour. Globe in Zurich is 240/ CHF / hour. Artemis Berlin 120/ hour basic service and a lot of upsell (though I happen to love the club).
So you can see why finally the girls in Hesse's are getting to wanting 150/ hour for full service!
I just do not know why the clubs do not tell their customers that prices have increased. I recall the old 50/25 rule in Samya going up to standard 50/50 when Oceans opened. Very sad but it happens. Whilst I fully accept that without a stated policy increase it would be possible to still track down some girls doing everything for 50/30, they will be the less good looking girls and that practice has always existed. It is why you can still get 100 in Diana Plus where most of them are not lookers, and the odd stunner wants to push to 150. But I'the rather the Globe policy be implemented. It's one price. Service is full on and excellent from all of the girls. I believe the club gets rid of girls who get several complaints about service. If we all knew we would have fantastic rooms time after time for 150/ hour in the big Hessen clubs I don't think many would mind so much. And making it 100/30 to encourage customers to take the hour is fine with me.
The current ambiguity on prices means far too much haggling which can ruin the mood anyway. I had the most amazing session with [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901) in Mainhattan last night. But only after she'the said "look. Its 150 for the hour and I promise you I will make you very happy. Let's not discuss money all night and I'm sure you can afford 150. If my service is poor we go to reception". I went to the room and genuinely would have paid 200/ hour for that service. Fantastic.
You generally get what you pay for in life. Time for the Hessen clubs to set some proper policies. In all of them. As for making you divert to NRW I'm afraid I'm not on that page. Oceans is cold to me though I like the food and the layout. I will not return to the cancer lounge at Living Room as I prefer to stay alive. Samya is fun and I actually like the vibe at Mondial. But overall NRW just does not match up to the nudity in Hessen.
BigBuddy69
12-01-18, 10:35
If I recall the old 50/25 rule in Samya going up to standard 50/50 when Oceans opened.Actually you don't remember so well because Samya was the last of the big NRW clubs to go the standard 50/50 and it was a few years after Oceans opened. Maybe you can afford to pay 100/30 min but me I can't. As long as your price policies stay in Hessen it's fine for me, but don't bring them in NRW please.
I will tell you soon my friend!Good luck and enjoy!
If you read Lanthano's Oase post today you'll see he was also subected to this on our outing in Oase last Thursday. I get why 50/30 is not attractive to the girls. The truth is that you don't really see that price anywhere with quality in the rest of Europe. UK (London) is minimum 150/ hour. Manchester is less but the LU options are poor (not as bad as London where its escorts only). Spain: Madrid (Vive) - best club in the World for me but 260 per hour now. Diana Plus is great value at 100/ hour but a lot of girls there now want 150. Factory Air 150/ hour. Malaga: Scandalos moved prices up recently to 220/ hour now back to 200. Estark remains great value at 150. Fontana near Algeciras is 180/ hour. Globe in Zurich is 240/ CHF / hour. Artemis Berlin 120/ hour basic service and a lot of upsell (though I happen to love the club).
So you can see why finally the girls in Hesse's are getting to wanting 150/ hour for full service!
You generally get what you pay for in life. Time for the Hessen clubs to set some proper policies. In all of them. As for making you divert to NRW I'm afraid I'm not on that page. Oceans is cold to me though I like the food and the layout. I will not return to the cancer lounge at Living Room as I prefer to stay alive. Samya is fun and I actually like the vibe at Mondial. But overall NRW just does not match up to the nudity in Hessen.We had it lucky till recently. I discovered FKK in 2009 and for few years, 50 euro 30 min good enough session was possible, it was golden era, but now we got to face the reality of negotiating each thing you want to do in room or it can end up as an extra LOL. What was normal before is no longer normal in some FKK. NRW, service is still there.
Kosher Kowboy
12-01-18, 16:21
The truth is that you don't really see that price anywhere with quality in the rest of Europe. UK (London) is minimum 150/ hour. Manchester is less but the LU options are poor (not as bad as London where its escorts only). Spain: Madrid (Vive) - best club in the World for me but 260 per hour now. Diana Plus is great value at 100/ hour but a lot of girls there now want 150. Factory Air 150/ hour. Malaga: Scandalos moved prices up recently to 220/ hour now back to 200. Estark remains great value at 150. Fontana near Algeciras is 180/ hour. Globe in Zurich is 240/ CHF / hour. Artemis Berlin 120/ hour basic service and a lot of upsell (though I happen to love the club).
So you can see why finally the girls in Hesse's are getting to wanting 150/ hour for full service!
The current ambiguity on prices means far too much haggling which can ruin the mood anyway. I had the most amazing session with Codeword 901 in Mainhattan last night. But only after she'the said "look. Its 150 for the hour and I promise you I will make you very happy. Let's not discuss money all night and I'm sure you can afford 150. If my service is poor we go to reception". I went to the room and genuinely would have paid 200/ hour for that service. Fantastic.
The truth is the cost of pussy is up worldwide and guys I know who go to the Asian countries as well as points south of here and also who play in Canada and the USA all report higher prices and / or reduced service levels so why is it that Germany is going to be some Oasis in the Desert not subject to ' inflation. ' Sounds like prices in budget and always great value Spain also spiked. Nature of the business. I actually just peaked at Barcelona's board and an Indy site in Spain and can see the spikes.
I got a novel idea, if you can't afford it to the point 10-50 Euros breaks your bank find a new place or go elsewhere (RTC / RLD / Indies / Brothels). Market is market, demand will meet supply and therein lies the answer; the answer is not ' idiot Americans and Asians who fly in ruining it' as if one adds up all the market forces in play that is a bunch of bullshit to simply blame Asians and Americans. Yes, we Yankees and our Asian brethren are part of the equation but far from the whole.
Sure it might contribute a tad (I would say Palace and Mainhatten are examples where blaming Americans / Asians holds ' some' water) but are worldwide spikes in pussy the fault of the Americans and the Asians? FYI guys in the Americas complain about European guys (many German) coming in to ' our backyards' and forcing prices up. Even in Cuba prices have spiked. St Maartan patronized by Euro toting tourists just as much as Americans have seen huge spikes and along those lines condoms slapped on for all blowjobs. In Panama City what was 100 bucks when I went guys are paying 125-150 now. And so on. CR has been ruined. DR prices are up. Prices in the Mexican border towns are up.
Once upon a time not so long ago I went to a club and met a German. He recommended a girl who wanted IMO above what I pay. I finally realized I could save 50 Euros or get some hot pussy and went with her and several times since. I once wrote to him and joked how this girl 'ripped me off' but his reply was surprisingly ' But did you have a good time?
The answer is yes, along the lines of PayforIt's ' Codeword901' girl in Mainhatten. I wasn't ripped off rather I paid market for that club. In PayforIt's case he went against the grain of his own pricing practices in fact calling it ' fantastic' and he would have paid more but he didn't. He paid market. Oase / Sharks have their market price. Mainhatten / Palace have theirs. Paying above market not good, paying market, big deal! Same goes for other clubs and clubs I have yet to venture to and may never. Hey, if pussy at some clubs is too much go see The Gyspies, just make sure to tip them as I do, to quote a local there ' let the girls make a little money'. That came from a German on the ground, not a guy who flew in from New York City or Tokyo. And if you get really bored and can only blame Asians and Americans watch the guys paying at the pay boxes at Sharks next time handing over tips. One will notice if they are observant enough that many of them are not Asians nor Americans. Germans and guys who speak English speaking with accents I can tell are from England / Ireland / Scotland. Perhaps NZ, Australia or South Africa as I can't differentiate between the non-American English speakers but I sure can identify a guy handing over a 50 or a 100 with a 10 or 20 Euro or more note to accompany it.
Just saying.
By the way, airline flights returning from Frankfurt if you buy the legs a la carte are also up the reason per one particular carrier explained as ' gate costs' in Frankfurt have risen, I guess that too is the fault of all the Americans and Asians flying in :D
Actually you don't remember so well because Samya was the last of the big NRW clubs to go the standard 50/50 and it was a few years after Oceans opened. Maybe you can afford to pay 100/30 min but me I can't. As long as your price policies stay in Hessen it's fine for me, but don't bring them in NRW please.GT and LR increased on September 2014, Samya on August 2016.
Spain: Madrid (Vive) - best club in the World for me but 260 per hour now. Diana Plus is great value at 100/ hour but a lot of girls there now want 150. Factory Air 150/ hour. Malaga: Scandalos moved prices up recently to 220/ hour now back to 200. Estark remains great value at 150. Fontana near Algeciras is 180/ hour. Globe in Zurich is 240/ CHF / hour. Artemis Berlin 120/ hour basic service and a lot of upsell (though I happen to love the club).
You generally get what you pay for in life. Time for the Hessen clubs to set some proper policies. In all of them. As for making you divert to NRW I'm afraid I'm not on that page. Oceans is cold to me though I like the food and the layout. I will not return to the cancer lounge at Living Room as I prefer to stay alive. Samya is fun and I actually like the vibe at Mondial. But overall NRW just does not match up to the nudity in Hessen.Vive in Madrid, I never been, but what is so good about that place? The optic of girls or service or both?
Artemis, yes, it actually was my favorite club before and I am thinking of moving back as best sessions I got are in Artemis and Palace with some upsell.
Cencer room in Living Room? You mean smokes in main bar? LOL, well I would say artemis main bar is the worst of all, but good thing is one can always escape in Artemis to other area.
The thing is club no longer set price policies on girls because of new regulation, so more and more some girls do what they want and sometimes, it get too ridiculous. I pay up a bit, but if it get too much I am going to be just 50 euro 30 min baby LOL!
Has anyone been to Palace lately that would like to discuss it? I'm considering a pre Christmas trip to that neighborhood and am curious if it's worth the stop. What are the highlights and pitfalls?
Has anyone been to Palace lately that would like to discuss it? I'm considering a pre Christmas trip to that neighborhood and am curious if it's worth the stop. What are the highlights and pitfalls?Was there around 2 weeks ago.
Maybe reading my report might help.
Was there around 2 weeks ago.
Maybe reading my report might help.I guess I'll have to page back further passed all the Spain reports.
Has anyone been to Palace lately that would like to discuss it? I'm considering a pre Christmas trip to that neighborhood and am curious if it's worth the stop. What are the highlights and pitfalls?New construction is very nice. Feels like swank lounge. Music is now hip lounge vibe, better than bad music of Oase and shark. Food is clean and best in Frankfurt area. Rooms, shower and locker area clean. Staff very polite and dress like high end retail. Did not feel smoke was problem, and I leave club my clothes did not smell like smoke.
Pitfall is selection of girl is lesser number compare to shark and Oase, with more upsell tactic. However, the model russian girl with natural curve and light eyes from Oase is now at palace.
New construction is very nice. Feels like swank lounge. Music is now hip lounge vibe, better than bad music of Oase and shark. Food is clean and best in Frankfurt area. Rooms, shower and locker area clean. Staff very polite and dress like high end retail. Did not feel smoke was problem, and I leave club my clothes did not smell like smoke.
Pitfall is selection of girl is lesser number compare to shark and Oase, with more upsell tactic. However, the model russian girl with natural curve and light eyes from Oase is now at palace.You have to wear clothes now at palace and not bath robe?
I would hate to walk around with my clothes in smoke free FKK main bar like Artemis because new set up looks exactly like Artemis main bar and I know how smoky Artemis main bar is.
You have to wear clothes now at palace and not bath robe?You wear robe or towel still. I meaning to say my hair and face did not smell of smoke when I leave the new Palace. However, I was in room with girls most of time.
After avoiding Palace in the last few years, I decided to give it a try. I had enough of Sharks, after realizing that the service there is going downhill and upselling is strong also there, so I said let's give Palace a try.
And what a pleasure it was! The new layout is great, gives a feeling of a real luxury night club, great atmosphere with great music and vibe. The girls are approaching you but in a nice way and the line up quality is higher than Sharks IMHO.
I had a nice session with a girl that I know for a long time but forgot her name, but if it wasn't so late I'm sure I could have found many more, there were few nationalities, also few black girls, seems that Palace is back to the game!
Member #4636
12-06-18, 15:45
You have to wear clothes now at palace and not bath robe?
I would hate to walk around with my clothes in smoke free FKK main bar like Artemis because new set up looks exactly like Artemis main bar and I know how smoky Artemis main bar is.Every Tuesday where the entry is 60 BTW you can stay with your clothes inside the club if you want to.
The robe is optional.
I stayed with clothes and enjoyed it more. I think I was the only one with clothes but didn't noticed much since I was all the time with one girl.
Member #4636
12-06-18, 15:47
After avoiding Palace in the last few years, I decided to give it a try. I had enough of Sharks, after realizing that the service there is going downhill and upselling is strong also there, so I said let's give Palace a try.
And what a pleasure it was! The new layout is great, gives a feeling of a real luxury night club, great atmosphere with great music and vibe. The girls are approaching you but in a nice way and the line up quality is higher than Sharks IMHO.
I had a nice session with a girl that I know for a long time but forgot her name, but if it wasn't so late I'm sure I could have found many more, there were few nationalities, also few black girls, seems that Palace is back to the game!You know her for a long time but don't know her name?
I am sure she will love that LOL.
After avoiding Palace in the last few years, I decided to give it a try. I had enough of Sharks, after realizing that the service there is going downhill and upselling is strong also there, so I said let's give Palace a try.
And what a pleasure it was! The new layout is great, gives a feeling of a real luxury night club, great atmosphere with great music and vibe. The girls are approaching you but in a nice way and the line up quality is higher than Sharks IMHO.
I had a nice session with a girl that I know for a long time but forgot her name, but if it wasn't so late I'm sure I could have found many more, there were few nationalities, also few black girls, seems that Palace is back to the game!I confirm, I like new design and new bar, even I will miss the pool. Beautiful rooms, good foods. The place to find a wow look, I did on last Friday night, my first Venezuelan, she claimed when she is Russian type, but she has what is usual for Venezuelan women, land for many Miss Universe.
Not so many girls, but far higher level than Sharks. I think the highest level in Germany I know, when you are a beautiful women lover. Can find a few, when they are more and more rare in Germany.
If 50 for entry before 5 pm, same than Oase before 4 pm or Sharks sometimes, really good deal.
I confirm, I like new design and new bar, even I will miss the pool. Beautiful rooms, good foods. The place to find a wow look, I did on last Friday night, my first Venezuelan, she claimed when she is Russian type, but she has what is usual for Venezuelan women, land for many Miss Universe.
Not so many girls, but far higher level than Sharks. I think the highest level in Germany I know, when you are a beautiful women lover. Can find a few, when they are more and more rare in Germany.
If 50 for entry before 5 pm, same than Oase before 4 pm or Sharks sometimes, really good deal.Siri,
Venezuelan? Was her name Chloe?
Every Tuesday where the entry is 60 BTW you can stay with your clothes inside the club if you want to.
The robe is optional.
I stayed with clothes and enjoyed it more. I think I was the only one with clothes but didn't noticed much since I was all the time with one girl.Thanks. I like clothing idea if it is one session and go style of visitor, it is easy like that, but other than that, I do love convenience of just putting bath robe on after session and carry on to next session in the club.
I will be looking forward to see new set up that looks like similar layout to Artemis main bar, but if it attract more beautiful line up, then renovation would be success.
You know her for a long time but don't know her name?
I am sure she will love that LOL.Maybe he prefers not to name her, like I do for some girls because of some members or readers who have nothing better to do in clubs than showing, or reading, or telling, or even bullshiting changing meaning of your writings to girls. Some even pay time in room for this, rather than fucking the girl. Obsession and jealousy. I can t imagine going to fuck just a piece of meat, not knowing her name and where she comes from, then You can sometimes understand the claimed Russian is lying, not speaking Russian. I couldn't believe when she told me from Venezuela, when I thought Russian. I like so much when girls tell me they are from Brasov, Braila, Galats, Timisoara, Craiova, Pitesti, I m bored of fucking Bucarest, and Constanza which mean Moldavian part.
Member #4636
12-07-18, 15:31
Siri,
Venezuelan? Was her name Chloe?This Venezuelan girl also approached me on Tuesday.
She was looking nice and told me her name but I forgot it.
Maybe it was Chloe but I am not 100 % sure.
Siri,
Venezuelan? Was her name Chloe?Not the name she gave me on introduction, and never. As I wrote below, I can't and don't want to name her. At LR, even not naming, but some need to look who they are. What they don't understand is they are not me to build gold with women in bed. Then they welcome and come to me again, when don't care about making wait some, or even not going to see some.
Member #4636
12-08-18, 10:49
Maybe he prefers not to name her, like I do for some girls because of some members or readers who have nothing better to do in clubs than showing, or reading, or telling, or even bullshiting changing meaning of your writings to girls. Some even pay time in room for this, rather than fucking the girl. Obsession and jealousy. I can t imagine going to fuck just a piece of meat, not knowing her name and where she comes from, then You can sometimes understand the claimed Russian is lying, not speaking Russian. I couldn't believe when she told me from Venezuela, when I thought Russian. I like so much when girls tell me they are from Brasov, Braila, Galats, Timisoara, Craiova, Pitesti, I m bored of fucking Bucarest, and Constanza which mean Moldavian part.I can't go imagine going to fuck a piece of meat either. If I don't know the girl for a while talk and see if there is a minimum of chemistry I don't go with her. This is why I also avoid the girls that come to me with the standard 1. Hello baby what's your name 2. Where do you come from 3. Shall we go for some fun in the room?
BTW Siri I vote for Brasov.
I can't go imagine going to fuck a piece of meat either. If I don't know the girl for a while talk and see if there is a minimum of chemistry I don't go with her. This is why I also avoid the girls that come to me with the standard 1. Hello baby what's your name 2. Where do you come from 3. Shall we go for some fun in the room?
BTW Siri I vote for Brasov.For sure I also vote for Brasov, but pretty sure not for same reasons than you, but mountains for me, even I will never go, but I always dream about mountains.
I don't judge girls from where they come from, I don't care, but I hate when they lie. My favorites are Romanians, I had some of them for great GF in bed. When I see a girl, I just let go my desire or not, I don't care what can be said about her because I know I m different, if she attracts me I will just adapt to get the best from her.
About Palace, I understood if you want wow beauties, rare in Germany, but you can sometimes get at Palace, then you better not be a grocer about money, but pay for great time. As I told to my Venezuelan, she would be my only girl of the day / night. Only 1 very expensive room, but not a so expensive day visiting Sharks with no room, then Palace for a dream.
Member #4636
12-09-18, 09:20
About Palace, I understood if you want wow beauties, rare in Germany, but you can sometimes get at Palace, then you better not be a grocer about money, but pay for great time. As I told to my Venezuelan, she would be my only girl of the day / night. Only 1 very expensive room, but not a so expensive day visiting Sharks with no room, then Palace for a dream.Wow beauties can be in any club but yes once you find them be prepared to pay.
So did you take the Venezuelan for the entire night?
Wow beauties can be in any club but yes once you find them be prepared to pay.
So did you take the Venezuelan for the entire night?I didn't see any at Sharks on Friday 30 November, only Tia was really pretty for me but saying not kissing. Wow beauties, as they say at Globe, were always quite rare for my eyes in FKK land, but I found some on my FKK trip, most for only 50 for each 30 mn, one at World was the most perfect woman care I have ever seen for my whole life. But Palace is different, Globe in Germany.
After our passionate private time, Venezuelan offrered me a drink of vodka with her girlfriend, but I prefer apfelsaft. Before we discovered each other, she proposed me a threesome with her girlfriend, but not after. My girls never proposed me threesome, when they usually ask: You do the same to other girls?
I'm in town after a while (last time was August 2017).
Hoping to spend a day in palace and a day in sharks as my flight is at 4 Saturday.
I'the prefer to do sharks Thursday because place is closer so less distance for Friday night to get home if I stay til the wee hours of the night but at same time idk which day has Better line up of stunners and girls that do anal.
I expect Friday is better for both but not sure if it'll be material difference for Palace vs Sharks. I normally duck 3-5 times in a day where I stay from afternoon to late night fucking girls and don't mind spending money for longer sessions and extras long as service is good and girl hits my kinks. I love palace girls that I remember because they had more stunners that also do extras than Sharks.
Member #4636
12-10-18, 20:09
I'm in town after a while (last time was August 2017).
Hoping to spend a day in palace and a day in sharks as my flight is at 4 Saturday.
I'the prefer to do sharks Thursday because place is closer so less distance for Friday night to get home if I stay til the wee hours of the night but at same time idk which day has Better line up of stunners and girls that do anal.
I expect Friday is better for both but not sure if it'll be material difference for Palace vs Sharks. I normally duck 3-5 times in a day where I stay from afternoon to late night fucking girls and don't mind spending money for longer sessions and extras long as service is good and girl hits my kinks. I love palace girls that I remember because they had more stunners that also do extras than Sharks.From my experience the only sure thing about Palace is that there is not a lot of action before 6-7 pm, maybe now a bit better with the reduced price. I cannot say for sure which day is better I have been there some Friday nights and I didn't see much girls and I have also been a Wednesday which was better, you never know. Sharks is a more standard all time club. Regarding anal you will find a girl in sharks called Francesca she is 110 % Italian LOL!
ExpatLover
12-10-18, 22:07
I'm in town after a while (last time was August 2017).
Hoping to spend a day in palace and a day in sharks as my flight is at 4 Saturday.
I'the prefer to do sharks Thursday because place is closer so less distance for Friday night to get home if I stay til the wee hours of the night but at same time idk which day has Better line up of stunners and girls that do anal.
I expect Friday is better for both but not sure if it'll be material difference for Palace vs Sharks. I normally duck 3-5 times in a day where I stay from afternoon to late night fucking girls and don't mind spending money for longer sessions and extras long as service is good and girl hits my kinks. I love palace girls that I remember because they had more stunners that also do extras than Sharks.Most of the girls will do anal if they feel well with you especially the young one, difficult to compare a LU from 50 girls maximum mostly veteran one like in Palace to a LU of more 200 girls with far more diversity in Shark, many girls are doing anal at Shark.
Yesterday was my first and probably last visit to Palace.
Girl 1: asked for 300/60 min for GFE / BBBJ. Then I told her its too much for a girl I don't know so we agreed on 150/30 min. 10 min later she lowered the price to 200/60 min Which I agreed to. But would not allow me doggy her cause her pussy is too tig.
Girl 2: was OK. 100 E /30 min for GFE / BBBJ / tittyfk.
Girl 3: 50 E /30 CBJ / missionary only and after 10 seconds of fucking, she told me I'm "too big for her" and she would need 150 E to get her turned on enough to handle it. I just left after 7 minutes with her. I have measured the shit out of my dick. Its barely above average and all of those girls pussy feel way too loose in comparison to my ex GF.
The place: limited parking spots, low ceiling with no ventilation for smoke. Woke up the next day with sore throat and clogged nose.
ExpatLover
12-16-18, 21:12
Yesterday was my first and probably last visit to Palace.
Girl 1: asked for 300/60 min for GFE / BBBJ. Then I told her its too much for a girl I don't know so we agreed on 150/30 min. 10 min later she lowered the price to 200/60 min Which I agreed to. But would not allow me doggy her cause her pussy is too tig.
Girl 2: was OK. 100 E /30 min for GFE / BBBJ / tittyfk.
Girl 3: 50 E /30 CBJ / missionary only and after 10 seconds of fucking, she told me I'm "too big for her" and she would need 150 E to get her turned on enough to handle it. I just left after 7 minutes with her. I have measured the shit out of my dick. Its barely above average and all of those girls pussy feel way too loose in comparison to my ex GF.
The place: limited parking spots, low ceiling with no ventilation for smoke. Woke up the next day with sore throat and clogged nose.Most of us are aware that palace is a club for tourists and fair visitors, very few german regular mongers, like Artemis, Golden Time, Oase, Manhattan, Living room, also mid of the December to end of January is not the best time to get great service.
Kosher Kowboy
12-17-18, 00:51
Yesterday was my first and probably last visit to Palace.
Girl 1: asked for 300/60 min for GFE / BBBJ. Then I told her its too much for a girl I don't know so we agreed on 150/30 min. 10 min later she lowered the price to 200/60 min Which I agreed to. But would not allow me doggy her cause her pussy is too tig.
Girl 2: was OK. 100 E /30 min for GFE / BBBJ / tittyfk.
Girl 3: 50 E /30 CBJ / missionary only and after 10 seconds of fucking, she told me I'm "too big for her" and she would need 150 E to get her turned on enough to handle it. I just left after 7 minutes with her. I have measured the shit out of my dick. Its barely above average and all of those girls pussy feel way too loose in comparison to my ex GF.
The place: limited parking spots, low ceiling with no ventilation for smoke. Woke up the next day with sore throat and clogged nose.Seems like Girl 2 was the only accurate pricing per the norm at that particular club. Same as Mainhatten rates. Try Mainhatten next time if you must go to a city club, the girls are very nice there and I really have not encountered any loose pussies there at all, all provide a good grip except for November's trip when one of you guys blew out the insides of Irena pretty bad for me. However my second to last trip maybe third to last I noticed the pussies of the Sharks and Oase girls I did were all loose and blown out probably from sheer volume especially the girls doing 50's all day long. Maybe there is a loose pussy bug going around these days. As I noted elsewhere the girls in Dietzenbach have all had explosions between their legs and except for one new girl and Selena all are quite on the wide side and overly fleshy and the ones in the RLD all have huge pussies and double sized labia! I also go there in the middle of the night so not shocking.
Thanks for the report.
Member #4636
12-17-18, 06:40
Yesterday was my first and probably last visit to Palace.
Girl 1: asked for 300/60 min for GFE / BBBJ. Then I told her its too much for a girl I don't know so we agreed on 150/30 min. 10 min later she lowered the price to 200/60 min Which I agreed to. But would not allow me doggy her cause her pussy is too tig.
Girl 2: was OK. 100 E /30 min for GFE / BBBJ / tittyfk.
Girl 3: 50 E /30 CBJ / missionary only and after 10 seconds of fucking, she told me I'm "too big for her" and she would need 150 E to get her turned on enough to handle it. I just left after 7 minutes with her. I have measured the shit out of my dick. Its barely above average and all of those girls pussy feel way too loose in comparison to my ex GF.
The place: limited parking spots, low ceiling with no ventilation for smoke. Woke up the next day with sore throat and clogged nose.Thanks for your report.
Can you give us some names and description of the girls?
Dittoow. Thanks for your honest (and horrifying) report). It really helps the forum.
ExpatLover
12-17-18, 21:11
Yesterday was my first and probably last visit to Palace.
Girl 1: asked for 300/60 min for GFE / BBBJ. Then I told her its too much for a girl I don't know so we agreed on 150/30 min. 10 min later she lowered the price to 200/60 min Which I agreed to. But would not allow me doggy her cause her pussy is too tig.
Girl 2: was OK. 100 E /30 min for GFE / BBBJ / tittyfk.
Girl 3: 50 E /30 CBJ / missionary only and after 10 seconds of fucking, she told me I'm "too big for her" and she would need 150 E to get her turned on enough to handle it. I just left after 7 minutes with her. I have measured the shit out of my dick. Its barely above average and all of those girls pussy feel way too loose in comparison to my ex GF.
The place: limited parking spots, low ceiling with no ventilation for smoke. Woke up the next day with sore throat and clogged nose.If you like fresh girls having pleasure on sex better not to go in a FKK, most of the girls are faking orgasm even some mongers still believe the contrary, the girls know that some guys are feeling strong when they believe they managed to bring a girl to orgasm and so will pay more the girl, also the girls are having so much sex every day let us say 5 to 10 times, 20 days a months means 100 to 200 times a months not far from 2500 a year how can the pussy still provide great grip and that for 5 or 10 years.
You wear robe or towel still. I meaning to say my hair and face did not smell of smoke when I leave the new Palace. However, I was in room with girls most of time.Went to Palace again. This time Palace more busy and much more smoke. So much smoke I cannot enjoy main room and smoke is painful in eyes and throat. Also DJ playing very bad old American rap music from 20 year ago and too loud. And then my head smell like cigarette when I leave the club.
Will not return until Palace smoke ventilation is improve and they fix music.
Member #4636
12-20-18, 17:51
Went to Palace again. This time Palace more busy and much more smoke. So much smoke I cannot enjoy main room and smoke is painful in eyes and throat. Also DJ playing very bad old American rap music from 20 year ago and too loud. And then my head smell like cigarette when I leave the club.
Will not return until Palace smoke ventilation is improve and they fix music.I haven't seen the club really smokey since it's new look but maybe that was because I ain't seen it crowded yet either. If you think smoke is a problem in Palace you have to try Artemis haha.
ExpatLover
12-21-18, 13:45
Went to Palace again. This time Palace more busy and much more smoke. So much smoke I cannot enjoy main room and smoke is painful in eyes and throat. Also DJ playing very bad old American rap music from 20 year ago and too loud. And then my head smell like cigarette when I leave the club.
Will not return until Palace smoke ventilation is improve and they fix music.I never understood how the German authorities are accepting that, it should be forbidden to smoke inside Palace, probably one of the police chief must be a regular client there getting great sessions for free.
Dittoow. Thanks for your honest (and horrifying) report). It really helps the forum.Don't remember much.
Girl 1: Veronica or Victoria. Late 20's or early 30's. Orange / black hair long or red / black hair long. Slightly fat.
Girl 2: early 20's short silicon everywhere. Square face.
Girl 3: 21. Speaks perfect English. Claims to be an English major college student.
I usually go there at around 6 pm but had read about the reduced entry before 5 pm so got there just in the nick of time and paid E50 entry. Palace doesn't generally get going until the evening so lounged around for a couple of hours. The place has been refurbished. Personally I preferred the old set-up which seemed warm and sensual rather than the cold and sleek look. Also preferred it when it was non-smoking. But of course the main attraction at any club is always the girls and the quality and quantity generally remains consistent at Palace. There were perhaps 50 or so girls and general quality was good albeit a lot of familiar faces so have already ticked off most of the girls I wanted.
The Palace line-up is generally more diverse than Sharks and Oase in terms of looks and ages. The mind is a funny thing. I always want my amateurs to look like working girls and my pros to look like amateurs and there is a greater proportion of that type in Palace.
1. Lisa: My first girl was a bit on the chunky size with big tits. Buxom brunette with a deep tan. She claimed to be half Moroccan and half Romanian which I took to mean gypsy. She gave a good sell and said all the right things but she was a disappointment. She said she wanted E50 for BBJ and because I was feeling a bit jaded, I wasn't up for a shag and only wanted to be sucked off anyway and in those circumstances I've always been happy to finish with CIM if I have a decent load in the bank, so we agreed to that basis. I also told her I preferred an hour so she should take it slow.
However, she was generally inept. Little in the way of foreplay and her blowjob was mediocre with little skill or application. I kept an eye on my watch and at the 30 min mark decided to call it quits even though I hadn't shot as I would have struggled with her and in any event I didn't want to waste it with her. I agreed I'd give her E100 as although I only wanted to give her extra with CIM she had made it clear BBJ would attract a surcharge.
I must say that in both Palace and Sharks (and I assume in Oase), many girls are now asking for an extra E50 for BBJ. My own take is that for a 30 min session its too expensive though a one hour session at E150 with BBJ (and FK and DATY if they are important to you) still represents good value but I don't want to commit to a 1 hour session until I know the girl provides good service. But a E50 surcharge in a short session is too much. From my days visiting the famous but now closed Sandys in Manchester, England, BBJ was an extra £10 which seemed fair but I dare say the market will correct itself. E100.
Katherine: I definitely need a palate cleanser and there are 3-4 girls I always see if they're on at Palace and Katherine is on off them. Looks wise both facially and body she is my type. She is pretty, auburn / brownish hair, slightly upturned nose, tall, slim and nice shapely figure. She has a glamorous air hostess look which I've always been partial to. She is always confident and fun in the room and also reads this forum (Hi Katherine!
I usually have her in a threesome (this is the 7th time I've now seen her) but I wasn't keen on her suggestions and she warned me off my preferred choice for being a money grabber. So decided to have a one-on-one and it was a lovely, relaxed, sensual one hour and I finished doing her in missionary. I do hope she's still around next time. E100.
Danielle and Bianca: Another one of my Palace favourites is Danielle who is a lovely girl and is fairly tall, slim brunette with a deep tan and huge fake knockers (the other two I always see if they are there are Sanziana / Marie who is a porcelain skinned brunette with a slight Eurasian look and huge fake knockers and slim, small tit blonde Katerina albeit I haven't seen her since 2017). As with Katherine, she always provides exquisite service and would also be in my Top 15 All-time FKK girls which might not sound a huge compliment but I've been with 180 now! Again, I tend to have a threesome with her and was happy with her suggestion.
Bianca was a youngish, slim brunette with long hair and pale skin. Natural small but perky tits and porcelain skin. She was wearing black stockings which are always welcome in my world.
Another good hour. Slow, relaxed session with lots of foreplay, them taking turns to suck me off, a double header. Did them both in doggy for a while and then had a rest in between. Second half more pampering though Bianca had to leave for a bit as she was going to be sick from drinking too much. When she returned I was on the verge as Danielle had got me on the brink and I soon finished. E200.
I didn't loiter around. Although I normally have 3 shots a night, I knew I was done and was sated. Overall, rather like Sharks the night before, there was one bad session but otherwise another memorable night.
Vito Corleone
12-23-18, 07:36
I usually go there at around 6 pm but had read about the reduced entry before 5 pm so got there just in the nick of time and paid E50 entry. Palace doesn't generally get going until the evening so lounged around for a couple of hours. The place has been refurbished. Personally I preferred the old set-up which seemed warm and sensual rather than the cold and sleek look. Also preferred it when it was non-smoking. But of course the main attraction at any club is always the girls and the quality and quantity generally remains consistent at Palace. There were perhaps 50 or so girls and general quality was good albeit a lot of familiar faces so have already ticked off most of the girls I wanted.
The Palace line-up is generally more diverse than Sharks and Oase in terms of looks and ages. The mind is a funny thing. I always want my amateurs to look like working girls and my pros to look like amateurs and there is a greater proportion of that type in Palace..Great report! Katherine is one of my favorites at Palace!
Any idea if Nadia young Russian is working right now? Just heard that she moved from sharks to palace. Had a great session with her at Sharks and would love to see her in this visit.
Someone had mentioned that she was going back to college in the sharks forum.
Hi all. Have previously visited the main FKKs in area but has been two years since last visit.
I have a stopover from 10 am to 7 pm. What would be the best FKK to visit?
Appreciate any advice.
Member #4636
01-08-19, 07:40
Hi all. Have previously visited the main FKKs in area but has been two years since last visit.
I have a stopover from 10 am to 7 pm. What would be the best FKK to visit?
Appreciate any advice.Considering the time you have the stopover IMO the best would be to visit Sharks. There is not much action in Palace before 7 pm.
Take the bus air directly from the airport and go to Daarsmtadt and do the same way back. The cub opens at 11 am.
Sebastiane
01-09-19, 20:07
Thank you for a great report Be Wilder! Palace was my first FKK club and I was a regular for 3 years as I used to live in Frankfurt! I haven't been back since 2015 but I am tempted to revisit though now it would be a much longer journey to get there instead of just jumping on the U6/7!
I have fond memories of the place and, personally, have never had a problem getting exactly what I want but I don't insist on the 50/30 anymore! For 100-150/60 I get all my needs fulfilled.
I'm curious to see the refurbishment too. I doubt if any girls from 2015 are still working there but you never know!
Katherine and Bianca sound great! Palace has always had beautiful girls. And the food is always amongst the best of any FKK.
Sebastiane
01-09-19, 20:55
Hi,
I just visited the new Palace website and wondered if this girl (see attached pics) is an actual girl who works at Palace or just a model for the website? Also what days are now fully nude FKK Days?
ExpatLover
01-10-19, 01:54
Thank you for a great report Be Wilder! Palace was my first FKK club and I was a regular for 3 years as I used to live in Frankfurt! I haven't been back since 2015 but I am tempted to revisit though now it would be a much longer journey to get there instead of just jumping on the U6/7!
I have fond memories of the place and, personally, have never had a problem getting exactly what I want but I don't insist on the 50/30 anymore! For 100-150/60 I get all my needs fulfilled.
I'm curious to see the refurbishment too. I doubt if any girls from 2015 are still working there but you never know!
Katherine and Bianca sound great! Palace has always had beautiful girls. And the food is always amongst the best of any FKK.But not very friendly staff, and also no garden, which songs terrible in summer time, and also quite overpriced, it is more or less a tourist and fair visitor club.
Member #4636
01-10-19, 18:33
Hi,
I just visited the new Palace website and wondered if this girl (see attached pics) is an actual girl who works at Palace or just a model for the website? Also what days are now fully nude FKK Days?She is everywhere on their website but I have never seen her working.
BTW things have changed I don't think that you will get fulfilled for 100/60 anymore, the food is still great though.
She is everywhere on their website but I have never seen her working.
BTW things have changed I don't think that you will get fulfilled for 100/60 anymore, the food is still great though.I saw prettier girls working at Palace on my last visits.
Is Angelique from Russia (40+ years) still there and on which days?
Is Angelique from Russia (40+ years) still there and on which days?Oh Mein Got: She was one of my first FKK sessions, like way back in 2001/2 at Atlantis. Seriously this woman is still in the game after all these years? Why not? There's another one of the original Atlantis girls working these days at Sharks: Heidi from Czech, not sure she goes by that name any more.
Kosher Kowboy
01-11-19, 14:31
I'll be bouncing around the FRA area next week and need to adjust my clubs as Day Care is too thin a LU too many tripods and overfucked women and the women I want most are on holiday now so stuck with scraps until the trip after this. Germans boards, this board and first hand reports up until last night all stink. To be expected, same as last year. Gypsies can wait another month. Last January the Sharks ate all my money and they very well may again but I am willing to give the Palace girls a shot.
Simple question here and hoping to get a Palace regular to answer, someone who actually goes and knows not one who has read or heard. One who has paid, not one who has read of what others paid.
Does the pricing at this club on 30 and 60 min sessions mirror Mainhatten? Mainhatten has cheaters and a 50 BBBJ for 30 or 100 hour with BBBJ still exists but you have to hunt or be good or known. However, the majority of the sessions offered here remain 100430 if you want BBBJ and 150460 if you want BBBJ. DATY / DFK etc all get tossed in the mixed but the framework still is BBBJ 100430 and 150460.
Is Palace the same? All I want to really know is the basic framework of the BBBJ 30/60 min session not ' this is a tourist club' or ' Girls get greedier at Messe time' etc. ; that I know already just the bare bones basic is all I seek here.
The rest I can figure out and wing it on my own.
Member #4636
01-11-19, 19:03
I'll be bouncing around the FRA area next week and need to adjust my clubs as Day Care is too thin a LU too many tripods and overfucked women and the women I want most are on holiday now so stuck with scraps until the trip after this. Germans boards, this board and first hand reports up until last night all stink. To be expected, same as last year. Gypsies can wait another month. Last January the Sharks ate all my money and they very well may again but I am willing to give the Palace girls a shot.
Simple question here and hoping to get a Palace regular to answer, someone who actually goes and knows not one who has read or heard. One who has paid, not one who has read of what others paid.
Does the pricing at this club on 30 and 60 min sessions mirror Mainhatten? Mainhatten has cheaters and a 50 BBBJ for 30 or 100 hour with BBBJ still exists but you have to hunt or be good or known. However, the majority of the sessions offered here remain 100430 if you want BBBJ and 150460 if you want BBBJ. DATY / DFK etc all get tossed in the mixed but the framework still is BBBJ 100430 and 150460..Hey KK,
I have been 8-9 times over the past 9 months so I consider myself as regular. I would say it is similar to Mainhatten but like all clubs it also depends on the girl. I can tell you for I hour because I have never done 30 minutes session. You will get the basic BBBJ and sex and keep adding 50 if you go for extra. DATY is usually extra and CIM is also extra but if you ask both you have I would say 60 % chances to get them for 150. So I would say 150/ hour is the most common to get BBBJ-DATY-CIM but a few ladies would ask 200 for that as well, so there you have to make your choice. So yes it does mirror Manhattan IMO not to mention that in Mainhatten I have experienced less upselling.
Happy hunting!
For my few experiences, many GND at Palace like in any German club, but sometimes 1 or 2 top beauties You don't see often in Germany, like Julia or Venezuelan. Then, if You want to enjoy these beauties, you have to pay, but less expensive for me than 30 for a ugly AO girl or 50 for a GND. I prefer to pay more expensive for higher level, why I prefer Globe on this Winter, when Germany is so average for beauties.
Hi,
I just visited the new Palace website and wondered if this girl (see attached pics) is an actual girl who works at Palace or just a model for the website? Also what days are now fully nude FKK Days?I've followed Palace for awhile and none of their promotional models are ever the women who work there.
FunExplorer
01-12-19, 16:28
I'll be bouncing around the FRA area next week and need to adjust my clubs as Day Care is too thin a LU too many tripods and overfucked women and the women I want most are on holiday now so stuck with scraps until the trip after this. Germans boards, this board and first hand reports up until last night all stink. To be expected, same as last year. Gypsies can wait another month. Last January the Sharks ate all my money and they very well may again but I am willing to give the Palace girls a shot.
Simple question here and hoping to get a Palace regular to answer, someone who actually goes and knows not one who has read or heard. One who has paid, not one who has read of what others paid.
Does the pricing at this club on 30 and 60 min sessions mirror Mainhatten? Mainhatten has cheaters and a 50 BBBJ for 30 or 100 hour with BBBJ still exists but you have to hunt or be good or known. However, the majority of the sessions offered here remain 100430 if you want BBBJ and 150460 if you want BBBJ. DATY / DFK etc all get tossed in the mixed but the framework still is BBBJ 100430 and 150460.
Is Palace the same? All I want to really know is the basic framework of the BBBJ 30/60 min session not ' this is a tourist club' or ' Girls get greedier at Messe time' etc. ; that I know already just the bare bones basic is all I seek here.
The rest I can figure out and wing it on my own.I was in Palace for three days in October and three days in April last year. Cannot consider to be a regular. However, in my experience, most girls are okay with E 100 for BBJ and DFK and DATY for an hour CIM would of course comes with extra E 50. But the girls here are more diversified and friendly than in other clubs. I did not find cartels like in Sharks. May be you can negotiate CIM for E 100 if its 30 minutes. Have not tried myself though.
For my few experiences, many GND at Palace like in any German club, but sometimes 1 or 2 top beauties You don't see often in Germany, like Julia or Venezuelan. Then, if You want to enjoy these beauties, you have to pay, but less expensive for me than 30 for a ugly AO girl or 50 for a GND. I prefer to pay more expensive for higher level, why I prefer Globe on this Winter, when Germany is so average for beauties.Problem is more the spread out of the beauties in Germany is larger. If you had shrunk the top 10 German clubs into 3 clubs, only bringing in the prettiest, the lineups would easily compare to Wellcum and I assume also Globe. So if one want the same amount of top options, Germany can mean club hopping and paying double entry fees and more in travel cost. On the other hand, having top girls spread more out between clubs can also mean less reason to get jealousy and complications. It is a give or take. I can stay a week at a time at Wellcum. But the current amount of German clubs I can stay at just 4 consecutive days is not very large.
Problem is more the spread out of the beauties in Germany is larger. If you had shrunk the top 10 German clubs into 3 clubs, only bringing in the prettiest, the lineups would easily compare to Wellcum and I assume also Globe. So if one want the same amount of top options, Germany can mean club hopping and paying double entry fees and more in travel cost. On the other hand, having top girls spread more out between clubs can also mean less reason to get jealousy and complications. It is a give or take. I can stay a week at a time at Wellcum. But the current amount of German clubs I can stay at just 4 consecutive days is not very large.Not my experiences. For my eyes, Wellcum casting was really good on August 2017, with exceptional Lena for me, red hair Daria and her brunette friend, another very pretty brunette sitting just on the left when entering lounge, with Maia, Roxana silicon ex Sharks was not even busy, but Wellcum casting was a bit average on August 2018 for me, despite fire in bed, little doll always saying what the fuck, when chicken skin or wet in bed. I preferred Marina casting for super sexy Mila who became a woman in bed for me, with tears in her eyes, really enjoyable to experience how she changed for our 1 h30. Just examples about what You also saw, but in Germany I can go to NRW or Hessen, I receive information from guys who know I look for beauties, but except at Palace, my last wow girl in Germany was discovered on beginning of September, when I m in Germany every week end. On Friday 30 November which is good time because girls want to make money before Christmas, I couldn't find a attractive girl at big Sharks among maybe 80 girls. I don t care if 80 or even 200 as say some girls, my own experience was not to find 1 girl for who I felt I want her as soon I saw her. Only Tia but she killed my desire, even smiling, but saying: Sorry but I don t kiss, so not for my pleasure. And Sharks is said to be the best casting in Hessen, but I preferred to see 2 beauties when I moved to Palace. On my many last visits at GT, most of time, I m not able to find any other attractive girl than Kate. On this Thursday, we finished our room for new year at 6. 30 pm, meeting on 5 different years since 2015 , after her I ate, ate again and ate pizzas at 10.30 pm, but left so bored at 11 pm when I usually stay until 1 am. When lovely Tatjana asked me about my visit, I answered: Fortunately, as most often, Kate is here because only her for me. I m surprised when I read about good castings at Sharks or GT, not my last experiences, but I know I m more picky and demanding for look and behavior. I also know some girls are still on holidays, but I wish for beginning of next month, to see new beauties. I m not so demanding, I just need 1 and I can enjoy only with her. Even Globe casting is not exceptional on this Winter, but a real pleasure to have the German superstar staying with me for more than 6 hours, having diner, when we were in room for 2 h15, but she might want I would repeat like on our discovery, and my best was Rebeka discovery for a rare experience with her even she is not new in business, but so woman for love in bed. At least, I had high level in bed with lovely, pretty girls at Globe.
CoolManFever
01-13-19, 19:53
Hello all,
I will be visiting Frankfurt for 3 nights. 1st night I plan to hit up FKK Oase and 2nd night I plan to hit up FKK shark.
3rd night I can either hit up FKK Shark or FKK palace, and go straight to airport until closing.
Do you guys think it is worth it to visit FKK Palace if I already visited FKK Shark?
What time does FKK Palace close? Does FKK Palace offer bag check in and how much? Does FKK palace have taxi onsite? Thank you so much.
FunExplorer
01-14-19, 11:42
Hello all,
I will be visiting Frankfurt for 3 nights. 1st night I plan to hit up FKK Oase and 2nd night I plan to hit up FKK shark.
3rd night I can either hit up FKK Shark or FKK palace, and go straight to airport until closing.
Do you guys think it is worth it to visit FKK Palace if I already visited FKK Shark?
What time does FKK Palace close? Does FKK Palace offer bag check in and how much? Does FKK palace have taxi onsite? Thank you so much.I recommend Palace. It is worth visiting. Go through below reports from seniors. Palace closes at 4 AM on weekdays and 5 AM on weekends. You do get taxis at all FKK clubs and there is no problem. Reasonable luggage can be taken. Check at reception.
Not my experiences. For my eyes, Wellcum casting was really good on August 2017, with exceptional Lena for me, red hair Daria and her brunette friend, another very pretty brunette sitting just on the left when entering lounge, with Maia, Roxana silicon ex Sharks was not even busy, but Wellcum casting was a bit average on August 2018 for me, despite fire in bed, little doll always saying what the fuck, when chicken skin or wet in bed. I preferred Marina casting for super sexy Mila who became a woman in bed for me, with tears in her eyes, really enjoyable to experience how she changed for our 1 h30. Just examples about what You also saw, but in Germany I can go to NRW or Hessen, I receive information from guys who know I look for beauties, but except at Palace, my last wow girl in Germany was discovered on beginning of September, when I m in Germany every week end. On Friday 30 November which is good time because girls want to make money before Christmas, I couldn't find a attractive girl at big Sharks among maybe 80 girls. I don t care if 80 or even 200 as say some girls, my own experience was not to find 1 girl for who I felt I want her as soon I saw her. Only Tia but she killed my desire, even smiling, but saying: Sorry but I don t kiss, so not for my pleasure..1. Oase has better optics in general than Sharks hands down. Not even a question a sane person would say against. There is a handful of comparably hot sharks girls too, although I suppose they are too short for your preference. And some days all the top sharks girls are away, while at Oase the top girls have a much higher attendance ratio. For example, two of the top sharks girls I know works like 2 days a month.
2. You went to Wellcum in August 2017 and August 2018. Indeed it had a better lineup in August 2017. But reading the Italian forum, there is a new guy in charge of recruitment, and it has helped a bit. Lineup from veniamo looks better now than it was last summer. The best lineup I've seen at Wellcum was March last year. Even better than Aug. 2017. So it goes up and down like everywhere else too.
1. Oase has better optics in general than Sharks hands down. Not even a question a sane person would say against. There is a handful of comparably hot sharks girls too, although I suppose they are too short for your preference. And some days all the top sharks girls are away, while at Oase the top girls have a much higher attendance ratio. For example, two of the top sharks girls I know works like 2 days a month.
2. You went to Wellcum in August 2017 and August 2018. Indeed it had a better lineup in August 2017. But reading the Italian forum, there is a new guy in charge of recruitment, and it has helped a bit. Lineup from veniamo looks better now than it was last summer. The best lineup I've seen at Wellcum was March last year. Even better than Aug. 2017. So it goes up and down like everywhere else too.I don't agree, even Sharks is not anymore what was casting from 2014 to 2016, but at least I found a wow top class woman type on mid June of last year, elegance even for her shoes, charm, and lovely, one of my best on 2018 even only seen on 3 days with 2 breakfast together, when she left Sharks after less than 2 weeks. I don't remember such elegance and charm seen at Oase, where my last girls were pretty face Vera, and Adela on February and March of last year, among really average casting for me. There is a small pretty brunette but not even 40 kgs, not a woman body, and model type Katrin. Bu was average face for me, even blue eyes. At least at Sharks, I see sometimes woman types, when Oase is little girls land.
I saw few interesting woman types at Palace. I prefer woman types, I m too old for kindergarten.
Hi guys,
I have a q for you. Haven't been in saunaclubs for long now. Maybe 2 years. When you write that you have BBBJ with a girl in a room are you referring to get a BJ without condom? Because I've heard about the new rules and I see also the topics about the girls asking now for more. Is this because of this?
Also can you find some good girl at Sharks around afternoon? Planning a visit next Tuesday.
FunExplorer
01-17-19, 17:16
Hi guys,
I have a q for you. Haven't been in saunaclubs for long now. Maybe 2 years. When you write that you have BBBJ with a girl in a room are you referring to get a BJ without condom? Because I've heard about the new rules and I see also the topics about the girls asking now for more. Is this because of this?
Also can you find some good girl at Sharks around afternoon? Planning a visit next Tuesday.When you say you haven't been to a club in the last two years, you meant you were earlier? It is surprising then you don't know about BBBJ. See abbreviations on top. FYI it means BJ without condom. Yes after the new law girls are demanding more usually E 50 extra. Of course this is illegal.
So far as girls in the afternoon at Sharks or elsewhere tend to be fewer unless you are super lucky. Things get better by evening.
ExpatLover
01-17-19, 21:06
Hi guys,
I have a q for you. Haven't been in saunaclubs for long now. Maybe 2 years. When you write that you have BBBJ with a girl in a room are you referring to get a BJ without condom? Because I've heard about the new rules and I see also the topics about the girls asking now for more. Is this because of this?
Also can you find some good girl at Sharks around afternoon? Planning a visit next Tuesday.You are a joker?
DesiDilruba
01-22-19, 03:39
Hey All.
I will be traveling to Frankfuet next week and want to experience adult fun. I am more interested in DFK, deep kissing and body to body play etc.
Do FKK allow full sex as well or its just BBBJ / CIM only?
Is there any place where I can get cute looking transgenders like bangcock?
Thanks in advance for answers.
RomanEmperor
01-25-19, 09:38
Even having no session with ladies because of being no my favorite at this time, receptionists seem to be very alert of customer's views on issues such as ladies attitude, food, amenities, and etc. Looking good for me such a reception can be better in any service in this venue. I hope the Palace may not become winter palace residing a monster that causes nobody to visit.
TejaIdharHai
01-26-19, 12:57
Hey Guys.
I'm planning to try out FKK club in Frankfurt.
Let me know if anyone is looking to join.
Haven't posted in a while.
Was in palace on a Saturday, arrived before 17:00 so paid 50 EUR entrance, but then you don't get a beer / long drink included.
As it was early for Palace at 17 o'clock the male to female ratio wasn't great but it changed around 20-21 PM.
Cannot say that I am a huge fan of the new layout of Palace, especially as a non-smoker not that fond of stinking of cigarette smoke no matter where you sit around the bar.
First session:
Alise, Latina, 30 min 50 EUR. Good starting session, Alise (spelling?) has natural breasts and the curves of Latin america. No complaints here, she is sensual and aims to please.
Second session:
Natasha, 30-40 min 100 EUR. Been with Natasha before, she was wearing a headband with cat ears which was funny. All naturale, she is super sarcastic which I like a lot. Bit of upselling in the room but it's more a joke than anything, if you say yes she'll hold you to it and if you say no you'll still have a good time. As with any girl, performance depends on mood but this night it was great for me and I would definitely repeat.
Third session:
Sugar, 30 minutes 50 EUR. Said she's half Venezuelan and half american. Fun girl, good session. Great ass.
Fourth session:
Aida (may have misunderstood name) Hungarian, 30 minutes 50 EUR. Said she's 30+ but still a great body. Fake tits. I don't mind the enhancements and she was super enthusiastic in the room, good performance overall.
Decent food, interesting layout with the long bar and couches overlooking the area. Cannot say I am a huge fan of the club with the smoking. If you hold out and don't go for the girls that go up to every guy there are great girls in the club (maybe those girls also perform great service, I chose not to go with them as it was more like "hey my name X let's go to the room" and I at least like to talk more than 15 seconds). My opinion may differ to others as I am not a huge fan of DFK and GFE, as such it was not something I pushed for in the room, and I was content if it was not offered.
According to my last Hessen visits, Palace is really the highest level club around Frankfurt for me. At least, could see some pretty, attractive girls there, and had high level in bed. I like the new design and round bar like at Sharks. Very good point for entry 50 before 5 pm, even slow before 7/8 pm, but can take time to eat, drink and prepare to be ready to try to find a wow girl, I got one on 30 November night after moving from Sharks, so rare in Germany at the moment. Good foods at Palace, also at Sharks.
... receptionists seem to be very alert of customer's views on issues
.On Thursday when leaving the club at 11 pm a friend and me even were asked if there is interest to get a 25 Euro discount valid for the next day so that also after 5 pm the entry fee would have been a reduced one. A really nice attitude.
Food was great, on arrival at 2:30 pm and also in the evening after 7 pm. Arriving after 4 pm there is a gap until 7 pm with some plates of bakery products.
Line-up and customers in the afternoon both were decent. In the evening the smoking atmosphere makes it hard for non-smokers to feel well at all.
Member #4636
01-28-19, 22:37
On Thursday when leaving the club at 11 pm a friend and me even were asked if there is interest to get a 25 Euro discount valid for the next day so that also after 5 pm the entry fee would have been a reduced one. A really nice attitude..It is called business.
Sebastiane
01-28-19, 23:54
I miss Palace! Even though I'm currently enamored of Globe in Switzerland, Palace was my first ever FKK club and I was a regular for years there. Though now I doubt a single girl from those days is still working (though I wouldn't bet against Gina who used to have the blonde pornstar look down pat! I think she was Czech?
Anyway I need to go back to see how it's changed since I was last there in 2010 (except for one last visit in 2015 which was great!) and since the refurbishment. Do they have an FKK day where girls are fully nude? I seem to recall most girls were mostly fully nude back in the good ole days of Indira, Saskia, Natascha, Sandra, Saskia, Martha, Sandra, Camilla. Sigh! Although things might have changed.
Is the rate, in theory at least, still 50/30? Or is 150/60 more likely to get you the classic DFK / BBBJ / GV combo?
And who are the Top Girls nowadays? Is the food still excellent? Are the slot machines still there and the whirlpool? How about the glass room for smoking?
Nostalgia attack!
I miss Palace! Even though I'm currently enamored of Globe in Switzerland, Palace was my first ever FKK club and I was a regular for years there. Though now I doubt a single girl from those days is still working (though I wouldn't bet against Gina who used to have the blonde pornstar look down pat! I think she was Czech?
Anyway I need to go back to see how it's changed since I was last there in 2010 (except for one last visit in 2015 which was great!) and since the refurbishment. Do they have an FKK day where girls are fully nude? I seem to recall most girls were mostly fully nude back in the good ole days of Indira, Saskia, Natascha, Sandra, Saskia, Martha, Sandra, Camilla. Sigh! Although things might have changed.
Is the rate, in theory at least, still 50/30? Or is 150/60 more likely to get you the classic DFK / BBBJ / GV combo?
And who are the Top Girls nowadays? Is the food still excellent? Are the slot machines still there and the whirlpool? How about the glass room for smoking?
Nostalgia attack!From my last months in Germany, at GT, LR, Samya, Sharks, even at YY or 6 ens NL, only Palace can compete a bit with Globe for few high level looks. At Globe, usually not more than 5 girls are attractive for me, Megan is pretty for me even she was prettier when she started at Mainhattan, Aylin less pretty like Marta at Harmony, Joana. De is not a exceptional beauty but so lovely in and out of the room. On our last time, she stayed about 3 hours with me, we had diner together, after we finished shower together, but she was sexier for me in blond. Sometimes at Palace, mostly on Friday or Saturday, can see prettier girls, for sure You won t get them for 50, You have to make the job before and in room, but beautiful rooms and such beauties are motivating.
Good foods, good drinks, I like the new design even I miss the pool.
The highest level in Germany, with entry only 50 before 5 pm. Very friendly staff.
Hi guys,
I have never been to FKK Palace before.
How is it on a Tuesday evening? Is the lineup any good on Tuesday evenings?
Thanks.
Hi guys,
I have never been to FKK Palace before.
How is it on a Tuesday evening? Is the lineup any good on Tuesday evenings?
Thanks.I would also like to know. Heads up they're advertising that Tuesdays are street clothes days now. Anyone know if the Yvette there is the former Sharks-Mainhattan Yvette?
Member #4636
02-01-19, 06:38
I would also like to know. Heads up they're advertising that Tuesdays are street clothes days now. Anyone know if the Yvette there is the former Sharks-Mainhattan Yvette?It is not street clothes anymore on Tuesdays. Clients didn't like it so they stopped it.
Thursday night was a very quiet night BTW not much action.
RomanEmperor
02-02-19, 08:24
Hi guys,
I have never been to FKK Palace before.
How is it on a Tuesday evening? Is the lineup any good on Tuesday evenings?
Thanks.In my experience, not too bad or not too good may be in reality. Who knows you can find hidden jewel.
Anyone know if the Yvette there is the former Sharks-Mainhattan Yvette?Yep is the former Mainhattan, Sharks Yvette, already some month at Palace. Still highest level performance.
Smoke at Palace after renovation terrible.
Yep is the former Mainhattan, Sharks Yvette, already some month at Palace. Still highest level performance.
Smoke at Palace after renovation terrible.Thanks for the info. I do remember you also being a fan. I have not seen her since Sharks so perhaps I will see her.
What happened to the first bar in palace right next to where the money box is? Is that area still remain more quiet bar or?
If they destroyed it, then what became of that area?
What happened to the first bar in palace right next to where the money box is? Is that area still remain more quiet bar or?
If they destroyed it, then what became of that area?Only 1 round bar in lounge center now, like at Sharks, but with few girls who are far prettier.
Only 1 round bar in lounge center now, like at Sharks, but with few girls who are far prettier.Line up being good is good news, so there are no chairs or sofa to sit in that big space front of safety money box was where the girl come out from changing room by restaurant?
Member #4636
02-06-19, 18:29
Line up being good is good news, so there are no chairs or sofa to sit in that big space front of safety money box was where the girl come out from changing room by restaurant?Where the small bar was there is nothing now.
Maybe one slot but I can't remember well I never notice but 100 % no bar.
Only one big bar purple lights and it is still dark.
That small place looks empty actually maybe they do something in the future there.
Food is still nice in the club and some days there are nice girls but you never know which those days are.
Line up being good is good news, so there are no chairs or sofa to sit in that big space front of safety money box was where the girl come out from changing room by restaurant?Still good restaurant, girls lockers, men lockers and money lockers on entry, but no more small bar. New big round bar with beautiful design in the lounge with sofas around. No more pool, new sofas area, but still beautiful rooms. Sometimes can find real beauties, you don't see many in other Hessen clubs, but not for 50. Cheap entry 50 before 5 pm.
Sometimes can find real beauties, you don't see many in other Hessen clubs, but not for 50. I recently visited Palace, after many years of avoiding it, just out of interest and specifically to assess (to my own tastes) whether the current Palace LU actually contained (again: to my tastes) girls / women of "superior" beauty quality than, say, Sharks or Oase, where I've been a fairly frequent visitor over the past few years. I visited on Monday 28.01 between 19-22.30, and, although it was a Monday night, it was also in the height of a multi-Messe event in FFM. My reaction:
Whilst I found the renovation of the bar area to be quite nice, and the food was decent, etc. , when it came to the girls in the LU (what really matters to me, at least), I found some disappointment, really. After 2 hours+ of observing the girls and interacting with several girls in chat-up situations, I actually didn't find the LU to be any different in beauty quality than any of the other big Hessen clubs. In fact, I thought on an optical level, it was perhaps a small notch below the better looking girls at Oase or Sharks. I saw nobody who caused my loins to scream: "I've got to have that!" So add he Hessen standard optics in the Palace LU to the well-known higher pricing and lower service characteristics of this club, plus the slightly higher Entry Fee: I think you can get better value at other clubs in the area.
Of course all of this is subjective and depends on individual taste, etc. , but whilst some might recommend this club for its LU, I personally would call the LU on the same general level as anywhere else.
One thing that surprised me is when one girl came up to me and said: "I recognise you from another club a few years ago." She looked vaguely familiar, and it turned out to be the curvaceous Carla, who worked for a several years at World, then a briefer stint at Oase, before (apparently) ending up here at Palace for the latter years (one suspects) of her FKK career. I didn't see any other girls (like, for example, the famous ex-Sharks Roxanna) who I could recognise from other clubs or, indeed, from the earlier years, when I used to attend Palace more frequently.
Yes, I might in the future give the club another look, but based on my late January '19 visit, I found the place a slightly underwhelming.
I recently visited Palace, after many years of avoiding it, just out of interest and specifically to assess (to my own tastes) whether the current Palace LU actually contained (again: to my tastes) girls / women of "superior" beauty quality than, say, Sharks or Oase, where I've been a fairly frequent visitor over the past few years. I visited on Monday 28.01 between 19-22.30, and, although it was a Monday night, it was also in the height of a multi-Messe event in FFM. My reaction:
Whilst I found the renovation of the bar area to be quite nice, and the food was decent, etc. , when it came to the girls in the LU (what really matters to me, at least), I found some disappointment, really. After 2 hours+ of observing the girls and interacting with several girls in chat-up situations, I actually didn't find the LU to be any different in beauty quality than any of the other big Hessen clubs. In fact, I thought on an optical level, it was perhaps a small notch below the better looking girls at Oase or Sharks. I saw nobody who caused my loins to scream: "I've got to have that!" So add he Hessen standard optics in the Palace LU to the well-known higher pricing and lower service characteristics of this club, plus the slightly higher Entry Fee: I think you can get better value at other clubs in the area..Even on messe, if you visit on Monday, I can't say anything. My last visits at Sharks were on 50 entry Wednesday, Friday or Saturday. Couldn't find beauties for me at Sharks when I found when I moved to Palace on a Friday night. Good foods for me at Sharks, but since Summer, nothing else to enjoy to taste. I prefer only 1 beauty, rather than 100 GND, I prefer quality and had good level for looks and in bed.
Still good restaurant, girls lockers, men lockers and money lockers on entry, but no more small bar. New big round bar with beautiful design in the lounge with sofas around. No more pool, new sofas area, but still beautiful rooms. Sometimes can find real beauties, you don't see many in other Hessen clubs, but not for 50. Cheap entry 50 before 5 pm.Is 50 entry every day before 5 pm.
Ortos. Thanks for your dispassionate report. Cheers.
RomanEmperor
02-07-19, 22:24
Is 50 entry every day before 5 pm.Yes. Definitely. Good customer service now.
Yes. Definitely. Good customer service now.I always found customer service from management side in FKK Palace being good, but it is just that girls upsell has been very aggressive upsell in FKK palace always.
I also think that good management in FKK is controlling some kind order in FKK, but most clubs failed to do that and girls do what they want, only exception are some NRW FKKs, where there still are fair price rule for both girls and clients.
Yes. Definitely. Good customer service now.For club services, I prefer Sharks, but for pretty girls, Palace seem more on my level now, where I can find few attractive girls, I don t see anymore at Sharks. No more Megan, Ilka, Florentina, Karin, Agnes. Pol.
Member #4636
02-08-19, 18:13
Yes. Definitely. Good customer service now.I can't see how an offer makes a customer service good or bad.
All clubs have similar offers.
The Tuesday entry with clothes for men had been cancelled does this mean bad customer service?
Vienna2017
02-08-19, 19:06
Gentlemen,
I have yet to go to an FKK in Frankfurt, Germany. (1) Can someone speak on the quality of the Frankfurt establishments? (2) What is the mix between locals and tourists as to the male guests? My experience is that tourist establishments are overpriced scams.
Live in Palace for their 15th birthday. On the look out for SirIoja's Venezuelan. Anyone have a description on what she looks like? If I hit a dead end, will probably fuck Mia from Serbia instead.
Howie.
Live in Palace for their 15th birthday. On the look out for SirIoja's Venezuelan. Anyone have a description on what she looks like? If I hit a dead end, will probably fuck Mia from Serbia instead.
Howie.I went with Venezuelan girl named Chloe few years back, some upsell, but great service in room.
Member #4636
02-09-19, 06:35
Live in Palace for their 15th birthday. On the look out for SirIoja's Venezuelan. Anyone have a description on what she looks like? If I hit a dead end, will probably fuck Mia from Serbia instead.
Howie.The Venezuelan girl is dark, tall, brunette and has curly hair not very long. She will approach you with a great smile and plenty red lipstick. She is nice and polite but not my personal type.
We had a chat last time but we mainly talked about. Maduro LOL.
I went with Venezuelan girl named Chloe few years back, some upsell, but great service in room.Mine looks like Russian type, blond, very expensive, but I prefer quality compare to low Sharks casting from where I moved, and I got a hot dream with her before what would become a very painful night. After our room, she proposed me to stay with her and her girlfriend, offering me a drink of vodka from bottle they took for their night. She was surprised I prefer to ask apfelsaft at the bar, but full smiling, speaking about escorting in Ibiza. I answered Ibiza party have no interest for me.
I also remember German Julia telling me about her French party holidays in Saint Tropez on last Summer, then asking me: how much are You ready to pay for me? My answer: 100 per hour, not good answer according to her, then she stayed sitting most of night.
That s Palace for my 2018 experiences, I also got a German part timer, reacting in bed like a woman in real life, fireworks, and she came many times later to ask to repeat, I answered I don t repeat when upselling. I just enjoy once, not to regret a rare beauty sometimes real high level in bed, like with Madi2 at Sharks, couldn't resist to get a new Madi for Christmas 2017 present, but no repeat. My regulars are girls I never speak about money with, much better to do with a beauty, when grocery sex is just a killing desire.
Mine looks like Russian type, blond, very expensive, but I prefer quality compare to low Sharks casting from where I moved, and I got a hot dream with her before what would become a very painful night. After our room, she proposed me to stay with her and her girlfriend, offering me a drink of vodka from bottle they took for their night. She was surprised I prefer to ask apfelsaft at the bar, but full smiling, speaking about escorting in Ibiza. I answered Ibiza party have no interest for me.
I also remember German Julia telling me about her French party holidays in Saint Tropez on last Summer, then asking me: how much are You ready to pay for me? My answer: 100 per hour, not good answer according to her, then she stayed sitting most of night.
That s Palace for my 2018 experiences, I also got a German part timer, reacting in bed like a woman in real life, fireworks, and she came many times later to ask to repeat, I answered I don t repeat when upselling. I just enjoy once, not to regret a rare beauty sometimes real high level in bed, like with Madi2 at Sharks, couldn't resist to get a new Madi for Christmas 2017 present, but no repeat. My regulars are girls I never speak about money with, much better to do with a beauty, when grocery sex is just a killing desire.Sound good Siri, mine was apparently Argentinian in reality, but went around as Venezuelan, either way, she was a beauty and good in room with some upsell unfortunately, but worth every penny. I was told by Kylie that I was lucky to meet this Venezuelan girl as she does not work often as she escort usually and comes in once in awhile, well in FKK, some day you win, some day you lose.
Overall, it is all good.
It is too bad that they destroyed first bar area, it sound like there is no place in palace where there is good light to look at girls face and only at main bar dark light, which I called magic light to make girl look better. I prefer taking good look at girls face before, so I do not get negative surprise in room. Usually every FKK has good hunting spot and for me, first bar was such spot with good lighting and bar seat to sit on.
The Venezuelan girl is dark, tall, brunette and has curly hair not very long. She will approach you with a great smile and plenty red lipstick. She is nice and polite but not my personal type.
We had a chat last time but we mainly talked about. Maduro LOL.Not at all mine, but she told me she tour only few times per year in Palace, 30 November was first time I saw her, must be really blind not to notice such elegant beauty, so I was lucky to find such angel face, but I think I also made a good job with her, I m sure she would have gone for second orgasmus, but too expensive, even I prefer to pay more expensive for higher level quality than average Sharks castings seen on this Friday afternoon before Christmas, good time to visit, but which didn't worth I paid for, but Palace is not Globe even she was on Globe level and I pay upselling only once, not to miss a exceptional girl and she is, but no repeat because of upselling and maybe better for me because not sure then I would have survived to reach French border.
A one shot dream before hospital just on french border, because I would not have survived to drive to Paris. But 4 days later, signing paper to hospital, I drove home because job was waiting for me, even I already worked from bed since Monday.
Sound good Siri, mine was apparently Argentinian in reality, but went around as Venezuelan, either way, she was a beauty and good in room with some upsell unfortunately, but worth every penny. I was told by Kylie that I was lucky to meet this Venezuelan girl as she does not work often as she escort usually and comes in once in awhile, well in FKK, some day you win, some day you lose.
Overall, it is all good.
It is too bad that they destroyed first bar area, it sound like there is no place in palace where there is good light to look at girls face and only at main bar dark light, which I called magic light to make girl look better. I prefer taking good look at girls face before, so I do not get negative surprise in room. Usually every FKK has good hunting spot and for me, first bar was such spot with good lighting and bar seat to sit on.Light is quite good around new bar, same on entry and restaurant.
My Venezuelan doesn't look South American, but Slavian. Part timer at Palace but escort in Ibiza and maybe Dubaο .
Gentlemen,
I have yet to go to an FKK in Frankfurt, Germany. (1) Can someone speak on the quality of the Frankfurt establishments? (2) What is the mix between locals and tourists as to the male guests? My experience is that tourist establishments are overpriced scams.1.
My response would be very similar to what Teddy Bears and Danny have given you in the Artemis thread. If you act like a noobie then any shark at any Frankfurt club will find you and eat you alive (similar to your Artemis experience). Act like you know it, and 100 E /60 sessions will give you a great time in 80- 90% of your sessions at the best Frankfurt clubs. Wanting GFE for 50 E? It's possible, but you will struggle. Don't enjoy the struggle? Skip Frankfurt and move on to NRW (Finca / Bernd's / Babylon/Aca, etc.).
2.
Find a map and make a line between Frankfurt Central Station and Frankfurt Messe. The closer the club is to this line, the more tourists and overpriced scams. The further away, the lesser scams. But no club is immune to scams. Again, if you act like a noobie ...
I suggest you start at Sharks and see how it goes.
Have fun & Report!
So apparently the 15 jahre anniversary party was a bust. So after all the remodeling and entry proce adjustment, Palace is still a dud regarding the line up and services. Sound about right to those who have made recent visits?
Light is quite good around new bar, same on entry and restaurant.
My Venezuelan doesn't look South American, but Slavian. Part timer at Palace but escort in Ibiza and maybe Duba .Mine did look like Latin American with dark brunette hair, truly beautiful girl straight out of Latin movie, well, I only had luck to go with her once, but it was memorable session that I shall never forget. These memories are the reasons I like mongering, we get to buy beautiful memories that echoes in eternity. Happy hunting to you Siri!
The new bad set up remind me of exact same set up as artemis main bar with elevated sofa area facing the bar. , well I must seek for new normal light comfortable hunting position, but it sound like no where to sit around near changing room door of the girl. I always have comfy hunting position for each club, but I am afraid at palace, they destroyed my favorite first bar where it is quiet and chilled out with best view on girls under normal lighting and not this magic lighting of main bar.
Live in Palace for their 15th birthday. On the look out for SirIoja's Venezuelan. Anyone have a description on what she looks like? If I hit a dead end, will probably fuck Mia from Serbia instead.
Howie.I didn't know you were there too. Should have messaged me. I left after 5-6 hours though. No rooms. Unimpressed. Meggie was there, but she left early, and even if there were 2 or 3 new pretty skinny blondes with beautiful faces, they seemed to never have taken a squat with 10 kg in their entire life. And at the same time giving attitude. A few of the lesser pretty ones at palace have better personalities. So its a tradeoff I suppose, but I had already paid for Oase entry, so had no interest in even taking an upsell discussion with the few new optics at palace. And pretty Ruby seemed tired. I bet it was the smoke or the crazy loud music during the party. Hardly a Venezuelan beauty I could find at least.
Member #4636
02-11-19, 06:56
So apparently the 15 jahre anniversary party was a bust. So after all the remodeling and entry proce adjustment, Palace is still a dud regarding the line up and services. Sound about right to those who have made recent visits?Regarding services it is just the jacuzzi missing and maybe some more private area. Line up hasn't changed much like before but every time I go I see less clients and no vibe.
The club had a vibe before the renovation, I see that missing now, a big oval bar with nice purple lights but still dark enough to see the real beauty of some girls. The food is still nice but of course you don't go there just to eat. I liked one change they did for dressed Tuesdays for men but they cancelled it.
even if there were 2 or 3 new pretty skinny blondes with beautiful faces
I would be happy to find 2 or 3 beautiful faces, even only 1 , on my clubs visits, then I m motivated, even if I had to work hard to make a beautiful face will to please me.
I don't go in clubs for discotheque, clubs DJs are so bad, killing my ears, I prefer when quiet, then can hear chat with a beautiful face and if slow business, she may be fresh and all free for me. During ski, not enough time, but will have to return to Palace where I found beauties on my last visits.
Best for me in Hessen, since end of June.
I don't go in clubs for discotheque, clubs DJs are so bad, killing my earsTrue. The worst thing is that clubs everywhere actually pay DJ's a fee. I call them jukeboxers though. As they don't really rip CD's or LP's any longer like a real DJ should. And the bass is too high most places. Tearing most girls and guests.
Member #4636
02-14-19, 18:59
I would be happy to find 2 or 3 beautiful faces, even only 1 , on my clubs visits, then I m motivated, even if I had to work hard to make a beautiful face will to please me.
I don't go in clubs for discotheque, clubs DJs are so bad, killing my ears, I prefer when quiet, then can hear chat with a beautiful face and if slow business, she may be fresh and all free for me. During ski, not enough time, but will have to return to Palace where I found beauties on my last visits.
Best for me in Hessen, since end of June.I think you must have been very lucky to find beauties on all your visits. You never know when that luck fuck day is and it is not so often. Can you give us some names? Maybe your beauties are just under rated for me.
I think you must have been very lucky to find beauties on all your visits. You never know when that luck fuck day is and it is not so often. Can you give us some names? Maybe your beauties are just under rated for me.On my 2 2018 visits. German Julia was a real beauty, Diana also, shame on me I forgot German part timer name. Also got a pretty Romanian for 100 for 1 hour.
True. The worst thing is that clubs everywhere actually pay DJ's a fee. I call them jukeboxers though. As they don't really rip CD's or LP's any longer like a real DJ should. And the bass is too high most places. Tearing most girls and guests.I wonder if GT Bruggen pay fee to that polish DJ who is also a cleaning guy during the day. In some club, music is just way too loud, Palace before renovation was just right for volume of music and also no smoke in main bar.
I wonder if GT Bruggen pay fee to that polish DJ who is also a cleaning guy during the day. In some club, music is just way too loud, Palace before renovation was just right for volume of music and also no smoke in main bar.Not about level because less loud than bass in concerts, for example Smashing Pumpkins, but so bad music. On last night, Alanah Myles black velvet at LR, even remixed but it was like Christmas for my ears, I remember when they played Bon Jovi. YY was one of the best for music, like for foods. Samya is just a nightmare for music, but one of the best casting.
But just like new music, they are not musicians, where are new Jimi Hendrix, Herbie Hancock, Stanley Clarke, Jaco Pastorius, who were able to play guitars or piano.
Member #4636
02-15-19, 16:33
I wonder if GT Bruggen pay fee to that polish DJ who is also a cleaning guy during the day. In some club, music is just way too loud, Palace before renovation was just right for volume of music and also no smoke in main bar.Music usually sucks in clubs, dance music not my style anyway, in Palace they often put some Romanian hits as well and the girls get crazy. The quality of music is just part of the kitsch style of all FKK clubs anyway. The decor is kitsch, the music is kitsch, the rooms are kitsch even the high heels the WG wear are kitsch. It annoys me when I see classy ladies in such environment. Palace at least looks a bit more stylish after the renovation. I have seen Oase only in pics and it looks way too kitsch, Artemis the same.
Music usually sucks in clubs, dance music not my style anyway, in Palace they often put some Romanian hits as well and the girls get crazy. The quality of music is just part of the kitsch style of all FKK clubs anyway. The decor is kitsch, the music is kitsch, the rooms are kitsch even the high heels the WG wear are kitsch. It annoys me when I see classy ladies in such environment. Palace at least looks a bit more stylish after the renovation. I have seen Oase only in pics and it looks way too kitsch, Artemis the same.I have not been back to palace since renovation, but by look of it, the main bar of new palace look identical to Artemis set up except, palace is newer, so more stylish. The free smoking now make it chimney as Artemis I imagine. Well we should make best of the situation either way, but given the up sell of recent few years, I will switch to Zurich for awhile.
Not about level because less loud than bass in concerts, for example Smashing Pumpkins, but so bad music. On last night, Alanah Myles black velvet at LR, even remixed but it was like Christmas for my ears, I remember when they played Bon Jovi. YY was one of the best for music, like for foods. Samya is just a nightmare for music, but one of the best casting.
But just like new music, they are not musicians, where are new Jimi Hendrix, Herbie Hancock, Stanley Clarke, Jaco Pastorius, who were able to play guitars or piano.Siri,
For me, what bother me is the volume and yes as you mentioned bass, but volume, when night time comes, these FKK raise the volume trying to pump up the atmosphere, but what they fail to understand is that FKK is not disco. And when they do this it is hard to talk unless you shout by ear in some clubs. I think they also raise volume mostly for them employees because they are bored and need music while they are working, they are the one controlling the volume as well.
Funny thing is that polish DJ in GT, it make me crack up and laugh hard when he begin dancing LOL, especially I am high on some herbs during my visit to GT, it is just so corny LOL.
It is also nice how some music remind you of certain girl or time of FKK after your visit when you are back home, I heard same music in supermarket other day that reminded me of sometime in FKK, so music can be good thing, but volume and bass as you pointed out is the killer.
I would be happy to find 2 or 3 beautiful faces, even only 1 , on my clubs visits, then I m motivated, even if I had to work hard to make a beautiful face will to please me.
I don't go in clubs for discotheque, clubs DJs are so bad, killing my ears, I prefer when quiet, then can hear chat with a beautiful face and if slow business, she may be fresh and all free for me. During ski, not enough time, but will have to return to Palace where I found beauties on my last visits.
Best for me in Hessen, since end of June.Same mindset as me. Before I found 2 or 3 beauties to my standard, most of time some of them being new beauty face. But now, I only find one, most of time the beauty I have been before, which motivate me not to go or at least it pulls me back when I am about to book to go. I may switch to Zurich for little while since there seems to be German beauty and I only been to globe once.
Member #4636
02-16-19, 07:56
I have not been back to palace since renovation, but by look of it, the main bar of new palace look identical to Artemis set up except, palace is newer, so more stylish. The free smoking now make it chimney as Artemis I imagine. Well we should make best of the situation either way, but given the up sell of recent few years, I will switch to Zurich for awhile.It does look a bit like Artemis but you don't have so many places to walk around like the Berlin club. The smoke is also worse in Artemis because there are more people smoking.
Up sell is in both clubs I think. The thing with Palace is that it has lost it's vibe after the renovation, last time I went on a Thursday I felt bored after an hour.
where are new Jimi Hendrix, who were able to play guitars or piano.Well, siri, there goes Lenny Kravitz for you, now I can see you going what? LOL!
I think you must have been very lucky to find beauties on all your visits. You never know when that luck fuck day is and it is not so often. Can you give us some names? Maybe your beauties are just under rated for me.It's frustrating when your favorite suddenly becomes so popular that she doesn't have time or you, because even bigger whales are rolling in. We must remember we are replaceable by the next man who rolls in with a case full of cash, no matter if he's packing a crayon, wonder wand or punisher between his legs. Sometimes a 50 year old overweight heart patient can be more attractive than a 25 year old actor, if the old man known to have a fat stack of cash and loose spending habits.
BigBuddy69
02-16-19, 20:40
I, I will switch to Zurich for awhile.You know, things can change in the five next years before you come back.
Same mindset as me. Before I found 2 or 3 beauties to my standard, most of time some of them being new beauty face. But now, I only find one, most of time the beauty I have been before, which motivate me not to go or at least it pulls me back when I am about to book to go. I may switch to Zurich for little while since there seems to be German beauty and I only been to globe once.For sure, Globe German team with Joana, Skylar, Gianina, is higher level than around Frankfurt or Dusseldorf, I think only Hamburg could compete.
For sure, my ears would prefer Lenny Kravitz American woman even they are not the prettiest, but better than Manele. At Globe, I really enjoyed hearing cat people performed by David Bowie on Georgio Moroder music, Nastassja Kinski was so sexy, like in Tess from Roman Polanski.
I wonder if GT Bruggen pay fee to that polish DJ who is also a cleaning guy during the day. In some club, music is just way too loud, Palace before renovation was just right for volume of music and also no smoke in main bar.When the clubs market with 'DJ's on this or that day of the week' then I guess they probably pay them. No idea if GT does that. But I've seen other clubs market themselves with that. Most useless marketing I have seen in FKK's I think. As it is usually a reason to stay away rather than going. These FKK DJ's all seems to love loud bass, and ruin more on the original tracks than they add.
It does look a bit like Artemis but you don't have so many places to walk around like the Berlin club. The smoke is also worse in Artemis because there are more people smoking.
Up sell is in both clubs I think. The thing with Palace is that it has lost it's vibe after the renovation, last time I went on a Thursday I felt bored after an hour.Well palace is more like drop by club or day club or after 6 pm to midnight club, so it was always not much places to hang out, but it sound like it now became nowhere to hang out, but the main bar club.
I always liked Artemis because one can workout, hang out out side area during summer, out side jacuzzi looking at sky, separate sauna building where almost no girls come and approach, order deliveries easily with many options being in metropolitan Berlin and so on. Then 2015, with decline of line up level, I switched to nrw and Hessen, but now I may shift to Zurich FKK from this year, I will think about it, but summer in NRW FKK is tempting, so may do both with one stone.
For sure, Globe German team with Joana, Skylar, Gianina, is higher level than around Frankfurt or Dusseldorf, I think only Hamburg could compete.
For sure, my ears would prefer Lenny Kravitz American woman even they are not the prettiest, but better than Manele. At Globe, I really enjoyed hearing cat people performed by David Bowie on Georgio Moroder music, Nastassja Kinski was so sexy, like in Tess from Roman Polanski.Roman Polanski stuck in Gstaad for things he allegedly did back in the days, it is odd how time changes and now all one got to do is to go to FKK if you seek for similar activity and it is all legal.
I never been to Hamburg FKK siri, but all my favorite Germans tend to come or at least claim to come from Hamburg area, so it must be close to my taste being closest to Danish border plus north German mix must be it. In the end girls go where the business is and my only one time Sunday visit to globe which was OK at time, but good enough if I look back now should not keep me away from going there for full trip to globe. Plus unlike Berlin, even globe line up let me down, there are other good clubs in Zurich.
Throughout years, the hurdle for me to say wow to beauty of girls gone up, so it is hard for me to find girl I want to session with and like you, I care most for how she look and for the rest like service etc. I can negotiate. I do miss Artemis golden days when it was the best for me with such diverse line up with few real beauties from 2010 to 2014 ish, but gone with the wind actually is the beauty of good FKK I think, like flowers, it only good for limited time, then best club line up shift to other clubs.
Member #4636
02-17-19, 08:10
For sure, Globe German team with Joana, Skylar, Gianina, is higher level than around Frankfurt or Dusseldorf, I think only Hamburg could compete.
For sure, my ears would prefer Lenny Kravitz American woman even they are not the prettiest, but better than Manele. At Globe, I really enjoyed hearing cat people performed by David Bowie on Georgio Moroder music, Nastassja Kinski was so sexy, like in Tess from Roman Polanski.Imagine how nice it would be if we could enter these clubs dressed casual or business and the girls where there with sexy dresses and lingerie and there was nice chill and ambient music with stylish light. This is how I would like the clubs to be, away from all the kistch look they have right now. And play all the flirting mind games with the beautiful ladies whispering in your ear things like 'Oh I forgot to wear underwear'. LOL!
Member #4636
02-17-19, 08:13
It's frustrating when your favorite suddenly becomes so popular that she doesn't have time or you, because even bigger whales are rolling in. We must remember we are replaceable by the next man who rolls in with a case full of cash, no matter if he's packing a crayon, wonder wand or punisher between his legs. Sometimes a 50 year old overweight heart patient can be more attractive than a 25 year old actor, if the old man known to have a fat stack of cash and loose spending habits.I know it is just money for them but not all girls want to go with anyone just because he throws the cash in their face.
I am 50 BTW, I hope you were not talking about me. LOL LOL.
When the clubs market with 'DJ's on this or that day of the week' then I guess they probably pay them. No idea if GT does that. But I've seen other clubs market themselves with that. Most useless marketing I have seen in FKK's I think. As it is usually a reason to stay away rather than going. These FKK DJ's all seems to love loud bass, and ruin more on the original tracks than they add.Well I think, all FKK need is one of those youtube 3 hour music video that play DJ set lists with moderate volume and bass, it save both parties, us clients and FKK clubs finance department LOL.
Imagine how nice it would be if we could enter these clubs dressed casual or business and the girls where there with sexy dresses and lingerie and there was nice chill and ambient music with stylish light. This is how I would like the clubs to be, away from all the kistch look they have right now. And play all the flirting mind games with the beautiful ladies whispering in your ear things like 'Oh I forgot to wear underwear'. LOL!You should go to Aphrodisia bar in Zurich city, where girls are in evening dress. Despite my new bad Swiss friends trying to rob my money, but I will have to return to Switzerland because I prefer to spend my money for quality = beauty, elegance and charm, to motivate me to do the job to seduce with my manners and give her the will to please me.
I know it is just money for them but not all girls want to go with anyone just because he throws the cash in their face.
I am 50 BTW, I hope you were not talking about me. LOL LOL.If one of what I call my real favorite, prefer to go with another guy when I wait, then she can stay whole day and night with him and doesn't need to come again to me. At LR, my best ever FKK girl came to me each time she saw me for months, others just had to wait, on a Thursday evening when I arrived, she told me she was booked until Saturday included, but if I came on Friday, she would delay her booking and start with me. To be fair with her and this is why she was my 4/5 weekly hours favorite for months, when she arrived she came to me as always, but bad images of previous night made me not going in couch with her. When I left LR, even I knew she was my best, I knew she was not anymore a woman for me, but just a prostitute at work in my eyes. She came again to me as always on next Friday, but I couldn't anymore go with her, I need image of a woman, lost image about her. She always chose me first, she was my best partner in FKK bed, but I stopped. I thought but I was never returning to her.
Has anyone seen Claudia Rkr lately? Tall girl, brown hair. I saw her last November.
Member #4636
02-17-19, 20:39
You should go to Aphrodisia bar in Zurich city, where girls are in evening dress. Despite my new bad Swiss friends trying to rob my money, but I will have to return to Switzerland because I prefer to spend my money for quality = beauty, elegance and charm, to motivate me to do the job to seduce with my manners and give her the will to please me.Checked both Aphrodisia and Globe from pictures and reports. I think they give an idea to FKK clubs what they should add to be more elegance.
Checked both Aphrodisia and Globe from pictures and reports. I think they give an idea to FKK clubs what they should add to be more elegance.Globe is very hard club to stay for long hours, but service is there without any annoying negotiations. As for line up, my visit to globe is so limited to only once on Sunday as well, so I cannot say. At the time, I had too much expectation for lineup, so I was half satisfied, but in retrospect, I think it was good considering on Sunday.
Member #4636
02-18-19, 06:58
If one of what I call my real favorite, prefer to go with another guy when I wait, then she can stay whole day and night with him and doesn't need to come again to me. At LR, my best ever FKK girl came to me each time she saw me for months, others just had to wait, on a Thursday evening when I arrived, she told me she was booked until Saturday included, but if I came on Friday, she would delay her booking and start with me. To be fair with her and this is why she was my 4/5 weekly hours favorite for months, when she arrived she came to me as always, but bad images of previous night made me not going in couch with her. When I left LR, even I knew she was my best, I knew she was not anymore a woman for me, but just a prostitute at work in my eyes. She came again to me as always on next Friday, but I couldn't anymore go with her, I need image of a woman, lost image about her. She always chose me first, she was my best partner in FKK bed, but I stopped. I thought but I was never returning to her.I must say this is very interesting.
What makes the difference between a woman working in a brothel that opens wide her legs for anyone than a prostitute? And what is really the difference between a prostitute and the GF we meet outside the clubs? We all know which cost us more LOL.
Checked both Aphrodisia and Globe from pictures and reports. I think they give an idea to FKK clubs what they should add to be more elegance.Globe worth for some beauties, now very rare in Germany, and for girls level in bed, for 130 for 30 mn, when some Oase or Sharks or Palace girls ask for 100 for 30 mn, but not with same level. Not the best place for elegance because of public sex, You can see a elegant look, there are few, sucking or being fucked by a old fat. But the highest level for love in bed.
Aphrodisia is more for elegance with evening dresses, no naked guys seen. But about 250 for 30 mn, Zurich is very expensive, average salary in Zurich is more than 5000 .
BigBuddy69
02-18-19, 08:34
Roman Polanski stuck in Gstaad for things he allegedly did back in the days, it is odd how time changes and now all one got to do is to go to FKK if you seek for similar activity and it is all legal.Drugging, [CodeWord125] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord125) a 13 yo girl? Well actually he really did that and it's still totally illegal, even in a FKK.
You have strange representations of legality I think, too much tentacle porn maybe.
I must say this is very interesting.
What makes the difference between a woman working in a brothel that opens wide her legs for anyone than a prostitute? And what is really the difference between a prostitute and the GF we meet outside the clubs? We all know which cost us more LOL.I always hear this tired adage of girlfriends costing more than prostitutes but the fallacy behind this belief is that they assume that all women are stay-at-home housewives that do not contribute to the household. Perhaps this was true for guys coming from older generations or those from less developed countries, but women from western nations in 2019 earn a pretty decent wage. A man earning 150,000 USD may be able to purchase a $250 K home but adding a $100 K income from his significant other allows the couple to purchase something much nicer. Combining that with the cost savings of buying in bulk and discounted packaged insurance policies, cellular phone bills, utility bills, and holidays, the buying potential is even greater. Compare this to a prostitute who is a black hole of spending and it's simple math.
This does assume that you pick a mate wisely instead of submitting to primitive impulses of selecting the shiniest overpriced toy who can one day take your home and require alimony.
CaneUppHosAss
02-18-19, 18:00
I always hear this tired adage of girlfriends costing more than prostitutes but the fallacy behind this belief is that they assume that all women are stay-at-home housewives that do not contribute to the household. Perhaps this was true for guys coming from older generations or those from less developed countries, but women from western nations in 2019 earn a pretty decent wage. A man earning 150,000 USD may be able to purchase a $250 K home but adding a $100 K income from his significant other allows the couple to purchase something much nicer. Combining that with the cost savings of buying in bulk and discounted packaged insurance policies, cellular phone bills, utility bills, and holidays, the buying potential is even greater. Compare this to a prostitute who is a black hole of spending and it's simple math.
This does assume that you pick a mate wisely instead of submitting to primitive impulses of selecting the shiniest overpriced toy who can one day take your home and require alimony.Hello Sir,
You make some good points.
As always, it is impossible to generalize these things.
But as you said, a relationship with a WG involves a unidirectional flow of cash. Unless you are a pimp (not the you you sir, for clarification).
Also, these discussions here on this site seldom mention children. Perhaps most of us are single and have no children but that is a big reason why couples stay married -- the joy and pleasure of having children.
It's frustrating when your favorite suddenly becomes so popular that she doesn't have time or you, because even bigger whales are rolling in.I have a hard time believing a WG is completely booked all the time, unless she is limiting her work schedule so that she is part-time. Your favorite is still willing to go with you, but the difference is that she no longer juggles or re-arranges her other appointments to accommodate you, correct?
I suspect platinum customers always get their preferred time slot. But I think sometimes a silver customer can bump the gold customer, if the silver customer is a married monger with very limited time windows for mongering and the gold-level customer is known to be the type of monger who opens and closes clubs several days a week.
I must say this is very interesting.
What makes the difference between a woman working in a brothel that opens wide her legs for anyone than a prostitute? And what is really the difference between a prostitute and the GF we meet outside the clubs? We all know which cost us more LOL.All girls in FKK land are prostitutes, but I notice different behavior to do this job. As say girls: we are not all the same. As I notice: all girls don't behave the same to do their job.
Girls are knew in real life didn't fuck with everybody for money.
I have a hard time believing a WG is completely booked all the time, unless she is limiting her work schedule so that she is part-time. Your favorite is still willing to go with you, but the difference is that she no longer juggles or re-arranges her other appointments to accommodate you, correct?
I suspect platinum customers always get their preferred time slot. But I think sometimes a silver customer can bump the gold customer, if the silver customer is a married monger with very limited time windows for mongering and the gold-level customer is known to be the type of monger who opens and closes clubs several days a week.They just do not like and prefer not to go for just 50 euro 30 min session because it is not efficient from business point of view and even their pussies has biological limits of how many penis pounding it can take per day. Though, it is quite rare this happens in FKK and only place it happen few times was in GT Bruggen with so called top girls, and even that happen if you say to her nicely that you are not just 50 euro guy, then it is all fine in the end and actually you get among the best service from these girls, they just prefer to go longer hour like minimum one hour and that's all considering waiting time for room, shower after session etc, it make logical sense from their business point of view.
All girls in FKK land are prostitutes, but I notice different behavior to do this job..This is very true. Though at the same time, there are clubs where certain girls try to put their own rules on all other girls, but thankfully some girls just do not follow such bogus restriction and do their own thing.
All girls in FKK land are prostitutes, but I notice different behavior to do this job. As say girls: we are not all the same. As I notice: all girls don't behave the same to do their job.
Girls are knew in real life didn't fuck with everybody for money.Women I knew in real life didn't fuck for money, had other job and never asked me money. When a woman really loves, she doesn't ask you money, because she wants to be proud of the image You have about her. Some FKK girls give a really bad image about their behavior, really not attractive to pay for.
Roman Polanski stuck in Gstaad for things he allegedly did back in the days, it is odd how time changes and now all one got to do is to go to FKK if you seek for similar activity and it is all legal.
I never been to Hamburg FKK siri, but all my favorite Germans tend to come or at least claim to come from Hamburg area, so it must be .My meaning was Nastassja Kinski was what I call super sexy, chic, what attract me for woman look, rather than pornstar look.
Germans, Polish and few Russians in Hamburg, Atmos and Harmony.
Member #4636
02-19-19, 14:45
All girls in FKK land are prostitutes, but I notice different behavior to do this job. As say girls: we are not all the same. As I notice: all girls don't behave the same to do their job.
Girls are knew in real life didn't fuck with everybody for money.Different behaviour is true, I have met pleasant and nice girls I have also met aggressive and cruel girls. The difference between them is that the pleasant girls know how to do better their job. They all have the same target though, to make 100.000 per year at least.
Member #4636
02-19-19, 15:19
I have a hard time believing a WG is completely booked all the time, unless she is limiting her work schedule so that she is part-time. Your favorite is still willing to go with you, but the difference is that she no longer juggles or re-arranges her other appointments to accommodate you, correct?.All the time no, but there are plenty of girls that are booked for the entire night in example from 9 pm until 3 am. Off course don't think that they have fun all the time, maybe 2 sessions max is enough so it might be I hour pure sex and all other is anything else. It is good business for the girl and they probably wish they had it every day.
Different behaviour is true, I have met pleasant and nice girls I have also met aggressive and cruel girls. The difference between them is that the pleasant girls know how to do better their job. They all have the same target though, to make 100.000 per year at least.There are few girls who are able to behave with a bit of elegance and charm, those who are attractive for me when they are pretty, and there are many prostitute behavior at work, then I run away. I need beauty, elegance, chic and charm, to desire. 2 tits and 2 holes don t make me feel anything.
My meaning was Nastassja Kinski was what I call super sexy, chic, what attract me for woman look, rather than pornstar look.
Germans, Polish and few Russians in Hamburg, Atmos and Harmony.Yes she was beautiful. It is good that sometimes, you still find same level beauty in FKK, but before much often than now. I am looking to head off to globe for my next trip, I just hope enough german beauty has headed to Zurich after new registration law.
Yes she was beautiful. It is good that sometimes, you still find same level beauty in FKK, but before much often than now. I am looking to head off to globe for my next trip, I just hope enough german beauty has headed to Zurich after new registration law.I had some real beauties, mostly Romanians, they have more charm for me than Germans, who really made me dream and who could compete with Russian escorts for beauty. Usually, these high level beauties don t upsell, little girls types upsell more.
I had some real beauties, mostly Romanians, they have more charm for me than Germans, who really made me dream and who could compete with Russian escorts for beauty. Usually, these high level beauties don t upsell, little girls types upsell more.Then you must be in the right place at German FKK swimming through the oceans of Romanian girls or self claimed Spanish / Italian girls who speak fluent Romanians LOL.
I like how some German girls perform in room when I find the right one, which is becoming rare and rare recently.
Then you must be in the right place at German FKK swimming through the oceans of Romanian girls or self claimed Spanish / Italian girls who speak fluent Romanians LOL.
I like how some German girls perform in room when I find the right one, which is becoming rare and rare recently.Yes I love Romanian woman types, they are close to French women. German girls are more extreme for sex, but not same care, sensuality and charm for me.
FKK land is Romania, even Globe where superstar is Romanian, and also very expensive Aphrodisia.
Member #4636
02-22-19, 06:42
I had some real beauties, mostly Romanians, they have more charm for me than Germans, who really made me dream and who could compete with Russian escorts for beauty. Usually, these high level beauties don t upsell, little girls types upsell more.I find Germans to be more natural and honest while Russians show you how much they want to please you. Romanians it depends from the girl. I think they are either very good or very bad.
Yes I love Romanian woman types, they are close to French women. German girls are more extreme for sex, but not same care, sensuality and charm for me.
FKK land is Romania, even Globe where superstar is Romanian, and also very expensive Aphrodisia.Then you got your era now at FKK, better to enjoy Romanian before their country get more developed, but I have been there before and it is very unlikely their country will be dramatically develop any time soon, so your supply of Romanian girls at FKK should be secure and there seems to be good platform in Romania to send them to FKK industry.
I like hard sex with German beauties, but German girl supply became quite limited recently, so it is not as exciting as before for my taste, but I do also enjoy other girls including Romanians, so it is still good place for me.
I find Germans to be more natural and honest while Russians show you how much they want to please you. Romanians it depends from the girl. I think they are either very good or very bad.Romanians are more sensual, more woman, with better care, better hygiene than Germans, for my experience and tastes. High level Romanian WGs are very honest about room and money, they prefer to keep us for regular, even some are bad liars. Had many Romanian weekly regulars.
Member #4636
02-24-19, 05:15
High level Romanian WGs are very honest about room and money, they prefer to keep us for regular, even some are bad liars. Had many Romanian weekly regulars.When you say honest what do you mean?
High level Romanian WGs are very honest about room and money, they prefer to keep us for regular, even some are bad liars. Had many Romanian weekly regulars.Liars? You mean those Italian or Spanish girls with fluent Romanian language skill right? LOL!
Then you got your era now at FKK, better to enjoy Romanian before their country get more developed, but I have been there before and it is very unlikely their country will be dramatically develop any time soon, so your supply of Romanian girls at FKK should be secure and there seems to be good platform in Romania to send them to FKK industry.
I like hard sex with German beauties, but German girl supply became quite limited recently, so it is not as exciting as before for my taste, but I do also enjoy other girls including Romanians, so it is still good place for me.Even at expensive Globe, even German Joana was exceptional with me, staying with me more than 3 hours, having diner, after we finished shower together, but even I refused many times diner or going with her, because of her public exhibitions and she stopped as soon she saw me on September, taking her client to room, I went to Globe for a Moldavian part Romanian, and even Rebeka. Hu was exceptional for our discovery, but the girl who makes me dream since our discovery at Sharks on April 2016, and since July 2016 at Globe, even I didn't go with her from end of November to August 2018, but when we are together like for our bloody room on August, when I don t have bad images in eyes, she is what I love for a woman and she is from a poor part of Romania. I m also pretty sure, even at Aphrodisia Zurich city, for 280 for 30 full minutes in bed, I would choose a Romanian beauty.
When you say honest what do you mean?I think I can claim to be a Romanian beauties lover and weekly repeating specialist, with 4 Romanians over 40 rooms and not for 30 mn, we never spoke about money and grocery, just fluent sex, they never tried to fuck me, why I repeated so many times.
When I go to a new pretty girl and she tell me she is Romanian from a different town than Bucharest or Constanza, because not many really come from these 2 towns, then from how she looks at me, I know usually I will make the job to make her will to please me. My problems are to find pretty girls with good care for their look and on my demanding, sensual intimate level in bed, what I call a woman in bed.
Liars? You mean those Italian or Spanish girls with fluent Romanian language skill right? LOL!No, my favorites charmed me at start when telling me they come from Moldavian part, or Craiova, or Timisoara, or Brasov, I was even told by another fav about previous job of my best one and it was really what she told me when she started, but they usually tell lies about their real life, even they never asked me more money, but all their lies made me bored and looking at them in different way, about their lies. I prefer they don't tell me about their real life, I'm only interested by them in club, I'm not interested to know them in their real life, I don't think we have same vision of life, all for pleasure for me, not everything for money.
No, my favorites charmed me at start when telling me they come from Moldavian part, or Craiova, or Timisoara, or Brasov, I was even told by another fav about previous job of my best one and it was really what she told me when she started, but they usually tell lies about their real life, even they never asked me more money, but all their lies made me bored and looking at them in different way, about their lies. I prefer they don't tell me about their real life, I'm only interested by them in club, I'm not interested to know them in their real life, I don't think we have same vision of life, all for pleasure for me, not everything for money.Well one cannot blame them for telling us the cover stories about their private lives because it is privacy. When girls do tell me their private lives which some seems to be true, I keep it private like how it should be. Some of FKK girls are good hearted girls that I still remember even though they are gone from this business, which I am happy for them that they are done and I wish they are happy. I do miss the sessions though.
ExpatLover
02-27-19, 06:30
Well one cannot blame them for telling us the cover stories about their private lives because it is privacy. When girls do tell me their private lives which some seems to be true, I keep it private like how it should be. Some of FKK girls are good hearted girls that I still remember even though they are gone from this business, which I am happy for them that they are done and I wish they are happy. I do miss the sessions though.I know some girls privately even visited them in Romania, mostly always the same story, poor family, mother alone with several children, low education level, getting married early and on top of that no money and not enough personal energy to work hard in a normal job. Never met a girl coming from a middle class family.
Member #4636
03-03-19, 09:26
Well one cannot blame them for telling us the cover stories about their private lives because it is privacy. When girls do tell me their private lives which some seems to be true, I keep it private like how it should be. Some of FKK girls are good hearted girls that I still remember even though they are gone from this business, which I am happy for them that they are done and I wish they are happy. I do miss the sessions though.Girls never tell about their private life but when they do it means they either trust the guy alot or they create a fake story. Of course both ways you have to keep it secret as you said.
Friday night I was there for 3 hours and it was busy than any other time I have visited the last 4-5 months. Many new faces many clients but there was annoying smoke which I didn't like.
There was a lot of pole dancing as well from the girls and there was this gay like a drag queen with blonde long hair who was paying WG to slap him. LOL Not something you see every day.
Girls never tell about their private life but when they do it means they either trust the guy alot or they create a fake story. Of course both ways you have to keep it secret as you said.
Friday night I was there for 3 hours and it was busy than any other time I have visited the last 4-5 months. Many new faces many clients but there was annoying smoke which I didn't like.
There was a lot of pole dancing as well from the girls and there was this gay like a drag queen with blonde long hair who was paying WG to slap him. LOL Not something you see every day.Yeah, sometime you see funny client LOL. Once in Artemis, I saw this very elderly gentleman with fully erected penis just waking around artemis whole night completely nude with beach sandal, which was odd view to see even at FKK LOL. I think he was into exposure thing.
Maybe there was messe at Frankfurt, usually I try to avoid messe time and I like going few days before messe to enjoy line up that is building up and leave on the day of messe.
Sebastiane
03-04-19, 19:59
Even at expensive Globe, even German Joana was exceptional with me, staying with me more than 3 hours, having diner, after we finished shower together, but even I refused many times diner or going with her, because of her public exhibitions and she stopped as soon she saw me on September, taking her client to room, I went to Globe for a Moldavian part Romanian, and even Rebeka. Hu was exceptional for our discovery, but the girl who makes me dream since our discovery at Sharks on April 2016, and since July 2016 at Globe, even I didn't go with her from end of November to August 2018, but when we are together like for our bloody room on August, when I don t have bad images in eyes, she is what I love for a woman and she is from a poor part of Romania. I m also pretty sure, even at Aphrodisia Zurich city, for 280 for 30 full minutes in bed, I would choose a Romanian beauty.Though Aphrodisia does have more of a mix than most FKKs, the majority - at least 50% are also Romanian there so your chances of choosing a Romanian are pretty high! Saw a Russian girl there last time I was there which I haven't seen for a while in an FKK. The last one was in Oase last year. What's happened to all the Russian girls who used to be in FKKs? In London working as escorts?
Though Aphrodisia does have more of a mix than most FKKs, the majority - at least 50% are also Romanian there so your chances of choosing a Romanian are pretty high! Saw a Russian girl there last time I was there which I haven't seen for a while in an FKK. The last one was in Oase last year. What's happened to all the Russian girls who used to be in FKKs? In London working as escorts?Escorting in Paris, Dubai, Istanbul. Russians in FKK are usually not the prettiest.
ExpatLover
03-05-19, 00:31
Escorting in Paris, Dubai, Istanbul. Russians in FKK are usually not the prettiest.Not the prettiest and mostly very pro and clearly a no go for me.
Member #4636
03-05-19, 06:24
Escorting in Paris, Dubai, Istanbul. Russians in FKK are usually not the prettiest.The best Russian escorts work with big agents and don't go to FKK. FKK is cheap for their class.
Sixth club of my week end, entry 50 before 5 pm, Ukrainian Anastasia and German blond from Hamburg Kylie with tattoo on arm, were hungry for business. After eating and resting, I chose natural, elegant beauty Anastasia, what a pleasure for eyes: no tattoo, no silicon, but too much love for my way for sex as she said, too difficult and complicated for her, only good BJ and good potential for fucking even kissing, for 100 , but not my level for sex. Kylie seemed to finish quite early, before 10 pm, then I noticed blond German Janie from FRA, around 30 yo, sitting, smoking but not busy, chat, she asked: what do you like? How much do you want to spend for me? I answered I enjoy only normal sex and asked if she kissed, she answered no and stayed without business. No wow girl on this visit, only a beauty.
I like Palace potential. Suginella ex Oase there, also cute Ingrid. Ro I had for 100 for 1 hour and she asked for again on this visit, like on previous.
Member #4636
03-12-19, 06:30
Sixth club of my week end, entry 50 before 5 pm, Ukrainian Anastasia and German blond from Hamburg Kylie with tattoo on arm, were hungry for business. After eating and resting, I chose natural, elegant beauty Anastasia, what a pleasure for eyes: no tattoo, no silicon, but too much love for my way for sex as she said, too difficult and complicated for her, only good BJ and good potential for fucking even kissing, for 100 , but not my level for sex. Kylie seemed to finish quite early, before 10 pm, then I noticed blond German Janie from FRA, around 30 yo, sitting, smoking but not busy, chat, she asked: what do you like? How much do you want to spend for me? I answered I enjoy only normal sex and asked if she kissed, she answered no and stayed without business. No wow girl on this visit, only a beauty.
I like Palace potential. Suginella ex Oase there, also cute Ingrid. Ro I had for 100 for 1 hour and she asked for again on this visit, like on previous.2 blonde Germans in one visit in Palace? Lucky man!
The best Russian escorts work with big agents and don't go to FKK. FKK is cheap for their class.Somehow I doubt that is the reason. I would rather put my money on it being visa related, as I see tons of Russians / Ukrainians elsewhere in Europe for 100 euro per 30 min. And even 70 e per 30 min too if they are not at prime age. And from apartments instead of FKK's with entry fees. Add to that the loss of time between rooms when working apartments, and the idea of Russians being more expensive falls flat.
Member #4636
03-12-19, 19:13
Somehow I doubt that is the reason. I would rather put my money on it being visa related, as I see tons of Russians / Ukrainians elsewhere in Europe for 100 euro per 30 min. And even 70 e per 30 min too if they are not at prime age. And from apartments instead of FKK's with entry fees. Add to that the loss of time between rooms when working apartments, and the idea of Russians being more expensive falls flat.I am not 100 % sure but I think only Ukraine is under a visa waiver programme for Germany and not Russia. Yes escorts from Russia are everywhere, even in my country Russian girls are like Romanians in Germany, they are more than 70 % of foreign escorts and they are almost all stunning.
It is not about pricing because here they do great service for average 140 / hour and extra CIM or anal is charged another 20 and 50 euro max unlike 50 and 100 in FKK.
It is about the way they see FKK they don't like this type of German prostitution club they want to work with their agent only or independently. FKK seem cheep not in pricing but in terms of taste.
2 blonde Germans in one visit in Palace? Lucky man!Many German girls on this Saturday but no German room for me. Ukrainian was more elegant attractive for me, but not wow in bed compare to Venezuelan or German part timer I got on previous visits. But when some clubs are low level for me, Palace is quality, for entry 50 , even foods were not so great.
I am not 100 % sure but I think only Ukraine is under a visa waiver programme for Germany and not Russia. Yes escorts from Russia are everywhere, even in my country Russian girls are like Romanians in Germany, they are more than 70 % of foreign escorts and they are almost all stunning.
It is not about pricing because here they do great service for average 140 / hour and extra CIM or anal is charged another 20 and 50 euro max unlike 50 and 100 in FKK.
It is about the way they see FKK they don't like this type of German prostitution club they want to work with their agent only or independently. FKK seem cheep not in pricing but in terms of taste.Maybe you are right. Maybe it is structural. But when it comes to beauty levels, there are not a higher percentage of pretty Russians than Romanians. At least not here. But maybe because most Russians I see is older and 40 plus. Somehow the most beautiful ones in average seems to be Moldavian here. But as with everything p6, these things are probably recruitment related.
Neurosynth
03-13-19, 17:04
Roman Polanski stuck in Gstaad for things he allegedly did back in the days, it is odd how time changes and now all one got to do is to go to FKK if you seek for similar activity and it is all legal.
.What Polanski did is not legal in any sense. He drugged a 13 year old girl and then had sex with her despite her refusals. He then tried to argue it was consensual. At 13 the word "consensual" cannot be considered either a moral or legal excuse. He then ran away rather than face punishment for the crimes he admitted to.
That to this day he denies wrongdoing is evidence enough of his ongoing sociopathic attitudes.
Maybe you are right. Maybe it is structural. But when it comes to beauty levels, there are not a higher percentage of pretty Russians than Romanians. At least not here. But maybe because most Russians I see is older and 40 plus. Somehow the most beautiful ones in average seems to be Moldavian here. But as with everything p6, these things are probably recruitment related.Eastern European women tend to be very beautiful till they are about age 30 or 35, then they begin to dramatically expand in size LOL. It must be gene and food they eat and their lifestyle.
ExpatLover
03-14-19, 07:26
Eastern European women tend to be very beautiful till they are about age 30 or 35, then they begin to dramatically expand in size LOL. It must be gene and food they eat and their lifestyle.Is it only true for the eastern woman, when I travel around the world obesity is getting worse and worse even in China.
Member #4636
03-14-19, 16:05
Eastern European women tend to be very beautiful till they are about age 30 or 35, then they begin to dramatically expand in size LOL. It must be gene and food they eat and their lifestyle.True, after they get married they look like whales. LOL.
True, after they get married they look like whales. LOL.Unfortunately. I think it is partly gene and also food.
I visited FKK Palace last week during a brief overnight layover in Frankfurt. It was my first visit to Palace in about 10 years. I was originally planning to go to Oase but my flight arrived very late and by the time I got to hotel, checked in and had dinner, it was well past 10 pm. As I was staying near the main train station, I wandered into the RLD, where I had one of my first monger experiences ever. Not much as changed, still full of junkies on the street, scary-looking huge Eastern European men practically grabbing you to go into their clubs. I went into two houses and saw nothing that appealed to me so went outside and grabbed a taxi to Palace.
Palace has changed quite a bit. I was hesitant to visit as some previous reports complained about cigarette smoke. Yes I could smell the smoke but it was not bad. Of course this was a Tuesday night at the bar was about 70% working girls and barely a dozen men. The place has been renovated and looks much more modern. After paying my entry fee, the receptionist gave me a brief tour of the place, I showered and grabbed my towel and slippers and headed to the bar and ordered a beer. Within seconds I was surrounded by girls like sharks on chum. I had to politely decline each girl, explaining I had just arrived and wanted to look around first. Almost all the girls were beautiful, at least 7 or higher, a few 9's in my book. Beautiful but not drop-dead gorgeous. Most of the girls introduced themselves as Romanian. One of the first girls I met was Yanna. The girl with the dragon tattoo that took up most of her back. I originally turned her down because I wanted to see the lay of the land first and I'm not a big fan of tats but she only had the one tattoo that definitely grabbed my attention. I went up to the balcony area and sat just watching the parade of girls. Occasionally a girl would sit and chat with me but I wasn't getting any connection.
After about 30 minutes, Yanna came by again and smiled at me. I motioned for her to come over, calling out to her as the "Girl with the Dragon Tattoo". She laughed, sat down and we ended up chatting for about 30 minutes. She was super nice and we made an instant connection and shared my beer. Finally got down to business. I told her what I wanted and she initially began with a price of 200 euros including rimming. I wasn't into that so she then cut the price to 150 for 1 hour. I thought it was a lot but given what I'd pay in Dubai or other pricey monger destinations, I pulled the trigger.
I was not disappointed. Yanna was a total PSE. She is about 5'7", dirty blonde hair, about 28-30 years old, huge fake but soft DD tits, shaved kitty and long long legs and wearing nothing but f*ck-me stiletto heels. She claimed to be from Hamburg but she had an eastern European accent. In the room she immediately turned into a wild child, beginning with a BBBJ. She asked if I wanted her to remove her heels in bed. Hell no! As we had previously negotiated, I asked to go down on her. Instead she begged to sit on my face, which she did in multiple positions for a good 20 minutes. We then shagged in multiple positions in her tight tight fanny. I won't soon forget the look of watching myself in the mirror shagging this beautiful woman while holding her heels in the air. Finished with a HJ and finished on her amazing tits.
I'm not as experienced as some of you mongers but I would put this down as one of my top 3 WG experiences ever. After that, I left. There would have been no point in trying to top Yanna!
After about 30 minutes, Yanna came by again and smiled at me. I motioned for her to come over, calling out to her as the "Girl with the Dragon Tattoo". She laughed, sat down and we ended up chatting for about 30 minutes. She was super nice and we made an instant connection and shared my beer. Finally got down to business. I told her what I wanted and she initially began with a price of 200 euros including rimming. I wasn't into that so she then cut the price to 150 for 1 hour. I thought it was a lot but given what I'd pay in Dubai or other pricey monger destinations, I pulled the trigger.
I was not disappointed. Yanna was a total PSE. She is about 5'7", dirty blonde hair, about 28-30 years old, huge fake but soft DD tits, shaved kitty and long long legs and wearing nothing but f*ck-me stiletto heels. She claimed to be from Hamburg but she had an eastern European accent. In the room she immediately turned into a wild child, beginning with a BBBJ. She asked if I wanted her to remove her heels in bed. Hell no! As we had previously negotiated, I asked to go down on her. Instead she begged to sit on my face, which she did in multiple positions for a good 20 minutes. We then shagged in multiple positions in her tight tight fanny. I won't soon forget the look of watching myself in the mirror shagging this beautiful woman while holding her heels in the air. Finished with a HJ and finished on her amazing tits!Nice report and considering cum on tits, 150 e, some would say, was a price. When you said fanny, did you mean anal? If so, 150 was an excellent deal.
Member #4636
03-16-19, 04:59
Nice report and considering cum on tits, 150 e, some would say, was a price. When you said fanny, did you mean anal? If so, 150 was an excellent deal.If so yes it was a good deal. I think he meant pussy though, or kitty. I have never seen this Yanna but from the description she seems good.
If so yes it was a good deal. I think he meant pussy though, or kitty. I have never seen this Yanna but from the description she seems good.Always judge only with your eyes and create your own experience, we don't all look for same kind of sex. Didn't notice any Jana, not many pretty at Palace for me, but when I find a pretty girl in a club, I'm just happy and can enjoy to go only with her.
Joey Smith
04-23-19, 01:45
Gents,
Been 5 years since I last visited FKK Palace. What are the prices these days? Still an entrance fee and then the girls have their own prices. Thanks for the assistance.
Which one has a better selection on a Saturday night Palace or FKK Oase?
Gents,
Been 5 years since I last visited FKK Palace. What are the prices these days? Still an entrance fee and then the girls have their own prices. Thanks for the assistance.
Which one has a better selection on a Saturday night Palace or FKK Oase?Entry 50 before 5 pm at Palace, before 4 pm at Oase, the 2 most interesting clubs in Germany for me in 2019, even I was so happy to return to magic World and I arrived only at night, I missed sun in the garden, but even at night I went straight to see the superb tree room and green lights in swimming pool outside, but too cold water. Also beautiful rooms at Palace and rooms 27 and 28 for Oase. If you are not too cheap, you can sometimes find really attractive girls, but only few, at Palace. Had my best 2019 girl at Oase, except Globe, my only 2019 wow look and she changed to real great in room. Croatian and Miss too much love with You are also real women in bed. Many Sharks regulars seen at Oase, I think times are changing about quality. Of course, still many girls who are low level at Oase and there since long time, but few interesting, more woman type, even women Ina, Elisabet. Cz left.
Member #4636
04-23-19, 14:25
Gents,
Been 5 years since I last visited FKK Palace. What are the prices these days? Still an entrance fee and then the girls have their own prices. Thanks for the assistance.
Which one has a better selection on a Saturday night Palace or FKK Oase?You can find your answers if you check their website.
There is not a specific day of the week for Palace, you can go Saturday night and be empty and then go Monday and be full of beauties. It is like a box of chocolates and there is also magic in there so be prepared.
You can find your answers if you check their website.
There is not a specific day of the week for Palace, you can go Saturday night and be empty and then go Monday and be full of beauties. It is like a box of chocolates and there is also magic in there so be prepared.I'm pretty sure Palace best casting days are Friday and Saturday evenings. 50 entry before 5 pm.
Entry 50 before 5 pm at Palace, before 4 pm at Oase, the 2 most interesting clubs in Germany for me in 2019, even I was so happy to return to magic World and I arrived only at night, I missed sun in the garden, but even at night I went straight to see the superb tree room and green lights in swimming pool outside, but too cold water. Also beautiful rooms at Palace and rooms 27 and 28 for Oase. If you are not too cheap, you can sometimes find really attractive girls, but only few, at Palace. Had my best 2019 girl at Oase, except Globe, my only 2019 wow look and she changed to real great in room. Croatian and Miss too much love with You are also real women in bed. Many Sharks regulars seen at Oase, I think times are changing about quality. Of course, still many girls who are low level at Oase and there since long time, but few interesting, more woman type, even women Ina, Elisabet. Cz left.Elisabeth CZ, true loss. So you say Oase and Palace are your top club in 2019, you really surprising me now. I might have to follow your footsteps.
Member #4636
04-24-19, 08:07
I'm pretty sure Palace best casting days are Friday and Saturday evenings. 50 entry before 5 pm.Siri,
Most of my times have been Friday night, I have seen the club crowded and smokey I have also seen the club empty. Saturday I have also been and less people than Friday. I have also been on a Tuesday and it was great. But yes if I had to go only one time in my life to see how it is that would be Friday night around 10 pm. Many girls but also many mongers so this doesn't mean you will have the time of your life.
Member #4636
04-24-19, 17:30
Elisabeth CZ, true loss. So you say Oase and Palace are your top club in 2019, you really surprising me now. I might have to follow your footsteps.Most people will tell you that Sharks is the best, it is all personal taste, it depends what you want and what is most important for you. Some people even care if they can go and watch football LOL.
Elisabeth CZ, true loss. So you say Oase and Palace are your top club in 2019, you really surprising me now. I might have to follow your footsteps.Except Globe, clubs where I had my best girls, but I run only for beauties.
I don't care if it s crowded because not many guys go to pretty girls, most of guys are afraid of pretty girls.
ExpatLover
04-24-19, 19:11
Siri,
Most of my times have been Friday night, I have seen the club crowded and smokey I have also seen the club empty. Saturday I have also been and less people than Friday. I have also been on a Tuesday and it was great. But yes if I had to go only one time in my life to see how it is that would be Friday night around 10 pm. Many girls but also many mongers so this doesn't mean you will have the time of your life.To really enjoy the clubs and the girls, better to arrive early in the morning, weekdays if possible, no alcool, no drugs and just enjoy having sex and leaving before 9 PM the clubs when another kind of guys are coming mostly the guys who are not eating pork. Sorry for that but it is the reality.
Most people will tell you that Sharks is the best, it is all personal taste, it depends what you want and what is most important for you. Some people even care if they can go and watch football LOL.Matter of tastes, but I see Sharks regulars at Oase now and quantity is not quality. At Oase, can play football, but new balls kill feet.
Does anyone know if the following girls are still aktive in Palace?
1. Lisa.
2. Maria.
3. Dominice.
4. Christina.
5. Bianca.
Or any new girls with big natural tits?
Most people will tell you that Sharks is the best, it is all personal taste, it depends what you want and what is most important for you. Some people even care if they can go and watch football LOL.Sharks is the best for sure because it has the complete whole day experience. Always a girl to be found, a good rotation of new girls and upsell is the least worst from all clubs. That said, some special type of beauties are easier to find is palace, Hamburg or Globe sometime. Siri, has a good view of all the clubs and we often liked similar ladies, so I trust his judgement. But yes, of course it is a matter of taste like every other thing in life. Also, some girls at palace quote 200-300 an hour, some guys don't like to go that high. So it really depends. Thanks.
Member #4621
04-26-19, 20:52
I might do Sharks for a few hours then head off to palace for rest of night bear my hotel. Is it any good on a Thurs?
Member #4621
04-26-19, 21:05
Anyone been on a Thursday, what is it like? What is palace like on a late June eve?
Looking to meet Gina and Elisa (blonde, v beautiful, my kind of girl- a reporter here likes same kind of girls and lives or lives in Dubai) and the dragon tattoo lady if they are still there.
I had my first FKK club experience a few years ago and met Gina. Oh my. She looked gorgeous however I was new and got scammed by her friend, a Lebanon / middle eastern babe. I didn't know you could turn down a girl if they offered themselves as a duo, now I'm more experienced I could easily say no but I like you Gina, how about it etc. I'm she still is pretty gorgeous judging by one of my favorite reports ever by a senior reporter here who went with both and possibly another who went with dragon lady.
I think I met Roxy who was my first in a FKK and she was amazing told me about how here is your fantasy you can have whatever you want so I went for 50. Still if I met her again ID double it because she's a legend apparently. Who knows.
Looking forward to checking it out after a couple of years but I don't like the sound of 200+ that sounds unhealthy / greedy.
Does sharks til 9 and then palace sound a bit much or even possible in one night?
Thanks all!
KA.
.............. most of guys are afraid of pretty girls.Because most guys do not want to spend too much money. Which pretty girl gives good service for EUR 50?
Because most guys do not want to spend too much money. Which pretty girl gives good service for EUR 50?I had many pretty girls for club rate, in Hessen or NRW. Many guys think pretty girls will give shit services, when even at Palace with Venezuelan or at Oase repeating last night, glamours beauties can be so generous in bed. As she said at 4 am at the end of our second room of the night, it s not sex but love with you. After asking to come to Paris on our discovery, she wanted we go today for shopping before Easter together, but FKK love, my love as she says in the club in front of her friends, better stay in FKK land, she is just great in the club, not only in bed, I don't want this change because of shopping. After her, I cancel to go to Globe today even great casting, even Katalina who always welcome me, but I don't need another girl at the moment, after our perfect diner and night started before 9 pm and finished after 4 am when woke up at 7 am, and I wish her good shopping for her clothes and family presents with my last night money and good time at home. FKK dreams and I made her becoming a dream for me, but this is not reality. Beauties are my best GF in FKK land, most and she Romanian of course. But love is better only in bed, not out of the club.
ExpatLover
04-27-19, 14:56
Because most guys do not want to spend too much money. Which pretty girl gives good service for EUR 50?Pretty is a matter of eyes, beauty is different from one guy to another, I prefer spending several 100 euros on one girl and getting something memorable than like many times when I speak with guys in the sauna they are telling me they sessionned 10 girls in the last 2 days but remember very few things about each one.
After her, I cancel to go to Globe today even great casting, even Katalina who always welcome me.
Hey Sirioja,
Whilst you are at Globe, if you bump into Elena and Nadira, I'll be interested to hear about your feed back on them as I maybe heading out there again in May and need some fresh recon.
By the way, any recent visitors to Palace seen Lara from Brazil or Mia from Serbia around? Also maybe a Palace visit in May is in the works if they are still there.
Thanks...Howie.
ExpatLover
04-27-19, 19:59
Hey Sirioja,
Whilst you are at Globe, if you bump into Elena and Nadira, I'll be interested to hear about your feed back on them as I maybe heading out there again in May and need some fresh recon.
By the way, any recent visitors to Palace seen Lara from Brazil or Mia from Serbia around? Also planning a Palace visit in May if they are still there.
Thanks...Howie.A little advice never visit any club for a specific girl, you will never now if she will be there or not, never forget if the day before one guy will tell her to go with him for several days in holiday she will not stay in the club, in the far past sometimes I have done it, but today it never happen again, may be I changed or the girls changed but definitively I have not invited any girls to go outside with me since beginning 2018.
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