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Love Handler
05-08-12, 21:44
Anybody know if any of these motels are available in downtown PC, as sometimes a visit to the hotel is not possible.

Any recommendations?

I don't know if Riu Plaza is girl friendly and if they charge extra

Mfins
05-09-12, 02:20
It is walking distance. See Fantasy's map for how to get there:

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?1894-Panama-City&p=624256#post624256Its a ten-fifteen minute walk from Veneto to Habanos, but why walk it in the scorching heat or rain inhaling car fumes the entire time. By the time you get to Habanos your dripping in sweat and smell like you have been sucking on a tale pipe. Its a $3 cab fare. $4-$5 with the gringo tax and cabs are Everywhere! No offense but Are we that cheap guys!

Also, I was in Lima once. Went for 4 days granted I had an awful cold the whole time but I didn't like it all that much. Hotel charged a huge chica fee ($50) and it was hard to find all the semi pros I had heard about. Went to Tequila Rocks and thought that was cool but no different than Habanos or Veneto in PTY. I didn't use Davids service as I like to feel out the product before I buy but perhaps I should have. Maybe I just didn't do it right but it was a little over rated and not much different than PTY for me.

Doc Bill
05-09-12, 07:21
Mfins. You did everything wrong in Lima. Next time ask me first. First you had a cold, then you stayed at a wrong hotel (apartments are the way to go there, even for short-term) , and Tequila Rocks sucks. Amateur hour. Just a stroll through the park or the mall or the department store and you will find all you could possibly want / need. Going rate is about S / 200, roughly $67 for a couple of hours. I've used David too and have not been disappointed. Now I just know his girls and contact them myself (which he is fine with).

Guys, thanks for the info on getting to Habanos. Clearly a cab is the way to go, although I probably shouldn't take one right outside of Veneto. On the other hand, it seems like I might find all I need right there at my hotel. But I'll branch out, just for you, Rippa!

Thanks all!

Tiny 12
05-09-12, 19:10
Its a ten-fifteen minute walk from Veneto to Habanos, but why walk it in the scorching heat or rain inhaling car fumes the entire time. By the time you get to Habanos your dripping in sweat and smell like you have been sucking on a tale pipe. Its a $3 cab fare. $4-$5 with the gringo tax and cabs are Everywhere! No offense but Are we that cheap guys!
If I walk straight through, it's a 5 or 10 minute walk for me, never in the scorching heat (since it's at night) and if there's rain I have sense to take a taxi, for which I might pay $2 or $3. But I'll typically check out any streetwalkers on Via Veneto, maybe look into Oasis or a strip club, or stop by the casino at El Panama or the Riande Continental, all of which are on the way, kind of. I might continue on, walking, to Le Palace, or even Elite and the clubs on Calle Uruguay. No offense, but Are we that lazy and out of shape guys!

Tiny 12
05-09-12, 19:28
Anybody know if any of these motels are available in downtown PC, as sometimes a visit to the hotel is not possible.

Any recommendations?

I don't know if Riu Plaza is girl friendly and if they charge extraI've read here about one place downtown but don't remember the name. Maybe someone will chime in. I've used Hotel Montreal for that purpose, but it's not cheap, around $40. I've stayed at the Riu. They were anal about getting my younger girlfriend to check in and provide her I. D. Although they're reputedly not girl friendly, I did see three or four women with older male gentlemen that I thought were hookers in the place, and they get a lot of traffic through the lobby. My guess is that you won't have a problem if your date is dressed reasonably well. If she's dressed like a **** and you're coming back at 3:00 AM when the place is deserted then you likely will.

Tp Horn
05-09-12, 19:30
I visited an old standby last weekend: River Club.

I hadn't been in years, and it's still the same: $70 for an hour in a room with a dumpy bed but a clean bath with a hot shower. I had a very friendly, blondish, curvy paisa. She had a couple extra pounds, but ample natural titties. She started with a BBBJ, which I found surprising. Enjoyable experience all around.

To me it's a poor man's Golden Time, but I appreciate its proximity and reasonable privacy: no hoardes of strip mall patrons to gawk at you entering the brothel.

Mfins
05-10-12, 01:59
If I walk straight through, it's a 5 or 10 minute walk for me, never in the scorching heat (since it's at night) and if there's rain I have sense to take a taxi, for which I might pay $2 or $3. But I'll typically check out any streetwalkers on Via Veneto, maybe look into Oasis or a strip club, or stop by the casino at El Panama or the Riande Continental, all of which are on the way, kind of. I might continue on, walking, to Le Palace, or even Elite and the clubs on Calle Uruguay. No offense, but Are we that lazy and out of shape guys!It is certainly all wakable very true. And I for one am very lazy especially on vacation and after I have some beer in me. Can hit all those places and save the sweating, for about $5. 00.

But too each his own! We all have different tastes.

The cabs in front of Veneto are all safe. You won't have any problem, but like a prior poster said get in one of the yellow cabs on the street, not a fancy cab car or van they will charge you 5-10 times the normal rate. Have fun!

Mfins
05-10-12, 02:03
Mfins. You did everything wrong in Lima. Next time ask me first. First you had a cold, then you stayed at a wrong hotel (apartments are the way to go there, even for short-term) , and Tequila Rocks sucks. Amateur hour. Just a stroll through the park or the mall or the department store and you will find all you could possibly want / need. Going rate is about S / 200, roughly $67 for a couple of hours. I've used David too and have not been disappointed. Now I just know his girls and contact them myself (which he is fine with).

Guys, thanks for the info on getting to Habanos. Clearly a cab is the way to go, although I probably shouldn't take one right outside of Veneto. On the other hand, it seems like I might find all I need right there at my hotel. But I'll branch out, just for you, Rippa!

Thanks all!Doc- THanks. You know I am not a bad looking dude, and I hear from a lot of people talking about how they are able to find semi-pros in malls, parks et. Not just in Peru but other countries. Certainly I have seen pretty young girls in malls but, how to even approach them and ask if they are up for pay for play. I definately can play it cool but it seems as though it would take a lot of trying before you actually found one that is willing and able. Just seems like too much work to me, maybe I am missing something.

Werspe
05-10-12, 08:34
Hi all.

Is the Le Meridien Hotel chica friendly?

MikeKelimir
05-11-12, 09:08
guys. i have been a lurker here for quite a while and i usually don't post much because i don't really have much to offer (sorry!). i have been to costa rica maybe 50 times and have a small house there, so i'm familiar at least with the way things are done there.

that being said, i've ready a ton of information on panama and i'm still lost as far as how to get a game plan together. can someone help me?

i am younger, and my idea of a 8, 9.10 is along the lines of the chicks in transformer movies or on the cover of playboy. thinner model types. i know that's relatively unrealistic, but can someone let me know if they only had 7 days in panama: 1) what is a good city, city-area and name of place to stay if you want to go to dance clubs but not get raped on price. 2) what are the places where the better looking working-girls go? and finally 3) is there a 24-hour bar place (like the del ray in costa rica or the strip clubs in colombia) where you can just head to at 3am if the night clubs don't produce free girls?

again, i've read all the posts here and i'm still feeling like i don't have a solid grasp on how things work here.

Tiny 12
05-12-12, 23:53
Mike, Colombia fits the bill better for what you describe than Panama. Medellin has hot, more professional (like hooker professional) women and is cheap. Cartagena has more of the 24 hour freelancer scene you're looking for and is more expensive. Most of the really hot, model looking professionals in Panama come from Colombia BTW.

If it's going to be Panama though, Calle Uruguay has a lot of clubs. You'd probably be staying in Cangrejo. Las Vegas Suites, Torres de Alba and Hotel Ejecutivo are in the general area and are among the cheaper, nice options. I've gotten a good deal at Plaza Paitilla, which is in the Punta Paitilla area, not Cangrejo, and if the traffic is bad it can be a little slow to get from there to the areas with the clubs and the hookers. Better looking freelancers go to Veneto Casino, Habano, and from some reports here to Club Ache. For the best looking professionals, who won't be freelancers, try Golden Time MP, which is an affordable option, and the strip clubs Le Palace and Elite, which are not affordable unless you line up something for the next day. Late night around 3 AM the selection isn't all that great. Maybe try the Veneto for freelancers or Golden Time for a MP.

There is nothing comparable to the Del Rey. The Veneto Casino maybe comes closest, but it's a poor substitute.

Bobbybjack
05-14-12, 21:19
Veneto to Habanos is less than 2 blocks. If you are taking a taxi for $2-$5 for less than 2 blocks, I don't know what to say. I am disappointed to say the least.

Tiny 12
05-15-12, 05:52
I think nothing of tipping $1. Or even $2 if it's raining or if the taxi driver has sex with me without a condom. I know I'm running the price up and spoiling it for everyone else, but I don't care.

Mfins
05-16-12, 03:35
Veneto to Habanos is less than 2 blocks. If you are taking a taxi for $2-$5 for less than 2 blocks, I don't know what to say. I am disappointed to say the least.I think your being sarcastic and I like your style but if not- for $3. 00 I am happy to pay a cab for a 5 minute ride, save the sweat, get some ac. Avoid getting hit by a car (as a pedestrian walking in the street) and with the way people in Panama drive getting hit and honked at is a very real possibility and not spill the beer I am carrying while walking.

It shocks me how cheap some people are on this forum. Not just the difference between walking and a cab because that is not a big deal and maybe some people like to walk but I mean to go all the way to a specifice country and just be a freakin cheap skate is pathetic. Don't over pay of course not. Don't accept $200 when $100 will do but is it worth haggling over $5 or $10 when the price gets to $100. Is $90 or $95 going to make you feel that much better. I can't tell you how many hot chicks have walked away over $10 or $20 and I thought I was making a stand. Turns out later that night and the next day I am kicking myself for being stubborn. Go to the market and haggle over trinkets thats normal, or make a deal with a girl and be assertive with what you want cool, but to nickle and dime and feel good that you saved $5 is non sense. A lot of Mongers say don't over pay it spoils the girls. TRUE but so does haggling over pennies. It makes them in the future start higher than normal and it hardens them up. Your on vacation have fun, you can pinch pennies at home. By the way, No disrespect to anyone on this board. Just my Opinion.

GauntMan
05-16-12, 05:28
guys. i have been a lurker here for quite a while and i usually don't post much because i don't really have much to offer (sorry!). i have been to costa rica maybe 50 times and have a small house there, so i'm familiar at least with the way things are done there.

that being said, i've ready a ton of information on panama and i'm still lost as far as how to get a game plan together. can someone help me?

i am younger, and my idea of a 8, 9.10 is along the lines of the chicks in transformer movies or on the cover of playboy. thinner model types. i know that's relatively unrealistic, but can someone let me know if they only had 7 days in panama: 1) what is a good city, city-area and name of place to stay if you want to go to dance clubs but not get raped on price. 2) what are the places where the better looking working-girls go? and finally 3) is there a 24-hour bar place (like the del ray in costa rica or the strip clubs in colombia) where you can just head to at 3am if the night clubs don't produce free girls?

again, i've read all the posts here and i'm still feeling like i don't have a solid grasp on how things work here.1. le palace. pack a very fat wallet. don't take out, set for afterwork.

2. venetto, habanos, ashe and la bodeguita.

3. no 24 hours, we are screwed with the carrot law, however, you can stock on some booze before hand, leave in your room, and you can come back when the law kicks in

GauntMan
05-16-12, 16:21
1. Le Palace. Pack a VERY FAT wallet. Don't take out, set for afterwork.

2. Venetto, Habanos, Ashe and La Bodeguita.

3. NO 24 hours, we are screwed with the Carrot Law, however, you can stock on some booze before hand, leave in your room, and you can come back when the law kicks in
Sorry for the double post. As for #1 on dance clubs, stay near calle uruguay area, that means, The Exexcutive, Venetto and its surroundings, Marriot. Best clubs / bars are in this area. If you feel that you are been ripped on the final tab, you can always check with the manager to verify the amount that is been billed. I.E beers would go around 3-4$ depending on club, drink might go between 5-9$ depending on club and liquor, bottles might range between $55 and up, depending on liquor

Seismo
05-16-12, 18:52
Sorry for the double post. As for #1 on dance clubs, stay near calle uruguay area, that means, The Exexcutive, Venetto and its surroundings, Marriot. Best clubs / bars are in this area. If you feel that you are been ripped on the final tab, you can always check with the manager to verify the amount that is been billed. I.E beers would go around 3-4$ depending on club, drink might go between 5-9$ depending on club and liquor, bottles might range between $55 and up, depending on liquorTo avoid problems with the final bill, it is best not to keep a running tab but to pay for drinks as you get them.

Remember: Drunken tourists with limited Spanish = padded checks!

Snipps
05-16-12, 22:29
1. Le Palace. Pack a VERY FAT wallet. Don't take out, set for afterwork.

2. Venetto, Habanos, Ashe and La Bodeguita.

3. NO 24 hours, we are screwed with the Carrot Law, however, you can stock on some booze before hand, leave in your room, and you can come back when the law kicks inHi when I was there a few weeks ago La Bodeguita was closed due to a shooting. Not sure if its still open. Anybody with any new updates of Veneto / Panama city. Was horrible when I went. Thanks

Nixonbd
05-17-12, 00:21
Veneto to Habanos is less than 2 blocks. If you are taking a taxi for $2-$5 for less than 2 blocks, I don't know what to say. I am disappointed to say the least.Maybe when you're drunk it's two blocks, LOL. More in the four block range and having to cross the main thoroughfare on foot is taking your life in your own hands. Walk down a block from the Veneto and and pay no more that $2, you'll find a cab. I would tip a dollar anyway, but that's just me.

Iguana Six
05-17-12, 02:46
i've read a ton of information on panama and i'm still lost as far as how to get a game plan together. can someone help me?

i am younger, and my idea of a 8, 9.10 is along the lines of the chicks in transformer movies or on the. can someone let me know if they only had 7 days in panama: 1) what is a good city, city-area and name of place to stay if you want to go to dance clubs but not get raped on price. 2) what are the places where the better looking working-girls go? and finally 3) is there a 24-hour bar place (like the del ray in costa rica or the strip clubs in colombia) where you can just head to at 3am if the night clubs don't produce free girls?

again, i've read all the posts here and i'm still feeling like i don't have a solid grasp on how things work here.you can have a very jazzy week in panama. if i were doing it, i would.

- arrive in the middle of the week and leave in the middle of the next week. that way you can session up front, rest & recover on sunday, and finish strong.

- drop the unrealistic expectations of playboy models and transformer movies. like sir-mix-alot said,"don't talk to me about playboy, because silicon parts are made for toys!" and you will not be able to bring your airbrush with you. there is no "photoshop" feature for ticas.

- get the best rate you can for the veneto hotel. it is like the del rey, but better. in that it is ground zero, chica friendly, the lunch specials in the casino cannot be beat, and the 7's. 8's, and 9's will hang out there in search of the guy that will pay them $150 for short time.

- that said, be adventurous. take a cab less than a mile away to the love hotel across from the hospital and the mall. los arcos. it has everything you need. clean room, comfortable bed, hot water, air con, three porn channels on the cable tv, sound proofing, mood lighting, mood music. for less than $40 a night, but it does not take reservations. you go, and if they have a vacant room, you got a room. otherwise, wait until one empties out. the most i have had to wait is 40 minutes. no chica fee. it is a love hotel. but absolutely no three ways, just couples! it is after all, a "family" joint, one where respectable middle class businessmen and salarymen bring their mistresses, or a married couple can escape an apartment full of inlaws and kids for a romantic afternoon or "date night", or young people can escape their families / college dorm / prying eyes (because they don't own cars). i have stayed there, but walked to the veneto neighborhoood to hang out. save money without crimping your style.

- avoid the taxis in front of the veneto or other 4-star hotel. expensive, and unless you are one of the nerds on "big bang theory", you don't need a mongering tour guide. but do avail yourself of an experienced wingman if you meet one. no taxi ride within town should cost more than $3 during the day, but i have paid $4-5 at night for that 7 mile trek from golden time / the fantastic casino / chinatown to veneto after 10pm.

- do check out habanos at night. if you are looking for "dimes" they will be there. usually they are colombian and have worked their way from the minor leagues to majors to the international circuit. they will ask for "cien" or more if you look like an atm.

- do check out the casino at veneto often, at different times of the night. it could be barren at 9:15pm, but full of great possibilities at 10:30pm.

- do take advantage of the diversity of restaurants: two excellent arab ones (one across the street from habanos) , a good cuban restaurant (and the other middle east restaurant) a block or two away from the river club and relax oriental mp's (both are dumps, but they are usually the gate way for new girls and i have found diamonds in the rough there several times) , and some excellent japanese and sushi places. the food court by the entry to the veneto has a little of everything, from inexpensive local lunches to subway!

- go to golden time. whether it will have a platoon of colombian 9's and 10's on duty from 7pm to 6am has much to do with hemispheric economic conditions, it is the best run mp in the time zone, and i have gone upstairs 90% of the time i have gone, and been very, very pleased 85% of the time i have gone upstairs. a couple of gt girls have become favoritas that i have continued to see outside of gt, even outside of panama. when you go, please have the cabby take you to the casino fantastic in el dorado / chinatown, go inside, wait for him to go away with another fare, and then walk up the hill and across the street to golden time. this will save you $10-30 dollars of "gringo tax" on you $84 dollar session at gt. go from the casino, to the taco bell / kfc, to the mcdonalds, cross the street to the church's fried chicken, and into the strip mall to gt. a blind man could do it with a dog, a cane, and a sense of smell for fast food.

- somebody please go to goldfingers about five blocks away and give a review. two blocks from the fant casino is miami club, a strip club with cabins in the back.

- both gt and mc are owned by expat chinese. if you can pass for chinese to a panamanian who can't tell the difference between a korean / japanese / singaporean you will get a huge asian discount, half off. just look asian, speak accented but halting spanish, and dress like a local.

- try the oasis mp on the same street as the veneto. go to their web site and print out their coupons. try their lunch special ($50 for an hour befor 2pm). i have found diamonds in the rough, a hot milf, a hot divorcee down on her luck, and college students there.

- there is no such thing as a bad internet cafe in panama. panama has great communications link ups. they have to, the world banks there and half the world's ships are registered there. cheap phone calls and great internet connections for pocket change. on some trips, i did not bring my lap top. i didn't have to pay $10 a night for internet connection when the cafes were open 20 hours a day.

- do buy a cheap local cell phone at the chinese owned shops for less than $15, buy some time, and ask for 4-for-1 days (or better) for buying recharge cards. there a different promotions on different days, so when you get a 3/4/5-for-one day, re-up. you can use your phone to call overseas for little money.

- walk a few blocks away from ground zero to find your neighborhood pharmacy (not a tourist oriented one) to buy your pills. rx's are not needed for most stuff. just 150 meters from the restuarant across the street from the food court near the veneto down a long, unbroken street is a neighborhood laundromat. they charge you by the pound to drop of your laundry, wash, dry, and fold. overnight service, same day if you come early and pick up late. 3-4 lbs for less than $5. 00. bring your soap / dryer sheet and cut that price in half. there are little neighborhood convenience stores (usually chinese owned) where you can buy your fruits, pinapple juice, baked goods, and other sundries and snacks. but a couple of blocks away on the big main street is a huge supermarket that is good too, with a deli! and near there is where i can find not one, but two shoe-shine guys who will give you a spit shine for just $2!

- when you arrive at the airport and have cleared customs / immigration, go upstairs, find a cab that is dropping people off, wait for the cop to be distracted and offer the cabbie $20-25 to take you to the hotel, but insist he take the toll road (unless it is not morning or afternoon rush hour). if he is cool, honest, and has a nice cab, make him "your cabbie" and call him when you need a cab, especially at night.

- touristy things: take a favorita to have lunch by the canal locks and walk through the museum. you can eat and look out the window while a huge ship is going up and down the "water elevator." shop at the mall at the former allbrook air force base. walk around the national university near the veneto during the day (when they are not having a poltiical rally) and try your hand at picking up co-eds.

- if you are going to panama, then you can also do a side trip to medellin. there are direct flights, and if i did have a week, i would spend half a week in panama and half a week in medellin. if i were going for the first time, i would fly into medellin on a sunday and check into one of the casablanca bed / breakfasts (the former medellin mansion) so i wouldn't feel like a paratrooper behind enemy lines. good digs, good breakfast, the company of other guests, conveniently located, tours of the day time casas, quiet at night so you can sleep, there are the "mansion girls" you can have come over, there are day time tours of the "casas" or mps, and at night you can meet the medellin 8's. 9's, and "dimes" while they are still young and "farm fresh" in their natural habitats: parque lleras, discos, night time casas, etc.

Walker076
05-17-12, 04:01
I have some points to burn for hotels for a trip coming up in about a week, can someone please confirm if the Miramar Intercontinental is still girl friendly. It sounded ok from some reviews from a few years ago, but could not tell more recently. Thanks for you help.

Joey Smith
05-19-12, 15:34
I have some points to burn for hotels for a trip coming up in about a week, can someone please confirm if the Miramar Intercontinental is still girl friendly. It sounded ok from some reviews from a few years ago, but could not tell more recently. Thanks for you help.I stayed there over a year ago and brought two different girls in late at nite. Wasn't a problem then. I would just ensure she is dressed appropriately. Just be discreet and it shouldn't be an issue.

The Dirty Pirate
05-21-12, 20:28
Was at Golden Fingers last May, basically it's a rip off of Golden Time with a fraction of the chicks and a much smaller venue for the same price. I had a 19 year old who was stunning but definitely not very fun, might be worth looking at since everything is all in the same area.

Iguana Six
05-22-12, 03:48
Was at Golden Fingers last May, basically it's a rip off of Golden Time with a fraction of the chicks and a much smaller venue for the same price. I had a 19 year old who was stunning but definitely not very fun, might be worth looking at since everything is all in the same area.What was the quality of the talent at Goldfingers? Colombianas or local providers? What did they charge you? What was the ratio of stunners to just average?

Doc Bill
05-22-12, 05:13
This place has more opportunity than I thought. It feels like CR in the golden days. Ok, well, almost. I felt like a kid today. I had FOUR encounters. Ok, sort of. Two were just latincupid dates that only costed me a couple of drinks. But the other two were good. Not stellar, but good. First, let me get this off my chest. What is this bs about BBBJ "causing" bacteria? That must be going around because every girl I talk to says the same thing, as if bacteria is a bad thing. We would be dead without bacteria, and in fact the bacteria from oral sex, with very few exceptions, are completely harmless. No more dangerous than shaking hands. Ok, there, that felt good.

I went to Oasis today and the asshole at the window didn't tell me that there was a half-hour option so I paid $42 for the one-hour which I needed like a new heartache. A HJ was $40, which I went for, oral $50, and "sex" $60. Of course after it was all done she told me about the half hour option and if you go before 2:30 it's half-price entry, meaning $21. All in all though, the Cali Colombian (like I need to say that?) was fun and it was a worthwhile experience. Later in the casino (Veneto, where I'm staying) a very young spinner approached me and told me she was Panamanian, as if that was supposed to impress me, which it did. She took my offer of $80 in a heartbeat, could have got her for $60 I'm sure. It was worth the visuals, but performance was lackluster and would not repeat. By the way, though, she WAS Panamanian, a rarety around here. But who cares. There's nothing like a Paisa.

The "normal" dates were just too boring to even write about here, so I'll spare you. I'm on my way back downstairs. If I can pull another one in one day it'll be a mid-life record.

Iguana Six
05-23-12, 01:14
Th.

I went to Oasis today and the asshole at the window didn't tell me that there was a half-hour option so I paid $42 for the one-hour which I needed like a new heartache. A HJ was $40, which I went for, oral $50, and "sex" $60. Of course after it was all done she told me about the half hour option and if you go before 2:30 it's half-price entry, meaning $21.Wait, wait, wait. You mean to tell me that Oasis has changed its price structure? Now, you pay for entry and time ($42 for an hour?) and THEN you have negotiate a second price for HJ, BJ, and FS? Is this a new pricing system?

Since 2004, what you paid at the front desk for half or a full hour was the price. If the providers are now charging a second price, then this is the worst case of upselling ever!

Tiny 12
05-23-12, 19:01
I haven't been to Oasis in a year but, for an hour, $42 or $21 before 2:30 PM would be a lot less than it used to be. I think it used to be around $80 for an hour, or $50 if you went before 2:30, and that included everything. However, if you went before 2:30 PM, you better be prepared to tip or your date would try to get you out the door as soon as humanly possible. It sounds like they dropped their prices, but now the base price is for massage only.

Iguana Six
05-24-12, 05:19
I haven't been to Oasis in a year but, for an hour, $42 or $21 before 2:30 PM would be a lot less than it used to be. I think it used to be around $80 for an hour, or $50 if you went before 2:30, and that included everything. However, if you went before 2:30 PM, you better be prepared to tip or your date would try to get you out the door as soon as humanly possible. It sounds like they dropped their prices, but now the base price is for massage only.So if the entry is $42 and the provider wants $60 for FS, then they are asking for more than $100! It is $84 at Golden Time, and the quality of the facility and the talent is much better.

Doc Bill
05-24-12, 05:33
Yes, Iguana, I reported exactly what happened. In fact the guy at the window made it abundantly clear that the price for the girls was separate.
Does anyone know if Moulin Rouge is any better. They are right next door but appear to be closed all the time.

N9049
05-26-12, 02:34
Can anyone recommend a 2br apartment close to habaneros? I am looking for something in walking distance or a short cab ride.

Thanks

Tbuss
05-26-12, 05:42
So if the entry is $42 and the provider wants $60 for FS, then they are asking for more than $100! It is $84 at Golden Time, and the quality of the facility and the talent is much better.Golden Time is now apparently $107. They say there is no surcharge anymore if you take a cab, but I don't know if I believe that or not.

Zippy
05-28-12, 04:23
If there are any mongers currently in Panama City, please send me a PM. I have a favor to ask (with compensation).

Thanks!

Tbuss
05-29-12, 04:28
Yes, Iguana, I reported exactly what happened. In fact the guy at the window made it abundantly clear that the price for the girls was separate.

Does anyone know if Moulin Rouge is any better. They are right next door but appear to be closed all the time.Moulin Rouge and Doll House were closed a year ago as a result of a police action. I've seen some cleaning up going on in the respective buildings, so maybe someone else is going to open something up there soon. Based on the history, it's unlikely to be adult entertainment though.

Love Handler
05-29-12, 20:30
I was in PC last week and I headed over to the Vento at 10. 30pm. After walking around for 20 minutes I really didn't see much on offer compared to last time so headed on down to Habanos.

It was desperate stuff there also not like a month ago but I learned later that the cops had been raiding regularly and that was why many girls were staying away.

I headed back to the Veneto at 11. 20 and my had it changed in an hour. There was much more talent on offer. I bumped into a girl Fernanda who was at Elite last month and was now freelancing. I wanted to fuck her last time but not at Elite prices. I paid $150 which is rather expensive for the veneto however bearing in mind she wanted $350 before, her lovely tits and promise to do BBBJ made me relent. I won't do that again, although I won't cry over 50 bucks. I didn't waste too much time and money on drinks.

We went to Los Arcos which is a close cheap love motel. I paid $12 for the room. In the room I learned that Fernanda was a veteran puta asking for the money up front but even so the blowjob was okay and the sex pretty good, although the girl I had last time for $80 was much better. Luck of the draw in this game.

The Veneto is really dependant on what time you arrive and this time its seems the cops were having an impact on supply. If you go there and don't see much that you like give it an hour before looking somewhere else. The beer is cheap and they have a live band most nights.

The Dirty Pirate
05-30-12, 21:23
What was the quality of the talent at Goldfingers? Colombianas or local providers? What did they charge you? What was the ratio of stunners to just average?It was like 90 bucks for an hour or so, like the same as GT, providers were Colombianas, they had numbers and were paraded in front of me as I had a beer. They only had like 8 girls when I was there and it was a Saturday night. I would say it's worth a look inside at least.

Dickhead
06-07-12, 03:52
Was at Habanos last night, arriving around 11 PM. There were about 40 chicas there, including two of the fattest hookers I have ever seen in my life. About 60-70% were do-able, depending on BAC. I was sober so I picked a very cute one, maybe an 8. From Manizales, lives in Bogotá, first time in Panamá. Said she did not want to work at Veneto because she knew someone who went there, who knows her family. She had nice natural titties but silicone in her ass, which she tried to tell me was muscle from the gym. Like I don't know the difference. But she probably does work out. Said she was 26, I think 31. Used the name Viviana. Very very short, like 150 cm, and of course was wearing huge heels. I was drinking Balboas at $4.50 and she had a Corona for $5.50. Always a good sign when the chica orders beer instead of some overpriced bullshit. Had to use a taxi even though my hotel is two blocks away, due to the heels and the absurdly poor quality of the sidewalks. Talked for quite a while before I asked for a price, which she did everything in her power to avoid giving directly. No, baby, it's not "up to me"; it's up to YOU. $150. No. "I get a million COP for TLN in Bogotá." Well, I doubt that, but I don't want TLN and we are not in Colombia. Anyway she took $100 without too much fight, even after I told her no MIF and not to expect a tip.

Nice gal, fun, good attitude. Everything covered, LFK, a little mutual massage afterwards. Likes to drink beer which works for me. I had plenty on hand and we drank it all. Then it was 3 AM and there were no taxis so I left her in the lobby and went out and hunted one down. Guy had his light on but had a gal in the front seat, who was his wife or GF I am sure. Said he had to drop her off first and would be back in fifteen minutes. I pointed out that he had his light on and started writing his number down and he said okay okay. This gal had no idea where she was but she did not live far away. Cabbie said $6 and I said that address was only 10 blocks away (I was bluffing) and he said $5 and I said $4. Okay okay. Of course all the money she had was the $100 I had given her so I did have to pony up the $4. So with first cab and the drink I bought her it ended up being $113 plus she drank I think 5 of my 55 cent beers. Ranks right around average in all my experiences world wide.

The climate here is unbearable to me and I am glad I am only spending two days here. I will be back for one night on the way out and will probably go to Veneto. On the plus side this is the cheapest beer I have seen in like 20 years. $2. 94 a six pack plus 10% tax and I like the Balboa, with which I am familiar from some prior trips through the airport. This is my first time in Panamá and I hope the central highlands are better. Panamá City is not on my repeat list.

Seismo
06-07-12, 05:16
If you are still in Panama City, you must go to LA MAYOR.

Every cab driver knows where it is. No more than $5 cabfare from Veneto. Beers are $1, chica drinks are $1. 50- 2. 00.

Opens 8am? Huge selection of women at $12 per 15 minutes. This is your type of place!

Dickhead
06-07-12, 13:03
Leaving right now but might try it on the way back. While I was with Viviana some other colombiana she had met (but did not know from Colombia) was texting her wanting to borrow money for rent. Viviana said she was working in some bar where the guys paid $15-20 but she did not know the name of it. That sounds like the place. I don't know if that is my thing any more but I might check it out when I come back through. Thanks! You are the guy who turned me on to Oro 2280, rest its soul (it is now a parrilla, like Buenos Aires needs another one). You always give great advice.

Snipps
06-07-12, 19:34
Leaving right now but might try it on the way back. While I was with Viviana some other colombiana she had met (but did not know from Colombia) was texting her wanting to borrow money for rent. Viviana said she was working in some bar where the guys paid $15-20 but she did not know the name of it. That sounds like the place. I don't know if that is my thing any more but I might check it out when I come back through. Thanks! You are the guy who turned me on to Oro 2280, rest its soul (it is now a parrilla, like Buenos Aires needs another one). You always give great advice.Nice post, that was my impression last time I was in Panama scene has changed a lot. How would you describe the Veneto action at night?

Rippa
06-07-12, 21:00
Was at Habanos last night, arriving around 11 PM. There were about 40 chicas there, including two of the fattest hookers I have ever seen in my life. About 60-70% were do-able, depending on BAC. I was sober so I picked a very cute one, maybe an 8. From Manizales, lives in Bogotá, first time in Panamá. Said she did not want to work at Veneto because she knew someone who went there, who knows her family. She had nice natural titties but silicone in her ass, which she tried to tell me was muscle from the gym. Like I don't know the difference. But she probably does work out. Said she was 26, I think 31. Used the name Viviana. Very very short, like 150 cm, and of course was wearing huge heels. I was drinking Balboas at $4. 50 and she had a Corona for $5. 50. Always a good sign when the chica orders beer instead of some overpriced bullshit. Had to use a taxi even though my hotel is two blocks away, due to the heels and the absurdly poor quality of the sidewalks. Talked for quite a while before I asked for a price, which she did everything in her power to avoid giving directly. No, baby, it's not "up to me"; it's up to YOU. $150. No."I get a million COP for TLN in Bogotá." Well, I doubt that, but I don't want TLN and we are not in Colombia. Anyway she took $100 without too much fight, even after I told her no MIF and not to expect a tip.

Nice gal, fun, good attitude. Everything covered, LFK, a little mutual massage afterwards. Likes to drink beer which works for me. I had plenty on hand and we drank it all. Then it was 3 AM and there were no taxis so I left her in the lobby and went out and hunted one down. Guy had his light on but had a gal in the front seat, who was his wife or GF I am sure. Said he had to drop her off first and would be back in fifteen minutes. I pointed out that he had his light on and started writing his number down and he said okay okay. This gal had no idea where she was but she did not live far away. Cabbie said $6 and I said that address was only 10 blocks away (I was bluffing) and he said $5 and I said $4. Okay okay. Of course all the money she had was the $100 I had given her so I did have to pony up the $4. So with first cab and the drink I bought her it ended up being $113 plus she drank I think 5 of my 55 cent beers. Ranks right around average in all my experiences world wide.

The climate here is unbearable to me and I am glad I am only spending two days here. I will be back for one night on the way out and will probably go to Veneto. On the plus side this is the cheapest beer I have seen in like 20 years. $2. 94 a six pack plus 10% tax and I like the Balboa, with which I am familiar from some prior trips through the airport. This is my first time in Panamá and I hope the central highlands are better. Panamá City is not on my repeat list.Never met a monger on this site with a more appropriate handle than yours, 'Dick'. You spend valuable print space on this thread telling us how you beat a cabbie out of a couple of bucks at 3 AM in a 3rd world country (?) And I wonder why Panamanians still tolerate Norte Americanos as much as they do.

As has been covered here on this forum many times before, Panama City is probably on no one's 'Greatest Mongering Cities on Earth' list, but compared to much of the rest of the world. 1st or 3rd, more than a few of us think it's still pretty damn good. A quick read back through some of your posts over the last year shows a lot of condescending spelling lessons in Spanish for we lesser bilinguals, a fascinating revelation that you are a 'helmet not an ant-eater', and a LOT of trashing of other countries in general such as Mexico. Frankly, my boy, if you treat the ladies the same way you treat your mates here on this website, you just make it all the more difficult for the rest of us fun-loving Punters to have a good time overseas.

When you state 'Panama City is not on my repeat list', I strongly suspect it's a promise more than a few Panamanias and Colombianas you met fervently hope you keep.

Tbuss
06-08-12, 14:26
Never met a monger on this site with a more appropriate handle than yours, 'Dick'. You spend valuable print space on this thread telling us how you beat a cabbie out of a couple of bucks at 3 AM in a 3rd world country (?) And I wonder why Panamanians still tolerate Norte Americanos as much as they do.

As has been covered here on this forum many times before, Panama City is probably on no one's 'Greatest Mongering Cities on Earth' list, but compared to much of the rest of the world. 1st or 3rd, more than a few of us think it's still pretty damn good. A quick read back through some of your posts over the last year shows a lot of condescending spelling lessons in Spanish for we lesser bilinguals, a fascinating revelation that you are a 'helmet not an ant-eater', and a LOT of trashing of other countries in general such as Mexico. Frankly, my boy, if you treat the ladies the same way you treat your mates here on this website, you just make it all the more difficult for the rest of us fun-loving Punters to have a good time overseas.

When you state 'Panama City is not on my repeat list', I strongly suspect it's a promise more than a few Panamanias and Colombianas you met fervently hope you keep.I don't know what Dickhead's previous posts were like, but I don't see too much wrong with this one. IMHO, he is doing a lot more to help mongering than hurt it. As for "beating" the cabbie out of a few dollars- he was combating rampant gringo taxing. The taxi ride should have likely been $1. 50 or so, if the thieving taxista gets $6 a few times then his rip-off rate for US guys goes to $8, better to put these thieves in their place early and often in terms of blatant overcharging. Same thing goes for a lot of the girls- over the last 8 years prices have gone way up and attitude and service have gone way down. Treating them like princess primadonnas and paying whatever they ask and many times tipping on top of it is a lot of what has caused both those dynamics.

Dickhead
06-08-12, 14:44
Actually it was not gringo pricing as I was not taking the cab. He was trying to take advantage of the fact the colombiana did not know where she was. And, it was her money and not mine (in theory, but as I said she did not have enough $1 bills so I assisted her). Plus, the guy was on his way home, obviously, since his GF or wife was in the car (in the front seat) , so it was all gravy for him. Any place the cabs don't have meters, I am going to negotiate the price. I certainly have not trashed México, where I used to live. I just think it's too dangerous right now but if anyone wants to ignore the reality of the violence there now, have fun.

Tbuss
06-08-12, 16:02
Actually it was not gringo pricing as I was not taking the cab. He was trying to take advantage of the fact the colombiana did not know where she was. And, it was her money and not mine (in theory, but as I said she did not have enough $1 bills so I assisted her). Plus, the guy was on his way home, obviously, since his GF or wife was in the car (in the front seat) , so it was all gravy for him. Any place the cabs don't have meters, I am going to negotiate the price. I certainly have not trashed México, where I used to live. I just think it's too dangerous right now but if anyone wants to ignore the reality of the violence there now, have fun.If you were with the girl when the taxista discussed price it was more than likely gringo pricing. For $6 you could go twice as far as the Albrook Mall.

Dickhead
06-08-12, 19:52
Well, either way he was inflating the price. What that one guy thinks 3 AM has to do with it is not clear to me since that should be a lower price since there is no traffic and therefore it will be quicker. But I wanted to get rid of her at that point and I would have had to go back and find another cab. $6 is the price I negotiated to go to Albrook yesterday, after the hotel taxi quoted me $10 (showed me some bullshit "official" price list, at which point I knew I would not use him no matter what) and then said he would take $8. The taxi on the street quoted me $8, I countered with $5, and he took $6. That was the third taxi who turned down $5. BTW the two gals who worked at a travel agency I visited to get bus info got into a big argument when one said a taxi to Albrook would be $2. The other said it would be at least $4 and the first one said only a "boba" would pay that and then they started yelling at each other so I left. I don´t like places with non-metered taxis but I use taxis so seldom it's not a big issue. I would have taken the diablo rojo to Albrook but that would have delayed me by an hour and put me in David after dark. I don´t like showing up in a new place at night with baggage and no hotel reservation. I've done it but I don't like it.

Tiny 12
06-10-12, 06:38
Never met a monger on this site with a more appropriate handle than yours, 'Dick'. You spend valuable print space on this thread telling us how you beat a cabbie out of a couple of bucks at 3 AM in a 3rd world country (?) And I wonder why Panamanians still tolerate Norte Americanos as much as they do.While I have no idea where Dickhead's date was headed, I suspect most Panamanians would have beat more than a couple of bucks out of the cabbie.

YoungAnd
06-10-12, 07:13
Hey everyone, long time lurker and mongerer here. I've been to most of the big mongering spots in the city (GT, Carribean, Royal Elegance, Veneto, Habanos.) , and I was wondering if anyone knows any good alternatives in the city. I know there's a couple spots in Casco Viejo I still have to check out, but what about other places in the Ave Central area? Nothing so seedy that I'll be robbed and shot, but maybe just lesser known places good for a decent BJ. I've got a car but not really interested in heading out into the jungle, so in city areas only please. Also if anyone knows and decent push-buttons closer to the city center, I hate driving out half way to the airport for some private play. Oh ya, not a huge fan of P4P from strip clubs, so no need to bring those up.

I'll post some new reports soon. If anyone needs any tips about the sport or the city in general, feel free to ask.

Joe Shmoe
06-11-12, 04:29
Hey guys,

I'm debating on where my next trip will be, either DR or Panama and just had a couple questions.

What are some chica friendly hotels that are near Veneto, but cheaper?

Is there any advantage of staying at Veneto's aside from being close to the action?

I definitely want to check out the talent there but take them to my nearby hotel. Also want to check out regular night clubs like on calle uruguay.

Thanks!

YoungAnd
06-11-12, 05:17
Hey Guys, here's a report from Gold Fingers:

For those who don't know, this place is just off Tumba Muerto, in the same shopping center / parking lot as a Super 99, left side of the road if driving away from the city. The Super99 is attached to a little mall with generally uninteresting stores, and Fingers is in a little strip of shops across the parking lot. Just a door or two down is the Caribbean Center, which I'm told is a similar style to Gold Fingers, but I'll check it out and report back.

So the set up is simple, you walk in and are greeted by a little Asian matron, who leads you further in to a seating area which is just a small room with basically couches along the walls. She calls in a line up of girls, who walk by in skimpy outfits and little numbers on. I was there at just after opening, and there was a decent line up of maybe 10 girls for me to choose from. Not all stunners of course, but there were some decent ones. I picked out a hottie (Colombian) with great tits and a tight little ass in a white teddy. As the girls were showing off to me some other guy came in and sat down, he seemed local and I noticed they didn't restart the show for him, so I don't know if they just keep repeating the parade or what. Anyway, the chica and I went a little further into the place to the cash window, put down some info and around $90 for the hour. They offered me some drinks (which I'm sure weren't complementary) , but I was only interested in the piece of ass next to me. With everything settled up, the girl takes me upstairs where they have a hallway with a bunch of doors leading to little rooms that consist of a bed and a small sink / shower. The room I had was tiny, barely a foot on either side of the bed, then extra thin walls. Seriously, I could hear at least two other guys in the rooms pounding away at some cheap Colombian pussy.

So the chica offers the basic massage, so I get undressed and she starts "massaging" me, and I mean this in the sarcastic sense rather than the euphamistic sense; she sucked at it (puns!). I'd had enough so I told her desnudate and she let her tits loose. One thing I've noticed in my mongering adventures, no matter how great the tits look in a bra, they're often disappointing when they're not in one. But a little bit of sag didn't phase me much, I was ready to go. She goes to grab a condom for the BJ but I'm not interested in that, and with a bit of effort she agrees to BBBJ for about a $30 tip. Not great I know, but I really can't stand the rubbers. She gets to work and isn't bad, good amount of stroking and sucking, but her heart wasn't in it, so after a bit I told her to bend over and stick that pussy out for me. After I get the rubber on I get to pounding her good and she starts to get into it. We switch positions a couple times; her on top was great with those tits in my face. After a good half hour of fucking I get her and the condom off and put her back on BJ duty. I'm ready to pop now and in no time I get the full release. Unfortunately, she made the terrible mistake of aiming my cock away from her and up at me, so I got jizz all over my stomach / chest. With that plus the unenthusiastic BJ, I decided to cross Gold Fingers off my list for a while, at least until the next crop of pussy comes in. My time was just about up so I rinsed off, got dressed, and left.

Overall, the experience was great, at least in terms of the place itself and not the chica necessarily. I would definitely recommend it. I should note that I speak Spanish pretty well, so it's not too difficult getting the girls to do what I want, but if you're not strong with the language you might have more difficulty. Anyway, here's the final score:

Location: 5/5. Being in the heart of El Dorado is great, easy to get to by car or taxi if you need to. Lots of food options around too for that post-pussy meal.

Girls: 3/5. Overall they looked great, but the performance of my girl today brought the place down from a 4/5.

Rooms: 2/5. A lot of parlors have way better rooms, and the sound of other people fucking so close by threw me off a bit.

Price: 3/5. Pretty standard rate, and for the price it's not terrible.

Hours: 4/5. The place opens at around noon, so it's not bad for daytime play, better than GT opening at 7 but not as good as RE being 24/7.

OVERALL: 3. 5/5. RECOMMENDED

VagigiLover
06-15-12, 02:11
I arrived today in PTY on Copa. Good flight from Orlando. Cleared immigration and happened to bump into this beautiful Panamanian woman working the baggage counter. I am guessing 25 or so. She was dressed in a Copa uniform (skirt) and heels. She has perfect teeth and a pretty face – I was captivated. So I just asked her for her phone number and she provided it.

Arrived at the Sheraton in San Francisco area and checked in. I also asked where someone could purchase a mobile phone and the hotel offered one to me – just pay for the minutes ($0. 50 / minute local). So I called her and she was busy so the conversation was short and ended with her hanging up or something. Realizing she was at work I did not call her back but 20 minutes later she called me. She is off work at 10:00p and coming to meet me at the Sheraton at 11:00p. From her ease of getting together I assume I am going to fuck her brains out tonight. I will lick every inch of her cuca and starfish and then introduce the big boy. Can't wait – it is 8:00p local time now.

So I will kick back and relax and tune in Game 2 of the NBA finals and see what happens. Will head out tomorrow to check out some of the massage places. So far the women seem receptive with my rudimentary Spanish.

Will detail out the evening action tomorrow.

VagigiLover
06-15-12, 02:38
I arrived today in PTY on Copa. Good flight from Orlando. Cleared immigration and happened to bump into this beautiful Panamanian woman working the baggage counter. I am guessing 25 or so. She was dressed in a Copa uniform (skirt) and heels. She has perfect teeth and a pretty face – I was captivated. So I just asked her for her phone number and she provided it.

Arrived at the Sheraton in San Francisco area and checked in. I also asked where someone could purchase a mobile phone and the hotel offered one to me – just pay for the minutes ($0. 50 / minute local). So I called her and she was busy so the conversation was short and ended with her hanging up or something. Realizing she was at work I did not call her back but 20 minutes later she called me. She is off work at 10:00p and coming to meet me at the Sheraton at 11:00p. From her ease of getting together I assume I am going to fuck her brains out tonight. I will lick every inch of her cuca and starfish and then introduce the big boy. Can't wait – it is 8:00p local time now.

So I will kick back and relax and tune in Game 2 of the NBA finals and see what happens. Will head out tomorrow to check out some of the massage places. So far the women seem receptive with my rudimentary Spanish.

Will detail out the evening action tomorrow.

SolidMuscle27
06-20-12, 15:58
I arrived today in PTY on Copa. Good flight from Orlando. Cleared immigration and happened to bump into this beautiful Panamanian woman working the baggage counter. I am guessing 25 or so. She was dressed in a Copa uniform (skirt) and heels. She has perfect teeth and a pretty face – I was captivated. So I just asked her for her phone number and she provided it.

Arrived at the Sheraton in San Francisco area and checked in. I also asked where someone could purchase a mobile phone and the hotel offered one to me – just pay for the minutes ($0. 50 / minute local). So I called her and she was busy so the conversation was short and ended with her hanging up or something. Realizing she was at work I did not call her back but 20 minutes later she called me. She is off work at 10:00p and coming to meet me at the Sheraton at 11:00p. From her ease of getting together I assume I am going to fuck her brains out tonight. I will lick every inch of her cuca and starfish and then introduce the big boy. Can't wait – it is 8:00p local time now.

So I will kick back and relax and tune in Game 2 of the NBA finals and see what happens. Will head out tomorrow to check out some of the massage places. So far the women seem receptive with my rudimentary Spanish.

Will detail out the evening action tomorrow.Any update on this, thanks brotha

MexMike
06-23-12, 21:29
- Walk a few blocks away from ground zero to find your neighborhood pharmacy (not a tourist oriented one) to buy your pills. Rx's are not needed for most stuff.What is meant by 'most stuff'? V, L, & C of some variation I'm sure are available without a RX but what about things like codeien cough syrup, Xanax, Ambien etc? Is there a startegy to get Loratabs or anything like it?

Thanks

Bkgee
06-27-12, 04:55
Hey guys,

I'm debating on where my next trip will be, either DR or Panama and just had a couple questions.

What are some chica friendly hotels that are near Veneto, but cheaper?

Is there any advantage of staying at Veneto's aside from being close to the action?

I definitely want to check out the talent there but take them to my nearby hotel. Also want to check out regular night clubs like on calle uruguay.

Thanks!I've been trying to find out the same thing for a while now. I found some spots, but don't now waht's what. I f you find out something please inbox me I'll do the same for you.

Dickhead
06-27-12, 19:02
Chica friendly, near Veneto: Tower House Suites on Calle 51 which is República de Paraguay. $65 on the weekends and $72 during the week, includes breakfast. Two rooms as the name implies, and either full kitchen or microwave and minifridge. So you have a sofa or couch to hang out on. Two or three blocks from Hábano's. One desk clerk is hot.

Snipps
06-28-12, 18:04
Haven't seen a post in such a long time, has anyone gone the past few weeks to fill us in? My thoughts are it has completly hit the shitter.

Singlesingle1
06-29-12, 17:57
Hi everyone,

I ll be in Panama next August and I am looking for some massage parlour in Panama city and around the country near the beaches.

If anyone can help me with some info (location-name-price-suggestion) I will appreciate it!

Thank you.

Rob

Love Handler
07-03-12, 17:48
I stayed in the Veneto on Tuesday night and until 10. 30pm I thought it was pretty dire. The reason: the security staff are really hassling the girls. Any girls that came in were moved on from the main casino area in front of the bar. Many left early and I thought at first that they were all being asked to leave. As it transpired they were being moved to the back of the casino and you could still find a few. However there wasnt a lot to choose from. Clearly the security personnel are having effect on the number and quality of girls there. With the police outside hassling them also, its no wonder things have got worse. Only just two months ago things were a lot better. I counted maybe 20 girls at 11. 15pm. There are probably many illegals and are likely being deported. I understand they only have a visa if they work the clubs, but not the independents. Also the Colombian girls can legally be working girls, but not the panamanian girls, how about that?

I managed to find a dominican girl with big tits who agreed all for $80 but I certainly played on the fact that business was slow for the girls and it was a buyers market. Got her number for next time if its quiet.

I doubt it was much better in Habanos, it seems as if they are trying to get rid of prostitution in Panama city or move them to the upscale clubs. However not many peple are going to pay those prices.

Ill see what it is like next time, in the meantime I have a few phone numbers to arrange somthing the next time but its always good to find new pussy.

Thinking of a trip to Curacao to check that out.

Gplayer
07-04-12, 06:25
The last few years Panama City does seem to have more than it's fair share of crackdowns / shakedowns but it'd be hard to believe all of the nightlife & chicas are being pushed only to the expensive strip clubs. It's been a year since my last visit, but in my experience the Veneto and Habanos aren't happening until at least 10:30 pm and the discos like Ashe don't get going until much later. Golden Time is always an excellent option but just don't take the taxi directly there or mitigate your loss by telling / agreeing with the driver you won't pay the $4 to $5 cab fare but he can take you directly to GT for his cut. Also Oasis is next door to the Veneto but I'm a fan of Oasis or it's fugly chicas.

If you speak spanish, there's a couple more options: the other Calle Uruguay clubs and bars are another good place to meet non & semi pros and will be close to your home base. If you're younger and can speak spanish the Casco Viejo club scene is a good option and a cool atmosphere. Maybe wrong, but don't remember the Amador Causeway having many good clubs or much of a club scene. If you don't speak spanish than just stick to the main gringo / Veneto circuit. And unless you enjoy dropping mad, stupid cash wouldn't even bother going into places like Le Palace or Elite. Will be back in PTY late August so should be able provide an update then.


I stayed in the Veneto on Tuesday night and until 10. 30pm I thought it was pretty dire. The reason: the security staff are really hassling the girls. Any girls that came in were moved on from the main casino area in front of the bar. Many left early and I thought at first that they were all being asked to leave. As it transpired they were being moved to the back of the casino and you could still find a few. However there wasnt a lot to choose from. Clearly the security personnel are having effect on the number and quality of girls there. With the police outside hassling them also, its no wonder things have got worse. Only just two months ago things were a lot better. I counted maybe 20 girls at 11. 15pm. There are probably many illegals and are likely being deported. I understand they only have a visa if they work the clubs, but not the independents. Also the Colombian girls can legally be working girls, but not the panamanian girls, how about that?

I managed to find a dominican girl with big tits who agreed all for $80 but I certainly played on the fact that business was slow for the girls and it was a buyers market. Got her number for next time if its quiet.

I doubt it was much better in Habanos, it seems as if they are trying to get rid of prostitution in Panama city or move them to the upscale clubs. However not many peple are going to pay those prices.

Ill see what it is like next time, in the meantime I have a few phone numbers to arrange somthing the next time but its always good to find new pussy.

Thinking of a trip to Curacao to check that out.

The Dirty Pirate
07-04-12, 20:04
Can anybody recommend some good places to eat in Panama City? Wouldn't mind getting a good steak, I live in Costa Rica so even halfway decent beef can be somewhat hard to come by. I will be at the Veneto this weekend if anyone is around send a PM, I will be taking a laptop.

Tbuss
07-05-12, 05:09
Can anybody recommend some good places to eat in Panama City? Wouldn't mind getting a good steak, I live in Costa Rica so even halfway decent beef can be somewhat hard to come by. I will be at the Veneto this weekend if anyone is around send a PM, I will be taking a laptop.There are tons of good restaurants in Panama City- Click on "Best Food Ranking" on the right side of this site: http://www.degustapanama.com/ And anyplace on the first 8 pages should be very good.

For steak in particular my favorites are Gaucho on Calle Uruguay, the Filete Encebollado at Martin Fiero in El Cangrejo. Los Anos Locos and Jimmy's Parrillada near Atlapa Convention center in San Francisco.

Travel Fool
07-05-12, 20:22
No way I am eating at a place called The Crazy Anuses ("Los Anos Locos")! Years = años.

I built my hotel reservation around the stories of the Veneto so I am sad to learn that this weekend might suck! Always a day late.


There are tons of good restaurants in Panama City- Click on "Best Food Ranking" on the right side of this site:

http://www.degustapanama.com/

And anyplace on the first 8 pages should be very good.

For steak in particular my favorites are Gaucho on Calle Uruguay, the Filete Encebollado at Martin Fiero in El Cangrejo. Los Anos Locos and Jimmy's Parrillada near Atlapa Convention center in San Francisco.

Snipps
07-06-12, 21:17
No way I am eating at a place called The Crazy Anuses ("Los Anos Locos")! Years = años.

I built my hotel reservation around the stories of the Veneto so I am sad to learn that this weekend might suck! Always a day late.Each week is different there. One week they are strict the next they week is totally different. Please share your stories when you get back. ENJOY

The Dirty Pirate
07-07-12, 00:38
Just checked into the Veneto, will be sure to report back on what I get into this weekend.

Tp Horn
07-07-12, 04:55
It's años locos, as in crazy years not crazy anuses. It's a cool place.

And from what I can tell, dudes bring their mistresses there.


No way I am eating at a place called The Crazy Anuses ("Los Anos Locos")! Years = años.

The Dirty Pirate
07-07-12, 15:52
Plenty of chicas around Veneto last night, stopped into Golden Time, picked #10, was fun but rushed and I have definitely had a lot better time there. They also tried to give me the higher price until I bitched and assured them I was not in a taxi.

Stopped in by Golden Fingers also, great lineup improvement from my last visit. Might have to stop by there tonight and see what I can get into as I didn't take one last night.

Picked up a 22 year old from Cali when I got back to the casino after the massage parlor run, finally found something appealing to me without silicone. Way too much silicone going on down here for my tastes. She asked 150, I told her 80 with a propina maybe, she totally earned her 100, what a fun chica. I'll post about tonight when I get back home tomorrow, going to be doing another trip the El Dorado to check out the massage parlors and maybe see what Habanos has to offer as I went by in a taxi last night and it also looked packed.

Mellowg
07-07-12, 16:27
For those still unsure of the location: Golden Time is a few doors down from the "Popeyes" fast food chain. The sign for this is so big on the main drag you cannot miss it.

Yesterday around 10:00 made my pilgrimage.

Six ladies presented themselves, all very enjoyable spinners. Two were not in the mood as they just came through the door turned and left, did not even take the time to allow us to see their numbers which were reversed so could not see them anyway. For one of them I really wish I could have but she was gone in a sec.

Cost us$113, which include 3 drinks after the fact.

Enjoy.

Mellow

Ibn Buttita
07-07-12, 23:26
Snipps' post from last week ('what has happened to Panama City. Haven't seen a post in such a long time') guilted me into finally getting it together and writing my report of my December 2011 trip. If things have not changed too much since then, I would argue that Panama City is still a great place to monger.

My first outing was out to Oasis, near the Veneto on the first full afternoon of the trip, excusing myself from the old lady under the pretext of making some travel arrangements. I chose a lousy day to go out, since rainy season was definitely not yet over. I was staying at a hotel in the Bella Vista neighborhood, not all that far away from the Veneto area, but with steady rain coming down I wanted to catch a taxi. Cabs are not expensive in Panama City, but it can be hard to find one right away, especially one going your direction on a rainy day, and road construction detours discouraged a couple of taxis from going my way. At some point I just gave up and began walking. Which was little damp but fine until the deluge came. We are talking Noah and the Ark type rain. I waded through mini-rivers gushing down the sloped streets, and my shoes and other clothing were soon so thoroughly soaked that gave up even trying to avoid pools of water or cars splashing me.

Dripping wet, I was relieved that I apparently had made the Oasis special lunchtime promotion I had read about on the forum, a flat $50 for an hour. It turned out that this had changed, to $24 for the room, the massage price to be negotiated with the girl. After I paid the guy behind the cashier's window I chose one of the three girls in lingerie who stood up for me in the sitting area, who had a hot body. She gave me a little time to get out of my soggy clothing, and when she returned we negotiated $60 for the hour, more than I had expected given what I had anticipated for the lunchtime special. The session was acceptable but certainly not GFE, with everything covered and her moves a bit mechanical. Still, I hadn't had a session with a nice Paisa for a long time, so it took the edge off there.

I wasn't done exploring for the day. Based on my reading of the forum, another set of massage parlors was within walking distance. But between this being my first trip to Panama City and this part of town, the road and sidewalk construction, and minimal street signage, it took me a while to get where I was going. I went way too far on Calle Argentina, but eventually doubled back and found the off-street shopping plaza that contained River Club and Oriental Relax massage parlors. With both places located across a parking lot I decided to scope out the talent in each. I took a quick look into Oriental, just past an internet café, and the three ladies in lingerie made me consider a return. It only took a glance at the hags waiting at River Club to send me immediately back to Oriental Relax.

A new girl was now sitting in the tiny waiting room: Mia, a black Panamanian. I asked for her and was shown the room. Oriental Relax was very rudimentary, much more so than Oasis. The room had a sliding door, thin panel walls, and while it did have a small couch the only other furniture was a massage table. This is where Mia started me with a massage, but I was eager to get my hands on her thick, curvy Afro-Panamanian body. After we negotiated for $40 (above the $20 or so entry). I undressed her and sat her on the table as I licked her juicy pussy, then laid her back and mounted her. When she climbed on me in cowgirl she showed off her strong, solid body as she rode me with vigor. I clutched her round ass, and turned her around in reverse so I could get a better grip on that awesome booty. Doggystyle was even better, and I became drenched in sweat as I pushed her flat onto her belly and pumped my cum inside her. I tipped her an extra $20 for her efforts, in retrospect a bit much, but it was a memorable session.

A few days later I again escaped to Oasis during the day. Happily, a slender Colombian brunette who had been in the waiting room the previous time was there again. The last time the other girl's sultry look had lured me despite Sophia's sweet smile, but this time I did not make the mistake of passing this girl up. I knew I had chosen well when she turned out to be just as friendly in the room, and she happily accepted $40. Chatting with her was fun, but I couldn't keep my hands off this pale cutie for long. I had to pull the bed into position, but we soon took full advantage of the room's wall and ceiling mirrors. I sat on the edge of the bed as Sophia sat on my dick and I looked over her shoulder at the view as she bounced up and down. I laid back and pulled her back against me, fucking until the sight of her delicious slim body writhing on top of made it impossible for me to hold back my load any longer.

I made one nighttime trip to a massage parlor, Golden Times. Reaching it by taxi was easy, and only took around 20 minutes from my hotel. I simply asked for the Casino Fantastic, and from there I simply crossed the main commercial street to the shopping center with the Popeye's. At the cashier's window inside, I offered the $90 I had read about on the forum, but the lady there would have none of it. I told her that is what I had paid in the past (though this was my first time). She must have seen through that and asked when I had last visited, and said that next time I could have that price, but for now it would be $107.

An older gentleman led me past some of the ladies in the hallway to the sitting room (cubicle is more like it) , where I was served a beer and watched tv for a little while until a lineup was offered. Lots of Colombianas with big (fake) boobs and big (fake?) round butts. A little artificial to my liking, but still arousing. I selected a late-20s / 30 year old named Natalia, whose breasts really turned me on. As we chatted I learned that I was possibly her last customer in Panama, as she was returning to Colombia the next day as her visa was expiring. She began with a decent massage, and when I flipped she provided a covered blow job and then rode me. It was all too brief and mechanical. I liked Natalia's pleasant personality, but the session, combined with my first Oasis experience, had me down on Colombianas in Panama. Fortunately, as I would later (surprisingly) learn from my La Bocatorena and La Mayor experiences, there were places and Colombianas in Panama City offering an alternative to high prices and so-so service.

Ibn Buttita
07-07-12, 23:31
la bocatorena and la mayor ranked as highlights of my panama city mongering. i'the call them the best combination of quality, value and local flavor i experienced. my favorite thing about them? they are extremely well placed for anyone staying in the old city of casco viejo, within say a ten minute walk, and so telling your significant other that you are leaving the hotel for a walkabout or even a search for a grocery store makes a great pretext to pop (literally) in one of these clubs. you earn some monger street cred going into this portside barrio behind the fish market, but in reality the clubs are on a main street, and if you are walking from the old town above just cross through the new well-lit park you should be fine.

i made a couple of daytime visits to bocatorena. the place had character (and characters) in abundance, plus good music and cheap beer in a dive-why setting. when i visited, it was full of panamanian men, mostly on the young side, looking at the women standing at the margins of the dim main rooms. if you're a white foreigner like me, this kind of crowd has an edge to it, just by virtue of one standing out a bit plus the unpredictability of so much testosterone in one room; that said, i felt pretty comfortable there.

when i entered i had second thoughts, not due to the male clientele but the first two house-sized ladies i saw. fortunately, i didn't let that deter me, and after ordering a beer i scoped out the other ladies, including one whose skin tight bare shoulder dress showed off her curvy body. i sidled up to lorena, from cali, and after we chatted a bit looked into getting a room; her body attracted me more than her face, which wasn't unattractive, but i was ready for a session. she led me to the upstairs payment booth and warren of bedrooms; that staircase was off the further barroom, and all my later sessions were in the ground floor area off the main entrance barroom.

i paid the counter guy $ 15 for 20 minutes (and they took my beer bottle, which isn't permitted in the bedroom). when we got into the room lorena peeled off her white dress and squatted on the toilet, which was at the foot of the bed, and then splashed water from the sink onto her privates to clean up. (despite the room set up, they weren't really dirty – shabby and worn, but not what i'the call dirty). after a quick covered bj we switched from missionary to doggy, and her nice round calena ass prompted me to blow my load. and we got it in under the time limit, a rapid but satisfying time, despite the lack of kissing which seems par for the course here.

i took some time to recover with a beer, but when i spotted a petite cutie with an impressive rack standing by the back wall, i made a beeline for her. she was 20 and from pereira, which made me instantly promise myself to visit that city next time i am in colombia. even before she stripped naked i could tell this teen cutie had invested in a set of fake boobs, which i normally don't like so much. but when i squeezed them as she rode me in cowgirl i had the hardest time deciding if i preferred her this way (and living out my fantasy of getting fucked by a little porn vixen) what she would be like as a more innocent girl next door sans inflated breasts. although i had paid for a 20 minute session, within about seven minutes of getting into the room we got a warning knock on the door. with the high volume at bocatorena this seems common, as it happened in my next session there also. i was just getting into it with her, so i had her run out another $15 to extend the session. as a result of having to pay for double time (which i also with my next girl) , the sessions at bocatorena aren't as good a value as say the $30 half hour blocks at la mayor next door, where there was no rush to get you out of the rooms.

my next visit to bocatorena featured my favorite girl from that club, light-skinned. 19 year old juliana. this blonde in daisy duke shorts and bikini top looked like the prototypical california girl, but she was a paisa. she was attracting some attention shaking her hips to the music when i approached her, and she turned out to be even more of a sweetheart than i expected. this included kissing (albeit lightly) in the room. we tried out a variety of positions (in general the girls at bocatorena and la mayor were more open to multiple positions that you might expect in these settings) , and i think we both really appreciated the ones – spooning, pumping her from behind in doggy – that allowed me to focus attention on her round ass.

la mayor represented a cut or two (or more, depending how big your cuts are) above its next door neighbor la bocatorena. even the old building it occupied looked like it had been gentrified. i paid the cover charge at the counter, checked my umbrella, got frisked going in, and sat down to enjoy the stripper on stage. i actually think i observed more of the slapstick comedy act put on by the resident clown, something i never expected to see in a strip club.

as i sipped my beer i noticed two attractive brunettes sitting at a table. i approached the one i found more appealing, a medellin girl, and we took the stairs up to the bedroom section, and i paid my $30. i found the room acceptable, with air conditioning, attached bathroom and television. this girl looked great naked, with reasonable fake boobs and a squeezable round ass. i appreciated her energetic performance and the effort she put into making sure i came (i was a bit fatigued, having been enjoying the girls next door). i left her a $10 tip in appreciation, as i did with other girls at la mayor and la bocatorena.

on my next visit i happened to be at the bar when a delicious little brunette came up to get a drink. i saw her strip earlier and assumed she was accompanying a guy by now, but i was in luck, tina was available. i'm drooling over the keyboard thinking about her now, with her adorable face, petite, compact body with a bubble butt, tiny waist, and round, fake tits. she could be the best looking colombian girl i was ever with. watching her squeeze out of her tight jean shorts and button-straining blouse made my eyes pop. and she went all out, like the previous colombiana, to make sure that i popped – not so easy, coming from a visit to la bocatorena. tina made me cum as she ground into my cock in reverse cowgirl. it's a vision i'll take to my grave, her round ass cheeks gyrating back and forth, up and down, as i grasped them forcefully, and finally exploding into the condom. the definitive reverse cowgirl visual in my memory bank.

on my last night in panama city i returned to la mayor. i saw the two lovely colombianas i had been with and greeted them with a smile at the bar, as they fetched drinks for the men they were entertaining. i wanted to be entertained in private by a gorgeous black girl whom i had seen stripping, but she was snapped up by another guest. another attractive, fairly tall black girl came into sight, and i invited her to sit with me, and we ordered a bucket of beers. elisabeta was from the dominican republic, and she appreciated my comment praising presidente as superior to the beers in panama. after we downed those we went upstairs, and began to kiss passionately (as distinguished from most of the non-kissing colombianas). we shed our clothing and began going at it very passionately, our hips bucking furiously in unison as we fucked in missionary. it wasn't a session that featured a long list of positions, but it was one born out of real sexual compatibility between us.

the massage parlors had been ok, but la bocatorena and la mayor really scored, and revived my faith in colombianas and the lengths some of them will go to please a man. when you add in that little bit of dominican flavor to remind me of pleasant past experiences, you've got the makings of a trip highlight. it's just too bad i didn't find another fine panamanian there to thrown into the mix.

Snipps
07-08-12, 16:25
la bocatorena and la mayor ranked as highlights of my panama city mongering. i'the call them the best combination of quality, value and local flavor i experienced. my favorite thing about them? they are extremely well placed for anyone staying in the old city of casco viejo, within say a ten minute walk, and so telling your significant other that you are leaving the hotel for a walkabout or even a search for a grocery store makes a great pretext to pop (literally) in one of these clubs. you earn some monger street cred going into this portside barrio behind the fish market, but in reality the clubs are on a main street, and if you are walking from the old town above just cross through the new well-lit park you should be fine.

i made a couple of daytime visits to bocatorena. the place had character (and characters) in abundance, plus good music and cheap beer in a dive-why setting. when i visited, it was full of panamanian men, mostly on the young side, looking at the women standing at the margins of the dim main rooms. if you're a white foreigner like me, this kind of crowd has an edge to it, just by virtue of one standing out a bit plus the unpredictability of so much testosterone in one room; that said, i felt pretty comfortable there.

when i entered i had second thoughts, not due to the male clientele but the first two house-sized ladies i saw. fortunately, i didn't let that deter me, and after ordering a beer i scoped out the other ladies, including one whose skin tight bare shoulder dress showed off her curvy body. i sidled up to lorena, from cali, and after we chatted a bit looked into getting a room; her body attracted me more than her face, which wasn't unattractive, but i was ready for a session. she led me to the upstairs payment booth and warren of bedrooms; that staircase was off the further barroom, and all my later sessions were in the ground floor area off the main entrance barroom.

i paid the counter guy $ 15 for 20 minutes (and they took my beer bottle, which isn't permitted in the bedroom). when we got into the room lorena peeled off her white dress and squatted on the toilet, which was at the foot of the bed, and then splashed water from the sink onto her privates to clean up. (despite the room set up, they weren't really dirty – shabby and worn, but not what i'the call dirty). after a quick covered bj we switched from missionary to doggy, and her nice round calena ass prompted me to blow my load. and we got it in under the time limit, a rapid but satisfying time, despite the lack of kissing which seems par for the course here.

i took some time to recover with a beer, but when i spotted a petite cutie with an impressive rack standing by the back wall, i made a beeline for her. she was 20 and from pereira, which made me instantly promise myself to visit that city next time i am in colombia. even before she stripped naked i could tell this teen cutie had invested in a set of fake boobs, which i normally don't like so much. but when i squeezed them as she rode me in cowgirl i had the hardest time deciding if i preferred her this way (and living out my fantasy of getting fucked by a little porn vixen) what she would be like as a more innocent girl next door sans inflated breasts. although i had paid for a 20 minute session, within about seven minutes of getting into the room we got a warning knock on the door. with the high volume at bocatorena this seems common, as it happened in my next session there also. i was just getting into it with her, so i had her run out another $15 to extend the session. as a result of having to pay for double time (which i also with my next girl) , the sessions at bocatorena aren't as good a value as say the $30 half hour blocks at la mayor next door, where there was no rush to get you out of the rooms.

my next visit to bocatorena featured my favorite girl from that club, light-skinned. 19 year old juliana. this blonde in daisy duke shorts and bikini top looked like the prototypical california girl, but she was a paisa. she was attracting some attention shaking her hips to the music when i approached her, and she turned out to be even more of a sweetheart than i expected. this included kissing (albeit lightly) in the room. we tried out a variety of positions (in general the girls at bocatorena and la mayor were more open to multiple positions that you might expect in these settings) , and i think we both really appreciated the ones – spooning, pumping her from behind in doggy – that allowed me to focus attention on her round ass.

la mayor represented a cut or two (or more, depending how big your cuts are) above its next door neighbor la bocatorena. even the old building it occupied looked like it had been gentrified. i paid the cover charge at the counter, checked my umbrella, got frisked going in, and sat down to enjoy the stripper on stage. i actually think i observed more of the slapstick comedy act put on by the resident clown, something i never expected to see in a strip club.

as i sipped my beer i noticed two attractive brunettes sitting at a table. i approached the one i found more appealing, a medellin girl, and we took the stairs up to the bedroom section, and i paid my $30. i found the room acceptable, with air conditioning, attached bathroom and television. this girl looked great naked, with reasonable fake boobs and a squeezable round ass. i appreciated her energetic performance and the effort she put into making sure i came (i was a bit fatigued, having been enjoying the girls next door). i left her a $10 tip in appreciation, as i did with other girls at la mayor and la bocatorena.

on my next visit i happened to be at the bar when a delicious little brunette came up to get a drink. i saw her strip earlier and assumed she was accompanying a guy by now, but i was in luck, tina was available. i'm drooling over the keyboard thinking about her now, with her adorable face, petite, compact body with a bubble butt, tiny waist, and round, fake tits. she could be the best looking colombian girl i was ever with. watching her squeeze out of her tight jean shorts and button-straining blouse made my eyes pop. and she went all out, like the previous colombiana, to make sure that i popped – not so easy, coming from a visit to la bocatorena. tina made me cum as she ground into my cock in reverse cowgirl. it's a vision i'll take to my grave, her round ass cheeks gyrating back and forth, up and down, as i grasped them forcefully, and finally exploding into the condom. the definitive reverse cowgirl visual in my memory bank.

on my last night in panama city i returned to la mayor. i saw the two lovely colombianas i had been with and greeted them with a smile at the bar, as they fetched drinks for the men they were entertaining. i wanted to be entertained in private by a gorgeous black girl whom i had seen stripping, but she was snapped up by another guest. another attractive, fairly tall black girl came into sight, and i invited her to sit with me, and we ordered a bucket of beers. elisabeta was from the dominican republic, and she appreciated my comment praising presidente as superior to the beers in panama. after we downed those we went upstairs, and began to kiss passionately (as distinguished from most of the non-kissing colombianas). we shed our clothing and began going at it very passionately, our hips bucking furiously in unison as we fucked in missionary. it wasn't a session that featured a long list of positions, but it was one born out of real sexual compatibility between us.

the massage parlors had been ok, but la bocatorena and la mayor really scored, and revived my faith in colombianas and the lengths some of them will go to please a man. when you add in that little bit of dominican flavor to remind me of pleasant past experiences, you've got the makings of a trip highlight. it's just too bad i didn't find another fine panamanian there to thrown into the mix.nice post, thanks for taking the time to write one. yes, in my opinion a lot has changed since you visited. back in 2011 it was ok. this year every week seems to be different. i'm talking about panama city off course, ie veneto, habanos, etc. i have never gone to la bocatorena or la mayor, maybe thats what i might do on my next visit if i decide to go down again. just not into having fun with the ladies in those type of room settings. rather pick up someone from the veneto and go straight to your room.

The Dirty Pirate
07-08-12, 20:35
Stopped by Golden Time last night, right at opening, by 7:30 they a fair number of chicas, sadly only 3 of them were natural. Went over to Gold Fingers instead, took a chica I wish I had the night before who I thought would be a good time, man was I ever wrong. I think that was one of the worst times I have ever had at a massage parlor, lighting 95 bucks on fire in front of a bum would have been more entertaining. No touching, constantly checking the condom, toothed me numerous times during the, thank jesus, CBJ. I think I would have had some broken skin if it wasn't for the rubber being on. She asked me if I liked it when we were done, I told her no, she looked a little let down and then tried to make a bunch of small talk that was just crap about how Panama sucks and Colombia is the best, and asked me for a propina still to which I also told her no. Went back to the Veneto and did some more losing on their table games when I noticed the chica from Friday night was there again and knew that would be a sure thing. 80 bucks, no propina requests, and great service. What a trooper. Pretty lame report, I know, but I had to wake up at 5 am to go to the airport. When I was checking out of the Veneto I seen a guy leaving with 3 chicas, good times, haha. I'm sure I will be back in Panama City at some point just due to my living situation however I would never make a point to go there myself. Much better mongering in other locations and way too much silicone for my liking.

Ibn Buttita
07-08-12, 22:56
Nice post, thanks for taking the time to write one. Yes, in my opinion a lot has changed since you visited. Back in 2011 it was ok. This year every week seems to be different. I'm talking about Panama city off course, ie veneto, habanos, etc. I have never gone to La Bocatorena or La Mayor, maybe thats what I might do on my next visit if I decide to go down again. Just not into having fun with the ladies in those type of room settings. Rather pick up someone from the Veneto and go straight to your room.Thanks Snipps. I like TLN when I am traveling solo, maybe I'll have a chance to try that at the Veneto some time. Definitely try at least La Mayor when you do get down there again.

Seismo
07-09-12, 00:13
For those of you that find the rooms to be completely disgusting: GOOD NEWS!

Carry out / take away is on the menu. I have had several girls in there try to get me to take them for the rest of the afternoon.

I don't recall how much the buyout was, but it seemed very reasonable. Ask any of the girls or the management.

Nowrath
07-12-12, 23:40
Gents.

I have narrowed my choices to 3 buildings for a month rental, all executive condo's,

I have read reviews on 2 of them Bayfront Towers, and Pacific Sky, but can't find any reviews on Element Boutique Condo's.

From the map, they all look within blocks of each other, and love the idea of a jacuzzi on the balcony at Element, but has anyone know of or actually rented in this building condo is on th 19th floor.

Any help would be appreciated

Nowrath

The Dirty Pirate
07-13-12, 00:36
What does a short term rental like that go for? Feel free to PM if you want.

Thanks

Viper10
07-13-12, 03:39
It is 9:38pm and I see 35 girls in my vision. I am curious to see how the night develops.

Viper10

Nowrath
07-13-12, 23:05
What does a short term rental like that go for? Feel free to PM if you want.

ThanksFor the month, with all utilities paid and wifi, and weekly cleaning,

Element $2600.

Pacific Sky $2300.

Bayfront $2300

Superboy1
07-14-12, 18:33
Hi,

Can someone tell me what it is like to tranfer flights at Panama`s Tocumen International airport?

I will be flying in from Amsterdam using KLM then I have a 3hr transfer for me next flight with AeroRepublic to Medellin, is Tocumen a stright forward airport to transfer in?

I am looking at collecting my luggage at Tocument to be sure it has made it there then check it in with AeroRepublic rather than hope it gets transferred onto my flight to Medellin.

Would appreciate any help.

The Dirty Pirate
07-16-12, 02:10
Hi,

Can someone tell me what it is like to tranfer flights at Panama`s Tocumen International airport?

I will be flying in from Amsterdam using KLM then I have a 3hr transfer for me next flight with AeroRepublic to Medellin, is Tocumen a stright forward airport to transfer in?

I am looking at collecting my luggage at Tocument to be sure it has made it there then check it in with AeroRepublic rather than hope it gets transferred onto my flight to Medellin.

Would appreciate any help.It is an easy going place, you should have no problems.

Tp Horn
07-16-12, 18:58
I am looking at collecting my luggage at Tocumen to be sure it has made it there then check it in with AeroRepublic rather than hope it gets transferred onto my flight to Medellin.The baggage claim is beyond immigration, so you'll be dealing with that. KLM should give you more direction when you check the bags, but I don't think you'll have any problem with the transfer in Panama. AeroRepublica is Copa, and they rule the roost at PTY, usually efficiently.

The airport is relatively comfortable, now that they opened the food court upstairs and a couple of bars. During the day, there usually are a slew of hotties modeling sports cars and hawking perfume and booze in the terminal.

Bkgee
07-17-12, 21:55
Has anyone stayed at this hotel before, trying to find out if it is GF friendly?

Viper10
07-17-12, 22:55
I spent a few weeks in Brazil and when heading back to the US decided to spend one day in Panama. Last Thursday night I was there and checked into the Veneto. As I posted that day, at 9:38pm there were 38 girls working. I would say during the course of the night at a very low estimate 60, at least 70 and probably more. I didn't mind the quality as I like the atmosphere more than Costa. I get to eat sushi downstairs, have drinks at the bar or table, play some blackjack, and get couple Colombians all without leaving the hotel. Granted this will never be a top mongering destination, but it is worth something. With Brazil on the decline, and with a lot of the termas closed when I was there, I will be headed to BA for my next South American trip. Let me be clear, Rio on the decline, meaning harder to find, termas closed because of Rio+20 and / or Olympics, and sky rocketing prices. Thanks.

Viper10

Snipps
07-17-12, 23:37
I spent a few weeks in Brazil and when heading back to the US decided to spend one day in Panama. Last Thursday night I was there and checked into the Veneto. As I posted that day, at 9:38pm there were 38 girls working. I would say during the course of the night at a very low estimate 60, at least 70 and probably more. I didn't mind the quality as I like the atmosphere more than Costa. I get to eat sushi downstairs, have drinks at the bar or table, play some blackjack, and get couple Colombians all without leaving the hotel. Granted this will never be a top mongering destination, but it is worth something. With Brazil on the decline, and with a lot of the termas closed when I was there, I will be headed to BA for my next South American trip. Let me be clear, Rio on the decline, meaning harder to find, termas closed because of Rio+20 and / or Olympics, and sky rocketing prices. Thanks.

Viper10That is VERY hard to believe, when I spoke to a cab driver the other day and he said its been quite. Haven't seen that many women since 2008

Love Handler
07-18-12, 13:53
That is VERY hard to believe, when I spoke to a cab driver the other day and he said its been quite. Haven't seen that many women since 2008I hope it is the case that it hasnt died completely, I was there 3 weeks ago and it was poor, saying that it was a Tuesday night so may have been quieter. Maybe the cops ease up on the Thursday. I hope so, I'm going there next week, looking to extend my stay a bit so I can enjoy some pussy.

The Dirty Pirate
07-19-12, 22:09
I hope it is the case that it hasnt died completely, I was there 3 weeks ago and it was poor, saying that it was a Tuesday night so may have been quieter. Maybe the cops ease up on the Thursday. I hope so, I'm going there next week, looking to extend my stay a bit so I can enjoy some pussy.I was in Panama in May 2011 and it was dead as hell in Veneto and Habanos but the massage parlors were on fire, fast forward to two weeks ago and it was the complete opposite. Veneto was packed full of chicas and the massage parlors were horrible. I am not sure what to make of the place still but all in all it was a pretty good time.

Paesano63
07-20-12, 02:21
I was in the Veneto last week and there were many ie 50+ girls available. Also I saw girls in Manolos and the side street between via espana and via Argentina. The girls are smart and move around to avoid attention. For example if there is a soccer game or fight that draw a lot of people (non working girls and locals) to the bar area then the worker girls tend to move away from the bar and to the slot machines all around the casino.

I have an apartment in the Cangrejo and I know many worker girls rent rooms in the area, in my building on the 4th floor there are 9 colombianas sharing a 3 bedroom apt. Another colombiana that works at Goldentimes is married and goes to "work" she bought a new car in 6 months. I've seen her, cute girl about 5'3" bolt ons on top and injections on the butt.

I prefer the locals. Many students and divorced women with kids, lots of options.

Tiny 12
07-21-12, 22:44
Superboy, I agree with Tp Horn and the Pirate. It's an efficient airport. If I were in your shoes I'd try to check the luggage all the way to your destination. Sometimes there are long lines at immigration, up to maybe 30 minutes. If your KLM flight is late you may miss your connection.

Bbond
07-30-12, 06:53
No way I am eating at a place called The Crazy Anuses ("Los Anos Locos")! Years = años.The real name of the place is "Los Años Locos". Perhaps the poster did not know how to type "ñ", (alt+164), or (alt+0241).

Mfins
07-31-12, 06:45
That is VERY hard to believe, when I spoke to a cab driver the other day and he said its been quite. Haven't seen that many women since 200860 women is quite possible but the problem now is the quality of the chicas and the service you get. Out of 60 there are probably less than five 8+'s and of those 5 probably 1 gives good service. Also, depending on immigration raids or even rumors of raids determines the qty of chicas that show up on any particular night. All this and the carrot law. I will pass.

Tbuss
08-01-12, 04:34
The real name of the place is "Los Años Locos". Perhaps the poster did not know how to type "ñ", (alt+164), or (alt+0241).I knew how to type the "ñ", just didn't expect to be held so accountable for grammar on a gringo / monger posting board.

AC Pattaya
08-03-12, 16:27
I was in Panama in May 2011 and it was dead as hell in Veneto and Habanos but the massage parlors were on fire, fast forward to two weeks ago and it was the complete opposite. Veneto was packed full of chicas and the massage parlors were horrible. I am not sure what to make of the place still but all in all it was a pretty good time.I agree, I was there 3 weeks ago and was impressed by the selection of chicas at Habanos & the Veneto. The quality of girls at the MP's were horrible. Not to mention the crazy prices they're charging. I went to Oasis they had 1 average girl & 3 ugly girls to choose from at the same price you could pick a beauty from the Veneto or Habanos. The guy quoted me $42 for the room + the girl's fee. I also checked out Hawaii Center, they only had 2 ugly girls working.

Bkgee
08-03-12, 20:25
Has anyone stayed at Hotel Milan?

And if so, what are your views of the place?

Viva Chicas
08-05-12, 07:50
Hello,

I have stayed at the Hotel Milan many times in the past. Rate if you pay in cash is about $57 a night."Officially", they do not allow you to bring a guest. But, in reality you can. You be low key and subtle about it when you enter the lobby. Go straight to the elevator and go to your room. The rooms are nice and big with TV. Very clean. Only down is they are a little spartan. Just a few minute walk to the Veneto or a 5-10 minute trip to Habanos by Taxi for $3. 00. Never ask the cab driver how much, just give him $3. 00 after you get out and walk away. I like the place. Well located at a fair price.

Tbuss
08-06-12, 03:58
Hello,

I have stayed at the Hotel Milan many times in the past. Rate if you pay in cash is about $57 a night."Officially", they do not allow you to bring a guest. But, in reality you can. You be low key and subtle about it when you enter the lobby. Go straight to the elevator and go to your room. The rooms are nice and big with TV. Very clean. Only down is they are a little spartan. Just a few minute walk to the Veneto or a 5-10 minute trip to Habanos by Taxi for $3. 00. Never ask the cab driver how much, just give him $3. 00 after you get out and walk away. I like the place. Well located at a fair price.Great intel on Hotel Milan, thank you. FYI, taxi ride should be about $1. 50 to Habanos, after 10pm and on Sundays, $2. 00 max- if you are driving alone.

Bkgee
08-06-12, 21:00
Thanks for that Hotel Milan info! Planning a trip for next April, then fly to Costa Rica from Panama.

CBreeze11
08-10-12, 04:26
I go to Panama monthly on biz and have been staying at the Veneto. There is a small daytime shift but things get going after 8. Around 10 it gets real busy, at least 50 girls maybe more. Selection from 2's to 10's. The 10's want $200 to $250 but will do 2 hours. One of them was a beautiful a girl as I have ever seen. Had a 9 one night for $150 service was so so. Probably could have gotten her for cien but saving a couple of bucks is not that important to me. Another night had an 8 from Colombia and everything was one the table! GFE with a little PSE asian which lasted as long as I desired. 2 shots. She asked for $100 and I tipped her for the fine service. Had her again last night and she was so happy to get a repeat she just couldn't do enough for me. Todo la noche $300.

Love Handler
08-14-12, 22:38
Anybody got any recent news about Boca Toreña, Casco viejo, Fish market, Calle K or El Capitan?

Looking to maybe check out that area next week.

Jimenez
08-17-12, 11:44
Hey cbreeze11 would you have the contact info for the pse asian?


I go to Panama monthly on biz and have been staying at the Veneto. There is a small daytime shift but things get going after 8. Around 10 it gets real busy, at least 50 girls maybe more. Selection from 2's to 10's. The 10's want $200 to $250 but will do 2 hours. One of them was a beautiful a girl as I have ever seen. Had a 9 one night for $150 service was so so. Probably could have gotten her for cien but saving a couple of bucks is not that important to me. Another night had an 8 from Colombia and everything was one the table! GFE with a little PSE asian which lasted as long as I desired. 2 shots. She asked for $100 and I tipped her for the fine service. Had her again last night and she was so happy to get a repeat she just couldn't do enough for me. Todo la noche $300.

Cactus J
08-20-12, 03:46
Cactus J

I have stayed at the Hotel Milan many times in the past. Rate if you pay in cash is about $57 a night."Officially", they do not allow you to bring a guest. But, in reality you can. You be low key and subtle about it when you enter the lobby. Go straight to the elevator and go to your room. The rooms are nice and big with TV. Very clean. Only down is they are a little spartan. Just a few minute walk to the Veneto or a 5-10 minute trip to Habanos by Taxi for $3. 00. Never ask the cab driver how much, just give him $3. 00 after you get out and walk away. I like the place. Well located at a fair price.Hello, The Hotel Milan says $ 227 per night for 2 nights 3rd free on their webpage. How do you get the $ 57 nite rate?

Thanks for your help!

Snipps
08-20-12, 22:46
Quick summary from a friend of mine that was down there this past weekend.

Wed night- good night. 30 + girls-10 girls he recognized from his prior trip down there.

Thurs night. Ok 20 + Girls 10 same from night before.

Friday. Horrible, maybe about 15 girls. 10-12 from night before as well. Security was all over them.

Saturday- Worse night. About 15 girls all from the previous nights.

All women at the veneto he said ranged from 1-6, no 7, 8 or 9s. Maybe one he saw was a 9 and she didn't want to go below 200.

To sum up, there is no talent down there, and its always the same women. Worse stay ever he said. He was there for FOUR nights and ended up with only 2 women. Felt bad for him. He said he went over to habanos a few nights, but they had maybe 10-15 girls. Nothing to ride home about. The place officially has gone down the shitter.

Love Handler I know you are there today. Send us some info. I am sure its the same. Look for a 19th year old there, her name is Beatriz. He said she was a winner!

Love Handler
08-23-12, 17:03
I was at the Veneto on Friday and it was okay, took a quick look at Casco Viejo, the old town. La Mayor and La Boca Torena are busy places, lots of panamanian men, poor quality girls don't go. Call K was terrible didn't even get out of the taxi, looked way dodgy and not lively like Bogota.

I managed to score a black girl Brenda from Cali at the Veneto who did everything for $80 plus a tip. I could tell she wasnt having much business and the lighter skinned colombian girls get more attention which leaves the chocolate for me. Once you go black.

I got DFK, BBBJ and the ride of my life. She was a great fuck, great pussy and body. Didn't get her number as she is only here for 1 month more.

The Veneto was the only good place on a Monday night, Miami is dead as are all the other clubs because the girls rest and get STD checkups on Tuesday.

Ddint make it out anywhere last night we dined with 2 panamian girls and I got some non pro action. She was so wet and horny, hadn't been fucked in ages, fucked her for a lifetime and then she let me cum in her mouth. Sweet ending to the trip.

Jimmy Di
08-24-12, 21:43
My girlfriend and I are coming to Panama City for six nights in October. If I'm lucky and she's in the mood, we'll look for chica for a threesome. However, I always have to approach the chica thing carefully and I don't want her to feel too uncomfortable if the chica scene at the Veneto is too obvious. Otherwise I end up being unlucky. Would the Veneto be the best place to stay?

Cayrick
09-02-12, 21:50
My girlfriend and I are coming to Panama City for six nights in October. If I'm lucky and she's in the mood, we'll look for chica for a threesome. However, I always have to approach the chica thing carefully and I don't want her to feel too uncomfortable if the chica scene at the Veneto is too obvious. Otherwise I end up being unlucky. Would the Veneto be the best place to stay?My advice! If your girlfriend is a keeper this is a bad plan. If she is transitional go ahead and have fun. Stuff like this can come back to haunt you.

You69Me
09-09-12, 00:58
Why are you misers bargaining on a poor cab drivers taxi fares.

When at the same time you are giving filthy working girls hundred of dollars.

And paying hotels high dollars to use their fuckedup beds.

Just to dump your garbage.


Great intel on Hotel Milan, thank you. FYI, taxi ride should be about $1. 50 to Habanos, after 10pm and on Sundays, $2. 00 max- if you are driving alone.

Tbuss
09-10-12, 00:15
Why are you misers bargaining on a poor cab drivers taxi fares.

When at the same time you are giving filthy working girls hundred of dollars.

And paying hotels high dollars to use their fuckedup beds.

Just to dump your garbage.Not sure if you are addressing me with all of that or not, but I can assure you I don't over-pay girls or hotels. Why does paying the legal rate and nnot wanting to be taken advantage of make someone a miser?

Ciepkahunter
09-10-12, 06:44
Work is taking me to Panama for two weeks. I'll be in Panama City primarily but am taking 3 days off to go to one of the Pacific Beach resorts.

Can anyone tell me:

- Did the Crazy Horse strip club shut down? Looks like it is / was a good place.

- Are there working girls at the casino across from the newish Hard Rock Hotel?

- Can one bring up women if I were to say at the Hard Rock?

I know I will be venturing out to check out Habanos to smoke a Cuban and check out the ladies there. Hoping to find a few talented Columbianas to bring back to my room.

Thanks,

CiepkaHunter

TomJackin
09-10-12, 07:16
Why are you misers bargaining on a poor cab drivers taxi fares.

When at the same time you are giving filthy working girls hundred of dollars.Easy answer here!

Poor cab drivers are not fun to touch, lick, and fuck!

Filthy working girls? You might be in the wrong forum. I think that you might be better off in the Mister Rogers' Forum.

Tp Horn
09-11-12, 00:20
- Are there working girls at the casino across from the newish Hard Rock Hotel?The Hard Rock is only a couple of months old. The Majestic Casino is in the mall, which in turn is directly connected through a pedestrian bridge.

I've never seen obvious hookers there, certainly not like the hordes at the Veneto. Maybe it has changed with the opening of the Hard Rock.

Tbuss
09-11-12, 19:52
The Hard Rock is only a couple of months old. The Majestic Casino is in the mall, which in turn is directly connected through a pedestrian bridge.

I've never seen obvious hookers there, certainly not like the hordes at the Veneto. Maybe it has changed with the opening of the Hard Rock.There are usually 1-5 hookers in the Majestic at night- pretty obvious to spot playing slots by themselves or in small groups.

GauntMan
09-13-12, 00:47
This might not be directly related to Panama, but the personal contacts tab has been removed from all world regions of mundoanuncio. Might have been some big prostitution crack down. Now it has become a little harder to locate girls without having to make an in situ exploration for talent.

Just FYI

Seismo
09-17-12, 00:03
Ads are now under the heading "services"

Look under masaje-spas, also click on "otras"

Love Handler
09-20-12, 20:16
I was staying at the Veneto on Tuesday night and can report as follows:

I met up with a friend at Habanos at 10pm and the place was full. There were a large number of hot looking girls many 9s. I have never seen it so busy and with so many good looking chicas, must be new blood.

At 11pm we moved on to the Veneto, not the same level of quality however many of the chicas if they don't find a john in Habanos move onto the casino and vice versa.

Actually theres a constant stream between the 2 places. I did see a girl from Cartagena, who was an 8, in the casino who had been at Habanos. However she was requesting 150 dollars and didn't want to do BBBJ so I said no thanks.

There were a lot of girls in the Casino, what a change from just a few weeks ago. From 5s up to 8s maybe 1 or 2 9s. I don't think things have gotten worse or better, I just think it depends on what you night you go to these places and at what time. It seems to also depend on local politics between the government and police. You can walk round the casino see nothing walk round 20 mitues later and see some hot girls who have just arrived.

Similarly the amount of times I have seen hot girls leaving on the escalators wanting to shout "come back!", but a sign of desperation isn't a good starting point for negociating.

One thing that must be borne in mind is that each day some girls come from Colombia, some leave, some get picked up by the cops some get taken away for the night. You can never really rely on having the same night twice.

I expect that things are more easier to monitor in Costa Rica or Republica Dominicana because it is always at a high level where Panama City can be like night and day sometimes. That being said, if you happen to be vistiting Panama City just now you can get a very hot girl at Habanos just expect that it won't be cheap, but you get what you pay for. I expect to go back with some money and sample even if the service might not be 100% because some were just so damn pretty.

I myself took a panamanian girl back to the room who wasnt the prettiest in the casion nor the biggest fake tits, but she agreed to everything, was cheap, satisfied me and more importantly can come round and give me a BBBJ after getting off the plane. Sometimes 10-11pm is quite late and we want some action early on, which is harder to come by in Panama.

Anyway looking forward to going back in 2 weeks time, just hope it is like 2 nights ago.

Ac Danny
09-20-12, 21:23
Will be at Veneto 9/21-9/24, if you want to trade some mongering tales hit me up with a PM.

Mason419
09-23-12, 04:57
Need some advice on where to go for a massage. PM me

Tiny 12
09-24-12, 01:54
Need some advice on where to go for a massage. PM meThe closest place is Oasis, on southwest side of Via Veneto, below ground level, between the Panama and Veneto hotels. The best, if you can wait until after 7:30 PM and don't mind a 10 to 15 minute trip by taxi, is Golden Time, in Plaza Mirage on Tumba Muerto (also known as Ricardo J. Alfaro.) I'm assuming you're looking to get laid, not for just a massage.

Joe Shmoe
10-20-12, 17:10
Are the working girls in Panama, mainly Colombian? Or are there Panamanians as well?

Rippa
10-21-12, 03:47
are the working girls in panama, mainly colombian? or are there panamanians as well?

i've been mongering in panama for 3 years now, off and on, and my experience is the overwhelming majority of both the pros and semi-pros in the clubs are colombians. have met a few from venezuela and a rep001tering of beauties from the dominican republic and elsewhere in central america, but not too many. i've met a tiny handful of panamanian fl's in places like club habanos and the veneto, but with just one notable exception, definitely not up to grade vs. the damas de colombia.

no offense meant to my dear panamanian friends, as i truly love them as a people. but there is a reason why panamanian men aspire to date and marry colombianas, and why panamanian women generally dislike their lusty 'sisters' from the south.

just my. 02 worth. please report back your impressions.

Mfins
10-24-12, 03:29
i've been mongering in panama for 3 years now, off and on, and my experience is the overwhelming majority of both the pros and semi-pros in the clubs are colombians. have met a few from venezuela and a rep001tering of beauties from the dominican republic and elsewhere in central america, but not too many. i've met a tiny handful of panamanian fl's in places like club habanos and the veneto, but with just one notable exception, definitely not up to grade vs. the damas de colombia.

no offense meant to my dear panamanian friends, as i truly love them as a people. but there is a reason why panamanian men aspire to date and marry colombianas, and why panamanian women generally dislike their lusty 'sisters' from the south.

just my. 02 worth. please report back your impressions.there is something to be said for a colombiana aside from pure looks also. they seem to exude sexuality. also, by in large in bed they are fantastic. even there good time boxes. seem to be softer and better than most other latinas

AlexMo
10-29-12, 16:58
Will be in Panama soon and would to know about the quality and quanity of chicas at

Places such as Veneto, Habanos and Golden Time. It will be my first time there and I'll.

Only be there a few days. Would like to meet anyone that lives there or is familar with

The scene.

Thanks

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Joey Smith
11-11-12, 17:05
Hit Panama over the 9. 12 Nov weekend. Stayed at veneto hotel. Lots of good choices at the casino and also Habamos. But if you really just want to cut to the chase. Do your shopping at Habamos anytime after 9pm. That is where the best quality of chicas are hanging. Mostly Colombians. There is no need to pay over Cien.

Bonhead
11-15-12, 13:33
Club Ashe on Calle Uruguay on both Fri and Sat night was pretty good. If you need a reference point it's down the block from Hooters. Cover was maybe $5 or $8, I can't recall. A promo they were running for a big bottle and half bottle of Arguardiente was $40. Beers were $2-$3. Probably the closest thing I've seen to Help in Rio on this side of the world-meaning all freelancers, all pretty hot, most wanted $200-300 for TLN. I think short-time prices quoted were around $100-150. Good music too, typical Panamanian reggaeton / dancehall with the dj constantly chattering on the mic to hype up the crowd. *On a late late hour on Sat (5AM) going into Sunday the place was still going strong and turned into an after-hours spot of sorts, deep house and trance music-I heard the party will go till 8-9am. I pulled a 26 yo Panamanian girl out of there around 5:30a for a five hour (chem fueled) TLN rate of $100. Gave her $150 because she was awesome and also let me do her butthole.

Stopped by Elite on Sat night around 10pm. $30 cover includes open bar. The talent was pretty amazing, stunners everywhere with sculpted bodies that only a plastic surgeon could truly appreciate. Almost all Colombianas, at least 50 girls, strip shows, bachelor parties galore here. Didn't get prices for sessions or TLN but did get a phone number from a solid 9 who wanted to hang the next day. Never followed up. My buddy also got a number from a girl who did come by two days later and spent a solid 7 hours with him, no charge. She dialed up a friend for me who was a 20 cutie sweetheart from Manizales who also stayed for a good 4-5 hours, truly GFE, great body. She never asked for money but I slipped her $120 when she was leaving and she was cool with that-she was more concerned about connecting win me on twitter and FB.

Monday night at 7:30pm at the spot next door to La Mayor was prime-time. No cover, $1. 25 beers and about 30-45 girls, but that was tough to count as they are in and out of the back rooms often. Very seedy-if you've been to MDE, it's basically an indoor version of La Mayorista. Cheap at only $15 for 15 mins which includes the price of the room. The smell in the place is pretty off-putting, you really have to brave it for about 20 minutes before you start getting accustomed to it. A lot of fuglies but there were at least 10 very doable that I would give a 7. 5-8. 5. Mostly all colombianas. By comparison La Mayor was still charging a $3 cover and had a very dead atmosphere with only 15 girls max.

Tried a few times to convince my buddies to take a ride over to Colon to check out the scene and provide an update to the awesome times I reported on some years back, but it just never worked out.

Dinner at Miraflores was nice, restaurant overlooking the Panama Canal and locks. Get there early before it starts to get dark and ask for a table outside. $30 per person, buffet style.

Kman1
11-17-12, 10:47
Good report Bonhead. I arrive early 3am at PTY on a Thursday and guess it will be at least 4am by the time I check in at Veneto. Is there still talent at Veneto that time, these days? Are the night clubs you mentioned open at that hour on weekdays? How about Le Mayor and Boca Torena (the place next to Le Mayor) , are they still hopping early in the morning?

My initial POA would be to check in and find something at Veneto for a double nut. 1 to 2 hrs. I would only head out if that fails. If Veneto is out of the running, I am thinking of only checking in the next day to save some dough. Anyone know of a cheapie place by Boca Torena / Mayor to put my bags in and spend few hours at those venues and freshen up before I head to Veneto where its a 4 pm check in? Any feedback from Panama Vets appreciated. Thanks in advance.

GauntMan
11-23-12, 01:26
i've been mongering in panama for 3 years now, off and on, and my experience is the overwhelming majority of both the pros and semi-pros in the clubs are colombians. have met a few from venezuela and a rep001tering of beauties from the dominican republic and elsewhere in central america, but not too many. i've met a tiny handful of panamanian fl's in places like club habanos and the veneto, but with just one notable exception, definitely not up to grade vs. the damas de colombia.

no offense meant to my dear panamanian friends, as i truly love them as a people. but there is a reason why panamanian men aspire to date and marry colombianas, and why panamanian women generally dislike their lusty 'sisters' from the south.

just my. 02 worth. please report back your impressions.thats true. panamanians are cold blooded, trained to marry, have kids and be the home matriarch, period. colombianas are caring, sexy, sensual everything else the panamanians lack. i've yet to met a panamanian as hot in body and in mind as their colombiana counterparts!

GauntMan
11-23-12, 01:29
*On a late late hour on Sat (5AM) going into Sunday the place was still going strong and turned into an after-hours spot of sorts, deep house and trance music-I heard the party will go till 8-9am.You might have hit ashe on a break weekend for the zanahoria law. The Mayor has authority to declare tomate law (spanish tomate for tomate todo lo que quieras or drink all you want). The Zanahoria Law is in full effect, closing sun-wed at 2am thurs-sat at 3am.

Most probably, there will be tomate law in effect the weekend of nov 23-24, as there is a holiday on Wednesday 28th, but the goverment moved the festivity for Monday 26th. This will be a long weekend

GauntMan
11-23-12, 01:32
Mundoanuncio has finally meet its end. No personals are being listed, as you are redirected to another domain when you choose a country, and there are no personals section

Kman1
11-23-12, 11:26
I am going to answer my own question. Veneto is damn well and alive, so much for the carrot law crap. Who cares if they stop serving alcohol at 2 or 3, the casino goes well after and so do the damas, some freakin hot, I almost feel like I am in Brazil. The Cali chicas are the hottest of them all, Panamanians are second IMO. Spent several hours at Bocatorena today and I can write a book about it. I almost left in the first few minutes, but braved it with a beer and the got rewarded with a fine and unique mongering experience. You can't expect to finish the deed here every time, the knock on the door comes well before the so called 20 mins, but as I found a dollar tip discreetly to the guy who knocks will buy you a good 10 mins more. Its like an appetizer platter, you can try several of them for $15 each, less than what you pay for a lap dance in the US. The place reeks but I got over it in a little bit, there's almost a 100 girls in there, some with a 10 body and I can tell you for 15 bucks, you can't beat that. Everyone from the street cleaner to a taxi driver is in there, not for the faint of heart. Le mayor is more mellow and a bit upscale but after boca I was bored at mayor.

Just had a taxi guy outside Veneto get me some chilled beer (he actually got them in an ice bag) after the 3am cutoff. Won some dinero at the BJ tables as I expected though it took a while this time, if you can't win here you can't win anywhere else!


Good report Bonhead. I arrive early 3am at PTY on a Thursday and guess it will be at least 4am by the time I check in at Veneto. Is there still talent at Veneto that time, these days? Are the night clubs you mentioned open at that hour on weekdays? How about Le Mayor and Boca Torena (the place next to Le Mayor) , are they still hopping early in the morning?

My initial POA would be to check in and find something at Veneto for a double nut. 1 to 2 hrs. I would only head out if that fails. If Veneto is out of the running, I am thinking of only checking in the next day to save some dough. Anyone know of a cheapie place by Boca Torena / Mayor to put my bags in and spend few hours at those venues and freshen up before I head to Veneto where its a 4 pm check in? Any feedback from Panama Vets appreciated. Thanks in advance.

Kman1
11-26-12, 06:18
So I decided to check out bocatorena again on Saturday evening. Bad idea. Wall to wall people, too many hombres this nite. I couldn't find the door to the other bar, this place is basically a duplex with two sides that have their own bars and own private rooms in the back. The rooms behind the main entrance are better. I had to leave right away since the situation was a serious safety hazard just given the number of people in there. I went on Thursday previoulsy and it was much better.

Then I went to Mayor, the girls here hustle you a bit, they want you to buy a small pitcher of beer for $20 first, not worth in IMO. Once you get close to finishing it they start asking for another, BullShit. I walked out at that point. It doesn't make sense to do this if you don't even speak Spanish. When I was in Le mayor last year I did not have to go thru this, if a girl asks you for a pitcher think twice if you really want to waste $20. The pitcher is not more than 3 bottles (1. 20$ each).

Update on Veneto. Seems like Veneto only allows about 50 girls each nite starting around 8pm. If you go to the side entrance which takes you to the Fiesta casino / El Panama hotel around 7:30 PM you will see a parade of WG's waiting to get in. Those that arrive after the cutoff wait outside the main entrance waiting for a guest to take them in as they cannot go in alone. Security is really tough on these girls now, wasn't the case last year. Looks like the regular hardcore ones always get in, they know their way in. Check outside for the fresher ones later in the night, the one's outside are pretty negotiable since their entering the casino depends on you. Once you are done with them then they can hang out in the casino and continue working.


I am going to answer my own question. Veneto is damn well and alive, so much for the carrot law crap. Who cares if they stop serving alcohol at 2 or 3, the casino goes well after and so do the damas, some freakin hot, I almost feel like I am in Brazil. The Cali chicas are the hottest of them all, Panamanians are second IMO. Spent several hours at Bocatorena today and I can write a book about it. I almost left in the first few minutes, but braved it with a beer and the got rewarded with a fine and unique mongering experience. You can't expect to finish the deed here every time, the knock on the door comes well before the so called 20 mins, but as I found a dollar tip discreetly to the guy who knocks will buy you a good 10 mins more. Its like an appetizer platter, you can try several of them for $15 each, less than what you pay for a lap dance in the US. The place reeks but I got over it in a little bit, there's almost a 100 girls in there, some with a 10 body and I can tell you for 15 bucks, you can't beat that. Everyone from the street cleaner to a taxi driver is in there, not for the faint of heart. Le mayor is more mellow and a bit upscale but after boca I was bored at mayor.

Just had a taxi guy outside Veneto get me some chilled beer (he actually got them in an ice bag) after the 3am cutoff. Won some dinero at the BJ tables as I expected though it took a while this time, if you can't win here you can't win anywhere else!

Travelier
12-01-12, 00:15
Friends, I have a 4 hour evening layover in Panama and I am interested in a spot near there airport where I can find willing chicas.

Thanks!

Tiny 12
12-01-12, 22:16
Friends, I have a 4 hour evening layover in Panama and I am interested in a spot near there airport where I can find willing chicas.

Thanks!Go to Golden Time. It's between the airport and downtown, kind of. Don't go if your flight coming in is late or if it takes a lot of time to clear immigration. You'll need maybe 30 minutes to get there and 30 minutes to get back. Also take into account that it doesn't open until 7:00 PM or 7:30 PM -- I can't remember which. It's better going early btw -- the selection is better.

GauntMan
12-13-12, 05:40
Who cares if they stop serving alcohol at 2 or 3, the casino goes well after and so do the damasHey Kman,

Don't know if you are aware that you can actually order alcohol to your room, as the law doesn't cover your room since its considered your private house, so you can drink as you please

TkNadim
12-23-12, 09:53
Does anyone know if Continental Hotel is chica friendly? Can I bring chicks to my room?

Viva Chicas
12-23-12, 18:29
Hello TkNadim:

The Hotel Continental is NOT guest friendly. When you find your true love, have a taxi take you Los Arcos. This is a very nice short time hotel. The price is $13 for two hours. 5 minutes away by taxi.

Kman1
12-25-12, 04:58
Hey Kman,

Don't know if you are aware that you can actually order alcohol to your room, as the law doesn't cover your room since its considered your private house, so you can drink as you pleaseThanks GauntMan. They hid this secret pretty well from me. ;-)

Lusifer69
12-25-12, 19:03
Hello everyone,

I am planning a small 2 days trip to Panama city on my way to Colombia.

Is there a Panama City map or list of places?

SL Willie
12-26-12, 17:19
Check out Google maps, very detailed.

Tbuss
12-27-12, 18:00
Hello everyone,

I am planning a small 2 days trip to Panama city on my way to Colombia.

Is there a Panama City map or list of places?Unlike other cities I've never seen a map of places in Panama City. There aren't many- the Veneto is right on Via Veneto, every taxi driver will know it. Habanos is right across from the Marriott Hotel in Obarrio. Golden Time is on Tumba Muerto in El Dorrado- near Novey. Club Miami (not recommended IMHO) is in El Dorado near the Nikos Cafe. Ashe is on Calle Uruguay. Le Palace (Very High priced) is around the corner from Habanos. You will also catch some girls at the Manolos diner across from the Veneto hotel.

Lucky Strike
12-29-12, 03:41
Gentlemen,

Does anyone have experience with Trump Ocean Club in PTY? Is it guest-friendly? Is there any "action" within reasonable walking distance? How long is a taxi ride to the well known establishments?

I really appreciate any and all comments.

/Lucky Strike/

Tiny 12
12-29-12, 21:20
Hello everyone,

I am planning a small 2 days trip to Panama city on my way to Colombia.

Is there a Panama City map or list of places?I can't get links to work, but go Fantasy's post #1737 on 7/25/2007 for a map. I nominated that as a report of distinction and also provided a list in post #18 in Reports of Distinction. The preceding are for downtown locations. You should also go to Golden Time. The map is little dated but the major hot spots, being Veneto Casino, Habano's, Oasis, Le Palace and Elite are still around and going strong.

Tiny 12
12-29-12, 21:26
Gentlemen,

Does anyone have experience with Trump Ocean Club in PTY? Is it guest-friendly? Is there any "action" within reasonable walking distance? How long is a taxi ride to the well known establishments?

I really appreciate any and all comments.

/Lucky Strike/I have no personal experience but think I read somewhere that it is guest friendly. Don't take my word for it though. It's not that far from downtown hotspots, but if the traffic's bad you could be looking at 30 minutes. If not maybe 10 minutes. I don't know of any PFP action in the immediate area.

Lucky Strike
12-30-12, 19:55
I have no personal experience but think I read somewhere that it is guest friendly. Don't take my word for it though. It's not that far from downtown hotspots, but if the traffic's bad you could be looking at 30 minutes. If not maybe 10 minutes. I don't know of any PFP action in the immediate area.Thanks Tiny 12. This is the kind of info I was looking for. After living for a number of years in a small town, I definitely need to be reminded about the traffic. On google maps it all looks fairly close together. Maybe 1. 5-2mi. Seems like I can cover the distance by walking in less than 30min. Is it safe to walk to the "action zone" from Trump? During day? During night?

/L. S/

Tiny 12
01-08-13, 05:58
Sorry for the late reply LS, I haven't been following the board. Sounds like you've got a map. I'd feel reasonably safe walking on Avenida Balboa, Calle Uruguay, Via Espana, or Via Veneto any hour of the day or night. The walk from Calle Uruguay or Elite to Le Palace or Habano's is a little sketchy late at night. Taxis are cheap though, and late at night there's no traffic. Avenida Balboa is where you sometimes have problems with traffic. It's getting from Trump to downtown that can be a problem at times, although usually it's quicker to take a taxi. Once you're in the area where the hot spots are, traffic's usually not a problem.

Helpmann
01-08-13, 12:52
...Is there a Panama City map or list of places?The only map that I have ever seen posted.

-Helpmann :)

Bucko911
01-09-13, 03:02
Gentlemen;

I'm a long time monger, first time in PTY next month. From what I've read, seems like Veneto is the place to stay. Looking for some current info on quality, prices and locations. Short Time and all nighters. What are the terms for MSOG, BBBJ, Greek?

Zorn Of Zorna
01-10-13, 16:22
I'll be in Panama City for a few days in a couple of weeks, staying at the Holiday Inn Panama Canal in Ciudad del Saber (I don't get any choice about this). My preference would be to get girls outcall to the hotel from agencies, but I would appreciate if anyone has local intelligence for me.

Do you know whether I will have any problem with outcall visits to this hotel? Anything I should know? Security guys to tip?

Is there a better way to enjoy some girls while I am there? I won't have much time, don't speak Spanish, and will probably be a bit jetlagged (coming from Europe) , so would prefer something easy, rather than a night-long tour of Panama City's most exciting brothels.

Many thanks!

Prince Zorn

Trojan 76
01-11-13, 06:41
Does anyone know if the Doubletree hotel on Espana Ave is Girl Friendly?

Thank you

Lucky Strike
01-13-13, 22:07
The only map that I have ever seen posted.

-Helpmann.The PTY thread hasn't been very "popular" lately, so every informative posting is truly appreciated.

I'll add my trip reports in a few weeks.

L. S.

Tbuss
01-13-13, 23:27
I'll be in Panama City for a few days in a couple of weeks, staying at the Holiday Inn Panama Canal in Ciudad del Saber (I don't get any choice about this). My preference would be to get girls outcall to the hotel from agencies, but I would appreciate if anyone has local intelligence for me.

Do you know whether I will have any problem with outcall visits to this hotel? Anything I should know? Security guys to tip?

Is there a better way to enjoy some girls while I am there? I won't have much time, don't speak Spanish, and will probably be a bit jetlagged (coming from Europe) , so would prefer something easy, rather than a night-long tour of Panama City's most exciting brothels.

Many thanks!

Prince ZornYou can go to incall places like Golden Time, Gold Finger Club Miami etc. You can use the cheap "push" hotels to bring independent girls to.

Tiny 12
01-14-13, 06:17
I'll be in Panama City for a few days in a couple of weeks, staying at the Holiday Inn Panama Canal in Ciudad del Saber (I don't get any choice about this). My preference would be to get girls outcall to the hotel from agencies, You could try http://www.girlpanama.com/. I used them once about a year ago. Cost was $150 for about an hour, although I note they have some women on the web site for $80 to $90. Service was excellent, and I believe she was the woman in the photo. They didn't show her face in the photos though, and so she was less attractive than I expected. She would have gone for $100 or less at Veneto or Habano's. I've met but not fucked a second woman who's pimped on the same web site, and she was very attractive.

It's unlikely anyone here will have a clue as to whether your hotel is girl friendly, as it's off the beaten path. I'd tell them beforehand your Colombian girlfriend will be visiting you and ask them if they have a problem with you taking her to the room. If they do have a problem follow Tbuss' advice.

Zorn Of Zorna
01-15-13, 17:11
I'd tell them beforehand your Colombian girlfriend will be visiting you and ask them if they have a problem with you taking her to the room.I can just see how that would go. Desk: "Yes, sir, that will be fine. What is her name?" Me: "Err."

Thanks, both for your help. It now seems I might move into town for one night as a tourist. Any recommendations for hotels other than the seemingly famous Veneto? I'd like to be not quite so obvious if my office needs to keep track of me (we have rather strict security rules).

Prince Zorn

Joe Shmoe
01-16-13, 07:11
I'd like to hear from anyone that's fairly recently been to both san jose and Panama, how do they compare in terms of mongering? I just got back from san jose and people say that its nothing like it used to be since the crackdown on immigration. So the number of girls at delrey has gone down, including many of the Colombians. I spoke with a chica in san jose and she was telling me about Panama and how hot the girls are there since they have such a variety from colombians, panamanians, dominicans, etc. So do you guys think Panama has picked up some of the talent from Costa rica?

Akatl
01-20-13, 05:41
Does anyone knows if Hotel Agua Miel, Hilton Garden Inn Panama or Hotel San Roque Panama is chica friendly?

Nixonbd
01-20-13, 16:38
I'd like to hear from anyone that's fairly recently been to both san jose and Panama, how do they compare in terms of mongering? I just got back from san jose and people say that its nothing like it used to be since the crackdown on immigration. So the number of girls at delrey has gone down, including many of the Colombians. I spoke with a chica in san jose and she was telling me about Panama and how hot the girls are there since they have such a variety from colombians, panamanians, dominicans, etc. So do you guys think Panama has picked up some of the talent from Costa rica?Pretty much the same thing in PC. The police raids have cut the number of Colombia's down considerably. Habanos is nothing like it was since they remodeled it; drinks and girls are both overpriced. Veneto still gets some lookers, but they limit the number that they allow in at peak hours. All in all, I prefer SJO for the variety of women, IMHO. In fact make a return to the HDR in three weeks.

Nixonbd
01-20-13, 16:41
I can just see how that would go. Desk: "Yes, sir, that will be fine. What is her name?" Me: "Err."

Thanks, both for your help. It now seems I might move into town for one night as a tourist. Any recommendations for hotels other than the seemingly famous Veneto? I'd like to be not quite so obvious if my office needs to keep track of me (we have rather strict security rules).

Prince ZornI recommend Tower House Suites; no guest fee, two blocks from Habanos, Hooters and Elite; 5. 6 blocks from Veneto.

Tbuss
01-21-13, 01:33
Pretty much the same thing in PC. The police raids have cut the number of Colombia's down considerably. Habanos is nothing like it was since they remodeled it; drinks and girls are both overpriced. Veneto still gets some lookers, but they limit the number that they allow in at peak hours. All in all, I prefer SJO for the variety of women, IMHO. In fact make a return to the HDR in three weeks.It's slow now at Habano's because many of the girls have not come back from their Christmas holiday in Colombia. Prior to that it was pretty full. They haven't had major raids in over 1. 5 years.

For the other poster, San Roque is not guest friendly.

Joe Shmoe
01-21-13, 21:19
Pretty much the same thing in PC. The police raids have cut the number of Colombia's down considerably. Habanos is nothing like it was since they remodeled it; drinks and girls are both overpriced. Veneto still gets some lookers, but they limit the number that they allow in at peak hours. All in all, I prefer SJO for the variety of women, IMHO. In fact make a return to the HDR in three weeks.I didn't know there were crackdowns and raids in PC also. That sucks cause I love the Colombianas. Might have to go straight to the motherland!

Snipps
01-22-13, 23:52
I didn't know there were crackdowns and raids in PC also. That sucks cause I love the Colombianas. Might have to go straight to the motherland!There hasnt been a crackdown in a while. I was there about 6 months ago, they did limit the amout of women that were coming intot he veneto on a nightly basis. Not sure if that is still the case. Anyone who has recently stood at the veneto, can you please share how the scene looks. Thanks

Joe Shmoe
01-23-13, 05:27
There hasnt been a crackdown in a while. I was there about 6 months ago, they did limit the amout of women that were coming intot he veneto on a nightly basis. Not sure if that is still the case. Anyone who has recently stood at the veneto, can you please share how the scene looks. ThanksAny idea what the limit is? So is the Veneto the PC version of Del rey? I'd say when I was at HDR, there were maybe 60 girls during peak times. I could be off though.

Mellowg
01-25-13, 14:04
I was there about 6 months ago, they did limit the amout of women that were coming intot he veneto on a nightly basis. Not sure if that is still the case. Anyone who has recently stood at the veneto, can you please share how the scene looks.The limit seems to be self imposed. They limit the number of girls according to the number of patrons in the casino.

When males show up the quantity of ladies who are permited in are adjusted. Otherwise you would have nights where there would be a sea of bolts-on and it might lead to open warfare on the casino floor.

Just MHO.

As for the scene, the tourist season is starting so especially on weekends the place I lively. Early evening is rather calm.

Enjoy.

Mellow

Frobisher Bay
01-30-13, 16:45
The limit seems to be self imposed. They limit the number of girls according to the number of patrons in the casino.

When males show up the quantity of ladies who are permited in are adjusted. Otherwise you would have nights where there would be a sea of bolts-on and it might lead to open warfare on the casino floor.

Just MHO.

As for the scene, the tourist season is starting so especially on weekends the place I lively. Early evening is rather calm.

Enjoy.

MellowThe Veneto sounds really good for a 1st timer in Panama? But how about the Continental Hotel and Casino? 3 day deal on Orbitz is $100 less than for the Veneto, so that is an extra girl!

Mellowg
02-01-13, 04:14
The Veneto sounds really good for a 1st timer in Panama? But how about the Continental Hotel and Casino? 3 day deal on Orbitz is $100 less than for the Veneto, so that is an extra girl!Sorry FB.

Mellow

Tiny 12
02-02-13, 01:36
The Veneto sounds really good for a 1st timer in Panama? But how about the Continental Hotel and Casino? 3 day deal on Orbitz is $100 less than for the Veneto, so that is an extra girl!At last report it was not girl friendly. If you do stay there try to get a room on one of the higher floors if you're a light sleeper like me. Traffic noise is a problem.

BeFun
02-11-13, 14:49
The only map that I have ever seen posted.

-Helpmann.Where can you find the original map on the web?

Thanks!

Pescador Loco
02-14-13, 14:12
The Veneto sounds really good for a 1st timer in Panama? But how about the Continental Hotel and Casino? 3 day deal on Orbitz is $100 less than for the Veneto, so that is an extra girl!Traffic noise is really really bad at Continental. Plus overall the Veneto is much nicer.

Tp Horn
02-15-13, 15:26
I had the chance to revisit Royal Elegance recently. There were only 3 women that paraded out, none too striking. 5 to 7 tops. I picked out a colombiana who was 30-ish and a little thick, but she distributed the extra pounds well. She had a great personality, and was awesome and enthusiastic in the sack for round one, and clearly enjoyed the proceedings. Then she suggested to call in a friend for a trio, and I obliged. In came an attractive olive-skinned panameña who wasn't in the original lineup. I was very surprised, because I had never seen a panameña working girl that wasn't a morenita. She had a bit of a belly but an awesome set of naturally upstanding tits. The colombiana and I shared the panameña's pussy for a bit, but the colombiana's time expired. I continued alone on the panameña. During the oral and later intercourse she came several times with awesome guttural moans and convulsions. She seemed to have more fun than I, not that I was complaining. Very enjoyable experience.

Dave_Far
02-17-13, 22:08
Anyone know what's the table minimum bet for craps and BJ at the Veneto and marriott casinos?

Thanks in advance

Tbuss
02-17-13, 22:27
Anyone know what's the table minimum bet for craps and BJ at the Veneto and marriott casinos?

Thanks in advanceThe only craps tables that I'm aware of are at the Veneto and Majestic Casino, Marriott's Royal Casino does not have one. I believe the minimum bet for BJ is $3 and craps $5- could be wrong on the craps however as I haven't played it in a while.

The Dirty Pirate
02-21-13, 15:25
I will be in Panama City this weekend at the Veneto if anyone wants to hang out, send a PM.

Mfins
02-22-13, 05:20
Went to PC this weekend with my girlfriend but we hung out at habanos and Veneto a lot. I did not partake in any of the action but I did a lot of looking and talking.

Panama is night and day better then when I was there about 8 months ago. Tons of girls and quite a few that were very very hot! A lot of plastic of course on the colombianas.

Asche was also very lively. We drank untill about 3am every night except Sunday and Monday. Maybe I don't remember the exact time but everyone I spoke to told me they serve untill 4am on Friday and Sat. I thought it stopped at 3am but, I think its 4am, On Sunday and Monday the bars did stop at 2am.

Stayed at the New Hard Rock Hotel, and what a great place. Just gorgeous. Only issue is the price. $4. 00 for a can of diet coke is a lot. $16 for a shot of tequila et.

I Talked to some old friends (colombianas) from years past and they all were at about $150-$200. However I am sure time and price was negotiable. Seemed as though there was more supply and demand.

The girls were still Playing on there Blackberrys all night and had that "attitude" they are famous for but, I was very impressed. I remember the good old days of PC (5 years ago) and Maybe PC is making a comeback.

I think I will be making a trip there without my GF soon.

The Dirty Pirate
02-23-13, 20:14
Where to begin. After some drinks and some cheap gambling I went to Golden Times, did the usual got dropped off at the Taco Bell by the Casino, which changed it's name I can't recall what it is now. They asked if it was my first time, I told them no, they asked when I was there last, which was last May I believe. They told me some things had changed and charged me 115 for the hour. I told them I was without a taxi, they insisted it was 115 without the taxi commission. I watch the lineup come through, most of them appeared to be cold fish besides a couple, I chose #47 her name was Andrea. She starts with the massage for maybe 5 minutes or so, flips me over and touches my junk a little bit before suiting me up for a CBJ. I try to play with the titties a little bit and she stops me, starts doing the leche papi bullshit we all have grown to hate. After a couple minutes I was pretty fed up with her bullshit so I jack hammered my load out and GTFO. She was dressed and had the sheets changed before I got out of the shower. I think I was there for 25 minutes tops. Needless to say I will never go there again, I said this last May as well but now I am for sure about the decision haha. Fast forward to later on that night, I am talking and gambling with this chica from Venezuela, she seemed fun, we were having fun in the casino. Never talked about money or anything, we go upstairs, she was pretty wild. Biting me and spanking me, the whole nine yards. After it's all said and done with we are laying in bed for a while she says you know you have to pay me right? I said of course, I go to give her 80, she is fucking pissed, I offer 100, she is calling me cheap and shit saying the price is 200. Now I am not one to heckle over some money with putas, it's just not any fun for me. I tell her 200 is too expensive, she says no 500 is too expensive. In the end she left me her number and took the 100 bucks. Plenty of girls around, I am fine with paying 100 for short time but 200 is jut out of line. We'll see what I get into tonight I suppose. No way I am forking out 200 for one of these girls when I can get the same or better back home for 80.

The Dirty Pirate
02-24-13, 19:15
Went to Gold Fingers at around 8 PM. I was somewhat hesitant after my last two visits there, super hot chicas but not very fun. Anyways I stroll in, they do their parade, what I like about Gold Fingers is the girls continue to stand there after the introduction versus walking away, so you can make a bit more eye contact plus can make a better decision. Anyways, great line up, very minimal silicone and I think every butt in there was natural, surprisingly. Haha. I picked #8 I believe, she said she was 22, from Medellin, and all natural. She was wearing some hot little lingerie and never stopped smiling while I was trying to decide who to take upstairs. They stopped giving you a free beer maybe they had some issues with a liquor license? Also they didn't raise their price like Golden Time, maybe they just fucked with me over there but I heard two other guys get quoted 115 as well. Anyways, paid the 94 bucks and went upstairs, got a great massage, tons of ball play and then this girl rode me like a champ. For a moment I thought I was in Cuba, which says a lot for anyone who knows how well those girls ride the dick. She was tight, proper and everything I needed to rebound from all the 200 dollar hustlers at the Veneto. I even gave this chick a tip which is something I almost never do but the smile on my face couldn't be bigger. I stopped back into the supermercado for a couple cans of Cuba Libre and headed back to the Veneto. After freshening up and having my Cubas I went downstairs to do some more gambling. Veneto was packed, it was about 11PM, lots of guys and chicas. Played Ultimate Texas Holdem for a while and won 85 bucks, which I decided should go to one last chica, who happened to be playing with us at the table and later on hanging on me for a while so I figured why the hell not. She asked for 150, I said no, she said OK 130. We get up to the room, she is asking for the money right away, I decline and tell her ahi esta la puerta and point to the door. She tells me she doesn't want any issues, asks me to put the money on the table, I told her she just seen me cash out of the table, you know I have the money in my wallet, she finally calms down and gave me the closest I have gotten to a GFE in Panama. Later on she was telling me she was Catholic and tried to make me do a prayer, I told her I wasn't religious and refused, she got all mad and stormed out talking smack down the hotel hallway at like 2:30am, I was totally drunk, in the hallway in my underwear laughing at her all the way to the elevator. Not that there is anything wrong with being religious, to each their own, but how she reacted was totally amusing at the time. All in all I ended up changing my flight to go back home a day early and don't see myself going to Panama City again any time soon, at least to monger. Too much silicone, too many cold as ice chicas asking for way too much money and not much for massage parlors. I also stopped in Boca Toreno in the early afternoon but left after a few minutes, it was actually very quiet inside. Same with the Oriental place on Via Argentina, two chicks both looking incredibly bored and unresponsive to my hello. If a chica can't even return a hello how does she or the management expect someone to pick her?

Snipps
02-25-13, 23:21
Went to PC this weekend with my girlfriend but we hung out at habanos and Veneto a lot. I did not partake in any of the action but I did a lot of looking and talking.

Panama is night and day better then when I was there about 8 months ago. Tons of girls and quite a few that were very very hot! A lot of plastic of course on the colombianas.

Asche was also very lively. We drank untill about 3am every night except Sunday and Monday. Maybe I don't remember the exact time but everyone I spoke to told me they serve untill 4am on Friday and Sat. I thought it stopped at 3am but, I think its 4am, On Sunday and Monday the bars did stop at 2am.

Stayed at the New Hard Rock Hotel, and what a great place. Just gorgeous. Only issue is the price. $4. 00 for a can of diet coke is a lot. $16 for a shot of tequila et.

I Talked to some old friends (colombianas) from years past and they all were at about $150-$200. However I am sure time and price was negotiable. Seemed as though there was more supply and demand.

The girls were still Playing on there Blackberrys all night and had that "attitude" they are famous for but, I was very impressed. I remember the good old days of PC (5 years ago) and Maybe PC is making a comeback.

I think I will be making a trip there without my GF soon.Mfins are you serious. I remember last time we spoke you and I agreed not to go back and the quality has dropped hahaha. Pty is crazy, it definately has its days. When are you thinking about going back. Watch when we decide to go it will be back to the way it used to be. Thanks for the report.

Joey Smith
02-26-13, 01:09
Fellows don't pay $150 or more for the ladies at Venetto or Habamos. Every time I visited Panama the chicas start at $150 or higher but will always come down if you simply tell them $120 or less. Plenty of high quality ladies who will take a lower offer.

The Dirty Pirate
02-26-13, 14:43
Fellows don't pay $150 or more for the ladies at Venetto or Habamos. Every time I visited Panama the chicas start at $150 or higher but will always come down if you simply tell them $120 or less. Plenty of high quality ladies who will take a lower offer.Yea I was pretty surprised, even the not the best looking chicas asking for $200. Last May I had no problem getting them for $80-$100, this trip they were laughing at that.

Mfins
02-27-13, 05:37
Mfins are you serious. I remember last time we spoke you and I agreed not to go back and the quality has dropped hahaha. Pty is crazy, it definately has its days. When are you thinking about going back. Watch when we decide to go it will be back to the way it used to be. Thanks for the report.Snipps. I was thinking about you when I was writing the last post. The weekend I was there, there was a ton of talent and plenty of girls. You are right thou, If we decide to go it will probably be the opposite. I also, can not speak to how the girls were during a session. I would suspect its all business, clock watching and robot like. However I don't know. I just get the feeling the days of the full "GFE" is over for Panama. I can say however, IF my friends wanted to try it out for a weekend I would go back. Maybe during March madness or something as the sports books in Panama are very cool.

However, my advice to the board is don't go trying to spend $80 per session at Habanos or Veneto. I suppose its possible with the lower tier but, my friend was there with us and he spent half the night trying to save $50. 00-$70. 00. Asking different girls over and over, et. I finally said " man just bite the bullet" Its just not worth the BS over $50. 00. Getting turned down 25+ times. Also If you go back the next night you walk in to habanos or veneto and all the girls have you pegged as a penny pincher. Certainly don't over pay and ruin the market but, I just can not see spending hours and hours haggling with different girls only to have the roll there eyes at you. If you get a good feeling from one of them and the vibe is right make the deal and enjoy the vacation.

Mfins
02-27-13, 05:40
On a side note, I was talking to one of my Colombiana friends down there who I have known for years. She is definately not one of the top earners and definately lacks in the looks dept but she said she is making about $3000 a month. Not bad.

Also, Went to Miami Club when I was there late on a Saturday night and the place was dead and awful.

Dave_Far
02-27-13, 10:53
Haven't been to Panama but I read past posts and thought I had a good idea of the ballbark price. But after some more recent posts, it seems the prices have gone up.

So what's the expected $. I'll narrow it down to girl at Venetos or Habanos. And some of the prices, someone quoted $150 for example, that's just for short time? Basically once your done the girl leaves or is that $150 for a set time like an hour?

Tbuss
02-27-13, 17:54
Haven't been to Panama but I read past posts and thought I had a good idea of the ballbark price. But after some more recent posts, it seems the prices have gone up.

So what's the expected $. I'll narrow it down to girl at Venetos or Habanos. And some of the prices, someone quoted $150 for example, that's just for short time? Basically once your done the girl leaves or is that $150 for a set time like an hour?In Veneto or Habanos the girls are independents, so the price is fully negotiable. The girls will often ask for $150 or $200 or even more, if you counter them you can often get it down to $100. There are a lot of variables in this including how you counter them, what time of night it is, how busy it is etc.

The more guys that refuse to pay the $150 or $200 the better it is for all the other guys. To answer your other question- yes, that price is typically for 1 hour- since they are independents though, they are on their own clock. How long they stay is also negotiable and can also be affected by your ability to charm them and have they stay longer- if you want them too.

Mfins
02-28-13, 06:05
"The more guys that refuse to pay the $150 or $200 the better it is for all the other guys"

Please don't take offense Tbuss as I agree with the rest of your post but, which one of us is going to take the first bullet for the team and go to Panama and stick to our guns of not paying the $150. 00. Anyone, anyone. Not I. Sorry fellow Mongers but, I can not ruin my trip just to play hard ball for the rest of you.

That aside, The problem is the few of us on ISG won't make a difference. The money down there is coming from the Business man who flys in stays at the MArriott and goes across the street to Habanos. His company is expensing the trip and he doesn't care if he pays $200.$300 for a hot colombian because its something different then his boring wife back home and its also $500 cheaper than the typical escort he is used to in Vegas. My chica friends down there tell me Monday is usually the best night because of all the new people in town for there business meetings, conventions et. Unfortunately as good as it sounds to try and keep the price down, us few on this board just won't make a difference. The only thing keeping the price where it is (at $150) is the sheer number of colombianas. If somehow the supply was cut in half I think the price would double.

Also, I saw two guys, down there at Venetos and Habanas on Friday and Saturday night. They had there mind made up they were going to pay no more than $85. 00 because that was the price at the massage parlor. They sat there nursing there beer all night Gawking at the girls, and getting rejected over and over again untill finally no othere girls would talk to them. It was sad. They looked pathetic. I see so many of these types at Habanos just sitting there oogling the chicas but either never making a move or being to cheap to do so and / or land one. To me thats just sad. Go have fun spend a few extra bucks and enjoy.

Joey Smith
02-28-13, 12:22
In Veneto or Habanos the girls are independents, so the price is fully negotiable. The girls will often ask for $150 or $200 or even more, if you counter them you can often get it down to $100. There are a lot of variables in this including how you counter them, what time of night it is, how busy it is etc.

The more guys that refuse to pay the $150 or $200 the better it is for all the other guys. To answer your other question- yes, that price is typically for 1 hour- since they are independents though, they are on their own clock. How long they stay is also negotiable and can also be affected by your ability to charm them and have they stay longer- if you want them too.Nice to hear the pricing created a nice healthly discussion on fair prices. Each fellow will pay what he wants in the long run. I just don't pay more than $120 and have never had a problem in the last 3 years I've been going to Panama. Will be there this weekend and will get the ground truth, but I seriously doubt I will have any problem.

Stay horny my friends

Snipps
03-02-13, 06:24
"The more guys that refuse to pay the $150 or $200 the better it is for all the other guys"

Please don't take offense Tbuss as I agree with the rest of your post but, which one of us is going to take the first bullet for the team and go to Panama and stick to our guns of not paying the $150. 00. Anyone, anyone. Not I. Sorry fellow Mongers but, I can not ruin my trip just to play hard ball for the rest of you.

That aside, The problem is the few of us on ISG won't make a difference. The money down there is coming from the Business man who flys in stays at the MArriott and goes across the street to Habanos. His company is expensing the trip and he doesn't care if he pays $200. $300 for a hot colombian because its something different then his boring wife back home and its also $500 cheaper than the typical escort he is used to in Vegas. My chica friends down there tell me Monday is usually the best night because of all the new people in town for there business meetings, conventions et. Unfortunately as good as it sounds to try and keep the price down, us few on this board just won't make a difference. The only thing keeping the price where it is (at $150) is the sheer number of colombianas. If somehow the supply was cut in half I think the price would double.

Also, I saw two guys, down there at Venetos and Habanas on Friday and Saturday night. They had there mind made up they were going to pay no more than $85. 00 because that was the price at the massage parlor. They sat there nursing there beer all night Gawking at the girls, and getting rejected over and over again untill finally no othere girls would talk to them. It was sad. They looked pathetic. I see so many of these types at Habanos just sitting there oogling the chicas but either never making a move or being to cheap to do so and / or land one. To me thats just sad. Go have fun spend a few extra bucks and enjoy.Mfins I totally agree, I've been there maybe 6-7 times. The last time I went, the women were all business. I have charm, and can talk to these women in spanish, and have a great time with them. I like to have a drink, eat with them, etc. But at the end of the day all they want is money. The chicas ALWAYS start at $150, I usually always bring them down to $100 which I am fine to pay. BUT if a chica I REALLY like is asking for $150 I will hop on it in a heart beat. You need to remember, these girls are gorgggeousseeeeeeeee. (colombiana off course) we don't have them in the states. All we have are asians, russions, few hispanics but nothing like colombianas. And in the states these girls ask for at least $500 for an hour. Top escort services. When I go down to Panama its a deal. Its hard to keep prices down. One time I met a colombiana at Veneto, and I was hungry. She was all business. I told her, before we go to my room, lets go grab a bite to eat. She said yes, but her friend was like no, don't waste your time, you should be making money. She ignored her friend and came with me to eat anyway. Thats alone should give you guys a good indication on how the women are like down in Panama.

Mfins love your Robotic comment haha

Snipps
03-02-13, 06:25
Nice to hear the pricing created a nice healthly discussion on fair prices. Each fellow will pay what he wants in the long run. I just don't pay more than $120 and have never had a problem in the last 3 years I've been going to Panama. Will be there this weekend and will get the ground truth, but I seriously doubt I will have any problem.

Stay horny my friendsYes Joey, have fun, I am jealous. Please report back, and have a great time in Panama.

Tbuss
03-03-13, 03:26
"The more guys that refuse to pay the $150 or $200 the better it is for all the other guys"

Please don't take offense Tbuss as I agree with the rest of your post but, which one of us is going to take the first bullet for the team and go to Panama and stick to our guns of not paying the $150. 00. Anyone, anyone. Not I. Sorry fellow Mongers but, I can not ruin my trip just to play hard ball for the rest of you.No offense Mfins, I wasn't telling anyone what to do, more just stating a fact. The girls have organized and are trying to instill their own price points, if a large enough number of guys give into $150 without argument, they will go to $200, as some of them are already starting to do. Knowing the local economics makes this a little hard for me to swallow personally (in Colombia, the same girl will cost around $60-$70, and it takes a doctor almost 3 days to earn that) but to each his own.

I've been hitting these countries for about 25 years now and have watched the girls become steadily more "businesslike" as the number of guys coming down willing to pay whatever was asked (and sometimes tip on top of that) has increased. This topic has been talked to death on numerous boards and I've given up trying to stem the tide- instead I go to locals places in Panama with pretty girls that not too many gringos find their way to and try to hit Latin American cities which also have a lack of gringo presence.

You69Me
03-03-13, 05:30
A Colombian beauty on "badoo"

Quoted me U$600- for full service.

She wrote me this was a good deal.

Others would charge 1'000 euros for just saying "hello"

"badoo" has become a pros site with mostly fake entries.



No offense Mfins, I wasn't telling anyone what to do, more just stating a fact. The girls have organized and are trying to instill their own price points, if a large enough number of guys give into $150 without argument, they will go to $200, as some of them are already starting to do. Knowing the local economics makes this a little hard for me to swallow personally (in Colombia, the same girl will cost around $60-$70, and it takes a doctor almost 3 days to earn that) but to each his own.

I've been hitting these countries for about 25 years now and have watched the girls become steadily more "businesslike" as the number of guys coming down willing to pay whatever was asked (and sometimes tip on top of that) has increased. This topic has been talked to death on numerous boards and I've given up trying to stem the tide- instead I go to locals places in Panama with pretty girls that not too many gringos find their way to and try to hit Latin American cities which also have a lack of gringo presence.

Joey Smith
03-03-13, 21:31
Yes Joey, have fun, I am jealous. Please report back, and have a great time in Panama.Hit all the spots last nite. Veneto, Habamos why ASCHE. Best selection was at Habamos. Mostly a Colombian crowd with girls asking for $125. $200. Enjoyed the scene at Habamos why Veneto. Hit ASCHE for the first time at around 2am. Too many people, too dark and couldn't tell the working girls from the regular girls. Maybe I hit it too late. But hard to size up any chica let alone walk around the club.

Snipps
03-04-13, 20:55
Yes, Asche is hard to tell, your local cab driver can help you determine that. I once went to ASCHE with my cabby and he spotted all of them out for me. How was the Veneto? Was is packed? A lot of chicas? Thanks

Tbuss
03-05-13, 01:05
Pretty much all the girls at Ashe are some kind of pro- assume they all are and you'll seldom be wrong.

MiamiKevin
03-10-13, 01:53
Yes, Asche is hard to tell, your local cab driver can help you determine that. I once went to ASCHE with my cabby and he spotted all of them out for me. How was the Veneto? Was is packed? A lot of chicas? ThanksFYI to all: as of about 3 wks ago (was there President's Day wkend) Veneto charges a $20 entry fee to all Colombian girls, so you can be sure you'll hear how many nights of fees with "no sales" that she's paid as she tries to upsell you. This has also pushed some of the Veneto regulars over to Habanos, AND pushed up their takehome price of course. On the other hand, previous visitors will remember the old Doll House in same lower arcade as Oasis (next to Veneto) , its being renovated and should soon be open under new ownership. Will check as to status and takeout fees when I return on 18 April. Manolo's across the street also still worth a walkthrough in primetime.

Happy punting

Orgasmico
03-10-13, 11:51
so you can be sure you'll hear how many nights of fees with "no sales" that she's paid as she tries to upsell you.

Happy puntingOr she can go home again empty handed after paying the $20 and should try to make something?

Mfins
03-12-13, 03:02
FYI to all: as of about 3 wks ago (was there President's Day wkend) Veneto charges a $20 entry fee to all Colombian girls, so you can be sure you'll hear how many nights of fees with "no sales" that she's paid as she tries to upsell you. This has also pushed some of the Veneto regulars over to Habanos, AND pushed up their takehome price of course. On the other hand, previous visitors will remember the old Doll House in same lower arcade as Oasis (next to Veneto) , its being renovated and should soon be open under new ownership. Will check as to status and takeout fees when I return on 18 April. Manolo's across the street also still worth a walkthrough in primetime.

Happy puntingGarbage- Just as I think Panama is making a nice come back they pull this crap. Doesn't Veneto realize that 90% of the guys at the casino bar are only there and spending money because the girls are also there.

When I was there they didn't even have there show performing on the stage or the dancers in the carnival outfits.

Tbuss
03-12-13, 06:09
Garbage- Just as I think Panama is making a nice come back they pull this crap. Doesn't Veneto realize that 90% of the guys at the casino bar are only there and spending money because the girls are also there.

When I was there they didn't even have there show performing on the stage or the dancers in the carnival outfits.Not too big of a deal, plenty of girls still go in. Also, a smart operator can stand outside and pick out what he wants before they go in and have to pay the cover charge.

Werspe
03-12-13, 13:04
Is the Le Meridien Hotel in Panama City chica friendly? I will be with colleagues and we will be partying there. I don't want the girls to be turned away.

Thanks

MiamiKevin
03-13-13, 02:42
Not too big of a deal, plenty of girls still go in. Also, a smart operator can stand outside and pick out what he wants before they go in and have to pay the cover charge.I believe I did mention there are outside options (eg Manolo's) , my point was, inside or out, you hear the same complaint now about they have to make up (from you) for all the $ they've already spent on wasted entry fees. One reason why, as you pointed out, a $100 good time now has a $150 starting offer, and is pushing $200.

Tbuss
03-13-13, 08:16
I believe I did mention there are outside options (eg Manolo's) , my point was, inside or out, you hear the same complaint now about they have to make up (from you) for all the $ they've already spent on wasted entry fees. One reason why, as you pointed out, a $100 good time now has a $150 starting offer, and is pushing $200.If that's the case, when they started complaining about how many fees they paid in the past, I would tell them to go with my now before going in for $100 and then their next 5 nights entry would be paid for. There are currently a lot more girls than there are clients, it's a buyers market for anyone with even a little bit of game.

Love Handler
03-15-13, 22:59
If that's the case, when they started complaining about how many fees they paid in the past, I would tell them to go with my now before going in for $100 and then their next 5 nights entry would be paid for. There are currently a lot more girls than there are clients, it's a buyers market for anyone with even a little bit of game.Why has the price gone up to $150 or $200? Only last year you could offer $80 and agree a tip of $20 for good service, including BBBJ DFK etc, although not all would partake the offer. The majority of these Colombian girls would make MUCH LESS in Colombia and $100 is more than a weeks wage. When negotitaing one should point out they will make a loss if no one agrees to pay their ridicolus prices and will return home to their families with diddly squat. One can generally fuck the same girls in Bogota for around 30, 000-80, 000 COP.

For $150 I would expect CIM to be a starting point for negotitions and with perhaps anal included also.

Where did these Las Vegas prices come from? We must resist!

MiamiKevin
03-16-13, 04:52
Why has the price gone up to $150 or $200? Only last year you could offer $80 and agree a tip of $20 for good service, including BBBJ DFK etc, although not all would partake the offer. The majority of these Colombian girls would make MUCH LESS in Colombia and $100 is more than a weeks wage. When negotitaing one should point out they will make a loss if no one agrees to pay their ridicolus prices and will return home to their families with diddly squat. One can generally fuck the same girls in Bogota for around 30, 000-80, 000 COP.

For $150 I would expect CIM to be a starting point for negotitions and with perhaps anal included also.

Where did these Las Vegas prices come from? We must resist!Price also depends on the quality of girl you're looking for, AND what you want in her attitude once you agree to hookup (all business vs. A little mutual generosity) , BTW that includes getting her phone / e-mail for future trips. Of the four girls (all dropdeads) that I got down to talking $ with at Habanos, their starting offer usually was $200 / hr, sometimes $250 for 2 hrs. Each time, we agreed on less $ for a little less time, but never any hesitation about BBBJ, anal etc, and I know how to contact any or all of them next trip, for a beach date or a night out, and that guaranteed happy ending. You choose what you want, but I consider a young gorgeous girl who's happy to be on my arm & in my bed as an investment (within reason) well worth making anytime. What say you?

Joey Smith
03-16-13, 12:41
FYI to all: as of about 3 wks ago (was there President's Day wkend) Veneto charges a $20 entry fee to all Colombian girls, so you can be sure you'll hear how many nights of fees with "no sales" that she's paid as she tries to upsell you. This has also pushed some of the Veneto regulars over to Habanos, AND pushed up their takehome price of course. On the other hand, previous visitors will remember the old Doll House in same lower arcade as Oasis (next to Veneto) , its being renovated and should soon be open under new ownership. Will check as to status and takeout fees when I return on 18 April. Manolo's across the street also still worth a walkthrough in primetime.

Happy puntingI am throwing the BS flag on this $20 entry fee for the ladies. I was just at the Veneto last weekend and didn't see or hear this new requirement for the girls. You were lied too.

Tbuss
03-17-13, 00:09
Why has the price gone up to $150 or $200? Only last year you could offer $80 and agree a tip of $20 for good service, including BBBJ DFK etc, although not all would partake the offer. The majority of these Colombian girls would make MUCH LESS in Colombia and $100 is more than a weeks wage. When negotitaing one should point out they will make a loss if no one agrees to pay their ridicolus prices and will return home to their families with diddly squat. One can generally fuck the same girls in Bogota for around 30, 000-80, 000 COP.

For $150 I would expect CIM to be a starting point for negotitions and with perhaps anal included also.

Where did these Las Vegas prices come from? We must resist!The girls have formed a kind of consortium and try to maintain the price point as best they can. They will pressure new girls and girls charging less to maintain the higher prices. That's one side of the problem, the other side is that there are a lot of guys who gleefully pay whatever is asked and many others still who proudly argue that it's their right to pay whatever they want and that it doesn't impact anyone else. They are correct on the first part but very wrong on the 2nd part. Until a much larger group of guys starts to refuse to pay the outrageous rates the girls are asking, they will confidently ask for it and many will refuse to go for less.

For years the real price-point for a very pretty girl was $100- they are now trying to re-establish that at $150. Many are asking for $200 and then "settling" for $150 with a huff, like they are doing a favor. Always a shame to see the gringo's turn these girls into just the type of girls they are leaving the states to avoid but it's pretty inevitable.

Just have to go to where the large numbers of overpaying, tipping guys don't go yet.

MiamiKevin
03-17-13, 04:21
I am throwing the BS flag on this $20 entry fee for the ladies. I was just at the Veneto last weekend and didn't see or hear this new requirement for the girls. You were lied too.First thought in my mind, Joey, so I checked with not one but two of the guys who screen the girls at the escalator, it's $20 and it's only charged to Colombian girls, not to any guys or any Panamanian women.

Tom Power
03-17-13, 16:50
Hi All,

I'm visiting Panama city next week but I'm staying at the decameron up the coast. I'm renting a car and planning on making a few mongering visits to town.

Can anyone give a direction or intersection for where exactly los Arcos or any other push button is located? I'm looking for one that's on the west side of town (closer to my way back to decameron not on the other side like the mistica area where most are) I remember someone here mentioning los arcos as being close to venetto. I'm hoping to avoid having to ask anyone in Panama how to get there I've driven around latin countries before nobody knows nothing.

Thanks,

Remember, we're all in this together.

Tom Power

Tbuss
03-17-13, 19:22
Hi All,

I'm visiting Panama city next week but I'm staying at the decameron up the coast. I'm renting a car and planning on making a few mongering visits to town.

Can anyone give a direction or intersection for where exactly los Arcos or any other push button is located? I'm looking for one that's on the west side of town (closer to my way back to decameron not on the other side like the mistica area where most are) I remember someone here mentioning los arcos as being close to venetto. I'm hoping to avoid having to ask anyone in Panama how to get there I've driven around latin countries before nobody knows nothing.

Thanks,

Remember, we're all in this together.

Tom PowerThe link below should bring up a pretty good map showing it's location.

http://www.viajeros.com/alojamiento/hoteles/residencial-los-arcos-panama:fotos_y_mapa

Mfins
03-19-13, 06:04
If that's the case, when they started complaining about how many fees they paid in the past, I would tell them to go with my now before going in for $100 and then their next 5 nights entry would be paid for. There are currently a lot more girls than there are clients, it's a buyers market for anyone with even a little bit of game.Agreed, More supply than demand at the moment however the top 10% was leaving with clients multiple times in a night so they are not hurting. Its the other 90% that is having to fight for clients.

Mfins
03-19-13, 06:11
The girls have formed a kind of consortium and try to maintain the price point as best they can. They will pressure new girls and girls charging less to maintain the higher prices. That's one side of the problem, the other side is that there are a lot of guys who gleefully pay whatever is asked and many others still who proudly argue that it's their right to pay whatever they want and that it doesn't impact anyone else. They are correct on the first part but very wrong on the 2nd part. Until a much larger group of guys starts to refuse to pay the outrageous rates the girls are asking, they will confidently ask for it and many will refuse to go for less.

For years the real price-point for a very pretty girl was $100- they are now trying to re-establish that at $150. Many are asking for $200 and then "settling" for $150 with a huff, like they are doing a favor. Always a shame to see the gringo's turn these girls into just the type of girls they are leaving the states to avoid but it's pretty inevitable.

Just have to go to where the large numbers of overpaying, tipping guys don't go yet.I remember about 3 years ago or so, in November one of my regulars told me "after the 1st of the year the price is going up from $150 to $200. 00 We had a meeting and we all agreed". I was laughing so hard. I thought it was hilarious. Like they had formed a puta union or something. Of course that price point didn't last. I am fairly confident the 8+'s are going for $150. 00 Most start at $200 but $150 is the price point. If someone is paying $100 or $80 they are getting something less than a 5.

Joey Smith
03-19-13, 23:27
First thought in my mind, Joey, so I checked with not one but two of the guys who screen the girls at the escalator, it's $20 and it's only charged to Colombian girls, not to any guys or any Panamanian women.Visiting again this weekend so I'll investigate also. Hard to believe they would just charge the Colombians an extra $20. Been a semi-regular at Veneto over the years and have never seen this. The Veneto still draws a big crowd on the weekends. Can't believe their profit has dropped.

Tbuss
03-20-13, 08:32
I remember about 3 years ago or so, in November one of my regulars told me "after the 1st of the year the price is going up from $150 to $200. 00 We had a meeting and we all agreed". I was laughing so hard. I thought it was hilarious. Like they had formed a puta union or something. Of course that price point didn't last. I am fairly confident the 8+'s are going for $150. 00 Most start at $200 but $150 is the price point. If someone is paying $100 or $80 they are getting something less than a 5.That's pretty much exactly what they did- formed a union, and it's been pretty effective. There is no reason on earth any girl in Panama should be getting more than $100. Only because enough guys pay the outrageous figures they ask for is the price what it is. In Colombia you can get the hottest girl around for $60-$70, go to cities the "over-payers" haven't found yet and it's less than $40 for a smoking hot girl. There are even some low-end local places in Panama where you can get the occasion hot girl for $60 an hour. Almost all of 8's and higher will go for $100 if you approach them the right way.

Helpmann
03-20-13, 10:41
I remember about 3 years ago or so, in November one of my regulars told me "after the 1st of the year the price is going up from $150 to $200. 00 We had a meeting and we all agreed". I was laughing so hard. I thought it was hilarious. Like they had formed a puta union or something.Sounds like OPEC! lol...

I wouldn't worry. I am sure there are plenty of girls, who are trying to cheat the cartel by secretly lowering their price.

-Helpmann :)

Joey Smith
03-21-13, 11:24
Anyone know if Torre Alba hotel across the street from Veneto is still chica friendly.

Tbuss
03-21-13, 23:00
Anyone know if Torre Alba hotel across the street from Veneto is still chica friendly.Yes, it is.

ThatGuy865
03-23-13, 16:19
I have been to the DR (sosua) and Medellin was trying to decide if Panama would be my next move. Can someone tell me how they compare. How the women treat you in Panama. Are they as open to older men. Also I love a good BBBJ. Are they common there or is CBJ more the norm is there a such thing as GFE or are they hard core like casa's in Medellin for the most part.

HuedopBob
03-23-13, 16:50
Does anyone know where to find some quality talent other than the usual suspects in the city? I find the talent in these places hit or miss and would prefer to find someone and take her to a private place.

Werspe
03-25-13, 13:43
Hi there,

I will be in Panama City next week and looking for some advice. I will be with clients and need to "entertain them". They want girls for a full day and evening. This includes partying at our hotel suite, nice dinner, etc.

These girls need to be top end (looks and service) and I am willing to pay for it.

Do you recommend I use an escort service or is there some other ways to procure these women? I need some help!

I appreciate the advice and promise to report back after the trip.

MiamiKevin
03-26-13, 11:37
Anyone know if Torre Alba hotel across the street from Veneto is still chica friendly.Never a problem with management or front desk at Torre, after they xerox her passport. $15 TLN charge however. Joey, any update on the $20 Colombiana surcharge at Veneto, will be there in 3 wks.

MiamiKevin
03-26-13, 12:03
Hi there,

I will be in Panama City next week and looking for some advice. I will be with clients and need to "entertain them". They want girls for a full day and evening. This includes partying at our hotel suite, nice dinner, etc.

These girls need to be top end (looks and service) and I am willing to pay for it.

Do you recommend I use an escort service or is there some other ways to procure these women? I need some help!

I appreciate the advice and promise to report back after the trip.IMHO best Panama escort services (quality and choice) are El Complaciente and Girl Panama. But if $'s no object, why not take your guests to Le Palace early in the evening, selection's always first rate, they can see & get to know the girls, then take their choice, you pay the takeout for each, and you're on your way. BTW, are you sure your hotel's chica-friendly? Even if mgmt said yes on previous trips, rules can change, so best to check ahead. Fellow posters here have best advice if you share the name.

Happy hunting

Mfins
03-27-13, 06:22
IMHO best Panama escort services (quality and choice) are El Complaciente and Girl Panama. But if $'s no object, why not take your guests to Le Palace early in the evening, selection's always first rate, they can see & get to know the girls, then take their choice, you pay the takeout for each, and you're on your way. BTW, are you sure your hotel's chica-friendly? Even if mgmt said yes on previous trips, rules can change, so best to check ahead. Fellow posters here have best advice if you share the name.

Happy huntingDITTO to Miamikevin- If money Truly is no object go to Le palace and let loose. You can probably secure an all day and night for $500. 00 or maybe $800-$1000 for 24 hours if you go through Management. I am not saying this price is the norm but, if you don't want to haggle, make arrangements to meet after close et and you got money to burn then Le Palace is your place for top of the line talent.

However, Panama is very user friendly. I am sure taking your clients to Veneto and Habanas will be fine. Get bottle service at Veneto and call some girls over to the table, Your clients will enjoy the view and have fun. Le Palace Veneto, Habanos and Ache are all very close. You won't have any trouble finding them.

Werspe
03-27-13, 09:18
Thanks! I am staying at the Le Meridien hotel. Is this chica-friendly?


DITTO to Miamikevin- If money Truly is no object go to Le palace and let loose. You can probably secure an all day and night for $500. 00 or maybe $800-$1000 for 24 hours if you go through Management. I am not saying this price is the norm but, if you don't want to haggle, make arrangements to meet after close et and you got money to burn then Le Palace is your place for top of the line talent.

However, Panama is very user friendly. I am sure taking your clients to Veneto and Habanas will be fine. Get bottle service at Veneto and call some girls over to the table, Your clients will enjoy the view and have fun. Le Palace Veneto, Habanos and Ache are all very close. You won't have any trouble finding them.

Spisol
03-28-13, 00:06
I have been to Panama City in 2007 and 2008, stayed at the Radisson and Veneto. Planning on being there in a few weeks and am trying to decide where to stay the Veneto or Manrey. Manrey looks nice but not sure their guest policies. Has anyone stayed there?

Thanks for your help, my trip is 3 nights in CTG and 2 in PTY.

TheDude7
03-28-13, 02:59
I'm planning to visit Panama City with my girlfriend, with the intent to invite another female to join use. (It is my birthday!). Where can we visit to located a friendly companion?

Is the Waldorf Astoria guest friendly?

TheDude7
03-28-13, 03:07
I'm planning to visit Panama City with my girlfriend with the intend to invite a woman to join us. What is the best locations to find our companions?

Is the Waldorf Astoria guest friendly?

TheDude7
03-28-13, 17:04
I'm planning on staying at the Waldorf Astoria, and bringing a girlfriend.

Is this hotel guest friendly?

Spisol
03-28-13, 17:51
I have stayed at both the Radisson and the Veneto in the past visits to PTY. Has anyone had good / bad experience with the Manrey. I am going to be there in a few weeks and am trying to decide between the Manrey and the Veneto. Same cost for a room.

Thanks for your help.

Below is a picture form my last trip.

Pana Nyc
03-29-13, 11:19
Fellas have any of you stayed at the Panama Marriott and is it chica friendly? I have points to burn so I was looking to book the hotel for 2, but I do not plan on having over night guests only ST. If any you who have stayed there let me know if I'm wasting my time booking this hotel, thanks.

Member #4353
03-29-13, 17:27
My experience is that Marriott is hit or miss depending on security on duty. I would recommend you stay at a different hotel that is chica friendly.


Fellas have any of you stayed at the Panama Marriott and is it chica friendly? I have points to burn so I was looking to book the hotel for 2, but I do not plan on having over night guests only ST. If any you who have stayed there let me know if I'm wasting my time booking this hotel, thanks.

MiamiKevin
03-29-13, 20:29
My experience is that Marriott is hit or miss depending on security on duty. I would recommend you stay at a different hotel that is chica friendly.Based on my experience, and what's been shared in the past by other punters:

Veneto (one of the Wyndham hotels) and Torres de Alba (apt-hotel, where I always stay) : never a problem with having guests.

Las Vegas (diagonal corner from Veneto) : no problem here either.

Marriott (across the street from Habanos) , el Panama (up the hill behind Veneto) and Riu Continental: not allowed.

Radisson, Manrey, Waldorf, Meridien: not familiar with their policies.

My firsthand knowledge is limited, since I've kept to the first two, they're both good value for $, right on top of the Veneto casino action, and I don't have to ask (or guess) beforehand. All you veteran posters, please correct or add, as I'd like to know of a few extra options myself (Hard Rock Hotel for example.)

Rippa
03-30-13, 06:21
Fellas have any of you stayed at the Panama Marriott and is it chica friendly? I have points to burn so I was looking to book the hotel for 2, but I do not plan on having over night guests only ST. If any you who have stayed there let me know if I'm wasting my time booking this hotel, thanks.Can personally verify the Marriott across from Habanos is NOT GF. Lots of security and they are not shy about stopping you with your 'Lady of Choice' right at the front door. Did have a buddy sneak one into the hotel through the adjoining casino entrance, though. But I'm sure they have cameras and what-not watching all possible points of access.

Suggest you save your points, take up the recommendations from some of the other punters here and seek accommodations elsewhere. It's just not worth the hassle.

Have fun in PTY.

Joey Smith
03-30-13, 13:32
Never a problem with management or front desk at Torre, after they xerox her passport. $15 TLN charge however. Joey, any update on the $20 Colombiana surcharge at Veneto, will be there in 3 wks.Torre de Alba is definitely chica friendly. The $20 daily fee (Colombians) for the chicas to work at the Veneto is true.

Lots of excellent choices at Veneto & Habamos. Both places were over flowing with mujers. Expect to negotiate all will start at $200. Bit easily come down to $150. Paid $120 for 3 ladies.

Pana Nyc
03-31-13, 10:09
What was the rates did the chicas charge?


I was recently in Panama on a matter of business, I stayed at the Hotel Miramar good care and service, was coupled with a colleague and look online and find an escort agency with a variety of girls, we agreed that the service was not for all the weekend, where we danced, dined and spent the night with the girls, really was not very expensive.

I have turned the page on something if it helps.

http://angelicaescortvip.com/eng/escorts.html

Pana Nyc
03-31-13, 10:11
Thanks very much for the heads up I still might stay there I will just do girls in ST motels or onsite casas.


Can personally verify the Marriott across from Habanos is NOT GF. Lots of security and they are not shy about stopping you with your 'Lady of Choice' right at the front door. Did have a buddy sneak one into the hotel through the adjoining casino entrance, though. But I'm sure they have cameras and what-not watching all possible points of access.

Suggest you save your points, take up the recommendations from some of the other punters here and seek accommodations elsewhere. It's just not worth the hassle.

Have fun in PTY.

Tbuss
03-31-13, 15:38
Lots of excellent choices at Veneto & Habamos. Both places were over flowing with mujers. Expect to negotiate all will start at $200. Bit easily come down to $150. Paid $120 for 3 ladies.Wow, I'm very sorry to hear this, it seems the chicas are having success moving the price-point off of $100.

PapaMac
04-01-13, 04:58
Yes it's true, the Colombianas are charged $20 to enter Veneto, $30 on Friday and Saturday. And even $30 on good Friday, when the casino didn't open until 12:01am. The chairs have been removed from the main bar in the casino, which is where I used to spend the day. Not too many girls this weekend, most likely because it's easter. But still the hottest spot in the city IMHO.

Took two trips to Bocaterena one on Saturday around 2pm and Easter Sunday around noon. Saturday was packed, wall to wall people. Definitely a hot spot, through small talk, came to the conclusion that the girls hang out here in the day and then move on to the more profitable places (via espana, calle uraguay) at night. As has been mentioned here before, it's the same girls, just cheaper prices. Sunday was less crowded, was actually fun. $1. 50 for beer, $1. 50 for shots, lady drinks $5. 00, with her getting back $2, from what I could tell.

Going rate seemed to be $20, $5 to the house, rest to the girl, with two condoms included. The guy came banging on the door after what seemed like 10 minutes, didn't wear my watch, because it's not that kind of place. So each time I paid another $20. As mentioned before, the rooms are very basic. A bed, then sink and toilet, turned into a shower. But your not there to spend the night. All varieties of girls, from Nicaraguans to Colombians to Dominicans. And everywhere in between.

I experienced Bocaterna during the day, and it seemed reasonably safe. If you don't speak Spanish, It'd be a good idea to take someone who does (taxi driver).

RiceRocket99
04-02-13, 03:47
I checked out both Caribbean Center (all Panamanians) and Golden Fingers (all Colombians). Both are a few doors down from each other and across from the Rey supermarket in El Dorado.

CARIBBEAN CENTER:

I went to CC first and a girl greeted me at the door and I was shown a presentation of 5 girls and all were 6 or below, maybe one 7. I got a $3 beer and just chatted with a couple girls. I didn't feel the vibes, but when I was told it's $60 an hr, it's the best price around (I've been spoiled after being in San Salvador last week). Golden Fingers was closed, and I thought about Golden Time, but they charge $115 an hr and the girl selection wasn't too impressive, even though it seemed everyone had ass for days.

I talked up this girl who had the best looks and body IMO. She had a nice ass, almost all Panamanians have big ol asses. Bought her a $5 drink and asked if she offered BBBJ and to my surprise, she said yeah. Asked if she gives a nice massage, she said yeah. I hope both are true.

Got the hour and went up the room that has a sink and shower. She started off with massage, which was decent, but obviously not professional. Then went to kiss her, first she hesitated, but I slowly insisted and she let me have it. I wanted more tongue, but that's ok. She then started the BBBJ, not bad, but not great. On top of me she climbed, but I had to hit that from behind since she has a toned apple bottom ass. Kept it at doggie and just had to slap that ass a bunch of times.

Those butt slaps reverberated off the walls! I finally finished at that position. Cleaned and dressed up. I wouldn't mind going back, but they need a better selection if I was to repeat.

GOLDEN FINGERS:

Showed up here the following day and an older mama greeted me at the door and asked if I came here on a taxi. I said no, and she looked out to make sure. I was greeted with 6 girls, all much better than Caribbean Center, all Colombianas with fine ass and body. All are 7 or below, maybe couple 8s. I asked about price, she said $70 for half and $95 for hr. I told her it's cheaper at CC almost right next door. She didn't budge. I thought about heading out, but I had to partake with this dark skinned girl 25 yr old named Cali, who wears #17. She had one fine ass. I love tits too, but with that ass, I had to take that upstairs. She had decent tits too, natural set of B's.

I went for the half hr thinking I'm going straight down to business, or should I say pleasure. She did ask if I wanted a quick massage, which I obliged. Another weak massage session, but I'm not complaining, lasted a few mins. Then the action started.

She has 2 kids, but she had one tight pussy. Started with CG. That ass was going up and down, down and up. Felt very good. I attempted to kiss her, but she brushed me away. Not a big deal, I'll use my charm. Slowly, she allowed me to kiss her and even have some tongue action. Felt super hot!

Switched to doggie and that ass called for some slapping. This ass was really nice and firm. I closed up from behind her and just pounded away. We were both sweating even though AC was on, but it was some intimate hot sex! Finished real good and she showered up and out the door I went as the phone ran, used up my time wisely!

I plan to hit up Colon, so I'll write that on the forum!

BTW: It's been a couple years since my last visit to Panama, is it me or have the prices all gone UP! Not just for pussy, but everything from food to transportation to leisure activities. Panama is becoming less and less affordable compared to a few years ago. Don't get me wrong, it's still cheaper than the USA and girls are much hotter, but damn. My wallet is getting drained!

RiceRocket99
04-04-13, 05:32
I checked out Habanos last night around midnight and it was popping. There were at least 35 or more girls roaming around, sitting down, or standing up. Range was 3's to even couple near 10's. I was there for about an hour, some drifted off and some newbies would drop in as well. I saw a 9/9. 5, one of the hottest chicks there, who also spoke pretty decent English, but I can speak Spanish, so not a problem. Started off fine, but may be it wasn't meant to be.

Chatted up a bit, she's 24 from Medellin with a toned complexion and a very pretty face, basically a victoria's secret angel IMO. I've been to Panama almost a dozen times, so I can negotiate and close a deal. Of course, she starts off at $200, I say $100, which she instantly laughs at. Says 'no, impossible'. Goes to $150 with no problem, but wouldn't budge below that. As beautiful as she was, I was willing to pay that only if some bases were covered. She was fine with BBBJ, DFK, so no problem there. I even asked if it was cool if I took pictures of her clothed and naked, she was fine with that. So we had a deal, even shook on it. But I came with a friend and he went to gamble in the Royal Casino, so I told her to wait for me as I go get him (he didn't have a phone).

I wasn't out for more than 3 minutes, and when I came back, she was gone! I looked around, even asked the chicas, one was funny, said, she's gone, but I'm here, ready and available. I went to use the bathroom and on my way out, I spotted her with another dude. I simply asked her, are you busy? She said, yes. So I said screw it, I left the place. Not that I care much, but it's just principle. I guess some girls are all about the money. I know girls that are about the money, but also are honest at the same time.

I decided to check out Grutal Azul. Paid $2 cover. It's been 2 years since I went back and they sorta did a slight facial lift to the place. It looks cleaner and somewhat classier, but still a middle end brothel / bar at best. Saw about 8 girls and half were occupied, so no luck there. Hung out for a beer and left. Forgot to ask about pricing, but I believe it was $20 for 15 mins.

I decided to go check out Veneto. I parked in the nearby Crowne Plaza hotel and walked into Veneto. Lots of chicas. Saw a couple that were in Habanos earlier. Quality was comparable to Habanos. Saw a 8. 5/9 colombiana, small, slender, nice round ass and full set of tits. Most likely silicone, but I didn't care. Got her a drink and sat at the table and had a nice conversation. Her name is Christina and only been to Panama for 3 weeks. Asked for pricing, told her to give me a fair number (haha).

She offered $150, I countered with $120, which she was fine with. But then I had to cover some bases. Asked about BBBJ, she said, no. Bummer. Asked about DFK, she said, yes. Cool. Then asked about photos, she said, no. I wanted photos! Haha. She said photos, yes, but $150. I'm like damn. Almost had it. She had a bubbly personality and it was almost 3am, so I didn't want to go find another girl and start the whole process over again.

I agreed with the $150. She was smoking hot as I held her hands and took her to my car. Overall, it was an OK session at best.

The GOOD: She allowed DFK and used some good tongue, had her in multiple positions, moans sounded genuine (haha) , hotass body for sure! Let me come on her tits.

The BAD: As we were into it for about 15 mins, she asked me,"Finish?". I'm like, WTF. Hell, no I'm not finished. Not even close. That kinda killed my mood. I wanted to be nice and said, no, not yet. We continued and I could tell she just wanted me to be done quick.

I will not let her have that. As fine as she was in that solid hot body of hers, once my mood is killed, it can take me a very long time to finish. Haha. I can tell she was a bit frustrated, but I didn't care. More time for me to tap that ass of hers.

Finally, I decided to land my load on her nice set of probably fake DD's in which she said, 'mucho leche'. Hell yeah!

Miami Bob
04-08-13, 00:28
Thinking of a long 4-5 day weekend. I can dress for and deal with Miami summers. Panama-not sure? Please comment?

Maybe Medellin is the way to go.

Thanks,

Bob

Dickhead
04-08-13, 02:19
Extremely hot, humid and uncomfortable year round. Was there in June last year. 96-98 degrees with 99. 9% humidity. Only place hotter around there is David. Very little temperature variation from month to month in Central America, only variation in the precipitation.

MiamiKevin
04-08-13, 03:37
Thinking of a long 4-5 day weekend. I can dress for and deal with Miami summers. Panama-not sure? Please comment?

Maybe Medellin is the way to go.

Thanks,

BobBob: dry season is just ending, typically runs from early December (prime chica time as they want to earn Christmas $) to mid- to end of April. Tropical sauna all other months, with rain you can set your watch to about 1-2p each afternoon. To all posters: any news as to 1) opening of club at former Moulin Rouge location, in the lower level arcade next to Oasis? And 2) new suggestions for chica-friendly hotels? [with particular interest in how closely security's watching at the Hard Rock]

Tbuss
04-08-13, 03:43
Thinking of a long 4-5 day weekend. I can dress for and deal with Miami summers. Panama-not sure? Please comment?

Maybe Medellin is the way to go.

Thanks,

BobFor most people temperature and humidity is a non-issue, everyplace is air-conditioned and there is a swimming pool in pretty much every hotel and apartment complex. The balmy tropical nights are very pleasant.

Dickhead
04-08-13, 06:11
If temperature and humidity are a non-issue for you in Panamá City then I commend you. If you want to spend all day every day inside then fine. Balmy tropical breezes at night? It is past midnight now and well over 80 F with 90% humidity. High today was 96 and you will just sweat continuously. Now, that can be offset with beer. But it is hot. WTF would you expect? It is sea level near the equator. I would never live there just based on the year round temperature, let alone the humidity. Many taxis are not air conditioned and others do stupid shit like turn on the AC then drive with the windows open. The bus station is hot as hell, just ungodly, until you buy a ticket and then can enter an enclosed air conditioned area. And, it is hot by 9 or 10 AM.

Those are just facts, not value judgements. Really, it is just Miami plus five or six degrees. I wouldn't go to Miami in June or July either. Why would you? Now Bobby, if you have not been to either Medellin or PC you should go to Medellin, for sure. Medellin has very nice weather all year round. Some rain, yes, but it is of the refreshing variety. Neither country has good food. Both are full of Colombian hookers. Shit for a short trip maybe go with the cheaper airfare if you are just going to monger for a few days.

Miami Bob
04-08-13, 06:42
Daily afternoon showers it is far more bearable. Your point is well taken.

Thanks and enjoy Colorado.

Bob

Tbuss
04-09-13, 04:01
If temperature and humidity are a non-issue for you in Panamá City then I commend you. If you want to spend all day every day inside then fine. Balmy tropical breezes at night? It is past midnight now and well over 80 F with 90% humidity. High today was 96 and you will just sweat continuously. Now, that can be offset with beer. But it is hot. WTF would you expect? It is sea level near the equator. I would never live there just based on the year round temperature, let alone the humidity. Many taxis are not air conditioned and others do stupid shit like turn on the AC then drive with the windows open. The bus station is hot as hell, just ungodly, until you buy a ticket and then can enter an enclosed air conditioned area. And, it is hot by 9 or 10 AM.

Those are just facts, not value judgements. Really, it is just Miami plus five or six degrees. I wouldn't go to Miami in June or July either. Why would you? Now Bobby, if you have not been to either Medellin or PC you should go to Medellin, for sure. Medellin has very nice weather all year round. Some rain, yes, but it is of the refreshing variety. Neither country has good food. Both are full of Colombian hookers. Shit for a short trip maybe go with the cheaper airfare if you are just going to monger for a few days.To each their own, I've been living in PTY for 8 years and love it, climate included. I've had close to a dozen friends move down as well and none of them have any issues with the climate either. The population of PTY is exploding, so apparently you are in the minority.

Who stays in all day?, sitting by the pool in the warm sun is refreshing and great, there are tons of taxis and it's not hard to screen to find one with A.C. Virtually every place you are going to go to is going to have A.C. as well.

If you think the food in PTY isn't good, then you are either tremendously misinformed or don't know the city very well. Looks like Frommers and New York Times disagree with you on this one as well.

http://www.frommers.com/destinations/panamacity/3751010028.html

http://travel.nytimes.com/2011/04/24/travel/24hours-panamacity.html?_r=0

Pretty hard to find bad food at any of the places on this site:

http://www.degustapanama.com/restaurantes/

Mfins
04-10-13, 05:45
If temperature and humidity are a non-issue for you in Panamá City then I commend you. If you want to spend all day every day inside then fine. Balmy tropical breezes at night? It is past midnight now and well over 80 F with 90% humidity. High today was 96 and you will just sweat continuously. Now, that can be offset with beer. But it is hot. WTF would you expect? It is sea level near the equator. I would never live there just based on the year round temperature, let alone the humidity. Many taxis are not air conditioned and others do stupid shit like turn on the AC then drive with the windows open. The bus station is hot as hell, just ungodly, until you buy a ticket and then can enter an enclosed air conditioned area. And, it is hot by 9 or 10 AM.

Those are just facts, not value judgements. Really, it is just Miami plus five or six degrees. I wouldn't go to Miami in June or July either. Why would you? Now Bobby, if you have not been to either Medellin or PC you should go to Medellin, for sure. Medellin has very nice weather all year round. Some rain, yes, but it is of the refreshing variety. Neither country has good food. Both are full of Colombian hookers. Shit for a short trip maybe go with the cheaper airfare if you are just going to monger for a few days.Dickhead I agree with you. PTY is Way too hot. I have lived in Florida my whole life. Miami and Orlando Panama has little breeze and the biggest problem is the Urban Heat Island Effect. Go outside the City aways away from the concrete and its not too bad, but all the new construction, the mass of car fumes and the concrete of the buildings roads et trapping in the day time heating it never really cools down unless it rains. I don't have scientific data but, I bet you in the last 10 years Downtown panamas' average temp has risen. With that being said if you are on Vacation for 5-7 days who cares. You will be by the pool, or inside with AC anyway. Just walking around after sunset in jeans and going out clothes is not fun. Take a taxi and tell him to crank the AC. Also, the food in Panama does suck so does the service. The main dish is bland Sancocho. Compared to the rest of Central America the food is very bland tasting, and the service has notoriously been terrible. However within the last few years there have been some high end restaurants open and Many of the fine dinning establishments and hotels have hired top chefs to train. So it has gotten better. Medellin is fun, the weather is almost perfect but I do think Panama has a better night life scene. Its more concentrated in a small area and there are bars (veneto, Ashe, Habanos) with independents. Medellin is more for the casas and Internet.

RiceRocket99
04-11-13, 06:22
Yes, PTY is hot and humid, even at night, but don't let that discourage you from checking out the country! But I do have to say with all the damn road construction, dead-locked traffic, and the continuous building of the up and coming subway system makes PTY a less desirable destination. And also the random and frequent number of checkpoints at night (no worries if you take taxi, unless you're with a chica and she can be asked to show documents). It seems to me the gov't is doing a bit of a crackdown on brothels as well since Colon is all shutdown and places like La Mayor and Bombaneros are closed. It's an election year next year, so may be things could change for the better!

I have to disagree with Mfins, there are a variety of great cuisine available in Panama. If you like seafood, you will love Panama! Amador Causeway has great restaurants and El Dorado offers various foods as well including authentic Chinese dishes. Local food is potato-heavy with patacones, frijoles, yuca, rice, and the ever present sancocho. The food culture has gotten better compared to years past.

BTW, after checking out Veneto, Ashe & Habanos last week. I've seen the same girls over and over again. Some girls stick to one location, most go from one to the other. I stick to Veneto because I can gamble and there's AC, but they overcharge. I asked a few girls and they all say they pay $20 to get in and $30 on weekends into Veneto. Passing that cost to the customers nonetheless. They get a damn ticket for their first entry and then free ins / outs after. I asked why they pay with the risk of getting nothing from it. Same answer 'All the foreigners / gringos know about Veneto", so that's why they pay and the casino knows that too.

I was at Ashe at 4am (closing time) last Saturday and a freaking tsumani of girls were chilling outside looking for some late night action. I saw couple girls arrive in a taxi and got swopped up in a few mins. I was too tired to partake, but the chica watching was cool.


Dickhead I agree with you. PTY is Way too hot. I have lived in Florida my whole life. Miami and Orlando Panama has little breeze and the biggest problem is the Urban Heat Island Effect. Go outside the City aways away from the concrete and its not too bad, but all the new construction, the mass of car fumes and the concrete of the buildings roads et trapping in the day time heating it never really cools down unless it rains. I don't have scientific data but, I bet you in the last 10 years Downtown panamas' average temp has risen. With that being said if you are on Vacation for 5-7 days who cares. You will be by the pool, or inside with AC anyway. Just walking around after sunset in jeans and going out clothes is not fun. Take a taxi and tell him to crank the AC. Also, the food in Panama does suck so does the service. The main dish is bland Sancocho. Compared to the rest of Central America the food is very bland tasting, and the service has notoriously been terrible. However within the last few years there have been some high end restaurants open and Many of the fine dinning establishments and hotels have hired top chefs to train. So it has gotten better. Medellin is fun, the weather is almost perfect but I do think Panama has a better night life scene. Its more concentrated in a small area and there are bars (veneto, Ashe, Habanos) with independents. Medellin is more for the casas and Internet.

Tbuss
04-11-13, 23:06
. and places like La Mayor and Bombaneros are closed.When did La Mayor close, that's a real shame.

RiceRocket99
04-11-13, 23:51
I checked out Bocatorena for the first time last week on a Thursday night, even though I've been to Panama many times before. I just wanted to see what all the fuss was about. Now I know why. Haha. I've read reports that once you get over the stench of the place and by pass the ugly chicas, there are some gems to be found. But the smell was just awful. 99. 9% locals. I couldn't freaking breath. So I tried to go next door to La Mayor (never been there either) and it's closed! I asked la policia and they mentioned something about permits, so go figure.


When did La Mayor close, that's a real shame.

Mfins
04-16-13, 05:10
Was in Panama spur of the moment again last weekend. I didn't see as many hotties as the last time. Saw mostly 3's 4's and 5's and out of the 100's only a couple 9's. We went to the Hard rock bar just for drinks and I saw two Model looking types sitting at the bar by themselves, they kept staring at me and smiling. I think they were High price and High class working girls. Two of the hottest women I have ever seen. They were very discrete and subtle but I am fairly certain they were working. Probably $500 for the night or more but would have been worth it. I was with my GF though. So no chance. Not saying the Hard Rock Hotel is the new go to spot for pay for play but, It was interesting to see two High class, High quality, High money girls, scouting out the Hardrock. I have never seen girls that hot anywhere in Panama and certainly not at Habanos or Veneto.

One of the funniest things is seeing the clown at Habanos do his cig. Trick. Truly hilarious.

Mfins
04-16-13, 05:17
Also, a couple more points.

Carrot, law is 4 am on Thurs Fri and Sat but, the hotel- casinos decide to shut it down at 3am. Not sure why or If that is the law. Habanos served till 4am same with Ashe et.

It was hot as a mofo this weekend. In the city it could not have gotten below 83 at night and was well over 95 during the day. High humidity and no wind.

Girls were $150. 00 I did not find anyone getting less.

There was a news reporter from Colombia who came up to Panama about 6 weeks ago or so, and secretly recorded negotiations with the girls. It was the national news channel in Colombia. He went back and did a whole story about colombian pros. Working in Panama. SHowed the girls faces et. The girls were extremely upset and nervous that there family would see them on tv back home as most of the gilrs hide what they do and don't tell there family. The nervousness and shock has worn off but, a lot of girls did go home. There was still a large number of girls out and about tho.

Dickhead
04-16-13, 06:36
There was a news reporter from Colombia who came up to Panama about 6 weeks ago or so, and secretly recorded negotiations with the girls. It was the national news channel in Colombia. He went back and did a whole story about colombian pros. Working in Panama. SHowed the girls faces et. The girls were extremely upset and nervous that there family would see them on tv back home as most of the gilrs hide what they do and don't tell there family.What an asshole. Can we take a life insurance policy out on this guy? I'm thinking he might not last too long back in Colombia.

Now, regarding food in Panamá and Colombia. Each has good restaurants, if you want to seek them out. I don't, so I judge by the median quality I find when eating at restaurants that I come across in the course of other activities. I am not a gourmet and I eat a wide variety of foods. So when I say neither of these countries has good food, I don't mean they don't have ANY good food; I mean the food overall is below average compared to such countries as Spain or México. Really, Perú may have the most imaginative and varied cuisine in Latin America but once you get south of Guatemala it gets pretty bland and starchy. I was a professional cook for eight years and so if you want to talk about quality in the restaurants as far as is the food fresh and so forth, both Panamá and Colombia use a lot of leftovers (think 'bandeja paisa') and that's not my preference. Some Latin American countries you can get good food in the bus stations. Panamá's are just nasty. Street food in Panamá rates low as well, as compared to most other Latin countries.

However, and importantly for the longer term monger, Panamá's grocery stores rate highly in quality and selection as compared to many other Latin countries. Maybe because the president owns a big % of one of the biggest chains? But more likely because of the way the distribution chain developed, more freely as opposed to some of their neighbors.

MiamiKevin
04-16-13, 12:00
Was in Panama spur of the moment again last weekend. I didn't see as many hotties as the last time. Saw mostly 3's 4's and 5's and out of the 100's only a couple 9's. We went to the Hard rock bar just for drinks and I saw two Model looking types sitting at the bar by themselves, they kept staring at me and smiling. I think they were High price and High class working girls. Two of the hottest women I have ever seen. They were very discrete and subtle but I am fairly certain they were working. Probably $500 for the night or more but would have been worth it. I was with my GF though. So no chance. Not saying the Hard Rock Hotel is the new go to spot for pay for play but, It was interesting to see two High class, High quality, High money girls, scouting out the Hardrock. I have never seen girls that hot anywhere in Panama and certainly not at Habanos or Veneto.

One of the funniest things is seeing the clown at Habanos do his cig. Trick. Truly hilarious.Mfins: did you conclude from seeing the chicas at the bar that the Hard Rock is chica-friendly for guests? Also wanted to hear from fellow punters if the former Moulin Rouge location (just down from Veneto, lower level arcade next to Oasis) is up & running again. They were remodeling under new name when I was there in mid-Feb.

Tp Horn
04-16-13, 21:21
Mfins: did you conclude from seeing the chicas at the bar that the Hard Rock is chica-friendly for guests?I know well a couple of attractive non-pro (seriously) colombianas that have been stopped from entering the Hard Rock.


There was a news reporter from Colombia who came up to Panama about 6 weeks ago or so, and secretly recorded negotiations with the girls. It was the national news channel in Colombia.Anybody got a link for that report?

Mfins
04-17-13, 02:45
I know well a couple of attractive non-pro (seriously) colombianas that have been stopped from entering the Hard Rock.

Anybody got a link for that report?My girlfriend and I stayed there the list trip and there are two very suspicious and big security guys at the main entrance and they more than once asked to see our room keys.

You can enter the second floor bar area via the connecting walkway from the Majestic casino and there was no guard there but, the place has employees everywhere and security everywhere. My guess is that is would not be chica friendly. However the Hotel and the rooms are phenomenal.

I would go back just to see if those two girls sitting at the corner of the bar are there on a regular basis. They were smoking hot. Gorgeous.

MiamiKevin
04-17-13, 19:25
My girlfriend and I stayed there the list trip and there are two very suspicious and big security guys at the main entrance and they more than once asked to see our room keys.

You can enter the second floor bar area via the connecting walkway from the Majestic casino and there was no guard there but, the place has employees everywhere and security everywhere. My guess is that is would not be chica friendly. However the Hotel and the rooms are phenomenal.

I would go back just to see if those two girls sitting at the corner of the bar are there on a regular basis. They were smoking hot. Gorgeous.If you're talking Elite / Le Palace quality, might be a real discovery, certainly preferable to paying a takeout fee on top of the $ for her company.

Tp Horn
04-17-13, 21:12
Anybody got a link for that report?I think I found it myself.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cTJ3Bi22L0o

Seems they went out of their way to conceal identities.

Joey Smith
04-18-13, 11:12
I think I found it myself.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cTJ3Bi22L0o

Seems they went out of their way to conceal identities.Lots of footage taken inside the Veneto Hotel. Recognized some of the ladies from my last trip. Easy to understand why some may be in hot water.

Snipps
04-19-13, 22:34
Lots of footage taken inside the Veneto Hotel. Recognized some of the ladies from my last trip. Easy to understand why some may be in hot water.WOWW you have to be kidding me with this. Do you think Veneto will keep on allowing this once they see this footage. Feel bad for this anchor LOL