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Magzzz
05-14-14, 12:18
I'm heading to PTY this weekend; staying at the Veneto. Hoping to meet up with a fellow monger for a beer. Drop me a PM.

AlwaysHorny 2
05-19-14, 19:42
Will be in Panama City Thursday. Open to meeting for a beer and scouting the talent.

TauTau
05-20-14, 03:36
Just returned from a very pleasant visit to Panama City. My employer put me up at a 4-star within walking distance from the Ventio.

I visited the casino briefly one weekday early evening. There were a couple dozen ladies there, some very pretty and some so-so.

I visited again Friday night. There were dozens of ladies there, quite a few beautiful ones, some quite striking. I talked with one of the prettiest Colombians who asked $500 for the night, quickly coming down to $300 (it was early in the evening). She said that would get me any two holes that I wanted. Holding (pun intended) that last hole as a marketing trick for more $$ was amusing. I told her maybe later.

I played some blackjack and was on a nice winning streak when a cute, petite little thing started playing next to me. We chatted a bit while playing and I asked her if she was from Panama City and she said 'No, soy de Columbia' so I looked her over. Just what I was looking for: sweet, happy and all natural. I told her to wish me luck and went all in on the next hand and won. So I cashed in, bought her a drink and made out plans. She seemed very happy to be offered an all night deal. She negotiated a cab to my hotel where we strolled arm in arm to the elevator. The staff didn't seem to care (and there was no guest charge on the bill) perhaps because she dressed nicely and was not an obvious prostitute. If anything, the hotel staff seemed to treat me even nicer for the rest of my stay.

We got along great all night, she was quite agreeable to everything and seemed to enjoy it. We ended up cuddling and talking for a long time, each showing pictures to each other of our lives. She showed me her house in Columbia on Google-Earth and talked all about her daughter, plans for the future and what it was like to work as a prostitute. I think being away from the Venetio and in a nicer hotel relaxed her. I will certainly look her up next time I am there.

Great little soft brown body, flexible, masterbated for me, liked when I got a bit rough.

Frank86
05-21-14, 00:00
Just returned from a very pleasant visit to Panama City. My employer put me up at a 4-star within walking distance from the Ventio.

I visited the casino briefly one weekday early evening. There were a couple dozen ladies there, some very pretty and some so-so.

I visited again Friday night. There were dozens of ladies there, quite a few beautiful ones, some quite striking. I talked with one of the prettiest Colombians who asked $500 for the night, quickly coming down to $300 (it was early in the evening). She said that would get me any two holes that I wanted. Holding (pun intended) that last hole as a marketing trick for more $$ was amusing. I told her maybe later.

I played some blackjack and was on a nice winning streak when a cute, petite little thing started playing next to me. We chatted a bit while playing and I asked her if she was from Panama City and she said 'No, soy de Columbia' so I looked her over. Just what I was looking for: sweet, happy and all natural. I told her to wish me luck and went all in on the next hand and won...Nice report. I was looking into visiting Panama and staying at a 4 star type hotel, could you give a clue as to which hotel it was you were staying at that didn't seem to mind you brought a date back to your room? Would be much appreciated.

Dan D Dick
06-06-14, 12:20
I won pretty well at BJ a year or so ago, collected my money from the cage & later found two of the $100 bills in the middle were counterfeit. Insist they swipe all bills with a pen or otherwise prove they're genuine.

/ dddick.

Dan D Dick
06-06-14, 12:48
Just back from Pattaya Beach & I really enjoyed smoking my cubans at the local Starbucks on Beach Rd, watching the people / girls walk by. I'll likely visit PTY in about a week, arriving Sat 6/14 and staying about 4 - 5 nights. Less for mongering than just for some quiet, personal time away from the wife (remember. I'm just back for 2 wks in Thailand and am pretty well depleted). Any ideas on a good coffee shop or similar where I can enjoy my cigars & enjoy the views as well?

I've been to PTY many times, usually staying at the Marriott which I thoroughly enjoy but on this trip I need to watch the coins a bit more. Thinking of the Las Vegas Hotel & Suites. I haven't been particularly impressed with the Veneto & since they ripped me off on my winnings I'd rather stay elsewhere. Any comments?

Thanks.

/ dddick.

SideShow713
06-08-14, 21:59
Allright, after much deliberation and exchanging opinions back and forth, I now have a small database of tried&recommended contacts, if anyone is in town or plans to travel, drop me a pm and I'll hook you up. I'm not profiting at all from this but I simply got tired of seen mongers burning money away when you can get decent service at a much decent price with a recommendation.Hey GauntMan,

This my first posting here, I will be in Panama city this week from Thursday to Sunday, I would love some help as I am a non spanish speaking gringo. So any help is appreciated. Perhaps relatively in expensive hotel and a companion hookup.

Let me know,

Thanks

Margaya
06-15-14, 13:58
Superb report. Many thanks.

Can anyone please tell me how many girls in Venato speak English? Is it comparable to what one finds in Delray in CR?


By the recommendation of numerous posters, I booked a room at the Veneto casino. To the contrary of many travel site reports, I found the staff very responsive, attentive, and accommodating. In fact, I had decided to change rooms in the middle of my stay to go from one king bed to two doubles and they did the change without question, no extra charge, and with bellboy help to move my stuff. I booked the room for six nights through Kayak for $57 per night including tax. I paid through Kayak two weeks prior and the hotel didn't ask for more money, other than a $100 refundable deposit. My stay was over the Thanksgiving holiday.

The girls start showing up in the casino at about 6 pm and things really get hopping around 8-10 until 3 am or so. Walking through the casino is a bit like high school dating. My guess is that if a girl does not feel that instant attraction, they avoid eye contact, kind of like that stuck up cheerleader we all experienced at one point in our lives. Or maybe it is because they don't want to risk rejection and prefer for the monger to make first contact. I never could make up mind but there is certainly more eye contact and approaches by the girls as the night wears on. I didn't put it to the test, but I am certain that negotiations would be easier later in the night.

There are girls who rent rooms at the Veneto and hang around the pool during the day. I found the pool girls friendly, tired (they mostly sleep on deck) , and not willing to negotiate. I never did try one. All I was interested in was swimming laps and not socializing...

Joey Smith
06-16-14, 02:17
Superb report. Many thanks.

Can anyone please tell me how many girls in Venato speak English? Is it comparable to what one finds in Delray in CR?There will be a few. A lot of times it is just basic English. Greetings, prices, sex terms, etc.

Mfins
06-17-14, 04:34
Spent Friday and Saturday In Panama this last weekend. Went with my girlfriend but, she is cool with sitting at habanos and people watching. Friday night had a lot of talent Saturday night was much more sparse. Had one girl offer a friend of mine Todo la Noche for $300.00. He wasnt interested so he didn't try to haggle but, I am sure it was a start high and then come down tactic.

Veneto was also busier Friday and had more talent. Saturday night about 11 pm only about 10 girls around the bar area. A few more playing the machines.

All in all a good trip. The amount of plastic and fake ass and boobs seems to increase each time I go there with each Colombiana trying out do the next by going bigger and more outrageous. My girlfriend likes Panama for the Hotels and shopping. Not sure It would be my first choice anymore for mongering. Its still too hit or miss depending on which girls go out and when.

Wrong Places
06-18-14, 20:09
A simple explanation for the sparse crowds on Saturday. Colombia won an early game on Saturday afternoon. Many girls were too tired / drunk from celebrating to work Saturday night or just decided to take the night off. Expect the same tomorrow if they win. El Rinconcito Colombiano is the place to be during Colombia games for both non-pros and pros watching with friends.


Spent Friday and Saturday In Panama this last weekend. Went with my girlfriend but, she is cool with sitting at habanos and people watching. Friday night had a lot of talent Saturday night was much more sparse. Had one girl offer a friend of mine Todo la Noche for $300.00. He wasnt interested so he didn't try to haggle but, I am sure it was a start high and then come down tactic.

Veneto was also busier Friday and had more talent. Saturday night about 11 pm only about 10 girls around the bar area. A few more playing the machines.

All in all a good trip. The amount of plastic and fake ass and boobs seems to increase each time I go there with each Colombiana trying out do the next by going bigger and more outrageous. My girlfriend likes Panama for the Hotels and shopping. Not sure It would be my first choice anymore for mongering. Its still too hit or miss depending on which girls go out and when.

GauntMan
06-18-14, 23:58
Here are some of my friends, enjoy!

TellAll
06-19-14, 01:02
Here are some of my friends, enjoy!Gauntman, a friend of yours is a friend of mine. Will be headed back to Panama in the fall. Be in contact then.

Iguana Six
06-19-14, 03:33
Here are some of my friends, enjoy!Where any of those pics taken at the Oasis no-tel motel? I think I recognize the room furnishings.

Mfins
06-19-14, 03:54
A simple explanation for the sparse crowds on Saturday. Colombia won an early game on Saturday afternoon. Many girls were too tired / drunk from celebrating to work Saturday night or just decided to take the night off. Expect the same tomorrow if they win. El Rinconcito Colombiano is the place to be during Colombia games for both non-pros and pros watching with friends.That definitely makes sense but, I can tell from my last 5 trips this year that Thursday and Friday seems to be much better than Saturday nights. I know there are more business men in town during the week which encourages more girls to go out. One girl I know said Monday nights are the biggest money makers for the girls. The Business men get into town and want to go out on there first night or two there. Also, I am not sure but Saturday night may be more of a date night for the girls where they have regulars that take them out on Saturday night or the girls get pulled real early for TLN. Not sure but, seems to be a trend in Panama.

GauntMan
06-19-14, 17:04
Where any of those pics taken at the Oasis no-tel motel? I think I recognize the room furnishings.Not sure, all pics were provided by them.

Tbuss
06-24-14, 23:07
Hi All,

Looking to come down in July and Veneto seems to be priced pretty high. Does anyone know if the Continental Hotel Casino (Via Veneto & Via Espana) is guest friendly?.

Thanks.

Margaya
06-26-14, 22:40
There will be a few. A lot of times it is just basic English. Greetings, prices, sex terms, etc.OK, thank you Joey.

BluePencil2
06-29-14, 23:25
Not sure, all pics were provided by them.Gauntman,

Do you know of any paroles to get a good massage? Looking for a massage only with happy ending.

Predator II
07-12-14, 01:05
Anybody know if Alprostadil - 0.20% ca be purchased in Panama City w / o Rx?

Joe Shmoe
07-12-14, 22:51
How is the action during the weekdays?

HitJames1963
07-13-14, 00:31
I'm not 100% sure, but as a rule of thumb, any 4stars and up besides the venetto arent girl friendly and will charge you for getting girls into your room.

For girls getting a room at the venetto, it is becoming common, I know that 2 or 3 girls might make a pool and get a room for the night and they take turns fishing johns and taking them upstairs to their rooms.

In the long run, its a good investment, as with 2 or 3 pickups they recover and earn their money backI was there recently and the Hard Rock Hotel charges $109 to take a girl to the room. The reception were embarrassed and recommended that I check in to the Trump. Apparently there they don't charge. Also the Marriot opposite Habana's also is girl friendly.

Joey Smith
07-14-14, 09:47
I was there recently and the Hard Rock Hotel charges $109 to take a girl to the room. The reception were embarrassed and recommended that I check in to the Trump. Apparently there they don't charge. Also the Marriot opposite Habana's also is girl friendly.Marriott across the street from Habana's is not friendly.

GauntMan
07-15-14, 15:44
Gauntman,

Do you know of any paroles to get a good massage? Looking for a massage only with happy ending.Massage parlors arent my area of expertise, but from the posts here, the Oasis, and the ones in El Dorado and Via Argentina are your best bets.

SpiderRider
07-19-14, 04:53
Anybody know if Alprostadil - 0.20% ca be purchased in Panama City w / o Rx?Excellent question. This is the injectable. Correct? I have been experimenting with tri-mix here in the US.

Predator II
07-19-14, 11:24
Excellent question. This is the injectable. Correct? I have been experimenting with tri-mix here in the US.http://www.trimixinjection.com/tri_mix_info.html for more info.

I believe bi-mix, tri-mix and quad-mix must be compounded by specialty pharmacies so would require an Rx. Caverject®, Regitine® and Edex® should be available "as is" but not sure if an Rx is needed in Panama.

ButtLover69
07-21-14, 01:22
Anyone visiting La Bocatorena will most likely find something that they would gladly fuck. Should you not? I feel bad for you.

This place is full of cheap putas, of all kinds, my friend. Old, fat, ugly, big tits, big butts. Yumm etc.

Don't worry about the grimy scene because nothing will happen to you. If you see something you like? Try and get the girls number for daytime action. They love that shit since they don't do fuck.

All during the day. Girls here are not to complicated and don't mind getting the shit fucked out of them because yes I have experimented. If you prefer less grimy girls go to LAMAYOR.

Which is next door in this place the old and ugly girls are filtered out and because of it the prices go up. Not much just 5 $.

El capri which is located far as fuck. Located in Rio abajo is big. Really nice and modern. In this place my fellow fuck friends. You will find nice women guaranteed for as low as 15 $.

A fuck yep. 15 $ a fuck. Very good looking girls. There is a stripper pole nice big podium and a lot to choose from on any given day.

How about the Casino veneto girls?

Some of these girls will probably ask you 150 $ to hang out with them. Well I caught some of these putas getting the shit fucked out of them at the places mentioned above for 15 $(during the daytime) so in case you were interested in saving some money? There you go. Your welcome.

Now. Some of these Casino veneto and Habanos girls are so sexy that you will have an automatic boner if you stare at one but if you are ok with paying 150 $ for a girl then damm you must be.

Desperate or rich.

There are a lot more different places to bang just tell your cab driver what kind of girl you like. Its that simple.

GauntMan
07-23-14, 07:55
El capri which is located far as fuck. Located in Rio abajo is big. Really nice and modern. In this place my fellow fuck friends. You will find nice women guaranteed for as low as 15 $.

A fuck yep. 15 $ a fuck. Very good looking girls. There is a stripper pole nice big podium and a lot to choose from on any given day.

Sorry, have to correct data here.

A time slot (15 minutes) goes for around $24, cover is $3, and beware, they might try to overcharge you as soon as they notice you're not a local. Also, its not that far depending on where you are staying, any cab should be able to take you for no more than $3, anything above and they are trying to rip your pockets off.

Not sure if by arriving with a taxi will add some comission on your tab, stay alert for extra charges.

Beers go for around $4, on fridays and saturdays there is prize contest for a "subida" which is the slang for going into the room with a girl. Most girls won't go up for 1 time slot, always go for at least 2 time slots (30 mins).

SpiderRider
07-26-14, 04:18
Anyone visiting La Bocatorena will most likely find something that they would gladly fuck. Should you not? I feel bad for you.

This place is full of cheap putas, of all kinds, my friend. Old, fat, ugly, big tits, big butts. Yumm etc.

Don't worry about the grimy scene because nothing will happen to you. If you see something you like? Try and get the girls number for daytime action. They love that shit since they don't do fuck.

All during the day. Girls here are not to complicated and don't mind getting the shit fucked out of them because yes I have experimented. If you prefer less grimy girls go to LAMAYOR.

Which is next door in this place the old and ugly girls are filtered out and because of it the prices go up. Not much just 5 $.

El capri which is located far as fuck. Located in Rio abajo is big. Really nice and modern. In this place my fellow fuck friends. You will find nice women guaranteed for as low as 15 $.

A fuck yep. 15 $ a fuck. Very good looking girls. There is a stripper pole nice big podium and a lot to choose from on any given day.

How about the Casino veneto girls?

Some of these girls will probably ask you 150 $ to hang out with them. Well I caught some of these putas getting the shit fucked out of them at the places mentioned above for 15 $(during the daytime) so in case you were interested in saving some money? There you go. Your welcome.

Now. Some of these Casino veneto and Habanos girls are so sexy that you will have an automatic boner if you stare at one but if you are ok with paying 150 $ for a girl then damm you must be.

Desperate or rich.

There are a lot more different places to bang just tell your cab driver what kind of girl you like. Its that simple.Thanks! Got to remember this for my future visits.

Mr Enternational
07-26-14, 06:07
Buttlover thanks for that report. But how much are chicks in the grimier La Bocatorena? Last time I was at La Mayor (which was years ago) I was paying $10. Also, what time do both places open? One of my chicks just moved to Panama so I will be spending time there once again and I will like options while she is at work during the day.

ButtLover69
07-26-14, 07:30
Hello my fellow fuck friends!

The 15 minutes go for 25 $ cover is 3 $(LaMayor). If you are a frequent visitor you will notice that the girls will fuck / suck for 20 $ you just need to know how to talk to them. I actually scooped two from LaMayor who now come by my house for a nice fuck on the occasion for how much? Totally free. They just hang around drink and go to my pool and then we have a nice fuck session. #Life is good.

Mr enternational to anwser your question. La Bocatorena is open from about 11 am untill 4 am and is therefore great for daytime action. The prices are $1.50 for Sodas / Atlas beer / Balboa beer / mixed drinks. $2.00 for Miller light and the rest I wouldn't know because well. That's all I drink. The prices here are 15 $/15 min but you can negotiate with the ugly ones. 5 dollars for to the room and 10 dollars for the girl. As I said you can negotiate with the hungry ones or the ugly ones as they will lower their price to 10 $ (5 room 5 for her). Also if you are not in the mood to bang and just want to sit down and get sucked off you can go for 10 $. I would advise you to always have the exact change because if you pay these girls with bigger bills they tend to tip themselves.

Besides that there is not much too it. Go there. Have fun. Wrap it up good!

Goodluck!

TiFrench
07-28-14, 00:14
Hello,

I will stay soon in Hard Rock hôtel.

I have been told that the live band bar and the night club there are places to find girls.

Is this accurate? Any ideas of the fee if any this hotel will ask to bring a girl back in room?

Thanks for your advice.

Jhc1976
07-31-14, 20:18
Hello,

I will be in PTY in a few months and staying at Hotel El Panama (I wanted a room with a balcony). The hotel has informed me that it will cost $70 for a guest who did not check in at the same time as me. As a way around this, I was thinking about contacting an agency so that I can check in with my chica. I'll also be flying in from Europe and am not sure I'll have the energy to go searching for some action.

I've been quoted $600 for 24 hours by http://panamababe.com Does anyone have any experiences with this agency? What alternatives would you recommend? As I'm looking for a longer period of time, I'd like the girl to be good company as well as well as hot. No fake tits either!

Thanks in advance,

Jack

GauntMan
07-31-14, 22:04
Hello,

I will be in PTY in a few months and staying at Hotel El Panama (I wanted a room with a balcony). The hotel has informed me that it will cost $70 for a guest who did not check in at the same time as me. As a way around this, I was thinking about contacting an agency so that I can check in with my chica. I'll also be flying in from Europe and am not sure I'll have the energy to go searching for some action.

I've been quoted $600 for 24 hours by http://panamababe.com Does anyone have any experiences with this agency? What alternatives would you recommend? As I'm looking for a longer period of time, I'd like the girl to be good company as well as well as hot. No fake tits either!

Thanks in advance,

JackMy friend, AVOID that. Get your room at El Panama as originally planned. If you can change the hotel even better. You can always pick a girl at the Venetto or Ashe, for about $100 and take her to a motel called Los Arcos - 2250569, should be around $20 or something like that for a couple of hours. Taxi ride shouldn't be higher than $3 at any time.

Mr Enternational
08-01-14, 00:29
Or he can just stay at Los Arcos. That is where I used to stay. I think the daily rate was about $25 or $30 back then.

Jhc1976
08-01-14, 19:57
My friend, AVOID that. Get your room at El Panama as originally planned. If you can change the hotel even better. You can always pick a girl at the Venetto or Ashe, for about $100 and take her to a motel called Los Arcos - 2250569, should be around $20 or something like that for a couple of hours. Taxi ride shouldn't be higher than $3 at any time.Thanks for getting back to me.

How much would I be looking at for 24 hours if I go to the Venetto of Ashe?

What are the rooms in Los Arcos like?

Thanks again,

Jack

Mellowg
08-05-14, 14:57
Calle 83 Oeste, Ciudad de Panamá, Panama.

+507 224-1122.

150 meters North East on Via Espana after the 12 of October intersection. (Direction available of Google map after searching the name).

While driving my Veneto sweety home after a successful meeting of the minds, we passed the Grota. She informed me that young Colombianas are available at us $20 per shot.

Is this the take home portion for the provider, I do not know, but if I get a free minute I will investigate.

Enjoy.

Mellow.

Mr Enternational
08-09-14, 20:38
I was too busy with non-pros to do any mongering. It has been at least 6 years since I have been to Panama though and it is not as I remember it. It has really grown. The happening normal spots are in Casco Viejo and right outside of that is La Mayor. So La Mayor does not appear as the "dangerous" place that it once did. There are many vending trucks and bright lights right outside the door of La Mayor. Last night my girl wanted to walk over and get drinks there, but I diverted her.

You69Me
08-12-14, 13:47
If you drive around in the outskirts of Panama City.

You can find lots of stunning women like Heydi.

She hoped right in my car and came to my hotel.

She kept claiming that she is not a pro.

And gave me a nice BBBJ for 60.

Iguana Six
08-13-14, 04:56
Thanks for getting back to me.

How much would I be looking at for 24 hours if I go to the Venetto of Ashe?

What are the rooms in Los Arcos like?

Thanks again,

JackClean, comfortable, and just what you need, but not much else. Hot water, clean sheets, TV, air con, mood music, good sound insulation. The lobby has a curtained waiting room. Very discrete. You can not bring two girls there. I've tried. They have a policy.

You69Me
08-13-14, 15:26
There are many budget hotels between calle Cuba and ave Balboa. As soon as the sun sets you will see freelancers and pros all over this area normal price is 20 but for 40 you can get a real nice session sometimes with even 2 girls. Some hotels don't charge anything for visitors.


Clean, comfortable, and just what you need, but not much else. Hot water, clean sheets, TV, air con, mood music, good sound insulation. The lobby has a curtained waiting room. Very discrete. You can not bring two girls there. I've tried. They have a policy.

Mr Enternational
08-13-14, 17:10
There are many budget hotels between calle Cuba and ave Balboa. As soon as the sun sets you will see freelancers and pros all over this area normal price is 20 but for 40 you can get a real nice session sometimes with even 2 girls. Some hotels don't charge anything for visitors.I did see the freelancers when I was in a taxi with my girl right before we hit Balboa. I'm surprised there are not many reports on these instead of the $100 casino/club chicks.

RiceRocket99
08-14-14, 06:25
Just hit up Colon with a couple local chino buddies of mine who told me La Flor is back up and running after 18 months shutdown. A more detailed report on the Colon section!

You69Me
08-14-14, 13:37
You rather spend your money on a taxi who can drive you around half a day for as little as 20- you will have more fun finding a woman walking around than paying outrageous prices to these "lifeless" women from the "Veneto" area some of these cabbies really know where and how to hunt.


I did see the freelancers when I was in a taxi with my girl right before we hit Balboa. I'm surprised there are not many reports on these instead of the $100 casino/club chicks.

Luv Fake
08-18-14, 06:10
Anyone try the girls from this website?

http://www.elcomplaciente.com/zafiro_eng.php

GauntMan
08-18-14, 19:31
Anyone try the girls from this website?

http://www.elcomplaciente.com/zafiro_eng.phpI don't like this so called agency. In the past there have been rumors about bait&switch and some of the pics are taken from the internet, use a reverse image tool or the google image search.

Besides they are expensive, no less than $150. I prefer going to ashe or habanos, pretty damn sure you can get one as equal or better than what's advertised there for even less if you drive a good negotiation with the girl.

Luv Fake
08-19-14, 01:47
Thank you GauntMan. I was thinking the same but thanks for the guidance?

Would any members recommend beauties with silicone tits (implants). I really like large fake tits but I'm not sure who to contact in Panama. I will be at the Veneto 8/25-8/27.

Any contacts will be greatly appreciated!

You can PM me as well.

Thank You gentlemen!


I don't like this so called agency. In the past there have been rumors about bait&switch and some of the pics are taken from the internet, use a reverse image tool or the google image search.

Besides they are expensive, no less than $150. I prefer going to ashe or habanos, pretty damn sure you can get one as equal or better than what's advertised there for even less if you drive a good negotiation with the girl.

TellAll
08-19-14, 07:54
Thank you GauntMan. I was thinking the same but thanks for the guidance?

Would any members recommend beauties with silicone tits (implants). I really like large fake tits but I'm not sure who to contact in Panama. I will be at the Veneto 8/25-8/27.

Any contacts will be greatly appreciated!

You can PM me as well.

Thank You gentlemen!You can find plenty of big fake tits on your own at the Veneto or Habanos.

Luv Fake
08-23-14, 03:59
If anyone has any contacts for any "playboy" type bodies in Panama, I'm confirm in on Monday for 2 days. I really appreciate it.


You can find plenty of big fake tits on your own at the Veneto or Habanos.

Bonhead
08-30-14, 17:51
If anyone has any contacts for any "playboy" type bodies in Panama, I'm confirm in on Monday for 2 days. I really appreciate it.Did you find what you were looking for? Anything else to report back on your time down there?

Luv Fake
09-04-14, 17:53
I arrived in Panama City on Mon (8/25) and left on Wed (8/27), so here is a summary of my experiences:

Before arriving here, I have been in contact with a fellow ISG member and he was extremely helpful in guiding me in the right direction. I checked in the Veneto about 8 PM, took a shower, and went down roaming the hotel lobby and casino for about an hour. While in the lobby, a hottie comes in by the side bar and sits. I approach her and she speaks very minimal English. I talk to her and buy a corona for me but she seems all business. I did not like the attitude. She asked for 150, no kissing, no pussy licking, no BBBJ. I declined.

Of course, for me, I have been to different places and I am from Miami, so I've been mostly to Canada, Germany and Russia for mongering. The minimum service-wise I always look for would have to be dfk, BBBJ, and daty, in addition to looks. Unlike most gentlemen, I would say I prefer silicone tits (implants). Having said that, Panama City is a mixed experience. Keep in mind this is my first mongering experience in a Latin American country so I have yet to experience Costa Rica and DR and others.

Let me continue: After I declined that hottie in the lobby, I went up to the casino. Had a couple beers and it was pretty packed. I stood at the bar and I was initially impressed with the number of hot girls that day. I approached a girl standing there and started talking. She had a 8/10 face with dark features from Cali, Colombia and wearing a nice outfit. She said yes to kissing, but no BBJ and no DATY for 150. I bought her down to 120 and I said let me try her. We went up and me and her took a shower but when she took her clothes off, she has a C-section so I was like WTF. Anyways, I showered with her and tried to kiss her and grab her and she was resisting a little bit. I'm a good looking guy too and this dumbass seemed restricted all of a sudden. Body was a 6/10 so I was put down. We had missionary and she put too much lube on condom so it was very mechanical. I was done in 30 min and kicked her out.

I went back down after a shower and it was still packed with not too many guys, just chicks sitting all over looking bored. Some are hot, some should not be there. One girl approached me at the bar. She was real thin, small tits, but very playful. She seemed she liked talking to me so I told her about the past experience and she said she doesn't do BBBJ too. I was like WTF. So she wanted 150 too but I told her kissing at least so she says maybe. Again, WTF. So I told her due to my past experience, I'll try her out for 1/2 hr for 80 and she agreed.

Upstairs, her body and face were 7/10. She kissed but very minimal but she was a lot better than the previous since the sex was better. She was kissing my body all over trying to be more passionate and it felt better. But the downside again is no BBBJ, no DFK, no DATY. She was Colombian so both of these girls made me disappointed in them. Since I arrived Mon and was tired, I just went to sleep.

On Tuesday, I woke up and took a taxi at about 3 PM to Golden Time (massage place mentioned here). I went to the strip mall its in and the lady inside told me it opens at 7 PM so I walked down to the Wendys and had a bite there. Went back to Veneto to see how things are there and it was very quiet with no action. Tried to hook up with some contacts through an ISG member with no luck. At about 7:30 PM, I leave again to Golden Time. I enter the place and was let into a room with chairs. There was one guy already sitting there. I didn't know what to expect and my Spanish is zero. The guy comes in and I speak English with him. He explains the price is 120 and girls come in and gives me pencil and paper. The girls walk in and honestly some of the girls are really hot. Most of them are 7/10 but there are 8's and 9's in there. I chose 3 with fake tits that looked like models and wrote there numbers. They guy told me to choose one so I chose a number. She sits with me and I tell her kissing and she says no. I tell her BBBJ and she says no. I tell her DATY and she says no. In my head, I'm alredy thinking this is retarded. The girls in the FKK and Canada and other places offer all that and more. Anyways, I just go with her for the looks. I take a shower up, she gives me a nice massage and I get to lick her tits. She sits on me cowgirl but I can't cum so I switch to mish and bust looking and squeezing her hard tits. It was an ok experience but she was a 9/10.

On my way back, I go to Gauchos for steak. In one word. Amazing steak plus I see some hotties with some guys in there (they look like working girls but definitely hot). So I decide to go to Habano's at 10 PM. It was packed. When I got in, my first impression was the hottest girls I have yet seen. Way better than Veneto to be honest. A lot of 8's and 9's and even 10's here. A lot of fake tits, fakes asses, make-up, playboy types, model and porn-star looks which I like. Now the service is most likely bad but its probably all down to luck. Anyways, a girl stands next to me and I ask her to sit. She sits with me and I get 2 beers from the bar. She was very quiet and I start talking to the monger next to me since a few girls came and kissed him. He tells me that in his 8 years in the city, he's been disappointed by most Columbian girls there since they are too young and / or lack good services. He said they are hot looking but most will not do BBBJ or dfk. He also told me that the one sitting next to me will probably be no good in good. Most of the girls there ask for 150 for 1 hr. At that point, she asked me if I wanted her to come with me and I told her to give me her number. All of a sudden, she declined and got angry. She tells me that I committed to her and I tell her no so she starts telling me that I should pay her for the sitting since I wasted her time. I was thinking this is bullshit. So she says she will go and tell her manager. She gets up and goes to the back to tell her manager about this. As she does this, I stand up and get the hell out of there. In all honesty, I don't know if this is the system or not but I just leave and walk back to Veneto. It was about 12 now so I go to the casino but much quieter than Monday but still with girls. I saw the first girl there but I turned my face away. I walked around for about 2 hours but couldn't find anything good. As I was heading to the elevators, I saw one hot black girl playing on the machine. Her tits looked fake as they were popping out and she had large lips and she was very thin. I came up to her and she was smiling. There was an older lady with her. I told her if she would like to join me in the room for fun and she says yes right away. I ask her for full kissing, DFK, and BBBJ and surprisingly she says yes to all. I ask her the price and she says 100. I give her an 8 easily so she was perfect for me. She talks to the older lady and I take her up. When we get in, she takes a quick shower and comes out. She puts her high heel shoes on and she looks very hot. Dark chocolate skin, thin, large fake tits, pierced pussy and belly button which I like. We start DFK passionately. She does BBBJ and I do daty. She is great. The best experience thus far. She is from Cali, Colombia also but much better than everyone else. I had a great time wither for the full hour.

I arrived in Panama City on Mon (8/25) and left on Wed (8/27), so here is a summary of my experiences:

I guess its a matter of luck. But Panama is a beautiful city with some very hot girls but service-wise, I am not sure. The FKK girls are hot with great service. But keep in mind that the FKKs are even cheaper. Panama is not that cheap either. I heard these Colombian girls are cheaper in Colombia and that's why I would like to visit there probably but I wonder how service is there. Is it the same as in Panama City or is it that the Columbians in Panama are too spoiled with the money? So do the Colombians in Colombia offer BBBJ, DFK, and DATY?

Also, like I mentioned: I love fake tits so I am planning on going to either Costa Rica or DR next. Which one do you recommend and which city? If there are other places with good service, please chime in.

Thanks everyone.


Did you find what you were looking for? Anything else to report back on your time down there?

TellAll
09-05-14, 04:12
I arrived in Panama City on Mon (8/25) and left on Wed (8/27), so here is a summary of my experiences:

Before arriving here, I have been in contact with a fellow ISG member and he was extremely helpful in guiding me in the right direction. I checked in the Veneto about 8 PM, took a shower, and went down roaming the hotel lobby and casino for about an hour. While in the lobby, a hottie comes in by the side bar and sits. I approach her and she speaks very minimal English. I talk to her and buy a corona for me but she seems all business. I did not like the attitude. She asked for 150, no kissing, no pussy licking, no BBBJ. I declined.

Of course, for me, I have been to different places and I am from Miami, so I've been mostly to Canada, Germany and Russia for mongering. The minimum service-wise I always look for would have to be dfk, BBBJ, and daty, in addition to looks. Unlike most gentlemen, I would say I prefer silicone tits (implants). Having said that, Panama City is a mixed experience. Keep in mind this is my first mongering experience in a Latin American country so I have yet to experience Costa Rica and DR and others.

Let me continue: After I declined that hottie in the lobby, I went up to the casino. Had a couple beers and it was pretty packed. I stood at the bar and I was initially impressed with the number of hot girls that day. I approached a girl standing there and started talking. She had a 8/10 face with dark features from Cali, Colombia and wearing a nice outfit. She said yes to kissing, but no BBJ and no DATY for 150. I bought her down to 120 and I said let me try her. We went up and me and her took a shower but when she took her clothes off, she has a C-section so I was like WTF. Anyways, I showered with her and tried to kiss her and grab her and she was resisting a little bit. I'm a good looking guy too and this dumbass seemed restricted all of a sudden. Body was a 6/10 so I was put down. We had missionary and she put too much lube on condom so it was very mechanical. I was done in 30 min and kicked her out.

I went back down after a shower and it was still packed with not too many guys, just chicks sitting all over looking bored. Some are hot, some should not be there. One girl approached me at the bar. She was real thin, small tits, but very playful. She seemed she liked talking to me so I told her about the past experience and she said she doesn't do BBBJ too. I was like WTF. So she wanted 150 too but I told her kissing at least so she says maybe. Again, WTF. So I told her due to my past experience, I'll try her out for 1/2 hr for 80 and she agreed.

Upstairs, her body and face were 7/10. She kissed but very minimal but she was a lot better than the previous since the sex was better. She was kissing my body all over trying to be more passionate and it felt better. But the downside again is no BBBJ, no DFK, no DATY. She was Colombian so both of these girls made me disappointed in them. Since I arrived Mon and was tired, I just went to sleep.

On Tuesday, I woke up and took a taxi at about 3 PM to Golden Time (massage place mentioned here). I went to the strip mall its in and the lady inside told me it opens at 7 PM so I walked down to the Wendys and had a bite there. Went back to Veneto to see how things are there and it was very quiet with no action. Tried to hook up with some contacts through an ISG member with no luck. At about 7:30 PM, I leave again to Golden Time. I enter the place and was let into a room with chairs. There was one guy already sitting there. I didn't know what to expect and my Spanish is zero. The guy comes in and I speak English with him. He explains the price is 120 and girls come in and gives me pencil and paper. The girls walk in and honestly some of the girls are really hot. Most of them are 7/10 but there are 8's and 9's in there. I chose 3 with fake tits that looked like models and wrote there numbers. They guy told me to choose one so I chose a number. She sits with me and I tell her kissing and she says no. I tell her BBBJ and she says no. I tell her DATY and she says no. In my head, I'm alredy thinking this is retarded. The girls in the FKK and Canada and other places offer all that and more. Anyways, I just go with her for the looks. I take a shower up, she gives me a nice massage and I get to lick her tits. She sits on me cowgirl but I can't cum so I switch to mish and bust looking and squeezing her hard tits. It was an ok experience but she was a 9/10.

On my way back, I go to Gauchos for steak. In one word. Amazing steak plus I see some hotties with some guys in there (they look like working girls but definitely hot). So I decide to go to Habano's at 10 PM. It was packed. When I got in, my first impression was the hottest girls I have yet seen. Way better than Veneto to be honest. A lot of 8's and 9's and even 10's here. A lot of fake tits, fakes asses, make-up, playboy types, model and porn-star looks which I like. Now the service is most likely bad but its probably all down to luck. Anyways, a girl stands next to me and I ask her to sit. She sits with me and I get 2 beers from the bar. She was very quiet and I start talking to the monger next to me since a few girls came and kissed him. He tells me that in his 8 years in the city, he's been disappointed by most Columbian girls there since they are too young and / or lack good services. He said they are hot looking but most will not do BBBJ or dfk. He also told me that the one sitting next to me will probably be no good in good. Most of the girls there ask for 150 for 1 hr. At that point, she asked me if I wanted her to come with me and I told her to give me her number. All of a sudden, she declined and got angry. She tells me that I committed to her and I tell her no so she starts telling me that I should pay her for the sitting since I wasted her time. I was thinking this is bullshit. So she says she will go and tell her manager. She gets up and goes to the back to tell her manager about this. As she does this, I stand up and get the hell out of there. In all honesty, I don't know if this is the system or not but I just leave and walk back to Veneto. It was about 12 now so I go to the casino but much quieter than Monday but still with girls. I saw the first girl there but I turned my face away. I walked around for about 2 hours but couldn't find anything good. As I was heading to the elevators, I saw one hot black girl playing on the machine. Her tits looked fake as they were popping out and she had large lips and she was very thin. I came up to her and she was smiling. There was an older lady with her. I told her if she would like to join me in the room for fun and she says yes right away. I ask her for full kissing, DFK, and BBBJ and surprisingly she says yes to all. I ask her the price and she says 100. I give her an 8 easily so she was perfect for me. She talks to the older lady and I take her up. When we get in, she takes a quick shower and comes out. She puts her high heel shoes on and she looks very hot. Dark chocolate skin, thin, large fake tits, pierced pussy and belly button which I like. We start DFK passionately. She does BBBJ and I do daty. She is great. The best experience thus far. She is from Cali, Colombia also but much better than everyone else. I had a great time wither for the full hour.

I arrived in Panama City on Mon (8/25) and left on Wed (8/27), so here is a summary of my experiences:

I guess its a matter of luck. But Panama is a beautiful city with some very hot girls but service-wise, I am not sure. The FKK girls are hot with great service. But keep in mind that the FKKs are even cheaper. Panama is not that cheap either. I heard these Colombian girls are cheaper in Colombia and that's why I would like to visit there probably but I wonder how service is there. Is it the same as in Panama City or is it that the Columbians in Panama are too spoiled with the money? So do the Colombians in Colombia offer BBBJ, DFK, and DATY?

Also, like I mentioned: I love fake tits so I am planning on going to either Costa Rica or DR next. Which one do you recommend and which city? If there are other places with good service, please chime in.

Thanks everyone.Thanks for the report. I have only one question. Having been to Panama myself, why would you pay top dollar to girls who you knew in advance would not give you the service you wanted?

Luv Fake
09-05-14, 06:13
Because in the end, I'm in Panama. And it will either be a fuck or a no fuck. So I choose to fuck. In terms of top dollar, those rates of 100-150 applies to all of them around that area (Veneto, habanos, etc), so if it's top dollar, that's what it is down there. It's not like I have other options and I declined them.

Actually the last experience was fun, and that might give me a reason to visit again. I know there are gems but I have to look hard. I don't think 2 nights would be enough exploring for a first visit.

However, I want to know of a place or city in Latin America where all the girls are models and give great service. Maybe I'll never find it. And maybe I will!


Thanks for the report. I have only one question. Having been to Panama myself, why would you pay top dollar to girls who you knew in advance would not give you the service you wanted?

Combo
09-05-14, 07:51
I arrived in Panama City on Mon (8/25) and left on Wed (8/27), so here is a summary of my experiences:

Before arriving here, I have been in contact with a fellow ISG member and he was extremely helpful in guiding me in the right direction. I checked in the Veneto about 8 PM, took a shower, and went down roaming the hotel lobby and casino for about an hour. While in the lobby, a hottie comes in by the side bar and sits. I approach her and she speaks very minimal English. I talk to her and buy a corona for me but she seems all business. I did not like the attitude. She asked for 150, no kissing, no pussy licking, no BBBJ. I declined.

Of course, for me, I have been to different places and I am from Miami, so I've been mostly to Canada, Germany and Russia for mongering. The minimum service-wise I always look for would have to be dfk, BBBJ, and daty, in addition to looks. Unlike most gentlemen, I would say I prefer silicone tits (implants). Having said that, Panama City is a mixed experience. Keep in mind this is my first mongering experience in a Latin American country so I have yet to experience Costa Rica and DR and others.

Let me continue: After I declined that hottie in the lobby, I went up to the casino. Had a couple beers and it was pretty packed. I stood at the bar and I was initially impressed with the number of hot girls that day. I approached a girl standing there and started talking. She had a 8/10 face with dark features from Cali, Colombia and wearing a nice outfit. She said yes to kissing, but no BBJ and no DATY for 150. I bought her down to 120 and I said let me try her. We went up and me and her took a shower but when she took her clothes off, she has a C-section so I was like WTF. Anyways, I showered with her and tried to kiss her and grab her and she was resisting a little bit. I'm a good looking guy too and this dumbass seemed restricted all of a sudden. Body was a 6/10 so I was put down. We had missionary and she put too much lube on condom so it was very mechanical. I was done in 30 min and kicked her out.

I went back down after a shower and it was still packed with not too many guys, just chicks sitting all over looking bored. Some are hot, some should not be there. One girl approached me at the bar. She was real thin, small tits, but very playful. She seemed she liked talking to me so I told her about the past experience and she said she doesn't do BBBJ too. I was like WTF. So she wanted 150 too but I told her kissing at least so she says maybe. Again, WTF. So I told her due to my past experience, I'll try her out for 1/2 hr for 80 and she agreed.

Upstairs, her body and face were 7/10. She kissed but very minimal but she was a lot better than the previous since the sex was better. She was kissing my body all over trying to be more passionate and it felt better. But the downside again is no BBBJ, no DFK, no DATY. She was Colombian so both of these girls made me disappointed in them. Since I arrived Mon and was tired, I just went to sleep.

On Tuesday, I woke up and took a taxi at about 3 PM to Golden Time (massage place mentioned here). I went to the strip mall its in and the lady inside told me it opens at 7 PM so I walked down to the Wendys and had a bite there. Went back to Veneto to see how things are there and it was very quiet with no action. Tried to hook up with some contacts through an ISG member with no luck. At about 7:30 PM, I leave again to Golden Time. I enter the place and was let into a room with chairs. There was one guy already sitting there. I didn't know what to expect and my Spanish is zero. The guy comes in and I speak English with him. He explains the price is 120 and girls come in and gives me pencil and paper. The girls walk in and honestly some of the girls are really hot. Most of them are 7/10 but there are 8's and 9's in there. I chose 3 with fake tits that looked like models and wrote there numbers. They guy told me to choose one so I chose a number. She sits with me and I tell her kissing and she says no. I tell her BBBJ and she says no. I tell her DATY and she says no. In my head, I'm alredy thinking this is retarded. The girls in the FKK and Canada and other places offer all that and more. Anyways, I just go with her for the looks. I take a shower up, she gives me a nice massage and I get to lick her tits. She sits on me cowgirl but I can't cum so I switch to mish and bust looking and squeezing her hard tits. It was an ok experience but she was a 9/10.

On my way back, I go to Gauchos for steak. In one word. Amazing steak plus I see some hotties with some guys in there (they look like working girls but definitely hot). So I decide to go to Habano's at 10 PM. It was packed. When I got in, my first impression was the hottest girls I have yet seen. Way better than Veneto to be honest. A lot of 8's and 9's and even 10's here. A lot of fake tits, fakes asses, make-up, playboy types, model and porn-star looks which I like. Now the service is most likely bad but its probably all down to luck. Anyways, a girl stands next to me and I ask her to sit. She sits with me and I get 2 beers from the bar. She was very quiet and I start talking to the monger next to me since a few girls came and kissed him. He tells me that in his 8 years in the city, he's been disappointed by most Columbian girls there since they are too young and / or lack good services. He said they are hot looking but most will not do BBBJ or dfk. He also told me that the one sitting next to me will probably be no good in good. Most of the girls there ask for 150 for 1 hr. At that point, she asked me if I wanted her to come with me and I told her to give me her number. All of a sudden, she declined and got angry. She tells me that I committed to her and I tell her no so she starts telling me that I should pay her for the sitting since I wasted her time. I was thinking this is bullshit. So she says she will go and tell her manager. She gets up and goes to the back to tell her manager about this. As she does this, I stand up and get the hell out of there. In all honesty, I don't know if this is the system or not but I just leave and walk back to Veneto. It was about 12 now so I go to the casino but much quieter than Monday but still with girls. I saw the first girl there but I turned my face away. I walked around for about 2 hours but couldn't find anything good. As I was heading to the elevators, I saw one hot black girl playing on the machine. Her tits looked fake as they were popping out and she had large lips and she was very thin. I came up to her and she was smiling. There was an older lady with her. I told her if she would like to join me in the room for fun and she says yes right away. I ask her for full kissing, DFK, and BBBJ and surprisingly she says yes to all. I ask her the price and she says 100. I give her an 8 easily so she was perfect for me. She talks to the older lady and I take her up. When we get in, she takes a quick shower and comes out. She puts her high heel shoes on and she looks very hot. Dark chocolate skin, thin, large fake tits, pierced pussy and belly button which I like. We start DFK passionately. She does BBBJ and I do daty. She is great. The best experience thus far. She is from Cali, Colombia also but much better than everyone else. I had a great time wither for the full hour.

I arrived in Panama City on Mon (8/25) and left on Wed (8/27), so here is a summary of my experiences:

I guess its a matter of luck. But Panama is a beautiful city with some very hot girls but service-wise, I am not sure. The FKK girls are hot with great service. But keep in mind that the FKKs are even cheaper. Panama is not that cheap either. I heard these Colombian girls are cheaper in Colombia and that's why I would like to visit there probably but I wonder how service is there. Is it the same as in Panama City or is it that the Columbians in Panama are too spoiled with the money? So do the Colombians in Colombia offer BBBJ, DFK, and DATY?

Also, like I mentioned: I love fake tits so I am planning on going to either Costa Rica or DR next. Which one do you recommend and which city? If there are other places with good service, please chime in.

Thanks everyone.If you like fake tits (and asses), go to Cali, Colombia. Lots of women there that look like Cartoon characters with ridiculous (IMO) fake tits and asses. I personally don't like it, but apparently enough guys do.

DR is the other end of the spectrum. Very few girls with breast / ass augmentation.

Mr Enternational
09-05-14, 11:55
Also, like I mentioned: I love fake tits so I am planning on going to either Costa Rica or DR next. Which one do you recommend and which city?Well you definitely will not find many fake tits in DR. Not too many women there are naturally flat-chested. And if they were then they definitely could not afford implants. Spending as you did in Panama, you should feel right at home at some of the high-end Santo Domingo places. If you do go then please don't throw money around like that at some of the regular folk places where we are accustomed to paying from $35 to $60 for all night.

Turgid
09-06-14, 18:55
"I guess its a matter of luck. But Panama is a beautiful city with some very hot girls but service-wise, I am not sure. The FKK girls are hot with great service. But keep in mind that the FKKs are even cheaper. Panama is not that cheap either. I heard these Colombian girls are cheaper in Colombia and that's why I would like to visit there probably but I wonder how service is there. Is it the same as in Panama City or is it that the Columbians in Panama are too spoiled with the money? So do the Colombians in Colombia offer BBBJ, DFK, and DATY?

Also, like I mentioned: I love fake tits so I am planning on going to either Costa Rica or DR next. Which one do you recommend and which city? If there are other places with good service, please chime in. ".

I have found it difficult to get BBBJ and DFK in Latin America. It is much easier to get that in Asia (except India) and Europe. I have not had much of a problem getting DATY in Latin America. I get it on an average 90% of the time. I usually don't ask beforehand, just go with the flow. When I try DFK she will turn her face, when its time for BJ she'll usually cap me first and when I begin to go down on her around 10% will prevent me.

As far as service is concerned, Brazilians give the best while Dominicans give the worst. Generally, I have found that most Latin American providers give relatively good service while I have found that most Dominicans will give as little service as they can get away with. That may not be the experience of many mongers on this board but it is mine. Also I have read that many mongers find non pro Dominicans in the DR to be very friendly. Remember though that because of the proximity of the DR to the US many Dominican chicas have been spoilt by American men coming to the DR and throwing money around. Regarding beauty my personal preference is for Colombians, Brazilians and Argentinians.

WorldWideScout
09-07-14, 16:52
"I guess its a matter of luck. But Panama is a beautiful city with some very hot girls but service-wise, I am not sure. The FKK girls are hot with great service. But keep in mind that the FKKs are even cheaper. Panama is not that cheap either. I heard these Colombian girls are cheaper in Colombia and that's why I would like to visit there probably but I wonder how service is there. Is it the same as in Panama City or is it that the Columbians in Panama are too spoiled with the money? So do the Colombians in Colombia offer BBBJ, DFK, and DATY?

Also, like I mentioned: I love fake tits so I am planning on going to either Costa Rica or DR next. Which one do you recommend and which city? If there are other places with good service, please chime in. ".

I have found it difficult to get BBBJ and DFK in Latin America. It is much easier to get that in Asia (except India) and Europe. I have not had much of a problem getting DATY in Latin America. I get it on an average 90% of the time. I usually don't ask beforehand, just go with the flow. When I try DFK she will turn her face, when its time for BJ she'll usually cap me first and when I begin to go down on her around 10% will prevent me.

As far as service is concerned, Brazilians give the best while Dominicans give the worst. Generally, I have found that most Latin American providers give relatively good service while I have found that most Dominicans will give as little service as they can get away with. That may not be the experience of many mongers on this board but it is mine. Also I have read that many mongers find non pro Dominicans in the DR to be very friendly. Remember though that because of the proximity of the DR to the US many Dominican chicas have been spoilt by American men coming to the DR and throwing money around. Regarding beauty my personal preference is for Colombians, Brazilians and Argentinians.I hate Costa Rica, not because of the girls and the high costs, but the government / cops / airport security is atrocious and abusive. Personally there are a lot friendlier places to go, they clearly hate and do not want tourists, so why give them our patronage? Thieves and Overzealous angry officials = Costa Rica. I know it sounds harsh, sorry to anyone that lives there and is proud of it, but it really is a shitty country. I'd probably have more fun being a black man in 1950's Alabama.

But the DR! There is fun to be had there for sure. I once had a girl give me BJ in an alleyway and when done wanted me to rate her performance? Haha she had customer service questions! I do find the DR a bit costly, more like Bangkok prices $40-$80, a really nice casa you might spend $100. Girls off the street are super fun, despite the locals warning you about how dangerous they are. I would of course recommend someplace Not touristy. No beach towns. Boca Chica might be the sleaziest place I've seen. At least in the top 3. A pregnant lady was aggressively trying to give me a blowjob in broad daylight on a main walk all while haitian kids are angrily insisting they shine my shoes. I did get a stellar $60 session there though where I had to hop on the back some stranger's motorbike and go to some scary place. Risky but fun. I would stick to a main city that doesn't get a lot of tourism like Santo Domingo. Oh yeah no fake tits.

WorldWideScout
09-07-14, 16:54
Has anyone tried this place? Is this for real?

La Nueva Gruta Azul: Club in Panama that is cheap and some girls are really hot. A beautiful Colombian girl costs you $20 dollars to have sex. Drinks are cheap. Arrive there after 7 pm and there would be around 7 girls usually sitting down chatting. There are now dancers or shows but is worth a visit. Its located in Via España ask a taxi to take you there.

Turgid
09-07-14, 19:03
IBut the DR! There is fun to be had there for sure. I once had a girl give me BJ in an alleyway and when done wanted me to rate her performance? Haha she had customer service questions! I do find the DR a bit costly, more like Bangkok prices $40-$80, a really nice casa you might spend $100. Girls off the street are super fun, despite the locals warning you about how dangerous they are. I would of course recommend someplace Not touristy. No beach towns. Boca Chica might be the sleaziest place I've seen. At least in the top 3. A pregnant lady was aggressively trying to give me a blowjob in broad daylight on a main walk all while haitian kids are angrily insisting they shine my shoes. I did get a stellar $60 session there though where I had to hop on the back some stranger's motorbike and go to some scary place. Risky but fun. I would stick to a main city that doesn't get a lot of tourism like Santo Domingo. Oh yeah no fake tits.I used to visit Boca Chica in my younger days. No way I'm going to stay there now. I'll go there only for seabathing. If I do return to Sosua, it would be more for the tourist activities than for mongering. Punta Cana would also be great but not for mongering. Santo Domingo is too difficult to navigate, it is just not a visitor friendly city. Also the hotels are overpriced. I have found Medellin a much better destination with reasonable accommodation, easy transportation and good weather. For those with a healthy bank account Brazil is an even better destination, 100 % guaranteed excellent service with the sexiest women on the planet.

WorldWideScout
09-07-14, 19:21
I used to visit Boca Chica in my younger days. No way I'm going to stay there now. I'll go there only for seabathing. If I do return to Sosua, it would be more for the tourist activities than for mongering. Punta Cana would also be great but not for mongering. Santo Domingo is too difficult to navigate, it is just not a visitor friendly city. Also the hotels are overpriced. I have found Medellin a much better destination with reasonable accommodation, easy transportation and good weather. For those with a healthy bank account Brazil is an even better destination, 100 % guaranteed excellent service with the sexiest women on the planet.Medellin! I'm actually moving there for a while next month. If you're down there let me know.

Turgid
09-08-14, 15:11
Medellin! I'm actually moving there for a while next month. If you're down there let me know.Lucky you. I was there in July and had a great time. I can't get back until the middle of next year.

WorldWideScout
09-11-14, 07:59
Wow, after spending time in nicaragua these Panamian SWs look super hot! SO here's the question of the hour! Let's say you were going to be in Medellin in a few days, would you bother spending $100 on a veneto girl? OR are they better / same and substantially cheaper in Medellin (e. G. Spank it, save $ and wait)?

HangerOne
09-11-14, 08:01
I wanted to go there my list trip, but spent most of my time with a girl I met at Veneto LOL.


Has anyone tried this place? Is this for real?

La Nueva Gruta Azul: Club in Panama that is cheap and some girls are really hot. A beautiful Colombian girl costs you $20 dollars to have sex. Drinks are cheap. Arrive there after 7 pm and there would be around 7 girls usually sitting down chatting. There are now dancers or shows but is worth a visit. Its located in Via Espaa ask a taxi to take you there.

HangerOne
09-11-14, 08:14
The Veneto is having another fall sale, last year around this time I booked for 45 dollars a night via Expedia and right now its down to as low as 34 dollars a night for some nights in October and November. Check expedia.com for more details.

WorldWideScout
09-11-14, 20:33
I wanted to go there my list trip, but spent most of my time with a girl I met at Veneto LOL.Just got back! It's great, and it's real. Low end and sleazy but well worth it. Seems the only difference between a $20 girl and an $70-$150 girl is the fake boobs. The $20 girlseemed happy to be with me vs. The veneto girl I talked to (and passed up) who rattled off her prices and rules like she was doing Me a favor!

WorldWideScout
09-11-14, 20:36
There's a cute / attractive girl working the street during the day offering herself up for $50. Across the street from veneto just hanging around looking for a cock $ fix.

Interesting thing about Panama so far, is just walking around and seeing all the random hot girls going about their day makes it clear/reminds me that the girls giving me the runaround in the USA are total losers.

Mr Enternational
09-11-14, 23:39
Interesting thing about Panama so far, is just walking around and seeing all the random hot girls going about their day makes it clear/reminds me that the girls giving me the runaround in the USA are total losers.And what are those random hot girls going about their day in Panama giving you?

Gagoo
09-16-14, 01:50
"I guess its a matter of luck. But Panama is a beautiful city with some very hot girls but service-wise, I am not sure. The FKK girls are hot with great service. But keep in mind that the FKKs are even cheaper. Panama is not that cheap either. I heard these Colombian girls are cheaper in Colombia and that's why I would like to visit there probably but I wonder how service is there. Is it the same as in Panama City or is it that the Columbians in Panama are too spoiled with the money? So do the Colombians in Colombia offer BBBJ, DFK, and DATY?

Also, like I mentioned: I love fake tits so I am planning on going to either Costa Rica or DR next. Which one do you recommend and which city? If there are other places with good service, please chime in. ".

I have found it difficult to get BBBJ and DFK in Latin America. It is much easier to get that in Asia (except India) and Europe. I have not had much of a problem getting DATY in Latin America. I get it on an average 90% of the time. I usually don't ask beforehand, just go with the flow. When I try DFK she will turn her face, when its time for BJ she'll usually cap me first and when I begin to go down on her around 10% will prevent me.

As far as service is concerned, Brazilians give the best while Dominicans give the worst. Generally, I have found that most Latin American providers give relatively good service while I have found that most Dominicans will give as little service as they can get away with. That may not be the experience of many mongers on this board but it is mine. Also I have read that many mongers find non pro Dominicans in the DR to be very friendly. Remember though that because of the proximity of the DR to the US many Dominican chicas have been spoilt by American men coming to the DR and throwing money around. Regarding beauty my personal preference is for Colombians, Brazilians and Argentinians.If you like the fake stuff and don't mind high prices, Le Palace in Panama will make you a happy person.

I personally give bonus points to a naturally large chest, and I subtract many many points for a fake ass. I will resist any fake asses.

I got to Veneto 2 nights ago, and as usual if you want fake tits there are plenty here. I like Colombian women. They are better if you meet them in Colombia of course.

In all of my trips here, I've probably had the best times with Panamian chicks, if you find a good looking one. I've only been with 3 Panamanian chicks, but they had all nice, natural curves. And yeah, all of them had kids, which doesn't surprise me.

For fake stuff you will see lots in Le Palace, where Justin Bieber himself was at, but he had a Panamanian chick. If you think you will ever visit here or where the girl actually comes from, it really helps to get her contact info for Whatsapp or Facebook, that is if you don't mind her being your Facebook friend. I have mongered many of my Facebook ladies, but they all seem to behave, and I don't go posting dumb stuff on their Facebook pages either. When you return here or see them in their country, you will have already broken the ice and should get a much better GFE.

2 Nights ago I met the Panamanian chica I took once before, and she didn't ask me for the money before sex, and things where much better overall. But, I try not to redo the same chic more than once per visit so I can add more notches to my belt. Make that belts.

Gagoo
09-16-14, 01:59
The Veneto is having another fall sale, last year around this time I booked for 45 dollars a night via Expedia and right now its down to as low as 34 dollars a night for some nights in October and November. Check expedia.com for more details.I booked a lot of one-way flights, so I will be in 6 countries other than the USA, for 6 weeks of travel. When I booked the Panama flight, Cheaptickets. Com, gave me some nights of my nights listed at $26, but that was $26 before whatever other taxes. I think a couple nights was $46. After all of the fees and taxes this and that I paid $302 for 5 nights. I think it only popped up this deal because I also bought a plane ticket there. I know Orbitz sometimes make a very good deal if you book as a package. I noticed that whenevr you find some good deal on the internet for this hotel, they will put you in a more run down, less up to date room. Like last time I got a room here much cheaper than my friend, he got a nice room, and the room, like I just got another room here, has no mini-bar, no fridge, has an old style TV, needs some maintenance etc. If you pay closer to $100 you will get you a nice room.

Mr Enternational
09-16-14, 01:59
I personally give bonus points to a naturally large chest, and I subtract many many points for a fake ass. I will resist any fake asses.I guess I can expect to see you in Santo Domingo again then huh?

Gagoo
09-16-14, 02:23
I guess I can expect to see you in Santo Domingo again then huh?I finally retired earlier this year and I'm enjoying being a free man. LOL Nothing to anchor me down.

I was going to go Caribbean Island hopping instead, but that included seeing.

A good friend of mine on the East Coast, but he complained he just started college, so I didn't want to bother him.

I was going to go to SDQ and Sosua, but not now.

I made a lot of direct connection flights, except for one of them, I couldn't seem to get all direct flights for a decent price.

I was in Mexico City, now Panama, Lima Peru for my first time is next, then Quito for my first time, then to Colombia via Bogota for 2 weeks, I'll probably make it to Medellin also, then San Jose, Costa Rica for just a few days, I've been there before and I didn't think it was so special. And then back to Mexico City for a few days and back to California. All of that was about $1,700. But I still need to go from Bogota to Medellin and maybe Cartagena (I never been there), and I want to see Machu Picchu, so I need to book a tour, or buy all of the tickets separately, I need to do that soon, I know there are limits as to how many people can see Machu Picchu daily. After Christmas I'll probably a tour of Asia.

I hope to cross paths with you again. What are some areas you might be going to next?

CrazyCouple7
09-16-14, 12:02
Just finally joined, but used this site many times before for research. Thought I should contribute a little.

Wife and I just got back from Veneto a few days ago. We had a lot of fun but was only there for 3 nights. We tried to get into La Bocatoreno but they would not let my wife in (no ladies allowed), so we walked next door and spent a few hours drinking in La Mayor. We did not attempt to take any girls, but enjoyed the $1. 75 beers while hanging out after walking around Casco Viejo. This place is not that bad at all. We have been to worse clubs in the US. The quality of women was not that great, but there were a couple we would have banged after some more alcohol. Decided not to attempt it and just wait until later back at hotel.

We took a gorgeous little 22 yo Colombian girl, from casino, that spoke excellent English for $120. She sat and talked to us for a 2-3 hours before we even made it up to the room. We had a blast with her and she was very bi and up for anything that we wanted to do. Her name was Sara if you run into her she is a real sweetheart.

The other girl we took was a 19 yo Venezuelan for $110, but spoke no English and do not remember her name. We were pretty trashed this night and got back to room with her 3 am after drinking heavily since 6 pm. I did not have any condoms, which I always have with me, and she did not have any either. Well little head got the better of me and I asked if it was OK as long as I pull out before cum. To our surprise she said OK. We went at it with her for a very long time and had a lot of fun again. Not my smartest moment in life but to late now.

We usually go to Pattaya, which is much cheaper. However, we had a blast in Panama and the 2 ladies we chose were an absolute blast and very attentive to my wife. She has a knack for knowing the truly bi girls and we end up with good experiences 99% of the time. I know not many couples here but there are some that want the info I am sure. We had a few ask us for $200, but we just moved on quickly.

WorldWideScout
09-18-14, 00:26
La Bocat. Is AWESOME.

I might have seen a flook day but at around noon there were probably 30 girls standing around just waiting to get fucked in the back! And the music is killer. I took sinus meds in the am so I wasn't exactly a stallion but I talked to this skinny colombian girl and fast forward about 55 seconds and she is working hard to blow, handj, fuck, ride, etc etc! $15 (well 30, I had her for about 30 min before we gave up, $15 buys all of like 12 min keep in mind). After a while though we give up on me finishing I tell her ill come back later for her. I go back out to the bar sit at a table, it looks like the old fucking west but instead of playing cards, guys are on poker machines or just sitting there. Again the music rocks, almost exactly the playlist in my car and it is only like 1 pm. So I sit down and look at all these hot girls just walking or standing waiting for action. I figure I should go get some coconut water or something to try to get the blood flowing again to try another one. I leave and go to a convenient store where I watch a sexy skinny chinese chick chew out some dude in spanish! I think he overcharged her for a delivery of bananas. I watched her while drinking some water for a long time, totally worked to turn me on. I go back in the bar sit down and jam out to music, watching the girls waiting to see if one got me hard just by looking at her. Eventually a beautiful spinner with hair down to her ass and perfect skin starts smiling at me. It was full so I was sitting with strangers at a table with some random thugs and they applauded me for getting up to go bang that girl. She was talented. After I came, she was all "thanks! Was a pleasure" quickly fixed herself up and went out for more.

In the time I was in back with this girl the population exploded. No kidding must have been 50 girls, you couldn't move. It is about 230 pm. Easily a 5:1 girl to guy ratio, the vast majority of them 7's or above somehow! Problem is when you finish with a girl, you walk back through the bar and see another one you want to fuck. A fat one tried to get me to go back with her but I explained I just finished and need time to recover, so then she started begging me for a dollar.

The music turned into to that slow accordian polka they like to play and was making me sleepy. But when I tried to leave it became apparent that it had rained hard while I was with girl#2 and the streets flashflooded a bit. Now I am sort of trapped with dozens of girls willing to do anything for not much in return. But my dick is done. I walk around and see a back room and it too is full of girls! Two of them so hot I regretted my girl#2 decision (a little, girl#2 was really great).

Eventually I had a craving for fresh ceviche and walked out in the rain to get some, befriending a sleazy coconut water salesman on the way who gave me free refills as we shot the shit and gawked at hot girls walking in the rain.

Mellowg
09-21-14, 21:27
Well, last night, Saturday, I aimed toward the "New Gruta Azul" on north side of Via Espana and about 150 mtrs from "12 de octubre" road. Large fluorescent blue sign you cannot miss it.

I was a little apprehensive about entering on my own as the club is well hidden behind a privacy wall and it is difficult to see even if there are any cars on their lot. Also I am totally unable to pass for a local, 66, blond gray hair and north European looking.

Once the nose of the car was passed the privacy wall, I was able to see about 30 cars, decent lighting in the parking. Things seemed to improve security wise.

I was patted down by the bouncer, paid my us $2. 00 cover charge, and proceeded to walk the outside patio area. There are plenty of chairs and table should one decide to relax so as to get away from the music and people inside the club. Waitress service is available, and the place frankly is somewhat appealing.

Pass the club doors, you encounter a large hall, must be some 40 tables for 4, a small bar seating maybe 7 on fixed stools, a central stage with the ever present dancing pole (the girls I saw on stage did not have any ideas what to do with the pole, not one gymnast in that lot). Loud music and lots of people. Beer is us $3. Subida is us $20 for the 15 minutes.

Must have been some 100 men being welcomed by about 20 chicas, what do you want it was Saturday.

The girls are for all taste. Dressed mainly in lingeries, they are not aggressive, preferring to sit down until called over. Personally I only saw two flacas I would have entertained but I am getting difficult and selective in my old age.

Would I go back? Yes, I did not feel threaten, it seems like a good place to have a beer, makes a change from the Veneto and Habanos.

The girls, nahh not my style. When you think of it Venetos' ladies go for $80 to $100. The Grutas at $20 for 15 minutes make 60 an hour. I prefer the selection at the Veneto.

Enjoy.

Mellow.

MarianoRiv
09-21-14, 22:52
Hi,

I'm pretty new to mongering, so I gravitate (for now) to venues that seem "user-friendly" to me. So. I recently spent a few nights at the Veneto, and I appreciated the convenience of having all those ladies right on the premises. It sure does make things easy! Unfortunately, I didn't make it to any other places that are more locals-oriented (such as the New Gruta Azul or La Bocatorena), but I do plan to go there in the future. I stopped in Habano's one night and saw some stunners, and thought it would be very cool if the Marriott Hotel across the street was chica-friendly, but according to reports here, they are not. (Which seems a real shame, so then Veneto is the only hotel in town with a great set-up?) I did take a Panamanian chica, post-session, to the disco called Ashe, (or Asche? I forget the spelling) on Calle Uruguay, and saw a lot of stunning Colombianas working, on a Friday or Sat night. I talked to one of them, but she asked for $200 for an hour, or $500 for TLN, at which point I went back over to the gal I came in with. (She was $100, from Veneto casino).

So this leads me to a question about some of the very pretty Colombianas in Veneto (or Habano's, or Ashe). It seemed that the hot ones were not shy about asking for $200/ hr. So then I would ask, well, how about $100?, and she would say, Maybe $150? So what is the deal on the pricing? What's the fair and accurate price at these places? $200 seems way too high, and $150 seems too high as well. Do you find that they'll take $100 (such as a couple of the Panamanians I was with). Or $125 or something similar? Or will those hottest ones always hold out for the $150? I think it's fair to say that $150 is higher than it "should" be, relative to other costs in Panama City (such as $3 taxi rides, $2 beers, $1. 50 for ceviche at the fish market, etc.).

Thanks in advance for your opinions!

Biff Dangler
09-22-14, 02:35
Hi,

I'm pretty new to mongering, so I gravitate (for now) to venues that seem "user-friendly" to me. So. I recently spent a few nights at the Veneto, and I appreciated the convenience of having all those ladies right on the premises. It sure does make things easy! Unfortunately, I didn't make it to any other places that are more locals-oriented (such as the New Gruta Azul or La Bocatorena), but I do plan to go there in the future. I stopped in Habano's one night and saw some stunners, and thought it would be very cool if the Marriott Hotel across the street was chica-friendly, but according to reports here, they are not. (Which seems a real shame, so then Veneto is the only hotel in town with a great set-up?) I did take a Panamanian chica, post-session, to the disco called Ashe, (or Asche? I forget the spelling) on Calle Uruguay, and saw a lot of stunning Colombianas working, on a Friday or Sat night. I talked to one of them, but she asked for $200 for an hour, or $500 for TLN, at which point I went back over to the gal I came in with. (She was $100, from Veneto casino).

So this leads me to a question about some of the very pretty Colombianas in Veneto (or Habano's, or Ashe). It seemed that the hot ones were not shy about asking for $200/ hr. So then I would ask, well, how about $100?, and she would say, Maybe $150? So what is the deal on the pricing? What's the fair and accurate price at these places? $200 seems way too high, and $150 seems too high as well. Do you find that they'll take $100 (such as a couple of the Panamanians I was with). Or $125 or something similar? Or will those hottest ones always hold out for the $150? I think it's fair to say that $150 is higher than it "should" be, relative to other costs in Panama City (such as $3 taxi rides, $2 beers, $1. 50 for ceviche at the fish market, etc.).

Thanks in advance for your opinions!Almost every one of them will do it for 100, and I have gotten many for 60-80. I pair 200 once. Just once. Which I am about to write about in a few minutes.

Biff Dangler
09-22-14, 02:58
So, I have a strong bias against paying up for chicas. I have been coming to PTY for years (and now live here) and have never paid more than $100 for the girls at Habanos or Veneto. Those of you who are regulars know that for the last year or so a Ukrainian girl who in my opinion is one of the prettiest women on the planet has been getting away with charging guys 250-300.

I've talked to her quite a bit for the last year but could never get her off those high prices.

Let me tell you about last night however:

I started drinking at happy hour at Mendoza's on Via Argentina. The owner of relax oriental massage hangs out there and we have a beer together now and then and that is my normal happy hour hang out. Anyway, I wasn't really in the mood to do much but met some interesting people who had never heard of Habanos and like a true gentlemen I decided to walk them there.

Walking people to Habanos if one of my favorite things to do (especially young guys I meet at Veneto). They are always fucking amazed and then start showering me with free drinks. I think my purpose on earth is perhaps to introduce people to Habanos.

Anyway, I only recently got back into town after a couple of months in Europe and ran into the Ukrainian chick there. We caught up a little bit, etc. She of course tries to get me to leave with her at which point I say her prices are just too high. She says "for you, 200". I said yeah, but then there is the cab rides, hotel room, etc. She says "I'll take care of that".

I say "ok". So instead of driving to the usual places we walk to the left out of Habanos and then the first left. Hotel a few buildings down on the left.

Anyway, what can I say? It was truly the single best sexual experience I have had in my life. Usually when a chick does the GFE thing it doesn't work on me because it is unconvincing. In addition to being so gorgeous and skilled at her job she completely and totally had me in a fantasy land as if she was the sole woman on the planet and myself the sole man. It was really that good.

Damn, I am thinking of cutting out all of my other activities just to budget more time with her.

Anyway, after that I went back to Relax and got a BJ there.

TellAll
09-22-14, 03:52
Hi,
So this leads me to a question about some of the very pretty Colombianas in Veneto (or Habano's, or Ashe). It seemed that the hot ones were not shy about asking for $200/ hr. So then I would ask, well, how about $100?, and she would say, Maybe $150? So what is the deal on the pricing? What's the fair and accurate price at these places? $200 seems way too high, and $150 seems too high as well. Do you find that they'll take $100 (such as a couple of the Panamanians I was with). Or $125 or something similar? Or will those hottest ones always hold out for the $150? I think it's fair to say that $150 is higher than it "should" be, relative to other costs in Panama City (such as $3 taxi rides, $2 beers, $1. 50 for ceviche at the fish market, etc.).

Thanks in advance for your opinions!They ask for 200 and 150 because Dumb Asses out there pay it. I have gotten them out of Venetos and Habanos for less then 100 and there is nothing special about me except, I have the money and the balls to tell them hell no when the price is to high.

HectorPF
09-23-14, 03:17
Nice report Biff. I have actually seen that Ukranian chick around. I myself prefer the LatAm girls while in LatAm, but she does look like a gem. Is there a group of Ukranians or is she rolling solo?

MarianoRiv
09-23-14, 07:14
Thanks guys, for the information. I was a dumbass and gave a few Colombianas $150. Damn it. It was just too easy to accept that $150 price and run with it. Although I can say that they all asked for a "propina" (tip), afterwards, which I declined to give them, since I thought that the $150 was more than enough.

Biff the, it sounds like you found a great one! Thanks for sharing! Interesting stuff! Sounds like you got good value at $200! Better value than the Colombianas I was with.

Biff Dangler
09-23-14, 12:55
Nice report Biff. I have actually seen that Ukranian chick around. I myself prefer the LatAm girls while in LatAm, but she does look like a gem. Is there a group of Ukranians or is she rolling solo?She rolls solo.

Meanwhile I went out Monday night. Veneto was pretty lame. Habanos better as always. There was one smoking hot black chick that I would have banged if it were a Saturday night or something but I didn't want to be out late or anything. So I went to relax and was 69 ing with this chick who had a nice pussy. List price is 80, whether or not I had a discount because I drink beer with the owner is not something I should really elaborate on. There were two girls at relax (on a Saturday there are usually like 5). One was like an 8, the other like a 6. In my younger days I would have gone with the 8 based on looks but she wasn't really making eye contact or anything. Meanwhile the 6 was looking pretty damn enthusiastic so I went with her.

Good choice.

Wrong Places
09-23-14, 17:10
Well, last night, Saturday, I aimed toward the "New Gruta Azul" on north side of Via Espana and about 150 mtrs from "12 de octubre" road. Large fluorescent blue sign you cannot miss it.

MellowI was also there for the first time on Saturday evening, around 10:00 pm. There was abut a 1:1 M / F ratio at that time. The women were very passive. I was there with a gringo friend who is normally well-loved by Latinas and we didn't have anyone approach us. In fact, I didn't see any girl approach any guy. You can think of the place as a much upscale version of La Mayor or other similar clubs in that neighborhood. Almost everyone sitting at tables and very little mixing and mingling. And an occasional girl half-heartedly working the pole on the stage. For those who like that kind of a club, it's the nicest one of that kind of thing I've been to in PC. The girls were generally good looking, I don't do number ratings because they're so subjective. Nearly all appeared to be in their 20's or very early 30's. All silicone-filled, some both upstairs and downstairs. They also all had that hardened working-girl look to them. You won't find anyone just out of her Colombian village at this place.

Both of us preferring a mix and mingle atmosphere, we then went to Boca. I hadn't been for over a year but recognized several women. The best looking one in the place was young with enhanced boobs and a classic Latina butt. The longest time I saw her out of the back rooms between clients was about ten seconds. I once saw her get no more than six steps into the bar before she was grabbed by another guy. With another guy following just in case the first one didn't have his $15. I hope she was hitting them up for tips as that's a tough way to make $40 an hour. One of the pleasures of Boca is walking around flirting and playing grabass with the girls. No Spanish required, just a couple pictures of George Washington and many of the girls will go for a little discreet groping in the bar areas. I've found this to work most reliably with the older ones. Personally, I enjoy being able to walk around to the girls to be much more fun than sitting at a table so I'll keep going back to Boca.

And to touch on something that's been discussed here, Boca, and La Mayor next door, are perfectly safe, even at 2:00 am. If you want to save the "gringo getting laid" outrageous cab fares, have the driver take you to Habana, which is a big dance club about a block and a half further along the way to Casco Viejo. Then just walk back the way you came. You'll recognize Boca with all of the food vendors outside.

Combo
09-23-14, 17:18
Thanks, guys, for the information. I was a dumbass and gave a few Colombianas $150. Damn it. It was just too easy to accept that $150 price and run with it. Although I can say that they all asked for a "propina" (tip), afterwards, which I declined to give them, since I thought that the $150 was more than enough.

Biff the, it sounds like you found a great one! Thanks for sharing! Interesting stuff! Sounds like you got good value at $200! Better value than the Colombianas I was with.Of course they asked for a propina! They figured if you were foolish enough to give them $150, you'd be foolish enough to add a propina.

I'm not trying to be an asshole. I enjoyed your report.

But girls will ask for as much as they think the market will bear (like any supplier of a service). And if they get the feeling that you don't know the scene, they will start their "asking price" really high, hoping they might just get that one sucker that will go for it.

El Patron24
09-23-14, 22:18
I was also there for the first time on Saturday evening, around 10:00 pm. There was abut a 1:1 M / F ratio at that time. The women were very passive. I was there with a gringo friend who is normally well-loved by Latinas and we didn't have anyone approach us. In fact, I didn't see any girl approach any guy. You can think of the place as a much upscale version of La Mayor or other similar clubs in that neighborhood. Almost everyone sitting at tables and very little mixing and mingling. And an occasional girl half-heartedly working the pole on the stage. For those who like that kind of a club, it's the nicest one of that kind of thing I've been to in PC. The girls were generally good looking, I don't do number ratings because they're so subjective. Nearly all appeared to be in their 20's or very early 30's. All silicone-filled, some both upstairs and downstairs. They also all had that hardened working-girl look to them. You won't find anyone just out of her Colombian village at this place.

Both of us preferring a mix and mingle atmosphere, we then went to Boca. I hadn't been for over a year but recognized several women. The best looking one in the place was young with enhanced boobs and a classic Latina butt. The longest time I saw her out of the back rooms between clients was about ten seconds. I once saw her get no more than six steps into the bar before she was grabbed by another guy. With another guy following just in case the first one didn't have his $15. I hope she was hitting them up for tips as that's a tough way to make $40 an hour. One of the pleasures of Boca is walking around flirting and playing grabass with the girls. No Spanish required, just a couple pictures of George Washington and many of the girls will go for a little discreet groping in the bar areas. I've found this to work most reliably with the older ones. Personally, I enjoy being able to walk around to the girls to be much more fun than sitting at a table so I'll keep going back to Boca.

And to touch on something that's been discussed here, Boca, and La Mayor next door, are perfectly safe, even at 2:00 am. If you want to save the "gringo getting laid" outrageous cab fares, have the driver take you to Habana, which is a big dance club about a block and a half further along the way to Casco Viejo. Then just walk back the way you came. You'll recognize Boca with all of the food vendors outside.Is Boca local Pana girls or mainly Colombians? I have yet to check it out but would like to.

Mfins
09-24-14, 05:43
So, I have a strong bias against paying up for chicas. I have been coming to PTY for years (and now live here) and have never paid more than $100 for the girls at Habanos or Veneto. Those of you who are regulars know that for the last year or so a Ukrainian girl who in my opinion is one of the prettiest women on the planet has been getting away with charging guys 250-300.

I've talked to her quite a bit for the last year but could never get her off those high prices.

Let me tell you about last night however:

I started drinking at happy hour at Mendoza's on Via Argentina. The owner of relax oriental massage hangs out there and we have a beer together now and then and that is my normal happy hour hang out. Anyway, I wasn't really in the mood to do much but met some interesting people who had never heard of Habanos and like a true gentlemen I decided to walk them there.

Walking people to Habanos if one of my favorite things to do (especially young guys I meet at Veneto). They are always fucking amazed and then start showering me with free drinks. I think my purpose on earth is perhaps to introduce people to Habanos.

Anyway, I only recently got back into town after a couple of months in Europe and ran into the Ukrainian chick there. We caught up a little bit, etc. She of course tries to get me to leave with her at which point I say her prices are just too high. She says "for you, 200". I said yeah, but then there is the cab rides, hotel room, etc. She says "I'll take care of that".

I say "ok". So instead of driving to the usual places we walk to the left out of Habanos and then the first left. Hotel a few buildings down on the left.

Anyway, what can I say? It was truly the single best sexual experience I have had in my life. Usually when a chick does the GFE thing it doesn't work on me because it is unconvincing. In addition to being so gorgeous and skilled at her job she completely and totally had me in a fantasy land as if she was the sole woman on the planet and myself the sole man. It was really that good.

Damn, I am thinking of cutting out all of my other activities just to budget more time with her.

Anyway, after that I went back to Relax and got a BJ there.I know the Ukranian also. However, I have never sessioned with her. She used to work in Playa Del Carmen Mexico at a place called Chilly Willy's. I new her from there and now she has been working in Panama for over a year more or less. Biff I am glad you were able to finally partake and it was a good time. I was sitting at Habanos one night for about 6 hours watching the action and drinking and my friend and I saw her come and go with 5 different guys within the time we were there. The next time I saw her at Habanos and I was catching up with her and asked her what the Maximum number of Clients she has had in a night and she said 9 was the most. She could have had 10 but, was exhausted. That girl makes some $$.

MarianoRiv
09-24-14, 06:00
Of course they asked for a propina! They figured if you were foolish enough to give them $150, you'd be foolish enough to add a propina.

I'm not trying to be an asshole. I enjoyed your report.

But girls will ask for as much as they think the market will bear (like any supplier of a service). And if they get the feeling that you don't know the scene, they will start their "asking price" really high, hoping they might just get that one sucker that will go for it.Yes indeed, it is interesting and true what you say. Next time I will do more research beforehand, and try out some of those cheaper places that the locals go to, as well! I do feel like I got beat out of $100-200, and that is upsetting, but I will try to get over it.

It's interesting to me how the gals did not seem to think (or care) if they might be perceived as greedy for asking for a propina! They don't really mind how they are perceived, do they? It's like they don't have strong self-awareness, or don't care! And to be fair, 2 of the gals did put in some effort. Like this one chica who got some weed out of her purse, and we smoked in the bathroom, with the fan on. She was cool.

But yeah, it pays to do the homework beforehand. I will definitely do that if I ever to go Asia. (I've never been! Yet!

MarianoRiv
09-24-14, 07:57
I know the Ukranian also. However, I have never sessioned with her. She used to work in Playa Del Carmen Mexico at a place called Chilly Willy's. I new her from there and now she has been working in Panama for over a year more or less. Biff I am glad you were able to finally partake and it was a good time. I was sitting at Habanos one night for about 6 hours watching the action and drinking and my friend and I saw her come and go with 5 different guys within the time we were there. The next time I saw her at Habanos and I was catching up with her and asked her what the Maximum number of Clients she has had in a night and she said 9 was the most. She could have had 10 but, was exhausted. That girl makes some $$.Hey, now that is a wee bit disturbing! I mean, it is slightly disturbing to think that she has had hundreds (or thousands) of dicks inside of her. I mean, I don't want to disparage her for turning lots of tricks and having a net worth of, what, $100 k USD? $200 k USD?? That is wonderful that she was able to generate some net worth (if she actually did) from turning tricks. But come on, now. All of a sudden, her value (to me) has plummeted because she has banged so many guys.

Surely I can't be the only dude who finds it off-putting if a gal has fucked a thousand guys?

What sayeth the experts? Do you guys care how many guys the ho has banged? Or no? What is the consensus on this matter?

I am sure the woman is beautiful. That is not the issue. The issue is the number of dicks that have entered the pussy. That is very problematic, in my humble opinion.

MarianoRiv
09-24-14, 08:41
I know the Ukranian also. However, I have never sessioned with her. She used to work in Playa Del Carmen Mexico at a place called Chilly Willy's. I new her from there and now she has been working in Panama for over a year more or less. Biff I am glad you were able to finally partake and it was a good time. I was sitting at Habanos one night for about 6 hours watching the action and drinking and my friend and I saw her come and go with 5 different guys within the time we were there. The next time I saw her at Habanos and I was catching up with her and asked her what the Maximum number of Clients she has had in a night and she said 9 was the most. She could have had 10 but, was exhausted. That girl makes some $$.If I may be so bold as to comment on some of the above terminology, often employed, it is somewhat amusing to read something like the above, "I have never sessioned with her. " This is hilarious, because it is so vague! I mean, of course, everyone understands what it means, but it just cracks me up because I could never say "I sessioned with her" instead of, "I fucked her" or "I had sex with her"! Ha!

I guess it is just a special part of the monger culture that I will have to adapt to! After all, mongers are just a wee bit "special"!

Mellowg
09-24-14, 19:41
Surely I can't be the only dude who finds it off-putting if a gal has fucked a thousand guys?

I am sure the woman is beautiful. That is not the issue. The issue is the number of dicks that have entered the pussy. That is very problematic, in my humble opinion.In my humble opinion, it would be naive to think a pro would limit the number of customers satisfied per night. She will do as many as there are available and willing customer around.

If one has hung around in those meeting places, and observed the business, one never sees a pro limit herself to x number of customer per night. It is more a question of running out of customers.

I think it would be less than realistic to expect a girl (from streetwalker to posh salon) who has been on the market for a few years to have had less than a few thousand encounters with Mr. Big (or small as the case might be), or else she is in the wrong business.

Remember, a thousand a year is less than 3 customers a night.

I assume a newbie who walks in the DelRey in Costa Rica or the Veneto or Habanos here in Panama is soooo blinded by his surroundings that he sees none of that.

Mellow.

Biff Dangler
09-24-14, 19:44
Hey, now that is a wee bit disturbing! I mean, it is slightly disturbing to think that she has had hundreds (or thousands) of dicks inside of her. I mean, I don't want to disparage her for turning lots of tricks and having a net worth of, what, $100 k USD? $200 k USD?? That is wonderful that she was able to generate some net worth (if she actually did) from turning tricks. But come on, now. All of a sudden, her value (to me) has plummeted because she has banged so many guys.

Surely I can't be the only dude who finds it off-putting if a gal has fucked a thousand guys?

What sayeth the experts? Do you guys care how many guys the ho has banged? Or no? What is the consensus on this matter?

I am sure the woman is beautiful. That is not the issue. The issue is the number of dicks that have entered the pussy. That is very problematic, in my humble opinion.When I was a younger man things like that used to bother me whether if we were talking pros or girlfriends / hookups. It's a TOTAL waste of your mental energy to care or speculate on how many dicks a woman as had inside of here. First of all on the pros who gives a shit if the number is 200-500-1000? Those Colombia chicks at Habanos were all getting fucked in Colombia long before they came here. Just assume every working girl has fucked 1,000+ guys as it is probably true.

With dating it's the same thing. Girls fuck a lot more dudes than they let on. But the essentially point is this: who cares? Don't you like a confident chick in the sack who knows what she wants and knows how to please you?

Chicks aren't your property, it's not like a new vs. Used car. And besides whether they are a new or used car their fucking engines are broken and need repair every day anyway no matter how used they are. You don't want to own them, just borrow them for an hour.

El Patron24
09-24-14, 20:01
Hey, now that is a wee bit disturbing! I mean, it is slightly disturbing to think that she has had hundreds (or thousands) of dicks inside of her. I mean, I don't want to disparage her for turning lots of tricks and having a net worth of, what, $100 k USD? $200 k USD?? That is wonderful that she was able to generate some net worth (if she actually did) from turning tricks. But come on, now. All of a sudden, her value (to me) has plummeted because she has banged so many guys.

Surely I can't be the only dude who finds it off-putting if a gal has fucked a thousand guys?

What sayeth the experts? Do you guys care how many guys the ho has banged? Or no? What is the consensus on this matter?

I am sure the woman is beautiful. That is not the issue. The issue is the number of dicks that have entered the pussy. That is very problematic, in my humble opinion.I think anytime you approach a working girl you have to assume that she has banged thousands of dudes. That is her profession. Why would she not have a goal in her career to bang every dude in the city for cash?

I think all guys like to pretend that the girl they are hitting at that moment just does it on the side, from time to time. The truth is she probably has some type of boyfriend who is banging her. Then if she is strapped for cash she is at a sleezy club in the day getting banged by locals. Then she gets all dolled up at night with a new attitude and jacks her prices up for the foreigners.

If she isn't banging 5 guys a day on a standard day then she isn't working very hard is she? These girls can't survive on one guy a day. If they could bang 24 in a day. I don't think very many of them would have a problem with that.

Now keep in mind there are likely girls who have kids or shitty jobs and then go out and bang one or two guys for pay.

Can we really trust any of these girls to know the difference?

Dickhead
09-25-14, 00:53
On the one hand, if you are worried about how many other guys your hooker has fucked, mongering may not be for you. On the other hand, you'll probably get over it. I knew a gringo in Argentina who used to take his own sheets to the private apartments. He got over it.

Mfins
09-25-14, 03:35
I kind of go by the motto " If I didn't see it than it didn't happen" Meaning if I didn't see the girl leave with a guy or guys, and / or I have no first hand knowledge that the girl actually banged someone than my mind doesn't even think that the pro. Has been with multiple clients.

Now of course I realize I am just tricking my mind into thinking that way and rationally I realize the girl has had hundreds or thousands of clients in her life but its what keeps me playing this game we all enjoy.

Also, If I like the girl I tend to force my self to believe when a girl tells me " I have only been working here two weeks or, I have never done this before". It makes things in my mind better.

No guy wants to think about or know that a girl has taken 1000's of dicks in her life when he is laying pipe.

Just have to trick your mind somehow.

Viva Chicas
09-25-14, 04:46
If the girl has had sex with 200 or 2,000+ guys does it matter? Once she takes a shower and washes her cuca it is as good as new.
I think it is just a mental game that guys play to pretend their puta is more innocent than another puta. To be the first of the day,
would be a worthy goal and that makes some sense. If you actually know the girl, and the lifestyle she lives, or if she has a Colombiano.
for a boyfriend living with her, it gives you better odds of getting a fresh cuca for that day.
Living in Panama has been a great advantage. I am actually friends with some of the girls and that gives you the key to knowing what,
actually goes on. Some things are just amazing and hard to believe. And everyday is a new adventure. The Colombianas are there to
make money, and no, they do not love you. Just enjoy it for what it is, a nice diversion from reality.

Combo
09-25-14, 04:48
Yes indeed, it is interesting and true what you say. Next time I will do more research beforehand, and try out some of those cheaper places that the locals go to, as well! I do feel like I got beat out of $100-200, and that is upsetting, but I will try to get over it.

It's interesting to me how the gals did not seem to think (or care) if they might be perceived as greedy for asking for a propina! They don't really mind how they are perceived, do they? It's like they don't have strong self-awareness, or don't care! And to be fair, 2 of the gals did put in some effort. Like this one chica who got some weed out of her purse, and we smoked in the bathroom, with the fan on. She was cool.

But yeah, it pays to do the homework beforehand. I will definitely do that if I ever to go Asia. (I've never been! Yet!It's a learning experience!

Biff Dangler
09-25-14, 13:55
Living in Panama has been a great advantage. I am actually friends with some of the girls and that gives you the key to knowing what, actually goes on. Some things are just amazing and hard to believe. And everyday is a new adventure. The Colombianas are there to make money, and no, they do not love you. Just enjoy it for what it is, a nice diversion from reality.Question for you: Do you know any non-pro Colombianas in Panama? I know a single mom who has a real job at a real estate firm (I've independently verified this). Every morning she wakes up and brings her kid to school, goes to work down on Balboa, walks home, etc. That's her life.

I do not at this point have any sort of sexual relationship with her.

I am a naturally skeptical person and protective of myself, but the question is with her being a Colombiana should I be naturally extra skeptical of her and the things she says?

Mfins
09-26-14, 03:27
I will be there this weekend. Does anyone know if this hotel is chica friendly. Rates are really good.

Grand International Hotel.

Via Argentina con calle Jose Marti- El Cangrejo - 00000 Panama City.

Mfins
09-26-14, 03:55
The Veneto is having another fall sale, last year around this time I booked for 45 dollars a night via Expedia and right now its down to as low as 34 dollars a night for some nights in October and November. Check expedia.com for more details.I checked this as I will be down there this weekend. Not sure how people are getting $40-$50 rates at Veneto. I have never seen it less than about $89 a night plus tax including this weekend. Whats the trick?

Mfins
09-26-14, 04:20
If she isn't banging 5 guys a day on a standard day then she isn't working very hard is she? These girls can't survive on one guy a day. If they could bang 24 in a day. I don't think very many of them would have a problem with that.

If we are referring to Habanos / Veneto girls than the average girl is bagging 3-4 clients a week. I have asked many of them over drinks and have gotten the same answer. I have also asked a quite unattractive Panamanian that works at Habanos and she said 1 is average and 2 if she is lucky per week but, $150-$300 a week is still way more than she could make working a job with having no education etc.
On the other end of the spectrum the hot Ukranian girl is averaging about 10-15 guys a week. Earning About $2000-$3000 a week. There are no girls at Habanos banging 5 guys a day. That would be making over 1/2 million a year, but I do understand your point.

Also, I know there are different tastes on these boards. Some guys can go to a casa, or a brothel walk in pay $20 get relieved and 15 minutes later leave satisfied. With no feelings involved in the process. Other guys want more of a connection. Even if it is for a short period of time. To each his own but, to basically tell a guy who wants a GFE to "get over it rent the girl for 30 minutes and move on" is missing the point of what some guys are looking for.

Biff Dangler
09-26-14, 13:34
I will be there this weekend. Does anyone know if this hotel is chica friendly. Rates are really good.

Grand International Hotel.

Via Argentina con calle Jose Marti- El Cangrejo - 00000 Panama City.When I was there they were not chica friendly, although I never really forced the issue. But great rates, and great location.

Biff Dangler
09-26-14, 13:35
I checked this as I will be down there this weekend. Not sure how people are getting $40-$50 rates at Veneto. I have never seen it less than about $89 a night plus tax including this weekend. Whats the trick?It seems to be a weekday thing. Years ago weeks were expensive and weekends cheap. It seems to be the opposite now.

Biff Dangler
09-26-14, 13:39
To each his own but, to basically tell a guy who wants a GFE to "get over it rent the girl for 30 minutes and move on" is missing the point of what some guys are looking for.You are entirely correct despite the fact that I was one of the guys who said rent and move on. I will add though that I was the same way when I started my mongering career. At the time I was going through a bad marriage / business, etc. And I deluded myself into thinking that the connection was available. It's not. It took me a few years to get over that and now I am a happier person in general and in mongering.

Mellowg
09-26-14, 20:13
We might need to agree as to what is a pro.

Same as with any kind of salesman I would employ. He / She needs to be somebody that could create traffic in my store / shop / etc. , and close the deal. And so it goes with the girl.

If she dresses like she was somewhere in the pueblo that she comes from, I doubt she will get many takes, if she just sits around and is more interested in reading her watsapp conversation or looking at photos of her family back home, if she stays sitting at the one-arm bandit all night and not moving around starting conversations and approaching customers, if she does not know how to sell her product through her words and mannerism when some fish has bitten on her hook. She is not a pro.

If she dresses to attract, not cheap (commensurate to the environment she is working at). If she has a time limit to allow you to sink your teeth in her hook and make you take the deal, if she has presence, if she WORKS at it. Then she might be considered a pro.

Granted some girls at Habanos or Veneto are not pros and never will be. But those that are work on their turn-over do have more than one customer a night, sometime many more.

Same as any saleman, some are, many are not.

It is a matter of opinion.

Tequila Tim
09-26-14, 22:48
It seems to be a weekday thing. Years ago weeks were expensive and weekends cheap. It seems to be the opposite now.Thanks for the tip. Just booked 2 nights over Veteran's Day holiday (Sun and Mon) for $44/ night (Inc taxes) on orbit_z. Weekends more so staying at Hampton by Hilton. Only 5 K Hilton points per night. Has anyone stayed here before? Girl friendly?

Wrong Places
09-27-14, 20:48
This is probably a question for those of you who live in PC and really get around. There is a four story building at the corner of Av Central / Via Espana and Calle L. It's one block south of the viaduct, where Via Espana becomes Av Central. The front corner of the building is rounded and there's a Dynasty department store in the ground floor. There is a yellow painted doorway and stairs to the left of the last window of the Dynasty store on Av Central. This allows you to walk up to the apartments above.

When a friend last visited it with some locals in 2012, the upper three floors were apartments where the women did business. Each apartment was fitted with a normal wooden door, and a "jail door" with widely spaced bars. If the girls are working, the wooden door will be open, and you can look through the bars of the "jail door" to see who's who. The girls frequently sit just inside the door to facilitate this. The price in 2012 was $12 for 15 minutes. There can be anywhere from 1 to 4 girls in an apartment. Despite the low rates and the questionable location, there were some decent looking women there, about the same selection you'd see at Boca.

Here's the question, is this place still in business and has anyone been there recently? I rode by in a taxi last weekend and there were lights on upstairs but I couldn't tell anything beyond that.

Biff Dangler
09-28-14, 15:40
So last night me and 4 other guys went out. Started out Happy hour at Mendozas. Around 9 pm we went to dublinia on Calle 50 next to hooters. Some nights there are lots of chicks hanging out. Last night was just 20-20.

Then we went to Club Peru 37 in Bella Vista. Always a good place. Cheap beer in a shady neighborhood. All of the waitresses and many of the customers are available. We hung out for a bit then went to Gruta Azul for the first time.

I'm not sure what to think about it really. On the one hand it was perfectly, safe, clean, etc. On the other hand there must have been 150 or more dudes there with I guess 15 chicks working. It's a real pussy carousel. There was a stage but nobody dancing. All of the girls were decent enough with a few outstanding ones. I went back with one of the outstanding ones "Joheylin" from Nicaragua. Really hot. I elected for $40 for 30 minutes. She claims she has been there a week. We went back to her room where she apparently lives. It was really quite good given the price. I asked her how much to take her out of there and she said $150 for four hours. I got her number. If I ever do anything with it I will report back. $5 cab ride back to Via Argentina.

El Patron24
09-28-14, 17:40
If we are referring to Habanos / Veneto girls than the average girl is bagging 3-4 clients a week. I have asked many of them over drinks and have gotten the same answer. I have also asked a quite unattractive Panamanian that works at Habanos and she said 1 is average and 2 if she is lucky per week but, $150-$300 a week is still way more than she could make working a job with having no education etc.
On the other end of the spectrum the hot Ukranian girl is averaging about 10-15 guys a week. Earning About $2000-$3000 a week. There are no girls at Habanos banging 5 guys a day. That would be making over 1/2 million a year, but I do understand your point.

Also, I know there are different tastes on these boards. Some guys can go to a casa, or a brothel walk in pay $20 get relieved and 15 minutes later leave satisfied. With no feelings involved in the process. Other guys want more of a connection. Even if it is for a short period of time. To each his own but, to basically tell a guy who wants a GFE to "get over it rent the girl for 30 minutes and move on" is missing the point of what some guys are looking for.If any tell you 3-4, then you should know it is at least 10. I think you are putting a little but too much trust into people. (by people I mean hookers) Just because you don't see them taking guys out from Habanos doesn't mean it doesn't happen. These girls get blown up on their WatsApp and are making arrangements just as easily on that now.

Few of the foreign girls lives year round in Panama. Most go back and forth to their families. Most Colombian Veneto and Habano chicks do 3 month stints in Panama and then go back. Usually until they need to make some more solid income. So I guess that is good news for you, since that would mean that a lot do not work year round. But who knows what they are doing at home. Likely the same thing, just for 1/3rd of the price!

Mfins
09-30-14, 04:22
If any tell you 3-4, then you should know it is at least 10. I think you are putting a little but too much trust into people. (by people I mean hookers) Just because you don't see them taking guys out from Habanos doesn't mean it doesn't happen. These girls get blown up on their WatsApp and are making arrangements just as easily on that now.

Few of the foreign girls lives year round in Panama. Most go back and forth to their families. Most Colombian Veneto and Habano chicks do 3 month stints in Panama and then go back. Usually until they need to make some more solid income. So I guess that is good news for you, since that would mean that a lot do not work year round. But who knows what they are doing at home. Likely the same thing, just for 1/3rd of the price!I was actually talking about girls who I have known for years that I would never session with and they know it. They have no reason to lie to me and I have heard the same numbers from many girls. I was just there this weekend and confirmed again. Also the girls usually stay there 6 months or more. Most year round with the mass exodus going back to Colombia at the end of November than returning mid January. But, really it doesn't matter one way or the other. I can tell you that my trip there this weekend the girls seemed extra business like. Quoting prices within 2 minutes of starting conversation unsolicted. . Also, 3 times I bought a girl a drink talked to them for 20 minutes or so than after realizing I was not going to session with them they asked for a tip each time. $20-$40 just for sitting there and talking to me. I politely refused each time. This seems like a fairly new tactic and is being practiced by all of the girls at Habanos. There were about 4 girls at Habanos who were 9's. Absolutely gorgeous and they seemed to know it and have the attitude to match. No eye contact, could care less to converse. I did stay at the Grand International Hotel. It was Chica friendly. No issue at all. Its a nice place and a great location for the money $43 per night. Newly renovated. Panama is fun and having a direct flight from Florida makes it easy to get to but, it still continues to be hit or miss.

Brother P
09-30-14, 06:32
I was actually talking about girls who I have known for years that I would never session with and they know it. They have no reason to lie to me and I have heard the same numbers from many girls. I was just there this weekend and confirmed again. Also the girls usually stay there 6 months or more. Most year round with the mass exodus going back to Colombia at the end of November than returning mid January. But, really it doesn't matter one way or the other. I can tell you that my trip there this weekend the girls seemed extra business like. Quoting prices within 2 minutes of starting conversation unsolicted. . Also, 3 times I bought a girl a drink talked to them for 20 minutes or so than after realizing I was not going to session with them they asked for a tip each time. $20-$40 just for sitting there and talking to me. I politely refused each time. This seems like a fairly new tactic and is being practiced by all of the girls at Habanos. There were about 4 girls at Habanos who were 9's. Absolutely gorgeous and they seemed to know it and have the attitude to match. No eye contact, could care less to converse. I did stay at the Grand International Hotel. It was Chica friendly. No issue at all. Its a nice place and a great location for the money $43 per night. Newly renovated. Panama is fun and having a direct flight from Florida makes it easy to get to but, it still continues to be hit or miss.How far from the Veneto is the Grand Hotel? Its a bad sign when chicas are asking to be compensated for having a conversation.

Mfins
10-07-14, 02:29
How far from the Veneto is the Grand Hotel? Its a bad sign when chicas are asking to be compensated for having a conversation.Its a 5 minute taxi ride from the hotel to Veneto.

Its a good hotel, great location and well worth $43 a night.

Biff Dangler
10-08-14, 00:40
Its a 5 minute taxi ride from the hotel to Veneto.

Its a good hotel, great location and well worth $43 a night.Do you have personal experience that it is girl friendly? I have stayed there and agree it is a great hotel and location for the price, but I am surprised that it is girl friendly. (I never tried when I stayed there).

Mfins
10-10-14, 03:35
Do you have personal experience that it is girl friendly? I have stayed there and agree it is a great hotel and location for the price, but I am surprised that it is girl friendly. (I never tried when I stayed there).Yes my friend and I visited for the weekend. When I booked It online I actually paid for 2 people per room (we had two rooms). It was a $10 more than if I would have only chosen a single person in each room.

That way if we brought a "guest" back later in the night I could tell them I paid extra for the additional person in advance. I guess I figured it would help my case If an issue arouse.

In addition when I checked into the hotel I specifically asked the Receptionist if it was okay to bring a "girl guest" later in the night. I asked him twice to be sure and HE said no problem.

However none of it mattered and in retrospect I should not have even selected and paid the upcharge when booking because both nights when my friend and I brought our guests back to the hotel no one at the hotel even batted an eye. I can not say for certain there policy is to be chica friendly but, it was not an issue at all for us.

Also my advice whether it be in Panama or anywhere else in the world when bringing a chica back to a hotel, do not be loud obnoxious act drunk or call attention to your self. Also, it helps If the girl does not look like a total prostitute with big tits and ass hanging out. Generally you will not be messed with by the hotel staff. Common sense I guess.

El Patron24
10-10-14, 19:49
Yes my friend and I visited for the weekend. When I booked It online I actually paid for 2 people per room (we had two rooms). It was a $10 more than if I would have only chosen a single person in each room.

That way if we brought a "guest" back later in the night I could tell them I paid extra for the additional person in advance. I guess I figured it would help my case If an issue arouse.

In addition when I checked into the hotel I specifically asked the Receptionist if it was okay to bring a "girl guest" later in the night. I asked him twice to be sure and HE said no problem.

However none of it mattered and in retrospect I should not have even selected and paid the upcharge when booking because both nights when my friend and I brought our guests back to the hotel no one at the hotel even batted an eye. I can not say for certain there policy is to be chica friendly but, it was not an issue at all for us.

Also my advice whether it be in Panama or anywhere else in the world when bringing a chica back to a hotel, do not be loud obnoxious act drunk or call attention to your self. Also, it helps If the girl does not look like a total prostitute with big tits and ass hanging out. Generally you will not be messed with by the hotel staff. Common sense I guess.I got a couple weeks in Panama coming up soon. I'll just double book hotels one of my first nights to try this place out. If it doesn't work ill always have another option. I think most of the hotel workers can spot a working girl from a mile away, so maybe they are just cool with it.

El Patron24
10-10-14, 19:59
So last night me and 4 other guys went out. Started out Happy hour at Mendozas. Around 9 pm we went to dublinia on Calle 50 next to hooters. Some nights there are lots of chicks hanging out. Last night was just 20-20.

Then we went to Club Peru 37 in Bella Vista. Always a good place. Cheap beer in a shady neighborhood. All of the waitresses and many of the customers are available. We hung out for a bit then went to Gruta Azul for the first time.

I'm not sure what to think about it really. On the one hand it was perfectly, safe, clean, etc. On the other hand there must have been 150 or more dudes there with I guess 15 chicks working. It's a real pussy carousel. There was a stage but nobody dancing. All of the girls were decent enough with a few outstanding ones. I went back with one of the outstanding ones "Joheylin" from Nicaragua. Really hot. I elected for $40 for 30 minutes. She claims she has been there a week. We went back to her room where she apparently lives. It was really quite good given the price. I asked her how much to take her out of there and she said $150 for four hours. I got her number. If I ever do anything with it I will report back. $5 cab ride back to Via Argentina.Oye Biff,

Lets meet up and party. I'll be around for a couple weeks. A couple hours of work during the weekdays and a lot of free time after. I have another compadre who will be around and I'm going to meet him at Mendozas and then head to Habanos the first night.

Biff Dangler
10-10-14, 21:50
Oye Biff,

Lets meet up and party. I'll be around for a couple weeks. A couple hours of work during the weekdays and a lot of free time after. I have another compadre who will be around and I'm going to meet him at Mendozas and then head to Habanos the first night.Ok let's do it.

Tp Horn
10-11-14, 06:30
I recently revisited several of the old spots.

1. Golden Time. I frequented this place in the 2005-2008 time frame and never had a complaint. This time, I paid $120 and selected a beautiful brunette paisa. Much more mechanical than the old days, even with the very friendly lead-in. Not bad, but not great either.

2. River Club. Nice option, recently remodeled, with a "bar" with a chance to chat up the gals. $80. I had a very, very enthusiastic chocolate dominicana. Excellent experience, gal loved the schlong. Entry foyer is remodeled, rooms not so much.

3. ? Damn, I can't remember the name of the place, on Via Porras, across from the Shell station, a couple blocks east of Via España. Selection was much, much better than it used to be. I chose a couple of panameñas, one blanca the otra chocolate and quite bisexual. Had a great time, at $100/ HR each. Again, I was surprised by the lineup, all thin and attractive, used to be mostly chubby gals. This place is very private, behind the tire shop, open 24 hrs.

Biff Dangler
10-11-14, 22:59
I recently revisited several of the old spots.

1. Golden Time. I frequented this place in the 2005-2008 time frame and never had a complaint. This time, I paid $120 and selected a beautiful brunette paisa. Much more mechanical than the old days, even with the very friendly lead-in. Not bad, but not great either.

2. River Club. Nice option, recently remodeled, with a "bar" with a chance to chat up the gals. $80. I had a very, very enthusiastic chocolate dominicana. Excellent experience, gal loved the schlong. Entry foyer is remodeled, rooms not so much.

3. ? Damn, I can't remember the name of the place, on Via Porras, across from the Shell station, a couple blocks east of Via Espaa. Selection was much, much better than it used to be. I chose a couple of panameas, one blanca the otra chocolate and quite bisexual. Had a great time, at $100/ HR each. Again, I was surprised by the lineup, all thin and attractive, used to be mostly chubby gals. This place is very private, behind the tire shop, open 24 hrs.I walk by River Club almost every day but have never been in. How is there even a bar in there? The place is tiny.

Tp Horn
10-12-14, 21:15
How is there even a bar in there? The place is tiny.It used to have a small entry foyer, with a desk, then a larger room behind where the gals hung out on one long L-shaped couch. Now most of those two rooms have been combined into a small bar, maybe 4 seats, and a small couch, capacity 10 - 15 people. The rooms are to the side of that, and extend much further than what may appear by the storefront.

Jhc1976
10-17-14, 18:57
Hello,

There are quite a lot of comments on here about hourly rates, but I haven't seen much info on all night / 24 hour deals. It'll be my first time in PTY and will probably won't be venturing much further than the Veneto and Habanos. What sort of prices should I be haggling for?

Thanks in advance,

Jack

HangerOne
10-18-14, 05:50
Hello,

There are quite a lot of comments on here about hourly rates, but I haven't seen much info on all night / 24 hour deals. It'll be my first time in PTY and will probably won't be venturing much further than the Veneto and Habanos. What sort of prices should I be haggling for?

Thanks in advance,

Jack.I've been quoted as high as 400 USD for TLN from a chick at the Veneto and as low as 120 USD. My last trip I met one and we seemed to have a good vibe and I asked her for TLN and she told me 200.00 which completely blew my mind. I was expecting a quote of at least 300 considering her looks, but supply and demand wins all the time. My recommendation would be to take them ST and test drive them first, if you like her then haggle TLN.

Biff Dangler
10-20-14, 14:17
OK, so me and a few guys went drinking last night at the Red Lion and then walked down to La Bocatorena. The place next door was closed sundays FYI.

First of all, there are ZERO safety issues walking from Red Lion to Bocatorena. Plenty of people all over the place. I was not concerned at all. I was also not concerned while inside.

So we walk in.

First impression: powerful stench of dried beer and vomit. It reminded me of my fraternity house on Sunday mornings. The place was jam packed with chicks and dudes. We went into the back room which was less crowded and less vomit smell.

Quite simply there were lots and lots of chicks, they ranged from 4's to 8's. A couple of the 8's were really cute.

Price is $15 for the girl and 5 for the room. I did not do anything as while I was there this regular chick of mine who knew I was at Red Lion (but I didn't think would show up) texted me from Red Lion saying "hey where are you?" and I had to go back. Of course I lied about where I was.

Anyway, after my last trip to Gruta Azul and now this trip I am firmly in the camp that I will never, ever, pay Veneto or Habanos prices again. It's just not worth it. I'll gladly take a notch down in quality in order to take an 80% reduction in both beer and pussy prices.

Will go back and partake for sure.

Daniel73
10-21-14, 08:30
OK, so me and a few guys went drinking last night at the Red Lion and then walked down to La Bocatorena. The place next door was closed sundays FYI.

First of all, there are ZERO safety issues walking from Red Lion to Bocatorena. Plenty of people all over the place. I was not concerned at all. I was also not concerned while inside.

So we walk in.

First impression: powerful stench of dried beer and vomit. It reminded me of my fraternity house on Sunday mornings. The place was jam packed with chicks and dudes. We went into the back room which was less crowded and less vomit smell.

Quite simply there were lots and lots of chicks, they ranged from 4's to 8's. A couple of the 8's were really cute.

Price is $15 for the girl and 5 for the room. I did not do anything as while I was there this regular chick of mine who knew I was at Red Lion (but I didn't think would show up) texted me from Red Lion saying "hey where are you?" and I had to go back. Of course I lied about where I was.

Anyway, after my last trip to Gruta Azul and now this trip I am firmly in the camp that I will never, ever, pay Veneto or Habanos prices again. It's just not worth it. I'll gladly take a notch down in quality in order to take an 80% reduction in both beer and pussy prices.

Will go back and partake for sure.Where is Bocatorena? Google says its 6 hrs away from Panama City.

Dickhead
10-21-14, 17:22
http://gopanama.com/listings/cantina-bocatorena-3048/

Map included.

HectorPF
10-21-14, 19:10
OK, so me and a few guys went drinking last night at the Red Lion and then walked down to La Bocatorena. The place next door was closed sundays FYI.

First of all, there are ZERO safety issues walking from Red Lion to Bocatorena. Plenty of people all over the place. I was not concerned at all. I was also not concerned while inside.

So we walk in.

First impression: powerful stench of dried beer and vomit. It reminded me of my fraternity house on Sunday mornings. The place was jam packed with chicks and dudes. We went into the back room which was less crowded and less vomit smell.

Quite simply there were lots and lots of chicks, they ranged from 4's to 8's. A couple of the 8's were really cute.

Price is $15 for the girl and 5 for the room..$20 ya can't beat that huh. Is that for 15 minutes or what?

Biff Dangler
10-22-14, 02:26
$20 ya can't beat that huh. Is that for 15 minutes or what?I think so but I am not sure. I was just talking to the guys I went with and we were thinking of going after the Liverpool-Madrird game tomorrow so hopefully I can do a trip report and let you know.

HectorPF
10-22-14, 18:46
I've been quoted as high as 400 USD for TLN from a chick at the Veneto and as low as 120 USD. My last trip I met one and we seemed to have a good vibe and I asked her for TLN and she told me 200.00 which completely blew my mind. I was expecting a quote of at least 300 considering her looks, but supply and demand wins all the time. My recommendation would be to take them ST and test drive them first, if you like her then haggle TLN.Did you do the TLN for 2? Did she stay active all night? Just curious amigo! Those girls can be stingy at Veneto!

Daniel73
10-22-14, 20:54
I think so but I am not sure. I was just talking to the guys I went with and we were thinking of going after the Liverpool-Madrird game tomorrow so hopefully I can do a trip report and let you know.Hey Biff,

My buddy and I just arrived. What time does Bocatorena open? Maybe we can meet up.

HectorPF
10-23-14, 03:46
Hey Biff,

My buddy and I just arrived. What time does Bocatorena open? Maybe we can meet up.You guys staying at the Veneto? Hows the talent looking tonight?

You69Me
10-25-14, 02:43
I was at the Veneto beginning of this month negotiating with a lovely Colombian down to 100 as a young (18) local passed by and offered me BBBJ for only $5. (five) first I did not want but she kept following me even into my car and started to go in my pants I took her to my hotel and fucked her for $20- bareback.


$20 ya can't beat that huh. Is that for 15 minutes or what?

HectorPF
10-25-14, 04:19
I was at the Veneto beginning of this month negotiating with a lovely Colombian down to 100 as a young (18) local passed by and offered me BBBJ for only $5. (five) first I did not want but she kept following me even into my car and started to go in my pants I took her to my hotel and fucked her for $20- bareback.Wait. You barebacked a puta offering $5 blowjobs? JAJA.

That takes some huevos dude. You couldn't pay me enough to put my huevos at risk like that. Makes for a good story tho if it turns out ok for ya.

Biff Dangler
10-29-14, 03:09
I was at the Veneto beginning of this month negotiating with a lovely Colombian down to 100 as a young (18) local passed by and offered me BBBJ for only $5. (five) first I did not want but she kept following me even into my car and started to go in my pants I took her to my hotel and fucked her for $20- bareback.I know that chick. Skin slightly bad? Little bit of exzcema?

Biff Dangler
10-29-14, 03:11
Hey Biff,

My buddy and I just arrived. What time does Bocatorena open? Maybe we can meet up.I don't check this often enough.

If you are still in town this week give me a time and exact location.

TripAdvisor
10-29-14, 18:22
Hey guys,

If you folks know any local classy Panama girls you can refer, shoot me a PM. Also what kind of rates for TLN lately?

You69Me
11-01-14, 20:10
Her name is Katy she is not old a bit overweight and has braces.


I don't check this often enough.

If you are still in town this week give me a time and exact location.

Longtime Travel
11-03-14, 14:20
OK, so me and a few guys went drinking last night at the Red Lion and then walked down to La Bocatorena. The place next door was closed sundays FYI.

First of all, there are ZERO safety issues walking from Red Lion to Bocatorena. Plenty of people all over the place. I was not concerned at all. I was also not concerned while inside.

So we walk in.

First impression: powerful stench of dried beer and vomit. It reminded me of my fraternity house on Sunday mornings. The place was jam packed with chicks and dudes. We went into the back room which was less crowded and less vomit smell.

Quite simply there were lots and lots of chicks, they ranged from 4's to 8's. A couple of the 8's were really cute.

Price is $15 for the girl and 5 for the room.Price is 15 $ total (10 for the girl, 5 for the room). There is a big sign at the cashier saying that you even should report girls who try to charge you 20.

Tequila Tim
11-04-14, 03:07
Hi Gang,

I'm escaping sex prison for the Veteran's Day weekend (11/7-11/11). Any fellow mongers in town who'd like to meet-up for a drink? Splitting my visit between the Doubletree and Veneto's. Anyone know if the Doubletree in El Congrejo is chica friendly?

Thanks in advance.

TT

GauntMan
11-06-14, 21:43
This is probably a question for those of you who live in PC and really get around. There is a four story building at the corner of Av Central / Via Espana and Calle L. It's one block south of the viaduct, where Via Espana becomes Av Central. The front corner of the building is rounded and there's a Dynasty department store in the ground floor. There is a yellow painted doorway and stairs to the left of the last window of the Dynasty store on Av Central. This allows you to walk up to the apartments above.

When a friend last visited it with some locals in 2012, the upper three floors were apartments where the women did business. Each apartment was fitted with a normal wooden door, and a "jail door" with widely spaced bars. If the girls are working, the wooden door will be open, and you can look through the bars of the "jail door" to see who's who. The girls frequently sit just inside the door to facilitate this. The price in 2012 was $12 for 15 minutes. There can be anywhere from 1 to 4 girls in an apartment. Despite the low rates and the questionable location, there were some decent looking women there, about the same selection you'd see at Boca.

Here's the question, is this place still in business and has anyone been there recently? I rode by in a taxi last weekend and there were lights on upstairs but I couldn't tell anything beyond that.This place seems to still be in business, but I wouldn't go there. The other day there was a news report on prostitution on the local tv channels and there was a reporter with a hidden cam walking around inside that building.

Its located in the corner of the plaza 5 de mayo, near avenida central.

Conrad Hess
11-11-14, 20:13
I'm thinking of a stop over in PTY. Want to know of hotel / motels / cabañas near the airport.

Information like website address or phone number would be helpful.

As well as prices.

Thanks.

YippieKayay
11-13-14, 00:15
Hello,

I will be in town at the Veneto for Thanksgiving and was wondering if the place is very active or slow on this weekend?

Thanks

Dickhead
11-13-14, 00:53
Hello, I will be in town at the Veneto for Thanksgiving and was wondering if the place is very active or slow on this weekend? ThanksThanksgiving is a non-factor outside the US. The only other country that celebrates it is Canada and theirs is in October. It will be the same as any other weekend. I was there last year and I forgot all about it.

HectorPF
11-14-14, 04:08
Hello,

I will be in town at the Veneto for Thanksgiving and was wondering if the place is very active or slow on this weekend?

ThanksYea don't worry about the Thanksgiving Holiday. Those girls don't even know what it is. Have your feast!

Biff Dangler
11-24-14, 11:05
Went to La Gruta Azul Friday around 6 pm with a buddy of mine. We both just wanted BJ's to start off the nigh. I went with a Dominican chick, my buddy went with a very white looking colombian chick who had glasses and wasn't very attractive in my opinion.

BJ's were covered. Nobody wanted to do uncovered. So after a few minutes I just whipped the rubber off and jerked off while she rubbed my balls.

Anyway, after another beer on the way out the uglier chick that my buddy was with was sitting outside crying. It sure made him feel shitty.

Oh well.

Seismo
11-27-14, 00:05
Located on Justo Arosemena and Calle32 I neglected to get the name of the place.

Sign says KAREOKE BAR, it is a regular masaje -sex parlor from 10 am until 5 pm with the kareoke bar opening at 5 pm.

$60 for the hour in a clean room. There were 3 chicas to choose from when I went in at around noon, all were acceptable. I took two and will return possibly tomorrow to check out the evening shift.

It is one block away from the new subway. The station is called LOTTORIA.

If you are walking, go to Via Espana, turn on CALLE43 which name changes to Arosemena and continue until just before the corner of calle 32.

The area is a working class type district with several hospitals, medical buildings, cheap restaurants, etc. I felt no safety issues in the afternoon, not sure how the area looks at midnight.

One of the day shift girls speaks English if that matters to any of you. Also, about 1. 25 hours went by before the knock on the door happened.

Biff Dangler
11-27-14, 11:40
Started out with some happy hour Margaritas with a buddy at Mendozas. Then we walked to La Morena for the seafood platter (18.50) and a bucket of 7 beers for (7. 50). Took a cab to the red lion in casco. Had one beer each then we went to La Bocatorena. Was probably around 7 pm. At least 100 chicks in there. We each banged one for 15. Then we cabbed to Habanos. Veneto's loss is Habanos's gain. I have never seen a better line up there.

I did nothing though as I am up early at the airport.

YippieKayay
11-27-14, 18:58
I agree with Biff. Habanos yesterday was insane. There were so many girls I left with two. Going back tonight.

Veneto is going hard on the 50 dollar charge. I think they want to clean up their image. I would love a proper 3 to 5 star hotel which is chica friendly for my next visit. Not to mention service is horrid at Veneto unless you tip a lot.

Some other tidbits from my visit:

* My Spanish is horrid so it really limits me to girls who can speak it. Negotiating in broken Spanish is difficult.

* I'm not going to try for TLN again. The girl will come up with an excuse to leave early.

* As a solo traveler I don't feel safe in Panama. So much nickle and diming.

Otherwise so far so good.

Biff Dangler
11-27-14, 23:19
I agree with Biff. Habanos yesterday was insane. There were so many girls I left with two. Going back tonight.

Veneto is going hard on the 50 dollar charge. I think they want to clean up their image. I would love a proper 3 to 5 star hotel which is chica friendly for my next visit. Not to mention service is horrid at Veneto unless you tip a lot.

Some other tidbits from my visit:

* My Spanish is horrid so it really limits me to girls who can speak it. Negotiating in broken Spanish is difficult.

* I'm not going to try for TLN again. The girl will come up with an excuse to leave early.

* As a solo traveler I don't feel safe in Panama. So much nickle and diming.

Otherwise so far so good.Sorry to hear you don't feel safe. I don't think there is really anything to worry about other than the cabs. The easy thing to do is to tell them in advance how much you are willing to pay. But I think you should have no fear at all of walking from Veneto to Habanos and back. I walk around blitzed at 2 am all the time in worse places.

Anyway, last night my buddy took his chick from Habanos back to Veneto and brought her in the ground level to the elevator and nobody charged him. It was early though, I think before 10.


Also, Habanos is NOT trying to clean up their image. What is happening is that occupancies in Panama are less than 50% and all the hotels are sucking wind. They are just trying to do ANYTHING to get some more cash. If they wanted to improve their image they would just kick them out.

Dickhead
11-28-14, 09:30
"I'm not going to try for TLN again. The girl will come up with an excuse to leave early."

The cost-benefit ratio to doing TLN with a stranger is just very low. I've had some good impromptu TLNs, but only when I was not "trying for it." I think the chicas can smell that. And really, you bring security issues into the picture pretty much right away. Fucking a stranger is a lot less dangerous than sleeping with one.

Again we see the superiority of mongering over other approaches to getting pussy. While one may think a TLN is a way of getting laid X number of times in one night, where X is a relatively high number, one will quickly realize that getting laid X number of times can be conveniently and reasonably cheaply achieved by laying X number of chicas one time and then sleeping alone. And if you negotiate for a woman to come back to your house, and spending the night is not part of the bargain, and she does so because your place is nicer and closer, then you do not owe her additional compensation. Do provide breakfast and ablutions as with any house guest, of course.

Combo
11-28-14, 13:36
I agree 100% with what Dickhead said. Bargaining upfront for TLN is rarely a good idea (at least with a girl you haven't been with before). The chica might be a terrible fuck, have a pussy infection, be a thief, snore loudly, or who knows what.

A much smarter method is to agree on a price for short-time. After you bone her once, you then determine if you'd like her to stay longer. In my experience, if there is some chemistry between you and her, and you're staying in a comfortable place, she'll be happy to spend the night for a little more (and sometimes nothing more) than the original payment.

IMO this is mongering 101. Bargaining initially for all-night is all lose for you and all win for her.

Magik
11-28-14, 15:28
Veneto is going hard on the 50 dollar charge. I think they want to clean up their image. I would love a proper 3 to 5 star hotel which is chica friendly for my next visit. Not to mention service is horrid at Veneto unless you tip a lot.What is this $50 charge? Are you saying Veneto is now trying to charge a chic fee? Thanks in advance for an explanation, I scrolled through the posts and didn't see anything else.

MiamiMike
11-28-14, 20:52
First time post mongers. My friends and I were thinking about going to Panama for the first time. Unfortunately, due to our schedule, we can only go Dec. 18th- 21st. Reading the posts, I know many girls go home for Christmas. Can we still have a good time going so close to Christmas.

Thanks in advance.

MarianoRiv
11-29-14, 13:07
What is this $50 charge? Are you saying Veneto is now trying to charge a chic fee? Thanks in advance for an explanation, I scrolled through the posts and didn't see anything else.There was some talk about the $50 charge when it started about a week ago, and it is in the "General Info" thread for Panama. (The top thread in the Panama forum.) Yes, it is a chica fee. There are some ways around it, like bringing the chica up before or after the security person is by the elevator, which is maybe 9 pm to 3 am.

Interestingly, one of the chicas told me that she had to pay $15 per night to the Veneto, in order to work the casino floor area.

YippieKayay
11-29-14, 17:13
I can confirm. The girls at Veneto come in through the back and pay 15 to enter. After 11 pm they let even more girls in.

Also the security person intercepting guests is getting very good at it. He will hide behind a pillar and come out to catch you at the elevators.

Panama needs to regulate its cab industry. I now go out sight seeing regularly with a Panamanian girl who does all the talking. Instead of 10 dollar fares I pay two dollar ones. I have a dark enough complexion to appear to be a shy local when I ride cabs with her.

The girl I hang with is very interesting. She does not regard me as a john or her as a prostitute. She says I am helping her not paying her.

YippieKayay
11-29-14, 17:34
First time post mongers. My friends and I were thinking about going to Panama for the first time. Unfortunately, due to our schedule, we can only go Dec. 18th- 21st. Reading the posts, I know many girls go home for Christmas. Can we still have a good time going so close to Christmas.

Thanks in advance.Unlikely. I would book it outside of holidays like Christmas. Waste of time and money. The fun part is going to Habanos and seeing 100 girls all smiling at you.

Maybe the expensive strip joints will still have girls and be open.

MarianoRiv
11-30-14, 07:09
I can confirm. The girls at Veneto come in through the back and pay 15 to enter. After 11 pm they let even more girls in.

Also the security person intercepting guests is getting very good at it. He will hide behind a pillar and come out to catch you at the elevators.

Panama needs to regulate its cab industry. I now go out sight seeing regularly with a Panamanian girl who does all the talking. Instead of 10 dollar fares I pay two dollar ones. I have a dark enough complexion to appear to be a shy local when I ride cabs with her.

The girl I hang with is very interesting. She does not regard me as a john or her as a prostitute. She says I am helping her not paying her.Yeah, I got burned once by the white cabs in front of Veneto. This was a few months ago, but one night I went with a chica from the Veneto to Via Argentina, and the cabbie wanted $10, and he got it, too. The gal I was with was Panamanian, and was confused as to why a 2-3 dollar fare was 10 bucks, but the taxi driver said it's a tourist taxi, and more safe, blah, blah, blah.

Remember to avoid the white taxis. I did use one to go to the airport, for $30, instead of getting a yellow taxi for $25. That was fine by me.

Hey, how did you meet your sightseeing girl? At the Veneto? What does she mean when she says you are helping her by not paying her? Surely she is getting some form of compensation, for something or another?

YippieKayay
11-30-14, 18:44
Hey, how did you meet your sightseeing girl? At the Veneto? What does she mean when she says you are helping her by not paying her? Surely she is getting some form of compensation, for something or another?I met her and her friend at Habanos. I lucked out I think. They initially wanted 400 each for short time. I negotiated 200 each for all night. We fucked from 10 pm to 5 am, with room service in between and just making jokes.

We exchanged numbers and the next day the one I liked most just started coming by in the morning. She dressed like a normal chica so security at Veneto did not bother her.

I stopped mongering really. I would give her 60 to 100 at around 2 am when she would go home. Some nights she would sleep until morning and only go home to feed her cat.

I got a GFE all day for 4 days + tour guide and Spanish instructor. Nearing the end I just asked her if she liked being a prostitute but she said she isn't one. She sleeps with tourists for "help" since she had two daughters.

This is the type of mongering I like. I'll keep in touch with her because I plan to visit again.

MarianoRiv
12-01-14, 04:54
I met her and her friend at Habanos. I lucked out I think. They initially wanted 400 each for short time. I negotiated 200 each for all night. We fucked from 10 pm to 5 am, with room service in between and just making jokes.

We exchanged numbers and the next day the one I liked most just started coming by in the morning. She dressed like a normal chica so security at Veneto did not bother her.

I stopped mongering really. I would give her 60 to 100 at around 2 am when she would go home. Some nights she would sleep until morning and only go home to feed her cat.

I got a GFE all day for 4 days + tour guide and Spanish instructor. Nearing the end I just asked her if she liked being a prostitute but she said she isn't one. She sleeps with tourists for "help" since she had two daughters.

This is the type of mongering I like. I'll keep in touch with her because I plan to visit again.Hey,

That sounds great! Sounds like you had a good experience. My experience was that the Panamanian gals are a bit nicer, a bit more like normal chicks, like you experienced. I mean this in contrast to the Colombianas who seem more hardened, more "business-minded" types. More greedy. Also, the Cubanas were like this, too. (Did you meet any of the Cubanas at the Veneto or Habanos?

Raju1
12-02-14, 17:51
Curious if the Hilton or Waldorf Astoria are chica friendly, anyone have any info on it?

You69Me
12-05-14, 03:09
Don't ever be cheap to taxi people. Worldwide they work long hours for nearly nothing. Paying high prices for hookers is wrong too.


Yeah, I got burned once by the white cabs in front of Veneto. This was a few months ago, but one night I went with a chica from the Veneto to Via Argentina, and the cabbie wanted $10, and he got it, too. The gal I was with was Panamanian, and was confused as to why a 2-3 dollar fare was 10 bucks, but the taxi driver said it's a tourist taxi, and more safe, blah, blah, blah.

Remember to avoid the white taxis. I did use one to go to the airport, for $30, instead of getting a yellow taxi for $25. That was fine by me.

Hey, how did you meet your sightseeing girl? At the Veneto? What does she mean when she says you are helping her by not paying her? Surely she is getting some form of compensation, for something or another?

TellAll
12-05-14, 05:06
Don't ever be cheap to taxi people. Worldwide they work long hours for nearly nothing. Paying high prices for hookers is wrong too.So pay the guy driving you more and the woman fucking you less?

YippieKayay
12-06-14, 15:27
Hello,

Can anyone confirm or deny that the Hotel Riu in Panama city is chica friendly? When I was there practically every chica I asked said its very friendly as long as you are discreet (start drinking at the bar then go up).

HectorPF
12-10-14, 01:54
Spent 6 days and 5 nights in Panama City recently. Stayed all nights at the Veneto.

Veneto.

First off the Veneto is an absolute dump. It is my fourth time to stay there and it progressively gets worse. The hallways stink and floors are always soaked in water from rains. The rooms are dirty. Housekeeping is always just barging into your room, even if you have a do not disturb sign on. The pool was closed more than it was open. I could go on and on, but you get the point. It sucked.

To make things worse, the $50 chica fee for your room is real. After dark there is a large black man standing guard at the casino level. He has a clipboard and makes you go downstairs to pay and register the girl. A little later in the night there are men at the bottom entrance too.

With that being said I was able to sneak by multiple times. My first night I picked up a smoker (9 in my opinion) from Habanos. We agreed to $100 and we took a taxi to Veneto. We walked straight in the bottom floor elevators as the guy was sidetracked. Lucky me.

The next night I was talking to every girl in Veneto. There was about 30-40 I believe. I kept asking them if they knew any way to get past the security. The basically said no but its possible if they find a key to go up by themselves when the guy isn't looking. I negotiated for a busty black chica to come up to my room for $50. (As far as I know I broke the record for actually getting a chica under $60 in Veneto. Most start at $150 and few will ever go under $100).

So I went up to the room on my own. The chica found a key from a friend and met me up there. Lucky me.

Another night I had a successful sneak attack on the large black security man because my girl was hip to the game. She took me to the slots on the opposite side of where all the action is and we sat near the door. We waited till it was open from someone getting out and made a break for it. The security guy was looking away but looked at us right as the door closed. I got a boner just from the excitement and I fucked like a champ.

Habanos.

This place is packed as ever with smoking hot Colombians. I couldn't count them all, but there is a lot. They all start at around $150 and demand $100 at the lowest. Plus you have to pay an up-price for taxis. Beers range from $4 to $5 here.

I took one chica home for $100. The girl and me WhatApp messages for a few days and I later negotiated her for $80 toda la noche. (I may have broke another record for getting lowest toda la noche for a chica from Habanos.) It helped that we hit it off and were about the same age. I had visited her hometown in Colombia and we had lots to talk about. We both speak English and Spanish and flip back and forth between the two.

That night I met the girl at a cool restaurant called Mendozas (on Via Argentina- look it up on Facebook) and we sat on the patio. She actually dressed kinda normal, which I liked. Later on is when we back to Veneto and were lucky on getting in thru the door while the security guy was talking to other people.

Bocaratona

This is the hidden gem of Panama and I almost do not want to talk too much about it. My buddy Biff Dangler (a Panama expert who is on the forum) took me to this place on my first night. The only reason I am going to write more is because I do not think many gringos will feel safe here.

The bar is near Casco Viejo and is next door to La Mayor. You walk in the saloon like doors and instantly smell feet and puke. All you see if local Pana men pounding beers and leaning against walls. They do not look to happy to see unfamiliar faces. The music is bumping and you wonder what the fuck you are doing here.

Then you walk 40 feet forward. At any given time there is between 10 and 80 chicas leaning against walls and tables near the back. At night they range from 4's to 8's. During the day they are hotter. The busiest time is happy hour (5 ish) because lots of locals go to get a fuck in before they go home.

Most girls are $15 for a fuck that HAS to last less than 20 minutes. The hotter ones demand $20. Of this $5 goes to the house for the little booth-room that you fuck them in. They supply you with the condom.

The sex is pretty routine. 30 seconds of head and then you pick a position.

Beer is $1.25 here. If your huevos are big enough go. If you are timid or look like a big pussy, don't go. A lot of locals won't even go.

My love for cheap / hot pussy and cheap / cold beer is too strong to keep me away. I went every day. But in my case I could have thrashed 90% of the guys in there in a fight. (one on one of course, I would have got murdered if I was jumped).

The chicks are hotter than expected and the beer is cheap as fuck. I smashed a high 8 at 3 pm one day and I loved it. She actually rode me and I about exploded instantly. She was hot enough to date in public.

Gruta Azul.

This place I have been to a few times. My buddy Biff took me here too. The chicks are hot. The beers are more expensive.

The problem is there was not enough girls there to smash all the dudes. It is a much higher class place.

I will not return.

My next trip
I will find a hotel close to Bocatorena and arrange take out from there. I have a hankering for the seedy life and I think that area and those chicks are what I need.

I will never go back to Veneto and I will never pay $100 or more for pussy in Panama.

Conclusion.

Panama is not a dying mongering destination, one just has to expand out. There are lots of places that are not reported on this forum. Finding a local is best, but a taxi driver will sometimes do. The prices do not have to be $100 and up. $40-$50 will do the trick on most if you have game and go to the right places.

One night I even arranged to pound a waitress from Bar Peru for $60. She was a natural Colombian semi-pro. (these girls are everywhere!

It is true that girls in Panama are more business than in Colombia or Nicaragua (in general). The sex is more routine. In some other places, you get the feel they want to date you. Here it only happens if you are young, good looking, rich, or whatever. The average monger will get a slammed door when they leave and no love afterwards.

If I had to pick a country to return to monger between Central America and the northern section of South America, I would still go with Panama. With that being said, my personal circumstances line up better than some others (language skills, looks, knowing locals, ect). I also am not looking for a wife or girlfriend.

YippieKayay
12-10-14, 19:11
Spent 6 days and 5 nights in Panama City recently. Stayed all nights at the Veneto.

To make things worse, the $50 chica fee for your room is real. After dark there is a large black man standing guard at the casino level. He has a clipboard and makes you go downstairs to pay and register the girl. A little later in the night there are men at the bottom entrance too.So on the sneaking past this part: if the chica is dressed like a hooker they stop you. If the chica is dressed like a normal person they don't stop you even late at night. After hooking the Panamanian in for full day hang outs and fucking, I would routinely go up and down with her as we picked more destinations to do things at. The security guy just completely ignored us. I think he's told not to fuck with normal guest activity. Just the mongering and he's careful about it.

BTW, he speaks no English, and I think he's embarrassed about it. Otherwise he seems like a nice guy just doing his job.


Bocaratona

Most girls are $15 for a fuck that HAS to last less than 20 minutes. The hotter ones demand $20. Of this $5 goes to the house for the little booth-room that you fuck them in. They supply you with the condom.

The sex is pretty routine. 30 seconds of head and then you pick a position.You're a champ and so is everyone else who can fuck in under 20 minutes. Seriously. I only do TLN because I need to go at it a few times before I can finally bust a nut.


Panama is not a dying mongering destination, one just has to expand out. There are lots of places that are not reported on this forum. Finding a local is best, but a taxi driver will sometimes do. The prices do not have to be $100 and up. $40-$50 will do the trick on most if you have game and go to the right places.It's going to become even more hardcore after the canal in Nicaragua opens up, and the economy in Panama takes a hit. I spoke to a friend who has mongered for many more years than me. In his own words, Panama City is about as insane as going to Thailand. He might be exaggerating.

Unless I can confirm another proper hotel (room service, room safe) that is chica friendly, I think I will book the Veneto in February for a week.

Saih007
12-12-14, 11:08
There was some talk about the $50 charge when it started about a week ago, and it is in the "General Info" thread for Panama. (The top thread in the Panama forum.) Yes, it is a chica fee. There are some ways around it, like bringing the chica up before or after the security person is by the elevator, which is maybe 9 pm to 3 am.

Interestingly, one of the chicas told me that she had to pay $15 per night to the Veneto, in order to work the casino floor area.Definitely if the girl is going to the reception thex want to charge you $50.

Same in the Sheraton Hotel, in the Hilton 100, Hard Rock Hotel much more.

In the most hotels they stop the Colombian Girls, they guess they are Escorts.

Try to find a really discrete girl, dressed normal. Or take a European LOL.

Or enter with her together your hotel.

HectorPF
12-21-14, 22:35
So on the sneaking past this part: if the chica is dressed like a hooker they stop you. If the chica is dressed like a normal person they don't stop you even late at night. After hooking the Panamanian in for full day hang outs and fucking, I would routinely go up and down with her as we picked more destinations to do things at. The security guy just completely ignored us. I think he's told not to fuck with normal guest activity. Just the mongering and he's careful about it.

BTW, he speaks no English, and I think he's embarrassed about it. Otherwise he seems like a nice guy just doing his job.

You're a champ and so is everyone else who can fuck in under 20 minutes. Seriously. I only do TLN because I need to go at it a few times before I can finally bust a nut.

It's going to become even more hardcore after the canal in Nicaragua opens up, and the economy in Panama takes a hit. I spoke to a friend who has mongered for many more years than me. In his own words, Panama City is about as insane as going to Thailand. He might be exaggerating.

Unless I can confirm another proper hotel (room service, room safe) that is chica friendly, I think I will book the Veneto in February for a week.I know you referred to a proper hotel, but there are lots of short term apartments available to rent in the area that would work great. If it had a spare room, one could lock their things in it. With the hotels getting even stricter in Panama, I see this as a great option for many looking to cut the chica fee out.

El MonoCalvo
12-26-14, 16:23
I know you referred to a proper hotel, but there are lots of short term apartments available to rent in the area that would work great. If it had a spare room, one could lock their things in it. With the hotels getting even stricter in Panama, I see this as a great option for many looking to cut the chica fee out.Any apartment recommendations? I've noticed places like Panama Studio Apartments for around 60/ night but never inquired and wondered if they allow guests. I've really enjoyed staying at the Veneto but their ever-changing chica policy can really put a damper on an otherwise fun trip.

JayHighFive
01-01-15, 15:41
What if you book a room for 2? Couldn't this be a way around the chica fee from the hotel?


There was some talk about the $50 charge when it started about a week ago, and it is in the "General Info" thread for Panama. (The top thread in the Panama forum.) Yes, it is a chica fee. There are some ways around it, like bringing the chica up before or after the security person is by the elevator, which is maybe 9 pm to 3 am.

Interestingly, one of the chicas told me that she had to pay $15 per night to the Veneto, in order to work the casino floor area.

El MonoCalvo
01-01-15, 16:01
What if you book a room for 2? Couldn't this be a way around the chica fee from the hotel?Well with most hotels the policy is you'd have to register one woman as your novia or guest and she would be the only one allowed up to the room with you for the duration of your stay.

Biff Dangler
01-02-15, 16:30
So, recent development that started a month or so but really accelerated in the last few weeks is the flood of smoking hot Cubans. They are everywhere, they are smoking hot, and they are "young and fresh" I. E. They don't have the hardened pro look. I sat with three of them last night at Veneto. Apparently they have figured some loophole where they can get into Ecuador from Cuba (due to Correa's friendship with the Castros) and then from Ecuador they can make it to PTY.

I haven't been this excited to be a monger in many, many years.

Wrong Places
01-03-15, 00:10
Spent 6 days and 5 nights in Panama City recently. Stayed all nights at the Veneto.

Bocaratona

This is the hidden gem of Panama and I almost do not want to talk too much about it. My buddy Biff Dangler (a Panama expert who is on the forum) took me to this place on my first night. The only reason I am going to write more is because I do not think many gringos will feel safe here.

The bar is near Casco Viejo and is next door to La Mayor. You walk in the saloon like doors and instantly smell feet and puke. All you see if local Pana men pounding beers and leaning against walls. They do not look to happy to see unfamiliar faces. The music is bumping and you wonder what the fuck you are doing here.

Beer is $1.25 here. If your huevos are big enough go. If you are timid or look like a big pussy, don't go. A lot of locals won't even go.Please stop this nonsense about Boca being dangerous and / or scary. Every guy who "discovers" the place posts the same thing. If it's safe for my blonde / blue skinny old gringo ass it's safe for anyone. The street and sidewalk are busy with customers, taxis and street vendors all the time. Inside, if a Panamanian is looking at you sideways you're definitely looking at them wrong. They ignore me 100% and I ignore them. You should be looking at the girls, not the guys, in any case. Yes, there are occasional fights among Panamanian guys so keep your eyes open but I've seen as many fights in expensive Chicago dance clubs among the 'roid range idiots.

You don't need big balls or big anything else to have a good time at Boca. Dress down, go with an open mind and you'll have fun. Be cautious, however, about exploring the streets behind the place. Know where you're going, don't just wander around with half a load on. And it's $15 per 15 minutes per girl. If you want / need more time, just pay another $15. Same thing if you make arrangements for more than one girl at a time. And virtually everyone is available for take out. Where else in Panama can you sample the attitude and performance of 6 girls for a total of $90 and then choose one to take out or see the next afternoon?

PDawg23
01-03-15, 05:03
So, recent development that started a month or so but really accelerated in the last few weeks is the flood of smoking hot Cubans. They are everywhere, they are smoking hot, and they are "young and fresh" I. E. They don't have the hardened pro look. I sat with three of them last night at Veneto. Apparently they have figured some loophole where they can get into Ecuador from Cuba (due to Correa's friendship with the Castros) and then from Ecuador they can make it to PTY.

I haven't been this excited to be a monger in many, many years.Hahaha this is great!

I'm going next week for 3 nights. Love me some Cubans!

Best place for them I'm guessing is Veneto? And Habanos?

Biff Dangler
01-03-15, 23:06
. And it's $15 per 15 minutes per girl. If you want / need more time, just pay another $15. Same thing if you make arrangements for more than one girl at a time. And virtually everyone is available for take out. Where else in Panama can you sample the attitude and performance of 6 girls for a total of $90 and then choose one to take out or see the next afternoon?If I'm near nutting I have just said "cinco mas" and got the extra minute or two I needed. What do they usually charge for takeout?

Biff Dangler
01-03-15, 23:06
Hahaha this is great!

I'm going next week for 3 nights. Love me some Cubans!

Best place for them I'm guessing is Veneto? And Habanos?Yeah, Habanos and Veneto. I have actually not been to Habanos in over a month but people tell me they are there, too.

Lusifer69
01-04-15, 08:49
Spent 6 days and 5 nights in Panama City recently. Stayed all nights at the Veneto.

My love for cheap / hot pussy and cheap / cold beer is too strong to keep me away. I went every day. But in my case I could have thrashed 90% of the guys in there in a fight. (one on one of course, I would have got murdered if I was jumped).

The chicks are hotter than expected and the beer is cheap as fuck. I smashed a high 8 at 3 pm one day and I loved it. She actually rode me and I about exploded instantly. She was hot enough to date in public.Amen brother. Quick question I have a trip to Panama coming up soon besides Bocaratona and la Mayor is there any other places you would recommend?

JayHighFive
01-04-15, 14:04
Cubans in Panama? I can't wait! Thanks for letting us know.


So, recent development that started a month or so but really accelerated in the last few weeks is the flood of smoking hot Cubans. They are everywhere, they are smoking hot, and they are "young and fresh" I. E. They don't have the hardened pro look. I sat with three of them last night at Veneto. Apparently they have figured some loophole where they can get into Ecuador from Cuba (due to Correa's friendship with the Castros) and then from Ecuador they can make it to PTY.

I haven't been this excited to be a monger in many, many years.

Biff Dangler
01-04-15, 17:00
Amen brother. Quick question I have a trip to Panama coming up soon besides Bocaratona and la Mayor is there any other places you would recommend?I'm not Hector PF, but we are buddies. Anyway, you might want to try "Gruta Azul" if you find the stale puke and beer smell of Bocatorena too much for you. I like to consider myself a pro here in Panama but I have still not been to "Bombanera" which I keep hearing about from Colombian bartenders. It's in San Miguelito. San Miguelito is a shithole on the order of Colon. I'm trying to get some of my buddies to make a trip with me and when I do I will make a report.

Joey Smith
01-07-15, 01:26
Gents,

Thinking of heading to Panama next week and wondering if the $50 chica fee is still in effect at the Veneto. Appreciate anyone who is there now or recently.

Dickhead
01-07-15, 02:58
I arrived today and I went upstairs to Llegadas (Arrivals) and got a taxi into town for $15. Two turned me down at that price but it still only took 3 minutes to find one to say yes. I also downloaded the taxi zone fare map and the flag drop is $1 and then it is 35 cents for every zone you cross. So basically any taxista should be happy with $2 including tip for short rides. There is, in fact, an extra charge after 2200 until 0500, but it is a whopping 25 cents. It is 40 cents for an extra passenger and not two dollars like they tried to tell this German guy today. Somebody got on my case last year about being cheap with the taxistas, but if you look at the actual, official rates, I was way overgenerous.

Jobbly
01-07-15, 04:56
Gents,

Thinking of heading to Panama next week and wondering if the $50 chica fee is still in effect at the Veneto. Appreciate anyone who is there now or recently.Yep. I paid it today. There didn't appear to be anything stopping us from going straight upstairs, but the girls seem to accept it as a requirement and lead you to reception to pay the fee.

Dickhead
01-07-15, 22:12
I meant to say that I went upstairs to departures and got a taxi. Obviously, having just arrived, I was at arrivals. Today I got my bus / subway card. It was a pretty good hassle. It's so humid here, all your money goes limp and I had to try several bills. I finally gave up and used a five even though the machines don't give change. Supposedly the $3 difference between that and the $2 price of the card itself would go on the card as credit. It did not. I went across the station where they had an office and they did a bunch of shit, handed me back the card, and said the credit would hit in three days. Great; I will be long gone by then. So I had to put another dollar on it so I can go to Albrook tomorrow. 35 cents a ride is pretty good, though.

Hutzesq
01-08-15, 05:57
Hi,

I am going to be in Panama City and will stay at the Hilton for an industry conference. As I am going to be around customers, co-workers and competitors, it is not really an option to go to some of the places mentioned here, find a girl and walk back into my hotel with her as I will be noticed and that will not be good.

I am wondering if escort agencies are a good option in Panama. Googling "escorts in panama" turns up a number of legit looking websites, I assume the pricing on these is a bit of a premium. If I tell the escort agency to have the girl dress conservatively and I give the girl my room number, can she get up to the room without an issue or are key cards needed to operate the elevator at the Hilton? As noted I don't think meeting the girl in the lobby is an option for me.

If what I mention above will not work, it seems my fallback is to just get a room at the Veneto and then get a girl from the Veneto or Habanos (still some detection risk I would face). The board seems to note a $50 chica fee at the Veneto. Between the cost of the Veneto and chica fee, I would be better off just paying a premium to an escort who can get up to my room at the Hilton. I understand that there are other outcall options in Panama City which I may need to look into, but my general preference when possible is for incall.

Thanks in advance for any responses.

Tp Horn
01-08-15, 23:54
As I am going to be around customers, co-workers and competitors, it is not really an option to go to some of the places mentioned here, find a girl and walk back into my hotel with her as I will be noticed and that will not be good.Your competitors will be chilling at Habano's and stealing all your customers by ordering chicas for them.

I kid, but I have been to a few conferences in latin america and noticed attendees in the hot spots at night. But I can understand your concern.

I can't recommend any escort websites, but to avoid the walk through the hotel you can consider the LOS Arcos love motel a quick taxi ride from the Hilton and Habano's.

Look at the craigs list for Panama, some of the gals there are from agencies and otherwise look legit.

TellAll
01-09-15, 00:19
Hi,

I am going to be in Panama City and will stay at the Hilton for an industry conference. As I am going to be around customers, co-workers and competitors, it is not really an option to go to some of the places mentioned here, find a girl and walk back into my hotel with her as I will be noticed and that will not be good.

I am wondering if escort agencies are a good option in Panama. Googling "escorts in panama" turns up a number of legit looking websites, I assume the pricing on these is a bit of a premium. If I tell the escort agency to have the girl dress conservatively and I give the girl my room number, can she get up to the room without an issue or are key cards needed to operate the elevator at the Hilton? As noted I don't think meeting the girl in the lobby is an option for me.

If what I mention above will not work, it seems my fallback is to just get a room at the Veneto and then get a girl from the Veneto or Habanos (still some detection risk I would face). The board seems to note a $50 chica fee at the Veneto. Between the cost of the Veneto and chica fee, I would be better off just paying a premium to an escort who can get up to my room at the Hilton. I understand that there are other outcall options in Panama City which I may need to look into, but my general preference when possible is for incall.

Thanks in advance for any responses.Any woman that your coworkers see you with or coming in or out of your room, they will know is a hooker. The front desk will probably stop her, I'd here and find out who she is there to see which could blow your cover. Not to mention the chica fee they charge to your room.

If you are at Habanos or the Veneto, chances are you will run into coworkers and you will know and they will know you are all there to hunt.

A lot of agency girls and freelancers advertise on Wanuncio Panama. It is like a Craiglist. If you don't feel comfortable going to her apartment, book you a room at a love motel to stay at night so you will be away from your coworkers.

I think this would be the most economical considering your situation and some of those love hotels are really nice.

Good luck and have fun.

Dars Veider
01-09-15, 01:22
Went there today in the afternoon for the very first time. Hard to find. Was walking by two times before I spotted it.

Went in. Very dark and seedy, smelled for vomit. Lots of girls of all shapes. Had a beer (1,50 USD) and was screening the available talent. Saw a Flaquita. My type. Went over and asked for the price. Was quoted 20 USD. Tried to negotiate down to 15, but she wouldn't agree. Well, I think she was the best looking one in there and therefore she charged a surcharge. LOL.

Then we went to the room. Small room, dirty floor, dirty linen on the bed. Normally I would have turned around, but I had paid already so I got undressed and left my shoes on. She also undressed, took a condom put on my dick and started sucking for maybe 30 seconds. So I demanded more. But again after 10 seconds she stopped and laid back and asked me to fuck her.

So I fucked her hard, we changed positions to doggy and after some 5 minutes I came. Rushed to get dressed and to get out of there.

Conclusion: Not my cup of tea.

I attach a small map to make it easier to find it'!

Jlalo
01-09-15, 16:59
Your competitors will be chilling at Habano's and stealing all your customers by ordering chicas for them.

I kid, but I have been to a few conferences in latin america and noticed attendees in the hot spots at night. But I can understand your concern.

I can't recommend any escort websites, but to avoid the walk through the hotel you can consider the LOS Arcos love motel a quick taxi ride from the Hilton and Habano's.

Look at the craigs list for Panama, some of the gals there are from agencies and otherwise look legit.I second the LOS Arcos recommendation. Extremely affordable.

Viva Chicas
01-10-15, 07:12
Very simple if you need to be discrete and not have your co-workers see you take a Puta to your official hotel.

Go to Habanos or Veneto. All taxi drivers know where both are at ($3 trip max). Find the girl of choice. Negotiate price with.

The girl. Then go out front and get a taxi girl in hand. Tell the taxi driver LOS Arcos and they all know where it is at. The price will be $5, but these taxi's are directly in front of Habanos and Veneto so it will be easier. Arrive at LOS Arcos (have your passport for registration, or Cedula). Pay I think about $13 for two hours. Nice clean small rooms with TV, and clean bathroom with shower.

After the cannon fires and you are happy, leave with the girl in hand, and go directly out to the street in front of LOS Arcos. Nobody will see you there as not a tourist area, so do not worry. After a few minutes you will be in a taxi and go back to your hotel, after dropping off your girl back at where you got her.

Simple. NO problems.

Hutzesq
01-10-15, 08:49
Very simple if you need to be discrete and not have your co-workers see you take a Puta to your official hotel.

Go to Habanos or Veneto. All taxi drivers know where both are at ($3 trip max). Find the girl of choice. Negotiate price with.

The girl. Then go out front and get a taxi girl in hand. Tell the taxi driver LOS Arcos and they all know where it is at. The price will be $5, but these taxi's are directly in front of Habanos and Veneto so it will be easier. Arrive at LOS Arcos (have your passport for registration, or Cedula). Pay I think about $13 for two hours. Nice clean small rooms with TV, and clean bathroom with shower.

After the cannon fires and you are happy, leave with the girl in hand, and go directly out to the street in front of LOS Arcos. Nobody will see you there as not a tourist area, so do not worry. After a few minutes you will be in a taxi and go back to your hotel, after dropping off your girl back at where you got her.

Simple. NO problems.Thanks for your advice, it is greatly appreciated. A few more questions if I may, are Habanos and Veneto just evening venues or are they active during the day (like 2-4 pm? If these aren't good daytime options, can anyone recommend such an option?

Thank you again for the helpful responses to this noob.

Dickhead
01-10-15, 16:03
Can't speak for Veneto but Hábanos is closed during the day.

Dars Veider
01-10-15, 17:23
Just stayed some nights in this newly opened hotel. It is very close to the metro station (Iglesia del Carmen) and Veneto and Habanos (each 5-7 minutes walking distance).

Booked a double room and checked in alone.

I asked the reception guys if I can bring in a girl and the answer was „yes, for an extra 30 USD". So I pointed on my reservation for two persons. So they said, OK, they would register the girl to my room and then it wouldn't cost anything. But then the girl has to be every day the same girl. WTF. So from my second night on I always had to pay the 30 bucks.

So next time I'm looking for another hotel option (hopefully GF). Any ideas?

Cheers,

DV

Jlalo
01-10-15, 19:40
Thanks for your advice, it is greatly appreciated. A few more questions if I may, are Habanos and Veneto just evening venues or are they active during the day (like 2-4 pm? If these aren't good daytime options, can anyone recommend such an option?

Thank you again for the helpful responses to this noob.Veneto is open for gambling but most of the chicas do not start coming in till around 8 pm and after. You may encounter a couple between the hours of 2 -4. Your better off meeting a girl the night before for daytime action or trying one of the massage spots.

JayHighFive
01-11-15, 13:48
Oasis massage parlor is open during the day and Gold Fingers opens at 1 pm.


Veneto is open for gambling but most of the chicas do not start coming in till around 8 pm and after. You may encounter a couple between the hours of 2 -4. Your better off meeting a girl the night before for daytime action or trying one of the massage spots.

Jlalo
01-11-15, 14:49
Just stayed some nights in this newly opened hotel. It is very close to the metro station (Iglesia del Carmen) and Veneto and Habanos (each 5-7 minutes walking distance).

Booked a double room and checked in alone.

I asked the reception guys if I can bring in a girl and the answer was yes, for an extra 30 USD". So I pointed on my reservation for two persons. So they said, OK, they would register the girl to my room and then it wouldn't cost anything. But then the girl has to be every day the same girl. WTF. So from my second night on I always had to pay the 30 bucks.

So next time I'm looking for another hotel option (hopefully GF). Any ideas?

Cheers,

DVI see tons of talk about hotel issues on this board. Lots of the hotels are not GF friendly but there are some that are. I find it a lot easier just to book one of the many apartments that are available. This alleviates the guessing game weather a hotel will be GF or not. Some hotels change their policies and it really will put a damper on your trip if that policy changes just prior to your arrival. Airbnb has plenty of apartment options.

Mfins
01-13-15, 04:58
I arrived today and I went upstairs to Llegadas (Arrivals) and got a taxi into town for $15. Two turned me down at that price but it still only took 3 minutes to find one to say yes. I also downloaded the taxi zone fare map and the flag drop is $1 and then it is 35 cents for every zone you cross. So basically any taxista should be happy with $2 including tip for short rides. There is, in fact, an extra charge after 2200 until 0500, but it is a whopping 25 cents. It is 40 cents for an extra passenger and not two dollars like they tried to tell this German guy today. Somebody got on my case last year about being cheap with the taxistas, but if you look at the actual, official rates, I was way overgenerous.Good Find!. Almost no taxi will stick to this but, It explains why some taxis charge me $5-$7 for a short ride and then some which maybe the same distance or even onger I am charged $2-$3.

Mfins
01-13-15, 05:08
I see tons of talk about hotel issues on this board. Lots of the hotels are not GF friendly but there are some that are. I find it a lot easier just to book one of the many apartments that are available. This alleviates the guessing game weather a hotel will be GF or not. Some hotels change their policies and it really will put a damper on your trip if that policy changes just prior to your arrival. Airbnb has plenty of apartment options.Agreed, There are some countries where it just isn't worth messing with Hotels and wondering whether a particular hotel is Girl Friendly or not. It causes a huge hassle at the end of the night when they are demanding a guest fee or flat out refusing a guest to enter.

Many of the hotels that are girl friendly change there policy. Also some receptionists follow different rules.

Unfortunately Panama is such a business destination for many that the employer is paying and / or booking the accomadations.

However, Panama is definitely a country where an APT rental is recommended whenever possible.

Tiny 12
01-13-15, 06:08
Hutzesq, There are a ton of massage (i.e. brothel) options, most of which are open during daytime. In addition to what has already been mentioned, they include Hawaii, Relax Oriental, Caribbean Center, Golden Time (nights only), River Club, and Royal Elegance. Miami, a strip club, opens during the afternoon and if memory serves me correctly has rooms on site; selection during afternoons there is poor. I have from time to time run across women in the afternoon at the Veneto, although usually (but not always) walking a block from there to Oasis massage was a better option.

Mfins, respectfully, I've enjoyed your reports and so don't want to be insulting. However, $5 to $7 for a short ride is right up there with having a large stick rammed up your ass. I will pay $2 or $3, which is exceptionally generous compared to what locals pay. Dickhead's description below about the taxi fare map is enlightening, much more so than his discussions elsewhere of corporate income taxation.

Hutzesq
01-13-15, 06:13
Hutzesq, There are a ton of massage options. In addition to what has already been mentioned, they include Hawaii, Relax Oriental, Caribbean Center, Golden Time (nights only), River Club, Oasis and Royal Elegance. Miami, a strip club, opens early afternoon and if memory serves me correctly has rooms on site.

Mfins, respectfully, I've enjoyed your reports and so don't want to be insulting. However, $5 to $7 for a short ride is right up there with having a large stick rammed up your ass. I will pay $2 or $3, which is exceptionally generous compared to what locals pay. Dickhead's discussion below about the official rates is enlightening.Tiny. Thanks to you and all others who have provided great information, I really appreciate it. I walked around some of the venues mentioned yesterday (Oasis, Habanos, Veneto) yesterday (Sunday) about 5 pm and they were either closed (Oasis, Habanos) or empty (Veneto) and the rest of the city seemed really sleepy, so I suspect that is just how Sunday is here. Hope to explore more as it seems like the city has woken up today.

Dickhead
01-13-15, 06:14
[QUOTE=Mfins;1668378]Good Find!. Almost no taxi will stick to this[ / be].

Tell the taxista where you want to go. Get in the cab. Don't say anything. Get out of the cab. Don't say anything. Hand him $2 and walk away. Have the zone map in your pocket in case he wants to call the cops, but he's not going to do that because he would not have a leg to stand on, and you actually tipped him since most likely the fare is 1,35 or at most 1,70. For example, Albrook is Zone 3 and Veneto et al are Zone 4 so that would be 1,35.

Fuck paying gringo taxes.

Mr HC
01-13-15, 17:14
Hello,

I am seeking a nice / luxury hotel or condominium that is chica friendly. Would like something close to the action or with action on site. I have been told that many places have a $50 chica fee. Is this correct?

I am also looking for a spot that can be counted upon to have a high number of higher quality chicas on a consistent basis. For those of you familiar with Costa Rica I am thinking about a place like the Cocal in Jaco or the way the Del Rey in San Jose used to be.

Price is not an issue since where ever I go will be much cheaper than home.

Thanks in advance for the help.

Mfins
01-14-15, 03:49
Hutzesq, There are a ton of massage (i.e. brothel) options, most of which are open during daytime. In addition to what has already been mentioned, they include Hawaii, Relax Oriental, Caribbean Center, Golden Time (nights only), River Club, and Royal Elegance. Miami, a strip club, opens during the afternoon and if memory serves me correctly has rooms on site; selection during afternoons there is poor. I have from time to time run across women in the afternoon at the Veneto, although usually (but not always) walking a block from there to Oasis massage was a better option.

Mfins, respectfully, I've enjoyed your reports and so don't want to be insulting. However, $5 to $7 for a short ride is right up there with having a large stick rammed up your ass. I will pay $2 or $3, which is exceptionally generous compared to what locals pay. Dickhead's description below about the taxi fare map is enlightening, much more so than his discussions elsewhere of corporate income taxation.I agree, But sometimes a Large Stick can be fun. Haha.

Biff Dangler
01-14-15, 17:42
Hutzesq, There are a ton of massage (i.e. brothel) options, most of which are open during daytime. In addition to what has already been mentioned, they include Hawaii, Relax Oriental, Caribbean Center, Golden Time (nights only), River Club, and Royal Elegance. Miami, a strip club, opens during the afternoon and if memory serves me correctly has rooms on site; selection during afternoons there is poor. I have from time to time run across women in the afternoon at the Veneto, although usually (but not always) walking a block from there to Oasis massage was a better option.

Mfins, respectfully, I've enjoyed your reports and so don't want to be insulting. However, $5 to $7 for a short ride is right up there with having a large stick rammed up your ass. I will pay $2 or $3, which is exceptionally generous compared to what locals pay. Dickhead's description below about the taxi fare map is enlightening, much more so than his discussions elsewhere of corporate income taxation.Two things:

1. River Club is night only. I'm positive about this.

2. I have not gone to Club Miami in two years or so (it was my favorite place in 2008-2009) but last few times it was dead dead dead until like 11 pm or later.

Biff Dangler
01-14-15, 17:47
Good Find!. Almost no taxi will stick to this but, It explains why some taxis charge me $5-$7 for a short ride and then some which maybe the same distance or even onger I am charged $2-$3.Tell them in advance. Negotiate before you get into the cab.

Dickhead
01-14-15, 22:16
Tell them in advance. Negotiate before you get into the cab.Apparently you don't understand. There is no need to negotiate. The fares are set by law.

Snipps
01-16-15, 23:41
Have fun this weekend in Pananama, I will be there the following weekend. Would be great to give me some intel on the current scene at the Veneto, habanos, etc. Last I hear they now charge a 50 dollar fee for each chica you bring to the room. I also heard a lot of Cuban ladies have been making there way as well. Hope to hear from you soon. Thanks.

Snipps
01-16-15, 23:53
HOw was your experience? Did you see a lot of Cubans?

Biff Dangler
01-17-15, 07:29
Have fun this weekend in Pananama, I will be there the following weekend. Would be great to give me some intel on the current scene at the Veneto, habanos, etc. Last I hear they now charge a 50 dollar fee for each chica you bring to the room. I also heard a lot of Cuban ladies have been making there way as well. Hope to hear from you soon. Thanks.I just got back from Habanos 5 minutes ago. A+. Good quality. I posted earlier about Cubans but did not see them tonight. I don't know if they were at Veneto or not and I don't know the latest on the 50 dollar fee. But Habanos was prime. Good quality and lots of it, just no Cubans as far as I could tell.

Biff Dangler
01-17-15, 07:31
Apparently you don't understand. There is no need to negotiate. The fares are set by law.I understand perfectly well. I was intrigued by the post. I talked to at least 20 people, 75% panamanians and none of them had ever heard of it. The law might be one thing, the market is another. I am not willing to get my ass kicked over a dollar. I'll settle on the fare before I get it.

Dickhead
01-19-15, 00:26
Well, if you're afraid of getting your ass kicked by a cab driver, you're probably doing the right thing. You should also pay waiters three times what the meal costs. They might kick your ass otherwise. Also, I'd suggest you run your metro card through the machine twice, just so you don't get your ass kicked.

"The market," my butt. Since these fares were set, the price of gas is down by 30%. The taxistas are doing fine at the established rates. Do any of these panameños you talked to ever actually take cabs? The existence of these fares was communicated to me by a travel agent on my first visit to PTY. It just took me a while to find the actual fare chart.

Dickhead
01-19-15, 00:54
For those who are not afraid of getting their ass kicked by some scrawny panameño taxista:

http://www.transito.gob.pa/tarifa-taxis

Read it and weep for all the times you grossly overpaid!

Mfins
01-20-15, 05:46
For those who are not afraid of getting their ass kicked by some scrawny panameo taxista:

http://www.transito.gob.pa/tarifa-taxis

Read it and weep for all the times you grossly overpaid!As I said before, I applaud you on the find. Good work locating the fare sheet but, In most situations especially for a short trip it is not going to be practical to use it.

For instance, walking out of Veneto.

As soon as you exit the doors there are 5 different cabbies asking if you need a taxi. Most are driving the white taxis which are "taxi particulares". I do not believe they are required to stick by the Fare sheet you have since they are "special taxis" and have what amounts to a limo license. A $5 fare is $20-$25 with them unless you negotiate hard. They also work outside the Hardrock and many other nice hotels. So using them is out.

Then you walk across the street and there are generally some yellow cabs over there. They too are yelling " taxi amigo, taxi". Traffic is going by, horns are honking, people are yelling, your half buzzed etc. To stand there and ask each one what the rate is, pull out a Rate map, and negotiate over $1 or $2 and waste 10-15 minutes in the process just isn't practical.

Sometimes there are no Yellow cabs waiting across the street and you have to flag one down that is driving by. When you flag one, they stop you go up to the driver side window and again commence the negotiation process. As they are stopped in the middle of the road, cars and traffic are accumulating behind them. More honking etc. Is someone going to tell them no over $1 or $2 difference and then flag down the next cab that comes by and repeat the process again until one that agrees on the rate is found? Doesn't seem logical.

Then assuming you negotiate a rate, you arrive at your destination, the taxista doesn't stick by what he said and, jumps it up from $2 to $3 are you going to argue with him, cause a scene, stick to your guns and be prepared to have the police come to prove your point? Over a dollar or two? Again It just isn't practical.

I am happy you found the sheet and I think it can be used as a general guide but, it cannot be treated as gospel.

Biff Dangler
01-20-15, 06:55
Well, if you're afraid of getting your ass kicked by a cab driver, you're probably doing the right thing. You should also pay waiters three times what the meal costs. They might kick your ass otherwise. Also, I'd suggest you run your metro card through the machine twice, just so you don't get your ass kicked.

"The market," my butt. Since these fares were set, the price of gas is down by 30%. The taxistas are doing fine at the established rates. Do any of these panameos you talked to ever actually take cabs? The existence of these fares was communicated to me by a travel agent on my first visit to PTY. It just took me a while to find the actual fare chart.All I can say to you is "good luck with that".

Yes fares are down with gas being down and the longer I live here the better I do, but, no, I refuse to get into a cab. Say nothing about the fare. And then get out in a seedy neighborhood and give the guy vastly less than he expected.

Again, good luck with that.

BiggCommish
01-20-15, 14:24
All I can say to you is "good luck with that".

Yes fares are down with gas being down and the longer I live here the better I do, but, no, I refuse to get into a cab. Say nothing about the fare. And then get out in a seedy neighborhood and give the guy vastly less than he expected.

Again, good luck with that.I just spent 9 days in Panama City. Took at least 5 taxis a day. Mostly Veneto to my apt which was near metro plaza hotel. Also ventured over to the Boca area. Never paid more than 2 USD and not once did they say anything. Just pretend you are in a US strip club. Carry a bunch of 1 dollar bills and act like you know the game. Avoid the cabs directly in front of places like Veneto and taxi life is very simple.

Dickhead
01-20-15, 16:59
As I said before, I applaud you on the find. Good work locating the fare sheet but, In most situations especially for a short trip it is not going to be practical to use it.

For instance, walking out of Veneto.

As soon as you exit the doors there are 5 different cabbies asking if you need a taxi. Most are driving the white taxis which are "taxi particulares". I do not believe they are required to stick by the Fare sheet you have since they are "special taxis" and have what amounts to a limo license. A $5 fare is $20-$25 with them unless you negotiate hard. They also work outside the Hardrock and many other nice hotels. So using them is out.

Then you walk across the street and there are generally some yellow cabs over there. They too are yelling " taxi amigo, taxi". Traffic is going by, horns are honking, people are yelling, your half buzzed etc. To stand there and ask each one what the rate is, pull out a Rate map, and negotiate over $1 or $2 and waste 10-15 minutes in the process just isn't practical.

Sometimes there are no Yellow cabs waiting across the street and you have to flag one down that is driving by. When you flag one, they stop you go up to the driver side window and again commence the negotiation process. As they are stopped in the middle of the road, cars and traffic are accumulating behind them. More honking etc. Is someone going to tell them no over $1 or $2 difference and then flag down the next cab that comes by and repeat the process again until one that agrees on the rate is found? Doesn't seem logical.

Then assuming you negotiate a rate, you arrive at your destination, the taxista doesn't stick by what he said and, jumps it up from $2 to $3 are you going to argue with him, cause a scene, stick to your guns and be prepared to have the police come to prove your point? Over a dollar or two? Again It just isn't practical.

I am happy you found the sheet and I think it can be used as a general guide but, it cannot be treated as gospel.Your reading skills are extremely poor. I did not say to "go to the driver side window to commence negotiations. " I said get in, get out, pay the correct amount, and leave. And yeah, if they want to call the cops that's fine, because a) I am not going to stick around and b) I'm right. And fuck no, I'm not going to argue with him. I'm going to hand him the money and leave and if he were to try to physically stop me, he would get hurt.

Again, negotiation is unnecessary and the panameños certainly aren't doing it, except maybe the special ones Biff Dangler claims to have talked to. Biff Dangler seems to think that by giving the correct fare, you are giving "vastly less than expected. " I don't think that is true. They might HOPE you are a stupid gringo, but they don't EXPECT it.

Mfins
01-21-15, 05:20
Your reading skills are extremely poor. I did not say to "go to the driver side window to commence negotiations. " I said get in, get out, pay the correct amount, and leave. And yeah, if they want to call the cops that's fine, because a) I am not going to stick around and b) I'm right. And fuck no, I'm not going to argue with him. I'm going to hand him the money and leave and if he were to try to physically stop me, he would get hurt.

Again, negotiation is unnecessary and the panameos certainly aren't doing it, except maybe the special ones Biff Dangler claims to have talked to. Biff Dangler seems to think that by giving the correct fare, you are giving "vastly less than expected. " I don't think that is true. They might HOPE you are a stupid gringo, but they don't EXPECT it.Actually I think I got a gold star in Reading skills back in Elementary school.

Anyway, If your okay with getting in a cab, taking a ride, the driver asking for $5 when you get to your destination and you giving him $2,then telling him that you know about the fare laws and have a sheet to prove it than that is great. I am glad it works for you.

Me, I find it completely impractical and is going to cause problems. I do not think your going to get into a physical fight but, certainly a lot of arguments and un needed stress and aggrevation over a few bucks.

This is supposed to be a vacation. Enjoy it and don't create un needed stresses and issues over a few dollars at least that's my philosiphy.

Gotta GO
01-21-15, 05:45
Actually I think I got a gold star in Reading skills back in Elementary school.

Anyway, If your okay with getting in a cab, taking a ride, the driver asking for $5 when you get to your destination and you giving him $2,then telling him that you know about the fare laws and have a sheet to prove it than that is great. I am glad it works for you.

Me, I find it completely impractical and is going to cause problems. I do not think your going to get into a physical fight but, certainly a lot of arguments and un needed stress and aggrevation over a few bucks.

This is supposed to be a vacation. Enjoy it and don't create un needed stresses and issues over a few dollars at least that's my philosiphy.I was on my way to San Pedro mall and noticed the meter was spinning awfully fast.

Biff Dangler
01-21-15, 16:24
Your reading skills are extremely poor. I did not say to "go to the driver side window to commence negotiations. " I said get in, get out, pay the correct amount, and leave. And yeah, if they want to call the cops that's fine, because a) I am not going to stick around and b) I'm right. And fuck no, I'm not going to argue with him. I'm going to hand him the money and leave and if he were to try to physically stop me, he would get hurt.

Again, negotiation is unnecessary and the panamaneos certainly aren't doing it, except maybe the special ones Biff Dangler claims to have talked to. Biff Dangler seems to think that by giving the correct fare, you are giving "vastly less than expected. " I don't think that is true. They might HOPE you are a stupid gringo, but they don't EXPECT it.Point 1: I never said that Panamanians negotiate (or certainly not on short trips, they certainly do to airport and such).

Point 2: If you are a Panamanian and you give the correct fare, you are not giving less than expected.

Point 3: If you are a gringo and giving the correct fare, I think you are giving less than expected. This is why I simply tell them the price in advance. For anywhere nearby I tell them two dollars. Sometimes I walk away if they don't agree and sometimes I don't depending on what I feel like.

However, the fact is that if you are leaving Casco at midnight and you say two dollars to one of these guys and insist on it they will say no and drive away if you don't negotiate. So clearly they expect more or else they wouldn't drive away.

So now the decision is "Do I get in (and mind you I've been drinking) and go to my apartment which is not on a busy and well lit street, and then get out and give the guy two dollars and tell him to fuck off? Bear in mind, there is a good chance the Taxi driver has been drinking as well.

I've spent a lot of time in a lot of unsafe places (including Africa) and I think I have some pretty good survival skills. Pissing off taxi drivers at night when I have been drinking is something I am just not going to do.

Now, I apologize if I missed this earlier but have you been using this technique? For how long?


EDIT TO ADD: Again, however, thank you for the information. I will try it sometime during the day in a few days and see how it goes. I am open to the idea that you are 100% right and I am 100% wrong on this.

Dickhead
01-21-15, 18:24
This is supposed to be a vacation. Enjoy it and don't create un needed stresses and issues over a few dollars at least that's my philosiphy.Yeah, well, maybe for you it's a vacation but I live in Central America so I can't really put up with bullshit gringo pricing in the long run. And I'm not "stressed out" about dealing with some cab driver. It ain't my first rodeo.

Dickhead
01-21-15, 18:30
Now, I apologize if I missed this earlier but have you been using this technique? For how long?


EDIT TO ADD: Again, however, thank you for the information. I will try it sometime during the day in a few days and see how it goes. I am open to the idea that you are 100% right and I am 100% wrong on this.I only took two cabs while I was in PTY, other than the one at the airport (I believe I described the technique I used there for $15) and yes, I got in, said nothing, got out, and gave them two dollars. Both rides were between Zones 3 and 4, one in one direction and one in the other. Other than that, I used the Metro which is a hell of a good deal. But I don't drink much any more and even less so when I go out mongering at night (I'm more of a day time guy) so drunk is not a huge factor nowadays. The other good thing is if you're sober, you can tell if the taxista is not. My guess that you would be more likely to find a drunk driver if you take one of those "special" cabs you guys were talking about. I usually try to get an older taxista whenever possible as they tend to drive more conservatively.

Also, I don't recommend telling them to "fuck off" as part of the routine. And, there is a slight night time surcharge so $2 at night would basically be zero tip. I think it's 1,90 at night for one zone to the next. So $2,50 would probably be my payment.

One of the many things I prefer about Costa Rica over Panama is that the cabs have meters. Of course, the cabs here in Costa Rica are quite a bit more expensive than in Panama. In fact everything in Costa Rica is a lot more expensive except rent and pussy, which are about the same. I don't like PTY because of the climate and normally only stay there two days at a time to get from one place to another, rest up from what's typically an overnight flight, knock off a piece of ass or two, and proceed to a higher elevation and cooler location. That's why I never bothered to find the rumored map until now. I'll be in and out of PTY two more times this year, so I figured it was worth the trouble.

You're welcome.

HectorPF
01-21-15, 20:55
Also, I don't recommend telling them to "fuck off" as part of the routine. And, there is a slight night time surcharge so $2 at night would basically be zero tip. I think it's 1,90 at night for one zone to the next. So $2,50 would probably be my payment.Not all of the taxi drivers are the same, obviously. From my experience they will always want to charge more during rush hour, while its raining, and if you have a girl with you. Obviously they are looking to spot foreigners to charge more as well. Being a foreigner and getting a taxi under these circumstances, they will absolutely want to charge you more.

A handful of times I had my headphones in, never actually talked to the driver except to tell him my destination, then handed him $3 and hopped out. There is no way this would work all the time, as some of the drivers are stubborn dickheads. They may try to cause a ruckus, but I guess its up to you on what to do then. If I just jumped out with my headphones on, I kinda doubt they would get out and chase me down for a few bucks. On the other hand, if your in Panama a lot, do you want to use this method every day and risk it?

ButtLover69
01-22-15, 03:40
Visited la Bocatorena the other day and there is some new snatch there. If you are into cheap pussy and have no problem busting a nut within 10 to 15 minutes this is your place my friend. I first went for a small girl with a huge ass she usually stands by the door that leads to the rooms. She sucks a mean dick and let me suck her tits too, she climbed on top of me and jumped on my dick as if her life depended on it. I then told her to turn around put her ass way up as I dick her down in a hardcore fashion. She turned around and said "uy papi estas arrecho o que"(Are you horny or what) I told her yes and to suck me off again, she did. She put her ass way up again and within seconds I blasted. Cleaned up with some paper towel as she took a [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) (they all do this before or after).

I then had a few drinks and grabbed a black chick that had an ass bigger than two basketballs put together. Her blowjob sucked and had my dick disappointed so I helped myself and then had her sit on me with her xxxl ass. She got tired fast so I had to put her in doggy style and drilled her as if I had 5 minutes left to live. Came in her hard and then cleaned up as she took a [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140).

I had now spent 30 $ and dick down 2 chicks. I looked for a third one and then a fourth one before I left and grabbed a taxi. I've said this before and I'l say it again. Do not worry about going to this place if you are a gringo. Nothing will happen to you. You might feel awkward when you walk in because you will get a view stares but there is nothing to worry about just do what you came there for.

Dickhead
01-22-15, 04:23
On the other hand, if your in Panama a lot, do you want to use this method every day and risk it?Risk what? They aren't going to call the cops. If they do, the cops aren't going to come. If they do come, I am in the right. So yes, I will use this method all the time. I'll be there again in May and will report back. Of course, with the metro, I won't be using cabs nearly as frequently.

Now suppose they do call the cops, and the cops do come, and do think I'm wrong. What will the cop do? Make me pay the dumbass gringo price. Plus that assumes I am still anywhere in the neighborhood by the time they get there, which I wouldn't be. So again, what am I risking? Maybe for someone who doesn't speak Spanish, any contact with the police is very frightening. I'm not worried about it. At all.

Now, anywhere in the world, if I am staying in a hotel or an apartment, and I take a cab, I don't give the address or hotel name, but just the intersection. I learned that the hard way in Colombia.

HectorPF
01-22-15, 04:45
Risk what? They aren't going to call the cops. If they do, the cops aren't going to come. If they do come, I am in the right. So yes, I will use this method all the time. I'll be there again in May and will report back. Of course, with the metro, I won't be using cabs nearly as frequently.

Now suppose they do call the cops, and the cops do come, and do think I'm wrong. What will the cop do? Make me pay the dumbass gringo price. Plus that assumes I am still anywhere in the neighborhood by the time they get there, which I wouldn't be. So again, what am I risking? Maybe for someone who doesn't speak Spanish, any contact with the police is very frightening. I'm not worried about it. At all.

Now, anywhere in the world, if I am staying in a hotel or an apartment, and I take a cab, I don't give the address or hotel name, but just the intersection. I learned that the hard way in Colombia.For someone so tough like you, that sounds pretty chicken to be afraid to be dropped off at your hotel (anywhere in the world). I get San Salvador, but PTY? Please.

It sounds like you have hardly used taxis in PTY, so please report back after you actually have.

Biff Dangler
01-22-15, 13:51
I had now spent 30 $ and dick down 2 chicks. I looked for a third one and then a fourth one before I left and grabbed a taxi. I've said this before and I'l say it again. Do not worry about going to this place if you are a gringo. Nothing will happen to you. You might feel awkward when you walk in because you will get a view stares but there is nothing to worry about just do what you came there for.This isn't really a trip report, but:

The other day I walked all the way down via Espana onto avenue central all the way to where it ends in casco. This was during a week day. There were a bunch of bomb-ass bars at the top of the hill and to the left if you walk up the hill from white lion. They were loud and fully happening at 2 pm on a Monday or Tuesday. I then walked down towards Bocatorena. If you are looking at bocatorena I took the street down to the left. There are 5-6 seedy bars with girls standing out front.

I didn't go in any of them because I was with a guy I am not sure is into this sort of thing and, frankly, it was all pretty sketchy. Anyone ever been in these places?

One noticeable thing is that to the right a little ways down the street there is an alley with a locked gate. If you look down it a bit (so the equivalent of being behind La Mayor) there was some sort of cheap working girl picnic party going on. I couldn't find anyway to access this back alley.

Also, I eventually made my way towards Avenue be and was walking to the 5 de mayo metro station. At some point to the left off of avenue be a 2 or 3 blocks before 5 de mayo was a street that from the signs appeared to be all *houses and / or bars with working girls. Anyone know what I am talking about? Has anyone been there?

I would not have done this during the day, FYI.

Gringucho
01-22-15, 16:50
Another great visit to PTY. Went to the electronic music festival this past weekend with my buddy and invited a few Colombians with us. I made some great contacts and found alternative chica friendly hotels besides the Venettto.

The girls tell me that the Trump is chica friendly. I did not stay there however I will next time due to my love and hate for the Veneto. I did stay one night at the Marriott and had no issues bringing Her with but then again I speak Spanish and the girl and I were seen walking in together and I did register one of my girlfriends names at the desk during check in.

Same hot spots, went to LE Palace just to show my buddy what he could have for 500+.

Went to Habanos to see if anything sparked my attention, and if no results ended at the Veneto where I could always find something to go up to my room with.

Great time full of GFE's. Got lots of numbers and a solid chica for my next trip back. Will be back before my trip to Costa Rica that's for sure.

Dickhead
01-22-15, 20:23
For someone so tough like you, that sounds pretty chicken to be afraid to be dropped off at your hotel (anywhere in the world). I get San Salvador, but PTY? Please. It sounds like you have hardly used taxis in PTY, so please report back after you actually have.Nope, haven't taken very many, as I clearly stated. In general I don't take many taxis. My policy of being dropped off elsewhere stems from a problem with a taxista in Medellin who switched out a counterfeit bill on me, and had I been following this policy I would have avoided a lot of hassle. In general, the fewer people who know where I am staying the better, and I do this in Anytown USA now, for that matter. Cuts down on crazed hookers waiting in your hotel lobby as well. Had that happen, too.

Jlalo
01-23-15, 13:32
Another great visit to PTY. Went to the electronic music festival this past weekend with my buddy and invited a few Colombians with us. I made some great contacts and found alternative chica friendly hotels besides the Venettto.

The girls tell me that the Trump is chica friendly. I did not stay there however I will next time due to my love and hate for the Veneto. I did stay one night at the Marriott and had no issues bringing Her with but then again I speak Spanish and the girl and I were seen walking in together and I did register one of my girlfriends names at the desk during check in.

Same hot spots, went to LE Palace just to show my buddy what he could have for 500+.

Went to Habanos to see if anything sparked my attention, and if no results ended at the Veneto where I could always find something to go up to my room with.

Great time full of GFE's. Got lots of numbers and a solid chica for my next trip back. Will be back before my trip to Costa Rica that's for sure.Thanks for the quick review. I am heading out there soon. I was wondering if you would be willing to share some contacts? There is nothing like hitting the ground with some tested and approved friends.

MadVillian
01-25-15, 17:26
Another great visit to PTY. Went to the electronic music festival this past weekend with my buddy and invited a few Colombians with us. I made some great contacts and found alternative chica friendly hotels besides the Venettto.

The girls tell me that the Trump is chica friendly. I did not stay there however I will next time due to my love and hate for the Veneto. I did stay one night at the Marriott and had no issues bringing Her with but then again I speak Spanish and the girl and I were seen walking in together and I did register one of my girlfriends names at the desk during check in.Besides the Trump hotel, what are some other chica friendly hotels?

El MonoCalvo
01-27-15, 00:39
I saw someone had mentioned a "rumored map". I never could find one so decided to make my own after a visit or two to Panama City a couple years ago. Unfortunately I've not been back to Panama in almost a year to do any updates but the main attractions should still be current. Panama City is pretty simple to navigate but this should help some fellow travelers.

https://www.google.com/maps/d/edit?mid=z9FaShEOr44Y.kGpB9T5ndkxQ&msa=0&ll=8.981997%2C-79.523141&spn=0.008033%2C0.013937

GauntMan
01-27-15, 04:03
I saw someone had mentioned a "rumored map". I never could find one so decided to make my own after a visit or two to Panama City a couple years ago. Unfortunately I've not been back to Panama in almost a year to do any updates but the main attractions should still be current. Panama City is pretty simple to navigate but this should help some fellow travelers.

https://www.google.com/maps/d/edit?mid=z9FaShEOr44Y.kGpB9T5ndkxQ&msa=0&ll=8.981997%2C-79.523141&spn=0.008033%2C0.013937This map is pretty accurate, you are missing Club Capri, from what I've seen on it.

VisitingPanama
01-27-15, 04:14
Besides the Trump hotel, what are some other chica friendly hotels?Hi guys,

Based on my own experience, I can recommend the Marriott Courtyard and the Hilton in Balbia Ave.

I had no problem going upstairs.

Jlalo
01-27-15, 14:19
I saw someone had mentioned a "rumored map". I never could find one so decided to make my own after a visit or two to Panama City a couple years ago. Unfortunately I've not been back to Panama in almost a year to do any updates but the main attractions should still be current. Panama City is pretty simple to navigate but this should help some fellow travelers.

https://www.google.com/maps/d/edit?mid=z9FaShEOr44Y.kGpB9T5ndkxQ&msa=0&ll=8.981997%2C-79.523141&spn=0.008033%2C0.013937I also created a map and I am going in 10 days. I will take a look at yours maybe we can merge them or I can add some things.

Tp Horn
01-27-15, 14:51
I saw someone had mentioned a "rumored map". I never could find one so decided to make my own after a visit or two to Panama City a couple years ago. Unfortunately I've not been back to Panama in almost a year to do any updates but the main attractions should still be current. Panama City is pretty simple to navigate but this should help some fellow travelers.

https://www.google.com/maps/d/edit?mid=z9FaShEOr44Y.kGpB9T5ndkxQ&msa=0&ll=8.981997%2C-79.523141&spn=0.008033%2C0.013937Great job on the map. Could I suggest 3 corrections?

Unless they've changed in the last few months, River Club and Relax Oriental are on Via Argentina just off Via Espana. Also, Royal Elegance on Via Porras merits a mention too.

VisitingPanama
01-27-15, 18:00
I also created a map and I am going in 10 days. I will take a look at yours maybe we can merge them or I can add some things.Hi Babe. Don't forget to call me if you need some companionship.

(507) 6220-5720

ViajeroGringo
01-28-15, 03:19
Hi guys,

Based on my own experience, I can recommend the Marriott Courtyard and the Hilton in Balbia Ave.

I had no problem going upstairs.Anyone know about the Intercontinental Miramar? I'll be there for a business trip, but may move if it impacts my weekend. Looks to be walking distance from Venato. Is it worth packing up for a little more convenience?

Mellowg
01-28-15, 05:15
Yup the February harvest just came in.

Since just after the holidays the picking was rather thin, IMHO. Reheated old hands and a smattering of Panamanians needing to pay for the holiday, s excess.

But from last week and oh no even from last night the collection has nearly doubled.

Many pretty faces, lots of spinners, and a few new giraffes.

There is nothing that smells better than new buns. So.

Come and get 'em while they are fresh and hot.

Th'is the season for new dreams.

Enjoy.

Mellow.

Tiny 12
01-28-15, 06:12
Anyone know about the Intercontinental Miramar? I'll be there for a business trip, but may move if it impacts my weekend. Looks to be walking distance from Venato. Is it worth packing up for a little more convenience?I stayed there and brought a date back, but she wasn't an obvious hooker and we went to the room at about 10:00 PM. The buffet restaurant kicks ass. The hotel is right on the water. I liked the place.

It would be around a 20 minute hike to the Veneto, so better to take a taxi for a couple of dollars. It is within easy walking distance to nightlife on Calle Uruguay and Elite, the strip club. Maybe 10 to 15 minutes on foot to Le Palace and Habano's. The location is good, although not as good as the Veneto. Quality wise the Intercontinental is better.

Dave1027
01-28-15, 19:04
Is that true that the Veneto has change there policy again on chica fee? I heard.

They have removed the chica fee? Any update will be nice to know?

Biff Dangler
01-29-15, 04:27
Great job on the map. Could I suggest 3 corrections?

Unless they've changed in the last few months, River Club and Relax Oriental are on Via Argentina just off Via Espana. Also, Royal Elegance on Via Porras merits a mention too.Where on via porras? I live near there.

As for Relax Oriental, I highly recommend it. In full disclosure I was at their Christmas party, so this is not exactly a disinterested report.

Tp Horn
01-29-15, 15:37
Where on via porras?150 m east of Grill 50, behind the tire shop, across from the gasolinera and Jade. There's an unmarked narrow drive going to a small occluded parking lot.

VisitingPanama
01-29-15, 21:42
Is that true that the Veneto has change there policy again on chica fee? I heard.

They have removed the chica fee? Any update will be nice to know?Hi,

As I explained on another forum thread. You will have no problem at Veneto.

A few days ago I got a call from a customer who was staying at the Hotel Veneto. I had no problem going upstairs. I entered the casino. I went to the second floor. The customer picked me up at the elevator in the second floor because in order to go up, we need to enter a key to the elevator. Everything went OK.

Kool99
02-03-15, 18:45
Hi guys,

Getting into Panama Next week and staying at the RIU hotel. Has anyone had any knowledge if the hotel is girl friendly?

MadVillian
02-03-15, 19:44
Hi,

As I explained on another forum thread. You will have no problem at Veneto.

A few days ago I got a call from a customer who was staying at the Hotel Veneto. I had no problem going upstairs. I entered the casino. I went to the second floor. The customer picked me up at the elevator in the second floor because in order to go up, we need to enter a key to the elevator. Everything went OK.What time was your visit to Veneto? They usually enforce the chica fee during the evening. Day time there is no guards at the elevator.

Joey Smith
02-04-15, 01:46
Is that true that the Veneto has change there policy again on chica fee? I heard.

They have removed the chica fee? Any update will be nice to know?Can someone let us know if the Veneto is still charging 50 to take a woman upstairs to your room? Be in town next week and still undecided about a hotel.

Thanks gents.

Tiny 12
02-04-15, 04:02
Hi guys,

Getting into Panama Next week and staying at the RIU hotel. Has anyone had any knowledge if the hotel is girl friendly?It reportedly is not. I stayed there with my girlfriend, and they did insist on seeing her passport when we registered. I remember because she was on her way to the bathroom while I was at the front desk and I had to go get her. I did see two or three women there with older gentlemen who appeared to be prostitutes. It's a fairly busy hotel and if you're discrete and your date isn't dressed like a sl*t, my guess is you'll be able to slip her in.

Biff Dangler
02-05-15, 19:46
I stayed at the El Amanecer hotel in El Carmen Friday and Saturday night as I had a friend from out of town in my apartment and needed to GTFO. I like the neighborhood and it is safe but if you have never been outside of El Cangrejo or the banking district you might be a little nervous.

It is 2 blocks from La Morena, which is the best regular bar in PTY (which is why I picked it).

Rooms are spacious and the internet is fast. Price is 45 bucks a night. Cash.

On checking in I told the lady that I had a girlfriend I might bring back and she said they didn't care.

The Saturday morning while waking out for a coffee I got in the elevator and a couple of dominican working girls were on their way out, so clearly it's girl friendly.

Anyway, just wanted to let ya'll know.

Oh, it is a 20-30 minute walk from Veneto, 2 or 2. 50 cab ride (please let's not start the cab ride discussion again).

NCal2014
02-06-15, 07:38
Can someone let us know if the Veneto is still charging 50 to take a woman upstairs to your room? Be in town next week and still undecided about a hotel.

Thanks gents.It is confirmed. Veneto is not charging chica fee anymore. This is from an amiga that works there presently via text.

Me: Dime Algo todavia cobran $50 por cada chica q sube al cuarto en el Veneto?

Her: Nop, Ya no bebe.

Me: Ok gracias bonita.

Joey Smith
02-07-15, 01:36
It is confirmed. Veneto is not charging chica fee anymore. This is from an amiga that works there presently via text.

Me: Dime Algo todavia cobran $50 por cada chica q sube al cuarto en el Veneto?

Her: Nop, Ya no bebe.

Me: Ok gracias bonita.Thank you. Will be at the Veneto from 16- 20 Feb. Let me know if your in town. Will buy a couple drinks for you.

MadVillian
02-07-15, 19:01
That's great news heading into low Season, hopefully it holds for a while.

Biff Dangler
02-07-15, 21:00
Yesterday around 4 pm I want to Bocatorena. It was totally packed. On the plus side the puke smell was less than usual. Anyway I couldn't even find a place to stand and have a few beers so I went into Mayorista next door for the first time.

It was 3 dollars to get in. Beers are $1. 65. The chicks are good looking. Much better than Bocatorena. There were some American guys in there I was talking to and they all said it was 30 dollars for 30 minutes. Not bad. Some of these chicks could have held their own at Habanos.

Anyway, I made the mistake of being pretty drunk for all of this. There was a smoking hot dominican chick. She told me $40 bucks. I said yeah ok. Then she said lets get a pticher of beer. 20 bucks. I said ok. Get this: It was just for her.

So anyway we went upstairs to fuck. The rooms were perfectly serviceable and again much better than Bocatorena.

All in all I paid 60 for an OK fuck from a hot chick.

I made all the rookie mistakes as a result of all the beer I drank all day.

However, the place is very promising. I'll go back sober next time. If it's truly just 30 bucks for 30 minutes then this is the place to be.

VisitingPanama
02-08-15, 21:19
Hi guys,

Getting into Panama Next week and staying at the RIU hotel. Has anyone had any knowledge if the hotel is girl friendly?As I explained in another message of mine, Hotel Riu is not girl friendly. 80 dollars will charge you.

VisitingPanama
02-08-15, 21:23
What time was your visit to Veneto? They usually enforce the chica fee during the evening. Day time there is no guards at the elevator.The time I went to the Veneto was at 1 PM.

VisitingPanama
02-08-15, 21:26
This week I went twice to the Marriot that is located in front of Habanos.

Tip, I did not enter to the hotel using the main entrance of the Hotel.

I went to the Casino, the customer pick me up at the Casino second floor and we went upstairs.

No charge at all.

So girl friendly.