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MarianoRiv
02-10-15, 14:41
Yesterday around 4 pm I want to Bocatorena. It was totally packed. On the plus side the puke smell was less than usual. Anyway I couldn't even find a place to stand and have a few beers so I went into Mayorista next door for the first time.

It was 3 dollars to get in. Beers are $1. 65. The chicks are good looking. Much better than Bocatorena. There were some American guys in there I was talking to and they all said it was 30 dollars for 30 minutes. Not bad. Some of these chicks could have held their own at Habanos.

Anyway, I made the mistake of being pretty drunk for all of this. There was a smoking hot dominican chick. She told me $40 bucks. I said yeah ok. Then she said lets get a pticher of beer. 20 bucks. I said ok. Get this: It was just for her.

So anyway we went upstairs to fuck. The rooms were perfectly serviceable and again much better than Bocatorena...Biff,

Thanks for this report. Last month, I intended to ask about this place, La Mayor, since it hadn't been mentioned recently. (Although Bocatorena has been discussed quite a bit lately.).

My own experience was that (on 3 different weekdays) I went to the fish market in the afternoon, and then walked down a little ways along the waterfront brick path, and then across the street and over to La Bocatorena. However, La Mayor was closed when I went in the afternoon, and a worker there told me that they would open after 6 pm.

It is good to hear that there is a nice selection at La Mayor, better than next door at Bocatorena. I thought Bocatorena was cool, but I also thought that only about 10% of the women were attractive there. So it's good to hear positive feedback about La Mayor. Next door to Bocatorena (on the left side) is a hooker bar called Interiorana, but I thought it was worse than Bocatorena. No bueno.

When I was in Panama City in November, the Veneto started the $50 chica fee (which I understand is now cancelled? I was staying at the Veneto, which I thought was pretty damn convenient, and the hotel rate was reasonable that week, however. It crossed my mind that on a future trip, it could be interesting to instead stay in Casco Viejo and hit La Bocatorena and La Mayor every day. To go heavy on Bocatorena and La Mayor, and go easy on Veneto and Habanos. Just a thought I had.

Biff Dangler
02-12-15, 17:44
Biff,

Thanks for this report. Last month, I intended to ask about this place, La Mayor, since it hadn't been mentioned recently. (Although Bocatorena has been discussed quite a bit lately.).

My own experience was that (on 3 different weekdays) I went to the fish market in the afternoon, and then walked down a little ways along the waterfront brick path, and then across the street and over to La Bocatorena. However, La Mayor was closed when I went in the afternoon, and a worker there told me that they would open after 6 pm.

It is good to hear that there is a nice selection at La Mayor, better than next door at Bocatorena. I thought Bocatorena was cool, but I also thought that only about 10% of the women were attractive there. So it's good to hear positive feedback about La Mayor. Next door to Bocatorena (on the left side) is a hooker bar called Interiorana, but I thought it was worse than Bocatorena. No bueno.

When I was in Panama City in November, the Veneto started the $50 chica fee (which I understand is now cancelled? I was staying at the Veneto, which I thought was pretty damn convenient, and the hotel rate was reasonable that week, however. It crossed my mind that on a future trip, it could be interesting to instead stay in Casco Viejo and hit La Bocatorena and La Mayor every day. To go heavy on Bocatorena and La Mayor, and go easy on Veneto and Habanos. Just a thought I had.Yeah I used to hit Veneto and Habanos hard. Not any more. I've learned how to bang hot chicks for 30 bucks or less at Mayor, Gruta Azul, and other places. Never going back to Habanos prices.

Spisol
02-12-15, 20:23
Heading to Panama in April. Can someone update me as to the cost of various institutions? I have been in a year and not sure if there has been inflation.

Elite 2, LE Palace, Ashe, Habanos?

Thanks

SagaraGun
02-14-15, 05:54
I'm am going to Panama in March and I'm thinking of staying at the Toscana Inn I have talked to a girl and she says that with previous costumers she has just gone up to the room without registering at the front desk, anyone knows if his is true and the hotel is girl friendly or do they charge a fee?

MadVillian
02-14-15, 16:48
This week I went twice to the Marriot that is located in front of Habanos.

Tip, I did not enter to the hotel using the main entrance of the Hotel.

I went to the Casino, the customer pick me up at the Casino second floor and we went upstairs.

No charge at all.

So girl friendly.That doesn't necessarily constitute 'Girl-Friendly'. You simply circumvented the hotels method of keeping P4 P away from the hotel. Its good information none the less, however I would would not call the Marriot across from Habanos chica friendly.

MadVillian
02-14-15, 16:51
The time I went to the Veneto was at 1 PM.They only enforce the chica fee during the evening. I'm still waiting to hear 100% that the chica fee in the evening is gone before I book with the Veneto.

Va Steve
02-14-15, 17:34
I'm am going to panama in March and I'm thinking of staying at the Toscana Inn I have talked to a girl and she says that with previous costumers she has just gone up to the room without registering at the front desk, anyone knows if his is true and the hotel is girl friendly or do they charge a fee?I raised the same question in the General forum, and a woman who is a regular on this board promised to investigate, but it looks like you've gotten some good information. What's your schedule? I'm also visiting March 18-22 and have reservations at the Toscana Inn.

SagaraGun
02-15-15, 02:18
I raised the same question in the General forum, and a woman who is a regular on this board promised to investigate, but it looks like you've gotten some good information. What's your schedule? I'm also visiting March 18-22 and have reservations at the Toscana Inn.Well the girl I talked to is one of the veterans of the Panama scene so I would like to trust what she says but I would like some confirmation just to be 100% sure, I think I will be going from the 10th to the 15th for a convention sorry that we are off by a few days.

Seismo
02-15-15, 16:00
The company that leases the sportsbook from the casino is moving out at the end of this month. The roof has leaked in the sportsbook for years and there have been buckets placed to catch the water.

Last month a large section of plaster gave way and the ceiling collapsed, luckily no injuries. The casino still has not made the repairs.

They have removed all the slot machines out of the back half of the casino. Casinos pay fees to the city based on the number of machines andtable games.

Also there appears to be at least five years of deferred maintenance on the rooms.

I would be careful about paying in advance for any stays over a month away.

Slam56
02-15-15, 18:16
It is confirmed. Veneto is not charging chica fee anymore. This is from an amiga that works there presently via text.

Me: Dime Algo todavia cobran $50 por cada chica q sube al cuarto en el Veneto?

Her: Nop, Ya no bebe.

Me: Ok gracias bonita.Good to hear I was there Dec 11th - 14th & they were charging. That was a big turn-off I vowed never to stay there again.

Biff Dangler
02-15-15, 18:20
Yesterday around 5 pm I went to Mayor and Bocatorena. I guess carnival is a bad time to go. In Mayor there were maybe 5 girls and all were dogs. Place was pack with dudes. So I went to Boca and it was like half the number of girls and twice the number of guys as usual. All girls were total skanks. Puke smell was running at 10/10, up from the 6-7/10 it usually is.

Dickhead
02-15-15, 21:42
See, that's why gringos say Panama and Costa Rica are overpriced. Here in Guatemala, no one would waste precious alcohol by puking it up, so it just smells like pure p!ss everywhere. Now if you want pretty much an even ratio of p!ss to puke, I recommend the resorts on the coast of Spain where the Brits go. They can't seem to hold either one. In Fuengirola they puke on the sidewalk and then p!ss in the puke to kinda wash it away a little bit.

Joey Smith
02-16-15, 01:02
They only enforce the chica fee during the evening. I'm still waiting to hear 100% that the chica fee in the evening is gone before I book with the Veneto.Be there from Monday to Thursday. I'll let you know. I've been told Veneto is not charging.

Joey Smith
02-17-15, 09:05
Be there from Monday to Thursday. I'll let you know. I've been told Veneto is not charging.No chica fee at the Veneto.

Best action was at Habanos. Lots of different candy to select.

Vitrea
02-18-15, 13:28
Any of you experts know if there is a good quality adult toy store in Panama city? If you do, please post name / directions. Thanks.

DuckmanII
02-22-15, 17:28
Got a room at the hard rock and also a room at Veneto. Just in case I can't get girls to the room at the hard rock. Is Veneto still charging a Chica fee? Any idea how hard it is to get a girl in your room at Hard Rock? Any suggestions on new places besides Habano and Veneto? Been to PTY a few times always stayed at Veneto but it has really gone down hill as far as the rooms and the maintenance issues. Looking forward to some hot Colombian pussy.

ViajeroGringo
02-24-15, 00:33
Just arrived today and bee-lined to Oasis. At 2:45, they were closed. Completely locked up. Almost looked permanent. So much for early bird special. I continued onto Golden Time at 5, and also locked up tight. Watchman said they don't open until 7:30. Oh well, guess I'll wait and find Havanos after supper. I walked in Venato and one girl was there's at 3. Tempted, but too early for that and I really wanted massage after plane ride.

Biff Dangler
02-24-15, 16:49
Just arrived today and bee-lined to oasis. At 2:45, they were closed. Completely locked up. Almost looked permanent. So much for early bird special. I continued onto Golden Time at 5, and also locked up tight. Watchman said they don't open until 7:30. Oh well, guess I'll wait and find Havanos after supper. I walked in Venato and one girl was there's at 3. Tempted, but too early for that and I really wanted massage after plane ride.Yeah for day time you want to be at Mayor.

LolwtfMan
02-24-15, 16:56
Hey,

By the looks of it the veneto fee seems to be gone. But I am wondering if any of the experts here have some suggestions for somewhat chica friendly hotels that are close to the Veneto?

A chica there gave me 3 other options via whatsapp: El principe, Torres de Alba, Granada.

Any input is welcome!

NCal2014
02-24-15, 18:35
Here is this one from Cali. She works at El Veneto. Beautiful nice and awesome service.

TellAll
02-24-15, 18:44
Here is this one from Cali. She works at El Veneto. Beautiful nice and awesome service.And price?

NCal2014
02-24-15, 23:40
And price?$80 or $100 can't remember exactly. I had a couple girls that night. She may start higher. Don't go more than $100. I was tired and came in on a late flight and was only in town for 1 night. Otherwise I may have gotten her down a little more.

Broski
02-25-15, 01:20
Just found this forum and really happy to get more intel on things! Been to PC 2 times before, once last year and once maybe 5 years back. This time will be my first time going solo without a bro that knows Spanish, so I am not too sure how I will fare not knowing a lick of Spanish. Would still like to give Bocatorena a try though.

Glad that the 50 $ chica fee was short lived at the Veneto, pretty surprising they would even initiate that since the only draw to staying there is the convenience of it all. I will be staying at the Veneto for probably the first 2 nights and moving onto the trump for the last 5 or so. Some intel (from last year): Hard rock was not chica friendly, charged. Trump for the 3 nights I was there had no problems, I don't think I even saw any staff late at night.

The trump def feels a bit out of the way but I really like the amenities and rooms. I wanted to give Waldorf Astoria a try since its closer to bars / restaurants etc and looks nice but after some extensive googling I found a review on a travel site.

"Security regards all females in hotel as prostitutes. Beware. Security prevented me from entering the hotel with my wife. Seems like this is common practice in this hotel as all females are treated as prostitutes. "

So for those of you thinking about Waldorf Astoria that might be a sign that its not chica friendly.

DuckmanII
02-25-15, 02:29
How are things looking at Habanos? Last trip was good. Hope there is a new batch since my last visit. Any one in town March 5 till March 8?

YippieKayay
02-26-15, 01:52
Has anyone had any recent experience at the Marriot that is in front of Habanos. I like the action at Habanos so much that for my next trip I want to book in a nice place near it. I really like getting an upscale suite too when I'm there.

ViajeroGringo
02-26-15, 06:38
I went tonight after long day of work hoping for a real massage, plus whatever else. Oasis is closed tight, with the sign off. One of the Venato girls said it has been closed for awhile. I was tired and it would be an early day, so I wasn't in mood for much negotiation and took a lovely Cali girl out for $150. We took cab around the block to a bar with rooms less than 200 yards from Venato. She said that would avoid hassle with cops. Room was $20. She was sweet and beautiful real tits. Almost GFE.

Monday, went to Havanas. A bit overwhelming! I left with another Cali girl for $130 (She started at $300) but very disappointing. Big fake hard tits, rushed service, and she was dressed 30 seconds afterward.

Not sure what's up for tomorrow.

Member #4476
02-26-15, 17:19
Just got back. As reported, Veneto is no longer charging chica fee BUT, they have not had A / see for one week. The rooms are hot as hell and everyone is complaining. This will be the last time here as this place has gone downhill rapidly. Three days by the pool there were no towels because the laundry was not working. The pool chairs are half broken and the whole place just looks like it is in a state of disrepair. There were a few hotties there late, usually because someone bought one back from Habano's and she came down to see if she could get another quick score. Most earlier in the night are more in the 5-7 range.

Habano's was once again off the charts with girls running all the way up to close to 10. Changes from last year were that most of the girls there that we talked to were Cuban. Most were nice but a couple were hassling trying to upcharge in the room. The hotter ones also start the negotiations out at 200 when last year they were starting at 150. Generally the price came down to close to 100 but some of the hotter ones would not budge from 150 and were so cute they were getting it. Columbians still there but seemed to us they were outnumbered by Cubans.

Biggest pain was Irene and most fun were Jenny and Lili, all from Cuba and all Blond.

ViajeroGringo
02-26-15, 23:55
Just got back. As reported, Veneto is no longer charging chica fee BUT, they have not had A / see for one week. The rooms are hot as hell and everyone is complaining. This will be the last time here as this place has gone downhill rapidly. Three days by the pool there were no towels because the laundry was not working. The pool chairs are half broken and the whole place just looks like it is in a state of disrepair. There were a few hotties there late, usually because someone bought one back from Habano's and she came down to see if she could get another quick score. Most earlier in the night are more in the 5-7 range.

Habano's was once again off the charts with girls running all the way up to close to 10. Changes from last year were that most of the girls there that we talked to were Cuban. Most were nice but a couple were hassling trying to upcharge in the room. The hotter ones also start the negotiations out at 200 when last year they were starting at 150. Generally the price came down to close to 100 but some of the hotter ones would not budge from 150 and were so cute they were getting it. Columbians still there but seemed to us they were outnumbered by Cubans.

Biggest pain was Irene and most fun were Jenny and Lili, all from Cuba and all Blond.Cabbie showed me Hawaii Massage and Kareoke this afternoon. Tempted for just a massage, but they didn't looked like skilled therapists and to ugly for anything else, especially as tired as I was after canal tour. Tee time, thanks for timely advice. I 'll hit Habanos tonight and will look for Jenny and Lili. Unless Mariana catches me playing at Venato or I loose my play money.

Tiny 12
02-27-15, 02:41
Cabbie showed me Hawaii Massage and Kareoke this afternoon. Tempted for just a massage, but they didn't looked like skilled therapists and to ugly for anything else, especially as tired as I was after canal tour. I've been there twice and each time there was one hottie and the rest were disgustingly ugly. I invited one of the hotties back to my hotel. She was native Panamanian, drop dead beautiful, intelligent (about to get her acccounting degree) and a lot of fun. Wish I'd stayed in touch.

Tiny 12
02-27-15, 02:47
Hey,

By the looks of it the veneto fee seems to be gone. But I am wondering if any of the experts here have some suggestions for somewhat chica friendly hotels that are close to the Veneto?

A chica there gave me 3 other options via whatsapp: El principe, Torres de Alba, Granada.

Any input is welcome!The Ejecutivo charged me $10 or $15 each time I brought a date back and it was no hassle whatsover. The Bristol charged me nothing but would make me register the girl or have her interviewed by security and did their best to make me feel uncomfortable. These are both very close to Habano, and in walking distance from Veneto. This info is several years old. I've stayed at the Veneto on recent trips, and agree that it's getting run down.

Dickhead
02-27-15, 05:03
Here is an offer for you guys. The next time I am in PC which will be late April or early May, I will make the following wager. You pick any three women from Hábanos that you think are the three hottest and I will bet you fifty dollars I can get at least one to fuck me for a hundred dollars. Might take me say an hour and a half or so, two hours tops.

Tiny 12
02-27-15, 22:11
Here is an offer for you guys. The next time I am in PC which will be late April or early May, I will make the following wager. You pick any three women from Hbanos that you think are the three hottest and I will bet you fifty dollars I can get at least one to fuck me for a hundred dollars. Might take me say an hour and a half or so, two hours tops.It would give me great satisfaction to win a bet with someone who has out gamed insurance companies and governments. You've got a deal, if you identify the women and then give me 15 minutes to talk with each before you approach them.

Dickhead
02-28-15, 01:32
That's not the deal. You identify the women and then I talk to them. Nací en la noche pero no fue anoche. If I pick them, you can just say they went for $100 because they were dogs. And if you talk to them, you can just offer to pay them not to take my offer. You pick them then you shut your pie hole and listen to the negotiations.

Tiny 12
02-28-15, 18:49
You'd probably win a fair bet. I'd pay $50 just to listen in on the negotiations though.

The chances I'll be in Panama when you'll be there are about 5%. If another member who can understand spanish reasonably well will sub for me and will provide a detailed report here on the dickhead negotiating method, it's a deal. And I'll kick in another non refundable $50 for booze.

Biff Dangler
02-28-15, 19:57
Here is an offer for you guys. The next time I am in PC which will be late April or early May, I will make the following wager. You pick any three women from Hbanos that you think are the three hottest and I will bet you fifty dollars I can get at least one to fuck me for a hundred dollars. Might take me say an hour and a half or so, two hours tops.I don't even think it would take an hour. I've only paid more than $100 the one time with Angela the Ukrainian.

Biff Dangler
02-28-15, 19:59
Cabbie showed me Hawaii Massage and Kareoke this afternoon. Tempted for just a massage, but they didn't looked like skilled therapists and to ugly for anything else, especially as tired as I was after canal tour. Tee time, thanks for timely advice. I 'll hit Habanos tonight and will look for Jenny and Lili. Unless Mariana catches me playing at Venato or I loose my play money.Where is that? I think maybe I was there once while drunk a few years ago. What rate were they asking?

MarianoRiv
02-28-15, 20:06
You'd probably win a fair bet. I'd pay $50 just to listen in on the negotiations though.

The chances I'll be in Panama when you'll be there are about 5%. If another member who can understand spanish reasonably well will sub for me and will provide a detailed report here on the dickhead negotiating method, it's a deal. And I'll kick in another non refundable $50 for booze.Hey,

I will be there April 18-23, so maybe I can partake in the bet, or split the $50 with Tiny12. I'd pay $25 for the opportunity.

I do need to point out that the premise of the bet is slightly ridiculous. I don't think it is especially challenging or special to sleep with a woman if you offer her $100 cash. Bear in mind, that in most corners of the world, or on most men's websites, the appropriate bet would be to see if you could get her to pay you to sleep with her (or buy the drinks or whatever). Or at the very least, to be able to do it without any money changing hands.

On another note, what is the deal with the Veneto and their issues with water / moisture? And someone said the air conditioners were not working either? What the heck is going on there? Also, last November there were 4 Cubanas there, and 2 of them were blonde, so they really stood out amongst the sea of brunettes from Colombia. I only met 2 Cubanas at Habano's. It sounds like there are a lot more there now? I wasn't too impressed by the 2 blondes, they were OK, but nothing special. The Cubana that impressed me was brunette and was at Habano's. Her real name is Rosalia (in her passport), but I don't know if she uses a fake name or not.

Dickhead
02-28-15, 23:14
Won't quite be there by the 23rd. Somewhere between April 26 and May 4. And remember, this bet is not to fuck a woman for $100 but to fuck one of the three hottest women in Hábanos. My point, of course, is that gringos are coming in and overpaying and that is what ruins places. I have never paid $100 in Hábanos but what some guys think is 'hot,' meaning colombianas all shot full of silicone, is not my idea of hot.

MarianoRiv
03-01-15, 00:15
Won't quite be there by the 23rd. Somewhere between April 26 and May 4. And remember, this bet is not to fuck a woman for $100 but to fuck one of the three hottest women in Hbanos. My point, of course, is that gringos are coming in and overpaying and that is what ruins places. I have never paid $100 in Hbanos but what some guys think is 'hot,' meaning colombianas all shot full of silicone, is not my idea of hot.Yeah D, good points. It is true about the overpaying part and the different flavors of "hotness". It does seem like it could and should be cheaper, like under $100, since there are so damn many gals in Habanos (and Veneto). A lot of chica competition (one would think) in Habanos! I would think that they would compete against each other by offering lower prices, but it doesn't seem to work that way. I guess one solution is to go to Bocatorena and La Mayor, where it's cheaper, but that is also a quite different experience than your own hotel room.

I'm not a fan of fake tits and asses, either, especially when they overdo it so much that it looks ridiculous!

YippieKayay
03-01-15, 02:03
Hey,

On another note, what is the deal with the Veneto and their issues with water / moisture? And someone said the air conditioners were not working either? What the heck is going on there? Also, last November there were 4 Cubanas there, and 2 of them were blonde, so they really stood out amongst the sea of brunettes from Colombia. I only met 2 Cubanas at Habano's. It sounds like there are a lot more there now? I wasn't too impressed by the 2 blondes, they were OK, but nothing special. The Cubana that impressed me was brunette and was at Habano's. Her real name is Rosalia (in her passport), but I don't know if she uses a fake name or not.Hey Mariano,

I'm curious but was the blonde Cuban at Veneto heavily tattooed? I recall seeing one blonde like that.

I'm currently putting a plan together to go down to PC again and I will include a five day stay at Playa Bonita. I know I have one Panamanian that will go for sure but I'd rather hit Habanos when I'm there and start forming new contacts to see if I catch a new one so I'll give it a 4 day stay in PC before Playa Bonita.

Have you guys been at Playa Bonita. I'm assuming if you arrive with the girl and you both check-in there's no issues at those resorts.

MarianoRiv
03-01-15, 19:45
Hey Mariano,

I'm curious but was the blonde Cuban at Veneto heavily tattooed? I recall seeing one blonde like that.

I'm currently putting a plan together to go down to PC again and I will include a five day stay at Playa Bonita. I know I have one Panamanian that will go for sure but I'd rather hit Habanos when I'm there and start forming new contacts to see if I catch a new one so I'll give it a 4 day stay in PC before Playa Bonita.

Have you guys been at Playa Bonita. I'm assuming if you arrive with the girl and you both check-in there's no issues at those resorts.Hey YippieKayay, we might be thinking of the same blonde at Veneto. The one I was with had a big tattoo on her right leg. A tattoo of roses or something like that. She went by the name of Isabel, I think, and I think she said she was 21 years old. And she explained how they have to make their way otherlay.

It does sound like an interesting plan that you have shared!

Member #4476
03-04-15, 19:06
There are still plenty of girls willing to take $100, even the hottest ones at Habano's and even less when you see them at Veneto later. My report was letting you guys know what is going on and trust me what people are paying. The girl may go with you for $100 but first, if she is super hot, she will do a circuit or two around the bar to see if she can get 150 plus. If not, she will definitely take 100. Less if she is just okay looking.

The problem of course is that sometimes you see the girl of your dreams and she will not be there later and you end up with a hottie still but not the one you wanted. That happened to me a couple of times when I scoffed at their price. A little part of me regretted it later but of course there is always the next night or you can dim the lights a little more. Good luck fellas and enjoy everything about the experience. Sitting outside smoking a Cuban, drinking a Scotch and getting ogled by beautiful women. Whatever your price point. That is a fun night.

Biff Dangler
03-05-15, 14:20
Just wanted to stop in and tell the forum that a buddy of mine has been staying at the intercontinental and he has been brining chicks there from Veneto and they are charging $20 per girl chica fee.

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03-05-15, 22:48
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03-06-15, 13:37
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ClubGentz
03-06-15, 15:19
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Biff Dangler
03-06-15, 18:51
Just stopped by to tell everyone about this helpful panama place to go to find out where to go to find Chica fee free places, and even get some nice looking girls with good prices and more, taxis, party supplies and toys, girls, yachts trips, chica fee free hotels, do a search on clubgentz, hope I've helped you guys out, tired of seeing people coming to Panama and get ripped off! By girls, cab drivers and hotels.Who did your website? I guarantee you nobody will ever book. Who in their right mind would fill out a form with all their contact info AND THEN have to write in the model name and the price they want to pay?

WTF?

Have you ever sold something on the internet before?

Tequila Tim
03-07-15, 16:20
Has anyone had any recent experience at the Marriot that is in front of Habanos. I like the action at Habanos so much that for my next trip I want to book in a nice place near it. I really like getting an upscale suite too when I'm there.I am curious too about the Marriott. Not only is it a nice hotel, it is located directly across the street from Habanos. I have a reservation at the Marriott for 2 guests next week and my question is this: Can I register (free of charge) a guest? I realize that if this is possible I could only register one guest per stay, but that's OK since I'm only staying one night at the Marriott before changing hotels the next day. Any thoughts guys?

BTW, will be there from 3/12 till 3/16 if anyone is up for a happy hour.

Thanks in advance,

TT

GoldenEagle
03-08-15, 01:23
I'm "passing through" PTY tomorrow and have about 4 1/2 hours. I know the odds are against me with it being daytime and Sunday, but I'd like to know what options I may have. I can get a room at the Veneto and hit the casino to see if there are any options. I figured this may be the best bet given that I'll have luggage with me. Any suggestions would be appreciated.

DuckmanII
03-08-15, 23:01
Trip has been good. Veneto girls asking 100. Meet 2 pretty ones on Friday night. Decent service. Went to Habanos and talent was decent. Did not ask prices was way drunk by that point. Back At Veneto to see what I might find on my last night.

Happy hunting.

Eleganza01
03-09-15, 15:57
Has anyone tried the clubgentz service in Panama?

I've been visiting the site, the girls are nice, they offer allot of personal services, they're really a personal concierge service, well.

Anyways, I skyped them, sent them a email, got a quote, man I got the Camila girl for 3 days at USD1500, went with her to the old city casco antiguo, dined at casca blanco, and Was awesome, they got good transport services too, drivers where friendly, usd25 bucks from airport to my apt suite in torres de alba hotel, all in all, had fun, came back to LA on Friday, going back on this Wednesday.

Vitrea
03-10-15, 01:19
Who did your website? I guarantee you nobody will ever book. Who in their right mind would fill out a form with all their contact info AND THEN have to write in the model name and the price they want to pay?

WTF?

Have you ever sold something on the internet before?I saw the site. I think you were being a bit too harsh. Ja ja.

They do give you an option to email, skype and what's app choices and you can ask for what you want. Agree that most won't fill a "form" and expect a girl to show up but if someone wants to, they have it.

This is just another service option and I like to encourage all forms of entrepreneurship.

Vitrea
03-10-15, 01:22
Has anyone tried the clubgentz service in Panama?

I've been visiting the site, the girls are nice, they offer allot of personal services, they're really a personal concierge service, well.

Anyways, I skyped them, sent them a email, got a quote, man I got the Camila girl for 3 days at USD1500, went with her to the old city casco antiguo, dined at casca blanco, and Was awesome, they got good transport services too, drivers where friendly, usd25 bucks from airport to my apt suite in torres de alba hotel, all in all, had fun, came back to LA on Friday, going back on this Wednesday.We would appreciate more info. How was the service? How many sessions a day etc? This is your first post about a new company so it is going to be met with some skepticism or possible suspicion of self promotion. More details that only a true monger would know, would help.

_ V.

Biff Dangler
03-10-15, 13:24
Has anyone tried the clubgentz service in Panama?

I've been visiting the site, the girls are nice, they offer allot of personal services, they're really a personal concierge service, well.

Anyways, I skyped them, sent them a email, got a quote, man I got the Camila girl for 3 days at USD1500, went with her to the old city casco antiguo, dined at casca blanco, and Was awesome, they got good transport services too, drivers where friendly, usd25 bucks from airport to my apt suite in torres de alba hotel, all in all, had fun, came back to LA on Friday, going back on this Wednesday.JaJajajajaja.

Your first post here? Come on. It's obvious you are the club gentz guy.

Biff Dangler
03-11-15, 05:01
Went with a buddy to Bocatorena. Tuesday night, 8:30 pm. Packed as usual. Neither of us were quite sure if we wanted to stay so we went to La Mayor.

Awesome. Only $1 cover charge each. Bucket of cervezas for $9. 00. A couple of hotties, fucked them for $20.

Eleganza01
03-11-15, 15:42
Went with a buddy to Bocatorena. Tuesday night, 8:30 pm. Packed as usual. Neither of us were quite sure if we wanted to stay so we went to La Mayor.

Awesome. Only $1 cover charge each. Bucket of cervezas for $9. 00. A couple of hotties, fucked them for $20.Man why don't you stop lying or BS people?

Your calling awesome one of the most insecure places in Panama.

La Mayor is close to the fish market in Casco viejo / old city smells bad, working girls there are ugly as f. And beer is cheap obviously how would they ever attract any customers or men to go there.

Hey Danger you want to give advice or write something good on this page please do rightfully so, but don't write crap ok?

That fact that you even went there says allot about you man, cheap, quick to take the worst or cheapest deal for your money and no clue whatsoever what your talking about!

People like you are the kind that refer people to something than later say: Oh really?, well that's not what they told me!, yeah I mean I didn't say I went there myself I said it was like I was there myself.

GauntMan
03-11-15, 23:13
Has anyone tried the clubgentz service in Panama?

I've been visiting the site, the girls are nice, they offer allot of personal services, they're really a personal concierge service, well.

Anyways, I skyped them, sent them a email, got a quote, man I got the Camila girl for 3 days at USD1500, went with her to the old city casco antiguo, dined at casca blanco, and Was awesome, they got good transport services too, drivers where friendly, usd25 bucks from airport to my apt suite in torres de alba hotel, all in all, had fun, came back to LA on Friday, going back on this Wednesday.1500 for 3 days? Jesus f949 kin christ! I could hire a girls for the whole month and more for that! You sir, got ripped.

GauntMan
03-11-15, 23:17
Man why don't you stop lying or BS people?

Your calling awesome one of the most insecure places in Panama.

La Mayor is close to the fish market in Casco viejo / old city smells bad, working girls there are ugly as f. And beer is cheap obviously how would they ever attract any customers or men to go there.

Hey Danger you want to give advice or write something good on this page please do rightfully so, but don't write crap ok?

That fact that you even went there says allot about you man, cheap, quick to take the worst or cheapest deal for your money and no clue whatsoever what your talking about!

People like you are the kind that refer people to something than later say: Oh really?, well that's not what they told me!, yeah I mean I didn't say I went there myself I said it was like I was there myself.Actually, the Casco Viejo area where La Mayor and La Bocatorea are, is quite safe. See, the area is very near the presidential palace, and the area is patrolled by the SPI, which is the equivalent of the Secret Service, but. way below their qualifications.

You will see patrols every now and then roaming on foot and in cars.

If you get lucky, in both places you might be able to find a gem. Going there doesn't say anything at all, just think that you are heading into the Chapinero area of Bogota.

Biff Dangler
03-12-15, 15:18
Man why don't you stop lying or BS people?

Your calling awesome one of the most insecure places in Panama.

La Mayor is close to the fish market in Casco viejo / old city smells bad, working girls there are ugly as f. And beer is cheap obviously how would they ever attract any customers or men to go there.

Hey Danger you want to give advice or write something good on this page please do rightfully so, but don't write crap ok?

That fact that you even went there says allot about you man, cheap, quick to take the worst or cheapest deal for your money and no clue whatsoever what your talking about!

People like you are the kind that refer people to something than later say: Oh really?, well that's not what they told me!, yeah I mean I didn't say I went there myself I said it was like I was there myself.First of all, you are either a moron who paid 1,500 for 3 days, or you are the club gentz guy. Most likely you are the club gentz guy.

But, here is how I can prove you wrong on your assertions!

Behold, the two videos I took from La Mayor!

https://vid.me/0a8r

https://vid.me/PCUN

First video: Hot chick plus scorpions. Downside is I was way timid with the camera.

Second video: I was less timid with the camera but the chick is just ok.

Are you going to apologize now for your false assertions?

Also, look, it's fine you are promoting club gentz, but if you cross the line into attacking people who post reviews I assure you that you will only be hurting your business.

Are you going to apologize now?

Biff Dangler
03-12-15, 15:44
Actually, the Casco Viejo area where La Mayor and La Bocatorea are, is quite safe. See, the area is very near the presidential palace, and the area is patrolled by the SPI, which is the equivalent of the Secret Service, but. way below their qualifications.

You will see patrols every now and then roaming on foot and in cars.

If you get lucky, in both places you might be able to find a gem. Going there doesn't say anything at all, just think that you are heading into the Chapinero area of Bogota.Also, Mayor always (or at least when I have been there) has a cop inside the club.

YippieKayay
03-13-15, 00:54
1500 for 3 days? Jesus f949 kin christ! I could hire a girls for the whole month and more for that! You sir, got ripped.Ripped off is an understatement. I got a girl for a whole week to fuck, translate, show me around Panama, and practically live with me for less than 500. That's not counting what food or drinks I bought her (she barely drank).

Yeah, $1,500 is highway robbery IMHO.

Broski
03-13-15, 17:55
Was at the Veneto last night. Casino was moderately full, lots of chicas. Apparently AC in the rooms is fixed but last night ac in the casino was not working, fans on full blast but felt like a sauna. Cute Colombian said 150 I declined, after a bit she saw me again and we negotiated to 100. She was fun. Prob going to head to Habanos tonight.

Any spots for day time action besides La mayor?

Broski
03-15-15, 19:13
Hotel update:

Hilton on Balboa.

For the first 2 nights I got chicas to my room no problem. Yesterday at around 1:30 am brought a chica back, security guard ran me down and made me go to front desk. Asked 100 $, thinking with my other head I put it on my other bill. Could be the time of night where they are on alert (there was also a security guard at the casino elevator going to the hotel). Checking out today and moving to a new hotel, too bad because I liked the Hilton.

Talked with some guys at Veneto. As others on the board said, there is no more chica fee but the rooms are really run down. Still no ac at casino last night.

Hobbiest1
03-16-15, 23:09
Hi everyone! I live in San Diego and usually monger in Tijuana although I have been known to travel to the Phils and BKK. This is my first time visiting the PTY and I would like to know if the Novotel is Chica friendly? If not I have RTFF to find that the Veneto is CF and the Tryp is NOT CF. Is there any knd of list that just has a hotel name and Chica Friendly Yes / NO? I would defeinitely appreciate input as I am a PTY newb. I am going April 17 - 21. Thanks in advance for all your friendly advice. H1.

Biff Dangler
03-17-15, 22:55
Hotel update:

Hilton on Balboa.

For the first 2 nights I got chicas to my room no problem. Yesterday at around 1:30 am brought a chica back, security guard ran me down and made me go to front desk. Asked 100 $, thinking with my other head I put it on my other bill. Could be the time of night where they are on alert (there was also a security guard at the casino elevator going to the hotel). Checking out today and moving to a new hotel, too bad because I liked the Hilton.

Talked with some guys at Veneto. As others on the board said, there is no more chica fee but the rooms are really run down. Still no ac at casino last night.Was there anyone else there? I have walked by it a few times around 9 pm and noticed at most 2 lights on in guest rooms.

Biff Dangler
03-17-15, 22:57
I have it on pretty good authority that the Veneto is going to close imminently. They haven't paid mortgage, can't do basic maintenances. They are searching for a buyer but can't fine one.

Give hotel occupancy rates and capital improvements needed it sounds like they really have no chance of finding one.

I would advise against prepaying for any stays there.

MadVillian
03-18-15, 02:41
Thanks for the heads up Biff, got a trip to PTY planned for May and was going to stay at Veneto again.

Usually I prepay on hotels.com because its cheaper then anywhere else ($70-90 USD / night). The only draw back was its billed immediately.

Thanks again.

MadVillian
03-18-15, 02:42
Hi everyone! I live in San Diego and usually monger in Tijuana although I have been known to travel to the Phils and BKK. This is my first time visiting the PTY and I would like to know if the Novotel is Chica friendly? If not I have RTFF to find that the Veneto is CF and the Tryp is NOT CF. Is there any knd of list that just has a hotel name and Chica Friendly Yes / NO? I would defeinitely appreciate input as I am a PTY newb. I am going April 17 - 21. Thanks in advance for all your friendly advice. H1.Novotel is not CF.

RichardScott
03-18-15, 13:25
Hi everyone! I live in San Diego and usually monger in Tijuana although I have been known to travel to the Phils and BKK. This is my first time visiting the PTY and I would like to know if the Novotel is Chica friendly? If not I have RTFF to find that the Veneto is CF and the Tryp is NOT CF. Is there any knd of list that just has a hotel name and Chica Friendly Yes / NO? I would defeinitely appreciate input as I am a PTY newb. I am going April 17 - 21. Thanks in advance for all your friendly advice. H1.I don't think Novotel is chica friendly at all, not even paying for an extra fee for her, there's like 0 tolerance for hookers there.

If you are looking somewhere near that same area you should probably check out: Hotel Milan, Toscana Inn, Torres de Alba (all 3 are walking distance from Veneto / same street).

If you go to more expensive hotels nearby like the Marriott or Hotel Panama they will most likely give you trouble, in those places there's no extra fee for the girl, they simply won't allow it.

If you go to these lesser known / smaller local hotels they tend to be more flexible, some will probably want to charge you for taking a girl to your room, some won't.

I personally have never had to pay a chica-fee because we just walk straight to the elevator and nobody in over 5 years has stopped me, but I've heard other guys who haven't been as lucky.

Also, if this is your first time in Panama let me tell you something. Many guys bring back streetwalkers, which they've met outside Habano's, at the Veneto casino floor or just by the street corner, but there's a law that requires all girls working at strip clubs and massage parlors to be tested weekly for STDs.

I have been with a couple of girls I've called from online ads or have met at casinos, etc. But 90% of the time I usually go to the strip clubs and massage parlors and fuck the girl right there on site in one of their rooms. I have asked most of the girls working there about being tested and they have confirmed it.

All of these places are frequently visited by health inspectors that make sure that every girl is clean and up to date, etc.

I'm here until late April and I have my own car, so if you'll like to ask me any further questions or would like to meet once you have arrived so that we can go to some of these places just tell me and I'll post my cellphone number or Skype username so that we can get in touch.

RichardScott
03-18-15, 13:38
Hotel update:

Hilton on Balboa.

For the first 2 nights I got chicas to my room no problem. Yesterday at around 1:30 am brought a chica back, security guard ran me down and made me go to front desk. Asked 100 $, thinking with my other head I put it on my other bill. Could be the time of night where they are on alert (there was also a security guard at the casino elevator going to the hotel). Checking out today and moving to a new hotel, too bad because I liked the Hilton.

Talked with some guys at Veneto. As others on the board said, there is no more chica fee but the rooms are really run down. Still no ac at casino last night.I have never been stopped when bringing a chica to my room, but something I've done when filling my hotel reservation before my trip is that I check if the room rate changes if I select 1 or 2 guests. If it doesn't I choose 2 guests and therefore if anything does happen when bringing a girl, that's my argument: "Check my reservation. How are you going to charge me extra if I am already paying the rate for 2 people!" - Still $100 seems extremely steep, I would have offered them $20 at the most, there are places called Push Buttons which are "love hotels" all around Panama where you can get a room and 2 condoms for about +/- $20 for 2 hours. Which I would have preferred going to, instead of paying them $100 for no reason. $50 are going to the front desk guy and $50 to the security guy.

And $50 for each one of them is about 3 full work days salary (they probably make about $500-$700 a month).

Predator II
03-18-15, 22:19
Thanks for the heads up Biff, got a trip to PTY planned for May and was going to stay at Veneto again.

Usually I prepay on hotels.com because its cheaper then anywhere else ($70-90 USD / night). The only draw back was its billed immediately.

Thanks again.Anyone have an ideas on where the girls would migrate to if the Veneto closed?

MarianoRiv
03-18-15, 23:28
I have it on pretty good authority that the Veneto is going to close imminently. They haven't paid mortgage, can't do basic maintenances. They are searching for a buyer but can't fine one.

Give hotel occupancy rates and capital improvements needed it sounds like they really have no chance of finding one.

I would advise against prepaying for any stays there.Biff,

Do you have any idea when they might close? I did pre-pay there for April. Just wondering if I should cancel, in your opinion.

Thanks

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RichardScott
03-19-15, 11:17
Anyone have an ideas on where the girls would migrate to if the Veneto closed?Let's see. 4 potential locations come to mind.

My #1 bet is a Chinese owned hotel near El Dorado area. It's near TGI Fridays. That area is already popular with strip clubs and massage parlors. And chicas can find apartments at affordable prices. I think the hotel is Golden Lion (not sure of the name). And it's casino is right at the entrance / ground floor. Plus the area has a couple of nearby hotels (though not as many nor as affordable as their current location near Veneto which I believe is called El Cangrejo / Via Espana).

Another option and the closest / most similar place would be the casino of the Hotel Panama, where I have previously heard that chicas have been around even before Veneto opened, it never really became that well known because the hotel does not allow you to bring chicas to your room, even if you are willing to pay a chica fee. They are aiming at a more reputable / family-friendly atmosphere.

That area is filled with other smaller hotels that will allow you to bring girls over. So you would probably meet the girl at the casino of Hotel Panama (Fiesta Casino), you'll just have to cross the street or take a very quick taxi ride ($2 at the most for both of you) and take her to your nearby hotel.

The other 2 spots would probably be the Majestic Casino at Multicentro Shopping Center. You would meet the girl at the casino and take her to your room at the Radisson Hotel or at the Hard Rock which basically share the same building. But this is not likely because apartments for chicas are not as affordable in that area. It's the same thing when considering the Trump casino / hotel. These two areas don't offer affordable lodging for the chicas either.

At the end of the day we'll have to wait for them to actually close Veneto to see where the girls end up, hopefully this board will spread the word quickly!

Biff Dangler
03-19-15, 21:31
Biff,

Do you have any idea when they might close? I did pre-pay there for April. Just wondering if I should cancel, in your opinion.

ThanksI was told 60-90 days at most, which incidentally coincides with tourist season. I would think in April you would be ok. Typically may is the big drop in gringo visitors.

Va Steve
03-19-15, 23:58
Got to Panama City yesterday and checked out the Veneto last night. It looks like they solved the AC problem in the casino; temperature was comfortable. Approximately 80 women were there around 9:30. I always have a hard time choosing, but I got a Colombian who spoke good English and we had a great time. She told me something I haven't seen mentioned before; Veneto registers the women, gives them a wristband and charges them $25 for the privilege of soliciting there. She saw the logbook, which is how I estimated the turnout. BTW, I'm staying at Savilla Suites apartments; a five minute walk from Veneto and no problems bringing women in.

RichardScott
03-20-15, 01:35
Got to Panama City yesterday and checked out the Veneto last night. It looks like they solved the AC problem in the casino; temperature was comfortable. Approximately 80 women were there around 9:30. I always have a hard time choosing, but I got a Colombian who spoke good English and we had a great time. She told me something I haven't seen mentioned before; Veneto registers the women, gives them a wristband and charges them $25 for the privilege of soliciting there. She saw the logbook, which is how I estimated the turnout. BTW, I'm staying at Savilla Suites apartments; a five minute walk from Veneto and no problems bringing women in.I thought they had stopped charging the girls to work there. But well. Apparently they are doing it again. The wristband detail is quite interesting, because that way you can 100% identify which are working girls, so you can approach them knowing with complete certainty. Which color is the wristband. Is it the same color every night?

JamesPearle
03-20-15, 07:09
Going to be visiting PC in a couple of days. What would someone be looking at dropping to snag top shelf primo pussy for 2+ hours of GFE / PSE? I am mainly interested in quality vs cheap. Between casinos, strip clubs, and online services, what's the best way to snag top shelf chicas?

Va Steve
03-21-15, 05:17
I thought they had stopped charging the girls to work there. But well. Apparently they are doing it again. The wristband detail is quite interesting, because that way you can 100% identify which are working girls, so you can approach them knowing with complete certainty. Which color is the wristband. Is it the same color every night?Today's color was red; yesterday's was yellow.

RichardScott
03-21-15, 12:25
Going to be visiting PC in a couple of days. What would someone be looking at dropping to snag top shelf primo pussy for 2+ hours of GFE / PSE? I am mainly interested in quality vs cheap. Between casinos, strip clubs, and online services, what's the best way to snag top shelf chicas?Well, the two most high-end places are LE Palace and Elite near the Calle 50 area. You can't fuck the girls on site though. There's a fee to take the chica with you for a couple of hours or the entire evening and then you have to pay the girl. So expect to spend about +/- $400 for a fuck.

Both of these places are strip clubs and are located at walking distance from each other, but there are many other places around the city which are worth visiting (where you can find some girls who are just as hot at more affordable prices. Like Miami, Gold Fingers, Capri. And you get to fuck them on site).

Actually last October I was in PC for about 10 days and found a girl working at Capri that used to work at LE Palace. Her name is Angie (a stunning Colombian redhead) one hour was about $100 at the local rate (not the gringo rate). So it was quite affordable.

If it's your first time visiting PC you would probably like to at least get to know both places (LE Palace and Elite). You could begin your evening there, have a couple of drinks, watch a show before heading somewhere else.

Since my early trips to PC (when time allows), I've hired a local guy who serves as a "tour guide", but instead of taking people to museums and shit, he takes his customers to where the chicas are, he works independently and speaks perfect English (and apparently has no kickbacks from these places). He haggles everywhere and manages to get the girls at local rate instead of gringo rate, plus he serves as my personal driver and translator.

I only hire him for 1-2 days on each trip at the most, the other days I'm busy working or have been able to manage by myself. But if you need someone to show you around you can contact him on whatsapp. +507 6427-8362, his name is Eric. Last time his rate was $150 a day (he picks you up and drops you off at your hotel).

So far he's been reliable, but remember to always be alert when traveling (even more if it's a solo trip and most people speak a different language than yours).

Hobbiest1
03-21-15, 14:48
Well, the two most high-end places are LE Palace and Elite near the Calle 50 area. You can't fuck the girls on site though. There's a fee to take the chica with you for a couple of hours or the entire evening and then you have to pay the girl. So expect to spend about +/- $400 for a fuck.

Both of these places are strip clubs and are located at walking distance from each other, but there are many other places around the city which are worth visiting (where you can find some girls who are just as hot at more affordable prices. Like Miami, Gold Fingers, Capri. And you get to fuck them on site).

Actually last October I was in PC for about 10 days and found a girl working at Capri that used to work at LE Palace. Her name is Angie (a stunning Colombian redhead) one hour was about $100 at the local rate (not the gringo rate). So it was quite affordable.

If it's your first time visiting PC you would probably like to at least get to know both places (LE Palace and Elite). You could begin your evening there, have a couple of drinks, watch a show before heading somewhere else.

Since my early trips to PC (when time allows), I've hired a local guy who serves as a "tour guide", but instead of taking people to museums and shit, he takes his customers to where the chicas are, he works independently and speaks perfect English (and apparently has no kickbacks from these places). He haggles everywhere and manages to get the girls at local rate instead of gringo rate, plus he serves as my personal driver and translator.

I only hire him for 1-2 days on each trip at the most, the other days I'm busy working or have been able to manage by myself. But if you need someone to show you around you can contact him on whatsapp. +507 6427-8362, his name is Eric. Last time his rate was $150 a day (he picks you up and drops you off at your hotel).

So far he's been reliable, but remember to always be alert when traveling (even more if it's a solo trip and most people speak a different language than yours).RichardScott. I think your Skype response may have been blocked. I have premium membership. If you do go ahead and PM me. If not, I will post a time and place to meet me next month as the date gets closer. Cheers! H1.

Biff Dangler
03-24-15, 11:52
So, I decided to quit drinking during the week. As a result I didn't really no what to do with myself last night so went for a long walk and decided to hit Veneto and Habanos. A / see was on at Veneto but not as cold as usual. The entire back fifth to a quarter of the casino floor no longer has slot machines.

When a casino takes out slot machines, you know there is a problem. However, that bar in the way back corner is still open.

From sitting there I figured out that the ladies now come in through the door at the far back right, then come over to the little bar where a Veneto employee (in addition to bartender) sits and charges them for the red bracelet they need.

I think someone else here suggested the charge was 35 bucks. All I can tell you is that it is more than 20 and less than 40 because the girls were paying with two twenties and getting some amount of change back.

I wasn't in the mongering mood, but the quality is usual I. E. Diverse range, some great, but overall a tad worse than Habanos.

As a tip though if you are an early bird and you want first dibs on a chick before everyone else has railed her that night I would sit in that back corner bar.

Later I walked over to Habanos and it was great as usual. Left early because even sober I thought I was about to have to bang something but really didn't want to bust my budget for the week on a Monday.

Happy mongering.

On a side not I mentioned in my previous comments on Veneto that logically speaking they wouldn't close before high season is over. As high season comes to an end I know two restaurants that have shut down in the last few days and closed their doors for good.

I hope Veneto goes they at least have one week-long bash with the Salsa bands like they used to have on Wednesday nights back in the day.

Va Steve
03-25-15, 04:18
To update my earlier report, I met two lovely Colombians who were great, did a threesome with two Cubans (sexy babes who did the job, but were by no means GFE), and a Panamanian. She had no bracelet and was dressed more like a gambler than a hooker, so a bracelet is not a sure indicator. I never made it to Habanos because the selection at Veneto was pretty good. I think my next trip will be to Colombia!

Although I cruised right in my hotel (Savilla Suites) with my Colombian the first night, the next two nights I was stopped by the woman at the desk who scanned the women's identification and charged me a $20 fee. The last night might have been a different clerk who scanned the woman's identification but didn't ask me for money.

Predator II
03-25-15, 17:48
Does anybody know if the Continental Hotel is chica friendly? I have.

Never seen it mentioned before.

I picked up a local chica that had run out of money gambling on.

My last trip but we took a taxi to my hotel.

Damages were $180 TLN (+breakfast +taxi home in the morning).

Looks 5-6, attitude 7-8, skills 4-5, had to do a little training.

TY for any info.

Mfins
03-27-15, 05:03
I was told 60-90 days at most, which incidentally coincides with tourist season. I would think in April you would be ok. Typically may is the big drop in gringo visitors.Someone will buy or take over the Veneto. It is a Wyndam property. It will be renovated to some degree depending on how much the new investor wants to invest and reopen. The only issue is if The new owner or ownership group will want to allow the Girls back in there or go a different direction. The Property will not sit vacant for long.

Tiny 12
03-28-15, 02:22
Does anybody know if the Continental Hotel is chica friendly? I have.

Never seen it mentioned before.

I picked up a local chica that had run out of money gambling on.

My last trip but we took a taxi to my hotel.

Damages were $180 TLN (+breakfast +taxi home in the morning).

Looks 5-6, attitude 7-8, skills 4-5, had to do a little training.

TY for any info.I've stayed there twice and brought several women back. However, since then, I read at least one report here about someone who had problems. If you stay there get a room on a high floor or otherwise the street noise will drive you crazy.

RichardScott
03-29-15, 04:59
RichardScott. I think your Skype response may have been blocked. I have premium membership. If you do go ahead and PM me. If not, I will post a time and place to meet me next month as the date gets closer. Cheers! H1.H1!

Yes, apparently they did block my Skype response.

Anyways, I was supposed to stay till late April but will have to cut the trip short, post any questions you've got and I'll respond.

Also, as I have already told some other guys, If it's your first visit, you can hire a local driver that will take you to all of these spots. His name is Eric, speaks good English, picks / drops you off at your hotel, his cell / whatsapp is +507 6427-8362.

Doing this is actually cheaper than taking a taxi, because taxi drivers besides their fare they get a kickback for getting you to the club and once you are there the club charges you gringo rates. With this guy as your swingman he'll get you the local rate. But if you are fluent in Spanish maybe you'll be able to manage on your own.

Regarding escort sites, I've read some comments about the photos being fake and shit about the girls sent not being the ones advertised. So I used Google image search. And indeed most sites use fake pics. If there's anyone who can recommend a reliable one I'd appreciate it. Also so that it doesn't get blocked just type the "name" of the site, and NOT the actual address.

Thanks guys!

Magzzz
03-30-15, 12:58
I'm planning a trip to PTY in mid-May. I usually stay at the Veneto, but I read that it looks like that hotel may be closing down. Is there any truth to this rumor? Anyone have the latest news?

Thanks

Hobbiest1
03-30-15, 22:04
H1!

Yes, apparently they did block my Skype response.

Anyways, I was supposed to stay till late April but will have to cut the trip short, post any questions you've got and I'll respond.

Also, as I have already told some other guys, If it's your first visit, you can hire a local driver that will take you to all of these spots. His name is Eric, speaks good English, picks / drops you off at your hotel, his cell / whatsapp is +507 6427-8362.

Doing this is actually cheaper than taking a taxi, because taxi drivers besides their fare they get a kickback for getting you to the club and once you are there the club charges you gringo rates. With this guy as your swingman he'll get you the local rate. But if you are fluent in Spanish maybe you'll be able to manage on your own.

Regarding escort sites, I've read some comments about the photos being fake and shit about the girls sent not being the ones advertised. So I used Google image search. And indeed most sites use fake pics. If there's anyone who can recommend a reliable one I'd appreciate it. Also so that it doesn't get blocked just type the "name" of the site, and NOT the actual address.

Thanks guys!RScott. I will be there on the 23rd. You? I appreciate the info on Eric. I may contact him but I tend to enjoy the adventure without a guide as I have done it both ways in the past. Thanks again and remember the most popular email in the world is GMail! ! PWhiteCarlsbad.

JHolmes
03-31-15, 04:08
Was in Habanos tonight and picked this pretty Cuban girl for some fun. Her price was a bit steep. Asking $200 but negotiated it down to a more sensible figure. Had asked the doorman in advance if there was a chica fee and he said no. However, as I came back with her, the reception made me pay €38.50 though I had booked and paid for a double room. Well, too late to walk away so paid it. My advice: Do not stay at Hampton unless you are with a family just keeping this place as a base for sight seeing tours. Rooms are nice but that's about it.

Mfins
04-01-15, 05:15
Was in Habanos tonight and picked this pretty Cuban girl for some fun. Her price was a bit steep. Asking $200 but negotiated it down to a more sensible figure. Had asked the doorman in advance if there was a chica fee and he said no. However, as I came back with her, the reception made me pay 38.50 though I had booked and paid for a double room. Well, too late to walk away so paid it. My advice: Do not stay at Hampton unless you are with a family just keeping this place as a base for sight seeing tours. Rooms are nice but that's about it.Interesting now that the cuban govt has relaxed there policies and are issuing more travel permits for residents there is an influx of cuban girls going to Panama to work. I was there about a 6-8 months ago and saw 3 cuban girls at Veneto. The first ones. I was shocked when they said they were from Cuba. Anyway, I wonder how the Colombianas feel about the Cubans invading there territory (Panama).

Biff Dangler
04-01-15, 22:30
Interesting now that the cuban govt has relaxed there policies and are issuing more travel permits for residents there is an influx of cuban girls going to Panama to work. I was there about a 6-8 months ago and saw 3 cuban girls at Veneto. The first ones. I was shocked when they said they were from Cuba. Anyway, I wonder how the Colombianas feel about the Cubans invading there territory (Panama).Well, I have discussed it with a number of Colombiana's and from that and my own observations the Colombians were pissed when the Cubans were undercutting them in price. So they put the pressure on them and now the Cuban's are asking the same high prices.

On a side note:

On Monday I again went to veneto around 8:45 pm and sat at the back corner bar and had a few beers. It was like heaven. When the women come in that is where they pay for their wristbands so you get first dibs on talking to all of them.

The Cane
04-01-15, 23:25
Well, I have discussed it with a number of Colombiana's and from that and my own observations the Colombians were pissed when the Cubans were undercutting them in price. So they put the pressure on them and now the Cuban's are asking the same high prices.Damn, I was hoping that the Cuban girls would start flooding certain markets giving the Colombians some competition! I really want to get my hands on some Cubans, especially after I had my one and only in Sevilla, Spain. Girl was fucking gorgeous and looked like Fergie from the group The Black-eyed Peas, but only prettier in my estimation. Got all up in that blonde "ano" you better believe me! Bring on the Cubanas! I think that to get good prices we would have to go to Cuba itself away from the "bad" influence of the Colombianas.

Hobbiest1
04-02-15, 00:19
Well, I have discussed it with a number of Colombiana's and from that and my own observations the Colombians were pissed when the Cubans were undercutting them in price. So they put the pressure on them and now the Cuban's are asking the same high prices.

On a side note:

On Monday I again went to veneto around 8:45 pm and sat at the back corner bar and had a few beers. It was like heaven. When the women come in that is where they pay for their wristbands so you get first dibs on talking to all of them.Dude. This info is In-Fucking-Valuable! I am staying at the V from April 23 to when ever but I wanted to thank you! Can I buy you a drink in that corner bar? H1.

AllStar86
04-03-15, 00:59
Hello everyone,

I will be in PTY tomorrow and looking to see if anyone else will be there. I will just be there for the weekend and looking to get out and see what's going on.

TravelDude
04-03-15, 02:59
Just came back from the Veneto, been going for seven years.

Haven't been back in six months, and yes, there are Cubans and Dominicans, and of course the Colombianas.

Went to Habanos and called over a girl I thought was Cuban, but she was Colombian. My driver there had warned me that the Colombians were not providing the same service they had be famous for in the past, but this one seemed once. Long story short, she came up to my room only to try to further negotiate, and after refusing she got belligerent. I finally threw her, I mean literally, out of my room after two hours of this BS. Never in seven years have I had that happen to me. But I take it for what it is, had a vitamin V in me that was still kicking, so I went downstairs to the Veneto Casino and sat with two hot Ecuadorians; one asked for $150, I said $100, she said lets go. And go she did. And she liked it, smiled the entire time. That's what the Colombians used to do.

So men, beware, go anything but Colombian. Harsh generalization, but mostly true I'm afraid.

Guess everyone knows to go to Ache after 11 PM (Calle Uruguay).

The next night spoke to two Cubans-one so hot but crap, stink mouth so I went for the tall thin negrita instead. Hot body, great service, asked $150 offered $100 plus a $20 propina por buen servicio, and there was no problem. No need to pay more than that. Say it w a smile, with confidence. It's a fuck load of dinero for them.

I heard LE Meridian is chic friendly as well (Veneto looks like it is closing in two months or so).

For a great meal go to Tantolos in Casco Viejo then head up to their rooftop bar, fab views of the city. Day time hit Mercado Mariscos on Via Balboa at the entrance of Casco Viejo for the best (and cheapest) ceviche and whole fried fish you will ever have. For me its more than the chicas, give me ceviche, sancocho, and corvina al ajillo.

Good luck and enjoy all there is to enjoy.

Hobbiest1
04-04-15, 00:33
Hello fellow mongers. The clock is ticking for me as my trip to the PTY is coming in less than 3 weeks. I have mongered in BKK, MAN but mostly Tijuana (Tijuana) as I live within 1 HR. In fact I have gone to Tijuana about 200 times in my adventures. On the other hand I have never been to the PTY. I find it easier to assimilate to a new destination when comparing it to a known destination. BTW. I am happy to share any info with you on Tijuana but I need to know how PTY may be similar to Tijuana. Let me tell you how I see Tijuana.

Tijuana -.

Bars. There are really only 2 major bars. Adelita and HK. Yes there are plenty of other bars but these 2 dominate. Seems like that's how it is in PTY as well with veneto and??

Rates. In Tijuana the going rtate for a bar girl is about $70/ half HR. The way it works there is you take the girl to a room which you pay for (12-17 usd). You could bring them to your room if you stay there thus avoiding the room fee. I am guessing the going rate is $100 but that is for an HR and not a half hour so PTY is a better deal??

Currency. Although they have the MXN peso, the USD is widely accepted. In PTY is the only currency USD? Should I buy local currency (if applicable?) - benefits?

Transport. In Tijuana a cab anywhere is usuall about $5 - PTY?

Policia. In Tijuana. Crooked as fucking hell and will shake you down for $$ - What about PTY. What do I need to watch out for?

Other things. Other than the Canal, what else should I check out? I would love to go to some nice restaurants and my dream is to pick up a hot local lady around 35 for some filler time.

Anything else?

Getting excited!

H1.

Dickhead
04-04-15, 03:16
The official currency in Panamá is the Balboa. However, the "Balboa" is pegged by law at 1 Balboa = 1 USD. Furthermore, Balboas do not actually exist in paper form but only as meaningless coins that are interchangeable with US coins. So, for a US visitor, the only thing you need to be even slightly worried about is not coming back with Balboa coins. They are the same size as US coins. So, if you fuck that up it might cost you a dollar or so depending on whether you are a change hoarder or not.

There are very few similarities between PTY and Tijuana. Panamanian cops are much less corrupt than cops in Tijuana or anywhere in México, but you want to make sure to carry a copy of your Passport, the declaration page and the page with the entry stamp, preferably on the same piece of paper. Take care of that as soon as you hit town. I have posted at length about cab prices and it started a bit of a flame war so you can research that on your own, or not.

The 'going rate' is dependent on your Spanish, your looks, and your negotiating skills. I am fluent in Spanish and a good negotiator but old and ugly. I have yet to pay $100 anywhere in Central America. The minimum wage in Panamá is just a bit over $2 an hour so if you want to give someone a week's pay for an hour fuck I guess you could but it certainly makes no sense to me. I do not think half hour sessions are very common outside of Bocatorena and similar venues. Personally, I never negotiate time. If the chemistry is good, she will stay, and if it's not, why would you want her to stay? Always remember that your hotel is way better than whatever the fuck she has to go home to, and behave accordingly.

Biff Dangler
04-04-15, 07:00
Dude. This info is In-Fucking-Valuable! I am staying at the V from April 23 to when ever but I wanted to thank you! Can I buy you a drink in that corner bar? H1.Thanks, but I will be out of country then.

GauntMan
04-04-15, 22:58
Just came back from the Veneto, been going for seven years.


I heard LE Meridian is chic friendly as well (Veneto looks like it is closing in two months or so).

For a great meal go to Tantolos in Casco Viejo then head up to their rooftop bar, fab views of the city. Day time hit Mercado Mariscos on Via Balboa at the entrance of Casco Viejo for the best (and cheapest) ceviche and whole fried fish you will ever have. For me its more than the chicas, give me ceviche, sancocho, and corvina al ajillo.

Good luck and enjoy all there is to enjoy.Meridien is not girl friendly, they are sphincter tight about guests.

Biff Dangler
04-06-15, 18:32
Went out with a bunch of guys Saturday night. Got to bocatorena around 8:15. Best BocaTorena night ever. Using a very casual survey walking from the front entrance door to the entrance / exit door on the other side I counted 120 women, which would not include those in the bathroom or those inside fucking.

First of all, it was a 4/10 on the smell factor (4 being the baseline for Bocatorena).

2nd, it was the best women I have seen there.

The usual distribution is about 80% less than a five, 15% 6-7, and 5% 8 and above.

Saturday it was:

40% less than a five, 40% 6-7, and 20% 8 and above.

There were a solid 10 women who would have been top flight at Habanos. Why they work at Bocatorena I don't know. All of the top ones said they were willing to leave and go and fuck for a few hours for 40 bucks, which makes sense given the math. They make 10 per fuck at Bocatorena, and probably only do at most 3-4 per night. Why not make 40 bucks with a guy who has at least showered recently and will probably give you free drinks as well?

Anyway, then we want to Mayor, which was a tad disappointing. There were a few good ones, but little dancing going on and when there was dancing it was mostly fat chicks.

We all ended up not doing anything as Columbia's 2nd best export meant we wouldn't be able to do anything about Colombia's best export, but we resolved to maybe get a room in casco on Airbnb some time and pull a couple of girls out of Boca for a gang bang.

On a side note, when we got in the cab near Veneto to go to BocaTorena the cabbie assumed we were all dumb tourists even though we live here and gave us the line that Boca is not secure and we should go to LE Palace instead. That is just a ploy to get you to go to a place where he gets a kickback, don't fall for it.

ClubTed
04-07-15, 19:53
Greetings all!

Clubted from the St. Maarten board travelling over to the Panama City board. Great reports and valuable info to use for a potential upcoming visit to Panama City. Seems like Biff Dangler and Dickhead have great insight into the City. I've gone back and read the past 30 or so pages of reports to try to get as much baseline info as possible. Just a couple of quick questions.

1) From the airport, taxi ($15) or bus / subway into the city center? Not sure where I'm staying yet. Also, is renting a car suggested or just use public transportation?

2) Veneto. Still open? Have read some positive things about Grand International Hotel. I've got tons of Hilton Honors points so may go that route as well. Airbnb for an apartment is also a possibility.

3) I think I get the jest of the Veneto. Habanos on the other hand. Is that a disco / nightclub similiar to Help which used to be on Copacabana Avenue in Rio? In other words, you hook up with the chica at Habanos, and then take her back to your place. Nothing on site at Habanos.

4) Are Veneto, Habanos, and La Bocatorena fairly close to eash other? Within a 10 or 15 minute walk? I have no problem walking. In fact I love walking and taking in the local environment. I'm a seasoned world traveler and on my game with safety, so I'm not concerned about that. Just don't want to deal with the taxi drivers, even though my spanish is pretty decent.

5) La Bocatorena. Can't wait to check this place out. $15 bucks. 10 for the girl and 5 to the house for a quickie? Best deal I've heard about in quite awhile! Also, La Mayor is next door, correct?

6) Trannies. Also read they are on the streets. Any areas to avoid or to be especially on point? Also, they don't filter into the clubs do they? Don't want to have to pull a Crocodile Dundee and do a crotch grab to check a chica out before going with her! LOL!

7) Grute Azul. Is this close to the aforementioned clubs / brothels as well?

Probably going to head down for a week. Guess that should give me enough time to understand the lay of the land and have some fun. Thanks in advance for any replies and I appreciate all the good intel put out on this forum. If I can help anyone out with any questions regarding SXM, feel free to PM me! Going to give SXM a break and try either Panama City, or possibly Campo over in Curacao, but Panama City seems a bit more of an adventure!

Biff Dangler
04-08-15, 01:38
From the airport, taxi ($15) or bus / subway into the city center? Not sure where I'm staying yet. Also, is renting a car suggested or just use public transportation?Taxi is 30 if you take the official taxi. Or, go up to arrivals and negotiate 20-25. You can take the bus but if this is your first trip I don't advise it until you have learned the bus system a bit. There is no need to have a car in Panama City at all. It will just be a pain.


2) Veneto. Still open? Have read some positive things about Grand International Hotel. I've got tons of Hilton Honors points so may go that route as well. Airbnb for an apartment is also a possibility.Yes it's still open. It's closing was my prediction based on observation and what an insider told me, but it is still going strong. If I were you I would stay at Veneto as you can get great prices right now and I have not heard any recent complaints about the AC breaking or anything like that. My only advice earlier was that one shouldn't pre-pay anything in advance. Airbnb is a great choice. That is what I do in various places and it's nice not having to worry about chica fees and such.


3) I think I get the jest of the Veneto. Habanos on the other hand. Is that a disco / nightclub similiar to Help which used to be on Copacabana Avenue in Rio? In other words, you hook up with the chica at Habanos, and then take her back to your place. Nothing on site at Habanos.Habaons is just a large bar with an outdoor deck. Nothing on site at Habanos, but best women in town.


4) Are Veneto, Habanos, and La Bocatorena fairly close to eash other? Within a 10 or 15 minute walk? I have no problem walking. In fact I love walking and taking in the local environment. I'm a seasoned world traveler and on my game with safety, so I'm not concerned about that. Just don't want to deal with the taxi drivers, even though my spanish is pretty decent.Veneto and Habanos are an easy and safe walk. Bocatorena is farther and while as a seasoned traveller you would be fine you will end up there all sweaty. I would take a cab. From there also you can walk into Casco Viejo which is something you should do as a tourist anyway. Perhaps hit Bocatorena / mayor, pound a chick, have dinner in Casco, go back to Boca / Mayor. If you are standing outside Boca if you were to walk to the left you would go left to go into Casco. You do not want to go to the right. It's a pretty seedy street and decent chance you would get robbed.


5) La Bocatorena. Can't wait to check this place out. $15 bucks. 10 for the girl and 5 to the house for a quickie? Best deal I've heard about in quite awhile! Also, La Mayor is next door, correct?Yes mayor is next door. Boca is not for everyone, but I love it.


6) Trannies. Also read they are on the streets. Any areas to avoid or to be especially on point? Also, they don't filter into the clubs do they? Don't want to have to pull a Crocodile Dundee and do a crotch grab to check a chica out before going with her! LOL!No worries at all. You might see some on Calle Uruguay or in the discos there, but you have zero fear of picking up a chick only to find out later it's a tranny. It's not like Thailand.


7) Grute Azul. Is this close to the aforementioned clubs / brothels as well?Not at all. It's a taxi ride. Once there it is fairly near to Capri, which is ok. I have sort of soured on Gruta Azul lately. The chicks are good looking for the money but the beer is expensive and if you hit the wrong night there are like 40 dudes to 6 chicks.


Probably going to head down for a week. Guess that should give me enough time to understand the lay of the land and have some fun. Thanks in advance for any replies and I appreciate all the good intel put out on this forum. If I can help anyone out with any questions regarding SXM, feel free to PM me! Going to give SXM a break and try either Panama City, or possibly Campo over in Curacao, but Panama City seems a bit more of an adventure!Thanks. I'm sorry I won't be here to meet up. I have to go to Europe. But I go to SXM quite frequently and will hit you up next time. I have only been to some of those places near Phillipsburg, and am trying to figure out the game in other parts of the island, if there is any.

AllStar86
04-08-15, 01:57
Greetings all!

Clubted from the St. Maarten board travelling over to the Panama City board. Great reports and valuable info to use for a potential upcoming visit to Panama City. Seems like Biff Dangler and Dickhead have great insight into the City. I've gone back and read the past 30 or so pages of reports to try to get as much baseline info as possible. Just a couple of quick questions.

1) From the airport, taxi ($15) or bus / subway into the city center? Not sure where I'm staying yet. Also, is renting a car suggested or just use public transportation?

2) Veneto. Still open? Have read some positive things about Grand International Hotel. I've got tons of Hilton Honors points so may go that route as well...I was at the Veneto this weekend and the AC was out. $30 cab ride each way.

Dave1027
04-08-15, 02:10
I am going to be traveling to Panama City, Panama and I usually stay at the Veneto. I have read that things are getting bad there. Can you suggest.

Chica friendly hotels.

Thanks,

Dave

Vitrea
04-08-15, 10:30
I am going to be traveling to Panama City, Panama and I usually stay at the Veneto. I have read that things are getting bad there. Can you suggest.

Chica friendly hotels.

Thanks,

DaveEl Principe is a great choice. See friendly, good staff, clean, pool, nice asian restaurant etc. Great Value on booking.com as well. I was there last weekend.

Hobbiest1
04-08-15, 14:33
The official currency in Panam is the Balboa. However, the "Balboa" is pegged by law at 1 Balboa = 1 USD. Furthermore, Balboas do not actually exist in paper form but only as meaningless coins that are interchangeable with US coins. So, for a US visitor, the only thing you need to be even slightly worried about is not coming back with Balboa coins. They are the same size as US coins. So, if you fuck that up it might cost you a dollar or so depending on whether you are a change hoarder or not.

There are very few similarities between PTY and Tijuana. Panamanian cops are much less corrupt than cops in Tijuana or anywhere in Mxico, but you want to make sure to carry a copy of your Passport, the declaration page and the page with the entry stamp, preferably on the same piece of paper. Take care of that as soon as you hit town. I have posted at length about cab prices and it started a bit of a flame war so you can research that on your own, or not.

The 'going rate' is dependent on your Spanish, your looks, and your negotiating skills. I am fluent in Spanish and a good negotiator but old and ugly. I have yet to pay $100 anywhere in Central America. The minimum wage in Panam is just a bit over $2 an hour so if you want to give someone a week's pay for an hour fuck I guess you could but it certainly makes no sense to me. I do not think half hour sessions are very common outside of Bocatorena and similar venues. Personally, I never negotiate time. If the chemistry is good, she will stay, and if it's not, why would you want her to stay? Always remember that your hotel is way better than whatever the fuck she has to go home to, and behave accordingly.DH. What do you mean by the declarations page. Is that the one with my picture and all my info?

Dickhead
04-08-15, 23:01
DH. What do you mean by the declarations page. Is that the one with my picture and all my info?Yes, that is the declaration page.

Dickhead
04-08-15, 23:02
I was at the Veneto this weekend ... $30 cab ride each way.Rolling on the floor laughing my fucking ass off.

Vitrea
04-10-15, 02:18
Quick report:

Yes, Taxi is $25-30 from the airport, each way. The official taxi is $30 but if you are just one person, you can usually negotiate to $25 (without going to arrivals). $5 is not a big deal but the point is that it is not $15 each way like someone else mentioned in an earlier report.

Golden time: There was time when I used to think this place was the bomb. It still has the same consistency and high quality for an MP but I think $120 is way above market fro what we can get elsewhere. I went there for sake of nostalgia and did get a "Massage" from a solid 9. She would be a 10 if she had be cups. Julie from Medellin has a beautiful face, tall and great body but A cups. Sweet smile but I found her a bit mechanical. Will not repeat her or GT. I see no point. $10 cab ride from the center plus $120 compared to $150 for a Veneto girl for one hour in your own room is a no contest.

Veneto: Was seriously happening for a Monday night. 100 girls at least. Found a very light skinned friendly Cuban spinner who was great in bed. She is 24 (I know. Very old. Ha ha) but no kids. Ate, drank, danced, partied a bit with her friends, took a taxi to the hotel, showered, had my own music, no clock watching and a great session. I rolled over, paid her and went to sleep while she closed the door on her way out. Life is good.

Canyon
04-10-15, 03:18
I am looking for a high-end hotel in Panama City that is chica-friendly. I would appreciate any suggestions.

Broski
04-10-15, 07:17
I am looking for a high-end hotel in Panama City that is chica-friendly. I would appreciate any suggestions.Had no problems with the trunp both times I stayed there (most recent stay in March 2015).

Member #4476
04-10-15, 17:40
At the Trump, did you just walk thru lobby with them or go to bar first? No-one ever questioned you at all? Probably staying somewhere different after the last poor experience at Veneto and want it to be somewhere without hassles. Has anyone ever stayed at the Marriott apartments? Any other suggestions?

Wild Thing 69
04-10-15, 20:30
Hi all,

Just came back from a 3 week vacation in Centroamerica (Panama, Nicaragua, El Salvador, Guatemala, Belize, Mexico). First time to those countries.

Though me myself, my strategy and aims might be different from my fellow mongers I decided to contribute a bit as I soaked a lob of info from this board in the past.

Before I start:

I don't live in a sex prison, more in a pussy heaven, Frankfurt / Germany Where girls come in all ages, shapes, colors and prices. In addition to all those available girls I established a personal stock of a handful.

Non-pros who are willing to please and be pleased for small money or even.

Just for fun. And they all provide great sometimes exceptional service.

I love to travel but its obvious that I don't really need to travel for.

Sexual reasons. Its more doing the normal sightseeing stuff with a bit of.

Mongering.

Since I know what poor service putas esp. From Colombia generally offer I.

Decided to do some search on sites like tagged and badoo. I know those are.

Not the best and a high percentage is just fake. But with some experience.

In chatting and contacting a lot of candidates I sampled a remarkable.

Amount of possible dates, as a fall back line in case pros are a mess or not available.

Please forgive me my bad English since its not my mother language. This is.

Also the reason I did not contribute as much as I could regarding my.

Worldwide experiences in mongering.

Last but not least I learn Spanish since two years, am far from perfect but.

Can get along quite well and noticed that nearly everybody, from waiters to.

Taxi drivers, chicas as well, honored my efforts talking in their language.

Part 1 Panama (4 nights).

Day 1.

After a long flight from Frankfurt via Lisboa and Bogota to Panama I.

Checked in at Veneto at 9 pm.

Shortly after midnight I already had my first two sexual encounters, due.

More to curiosity what was going on in this hotel, esp. On the second.

Floor.

One local girl who charged 70 dollars, one Colombian who started with 100.

But went for 70 too. Both were OK if I take my low expectations as a basis.

The Colombian was quite friendly but none offered DFK none BBJ. Which.

I usually regard as a personal insult and an absolute no-go. Up to now I.

Didn't get the idea behind doing sth covered in bed besides from fucking.

Day 2.

Touristic stuff till late afternoon, surprisingly the hop on hop off bus.

Stopped near Bocaterena and La Mayor so I walked in but maybe it was too.

Early, only few chicas available and none that I would rate above 5 or 6.

Anyway I was not in the mood for sex and carried a lot of valuables with me.

So I was a bit over-careful.

Back in my hotel room did some whatsapp chatting, a girl, Carolina, that I.

Didn't focus before was hot in chatting, send me some naked pics and wanted.

To see me. We made a date for tomorrow evening since she works as a nanny.

For a rich Spanish family and needed to plan her free time.

10 minutes later she was online again, said the kids are sleeping the.

Parents are out and she is extremely horny. I offered her the taxi money of.

20 dollar, and 50 bucks for one hour. She was at once happy with that. 30.

Minutes later she showed up, Carolina, 26 y, from Cali / Colombia. Not a model.

Type but with a nice face and body, big boobs and a shaved pussy. What a.

Difference to those Colombian putas downstairs!! She claimed she didn't.

Have real sex since she was in Panama, that is 3 years just masturbating.

Every day and was hot as hell accordingly. She did what I call "Dirty GFE".

Hot passionate kisses, licking nearly every inch of each others body, she.

Did an excellent BBBJ, and I loved sucking her pussy intensely. She was.

Very juicy, moaned loud and came finally. Without a break she did the.

Cowgirl thing and quickly I came too.

During the after-sex-break she was very passionate and emotional and as one.

Hour was nearly over I expected she would dress up and leave but she.

Surprised me with the statement that she was never sucked like that before.

And asked me to repeat. Which I did. She loved it a lot obviously but.

This time she came only after she finally masturbated. That wasn't the end.

Of the action. She asked me to fuck her "perrito" later even wanted to be.

Carefully ass-fucked which I declined as I finally felt too exhausted. She.

Left after 2 hours. Back home she messaged me that all went fine in her.

House.

Couldn't get up to check out the scene downstairs and at Habanos. Anyway.

What could follow to Carolinas exceptional performance that night.

Day 3.

Did the Panama Canal Partial Transit Tour half day. Back at the hotel late.

Afternoon.

10 pm.

Went to Habanos. I preferred the relaxed atmosphere at "Habanos" over Veneto.

Where its as easy talking to the chicas but many of the more attractive.

Ones sit at tables. And it was the time when the air con collapsed on at.

Least two nights and it was as hot as hell there.

Habanos was packed with girls each night I showed up, maybe 80 to 100.

Walking thru the crowd I never heard so many "hola guapo", "que lindo".

"bonito", "corazon", "amor" and "mi vida" before in my life -LOL- and I.

Loved just chit chatting with girls from Colombia, Cuba, Barbados, Brazil.

Ecuador and other countries. I found no one hardcore, everyone was friendly.

And easy-going.

After talking to Sandra, 26, from Cali for a while I decided to take her.

For the usual 100 dollars. Well, see above, friendly but poor service that.

I could get at my hometown for less than half the price.

Back at Habanos at midnight I immediately ran into Daniela,25, Colombian.

From Pereira, a 9,5 in appearance to my taste, a bit reserved in the.

Beginning but gave passionate kisses later, according to my observations as.

Nearly the only one at Habanos.

It was the companionship I love so much when I am out at night, also at.

"Ashe" where we went at 2 am. Daniela never went there before and loved the.

Place even more than me.

Now the downside. She wanted 250 and agreed to 150, no way to get the usual.

100 dollar fare. Probably I talked too early about money just minutes after.

We met.

At the hotel she turned into a different person and offered sex that was.

Worse than the 20-euro-sex I get at home.

Day 4.

No sightseeing today.

10 am.

Princes, 19 why, arrived. Chatted with her on whatsapp before I started my.

Trip. The only reason to date her were her unbelieving huge boobs. Wanted.

To see those in real. I offered her 100 dollar, that is what she gets for.

One week work at a Sheraton restaurant. Of course she agreed to come.

I was somehow relieved when she told me two days before that her period.

Started. So she focused on my mister below all the time. Her BBJ was.

Excellent, slow no teeth only her lips and tongue. CIM on both rounds, in.

Round two including swallowing, her first time she said.

Though I wasn't interested in anything else than her boobs I felt a bit pity.

For her when she left. She was surprisingly friendly, talked English as she.

Was born in New York, and she heavily complained about her big tits. People.

Would be starring at her wherever she goes. Well, no wonder, see the pics.

1 pm.

Lunch at Manolos.

Talked to two girls next to me, they offered a threesome but I declined, I.

Needed some power for the forthcoming dates.

3 pm.

Amy, 21, Panamanian, arrived, another whatsapp girl, face 8,5, body 8.

Performance 8 . DFK, BBBJ, several positions because it took me long to.

Finish what Amy enjoyed, damage 70 dollar, that was a pleasant date.

5 pm.

On my way to Isla Flamenco to meet Mercedes, 21, Dominican, whatsapp girl.

The only girl I wanted to see by all means. I know beauty is in the eye of.

The beholder but her pics sent on whatsapp came near to perfect.

When she told me she came to panama for work and is employed in a "sala de.

Belleza" I thought OK, baby, probably I ll see you at Habanos, Veneto or.

Another place where chicas go to meet men. But I was wrong. She wasn't a pro.

Or freelancer at all.

6 pm.

Senorita Mercedes was already waiting for me. She came from work in town.

And we had a romantic dinner at a restaurant with a great view of panamas.

Skyline at sundown. The 10- girl turns out to be a 9 in real. And a 5 to 6.

In terms of sympathy, still enough to think about inviting her to my Veneto.

Room for the night.

But she needed to go home as she didn't carry anything she needed for.

Tomorrows work, how stupid of her. Anyway it seemed that my budgie at home.

Has a higher IQ than Senorita M.

Nevertheless I did not regret having met my whatsapp dream girl in real.

9 pm.

Back home at Veneto, I stumbled over a 22 year old chica from Medellin. Her.

Smile was overwhelming. After a short discussion she came down from 200 to.

100, still far too much I was sure but, well it was my last night in panama.

City so what. She surprised me with DFK and even a short BBJ before she.

Took a condom. But her fuck job was tremendous, her "que riicooo".

Uncountable. That applies to all girls. Do the chicas only know two words?

11 pm.

Back to my favourite place for the last time, Habanos. Many chicas seemed.

To remember me, came over talked to me, wanted a drink or just a buck for.

Meal, jejeje, nice try, girls.

Finally spotted Daniela again, she spotted me long before. What an.

Appearance. Told her I loved Ashe last night and want to go there again. She.

Could come with me, I pay the entrance fee, her drinks and the taxi home.

But I don't pay her for sex due to her low to non existing performance last.

Night.

She needed time to think it over, checked some minutes if she could squeeze.

Another guy then returned and said: "bueno, vamos".

Again we had a marvelous time at Ashe with lots of dancing drinking.

Cuddling and kissing.

4 am.

Left Ashe and went to Veneto. As all night a lot of police presence. We.

Slept naked arm in arm but no sex.

7 am.

Senorita the. Took taxi home, me taxi to Tocumen airport.

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Canyon
04-11-15, 02:30
I'm considering a trip to Panama City in late July, and I've been reading the forum to get information on which to make a decision. I need some help from some of you veterans, because some of the information was ambiguous.

ACCOMODATIONS.

I was disappointed to learn that most of the high-end hotels were not chica-friendly. This is a big issue with me, since I always use take-out and bring the girl back to my room for a relaxed session. I'm looking for a high-end hotel that is chica-friendly and within reason, I'm not price sensitive. Are the following hotels high-end and chica-friendly?

1, Trump Hotel 2. Saville Suites 3. El Principe Are there any others?

I have heard that the Marriott is nice and right by Habanos. I know it's not chica-friendly, but I heard you can bring in a guest through the casino, then to the room. Is.

This true? Is the Marriott the same as the Marriott Courtyard?

If I can't find a good, chica-friendly hotel, where can I find a high-end apartment near the action that is chica-friendly?

MEETING PLACES.

I couldn't tell by some of the descriptions whether an establishment was for take-out or you had to do it on-site. For example, it was clear that Habanos is a take-out place and they have no facilities for doing it on-site. On the other hand, it seems like Bocatoreno and Veneto have on-site facilities, but I couldn't tell if take-out was allowed. I would appreciate clarification on the following places as to whether they are take-out, on-site or both. I would also appreciate knowing if there is a take-out fee or what the on-site charge is in addition to paying the girl.

1. Veneto 2. Bocatoreno 3. Greta Azul 4. River Club 5. La Mayor 6. Relax Oriental.

I know that LE Palace and Elite are high-end strip clubs, where you can take out the girl and the cost would be about $400 for both the girl and the take-out fee. Are there any other places I should know about?

I would appreciate any other advice you can give me. When I'm in Bangkok, I stay at a nice hotel, go out and find a beauty, then bring her back to my hotel room for a nice two-hour session. I would like to do the same thing in Panama City, but I don't know if that is possible. I have another question on cost. I'm not interested in the 15-minutes special for $15 or $20. I want a nice, relaxed two-hour session. I have read that girls ask $200 for one hour, but you can get them down to $150 or $100 for an hour. What would be a reasonable price to pay for a two-hour session with a high-end girl. In Bangkok, I sometimes offer $100 for a two-hour session, but I make it clear that I will add a $50 tip if the service is really good and I like it.

I would appreciate any other advice on whether I should include Panama City in my plans or skip it. Also, if I don't go to Panama City, where are the best places in Latin America? (I've been to Buenos Aires and Rio di Janeiro and I liked both of them. I did not like San Jose in Costa Rica.).

Thank you,

Canyon.

Broski
04-11-15, 04:54
At the Trump, did you just walk thru lobby with them or go to bar first? No-one ever questioned you at all? Probably staying somewhere different after the last poor experience at Veneto and want it to be somewhere without hassles. Has anyone ever stayed at the Marriott apartments? Any other suggestions?Most of the time I'd get back to the trump around midnight to 2 am. The guys at the cab stand guys usually say Hello. Go up the first elevators and then you pass the check in area towards the elevators to the room and not once did anyone say anything to me.

I would book 1-2 nights at a hotel that you decide on. If you like it and have no issues with chicas just go to front desk later and extend your room for x days at the same rate (there is usually lots of availability barring any big conference). Locking in for many days would Def suck if it turns out that the hotel isn't Chica friendly as I learned at the Hilton.

Wild thing 69 - very nice report thanks man. I didn't think about going on badoo or any of the dating sites / apps but that's a very good idea for my next trip.

Hobbiest1
04-11-15, 13:24
I was doing some research and Panama has a metro that seems to go from Tocumen airport to city center. From what I can tell its a GREAT deal as the fare is. 35. I am staying at Veneto so I am guessing from Tocumen take the green line and get off at Iglesia del Carmen. Does this make sense. What do I need to know? Is it safe? Whay hasnt this subject been brought up before?? Any insight is appreciated. H1.

Agee19
04-11-15, 15:07
Any info on Uraquay Street and the Waldorf?

Dickhead
04-11-15, 16:45
I was doing some research and Panama has a metro that seems to go from Tocumen airport to city center. From what I can tell its a GREAT deal as the fare is. 35. I am staying at Veneto so I am guessing from Tocumen take the green line and get off at Iglesia del Carmen. Does this make sense. What do I need to know? Is it safe? Whay hasnt this subject been brought up before?? Any insight is appreciated. H1.No, the metro does not go to Tocumen (PTY). It goes to Albrook airport (PAC or 'Marcus Gelabert. ') All I can do about that is apologize. BTW you can fly into PAC from San José, Costa Rica.

TheTransporter
04-13-15, 00:41
Hey guys,

I see that some of you wish to explore beyond the Veneto area, if you are looking for a private driver that speaks English and Spanish, feel free to contact me on I message or whatsapp at [Telephone Number deleted by Admin]

I speak fluent English and Spanish and know the places where the chicas are at!

By being a local, at the clubs I can get you the girls at local rates and not the tourist rates, which is about 25-50% less, varies at each establishment.

The biggest difference between me and other drivers / taxis is that I do not get kickbacks or commissions from the clubs, I only work for you.

I also do driving to other tourist destinations of interest (Old Quarters, Shopping Malls, etc).

Rate is $20 per hour, I drive a mid sized SUV, tinted windows, leather seats, AC.

The Transporter.

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RichardScott
04-13-15, 12:23
I already made my trip report a couple of weeks ago, just wanted to agree with what other users have also said, I was also surprised by the amount of Cuban and Venezuelan girls that are taking over the scene from Colombianas, before it used to be 80% Colombianas, 15% Panamanians, the remaining 5% Dominican and other countries.

Percentages are now probably 50% Colombianas, 25% Venezuelans, 10% Cuban, 10% Panamanians, 5% Dominican and other countries.

I was actually with a Venezuelan girl that was the highlight of my trip, she had just arrived from Mexico where she told me she had also been working for a couple of months, her name is Belinda, blonde, petite perfect body, fake tits (great job), about 5'4', she was sharing her apartment with other girls, but each had her own room, one of them was actually her cousin, they are a group of Venezuelan working girls touring various countries, which is probably way safer for them, she told me that it was their first time in Panama and that business had been a bit slow compared to Mexico where their phones didn't stop ringing.

I asked for regular vaginal sex with her only, $120 one hour, a bit pricey for an incall in Panama, but she was definitely worth it, I didn't even try to negotiate or anything, cause I have noticed that when you do that shit the girl sometimes becomes too mechanical and just wants to get it over with.

All girls at the apartment really looked like supermodels, wish I had found them sooner or I could have extended my trip.

Anyways I don't know what else to say, she opened the door wearing lingerie and high heels, performed BBBJ without me even asking for it which was a nice surprise, this was near the San Francisco area, when I went up the elevator to her apartment, I actually knocked on the wrong door and a couple of little kids answered the door, I thought it was a fake ad for a second, but I called her cell again and she immediately opened the door of her apartment.

I also contacted a Cuban girl named Rubi, only saw the pictures from her ad and gave her a call regarding the service, but didn't book an appointment, maybe next time! Venezuelan and Cuban girls are taking over!

Member #4476
04-13-15, 14:41
Thanks Broski for info on Trump. Someone asked a few posts down about Waldorf. Have found a good rate there as well as Marriott Apartments. Anyone ever stayed at either of these. So bummed Veneto is having so many issues as that was perfect for us.

GauntMan
04-14-15, 04:41
Any info on Uraquay Street and the Waldorf?Rule of thumb, any high class hotel (hard rock, waldorf, etc) is not girlfriendly. You will get charge for bringing a person to your room, if, they actually allow guests. Best bet is to make your book for 2 people or send and email before booking about their guest policy.

Member #4476
04-14-15, 13:58
Just got this back from The Waldorf:

You have to register the person at the front desk and have an extra charge of US $100.00 +10% tax.

They just lost several thousand in business.

Vitrea
04-14-15, 19:10
Rule of thumb, any high class hotel (hard rock, waldorf, etc) is not girlfriendly. You will get charge for bringing a person to your room, if, they actually allow guests. Best bet is to make your book for 2 people or send and email before booking about their guest policy.Agree as a general principle but there is a way to get into HR hotel, 100% of the time without paying fees. Regular contributors can PM me if interested.

Vitrea
04-14-15, 19:16
I'm considering a trip to Panama City in late July, and I've been reading the forum to get information on which to make a decision. I need some help from some of you veterans, because some of the information was ambiguous.

ACCOMODATIONS.

I was disappointed to learn that most of the high-end hotels were not chica-friendly. This is a big issue with me, since I always use take-out and bring the girl back to my room for a relaxed session. I'm looking for a high-end hotel that is chica-friendly and within reason, I'm not price sensitive. Are the following hotels high-end and chica-friendly?

1, Trump Hotel 2. Saville Suites 3. El Principe Are there any others?

Canyon.Trump is high end. Hit or miss. Depends on the security guy and front desk person.

El Principe is very much girl friendly. It is not "high end" though. 3 star.

David6934
04-14-15, 22:30
Thanks much to all. I read the fucking forum, and I went armed with lots of information. I'll give my run down day by day. Activities mongering and non-mongering. My style is to note to my mistakes as well. As there's always something a newbie can learn from. Where I'm relative newbie myself.

Wednesday, 4/8/15 - my friend and I arrived at the airport and I went up to arrivals and got a cab for $20 from the airport to the Veneto. Negotiation for the cab started at $30 I believe. I got in at about 9:30 pm, and there were some gorgeous girls there, but I had to check-in. As others had discussed, the Veneto is going downhill. Their air conditioning was only partly working. The room was well above what it should have been at 9:30, so I couldn't imagine what it would have been like at 2 pm or when it was actually hot outside. It took a while, but my friend I and found a decent option in the Grand International Hotel on Via Argentina. My friend doesn't monger, so he didn't care if the hotel was chica friendly, but it also meant I wasn't bringing girls back, so girl friendliness didn't matter. Veneto gave me a full refund for the amount I had spent via booking.com. It was a long day with the flights and hotel disaster (which took several hours to resolve) so we went to bed. Of note, we took a cab from the Veneto to the Grand International and the guy started at $7 and I talked him down to $5. I walked this route several times, and it's about 6 blocks. Somehow he managed to make the drive take 10 minutes. Perhaps to justify his price. Foreshadowing. Taxistas in Panama City are awful people.

Thursday, 4/9/15 - Went to Veneto to check out the scene at about 10:30 pm. First, the Veneto is the smallest casino I have ever seen. I'd say 25 girls and 8 to 10 guys. I wasn't too impressed by the selection, so I went to Habanos where all these supposed 10's exists. There were no 10's there, perhaps a mix of 5's to 8's. I found myself attracted to a Colombiana named Laura who was 37. She was sweet and spoke some English. We agreed to $150 for 2 hours at LOS Arcos. I always (or at least I'm supposed to) get the girl to agree to four stipulations before we go anywhere:

1) Pay at the end.

2) blow my load as much as I want in the allotted time frame.

3) the amount of time.

4) kissing (if it interests me in that case).

Overall, the session was fine. Laura had an 8. 5 body and a 7 face. LOS Arcos was $20 for 2 hours (condoms may be extra. Laura had some). When we got to the hotel, I handed the taxi driver $2, and he told Laura the fee was $5. I said no. Laura said yes, this is normal. The driver said he's collect from Laura later as they know each other. We talked and had a good time. It took me a while for me to blow my load, and I went to the bathroom, and I came back out and she was on the phone saying we were done. I should have said something, but I knew I wasn't going to go again, so I let it go. Of note. For those who think girls work only once per night, that is insane. Laura started putting on makeup before we left, and I asked if she was going back to Habanos, and she said yes. This isn't a vacation for them, they are there to make money.

My friend and I did some sightseeing during the next couple of days and did non mongering things at night. Overall, my taxi SOP was to hand them $2 without a work and walk away. This was generally fine. Once when going from the Grand International to the Hard Rock Hotel, the taxista said it was $3. 50. I said I didn't have $1. 50 and did he have change. He said no and I needed to make change. I went in the hotel and never came back out. Fuck that guy. I could have argued with him before I went inside, but I'm generally nonconfrontational. I paid $10 to the Panama Canal. On my way back from the Panama Canal, one taxista refused to take us back from $8, but one took us back for $8, so perhaps that price is about right. I went back and forth to Casco Viejo for $5, but in retrospect, that was probably too much. I really do hate the taxistas in Panama City. They are awful.

On Sunday, 4/12/15, I tried to go to Oasis around noon, but as noted by others. It seems to be closed permanently. Oh well. I checked out the Veneto around 1 pm. There was a chubby Cubana there who wanted $100 and was sitting at the downstairs bar. I decided against it. I went back Sunday night to Veneto at about 10 pm. There were about 30 girls ranging from 4 to 7. 5. I had it in my mind that I wanted a threesome to make up for lack of activity despite the fact that threesomes with hookers generally aren't even that great. I talked with two Cubanas. I like one but not the other. Overall, I didn't like the options so based on all the advice, I went to Habanos.

At Habanos, there were several options. The upstairs was closed. Presumably due to less traffic because it was a Sunday. I almost settled on one Cubana, but she wouldn't take the money at the end, so I said no deal. I saw Laura again, and I went to talk to her. Of course she wanted to get down, but I said I need some new blood, so she went out and found a Colombiana named Juliana who had an 8 face and an 8. 5 body. We agreed to $150 each for 2 hours ($300 total). I had heard that LOS Arcos doesn't do threesomes (not just from them but from someone else at Veneto), so we walked to a place that was a block from Habanos. This place was $35 for an hour. I stupidly didn't ask if this was for one hour or two. When we get to the room, Juliana asks for money up front. Without going into all the details, I gave in. Laura said she'd take money at the end. I broke the most important rule and of course. It fucked me. The first 45 minutes went well. I finish in Juliana and then we get a call that says we have 10 minutes left. Juliana starts putting her clothes on. Laura says Juliana isn't into it, and I say I don't care. Laura says she'll stay the whole 2 hours, but I need to pay another $35. Annoyed, I say fuck it and terminate everything. I do pay Laura the full $150. You guys will probably give me shit for full payment and perhaps rightfully so, but here are my three biggest errors:

1) paying up front, never do it.

2) not being conscious of the fact I was probably being played. Once out of the moment, I presume this was their plan all along. For Juliana to leave all along when they originally spoke at Habanos without me.

3) I didn't confirm and / or haggle the pricing at the love hotel. That is fucking expensive.

On Monday, 4/13/15, I took a cab back to the airport. I started at $15, the cabbie said $30. I said $20. He said $25. I said $20. He said OK. I fucking hate these taxistas.

I'd like to also note that someone had mentioned using Tinder to find working girls. Tinder was a complete waste of time. I also checked Badoo, also a complete waste of time.

RacShack
04-14-15, 23:26
Trump is high end. Hit or miss. Depends on the security guy and front desk person.

El Principe is very much girl friendly. It is not "high end" though. 3 star.Staying at trump, my friend owns in building he says zero chance of anybody stopping me from bring as many girls as I want in, don't know if you rent hotel it's different? Any body know how much from airport taxi will be to the trump? Haven't been in 3 yrs but used to stay in Veneto area, any info on new area I'm staying in?

Thanks guys!

JamesPearle
04-15-15, 03:20
$335 for a 45 minute threesome with a 37 year-old with a 7 face and her friend? I have done several threesomes with 10's (outside of Panama) and never paid close to that. Each time was with very hot girls in their 20's, BBBJTC, BLS, and FS with multiple positions. I hope it was a damn good 45 minutes.

Sounds like Panamanian chicas know they can rip horny Americans without allot of effort.


Thanks much to all. I read the fucking forum, and I went armed with lots of information. I'll give my run down day by day. Activities mongering and non-mongering. My style is to note to my mistakes as well. As there's always something a newbie can learn from. Where I'm relative newbie myself.

Wednesday, 4/8/15 - my friend and I arrived at the airport and I went up to arrivals and got a cab for $20 from the airport to the Veneto. Negotiation for the cab started at $30 I believe. I got in at about 9:30 pm, and there were some gorgeous girls there, but I had to check-in. As others had discussed, the Veneto is going downhill. Their air conditioning was only partly working. The room was well above what it should have been at 9:30, so I couldn't imagine what it would have been like at 2 pm or when it was actually hot outside. It took a while, but my friend I and found a decent option in the Grand International Hotel on Via Argentina. My friend doesn't monger, so he didn't care if the hotel was chica friendly, but it also meant I wasn't bringing girls back, so girl friendliness didn't matter. Veneto gave me a full refund for the amount I had spent via booking.com. It was a long day with the flights and hotel disaster (which took several hours to resolve) so we went to bed. Of note, we took a cab from the Veneto to the Grand International and the guy started at $7 and I talked him down to $5. I walked this route several times, and it's about 6 blocks. Somehow he managed to make the drive take 10 minutes. Perhaps to justify his price. Foreshadowing. Taxistas in Panama City are awful people.

Thursday, 4/9/15 - Went to Veneto to check out the scene at about 10:30 pm. First, the Veneto is the smallest casino I have ever seen. I'd say 25 girls and 8 to 10 guys. I wasn't too impressed by the selection, so I went to Habanos where all these supposed 10's exists...

GauntMan
04-15-15, 20:33
Staying at trump, my friend owns in building he says zero chance of anybody stopping me from bring as many girls as I want in, don't know if you rent hotel it's different? Any body know how much from airport taxi will be to the trump? Haven't been in 3 yrs but used to stay in Veneto area, any info on new area I'm staying in?

Thanks guys!Taxi ride shouldn't cost you more than $15, don't let the driver rip you!

GauntMan
04-15-15, 22:19
Hey people, just did a small recon mission on several hotels near the Venetto area, Ill post the website link and my findings about their guest policy. For directions / maps, check with your friend Google.

Royal sonesta - http://www.sonesta.com/panama - Apparently girl friendly - $25 if your guest stays the night.

Saba hotel - http://www.thesabahotel.com/default-en.html - Not girl friendly. Will charge if you bring a guest.

Principe hotel suites - http://principehotelandsuites.com - Not girlfriendly. If stay of guest is more than 1 hour, $15 extra.

Tryp centro - http://www.tryphotels.com/en/tryp-panama-centro.html - Not girlfriendly. Will charge $150.

Las vegas suites - http://www.lasvegaspanama.com - $25 extra regardless of time, but the girl can stay all night.

Las huacas hotel - http://www.lashuacashotel.com - $22 extra regardless of time, but the girl can stay all night.

Hotel milan - http://www.hotelmilan.com.pa/en - Not girlfriendly.

Toscana inn - http://www.toscanainnhotel.com/home - $25 extra regardless of time, but the girl can stay all night.

Coral Suites - www.coralsuitespanama.com - $22 per guest for the night.

Metro hotel panama. No website, check booking sites - $27 per guest for the night.

Clarion victoria - http://www.clarionvictoria.com - Not girlfriendly. Youll need to register and they will charge 82.50.

Parador Panama - http://www.hotelparadorpanama.com - apparently girlfriendly.

TellAll
04-15-15, 22:33
Hey people, just did a small recon mission on several hotels near the Venetto area, Ill post the website link and my findings about their guest policy. For directions / maps, check with your friend Google.

Royal sonesta - http://www.sonesta.com/panama - Apparently girl friendly - $25 if your guest stays the night.

Saba hotel - http://www.thesabahotel.com/default-en.html - Not girl friendly. Will charge if you bring a guest.

Principe hotel suites - http://principehotelandsuites.com - Not girlfriendly. If stay of guest is more than 1 hour, $15 extra.

Tryp centro - http://www.tryphotels.com/en/tryp-panama-centro.html - Not girlfriendly. Will charge $150.

Las vegas suites - http://www.lasvegaspanama.com - $25 extra regardless of time, but the girl can stay all night.

Las huacas hotel - http://www.lashuacashotel.com - $22 extra regardless of time, but the girl can stay all night.

Hotel milan - http://www.hotelmilan.com.pa/en - Not girlfriendly.

Toscana inn - http://www.toscanainnhotel.com/home - $25 extra regardless of time, but the girl can stay all night.

Coral Suites - www.coralsuitespanama.com - $22 per guest for the night.

Metro hotel panama. No website, check booking sites - $27 per guest for the night.

Clarion victoria - http://www.clarionvictoria.com - Not girlfriendly. Youll need to register and they will charge 82.50.

Parador Panama - http://www.hotelparadorpanama.com - apparently girlfriendly.Finally some pertinent info. Will be in Panama Sunday for a week. Staying at Veneto but this list could be useful in the fall when I return.

Anybody up for a drink pm me.

Vitrea
04-16-15, 05:22
Hey people, just did a small recon mission on several hotels near the Venetto area, Ill post the website link and my findings about their guest policy. For directions / maps, check with your friend Google.



Principe hotel suites - http://principehotelandsuites.com - Not girlfriendly. If stay of guest is more than 1 hour, $15 extra.

Very good work and thanks for the effort.

Correction: Principe was most definitley girl friendly as of 10 days ago. I paraded a couple of them in front of reception and not a word.

Vitrea
04-16-15, 05:26
Staying at trump, my friend owns in building he says zero chance of anybody stopping me from bring as many girls as I want in, don't know if you rent hotel it's different? Any body know how much from airport taxi will be to the trump? Haven't been in 3 yrs but used to stay in Veneto area, any info on new area I'm staying in?

Thanks guys!Taxi ride is $25 to $30 one way from the airport.

RacShack
04-16-15, 05:51
Taxi ride is $25 to $30 one way from the airport.Thanks for the true and accurate info!

Hobbiest1
04-16-15, 13:36
Taxi ride is $25 to $30 one way from the airport.What about Uber? I only use Uber in the US as its usually half the price of a taxi.

Spisol
04-16-15, 16:52
What about Uber? I only use Uber in the US as its usually half the price of a taxi.I used UBER last year in PTY and it was a little difficult as to the wait time. They charge 35 to and from the airport. It is a $4 minimum in city and they have a $3 cancellation fee. When I used it last year it was about half the price. Here is a list of their flat fees:

Panama Pacifico why Cocoli.

Panama City minus the airport and Panama Pacifico.

$20.

Tocumen International Airport.

Panama City, Panama.

$35.

Panama City, Panama.

Parque Summit, Radisson Summit, Gamboa Hotel why Pueblo.

$40.

Panama City minus the airport and Panama Pacifico.

Panama Este. Después del aeropuerto (incluyendo Cerro Azul).

$40.

Panama City, Panama.

Colon Ciudad, Zona Libre, MIT, Gatun, Aeropuerto, Colon200.

$80.

Panama City, Panama.

Punta Chame, Gorgona, Coronado, San Carlos, El Palmar, Rio Mar, Bijao, Santa Clara, Decameron, Playa Blanca, Farallon, Buenaventura why poblados aledaños.

US $ 100.

Punta Chame, Gorgona, Coronado, San Carlos, El Palmar, Rio Mar, Bijao, Santa Clara, Decameron, Playa Blanca, Farallon, Buenaventura why poblados aledaños.

Panama City minus the airport and Panama Pacifico.

US $ 100.

Hobbiest1
04-17-15, 00:19
I used UBER last year in PTY and it was a little difficult as to the wait time. They charge 35 to and from the airport. It is a $4 minimum in city and they have a $3 cancellation fee. When I used it last year it was about half the price. Here is a list of their flat fees:

Panama Pacifico why Cocoli.

Panama City minus the airport and Panama Pacifico.

$20.

Tocumen International Airport.

Panama City, Panama.

$35.

Panama City, Panama.

Parque Summit, Radisson Summit, Gamboa Hotel why Pueblo.

$40.

Panama City minus the airport and Panama Pacifico.

Panama Este. Despus del aeropuerto (incluyendo Cerro Azul).

$40.

Panama City, Panama.

Colon Ciudad, Zona Libre, MIT, Gatun, Aeropuerto, Colon200.

$80.

Panama City, Panama.

Punta Chame, Gorgona, Coronado, San Carlos, El Palmar, Rio Mar, Bijao, Santa Clara, Decameron, Playa Blanca, Farallon, Buenaventura why poblados aledaos.

US $ 100.

Punta Chame, Gorgona, Coronado, San Carlos, El Palmar, Rio Mar, Bijao, Santa Clara, Decameron, Playa Blanca, Farallon, Buenaventura why poblados aledaos.

Panama City minus the airport and Panama Pacifico.

US $ 100.GEEEESH! Such a fuc# pain in the ass. I will just use the rip off taxistas. Thanks for the input. Gauntman - 1st drink on me next Thursday!

GauntMan
04-17-15, 02:38
GEEEESH! Such a fuc# pain in the ass. I will just use the rip off taxistas. Thanks for the input. Gauntman - 1st drink on me next Thursday!You can also try easy taxi, I've used it in Bogota and here in Panama with no problems at all, arrival times are under 5 min once a cab picks the app call.

GauntMan
04-17-15, 02:40
Very good work and thanks for the effort.

Correction: Principe was most definitley girl friendly as of 10 days ago. I paraded a couple of them in front of reception and not a word.I think its most a hit or miss once you are in the premises, I did all my info gathering thru the telephone.

Dickhead
04-17-15, 02:51
I don't know why you meatheads won't listen to me. Go upstairs to arrivals and you can get a cab into town for $15. If the first one won't take $15 the next one will, or the next one. Fuck Uber. I have done this at least five times now.

Or, fuck around making cell phone calls and pay $35 and have to give your credit card information, and face 'cancellation fees. ' Whatever floats your boat.

RacShack
04-17-15, 08:45
I don't know why you meatheads won't listen to me. Go upstairs to arrivals and you can get a cab into town for $15. If the first one won't take $15 the next one will, or the next one. Fuck Uber. I have done this at least five times now.

Or, fuck around making cell phone calls and pay $35 and have to give your credit card information, and face 'cancellation fees. ' Whatever floats your boat.Thanks again I remember you saying this, do you think it will work like 2-3 am? My flight from Fll lands I think at 2 am!

RacShack
04-17-15, 16:43
I don't know why you meatheads won't listen to me. Go upstairs to arrivals and you can get a cab into town for $15. If the first one won't take $15 the next one will, or the next one. Fuck Uber. I have done this at least five times now.

Or, fuck around making cell phone calls and pay $35 and have to give your credit card information, and face 'cancellation fees. ' Whatever floats your boat.I know it's on here somewhere, is there a list of short term hotels on here? Love motels?

Thanks

Dickhead
04-17-15, 17:21
Thanks again I remember you saying this, do you think it will work like 2-3 am? My flight from Fll lands I think at 2 am!That, I don't know. Never gotten in to PTY at night. It probably depends on if any flights are departing at say 4 am.

Vitrea
04-17-15, 18:43
I think its most a hit or miss once you are in the premises, I did all my info gathering thru the telephone.Hats off to your diligence (truly good work). However, when you call and specifically ask on the phone, they are obligated to give you the official line.

I am telling you practical info. Hope that is somewhat useful as well. I spent a lot of time in the business area which is out in the open in the lobby and over two nights I saw handful of working girls brought in by mongers with no problem.

JamesPearle
04-17-15, 23:23
Unless the hotel bill is a problem for you, I would not think about staying anywhere except the Trump. Best hotel in the city and they don't nickel and dime you on anything. Much less these stupid chica charges.


I'm considering a trip to Panama City in late July, and I've been reading the forum to get information on which to make a decision. I need some help from some of you veterans, because some of the information was ambiguous.

ACCOMODATIONS.

I was disappointed to learn that most of the high-end hotels were not chica-friendly. This is a big issue with me, since I always use take-out and bring the girl back to my room for a relaxed session. I'm looking for a high-end hotel that is chica-friendly and within reason, I'm not price sensitive. Are the following hotels high-end and chica-friendly?

1, Trump Hotel 2. Saville Suites 3. El Principe Are there any others?

GauntMan
04-19-15, 02:18
Hats off to your diligence (truly good work). However, when you call and specifically ask on the phone, they are obligated to give you the official line.

I am telling you practical info. Hope that is somewhat useful as well. I spent a lot of time in the business area which is out in the open in the lobby and over two nights I saw handful of working girls brought in by mongers with no problem.Thing is, some of them actually told me if the guests would be "chicas de compania" and some of those were hotels where they don't give you too much trouble for girls.

GauntMan
04-19-15, 02:26
I don't know why you meatheads won't listen to me. Go upstairs to arrivals and you can get a cab into town for $15. If the first one won't take $15 the next one will, or the next one. Fuck Uber. I have done this at least five times now.

Or, fuck around making cell phone calls and pay $35 and have to give your credit card information, and face 'cancellation fees. ' Whatever floats your boat.This is true, you can walk upstairs to the departure area and catch a cab for as low as $12, which is the fee for regular yellow cabs from anywhere in the city towards the airport and viceversa.

Dickhead
04-19-15, 03:15
Right, I meant go upstairs to departures, not arrivals which obviously you just arrived. My bad. Anyway, you schmucks are paying WAY too much for cabs and you need to stop doing that. The cab fares are regulated and if you are too chickenshit to call these cab drivers on how they constantly rip you off, I just don't understand it. Again, let's look at what gas prices have done recently Ummmm, they have gone down. That means cab drivers are doing well compared to the last few years. So get your shit together.

Hobbiest1
04-19-15, 03:16
This is true, you can walk upstairs to the departure area and catch a cab for as low as $12, which is the fee for regular yellow cabs from anywhere in the city towards the airport and viceversa.So just a point of clarification as I have not been thru Tocumen before. Upstairs is DEPARTURES and not arrivals. That makes more sense to me but please confirm or assist.

Thanks!!

See you all on Thursday!

H1.

Hobbiest1
04-19-15, 03:21
I have played around the world and I am a high Roller in Vegas at the Hard Rock. I am not looking to make the big kill here but I am staying at Veneto and the things I need to know:

1. Table Limits. I do NOT want to stand out in the crowd. Is $25 a safe table minimum or is it $5?

2. Continuous shuffle or hand shuffle. I want hand shuffle. Where and how do I find it?

3. I have studied the odds for PTY and expect to win big but that's all relative so I want to stay under the radar but bring home about 10 k in 1 week. Thoughts?

4. Additional. You tell me.

I have been around the tables for a long time and understand the game. Any insights are appreciated!

H1.

GauntMan
04-19-15, 22:34
So just a point of clarification as I have not been thru Tocumen before. Upstairs is DEPARTURES and not arrivals. That makes more sense to me but please confirm or assist.

Thanks!!

See you all on Thursday!

H1.Yep! Upstairs is departures o viajeros de salida, when you get out of panama, youll be in departures and when arriving to panama, downstairs in arrivals.

RacShack
04-19-15, 23:11
Right, I meant go upstairs to departures, not arrivals which obviously you just arrived. My bad. Anyway, you schmucks are paying WAY too much for cabs and you need to stop doing that. The cab fares are regulated and if you are too chickenshit to call these cab drivers on how they constantly rip you off, I just don't understand it. Again, let's look at what gas prices have done recently Ummmm, they have gone down. That means cab drivers are doing well compared to the last few years. So get your shit together.Landed last night, worked like a dream, first guy said 30 ,I laughed, cab right behind him said 25 ,I said 15 he said ok off to the trump! I got in late at 2 am spirit flight, got one right in front of trump, she wanted 200 , worked her down to 100 right up to the apt, Cuban girl 19 hot, excellent service BBBJ, awesome fuck, called it the night, funny shit I'm staying on 36th floor, get up early to go by pool, open door hot hot girl from Cali walking out apt one door down from mine (super hot) said Hi on her way by, started talking she wanted 200, offered 100 bam nailed it, though her in hot shower together, another awesome BBBJ, even better fuck several dif positions 'stayed like 2 hrs, hit it off well going to pool with her tomorrow! Haven't been here in almost 3 years didn't think I was got to be crazy about, but must say so far a awesome start to a trip!

TellAll
04-20-15, 01:37
I am in Panama city now if anyone wants to get together for a few, give me a shout. Definately not Asia.

MarianoRiv
04-21-15, 17:59
I have played around the world and I am a high Roller in Vegas at the Hard Rock. I am not looking to make the big kill here but I am staying at Veneto and the things I need to know:

1. Table Limits. I do NOT want to stand out in the crowd. Is $25 a safe table minimum or is it $5?

2. Continuous shuffle or hand shuffle. I want hand shuffle. Where and how do I find it?

3. I have studied the odds for PTY and expect to win big but that's all relative so I want to stay under the radar but bring home about 10 k in 1 week. Thoughts?

4. Additional. You tell me.

I have been around the tables for a long time and understand the game. Any insights are appreciated!

H1.Hey Hobbiest1,

It is not completely clear to me if you are a skilled player or not? Are you? Can you provide some information about your background? I will assume you are a skilled player and say a few related things.

First, be aware that CSMs are the norm. Not many hand-shuffled games, but there are some around. When I was at the Veneto, the pit that is closest to the bar used hand-shuffled games, but the other pits did not -- those had machine shufflers only. And that one pit closest to the bar was only open a few days out of the week. Their main pit was the one that was further away from the bar.

Green chip action will make you stand out. You WILL be noticed, and will receive attention, not only from the pit personnel, but from chip-hustlers, too. Do not be surprised if you are approached by women who might sit next to you and try to get some of your chips, one way or the other. Even if you are spreading from $5-200 you will get attention. The heat would be about the same as playing $25 min. The definitive write-up on Veneto chip hustling in on the Wizard of Odds website. (Google it to read the article.).

I was there last year, and there were good games around, but not much. But definitely do as much scouting as you can. Things might have changed since then. Check the casino at the Continental hotel, and those casinos around there, but try to check out some others, too, like the one in the mall, on the 4th floor, next to the Hard Rock hotel. Keep your eyes open for promotions.

I did not see any beatable games in terms of shuffle-tracking or hole-carding, but did see a few games with regard to counting.

Can I ask how you arrived at your 10 k win in a week? What did you determine your E. V. Was? If it's $100/ HR, then you will have to get in 100 hours to have an E. V. Of 10 k, and you won't be able to get in 100 hours of playing time in a week.

If you can elaborate more on your game and your background, I can break it down more.

RacShack
04-22-15, 11:26
Wow, I remember back in the day (5 years ago) I used to call the escalator going up to casino (Venito) "stair way to heaven", can't believe now it's like going up to hell, this place has 0 customer service,(not that it was ever that good) but now seems like staff goes out of their way to make sure you leave their not happy! I don't get it it could be such a gold mine, tonight no AC in casino, big water leak in men's restroom from ceiling, floors and walls disgusting, can't get a drink at table period, Pitt boss was a rude -that's being nice ' fucking girls ask for a drink before even asking your name, what a shame, can't make this shit up, really almost not a good place at all, you will see a couple of chumps that never been their and even them have fake smiles on, boy if anybody know how it used to be to now, Mon night pulled a girl out of their with a good smile all around nice 22 yr old Cuban ,100, get her back to apt half ass massage, tried to put condom on for BJ after making it clear before leaving, she kept trying to get out of going into shower, bingo finally I see why. A scar from hip to hip not just a reg scar, but huge, from bad lipo suction from Cuba, I think her name was Nancy, stay clear! So far all my girls have been pulled from trump casino and parking lot, it's very discreet but their around!

Hobbiest1
04-22-15, 12:49
I guess I would rather just play reds and not get undue attention and just have fun. As you know not every single hand will be reds so I could probably get away with some $50/$100 bets and doubles on those. FYI am a hole carder / counter so I tend to do pretty good for myself. I will def. Check out the Continental hotel area. Thanks Mariano!


Hey Hobbiest1,

It is not completely clear to me if you are a skilled player or not? Are you? Can you provide some information about your background? I will assume you are a skilled player and say a few related things.

First, be aware that CSMs are the norm. Not many hand-shuffled games, but there are some around. When I was at the Veneto, the pit that is closest to the bar used hand-shuffled games, but the other pits did not -- those had machine shufflers only. And that one pit closest to the bar was only open a few days out of the week. Their main pit was the one that was further away from the bar.

Green chip action will make you stand out. You WILL be noticed, and will receive attention, not only from the pit personnel, but from chip-hustlers, too. Do not be surprised if you are approached by women who might sit next to you and try to get some of your chips, one way or the other. Even if you are spreading from $5-200 you will get attention. The heat would be about the same as playing $25 min. The definitive write-up on Veneto chip hustling in on the Wizard of Odds website. (Google it to read the article.).

I was there last year, and there were good games around, but not much. But definitely do as much scouting as you can. Things might have changed since then. Check the casino at the Continental hotel, and those casinos around there, but try to check out some others, too, like the one in the mall, on the 4th floor, next to the Hard Rock hotel. Keep your eyes open for promotions.

I did not see any beatable games in terms of shuffle-tracking or hole-carding, but did see a few games with regard to counting.

Can I ask how you arrived at your 10 k win in a week? What did you determine your E. V. Was? If it's $100/ HR, then you will have to get in 100 hours to have an E. V. Of 10 k, and you won't be able to get in 100 hours of playing time in a week.

If you can elaborate more on your game and your background, I can break it down more.

MarianoRiv
04-22-15, 16:04
I guess I would rather just play reds and not get undue attention and just have fun. As you know not every single hand will be reds so I could probably get away with some $50/$100 bets and doubles on those. FYI am a hole carder / counter so I tend to do pretty good for myself. I will def. Check out the Continental hotel area. Thanks Mariano!Now that I think about it, the hand-shuffled games at the casino in the Continental hotel might be only on the blackack variant, "Canal 21. " But yeah, check out that casino. Also check the casino in the El Panama hotel, behind the Veneto. I don't remember seeing anything interesting at the Sortis casino or in the Royal Casino (across from Habano's), but you might as well check out the Royal casino, since you may be visiting Habano's nearby! Try to check out some of the other casinos further away, if you're interested, but I didn't see too much out there. The Veneto has good potential if they open that secondary pit near the bar. No hole-carding opportunities on blackjack, as the dealer does not take a hole card in Panama.

Table max is $200. The reason I said that even red chip action will get attention is because you might have $1,000 or more in chips on the table, and that is a lot, by Panama standards. Same with bets of $100-200. They won't necessarily sweat the action, but will definitely take notice. You might even get "lucky" enough to have an experience with a chip-hustler next to you! Woohoo!

YippieKayay
04-24-15, 02:52
Now that I think about it, the hand-shuffled games at the casino in the Continental hotel might be only on the blackack variant, "Canal 21. " You are correct. The games with a shoe and not a machine reshuffling are not Blackjack but in fact variants of it which are rarely worth playing. The odds tend to be bad in those variants.

Mfins
04-24-15, 05:51
I guess I would rather just play reds and not get undue attention and just have fun. As you know not every single hand will be reds so I could probably get away with some $50/$100 bets and doubles on those. FYI am a hole carder / counter so I tend to do pretty good for myself. I will def. Check out the Continental hotel area. Thanks Mariano!Hotel Panama is the best place to play black jack in any country or casino I have ever been in. Has the best odds of any casino which favor the customer. Can double down on any 11. Even if its a 3 or 4 card 11. Not just first 2 cards.

Automatic win for a 5 card non bust without the Ace. I guess when we were kids we called it 5 card charley.

Can split Aces as many times as you like. Can surrender and other quirks I am forgetting.

They have a lucky Player card and other promotions like Joker in deck pays $50 etc. They hand shuffle.

Do not play in the front go to the back area that is where the hand shuffled games are.

Let me preface this by saying the last time I was there about 10 months ago, they were starting to change tables around and move slot machines around. So they may have switched things up. I'm not sure.

Also, No offense Hobbiest but, I am always skeptical at anyone who says they do well for themselves or consistently make money playing BJ. If you or I or anyone else were that good and we could make $10,000 in a weeklong trip I know speaking for myself I would be doing it as a job. There are very few (probably less than 100) people in the world who can actually make money consistently and a living playing BJ. Hope you get lucky and make money in panama but, that is really what it will boil down to no matter where you play. Luck.

MarianoRiv
04-24-15, 06:04
You are correct. The games with a shoe and not a machine reshuffling are not Blackjack but in fact variants of it which are rarely worth playing. The odds tend to be bad in those variants.Thanks YippieKayay, I think you are right about that, definitely at the Continental hotel, and almost all the other places, too. I was surprised that the Veneto had one pit (the one close to the bar / elevator area) where there were no shuffling machines at any of the tables, including blackjack. It seemed like that pit was only open on busy weekend nights, but there were a few blackjack games there, along with the blackjack variant game. In addition, I saw at least one or two weak shuffles there. The El Panama hotel (Crown Casino) had one good game, but in general I don't think there is too much out there. For example, I didn't see anything good in the Trump casino, although that is a rather nice place! (Also, I was surprised to read here that some chicas are working there now! Good for them!

MarianoRiv
04-24-15, 06:31
Hotel Panama is the best place to play black jack in any country or casino I have ever been in. Has the best odds of any casino which favor the customer. Can double down on any 11. Even if its a 3 or 4 card 11. Not just first 2 cards.

Automatic win for a 5 card non bust without the Ace. I guess when we were kids we called it 5 card charley.

Can split Aces as many times as you like. Can surrender and other quirks I am forgetting.

They have a lucky Player card and other promotions like Joker in deck pays $50 etc. They hand shuffle.

Do not play in the front go to the back area that is where the hand shuffled games are.

Let me preface this by saying the last time I was there about 10 months ago, they were starting to change tables around and move slot machines around. So they may have switched things up. I'm not sure.

Also, No offense Hobbiest but, I am always skeptical at anyone who says they do well for themselves or consistently make money playing BJ. If you or I or anyone else were that good and we could make $10,000 in a weeklong trip I know speaking for myself I would be doing it as a job. There are very few (probably less than 100) people in the world who can actually make money consistently and a living playing BJ. Hope you get lucky and make money in panama but, that is really what it will boil down to no matter where you play. Luck.Now this is a great post! I'm sorry that I can't confirm these rules, because I don't think these rules were in effect last November when I was there, but if this game is available with these rules, they are excellent. I mean, shit, if you find some promotion where there is a joker in the deck worth $50, you have an advantage starting off at the top of the deck! Not to mention all those other good rules, too!

I must agree with Mfins' assessment that it was eyebrow-raising and surprising to read such an optimistic expectation of such a big win (10 k). I think there is one scenario where this could be possible (legally). And that it that if someone were a very "high roller" then they can play extremely high limits in the Trump VIP casino (on the 66th floor). Table max was $5,000! But that is machine shuffled, and would entail playing at a disadvantage. No skill involved, just trying to get a lucky win.

Hobbiest1
04-24-15, 15:37
First my fellow board members you are correct about BlackJack here in PTY. It is almost all csm. Hotel Panama is pretty good with two hand shuffle games. That being said I agree now that 10 k was aggressive. I am down a little but I chalk it up to learning experience. Now onto the chicas.

Got to the 2nd floor casino bar at Venetto at 6 after fucking around with rooms and room keys for an hour. Only 3 or 4 ladies. None that I was interested in but a couple sat down and chatted up their offerings. One was a big girl but I didn't have my beer goggles on so it was a nice talk. She was here from Cuba. Don't recall her name. I had a couple Atlas beers for 2. 30. Nice! Switched to grey goose and red bull and the price was pretty high by any standard at 13. Walked to manolos but had a rude waiter so I didn't stay. It was now around 7:30 and I walked to Habanos which only had a few ladies but much higher quality.

Martha joined me for a drink. We got a cab back to V and she was my first. We went back downstairs after our in room activities and had a drink. I was on the red bull and vodka for the remainder of the night. Martha left to go back to Habanos and I had a steady stream of ladies. Next was a cute girl that I cannot remember her name and we went up for round 2. I came back down and that's when I lost my learning money at Veneto BJ. By now it was around 11.

A couple notes. Marta asked for 200 but gladly took 100 for one hour. Girl 2 from Veneto took 100. The cab from Habanos back to V was 6. Some cabbies wanted 10. Girls at V were plentiful and I thought very good looking as my expectations were lowered from RTF. I digress.

Onto the rest of the night. I pull another one for tln for 200 but I had her leave around 3 am. I had a great night. Paid / lost more than I wanted but who cares. Drinks were almost as much as the ladies. It's the beginning of day two. Stay tuned.

H1.

GauntMan
04-24-15, 17:20
First my fellow board members you are correct about BlackJack here in PTY. It is almost all csm. Hotel Panama is pretty good with two hand shuffle games. That being said I agree now that 10 k was aggressive. I am down a little but I chalk it up to learning experience. Now onto the chicas.

Got to the 2nd floor casino bar at Venetto at 6 after fucking around with rooms and room keys for an hour. Only 3 or 4 ladies. None that I was interested in but a couple sat down and chatted up their offerings. One was a big girl but I didn't have my beer goggles on so it was a nice talk. She was here from Cuba. Don't recall her name. I had a couple Atlas beers for 2. 30. Nice! Switched to grey goose and red bull and the price was pretty high by any standard at 13. Walked to manolos but had a rude waiter so I didn't stay. It was now around 7:30 and I walked to Habanos which only had a few ladies but much higher quality.

Martha joined me for a drink. We got a cab back to V and she was my first. We went back downstairs after our in room activities and had a drink. I was on the red bull and vodka for the remainder of the night. Martha left to go back to Habanos and I had a steady stream of ladies. Next was a cute girl that I cannot remember her name and we went up for round 2. I came back down and that's when I lost my learning money at Veneto BJ. By now it was around 11.

A couple notes. Marta asked for 200 but gladly took 100 for one hour. Girl 2 from Veneto took 100. The cab from Habanos back to V was 6. Some cabbies wanted 10. Girls at V were plentiful and I thought very good looking as my expectations were lowered from RTF. I digress.

Onto the rest of the night. I pull another one for tln for 200 but I had her leave around 3 am. I had a great night. Paid / lost more than I wanted but who cares. Drinks were almost as much as the ladies. It's the beginning of day two. Stay tuned.

H1.6 bucks for a cab!! To V from H? That should have been no more than 3!! If they want to charge you like 10, and if you can speak some spanish, tell them, Tengo cara de gringo o que? goes for Do I look like a gringo or what? that should get a laugh from them and can either get you the right fee or [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) them off

Agee19
04-24-15, 19:35
Once again I would like to thank all of you guys for the invaluable information. I just got back and wanted to share my experiences. I prefer a GFE so I went to my old standby CL and found a few listings. I contacted all of them and got 3 replies, so I made my first choice and contacted her. I told her I wanted a GFE and would like to get to know her via texts so when I arrive it is like we are old friends. She agreed. And we agreed on a fee, $125 for a 24 hour day all inclusive. I contacted the others and said I might need them and would contact them when I arrive. Always have a plan be and see. I told her to meet me at the hotel, Waldorf Astoria, which I will talk about later. I texted her from the airport and said I was on my way. She replied she was excited to meet me, have a great flight etc etc. We arrive at PTY early and I text her to say I will be early. A little attitude from her saying she can't change her plans, so she'll meet me when she can. I check in to the Waldorf, always have a reservation for 2, and I wait in the lobby. When she arrives, I get instantly hard. Super model looks, with the whole thing going. She has a little suit case with her and the weekend is about to start. We go up to the room and play a little and then she says she's hungry, lets eat. But first she has to change and goes from Hot to Hotter. We go to a brew pub and then to a disco in Casco Viejo. Its great, not only do I have a model quality date but a guide as well. But now there are issues, the place is packed with good looking people and she is more interested in her phone (yeah the constant texting is annoying) and checking out the other guys. But I buy her some drinks to loosen her up and finally she says lets go back to the room. I'm in! Well, maybe I bought her one drink too many, she drops on the bed and is fast asleep. Oh well I've seen this before.

Next day, the prima donna routine starts again, has to do hair, etc etc, but when she gets done, she's a 10+. Have breakfast and off to do some sightseeing stuff. We end up at the fish market and the bottom falls out. As we are arriving at the market it starts to rain and she refuses to get out of the cab. Now this is not a downpour but a slight shower. She starts to yell at the cab driver to get closer and he refuses to move, she refuses to get out and I literally have to drag her out of the cab. Well, her hair got wet even though she tried to put her shirt on top of it. And now she's mad at me, refuses to go anywhere in the market, its not her type of place and wants to go back to the hotel. I agree. Pay her and tell her to get lost.

Time for plan B. I call her and she says she can't make it but she will send a friend over tomorrow. I agree. In the meantime I have nothing to do tonight so I go to Veneto. I hated it. It seemed like a Middle school dance. Girls on one side, guys on the other. So I left, outside on the street a chica approached me, she's a 5 and asks if I want to play. OK I say, how much do I want to pay she asks. I said $40 she says $60. I say OK, so we go to a $10 motel. For $60 she was fine. Many of you guys are paying way too much.

Next morning GF #2 arrives at hotel, she's a 7-7.5 but her personality is off the charts. She's my girlfriend. She greeted me with a kiss like we haven't seen each other in a year. I was with her for 3 days and I don't think we spent 14 seconds apart without holding hands. She was my guide, friend and lover. It was great. It was exactly the experience I was looking for and I will return to be with her. Oh, and when it was time to pay her, she was hesitant to take the money. But she did.

Now about the Waldorf. As I said, I always make a reservation for 2. Now who is the hotel to say who I can or not count as person #2. With the exception of Middle east hotels they are not the moral police. I paid for 2 people and that's how many will stay in the room. They did ask for the Drama Queen to show her ID which is fine. But when the Girfriend arrived I said nothing and nobody said anything to me. That being said we blended in nicely. The girls were not dressed like hookers and no one was screaming or carrying on and if I want to bring 3 girls to the room that might be a problem but I can understand that. But anyone who wants to remain under the radar should have no qualms about bringing a girl to any room in any hotel in any city. Just make a reservation for 2.

Now my final comments is about the taxistas. Yes I speak Spanish so I have an advantage. I have been to over 200 cities in 60 countries and I found the PC drivers to be one of the most friendliest drivers I have ever encountered. In most cases the negotiating was done in a friendly manner. I always tell the driver where I want to go and ask how much it costs 50% of the time I got the right answer. The other 50% I said no and gave the right number all except one agreed. The one time the driver didn't agree another cab pulled right up and we got in. Guys, be firm and please don't overpay.

So that's the report. Can't wait to go back.

MarianoRiv
04-24-15, 19:37
First my fellow board members you are correct about BlackJack here in PTY. It is almost all csm. Hotel Panama is pretty good with two hand shuffle games. That being said I agree now that 10 k was aggressive. I am down a little but I chalk it up to learning experience. Now onto the chicas.

Got to the 2nd floor casino bar at Venetto at 6 after fucking around with rooms and room keys for an hour. Only 3 or 4 ladies. None that I was interested in but a couple sat down and chatted up their offerings. One was a big girl but I didn't have my beer goggles on so it was a nice talk. She was here from Cuba. Don't recall her name. I had a couple Atlas beers for 2. 30. Nice! Switched to grey goose and red bull and the price was pretty high by any standard at 13. Walked to manolos but had a rude waiter so I didn't stay. It was now around 7:30 and I walked to Habanos which only had a few ladies but much higher quality.

Martha joined me for a drink. We got a cab back to V and she was my first. We went back downstairs after our in room activities and had a drink. I was on the red bull and vodka for the remainder of the night. Martha left to go back to Habanos and I had a steady stream of ladies. Next was a cute girl that I cannot remember her name and we went up for round 2. I came back down and that's when I lost my learning money at Veneto BJ. By now it was around 11.

A couple notes. Marta asked for 200 but gladly took 100 for one hour. Girl 2 from Veneto took 100. The cab from Habanos back to V was 6. Some cabbies wanted 10. Girls at V were plentiful and I thought very good looking as my expectations were lowered from RTF. I digress.

Onto the rest of the night. I pull another one for tln for 200 but I had her leave around 3 am. I had a great night. Paid / lost more than I wanted but who cares. Drinks were almost as much as the ladies. It's the beginning of day two. Stay tuned.

H1.Thanks for the report, Hobbiest1. It sounds like you got started with a bang! Keep us posted with the reports! And yeah, they charge a lot for cocktails there, for some reason. To save money, drink bottled beer (try Balboa beer), and pay 3 or 4 bucks for taxi rides. Most importantly, check out La Bocatorena for cheap lays ($15). It's walking distance from the fish market or Casco Viejo, and those places are both recommended to visit, as well as La Bocatorena and La Mayor (next door). Have fun!

Oh hey, here is an example of a casino promotion that I found when I was there: It was at Majestic Casino, which is on the 4th floor of the big shopping mall, next to the Hard Rock hotel. This was for the Chinese holiday called "Moon Festival". The deal was that they gave you a bonus of 20% of your buy-in in the form of promotional chips, up to a maximum buy-in of $1,000. This was on the baccarat game, and I was the only non-Asian person who took part. The play was to buy-in for $1,000 and get the $200 in "funny money" promo chips. You play these chips just like normal chips, and they take them back after you play them, but if you win the bet they pay you in real chips. So the expected value of these $200 in promo chips is about $100 in real money, since you win roughly half the time. I won $120 off of those "funny money" chips. Once the promo chips are gone, you are done. You are not there to gamble. That is the kind of thing I meant when I said to keep your eyes open for promotions. It doesn't necessarily have to be blackjack. A player advantage is player advantage, whatever the game is.

DocInHeat
04-24-15, 20:10
Another great trip to Panama City. The place just continues to grow and the traffic along with it! Despite staying at the new Sortis Hotel / Casino I found myself heading out to Veneto and Habanos a lot. The poker was fine at Sortis, but never saw anyone playing craps the whole time. Veneto action much better. And then there are the girls. Had a free room at Sortis, but ended up also getting a room at Veneto for convenience. There are now a lot of Cubans entering the arena and a nice change of pace. I agree with other posters: 1) usually just as pretty, 2) better service and 3) cheaper. I could never negotiate the few Colombians I was interested in to below $200. But I will say I did get great service. However I did get equally good, if not better service from Cubans for $100 to $150. BTW, I asked the front desk guys about the hotel closing, but they said they hadn't heard of anything. Also went to Habanos, and yes it was rocking, but it was hot and crowded and harder to see what you were getting. Also, went to take some friends to LE Palace and it still remains very pricey, though one of my friends did take out with Mariana who was a Japanese-Colombian and said he had a fantastic time.

Doc

YippieKayay
04-26-15, 01:05
Agee19 thanks for the report.


Next day, the prima donna routine starts again, has to do hair, etc etc, but when she gets done, she's a 10+. Have breakfast and off to do some sightseeing stuff. We end up at the fish market and the bottom falls out. As we are arriving at the market it starts to rain and she refuses to get out of the cab. Now this is not a downpour but a slight shower. She starts to yell at the cab driver to get closer and he refuses to move, she refuses to get out and I literally have to drag her out of the cab. Well, her hair got wet even though she tried to put her shirt on top of it. And now she's mad at me, refuses to go anywhere in the market, its not her type of place and wants to go back to the hotel. I agree. Pay her and tell her to get lost..Meh. It almost sounds like she planned to be a pain. This is the problem with some chicks. You need to test drive them before doing an all day thing. Otherwise you don't know what you're getting.


Time for plan B. ... Oh, and when it was time to pay her, she was hesitant to take the money. But she did.Don't fall for it. The entire thing is an act to stroke your ego. She did not hesitate when you offered her money. She pretended to. If you see her again, the next time she hesitates put the money away and watch her do a 180. You want to have fun when you do these things, and even maybe make a friend but keep in mind it's all a hustle.


Now about the Waldorf. As I said, I always make a reservation for 2. Now who is the hotel to say who I can or not count as person #2. With the exception of Middle east hotels they are not the moral police. I paid for 2 people and that's how many will stay in the room. They did ask for the Drama Queen to show her ID which is fine. But when the Girfriend arrived I said nothing and nobody said anything to me. That being said we blended in nicely. The girls were not dressed like hookers and no one was screaming or carrying on and if I want to bring 3 girls to the room that might be a problem but I can understand that. But anyone who wants to remain under the radar should have no qualms about bringing a girl to any room in any hotel in any city. Just make a reservation for 2.We've had posts here saying the Waldorf will absolutely not let women come up with you. It really depends on your demeanor and what she looks like.

Dickhead
04-26-15, 05:30
6 bucks for a cab!! To V from H? That should have been no more than 3!!Sigh. You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink. You can dress them up, but you can't take them out. And so forth. Have I not posted ad nauseum about this stuff in PTY? Because I do, in fact, have a cara de gringo, I would say one of the following:

1) Deja de joderme.
2) Nací en la noche pero no fue anoche.
3) Me cago en vos y en la puta que te parió.

That last one might be a little extreme.

Mngr18
04-26-15, 15:49
Hey all,

Was wondering what the latest update regarding Veneto and getting girls up to the room. I was last there in December and I snuck girls up when the guard wasn't looking but it wasn't easy. Also, if I book a room for 2 can I get another girl in there? I'll be in Panama City for one night coming back from Colombia on May 16th if anyone wants to monger together.

Thanks!

P.S- I love la Bocaretona. It's so easy and as long as you're not an idiot its completely safe.

Hobbiest1
04-26-15, 21:43
Hey all,

Was wondering what the latest update regarding Veneto and getting girls up to the room. I was last there in December and I snuck girls up when the guard wasn't looking but it wasn't easy. Also, if I book a room for 2 can I get another girl in there? I'll be in Panama City for one night coming back from Colombia on May 16th if anyone wants to monger together.

Thanks!

P.S- I love la Bocaretona. It's so easy and as long as you're not an idiot its completely safe.Hey mngr18 - I am here on my last night in PTY and I am staying at Veneto and here is what I discovered. There is a system set up here where the girl must buy a wristband for 25 usd. That lets security know they are registered. As for girls from outside Venetto I brought one back from Habanos without any issue.

I didn't know how things worked here so I registered with a fictitious second person -ms Hobbiest1 - and told them she was coming in later. They said she would have to register at front desk with a copy of her passport. Just like when I registered.

Have fun!! H1.

Hobbiest1
04-28-15, 22:54
This is the remainder of my trip (at least from what I can remember) .

Day 2 - Friday.

Today started out awful. When I packed for this trip, I packed a cheap razor. I needed a shave and ended up slicing my neck many ways. I also sliced a nice gash around my nose. Oh well. So I was pretty hung over from the previous nights activities but ended up in a vertical position. I went to Manolo for breakfast around 11 am. Started to plan my day. I went over to the El Panama hotel. All I can say is WOW! You finally realize what a shit hole Venetto really is when you go into another hotel. This place is pretty nice and convenient to Venetto so I will probably stay there the next visit. I was in search of the blackjack game that someone mentioned. I eventually found it adjacent to El Panama in the Crown Casino. I ended up on the plus side so that evened out my losses from the previous night. Now it was around 4 pm. I went to the second level bar at Venetto and there were the same two "early girls" from the previous day so I just had a couple beers and went back to my room for a little while. Around 7 a chick that I met the previous night named Elizabeth texted me to join her downstairs for sushi. Elisabeth is a light blond girl I think from Panama. She was nice but not my type so I told her straight up that I wasnt going to fuck her but I did pay for dinner and drinks.

By now its around 8:30 and I ended up meeting a hot cuban that I took upstairs. Again $100/ hour. Great service. I went back downstairs to see what else was available and Ruby came over. Ruby is a Columbiana but she looks Filipina to me. Anyhow I had just spent an HR with the Cuban so I needed to re-charge and told Ruby Manana.

Day 3 - Saturday.

I went to the Panama canal and was bored to tears within one hour so I was back to base-camp by noon. I went to El Panama and had some really awesome sushi. Great staff and great food. I coordinated to meet Mr. Gauntman at Bar Peru 37. I have to say that this place is not what I expected. For some reason I expected all these slutty waitresses to come over and flirt and the best we had was one mediocre waitress who took our drink order. Needless to say, we didn't stay long. Mr. Gaunt and I went to Crown Casino. I had made plans to meet some guys that I met the previous night so I had to go at around 5 for dinner. Got back to Venetto around 8 and there was my little Ruby. Waiting just for me I took her up to the room and banged her. Went back down and nothing appealed to me so I called it an early night.

Final day. Day 4 - Sunday.

Today I wanted to venture over to the fish market area where Boca Toreno and El Mayor are. I first went into the fish market looking for breakfast but there werent any restaurants serving breakfast. They were all serving fish. DUH! Anyhow, I walked around the area and saw El Mayor but I just wasnt up for the potential excitement so I diod an about face and headed back to base-camp. Lunch at Manolo. Hooked up with my buddies again and we went to Habanos at around 8 pm. I have to say that IMHO the women at Venetto were just as hot as the women at Habanos. Again. Just my opinion and I am sure this stuff changes all the time. My buddies had hired a driver and a huge-ass black van so they hauled a few ladies from Habanos and we went to the Hard Rock. Meh. Then we went to club Asche. OK - Just OK. I had enough so I headed back to Venetto as I had a early flight to catch in the AM. Nothing really appealing there so I just had a couple more Grey Goose and Red Bulls.

That all I got! I will return to PTY soon. Just not sure when as I am headed over to Frankfurt in exactly 4 weeks for some fun there in the FKK clubs!

H1.

Lucky Nuts
04-29-15, 03:20
I haven't been able to find any info here on getting a sim card in Panama for my unlocked android phone. Could someone let me know if it's easy as most countries and recommended a service provider.

Thanks!

Dickhead
04-29-15, 03:47
SIM cards can be bought pretty much anywhere. I use Claró when I am in Panamá. Similarly they can be recharged at any grocery or kiosko, and at many drugstores. It isn't anything you need to worry about.

LolwtfMan
04-29-15, 05:31
Anybody with experience dealing with friendliness of the Sortis? Looks to be a Marriott hotel but I've had two chicas tell me its usually not a problem?

Mfins
04-29-15, 06:58
Sigh. You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink. You can dress them up, but you can't take them out. And so forth. Have I not posted ad nauseum about this stuff in PTY? Because I do, in fact, have a cara de gringo, I would say one of the following:

1) Deja de joderme.
2) Nac en la noche pero no fue anoche.
3) Me cago en vos y en la puta que te pari.

That last one might be a little extreme.Respect your way of doing things and your opinion but, maybe the guy just doesn't want to sit there and argue over $3. 00. Or get out of one cab and go to another, or worry about cab fares and stress about it at all. Its a vacation. I completely respect the guy who wants to walk, take the bus or pull out the official taxi fare sheet but, some some vacationers are not that concerned over the cabbie getting an extra $2 or $3. Personally to me the $3 gringo tax is not a bother.

Mfins
04-29-15, 07:03
This is the remainder of my trip (at least from what I can remember) .

Day 2 - Friday.

Today started out awful. When I packed for this trip, I packed a cheap razor. I needed a shave and ended up slicing my neck many ways. I also sliced a nice gash around my nose. Oh well. So I was pretty hung over from the previous nights activities but ended up in a vertical position. I went to Manolo for breakfast around 11 am. Started to plan my day. I went over to the El Panama hotel. All I can say is WOW! You finally realize what a shit hole Venetto really is when you go into another hotel. This place is pretty nice and convenient to Venetto so I will probably stay there the next visit. I was in search of the blackjack game that someone mentioned. I eventually found it adjacent to El Panama in the Crown Casino. I ended up on the plus side so that evened out my losses from the previous night. Now it was around 4 pm. I went to the second level bar at Venetto and there were the same two "early girls" from the previous day so I just had a couple beers and went back to my room for a little while. Around 7 a chick that I met the previous night named Elizabeth texted me to join her downstairs for sushi. Elisabeth is a light blond girl I think from Panama. She was nice but not my type so I told her straight up that I wasnt going to fuck her but I did pay for dinner and drinks.

By now its around 8:30 and I ended up meeting a hot cuban that I took upstairs. Again $100/ hour. Great service. I went back downstairs to see what else was available and Ruby came over. Ruby is a Columbiana but she looks Filipina to me. Anyhow I had just spent an HR with the Cuban so I needed to re-charge and told Ruby Manana.

Day 3 - Saturday.

I went to the Panama canal and was bored to tears within one hour so I was back to base-camp by noon. I went to El Panama and had some really awesome sushi. Great staff and great food. I coordinated to meet Mr. Gauntman at Bar Peru 37. I have to say that this place is not what I expected. For some reason I expected all these slutty waitresses to come over and flirt and the best we had was one mediocre waitress who took our drink order. Needless to say, we didn't stay long. Mr. Gaunt and I went to Crown Casino. I had made plans to meet some guys that I met the previous night so I had to go at around 5 for dinner. Got back to Venetto around 8 and there was my little Ruby. Waiting just for me I took her up to the room and banged her. Went back down and nothing appealed to me so I called it an early night.

Final day. Day 4 - Sunday.

Today I wanted to venture over to the fish market area where Boca Toreno and El Mayor are. I first went into the fish market looking for breakfast but there werent any restaurants serving breakfast. They were all serving fish. DUH! Anyhow, I walked around the area and saw El Mayor but I just wasnt up for the potential excitement so I diod an about face and headed back to base-camp. Lunch at Manolo. Hooked up with my buddies again and we went to Habanos at around 8 pm. I have to say that IMHO the women at Venetto were just as hot as the women at Habanos. Again. Just my opinion and I am sure this stuff changes all the time. My buddies had hired a driver and a huge-ass black van so they hauled a few ladies from Habanos and we went to the Hard Rock. Meh. Then we went to club Asche. OK - Just OK. I had enough so I headed back to Venetto as I had a early flight to catch in the AM. Nothing really appealing there so I just had a couple more Grey Goose and Red Bulls.

That all I got! I will return to PTY soon. Just not sure when as I am headed over to Frankfurt in exactly 4 weeks for some fun there in the FKK clubs!

H1.Good work, sounds like you made the trip a success and had a good time!

Dickhead
04-30-15, 02:13
Respect your way of doing things and your opinion but, maybe the guy just doesn't want to sit there and argue over $3. 00. Or get out of one cab and go to another, or worry about cab fares and stress about it at all. Its a vacation. I completely respect the guy who wants to walk, take the bus or pull out the official taxi fare sheet but, some some vacationers are not that concerned over the cabbie getting an extra $2 or $3. Personally to me the $3 gringo tax is not a bother.This type of thinking is how places like Costa Rica got ruined, one clueless gringo at a time. Overpay for cabs, overpay for pussy, tip 2 and 3 times the local rate. It's also why I don't share information on specific chicas any more. I guess we have to separate out the mongers from the tourists but it doesn't just mess things up for mongers. It messes things up for tourists and subsequent vacationers as well. Only people from the US do this shit, by the way. Even Canadians have more sense.

Raju1
04-30-15, 23:42
Is there a hotel showing the fight this weekend?

Dickhead
05-01-15, 20:07
As As part of my afternoon constitutional, I stopped in Hotel Veneto today to see if it was really a run down dump with no AC. Well, kinda. The AC was certainly on but the lobby was pretty warm, probably 25-27 degrees. What they would call the first floor, but what is actually the second floor, where the casino is, was somewhat cooler, maybe 24 C. Then, in the interest of research for my fellow mongers, I walked to Hábanos and counted the steps. Crossing at the crfosswalk and not using the bridge, and walking very slowly to conserve energy, it took me 648 steps from the front door of the one to the front door of the other. And yes, there are sidewalks thee whole way.

GauntMan
05-01-15, 21:05
Is there a hotel showing the fight this weekend?Almost any place you could think about that sells alcohol will show the fight.

ClubTed
05-01-15, 22:42
I'm new to the PTY board. But a longtime SXM poster. Love the post! Priceless! Damn Dickhead. I want you as my wingman! But if you jump the last step. Does that make it only 647? LOL!


As As part of my afternoon constitutional, I stopped in Hotel Veneto today to see if it was really a run down dump with no AC. Well, kinda. The AC was certainly on but the lobby was pretty warm, probably 25-27 degrees. What they would call the first floor, but what is actually the second floor, where the casino is, was somewhat cooler, maybe 24 C. Then, in the interest of research for my fellow mongers, I walked to Hbanos and counted the steps. Crossing at the crosswalk and not using the bridge, and walking very slowly to conserve energy, it took me 648 steps from the front door of the one to the front door of the other. And yes, there are sidewalks the whole way.

Mfins
05-02-15, 06:05
This type of thinking is how places like Costa Rica got ruined, one clueless gringo at a time. Overpay for cabs, overpay for pussy, tip 2 and 3 times the local rate. It's also why I don't share information on specific chicas any more. I guess we have to separate out the mongers from the tourists but it doesn't just mess things up for mongers. It messes things up for tourists and subsequent vacationers as well. Only people from the US do this shit, by the way. Even Canadians have more sense.So Funny. There is a huge difference in paying a cab $1 or $2 extra to avoid a hassle and overpaying a Clock watching, Mechanical chica $100 or more. And yes, sometimes the Taxi's down there try and overcharge a ridiculous amount like $25 for a $5 ride. Then I do complain, but over a buck or two. Come on. Who has the time to take a moral stand over that. Shoot my time is worth more than that then to sit there and argue when I am on vacation.

Also, People from all over the world do it. Not just Amercians as you say. I sat a Habanos one night and partied with two Mexican tourists who way over payed the girls that night. I did not however get on my high horse and preach to them. Then the next night I hung out with a guy from Venezuela. Same thing he payed $300 for an hour session. Also, if you go to Habanos enough there is a Swiss guy, blonde hair. He is there all the time. He knows all the girls there and still over pays. So no its not just Americans.

Lastly taking a moral stand or protesting, or making a fuss over a few dollars is not going to make one bit of difference. There are millions of tourists arriving to Panama each year and probably only 200 or so actually read this forum. I guess if you really want to make a difference pass out a pamphlet to every tourist that arrives into Tocumen Airport.

Dickhead
05-02-15, 06:12
I read your posting history and how you got ripped off for like $20 by a cabbie in the DR, and he called the cops, and the cops told you he had no leg to stand on, but you "threw $X dollars at him anyway" because you "didn't want to deal with it" or some shit. I also read how you laid your credit card on the bar at the Del Rey in Costa Rica and got ripped off for like $350 or thereabouts. So it is not just a couple of dollars we are talking about with you, now is it? But peace my brother and live like you want to live.

Mfins
05-05-15, 04:06
I read your posting history and how you got ripped off for like $20 by a cabbie in the DR, and he called the cops, and the cops told you he had no leg to stand on, but you "threw $X dollars at him anyway" because you "didn't want to deal with it" or some shit. I also read how you laid your credit card on the bar at the Del Rey in Costa Rica and got ripped off for like $350 or thereabouts. So it is not just a couple of dollars we are talking about with you, now is it? But peace my brother and live like you want to live.I guess I'm missing something. Your exactly right. We agree. I am not into making a big deal on vacation over a few dollars.

I did make a big deal over the $350 in Costa Rica. And in the DR just threw the $10 because it meant nothing and I proved a point. He was originally trying to squeeze me for like $25 more than what the fare should have been.

So, yes when its a few bucks its not worth the hassle when, its a lot of bucks I will stand up for myself.

I realize that when I am drinking, Banging girls for money, partying like crazy and I am on vacation in another country there is going to be stuff that happens and an ocasional loss of $. The trick is not to ruin the trip by wasting time fighting over a few dollars and just factor in a little shrinkage from time to time.

Mfins
05-05-15, 04:12
I guess I'm missing something. Your exactly right. We agree. I am not into making a big deal on vacation over a few dollars.

I did make a big deal over the $350 in Costa Rica. And in the DR just threw the $10 because it meant nothing and I proved a point. He was originally trying to squeeze me for like $25 more than what the fare should have been.

So, yes when its a few bucks its not worth the hassle when, its a lot of bucks I will stand up for myself.

I realize that when I am drinking, Banging girls for money, partying like crazy and I am on vacation in another country there is going to be stuff that happens and an ocasional loss of $. The trick is not to ruin the trip by wasting time fighting over a few dollars and just factor in a little shrinkage from time to time.I also want to add something. Each country is different. Colombia, taxis are metered. El Salvador there is a set fare from zone to zone. Honduras, the cabs are supposed to post what each fare costs. The DR is by far the worst and the taxis are notorious for gringo tax by huge margins. So much so that it is insulting. Panama, most taxis the most they are going to Gringo Tax you for is a couple / few dollars. Again, each place is different which in turn causes each reaction to a problem to be different.

Dickhead
05-05-15, 04:43
I guess I'm missing something too; what "point did you prove" by giving the taxista in the DR $10 when the cops agreed you were right? I am not on vacation so maybe that's the difference; a "few bucks" every fucking day would begin to add up. It would seem to me that if you have a second home in El Salvador, then you aren't on vacation when you go there. So do you behave differently there? And you say (I have not been there) that there is a "set fare from zone to zone" in El Salvador. That is exactly what they have in Panamá. I will say I have a strong preference for metered taxis, but mandatory zone fares such as exist in Panamá can accomplish the same thing. But only if you make the taxista adhere to them. I guess I don't see why anyone would pay more than twice as much the regulated zone fare any more than they would pay more than twice as much as the meter in Costa Rica or Colombia. Of course, in Colombia the taxistas give you back counterfeit money as change, switch the bill you give them for a counterfeit one, and all kinds of other bullshit they don't do in Costa Rica. Then the other thing I guess I'm missing is why making a taxista adhere to the lawful fares would "ruin the trip. " Seems to me that getting ripped off every time you turn around would be more likely to ruin a trip.

The other thing about panamanian taxistas I don't like? They drive like SHIT. They text while they drive too, except I don't allow them to do that: 'este no se hace mientras manejando.' They don't like hearing that, but if they ignore my request, I make them pull over and I give them a dollar and get out. It doesn't ruin my trip! Now, a car wreck caused by a texting driver (while tailgating, honking constantly, cutting off other drivers, etc.) could ruin a trip.

Now, to return to the subject of pussy, I knew Hábanos would empty out when the fight started so as it began to empty out, I selected a nice panameña and took her back to my hotel. My hotel is four blocks away. We walked. She had no problem with it. I have never had any exceptional panamanian pussy and this was no exception, but they are a lot less trouble than the colombianas, and they don't get as drunk either. Looks 7, performance 6, blow and go. I paid her $70 and made sure to give her two fives so she would not have a problem getting change from the taxista. I offered to go downstairs and make sure she got one with no problem, since the fight was still on, but she called one she knew and I did not have to bother.

Mfins
05-06-15, 05:41
I guess I'm missing something too; what "point did you prove" by giving the taxista in the DR $10 when the cops agreed you were right? I am not on vacation so maybe that's the difference; a "few bucks" every fucking day would begin to add up. It would seem to me that if you have a second home in El Salvador, then you aren't on vacation when you go there. So do you behave differently there? And you say (I have not been there) that there is a "set fare from zone to zone" in El Salvador. That is exactly what they have in Panam. I will say I have a strong preference for metered taxis, but mandatory zone fares such as exist in Panam can accomplish the same thing. But only if you make the taxista adhere to them. I guess I don't see why anyone would pay more than twice as much the regulated zone fare any more than they would pay more than twice as much as the meter in Costa Rica or Colombia. Of course, in Colombia the taxistas give you back counterfeit money as change, switch the bill you give them for a counterfeit one, and all kinds of other bullshit they don't do in Costa Rica. Then the other thing I guess I'm missing is why making a taxista adhere to the lawful fares would "ruin the trip. " Seems to me that getting ripped off every time you turn around would be more likely to ruin a trip.

The other thing about panamanian taxistas I don't like? They drive like SHIT. They text while they drive too, except I don't allow them to do that: 'este no se hace mientras manejando.' They don't like hearing that, but if they ignore my request, I make them pull over and I give them a dollar and get out. It doesn't ruin my trip! Now, a car wreck caused by a texting driver (while tailgating, honking constantly, cutting off other drivers, etc.) could ruin a trip.

Now, to return to the subject of pussy, I knew Hbanos would empty out when the fight started so as it began to empty out, I selected a nice panamea and took her back to my hotel. My hotel is four blocks away. We walked. She had no problem with it. I have never had any exceptional panamanian pussy and this was no exception, but they are a lot less trouble than the colombianas, and they don't get as drunk either. Looks 7, performance 6, blow and go. I paid her $70 and made sure to give her two fives so she would not have a problem getting change from the taxista. I offered to go downstairs and make sure she got one with no problem, since the fight was still on, but she called one she knew and I did not have to bother.Ummm yeah, okay, Anyway, My point is I am not going to waste even one minute, or one breath, or one brain cell trying to convince a taxi driver that the fare is $3 when he asks for $5. I pay the $5 exit the car and smile.

When A Cabbie, actually asks me for the correct fare of $3, I am so shocked and grateful that I give him a twenty and tell him to keep the change.

Lucky Nuts
05-06-15, 15:04
Ummm yeah, okay, Anyway, My point is I am not going to waste even one minute, or one breath, or one brain cell trying to convince a taxi driver that the fare is $3 when he asks for $5. I pay the $5 exit the car and smile.

When A Cabbie, actually asks me for the correct fare of $3, I am so shocked and grateful that I give him a twenty and tell him to keep the change.LOL! I've also had this shocking experience but I only throw a 5. I don't screw around with singles in Panama. Sorry to be ruining it for others.

Mr HC
05-06-15, 16:19
I am going to Panama for the first time. Does anyone know if the Hyatt Place in Panama City is chica friendly and if so is there a fee? If the Hyatt is not good is there another hotel you would recommend? I am looking for a nice "western style" place to stay, preferably a 4 or 5 star hotel or condominium complex.

Thanks in advance to all who respond.

GauntMan
05-06-15, 23:15
I am going to Panama for the first time. Does anyone know if the Hyatt Place in Panama City is chica friendly and if so is there a fee? If the Hyatt is not good is there another hotel you would recommend? I am looking for a nice "western style" place to stay, preferably a 4 or 5 star hotel or condominium complex.

Thanks in advance to all who respond.Check my hotel recon as a guide for hotels. Most high to medium high scale hotels arent chica friendly.

MadVillian
05-07-15, 01:22
Check my hotel recon as a guide for hotels. Most high to medium high scale hotels arent chica friendly.Can you put a link to your post on hotels. I'm looking for a new chica friendly spot, since I'm nervous about booking with Veneto again (lack of maintenance, chica fees last year, ongoing rumors of closing).

TellAll
05-07-15, 03:50
Can you put a link to your post on hotels. I'm looking for a new chica friendly spot, since I'm nervous about booking with Veneto again (lack of maintenance, chica fees last year, ongoing rumors of closing).Just spent a week in the Veneto. Other then customer service being shit as it is in most places I went in Panama, it was business as usual with the chicas. This was my third trip to Panama.

Can't say I like Panama much and doubt that I will go back. Had a much better time in Colombia.

Mfins
05-07-15, 06:13
I am going to Panama for the first time. Does anyone know if the Hyatt Place in Panama City is chica friendly and if so is there a fee? If the Hyatt is not good is there another hotel you would recommend? I am looking for a nice "western style" place to stay, preferably a 4 or 5 star hotel or condominium complex.

Thanks in advance to all who respond.This question comes up a lot in the Panama forum. Which hotels are chica friendly and which are not. As a general rule, any hotel that is 3 stars and up or over $75 a night is not chica friendly. Many that are under $75 also are not chica friendly but by rule anything over that is a no no. Yes there are a couple of exceptions but not many and the rules seem to change with who is working security / reception at the particular time you return to the hotel with your new found date.

Not in MR HC's case but, Most of the questions about hotels start off by saying, " I am staying at the blah blah hotel" is it chica friendly.

I know sometimes one's company is paying for it or someone else made the reservation but, if all possible ask before paying or making a non refundable reservation. There are not many countries I recommend renting a condo when visiting but, Panama is def. One of them. There are a ton of condos for short term rental on VRBO at a reasonable price. Most are centrally located and it takes the guess work out of the Panama Hotel scene.

Agee19
05-07-15, 14:03
This question comes up a lot in the Panama forum. Which hotels are chica friendly and which are not. As a general rule, any hotel that is 3 stars and up or over $75 a night is not chica friendly. Many that are under $75 also are not chica friendly but by rule anything over that is a no no. Yes there are a couple of exceptions but not many and the rules seem to change with who is working security / reception at the particular time you return to the hotel with your new found date.

Not in MR HC's case but, Most of the questions about hotels start off by saying, " I am staying at the blah blah hotel" is it chica friendly.

I know sometimes one's company is paying for it or someone else made the reservation but, if all possible ask before paying or making a non refundable reservation. There are not many countries I recommend renting a condo when visiting but, Panama is def. One of them. There are a ton of condos for short term rental on VRBO at a reasonable price. Most are centrally located and it takes the guess work out of the Panama Hotel scene.It still amazes me that aggressive guys who know how to negotiate with a working girl, can handle a cabbie and are world travelers become sissy little pansies when it comes to a hotel. It's simple. Make a reservation for 2. No where does it state in any hotel policy that the second person has to be related, a spouse a friend for at least 9 years or a business associate. The second person can be anyone you want. Have I had situations in the past with over zealous security guards? Yes! But I always win why? Because I'm the paying guest and I did nothing wrong. Agreed, sometimes I had to speak to a manager and point out that one plus one equals two and in that simple scenario it is hard to argue. Obviously you are going to be discreet and hopefully upscale for the 4 or 5 star hotel your staying in, but don't allow anyone to tell you what you can or cannot do. Understand?

Hobbiest1
05-07-15, 21:09
It still amazes me that aggressive guys who know how to negotiate with a working girl, can handle a cabbie and are world travelers become sissy little pansies when it comes to a hotel. It's simple. Make a reservation for 2. No where does it state in any hotel policy that the second person has to be related, a spouse a friend for at least 9 years or a business associate. The second person can be anyone you want. Have I had situations in the past with over zealous security guards? Yes! But I always win why? Because I'm the paying guest and I did nothing wrong. Agreed, sometimes I had to speak to a manager and point out that one plus one equals two and in that simple scenario it is hard to argue. Obviously you are going to be discreet and hopefully upscale for the 4 or 5 star hotel your staying in, but don't allow anyone to tell you what you can or cannot do. Understand?So I did exactly as you said. I registered a 'ghost guest'. At Veneto. When I checked in they said where is the other person? I said catching a later flight. They said fine. No problem but when she does arrive she needs to register. Whe I registered they asked for my passport so I am guessing the same would have been true for her.

Agee19
05-07-15, 21:20
So I did exactly as you said. I registered a 'ghost guest'. At Veneto. When I checked in they said where is the other person? I said catching a later flight. They said fine. No problem but when she does arrive she needs to register. Whe I registered they asked for my passport so I am guessing the same would have been true for her.Exactly. You have to register your guest and she has to show an ID, but that's that. 3 weeks ago the same thing happened to me at the Waldorf Astoria. I checked in, gave my passport and they asked where is guest #2. I said arriving later. When she came she showed her ID at reception, they made a copy and told us to have a pleasant evening. Simple. The next night, if there is a new guest, repeat the process. No where does it say that the same guest has to be with you every night. Follow the rules but, Remember! You are the paying guest! Don't allow anyone to bully you. If you make a reservation for 2 you are allowed 2. Period.

Old Parr
05-07-15, 22:31
So I did exactly as you said. I registered a 'ghost guest'. At Veneto. When I checked in they said where is the other person? I said catching a later flight. They said fine. No problem but when she does arrive she needs to register. When I registered they asked for my passport so I am guessing the same would have been true for her.And that is the way it happens 95 percent of the time at the nicer hotels. Age19 I think is still a rookie, clueless, or is a budget traveler who does not stay in the finer places, or he would have understood the way things work at the nicer accommodations.

Lucky Strike
05-08-15, 22:42
Does anyone know if El Panama is chica-friendly?

Thanks in advance.

Old Parr
05-09-15, 01:52
Does anyone know if El Panama is chica-friendly?

Thanks in advance.Give them a call then you will know for sure!

http://www.elpanama.com/contact-information-en.html

Reservations: (507) 215-9182.

Toll Free: 1-877-567-9436.

Fax: (507) 269-4179.

Mfins
05-09-15, 04:10
It still amazes me that aggressive guys who know how to negotiate with a working girl, can handle a cabbie and are world travelers become sissy little pansies when it comes to a hotel. It's simple. Make a reservation for 2. No where does it state in any hotel policy that the second person has to be related, a spouse a friend for at least 9 years or a business associate. The second person can be anyone you want. Have I had situations in the past with over zealous security guards? Yes! But I always win why? Because I'm the paying guest and I did nothing wrong. Agreed, sometimes I had to speak to a manager and point out that one plus one equals two and in that simple scenario it is hard to argue. Obviously you are going to be discreet and hopefully upscale for the 4 or 5 star hotel your staying in, but don't allow anyone to tell you what you can or cannot do. Understand?Its just not that simple in panama. Sorry.

A Colombian / Cuban working girl can be spotted by the local Panamanian Hotel Security guard or receptionist from a mile a way. Even if she is dressed conservitavley. You can argue to your hearts content but, they know what is up. A simple give away is the John speaks no spanish your date speaks no english where as the hotel receptionist speaks both. In addition they are usually 20 years old where you are 40 and over. However, none of that even matters the Colombians, dress different, talk different act different, look different and the hotel workers know it. If it is a female hotel receptionist even worse. She knows what you are doing, resents the fact that the Colombiana's are selling there bodies in her country and are jelous that your date is better looking than she is.

Also, the rule of booking the room with 2 people is fine however 9 times out of 10 that person must Register at the same time you do when checking in. There name must be on the Reservation or Check in Card when you check in. Not the next night or the night after. Also, even if you register her and get away with it the first night what are you going to say the next night when you bring a different girl back with a different name?

With all this being said, Hotel occupancy is down in panama and Hotels are relaxing policies a little.

Ffmbud
05-09-15, 04:14
So who cares about hotels being chica friendly or not, why not stay in an apartment using Airbnb and come and go as you please with whomever you want?

Mfins
05-09-15, 04:24
And that is the way it happens 95 percent of the time at the nicer hotels. Age19 I think is still a rookie, clueless, or is a budget traveler who does not stay in the finer places, or he would have understood the way things work at the nicer accommodations.Old Parr, I completely agree with you but, Agee19 might be the exception to the rule. He said he stayed at the Waldorff Astoria. Interestingly enough that is probably one of the top 5 luxury hotels in Panama. Along with the Trump etc.

Once you get past the Marriotts, Hiltons, etc and go up to the next level of Luxury those hotels are surprisingly lax when it comes to guest policy. I guess they figure if your paying this much to stay here go ahead and do what you want we are not going to hassle you over something trivial. Also, those hotels do not have many male guests that are bringing back pros. So there really isn't a need to have a policy in place and they are noton Patrol late at night looking for it.

All it takes however is for an incident to happen like a loud argument between a John and a pro over payment. Or a lamp being broken by a drunken guest and his lady of the night, and the hotel will quickly implement a strict guest policy. Thoses hotels do not want any problems or to be associated with that.

Mfins
05-09-15, 04:25
So who cares about hotels being chica friendly or not, why not stay in an apartment using Airbnb and come and go as you please with whomever you want?BINGO! Especially in Panama.

Mfins
05-09-15, 04:28
Does anyone know if El Panama is chica-friendly?

Thanks in advance.It 100% wasnt when I stayed there 2 years ago. I believe they wanted $100 to bring a guest or something. They gave out wristbands.

Was 2 years ago though so I do not know if things changed.

It was govt. Owned then.

Stay in a condo.

Dickhead
05-09-15, 05:20
Certain hotels "want" certain things, and certain cabbies "want" certain prices. I want a Ferrari. One possibly helpful experiment might be to want in one hand, shit in the other, and see which one fills up first.

Lucky Strike
05-09-15, 15:24
It 100% wasnt when I stayed there 2 years ago. I believe they wanted $100 to bring a guest or something. They gave out wristbands.

Was 2 years ago though so I do not know if things changed.

It was govt. Owned then.

Stay in a condo.Thanks Mfins,

Appreciate the info. This is my 1st trip to (actually an intentionally extended to 2 nights layover in) PTY, the El Panama with its pool looks really appealing on the photos. Plus it's within walking distance to several "destinations," just the way I like it.

Do you have a particular chica-friendly condo in mind?

Thanks.

--L. S.

Hobbiest1
05-09-15, 22:34
Certain hotels "want" certain things, and certain cabbies "want" certain prices. I want a Ferrari. One possibly helpful experiment might be to want in one hand, shit in the other, and see which one fills up first.Dude. You seriously are funny. I wish I was still there to buy you a couple drinks. Personally I want a 2005 VW Jetta as my 911 Cab is always in the shoppe!

Cheers!

H1.

Raju1
05-09-15, 23:31
If you want to go to Goldfingers tell the taxi driver to take you to fantastic casino in El Dorado. Go inside (shitty casino with machines only, but they had live music the night I went, the singer was fucking hot) sit around for about 5-10 minutes, then go out, behind the casino is the shopping center with goldfingers, its probably night so you will see a small red neon light and the security guy outside. You save some money on the cab driver getting his cut, I think its like 20 bucks or something. Also when you're finished the taxi guys outside overcharge, so just walk to one of the streets catch a cab there to wherever you're going. Now about my experience, previously it has be great, but this time I picked a girl (number 3 or 6, can't remember, I think 3) and she was beautiful, but when we got to the room she undressed and had a huge bandage on her knee, said she fell and hurt herself, later on she wanted to give me a massage first (massage sucked, always say no here) She proceeds to talk to me about ill give you a good massage give me a good Teet (tip) I'm thinking this is crazy. Whatever, she is lazy performing, doesn't want to do K9 because of her knee, just a stuck up. Usually the girls here perform like porn stars.

Lucky Nuts
05-11-15, 02:38
I was in Panama a couple months ago and found very few chicas working Veneto on Sunday night. I wasn't yet aware of Habanos then so didn't check it out. I'm planning another trip and wondering if there are many chicas available at Habanos on Sunday nights or if they "take if off" so to speak. Just trying to figure out if I should avoid Sunday night in Panama.

Thanks

Mfins
05-11-15, 03:31
Thanks Mfins,

Appreciate the info. This is my 1st trip to (actually an intentionally extended to 2 nights layover in) PTY, the El Panama with its pool looks really appealing on the photos. Plus it's within walking distance to several "destinations," just the way I like it.

Do you have a particular chica-friendly condo in mind?

Thanks.

--L. S.Your welcome, try VRBO. They have short term condo rentals. You rent directly from the owner. The condo you rent is yours to do as you wish during your stay. Bringing girls back won't be an issue at all.

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05-11-15, 21:28
Hi guys,

It'll be my first time in PC and I'm interested in checking out.

The massage parlors. I've heard golden times is a winner, what.

Else do you guys recommend and where can I find them?

I hear there's a great Dominican place called Aviana.

Thanks in advance, looking forward to a great trip.

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Lucky Nuts
05-12-15, 03:54
I'll be in Panama if anyone wants to meet up please PM me.

MarianoRiv
05-13-15, 15:04
Can I get some opinions about the Trump Hotel in Panama City? I went there on a weekday afternoon, last year, just to check it out. Seemed like a very nice place! But all I did was buy a coffee at Juan Valdez, and walk around the lower floors. And I checked out the 66th floor, which I thought was great. I'd be curious to hear more from others with more experience there than I have. Or any opinions about it, really, such as about the condos in the same building, etc, etc.

I wouldn't be asking about it, but something strange happened about a week ago. I was on a travel booking website, and for some reason, the Trump Hotel was showing cheap rates! When I say cheap, I mean $45-65 per night. I haven't seen these cheap rates appear since then, but on that day, I did make a reservation in August, at $59 per night, including taxes.

I'd love to get some opinions about this place. It does seem like a winner -- the poster RacShack wrote here last month, and said he had a great stay, and that there were some chicas on site. That sounds promising to me, since I think that the location is a bit remote. Also, I've read here that the hotel is chica-friendly, which was nice to read.

Thanks in advance for any information or opinions! And please let me know if I can answer anything.

Biff Dangler
05-13-15, 15:06
It's a great place, just the location requires a taxi to go anywhere and you will be paying the higher rates to and from Trump because you are staying at Trump. But yes it is chica friendly and the view / location is wonderful except for the taxi issue.


Can I get some opinions about the Trump Hotel in Panama City? I went there on a weekday afternoon, last year, just to check it out. Seemed like a very nice place! But all I did was buy a coffee at Juan Valdez, and walk around the lower floors. And I checked out the 66th floor, which I thought was great. I'd be curious to hear more from others with more experience there than I have. Or any opinions about it, really, such as about the condos in the same building, etc, etc.

I wouldn't be asking about it, but something strange happened about a week ago. I was on a travel booking website, and for some reason, the Trump Hotel was showing cheap rates! When I say cheap, I mean $45-65 per night. I haven't seen these cheap rates appear since then, but on that day, I did make a reservation in August, at $59 per night, including taxes.

I'd love to get some opinions about this place. It does seem like a winner -- the poster RacShack wrote here last month, and said he had a great stay, and that there were some chicas on site. That sounds promising to me, since I think that the location is a bit remote. Also, I've read here that the hotel is chica-friendly, which was nice to read.

Thanks in advance for any information or opinions! And please let me know if I can answer anything.

Biff Dangler
05-13-15, 15:07
Depends on what you want. Golden Times is a *****house, not a massage parlour although it bills itself as one. Relax massage in El Cangrejo is pretty good.


Hi guys,

It'll be my first time in PC and I'm interested in checking out.

The massage parlors. I've heard golden times is a winner, what.

Else do you guys recommend and where can I find them?

I hear there's a great Dominican place called Aviana.

Thanks in advance, looking forward to a great trip.

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Dickhead
05-13-15, 15:10
you will be paying the higher rates to and from Trump But only if you really, really want to.

MarianoRiv
05-13-15, 15:19
But only if you really, really want to.Haha, yeah thanks Biff and Dickhead! Yeah no doubt that place would be a good "testing ground" for developing "taxi skills"! I think they have the dreaded white taxis there, those ones that like to charge $10 or more. I believe you have to walk a bit to get a normal, yellow taxi from around there.

Biff Dangler
05-13-15, 21:44
Haha, yeah thanks Biff and Dickhead! Yeah no doubt that place would be a good "testing ground" for developing "taxi skills"! I think they have the dreaded white taxis there, those ones that like to charge $10 or more. I believe you have to walk a bit to get a normal, yellow taxi from around there.Yes certainly don't take the ones at the hotel, but even if you walk out on the street the taxi driver is going to see dollar signs.

On a side note the other day when arriving back in PTY I walked upstairs to arrivals and got a cab to the city for $20.

Dickhead
05-13-15, 22:20
Yes certainly don't take the ones at the hotel, but even if you walk out on the street the taxi driver is going to see dollar signs.

On a side note the other day when arriving back in PTY I walked upstairs to arrivals and got a cab to the city for $20.You're learning but you can get it for $15 as someone other than me recently confirmed. Although, he got in quite late at night. I got it for $15 last time I went into town from PTY, maybe two years ago, but the last couple of times I have flown in, it was from Costa Rica so I used Albrook, which is one FUCK of a lot easier, for those who have the opportunity. I believe Copa or maybe Taca just started flying into Albrook from a couple of different places so anyone coming in from elsewhere in LatAm should check that out.

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05-14-15, 02:53
Depends on what you want. Golden Times is a *****house, not a massage parlour although it bills itself as one. Relax massage in El Cangrejo is pretty good.Biff,

Thanks buddy. I'm certainly looking for a good old fashioned *house! I'm looking forward to sampling the local delicacies.

Mfins
05-14-15, 03:18
Can I get some opinions about the Trump Hotel in Panama City? I went there on a weekday afternoon, last year, just to check it out. Seemed like a very nice place! But all I did was buy a coffee at Juan Valdez, and walk around the lower floors. And I checked out the 66th floor, which I thought was great. I'd be curious to hear more from others with more experience there than I have. Or any opinions about it, really, such as about the condos in the same building, etc, etc.

I wouldn't be asking about it, but something strange happened about a week ago. I was on a travel booking website, and for some reason, the Trump Hotel was showing cheap rates! When I say cheap, I mean $45-65 per night. I haven't seen these cheap rates appear since then, but on that day, I did make a reservation in August, at $59 per night, including taxes.

I'd love to get some opinions about this place. It does seem like a winner -- the poster RacShack wrote here last month, and said he had a great stay, and that there were some chicas on site. That sounds promising to me, since I think that the location is a bit remote. Also, I've read here that the hotel is chica-friendly, which was nice to read.

Thanks in advance for any information or opinions! And please let me know if I can answer anything.If you were able to book a room at the trump for $59 including taxes per night by all means take it. The Hotel is very nice. I prefer the hardrock. A little bit more of a younger, hip crowd, more going on and I prefer the rooms but, certainly the trump is very nice and that price is outstanding. Yes just walk to the road and yellow taxis will pull down the cul de sac. It's literally 20 feet past the white more expensive taxis. Make sure to Enjoy the tub in the room with your new found lady for the night!!

Mortega
05-14-15, 05:15
I'll be in Panama if anyone wants to meet up please PM me.Ill be in panama may 14-20 what to join us mike be stayinf at venetto mongoring.

Purelif373
05-14-15, 07:20
Hello,

I will be visiting Panama later this month.

Has anyone had any experience renting an apt using airbnb.com in Panama. I am renting a 2 bedroom for me and my sidekick.

Would we have any problems getting any chicas to this type of apartments?

Thank you.

I plan on reporting back on my trip.

MarianoRiv
05-15-15, 06:05
If you were able to book a room at the trump for $59 including taxes per night by all means take it. The Hotel is very nice. I prefer the hardrock. A little bit more of a younger, hip crowd, more going on and I prefer the rooms but, certainly the trump is very nice and that price is outstanding. Yes just walk to the road and yellow taxis will pull down the cul de sac. It's literally 20 feet past the white more expensive taxis. Make sure to Enjoy the tub in the room with your new found lady for the night!!Hey thanks, I appreciate the info. Yeah, I hadn't really thought about staying at Trump (or Hard Rock) but for some reason, Trump was cheap on Orbitz one day when I was checking prices and dates. I wish I had booked for later this month. Not only is it sooner rather than later, but the rates at the Trump were $45 per night in May. Weird, huh? Maybe it was a computer glitch, haha. I did go for the deal of $59 per night in August -- it is seven nights for $413, including taxes. But no refunds allowed, so I will not be cancelling this trip.

I was interested and surprised to see that last month, RacShack said that there were a few enterprising chicas working at the Trump Hotel. Good for them for branching out! That should save some time and effort, too, but I'll still try to hit all the hotspots.

I look forward to the taxi stuff, too. The airport taxi strategy upstairs sounds great, and I can't wait to try that. I'm also going to try to not get crushed by the yellow cab drivers to / from the Trump. I just know they are going to ask for 5 or 6 bucks to / from La Bocatorena or Habanos or Veneto or Ashe. But I will try to get them down to 3 or 4 bucks instead.

RacShack
05-15-15, 07:37
Venetto was taken over by the government this week, I heard from good inside source, the owners walked away! True stuff!

Purelif373
05-15-15, 15:20
BINGO! Especially in Panama.
Venetto was taken over by the government this week, I heard from good inside source, the owners walked away! True stuff!That is unfortunate, finally I was visiting Panama after so long and was hoping to go to Venetto to sample of of the action.

Are there any other places like Venetto where the Colombians will move to?

Biff Dangler
05-15-15, 16:44
Venetto was taken over by the government this week, I heard from good inside source, the owners walked away! True stuff!Here is the english translation of a news article:

The secretary of the Gaming Control Board (JCJ), Eric Rios, confirmed the "bad financial situation" through the casino Veneto, which caused the administrative intervention of the betting operator since last week.

The company has debts to suppliers and the Social Security Fund. Facing late payment of taxes to the Directorate General of Revenue and owes money to the Gaming Board because like all gambling operators must take a tax that depends on the size of stakes and prizes they pay for each month.

"To safeguard the jobs and the home operator, the decision to intervene was taken to the casino," Rios said. The State appointed Aracely Ploche as administrator of the company in the intervention process.

The objective is to determine the reality of the Veneto and evaluate alternatives to bring the company to its current situation.

If you can not resolve the financial situation, it could consider canceling the concession contract with the state and explore whether another company is interested in acquiring these operations.

The US group Silver Associate & Company acquired the concession of the casino and hotel complex has 302 rooms so paid $ 60 million.

- See more at: http://impresa.prensa.com/economia/deudas-agobian-casino-Veneto_0_4201829842.html#sthash. RplbvAck. Dpuf.

El Patron24
05-15-15, 20:21
I am staying next Thursday at the Veneto and then another night a week later. I will let everyone know if there are any changes for guests since the takeover. I have stayed there several times since 2010 and the conditions have continually deteriorated.

I am also renting an AirBnB for several days in Casco at the end of the month. I will let you know if I have any issues taking girls to this specific apartment. This is a private residence, as AirBnB does have room sharing. I plan on bringing girls out of Boca and taking them to the apartment.

I will be meeting up with Biff Dangler, a Panama resident / business owner and monger expert. Between my days in Panama City we are going to fly down to Barranquilla, Colombia and then bus to Cartagena. Should be a hell of a smashing-P-fest.

Me and Biff went to Medellin over last Thanksgiving. Ill try to break down the differences between mongering in PTY vs Medellin vs Barranquilla vs Cartagena later on.

TellAll
05-15-15, 22:31
I am staying next Thursday at the Veneto and then another night a week later. I will let everyone know if there are any changes for guests since the takeover. I have stayed there several times since 2010 and the conditions have continually deteriorated.

I am also renting an AirBnB for several days in Casco at the end of the month. I will let you know if I have any issues taking girls to this specific apartment. This is a private residence, as AirBnB does have room sharing. I plan on bringing girls out of Boca and taking them to the apartment.

I will be meeting up with Biff Dangler, a Panama resident / business owner and monger expert. Between my days in Panama City we are going to fly down to Barranquilla, Colombia and then bus to Cartagena. Should be a hell of a smashing-P-fest.

Me and Biff went to Medellin over last Thanksgiving. Ill try to break down the differences between mongering in PTY vs Medellin vs Barranquilla vs Cartagena later on.I look forward to your reports and comparisons. Maybe I missed something my last time in Panama because I have no desire to go back.

Lucky Nuts
05-15-15, 23:00
I was at Veneto in February and again this week. It's busier now than in February. Employees are happier because they are getting paid again. The chicas can come and go without paying $25 and wearing braclets. So all is well at the Veneto. In fact I'm on my way back over there right now to pick up a hot Cubana that I met yesterday. We argued about use of a condom for BJ yesterday and after a few texts today she dropped her price to $100 for an hour with condom. I hate condoms but that's too cheap to pass up. She just wouldn't give in on the issue so I'll see how it works for me.

Dickhead
05-16-15, 00:23
Venetto was taken over by the government this week, I heard from good inside source, the owners walked away! True stuff!I'm a CPA and I can smell bankruptcy and two weeks ago when I walked through it, the stench of bankruptcy was definitely hanging in the air. I wonder if mid- to upper-level management was stealing.

TellAll
05-16-15, 01:54
I'm a CPA and I can smell bankruptcy and two weeks ago when I walked through it, the stench of bankruptcy was definitely hanging in the air. I wonder if mid- to upper-level management was stealing.The customer service was so terrible in the Veneto, I'm surprised it lasted as long as it did.

Mfins
05-16-15, 03:54
Hey thanks, I appreciate the info. Yeah, I hadn't really thought about staying at Trump (or Hard Rock) but for some reason, Trump was cheap on Orbitz one day when I was checking prices and dates. I wish I had booked for later this month. Not only is it sooner rather than later, but the rates at the Trump were $45 per night in May. Weird, huh? Maybe it was a computer glitch, haha. I did go for the deal of $59 per night in August -- it is seven nights for $413, including taxes. But no refunds allowed, so I will not be cancelling this trip.

I was interested and surprised to see that last month, RacShack said that there were a few enterprising chicas working at the Trump Hotel. Good for them for branching out! That should save some time and effort, too, but I'll still try to hit all the hotspots.

I look forward to the taxi stuff, too. The airport taxi strategy upstairs sounds great, and I can't wait to try that. I'm also going to try to not get crushed by the yellow cab drivers to / from the Trump. I just know they are going to ask for 5 or 6 bucks to / from La Bocatorena or Habanos or Veneto or Ashe. But I will try to get them down to 3 or 4 bucks instead.I have seen really crazy low rates from time to time and place to place too. I can tell you May and August is slowww time in Panama. So there are plenty of rooms available but, also I think that Orbitz, Expedia etc buy packages themselves or guarantee a certain hotel that they will buy a certain number of rooms per month. They get a cheaper bulk rate and resell the rooms. Most times they make money doing it. Sometimes, rarely if they have a glut of inventory available they will lower the price and blow out the rooms. Figuring something is better than nothing.

Mfins
05-16-15, 04:05
I look forward to your reports and comparisons. Maybe I missed something my last time in Panama because I have no desire to go back.Panama (Habanos, Veneto, Ashe) can be really hit or miss sometimes. Of Course Holiday times its dead but, even night to night it can go from wild and crazy to almost nothing.

I usually go Friday-Sunday. Seems Fridays are very good and then Sat its much slower. Maybe its Date night and the girls already have things lined up or maybe they rest Sat-Sun from working Mon-Fri when the business men are in town and there is more money to be had.

Also, Not sure if this has happened lately but, Police / immigration raids were going on quite frequently. If there was even a rumor in the air that there might be a raid, the girls did not go out and Habanos and Veneto were dead.

I have had some of the best times of my life in Panama and then the next trip been quite bored and disapointed.

Dickhead
05-16-15, 05:01
Panamá City, to me, is not a place I would go to monger. It's a place where, when I'm there, I usually monger because it's not particularly interesting otherwise. I lived in Panamá (the country) twice for about eight months total, but would never live in Panamá City, primarily because I can't take the heat and humidity. Panamá City is just the best place to move between continents.

Having said all that, Panamá as a country has some definite advantages. It is probably the most efficient country in Central America (although that is not saying much, at all). It is one of the two safest countries in Central America (along with Costa Rica). Not having to change money and not having to do conversion math is actually kind of nice. Prices are reasonable; although rents in Panamá City are not cheap, prices in the large grocery stores for food and booze certainly are.

Chica-wise, I don't find panameñas overall to be as attractive as ticas or chavas (guatemaltecas), and the preponderance of artificially inflated colombianas is a definite minus in my book. It is funny to me how some posters say they either have a great time or a lousy time. I mostly have sort of run-of-the-mill, non-memorable experiences in Panamá. I would also say that panameños are the least friendly people in Central America. Maybe that is because historically it is South America, or maybe it is because it is a very young country that has not developed its own personality. Maybe it is the US influence. As you go further north they become more friendly but they still don't approach the level of friendliness of chapines, nicas, or even ticos who are only moderately friendly. México is obviously not Central America but méxicans are more friendly than panameños in my opinion. Basically Panamá ranks just right in the middle of all the countries I've been to in terms of how I like it overall.

Biff Dangler
05-16-15, 19:13
I'm a CPA and I can smell bankruptcy and two weeks ago when I walked through it, the stench of bankruptcy was definitely hanging in the air. I wonder if mid- to upper-level management was stealing.It's Panama. They were stealing.

But that being said you can't go from charging 200 bucks a night to 60 without taking a hit.

Biff Dangler
05-16-15, 19:15
I am staying next Thursday at the Veneto and then another night a week later. I will let everyone know if there are any changes for guests since the takeover. I have stayed there several times since 2010 and the conditions have continually deteriorated.

I am also renting an AirBnB for several days in Casco at the end of the month. I will let you know if I have any issues taking girls to this specific apartment. This is a private residence, as AirBnB does have room sharing. I plan on bringing girls out of Boca and taking them to the apartment.

I will be meeting up with Biff Dangler, a Panama resident / business owner and monger expert. Between my days in Panama City we are going to fly down to Barranquilla, Colombia and then bus to Cartagena. Should be a hell of a smashing-P-fest.

Me and Biff went to Medellin over last Thanksgiving. Ill try to break down the differences between mongering in PTY vs Medellin vs Barranquilla vs Cartagena later on.Amen, Brother.

Magzzz
05-16-15, 23:38
I'm staying at the Veneto, having arrived on Thursday night. It is may sad duty to report that they have instituted a new chica fee. The Veneto is charging $40 ($42.80 after taxes) for every girl that you bring to your room. I was told by a few chicas that this started a few days ago. They are no longer charging the girls the $25 entrance fee. The quantity and quality of chicas has declined substantially. Veneto was once a great place to visit but, sadly, no longer.

Mellowg
05-16-15, 23:53
For those to whom the Cubanas were the cream of the crop, my deepest sympathy. .

The Cubanas have been barred from entering.

Reason stated is that they were only thinking in getting you to close the deal, as fast as possible, therefore stopping you from enjoying the booze on offer from the bar.

Bad business for the owners.

Understanding Habanos is first a bar, not a brothel. No comision to the owners for the business trafic.

Mellow.

TellAll
05-17-15, 01:35
For those to whom the Cubanas were the cream of the crop, my deepest sympathy. .

The Cubanas have been barred from entering.

Reason stated is that they were only thinking in getting you to close the deal, as fast as possible, therefore stopping you from enjoying the booze on offer from the bar.

Bad business for the owners.

Understanding Habanos is first a bar, not a brothel. No comision to the owners for the business trafic.

Mellow.No Cubanas at Habanos, bet the Colombianas had something to do with that. Chica fees at Veneto. What possible reason would anyone have for trying to monger in that shithole Panama City.

Biff Dangler
05-17-15, 03:26
For those to whom the Cubanas were the cream of the crop, my deepest sympathy. .

The Cubanas have been barred from entering.

Reason stated is that they were only thinking in getting you to close the deal, as fast as possible, therefore stopping you from enjoying the booze on offer from the bar.

Bad business for the owners.

Understanding Habanos is first a bar, not a brothel. No comision to the owners for the business trafic.

Mellow.And where did they go? That is the question. They are available somewhere for 40 bucks. I will lead this noble quest. Who amongst you will join me?

Hobbiest1
05-17-15, 16:44
No Cubanas at Habanos, bet the Colombianas had something to do with that. Chica fees at Veneto. What possible reason would anyone have for trying to monger in that shithole Panama City.When I went a few weeks ago there was NO Chica fee at Veneto and the quality of ladies was around 7 (on a 10 scale). Nothing super spectacular but very convenient. With the $40 fee it is now costing you $140 (min.) per girl and I am sorry to say but that would force me to go elsewhere. Also Habanos was chock full of Cubans that were really hot a few weeks back. Oh well. I'm sure I will make it to PTY again but just not near term. Too many other great mongering destinations. Peace! H1.

YippieKayay
05-17-15, 18:23
I'm very interested in seeing how the Veneto ends up. It's pretty much ground zero for sex tourism in Panama City and now that the government has taken over we could see it flourish. The chica fee is unfortunate but if it was lowered to something like 20-25 USD per chica I could see myself being OK with it.

Fix up the rooms. Keep the prices reasonable. Keep room service in. Keep the AC running. Keep the chicas coming in. Do that and I could go back for a visit.

I'm going to assume with the government stepping in they will have a longer view of things and try to recoup their lost tax revenue over a number of years.

El Patron24
05-17-15, 22:42
Biff,

You know I'm down to find the Cubanas. They may be in Bocatoreno or somewhere like that.

The Veneto chica fee is beatable, by being really sneaky. But what a pain in the ass. Glad I only booked two nights there.

Mfins
05-17-15, 22:58
For those to whom the Cubanas were the cream of the crop, my deepest sympathy. .

The Cubanas have been barred from entering.

Reason stated is that they were only thinking in getting you to close the deal, as fast as possible, therefore stopping you from enjoying the booze on offer from the bar.

Bad business for the owners.

Understanding Habanos is first a bar, not a brothel. No comision to the owners for the business trafic.

Mellow.Interesting they can stereotype and keep out a whole group of people. As another poster said I am certain the colombianas had something to do with this. Funny that the bar doesn't want the cubans there because they want to leave with the clients so quickly.

ThunderCloud
05-18-15, 14:40
Your welcome, try VRBO. They have short term condo rentals. You rent directly from the owner. The condo you rent is yours to do as you wish during your stay. Bringing girls back won't be an issue at all.Do you know if any of their condos are in locations where you don't need a rental car?

ThunderCloud
05-18-15, 15:58
I know that there are 2 and 3 star hotels in Panama City that are Chica Friendly. I really would rather stay at a 4 or 5 star place. Are any of the below listed hotels Chica friendly? Even the one's that charge a fee is fine as long as they allow a female to join you.

San Francisco Apartments.

Trump.

Hilton.

Courtyard.

Best Western Plus.

Continental.

Holiday Inn Express.

Riu Plaza.

Clarion.

Or any other 4 or 5 star hotels that allow a female to join you.

MarianoRiv
05-18-15, 18:42
That's pretty wild about the Cubanas at Habano's, but do they enforce the ban? For example, do the gals have their passports checked at the door? Or do the Colombianas snitch to the manager if they see Cubanas on the premises? Interesting stuff! Pretty funny, this kind of stuff. I mean, can you imagine telling a non-mongering friend or family member about this stuff? It would be pretty amusing or fascinating to an "outsider". Saying something to them like, "OK, Sarah and Steve, now, you see, there are lots of Colombian and Cuban hookers in Panama City nowadays, and now there is this little "turf war" between them at this one bar called Habano's. And maybe it will also happen over at this very interesting place called Veneto Casino. " Haha, you can't make this stuff up!

I suppose some Cubanas will come to the discoteca, Ashe, on Calle Uruguay, but that's only on weekends. Maybe they will be found at La Mayor or La Bocatorena? Hmmmm.

TellAll
05-18-15, 22:06
That's pretty wild about the Cubanas at Habano's, but do they enforce the ban? For example, do the gals have their passports checked at the door? Or do the Colombianas snitch to the manager if they see Cubanas on the premises? Interesting stuff! Pretty funny, this kind of stuff. I mean, can you imagine telling a non-mongering friend or family member about this stuff? It would be pretty amusing or fascinating to an "outsider". Saying something to them like, "OK, Sarah and Steve, now, you see, there are lots of Colombian and Cuban hookers in Panama City nowadays, and now there is this little "turf war" between them at this one bar called Habano's. And maybe it will also happen over at this very interesting place called Veneto Casino. " Haha, you can't make this stuff up!

I suppose some Cubanas will come to the discoteca, Ashe, on Calle Uruguay, but that's only on weekends. Maybe they will be found at La Mayor or La Bocatorena? Hmmmm.Oh by the way Sarah and Steve, I know all this because I spend all my free time traveling the world fucking Prostitutes.

Yes I'm sure they will be amused.