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Dickhead
05-18-15, 22:11
Oh by the way Sarah and Steve, I know all this because I spend all my free time traveling the world fucking Prostitutes. Yes I'm sure they will be amused.If they can't take a joke, fuck 'em. Everybody has to have a hobby.

MarianoRiv
05-18-15, 23:05
If they can't take a joke, fuck 'em. Everybody has to have a hobby.Yeah, in my case, a guy like a friend, Steve, would be quite amused and approving, and would want to know all about it. (he has mongered in Thailand, which I haven't.) On the other hand, his wife, Sarah would be unamused and disapproving, so she would not be part of that conversation. Oh well!

TellAll
05-19-15, 00:19
If they can't take a joke, fuck 'em. Everybody has to have a hobby.Amen and what better hobby then Hot women. Some of my friends know what I do but are afraid to come along so I don't bother to ask them anymore.
Speaking of which, headed back to Thailand tomorrow.

Lucky Nuts
05-19-15, 02:48
I know that there are 2 and 3 star hotels in Panama City that are Chica Friendly. I really would rather stay at a 4 or 5 star place. Are any of the below listed hotels Chica friendly? Even the one's that charge a fee is fine as long as they allow a female to join you.

San Francisco Apartments.

Trump.

Hilton.

Courtyard.

Best Western Plus.

Continental.

Holiday Inn Express.

Riu Plaza.

Clarion.

Or any other 4 or 5 star hotels that allow a female to join you.I would recommend the Hyatt Place. Very nice hotel, good location, chica fee is $15.

Mfins
05-19-15, 03:23
That's pretty wild about the Cubanas at Habano's, but do they enforce the ban? For example, do the gals have their passports checked at the door? Or do the Colombianas snitch to the manager if they see Cubanas on the premises? Interesting stuff! Pretty funny, this kind of stuff. I mean, can you imagine telling a non-mongering friend or family member about this stuff? It would be pretty amusing or fascinating to an "outsider". Saying something to them like, "OK, Sarah and Steve, now, you see, there are lots of Colombian and Cuban hookers in Panama City nowadays, and now there is this little "turf war" between them at this one bar called Habano's. And maybe it will also happen over at this very interesting place called Veneto Casino. " Haha, you can't make this stuff up!

I suppose some Cubanas will come to the discoteca, Ashe, on Calle Uruguay, but that's only on weekends. Maybe they will be found at La Mayor or La Bocatorena? Hmmmm.I agree with you, its really fascinating if you think about it.

The only downfall to this hobby is the frequency with which I leave and enter the USA And the million questions / interogaton I receive from USA Immigration upon returning. They just don't seem to understand / approve of the hobby and don't understand why I leave and comeback 3 days later.

Mfins
05-19-15, 03:28
I know that there are 2 and 3 star hotels in Panama City that are Chica Friendly. I really would rather stay at a 4 or 5 star place. Are any of the below listed hotels Chica friendly? Even the one's that charge a fee is fine as long as they allow a female to join you.

San Francisco Apartments.

Trump.

Hilton.

Courtyard.

Best Western Plus.

Continental.

Holiday Inn Express.

Riu Plaza.

Clarion.

Or any other 4 or 5 star hotels that allow a female to join you.The trump on the list you provided is the only one which has reported to be chica friendly. I Personally know the Best Western, Clarion, Contiental, Holiday Inn are Not chica friendly. Not sure on the others. However again its really going to depend on current Management policy, what time you come back to the hotel, who is working the front desk or security and what your lady friend looks like. Too many variables. If you have a few bucks rent a nice Condo or penthouse!

Mfins
05-19-15, 03:30
Do you know if any of their condos are in locations where you don't need a rental car?Almost all of the condos advertised on VRBO (Vacation rentals by owner) are located in the heart of the city or close by. No need to rent a car. Cabs are everywhere and with reasonable traffic you are no more than 10 minutes away from anywhere you really want to go. (except the airport or out of town).

Mr Nice1
05-23-15, 07:00
Heading to Panama in July first week, can someone confirm if Veneto is charging Chica fees and how much? What are other best options?

Sammi123
05-24-15, 01:20
I'll be staying at the TRYP. Not sure if its girl friendly or not. In reading through the forum, it seems the best options are to find a girl (at the neighboring Veneto), negotiate a price, and then bring them back to my room. Is that correct? Is that the only option in Panama City. I having trouble figuring out the lay of the land. Appreciate the help.

Mfins
05-24-15, 22:04
I'll be staying at the TRYP. Not sure if its girl friendly or not. In reading through the forum, it seems the best options are to find a girl (at the neighboring Veneto), negotiate a price, and then bring them back to my room. Is that correct? Is that the only option in Panama City. I having trouble figuring out the lay of the land. Appreciate the help.Yes that and Habanos. Late night After 1 am also Ashe. In my opinion those are your best bets. There are some Massage places also strip clubs (la Palace and others) where you can get take out. Panama is a very user friendly and easy mongering destination. You won't have any issues finding what your looking for.

Biff Dangler
05-25-15, 00:37
El Patron 24 and I went out Thursday night. We started out at BocaTorena where El Patron smashed a tight little thing although I did not. Later we went to Habanos where it was one of the best nights I have ever seen in my life.

It starts getting hazy because we were totally trashed, but at Veneto we picked up a black chick that spoke english and tag-teamed her for multiple hours for $120.

When we got into the elevator the security guy stepped in with a "wtf?" sort of attitude and again I don't really recall but we told him to fuck off and eventually he relented.

ThunderCloud
05-25-15, 05:53
The trump on the list you provided is the only one which has reported to be chica friendly. I Personally know the Best Western, Clarion, Contiental, Holiday Inn are Not chica friendly. Not sure on the others. However again its really going to depend on current Management policy, what time you come back to the hotel, who is working the front desk or security and what your lady friend looks like. Too many variables. If you have a few bucks rent a nice Condo or penthouse!Appreciate the info. I'll look into condos and apartments. Hopefully the owners of these places are in fact girl friendly.

Sammi123
05-25-15, 13:00
Yes that and Habanos. Late night After 1 am also Ashe. In my opinion those are your best bets. There are some Massage places also strip clubs (la Palace and others) where you can get take out. Panama is a very user friendly and easy mongering destination. You won't have any issues finding what your looking for.Thanks for that. Though it looks like TRYP is very girl-unfriendly with a $150 extra charge to take the girl to your room? That seems ridiculous. I might be out of luck. I guess there are no "incall" brothel style places in Panama?

RahulUk
05-25-15, 14:20
12 international guys heading to PTY. Got a nice mansion and pool within the city. Any top advise for bringing entertainment home? Where to look for some company to hang by the pool & potentially join on a day trip to the islands.

Thanks for your help.

Biff Dangler
05-25-15, 17:24
12 international guys heading to PTY. Got a nice mansion and pool within the city. Any top advise for bringing entertainment home? Where to look for some company to hang by the pool & potentially join on a day trip to the islands.

Thanks for your help.Just pick up chicks at Habanos and Veneto. Pound the crap out of them and get their numbers. They would all much prefer to come back the next day for less price than have to go back out and hope to get a client.

Biff Dangler
05-25-15, 17:25
Appreciate the info. I'll look into condos and apartments. Hopefully the owners of these places are in fact girl friendly.They won't even know.

Magzzz
05-27-15, 12:09
Heading to Panama in July first week, can someone confirm if Veneto is charging Chica fees and how much? What are other best options?I was there a couple of weeks ago and the chica fee was $40 per chica. But I think that the situation is fluid and it may be different in July. Now that the Gvt has taken over, the whole Veneto experience may be different going forward. It certainly isn't like it.

Was a few years ago. You'll still have a good time tho don't worry about that.

Brother P
05-28-15, 16:06
That's pretty wild about the Cubanas at Habano's, but do they enforce the ban? For example, do the gals have their passports checked at the door? Or do the Colombianas snitch to the manager if they see Cubanas on the premises? Interesting stuff! Pretty funny, this kind of stuff. I mean, can you imagine telling a non-mongering friend or family member about this stuff? It would be pretty amusing or fascinating to an "outsider". Saying something to them like, "OK, Sarah and Steve, now, you see, there are lots of Colombian and Cuban hookers in Panama City nowadays, and now there is this little "turf war" between them at this one bar called Habano's. And maybe it will also happen over at this very interesting place called Veneto Casino. " Haha, you can't make this stuff up!

I suppose some Cubanas will come to the discoteca, Ashe, on Calle Uruguay, but that's only on weekends. Maybe they will be found at La Mayor or La Bocatorena? Hmmmm.I'm looking for more info about the Cubanas! It's been a few yrs since I was in PTY, it's was mostly colombianas then. Do the cubanas go for cheaper? Since the "turf war" have they found their own area? Might do a long weekend in August.

Purelif373
05-29-15, 00:40
I'm looking for more info about the Cubanas! It's been a few yrs since I was in PTY, it's was mostly colombianas then. Do the cubanas go for cheaper? Since the "turf war" have they found their own area? Might do a long weekend in August.In addition to Colombians, many Venezuelan here:

http://panama2.wanuncios.com/eroticos-profesionales-195.html

Just have to weed out the Trans ads.

Margaya
05-29-15, 14:06
Can someone please suggest some alternatives to Veneto as they seem to be charging $40 joiner fee?

Thanks

Gianni Versace
05-29-15, 23:07
I'm looking for more info about the Cubanas! It's been a few yrs since I was in PTY, it's was mostly colombianas then. Do the cubanas go for cheaper? Since the "turf war" have they found their own area? Might do a long weekend in August.I would also love some information about the cubanos? I will be in PTY next week. Its been a few years. Looking forward to it.

Biff Dangler
05-30-15, 16:52
I would also love some information about the cubanos? I will be in PTY next week. Its been a few years. Looking forward to it.The Cubans are all at Veneto now. Last night was PACKED with hot Cubans. We've been partying our balls off across Panama and Colombia the last week and have a lot of stories to write later when we sober up, but yeah, last night Veneto was packed with hot Cubans who confirmed they were kicked out of Habanos.

They were opening with an offer of $100 so you can talk them down but it's $40 to bring them to room. Last week we just walked into the elevator with a chick we later double teamed and the security guy came in and we told him to fuck off (although we were fucked up and don't really remember) and he gave up and left us alone.

BbTraktor
05-30-15, 22:12
Hi,

I am new here. I will be in PTY from 1 stlate until 4th. Is there any one same dates? I am first time there.

Greets

Lucky Nuts
05-31-15, 03:33
I recently returned from a quick five night trip to Panama. I did get a $15 ride from airport to city but maybe just by luck because the taxi driver was picking up his novia from her work there. Since I was traveling alone and very light I decided to change hotels every day to avoid chica fees and also just to experience more hotels and their policies. Chica fees can definitely be eliminated at most hotels by making the original reservation for two adults. I told them all I would register the second adult later that night. Only the Blue Bay gave me a hard time. They wanted the chica's name when I registered but I told them I didn't have her name yet because my friend was bring me a date. After a lot a back and forth one clerk shrugged his shoulders and said "muy politico" and finally relented. The Coral Suites hotel was easiest to deal with on this issue telling me the first chica is free if I register for two adults. Habanos was not as good as a couple months ago without the Cubanas. Honestly I don't understand how 90 percent of the chicas hanging out there make any money in this line of work. The lookers were few and far between IMO. But I found a nice Cubana named Lucia at Veneto. She asked me to take her out for dinner after our fun together. I had one very bad experience with a petite girl with bolt ONS and a hot little ass from Cali, Colombia. Beware if you run into her. Sorry I don't recall her name.

Mfins
06-01-15, 03:01
I recently returned from a quick five night trip to Panama. I did get a $15 ride from airport to city but maybe just by luck because the taxi driver was picking up his novia from her work there. Since I was traveling alone and very light I decided to change hotels every day to avoid chica fees and also just to experience more hotels and their policies. Chica fees can definitely be eliminated at most hotels by making the original reservation for two adults. I told them all I would register the second adult later that night. Only the Blue Bay gave me a hard time. They wanted the chica's name when I registered but I told them I didn't have her name yet because my friend was bring me a date. After a lot a back and forth one clerk shrugged his shoulders and said "muy politico" and finally relented. The Coral Suites hotel was easiest to deal with on this issue telling me the first chica is free if I register for two adults. Habanos was not as good as a couple months ago without the Cubanas. Honestly I don't understand how 90 percent of the chicas hanging out there make any money in this line of work. The lookers were few and far between imo. But I found a nice Cubana named Lucia at Veneto. She asked me to take her out for dinner after our fun together. I had one very bad experience with a petite girl with bolt ONS and a hot little ass from Cali, Colombia. Beware if you run into her. Sorry I don't recall her name.Good Report, that is kind of how Panama runs. One night or week its great with a bunch of 8's and 9's and another night or week the hotties arefew and far between.

Most of the 90% you are referring to just stand there all night long on most nights. I have had conversations with a few of the unattractive onesand they claim they get about 1 or 2 customers a week but, it is still better money than making min. Wage at some job. The hot ones are getting about 8-10 clients on average per week.

Gianni Versace
06-01-15, 05:34
Biff.

What is the best price for the cubanos? I am more interested in them. Can you suggest anything else?

Thanks in adance?


The Cubans are all at Veneto now. Last night was PACKED with hot Cubans. We've been partying our balls off across Panama and Colombia the last week and have a lot of stories to write later when we sober up, but yeah, last night Veneto was packed with hot Cubans who confirmed they were kicked out of Habanos.

They were opening with an offer of $100 so you can talk them down but it's $40 to bring them to room. Last week we just walked into the elevator with a chick we later double teamed and the security guy came in and we told him to fuck off (although we were fucked up and don't really remember) and he gave up and left us alone.

Brother P
06-01-15, 07:26
The Coral Suites hotel was easiest to deal with on this issue telling me the first chica is free if I register for two adults.

The Coral Suites said the first chica was free. How much for subsequent chicas? It looks like a good hotel. How far from the Veneto?

Lucky Nuts
06-01-15, 14:19
The Coral Suites hotel was easiest to deal with on this issue telling me the first chica is free if I register for two adults.

The Coral Suites said the first chica was free. How much for subsequent chicas? It looks like a good hotel. How far from the Veneto?I didn't have a second chica there but I did ask your question. The answer I think was $25, maybe $22 at the least. Although an older property Coral Suites is a nice clean place. It has a full kitchen if that has value to anyone. It's about 3 blocks from Veneto.

El Patron24
06-01-15, 18:45
Day 1.

I made my return to Panama on a Thursday afternoon. My flight was delayed so I had hours of drinking already under my belt. Once I arrived I went upstairs at the airport and was able to snag a taxi dropping someone off at departures and told him $20 for Veneto. He agreed.

I met Biff Dangler at the rooftop bar around 6 pm. There were already a few chicas meandering about. After eating at El Greco across the street we headed to La Mayor, which is at the entrance to Casco Viejo.

Beers at La Mayor were around $2, small bottles of Seco were $7 I believe. Every few songs a chica would dance on the stripper stage. Some would dance fully nude. There were maybe 20 chicas in the whole place. All were OK, but no dime pieces.

After several drinks we headed next door to La Bocatorena. Here local beers are now $1. 50 (they raised the price a quarter.) There was over 80 chicas in the place. They were everywhere. I decided on a Venezuelan girl. She was maybe a 6 or a 7. I paid her the $15 and off we went to the fuck shack in the back.

After 15 minutes I still had not gotten off, so of course the lady was beating on the door. I went ahead and gave her another $15 and took her to pound town until I got my rocks off.

After leaving Boca we headed to Habanos to meet another friend. This place was crawling with chicas as well. As the girls in Boca usually range from 2-7, the chicas at Habanos were more on the 5-9 scale. Most of the girls initially were asking $200. A lot can be talked down to $100.

By the time we hit Veneto we had been drinking our assess off and were pretty hammered. We talked with several girls in Spanish and then all of a sudden a chica who spoke English approached us. We were low balling every chica to see how low we could get them. We offered this one $120 total for a tag-team pounding.

This chica was 19 and grew up in the US. She said she was half Dominican and half Panamanian and a university student. Very nice ass, nice small see tits, and a really pretty face. She claims to have just started tricking and was just trying to make some extra cash. She also claimed it was her first time at the Veneto.

All three of us stumbled into the elevator and as it was shutting the security guard tried to hold the door open. He was attempting to get us to go to the desk downstairs to pay the $42.10 chica fee. We basically told him to fuck off and he ended up giving up. If we wouldn't have already been in the elevator he would not have let us in. We got lucky by catching him talking to someone else.

After getting our chica to the room we started going at it. Biff was hitting her doggy style while she deep throat my cock. We did the customary high five and continued to bang the hell out of her for close to two hours. We both took a number of photos and she didn't seem to care at all. She stayed the night for no extra cost and we gave her $60 each before she left.

All in all it was one of our best experiences with a working girl, possibly the best ever with all conditions considered.

Biff Dangler
06-02-15, 14:25
Biff.

What is the best price for the cubanos? I am more interested in them. Can you suggest anything else?

Thanks in adance?Hard to say. The hottest one there opened with $100, whereas the Colombians open their offers at $150 or more. As a general rule the Cubans are willing to be much cheaper. We even had a pissed off colombian say "what, do you think I am Cuban?" when we tried to low-ball her.

My advice on the Cubans is to break into the crowd. If you have to do that at Veneto one night that is fine but then you want to get numbers and bang them during the day. They will all do $50 bucks daytime. Also, I haven't been on much lately but I would try vanuncio to get some of their numbers. Good luck.

Gianni Versace
06-02-15, 22:25
Hard to say. The hottest one there opened with $100, whereas the Colombians open their offers at $150 or more. As a general rule the Cubans are willing to be much cheaper. We even had a pissed off colombian say "what, do you think I am Cuban?" when we tried to low-ball her.

My advice on the Cubans is to break into the crowd. If you have to do that at Veneto one night that is fine but then you want to get numbers and bang them during the day. They will all do $50 bucks daytime. Also, I haven't been on much lately but I would try vanuncio to get some of their numbers. Good luck.Biff thanks for the info. Can you tell me what Vanucio is and when you get there numbers are you giving them your US Number or do you go to the convenient store and pick up a panamaian sim card??

El Patron24
06-02-15, 22:53
Biff thanks for the info. Can you tell me what Vanucio is and when you get there numbers are you giving them your US Number or do you go to the convenient store and pick up a panamaian sim card??Download the app called WhatsApp onto your phone. 99% of freelance working girls in Panama and Colombia have it. Once you get the chicas number, save it into your phone. The phone number will link with the app and you will be able to see a profile pic of then. You can then send them a message and they will get your number and ideally a photo too.

Make sure to add +507 if it is not on the number. That is the country code and they typically will not put that. Sometimes you may see a +57 and that is correct, it is just a Colombia number.

Don't worry, the app is free and it is free to message anyone in the world on it.

I also think Biff meant the Anuncios website. Google Anuncios en Panamá and look for the chica personal type ads called Chica busco Chico. Be careful for trannys.

Lucky Nuts
06-03-15, 01:49
Biff thanks for the info. Can you tell me what Vanucio is and when you get there numbers are you giving them your US Number or do you go to the convenient store and pick up a panamaian sim card??I met Cubanas without WhatsApp so I would recommend getting a Panama SIM card. It's cheap and easy. Straight down the main road in front of Veneto you will see some sidewalk vendors. In one area behind the vendors you will see a couple or few cell phone stores side by side. This area is across from the Don Lee (I think that's the name) Chinese Restaurant. It's pretty easy to find English spoken in these cell phone stores. I paid $9 for the SIM and one week of voice, texts, and data.

BigTony2013
06-03-15, 03:24
Going to Veneto in June, how's the condition of hotel? AC? And girls?

El Patron24
06-03-15, 19:58
Going to Veneto in June, how's the condition of hotel? AC? And girls?I was there Fri / Sat / Sun. AC is actually working great and I saw no floors flooding or anything. The Wi-Fi seems to have improved as well.

The hotel conditions other than that are about the same. The pool was open too.

The girls are good. The usual Colombians, with a lot of Cubans too. There was a few Dominicans and Jamaican girls working too. I smashed a hot and busty Jamaican girl the other night from there.

The $42.10 chica fee is in full effect. You will have to work really hard to sneak a girl in past that. I hit it off with the Jamaican girl and I told her I refused to pay the chica fee. She actually paid the fee and then I gave her $100. I was shocked.

El Patron24
06-03-15, 20:07
I met Cubanas without WhatsApp so I would recommend getting a Panama SIM card. It's cheap and easy. Straight down the main road in front of Veneto you will see some sidewalk vendors. In one area behind the vendors you will see a couple or few cell phone stores side by side. This area is across from the Don Lee (I think that's the name) Chinese Restaurant. It's pretty easy to find English spoken in these cell phone stores. I paid $9 for the SIM and one week of voice, texts, and data.Most working girls will prefer WhatsApp over texts because WhatsApp is free and the texts cost them. They almost always will ask you right away, if you exchange numbers in person, if you are using WhatsApp.

Plus you can keep in contact with them if you decide to after you get home and not have to recharge a sim card, sync numbers, ect.

Margaya
06-03-15, 22:30
Can someone please suggest some alternatives to Veneto as they seem to be charging $40 joiner fee?

ThanksWell guys! Any alternatives?

I will be on my maiden visit and prefer something like Veneto but their chica fee is way too much.

Sammi123
06-04-15, 04:38
Well I knew I was staying at the TRYP Wyndham. But didn't realize there were two! I am stuck here at the Albrook Mall location, and it seems to be in the middle of nowhere. Looks like it is no problem to bring a girl up, but not sure where to go from here.

Any suggestions? Appreciate the help.

Lucky Nuts
06-04-15, 13:57
Well I knew I was staying at the TRYP Wyndham. But didn't realize there were two! I am stuck here at the Albrook Mall location, and it seems to be in the middle of nowhere. Looks like it is no problem to bring a girl up, but not sure where to go from here.

Any suggestions? Appreciate the help.If possible your best option is to check out and move to a different hotel in the Veneto neighborhood. The other TRYP is very close so maybe you can talk with the front desk folks to get relocated. If you cannot relocated then you should take a taxi to Habanos / Veneto and incurr taxi charges for yourself and the chica.

Purelif373
06-04-15, 16:41
Well I knew I was staying at the TRYP Wyndham. But didn't realize there were two! I am stuck here at the Albrook Mall location, and it seems to be in the middle of nowhere. Looks like it is no problem to bring a girl up, but not sure where to go from here.

Any suggestions? Appreciate the help.I think in most hotels, after the first night, you can check out and not be charged for the remainder of the reservation. Then you can move to the right area.

Check with your hotel first.

Dave1027
06-05-15, 00:45
I will be traveling to Panama City, Panama in few months. I would like to know which hotels don't have chica fees. I have stayed.

Before at the Veneto and now I have been reading on here that they have chica fee. Can anyone give me some information?

Thanks,

Dave

Lucky Nuts
06-05-15, 13:48
I will be traveling to Panama City, Panama in few months. I would like to know which hotels don't have chica fees. I have stayed.

Before at the Veneto and now I have been reading on here that they have chica fee. Can anyone give me some information?

Thanks,

DaveThere are many recent posts on the topic of hotel chica fees. Use the search feature and search for "hotels" or "chica fees".

Member #4476
06-05-15, 14:45
Go back about 11 pages and you will see a good report by Gaunt Man about several hotels. Of course conditions change constantly so if anyone has updated info, please post.

TripAdvisor15
06-09-15, 18:29
Guys,

I have a question. Having read the latest with fees at the regular spots I looked on Airbnb and got one from a person who has a suite at Hard Rock. Since I will have both keys. Do you think I will avoid having to pay the chica fees and the regular hassle with this type of arrangement?

Looking for an upscale, luxurious place close by in the City. Can you all make any other similar recommendations?

Purelif373
06-10-15, 10:02
Guys,

I have a question. Having read the latest with fees at the regular spots I looked on Airbnb and got one from a person who has a suite at Hard Rock. Since I will have both keys. Do you think I will avoid having to pay the chica fees and the regular hassle with this type of arrangement?

Looking for an upscale, luxurious place close by in the City. Can you all make any other similar recommendations?You could ask the owner of the property through AirBnB if guest are allowed and ask them about their policy.

Mfins
06-11-15, 04:57
Guys,

I have a question. Having read the latest with fees at the regular spots I looked on Airbnb and got one from a person who has a suite at Hard Rock. Since I will have both keys. Do you think I will avoid having to pay the chica fees and the regular hassle with this type of arrangement?

Looking for an upscale, luxurious place close by in the City. Can you all make any other similar recommendations?I'm a little confused. Someone has a Suite at the Hard Rock Hotel and is renting out space in it on Airbnb?- Can they do that?

Or does the Hardrock also have condos. Similar to the Four Seasons which sells Condos on the top floors and Rents Hotel rooms on the lower floors?

In any case, if its a condo than certainly you can bring a guest. Its your place. . If its a Hotel room or part of the Hotel than the Hard Rocks policy is no guests. There are at least two big security dudes at the entrance at all times. However, some have reported being able to sneak them in or something but, in general the Hard Rock is not chica friendly.

Mrkuyamandla
06-11-15, 19:48
I don't see anyone here writing about it recently. Is it still open? And if it is, does it still open at 6 pm?

Thanks

BigTony2013
06-12-15, 22:39
Any good local classifieds websites in th city? Fee's? How are the girls?

Viajero11
06-13-15, 16:44
I was in Panama for work a few months back, and, with only a little free time available, stayed one night at the Veneto as it's so convenient and since I've had only good luck there. There were a fair number of beautiful girls in the casino. I was very tempted by two Cubanas offering a three-way. Both were spinners, and one was a blond that looked a lot like the porn star Mae Olsen. After shopping around a bit more, I went with Tatiana, a busty, long haired Colombiana. Glad I did. She was sweet, fun, sexy as hell and great in the sack. Gorgeous body, cute, face, and spectacular long dark hair (a huge plus for me). Though she was firm on CBJ only, she did a superb job. Great stuff for $130.

The next morning I hooked up with a girl I've known there for a few years, Milli. As sweet and hot as ever and one of the few girls I've been with that has a real and powerful orgasm. Except for DFK, it's pretty much GFE with her.

An awesome repeat with Tatiana on my last night was the perfect end to a long ten days of work. While on the pricey side, if you speak some Spanish and can afford it, there are great times to be had in Panama.

Paladin Sixgun
06-15-15, 22:13
The Veneto in my opinion is not a good place to stay. It smells of mold as soon as you walk in the door and I understand the rooms are worse. It apparently is in bankruptcy and is poorly maintained. I made an unsecured reservation at the Coral Suites, which is on Calle the about 50 yards from the Veneto. Arrived at 8 PM. The lobby had a high concentration of air freshener and there was no one there to show me a room for inspection. I waited fifteen minutes then walked next door to the Wyndham Garden and stayed there for the night. I paid $94 for the night and was told the Chica fee is $22. The Garden is not a bad hotel, lacking in finish in some areas, but the room was clean and nice. When I tried to shower, no agua caliente, called the desk and the girl said she would take care of it. They fixed it and a bell boy checked with me to make sure. The next morning the breakfast was continental, no eggs, some cold cuts and fruit and bread. $94 was too much for the quality of the hotel. So, after 'breakfast' I went 150 ft down the street to the Toscano Inn Hotel. I got a rate of $77 tax included. The Toscano is rated as a three star hotel but it seems more like a four star to me. Top to bottom it is well finished, clean, and rich feeling. The rooms have refrigerators, excellent showers, good air conditioners, and a safe, and are very nicely finished. The breakfast is excellent with fruit, eggs, a meat dish, pancakes or other bread like thing, juice and good coffee. The restaurant is open the rest of the day till 10:30 P with good and reasonably priced food, beer and wine. They have a Chica fee of $25. They have a doorman inside and guard outside the front door, and they consider it their job to open the door for you. I believe June is a slow month and the rate is probably normally higher than what I am paying.

The drug store on the street in front of the Veneto wants $20 per Viagra 100 MG. I always get 100 MG and break it in half, it's a better deal. Anyway $20 is too much and I found Viagra at the Rey, a grocery store and pharmacy around the corner on Avenida Central Espana for $49 for four (they are on special), and it is the original Pfizer brand. That is about $12 dollars each, which is $6 dollars per dose if you use half a tablet, much better than in the US, and it is Pfizer. Don't know if that price can be beat. I bought $150 dollars worth.

Since this is my first post, I'll tell of my first 'P4P'. It was in July 1961 in a little town with a strip of bars outside a military base in Kansas. The girls were walking up and down the street and they had small rooms upstairs in one of the buildings. I paid the lady $7. We engaged in small talk on the way up the stairs, she was a genteel black girl who was comfortable with her profession and ten years older than me. When we got into the room she pulled up her dress (she wasn't wearing panties) and laid down on the bed on her back with her pussy on full display. I was still trying to get my clothes off but went from limp to full bone in about half a second. I laid down on top of her and she helped me stick it in. It was in, and out, and in again, and that was it, the shortest piece of ass of my life, and maybe a world record. She said 'you must have wanted it bad', I said I guess so. Of course I would have liked it to last longer, but it was the first time I had sex, and it was an experience I have never forgotten. She did her job, was pleasant, happy to be there, and it wasn't her fault I came on two strokes. To this day I have a mental image of that lady's pussy, and she has no idea how many of my orgasms she is responsible for. If she is alive today she would be in her eighties, and if I could find her I would fuck her again, and pay her more than $7.

My most recent P4P was a Colombiana from the Veneto named Adriana. You won't see any girls in there until at least 4:30 or 5 PM. I had seen this girl on the sidewalk outside and she is breathtakingly beautiful, didn't look like a working girl, so I was surprised when I saw her inside in the bar later. She was one of only two in the bar at that time as it was early yet. The darkness of the bar really didn't do her justice. Anyway she asked for $150, and at that point all my blood was in my dick and I was in no mood to bargain. We went back to the Toscano. She looked as good naked as she did with clothes on. However, this wasn't one of those great experiences. Of course, every girl would rather finish you off on the blow job because it saves wear and tear on the pussy, but most will politely stop when it is time and move on to the next or main event. I guess it has been a while since I've run into an insistent one, and she caught me off guard. So it was all over on the blow job, and since it takes a while nowadays for me to reload for another go, there was no fucking. It's not all bad, she is beautiful, and I got a blow job, but I wouldn't see her again. She is about 5'6" long light brown hair, dark brown eyes, light complected, nice figure, the cups. Classy looking, doesn't look like a working girl. Name is Adriana. She hates her profession and isn't comfortable being touched. The majority of my encounters with working girls have been good ones, occasionally great, but every once in a while you get one like Adriana.

I'm looking for a Cubana tonight.

Paladin Sixgun
06-16-15, 05:20
Well, I found my Cubana at the Veneto. Went there at a little after 7 P and found about eight ladies. By 8:30 P there were closer to twenty, mostly pretty nice looking, 7's to 9's, I think mostly Colombians. Anna walked by and we had a drink and then came back to my hotel, and she slow-fucked me until I wanted to take her home with me. Anna is Cuban, pretty, blond, not a hundred pounds, and nice. She was wearing the highest high heel shoes I believe I have seen, that got her up to about 5'2". Interestingly she speaks pretty good English that she learned at the University in Cuba. So, if you see a cute little blond Cubana hanging out at the Veneto, take her home (or just back to your hotel) with you, you'll like her.

Viajero11
06-17-15, 03:26
Paladin. Just curious. Did your blond Cubana look a bit like the pornstar Mae Olsen with big brown eyes? I met a petite cute blond Cuban spinner at the Veneto a few months ago and, as I mentioned in the post below yours, was very tempted. While I ended up going with a Colombiana who I really loved and have seen several times since, the image of that little Cubana's face and body has stayed in my head.

Paladin Sixgun
06-17-15, 14:36
Paladin. Just curious. Did your blond Cubana look a bit like the pornstar Mae Olsen with big brown eyes? I met a petite cute blond Cuban spinner at the Veneto a few months ago and, as I mentioned in the post below yours, was very tempted. While I ended up going with a Colombiana who I really loved and have seen several times since, the image of that little Cubana's face and body has stayed in my head.Viajero,

Little Anna has brown eyes and is for sure a spinner, but I'm afraid I'm not familiar with Mae Olsen so I can't make a comparison. I wouldn't call her beautiful but she's cute and nice, has a nice figure, she seems to have her head on straight and has a plan. She wants to immigrate to the United States and I suspect she will make it and be a success.

BatInTheCity
06-18-15, 05:06
I don't see anyone here writing about it recently. Is it still open? And if it is, does it still open at 6 pm?

ThanksI hit golden times twice this week. Nice line up of Colombian girls, $120 for a massage and sexo. First girl was a little more fun than the second. Both did a massage, just going thru the motions really. Then got a covered BJ. Then sex. I went about 8 pm both times, a line up of a about ten girls each night. You get your rocks there, but pretty dull time, plus you have to do it on a massage table. It's safe and clean, but slightly dull in comparison to taking a girl to a comfy hotel and getting nutso. I am glad I went, but am used to a more crazy time. I did hit the Veneto casino too, but did not like the offering. About twenty girls at the bar, but not good looking to my eyes.

TripAdvisor15
06-19-15, 00:05
Gents,

Any recommendations or referral for Semi Pro? Looking for TLN with GFE. Please message me.

ShyGuy66
06-19-15, 01:49
Hello,

Going to Panama in July. The past two years I have stayed at the Veneto, and I have really enjoyed the nightly entertainment options. This year I'm not staying at the Veneto because of the bad rap it has gotten lately (A / see, Gov't takeover, etc.). I am staying at the El Hotel Panama which according to site reports is not chica friendly. A girl I have been chatting with me told me about some rooms next to Veneto on Via Veneto. She said the rooms are $20 to occupy. Does anyone know if these rooms and the area around them is safe. Also, I plan to go to Le Palace to check it out. How is it? Has anyone visited the establishment? Should I go there? What about Habanos? How is the chica action there? Any advice is greatly appreciated.

P.S.

I really enjoy this forum. It has valuable information about the Panama chica scene.

Lucky Nuts
06-20-15, 02:20
I'll be here four nights starting on Weds June 24. If anyone wants to get together for a beer and / or hunting please PM me.

MadVillian
06-20-15, 21:13
Hello,

Going to Panama in July. The past two years I have stayed at the Veneto, and I have really enjoyed the nightly entertainment options. This year I'm not staying at the Veneto because of the bad rap it has gotten lately (A / see, Gov't takeover, etc.). I am staying at the El Hotel Panama which according to site reports is not chica friendly. A girl I have been chatting with me told me about some rooms next to Veneto on Via Veneto. She said the rooms are $20 to occupy. Does anyone know if these rooms and the area around them is safe. Also, I plan to go to Le Palace to check it out. How is it? Has anyone visited the establishment? Should I go there? What about Habanos? How is the chica action there? Any advice is greatly appreciated.I went to LE Palace last August, was a bit early at 9 pm as most girls were just showing up. Had a chance to speak to 2 girls but the price for takeout was astronomical ($250 for girl + $200 to the club). I had a much better time at Elite II, $30 cover includes basic and domestic drinks (Atlas, Vodka-Cranberry, etc) and table dances were $13 a song. I was able to get the number of a dancer and invited her to my hotel for a session the next day, cost was $120.

I haven't been to Panama since the recent influx of Cuban girls, but from other posters it seems like they were punted out of Habanos by the other P4P girls. I mainly went to Habanos to people-watch as its truly a sight to behold.

The search for a girl friendly hotel in Panama city seems to be an ongoing thread, it all seems to depend on who is manning the front desk and total luck. Posters have suggested that when you reserve a hotel, do it for 2 guests and tell them you will have your significant other checking in later.

I'm still looking for a short time hotel near Veneto, because I don't want to stay there any longer.

Lucky Nuts
06-21-15, 01:47
I went to LE Palace last August, was a bit early at 9 pm as most girls were just showing up. Had a chance to speak to 2 girls but the price for takeout was astronomical ($250 for girl + $200 to the club). I had a much better time at Elite II, $30 cover includes basic and domestic drinks (Atlas, Vodka-Cranberry, etc) and table dances were $13 a song. I was able to get the number of a dancer and invited her to my hotel for a session the next day, cost was $120.

I haven't been to Panama since the recent influx of Cuban girls, but from other posters it seems like they were punted out of Habanos by the other P4P girls. I mainly went to Habanos to people-watch as its truly a sight to behold.

The search for a girl friendly hotel in Panama city seems to be an ongoing thread, it all seems to depend on who is manning the front desk and total luck. Posters have suggested that when you reserve a hotel, do it for 2 guests and tell them you will have your significant other checking in later.

I'm still looking for a short time hotel near Veneto, because I don't want to stay there any longer.Just for the record regarding the Elite Club (is this the same as Elite II?) vodka is not included for the $30 "all you can drink". I'm a vodka drinker and needed to drink rum there instead.

Does anyone know if the Cubana chicas have a new bar hangout after Habanos? Or are they all at Veneto? Has anyone visited Club Ashe late night recently? How is the scene there?

Hobbiest1
06-21-15, 19:49
Just for the record regarding the Elite Club (is this the same as Elite II?) vodka is not included for the $30 "all you can drink". I'm a vodka drinker and needed to drink rum there instead.

Does anyone know if the Cubana chicas have a new bar hangout after Habanos? Or are they all at Veneto? Has anyone visited Club Ashe late night recently? How is the scene there?I went there 2 months ago on a Sunday night and it was dead. If Gauntman is around. Ask him as he knows better than anybody what's good on which nights.

MadVillian
06-21-15, 21:41
Just for the record regarding the Elite Club (is this the same as Elite II?) vodka is not included for the $30 "all you can drink". I'm a vodka drinker and needed to drink rum there instead.
The Elite I'm talking about is on Calle 50 and is directly across from the hooters. Funny you should say Vodka, because I did order a Vodka-Cranberry and never paid extra, this was late 2014. Were you asking for a premium vodka?

Maybe they thought I was on my period, since I ordered cranberry juice, and decided not to charge me. LOL.

Lucky Nuts
06-22-15, 01:33
The Elite I'm talking about is on Calle 50 and is directly across from the hooters. Funny you should say Vodka, because I did order a Vodka-Cranberry and never paid extra, this was late 2014. Were you asking for a premium vodka?

Maybe they thought I was on my period, since I ordered cranberry juice, and decided not to charge me. LOL.Yeah that's the same Elite Club. Right across the street from Hooters. I was there in February 2015. So either they discontinued vodka or I had a misunderstanding with the waitress. No I wasn't requesting a brand vodka. When it's all you can drink any vodka is OK with me.

YippieKayay
06-24-15, 00:23
So, after 'breakfast' I went 150 ft down the street to the Toscano Inn Hotel. I got a rate of $77 tax included. The Toscano is rated as a three star hotel but it seems more like a four star to me. Top to bottom it is well finished, clean, and rich feeling. The rooms have refrigerators, excellent showers, good air conditioners, and a safe, and are very nicely finished. The breakfast is excellent with fruit, eggs, a meat dish, pancakes or other bread like thing, juice and good coffee. The restaurant is open the rest of the day till 10:30 P with good and reasonably priced food, beer and wine. They have a Chica fee of $25. They have a doorman inside and guard outside the front door, and they consider it their job to open the door for you. I believe June is a slow month and the rate is probably normally higher than what I am paying...Thanks Paladin. I'm actually planning a 10 day stay in Panama come labour day weekend a couple of months from now so I'm eager to see which hotels are close to the Veneto and provide good service. Sounds like this place gave you no trouble and was very accommodating. My only concern with this hotel is their rooms look pretty small and they have no large suites. If anyone here knows of a nice place just down the street from Veneto with an established low chica fee, and large suites I'd like to hear about it.

Last year I stayed at the Veneto in one of their Junior suites which is a little over a hundred a night. I tipped the maid well enough that I always got tons of towels and my room was spotless. The only problem I had is no aqua caliente. That really pissed me off. If I can avoid the Veneto I want to.

Lucky Nuts
06-25-15, 00:53
Thanks Paladin. I'm actually planning a 10 day stay in Panama come labour day weekend a couple of months from now so I'm eager to see which hotels are close to the Veneto and provide good service. Sounds like this place gave you no trouble and was very accommodating. My only concern with this hotel is their rooms look pretty small and they have no large suites. If anyone here knows of a nice place just down the street from Veneto with an established low chica fee, and large suites I'd like to hear about it.

Last year I stayed at the Veneto in one of their Junior suites which is a little over a hundred a night. I tipped the maid well enough that I always got tons of towels and my room was spotless. The only problem I had is no aqua caliente. That really pissed me off. If I can avoid the Veneto I want to.I stayed at Tascano and the place is very nice with five star cleanliness and beds. However as you suggested the rooms are very tight so I felt cramped there and won't repeat. The Coral Suites is just a few steps down the street from there and although an older property the rooms are very spacious and clean. First chica is free if you register for two adults. After that it's $22.50 or $25.00 per chica registration. I don't recall exactly. Expedia usually has their rooms listed at $74.

BMo814
06-26-15, 13:45
Stayed at the Veneto for a 12 hour layover in Panama. I didn't find the room as horrible as some of the other people posting on the blog. IMO when your paying $60 a night what do you expect? (Which was the price on Booking.com) As far as P4P I haven't check out other areas but on the Wednesday night I was there the place was crawling with hotness. I arrived around 8 and there was easily 20 girls in casino area and maybe 7 dudes. By 9 everywhere you looked that's all you saw is fine women. Took a nice Colombiana named Lisa back to the room. First she asked for 200 for and hour and I walked away. I saw her 30 minutes later told her 140 and she was with the program. As far as chica fee it's a scam by security la Colombiana knew one of the security guys and gave him $20 . First they tried to play me, and told me it was $50 when I told them someone told me its $40 all of a sudden she had the bright idea to work a deal with security (go figure) This is like anything else to negotiate sometime you got to walk away. It's a buyers market more supply than demand. Tell you want some money or none hahah.

Happy hunting fellas.

YippieKayay
06-27-15, 13:50
Stayed at the Veneto for a 12 hour layover in Panama. I didn't find the room as horrible as some of the other people posting on the blog. IMO when your paying $60 a night what do you expect? (Which was the price on Booking.com) As far as P4P I haven't check out other areas but on the Wednesday night I was there the place was crawling with hotness. I arrived around 8 and there was easily 20 girls in casino area and maybe 7 dudes. By 9 everywhere you looked that's all you saw is fine women. Took a nice Colombiana named Lisa back to the room. First she asked for 200 for and hour and I walked away. I saw her 30 minutes later told her 140 and she was with the program. As far as chica fee it's a scam by security la Colombiana knew one of the security guys and gave him $20 . First they tried to play me, and told me it was $50 when I told them someone told me its $40 all of a sudden she had the bright idea to work a deal with security (go figure) This is like anything else to negotiate sometime you got to walk away. It's a buyers market more supply than demand. Tell you want some money or none hahah. Happy hunting fellas.The scene is Panama City, when it comes to Veneto versus Habanos can vary. When I was there last year in November, Habanos was rocking. I literally walked in and found a line up by the bar of eager women. Veneto at the time was OK but they had just instituted a chica fee. I think it was $40 at the time.

This thread is invaluable to know where the pendulum has swung before your next visit. Veneto could end up a real shit hole in a couple of months, or even end up with upgrades and no chica fee. Nothing seems permanent there.

One thing is for certain, the independent provider scene in PC is always alive somewhere.

Vitrea
06-28-15, 22:53
I'm looking for more info about the Cubanas! It's been a few yrs since I was in PTY, it's was mostly colombianas then. Do the cubanas go for cheaper? Since the "turf war" have they found their own area? Might do a long weekend in August.There has been a significant increase in Cuban girls in PTY. I did not find them any cheaper in the venues I met them. They are friendly but to me, all of them are. He he.

Purelif373
06-29-15, 01:52
There has been a significant increase in Cuban girls in PTY. I did not find them any cheaper in the venues I met them. They are friendly but to me, all of them are. He he.Had my first Cuban. Picked up from Veneto. As opposed to the Colombians, they are mostly slender and natural. Not enhanced as the colombians.

BMo814
06-30-15, 00:15
A small tip for you thrifty fellas like myself if you not too particular about your room the hotel Vento is dirt cheap at the moment! I booked a room for my return flight lay over (16.5 hours, Dios Mio!) for like $55 . At that price evens out the chica fee LOL. Hopefully I have luck again and get a pro who knows how to work security. Yall got me super interested in the Cubans but I can't like something about a slender, long hair big tits Colombians I can't deny. Oh yeah I forgot someone posted in a post a few post ago about a blonde Colombians that looks like a porn star, I think I saw her!! Fine as hell, was talking to some guy but every time I looked, she was looking to. I think I got to check that out if I see her again LOL. Let know how it goes. Later SD, PTY here I go one more time.

YippieKayay
06-30-15, 01:08
While I did book the Coral Suites (unsecured) for the 10 days I'll be staying there in September, I am looking at a nice condo as an alternative. I would very much like it to be in El Congrejo so I can do a pass by Veneto and Habanos to pick up pussy when I feel like it.

Can anyone recommend any websites or companies that rent out condos in that area? I'm finding plenty of condos by the waterfront but that's too far for me. I'm going to assume condos are always chica friendly.

Bonus if the condo has a balcony.

TripAdvisor15
07-01-15, 00:10
Are the Cubans going cheaper that the Col? Have the war affected prices? TLN possible for $300?

If anyone can recommend any semi pro or pro for GFE please PM.

Any suggestions for really nice restaurants?

Much appreciated.

YippieKayay
07-01-15, 02:53
Are the Cubans going cheaper that the Col? Have the war affected prices? TLN possible for $300?

If anyone can recommend any semi pro or pro for GFE please PM.

Any suggestions for really nice restaurants?

Much appreciated.I did TLN for $200 each a year ago before the Cubans started showing up.

I hear Beirut is great. It's near Habanos.

Member #4476
07-02-15, 15:28
Someone asked for restaurants. Best seafood was a place that I can't remember the actual name but everyone knows it by the name of owners. Acha. Just around the corner from Habano's.

We stayed at Royal Sonesta. Chica fee is ridiculous at $66. First chica is free if you register for 2 people. After that they will charge you. My friend just walked straight to the elevator and when the front desk waved at him, he just waved and shouted Hola and jumped in the elevator. He said when he got to the room, his phone was ringing but he just unplugged it and forgot about it. 5 girls in 5 nights and no fee as he just did the same thing every night. I did the same thing but one girl said no, "must register" and walked around corner to desk. Luckily first girl is free.

Was not as good as last trip as there were not as many Cubans. I prefer the Cubans over Columbians. YMMV but they are more fun. First 2 nights had 2 Venezualans. Skinny with perfect asses. Rest were Columbians. Preferred Habano's over Veneto but won a few hundred at Veneto on Craps, Blackjack and Roulette. Talent was all over the place from 3-9. Did not see any 10's this trip and less 9's than last time.

BabyHurricane
07-02-15, 15:45
Does this place charge a chica fee? Any info is appreciated.

ShyGuy66
07-05-15, 18:00
Going to Panama next week. What is latest on the Chica fee at Veneto? Is it still being enforced? How much? Where do you pay this fee? Security guards close to elevators or downstairs in the lobby? Is fee for each chica or does fee cover multiple chicas? Information on this fee is greatly appreciated!

Mrkuyamandla
07-06-15, 04:39
Golden time is $120 and is like an Asian massage parlor with rooms and full service, just all Colombian gals. 10 or so in the 7-9 area. Many taxi drivers don't know it and you can just say Plaza Mirage on Tumba Muerto.

Also for people looking to bring girls back, the checking at the aloft is on the 2nd floor and the elevators are on the ground floor. No one would be looking to stop you.

YippieKayay
07-06-15, 15:53
Going to Panama next week. What is latest on the Chica fee at Veneto? Is it still being enforced? How much? Where do you pay this fee? Security guards close to elevators or downstairs in the lobby? Is fee for each chica or does fee cover multiple chicas? Information on this fee is greatly appreciated!It's 40 dollars + tax. The security is at both elevators, and when I was there last year they were VERY sneaky. They'd hide and come out to tap you on the shoulder as you got to the elevator.

You might try bribing security but I've seen them also have two people there to make sure bribing is harder.

If you want a hotel close by that has a cheaper fee try the Tuscano Inn Hotel or Coral Suites. Both have it around $20 to $25. Call ahead and confirm.

EDIT: Fixed Tuscan to Tuscano.

Lucky Nuts
07-07-15, 01:34
Yes Beruit is very good. I highly recommend the baked kibbeh. They might call it roasted kibbeh there. Add a salad for a nice contrast. An excellent steak house is El Gaucho. It's a short cab ride away from the action. I'll be back around Veneto and Habanos next week if anyone else is there and wants to meet for a beer.

Lucky Nuts
07-12-15, 23:59
This forum is pretty quiet lately. Offseason perhaps? Well I'll be arriving late Monday night. Curious to see if there is a good crop of Cubanas in town. My plan is to visit Veneto evenings and Habanos later night (obviously for non-cubanas). Maybe get to Ashe later night if necessary. I'll update ustedes upon my return in a few days.

YippieKayay
07-13-15, 01:19
This forum is pretty quiet lately. Offseason perhaps? Well I'll be arriving late Monday night. Curious to see if there is a good crop of Cubanas in town. My plan is to visit Veneto evenings and Habanos later night (obviously for non-cubanas). Maybe get to Ashe later night if necessary. I'll update ustedes upon my return in a few days.I think I speak for a lot of other posters when I say, they want to know where you stayed at and what the chica fee was.

Have fun.

(Also, if you can, let us know if the Veneto is improving or if its still a shit-hole in terms of its rooms. A / see, cleaning etc.).

Lucky Nuts
07-13-15, 01:59
I think I speak for a lot of other posters when I say, they want to know where you stayed at and what the chica fee was.

Have fun.

(Also, if you can, let us know if the Veneto is improving or if its still a shit-hole in terms of its rooms. A / see, cleaning etc.).I'm staying at the Hyatt Place hotel which is pretty close to Habanos. I stopped in there late night a couple months ago and asked about the chica fee. I don't remember the exact dollar amount but I was very surprised how fair it was for a very nice hotel. Somewhere between $15 & $22. I'm staying for three nights and booked for two adults so expect my first chica fee will be free. I prefer TLN if possible with a 9. If not (my experience is that 9's almost never are willing to do TLN) I always pay up for two hours to elminate the rush factor. Hope the chica fee hasn't been increased since that night I visited. Will let you know.

ShyGuy66
07-13-15, 02:19
I think I speak for a lot of other posters when I say, they want to know where you stayed at and what the chica fee was.

Have fun.

(Also, if you can, let us know if the Veneto is improving or if its still a shit-hole in terms of its rooms. A / see, cleaning etc.).Excited about my trip to Panama next week! I will arrive this coming Thursday. I will be in Panama 5 nights. Still wondering about Veneto's chica fee. Is the fee still 50 dollars per chica?. I hate this fee! It is taking.

Away from my chica budget. I will be at Veneto only 3 nights. The other 2 nights, I will be staying at a.

Hotel nearby that is not chica friendly. My plan is to visit Le Palacemy first night in Panama for eye candy.

Purposes. Then return to Veneto to check out the girl line up. I hear there are some rooms available next to Veneto that charge 20 dollars an hour. If time permits, the Elite Club is on my itinerary of places to visit.

Lastly, I want to definitely visit Habanos. Everybody on the site posts positive comments about this.

Establishment. Any cheap hotels around the area? Do any of the girls have their own apartments? What.

About Golden Times? Is a trip over to Golden worth it? Your advise is appreciated. I will begin packing.

Tomorrow. Super excited about this trip!

Mortega
07-17-15, 05:57
The scene at veneto is ok but the chica fee is out of hand 40 dollars per room visit. Lets fing a hotel no chica fee and have sex with many chicks as possible.

Lee
07-17-15, 16:17
The scene at veneto is ok but the chica fee is out of hand 40 dollars per room visit. Lets fing a hotel no chica fee and have sex with many chicks as possible.The question:

Are you currently staying at the Veneto?

If so: what is the condition of the hotel.

Reports of no air conditioning true or false.

Lee.

Lucky Nuts
07-19-15, 03:04
I arrived Monday night on schedule 9 PM. With the help of 5 hour energy drink I was good for the night ahead. Got a cab upstairs for $20 into la ciudad. Checked into Hyatt Suites hotel which is about 2 blocks from Habanos and 5 blocks from Veneto. Paid $275 with taxes for three nights. This is a really nice hotel and I recommend it if you don't mind paying this higher cost. The chica fee here is $15. I registered for two adults and they didn't charge me for the first chica registered each night. All the hotel employees speak english which makes everything a lot easier here. The employees, front desk and security guards, were all a pleasure to deal with.

I walked over to Veneto primetime and found the usual crowd of chicas. I always take an indirect route to the bar so as to not get swarmed. There were probably 25 or 30 chicas hanging in the bar or around the edges. The Veneto has reinstated the $25 fee girls are suppose to pay and wear plastic bracelets. I saw a couple guys try to rush a couple chicas to the elevators but security got there before the elevator and that ended that. I asked about the chica fee for hotel guests and was told it's $43. There is a black guy wearing a tie always hanging out around the bar perimeter area. I'm not sure what his job is. Victor grew up in the states so he speaks perfect english and is a good source of info on what's going on around Venet.

I've made 3 visits in 5 months and notice that most of the Cuban chicas don't stay in Panama long. Sounds like they make enough cash to continue their journey up to the USA. As expected all my previous favs were gone. A couple I did recognize but they were not my type. So anyhow I searched for a new diamond in the rough. The best I could find was named Angelica. I got here number for an afternoon session the following day. As I left I found one other decent chica near the escalator named Dulce. I'd say these two girls were 8's and all the rest in Veneto were 3's to 7's. But I'm pretty fussy if I'm paying for the entertainment.

It was time to catch the scene at Habanos. It was less busy than I expected but maybe because it was a Monday night. I talked with the manager and he said Cubanas are allowed on premises but he couldn't find one for me. I told him this will hurt his business with norte americanos. He continued to insist Cubanas are allowed to be there. I think we should all push this issue when we visit here. I got a couple more phone numbers for afternoons. Then after an extensive search for a $200 TLN I picked Marcella de Barranquilla. Wow she is really a cool chic. Probably the most intelligent chica I've ever had. We had a great conversation for about an hour before getting going. Once we got it going it was super hot and passionate. We banged for an hora y media and I didn't come. I decided to hold it if I could with all the upcoming action. If anyone is interested in seeing and / or meeting Marcella pm me your whatsapp number. It was now 4 AM and I was wide awake thanks 5 Hour Energy and muy Miller Lites. Although Marcella wanted to stay and sleep I told her I'd rather be alone to sleep. The reason I ask and pay for TLN is just so I'm in control of the clock. If I was tired it would have been great to cuddle up with her and doze off. But I was ready to go out again and see what's happening at Veneto. Not really in hopes of another chica but just curious to see what's cooking at 4:30 AM. Up the escalator I find only two chicas there. Both were probably 5's. I sat bullshitting with Victor who was still hanging out at that hour. A few minutes later a solid 8 sits down at a table and orders some food after finishing a session. I was planning to wait until Manolos opened for breakfast at 6 AM until I saw she ordered San Cocho. I love the stuff so also ordered a bowl and we ate together. Geez I wasn't horny when I arrived but she had a great smile and a hot body. Her culo was rounder than I usually pick. After eating with her and chatting my dick was getting hard again because of her smile. I asked her how much for a half hour and she laughed. We agreed on $100 for one pop. Damn she was great in bed, the real deal, and I still don't know her name. Next trip I'm going to have all the chicas write down their name and number as soon as we enter my hotel room. We banged for an hour easy, she said I was like pollino. When she told me what that meant I was laughing so hard while fucking her. The lack of sleep I think was making me giddy. After I finally came she asked about sleeping over. I think the chicas liked the fact it was a nice hotel (not to mention a nice guy LOL). It was 6:30 AM and I was done for the night and wanted to be alone. She persisted but I told her I wanted to sleep until afternoon and she would be waking me up in the morning. Off she went. I dunno why I didn't' get her phone number but I guess I just felt done with her at that moment.

Although I hoped to sleep late my body clock woke me at 9:30 AM. Fuck only three hours sleep but at least I could catch the hotel's free breakfast. I filled my huge travel mug with cafe con leche caliente and used the hotels "to go" cups for the fresh fruits mas tarde when I was more hungry. Mid afternoon I enjoyed the fruit and then headed over to Manolos for the remainder of my meal. From there I texted Angelica de Cuba. She responded immediately and we made a $100 appointment at 4 PM. She arrived at 5 PM and I met her outside the hotel. She asked what I wanted to do and I said we already had made our deal via texting. She then says it's $150 instead of $100. I said sure that's fine if her service includes chupar sin condon. She said no and I said ok it's $100 or good bye. We entered the hotel and the front desk was swamped so we just went to the elevator. I didn't care about $15 but I didn't want to waste a bunch of time waiting. Once in the room I paid her and could see she was not going to be like the first two chicas the night before. She was sorta weird and a cold fish. I didn't even talk to her the night before. Just walked up and asked for her phone number. But anyhow she had a really hot body and I wanted to screw her. I told her to undress and she finally went to the bathroom and came out with a towel. By this time I had youtubed some musica and asked if she would rather choose something different. She knelt down on the bed to play with the computer and I could see her nice clean pussy. Oh yeah! But this sick chic youtubes the strangest damn shit I've ever heard. Some sort of Indian musica that was just totally fucking up the mood. But her body was smokin' so my dick was damn hard. I fought her to remove the towel and then gently pushed her onto her back and let her know it this was now starting. After a couple minutes of the typical fake moaning (I think they are always hoping the guy pops right away) I swing her right leg around my head so that I can cradle her. She is probably a 100 pounds and I give her some pleasure. Her arms are reaching for the top of the headboard for a grip but she can't find anything. I continue to cradle her for a little while. The loud fake moaning has stopped and is now replaced with a more quiet natural moaning. The fucking Indian music was driving me crazy and I was getting pissed off. We were too close to the headboard so I spun her around 180 degrees. On her belly and with her legs straightened out I had her how I wanted. I banged and banged and banged from the backside. Angelica is 20 years old and has a beautiful ass. Her arms were hanging over the foot of the bed and flailing wildly. Her natural uncontrolled moans were timed perfectly with my thrusts. I probably should have but decided against popping my nut with her. I just banged her hard until I felt I had a hundred bucks worth. Then I reached for the computer saying "musica horrible" and changed it. I told her to leave. I don't recommend Angelica. She's only in it for the money but she got more than that on this day.

I went to the greek diner across from Veneto for the gyro platter. It's great! The waiter here speaks english and it's always nice to see a familiar face. After that up to the Veneto bar I met up with a businessman travelling from Argentina. A couple hours later we met up at Habonos and hung out together. The place was still not packed like I've seen it my last couple times in town and still after 24 hours I haven't seen a 9. We are sitting at a table and finally there she is. The Hottie. This one shall remain anonymous sorry guys. I wave her over and she talks with us for a few minutes. I then ask her to leave for a couple minutes. I offer her to mi amigo but he said he really isn't sure yet. I explain that she's probably not going to last long in there because she's a solid 9. He told me to go for it. So I wave her back over and we talk some more. Clearly she's new to the game. I say it's $100 right and she says yes $100. OK let's go. Adios amigo! As soon as my hotel door closes she reaches for my dick which was already hard and starts kissing me. She was like a horny 17 year old but in fact she is 21 and Panamanian. Strange for me because I'm not usually attracted to the locals. But she has a more exotic look than normal. After taking a shower I open the room safe to pay her and offer her a second $100 bill for TLN. Now she is really happy and horny. We make out like a couple teenagers on a first date for fifteen minutes. While we are kissing she is stroking my dick just like a girlfriend would. She has very small hands and my dick looks huge as she plays with it. After enough kissing I lay back to see what she does and sure enough she just stares at and plays with my dick. Wetting her lips and pushing her hair behind her shoulder her face keeps getting closer and closer. Finally she starts licking and kissing and sucking. Chupar sin condon from a chica that enjoys it! Fantastic! After a while she 69's me but I decided to pass since I was paying enough good money anyhow. Then con condon I penetrated and quickly moved her around to the cradle and then backside. Hanging onto her tiny waist and nice tits I banged her like crazy. Thank you viagra and cialis! Without all the details this time it was just great sex. We'll be seeing each other again soon.

Day 3 I texted a girl named Laura. I was disappointed when she arrived about 6 pm. I must have had a lot of beers when I got her number on Monday night at Habanos. Anyhow she was 21 and had a pretty nice ass and the pills were still working very well on me. I banged the hell out of her and she was really happy that she had a release. She was smiling from ear to ear. The last chica later that night from Habanos was a dud. Very disappointing. She is short with big new silicone boobs that were too painful to be touched. Her pussy smelled horrible. I don't know her name but she is from the Cali area of Colombia. She is 30 years old but looks 25 or 26. Sorry I didn't get her name. Beware! So anyhow day 3 was not a great day.

But overall it was a great trip. Just wish there were more hotties around town. Maybe next time.

Hasta Luego. VegasCrazyGuy.

YippieKayay
07-19-15, 03:24
I arrived Monday night on schedule 9 PM. With the help of 5 hour energy drink I was good for the night ahead. Got a cab upstairs for $20 into la ciudad. Checked into Hyatt Suites hotel which is about 2 blocks from Habanos and 5 blocks from Veneto. Paid $275 with taxes for three nights. This is a really nice hotel and I recommend it if you don't mind paying this higher cost. The chica fee here is $15. I registered for two adults and they didn't charge me for the first chica registered each night. All the hotel employees speak english which makes everything a lot easier here. The employees, front desk and security guards, were all a pleasure to deal with.
Awesome. I booked 10 days in September at the Hyatt. I really appreciate you letting us know it went well.



I walked over to Veneto primetime and found the usual crowd of chicas. I always take an indirect route to the bar so as to not get swarmed.
How do you mean? I pass for a local until I open my mouth and speak terrible Spanish. Do they swarm gringos? I haven't had that happen to me. Well it sort of happened at Habanos because the bar was end to end chicas and I was about the only dude in there looking for action.

One of the chicas I chat with on Whatsapp occassionally told me that the area around Habanos is getting dangerous. Maybe they've had some bad shit happen and the place is losing business? I'm really hoping it will rock in September.

Sucks that you have to go to Veneto for action. How long of a walk is it? 15 minutes?

Lucky Nuts
07-19-15, 03:33
Awesome. I booked 10 days in September at the Hyatt. I really appreciate you letting us know it went well.

How do you mean? I pass for a local until I open my mouth and speak terrible Spanish. Do they swarm gringos? I haven't had that happen to me. Well it sort of happened at Habanos because the bar was end to end chicas and I was about the only dude in there looking for action.

One of the chicas I chat with on Whatsapp occassionally told me that the area around Habanos is getting dangerous. Maybe they've had some bad shit happen and the place is losing business? I'm really hoping it will rock in September.

Sucks that you have to go to Veneto for action. How long of a walk is it? 15 minutes?Relax the neighborhoods around here are perfectly safe to walk around. Of course that's coming from someone who just spent a winter in Medellin LOL. All I meant is that the chicas are always looking for the new gringos coming up the escalator so I don't walk directly from there to the bar. I head to the back of the casino first so I can size things up from a distance.

Dickhead
07-19-15, 03:39
I pass for a local until I open my mouth and speak terrible Spanish.Ja ja. I have the opposite situation, where all the locals assume I understand nothing since I look like an albino. I hear some interesting observations about pinche gringos and so forth. Then as I am leaving I will say 'Qué Uds. tengan un muy buen día' or some such, just to watch their reactions.

Lucky Strike
07-19-15, 05:51
One of the chicas I chat with on Whatsapp occassionally told me that the area around Habanos is getting dangerous. I've stayed at Hyatt for 2 nights a month ago, and I concur that the area between Hyatt and Habanos is "dangerous. " Especially for a gringo. But in a different sense: both nights I was stopped by tourist police within 2-3 blocks from Hyatt. 1st night they kept asking where I was going and demanded to see my cedula. I showed them a copy of my passport (the original was in my room of course).

The "jr" guy called up the senior, and both looked surprised that I was a gringo (1st time in a Lat Am country that a local thought I was a latino, not a gringo.) I pretended that I speak zero Espanol, so the next thing the "sr" officer wanted to see the page with visa. I told him let's walk to my hotel. It's 2 blocks away. The "officer" of course said no and started talking like he wants me to "ayudar" (help) him. That made me effing-mad: my 1st night, less than 4 hours off a plane, and I'm already being extorted. It's dangerous to show signs that you're mad at local cops in a foreign country, so I kept repeating "am I free to go?" and after a few min of literally haggling he figured that I wasn't going to pay him.

He told me I was free to go. Funniest thing was when I turned around and went back in the direction of my hotel. That officer almost ran back to me and started pointing that habanos was in the opposite directions. It was almost comical how he ran up that small hill toward Hyatt behind me. He caught up with me and was telling me it's ok to proceed to habanos. Why he was so worried that I was going back to the hotel? I have no idea. But he was very surprised when I told him in a heavily accented but grammatically solid spanish that I didn't appreciate such treatment, and that I was leaving next day and I'll never come back to Panama and will not spend another dime in his country, and that I will make every effort to contact Habanos management and tell them how I was treated by the tourist police.

That night I actually did not go to my hotel but went to Elite and Ashe.

The next night I was stopped by 2 different "officers" , but that time I had a copy of the visa page. They didn't like that either (they wanted the original to which I told them I'm not an idiot to carry the passport at 11:30 pm) but again they didn't get a dime out of me.

So, is the area dangerous for gringos? Yes, because we're subjected to blatant extortion.

P.S. I don't think I look threatening or suspicious at all, and almost never get hassled by cops in any other country.

YippieKayay
07-19-15, 14:40
That sucks Lucky Strike. I would be fuming too.

The chica I chat with on Whatsapp (occasionally) told me she got mugged and sent me photos of her bruises. She was begging for money to eat. It was the one time I felt bad and sent her some cash through Western Union. I was probably hustled but on the off-chance that she was serious I didn't want to be cold hearted. Then she came up with other stories which were less convincing so I told her to cut that shit out.

That being said I actually feel bad for her. I can't imagine being a single mom with two kids and essentially hustling tourists for money and turning tricks. What a crazy life. That's one of the downsides of meeting these women. It's a hustle, and even if they "befriend" you they are still looking at you like a giant sack of cash. Before leaving PC last November, she told me she really enjoyed her time with me because I made her feel "rich" like a "tourist. " I think she was being sincere. I really doubt she gets to eat out or hang out in nice places without getting a gringo to pay for it. When I say nice places, I mean a bar in Casco Viejo that looks like a regular chain bar from North America.

In any case, when I did tell her I'd be back and hitting Habanos and how I would be fucking "cada chicas" she kept telling me that area is a lot more dangerous and I should stay away. Yeah, that warning isn't deterring me.



That night I actually did not go to my hotel but went to Elite and Ashe.
How are those places? I have never been but from what I gather you're looking at $200-400 to get the girl to leave for an hour because of all the extra fees. Always seemed like a rip off. I'd much rather just hire an independent from Veneto or Habanos. What was your experience like there?

Lucky Strike
07-19-15, 16:56
That sucks Lucky Strike. I would be fuming too.

The chica I chat with on Whatsapp (occasionally) told me she got mugged and sent me photos of her bruises. She was begging for money to eat. It was the one time I felt bad and sent her some cash through Western Union. I was probably hustled but on the off-chance that she was serious I didn't want to be cold hearted.
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How are those places? I have never been but from what I gather you're looking at $200-400 to get the girl to leave for an hour because of all the extra fees. Always seemed like a rip off. I'd much rather just hire an independent from Veneto or Habanos. What was your experience like there?I've not posted a "full report" because I've stayed in PTY for a very short time (2 nights, both were shorter than normal due to late arrival and early departure) and myself I had to read this thread before venturing out. Plus my recollections are probably biased because of the tourist police thing that drove me mad. I did not pay for "take out", got their numbers and negotiated lower rates during the day-time.

I too had girls working at PTY asking me for money. Yes, you don't want to appear a dick, but also don't want to be an ATM. I've helped one that I knew for several years. She was god at making $$, but even better at spending $$. I knew she needed it, and if I ever met her again she'd "pay" me back. Also, some chicas just aren't made for this business and simply can't make enough money in this game. But there are some that make enough to start business and buy real estate so they "retire" and live upper-middle class lifestyle. Most of them are "hot", but by no means the hottest out there.

Lucky Nuts
07-19-15, 18:54
I've not posted a "full report" because I've stayed in PTY for a very short time (2 nights, both were shorter than normal due to late arrival and early departure) and myself I had to read this thread before venturing out. Plus my recollections are probably biased because of the tourist police thing that drove me mad. I did not pay for "take out", got their numbers and negotiated lower rates during the day-time.

I too had girls working at PTY asking me for money. Yes, you don't want to appear a dick, but also don't want to be an ATM. I've helped one that I knew for several years. She was god at making $$, but even better at spending $$. I knew she needed it, and if I ever met her again she'd "pay" me back. Also, some chicas just aren't made for this business and simply can't make enough money in this game. But there are some that make enough to start business and buy real estate so they "retire" and live upper-middle class lifestyle. Most of them are "hot", but by no means the hottest out there.I've spent a total of 18 nights in PC since late February. The experience has been very different for me. I have not yet met a police officer and actually I don't recall if I've even seen one anywhere other than an occasional police car. I have often walked around with an open beer and cross streets anywhere zipping between the cars. I did have a couple casino security guards stop me one day to inform me it's not legal to walk around with a beer. Since then I get cans instead of bottles since cans are less noticeable. I've never had anyone directly ask me for money except one day a guy approached me while eating at Manolos. Maybe it's got to do with the way a person dresses or appears. I'm typically wearing raggedy cargo shorts and a white t-shirt of sorts. I haven't worn any jewelry for over 20 years. Although I'm clearly a gringo I definitely look like a poor son of a *****. I'll always remember a remark a stripper at Spearmint Rhino in Vegas a few years ago - "I guess you can get away with dressing like that when you have a pocket full of money" LOL! (I was wearing old jeans and a raggedy old black hoodie. Which has since been disallowed in there due to gang problems.

P.S. I was probably a sucker too but I gave that guy $5 because he said he needed to buy medicine for his daughter who was sick. I figured there was probably a one in ten chance he was telling the truth because I never saw him before. So I decided to err on that side since five bucks doesn't mean shit to me anyhow.

P.P.S. Elite club is a nice place to relax in a very comfortable chair, drink all you want for $30 (certain things), and enjoy some great stage dancing. But don't get take out from there like my amigo and I did one night after too many free drinks. Cost was $400 with all fees to house and chica. Ashe is another decent club (like Habanos) to find independent chicas but it gets going later at night. Both Elite and Ashe are located near Hooters.

Lucky Strike
07-20-15, 04:33
I've spent a total of 18 nights in PC since late February. The experience has been very different for me. I have not yet met a police officer and actually I don't recall if I've even seen one anywhere other than an occasional police car. Perhaps since February thing have changed and YippieKayay's chica was telling the truth: crime is up and so are police patrols. While I've not seen police in the immediate vicinity of Veneto, both nights I was there I saw "tourist police" (can't miss them, it's splashed in shiny letters on what looked like body armor) in groups of 2 on several corners as I was walking from Hyatt to Habanos or Ashe / Elite. I witnessed they stopped gringos 3 other times, and at least 2 of them produced actual passports, or something that looked very much like passports.

Maybe it was just "unlucky" weekend. Anyway, even though I don't intend to travel to PTY anytime soon, I'd appreciate if someone would post up-to-date info on the "tourist police" situation.

FastCajun
07-20-15, 22:26
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YippieKayay
07-20-15, 22:48
Perhaps since February thing have changed and YippieKayay's chica was telling the truth: crime is up and so are police patrols. While I've not seen police in the immediate vicinity of Veneto, both nights I was there I saw "tourist police" (can't miss them, it's splashed in shiny letters on what looked like body armor) in groups of 2 on several corners as I was walking from Hyatt to Habanos or Ashe / Elite. I witnessed they stopped gringos 3 other times, and at least 2 of them produced actual passports, or something that looked very much like passports.
This would likely explain the exodus of Cubans. I wonder how many of those Cubans had proper paperwork? How many of them were trafficked in, caught, and sent home.

GauntMan
07-20-15, 22:49
I went there 2 months ago on a Sunday night and it was dead. If Gauntman is around. Ask him as he knows better than anybody what's good on which nights.Ashe is packed almost every single day, it all depends on the time. Mostly after 12 am or 1 am the place is crowded.

DarkSide99
07-22-15, 06:24
This would likely explain the exodus of Cubans. I wonder how many of those Cubans had proper paperwork? How many of them were trafficked in, caught, and sent home.Most Cubans I spoke to told me that they only had transit visas. Meaning that they were only valid for a few days so they can transit through Panama to Costa Rica.

Lucky Nuts
07-28-15, 01:26
Most Cubans I spoke to told me that they only had transit visas. Meaning that they were only valid for a few days so they can transit through panama to Costa Rica.I've been with a few Cubanas and they each told me they planned to stay in Panama about a month before continuing their journey north. So I'll guess they are travelling on a 30 day transit visa and maximizing their time in PC to raise cash. I think this explains why most Cubanas are better providers than Colombianas (IMHO). It's because they aren't really pros. They are just working temporarily while they are travelling. If someone knows they are still working upon arrival here in the USA Please let me know where and how to find them.

TripAdvisor15
07-28-15, 14:31
I've been with a few Cubanas and they each told me they planned to stay in Panama about a month before continuing their journey north. So I'll guess they are travelling on a 30 day transit visa and maximizing their time in PC to raise cash. I think this explains why most Cubanas are better providers than Colombianas (IMHO). It's because they aren't really pros. They are just working temporarily while they are travelling. If someone knows they are still working upon arrival here in the USA Please let me know where and how to find them.It appears they settle mostly in Miami. Like VegasCrazyGuy said, anyone with links to them there and are willing to share?

Rambis Youth
08-04-15, 10:09
Can anyone advise if the Hampton Inn is GF? It's 5 k Hilton points a night which seems a great deal.

GeechieBoy
08-07-15, 02:10
I just got back from Panama for a short visit. I had the chance to check out the Veneto and the Havana Club. I had a gal from Medellin fly in and stay with me 4 of the 5 nights I was there-- so really only had one good night to check out the action.

Veneto was full of girls-- I met a couple of very sexy Cubans at the bar and chatted them up. They were 7-8's.

I headed over to Havana club-- full of Colombian gals-- many 5-6's and a sprinkle of 8-9's.

I ended up pulling a solid 9 who happened to be Panamanian. She wanted 200 $ which is really high in my opinion. I tried to negotiate with her she wouldn't budge-- as she was the best thing in the bar by far I went for it!

Great choice-- she was awesome in every way. Very sweet and personable also.

My big complaint! The Hard Rock sucks assholes. They charged me a 105 $ guest fee for the night. It is total bullshit and I will never stay at that crap ass hotel again. The rooms suck, the service sucks, and they are NOT chica friendly at all. Fuck the Hard Rock Megaopolis up the fucking ass.

The rest of my trip was outstanding-- I had my long time GF from Medellin for the next 4 days and we had a great time-- the fact that she is a solid 10 with no kids and no boyfriend is also a plus!

Agee19
08-07-15, 13:38
I just got back from Panama for a short visit. I had the chance to check out the Veneto and the Havana Club. I had a gal from Medellin fly in and stay with me 4 of the 5 nights I was there-- so really only had one good night to check out the action.

Veneto was full of girls-- I met a couple of very sexy Cubans at the bar and chatted them up. They were 7-8's.

I headed over to Havana club-- full of Colombian gals-- many 5-6's and a sprinkle of 8-9's.

I ended up pulling a solid 9 who happened to be Panamanian. She wanted 200 $ which is really high in my opinion. I tried to negotiate with her she wouldn't budge-- as she was the best thing in the bar by far I went for it!

Great choice-- she was awesome in every way. Very sweet and personable also.

My big complaint! The Hard Rock sucks assholes. They charged me a 105 $ guest fee for the night. It is total bullshit and I will never stay at that crap ass hotel again. The rooms suck, the service sucks, and they are NOT chica friendly at all. Fuck the Hard Rock Megaopolis up the fucking ass.

The rest of my trip was outstanding-- I had my long time GF from Medellin for the next 4 days and we had a great time-- the fact that she is a solid 10 with no kids and no boyfriend is also a plus!No kids or boyfriend that you know of. I too hate Hard Rock hotels, regardless where they are located.

GeechieBoy
08-07-15, 17:52
No kids or boyfriend that you know of. I too hate Hard Rock hotels, regardless where they are located.Yeah -- I'm a little smarter than that.

I have been to Medellin many times and have spent a lot of time with her and her family. I am quite sure she has no kids and boyfriend.

Wrong Places
08-08-15, 21:32
I just got back from Panama for a short visit. I had the chance to check out the Veneto and the Havana Club. I had a gal from Medellin fly in and stay with me 4 of the 5 nights I was there-- so really only had one good night to check out the action.

Veneto was full of girls-- I met a couple of very sexy Cubans at the bar and chatted them up. They were 7-8's.

I headed over to Havana club-- full of Colombian gals-- many 5-6's and a sprinkle of 8-9's.Just to clarify, the place you're talking about is universally referred to as "Habanos" here. Even though there is a sign that says "Havana Club. " There used to be a "Club Havana" in Casco Viejo but I think it's something else now. It was a normal club for locals but happened to be two blocks from Bocatoreno and a good destination if you didn't want to tell a cab driver that you were going to Boca.

Oil Stain
08-09-15, 02:18
No kids or boyfriend that you know of. I too hate Hard Rock hotels, regardless where they are located.Agree 100%.

Fuddzie
08-11-15, 01:38
From what I have read, it seems like PC is expensive for mongering. $100 plus plus chica fees seems too much for the average monger. Perhaps there are more reasonable venues to be had.

MadVillian
08-11-15, 02:06
From what I have read, it seems like PC is expensive for mongering. $100 plus plus chica fees seems too much for the average monger. Perhaps there are more reasonable venues to be had.Pretty much that's the going rate in Panama.

There is some hole in wall casa where locals go for chicas at relatively low cost (Were talking less than $30). It's got an on-site suite, so you don't have to do take out. Apparently there are some gems mixed in with the 5's and 6's. However, I'm not 100% sure of the location or its name. Best to venture in with a local or ex-pat who can be your trusted wing.

Rippa
08-11-15, 03:31
From what I have read, it seems like PC is expensive for mongering. $100 plus plus chica fees seems too much for the average monger. Perhaps there are more reasonable venues to be had.You clearly, my good man, have simply not done your homework here and RTFF. There is much more to PC than The Veneto, Habanos, and TO from places like Elite, which can cost you a $, or in the case of clubs like the latter, a LOT more. But at the other end of the spectrum there are bars like La Bocatorea, El Mayor, Gruta Azul and many others where true bargain mongering can be found, certainly by North American and European standards at least. And if you like it really cheap and gritty, how's. 15 for 15 minutes upstairs on a nasty matress in Casco Viejo sound?

While we're at it though, in looking over your posts, I see lots of questions and pontification from afar, but few actionable Field Reports. And then there's THIS famous gem from you a few months back on this thread:

"I read that AIDS is out of control in Panama. Even with condom, the odd of meeting a woman HIV infected is almost a sure thing. I don't like these odds. ".

Not to pick on you or anything Old Chap, but if you truly believe STDS are so rampant in Panama, why would you worry about the price of pussy there at all?

Now this is for you guys out there contemplating a trip to Panama City. From my limited experence it's no Macau (Man Heaven), Manila, Brazil or German FKK Club. But it's still good hunting, especially if you are traveling through for a few days on a work release from Sex Prison (read USA). Why some try to incessantly denigrate the Punting opportunities in PC is just beyond me.

Wrong Places
08-11-15, 17:54
You clearly, my good man, have simply not done your homework here and RTFF. There is much more to PC than The Veneto, Habanos, and TO from places like Elite, which can cost you a $, or in the case of clubs like the latter, a LOT more. But at the other end of the spectrum there are bars like La Bocatorea, El Mayor, Gruta Azul and many others where true bargain mongering can be found, certainly by North American and European standards at least. And if you like it really cheap and gritty, how's. 15 for 15 minutes upstairs on a nasty matress in Casco Viejo sound?

While we're at it though, in looking over your posts, I see lots of questions and pontification from afar, but few actionable Field Reports. And then there's THIS famous gem from you a few months back on this thread:.Thank you for that. You beat me too it. There appears to be a great fear here of venturing away from the usual high dollar places and it's completely unwarranted.

Let me add two points to your excellent post. The first is that none of the lower cost alternatives you mentioned are unsafe. Guys are not going to get mugged going to or from Boca or its next door neighbor and they're not at risk of getting beat up inside. The second is to consider Boca a showroom. There's no requirement to do anything in back or upstairs so spend the $15, get them naked, check out the attitude and surgery scars and then take them out or make a date for the next day. At Boca they're all free to come and go and there are no bar fines. I'd much rather spend $15 to discover a bad attitude onsite before spending $150 to do it later.

And, if anyone can explain the big baseball trophies behind the bar at Boca, please do. Bars sponsor baseball teams all over the US but a house of prostitution sponsoring a team seems bizarre, even for LA.

And, and, I've been everywhere you mentioned. If anyone has more places, please suggest and I'll report when I'm there over Labor Day weekend.

Rippa
08-14-15, 13:55
Thank you for that. You beat me too it. There appears to be a great fear here of venturing away from the usual high dollar places and it's completely unwarranted.

Let me add two points to your excellent post. The first is that none of the lower cost alternatives you mentioned are unsafe. Guys are not going to get mugged going to or from Boca or its next door neighbor and they're not at risk of getting beat up inside. The second is to consider Boca a showroom. There's no requirement to do anything in back or upstairs so spend the $15, get them naked, check out the attitude and surgery scars and then take them out or make a date for the next day. At Boca they're all free to come and go and there are no bar fines. I'd much rather spend $15 to discover a bad attitude onsite before spending $150 to do it later.

And, if anyone can explain the big baseball trophies behind the bar at Boca, please do. Bars sponsor baseball teams all over the US but a house of prostitution sponsoring a team seems bizarre, even for LA.

And, and, I've been everywhere you mentioned. If anyone has more places, please suggest and I'll report when I'm there over Labor Day weekend.WP, looks like you need to invest in a $20 subscription to Jackson so you can receive PM's. You'll be handsomely rewarded with useful information coming your way in return. I can give you names of other mongering locations and insights into PC.

From your earlier posts it appears you aren't afraid to explore some of the more 'interesting' sights to experience in the City. I like that adventurous spirit of curiosity. Let the timid Fat Cats on overly generous travel expense accounts who won't bother to learn 20 words of Spanish spend all their time and way too much $$ in Habanos, Elite and Ache. Fun places, to be sure, but a vanilla flavored Panama City at best. There is so much more to see and do here.

Dickhead
08-14-15, 20:29
From what I have read, it seems like PC is expensive for mongering. $100 plus plus chica fees seems too much for the average monger. Perhaps there are more reasonable venues to be had.Yeah, but you also said you were too chicken shit to go there because all the women had AIDS. You read too much.

YippieKayay
08-14-15, 22:42
You can get a good looking girl in Panama for less than $100. There's the cheap, local brothels if you want them (although they're not for me). Then there's the Veneto, Habanos, Ashe circuit if you want to go for a pro. That's about $100 for short time. Then there's the strip clubs like Elite where you're looking at $400 minimum because of all the bullshit club fees tacked on. If you don't want any of this you can look online at the escort sites and in-calls. I'm sure there's some cheap deals to be had.

Overall though, it depends on what you want. I much prefer the Veneto. Habanos. Ashe circuit (I didn't visit Ashe on the last trip but will for my next one in a few weeks). I want to talk to the girl first, get to know her a bit, and try to make it more GFE.

If that's what you're looking for here's a protip: talk even to non-pros that are hanging around. You'll find, especially at casinos like the Veneto, there are gambling addicts that join in on the night life but aren't working. They tend to know the other girls and give you some useful information on what's going on.

More importantly, have fun. It's a mostly safe city with good infrastructure. It beats some other destinations.

Mellowg
08-18-15, 13:33
I know it is not about our sport but still.

If you are coming to Panama to do some gambling, please note that there is a new tax of 5. 0% imposed on all casino transactions.

IT is not only the winnings that are taxed, but all the money that goes through the cashier window. That it is in the form of chips, or of receipt from the one arm bandit, changing those to cash (fiat money) will cost you 5%.

So if you are really a cheap skate, you could offer to pay the provider with casino chip and get an automatic discount of the value of the tax.

Well. Death and Taxes.

Enjoy.

Mellow.

Seismo
08-20-15, 19:00
I checked some gambling sites that I read once in a while but did not see any reports of this casino tax.

I expect to be in Panama sometime in October so hopefully some other people will report back by then.

Several years ago the company that owned the sportsbook in the Veneto also had several other locations. They must have had a bad week so they decided to create an imaginary tax on winning tickets of 5%. The other three sportsbooks in the area did not have the same tax. Needless to say, I stopped betting there. After about a week they only enforced the collection to foreigners that they did not know.

I saw a poker room try the same tax routine and they lost their game to another casino who valued the players.

Be sure this is a valid legitimate tax before you pay it. Call the gaming commission if need be.

If this is for real, sports betting is not beatable if you give up 5% off the top. Neither is poker.

The team that runs the sportsbook in the new casino in the Hilton on Avenida Balboa is fairly honest and I would like to see if I can get someone to check with them and report back.

Also keep in mind that the casinos mostly lease out the sportsbooks and poker rooms. Some even lease out table games and only keep the slots for themselves. Generally the hotel leases out the casino to one group, who in turn leases out the parts the do not want to take the associted risk of running.

If this is a real govt imposed tax I do not see it lasting too long as it will cost the casinos way too much in lost revenues.

Thanks.

Mellowg
08-20-15, 22:43
As I said before seísmo this is a new tax, in force since the beginning of August.

You can see placards at all the cashiers of all the casinos.

That is is the Veneto, the trump, or the one beside Habanos.

Enjoy.

Mellow.

Mellowg
08-20-15, 22:53
According to the President of the Association of Managers of Gaming (ASAJA), Antonio Alfaro, new regulations stipulating a tax on cash withdrawals by customers in Panama's casinos, are now being plagued with a number of technical issues which make it almost impossibly to collect the tax.

Law 23 went into effect in May which applied a tax on cash withdrawals from casinos of 5. 5 per cent. However according to Mr. Alfaro those responsible for drafting the law were not aware of the intricacies behind the accounting procedures on casino floors. For Alfaro, errors in the regulation mean that the lawmakers responsible for drafting the document did not know how accounting management procedures of casino works. "The authorities should have asked what things could have been done and what couldn't have," he said.

However, Javier Said Acuña, Head of the Legal Department of the Directorate General of Revenue (DGI), said: "Casinos and slot halls know that the tax is fully in force and must collect it as established by law. ".

Mfins
08-21-15, 02:44
The tax on sportsbook winning tickets has been in place for years. It doesn't slow down any local sportsbook players.

The Tax on cash outs at the casino cage will also not slow down the casino at all.

No offense to the people of panama but, judging by how they play black jack, poker etc they could care less or do not pay attention to casino odds at all. They go against almost every statistical play. For small players which most are cashing out $50 or $100 will result in a very small tax. They do not look at the $5 the casino is taking they will look at the $95 they are winning. They do not understand that by giving the casino 5% kills there ability to win with any consistency.

American players tend to be more odds conciouss and it may effect casino tourism but, it will not effect in anyway the die hard Panamanian player.

What it will effect is speed of the game. When I sit down I usually change my cash into far more chips than I should need. I do this so I do not have to stop the action to continually get chips. Now there will be a huge disadvantage to buying more chips than you need in the beginning. Times this by 7 other people sitting at the table.

Mongmann
08-21-15, 18:35
Fellas, I'm looking at going over to Panama for a quick trip soon. I'm specifically into brown / caramel completed chicks with big bubble phat (not fat) asses that are real. These types would probably be described as black Panamanians. My question is how many of these typs are available? Are they all over the place or are they few and far between. I've mongered in a lot of places so I'm a pretty seasoned monger. I just want to know what I'm getting myself into. I see a lot of reports on Colombians who are not are ally my favorite. They seem to all have a ton of plastic surgery and are very business like which I don't like.

What do you guys think? Can I find black Panamanians with nice bubble phat asses pretty easily there? Or will it require a bit of work? Let me know what you think. Thanks!

Dickhead
08-22-15, 00:03
Fellas, I'm looking at going over to Panama for a quick trip soon. I'm specifically into brown / caramel completed chicks with big bubble phat (not fat) asses that are real. These types would probably be described as black Panamanians. My question is how many of these typs are available? Are they all over the place or are they few and far between. I've mongered in a lot of places so I'm a pretty seasoned monger. I just want to know what I'm getting myself into. I see a lot of reports on Colombians who are not are ally my favorite. They seem to all have a ton of plastic surgery and are very business like which I don't like.

What do you guys think? Can I find black Panamanians with nice bubble phat asses pretty easily there? Or will it require a bit of work? Let me know what you think. Thanks!For black chicas, go to Colón or elsewhere on the Atlantic side. But, one or two can always be found at Hábanos.

Dan D Dick
08-22-15, 00:17
The Tax on cash outs at the casino cage will also not slow down the casino at all.

Then I guess I'm an anomoly. This is my first trip to Panama where I haven't played Blackjack. Nor will I if there's an extra 5% to the house (or gov't). And, since BJ will be off the table, why visit PTY when there are so many other decent options in the same area? I typically visit PTY 5-6 times a year. Unfortunately that just came to an end. On the bright side, it'll give me more time to dig around San Jose, Managua, Medellin & Cali.

On another topic, I was told today by a friend who now works at the Veneto that they had some issues with the government. Apparently not paying taxes. Seems the (a?) prior manager is in jail on money laundering charges & the governement now owns both the hotel & casino. He's rather pissed because they deduct health insurance from his check but he doesn't get any. Something about paying back the money stolen from the gov't taxes.

On another subject. Habanos was packed last night around 9:45. All shapes & sizes, many excellent, some not so much.

/ dddick.

NCal2014
08-22-15, 01:32
Hey fellas looking for some quick info. Haven't been to PTY in about a year or so. Had a great time last time I had a layover. Doing it again this year in Nov on my way to CTG for a vacation with the novia from MDE. So I guess the Veneto is still in business. And the chica fee is approx $25 ? Correct? Looking for a nice hotel Marriott style type hotel really close walking distance to the Veneto. The rooms are super shitty there. Any recomendations. ? Otherwise will just stick to Veneto. Taxi rate- what is the rate for airport pick up and drop off from Veneto area to airport? Any help would be gladly appreciated. Will repost trip report with pics as always after my trip. Thanks fellas. Here's a couple pics from my last PTY layover enjoy.

Mfins
08-22-15, 04:09
Then I guess I'm an anomoly. This is my first trip to Panama where I haven't played Blackjack. Nor will I if there's an extra 5% to the house (or gov't). And, since BJ will be off the table, why visit PTY when there are so many other decent options in the same area? I typically visit PTY 5-6 times a year. Unfortunately that just came to an end. On the bright side, it'll give me more time to dig around San Jose, Managua, Medellin & Cali.

On another topic, I was told today by a friend who now works at the Veneto that they had some issues with the government. Apparently not paying taxes. Seems the (a?) prior manager is in jail on money laundering charges & the governement now owns both the hotel & casino. He's rather pissed because they deduct health insurance from his check but he doesn't get any. Something about paying back the money stolen from the gov't taxes.

On another subject. Habanos was packed last night around 9:45. All shapes & sizes, many excellent, some not so much.

/ dddick.Virtually all of the players in the casinos (other than Veneto) are locals. So it really will have no effect on business except for a few tourists like you and me.

One question, are they taking out the 5% on all chip transactions at the casino cage.

Meaning if I buy $1000 worth of chips at the table. Play one hand for $100 and push (tie). Get up and go the cage to cash out they will take $50 just to give me back cash for the chips even though I was only there 2 minutes and did not win or lose anything?

Or do they somehow have a way of tracking your winnings and are only taxing the winnings. (similar to what the sports book does).

Thanks-.

Lucky Nuts
08-22-15, 05:19
Hey fellas looking for some quick info. Haven't been to PTY in about a year or so. Had a great time last time I had a layover. Doing it again this year in Nov on my way to CTG for a vacation with the novia from MDE. So I guess the Veneto is still in business. And the chica fee is approx $25 ? Correct? Looking for a nice hotel Marriott style type hotel really close walking distance to the Veneto. The rooms are super shitty there. Any recomendations. ? Otherwise will just stick to Veneto. Taxi rate- what is the rate for airport pick up and drop off from Veneto area to airport? Any help would be gladly appreciated. Will repost trip report with pics as always after my trip. Thanks fellas. Here's a couple pics from my last PTY layover enjoy.I was in Panama last month. I don't stay at Veneto but asked about their chica fee and was told it's $43. I stayed at Hyatt Place which is closer to Habanos and I recommend it. It's about a ten minute walk to Veneto. Chica fee at Hyatt Place is only $15. Taxis will try to charge $30 to / from downtown to airport. But you can often find taxis upstairs at airport for $15 or $20 to downtown. From downtown you can probably arrange a taxi for $22 or $23 to airport.

Mellowg
08-22-15, 05:25
Meaning if I buy $1000 worth of chips at the table. Play one hand for $100 and push (tie). Get up and go the cage to cash out they will take $50 just to give me back cash for the chips even though I was only there 2 minutes and did not win or lose anything?
.You got it.

The tax is on cashier transactions from chips to fiat money.

Mongmann
08-22-15, 05:41
For black chicas, go to Coln or elsewhere on the Atlantic side. But, one or two can always be found at Hbanos.Thanks! I appreciate he help.

Dickhead
08-22-15, 14:12
Looking for a nice hotel Marriott style type hotel really close walking distance to the Veneto. I would recommend Hotel Continental but try to get a room in the back away from the street. Taxi to airport $25-$30.

YippieKayay
08-24-15, 20:38
Fellas, I'm looking at going over to Panama for a quick trip soon. I'm specifically into brown / caramel completed chicks with big bubble phat (not fat) asses that are real. These types would probably be described as black Panamanians. My question is how many of these typs are available? Are they all over the place or are they few and far between. I've mongered in a lot of places so I'm a pretty seasoned monger. I just want to know what I'm getting myself into. I see a lot of reports on Colombians who are not are ally my favorite. They seem to all have a ton of plastic surgery and are very business like which I don't like.

What do you guys think? Can I find black Panamanians with nice bubble phat asses pretty easily there? Or will it require a bit of work? Let me know what you think. Thanks!Someone else already mentioned Colon and the northern areas but from what I hear Colon is not nearly as safe as Panama City, and areas like Bocas del Toro are full of hippie backpackers and tourists -- not really a mongering spot.

Let us know what you find though. I got back from Puerto Rico on a non-mongering trip and the black Puerto Rico ladies drove me nuts. They especially have a bit of an obesity problem in PR so some of these girls looked really unique compared to other parts in the Caribbean. I'd love to find the equivalent in PC.

Dickhead
08-24-15, 21:20
Someone else already mentioned Colon and the northern areas but from what I hear Colon is not nearly as safe as Panama City, and areas like Bocas del Toro are full of hippie backpackers and tourists -- not really a mongering spot.

Let us know what you find though. I got back from Puerto Rico on a non-mongering trip and the black Puerto Rico ladies drove me nuts. They especially have a bit of an obesity problem in PR so some of these girls looked really unique compared to other parts in the Caribbean. I'd love to find the equivalent in PC.Not only is Colón 'not as safe as Panamá City,' it is dangerous as fuck, a real shit hole. Bocas del Toro is very dangerous as well. It has a heroin problem and there are street rats everywhere. They will say things like, 'if you won't buy my dope, I have cop friends who will plant it on you and shake you down.' A lot of drug tourism there.

Tp Horn
08-25-15, 15:01
I'm specifically into brown / caramel completed chicks with big bubble phat (not fat) asses that are real. Can I find black Panamanians with nice bubble phat asses pretty easily there? Or will it require a bit of work? Let me know what you think. Thanks!The average panamanian female in Panama City fits into the brown / caramel category, but they range widely. But like others write, one doesn't find many panamanian pros in the typical spots. If you got game, go walk around Albrook Mall or Multiplaza some weekend and you'll find all the non-pros you can handle. Even better, Avenida Central.

TripAdvisor15
08-26-15, 17:26
Anyone knows if this hotel is chica friendly? Also how far is it from Habanos?

https://www.travelocity.com/Panama-Hotels-BlueBay-City-Panama.h9251096.Hotel-Information?chkin=09/20/2015&chkout=09/23/2015&rm1=a2&hwrqCacheKey=fafc1842-9abb-4603-a9df-9eb71786a4d7HWRQ1440599982660&c=0cdf46d1-61a1-49a2-aca2-1c8a69b466ca&&price=86&ts=1440599985522

TripAdvisor15
08-26-15, 17:42
Any one knows if this hotel is Chica friendly and how far is it from Habanos?

https://www.travelocity.com/Panama-Hotels-BlueBay-City-Panama.h9251096.Hotel-Information?chkin=09/20/2015&chkout=09/23/2015&rm1=a2&hwrqCacheKey=fafc1842-9abb-4603-a9df-9eb71786a4d7HWRQ1440599982660&c=0cdf46d1-61a1-49a2-aca2-1c8a69b466ca&&price=86&ts=1440599985522

Red Legend
08-26-15, 18:11
Hi,

I'll in Panama for 24 hours from tomorrow lunchtime. I've RTFF and I don't see any reports or recommendations on anything in the Casco Viejo area? Have I picked the wrong part of town to get lucky. And should I cab it to Veneto and Habanos. Or are there any secret gems in Casco Viejo?

Cheers,

Red

Lee
08-26-15, 22:26
Hi,

I'll in Panama for 24 hours from tomorrow lunchtime. I've RTFF and I don't see any reports or recommendations on anything in the Casco Viejo area? Have I picked the wrong part of town to get lucky. And should I cab it to Veneto and Habanos. Or are there any secret gems in Casco Viejo?

Cheers,

RedThere was a great selection at Habanos last night (08/25/2015).

Lee.

Wrong Places
08-27-15, 15:40
Hi,

I'll in Panama for 24 hours from tomorrow lunchtime. I've RTFF and I don't see any reports or recommendations on anything in the Casco Viejo area? Have I picked the wrong part of town to get lucky. And should I cab it to Veneto and Habanos. Or are there any secret gems in Casco Viejo?

Cheers,

RedBocatoreno is right on the edge of Casco. Check it out. If you find no one of interest, a cab should be $4-5 and ask for the Marriott, not Habanos.

Red Legend
08-28-15, 15:05
Hi,

I'll in Panama for 24 hours from tomorrow lunchtime. I've RTFF and I don't see any reports or recommendations on anything in the Casco Viejo area? Have I picked the wrong part of town to get lucky. And should I cab it to Veneto and Habanos. Or are there any secret gems in Casco Viejo?

Cheers,

RedOnly fair since I asked the question to attempt to answer it as I leave Panama.

Casco Viejo is a really cool area, with lots of late night bars and restaurants. And easy to walk around. There are plenty of tourist and local options for those who want to put in the hard work to chat them up. I usually don't!

There are two spots about 5 minutes walk, La Mayor and La Bocatoreña (as mentioned below by Wrong Places). Neither are for the faint hearted. But both are full of chicas!

I first went to La Mayor, a strip club, with what looked like rooms at the back, and full of perfectly acceptable options, but I had a little incident that led me to leave. I was chatting away to a lovely Colombian babe at the bar, when the girl behind me suddenly "collapsed to the floor" obviously causing me to turn around. As I looked back it seemed to me that my chica's hand was returning to her side from directly above my drink! Now I didn't actually see her drop anything into my drink, but when she asked me if I'd buy her one. I offered her the rest of mine and she looked shocked and flat out refused I decided that La Mayor wasn't the right place at the right time for me so left. But I'd certainly say it was worth another visit, especially if you speak Spanish (I don't).

I then popped in next door to La Bocatoreña, now this is really not a place for beginners and if you don't speak Spanish or look like you do, then you have to brass it out and look like you belong. Approx. 80 chicas when I was there and a very lovely dusky Dominican girl looked after me for the princely sum of $20 !! Rooms in the back are not plush, and they don't like you hanging around for more than 10-15 minutes, but if you are fond of an adventure, and want to keep Casco Viejo within a 5 minute walk, I'd pop in for a quickie and straight back out again. In fact I did later that evening as well) I live in Asia and have seen some dodgy places. But this one was certainly in the Top 5 dodgy establishments. But for 20 bucks and with all those Latin curves. Who's complaining.

Next stop Hong Kong for a Sunday afternoon stroll with the Filipinos and Indonesians!

Cheers,

Red

DarkSide99
08-28-15, 23:20
Any update on the chica fee at Veneto?

What are our options? Anyone know of any condos for rent in the same area as Veneto or Habanos?

YippieKayay
08-29-15, 01:59
I first went to La Mayor, a strip club, with what looked like rooms at the back, and full of perfectly acceptable options, but I had a little incident that led me to leave. I was chatting away to a lovely Colombian babe at the bar, when the girl behind me suddenly "collapsed to the floor" obviously causing me to turn around. As I looked back it seemed to me that my chica's hand was returning to her side from directly above my drink! Now I didn't actually see her drop anything into my drink, but when she asked me if I'd buy her one. I offered her the rest of mine and she looked shocked and flat out refused I decided that La Mayor wasn't the right place at the right time for me so left. But I'd certainly say it was worth another visit, especially if you speak Spanish (I don't).
Wow! Thanks for telling us. Now, I wonder what they would have done if you did pass out. It's a public place isn't it? Plenty of other customers around. I bet they quickly take you in the back, rob you and dump you out somewhere. Sheesh!

OK so here's a story for my first visit in PC. Literally the first couple of hours after I got to the Veneto:

I had just arrived, and did the unpack, shit, shower and shave thing. It was 4 in the afternoon and I headed down to the blackjack tables. There was this short curvy Panamanian in her early twenties sitting there at a table playing blackjack, along with some other locals. They were all being friendly but I knew that at some point someone would try to hustle me. In any case, the waitress came around and I nodded to her so she served me a 'vodka' drink. That shit was nasty but I was a little anxious and whorney so I drank more of it. I started chatting up the chica and casually mentioned I was going up to my room in a bit to, uh, get something. She smiled at me so I told her she could come up with me.

Next thing I know I'm flat on my back, my pants are down and I'm telling this girl to turn around as she rides me cowgirl. The vodka was so nasty I felt drugged. It didn't take me long to finish. I paid her $60 and later that night called her and took her to Manolos. Cute girl. I never saw her again though.

I'm heading to PC next Friday the 4th for a solid 10 days. Going to stick to the Veneto, Habanos, Ashe circuit and see how things go. Will probably visit the islands off of PC (Tobago and Pearl Islands). Hoping I luck out like last time. I want to do a few chicks early on but then settle one that I like and essentially rent-a-girlfriend for the rest of my stay.

Lee
08-29-15, 05:43
Any update on the chica fee at Veneto?

What are our options? Anyone know of any condos for rent in the same area as Veneto or Habanos?Take a look at Coral Suites. It is just down the street from the Veneto.

As advertised: by that I mean the website is accurate.

Girl friendly. I've been here three nights and each night I brought a girl home.

They make a copy of her ID and say thank you. And under three miniature in the elevator.

Would suggest you register for two people in the room.

Can verify that the Veneto has a $43.00 fee.

Lee.

DarkSide99
08-29-15, 08:04
Take a look at Coral Suites. It is just down the street from the Veneto.

As advertised: by that I mean the website is accurate.

Girl friendly. I've been here three nights and each night I brought a girl home.

They make a copy of her ID and say thank you. And under three miniature in the elevator.

Would suggest you register for two people in the room.

Can verify that the Veneto has a $43.00 fee.


Lee.Hi,

When was the last time you stayed at coral suites?

It seems like a good option.

I'm still trying to find a condo for rent in El Cangrejo.

Lee
08-29-15, 14:32
Hi,

When was the last time you stayed at coral suites?

It seems like a good option.

I'm still trying to find a condo for rent in El Cangrejo.I am there now.

NCal2014
08-29-15, 16:22
Good info on Hotel Coral Suites. Quick quedtion how far is the veneto from Habanos?

Lee
08-29-15, 16:32
Good info on Hotel Coral Suites. Quick quedtion how far is the veneto from Habanos?In reality it's only two blocks but they're pretty big blocks. A 5 minute walk. Which I have done as late as 10:30 PM.

The taxi ride back with the evening entertainment would be 6 to 10 dollars.

Lee.

YippieKayay
08-29-15, 18:07
Hi,

I'm still trying to find a condo for rent in El Cangrejo.I could never find one. I did find plenty of condos by the waterfront, etc.

According to this report the Hyatt is just down the street from Habanos and has a $15 chica fee. I'm going to be arriving there next weekend.

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?1894-Panama-City&p=1748500&viewfull=1#post1748500

Dickhead
08-29-15, 19:59
In reality it's only two blocks but they're pretty big blocks. A 5 minute walk. Which I have done as late as 10:30 PM.

The taxi ride back with the evening entertainment would be 6 to 10 dollars.

Lee.Back in early May or late April I even counted how many steps it was, and posted that. But don't get me started about the taxi fare.

GeechieBoy
08-29-15, 22:23
Hello all,

I will be in PC from Fri-Mon and was wondering what you all would recommend for good daytime action.

I will certainly provide a full report upon my return!

Cheers!

TripAdvisor15
08-30-15, 19:58
Just take numbers from the night before! You are set!

DuckmanII
09-01-15, 01:00
Are they still charging a chica fee at the Veneto. I booked a room for the weekend. Should have RTFF be I did. Guess its to late to worry about it now. Was wondering if you use the elevator down stairs in front of the sushi bar if they will still charge the fee. Will have to walk by the front desk so will probably still have to pay the fee. 40 dollars is a high tax to pay. Is that every time you take a girl up? Usually like to have 3 a night.

MarianoRiv
09-01-15, 08:24
Hi all, I was just in PTY for 7 days. I enjoyed it. Here is some info from my experience. I stayed all 7 nights at the Trump, but this was because I got a good deal there ($58/ night) thanks to a mistake by Orbitz. They screwed up and offered the wrong rate on their website (they had it confused with a hotel in Poland), and I booked the Trump at that rate. And, to the credit of Orbitz, they honored the reservation and paid the difference in price! So I guess my first suggestion is to check Orbitz to see if they have any weird price discrepancies, like offering $180 rooms for $58! But I realize this is rare -- in fact, that's probably the only time I've seen something mispriced like that.

I did go to the fish market to eat ceviche, followed by a walk to Boca Torena and Interiores (next door) almost every day. Good stuff. My favorite day was the one where I got there at 11 am when they opened. No guys inside, but some cute Colombianas. So there's an idea that I haven't seen posted yet. Go to Boca Torena early for first crack at the chicas.

I should comment on the Trump property. I really liked it. Very nice! Totally chica-friendly, no fees, no security guard, or anything. The reason why it's lax is that you take the ground floor elevator up to the "SL" ("Sky Lobby" on the 15th floor) and then you transfer to the elevators that go up to the rooms. And no one is in sight. So that's good. I did get burned by a chica there, though. She took it upon herself to open up and pour some drinks from some bottles from the hotel room's minibar (including a $60 bottle of Grey Goose vodka) so I got hammered on that expense! She was from Ashe Discoteca. She's from Venezuela, and so sexy and so stacked, too (natural tits). But she is a real ho, like she asked if she could have a bottle of Scotch from the minibar (priced at $75), so you do got to keep an eye on her. Haha! But to her credit, she did want to come back the next day and hang out, and go out to the swimming pool and stuff, so maybe she might be good for a few days or a week, a GFE. I can't really say.

Veneto seems pretty similar to when I was there last year. I did take a chica from there back to Trump, one of the Colombianas I knew from last year. She said it's a $40 chica fee at Veneto now. She asked for $100, which is what she asked for last year. I'm sorry I don't have an accurate idea of what chicas at Habanos want nowadays, since I didn't go there this time around. I know, that's kind of weird, since I was there for a week! (I kind of got sidetracked by the idea of buying a condo down there, and I actually toured some with a representative from Punta Pacifica Realty, which is very close to Trump Hotel.).

Oh hey, there are some chicas in the Trump building. Check out the casino there, the Ocean Sun Casino. I did meet one there and took her upstairs. She settled for $100, but wanted more, of course. She was a Panamanian, but I saw Colombian chicas there, too.

That 5. 5% tax on chips and slots tickets is real. I saw the little placard at the cashier cage. And I cashed out a slot ticket for about $6 (That Trump casino gives you $10 of free slot play for signing up for their player's card), and did take the 5. 5% hit on it. The only casino thing I saw that I thought was interesting was a $200,000 poker tournament at the Ocean Sun casino, but even that has a $500 buy-in, plus the big thing is: Who knows how many players will show up?! There might be tons of players that show up from North and South America!

Any questions, please ask, thanks.

PervDrj
09-01-15, 20:43
I love reading all of your posts and flame wars regarding taxi fares. Like everyone here says the taxis are horrible, they overcharge, they text and drive, or are just horrible drivers in general. I don't take them anymore except when I am wasted. Is it worth fighting over a dollar? I don't know. I live close to the fish market (la Mayor, Boca) and visit there on occasion. Everything said here is true. But it is safe. It smells. Most of the women are 5's or below, but you do find some nice talent there too. I also like to go to the Veneto but I rarely pick up women from there. I just like to play in the casino and watch all the action. I have not been to Habanos, but would love to go.

Normal pay days here in panama are the 15th and the 30th or around there. These days are packed at the fish market. Sometimes there are more choices because the putas come out when there is more money around, but often there are too many men for the women so I don't normally shop for anything around these days. That includes going to the markets or banks. Just full of people everywhere.

The map is awesome by the way. I never realized there was a MP right by my house I will have to check out Hawai some time this week. I will post my experience.

I would love to meet up with some mongers. Going solo is never as fun. Setting up a meet up would be awesome if anyone is down. Let me know.

Wrong Places
09-02-15, 03:23
I love reading all of your posts and flame wars regarding taxi fares. Like everyone here says the taxis are horrible, they overcharge, they text and drive, or are just horrible drivers in general. I don't take them anymore except when I am wasted. Is it worth fighting over a dollar? I don't know. I live close to the fish market (la Mayor, Boca) and visit there on occasion. Everything said here is true. But it is safe. It smells. Most of the women are 5's or below, but you do find some nice talent there too. I also like to go to the Veneto but I rarely pick up women from there. I just like to play in the casino and watch all the action. I have not been to Habanos, but would love to go.

Normal pay days here in panama are the 15th and the 30th or around there. These days are packed at the fish market. Sometimes there are more choices because the putas come out when there is more money around, but often there are too many men for the women so I don't normally shop for anything around these days. That includes going to the markets or banks. Just full of people everywhere.

The map is awesome by the way. I never realized there was a MP right by my house I will have to check out Hawai some time this week. I will post my experience.

I would love to meet up with some mongers. Going solo is never as fun. Setting up a meet up would be awesome if anyone is down. Let me know.I'll give you the same advice I recently received here. Pay Jackson the $20 so you can get and send PMs. No one in their right mind would set up a meet on a public board like this.

YippieKayay
09-05-15, 01:54
Just got into PC this afternoon. Staying at the Hyatt. It's chica friendly, up the street from Habanos and about a block from the Veneto. I went by Veneto at around 6 pm and despite the early hour there were working girls around. Not many though.

Habanos looked dead but I went by around 8. I am fucking tired from the flight so I will likely do one more walk by Habanos and call it a night. I wouldn't mind a blow and go if it came with a good massage.

TripAdvisor15
09-05-15, 17:58
Did they ask for guest name upon check in? Were you required to pay for chica fee on your first return?

DuckmanII
09-05-15, 19:10
Flew into PTY on Thursday. Was denied entry. If you have any kind of a criminal record you will be denied entry. I have been to panama over 10 times and never had a problem. It seems they are now checking everyone's record. They were waiting on my when I got off the plane. Does not matter what the offense is or how long ago it was. Had to sit in in the customs holding area for 14 hours till the next flight left the next morning. Guess I will scratch Panama off my vacation list. Guess I will try Costa Rica. Will do some research before I book. The USA Is now sharing all information with all country's. I would understand if it was serious crime or a felony. I well Panamas loss. No more of my money will they get. Just a heads up guys.

YippieKayay
09-06-15, 00:26
Did they ask for guest name upon check in? Were you required to pay for chica fee on your first return?Its a 15 dollar fee per guest. You just walk over and they register her. No need to do anything else.

GeechieBoy
09-07-15, 09:44
Just spent 4 nights in the city. Stayed at Hyatt Place hotel. Great hotel for the money. 87 $/ night, NO chica fee. They have done away with that. Walking distance to Habanos, Veneto, LE Palace, and Elite. The staff was extremely friendly and no problems bringing girls tho the room at all. My only complaint is the comp breakfast kinda sucks.

Just for clarification-this is my 2nd trip here- I speak very little Spanish. Basically just enough to get by.

I went on a tour of the following places:

- Habanos- full of hotties, mostly from Medellin and Cali, typical price asked is 200 $, negotiating to 150 $ was easy. Pulled 3 from here and had a great time with all. DATY, DFK, multiple positions, are all on the table but YMMV.

- Veneto- I personally had the best time here. I like casino action, the girls that would be considered 8's, 9's, and 10's are not as plentiful here-but they are there! If you go to Veneto and hang out they will pop up throughout the night. My best 2 experiences came from Veneto.

-LE Palace- I did not pull anything here. Girls are super hot but 350-400 $ to get action here. I just browsed and left. Equally hot girls are at Habanos all the time.

-Golden Fingers- near the Eldorado Bowling alley, I checked the line up -- only 4 girls nothing great -- 135+ tip, I left without partaking.

-Capri in Rio Abajo, 25 $ will get you 15 min, a few girls, I just looked and left, nothing special here, kind of a shitty place actually.

-Grut Azul in Rio Abajo, same as Capri- nothing special -- I just browsed and left.

-Golden Time on Tumba Muerto-- Nice lineup of girls maybe 20- 120 $ HR + tip, great time here- all inclusive and very worthwhile.

-La Gloria-- same as Capri and Grut Azul-- shitty -- few girls and crappy porn playing on TVs -- weird place.

- LOS Anos Locos-- again really shitty -- nothing here worth mentioning except a lot better places around.

-Bocatorena- OMFG-- I actually love this place-- its not for the faint of heart-- really geared for the locals more than gringos, tons of girls early in day- tons of local, the place smells shitty -- but I had a great time going in and out of here a couple of times, I finally picked a girl, you take here to one of the provided rooms 15 $ for 15 min, kinda creepy and dirty place but both girls were super nice and I had fun trying this place out. I think the girls will happily go to your hotel if you prefer. As I mentioned before- my Spanish is bad- but I was fine in this place-- I never felt unsafe or threatened.

-LE Mayor- next door to Bocatorenea -- It was really empty every time I stuck my head in-- It was earlier in the day however.

Ok that basically sums up my trip. I am concerned about the news that Panama immigration is kicking out convicted felons-- I have something old on my own record that would keep me out if they decided to check-- anyone else have info on this?

TripAdvisor15
09-07-15, 18:46
Just spent 4 nights in the city. Stayed at Hyatt Place hotel. Great hotel for the money. 87 $/ night, NO chica fee. They have done away with that. Walking distance to Habanos, Veneto, LE Palace, and Elite. The staff was extremely friendly and no problems bringing girls tho the room at all. My only complaint is the comp breakfast kinda sucks.

Just for clarification-this is my 2nd trip here- I speak very little Spanish. Basically just enough to get by.

I went on a tour of the following places:

- Habanos- full of hotties, mostly from Medellin and Cali, typical price asked is 200 $, negotiating to 150 $ was easy. Pulled 3 from here and had a great time with all. DATY, DFK, multiple positions, are all on the table but YMMV.

- Veneto- I personally had the best time here. I like casino action, the girls that would be considered 8's, 9's, and 10's are not as plentiful here-but they are there! If you go to Veneto and hang out they will pop up throughout the night. My best 2 experiences came from Veneto.

-LE Palace- I did not pull anything here. Girls are super hot but 350-400 $ to get action here. I just browsed and left. Equally hot girls are at Habanos all the time.

-Golden Fingers- near the Eldorado Bowling alley, I checked the line up -- only 4 girls nothing great -- 135+ tip, I left without partaking.

-Capri in Rio Abajo, 25 $ will get you 15 min, a few girls, I just looked and left, nothing special here, kind of a shitty place actually.

-Grut Azul in Rio Abajo, same as Capri- nothing special -- I just browsed and left.

-Golden Time on Tumba Muerto-- Nice lineup of girls maybe 20- 120 $ HR + tip, great time here- all inclusive and very worthwhile...The prices you quoted for Habanos and LE Palace was for TLN?

DuckmanII
09-07-15, 20:04
Just spent 4 nights in the city. Stayed at Hyatt Place hotel. Great hotel for the money. 87 $/ night, NO chica fee. They have done away with that. Walking distance to Habanos, Veneto, LE Palace, and Elite. The staff was extremely friendly and no problems bringing girls tho the room at all. My only complaint is the comp breakfast kinda sucks.

Just for clarification-this is my 2nd trip here- I speak very little Spanish. Basically just enough to get by.

I went on a tour of the following places:

- Habanos- full of hotties, mostly from Medellin and Cali, typical price asked is 200 $, negotiating to 150 $ was easy. Pulled 3 from here and had a great time with all. DATY, DFK, multiple positions, are all on the table but YMMV.

- Veneto- I personally had the best time here. I like casino action, the girls that would be considered 8's, 9's, and 10's are not as plentiful here-but they are there! If you go to Veneto and hang out they will pop up throughout the night. My best 2 experiences came from Veneto.

-LE Palace- I did not pull anything here. Girls are super hot but 350-400 $ to get action here. I just browsed and left. Equally hot girls are at Habanos all the time.

-Golden Fingers- near the Eldorado Bowling alley, I checked the line up -- only 4 girls nothing great -- 135+ tip, I left without partaking.

-Capri in Rio Abajo, 25 $ will get you 15 min, a few girls, I just looked and left, nothing special here, kind of a shitty place actually.

-Grut Azul in Rio Abajo, same as Capri- nothing special -- I just browsed and left.Panama is now stopping people from entering if you have a criminal record. I have a couple of mistermenors and was denied access poss of Mary Jane and a DUI. It's doesn't have to be a felony. There were 6 other guys in the holding area the night I flew in. I wrote a letter to the Panama embassy in DC. To get clarification. Will post if they respond.

Mfins
09-08-15, 02:05
Flew into PTY on Thursday. Was denied entry. If you have any kind of a criminal record you will be denied entry. I have been to panama over 10 times and never had a problem. It seems they are now checking everyone's record. They were waiting on my when I got off the plane. Does not matter what the offense is or how long ago it was. Had to sit in in the customs holding area for 14 hours till the next flight left the next morning. Guess I will scratch Panama off my vacation list. Guess I will try Costa Rica. Will do some research before I book. The USA Is now sharing all information with all country's. I would understand if it was serious crime or a felony. I well Panamas loss. No more of my money will they get. Just a heads up guys.Thats a real shame. Canada does the same thing and more and more countries are doing this. If the crime you were convicted of happened more than a certain number of years ago you can apply for some type of exemption or pardon from the Panamanian govt. So that you can travel there freely again. Its not an easy process though. I'm wondering if this was a random check. I'm assuming they can't check everyone but, of course why risk it.

Imagine a family traveling there for vacation and the dad 20 years ago was arrested for smoking a joint or something. They are going to deny him, embarass him in front of his wife and kids and kick him out. Its a terrible rule.

Mfins
09-08-15, 02:09
Panama is now stopping people from entering if you have a criminal record. I have a couple of mistermenors and was denied access poss of Mary Jane and a DUI. It's doesn't have to be a felony. There were 6 other guys in the holding area the night I flew in. I wrote a letter to the Panama embassy in DC. To get clarification. Will post if they respond.One other thing Panama is a huge airport for connections. It is copa's hub. I'm assuming if you have an onward ticket to somewhere else they won't stop you but, again that can get confusing.

Were all of the other people in the holding cell with you American?

YippieKayay
09-08-15, 16:58
The chicas in Habanos seem to start at 150 for an hour. You can negotiate them down to 100. If its later in the night they do go for less since many of them don't see action all night sometimes.

I arrived Friday and am up to 3 chicas. Staying until Sunday. A whole 10 days.

* First one in Habanos. I was just browsing at around 8:30 pm and by 9 spotted a chica coming down from the second floor which I am told is 'Habaticion' Despite eyeing her for a while she stopped by another table trying to pick a guy up and then came by my table. She looked tired and went into a practiced conversation. I was whorney as fuck so I bought her a drink, agreed to 150 and took her back to the hotel. We banged for a couple of hours. I gave her 50 more and we parted ways. Honestly she did a good job and I was so tired from the flight.

* The next morning I went to the Veneto in the morning. Its hot as balls here and not much to do during the day other than gamble. Started playing and racked up 300 in winnings. Pleased with myself I cashed out but not before exchanging jokes with a Panamanian chica. A few minutes later I am at the bar having a beer and she joins me. Fuck it a couple of beers later I get her in a cab back to the Hyatt and we have lunch, shower and siesta. I wake up around 4 pm and go to pound town. I give her 150 and we exchange numbers. Not a bad lay but I am looking for more.

* 9 pm, I am having my first beer at Habanos. I am getting a little depressed with how I am not really connecting with anyone. Fucking is nice but I'd like just a little more. Even if its temporary -- a bit of GFE you know?

Well shit. I look at two chicas to the right of me who are grinning ear to ear. One of them just stands out. Exact body type I want, skin tone and eyes to die for. We have a couple of drinks and she offers 2 hours for 200. I pop her in a cab and my raging cock and me are heading to the hotel.

Pure bliss. We fucked for 2 hours straight with only a couple of short breaks. I got her number and hit the sack. Txted her the next day for a repeat. I brought up some beer and a fruit salad too. We fucked and then watched some tv.

This is when things changed a bit. I put 200 on the nightstand and she looked at the money and me with a thoughtful look. She asks if I want to go see a movie with her.

Since then she has been dropping by every day. She hasn't asked for money up front, but I did offer her 200 to help with her rent this month which she took. I guess I didn't want her going to Habanos to work it off. We've been checking out PC, eating out, taking walks and shooting the shit.

My Spanish is improving thanks to her and her English thanks to my help. Yesterday night I just straight up asked her why she even works at Habanos. She's 26, has a university degree and takes English classes 3 days a week. She mentioned her student debt was pretty high. Then later said she'd quit and find a normal job.

I hope she does. She's single, no kids, doesn't gamble or even drink much. In the meantime I booked a resort for the weekend and she said she would just spend the entire week with me.

Exactly what I'm looking for. .

BabyHurricane
09-08-15, 17:12
Thats a real shame. Canada does the same thing and more and more countries are doing this. If the crime you were convicted of happened more than a certain number of years ago you can apply for some type of exemption or pardon from the Panamanian govt. So that you can travel there freely again. Its not an easy process though. I'm wondering if this was a random check. I'm assuming they can't check everyone but, of course why risk it.

Imagine a family traveling there for vacation and the dad 20 years ago was arrested for smoking a joint or something. They are going to deny him, embarass him in front of his wife and kids and kick him out. Its a terrible rule.I'm one of those guys who got into trouble in college for smoking a maryjane. Was doing a connection through the USA customs took me to a room and finger-printed, and took my mugshot. When I objected, U. S customs told me I have no rights and they can do whatever they please.

DarkSide99
09-08-15, 18:03
Hey GeechieBoy,

Does the Hyatt still ask for the chicas ID?

GeechieBoy
09-08-15, 19:29
The prices you quoted for Habanos and LE Palace was for TLN?I almost never do TLN with girls I just met. So the answer is no -- the prices were for 1-2 HR visits.

GeechieBoy
09-08-15, 19:33
Did they ask for guest name upon check in? Were you required to pay for chica fee on your first return?I walked in and out with a bunch of girls. I was only asked to register one of them. The staff basically just looks the other way. Hyatt Place hotel has also totally done away with the 15 $ chica fee.

If I ever go back to Panama- I would stay at Hyatt. On the other hand-I would not even stop to [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) on the Hard Rock if it were on fire. Fuck that place! 105 $ chica fee and a bunch of rude assholes running the hotel.

DarkSide99
09-09-15, 03:42
I almost never do TLN with girls I just met. So the answer is no -- the prices were for 1-2 HR visits.Thanks for the help.

I have to know decide between the Hyatt and Coral suites.

Lucky Nuts
09-09-15, 15:44
Thanks for the help.

I have to know decide between the Hyatt and Coral suites.I've stayed at both recently. Coral Suites is a few bucks cheaper and a little closer to Veneto. No extra cost for the first chica if you made reservation for two adults. It's about 25 bucks for new chica later that day or second day. So would add up to same cost of Hyatt Place which is a very nice and newer hotel with great employees. Regarding TLN the going rate is $200. Not every single chica is willing to stay overnight however so will only want to do short time for $100. I've had less attractive girls drop to $80 or $70 as the place empties out but personally I'm not interested in that class of chicas. I've had super hot chicas refuse $100 and one even refused $150. Although I did notice her looking for me later that night after I had found a suitable replacement LOL.

Lee
09-09-15, 16:35
I've stayed at both recently. Coral Suites is a few bucks cheaper and a little closer to Veneto. No extra cost for the first chica if you made reservation for two adults. It's about 25 bucks for new chica later that day or second day. So would add up to same cost of Hyatt Place which is a very nice and newer hotel with great employees. Regarding TLN the going rate is $200. Not every single chica is willing to stay overnight however so will only want to do short time for $100. I've had less attractive girls drop to $80 or $70 as the place empties out but personally I'm not interested in that class of chicas. I've had super hot chicas refuse $100 and one even refused $150. Although I did notice her looking for me later that night after I had found a suitable replacement LOL.As we all know things are constantly changing. My experience at the Corel suites end of August 1st part of September. I registered for two people may contribute to my experience. Other than making a copy of the ladies ID no problem no cost. Once they have a copy of the ladies ID she can come and go as she places. I brought in multiple girls over my stay. No cost.

Lee.

Lucky Nuts
09-09-15, 23:40
As we all know things are constantly changing. My experience at the Corel suites end of August 1st part of September. I registered for two people may contribute to my experience. Other than making a copy of the ladies ID no problem no cost. Once they have a copy of the ladies ID she can come and go as she places. I brought in multiple girls over my stay. No cost.

Lee.Thanks for the recent info Lee. That's great if no chica fees at Coral now. I didn't try to bring a second chica there for the one night I stayed so I didn't pay a fee either. Did you ever try to bring in more than one chica per day there? Did you need to register all the chicas at the front desk?

Lee
09-10-15, 03:14
Thanks for the recent info Lee. That's great if no chica fees at Coral now. I didn't try to bring a second chica there for the one night I stayed so I didn't pay a fee either. Did you ever try to bring in more than one chica per day there? Did you need to register all the chicas at the front desk?No I did not bring back more than one girl a day. One lady I brought back more than once the second day she did not need to register. Each girl must register registration consist of nothing more than making a copy of her ID.

Lee.

Wrong Places
09-10-15, 04:35
If you're looking for another report about fabulous experience with a 9 pulled out of Habanos, hold on a day or so and I'll give you a report about a non-fabulous experience with a 9 pulled out of Habanos. Along with some reports about satisfying times with girls from Backpage and Bocatorena.

If Bocatorena makes your palms sweat because you think it's dangerous or dirty or just too local, read on to someone else's report about his fabulous experience with a 9 pulled out of Habanos. And notice that no one ever seems to have names or digits to give up for these fabulous 9's. But, if you enjoy the sights, smells and sounds of truly locals-only, low-rent mongering experiences, read on as I've found one to the max in PC.

The place is best described as a hooker apartment house and I'll call it Dynasty as that's the name painted on the building who knows how many years and purposes ago. It's in the Plaza Cinco de Mayo and is serviced by the Plaza Cinco de Mayo Metro stop. Taking the subway to a cheap venue is, by the way, the epitome of low rent mongering.

The place was discovered by my PC-based friend who is a Spanish-fluent blonde-haired gringo. He was taken there a couple of years ago by his married Colombiana girlfriend for a late night drinking session with her working girl friends. He said the girls were friendly enough but the place was foreboding with locked doors, stairwells for toilets and not completely friendly local guys. For me, the perfect place for an adventure.

Looking at the photo, the entrance is an unmarked stairway at the bottom of the vertical yellow stripe. Look for the faded Joyeria awning on the far left side of the photo. We first showed up at about 10:00 on Friday night and were told that it's only open from 8:00 am to 8:00 pm. So we appeared again mid-afternoon on Saturday.

As we started up the stairs to the first floor, I commented that it sounded like a lot of people up there. I was right, the place was like a block party for hookers, clients and people wandering off the street for the party. Inside it's a half oval with open air hallways or walkways overlooking an open courtyard. If you have a really vivid imagination, think of a bacchanalian HoJo with walkways filled with hookers and clients overlooking the pool. There are 10 or 12 apartments on each of three floors. Each apartment had, I would guess, 4 to 8 girls working out of it. Each apartment has a steel bar security door outside of a regular wooden door. On Saturday, all of the security doors were open whereas they were closed and locked when my friend visited two years ago.

One of my major complaints about Boca, and even the high end places, is that few of the girls bother to even fake appearing happy to be there. This place was different, it really was like a hooker block party. Music coming out of various apartments, occasionally overlaid with rhythmic moaning or outright screaming. Girls eating and drinking, dancing, hanging around their own apartments accosting potential clients and walking around. Guys wandering around eyeing the girls. A truly upbeat party atmosphere on a rainy Saturday afternoon.

Needless to say, we were the only gringos in the place, possibly the only gringos since my friend was there before. But we were welcomed by many of the girls with open arms and legs. I don't know how many times we were stopped and propositioned by the girls as we wandered down the walkways. The most negative reaction was from the girls who simply ignored us. The Panamanians clients were friendly enough too with several talking to my friend and nothing negative.

The girls, you ask? Think of the mix of girls at Bocatorena and you'll have it. Probably some of the same girls working here during the day and at Boca in the evenings. Obviously no 20 year old 9's but variety for pretty much any other taste. No one particularly tickled my fancy although several did molest various body parts. Since I decided to have the full experience, I settled on a younger petite girl but was foiled when she was snatched away in front of my eyes and I didn't want to wait for her to reappear. My second choice was Brianna, a dark-skinned, Latina bubble-butted girl from Medellin. Not my type at all, but, when in Rome. The going price seemed to be $20 for a short time. The apartments are all variously built out inside with 8 by 10 foot cubicles, each containing a bed and nearly enough room to swing a pussy. Enjoying the doggie view of her bubble butt with her bent over, I negotiated a reasonably priced upgrade to the full Greek cruise experience. Everything covered, of course. Not the best, not the worst, but fine for the price.

I'll be back on my next trip to PC. Even if I have to go alone it's safe and friendly and I can't think of a better way to spend a few afternoon hours and get a little action in PC.

Mfins
09-10-15, 04:43
I'm one of those guys who got into trouble in college for smoking a maryjane. Was doing a connection through the USA customs took me to a room and finger-printed, and took my mugshot. When I objected, U. S customs told me I have no rights and they can do whatever they please.I am not sure what it is in other countries but, something like 40 percent of all american men are arrested for something by age 35.

About 30 percent of All american men are convicted, plead guilty, or plea bargain to some sort of crime by the age 35.

Granted a lot of these are Something very minor like driving on a suspended license or marijuana posesion but, its really a huge number and for a country like Panama to keep out 1/3 of all American men when they are trying to promote tourism and establish themselves as a world leader for Commerce and banking is a huge number.

Also, trying to find out from the Panamanian embassy / consulate what crimes constitute denied entry is next to impossible. You would think they would widely publish the information to avoid John Doe tourist from wasting time and money coming down only to be turned away but they do not. Other countries (ie: Canada) do not either.

Sorry I am not trying to turn this into a Legal discussion but, if this new policy by Panama holds true and they continue to enforce it this issue will impact a lot of people on this site.

Gagoo
09-10-15, 05:29
Fellas, I'm looking at going over to Panama for a quick trip soon. I'm specifically into brown / caramel completed chicks with big bubble phat (not fat) asses that are real. These types would probably be described as black Panamanians. My question is how many of these typs are available? Are they all over the place or are they few and far between. I've mongered in a lot of places so I'm a pretty seasoned monger. I just want to know what I'm getting myself into. I see a lot of reports on Colombians who are not are ally my favorite. They seem to all have a ton of plastic surgery and are very business like which I don't like.

What do you guys think? Can I find black Panamanians with nice bubble phat asses pretty easily there? Or will it require a bit of work? Let me know what you think. Thanks!I've always seen at least a few in Veneto. I was there in June and seen a few. I've been to Panana about 4 times in the last 2 years, and I'll be there again this weekend.

I brought my own girl last June, so I didn't know Veneto is charging a fee now. And now a tax on gambling? Veneto will go down for sure.

Gagoo
09-10-15, 05:44
Are they still charging a chica fee at the Veneto. I booked a room for the weekend. Should have RTFF be I did. Guess its to late to worry about it now. Was wondering if you use the elevator down stairs in front of the sushi bar if they will still charge the fee. Will have to walk by the front desk so will probably still have to pay the fee. 40 dollars is a high tax to pay. Is that every time you take a girl up? Usually like to have 3 a night.I have been in Veneto about 4-5 times in the last two years. This chica fee is BS. I already reserved my room there for this weekend. I could probably cancel for free, but I'll probably suck it up this time.

When I was was there in June I brought my own girl from Colombia for a few nights. We arrived together from the airport, later we went to Mexico for 2 weeks.

Anyways I checked the girl in with me, and about half the time security would really bother me about the girl. I didn't know about some new chica fee. I was wondering why they were so strict and being assholes. Normally I'd be very stern and angry with the security and tell them she is my girlfriend and she checked in with me, but in English or my bad Spanish I don't know if that was clear. But I'd have my Colombian girl tell them. Only one time the security insisted I go to the front desk. I was pissed. I walked to the front desk mostly to complain, and I noticed later the security guy followed me to the front desk. The guy at the front desk understood me well and checked that I had someone else with me and he waved to the security to say I was OK.

I made sure to leave an online hotel review about them treating me and my so called girlfriend like this.

Gagoo
09-14-15, 01:54
I have been at Veneto 2 nights now. I've been looking for ways to beat this and I see and have heard some things. I'll write about that as I find out more.

Until then I paid this stupid fee twice now. Here is one of the receipts. The reception guy says it is OK for the girl to come and go with you up until about 6 AM. There doesn't seem to be a set hour of expiration. If you leave with the girl to go eat somewhere and come back you show the receipt to security.

You could probably bring in a different girl with the receipt, or bring a girl upstairs for your buddy using the receipt, etc. Or you and yoiu buddy fuck the same girl, whatever you want.

A picture of the receipt is attached. It wouldn't be hard for devious people to make their own so called receipt.

TellAll
09-14-15, 04:04
I have been at Veneto 2 nights now. I've been looking for ways to beat this and I see and have heard some things. I'll write about that as I find out more.

Until then I paid this stupid fee twice now. Here is one of the receipts. The reception guy says it is OK for the girl to come and go with you up until about 6 AM. There doesn't seem to be a set hour of expiration. If you leave with the girl to go eat somewhere and come back you show the receipt to security.

You could probably bring in a different girl with the receipt, or bring a girl upstairs for your buddy using the receipt, etc. Or you and yoiu buddy fuck the same girl, whatever you want.

A picture of the receipt is attached. It wouldn't be hard for devious people to make their own so called receipt.To much work to dodge a fee they shouldn't be charging, especially since the Veneto is a dump now. Best to find other lodging.

Vitrea
09-15-15, 14:52
Nice report. Which country is your new GFE from?




* 9 pm, I am having my first beer at Habanos. I am getting a little depressed with how I am not really connecting with anyone. Fucking is nice but I'd like just a little more. Even if its temporary -- a bit of GFE you know?

Well shit. I look at two chicas to the right of me who are grinning ear to ear. One of them just stands out. Exact body type I want, skin tone and eyes to die for. We have a couple of drinks and she offers 2 hours for 200. I pop her in a cab and my raging cock and me are heading to the hotel.

Pure bliss. We fucked for 2 hours straight with only a couple of short breaks. I got her number and hit the sack. Txted her the next day for a repeat. I brought up some beer and a fruit salad too. We fucked and then watched some tv.

This is when things changed a bit. I put 200 on the nightstand and she looked at the money and me with a thoughtful look. She asks if I want to go see a movie with her.

Since then she has been dropping by every day. She hasn't asked for money up front, but I did offer her 200 to help with her rent this month which she took. I guess I didn't want her going to Habanos to work it off. We've been checking out PC, eating out, taking walks and shooting the shit.

My Spanish is improving thanks to her and her English thanks to my help. Yesterday night I just straight up asked her why she even works at Habanos. She's 26, has a university degree and takes English classes 3 days a week. She mentioned her student debt was pretty high. Then later said she'd quit and find a normal job.

I hope she does. She's single, no kids, doesn't gamble or even drink much. In the meantime I booked a resort for the weekend and she said she would just spend the entire week with me.

Exactly what I'm looking for. .

Oil Stain
09-17-15, 02:00
The Hotel Principe is chica friendly. I made reservations for two, and the girls did not need to check in at the front desk. Carted a 6-7 from Habanos last week for $200 tln. The weather in PTY is hot.

GauntMan
09-18-15, 17:06
I have been in Veneto about 4-5 times in the last two years. This chica fee is BS. I already reserved my room there for this weekend. I could probably cancel for free, but I'll probably suck it up this time.

When I was was there in June I brought my own girl from Colombia for a few nights. We arrived together from the airport, later we went to Mexico for 2 weeks.

Anyways I checked the girl in with me, and about half the time security would really bother me about the girl. I didn't know about some new chica fee. I was wondering why they were so strict and being assholes. Normally I'd be very stern and angry with the security and tell them she is my girlfriend and she checked in with me, but in English or my bad Spanish I don't know if that was clear. But I'd have my Colombian girl tell them. Only one time the security insisted I go to the front desk. I was pissed. I walked to the front desk mostly to complain, and I noticed later the security guy followed me to the front desk. The guy at the front desk understood me well and checked that I had someone else with me and he waved to the security to say I was OK.

I made sure to leave an online hotel review about them treating me and my so called girlfriend like this.This might be related to the fact that the Venetto was intervened by the gaming authority to prevent bankruptcy, they are under government administration right now.

GauntMan
09-18-15, 17:11
If you're looking for another report about fabulous experience with a 9 pulled out of Habanos, hold on a day or so and I'll give you a report about a non-fabulous experience with a 9 pulled out of Habanos. Along with some reports about satisfying times with girls from Backpage and Bocatorena.

If Bocatorena makes your palms sweat because you think it's dangerous or dirty or just too local, read on to someone else's report about his fabulous experience with a 9 pulled out of Habanos. And notice that no one ever seems to have names or digits to give up for these fabulous 9's. But, if you enjoy the sights, smells and sounds of truly locals-only, low-rent mongering experiences, read on as I've found one to the max in PC.

The place is best described as a hooker apartment house and I'll call it Dynasty as that's the name painted on the building who knows how many years and purposes ago. It's in the Plaza Cinco de Mayo and is serviced by the Plaza Cinco de Mayo Metro stop. Taking the subway to a cheap venue is, by the way, the epitome of low rent mongering.

The place was discovered by my PC-based friend who is a Spanish-fluent blonde-haired gringo. He was taken there a couple of years ago by his married Colombiana girlfriend for a late night drinking session with her working girl friends. He said the girls were friendly enough but the place was foreboding with locked doors, stairwells for toilets and not completely friendly local guys. For me, the perfect place for an adventure.

Looking at the photo, the entrance is an unmarked stairway at the bottom of the vertical yellow stripe. Look for the faded Joyeria awning on the far left side of the photo. We first showed up at about 10:00 on Friday night and were told that it's only open from 8:00 am to 8:00 pm. So we appeared again mid-afternoon on Saturday.

As we started up the stairs to the first floor, I commented that it sounded like a lot of people up there. I was right, the place was like a block party for hookers, clients and people wandering off the street for the party. Inside it's a half oval with open air hallways or walkways overlooking an open courtyard. If you have a really vivid imagination, think of a bacchanalian HoJo with walkways filled with hookers and clients overlooking the pool. There are 10 or 12 apartments on each of three floors. Each apartment had, I would guess, 4 to 8 girls working out of it. Each apartment has a steel bar security door outside of a regular wooden door. On Saturday, all of the security doors were open whereas they were closed and locked when my friend visited two years ago.

One of my major complaints about Boca, and even the high end places, is that few of the girls bother to even fake appearing happy to be there. This place was different, it really was like a hooker block party. Music coming out of various apartments, occasionally overlaid with rhythmic moaning or outright screaming. Girls eating and drinking, dancing, hanging around their own apartments accosting potential clients and walking around. Guys wandering around eyeing the girls. A truly upbeat party atmosphere on a rainy Saturday afternoon.

Needless to say, we were the only gringos in the place, possibly the only gringos since my friend was there before. But we were welcomed by many of the girls with open arms and legs. I don't know how many times we were stopped and propositioned by the girls as we wandered down the walkways. The most negative reaction was from the girls who simply ignored us. The Panamanians clients were friendly enough too with several talking to my friend and nothing negative.

The girls, you ask? Think of the mix of girls at Bocatorena and you'll have it. Probably some of the same girls working here during the day and at Boca in the evenings. Obviously no 20 year old 9's but variety for pretty much any other taste. No one particularly tickled my fancy although several did molest various body parts. Since I decided to have the full experience, I settled on a younger petite girl but was foiled when she was snatched away in front of my eyes and I didn't want to wait for her to reappear. My second choice was Brianna, a dark-skinned, Latina bubble-butted girl from Medellin. Not my type at all, but, when in Rome. The going price seemed to be $20 for a short time. The apartments are all variously built out inside with 8 by 10 foot cubicles, each containing a bed and nearly enough room to swing a pussy. Enjoying the doggie view of her bubble butt with her bent over, I negotiated a reasonably priced upgrade to the full Greek cruise experience. Everything covered, of course. Not the best, not the worst, but fine for the price.

I'll be back on my next trip to PC. Even if I have to go alone it's safe and friendly and I can't think of a better way to spend a few afternoon hours and get a little action in PC.Nice to hear that you went to the Underground!! This place is indeed as described, it has been even featured on tv news as a hooker block party (great description! As usual, don't go solo if you arent confident, best if you understand spanish.

GauntMan
09-18-15, 17:16
I love reading all of your posts and flame wars regarding taxi fares. Like everyone here says the taxis are horrible, they overcharge, they text and drive, or are just horrible drivers in general. I don't take them anymore except when I am wasted. Is it worth fighting over a dollar? I don't know. I live close to the fish market (la Mayor, Boca) and visit there on occasion. Everything said here is true. But it is safe. It smells. Most of the women are 5's or below, but you do find some nice talent there too. I also like to go to the Veneto but I rarely pick up women from there. I just like to play in the casino and watch all the action. I have not been to Habanos, but would love to go.

Normal pay days here in panama are the 15th and the 30th or around there. These days are packed at the fish market. Sometimes there are more choices because the putas come out when there is more money around, but often there are too many men for the women so I don't normally shop for anything around these days. That includes going to the markets or banks. Just full of people everywhere.

The map is awesome by the way. I never realized there was a MP right by my house I will have to check out Hawai some time this week. I will post my experience.

I would love to meet up with some mongers. Going solo is never as fun. Setting up a meet up would be awesome if anyone is down. Let me know.Regular yellow taxi service is crap. Is a hit or miss thing. Try to get uber, a little more expensive but a secure travel option.

BatInTheCity
09-18-15, 20:35
Just a general comment on the taxi debate. I haven't seen this mentioned so I will. When I am in Panama City, or Bogota, I often take the white hotel taxis. These are parked in front of hotels, are nice newer cars and SUVs, and Cost more than a street taxi. I like them because the drivers are more upscale and know a lot about the city and can advise. The cars are more comfortable and cleaner and in PC, Bogota, Cartagena they are white so you know them. They are safer since they are associated with a hotel. Rather than flag down a cab I suck it up and pay the few extra bucks for a hotel taxi. It's worth it to me. I also like Uber a lot, and used them in Bogota and they were cheaper than street taxis and hotel taxis. So. Lots of options for you.

Exoticspirit
09-26-15, 04:22
I will be flying through Panama City in May 2016 and have a few flight options all with varying durations of stopovers.

1) 1 hour.

2) 4 hours.

3) 7 hours.

Of course I already know that with the 1 hour verion, I'll just be going straight to the gate for my next connecting flight. For the 4 hours version, I'm wondering if it would give me enough time to get out into the city even for a bit and return to catch my next flight?

For the third option, I definitely will have enough time out into the city. What would be suggestions for this one considering that I have never been to Panama before? Of course it would be nice to do one girl somewhere as well as see one general tourist attraction.

TellAll
09-26-15, 04:38
I will be flying through Panama City in May 2016 and have a few flight options all with varying durations of stopovers.

1) 1 hour.

2) 4 hours.

3) 7 hours.

Of course I already know that with the 1 hour verion, I'll just be going straight to the gate for my next connecting flight. For the 4 hours version, I'm wondering if it would give me enough time to get out into the city even for a bit and return to catch my next flight?

For the third option, I definitely will have enough time out into the city. What would be suggestions for this one considering that I have never been to Panama before? Of course it would be nice to do one girl somewhere as well as see one general tourist attraction.Do the 1 hour and leave. You won't miss anything.

Hobbiest1
09-26-15, 16:05
I will be flying through Panama City in May 2016 and have a few flight options all with varying durations of stopovers.

1) 1 hour.

2) 4 hours.

3) 7 hours.

Of course I already know that with the 1 hour verion, I'll just be going straight to the gate for my next connecting flight. For the 4 hours version, I'm wondering if it would give me enough time to get out into the city even for a bit and return to catch my next flight?

For the third option, I definitely will have enough time out into the city. What would be suggestions for this one considering that I have never been to Panama before? Of course it would be nice to do one girl somewhere as well as see one general tourist attraction.I think the only possibly option is 7 hours as the airport is about a half hour from downtown PC.

Exoticspirit
09-26-15, 16:08
I think the only possibly option is 7 hours as the airport is about a half hour from downtown PC.With 7 hours, I guess I could take a quick look at the Panama Canal, have a meal and then hit a place like Golden Time since I won't be checking into any hotel. I would be flying in from Medellin on my way back to North America so I'm wondering if Panama would be a big let down after Medellin.

Wrong Places
09-26-15, 16:26
I will be flying through Panama City in May 2016 and have a few flight options all with varying durations of stopovers.

1) 1 hour.

2) 4 hours.

3) 7 hours.

Of course I already know that with the 1 hour verion, I'll just be going straight to the gate for my next connecting flight. For the 4 hours version, I'm wondering if it would give me enough time to get out into the city even for a bit and return to catch my next flight?

For the third option, I definitely will have enough time out into the city. What would be suggestions for this one considering that I have never been to Panama before? Of course it would be nice to do one girl somewhere as well as see one general tourist attraction.Immigration timing is a crap shoot as is traffic in the city. If you decide to do the stopover, give yourself as much time as possible. I'd recommend a walk around Casco Viejo, the old town, and lunch or dinner there depending on your timing. And then Golden Time or, for local flavor, Bocatorena, which is next to Casco Viejo. For the Canal with your short amount of time about all you could see would be a ship going through a lock.

TellAll
09-26-15, 19:10
With 7 hours, I guess I could take a quick look at the Panama Canal, have a meal and then hit a place like Golden Time since I won't be checking into any hotel. I would be flying in from Medellin on my way back to North America so I'm wondering if Panama would be a big let down after Medellin.After Medellin PC will be a let down unless you were asleep your entire time in Medellin.

The Panama Canal is a waste of time, money and is boring.

Golden Time more Colombianas but at three times the price.

MadVillian
09-26-15, 19:40
I would rather do Panama City prior to Medellin. You will be disappointed if your going the other way around.

Dickhead
09-26-15, 20:53
The Panamá Canal is fascinating from both an historical standpoint and an engineering standpoint, and is awesome for many reasons, but in the simplest terms for its sheer scale. I go there at least once on every visit and I never get tired of it. It changed the world in so many ways. Among other things, it resulted in a cure for malaria. If I had just come from Medellín and had only 7 hours, I would absolutely go see the canal rather than get one more piece of ass.

Pop quiz: What was the busiest port in Latin America before the canal was built? Hint: One of my favorite cities to visit!

GeechieBoy
09-27-15, 00:26
I will be flying through Panama City in May 2016 and have a few flight options all with varying durations of stopovers.

1) 1 hour.

2) 4 hours.

3) 7 hours.

Of course I already know that with the 1 hour verion, I'll just be going straight to the gate for my next connecting flight. For the 4 hours version, I'm wondering if it would give me enough time to get out into the city even for a bit and return to catch my next flight?

For the third option, I definitely will have enough time out into the city. What would be suggestions for this one considering that I have never been to Panama before? Of course it would be nice to do one girl somewhere as well as see one general tourist attraction.No way with only 7 hours you could see the canal and knock off a piece of ass. The canal is super boring and honestly not worth the waste of your time on such a short visit. I would go straight to the Fish Market- see the market- eat some ceviche- then walk over to Bocatorena and hit 3 or 4 before grabbing a cab back to the airport.

Golden Time sucks- if you just left Medellin its all going to look a little disappointing!

Good luck.

Exoticspirit
09-27-15, 13:29
I would rather do Panama City prior to Medellin. You will be disappointed if your going the other way around.I'll be flying with my frequent flyer points so may not have a choice in my routing as I'll have to go through Panama City anyway after departing Medellin. If the quality of the mongering especially with price is so bad compared to Medellin, I may just not bother with any girls and just stick to a quick tourist visit for the seven hour layover, or just do the one hour airport connection. I have never been to Panama City before so maybe for the price of return cab fare, at least it might be worthwhile seeing a bit of the city and canal if I'm going to be flying through there anyway.

Watch Watch
09-27-15, 22:39
Few things you must know about Panama.

Avoid rush hour! Avoid rush hour. If you land at 7 am or 4 pm your screwed. Traffic worst then LA worst then NYC worst then Moscow (maybe not Moscow).

1. Use Uber its cheaper and faster. Cab ride should be about 25-27.

2. Panama is very prosperous. Looks like the Bronx.

3. median income is about 12 K usd a year.

4. Traffic sucks, I screwed up. Landed at 7 am. Took me 2 hours to get to City Center. Traffic sucks.

5. you can't travel in the city during rush hour, difference between a 10 minute ride and 30 minute ride.

6. cabbies aren't you ripping you off. It easier to make 2 dollars taking you 3 blocks then going 1/2 cross town for 4 dollars for no reason (think volume pricing).

7. I did imitate a local at Goldent time I paid 85. Not bad talent. 1 shot. Shower in room. OK service. Covered everything. Did not try go BBBJ.

7 A you bastards! Oasis is closed. Page is still up. Wtf is wrong with these people.

8. Veneto sucks. Don't go. Like an old tomb.

8 a Casino sucks. 5% deduction for exchange back to cash. Cash out 20 K I get 19 K. However the Chinese figured it out they give you extra house chips when you cash in 1 K give you.

1000 real chip 200 (no cash value house chips must play).

9 Hyatt place brand new. If you avoid front desk save 15 if not pay 15 (its okay).

10. Panama canal is interesting. But I would have liked 2 extra days in Medellin instead. But still glad I saw it.

11. Lots of Chinese people they ain't here for fun. You see Chinese. Money here!

12 I hired a guide. Google "my friend Mario tour" nice guy. Good guide cost me 120 . Good guy.

13. I was on limited participation cause next stop Medellin.

14. If I had to run a multi national empire out of Latin america. Panama be my HQ.

15. Panama airport sucks. Worst then Ohara. What is the point of going through security then they make you do a gate security scan. Threw away my soda I bought in the terminal.

16. Panama made me miserable.

Lucky Nuts
09-28-15, 02:36
I'll be flying with my frequent flyer points so may not have a choice in my routing as I'll have to go through Panama City anyway after departing Medellin. If the quality of the mongering especially with price is so bad compared to Medellin, I may just not bother with any girls and just stick to a quick tourist visit for the seven hour layover, or just do the one hour airport connection. I have never been to Panama City before so maybe for the price of return cab fare, at least it might be worthwhile seeing a bit of the city and canal if I'm going to be flying through there anyway.Although I agree with others that it's sorta boring and overpriced it is something to be seen once. The most interesting part (for me) is the exhibits showing the history of the building of the canal. Realize all your going to see of the canal (which is about 45 or 50 miles long) is one set locks raising or lowering a ship. The visitor center closes mid to late afternoon so the timing of your trip also would impact your decision. Leaving Medellin early morning would work out well to spend a good amount of time at the canal visitor center.

As for chica hunting the real fun in P. C. is from 10 pm To the early morning hours. It's pretty dead outside of that timeframe. But as you mentioned the massage parlors would be an option. I think those cost $120 for an hour, credit cards accepted LOL.

Tiny 12
09-28-15, 03:10
Pop quiz: What was the busiest port in Latin America before the canal was built? Hint: One of my favorite cities to visit!Buenos Aires.

Dickhead
09-28-15, 13:35
Buenos Aires.Bzzzt. Wrong. Buenos Aires is a river port and not suitable for large draft vessels. 75 km up the ship channel from the ocean.

Lucky Nuts
09-28-15, 18:48
Bzzzt. Wrong. Buenos Aires is a river port and not suitable for large draft vessels. 75 km up the ship channel from the ocean.I'll guess Panana City. Prior to the canal goods were transported overland from one ocean to the other.

Tiny 12
09-28-15, 19:02
Bzzzt. Wrong. Buenos Aires is a river port and not suitable for large draft vessels. 75 km up the ship channel from the ocean.I figured you were thinking of Buenos Aires because

1. Transatlantic trade with the Americas before 1914, when the canal opened, was much more important than transpacific trade.

2. Santos, Brazil and Vera Cruz, Mexico presumably are not among your favorite cities. You detest Colombia so Cartagena's out.

3. Buenos Aires has historically been one of the busiest ports in Latin America, despite its location. According to Wikipedia, after an expansion in 1925 (11 years after the Panama Canal opened), Buenos Aires was the largest port in Latin America. Admittedly, not the busiest in terms of tonnage (that probably would have been Balboa or Colon), but the largest.

My second best guess is Lima, or actually Callao, in Peru. I'd be interested in what you believe the correct answer is.

Combo
09-28-15, 23:03
Although I agree with others that it's sorta boring and overpriced it is something to be seen once. The most interesting part (for me) is the exhibits showing the history of the building of the canal. Realize all your going to see of the canal (which is about 45 or 50 miles long) is one set locks raising or lowering a ship. The visitor center closes mid to late afternoon so the timing of your trip also would impact your decision. Leaving Medellin early morning would work out well to spend a good amount of time at the canal visitor center.

As for chica hunting the real fun in P. C. is from 10 pm To the early morning hours. It's pretty dead outside of that timeframe. But as you mentioned the massage parlors would be an option. I think those cost $120 for an hour, credit cards accepted LOL.Agreed. I can't imagine someone would stop in Panama City and not visit the canal. While not spectacular like many tourist sites, it's worth taking a few hours to see it.

TellAll
09-29-15, 03:54
I figured you were thinking of Buenos Aires because

1. Transatlantic trade with the Americas before 1914, when the canal opened, was much more important than transpacific trade.

2. Santos, Brazil and Vera Cruz, Mexico presumably are not among your favorite cities. You detest Colombia so Cartagena's out.

3. Buenos Aires has historically been one of the busiest ports in Latin America, despite its location. According to Wikipedia, after an expansion in 1925 (11 years after the Panama Canal opened), Buenos Aires was the largest port in Latin America. Admittedly, not the busiest in terms of tonnage (that probably would have been Balboa or Colon), but the largest.

My second best guess is Lima, or actually Callao, in Peru. I'd be interested in what you believe the correct answer is.The mere fact that there is so much conversation and historical fun facts about the canal on a Poon site about Panama City should be indication enough to make a pass on PC totally.

You want to see the Canal, google it and save time and money.

TellAll
09-29-15, 03:54
I figured you were thinking of Buenos Aires because

1. Transatlantic trade with the Americas before 1914, when the canal opened, was much more important than transpacific trade.

2. Santos, Brazil and Vera Cruz, Mexico presumably are not among your favorite cities. You detest Colombia so Cartagena's out.

3. Buenos Aires has historically been one of the busiest ports in Latin America, despite its location. According to Wikipedia, after an expansion in 1925 (11 years after the Panama Canal opened), Buenos Aires was the largest port in Latin America. Admittedly, not the busiest in terms of tonnage (that probably would have been Balboa or Colon), but the largest.

My second best guess is Lima, or actually Callao, in Peru. I'd be interested in what you believe the correct answer is.The mere fact that there is so much conversation and historical fun facts about the canal on a Poon site about Panama City should be indication enough to make a pass on PC totally.

You want to see the Canal, google it and save time, money and disappointment.

Tiny 12
09-29-15, 04:57
After Medellin PC will be a let down unless you were asleep your entire time in Medellin.

Do the 1 hour and leave. You won't miss anything.

The mere fact that there is so much conversation and historical fun facts about the canal on a Poon site about Panama City should be indication enough to make a pass on PC totally.

You want to see the Canal, google it and save time, money and disappointment.TellAll, Respectfully, your recent posts about Panama may be too negative. If your primary goal is to bang lots of reasonably attractive women and not spend a lot of money, Medellin is superior. However, Panama has a diverse scene with all price levels. There's massage, stripper bars, cheap brothels and freelancers. It's safer than Medellin. The freelance scene is better than Medellin. The action at the high end is more concentrated -- there are are number of places within walking distance north and south of Via Espana.

What I like best about Panama, you can rent a car and see the country. The canal, Soberania National Park, El Valle, the beaches around Rio Hato, and the mountains in Chiriqui are all worth seeing. Bocas del Toro probably is too, although I've never been there. I suspect traveling around Antioquia, where Medellin is located, would also be fun. I've done a day trip there, in a taxi, but don't have the balls to travel independently.

To be honest the locks at Miraflores weren't awe inspiring for me. However looking down on the canal from a tower in Soberania park, and seeing ships wind through the canal out to the Caribbean, was.

Dickhead
09-29-15, 12:20
The answer is Valparaíso, Chile. Fun place!

Lucky Nuts
09-29-15, 14:47
The mere fact that there is so much conversation and historical fun facts about the canal on a Poon site about Panama City should be indication enough to make a pass on PC totally.

You want to see the Canal, google it and save time and money.No don't skip Panama City. Go, visit Habanos at 10 PM. Meet chicas dressed up like it's New Year's Eve from several different countries. Chat them up to assess their attitudes. Negotiate with them on their prices. Have another beer and make another walk around some more letting them know you're trying to make a decision. Finally take one back to your hotel and eno!

Exoticspirit
09-29-15, 17:43
No don't skip Panama City. Go, visit Habanos at 10 PM. Meet chicas dressed up like it's New Year's Eve from several different countries. Chat them up to assess their attitudes. Negotiate with them on their prices. Have another beer and make another walk around some more letting them know you're trying to make a decision. Finally take one back to your hotel and eno!If I am not staying overnight (have not decided whether to do just a 7 hour layover or an overnight stay or two), then it might be hard to visit the night time action unless they have something going on during the day. This is why I was originally targeting something like GoldenTime for the daytime hours if Habanos or even Venetos is dead in the daytime.

Dickhead
09-29-15, 22:15
Not only is Hábanos dead in the day time, it is closed. I like Hábanos and if you only have one night, that is where you should go. If you have two nights, go to Hábanos one night and Boca the next night. Golden Times is okay if you want to spend a bit more money and is quite near to Hábanos. Maybe six blocks. Panamá City is not a real exciting place and mostly exists as a place to get from North America to South America, as far as mongering is concerned. At least that is my opinion.

BTW I do not 'detest' Colombia. It is just dangerous and everyone should know that. There was some overlap in what I posted. For instance, when I got thrown in the clink, that was one of the two times they tried to rob me, and some of the problems with my doormen were connected with the taxi driver incident (which also involved cops, who were sort of assholes but also sort of just doing their jobs). Now you want a country I detest, that would be Venezuela and I am not at all fond of The Bahamas.

Exoticspirit
09-29-15, 23:12
Panam City is not a real exciting place and mostly exists as a place to get from North America to South America, as far as mongering is concerned. At least that is my opinion..Actually, I just saw Anthony Bourdain's episode in Panama and I quite liked the fish market he was in. I can see myself spending time in there during the daytime and trying out different types of cerviches in addition to checking out the canal.

I can see that so far, Panama at least has more to offer than say San Salvador, which is another common travel connection.

Dickhead
09-29-15, 23:28
Well, saying that Panamá has more to offer than Salvador is a bit like saying that Richard Nixon was less of a crook than Tim Donaghy. I don't find fish markets to be much of a spectator sport ever since I vomited iln the one in Hong Kong, improving its smell considerably. In all of continental Latin America, El Salvador is the only Spanish speaking country I have not been to and that is because I have yet to hear anyone say anything good about it. That includes people who grew up there. In fact, I was just on a train in Spain with a guy who lived there for nine years and he told me not to bother going there. I will probably go there anyway at some point though, because as you say, there are a lot of flights through there to other places. Guatemala, Honduras, Nicaragua and El Salvador have this stupid visa pact, though. That means when I am in Guatemala, a place I like, I can't renew my visa by going to (El) Salvador and must go to CR or Panamá instead.

Dickhead
09-29-15, 23:38
I don't think Golden Time is open in the day either. Last I recall (haven't been there in a couple of years) it opened around 7 or 8 PM like Hábanos and like Hábanos the selection was thin at opening time. Once I was drunk out of my mind while staying at Tower Suites and I went there around 5 PM and it was closed but I staggered into Hooter's and ended up talking to some tourons (a cross between a tourist and a moron) and they paid me to show them around so I took them to Veneto and it ended up being quite a night when all was said and done.

Ai2002
09-30-15, 16:53
Hey guys,

I need your help / some info.

Panama Casino Questions.

Whats the best casino to gamble?

What are the minimum bets at the roulette table? What #'s / strategy did you find that was lucky or not so lucky.

Do you tip after a winning money? If so, how much is reasonable.

Is there sports gambling betting? I'm looking to bet on NFL games if possible.

Is it easy to offer casino chips to women vs money.

Panama General Questions.

Where can I find sex pills in Panama City? Whats the cost per pill etc. 'Kamagra Gold 100' works real well just cut the pill in half and take it like 40 mins before action.

I don't know Spanish well. Just a few words / phrases here and there. Is there any phases / strategy that you use when negotiating? Or getting around?

I like Reggae Music. Is there a certain club / location that plays reggae music? Or American music.

I'm staying at the Hyatt in Panama soon. Is there a place nearby where I can go swimming and use a hot tub or Jacuzzi?

Do most or all Panama women have WhatsApp? Or is it like Thailand where everyone has an app call 'Line'.

Tiny 12
10-01-15, 01:57
As for chica hunting the real fun in P. C. is from 10 pm To the early morning hours. It's pretty dead outside of that timeframe. But as you mentioned the massage parlors would be an option. I think those cost $120 for an hour, credit cards accepted LOL.The only massage places that charge $120 that I know of are in Tumba Muerto, being Golden Time and Goldfingers. And that's if you come in a taxi or they think you'll pay that much without arguing. Dickhead is right, Golden Time opens at 7:30 PM, unless they've changed recently. It's not close to Habano's though. One thing I'll say about Golden Time, if you want to get laid early in the evening and are willing to chance a mechanical lay with a good looking woman, it's a damn good choice. Most of the women will be there then, unlike Habano's, the Veneto, Miami, Elite and Le Palace, where as Vegas says the action starts later on.

There are other places, open during daytime, where you can get laid for substantially less than at Golden Time. One is Hawaii Massage. The times I went there I paid $60, and there were four or five dogs and one, possibly two hotties. There are other massage parlors that operate similarly.

Then there are a couple of places in Casco Viejo, the old part of the city, that are open during daytime. I've never been but they're dirt cheap and have been reported on extensively here.

Mfins
10-01-15, 05:15
Hey guys,

I need your help / some info.

Panama Casino Questions.

Whats the best casino to gamble?

What are the minimum bets at the roulette table? What #'s / strategy did you find that was lucky or not so lucky.

Do you tip after a winning money? If so, how much is reasonable.

Is there sports gambling betting? I'm looking to bet on NFL games if possible.

Is it easy to offer casino chips to women vs money.

Panama General Questions.

Where can I find sex pills in Panama City? Whats the cost per pill etc. 'Kamagra Gold 100' works real well just cut the pill in half and take it like 40 mins before action.

I don't know Spanish well. Just a few words / phrases here and there. Is there any phases / strategy that you use when negotiating? Or getting around?

I like Reggae Music. Is there a certain club / location that plays reggae music? Or American music.

I'm staying at the Hyatt in Panama soon. Is there a place nearby where I can go swimming and use a hot tub or Jacuzzi?

Do most or all Panama women have WhatsApp? Or is it like Thailand where everyone has an app call 'Line'.My personal Favorite is the Panama Hotel Casino, or Mystic Casino.

There are sports books in the Bingo Halls and Most of the casinos. Most are nice and you won't have a problem finding one.

Any Pharmacy in panama will have "sex pills". Try not to buy them at the Pharmacy next to the Veneto. I think its called " Greens" They are expensive compared toother places around town. Not sure if they have Kamagra.

Most girls will take Casino Chips although they much prefer cash and a few may either up charge you if you give them chips, not accept them, or ask you for taxi money in addition to the chips so they can get to the casino to change them out.

Every single girl has Whatsapp.

There is a reggae club on Calle Uruguay.

Not sure if the Hyatt has a hot tub / pool. You can ask the hotel desk where a pool hot tub is.

Your other questions about how much you bet, tip etc should be common sense and is an individual decision to make.

Exoticspirit
10-01-15, 16:09
I saw Anthony Bourdain's episode where he visited Barrio Chino in Panama City. Since I am a Chino, I would be interested in checking the place out. But then I saw another video on YouTube where these guys drove through neighbourhoods at night including Barrio Chino and it looked pretty deserted and scary after dark. Is Barrio Chino in a safe area at all and is it far from the recommended areas for us to stay in?

Dickhead
10-01-15, 21:06
Dickhead is right, Golden Time opens at 7:30 PM, unless they've changed recently. It's not close to Habano's though.You're right. My bad. I am confusing it with the place over by Hooter's. What is that place called?

Tp Horn
10-02-15, 01:25
Is Barrio Chino in a safe area at all and is it far from the recommended areas for us to stay in?Barrio Chino is safe during the day, teeming with people buying fireworks and cheap party decorations and other chinese crap. It's a stone's throw from the fish market. No hotels around there though. I'm not sure what kind of "tourist destination" it is.

The more interesting chinatown may be in El Dorado, near Golden Time. There is a chinese casino.

Sox1492
10-02-15, 11:21
This is really concerning. I have a trip fully booked for next week. I have a non-felony conviction from many years ago related to a fake ID and possession of alcohol when I was a teenager (but legally an adult).

Does anyone have any updates to this situation?

Any help would be much appreciated.


I am not sure what it is in other countries but, something like 40 percent of all american men are arrested for something by age 35.

About 30 percent of All american men are convicted, plead guilty, or plea bargain to some sort of crime by the age 35.

Granted a lot of these are Something very minor like driving on a suspended license or marijuana posesion but, its really a huge number and for a country like Panama to keep out 1/3 of all American men when they are trying to promote tourism and establish themselves as a world leader for Commerce and banking is a huge number.

Also, trying to find out from the Panamanian embassy / consulate what crimes constitute denied entry is next to impossible. You would think they would widely publish the information to avoid John Doe tourist from wasting time and money coming down only to be turned away but they do not. Other countries (ie: Canada) do not either.

Sorry I am not trying to turn this into a Legal discussion but, if this new policy by Panama holds true and they continue to enforce it this issue will impact a lot of people on this site.

GasparLeMarc12
10-02-15, 18:51
This is really concerning. I have a trip fully booked for next week. I have a non-felony conviction from many years ago related to a fake ID and possession of alcohol when I was a teenager (but legally an adult).

Does anyone have any updates to this situation?

Any help would be much appreciated.Non-felony, minor crime or non drug related you should be just fine.

Tiny 12
10-02-15, 22:19
You're right. My bad. I am confusing it with the place over by Hooter's. What is that place called?The only place I know of close to Hooters is Elite, the high dollar strip club, which is across Calle 50 and a little west of Hooters. They have well choreographed stage shows and usually at least a few hotties. The price for take out is ridiculous unless your date is consuming extremely large amounts of alcohol. You have to buy her $100+ worth of drinks before they'll let her leave, and then she's going to want another $200 or $300. You can line up visits outside the club at more economical prices, but need to be careful as if the club catches the girl freelancing or giving out her phone number they'll fire her.

This is actually not a bad place to hang out, especially if you're an alcoholic. You can drink all you want for one low price and, again, the shows are kind of entertaining.

Dickhead
10-02-15, 22:25
The only place I know of close to Hooters is Elite, the high dollar strip club, which is across Calle 50 and a little west of Hooters. They have well choreographed stage shows and usually at least a few hotties. The price for take out is ridiculous unless your date is consuming extremely large amounts of alcohol. You have to buy her $100+ worth of drinks before they'll let her leave, and then she's going to want another $200 or $300. You can line up visits outside the club at more economical prices, but need to be careful as if the club catches the girl freelancing or giving out her phone number they'll fire her.

This is actually not a bad place to hang out, especially if you're an alcoholic. You can drink all you want for one low price and, again, the shows are kind of entertaining.Yeah, I think so. I am not confusing the two places. I am just confusing the two locations. Been a few years since I have been to either but the thing about all you can drink sticks in my mind!

Mfins
10-03-15, 03:48
This is really concerning. I have a trip fully booked for next week. I have a non-felony conviction from many years ago related to a fake ID and possession of alcohol when I was a teenager (but legally an adult).

Does anyone have any updates to this situation?

Any help would be much appreciated.Yes, You should be okay. Canada might keep you out for that as they are very strict but, I do not think Panama has risen to that level.

Just an FYI. Mexico is beginning to implement the same rules when flying in.

The issue is, no one really knows what crimes constitute denied entry. They won't tell you even if you knew who to ask. Again however, I am very confident you will not be denied with such minor offenses.

Stiffiaus
10-03-15, 19:41
Hi,

First time poster.

I'm stopping by PTY for 3 nights and looking for advice.

Looking to source quality company over quantity.

I don't mind spending extra money if it means better safety for this solo gringo, and creates more options with English speaking girls.

I speak next to no Spanish yet and haven't travelled in Latin America.

Researching other posts here, I'll likely stay at Hyatt Place, and visit Cabanas and Veneto, and maybe hire Mario the guide for a day.

I'm a British guy. Late 30's.

Cheers

Exoticspirit
10-03-15, 21:19
Is the walk between Habanos and the Veneto / Las Vegas Suites area safe at night? What about in general in the old part Casco Veijo in the evening?

Lee
10-04-15, 00:41
Is the walk between Habanos and the Veneto / Las Vegas Suites area safe at night? What about in general in the old part Casco Veijo in the evening?Habanos to Veneto I've done many a time up to 10:00 PM. After that take a taxi. The streets are full well after 9:00. People go out to dinner later in the evening there.

Cannot help with Casco Veijo. No experience.

Lee.

Tiny 12
10-04-15, 01:28
Is the walk between Habanos and the Veneto / Las Vegas Suites area safe at night? What about in general in the old part Casco Veijo in the evening?I'd have no problem walking between Habanos and the Veneto at 2:00 AM. As to Casco Viejo during the evening, if you stay in the tourist / gentrified area and don't wander into a rough neighborhood you should be fine. I wouldn't feel comfortable there on foot after everything closes though.

Respectfully, I think you may be over-planning this, considering you're looking at a potential 7 hour layover nine months from now.

Exoticspirit
10-04-15, 02:51
I'd have no problem walking between Habanos and the Veneto at 2:00 AM. As to Casco Viejo during the evening, if you stay in the tourist / gentrified area and don't wander into a rough neighborhood you should be fine. I wouldn't feel comfortable there on foot after everything closes though.

Respectfully, I think you may be over-planning this, considering you're looking at a potential 7 hour layover nine months from now.Thanks. There are no different travel options I have now (since my travel is still so far off as you said). I could end up with anything from a one hour stop at the airport just to connect to another flight, to a 7 hour layover to even a one night or even two night stay now. A two night stay will obviously allow me daylight hours to explore the city but a single night might just get me evening hours in Panama before I have to connect with another flight in the morning.

As most of you already mentioned, if I'm coming from a trip in Colombia (which is not a done deal), then mongering options would be downhill from there. But if I'm just staying in Central America, then Panama City might actually look pretty good especially in comparison to the only definite destination I'll be visiting for sure which are the Bay Islands of Honduras (Utilia / Roatan) for scuba diving. I heard so far the Bay Islands are pitiful for mongering and as a result, Panama City and even another stopover potential, San Salvador, would like pretty good.

Oil Stain
10-04-15, 02:57
Is the walk between Habanos and the Veneto / Las Vegas Suites area safe at night? What about in general in the old part Casco Veijo in the evening?I walked from Veneto to habanos in September with the only problem being the condition of the sidewalks. It's only a 10 minute walk.

BatInTheCity
10-04-15, 17:09
The only massage places that charge $120 that I know of are in Tumba Muerto, being Golden Time and Goldfingers. And that's if you come in a taxi or they think you'll pay that much without arguing. Dickhead is right, Golden Time opens at 7:30 PM, unless they've changed recently. It's not close to Habano's though. One thing I'll say about Golden Time, if you want to get laid early in the evening and are willing to chance a mechanical lay with a good looking woman, it's a damn good choice. Most of the women will be there then, unlike Habano's, the Veneto, Miami, Elite and Le Palace, where as Vegas says the action starts later on.

There are other places, open during daytime, where you can get laid for substantially less than at Golden Time. One is Hawaii Massage. The times I went there I paid $60, and there were four or five dogs and one, possibly two hotties. There are other massage parlors that operate similarly.

Then there are a couple of places in Casco Viejo, the old part of the city, that are open during daytime. I've never been but they're dirt cheap and have been reported on extensively here.I like the description of golden times. Mechanical lay with a great looking girl. So true. They are hot, and it's a bit mechanical. Almost like a doctors visit. But it gets the job done. Safely, and cleanly. There are showers in the room.

Dickhead
10-04-15, 21:33
Hi,

First time poster.

I'm stopping by PTY for 3 nights and looking for advice.

Looking to source quality company over quantity.

I don't mind spending extra money if it means better safety for this solo gringo, and creates more options with English speaking girls.

I speak next to no Spanish yet and haven't travelled in Latin America.

Researching other posts here, I'll likely stay at Hyatt Place, and visit Cabanas and Veneto, and maybe hire Mario the guide for a day.

I'm a British guy. Late 30's.

CheersGoing all the way to Central America for three days when you speak no Spanish does not make a lot of sense. And when you say you 'don't mind spending extra money' for English speakers (I hope you mean women and not girls), well, that makes it hard for the rest of us, you know!

With that approach, you will end up with a greedy colombiana, but you'll probably think it is a good deal anyway, coming from Europe. And maybe it will be, relatively speaking.

TellAll
10-05-15, 06:53
Going all the way to Central America for three days when you speak no Spanish does not make a lot of sense. And when you say you 'don't mind spending extra money' for English speakers (I hope you mean women and not girls), well, that makes it hard for the rest of us, you know!

With that approach, you will end up with a greedy colombiana, but you'll probably think it is a good deal anyway, coming from Europe. And maybe it will be, relatively speaking.Might be better for him to monger closer to home like Spain. He says he doesn't mind spending extra so there should be no problem.

Lee
10-05-15, 15:45
Hi,

First time poster.

I'm stopping by PTY for 3 nights and looking for advice.

Looking to source quality company over quantity.

I don't mind spending extra money if it means better safety for this solo gringo, and creates more options with English speaking girls.

I speak next to no Spanish yet and haven't travelled in Latin America.

Researching other posts here, I'll likely stay at Hyatt Place, and visit Cabanas and Veneto, and maybe hire Mario the guide for a day.

I'm a British guy. Late 30's.

CheersYou'll find what you are looking for at Habnos or the Veneto. Things don't get going until after 9 or 10:00 PM.

Don't be too worried about the language. I'm an older man with virtually no Spanish and have a wonderful time on my visits there.

Being generous but not stupid along with polite behavior will give you a wonderful evening with an attractive young woman.

Language translators on phones have come a long way. Most of the girls used them.

It is your money and your time do what you like with it.

Lee.

Tiny 12
10-06-15, 00:10
I like the description of golden times. Mechanical lay with a great looking girl. So true. They are hot, and it's a bit mechanical. Almost like a doctors visit. But it gets the job done. Safely, and cleanly. There are showers in the room.The small rooms, massage tables, and the desire of your date to get back to the line-up don't exactly lend themselves to GFE. You might try take out next time. I've gotten good service every time I've done that, except for once which was a total disaster. It costs more. If memory serves me correctly, it's about $150 for an hour and a half and $300 for TLN. And TLN is only until around 5:00 AM, and both times I did that my date tried to leave early. I always had good luck taking women from GT to a love motel in my car. They seem to be happy to get away from the joint. Or maybe they're just extra nice so I'll give them a ride back after we're finished.

Sox1492
10-09-15, 21:41
Just arrived last night. Checked into the Hyatt place around 7 p. Showered and went to Beirut for dinner. Little disappointed because of the great reviews of the place here but fine overall.

Walked by Habanos before and after. Maybe 3 working girls. Best of which was 6.5-7.

Swung by veneto around 8. Completely dead. One or two lonely looking working girls. Maybe 5's at best. Not surprised because it was so early. Just wanted a lay of the land.

Napped and showered again. It's hot and humid as fuck here.

Went to Venetian around midnight. Place was packed with girls. Probably a good 50 or more. Quality not so good. Talent maxed out with a handful of 7's. Didn't talk with any of them bc I want at least an 8 if possible.

Headed to habana' next. Place was jam packed. Like hard to get around packed. Again, best talent maxed around a 7. 5.

I spent about half an hour assessing. Spotted a gorgeous well dressed blonde. Didn't engage yet bc I wanted to see all my options.

Realized that she was by far the hottest. An easy 9 but not a 10. I didn't see her for a while and figured she got scooped up.

Few minutes later, there she was. Venezuelan. I'm not a fan of tit jobs but hers was tastefully done. Would have preferred her au natural but what the hell. She was smoking hot. Her name is something like Alicia. I'm bummed I forgot to get her number.

She initially asked for $300. Probably bc I speak no Spanish and she knew that she was far prettier than anyone there.

We agreed to $200 for two hours.

Walked back to the Hyatt. About ten minute walk.

No issues at all with the front desk. Friendly and courteous. They photocopied her ID and we went upstairs.

I was sweaty as fuck from prowling around outside so took a quick shower. I was pleased that she did too.

Largely a good GFE. We had a drink and chatted a bit. Then she danced and stripped for a while. Hot. As. Fuck.

Good kisser. Not DFK though. Serviceable CBJ. She wouldn't go sin condom. I tried to negotiate that at the bar but she was insistent. Couldn't hurt to ask again right? The sex was great. Not hurried. Good technique. GFE sex. Banged for about an hour maybe hour and a half. I was pretty loaded and had whiskey dick. We hung out chatting and then had one more pop. Really nice experience. Stayed over three hours. Didn't ask for money up front or ever really. I gave her $230.

I was so drunk. Wish I'd gotten her number but she agreed to come back to the hotel today at 7 p. I seriously doubt she'll show. I feel like I've only gotten that to work when I have the girls number and can text to confirm time and place.

I'm here for two more nights. Given the dearth of 8-10's and the overall good service, I'd be willing to book her for at least one more of my nights here.

Anyhow, if you see her, I think she was overall a good package.

Sox1492
10-10-15, 19:06
Her name is Nell. She actually did come and met me at the Hyatt right on time. I was very pleasantly surprised. We ate out and had drinks. Her English isn't as good as I thought it was. Relied heavily on google translate on our phones. I asked for to stay overnight and she simply replied 'of course'. Never asked about money. I gave her $300 this morning.

We came back to the hotel. No issues at the front desk. They remembered her from the previous night. She's hard to forget. She's a looker for sure.

She stripped and teased me for a while. Sex was pretty similar to the previous night. CBJ. Wouldn't budge from that. Sex was excellent. Fucked for about two hours. Chatted and crashed. Woke up around 8 a and fucked again. Breakfast downstairs together. Left around noon.

She coming back at 8 p tonight. Will happily rinse and repeat.

I like a quality provider. At this point I don't want to go trolling around Veneto and Habanos hoping to find the same mix of looks and GFE service.

BTW I stopped by Bocatorena yesterday evening. Around 6 ish? Just wanted to see it. It was already crowded. All locals. Total dive. All local working girls. I stuck out like a sore fucking thumb but I didn't mind. It was fun. Mostly 3-6's. One or two possible finds in there.

PM if you want Nells what's app number.


Just arrived last night. Checked into the Hyatt place around 7 p. Showered and went to Beirut for dinner. Little disappointed because of the great reviews of the place here but fine overall.

Walked by Habanos before and after. Maybe 3 working girls. Best of which was 6.5-7.

Swung by veneto around 8. Completely dead. One or two lonely looking working girls. Maybe 5's at best. Not surprised because it was so early. Just wanted a lay of the land.

Napped and showered again. It's hot and humid as fuck here.

Went to Venetian around midnight. Place was packed with girls. Probably a good 50 or more. Quality not so good. Talent maxed out with a handful of 7's. Didn't talk with any of them bc I want at least an 8 if possible.

Headed to habana' next. Place was jam packed. Like hard to get around packed. Again, best talent maxed around a 7. 5...===============================================

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Rambis Youth
10-11-15, 23:24
Can anyone recommend a laundry in the area (either self service or wash and fold)? The hotel prices are unreasonable and the only two places I can find are dry cleaners.

Seismo
10-12-15, 16:20
Laundry is on Via Veneto.

Walk past the Hotel Las Vegas on the same side of street.

It is on the next corner, just past the Hotel Tryp.

Prices are reasonable, next day pickup.

Rambis Youth
10-12-15, 18:19
Laundry is on Via Veneto.

Walk past the Hotel Las Vegas on the same side of street.

It is on the next corner, just past the Hotel Tryp.

Prices are reasonable, next day pickup.Great tip, thank you!

HandBanana
10-14-15, 14:29
For starters, thank you to the members for the abundance of valuable information you have provided. I decided to go the condo route after reading about the chica fees most of the local hotels charge. Most likely I will start things off with some fun at a spa or two locally. Anyone know if Relax or River are still open on Via Argentina? If not I will visit and report back as I haven't seen much on here lately about them.

Happy mongering to all!

Cunni7
10-15-15, 01:04
I went to Elite recently. I would say most are 6-7. Good for free drinks and dances. Most girls only you want you to go with them which costs $300 for 2 hours, $400 for 3 hours and $700 for all night. What you get all night is up to you. I met a nice Colombian, Erika, I think was her name. She was a good provider. Has anyone had any other great experiences at Elite? I am going back to Panama in 3 weeks. Any specific suggestions on girls you would recommend?

Dave1027
10-15-15, 03:47
I went to Elite recently. I would say most are 6-7. Good for free drinks and dances. Most girls only you want you to go with them which costs $300 for 2 hours, $400 for 3 hours and $700 for all night. What you get all night is up to you. I met a nice Colombian, Erika, I think was her name. She was a good provider. Has anyone had any other great experiences at Elite? I am going back to Panama in 3 weeks. Any specific suggestions on girls you would recommend?I am going to be in Panama City Nov. 5th ,2015 till Nov. 10th,2015. If anyone is going to be there and would like to meet up for the drink. Let me know.

Thanks.

Dave

HandBanana
10-15-15, 04:55
Just finished up with a trip to Relax. I went during the late morning time to see if the place still exists and found an abundance of school kids and young college kids in the parking lot area. I didn't find relax but did see the sign for River massage (or something like that) which was across the parking lot. River appeared to be closed so I didn't investigate further. Later, around 2100 hrs I decided stroll through the neighborhood to walk off my dinner. Swung by the dark parking lot to find both Relax and River to be open. Decided on Relax Oriental. I walked in to find 6 or 7 Latinas sitting on the sofas watching TV and gossiping. They varied from dark to light and slim to a bit thicker (but none were fat). Decided on a morena named Sofia from panama but I suspect she may be Colombian as she had enhanced ass and tits. Overall, not a bad experience but nothing to write home about. Decent massage with lotion, everything covered and it got the job done. (A shower was available but I declined).

$60 to the house for the hour and $20 to the girl (she didn't ask for one but figured it was the standard).

I will check out River soon and report back.

Stay safe!

HandBanana
10-17-15, 02:59
I had time to stop by River Club in El Cangrejo around 2100 hrs the other day. The club is located in a small parking lot just behind Mrs. Mendoza's on Via Argentina. It's opens at 1900 hrs and closes around 0300 hrs Tuesday-Thursday (closed Sunday and Monday). The "manager" was a petite Latina who spoke English well for those of you who don't speak Spanish. Only one girl working which was fine with me. An hour is $90 everything included but I countered with "it's only $60 across the street. " and she reluctantly came down to $70. My "therapist" called herself Bella and spoke Spanish only. She was a 5 or 6 but made up for it later. She's all natural which was a plus for me as I hate fake body parts. Once in the room, I took a quick shower (cold water only) and then we got down to business. She was completely GFE in every way. Never looked at the clock, took it like a champ in every position I requested and finished me off in her mouth without the bag! We spoke for a bit after the fun was over and I was on my way. In all, she was just your average looking Latina (probably a strong 8 ten years ago) but made up for it with her great personality and spirited performance.

I will repeat.

Happy mongering!

Stiffiaus
10-20-15, 04:45
Going all the way to Central America for three days when you speak no Spanish does not make a lot of sense. And when you say you 'don't mind spending extra money' for English speakers (I hope you mean women and not girls), well, that makes it hard for the rest of us, you know!

With that approach, you will end up with a greedy colombiana, but you'll probably think it is a good deal anyway, coming from Europe. And maybe it will be, relatively speaking.Thanks. I should have qualified in my original OP.

I am in town for 3 days as a stopover from Cuba to Guatemala, and actually in Latin America for 6 months.

PTY is the first punting stop.

Cuba was ace, I'll post on a related thread shortly.

BigTony2013
10-23-15, 03:01
Anybody have info on new nightclub at Veneto?

Dave1027
10-24-15, 08:52
Hey guys,

I will be traveling to Panama City, Panama on November 5th thru.

Nov. 10th. Is anyone there on the ground right now. Would like to get some feed.

Back on where to look for hot girls? Which hotel to stay at? Also Bars and Clubs.

To check out?

Thanks,

Dave

Seismo
10-24-15, 17:27
Anybody have info on new nightclub at Veneto?Report on conditions of Casino Veneto.

I was near there in the afternoon a few days ago and needed to use the restroom. The toilet in the sportsbook was closed {as is the sportsbook}.

Next I tried the one by the poker room, that one was out of order. The main restroom on the casino floor next to the cage was open. Only one of the five stalls was operational.

There was a wait for that one.

The Veneto is no longer a decent place to use the restroom even in a semi-emergency.

NOTE.

The casino in the Hilton on Av Balboa has live music on Thurs-Fri-Sat nights. DJ starts around 5 pm, with live music around 7 pm.

Thursday and Friday nights get a good size crowd with mostly regular people who come there after work in the nearby banks and insurance companies.

It takes place in the bar by the sportsbook. Drink specials nightly. Keep in mind that this is an upscale place and there are no hookers there.

Orleans46
10-25-15, 19:15
Just returned from a 4 day trip to Panama. Coral Suites hotel has large comfortable rooms and adequate kitchen and bathroom. Girl friendly, but book a double occupancy room and the staff were very helpful. I speak no Spanish. Every thing is walking distance. Veneto had the best looking girls after 10 pm and the easily negotiated price for a 8 Colombian was a hundred. Habanos was crowded but not better value. A lunch at the Fish Market was basic but delicious. The info on the Forum was helpful and accurate, except that the Oassis Massage is closed.

The Hotel arranged a 4 hour tour of the city, including the Old City and the Canal. Interesting but make sure you finish before 2 pm, the traffic is unbelievable till 7 pm.

Good trip, probably worth a return visit but only if I could do a stopover in Columbia.

Lucky Nuts
10-26-15, 02:46
Just returned from a 4 day trip to Panama. Coral Suites hotel has large comfortable rooms and adequate kitchen and bathroom. Girl friendly, but book a double occupancy room and the staff were very helpful. I speak no Spanish. Every thing is walking distance. Veneto had the best looking girls after 10 pm and the easily negotiated price for a 8 Colombian was a hundred. Habanos was crowded but not better value. A lunch at the Fish Market was basic but delicious. The info on the Forum was helpful and accurate, except that the Oassis Massage is closed.

The Hotel arranged a 4 hour tour of the city, including the Old City and the Canal. Interesting but make sure you finish before 2 pm, the traffic is unbelievable till 7 pm.

Good trip, probably worth a return visit but only if I could do a stopover in Columbia.Good point Orleans and should be emphasized. I've driven rush hours in Chicago, Houston & L. A. And Panama City is the worst I've ever seen anywhere. Don't plan on traveling in this city between 4 & 7 PM, it's absolute gridlock.

For me P.C. is always worth a quick return trip to/from Medellin just to see the latest batch of chicas de cuba. They come and go about every 30 to 60 days. They earn enough to pay for their travel and passage (without visa) through central america and mexico on their way to U.S.

Zorn Of Zorna
10-27-15, 16:04
Does anyone have any recent information on the Radisson Decapolis? I'm trying to decide whether to stay there or at the Torres de Alba in a couple of weeks time. I'll be in PTY for two weeks. I know Torres de Alba should be easy to bring girls back, and I know there will be a charge at least at the Decapolis, but the Decapolis may be preferable for non-hobbying reasons. Am I likely to have problems?

Zorn

Global1810
10-28-15, 22:36
I highly reccomend GT as it is a very nice line up. Hard to choose. Basically you go inside and sit in chairs. Then girls come in with numbers. You are given paper and pencil to write numbers. Talk to girls, check them out until you either find the one you want or continue looking until you see all available. For me it was hard decision as my budget was small and only time for one girl this trip.

I asked for a room with full bed (some just have massage tables). Girl took a shower and came out. Was perfect young girl 20 with no visible flaws in body. Great session with GFE. The only regret I have is staying in rather than taking her to my room for the small extra fee. I was with my girlfriend and it was difficult convincing the staff to allow her in for the threesome. Eventually they allowed. I understand why not good to have non working girl there but my girlfriend wasn't comfortable bringing wg back to room. Just wanted quick threesome action.

Expat1966
10-29-15, 20:39
I have started visiting PC every month or so and am getting a little tired of the Veneto / Habanos scene. Women with asses that look like the back end of a GMC Pacer make my skin crawl. And the Cubanas at the Veneto are nice enough to chat with but tend to be all business when you get them back to the room.

Anyone have any advice on where the semi-pros hang out? Is it mainly in the clubs on Uruguay?

SportMongr
11-01-15, 09:42
Was thinking about expanding my horizon's and venturing to panama and Costa Rica for the 1st time. After reading 3 pages of posts. I am shocked! People are spending 200-500 $ for 2 hrs. Of CBJ action with some kissing?? Hoolllly coowww! If that's the case. I may have to reconsider: (.