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RainMan270
05-19-16, 01:26
ROTFLMAO. Who in the heck told you that?OK. Excuse me, I should once again expound. According to RealCostaRica.com, prostitution is legal in CR. Prostitutes who register can be examined by a doctor every 15 days and the government pays for it. Not necessarily "tested". Don't know if that's cultured, HIV etc. So bottom line, use Condo.

Dickhead
05-19-16, 06:29
OK. Excuse me, I should once again expound. According to RealCostaRica.com, prostitution is legal in CR. Prostitutes who register can be examined by a doctor every 15 days and the government pays for it. Not necessarily "tested". Don't know if that's cultured, HIV etc. So bottom line, use Condo.My naïve friend, please know that there is a difference between 'can be tested', 'will be tested', 'must be tested', etc. When it comes to Latin America. Be further aware that ALL of these phrases are bullshit. Like in CR, any woman can walk into the Del Rey. So how can testing be enforced? My advice is to forego condoms, which could break, fall off, etc. , and stick your dick directly into a bottle of bleach after sex. Also you should autoclave your dick every six weeks. That will kill any AIDS virus that may linger.

GauntMan
05-19-16, 07:01
My nave friend, please know that there is a difference between 'can be tested', 'will be tested', 'must be tested', etc. When it comes to Latin America. Be further aware that ALL of these phrases are bullshit. Like in CR, any woman can walk into the Del Rey. So how can testing be enforced? My advice is to forego condoms, which could break, fall off, etc. , and stick your dick directly into a bottle of bleach after sex. Also you should autoclave your dick every six weeks. That will kill any AIDS virus that may linger.Well the only working girls that are due enforced to get checked every week, are the ones working at brothels like Capri, Gruta Azul, LE Palace, Elite, not sure about La Mayor and La Bocatoreña, since the last 2 give work to freelancers that not necesarily live in the premises.

RainMan270
05-19-16, 16:52
My nave friend, please know that there is a difference between 'can be tested', 'will be tested', 'must be tested', etc. When it comes to Latin America. Be further aware that ALL of these phrases are bullshit. Like in CR, any woman can walk into the Del Rey. So how can testing be enforced? My advice is to forego condoms, which could break, fall off, etc. , and stick your dick directly into a bottle of bleach after sex. Also you should autoclave your dick every six weeks. That will kill any AIDS virus that may linger.Thanks for the advice. I've been in the hobby off and on for 30 yrs, so I don't think I' m that naive. How long you been in it?

Fact: Incidence of HIV in CR 0.2-0.3 %.

Fact: male: female ratio of HIV infection in 11:1 which means, majority of men who get it are homosexual or bisexual, common denominator homosexual activity. The anus isn't meant to be stretched like the vagina, therefore more trauma ensues.

Fact: A male is at risk if he has on open sore on penis.

Condom break? WTF. Yeah, that's pretty common.

Stick my dick in bleach? I bet your parents told you that you would grow hair on your hands and go blind if you masturbated. The Puritan Forum is the other one.

Kyle Fox
05-19-16, 16:56
I arrived in the airport at 1 am, got to Panama City about 2 am.

I booked Hotel El Parador for $40 on hotels.com. Down the street from Hampton by Hilton. Basic hotel, but suffices for sleeping. Reminds me a bit of Sosua hotels with better windows. Mostly just needed to sleep and wake up to move over the Hyatt Place this afternoon. Why pay $100/ night when checking in alone at 2:15 am?

My first time in Panama. I post some more reports later.

Kyle Fox
05-21-16, 21:52
Thursday night.

I staked out Habano's Café on Thursday night. I got there around 9:15 pm and it was pretty quite. By 9:30 pm there was a decent amount of people, probably 70% chica / 30% guy ratio. Girls from Colombia (70% DR (15%) Panama and Cuba (15%) I'd estimate based a Colombiana's knowledge. She says she mostly can tell by the face and body where someone is from. I took a walk over to Venetto for about 45 minutes but otherwise I kept a good watch on Habano's the whole night. By 10 pm the place was in full swing with a good complement of chicas.

I was drinking soda and water. These cost just $2 each and tipped $1. I sat in empty seats at times without issues. On Friday when it was crowded I was told I needed to purchase a drink costing $8 or more to get a seat.

The chicas: At 9:30 pm I was a bit disappointed with the chicas. By 10 pm I definitely saw a few 8's to 8. 5 and possibly 9's depending on your standards. I say most women were in the 6-7. 5 on a scale of 1-10. A lot of woman had beautiful long-dark straight hair. Very few skinny women and small number of average sized. Most had big butts and legs, some unnaturally augmented. I'm no fan of butt implants and that almost always disqualifies a woman for me. Breast implants I like when done well. Most women were probably 22-28 years of age. Possibly a few a few under 22 and definitely several over 28. Overall the group appeared to be a lot of experienced regulars. Many would initiate conversations talking about going to my hotel.

Maybe 30-40% of the women contribute to the "mosquito effect". They come by unsolicited, generally unwanted, touch you or say Hello, try to start a conversation. I would politely say no thank you or I don't want to waste your time (in Spanish) and few mosquitos kept biting for another minute or so before my silent treatment had them moving on. I don't like a woman approaching unless I've told her with my eyes that I'm interested.

Overall I really like a freelance bar like this with no fines and no minimums. Only thing really missing for me is that I love the 18-21 college-aged girl / part-timer vibe and more girls of slender builds.

Eventually I selected an attractive Venezualana chica (an 8 on 1-10 scale) around 2 am largely for her attitude. Who wanted $150. I told her $100 plus bonus if she was very affectionate. She was worked out pretty well. I was in a bit of a quiet mood and she was very pleasant about it. No rush.

Duchovnyd7
05-22-16, 01:45
Anyone have any experience with a cute little spinner from Colombia called Erika. She use to work at elite and now is at Habanos regularly. Kyle Fox, did you meet up with any Erika?

Thanks.

Xkalibur80
05-22-16, 02:07
Not a bad start. I am arriving Monday night at 11 pm so by the time I get to the hotel and Habanos, it will be 1 am.

PM me if anybody is in Panama.


Thursday night.

I staked out Habano's Caf on Thursday night. I got there around 9:15 pm and it was pretty quite. By 9:30 pm there was a decent amount of people, probably 70% chica / 30% guy ratio. Girls from Colombia (70% DR (15%) Panama and Cuba (15%) I'd estimate based a Colombiana's knowledge. She says she mostly can tell by the face and body where someone is from. I took a walk over to Venetto for about 45 minutes but otherwise I kept a good watch on Habano's the whole night. By 10 pm the place was in full swing with a good complement of chicas.

I was drinking soda and water. These cost just $2 each and tipped $1. I sat in empty seats at times without issues. On Friday when it was crowded I was told I needed to purchase a drink costing $8 or more to get a seat.

The chicas: At 9:30 pm I was a bit disappointed with the chicas. By 10 pm I definitely saw a few 8's to 8. 5 and possibly 9's depending on your standards..

Kyle Fox
05-22-16, 07:47
Friday 5/20.

My plan for Friday was to scope out the Venetto to hunt for a Cubana. I've met several Cubanas in Fort.

Lauderdale in gentlemen's clubs. Many have been very sexy and several have had tight little bodies. There was none of this at.

Venetto. On average the women were 10-25 pounds heavier and 3-5 years older than the women at Habano's. I.

Hung around from 9:30-10:30 pm and didn't see any improvement. Then I gave up and went back towards Habanos.

I walked past Habanos and went down towards Ashe and another "normal" nightclub down the street from Hooters.

And not too far from Elite. Ashe was very quiet compared to Habano's, probably 10-12 women, 3 guys in the place.

I circled the few blocks around this area and saw a TGI Fridays, a Buffalo Wild Wings, Crepes and Waffles, an.

MVP Sports bar. There are tons of American-style dining opens in the city.

There was a line of 18-22 year olds going into a club called Audioground or something similar to that name. Most were.

Dressed very casually. There were a couple other nights clubs around but there were no lines to see what.

Type of clientele they attracted.

Around 12 am I went back to Habanos. I spotted a 5'3" Colombiana from Barranquilla who beautiful long hair.

With a small ripple curl going through it. She had a petite body, slender legs, completely flat stomach.

She reminded me of the woman in the Michael Jackson "The Way you make me Feel" video. Not as tall or as.

Quite as pretty, but damn close. I approached her and was friendly and happy to a have "get to know you".

Conversation. Very nice girl is 23, been to Panama multiple times for 1-2 month visits. She wanted $150.

Per hour. I tried negotiating to $100 plus bonus but she didn't go for it. I told her I wanted DFK and she.

Said she was open to that and definitely would be a relaxed, no-rush time. I gave in. Because she had been.

Friendly and she was my top pick of all the women I saw over 2 nights.

She ended up being quite good, semi-GFE. She kissed and caressed but didn't lose herself into full GFE mode.

I extended her to 1. 5 hours for $200. Her body is / was freaking awesome if you light petite-toned women. I.

Would strongly recommend her. To find her just look for one of the most petite, slender woman with long.

Ripple-curl hair. All 3 nights I saw her in the club she wore a top that showed her flat stomach and.

Arms / shoulders.

I had her visit Saturday daytime for 1 hour, 30 minutes for $160. She brought lubricant this time which.

Greatly enhanced the experience.

El Patron24
05-23-16, 22:59
Friday 5/20.

My plan for Friday was to scope out the Venetto to hunt for a Cubana. I've met several Cubanas in Fort.

Lauderdale in gentlemen's clubs. Many have been very sexy and several have had tight little bodies. There was none of this at.

Venetto.Good reports Kyle.

If you can get any of the Cubanas numbers at Habanos or Veneto, they are likely to have lower prices for a day time romp. The Colombian girls are using the name "Cubanas" as a derogatory term, saying they are lowering the going prices in Panama. However, the Cubanas will not typically be cheaper at night at Habanos, because they tend to stick to the expected going rates.

RuffRyder
05-24-16, 02:57
Hey guys,

Just wanted to give my 2 cents because I am really appreciative of learning so much from everyone else's experiences and I must say I definitely had a lot of worthy advice prior to landing.

Anyways, let's get to it.

1) I stayed at the Sheraton Convention Center (Calle Uruguay / ATLAPA Convention Center), they charge $50 per chica to go to the room (which sucks because they never did that before).

The adjacent Aloft hotel (also Starwood group) charges as well. Cool hotel but lots of security and too much staff, so it's hard to sneak chicas in.

2) Visited Veneto and Habanos Tues 17th. Thur 19th about 10 pm, lots of girls but the same girls over and over again. Going rate standard $150 but you can break them down to $100 easily.

You can even go lower to $80 around 2 am-4 am because what was funny that I saw is that most of the girls don't get picked up and just keep walking around. Too much competition.

3) Be on the lookout for the Colombians why Venezuelans, they're making it bad for everyone. They tend to charge high and want to run things in Panama because I guess they're more beautiful.

And exotic. The Cubans / Panama / DR girls are way more nicer. But at the end of the day everyone is about their money! Remember that, which all of you all know.

4) Drinks per bucket of miller lite (6 bottles) at Veneto is $15 plus tip and tax= $17.55 USD.

Bottle of J&B Scotch Whisky is $45 and you get ice & 2 chasers.

5) Many girls say "Come on let's go party" making it seem as if you're going to get a GFE, fuck no! My brother was drunk, it was his birthday so about 3 am, he pulled this girl. She was a 7 at max but I know he was drunk hence his poor decision. Didn't want to spoil it for him so I just went with the flow. I had my eyes on 2 girls but ended up going with the girl's friend, an 8.5.

Yes, I know big cardinal mistake I made and I ultimately paid the price.

Arriving at hotel, got ambushed by the security and front reception, ended up paying the $100 for 2 girls because didn't want to cause a scene and the girls are like right there.

Upon entering the room, the whole "let's have a party scene" changed. Clothes off and they're ready. I was like wdf. They're clock watchers. One girls super experiences, one girl not.

Long story short because I was pissed off, in about 30 minutes they were ready to go. Ended up smoking in the bathroom. Also, they wanted money up front. Didn't want to take half up front, half at end.

Ending up giving in, yes I know I'm a fucking asshole. But being heavily intoxicated I didn't care and gave in. Anyways, the girl didn't want to kiss much, she couldn't take hard fucking and she seemed inexperienced.

Carried her to bathroom, she couldn't handle it either. Wish I took pics but they didn't want to drink. Also hard taking photos in Veneto as security all around.

Anyways, I couldn't cum and I just wanted them out after because they kept asking for more money like if we wanted to run a train, etc. I had a bad first experience really.

But if I had listened to you Vets, I would've come out unscathed!

All in all lesson learnt, and just had to suck it up and move on.

6) BTW, I saw the girls the next night at Veneto and told them they were total bitches and they shouldn't lie. Other girls told me apparently they're notorious for that. Just be careful. Can't even remember their names, that's how messed up we were.

7) Habanos is the ultimate spot, but those girls there are like vultures, Jesus LOL.

Got to go now, but will give anything else that comes to mind. Or any other advice. I used UBER a lot which was super cheap, safe, etc. I got lots of numbers and befriended most of the girls at Venetos so they're my friends now, hehehe.

BTW, if you want awesome freaking seafood, go to La Casa Mariscos, bit expensive but simply exquisite food! Really upscale place. Everyone was well dressed, we were in jeans.

Thanks again for the advice and really appreciate the candid feedback guys! Keep it going. It's not about us, it's about those who came before us and gave back and the ones who come ater and will also give back!

Salut,

RuffRyder

Duchovnyd7
05-24-16, 04:34
Gents,

Please be aware I had some interaction with a Colombian from Elite called Erika. I just got confirmation that she has tested positive for HIV. She had to leave Elite and is now working solo at Habanos. All please be aware. I have some pics or here I can post later.

RainMan270
05-24-16, 16:04
Gents,

Please be aware I had some interaction with a Colombian from Elite called Erika. I just got confirmation that she has tested positive for HIV. She had to leave Elite and is now working solo at Habanos. All please be aware. I have some pics or here I can post later.Appreciate pics of her.

Xkalibur80
05-24-16, 16:07
Good report sir. We all learn from experiences and I still tend to do what you just described.

I was at Habanos last night and boy was it a shit show! Hardly any girls but most likely due to it being a Monday. I am expecting a better show tonight and will post a report later.


Hey guys,

Just wanted to give my 2 cents because I am really appreciative of learning so much from everyone else's experiences and I must say I definitely had a lot of worthy advice prior to landing.

Anyways, let's get to it.

1) I stayed at the Sheraton Convention Center (Calle Uruguay / ATLAPA Convention Center), they charge $50 per chica to go to the room (which sucks because they never did that before).

The adjacent Aloft hotel (also Starwood group) charges as well. Cool hotel but lots of security and too much staff, so it's hard to sneak chicas in.

2) Visited Veneto and Habanos Tues 17th. Thur 19th about 10 pm, lots of girls but the same girls over and over again. Going rate standard $150 but you can break them down to $100 easily.

You can even go lower to $80 around 2 am-4 am because what was funny that I saw is that most of the girls don't get picked up and just keep walking around. Too much competition.

3) Be on the lookout for the Colombians why Venezuelans, they're making it bad for everyone. They tend to charge high and want to run things in Panama because I guess they're more beautiful.

And exotic. The Cubans / Panama / DR girls are way more nicer. But at the end of the day everyone is about their money! Remember that, which all of you all know...

El Patron24
05-24-16, 19:20
Gents,

Please be aware I had some interaction with a Colombian from Elite called Erika. I just got confirmation that she has tested positive for HIV. She had to leave Elite and is now working solo at Habanos. All please be aware. I have some pics or here I can post later.Sounds a little fishy. So she just texted you and told you she was HIV positive and you happen to see her at Habanos now? You were just asking someone if they had seen her the other day.

Give us some more details about her and I am sure one of us will see her soon. Hopefully this isn't some chick you are stalking.

RainMan270
05-25-16, 02:44
Sounds a little fishy. So she just texted you and told you she was HIV positive and you happen to see her at Habanos now? You were just asking someone if they had seen her the other day.

Give us some more details about her and I am sure one of us will see her soon. Hopefully this isn't some chick you are stalking.That was my initial reaction. Who told you she was HIV positive? Did she tell you that? Why would she tell you she was HIV positive? Why would anyone tell somebody that and effectively end their earning potential? Are the clinics who do the testing obligated to tell their employers? That would be a huge HIPPA violation in the US. Did one of her competitors spread that around? Did Dickhead ask you to post that to support his position that HIV is so prevalent in the hobby?

Mfins
05-25-16, 03:37
Hey guys,

Just wanted to give my 2 cents because I am really appreciative of learning so much from everyone else's experiences and I must say I definitely had a lot of worthy advice prior to landing.

Anyways, let's get to it.

1) I stayed at the Sheraton Convention Center (Calle Uruguay / ATLAPA Convention Center), they charge $50 per chica to go to the room (which sucks because they never did that before).

The adjacent Aloft hotel (also Starwood group) charges as well. Cool hotel but lots of security and too much staff, so it's hard to sneak chicas in.

2) Visited Veneto and Habanos Tues 17th. Thur 19th about 10 pm, lots of girls but the same girls over and over again. Going rate standard $150 but you can break them down to $100 easily.

You can even go lower to $80 around 2 am-4 am because what was funny that I saw is that most of the girls don't get picked up and just keep walking around. Too much competition.

3) Be on the lookout for the Colombians why Venezuelans, they're making it bad for everyone. They tend to charge high and want to run things in Panama because I guess they're more beautiful.

And exotic. The Cubans / Panama / DR girls are way more nicer. But at the end of the day everyone is about their money! Remember that, which all of you all know.

4) Drinks per bucket of miller lite (6 bottles) at Veneto is $15 plus tip and tax= $17.55 USD.

Bottle of J&B Scotch Whisky is $45 and you get ice & 2 chasers.

5) Many girls say "Come on let's go party" making it seem as if you're going to get a GFE, fuck no! My brother was drunk, it was his birthday so about 3 am, he pulled this girl. She was a 7 at max but I know he was drunk hence his poor decision. Didn't want to spoil it for him so I just went with the flow. I had my eyes on 2 girls but ended up going with the girl's friend, an 8.5.

Yes, I know big cardinal mistake I made and I ultimately paid the price.

Arriving at hotel, got ambushed by the security and front reception, ended up paying the $100 for 2 girls because didn't want to cause a scene and the girls are like right there.

Upon entering the room, the whole "let's have a party scene" changed. Clothes off and they're ready. I was like wdf. They're clock watchers. One girls super experiences, one girl not.

Long story short because I was pissed off, in about 30 minutes they were ready to go. Ended up smoking in the bathroom. Also, they wanted money up front. Didn't want to take half up front, half at end.

Ending up giving in, yes I know I'm a fucking asshole. But being heavily intoxicated I didn't care and gave in. Anyways, the girl didn't want to kiss much, she couldn't take hard fucking and she seemed inexperienced.

Carried her to bathroom, she couldn't handle it either. Wish I took pics but they didn't want to drink. Also hard taking photos in Veneto as security all around.

Anyways, I couldn't cum and I just wanted them out after because they kept asking for more money like if we wanted to run a train, etc. I had a bad first experience really.

But if I had listened to you Vets, I would've come out unscathed!

All in all lesson learnt, and just had to suck it up and move on.

6) BTW, I saw the girls the next night at Veneto and told them they were total bitches and they shouldn't lie. Other girls told me apparently they're notorious for that. Just be careful. Can't even remember their names, that's how messed up we were.

7) Habanos is the ultimate spot, but those girls there are like vultures, Jesus LOL.

Got to go now, but will give anything else that comes to mind. Or any other advice. I used UBER a lot which was super cheap, safe, etc. I got lots of numbers and befriended most of the girls at Venetos so they're my friends now, hehehe.

BTW, if you want awesome freaking seafood, go to La Casa Mariscos, bit expensive but simply exquisite food! Really upscale place. Everyone was well dressed, we were in jeans.

Thanks again for the advice and really appreciate the candid feedback guys! Keep it going. It's not about us, it's about those who came before us and gave back and the ones who come ater and will also give back!

Salut,

RuffRyderI agree about La Casa Mariscos. Great Food. Upscale. The shrimp plate is excellent. Panama in General does not have the best food / service compared to other countries. La Casa Mariscos is the exception.

I can completely relate to you saying you were drunk and then having the problems you did. We drink pretty heavy when we go out and, the girls notice it. They will always try to take advantage and being super drunk you can either choose to argue and cause a major scene or just suck it up and pay more. I used to fight just on principle and to prove a point but I, realized it ruined my night so now I just know I am going to overpay if I am wasted.

Dickhead
05-25-16, 15:48
Did Dickhead ask you to post that to support his position that HIV is so prevalent in the hobby?I think you misinterpreted my earlier post, which was aimed at getting people to realize that testing hookers is a waste of time. I do not believe that AIDS can be easily transmitted by heterosexual activity. However, there are still plenty of HIV-positive providers.

Xkalibur80
05-26-16, 01:18
Started the night at a bar beside red lion and caught the Golden State vs Oklahoma game. Overpriced food and drinks but I like the environment. Servers there were not that hot and looked rather young.

Reached Habanos by 10 pm and compared to previous Tuesdays, both the quality and quantity was on the light side. Quite a few 6's and 7's and no real stunners. While thinking that the night would be a bust again, I was tapped on the shoulder by this Brazilian chick from Manaus. Looks like we have some more diversity gents but she is the first Brazilian chick that I have met in Panama.

Right off the bat, we had a great connection. Decent in English so that made the conversation flow nicely. She was very sensual with DFK right in the joint! Go back to Hyatt and boy did the foreplay last forever. It was like I paid her for that. Did not ask for money upfront and I had to actually give to her when she was leaving. I asked for an hour but she ended up staying for 4! Total GFE and a real sweetheart. Was kind of easy to tell that she was relatively new to the business but was a great sales person. LOL.

She flew to Orlando today and I will be sure to pay her a visit in her Disney World!

Day 3 to come.

BatInTheCity
05-26-16, 18:39
Started the night at a bar beside red lion and caught the Golden State vs Oklahoma game. Overpriced food and drinks but I like the environment. Servers there were not that hot and looked rather young.

Reached Habanos by 10 pm and compared to previous Tuesdays, both the quality and quantity was on the light side. Quite a few 6's and 7's and no real stunners. While thinking that the night would be a bust again, I was tapped on the shoulder by this Brazilian chick from Manaus. Looks like we have some more diversity gents but she is the first Brazilian chick that I have met in Panama.

Right off the bat, we had a great connection. Decent in English so that made the conversation flow nicely. She was very sensual with DFK right in the joint! Go back to Hyatt and boy did the foreplay last forever. It was like I paid her for that. Did not ask for money upfront and I had to actually give to her when she was leaving. I asked for an hour but she ended up staying for 4! Total GFE and a real sweetheart. Was kind of easy to tell that she was relatively new to the business but was a great sales person. LOL.

She flew to Orlando today and I will be sure to pay her a visit in her Disney World!

Day 3 to come.Great reading about a solid night from Habanos. Now we have reports about girls from Panama, Cuba, Colombia, Venezuela, and Brazil. Panama is a melting pot for sure. And the big clue in this report is the OP had a connection with the Babe in Habanos first. Very important.

I had a solid week there last week with a chick I picked up in Habanos last February. I told her I was coming, and she spent 5 great nights with me. She's a 25 year old beauty from Colombia. We enjoyed the Hyatt of course where I registered her for just 15 bucks extra per night, and I especially made good use of the rooftop pool during the day with her. Brought up some beers, Baileys and tunes, and we pretty much had the pool to ourselves. Talk about your Hef grotto fantasies.

Needless to say, I am a big fan of Panama. It's like the whole town is set up to party hardy.

RainMan270
05-27-16, 00:34
I think you misinterpreted my earlier post, which was aimed at getting people to realize that testing hookers is a waste of time. I do not believe that AIDS can be easily transmitted by heterosexual activity. However, there are still plenty of HIV-positive providers.I don't think I misinterpreted your post at all. In fact you even said it again: "there are still plenty of HIV-positive providers". "The sky is falling, the sky is falling!" "Warning, warning, danger will Robinson, danger! Dude, do you work for Jerry Falwell or Pat Robertson? You're agenda is obvious. When is the last time you mongered?

I was always taught that if you ever say anything without an article to back you up you're "talking Bullshit", so I would like to reference a very nice study from 2013 re: the incidence of HIV in Panama.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3595153/ The salient points are:

1. Unregistered FSW's (female sex workers) have a much higher incidence of HIV.

2. 80% of unregistered FSW's are Panamanian (low education, poverty level, increased percent of unprotected sex with bi-sexual, IV users, anal sex).

So it would seem, despite your pronunciation, that being registered and being tested is important.

And the summarization:

Key messages.

•HIV prevalence was low among female sex workers in Panama.

•Unregistered sex workers had a higher burden of HIV and sexually transmitted infections (STI).

•Four factors, HSV-2, forced sex, having a history of STIs and registration status, were associated with syphilis.

•Prevention interventions for medical management of STIs among unregistered sex workers should be a priority.

Next time, do a little research before you make un-educated if not naive statements, my friend.

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EDITOR's NOTE: This report was originally written in ALL CAPITAL LETTERING and thus was edited to normal case text. Writing in ALL CAPITAL LETTERING in the internet equivalent of shouting and is thus is prohibited on this forum.

In the future, please do not write reports in ALL CAPITAL LETTERING. Thanks!

YippieKayay
05-27-16, 04:44
I was always taught that if you ever say anything without an article to back you up you're "talking Bullshit", so I would like to reference a very nice study from 2013 re: the incidence of HIV in Panama.
I posted this a year or two ago:

http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/risk/estimates/riskbehaviors.html

Transmission rates per 10,000 exposures are pretty low. The highest risk behaviors is receptive anal and blood transfusions. In fact, outside of blood transfusions you have less than 1% chance of receiving the HIV virus with any of the behaviors listed.

Yes, it's completely possible to catch the bug on your first intercourse but you are more likely to get it over time by continuing with these behaviors.

Xkalibur80
05-28-16, 19:40
Day 3 brought a great deal of rain and I was worried that it might continue into the evening. Since I didn't want to risk of it being a waste of a day (I was also flying the very next morning at 6 am), I went for a repeat of my last trip. A petite Colombian with slightly enhanced breasts. She was a treat as we have kept in touch since my last trip and the session was truly enjoyable. I took her out for lunch which I am sure added to the experience.

Rain stopped and my friend and I went to Hooters to catch the Cavs vs Raptots game. Waitresses were all Colombians with a couple of them worth taking back to the hotel but we didn't indulge.

Head over to Ashe for an hour and it was pretty dead. At this point, we had no other choice but to head back to Habanos. What a turnaround from the first two nights!! Place was now packed with girls with a few stunners. I spoke to a chica from Honduras who was a 9! Settled for $100 but I got this weird feeling that she would be mechanical and there was hardly any chemistry during the negotiation plus she was pushing me to take her back to the hotel. I cut her loose right away.

Started talking to this Peruvian chick who also spoke a bit of English. Go back to the hotel and now I was 3 for 3 on great sessions. Never been in this situation before and I figured what did the trick:

1. don't fall for the best looking chick.

2. Look for a connection during the conversation. Totally helps with the experience.

3. Negotiate based on the experience in the room vs the actual activities I. E. BBBJ, DATY etc. I did not ask for any but got it regardless!

Maybe I got lucky this time! Nevertheless, an awesome trip!

Kyle Fox
05-29-16, 23:11
Two of my nights in Panama I stopped into the Venetto and played some Blackjack. On the first night I lost $80 and left. On the 2nd night, I hit a blackjack on the 3rd hand and the dealer only paid me $5 back on my $5 bet. Normally blackjack will pay 2-1 or 1. 5 to 1. I complained and the dealer explained that this was "Venetto 21" and not Blackjack. WTF? I looked around and quickly noticed that they had 1 actual blackjack table and 5 Venetto 21 (V21) tables disguised as blackjack tables.

As a one-time semi-pro blackjack player, I know that paying out 1-1 on blackjack greatly increases the house's odd, from a 52% - 48% edge to approximately 57% - 43% edge. That is a huge advantage. The fact that they are disguising V21 tables to look like blackjack tables is downright crooked.

I learned that Venetto is a Spanish word meaing "bend over and spread your checks wide".

After realizing the fake blackjack table scam, I advised the other players about to sit at my table "Don't play, this is a fake blackjack table. They are deceiving people here" and got up to leave. I took my $70 to the cashier to cash out. Upon cashing out, I learned that I had to pay at 5. 5% government tax. Panana's government passed "Law 23" in 2015 which requires a gambling tax to be collected by all casinos.

This means, if you cash in for $500 at a blackjack table, play 2 hands, win 1 and lose 1, and then cash out your $500 at the cashier cage, you will walk away with $472.50.

I was outraged. For me it was only about a $5 loss, but I was completely upset that they only informed me when I went to cash out (at which point I didn't have any choice). If they had a big sign at the entrance saying "Panama's government collects 5. 5% upon all cash outs" then I would say that I knew the risks going in there.

I yelled at the cashier, told them in Spanish it was "This is completely unfair. You must tell me before I start gambling, not after I'm done. You are robbing me!" She said it is the government law. I said "then you are robbing everyone! She actually sheepishly nodded in acknowledgement of what I said.

I will never spend a fucking dime in a Panama casino!

Kyle Fox
05-29-16, 23:46
ONLINE CONTACTS.

Before my Panama trip, I made a fair effort to make some contacts online with Tagged and Seeking Arrangements. I even tried Tinder in country. I got several responses from women with attractive pictures and told them I would be visiting in 1 week. They seemed excited and eager to meet me. Upon arrival, I said I'm here and worked to arrangement dates. For all my effort, I met no one. I got a lot of "I can't today" or just no reply to my whatsapp message (or a reply 4 hours later). At * at # I wanted to scream loudly in the ears of these women for being so damn wish-washy and wasting my time. I was really thinking I could make a good connection for a GFE and have repeated sessions with 1 of them.

FINAL NIGHT AT HABANOS.

The night I left, I had to leave for the airport at midnight for a 2 am flight. I walked to Habanos around 9:30 pm relatively satisfied from a late afternoon session and mostly planned just to look. However I was open to pull someone out "if I got inspired". With the pressure off, I found myself a lot more chatty and conversational than the other nights. I had no attachment to taking someone out or being liked by someone or worrying about chica politics since I only had a few more hours in Panama. I talked to a few very attractive women who I learned were from Venezuela. Two had beautiful, straight long-brown hair. Both wanted $150 and didn't seem willing to budge. As the clock was winding down to 45 minutes left, I got mesmerized by that beautiful long brown hair. I asked 1 of the Venezuelanas if she would go to my room "only to kiss and cuddle with your clothes on". I offered $50 for 15 minutes. She said no, "I could never leave for that". I said, you wanted $150 per hour, I'm willing to pay you a rate of $200 an hour and you don't even have to remove your clothes. I've seen you waiting here for 2 hours without leaving with anyone. " She declined. Stupid *****. I told her she should go back to school for mathematics. I don't get it. I think if I would have told her I wanted to watch TV with her for 15 minutes she still would have declined because the only thing she computed was "I'm leaving here for only $50".

FINAL THOUGHTS ON PANAMA.

I have traveled to Saint Marten, the Dominican Republic, 4 cities in Colombia and Buenos Aires in the past 8-9 years. I would prefer all those locations to Panama. I really like the experience of being in a foreign country, I like being near a beach (Cartagena, Puerto Plata, Sosua, St. Marten), I like getting immersed in the local culture and flavor of the country. I like some degree of exploring a lesser developed country. Panama City is a large city not too different from big cities in the United States. It has some beautiful high-rise office buildings downtown. You can use the US dollar and eat all American-style food at American chain restaurants (Hooters, TGIF, Buffalo Wild Wings, Pizza Hut, Subway, McDonald's, KFC). For many those could be advantages to visiting Panama and make it more attractive. (nothing wrong with that). I think I like and expect my excursions outside the US to be a little less uncivilized or at least un-American to some degree.

Thanks to everyone who is sharing information on these boards. Happy traveling.

Hedonist2008
06-01-16, 05:04
I am going on my first trip to Panama this week. I am staying at Veneto Hotel and Casino. Does the hotel charge for taking a lady to the room or staying overnight? Also, any recommendations of women who I should seek out that frequent Veneto.

Thanks in advance.

Mortega
06-01-16, 20:29
I am going on my first trip to Panama this week. I am staying at Veneto Hotel and Casino. Does the hotel charge for taking a lady to the room or staying overnight? Also, any recommendations of women who I should seek out that frequent Veneto.

Thanks in advance.I went there 4 months ago and this what I learned. There are chicks to be had at your price in the morning and afternoon. Security starts checking after4. 00 pm.

So you can take them to the room without anybody noticing anything and no fee. But in the evening when the chicks start rolling in the security start checking.

Everybody that gets into the elevators. 50 dollars is the chica fee for the chick to come to your room. What we did choose your girl and get a 15 dollar room.

At a short time hotel. The best way to go if you want the best bang for the buck.

RainMan270
06-01-16, 21:58
I will be in PTY 6/2-6/5 at the Hyatt. Anyone want to grab a beer, PM me.

Lee
06-02-16, 13:50
I am going on my first trip to Panama this week. I am staying at Veneto Hotel and Casino. Does the hotel charge for taking a lady to the room or staying overnight? Also, any recommendations of women who I should seek out that frequent Veneto.

Thanks in advance.I would suggest you move too the Hyatt. No charge for guest much better Hotel.

Lee.

YippieKayay
06-02-16, 16:15
I am going on my first trip to Panama this week. I am staying at Veneto Hotel and Casino. Does the hotel charge for taking a lady to the room or staying overnight? Also, any recommendations of women who I should seek out that frequent Veneto.

Thanks in advance.If you can cancel the Veneto. High chica fee and the hotel has gone down hill.

Stay at the Hyatt. You can walk to the Veneto in 5 minutes, or pay two bucks to a cab to take you there. The last time I stayed at the Hyatt I could walk to the Veneto or Habanos and I had no problems.

Chrisr321
06-02-16, 23:51
Headed to Panama in a month. Your reports are encouraging! I live in Orlando! Is your Brazilian friend here "working"?


Started the night at a bar beside red lion and caught the Golden State vs Oklahoma game. Overpriced food and drinks but I like the environment. Servers there were not that hot and looked rather young.

Reached Habanos by 10 pm and compared to previous Tuesdays, both the quality and quantity was on the light side. Quite a few 6's and 7's and no real stunners. While thinking that the night would be a bust again, I was tapped on the shoulder by this Brazilian chick from Manaus. Looks like we have some more diversity gents but she is the first Brazilian chick that I have met in Panama.

Right off the bat, we had a great connection. Decent in English so that made the conversation flow nicely. She was very sensual with DFK right in the joint! Go back to Hyatt and boy did the foreplay last forever. It was like I paid her for that. Did not ask for money upfront and I had to actually give to her when she was leaving. I asked for an hour but she ended up staying for 4! Total GFE and a real sweetheart. Was kind of easy to tell that she was relatively new to the business but was a great sales person. LOL.

She flew to Orlando today and I will be sure to pay her a visit in her Disney World!

Day 3 to come.

Expat17
06-03-16, 05:18
Hi,

Was just curious if any of you have had experiences with any escorts from the Panamanian website of backpage? I ask because some of escorts I'm interested have sketchy pictures, and when I contacted them for a picture or a video, they declined. Could these be some kind of fraud or police stings?

Thanks in advance!

YippieKayay
06-03-16, 19:27
Hi,

Was just curious if any of you have had experiences with any escorts from the Panamanian website of backpage? I ask because some of escorts I'm interested have sketchy pictures, and when I contacted them for a picture or a video, they declined. Could these be some kind of fraud or police stings?

Thanks in advance!It is certainly not a sting. Prostitution is alive and well in Panama with no real laws against it.

You are better off going to Habanos, Veneto, and other places like massage parlors if you are concerned about bait and switch. Frankly, I never understood the need for escort services in Panama. There are plenty of prostitutes walking around.

RainMan270
06-04-16, 02:24
It is certainly not a sting. Prostitution is alive and well in Panama with no real laws against it.

You are better off going to Habanos, Veneto, and other places like massage parlors if you are concerned about bait and switch. Frankly, I never understood the need for escort services in Panama. There are plenty of prostitutes walking around.Check out Wanuncios for Panama. I just had a hot 22 yr old from Colombia named Andrea. Skinny, DATY, BBBJ, not CIM though. Oh well.

Xkalibur80
06-04-16, 14:47
Agree. The ads are legit but not worth it considering the choices available at Habanos.

We did try BP on our very first trip and it was OK. Most of the BP girls are working for somebody and are not freelancers.


It is certainly not a sting. Prostitution is alive and well in Panama with no real laws against it.

You are better off going to Habanos, Veneto, and other places like massage parlors if you are concerned about bait and switch. Frankly, I never understood the need for escort services in Panama. There are plenty of prostitutes walking around.

Chrisr321
06-06-16, 00:43
Hey guys,

I'll be in Panama on July 28th and due to it being for work I was booked at the Waldorf. I'm guessing this isn't a lady friendly hotel. I'm not looking to book another hotel for a night. What are my options if I pick up a girl at Veneto? Are there any hourly places closeby?

Thanks!

RainMan270
06-08-16, 00:34
Hey guys,

I'll be in Panama on July 28th and due to it being for work I was booked at the Waldorf. I'm guessing this isn't a lady friendly hotel. I'm not looking to book another hotel for a night. What are my options if I pick up a girl at Veneto? Are there any hourly places closeby?

Thanks!You can't go wrong with the Hyatt. Nice place, chica friendly and near Habano's where you will get 50 "Copulatory gazes".

Lee
06-08-16, 04:00
Hey guys,

I'll be in Panama on July 28th and due to it being for work I was booked at the Waldorf. I'm guessing this isn't a lady friendly hotel. I'm not looking to book another hotel for a night. What are my options if I pick up a girl at Veneto? Are there any hourly places closeby?

Thanks!Hotel San Roque.

Just yards from Habano's.

Lee.

Rippa
06-08-16, 04:07
Hey guys,

I'll be in Panama on July 28th and due to it being for work I was booked at the Waldorf. I'm guessing this isn't a lady friendly hotel. I'm not looking to book another hotel for a night. What are my options if I pick up a girl at Veneto? Are there any hourly places closeby?

Thanks!To answer your question directly, yes, there are hourly hotels nearby. They are called 'push button' and pronounced basically the same way in Spanish. The name comes from the fact that they are geared for locals making clandestine trysts and literally pushing a button to raise a garage door in a motel where you drive your vehicle in, close the door behind you, and transact your business with the inn keeper, all through a little slot. Hilarious, actually, and designed to keep your assignation anonymous and a secret from the outside world. Great if you are, say, the boss banging your secretary, or whatever.

Anyway, your rent-a-girlfriend at Habanos Veneto, or any cab driver will know where they are. (Remember, DON'T use the rip- off cabs always parked in front of Habanos!) I've done this myself, more than once, and without my own vehicle. Just arrange for your cabbie to come pick you back up in an hour or two. For a few extra bucks most will gladly do so.

Bueno Suerte.

IndieFriend
06-11-16, 06:04
First trip to Panama.

Wondering if there are any Chica friendly hotels which allow smoking in the room or have balconies near Havana.

JamesPearle
06-12-16, 00:49
Trip report on my wonderful 4 days in heaven. My MO is one day screwing then one day recharge then repeat. So only 2 days are of interest to you gentlemen.

Day 1.

Arrived to Habanos just after dark. The place is crawling with ladies. Standing room only. They are all dressed to impressed and. In my humble opinion. They were all 7 or better. It was like a monger buffer. All shapes, sizes, and skin tone. Miniskirts and heels. Tight jeans and heels. Just lovely.

I sit and drink and scan the selection for some time. I ultimately decide on a light brown (walnut complexion) chica. Early 20's. Very pretty face. Spinner body with some modest curves. Tight jeans.

My first time approaching a prostitute in PR. I came well heeled (plenty of cash) and backed up a good few weeks. Cheap was not my priority. Quality experience was my priority. I knew the price point for quality was over 100. I told her that I wanted 2 hours. No rush. I told her when we get back to the room I wanted her to give me a bath, then I wanted BBBJ+CFS. She said 150. I said OK.

I was staying at the Trump. For 40 bucks, they have a Benz that will take you anywhere and wait for you. As I said, my focus was fun. Did not want to stress over transportation. So when we settled on the arrangements I walked her to the car and we rode back.

The ride back was glorious. A lot of civilians talk shit about paying for sex. Really there is no difference. Taking a beautiful chica back to your room feels damn good regardless of her motivation.

Anyway walked into the hotel. Went to the room. Chica and I got naked. Had her run the water and I hopped in. She took her time bathing me. Soapy hands felt good all over. After doing chest and back and legs she reached in the water and gently washed the sausage and huevos. Was impressed that she took time to wash below the balls. My prostate appreciated her attention to detail. She dried me off. Then nice BBBJ. Then we went round several positions. Great time.

I was struck by how sweet this girl was. She said she was 22. Had a child back in Columbia and was making money here to take care of her. We talked for a while. If my circumstances were different I would probably have considered dating her and possibly bringing her back stateside. She spoke great English, was very pretty with a really warm, gentle personality.

But for tonight, this dream unfortunately had to end.

Day 3.

Went back to Habanos around 11 pm. It looked like it was shutting down. Very few ladies. So I went to Venetos. Benz driver said ladies normally move from Habanos to Venetos. At Veneto there were tons of ladies. Overall the quality was much less than Habanos. At Habanos almost every Chica was fuckable. Here maybe 1 out of 3 I would consider and only a few were very attractive. Still, these were good enough waters to fish in.

Eventually I spot a young blond girl. About 5 feet 2 inches. Nice curves. Very cute. Pretty face (to get into my room, a pretty face is a must). So I chat with her for a bit. We settled on 100 + 50 for BBBJ. I told her my fantasy was having 2 girls and I ask her to help me find the other girl. I knew it might take a while because I told her I needed the second girl to be willing to lick my ass. (For those of you who are uninitiated, check out threesome videos produced by Mike Adrianno or the line of videos titled 'anal lick fest'.

But. I digress. We picked out a dark haired spinner. Beautiful thin chica wearing a tight flowered dress. Maybe late 20's or early 30's. The girl looked open to the date during most of the conversation. When Chica 1 told her specifically what I wanted she politely said she didn't do that and left. I didn't care. I knew someone would want the money.

Another chica eventually came along who looked as good as the first one but younger. White complexion. Early 20's. Long dark hair. Jeans. Pretty face. Nice so far. She and chica 1 have a long conversation. I see her glancing my way during the conversation as though she's sizing up the situation but she smiled the whole time and eventually nodded and said yes. For her, we settled on 100 + 100 for the extra.

So you know I am on cloud 9! I am walking out of Venetos with probably the 2 hottest girls in the place. Score. So we hop into the Benz waiting out front. We get back to the hotel. I take the girls up to the room, I settle up on the money, and proceed to unwrap my presents. Both girls had nice sized titties as even better bodies than I expected when they were clothed. The next several minutes I am kissing and sucking on anything that is close to my mouth. Titties, nipples, legs, asses. Just wonderful. Before getting to the main event I decide that I want to fuck the blond girl. So I fuck her mish for a while then have her ride me cowgirl while the morena tickles my nipples and plays with my balls. I stop her after I get close to the edge cause I don't want to ruin part 2.

Next, out of courtesy to my new friends, I take a shower to freshen up. After I am squeaky clean and smelling fresh I hop into the middle of the bed. I put a few pillows under my hips, and throw my legs into the air wide and as far back as they would comfortably go. The blond chick positions herself on my side and starts a BBBJ. Great technique with just the right amount of pressure, soft and sloppy. Next the morena gets on all fours and comes up from below. She starts licking just below the balls and above the ass. It's nice but she was too high! Trying to cheat me. I ask her a few times to go lower. Then chica 1 says something to her in Spanish. She ultimately gives in and starts licking the spot with enthusiasm. Score! I roll my eyes back in my head and concentrate on the sensations. Feeling that young, warm wet mouth on my cock and that warm wet tongue sliding in, out, up and down my ass was incredible. I had to pinch myself to make sure this was really happening. Eventually I couldn't hold it any longer and blew a cup full of cum down the throat of the blond chick. Surprisingly, the morena seemed to get off on it because she kept licking even after she pushed me over the edge.

Overall, the trip was amazing. Loved every minute of it. And can't wait to go back.

KrisMonger
06-12-16, 07:31
Trip report on my wonderful 4 days in heaven. My MO is one day screwing then one day recharge then repeat. So only 2 days are of interest to you gentlemen.

Day 1.

Arrived to Habanos just after dark. The place is crawling with ladies. Standing room only. They are all dressed to impressed and. In my humble opinion. They were all 7 or better. It was like a monger buffer. All shapes, sizes, and skin tone. Miniskirts and heels. Tight jeans and heels. Just lovely.

I sit and drink and scan the selection for some time. I ultimately decide on a light brown (walnut complexion) chica. Early 20's. Very pretty face. Spinner body with some modest curves. Tight jeans.

My first time approaching a prostitute in PR. I came well heeled (plenty of cash) and backed up a good few weeks. Cheap was not my priority. Quality experience was my priority. I knew the price point for quality was over 100. I told her that I wanted 2 hours. No rush. I told her when we get back to the room I wanted her to give me a bath, then I wanted BBBJ+CFS. She said 150. I said OK.

I was staying at the Trump. For 40 bucks, they have a Benz that will take you anywhere and wait for you. As I said, my focus was fun. Did not want to stress over transportation. So when we settled on the arrangements I walked her to the car and we rode back.

The ride back was glorious. A lot of civilians talk shit about paying for sex. Really there is no difference. Taking a beautiful chica back to your room feels damn good regardless of her motivation...Nice report! Can you share if Trump had chica fees? I totally don't mind paying it and love the idea of having Benz at disposal to make things classy.

Kris.

TripAdvisor15
06-13-16, 19:52
Guys,

Help me out a bit. In transit to Panama for a few nights in Ft Lauderdale. Any semi pro talent that you can recommend?

RacShack
06-14-16, 07:42
Guys,

Help me out a bit. In transit to Panama for a few nights in Ft Lauderdale. Any semi pro talent that you can recommend?If you had PM I could send you a lot of good advice while you were here.

TripAdvisor15
06-15-16, 17:14
If you had PM I could send you a lot of good advice while you were here.Hey,

I do have PM. It appears that you are unable to send. I am wondering how else I can contact you.

Stinky Squid
06-15-16, 20:06
Hi Guys, any ideas if the Hotel Tower House Suites at Calle 51 is girl friendly? I may check out the Habano's and just in case don't want to get into a situation.

BTW, I was at another hotel once near the Av Argentina, there they had a parking garage. Once I drove in with my car, I could directly proceed with the elevator to my floor, no front desk hassles.

Stinky Squid
06-15-16, 20:08
If you had PM I could send you a lot of good advice while you were here.I do, your advice is welcome. .

Dickhead
06-16-16, 01:54
Hi Guys, any ideas if the Hotel Tower House Suites at Calle 51 is girl friendly? I may check out the Habano's and just in case don't want to get into a situation.100% hooker friendly. I always stay there and have reviewed it, if you want further info. The pool is nice but the breakfast isn't very good. Some rooms have stovetops in addition to the microwave, and some have full size fridges and others, half-sizes. So schmooze the desk clerk when you check in.

Gagoo
06-17-16, 06:18
100% hooker friendly. I always stay there and have reviewed it, if you want further info. The pool is nice but the breakfast isn't very good. Some rooms have stovetops in addition to the microwave, and some have full size fridges and others, half-sizes. So schmooze the desk clerk when you check in.I am in Panama now. I have been moving around every couple days now. I'm going to try this place tomorrow for 2 days. It seems located pretty good. Not a bad walk from Habano's or Ashse. Or LE Palace if that is your thing.

I asked some ladies and two said Hotel Riande Granada is GF. I stayed there 2 days, but I checked in with a lady. When I walked in and out a few times it doesn't seem like they would bother anyone about bringing a lady in. Late at night I only seen one person at the front desk which is pretty far from the front door.

Two ladies said the Tryp never asked any questions. One lady said Coral Suites has no problem. I seen in an online review that The Hilton Garden Inn. A guy said they charged him $80 to bring "a friend" in to his room. Women at Veneto say the Veneto still charges. Everyone says the Hyatt is good. I stayed where I am now from AIRBNB. The guy just about says in plain English on AIRBNB that you are more than free to bring hookers to your room. And I did last night with no problem. It is only about 3 minutes to walk to Veneto. It is good for the price, but I am not use to sharing a bathroom and the rest of the house with people I don't know. But I wanted to use the washer and dryer, so it was good for me. Just look on AIRBNB for places near where you want. My total was $76 for 2 nights. I washed two loads of clothes, so that made it more of a value.

I got a good price on the Hotel Tower House Suites. I did a search for it on Kayak, then it gave me the best price on Easyclicktravel. I used them once before without a problem. My total after taxes is only $97.18 for Friday and Saturday night. Booking.com would have been about $116 after taxes. I could have gotten the Hyatt for 2 nights for only $150, and I'd get 10% back. But, I'll try out the Hotel Tower House Suites instead.

Expat17
06-17-16, 21:57
Has anyone been to Golden Time lately? Haven't read a report about that place in a long time. Wanted to know if it's still worth going there over Habanos.

GauntMan
06-22-16, 07:59
Seems like the forum notifications were falling into the junk folder, had to set some safe senders list. Anyone in Panama arriving or already here, drop me a pm, I live here and know the places around and have many friends.

Member #4476
06-22-16, 20:02
Had another great trip. Did not even go to Veneto, just ended each night at Habano's and there was plenty of talent there at all times. Prices ranged from $100-$120 with one $150. Best in show was a stunning Colombian named Silvana. Absolute sweetheart and as close to a 10 as you will see. Stayed at Hyatt and it was great. Breakfast was mediocre but rooms and service were great and never a hassle with bringing back a girl (or two). When you check in look across the street, if the construction is going on then definitely get a room in the back. Had a great room in the front first night but at 4. 00 in the morning they started with the jackhammer across the street. I was one of many changing to the back after that night. If interested, the best restaurant I have ever been to in Panama and actually one of the best anywhere was a restaurant in Casco Viejo called Caliope. Make a reservation. YMMV but we all loved the meal and the service and the desserts were unbelievable. Went over to Red Lion for Happy Hour most days. The girls were very friendly, hugging us Hello, and goodbye every time after the first visit. Last thing as others have mentioned. Use Uber if you have the app. Every vehicle was brand new, air conditioned and friendly drivers and rides were cheap. Cost was about $3. 08 from Hyatt to Casco. So much better than haggling with cabbies for a ride in a shitty car.

DrPorn
06-22-16, 21:07
Had another great trip. Did not even go to Veneto, just ended each night at Habano's and there was plenty of talent there at all times. Prices ranged from $100-$120 with one $150. Best in show was a stunning Colombian named Silvana. Absolute sweetheart and as close to a 10 as you will see. Stayed at Hyatt and it was great. Breakfast was mediocre but rooms and service were great and never a hassle with bringing back a girl (or two). When you check in look across the street, if the construction is going on then definitely get a room in the back. Had a great room in the front first night but at 4. 00 in the morning they started with the jackhammer across the street. I was one of many changing to the back after that night. If interested, the best restaurant I have ever been to in Panama and actually one of the best anywhere was a restaurant in Casco Viejo called Caliope. Make a reservation. YMMV but we all loved the meal and the service and the desserts were unbelievable. Went over to Red Lion for Happy Hour most days. The girls were very friendly, hugging us Hello, and goodbye every time after the first visit. Last thing as others have mentioned. Use Uber if you have the app. Every vehicle was brand new, air conditioned and friendly drivers and rides were cheap. Cost was about $3. 08 from Hyatt to Casco. So much better than haggling with cabbies for a ride in a shitty car.I will also be staying at Hyatt late July. If anyone is there at the same time, PM me. A few questions about your report:

Was the $100-120 for only an hour or for up to 2 hrs?

Is Red Lion within walking distance of Hyatt and are there girls available for rent there?

Is it customary to wear long pants when going out or can you go to Habanos in shorts?

Thanks!

Gagoo
06-22-16, 23:13
100% hooker friendly. I always stay there and have reviewed it, if you want further info. The pool is nice but the breakfast isn't very good. Some rooms have stovetops in addition to the microwave, and some have full size fridges and others, half-sizes. So schmooze the desk clerk when you check in.I stayed there 2 nights and brought a lady back each night. They seen me for sure, and they definitely don't care if you bring a woman back. The first night was a little odd because when I was walking up to the hotel there was one of the police mini-vans parked up front with a cop standing in front of the hotel. The cop looked at us and I pretended to not notice him, but we went in fine. The second night the people at the front desk seen us, and they just don't care. It's not a bad place at all. You can walk to Habanos or Ashe in 4 minutes. I got the half fridge and not stove.

There were a few girls trying to start at $200 at Habanos, and one said that in Veneto. They act like you are new and said that has been the price for a long time. I told them I have been to Panama many times. I know the price. Quite a few girls will ask for $100 or $150. That is the first asking price. One of the bitches even said we charge Americans $50 more. That puta.

I took a a Cuban lady at Veneto. She was pretty good. It was my first Cuban girl so I had to go for it. She spoke decent English. She said there was only 1 or 2 more Cubans at Veneto. One was her friend. I took a Panaman girl that I have know fora couple years. She actually gave me better service this time. She used to want to hurry up and go. I almost had to kick her out this time. On my last night an aggressive Paisa was all over me in Habanos. I don't like aggressive Colombian women because they are usually lousy. But she started out at $100 and said she would do this and that. So I gave her a try and found out that she must have been horny or something. After taking a shower she laid on the side of the bed with her legs open hoping I was going to do some DATY. I didn't go for that though. We "both" had a great time. She asked me for a whopping $4 for a taxi. That was no problem. She gave me her number for Whatsapp, but it doesn't seem to be a good number.

Member #4476
06-23-16, 15:32
The $100-$120, generally $100 by the way, was for me an hour. At 1. 30-2. 00 in the morning I just want to get to sleep afterwards so prefer them to leave quickly. Red Lion is not walking distance, it is right across from Hard Rock at MultiCentro mall. $2-$3 each way. At Habano's you can wear anything you would like. We tended to dress in a shirt and jeans to go out to dinner but it really doesn't matter. One thing we liked to do was go to Habano's early before dinner for a drink, tip the waiter well and tell him we will be back after dinner. When we got back they would have a table outside in the prime spot for us.

KrisMonger
06-23-16, 23:30
Visiting Panama with a bunch of my buddies for a few days. Went to Golden time yesterday based on reviews here and a cabbie pushing us to go there. We got charged the gringo price of 120 dollars (locals get charged 80 is what cabbie told). Me and all of my friends had very shitty experience. Having been to massage parlors elsewhere in the world -this was just a terrible let down. I was prepared to deal with no BBBJ and shit like that -but my girl (number 17) - just didn't even let me take a look at her pussy. She pretended not to speak that much English (she is from Colombia just like everyone there) in the beginning. Went into the room and literally after 5 minutes of a useless massage (and I was hoping for more massage as I was tired from the flight) she turned me around, threw the condom on and started sucking fairly mechanically. I tried to get her to turn around and show her ass and such -nothing. No access to pussy and not even viewing. She got on top -started riding (again mechanically) and I was just getting disconnected and was having a challenge to keep the soldier up. After 5 minutes -she got tired and we went to missionary (even though I told her I wanted her in RCG)- where I worked pretty hard with a junior that was fairly not happy to get him to deliver. After 10 minutes of some serious effort. Arrived and done. All in all, 15 minutes and I wasted fucking 120 dollars. Door-Door was literally 30 minutes. My other buddies had similar experience as well. Just bummed that this session was a complete miss.

Kris

KrisMonger
06-23-16, 23:39
Visited Elite late in the night. Very walkable from Hyatt palace and right across Hooters. Cover is 30 dollars for open bar and gets you local drinks. Not bad. Not much BTW of girls hanging around (going to say about 20 on a Wednesday night). The quality of most of them were 7 and above. I was not sure about the modus-operandi here as I didn't do my read-up here (I was set on going to Habanos -hoping to do that in the next few hours today and report back) A few girls came out and they were nice and chatty -but the drinks are expensive (16 bucks or so) and it can easily add up. Apparently for barfining -you have to buy about 10 drinks (like 160 bucks) and then negotiate with the girl. Couple of pole dancers were pretty good -so essentially spent most of the late night just doling out dollars like regular strip club. Saw an El Salvadorian here that was really cute. Got her number and I hope to connect with her tomorrow for an afternoon session (she was open to it). Overall, this is like a nice strip club -but girls drinks pricing is highway robbery. I would not go there if I was planning to pick up chicas (which I was not planning to anyways as I was dead tired from flying and enduring Goldentime's horrible episode.

Kris

KrisMonger
06-24-16, 13:23
This was the first full day for me in PTY and I was looking forward to it -given my complete miss in Goldentime the day earlier.

Started the morning in a very touristy fashion -going to Miraflores and looking at the ships go by!. Awesome thing to see! Started late evening (10 pm) out to hunt. Wanted to see some eyecandy and get some eating done at the same time. Went in to Red Lions bar (next to Hard Rock) . Did Uber to the place -Uber is the way to go in panama -you can pretty much get it anytime / any day and it is cheaper and you don't have to listen to cabbies just slamming Habanos and pushing Goldentime and Elite (I think cabbies are getting some serious cuts from both these businesses). Red Lions has some huge screens with some loud music and video going on and was packed. Got a table for me and my buddies (it helps to have someone that can converse Spanish really well) and got a bottle of rum to just hang around there. All the waitresses here are friendly (but zero English -as they are all either Colombian or Venezuelan). I also think we saw more silicon here than anywhere else. Kinda surprised that it is the norm here for almost every girl. Spent about 2 hours here and then we went back closer to Hyatt (LE palace) . Palace was not that crowded (It is a much smaller place than Elite). Girls here were pretty good (with a few artificially enhanced breasts). I would say at least 30% spoke decent English. Spanish speaking local and a bottle of rum got us seating right in front of the performance area and quite a few girls joined. Modus operandi is almost same as Elite. 125 to take girl out and then girls were asking 300 bucks for a few hours (more like 2 hours). I think Palace makes sense only if you go to the close and then try to close a TLN. Stayed there for an hour and then got worried that we are missing the fishes in Habanos. Walked to Habanos around 1:00 pm and that place was lighted up with talent of all varieties and sizes. It was not tough to find a girl that I liked. Daniella from Cali was the one!. She was artificially enhanced. She started with 200 (and right away I laughed her off and told her that I have been to the place many times). She came to 150 and was standing fairly firm on that money. I negotiated that for that money she gets to shower with me and does "chupada sin condom" as I am HUGE fan of BBBJ. She was good with that. Walked back to Hyatt with her and we get into the room and she tells me she has no condoms!. I am feeling like this is not going to be good start. But she was pretty cool about it and fortunately one of my friends actually brought in supplies. Secured the condom and then we started with a shower together. This girl was very cute and I would say pretty close to a GFE (Ya I negotiated that up to). Very nice in the shower as we mutually washed each other off. Came out of shower and I went down on her freshly cleaned pussy. That was good and she maintained a pretty good attitude through the session. The BBBJ session was sloppy, wet and outstanding. Then we got on to some serious fucking by going after all positions. After some active fucking, finally got back into BBBJ and delivered the goods right on her boobs and belly. Throughout this she was very cheerful and most importantly didn't ask for any money upfront.

We cleaned up. I was debating if I should have her stay TLN. Decided against it. Paid the 150 and gave her 20 more (I am sure I overpaid by a few here).

Thanks to forum members continued suggestion that Habanos is the place to be. I can tell you it is the place to be for hunting. Don't waste money on Elite or even the massage table -just go to Habanos!

Dickhead
06-24-16, 17:15
she is from ColombiaAnd therein lies the problem. Look good, perform like crap. Only thing worse is a dominicana. When in Panamá, try to find nicas for better service and attitude.

Sabor
06-25-16, 00:20
Stayed a few days in PTY on my way to Ecuador so I ventured out at sunset and rode around. Had a few brews at Bocatorena but nothing appealed to me there. A few hotties but did not feel the vibe. As I rode around town saw 3 SWs at Ave Mexico. One was an albino! Ok, stopped around the corner and checked my to do list. Albino not checked so around I went and called her over. Spoke to her for a few and settled for three jacksons. Off to the push. She was GFE and although not a 10 she was maybe a 5 but 10 attitude. Did the deed and managed to give her 2 Os. Took her back and gave her a tip. There are talents in the area at a fraction what others pay for at Habanos, Veneto, ect.

Dickhead
06-25-16, 00:56
Damn. I'm jealous. I want to fuck an albino. I fucked a dwarf hooker in Denver a few times, and a gal with one leg. The dwarf ended up getting murdered in a fairly gruesome fashion although the details escape me. I also fucked a pregnant grandmother one time. The only thing I'd worry about with an albino, though, would be: what if she has pink eye? How would you be able to tell?

If she's an albino negro then the story is even better.

BillyBob3000
07-09-16, 14:44
Arrived in PTY. Very easy immigration and ride to Hyatt from airport. Used a tour service for airport transfer, turned out guy driving get was our groups tour guide for next day. Got to hotel, cleaned up and started looking around. Habanos was short walk. No one there around 4 pm, came back to hotel. Went out for dinner with my group, called it quits for Day 1.

May 2.

Did a 1/2 day tour around after my wingman arrived at 10 am. Came back to hotel, rested and went out for sushi at America's Tower. ZK Nikkei, it was very good vibe and sushi was good but drink some were better. Finished up, went to Panaviera at Trump Hotel. Awesome experience at 8 pm, the cities lights were amazing from the rooftop. Headed to Elite after an hour, I loved a couple dancers. Amazing pole dancing, drinks were coming regularly but watered down. My wingman found a Colombian who was an 8. Bar tab was $165 + $200 TLN. I told him to enjoy her for 3 drinks then end it. Also, I spoke a little Spanish but had a local translator throughout the trip. This person came in handy, got the Colombiana'so digits to get her on Saturday. We left after an hour, walked to Habanos. It was about 10:30 pm, place was packed. Picked up a couple of girls just before entering the place. Took them to 2nd floor, had a drink. I left my wingman with the girls once securing a couch for everyone in group. Just to fill-in a few blanks, my wingman got drunk after Elite and needed to be handled. The girls were Venezuela not. One was a 8, that was who he liked. So I left him and headed down and checked out the 1st floor. Had many eyes on me but I could not find my type. I know you might be thinking that I am too picky but the girl my friend took was very much my type but he got her first so. I went back upstairs and hung out, finished drinks. The girls that we picked up earlier wanted $250 for both until 3 am and it but my wingman was drunk and it would not be productive night. I had to walk away, only after our translator got the digits. We walked back or I should say, I had to carry my wingman to his room. I didn't feel the N8 ght was bust, enjoyed Elite and Habanos. However, I quickly learned there are many, many sharks at Habanos. Meaning lots of hot girls looking to get picked.

Will post more later.

BillyBob3000
07-10-16, 18:10
Well, if you read my previous posting, I had mistake. It stated "May 2" instead of "Day 2". That's what I get from typing on the phone.

Day 3.

Took a 1/2 day tour to the New Locks at Panama Canal. It was very cool seeing what we all see in the pictures, actually being there. The bad part was. That we drove 1 hour to get there only to spend 45 minutes. Watched the short films, saw the PanaMax ship waiting to clear the first locks. I was expecting to walk down to other locks but not really permitted when I was there. So it was about lunch time, headed back to PC. Traffic was bad, even on Saturday afternoon. Took us Amador, had lunch by pier. It was good. Headed back using Cosway. It was a beautiful, it had rained and finished after 30 minutes. Skies cleared up. Drove back to Hyatt. Slept for a bit. Got ready around 7 am, met girls (Panamanians) downstairs in lobby. Yes, there is piece of information I left out earlier. I had wildcard, frienda local before coming. That person planned and executed the framework properly from the point we landed till we leave, including translation. Cost was $120 for planning a week for 2 guys completely (I booked the Air and Hotel by myself and our planner did the rest). The girls were awesome, brought good vibe. Hung out from 7 pm to 3 am (or some till next morning). The cost of girls ranged from $100 $175. These were non-pro's who did this on the side, occasionally. They were friends of our planner. And boy, did they drink. Went thru a 6 pack and 2 bottles of Vodka in our room. Now you may think, we had an orgy in one room. My wingman wanted to but I was the shy one and kicked him out to have threesome. Once finished, the girls were all friends so they came back to my room and just hung out. So all in all, had a great time.

Thair9999
07-12-16, 04:55
Yes, there is piece of information I left out earlier. I had wildcard, frienda local before coming.Can you share info of this local planner?

BillyBob3000
07-13-16, 20:49
Can you share info of this local planner?I don't mind sharing the contact. I sent you a PM. If anyone else wants the info, drop me PM.

This was my 1st time in Panama City. Without this planner, not sure if I would have hit up a lot of these spots. We all know about Habanos, Elite, Ashe, Boca, Mejor, and Red Lion. But I wanted non-pro's, local people and that's who I got. Time went by so fast, I could have used another 2 or 3 days out there.

Planning to return in January for a week or 10 days, work during the day (remotely) and enjoy the evenings out.

Also, I ate all three Lebanese restaurants (Beirut, Habibi's, Al Basha) that were near Hyatt. Beirut was great on Saturday evening. Belly dancers come out (older women had great moves). Al Basha was quaint, down to earth feeling. Habibi's felt like an open sports bar but food here was the best compared to the other two, IMHO.

If you get tired of breakfast at hotel (like I did), hit up "4 Bistro" for breakfast. Small place but clean and food is so good. I still want it every morning. Besides mongering, I am foodie.

I almost had tea\coffee at the Presidential Place on Sunday. They told me to visit for 8 am Sunday but I missed the appointment. Partied till 3 am so I failed to wake up.

Alex7J
07-14-16, 04:01
I don't mind sharing the contact. I sent you a PM. If anyone else wants the info, drop me PM.

This was my 1st time in Panama City. Without this planner, not sure if I would have hit up a lot of these spots. We all know about Habanos, Elite, Ashe, Boca, Mejor, and Red Lion. But I wanted non-pro's, local people and that's who I got. Time went by so fast, I could have used another 2 or 3 days out there.

Planning to return in January for a week or 10 days, work during the day (remotely) and enjoy the evenings out.

Also, I ate all three Lebanese restaurants (Beirut, Habibi's, Al Basha) that were near Hyatt. Beirut was great on Saturday evening. Belly dancers come out (older women had great moves). Al Basha was quaint, down to earth feeling. Habibi's felt like an open sports bar but food here was the best compared to the other two, IMHO.

If you get tired of breakfast at hotel (like I did), hit up "4 Bistro" for breakfast. Small place but clean and food is so good. I still want it every morning. Besides mongering, I am foodie.

I almost had tea\coffee at the Presidential Place on Sunday. They told me to visit for 8 am Sunday but I missed the appointment. Partied till 3 am so I failed to wake up.Super info Billy Bob: Panama is definitely on my list as it is the gateway to SA and I am an ardent fan of Colombia, Venezuela and now Chile and Argentina also. You my man are a party guy like me even I love to party and like to pick up normal girls from clubs or even semi-pros price is no matter to me as far as women are concerned I don't bargain and I don't hassle I make sure the women is relaxed and she wants sex herself that is the best feeling.

Will definitely take your advice and suggestions and the contact details when I will be visiting.

Cheers man,

Alex

ValeRossi
07-15-16, 05:12
I'm here now visiting and would be grateful for some info.


Well, if you read my previous posting, I had mistake. It stated "May 2" instead of "Day 2". That's what I get from typing on the phone.

Day 3.

Took a 1/2 day tour to the New Locks at Panama Canal. It was very cool seeing what we all see in the pictures, actually being there. The bad part was. That we drove 1 hour to get there only to spend 45 minutes. Watched the short films, saw the PanaMax ship waiting to clear the first locks. I was expecting to walk down to other locks but not really permitted when I was there. So it was about lunch time, headed back to PC. Traffic was bad, even on Saturday afternoon. Took us Amador, had lunch by pier. It was good. Headed back using Cosway. It was a beautiful, it had rained and finished after 30 minutes. Skies cleared up. Drove back to Hyatt. Slept for a bit. Got ready around 7 am, met girls (Panamanians) downstairs in lobby. Yes, there is piece of information I left out earlier. I had wildcard, frienda local before coming..

BillyBob3000
07-15-16, 14:35
I'm here now visiting and would be grateful for some info.ValeRossi,

I would love to share the contact info here on the forum but don't want to come of as an advertisement for service. Please pay for PM and I will send you the info, just as I have to other who requested.

I wish I could back sooner than January but have commitments until November. By that time, Panama hits the national holidays in November so everything is closed and people go to countryside for getaway. Also learned that December is the worst time to come due to traffic in the city. Not sure what tour guide meant by that, NYC, Chicago, and LA has bad traffic too. It seemed there were more cars than roads in the PC and traffic jam started 8 am-10 am & 4 pm-6 pm but supposedly these hours get extended during month of December when everyone is out and about all the time. I know some of you may have been there in December so would like feedback on this. If this is true.

BillyBob

Xkalibur80
07-16-16, 00:08
There are better reasons to not visit Panama in December I. E most girls go back to their home country to spend the holidays with their family. Prime time to be in Panama is Feb-Apr and then from Aug-Nov.

I last went this past May and the quality was a-OK. Nothing to write home about. Although my experiences were better.


ValeRossi,

I would love to share the contact info here on the forum but don't want to come of as an advertisement for service. Please pay for PM and I will send you the info, just as I have to other who requested.

I wish I could back sooner than January but have commitments until November. By that time, Panama hits the national holidays in November so everything is closed and people go to countryside for getaway. Also learned that December is the worst time to come due to traffic in the city. Not sure what tour guide meant by that, NYC, Chicago, and LA has bad traffic too. It seemed there were more cars than roads in the PC and traffic jam started 8 am-10 am & 4 pm-6 pm but supposedly these hours get extended during month of December when everyone is out and about all the time. I know some of you may have been there in December so would like feedback on this. If this is true.

BillyBob

JetDork
07-18-16, 15:46
Visited Panama Saturday night. Around 730 pm Habanos was dead, walked up to the Veneto to window shop and the pickings were pretty slim as well. There was some kind of religious celebration going on with fireworks and everything, so I was bummed thinking this was going to be a repeat of Good Friday when everything in the whole country was closed.

But I was happily mistaken, I had merely gone out too early. Peeked into Habanos after 9 pm and it was pleasantly packed. Grabbed a beer, and a Colombian grabbed me. Victoria is from Medellin, and fits the 'aggressive paisita' profile. I had had a go with her before, maybe 6 months ago, but I don't think she remembered me. Her English is pretty solid, and she is an enthusiastic provider. We chatted while I finished my beer and enjoyed the floor show. I offered her 80 for an hour with BBBJ, she countered with cien, or 1/2 hour for 80. After a little back and forth we agreed to 1 1/2 hours, with BBBJ and photos for cien.

She preformed above expectations, no rush didn't look for the cash up front and seemed genuinely into it. She was a little camera shy, and didn't want her face in any pix. After I finished on her belly and we cleaned up she gave me a great massage. She says she's heading back to Colombia until late August. I got her digits for my next visit for some daytime fun.

Redfield10
07-22-16, 02:56
There are better reasons to not visit Panama in December I. E most girls go back to their home country to spend the holidays with their family. Prime time to be in Panama is Feb-Apr and then from Aug-Nov.

I last went this past May and the quality was a-OK. Nothing to write home about. Although my experiences were better.I'm thinking about November for Panama City. How is the scene then?

Seismo
07-24-16, 01:01
I'm thinking about November for Panama City. How is the scene then?November has been a good time to visit. I have spent a couple of weeks there every November for the last several years.

Thanksgiving week is celebrated as the biggest shopping event ever. Middle class masses from all over fly in to go shopping. Lots of 2 x1 sales.

It is a good time to stay away from the malls, but everything else seems to be business as usual.

There are lots of colombianas and others trying to make Christmas money!

Have fun and report back.

Seismo
07-24-16, 01:06
I noticed a lot of ads on www.wanuncios.com showing sale prices of $50. Others asking $60, some with 2 x 1 specials. I have not been here since March, wondering what is going on.

Is it slower than usual?

Thanks.

Expat17
08-02-16, 16:46
Anyone know if Red Lion waitresses are escorting? If so, how do you approach them?

YippieKayay
08-02-16, 20:30
Anyone know if Red Lion waitresses are escorting? If so, how do you approach them?Just ask the waitress nicely. Preferably for a number so you can contact her on whatsapp. There are some posts earlier in this thread that go in more detail.

Just about every Colombian woman you meet in Panama City working menial jobs will have sex for money. That's why they traveled to PC, and most of them don't have residency or any kind of work permit. Sooner or later they wise up to hustling tourists for cash.

YippieKayay
08-04-16, 20:26
Some time ago some folks on this thread advised checking out Cartagena if I was after more Colombian women. I have a quick question to those who have visited the two: is there a place like Habanos in Cartagena? I looked through the Cartagena thread on this forum and there's talk of brothels and night clubs, but never any bars where you can go to pick up.

Also how is the attitude toward prostitution in Cartagena? In Panama no one bats an eye lash.

Tiny 12
08-05-16, 04:17
Some time ago some folks on this thread advised checking out Cartagena if I was after more Colombian women. I have a quick question to those who have visited the two: is there a place like Habanos in Cartagena? I looked through the Cartagena thread on this forum and there's talk of brothels and night clubs, but never any bars where you can go to pick up.

Also how is the attitude toward prostitution in Cartagena? In Panama no one bats an eye lash.Yes. Cartagena is the best city in Colombia for pickup bars. The best known club for freelancers is La Dolce Vita in Laguito, the beach area. There are also bars in the historic old town where freelancers hang out. I'm not up to date on those, check out the Cartagena forum. You might do a search for Hilltopper's posts. He's a good source for those types of spots.

As to the attitude toward prostitution, I don't know if there's much of a difference between the cities. People in Cartagena however will be more likely to assume you're there to bang hookers, which will work to your disadvantage versus Panama if you intend to date nonpros too.

Chrisr321
08-08-16, 00:24
Tu Candela is an awesome bar in Cartagena IMO.


Some time ago some folks on this thread advised checking out Cartagena if I was after more Colombian women. I have a quick question to those who have visited the two: is there a place like Habanos in Cartagena? I looked through the Cartagena thread on this forum and there's talk of brothels and night clubs, but never any bars where you can go to pick up.

Also how is the attitude toward prostitution in Cartagena? In Panama no one bats an eye lash.

EllissDee
08-08-16, 23:58
Long time forum stalker / South American traveler making his first report.

I'm on a 4-country 2-month trip in South America, and after 3 weeks in CR (not bad) and 1 in Nicaragua (not great), I arrived yesterday in Panama. First thing: if you have Uber, and are able to get internet access at the airport, definitely use Uber to get into town. For that matter, use Uber everywhere that Uber is available. I travel quite a bit throughout South America, and only use Uber if available. The cost, convenience of not needing cash, newer cars, and just the friendliness of the drivers cannot be overstated.

After reaching my hotel, the Hampton by Hilton, I unpack and head out to walk around, get a Claro SIM (invaluable while traveling), and get my bearings. At around 7, I head over to Elite, where the manager and security both tell me that I'd be wasting my time and money heading in that early, and to check back after 9:30 PM. From there, I hit up Miami, where only 3 girls were working, 1 of which was busy with the only other customer. I chat up a Colombian, but opt to try my chances elsewhere, as I'll be in Colombia next Sunday for about a month. I call another Uber, and he recommends a place nearer the airport called Capri. It's in a somewhat sketchy neighborhood, but he tells me once inside I'd be surprised, and I was. It seems much newer inside, had over 15 girls working on a Sunday night, and quite the busy atmosphere. I should probably add that at this place, as well as Elite, Miami, and many places in Panama, there are local prices and foreigner prices. As I'm Cuban and brown, I was able to pass as a local. $25/15 minutes at Capri, so approximately $100 for the hour minus negotiations. I pick out a blonde who turns out to be Colombian (the one thing I was trying to avoid, as I'll have my fill of Colombians next month), but it was my first night in, so I take her to the back for 30. Extremely mechanical, and was trying to upsell / ask for drinks the second I stood up. I probably went through 26 minutes of sales pitches, even during the deed. TLDR: I'd return, but not for her.

I have 6 days left in Panama, and hope to leave more helpful reviews soon. Also, I was looking online for what I consider the unicorn in South America: a massage joint that actually gives a good massage. If anyone can make a recommendation in Panama, I'd greatly appreciate it.

Drf1987
08-09-16, 02:04
Some time ago some folks on this thread advised checking out Cartagena if I was after more Colombian women. I have a quick question to those who have visited the two: is there a place like Habanos in Cartagena? I looked through the Cartagena thread on this forum and there's talk of brothels and night clubs, but never any bars where you can go to pick up.

Also how is the attitude toward prostitution in Cartagena? In Panama no one bats an eye lash.I was there in January and I picked up a very nice girl at the clock tower where tourist and the town locals mingle. No one seemed to care. There were a ton of pros hanging out as the evening grew old and they some were real lookers. The second night I used a love motel very close by which was very inexpensive and also very clean.

DrPorn
08-11-16, 22:45
I had my first trip to PTY after reading this forum. Landed in the eve, took taxi to Hyatt Place, which is a great hotel as mentioned here previously. By the time I got settled, it was about 10 pm so I decided to go to Veneto's, instead of Habanos. I walked to Veneto's and stopped for dinner at the Schwarma place next to Venetos- I highly recommend as good food for cheap price.

Once in Veneto's took escalator to 2nd floor casino / bar and it was semi-crowded with lots of lovely ladies and not many men! I saw 2 girls about 20 years old who beckoned me over. They said they were from Cuba and I explained that I just arrived and wanted to look around a little. We exchanged WhatsApp and I continued looking. I saw a lovely Colombian girl who was a 9 and spoke to her about an hour for cien including BBBJ; she said no BBBJ so I wished her a good night and kept searching. I finally settled on another Colombian who was about a 7-8 who would do GFE for 90 min for cien. We walked back to the Hyatt and she was good but not great. I could tell she was a smoker during DFK and tits were a little saggy. Nevertheless, fun was had and she put forth a great effort.

Day 2.

Non-mongering in the morning. Seeing the canal, etc.

In the afternoon, I wanted to be poolside but Hyatt pool is too small; so I packed a small backpack with water, towel, sunblock, etc and walked over to Venetos. Took the elevator to the 7th floor and layed on a lounge. There were only 2 other guys there when I arrived. After about 30 minutes a Colombian hottie (around 30 yo, Sofia) takes the lounge chair about 3 chairs from me. I'm wondering if she is a hooker or just a hot girl at the pool. I know girls have to pay a fee to be in the bar, but not sure if this also applies to the pool (I doubt she snuck in to the pool like me). We chat for a while, she orders food and a beer, and we exchange WhatsApp. I thought this might be my lucky day until I ask her what she does for work and she just smiles and says nada. I tell her I have plans with a friend in the eve, but might message her later. I leave and walk back to the Hyatt. I wanted late afternoon fun so I message her and have her come over at 4 pm. Once there we chat in the room and agree on $120 for 90 minutes. We shower together and she was very nice, GFE, passionate, and attentive.

The next day I flew to Colombia for work so PTY was a nice stopover. I really enjoyed the canal and Sofia; but my next mongering will be straight to Colombia as prices are half that of Panama.

Gagoo
08-12-16, 06:30
Some time ago some folks on this thread advised checking out Cartagena if I was after more Colombian women. I have a quick question to those who have visited the two: is there a place like Habanos in Cartagena? I looked through the Cartagena thread on this forum and there's talk of brothels and night clubs, but never any bars where you can go to pick up.

Also how is the attitude toward prostitution in Cartagena? In Panama no one bats an eye lash.In Cartagena there are lots of hookers, so don't worry about that. But many hotels in Cartagena don't want hookers to come to their hotels. Do your research on that or use Airbnb like I have the last few times I went there. Lots of free lancers in Cartagena near the big clock. Just find Hard Rock Cafe and in that area you will see lots of ladies at night, and some of the bars next to Hard Rock. For Colombian standards, Cartagena is probably the highest average cost for hookers in Colombia. You can find some decent brothel / bars though. Taxis will know these places for sure.

I used to love the Veneto until the rooms got worse and worse and then started charging to bring a woman in your room. Don't worry about what people think abut hookers in Cartagena though. Some people like Cartagena and other areas of Colombia for low priced "inhalants".

Gagoo
08-12-16, 06:39
After about 30 minutes a Colombian hottie (around 30 yo, Sofia) takes the lounge chair about 3 chairs from me. I'm wondering if she is a hooker or just a hot girl at the pool. I know girls have to pay a fee to be in the bar, but not sure if this also applies to the pool (I doubt she snuck in to the pool like me). I've stayed at Veneto about 5 times, but not again for sure. But I've met a few ladies who rent rooms there. It costs them more, but some ladies are paranoid about safety and paying for taxis and just like to stay there. I'm not sure if they get some sort of break on having to pay to work there though. When I met the girls that stayed there it was before having to pay to take a woman to the room, so maybe things have changed.

NonStopParty
08-13-16, 06:31
How do I get from the airport to hotel and back. Do they have taxis outside the airport and are they all cool to use. And when returning to the airport from the hotel do I have call a cab to pick me up from the hotel? If so where would I find their phone number? I'm staying at the Hyatt.

Also I heard uber was cool to use to get around. Anyone know if this is true? Or is it best to stick with a taxi?

Also is there anything special I have to do when I get to the airport from the USA and also when I leave to go back to the USA?

Is there anything special I should bring with me in general?

Also how much money should I bring for a 3 week trip?

Also where is the best place to withdraw money from an ATM if I need more?

And what denominations of money is best to have?

I have T-Mobile and it works in a lot of countries including Panama. Would bringing and using my phone there be the best option?

And if there is anything else that you think a first timer should know about anything please let me know.

Thanks in advance.

YippieKayay
08-13-16, 16:18
How do I get from the airport to hotel and back. Do they have taxis outside the airport and are they all cool to use. And when returning to the airport from the hotel do I have call a cab to pick me up from the hotel? If so where would I find their phone number? I'm staying at the Hyatt.
Taxis are outside the airport. Only go with the official ones. There are dispatchers there to help you. $25 to $30 is about right. The official prices are posted on a board.



Also I heard uber was cool to use to get around. Anyone know if this is true? Or is it best to stick with a taxi?
I have not used Uber but others have said it is good in Panama.



Also is there anything special I have to do when I get to the airport from the USA and also when I leave to go back to the USA?

Is there anything special I should bring with me in general?
No just the usual.



Also how much money should I bring for a 3 week trip?
That's up to you. 3 weeks is a long time to stay in Panama City. You'll be bored silly unless you like gambling.



Also where is the best place to withdraw money from an ATM if I need more?

And what denominations of money is best to have?
ATMs are plentiful but with additional charges. I would bring lots of 1 dollar bills for the taxis.



I have T-Mobile and it works in a lot of countries including Panama. Would bringing and using my phone there be the best option?

And if there is anything else that you think a first timer should know about anything please let me know.

Thanks in advance.I usually either buy a local sim or I rely on wifi + whatsapp to communicate.

Dickhead
08-13-16, 21:12
How do I get from the airport to hotel and back. Do they have taxis outside the airport and are they all cool to use. And when returning to the airport from the hotel do I have call a cab to pick me up from the hotel?I would rather rip my tonsils out with a fish hook than spend three full weeks in PTY, but when you get in, go to the departures level and negotiate with a cab who is dropping someone off. Ignore all the people trying to "help" you. $15 is what I paid last year doing that. And if your return flight is very early in the morning, you may wish to arrange a cab through your hotel. Otherwise you can get one on the street but you have to negotiate then, and they could pick up someone else, which wastes time and invades your space. There has been a lot of discussion about Uber and cabs if you go back a ways.

TripAdvisor16
08-13-16, 22:12
Taxis are outside the airport. Only go with the official ones. There are dispatchers there to help you. $25 to $30 is about right. The official prices are posted on a board.

I have not used Uber but others have said it is good in Panama.

No just the usual.

That's up to you. 3 weeks is a long time to stay in Panama City. You'll be bored silly unless you like gambling.

ATMs are plentiful but with additional charges. I would bring lots of 1 dollar bills for the taxis.

I usually either buy a local sim or I rely on wifi + whatsapp to communicate.If you can pay the membership here, it will be well worth it and when you do PM me!

NonStopParty
08-16-16, 13:32
I'll be staying at the Hyatt. What banks and ATM's should I use in Panama City, Panama to withdraw and change money to different denominations? I was looking on a map and I saw that HSBC seems to be right across the street. Is this true and are they good to use? If not what are my other options?

Thanks

Hobbiest1
08-16-16, 14:59
I'll be staying at the Hyatt. What banks and ATM's should I use in Panama City, Panama to withdraw and change money to different denominations? I was looking on a map and I saw that HSBC seems to be right across the street. Is this true and are they good to use? If not what are my other options?

ThanksThere is no need to exchange money as the currency is the US dollar. There are plenty of ATM all over the place. No worries. Enjoy your trip.

NonStopParty
08-16-16, 15:07
There is no need to exchange money as the currency is the US dollar. There are plenty of ATM all over the place. No worries. Enjoy your trip.Thanks. But what if I need to exchange $20 bills for $1 bills what do I do? Also where are the safer ATM's located?

Dickhead
08-16-16, 16:15
The last time I was there (last May), I was able to withdraw money from a bank's ATM, typically receiving all 20's, walk into the bank, show the ATM receipt, and get whatever denomination of bills I wanted. Carrying around $500 in twenties is kind of a drag. Also be aware that although Panamá does not print currency, they do mint their own coins. So, you want to make sure you spend the coins, because you can't change them in. Your change will be a mix of US and panamanian coins.

TripAdvisor16
08-16-16, 20:19
How do I get from the airport to hotel and back. Do they have taxis outside the airport and are they all cool to use. And when returning to the airport from the hotel do I have call a cab to pick me up from the hotel? If so where would I find their phone number? I'm staying at the Hyatt.

Also I heard uber was cool to use to get around. Anyone know if this is true? Or is it best to stick with a taxi?

Also is there anything special I have to do when I get to the airport from the USA and also when I leave to go back to the USA?

Is there anything special I should bring with me in general?

Also how much money should I bring for a 3 week trip?

Also where is the best place to withdraw money from an ATM if I need more?

And what denominations of money is best to have?

I have T-Mobile and it works in a lot of countries including Panama. Would bringing and using my phone there be the best option?

And if there is anything else that you think a first timer should know about anything please let me know.

Thanks in advance.PM me. Have some info and contact # 's I can share.

Hobbiest1
08-17-16, 02:14
Thanks. But what if I need to exchange $20 bills for $1 bills what do I do? Also where are the safer ATM's located?As far as that goes. Do what I do. I bring $100 in $1 bills and $100 in $5's. Trust me. You will thank me as the Panamanians arent real quick to make change. Especially at Veneto.

As far as your other questions:

How do I get from the airport to hotel and back.

Go to the departures. Upstairs and get a taxi. Much cheaper. You should pay $15-$20 MAX.

Also I heard uber was cool to use to get around. Anyone know if this is true? Or is it best to stick with a taxi?

Stick with taxi in PTY. Prices are marginal. PTY has cheap taxis - 1 tip. NEVER ask how much. Just give $3 and you will be good when goin within the city.

Also is there anything special I have to do when I get to the airport from the USA and also when I leave to go back to the USA?

NOPE. Departure taxes are now paid in 99% of all airfares.

Is there anything special I should bring with me in general?

Generally. I always bring my own condoms and I bring a wireless speaker and of course a minimal change of clothes. Shorts and Tees. Leave the dinner jacket and trousers at home.

Also how much money should I bring for a 3 week trip?

That depends. I always figure $200/ day including drinks, chicas, food, etc. REMEMBER. You aren't going to bang 3 girls everyday. Average it out and $250/ day should be plenty.

Also where is the best place to withdraw money from an ATM if I need more?

Plenty of ATMs so best place may be in a well guarded casino but I never feel threatened in PTY. Use your spidey senses.

And what denominations of money is best to have?

See first response. Bring $1's and $5's.

I have T-Mobile and it works in a lot of countries including Panama. Would bringing and using my phone there be the best option?

Dunno. I always buy a sim card at a local store once I get settled. Usually around $50 for 1 month.

And if there is anything else that you think a first timer should know about anything please let me know.

Just enjoy. Go fuck the hot Columbians and Cubans. Eat at Beruit and Gaucho's. I hate the Hard Rock as I think they are assholes but just my personal opinion. The canal is a must do but don't feel like you have to watch the ship pass thru. Go and immerse in the culture of PTY.

If you need a private driver / tour guide I have a great one. PM me.

H1.

Lucky Nuts
08-17-16, 04:24
I'll be staying at the Hyatt. What banks and ATM's should I use in Panama City, Panama to withdraw and change money to different denominations? I was looking on a map and I saw that HSBC seems to be right across the street. Is this true and are they good to use? If not what are my other options?

ThanksI prefer to use the ATMs inside the Veneto Casino. And the cashier cage is right there if you want to break down the bills further. While you're there order a bowl of sancocho, it's awesome.

The hottest chicas at Habanos right now are from Venezuela. Not as many Cubanas anymore because the Costa Rica travel visa policy has changed.

Regarding telephone I'd recommend getting a local SIM card for $3. Then buying data there is cheap too. Phone stores are across and down the street in front of Veneto.

I usually go to Panama City for 3 nights instead of 3 weeks. You better start thinking about side trips already.

Good choice on Hyatt Place. Have fun!

Member #4476
08-22-16, 19:37
Quick question. Last time there we booked for two at the Hyatt Place just to make sure we had no hassles. They do charge an extra $10-$15 for the second person so I was wondering if anyone has booked for just one and whether it was any issue at all.

Just booked next trip and don't want to waste $50 if there is no need. Thanks.

YippieKayay
08-22-16, 21:30
Quick question. Last time there we booked for two at the Hyatt Place just to make sure we had no hassles. They do charge an extra $10-$15 for the second person so I was wondering if anyone has booked for just one and whether it was any issue at all

Jusat booked next trip and don't want to waste $50 if there is no need. Thanks.My advise is just book for one and pay the $15 chica fee if they ask for it. I haven't been in a year to this hotel but the last time I was there they never asked even registered the chicas. They literally didn't care.

Have fun!

NonStopParty
08-23-16, 01:54
Quick question. Last time there we booked for two at the Hyatt Place just to make sure we had no hassles. They do charge an extra $10-$15 for the second person so I was wondering if anyone has booked for just one and whether it was any issue at all.

Just booked next trip and don't want to waste $50 if there is no need. Thanks.I'm currently at Hyatt. I brought a chica to my room 2 days ago. No fee was charged. It's my first time here so I really didn't know what to do but I guess the chica did. As soon as we walked in the door chica immediately went to the front desk and handed the lady at the front desk her passport. I think the lady at the front desk made a copy, then asked me for my room number. Then me and the chica went to my room. When we left we left without even stopping at front desk. By the way I only booked the room for 1 person (myself).

Member #4476
08-23-16, 13:54
Thanks guys. Yes, there was no hassle last time, girls just gave ID and we went up. Just wasn't sure it would be same thing if you only booked for one. Appreciate the feedback.

NonStopParty
08-24-16, 22:04
I'm currently at Hyatt. I brought a chica to my room 2 days ago. No fee was charged. It's my first time here so I really didn't know what to do but I guess the chica did. As soon as we walked in the door chica immediately went to the front desk and handed the lady at the front desk her passport. I think the lady at the front desk made a copy, then asked me for my room number. Then me and the chica went to my room. When we left we left without even stopping at front desk. By the way I only booked the room for 1 person (myself).I brought a chica to my room at the Hyatt last night. No one was at the front desk so we just went up to my room. When we left the lady was at the front desk. She didn't say a word though.

Treading Water
08-28-16, 17:51
Just enjoy. Go fuck the hot Columbians and Cubans. Eat at Beruit and Gaucho's. I hate the Hard Rock as I think they are assholes but just my personal opinion. The canal is a must do but don't feel like you have to watch the ship pass thru. Go and immerse in the culture of PTY.

If you need a private driver / tour guide I have a great one. PM me.

H1.Thanks for the really helpful post Hobbiest1. I'm spending a few nights at Veneto in October and that was some really useful advice. I'm curious about the last part. What would the benefit be of having a private driver? The action all sounds like it's close and easy to find. Are there any good brothels that the driver can guide us to that we would find otherwise?

Treading Water
08-28-16, 18:06
I'm just getting started on ISG. I've been on the US site for a while but I'm just getting into international. I've had some good times in Tijuana, but I always use another forum for those reports.

Are there many English speaking chicas in Panama? My Spanish is pretty weak. I've been able to manage the negotiations in Tijuana but it's nice to be able to actually have a conversation, especially if you're going long time.

NonStopParty
08-29-16, 05:24
I brought a chica to my room at the Hyatt last night. No one was at the front desk so we just went up to my room. When we left the lady was at the front desk. She didn't say a word though.The last two times I brought a chica up to my room I had to sign them in. The person at the front desk took a photo copy of their ID or passport then asked me my room number and that was it. So I believe it is required to sign chicas in at the Hyatt.

Hobbiest1
08-29-16, 10:19
Thanks for the really helpful post Hobbiest1. I'm spending a few nights at Veneto in October and that was some really useful advice. I'm curious about the last part. What would the benefit be of having a private driver? The action all sounds like it's close and easy to find. Are there any good brothels that the driver can guide us to that we would find otherwise?The driver is a local and just knows stuff that I don't. I like it because if I want to take a day trip somewhere like the canal or monkey island. To me having one person rather than a bunch of random cabbies works better for me. It's kinda like I have my own tour guide.

Sky Ryder
09-06-16, 02:08
Okay,

I am not a newbie to ISG, but when it comes to knowledge about PC, I am clueless. I have done the required RTFF back a number of pages, but still have a few questions if you will indulge me.

Here is what I have learned so far. The Hyatt is a nice hotel and seems to be one of the preferred choices if you are going with a well know brand. I have pretty good status with Marriott and Hilton and would like some feedback about either of those chains hotels if someone is willing to share.

Seems like the top two locales for ladies are Venetoes and Habanos, and the pricing is somewhere about $100-$150 for ST and is hugely dependent on your skills in bargaining. I enjoy the club scene, but have seen some indication that using other sights might lead to some good results such as Seeking Arrangement, etc. I am wide open to suggestions!

I am planning a three night trip in a couple of weeks and trying to get some good ideas to maximize the trip.

I really like the idea of hiring a local driver or using Uber and appreciate the info!

TIA, I will be happy to write a review of the trip when it happens!

Sky.

Jasoonnn
09-06-16, 05:29
Okay,

I am not a newbie to ISG, but when it comes to knowledge about PC, I am clueless. I have done the required RTFF back a number of pages, but still have a few questions if you will indulge me.

Here is what I have learned so far. The Hyatt is a nice hotel and seems to be one of the preferred choices if you are going with a well know brand. I have pretty good status with Marriott and Hilton and would like some feedback about either of those chains hotels if someone is willing to share.

Seems like the top two locales for ladies are Venetoes and Habanos, and the pricing is somewhere about $100-$150 for ST and is hugely dependent on your skills in bargaining. I enjoy the club scene, but have seen some indication that using other sights might lead to some good results such as Seeking Arrangement, etc. I am wide open to suggestions!

I am planning a three night trip in a couple of weeks and trying to get some good ideas to maximize the trip.

I really like the idea of hiring a local driver or using Uber and appreciate the info!

TIA, I will be happy to write a review of the trip when it happens!

Sky.I think you are correct on pretty much all fronts.

Stay at Hyatt, nice hotel, pool, is very close to Habanos and Venetian, no chica fees.

I haven't stayed at Hilton or Marriott in PC, but I'm guessing they will have a chica fee.

I got ST for 100 $, and TDL for $200 to $300 depending on time / quality / negotiating skill.

You should also check out Ashe Nightclub. There are mainly pros working there, but is a nice club scene.

I used Uber and recommend that unless you want to head out further and see some sights as well.

Enjoy your trip, PC is a really cool place!

YippieKayay
09-06-16, 11:42
Okay,
Here is what I have learned so far. The Hyatt is a nice hotel and seems to be one of the preferred choices if you are going with a well know brand. I have pretty good status with Marriott and Hilton and would like some feedback about either of those chains hotels if someone is willing to share.
There is a Marriott right in front of Habanos but reports have mostly been that security will stop you and it is not chica friendly. Then again, there is bound to be someone to post to the contrary. The Hyatt is right up the street from Habanos and is very chica friendly. There have never been any reports of issues there. The only downside is there's no room service that I recall. Otherwise nice rooms. Get the deluxe room for a little more and it has more space in it. I doubt any of the girls will be impressed by The Hyatt since they probably have all been there by now, but it's certainly worth it for a mongering trip.



Seems like the top two locales for ladies are Venetoes and Habanos, and the pricing is somewhere about $100-$150 for ST and is hugely dependent on your skills in bargaining. I enjoy the club scene, but have seen some indication that using other sights might lead to some good results such as Seeking Arrangement, etc. I am wide open to suggestions!
Yes, 100-150 $ is about right for an hour. If the girl likes you and is not desperate for money you could also get TLN for a little more. Since you're only there for three nights I imagine you want to keep it transactional per hour. Pro tip: always buy the girl a drink at Habanos if its not too crowded and get a sense of her. If she won't have a beer with you or is in a rush the session will likely be shit.

For day game always collect numbers and whatsapp the hell out of them.

My only beef with Panama City is that it is boring during the day to the point of hellish. The only things to do is take tours, drink, and gamble.



I am planning a three night trip in a couple of weeks and trying to get some good ideas to maximize the trip.

I really like the idea of hiring a local driver or using Uber and appreciate the info!
You don't need a local driver but to each his own. Not to brag but in the beginning I always used chicas as tour guides. They got the price from the taxi even before I got in. Now I'm pro enough in Panama I already know the price and just pay the guy as I leave the cab, or tell him how much I will pay as I get in. I'd say use uber or a chica to get you around. I can't fathom why you would pay a guy full time if you can be paying less to a chica to do the same for you.

Dickhead
09-06-16, 16:20
My only beef with Panama City is that it is boring during the day to the point of hellish. And very similar to hell in temperature as well. Don't pay $150 at Hábanos. 95% will go for $100 and the other 5% are stuck up kunts.

Lee
09-07-16, 00:05
Newsflash:

The Hyatt has added room service.

Lee.

BillyBob3000
09-07-16, 15:30
Newsflash:

The Hyatt has added room service.

Lee.Yeah, but their food sucks. At least the food they sell in the lobby area. I rather walk the block or two and get better food. Just my opinion.

BillyBob

Lucky Nuts
09-09-16, 04:47
Okay,

I am not a newbie to ISG, but when it comes to knowledge about PC, I am clueless. I have done the required RTFF back a number of pages, but still have a few questions if you will indulge me.

Here is what I have learned so far. The Hyatt is a nice hotel and seems to be one of the preferred choices if you are going with a well know brand. I have pretty good status with Marriott and Hilton and would like some feedback about either of those chains hotels if someone is willing to share.

Seems like the top two locales for ladies are Venetoes and Habanos, and the pricing is somewhere about $100-$150 for ST and is hugely dependent on your skills in bargaining. I enjoy the club scene, but have seen some indication that using other sights might lead to some good results such as Seeking Arrangement, etc. I am wide open to suggestions!

I am planning a three night trip in a couple of weeks and trying to get some good ideas to maximize the trip.

I really like the idea of hiring a local driver or using Uber and appreciate the info!

TIA, I will be happy to write a review of the trip when it happens!

Sky.First, skip the Hhonors and Rewards program hotels in Panama and just stay at Hyatt Place. The Hilton and Marriott family hotels are not chica friendly here. Second skip the website or other electronic ideas for meeting chicas. Just walk over to Habanos and / or Veneto and / or Ashe (late night) and chat them up. Third skip the local driver and just use Uber. Have fun!

Sky Ryder
09-09-16, 14:30
First, skip the Hhonors and Rewards program hotels in Panama and just stay at Hyatt Place. The Hilton and Marriott family hotels are not chica friendly here. Second skip the website or other electronic ideas for meeting chicas. Just walk over to Habanos and / or Veneto and / or Ashe (late night) and chat them up. Third skip the local driver and just use Uber. Have fun!I would like to say "Gracias" to everyone that replied here or took the time to send me a PM. I have a pretty good idea of what / where. And half the fun is figuring out the "who". I am looking forward to the visit and will make sure to report on how it all works out.

If anyone decides to come over "behind the sun" to visit, I'll be happy to reciprocate. !!

Sky.

TripAdvisor16
09-09-16, 18:52
Just curious if anyone here has good experience with ebony Latinas in Panama and could recommend or share contact info.

Jaono
09-10-16, 18:36
Hi everyone,

Well I've read the forum a bunch of times but this is my first post and my first visit to Panama. Wow, I am in heaven. I didn't know that Latinas were my type. But now I do! Followed all the advice on the forum. Staying at the Hyatt, sim card and data from Claro, only going to Habanos. The result is that in under a week my all time top three (girls so amazing that I couldn't separate them) has expanded to a top 7, I may have to emigrate here. This is my first real mongering trip with that objective solely in mind, as opposed to it being a side benefit, so full reports to follow.

Tiny 12
09-11-16, 18:12
Just curious if anyone here has good experience with ebony Latinas in Panama and could recommend or share contact info.I recall being with two. Both were from Colombia and both were sweethearts, more girlfriend types than your average Colombian prostitute in el extranjero.

Halcyon901
09-18-16, 21:35
I just stayed one night in Panama City (about 12 hours) before heading out to Colombia. First time visitor, but read enough to know it was either Veneto's or Habano's. Read more good thing about Habano's, so got there around 9 pm this past Friday. Similar to LDV in Cartagena, but the drink prices are normal, and no salida / minimum drink requirement for the girl. I'd say maybe 50-60 chicas that night, I stayed until 10:30 pm when I took a flacca Venezuelan for a spin (I would guess most of the chicas were from Colombia and Venezuela).

She stayed with me until 4 am, and she 2 more friends that wanted to stop by at 2 am. My first foursome ever, nothing magical, I. E. No crazy lesbo action, but they were fun, "party" girls. Total came out to $250 for the spinner, and $100 each to her friends, plus a little extra for party favors.

BTW, I stayed at the Hilton on Ave Balboa, and for me at least, it was chica friendly (no extra charge, not even for the 2 additional girls that came up). They just needed to make copies of their passport before security let them in. Junior suite (about 60 square meters) with ocean view is very nice, even has a 25' balcony with table and chairs overlooking the ocean.

First two pics are of the spinner (awesome body with fake tetas and culo), last pic was all 3. They insisted on me taking the pictures, LOL.

Halcyon901
09-18-16, 21:39
Forgot to mention, use Uber when you can. The ride from the Hilton to Habanos (about 5 minutes) was $2. When I took a taxi back, it was $10!

Ride to the airport was $28, but $35 from the white taxi to the Hilton.

Naked Gunz
09-19-16, 00:55
First two pics are of the spinner (awesome body with fake tetas and culo), last pic was all 3. They insisted on me taking the pictures, LOL.They wanted to leave you a special gift! Great ass pic!

Lee
09-21-16, 18:18
Yeah, but their food sucks. At least the food they sell in the lobby area. I rather walk the block or two and get better food. Just my opinion.

BillyBobYou're right. Am at the Hyatt right now and I have to admit the food is bad.

Lee.

Divined23
09-23-16, 14:47
Hello fellow,

I'm headed to PTY for first time in October and wondering if the Trump is chica friendly. We're actually staying in the residences part at an AirBnB. Any intel would be greatly appreciated. I scoured the message board and saw one guy say it was $75 and another say it was free because of the way the hotels transfer from the ground floor to the casino or something. What's the latest?

Also, I'm seeing that Elite and Palace are top end but $150 to get out and then like $300 for hour or so. I usually prefer the strip club takeout dinning but that's pricey.

Sounds like Habs is best bet for money but need to find the better talent in a sea of women.

If you want to PM me can swap info on Mexico City, Tijuana, Tokyo, Rio, Floripa.

Tiny 12
09-26-16, 03:22
Forgot to mention, use Uber when you can. The ride from the Hilton to Habanos (about 5 minutes) was $2. When I took a taxi back, it was $10!

Ride to the airport was $28, but $35 from the white taxi to the Hilton.That's not a reason to take Uber. You paid the gringo price for the taxi.

Mellowg
09-27-16, 00:47
if the Trump is chica friendly.I know a few chicas that hang around in the casino. Mainly Thursday till Saturday. We are talking some 3 or 4 so the choice is extremely limited, on the other hand they are in the upper echelon of the scale and low twenties.

They are usually gone by 23:00.

Is the hotel charging a fee or not. That I cannot answer.

Enjoy.

Mellow.

Sukum
09-27-16, 06:36
Hello,

I mistakenly booked at the Holiday Inn Express for Oct 7 to 10 instead of Hyatt, can't cancel now. Does anyone know if it's chica friendly? What's the fee if not?

Also PM me if you're looking for a wing man.

S.

Hobbiest1
09-27-16, 15:55
I am headed there in a few days for the third trip in a little over a year. I have done just about every touristy thing from the canal and monkey island to biking the causeway, the metro, the mall, etc. I was curious if there were any good spots for daytime mongering? I have rtff and it seems maybe Red Lion. I'm not too enthusiastic about the MPs.

Are there places to maybe pick up semi-pro or locals during the day? Maybe if my housekeeper is hot I will offer her a propina Any guidance is appreciated.

H1.

TellAll
09-27-16, 16:32
I am headed there in a few days for the third trip in a little over a year. I have done just about every touristy thing from the canal and monkey island to biking the causeway, the metro, the mall, etc. I was curious if there were any good spots for daytime mongering? I have rtff and it seems maybe Red Lion. I'm not too enthusiastic about the MPs.

Are there places to maybe pick up semi-pro or locals during the day? Maybe if my housekeeper is hot I will offer her a propina Any guidance is appreciated.

H1.Plenty of ladies advertising in wanuncio. Some look pretty hot.

YippieKayay
09-27-16, 17:36
Are there places to maybe pick up semi-pro or locals during the day? Maybe if my housekeeper is hot I will offer her a propina Any guidance is appreciated.
I would usually hit the Veneto around 11 am after breakfast. Every time I did there were a few semi-pros sitting around the tables, or even at one of the black jack tables.

One time there were two women and a guy sitting at a table drinking a beer. One of the women looked right at me and made the sign for blowjob with her tongue in her mouth. $60 for a hard blow job.

The other time one of the girls at my blackjack table later approached me at the bar and said "De donde?" with a big smile. I took her out to lunch, bought her some minutes on her phone for a few bucks, fucked her, and then she stayed for a siesta. I gave her $150 before she left. I blew my load three times in her so it was worth it.

Veneto was worth it before it went to complete shit.

Please don't try to fuck the house keeper. It's one thing to travel to a country for fuck their working girls and it's an entirely different thing to start hitting on the average blue collar worker. Unless the maid is advertising sex I wouldn't initiate.

Hobbiest1
09-27-16, 17:48
Blackjack it is! I was seriously joking about the housekeeper. Thanks YK!!


I would usually hit the Veneto around 11 am after breakfast. Every time I did there were a few semi-pros sitting around the tables, or even at one of the black jack tables.

One time there were two women and a guy sitting at a table drinking a beer. One of the women looked right at me and made the sign for blowjob with her tongue in her mouth. $60 for a hard blow job.

The other time one of the girls at my blackjack table later approached me at the bar and said "De donde?" with a big smile. I took her out to lunch, bought her some minutes on her phone for a few bucks, fucked her, and then she stayed for a siesta. I gave her $150 before she left. I blew my load three times in her so it was worth it.

Veneto was worth it before it went to complete shit.

Please don't try to fuck the house keeper. It's one thing to travel to a country for fuck their working girls and it's an entirely different thing to start hitting on the average blue collar worker. Unless the maid is advertising sex I wouldn't initiate.

Dickhead
09-27-16, 18:02
Please don't try to fuck the house keeper. It's one thing to travel to a country for fuck their working girls and it's an entirely different thing to start hitting on the average blue collar worker. Unless the maid is advertising sex I wouldn't initiate.I have screwed at least 12-15 maids and housekeepers, primarily in hotels. Mostly in LatAm, but a couple in Europe as well. Of course, there is a right way and a wrong way to initiate it. Often they will say something like 'Algo más que pueda hacer para Ud?' or something similar, to indicate they are open to suggestions. There is nothing inherently offensive in 'hitting on' blue collar workers, if done respectfully and if you can take 'no' for an answer. I used to go to a different laundry every time when I lived in Buenos Aires, just to 'hit on average blue collar workers. ' I hit on 'average blue collar workers' in the US, too. After they are done cleaning your place, I don't see anything wrong with 'Quieres tomar una cerveza bien FRía?' and then, depending on the response, proceeding from there.

Hit on anyone you find attractive. Hit on them in the line at the grocery store. Hit on them on public transportation. Or, don't 'hit on' them but just 'chat them up' and see what happens. But don't push it if they don't seem interested. Now, and importantly, the phrases 'Tengo marido' or 'Tengo novio' are not necessarily outright rejections in Latin America. It depends on facial expression, body language, and so forth. It could just be an initial parry.

Now why the totally awesome correcting software decided to capitalize the first two letters in 'fría,' I have no clue!

Lucky Nuts
09-28-16, 04:35
Blackjack it is! I was seriously joking about the housekeeper. Thanks YK!!I spent M-F last week between Hyatt, Veneto, and Habanos. Daytime hobbying is very difficult if you want action in your own hotel room. Even after getting phone numbers I found less than half the chicas willing to show up before 7 PM. At Veneto there are two unattractive older chicas working days. They have always been there for the last couple years I've been visiting P.C.

Also want to pass on a "BEWARE OF" chica warning at Habanos. Embarrassed to say I think she's gotten me twice over the last couple years. A really hot blond 28 or 30 years old. Older than I ever take but she IS really hot. She is from Cali, Colombia or another town close to Cali. I don't recall her name but here's the identifier: A really hot BLOND from Cali, Colombia! Ask her how a blond could be from Cali, Colombia and she will tell you her father is Dutch. Run like hell if you meet her. She's an absolute con artitist and very good at it. Her service is terrible. Enough said.

There's only 4 or 5 Cubanas in Panama now. They are becoming residents of Panama. No more traveling thru on their way to USA due to Costa Rica visa policy change. Que lastima!

Lucky Nuts
09-28-16, 04:55
As most ya'll know already everyone should plan a night at Gaucho's for a steak dinner while in town. I bundled a deal with last week's favorite chica for a session before and after dinner. I sensed a bit of attitude from my waiter that I was entertaining a chica less than half my age. When the bill came (and luckily the chica went to el bano) the waiter told me my AmEx was "declined". I have no doubt he incorrectly entered something like the expiration date. AmEx had sent me an email saying "We know you are in Panama" since my airline and hotel were booked with them. And it worked just fine in ATL airport the next day. I don't know if it was intentional or accidental but I believe it was intentional because of the way he informed me. He just threw the card on the table and said "Declined!" I said no problem use my Visa and if that don't work I'll pay cash. Just wanted to give ya'll a heads up to have options available in this situation in case he does this often. You would think the waiters would appreciate this extra business and having a hot chica to see rather than all the old men in there. Oh well. The rib eye steak is excellent. Next time I'll order the largest one for sure ($39.95).

Dickhead
09-28-16, 08:47
I wonder if that happened because AMEX's fees charged to the merchant are considerably higher than Visa or Master Card. I say this because I've known other people in other places to have their AMEX cards mysteriously declined. They have a high-ass foreign currency conversion charge as well, so I never use mine outside the USA; I use Capital One Visa instead. No forex fees and 1. 5% back on everything. Also, they have a travel notification service you can do on-line and tell them what countries you will be going to. I think it will handle four or five countries per trip.

YippieKayay
09-28-16, 11:05
I spent M-F last week between Hyatt, Veneto, and Habanos. Daytime hobbying is very difficult if you want action in your own hotel room. Even after getting phone numbers I found less than half the chicas willing to show up before 7 PM. At Veneto there are two unattractive older chicas working days. They have always been there for the last couple years I've been visiting P.C.
Why no day game? I thought you was a player!



There's only 4 or 5 Cubanas in Panama now. They are becoming residents of Panama. No more traveling thru on their way to USA due to Costa Rica visa policy change. Que lastima!
There you are chasing cuban pussy again.

Hey guys so I'm thinking of breaking out of sex prison one last time this year and heading over to PC. Do the chicas start thinning out in November and heading back home or does it usually happen beginning of December?

Hyatt looks so cheap these days and the tickets I'm getting for practically nothing with all my points.

Mellowg
09-28-16, 13:06
...my AmEx was "declined".Amex is only just recently accepted in Panama and not everywhere. Used to be a few years ago is not accepted at all. So I am not surprised with your situation.

Also Gaucho has shown the same treatment to me about showing up with a sugarbabe (ok mine was about a third of my age, might have something to do with it). So let all the other white heads be aware.

As far as closing about AMEX, they are starting to stink. Their acceptance rate is dropping like flies here in Panama and also Costa Rica and especially in Canada. Since 2008 when they became a bank, they are missing the boat completely IMHO.

Mellow.

Kosher Kowboy
09-28-16, 16:04
Heading to PTY for a few days of women and gambling. I will be there the nights of October 3,4,5 and 6. Anyone going to be around?

I see many links to offshore sites but do any casinos have sportsbooks or are there sportsbooks to bet at separate from the casinos? Staying at the Hyatt. I don't mind slapping some money down on a game and playing a few hands in between women. First time to PTY been to MX, the DR, Costa Rica several times so looking forward to something new in the America's. Spent the entire year taking trips to GER and doing the FKK clubs over a dozen times so looking forward to a change of pace, and cheap mongering before December's FKK trip. Need a break from the EE women.

Be happy to meet up for some drinks, food, gambling and monger story sharing if any of you all are around PM me.

I'll buy the first round of bebidas.

On another note, thanks to all those who have contributed here over time, been some very useful information. Just 2 more questions:

1) a great reliable escort agency I can call, my Spanish is fine to order to the room, just want to avoid the scams. If you want the best of the best and willing to pay up for the real hot ones who also stay the complete hour (sexo inlimitado) , which is the best agency to contact. I know I could use the ads and Whatsapp etc but I'd prefer to dial one number, one I know is reliable.

And / or.

2) Whether it is onsite or take out, the best club for the hottest chicas, price aside. An ' upgrade' from Habano's if the mood should strike.

Seems $100-$150 gets you a good girl, if you got up to the $150-$300 level, best advise? I don't mind paying up to $300 for a session of multiple pops, if she stays for an hour + and is smoking hot. Better put what is the best $200-$300 could fetch.

Have a great day guys, maybe see one or two of you down there.

KC.

YippieKayay
09-28-16, 16:38
1) a great reliable escort agency I can call, my Spanish is fine to order to the room, just want to avoid the scams. If you want the best of the best and willing to pay up for the real hot ones who also stay the complete hour (sexo inlimitado) , which is the best agency to contact. I know I could use the ads and Whatsapp etc but I'd prefer to dial one number, one I know is reliable.
You really don't need an agency. There's no need for a middle man. There's plenty of available pussy without having to call anyone.



And / or.

2) Whether it is onsite or take out, the best club for the hottest chicas, price aside. An ' upgrade' from Habano's if the mood should strike.

Seems $100-$150 gets you a good girl, if you got up to the $150-$300 level, best advise? I don't mind paying up to $300 for a session of multiple pops, if she stays for an hour + and is smoking hot. Better put what is the best $200-$300 could fetch.

Have a great day guys, maybe see one or two of you down there.

KC.If you want to spend more money then LE Palace, and Elite strip clubs will be happy to over charge you.

But I'd like to give you good advice. Between Habanos and Veneto you should have plenty of variety at very reasonable prices. You can use the money you save to buy the girls a nice dinner and such, and that will really improve the overall experience.

Good luck.

Dickhead
09-28-16, 18:03
I'm confused. Do you want this:


cheap mongering Or this?


paying up to $300The two are mutually exclusive.

DarkSide99
09-28-16, 19:57
There's a Sportsbook in the Royal Casino on the second floor. It's a very short walk from the Hyatt.

Kosher Kowboy
09-28-16, 21:18
I'm confused. Do you want this:

Or this?

The two are mutually exclusive.I guess ' cheap mongering' as I put it was used more in a comparative way to what I've blown (had fun doing it) in the FKK clubs and prices in the USA. I apologize for the confusion. I've set 100/150 as my baseline for nighttime carry out and it looks like that is easy where others have kindly suggested.

However, I am interested in finding out the upper end be it 200 or 300 or whatever it may be and see if it is worth the difference in price / service between the Habano's / Veneto girls. If you can pay 200-300 and the girl you get is say 2-4 notches higher than a 100/150 girl on a scale of 1-10 than I would entertain that option othwerwise I'm more than content with the usual stops mentioned in many posts here.

Hope that clarifies and sorry if my original post was confusing. Perhaps what I am getting at is the price point delta between places like LE Palace and Elite (both suggested below) vs the 100/150 at Habano's / Veneto worth the difference in the opinion of Panama's regular and seasoned punters?

Hope that clears things up, thanks guys. I am not a fan of TLN, the massage parlors or even taking these girls to dinner or hanging out but to each their own I fully respect we all have our ways of playing and there exists no right or wrong, better or worse as we captain our own ships. . For me it is take one home, finish, go grab another one an hour later. But, I will pay up for a hour+ if the girl is an absolute knockout stunner that the majority of men would rate an 8+ otherwise a buck or buck and a half for the 5-8 range is fine.

Thanks.

KC.

YippieKayay
09-28-16, 21:29
However, I am interested in finding out the upper end be it 200 or 300 or whatever it may be and see if it is worth the difference in price / service between the Habano's / Veneto girls. If you can pay 200-300 and the girl you get is say 2-4 notches higher than a 100/150 girl on a scale of 1-10 than I would entertain that option othwerwise I'm more than content with the usual stops mentioned in many posts here.
If you want a step up from Habanos take a look at La Palace and Elite. The girls who work there are working for the strip club so there's some vetting going on there. I guess that's why they charge more.

Otherwise it's a farmers market. You pay what the vendor asks for, and not necessarily based on any metric of quality.

Dickhead
09-28-16, 21:38
KK, I know you've been to México, but did you notice that there is almost no relationship between price and quality there? That is true throughout Latin America. It's true of pussy. It's true of hotels. It's true of restaurants. The whole concept of Value = Quality divided by Price is anathema, as is the concept of price elasticity of demand. That is why you see businesses throughout Latin America raise prices when business is slow. That is why you see chicas go home alone at closing time, rather than accept a reduced price for a product that is similar to an airline seat in that it expires. This probably dates back to the time of Hernán Cortés, because the Spaniards could never figure out that extracting and importing more and more gold and silver, while continuing to produce nothing, only increased the money supply and thus the price level, since the supply of goods did not increase commensurately. Hence the failure of mercantilism. It took the wise Scot, Adam Smith, to point this out in his Treatise on Silver. That was published 240 years ago and they still do not get it in Latin America, which is why they are doomed to economic failure forever.

So if you want to pay twice as much, don't expect anything better!

Dickhead
09-28-16, 21:43
Otherwise it's a farmers market. You pay what the vendor asks for, and not necessarily based on any metric of quality.Who the hell pays what the vendor asks for at a farmer's market? Oh, wait a minute; I know: people who are uncomfortable with negotiating / bargaining, or with turning their back on someone and walking away. Hey, I'm from the US too, and it's not natural to me, either. But I do it, and if you don't, you get eaten alive in Latin America.

Kosher Kowboy
09-28-16, 22:46
KK, I know you've been to Mxico, but did you notice that there is almost no relationship between price and quality there? That is true throughout Latin America. It's true of pussy. It's true of hotels. It's true of restaurants. The whole concept of Value = Quality divided by Price is anathema, as is the concept of price elasticity of demand.

So if you want to pay twice as much, don't expect anything better!I agree with you partially (50%) . Value=Quality / price relates more to a good or item (sold on a shelf or catalogue) than a service (lawyer, hooker etc.). Their pussies, tits, mouths etc. Are fixed objects, they do not change w price paid yet their service levels definately do between various men. The guy who pays 100 for ' Rosa' gets the same pussy that the guy who pays 150 yet the guy paying 150 may (or may not) get better use of her pussy, this varying service quality unlike the non-changing physical quality is entirely different and not fixed. Quality with mongering must be broken in to two not a singular entity as you have done with the MX comment. One being looks, one being service. And you are correct, they do not always go hand in hand but one must separate the two rather than lump both in to one package. Sticking to the pussy, I'll answer you two ways. Yes, I've been to MX dozens and dozens of times and you are correct once again about the pussy throughout the world, not just Latin America. Dynamics remain the same be it in the USA, MX, AUS, GER and so on. My passport agrees with you fully. As to MX, you are right and you are wrong. (I don't mean that disrectfully, just discussing) There does exist a huge difference in price and quality when it comes to looks / body however when it comes to service what you say holds true 100%. Using the infamous now run down Boystown as an example, you had girls for $70 in say the club ' Papagayos' while you had girls in basic rooms for $20 when Boystown was hopping. And there was a huge difference between the $70 and $20 girls when it came to looks, such a gap that even Stevie Wonder would be able to see the difference. However when it comes to service, exactly what you said above held true, there was little to no difference in service levels. However, the girls making $70 were generally happier and did give better service than the $20 ones, they also had a much higher rate of PPS. Those two variables pulling at each other from opposite polar ends like a game of tug-of-war were always in play vs each other. So one could make an argument sometimes NOT always girls making more per act are happier and in turn SOME provide a better service but that has been debated for over a decade maybe two on these boards and others as have all the dynamics mentioned.

In Costa Rica the massage parlor girls were 50% the cost of a girl at the Del Ray but the service level often exceeded that of those at the Del Ray. Exactly as you say, and those familiar with the old Beetle Bar in Jaco know that the same girls work there on the weekends that work the Del Ray during the week yet raise their prices and give shittier service in Jaco. Thats where your opinion of the concept of price elasticity of demand comes in, and you are correct. I will even add to your correct theory in yet another split dynamic; that you get the same girl providing two diff price points AND two diff levels of service all depending on whether they are in the Del Ray in San Juan or the Beetle Bar on the fancy west coast of CR. So we have two types of quality, looks and service, and in the CR example a split dynamic of location adding to the mix as the other variables (same girl) are the same. The john also is entirely different, more blue collar in SJ yet white collar in Jaco thus driving up demand / amount willing to pay and the impetus behind the exact same girls providing a diff service and charging more based on the ' suits' on CR's west coast. Maybe things changed in Jaco, been over 10 years, heard it wasn't the same.

But when we discuss quality in this little game we play, two qualities exist, that of looks and that of service and the two as most know do not always go hand in hand either. What I am getting at here is not the service level you get in PTY as price goes up. Simply put:

' In the experience of Panama City's experienced mongers, if you pay more at a place like Elite is the girl better looking in general than if you pay less at Habano's? ' (this question intentionally leaves out all aspects of service).

Quality of service not asking about, simply looks. Service I will negotiate on my own. I think the seasoned mongers can sniff out the scammers 90% of the time, always a risk, one I am willing to and enjoy taking. I like a good challenge.

I appreciate the replies, hell if you are in PTY when I am I'll buy drinks and a dinner if anyone is game.

Respectfully,

KC.

Lucky Nuts
09-29-16, 03:33
I agree with you partially (50%) . Value=Quality / price relates more to a good or item (sold on a shelf or catalogue) than a service (lawyer, hooker etc.). Their pussies, tits, mouths etc. Are fixed objects, they do not change w price paid yet their service levels definately do between various men. The guy who pays 100 for ' Rosa' gets the same pussy that the guy who pays 150 yet the guy paying 150 may (or may not) get better use of her pussy, this varying service quality unlike the non-changing physical quality is entirely different and not fixed. Quality with mongering must be broken in to two not a singular entity as you have done with the MX comment. One being looks, one being service. And you are correct, they do not always go hand in hand but one must separate the two rather than lump both in to one package. Sticking to the pussy, I'll answer you two ways. Yes, I've been to MX dozens and dozens of times and you are correct once again about the pussy throughout the world, not just Latin America. Dynamics remain the same be it in the USA, MX, AUS, GER and so on. My passport agrees with you fully. As to MX, you are right and you are wrong. (I don't mean that disrectfully, just discussing) There does exist a huge difference in price and quality when it comes to looks / body however when it comes to service what you say holds true 100%. Using the infamous now run down Boystown as an example, you had girls for $70 in say the club ' Papagayos' while you had girls in basic rooms for $20 when Boystown was hopping. And there was a huge difference between the $70 and $20 girls when it came to looks, such a gap that even Stevie Wonder would be able to see the difference. However when it comes to service, exactly what you said above held true, there was little to no difference in service levels. However, the girls making $70 were generally happier and did give better service than the $20 ones, they also had a much higher rate of PPS. Those two variables pulling at each other from opposite polar ends like a game of tug-of-war were always in play vs each other. So one could make an argument sometimes NOT always girls making more per act are happier and in turn SOME provide a better service but that has been debated for over a decade maybe two on these boards and others as have all the dynamics mentioned.

In Costa Rica the massage parlor girls were 50% the cost of a girl at the Del Ray but the service level often exceeded that of those at the Del Ray. Exactly as you say, and those familiar with the old Beetle Bar in Jaco know that the same girls work there on the weekends that work the Del Ray during the week yet raise their prices and give shittier service in Jaco. Thats where your opinion of the concept of price elasticity of demand comes in, and you are correct. I will even add to your correct theory in yet another split dynamic; that you get the same girl providing two diff price points AND two diff levels of service all depending on whether they are in the Del Ray in San Juan or the Beetle Bar on the fancy west coast of CR. So we have two types of quality, looks and service, and in the CR example a split dynamic of location adding to the mix as the other variables (same girl) are the same. The john also is entirely different, more blue collar in SJ yet white collar in Jaco thus driving up demand / amount willing to pay and the impetus behind the exact same girls providing a diff service and charging more based on the ' suits' on CR's west coast. Maybe things changed in Jaco, been over 10 years, heard it wasn't the same.

But when we discuss quality in this little game we play, two qualities exist, that of looks and that of service and the two as most know do not always go hand in hand either. What I am getting at here is not the service level you get in PTY as price goes up. Simply put:

' In the experience of Panama City's experienced mongers, if you pay more at a place like Elite is the girl better looking in general than if you pay less at Habano's? ' (this question intentionally leaves out all aspects of service).

Quality of service not asking about, simply looks. Service I will negotiate on my own. I think the seasoned mongers can sniff out the scammers 90% of the time, always a risk, one I am willing to and enjoy taking. I like a good challenge.

I appreciate the replies, hell if you are in PTY when I am I'll buy drinks and a dinner if anyone is game.

Respectfully,

KC.I found a stunner one night at Elite and paid the big bucks for her. It wasn't impulsive either. I had to go back to my hotel room and get the money then return to Elite. But I was "stunned" at how beautiful this chica was and how she danced the pole. The next day I was very sorry I did it and I've never returned to Elite since. The problem is that the cost is not a "little more" for a "little hotter" chica. It's a crazy amount something like $450 total. So I don't go there to be tempted anymore. There are equally hot chicas at Habanos but of course they also get scooped up the quickest. The best nights to score the hottest chicas are M,Tu, & W. Thursday is party night for groups of business guys in town and the place is jammed. From my experience the weekends have the fewest chicas but I haven't been there on a weekend in over a year so can't say if things might have changed.

Lucky Nuts
09-29-16, 04:01
Why no day game? I thought you was a player!

There you are chasing cuban pussy again.

Hey guys so I'm thinking of breaking out of sex prison one last time this year and heading over to PC. Do the chicas start thinning out in November and heading back home or does it usually happen beginning of December?

Hyatt looks so cheap these days and the tickets I'm getting for practically nothing with all my points.Oh yeah I still had good day game last week. I just said it's very difficult and less than half the chicas want to come over before 7 so make sure you collect plenty of whatsapp numbers first night in town.

Got to love those Cubanas! Since they are in sort supply in Panama I'm going straight to the source in December. My second trip there.

To answer your question I think November is a perfectly good time to visit Panama.

Dickhead
09-29-16, 09:02
I agree that the quality to price ratio is more consistent in terms of looks than in terms of service, although it's certainly not a tight correlation. Service is much more important to me than looks, I will say that. Looks have to meet a minimum standard, and then I focus pretty much entirely on service. That was less true when I was younger.

TripAdvisor16
09-29-16, 15:07
I guess ' cheap mongering' as I put it was used more in a comparative way to what I've blown (had fun doing it) in the FKK clubs and prices in the USA. I apologize for the confusion. I've set 100/150 as my baseline for nighttime carry out and it looks like that is easy where others have kindly suggested.

However, I am interested in finding out the upper end be it 200 or 300 or whatever it may be and see if it is worth the difference in price / service between the Habano's / Veneto girls. If you can pay 200-300 and the girl you get is say 2-4 notches higher than a 100/150 girl on a scale of 1-10 than I would entertain that option othwerwise I'm more than content with the usual stops mentioned in many posts here.

Hope that clarifies and sorry if my original post was confusing. Perhaps what I am getting at is the price point delta between places like LE Palace and Elite (both suggested below) vs the 100/150 at Habano's / Veneto worth the difference in the opinion of Panama's regular and seasoned punters?

Hope that clears things up, thanks guys. I am not a fan of TLN, the massage parlors or even taking these girls to dinner or hanging out but to each their own I fully respect we all have our ways of playing and there exists no right or wrong, better or worse as we captain our own ships. . For me it is take one home, finish, go grab another one an hour later. But, I will pay up for a hour+ if the girl is an absolute knockout stunner that the majority of men would rate an 8+ otherwise a buck or buck and a half for the 5-8 range is fine.

Thanks.

KC.With that attitude your pocket will get raped! Change that or pay big! $100 for a 10 should be what you pay MAX, if you like maybe $300 all night! Don't make things bad for everyone by paying more and emptying your own pocket!

If you don't adjust your mindset, they will [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) your pocket! Take this advice and don't let them take you for an ATM machine! $ don't equate to a quality experience with these chicas!

They just see an opportunity to dig for gold!

Kosher Kowboy
09-29-16, 21:41
With that attitude your pocket will get raped! Change that or pay big! $100 for a 10 should be what you pay MAX, if you like maybe $300 all night! Don't make things bad for everyone by paying more and emptying your own pocket!


They just see an opportunity to dig for gold!Perhaps your critisism is constructive in nature but this isn't my first rodeo.

I've seen plenty of Latin Americans, amongst a slew of other types of ladies in my life abroad and can hold my own. I actually find them (even the hot Columbian girls) very easy to negotiate with. Haven't been to Columbia yet (springtime) but they have been in just about every locale I have mongered in, even the FKK's. The Romanians are actually tougher, they toss curveballs and sinkers and sliders not just fastballs and underhanded softball pitches. The Columbians work all over the world. I'm not worried about my ATM card getting eaten alive, more woried about the mosquitos.

But one comment on prices, one guy paying $1, $10, $100 or $1,000,000 will not drive up prices however hundreds if not thousands of men paying more would. I am just one. So what I pay is irrelevant except to myself and the hooker. Every monger is their own boss, ' unions' don't exist and even the hookers who click together and promise not to budge always have several who will not conform and give in to the john.

That being said, I am interested in your ' 100 for a 10 being the max' one should pay comment. I can't imagine all the girls being 10's and if 100 seems to be one of the going rates +/- a few bucks for a Habano quality girl, does this mean I should pay no more than (please insert your suggested price here) for a girl who I consider a 5-8 ? Just curious.

If a 10 gets 100 than what is your price structure on the non 10's?

Dickhead
09-29-16, 23:39
I would have said much the same thing to KK had I not remembered him from many years ago. It's true that Romanians are some of the shiftiest, and if he can handle them, he will probably be okay in PTY. And, since he won't be going to Colombia for a while, he will have plenty of time to learn how to spell it correctly. Although, he'll probably spell it Kolombia, but that is better than Kolumbia. He has some very funny posts from México going back ten years or so.

This attitude, however, is complete horseshit and is what messed up Costa Rica: "one guy paying $1, $10, $100 or $1,000,000 will not drive up prices however hundreds if not thousands of men paying more would. I am just one. So what I pay is irrelevant except to myself and the hooker. " It is indeed relevant, and if you want to come down and [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) in the pond, you are on your own.

Kosher Kowboy
09-30-16, 00:06
This attitude, however, is complete horseshit and is what messed up Costa Rica: "one guy paying $1, $10, $100 or $1,000,000 will not drive up prices however hundreds if not thousands of men paying more would. I am just one. So what I pay is irrelevant except to myself and the hooker. " It is indeed relevant, and if you want to come down and in the pond, you are on your own.I agree with you actually, the johns collectively screwed up Costa Rica. They paid up. And yes, I will get the spelling right for 'Kolombia ' ! What I really meant was if I go to PTY or anywhere and paid $1,000,000 myself alone would not force up prices as one single monger. However, if many mongers did such than yes, what happened in CR could happen anywhere. I think we actually agree. Glad you enjoyed some ancient MX posts, I dropped the 3rd person writing style and the ' K's as well in recent years. The CR and DR reports all dissapeared when another board went under.

Shifty is a great word you chose for the Romanians, first one I did started negotiating her tip with my dick in her mouth, they never lose focus of the Benjamin's, or Euros in their case.

I'm not looking to pay over market or outbid anyone, I am a cheap J** by nature, but I would pay up as in rent an Elite girl for an hour at market price if you got great quality AND you got great looks and it was market rate; like anything I don't want to pay more than I have to, I'd rather fly home with it and put it towards a RT ticket to Frankfort! Or Berlin, Artemis was my favorite.

Dickhead
09-30-16, 00:31
Romania does not use the euro. Minus five. Similar to Poland, where I am now, they don't have their fiscal shit together enough to qualify to use it. Your credibility is eroding. I don't like Romanian women. Had enough of them in Spain. Polish women are fat. I was just in Latvia and there are a lot of hot women there.

But do you really want to fly to the capital of Kentucky? Are there good hookers in Kentucky? I thought everyone was strung out on heroin or Oxy.

Kosher Kowboy
09-30-16, 00:47
Romania does not use the euro.No, they don't. But the Romanians you screw in the FKK clubs in Germany to which I was referring you do pay in Euros. They are Romanians getting paid in Germany. I was never in Romania. So, when I said the Romanians never took their minds off the Euros perhaps that was because they were getting paid in Euros by the johns there. Do I need to apply to get my 5 points back now or am I going to get -5 for another infraction of (k) redibility.

Latvia, guess they do breed beauties, I banged a beauty from there at Artemis. Hot blond, blue eyes (perhaps contacts), perfect body.

Lucky Nuts
09-30-16, 03:28
Romania does not use the euro. Minus five. Similar to Poland, where I am now, they don't have their fiscal shit together enough to qualify to use it. Your credibility is eroding. I don't like Romanian women. Had enough of them in Spain. Polish women are fat. I was just in Latvia and there are a lot of hot women there.

But do you really want to fly to the capital of Kentucky? Are there good hookers in Kentucky? I thought everyone was strung out on heroin or Oxy.I'm interested in hearing more on Latvia. Is there an active message board for that country? I've been thinking of getting there before it's part of Russia again. What's the going price range?

Are you keeping notes? You really ought to write a book titled Dickhead lol.

Dickhead
09-30-16, 10:02
People are always telling me I should write a book on either mongering or traveling, or both. Writing is hard work. I'm retired. I was only in Latvia for two nights. One night I went out to dinner with a woman from Spain I picked up in line at the grocery store, and the other night I got drunk with a bunch of Aussies. I didn't monger. I'm just saying the regular women are pretty good looking. I did see two obvious hookers on the flight from Riga to Warsaw, but I don't know which country they were from. I tried to look at their passports when we were boarding but was unsuccessful in spotting the country. There is a board for Latvia, and there was a pussy club right by my hotel in Old Town. Those clubs in Europe are always too expensive for me.

But I don't think Latvia will ever be part of Russia again. They hate those fuckers. Latvia did not give them citizenship, or their descendants either, so a lot of the ethnic Russians there are stateless. They changed that law finally, as far as the descendants go, but they did not make it retroactive. I did not go to Lithuania, but the other two Baltic States seemed to be doing quite well on their own, if the number of drunk British tourists puking in the streets is any indication. But I liked Latvia a lot more than Estonia. Better beer and cuter women.

I'll give KK back 3 of the 5 points now that he has clarified, but I bet a lot of those hookers still think in lei, since they are probably all making remittance payments.

Buster McNutty
09-30-16, 21:57
I visited and stayed at the Hilton in July. I'm seeing some misinformation about it; it is chica friendly. They charge a $15 guest parking fee and take their passport and copy it. Or you can go in through the casino, take that elevator bank to the pool level, and then grab a separate bank of elevators to the rooms. Not the best place to pick up ladies, but you get Honors points.

Buffed
10-03-16, 00:29
After joining this board several years ago I've returned in preparation for a planned trip to Medellin. While I've chased babes across the globe my visit to PC was one of the best so I thought I'd share my experience from a trip I made there one year ago with a buddy.

During one of my two trips to the Del Rey in CR I talked with a girl who told me about "Veneto. " I booked a room there for $55 a night (three nights) so even with the high guest fee of $42 my room cost was still under $100 per night. The rooms aren't fancy but they are clean and served my purposes just fine. Furthermore, I was impressed with it's location in the Financial District of PC which is fairly nice and not too dangerous. One thing I liked about Veneto was the hotel pool which had a couple working girls in bikinis, one in particular was a fairly hot girl named Andrea, a Colombian who would have made a tasty afternoon snack. However, I was keeping my powder dry for an evening big game hunt.

The festivities take place in the hotel bar / casino and here's the best part about Panama; it's non-smoking! Yeah! I freaking hate second-hand smoke and being able to chase babes in a bar without having to breathe that crap is a huge plus in my book. (Also, very few of these girls smoke anyway) The bar is loaded with girls, 99% of whom would rate a 3 or less but don't be discouraged because the 1% are super-hot. I'll come back to this subject in a moment.

Do not, repeat, do not grab the first girl you meet in either Veneto's or Habano's until you've fully evaluated the available talent in both places. Habano's is just about a ten minute safe walk at most from Veneto. In the evening it's absolutely crammed with girls who on average are much better looking than the Veneto crew. As with Veneto. Most of the girls you'll meet at Habano's are Colombian although I met girls there from several different countries including Spain, Cuba, Central Europe, Venezuela, etc.

There was one absolutely mind-blowing scorching hot babe who had a level of class and sophistication above the others. About 5. 5-5.7, killer curvy body, brownish blonde hair in a bun, wearing a stylish pants suit. She was walking ahead of me just before we reached the entrance to Habano's and I quipped "muy bonita chica" and she turned her head with a nice friendly smile of appreciation although she kept walking. This gave me a moment of pause for thought as a normal working girl given the least bit of encouragement would have you in a headlock instantly trying to close the deal. She entered and stood by herself along the rail along the elevated portion of the bar. She was clearly not on the prowl, rather seeming to be biding her time. After about a half hour I saw her climb into a black SUV with a clean-cut guy probably in his mid-30's. Are there any board members with a lot experience at Habano's who can shed light on this girl? Trust me, she's head and shoulders above any of the others so I'm sure I'm not the only one who would have been left with a lasting impression of her.

I'm only interested in the creme de la creme and I'm not afraid to go back empty handed at the end of an evening as I did on my final third night. As I mentioned earlier the average girl at Habano's is much better than at Veneto so it was ironic that outside of the Habano's super babe the two hottest babes I found were at Veneto's. The first evening I met Connie, a girl from Medellin about 5.5 with a beautiful face, long black hair, and a killer body without an once of fat, firm but just soft and smooth enough to the touch. The next night I met Angela, thin, 5. 9 beautiful face from Baranquilla. Both of these gorgeous girls were fantastic in bed and went at it like wild animals. They both asked for $150 and were well worth it and more. FYI- I asked Connie about doing an overnight and her price was $600.

Our trip was brief so we never ventured beyond the financial district but Habano's and Veneto provided all the entertainment options we needed. All the Colombian girls I've met in the states are gorgeous and the two best ones I met in Panama were also Colombians so I'm looking forward to my coming trip to Medellin. What are some of the other board members thoughts of PC vs MDE, in terms of quality and what locations best approximate the Veneto / Habano's experience.

YippieKayay
10-03-16, 12:52
Our trip was brief so we never ventured beyond the financial district but Habano's and Veneto provided all the entertainment options we needed. All the Colombian girls I've met in the states are gorgeous and the two best ones I met in Panama were also Colombians so I'm looking forward to my coming trip to Medellin. What are some of the other board members thoughts of PC vs MDE, in terms of quality and what locations best approximate the Veneto / Habano's experience.Glad you had a good time. $600 for TLN is a bit high. I got it for $200-$300 in the past.

As far as I know there's no such thing as Veneto or Habanos or any setup like it in Medellin. I'm going in November and my research indicates the closest is going to the bar at one of the Mansions. You can find information on those places deep in the Medellin thread. Otherwise in Medellin the locals prefer not to have it out in the open.

PC is great but it's just boring during the day as I mentioned before in the thread.

TripAdvisor16
10-03-16, 16:45
After joining this board several years ago I've returned in preparation for a planned trip to Medellin. While I've chased babes across the globe my visit to PC was one of the best so I thought I'd share my experience from a trip I made there one year ago with a buddy.

During one of my two trips to the Del Rey in CR I talked with a girl who told me about "Veneto. " I booked a room there for $55 a night (three nights) so even with the high guest fee of $42 my room cost was still under $100 per night. The rooms aren't fancy but they are clean and served my purposes just fine. Furthermore, I was impressed with it's location in the Financial District of PC which is fairly nice and not too dangerous. One thing I liked about Veneto was the hotel pool which had a couple working girls in bikinis, one in particular was a fairly hot girl named Andrea, a Colombian who would have made a tasty afternoon snack. However, I was keeping my powder dry for an evening big game hunt.

The festivities take place in the hotel bar / casino and here's the best part about Panama; it's non-smoking! Yeah! I freaking hate second-hand smoke and being able to chase babes in a bar without having to breathe that crap is a huge plus in my book. (Also, very few of these girls smoke anyway) The bar is loaded with girls, 99% of whom would rate a 3 or less but don't be discouraged because the 1% are super-hot. I'll come back to this subject in a moment.

Do not, repeat, do not grab the first girl you meet in either Veneto's or Habano's until you've fully evaluated the available talent in both places. Habano's is just about a ten minute safe walk at most from Veneto. In the evening it's absolutely crammed with girls who on average are much better looking than the Veneto crew. As with Veneto. Most of the girls you'll meet at Habano's are Colombian although I met girls there from several different countries including Spain, Cuba, Central Europe, Venezuela, etc..Hey, was the Angela a fit gym girl with a hard body? Secondly the girl you are inquiring about, does she have a lot of tattoos? Daunting eyes, serious face?

Buffed
10-05-16, 07:00
Hey, was the Angela a fit gym girl with a hard body? Secondly the girl you are inquiring about, does she have a lot of tattoos? Daunting eyes, serious face?No she's got a long light brown hair and no tattoos as far as I can remember. At 5'. 9" without shoes she's definitely on the tall side with a perfect young better although not muscular. I'd been doing laps around the casino when I rounded a corner of the slot machines heading toward the front entrance when I ran into her head-on. It was an instant no-brainier so probably five seconds elapsed before we were on our way down to the front desk to pay the guest fee.

Buffed
10-05-16, 07:11
Glad you had a good time. $600 for TLN is a bit high. I got it for $200-$300 in the past.

As far as I know there's no such thing as Veneto or Habanos or any setup like it in Medellin. I'm going in November and my research indicates the closest is going to the bar at one of the Mansions. You can find information on those places deep in the Medellin thread. Otherwise in Medellin the locals prefer not to have it out in the open.

PC is great but it's just boring during the day as I mentioned before in the thread.Yes, I agree that it was too much but I understand why Connie would ask it because she was by far and away the hottest working girl in either Veneto or Habano's that evening (first night, Angela was second night). She could have been racking-up $150 dollars every 45 minutes all night long.

Since PC was new to us we didn't get bored during the day as we walked around touring the immediate vicinity of Veneto. Also, there was Andrea and a couple less attractive girls to hold our attention at the Veneto pool in the afternoon.

GasparLeMarc12
10-05-16, 07:59
I'll be arriving this Thurs for 3 days if anyone is interested in wingman activities, food or drink and storytelling, PM me.

TripAdvisor16
10-06-16, 14:26
Guys,

The new hotel next to Hard Rock. Is it girl friendly? Any experience?

Hobbiest1
10-06-16, 14:52
This is my third trip in a period of about 18 months.

Arrival day 1 - Arrived at noon and breezed thru immigration. Went upstairs at departures to get a cab but there weren't any available as there were two airport cops watching and nobody wanted to offer a ride. I was in a hurry so went downstairs to the cab line. Got one for $25 to my hotel. Hyatt Place. Checked in and went to my favorite place for sushi. The Hotel Panama. Enjoyed some great sushi and then went to Veneto at around 2 pm for some black jack. Lost $200 pretty quickly so I decided to go back to the Hyatt for a nap. Woke up at 6 and went to Veneto again. There was nothing special but I did meet a pretty hot chica (7. 5) from Venezuala. She was about 5'3 with straight brown hair, nice tits and nice ass- Karen I think. Got her number in case I needed it in a pinch. I stayed at the V for about 2 hours then headed over to Habanos. Grabbed a table and a drink and the ladies started to stop by and say Ola. After a few hours I ended up taking back another hot Venezuelan. Don't remember her name but she was about 5'7 with a nice bubble butt and the nicest smile (on a pair of red DS lips) ever. She asked for $200 originally but quickly got down to $120. At Hyatt Place they asked her for passport and asked for my room but they were cool. She was very good with all positions available except for anal. After the fun I went to Manolos for a late night snack. It was around 1 am so I headed back to get a good nights sleep.

Days 2 and 3 to come.

TripAdvisor16
10-06-16, 17:25
Guys,

The new hotel next to Hard Rock. Is it girl friendly? Any experience?Hotel Las Americas Golden Tower Panamá.

Hobbiest1
10-06-16, 20:40
Friday September 30 - Day 2.

I slept in and went to start the day where I ended it. Breakfast at Manolo. The weather was shitty with rain so I went to a local market and bought some Vodka and Fresca and headed back to the hotel. Listened to some music and had a few drinks in prep for the evening. My wireless speakers lost their charge. Son of a *****! About 4 the rain cleared so I went to a little phone shop and found another wireless speaker for $10. Back to hotel. More drinks. Same drill as last night. Waste a couple hours at Veneto and then go to Habanos. The talent at Veneto at 6:30 wasn't great but it isn't any better anywhere else. Had a few cold Coronas and was entertained by a really tiny Mexican and a Colombian. Bought them a drink so I had some company and chatted using Google translate. It was fun but not exactly what I was looking for. The clocked ticked 8 pm and I went to Habanos. Got a table in a prime spot and the chicas started rolling in. After several "interviews" I had a nice dark haired Colombian (Laura) try to teach me espanol. We had a couple drinks and then went back to the Hyatt for a little private tutoring lesson. Laura was very sensual with kissing. OMG! She damn near wore me out. I let her leave after 2 hours of fun at $120. I went to Manolo again and had some fun watching all the talent from Veneto come have some comida. Night 2 was a success. Night 3 to follow.

Hobbiest1
10-08-16, 20:34
Saturday I got up early and hit the gym at the Hyatt Place and then had breakfast. The gym was perfect for me as I just do the Elliptical to work off the extra calories from drinking all night. The breakfast was pretty good with many choices including fresh fruit, eggs, french toast etc. When I woke up I decided pretty early in the day that I was going to have some daytime fun so I called one of the girls that I met at Veneto. She came by the hotel for $80 which I thought was a good deal. This was perfect for me because my last day I don't go out late because I have early flights. After my little indulgence I went to Crown casino to bet some college football and on my parlay card I went a PERFECT 0 for 4. Oh well. Win some lose some. After that I went to Beruit restaurant. I know Beruit gets pretty good reviews on this board but I am not a fan. They don't go out of their way to speak English and the food is way too salty. That's pretty much in so in summation:

Airport transportation can be got for 20 - 25.

The girls at Veneto are really not so bad looking. Some good looking ladies so don't write off Veneto.

Habanos is chock full of chicas. Almost all hot.

The day can suck when waiting until 8 - there's little to do in PTY when you have done it all twice.

Hyatt Place is a great deal for now. With internet, breakfast, good gym and pool you can't beat it. PLUS its clean!

Don't stay the extra day on Sunday because Sunday NOTHING is going on.

That's it for now. Headed to Shanghai (Scamhai) next month!!

H1.

YippieKayay
10-08-16, 22:50
The day can suck when waiting until 8 - there's little to do in PTY when you have done it all twice.

Hyatt Place is a great deal for now. With internet, breakfast, good gym and pool you can't beat it. PLUS its clean!

Don't stay the extra day on Sunday because Sunday NOTHING is going on.
Thanks for the report. Yes, that pretty much sums it up. The only other thing you could have done is hit the massage parlors during the day. Otherwise, it's gambling, and any day time action you can find up at the Veneto.

Treading Water
10-09-16, 07:23
I arrived about 8 PM, got picked up at the airport by a very nice tour planner. Many thanks to BillyBob3000 and TripPlanner16 for the tip. Tonight I spent the early evening settling in and RTFF. I'm staying at Veneto, so I did a little tour of the casino and checked out the talent down there. It was better than I expected from what I had read here. There are some very fine women hanging out in the casino.

I mostly wanted to get the lay of the land so I walked down to Habanos. It was farther than I thought. I have bad ankles so I wouldn't do it again. I did see some very fine looking street girls along the walk though. I was pretty tempted but wanted to get to Habanos because I had read so much about it. Habanos was packed and there are indeed many many fine girls there. Definitely more of a selection than Veneto, but I wouldn't have had much trouble finding prime women at either place. At Habanos I met a cute and bubbly Colombian from Cali named Erica who I decided to take back to the room. We had a couple drinks and she introduced me to her friend Andrea. I've been wanting to do a threesome for a while so I took them both home.

We got a cab outside of Habanos and I didn't ask how much before we got in. Big mistake. When we got to the hotel the guy wanted $20 for the three block cab ride from Habanos. I told him no way and argued for a while and then ended up giving him $10 to get rid of him.

In the room, the girls were nice enough, but not exactly GFE. Pretty pro really. They wouldn't let me use the same cover in both of them so I had to swap when I switched girls, which was a real bummer. Is that common? It was a little too pro for me. I wouldn't repeat with them. I'm going to try more of a non-pro tomorrow night.

YippieKayay
10-09-16, 23:29
They wouldn't let me use the same cover in both of them so I had to swap when I switched girls, which was a real bummer. Is that common? It was a little too pro for me. I wouldn't repeat with them. I'm going to try more of a non-pro tomorrow night.Yes, they will insist on switching condoms but I've only tried a two-some once. It was actually my first night in Panama back in 2014!

I had a regular girl I was bare backing, and made sure she was on the pill. But that's rare. She allowed bareback by the second night after I took her dining and to the movies. And she fashioned herself as my 'esposa. ' Many months later I discovered she was working regularly at Habanos so I got tested ASAP.

Hobbiest1
10-10-16, 01:39
Yes, they will insist on switching condoms but I've only tried a two-some once. It was actually my first night in Panama back in 2014!

I had a regular girl I was bare backing, and made sure she was on the pill. But that's rare. She allowed bareback by the second night after I took her dining and to the movies. And she fashioned herself as my 'esposa. ' Many months later I discovered she was working regularly at Habanos so I got tested ASAP.3-ways are better left in your head as a fantasy. Always one happy girl and one not so happy. Just my. 02 from a half a dozen (and that's it!) 3-ways.

Lucky Nuts
10-10-16, 03:46
I arrived about 8 PM, got picked up at the airport by a very nice tour planner. Many thanks to BillyBob3000 and TripPlanner16 for the tip. Tonight I spent the early evening settling in and RTFF. I'm staying at Veneto, so I did a little tour of the casino and checked out the talent down there. It was better than I expected from what I had read here. There are some very fine women hanging out in the casino.

I mostly wanted to get the lay of the land so I walked down to Habanos. It was farther than I thought. I have bad ankles so I wouldn't do it again. I did see some very fine looking street girls along the walk though. I was pretty tempted but wanted to get to Habanos because I had read so much about it. Habanos was packed and there are indeed many many fine girls there. Definitely more of a selection than Veneto, but I wouldn't have had much trouble finding prime women at either place. At Habanos I met a cute and bubbly Colombian from Cali named Erica who I decided to take back to the room. We had a couple drinks and she introduced me to her friend Andrea. I've been wanting to do a threesome for a while so I took them both home.

We got a cab outside of Habanos and I didn't ask how much before we got in. Big mistake. When we got to the hotel the guy wanted $20 for the three block cab ride from Habanos. I told him no way and argued for a while and then ended up giving him $10 to get rid of him.

In the room, the girls were nice enough, but not exactly GFE. Pretty pro really. They wouldn't let me use the same cover in both of them so I had to swap when I switched girls, which was a real bummer. Is that common? It was a little too pro for me. I wouldn't repeat with them. I'm going to try more of a non-pro tomorrow night.I pulled a couple from Venezuela a couple months ago and didn't need to change condoms. But these two appeared to be very friendly with each other which is why I took a pair. I've only done that a couple times in my life.

HarvestBoi
10-10-16, 04:11
That's been my experience too. Rare you can find a pair that are equally hot and equally into it. The fantasy is so strong I keep trying anyways tho


3-ways are better left in your head as a fantasy. Always one happy girl and one not so happy. Just my. 02 from a half a dozen (and that's it!) 3-ways..

Treading Water
10-10-16, 06:12
Today was spent mostly touring Panama City. My guide took me to some great places. The old city (Casco Viejo), Isla Flamenco, and the Canal locks. We saw a ship pass through the canal which was pretty interesting. We had plans for me to meet up with a non pro in the evening but she bailed out. By then I was pretty burned out from the long day so I decided not to schedule an alternate right away. I took a break and watched the baseball game, then went to the casino to see what I could find.

After shooing away a few I was approached by a very cute blonde Cubana named Anna. Her English is excellent. We negotiated a bit, settled on $, and went up to the room. I would rate her about a 7 as a total score. She was a little on the pro side, did a little upselling but gave up quickly went I wasn't having it. Started out oral, moved a little too quickly to RCG, then CG, then Mish, and finished doggie. Just OK but I love the convenience of being able to take an elevator down a few floors, pick up a girl, and be back in the room in a matter of minutes. I would say tonight I was in the casino less than 20 minutes.

Lucky Nuts
10-15-16, 05:19
Today was spent mostly touring Panama City. My guide took me to some great places. The old city (Casco Viejo), Isla Flamenco, and the Canal locks. We saw a ship pass through the canal which was pretty interesting. We had plans for me to meet up with a non pro in the evening but she bailed out. By then I was pretty burned out from the long day so I decided not to schedule an alternate right away. I took a break and watched the baseball game, then went to the casino to see what I could find.

After shooing away a few I was approached by a very cute blonde Cubana named Anna. Her English is excellent. We negotiated a bit, settled on $, and went up to the room. I would rate her about a 7 as a total score. She was a little on the pro side, did a little upselling but gave up quickly went I wasn't having it. Started out oral, moved a little too quickly to RCG, then CG, then Mish, and finished doggie. Just OK but I love the convenience of being able to take an elevator down a few floors, pick up a girl, and be back in the room in a matter of minutes. I would say tonight I was in the casino less than 20 minutes.I'll bet you're talking about AnnaBelle. But I didn't know she spoke english. Yeah I'd say a 7 exactly. The thing I love about Panama is that convenience. Find one and take her then go back later and find another. All at my own pace. Where else can I enjoy the hobby like this?

Will Stewart
10-17-16, 12:16
Are Sundays dead in Panama?

Flying in for a couple of days, Sunday / Monday, and I'm staying at the Hilton (booked before I read a bit on these forums but it suits me this time around).

Wouldn't mind some fun if there's anything going or is it really just Fri / Sat when all the action takes place?

Treading Water
10-17-16, 15:39
I scheduled my return to the US for another night at the Veneto. I was a little dick-weary from the week but figured I had one more girl in me. After reading the reviews, I seriously considered the Golden Touch option. I love lineups but it sounds like the girls are pretty mechanical so I decided to skip it. I spent most of the early evening at be-Dubs and Hooters watching the baseball game. Then walked over to Habanos to see if there was anything there I couldn't pass up. The answer was almost yes. I saw one girl there that was too stunning to pass and she even gave me the "chhh-chhh" and come hither look. After pondering the hassle of the taxi ride back to Veneto (I had a bad experience last time, see earlier report) I decided I could probably do well enough at Veneto.

Being a Saturday night, there were lots of great looking girls at Veneto. I bought a beer, circled the casino floor a bit, and hit up a petit Panamanian girl named Eliana. We negotiated hard, I tried too get. 6 but she held out for. 8. In the room she was pretty good. Not really rushed at all, long time on CBJ, multiple positions. I have a hard time finishing when I tengo demasiado cerveza, usually have to pound a while in doggie. She actually got me off in mish. Good timing. I've been with many girls this week and its surprising at how many pros suck at timing. Eliana was good.

Afterwards she offered to massage me with the extra time. That was nice, usually they are in a hurry to get back on the floor. She gave me a nice massage which was a treat after a week of diving.

Treading Water
10-17-16, 15:44
Are Sundays dead in Panama?

Flying in for a couple of days, Sunday / Monday, and I'm staying at the Hilton (booked before I read a bit on these forums but it suits me this time around).

Wouldn't mind some fun if there's anything going or is it really just Fri / Sat when all the action takes place?I was there about a week ago Sunday. I stayed at the Veneto and went to Habanos. Plenty of good options both places on Sunday. Even mid-day Sunday there were nice options at the Veneto casino. That evening I walked from Veneto to Habanos and saw some really nice looking street girls on the main drag you have to cross on the way.

Hilton you will probably want to go to Habanos. I think you can walk both ways. Avoid the cabbies, or at least negotiate the return fare first. The cabbies in front of habanos are not to be trusted. I had a guy try to charge me $20 for the 1 mile ride back to Veneto.

Lee
10-17-16, 17:07
Are Sundays dead in Panama?

Flying in for a couple of days, Sunday / Monday, and I'm staying at the Hilton (booked before I read a bit on these forums but it suits me this time around).

Wouldn't mind some fun if there's anything going or is it really just Fri / Sat when all the action takes place?Take a taxi to Habano's or the Veneto after 8:00 PM. Thing peak about 10:30 PM. May not find the girl of your dreams but you will find one worth taking home.

Lee.

TripAdvisor16
10-21-16, 18:09
Guys,

I have a question. Looking for an alternative to Panama in Early December. This are my options. Help me choose between: Holguin (Cuba) , Santa Clara (Cuba) , Panama. Any places similar to Habanos in these two places? How does cost and availability compare?

YippieKayay
10-22-16, 22:39
Guys,

I have a question. Looking for an alternative to Panama in Early December. This are my options. Help me choose between: Holguin (Cuba) , Santa Clara (Cuba) , Panama. Any places similar to Habanos in these two places? How does cost and availability compare?I haven't been to Holguin or Santa Clara. I have been to Havana and stayed in Guanabo (in 2014) which is right next to Havana. I stayed in a resort that was mostly 3 star with local cubans going there. My observations:

* It's nothing like Panama City. Bring cash because ATM machines or using a credit card is a pain.

* They have two currencies, the tourist one is monopoly money that everyone uses but can only be bought in Cuba.

* There's no Habanos, or open brothels like you get in Panama; prostitution is not legal.

* You will find unemployed locals who will try to hook you up. They are called Jinteros or jinteras. At the resort a jintero approached me and asked if I liked any of the ladies at the resort. I mentioned the one I was keeping an eye on and he hooked me up. She was with family and they left the next day, but she came back. Registering her wasn't an issue.

* She stayed with me that week and it was a really weird experience. I only paid her $60 and didn't have to negotiate. She asked for $20 a day. It's dirt cheap mongering.

* Her aunt and nephews came by one night to eat at the resort on my expense, for example, but it was dirt cheap. Like $10 a person at the buffet. They snuck out food with them after they were done.

* A friend I made there, from the US, went with me into Havana, and he was cat called by women. They'll try to get your attention and go somewhere the cops won't see them. Then they'll want to hook up (either wife up or short-time).

* Pro-tip: bring stuff people will want. Duct tape for the local handymen, pantyhose for the women, extra toothpaste. You name it. Most Cubans are pretty poor.

I've read the Cuba threads here and it looks like the Holguin scene is alive in cafes and clubs, but don't expect anything like Habanos in terms of openness. Be prepared to sneak around cops if the girl is worried she'll get stopped and questioned.

Overall though Cuba is pretty safe, and the locals are really nice. You won't have any safety issues unless you really look for trouble.

Trifecta68
10-28-16, 22:44
My third trip to PTY was memorable. I've been reading this sight for years but finally signed up. After waiting 90'minutes in customs, I picked up my bags and went upstairs to flag a cab. $25 dollars and 1 hour later I arrived at Hyatt Place while the breakfast buffet was still being served. Not the best but it comes with the room. After reading several posts, I requested an upper floor (16) toward the backside where you don't here much of the construction noise going on across the street. After a quick workout and swim on the pool roof (great skyline view), I ventured to the mall and had a late lunch at the Red Lion. Being alone the attractive wait staff was friendly but cautious. The triple the's were in full effect unfortunately very little English is spoken there.

Night 1 walked over to Habanos around 8:30 pm. Had a Cuban cigar and watch the talent roll in. Near 9 pm the police showed up and began asking girls for ID. The place began to thin out as I had not even finished my Cohiba yet. My table was by the street as I saw a tall, dark skinned beauty hesitate getting out of the cab. The flashing lights of the police cars caused a scene. Hoping not lose my opportunity, I got up quickly and approached her cab. She was a stunning Venezuelan who spoke good English and was a solid 9. I asked if she was up for a drink at my place. Her tongue across her red lips gave me all the fuel needed. Two minutes were back checking in at Hyatt Place. No problem. Just a copy of her passport and she's up in my suite. A full compliment of services for $120 for 90 minutes. She was pushy up front about payment. I told her half up front and the rest upon completion. Maria had the Venezuelan banging body but not quite the GF experience I was hoping for. She left her number. I would not use it again. To many other smoking beauties running around the city.

Night 2- After a day of sight seeing off one of the islands (Departed from Trump) Returned cleaned up and was back at Habanos by 9 pm. No police this time and this Saturday night had them packed in. At least 50-60 starlets from Colombia, Cuba, DR, Venezuela and Panama were all hot!! The weather was hot too so I'm grabbed a young Panamanian chick and went to the upstairs bar at Habanos to cool off and unwind. The AC upstairs is amazing plus it's not too loud. The 19 year old was begging to leave but I had my eyes on other beauties still rolling in. After an hour upstairs cooling off and dancing with her I quietly ditched her and went back downstairs. Habanos was full tilt on this Saturday night. I approached the bar to order a Captain and Coke when a thin, well dressed Colombian (Lilly) introduced herself. She commented how she loved the color of my teal Nike golf shirt. I countered it was hers after we finished our drink. We both took the bait and left. Made the walk back up the Hill.

To the Hyatt Place. She had on 3 inch heals. Wow it took longer than I thought but it was worth the wait. Lilly was a student and want to be flight attendant. She gave my the full GF treatment. She stayed 3 hours cuddling, kissing.

And watching some porn. She promised to return the following night with a surprise. She left with my Nike Shirt and $100.

Night 3- very worn out from the last 2 nights. Stayed mostly around the Hyatt, did Hooters for lunch (some great talent and picked up a number) and played cards at Veneto. Sunday's in Panama are pretty quiet. I wasn't sure if Lilly would return with my surprise. I got back to Hyatt and called her. I wasn't even sure the number she left would work. I called and it did. We planned and she arrived on time as she promised promptly at 10:30.

I see her get out of the cab and she looked awesome. Then her friend. Wow!! Her friend was a pure 10. Thick thighs, ripped abs, blonde hair and a set of nice bolt ONS and very friendly and talkative. Lilly introduced me to her. , sister!! I was floored. I saw the resemblance but one was dark haired and the other blonde. We made small talk outside and I decided before heading upstairs that a few shots were in order. We walked over to Habanos it was pretty dead being a Sunday night. Half hour later and a few shots and beers the three of us were back in my suite. The sisters gave me the full treatment. Taking turns massaging, kissing and everything else a 20 and 21 year old Bogota beauty would do. It was an expensive evening and I broke a cardinal rule. Doing the same chick (Lilly) two nights in a row. The GF experience and family bonding was too much to pass up. I keep in touch with both and look forward to my next trip down to PTY.

If you've never been to PTY, Habanos or Veneto everything you read in these posts is 100%. Forget Asia, Colombia, Caribbean it's all in Panama. Dollar is king, great food and beautiful Latinas from all over Central & South America.

LuvPanamaBabes
10-29-16, 05:03
My third trip to PTY was memorable. I've been reading this sight for years but finally signed up. After waiting 90'minutes in customs, I picked up my bags and went upstairs to flag a cab. $25 dollars and 1 hour later I arrived at Hyatt Place while the breakfast buffet was still being served. Not the best but it comes with the room. After reading several posts, I requested an upper floor (16) toward the backside where you don't here much of the construction noise going on across the street. After a quick workout and swim on the pool roof (great skyline view), I ventured to the mall and had a late lunch at the Red Lion. Being alone the attractive wait staff was friendly but cautious. The triple the's were in full effect unfortunately very little English is spoken there.

Night 1 walked over to Habanos around 8:30 pm. Had a Cuban cigar and watch the talent roll in. Near 9 pm the police showed up and began asking girls for ID. The place began to thin out as I had not even finished my Cohiba yet. My table was by the street as I saw a tall, dark skinned beauty hesitate getting out of the cab. The flashing lights of the police cars caused a scene. Hoping not lose my opportunity, I got up quickly and approached her cab. She was a stunning Venezuelan who spoke good English and was a solid 9. I asked if she was up for a drink at my place. Her tongue across her red lips gave me all the fuel needed. Two minutes were back checking in at Hyatt Place. No problem. Just a copy of her passport and she's up in my suite. A full compliment of services for $120 for 90 minutes. She was pushy up front about payment..I'll be there in middle of November, what was the amount paid for Lilly and her sister?

Thanks a lot!

TellAll
10-29-16, 11:19
My third trip to PTY was memorable. I've been reading this sight for years but finally signed up. After waiting 90'minutes in customs, I picked up my bags and went upstairs to flag a cab. $25 dollars and 1 hour later I arrived at Hyatt Place while the breakfast buffet was still being served. Not the best but it comes with the room. After reading several posts, I requested an upper floor (16) toward the backside where you don't here much of the construction noise going on across the street. After a quick workout and swim on the pool roof (great skyline view), I ventured to the mall and had a late lunch at the Red Lion. Being alone the attractive wait staff was friendly but cautious. The triple the's were in full effect unfortunately very little English is spoken there.

Night 1 walked over to Habanos around 8:30 pm. Had a Cuban cigar and watch the talent roll in. Near 9 pm the police showed up and began asking girls for ID. The place began to thin out as I had not even finished my Cohiba yet. My table was by the street as I saw a tall, dark skinned beauty hesitate getting out of the cab. The flashing lights of the police cars caused a scene. Hoping not lose my opportunity, I got up quickly and approached her cab. She was a stunning Venezuelan who spoke good English and was a solid 9. I asked if she was up for a drink at my place. Her tongue across her red lips gave me all the fuel needed. Two minutes were back checking in at Hyatt Place. No problem. Just a copy of her passport and she's up in my suite. A full compliment of services for $120 for 90 minutes. She was pushy up front about payment. I told her half up front and the rest upon completion. Maria had the Venezuelan banging body but not quite the GF experience I was hoping for. She left her number. I would not use it again. To many other smoking beauties running around the city.

Night 2- After a day of sight seeing off one of the islands (Departed from Trump) Returned cleaned up and was back at Habanos by 9 pm. No police this time and this Saturday night had them packed in. At least 50-60 starlets from Colombia, Cuba, DR, Venezuela and Panama were all hot!! The weather was hot too so I'm grabbed a young Panamanian chick and went to the upstairs bar at Habanos to cool off and unwind. The AC upstairs is amazing plus it's not too loud. The 19 year old was begging to leave but I had my eyes on other beauties still rolling in. After an hour upstairs cooling off and dancing with her I quietly ditched her and went back downstairs. Habanos was full tilt on this Saturday night. I approached the bar to order a Captain and Coke when a thin, well dressed Colombian (Lilly) introduced herself. She commented how she loved the color of my teal Nike golf shirt. I countered it was hers after we finished our drink. We both took the bait and left. Made the walk back up the Hill.

To the Hyatt Place. She had on 3 inch heals. Wow it took longer than I thought but it was worth the wait. Lilly was a student and want to be flight attendant. She gave my the full GF treatment. She stayed 3 hours cuddling, kissing.

And watching some porn. She promised to return the following night with a surprise. She left with my Nike Shirt and $100.

Night 3- very worn out from the last 2 nights. Stayed mostly around the Hyatt, did Hooters for lunch (some great talent and picked up a number) and played cards at Veneto. Sunday's in Panama are pretty quiet. I wasn't sure if Lilly would return with my surprise. I got back to Hyatt and called her. I wasn't even sure the number she left would work. I called and it did. We planned and she arrived on time as she promised promptly at 10:30.

I see her get out of the cab and she looked awesome. Then her friend. Wow!! Her friend was a pure 10. Thick thighs, ripped abs, blonde hair and a set of nice bolt ONS and very friendly and talkative. Lilly introduced me to her. , sister!! I was floored. I saw the resemblance but one was dark haired and the other blonde. We made small talk outside and I decided before heading upstairs that a few shots were in order. We walked over to Habanos it was pretty dead being a Sunday night. Half hour later and a few shots and beers the three of us were back in my suite. The sisters gave me the full treatment. Taking turns massaging, kissing and everything else a 20 and 21 year old Bogota beauty would do. It was an expensive evening and I broke a cardinal rule. Doing the same chick (Lilly) two nights in a row. The GF experience and family bonding was too much to pass up. I keep in touch with both and look forward to my next trip down to PTY.

If you've never been to PTY, Habanos or Veneto everything you read in these posts is 100%. Forget Asia, Colombia, Caribbean it's all in Panama. Dollar is king, great food and beautiful Latinas from all over Central & South America.I have had fun in Panama also. But to say forget Asia and Colombia, that's going a bit to far. At least you didn't say forget Brazil also. So there is still hope.

HarvestBoi
10-29-16, 17:48
Making my first trip to PTY after having done Medellin, Lima and Europe. I've being reading the forum for awhile and Panama seems nice, convenient and stress free.

Does anyone have an opinion about being there during thanksgiving week? I'd think it would be a good as the chicas are looking to maximize bank before going home for Christmas but thought I'd ask.

Also is there a recommended love motel near Habanos? My preferred MO is to test drive a few chicas for an hour or so then look for LT set up later in the week. Usually means kissing a few frogettes and I'd just as soon not let the one's I turn away know where I'm staying. Thanks in advance.

Trifecta68
10-29-16, 18:23
I'll be there in middle of November, what was the amount paid for Lilly and her sister?

Thanks a lot!Shots and beers at Habanos $65.

2 world Class Bogata Beauties $300 (2.5 hours).

Experience. Priceless.

Trifecta68
10-29-16, 18:33
I have had fun in Panama also. But to say forget Asia and Colombia, that's going a bit to far. At least you didn't say forget Brazil also. So there is still hope.I've been to Hong Kong, Macau, Vietnam, Manilla, Tokyo, San Jose, DR but not Brazil YET. PTY has easy access from US.

Via Copa & AA. Just my opinion it's hard to beat. Just 3 locations (Habanos, Veneto and Club Ashe) are all you need to navigate for meeting world class looking trophys.

YippieKayay
10-29-16, 19:59
Making my first trip to PTY after having done Medellin, Lima and Europe. I've being reading the forum for awhile and Panama seems nice, convenient and stress free.
Does anyone have an opinion about being there during thanksgiving week? I'd think it would be a good as the chicas are looking to maximize bank before going home for Christmas but thought I'd ask.
It starts thinning out as Christmas draws closer but I've been told in a PM that November is fine.



Also is there a recommended love motel near Habanos? My preferred MO is to test drive a few chicas for an hour or so then look for LT set up later in the week. Usually means kissing a few frogettes and I'd just as soon not let the one's I turn away know where I'm staying. Thanks in advance.Just book the Hyatt. It's 5 minutes away by foot and you can bring all the girls you want back to your room all night.

Trifecta68
10-30-16, 17:49
Making my first trip to PTY after having done Medellin, Lima and Europe. I've being reading the forum for awhile and Panama seems nice, convenient and stress free.

Does anyone have an opinion about being there during thanksgiving week? I'd think it would be a good as the chicas are looking to maximize bank before going home for Christmas but thought I'd ask.

Also is there a recommended love motel near Habanos? My preferred MO is to test drive a few chicas for an hour or so then look for LT set up later in the week. Usually means kissing a few frogettes and I'd just as soon not let the one's I turn away know where I'm staying. Thanks in advance.As an American holiday there is no problem with a lack of Chicas in Panama. Your correct stating the Christmas effect.

Most of the women would love to return to their home countries with a purse full of $50 & $100 bills.

There is a love motel right next to the small cigar bar adjacent to Habanos.

Down the street from Veneto you can also try Hotel Milan. Not so much a quickie stop but a nice property. No fees, clean, good restaurant and a 1 minute walk from Veneto.

DarkSide99
10-31-16, 09:27
Has anyone had success booking a condo in PTY through airbnb or through somewhere else that is chica friendly? I need a condo with 2 or 3 bedrooms for 2 weeks in February.

TripAdvisor16
10-31-16, 15:12
My third trip to PTY was memorable. I've been reading this sight for years but finally signed up. After waiting 90'minutes in customs, I picked up my bags and went upstairs to flag a cab. $25 dollars and 1 hour later I arrived at Hyatt Place while the breakfast buffet was still being served. Not the best but it comes with the room. After reading several posts, I requested an upper floor (16) toward the backside where you don't here much of the construction noise going on across the street. After a quick workout and swim on the pool roof (great skyline view), I ventured to the mall and had a late lunch at the Red Lion. Being alone the attractive wait staff was friendly but cautious. The triple the's were in full effect unfortunately very little English is spoken there.

Night 1 walked over to Habanos around 8:30 pm. Had a Cuban cigar and watch the talent roll in. Near 9 pm the police showed up and began asking girls for ID. The place began to thin out as I had not even finished my Cohiba yet. My table was by the street as I saw a tall, dark skinned beauty hesitate getting out of the cab. The flashing lights of the police cars caused a scene. Hoping not lose my opportunity, I got up quickly and approached her cab. She was a stunning Venezuelan who spoke good English and was a solid 9. I asked if she was up for a drink at my place. Her tongue across her red lips gave me all the fuel needed. Two minutes were back checking in at Hyatt Place. No problem. Just a copy of her passport and she's up in my suite. A full compliment of services for $120 for 90 minutes. She was pushy up front about payment. I told her half up front and the rest upon completion. Maria had the Venezuelan banging body but not quite the GF experience I was hoping for. She left her number. I would not use it again...Great write up!! Willing to share or refer these chicas?

YippieKayay
10-31-16, 15:28
Has anyone had success booking a condo in PTY through airbnb or through somewhere else that is chica friendly? I need a condo with 2 or 3 bedrooms for 2 weeks in February.Ask the airbnb host if they allow dates to stay over night. As long as your profile doesn't have your wife's photo in it, you're not asking for anything out of the ordinary.

I did rent an apartment in Panama through airbnb but I had the chica already registered since I was going to fuck her for a week straight :)

Gagoo
11-08-16, 09:53
Ask the airbnb host if they allow dates to stay over night. As long as your profile doesn't have your wife's photo in it, you're not asking for anything out of the ordinary.

I did rent an apartment in Panama through airbnb but I had the chica already registered since I was going to fuck her for a week straight :)You got to really read he descriptions, some say no prostitution, but I still brought girls in. But, I avoid places that say no prostitution. Just this year alone I did AIRBNB in Panama, Colombia many times, Curacao, Suriname, Brazil in about 5 or 6 cities, Paraguay, Uruguay, Argentina, Chile, Bolivia, Cusco Peru, Lima Peru, Quito Ecuador, and I'll add a few more before going back to the US for Christmas. I actually did a few Airbnb rentals in Europe this year, but I was with the same girl for 3 weeks. And I did about 5 or 6 Airbnb in other countries last year. I started getting invites to Airbnb events in LOS Angeles a few months ago. Now I'm trying to over do the Airbnb rentals as a bragging right. I actually want an Airbnb in Panama for the 15th of Nov for about 4 or 5 nights, but there are only about half as many listings as there was the last time I was there, I think in July.

I didn't try to take girls back to my places in all of them, because in some countries you mostly fuck the girls where they work. But many of the places I didn't take a girl to my Airbnb there was zero security. You go to you place and open the door and that is it.

When you look at Airbnb look under the amenities and if it had doorman or 24 security, then you have to be more careful with that one. In Medellin I only stay at places with no doorman or security.

Sargent 50
11-09-16, 02:40
I am headed there in a few days for the third trip in a little over a year. I have done just about every touristy thing from the canal and monkey island to biking the causeway, the metro, the mall, etc. I was curious if there were any good spots for daytime mongering? I have rtff and it seems maybe Red Lion. I'm not too enthusiastic about the MPs.

Are there places to maybe pick up semi-pro or locals during the day? Maybe if my housekeeper is hot I will offer her a propina Any guidance is appreciated.

H1.I was wondering same thing.

HarvestBoi
11-09-16, 08:19
Was figuring I'd find something at habanos for the next day. Or LE palace?


I was wondering same thing.

TripAdvisor16
11-09-16, 15:08
Was figuring I'd find something at habanos for the next day. Or LE palace?Just save numbers from the night before and call them over during the day! Simple.

Lee
11-09-16, 18:01
Just save numbers from the night before and call them over during the day! Simple.Install WhatsApp on your phone and get some numbers. They're happy to come see you during the day. And you'll be surprised how much cheaper it is. What sap is the communication system most of them use.

Lee.

LuvPanamaBabes
11-10-16, 12:29
When I go to Buenos Aires, I've had amazing times at privados.

In my opinion the talent is very high, at great prices.

Last trip there found a gem, saw her 5 times, the price was amazing, only $25 for an hour!

Another place, this chic was the hottest one I ever did, she was with tip $60 for one fun-filled hour.

JoeBallard
11-14-16, 12:21
Planning to be in PTY from November 19th for about a week. Read multiple years of forum information to get myself educated. Will most likely be staying at the Hyatt. Haven't decided yet.

JayLay
11-14-16, 12:28
Took my first trip to Panama City recently and had a great time:

Night One.

Arrived in the early evening and took a stroll to Habanos. When I got there, hardly any guys but plenty of chicas. From experiences in FKK clubs in Germany I decided it would be best to avoid the ones opening me, and instead call a few girls over and conduct some interviews. I grabbed a table in the middle of the action and immediately was approached by an aggressive paisa asking me to buy her drinks. No thanks. The first girl I called over was thin with curves on all the right places, so negotiated $100 flat and walked back to the hotel. Once under the light of the hotel I realized that it was quite dark in Habanos and her face just wasn't doing it for me. Took her back to the room anyways, and couldn't finish. The bolt-ONS, and her face, just wasn't cutting it. She was a nice girl though, and although we didn't negotiate BBBJ, she was easily convinced to give me one for no extra plata.

Night Two.

Determined to find a beauty I went back and this time took more time to pick. The same paisa from the previous night comes up to me asking for drinks again, but this time just orders from the waiter when he passes my table. When dude comes back I tell him I didn't agree to buy her a drink. He just shook his head and walks off with the drink like that isht happens all the time. Anyways, next I call over an amazingly gorgeous blonde Colombian with a perfect face and body. As expected for a girl that hot, she wasn't really down for much extra. As hot as she was, I pick service over beauty so I asked her to kick rocks. A couple girls later and this average looking Peruvian girl speaking perfect English opens me asking for a light. I wasn't digging her body-wise at the moment, but her English was perfect so I ended up just talking to her for a bit, and she wasn't trying that hard to sell me. Some time goes by and she says I might have better luck at Club Ashe and she'd help me pick girls, or at least be amusing company. I hadn't been there before so we both take a cab. Once at Ashe I noticed many girls from Habanos ending up there later in the night. Peruvian told me the girls like it better at Ashe because of the music / dancing. Long story short, I was vibing with Peruvian so I thought it might be fun to hang out back at the hotel. At the very least I would enjoy a BJ and the company (she really was a cool chick). Turns out she was wearing some very unflattering clothing, once naked she had the most perfect natural body I've seen in a while. Thin with large perky see-cups, and no fat anywhere on her stomach. Turned out to be an awesome experience, and since we enjoyed each others company, there wasn't any clock watching involved or upselling.

Night 3.

Moved to an AirBnB right by the water. I was a little put-off by the security at the front, though I'm sure he didn't care about chicas coming up, only registering with the desk. I kept in touch with Peruvian, but as it happened I matched with a tall, model looking 19 year old on tinder. Cutting to the chase, it was pretty easy to just invite her to the rooftop pool at the AirBnB, and free teenager sex was more appealing at the moment than paid professionals. Night worked out great.

There's no shortage of talent in PTY, paid or otherwise, but the town is a little boring compared to other locations in central / south america. This could also be because it was raining when I visited however. I'll definitely come back, and three nights seemed about right. Any longer and I'd want to explore the country more / GTFO of the capital.

Gringucho
11-15-16, 03:40
Took my first trip to Panama City recently and had a great time:

Night One.

Arrived in the early evening and took a stroll to Habanos. When I got there, hardly any guys but plenty of chicas. From experiences in FKK clubs in Germany I decided it would be best to avoid the ones opening me, and instead call a few girls over and conduct some interviews. I grabbed a table in the middle of the action and immediately was approached by an aggressive paisa asking me to buy her drinks. No thanks. The first girl I called over was thin with curves on all the right places, so negotiated $100 flat and walked back to the hotel. Once under the light of the hotel I realized that it was quite dark in Habanos and her face just wasn't doing it for me. Took her back to the room anyways, and couldn't finish. The bolt-ONS, and her face, just wasn't cutting it. She was a nice girl though, and although we didn't negotiate BBBJ, she was easily convinced to give me one for no extra plata.

Night Two..Did you stay at the Marriott? I'm curious because I've heard they are OK with guests and wondering why you moved to the Airbnb.

ViajeroGringo
11-18-16, 13:32
Did you stay at the Marriott? I'm curious because I've heard they are OK with guests and wondering why you moved to the Airbnb.I'm checking out today after five days at Marriott, and it is very welcoming. When you come in with your friend, go to the bell captain where he will ask your room number and copy her passport. That's it. Up you go.

First night I had colleagues here so walked up to Venato and meet Lucia, a tiny Madura Colombiana. She suggested Hotel Arcos so $5 cab and $15 room with free porn. I recommend if your not comfortable with your own place. Also recommend Lucia. Well worth $.

Last two nights went straight to Habanos. Brought back Victoria Wednesday and Jennifer last night. Victoria was good at $+20, but Jennifer was amazing GFE for $+30. Both are a little older than many at 27, but have amazing smiles and really good chemistry. To me, that's s more important than model like looks without a smile. Wish I was staying another night to take Jennifer to dinner. Oh well. Onto Lima in Three weeks.

Gagoo
11-19-16, 10:08
This is my 4th and last night here. I spent the 1st night with someone I know very, very well.

Sadly the next two nights I didn't chase girls. I am a little burned out, and I was having plenty of good sex in Medellin for less than half the price. And I'll be trying the same in Costa Rica tomorrow.

I did have a look in Habanos on my first night before seeing my long time lady friend. I'd have to say Habanos was about what is has been about what is usually is. This is about the 6-8th time I've been here.

Tonight I see my long time lady friend ad Habanos, but we knew we where not going to my hotel together. She introduced me to her friend, but I was not really interested in her. The girls were quite aggressive tonight. But it was 2:15 AM after Friday night. I turned down many girls until I seen one that I could not play dumb and ignore like the others. She's one of those ladies that will give you a boner if she gets too close to you. I'm sure I must have been at least her 2nd or 3rd guy today. I was expecting her to at least start at $150. But she said $100. I was actually a little surprised by her first offer, so she had me sold.

She is 22 YO from Medellin, not so rare around here. There were many hot ladies in Habanos, but as you know many have fake body parts. This girl was quite sexy and all natural. She even has natural green eyes. I asked her many times about her eyes and I had a good look in the hotel. She really does have natural green eyes.

Honestly her service was only standard, and with the lots of lube she liked to use it felt like I was definitely not her first customer of the night. But she is so good looking that you really just need her naked on you bed and the rest will cum. She did refuse BBBJ, and only gave me light kissing. She was really friendly though. She did ask for taxi so I gave her $10 extra. Overall it was worth it because of her very good looks. A few pics included. She does use some sort of push bra that makes her tits look much bigger than they are, but they looked very good when she was naked.

Gagoo
11-19-16, 10:26
We all know Hyatt is girl friendly. I had no problems getting ladies in, the front desk only makes a copy of their passport or ID. Walking to Habanos only takes 5 minutes max. You could walk to Veneto in maybe 6 minutes. Ashe would probably take 7 minutes.

On my first day I stayed at Tower House Suites, but it was booked for the rest of my time here. They also definitely have no problems with bringing ladies. I seen may other guys bringing ladies to the Tower House and the Hyatt.

The Marriott is well know to be girl friendly also. But I try to stay at lower price places myself.

A place worth trying might be the Executive Hotel. It is only about 3 minutes walking to Habanos. I asked the security guy if it was OK to bring ladies to the room. He made it very clear that there are zero problems bringing a lady in to the hotel. He actually told this to me two times and asked me if I wanted to ask for a room. I said maybe tomorrow. It's OK with security, but I didn't ask reception, so I can't say they will not try to charge you. I have to say the location of the Executive Hotel is excellent and the price is less than the Hyatt.

One girl kept wanting me to book the Sortis Hotel, Spa & Casino. She said they have no problems with ladies either. But their prices start a little high, but it looks like a nice place.

I had no problem in the past with Riande Grande, but the location is only so-so. Not too far from the Veneto.

I found only a shit hotel called Alcapulco. Online reviews have complaints of hookers in the hotel lobby or outside. But the area seems shady.

Will Stewart
11-20-16, 19:38
I was there on Sunday staying at the Hilton. Have to say, on arrival, there was this girl who I would have given 9.5/10 getting into the elevator by herself just before me. Unfortunately there were already an older couple in it and the doorman followed me with some luggage so didn't get the chance to say anything.

Found Veneto no problem and went in around 8:30 pm. Few girls randomly placed at some slot machines and some more near the bar. One blonde caught my eye for a second but as I had just come up the escalators, I wanted to check out the, not overly large, place first.

Didn't see her again after a loop. Nothing else grabbed my attention so left and wandered down to Habanos.

Found this place easily as well but it's so dark. From the street, I could barely see any of the women out on the balcony area so went back to my hotel in order to try both places after 10 pm.

Popped back to Veneto later and whilst walking up the street towards it, was grabbed by two not overly attractive hookers (near the shops on the same side of the street where there's a lower level and an upper level) who came out with "you want to fuck, $10 blow job" and wouldn't let go of me. One was trying to unbutton my trousers and dropping in the usual hooker comments "you're so big". Took about 5 minutes of repeatedly telling them no and trying to pull away before I managed to get free. Was more bothered about them being a tag team where one picks my pockets whilst the other distracts me. Luckily, my pockets were tight I kept moving about and staying aware. Wasn't 100% sure if they were both female either.

Anyway, wandered around the block and came into Veneto the other way. Few more women here but nothing that grabbed me. Went around the block again just to see if there was anything of interest and got a smile from this woman carrying some food? Who vanished into a hotel a couple of minutes later. She was stunning and exactly my type. Looked girl next door type. Not sure if she was available or what but do regret not saying Hola or something as I didn't want to find she was just someone out for food.

Maybe a dozen women in short tight dresses hanging around the entrance to the casino although none said anything.

So back to Habano and still too dark (reminds me of The Beach club in Kuala Lumpur). Quite a few people there but as I couldn't really see much, didn't venture in.

Did see a stunning, possibly Colombian, girl later. Thin, blonde hair. She walked past me without a single glance or acknowledgement. Did watch her for a minute to see if she glanced back but nothing.

Overall, there are some attractive women there especially around the banking area during the day.

I suppose when I go again, I need to be more forward. Nothing ventured, nothing gained.

Lucky Nuts
11-24-16, 07:11
I was there on Sunday staying at the Hilton. Have to say, on arrival, there was this girl who I would have given 9.5/10 getting into the elevator by herself just before me. Unfortunately there were already an older couple in it and the doorman followed me with some luggage so didn't get the chance to say anything.

Found Veneto no problem and went in around 8:30 pm. Few girls randomly placed at some slot machines and some more near the bar. One blonde caught my eye for a second but as I had just come up the escalators, I wanted to check out the, not overly large, place first.

Didn't see her again after a loop. Nothing else grabbed my attention so left and wandered down to Habanos.

Found this place easily as well but it's so dark. From the street, I could barely see any of the women out on the balcony area so went back to my hotel in order to try both places after 10 pm.

Popped back to Veneto later and whilst walking up the street towards it, was grabbed by two not overly attractive hookers (near the shops on the same side of the street where there's a lower level and an upper level) who came out with "you want to fuck, $10 blow job" and wouldn't let go of me. One was trying to unbutton my trousers and dropping in the usual hooker comments "you're so big". Took about 5 minutes of repeatedly telling them no and trying to pull away before I managed to get free. Was more bothered about them being a tag team where one picks my pockets whilst the other distracts me. Luckily, my pockets were tight I kept moving about and staying aware. Wasn't 100% sure if they were both female either.

Anyway, wandered around the block and came into Veneto the other way. Few more women here but nothing that grabbed me. Went around the block again just to see if there was anything of interest and got a smile from this woman carrying some food? Who vanished into a hotel a couple of minutes later. She was stunning and exactly my type. Looked girl next door type. Not sure if she was available or what but do regret not saying Hola or something as I didn't want to find she was just someone out for food.

Maybe a dozen women in short tight dresses hanging around the entrance to the casino although none said anything.

So back to Habano and still too dark (reminds me of The Beach club in Kuala Lumpur). Quite a few people there but as I couldn't really see much, didn't venture in.

Did see a stunning, possibly Colombian, girl later. Thin, blonde hair. She walked past me without a single glance or acknowledgement. Did watch her for a minute to see if she glanced back but nothing.

Overall, there are some attractive women there especially around the banking area during the day.

I suppose when I go again, I need to be more forward. Nothing ventured, nothing gained.RE: "I suppose when I go again, I need to be more forward. Nothing ventured, nothing gained. ".

Thanks for sharing your story Will Stewart. When you go back all you need to do is walk into Habanos. Don't worry about how dark it looks. Once you're inside you can see all the chicas perfectly fine. They will not aggressively grab at you like the streetwalkers outside Veneto. (BTW you need to act sorta mean and forceful to deal with a couple of those tough looking ladies.) Once you are inside Habanos and sipping a cold one all the chicas will be trying to make eye contact and wanting to talk with you. Half of them speak english too. Don't hesitate. Just go inside!

RE: "there are some attractive women there especially around the banking area during the day. " You're looking at the wrong chicas and at the wrong time of day. It's near impossible to find a working girl while the sun is shining in Panama City. The well dressed chicas in the banking area have normal decent paying jobs in all those fancy buildings around that area.

I see you travel the world. I'm just curious what is your favorite city for the hobby with your low key approach?

Will Stewart
11-24-16, 09:42
RE: "I suppose when I go again, I need to be more forward. Nothing ventured, nothing gained. ".

Thanks for sharing your story Will Stewart. When you go back all you need to do is walk into Habanos. Don't worry about how dark it looks. Once you're inside you can see all the chicas perfectly fine. They will not aggressively grab at you like the streetwalkers outside Veneto. (BTW you need to act sorta mean and forceful to deal with a couple of those tough looking ladies.) Once you are inside Habanos and sipping a cold one all the chicas will be trying to make eye contact and wanting to talk with you. Half of them speak english too. Don't hesitate. Just go inside!

RE: "there are some attractive women there especially around the banking area during the day. " You're looking at the wrong chicas and at the wrong time of day. It's near impossible to find a working girl while the sun is shining in Panama City. The well dressed chicas in the banking area have normal decent paying jobs in all those fancy buildings around that area.

I see you travel the world. I'm just curious what is your favorite city for the hobby with your low key approach?They don't have to be a working girl to get lucky with. Sometimes women on business trips etc. Can be quite approachable. Loads at airports and on planes for example and if you're travelling, it can be an excuse to chat.

Did wander around the mall at Albrook. Loads of women there although nothing that most would really define as high on the looks scale even in the shops you would normally associate with lookers. Well maybe one blonde girl working on a beauty type stand (may have been Russian?

No favorite city to be honest. Did like the Beach Club in Kuala Lumpur. Just like people had mentioned (candy shop) and whilst I did make a lot of rookie mistakes the first time I. E. Too early, indecisive, taxi out front etc. , it was interesting especially price wise compared to back home. Did like the fact I could spend all night with a girl for less than an hour elsewhere and whilst not fully the GFE experience I prefer, not as mechanical as some girls in Panama are said to be.

Been meaning to visit Thailand etc. For a while to see if that is like people say.

A lot of the time, I'm time restrained so don't have the opportunity to spend a few days getting to know a place. In transit at night, out early or working.

With Habanos, did feel a little self conscious wandering into the place as well. Same with bringing someone back to my hotel. Embarrasses me wandering in with a girl who could be half my age or just says "working girl" all over her. Sure, they are used to seeing this and probably think nothing of it, but it still makes me feel self-conscious.

Next time I'm in Panama, I'll try and get there on a Fri / Sat and stay in a hotel that is nearer and is girl friendly (was going to book a room at Veneto just for girl purposes as it was around $50-$60 for the night and that seemed cheap enough).

TellAll
11-24-16, 18:10
Next time I'm in Panama, I'll try and get there on a Fri / Sat and stay in a hotel that is nearer and is girl friendly (was going to book a room at Veneto just for girl purposes as it was around $50-$60 for the night and that seemed cheap enough).Veneto not cheap once you add the joiner fee.

Cool
11-25-16, 06:04
For those that dislike doormen Veneto may not be the spot. The security is heavy (8+ team) because it is a casino hotel. They guard the elevator to prevent you from sneaking in a lovely. Veneto also desensitize the key for some guests requiring you to intermittently check in with the front desk. (hassle). There are minor issues with housekeeping but the Hotel exceeded my expectations otherwise. Security has the power to throttle the number of freelancers. If punters aren't buying drinks they start turning girls away on slow nights. Monday had the best selection compared to Tues. Wed. And Thurs. But it fluctuates. Some areas of the hotel have a moldy smell. Elevator area in the lobby. A wiki.

Sex site says Oasis Massage next door may be closed. That is not true. 2 girls will stand outside and they are not my taste. Not sure if they have additional staff inside. For guys that like long time it is best to strike up a late night deal with a Veneto casino girl. Hopefully.

It will be cheaper than Habanos and definitely LE Palace. There are cheaper options in Europe than LE Palace. Panama is a Tier 1 destination. It holds it own to its neighbor to the north (CR). It does not beat Asia. If you go to the right spots you will think you are in a rap music video (eye candy). Of course COL is cheaper.

Cool
11-25-16, 07:57
Just got back from Miami club (El Dorado near Nikkos and Gold Fingers) Thursday at midnight. I was nervous the club would be defunct because no one has mentioned it for 4 yrs. It is still alive and kicking. 12 friendly dancers. An Asian cashier. There was roughly 4 patrons inside. There is a strip show every 20 minutes. I nursed a Coke ($3) for 30 minutes. I was quoted $115 for 1 HR. Ladies drinks are $15 and table dances are $30. I saw 3 somewhat cute dancers. Most chicks here haven't gone under the knife for plastic surgery. This place isn't for picky mongers but I felt it was worth the trip. I got lucky my cabbie waited outside for me, so I didn't have to find a cab in unfamiliar territory.

Lucky Nuts
11-26-16, 05:20
They don't have to be a working girl to get lucky with. Sometimes women on business trips etc. Can be quite approachable. Loads at airports and on planes for example and if you're travelling, it can be an excuse to chat.

Did wander around the mall at Albrook. Loads of women there although nothing that most would really define as high on the looks scale even in the shops you would normally associate with lookers. Well maybe one blonde girl working on a beauty type stand (may have been Russian?

No favorite city to be honest. Did like the Beach Club in Kuala Lumpur. Just like people had mentioned (candy shop) and whilst I did make a lot of rookie mistakes the first time I. E. Too early, indecisive, taxi out front etc. , it was interesting especially price wise compared to back home. Did like the fact I could spend all night with a girl for less than an hour elsewhere and whilst not fully the GFE experience I prefer, not as mechanical as some girls in Panama are said to be.

Been meaning to visit Thailand etc. For a while to see if that is like people say.

A lot of the time, I'm time restrained so don't have the opportunity to spend a few days getting to know a place. In transit at night, out early or working.

With Habanos, did feel a little self conscious wandering into the place as well. Same with bringing someone back to my hotel. Embarrasses me wandering in with a girl who could be half my age or just says "working girl" all over her. Sure, they are used to seeing this and probably think nothing of it, but it still makes me feel self-conscious.

Next time I'm in Panama, I'll try and get there on a Fri / Sat and stay in a hotel that is nearer and is girl friendly (was going to book a room at Veneto just for girl purposes as it was around $50-$60 for the night and that seemed cheap enough).Hey WillStewart. You ought to pay the small cost to join here to receive PMs with helpful info. But I'll post this one publicly. Sorry to bore everyone else who know all this well. Do NOT rent a room at Veneto for chicas. They require you to pay a crazy expensive fee to bring chicas into the elevator. Instead stay at Hyatt Place. It's VERY chica friendly, no fees and no embarrassment regardless of the age difference between you and your new friend. BTW in Panama Friday and Saturday are not as good as Monday and Tuesday unless you meant those are days you have more time.

Thanks for the idea of at least trying regular chicas during the daylight hours. I need to do more of this. I met a solid 9 working in a jewelry store at Albrook Mall who told me she left Venezuela because it's so bad there now. I should have at least tried to set up a drink after work with her and I never gave it a thought. Probably would have gotten a NO but at least I wouldn't still be thinking about it LOL.

I've been to KL but never to the Beach Club. Is it in the golden triangle / bukit bintang area? Maybe will be back there this winter and check it out.

I'll be back in Thailand this winter. It's easy to find ladies to have sex. But it's hard to find ladies as hot as the latinas in panama and Colombia. Maybe that's just my preference for a certain type of look. Anyhow yeah it's wide open in Thailand.

Buy yourself PM privileges with a membership here. This helps to answer your questions and also to meet up with other guys traveling same time and place as you.

Cool
11-26-16, 07:30
Elite has the $20 cover /2 drink deal and $30 open bar. I opted for the cheaper option because I had no idea what was behind the doors and I'm not a heavy drinker hitting the sauce until 4 am. My experience was altered by 15 sailors out to have a good time. I can't follow them because Uncle Sam covers their rent. Elite chicas are a little mature with surgery. There were 2-3 cuties out of the dozen girls. A couple looked masculine but did not have muscular physiques. Bottom line: Guys that are smart with their money would prefer Habanos lineup and lack of cover charge.

Asche is a block away. You can look at half of the lineup for free on the patio. It costs $10 for the cover charge to enter the club and see the rest of the ladies, and water is $5. Asche has a better lineup but I wouldn't be burning $10 for entry in the future. The sailors told me there are civilian clubs nearby that are good for guys that have some command of the Spanish language.

Cheema
11-26-16, 17:50
I visited Panama city as part of my Central American tour, I contacted a girl before visiting panama, I got her number from a member on this forum, contacted her on whatsapp and planned my tour with girls etc.

Day 1.

She picked me from airport and handed me sim card, and leave me at my hotel Hyatt place. I had appointment with a Colombian girl at her place in afternoon, reached her place by uber, she was OK, but no GFE, no BBJ, paid her 125 usd for 2 shots, At night I had a dinner date with a girl she arranged, but she was nothing like her photo, had a dinner at an Arabic restaurant and than sex, she did offer BBJ and DFK but she was not pretty, paid her 125 usd for 2 shots.

DAY 2.

I met with a girl Vanessa, she was from Medellin Colombia, very lovely, paid her 200 for 2 hours, she was great, total GFE, overall excellent I have her number if anyone want can pm me.

DAY 3.

I went to see panama canal, and at night went to Habanos it was very crowded as it was Saturday night, all nice girls were occupied so left the place.

Day 4.

I had an appointment fixed by my guide, I went to her place, she was nothing like her photo and had poor experience.

At night went to Habanos not much girls, at last chose one girl at 125 usd per hour, she was OK.

Overall Panama is an expensive city, with poor infrastructure for sex tourism despite it is legal, famous Habanos was nothing like clubs in Bangkok or Dubai. I was disappointed by this city it was not like Dubai as it market itself as Dubai of central america. My guide who arranged my tour was good girl helped me a lot, if you want her services I can give you her number she can arrange girls who can party with you etc.

Tiny 12
11-26-16, 20:04
A place worth trying might be the Executive Hotel. It is only about 3 minutes walking to Habanos. I asked the security guy if it was OK to bring ladies to the room. He made it very clear that there are zero problems bringing a lady in to the hotel. He actually told this to me two times and asked me if I wanted to ask for a room. I said maybe tomorrow. It's OK with security, but I didn't ask reception, so I can't say they will not try to charge you. I have to say the location of the Executive Hotel is excellent and the price is less than the Hyatt. I stayed there several times in years past. If they thought you were entering with a hooker, they charged a $10 or $15 guest fee and had the girl register, not a big deal. The restaurant is open 24 hours and attracts some after work dancers/providers from places like LE Palace. The hotel was good value for the money, a little run down, but comfortable. The A/C drowned out the street noise so I could sleep, which is a big plus for an older hotel in this part of the city.

Tiny 12
11-26-16, 20:07
My guide who arranged my tour was good girl helped me a lot, if you want her services I can give you her number she can arrange girls who can party with you etc.Based on your experience it sounds like the guide is the last person you'd want arranging girls for you.

RacShack
11-26-16, 20:25
I visited Panama city as part of my Central American tour, I contacted a girl before visiting panama, I got her number from a member on this forum, contacted her on whatsapp and planned my tour with girls etc.

Day 1.

She picked me from airport and handed me sim card, and leave me at my hotel Hyatt place. I had appointment with a Colombian girl at her place in afternoon, reached her place by uber, she was OK, but no GFE, no BBJ, paid her 125 usd for 2 shots, At night I had a dinner date with a girl she arranged, but she was nothing like her photo, had a dinner at an Arabic restaurant and than sex, she did offer BBJ and DFK but she was not pretty, paid her 125 usd for 2 shots..Wow sounds like she got why some sub-par pussy and ugly chicks, why would we want her again?

Cheema
11-26-16, 22:53
Based on your experience it sounds like the guide is the last person you'd want arranging girls for you.You are right she was hit and miss, but she do have some girls that can do threesome and offering extras which was not my cup of tea as I wanted good looking girls with GFE. This forum is all about sharing that's why I offered to share her number.

Cool
11-27-16, 04:25
Wow sounds like she got why some sub-par pussy and ugly chicks, why would we want her again?You can get subpar chicks struggling to feed their kids in Philippines for $45, a meal, pampers, and [CodeWord131] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord131).

Cool
11-27-16, 04:31
I would advise not going weekend nights because it is a local sausage fest. Plus the same lineup is there early in the week. It's not like Tijuana where you have hotties who selectively work weekends for max. Earnings. The low prices can hook rookies (la gancha) but most of the time your only getting 10 minutes. Unless you pay more. Chicas can also nickel and dime gringos for extras like their Tijuana counterparts. I browsed this evening for 2 hrs. (waste) and didn't strike a deal.

Gagoo
11-28-16, 03:47
I stayed there several times in years past. If they thought you were entering with a hooker, they charged a $10 or $15 guest fee and had the girl register, not a big deal. The restaurant is open 24 hours and attracts some after work dancers/providers from places like LE Palace. The hotel was good value for the money, a little run down, but comfortable. The A/C drowned out the street noise so I could sleep, which is a big plus for an older hotel in this part of the city.The location is quite excellent. The prices I seen seem pretty good. If you can get the girls in for free sometimes I think it would be a pretty good deal, and if they only charge $10 - $15 sometimes, that isn't bad either. I enjoyed the Hyatt a lot, but sometimes the price goes over $100 a night, and I'd rather spend less than half of that at the Tower House, then I can use the money saved towards banging a chick. Unfortunately the Tower House was booked up for something. But the Tower House is another couple blocks of walking. I have gotten girls to walk to the hotels no problem though.

YippieKayay
11-29-16, 15:03
Overall Panama is an expensive city, with poor infrastructure for sex tourism despite it is legal, famous Habanos was nothing like clubs in Bangkok or Dubai. I was disappointed by this city it was not like Dubai as it market itself as Dubai of central america. My guide who arranged my tour was good girl helped me a lot, if you want her services I can give you her number she can arrange girls who can party with you etc.First of all stop with using a 'guide' and just come by yourself. Secondly, you probably want to start coming after February up until November. A lot of the girls in Habanos are from Colombia and tend to go back for the holidays before returning to work.

It's a pretty good destination, safe, and very convenient. The only problem is the warm climate and the lack of day activities.

Tp Horn
11-29-16, 16:10
My experience was altered by 15 sailors out to have a good time.That fancy new stealth US Navy destroyer is broke down and moored here. I saw that and wondered what the crew is up to.

Tricycle
12-01-16, 00:53
I spent two nights during the Thanksgiving week at the Continental Hotel and Casino. The location was ideal with a 5 minute walk to Habanos Cafe. The hotel was clean but tired, in need of paint and new carpet. That being said, it was still good value. Both nights I brought a girl in with me and did not get stopped or charged a fee.

Habanos is a covered patio bar which picks up after 9 pm. Many of the girls are Columbian and are outstanding; I paid $100 and $130. It seems a covered BJ is the standard in Central America, the sessions were however a good time.

I made the mistake of going to LE Palace. Referring to it as a nude club is a stretch of the definition. They are nude for 10 seconds at the end of the song. I must say, they do have a number of attractive ladies, but time in the room is $100 to the girl and $300 to the club.

YippieKayay
12-01-16, 23:29
I made the mistake of going to LE Palace. Referring to it as a nude club is a stretch of the definition. They are nude for 10 seconds at the end of the song. I must say, they do have a number of attractive ladies, but time in the room is $100 to the girl and $300 to the club.There's no reason to go to LE Palace or any other strip club in Panama City. Rip off joints.

Covered BJ is not really the norm but it depends on the girl and how she feels about you.

Tricycle
12-02-16, 05:45
There's no reason to go to LE Palace or any other strip club in Panama City. Rip off joints.

Covered BJ is not really the norm but it depends on the girl and how she feels about you.Thanks for the reply. It was my first visit to Panama and I did read the forum, so I had a sense that strip clubs would not be a good option, but I wanted to have a look for myself. I had one drink and left.

I'll admit I did not have many sample points but, when you have good conversation, are fit and clean, and covered is used, then I'm thinking that is the standard. These were very attractive ladies, in the future I will bring it up prior to leaving with them. You do make a valid point, but outside of this trip to Central America, I rarely have covered BJs initiated.

Oyving
12-03-16, 16:26
Continental Hotel and Casino... Both nights I brought a girl in with me and did not get stopped or charged a fee.I was. I was given a suite because they gave me to a room that was already occupied. I was charged $22 when the girl showed up. It may have been to pay for the difference. But YMMV.

Mellowg
12-04-16, 13:33
For those interested.

Last night at around 23:00, I counted at least 10 providers.

Enjoy.

Mellow.

P.S. There also was a Poker tournament with a pot worth us $100,000. Wonder if it had anything to do with the above. (grin).

BatInTheCity
12-10-16, 16:25
I spent two nights during the Thanksgiving week at the Continental Hotel and Casino. The location was ideal with a 5 minute walk to Habanos Cafe. The hotel was clean but tired, in need of paint and new carpet. That being said, it was still good value. Both nights I brought a girl in with me and did not get stopped or charged a fee.

Habanos is a covered patio bar which picks up after 9 pm. Many of the girls are Columbian and are outstanding; I paid $100 and $130. It seems a covered BJ is the standard in Central America, the sessions were however a good time.

I made the mistake of going to LE Palace. Referring to it as a nude club is a stretch of the definition. They are nude for 10 seconds at the end of the song. I must say, they do have a number of attractive ladies, but time in the room is $100 to the girl and $300 to the club.Correction on the prices at LE Palace. Its $125 to the club, and $250 to the girl in your room (hotel, apt.) Yes, these are premium prices, but when I was there in November I got premium service. What a blast. I pay for the Hefner experience of bare Colombian girls all around while the one I picked and I were making out for a long time right at our table before I said, "Check Please!!!" To me it was worth it. YMMV.

KrisMonger
12-13-16, 04:54
Just wanted to update the forum with more info on my new favorite mongering destination. Panama city. I was there twice in the last 3 months. The most recent one was in November, just a week before thanksgiving. Hyatt Palace continues to be the go to place for take home without charges. Habanos still seems to be the right place to find talent. The last time I was there -me and my buddies were having a birthday bash and organized a few things as a part of that event.

An evening on a boat with chicas. Worked out decently -but somewhat expensive. PM me if you need details -but we ended up spending about 6 K and had about 10 chicas on the boat for about 4 hours. It was interesting -but not really much value for the money I spent I think.

Rented a place called Royal Mansion (https://www.royalmansionpty.com/royal_mansion/web/) and brought chicas in there as well. Be warned. These guys ripped us off. They not only charged our credit card but we also gave them money and they said we didn't pay anything at all. While we liked the place. I would stay away from these guys.

In my visit earlier. Made the mistake of going to to Elite after getting way hammered in Red Lion Inn. Not only bought 265 dollars worth of drinks for the girl (which is like barfine) -I took a Salvadorian chica back to Hyatt (forgot her name -speaks really decent English and I fell for it). I think I paid like 250 USD for TLN (at that time when I picked up it was like 3 AM already). Pretty bad service (and I was [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) drunk) - kicked her out after 30 minutes.

I personally think that there is no point in going to Elite or LE Palace. Just go to Habanos or Ashe for pickup. For eye candy go hang around near the Red Lion area and you are all good. Uber is great in Panama city -so just use that.

Kris.

KrisMonger
12-13-16, 04:57
There's no reason to go to LE Palace or any other strip club in Panama City. Rip off joints.

Covered BJ is not really the norm but it depends on the girl and how she feels about you.I suggest that you negotiate with the girl ahead of getting her out of Habanos. I always do. If someone quotes me like 150 - I always ask for shower together, Commida Sin Condom and a massage for that money. If not -I suggest negotiate down to 100.

TripAdvisor16
12-16-16, 18:58
Just wondering if the locals come out at Habanos as the Colombians, Vene and Cubans head back home for Christmas?

Sargent 50
12-16-16, 23:04
Do the women stay in there countries etc after x mas? Thinking of flying down the 26th of this month if the girls aren't all home with their families.

YippieKayay
12-17-16, 06:40
Do the women stay in there countries etc after x mas? Thinking of flying down the 26th of this month if the girls aren't all home with their families.Christmas, most non-local girls will be back home with their families. That's as straight forward an answer you will get. I'm not sure beginning of January is that busy either.

Goblin345
12-19-16, 00:29
Hi everyone,

I have a question to those of you who's been to both San Jose and Panama City. I'll be staying in San Jose, Costa Rica for five nights at the Sportsman's Lodge August next year.

I'm wondering if it would be worthwhile to cut my stay in San Jose a little short and spend a few nights in Panama City. I'm mostly looking for variety (as in ladies' nationalities) above all.

Would it be worthwhile to spend a couple of nights in Panama City? Or should I just stay in San Jose? Would I find Panamanian girls in San Jose?

Thanks in advance!

Drf1987
12-19-16, 04:50
Hi everyone,

I have a question to those of you who's been to both San Jose and Panama City. I'll be staying in San Jose, Costa Rica for five nights at the Sportsman's Lodge August next year.

I'm wondering if it would be worthwhile to cut my stay in San Jose a little short and spend a few nights in Panama City. I'm mostly looking for variety (as in ladies' nationalities) above all.

Would it be worthwhile to spend a couple of nights in Panama City? Or should I just stay in San Jose? Would I find Panamanian girls in San Jose?

Thanks in advance!I've never been to Panama but I've been to San Jose and I went to Del Ray and saw many different nationalities. I hooked up with a girl from Nicaragua and let me tell you she was worth every penny. There were girls there from Colombia and Panama as well. I'm not saying don't go to Panama but I did see a nice variety when I was in San Jose.

Shemp
12-19-16, 07:36
Hi everyone,

I have a question to those of you who's been to both San Jose and Panama City. I'll be staying in San Jose, Costa Rica for five nights at the Sportsman's Lodge August next year.

I'm wondering if it would be worthwhile to cut my stay in San Jose a little short and spend a few nights in Panama City. I'm mostly looking for variety (as in ladies' nationalities) above all.

Would it be worthwhile to spend a couple of nights in Panama City? Or should I just stay in San Jose? Would I find Panamanian girls in San Jose?

Thanks in advance!If you're looking for variety in nationalities, go to San Jose. While you will mostly find Ticas-the local girls, & Nicas-the Nicaraguan girls, you will find a sampling of others. I've been going there for 12 yrs now, & have met working girls from Venezuela, Peru, Colombia, Brazil, Cuba, Dominican Republic, Panama, & Guatemala.

HolySmokes
12-19-16, 17:29
If you're looking for variety in nationalities, go to San Jose. While you will mostly find Ticas-the local girls, & Nicas-the Nicaraguan girls, you will find a sampling of others. I've been going there for 12 yrs now, & have met working girls from Venezuela, Peru, Colombia, Brazil, Cuba, Dominican Republic, Panama, & Guatemala.Hi,

I am a novice at mongering. I am also thinking of going to Panama for a few days in early February. What are my chances of finding Black girls there? Should I be going somewhere else instead?

Thanks for the help.

Mellowg
12-20-16, 05:18
Hi,

What are my chances of finding Black girls there? .HS.

You will find dark skinned girls in Veneto and Habanos and don't forget to read about La Major also.

The ratio might be lower than light skinned girls, but you will find what you are looking for I am sure.

Enjoy.

Mellow.

Lucky Nuts
12-20-16, 17:13
Hi guys I'm in PC now. At Habanos last night there were probably about only 25 girls (mas o manos) compared to the usual 60 to 80 (I'm guessing). Veneto was close to empty, maybe two or three at most. So the pickings are a lot slimmer (not literally) than usual but I did hook up with two different chicas from Colombia that are staying here over the holidays for various personal reasons.

Lucky Nuts
12-20-16, 17:17
Hi,

I am a novice at mongering. I am also thinking of going to Panama for a few days in early February. What are my chances of finding Black girls there? Should I be going somewhere else instead?

Thanks for the help.Yeah no problem. All shapes, sizes, colors and nationalities. Last night there was a really hot black chica at Habanos. I don't usually take negritas but I considered her because she had a great ass.

Lucky Nuts
12-20-16, 17:22
Hi everyone,

I have a question to those of you who's been to both San Jose and Panama City. I'll be staying in San Jose, Costa Rica for five nights at the Sportsman's Lodge August next year.

I'm wondering if it would be worthwhile to cut my stay in San Jose a little short and spend a few nights in Panama City. I'm mostly looking for variety (as in ladies' nationalities) above all.

Would it be worthwhile to spend a couple of nights in Panama City? Or should I just stay in San Jose? Would I find Panamanian girls in San Jose?

Thanks in advance!I've been to both in the last year and my answer is definitely YES visit Panama City too if you can swing the additional airfare. But I'm obviously biased because I keep returning to PC and have not returned to San Jose. The variety at Habanos is excellent with chicas from at least five different countries. Funny thing is I love Panama but I don't really care for Panamanian chicas LOL.

Lucky Nuts
12-21-16, 03:54
Hyatt Place to Trump Tower (the 66th floor bar offers a great view of the city) $3. 11 (with 1. 2 surcharge LOL).

Trump Tower to Red Lion (San Francisco) $2. 06.

Red Lion to Beruit Restaurant (across from Habanos) $2. 54.

Anyone not using Uber in Panama is throwing away money.

Sargent 50
12-21-16, 13:36
Hi guys I'm in PC now. At Habanos last night there were probably about only 25 girls (mas o manos) compared to the usual 60 to 80 (I'm guessing). Veneto was close to empty, maybe two or three at most. So the pickings are a lot slimmer (not literally) than usual but I did hook up with two different chicas from Colombia that are staying here over the holidays for various personal reasons.Thanks for the intel I want to visit next week but apparently a lot of the girls home with family. How long will you be there?

Lucky Nuts
12-21-16, 16:23
Thanks for the intel I want to visit next week but apparently a lot of the girls home with family. How long will you be there?I'm heading back home today. Last night there were about 40 chicas at Habanos. I pulled an 8 after she agreed to do things right and she did not disappoint.

Xhobbesx
12-22-16, 04:30
Hello,

I'll be flying into Panama City around 9 PM on Friday, December 23rd. Any good hotel recommendations on where I can stay for some nearby action?

Is it cheaper to take an uber from the taxi to the hotel?

Thanks.

HolySmokes
12-22-16, 04:35
Yeah no problem. All shapes, sizes, colors and nationalities. Last night there was a really hot black chica at Habanos. I don't usually take negritas but I considered her because she had a great ass.Thanks VegasCG and Mellow for the info on Black girls.

Droplet
12-22-16, 18:42
I'm heading back home today. Last night there were about 40 chicas at Habanos. I pulled an 8 after she agreed to do things right and she did not disappoint.I will be there in the next couple of days. What time is good to be there? 8 pm?

Member #2041
12-22-16, 20:34
Hello,

I'll be flying into Panama City around 9 PM on Friday, December 23rd. Any good hotel recommendations on where I can stay for some nearby action?

Is it cheaper to take an uber from the taxi to the hotel?

Thanks.Veneto is right in the heart of the action. Also Las Vegas Suites, where I stayed, is right around the corner and generally cheaper than Veneto.

Xhobbesx
12-22-16, 21:53
Veneto is right in the heart of the action. Also Las Vegas Suites, where I stayed, is right around the corner and generally cheaper than Veneto.Thanks for the info. Do either of the hotels charge a guest fee?

Also, can you tell me what I can expect to pay for a short session?

Lucky Nuts
12-23-16, 01:24
Hello,

I'll be flying into Panama City around 9 PM on Friday, December 23rd. Any good hotel recommendations on where I can stay for some nearby action?

Is it cheaper to take an uber from the taxi to the hotel?

Thanks.The best hotel for my taste is Hyatt Place. It's not cheap but I'd say it's a great value for all the amenities.

Habanos action begins at 10 pm. No reason to show up sooner.

This week there is a very hot blond chica just arrived back in town from Cali, Colombia. She looks about 28 or 30 years old but has a killer body. She is sweet as sweet can be in Habanos and she's a ***** witch once she's in your room. I don't know her name but she's probably the only blond at Habanos and definitely the only blond from Cali. I've actually taken her twice before due to drunken ignorance. But when I saw her again a couple nights ago I finally remembered. After talking with her a short while. Thankfully! Do NOT waste your money on this chica. If one of you guys going down this week could get her name and report it to this thread it would be helpful. I remember her telling me that her hair is blond because her dad is Dutch so that would be the proof positive you have the right chica.

Member #2041
12-23-16, 04:32
Thanks for the info. Do either of the hotels charge a guest fee?

Also, can you tell me what I can expect to pay for a short session?My info would be almost 3 years old. At the time no guest fee in Vegas Suites. As for the going rates, I suggest you read more recent posts in this thread and elsewhere.

Lucky Nuts
12-23-16, 21:26
Thanks for the info. Do either of the hotels charge a guest fee?

Also, can you tell me what I can expect to pay for a short session?Hyatt Place does not charge a guest fee. If you ask that question they might tell you it's $15 each. But they never actually charge you anything when you check out.

An average looking chica will be very happy with $100. The couple hottest ones want $150 but might take $120 or $130 on a slow night. Or maybe even $100 if the supply / demand ratio is in your favor. I always start at $100 (for a hot one) and if she asks for more I tell them more is possible depending on what's included with the service. Some "less in demand" chicas would go for $80 or even less at times depending on how anxious they are to earn some cash.

Chicago85
12-25-16, 02:18
All,

Just providing an overview from my Panama City trip Dec 13 (Tue) – Dec 18th (Sun). I plan to post this in a few different forums I frequent so some of you may have already seen. Also, much of this will not be new, but I think it's good to confirm the going rate for old timers and provide the lay of the land for newbies. My overall take is that without multiple nonstop connections to USA Cities, Habano's café, and the convenience of quality hotels, Panama City would not be worth a second thought, but it does have those attributes so worth the read. Here goes.

Transportation.

Uber, download it now! I regularly use it in the states and here it is a godsend so you don't need to mess with cabbies. Airport to town is $20-$35 vs $35 for cabs and I didn't have a single ride around town that was more than $5 and some took 20 minutes plus. Tip - Walk to a busy street for quicker pick up. There are many one-ways and it can be a major issue for many of them.

Hotels.

Hyatt Place was where I stayed and a great deal. Cost was $75/ nt for a larger than average room with 2 Queen's, hot breakfast, and free wi-fi. The place also had a nice gym, laundry, and pool on the roof (saw a few cuties up there when I stayed). Girl friendly, but since it's also a family and business hotel I was generally respectful and didn't come back with a girl until later at night (past 11 pm).

Massage Parlors.

Golden Times: Went on Wednesday night around 8 pm. 12-15 girls that were 6. 5's to 8's. Open 7 pm to 3 or 4 am. Cost is 120+tip. I took a curvy Colombian spinner who was great. Nice massage back and front and then FS. The rooms are what you'the expect, but they also had these kind of gymnastic bars hanging from the ceiling (at least in room #6). We made full use of those ha ha.

Pick Up Joints.

Venetos: Went 10:30 pm on Tuesday and there were 10-15 girls, mostly 5's and 6's. Talked to a few and they were Cubans and Dominicans. Cost was $100. Didn't like the quality and didn't barter any further. Swung through Thursday and Saturday nights around 10 pm and it wasn't any better.

Habanos Café: Went most nights around 10:30 pm. Girls really roll in around 11 pm. And peaks around 11:30 pm. The best nights seemed to be Wednesday and Thursday vs Friday and Saturday, but it may have been influenced by the holidays. Colombians, Venezuelans, and some Panamanians. Usually 30 to 50 girls who were mostly 7's and 8's with a few 9's. I'm a very picky guy who likes blonde Latinas and even found a couple of those who were quite stunning. Most of the girls try to start at $150 to $200 for short time, with the ability to work the majority down to $80 to $100 for short time. The hotter 4 or 5 seemed to have a basement of $120 to $150, but this was usually around midnight and they may have gotten cheaper later on. One of the cool things about Habano's is the ability to take the girls to the second floor bar to better inspect the goods and have a conversation. Downside is you generally need to buy them a drink, but the upside is I was usually able to get the girls down to $80 once away from the chica 'union'. If they did hold to $120 then I tried to negotiate a massage and shower. The dynamic was also interesting as the ratio was usually 2:1, but 65% of the guys were local Panamanians who would just string the girls along so they had some cute eye candy sitting with them, but rarely took anyone. Beers and mixed drinks were $5.

Ashe: More of a dance club type set up with girls that seemed to be Panamanian and Colombian. Within a few blocks of Hyatt and Habano's Café. I went on a Friday and there was a $10 cover. It seemed liked 3:1 guys to girls (bad! Not sure why the guys were hanging out there. Hard to talk with girls there since it was loud, but if you like to dance it's the place to go.

Day Game.

Bocatorena: Locals joint south of the Seafood Market. Two rooms full of 40 to 60 4's to 6's and it was $15-$20 for 15 minutes. Only place I could find for during the day. Not of the faint of heart. And it smells horrible! In a sketchy part of town so if you're solo I'the go during the day. I went there a couple times in the late afternoon through early evening and was the only gringo. I never did grab a girl. $2 beers.

La Mayor: Strip club next to Bocatorena. Quality wasn't any better, but for a $3 cover it had A / see and plenty of places to sit. The girls were not attractive. 5's and 6's maybe. I believe cost was $25 or $30 for 30 minutes during the day and then went up to $50 for 30 minutes in the evening.

Tinder.

Definitely some girls on here, but I think there were a lot of fakes as well. I found two Venezuelans on there for $40/$50 for a 'full massage'. I had heard Badoo was a good app, but I didn't fine any quality on there. Mostly girls looking for friends. Overall not sure it's worth the effort unless you have a week or so as many of the girls live outside the main city and you end up texting back and forth forever.

Restaurants.

I was impressed by the quality of decently priced food. Recommendations close to the action include Beirut, Costa Azul, and Manalos (sp)? Also, there was a nice little outdoor coffee and lunch place called Caffe Max next to Habano's Café. It's run by some really nice Venezuelans and work checking out.