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RiceRocket99
08-01-17, 01:15
I'm a GFE guy so I always go for BBBJ, DFK, multiple pops, CIM, etc. If I don't find a cutie or hottie that does what I like for the right price, I keep chilling / drinking till I find her or I just go home. Maybe being in my 30's and speaking fluent Spanish helps, but anybody can do it if they put in some effort and hold their ground. Rejections are bound to happen, I pile them up quick LOL. I like the challenge. Anyways, MDE ain't no secret anymore, I already have done some recon on a few Colombian cities not overrun by gringos, no offense.


I hate those darn rubber plastic bags and given the above the phones at Copa Airlines are probably ringing off the hook. The Venezuelans are a great bargaining chip w those Colombianas as they hate them as they work for cheaper than the Co. 's. I was in the mood to get anything with a vagina and two legs and get out of the heat so didn't bother but if I were one to hang out and look for the deal I would simply tell those Co. 's that you appreciate their offer but the Venezuelans will offer the same if not less (same w Cubans), bounce them off each other and the Co. 's will come right down in a jiffy. I just didn't have the energy, was zapped, dehydrated etc.

Looks like I need to check out Medellin and will make sure to pack my specially patented invisible condoms.

Hypermofo
08-05-17, 22:32
My question is are there any high end luxury hotels in Panama that allow chicas?I brought one into the Sortis without any problems. The pool's great, too.

Lee
08-06-17, 01:36
There's a new manager at the Hyatt. The gentleman formerly in charge has moved on and a lady has taken his place. Wonder if there's a connection of the feminine variety to the new $15.00 guest fee. Just speculation.

Lee.

RiceRocket99
08-06-17, 05:19
I decided to check out Trump Hotel (officially named Ocean Club Hotel Trump.) on a Friday night. Yes, there are chicas available. I stayed for only about 30 minutes. The quality was sub par, mostly 6's & 7's, and a few 8's. Granted, I had a short time window to scout the place, so maybe some nights are better or hotter chicas might show up later. If you are into gambling, then it's worth a visit since it's a very nice and fancy casino and you get some eye candy along with it. The casino structure is Vegas-quality and makes Veneto seem like a Motel 6 off a beaten road. Speaking of Veneto, it's gone downhill and it gives me a depressing feeling when I walk into the place. Downhill in terms of both infrastructure and chica quality. I did not approach any chicas at Trump, so I wouldn't know what the pricing is. I imagine $100-$150 since chicas will think you got more dough being in that place. Unless you are actually staying at Trump, not really worth the time & money to go chica hunting there.

After the quick scout, headed to Habanos and it was packed with chicas. I took a fine looking Venezolona with silky smooth white skin, long jet black hair, and some juicy lips. She agreed to BBBJ, DFK, and CIM for $100. We drank for about an hour before hitting up a nearby motel. She had nice set of tits and ass, even though they were enhanced. She was great and even exceeded my expectations by giving me a nice and wet rim job. Will def have a repeat session. Gave her a tip and called it a night. I envy those who stay at Hyatt or anyplace nearby. Motel rooms aren't the best quality and I live 20 minutes away from the main city if there's no traffic. Building that Panama Metro is a traffic headache almost all day everyday.

Loso69
08-06-17, 05:34
My first night in Panama, I headed for Habano's. After ordering a 5 USD Panama beer, I made my rounds to survey the talent. Habano's isn't a big place, and it gets very crowded, so moving around requires patience & some elbow work. The girls were mostly white-skinned Latinas. Long hair was de rigueur. Quite a few girls prominently displayed their silicone boobs.

My favorite was a brown-skinned chica with long, wavy, blonde hair, an exquisite face and a perfect figure. I hadn't spoken Spanish in almost a decade, so my grammarless Spanish was rusty. When I said "Hola" to my Colombian Barbie doll, she wanted to sit down and order drinks. Before committing to her, I asked Camila how much she wanted. 200 USD! :eek: When I said that was expensive, Camila was quick to make her escape. The next night, I noticed Camila was actively avoiding me. Even when I returned to Panama 2 weeks later, Camila still remembered me, and stayed as far away from me as possible. Just because I said 200 USD was expensive? Wow! :confused:

I was tired after the long trip, and didn't want to waste much time before grabbing a girl. My next target was Liz, a tall Colombian chica with long, black hair to her ass. A timid, yet radiant smile illuminated her pretty face. Liz only asked for 100 USD, which I understood to be the standard ST rate in Habano's. In the interview, Liz gave all the wrong answers: no kissing - no BBBJ. When Liz agreed to model for me, I took her home anyway. BTW, since Liz hadn't bought a drink, she made me buy her an 8 USD drink before she would leave with me. Bizarre! :confused:

Liz's big, firm, natural tits were still lactating. Her baby was the reason this 23yo from Barranquilla was hooking - the classic story. Seemingly averse to all intimacy, Liz wasn't cut out for this line of work, though. Basically a pretty starfish. :p

Panama added. Country #74.

Loso

Loso69
08-06-17, 05:55
The next afternoon, I started contacting escorts via WhatsApp. 18yo blonde Colombian Camila was high on my to-do list. Camila wanted 120 USD for an hour (outcall only; taxi included). When she agreed to pictures, I invited her to my hotel. I was surprised when Camila actually called my hotel room to confirm I was staying there.

I was disappointed when Camila knocked on my door. Her face wasn't as pretty as I imagined. A little make-up would definitely have helped her cause. Her grandmother dress wasn't exactly flattering either. Habano's babes usually take great pride in their appearance (make-up, hair & dress). Panama escorts, on the other hand, often look like something the cat dragged in. ;) Damn shame!

My frown turned into a smile as soon as Camila got naked, though. Her hard, skinny body adorned with pert B-cup titties was natural Viagra. Camila liked to kiss, though she was carefully hiding her tongue. The BJ was covered, but playful. With her braces, a BBBJ may have been risky business anyway. Camila carefully let my dick slide into her tight, young snatch. I had a mesmerizing view of her nubile body as she was making all the right noises while bobbing up & down on my dick.

Blonde Camila isn't currently advertising, but this old ad is still accessible:
http://panama.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/soy-una-nina-dulce-de-18-anos-con-un-cuerpo-que-te-cautivara-a-primera-vista-67409092/3568837

In Habano's that night, I somehow wasn't really in the mood. The girls all looked alike tonight, so I soon started identifying different-looking chicas. My maybes got picked, and I ended up walking home solo. Oh well.

Loso

Loso69
08-06-17, 06:01
The next day, I contacted grey-eyed Venezuelan blonde Tania (23). 80 USD / hour. No pictures! I tried blonde Emily (24). 100 USD / hour. No pictures! I texted hot Colombian blonde Isabela (19). 100 USD / hour. No pictures!

Next up was Colombian redhead Camila (20). She charged 80 USD for an hour, or 150 USD for 3 hours. Just like her blonde namesake, Camila showed up without make-up, with messy hair and wearing an unbecoming outfit. And she had a child, with a soft tummy & sagging tits as a result. Like many of her compatriots, Camila wanted silicone implants, costing 2000 USD!

When I inquired about pictures, Camila replied: "Claro". I took that for a yes. In my room, Camila wouldn't allow pictures at first. When I took a single picture wearing her outfit, she made me delete it. But when I gave her a tiger bikini to wear, and promised to send her the pictures, she loved to model. :) And Camila's wild, red hair turned out to be super photogenic.

Camila kissed, but wouldn't surrender her tongue. The BJ was covered, but she did try her hand at deep throat. The sex with this redheaded minx was wild & horny. I loved her passionate cries as she urged me to fuck her harder & faster. :)

After the sex, Camila wanted pictures wearing my Desigual Kamasutra shirt, then modelled 4 more of my sexy outfits. Camila wanted to use my pictures in her escort ads. I loved it when she wrote: "La camisa solo para pervertidos el camasutra... nada de copias". Since it was my shirt, I guess that makes me the pervert. :D

Red Camila doesn't seem to be working right now, but these old ads are still available. The 2nd link features my pictures:
http://panama.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/sexy-colombianita-de-fuego-66960172/3542499
http://panama.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/colombianita-de-fuego-camila-66960172/3588653

Loso

Loso69
08-06-17, 06:09
I'd contacted 18yo blonde Colombian Karen the day before. She charged 100 USD / hour. She kissed & gave BBBJs. But she was on holiday in Mexico (!) with a girlfriend, and would only be returning to Panama the next day. Karen was the 1st girl I contacted today. She wasn't online. She replied hours later through a voice message. I hated bloody voice messages. You can't run them through Google translate! ;)

Landing around 11 PM, Karen made a short pit-stop at her apartment, then headed straight for my hotel. With perfect make-up & wearing a sexy black dress, Karen totally looked the part of a high class escort. Perfect for a photo shoot! :)

Karen had a bigger booty than anticipated, but since she was tall, she could get away with it. She used to have big, natural tits, had a breast reduction (!) because of back pain, then had implants installed. Loco!

Karen hadn't been fucked in 3 weeks, and was pining for a hard dick. She loved French kissing. She rolled my dick around in her mouth. She went deep. She teased me with rapid-fire tongue action. With great variation & amazing technique, Karen was a veritable BBBJ expert. She was no slouch in the sex department either, frantically shaking her pelvis while riding me, and loudly encouraging me as I banged her as hard as I could. Karen was a total sex kitten! :)

These are some of Karen's old ads. The 2nd ad contains a short video. The 3rd ad features my pictures:
http://panama.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/karen-ardiente-reina-de-las-fiestas-blancas-y-las-mamadas-profundas-linda-chica-colombiana-67184549/3547252
http://panama.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/karen-ardiente-67589675-bomba-sexual-colombiana-rubia-adicta-ala-pinga/3588231
http://panama2.wanuncios.com/karen-ardiente-bomba-sexual-colombiana-67589675-adicta-alas-pingas-195-836300.html

Loso

Methius
08-06-17, 06:21
Speaking of Veneto, it's gone downhill and it gives me a depressing feeling when I walk into the place. Downhill in terms of both infrastructure and chica quality. I agree. The $40 chica fee, the general lack of chicas to choose from, and heavy handed security add to the feeling of depression. I saw an old guy trying to bring two chicas up the escalator one evening and he was blocked for no apparent reason. Chicas left, he disappeared.

LuvPanamaBabes
08-06-17, 14:50
I went there last November and took a gorgeous girl upstairs for $20 for about 20 minutes, my next time there this past January, tried to get this hot girl upstairs, and she looked at me like I was crazy.

My question is, this place only a strip club now?

Thanks!

Edudmem
08-06-17, 18:31
Anyone run into two Colombians named Jennifer and Daniela? The frequent the Hilton casino and casino at aloft? Please pm me if you seen them. Jennie has dark hair in 20's and Daniela is blonde and older.

EriccccIre
08-07-17, 05:10
The Hilton allows chicas and it's nice. You can pay walk in the front and pay the $15 guest parking fee and they'll copy the passport. Or you can walk in through the Casino (elevator to the pool level and switch to the other bank of elevators) and bypass the front desk and pay nothing. Depends on how much you trust the lady.Thanks. Will try this next time. Location seems great too. It's almost as close to Habanos as the Hyatt Place and plus has water views.

EriccccIre
08-07-17, 05:38
I brought one into the Sortis without any problems. The pool's great, too.That's a great central location and place looks nice.

Thanks.

Loso69
08-12-17, 04:02
As I embarked upon this trip through Central America, I was pretty sure I'd get laid (with the required pictures, of course) in Panama & Costa Rica. I wasn't at all sure about Nicaragua, Honduras & El Salvador, but I'd pulled it off. I'd added 5 new countries. Hallelujah! :D As I landed at Panama airport, I was back where I started from. My trip was already a major success, but I still wanted to end with a bang. :D

Having spent time in 3 dangerous cities (Managua, Tegucigalpa & San Salvador), where I never set foot outside my hotel after dark, I was glad to return to the safety of Panama City. As I walked towards Habano's, there was a spring in my step as I looked up to the night-time sky. Happiness is being able to walk around at night. ;)

As I checked into Hyatt Place around 11.30 PM, a hot babe was sitting in the hotel lobby. As our eyes locked, I immediately knew she was available, but I wasn't ready for a visitor just yet. By the time I'd unpacked & freshened up, she was gone. I soon spotted her at Habano's, though. Lauren was from Cuba. After initially asking for 200 USD, she said her minimum was 150 USD. Too rich for my blood! :p

My next target was a girl who reminded me of Salma Hayek, with an exquisite face & long, reddish hair in a ponytail. Her huge silicone tits were proudly on display. Gorgeous Adriana was a paisa from Medellin, who asked for 120 USD, and accepted 100 USD. When I inquired about pictures, Adriana didn't seem enthusiastic, but finally agreed to model for me. Vamos!

As soon as we were in my room, Adriana sat down on the sofa and lifted her dress, exposing her pink treasure. I bowed down to my silicone goddess, and licked her sweet pussy until she came. When Adriana saw my camera (a big DSLR), she suddenly changed her mind about modelling. She wanted to leave, feeling she deserved 20 USD because I'd licked her pussy. I wasn't able to convince her to star before my camera. Damn shame! :(

Back on the hunt in Habano's, I talked to a pretty Venezuelan chica called Melany. She asked for 200 USD, lowered her price to 150 USD, walking away when I still wouldn't bite. Next up was Venezuelan babe Athenas, sporting long, curly brown hair and wearing a glitzy, tight-fitting lycra dress. She started off asking for 200 USD, then 150 USD, then 120 USD & finally 100 USD. With pictures! Vamos!

Athenas was my 1st ever Venezuelan girl. :) Having a baby didn't do any damage to her exquisite body. By virtue of working as a stripper, she had an incredibly sexy ass. Her obviously fake balloon tits didn't become her. During the photo shoot, Athenas showcased her most prominent feature: the most radiant smile I've ever witnessed. :D She truly has the potential to be the next Colgate poster girl. ;)

As we showered together, Athenas washed her big baby. She got nice & wet as I licked her pussy. She only reluctantly allowed pecks on the lips. After putting the condom on with her mouth, she administered a decent BJ. After lubing up, Athenas shoved my dick up her tight twat, and rode me like a tigress in heat, as I played with her rock hard little ass. Great cowgirl! :)

Loso

Loso69
08-12-17, 04:15
I'd already contacted several Panama escorts while I was still in San Salvador. The 1st girl who was available the next afternoon was 18yo Colombian Scarlet, who promised the world for 100 USD. Scarlet was an average-looking girl, a little chubby, with big, drooping tits. By now, I was used to Panama escorts showing up without any make-up, but I still hated it! ;)

Scarlet was a passionate redhead who liked French kissing. During the BBBJ, she rolled my dick around in her mouth & went pretty deep. She shook her pelvis at a frantic pace, and grinded my dick hard, as I was grabbing onto her big, hard ass. I tried to work off my big lunch by drilling her hard, with plenty of sloppy kisses. After I lubed up & Scarlet applied numbing cream, she assumed the doggy position & directed my dick into her tight asshole. :D As I was banging her balls deep up the ass, standing by the side of the bed, Scarlet was playing with her clit. :) When my dick slipped out, I ripped off the condom and had Scarlet suck me until she had a mouth full of jizz. :D A lot of Panama escorts claim to be complacent - Scarlet truly was! ;)

These are a couple of Scarlet's old ads:
http://panama.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/hermosa-[CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901)-en-panama-toda-una-ninfomana-para-complacer-tus-deseos-6758-9745/3604485
http://panama2.wanuncios.com/julieta-muy-complaciente-fulita-nueva-en-panama-te-sacara-toda-la-leche-195-862185.html

Loso

Loso69
08-12-17, 04:23
Colombian Carolina was my favorite among the new arrivals in Panama. She was on a shopping spree in the afternoon, visiting my room early evening. In her escort pictures, Carolina looked absolutely stunning. In reality, she was equally stunning. :) Carolina was a vision of the Mexican girl next-door I'd only seen on TV. From the moment I laid eyes on this perfect little angel, I was totally & utterly in love! :D

Carolina wasn't just a pretty face. This all-natural beauty was also a total sweetie, providing a perfect GFE. Considering her amazing looks & GFE service, she was a real bargain for 80 USD. ;)

Feast your eyes on Carolina's old escort ads (as Alisson):
http://panama.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/alisson-nueva-fula-recien-llegada-con-muchos-deseos-de-satisfacerte-al-maximo/3582989
http://panama.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/alisson-hermosa-colombiana-deseosa-de-complacerte-al-maximo-en-tus-fantasias/3583928

Loso

Loso69
08-12-17, 04:28
After banging 2 escorts, I was off to Habano's for a final fling. Hot Cubana Lauren was back. She still wouldn't budge from 150 USD, and was quick to point out there were other girls. :p I talked to a hot Colombiana with black & blonde hair. She insisted on 150 USD as well. It was really frustrating that the hot Habano's chicks had a diva attitude & wouldnt go for less than 150 USD. :(

I finally hooked up with Estefany, another Colombiana with black & blonde hair. She only asked for 100 USD. She agreed to model. Vamos! Once we were in the room, Estefany was a girl in a hurry. I only got 11 pictures of her (a low for Panama). And she seemed intent on extracting my leche ASAP. Since she was my 3rd girl of the day, that wasn't gonna happen! :) At least, she didn't complain as I banged her long & hard. :p

The next day, I checked out at noon, had lunch, then sank a few beers to celebrate a great trip. I'd already taken the ride to/from the airport 3 times by now, so I knew it would only take 20-30 minutes to reach the airport. Little did I know that the road to the airport is also a major commuter road! :eek: Leaving shortly after 5 PM, traffic was gridlocked almost all the way, and the trip took over an hour longer than usual. I arrived at the airport 55 minutes before my departure time & 5 minutes after check-in had closed. I missed my flight! :o

Loso

RiceRocket99
08-12-17, 08:47
There's definitely a puta network in Habanos in which girls stick to a certain pricing and won't budge from it. Then comes the Venezolanas o Cubanas o whoever trying to make a quick hundo or less and they don't give a damn about the status quo. Most of the Colombianas are pissed at these girls setting a 'bad precedent' on pricing. To be honest, I'd rather do a Colombiana in Colombia than anywhere else. So if you like them, go to Colombia! Much better service, less hard core, and no need to negotiate like it's a MLB trade deadline. Its not about being cheap, it's about getting the most for what you pay for. Anyways, Habanos has been rocking lately, you will def find someone you like regardless of what your preference is. If not, then it must have been a slow news day. But just like any other spot, if you go there too much it can get boring and tiring seeing mostly the same girls in different skanky outfits.


After banging 2 escorts, I was off to Habano's for a final fling. Hot Cubana Lauren was back. She still wouldn't budge from 150 USD, and was quick to point out there were other girls. :p I talked to a hot Colombiana with black & blonde hair. She insisted on 150 USD as well. It was really frustrating that the hot Habano's chicks had a diva attitude & wouldnt go for less than 150 USD. :(

I finally hooked up with Estefany, another Colombiana with black & blonde hair. She only asked for 100 USD. She agreed to model. Vamos! Once we were in the room, Estefany was a girl in a hurry. I only got 11 pictures of her (a low for Panama). And she seemed intent on extracting my leche ASAP. Since she was my 3rd girl of the day, that wasn't gonna happen! :) At least, she didn't complain as I banged her long & hard. :p

The next day, I checked out at noon, had lunch, then sank a few beers to celebrate a great trip. I'd already taken the ride to/from the airport 3 times by now, so I knew it would only take 20-30 minutes to reach the airport. Little did I know that the road to the airport is also a major commuter road! :eek: Leaving shortly after 5 PM, traffic was gridlocked almost all the way, and the trip took over an hour longer than usual. I arrived at the airport 55 minutes before my departure time & 5 minutes after check-in had closed. I missed my flight! :o

Loso

Loso69
08-14-17, 18:03
After missing my flight, I returned to the city and evaluated my options. Since buying a new one way ticket was a considerable expense, I figured I should at least visit a new country on the way home. The thought of a few days in Jamaica cheered me up. And I'd have the opportunity to add the J-country that was still missing from my mongering alphabet. ;) After making all the required reservations, I went to sleep. As I woke up, it was Groundhog Day. :D I'd fucked 3 girls on what was supposed to be my final day in Panama. I was now ready to do it all again. :D

My 1st visitor was Colombian Valeria, who charged 80 USD for incall & 100 USD for outcall. Out of the 8 escorts I met in Panama, Valeria was the only girl who used fake pictures. Or rather, her publicist did. ;) Valeria paid 35 USD / date to the person who posted her escorts ads and answered calls & texts. ;)

Valeria may not have been the girl in the pictures, but she did look good, even without make-up. She looked even better naked. :) Even though her tits were fake, they felt fleshy & looked entirely real. Top notch boob job! :D With a great ass, and plenty of tattoos, Valeria was rocking the porn star look. :)

The performance didn't quite match the looks. Valeria had sweet lips, but tongue access was restricted. The BJ was covered. But she was a good fuck & those spectacular tits were lotsa fun! :)

Loso

Loso69
08-14-17, 18:06
Next up was Colombian Mariana, who charged the standard 100 USD, and looked exactly like her escort pictures. Mariana had a super sexy & rock hard body, with pert titties. I like! :)

When I wanted to kiss Mariana after licking her sweet pussy, she pushed her lips together. It's cruel to be punished for a good deed. ;) Since her ad explicitly promised OWO, I insisted on a BBBJ. Mariana inspected my dick from up close, spit on it a few times, then went for it. :) She continued sucking my dick after applying a condom. I gasped as my dick disappeared further & further down her throat. Mariana was an amazing deep throat artist! :D I loved the way she danced on my dick as well. Great girl! ;)

This is Mariana's old escort ad:
http://panama2.wanuncios.com/nueva-mariana-[CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901)-18-anos-micha-estrechita-culo-virgen-sitio-privado-195-840451.html

Loso

Loso69
08-14-17, 18:11
My very 1st night in Panama, after I'd finished dinner, my eyes were fixated on a sexy ash blonde strutting by. I was surprised when Angie came up to my table and introduced herself. I was intent on checking out the talent at Habano's that night, but I got Angie's phone number. :)

When I saved the number, I immediately recognized the WhatsApp profile picture as faceless escort Viviana. When I contacted her the next afternoon, she charged 120 USD (+ 100 USD for anal). Unfortunately, Viviana wouldn't agree to pictures. Shame! :(

As I went grocery shopping after missing my flight, I ran into Viviana on the street. Talking in person, Viviana did agree to model for me. :) The timing was wrong again, but I promised to meet her the next day. Viviana was the 1st girl I contacted after waking up, but she wasn't available until late evening. I eventually met her at the restaurant where we first met. :)

Viviana's face exhibited Asian features, and this 19 yo petite cutie had a splendid little body (no baby) with pert natural titties. Viviana loved having her pussy licked, telling me she came 3x. As her juices were still dripping from my chin, she gave me fiery kisses. Viviana gave a good BBBJ, enthusiastically rode my dick, and was spurring me on to fuck her harder in between bouts of passionate French kissing. Excellent performance! :D

Of the 8 escorts I met in March / April, Viviana is the only girl who's currently active. These are her latest ads:
http://panama.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/viviana-hermosa-chica-muy-linda-69579826/3563723
http://panama.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/hola-mis-amores-me-llamo-viviana-soy-colombiana-y-me-encuentro-en-via-espana-69579826/3789818
http://panama2.wanuncios.com/viviana-dama-de-compania-69579826-totalmente-descomplicada-en-panama-195-832235.html
http://panama2.wanuncios.com/hola-soy-viviana-una-bella-scort-69579826-disponible-via-espana-zona-bancaria-195-833940.html
http://panama2.wanuncios.com/viviana-bella-sexoservidora-en-panama-69579826-disponible-las-24-horas-195-815141.html

Viviana was the 1st girl I talked to in Panama. Ultimately, she was also the last girl I fucked. I'd completed the circle. And this time, I didn't miss my flight. :D

Loso

Loso69
08-14-17, 18:20
Quite a few Panama escorts mention fiesta blanca in their ads. At first, I thought it was a reference to CIM, but Google taught me it was actually the white powder that's Colombia's most famous export product. Since most escorts are Colombian, it doesn't come as a big surprise that they're coca putas. But I still don't see why they should advertise the fact, even call it their specialty. Are they really hoping customers will provide them with nose candy? ;)

Loso69
08-14-17, 18:22
During my 1st stay in Panama, I resided at Tower House Suites, within easy walking distance of Habano's. At 52.65 USD / night (1 person; all taxes included) for a studio apartment with kitchenette, it was great value. ;) When I met my final visitor (Karen) in the lobby, the receptionist informed me I would have to pay a 24.50 USD chica fee, because the girl hadn't been registered when I originally checked in. When I checked out a few hours later, the same receptionist was still on duty. Luckily, I was only charged a chica fee for 1 out of my 4 visitors. I guess it depends on the receptionist on duty at the time. ;)

Returning to Panama, I stayed at Hyatt Place, which is a real class act. At 74.80 USD / night (1 person; all taxes included) for a room with a separate sitting area (equivalent to a junior suite in many hotels), it was also good value. Even though my reservation was for a single person, I didn't pay any chica fees for my 4 visitors. Unfortunately, that seems to have changed recently.

After missing my flight, I couldn't get a good deal at the Hyatt, so I checked back in at Tower House Suites. I only paid 48 USD (2 people; all taxes included) for a budget double room, but was still given a studio apartment with kitchenette, similar to the room on my previous stay. And, despite 3 visitors in a single day, there were no chica fees to be paid. :)

Loso69
08-14-17, 18:25
Delicias y Balcon Paisa, just around the corner from Habano's (on Calle Ricardo Arias) is a nice little restaurant. Only open for dinner, it's associated with the Hotel San Roque, where Habano's chicas fuck local punters cheating on their wife. :D I enjoyed the carne a la plancha con papas fritas. Panama beers are 2 USD.

Habano's chicas eat there too, so you should have some eye candy, and you might even meet your dream girl. ;) It's where I first met Viviana. :)

SJ2343
08-16-17, 00:23
Hey,

Just wanted to know if there any other hotel recommendations to check out to avoid this dum Chica fee that they started implementing at the Hyatt. I was out there in during the first week of May and it was a good time overall. Loved how convenient it was to walk to the Hyatt from Habanos and just walking straight in with no chica fee or issue now. It kinda Sucks how things can change so quickly. Panama overall is fun spot just not much day time action so you got to rack up them contacts either at Habanos or Vente which I have feel has slowly declined from the years past.

Jbj64
08-16-17, 14:49
Someone else had posted a TA review saying that there were lots of escorts at the Hotel Metro, so I am guessing they are chica friendly, have no idea if or what they charge as a fee and in the same area as Veneto.


Hey,

Just wanted to know if there any other hotel recommendations to check out to avoid this dum Chica fee that they started implementing at the Hyatt. I was out there in during the first week of May and it was a good time overall. Loved how convenient it was to walk to the Hyatt from Habanos and just walking straight in with no chica fee or issue now. It kinda Sucks how things can change so quickly. Panama overall is fun spot just not much day time action so you got to rack up them contacts either at Habanos or Vente which I have feel has slowly declined from the years past.

Kosher Kowboy
08-16-17, 16:16
Well I am off to Germany to donate Euros to the tarts from E Europe and hopefully not get locked up and fined 50,000 Euros for getting my dick sucked bare or AO if I can get lucky again. Seems the cat is out of the bag and the BBBJ is alive and well. I hope my fellow mongers in PTY have the same good fortune of BBBJ's. The reason for this post is to toss out to you all who are there or going the sentiments of a Panamanian hooker. The one I saw has stayed in touch via What'sApp and I will fuck her next time if there is a next time. Business is very bad for all of them now but she made enough she said to go to the country for a few weeks with her family. However, she expressed disgust for the Venezuelan, Colombian and Cuban ladies. From the Panamanian hookers point of view and this was also expressed to me from the other Panamanian I saw that she too hates the other 3 nationalities. The Colombians are the best looking in all their minds but the most arrogant, hustle the guys, hog their attention and many guys bite at their prices taking money out of the other 3 girls pockets. The Colombians and the Panamanians both despise the presence of the Venezuelans and Cubans as they will cut the market as conditions are so bad there in their home countries some are on VISA'a and have to make as much as they can in X amount of time while others are there illegally until they get caught or whenever. So you basically have four competing nationalities with the Colombians asking the most, Panamanians next and at the bottom you have the Venezuelans and the Cubans. Bottom line, buyers market and it is a great time to simply (if you want a Colombian) to play the card ' no thank you, you are very pretty but there is a Venezuelan who will zimmer with me for less but thank you' and do that until the Colombian comes down and keep in mind one other member here has already said he recognizes them from Medellin / Bogota where they fuck for less so any offer you give them is more than they are used too. If they say no tell them ' Fuck You' or ' Vete a la mierda' but that might get you slapped in the face. Tell the Venezuelan / Cuban you think she is very pretty you met a beautiful Colombian you saw the other night for X, they sucked your dick bare, stayed extra time and you think it might be your best value and suddenly she will come down. The same bargaining chip for price also goes with the CBJ to the BBBJ just say ' but the others suck bareback '.

Ok gents, just wanted to share and I found the above to be true too. Keep in mind, the above is simply my personal opinion and reinforced with the opinions of a frustrated hooker who tells me she made 1/2 the usual she does this summer and blames it on all the Venez / Cub and Colombians as well as the slow summer. Take the above info as food for thought, not fact and hopefully all of you get the best deals possible and the best service possible at a price you like. Now I am off to Germany to beat them down from their greedy 100 E requests to 50 E as usual or they can go fuck themselves and I am on to the next girl, eventually one always bites! And one last tidbit from me; wait an hour, turn the first girl down (sends message to others you aren't a sucker and the reason you always wait an hour UNLESS you find one you really like is a golden rule I have used for decades.).


" No matter where you play in the world you wait an hour, the best girls are usually always in back getting fucked making money and the best girls to fuck are the happy ones making money USUALLY they are in better good moods not always and more often than not give better service."


Just be patient, within an hour or so you will be amazed as girls get better looking as they return with freshly fucked pussies ready to go again that is when you pounce. Be an opportunist, opportunity in Panama is sky high for the guys now. Good luck! Buen viaje!

KC.

Hacke Beck
08-16-17, 18:06
LAST Wednesday 10-12 AVAILABLE.

THEY SIT AT THE BAR DRINKING SANGRIA.

Jbj64
09-10-17, 00:28
I flew in late Friday and have a room at the metro hotel. Good news it is 41 a night, bad new the rooms are really small had to ask for a towel tried to get 2 towels but no luck.

I am more a GFE guy, was married 22 yrs. I used CC and SA. I got some good feedback from a few ladies on SA so I set a date up for once I landed Fri. Night. She said it was raining too hard, but 30 min later got a WhatsApp message saying on the way. I meet her out front in her car and we go to dinner. After back to my hotel for dessert. I had to ask nicely for BBBJ and she agreed. Got her to have multiple O with my tongue. We agreed to 100 HR which is the going rate for the bar hookers but this lady does it for fun and extra spending money. She has a day job, I did see work access card.

So today we do some touring around Casio viejo get a nice dinner and we go back to the small hotel room and she keeps wanting more after 2 I was done. Got her to have a few more O with my mouth. Lots of DFK with her too, which I find more fun.

So I have not been to Habanos or Venetto and am all drained to care. Also don't like negotiating for sex.

So this is not your typical monger trip but am by myself and enjoy having someone around.

FWIW it has been pouring rain each night and in the morning.

I am going to Medellin after panama, so I am looking forward to those ladies. I did buy some vic secrets panties and a few sprays. Each were about $5 or less than a Starbucks and the girl was super excited getting un regalo gift.

Frankfurt
09-12-17, 00:44
CC? SA? Please elaborate.


I used CC and SA. I got some good feedback from a few ladies on SA so I set a date up for once I landed Fri. Night.

Alex Dee
09-12-17, 01:45
Guys, need some help on chica friendly hotels. Taking a last minute trip and will be there on Fri. So please help / advise. Thanks.

HarvestBoi
09-12-17, 04:12
This is no doubt true. My problem is the waiting for the best ones is so fucking boring LOL.




" No matter where you play in the world you wait an hour, the best girls are usually always in back getting fucked making money and the best girls to fuck are the happy ones making money USUALLY they are in better good moods not always and more often than not give better service."


Just be patient, within an hour or so you will be amazed as girls get better looking as they return with freshly fucked pussies ready to go again that is when you pounce. Be an opportunist, opportunity in Panama is sky high for the guys now. Good luck! Buen viaje!

KC.

Guerinto
09-13-17, 03:21
CC? SA? Please elaborate.Pretty sure SA is Seeking Arrangement and I am guessing CC is Colombian Cupid.

Jbj64
09-14-17, 02:49
This is what I saw last Sunday it was early 8 pm, walked from Metro hotel to Venetto casino, on the corner in a patio restaurant across from Venetto a couple ladies. Then went into Venetto and there was 2 ladies, ones sat at my table and we talked. She was from Cali Colombia, not California. She had big natural tits and she would give oral natural. She wanted 150 I said it was too early. Left and walked to Habanos I was the only customer but there were 3 ladies. Only 1 came up to me so we talked, she was a Panamanian, not black. She was thin, so I'm a get to the point guy ask for a price she says 150 I say 100 we agreed on 120 including oral natural includ the. Took a taxi back to the metro hotel. The front desk took copy of her ID we went upstairs for fun. No additional chica fee.

One thing I found interesting in her purse she had a pair of Sandles and some shorts for her walk back to Habanos. Makes sense she could walk faster and not be in her hooker dress for the walk.

Next post Medellin.

RichardScott
09-15-17, 00:54
This is what I saw last Sunday it was early 8 pm, walked from Metro hotel to Venetto casino, on the corner in a patio restaurant across from Venetto a couple ladies. Then went into Venetto and there was 2 ladies, ones sat at my table and we talked. She was from Cali Colombia, not California. She had big natural tits and she would give oral natural. She wanted 150 I said it was too early. Left and walked to Habanos I was the only customer but there were 3 ladies. Only 1 came up to me so we talked, she was a Panamanian, not black. She was thin, so I'm a get to the point guy ask for a price she says 150 I say 100 we agreed on 120 including oral natural includ the. Took a taxi back to the metro hotel. The front desk took copy of her ID we went upstairs for fun. No additional chica fee.

One thing I found interesting in her purse she had a pair of Sandles and some shorts for her walk back to Habanos. Makes sense she could walk faster and not be in her hooker dress for the walk.

Next post Medellin.She probably has those shorts and sandals in order to not attract attention from cops, I've known girls who have been harassed and "voluntarily" raped by local police. Since prostitutes need a work permit as 'alternadoras' and they also need to have their weekly health permit up to date. They must submit to weekly screenings at a clinic (the girls from online agencies, online ads and street girls like the ones found at Habanos, Veneto, etc don't do this. Only the ones at strip clubs and massage parlors do). One of them told me she had to be with two cops in the back of their pickup truck or be deported from the country, so she complied. If the girl is Panamanian (like the one you were with) it's obviously more difficult since she can't be deported, but can still be harassed and could at least spend the night at the police station. You should have given her an extra $5 for a taxi or ordered her an Uber. That's what I usually do.

Alex Dee
09-16-17, 02:06
Pretty sure SA is Seeking Arrangement and I am guessing CC is Colombian Cupid.Guerinto has exceeded their stored private messages quota and cannot accept further messages until they clear some space. Tries to PM you with my number but you inbox is full.

Loso69
09-17-17, 05:09
Just checked the latest Panama escort ads (just to find new pics of my girls ;)). Scarlet & Carolina are back. Viviana is still in town. All 3 girls come highly recommended (see earlier reports). ;)

Scarlet: http://panama2.wanuncios.com/hermosa-peliroja-te-sacare-toda-tu-lechera-con-mi-culito-195-978619.html

Carolina aka Alison: http://panama2.wanuncios.com/recien-llegada-en-panama-llamame-67254287-195-989142.html

Viviana: http://panama2.wanuncios.com/disponible-viviana-en-panama-via-espana-69579826-195-815913.html

Loso

TellAll
09-17-17, 12:07
Just checked the latest Panama escort ads (just to find new pics of my girls ;)). Scarlet & Carolina are back. Viviana is still in town. All 3 girls come highly recommended (see earlier reports). ;)

Scarlet: http://panama2.wanuncios.com/hermosa-peliroja-te-sacare-toda-tu-lechera-con-mi-culito-195-978619.html

Carolina aka Alison: http://panama2.wanuncios.com/recien-llegada-en-panama-llamame-67254287-195-989142.html

Viviana: http://panama2.wanuncios.com/disponible-viviana-en-panama-via-espana-69579826-195-815913.html

LosoHow much did they charge?

Loso69
09-19-17, 02:12
How much did they charge?Read earlier reports!

Rodeo9112
09-19-17, 14:27
Can anyone recommend a Panamanian Immigration Attorney who can assist with processing the paperwork for either the Pensionado or Friendly Countries resident visa at a good price, and competent? Thanks!

Guerinto
09-20-17, 22:46
This place is the worst hotel I have ever had the displeasure of patronizing in my extensive years of traveling. Their whole objective seems to be to antagonize their customers. How a place can essentially be running a brothel, yet have a chica fee that is 80% of the room rate I paid is just ridiculous.

My first night I talked my way out of the fee. Then for 3 days I had a lady I met online staying with me. No problem there. Was never questioned and stayed out of the casino. We came in and out using the ground floor elevators near reception.

Then today I had a lady visit me that I met on Tinder and she just came up to my room. We're getting down to business, then a knock on my door. I yelled out no thank you and continued with what I was doing. Then he knocks again and announces he is security. I yell I don't need any security. Then the phone rings. "Sir, you have a woman in your room, you have to pay. " I snapped at this point, told her I booked for 2 and was not paying anything and said good bye and unplugged the phone.

We finish up and then decide to go for lunch and drinks. Wouldn't you know that the security f**ker is waiting outside the elevator on the ground floor and blocks our path to exit and insists we go with him. After trying to reason with these idiots, I blasted them for their poor customer service and incompetence. I even suggested she call the police and I was leaving and she was not getting a penny more for a room I already paid for. Then she says the girl would not be allowed to leave. Well, now they have me as I am not a jerk that will involve the lady in my battle, so I threw my credit card at the lady and told her to bill it. I told her to expect a letter to management / ownership, and bad reviews everywhere I can post. The $42.50 USD they extorted from me will cost them a lot more. I also asked why this policy was not disclosed on check-in, or on booking.com. Of course she did not have an answer.

What a buzzkill. I leave Friday and if I come back to Panama I will get a well reviewed hotel by the membership here and not this rip-off establishment. I might even get an apartment, which is normally what I do when I travel, but I figured for 1 week a hotel would be fine. WRONG!

On the positive side, I had a blast with the non-pro for 3 days and had a couple of other pro sessions. Habanos is awesome and the chicas at the Veneto Casino are cool too. I will be in Cali, Colombia at the same time as one of them, so we will hook up there too.

Hopefully this is a coherent review. Even after lunch and 3 Balboas, I am still so # pissed! If not for the girl, I would have insisted they call the police. Basically this hotel uses words like policy and security to extort their customers and they are quite vigilant about finding their extra fee money. How the hell do they find out that a girl dressed in jeans and a normal looking shirt came up to my room? Are they watching on camera? Did a cleaning lady on the floor rat us out? Did someone follow her up?

What a joke of a hotel. Besides the ridiculous "security" restrictions, the hotel is old, the air conditioning temperature control does not work well, several electrical outlets do not work, the bed is not comfortable, the carpets are old as is the stained furniture. I was willing to live with 2. 5 or 3 stars for $54 a night, but the poor customer services puts me well over the top.

If you want to have fun, DO NOT STAY HERE. They are so hypocritical it is nauseating.

EDIT: I almost forgot. Second time housekeeping did not change the towels, so pretty pathetic. I also enjoyed the 9 AM Saturday morning wakeup call at my door by the cleaning staff. What is the point of a do not disturb sign if you're going to knock anyway? Just incompetent.

Crazy Jim Wood
09-20-17, 23:29
She seemed to quote lowest rate of the several lawyers I contacted from a list I found at the US Embassy, seemed to know her stuff, patiently answered my many questions although I did not go through with the visa. I will mention that when you form the company that is necessary to get the Friendly Country visa, take in to account that you may need to pay fees to the legal firm related to the company that will come in addition to the fees you pay for the visa. So it is a good idea to ask about the start up and the recurring fees of the company, and not just the visa fees.

gj@legalinvestsolutions.com
Gisela Juliao.
Attorney at Law.
LEGAL INVEST SOLUTIONS.
Phone: (507) 360.5566.
Fax: (507) 360.5560.
www.legalinvestsolutions.com

Can anyone recommend a Panamanian Immigration Attorney who can assist with processing the paperwork for either the Pensionado or Friendly Countries resident visa at a good price, and competent? Thanks!

Kryptonite123
09-21-17, 03:28
I will be there next week on Wednesday to Sunday. I booked Sortis since they have some poker action.


This place is the worst hotel I have ever had the displeasure of patronizing in my extensive years of traveling. Their whole objective seems to be to antagonize their customers. How a place can essentially be running a brothel, yet have a chica fee that is 80% of the room rate I paid is just ridiculous.

My first night I talked my way out of the fee. Then for 3 days I had a lady I met online staying with me. No problem there. Was never questioned and stayed out of the casino. We came in and out using the ground floor elevators near reception.

Then today I had a lady visit me that I met on Tinder and she just came up to my room. We're getting down to business, then a knock on my door. I yelled out no thank you and continued with what I was doing. Then he knocks again and announces he is security. I yell I don't need any security. Then the phone rings. "Sir, you have a woman in your room, you have to pay. " I snapped at this point, told her I booked for 2 and was not paying anything and said good bye and unplugged the phone.

Dbufster
09-21-17, 08:33
So as a long time lurker like others I have decided it is time to give back. Business brings me here regularly for over a year so have sampled much In my time here.

Annoyingly I had a much longer post before but when I went to preview it the site made me log back in so lost it all. This is more to the point and if anyone has questions just ask as I may have mentioned it in my previous write up.

Accommodation.

If more than 3 nights in Panama or in a group just get an airbnb. No chica fee and no walk of fame / shame the next morning. Any decent condo will have security and front desk in case that is a concern.

Travel.

Detest the F'ing yellow taxis. Too many issues to list. Uber isn't perfect (GPS hit and miss) but its super cheap and convenient as long as you have internet. Metro and busses only for the adventurous.

Night life.

Casco Viejo (Old Town) is where everyone seems to go for a night out of partying. Plenty or restaurants, bars and club in the district and unlike most of Panama you can walk around between the places. It can be pretentious and definitely well over priced but its also tourist central so what do you expect. Also if you are expecting world class night life, think again but it can be fun especially if on a short holiday. San Francisco deserves a mention but this much tamer area than Casco in terms of atmosphere, mostly expats and locals but plenty of restaurants and a few good bars.

Mongering.

Down to the serious business. Ill loosely rank places from my experience.

Habanos. Undisputed No 1. Number of very hot women and you can talk to them and feel them out. One thing to mention when I first started to come to Panama I was paying $200 for a trip back to my place with CBJ. Now I pay $100 (sometimes $80) with maybe a taxi tip and BBBJ. You got to stand your ground and a good option will land in your lap. Paying the silly prices some girls quote does not guarantee any better service and you end up cultivating diva attitudes.

Bocatarena. OK OK, yes this is for your harder core road warrior monger. It smells, has some hags I wouldn't touch with a strangers dick, cleanliness including in the room out back where sex goes down has a lot to be desired and while I can fit in I can see why some of my melanin challenged friends may get a little nervous. But can't beat value for money at $20 for 15 minutes of sex (15 to girl and 5 for room), drinks are more than half what you pay at Habanos, there are some actually good looking women there unless a bad day which can happen. Also as long as you don't go wandering around the area behind the place its very safe. And best of all you can even take girls out back to your place from here. I've done it for $50. Grabbed some drinks, food and bit of marching powder if so inclined and then back to my place for the real party.

La Palace-High End strip club. Way overpriced but I actually think the girls are hottest here. I'm sure its the mood lighting or those sexy white outfits but I do pop by on occasion. If its busy then its good option to grab some drinks before settling in to Habanos. However, takeout is $300-$00 and given for more than half price that you can get a similar quality girl at Habanos. Can always arrange to meet a girl at another time. In my early days I did takeout but not worth it at there price.

Veneto. Lost a lot of its lustre and fallen down hill but its an institution. Also some hot girls do roll through fairly regularly to scope clients especially in evenings. Also what I like about here is you can generally hang out the bar and meet new people. Would never stay here though, the building condition and surly staff concern me too much about paying for a room.

Club Ashe. Just a club that opens late that working girls frequent. Inside is mostly tables so unless you come with girls or group its really awkward to speak in there. Outside much better and best of all they have a late kitchen. Sometimes after a night out I just pass by to get some food to takeout.

Elite. Another high end strip club. I actually prefer La palace but then I love the Latin Bomba Queens. What I like about Elite is when I was there they had a $30 all you can drink offer. Not sure if every night. But if I had local wingmen would check it out more and try and talk to some of the girls to meet up later while enjoying a tipple.

La Mayor, La Nueva Gruta Azul & La bombanera. First one is next to La bocatrena in Casco Viejo but its normally dead with really loud music and sometimes crazily they have a cover charge! Probably while its also cleaner than its neighbour as has less traffic. The last 2 are further out in the city where mostly locals live and I wouldn't recommend the visit unless in those areas. I checked because thought I could be missing out. I really wasn't.

Hope this helps someone like how I have been helped scrolling through old reports.

Also if anyone knows actual regular clubs where I can pick up hot local women (the unicorn, LOL) let me know. I find the clubs like Casa Jaguar, casa casco, indenito, hard rock, etc way too stuffy and pretentious. Everyone trying too hard. I want a spot where I can try my luck and awful Espanaol on some regular (I. E. Not rich) local or expat, Maybe she wants a little compensation for her time or just drinks. I'm easy.

YippieKayay
09-22-17, 01:24
Veneto. Lost a lot of its lustre and fallen down hill but its an institution. Also some hot girls do roll through fairly regularly to scope clients especially in evenings. Also what I like about here is you can generally hang out the bar and meet new people. Would never stay here though, the building condition and surly staff concern me too much about paying for a room.
Thanks for the report with all the venues. Not much has changed!

I actually think I first stepped into the Veneto three years ago (2014?) I'd have to check my posts here. They had just started charging their insane chica fee (approximately $50). It is an institution. The hookers would show up nineish and arrive through the back. They would only allow so many at a time too with a guard posted out back letting them in. I remember smoking cigarettes with a chica in the back area. She wasn't a hooker and had a real job. Unfortunately that woman also had a serious gambling problem. Before long she had introduced me to a local group of Panamanian degenerates who gambled far too much.

You are absolutely correct about holding out to $100 for short time. These chicas are making BANK at those prices. Most Colombian hookers don't earn that much back home. Half of that is more typical.

Viajando Musico
09-22-17, 19:38
I just booked to return on the 12th of Oct. For a few days. Stayed in Hyatt last year, but things have changed a bit over there. Now they charge chica fee, not a big deal, but could ruin the play mood for some. I checked on Airbnb, but availability is scarce for my time frame, and not much cheaper than hotels. Members here have been asking chica friendly hotels in the area, but no concrete answers was found.

Other than Habano and Veneto, I had a great time last time on the venues less ventured by our members and had written a report about them. I plan to visit the same, but now with equipped with more updated info. I will also try something new. One of them is Club Ashe. I did visit this place once on my last trip, but went too early, and saw just a few chicas sitting by themselves, and no customers. I know this is a place some chicas hang out after their duty at Habano or Veneto. I will also visit Red Lion close to Hard Rock. Haven't set foot on this place yet, hope it is worth it. Still about 2 weeks before my departure. Hope I can gather more update on these places.

I will also return to La Mayor and Bocatoranea to collect some contacts for later encounters. I had good experiences in both places, and hope to repeat the same. Bocatoranea is a dump, and the place stinks, but there are diamonds in the rough for adventurers, and I found chicas in both places here have better attitude than their counterparts in Veneto and Habano.

I will also ask some taxi drivers for recommendation, especially those work at night. They all know a few that they give rides to. I didn't have good experiences with massage parlors, so will skip that this time and maybe try to communicate with some chicas advertise themselves on Wanuncio.com before my trip. Did I leave anything out?

NaveAsian1012
09-24-17, 16:01
How much did they charge?I'm visiting Panama Thursday 28th for the first time. I want to meet with Carolina / Alison so bad. What is the best way to reach her / find her? And as a first timer in Panama should I check out the Veneto and book a room for that night or find somebody to make an outcall to my hotel?

Guerinto
09-25-17, 00:22
And as a first timer in Panama should I check out the Veneto and book a room for that night or find somebody to make an outcall to my hotel?DO NOT book a room at the Veneto Hotel, unless you like knocking at your door and your phone ringing while you are having fun with a lady. They are extremely aggressive in preventing sexual fun with a lady, even one they admit to the Casino and if you get the lady to your room, they will be after you and will prevent the lady from leaving if you refuse to pay.

Find some other place to stay if you want to have fun.

The ladies that do work there are fun, just don't try to take any of them upstairs. My story is based own my own personal experience earlier this week when they extorted $42.80 USD from me.

Kryptonite123
09-25-17, 08:36
I will be there Wednesday. If you are traveling alone and need a wingman let me know.


I'm visiting Panama Thursday 28th for the first time. I want to meet with Carolina / Alison so bad. What is the best way to reach her / find her? And as a first timer in Panama should I check out the Veneto and book a room for that night or find somebody to make an outcall to my hotel?===============================================

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DarkSide99
09-26-17, 20:36
Accommodation.

If more than 3 nights in Panama or in a group just get an airbnb. No chica fee and no walk of fame / shame the next morning. Any decent condo will have security and front deskCan anyone recommend Airbnb condos that won't give a hard time.

With bringing girls over? I know a lot have security and I am wondering This may be an issue.

DarkSide99
09-27-17, 03:10
Can anyone recommend Airbnb condos that won't give a hard time.

With bringing girls over? I know a lot have security and I am wondering This may be an issue.Sorry about the grammar and spelling.

Can anyone recommend a condo that allows you to bring girls over?

I know a lot of condos have security and I am wondering if the condo owners give them instructions to only allow registered guests to enter.

NaveAsian1012
09-28-17, 17:09
Thanks Kryptonite! Nice of you but I'm getting there tonight on 28th. Going to check out Habanos!


I will be there Wednesday. If you are traveling alone and need a wingman let me know.

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Jbj64
09-28-17, 20:08
I stayed at the Metro Hotel and they did not hassle me or charge me to bring a lady upstairs. Just up the street from the Venetto Casino.


DO NOT book a room at the Veneto Hotel, unless you like knocking at your door and your phone ringing while you are having fun with a lady. They are extremely aggressive in preventing sexual fun with a lady, even one they admit to the Casino and if you get the lady to your room, they will be after you and will prevent the lady from leaving if you refuse to pay.

Find some other place to stay if you want to have fun.

The ladies that do work there are fun, just don't try to take any of them upstairs. My story is based own my own personal experience earlier this week when they extorted $42.80 USD from me.

Kryptonite123
09-28-17, 23:00
I will be there tonight myself.


Thanks Kryptonite! Nice of you but I'm getting there tonight on 28th. Going to check out Habanos!

JoseNosay
10-01-17, 15:00
This place is the worst hotel I have ever had the displeasure of patronizing in my extensive years of traveling. Their whole objective seems to be to antagonize their customers. How a place can essentially be running a brothel, yet have a chica fee that is 80% of the room rate I paid is just ridiculous.

My first night I talked my way out of the fee. Then for 3 days I had a lady I met online staying with me. No problem there. Was never questioned and stayed out of the casino. We came in and out using the ground floor elevators near reception.

Then today I had a lady visit me that I met on Tinder and she just came up to my room. We're getting down to business, then a knock on my door. I yelled out no thank you and continued with what I was doing. Then he knocks again and announces he is security. I yell I don't need any security. Then the phone rings. "Sir, you have a woman in your room, you have to pay. " I snapped at this point, told her I booked for 2 and was not paying anything and said good bye and unplugged the phone.

We finish up and then decide to go for lunch and drinks. Wouldn't you know that the security f**ker is waiting outside the elevator on the ground floor and blocks our path to exit and insists we go with him. After trying to reason with these idiots, I blasted them for their poor customer service and incompetence. I even suggested she call the police and I was leaving and she was not getting a penny more for a room I already paid for. Then she says the girl would not be allowed to leave. Well, now they have me as I am not a jerk that will involve the lady in my battle, so I threw my credit card at the lady and told her to bill it. I told her to expect a letter to management / ownership, and bad reviews everywhere I can post. The $42.50 USD they extorted from me will cost them a lot more. I also asked why this policy was not disclosed on check-in, or on booking.com. Of course she did not have an answer..Excellent review, but you have to take videos, photos of receipts & the room if you want to correct them. Many times the hotel owners are unaware of this practices, so when you have evidence to show. They will fire everyone responsible & make sure they make it up to you. The last thing a hotel owner wants is this type of thuggery. Thanks again for the review.

Guerinto
10-04-17, 02:42
Excellent review, but you have to take videos, photos of receipts & the room if you want to correct them. Many times the hotel owners are unaware of this practices, so when you have evidence to show. They will fire everyone responsible & make sure they make it up to you. The last thing a hotel owner wants is this type of thuggery. Thanks again for the review.Thanks JoseNosay! I do have a copy of my receipt, the name of the lady behind the desk who extorted this money from me and the name of the security guy. I found the hotel is owned by Silver Entertainment, LLC and I plan on emailing the hotel and the owners in addition to the poor reviews I have left on various boards.

I will also be writing booking.com and also writing slightly edited reviews on Tripadvisor and any other large travel review sites. I promised the lady I will get my money's worth and I intend to live up to that promise. I don't expect my money back or any other compensation, but my hope is I will have cost them much more than the $42.80 they stole from me.

In the meantime, I am focused on preparing for my 2 week trip to Cali, Colombia on Saturday.

Mfins
10-04-17, 06:14
This place is the worst hotel I have ever had the displeasure of patronizing in my extensive years of traveling. Their whole objective seems to be to antagonize their customers. How a place can essentially be running a brothel, yet have a chica fee that is 80% of the room rate I paid is just ridiculous.

My first night I talked my way out of the fee. Then for 3 days I had a lady I met online staying with me. No problem there. Was never questioned and stayed out of the casino. We came in and out using the ground floor elevators near reception.

Then today I had a lady visit me that I met on Tinder and she just came up to my room. We're getting down to business, then a knock on my door. I yelled out no thank you and continued with what I was doing. Then he knocks again and announces he is security. I yell I don't need any security. Then the phone rings. "Sir, you have a woman in your room, you have to pay. " I snapped at this point, told her I booked for 2 and was not paying anything and said good bye and unplugged the phone.

We finish up and then decide to go for lunch and drinks. Wouldn't you know that the security f**ker is waiting outside the elevator on the ground floor and blocks our path to exit and insists we go with him. After trying to reason with these idiots, I blasted them for their poor customer service and incompetence. I even suggested she call the police and I was leaving and she was not getting a penny more for a room I already paid for. Then she says the girl would not be allowed to leave. Well, now they have me as I am not a jerk that will involve the lady in my battle, so I threw my credit card at the lady and told her to bill it. I told her to expect a letter to management / ownership, and bad reviews everywhere I can post. The $42.50 USD they extorted from me will cost them a lot more. I also asked why this policy was not disclosed on check-in, or on booking.com. Of course she did not have an answer.

What a buzzkill. I leave Friday and if I come back to Panama I will get a well reviewed hotel by the membership here and not this rip-off establishment. I might even get an apartment, which is normally what I do when I travel, but I figured for 1 week a hotel would be fine. WRONG!

On the positive side, I had a blast with the non-pro for 3 days and had a couple of other pro sessions. Habanos is awesome and the chicas at the Veneto Casino are cool too. I will be in Cali, Colombia at the same time as one of them, so we will hook up there too.

Hopefully this is a coherent review. Even after lunch and 3 Balboas, I am still so # pissed! If not for the girl, I would have insisted they call the police. Basically this hotel uses words like policy and security to extort their customers and they are quite vigilant about finding their extra fee money. How the hell do they find out that a girl dressed in jeans and a normal looking shirt came up to my room? Are they watching on camera? Did a cleaning lady on the floor rat us out? Did someone follow her up?

What a joke of a hotel. Besides the ridiculous "security" restrictions, the hotel is old, the air conditioning temperature control does not work well, several electrical outlets do not work, the bed is not comfortable, the carpets are old as is the stained furniture. I was willing to live with 2. 5 or 3 stars for $54 a night, but the poor customer services puts me well over the top.

If you want to have fun, DO NOT STAY HERE. They are so hypocritical it is nauseating.

EDIT: I almost forgot. Second time housekeeping did not change the towels, so pretty pathetic. I also enjoyed the 9 AM Saturday morning wakeup call at my door by the cleaning staff. What is the point of a do not disturb sign if you're going to knock anyway? Just incompetent.I completely understand where you are coming from. Many times I have been stopped by the front desk / security and asked to pay an extra "guest fee" Coming back at 4 am, just ready to go upstairs and, I am stopped hassled and asked to pay $25-$125 for my guest. This has happened at the Hard Rock, Intercontinental, Veneto, etc. Also, in multiple countries numerous times. I have argued until the police are called. Shouted, begged, cursed, pleaded etc. I have learned 99% of the time it does no good and, only gets your blood boiling and can effect the enjoyment of the trip. Now if it happens I pay it shrug my shoulders and tell my self " I will never stay here again". I do as much homework as I can before traveling and booking a room so I know the rules but, If I am caught off guard I just pay the dumb fee and move on. I have come to realize its not worth the fight.

RacShack
10-04-17, 07:47
Thanks JoseNosay! I do have a copy of my receipt, the name of the lady behind the desk who extorted this money from me and the name of the security guy. I found the hotel is owned by Silver Entertainment, LLC and I plan on emailing the hotel and the owners in addition to the poor reviews I have left on various boards.

I will also be writing booking.com and also writing slightly edited reviews on Tripadvisor and any other large travel review sites. I promised the lady I will get my money's worth and I intend to live up to that promise. I don't expect my money back or any other compensation, but my hope is I will have cost them much more than the $42.80 they stole from me.

In the meantime, I am focused on preparing for my 2 week trip to Cali, Colombia on Saturday.I thought a few years ago it went into receivership and run buy the government don't know what happened after that, but I do agree the customer service was never good at the place.

Guerinto
10-04-17, 14:11
I completely understand where you are coming from. Many times I have been stopped by the front desk / security and asked to pay an extra "guest fee" Coming back at 4 am, just ready to go upstairs and, I am stopped hassled and asked to pay $25-$125 for my guest. This has happened at the Hard Rock, Intercontinental, Veneto, etc. Also, in multiple countries numerous times. I have argued until the police are called. Shouted, begged, cursed, pleaded etc. I have learned 99% of the time it does no good and, only gets your blood boiling and can effect the enjoyment of the trip. Now if it happens I pay it shrug my shoulders and tell my self " I will never stay here again". I do as much homework as I can before traveling and booking a room so I know the rules but, If I am caught off guard I just pay the dumb fee and move on. I have come to realize its not worth the fight.Fair enough. I have no problem paying fees if they are disclosed at the time of booking so I can make an informed decision on whether the all-inclusive price is fair for the value I am getting. As an example, my hotel in Cali says 19 % VAT is excluded and COP 6,500 Property service charge per person per night is excluded. Knowing this, I booked anyway after calculating the all-in price. These fees add $240 to a 2-week stay, but I still felt the overall price was worth it and I booked anyway. If they try to add any additional charges, then I will repeat what I have done and will do for Veneto.

All I ask is for these hotels to be honest about their fees and policies. After all, this is an exchange of space for money, with an understanding I will not damage the property. It is not a complicated transaction. If this hotel in Cali is annoying too, I may go back to apartment renting, where I have never had issues. The hotels complain about Air BnB and other similar companies, but they do it to themselves with their greed and disregard for their customers.

Viajando Musico
10-04-17, 20:28
Has anybody stayed in this hotel before. Another member posted that they charge $25 chica fee, not a deal killer. How is the hotel itself? Their rate is lower than Hyatt now and the location is even better for me, right between Veneto and Habano with lots of restaurants in the area. Will be in Panama next week for 4 days.

Guerinto
10-05-17, 00:59
Has anybody stayed in this hotel before. Another member posted that they charge $25 chica fee, not a deal killer. How is the hotel itself? Their rate is lower than Hyatt now and the location is even better for me, right between Veneto and Habano with lots of restaurants in the area. Will be in Panama next week for 4 days.I was in the hotel and in a room in the hotel and it is MUCH nicer than Veneto. I wished I had stayed there instead.

Mfins
10-05-17, 04:18
Fair enough. I have no problem paying fees if they are disclosed at the time of booking so I can make an informed decision on whether the all-inclusive price is fair for the value I am getting. As an example, my hotel in Cali says 19 % VAT is excluded and COP 6,500 Property service charge per person per night is excluded. Knowing this, I booked anyway after calculating the all-in price. These fees add $240 to a 2-week stay, but I still felt the overall price was worth it and I booked anyway. If they try to add any additional charges, then I will repeat what I have done and will do for Veneto.

All I ask is for these hotels to be honest about their fees and policies. After all, this is an exchange of space for money, with an understanding I will not damage the property. It is not a complicated transaction. If this hotel in Cali is annoying too, I may go back to apartment renting, where I have never had issues. The hotels complain about Air BnB and other similar companies, but they do it to themselves with their greed and disregard for their customers.Panama is one of the best countries to rent an apartment short term. Be it VRBO, Home Away, and especially AIRBNB. The prices can't be beat and NO stress over a chica fee.

The issue is many people travel to Panama for business and, on the company dime. So sometimes there is not a choice of where to stay.

Xpartan
10-11-17, 08:31
Panama is one of the best countries to rent an apartment short term. Be it VRBO, Home Away, and especially AIRBNB. The prices can't be beat and NO stress over a chica fee.

The issue is many people travel to Panama for business and, on the company dime. So sometimes there is not a choice of where to stay.I researched vacation rentals in Panama, but found them to be more expensive than hotels, and less than ideally located for most parts. Maybe that was my dates, I don't know. In general, I always preferred vacation rentals in expensive markets, but for PC I didn't feel like it was worth it.

Viajando Musico
10-13-17, 19:04
Somebody asked for an update on these 2 clubs a couple page back, here you go.

I went there last night, and had a blast. Arrived La Boca at around 9:30 PM. First impression, the bar area didn't t stink as bad as last time I was here, and cleaner as well. There were girls of all types from 3 to 8 on my scale. I didn't see anything above 8. But there are certainly some very cute and doable ones. I locked eyes with a cutie from Medellin in the first 10 min. Of my arrival but waited on making move, because I wanted to do more survey. Ran into her again, and with her shy smile I had sensed GFE ahead. Turned out I was correct, very passionate encounter of 4 short sessions upstairs. Cost, $60,40 for the girl, and 20 for the room, $15 per session. I could have done TLN with her, but I didn't want to repeat my mistake from last time where I got involved with the girl on the first night that I couldn't return for other candidates. So just did a test drive with her first. We have been exchanging whatsapp messages this morning. A good possibility I will bring her to my hotel over the weekend. Imported beer is $4, bottled water $2.

Stepped over to La Mayor around 12 AM, not as crowded and much more relaxed atmosphere. Entrance is $3. They have a stage where girls perform strip show every 30 min. Here girls sit with you if you buy them drinks. I met this Venezuelana, an 8 for her incredible body and beautiful face, who is a big drinker, but also fun to be with. Spent 2. 5 hours with her, and we took 6 small pinchers that costs $20 each. At th end close to 2:30 am I took off without taking her upstairs, but I think the short session is $20.

If you have some Spanish skill, I think these 2 clubs are good alternatives to Havano and Veneto. If you come in and out with a taxi, I don't see any concern for safety. The rooms here are filthy, but you can easily pick up #'s from the girls and meet them outside.

Rickter55
10-15-17, 20:56
Monger vet in Costa Rica but monger newbie in Panama city.

1st day, arrived on Wednesday evening checked into the Hyatt. Shit, showered, shaved then went to dinner. Had dinner at Hooters then straight back to the Hyatt (seeing as I was traveling with some non-monger friends) the first night. Everyone went beddy-bye then I headed out solo to the Veneto. Was a little disappointed as it was around 11-12 midnight and only saw around a dozen or so girls. Maybe 1 or 2 nice looking girls and the rest not so nice or average looking. A lot of girls just playing around on their phones and sitting around scratching their asses. Finally was able to get a decent looking Colombian with fake boobies. Older average looking girl. Not into older (middle thirties) girls but I was getting desperate (translation horny) so I pulled her. Negotiated for 2 rounds for $150 no time limit. Took a $3 taxi ride back to the Hyatt, checked her in (front desk made a copy of her passport) and went up. In the room she started to turn or dim the lights and I told her hell no! I want to see everything! She said whatever and took a quick shower and came out in her birthday suit. I saw the reason why she wanted to lower the lighting as she had a huge and flabby ass with cellulite BUT that's the way I like them so no harm or foul! Went to work and she performed like a trooper. BBBJ then covered up then did missionary, doggie, reverse cowgirl you name it. Tried all sorts of positions. DFK throughout. Very passionate throughout. Busted one then a little cuddling to recharge my batteries. Next session once again BBBJ, all different types of positions then watching that big ass jiggling in doggie made me bust. After my 2 sessions were done, she cleaned up and went on her way. Gave her $2 in change for a taxi and went to sleep like a baby. Slept all night and woke up a little early only because I didn't want to miss the killer breakfast that they offer at the Hyatt. You cannot go wrong with the breakfast buffet. They even have a person cooking omelettes made to order. There is something for everyone at this breakfast buffet.

2nd day hooked up with my non-mongering buddies and did the whole tourist thing for the entire day. Paid $30 per person (6 of us guys traveling together) to basically rent our tour guide driver and he took us to the panama canal, casco viejo for some trinket shopping then he drove us to the causeway. Back to panama city and had lunch at a restaurant (sorry can't remember the name) almost right across from the Veneto. Wasn't the greatest lunch but when you're hungry, your hungry. Walked to the Veneto to see the divisional baseball play-offs on their big-screen. Around noon and the casino was completely empty. Just a few hard core gamblers on the tables. By the time we left a few hours later, there were around 5 girls lounging around. The thought of me pulling one didn't even cross my mind as the quality of the girls was nothing to write home about so just left. Back to the Hyatt for a nap then went to the Hard Rock for dinner and to check out their night club on the 56th floor which BTW has a fabulous view of the cities skyline. It opens at 8 pm and there is a $20 entrance fee but figured we were already there so just bit the bullet and paid up. Had a great time as it had a great party scene and vibe. Was a long night so didn't even bother doing my monger thing as I was dead tired so just headed back to the Hyatt to go to sleep.

3rd day more of the same, trinket shopping then going to the Albrook mall for even more shopping. Ate some lunch at the mall. Then headed back to the Hyatt for an afternoon nap. Woke up late in the afternoon then all of us crammed into a taxi and headed out to dinner at a Beirut restaurant complete with live music and entertainment (belly dancers). The food was so-so but (for me) the music was way too loud and really couldn't enjoy my meal because of this. Didn't even realize this but when we started to walk back to the Hyatt after dinner, imagine my surprise when I noticed we where walking right past Habanos. I stopped dead in my tracks and told my non-mongering buddies that I'm staying. All of them went back to the Hyatt except for an occasional monger. By this time it was around 10 pm and there were some girls there but not many. We settled into a table and were provided cocktail service.

Now I'm a veteran monger in San Jose and Jaco Costa Rica for many years. But Habanos IMHO has the most beautiful girls that I have ever seen. Makes the Veneto look like a very low end bar in comparison. Around 90% of the girls were breathtaking. Of course you'll see a few clunkers here and there or girls that should not be there or that are way past their prime but the rest of the selection is outstanding. Settled on a 20 ish year old Colombian with real assets. Nothing fake (my personal preference). As soon as we saw each other we just clicked. We started to drink, laugh, converse (I speak fluent Spanish) and basically have a great time. We were downing shot after shot of tequila in addition to cocktails so I'm sure that had an effect. My wingman also hooked up with a girl (again Colombian) who looked like a young Jennifer Connolly the Hollywood actress. She was simply gorgeous. My wingman didn't take long to pull the trigger and off they went to a short term hotel down the block. I on the other hand was having a grand ole time with my gal. We did not leave until 2 am and walked back to the Hyatt. Went to the front desk, she handed over her passport (BTW, $15 upgrade fee) and off we went. In the room she was fantastic. We had negotiated $250 TLN (all night) didn't matter how many sessions be it 1 or 10. Well I got off 4 sessions and very satisfied. She was passionate and patient. BBBJ, DFK, multiple positions, GFE & PSE all in one. As a veteran Costa Rica monger, I usually pay around $200 TLN when at the Del Rey and / or Key Largo so an extra $50 did not definitely break the bank. Don't get me wrong, I probably spent around $100 in alcohol (shots, cocktails, beer) at Habanos but it was well worth it and as a matter of fact, I would have it no other way. IMHO when a girls starts drinking up it just tells me that a great time and hotel room session is right around the corner. Unfortunately only visited the Veneto and Habanos this time around. Am planning to return to check out the other monger places.

My opinion of Panama City as a mongering destination is not bad. If the airfare wasn't an issue I would return more frequently but a round trip from Chicago to Panama is not cheap. That's one of the reasons why I constantly go to Costa Rica as the airfare is pretty cheap as compared to Panama City. But Habanos did definitely get my interest and will probably return.

Lefeu
10-16-17, 05:20
...Went to the front desk, she handed over her passport (BTW, $15 upgrade fee) and off we went...The $15 fee was for the overnight guest, right? Or was it an upgrade? For what? Thanks for taking the time to write this excellent report.

Chris561
10-16-17, 16:53
Monger vet in Costa Rica but monger newbie in Panama city.

1st day, arrived on Wednesday evening checked into the Hyatt. Shit, showered, shaved then went to dinner. Had dinner at Hooters then straight back to the Hyatt (seeing as I was traveling with some non-monger friends) the first night. Everyone went beddy-bye then I headed out solo to the Veneto. Was a little disappointed as it was around 11-12 midnight and only saw around a dozen or so girls. Maybe 1 or 2 nice looking girls and the rest not so nice or average looking. A lot of girls just playing around on their phones and sitting around scratching their asses. Finally was able to get a decent looking Colombian with fake boobies. Older average looking girl. Not into older (middle thirties) girls but I was getting desperate (translation horny) so I pulled her. Negotiated for 2 rounds for $150 no time limit. Took a $3 taxi ride back to the Hyatt, checked her in (front desk made a copy of her passport) and went up. In the room she started to turn or dim the lights and I told her hell no! I want to see everything! She said whatever and took a quick shower and came out in her birthday suit..I as well am a CR monger and now frequent Medellin Colombia. I live in Florida so airfare is always cheap for me. I've been meaning to try out Panama city but the girls seem very expensive compared to other monger destinations. Do all the girls ask for dollar's? Habanos doesn't have any rooms on site?

C5.

Rickter55
10-17-17, 04:36
The $15 fee was for the overnight guest, right? Or was it an upgrade? For what? Thanks for taking the time to write this excellent report.The $15 fee was for the room guest but Hyatt lists it as an upgrade. When I checked out, the $15 ($30 total as I had 2 upgrades while staying there) was listed on my invoice as an upgrade. I asked outright (pretending I didn't know what the charge was for) what the charge was for and the front desk clerk just casually mentioned. Oh, you must have had a guest up in your room 2 times during your stay?

Rickter55
10-17-17, 04:48
I as well am a CR monger and now frequent Medellin Colombia. I live in Florida so airfare is always cheap for me. I've been meaning to try out Panama city but the girls seem very expensive compared to other monger destinations. Do all the girls ask for dollar's? Habanos doesn't have any rooms on site?

C5.To me Panama city is a great metropolis and (IMHO) in no way compares to San Jose, Costa Rica as far as the quality of girls. Both sessions were negotiated in $US dollars. Hardly an expert on Panama mongering but during my quick trip I found out that Habanos is simply a place to meet breathtaking girls. What I like about that place is the table service that they provide. You have your own personalized waitress at your beck and call. I tipped her generously as she was really great. No rooms onsite. Stayed at the Hyatt ($80 per night) which is 1 1/2 blocks away walking distance.

Mellowg
10-17-17, 11:23
Do all the girls ask for dollar's? Habanos doesn't have any rooms on site?

C5.The US dollar is the national currency of Panama.

Habanos does NOT have onsite facilities.

Mellow.

Chris561
10-17-17, 13:50
The US dollar is the national currency of Panama.

Habanos does NOT have onsite facilities.

Mellow.
To me Panama city is a great metropolis and (IMHO) in no way compares to San Jose, Costa Rica as far as the quality of girls. Both sessions were negotiated in $US dollars. Hardly an expert on Panama mongering but during my quick trip I found out that Habanos is simply a place to meet breathtaking girls. What I like about that place is the table service that they provide. You have your own personalized waitress at your beck and call. I tipped her generously as she was really great. No rooms onsite. Stayed at the Hyatt ($80 per night) which is 1 1/2 blocks away walking distance.Thank you fellas. I've heard only good things about Habanos. I thought it was a casa where you walk in and they sit you down and introduce them to you via a line up. LOL.

C5.

Dickhead
10-17-17, 15:31
The US dollar is not the national currency of Panamá. The Balboa is the national currency of Panamá.

Crazy Jim Wood
10-17-17, 15:48
The USD is the national currency, although it is called Balboa sometimes. They have their own coins, although I believe those are also minted in the USA.


The US dollar is not the national currency of Panam. The Balboa is the national currency of Panam..

Dickhead
10-17-17, 16:02
Anyone who would care to place a slight wager on what is the national currency of Panamá may feel free to PM me.

Tp Horn
10-17-17, 18:00
Anyone who would care to place a slight wager on what is the national currency of Panam may feel free to PM me.This got me interested. My cheques say BALBOAS, with "USA DOLARES" below in smaller letters. The deposit slips have only "US $". No wonder people are confused. (But you're correct of course.).

The Cane
10-17-17, 18:28
Anyone who would care to place a slight wager on what is the national currency of Panama may feel free to PM me.This is a silly debate. The Balboa and the Dollar are both official currencies in Panama and can be used interchangeably without any eyebrows being raised ever. And when you're in Panama, that's all you need to know!

Dickhead
10-17-17, 21:17
The US dollar has been legal tender ever since the US stole Panamá from Colombia. Panamanian coins have indeed been minted in the US, as well as by other foreign countries and even private businesses, which is certainly unusual. Panamanian coins currently have and usually have had the exact same size and metal composition as US coins. However, at various times Panamá has minted denominations that were never used in the US, such as 1. 25 centísimos and 2. 50 centísimos. That latter coins was the smallest coin ever struck by the US mint.

Where it gets really weird is Cambodia. They use the US dollar, but also produce their own banknotes. But, the Cambodian bank notes are worth so little that they function like coins for making small change. The notes are also flimsy and since it's so hot and humid, disintegrate easily. So every Cambodian has his or her carefully maintained Ziploc baggie for keeping their bank notes intact. Ecuador, El Salvador, and The Bahamas also use the US dollar, although The Bahamas also prints its own notes and coins that circulate alongside the US dollar.

Crazy Jim Wood
10-17-17, 23:04
Has anyone seen Balboa bills used in use in Panama? It seems that aside from coins, the only currency is the USD greenback. Balboa is used to mean bucks or money in general, as well as referring to the coins. Like any other of numerous Spanish words that are different from English words but mean the same thing. But for all intents and purposes, the USD greenback is the only currency of Panama when dealing with amounts more than a handful of change.

Dickhead
10-17-17, 23:25
Has anyone seen Balboa bills used in use in Panama? It seems that aside from coins, the only currency is the USD greenback. Balboa is used to mean bucks or money in general, as well as referring to the coins. Like any other of numerous Spanish words that are different from English words but mean the same thing. But for all intents and purposes, the USD greenback is the only currency of Panama when dealing with amounts more than a handful of change.Yep, that's true. There was one president who decided to print paper Balboas, I think around WWII. But he was quickly overthrown and the successor shut the central bank and recalled all the notes. If I remember all this stuff correctly, I think the bills only circulated for a matter of days or weeks. The coins are kind of a pain in the ass because you end up with them in your pockets back in the US if you are not vigilant. It seems like Ecuador also has their own coins. I seem to remember that. I don't know about El Salvador. I haven't been there yet, although I should get there early next year. Ecuador started using the dollar before El Salvador did, I know that. Before that Ecuador had the 'sucre. ' The money they print in The Bahamas is a lot prettier and more colorful than boring US dollars. They just use the bills interchangeably in that country, like they did in Argentina before their peso collapsed.

The US dollar is not the only borrowed currency in use; for example, Montenegro is not in the EU or the ECU, but they have adopted the euro as their own.

Frankfurt
10-18-17, 00:40
Actually when you check out, the clerk pulls out your folio from the drawer and next time if you look carefully, you will see the copies of the Cedulas of your guest in your folio.

Mine had 3 or 4 copies of Cedulas attached which made bulk of my folio. However this was before the 'upgrade' fee was introduced. It was rather little embarrassing as that cute dark skinned 20 something old girl with long black hair was checking me out (checking out as in Check out of the hotel) and my folio with attached Cedulas laid there on counter for good few minutes haha.


The $15 fee was for the room guest but Hyatt lists it as an upgrade. When I checked out, the $15 ($30 total as I had 2 upgrades while staying there) was listed on my invoice as an upgrade. I asked outright (pretending I didn't know what the charge was for) what the charge was for and the front desk clerk just casually mentioned. Oh, you must have had a guest up in your room 2 times during your stay?

Mfins
10-18-17, 04:50
Yep, that's true. There was one president who decided to print paper Balboas, I think around WWII. But he was quickly overthrown and the successor shut the central bank and recalled all the notes. If I remember all this stuff correctly, I think the bills only circulated for a matter of days or weeks. The coins are kind of a pain in the ass because you end up with them in your pockets back in the US if you are not vigilant. It seems like Ecuador also has their own coins. I seem to remember that. I don't know about El Salvador. I haven't been there yet, although I should get there early next year. Ecuador started using the dollar before El Salvador did, I know that. Before that Ecuador had the 'sucre. ' The money they print in The Bahamas is a lot prettier and more colorful than boring US dollars. They just use the bills interchangeably in that country, like they did in Argentina before their peso collapsed.

The US dollar is not the only borrowed currency in use; for example, Montenegro is not in the EU or the ECU, but they have adopted the euro as their own.El Salvador and Ecuador both use the One Dollar US Coins. Used to be called Susan be Anthony's however I am not sure what they are called now.

The Banks do not carry US One Dollar Bills but, there are some circulated from tourists or from years ago when they were used instead of the coins.

Questner
10-18-17, 05:04
Likely the currency story goes back to the end of the War of Thousand Days when the Colombian peso depreciated about 30 times against the pound sterling.

Mellowg
10-21-17, 18:54
We are just arguing about words.

If, beside coinage, one can show any paper currency in actual circulation today other than the greenback, I will gladly retract and agree that the Balboa is it.

Till then.

Mellow.

Viajando Musico
10-25-17, 21:15
I spent 4 nights in Panama a couple weeks ago, and was pleased how the trip turned out. Same as last trip, I stayed at Hyatt for its location. I made a reservation at Hotel Eurostar close by first, but cancelled it due to unclear chica policy. Booking as single occupancy Hyatt charged $15 for each girl I brought back. I already wrote about part of my first night, so here is the remainder of the trip.

After leaving La Mayor at 2:30, I asked the taxi driver to drive me to Ashe. I was here last year, but arrived too early for the action, this time, different story. I got here around 2:45 AM. There were many girls hanging around. They charge entrance of $10 if you want to go inside the club where you can dance. I saw many beautiful girls sitting around tables outside, so no hurry to go in. 5 min. After ordering my drink, a little spinner from Peraira, Colombia landed herself at my table after exchanging a couple glances with me. A shorter girl than my taste but with very beautiful face and very pleasant personality. I gave her a 7 for her height, could have been 8 if she was a few inches taller. It was late, and my first night so after spending too much for drinks in La Mayor, I decided to give this girl a try with all remaining cash in my pocket. So not even asking how much she wanted, I told her I only have $71 in cash (truth), and I can't go to ATM for some reason (lie, of course). If she agrees, I will give her all I have after paying the taxi. Sensing I was probably her last hope for the slow night, she took the bait. I was a little concern about underpaying that might result in downgraded service, but she didn't disappoint, and did all she promised.

Woke up in the morning to catch some breakfast, the selection of food was similar to last year, but not as good in taste for me. It is not a big deal. The Paisa I met at la Boca, Leidy, texted me asking how I was doing. With the good experience I had with her the night before, I decided to bring her to the hotel for some fun in the early afternoon. She wanted $100/ hour or $300 for the whole day stating that was what she charges when she goes to work at Veneto or Habano. I told her I would give her $140 for 2 hours. She agreed and arrived on time as arranged, but I had to register her at the front desk. The male staff was cool about it and explained to me now there is a charge for guest. I got lucky a few hours ago with the night shift staff. Anyway, the steamy section was repeated as the night before, GFE all the way. I rate her appearance 7. 5, again would have been an 8 if she got a little more carne on her.

After Leidy left, I tried a couple #'s I got from Mileroticos whom I had established contact before my trip. Both had their own apartments in the area close to Hyatt. Both girls turned out to be very disappointed in their appearances. I excused myself and left. Both didn't show their face on their profiles and maybe used others' photos instead of their own. I had asked them to send me photos that show their faces before our meetings, and both refused. I should have noticed the red flags right there. Anyway, just a waste of a couple hours, nothing else.

In the Evening I went to Habano at around 10 PM. The place was packed with beautiful girls. This was probably the most concentrated place on earth with beautiful Paisas. Even night clubs in Medellin don't have the quality and quantity like here. I would say about 60-80 girls and half of that # of guys. One thing I complained about Habano has been how hot it is being so crowded without air condition. This night was not that bad, but was horrible when I came back a couple nights later.

On the 3rd day I headed over to La Boca again in the afternoon. It was Sat. The place is a lot more crowded with local guys looking for a quickie. Unlike other girls displayed themselves at the most visible places, I spotted this very attractive young girl quietly stood in the back corner where there were gaming machines against the wall. This girl looked totally out of place here. Sara from Bello outside of Medellin, she is the most beautiful girls I have seen in this place. A solid 8. No doubt she could put many Habanos girls in shame. She apparently also noticed me, so after exchanging some interest for each other, she moved herself slowly towards where I stood. I stroke up a conversation with her. When close by with better lighting, I realized how beautiful she was. We both agreed that on site, it is not a comfortable place to continue our encounter, so she suggested the Pension. It is a small love hotel around the corner 3-4 min. Walk away. Safe to walk there when there is still day light, but not suggested at night. I asked her how much I had to gift her. She replied $50/ HR, hell, yes, off we went to the Pension. The room is $10/ HR, very clean, but no hot water. I locked her up for 2 hours with an appointment to see each other for another 2 hours on my last day. Sara was not only beautiful, she delivered a good section as well. 2 hours slipped by rapidly. I don't know how much longer she will be in Panama, but if you are adventurous enough and don't mind the filthy surrounding, She will reward you for your efforts.

After my encounter with Sara, I went back to La Mayor where I had a wonderful night drinking 2 nights ago. My Venezuelana with a killer body from the other night came over immediately. For budget concern and knowing she can down beers like no tomorrow. I brushed her away politely. She got the message and left me alone. I met a morenita Vezuelana whose name escaped me, She is not as beautiful, a 7 not an 8, but with very pleasant personality and can dance sensually. I sent 2 hours there and took her back to the hotel, $80 for the hour, again very GFE section. Panama is even better the 2nd time around.

I had heard about Red Lion close to Hard Rock hotel, and out of curiosity wanted to find out how it is. So took a taxi there at 9 PM. There were a few restaurants / bars across street from Hard Rock hotel. They all have young waitresses, mostly Venezuelanas who will sit and entertain you. I think one can establish some king of contact with the waitresses and go further. My waitress, Andrea from Venezuela even volunteered to take me sightseeing the next day when she has her day off. Maybe a good joint for locals to pick up some action in the future, but not for tourists who are only here for a few days. While here, I also observed a very interesting act performed by the waitresses. The guys at the table next to mine ordered tequila shots that came with whip cream on top of the shot glass. The waitress then took the glass and downed the tequila with their mouth only, no hand, and they moved the glass in and out of their mouth symbolizing the movement of doing a BJ. The whip cream around their mouths added visual effect of this fun game. Andrea told me the name of this game, but it was something I can't remember. I didn't see any obvious presence of working chicas around.

On my last day, I met up with Sara, the beautiful Paisa at the Pension again in the afternoon for 2 hours. She didn't work that day, Sunday, so look even better with her street cloth when she arrived. After the deed, We went through her life, her family. The regular craps, and again 2 hours slipped by quickly. Just want to mention when I was in La Boca the first night when I arrived, I also conversed with an young Venezuelana, an equal beauty as Sara in my scale who wanted $70/ HR. To go to the Pension. She was the first girl who mentioned the Pension to me. I didn't feel any enthutiatism despite the regular sales pitch from her, so didn't bite. I did see her going up to the rooms several times that night. So I heard later on that the going rate is $70 for the more beautiful girls at La Boca. I had no idea why Sara only charged me $50, pure luck I guess.

I went to Habano again on my last night. Being a Sun. , the place is not as crazy, but still with good # of girls around. I set my eyes on a tall Paisa I talked with 2 nights prior. But she kept moving around by the time I am ready, she was nowhere to be found. I stayed around a little longer, but the longer I waited, the lesser girls were available. I didn't want to go back to the hotel alone on my last night, so talked with this MILF, only found out later with more lights and back at the hotel lobby from her passport at the registration. Despite her birth year of 1979, she actually still poses very attractive figure, and all natural. The section was as steamy as it can be with some younger generation I encounter on this trip, so no regret with the decision.

As I said, I found Panama is better the 2nd time around, maybe because I am more familiar with the City now. I know Colombia is just an hour flight away, but for a change, Panama didn't disappoint me. Using the US currency also makes everything easier even at a higher rate than in Colombia. Casco Viejo is definitely nice to spend some time at. Combining my trips to Casco Viejo with my trips to La Boca and La Mayor work out nicely for my itinerary.

This time, I didn't go to the chica apartment at Dynasty building at Plaza de Mayo, because I don't think I could find the same diamond I found there last time, and the area and chica quality there was not worth the efforts either. I just got lucky last time. With one unimpressive experience, I didn't try any massage parlor this time either despite the persuasion from many taxi driver, we all know they got a cut there. If I had more time, I would be bound for Colombia, but for shorter time, Panama suites the need.

Chris561
10-26-17, 01:57
I spent 4 nights in Panama a couple weeks ago, and was pleased how the trip turned out. Same as last trip, I stayed at Hyatt for its location. I made a reservation at Hotel Eurostar close by first, but cancelled it due to unclear chica policy. Booking as single occupancy Hyatt charged $15 for each girl I brought back. I already wrote about part of my first night, so here is the remainder of the trip.

After leaving La Mayor at 2:30, I asked the taxi driver to drive me to Ashe. I was here last year, but arrived too early for the action, this time, different story. I got here around 2:45 AM. There were many girls hanging around. They charge entrance of $10 if you want to go inside the club where you can dance. I saw many beautiful girls sitting around tables outside, so no hurry to go in. 5 min. After ordering my drink, a little spinner from Peraira, Colombia landed herself at my table after exchanging a couple glances with me. A shorter girl than my taste but with very beautiful face and very pleasant personality. I gave her a 7 for her height, could have been 8 if she was a few inches taller. It was late, and my first night so after spending too much for drinks in La Mayor, I decided to give this girl a try with all remaining cash in my pocket. So not even asking how much she wanted, I told her I only have $71 in cash (truth), and I can't go to ATM for some reason (lie, of course). If she agrees, I will give her all I have after paying the taxi. Sensing I was probably her last hope for the slow night, she took the bait. I was a little concern about underpaying that might result in downgraded service, but she didn't disappoint, and did all she promised.

Woke up in the morning to catch some breakfast, the selection of food was similar to last year, but not as good in taste for me. It is not a big deal. The Paisa I met at la Boca, Leidy, texted me asking how I was doing. With the good experience I had with her the night before, I decided to bring her to the hotel for some fun in the early afternoon. She wanted $100/ hour or $300 for the whole day stating that was what she charges when she goes to work at Veneto or Habano. I told her I would give her $140 for 2 hours. She agreed and arrived on time as arranged, but I had to register her at the front desk. The male staff was cool about it and explained to me now there is a charge for guest. I got lucky a few hours ago with the night shift staff. Anyway, the steamy section was repeated as the night before, GFE all the way. I rate her appearance 7. 5, again would have been an 8 if she got a little more carne on her..Thank you for taking the time to write this excellent report. I felt like I was right there in Panana reading your report. I'm a Medellin guy myself, booked another trip already for December, however Panama is on my list to visit for sure.

Question, did you dream with any Panama chicks?

C5.

Samcik
10-26-17, 20:51
Gentlemen,

Does anybody have experience with bringing girls to Trump Hotel?

Trifecta68
10-27-17, 19:28
I spent 4 nights in Panama a couple weeks ago, and was pleased how the trip turned out. Same as last trip, I stayed at Hyatt for its location. I made a reservation at Hotel Eurostar close by first, but cancelled it due to unclear chica policy. Booking as single occupancy Hyatt charged $15 for each girl I brought back. I already wrote about part of my first night, so here is the remainder of the trip.

After leaving La Mayor at 2:30, I asked the taxi driver to drive me to Ashe. I was here last year, but arrived too early for the action, this time, different story. I got here around 2:45 AM. There were many girls hanging around. They charge entrance of $10 if you want to go inside the club where you can dance. I saw many beautiful girls sitting around tables outside, so no hurry to go in. 5 min. After ordering my drink, a little spinner from Peraira, Colombia landed herself at my table after exchanging a couple glances with me. A shorter girl than my taste but with very beautiful face and very pleasant personality. I gave her a 7 for her height, could have been 8 if she was a few inches taller. It was late, and my first night so after spending too much for drinks in La Mayor, I decided to give this girl a try with all remaining cash in my pocket. So not even asking how much she wanted, I told her I only have $71 in cash (truth), and I can't go to ATM for some reason (lie, of course). If she agrees, I will give her all I have after paying the taxi. Sensing I was probably her last hope for the slow night, she took the bait. I was a little concern about underpaying that might result in downgraded service, but she didn't disappoint, and did all she promised.

Woke up in the morning to catch some breakfast, the selection of food was similar to last year, but not as good in taste for me. It is not a big deal. The Paisa I met at la Boca, Leidy, texted me asking how I was doing. With the good experience I had with her the night before, I decided to bring her to the hotel for some fun in the early afternoon. She wanted $100/ hour or $300 for the whole day stating that was what she charges when she goes to work at Veneto or Habano. I told her I would give her $140 for 2 hours. She agreed and arrived on time as arranged, but I had to register her at the front desk. The male staff was cool about it and explained to me now there is a charge for guest. I got lucky a few hours ago with the night shift staff. Anyway, the steamy section was repeated as the night before, GFE all the way. I rate her appearance 7. 5, again would have been an 8 if she got a little more carne on her..Great detailed report on Panama City. You certainly nailed down an abundance of chicas. As I have mentioned in the past, Panama has extreme value with safety. Great accommodations, and unbelievable puss from all over South America. So I pay a few dollars more but I have North American standards and all of the action close by!! I haven't deviated outside the Habanos corridor simply because it's such an amazing place. But I must say your your info inspires me to visit the local joints. Well done!

Viajando Musico
10-28-17, 00:56
Thank you for taking the time to write this excellent report. I felt like I was right there in Panana reading your report. I'm a Medellin guy myself, booked another trip already for December, however Panama is on my list to visit for sure.

Question, did you dream with any Panama chicks?

C5.Chris,

For more genuine Colombiana chica experience, definitely head for Colombia, but after getting more familiar with Panama City, It can be enjoyed not only with Paisas, but Venezuelanas, Cubanas.. And others as well. Even Clombinanas and Venezuelanas outnumber other nationalities, I did like the different options available. The locations for our hobby are also more concentrated and convenient. I found the taxi drivers or even general population in Panama are more lay back, while in Medellin, they are much more tense and defensive. Have you angered a taxista in Medellin just for slamming the door a little too hard as we used to back at home when getting off his car.

I didn't go with any Panamenas, but they are there. On my both trips, I did talk to some local girls working in Habano. First was a not so attractive morena, and this time, a very beautiful tall light complexion girl, an 8 in my book. I rate most of the girls in Habano 7-8, with a limited # of 8. 5. I almost got tempted to bring her back, but the conversation didn't give me confidence that it would be a good section.

Dickhead
10-28-17, 03:31
I almost always go with panameñas when in Panamá and my opinion is that they give much better service than colombianas. If you run into any nicas in Panamá, they usually give good service as well.

Frankfurt
11-01-17, 00:14
Dickhead,

Where do Panama girls hang out? I don't recall seeing any in Habanos but I have only been there a few times. I am also in the camp that prefers service over artificial silicone boobs / ass and diva attitude of Colombian chicas at Habanos. Even Venezuelan girls in PTY provide much better companionship at a lower price than the Colombian mafia.


I almost always go with panameas when in Panam and my opinion is that they give much better service than colombianas. If you run into any nicas in Panam, they usually give good service as well.

Mellowg
11-10-17, 07:14
Well it had to happen.

Habanos has changed its name. Still the same owner, but the sign now says "Don Julio".

Rules have been implemented for the girls:

1- They need to have a "carnet" to be allowed in. Issued by the bar itself, it is meant to keep away the undesirables and the fighters, not to say anything about the lifters. No carnet no entry.

2- Dress code has been implemented. For the LAdies "Distinguished" apparel are the rigeur. No more minis so short that they can be mistaken for belts. Gentlemen's dress code has been enforced. Need to look neat, or entrance will be denied.

3- Girls need to have a drink before them to be able to stay at your table. CCTV were installed throughout and are monitored by two ladies supervisor. If the girl does not drink regularly she will not be admitted again.

4- On the third floor, rooms have been made available at a price $50.00 for your convenience. No need to look for outside short-term accommodation.

If the fog lifts tomorrow and I remember some more, I will let you know.

I am sure if you ask the taxi driver to take you to Habanos, he will get you there no problem. But in the future it will be known as Don Julio to th newbies.

Enjoy.

Mellow.

Mellowg
11-10-17, 07:23
While talking to a few girls at Habanos (pardon "Don Julio") last night, I was told that at least 6 girls have disappeared recently.

All the girls carry pictures of 2 presumed guys involved, along with the pictures of some of the girls that act friendly toward their sisters only to snare them and help in their disappearance.

I was shown pictures of girls that I knew who are missing.

So if you feel that the girls are more selective, now you know why.

Let us hope that these f"ers get cought.

Mellow.

YippieKayay
11-10-17, 13:50
Well it had to happen.

Habanos has changed its name. Still the same owner, but the sign now says "Don Julio".

Rules have been implemented for the girls:

...Damn. Long gone are the days of just walking in and grabbing what you like. Keep an eye out for a replacement bar. Now that Venezuelans must have a visa to enter Panama I would have thought things would quiet down.

Also real shame about the prostitutes going missing. I'm willing to bet the cops are not happy about that.

Tp Horn
11-10-17, 20:21
I'm willing to bet the cops are not happy about that.You have a higher opinion of the policia than I do. Admittedly, a few busts of bad guys in this type of crime make the news occasionally, but cops also shake down the women. There's a chance the kidnappers have friendly cops on their side.

Mellowg
11-12-17, 13:22
Just to keep you guys up to the minute.

According to TV news last night (and confirmed by my "friends"), Police raided a local in the city and arrested and jailed one of the men involved.

Liberated at the same time some 12 girls (amongst them some girls we know), in various degrees of trauma. Police informed that the girls will be needing psychological and medical care for a while.

Tick off a good one for the cops.

Mellow.

Mellowg
11-14-17, 05:31
By a rainy Monday night, I visited Veneto and saw about 8 sweethearts, two blackjack tables open and one Bacarrat, few patrons.

Followed by the Trump Casino, 18 chicas waiting around the bar and about the same number of tables as Veneto.

Your choice.

Mellow.

ThrillSeeker69
11-14-17, 13:57
By a rainy Monday night, I visited Veneto and saw about 8 sweethearts, two blackjack tables open and one Bacarrat, few patrons.

Followed by the Trump Casino, 18 chicas waiting around the bar and about the same number of tables as Veneto.

Your choice.

Mellow.Keep up the reports bro. I'm making my first trip there in a few weeks and your info is helpful.

JoeBallard
11-30-17, 00:11
I have a question for the connoisseurs of the Mongering Genre in Panama.

If you had a choice to visit Panama City for fun between December 10-20 or January 10-20, which date interval would you chose?

I hear that Chicas go back to their home countries in December and the choices are limited.

I have some free travel miles to burn, and I'm planning to use them for a visit in Panama City.

I'm planning to hit the place formerly known as Habanos for some mongering action!

Furthermore, has anyone been to the "new Habanos"? How different is it from the previous one?

Dave1027
11-30-17, 01:57
I have a question for the connoisseurs of the Mongering Genre in Panama.

If you had a choice to visit Panama City for fun between December 10-20 or January 10-20, which date interval would you chose?

I hear that Chicas go back to their home countries in December and the choices are limited.

I have some free travel miles to burn, and I'm planning to use them for a visit in Panama City.

I'm planning to hit the place formerly known as Habanos for some mongering action!

Furthermore, has anyone been to the "new Habanos"? How different is it from the previous one?The best time would be Jan 10th through Jan 20th.

HarvestBoi
11-30-17, 05:04
I have a question for the connoisseurs of the Mongering Genre in Panama.

If you had a choice to visit Panama City for fun between December 10-20 or January 10-20, which date interval would you chose?

I hear that Chicas go back to their home countries in December and the choices are limited.

I have some free travel miles to burn, and I'm planning to use them for a visit in Panama City.

I'm planning to hit the place formerly known as Habanos for some mongering action!

Furthermore, has anyone been to the "new Habanos"? How different is it from the previous one?I'm far from a PC expert (been once) but been to other Latin American contries and this looks like an close to an even money bet with the best times being the early part of your Dec range or the later part of the January. January 8 is a big holiday for Catholics so many chicks stay home until then and it often takes them a few days to get to the job site, all of us LOL. I always have Jan 20 as the date when things are back to full speed.

Member #4722
12-01-17, 07:56
Would also like to know what the current intel is regarding the former Habanos. Just my luck I booked a trip in February and then found out about the changes.

- last mongering trip I arrived in Germany a week after the BBBJ outlaw went into effect! Had fun there and I'm sure I will in panama but I hope things are back to normal by February!

Dumb Ass
12-01-17, 15:14
Would also like to know what the current intel is regarding the former Habanos. Just my luck I booked a trip in February and then found out about the changes.

- last mongering trip I arrived in Germany a week after the BBBJ outlaw went into effect! Had fun there and I'm sure I will in panama but I hope things are back to normal by February!I was there 2 weeks ago, other than the girls showing ID, everything was the same as it was last year when I visited.

Mellowg
12-02-17, 01:01
Would also like to know what the current intel is regarding the former Habanos. !There is nothing changed really except for the official name.

Mellow.

Joey Smith
12-03-17, 01:58
There is nothing changed really except for the official name.

Mellow.Was there last week. Didn't notice any changes. Same variety of ladies they've had for years. Ladies rotate about every 2-3 months. Lots of candy to choose from.

Mellowg
12-10-17, 22:58
Just for your information the girls are now requested to pay a $5 dollar entrance fee.

Won't change anything drastically but not all the girls are happy about it (surprise. Surprise).

Enjoy.

Mellow.

ThrillSeeker69
12-13-17, 11:58
I'll be in Panama City on Thursday, and have a pretty tight itinerary lined up (pun intended).

I'll have a little time to kill on Friday afternoon after doing the tourist thing.

Do you guys recommend Golden Times or Bocaterena for early afternoon fun on a Friday? Of course it's apples vs oranges, but opinions are welcome.

DR Monger II
12-14-17, 07:37
Golden time doesn't open until 7 pm.


I'll be in Panama City on Thursday, and have a pretty tight itinerary lined up (pun intended).

I'll have a little time to kill on Friday afternoon after doing the tourist thing.

Do you guys recommend Golden Times or Bocaterena for early afternoon fun on a Friday? Of course it's apples vs oranges, but opinions are welcome.

DR Monger II
12-17-17, 05:46
I want to warn fellow mongers to be careful with their wallet. I think I read about something like this happening before on ISG. I went to the Dynasty building in Panama and a puta took 40 dollars from my wallet while I was doing the deed. I had 85+ in my wallet and paid 15 dollars and the girl wanted 5 to take off her top, which is BS, but I gave it anyway. Usually I would just say no. Basically I was suppose to have 65 in my wallet and I was going to go to La Bocaterena. I went to buy something from a store and noticed that I only had about 25 bucks in my wallet. I don't recall any woman entering the room but they could have lifted the curtain and slipped a hand into my pants wallet and took out the money. My credit cards were all there. BE CAREFUL. Looking back at it, it almost seems like a magic trick. The girl that was involved and probably some other woman that lifted the money who I didn't see was on the first floor, when you take a right walk all the way down, and then on the first room on the left is where I went. It wasn't the room on the corner. It was the first room towards the left of it. She was a pretty brunette wearing a pink or red dress.

DR Monger II
12-17-17, 05:50
If you went on Friday, Bocaterena was jam packed. It's because of payday on the 2nd Friday of the month.


I'll be in Panama City on Thursday, and have a pretty tight itinerary lined up (pun intended).

I'll have a little time to kill on Friday afternoon after doing the tourist thing.

Do you guys recommend Golden Times or Bocaterena for early afternoon fun on a Friday? Of course it's apples vs oranges, but opinions are welcome.

ThrillSeeker69
12-18-17, 16:08
If you went on Friday, Bocaterena was jam packed. It's because of payday on the 2nd Friday of the month.I wound up going to Bocaterena. It was packed, the girls were aggressive and a lot of fun. I'll do a full report after I catch up on sleep and re-hydrate.

ThrillSeeker69
12-20-17, 14:00
This was my first trip to Panama, and thanks to the information I received here, it was a safe and extremely enjoyable trip.

I flew into Houston on Thursday morning, and as soon as we landed, the flight to Panama was boarding. Lo and Behold. There were roughly 30-40 women from the Colombian military in my boarding group, and most of them were stunning, even in their BDU's.

Once I landed and got through customs, I used my limited Spanish to negotiate a cab to the Hyatt. My phone battery was dead, so Uber wasn't an option. I wound up meeting a fellow monger in the cab, and he gave me some extremely good insight on the city and the "craft. ".

I had been in contact with a Chica for about a month before my arrival. She was due to leave on Thursday, but agreed to stay an extra day to meet and hang out. Since my Spanish and knowledge of the city were limited, we pre-negotiated a deal for TLN and I figured I would use her as a tour guide, translator, and for a host of other things. This deal worked out surprisingly well. We caught an Uber to Casco Viejo, had a great dinner, excellent chemistry, and listened to some great music. This was a true GFE, even down to her wearing exactly what I requested. The nightcap was excellent, as well as breakfast in the morning. The only downside is that I was feeling a bit under the weather.

Friday.

My GFE Chica had an early afternoon flight and needed to leave shortly after another session and of course breakfast. As soon as she hopped into her Uber, I headed to the Casino for some early morning blackjack. I won a couple hundred bucks rather quickly, cashed out, went back to the hotel and took a nap. I woke up freezing, and took that as a sign that I needed to get out and do something, so at noon, I called an Uber, and headed to La Bocaterena.

La Bocaterena was packed when I walked in. Wall to Wall Chicas and most were absolutely gorgeous. I heard stories about that place having mostly 5's and 6's. Maybe I was there on an extremely good day. Either way, a dark skinned Venezualean who was aggressive as hell latched on to me. She promised to "chupa sin condon" and before I could finish my beer, we were in one of those nasty ass rooms in the back.

I wound up paying for $30 for 30 minutes, did some "face painting" that she wasn't too happy about, snapped a couple pics and left. I thought about sticking around, but I had a date later with a girl I met on Seeking Arrangements and didn't want to over do it.

When I got back to my hotel, I started freezing again. I decided to walk to the pharmacy and get a thermometer. Turns out I had a 102 degree fever. The pharmacist gave me 10 800 MG ibuprofen for $0.70, I took that, grabbed something from Carl Jr's, went to my hotel and waited for my date. I had been doing face time and voice chats with the girl from SA. She speaks English extremely well. We went out for a few drinks, came back to the hotel, and I put on a stellar performance while thinking about my GFE from the night before. I couldn't pop, she came twice, and it was music to my ears when she said that she didn't want to spend the night. My only cost was dinner and a $17 Uber.

I took a shower while waiting on the Uber and told her that I was going back to the Casino.

No sooner than the Uber was out of site, I was walking down the hill headed to Habanos / Don Julio's.

The selection there was amazing and Paola introduced herself to me before I could make it to the bar. I was in the mood for an all natural, brown skinned Colombian, and that's exactly what she was. Just my luck, she also spoke a fair amount of English. We went upstairs to talk, she danced for me, flirted, and before my SA friend got dropped off at home by the Uber driver, Paola and I were on the way back to the hotel.

Two things: 1. The guys selling condoms outside are annoying as hell. 2. I understand why they do it, but having a driver take us to the hotel is utterly ridiculous.

Anyway, we got back to the Hotel, Paola went into GFE mode and gave me one of the best massages I've had in a very long time. She offered a CBJ. I didn't want one, and we proceeded to go through 5 positions before I popped. We chatted for a bit, and she was on her way. The damage $150 for 2 hrs.

To be continued.

YippieKayay
12-22-17, 01:34
TTwo things: 1. The guys selling condoms outside are annoying as hell. 2. I understand why they do it, but having a driver take us to the hotel is utterly ridiculous.
Thanks for the report. No idea how you did all that with a fever.

They are sharks. Most of the chicas you meet, good or bad service, it's all about the dollars so you'll always get people offering ridiculously bad deals and the chicas going along with it. The chica probably got kickbacks for the condom purchase and the taxi dollars you spent. Both were unnecessary.

BTW, $150 will get you TLN and more back in Colombia. Panama is over priced for chicas but as you said its far safer.

ThrillSeeker69
12-22-17, 15:44
Saturday.

I woke up refreshed, relaxed, and feeling like a million bucks. My friend from Seeking Arrangements planned "una DIA a la playa" and called me at 630 am to let me know she was on the way to the hotel. After a quick breakfast, we were on our way to catch the ferry to Tobago island.

The ferry ride was quick and scenic. We disembarked, hit the beach, and within 30 minutes, my date started complaining about the heat, the sun, etc.

We did a brief walking tour, found a shaded spot for her and a bar for me, and chilled for most of the day.

When we got back to Panama City, I did a bit of souvenir shopping, she went home to get showered and changed, and I went back to the hotel to "take a nap. ".

The door to the cab was barely shut before I was on What's App and texting Ariel, a 20 year old Venezuelan who reminded me of a Puerto Rican woman that I dated years ago. She agreed for an hour of GFE for $70 and she met me at the bar at the Hyatt at 8 ish.

Pictures did not do this woman justice. She was very petite with natural see cups and spoke zero English.

After a drink and a little flirting, we went upstairs, and her version of GFE did not disappoint. DFK, BBBJ, multiple positions, and a lot of fun. My only regret was not doing TLN. We talked for a bit, took a couple of pics, and she was in her Uber with a nice tip by 10:00.

My night should have ended there, but my hotel room has a birds eye view of Habanos, and I had an urge for a petite Blanquita with fake breasts, so by 11:30, I was making my trek down the hill again.

The bar wasn't as packed as it was on Friday, but the girls were just as aggressive. I turned down several and was about to approach a Chica who looked to be my perfect match when Mariana walked up and said Hi.

We chatted for a few, she started groping me at the bar and threw a high ball offer at me. We agreed on 120 with BBBJ and pics and we headed out the door.

Mariana had a "driver" as well. We got to the room and she gave me the most thorough "inspection" ever under the lamp. It was actually pretty comical.

She took off her shirt and bra and I gave a silent thank you to her surgeon. The work that she had done was excellent.

And then the rushing started.

The BBBJ was okay, but I started getting annoyed by the rushing. I whipped out the translator, told her to chill and relax, and it would be a whole lot better for both of us.

She listened, and when we got down to business, she had the tightest box that I have had in a very long time. I finally eased all the way in and before I could even get started, she had back to back leg shaking orgasms. Needless to say, the party got a whole lot more fun after that.

We finished up, chatted for a bit, she told me about her dreams of moving to NYC, I gave her a tip, got her What's App number, and bid her farewell.

All in all, it was a great trip. I didn't get to hit up Ashe or Capri. I'll save those for my return trip in March.

Since I've been back in the states, it has been hard to look at my "friends" the same.

Tp Horn
12-22-17, 16:39
There were roughly 30-40 women from the Colombian military in my boarding group, and most of them were stunning, even in their BDU's.I noticed those women in the airport in Panama that day, and some were very nice. Reminded me of the times where attractive female policia frisked me leaving airports in Colombia.

DR Monger II
12-23-17, 03:43
What is this driver stuff at Habanos? I mean even if you're staying at a hotel nearby you have to get in a cab? I think you mentioned Hyatt Place is very close.

I was staying in the area at Habanos, but never walked in. I know shame on me. I was tired most of the time. When I left Panama at 4 am I noticed that the police were clearing out the streets at 4 am. I guess they don't want the streets with hookers lingering after 4 am?

I was propositioned by some street walker that knew english very well, but wasn't very pretty. She asked me if I was looking for a lady and what I was looking for. She seemed a little aggressive, so I just ignored her. It seemed like she was out to scam me.

YippieKayay
12-23-17, 03:59
What is this driver stuff at Habanos? I mean even if you're staying at a hotel nearby you have to get in a cab? I think you mentioned Hyatt Place is very close.
Chica will come out with you from Habanos and there'll be a dude there next to a taxi. Chica will complain that she doesn't want to walk to the hotel in heels. The taxi man will quickly open his door and welcome you in. He'll charge something insane like $5 to take you to Hyatt. $5 goes a long way in a cab in Panama City. Even though its chump change to us its a big score for the cab driver when he does a quick 3-5 minute drive.

DarkSide99
12-23-17, 08:06
Chica will come out with you from Habanos and there'll be a dude there next to a taxi. Chica will complain that she doesn't want to walk to the hotel in heels. The taxi man will quickly open his door and welcome you in. He'll charge something insane like $5 to take you to Hyatt. $5 goes a long way in a cab in Panama City. Even though its chump change to us its a big score for the cab driver when he does a quick 3-5 minute drive.I've never had a problem convincing a chica to walk with me to Hyatt. But I make it clear to them I’m staying at the Hyatt and that we will walk

Avoid those taxi drivers at all costs. If I need a ride I call Uber and tell them to meet me in front of Costa Azul.

DarkSide99
12-23-17, 08:14
Saturday

The door to the cab was barely shut before I was on What's App and texting Ariel, a 20 year old Venezuelan who reminded me of a Puerto Rican woman that I dated years ago. She agreed for an hour of GFE for $70 and she met me at the bar at the Hyatt at 8 ish.How was the Hyatt with their chica fee? Are they still enforcing it?

ThrillSeeker69
12-23-17, 16:12
How was the Hyatt with their chica fee? Are they still enforcing it?The short answer is yes, but there are ways around it.

Eg: Thursday night chica walked in with me hugged up closely, and we walked directly to the elevator. She wasn't wearing the working girl "uniform" and on our initial trip up, we bypassed the front desk.

With the Panamanian local, the lady at the front desk asked if I wanted to add her to my reservation. I did, and then after she left, I removed her from my reservation.

I told Ariel to meet me at the bar. It was early enough that she walked straight in and no one asked any questions.

Basically if the girl looks like she's staying at the hotel or looks like she knows where she is going, the front desk won't harass her.

Honestly, I see the policy as a good thing. There's no way that I would try and being up a girl from Habanos that I didn't have any type of prior interaction with to my room without them providing their ID to the front desk. That $15 can save a lot of headache.

DarkSide99
12-23-17, 21:49
The short answer is yes, but there are ways around it.

Eg: Thursday night chica walked in with me hugged up closely, and we walked directly to the elevator. She wasn't wearing the working girl "uniform" and on our initial trip up, we bypassed the front desk.

With the Panamanian local, the lady at the front desk asked if I wanted to add her to my reservation. I did, and then after she left, I removed her from my reservation.

I told Ariel to meet me at the bar. It was early enough that she walked straight in and no one asked any questions.

Basically if the girl looks like she's staying at the hotel or looks like she knows where she is going, the front desk won't harass her.

Honestly, I see the policy as a good thing. There's no way that I would try and being up a girl from Habanos that I didn't have any type of prior interaction with to my room without them providing their ID to the front desk. That $15 can save a lot of headache.
I agree that the hotel copying their ID is a good thing. It's too bad that they now charge 15 $ for it. I've stayed at the Hyatt numerous times and I loved it but I'm lookkng to rent a 2 or 3 bedroom condo next trip as I will there with one or two buddies.

DR Monger II
12-24-17, 20:10
Habanos to Hyatt Place is almost less than a block. It's robbery.

JL Miami
12-26-17, 23:13
Habanos to Hyatt Place is almost less than a block. It's robbery.It's definitely robbery, but it's about four times longer in a car than on foot, since the Hyatt is on a one-way street. It's also a rough walk for women in heels, since it's all uphill.

Pilot3592
12-27-17, 16:27
I have A total of six hours to burn while in Panama city airport. Is this adequate time to catch a taxi check into the Hyatt pick up a girl do the deed and returned to catch my flight? I'm sure there is an adventurous person that has tried this. Comments please. I do not have time to make a connection on the Internet. I leave for Colombia later today and find myself with an unwanted layover in Panama City. I arrive approximately 1:30 am Thursday morning.

Mfins
12-28-17, 04:06
I have A total of six hours to burn while in Panama city airport. Is this adequate time to catch a taxi check into the Hyatt pick up a girl do the deed and returned to catch my flight? I'm sure there is an adventurous person that has tried this. Comments please. I do not have time to make a connection on the Internet. I leave for Colombia later today and find myself with an unwanted layover in Panama City. I arrive approximately 1:30 am Thursday morning.When coming back from Colombia we would connect in Panama city and purposely make our layover six to eight hours so we could go into the city and have fun. Usually hang out at the sports book to bet and watch football but, sometimes find the company of a couple females.

Best bet is to not check your bag, hussle as quickly as possible through customs, get a taxi, and check into a love motel or hotel by the hour. Its going to be faster and cheaper than going to a normal hotel. Also, keep in mind we used to do this on a Sunday and there was little or no traffic to and from the airport. If you do this during the week during rush hour forget it.

Mfins
12-28-17, 04:09
I have A total of six hours to burn while in Panama city airport. Is this adequate time to catch a taxi check into the Hyatt pick up a girl do the deed and returned to catch my flight? I'm sure there is an adventurous person that has tried this. Comments please. I do not have time to make a connection on the Internet. I leave for Colombia later today and find myself with an unwanted layover in Panama City. I arrive approximately 1:30 am Thursday morning.Sorry, I just noticed you land later tonight at 1:30 am. There won't be any traffic coming into Panama but, going back during rush hour four / five hours later may be congested. Also, you can try Veneto or Ashe at that time. Probably your only two realistic options.

Pilot3592
01-04-18, 16:08
Sorry, I just noticed you land later tonight at 1:30 am. There won't be any traffic coming into Panama but, going back during rush hour four / five hours later may be congested. Also, you can try Veneto or Ashe at that time. Probably your only two realistic options.I took your advice and stayed at Veneto. As a templet for others, yes, a quick trip is easily possible at least it was doable on NYE for a quickie staying at Veneto. Landed PTY and unloading at the gate approximately 7:30 pm No luggage so clear immigration and taxi to Veneto in 45 minutes. Strolling the casino floor with a drink in 1 hour. Picked my lady of choice payed the room plus a $45.00 joiner fee. Two-hour room time and taxi back to check in at gate. All of this was at a fast pace about 4 1/2 hours total. In addtion I had a great cab driver and retained him for my airport return.

One caution to others is this time frame was with zero traffic. It was accomplished with zero immigration line. Any immigration or traffic delay no way could you do this.

Frankfurt
01-05-18, 02:06
Well done pilot! Next time you can save some $, go straight to Habano, pick a girl and go around the corner to the short term hotel.

You lucked out at the airport. In my experience, more than the immigration line, it was the long customs line that took forever the couple times I was in PTY.


I took your advice and stayed at Veneto. As a templet for others, yes, a quick trip is easily possible at least it was doable on NYE for a quickie staying at Veneto. Landed PTY and unloading at the gate approximately 7:30 pm No luggage so clear immigration and taxi to Veneto in 45 minutes. Strolling the casino floor with a drink in 1 hour. Picked my lady of choice payed the room plus a $45.00 joiner fee. Two-hour room time and taxi back to check in at gate. All of this was at a fast pace about 4 1/2 hours total. In addtion I had a great cab driver and retained him for my airport return.

One caution to others is this time frame was with zero traffic. It was accomplished with zero immigration line. Any immigration or traffic delay no way could you do this.

Sargent 50
01-11-18, 15:25
How is pty during super bowl weekend? Anything close to how the DR is that weekend?

LuvPanamaBabes
01-12-18, 15:26
Very excited about my upcoming trip.

On one of my first trips, I went to the strip club near La Bocaterena, and had a blast, took this very gorgeous girl upstairs.

For $20 for 20 minutes, she was wonderful, came back 2 days later and did her again.

My last visit in May, went there and asked a girl about going upstairs and she acted offended!

My question is this place now just a strip club only?

Thanks a lot for any info.

By the way La Gruta Azul is lots of fun!

Viajando Musico
01-16-18, 01:41
A member posted in Apr. 2017 That he stayed in Occidental Hotel, and didn't get charged for bringing the chicas back to his room. Anybody else who has info about this? Thinking of booking here.

Seismo
01-17-18, 01:20
How is pty during super bowl weekend? Anything close to how the DR is that weekend?Superbowl weekend is nothing special here. Most of the sportsbooks put out food and maybe a keg for their customers.

I was there last year and went to several superbowl parties in the casinos. Hotel SORTIS in Obarrio had the best food.

Take two chicas to your hotel room and put the game on tv, you will have a better time!

Joe100
01-17-18, 15:12
Went to la bocatoreña the last couple of afternoons / evenings. It's cheap and cheerful. But of course, mechanical.

Didn't purchase on the first visit but did the last. 20 minutes for 20 dollars (15 for the girl and 5 for the room). I didn't much like the immediate up-sell. Wanting more money for this and that. I banged her, spilt my beans and exited. Beers are $1. 75. There was also some street on my walk back (ten minutes from la bocatoreña. It's a wild guess but I *think* it may be calle 18/19) - with bars on it. Checked them out. Pretty unremarkable. Some stripping in one of them but pretty tame. Girl strips then immediately once stripped, she leaves the floor. Beers were cheaper. Between 1-1. 50 on this street.

Anyone know where I can buy some cheap viagra? Was quoted $60/4 pills at a farmacia. Must be possible to buy for less.

Any other cheap working girl houses or strip joints?

Lee
01-17-18, 21:48
Anyone know where I can buy some cheap viagra? Was quoted $60/4 pills at a farmacia. Must be possible to buy for less.

?Did you ask for generic? It usually runs somewhere around $5. 00 a pill. $60.00 for Pfizer is about right for 50 MG. 100 MG around $80.00.

Course that's my experience others could be different.

Lee.

Dickhead
01-17-18, 22:56
Do not ask for 'Viagra'; ask for 'sildenafil.'

Joe100
01-18-18, 04:06
Thanks guys. Yes, I had better success today. Tried a different farmacia. And made it clear I wanted generic. Started out at 5/ pill but ended up at 3/ pill.

Went back to la bocatoreña. Was early in the afternoon. Not too busy. But a bit of talent knocking about. Took Vanessa. A fine looking Colombiana for an hours session at the pension nearby. Was worthwhile for $50.

Kaldres
01-22-18, 04:04
Hey ThrillSeeker,

Thanks for your Panama report. Mind sharing some pics of those chicas?

Planning my next trip and trying to choose between Panama and Costa Rica. Did DR a few years and Colombia last year. Was thinking Brazil put going to postpone that till later down.


Saturday.

I woke up refreshed, relaxed, and feeling like a million bucks. My friend from Seeking Arrangements planned "una DIA a la playa" and called me at 630 am to let me know she was on the way to the hotel. After a quick breakfast, we were on our way to catch the ferry to Tobago island.

The ferry ride was quick and scenic. We disembarked, hit the beach, and within 30 minutes, my date started complaining about the heat, the sun, etc.

We did a brief walking tour, found a shaded spot for her and a bar for me, and chilled for most of the day.

When we got back to Panama City, I did a bit of souvenir shopping, she went home to get showered and changed, and I went back to the hotel to "take a nap. ".

The door to the cab was barely shut before I was on What's App and texting Ariel, a 20 year old Venezuelan who reminded me of a Puerto Rican woman that I dated years ago. She agreed for an hour of GFE for $70 and she met me at the bar at the Hyatt at 8 ish..

Kooper
01-23-18, 03:29
Kaldres,

If you want pics to choose which has better looking girls, that answer is definitely Panama. Great selection that pretty much doesn't compare to CR in that aspect from my experiences. But the overall experience of each place is much different adding in all the other factors of hotels, city size, more extensive tourist experiences, fellow guys to connect with among other things. Both have their time and place to experience in my opinion if you don't like heading the extra distance to Colombia or the like. Since there are tons of colombian girls basically there.


Hey ThrillSeeker,

Thanks for your Panama report. Mind sharing some pics of those chicas?

Planning my next trip and trying to choose between Panama and Costa Rica. Did DR a few years and Colombia last year. Was thinking Brazil put going to postpone that till later down.

Joe100
01-24-18, 00:18
The street I couldn't remember the name of (from my previous report) was / is Calle 18 Este. Now, this isn't a mongering destination per se. It's a street full of bars. On the RHS. Third one down, the girls take turns to strip. Basically, this is one of these joints where you pay $5 for a drink for the girl. For their company.

Most of the bars didn't do anything for me on this street. I just had a quick look through. However, 'Marys' (first bar on the RHS. Entering from the Av. Balboa end) is fairly lively. These are just regular people letting loose. However, I was also pitched the $5 beer thing there as well as being propositioned for the full monty. The latter didn't go anywhere as between not having much spanish and the damn noise (if we had a quiet word, I'd have been able to communicate somehow), I couldn't make a whole lot of sense out of her.

Been back to La Bocatorena a few times. Just had a few beers and enjoyed the view. Have not gone to other parts of town as more expensive and it's a bit out of my way in any event.

@ LuvPanamaBabes: Where is the strip club near La Bocatorena? I am aware of one other place (around the block / side street from La be.) - but it's a dark dingy place. Didn't see any place for stripping and didn't seem to be much in the way of life there.

Kaldres
01-24-18, 01:41
LOL thanks, appreciate the advice.


Kaldres,

If you want pics to choose which has better looking girls, that answer is definitely Panama. Great selection that pretty much doesn't compare to CR in that aspect from my experiences. But the overall experience of each place is much different adding in all the other factors of hotels, city size, more extensive tourist experiences, fellow guys to connect with among other things. Both have their time and place to experience in my opinion if you don't like heading the extra distance to Colombia or the like. Since there are tons of colombian girls basically there.

Joe100
01-28-18, 20:46
I've left PC and moved on to David for now. I kept going back to La Bocatorena. It seems that every single girl in there is Colombian. Other than that, I called out to La Gruta Azul yesterday. However, it was mid afternoon so probably not giving it a proper chance. Beers were $3. There were a few girls around but I wasn't really in the mood so never bothered.

La Bocatorena was a success for me. It's down and' dirty so may not be for everyone. One girl pitched that she'd come to Bocas with me if I covered the bill. Although she later changed this to also offering a propina to go with it. I was tempted but ultimately didn't go there. I ploughed another colombiana there 3 x times. She just pressed all my buttons. First time she tried to upsell me. Second time, she knew better and included uncovered BJ. Third time, she included CIM finish.

Viajando Musico
01-31-18, 21:46
Spent a few days not long ago in Panama City. It was my 3rd trip here, so I am familiar with the surrounding by now. I stayed at the Occidental Panama. Location is good, right in between Veneto and Habano. Hotel room is good, but not very spacious, Staffs are not as accommodating as in Hyatt where I stayed in the previous 2 trips. I will go back to Haytt or might try Eurostar nearby next time. This hotel is not chica friendly. I was able to sneak a Habano girl up to the room, but the receptionist came out chasing me before I got in the elevator. I flat lied to him that she was my girlfriend and had already registered. My girl dressed quite normal, so he didn't press more. He probably realized the lie one hour after the girl left the hotel, but they didn't not charge me the next day when I checked out.

On this trip, I spent most of my time in between La Boca, La Mayor, and Habano. Went to Veneto a couple times at night, but it was dead, very few girls there. On the other hand, Habano is same as usual, crowded and filled with hot girls. Maybe it was right after New Year Holiday, many more girls than clients, definitely a buyer's market. Selections and quality were good the nights I was there. While in Habano one night, I ran into this Paisa whom I met on the other side of the globe 3 years ago, Eva, now equipped with her newly acquired access, looked much better, and spoke much more English. Although not my 1st choice of the night as I was eyeing some other hotties, for old time sake I went with her to the motel next door, San Roque for an hour. Cost for San Roque was $27 + $1 for the rubber. 3 years ago, I went with her younger sister and had a blasting TLN. This time, even only for an hours with her, same craziness. She even snapped a steamy photo for both of us and Whatsapped it to her sister who is in Medellin.

I spent 3 days in La Boca. You won't find the Habano quality in quantity here, but there are always a few gems around. For me, chances of getting better service here are higher. Actually, I never had a bad service here. You can always bring the girls to the motel close by as I did if you can't deal with the filthy rooms on site. There is no bar fine. Girls are free lancers. So they come and go as they wish. I know some of the daytime girls here also went to Veneto at nights to look for prospects.

A couple hours after my arrival, I ran into this free lancer who was just starting her night and walking to Veneto from Via Espana. A very sweet Costena from Baranquilla. Turned out her apartment was a stone throw away from my hotel. I stroke up a deal with her to spend a couple intimate hours in her place for $160. The section was GFE all the way I end up rewarding her $100/ HR, and this marked a good start for my trip. And because of her good service and the convenience, I saw her 2 more times during my short stay. The last one was 4 hours before my departure flight.

Before my arrival, I was planning to hit Golden Times and the el Dorado area where I didn't visit on my previous trips, because I read somewhere that this area is a good base more mongering in Panama City? But at the end of this trip, because of the convenience with the Baranquilla girl, I didn't find time to do this either. Well, next time. I hope members with more info about this area can chip in.

On my first trip, I went to the Dynasty building in Cinco de Mayo Plaza and found a gem there. So I went back to check out the place, unfortunately, nothing worth mentioning, and a total waste of time.

To sum it up, it was another pleasant trip. Panama boosts both high end and economical options for the hobbyists. The convenience of finding these establishments and a willing chicas are what make this city enjoyable. I will come back for sure.

Member #4722
02-01-18, 07:44
Heading to panama city in a couple weeks was hoping somebody could recommend good night clubs packed with local civilian chicas.

JL Miami
02-02-18, 16:40
I messed up and deleted my links from my last trip to Panama. I remember:

http://sexyhotpanama.com

http://panama.cracker.com

http://lagaleriapty.com

What other sites are you guys using for Panama City? I mostly stick to Habano's but I like to check online as well.

Thanks.

Tp Horn
02-06-18, 15:56
Heading to panama city in a couple weeks was hoping somebody could recommend good night clubs packed with local civilian chicas.There's the club at the top of the Hard Rock hotel. Casa Casco and Tantalo in the Casco Viejo. Go there and look for the crowds.

Member #4722
02-17-18, 18:55
Must be a seller's market right now. Spent a couple hours in Habanos last night. I struck out. Trying to hold firm to $100 per session. First girl I talked to was not very attractive and she told me 160 I just turned and walked away. She came back by and showed me 140 on her phone with her looks I wouldn't pay more than 80. Met two cute Venezuelan ladies they quoted me 150 but I held firm on my price. Met a really beautiful columbian hottie this girl was close to a 9. Of course she wanted $200. Kissed this one on the cheek and said bye. Since I saved $100 from last night maybe I will try. She was really hot but I shouldn't have to pay more than $100 for pussy here.

Went to a civvie bar and had a great time. Checked out Veneto late night some older chicas were quoting $200 then met a couple more unattractive ladies that might have gone under $100 but I just decided to go home empty handed.

I would have to say as far as quality Habanos has DelRey in Costa Rica beat hands down

YippieKayay
02-17-18, 22:24
Must be a seller's market right now. Spent a couple hours in Habanos last night. I struck out. Trying to hold firm to $100 per session. First girl I talked to was not very attractive and she told me 160 I just turned and walked away. She came back by and showed me 140 on her phone with her looks I wouldn't pay more than 80. Met two cute Venezuelan ladies they quoted me 150 but I held firm on my price. Met a really beautiful columbian hottie this girl was close to a 9. Of course she wanted $200. Kissed this one on the cheek and said bye. Since I saved $100 from last night maybe I will try. She was really hot but I shouldn't have to pay more than $100 for pussy here.
Hop on a plane to Cartagena, Colombia which is a quick flight way and you'll easily find many more chicas for 200 k Colombian Pesos (around $60 USD). Venezuelans now need visas to enter Panama so the ones you see are likely overstaying or on a plane back soon. Wouldn't surprise me if they are raising prices to make the best of their time.

Member #4722
02-18-18, 22:30
Finally just had to relent and paid $150 last night. Tried to get her to lower to $130 no luck. I can't remember if I have ever had sexo with a columbian this maybe was my first time. I have to say it was fantastic service even with CBJ. Also she didn't allow DATY she said she worries about infection from saliva? Never heard that one before. But she was very pretty and did good deepthroat. Will probably insist on BBBJ if she wants to get more business.

LuvPanamaBabes
02-19-18, 00:10
Finally just had to relent and paid $150 last night. Tried to get her to lower to $130 no luck. I can't remember if I have ever had sexo with a columbian this maybe was my first time. I have to say it was fantastic service even with CBJ. Also she didn't allow DATY she said she worries about infection from saliva? Never heard that one before. But she was very pretty and did good deepthroat. Will probably insist on BBBJ if she wants to get more business.Many hot women, got quoted as high as $200. You have to remember there professionals, they want as much money as possible.

I held out and found a very hot girl for a 2 hour session, with BBBJ for $100.00.

Member #4722
02-19-18, 03:00
Many hot women, got quoted as high as $200. You have to remember there professionals, they want as much money as possible.

I held out and found a very hot girl for a 2 hour session, with BBBJ for $100.00.Awesome man I need to hold firm. My wingman got an all-nighter for $200.

HarvestBoi
02-19-18, 06:10
Finally just had to relent and paid $150 last night. Tried to get her to lower to $130 no luck. I can't remember if I have ever had sexo with a columbian this maybe was my first time. I have to say it was fantastic service even with CBJ. Also she didn't allow DATY she said she worries about infection from saliva? Never heard that one before. But she was very pretty and did good deepthroat. Will probably insist on BBBJ if she wants to get more business.One of the reasons I found Panama disappointing. There were nights at Habanos where I was quoted similar numbers. And I went home alone and unfucked. Some of the hottest chicas wouldn't consider BBBJ for any price. CBJ Is a deal killer. I'the rather jerk off and save the money LOL.

Member #4722
02-19-18, 08:46
One of the reasons I found Panama disappointing. There were nights at Habanos where I was quoted similar numbers. And I went home alone and unfucked. Some of the hottest chicas wouldn't consider BBBJ for any price. CBJ Is a deal killer. I'the rather jerk off and save the money LOL.Went to La Boca had a pretty average session with a black girl $100 for two hours the girl was blowing up my phone all day so I thought I might get GFE but alas it was a CBJ session. A shame BBBJ is hard to get here because the ladies seem to be excellent at deep BJ.

Mr Enternational
02-19-18, 10:11
Many hot women, got quoted as high as $200. You have to remember there professionals, they want as much money as possible.

I held out and found a very hot girl for a 2 hour session, with BBBJ for $100.00.No. What you have to remember is that they leave their countries to get more money abroad. As Yip said, if she was back home in Colombia you could have her for $60 (and I would talk her down from that) for all night.


She was really hot but I shouldn't have to pay more than $100 for pussy here.Good lord. I have never paid close to $100 for pussy anywhere on this planet. Have you been to La Mayor?

Member #4722
02-19-18, 17:23
Good lord. I have never paid close to $100 for pussy anywhere on this planet. Have you been to La Mayor?Not yet but I plan to check it out today or tomorrow.

LuvPanamaBabes
02-19-18, 18:10
Not yet but I plan to check it out today or tomorrow.I had a great time at La Mayor! Banged a pretty Colombian for $20, and she was into it!

Member #4722
02-21-18, 03:37
Wow. Posting this report from outside La Boca. I saw this girl last night super thick black curly hair she is probably the most attractive girl I have seen at any of the hooker clubs. Came here specifically for her. I approached her and offered to buy her a drink and she said no gracias and completely blew me off. I smiled at another interesting girl (thick tall girl) and she didn't even give me a smile back. Approached another hot girl (I don't speak Spanish) and gave her a hip thrust to let her know my intentions and she shook her head no. I consider myself an above-average looking guy so not sure what the deal is. I have a couple girls here pissed off at me (one I blew off after a mediocre session and one from last night where maybe I negotiated too hard) so maybe I got blacklisted? Bizare. Well the curly haired beauty just walked by while I was typing this and smiled and waved goodbye so maybe I will try again with this girl tomorrow and be more forward. Wow this lady is so hot for my tastes a solid 9. She was having an intense conversation with some local guy maybe she had novio problems. Maybe I should straight out offer her $200 for an all nighter as that seems to be the going rate at La Boca.

Edit : The beauty has thick hair but she is skinny and oh so hot

YippieKayay
02-21-18, 04:07
Wow. Posting this report from outside La Boca. I saw this girl last night super thick black curly hair she is probably the most attractive girl I have seen at any of the hooker clubs. Came here specifically for her. I approached her and offered to buy her a drink and she said no gracias and completely blew me off. I smiled at another interesting girl (thick tall girl) and she didn't even give me a smile back. Approached another hot girl (I don't speak Spanish) and gave her a hip thrust to let her know my intentions and she shook her head no. I consider myself an above-average looking guy so not sure what the deal is. I have a couple girls here pissed off at me (one I blew off after a mediocre session and one from last night where maybe I negotiated too hard) so maybe I got blacklisted? Bizare.
Are you drunk by any chance? Hard liquor? They may not feel comfortable if they think you're plastered.



Maybe I should straight out offer her $200 for an all nighter as that seems to be the going rate at La Boca.
Even for Panama you're clearly being ripped off.

Member #4722
02-21-18, 04:22
Are you drunk by any chance? Hard liquor? They may not feel comfortable if they think you're plastered.

Even for Panama you're clearly being ripped off.Stone cold sober. Maybe I will start off with a lower offer my negotiations have not worked out well so far.

Member #4722
02-21-18, 05:14
Are you drunk by any chance? Hard liquor? They may not feel comfortable if they think you're plastered.

Even for Panama you're clearly being ripped off.I was drunk last night but I can handle my liquor and was not outwardly obnoxious but I was trying to get with this chica back to the Hyatt. She was insisting I make it a threesome $70 x 2 with her unattractive friend and I made the pantomime like would they lick each others pussy and they said yes. I told them to kiss to prove it and they acted so offended. I just wanted the one girl anyways. Seemed like too much drama with this girl so I said adios.

YippieKayay
02-21-18, 05:53
I was drunk last night but I can handle my liquor and was not outwardly obnoxious but I was trying to get with this chica back to the Hyatt. She was insisting I make it a threesome $70 x 2 with her unattractive friend and I made the pantomime like would they lick each others pussy and they said yes. I told them to kiss to prove it and they acted so offended. I just wanted the one girl anyways. Seemed like too much drama with this girl so I said adios.They probably thought you wanted to lick their vaginas. I can see how they got offended. The culture in LATAM tends to be more conservative, despite what you see, and homosexuality is not as widely accepted. In fact its rare to get two chicas to kiss each other even when you have them in your room. Honestly, I'm not there so I can't tell for sure but I think you're coming off a bit wrong to them. I'd tone things down a little. Have a beer. Be cool. And use google translate to communicate instead of sign language.

I've never seen anyone get turned down in LATAM by a hooker except one guy who was so drunk he could barely walk or talk. There was one Brazilian garota in Sao Paolo who turned me away and said no to me but I was pretty wasted at the time.

Mr Enternational
02-21-18, 06:45
Wow. Posting this report from outside La Boca. I saw this girl last night super thick black curly hair she is probably the most attractive girl I have seen at any of the hooker clubs. Came here specifically for her. I approached her and offered to buy her a drink and she said no gracias and completely blew me off. Maybe I should straight out offer her $200 for an all nighter as that seems to be the going rate at La Boca.They are hookers man; you shouldn't have to try that hard. Fuck drinks. They are there for money. Just walk up to one and say vamos (let's go). She will say cuanto (how much). You say dime tu (you tell me) to see where her head is at. I don't know the going rates, but like I said, in over 1000 hookers worldwide, I have never given one close to $100, (even in expensive ass Dubai we got some Ethiopian chicks for 30 bucks) and you are mentioning $200 in a third world country? If she says a high ass price, laugh and say claro que no (no way) and make your counter offer. Remember, if you are not embarassed by your offer, then you are offering too much.

The only way you take 2 girls in a non-controlled environment is if it your idea and/or you speak the language. There is a high propensity for them to steal shit from you otherwise. Plus like someone in another thread recently said, why pay each chick the single amount when they are going to do half the work that they would if they were working alone?

Member #4722
02-21-18, 09:59
They probably thought you wanted to lick their vaginas. I can see how they got offended. The culture in LATAM tends to be more conservative, despite what you see, and homosexuality is not as widely accepted. In fact its rare to get two chicas to kiss each other even when you have them in your room. Honestly, I'm not there so I can't tell for sure but I think you're coming off a bit wrong to them. I'd tone things down a little. Have a beer. Be cool. And use google translate to communicate instead of sign language.

I've never seen anyone get turned down in LATAM by a hooker except one guy who was so drunk he could barely walk or talk. There was one Brazilian garota in Sao Paolo who turned me away and said no to me but I was pretty wasted at the time.Don't want to get in a pissing match with you but that's ridiculous that you are criticizing me for trying to get good service. I just wanted to go with the one girl. I think maybe because I am 6-4 240 she maybe wanted her Amiga to stay safe. She wouldn't agree to what I wanted so I walked. The kissing thing maybe went a bit too far but I have no interest in a three way unless the girls are into each other.

Member #4722
02-21-18, 10:13
They are hookers man; you shouldn't have to try that hard. Fuck drinks. They are there for money. Just walk up to one and say vamos (let's go). She will say cuanto (how much). You say dime tu (you tell me) to see where her head is at. I don't know the going rates, but like I said, in over 1000 hookers worldwide, I have never given one close to $100, (even in expensive ass Dubai we got some Ethiopian chicks for 30 bucks) and you are mentioning $200 in a third world country? If she says a high ass price, laugh and say claro que no (no way) and make your counter offer. Remember, if you are not embarassed by your offer, then you are offering too much.

The only way you take 2 girls in a non-controlled environment is if it your idea and/or you speak the language. There is a high propensity for them to steal shit from you otherwise. Plus like someone in another thread recently said, why pay each chick the single amount when they are going to do half the work that they would if they were working alone?I have never been denied either. Maybe I should have been more forward with the chica. I have three more days to try again. You can read my reports I am well traveled and no sucker. The price I mentioned was what some other girl quoted me at Boca. $20/15 minutes on site. $40 for 30. $60 for hour and $200 all night. I didn't negotiate with the hottie but that is a fair price for all night for a beautiful woman anywhere in the world.

Anyways this city is expensive. I had two sessions tonight with 7. 5 Columbians. Both great sessions but not GFE. The first girl wouldn't budge on price I got $200/2 hours. The other girl at closing agreed to $100 she was the prettiest so far. She left after just one hour.

Mongering in foreign countries is an everyday learning experience and every day I get better. But if I am sticking to my original plan to not go over $100 I will go home disappointed.

Hope to post a positive report for the Boca curly haired girl. She looks like Gina from Scarface.

YippieKayay
02-21-18, 11:46
Don't want to get in a pissing match with you but that's ridiculous that you are criticizing me for trying to get good service. I just wanted to go with the one girl. I think maybe because I am 6-4 240 she maybe wanted her Amiga to stay safe. She wouldn't agree to what I wanted so I walked. The kissing thing maybe went a bit too far but I have no interest in a three way unless the girls are into each other.I wasn't criticizing anything. I was telling you why it would offend them. But hey, you got turned down by Colombian hookers in Panama city. What do I know?

Mr Enternational
02-21-18, 16:44
The price I mentioned was what some other girl quoted me at Boca. $20/15 minutes on site. $40 for 30. $60 for hour and $200 all night. I didn't negotiate with the hottie but that is a fair price for all night for a beautiful woman anywhere in the world.

Anyways this city is expensive. I had two sessions tonight with 7. 5 Columbians. Both great sessions but not GFE. The first girl wouldn't budge on price I got $200/2 hours. The other girl at closing agreed to $100 she was the prettiest so far. She left after just one hour.

Mongering in foreign countries is an everyday learning experience and every day I get better. But if I am sticking to my original plan to not go over $100 I will go home disappointed.This is a recurring theme on ISG. Let me first say that Panama is not at all expensive. If you are a tourist staying in fancy hotels then maybe it can get expensive. If you are living there, then of course not. I have not been to Panama in about 3 years. Before I was going regularly because I had 3 girlfriends there.

The first was Colombian and has been working there in a factory for quite a while. When I would come to see her I would stay at Europa Hotel for $30 then started staying at Arcos love motel for I think $25.

The second was Panamanian. She sold condos for a living. Whenever I was there I would stay in her apartment. She had a car so there was no problem getting around. I helped her get a visa and she came to visit me in the States twice. Each time I paid for half her ticket.

The third one was also Colombian. I met her years ago when she was living in Caracas. She has since lived in Curacao, Spain, and now Panama. She has been a hair dresser in the over 11 years that I have known her. She rents a room in someone's house, so I would stay at the Marriott or Courtyard at the mall when I would visit her.

From the airport, taxis were $20. To the airport, they were $15. (Last time I was there I took Uber back to the airport for I think $12) All around the city they were $1.25. One morning my girlfriend dropped me off at the airport then she headed to work. I doubled back to see a side chick that I was dealing with. I did not take a taxi, but instead took the bus for 25 cents.

The minimum wage in Panama is $416/month. So to give someone half of a month's wages for 1 night is hmmm. In the USA the minimum wage is $1305/month. Keeping along the same lines, you would give a hooker in the USA $627 for 1 night. It seems like an okay comparison until you bring in the fact that prostitution is legal in Panama and illegal in the USA (barring the Nevada ripoff spots.) And we all know that whenever something is illegal we have to pay a whole lot more for it. (As a sidenote, I heard that a certain grade of weed was going for $1600/pound before it became legal in California. The day that it was legalized the price plummeted to $200/pound.) So paying half a month's wages for a legal service makes no sense at all.

You would be hard pressed to find a local that was not a drug dealer or high roller businessman to give a hooker $200. I am no longer shocked when foreigners roll in to any third world town and want to give away the farm. When I first started going to Brazil in 2002, I would get chicks for $25 all night. From reading reports I think chicks want at least $200 nowadays. I started going to the Dominican Republic in 2006. Giving chicks there $25 for all night and I would have to put them out because they would try to stay. Keep in mind that a police officer there makes $125/month, meanwhile recent reports have chicks asking for $100 short time over superbowl.

I have been living in Thailand for the last 8 years and thankfully there are so many hookers here that there has not been a problem getting chicks all night for the same $30 that I always have. The minimum wage here is $10/day, but you are only making that much if you are a high school graduate and have like a cushy job at 7 Eleven. So for most laypeople it is more like $6/day. Chick prices and wages run about the same in Philippines. So I am giving chicks 10% of the monthly minimum wage for all night, instead of the 50% that mongers are giving in places like Panama, Brazil, and Costa Rica. That, to me, seems more plausible and within perspective.

When you read the reports in this section you see the chick was Colombian, Venezuelan, Dominican, but you never see any reports about Panamanians. I once heard that it was illegal for Panamanians to be hookers although after doing a search online I can find nothing that says that. As I was saying before, chicks are traveling to where someone will pay them more money. Two years ago I was in a club in Peru and a Colombian chick told me $100 for short time. I started laughing and said why would I do that when I could just go to Bogota and fuck your cousin for $8? She started laughing and gave me a high 5. So why are guys going to Panama and paying all this money for foreign chicks when they can just go to where they are from and get them for much cheaper? It is not like Panama is a great vacation destination or anything.

(I haven't been to La Mayor in many many years. Chicks were $10 back then. The entire area has since had a makover.

LOL. I think me and Yip are both about to have heart attacks when you mention giving a Colombian chick $200 (574K Colombian Pesos) for 2 hours. Especially since I fucked a chick in Bogota for $10 (30K COP) for 30 minutes last month).

Seriously, you would have come out cheaper buying a plane ticket to Medellin or Bogota from Panama for a couple of days than you would giving those chicks $100 or $200 a pop.

Member #4722
02-21-18, 19:34
Panama was not my first choice. I have been to Costa Rica four times so wanted to try something different. I wanted to go to Lima but my friend insisted on Panama and he didn't even make the trip! I came here 15 years ago and fucked local girls for free but now this is much harder nearing 50 years old. I do like the nightlife here and regular clubs. Probably won't return for mongering. Habanos is the top place for beautiful women and they charge what they charge. I tried to haggle too much my first night and came up empty handed. That is not what I am on vacation for.

Almost every monger on this forum gets the hottest girls for the cheapest price and has sex 8 X a day and the girls fall in love. I simply post my honest experience good or bad in order to help out other travellers.

Dickhead
02-21-18, 20:53
The minimum wage in Panama is $416/month. So to give someone half of a month's wages for 1 night is hmmm. In the USA the minimum wage is $1305/month. I got $1,256.67: $7.25 an hour times 52 times 40, divided by 12. But many states (29 plus DC) have higher minimum wages, as do some counties and cities.


You would be hard pressed to find a local that was not a drug dealer or high roller businessman to give a hooker $200. You would be hard pressed to find a local that did not speak Spanish. Might affect negotiating ability, as well as the hooker's desire to spend a lot of time with a particular gentleman. That does raise the question of why anyone would want to negotiate a TLN with someone they had never fucked before, with whom they could not communicate well. That has never made any sense to me. But à chacun son goût, as they say in France.

Mr Enternational
02-21-18, 21:35
That does raise the question of why anyone would want to negotiate a TLN with someone they had never fucked before, with whom they could not communicate well. That has never made any sense to me. But chacun son got, as they say in France.It depends on the circumstances. 99% of my TLNs have been "natural" TLNs and are not even negotiated. It is when I am at a disco or bar until 3 am and get a girl to come with me. I say natural because you both have been out partying, you go back to the room, do your thing, fall asleep, and wake up and do it again before she goes home or you decide you want to hang out more. In general TLN aka Long Time is not discussed in this situation. It just always turns out that way.

Mr Enternational
02-21-18, 21:45
I do like the nightlife here and regular clubs. Probably won't return for mongering. Habanos is the top place for beautiful women and they charge what they charge. I tried to haggle too much my first night and came up empty handed. That is not what I am on vacation for.

Almost every monger on this forum gets the hottest girls for the cheapest price and has sex 8 X a day and the girls fall in love. I simply post my honest experience good or bad in order to help out other travellers.I know what you mean bro. You didn't make the prices into what they are and there is damn sure nothing you can do to change them. The only choice you have is pay what they will take or go home with your dick in your hand as you did the one night. It is just unfortunate that all the monger destinations are falling 1 by 1 into the same crap; mainly because people choose to go places and compare what it would cost back home instead of thinking what it actually costs locally.

Dickhead
02-21-18, 23:28
It depends on the circumstances. 99% of my TLNs have been "natural" TLNs and are not even negotiated. It is when I am at a disco or bar until 3 am and get a girl to come with me. I say natural because you both have been out partying, you go back to the room, do your thing, fall asleep, and wake up and do it again before she goes home or you decide you want to hang out more. In general TLN aka Long Time is not discussed in this situation. It just always turns out that way.Correcto. These women do not want to go back to their barrios late at night, and will often stay with you for no extra money. Feeding them breakfast in the morning would be bastante caballero. Personally I prefer them to leave 90% of the time, and sometimes they will beg to stay, but I don't let them. Mi casa, mis reglas.

Now I forget if it was this forum or not, but when the chica wants / insists that her friend, be she ugly or not, accompany you, that is often an indication that you are dealing with an equipo de ladronas. Unless they are gay hot for each other, they want to tag team you so they can rob you or cause other problems. Avoid.

Member #4722
02-21-18, 23:37
Correcto. These women do not want to go back to their barrios late at night, and will often stay with you for no extra money. Feeding them breakfast in the morning would be bastante caballero. Personally I prefer them to leave 90% of the time, and sometimes they will beg to stay, but I don't let them. Mi casa, mis reglas.

Now I forget if it was this forum or not, but when the chica wants / insists that her friend, be she ugly or not, accompany you, that is often an indication that you are dealing with an equipo de ladronas. Unless they are gay hot for each other, they want to tag team you so they can rob you or cause other problems. Avoid.Great advice. Did not have a good feeling about these two and glad I walked. Only had one good threesome in mongering (only tried a few) and even the good one fell below expectations.

Member #4722
02-22-18, 10:35
Was more forward with "Gina from Scarface" it was a slam dunk. She doesn't drink and is shy I think that was the problem before $60 for an hour it was mediocre session for service but for looks a top 5 of all time. Going to repeat for sure! Felt like there is potential for better service.

Mfins
02-23-18, 06:41
I know what you mean bro. You didn't make the prices into what they are and there is damn sure nothing you can do to change them. The only choice you have is pay what they will take or go home with your dick in your hand as you did the one night. It is just unfortunate that all the monger destinations are falling 1 by 1 into the same crap; mainly because people choose to go places and compare what it would cost back home instead of thinking what it actually costs locally.There is one other way to look at it. The hot Colombian / Venezuelans etc. Girls would never fly too and work in places like Panama if not for the higher prices they can charge.

An entire industry was born in places you would never think because a gringo tourist was willing to pay 10 x the amount they could get back home.

I will say I have my stories to of back in the day. Prices used to be lower and service / attitude used to be much better but, keep in mind a secret doesn't stay a secret for long and, as much as we want it too stay underground and cheap it usually never does.

Member #4722
02-23-18, 10:29
Anyone coming to panama soon and wants to fuck a model type go to La Boca to met Luz rom Venezuela. Service at least for me was lacking I never go for the really beautiful nes because more often than not this is the case. You can't miss this girl she has about 5 kilos of the most beautiful curly hair you have ever seen. She really should be a model. Her sister works there too they are the two hottest by far at La Boca. Her sister has blonde curly hair she had mediocre service as well.

Mr Enternational
02-23-18, 12:16
You can't miss this girl she has about 5 kilos of the most beautiful curly hair you have ever seen. She really should be a model.LOL. I take this with a grain of salt. In one of my favorite shows, 90 Day Fiance, this cat from Phoenix went to the Philippines and found a chick to bring back to marry. He kept saying how she needs to be a model. Mind you she had no aspirations of this. But he finally talked her in to going to the modeling agency. So he heads down there with her in tow. You should have seen the look on the people's faces at the modeling agency. And I think I could hear one of them whisper to him that the optometrist was two doors down. That girl didn't last 3 minutes in front of that camera.

Member #4722
02-23-18, 18:57
LOL. I take this with a grain of salt. In one of my favorite shows, 90 Day Fiance, this cat from Phoenix went to the Philippines and found a chick to bring back to marry. He kept saying how she needs to be a model. Mind you she had no aspirations of this. But he finally talked her in to going to the modeling agency. So he heads down there with her in tow. You should have seen the look on the people's faces at the modeling agency. And I think I could hear one of them whisper to him that the optometrist was two doors down. That bich didn't last 3 minutes in front of that camera.Everyone has different tastes. I won't post a picture out of respect for the lady. She is really beautiful. She has the model "look". Here are literally millions of models in the world it's not like that is some huge reach to have model good looks. If I was going to embellish wouldn't say the session went great? And I don't care what you think but thanks for your contribution.

The Cane
02-23-18, 19:09
LOL. I take this with a grain of salt. In one of my favorite shows, 90 Day Fiance, this cat from Phoenix went to the Philippines and found a chick to bring back to marry. He kept saying how she needs to be a model. Mind you she had no aspirations of this. But he finally talked her in to going to the modeling agency. So he heads down there with her in tow. You should have seen the look on the people's faces at the modeling agency..And then there was the one from Brazil who was indeed pretty enough to be a model. Her fiance was concerned and really didn't want her to do it, I'm sure partly out of fear that he would lose her. I don't watch the show too much anymore. Got tired of watching people do stupid shit! Anyway, wonder what happened to those two?

Member #4722
02-24-18, 16:30
Just checked out of Hyatt Place. They said effective two days ago the guest fee is now $30. I guess I was grandfathered in and was only charged $15 since I checked in before the new rate started. Those fuckers added three extra guests onto my bill so check those receipts guys!

Will post a full report soon.

Sargent 50
02-25-18, 01:49
Does anyone know if the Marriott executive apartments are girl friendly considering it's an apartment.

DarkSide99
02-25-18, 05:47
I'll be heading to Panama at the end of March or earlier April. Trying to decide if I should go the week before Easter and stay until Good Friday, or should I arrive on Easter Monday and stay for a week.

Anyone have any experience in PTY right before or right after Easter?

Any help would be appreciated. I've been to panama numerous times but never during Easter.

The Cane
02-25-18, 07:33
I'll be heading to Panama at the end of March or earlier April. Trying to decide if I should go the week before Easter and stay until Good Friday, or should I arrive on Easter Monday and stay for a week.

Anyone have any experience in PTY right before or right after Easter?

Any help would be appreciated. I've been to panama numerous times but never during Easter.Different year, different guy, same question. Besides Christmas and New Year's, this is the absolute worst time to go mongering in Latin America! Many, many, many of the girls go home for "La Semana Santa". Therefore, do not plan a mongering trip to Latin America around Easter. And then somebody always has to chime in, "There are always girls available". Yeah, but you're talking about some of the weakest line-ups for the entire year! It's a bad time to go. So don't! I remember one time some rookie coming in here asking for advice and not listening. Think his destination was Costa Rica. Went down there during Easter week, then came back in here complaining that he wasted his time and money. Well, some of us tried to tell his hard-headed ass! Do not plan a mongering trip to Latin America during or around La Semana Santa! Many of the girls will leave to go home just before that week. If you show up just after that week, many will not have returned yet. And of course, during that week they are absent. If you do go, then proceed at your own peril, and lower expectations.

Style Dogg
03-01-18, 01:44
Was recently in Panama and always stay at the Marriott just across the street. Never ever had any problems bring friends in the hotel.

I was very disappointed with the quality of talent at Habaneros, poor very poor. It was getting late so I made a less than desirable selection. We walk across the street are going through the lobby, almost to the elevators. She slams on the brakes and says "I forgot to register". I tell her no don't worry about it, she runs back to the concierge and speaks to him. He calls me over and now wants my room number, when I asked why he says so I can put a $30 dollar charge on your room. Well I've been staying in this hotel for the past 5 years and never had this. I told him in a very vocal voice to fuck off and told that trifling little scamming ***** to VETE.

StudBucket
03-03-18, 03:04
Hello Gents,

I was in Panama City last year (May 2017) with some friends and when I went to Habano's and The Veneto Hotel Bar where we were able to negotiate short time for $100 to $125 max. I just had another group of friends go there about a month ago and they stated that many of the girls are holding firm and quoting $150 -$200. Can anyone verify that prices have risen back up and girls are less willing to negotiate or did anyone else go recently and have some pricing that is in the low $100's range?

We plan on going there and Havana in May of this year, but if prices have risen to $150 plus we may reconsider another destination to go with Havana.

Thanks.

SB.

LuvPanamaBabes
03-03-18, 15:54
Hello Gents,

I was in Panama City last year (May 2017) with some friends and when I went to Habano's and The Veneto Hotel Bar where we were able to negotiate short time for $100 to $125 max. I just had another group of friends go there about a month ago and they stated that many of the girls are holding firm and quoting $150 -$200. Can anyone verify that prices have risen back up and girls are less willing to negotiate or did anyone else go recently and have some pricing that is in the low $100's range?

We plan on going there and Havana in May of this year, but if prices have risen to $150 plus we may reconsider another destination to go with Havana.

Thanks.

SB.I was there less than 3 weeks ago.

Was quoted $200.00 for 1 hour many times, you just have to hold firm at $100.00 and I get 2 hours for that.

With the hottest ones.

They always say, don't tell anyone that you paid that price, LOL!

It's a game just like when you buy a car, they want all of your money!

LuvPanamaBabes
03-03-18, 16:06
Hello Gents,

I was in Panama City last year (May 2017) with some friends and when I went to Habano's and The Veneto Hotel Bar where we were able to negotiate short time for $100 to $125 max. I just had another group of friends go there about a month ago and they stated that many of the girls are holding firm and quoting $150 -$200. Can anyone verify that prices have risen back up and girls are less willing to negotiate or did anyone else go recently and have some pricing that is in the low $100's range?

We plan on going there and Havana in May of this year, but if prices have risen to $150 plus we may reconsider another destination to go with Havana.

Thanks.

SB.I know some of the members of this forum, equate quality of service, by what you pay, my experiences are different.

The last one I picked, stayed at my room for a little more than 2 hours, we drank, danced, I shot a video of her dancing, had.

Very passionate sex all for $100!

I'm actually still in contact with her on WhatsApp.

I have been told by strippers in America, that they have no respect for guys that throw money at them.

They consider them suckers!

Member #4722
03-03-18, 17:23
Hello Gents,

I was in Panama City last year (May 2017) with some friends and when I went to Habano's and The Veneto Hotel Bar where we were able to negotiate short time for $100 to $125 max. I just had another group of friends go there about a month ago and they stated that many of the girls are holding firm and quoting $150 -$200. Can anyone verify that prices have risen back up and girls are less willing to negotiate or did anyone else go recently and have some pricing that is in the low $100's range?

We plan on going there and Havana in May of this year, but if prices have risen to $150 plus we may reconsider another destination to go with Havana.

Thanks.

SB.Yes this is true. Read my recent reports. Best bet for $100 is to wait until closing time.

StudBucket
03-03-18, 21:26
Thanks LuvPanamaBabes and Rog123 for the intel on pricing. It seems you really have to negotiate hard but be prepared to walk away if some hold firm. I guess LuvPanamaBabes got some for $100. I do recall a couple of chicks last trip holding firm on pricing and I had to walk away. We have to remember that many of these girls will just save face instead of accepting a reasonable offer like $100 or $120 which tells me they have no business sense as they are risking going home alone. Maybe my fluency in Spanish and above average looks will help me somewhat, sounds like I will really need it, lol.

Member #4722
03-04-18, 01:09
Thanks LuvPanamaBabes and Rog123 for the intel on pricing. It seems you really have to negotiate hard but be prepared to walk away if some hold firm. I guess LuvPanamaBabes got some for $100. I do recall a couple of chicks last trip holding firm on pricing and I had to walk away. We have to remember that many of these girls will just save face instead of accepting a reasonable offer like $100 or $120 which tells me they have no business sense as they are risking going home alone. Maybe my fluency in Spanish and above average looks will help me somewhat, sounds like I will really need it, lol.One really hot Venezuelan who I met on my first night was asking 160 and I walked away. On my last night got her for 120 no negotiation. Had two others for 100 (one BBBJ) but met both ladies around closing time.

JL Miami
03-05-18, 16:58
Thanks LuvPanamaBabes and Rog123 for the intel on pricing. It seems you really have to negotiate hard but be prepared to walk away if some hold firm. I guess LuvPanamaBabes got some for $100. I do recall a couple of chicks last trip holding firm on pricing and I had to walk away. We have to remember that many of these girls will just save face instead of accepting a reasonable offer like $100 or $120 which tells me they have no business sense as they are risking going home alone. Maybe my fluency in Spanish and above average looks will help me somewhat, sounds like I will really need it, lol.Well, we're not talking about airline seats here. If you were an escort, would you rather be with one guy every two days for $200 or one guy each day for $100?

Dickhead
03-05-18, 20:51
Well, we're not talking about airline seats here. If you were an escort, would you rather be with one guy every two days for $200 or one guy each day for $100?Which of the two would give the chica a better chance of finding a regular customer? Which of the two would result in her getting more drinks, meals, etc? Now if the chica could achieve this result by only showing up every two days, that would be one thing, but since she has to incur the fixed transportation, baby sitting, and opportunity costs in any case, it in fact starts to look more like an airplane that has to fly anyway.

Lee
03-06-18, 04:16
Which of the two would give the chica a better chance of finding a regular customer? Which of the two would result in her getting more drinks, meals, etc? Now if the chica could achieve this result by only showing up every two days, that would be one thing, but since she has to incur the fixed transportation, baby sitting, and opportunity costs in any case, it in fact starts to look more like an airplane that has to fly anyway.With all due respect:

If any one thinks these girls are using logic or economics in the decision-making process you be so wrong.

It's all about status. That status among their peers.

In every transaction there are three prices. The one he said he pain, the one she said he paid and the actual prize.

Lee.

Lakeside32
03-07-18, 18:12
My only trip to Panama I was barely 18 in the army national guard during the very beginning of the gulf war, I was there a month and never spent more than $20 for a lady. Now turn the page 30 yrs later and the going rate is $150. I have a trip to another central american country and I could choose panama as a long layover. So should I give it a try for a day?

ThrillSeeker69
03-09-18, 12:04
Just checked out of Hyatt Place. They said effective two days ago the guest fee is now $30. I guess I was grandfathered in and was only charged $15 since I checked in before the new rate started. Those fuckers added three extra guests onto my bill so check those receipts guys!

Will post a full report soon.I'm in Panama City right now and staying at the Hyatt. I confirmed with the person at the front desk and he said that the charge was only $15 still.

JL Miami
03-09-18, 18:28
My only trip to Panama I was barely 18 in the army national guard during the very beginning of the gulf war, I was there a month and never spent more than $20 for a lady. Now turn the page 30 yrs later and the going rate is $150. I have a trip to another central american country and I could choose panama as a long layover. So should I give it a try for a day?Panama is the most expensive country in Central America. There are few bargains for anything in Panama these days. (If you haven't been to Panama City in over 15 years, you won't recognize it.).

HectorPF
03-09-18, 18:37
Don't want to get in a pissing match with you but that's ridiculous that you are criticizing me for trying to get good service. I just wanted to go with the one girl. I think maybe because I am 6-4 240 she maybe wanted her Amiga to stay safe. She wouldn't agree to what I wanted so I walked. The kissing thing maybe went a bit too far but I have no interest in a three way unless the girls are into each other.Thanks for on the ground reports Rog. This info is a lot more important than people on other continents chastising those supplying live information.

As far as pricing, you will never get Colombia prices in Panama (when you compare quality of girls). Sure, you can get $15 or $20 bangs at Boca, but they are not the quality of $15 bangs in Colombia. Like others have said, they come to Panama to make more money, not to charge what they can make back home.

It is common for them to ask $150-200 at Habanos. The easiest way to get $100 high quality girls at Habanos is to show up later (that way they are not in as big a rush to try to fit multiple men in at that later hour and are ready to settle for less) on a non peak night and stick to your guns on $100. Just say "cien, no mas". You may have to go through 3-5 girls, but youll find a hottie for $100 eventually.

Dickhead
03-09-18, 19:17
My only trip to Panama I was barely 18 in the army national guard during the very beginning of the gulf war, I was there a month and never spent more than $20 for a lady. Now turn the page 30 yrs later and the going rate is $150. I have a trip to another central american country and I could choose panama as a long layover. So should I give it a try for a day?The going rate ain't $150. It is $100 and so that would be 5. 5% annual inflation over 30 years. High by US standards but not by Latin Américan standards. I have never even paid $100 at Hábanos, although it has been a year and half. So maybe I would now, but not $150. And I guarantee you I would get a decent chica every night for that. Every trip I read about the going rate being X, and every trip I never pay that. Maybe my Spanish is better. Maybe my negotiating skills are better. Maybe I have more patience. Maybe all of the above. I don't know. Last I heard, minimum wage in Panamá was about $2. 50 an hour so any woman who doesn't want to spend an hour with me for a week's wages, NEXT PLEASE! And that ain't even considering the Venezuela effect.

Member #4722
03-09-18, 19:35
I'm in Panama City right now and staying at the Hyatt. I confirmed with the person at the front desk and he said that the charge was only $15 still.Maybe the manager didn't want us to come back and lied to me. My wingman wifed up the first night and this girl went crazy one night (drunk) and smashed up his hotel room. Cops were called and he had to pay $600 for damage. This didn't involve me but maybe guilty by association.

YippieKayay
03-09-18, 19:46
Maybe the manager didn't want us to come back and lied to me. My wingman wifed up the first night and this girl went crazy one night (drunk) and smashed up his hotel room. Cops were called and he had to pay $600 for damage. This didn't involve me but maybe guilty by association.Please tell us more about the drunk chica who smashed up the room. Seriously, I've never heard of chicas doing stuff like this. Was she Colombian?

Mr Enternational
03-09-18, 20:11
Every trip I read about the going rate being X, and every trip I never pay that. Maybe my Spanish is better. Maybe my negotiating skills are better. Maybe I have more patience. Maybe all of the above.It is the same story throughout ISG. Guys think that if they negotiate with a chick then she will give them worse service. Others are even embarrassed to try to talk the price down, yet aren't shy to be going with a prostitute. While others say that negotiating breaks the vibe they have going with the hooker. So they end up paying the inflated initial price that they are given.

Member #4722
03-09-18, 20:30
Please tell us more about the drunk chica who smashed up the room. Seriously, I've never heard of chicas doing stuff like this. Was she Colombian?Yes she was. The three of us went out drinking and she had been drinking all day already and matched me drink for drink and I can drink a lot. Went outside to have a smoke at a club in Casco Viejo and she was crying and they were arguing so I got the hell out of there. Evidently she got jealous on him. I get a call at 5 am they are in the lobby of the hotel with the cops. Even though they knew the chica was at fault they tried to fleece my buddy for 3000 in damages. He got them down to 600. They had agreed on 200 all night and she tried to demand 300 from him, which he reluctantly paid, and that was another point of contention. She met him the next day to apologize profusely and he demanded that she bring the $100 she stole from him (above the agreed price). Of course she was so sorry for her actions but forgot the $100.

JL Miami
03-09-18, 20:53
Maybe the manager didn't want us to come back and lied to me. My wingman wifed up the first night and this girl went crazy one night (drunk) and smashed up his hotel room. Cops were called and he had to pay $600 for damage. This didn't involve me but maybe guilty by association.And now we know the rest of the story.


Yes she was. The three of us went out drinking and she had been drinking all day already and matched me drink for drink and I can drink a lot. Went outside to have a smoke at a club in Casco Viejo and she was crying and they were arguing so I got the hell out of there. Evidently she got jealous on him. I get a call at 5 am they are in the lobby of the hotel with the cops. Even though they knew the chica was at fault they tried to fleece my buddy for 3000 in damages. He got them down to 600. They had agreed on 200 all night and she tried to demand 300 from him, which he reluctantly paid, and that was another point of contention. She met him the next day to apologize profusely and he demanded that she bring the $100 she stole from him (above the agreed price). Of course she was so sorry for her actions but forgot the $100.You expect the Hyatt to try to collect from an unregistered guest instead of the guy who brought the person in? LOL. Come on, man.

Dickhead
03-09-18, 21:51
They had agreed on 200 all night and she tried to demand 300 from him, which he reluctantly paidThat was some pretty good negotiating right there. Now your wingman will say that the 'going rate' must be 300 and not 200. I assume this gentleman is from the Yew Ess? Who wifes up on their first night in a mongering destination with a drunk chica? Who 'meets up the next day' with someone who trashed out their hotel room? You need to hit this guy upside the head with a sock full of nickels before you get to the outbound airport next time he wants to travel with you.

Member #4722
03-09-18, 21:59
That was some pretty good negotiating right there. Now your wingman will say that the 'going rate' must be 300 and not 200. I assume this gentleman is from the Yew Ess? Who wifes up on their first night in a mongering destination with a drunk chica? Who 'meets up the next day' with someone who trashed out their hotel room? You need to hit this guy upside the head with a sock full of nickels before you get to the outbound airport next time he wants to travel with you.I thought she was an awesome girl before this incident. Guess she showed her true colors. Like my buddy I always try to get a girl I get along well with and will see her multiple times for GFE. Didn't happen for me on this trip. When the girl is busting up his place with cops on the way and she is demanding $300 what is he going to do at that point? $200 I think is a fair negotiation in panama for a 24 hour date but he never did or would agree to 300. He is new to international mongering but I am sure he learned many lessons in this visit!

Dickhead
03-09-18, 22:32
So you are saying you knew her before but he did not? Kinda confused because you said it was his first night.

'When the girl is busting up his place with cops on the way and she is demanding $300 what is he going to do at that point?

Umm well, if the cops are already on the way, why give the ho another hundie? What purpose does that serve? I would have left the premises, actually, although this would never have happened to me because I would not have brought a drunk chica I had never met before up to my hotel room.

Unless I was drunk, of course. But I have the guts to physically throw a chica out of my room if necessary, although I have never had to do so. One time a chica passed out in my room and would not wake up and I pulled her and the sheets off the bed, dragged both out into the hall, pulled the sheets out from under her, and left her out there in the hallway. She was fully clothed. That was about as close as it came. I pulled her all the way down to the elevator so that she would be found more quickly. I think she shot up in my bathroom. That was forty years ago in Bogotá.

Now if you could explain why he agreed to meet her again, that might be instructive.

Member #4722
03-09-18, 23:16
So you are saying you knew her before but he did not? Kinda confused because you said it was his first night.

'When the girl is busting up his place with cops on the way and she is demanding $300 what is he going to do at that point?

Umm well, if the cops are already on the way, why give the ho another hundie? What purpose does that serve? I would have left the premises, actually, although this would never have happened to me because I would not have brought a drunk chica I had never met before up to my hotel room.

Unless I was drunk, of course. But I have the guts to physically throw a chica out of my room if necessary, although I have never had to do so. One time a chica passed out in my room and would not wake up and I pulled her and the sheets off the bed, dragged both out into the hall, pulled the sheets out from under her, and left her out there in the hallway. She was fully clothed. That was about as close as it came. I pulled her all the way down to the elevator so that she would be found more quickly. I think she shot up in my bathroom. That was forty years ago in Bogot.

Now if you could explain why he agreed to meet her again, that might be instructive.He met her the first day of a weeklong trip and this happened on his last day. He wanted to get his money is why he agreed to meet her.

YippieKayay
03-10-18, 02:17
I thought she was an awesome girl before this incident. Guess she showed her true colors. Like my buddy I always try to get a girl I get along well with and will see her multiple times for GFE. Didn't happen for me on this trip. When the girl is busting up his place with cops on the way and she is demanding $300 what is he going to do at that point? $200 I think is a fair negotiation in panama for a 24 hour date but he never did or would agree to 300. He is new to international mongering but I am sure he learned many lessons in this visit!I have to say. I'm really glad I monger in Colombia and haven't mongered in Panama for a couple of years now. In Colombia $300 is almost a million pesos. That would get you steady pussy for a week in some cities like Medellin.

Mfins
03-10-18, 04:27
The going rate ain't $150. It is $100 and so that would be 5. 5% annual inflation over 30 years. High by US standards but not by Latin Amrican standards. I have never even paid $100 at Hbanos, although it has been a year and half. So maybe I would now, but not $150. And I guarantee you I would get a decent chica every night for that. Every trip I read about the going rate being X, and every trip I never pay that. Maybe my Spanish is better. Maybe my negotiating skills are better. Maybe I have more patience. Maybe all of the above. I don't know. Last I heard, minimum wage in Panam was about $2. 50 an hour so any woman who doesn't want to spend an hour with me for a week's wages, NEXT PLEASE! And that ain't even considering the Venezuela effect.The Panamanians, the chunkys and, the low hanging fruit can be had for $80-$100.

No one unless you are Brad Pitt is walking out of Habanos with a smoking hot Colombian. (and guys who have been to Habanos know the girls I am talking about) for less than $150. Maybe just maybe on a slow and desperate night $125.

Mfins
03-10-18, 04:36
It is the same story throughout ISG. Guys think that if they negotiate with a chick then she will give them worse service. Others are even embarrassed to try to talk the price down, yet aren't shy to be going with a prostitute. While others say that negotiating breaks the vibe they have going with the hooker. So they end up paying the inflated initial price that they are given.
I agree Mr E. 100%. It is the most talked about subject on ISG and its, old.
However,
It really is someones preference how they want to handle the situation. Some people aren't good negotiators, some don't want to negotiate for sex, and some like me don't really care if I pay an extra $25 or so. In my business I will negotiate and deal to the last penny but, when I fly 2000 miles and am on vacation I am not worrying about a few extra dollars. Some people feel its a game or its part of the chase to negotiate and, be able to say wow I was able to bang this hot chick for the lowest price. I suppose some people get off on it and brag about it. Thats fine and too each their own. I have no problem with that but, to those of us who pay a little more than that should be fine to. The argument that the ones who pay more are ruining it for the rest of us just doesn't fly anymore. If its that much of an issue than I guess learn to negotiate better. Step up your game.

Dickhead
03-10-18, 09:27
He met her the first day of a weeklong trip and this happened on his last day. He wanted to get his money is why he agreed to meet her.OK. He wifed up the first night but this was not the first night. That makes (somewhat) more sense. Thanks for the clarification.

Dickhead
03-10-18, 09:30
The Panamanians, the chunkys and, the low hanging fruit can be had for $80-$100.

No one unless you are Brad Pitt is walking out of Habanos with a smoking hot Colombian. (and guys who have been to Habanos know the girls I am talking about) for less than $150. Maybe just maybe on a slow and desperate night $125.Well, I don't go for the colombianas, but rather the panameñas, since I don't like silicone. So perhaps that is why I am not paying those amounts of money. No chunkies for me though.

HectorPF
03-10-18, 18:33
Well, I don't go for the colombianas, but rather the panameas, since I don't like silicone. So perhaps that is why I am not paying those amounts of money. No chunkies for me though.But what percentage of the girls at Habanos are Panamanian? 5% maybe?

Yeah you can find Panamanian girls working elsewhere, that is more discreet, but not at Habanos. They don't want to be standing around with a bunch of Venezuelan girls in tiny skirts when their little brother or uncle walks in the place.

Dickhead
03-11-18, 14:22
In my experience, about 1 in 4 in Hábanos are panameñas, often from Colóand or David.

JL Miami
03-12-18, 06:40
In my experience, about 1 in 4 in Hbanos are panameas, often from Coland or David.Perhaps the demographics have changed recently, but I've met one woman from Panama in more than a dozen visits to Habanos.

Dickhead
03-12-18, 17:05
Perhaps the demographics have changed recently, but I've met one woman from Panama in more than a dozen visits to Habanos.Could be the venezolana effect. I dunno. I can smell a colombiana a mile away and don't talk to them, so maybe that skews my perception. Or yours, if you are mostly talking to silicone Sallys.

CatBert55
03-12-18, 19:50
The Marriott has begun charging a chica fee of $30. You can avoid the fee by reserving a room for 2 adults, but surprise, surprise, the room price goes up at least $25.

JL Miami
03-13-18, 05:51
When does the slow period start in Panama before Easter? Also, when the locals talk about "vacation," just how much of Panama shuts down and for how long?

Thanks.

GauntMan
03-16-18, 02:13
Gantman,

Are you panamanian? what part of panama are you from? Yo soy de La chorreraCity rat! XD.

GauntMan
03-16-18, 02:16
In my experience, about 1 in 4 in Hbanos are panameas, often from Coland or David.Panamenas?? For real?? Habanos is mainly a ground for colombianas (not too many recently) and venezuelans. Colombianas HATE venezuelans, because of them, the business has gone south, due to venezuelans going out for as low as 30 or even 20 if your game is good.

Mfins
03-16-18, 04:00
Panamenas?? For real?? Habanos is mainly a ground for colombianas (not too many recently) and venezuelans. Colombianas HATE venezuelans, because of them, the business has gone south, due to venezuelans going out for as low as 30 or even 20 if your game is good.Yes Panamanians can be found there. Usually darker skin. Its fairly easy to tell. I would say its still about 50-30-20. Fifty percent Colombian-Thirty percent Venezuelan-Twenty Percent other including a few Eastern European girls, Peruvian, Dom. Republic, Ticas and Nicas.

I have my doubts on the $20 thing but, if true I would hate to see what a $20 bill gets you.

Lee
03-16-18, 13:44
Arrived yesterday my guest arrives that evening and the charge was $30.00.

Lee.

Lee
03-16-18, 19:56
Arrived yesterday my guest arrives that evening and the charge was $30.00.

Lee.Now for the good news:

After my date left I had some dinner and did some window shopping. Everyone I spoke to with one exception seemed to be happy with $100. The exception was looking for 200 dollars but she wasn't that good looking anyway and would not have been worth the time it would take to negotiate.

Lee.

Frankfurt
03-16-18, 23:16
Was in PTY last year during Easter week. Habanos was closed on good Friday and the days around it, the talent at Habanos was ho hum but deals could be had for cien.


When does the slow period start in Panama before Easter? Also, when the locals talk about "vacation," just how much of Panama shuts down and for how long?

Thanks.

JL Miami
03-16-18, 23:17
I know it's subjective, but I believe the caliber of ladies is way down in Panama right now, and with the new visa rules, women seem to be in even more of a rush to get done and move on to the next client, so they can maximize their income during the time they have. Between that and the absurd guest fees at the Hyatt and Marriott, Panama is no longer a great destination, IMO.

ThrillSeeker69
03-17-18, 11:38
I know it's subjective, but I believe the caliber of ladies is way down in Panama right now, and with the new visa rules, women seem to be in even more of a rush to get done and move on to the next client, so they can maximize their income during the time they have. Between that and the absurd guest fees at the Hyatt and Marriott, Panama is no longer a great destination, IMO.I'm still new to the nuances of Central America. What are the new visa rules?

Iasian
03-18-18, 01:41
What would qualify as a "great destination"?

JL Miami
03-18-18, 07:10
I'm still new to the nuances of Central America. What are the new visa rules?As of late last fall, Panama now requires a visa for Venezuelans, and it appears Panama is cracking down on Colombians as well, at least those who are working in Panama as opposed to visiting.

JL Miami
03-18-18, 07:16
What would qualify as a "great destination"?This, too, is subjective, but Colombia now seems way better than Panama. Hell, Miami is probably better now, too, when you factor in the cost of flights to PTY vs. MIA. In Miami, you can order reviewed, verified GFE escorts off the internet for as low as $160/ hour without needing to screw around buying drinks, negotiating, and then paying a chica fee.

JL Miami
03-19-18, 00:58
Does anyone know if there's a chica fee at the Crowne Plaza or the Hilton, and, if there is, the amount? The $30 at the Hyatt has made that place unappealing. Thanks.

JL Miami
03-19-18, 05:36
Has anyone been to Elite or LE Palace lately? If so, how was it, strictly in terms of stripper attractiveness (and not takeout, etc.)?

LuvPanamaBabes
03-19-18, 16:06
Does anyone know if there's a chica fee at the Crowne Plaza or the Hilton, and, if there is, the amount? The $30 at the Hyatt has made that place unappealing. Thanks.I have so far written to Hyatt headquarters about this scam!

I spelled out in my letter, that once I pay for the room, I can have as many guests as I want.

I spelled out the following scenarios:

1 I'm doing business in their city and I want to hold a meeting in my room.

2. I want to have a drink with a friend before we go out to dinner.

3. My co-worker is staying at a different hotel, and wants to see my room and how the pool area is.

4. Do they enforce this fee, if my guest is male? If not there being prejudiced against heterosexuals!

In your own letters come up with other scenarios!

I really like the hotel but this is bad business!

Also post negative reviews on TripAdvisor, Google and so on, if enough people complain about.

This scam, they'll lose business and will change there practice!

Frankfurt
03-19-18, 23:32
Amen LuvPanamaBabes. I wrote two letters to Hyatt, first one was for the thing they serve at breakfast and claim it is 'food' -nah far from it unless since last May things have improved but I doubt it. Hyatt responded to it with the generic blah blah 'thanks for your feedback'.

My second letter to them was what turned out to be very embarrassing issue for a real estate agent I was meeting in Hyatt lobby. This is how it went -she came to meet me at Hyatt and plan was to go on a short condo seeing tour in the banking area. We were talking on the left side of the entrance where the seating area is. I offered her coffee and we started to walk towards the cafe which is on the right side of the front desk past the elevators. As we stepped past the front desk and we were not even close to turning to the elevator, the jack as* front desk guy in Spanish asks her for her cedula and addresses me in English that she needs to provide ID. We were both taken aback from such behavior by the front desk. I am sure I was partly to blame from my previous day's extra curricular activity but the presumption on the hotel's part that any girl walking with a male hotel guest is a working girl is outrageous. At Hyatt & Marriott like places, men do conduct business other than why we are here for!

I wrote a lengthy letter to Hyatt including the name of the offending front desk clerk -never heard back from Hyatt.

I strongly believe in BDS (not BDSM guys) movement -since we can't impose sanctions, we should at least stop giving them our business in PTY.


I have so far written to Hyatt headquarters about this scam!

I spelled out in my letter, that once I pay for the room, I can have as many guests as I want.

I spelled out the following scenarios:

1 I'm doing business in their city and I want to hold a meeting in my room.

2. I want to have a drink with a friend before we go out to dinner.

3. My co-worker is staying at a different hotel, and wants to see my room and how the pool area is.

4. Do they enforce this fee, if my guest is male?.

Mfins
03-20-18, 02:37
I have so far written to Hyatt headquarters about this scam!

I spelled out in my letter, that once I pay for the room, I can have as many guests as I want.

I spelled out the following scenarios:

1 I'm doing business in their city and I want to hold a meeting in my room.

2. I want to have a drink with a friend before we go out to dinner.

3. My co-worker is staying at a different hotel, and wants to see my room and how the pool area is.

4. Do they enforce this fee, if my guest is male? If not there being prejudiced against heterosexuals!

In your own letters come up with other scenarios!

I really like the hotel but this is bad business!

Also post negative reviews on TripAdvisor, Google and so on, if enough people complain about.

This scam, they'll lose business and will change there practice!In theory you have a point but, we all know and hotel staff especially knows the difference between a co-worker, friend, business associate and a prostitute.

If it becomes too troublesome they will just stop letting in guests who obviously are there as paid company. To the keen Panamanian eye it is easy to tell who is a working girl and who isn't even if the girl is not dressed as such. Actually its pretty easy for anyone to tell. Older guy, way younger girl and a hot silicone enhanced face / body. Mongers who stay at the Hyatt are such a tiny fraction of their overall business and, that is why the tolerate it while also being able to capitalize on a guest fee. The last thing the Hyatt wants is to be known as a prostitute hotel. They have to much to lose. Don't get me wrong the fee sucks and I hate paying guest fees but, I can also see the business side of it.

Mr Enternational
03-20-18, 02:51
In theory you have a point but, we all know and hotel staff especially knows the difference between a co-worker, friend, business associate and a prostitute.

If it becomes too troublesome they will just stop letting in guests who obviously are there as paid company. To the keen Panamanian eye it is easy to tell who is a working girl and who isn't even if the girl is not dressed as such.Mongers just don't get it. They are in their own little world. Oh you mean this same real estate agent that is here every week to take a different guy to see condos, but always has to go to his room for coffee first? Well last week the story was that she was a fashion designer.

HarvestBoi
03-20-18, 04:33
This, too, is subjective, but Colombia now seems way better than Panama. Hell, Miami is probably better now, too, when you factor in the cost of flights to PTY vs. MIA. In Miami, you can order reviewed, verified GFE escorts off the internet for as low as $160/ hour without needing to screw around buying drinks, negotiating, and then paying a chica fee.What board is the best for escort reviews in Miami?

GauntMan
03-20-18, 06:12
Has anyone been to Elite or LE Palace lately? If so, how was it, strictly in terms of stripper attractiveness (and not takeout, etc.)?Elite and LE Palace are the top of the top of stripclubs in Panama. The owner. A french guy, has a very special taste for the ladies that work there. You will not find any dark skinned girls, and if you do, it will be because she is tanned. Most of them are white girls and ULTRA HOT. Centerfold type.

GauntMan
03-20-18, 06:17
As of late last fall, Panama now requires a visa for Venezuelans, and it appears Panama is cracking down on Colombians as well, at least those who are working in Panama as opposed to visiting.The venezuelan visa was due to the fact that we are invaded by them. The last adminsitration made a shitload of money with the "crisol de razas" which was basically, a fair where the foreigners with money could legalize their status as residents and apply for work permits. More than just the amount of venezuelans fleeing to Panama, we got a whole lot of crappy venezuelans that felt entitled to several things and started to bad mouth the panamanians and the society itself, while they were refugees themselves.

This was also applied to colombians and they all now hate the venezuelans because they all got screwed because of them.

GauntMan
03-20-18, 06:20
I'm still new to the nuances of Central America. What are the new visa rules?Colombians and venezuelans visa time was reduced to 3 months. Venezuelans have to apply to a visa before being able to travel to Panama. Colombias not.

Apart from that, they have to show 500 USD at the customs check point or risk being returned, and they to show a flight return ticket

GauntMan
03-20-18, 06:23
Yes Panamanians can be found there. Usually darker skin. Its fairly easy to tell. I would say its still about 50-30-20. Fifty percent Colombian-Thirty percent Venezuelan-Twenty Percent other including a few Eastern European girls, Peruvian, Dom. Republic, Ticas and Nicas.

I have my doubts on the $20 thing but, if true I would hate to see what a $20 bill gets you.I'm not bragging at all. I've been able to nail a solid 9 for about $30, and the same 9 has gone TLN for $60.

GauntMan
03-20-18, 06:25
Was in PTY last year during Easter week. Habanos was closed on good Friday and the days around it, the talent at Habanos was ho hum but deals could be had for cien.For easter week, it better that you plan way in advance and arrive the weekend before. Get a beach room via airbnb or something and make contacts with the girls and propose a beach trip. During easter week the city dies completely.

JL Miami
03-20-18, 18:54
I have so far written to Hyatt headquarters about this scam!

I spelled out in my letter, that once I pay for the room, I can have as many guests as I want.

I spelled out the following scenarios:

1 I'm doing business in their city and I want to hold a meeting in my room.

2. I want to have a drink with a friend before we go out to dinner.

3. My co-worker is staying at a different hotel, and wants to see my room and how the pool area is.

4. Do they enforce this fee, if my guest is male? If not there being prejudiced against heterosexuals!

In your own letters come up with other scenarios!

I really like the hotel but this is bad business![Deleted by Admin]The Hyatt makes a copy of the ID of all guests who get charged a fee. The Hyatt probably has twenty copies of your "co-worker's" ID, so why make such a foolish argument? Do you want Hyatt Place Panama showing Hyatt corporate the IDs of all your "co-workers"?


Also post negative reviews on TripAdvisor, Google and so on, if enough people complain about.

This scam, they'll lose business and will change there practice!Now this part, I agree with. The real issue with the Hyatt is the lack of transparency. It's B. S. For them to charge a $30 fee without actually notifying people of the charge in advance. Not once have I heard the front desk mention a fee — they just say they need to see the woman's ID and then they make a copy of it. In the span of 6 months or less, the fee has gone from $0 to $15 to $30 with no notice and no mention of it on their site, check-in info, etc. Negative reviews for this practice absolutely should be posted far and wide.


Amen LuvPanamaBabes. I wrote two letters to Hyatt, first one was for the thing they serve at breakfast and claim it is 'food' -nah far from it unless since last May things have improved but I doubt it. The situation at the Hyatt has gone downhill because of the $30 chica fee, but I don't understand the complaints about the breakfast. The Hyatt serves a huge, free breakfast buffet every day, with a nightly rate as low as $65. What are people expecting? Steak and eggs?


I strongly believe in BDS (not BDSM guys) movement -since we can't impose sanctions, we should at least stop giving them our business in PTY.Sounds good in theory, but where do we go? The Marriott is at $30 now as well. Does anyone know about the Crowne Plaza or Hilton? Perhaps the hotels a little farther away don't get as much traffic with the Habanos girls.


Mongers who stay at the Hyatt are such a tiny fraction of their overall business and, that is why the tolerate it while also being able to capitalize on a guest fee. The last thing the Hyatt wants is to be known as a prostitute hotel. They have to much to lose. Don't get me wrong the fee sucks and I hate paying guest fees but, I can also see the business side of it.Disagree, strongly. The Hyatt has gotten a huge amount of business from this and still does. If the Hyatt didn't want to be known for this, they would have had a guest policy from Day 1. Instead, they were happy to make the money in their early years, but now they're either trying to "go straight," so to speak, or they're trying to milk the cow for all its worth. (If the Hyatt was trying to discourage this, they'd mention the $30 fee prominently on their site and at the desk. But they don't do either).

JL Miami
03-20-18, 19:00
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Elite and LE Palace are the top of the top of stripclubs in Panama. The owner. A french guy, has a very special taste for the ladies that work there. You will not find any dark skinned girls, and if you do, it will be because she is tanned. Most of them are white girls and ULTRA HOT. Centerfold type.Thanks. Both are owned by the same guy? How is the experience? I believe LE Palace has been advertising no cover charge, which made me wonder if the place had gone downhill. If I just want to have a couple beers and take in the scenery, will I have a good time, or is it a non-stop sales pitch and $12 beers?


I'm not bragging at all. I've been able to nail a solid 9 for about $30, and the same 9 has gone TLN for $60.Crazy things happen when there's a lot of chemistry and especially when the rent is due, but let's not give people the wrong impression here. Anyone expecting to pull a 9 in Panama for anywhere near $30 is going to be disappointed 99 times out of 100, and now that the Venezuelans are being pushed out, prices are on the rise across the board.

Jethro69
03-21-18, 01:21
Is there a consensus regarding the best chica friendly hotel within a close distance to Habanos now that the Hyatt place has turned on us harmless mongers?

YippieKayay
03-21-18, 03:42
The situation at the Hyatt has gone downhill because of the $30 chica fee, but I don't understand the complaints about the breakfast. The Hyatt serves a huge, free breakfast buffet every day, with a nightly rate as low as $65. What are people expecting? Steak and eggs?
Back in 2015/2016 I was going back with chicas and not getting charged anything (even though technically they had a $15 fee). The Hyatt I think had recently opened. As time goes by they start to enforce a chica fee because things tend to go sideways. Hookers invade hotels in LATAM like roaches. Before you know it bad things happen like furniture being destroyed or fights breaking out. Then management starts to enforce the fee to increase revenue and make up for losses.

I remember when the Veneto first started to introduce a fee. Now that hotel has gone down hill. I've seen this fee business elsewhere in LATAM. First its optionally enforced. Then its strictly enforced. Then the fee is jacked up to a higher price.

Member #4722
03-21-18, 04:56
Glad I paid a visit recently and knocked Panama off my bucket list because I have a feeling the new Hyatt chica fee will hurt mongering there across the board. Less clients means even higher prices and eventually fewer chicas. Prices are already rising and Panama is much more expensive now than other nearby countries.

JL Miami
03-21-18, 05:18
Back in 2015/2016 I was going back with chicas and not getting charged anything (even though technically they had a $15 fee). The Hyatt I think had recently opened. As time goes by they start to enforce a chica fee because things tend to go sideways. Hookers invade hotels in LATAM like roaches. Before you know it bad things happen like furniture being destroyed or fights breaking out. Then management starts to enforce the fee to increase revenue and make up for losses.

I remember when the Veneto first started to introduce a fee. Now that hotel has gone down hill. I've seen this fee business elsewhere in LATAM. First its optionally enforced. Then its strictly enforced. Then the fee is jacked up to a higher price.There's no way the Hyatt chica fee is to cover damages. They have a credit card on file for the room, so they don't need to charge fees to cover losses. The fee is simply a money-grab now that the hotel is established.

Does anyone know who the GM is now? Maybe it's just a coincidence, but it seemed like there was no fee when a man was GM and then the fees started when a woman took over. But I didn't see the woman I thought was GM during my last trip, so I don't know who was responsible for the jump from $15 to $30.


Glad I paid a visit recently and knocked Panama off my bucket list because I have a feeling the new Hyatt chica fee will hurt mongering there across the board. Less clients means even higher prices and eventually fewer chicas. Prices are already rising and Panama is much more expensive now than other nearby countries.The Marriott fee is probably a bigger deal, since the Hyatt didn't even exist until a few years ago. But Panama is going downhill quickly.

My company ships me to Panama, so I don't have a choice, but there's no way I'the book a trip to Panama on my own dime to hook up with escorts. If either go to Miami or head to Colombia or maybe Brazil.

Mfins
03-21-18, 05:55
The Hyatt makes a copy of the ID of all guests who get charged a fee. The Hyatt probably has twenty copies of your "co-worker's" ID, so why make such a foolish argument? Do you want Hyatt Place Panama showing Hyatt corporate the IDs of all your "co-workers"?

Now this part, I agree with. The real issue with the Hyatt is the lack of transparency. It's B. S. For them to charge a $30 fee without actually notifying people of the charge in advance. Not once have I heard the front desk mention a fee they just say they need to see the woman's ID and then they make a copy of it. In the span of 6 months or less, the fee has gone from $0 to $15 to $30 with no notice and no mention of it on their site, check-in info, etc. Negative reviews for this practice absolutely should be posted far and wide.

The situation at the Hyatt has gone downhill because of the $30 chica fee, but I don't understand the complaints about the breakfast. The Hyatt serves a huge, free breakfast buffet every day, with a nightly rate as low as $65. What are people expecting? Steak and eggs?

Sounds good in theory, but where do we go? The Marriott is at $30 now as well. Does anyone know about the Crowne Plaza or Hilton? Perhaps the hotels a little farther away don't get as much traffic with the Habanos girls.

Disagree, strongly. The Hyatt has gotten a huge amount of business from this and still does. If the Hyatt didn't want to be known for this, they would have had a guest policy from Day 1. Instead, they were happy to make the money in their early years, but now they're either trying to "go straight," so to speak, or they're trying to milk the cow for all its worth. (If the Hyatt was trying to discourage this, they'd mention the $30 fee prominently on their site and at the desk. But they don't do either).There are over 165 rooms at the Hyatt. With over 80,000 guests staying there a year. How many of those do you think are staying there because of this board? How many of those guests are bringing back prostitutes? I assure you its a very small number / percentage.

It sometimes takes Hotels a while after opening to implement fees and policies. They learn on the fly. I'm sure there were numerous incidents at the hotel, and / or other guests complaining so they decide, we are going to charge a fee. Maybe its to make extra money (they are running a for profit business) maybe its to discourage prostitutes as guests, maybe its a risk reward. There thinking is, we will deal with this from time to time and the risk and hassle that goes along with it but, there is going to be a surcharge for doing it. Im not even going into the fact the Panamanian Staff does not like dealing with drunks coming back in the middle of the night with pre-pagos from Colombia. I don't know the exact reason. What I do know is your business, my business and every other Mongers business they can live without and if the police get called to the hotel too frequently, or a room is destroyed, or there is puke to clean up etc they will just stop allowing "paid guests" I have seen it happen in many hotels in many different parts of the world.

Mfins
03-21-18, 06:23
Glad I paid a visit recently and knocked Panama off my bucket list because I have a feeling the new Hyatt chica fee will hurt mongering there across the board. Less clients means even higher prices and eventually fewer chicas. Prices are already rising and Panama is much more expensive now than other nearby countries.It won't make a dent. There are so many other hotels to choose from and quite honestly people will just get used to paying the $30 and budget for it. These fees have been popping up for as long as I can remember in Panama and, it has not effected business in general.

Other things that pop up do effect business however. Including immigration sweeps at the clubs rounding up the girls for deportation. Laws limiting alcohol sales and when a club has to close, taxes on cashing in chips at the casino (although this is one is more of a personal observation).

I will concede however the Hyatt was new, close, and reasonably priced.

Lee
03-21-18, 13:46
Why is there a guest fee at the Hyatt?

If you put this question to the staff of the hotel the answer you get is that the new manager is a woman. When the old one moved on to Peru (a man) and in came the new female manager up came guest fees. $15.00 did not chase you a way so it went to 30 dollars.

After your visit if you receive a survey from Hyatt corporation about your stay in Panama comment that the only negative thing you found was the $30.00 fee to have a friend visit you in your room.

Lee.

JL Miami
03-21-18, 17:13
There are over 165 rooms at the Hyatt. With over 80,000 guests staying there a year. How many of those do you think are staying there because of this board? How many of those guests are bringing back prostitutes? I assure you its a very small number / percentage.

It sometimes takes Hotels a while after opening to implement fees and policies. They learn on the fly. I'm sure there were numerous incidents at the hotel, and / or other guests complaining so they decide, we are going to charge a fee. Maybe its to make extra money (they are running a for profit business) maybe its to discourage prostitutes as guests, maybe its a risk reward..You can't be serious. You're assuming the Hyatt is sold out every day of the year? I doubt it's sold out more than one or two days per month. If the Hyatt was doing that well, the rate wouldn't be half of what, E. G, the Courtyard charges.

There's also no way it took the Hyatt over three years to figure out Habanos was two blocks away. My last time at the Hyatt, if I sat in the lobby for an hour at night, I'd count at least ten escorts coming or going. That's a huge amount of business for the Hyatt.

If the Hyatt was truly trying to discourage this activity, it would advertise the fee so that such men would stay elsewhere. But that's not what's happening. The Hyatt doesn't even call it a guest fee on the folio. It calls it an "upgrade fee," whatever that's supposed to mean.


It won't make a dent. There are so many other hotels to choose from and quite honestly people will just get used to paying the $30 and budget for it. These fees have been popping up for as long as I can remember in Panama and, it has not effected business in general.

Other things that pop up do effect business however. Including immigration sweeps at the clubs rounding up the girls for deportation. Laws limiting alcohol sales and when a club has to close, taxes on cashing in chips at the casino (although this is one is more of a personal observation).

I will concede however the Hyatt was new, close, and reasonably priced.This is way too optimistic. There was never a time in Panama where there were zero hotels near Habanos known to be chica-friendly with no fee. Where are all these other options? If they exist, no one has mentioned them.

Mfins
03-22-18, 01:50
You can't be serious. You're assuming the Hyatt is sold out every day of the year? I doubt it's sold out more than one or two days per month. If the Hyatt was doing that well, the rate wouldn't be half of what, E. G, the Courtyard charges.

There's also no way it took the Hyatt over three years to figure out Habanos was two blocks away. My last time at the Hyatt, if I sat in the lobby for an hour at night, I'd count at least ten escorts coming or going. That's a huge amount of business for the Hyatt.

If the Hyatt was truly trying to discourage this activity, it would advertise the fee so that such men would stay elsewhere. But that's not what's happening. The Hyatt doesn't even call it a guest fee on the folio. It calls it an "upgrade fee," whatever that's supposed to mean.

This is way too optimistic. There was never a time in Panama where there were zero hotels near Habanos known to be chica-friendly with no fee. Where are all these other options? If they exist, no one has mentioned them.They exist and if you wish you can look back at all the posts going back years to find them. Many of them are my posts. Maybe not walking distance but within ear shot.

I'm not going to debate this issue. However, I will make a few points of fact. Each room does not have one person in it most of the time. Many times its between 2-4 so no I am not saying its 100% occupied every day of the year but, given the average occupancy rate in Panama at approx 80% and given that most rooms have more than just one guest staying in it I am giving you an estimated number of guests per year who stay at the Hyatt. The couple thousand mongers (if even that many) staying there each year is not even a blip on the radar. Regardless of your opinion or mine if you don't buy my explanation that is fine. However, the fact is they charge it because they can and, they will continue to charge it and people will continue to pay it. (aside from a few). I can also assure you they will tolerate hookers and mongers staying at their hotel within reason but, they in no way want to be known as a Hooker hotel. In fact I bet Hyatt corporate would shut the franchisee down and de-brand the hotel if it got out of hand. That was part of the reason the Veneto was sold / filed bankruptcy / taken over. Wyndham forced them to de-brand the hotel.

Mfins
03-22-18, 02:02
If the Hyatt was truly trying to discourage this activity, it would advertise the fee so that such men would stay elsewhere. But that's not what's happening. The Hyatt doesn't even call it a guest fee on the folio. It calls it an "upgrade fee," whatever that's supposed to mean.I will agree with you on this point. The hotels in Panama who charge a "guest fee" they are very sneaky about it. Sometimes it just shows up on your bill at the end of the trip. Although since these are not love hotels, I am not sure how they would advertise it or inform people of the potential extra charge at check in. They can't call it a guest fee because most patrons of the hotel have legitimate guests up to the room and they would not stand for being charged a fee for this. They can not call it a "hooker fee" at check in or on your reservation for obvious reasons. So I am not really sure how they are supposed to let people know in advance as they do not know who checking in is there to bang prostitutes and who is there on vacation / business.