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06-22-05, 22:26
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TweedleD
06-23-05, 01:31
La gran Via, Presidente ,Morazan, Sportsman Lodge, Europa, Hotel Asia, Apartmentos Sudemar, all chica friendly,some have joiner fee, some don't.

Tasty1
06-24-05, 02:08
Presidante for classy but active folks, Sportmen's for classy but shy people. Everything else is "so be it."

Jaimito Cartero
06-24-05, 04:49
La gran Via, Presidente ,Morazan, Sportsman Lodge, Europa, Hotel Asia, Apartmentos Sudemar, all chica friendly,some have joiner fee, some don't.

Yours is a mostly useless post. I do not consider a hotel that charges a joiner fee Chica friendly. If you can't detail specifics, then you're just wasting bandwith.

Rabo Verde
06-24-05, 21:15
NOTE THAT ALL OF THE FOLLOWING ARE WITHIN 6 BLOCKS OF EACH OTHER, IN THE "GRINGO GULCH" AREA, WHICH IS WHERE YOU WANT TO STAY IN SAN JOSE, SO DON'T WORRY MUCH ABOUT LOCATION. FOR THOSE WHO HAVE NOT BEEN TO CENTRAL AMERICA B4, NOTE THAT NONE OF THESE HOTELS IS 100% UP TO AMERICAN STANDARDS OF SERVICE AND CLEANLINESS, EXCEPT THE HOLIDAY INN.

Sportsmens' lodge is absolutely the BEST, especially for newby's, but is often full. Make reservations in advance. They bought the place next door and are adding 20+ rooms. One of the best hobby hotels in the WORLD, IMHO. Run by a Gringo. $55-75. Sports bar, big screen, small restaurant, free internet, nice location on a quiet side street next to a park, but 2 blocks to action central. SUPER staff, always someone around to give you directions or advice or to translate. No guest fee. Only problem, fans instead of A/C and a little noisy but really LOTS of fun. If this is your first trip to San Jose, and/or you don't speak Spanish, DEFINITELY stay here, your trip will be 200% better!

www.sportsmenscr.com

Presidente is on the main shopping street in Gringo Gulch, with a good restaurant with view of the goings-on. Used to be good, now it's a dump. Good A/C, free Internet, breakfast buffet. No guest fee, one guest at a time, $65-$75 a night more or less. ASK FOR CORPORATE DISCOUNT!

http://www.hotel-presidente.com/rooms.html

La Gran Via, a block down the main shopping street from the Presidente, is $45 a night, no guest fee, run down but kind of charming, with laid-back staff, OK breakfast and is in a great location but no a/c and NOISY. Kind of like a hotel out of a Graham Greene novel.

http://www.hgranvia.com/ing/index.htm

Hotel Del Rey is a ratfuck, for drunk Gringos who don't know any better, but houses the world-famous Blue Marlin Bar.

http://hoteldelrey.com/

Balmoral, directly across from the Presidente, is nice, around $60, but they are targeting business guests and charge I think $15 guest fee, but if you talk to the manager BEFORE checking in she will generally waive it if you promise to be discreet and one guest at a time. Free Internet, good breakfast.

The Holiday Inn has an $85 a night special price, but you have to ASK for it, or they charge $120. They discourage guests, but you can often just walk thru with a friend. They have a nice indoor pool and breakfast buffet, great location.

NastyBoy
06-24-05, 23:50
La gran Via, Presidente ,Morazan, Sportsman Lodge, Europa, Hotel Asia, Apartmentos Sudemar, all chica friendly,some have joiner fee, some don't.

Thanks for the post tweedleD. You saved me 60 pages of research.

H Bush
06-25-05, 03:55
I agree with chupo, Sportsmens Lodge is the place to stay in San Jose. I spent eight days there this month. It is 100% girl friendly, in fact, there are numerous working girls that stroll in throughout the day and you are not limited as to how many "guests" you care to entertain in your room. The atmosphere is very laid back and you will get to know everyone staying there.

Highly recommended for first timers or guys going solo. Walking distance to the Del Ray and massage parlors. The staff is top notch and will arrange any day trips outside the city for you. I'm already planning a return in September.

As for the A/C, It's not an issue. San Jose is at a high elevation and it actually got chilly at night.

ApostropheMan
06-25-05, 09:36
Yours is a mostly useless post. I do not consider a hotel that charges a joiner fee Chica friendly. If you can't detail specifics, then you're just wasting bandwith.Well then lead by example master traveller. Atleast his post had some information in it. The Sportsmens' Lodge and the Presidente are both great however th nod goes to the Sportsmans as the Presidente is past it's prime, as reported by Chuponalgas and others.

Jaimito Cartero
06-25-05, 12:18
Well then lead by example master traveller.

Since I own a house in Costa Rica, it's rather difficult for me to accurately recommend a hotel I have never stayed at. And if you'd bother to peruse my reports in the CR and other sections, you will find plenty of factual details, photos and other meaningless stuff thrown in as well.

Seeing as you only have 2 or 3 posts a year, most only one or two lines, I don't think you're quite qualified to start rock throwing.

NastyBoy
06-25-05, 14:55
What's with all the metal/aluminum roofs down there? They look so bizarre. It really does give the place a third world look. Strange. I heard they're really noisy when it rains. Thank goodness my hotel doesn't have one of those. I need my sleep. But all those homes, except of course where the Germans and Americans live, (they have tile roofs), they look really shanty.

NastyBoy
06-25-05, 14:59
That guy's a dick. All he ever does is criticize. He's even got the nerve to correct the spelling of the owner/operator of this board who gives him the opportunity to post to the forum. Sheesh! Some people.

Jaimito Cartero
06-25-05, 14:59
My house has a combination of metal and some sort of clear vinyl sheeting for the patio. It's basically a cost savings thing. There is a big difference in price once you go up to plastic or actual clay (Mexican style, I'd say) roof tiles.

I painted mine so they look fairly nice, but it's all a personal preference. I know when I first came all the bars on everything was weird. Heck when I bought it, I even put up some cyclone wire on the top of my walls too.

ApostropheMan
06-25-05, 22:07
Since I own a house in Costa Rica, it's rather difficult for me to accurately recommend a hotel I have never stayed at. And if you'd bother to peruse my reports in the CR and other sections, you will find plenty of factual details, photos and other meaningless stuff thrown in as well.

Seeing as you only have 2 or 3 posts a year, most only one or two lines, I don't think you're quite qualified to start rock throwing.What can I say? Atleast my posts are based on fact and personal experience. Your comment was just to bash someone when you had know firsthand knowledge yourself as you made abundantly clear in this post. I post here only occasionally as there are other boards, where I have thousands of posts, that I prefer apparantly with good reason. What you, or I, have posted in the past and how frequently has little to do with the value of the posts. Just like your living there has little value in certain areas like your knowledge of hotels. Don't let your ignorance stop you from posting.

ApostropheMan
06-25-05, 22:11
That guy's a dick. All he ever does is criticize. He's even got the nerve to correct the spelling of the owner/operator of this board who gives him the opportunity to post to the forum. Sheesh! Some people.I'm not sure where you are getting your information. When and where was I correcting spelling here? I quess if you consider posting accurate and potentially useful information critisism then I'm guilty as charged. Sorry if I interrupted the little boys club. By all means return to your very interesting discusion of roofing materials.

Chess Cat
06-26-05, 17:19
The Hotel Inca Real, 1 block from the Clarion (Amon Plaza) in Barrio Amon may be considered. The price is about $50, they charge a $10 chica fee. Avoid the rooms in the basement floor, ie, next to the breakfast room, just refuse to stay there if that's all they have. Even the rooms on the entry level or other rooms, you might want to check out your room and make sure it's the best location for you. The staff is friendly, there is computer access, hot water and clean rooms for a reasonable price. The Barrio Amon is a nice area, there is a zoo and some restaurants, nice to walk around, yet close enough to the gulch. An alternative that should be considered.

Dinoman
07-06-05, 20:44
The Hotel La Gran Via in my opinion is the best buy in San Jose. A great location, $40-45 a night tax included no guest fees. The rooms are big and the front rooms have balconies.
It can get noisy in the front but the back rooms are quiet and big. The rooms could be updated but are very clean. You can make weekly or monthly deals and carry over unused days. example make a two week deal stay for one week leave for the beach for two days come back to San Jose and you still have a week. And if you leave and have 3 days left they will credit you 3 days for the next time you are in San Jose. http://www.hgranvia.com/ing/index.htm
phone 011-506-222-7313

QuackUp
07-07-05, 22:47
I would like to add my recommendation for the Sportmen's Lodge Hotel. It is located close enough to the gulch to walk and even though it is not recommended to walk at night, I did. As far as service goes, top notch. Everybody from the top down wanted to ensure everything was going okay. If there were any problems, they made sure it was taken care of immediately. All the workers I spoke to were happy to work there. That's a testamony to the owner Bill and it shows. Not to mention all of his female staff were hot. I was in the junior suite which is a good size room and bed. Cable tv and if you need a computer to work on, I believe there were four that you could use day or night.

As noted before, later in the afternoon and at night, there are usually girls in the bar area. Like everything else, it's all about the timing. Everytime I went to the bar, the best looking girls were already hooked up. The girl policy for this place is very good and no extra fee to bring them back.

The front desk will arrange any tours you need, taxis and just about anything else you may need. Plus they make you feel like you are at home and not a hotel. Like someone wrote before, this is a place where everyone knows your name.

Q

Prolijo
07-07-05, 23:43
Boys, Boys, Boys! Can't we all just get along.
La gran Via, Presidente ,Morazan, Sportsman Lodge, Europa, Hotel Asia, Apartmentos Sudemar, all chica friendly,some have joiner fee, some don't.

Yours is a mostly useless post. I do not consider a hotel that charges a joiner fee Chica friendly. If you can't detail specifics, then you're just wasting bandwith.tweedleD's post may have been short on details but it was not completely devoid of info and, at only 2 lines, could hardly be classified as a waste of bandwidth. In fact, JC's post didn't really add much either besides negativity and criticism. And, while a joiner fee is certainly a strike against any aspiring chica-friendly hotel, one should remember that the annointed king of such hotels (at least by most newbies and a few vets) is the Del Rey which just so happens to charge a prety hefty joiner fee itself.

Thanks for the post tweedleD. You saved me 60 pages of research. I'm guessing sarcasm. Waste of bandwidth? Definitely.

Well then lead by example master traveller. At least his post had some information in it. The Sportsmens' Lodge and the Presidente are both great however the nod goes to the Sportsmans as the Presidente is past it's prime, as reported by Chuponalgas and others. A bit snide, perhaps, but an understandable reaction given the above two comments and his other arguments were completely valid.
Since I own a house in Costa Rica, it's rather difficult for me to accurately recommend a hotel I have never stayed at. And if you'd bother to peruse my reports in the CR and other sections, you will find plenty of factual details, photos and other meaningless stuff thrown in as well.

Seeing as you only have 2 or 3 posts a year, most only one or two lines, I don't think you're quite qualified to start rock throwing.First part a perfectly reasonable explanation. Second part, basically irrelevant. I don't know how qualified he might be to add informative posts, but any of us here are qualified to evaluate the difference between a post that attempts to offer information and one that simply criticises another member making such a post, which is what JS did.

That guy's a dick. All he ever does is criticize. He's even got the nerve to correct the spelling of the owner/operator of this board who gives him the opportunity to post to the forum. Sheesh! Some people.Now it gets really "nasty" with name-calling. I reviewed AMan's post and found nothing that could be constured as criticism up to the moment he came to tweedleD's defense and no spelling corrections of anyone let alone any post at all addressed to Jackson. So I'm not sure where NastyBoy was getting those delusions. If anybody is guilty of criticism it is NastyBoy and JC (who recently did the same thing in the Restaurant thread by criticising someone without offering any useful info of their own)

All this seems pretty obvious to me and perhaps to many others reading it. A-Man was quite understandably put-out by JC's and NastyBoy's posts to him and responded accordingly. I understand his reaction but it sort of brought him down into the verbal barb throwing with the others rather than trusting others to see it all for what it was.

JC, I really respect your many contributions to this forum and all your knowledge and experience, but at least in these couple of cases I think you were wrong

Senior Members, we all post here in our own ways. As long as someone is not actually stealing or plagiarizing or flaming or even just mildy attacking another (assuming that attack is not just a response to an attack on himself), we should be prepared to cut them some slack. You may not like their style or content and can offer contrary opinions or CONSTRUCTIVE criticism, but saying their posts are a "Waste of bandwidth" or calling them a "Dick" has no place here at WSG.

Jaimito Cartero
07-08-05, 01:25
JC, I really respect your many contributions to this forum and all your knowledge and experience, but at least in these couple of cases I think you were wrong.


Perhaps you'd like to point out the lodging you recommended in your post. I know that there won't be one discussed in mine. :)

The thing I am trying to point out, is that the accepted definition of "chica friendly" is no joiner fee. I am also trying to firmly (believe me, my posts were not unfriendly) start off these new sections in the right direction. I've never stayed at the Del Rey, and don't generally recommend it to anyone who is interested in mongering. Perhaps you can tell me what value a monger gets out of being charged $10-$12 per chica they bring up. Please enlighten me.

So many members are trying to 'bump' their postings up by putting up small one line responses, and basically very unhelpful postings. "Yeah, that chica is very nice". While that's a compliment, it's a post that should be send via a PM.

I read about 10-15 different countries forums every day. By going through 2-5 messages each day in each forum that are non-informational I waste a lot of time. For guys who only read one forum a day, it probably doesn't matter to them.

TweedleD has posted a number of photos that weren't his in the CR forum, so you will find a bit of my attitude towards him reflected in the post.

I am far from perfect, but I will point to Chuponalgas post as one that is really great. He gives you links, prices and much more info. Since I live for a month or two a year in Costa Rica I don't look for the lodging info that others do, but do want to make sure these new sections start off on the right foot. This post and the sniping going on here is not good.

It is strange that many of the people who snipe and complain are people that don't post good field reports. Weird how that works out, eh?

Nick
07-08-05, 02:16
When i was going to Costa Rica,i always stayed at the Del Rey. I enjoyed the convience of waking up at 3am and walking down to the bar and draging a young chica back to my room. I have been going to Colombia the last three years, so i dont know the quality of the hotel now. The hotel lobby was full of desirable latinas from all over Latin America.I still hear from some of the ladies.Several have married Americans and have had children and are living the American dream.

Prolijo
07-08-05, 04:58
Jaimito Cartero,
I really don't want to get into a sniping war with you either. Like I said in my post, I generally respect your contributions to this board and recognize that the vast majority of your posts are highly positive. I even understand and agree with your general hostility towards tweedleD since I'm also familiar with the issue of his bogus photos and usually vague and worthless posts.

But A-Man was right when he said there was nothing really all THAT wrong with that PARTICULAR post and that yours itself offered little in return. Obviously, he wasn't familiar with tweedleD's history. Perhaps if you had just explained THAT to whom rather than turning on him too, we could have avoided the whole sorry series of posts that were going on before I entered the fray. They also had little to do with hotels and everything to do with sniping at one another and that was what I was responding too. You have your gripes and I have mine.

As for my "enlightening you" and pointing out what "lodging I was recommending" in my post, that sounds like just more sniping on your part. I'm trying to be respectful and explaining my views. It sounds to me like you just want to get into another pissing match. Not EVERY post has to strictly mention a hotel as long as it addresses issues brought up by others. One thing a post shouldn't do is make essentially unexplained sniping attacks on what at least appear to be basically innocuous posts by others. You say you don't like 2 line posts that don't offer info but only criticism and yet you've made a few of those yourself.

WHATEVER! You obviously missed MY point. And my post only served to revive the whole sorry exchange. In that sense I was wrong too. Let's end such posting NOW!

On a more pleasant note related to the REAL topic at hand - HOTELS, I happen to agree with you. I wouldn't recommend the HDR for most mongers either and I certainly can't enlighten you why so MANY guys are willing to pay their ridiculous chica fees, but they do, so it at least deserves some mention on this board. Maybe they feel the other benefits offset that particular disadvantage. You say the accepted definition of chica friendly is no joiner fee. Accepted by who? That is certainly an important factor but obviously not a deal breaker for those guys. Besdies, to say it is not chica friendly when there's literally a parade of chicas walking up and down the stairs is sort of ridiculous. Perhaps saying it is not monger friendly would be a more apt description, though, again, it seems many guys would disagree. Incidentally, the Morazon also has a small joiner fee (a much more reasonable $3), however given the fact that most mongers rarely take back more than 1-2 chicas per day it still comes out cheaper than many other hotels that do not charge chica fees. There are also many other hotels that do not charge any fee as long as you've booked a double room but will only let you bring back one girl per day and often give you shit about doing that. Would you call that chica friendly?

You may have slightly different views on this. Feel free to explain your side. I'll respect that, though I may disagree. However, whatever the case, there's certainly no need for either of us to get hostile about any of it.

Bandy
07-08-05, 19:14
.... You say the accepted definition of chica friendly is no joiner fee. Accepted by who? That is certainly an important factor but obviously not a deal breaker for those guys. Besdies, to say it is not chica friendly when there's literally a parade of chicas walking up and down the stairs is sort of ridiculous. ......There are also many other hotels that do not charge any fee as long as you've booked a double room but will only let you bring back one girl per day and often give you shit about doing that. Would you call that chica friendly?.....
Right on! Could'nt agree with you more. This convoluted definition of "girl un-friendly hotels" I have not seen anywhere. A hotel can only be girl-friendly or un-friendly. Girl un-friendly hotels will not allow chicas to join you...period! Whether a girl-friendly hotel charges a "joiner fee" or not , is a totally different issue. And as you said that to call DEL REY, the most famous Brothel/Hotel in Central America, girl-unfriendly is really mind boggling. I will disagree with you on one point though. For newbies, whose main interest is mongering, I would only recommend this hotel as a first option for one stop shopping(see my point below).

When i was going to Costa Rica,i always stayed at the Del Rey. I enjoyed the convience of waking up at 3am and walking down to the bar and draging a young chica back to my room.....
Another excellent point. This is the main reason I always stayed in this hotel. I can go down to the main lobby at any hour of the night without risking any encounter with muggers or TVs (outside of the hotel) and take part in mongering or gambling or simply having a beer in the bar and talking to chicas. It has its own perks also. After the first trip, the hotel manager Miguel became my friend. He introduced many of the girls to me and automatically I got special treatments from them. I never had to pay any entrance fee to Key Largo. Also, I always got a discounted price from the chicas since they don't have to leave the premises for a longer travel time. But I will agree on one thing that as a hotel it is nothing to write home about. It is at best a two star motel in the US. It is primarily geared to mongering and gambling.

Bandy

Nick
07-09-05, 22:11
I agree with Bandy about Staying at the Hotel del Rey if you have not been to Costa Rica. For the 10 dollar room upgrade, it is worth it for the safety and convience. I may be lazy but the Del Rey had everything i needed. A small caffe bar,good cigars, a tour desk and cheap slot machines and many beautifull chicas. The rooms are not the quality Hilton or Marriot but for my purposes they were ok.

Nick
07-09-05, 22:14
P.S. the bar is open 24-7.

Volpone
07-24-05, 10:30
What about renting a furnishea apartment for 2-3 weeks?

Does anybody have a phone number or an adress?

Prolijo
07-25-05, 04:39
For extended stay rates in the Gulch area itself, your best bet may be to see if any of the hotels have weekly rates. I know that the Gran Via (www.hgranvia.com 506-222-7737 rates???) and Castillo (www.hotelcastillo.biz tel#506-221-5141 weekly rates are 20% off their regular daily rates) both do. I think the Hotel Europa does too. The Rincon de San Jose (www.hotelrincondesanjose.com 506-221-9702 $290/wk+tax) also has an apartment that has gotten some good reviews (the hotel itself is not purported to be particularly chica friendly, but the apartment has its own entrance.

Apartamentos Sudamer on the corner of Calle 7 and Avenida 14 (no website or known tel#) and Scotland Apartments on Calle 27 and Avenida 1 (www.hotels.co.cr/scotland.html 506-223-0833 $250-350/wk) are both pretty close to downtown.

If cost is a factor, you might get better rates if you're willing to go a little further from downtown. The Linda Vista Apartments (http://vistalinda.webcindario.com/frame.htm Tel#506-399-8904 $125-145/wk $375-425/mo.) is one that is very popular with "mongers". It is a little far from downtown, but easy to get to. They basically have small one bedroom apts. with a full kitchen/living area. They are very chica friendly catering almost exclusively to fellow "mongers" who often hang together in the common area for coffee, stories, etc. At the extreme end of Calle Blanco about 1 mile north of downtown. Taxi ride to Gulch for 550 or bus leaving every 10 minutes on the corner for 90 colones.

Some other apartments that have been listed on various forums are Apartotel La Sabana (www.apartotel-lasabana.com) and Aparthotel el Sesteo (www.sesteo.com). Both are about a 600c cab ride from the Gulch in the Sabana Park area. They're supposed to be very nice but they're not cheap either.

Veterano
07-25-05, 05:34
I stayed last week for a few days first at the Sportsman's Lodge, and then for a few days at the Presidente

I had a great room at the SL but it was very noisy, particularly in the AM when the reception gals started talking on the phones. The SL is also out of the way and a little hard for the taxis to find. Qualities include a friendly staff and a pretty good breakfast (which is not included)

Presidente was also noisy (from construction), but very convenient, plus I had a great jacuzzi bath. I also liked the proximity to the News Cafe.

Veterano

Prolijo
07-25-05, 19:54
If you're a light sleeper, I suggest you either bring earplugs or pick a hotel outside of downtown altogether. One thing that can make a big difference is whether the rooms, halls and other public areas are tiled or carpeted. Tiled hotels are easier to clean and thus don't get as grungy as places that have old carpeting, but they also are a lot noisier. Some are worse than others. The Del Rey a perennial favorite, particularly amongst newbies but also amongst a few vets, as I recall has carpeting but is still one of the noisier places to stay as it has an opening above the casino that rises up through all the floors, channeling light down but also all the casino noise upwards. The Presidente has tiled floors which reflect all the noises of banging headbords, slicking shoeheels etc., but some of the worst noise comes from the street vendors on the pedestrian mall out front. So you might find it slightly quieter in one of the back rooms.

The Sportsmens Lodge has been extremely positively reviewed by many vets. Perhaps part of Veterano's problem was in being so close to the reception desk? I wouldn't necessarily recommend its location for newbies who don't know their way around downtown, but if you do know your way around it really isn't any farther from ground zero than many other popular downtown hotels such as the Amon Plaza, Gran Via or Hotel Europa. Its extremely chica friendly (e.g. unlike the Pres. it allows more than 1 chica and unlike the HDR has no chica fee). Its bar is becoming increasingly popular for both gringos and chicas alike, though admittedly it is WAY more laid back than the BM (that can be both good and bad). Its also only about 2 blocks away from New Fantasy and a short walk to some of the better restaurants in SJ including Cafe Mundo, Bakea, Atomic Diner, La Palma and JR's Ribs.

Paxsie
08-10-05, 04:56
I am traveling with two other guys. And I'd rather not having to share a bed with anyone. Can anyone tell me a hotel that i can request a 3rd person roller bed? By the way, I will only stay for 3 nights.

Dinoman
08-10-05, 23:15
Paxsie

Ask for Alvaro
phone # 011-506-222-7737
Web http://www.hgranvia.com/
I know they have rooms with 3 Queen beds.
Price about $60-$75 for the room $ 25 @ each.
You can e-mail Alvaro from his web site he is the owner.
I think its a great location
Dinoman

Prolijo
08-11-05, 00:50
There you go again with your Gran Via promoting, Dinoman.:)

Paxsie, I'm sure most hotels could handle such a request, but this is hardly the type of board to find out which. A better question would be why you'd even think about sharing a room let alone a bed, if you plan on bringing chicas back to your room. Its well worth the added cost to get your own room even if that means staying at a cheaper hotel (unless you're into group sex). But if cost is such a big factor there are definitely other hotels that are even cheaper than La Gran Via where you can split a room or rooms 3 ways for an even lower per person cost.

Dinoman
08-12-05, 17:21
There YOU go again. No one on this website can have an opinion but you.
This room is to give opinions on "places to stay" I happen to know that La Gran Via has rooms for three here is a Quote from there website. Room Rates
$50.00* Single room
$65.00* Double room
$75.00* Triple room

No chica fee.

Do you know of a better place in as good of location and with these rates? This is not a roll in bed but a full queen bed. I am only trying to help members.
Grow up.
Dinoman

KYJ
08-12-05, 17:21
One place to avoid is the new Choice Hotel connected to the Colonial Casino.
They have a $30 fee for a chica visiting your room. Ouch.

Makes the Hotel Del Rey look like a bargain.

For first time visitors I usually recommend the Hotel Del Rey because it is safe and you don't have to find your way around. A good place to meet other guys and get the lay of the land, so to speak. And you can get room service or get a drink at the bar, or find a chica, 24 hours a day, 7 days of the week.

Another place often overlooked is the Hotel Europa. It is however, about six blocks from most action, and these are streets I would not walk alone at night.
You can have multiple guests without any problems, and they will waive the guest fees if you talk to them in advance and ask.

Prolijo
08-12-05, 20:59
Dinoman,
Who is the weird one? There I go again? I've raised this issue in just a couple of my posts. You've been made statements promoting the Gran Via in at least 25 of your 40 posts, usually with wild hyperbole, phone number, web address and/or full pricing. To me that is a weird preoccupation.

And you think I can't tolerate different opinions and am the one that needs to grow up? You're VERY confused. Just where have I ever said anywhere that anyone else can't have an opinion? You have an opinion. I have an opinion. It just so happens that sometimes they're different. That's life. Get over it. That doesn't mean anyone should be prevented from presenting their alternate viewpoint. Look over the facts. Show me where I've ever attacked anyone for simply disagreeing with me. I HAVE however responded forcefully whenever you responded negatively to my own right to a different view. YOU are the only one that has gotten extemely hostile whenever I've differed with one of your posts or questioned your facts. Your aggresive-defensive reaction suggests to me that my pointing out the statistics behind your posts have struck a nerve of embarassment with you. Those are the facts so don't go around making up baseless charges about me. It can easily be turned around.

My problem with you has absolutely nothing to do with your opinion on the Gran Via or anything else per se. I'm not even saying the Gran Via is a bad place. You've stated your opinions about the place and the reason for them. Fine. Now let it go and move on to something else. It doesn't bear repeating in practically every post. My issue with you is not your opinion. It is your redundancy.

It seems very strange to me that you continually repost a hype for that particular hotel every time the subject of hotel recommendations comes up. Well over half of your posts heavily promote this hotel, sometimes by trashing other hotels. You've posted the web address at least half a dozen times. The personal phone number you give out, also at least half a dozen times, is actually the front desk of the Gran Via. I can find at least 3 occassions where you've publicly advised members who may not be fully aware of the nature of your association with this hotel to use your name when making reservations. These are all facts, not opinions. And I also strongly suspect that there is a lot more backchannel promotion going on through your PM's.

This is all somewhat reminiscent of another infamous poster on another board who had a strange fixation with the Morazon. That guy irritated so many other members with his posts that he was eventually banned from at least 2 different boards, drove one of them completely into the ground and is now afraid to even show his face in San Jose.

Prolijo
08-12-05, 21:50
Do you know of a better place in as good of location and with these rates?To be honest, I don't normally go shopping for triple occupancy rooms. Like I suggested earlier, there are definitely hotels in that area where your per person cost is even lower than $25/nt. None that I would want to stay in, but then I wouldn't want to share a room either. I also allowed for a difference of opinion when I said some people like group sex. Personally (IMHO, YMMV, yada yada yada), if I were going to SJ with some buddies with the focus being on possibly bringing chicas back to my room, it would be well worth it to me to either trade down to a hotel that is not quite as nice or pay a small premium for my own room and not have to watch my buddy scratch his ass while I'm trying to get intimate with my chica. And that would be true even if none of us got a cot. You and others may feel differently and thats your right but I suspect most guys around here would feel the same way. I do know of perfectly fine hotels in decent locations with single room rates that are closer to the $25 per person rate you quoted for a triple room at La Gran Via than they are to your $50 single room rate there. A better question would be why you felt it was necessary to repeat the exact same rates for your pet hotel that you had just made a few hours earlier in your previous post, not even 2 inches down the web page.

Dinoman
08-12-05, 23:10
I do not have to quote from your past post if anyone is interested in your post they can read what your all about. I have been a member for some 4-5 years and never read any post with as much pompous as you write with.
As far as your website it stinks and I would not recommend any member to surf there.
Maybe that is why your all hot.
Get a life.
Dinoman
PS The Hotel La Gran Via ROCKS

Prolijo
08-13-05, 01:08
Sticks and stones, Dinoman, sticks and stones. Real mature. Actually, regarding that website I PM'd you about, I specifically asked you not to share info on it, so please, by all means, don't recommend it to others. Though I never claimed to be a professional webdesigner, my website has actually gotten widely positive reviews by many veteran CR travelers that have seen it. The only reason I privately offered you access to it (in a PM) was as a goodwill gesture to try to help put our disagreements behind us. Obviously, it doesn't pay to try to be nice to some people. All I can say is if you really think it stinks so badly, do me a favor and simply don't go there. However, I suspect your review is colored more by your hostility and vindictiveness than by anything else.

Jaimito Cartero
08-13-05, 02:31
I don't know what all the pissing and moaning in this forum is. Someone asked for a triple room, and someone else offered concise information.

If someone has a great relationship with a hotel, then I think it's natural that they recommend them. If you think something is wrong with a report, either PM the person, or report the post to Jackson. Otherwise it just brings this forum down to the 3rd grade level.

Prolijo
08-13-05, 03:57
I don't know what all the pissing and moaning in this forum is. Someone asked for a triple room, and someone else offered concise information.

If someone has a great relationship with a hotel, then I think it's natural that they recommend them. If you think something is wrong with a report, either PM the person, or report the post to Jackson. Otherwise it just brings this forum down to the 3rd grade level. Your absolutely right. Dino offered concise information and I offered an equally concise alternative suggestion. From there it somehow got out of hand.

I also agree that if someone has a great relationship with a hotel its natural that they recommend it. But I think its a bit unnatural for someone without any obvious financial interest in a business to go to such extreme lengths promoting it. Dino posts on this hotel almost to the exclusion of anything else and doesn't miss an opportunity to repeat his earlier information. I'm surprised he doesn't change his handle to Gran Via.

What is the relevance of any of this in the "places to stay" forum? If a person stays at a hotel 5 months out of the year and actively solicits business for that hotel, it is not unreasonable to think he might be getting extra special service from that hotel or even additional discounts that the rest of us might not otherwise get. Naturally any such special attention is likely to cloud his judgement concerning he place. Whether any extra service or discounts is the cause of his promotional activity and volume of business or the result of it really doesn't matter. The point is that the nature of that special relationship should be pointed out since it could bear on what a one-time visitor might not be able to expect in comparison. If Dino wants to preface his promotions with "IMHO, YMMV because I'm a regular semi-permanent resident at that hotel" caveat, and/or allow me to voice my own opinions on various subjects whether or not I happen to agree with him without accusing me of being intolerant, I'd be more than happy to let his Gran Via promotions go.

Dinoman
08-13-05, 19:21
You are a sick puppy.
Do you think I have an interest in the Hotel La Gran Via?
I wish I did.
I said in past post that I know the owner.
He is a Tico. and a friend, something, I am sure you know nothing about.
If he wants to give members of this website a deal that is his business.
Because of you I will not pass on any deals that he lets me know about.
If someone wants to e-mail or call him for a deal than that is up to them. In the past he asked me to post some deals that he was willing to give for the members and readers of this website but in the future I will refuse.
I will continue to give my opinions and if that includes mentioning the Hotel La Gran Via so be it.
As I stated in the past this website is the balls, maybe I am getting a kickback from WSG?
I was not the first member to mention the Gran Via, actually I first fond out about it from this website.
I spend lots of time in Costa Rica I have friends both male and female in CR. I have met other members in San Jose some stay at the Gran Via and others stay elsewhere. We go out for drinks and girls and have some fun.
Again this is a great site so try not to be so opinionated and respect other members.
If no one ever stays or goes to San Jose that will leave all the girls for me and that is a good thing.
I am planing a trip in September for 3 months if any members want to hook up PM me and we can make plans.
I would appreciate that you do not accuse me of kickbacks or whatever and please end your childish post on my behalf. Try not even mention my name.
You are a jerk and an instigator.
HAVE A GOOD LIFE?
Dinoman

Prolijo
08-13-05, 22:31
Dinoman,
I've said this before in great depth and yet you still don't seem to get it. I can only conclude that you're either completely dense or simply closeminded. However, I'll try one last time to explain.

You've stated your opinions and I've stated mine. That is what this forum is all about, a bunch of grown men calmly & respecfully exchanging questions & answers, facts & ideas and, yes, sometimes opinions. You may not like mine just as I have questioned yours. But despite your repeated baseless accusations, I've never questioned anywhere your right to express them, only the fact that you've already expressed them MANY times and that it was time to give it a rest. You can follow my advice and post about something else or you can continue to hype your hotel and I can draw whatever conclusions about that that I want. Ironically, it is actually YOU that seems to have the real problem (as evidenced by your hostility and namecalling) to me expressing my views a) because I've disagreed with you and b) because my posts have apparently exposed something you're embarassed about and/or you think makes you look bad.

I said this is a forum for adult discussion. I've stated the facts and reasoning that is the basis of my viewpoints and the readers can judge for themselves whether they have any merit. You on the other hand have resorted to childish name calling and baseless accusations. And now, like a child, you talk about taking your bat and ball and going home.

I agree with you completely that "WSG ROCKS", but I don't see you saying that in practically every post you make. Why do you feel you have to repeat yourself so many times regarding the Gran Via? I suggested one POSSIBLE explanation. I never stated it as a fact. If I was wrong, I'd really like to hear a better explanation for your fixation (Incidentally, I've got friends too, but that doesn't make it my life's work to promote their businesses). Better yet, what I'd really like to hear is you discussing ANYTHING else about CR with as much passion as you apparently have for this one hotel.

This whole argument has gotten really old. If you want to continue with your insulting rants and name-calling, I'm perfectly content to allow you to act like a fool. For my part, I'm going to take my own advise. I've tried to explain myself, tried repeating it when it was apparent you just didn't get it and now I think it is time to give it a rest.

Shamas
08-24-05, 04:52
Just my two Colones worth

Hotel Europa is a good place to stay. I've been there a few times and was very happy. No problem bringing in multiple amigas together. Breakfast is spartan but it's still free.

I walked my ole fat ass to the Del Ray & Pres many times each day, no problem.

Shamas O'Dognasty
Gourmet Catering and
Septic Tank Cleaning

Rabo Verde
08-24-05, 05:47
Sheesh! Enough already! The insults, not to mention the grammar mistakes, are getting boring!

www.sportsmenscr.com

"YOUR" is an adjective, as in "YOUR DICK".
"YOU'RE" is a contraction of YOU ARE, as in "YOU ARE A DICK".
"YOUR A DICK" or "YOUR WIERD" is incorrect.

For an extra bed, buy an inflatabe bed with pump and a fitted sheet at Walmart for about $25, they fit in your suitcase and are really comfortable. The Hotel Gran Via is a very nice place with a great location for a newbie who insists on staying in Gringo Gulch, altho I prefer Sportsmens. ANYTHING but the Hotel Del Rey or the Presidente!

WilliamWalker
08-24-05, 16:24
Guests are dying to stay in the Morazon.


From AM Costa Rica online newspaper today:

Death of U.S. citizen
subject of investigation

By the A.M. Costa Rica staff

A United States citizen found dead in the Morazán Hotel has been tentatively identified as Gary Gaudette, 50, said officials with the Judicial Investigation Organization.

Gaudette's body was found Saturday approximately 1:15 p.m., said officials. He reportedly entered his room earlier in the day with a woman. She left a short time later and when employees knocked on the door, no one answered, officials said. Upon entry, Gaudette's death appeared natural and none of his money or personal items were missing, officials said. The door was locked from the inside and there were no signs of violence.

An autopsy said that Gaudette had died of natural causes but officials are awaiting a toxicology report to determine whether his body had foreign substances in it.

Ace00
08-24-05, 22:07
I want to post what I wrote in 2003 about a bad experience staying at the Royal Dutch Casino and Hotel.
Some folks like it but I do not. Here is why:

Quote of my post:

I checked into the Royal Dutch Hotel, above the casino, upon arrival Thursday Aug. 28, with Shamas.
They would not accept any credit card except Visa. They charged my Visa account $375 upon arrival saying they would recharge the correct total later. That hit me wrong, since I was staying five days at $29 a day, so I backed out of the charge card transaction and paid a cash deposit in advance on a day by day basis. The $29 rate is a special ask in advance rate.
They wanted extra to use your room phone to call a cell number, about a $2 a day fee. The safe was $3 a day extra. There was a $5 chica guest fee per chica.
No breakfast was included as I anticipated.
The one hotel elevator worked some times but one time I saw a gringa stranded at the bottom with her luggage because the elevator was not working for hours.
There is only one or maybe two desk clerks at any one time and no other hotel staff present. No bell hops, no door security, no full time floor maids, no housekeeping supervisor, no reservation or office area. No real effort to be a hotel. There was casino security and the casino was full of local characters. Not many tourists or gringos.
When I went to the restaurant for breakfast the first day, they were totally unprepared. No coffee, no set tables, no waitstaff, no nothing. I walked out and over to the News Cafe and paid for the buffet.
I did notice the disco was going strong at 8 A.M. Friday morning with dancers and beer drinkers from the night before. So was the music going all night long. I was on the fifth floor and did not hear it but it could be heard from the third floor all night long.
There were no taxis waiting outside and the taxis were hard to get without walking to Second Avenue.
You could invite multiple chicas at the same time.
No room service, no chair in the room, no table to dine upon if there was room service, no ice machine, no remote control for the TV, no lobby to sit and meet guests, no bar. There may be breakfast room service (but where would you sit?)
My travel buddy went thru two rooms before there was a working air conditioner, and then only after he called for service.
All in all it was a real low class third world dive not worth the discounted price. By the time I added the cost of breakfast, $6, and the taxi rides to the gultch and the chica fees and phone charges it was about the same as the TSM rate at the Presidente but without any of the extras the Presidente offers.
I checked out of the Royal Dutch as soon as a room opened up at the Presidente on Sunday and felt a lot better. The chicas told me they liked the Presidente better, too and felt comfortable there. The chicas thought too many druggie types hung around the Royal Dutch.
I forgot to add in the previous message that hot water was available only about one half the time resulting in a cold shower or two.

Prolijo
08-24-05, 23:13
William W,
At least that death was from natural causes. Such things are bound to happen from time to time. Do you remember this story from a couple of years ago at the Del Rey http://www.ticotimes.net/dailyarchive/2003_07/Week3/07_16_03.htm? In that case, a hotel guest may not have been dying to stay there but he was definitely dying to get out. He jumped to his death from a 4th floor balcony.

Frankly, I'm surprised there aren't more guys dropping dead from heart attacks in the Gulch given the number I see that are older, overweight, drinking heavily, smoking and trying to keep up with young chicas half their age.

NastyBoy
08-24-05, 23:51
That sounds like a real dive ass joint. A real shit hole. What?! No Hot Water?! Fuck that.

I always stay at the Hotel Best Western Downtown, and even though it is in the Zona Roja, the place is first class. First class service from the employees. More than enough hot water. So much more that I always end up scalding my ass. Air conditioning is too fucking cold, but then again I don't need it down there. It's always cool. Taxi fare to Zona Blue is less than a dollar. Security is good. And the price is cheap cheap cheap. They do advertise $1 daily fee for the safe, but when I checked out she waived it. I called down to get the rate to call a cell....she said 3/100 of a cent. I guess that's pretty cheap. But the best of all...Pizza Hut delivers!!! My future reservation is $51 daily. I was paying $60 scoring it through the AA site after booking my flight. This time I went ahead and joined the Best Western frequent visitor club and now I get a better rate and airline miles. The view of the mountains ain't too shabby either.

NB

Oh yeah, daily supply of that damn good Costa Rican coffee in the room too is a good perk.

Dr Travel Man
08-27-05, 19:44
Hi all,

Planning an upcoming trip. I have over 100K Holiday Inn points. Is this hotel chica friendly? I have read nothing about it which I am taking as a bad sign.

SAN JOSE-AUROLA
5TH AVE AND 5TH STREET
P O BOX 7802
SAN JOSE, N/A
COSTA RICA
506-2-222424

Downtown: SAN JOSE 0.3 KM/ 0.19 MI

Prolijo
08-29-05, 03:21
They definitely allow you to bring chicas back but I believe they charge a $25 chica fee. If you consider that to be chica friendly, then the answer is yes, but if I were you I'd prefer to stay somewhere else. OTOH, if you plan to do all your mongering at MP's and strip joints the chica fee may not matter. OR if those 100K points gets you a free stay than paying $25 for a chica may not matter anyway. On the plus side it is directly across Morazon Park from the KL or about 100 yds. Just don't pick up any "chicas" in the park or you might be in for a rude surprise when you get up to your room.

If you go direct for the elevators with a chica without checking in first they'll probably stop you. One way you can avoid the chica fee by is by taking up the stairs to the bar on the second floor and then discreetly go to the elevator there after having a couple of drinks. Just remember if you don't check her in and you have any problems (such as her running out with your wallet), you have no verified record of her identity and no recourse. Checking them in is as much for your protection as it is for any benefit to the hotel.

I've also heard this HI is fairly run down. Don't think that just becuase it is an american chain that it will be any nicer than one of the other more chica-friendly hotels you see listed here.

NastyBoy
08-29-05, 21:36
I was thinking of visiting for a couple of weeks in December and started looking into a weekly rental on an apartment. I contacted this realtor online and this is the reply:

"I am sorry, but this rental has already been taken as of December 10th
until January 10th ..That is high season here and it will even be difficult to find a hotel for the holidays now that we are approaching September."

What is the latest one should wait before everything is sold out? I mean after all, it's still August.

TIA,

NB

Prolijo
08-30-05, 02:06
NastyBoy,
It sounds like you need to get a different realtor. I realize that the volume of tourists coming to CR is getting heavier and heavier every year and that will b during high season, but I can't believe every hotel and apartment would be booked up 4 months in advance. Either that guy was lazy, coping an attitude for some reason, or only represented a very limited selection of properties. Not that that means you should procrastinate or anything. But you might want to extend your search beyond those places more heavily advertised to traditional tourists on the internet.

For some ideas check out my earlier post here http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?t=1955&page=2&pp=24. I'll beat Dinoman to the punch on this, the Hotel La Gran Via has weekly rates. Just do a search for any of DM's posts for more details (I'm only teasing you DM, lighten up:) ). Actually that really might be a valid option. You'd only have one room (ie no kitchen facilities) if that matters to you, but you could request a mini-fridge and there is a market right across the street. As far as I know, DM never mentioned what the Gran Via weekly rates were, but since the monthly rates of $750-850 for their hotel rooms were in the same range as the rates at the Scotland Apartments ($600-900/mo), I'd guess their weekly rates would probably fall in the same $250-350/wk range or about 20% off their regular nightly rates. The Hotel Castillo also offers a 20% discount off their regular $40/nt rate ($252/wk) or $65/nt ($390/wk) for a room with a kitchenette.

All of those rates are pricey by regular tico standards, where furnished apartments often rent for $400 for the whole month. You can find listings in http://www.economicos.com under "Bienes Raices>En Alquiler>Apartamentos". Of course, it will help considerably if you can read spanish. Those ads are not targeted to english speaking gringo tourists so the prices will probably be better than the rates you found on-line They'd also be more likely to have vacancies though perhaps less likely to rent by the week. No pain, no gain. You have to do your homework. Ads in the Tico times, while in English, will be a bit pricier, but still probably much better than those Hotels and Apartotels. Some examples:

APARTAMENTOS SUDAMER Downtown completely furnished apartments, safe secure, telephone, cable TV, all utilities included. Calle 7, Ave. 14. Weekly from $160. Monthly from $450 to $600. Phone 221-0247, 381-3183, fax 222-2195 carlosedmena@yahoo.com

APARTOTEL Linda Vista one bedroom apartments, fully furnished, Santa Ana area, 15 mins. from airport, suite for a week + SUV rental. www.LindaVistaCR.com

*#1 FULLY furn, studios, put kit + bath, TV, ph, new const, near Hotel Del Rey- Mall San Pedro, $265/mo. Tel. 356-8747

That last one looks a little suspect to me. But both Sudamer and Linda Vista are known to be very "monger-friendly" and are well reviewed. I've personally stayed at Linda Vista and although it is a little further out from downtown but for only $125/wk would definitely recommend it for those staying in SJ for a week or longer and who want to economize a little.

Prolijo
08-30-05, 02:19
Ooops, that ad was for a different Linda Vista. The one that I stayed at and recommend is in Calle Blanco just north of downtown. The one advertised in the tico times was for someplace out in Escazu. The website for the Linda Vista that I meant to recommend is http://vistalinda.webcindario.com/frame.htm

Jaimito Cartero
08-30-05, 03:14
They definitely allow you to bring chicas back but I believe they charge a $25 chica fee.

Someone reported that if you are an elite Priority Club member that they will waive the chica fees for you. I know I would never recommend a place that charged chica fees, so I would check to be sure before you used any points.

Fred C Dobbs
08-30-05, 05:49
Me and my traveling buddy are making our first trip to Costa Rica this December. I e-mailed Sudamer and was told it is too early to think about booking this soon. He told me to contact him again in October. I then e-mailed Linda Vista and have a one bedroom apartment rented from December 25th through January 16th. I am bringing my inflatable mattress and we will split the cost of an apartment. The rate is usd 145 per week plus 25 for the extra guest.

As info, I have been checking airfares Los Angeles/SJO and there are some good deals this fall with American Airlines. I found one for usd 322 round trip including taxes. I am thinking that other departure cities would be cheap too since they all connect through Miami or New York. Go to travelocity and enter flexible dates.

Lastly, Linda Vista advised there are buses every ten minutes to downtown from their place. They run from 5am to 11pm.

Fred C Dobbs
08-30-05, 06:26
Thanks Chase Star for you apartment update. If you or anyone else gets more info on the studio apartment, I would love to hear about it.

NastyBoy
08-30-05, 22:51
Thanks Chase,

I appreciate the information.

http://axnmls.com/propview_full.php?propnum=700

This is the property I was thinking of. This one looks a little more private. Seems to have everything and the price is right. And it isn't to far from downtown. Plus Alajuela, up in the mountains, should be a great experience. Too bad it's gone.

You're right about checking with other realtors. Vista Linda looks pretty good too.

Thanks again.

NB

NastyBoy
08-30-05, 23:02
Chase,

I was browsing the listings you recommended at economicos.com. When the price is quoted at 95,000 colones, is that weekly or monthly? Do you know? I was perusing the listings in Alajuela.

NB

Ford
08-30-05, 23:40
Hi all,

Planning an upcoming trip. I have over 100K Holiday Inn points. Is this hotel chica friendly? I have read nothing about it which I am taking as a bad sign.

SAN JOSE-AUROLA
5TH AVE AND 5TH STREET
P O BOX 7802
SAN JOSE, N/A
COSTA RICA
506-2-222424

Downtown: SAN JOSE 0.3 KM/ 0.19 MI

Hi Travel Man,

I stayed at this hotel 3 weeks ago. Its very nice! High quality rooms, nice indoor pool, live piano in the lobby. The best thing about this hotel however is the location. It is right in the "gulch" area overlooking Parque Morazan. Its a very short stroll to the DEl Rey, Key Largo, New York Bar, Monkey Bar etc.

I have some "hooks" in the travel industry so I was paying $40 a night for an executive room so a guest charge wasn't going to hurt me - but here's the thing. There is an "official" charge of $25 a night for company (true) but I found that this policy wasn't enforced late at night - if you came in after 11PM when the night crew is on , they tend to just wave you through.

Don't forget the people that set these policies are the owner and the General Manager but at 11pm the person who is supposed to enforce it is just the 23 year old front desk manager and one ragedy security guard. ;)

I was told on this board that the Holiday Inn's weren't guest friendly in Managua, Nicaragaua or San Pedro Sula, Honduras but I found that in both places if you assert yourself, especially late at night these guest fees can become rather flexible rules. ;)

have fun,
FORD

SanJoseFan
10-02-05, 00:36
First posting to the forum (I have been lurking for years but recently upgraded to member status) so please bear with me.

I just booked my airfare for my second trip of the year to San Jose for the above days. Much to my disappointment I just recieved word from the Sportsman's that they are sold for the four days.

I am looking at either the Holiday Inn San Jose Aurola or the Presidente, I know each has its own strengths and weakness but was wondering about the following speific questions.

1. What is the pool like at the Holiday Inn, last time I spent almost my time mongering and thaught maybe just maybe this time out a little relaxation at a pool might be nice as well

2. Can anyone confirm or deny if the best rate on the Internet offerd at the Holiday Inn is indeed the best rate (currently $95 USD) I heard someone once say they have lower rates but you have to ask.

3. Just how loud does the Preisdente get? Again like question one above, some relaxation and peace and quiet might, just might be nice.

Thanks in advance and if you are in the are on the above days the first drink is on me.

Member #3104
10-06-05, 19:14
I thank all for the great information in this thread. I am also curious about the indoor pool at the Holiday Inn. Is it comfortable? I usually stay at the Best Western out by the airport. It has a casino, nice rooms, gym,safe, frig ( extra) free internet service, no chica fee and a large pool, but usually cold and not plesant to be in for long. So I travel to Jaco if I want a warm pool. If anyone knows of a warm pool in San Jose please let me know. My D*** is short enough without cold water. Also the girls look great when they are enjoying the surroundings.

Thanks

NastyBoy
10-13-05, 20:44
about the hotel across from the KFC on Paseo Colon up the street from Oasis?

I got to Oasis early one day and had to kill some time before they opened. I headed up towards the KFC where the Col. is sitting out front on the bench. I noticed a real nice, quaint looking hotel across the street and have forgotten the name. Anybody know anything about this place? Is it clean? Quiet? I'm looking at GetRythm's map and I see Elite one block over to the left. I didn't notice Elite while I was cruising, but the hotel, (a yellowish color building with a lot of foilage outside) looked fairly decent. I'm thinking that's maybe the place to stay since it's within walking distance to Oasis.

Any help would be appreciated. TIA.

NB

Prolijo
10-13-05, 23:14
NB,
I can't help you with the place you describe but I can tell you something about some other hotels in that area. First of all, I'm a little confused by your directions since, if you're standing in front of the KFC, Elite is off to the right across the street (south side). BTW, I've attached a worthless photo of a guy who is always there with a smile to help out the lost gringo.

Anyway if you cross Paseo Colon and go 2 blocks you'll come to Grano D'Oro on the right hand side of the street. It is NOT a budget hotel, but it is very nice. Not sure how chica-friendly it would be.

Go back towards Paseo Colon and bang a right on Avenida 2 and go one block you will come to the Petit Vitoria which is a much more moderately priced B&B ($30-40/nt + tax incl bkfast) that has gotten good reviews on generic CR boards. Again not sure how chica friendly it is, but as a general rule B&B type places such as Grano D'Oro, Petit and the place you describe are often not the most chica-friendly.

Go one block north back to Paseo Colon and head back towards the downtown one block and you will come across the Hotel Ambassador between C28 y C26 (about 3-4 blocks from Oasis). The Ambassador is a modern style hotel that runs about $45/nt + tax, IS chica friendly and probably is your best bet in that area. Not sure if there are any extra fees for chica guests but maybe someone else can help us out.

All of the above places are on the latest map, as are at least 4 other MP's besides in that area besides Oasis

NastyBoy
10-14-05, 02:41
You sure Prolijo lives in Tampa? With so much knowledge you'd think he lived right there in San Jose. :D

LOL on the pic of the Colonel. Not only will he help you if you're lost, but he can help you if you're hungry too.

Anywaze I do believe it was the Petit Vitoria and it's right across the street diagonally corner to corner from KFC. Looked nice from the outside. I shoulda gone over and chatted with them, but I saw an internet cafe down the street so I went there instead to kill some time.

This area looks a lot nicer and safer than the Zona Roja where the Best Western San Jose is. Some Ticos told me Zona Roja means red light district. That explains Josephines, 747, and the lilac place next door all within two blocks of the hotel. I wonder how quiet it is at the Petit Vitoria with all the traffic on the Paseo Colon? There also seemed to be other conveniences besides KFC, the internet, Oasis and Machu Pichu near there. The price is certainly right. Where can I read those reviews and maybe figure out if I have to share a bath or walk down the hallway and even make a reservation online?

Thanks again. This area looks just as promising as Gringo Gulch.

NB

Prolijo
10-14-05, 07:08
The Petit Vitoria is on Ave. 2 not Paseo Colon. I went and looked it up for you and I think the place you're referring to is actually the Hotel Rosa del Paseo www.rosadelpaseo.com. Green season rates there start at $55/nt+tax for a single ($10 more for a double)

NastyBoy
10-14-05, 20:48
Yes it does look more like what I saw. Except now it has much more foilage out front. Prices are competitive with where I have been staying so this looks like a great alternative.

Thanks again.

NB

Prolijo
10-15-05, 02:51
Again not sure how chica friendly it is, but as a general rule B&B type places such as Grano D'Oro, Petit and the place you describe are often not the most chica-friendly.B&B type places often cater largely to gringo couples, half of whom may not appreciate the site of older gringo men with young chicas. Yeah, those gringa bitches are fucked up but the B&B's owners probably don't want to alienate their bread and butter.

Maybe this place has about the same base price as many other hotels we already know to be chica-friendly, but you won't find their chica guest fees or policies posted on their website. I'd strongly recommend you not be shy and find out exactly what those policies are before making any reservation (and let us know what you find out).

Incidently, some hotels may not have an official fee for unregistered guests but at the same time may not exactly encourage that sort of activity in their establishments. One possible partial way around that is to have your "novia del dia" register along with you as a second guest and pay the double rate. Of course, you'll be limited to only one chica per day that way. Also, if she's registered in the room make sure she doesn't get a key. Finally, only try that with chicas that dress and act relatively discreetly rather than like a hard core HDR/BM puta. If this place turns out to be a hotel like that only you can decide whether it is worth it to you to have to put up with those restrictions.

NastyBoy
10-15-05, 17:10
I haven't upgraded my game yet to bringing back babes back to the hotel.

I normally stay at the Best Western San Jose and their policy is to pay $10 + register them in the "guest" book. I didn't wanna leave a trail so I asked if I could falsify my information in the book. The desk clerk said I could use a different name but not a different room number so I passed. But later I spoke on the phone with a chickie from ZB I wanted to bring to my room but the soonest she could make it was early the next morning. I talked again with another desk clerk and this time she allowed me to waive the fee and registration because it would have been so early. Unfortunatley the chica was not reliable ( or maybe it was too early for her ) and she did not show. So that was the end of that.

About dressed up girlfriends, I once saw an older guy escorting one hell of a beauty dressed to the nines to the lobby. She looked my way and I kinda figured I knew what was up. I really wanted to ask him if he was finished with it and to let me get a turn, but shit, I got a little more class than that so I lost out on that one.

I was considering Rosa Del Paseo simply for the walking distance to Oasis. And yes now that you mention it, for the other MPs in the area. Also I need a quiet place for recuperation and that damn Best Western can't handle quieting down the noise some inconsiderate guests make. Even at 3 in the fucking morning. If that shit happened in the USA they would throw those noisy cocksuckers out.

Thanks for the help with the Rosa. If I do take one there I will let you know.

NB

Prolijo
10-16-05, 04:09
Nasty,
You've got me confused. Exactly what type of trail are you afraid of leaving? If you bring a girl back to your room she's going to find out what room number you are in as soon as you open its door. So what good would falsifying it at check-in do? And say she somehow finds out what room you're in. Again, what does it matter? Hotel security would probably not just let any strange chica just walk through the lobby to the guest rooms and even if they did what is she going to do without a key? Pick the lock? Bust down the door? You have more to fear in terms of a would-be novia coming to see you, and finding you with another chica and getting jealous. It doesn't happen often, but many hotel doorman and front desk clerks can be surprising good at covering for you. These are latino guys that know how the game is played. They're not about to buzz your room or send up a visiting chica when they know you've just checked in with another.

As for the name thing, I doubt many of these girls pay any more attention to our real name on the sign-in form than we do to theirs. Think about it, my guess is if you've ever really looked to see what the girl's real name on her cedula was you probably quickly forgot it. And say she gets your real name, what is she really going to do with it? Track you down back in the US? I doubt it, particularly without an address and probably at best only a vague idea of even what part of the US you're from and certainly not a phone number or e-mail address unless you give it to them. Again if you have to have somethig to worry about, be far more concerned that she finds out your handle on this board and somehow finds out about all the nasty photos of her you've been posting here and the nasty details of your encounters.

BTW, re the ZB girl and extracurricular activities, be very careful. That is a big no-no. ZB girls can and have lost their jobs for seeing ZB customers outside of work. In fact, I know of at least one indiscrete gringo that has been banned from ZB for getting found out after enticing a girl to break the rules and then posting the evidence. If you try to go fishing there, be extremely discrete. Also, as for the no-show, are you really surprised? How long did you wait? Are you familiar with the concept of "Tica Time"? Maybe she showed up an hour or more late, maybe it got so late she had to go work, maybe she forgot, maybe she did not want to offend you and just told you she'd meet you because she thought that was what you wanted to hear (another tico characteristic). From what I've seen these chicas are far from the most dependable girls in the world and a no-show or late-show happens far more often than not, particularly with chicas you've just met.

Tuna Man
10-16-05, 13:21
Really guys, don't screw it up for the ZB girls. It's like a lot of guys drooling over the BM bartenders. WHY? With all the available women around, why waste your vacation time and money making end runs for?

You may think you are a knight in shining armor to the ZB girl by taking her out to dinner and paying her well, but what happens when you go back to Gringaland and she is fired?

If you like them, session with them and tip them. When you return, you will have a better time, and she will still have her job.

Prolijo
11-10-05, 23:39
Marak5,
Just out of curiousity. How long have you been going to CR? How many times have you been there? How long do you typically stay (2 nights is far shorter than most visitors)? And have you stayed at any other hotel in SJ, particularly any of the other hotels mentioned on this site?

Dr Pureness
11-26-05, 02:16
First posting to the forum so please bear with me.

I just booked my airfare to San Jose for the above days. Much to my disappointment I just recieved word from the Sportsman's that they are sold for the whole week.

I'm just going to fly out to San Jose without and hotel reservation and do you guys think I can just walk into a hotel in the gulch area upon arrival and find a room?

I am looking for a chica friendly ( no chica fees ) in the $40-$50 range hotels in the safe gulch area. Any ideas fellow mongers?

Thanks in advance!

Lance Manion
12-01-05, 04:21
First posting to the forum so please bear with me.

I just booked my airfare to San Jose for the above days. Much to my disappointment I just recieved word from the Sportsman's that they are sold for the whole week.

I'm just going to fly out to San Jose without and hotel reservation and do you guys think I can just walk into a hotel in the gulch area upon arrival and find a room?

I am looking for a chica friendly ( no chica fees ) in the $40-$50 range hotels in the safe gulch area. Any ideas fellow mongers?

Thanks in advance!Just got back from five nights in CR and can recommend The Clarion Amon Plaza. Nice sized rooms, great staff, steps from Zona Blue, New Fantasy and Sportsman, good breakfast and the best casino for Blackjack in San Jose (IMHO). They are running a special through the casino for $60 (incl tax) and b'fast. Also, no chica fee. Only drawback is that you must use taxi at night, but I have never been charged more than $4 for rides into the gulch.

Prolijo
12-01-05, 20:28
The Amon Plaza is a really nice hotel. Its on the edge of the relatively safe Amon barrio about 5 blocks west of the SL. However, if you go a few blocks further west, you're in the Zona Roja, which is not so safe after dark. If heading to or from the Gulch, it is probably best to take a cab at night as Lance suggested. If the cabfare is more than even 1K colones ($2) you're being taken for a ride. Walking around during the day it is perfectly safe and after dark the main danger comes from the lack of other people in the area. "The safe gulch area" in some ways is not so safe. There are more people around which helps but there are also more would-be crooks attracted to the concentration of rich drunk gringos. Don't get too paranoid as you want to have a good time, but don't simply assume that any particular area is safe either.

As to your particular question. The casino VIP rates at the Amon are $60/nt weekends and $65/nt during the weekdays. Those rates include taxes and so are equivalent to $51-56/nt elsewhere. This is more than the $40-50 price range that #3831 mentioned. Those rooms normally go for much more so if you can get those rates it may well be worth it. Also, I believe those are CRT VIP rates since the rates listed on the casino website are $75/nt and the rates at the Clarion Hotels website are even higher than that. If you're interested in staying there at the VIP rate, you'll need to book directly through Nixon, the casino manager, rather than going through the website. The contact info is: Tel#506-378-6775 or info@casino-paradiso.com.

If any of those rates are still too high for you you can try the Presidente ($49/nt + tax CRT VIP rate) or the Morazon ($39/nt + tax - insist on that rate and print out and reconfirm your reservations). A couple of blocks west of the Gulch is La Gran Via (in the right price range but not sure of current rates). Also in the same area as the SL is the Hotel Castillo and the Hemingway (both chica friendly and cheap). You will need reservations for most hotels in SJ at that time of year and this close to your departure the time to make them is NOW (if its not already too late). I would not go to SJ during the holiday season expecting to be able to just walk into a hotel without reservations. If those places are all booked up, there are a number of less well known hotels that are chica friendly and not TOO far from the Gulch where you still might be able to get a room even without a reservation. PM me if you run into a problem.

Lorenzo
12-20-05, 09:07
I am planning a trip to Central America in March-April of 2006. I already have my plane tickets and am now making hotel reservations. I will be in Costa Rica first week of April. To put this in perspective, I am an experienced monger, mostly Brazil and Thailand, I speak Spanish, but I have never been to Costa Rica, or anywhere else in Central America, before.

So here's my question: after reading every post in this thread, I have narrowed my hotel choices down to Del Rey or Sportsmens, but I'm having a hard time choosing between them. I'm leaning toward Del Rey because it seems the most logical for a first time visitor. After all, the chicas are right there, so it's just a matter of bringing them up to the room, and they're available round the clock. On the other hand, some of the reports make it sound super grungy, and I am also concerned whether the noise from the casino will keep me awake, especially since I'll have to get up early for a flight on checkout day. Sportsmens seems like a nicer place, but it appears to be some distance from the action. So I'd like to hear from some mongers who have stayed at both: what's best for a first time visitor, Del Rey or Sportsmens? I hope to make my reservations within the next couple of days. Thanks in advance for feedback.

Lorenzo

Sun Devil
12-20-05, 15:58
It depends on what is important to you. The Sportsmen, albeit being away from the gulch, is less than 5 minutes by taxi cab (San Jose CR is really that small). You can bring a girl that you have met at the Del Ray with no problem and they won't charge you. Also it is fairly quiet at night so you'll have to somewhat be pretty quiet when coming in order not to wake your fellow guests, plus they turn off the lights at the lobby, so it is fairly dim.

Like Del Ray, there are some P4P girls who wait at the bar for customers, but not as many as those working at the Del Ray.

If you don't mind sleeping in a somewhat raucous atmosphere, you can go to the Del Ray, which not only has girls 24/7, but also a casino, a dining facility, and a bar. You can meet a girl and whisk her upstair immediately, plus you don't have to pay a taxi driver. Also some girls are askance about leaving the gulch area due to security reason, so they might not agree with you in going to the Sportsmen.

Prolijo
12-21-05, 03:10
I agree with Sun Devil that it depends on what is important to you. They both have their good points. Or at least, the HDR has its good points FOR NEWBIES. Personally for me it would be an easy choice (the SL). Before I go into what makes the HDR good for newbies, let me explain why I think the SL would be better for most guys and counter some of the arguments Sun Devil made which I disagree with.

The cab ride is little more than a buck, if that, so having to pay a taxi driver is really a trivial factor. OTOH, the chica fee at the HDR is $10 for every chick you bring upstairs, ie much more significant.

It MIGHT repeat MIGHT take 5 minutes to take a cab back to the SL during rush hour. I'd probably just walk that relatively short distance during the day (a rather pleasant 5-6 block stroll through a couple of parks and past a few interesting buildings). I've even known guys that have strolled back to the SL with their chicas after dark, though I probably wouldn't recommend that. Later at night the ride is more like 60 seconds.

There ARE chicas that are reluctant to go with you to more distant hotels like the BW Irazu. However, very FEW of them would be that adverse to going to any of the nearby hotels like the SL. For those that are, IMHO, it is not a "security" issue as much as a "turnaround" issue. The quicker they can get to the hotel room with you, the quicker they can get you off and the quicker they can get back to the BM and work on their next score. In fact, there is a game that some vets play at the BM when they see certain chicas walking up the stairs with their latest newbie acquisition and that is to bet on how quickly she'll be back (I believe the record is in the 20-25 minute range). Believe me, you're just as well off avoiding those chicas (not to mention not wanting to be the subject of other guys' ridicule). For most chicas, the slight extra distance won't be a major factor and for every one where it is there will be PLENTY of others where it won't be a factor AT ALL.

Sun Devil also mentioned the "benefit" of being able to "whisk a girl upstairs immediately". That might be an important advantage for you. But if it is then you've probably rushed too quickly through the barside prescreening. And if you haven't, then what difference does an extra 3-4 minutes really make getting back to your hotel?

Finally on chicas, Sun Devil says there are more P4P girls at the HDR/BM. This is definitely true and is arguably the biggest real advantage for the HDR. However, again IMHO, the important differences is not purely a quantitative one. The HDR is a hotel most popular with CR newbies (and often new to mongering). Out of the chicas you'll find there the percentage that are out for the overpaying guy that doesn't know any better is much higher. It is harder to bargain a girl down to a reasonable rate there then it might be at other places (they hold closer to the CIEN/HORA there than elsewhere). A lot of vets I know, though they may go there to enjoy the eye candy and chat with friends, no longer fish there at all. For some it is because they've got novias, but for many it is because they've found much more reasonably priced (and better attitudes) at other venues, including MP's, other bars and even some strip clubs. Even as a CR newbie yourself but as a forum reader yo'll have the advance knowledge of knowing where some of these other places are, but you'll still probably spend a lot of your initial trip to CR at the BM. So this HDR advantage can't be completely dismissed.

That pretty much takes care of the chica and transportation issues. What about the atmosphere?

You should try to be reasonably quiet when returning to your room WHEREEVER you stay as just a matter of common courtesy. The problem with hotels like the SL and the Prez is that they have tiled floors as opposed to carpeting in their common areas and so hallway noise carries more. OTOH, hotels with carpeting (like the HDR and the Morazon) tend to get grungier over time. The HDR can get very noisy from casino noise on the first floor and there is a skylight chamber above that which carries that noise to the upper floors. Again whereever you stay, its not a bad idea to travel with earplugs which is very effective at eliminating any noise problem.

Sun Devil said another advantage of the HDR is that it "not only has girls 24/7, but also a casino, a dining facility, and a bar." If it is important for you to be able to grab a bite or gamble at 3 or 4 in the morning without going out, then stay at the HDR. There are some excellent restaurants near the SL (including the Cafe Mundo and JR Ribs) but it is in a quiet neighborhood which is completely dead later at night. OTOH, at other times I'd strongly recommend you go elsewhere to eat if you stay at the HDR as their restaurants are really overpriced for what you get. In fact, for better and cheaper late-night/early-morning eats I'd go to Chelles Bar, which is halfway between the HDR and the Prez.

I promised you I'd tell you what makes the HDR good for newbies. I have to dig deep for this but I would say this. It is a unique and raucous atmosphere that should be experienced once. The HDR is not stupid and they know they can charge a premium for that unique experience (and the fact that so many would-be CR mongers don't know of anything else) and they take full advantage of that. I don't know how long you plan to stay. You might find that the novelty wears thin very quickly, particularly since you're not new to mongering. So if I were to recommend the HDR for you, it wouldn't be for more than a few nights. Beyond that, you might plan to try the HDR for a few nights and switch to a different hotel for the rest of your trip. As to that hotel the SL would be a good choice. But if the relative remoteness gives you pause, consider someplace like the Prez or the Morazon, both only a block or less away from the BM.

Lorenzo
12-21-05, 07:04
It is a unique and raucous atmosphere that should be experienced once.

Chase Star,

Many thanks for your voluminous response. It is the one sentence above from your report that is making me lean toward the HDR. This will probably be my only trip to CR, so I would hate to leave without experiencing a world famous mongering site (famous to mongers, that is). I searched my memory and tried to recall if I had ever stayed at a strictly mongering hotel, and I remembered the Malaysia in Bangkok. That tended to be a monger paradise because there were working girls hanging in the bar 24/7, but it got old fast. But you're right, one could check into the HDR, then check out if it became too raucous. However, the posts on this thread gave me the impression that the SL gets filled up far in advance, so it would be difficult to check in there on the spur of the moment. But WTF, there's always someplace to go. I'll be staying in CR 5 days total, because I'll be doing all 7 CA countries on a 30 day trip, so if I need to catch up on my sleep I can always check into a 4-5 star hotel on the last night.

I've been mongering in Brazil for years and am wise to the trick of the chica wanting to leave after 20-25 minutes, or right after you get off the first time. I couldn't care less about the ridicule of other mongers; how do they know I didn't throw her out (which I have been known to do)? I always negotiate the time and the services I expect before we go to the room; if she really appeals to me and there is some obvious chemistry, I'll negotiate for TLN. And most importantly, I never give her money upfront. I always keep mongering money in the safe and open it up to pay her when she leaves. If she insists on money upfront, I open the door and invite her to leave. They nearly always back down and agree to be paid afterward. If they don't fulfill the terms of the contract, e.g., wanting to leave after she agreed to TLN, I'll pay her, but not the full amount we agreed on. The percentage will vary with how much she fulfilled what she agreed to do, but usually 50-75%. If she performed exceptionally well, I may pay her nearly all of what we agreed on, but never all, because after all, a promise is a promise. This has worked for me in Brazil, so I don't see why it wouldn't in CR.

One more question (for Chase Star or anybody): can the chica fee at the HDR be avoided if you book a double room in advance? This is what I usually do, and when I check into a hotel I tell them that my fiancee will arrive later. Whoever I first go up with is, of course, my fiancee, and I've already paid for her. When they give me the key for the second guest, I just keep it myself and show both keys when I go up with the chica. Something tells me this wouldn't work at the HDR. Most non-mongering hotels charge the same whether there are one guests or two, but I see that HDR charges more for a double. So could the double room charge be considered a standing chica fee? If not, then I may as well book a single. Thanks in advance for any info along these lines.

Lorenzo

Rabo Verde
12-21-05, 18:39
The Hotel Del Rey is a pigsty for people who don't know any better.
Go to the Sportsmens.

Shadow 97
12-21-05, 22:30
I really appreciate all you had to say in your post. Sincerely. I am headed to CR (my third trip in as many years) in the beginning of February. I don't know if I'll be going alone or with mongering buddies. But, regardless, you can bet you a--, I'm going. I was planning on the Prez. Could I trouble you to throw in your opinions on that versus the Sportsmen's.

Most of the chicas there do remember me, from my previous trips, so I'm not worried about negotiating prices with the few I am definitely going back to see and the FEW unfamiliars I plan to audition. Oh and I'll be staying five nights, so I definitely agree with you about the DR, it got old for me both times. I want to avoid staying there at all costs. Also, How far in advance would I have to book either of those options? I'd like to get that done at the beginning of the year.

One more thing, I definitely agree with. If you stay at the DR keep your own personal count, by some written means, of how many girls you take upstairs. I think the hotel security's pens slip every now and again. I know I didn't entertain THAT much company the last time.

Member #2041
12-22-05, 01:38
No question. Sportsmen's Lodge is vastly preferable to the Del Rey.

Prolijo
12-22-05, 03:30
2041 & Rabo,
I realize I may have been overly charitable. You will note what I said MY choice would be. I think about the best that could be said about the HDR is that it is a "unique" experience. OTOH, surprisingly enough, there are actually SOME people that actually love the place, even the occasional CR vet. If you've never stayed there before, it wouldn't be the most horrible thing to try it out for yourself. I think the odds are pretty good that one night would be more than enough to get a sense of what it's like (assuming all the negative comments here weren't already sufficient). If it turns out that you agree, the worst that will happen is that you'll have one bad night. More likely, you may not want to ever repeat but it won't be THAT horrible and you'll have had the chance to have experienced it for yourself.

As far as pre-booking at the SL, what's the problem? If you want to spend one night at the HDR to try it out, just make your reservation at the SL for starting the next night. Also, I didn't see any reply by Lorenzo, 2041 or Rabo to my suggestion of the Prez (or Morazon) as another alternative. They're not as raucous or overpriced as the HDR but they're not as far removed from the Gulch action scene as the SL.

Finally as far as booking rooms as a double. That would most likely not work at any of the Gringo Gulch mongering hotels for anumber of reasons. First of all most of the girls that work the HDR are well known to the management after all the hang out at the bar in the lobby and make frequent trips upstairs with other guys. Telling the front desk they are your fiancee or novia won't fool anyone. Secondly, couples simply do not stay at the HDR. Even if you brought in an unknown pro that you picked up someplace further removed from the BM, your not going to fool anyone. BTW, if you hope to try and work any non-pro's (or even some semi-pro's) forget about the HDR. It has a well-known seedy reputation and "nice" girls do not want to be seen going in there. Finally, most hotels in the area do have differential pricing for single vs. double occupancy (typically $10). While that technique may be a useful way to get around guest policies at non-monger hotels, since it also restricts you to only one chica per day and doesn't save you any money it wouldn't any help at all vs. simply paying the regular chica fee.

Armorer
12-22-05, 12:26
Well
I just returned from my number 8 trip this year. I have stayed mostly with the sportsmens lodge. Have visited a few others. To me I stay at the sportsmens for the laid back,atmosphere, it is getting more action then it was. As time goes on it grows in size and reputation. Bill is agreat host, and very knowlegable. Where I see the HDR as a place to visit I would not like the noise and traffic of the place. I have walked to and from HDR and SL at all times of the day and night. Just ask Bill or Ray, or anyone who knows me.
I mean its only a short walk, or like 2 min cab ride if they get cought by a light or traffic. Think you would be beter off at the SL. Just visit HDR for the action. Well that is my 2 cents worth of input. Sorry guys I know no trip reports for the 8 but they are boring noone would want to hear them. Lol

Lorenzo
12-27-05, 18:18
Thanks to all of you who responded to my request for help in deciding between Del Rey and Sportsmen's Lodge. After reading everyone's responses and reading through the San Jose 2005 reports, which contains a lot of valuable hotel information, I decided it was a no-brainer: Sportsmen's it is! So I've gone ahead and made my reservations there for a 5-day stay in April, and look forward to using it as a base for some happy mongering. I'll follow with a full report, of course.

Note: one of the posts in the San Jose 2005 thread was from a guy who left his wallet in his room at Sportsmen's, which he admitted was dumb, and when he got back it was gone. He was out $500 and his credit cards. So apparently security there leaves something to be desired, but I decided to stay there anyway, because I never leave valuables in the room. But be forewarned!

Lorenzo

Zepplin
12-31-05, 03:31
When I arrived on 10th of Dec. Gran Via was booked so I ended up at the Morazan. Festival of lights brought alot of ticos in to San Jose that weekend. Outside of breakfast (included) being a hassle to get Sun morning, the accommodations were good. No fees or hassles with the girls. Prices are posted on the wall by the front desk. It was late in the day when I got in so I was able to get a bit of a discount on a junior suite. Good lock box in the room for an extra 3 USD.

Next day I was able to get a room at my regular place. Hotel Gran Via. Compared to the Morazan or Presidente it is a bit run down but I like the no hassle environment there.

As far as a discount goes I always ask for one.

Anyway I scanned back a bit and saw something funny. Why the bother with a triple rate at Gran Via when a room is 30 to 40 USD a night??

A monger buddy of mine stayed at the Presidente and is a light sleeper. He said it was very noisy. I mentioned that because many reviews of the Gran Via also reference the noise. It is true if you get a room with a street side balcony, you will wake up with the rest of San Jose unless you are a very heavy sleeper. From what I´m told the interior rooms are quieter. I do fine with my balcony overlooking the street. I just try to get on the sixth or seventh floor. Some rooms have a small fridge others don´t.

If I ever get to stay more than 4 days the weekly apt rate looks like the way to go. I hope I get to try it one day.

Z

Capt Crunch
01-12-06, 21:04
i am planning a trip to central america in march-april of 2006. i already have my plane tickets and am now making hotel reservations. i will be in costa rica first week of april. to put this in perspective, i am an experienced monger, mostly brazil and thailand, i speak spanish, but i have never been to costa rica, or anywhere else in central america, before.

so here's my question: after reading every post in this thread, i have narrowed my hotel choices down to del rey or sportsmens, but i'm having a hard time choosing between them. i'm leaning toward del rey because it seems the most logical for a first time visitor. after all, the chicas are right there, so it's just a matter of bringing them up to the room, and they're available round the clock. on the other hand, some of the reports make it sound super grungy, and i am also concerned whether the noise from the casino will keep me awake, especially since i'll have to get up early for a flight on checkout day. sportsmens seems like a nicer place, but it appears to be some distance from the action. so i'd like to hear from some mongers who have stayed at both: what's best for a first time visitor, del rey or sportsmens? i hope to make my reservations within the next couple of days. thanks in advance for feedback.

lorenzolorenzo,

my first visit to san jose i stayed at the del rey hotel. the proximity to the bar and all of the action made it simple. just request a room on the 4th or 5th floor. it is pretty noisy down in the casino. i enjoyed being able to take in all of the action of the blue marlin bar and then get a short break from it. the del rey will charge you a $10 guest fee for each girl you check in. if you check in the same girl within the same day, there are no additional charges. also if you are a heavy drinker it might me wise to stay at the del rey. the girls get excited when you tell them that you are staying at the del rey. it makes things easy for them. i use it as a bargaining chip when we are discussing prices. do not pay $100(no cien! ). the average price is $30-$80. i only pay $80 if i am getting more then one hour (multiple [CodeWord115] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord115)), pictures, massage, and the girl is a 7-8. additionally, do not pay up front. i have made that mistake in the past and the performance was lackluster. tell them downstairs what the ground rules will be. do not hesitate to politely decline. there are so many women in the bar and the competition is fierce. if they get upstairs and ask for money upfront, tell them the party is over and you are only out $10. these girls need to know that they are working for something. i discuss four prices downstairs: average sex-$40, good sex-$50, great sex-$60, and very great sex (pictures, massage, videotoe nail clipping, bubble bath) -$80 + trinkets from the dollar store in the states. if they do not agree to my ground rules downstairs there will be no party! each girl has the oppourtunity to earn her money. the average costa rican monthly wages is $400-$500/monthly. $40 an hour is more then enough. remember--no cien!

capt crunch

Underpar
01-14-06, 02:09
Daj, this is one of thosw post that makes the most sense and that everyone should read. The ground rules are essencial, but you also understand the market there.

I agree w you 100%. Pura Vida!

Capt Crunch
01-15-06, 01:12
Daj, this is one of thosw post that makes the most sense and that everyone should read. The ground rules are essencial, but you also understand the market there.

I agree w you 100%. Pura Vida!I appreciate the feedback. I just want to give guys good information that might make their trip more enjoyable. I forgot to mention that the girls seem to accept less money if you pay them in Colones. Get familiar with the currency conversion! I will post in the 2006 Report Thread.

Capt Crunch

Love Seeker
01-15-06, 16:15
I am considering a trip to Costa Rica in May. I have been making trips to the Dominican Republic and Blackbeards. I have my forth trip already booked in March for a week.

I am thinking of trying somewhere new.

It seems to me that the Del Ray and Sportman would both be good choices from reading the reports. Del Ray I found this web site http://www.1-costaricalink.com/hotels_san_jose_costa_rica/hotel_del_rey_costa_rica/hotel_amenities_eng.htm

Does the Sportman have a web site?

Coquí
01-15-06, 17:37
Here is their website www.sportsmenscr.com

Happy huntings.......

Prolijo
01-15-06, 18:31
My first visit to San Jose I stayed at the Del Rey Hotel.Just curious and to put your hotel recommendation in perspective, you said you stayed at the HDR during your FIRST trip. Have you stayed anywhere ELSE (such as the SL) and how would it compare? And, if you liked the HDR so much, why didn't you stay there on any follow-up visits?

I would also have to agree with you and underpar though regarding your pricing guidelines for BM girls.

BTW, loveseeker, the correct direct website for the HDR is at www.delreyhotel.com. Costaricalink is a good general site but it doesn't always have the most up to date info and booking through them introduces a middleman that can increase the chances of mix-ups. When you go to the DR site be sure to check out the BM live web-cam (if they have it working).

Capt Crunch
01-15-06, 20:22
Just curious and to put your hotel recommendation in perspective, you said you stayed at the HDR during your FIRST trip. Have you stayed anywhere ELSE (such as the SL) and how would it compare? And, if you liked the HDR so much, why didn't you stay there on any follow-up visits?

I would also have to agree with you and underpar though regarding your pricing guidelines for BM girls.

BTW, loveseeker, the correct direct website for the HDR is at www.delreyhotel.com. Costaricalink is a good general site but it doesn't always have the most up to date info and booking through them introduces a middleman that can increase the chances of mix-ups. When you go to the DR site be sure to check out the BM live web-cam (if they have it working).Thanks Chase Star!

I stayed at the Del Rey on several trips to Costa Rica. When the Del Rey was booked up I have stayed at the Presidente and Sportman's Lodge. Both hotels are comparable to the Del Rey, but in my humble opinion a newbie who plans on drinking an excessive amount of alcohol would be safe to play it safe by staying at the Del Rey. The Presidente is not that far from the Del Rey and I usually enjoy dining in their cafe/restaurant. The view above the street is great for people watching. I have a buddy who is a high level businessman and he will not stay at the Del Rey because of it's reputation. He is accumstomed to 3-4 star accomendations and has stayed at the Coribici,Presidente,and Mariott. The Coribici and the Mariott have a Business Center. Both hotels are away from the Gringo Gulch. Some people prefer to stay away from the action. I have stayed in the gulch and also away at the Coribici and Mariott. It all depends on how i feel at that particular time. If you are a first timer I would suggest staying in the gulch to soak up the atmosphere. Additionally, the Sportman's has recently added 10 rooms. I heard there is a 2 bedroom penthouse that goes for $250/nightly. Does anyone have info on these new rooms? I have stayed all over Costa Rica and i will give additional information on mongering,women,and hotels in the future.

I hope this information is benificial to someone who can use it.

Thanks!

Love Seeker
01-15-06, 20:51
Thanks Coqui and Chase Star for your responses to my post. The Sportsman web site is most informative Coqui.

I don’t want to tell Jackson how to run this site. I enjoy this site very much. I find it very informative and helpful.

But I believe it would be most useful to have a sticky with the most important web sites for mongers in each of the locations. The web sites could be posted under categories, 1) Hotels with girls on location 2) Monger Friendly Hotels, but girls not in residence 3) Massage Parlors 4) Bars with girls 5)Best Restaurants

If all of the most useful web sites were in one sticky post and updated every 3 months I think it would be most convenient. What do some of my fellow mongers think?

Jerr Ttt
02-13-06, 20:39
I have just read through the reports and I am now more confused than ever. I did not know that the Del Rey charged a $10 fee for each guest you brought to the room. This seems odd because 1) it is the reputation of the girls that drive most people to stay there, and 2) as I recall from my one and only visit to CR, you could rent a room for $5-8 dollars for an hour around the corner.

When I stayed there last time, I stayed at the Corobici. It was an upscale hotel about a mile or two from Del Rey. I brought 2 guests back. The first time was during the day and the chica walked right past the reception desk. We got a few looks but I had no idea about that it was because I hadn't registered her. The second time was a different chica and was at night. That is when I found out about the fee. I forgot how much it was, but it was steep. I did not want to argue, I just wanted to f##k.

By the way, INHO, The Del Rey was nice during the day. Quite a few chicas and not to agressive. When I returned at night, the place was packed, no place to sit, way to many girls and the ones that approached, wouldn't take no for an answer.

I am planning on going back again this summer, and after reading the posts it seems like the Sportsman is the best bet. Unfortunately, when I tried to reserve a room for May-June it is all booked up.

What I am looking for is a quiet hotel, near the action but far enough away from all the noise. In addition to mongering I plan to do a few day trips.

When I went to CR last year, I stayed for 14 days. 10 of which were with a tour group. On the tour we stayed in Fortuna and Jaco overnight. I did not see any action at these places. Was this because it was early? I stayed up till midnight or so. But even the Monkey bar and Beattle bar in Jaco were dead.

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

Ace00
02-16-06, 16:56
Jerr Ttt,
Here is my take on the hotels other than the Del Rey and Presidente which you know about.

The Hotel Gran Via is three blocks from the action and is a bit noisy and older. It is cheaper but has little amenities. No guest fee. OK for an emergency.
The Sportsman Lodge is priced in-between the Del Rey and Presidente, but is hard to get to and from. It is a dangerous walk at night and taxi must be called to pick you up. It has an open air interior under a roof which I do not like. Bar but minimum restaurant. Friendly staff and some guys love it. Not air-conditioned. Multiple guests permitted.
The Hotel Europa is cheaper and has a minimal restaurant and is in a bad no walk at night area. Guest fee negotiable. Multiple guests permitted.
Hotel Morazon is cheaper, and very undependable for keeping reservations. Use in emergency only. No restaurant. Good location.
Hotel Castillo is cheaper and guest friendly but is in a no walk at night area.
Hotel Balmoral is more expensive and has a $20 guest fee. Emergency use only. Good location.
Holiday Inn is nice and expensive and has a $20 guest fee.
Sleep Inn is nice and expensive ($100) and has a $25 guest fee.
Some other hotels in area prohibit any guests. All except for Sportsman Lodge and Europa prohibit multiple guests at same time.


You made a classic mistake of staying in a far away hotel which really does not like guests. Most other hotels in the central area do not permit guests such as the Hotel Santo Tomas, Hemmingway, Hotel Costa Rica and other little charming places.

Consider the Castillo.

Prolijo
02-18-06, 00:43
That's not a bad take, Ace, but I have a slightly different one.

First of all, unless, I was planning to do most of my mongering on-site at MP's and stripclubs, I'd rule out all of the hotels that charge $20 or more for chica fees which includes most of the more upscale ones like the Corobici but even more so for midgrade ones like the Balmoral. It goes beyond the price. They clearly don't want our business or at least don't want to encourage it. The Sleep Inn management definitely doesn't want it and if the gerencia had her way there wouldn't even be any action anywhere nearby in the Gulch. And who needs disapproving looks of fat gringa eco-tourists that they do cater to? Why not just go some place where you will feel more welcome?

Secondly, while the Sportsmen's Lodge may not be be perfect, I think you were overly harsh. Let's run down your list of comments.

Hard to get to? Perhaps, but it really all depends. For one thing, it all depends on where you want to get to or from. The SL is just a short walk to the NF and not much further to ZB (or down to the BM for that matter). Sure, if you want to be right near the "ground zero" of the HDR/BM/KL then places like Morazon, Pres, Balmoral, Sleep Inn etc. are certainly much closer, but it sounds like this guy is graduating to the view that the BM is not necessarily the best place to go, at least at night when you say the walk to the SL is more dangerous. Besides, anywhere else you'd probably be going would require taking a cab at night anyway.

As for "dangerous walk at night", that also depends. Its all relative. I'd definitely advise against it if you were bombed or weren't streetwise. But the larger argument for taking a cab is that it is a little far to escort a chica in high heels and the cabfare only costs a buck anyway. Personally, I've walked from the BM to that area, which also includes the Castillo, many times after dark with nary an incident. IMHO, the most dangerous part of the walk is stepping out the door of the BM, where you are forced to pass in close proximity to street riffraff (yet another reason not to stay at the HDR). IMO being a little more out of the way is actually a big plus for the Sportsmen's and it is actually in probably a much safer neighborhood overall than the Gulch.

Taxi must be called to pick you up? Again maybe but maybe not. It is on a side street that means you might need to have the doorman call you a cab, but cabs are so plentiful that it is usually no more than a couple of minutes wait and if that is still too long for you you can always walk the 50 meters down to the corner where cabs pass by fairly frequently.

Bar but minimum restaurant? Who says you have to or even should eat at the same hotel you stay at. The HDR has a restaurant and I definitely wouldn't recommend that. The SL doesn't need a restaurant as there are several REALLY good restaurants within easy walking distance including the Cafe Mundo, La Palma, JR's Ribs, The Atomic Cafe and others.

No A/C? You forgot to mention it doesn't have a pool either. A/C is not really necessary in SJ.

Enough on the SL. I think you also gave the Morazon an unfairly short shrift. This talk of the reservations there being undependable is a sort of urban legend that may have had some basis at one time but just keeps getting passed around. Have you or anyone here made a reservation there recently that wasn't honored or is this all "a friend of a friend had it happen to them" or "I heard it somewhere else" type of thing. I used to stay there in its heyday of the infamous "Soprano" era when it was often fully booked and never had a problem with my reservation. Today, it has lost the favor of many of the regular mongers who used to make it popular, so being booked up is far less often a problem. Certainly not during the off-season of the summer when this guy plans to visit and at $35-39/nt it is much cheaper than either the Pres or the SL even if you are sometimes forced to pay a $3 chica fee (more like guest fee negotiable here too). BTW, it does allow multiple guests and it does serve food although its restaurant is not recommended with so many other better places so close by.

Tasty1
02-18-06, 21:44
Located in walking distance to Del Rey (in daytime) and a block or two to ZB and NF. Mostly occupied by regular people and not mongers. 1-2 bucks taxi ride to BM. Many times they do cahrge $10 guest fee, depending on the mood of reception guy or gal. Nice jacuzzi and exercise room, good bar-restaurant with live music in evening. Decent rooms. Quiet area. Would recommend it.

Member #2041
02-19-06, 05:15
In addition to the points that Chase makes, the most important point is this: Sportsmen's is owned by a Gringo former monger, who understands exactly what we are looking for, and he and his General Manager will go the extra mile to provide fantastic service, with a complete comprehension of our needs, and how to deliver on them. For example, their bar is also frequented by ladies, who have a reputation for service and integrity, and if they were ever to rip off one of the Sportsmen's customers, they will never be allowed to set foot in the place again - This, of course, does wonders for the quality of service that is provided.

Jerr Ttt
02-19-06, 20:41
Thanks Tasty1,

As I stated earlier. The Sportsman sounds like the best, but it is booked. I have been looking around and think I will choose the Clarion. Any Idea on where to find the cheapest rates? travelocity, expedia, AAA etc.

Ace00
02-22-06, 16:45
I completely agree with your points on hotels, Chase Star. Well said.

I like A/C because it drowns out street sounds at night. Agreed you do not really need to cool down with rare exceptions.

Prolijo
02-25-06, 00:25
Thanks Tasty1,

As I stated earlier. The Sportsman sounds like the best, but it is booked. I have been looking around and think I will choose the Clarion. Any Idea on where to find the cheapest rates? travelocity, expedia, AAA etc.

DO NOT BOOK THE AMON CLARION THROUGH TRAVELOCITY, EXPEDIA OR EVEN THE CLARION WEBSITE. The best rates can be found by booking throught their casino for gambler's rates. That website is at www.casino-paradiso.com. Email or call and ask for Nixon. Those rates will run $75 per night for their standard room but INCLUDE TAXES. For comparison, Travelocity and the ChoiceHotel website each charge $90. The Del Rey is $59/nt and may seem a lot cheaper but after you add nearly $10 in taxes and the chica fees that you know you'll have to pay it will cost more than the Amon and is no where near as nice.

GooLapper
02-25-06, 15:15
Chasestar. That bit of finesse may well work at all the Hotels associated with Casinos. You have probably saved the average monger who employs this technique enough cashola for a free piece of ASS !!!! Maybe even a piece of Ass & a sloppy slurpy BJ !


DO NOT BOOK THE AMON CLARION THROUGH TRAVELOCITY, EXPEDIA OR EVEN THE CLARION WEBSITE. The best rates can be found by booking throught their casino for gambler's rates. That website is at www.casino-paradiso.com. Email or call and ask for Nixon. Those rates will run $75 per night for their standard room but INCLUDE TAXES. For comparison, Travelocity and the ChoiceHotel website each charge $90. The Del Rey is $59/nt and may seem a lot cheaper but after you add nearly $10 in taxes and the chica fees that you know you'll have to pay it will cost more than the Amon and is no where near as nice.

Tasty1
02-27-06, 04:59
Chase Star:

You do not have to go through Casino to get good rates. I got same good rate by going thru Clarion website and making sure I was asking for AAA, senior, corporate rate and so on. They don't care how you got the rate. Breakfast is included . I paid $95 for junior suite.

One peculiar thing, when you check out they give you copies of all passports they copied when you are bringing chicas in. It made a great souvenier for me to remember. Their true name and date of birth and nationality etc. It was interesting to see their true age etc. I would highly recommend Clarion. Just be discreet and they may not always charge chica fees. Their jacuzzis was great and many times I fucked a chica in the warm waters since no one else was there. Their Cafe has some good food and live music 8-11PM on most nights. Any questions, PM me.

Jerr Ttt
03-01-06, 02:39
I booked the Hotel from the Continental Airlines website. I got it for $70 a night. Don't know if this included taxes or not. What is the differences between a standard room, a junior suite and etc? just wondering if the upgrade is worth it.

Sun Devil
03-09-06, 00:35
For those interested, Clarion Amon Plaza, through Nixon Netto, the manager at the casino, is offering a March and April special.

One can get a room for $60 a night, including taxes, plus no chica fee. You will have to mention to the hotel personnel at the front desk that you have booked the hotel through Nixon in order to get the no chica fee discount.

Texasrob2005
03-22-06, 03:54
I am planning my first trip and was not sure if you book ahead or just show up with your bags. Sorry for the basic question but I want to make sure I know what to do once I get there.

NastyBoy
03-25-06, 02:40
... not sure if you book ahead or just show up with your bags.
Definately advance reservations.

MrVee
03-29-06, 04:54
I will be staying there April 17-20. There seem to be very few (rare, even) mentions of the Marriott in the forum. My guess is that it is either (1) not located close to any action, (2) higher-priced than most mongers can or are willing to pay, (3) not girl-friendly. Or some combination of all 3. However, I am staying there regardless and I will post a report in just a couple of weeks. Cheers, everyone. (feel free to PM me if you are going to be down there and want to meet up for some drinks, scouting missions, etc.)

Stevewxly
04-30-06, 18:10
I'm getting ready for another trip to CR in late May.

I just read most of the hotel information on this forum for hotels in San Jose.

Way down on page 5-6, I see someone is looking for the name of the small hotel which is on the Paseo Colon pretty much directly across the street from the Kentucky Fried Chicken (KFC). The name of that hotel is the Ritmo del Caribbe. Their rooms run from as cheap as $ 14. 00 a night up to about $25. 00 a night. See Jeffery - the desk clerk there, and ask for a special price. He may put you into one of the better rooms for about $ 15. 00 per night-if one is available. You also get a complimentary breakfast here too.

There are a couple of good MP's in this area. Within a couple of blocks. Believe the Osasis MP used to be open - directly across from the famous Machu Pichu restaurant. 10, 000 c per 1 hour session with a chica. But last time I was there in Nov. - it was closed. There is another MP down about 1 1/2 blocks around the corner from M. Pichu. Directly across the street from the "Super Bingo" place. It is unmarked, but pretty good with a good selection of chicas (7-10) and it is 12, 000 c. Per hour for full service.

This MP is about 2 1/2 blocks walking distance from the hotel Ritmo del Caribbe.

Also I have stayed around San Jose in quite a few of the hotels. DR, Sportsman, Santo Thomas, Hemmingway's, Castillio. To mention a few.

The Castillo Hotel was my personal favorite in the moderately priced hotels.
It's owned and run by Americans, chica friendly-no extra fees, centrally located - around the corner from the Sportsman Lodge - and about 6 blocks from the Del Rey, - this hotel is very clean, private, and runs about $ 40. 00/nite-low season; to about $ 50-55. 00/nite-high season. They have 'in-house massesses (sp) who hang out in the lobby (when not busy). These gals are independents who know the desk clerks, and stop by for some business on most days and early evenings. In case one of the hotel guests needs to get a massage in his room. A plain massage will run you about $ 20. 00. And with full service 'sexo - it will cost you about $ 30. 00 or perhaps a bit more depending upon the girl.

Cheap hotel- top on my list of really cheap but exceptable hotels is the Nuevo Johnson Hotel - on 8th Street, between Central and 2nd Avenue. 1 block from the Centro Mercado. Central market.

Room fee is $ 10. 00. Or about 5. 000 c per night for a clean, private double room, with hot water shower/bath- towels, color TV, daily maid service, - no A/C though. So if it's really hot you might do better elsewhere where they have air conditioned rooms.

Hotel Johnson is chica friendly, but depending who is on the front desk when you arrive with your 'chica, they may charge you a small fee of 2, 000-3, 000 c for the girl. ($ 4-5. 00) If one of the younger desk clerks (chico's) is there he may not charge you to bring up your girl. If he does not charge extra for a chica fee. Then perhaps flip him a small propena of say 1, 000 c and you will satisfy him.

This hotel is about a 700-800 colone taxi ride (about 1 1/2 miles from the Del Rey) from the gulch.

I used to stay at the much nicer and more expensive hotels, but quickly learned that one can stay a lot longer and partake in more chicas when one saves a few bucks on his accomadations. For a hotel - All I need do is sleep there, take a shower, and use it as a place to bring gals that I have picked up elsewhere.

R Brandon
05-03-06, 01:25
Thanks for the Paseo Colon hotel lead. I assume the place is girl friendly.Can you confirm. I know of about 7 MP's within a 10 minute walk form there some open as late as 9PM with the best combination of quality and value to be found among San Jose providers. Being a budget hobbyist I may give it a try.rbc100

Stevewxly
05-03-06, 04:39
Hotel Ritmo del Caribbe is chica friendly. Never had any problems before, and there were no extra chica fees, the last time I was there in March '06.

Least expensive room is $ 14. 00 a night. Low season. Better rooms are about $ 20-25. 00 a night. Also includes complimentary breakfast too.

It's right on the Paseo Colon (Avenue) about 75 -100 yards across from the KFC -Kentucky Fried Chica.

There are a couple of good MP's within walking distance (5-6 blocks) too.

Steve

Luvr Tom
05-06-06, 04:27
I've been in SJ the past week, staying at the "Inca Real" on Av. 11 a block from the Clarion. $45/night for cash, otherwise you pay the 17% hotel tax too. Also the Hotel Brittania is across the street. I didn't monger at Inca, but I did see some of the action leaving one night when I was on the internet computer in the lobby around midnight, about 3 departures in 1/2 hour.

The Inca/Clarion neighborhood's relatively safe, couple blocks radius anyways. One night around 10PM I decided to walk the 6-7 blocks towards the Del Rey area, and about 2 blocks from Inca I passed 4 homo TVs on the opposite side of the street, loitering on the corner. I'm 38, 6-3 but lanky at about 175lbs, but still much bigger than most natives, not a "pushover" target. So I'm coming up the block towards their intersection, and they begin with the cat calls. I ignore them, at one point shaking my head negatively. As I get closer 2 of them start crossing the street making a collission course towards me, babbling some oh baby shit. This block was dead, just us, but well lit. These were some homely TVs and totally unconvincing. As they were about 15 feet away I said fuck off, but didn't break my brisk stride. They were walking single file, not side by side. The more aggressive one leading and doing most of the babbling feigned deafness to my message and continued his collision course with me. As he got closer, arms reach, I said sharply "por favor, POR FAVOR!" Still playing dumb, he came up beside me, both of us walking, and began to put arms around me. All my goodies were in my front pockets, but his intent to pickpocket whatever he could was clear. I immediately whipped my left arm (his side) up aggressively, forcibly throwing his arms off me and catching his nose with my elbow on the way up over my head. He stopped but I never stopped walking. He feigned righteous indignation at "my aggressiveness" and hit my the back of my shoulder with his purse. Didn't hurt in the least and I just kept walking.. happy not to escalate, as they'd be idiots not to be armed in some way given their brazen & aggressive manwhoring & ladrón-ing game. I've since had vigillante afterthoughts, such as, buy some pepper spray, and in a drive by in a well bribed taxi, round the corner they hang out at, maybe even stop to feign interest and lure them closer, and hose down the 4 of them. They're scum, plain and simple, so I'd feel I did a good deed for everyone who's not them.

That story was a big digression, but it felt good to tell. Any advice on how you'd handle such aggressive cons? (besides take a taxi at all times..). It's also a word to the wise as to how aggressive the criminal scum element can be in San Jose. The poor can also be very aggressive; numerous times in the past week I've been approached by panhandlers while walking, and some don't give up with a "no, lo siento" and then being ignored. They've followed me for most of a block begging, I guess just hoping I'll reward them for persistence and/or bribe them to just leave me alone. Waaay higher aggressive scum/con/poor factor here in SJ than I saw in Panama City--- and the razor wire you see everywhere here upon arrival is your first tip off. I've adapted somewhat, and at this point, at the first sign of high aggressiveness, I glare at them and bark "fuck off" nice and loud, fists clenched, so they have no illusions about their prospects with me. I didn't get this aggressive with the homo pickpocket gang until he laid a finger on me, but in hindsight, I should have been yelling with clenched fists as they were on their collision course with me. Wake the neighbors, make a scene to avoid a bigger scene, prompt the neighbors to complain to the PD about the nuisance the loitering TV ladróns are causing. I think that would have diffused it before any physical contact was made.

So back on track. I decided to move to the Sportsman's Lodge this morning, for some worry free mongering. Taxi driver from Inca Real gave me a big pitch about how you shouldn't leave there at night, it's that dangerous. Not leave sin taxi, that is.. which I figured was manageable. But I let him talk me into this hotel on Calle 20, Hotel Classic. $35/night, $10 guest charge. I checked in but offhand don't like it. Thing is, I couldn't find any contact info on Sportsman's, nothing in the phone book, so I didn't know if they even had space, I was just going to show up and hope. Does anyone have contact info for them? And while you're at it, Castillo sounds decent too... any contact info there?

A final unrelated question. What's the hotel's stake in getting the chica's passport info upon check in here in SJ? Is there some sort of CYA they're doing? Or is it "for your protection" or what? I'm really a beginning monger (one of those guy's who's paid the chica up front when asked... know better now after hanging out here!), and the few times I got a chica in Panama, no one was bothered by the front desk.

Luvr Tom
05-06-06, 04:42
Okay, WRT my last post, I found the S. Lodge website,

http://crtimes.com/hotels/sportsmenslodge/index.html

BUT NO F'n PHONE NUMBER!

Just web-form contact/reservation page. I wanna move there tomorrow (Sat) around noon, so that won't work. Why no damn phone! ?

Check out what they say about their bar:

Well fuggedaboudit, I don't know if it's the 'puter I'm on or what, but I can't copy/paste into this message field. I typed the url above manually for y'all, you'll need to go to the site to read about the bar!

Travel Addict
05-06-06, 07:06
SPORTSMENS LODGE se encuentra a 200 metros oeste de la rampa del hospital Calderon Guardia y 25 sur, calle 13 entre Av.9 y Av.11 casa 949 en barrio Otyoa, San Jose. LOCAL PHONE: 506-221-2533

Stevewxly
05-07-06, 16:35
Update:

There were some questions about this hotel- here is an update:

Not sure if they have lockboxes or not. I stayed in one of the very small rooms with bunk beds. It did not have a lockbox.

I think they do lock the front door probably after midnight, but there is a desk clerk or night watchman on duty all night to let you in.

Here is the info for the hotel:

Location - Paseo Colon / Calle 32 diagonal a Kentucky Fried Chicken (across street)

There are several good MP's within walking distance of this hotel. It is a very nice, clean....business part of town. All buses to airport and downtown (like to the Del Rey...about 13-14 blocks) are on the curb....in front of hotel. Famous Machu Pichu restaurant is one block from this hotel. Oasis MP's (real good MP) used to be across the street from the M. Pichu restaurant, but was closed on my last visit about 3 months ago.

Tel/Fax (506) 256-1636

Email: hotel@ritmo-del-caribe.com

Website: http://www.hostelz.com/hotel/33988-Hotel-Ritmo-del-Caribe

Psychman
05-14-06, 04:02
I know of several instances where Chicas were banned from hotels after stealing from guests; so keeping having their infomration is to present the monger. I know guys who came back to the Presidente to find out a chica was banned. One monger let a girl go after this, only to find out later that she has a history of dangerous behavior. As you mentioned, always take a cab at night. I am a muscular and powerful looking 215 pounds, and can take care of myself, and NEVER walk alone at night in San Jose. There has been way to many incidents of late- muggings, robberies. Figure it this way: you take a cab four times a night, an average of a buck and change, and you are at six dollars. That is just over 40bucks for a week long mongering trip; nothing.

Rabo Verde
05-14-06, 06:56
Sportsmens website is back up
www.sportsmenscr.com
Highly recommended

Prolijo
05-23-06, 13:40
Hey, I somehow missed all the new posts on this thread for the last few weeks. Don't know how other than it shows up so far down in the list of threads. They got too many "sticky" threads fixed at the top. Perhaps Jackson should move the Classfied thread down to the bottom. And the new Reports of Distinction thread hasn't exactly been a raving success either and perhaps should be unfixed or done away with altogether.

Back on the subject of hotels and topics raised or not raised here recently. I'm totally surprised there has been absolutely no mention of the new $25 chica fee at the Clarion Amon. With all the fuss that was made over the new dress policy at the Presidente, one would have thought more guys would be commenting about the new and outrageous fees at the Amon. Nothing sends a message of "you're not wanted" than such ridiculous fees not even the much ballyhooed Presidente dress code, which got much more discussion.

QUESTION: Is this part of some growing trend around the Gulch (1st the Sleep Inn, then the Prez and now this) where more hotels are coming to the conclusion they don't need our business or, worse, don't want our business due to a percieved negative impact on their business with more mainstream tourists OR is this just part of some sort of growing crackdown at US-based hotel chains due to complaints from outraged gringa guests to Corp HQ? In the case of the Sleep Inn, the ideology that prostitution should be stamped out of not just the hotel but out of the entire Gulch was already deeply ingrained by the hotel's female manager, but maintaining the Sleep Inn's clean brand image I'm sure also played a part. So what is going on at the CLARION Amon which is also part of the Choice Hotel Group?

Whatever the reason for these recent events, one lesson is clear, to me at least, and we shouldn't walk around CR or even the Gulch like the place is there to serve us and us alone. I know guys who have the attitude, when they're with a young chica and are confronted by the disapproving stare of some fat Gringa, of "fuck you" and "in your face, you fat cow". These guys don't have a clue about what is meant by the term "Walk of shame". For them it is someone else's problem, and in a way it is, but it is also in a way mostly ours. The world in general doesn't approve of what we do. IMHO, it is best that we keep as low a profile as possible when mingling with non-mongers, which includes MOST hotels and anywhere out on the street. This means not being loud and obnoxious when bringing a chica back to our hotel particularly late at night (considerate behavior towards our fellow guests in any case) or not bringing blatant putas through a hotel's public areas at times when other guests can see. Why ask for trouble or give hotels any excuse to tighten their chica policies more then they already have.

On the subject of why check the cedula or charge fees. Does it really matter why they do it? Whether it is just to CYA as someone suggested or to make extra money off of us in the case of chica fees doesn't really matter. The check-in also serves to protect us as much as anything else. The Prez bans chicas that have caused the hotel or its guests trouble in the past or otherwise violated one of their rules, in most cases these are chicas you want to avoid or at least be warned about. At other hotels they don't maintain any sort of database, but the cedula check still serves to make sure the girl is of legal age and gives you some recourse if the girl does wind up ripping you off. Even better are the hotels that hold on to the cedula while you're with her up in your room and only release it when you either come down with her or phone you to check if everything is ok if she comes down alone.

I've read reports of guys sneaking in girls to get around high chica fees at places like the Holiday Inn and other places. Don't do it. First of all, if it is noticed it only adds to the fuel for tightening their policies further. Secondly, if the fee is so high that you need to go to such lengths to avoid it, it is often as much because they don't really want that type of activity around their hotel as it is to make extra money. And you really shouldn't be staying at a place that doesn't want you anyway, at least not if you plan to do any mongering on-site.

Finally, on the subject of walking around the Amon neighborhood after dark. Things are getting worse all over all the time. So I wouldn't base future actions on what WAS safe before. Its gotten to the point that taking a cab after dark is well advised in all cases, even the 1 block walk from the HDR to the Prez that never leaves the Gulch. In fact, I have always felt the most threatening area was right outside the HDR. If not for immediate attacks then at least for being "marked" to be hit as soon as you get away from the crowd. Despite all the hullaballoo about Morazon Park, I've always walked briskly through and kept my distance from others and never had a problem other than having some riffraff call out to me or start to approach. I've walked both towards the bus stop for Calle Blanco and up towards the Don Carlos/Hemingway/SL part of Amon and while I can readily believe what happened to Luvr Tom in that area north of the HI, I've never had the problem with the TV's that hang out between the yellow metal building and the Park Espana. They always completely ignore me as I walk briskly past giving them a wide berth. But like I said before things can change.

Sun Devil
05-25-06, 16:24
The Clarion Amon Plaza chica fee of $25 has since been removed, as per Nixon, the British manager of the Casino Paradiso. I have just booked with him and will be staying there for two days after my Colombian trip. This is the hotel that I prefer to stay when in San Jose.

NastyBoy
05-25-06, 21:01
Oasis MP's (real good MP) used to be across the street from the M. Pichu restaurant, but was closed on my last visit about 3 months ago.
When did this happen?

NB

Patbutter
05-25-06, 21:26
When did this happen?

NBI was at Oasis 2-3 weeks ago. Still open with the usual selection of young hotties. No worries.

Prolijo
05-26-06, 06:23
The Clarion Amon Plaza chica fee of $25 has since been removed, as per Nixon, the British manager of the Casino Paradiso. I have just booked with him and will be staying there for two days after my Colombian trip. This is the hotel that I prefer to stay when in San Jose.That may well be, at least for now, but it remains to be seen whether it is gone for good. However my point was, whether they stuck with their chica fee or not, that the very fact that they raised it in the first place sends a serious message as to where some previously reliable hotels are trending.

Hopefully, a few mongers won't screw these places up for the rest of us through inconsiderate and indiscrete behavior they way they did at the Prez. We have to remember these are not pure mongering hotels and have a lot of non-monger guests which are also important to their success and who often don't like to be confronted with what they consider to be immoral behavior going on in the room next door. Coming back late and making lots of noise waking up guests who went to bed early so they could get up early the next day for their ecotour goes over just about as well with them as when they wake us up early with their noise after we've been out late the night before. And its already obvious enough what is going on when a fat older gringo brings back a sexily dressed young chica, without his putting on a public display of groping in the lobby in front of wives, husbands and their impressionable young children. Can't it wait until we get to the room and can't we at least try to be quiet and discreet as possible while passing through the lobby? Of course, I'm not addressing this to Sun Devil in particular. I'm sure he's already a sensible guy. But we've all seen the loud and obnoxious gringo jerks in SJ. Let's try to not let it be any of us.

And while we're at it, I'm sure Nixon wouldn't mind since we're getting the casino rate that we at least wager a little money in his casino. That's the whole point for him in offering the discount in the first place. If he can't make a little money off of us, he might not be so willing to go to bat for us the next time the hotel wants to make a move like this.

NastyBoy
05-29-06, 04:15
I was at Oasis 2-3 weeks ago. Still open with the usual selection of young hotties. No worries.
Thanks PB....can't wait for my next trip back...this is my favorite place in San Jose too. These airfares need to drop down some.

NB

Shamas
06-19-06, 04:00
Take a look at Apartotel La Sabana. It's very nice and the La Sabana neighborhood is safer than the gulch. Many very good resturants very close by and LS park is right across the street.

It's a short cab ride to the BM & KL

The ALaS is semiGF, they just ask you act civil and respectful as there are families staying there also.

Shamas O'Dognasty

Tuna Man
06-19-06, 16:06
I can second the recomendation of Apartotel la Sabana. Nice place and staff. Cabs can be called by front desk at any time. It is also nice and quiet.

Sigue
07-01-06, 21:29
Hey yall, Does anyone know whether the Ritmo del Caribe is chica-friendly? It's a small, b&b type place opposite the KFC on Paseo Colon.

Thanks,
Sigue

Stevewxly
07-02-06, 17:08
Yes this place (Hotel Ritmo d Caribe ) is Chica friendly. I have stayed there a couple of times, and there were no extra Chica fees.

Their cheapest room is only $ 14.00 a night, going up to about $25.00 a night for the better rooms.

It's only about 2-3 blocks to the Osasis Massage Parlor too, which is perhaps the 'best one of it's type in SJO".

Steve

Willy 1
07-16-06, 10:06
Okay, WRT my last post, I found the S. Lodge website,

http://crtimes.com/hotels/sportsmenslodge/index.html

BUT NO F'n PHONE NUMBER!

Just web-form contact/reservation page. I wanna move there tomorrow (Sat) around noon, so that won't work. Why no damn phone! ?

Check out what they say about their bar:

Well fuggedaboudit, I don't know if it's the 'puter I'm on or what, but I can't copy/paste into this message field. I typed the url above manually for y'all, you'll need to go to the site to read about the bar!

http://www.sportsmenscr.com/

ThunderPants
07-16-06, 16:08
The # is 506 221 2533

Willy 1
07-17-06, 05:37
The # is 506 221 2533




From the states call

1-800-291-2798

the 800 # is fairly new.

Capt Crunch
07-30-06, 01:00
Is there another hotel that has the same setup as the Hotel Del Rey in other Latin or Asian countries? Bar/Casino with lots of women.

Any suggestions for possible travel to Thailand,Ecuador,Phillipines,Colombia or Domenican Republic?

Thanks!

Capt Crunch

Martyb
08-09-06, 23:05
I’ll be coming down to San Jose this weekend. I am currently planning on staying at the Hampton Inn and Suites. It is a Business trip (I love my job!) so I am limited on my hotel choice. My question is: How close is this hotel to the San Jose action and does anyone know if it is a G.F. Hotel. If not, does anyone have any ideas for a nicer 4 star or better near the action. Any help is appreciated. Thanks in advance.

Prolijo
08-11-06, 06:23
I don't know how GF it is but you couldn't get much further from the SJ action. It is located near the airport in Alajuela which is about 20-30 minutes ($10-15 by cab) from SJ depending on traffic. If you're considering reputable US chain hotels, the Best Western Irazu would be better as it is over halfway towards the city and definitely chica friendly. It is still a decent drive from downtown, but at least is a little more doable. Being outside the city it might be more convenient for business purposes than going downtown depending on where you plan to be working. Many of the US companies are located in that area west of SJ. The Marriot is another US chain, a little more upscale from the BW, not sure of chica fees but located in a clean safe area (Escazu) near lots of restaurants

If you can swing it business wise, choosing a hotel downtown would be much better for mongering. There are several hotels mentioned on this board with clean reputations and only minutes from the Gulch. The Clarion Amon Plaza is one that is part of the Choice Hotel Group and is very chica friendly if you book it through the casino. There is also a Best Western Downtown that many people swear by. Its in a scummier neighborhood but there are lots of cheap MP's in the immediate vicinity. One US chain to avoid downtown is the Holiday Inn ($20 guest fee).

The Presidente is not a US chain but has a reputation as a family friendly hotel (or at least is trying to) even though many mongers stay there. Your Tico hosts may have their suspicions as to why you'd want to stay at a hotel in the heart of the Gulch, but your travel department back in the US probably won't have a clue. When staying in any non-monger hotel, even if it is chica friendly, consideration and proper decorum is usually called for. Don't come stumbling in loud and drunk with some tarted up chica and you'll probably be fine. The Presidente is presently trying to enforce a controversial dress code on its chica visitors and only allows one chica at a time but still doesn't charge any extra fee for bringing them back.

Noguera
08-11-06, 19:48
Chase

Why do you say to avoid the Holiday Inn? It has been totally remodeled inside, the prices are in that corporate business range of $125, and they do let you bring in girls if you register them at the desk and pay $25. I think it is an excellent choice for the business traveler whom wants a relaxing evening after he has pulled someone from the gulch.

Member #2041
08-11-06, 22:24
Chase

Why do you say to avoid the Holiday Inn? It has been totally remodeled inside, the prices are in that corporate business range of $125, and they do let you bring in girls if you register them at the desk and pay $25. I think it is an excellent choice for the business traveler whom wants a relaxing evening after he has pulled someone from the gulch.

Because a $25 added fee for a lady visitor is appalling, and those type of business practices ought to be resisted at all costs.

Johnny Drama
08-11-06, 23:22
My last stay at the Holiday Inn was last August for a few nights on my way to Tamarindo. I paid 75.00 per night for a double room, but was still asked to pay the 25 dollar lady fee at the front desk. It was not possible to sneak girls past as the guard stands right next to the elevators as you enter the lobby. The only upside to this hotel is its casino whichs offers real American Blackjack, not Rummy which is played in most, if not all the other casinos in town. I felt safe enough walking around the area during the daytime, but at night I would never leave without taking the cab as the park was full of cracked out drug dealers/users who would make offers to you as you entered your taxi. While I have no other hotel experience in the San Jose area, I'm sure there are better choices for 75 a night, especially at the rate of 125 which you were quoted.

Prolijo
08-12-06, 03:58
'nuff said, Noguera?

Devoman
08-12-06, 19:35
It was not possible to sneak girls past as the guard stands right next to the elevators as you enter the lobby. Why don't you just take your chica up to the Casino first, and then take the elevator down to your room?

Johnny Drama
08-12-06, 21:40
There is only 1 elevator that services the casino at night, and you cannot stop on other floors. You must descend to the lobby and switch elevators in front of the guard.

Devoman
08-12-06, 21:51
There is only 1 elevator that services the casino at night, and you cannot stop on other floors. You must descend to the lobby and switch elevators in front of the guard.I guess the Holiday Inn is smarter than I am!

Member #2964
08-13-06, 01:12
Guys. Are you lazy or just too drunk on the pussy to think stright. Take the elevator to tha casino and then walk down the stairs to your floor.

Better yet; do your homework and stay at a hotel that does not put you through such childish behaviour / actions. Forgeta bot Holiday (rip-off) Inn.
go Tico guys and have the time of your lifes.

Prolijo
08-13-06, 01:51
Having to check in your chica guest can have its advantages. First of all, it adds an extra level of protection having a second set of trained eyes inspecting her ID. If it turns out her ID is fake and it passed their muster that might not save you completely from legal troubles but being able to point the finger at someone else and being able to say he thought she was legal too couldn't hurt. Of course, if the whole point is that you know she's illegal and you're trying to sneak her past check-in because of that, I can't help you. The second advantage is that it gives you a little more recourse if something goes wrong. What if she slips you a mickey (it's been known to happen) and tries to sneak out after robbing you or what if you're going for a TLN and she just tries to skip out with your cash after you fall asleep? The fact that she won't get back her ID, which is safely being held by the front desk, until you say its okay or, if they don't physically hold on to her ID, the fact that they have her number, gives you more protection. After a session I'll usually at least escort her down to the lobby if not even return with them to BM, but there have been times late at night when I've just wanted to hit the sack afterwards and I've just sent them packing rather than have to get redressed. In those cases where I received a confirmation inquiry call from the front desk making sure every thing was alright and she could be let through, I've appreciated knowing that someone else was looking out for me. Or what if there is some other sort of dispute back at the room and she causes a a ruckus? Most hotels are going to side with their guests in any event and she's adios, but if you snuck her in circumventing their policies how far are they going to back you up? At places where there is no chica fee, like the Prez, the small inconvenience of taking the extra 60 seconds to check in is a small price to pay for that added protection. Even if there are other restrictions like only being able to bring one chica back (which I rarely ever want to exceed anyway) or dress codes or even modest chica fees like they have at some other places, that is still not that huge a tradeoff. Its only when the chica fee gets to such ridiculous levels like they are at the HI, that you should even seriously consider trying to sneak around it, but then you still need to remember what you might be giving up.

Devoman
08-13-06, 04:02
Take the elevator to tha casino and then walk down the stairs to your floor.Yeah, the chicas won't mind walking down 15 floors in their high heels.

Travalot
09-04-06, 22:04
Does anyone know how chica friendly this place is? I have to stay there. Is it nice? Can you find chicas on the property? How far is it from Jaco and the Beatle Bar?

Tbuss
09-07-06, 02:05
Hi All,

Just wanted to let the people on this board know about a relatively new lodging alternative in San Jose. It's called Casa Vino. I am the owner/operator. We've been running a special for members from CRT so I figured I'd extend the same special to the folks over here.

Casa Vino is set up specifically for mongers, we are 2 1/2 blocks north of the Del Rey, steps away from Zona Blue and New Fantasy and next door to Casino Paradiso. It's a private party house that features 2 bedrooms(with separate bathrooms) a full kitchen, a living room, a balcony, a wet bar, a work station, a wall size projection TV, DVD and CD players, digital safes and a steam room. We also have a full poker set up for any guests that want to play or run a tournament and a set of golf clubs is available at no extra charge.

Pictures and more info is available at www.casavinocr.com . The house may be rented whole with 2 friends or couples sharing it or the may be divided up and rented independently where each guest will have a seperate entrance. If anyone is interested in more info or on checking on availability please e-mail off the above website. Mention ISG to receive the following discounted pricing. Full House(Both rooms)- $150, Executive Suite- $110, Standard Room- $40.

Best Regards,

Tony

Regulr Travlr
09-07-06, 03:51
The place itself is very nice. All the Marriott resort standards in a beautiful setting. I was just here in mid August. I was with a chica on a brief holiday. We did venture over to Jaco one day and saw the bars. It is about aq 10 - 15 minute taxi ride.

As far as I could tell there are no chicas working on the property. It would not be very profitable as most of the clientele are families or couples. However, it would be no problem to bring a chica back without any fee or ID check. The set up and location of the drop off, elevators and front desk make it very chica friendly.

It is not a party place by any means. I had someone to keep me company and we made our own fun at the pool bar. But if you are on your own you will definitely want to head over to Jaco for enterntainment.

Have a good time.

Travalot
09-07-06, 04:02
Looks great. Probably try to bring a chica from S.J.

Staying at sportmen- any action there? How do I go about getting someone to go to the beach for a few days.

Khun Larry
09-11-06, 06:41
Is there another hotel that has the same setup as the Hotel Del Rey in other Latin or Asian countries? Bar/Casino with lots of women.

Any suggestions for possible travel to Thailand,Ecuador,Phillipines,Colombia or Domenican Republic?

Thanks!

Capt CrunchWell Capt, There are places like the Del Rey, less the casino, on just about every corner in Bangkok and Pattaya, Thailand. PI has many places as well. Both have many more places than San Jose.

Check the other forums and give a call to your travel agent for a booking.

Prolijo
09-12-06, 01:19
The places in Thailand tend to be a little smaller on an individual basis, but there are shitloads, and I mean shitloads, more of them, not just on every corner but lined up one right next to the other in certain areas. I haven't been to PI or DR but I've also been to the Helpe Disco in Rio which was purported to be the largest disco in Latin America and was definitely humongous (one could proabably fit a dozen Blue Marlins inside it). Has that place closed down yet and has there been any more word on if and where they might be moving to?

Khun Larry
09-12-06, 06:03
Chase Star

How does Rio compare to BKK?

Columbian Lover
09-13-06, 03:18
Gentlemen,

I will be coming to SJ the end of September. It will be a business trip and I am not sure where to stay so I am not far from the action.

One of my customers suggested the Mariott Courtyard. I am not sure where that is.
I am looking for a nice hotel that is GF and not too expensive.

Can anyone give me suggestions?

Also since I have never been to SJ before, I have been reading recent posts and I am trying to find the good places to go. Again, can anyone give me some suggestions?

So, my last question is what is the going rate for a LT(all night)?

I am looking forward to the visit. I hope some one can help me.

I will keep reading and do my homework.

Thanks

Stoker Star
09-13-06, 22:25
I always stay at the Sportsman. Never been disappointed. A little noisy. Great staff with Johanna & Pricsella. Tried to stay at the Clarion once and it shoutdown while I was there.

Stevewxly
09-15-06, 04:00
Travelwind -

There is much info on this forum about good, decent hotels in San Jose. Look at the previous posts about hotels - and I recommend that you will not go wrong staying at the Castillo Hotel in Barro Amon. It is owned and managed by Americans. They are 'chica friendly' with no chica charges, and they cater to mongers from the US. Rooms are very nice, with all the ammenities, and the cash discount rate should be about $ 40. 00 per night this time of year - in the "green season".

They have a website. Do a search on Google for Castillo Hotel, San Jose CR.

Also it is about 6 blocks from the Del Rey Hotel & Blue Marlin Bar. Everyone's uncontested "hottie central" for P4P chicas in San Jose.

I recommend you take taxi's close to and after dark though, as if you walk the 6 or blocks to the Del Rey. You will have to pass through one of the parks. And they can be a dangerous place to find yourself especially after dark.

There will be streetwalkers in the parks starting around dark, but from experience I would recommend that you just 'keep on walking' and don't even speak to any of them. This area. Just south of the Holiday and the INNS (Insurance Institute) is also a favorite hangout for pickpockets and transvestites. And you don't want to personally "meet" any of them if you can help it.

If you want a hotel with a nice bar, and some working chicas around in the evening then check out the Sportsman's Lodge. It's just around the corner and up a block or so from the Castillo.

It's about a $ 2. 00 ride by taxi from either of these two hotels to the Del Rey Hotel. Where you will probably find yourself going a couple of times during the day or evening.

Columbian Lover
09-16-06, 03:46
Thank you for the information.

After reading some post, I think I am going to try the Presidente. This will be my first of many trip to SJ.

I know the Blue M and Key Largo are only a couple of blocks, but I have read that is still good to take a taxi to them even from the Presidente. Would you agree?

Thanks

Prolijo
09-16-06, 13:14
Chase Star, How does Rio compare to BKK?Sorry, I somehow missed this one. This is the CR forum so I probably should be comparing those 2 to CR. Also, I believe that particular question has been covered elsewhere. However here are a few of the key differences:

I see you've already been many times to BKK, so I'll focus more on Rio. As you know BKK is inland. If you want beaches there's always that hour or so trip from to Pattaya but the beaches there themselves leave something to be desired. IMHO Rio's beaches are MUCH nicer. There's just nothing like all those bronze-skinned thonged garota bundas.

Aside from beaches, in BKK theres much more non-monger stuff to see and do. BKK has all the over the top Temples and Palaces, and for day trips floating markets, ancient ruins etc. Rio has Sugarloaf and Corcovado and, apart from the beaches, thats about it. I never made it out to Macarana Stadium for a game which I'll have to do next time.

In the food area, IMHO, BKK has the definite edge. Thai food is more exotic than Brazilian and many other cuisines are available. There's also some pretty weird street food if you're adventurous. And its all dirt cheap. However Rio is no slouch for food either. The classic local dish is the feijoada, which frankly doesn't impress me that much (a pork stew with beans and different parts of the pig). If you like steak and BBQ, Rio has some great Rodizio, all-you-can-eat meat buffets, for pretty cheap.

But let's cut to the part you're really interested in. BKK has fishbowl MP's and soapies. Rio has termas. Each is quite different and its hard to say which is better. I suppose that is a matter of personal taste. The chicas themselves are also quite different. Thai girls are generally more petite spinner types. Neither tend to have big tits though the edge there would have to go to the Brazilianas and of course, there are always exceptions. If you're an ass-man I don't think anyplace can beat Brazil and many of the girls are into anal if thats your thing too.

Costs are cheap in both places though the edge definitely goes to BKK on that score too. The catch is the cost and time of getting there. I don't know where you're coming from. I'm in Florida and from here its something like 20-25 hrs of flying time and stopovers and unless you have FF miles well over $1000. Rio is more like 12 hours and well under $1000. That part everyone knows but the other key difference that you can't fully appreciate unless you've experienced both flights is that flying to Rio you cross very few time zones. That 12 hour time difference with Asia can be a real killer. Flying to Rio, you leave one afternoon, sleep on the plane and can be on the beaches late the next morning. IMHO, it all comes down to how long your trip is. If its long enough to make the flight, time differences and lower local costs pay than BKK. For less than 2 weeks I'd go to Rio. But it mostly comes down to are personal preferences.

Prolijo
09-16-06, 13:50
Travelwind,
Having read your other posts, I'm going to have to disagree somewhat with my mongering brothers here. First, lets dispel the Marriott Courtyard idea proposed by your associate. It is nice but way out on the edge of downtown and you'll be forced to take a cab to go anywhere EVEN during the DAY plus I'm not so sure about their chica policy though I'm guessing there are probably fees involved.

The Sportsmen's is a great place that is highly popular with mongers but for you that might be its downfall. For you this is not a purely mongering trip. In another post, you appeared to be concerned with what your local business associates would think from where you were staying. The Sportsmen's is NOT a businessman's hotel. It is a hotel for, well, sportsmen, by which I don't mean guys there just for golf and fishing. It does have a bar with a few chicas around it but the action there is sleepy compared to the BM where you'll probable want to spend a lot of your time your first trip and like the HDR you don't HAVE to stay at the same place you party at.

The Castillo is another fine place just around the corner from the Sportsman's and 1 block from New Fantasy. It's big draw is that it is cheap if you pay cash. Again I don't know if that is practical for you or whether you're on an expense account for your trip. According to their website www.hotelcastillo.biz it looks like their rates have been creeping up with green season cash rates for their basic room (which is quite small) now up to $44 + tax (thats what happend to these places when they become too popular with mongers and other regular visitors). Add $20 if you want a better room or 15% if you pay by CC. OTOH, if you stay a full week you can get a further 20% reduction.

For you, I still like the Clarion Amon. That closure that Stoker Star referred to was, so far, a one-time thing that happened back in May or June(?) and was very brief. Just some bad timing on his part. It had to do with some unpaid back taxes or some other bureaucratic issue, which presumably has been straightened out. If anything that shows how hungry for business these guys ought to be. The key is to book through the casino www.casino-paradiso.com rather than the hotel itself. The hotel's regular rates are $99 + tax which would be a rip-off. No wonder they can't fill their rooms. The casino rate is just $75 INCLUDING Breakfast AND ALL TAXES. Thats equivalant to a pre-tax rate of $64 which is about the same as Castillo's rates for their comparable deluxe rooms. ITs further from the Sportsman's and New Fantasy. Big deal. Its only 1 block from Zona Blue and 2 from NF and closer to all the Zona Roja MP's. At night, you'd probably want to take a cab to the BM or whereever else you want to go regardless of which hotel you pick. And choosing the US-based Clarion hotel will be a lot easier to explain to your colleagues.

If you want to economize than pay the $44(plus tax) cash price for a basic room at Castillo. If you plan to upgrade to a nicer room anyway, I think you'll be happier at the Clarion, with its cleaner image, full casino, nice restaurant, better location etc. all for about the same final price plus you might be able to put it on your company charge card.

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Ooops! I see you've decided on the Presidente. I wouldn't second guess yourself at this point and just go for it. If they turn out to be booked up while you plan to go then consider what I've posted above. I'd also recommend you go to CRT so you can find out about their discount policy with the Presidente and other SJ businesses.

As for taking cabs, until the security situation resolves itself better (they supposedly have increased police coverage with limited results) I'd take a cab at night, particularly when walking with a chica or with any cash. During the day walking anywhere should be perfectly fine. Just follow normal street precautions as you would in any city (ie be aware of what is going on around you)

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Prolijo
09-16-06, 14:19
Travelwind,
TLN? That's a tough one. The rate largely depends on your bargaining ability and chemistry with the chica (even more so than when bargaining for just 1 hour). My estimate is that very often one can turn a cien por una hora opening bid into a cien por TLN final settlement without too much trouble. Your bargaining power goes up later at night as all the silly chicas that have been standing around holding out for the elusive $100/hour rate that never came finally realize they're better off taking what they can get or else risk going home with nada. Add to that the fact that at that point they probably wouldn't be coming back to the BM for another score anyway. OTOH, if you wait too late into the night for bargains, you might miss out on other more choice chicas who have already left for TLN's or have made their mark for the night and won't be coming back. If the chemistry is right, you can definitely negotiate even lower rates for TLN than the $100. OTOH, there are guys who will pay even more than that so again it comes down to your bargaining ability. Personally, $100/nt is my upper limit.

Some other tips.

Tip#1, make sure its clear that a full morning session is included. There are many chicas whose idea of TLN is sexo until you tucker out for the night, sleeping with you in your bed and then rushing out early in the morning so they can be home before the kids get up. Worse, in my view, are the chicas that seem to want to sleep in all morning long as I like to get out at a reasonable hour and start doing things.

BTW, neither of these are an issue when you just pay them for an hour or 2 the night before, get the testosterone out of your system and either escort them back to the BM or send them on their way. You also get a better night's sleep albeit without a sexy chica to curl up against. If it weren't for the morning session would that benefit be worth the TLN premium? I don't think so which is why I personally don't bother with TLN's too often.

Tip #2, since you're going to be sleeping while some stranger is in your room, it becomes even more important to keep things secure. In any event it is a good idea to only take your drinking money to the bar and have everything else locked up in advance back at the safe in your room. Since you pay at the end there is no reason to even open the safe until it is time for her to go the next morning.

Tip #3, it is also my personal preference to only do TLN's with chicas I've been with before. This is for several reasons. First of all, there's the added security issue that I alluded to above. If you've seen her before and have become a regular customer, there's far less chance that she'll try to rip you off. Secondly, and perhaps more importantly, she may turn out to be a clunker. If you only negotiate for an hour, the most you'll be out is the $40-60 you initially agreed to. If you agreed to $100 for TLN and you decide early that she needs to go, you're forced to renegotiate a settlement. OTOH, if your hour session turns out well you can always negotiate up to have her stay over (or even get it at no extra charge) OR just arrange to go for a TLN on another night.

Columbian Lover
09-16-06, 22:48
Thanks for the information Chase.

It was very helpfull. I agree with you on all your points about over night stays. I have had both. As you have said it depends alot on the girl.

As for my hotel. I did get into the Presidente for all the night. I may have to change rooms on my last night, but that will be ok.

So if this is not to personal of a question, where do you hang out? Is it more day or night?

I have read you are the expert.

Thanks again for your help.

Columbian Lover
09-16-06, 23:31
I have read your recent post about the rates.

Maybe I am a little slow but, $100 is that for the night or per hour?

One of the post you sent me said the best you can do is $40/hr and another one said they start at $100/hr.

So, what is a good per hour rate to shoot for and what is the best all night rate to go for?

So, in the heat of battle for the best rate, how specific do you have to be?
Include kissing any special addition etc?

I have been to quite a few other countries like China, Taiwan and Thailand and I guess I never had to be specific about kissing. But I see some of the post discuss that, some do and some don't. It it the chem between the two people?

Thanks

Dodger Bulldog
09-17-06, 00:59
Tip#1, make sure its clear that a full morning session is included.
Tip #2, since you're going to be sleeping while some stranger is in your room, it becomes even more important to keep things secure.
Tip #3, it is also my personal preference to only do TLN's with chicas I've been with before.
... if your hour session turns out well you can always negotiate up to have her stay over (or even get it at no extra charge) OR just arrange to go for a TLN on another night.
Chase Star is 100% on the money! I agree with every single thing he says.

When I first started, I thought that TLN would be the coolest thing. It is not. I found it usually is far more trouble than it is worth.

Many chicas think that "all night" means a few hours, and are out the door by 3 AM. They rarely think that it includes another session in the morning.

With other chicas you'll find that a few hours is way too many, and you can't wait for them to leave.

I've never experienced a problem with security, but it is something to always be mindful of.

I've also learned that not many chicas will look, smell, or perform as well after a night of sleep. She won't be nearly as fresh, so you may want to bring a spare toothbrush and hairbrush for her to use.

And be sure to bring a makeup kit, as the chicas usually look a hell of a lot different once it has all worn off.

If you find that you are really up for another nut early in the morning, the advantage of the Del Rey is that it is open 24 hours. You just might be better off taking your chances there.

At the very least, definitely take Chase's advice and only engage a chica for TLN if you have already had a successful session with her and and find that you really enjoy her company.

DB

Prolijo
09-17-06, 02:43
Thanks for the props Dodger.

Travelwind.
Let me more clear. Almost all chicas at the BM will open with a $100 PER HOUR bid. Its what they often START ASKING at and not what you should ULTIMATELY PAY. IMHO, only ignorant newbies or guys with more money than common sense take them up on that, since most will readily settle for less. The $40/hr rate, that we were talking about, is about as low as you can probably get an hour for at the BM. You could start at that level on your side. Some here are arguing that not only should one start at that rate but should stick to it as assiduously as many of the chicas stick to their $100. I personally think somewhere in the $50-70 range is a much more reasonable and acheivable target. Again, IMHO, $100 PER HOUR is WAY too much for most chicas and $40 is probably too low but if you can get away on the low end, go for it. OTOH, paying the high end only drives up prices for everyone. Sure the free market should determine prices, but when chicas at MP's just a few blocks away work for as little as $10/hr, $100/hr at the BM is simply too much and I don't care how hot the chica is.

Rates for TLN are obviously very different. First of all, more time typically costs more money. There's also a wider range in what guys are willing to pay. If core hourly rates range from $50-70 then TLN rates probably range between $75-$125. But in both of those cases, those are only rough guides. Some guys pay much more and some pay much less. It alll comes down to various factors such as chemistry, bargaining skills and in the case of TLN whether she has babies she needs to get home to (in fact, asking about her parental status is a good opening question if you have TLN in mind). When I mentioned paying $100 as a good average rate it was for ALL NIGHT and only mentioned along with the cien por HORA issue because I see it as a valid way to counter a chica that won't go below $100. For many that is a magic level. They'll ask for $100/HR and refuse to compromise on price and yet are fairly willing to compromise on time. So they say "Cien por hora", You say "no, cinquenta, they say "no cien" you say "por todo la noche" and they say "Okay, lets go baby".

I'll never understand the logic of some of these chicas.

Some only ask cien because that is the unofficial rule at the BM (there is some speculation that it is the influence of the colombiana mafianas). Most know that most guys won't go for that and will readily compromise, particularly if you're discrete and don't advertise to their amigas how cheaply you got them for.

But there are also many that stubbornly stick to that rate. Some of the hotter colombianas manage to find many takers at that rate since there is always a parade of newbies flowing through the BM that don't know any better and are willing to pay it. I don't understand those guys either. They seem to think that because its such a bargain compared to the price of escorts in NY or whereever they're from that they're getting a steal, never mind what it costs them to get down to CR or what the local standards are.

But that brings me back to the chicas I don't understand. There are many "lower tier" chicas (6-7's) that seem to think they can get the same $100 rate as their much better looking hermanas. They'll turn down guy after guy who offer them $50-70 sticking with their pride and the futile hope that that $100 score is just around the corner. Often they wait all night for it and either finally budge on price or go home alone and empty pocketed. Even if they find the one guy in there with unfathomable taste in chicas and who's willing to pay $100, they wind up with one date at $100 maybe every other night when in the same time period they could have gone with 2-3 guys each night for $60 a pop (for those math challenged that's an average of $180/nt vs. only $50). To me thats just not good business. But maybe they just have their standards and their self-pride and it isn't all about maximizing their weekly earnings.

Prolijo
09-17-06, 03:02
Oops. You ask so many questions that I missed a few again.

"In the heat of battle..." Be careful about that. Another thing I commonly recommend is the first thing you do when you arrive in CR is to go someplace with fixed rates. An MP by day or if you get in at night IDEM makes a good choice up until midnight. That way you don't have to worry about negotiating and thinking with your little head. The most you'll pay is about 20K colones ($40) and you'll get that first shot of testosterone out your system. That way when you make you're first appearance at the BM, you'll more easily be able to stay in control.

"How specific do you have to be?" This is a touchy subject. Obviously you don't want to make it like a job interview or a contract negotiation with a zillion questions even though in many ways that is what it is. The art is slipping in the questions artfully and casually like it is all just part of your normal conversation. Probably you won't be able to cover everything you want to ask or should and by Murphy's Law it is usually the one thing you forgot or neglected to ask about that later comes up as something she doesn't want to do. Very few guys are perfect at this aspect of mongering and most likely if there is something that you forgot to ask and she doesn't do, it doesn't turn out to be a deal breaker. If you ask anything make sure you at least ask about the real dealbreakers and everything else will probably just fall into place. The other thing I should say is to not make it sound like a bunch of questions be playful about things. Joke with her about it, ask her "muchos besos" with a smile. "Si si si, of course, baby", she'll probably say while cozying up to you. "Pero, con lengua" you ask while sticking your tongue out at her and laughing. You get the idea. I think you find out as much by personal chemistry and a monger's intuition for GFE as you do by any specific question.

Silent Nited
09-27-06, 20:57
Does the Clarion have chica fees?

Jimbehr2000
09-28-06, 05:21
Amon Plaza has chica fees but there is a way around it. Contact Nixon at paradisorooms@hotmail.com and ask for their "CRT rate" which also waives chica fees. You should be able to book a room for $60 with daily American breakfast and no chica fees. Its a decent hotel in a quiet section of town. Very close to Del Rey but you always use taxis in San Jose at night.

They have suites on the top floor for about $85/night if you want to go upscale.

Paxsie
10-05-06, 06:09
I am ready for my vacation!! Guys, I am planning on taking a two-week vacation in Costa Rica. Does anybody know of any good hotel, apartments that offer discount for long term rentals? Your help is greatly appreciated.

Rebel Monger
10-05-06, 22:30
I am ready for my vacation!! Guys, I am planning on taking a two-week vacation in Costa Rica. Does anybody know of any good hotel, apartments that offer discount for long term rentals? Your help is greatly appreciated.Try this link
http://vistalinda.webcindario.com/

Qncterra
10-06-06, 02:10
I am planning another trip soon. Does anyone have current room rate at Morazan? Thx.

ChiliMike
10-06-06, 11:25
what i do is call the hotel 506-222-4622 book the room for your dates tell them you want the 35.00 deal...and before you check in go get a copy of the tico times (it has the coupon for 35.00 per nite) and have it with you while checking in. Thats the rate i have gotten for my last 4 trips with no problems but what ever you do dont use any items out of the mini bar ...total rip off they charged me like 7.00 for a soda and 1 candy bar...

Paxsie
10-08-06, 21:59
Try this link

http://vistalinda.webcindario.com/Has anybody stayed in this rental property before? Their website is http://www.sudamer.net/ . I got this off of Don Gordo's website. Just curious if anyone has positive/negative experience with it. Thanks!

Stoker Star
10-11-06, 03:05
Sportsman is really unbeatable. Phyliss will be missed. The lineup is better than in the past.

The food is decent. The tv's are great to watch games.

Cafe Mundo around the corner is very good and reasonable.

Rabo Verde
10-14-06, 14:18
Hotel Royal Dutch
Calle 4, Av. 2 506-222-1414 FAX 506-233-3927
dutchcr@sol.racsa.co.cr
Just off the Avenida Central Plaza, 3 minute walk to McDonalds, Pizza Hut, across from National Bank with ATM's. Near the Gold Museum and Opera House. 4 blocks/10 minutes down the promenade to HDR, Key Largo. Casino on first floor, Bar/restaurant on 2nd. Not a lot of gringos but they speak English. They are not going to hold your hand or bother you, this is just a nice efficient clean hotel, if you already know your way around. Nice, clean, large rooms with 19 inch TV, hot water, a/c, like a Holiday Inn Express. $37 Single $44 Double. Chica friendly or more like they don't care. Security guys in the lobby due to casino. Never saw them ask, but if they ask just say you are taking your friend to the bar on the second floor and proceed from there.

Rabo Verde
10-14-06, 14:20
Remodeled, Renamed, Prices Doubled (quoted $85 A Night)

Dan D Dick
10-23-06, 14:27
For the guys who are unfamiliar with the layout of San Jose:

I'm a Marriott wh*re - I support them nearly 100% of the time because I get such good service & so many upgrades and points. I selected the Marriott for my stay in SJO unsure if the location would be good or bad. I got a decent rate ($140) and was upgraded to a full suite. I also got free breakfast & dinner in the concierge lounge.

The property is beautiful and there were a few obvious mongers staying there - saw them in the concierge lounge with their "friends".

Unfortunately, even considering the excellent service, amenities, free breakfast & dinner & sodas I would not recommend this property for those who are primarily interested in mongering. Bringing your wife? Then it's great.

It's a very short hop from the airport (though they still charged me $10) and there's free shuttle service back to the airport. Unfortunately, the Marriott is so far removed from the gulch it's a real pain in the ass. About $15 taxi fare each way whether you use a hotel taxi or a street taxi. I was only there one full day but still made two trips to town (early afternoon & evening) and was therefore out an extra $60. That's a big deal in my book. Sorry Marriott.


/Dan D.

Youdoo2
10-23-06, 17:40
Well Dan,

If you like the Marriott, there is a courtyard Marriott located in Escazu(right in front of plaza Itzkasu) right off the highway. The rooms are ok and from what i remember the rates arent too bad either. its 1015 minutes from the Gulch about 2500- 3000 colones each way.

Prolijo
10-24-06, 00:27
Just out of curiosity, any Marriott chica fees and if so how much?

Chacha
10-24-06, 04:20
Folks
Thinking of going down to CR around Thanksgiving and was looking at the Intercontinental Real - I spent some time on the forum, but did not find any reports about it?
Is it Chica friendly? How far from action?
It says it is across the Mall - is there any non-pro action to be had in the malls (a la Jakarta?)
Any thoughts would be appreciated!

Dan D Dick
10-24-06, 04:28
Just out of curiosity, any Marriott chica fees and if so how much?


I've never seen one at any Marriott property though I once got busted bringing two gals back in Sao Paulo & had to upgrade to a suite. Otherwise all they want is a copy of the ID & they treat them like your significant other. Very professional.

/Dan D.

Stevewxly
10-29-06, 20:09
I am just back from a 35 day trip to Costa Rica.

Spent 30 days in Quepos housesitting for a Canadain couple. Great house, lovely pool, and all FREE. Nice deal, but I got kind of bored being in one place for so long.

For Cheap - below $ 20.00 San Jose Hotels.
I usually stay at the Nuevo Johnson Hotel on Calle 8 at 2nd Ave. Private room w/double bed, color TV, hot water bath, daily maid service, etc. - only 4200 colones or about $ 10.50 USD a night.

I have read that the Hotel Asia has just completed renovations, and as they are just around the corner from the Hotel Del Rey (and one would not have to take a taxi from one hotel to the other) I decided to give them a try this trip.

Their rooms were 5000 colones or just about $ 10.00. They had been remodeled and had the tile floors, hot water bath, decent double bed, but no TV in the room.

So I opted to go back to the Hotel Johnson for a couple of nights. This Tico hotel is a real good bargin if you only want to pay around $ 10.00 per night to get a safe and comfortable place to sleep. It's not as comfortable as the better hotels....say in the $ 40-50.00 range, but as I just need a place to catch a few Z's and take a shower, it's OK for me.

I have observed over the last couple of years that prices seem to continually creep up in Costa Rica.....for most everything. I have just about decided that I now need to concentrate my Central American trips on going to Panama....where prices are not yet as "tourist-driven", as they are in Costa Rica.

Dsinhou
11-07-06, 22:42
Great place to stay. Decent restaurant, and very good service in the hotel overall. Very good at making arrangements for transportation, business services, etc. It is in a nice part of town. There is, I understand, a 40 fee for visitors.

Lance Manion
11-12-06, 03:13
Just got back from SJ and stayed in one of the best mongering holes in Central America, Hotel Zona Blue. There has been some discussion on this board regarding ZB as one of the best MPs in SJ, but nothing about the renovations that has created 4 or 5 suites above the bar. Scoring one of these rooms is having access to the best bachelor pad and is a memorable stay for even the most experienced "mongers."

With all the new competition for upscale accommodations in SJ; Hotel ZB can certainly hold its own. While every room is a little bit different, each has a king-sized American bed (easily the most comfortable I have experienced in SJ); dry sauna, steam room; an awesome entertainment system (CD/DVD with multiple speakers); large Sony WEGA TV's; fridge; water cooler; modern and stylish furniture and fixtures; and access to some of the finest chicas right down the stairs.

Eddie and his staff - especially George, the night security man - did every thing to ensure I had what I needed. While some may relish the "hunt" of the DR and KL, I greatly valued the security and controlled environment of Hotel ZB. All the girls were sexy, had great attitudes performed with gusto; I never experienced a bad session. Moreover, I never felt unsecured with the girls in the room or felt I had to watch out for my belongings. This "piece of mind" allowed me to focus on the fun and went a long way toward having many great sessions.

Someone suggested that Hotel ZB should leave Viagra on your pillow instead of mints or chocolate – it's that kind of place. I've been to Thailand, German FKK clubs, Prague, Amsterdam and other well- known hobbyist destinations and I've never experienced a weekend like the one at Hotel ZB.

BTW, cost of the room was $195/night (about $220 after taxes) which included breakfast (at the Amon Plaza one block away – great buffet with made to order eggs), and $20 per chica for an hour session in your room. Also, some of the suites have two rooms, so costs can be shared with a wingman (but I'm not sure of the pricing). In short Hotel ZB = the true "pura vida" experience.

Lance

PS - a web site is under construction, but reservation inquiries can be sent to: hotelzonablue@gmail.com

Norhead
11-12-06, 18:52
Hi, I am going to San Jose later this month. Have booked a room for a few nights at the Hotel Presidente. It is supposed do be "guest friendly", but would be happy if somebody can confirm...

Jaimito Cartero
11-12-06, 21:16
BTW, cost of the room was $195/night (about $220 after taxes) which included breakfast (at the Amon Plaza one block away – great buffet with made to order eggs), and $20 per chica for an hour session in your room. Also, some of the suites have two rooms, so costs can be shared with a wingman (but I'm not sure of the pricing). In short Hotel ZB = the true "pura vida" experience.

Lance

PS - a web site is under construction, but reservation inquiries can be sent to: hotelzonablue@gmail.com

I enjoyed the ZB every time I went there, but at $220 a night, I highly doubt that I would consider it great value. Unless you're fucking every girl in there for the $20 an hour, it's certainly not a "great" value.

Prolijo
11-12-06, 22:17
JC,
I have to agree. That rate is a bit too rich for my blood too. The savings on the chica sessions are certainly nice at $20 a pop as opposed to $40 but not even Viagra could give me enough juice to have enough sessions in a day to offset the high daily price of the room by itself. However, to be fair to Lance he never actually said it was a "great value". What he said was he "greatly valued" the safety and controlled environment of the ZB - ie no need to even venture forth on the street, like at the HDR, but unlike the HDR no being beset by beggars every time you do set outside the door plus not the overwhelming presence of newbie spoiled scheming chicas.

Norhead,
Too much has been already written about the Presidente Hotel's chica policy which is somewhat schizophrenic. To summarize:
1) never any chica fees
2) only one chica allowed up per guest at a time (if you can get a buddy to sign your 2nd girl in under his name for you, you can get around that.
3) within the last year they instituted a chica dress code which has gotten many former guests (and some guys who have never stayed there in the first place) up in arms.

I'll expand a little on the latter. This is a monger friendly hotel but it is not a purely monger hotel like the Hotel Del Rey or the Sportsmens Lodge. The Prez found that the behavior of some of their monger guests was offending some of their regular guests. To curb that problem they decided to require any chica brought back by a monger dress with a modicum of propriety, e.g. no short skirts, no bare shoulders or midriffs, no exposed cleavages etc. The problem with this policy is that what violates those terms is somewhat arbitrary. It doesn't seem to apply to some of the gringas that might be staying there and certainly doesn't apply to the average chica you see out on the street in front of the Prez throughout the day who are often dressed just as "bad" (or good depending on your perspective). The bottom line is you need to behave with some consideration for the other guests at the hotel. Such things as no loud and boorish behavior and no groping of your chica before you even get through the lobby will probably place you in a category of guest that will be less likely to have the policy as rigidly applied to you. In that case, bringing back chicas that, by their manner of dress, are not as obvious prostitutes and, for those that are, having a jacket or wrap to cover any "offending displays of flesh" while passing through the lobby will probably be all you need to do. Also, many of the chicas know about the new Prez policy and are coming to the BM prepared to be able to deal with it.

Bottom line: if you're one that absolutely has to go for multi-chica sessions back at your room (as opposed to just going for it when you go to the MP's) or if you're one that really likes your chicas the sluttier looking the better, then you better find a different hotel. OTOH, if you're one that can compromise a little in those areas then the Prez is the same old desirable hotel it has always been for most of us.

Norhead
11-14-06, 22:58
Thank You Prolijo, useful information! As I will only stay for three nights before heading for the beaches I guess I can deal with their new policy. Might consider a MP in-between... Would probably stay at the Sportsman next time!

Columbian Lover
11-16-06, 01:32
Norhead,

I stayed at the Presidente in late September. I thought it was a very nice hotel. Very good staff.

Very GF. I never had a problem other than ID check.

Location is great to go to the Blue Marlin.

I would suggest it.

I am coming back in December.

Columbian Lover
11-21-06, 00:38
Gentlemen,

Has any ever stayed at the Intercontenial?

I am looking at that or the Best Western.

I have been told that the Best Western is nice.

Is either one closer to the city or about the same?

Any extra fees or GF for either?

Thanks

Norhead
11-24-06, 19:28
I have now stayed a couple of nights at Presidente. No problems at all, ID-check is OK for security. The girls at Blue Marlin seam to be aware of the new dresscode, most of them carry an extra jacket...

Professor10
12-01-06, 01:01
Can any monger give me an idea of the Hampton Inn & Suites is anywhere close to any MP's and or clubs. Looking to go sometime in April and I know Sportsman Lodge is the best for a newbie, but since I have 1000's of points in Hilton hotels, I wanted to get the room for free for about 5 nights. Any help from experienced mongers would be appreciated. The place is on Airport Blvd and site says .4 from the "city center." (whatever that means). Thanks!

LurkerNoMore
12-11-06, 07:16
To all of those considering staying at the Hotel Presidente, let me state that, IMHO, they are NOT chica friendly. I was fully aware that they had a dress code when I brought a chica to the hotel. I even paid her friend an extra $20 to let her borrow a jacket. She had a denim skirt on that was about 2-3 inches above her knee. I never thought this would even be close to an issue. When I got to the hotel, the doorman gave me a big hassle. I managed to talk some sense to him. However when I went to check her in at the front desk, they said her skirt was too short. I tried talking sense to them, but all he would repeat was 'we have a dress policy'. I went to Catholic school and they wore skirts much shorter than this. So, in the future, I don't think its worth staying at the Presidente, since 99% of the girls in the Del Rey would not meet their 'dress code'.

Thought you may want to know.

LNM

Xavier Wash
12-28-06, 02:39
Hello everyone,

I will be going to Costa Rica in June and I am looking for a hotel that is in the heart of all the action were I can get to the ladies within walking distance of the hotel or a short drive away. Plus if the hotel is not guess friendly then a place to take them not to far away from the nite life. thanks in advance.

KYJ
12-28-06, 15:29
Xavier Wash,
I strongly recommend the Hotel Del Rey as filling your needs to be near the action and in a guest friendly place.
Have fun.

Prolijo
12-29-06, 02:16
I realize that the HDR is considered the most well known and popular place to go for guys seeking CR P4P by the world at large. What I don't understand is how a place that charges you $10 every time you bring a chica back to your room to be really monger friendly. Sure the bar in the lobby is "ground zero" for monger action but that doesn't mean you have to stay there to enjoy it. About the best I can say for the HDR is that if you've never been to CR before and want to experience mongering to its utmost than spending a night or 2 at the HDR will fit your bill. From my own experience and most guys I've spoken with that have spent any decent amount of time in SJ, the frenetic and cash-gouging nature of the HDR establishment can quickly wear on you and for those guys and myself, we much prefer other nearby places. There are several that are arguably more monger-friendly that not only allow chica guests but charge much smaller fees or none at all when you bring chicas back to your room. The Morazon literally just a stone's throw from the HDR charges only $3 per chica or no fee at all depedning on who you talk to and for the rooms themselves which are as nice or at least nearly so as those at the HDR they charge $20/nt less. The Presidente doesn't charge any fee at all for the chicas they allow in. Their rooms are much nicer than the HDR and they cost less with the CRT discount and that includes a nice breakfast which you'd have to pay a lot extra for at the HDR. I'll admit that their admittedly screwy and unevenly applied dress code disqualifies them too from being considered totally chica friendly, but I know many guys who have not had any problems at all bringing chicas back since the code went into effect so I ahve to wonder what else those that have are not telling us. A little further afield but still within walking range or a very short cab ride are several other hotels that do not charge any chica fees at all and are much better values for what you get in a room including the Sportsmen's Lodge, the Castillo, Casa Vino, Amon Plaza, etc. and many guys would tell you they actually prefer being in the much quieter safer neighborhood just 3-4 blocks north of the HDR.

Dbros9
01-03-07, 18:47
Going to San Jose in a few weeks on a business trip - the hotel we are supposed to stay at is the Real Intercontinental. Is this hotel girl friendly?

If not, any suggetions on a decent place near the action.

Thanks

Dsinhou
01-04-07, 16:46
I have stayed at the Intercontinental. Very nice business hotel. I don't remember what the fee is, but there is a fee. I think it was about $40. I stayed on the business floor, and the girls just checked in there, No hassels.

The bell desk or club desk can get you transportation, english speaking, if you want it. They provided me with a bell man, who made sure I made it the DR, went inside with me to help interpret, etc.

Very nice hotel. hand rolled cigars in the lobby at night.

Prolijo
01-05-07, 03:03
I don't remember what the fee is, but there is a fee. I think it was about $40. I stayed on the business floor, and the girls just checked in there, No hassels.I'd call paying $40 to bring a chica back a major hassle. Maybe they don't outright stop you from doing it but why would when they can make that sort of money from guys that do? For $40, you'd be much better off just getting a short-term room for a few hours at Motel Eden or even the Morazon.

Dsinhou
01-05-07, 16:29
I don't think $40 bucks is a big deal, and, I actually prefer to be in a hotel that I know is nice, safe, clean and english speaking.

Jaimito Cartero
01-05-07, 18:28
I don't think $40 bucks is a big deal, and, I actually prefer to be in a hotel that I know is nice, safe, clean and english speaking.

A fool and his money are soon parted. :D

There are plenty of hotels that meet your requirements, with no onerous fees involved. I was in the Sportsman Lodge a couple of weeks ago, and it looked fine. English is spoken there, and it seemed quite safe.

Ford
01-24-07, 16:39
I scrolled back a few pages and haven't seen this place mentioned recently. The 2X I've traveled to SJO I've stayed at the Hotel Europa.

http://www.hoteleuropacr.com/

Clean comfortably sized rooms (some with balconies), not great but serviceable outdoor pool, reasonable fees, absolutely no issue or charges associated with guests, a comfortable walk to the action and an american breakfast included every morning with your room.

All and all a solid choice.

(Really "friggin" adorable front desk girls too. Doesn't hurt their business either) :D

Indian1
01-31-07, 21:28
Gentlemen,

I have been to San Jose and Jaco Beach in the past. I am planning a trip to Costa Rica February 8. 12, 2007, yes next week. I have tried to book the Del rey and they have no rooms. I have stayed in the Del Rey before and the Presidente. I want to try other hotels that are close to Del Rey that are "walking distance and chica friendly" Any suggestions and comments about Baldoral; Morazon, Amon Plaza or anywhere else. Is the Sportsman close enough to walk. Also. Where do you take the chica if you cannot bring her back to the Hotel. Is there one to rent by the hour close by and how much?

Jaco. What is the best hotel around Beetle Bar that is chic friendly. Within walking distance. Claritas is full so that is not an option. Is there a place to go if I stay in the Best Western (not chica friendly) if you meet with someone at the Beetle Bar. Another words. By the hour.

Thanks

Prolijo
02-01-07, 01:54
Balmoral - I believe has a hefty guest fee and thus is not chica friendly (others correct me if I'm wrong)

Morazon - I have stayed there a number of times though not recently. IMHO, the quality of the rooms there are on par with those of the HDR (where I've also stayed long ago). Even if they're of slightly lower quality, the price savings more than make up for it. They have a regular special rate of $35/nt + tax (vs. $55/nt at the HDR). Chica fees are $3 though even those are sometimes waived (vs. $10/visit at the HDR). You do have to run the gauntlet of beggars every time you walk the 1 block between the HDR and the Morazon, but you'd have that every time you went anywhere else if you stayed at the HDR. There have been some complaints in the past about the reliability of their reservation system, but at this point what are your alternatives. That might not be as much of an issue now that they've lost the popularity they had in the Badabing era.

Amon Plaza - haven't stayed but have been in there and it is very nice. If you book with them book through the casino for the best rate. http://www.casino-paradiso.com/acco.htm $75/nt + tax incl. breakfast vs. something like $100/nt if you book through Clarion. Close enough to the HDR/BM to walk during the day but take a cab at night and 1 block from Zona Blue and 2-3 blocks from New Fantasy.

Like the Amon, the Sportsman is close enough to walk to the HDR/BM during the day but it may be advisable to take a cab after dark. But if you can't get into these other places, I doubt you'd be able to find a room there. Cab fares to either should cost less than a buck unless you stupidly use one of the taxis that wait outside the doors of the HDR (mainly for the sucker newbies that stay there).

Some other chica friendly hotels in the same area as the Sportsman's and the Amon that you might try are the Castillo, or possibly the Casa Vino, Dunn Inn or Hemingway.

If you cannot bring her back to your hotel, you can rent a room at the Morazon if one is available for just a few hours for something like $20 or you could go around the corner to the Hotel Asia, which is not as nice, where I believe the rooms go for something like $10.

Jaco is not my town so others would be able to provide better firsthand advise for there than I would.

Jose Marcia
03-06-07, 00:44
I went through tons of pages, but could not determine which hotel to stay at or to take an apartment? I will be in SJO 3/25-3/31.

I would like to stay at a centrally located hotel that does not charge for a chica and should not give me any problems for 2 chicas per day or at the same times. I am looking for something like $40/night rates.

Any help will be appreciated. Thanks in advance.

Bx Loco Gringo
03-25-07, 16:59
Does anyone know how this place is and how friendly?

Thanks,

Bx Loco

Magz0202
04-01-07, 17:15
i stayed at balmoral on 2 speerat occasions for the 2 weeks duration from england on the 8th feb 07

i went with a group party

i had the normal rooms and my friends had the suites

now they are chica friendly

i took lts of ladies back they charge me at the desk $15 to take them back

but if you have a suite they are free you don't pay

and also if they stay with you till the next day

they can get breakfast with you as well

but thats only in the suites

but its a 2 min walk to the del rey and all the chicas know it and when you tell them the balmoral

they up and off with you

i think the place has a good reputation

i certainly would recommend it

hope this helps you guys:

andy

Traveler04
04-05-07, 00:22
I have stayed there 8 times in the past 20 months and have had no problem with guests. They will need to show ID and sign in at the front desk sometimes. Night time is the only time I ever had to have them sign in. I stayed with two girls for 6 days. No problem.

I will say that a lot has to do with how the girls act and dress etc.

Piper1
04-14-07, 11:57
Having read the hotel reviews here and elsewhere, I'm not sure which one to book. I'll be staying 5-6 nights and will be trying my luck with a few non-pros I'm in contact with via the net, including a 30 y.o. professional (i.e., she has a "legit" profession), so I won't be staying at Del Rey. On the other hand, I want to be close to the action spots in case my "dates" don't lead to bed.

Bottom line is I want to find a "decent" hotel where I can comfortably bring home either a non-pro or a pro. Would Sportsmen's lodge fall into this category? If not, any suggestions?

Prolijo
04-14-07, 15:26
I think if she sees the chicas hanging out at the bar she might get some idea of what sort of clientele frequent the place, but at least the SL doesn't have the same infamy that the HDR holds. Plus not being on the corner of a major traffic thoroughfare like the HDR is, she won't have to worry about anyone seeing her walk in.

Personally, I like the Castillo which is right around the corner from the SL. The rates are a little better. It doesn't have a bar in the lobby like the SL, but for a non-pro that might be a plus. It does have a pool room where you occasionally will see gringos and chicas playing together but much less obvious than either of the other hotels mentioned. And, if you need a bar to hang out in, Sonny's (or whatever they call themselves these days) is right next door and the SL Bar or even the BM are just a short walk away.

Even if a chica figures out what you might also be up to while visiting SJ its not always the end of the world after all "todos los hombres son perros" anyway. As long as you aren't too obvious about what else you're doing (or can claim "plausible deniability" to use political parlance) she can pretend that there is nothing dishonorable about what she is doing with you. The main thing is that she doesn't get tagged as some puta which most will feel like if they walk into a brothel like the Del Rey.

Allover
04-14-07, 17:13
I still think Amon Plaza is your best option. HDR and Sportsmen's definitely give off a monger vibe to anybody visiting. Amon Plaza is a nice hotel, girl friendly, close to the action, but would not appear too obvious as a mongering hotel to your non pro chica.

Any hotel in the gulch would likely raise some suspicions but I'd try Amon Plaza.

Piper1
04-14-07, 20:22
Thanks for the suggestions Allover and Prolijo (BTW why did you change your username?)

After Sportsmens Lodge, Hotel Castillo was on top of my list of options (pool room in both is a big plus! ;)) I'll check Amon on the net tonight.

Yes, my research showed that staying in the gulch could raise suspicion with a "nice" girl, but I'm actually going for work as well as play, so I can easily say my company or the airline booked the hotel for me without my knowledge of the area.

The hotel where I'm supposed to stay and work is the Ramada Herradura Golf Club Resort. I know it's far away from the hot-spots, but if I succeed in getting a non-pro or two to hook-up with me, it could be an attraction for them, no? (out of town, nice swimming pools, resort atmosphere, etc). I might end up staying both there and in the gulch on different nights.

How long (taxi driving time) is the Golf Resort from the gulch?

Piper1
04-14-07, 22:52
Yep - Amon Plaza looks pretty good.

Btw - Hotel Gran Via is now called San Agustin. $41/nt/dble incl tax
http://www.elsanagustin.com/ing/rooms.htm

Dbros9
04-16-07, 04:42
Is it true the Presidente now has a Chica fee?

If so when did that start?

Prolijo
04-16-07, 12:46
Dbros, I'd like to have that confirmed as well since it was news to me.

Piper, I agree about the Amon being a better choice for a guy seeking a hotel that is at the same time "monger"-friendly but not obviously "monger". Also, the renaming of the Gran Via was news to me as well (I had heard they reopened but not about the name). Thats what I love about boards like these. Are they still as monger-friendly as before or have they moved in the same direction as the Presidente down the street?

My original handle was actually CRMonger, but I didn't like the term "monger", which connotes that we are promoting something disreputable like smelly fish or *****s. Plus even though I post a lot in the CR section here and elsewhere, I travel elsewhere in Latin America and didn't want a handle that limited me as much. My original handle on WSG was Chase Star, which refers to my stagename when I was briefly in the adult-video biz. when the boards split I decided to use my traveling handle here and keep Chase for just my domestic work on USG. Prolijo comes from the spanish word for overly wordy, verbose, tedious, detailed, prolific. Its a self-deprecatory joke which anyone who reads my posts, including this one, will understand.

Continuing to work down through the posts. The HDR, SL and Castillo are all primarily hotels for hobbyists. In terms of being obvious about it (or monger-vibe as Allover puts it). I'd give the HDR an 11 out of 10, SL a 6 or 7, and the Castillo a 2 or 3. Its true that staying in the Gulch might raise some suspicions especially for a single older guy, but there are also PLENTY of non-mongers who stay at hotels in the Gulch so IMHO plausible deniability is still there. However, if you want to play mickey the dunce and claim that your airline or company booked the room for you then the Presidente in the heart of the Gulch would be more believable than either the male vacationer oriented SL or the smaller B&B like Castillo. However, as already has been pointed out, if chica friendly but not monger obvious is your goal then one should be able to better still than the Presidente these days. Companies tend to book their guys at places like the Ramada Herradura (way way outside of town and far from the Gulch), the Marriott (just off the autopista that circles downtown on the way in from the airport, closer to the gulch but still pretty far outside of town) or some other US chain type place. Businessman from other Latin countries use their own chains like the Barcelo, which is in the Paseo Colon/Sabana area and closer still than the Marriott (you could even walk to the Oasis from there). The Amon is actually part of the US-based Clarion Hotel chain and so would be very beleivable as having been booked by your company. Other places like that in the downtown area would be the BW-Downtown (very chica-friendly) and the Holiday Inn Aurola (right across Morazon Park from the Key Largo, but charging a $20 visitor fee unless you sign your chica in as a fellow guest for the night)

Piper1
04-16-07, 12:56
My original handle on WSG was Chase Star, which refers to my stagename when I was briefly in the adult-video biz. Good work if you can get it. You must have some tales to tell.
Prolijo comes from the spanish word for overly wordy, verbose, tedious, detailed, prolific. Its a self-deprecatory joke which anyone who reads my posts, including this one, will understand. LOL

You may have missed my question below, and since you know of the Ramada Herradura, here's the question again:

"The hotel where I'm supposed to stay and work is the Ramada Herradura Golf Club Resort. I know it's far away from the hot-spots, but if I succeed in getting a non-pro or two to hook-up with me, it could be an attraction for them, no? (out of town, nice swimming pools, resort atmosphere, etc). I might end up staying both there and in the gulch on different nights.

How long (taxi driving time) is the Ramada Herradura Resort from the gulch?"

Prolijo
04-17-07, 02:15
The hotel where I'm supposed to stay and work is the Ramada Herradura Golf Club Resort. I know it's far away from the hot-spots, but if I succeed in getting a non-pro or two to hook-up with me, it could be an attraction for them, no? (out of town, nice swimming pools, resort atmosphere, etc). I might end up staying both there and in the gulch on different nights.

How long (taxi driving time) is the Ramada Herradura Resort from the gulch?Yes, it could be an attraction. Then again, she might just feel out of place there hanging out amongst a bunch of fat middle-aged gringa wives who will look disapprovingly at her when they see a young tica like her hanging out with an older gringo like you. Besides, I think luxury like that is largely wasted on any of the working class chicas you're likely to pursue. They can't feed their ninos with it or take any of it home with them. Better to save your money and impress them by taking them on a shopping trip and spending the same money or probably even less on something for them or their kids

Re: the taxis: Not sure about the exact driving time. Depends on traffic. But I'd put it this way: It is much closer to the airport than it is to downtown SJ.

Piper1
04-17-07, 11:55
Yes, it could be an attraction. Then again, she might just feel out of place there hanging out amongst a bunch of fat middle-aged gringa wives who will look disapprovingly at her when they see a young tica like her hanging out with an older gringo like you.Had to chuckle. One of my upcoming "dates" is a gorgeous highly-educated 32yo professional (nonP4P, and same profession as me), so we won't be too much of a mismatch (considering I'm a gorgeous early 40s professional :D). The two students I plan to meet (20 and 22) could be another matter.

I also want to make sure I get time for some wild P4P without the dating/romancing complications. Solution: I'll book one of the "decent but GF" hotels you and Allover have recommended. Thanks again.

1Ball
04-17-07, 15:28
Had to chuckle.......(considering I'm a gorgeous early 40s professional :D).

Boys, don't believe a word he says. He is not professional.
Wait, he is not gorgeous either.
Sure you are not in your 50s?
;)

Piper1
04-17-07, 22:35
Sure you are not in your 50s? ;)After a few nights on the town in BKK with you, I usually feel like it. ;)

Black Dak
04-23-07, 10:08
OK so I just finished reading all 15 pages of this thread. I'm still a bit up in the air.

My buddy and I have booked our flights to CR. We plan on staying in SJ for 2 nights then somewhere in the jungle for 2nights and back again in SJ for our remaining 2 nights.

I have already contacted the SL, as it was my 1st choice in accomodations. Got an email back from Vanessa tonight telling me that they are booked for the duration of my stay in CR. So I have a list of other hotels, but I cannot decide on which. I'd like to poll some of you experts on your opinions. As I am a total green horn. 1st time in CR. As I mentioned I have read ALL 15 pages and these are the hotels I have picked. I am not looking for other recomendations. Though the gesture is greatly appreciated.

So here is my list. I'd like to know what the chica fine is if any for these locations. I know about the CRT rate with Nixon. Does it still stand?

Clarion Amon Plaza ( booked though casino)

Balmoral

Castillo

Europa

Morazon

Best Western Downtown

Personally I'm flip-flopping between the Amon and Europa.

I'd like feedback regarding chica fees, and location. Primarily distance to BM or ZB.

Thank You in advance!

Dak

Six Paku
04-23-07, 23:04
Is the Balmoral chica friendly?

What is the chica fee?

All the other known hotels are booked up, for the time I will be there.

Allover
04-24-07, 04:09
If you book through Nixxon, there will be no chica fees at Amon Plaza. Just ask Nixxon for the special rate you mentioned, you don't even need to join. He won't ask to see a membership card. Nixxon is also knowledgeable about mongering and he can be helpful. Europa has no chica fees. Amon Plaza is nicer, but Europa is cheaper. Amon is a 2 minute walk to ZB and a 10 minute walk to Ble Marlin. Its also nicer than the other hotels you mentioned.

Best Western downtown is far from the action.

Black Dak
04-24-07, 04:23
So I tried calling the number that was supplied here for The Amon Plaza Hotel. I had read that to get the best rates I would have to contact Nixon Directly and book through the Paradise Casino. This is the number that I got: 506- 378-6775. I called and there is arecorded message basically telling you that the number has been disconnected. I then called the Clarion direct and asked for the number to the casino. I was told that there is no casino attached to the Clarion. The only casino in the neigborhood is at the Del Rey 2blks down the street.

What gives?

What am I missing?

Black Dak
04-24-07, 06:20
If you book through Nixxon, there will be no chica fees at Amon Plaza. Just ask Nixxon for the special rate you mentioned, you don't even need to join. He won't ask to see a membership card. Nixxon is also knowledgeable about mongering and he can be helpful. Europa has no chica fees. Amon Plaza is nicer, but Europa is cheaper. Amon is a 2 minute walk to ZB and a 10 minute walk to Ble Marlin. Its also nicer than the other hotels you mentioned.

Best Western downtown is far from the action.Nice! Thank You.

I attempted to call Nixon but the line is disconnected. I ended up emailing him. If they have rooms for all 4 nights that I will be in SJ I will do that. Hope they have rooms.

As a backup, I booked 2nights at Europa and 2 nights at Castillo.

Fla Fun
04-24-07, 22:56
OK so I just finished reading all 15 pages of this thread. I'm still a bit up in the air.

My buddy and I have booked our flights to CR. We plan on staying in SJ for 2 nights then somewhere in the jungle for 2nights and back again in SJ for our remaining 2 nights.

I have already contacted the SL, as it was my 1st choice in accomodations. Got an email back from Vanessa tonight telling me that they are booked for the duration of my stay in CR. So I have a list of other hotels, but I cannot decide on which. I'd like to poll some of you experts on your opinions. As I am a total green horn. 1st time in CR. As I mentioned I have read ALL 15 pages and these are the hotels I have picked. I am not looking for other recomendations. Though the gesture is greatly appreciated.

So here is my list. I'd like to know what the chica fine is if any for these locations. I know about the CRT rate with Nixon. Does it still stand?

Clarion Amon Plaza ( booked though casino)

Balmoral

Castillo

Europa

Morazon

Best Western Downtown

Personally I'm flip-flopping between the Amon and Europa.

I'd like feedback regarding chica fees, and location. Primarily distance to BM or ZB.

Thank You in advance!

DakFor my last night in San Jose, if I have an early plane to catch I stay at a small friendly hotel about a mile to the airport. Hotel Mango is also next door to a Denny’s Restaurant for a good breakfast. There is casino next door, taxi cost about $2 to airport.

Hotel mango (506) 440-0808
Rio Segundo de Alajuel
75 yards from from the Hampton Inn

Hotel Don Carlos,
Rated 4 stars by yahoo user reviews - about $60 a night
San Jose Rated #5 for all San Jose hotels
779, Calle 9 & Avenida 9, Barrio Amon
San Jose 1000

Hotel Presidente
Rated 4 ½ stars by yahoo user reviews - about $85 a night
Central Ave Blvd 7TH St
San Jose, CA 1000 Costa Rica

Del Rey Hotel, San Jose
Rated 4 stars by yahoo user reviews - about $55 a night
1ST Ave at 9TH Street
San Jose Costa Rica

Hotel Morazan
about $55 a night
Phone 506 222-4622
about a block from BM and Hotel Del Rey

Balmoral Hotel
rated 4 stars by yahoo users - about $75 a night
7-9 Central Ave
San Jose 1000

Most taxi rides in and around the city are only $3 to $7

Black Dak
04-26-07, 07:31
Ok all set.

I'm staying four nights at the Clarion Amon Plaza. CRT rate is hard to beat. I finally was able to contact Nixon on the phone. Sounds like a great guy. Gonna do Jr. Suites. The freakin rooms are so cheap down there my bud and I are gonna get separate. That's prolly the way to go any way right? Keeps you from having to hang a sock on the door knob!

Rolleratnight
05-03-07, 18:49
to who it may concern,

thank you for choosing the hotel del rey during your stay in costa rica,
we`ll be more than happy to have you as our guest. as you may know, we
are a very busy hotel, being full nearly every night. we have the best gig in
town, so come on down an have a good time. somewhere between our blue
marlin bar, casino del rey, monkey bar, deli bar, lobby bar, key largo bar,
and our new 5 star restaurant del mar (all of them open 24 hours a day), you
are bound to find something going your way. we have grip on the night life
in san jose, so why would you spend your extra money and time in taxis
getting back and forth to some second choice down the road. even though we charge for breakfast and extra persons, our prices are on the middle of the
road, but you'll find that you can't beat the hotel del rey for an
unforgettable vacation. go to www.delreyhotel.com and click the reservation link where you can fill in the blanks and we will have all the info we need to make your guaranteed reservation.

all of our rooms have standard air conditioning, minibar, ceiling fan,
safe deposit box, bathtub, phone, 52-channel cable tv, wireless high speed
internet access for laptop users (available upon request and we charge
$10.00 for every 24 hours) and 24 hour room service.

deluxe with 1 king size bed & balcony (mini suite) at $120.00 + tax **1
person**
deluxe with 1 king size bed at $110.00 + tax **1 person**
deluxe with 2 queen size beds at $110.00 + tax **2 people**
standard with 2 queen size beds at $93.00 + tax **2 people**
standard with 1 king size bed at $80.00 + tax **1 person**
economy with 1 queen size bed at $70.00 + tax **1 person**

please note that in order to make a reservation we required your full name, complete address, phone number & fax number, airline, flight number & arrival time, as well as your credit card number & expiration date, and we need you to specify how many people will be on total (with their names) in order to guarantee the rooms.

thank you,

*********************************************************

note how they feel a little insecure because they charge for breakfast and "extra persons"! i don't know, but i sort of feel like that song advises "you better shop around"

Allover
05-04-07, 08:41
Ok all set.

I'm staying four nights at the Clarion Amon Plaza. CRT rate is hard to beat. I finally was able to contact Nixon on the phone. Sounds like a great guy. Gonna do Jr. Suites. The freakin rooms are so cheap down there my bud and I are gonna get separate. That's prolly the way to go any way right? Keeps you from having to hang a sock on the door knob!


I'm not sure what you call cheap. What was the rate for the jr suite? The regular rooms are big especially for one person. The jr. suites are on a higher floor and I never saw them. Yes I think you and your bud should get separate rooms. But why not request adjoining rooms?

They have adjoining rooms with a common door. You and your friend can enter each others' room with going in the hallway. When you want privacy, just lock the door in between the two rooms.

Kid Brooklyn
05-08-07, 00:59
I'm not sure what you call cheap. What was the rate for the jr suite? The regular rooms are big especially for one person. The jr. suites are on a higher floor and I never saw them. Yes I think you and your bud should get separate rooms. But why not request adjoining rooms?

They have adjoining rooms with a common door. You and your friend can enter each others' room with going in the hallway. When you want privacy, just lock the door in between the two rooms.I agree. The Jr. Suites are $85 or 90, the regular rooms (which are huge) are $70, plenty for one person. The chicas don't need to be impressed, it's overkill. You can get one with 2 double beds so you can play in one and sleep in the other.

Piper1
05-08-07, 20:25
I just emailed Nixon at paradisorooms@hotmail.com
He replied within five minutes. Here are the details if anyone is interested in booking Amon Plaza.
_____________

Hi Piper (*name changed to protect the innocent)

The rate will be $70.00 for the standard and Jr suite will be $90.00 taxes and breakfast included and no chica fee. Will need a credit card number to hold the booking. My cell number is 506 8787 138.
Regards
Nixon

Piper1
05-08-07, 21:43
One more question before I book a hotel.

I just found that Travelocity.com has a special deal at the moment:

$696 including taxes for NY-SJ-NY flights (Lacsa/Taca), inclusive of 6 nights in a standard room with breakfast, at Best Western Downtown.

The airfare alone is $535. So - six nights at Best Western for an extra $160 - which works out to $26/night.

What's the catch?

Member #2964
05-08-07, 23:14
Try to book that time and at that price and you will see the catch. BW down town also has a chica fee.




One more question before I book a hotel.

I just found that Travelocity.com has a special deal at the moment:

$696 including taxes for NY-SJ-NY flights (Lacsa/Taca), inclusive of 6 nights in a standard room with breakfast, at Best Western Downtown.

The airfare alone is $535. So - six nights at Best Western for an extra $160 - which works out to $26/night.

What's the catch?

Book the Amon. Its also closer to ( with-in 6 blocks of the DR,ZB, Euopa 2000, etc.

Piper1
05-08-07, 23:35
Try to book that time and at that price and you will see the catch. BW down town also has a chica fee.I just did a dummy-run of the online booking. It was going to work for the stated price, but at the final step before authorizing my credit card, this little sentence appeared: "All hotel rates are based on double occupancy". ie they have the right to put another travelocity customer in my room. No thanks. (plus that brings the room-rate to over $50 anyway - sneaky sneaky).

I'll book Amon.

Piper1
05-12-07, 14:32
I arrive in San Jose for seven nights starting next Saturday, after what will be a sleepless night of Friday night clubbing in New York (after a 14 hour flight from Dubai). By the time I get to SJ, I'll probably need to sleep for the week. ;)

I managed to book Sportsmens Lodge for three nights (that's all they had available). Then Amon Plaza for the next two nights. I'll stay at the Ramada Herradura Golf Resort on my final night, 20 mins out of town (as I have an 8am work gig there the next morning, before flying back home).

Trouble is, I cannot get a booking for my first night in SJ (Saturday night). Damn you American weekend mongers. ;) I might have to sleep in the parque with the trannies after all - unless someone can suggest a little-known place to crash next Saturday night.

I have a few amigos.com girls promising to meet up (one offered to pick me up at the airport - but that's too way much commitment for me). I'll see how it goes, but it looks like an interesting week coming up.

BTW - Ramada Herradura Golf Resort has a large statement on their website stating they're part of an alliance against sex exploitation in CR - so I guess they're not GF. The girl who offered to pick me up at the airport lives near the resort, so I'll try my luck with her that night. She's early-30s, works in an office, a bit rubenesque, but very cute, so I hope she exploits me. ;)

Liathain
05-12-07, 21:30
Piper1 wrote:

"I just did a dummy-run of the online booking.

It was going to work for the stated price, but at the final step before authorizing my credit card, this little sentence appeared:

"All hotel rates are based on double occupancy".

ie they have the right to put another travelocity customer in my room.

No thanks. (plus that brings the room-rate to over $50 anyway - sneaky sneaky)."

"All hotel rates are based on double occupancy".

You could not have it more wrong. I have traveled in North, South, & Central America booking with Expedia & other similar sites. It simply means if You Have Someone Meeting You There, You Have Rented The Room To Accommodate 2 People Of Your Choosing. You are the ONLY One who can decide to allow a second person to spend the night/day/week in Your Room. The room Costs the Same if 1 or 2 people use it. I have many times booked my flight & room via Expedia while my girlfriend for the week is flying in from another direction, or I book my vacation and find a girl for 1 or more nights, I have already Paid In Full to have 2 people use the room.

It is not a Match-Up-Service. That thought is actually very funny.

Think of the comedy & all the resulting train wrecks that would result from that type of room assignments.

Piper1
05-13-07, 03:36
Liathain, I believe you. I knew they probably wouldn't put someone else in my room. (But technically, they could if they wanted to. I didn't take the risk). Besides, I'm not paying for the hotel rooms (work is paying), so I prefer to use the allowance on something better.

Piper1
05-23-07, 22:54
I just checked out of Sportsmens after three nights in a junior suite (Palmas Suite). The room was comfortable, spacious and quiet. Free wireless internet was fast (it went down a couple of times during the rain, but not for long). Similar set-up to Livingstones/Giottos in Bangkok. Bill's a charming host, and the reception girls are friendly and helpful (and damn gorgeous). They went out of their way to find an adaptor for my laptop in town.

My only small recommendation would be to provide coffee-making facilities in the room, and an alarm clock.

Relaxed atmosphere in the Lodge, with pool table, bar/restaurant, gaming table, and always a few friendly girls and a bunch of guys chatting away and laughing. Too bad I didn't get the time to socialize in the bar area a bit more. I was busy writing a paper for a conference (the 'real' reason I'm in San Jose, of course), plus catching up on sleep after a rocky start to the trip, and enjoying some of the local, ahem, 'hospitality'.
_______

Just checked into Clarion Amon Plaza just around the corner (everything is pretty close here). Nixon's a friendly chap. Again I booked a suite. It's large modern and comfortable. Two beds, but I only need one (or maybe not).

Tiny 12
06-16-07, 20:38
Plusses --

Very attentive, friendly staff, at the front desk & in the restaurant/bar. They try to get to know their customers
Guest friendly; they'll even have a maid make up your room between dates.
Nicely-decorated room and reasonably good amenities -- like Flat screen T.V., wireless internet. The bed was as good as you'll find anywhere in San Jose. Room was outfitted with everything you need for a romantic date (e.g. candles).

Minuses --

Insects -- they need a good exterminator
Location -- This one is debatable. It's in the middle of a residential neighborhood, close (but not within walking distance of IMHO) Mall San Pedro. They will call a cab for you, and generally I didn't have to wait for one very long. If mongering, I'd prefer to be closer to Del Rey. While it's not far in distance terms, it can be slow going if the traffic is bad.

Observations --

This place was kind of intermediate between a hotel and a B&B. I was under the misconception this place might be a little like the Del Rey or SL, only with hotter, higher-priced women milling around. This did not turn out to be the case. Although I did notice several women around the bar looking for business over the course of a couple of days, selection was poor. I would have liked to have given the outdoor hot tub a try with a date, but never had the opportunity. They are really emphasizing poker tournaments right now.

Price -- I paid about $180, after pleading, begging and lying. See their web site for prices of rooms. If you plead and beg and lie, they may give you a discount.

Would I stay there again?

If my trip were for the primary purpose of mongering and if I weren't able to get into the Presidente, yeah, I think I would.

Member #3200
06-17-07, 07:38
You paid $180-is that per night?

And you had 2 beg & lie 4 that price.

And it also had a bug problem.

The minuses outdo the plusses bigtime my friend.

Prolijo
06-17-07, 21:37
Even without any bugs, $180 night is a lot to pay for what he described.

The location is actually only 2 blocks from the back entrance to the San Pedro Mall. That is less than the distance between say Zona Blue and the BM and therefore well within walking distance for anybody. I know since I regularly used to walk between the CRLA which is practically next door to the Hotel M and the Mall for lunch. I can only guess that he didn't know where he was going and walked the long way around by going out to Avenida Central, but even then it isn't that far. More significantly, it is definitely a bus or 3 minute cab ride to the Gulch.

That might be a little inconvenient but the real kicker for any monger is that there are few working girls on site and none nearby. For that type of money I'd sooner stay at Hotel Zona Blue for $200/nt, whose rooms are probably as nice as Hotel M, but which also has a bevy of beauties available downstairs for a specially discounted rate for hotel guests of only $20/hr. Screw the candles. Just think how many candles you could buy on your own with that type of savings.

Tiny 12
06-17-07, 21:50
There must be a short cut to the mall or I got ripped off by the taxi driver -- I walked there the same way the cab brought me, past the Subaru agency, and it was a lot longer than 2 blocks. I never made it to/from the gulch in 3 minutes; a couple of times when the traffic was bad it took more like 20+ minutes. Otherwise I don't disagree with what you wrote.


The location is actually only 2 blocks from the back entrance to the San Pedro Mall. That is less than the distance between say Zona Blue and the BM and therefore well within walking distance for anybody. I know since I regularly used to walk between the CRLA which is practically next door to the Hotel M and the Mall for lunch. I can only guess that he didn't know where he was going and walked the long way around by going out to Avenida Central, but even then it isn't that far. More significantly, it is definitely a bus or 3 minute cab ride to the Gulch.

Prolijo
06-18-07, 00:07
there must be a short cut to the mall or i got ripped off by the taxi driver -- i walked there the same way the cab brought me, past the subaru agency, and it was a lot longer than 2 blocks. i never made it to/from the gulch in 3 minutes; a couple of times when the traffic was bad it took more like 20+ minutes. otherwise i don't disagree with what you wrote.tiny, there is a shortcut, but it sounds like you might have gotten ripped off by the cab drivers too. you just turned the wrong way when you left the hotel. if you went the other way, the mall would have been just past the 2nd street on your right. but by way of the suburu dealer it still couldn't be more than 500 meters.

and heading the other way to the gulch, i've never seen traffic that bad but if it really took you 20+ minutes then you'd have been better off just walking or at least getting out to walk where the traffic got real bad. it is "only" about 16 blocks (calle 41 to calle 9). that is about 1.6 kms or 1 mile. in a cab going a slow 20mph average (school zone speed) it would take only 3 minutes. even with incredible traffic and getting stopped at every single light (which wouldn't happen on a major drag like avenida central), it shouldn't take much more than that. heck, most people could walk the whole way at a leisurely 3mph in 20 minutes or less.

Tiny 12
06-18-07, 00:49
Prolijo, I'd guess it's not over 2 miles, but the traffic down the main drag through downtown sucked both on the Saturday afternoon I was there, and around 6 in the afternoon on Friday. Actually, I don't remember having any problems getting to the gulch, it was coming back that it was slow. Late at night it was a breeze either way. But I will provide you with an hour with the hooker of my choice if you can do it in a taxi in 3 minutes, door-to-door.

Prolijo
06-18-07, 05:18
Tiny, at this point I'm not so sure I'd want the hooker of YOUR choice that you'd pick out for ME :). Let's just leave it at maybe your overstating the time a bit and maybe my understating it. Either way, I think we both pointed out larger factors working against choosing the Hotel M for one's base of mongering operations.

Tiny 12
06-18-07, 16:59
Prolijo, too bad, I had a great "girl" picked out for you that works at Josephines. (Just kidding.) Yep, Hotel M would need to get some attractive working girls to be a good choice for the monger. And given the limited number of rooms and customers, I don't see that happening -- the women are going to make more money at the Del Rey.

Dan D Dick
06-29-07, 14:54
well, headed back to sjo with a buddy this time. 'bout my 4th trip since last october. we stayed at the sportsmens lodge in the 2-bedroom penthouse suite. a few comments:

i love the sl - the gals are great (i don't mean the putas trolling), it's conveniently located, bill is a decent guy, essentailly no problems except for lack of decent rooms when i decide to visit on short notice.

as to the penthouse....never again. i really enjoyed the common living area with two bedrooms; it was perfect for me & my wing man. the couch has large enough to have visitors over & the jacuzzi(s) were fun. but there were problems:

cost: $250/night less the crt discount plus 26% in taxes.... ten nights cost me more than $2900 us with only 59,000c charged in food and only 22,000c in stuff lifted from the mini bars by the putas. way too much, imo.

it's a pain in the ass to get to, up a circular staircase, especially with luggage.

if you're in the 2nd bedroom then you have a 2nd circular staircase to navigate.

the 2nd br is decidedly inferior; cramped, limited services & you have to go downstairs to [CodeWord134] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134) in the middle of the night (if you're old like me or weak like my wingman).

the air conditioning never really worked right. before we fixed it the air only came out of one duct. so it was loud & hurricane-like. we never did get the auto setting to work properly. so we were typically either hot or cold.

there's two jacuzzis - not quite sure why. takes about 30 minutes to fill it up so if you're pulling putas out of the del rey for st fun you'll probably never use it. on this trip i ditched my old novia jennifer (mucho whiskey) & found a new, gorgeous gal at the sp mall. so we got good use of it. using two at the same time is extremely difficult because of the limited hot water.

there's no decent work station for your laptop. i wound up using an end table. i have work to do when i travel & it was very difficult in that set-up.

the wireless internet sucks. period. flat out not acceptable. this is a core criteria for me because i still have to manage my business. there's plenty of room for a work station or two & if it were wired ethernet i'd proably not be so negative. but this was just too poor to ignore.

the maid service was excellent - great little gals; absolutely no issues.

bottom line - the concept was very good but the execution fell very short. add to that the cost & the only reason to rent it is for some over-night parties occassionally.

a few pics of the visitors that stopped by.

/dan d.

Lorenzo
06-29-07, 21:40
Dan D Dick,

Thanks for the info on the SL penthouse. I love the SL and will be staying there in July (in the Junior Suite). I had thought of bringing a monger pal of mine with me on a future trip and both of us staying in the penthouse, but after reading you report, no way. It is information like this that makes this forum really helpful.

I also enjoyed the photos, all but "Puta 1." Yuck. You must have picked her up at closing time. :) The others were choice, however. It makes me even more eager for my trip.

L

Dan D Dick
06-30-07, 17:48
....about Puta 1. That one was my wing man's!! And he did pick her up at closing time. [but I do admit to indiscretions & poor judgement with putas from time to time...]

I was happy to hook up with a local gal for an absolutely great time. In fact, I'll be back in two weeks & staying at the Marriott (no rooms at the SL that I considered acceptable).

BTW....stopped off & chatted with Matt, the new owner of the Amistad [sp?] located a block from the SL. It'll have about twice the rooms as the SL, a bar area and included made-to-order breakfasts (for two). Some of the rooms are VERY oddly shaped simply because he has to work with what he's got. Overall I was very impressed. There'll be discounts for CRT memberships & stays of >1 week & >1 month. The location is great (maybe just a tad better than the SL as it's a little closer to the hospital, cafes & farmacias. Some of the rooms are VERY nice.

Unfortunately the construction will continue to about Labor day. Also - no putas allowed unaccompaniied. Haven't decided if that's good or bad; I suspect overall quite good though I do enjoy the eye candy.

/Dan D.





Dan D Dick,

....all but "Puta 1." Yuck. You must have picked her up at closing time. :) The others were choice, however. It makes me even more eager for my trip.

L

Lorenzo
06-30-07, 18:55
.... Also - no putas allowed unaccompaniied. Haven't decided if that's good or bad; I suspect overall quite good though I do enjoy the eye candy.

/Dan D.
Well, that would squelch it for me. Girls hanging around is the main attraction of SL. I mean, what more can you ask for, being able to walk out of your room and have pussy available without even going outside? Such an amenity lets me overlook the drunken mongers whooping and guffawing at the bar until midnight. :)

L

Zepplin
07-04-07, 06:44
Yep - Amon Plaza looks pretty good.

Btw - Hotel Gran Via is now called San Agustin. $41/nt/dble incl tax
http://www.elsanagustin.com/ing/rooms.htm


Valuable info; was able to contact them thanks to your update!

They said they don't have refrigerators available now though.

$32 per day for single (king bed).

I'm counting on still no chica fees.

Z

Rebel Monger
07-06-07, 06:39
Valuable info; was able to contact them thanks to your update!

They said they don't have refrigerators available now though.

$32 per day for single (king bed).

I'm counting on still no chica fees.

Z
Well Zepplin, don't expect to find Hotel San Agustin where Hotel La Gran Via used to be. Hotel La Gran Via was remodeled and now is Hotel Maragato http://www.hotelmaragato.com/. And no $32 per day room there!

Dgfd
07-06-07, 12:58
Not a place for the light sleep--noise from inside & especially the street is very noticeable.

Zepplin
07-12-07, 23:58
Well Zepplin, don't expect to find Hotel San Agustin where Hotel La Gran Via used to be. Hotel La Gran Via was remodeled and now is Hotel Maragato http://www.hotelmaragato.com/. And no $32 per day room there!

Thanks for the heads up. You are correct and I just got back and would only recommend San Augstin as a very last resort. One good thing is they usually have rooms. Ask Victor if you want to know about something. Even though he is not from CR he can help you with most anything.

Big drawback #1 no ceiling fan. No airflow at all, interior room. #2 Lockbox mounted to 1/2 thick closet shelf. #3 Interior doors used for rooms. Talk about flimsy.

I got outta there after the first night. At $32 sounds like a deal but really not worth that much. Got in Morazan for $41. Much much better.

The Maragato is $69 per day + tax for a single and did not have the apperance of chica friendly or even tolerant atmosphere.

Z

Zepplin
07-13-07, 00:04
What a figg'in dump. One sheet on a vinyl covered mattress. Room not much bigger than the bed. Bathroom with shower. 4k for 2 hrs. Oh well I guess you get what you pay for. After being there I wonder how many girls would actually agree to go there. The one I took there fit right in . Not worth a shit, but that's another story.

Z

P.S. are the $11 rooms for a day any better/ Maybe I should have went with that option.