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Old And Ugly
11-03-24, 20:22
I don't know, maybe I lost it, because everybody else complains about it, but I think the girls are better quality in AC than in the past, thanks to the western food companies that took over the PH, including the animal feeds, now the filipinas are taller with longer legs.
Locamotive
11-03-24, 22:32
I think you're talking about Vegas, to get a GFE like in PH not the in 'and out, waiting in line service, in US will cost you an exorbitant amount of money, I'm talking thousands of USD, and you still know in the back of your mind that is fake. In the PH the GFE beside being way cheaper, it also may have something real to it, most of the girls if you treat them right have hopes that you may become their BF, and it did happened many times in the past, when actually mongerers married BGs. (about the last part: there may be exceptions, but personally I think that a BG will always be a BG).This is second reply to Aml3740 orginal post, so I'll chip in. Don't know where he is but $400 for a hour? Hmm maybe his quality is a bit different from mine. 20 year old beauty for 400 bucks, yes I'd like to know that location as well. Granted in US large cities like and. Why Miami LA things are probably possible but 400 dollars!!If we are talking about Vegas yes I've tried that as I've mentioned here before. Seen a few ladies of the Asian persuasion there close to the caliber I get over here. But HaHaHa they were no where near 400 bucks and their priced I just laughed. If you found a spot with young hotties for that price tell us, it would be cheaper than my trips. I've seen post like that in the past before but strangely no one ever gives out a location or details. The escorts I've seen in US for that price were either crack wh $$$ or absolute dogs.
Curios G. What is the scene like in Mindinao? I have not been for Jesus must be 20 years now. Did not find much back then. Are there actual bars of any sort (BF or freelance) or is everything online? I know it's the "new way" but I still hate it. I like to see my potential pussy face to face before I make a decision. Old school I know! Thanks for any info.I'm the wrong person to ask. I went to Mindanao specifically because I don't like bars and barfines. I did see a few bars in passing but I have no idea on quality, prices etc. You do you but going to Mindanao to repeat an AC experience seems totally counter productive to me.
Online certainly paid dividends for me. Have a look at the Other Areas forum for near daily posts of my trip.
SouthEaster
11-04-24, 15:45
Actually I wasn't exactly wanting to repeat the AC experience, I was hoping for something better! I will check out your other areas posts but I still like face to face and point and shoot and that sounds unlikely, maybe anywhere.
SouthEaster
11-04-24, 15:49
Unfortunately you are talking about a small minority of Filipinas. The biggest change over the years is all too apparent. Fatter.
Unfortunately you are talking about a small minority of Filipinas. The biggest change over the years is all too apparent. Fatter.I was thinking that some of the girls are a little taller. Like maybe 5'2 instead of 4'9. But, luckily, I can still find the shorter ones!
Also, it depends where you find the girl. If you go to the province and find a girl that loves gulay and not Jollibee, you're in the gold!
Where can hookers be found in their down time? I see many of them in the medical clinics, geting their STI checks and occasionally early in the morning grabbing a bite to eat after long timing and night clubbing. The clinic chicks are not interested as they are with their pals and running a message, so to speak. I also see veterans swanning about, hoping for a short time but they need sleep.
They seem to have a different beat than Pattaya where they can be found having meals before work or even owrking out in dance classes.
I will be back there soon. Last time, I often had lunch with hookers, much to my GF's anger. Although the hookers were well fixed up with Korean boyfriends / cash cows, I found them boring and one dimensional, probably as they found me,.
Although fok here thing hookers in Angekes are a big deal, they really only are to be found in WS, and not even in the malls, down town or at Dau station. I am just going through my options in advance and trying to map out the terrain, but hookers seem to congregate in one area only and don't seem to have downtime.
Unfortunately you are talking about a small minority of Filipinas. The biggest change over the years is all too apparent. Fatter.The taller and the longer pinays are an about to be extinct species. Guess too much of lying on their backs in missionary and not riding enough.
WestCoast1
11-06-24, 00:56
The taller and the longer pinays are an about to be extinct species. Guess too much of lying on their backs in missionary and not riding enough.Ya. Maybe. Or not.
.. but I still like face to face and point and shoot and that sounds unlikely, maybe anywhere.Bars in Sabang, Cebu or Subic.
Freelancer Clubs in Poblacion.
...I am just going through my options in advance and trying to map out the terrain, but hookers seem to congregate in one area only and don't seem to have downtime.Get an invite to the girls dorms. That's where they chat or pass out after work / between John's.
Think about their work hours and it's no surprise that they pass out asleep rather than have a relaxing afternoon in cafes etc.
The exception when one hits pay dirt with a generous guy and then a girl will treat her friends to a night out or even a weekend away.
Cheers. G.
NapaSlapper
11-06-24, 09:34
Masquerade bar on walking street is having an upstairs bar and open air seating built, it seems a good idea, be a bit like kokomos bar where one can sit and people watch but with masquerade bar one will have the advantage of height for a better view of the street.
Walking street Road works getting worse, now they are digging up some of the newly laid areas for some strange reason, on many rainy nights the middle of the street turns into a mud bath, not pleasant at all.
Larger Korean bars have some customers like xs bar, Madonna bar, gold moon bar, smaller korean bars fairly quiet, local drinks 150- 180 peso, lady drinks 350 peso (lady drinks mainly a small juice) barfines mainly 5000 peso for the plain girls,6,000 peso for slightly better girls, many drinks only girls and asian only girls can be found here.
Western bars, lollipop bar, geckos bar, champagne bar, masquarade bar very quiet indeed, what few customers they do have are older expats in early, maybe buy the 1 beer and stare at the girls, very few punters buying lady drinks, local drinks 120-150 peso, lady drinks mainly 300 350 peso, barfines mainly 5,000 peso, although once in a blue moon an ok looking girl can be found in these bars they are very rare, mainly older, chubby plain janes with high mileage found in western bars.
Word of warning, there has been many 1st hand reports from very reliable sources of guys getting robbed back at the room by street girls and some online girls, normally able to get into key operated room safes and clear them out while guys are showering, have heard of 3 such reports just in the last few days, much safer to get girls from the bars as one knows where they work and come from unlike street girls and online girls that one has nowhere to go back too once robbed.
Yes some guys claim angeles is safe and street girls are safe and they never had a problem but its never a problem till it is a problem.
Report on perimeter road bars coming when I get more time and its not great news if one is even slightly fussy in bed partners.
NapaSlapper
11-06-24, 10:36
Unfortunately you are talking about a small minority of Filipinas. The biggest change over the years is all too apparent. Fatter.100% agree, many moons ago when girls were bought in straight off the rice farms of samar at the tender age of 18 it was almost impossible to find even a slightly chubby girl, roll on to today and its a needle in a haystack to find a nice slim girl, blame the alcohol, blame the fried food, blame jollibee blame lazyness but for sure fatties are now the norm in many bars.
Word of warning, there has been many 1st hand reports from very reliable sources of guys getting robbed back at the room by street girls and some online girls, normally able to get into key operated room safes and clear them out while guys are showering, have heard of 3 such reports just in the last few days, much safer to get girls from the bars as one knows where they work and come from unlike street girls and online girls that one has nowhere to go back too once robbed.Hi Napa and thanks for the info.
Like G, over time, I've stuck to a plan of avoiding unnecessary bar fines and totally unnecessary lady fruit juice drinks.
I've also never come across a key operated room safe in The Phils.
With a strategy in place, the freelancers I meet aren't necessarily 'street girls' and they're not online finds, as I don't have time for that.
On my return visits, I meet up with my previous contacts, however my next trip to Sabang in a few weeks will be spent with with the first girl I met there a few years ago and have met on nearly all visits.
I'd be interested if you could share the reports or links of the three reports you've received recently of guys who have been scammed / robbed via the room safe.
I've never had an issue with freelancers, and they don't need to be classified as typical street workers for the benefit of those new to the Phils or this forum.
I feel like it's more likely for me to get robbed in the Phils these days by visiting a go-go bar with all the associated costs.
Just my observations _ Phil.
Word of warning, there has been many 1st hand reports from very reliable sources of guys getting robbed back at the room by street girls and some online girls, normally able to get into key operated room safes and clear them out while guys are showering, have heard of 3 such reports just in the last few days, much safer to get girls from the bars as one knows where they work and come from unlike street girls and online girls that one has nowhere to go back too once robbed.
Yes some guys claim angeles is safe and street girls are safe and they never had a problem but its never a problem till it is a problem.
I guess it's no coincidence that ST hotels are becoming more popular and plentiful.
I guess it's no coincidence that ST hotels are becoming more popular and plentiful.Thanks for your comment about hookers' downtime. Not a great life and fits in with most but not all of my experience.
As regards light fingered ones, that would be a constant ratio unless something caused it to change. I do know guys who were drugged and others who were honey trapped and more who were robbed but the odds don't change, no matter what fantasists who pretend to be bar regulars might think. The main problem is they lack energy and enthusiasm because of sleep and other deprivations.
Madonna again raised their prices. They added another level to their barfines. The barfines are now 6 K, 7 K, 10 K, and 12 K. I was there at 6:30 pm today. The 12 K girls wear gold dresses. I was told there are 5 of them. The one remaining wasn't that good. Curious about the other 4.
At Madonna, the ladydrinks went up to 550 pesos. The SML went up to 250 pesos.
The good thing about Madonna is that they guarantee the girls will stay until the morning.
I am assuming the prices at the other Korean went up also. But I generally don't like to go barhopping in the Korean bars. They generally have higher prices, and the girls wear dresses. In Baccara (a Korean bar), an SML is now 200 pesos.
On a side note, the price of an SML went from 140 to 150 at Lollipop, Avalon, and XS. Barfine at Viking is now 5500 pesos.
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Lollipop does not have chubs working there. Mostly thin girls maybe 7's into the night. Still a good crowd of foreigners. On Halloween night there was an Asian who brought 9 girls into the bar for drinks. I recognize 2 of them as Lollipop girls. Many foreigners there and no one batted an eye.
Transporter
11-08-24, 01:37
I've also never come across a key operated room safe in The Phils.Unfortunately the electronic safes have a master key that the manager has access too. Just in case something goes wrong with the electronics, there is a mechanical override.
WestCoast1
11-08-24, 09:41
I've also never come across a key operated room safe in The Phils.
Unfortunately the electronic safes have a master key that the manager has access too. Just in case something goes wrong with the electronics, there is a mechanical override.T is correct. Even on electronic units, the safe can be opened in non-electronic ways. Hotel maintenance guys will often have a spare key, or know another way to mechanically open the safe. Even the maids and cleaners will often know slight-of-hand ways to get into the room safe. If its a hotel, the safe must be open-able by staff. On a recent trip in the NCR, the airbnb host sent me the electronic code to open the safe after I arrived (ie, 4-3-2-1 or such). I tried and it didn't work. "Nevermind the code. There is a safe box key. Its on top of the aircon unit. Stand on a chair you will find it. Keep it safe and return it there when you leave". Well, there it was, it worked fine, and I returned it as I found it. Even standing on a chair it was difficult to get at on top of the aircon near the ceiling (and invisible). What if I was only 5' 7"? An interesting place to hide something: Well above where your typical pinay could see it unless she stood on a box placed on a chair or table.
A decade ago one of my regulars (fired from several Burgos gogo bars) one day showed me a variety of techniques to find and steal a client's money from him while he showers or sleeps. She opened my locked suitcase in just 5 seconds using a ball-point pen. She opened the room safe in less than a minute. She said she could open any suitcase or briefcase that had a key or combination lock. She showed me some odd places that foreigners had thought to hide their cash / phone / jewelry. She was full of surprises (both pleasant and unpleasant). Many hardcore FL know these tricks.
The room safe is analogous to the passenger-side hand-grip above the window in most cars: In an accident, a psychological hand-hold, and nothing more. Naivete is the other opiate of the masses.
The room safe is analogous to the passenger-side hand-grip above the window in most cars: In an accident, a psychological hand-hold, and nothing more. Naivete is the other opiate of the masses.To be fair, that's the same as my car or home as well. Any perceived security is only to keep the opportunistic thieves away. Anyone determined or knowledgeable can enter either in seconds.
G.
Thanks for your comment about hookers' downtime. Not a great life and fits in with most but not all of my experience.
As regards light fingered ones, that would be a constant ratio unless something caused it to change. I do know guys who were drugged and others who were honey trapped and more who were robbed but the odds don't change, no matter what fantasists who pretend to be bar regulars might think. The main problem is they lack energy and enthusiasm because of sleep and other deprivations.I carry little cash, just transfer to Gcash or their bank accounts.
T is correct. Even on electronic units, the safe can be opened in non-electronic ways. Hotel maintenance guys will often have a spare key, or know another way to mechanically open the safe. Even the maids and cleaners will often know slight-of-hand ways to get into the room safe. If its a hotel, the safe must be open-able by staff. On a recent trip in the NCR, the airbnb host sent me the electronic code to open the safe after I arrived (ie, 4-3-2-1 or such). I tried and it didn't work. "Nevermind the code. There is a safe box key. Its on top of the aircon unit. Stand on a chair you will find it. Keep it safe and return it there when you leave". Well, there it was, it worked fine, and I returned it as I found it. Even standing on a chair it was difficult to get at on top of the aircon near the ceiling (and invisible). What if I was only 5' 7"? An interesting place to hide something: Well above where your typical pinay could see it unless she stood on a box placed on a chair or table.
A decade ago one of my regulars (fired from several Burgos gogo bars) one day showed me a variety of techniques to find and steal a client's money from him while he showers or sleeps. She opened my locked suitcase in just 5 seconds using a ball-point pen. She opened the room safe in less than a minute. She said she could open any suitcase or briefcase that had a key or combination lock. She showed me some odd places that foreigners had thought to hide their cash / phone / jewelry. She was full of surprises (both pleasant and unpleasant). Many hardcore FL know these tricks.
The room safe is analogous to the passenger-side hand-grip above the window in most cars: In an accident, a psychological hand-hold, and nothing more. Naivete is the other opiate of the masses.A hotel manager once warned me. Never bring more than 1 girl at the same time. And NEVER a Ladyboy.
WestCoast1
11-08-24, 13:30
A hotel manager once warned me. Never bring more than 1 girl at the same time. For safety box protection.
And NEVER a Ladyboy.For backdoor protection!
Old And Ugly
11-08-24, 14:45
Get an invite to the girls dorms. That's where they chat or pass out after work / between John's.
Think about their work hours and it's no surprise that they pass out asleep rather than have a relaxing afternoon in cafes etc.
The exception when one hits pay dirt with a generous guy and then a girl will treat her friends to a night out or even a weekend away.
Cheers. G.I've been to one of these dorms about 15 years ago, I don't think much has changed: a big room with tiled floor, and some hooks on the walls where they hanged their belongings, girls were sleeping on the bare floor, or some lucky ones, had a pillow and a blanket, they had a CR with a tabo and a bucket that doubled as a washroom, and another room was a simple kitchen, everything tiled all way up to the ceiling. There were some kids too, girls were taking turns babysitting while other ones were working. It was surprisingly clean, but sad, and no privacy at all. If I remember correctly this was located somewhere 3-4 blocks behind Kokomos.
Back then the girls didn't want to leave the comfort of the hotel room for as long as possible, you had to chase them away.
Our days I think only some of the newcomers whithout friends are using the dorms, most of them, depending on how much money they make, share 3 K apartments.
.......A decade ago one of my regulars (fired from several Burgos gogo bars) one day showed me a variety of techniques to find and steal a client's money from him while he showers.....Many years ago in a casa I caught a Colombian chica rifling through my trousers pockets after I got out of the shower (mid shower) on a whim. Ever since I always have my trousers within sight while in the shower.
Old And Ugly
11-08-24, 14:49
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I've also never come across a key operated room safe in The Phils.
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Just my observations _ Phil.I think he is referring to the master key that the management has, I used that a few times, when the battery ran out, or the door was stuck.
Old And Ugly
11-08-24, 14:58
Our resident fake is at it again. I told him not to write numbers, only opinions. Then it's not so obvious that he's a fake. His numbers are wrong again. He's not in Angeles. He keeps doubling down on a lot of the BS he writes. I guess he finally stopped calling the Q Bar a Korean bar; it always was a Western bar.
Madonna again raised their prices. They added another level to their barfines. The barfines are now 6 K, 7 K, 10 K, and 12 K. I was there at 6:30 pm today. The 12 K girls wear gold dresses. I was told there are 5 of them. The one remaining wasn't that good. Curious about the other 4.
At Madonna, the ladydrinks went up to 550 pesos. The SML went up to 250 pesos.
The good thing about Madonna is that they guarantee the girls will stay until the morning.
I am assuming the prices at the other Korean went up also. But I generally don't like to go barhopping in the Korean bars. They generally have higher prices, and the girls wear dresses. In Baccara (a Korean bar), an SML is now 200 pesos.
On a side note, the price of an SML went from 140 to 150 at Lollipop, Avalon, and XS. Barfine at Viking is now 5500 pesos.I didn't had the opportunity to set foot inside Madona since they opened, but after reading this, I'm making sure to steer clear of it.
I don't see any reports about the newly opened Skin / Level 5, the bar owned by the guy from Rock 69. I did go there 4 times, once was too early, another time was too late, and the other 2 times the only customers were only me and my GF, but we didn't stay.
Old And Ugly
11-08-24, 15:21
This is second reply to Aml3740 orginal post, so I'll chip in. Don't know where he is but $400 for a hour? Hmm maybe his quality is a bit different from mine. 20 year old beauty for 400 bucks, yes I'd like to know that location as well. Granted in US large cities like and. Why Miami LA things are probably possible but 400 dollars!!If we are talking about Vegas yes I've tried that as I've mentioned here before. Seen a few ladies of the Asian persuasion there close to the caliber I get over here. But HaHaHa they were no where near 400 bucks and their priced I just laughed. If you found a spot with young hotties for that price tell us, it would be cheaper than my trips. I've seen post like that in the past before but strangely no one ever gives out a location or details. The escorts I've seen in US for that price were either crack wh $$$ or absolute dogs.If you have time, you'll find some 3-400 $ beauties in Vegas, but not off the street, is going to be around 2 am at the lounge bar in Harrah's, or on line, but is going to be a shitty short experience, or a LVPD sting and you may end up in jail, and divorced / fired / in the news. Also you most likely get drugged and robbed, or with your bank accounts drained, without even knowing for a few weeks. An "overpaid" AC experience will cost you in Vegas many thousands of dollars, therefore I never complained much about the recently doubled prices in AC. Of course I'm not crazy and I would like the prices to stay on the low side, but when I have no choice and I pay a 5 K BF, I always remember what the alternative would be back home, and I smile.
In the mean time I congratulate myself, and the fellow mongerers in SEA knowing that in USA only the super rich and famous have GFs in their 20's.
In Insomnia, the official barfine is 4000 pesos.
But now the owner is allowing the girls to charge 5000 pesos. This is a recent development. Started one or two months ago. The bar gets 2000 pesos, regardless if the girl charges 4 or 5 K. The girls are saying they charge the new customers 5 K. I guess the new customers won't know, or care, since it seems the barfines on Walking Street is 5 K and above.
I don't like having different barfines for different customers. It seems they are ripping off the newbies. I heard that there's different barfines for the black-taped models at XS. Wondering if there are other bars like that.
But thinking about it, I guess this policy at Insomnia protects the regulars, many of them are the old, retired types. They are charged only 4 K, which might be the lowest on Walking Street. Is there any other bars on Walking Street that is the same or lower?
BTW, it does seem that Insomnia has the lowest SML prices. It's 120 pesos; and 90 during happy hour.
If you have time, you'll find some 3-400 $ beauties in Vegas, but not off the street, is going to be around 2 am at the lounge bar in Harrah's, or on line, but is going to be a shitty short experience, or a LVPD sting and you may end up in jail, and divorced / fired / in the news. Also you most likely get drugged and robbed, or with your bank accounts drained, without even knowing for a few weeks. An "overpaid" AC experience will cost you in Vegas many thousands of dollars, therefore I never complained much about the recently doubled prices in AC. Of course I'm not crazy and I would like the prices to stay on the low side, but when I have no choice and I pay a 5 K BF, I always remember what the alternative would be back home, and I smile.
In the mean time I congratulate myself, and the fellow mongerers in SEA knowing that in USA only the super rich and famous have GFs in their 20's.Some AC barfines are 3. 5 k. One bar has 3 k barfine for bar hopping girls only. How would they know if the girl hops into your bed or not?
People complain BF price are up over the years but don't complain that their pay or salaries have increased too!
FuriousGeorge
11-09-24, 04:37
Well that is sad to hear. The bar looks very cool from the videos I've seen, and the guy seems to legitimately want to create a cool vibe. I plan to check it out first thing.
I didn't had the opportunity to set foot inside Madona since they opened, but after reading this, I'm making sure to steer clear of it.
I don't see any reports about the newly opened Skin / Level 5, the bar owned by the guy from Rock 69. I did go there 4 times, once was too early, another time was too late, and the other 2 times the only customers were only me and my GF, but we didn't stay.
Old And Ugly
11-09-24, 10:47
Well that is sad to hear. The bar looks very cool from the videos I've seen, and the guy seems to legitimately want to create a cool vibe. I plan to check it out first thing.It looks ok, a little bit too much bluish / violet lightning for my taste (I always associate that color with cheap chinese stuff) but since I don't care about the lights as much as I care about the girls, it didn't really matter, the problem was that there were no girls in sight. Of course I will go back there on my next AC visit to give it another try, probably they were all 10's and already barfined, if they were handpicked by the owner when hired, you can tell he has good taste by looking at his GF.
Dark Knight1
11-09-24, 13:19
Chocha clean out PM Box Bro can't reply to your message.
Skins Gentlemen Club: I was here at 8:30 pm this past Saturday. It's on the 3rd and 4th floor of that building in the middle of Walking Street. It's just a go-go bar. Talent was average. Around 7 girls on stage; maybe 7 other girls hanging out. Not that many customers. But the decor is nice. There are 2 cages on the upstairs floor that would be nice if there were girls dancing in them. It would be a fantastic club if there were a lot of girls there. In the elevator up, another customer said it gets busy later in the night. But I'm assuming that's just with other customers. Don't think there would be more girls that come. I was told the barfine is 5 K and a ladydrink is 375 pesos. It was 120 pesos for an SML.
Carousel: I was told the barfine for the spotlight girls is 5 K and 4 K for the normal girls. I think it was 150 for an SML. It seems the SMLs at the Western bars are 150.
Avalon: Most packed I've seen. Many girls on stage. Most of the customers on that night were Westerners. 150 for an SML. Avalon and XS doesn't have Korean papasans.
Q Bar: Empty. Didn't go in.
Shooters: I like Shooters. Western bar. I think it was 150 for an SML. You can buy a ladydrink for the girl and fondle them as much as you want (of course, it depends on the girl).
Observation from a very small sample: It seems there are less people making it rain. Only saw it once in Bacarra; didn't see it at XS in a few visits. My theory is that it's because they got rid of the 20 peso bills. If you want to use the 50 peso bill, it will be 2.5 times more expensive.
Old And Ugly
11-10-24, 10:19
Skins Gentlemen Club: I was here at 8:30 pm this past Saturday. It's on the 3rd and 4th floor of that building in the middle of Walking Street. It's just a go-go bar. Talent was average. Around 7 girls on stage; maybe 7 other girls hanging out. Not that many customers. But the decor is nice. There are 2 cages on the upstairs floor that would be nice if there were girls dancing in them. It would be a fantastic club if there were a lot of girls there. In the elevator up, another customer said it gets busy later in the night. But I'm assuming that's just with other customers. Don't think there would be more girls that come. I was told the barfine is 5 K and a ladydrink is 375 pesos. It was 120 pesos for an SML.
Carousel: I was told the barfine for the spotlight girls is 5 K and 4 K for the normal girls. I think it was 150 for an SML. It seems the SMLs at the Western bars are 150.
Avalon: Most packed I've seen. Many girls on stage. Most of the customers on that night were Westerners. 150 for an SML. Avalon and XS doesn't have Korean papasans.
Q Bar: Empty. Didn't go in.
Shooters: I like Shooters. Western bar. I think it was 150 for an SML. You can buy a ladydrink for the girl and fondle them as much as you want (of course, it depends on the girl).
Observation from a very small sample: It seems there are less people making it rain. Only saw it once in Bacarra; didn't see it at XS in a few visits. My theory is that it's because they got rid of the 20 peso bills. If you want to use the 50 peso bill, it will be 2.5 times more expensive.I didn't know that 20 p bills don't exist anymore, but now that you mentioned it, I realized that I didn't see any for a while, and I use the 20's frequently because on our island any trike ride is only 20 p. I guess I transitioned to coins unknowingly.
I didn't know that 20 p bills don't exist anymore, but now that you mentioned it, I realized that I didn't see any for a while, and I use the 20's frequently because on our island any trike ride is only 20 p. I guess I transitioned to coins unknowingly.When did they drop the 20 peso paper bills? I was there until the end of July and they were plentiful. I brought some back with me so I have petty cash when I arrive next time even.
I didn't know that 20 p bills don't exist anymore, but now that you mentioned it, I realized that I didn't see any for a while, and I use the 20's frequently because on our island any trike ride is only 20 p. I guess I transitioned to coins unknowingly.I miswrote. I should have written, they stopped making new 20 peso bills.
I can't get stacks of 20 peso bills from my hotel; only 50 peso bills.
Of course 20 peso bills are still in circulation; still accepted.
When did they drop the 20 peso paper bills?According to Wiki, they released the 20 peso coin in the first quarter of 2020. They stopped printing the 20 peso bill in 2023.
The 20 peso bills should be legal tender forever, but most of them will eventually go out of circulation due to wear and tear.
WestCoast1
11-10-24, 11:15
My theory is that it's because they got rid of the 20 peso bills. If you want to use the 50 peso bill, it will be 2.5 times more expensive.
I didn't know that 20 p bills don't exist anymore, but now that you mentioned it, I realized that I didn't see any for a while, and I use the 20's frequently because on our island any trike ride is only 20 p. I guess I transitioned to coins unknowingly.
When did they drop the 20 peso paper bills? I was there until the end of July and they were plentiful. I brought some back with me so I have petty cash when I arrive next time even.They didn't. I still get and use them frequently.
Its possible that GB was referring to the particular bar not utilizing them for 'making it rain', or maybe the bar gives coins back to the customer in place of p20 notes. GB?
They didn't. I still get and use them frequently.
Its possible that GB was referring to the particular bar not utilizing them for 'making it rain', or maybe the bar gives coins back to the customer in place of p20 notes. GB?I miswrote. Instead of writing "they got rid of the 20 peso bill", I should have written "they stopped printing new 20 peso bills". 20 peso bills are still in circulation. But fairly certain you cannot get stacks of 20 peso bills from either the bank or the go-go bar.
In the old days, I saw some Koreans have stacks of 20 peso bills in their fanny pack / chest pack. It seems they brought the 20 peso bills from their own source.
Atlantis (when it was popular) used to charge you a fee to get the 20 peso bills to make it rain. The manager said he did that because the banks would charge him to get the huge amounts of 20 pesos bills required each night; then he charged his customers.
WestCoast1
11-10-24, 12:34
I miswrote. Instead of writing "they got rid of the 20 peso bill", I should have written "they stopped printing new 20 peso bills". 20 peso bills are still in circulation. But fairly certain you cannot get stacks of 20 peso bills from either the bank or the go-go bar.
Atlantis (when it was popular) used to charge you a fee to get the 20 peso bills to make it rain. The manager said he did that because the banks would charge him to get the huge amounts of 20 pesos bills required each night; then he charged his customers.Not sure about AC, but just before Covid hit, I was in Makati. One night in a Burgos bar some guy was tossing some bills on the ground and the girls scrambled to get them. I rolled up two p50 notes into little balls and tossed them on the floor in different directions to see if the girls would dive in one direction, then the other. They did. Another gogo girl walking by stopped and told me that I needed to 'get the script'. What? She dashed off and a moment later the waitress came over with some white small papers the size of a p20/ p50 note, folded and with a rubber band. What's this? "You want to throw money you throw the script sir". Really? "Yes. This script 50 pesos each is 500 pesos". She peeled one off and showed me. It looked a bit like a fake p50 note. I pulled out p500 and gave it to the waitress, she gave me the packet of fake p50's, and I tossed them up in the air. The squealing lasted 10 seconds. My good / bad deed for the day. The original gogo girl who told me that I needed to 'get the script' had grabbed two of them. "I got fifty pesos!" Filipina math. Sweetness I think you got 100 (two notes). "No its 25 pesos to the girl each script". No! The house keeps half? "Yes". Imagine ripping off your own po gals.
Not sure about AC, but just before Covid hit, I was in Makati. One night in a Burgos bar some guy was tossing some bills on the ground and the girls scrambled to get them. I rolled up two p50 notes into little balls and tossed them on the floor in different directions to see if the girls would dive in one direction, then the other. They did. Another gogo girl walking by stopped and told me that I needed to 'get the script'. What? She dashed off and a moment later the waitress came over with some white small papers the size of a p20/ p50 note, folded and with a rubber band. What's this? "You want to throw money you throw the script sir". Really? "Yes. This script 50 pesos each is 500 pesos". She peeled one off and showed me. It looked a bit like a fake p50 note. I pulled out p500 and gave it to the waitress, she gave me the packet of fake p50's, and I tossed them up in the air. The squealing lasted 10 seconds. My good / bad deed for the day. The original gogo girl who told me that I needed to 'get the script' had grabbed two of them. "I got fifty pesos!" Filipina math. Sweetness I think you got 100 (two notes). "No its 25 pesos to the girl each script". No! The house keeps half? "Yes". Imagine ripping off your own po gals.This is what the ping pong balls are for in the bars. Or the bell. Honestly I forget where I saw them, it may have been thailand or AC, but there quite often may be a plastic jar of ping pong balls that you can toss and each represents a fixed amount money, which I always assumed to be shared with the house. Its basically "the script". I never really understood this. Why would anyone ever ring the bell or throw the balls, I guess you do get your name written on the wall. Hahha, I would never want my name up there. What would happen if you don't use the script? Will they throw you out? F' them. As many have said before, its your money, do what you want with it.
Old And Ugly
11-10-24, 16:17
This is what the ping pong balls are for in the bars. Or the bell. Honestly I forget where I saw them, it may have been thailand or AC, but there quite often may be a plastic jar of ping pong balls that you can toss and each represents a fixed amount money, which I always assumed to be shared with the house. Its basically "the script". I never really understood this. Why would anyone ever ring the bell or throw the balls, I guess you do get your name written on the wall. Hahha, I would never want my name up there. What would happen if you don't use the script? Will they throw you out? F' them. As many have said before, its your money, do what you want with it.Some bars still have the ping pong balls, you toss them to see the girls fighting for them. Personally I never did it, but I saw it happened many times. I prefer to reward a good dancer or one that's constantly smiling at me with a 100 p bill when I leave, and I feel good about it, especially when thinking of the bitter Karrens back home, and how here 2 $ buys you a nice, sometimes sincere smile. (I do have this obsession of constantly remembering the alternative of living in the west, and I get a happiness boost every single time).
WestCoast1
11-10-24, 16:50
Not sure about AC, but just before Covid hit, I was in Makati. One night in a Burgos bar some guy was tossing some bills on the ground and the girls scrambled to get them.
Some bars still have the ping pong balls, you toss them to see the girls fighting for them. Personally I never did it, but I saw it happened many times.
This is what the ping pong balls are for in the bars. Or the bell. Honestly I forget where I saw them, it may have been thailand or AC, but there quite often may be a plastic jar of ping pong balls that you can toss and each represents a fixed amount money, which I always assumed to be shared with the house. Its basically "the script". I never really understood this. Why would anyone ever ring the bell or throw the balls, I guess you do get your name written on the wall. Hahha, I would never want my name up there. What would happen if you don't use the script? Will they throw you out? F' them. As many have said before, its your money, do what you want with it.I was talking about Burgos. No idea what would happen if you didn't use the script. They just want to encourage you to do it so the bar can make more money.
I remember the ping pong balls specifically in Body Shop and I think Butterfly Rock and others back in the day. A few hundred pesos and you could toss the ping pong balls. Saw guys do it several times a week. Guys do things when drunk. Agree about ringing the bell, but some of those bars had 100 names on the wall for ringin' the bell, so there was some draw for it.
A good few years back 2006 18 years ago I visited Angeles for the first time and met an American he told me the best place to go is a Korean owned venue it was quite big I remember the green colour on the sign I think where the girls do a dance show he said the best girls are there. I can't remember the name of the place but if someone mentions a name It might help me remember.
I went there every day.
There was also another place which was he main place I go for girls it was big i ember there was a stage that’s move up and down with girls on it or am I dreaming?
I think this was back when the Koreans first started to take over.
I stayed in the swiss chalet is that still on the go?
Regards.
Old And Ugly
11-10-24, 20:40
A good few years back 2006 18 years ago I visited angeles for the first time and met an American he told me the best place to go is a Korean owned venue it was quite big I remember the green colour on the sign I think where the girls do a dance show he said the best girls are there. I can't remember the name of the place but if someone mentions a name It might help me remember.
I went there every day.
There was also another place which was he main place I go for girls it was big i ember there was a stage thats move up and down with girls on it or am I dreaming?
I think this was back when the Koreans first started to take over.
I stayed in the swiss chalet is that still on the go?
Regards.
The.Swiss Chalet still there, never slept there but I used to eat there when the schweinehaxe on the menu was baked, not fried, I did gave it another try few weeks ago, but still disappointing.
I don't remember any stage that was going up and down, but the Carousel stage is spinning.
I think Phillies used to have a green sign long time ago, but there were no girls dancing, only the waitresses, and they used to have a band, now replaced by a big screen tv.
The koreans started the take over more recently, maybe 10 years ago, before that you could rarely see one on walking street, and you could tell the he was feeling out of place.
Blue Nile was the only bar with the stage going up and down in 2006. It was impressive.
A good few years back 2006 18 years ago I visited angeles for the first time and met an American he told me the best place to go is a Korean owned venue it was quite big I remember the green colour on the sign I think where the girls do a dance show he said the best girls are there. I can't remember the name of the place but if someone mentions a name It might help me remember.
I went there every day.
There was also another place which was he main place I go for girls it was big i ember there was a stage thats move up and down with girls on it or am I dreaming?
I think this was back when the Koreans first started to take over.
I stayed in the swiss chalet is that still on the go?
Regards.
The.
Old And Ugly
11-10-24, 22:27
Blue Nile was the only bar with the stage going up and down in 2006. It was impressive.Where was Blue Nile located? I remember the name, but not much else.
Is it this one from my old pics?
I also remember heart breaker bar is that still on the go?
I'm Thinking the Korean owned place it was big but not many girls inside and definitely Korean owned I'm thinking the name was XS or Anastasia something like that?
They had the best looking girls in there.
Most guys went to another place that was very popular I went there on my last day and there was a upper level that had more classier girls maybe even freelance I'm not sure.
Any idea what that one was called it was a big place.
WestCoast1
11-11-24, 04:57
Where was Blue Nile located? I remember the name, but not much else.
Is it this one from my old pics?I think that pic is the facade of one of the Real St bars, Tropix or such in that area.
Blue Nile was on WS, located approximately where the current Baccara / Gold Moon / Elite bars are.
Old And Ugly
11-11-24, 10:51
I think that pic is the facade of one of the Real St bars, Tropix or such in that area.
Blue Nile was on WS, located approximately where the current Baccara / Gold Moon / Elite bars are.It's all fuzzy memories, back then I was still going to rio de janeiro a lot. The most vivid memory is my first night in AC when I was drugged by 2 girls, but not all the way.
I got one from a bar, and we met one of her friends on the street, then we went to 7/11 to get rum and coke, one of them bought something from a guy sitting in front of 7/11, and that sounded an alarm in my head. I was staying at a place that's now a clinic near the mc donalds end of WS, there was no reception, only a security guy standing outside. Once in the room I was following their actions, because they insisted on preparing the drinks, probably they had magicians skills because I didn't see when they did it. Anyway I was just pretending to drink, at some point I went to the toilet and poured half my drink down the drain. When they saw that I wasn't passing out, they kept childishly insisting to drink some more, I was thinking that I'm going to fuck their brains out with no mercy, and started to undress them, but I started feeling dizzy, probably only from the pretending to drink contact with the drug, not a lot, but enough to make me worry, I told them that my stomach hurts, and we have to do it some other day, and asked them to leave. They were disappointed, but complied, since I wasn't 100% sure it was the drug or jetlag, and didn't knowing what to do about it anyway, I just lost the BF, which was extremely cheap back then. After they left, I barricaded the door and felt asleep like a log, like I never slept before, that confirmed my suspicions. Next day I woke up with revenge plans in mind, but after the drug induced sleep, and being my first time in AC, I couldn't remember from which bar I got the BF, so I just gave up.
After that I had the time of my life there, culminating with a 5 girl BJ in a bar I think it was on perimeter, in the open, for free, with no customers but with the door unlocked (that kept popping up in my head, not being interested in exibitionism), just because after closing time when I walked in with the girl that was with me for a few days already to visit her barmaid friend to pass time I kept buying regular drinks for the 3 dancers, the bartender friend and my girl. They got drunk, kept jocking, one dancer got my dick out, another one pulled my pants down, while I was sitting on a bar stool, all three started doing some sort of competition BJ, with the other 2 cheering, and finally joining in.
Those are my first memories of AC, and maybe still the wildest ones (the 5 XBJ in the open).
LoveItHere69
11-11-24, 12:44
Blue Nile would have been to the left side of the old High Society with the stage or stages going up and down and girls dancing on every table and was the loudest bar. Next to it was Neros that became part of HISO. Above it was The Executive Club on the second floor. All 3 were connected with the Execute entrance inside Neros.
I remember the stages go up and down in Level 3 / Xanadu.
Heart Breaker became Crystal Palace. Crystal Palace kept the high red chairs that had hearts in the metal backrest of the chairs. Been closed for years.
Blue Nile would have been to the left side of the old High Society with the stage or stages going up and down and girls dancing on every table and was the loudest bar. Next to it was Neros that became part of HISO. Above it was The Executive Club on the second floor. All 3 were connected with the Execute entrance inside Neros.
I remember the stages go up and down in Level 3 / Xanadu.
Heart Breaker became Crystal Palace. Crystal Palace kept the high red chairs that had hearts in the metal backrest of the chairs. Been closed for years.Thanks so much has changed and for the worst going by the reports on here.
NapaSlapper
11-12-24, 10:39
Swiss Chalet still there, never slept there but I used to eat there when the schweinehaxe on the menu was baked, not fried, I did gave it another try few weeks ago, but still disappointing.
I don't remember any stage that was going up and down, but the Carousel stage is spinning.
I think Phillies used to have a green sign long time ago, but there were no girls dancing, only the waitresses, and they used to have a band, now replaced by a big screen tv.
The koreans started the take over more recently, maybe 10 years ago, before that you could rarely see one on walking street, and you could tell the he was feeling out of place.Enyone claiming that the koreans have not completely taken over angeles city is dreaming.
Any bar that has any half decent slim ok looking younger girls working there is a korean bar, any guys with half decent looking girls sitting with them in the bar or on their arm heading home or in one of the late night dance clubs are koreans.
The koreans are also buying up every single available hotel, bar, club, restaurant, shop and to top it all off they even have their own police force and their own bar girl home delivery service by van.
The angeles take over by the koreans is complete, westerners are reduced to fucking the old, chubby, ugly girls the koreans don't want in truth, it is what it is comes to mind.
Blue Nile would have been to the left side of the old High Society with the stage or stages going up and down and girls dancing on every table......The last time I visited Angeles city was in 2007. I recall Blue Nile was amazing as was Honeypot. Any bars to compare to those now?
Expat American
11-12-24, 16:17
The last time I visited Angeles city was in 2007. I recall Blue Nile was amazing as was Honeypot. Any bars to compare to those now?Is anything in the world similar to 2007? So obviously, no.
LoveItHere69
11-12-24, 17:14
Banana Q: Plantain (banana family) cooked a little bit while covered in carmelized sugar on a stick. Side street behind Kokomos across from the trikes. Day time only. 25 P.
Banana shoots: Banana flower cut up and cooked. Rare and hard to find. Shop across from Pacific Breeze on Vian Street. Not always there because they rotate dishes. Ask them when. Pick out the few shrimp heads and peppers. 60 p. Rice 20 p.
Lumpia Togue (beansprouts): At SM Hypermart past the bakery on the corner. Comes with packet of vinegar. Greasy. 25 p.
555 Tuna (Bicol Express): Coconut based sauce. Slightly hot. Pick out peppers. Different stores. 50 p.
Panda Coco: Bread with shredded sweetened coconut inside. Most bakeries carry this. WARNING: sometimes they miss a small piece of the brown coconut shell that can easily crack a tooth. Bakery across from J. J. 's has cinnamon rolls and banana bread but taste is good one time and just ok the next. Depends on who is making it.
Gulaman Tea: Very sweet odd taste. Tastes nothing like any tea that I have ever drank. It is a love it or hate it drink like beer, root beer, Dr. Pepper. 10 P street cart across from Norma's money changer or 30-40 p inside SM Hypermart at one of the food stalls.
Coconut juice or coconut shake: 1 liter juice is 70 p and shake is 80 p. Walking Street across from Paradise Garden until 2 am. Sister site near the old ACE or Brown Sugar bar. Closes 8 pm.
Avocado ice cream: Middle section of SM mall. I eat the cone for 35 p a short walk outside Hypermart.
Cucumber lemonade: 7-11. Behind self serve hotdogs. Refreshing. No lemonade taste to me. I like the cucumber taste. Get ice near the soda fountain drinks because really sweet. Iced coffee is also good.
WARNING: All rice. Especially not in a restaurant. Chipped 2 teeth in the past eating rice from street food stalls. Bought a 5 kg /11 lb bag of rice at Hypermart and found 3 small rocks. Next time bought another bag and found 1 small rock inside the bag. That itty bitty rock the size of a pin head can destroy your teeth.
Papi's Street Food. I asked the waitress what was the best of the 3 things I picked. She said the meatball sandwich so I ordered it. The guy next to me said the food there is really good and had eaten several items. It sucked. No flavor. No spices or seasoning mixed into the meatball. It was just a ball of plain meat. I drowned it in mustard sauce that was sitting in front of me. The red tomato sauce had no flavor to me. I told the guy next to me and he said he had never tried it.
No piece of mind. Nobody can just leave me the hell alone.
Doggy Doo.
I leave a waterfall and start walking to town. Obviously it is a pretty rural area but I always find someone going to town and hitch a ride. So I hear someone cutting down a tree with a chainsaw. The hillside is steep with dense with trees and other plant life. I looked up for a short distance to make sure some tree does not fall on my head. Step in dog shit. Even the dogs are retarded here. All the dogs I had always did their business in the grass. No need to train that. But Filipino dogs are retarded shitting in the street out in the countryside. Amazing! I like to walk and always had to watch my step in the city of Bangued and on the side streets of Angeles.
Homeless people.
Bangued city. Not many food options so ate at McDonalds twice. OMG the beef was so thin it was either held together with glue or they pressed it together using a hydraulic press. Kids standing outside the doors bothering everyone. Every 15 minutes one comes in pretending to use the bathroom and always bothering customers on their way out. Sometimes they sat on the chairs inside for 5-10 minutes staring at the customers walking by. Cleaning person and security guard do nothing. I talked to the manager. Yes, I know nothing will change. I want to be left the hell alone when I am eating.
Angeles City homeless kids opening the doors at the 7-11 asking for money. Following guys walking with a girl asking for money. Watched one kid bother the foreigner with his girl for half a block before the guy pushed the kid with his forearm. He had reached his limit.
Trikes.
I must have the 'I am lost' and 'I am lazy' aura because the trike drivers never shut up anywhere in this country. I see them. No need for them to call out to me every time they see a foreigner pass by.
Going to starve to death. Out of stock.
Bangued city.
I can never get what I want. Went to one of those shacks that sell the cheap mystery meat burgers and hot dogs. I like the egg sandwich with a slice of sandwich ham. Simply amazing how many times they are out of eggs that are sold everywhere, and I do mean everywhere.
Daphne's Milk Tea and Pizza. They do not sell pizza at all and they were out of milk tea when I went there. The LAB Pizza. 4 pictures of food on Google Maps. Not one picture of pizza. The only coconut shake place I was told about and tried had no milk and no coconut in the drink. It was a powdered coconut drink. Found a pizza place. The girl was helping another group of 4. Nobody else there. Ignored me for 10 minutes. I got up and told her she ignored me for 10 minutes. Not even saying HI to acknowledge I was even there. People say maybe she did not know English. She was 22+. It is taught in all schools in the Philippines. The menu was in English. All I had to do is point to what I wanted. Amazing I somehow did not starve to death in Colombia when I was there and have zero Spanish and had less problems there getting what I wanted.
Angeles City. Purple Thai Pad in SM mall. Went 6 times to eat papaya salad but only ate it twice because always out of stock.
Gabacho: Filipino food is mostly considered crap food by foreigners. Mostly because of the very low quality of meat and secondly the other ingredients. Rare to find a Filipino restaurant in other countries. You pointed out Jollibee has may restaurants worldwide. I know that. But Jollibee is a Filipino company with a maximum of only 10% of their menu being associated as Filipino. They are mostly burgers, fries, fried chicken, hot dogs, mushroom gravy on burger on rice, sundaes, and peach-mango pies. That is not Filipino food.
Stupid Stupid Girls.
Seen this girl several times here and there through the years. Always does the "mom is waiting for me" or "hurry". Once I turned her right back around when she entered my room and told her to go home. Told her I hated the idea of her poor mom having to wait for her and felt bad. Did she learn? Answer: she is Filipina so guess what happened the next year I came to town?
Next girl I had once or twice 5 years ago. She was so happy to see me again she wanted to meet the next day. I wanted her to pick the time so more likely she would be on time. She chose 11 am but too early for me so she chose 1 pm. Then she promised 1:20. Then it was raining but only where she was and not outside my hotel, She would wash her clothes. I cancelled. Two days later give her another chance because she is a short, very thin, and very young looking girl. Comes 30 minutes early. Do the deed but still horny so offer double sex double pay (3000 p including trike fare). But she does not want. Yet she was begging me she needed money by text just a few hours prior. WTF? Gets better. She had a bag of clothes. Nicer than the ones she wore to visit me. So I told her she did not want second round because she has another guest waiting for her. Another WTF moment. So next day she is begging again and offers two rounds at 3 pm. I leave the day after so say ok. 10 minutes later she wants 6 pm. I told her good bye. I let her choose the times and she can not seem to keep the times that SHE had chosen. Obviously, her money situation is not so dire. 3 days later never replied to her Facebook messages.
The end.
I may return to Luzon one last time to visit a waterfall one last time next year but will bypass Angeles City. Land in Manila and take bus from there. 15 years ago I swore I would retire there. Now it is dead to me. Just a shell of its past. Walking down Walking Street feels like walking into a cemetery and seeing ghosts of the fun girls from the past. It feels like the life has been sucked out of it. Walking past the old Heart Breaker bar (later Crystal Palace). I stop and stare at the building for a few minutes from time to time and remember the past. It nearly breaks my own heart. First bar and first bar fine. Short spinner with big rack sitting at the door as I thought I was was leaving alone but was mistaken.
I never went into the Owl's Nest. About 13? Years ago at their old location near Typhoon / Monsoon they had Sunshine. I bet at least 50 guys here will remember Sunshine. Impossible to forget even if she was not your type. She was the door girl there for a year or more. Hard body with flat flat tummy, deep Coke bottle shape, big boobs, very loud girl, but a 4 butterface. But she was so lively and crazy fun just to mess with. She chased guys down the street to try to get them into the Owl's Nest. Played pool with her at Doll House. She wore one of her tight boob popping shirts and her short booty shorts. She would bend over the table showing all the guys the tops of her boobs in front of her and the crease of the bottom of her ass for the guys behind her. We made a game of it and I played the stupid newbie. I told her I would pretend to go to the CR (bathroom) or go get a drink and disappear. Her job was to flirt and see how many guy's phone numbers she could get while I was "gone". No idea how many numbers she got. I think of her and want to cry again because you and I will never see someone like her working the bars ever again. The fun crazy girls do not exist anymore. Good God what I wouldn't give to have Sunshine with me today and go into all the Korean bars and show all the girls there what a true party girl is because that girl had no filter and flaunted all her business assets. I learned that walking in SM mall with her. She was conservatively dressed. I told her she had to stop because everyone was staring because of the things she was saying. Funny now but not so much then.
You can still have fun at the bars. But I can not. I can not stop the visions in my head of the girls past compared to the girls present in the bars. No comparison and it is ruining my fond memories of the past which I would like to keep.
Delbo1. Comparing Angeles from your last visit. The number of girls is nearly half. Double the princess attitude. 10-15% fatter. Average age is 15% higher. Girls have half the party fun attitude. Twice the amount of clothes on stage. The girls on stage at so many bars went from dancing, to the shuffle, to standing, to sitting playing on their phones. The Korean bars play some Western songs that have the wrong beat and have been sped up. The voices sound like the cartoon characters from "The Chipmunks". I will be banned if I say how I really feel about the Koreans.
Turgid. Sorry I can not answer. I can only tell you to go to the western bars and you only have a few years left to do so before the Koreans own everything. There are still some hotties available but that number is shrinking every year for sure.
..I bet at least 50 guys here will remember Sunshine. Impossible to forget even if she was not your type...
I can not stop the visions in my head of the girls past compared to the girls present in the bars. No comparison and it is ruining my fond memories of the past which I would like to keep...Love It,
It's time to move on. I understand exactly what you are saying but it's impossible to relive the past and complaining about the current situation, while true, achieves nothing. I've tried to contact old flames and relive past memories and it's never the same. If anything, they become negative experiences, a mile away from what we are trying to recreate. Best to just remember the great times of the past, adapt to the new and make new memories.
I'm not chasing pole dancers and partying to 5 am any more but I definitely enjoyed my last trip, all be it for different reasons.
Enjoy. G.
Love It,
It's time to move on. I understand exactly what you are saying but it's impossible to relive the past and complaining about the current situation, while true, achieves nothing. I've tried to contact old flames and relive past memories and it's never the same. If anything, they become negative experiences, a mile away from what we are trying to recreate. Best to just remember the great times of the past, adapt to the new and make new memories.
I'm not chasing pole dancers and partying to 5 am any more but I definitely enjoyed my last trip, all be it for different reasons.
Enjoy. G.As someone with both a historical appreciation and clear eyes, what would you recommend as the approach for a first timer to AC, as it exists now? Assume I am only staying for a few days, and not someone who has time to cultivate relationships over months.
Thanks in advance!
As someone with both a historical appreciation and clear eyes, what would you recommend as the approach for a first timer to AC, as it exists now? Assume I am only staying for a few days, and not someone who has time to cultivate relationships over months.
Thanks in advance!Everyone's tastes are different. However, if we assume you 1/ are committed to visiting AC* and 2/ prefer bars and barfines, then I would spend your few days spanning a weekend, go bar hopping along walking street. Forget about Perimeter bars and BJ bars. You don't have time to sort the good from the bad. Note that the normal lead time for online girls is much shorter in AC than other cities so have a Pina Love subscription paid and ready to go should you not find anything you like in the bars, strike out any particular night, want a midday infill or are just want a girl to drop around now. There is no need to start messaging days or weeks before you arrive. Only make contact when you are in town.
Note that I'm not an AC expert. Actually I hate and actively avoid the place. Others with much more recent experience may disagree with me or have another recommendations.
Enjoy. G.
*Many would argue to just stay the extra days in Makati or even go to Pattaya rather than AC.
Expat American
11-15-24, 06:41
As someone with both a historical appreciation and clear eyes, what would you recommend as the approach for a first timer to AC, as it exists now? Assume I am only staying for a few days, and not someone who has time to cultivate relationships over months.
Thanks in advance!Simple, don't expect a cheap fuck. If you are able to open your wallet, you will find good looking girls to fuck. You will pay over $100 for ST each time but you will get it. If you are coming expecting a low cost high quality experience, you will be disappointed.
Simple, don't expect a cheap fuck. If you are able to open your wallet, you will find good looking girls to fuck. You will pay over $100 for ST each time but you will get it. If you are coming expecting a low cost high quality experience, you will be disappointed.Haha. Cheap fucks were the only reason to ever visit Angeles City. Don't tell me you were going to Angeles for the Gourmet food! Or even better, maybe you were going for the famous local attractions! Have you seen SM Mall? It's incredible.
Sarcasm aside. If you're paying $100 usd for ST, just stay in Manila, better talent.
Haha. Cheap fucks were the only reason to ever visit Angeles City....The reasons are slowly fading away.
Fun and slim 19 yos left decades ago.
Cheap fucks left years ago.
A few recent report have even had girls turning their noses up at bareback.
G.
A few recent report have even had girls turning their noses up at bareback.
G.There should be protest marches about that, riots even. I did a 3 some with two chancers who refused to do bareback and even stole my condoms. One of their cousins, a nurse, told them about STIs. Most 3 somes are only a con to get double payment but that is another story.
I am in a minority position as I believe cheap fucks are there for those of us with game. Walking St is just a tourist dive with the same component parts of any tourist trap. Why should you expect cheap bonks there? I think there are three ways forward:
1, More intensive digging. Poverty in the Phils is still out of control, so whoring must be too.
2. Find out where the hookers hold up. Waking St is a small part of Angeles and the locals are not paying "tourist prices".
3. The third one escapes me for now but there are lots of women doing small paying jobs there. I am not saying any of them want to be hookers but, if you have game and will put in the work as I still do, all things are possible. As for the go go bars, you can keep them.
For those of you who are old and with no game, get real. The only thing that talks with you is your wallet and, like your pecker, that has lost its bite. Shit happens.
There should be protest marches about that, riots even. I did a 3 some with two chancers who refused to do bareback and even stole my condoms. One of their cousins, a nurse, told them about STIs. Most 3 somes are only a con to get double payment but that is another story.
I am in a minority position as I believe cheap fucks are there for those of us with game. Walking St is just a tourist dive with the same component parts of any tourist trap. Why should you expect cheap bonks there? I think there are three ways forward:
1, More intensive digging. Poverty in the Phils is still out of control, so whoring must be too.
2. Find out where the hookers hold up. Waking St is a small part of Angeles and the locals are not paying "tourist prices".
3. The third one escapes me for now but there are lots of women doing small paying jobs there. I am not saying any of them want to be hookers but, if you have game and will put in the work as I still do, all things are possible. As for the go go bars, you can keep them.
For those of you who are old and with no game, get real. The only thing that talks with you is your wallet and, like your pecker, that has lost its bite. Shit happens.Are you suggesting that there are girls available in AC outside the bars? Girls that aren't paid to suck as much dick as humanly possible every night?? That's just pure heresy. 😜.
4/ Go elsewhere. There are '000's of cities in the PI who will welcome guys with open legs.
You are preaching to the converted. Check my latest trip report. I complained about over paying 2 k for overnight or 3 shots and I'm exactly as you describe: old, ugly and no game what so ever.
Enjoy. G.
Are you suggesting that there are girls available in AC outside the bars? Girls that aren't paid to suck as much dick as humanly possible every night?? That's just pure heresy. 😜.
4/ Go elsewhere. There are '000's of cities in the PI who will welcome guys with open legs.
You are preaching to the converted. Check my latest trip report. I complained about over paying 2 k for overnight or 3 shots and I'm exactly as you describe: old, ugly and no game what so ever.
Enjoy. G.Walking St is a tourist trap. Cheap women with bright lights and big prices. Move away from the bright lights and it is different. WS= tourist mark up. Non tourist places in Angeles and elsewhere have different paces and price structures. Why are there not other red light districts in AC? Because the big boys wasnt it that way, contained.
As regards Goferring's lack of game, that might apply in Korea's Little dick land but elsewherre no. He the man.
Last time, a digital nomad in AC told me you can buy sex sslaves in rural Visayas, the families are that poor. Not recommending it but there is poverty we cannt imagine aplenty and that feeds the sex industry, along with other things.
ACis tourism and ocnvenience. We pay for that, even in shit holes.
Old And Ugly
11-19-24, 17:46
Are you suggesting that there are girls available in AC outside the bars? Girls that aren't paid to suck as much dick as humanly possible every night?? That's just pure heresy. 😜.
4/ Go elsewhere. There are '000's of cities in the PI who will welcome guys with open legs.
You are preaching to the converted. Check my latest trip report. I complained about over paying 2 k for overnight or 3 shots and I'm exactly as you describe: old, ugly and no game what so ever.
Enjoy. G.I'm even older and uglier than you, so much more that I had to use it as my handle here. Usually when a guy is arrogant here in the virtual world, he is the same in real life, also when interacting with the girls, and as you know, karma works in mysterious ways, it always hits you back.
NapaSlapper
11-20-24, 09:42
As someone with both a historical appreciation and clear eyes, what would you recommend as the approach for a first timer to AC, as it exists now? Assume I am only staying for a few days, and not someone who has time to cultivate relationships over months.
Thanks in advance!Hi, I am assuming you are a westerner and as such it is still possible to get laid in angeles gogo bars, all one has to do is greatly lower ones expectations on what's available to mr westerner here. Head to the western oriented bars of walking st, geckos bar, masquare bar, lollipop bar, champagne bar, buy yourself a drink, buy a few drinks for the girls, ask about barfine directly with the girl, if girl agrees then off you go, fully expect most girls to bolt after the 1st pop, girl may or may not insist on a condom, may or may not give head or allow pussy sucking regardless of what was agreed to in the bar prior, girls in western bars tend to be, older, fatter and plain in looks.
If one is looking for younger slimmer fairly ok looking girls than what can be found in western bars then such can only be found in korean oriented bars of walking street, as a westerner in a korean bar fully expect to be ignored when trying to get the attention of any of the lookers here, why, well the lookers only drink, fuck with koreans, its not a matter of a westerner having game, being ok looking, offering to pay as much as the koreans, its simply the girls are racist in as much as they have no interest in westerners at all but lots of interest in koreans.
If one is already in manila then making an angeles visit is pointless if one is in the least fussy in girls, better to just pay a bit more in manila where the girls are far more pleasing on the eye.
Happy mongering and let us know what you chose.
NapaSlapper
11-20-24, 11:30
Madonna again raised their prices. They added another level to their barfines. The barfines are now 6 K, 7 K, 10 K, and 12 K. I was there at 6:30 pm today. The 12 K girls wear gold dresses. I was told there are 5 of them. The one remaining wasn't that good. Curious about the other 4.
At Madonna, the ladydrinks went up to 550 pesos. The SML went up to 250 pesos.
The good thing about Madonna is that they guarantee the girls will stay until the morning.
I am assuming the prices at the other Korean went up also. But I generally don't like to go barhopping in the Korean bars. They generally have higher prices, and the girls wear dresses. In Baccara (a Korean bar), an SML is now 200 pesos.
On a side note, the price of an SML went from 140 to 150 at Lollipop, Avalon, and XS. Barfine at Viking is now 5500 pesos.Madonna bar guarantee their girls stay long time? You do realise that prostitution is highly illegal in the phills and comes under the human trafficking act that carries a 20 year prison sentence and massive fine for any bar employing girls for prostitution, hence why barfines are called early work release, in as much the bars charges punters ewr for the girls lost time at the bar and at no time does a bar claim sex is included, take into account that almost all angeles bars have been raided and closed for even daring to show a naked breast in the recent past (including madonna bar raided and closed for simply no girl tag) and now we have claims of bars guaranteed girls stay long time, the mind boggles at some claims by your good self, it really does.
As far as 10,000 and 12,000 peso barfines at madonna bar then this has not been my and my drinking buddies experience at madonna bar over 20 odd visits to this bar with a latest visit of last night. Have bought multiple punter drinks, multiple lady drinks and korean friends have barfined most of the lookers in madonna for far far less than your claims.
Not sure why girls are quoting you such crazy prices, probably the girl just does not want to go with you and doubles her asking price to get rid of you.
Fellow board members, claims of bars guarantee their girls is just fantasy at best, want proof, try to return a non performing girl or early runner to a bar owner / manager and see what he says, might be something like get lost, no refunds, or sir read the human traffic laws to know why we don't sell pussy or guarantee anything.
I'll be in Angeles before the end of a month on an extended stay. Where could I buy or rent a cheap laptop especially for word processing but also for Internet surfing. Cost is a factor and I might give it away before I leave. I am not a lap top man usually. I have an old one but it is too heavy to bring.
If I had a cheap one I could type on for a few hours a day, that would be good, Might help keep me up to speed on go go prices too.
I will post my coments, observations etc after I leave Ph. Last time, I bought a pile of shit that is still largely unusued.
Transporter
11-22-24, 02:01
I'll be in Angeles before the end of a month on an extended stay. Where could I buy or rent a cheap laptop especially for word processing but also for Internet surfing. Cost is a factor and I might give it away before I leave. I am not a lap top man usually. I have an old one but it is too heavy to bring.
If I had a cheap one I could type on for a few hours a day, that would be good, Might help keep me up to speed on go go prices too.
I will post my coments, observations etc after I leave Ph. Last time, I bought a pile of shit that is still largely unusued.Unless there is something I have overlooked, you won't find cheap (branded) electronics in PI, it will be cheaper if you can purchase in the states. I have struggled with this for some time also, need a laptop to do some work but don't like to lug it around. When the mac air was launched I switched from windows to the air, and it worked fine, now there are a lot of cheaper windows laptops, but no where close to a disposable price in the light weight option. Currently and for the last few years I use a chromebook when traveling. As far as price, compact, weight, and battery life, it is hard to beat a chromebook type of laptop. If you are able to do what you need to on a chromebook type of laptop, I would suggest that as it is fairly disposable as far as pricing.
NapaSlapper
11-22-24, 03:37
Finally, we have concrete all the way down walking street, although the road is not pleasing on the eye at least it is fairly complete, there are very high curbs and low road surface and have seen a few drunks stumble at this, was fully expecting that pretty paving slabs would be added but according to those in the know its staying as is.
Masquarade bar top floor seating area is starting to take shape and will be a good addition to walking street and a chilled area to sit and people watch when complete.
The closed down envy bar at the mouth of walking street that had lots of money spent on it just before closing due to little customers looks like new renovations are under way, not sure of what it will be when completed but at least work has started.
The town is really slow for foreign tourist even though we have entered high season, many western bars are really slow with some no customers and very few girls when visited even the once popular lollipop bar and geckos bar were very quiet this past week.
As for the korean punters the numbers are also a little down during the week but swell greatly at weekends and the koreans greatly outnumber the westerners by a long long way on any night.
Atlantis bar, this bar was once the number 1 bar in angeles, not so any more where once there were 150 odd dancing girls we are now down to about 20,some chubby, some older and 2 girls just ok looking (both sat drinking with koreans already) 1 drink and left.
Q bar, although some say they see westerners here, on my multiple visits to QBar with friends I see very few westerners here at all but many asian punters, this past weeks visit saw me and another western friend as the only westerners, although it was not too busy the other customers were koreans, about 12 girls,2 girls just cute but no more, friend tried desperately to get their attention and was ignored by said girls, when 2 asians called them over they immediately went for drinks with the koreans,1 drink and left.
Madonna bar, yes back here yet again with Korean friends, its a nice modern bar, ice cold drinks and a few pretty girls (but nowhere near stunners) probably 25 odd girls, I was the only westerner in, stayed about an hour, our drinks 180 peso, lady drinks 350 peso, barfines 6,000 peso for the top girls, some girls drinks only and of those girls that will barfine unfortunately they are korean only girls.
Xs bar, this is without doubt the shining star of all of walking street by a long way, very busy with all asian punters, again I was the only westerner, great shows put on by attractive girls, attractive black tape girls, the korean manager is super friendly and always tries to give good seats and 1st drink on the house, westerners very welcome for a drink and watch the shows, many girls here are only show girls, many girls are drinks only, a couple of very cute cherry girls, of all the angeles bars Xs bar has the most and cutest girls, of course of the girls that do barfine they are mainly korean only girls with some girls even able to speak korean to a fairly high standard.
In summing up, westernen tourists have voted with their feet not to visit maybe fed up of being ignored by the better looking girls, maybe the high hotel prices the high food prices the high lady drink prices, what ever the reason westerners have mainly deserted angeles, as many have said, koreans are the new kings in town and are still arriving in fairly high numbers, take away the koreans and in all honesty it would be lights out for angeles.
NapaSlapper
11-22-24, 03:43
Finally, we have concrete all the way down walking street, although the road is not pleasing on the eye at least it is fairly complete, there are very high curbs and low road surface and have seen a few drunks stumble at this, was fully expecting that pretty paving slabs would be added but according to those in the know its staying as is.
Masquarade bar top floor seating area is starting to take shape and will be a good addition to walking street and a chilled area to sit and people watch when complete.
The closed down envy bar at the mouth of walking street that had lots of money spent on it just before closing due to little customers looks like new renovations are under way, not sure of what it will be when completed but at least work has started.
The town is really slow for foreign tourist even though we have entered high season, many western bars are really slow with some no customers and very few girls when visited even the once popular lollipop bar and geckos bar were very quiet this past week.
As for the korean punters the numbers are also a little down during the week but swell greatly at weekends and the koreans greatly outnumber the westerners by a long long way on any night.
Atlantis bar, this bar was once the number 1 bar in angeles, not so any more where once there were 150 odd dancing girls we are now down to about 20,some chubby, some older and 2 girls just ok looking (both sat drinking with koreans already) 1 drink and left.
Q bar, although some say they see westerners here, on my multiple visits to QBar with friends I see very few westerners here at all but many asian punters, this past weeks visit saw me and another western friend as the only westerners, although it was not too busy the other customers were koreans, about 12 girls,2 girls just cute but no more, friend tried desperately to get their attention and was ignored by said girls, when 2 asians called them over they immediately went for drinks with the koreans,1 drink and left.
Madonna bar, yes back here yet again with Korean friends, its a nice modern bar, ice cold drinks and a few pretty girls (but nowhere near stunners) probably 25 odd girls, I was the only westerner in, stayed about an hour, our drinks 180 peso, lady drinks 350 peso, barfines 6,000 peso for the top girls, some girls drinks only and of those girls that will barfine unfortunately they are korean only girls.
Xs bar, this is without doubt the shining star of all of walking street by a long way, very busy with all asian punters, again I was the only westerner, great shows put on by attractive girls, attractive black tape girls, the korean manager is super friendly and always tries to give good seats and 1st drink on the house, westerners very welcome for a drink and watch the shows, many girls here are only show girls, many girls are drinks only, a couple of very cute cherry girls, of all the angeles bars Xs bar has the most and cutest girls, of course of the girls that do barfine they are mainly korean only girls with some girls even able to speak korean to a fairly high standard.
In summing up, westernen tourists have voted with their feet not to visit maybe fed up of being ignored by the better looking girls, maybe the high hotel prices the high food prices the high lady drink prices, what ever the reason westerners have mainly deserted angeles, as many have said, koreans are the new kings in town and are still arriving in fairly high numbers, take away the koreans and in all honesty it would be lights out for angeles.
Unless there is something I have overlooked, you won't find cheap (branded) electronics in PI, it will be cheaper if you can purchase in the states. I have struggled with this for some time also, need a laptop to do some work but don't like to lug it around. When the mac air was launched I switched from windows to the air, and it worked fine, now there are a lot of cheaper windows laptops, but no where close to a disposable price in the light weight option. Currently and for the last few years I use a chromebook when traveling. As far as price, compact, weight, and battery life, it is hard to beat a chromebook type of laptop. If you are able to do what you need to on a chromebook type of laptop, I would suggest that as it is fairly disposable as far as pricing.I would second this. Electronics pricing in the Philippines is nearly identical to the states. I bought my daughter a laptop for her high school and early college years, and a decent laptop with some power behind it was about $600 USD. A decent Chromebook can be bought online for a lot less ($200 is common), but they are designed to become obsolete quickly. For your purposes, I would recommend that, especially if you use google docs. Then give it away when you leave. But buy in the states because you will spend comparatively less.
I will probably bring my old laptop and give it away (if anyone will take it).
I looked at lazada and facebook ads (6,900 PHP) but I think a lot of them are dodgy. I understand their pricing as they have to raise taxes somewhere but I thought maybe students etd might have a flourishing 2nd hand market.
The margens are different. Years ago, there were lots of internet cafes. Great places to pick up women. Laundries are all over the palce because not so many own their own wshing machines / dryers, and other examples too.
I imagine there is a market but it is not for us.
One other thing is the sreet food, which is fine to start the day but thye leave it out in the open all day and that has done in my stomach on occasion. Once, when dining with a lady, I watched a rat work itsway into the cafe through a hole. Another roadside place does catering, arranging the special nibbles out in the open, Rough and ready for us, fine by them.
LoveItHere69
11-22-24, 09:08
I looked at lazada and facebook ads (6,900 PHP) but I think a lot of them are dodgy. I understand their pricing as they have to raise taxes somewhere but I thought maybe students etd might have a flourishing 2nd hand market.
OMG! Never buy used even from friends. You have no idea what websites they have visited or what has been downloaded. There could be all kinds of malware and spyware looking for your bank accounts and passwords.
Wow! You are 10000% right. I would bem ore concerned with what they might have downloaded or if it was a catch whitey scam. Either way, I wil bring my old lap top, give it away when finished) and wiped clean). But every day is really stil la school day.
In summing up, westernen tourists have voted with their feet not to visit maybe fed up of being ignored by the better looking girls, maybe the high hotel prices the high food prices the high lady drink prices, what ever the reason westerners have mainly deserted angeles, as many have said, koreans are the new kings in town and are still arriving in fairly high numbers, take away the koreans and in all honesty it would be lights out for angeles.Napa, for me, it's because the place is basically a shithole.
I've only had two visits to AC and they were coordinated with work commitments and not ultimately by choice.
Taking the whole Korean aspect out of it, the idea of bar fines and the fruit juice lady drinks scam can be avoided.
Guys can try a few different areas in The Phils and 'compensate the poor' in a more accommodating environment.
It is a nation of many islands.
More so for the first timers on the forum, you can actually have a vacation in The Phils, in a nice place, without having to visit AC.
The good times due to the military presence are long gone in AC.
My advice is, don't give up on The Phils.
I'll be back tomorrow.
Just my experience _ Phil.
NapaSlapper
11-22-24, 13:40
Napa, for me, it's because the place is basically a shithole.
I've only had two visits to AC and they were coordinated with work commitments and not ultimately by choice.
Taking the whole Korean aspect out of it, the idea of bar fines and the fruit juice lady drinks scam can be avoided.
Guys can try a few different areas in The Phils and 'compensate the poor' in a more accommodating environment.
It is a nation of many islands..For sure the phills is a huge country with many girls to meet and I'm so happy you have found alternatives to Angeles city.
Many friends that many moons ago lived in Angeles full time and swore they would never leave have moved on years ago, some to other far flung places in the phills, some to Thailand and some to Cambodia, why did they leave, simple, Angeles is a shadow of what it was before, do they have plans to come back and live in Angeles, absolutely not.
Fully agree that angels is basically a slum, bad air, bad food, bad internet, expensive housing / hotels, scams, beggars, robbers and many more things, the whole reason guys were once willing to put up with all the negatives of Angeles was the girls, yes thousands of very pretty, young, attractive girls crammed into every bar, all willing to fuck anyone and stay long time with as many pops as one could muster.
Roll on to todays Angeles and what do we have, well we still have all the negatives posted above but a real lack of young, attractive, slim girls working in the bars, what attractive girls there are are just not interested in whitey, many girls are drinks only, many girls are virgins, many girls have constant men's and multiple excuses not to leave their bar or to leave after the first pop if they do fuck for a living.
Its certainly not good news for westerners that are even slightly fussy in their bed partners in Angeles bars, the good news is as you say many other places in the phills to visit, a few I really enjoy is palawan, boracay, iloilo, malapascu island and bantayan island at the top of cebu, yes these places are not mongering areas but nothing to stop one visiting go out to the restaurants, bars, malls in these places, be friendly, smile and talk politely to the local girls, yes many are shy at first but good things come to those that wait a while.
Happy hunting.
Old And Ugly
11-22-24, 22:51
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One other thing is the sreet food, which is fine to start the day but thye leave it out in the open all day and that has done in my stomach on occasion. Once, when dining with a lady, I watched a rat work itsway into the cafe through a hole. Another roadside place does catering, arranging the special nibbles out in the open, Rough and ready for us, fine by them.I trust more the street food, more turnover, and all of it is cooked, so it won't spoil (too much) in the few hours that it spends in the heat. At first is scary when you look at the whole thing, and think of details viewing it from a western perspective, but then you realize that in the fancy restaurant the food is handled the same way, and the only difference is the fact that there are more rats running around unhindered in the back rooms, unlike in the street where the food is guarded by the vendor.
In PH don't overthink too much what goes on behind the scenes in regard to your food, because you may end up on forced diet. I never eat raw stuff, only fried, boiled or grilled food, this is not the place to indulge in cevice (kinilaw), oysters, or rare steaks.
Anyway the quality of the ingredients, is the lowest from the start, even if you do the shopping by yourself, and it's weird that the only place with great produce in a country that's mostly agrarian, is in S&are, imported from California.
Its certainly not good news for westerners that are even slightly fussy in their bed partners in Angeles bars, the good news is as you say many other places in the phills to visit, a few I really enjoy is palawan, boracay, iloilo, malapascu island and bantayan island at the top of cebu, yes these places are not mongering areas but nothing to stop one visiting go out to the restaurants, bars, malls in these places, be friendly, smile and talk politely to the local girls, yes many are shy at first but good things come to those that wait a while.
Happy hunting.I don't want to continue the negativity so I'll put this in a positive light. Outside AC, the Phillipines has something for everyone. There is no reason for the cashed up weekend millionaires to leave Makati, Cebu etc and those with more time or adventurous spirit can head to the larger provincial cities where a little ground work will deliver benefits. With online options now available everywhere, even non mongering areas can hide girls who will drop around or act as local guides to a lot more than visiting waterfalls.
While we might lament the loss of ACs point and shoot options, it couldn't be easier to find pussy elsewhere. Often these options are far more fun and sweeter.
Some guys will complain that PI doesn't have the quality hotels, food or sheer numbers of other options but I find the overall package the best. As usual, YMMV.
Enjoy. G.
Hi, I am assuming you are a westerner and as such it is still possible to get laid in angeles gogo bars, all one has to do is greatly lower ones expectations on what's available to mr westerner here. Head to the western oriented bars of walking st, geckos bar, masquare bar, lollipop bar, champagne bar, buy yourself a drink, buy a few drinks for the girls, ask about barfine directly with the girl, if girl agrees then off you go, fully expect most girls to bolt after the 1st pop, girl may or may not insist on a condom, may or may not give head or allow pussy sucking regardless of what was agreed to in the bar prior, girls in western bars tend to be, older, fatter and plain in looks.
If one is looking for younger slimmer fairly ok looking girls than what can be found in western bars then such can only be found in korean oriented bars of walking street, as a westerner in a korean bar fully expect to be ignored when trying to get the attention of any of the lookers here, why, well the lookers only drink, fuck with koreans, its not a matter of a westerner having game, being ok looking, offering to pay as much as the koreans, its simply the girls are racist in as much as they have no interest in westerners at all but lots of interest in koreans.
If one is already in manila then making an angeles visit is pointless if one is in the least fussy in girls, better to just pay a bit more in manila where the girls are far more pleasing on the eye.
Happy mongering and let us know what you chose.What really bothers me is that those Korean bars are pretty empty most nights of the week. The bars that cater to Westerners have bigger crowds at night. (Different during the day.).
I long ago got tired of getting ignored by girls in Korean bars and rarely stop in.
I am going to be back early in December and am going to give the Korean bars one more chance. My plan is go go on off nights and see whether the girls will rather make ZERO money or pay attention to a Westerner.
If all fails, MAYBE I will start visiting Manila. (I just hate the traffic.).
I trust more the street food, more turnover, and all of it is cooked, so it won't spoil (too much) in the few hours that it spends in the heat. At first is scary when you look at the whole thing, and think of details viewing it from a western perspective, but then you realize that in the fancy restaurant the food is handled the same way, and the only difference is the fact that there are more rats running around unhindered in the back rooms, unlike in the street where the food is guarded by the vendor.
In PH don't overthink too much what goes on behind the scenes in regard to your food, because you may end up on forced diet. I never eat raw stuff, only fried, boiled or grilled food, this is not the place to indulge in cevice (kinilaw), oysters, or rare steaks.
Anyway the quality of the ingredients, is the lowest from the start, even if you do the shopping by yourself, and it's weird that the only place with great produce in a country that's mostly agrarian, is in S&are, imported from California.A lot of points there. You can buy live fish at the Angeles market, still splashing about in a spit of water. Plenty of fruit is on sale there but it is too expensive for most Pinoys. I don't get that. Someone must have the supply chain by the balls.
With street food, as long as there is running water, it is generally ok. But sitting in the sun. I am talking about cheap cafes, who make the produce at 7 am and are still serviing it at 3 pm.
Good point about the vendors watching their food.
An interesting point is Pinay hookers, being part of the wider Pinoy fmaily, seem to have a worse attitude to food than do their Thai equivalents, who are more into greens and the like. This is leaing Jolibee etc to one side. They just nibble on crap. No wondr they baloon in size when their sponsors take them overseas.
Old And Ugly
11-24-24, 13:00
A lot of points there. You can buy live fish at the Angeles market, still splashing about in a spit of water. Plenty of fruit is on sale there but it is too expensive for most Pinoys. I don't get that. Someone must have the supply chain by the balls.
With street food, as long as there is running water, it is generally ok. But sitting in the sun. I am talking about cheap cafes, who make the produce at 7 am and are still serviing it at 3 pm.
Good point about the vendors watching their food.
An interesting point is Pinay hookers, being part of the wider Pinoy fmaily, seem to have a worse attitude to food than do their Thai equivalents, who are more into greens and the like. This is leaing Jolibee etc to one side. They just nibble on crap. No wondr they baloon in size when their sponsors take them overseas.They baloon in the PH too, as soon as they have money to buy food.
Few years back when I was living next to Diamond Park with a call ctr GF in her apartment, among other hundreds of call ctr girls, I can tell you that she was the only skinny one in her neighborhood.
I was going out with her and her GFs almost daily to Liza's Thai restaurant, being happy that I can put some veggies in my body, and I was the one eating like a girl, mostly beef salad, or something light, while everybody else were stuffing their faces with all kind of noodles, and fried stuff. It felt like I was at Archie's Thai restaurant in the US, all surrounded by whales.
What really bothers me is that those Korean bars are pretty empty most nights of the week. The bars that cater to Westerners have bigger crowds at night. (Different during the day.).
I long ago got tired of getting ignored by girls in Korean bars and rarely stop in.
I am going to be back early in December and am going to give the Korean bars one more chance. My plan is go go on off nights and see whether the girls will rather make ZERO money or pay attention to a Westerner.
If all fails, MAYBE I will start visiting Manila. (I just hate the traffic.).Most of the koreans don't hang out at the bars like the westerners do. They come, pick all the girls they like, pay the barfines and leave.
I don't want to continue the negativity so I'll put this in a positive light. Outside AC, the Phillipines has something for everyone. There is no reason for the cashed up weekend millionaires to leave Makati, Cebu etc and those with more time or adventurous spirit can head to the larger provincial cities where a little ground work will deliver benefits. With online options now available everywhere, even non mongering areas can hide girls who will drop around or act as local guides to a lot more than visiting waterfalls.
While we might lament the loss of ACs point and shoot options, it couldn't be easier to find pussy elsewhere. Often these options are far more fun and sweeter.
Some guys will complain that PI doesn't have the quality hotels, food or sheer numbers of other options but I find the overall package the best. As usual, YMMV.
Enjoy. G.In southeast asia, I can't think of a place that has worse food than the Philippines. Hotels are incredibly overpriced for what they are. The only thing it has going for it is cheap sex with girls that speak english. Sort of. Which is a big advantage. So. Weigh your options.
The only thing it has going for it is cheap sex with girls that speak english. Sort of. Which is a big advantage. So. Weigh your options.As an educator, I can tell you that the English skills of filipinos are dropping very rapidly. I work with teachers, and it is now apparent that many (most?) teachers are struggling to write a simple sentence with the right tense etc. This will filter through to the girls eventually. Many teachers actually prefer to work with one of my pinoy colleagues because he will communicate in Tagalog.
Their comment: "when we talk to Sir RK we get nose-bleed speaking English".
Old And Ugly
11-26-24, 07:39
As an educator, I can tell you that the English skills of filipinos are dropping very rapidly. I work with teachers, and it is now apparent that many (most?) teachers are struggling to write a simple sentence with the right tense etc. This will filter through to the girls eventually. Many teachers actually prefer to work with one of my pinoy colleagues because he will communicate in Tagalog.
Their comment: "when we talk to Sir RK we get nose-bleed speaking English".They just follow the same trend initiated in the west, in the english speaking countries, where the educators have trouble with their own native language, and they don't even have a backup language as tagalog to rely on. It seems that finally the decades of fluoridation, pot liberation, and making everybody feel good in the school, paid off well, beyond expectations.
NapaSlapper
11-30-24, 09:13
What really bothers me is that those Korean bars are pretty empty most nights of the week. The bars that cater to Westerners have bigger crowds at night. (Different during the day.).
I long ago got tired of getting ignored by girls in Korean bars and rarely stop in.
I am going to be back early in December and am going to give the Korean bars one more chance. My plan is go go on off nights and see whether the girls will rather make ZERO money or pay attention to a Westerner.
If all fails, MAYBE I will start visiting Manila. (I just hate the traffic.).Not sure when you were last in angeles but I can assure you that korean punters out number westerners by multiple times now and therefore its the korean bars that have the most punter bums on seats (especially the big korean show bars).
Don't hold your breath on finding any girls in korean bars that earn zero peso and are therefore desperate enough to have interest in western punters, why well lets take xs bar as a small example (xs bar is Korea oriented) dancer salaries 800- 1000 peso per night, lady drinks, girls get half so 175 peso per drink, a reasonably popular girl here averages 10-15 lady drinks per night with many more of the most popular girls averaging even more lady drinks, then there is making it rain money, tips money etc, so as you see most girls earn fantastic money per night all without fucking any one so not exactly desperate girls or girls short of money around.
Best advice for westerners that want to visit angeles is lower ones expectations and hit the few western bars that remain, trying to compete for girl attention with our korean friends in korean bars just does not turn out well.
Happy mongering.
Old And Ugly
12-01-24, 06:47
Anyone have experience renewing their us passport in manila or cebu? How long it takes, and which one is better, manila or cebu?
Expat American
12-01-24, 09:51
I was going through some old files. I know us old timers keep complaining about how things are not the way it used to be and sometimes I wonder if my memory is accurate. Well I dug up an old trip report and some pics from "back in the day" (Ca 2007-2008) and thought it might be interesting for the younger crowd to get a sense of what it was like about 15 years ago in AC. Enjoy (and weep for the good ol days). Interesting that I found LA Cafe not so good even back then. USD to Peso was about 45 back then and you can see the prices I paid in the report. Also pics show the kind of action available in the bars for the price of a lady drink. Thats what made AC a fun place to go IMHO. With that gone, there is no real reason to return. At least I have my memories and pics and videos.
Angeles City Trip Report (2007).
After all the deliberation about whether it would be worth the long flight to come here for a short week trip, I have to say it was more than worth it. The flight was two connections SFO-NGO-ICN-CRK but the long haul part was an empty flight and I had the whole row to stretch out in. The connection from NGO to ICN was 30 minutes delayed and I had a one hour connection. Then we got stuck on the ground at ICN waiting for gate assignment. I was sure I was going to miss the flight to CRK but I have to say Asiana rocks. I told the FA that I had a tight connection. She had the pilot radio the ground staff. There was a cute Asiana ground staffer waiting to meet me and escort me all the way to the new gate. We probably ran half a mile and she was doing better than me in her heels and even grabbed my roll on and pulled it! I need to work out more, but that's another story.
Day 1: Sunday.
Arrived at CRK at 11:30 PM Sunday night. My buddy was here earlier and met me at the airport. Have to say, I love not having the 2 HR drive from Manila. 15 minutes after landing I am in my hotel and 30 minutes after landing I have a beer in one hand, girl on my lap and ass in my other hand! Got to love this place. Stayed at Pacific Breeze. Highly recommended. $41/ night, new hotel, nice pool and very cute receptionists and waitresses.
Okay, okay I am going to get to the juicy parts. First night I thought I'd be tired but the adrenalin kicked in and we hit the bars. Las Vegas was cool and fairly high mileage. Lots of grabbing and fondling for some LD. Didn't want to pick a girl from the first bar I hit. After a couple of stops I ended up at Treasure Island. The mama-san looked familiar and it turns out she was the one I had met a couple of trips ago and she had turned me on to a brand new girl, first day on the job. I asked for another newbie and she pointed me out one who was a little curvier than the average but nice tits and great attitude. I took the recommendation and had a great night, full GFE. She hadn't learned how to act yet and it was all natural.
Day 2: Monday.
Monday morning we went to Voodoo, which is now open 24 hours. This is hands down the best bar in Angeles for morning fun. Very friendly and cute girls. My buddy and I bought some drinks and between us had 6 girls all over us, tongues everywhere, hands on tits, pussy you name it. One big constant lap dance with full access over all the girls. We spent at least 2 hours there and the total tab was about 1700 peso. Best 40 bucks ever spent. We left Voodoo to recover for a bit and had lunch. Collected some girls mobile numbers for future calls. Afternoon was spent at Nifty's on the perimeter which was a replay of the Voodoo experience and my bud had to barfine a ST after the sample BJ sold him on the girl. He went back to his hotel. I was going to get a nap and headed back to my hotel. Of course I got distracted by the ST bars on Santos. Decided a quickie would help me sleep better. Found this cute 18 year old, slim smooth body and only working one week. First she was scared to go with me but her mama-san convinced her to come. I was gentle with her and she relaxed and opened up and turned out to be a pretty good fuck. She was willing for round two but I needed to sleep so I sent her home and crashed for 2 hours. That evening we hit the bars again but the exhaustion was catching up. Decided all I could handle was another short time. This time found a cute little 19 year old who was very accommodating. Sent her back after one round (I am pacing myself) and passed out. BTW, ST is 600 pesos, 2 hours. (about $15 even with the crappy exchange rate or 43.6).
Day 3 Tuesday.
Tuesday morning I go back to Voodoo to find Marichell the girl from last night. Again I buy some drinks and have 3 girls all over me. I decide to barfine Marichell. Another 19 year old, Jocelyn, who I had my eye on wants to come with us. She tells me she is officially not working that day so I don't need to pay her barfine and she would be happy with 500 peso LT. How can I resist that? So back to the room. These girls were up for anything. Pictures, video, all of it. Switching between two tight wet Filipina pussies again and again is something etched in my mind for ever. But just in case I take video as well. We go for lunch to sub delicious and back in the room for more fun. Joceyln falls asleep and I fuck Marichell in the meanwhile. I am going for round three with Marichell when Jocelyn wakes up. She wants to go home but I convince her for one more round before she leaves. She complies and after coming in her tight young pussy, I send her off with a well deserved 600 pesos. Marichell stays and this girl is insatiable. I don't know how many times we fucked. I lost track after 6. She won't keep her hands off my dick all night. Its like I have to fend her off all night to get even a little sleep.
Day 4: Wed.
Decided to give Maricell one more BF and have her hang around for the day. Spent some time hanging by the pool. The Pacific Breeze has a pretty nice pool and some very cute and friendly waitresses. Maricell was dubbed "Engerizer Bunny" by a guy I met there as she kept coming up and touching and me all the time. Well, theres only so much of that a guy can take so after a poolside lunch its up the room for another couple of rounds. I lost track of how many times we fucked but it was at least 8 or maybe even 9 or 10 times over the two days. In spite of that, I was tiring of her and had to cut her loose. Just as I was feeling a little bad for sending her off in spite of stellar performance (with a 400 p tip) she gets a call from her "Boyfriend " in Australia. She spends a few minutes telling him how she is at home, not working in bar anymore, not having a boyfriend and waiting for him. Right after I fucked her 10 times in every hole in the last two days. Warning boys, do not get involved with these girls. Fuck them, pay them and leave. After hearing that conversation, I was happy to send her on her way. She knew the game and didn't complain.
Later that afternoon met up with the guys from the pool at Roadies which is a new bar near the Clarkton hotel on Perimeter. Very low key bar but they had some very cute girls. Moved from there to Honey Kos. The owner brought is 2 or 3 year old daughter into the bar (yeah into a bar full of hookers), buys the dancers shots which means they take their tops off. Meanwhile this little kid wants to go up on stage and dance with the dancers and her dad encourages this. I am just looking at this surreal scene and shaking my head.
Moved on to Nifty's for some high intensity grab and tickle. Barfined Sabrina who has an irresistible sales pitch involving her hot mouth on your dick. She also has the sweetest voice and way of talking. Good BJ but she neglected to mention she was on the rag so no FS with her. Sent her off after one round, no tip.
That was my last night in AC. But I was so tired I had decided to not Barfine anyone else. That was until I got to Treasure Island and had this cute 19 year old drunk dancer called Kimberly crawl into my lap and kiss me. Well, it was my last night so WTF. Take her back and fuck her three times before I have to check out at noon to go to Manila.
Day 5-6 Thu and Fri.
Manila: By day 4 (Thursday) I was worn out from the bar scene. I had been chatting with a few girls from Cherry Blossoms and at least one was worth meeting. Her name was Rachelle and she was 18. A little curvy (not fat), great firm tits and a nice round ass. Not a bar girl, but not too sophisticated either. Called her from my hotel and she agreed to come over right away. Often the girls come with a friend for the first meeting but Rachelle came alone. She didn't seem comfortable to go straight to the room so we went to the Mall near the hotel, got some smoothies and hung out. There was a movie playing an hour later that we thought we should go to. I suggested hanging out in the Mall but Rachelle said lets go back to the room! Okay, so there we are on my bed watching TV and she is getting warmer and more cuddly. She had arrived at my hotel at 3 and at 6:30 I had her panties off and my cock in her wet pussy. How many dates does it take in the US again?! And that too with someone half my age! Once the floodgates were opened, there was no stopping her. She was not too experienced but made up in enthusiasm and youth. We spent two days basically in the room fucking and taking breaks only for meals. In the end I gave her 400 peso ($10) for taxi fare and a meal on her way home. I had also bought her a 300 peso load card for her cell phone. That's it. No money was ever asked for, all of this I gave without prompting.
She left at 7 pm on Friday and I had to leave for the airport at 9 pm. What can I do with two hours? Check out LA Café of course! I have to say I was disappointed by the famous LA Café. The girls all looked older (I. E. Mid 20's) and a bit too pro for my liking. I am sure there are gems but may be hard to find. In Angeles you can find younger fresher girls in almost any bar. Maybe its just a preference but I see no reason to stay in Manila for P4 P. The civilian scene on the other hand could be quite fun if you line up a few contacts in advance. I had a couple of other girls I was chatting with as well but didn't have time to meet them.
The only problem now is Rachelle emails and chats constantly telling me how she loves me, misses me, etc. I guess the good part about paying is that they go away later!
Old And Ugly
12-01-24, 20:53
I was going through some old files.................................................................................!Voodoo was the only bar open during day time on WS. I don't know why they changed the name to Angel Witch. I have few pics too, but the digital cameras were not so performant in low light back then. Also threesomes were very rare, but I managed to have some.
Not sure when you were last in angeles but I can assure you that korean punters out number westerners by multiple times now and therefore its the korean bars that have the most punter bums on seats (especially the big korean show bars).
Don't hold your breath on finding any girls in korean bars that earn zero peso and are therefore desperate enough to have interest in western punters, why well lets take xs bar as a small example (xs bar is Korea oriented) dancer salaries 800- 1000 peso per night, lady drinks, girls get half so 175 peso per drink, a reasonably popular girl here averages 10-15 lady drinks per night with many more of the most popular girls averaging even more lady drinks, then there is making it rain money, tips money etc, so as you see most girls earn fantastic money per night all without fucking any one so not exactly desperate girls or girls short of money around.
Best advice for westerners that want to visit angeles is lower ones expectations and hit the few western bars that remain, trying to compete for girl attention with our korean friends in korean bars just does not turn out well.
Happy mongering.I was just in Angeles in October and I will be back again this month. I am talking specifically at night. There were a few Koreans, but the Korean bars had MANY girls working at night but hardly any customers. The Korean managers were standing outside trying to get us Westerners to come inside. This was low season. Maybe things will pick up for them in December.
I haven't posted much in recent years. I will make an effort to update this site on the status on the ground.
BUT for me, I will yave a good trip regardless of the bars. I know so many girls in Angeles. Many use to work in bars, but stopped.
I don't want to continue the negativity so I'll put this in a positive light. Outside AC, the Phillipines has something for everyone. There is no reason for the cashed up weekend millionaires to leave Makati, Cebu etc and those with more time or adventurous spirit can head to the larger provincial cities where a little ground work will deliver benefits. With online options now available everywhere, even non mongering areas can hide girls who will drop around or act as local guides to a lot more than visiting waterfalls.
While we might lament the loss of ACs point and shoot options, it couldn't be easier to find pussy elsewhere. Often these options are far more fun and sweeter.
Some guys will complain that PI doesn't have the quality hotels, food or sheer numbers of other options but I find the overall package the best. As usual, YMMV..As you correctly say: . Those with more time.
On a vacation trip of 2 weeks going to the provinces to find every night a willing girl to get fucked without a long address list from the past is impossible. A month may be the minimum duration you need to build up a network of willing girls. That was in the past the same. But it does not help those who not want to invest time and failures in this sort of FB and Pinalove dating.
Other countries offer better options.
Old And Ugly
12-03-24, 05:33
As you correctly say: . Those with more time.
On a vacation trip of 2 weeks going to the provinces to find every night a willing girl to get fucked without a long address list from the past is impossible. A month may be the minimum duration you need to build up a network of willing girls. That was in the past the same. But it does not help those who not want to invest time and failures in this sort of FB and Pinalove dating.
Other countries offer better options.Yes it will take lots of time, and if someone is doing it thinking that it will be cheaper, that's totally wrong, per total is going to be way more expensive than the BF. Also even if there is variety, you'll have to focus on a single one at the time, if you're in a small place.
Chris Long
12-03-24, 14:37
She has to be a rag doll. She has to be cooperative submissive and follow the man's lead and allow him to bend her shape her place her however he wants. If she can do this, she is good at sex.
What makes a Man good at sex?
He has to have steel he has to be willing to take charge and dominate her and ravish her the way she wants to be dominated and ravished. If he can do this then he is good at sex.
Only a Man can make the sex Good a woman can make it bad by not being cooperative submissive and following the man's lead. But if the man is not good, unable to have / maintain steel or not willing to take charge and dominate and ravish her then no matter how cooperative submissive and willing to follow the man's lead the woman is the sex will not be good if the man is not good.
I will arrive in Manilla Saturday night then Angeles City on Monday for Thirty days. I plan on giving daily field reports on my trip.
LoveItHere69
12-04-24, 08:46
She has to be a rag doll. She has to be cooperative submissive and follow the man's lead and allow him to bend her shape her place her however he wants. If she can do this, she is good at sex.
What makes a Man good at sex?
He has to have steel he has to be willing to take charge and dominate her and ravish her the way she wants to be dominated and ravished. If he can do this then he is good at sex.
Only a Man can make the sex Good a woman can make it bad by not being cooperative submissive and following the man's lead. But if the man is not good, unable to have / maintain steel or not willing to take charge and dominate and ravish her then no matter how cooperative submissive and willing to follow the man's lead the woman is the sex will not be good if the man is not good.So that is the secret huh? Who knew it was that simple? You sound like a rapist. You are a great example why so many sexy women become lesbians. The ugly women become lesbians because guys do not want them. Since they obviously can not be the pretty girl in the relationship they gain more weight and dress up as the guy.
Old And Ugly
12-04-24, 09:19
She has to be a rag doll. She has to be cooperative submissive and follow the man's lead and allow him to bend her shape her place her however he wants. If she can do this, she is good at sex.
What makes a Man good at sex?
He has to have steel he has to be willing to take charge and dominate her and ravish her the way she wants to be dominated and ravished. If he can do this then he is good at sex.
Only a Man can make the sex Good a woman can make it bad by not being cooperative submissive and following the man's lead. But if the man is not good, unable to have / maintain steel or not willing to take charge and dominate and ravish her then no matter how cooperative submissive and willing to follow the man's lead the woman is the sex will not be good if the man is not good.
I will arrive in Manilla Saturday night then Angeles City on Monday for Thirty days. I plan on giving daily field reports on my trip.May the steel be with you!
WestCoast1
12-04-24, 11:35
He has to have steel he has to be willing to take charge and dominate her and ravish her the way she wants to be dominated and ravished. If he can do this then he is good at sex.TYS!
May the steel be with you!I gave her some steel.
FuriousGeorge
12-04-24, 20:42
I arrive a week from Friday for 30 days. Looking forward to your reports.
I will arrive in Manilla Saturday night then Angeles City on Monday for Thirty days. I plan on giving daily field reports on my trip.
She has to be a rag doll. She has to be cooperative submissive and follow the man's lead and allow him to bend her shape her place her however he wants. If she can do this, she is good at sex.
I can't say I agree with your theory Mr. Long.
It's a two way street.
Just from experience _ Phil.
Soapy Smith
12-11-24, 01:20
I can't say I agree with your theory Mr. Long.
It's a two way street.
Just from experience _ Phil.I agree with Phil. My main Filipina squeeze introduced me to some wonderful tactics and lessons. Why would I want to forgo learning what she knows and what she can do?
NeilGeorge
12-11-24, 02:19
My main Filipina squeeze introduced me to some wonderful tactics and lessons. Why would I want to forgo learning what she knows and what she can do?Is she a 3 holer?
Chris Long
12-11-24, 05:46
Woke up in Manilla around 10: am showered collected my stuff and checked out (Manilla Sucks) took Grab to NAIA Terminal 3 bay 14 was 420, Geneses bus to SM Clark was 4 something. Bus was crowded no spare seats. Trike to hotel from SM Clark was 150. Checked in got things settled in the room took a shower to rinse off went to Johnnys Supermarket to pick up a few things for the room. Returned collected all of my dirty laundry and my ATM card dropped my clothes off at the laundry near my hotel stopped at the ATM walked up in front of Phillies to see what the freelancer scene was like. As usual it Sucked very few girls the few that were there were all sub five in appearance. Walked back towards walking street where I spotted a Very Attractive girl walking in front of me seen she walked into Lofty Bar so decided to go in there and try my luck. Seen her as I walked in we locked eyes I smiled and she smiled back. Sat down we are still smilling at each other, I motiend for her to come and sit with me. She came and sat next to me very agreeable girl a 7/8 in looks 21 years old one child (typical). We ordered drinks she laughed at all of my jokes seemed to really enjoy being with me, it was just understood that we would bar fine. I told her I only do short time which she happily agreed to I whispered in her ear we would boom boom with no condom she smiled and shook her head yes. I paid the tab she got her stuff, and we left. In the room she was submissive cooperative and followed my lead. I took charge dominated her and ravished her and be both had a great time. Afterwords I place 1000 pesos with some chocolate bars on the bed and next to it a 20-peso bill. I told her this or this is your tip. Placed a pillow over top and moved them around under the pillow and told her to pick one side of the pillow or the other and whatever was underneath the side she picked would be her tip. She picked the side with the 1000 and the chocolate bars and won the grand prize tip. We embraced she left I relaxed.
Checked my phone and had messages from an Atlantis girl I had met last month in November when I was here. Cute girl 7 in looks 19 very petite has one baby (typical) has some baby damage on her stomach. I was here for ten days over the Thanksgiving break then had to return to my home country for a week and then returned here for a month. Bar fined her one night towards the end of my trip last month then she came to see me outside of the bar the next day then I left the day after that, told her I would be back the following week. The week I was gone she was sending me these heartbreaking messages about how her child was in the hospital she was there too and couldn't leave until she paid the bill. I just responded I would help her when I returned.
She contacted me asked if she could come over, I told her yes and she came. In the room she was sweet affectionate submissive cooperative followed my lead, and I took charge and dominated her and ravished her and we both had a great time. Afterwards we laid there and held each other she staid so long I thought she was going to spend the night but eventually she got up showered and left. We embraced held hands as I walked her down to get a trike and she left. (Readers will want to read the Tuesday December 10th report when she became a complete Psycho).
After she left, I went to the gym in the hotel put in 30 minutes on the life cycle returned to the room ordered some chop suey and eat. The plan was to shower and go out again, but I was too tired and just fell asleep.
Readers will want to follow along for the Tuesday December 10 field report where everything went downhill, and it was a disastrous day.
I agree with Phil. My main Filipina squeeze introduced me to some wonderful tactics and lessons. Why would I want to forgo learning what she knows and what she can do?Do the math. She's sleeping with 5 guys a week /200 a year and Chris doesn't think she's going to pick up a few tricks that might be something new or a bit of fun??
If being a Dom is his thing, then more power to him but don't think she has nothing to contribute.
Enjoy. G.
Woke up in Manilla around 10: am showered collected my stuff and checked out (Manilla Sucks) took Grab to NAIA Terminal 3 bay 14 was 420, Geneses bus to SM Clark was 4 something. Bus was crowded no spare seats. Trike to hotel from SM Clark was 150.I'm just wondering, why the preference for returning to the airport for Genesis over catching Victory in town? Traffic around NAIA can suck bigtime. Were you already staying close to the airport or do you prefer the SM Clark drop off vs Dau?
Good to read that you are enjoying AC. It's nice to have some good news stories.
Enjoy. G.
WestCoast1
12-12-24, 01:25
She contacted me asked if she could come over, I told her yes and she came. In the room she was sweet affectionate submissive cooperative followed my lead, and I took charge and dominated her and ravished her and we both had a great time. Afterwards we laid there and held each other she staid so long I thought she was going to spend the night but eventually she got up showered and left. We embraced held hands as I walked her down to get a trike and she left. (Readers will want to read the Tuesday December 10th report when she became a complete Psycho).
SNIP
Readers will want to follow along for the Tuesday December 10 field report where everything went downhill, and it was a disastrous day.Good reports.
AC throwback pics. A Santos girl, 4' 10-ish", 75 lbs, ID says age 19. Repeated several times, and repeat visits she brought another girl. My rod and my staff seemed to comfort her. The wild west.
I'm just wondering, why the preference for returning to the airport for Genesis over catching Victory in town? Traffic around NAIA can suck bigtime. Were you already staying close to the airport or do you prefer the SM Clark drop off vs Dau?
Good to read that you are enjoying AC. It's nice to have some good news stories.
Enjoy. G.My 2 pesos if you don't mind. Genesis buses at T3 are consistently clean and deluxe. They run on time. Above all they use the skyway for faster non stop travel to AC.
Personally I stay in the Newport area or BGC. Travel from BGC or Makati isn't bad at all. Select a non peak travel time. To avoid NAIA T3 traffic get dropped off at the Newport side of the Runway / bridge way to T3. It is located right behind Belmont Hotel parallel to McDonalds. Walk the runway over and descend to Arrivals, Bay 14.
BTW, I use Genesis from SM to T3 and onward to parts of Manila. Bay 14 is so convient that I only book Cebu Pacific for flights within PH. Other airlines use different terminals which are a pain to get back to T3.
NapaSlapper
12-12-24, 07:23
Although the months of December and January are the most pleasant and the most popular months to visit the Angeles area due to cooler weather and the least amount of rainfall its fair to point out that during the lead up to Christmas and well into the new year is the time when the cuter more popular higher earning bar girls leave town and head off to their home province for the holidays.
Many popular girls spoken to in xs bar, Madonna bar, gold moon bar and most of the other popular walking st bars the girls were taking the whole month off.
Many bars visited on last barhop of yesterday saw much lower girl numbers, most bars visited in general girl numbers were down by 30-50 %, its the better looking girls that earn well during the year that can afford to take the time off so its fair to say quality has dropped noticeably in most bars.
The whole town seems mighty quiet during the week for tourist numbers especially western tourists, what westerners are about are mainly older expats that live here.
Korean tourist numbers are also noticeably down during the week but come Friday Saturday and Sunday those Korean numbers swell by a large amount and the many korean oriented bars are fairly busy, many koreans because they are in town for just a few days tend to be spending fairly well with the normal routine of tabling multiple girls for drinks, making it rain and tipping the girls even some times without wanting to bar fine the girls.
AS with many past years a word of warning that the days leading up to Christmas will always see an increase in petty street crime due to the poor wanting more money to spend at Christmas, street pickpockets, jeepney pickpockets, street kids dipping pockets, drive bye snatching of bags, phones by passing pinoy scooter riders, take extra care is good advice during this period.
Although the months of December and January are the most pleasant and the most popular months to visit the Angeles area due to cooler weather and the least amount of rainfall its fair to point out that during the lead up to Christmas and well into the new year is the time when the cuter more popular higher earning bar girls leave town and head off to their home province for the holidays.I abandoned December visits for that reason. The week between Christmas and NYE is the second worst time to monger in the Philippines.
Holy Week is number one. Even girls with limited resources make an effort to go home for Easter with the family.
It should be noted that the month before both these times can be nirvana as many girls are desperate to earn extra cash for the expenses of a trip back home and all the pasalubong expected from well to do city girls. Even normally good girls can often be tempted to say thanks to generous guys.
I'm not sure why but I've never noticed that same attitudes/desperation when they return broke after the holidays seasons.
Enjoy.
G.
Old And Ugly
12-14-24, 17:03
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It should be noted that the month before both these times can be nirvana as many girls are desperate to earn extra cash for the expenses of a trip back home and all the pasalubong expected from well to do city girls. Even normally good girls can often be tempted to say thanks to generous guys.
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G.That's correct, probably the phrase "it's the most beautiful time of the year" in the songs, comes from here.
My first visit to AC / Balibago was 1996. I was mid 30's and from the moment I came to town it was like being a rockstar. Paid half the time only. Fast forward to almost 30 years later. Is the below really the state of things? Korean only girls. Only chubsters for the Western older guy? I'm now early 60's. But all girls in Thailand think I'm late 40's. I look young for my age. I'm not ugly or overweight.
I just left Bangkok after being there a year. Most girls want 3000 THB that are any good. I got tired of the city. Pattaya seems to be still an option but it is way to crowded for me now. It is not like it used to be in the late 90's. Even 2012 was pretty good but steadily got more crowded with punters overpaying right and left who just found what they think is paradise, never having experienced the times years ago.
So, please any comments as to the westerner mongering conditions in AC. I was thinking of going, now I'm getting discouraged. Long flight from west coast USA to CRK.
What gives? What's it really like? More trip reports please. Especially if you are like me.
Finally, we have concrete all the way down walking street, although the road is not pleasing on the eye at least it is fairly complete, there are very high curbs and low road surface and have seen a few drunks stumble at this, was fully expecting that pretty paving slabs would be added but according to those in the know its staying as is.
Masquarade bar top floor seating area is starting to take shape and will be a good addition to walking street and a chilled area to sit and people watch when complete.
The closed down envy bar at the mouth of walking street that had lots of money spent on it just before closing due to little customers looks like new renovations are under way, not sure of what it will be when completed but at least work has started.
The town is really slow for foreign tourist even though we have entered high season, many western bars are really slow with some no customers and very few girls when visited even the once popular lollipop bar and geckos bar were very quiet this past week...
WestCoast1
12-15-24, 00:52
My first visit to AC / Balibago was 1996. I was mid 30's and from the moment I came to town it was like being a rockstar. Paid half the time only. Fast forward to almost 30 years later. Is the below really the state of things? Korean only girls. Only chubsters for the Western older guy? I'm now early 60's. But all girls in Thailand think I'm late 40's. I look young for my age. I'm not ugly or overweight.
What gives? What's it really like? More trip reports please. Especially if you are like me.Couple of thoughts. Yes, its much as described. Also helpful if you RTTF. Dismal / odd situation.
My 2 pesos if you don't mind. Genesis buses at T3 are consistently clean and deluxe. They run on time. Above all they use the skyway for faster non stop travel to AC.
Personally I stay in the Newport area or BGC. Travel from BGC or Makati isn't bad at all. Select a non peak travel time. To avoid NAIA T3 traffic get dropped off at the Newport side of the Runway / bridge way to T3. It is located right behind Belmont Hotel parallel to McDonalds. Walk the runway over and descend to Arrivals, Bay 14.
BTW, I use Genesis from SM to T3 and onward to parts of Manila. Bay 14 is so convient that I only book Cebu Pacific for flights within PH. Other airlines use different terminals which are a pain to get back to T3.I'm making my 1st trip to AC / Manila arriving at 6:50 am on the United flight from SFO. I want to go directly to AC but am confused by all these T3, Bay 14. NAIA references. Is this Genesis bus the best way other than a private transport? If so, when I arrive where do I go to catch the bus at the airport? Do I need to buy a ticket in advance?
Old And Ugly
12-15-24, 03:28
My first visit to AC / Balibago was 1996. I was mid 30's and from the moment I came to town it was like being a rockstar. Paid half the time only. Fast forward to almost 30 years later. Is the below really the state of things? Korean only girls. Only chubsters for the Western older guy? I'm now early 60's. But all girls in Thailand think I'm late 40's. I look young for my age. I'm not ugly or overweight.
I just left Bangkok after being there a year. Most girls want 3000 THB that are any good. I got tired of the city. Pattaya seems to be still an option but it is way to crowded for me now. It is not like it used to be in the late 90's. Even 2012 was pretty good but steadily got more crowded with punters overpaying right and left who just found what they think is paradise, never having experienced the times years ago.
So, please any comments as to the westerner mongering conditions in AC. I was thinking of going, now I'm getting discouraged. Long flight from west coast USA to CRK.
What gives? What's it really like? More trip reports please. Especially if you are like me.The thing is that the whole world has changed, but so far there is no better place for GFE than SEA. If anybody knows otherwise, please let us know. AC is convenient, and relative cheap, compared to other places, even if the prices have tripled.
Soapy Smith
12-15-24, 06:41
So, please any comments as to the westerner mongering conditions in AC. I was thinking of going, now I'm getting discouraged. Long flight from west coast USA to CRK.
What gives? What's it really like? More trip reports please. Especially if you are like me.There is no single answer to your questions. WC and OAU have tried to put it in perspective. Each monger is different in their outlook, expectations, and tactics. My suggestion is a refinement of WC's RTFF advice. Look at individual reports from AC and try to visualize yourself in the poster's shoes. What works for WC, OAU or anybody else may not work for you. As OAU points out, things have changed everywhere. Koreans operate differently than Western men, and their stock in AC has risen. So try to look through the lens of Western posters who describe their scores in AC. Also, lots of favorable reports from Cebu. Why limit yourself to AC?
NapaSlapper
12-15-24, 11:24
My first visit to AC / Balibago was 1996. I was mid 30's and from the moment I came to town it was like being a rockstar. Paid half the time only. Fast forward to almost 30 years later. Is the below really the state of things? Korean only girls. Only chubsters for the Western older guy? I'm now early 60's. But all girls in Thailand think I'm late 40's. I look young for my age. I'm not ugly or overweight.
I just left Bangkok after being there a year. Most girls want 3000 THB that are any good. I got tired of the city. Pattaya seems to be still an option but it is way to crowded for me now. It is not like it used to be in the late 90's. Even 2012 was pretty good but steadily got more crowded with punters overpaying right and left who just found what they think is paradise, never having experienced the times years ago.
So, please any comments as to the westerner mongering conditions in AC. I was thinking of going, now I'm getting discouraged. Long flight from west coast USA to CRK.
What gives? What's it really like? More trip reports please. Especially if you are like me.Think that all the answers to your questions have been dealt with in some detail by myself and multiple other board members that have made multiple trip reports and comments, so please read back through the forum.
Most mongering destinations are not the same now as they were 20-30 years ago, take thailand which has to be the number one mongering destination in asia, its not the same today as in the distant past but still has more than enough to bring big numbers back year after year, I put that down to a whole package, excellent food, cheap good hotels, safety, modernity, thousands more girls than any other asian destination, girls that are not prejudice to one nationality, girls that are happy to be paid only after they have performed etc.
Angeles on the other hand always offered very little outside of girls, once the girls started to think they were princesses instead of the hired help the asians in large numbers arrived and started throwing money around like its going out of fashion at the prettier angeles girls, bars allowed massive lady drinks comissions enabling the girls to be drinks only or dancers only, bars demanding full payment up front for ewr without wanting to guarantee a girl will even fuck or stay more than a very short while, so people started voting with their feet to not put up with all the bullshite any more.
As I said above, I and many have written countless angeles bar and girl reports, girl prices, drinks prices, what bars are korean, what bars are western, what to expect, its all there to read, enjoy.
TravelingMan3
12-15-24, 16:44
Angeles is far from what it was even when I first started going but it's worth a quick trip. I've changed I now live in Pattaya so when I go to AC I'm not pressed to have any chick I may see. I enjoy bar hopping and just looking around. Also I like Korean food the Korean food there is better than what's on offer in Pattaya. I was there in June and thought it sucked but I was there with a buddy who is currently there now and he loves it likes it more than Pattaya I think he is crazy but hey. I hate Songkran in Pattaya so in April I'm going back with an open mind and I'm going to give it another shot. Some positives from when I was there. I thought that Mega Dance had hot chicks only thing they weren't customers but rather the bottle girls or bikini chicks they had working this time I'm going to see if I can get one or a couple of them. Also I'm going to look on here and the Philippines site on what gogos have the best chicks. I'm going to find out if it's true they only give Koreans attention or if they'll go with a non Asian.
I'm making my 1st trip to AC / Manila arriving at 6:50 am on the United flight from SFO. I want to go directly to AC but am confused by all these T3, Bay 14. NAIA references. Is this Genesis bus the best way other than a private transport? If so, when I arrive where do I go to catch the bus at the airport? Do I need to buy a ticket in advance?You are over thinking it.
Your United flight will land in Manila NAIA Airport, Terminal 3. After passport control and baggage claim you will exit into the arrivals area. You can go left or right, it doesn't matter which way. Money exchangers will be in front of you. Change some money for the Genesis bus. 430 pesos is the fare.
Exit the arrivals area. Only one way out. Walk 10 feet, look up and you will see big letters BAY 6 or some number. Go to the right towards the higher numbers until you see BAY 14. Stop. Walk out to the median for BAY 14. There will be a Genesis kiosk. More than likely a big Genesis bus behind it.
You will land between 6 am-7 am. Genesis buses are at 7 am, 8 am and 9 am. You pay after you get on the bus. Tell the conductor you are going to SM Mall. At Sm Mall you can trike to your hotel.
Thanks to all who replied to my post. I'll scan through the posts for trip reports. It's a bit tough sifting through the thread but I'll do it. I've lived in Pattaya probably a total of 6 or 7 years on and off since 2012. Last time I was there I was amazed how quickly things had changed even in the 18 months I was state side. All the pot shops, condo's springing up especially in my old favorite Jomtien. Just stupid with Russians and 2 week punters. I did find the girl situation way better than Bangkok. 50% the price of Bangkok gals. Anyways. I may venture to Latin America to check out what else is available in the world.
Angeles is far from what it was even when I first started going but it's worth a quick trip. I've changed I now live in Pattaya so when I go to AC I'm not pressed to have any chick I may see. I enjoy bar hopping and just looking around. Also I like Korean food the Korean food there is better than what's on offer in Pattaya. I was there in June and thought it sucked but I was there with a buddy who is currently there now and he loves it likes it more than Pattaya I think he is crazy but hey. I hate Songkran in Pattaya so in April I'm going back with an open mind and I'm going to give it another shot. Some positives from when I was there. I thought that Mega Dance had hot chicks only thing they weren't customers but rather the bottle girls or bikini chicks they had working this time I'm going to see if I can get one or a couple of them. Also I'm going to look on here and the Philippines site on what gogos have the best chicks. I'm going to find out if it's true they only give Koreans attention or if they'll go with a non Asian.
Old And Ugly
12-16-24, 00:20
Angeles is far from what it was even when I first started going but it's worth a quick trip. I've changed I now live in Pattaya so when I go to AC I'm not pressed to have any chick I may see. I enjoy bar hopping and just looking around. Also I like Korean food the Korean food there is better than what's on offer in Pattaya. I was there in June and thought it sucked but I was there with a buddy who is currently there now and he loves it likes it more than Pattaya I think he is crazy but hey. I hate Songkran in Pattaya so in April I'm going back with an open mind and I'm going to give it another shot. Some positives from when I was there. I thought that Mega Dance had hot chicks only thing they weren't customers but rather the bottle girls or bikini chicks they had working this time I'm going to see if I can get one or a couple of them. Also I'm going to look on here and the Philippines site on what gogos have the best chicks. I'm going to find out if it's true they only give Koreans attention or if they'll go with a non Asian.The Mega Dance girls are scared to talk to customers because they're getting fired if they do business on the premises, have a note ready with your info on it and slip it to the girl when she passes by, you may get lucky.
The research into the bar beauties, and their locations, is useless, because everybody describing it here have different taste, and standards, also it seems that it's fluid and changes during the day. Just poke your head in, and see if it's to your liking or not.
Everybody complains about the LDs, personally I don't see what's the big deal in spending a few bucks for having an erotic conversation up close and personal with a beautiful young lady, even if it doesn't lead to nothing else. Try that in the West, and you end up arrested.
WestCoast1
12-16-24, 00:50
I'm making my 1st trip to AC / Manila arriving at 6:50 am on the United flight from SFO. I want to go directly to AC but am confused by all these T3, Bay 14. NAIA references. Is this Genesis bus the best way other than a private transport? SNIP Do I need to buy a ticket in advance?You don't buy a ticket in advance. The Genesis bus departs every hour; if one is full (rare), take the next one.
T3 = Terminal 3. The airport has 4 terminals. T3 has about 15 bays on the departure level. The outside bays (taxi area) are simply sequenced numbered areas for passenger pickup. The Genesis bus parks at T3, bay 14, drops off the inbound customers it just brought from AC, then sits and waits for customers to board who want to go to AC (you). Its about p400-p500 in cost. Grab a seat on the bus, and a conductor will come around and collect the fare.
If so, when I arrive where do I go to catch the bus at the airport?Be more specific. Where are you arriving: T1, T2, T3, T4? The terminals are not connected internally like other major airports. If you arrive at T3, then just collect your luggage and walk outside to the taxi area and find bay 14. If you think you are in the wrong place, ask anyone where the Genesis bus is located. If you are arriving at a different terminal, you will have to taxi from that terminal to T3, then find bay 14.
Is this Genesis bus the best way other than a private transport? Difficult to answer, and a question we've tackled previously. Private transport will run you about p3500 each way. Some taxi drivers can be had for p3000-4000 one way (you negotiate). The bus is the cheaper option. For private service, Google Beeway Travel (or search it in FB, they have a page there with their email and phone number), or do an Advanced Search here in ISG for their contact info that I've posted before. You pay in cash at the end of your ride (p3500 last time I used it), and if you arrange pickup prior to your trip, they are waiting for you at your terminal when you arrive.
ILuvBrownGirls
12-16-24, 00:54
The reasons are slowly fading away.
Fun and slim 19 yos left decades ago.
Cheap fucks left years ago.
A few recent report have even had girls turning their noses up at bareback.
G.I had a fun and slim 19 yo from fuck me three times overnight in Brass Knob in January. I definitely wasn't impressing her with my hotel. LOL.
Overall there is a noticeable decline on return on investment in AC since I was first there in 2010 but you can still get whatever you want. You just need to dig a little more.
NapaSlapper
12-16-24, 02:18
A few words on mega dance night club.
Mega dance is not a place one will find many prostitutes if any at all, its a disco that is popular with pinoys, pinoys that are mainly there with their wives, girlfriend, sisters, family on a night out.
Have been to mega on a number of occasions with pinoy friends and work collegues that have nothing to do with selling themselves, also a few times with korean friends and a group of our bar girls from xs bar or madonna bar for late night dancing.
Yes there is some pretty waitresses and staff but one should be very cautios in making a play or handing out ones numbers to such, why, well many of the cute staff at mega dance are in fact dating, married or relatives of those huge guys on the door called security who just love confrontation and handing out a possible beating to want to be casanovas who thought all pinays must be pros and up for earning extra cash in between the sheets, the same goes for girls that are in groups or mixed groups of pinoy customers.
Best to go to mega dance with ones own girls or to just dance and enjoy the music, as said its not a pick up joint, far from it.
FuriousGeorge
12-16-24, 04:53
Quick update but probably won't post a lot. Arrived Friday morning and took a private car from Beeway travel from Manila to Central Park Tower in AC. People say take the bus, but $60 usd for a nice ride alone is value to me. Hell I spend more than that on Ubers on a Saturday night.
Friday and Saturday were popping on WS and lots of girls at the bars. Lollipop was packed and all the girls were as close to naked as possible. Saw a few from last year. Quality was above average. Dollhouse has vastly improved. Some real stunners on the A team. Masquerade is great vibes but quality was fairly low except for two that I had already been with last year. Still bought one a drink and chatted. Qbar had surprisingly good talent, and if you want your dick rubbed this is the top spot. Lucifer also had above average talent. Lofty's is some new bar. Absolutely terrible talent and plenty of smoking. Blue Dragon, below average but the girls seemed friendly. Shooters was great. Barfined a hottie here who probably should have been paying me she got off so hard. Keeps texting me. Might repeat.
Saturday after some bar hopping I knew I wanted to check out Mega Dance. Got there around midnight and by 1 it was nuts. Counted about 20 stone cold tens. Insane talent. They are mostly in groups and have tables and it would take good looks and charm and some luck. I got touched, danced on, and approached plenty of times, but not by any of the aforementioned tens, so I tapped out around 2 and went to my favorite 24 hour massage place. Nice teasing rubdown and then a talented BJ and then she hopped on top for a nice slow finish. Transactional but good times. This will probably be my Saturday night routine unless I land one of those tens.
The Score Birds bikini competition was a good way to kill time on Sunday. 24 girls, way better talent than usual and 3 absolute stars. You can see where they work and go find them at a later date, which I plan to do. Nap and Kokomos and bars later. Barfined a standout from Lucifer who kept smiling at me from the stage. This girl was insatiable. So far both barfines have had fantastic skill sets. Both also left after a couple of hours, but I did give them that option since I prefer to sleep alone. No condoms mentioned. Love this place. I'm here for a full month. Maybe I'll venture to another city if I get bored, but so far, not even close.
WestCoast1
12-16-24, 07:03
T3 = Terminal 3. The airport has 4 terminals. T3 has about 15 bays on the departure level. Gents, should that have said arrival level?
Hey bro,
I'm coming for 2 weeks mid April.
Thanks for the great report. Was wondering what the 24 hour massage parlour is?
Quick update but probably won't post a lot. Arrived Friday morning and took a private car from Beeway travel from Manila to Central Park Tower in AC. People say take the bus, but $60 usd for a nice ride alone is value to me. Hell I spend more than that on Ubers on a Saturday night.
Friday and Saturday were popping on WS and lots of girls at the bars. Lollipop was packed and all the girls were as close to naked as possible. Saw a few from last year. Quality was above average. Dollhouse has vastly improved. Some real stunners on the A team. Masquerade is great vibes but quality was fairly low except for two that I had already been with last year. Still bought one a drink and chatted. Qbar had surprisingly good talent, and if you want your dick rubbed this is the top spot. Lucifer also had above average talent. Lofty's is some new bar. Absolutely terrible talent and plenty of smoking. Blue Dragon, below average but the girls seemed friendly. Shooters was great. Barfined a hottie here who probably should have been paying me she got off so hard. Keeps texting me. Might repeat.
Saturday after some bar hopping I knew I wanted to check out Mega Dance. Got there around midnight and by 1 it was nuts. Counted about 20 stone cold tens. Insane talent. They are mostly in groups and have tables and it would take good looks and charm and some luck. I got touched, danced on, and approached plenty of times, but not by any of the aforementioned tens, so I tapped out around 2 and went to my favorite 24 hour massage place. Nice teasing rubdown and then a talented BJ and then she hopped on top for a nice slow finish. Transactional but good times. This will probably be my Saturday night routine unless I land one of those tens..
You are over thinking it.
Your United flight will land in Manila NAIA Airport, Terminal 3. After passport control and baggage claim you will exit into the arrivals area. You can go left or right, it doesn't matter which way. Money exchangers will be in front of you. Change some money for the Genesis bus. 430 pesos is the fare.
Exit the arrivals area. Only one way out. Walk 10 feet, look up and you will see big letters BAY 6 or some number. Go to the right towards the higher numbers until you see BAY 14. Stop. Walk out to the median for BAY 14. There will be a Genesis kiosk. More than likely a big Genesis bus behind it.
You will land between 6 am-7 am. Genesis buses are at 7 am, 8 am and 9 am. You pay after you get on the bus. Tell the conductor you are going to SM Mall. At Sm Mall you can trike to your hotel.Update and Latest.
Genesis Bus kiosk has been moved to BAY 13. Yes BAY 13 now. A taxi stand has taken over BAY 14.
Once again as you exit Arrivals walk out 10 feet, look up to the large pillars holding up Departures level for BAY numbers in blue background, turn right, head for BAY 13, crossing over to the median. Tell them your stop, Dau or SM Clark or Clark Airport. Happy hunting.
Update and Latest.
Genesis Bus kiosk has been moved to BAY 13. Yes BAY 13 now. A taxi stand has taken over BAY 14.
Once again as you exit Arrivals walk out 10 feet, look up to the large pillars holding up Departures level for BAY numbers in blue background, turn right, head for BAY 13, crossing over to the median. Tell them your stop, Dau or SM Clark or Clark Airport. Happy hunting.Thanks to you & WC1 for the info on gettin to AC. I'll be hoppin the bus on Bay 13. Guess I will just do the reverse when gettin back to the airport for the next leg of my journey to BKK.
Guess I will just do the reverse when gettin back to the airport for the next leg of my journey to BKK.Avoid that trek. Go from Clark to BKK via Cebu Pacific.
I don't like the 7:25 pm departure time though. If you go to Pattaya, not sure if the bus is running that late. Just bite the bullet and pay the 1000 baht private taxi fare that goes directly to your Pattaya hotel.
I'm just wondering, why the preference for returning to the airport for Genesis over catching Victory in town? Traffic around NAIA can suck bigtime. Were you already staying close to the airport or do you prefer the SM Clark drop off vs Dau?
My thoughts exactly, and since CL was already in Ermita, why not take that Grab to Avenida (10 minute ride) and catch the 11 am (fare: p177) Rabbit Bus to AC which will stop at McDo's on Fields if you ask the conductor to do so.
Thanks to you & WC1 for the info on gettin to AC. I'll be hoppin the bus on Bay 13. Guess I will just do the reverse when gettin back to the airport for the next leg of my journey to BKK.Side note.
To enter all PH airports you will need to show ticket reservations in your name and ID. This is to just get into the airport terminal building. Screen shot of reservation will do with actual ID.
Printed boarding pass will also do.
Old And Ugly
12-19-24, 20:20
Side note.
To enter all PH airports you will need to show ticket reservations in your name and ID. This is to just get into the airport terminal building. Screen shot of reservation will do with actual ID.
Printed boarding pass will also do.That's always been the case in all the 3rd world countries.
That's always been the case in all the 3rd world countries.I have no idea about all other 3rd world countries.
Just a cautious word to the PH newbie.
Thanks to you & WC1 for the info on gettin to AC. I'll be hoppin the bus on Bay 13. Guess I will just do the reverse when gettin back to the airport for the next leg of my journey to BKK.Make sure of your departing Terminal number to BKK. Genesis bus stops first at T3, then T2 and finally T1. Could be 30 extra minutes from T3 to T1. Ask the conductor of the descending order.
Hey all, I'm from the USA I haven't gone trans-pacific yet as my sole previous mongering trip was to sao paolo, Brazil and Buenos Aires, Argentina. (if anyone is heading to those areas ID be happy to provide general info / contacts as well). Looking to expand with a trip to SEA, still a few months out but trying to get some good leads.
I'm not rly into super young girls or anything, age isn't rly a big deal but looking for girls who will swallow my load without making a fuss. I've also enjoyed giving golden showers in the past, as well as a bit of submissive stuff.
I'd appreciate leads if anyone has had these experiences in and around angeles city, if anyone is willing to share.
Would also be happy to meetup with anyone in the area.
Cheers!
Thanks to you & WC1 for the info on gettin to AC. I'll be hoppin the bus on Bay 13. Guess I will just do the reverse when gettin back to the airport for the next leg of my journey to BKK.Welcome. I along with others are looking forward to your trip report. The good, bad and ugly.
Avoid that trek. Go from Clark to BKK via Cebu Pacific.
I don't like the 7:25 pm departure time though. If you go to Pattaya, not sure if the bus is running that late. Just bite the bullet and pay the 1000 baht private taxi fare that goes directly to your Pattaya hotel.Damn, had no idea that Clark was an international airport, just assumed it was a relic of Clark Air Field from WW11. I've already bought a ticket on Thai Air leaving MNL on a Tuesday at 1:10 pm. Don't know what terminal it leaves from, my trip is more than a month away. Anyway, if it leaves from T3 with this 1:10 pm departure time what time should I board the Genesis bus in AC Tuesday morning to safely get me there in plenty of time to make my flight?
Expat American
12-21-24, 06:48
Hey all, I'm from the USA I haven't gone trans-pacific yet as my sole previous mongering trip was to sao paolo, Brazil and Buenos Aires, Argentina. (if anyone is heading to those areas ID be happy to provide general info / contacts as well). Looking to expand with a trip to SEA, still a few months out but trying to get some good leads.
I'm not rly into super young girls or anything, age isn't rly a big deal but looking for girls who will swallow my load without making a fuss. I've also enjoyed giving golden showers in the past, as well as a bit of submissive stuff.
I'd appreciate leads if anyone has had these experiences in and around angeles city, if anyone is willing to share.
Would also be happy to meetup with anyone in the area.
Cheers!Why not go to Thailand instead? Walk into any of the well known BJ bars or MPs and you will 100% get the swallow. GS will also be possible in places known for PSE like Tulip. Plus girls are prettier and there are a lot more of them. Cost is about the same anyway and there is other things like culture, great food and beaches in Thailand. If you are flying all the way from the US, don't go some third world shit hole which is long long past its hey day.
Damn, had no idea that Clark was an international airport, just assumed it was a relic of Clark Air Field from WW11. I've already bought a ticket on Thai Air leaving MNL on a Tuesday at 1:10 pm. Don't know what terminal it leaves from, my trip is more than a month away. Anyway, if it leaves from T3 with this 1:10 pm departure time what time should I board the Genesis bus in AC Tuesday morning to safely get me there in plenty of time to make my flight?Thai Airways flys out of NAIA Terminal 3. Genesis buses leave SM Mall, 6:30 am, 7:30 am, 8:30 am and 9:00 am for your purpose. The bus ride can be anywhere from 90 minutes to 3 hours depending on the traffic and day of the week. Sundays being the less traffic day.
The morning buses tend to be more full. Sometimes maxed out. I suggest you are there at least 30 minutes ahead of the scheduled departure time. The Thai plane is a big bird and probably a long check in line. Some times it can take 30-45 minutes to get through the T3 passport control and security.
With all that said, I suggest the 7:30 am bus in case it is full you can catch the 8:30 am bus and not stress out over it. BTW, there might be a man there manning the kiosk and if it is crowded he will take down names on the reservation list. The thin baldheaded man will do this. The other guys are worthless.
If you find yourself in T3 early after checking in and before passport control you can take the escalator up to the 4th floor for plenty of restaurants. BTW, a little opposite of Kenny Rogers is a foot / body massage place, a great way to kill some time.
Safe travels.
WestCoast1
12-21-24, 16:18
Damn, had no idea that Clark was an international airport, just assumed it was a relic of Clark Air Field from WW11. I've already bought a ticket on Thai Air leaving MNL on a Tuesday at 1:10 pm. Don't know what terminal it leaves from, my trip is more than a month away. Anyway, if it leaves from T3 with this 1:10 pm departure time what time should I board the Genesis bus in AC Tuesday morning to safely get me there in plenty of time to make my flight?Using the standard "Arrive 3 hours prior to an international flight" thing:
1) Departure NAIA 1:10 pm, arrive NAIA 10:10 am.
2) Depart SM Clark on the 8 am bus for the 2-hour trip, to arrive about 10 am NAIA.
3) Some might say that weekday traffic can be bad in Manila, so depart SM Clark an hour earlier on the 7 am bus to be safe. Arriving late for any reason and you're effed.
Arriving late for any reason and you're effed.
If you find yourself in T3 early after checking in and before passport control you can take the escalator up to the 4th floor for plenty of restaurants. BTW, a little opposite of Kenny Rogers is a foot / body massage place, a great way to kill some time.
Safe travels.There is also the Wings capsule hotel upstairs at T3. It's great for a rest or simply to get away from he crowds before take off. Note it is on the public side so you can check in but still need to go through immigration.
https://jipang-group.com/thewings/
I have zero faith in PH transport so I would be there for the early bus. Especially a newbie who is more likely to have a SNAFU and miss a bus, get off at the wrong terminal or the other 1000 things that can and do go wrong in the Phil's.
Hey all, I'm from the USA I haven't gone trans-pacific yet as my sole previous mongering trip was to sao paolo, Brazil and Buenos Aires, Argentina. (if anyone is heading to those areas ID be happy to provide general info / contacts as well). Looking to expand with a trip to SEA, still a few months out but trying to get some good leads.
I'm not rly into super young girls or anything, age isn't rly a big deal but looking for girls who will swallow my load without making a fuss. I've also enjoyed giving golden showers in the past, as well as a bit of submissive stuff.
I'd appreciate leads if anyone has had these experiences in and around angeles city, if anyone is willing to share.
Would also be happy to meetup with anyone in the area.
Cheers!If you don't mind spending 100 $ or more for some mediocre action after searching 5 or 10 bars, spending big Peso on ladydrinks and waking up next mornong alone in a shithole: go to AC.
If you wish simple fun, girls which are not prude but do all you want, be it swallow or a golden shower, easy to find not only in the bars but also on Thaifriendly or the many beer bars or even at the beach road: go to Pattaya.
Not to forget the better food, easy transport, modern hotels and and and.
And if you have the time: do a side trip to Jakarta: the massage parlors there are a not-to-miss for every Asian monger.
WestCoast1
12-22-24, 08:17
I have zero faith in PH transport so I would be there for the early bus. Especially a newbie who is more likely to SNIPNot everyone would agree with this, but I do. Long gone are my days of arriving at (any) airport 45 minutes prior to departure, racing thru to the security line with my online boarding pass and just a backpack, hoping I didn't miss a flight (I did). I always go to Manila the night before any flight out of NAIA, and I try to plan my departure flights on weekends, specifically Sundays. Previously Saturdays and Sundays, the traffic was light. But since the covid re-opening, Saturday traffic can be just as crappy as Monday-Friday.
Especially a newbie who is more likely to have a SNAFU and miss a bus, get off at the wrong terminal or the other 1000 things that can and do go wrong in the Phil's.Newb or not, any number of traffic-related items can stop a caravan in its tracks in Phils. Not only in Manila, but anywhere. Traffic is light, but a particular surface street is torn up due to construction (for months on end), another street in the area is flooded, and yet another street has a large lorry or delivery truck that tried to make a left turn but couldn't make it, can not back up (or tried to), and is completely blocking all lanes of traffic. A dozen ways to find a traffic cluster-f*ck just driving around Phils. Your bus (or private taxi) is not immune.
I think it was last year, about June / July, that a number of us here reported that due to a tropical storm over more than a week, an ongoing flood happened across the expressway, causing 8-9-10 hour drives from AC to Manila for an entire week. See pic. At the time, the normal 10 minute ride from my hotel near WS to the freeway took an hour (blue line), the normal 35-45 minute ride from the AC freeway entrance to San Fernando (red line) took about 6 hours (highway parking lot), and just past SF on the freeway we finally hit the flooded area. Traffic had slowed at the flooded area to just a few KM / H, gumming up the southbound traffic to the north behind us all the way past AC. The water was flowing across the highway at a 90 degree angle, moving slowly, and it was only about 30 meters to go thru. After that, we all accelerated to highway speed, and the rest of the trip to Makati (green line) took less than an hour. I was in a private taxi. The driver had to drop me at my hotel, then head to NAIA to pick up a waiting passenger to take him back to AC.
One never knows.
NapaSlapper
12-22-24, 14:04
Well we are into Angeles peak tourist season, barhop Saturday night 21.12.24 between 7 pm and 10 pm.
Atlantis bar, dead, a handful of below average plumpers and two customers (Asians).
Carousel bar, 3 fat old expats sitting outside at the barrel tables, no other customers, no lookers (girls).
Dollhouse bar, 2 fat older greeter girls outside, popped our heads in but never stayed because girls inside were worse than outside.
Hera bar, one cubby greeter girls outside, half a dozen girls inside playing on their phones, moved on.
Geckos bar, a very over weight door girl in grey dress sitting on stool outside, very quiet inside for girls and punters.
Lollipop bar, an even fatter door girl than geckos bar sitting on a stool outside in a black dress, in truth she needed two stool to park that huge bum, thought bars were meant to put the pretties and slimmer girls outside to attract punters to go inside, guess lollipop must be having a hard time employing slim girls because it was not much better inside,1 drink and got the hell out.
Shooters bar, stayed for the one drink, very quiet but one girl was at least fairly slim and ok looking, friend bought her a lady drink but she claimed to have mens when asked about bar fine, usual excuse.
Slightly Better bars.
Q bar, Avalon bar, shooters bar, at least they had some punters in (Koreans) lack of slim ok looking girls but at least these bars had a couple of fairly slim ok girls in each, as normal, already drinking with Koreans.
Xs bar, wow, many many girls are missing from the line up in this bar. Usually have multiple dance shows, multiple black tape girls, this night management was struggling to even put on any shows so low were girl numbers, normally 60-70 odd girls working here, but not tonight, still the busiest bar of all walking street for punters (Koreans) and girls but way quieter than normal.
Two cute massage girls standing in the street outside of old bar, offered massage but hell they looked young, probably too young, moved on.
In summing up I have not seen Angeles this quiet ever, some Koreans around, very few westerner tourists and girl numbers way down seems Angeles has fallen out of favour with many westerners this supposed high season, highlight of the night, Korean food on way home.
Vagabundo1
12-22-24, 20:44
Dandyman, send Vagabundo1 a PM. Let's catch up. Hope you are well.
Disclaimer: I am writing this while still somewhat drunk from the night. Please excuse any typos or incoherencies.
My last night in Angeles City and the Philippines. I message fellow ISG member Jusride, a solid wingman who I recommend to anyone else on this board, who is going to barfine one of his favorite girls from dollhouse and take her to dinner. We plan on meeting for barhopping later. I decide to go out at around 7:30, a bit early in my opinion but I wanted to see if I could get a girl early. To my surprise I see a number of guys, mainly Koreans, with some very nice eye candy on my trike ride to walking street. In my mind, I think that there must be something special about tonight with so many attractive girls available. Even as I get to walking street I see a number of attractive girls with guys. As I walk into some of the bars, my opinion quickly changes. It was rather bad. Perhaps one of the worst nights I have seen since I have come to AC. I stop by a number of bars, some just to see the selection and some where I have a drink (San Mig Light). Though I don't find anything I particularly like. In my travels I learn that 10 girls have been barfined from XS (an hour after they opened) and 5 girls have been barfined from Avalon in a similar timeframe which explains some of the attractive girls I saw during my entrance to walking street. My final stop is Avalon which I have posted on before. I sit down with a beer and ask for A, my previous multiple time barfine. I am told that she isn't feeling well and is not available and that she will be performing but will likely go home after her performances. Perhaps this is true, perhaps I pissed her off the last time we met, I don't know but it appears I would not be having A for my last night. I sit to watch some performances and in the mean time Jusride finds me in Avalon and sits with me with his girl. I call another girl from the stage over and we talk for a bit. She finishes her drink and she tells me she is going to the bathroom. She goes to the bathroom but then immediately goes back on stage. To me this is unacceptable. I would have considered barfining her but this kind of behavior to me indicates and negative experiences in the future. I continue watching shows and I find one girl I like but am told she is on her period. After the second show, Jusride and his girl head to dollhouse while I stay for the third show. After the third show I am told there will be a fourth and final show for the night after which the dancers will come on stage and be available either for drinks or barfine, depending on the girl. I decide I have had enough. There were some pretty dancers but at this point I have had enough alcohol to be ok with not taking a girl home. I was pretty close to falling asleep and frankly I preferred saving my pesos rather than risk a negative experience. I visited Jusride in dollhouse where his girl tried to hook me up with a girl there. I passed and quickly left to go back to my hotel where I now lie on my bed to write this report. I messaged A on facebook to get some closure on my side as I hoped to at least say a goodbye to her today. Honestly, I write this report as my own personal catharsis rather than trying to add any sort of value to the forum. Though I hope some others may find some useful information from here.
In the end, in AC there are good days and there are bad days. There seems to be some debate between forum users on how good it is in AC and I can understand both sides of it. Some days there are tons of pretty girls and you have a great experience with one of them. Some days you take a pretty girl out, think you did all the right things, only for the experience to be bad once you hit the bedroom. Some days you realize that all the good talent was scooped up by 7 PM and you have little to work with. Depending on the trip and your luck, you may find that some or all of these things happen to you. I wish I had better closure to the trip but in the end I think this was the push I needed to explore other places. I will be travelling to HK tomorrow and potentially to Thailand after that. I have heard from many that Pattaya is better than AC and Bangkok than Manila so I hope to see for myself.
Happy Mongering to all.
Update: A replied back to my facebook message and was sorry about not being able to see me though promised to call when she felt better.
Old And Ugly
12-22-24, 23:54
Well we are into Angeles peak tourist season, barhop Saturday night 21.12.24 between 7 pm and 10 pm.
Atlantis bar, dead, a handful of below average plumpers and two customers (Asians).
Carousel bar, 3 fat old expats sitting outside at the barrel tables, no other customers, no lookers (girls).
Dollhouse bar, 2 fat older greeter girls outside, popped our heads in but never stayed because girls inside were worse than outside.
Hera bar, one cubby greeter girls outside, half a dozen girls inside playing on their phones, moved on.
Geckos bar, a very over weight door girl in grey dress sitting on stool outside, very quiet inside for girls and punters.
Lollipop bar, an even fatter door girl than geckos bar sitting on a stool outside in a black dress, in truth she needed two stool to park that huge bum, thought bars were meant to put the pretties and slimmer girls outside to attract punters to go inside, guess lollipop must be having a hard time employing slim girls because it was not much better inside,1 drink and got the hell out.
Shooters bar, stayed for the one drink, very quiet but one girl was at least fairly slim and ok looking, friend bought her a lady drink but she claimed to have mens when asked about bar fine, usual excuse.
Slightly Better bars.
Q bar, Avalon bar, shooters bar, at least they had some punters in (Koreans) lack of slim ok looking girls but at least these bars had a couple of fairly slim ok girls in each, as normal, already drinking with Koreans.
Xs bar, wow, many many girls are missing from the line up in this bar. Usually have multiple dance shows, multiple black tape girls, this night management was struggling to even put on any shows so low were girl numbers, normally 60-70 odd girls working here, but not tonight, still the busiest bar of all walking street for punters (Koreans) and girls but way quieter than normal.
Two cute massage girls standing in the street outside of old bar, offered massage but hell they looked young, probably too young, moved on.
In summing up I have not seen Angeles this quiet ever, some Koreans around, very few westerner tourists and girl numbers way down seems Angeles has fallen out of favour with many westerners this supposed high season, highlight of the night, Korean food on way home.Maybe they are all home for the holydays.
Club Atlantis used to be so busy, that you couldn't even enter, forget about finding a seat. Here are some pics from the old times when they were doing blowjob contests on stage, and the place was packed, and yes cameras were allowed. I cannot understand how some idiot that put lots of money into it to buy it can ruin it like it is now, unless it's all used as a front for some big money laundering scheme.
Cameras were not very performant back then, therefore the bad quality of pics.
NapaSlapper
12-23-24, 01:52
Maybe they are all home for the holydays.
Club Atlantis used to be so busy, that you couldn't even enter, forget about finding a seat. Here are some pics from the old times when they were doing blowjob contests on stage, and the place was packed, and yes cameras were allowed. I cannot understand how some idiot that put lots of money into it to buy it can ruin it like it is now, unless it's all used as a front for some big money laundering scheme.
Cameras were not very performant back then, therefore the bad quality of pics.Thanks for the photos of atlantis bar, I was at the opening night some 20 years ago, for many years atlantis held the number 1 spot with over 200 slim young great looking girls, most nights one could close his eyes reach out and any girl he happened to touch would have been a high quality bar fine, I remember bar fines all night were 1,200 peso from atlantis bar and can't think of a visit when I did not leave with a few girls in tow.
Lets not forget bars like crystal palace, club asia, carousel, and many more that also had well over a hundred girls in any night each bar, angeles at one time many moons ago was a must visit destination with so much choice it was like being in a candy shop.
Lets not forget the 40-50 odd bars of perimeter road that were also packed with multiple lookers for day time fun.
Bars like pony tails, dee bar, insomnia bar, cherries bar, sunshine bar, lost in asia bar, road house bar, after school bar, mirrors bar and so many others, lets not forget also the multiple blow job bars or the bars with upstairs rooms for a quickie, in truth there is not one single bar girl of today that could even dream of getting employment in even the smallest bar of years back so high was the quality then and so low now.
As far as what's going on with ownership of angeles walking st bars of today then lets just say many don't need to sell drinks and pussy to serve their purpose, enough said.
I have been here for almost a month getting medical treatment and getting non working girls. I am throwing little party on Christmas for women who deserve it and for some who have nowhere else to go. Often they head to relatives for Christmas as it is one of those times folk feel they must be with family. Now, all they have is me and I am half out of it with all kinds of ailments kicking in.
To cap it off, I have a bad case of food poisoning from the local food. All my girls are like my mother. They see me as harmless gran papa, which hardly helps my sex ego.
These Bombay 5-6 money lenders seem to be a curse and should be beaten up back to India but the government does not care. Such a God forsaken country. Happy Christmas my ass.
Old And Ugly
12-23-24, 14:47
I have been here for almost a month getting medical treatment and getting non working girls. I am throwing little party on Christmas for women who deserve it and for some who have nowhere else to go. Often they head to relatives for Christmas as it is one of those times folk feel they must be with family. Now, all they have is me and I am half out of it with all kinds of ailments kicking in.
To cap it off, I have a bad case of food poisoning from the local food. All my girls are like my mother. They see me as harmless gran papa, which hardly helps my sex ego.
These Bombay 5-6 money lenders seem to be a curse and should be beaten up back to India but the government does not care. Such a God forsaken country. Happy Christmas my ass.Just made a quick run to Germany myself about a month ago to have some major repairs done, getting old sucks.
I wish you speedy recovery, don't give up.
I have been here for almost a month getting medical treatment and getting non working girls. I am throwing little party on Christmas for women who deserve it and for some who have nowhere else to go. Often they head to relatives for Christmas as it is one of those times folk feel they must be with family. Now, all they have is me and I am half out of it with all kinds of ailments kicking in.
To cap it off, I have a bad case of food poisoning from the local food. All my girls are like my mother. They see me as harmless gran papa, which hardly helps my sex ego.
These Bombay 5-6 money lenders seem to be a curse and should be beaten up back to India but the government does not care. Such a God forsaken country. Happy Christmas my ass.Enjoy all you can. You won't find this kind of lovely treatment and love anywhere else. Continue to bless them back.
Not everyone would agree with this, but I do. Long gone are my days of arriving at (any) airport 45 minutes prior to departure, racing thru to the security line with my online boarding pass and just a backpack, hoping I didn't miss a flight (I did). I always go to Manila the night before any flight out of NAIA, and I try to plan my departure flights on weekends, specifically Sundays. Previously Saturdays and Sundays, the traffic was light. But since the covid re-opening, Saturday traffic can be just as crappy as Monday-Friday.
Newb or not, any number of traffic-related items can stop a caravan in its tracks in Phils. Not only in Manila, but anywhere. Traffic is light, but a particular surface street is torn up due to construction (for months on end), another street in the area is flooded, and yet another street has a large lorry or delivery truck that tried to make a left turn but couldn't make it, can not back up (or tried to), and is completely blocking all lanes of traffic. A dozen ways to find a traffic cluster-f*ck just driving around Phils. Your bus (or private taxi) is not immune.
I think it was last year, about June / July, that a number of us here reported that due to a tropical storm over more than a week, an ongoing flood happened across the expressway, causing 8-9-10 hour drives from AC to Manila for an entire week. See pic. At the time, the normal 10 minute ride from my hotel near WS to the freeway took an hour (blue line), the normal 35-45 minute ride from the AC freeway entrance to San Fernando (red line) took about 6 hours (highway parking lot), and just past SF on the freeway we finally hit the flooded area. Traffic had slowed at the flooded area to just a few KM / H, gumming up the southbound traffic to the north behind us all the way past AC. The water was flowing across the highway at a 90 degree angle, moving slowly, and it was only about 30 meters to go thru. After that, we all accelerated to highway speed, and the rest of the trip to Makati (green line) took less than an hour. I was in a private taxi. The driver had to drop me at my hotel, then head to NAIA to pick up a waiting passenger to take him back to AC.
One never knows.Great advice.
A year ago I was on a flight from a province city to Manila. The takeoff was delayed for 2 hours due to weather. Once the skies cleared the flight was delayed again for hours as the Manila runway and gates were overloaded. As a foreigner I was recognized by another foreign and he started to complain excessively to me as he had departing flight later that evening to back to the home country.
As it turned out he missed his flight home that evening. He had to pay big time for a new flight the next day. He complained that he had to get back to work after landing and that he could lose his job if he was late by a day. I thought the guy was going to have a heart attack. It was stressful just to listen to him. Why he didn't plan for an extra day was beyond me.
Me on the other hand was spending the night in Manila and flying home the next day. I always stay the night before in a hotel near T3. I always have one of my proven AC performers spend the night with me before my flight out. In the morning we go to T3, I check in for my flight and she hops on the Genesis bus to AC. One girl will go to visit her family in Manila. I had girls that I paid the barfine and we rode the bus to Manila together in the afternoon and they were back to work the next day. FYI Savoy and Holiday Inn Express do not ask for the girl's ID's. You can book a room for 2 and only check in with your ID. Savoy's breakfast is better than Holiday Inn. Holiday Inn's room and bathroom is better than Savoy's.
Old And Ugly
12-24-24, 09:54
Great advice.
A year ago I was on a flight from a province city to Manila. The takeoff was delayed for 2 hours due to weather. Once the skies cleared the flight was delayed again for hours as the Manila runway and gates were overloaded. As a foreigner I was recognized by another foreign and he started to complain excessively to me as he had departing flight later that evening to back to the home country.
As it turned out he missed his flight home that evening. He had to pay big time for a new flight the next day. He complained that he had to get back to work after landing and that he could lose his job if he was late by a day. I thought the guy was going to have a heart attack. It was stressful just to listen to him. Why he didn't plan for an extra day was beyond me.
Me on the other hand was spending the night in Manila and flying home the next day. I always stay the night before in a hotel near T3. I always have one of my proven AC performers spend the night with me before my flight out. In the morning we go to T3, I check in for my flight and she hops on the Genesis bus to AC. One girl will go to visit her family in Manila. I had girls that I paid the barfine and we rode the bus to Manila together in the afternoon and they were back to work the next day. FYI Savoy and Holiday Inn Express do not ask for the girl's ID's. You can book a room for 2 and only check in with your ID. Savoy's breakfast is better than Holiday Inn. Holiday Inn's room and bathroom is better than Savoy's.Few years back before moving to PH I was flying from Surigao to Manila, and my international flight was the next day, so I thought that I left a pretty good margin of error, but due to adverse weather all the flights were cancelled for that day, and the next day the flight was delayed, of course I missed my flight to the US, and I had to buy another ticket. Since that day, I modified the way I operate in the PH, especially if I'm on some small island, and may depend also on the sea conditions.
WestCoast1
12-24-24, 15:30
Few years back before moving to PH I was flying from Surigao to Manila, and my international flight was the next day, so I thought that I left a pretty good margin of error, but due to adverse weather all the flights were cancelled for that day, and the next day the flight was delayed, of course I missed my flight to the US, and I had to buy another ticket. Since that day, I modified the way I operate in the PH, especially if I'm on some small island, and may depend also on the sea conditions.
A year ago I was on a flight from a province city to Manila. The takeoff was delayed for 2 hours due to weather. Once the skies cleared the flight was delayed again for hours as the Manila runway and gates were overloaded. As a foreigner I was recognized by another foreign and he started to complain excessively to me as he had departing flight later that evening to back to the home country.
As it turned out he missed his flight home that evening. He had to pay big time for a new flight the next day. He complained that he had to get back to work after landing and that he could lose his job if he was late by a day. I thought the guy was going to have a heart attack. It was stressful just to listen to him. Why he didn't plan for an extra day was beyond me.The best laid plans of mice and men.
Since that day, I modified the way I operate in the PH, especially if I'm on some small island, and may depend also on the sea conditions.I've been stuck on an island several times due to winds blowing up and boats being stopped. However, this is very rarely without notice. Weather forecast are easily available and the whole tone of the town changes. Once people start battening down, if you have a deadline, then it's time to leave.
I'll arrive half a day or even overnight early for a flight but wouldn't worry about anymore than that. Obviously, each to Thier own depending on how risk adverse anyone is.
Cheers. G.
Old And Ugly
12-24-24, 22:51
I've been stuck on an island several times due to winds blowing up and boats being stopped. However, this is very rarely without notice. Weather forecast are easily available and the whole tone of the town changes. Once people start battening down, if you have a deadline, then it's time to leave.
I'll arrive half a day or even overnight early for a flight but wouldn't worry about anymore than that. Obviously, each to Thier own depending on how risk adverse anyone is.
Cheers. G.I don't use Facebook, and it seems that the whole PH alert system is based on that, so I always miss the essential info that's being passed around there. But now that I have a live in GF, I don't have to worry about that kind of stuff anymore, she knows everything, even stuff that didn't happened yet.
Quick update but probably won't post a lot. Arrived Friday morning and took a private car from Beeway travel from Manila to Central Park Tower in AC. People say take the bus, but $60 usd for a nice ride alone is value to me. Hell I spend more than that on Ubers on a Saturday night.
Friday and Saturday were popping on WS and lots of girls at the bars. Lollipop was packed and all the girls were as close to naked as possible. Saw a few from last year. Quality was above average. Dollhouse has vastly improved. Some real stunners on the A team. Masquerade is great vibes but quality was fairly low except for two that I had already been with last year. Still bought one a drink and chatted. Qbar had surprisingly good talent, and if you want your dick rubbed this is the top spot. Lucifer also had above average talent. Lofty's is some new bar. Absolutely terrible talent and plenty of smoking. Blue Dragon, below average but the girls seemed friendly. Shooters was great. Barfined a hottie here who probably should have been paying me she got off so hard. Keeps texting me. Might repeat.
Saturday after some bar hopping I knew I wanted to check out Mega Dance. Got there around midnight and by 1 it was nuts. Counted about 20 stone cold tens. Insane talent. They are mostly in groups and have tables and it would take good looks and charm and some luck. I got touched, danced on, and approached plenty of times, but not by any of the aforementioned tens, so I tapped out around 2 and went to my favorite 24 hour massage place. Nice teasing rubdown and then a talented BJ and then she hopped on top for a nice slow finish. Transactional but good times. This will probably be my Saturday night routine unless I land one of those tens.
The Score Birds bikini competition was a good way to kill time on Sunday. 24 girls, way better talent than usual and 3 absolute stars. You can see where they work and go find them at a later date, which I plan to do. Nap and Kokomos and bars later. Barfined a standout from Lucifer who kept smiling at me from the stage. This girl was insatiable. So far both barfines have had fantastic skill sets. Both also left after a couple of hours, but I did give them that option since I prefer to sleep alone. No condoms mentioned. Love this place. I'm here for a full month. Maybe I'll venture to another city if I get bored, but so far, not even close.Whoa, everything was all good until the poster mentions "no condoms mentioned" . Wow, unbelievable. I've been going to AC and lived in Pattaya for years and would never ever bare back any sex workers. Appalling behavior. No respect for the girls health and just want your nut they way you want it. Are you not educated to the many STD's you can get. Not to mention HIV? . even if you are on PREP you still can get Gonorrhea, Clymidia, Syphilis and then give it to the other girls you bareback along the way. If you could, please leave us a list of your victims so I can warn them or steer clear for my own heaths sake. Just appalling behavior. Leaving wreckage in your wake of getting your nut. How hard is it to put on a condom? So wrong man.
Old And Ugly
12-29-24, 00:31
After roaming thru the "entertainment" area of Davao last night, I can tell that there is no place like AC in the PH, with it's the good, the bad and the ugly. (at least for me).
After roaming thru the "entertainment" area of Davao last night, I can tell that there is no place like AC in the PH, with it's the good, the bad and the ugly. (at least for me).Simple shopping at its best. Welcome the new class of 2025!
LoveItHere69
12-29-24, 09:30
I did not get trapped on an island. I was trying to get to one.
Generally speaking I make my plans using this guide:
Dry season Nov. Apr = explore small islands.
Wet season May. Oct = do not get trappped on a small island.
WestCoast1
12-29-24, 17:56
Whoa, everything was all good until the poster mentions "no condoms mentioned" . Wow, unbelievable. I've been going to AC and lived in Pattaya for years and would never ever bare back any sex workers. As is your 'good judgement' prerogative.
Appalling behavior. FG's 'good judgement' prerogative might be different than yours. Proselytizing regarding condom use (or the lack of) violates board policy*.
No respect for the girls health and just want your nut they way you want it. This is the AC thread. The near-entirety of the gogo bar system in both AC and on Burgos has historically been built on tons of girls willing to forgo (or even not want) any form of BC. The consensus of most board members is that Filipinas in general are somewhat averse to condom use. Many gents prefer Phils for this exact reason.
Are you not educated to the many STD's you can get. Pretty sure FG (and the rest of us) are so educated.
Not to mention HIV? . even if you are on PREP you still can get Gonorrhea, Clymidia, Syphilis and then give it to the other girls you bareback along the way. You forgot to mention pregnancy issues, and misspelled chlamydia.
If you could, please leave us a list of your victims so I can warn them or steer clear for my own heaths sake. Good luck. Gogo girls are often known as 'cum-buckets'. The AC gogo girl who agreed to barfine with you this evening and use a condom with you, might have just returned to the bar just before you met her, from a barfine with the guy who short-timed her bareback and popped her twice. Its a dicey situation.
Just appalling behavior. Leaving wreckage in your wake of getting your nut. This discussion comes up on an infrequent, but cyclical basis. Phils is not for everyone.
* http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?1786-Photo-Gallery&p=1149954&viewfull=1#post1149954.
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It does no good to criticize members for not following what other members may consider to be safe sex practices for the following reasons:
1. It's a disincentive for members to contribute.
2. It never serves to change any one's behavior.
3. It almost always leads to arguments.
4. It provides a "cover" for Serial Antagonists to provoke other members.
To address the usual arguments:
1. If a guy wants to engage in sex without using a condom, that's his risk and his business.
2. If a girl wants to engage in sex without using a condom, that's her risk and her business.
3. If YOU want to protect yourself from either or both of the aforementioned parties, then YOU should use a condom for sex all the time and thus YOU will be protected from the allegedly unsafe sex practices of the other parties.
Walker groups appear to be very popular in Manila. Does anybody know of any groups on Facebook or Telegram for students / walkers in AC? Just looking for alternatives to the bars.
FuriousGeorge
12-30-24, 04:00
I know this doesn't belong here but I'd like to respond. Believe me I am highly informed on the STIs one can get and how one can get them. Condoms don't prevent some of them (HPV / HSV), and you can take pharmaceutical preventative measures to seriously mitigate the risk of the others (which I do while I'm here). I've also had a vasectomy. I've never gotten anything (yes, anecdotal). As always, life is risk / reward. Do what you can to mitigate risk, judge the reward, and make a decision for YOU.
That is a huge reason why guys come here. Hell some guy was jabbering away about it on the rail at Kokomos last night. I found him to be annoying.
Yes AC is quieter this week but there's still no shortage of hot girls. It is true that if you go early there's a better selection. Which sucks for me because I like to eat around 8 and go out around 9. Reports of 'only fat girls' are ridiculous. I prefer skinny / fit and have always found someone. All one has to do is watch a YouTube video of a stroll down WS on a Saturday night and you'll get the vibe. Weather currently is fantastic. Today there's light rain but the last 2 weeks have been mostly overcast and breezy. The White Party at Aqua on NYE should be fun. Although it's best to bring a date which I will probably do.
FuriousGeorge
12-30-24, 05:05
One other thing I thought was interesting is that last night one of my bargirl girlfriends (I was about to name the bar but maybe I shouldn't) told me that you can 'close down' the bar for 200 k pesos, and it's been done before. They lock the doors and all the girls get naked and drinks flow and it certainly sounded like sexual activities go down, although I didn't specifically confirm those details. Now obviously that sounds like a lot, but think about what that would cost you to do in Vegas.
Expat American
12-30-24, 07:09
Whoa, everything was all good until the poster mentions "no condoms mentioned" . Wow, unbelievable. I've been going to AC and lived in Pattaya for years and would never ever bare back any sex workers. Appalling behavior. No respect for the girls health and just want your nut they way you want it. Are you not educated to the many STD's you can get. Not to mention HIV? . even if you are on PREP you still can get Gonorrhea, Clymidia, Syphilis and then give it to the other girls you bareback along the way. If you could, please leave us a list of your victims so I can warn them or steer clear for my own heaths sake. Just appalling behavior. Leaving wreckage in your wake of getting your nut. How hard is it to put on a condom? So wrong man.I find it hard to believe that someone going to AC for years has just suddenly realized that all the girls fuck bareback all the time. LOL.
Old And Ugly
12-30-24, 11:02
One other thing I thought was interesting is that last night one of my bargirl girlfriends (I was about to name the bar but maybe I shouldn't) told me that you can 'close down' the bar for 200 k pesos, and it's been done before. They lock the doors and all the girls get naked and drinks flow and it certainly sounded like sexual activities go down, although I didn't specifically confirm those details. Now obviously that sounds like a lot, but think about what that would cost you to do in Vegas.I got the girls, but here in Davao on the NYE there will be absolutely nothing happening, so in a moment of bad judgment (maybe) I bought 3 tickets to AC.
Maybe I BF 2-3 more girls, and well have a mini harem NYE orgy.
I would like to know what bar can be had for 200 k.
4000 $ is not astronomical, but is too much for right now, who knows when I feel that the end is near, I may do that once, or twice a week, I don't wanna be known as the richest one in the cemetery.
NapaSlapper
12-30-24, 13:06
One other thing I thought was interesting is that last night one of my bargirl girlfriends (I was about to name the bar but maybe I shouldn't) told me that you can 'close down' the bar for 200 k pesos, and it's been done before. They lock the doors and all the girls get naked and drinks flow and it certainly sounded like sexual activities go down, although I didn't specifically confirm those details. Now obviously that sounds like a lot, but think about what that would cost you to do in Vegas.Best advice, don't believe all that you hear in the phills especially from bar girls.
Always find that when Angeles bar girl lips are moving they are normally 99% lying or bullshitting, its a national past time here in the phills.
Feel that wild claims of closing down bars and all girls getting naked is a prime example of this.
One other thing I thought was interesting is that last night one of my bargirl girlfriends (I was about to name the bar but maybe I shouldn't) told me that you can 'close down' the bar for 200 k pesos, and it's been done before. They lock the doors and all the girls get naked and drinks flow and it certainly sounded like sexual activities go down, although I didn't specifically confirm those details. Now obviously that sounds like a lot, but think about what that would cost you to do in Vegas.I won't mention the bar's name either. But it was posted as closed down before by a stroller when it was actually booked solid for the night by a single American and not by a Korean. 200 k pesos was the price for all the girls and drinks for the night. I believe the guy has done it more than twice. Usually about 30-40 girls working there.
200 k at today's exchange rate = less then $3500. I, myself wouldn't do it but I have known people in the states spending that much in less than a few hours in a strip club. Here you get 6 pm and on to?
Old And Ugly
12-31-24, 04:36
Best advice, don't believe all that you hear in the phills especially from bar girls.
Always find that when Angeles bar girl lips are moving they are normally 99% lying or bullshitting, its a national past time here in the phills.
Feel that wild claims of closing down bars and all girls getting naked is a prime example of this.Had that once, it's true that it was a bit different, was a bar on perimeter, was around closing time, there were only 5 girls (my then GF, her barmaid friend, and 3 dancers), I only got a group BJ fully clothed, and I didn't pay for it. That was the first and only, and was not planned.
Old And Ugly
12-31-24, 05:01
Anybody can offer a bit more info on this? Are reservations needed? Is it prepaid?
Or are there any other organized events in any other bars on NYE?
I'll be arriving in the evening, so not much time to search around for the best place to be.
I won't mention the bar's name either.Many years ago, when Atlantis was the top club, there was an infamous party there. Girls still remembered it a year later. A Hawaiian and some other guy rented out the place. Can't remember how much; it wasn't that bad. I heard that they made it rain with $20 and 1000 peso bills. The manager said that fee amount pays the barfine for everyone at the club (including the service staff).
About a year ago, the Q Bar was closed for a private party. Obvious as I walked by it.
FuriousGeorge
12-31-24, 07:29
It is the best party by far. No need for reservations but I wouldn't arrive much later than 9 or the line will be long. You get a bracelet and you pay when you leave. You need looks and game to pull girls from here because it's mostly rich kids, foreigners, and barfined girls. You need at least a white shirt or they won't let you in. Last year the exit line got held up because a gringo picked up 3 LBs at the party and was confused by the exit fee (girls are 500, guys 1000). Manager had to take him aside and explain and his eyes got wide and he ran for the elevator.
Anybody can offer a bit more info on this? Are reservations needed? Is it prepaid?
Or are there any other organized events in any other bars on NYE?
I'll be arriving in the evening, so not much time to search around for the best place to be.
NapaSlapper
12-31-24, 08:59
Funny how some on here claim all sorts as truth but refuse to name names.
Closing down a bar to have a private party is of course possible.
What is not possible is bargirls to be naked or indulging in sex on the premises at said party, why, well read the phills republic act number 10364 of 2013 (human traffic law) for exactly why not, flout the law and get caught and one might possibly spend the next 20-40 years behind bars that goes for bar owners and punters, or alternately one will be forced to pay a massive usd bribe to possibly not see the slammer, its as simple as that.
For those that will say yes but the laws exists but are not adhered to then please explain why so many bars were raided and closed down since the 10364 laws came into law in 2013 (almost all bars), why bars are still being raided, even this year, think gold moon bar (3 times), bar nana, madonna bar (2 times) and of course vikings bar that was also raided and ordered closed for good, vikings bar allowed to reopen only after ownership change, new licences approved etc which cost multiple thousands of usd in lost revenue, new set up and of course the customary bribes, now please explain why any bar that cost masses of money to set up would take the big chance of getting raided for the relative small money of a one off party, exactly, common sense tells us they clearly are not.
P,s,for those of us that were around before the new human traffic laws were introduced then full nudity, blow jobs, sex in the bar, lock downs where orgies took place were the norm, those that were around way back were the lucky ones, never to be repeated unfortunately.
Thanks and happy new year peeps.
NapaSlapper
12-31-24, 10:23
Anybody can offer a bit more info on this? Are reservations needed? Is it prepaid?
Or are there any other organized events in any other bars on NYE?
I'll be arriving in the evening, so not much time to search around for the best place to be.Going by previous years then no organised events put on by the angeles bars, most bars also close well before midnight due to low customers and giving a chance to the bargirls to see the new year in with loved ones / family. Beware of the crazies and drunks letting off fireworks near passing folk on the street.
Aqua club on NYE can be boring and expensive, expect lots of asians with their bar fines, a very few expats and their wives, partners, well to do friends of the owners and mainly well to do pinoy couples.
As said, need to be dressed smart, normally long pants and the customary white dress shirt, stopped attending couple of years back due to boredom.
This year, at the hilton hotel right on pattaya beach and got a room directly opposite the massive fireworks display set for midnight, looks like live music is set up on massive stages on beach road too, ordering room service and a couple of bottles of bubbly and enjoy my partners company on the balcony. Contented.
P,s, pattaya packed, mostly western tourists but also plenty of teenage thai beauties getting ready for the music and fireworks.
Old And Ugly
12-31-24, 12:18
Just got here looks semi deserted no girls no Koreans only foreigners.
Just got here looks semi deserted no girls no Koreans only foreigners.Its Angeles City, Mr. Happy will soon be happy.
WestCoast1
12-31-24, 16:44
How hard is it to put on a condom? So wrong man.
I find it hard to believe that someone going to AC for years has just suddenly realized that all the girls fuck bareback all the time. LOL.That one guy. The one who was on about the condoms. Don't tell him about this. Keep it on the DL.
Expat American
12-31-24, 17:56
P,s,for those of us that were around before the new human traffic laws were introduced then full nudity, blow jobs, sex in the bar, lock downs where orgies took place were the norm, those that were around way back were the lucky ones, never to be repeated unfortunately.
Thanks and happy new year peeps.And you didn't have to pay 4000 USD for the pleasure either!
Just got here looks semi deserted no girls no Koreans only foreigners.Hope you had a good NYE with your girls.
Did anyone see Regular Guy's livestream from Walking Street down to Phillies? It was a ghost town. So few punters that guys were firing fireworks down the street.
G.
One other thing I thought was interesting is that last night one of my bargirl girlfriends (I was about to name the bar but maybe I shouldn't) told me that you can 'close down' the bar for 200 k pesos, and it's been done before. They lock the doors and all the girls get naked and drinks flow and it certainly sounded like sexual activities go down, although I didn't specifically confirm those details. Now obviously that sounds like a lot, but think about what that would cost you to do in Vegas.Back when barfines were a more reasonable 1. 2-2. 5 k, you used to be able to do this for 30-40 k pesos. This was still circa 2017.
ILuvBrownGirls
01-02-25, 02:15
P,s,for those of us that were around before the new human traffic laws were introduced then full nudity, blow jobs, sex in the bar, lock downs where orgies took place were the norm, those that were around way back were the lucky ones, never to be repeated unfortunately.
Thanks and happy new year peeps.I got a quick BJ on Fields Ave in January 2024 during day shift at a prominent bar. It certainly still happens although I agree that AC has become much milder since my first trip in 2010.
Chris Long
01-02-25, 12:53
Arrived November 22nd will leave January 7th.
These are just my opinions, my taste and my experiences but 70 to 80% of the women here are 4's 5's 6's in looks the few 7's and 8's I see are only with Koreans. I have never seen a 7 or 8 with a non-Korean only with Koreans. I've never seen a 9 or 10 in Angeles. Koreans are definitely the preferred customer for the girls. I would say 60 to 70% of the bars are owned by Koreans but even in the non-Korean owned bars the girls still prefer the Korean customers. When a bar girl tells you she goes with white guys what that means is, if no Korean wants her and she really needs the money she will consider going with a white guy. I have had turn downs in the bars including the non-Korean owned bars. Can I get a girl from a bar in Angeles City YES 100% I can get a girl out of EVERY bar in Angeles City even All of the Korean owned bars. Can I get the girl I want, no. The best-looking girls ONLY go with Korean guys even in the none-Korean owned bars the best-looking girls will still only go with the Korean guys, Doll House, Atlantis, you can forget those bars, those girls are Korean only girls. I can get any 4, 5, even 6's from any bar I want the 7's and 8's they only go with Koreans. Don't know how it is for my Black Brothern, but I would imagine it is even harder for them, met one Black guy staying in my hotel who was mad and pissed about how hard it was for him to get a girl he even caused a big scene at Avalon because he could not get a girl to go with him. He finally gave up and went to Thailand. I was ripped off at a Korean bar, bar nana. The best-looking girl in the bar agreed to go with me. Back in the room she took forever to shower then came out and said I was too big (I'm average at best) and said she couldn't do it. I told her I already paid the bar fine, and she said we could go back, and mama would give me my money back. Back at the bar they said I was with the girl too long, and they would not give me my money back. I demanded to speak with the Korean owner who could barely speak English or pretended to barely speak English and told me he would not give me my money back. If I was Korean, he would have surely given me my money back as I have heard many girls tell me how Koreans got mad and went back to the bar and were given a full refund but because I was none-Korean he refused to refund my money.
Prices are outfuckingrageous anywhere from $100 you. S when the drinks and the tip is added in to $200+ (Madona Gold Dress Girls) to bar fine. The girls rare to never will do long time. Even when they tell you they will do long time they still leave early. Once you bar fine them setting up meeting them outside of the bar is possible for anywhere from 2000 to 3000. The girls lie incessantly every word out of their mouth is a lie and they are sleeping with as many as 10 other men outside of the bar besides you. They see you as nothing more than a walking ATM and would think nothing of taking the last dollar out and leave you with nothing. Gone are the days of GFE. The place is a shit hole, the food sucks when compared to Thailand or Medellin and everyone has their hand out.
Christmas and New Years the place was a ghost town with most if not all the bars being closed.
Only made it to the Perimeter Road bars three different times but went to about all of them. In my opinion the talent in All of them was sub five 4's and below, prices I was quoted were 3500.
BJ bars are few in numbers now most of them are gone, passed by each of them a couple times and All of the women I have seen in them were sub five 4's and below even seen some women who I met there 10 years ago still in the short time bar and looking much much much worse.
Freelancers are almost nonexistent never seen anyone I would call a freelancer on the McDonalds end of walking street where they used to hang out. The only freelancers that I seen hang out in front of Phillies 90% of them are lady boys and the few women that are there are sub five, but you can still find an occasional rare diamond in the ruff there. Made it to the back streets near One Euphoria a couple times and the women were few in number and all sub five 4's and below in looks, was quoted 1500 for short time which is the best price you're going to get in Angeles City.
Only went into the Discos Maga Dance, Hammer on three occasions. I'm not a late-night person so I find it hard to stay up that late, staid anywhere from ten to thirty minutes each time circulated around the place anywhere from midnight to as late as 1:30 am. My friends who go there tell me it really doesn't get started until 3: am which is too late for me. I never picked up anyone from there and felt invisible every time I went in, never had any success. The women all seemed to hang out in groups and there was usually a guy or two attached to the group. None ever looked or noticed me or made any indication that they were looking for customers. The best-looking women in the discos were Always with Korean guys.
The only real benefit to Angeles City is that 100% of the women will fuck Bare Back never had any women turn me down for going Bare Back. I have a prescription for Truvada, and you can buy Doxycycline over the counter without a prescription from Big Thumb drug store across the street from McDonalds on Mccarther. I take Truvada and use Doxy Prep, 200 Milligrams of Doxycycline as preventative every morning.
In conclusion Angeles City is NOT what it used to be. The quality of women is down, prices are outfuckingrageous if you are none-Korean you are left picking up the leftovers that they don't want. GFE and longtime are a thing of the past. Freelancers and short time bars are few in number and subpar in looks. The discos are nothing like High Society was ten years ago. It's a shit hole with poor food and everyone has their hand out. Its only redeeming value is that it is still 100% Bare Back Friendly.
Old And Ugly
01-02-25, 14:55
Never been in AC on NYE, it's a first, and last. I imagined something similar or better than the Halloween, or the chinese new year, but man, what a disappointment, the place was deserted, and after midnight, was a ghost town.
I was planning to go to Aqua's NYE Party, but an unfortunate series of minor events kept me away from it.
Me and the girls got checked in, in the Royal Amsterdam, which was kind of vacant looking, we got out, ate something, and went back for a quick shower.
Of course running butt naked back and forward in front of my erected dick, transformed in no time into some sort of literal cluster fuck, than into a quick nap, from which I woke up at eleven, just in time to almost miss the midnight celebration.
I didn't have no white shirt, but I was planning to buy one on the way there, hoping that the pants color doesn't matter. The girls had the white stuff, and they started to get dressed, I ran up the street, checking the few stalls that were still open, and of course that they only had female clothing, stopped at Kanca, next to Insomnia where I saw a guy, that I know, and he put me to rest, by telling me to forget about Aqua, because it's overcrowded, and mostly with young guys, not suitable for old farts, and most important, that there will be a very long wait to get out of there, because of the stupid pay as you exit system. So I gave up that idea, and I bought a bottle of champagne and some plastic made tall glasses from the liquor store, and just made it back 5 min before midnight into the room, where by the look on the girls faces I realized that I fucked up. Our room was facing the street, they were already watching the guys lighting up fireworks on the street, and some more up in the sky from the rooftop bars probably. I popped the cork, we toasted, then I explained to them that it was their fault because they wanted to sleep just a bit, and we missed it (hahaha) but then I told them that there was no chance to get in Aqua anyway, and the rest of the story. We went out, got chassed by some fireworks launched horizontaly on the street, then got to this place on McArthur close to mercury drugs, a carinderia that was open, where they had lechon baboy, and that made the girls happy again. We walked up and down the walking street, that already became totally deserted, like I never seen it before, then went to bed collectively fully disappointed.
No glamorous party for the girls, no mini orgy for me, then on the first when we woke up, bummer: GF got her period, and my body after I took a hot shower was covered with red dots, allergic response to something, I don't know what, and I never had or seen something like it before. I called my doctor in the Us (good friend), was still before midnight there, I started with the happy new year stuff, and explained the rest of the story and she told me to take prednison, and any other antiallergy medicine like alegra or zyrtek, which I did, now is the second day but it looks the same, good is not itchy.
Anyway back to the "state of the union" : on the first of January in the afternoon, some of the bars started to open, but no girls inside, later whole crowds of BG. S walking together up the street, and going someplace on Santos Rd, most likely mass BF by koreans.
Popped my head in the few bars that were open, they were either totally empty, or some of them packed with foreigners, dancing around with their companions, that were dressed in street clothes, therefore making me think they entered the place together, not recent BFs. Also lots of koreans were stroling on the street, but most of them alone.
The new Skin bar owned by the guy that has the Rock 69 bar, looked closed, I didn't bother to enter and go up.
Went to the mall, I think they were giving it away for free, because the place was packed, I bought something nice for the girls from Forever 21 (1-2 K) to cheer them up, then got back to the hotel, where I did a combo fuck with A and GF watching then blowing me, she wasn't feeling great, and understand it. I wasn't feeling well also, but mostly mentally, because of the freckles looking rash on my body, good that's not on the face also (you can't see it in semi obscurity).
In the evening it looked like there was some minuscule activity in the western bars, but I didn't checked out, not feeling too well, and loosing my "appetite" after I just poked my head in the angel witch, where were some girls dancing in pink swimsuits, but I never seen such fat pigs, not even in the US at the downtown buffet lines in Vegas.
We spent the rest of the evening sampling few of the Michelin Starr restaurants around Fields ave then spent the night "alone".
At noon after an unfinished double BJ due to time constraints, we took the Genesis bus to Manila, because that was the only option to fly out, that didn't cost an arm and a leg.
I ate the best meal I had in the past 3 years in the airport, from all places: it was a bacon cheeseburger at Denny's, man I forgot the taste of real american hamburgers, was delicious, forget all the fresh tuna, and similar healthy things, this was heaven.
I want to mention before I forget: Genesis bus goes to all the terminals when coming from AC, but leaves only from T3, I always thought that's only an AC-T3-AC deal.
I don't know if the ghost town appearance in AC is due to poor understanding of business practices, stupidity or something else, I understand that Christmas and NYE is a family thing in the PH, but when you're in the bar and restaurant business, a different set of rules apply, the holydays is the busiest time of the year, when you make the most money.
You're not there to make the girls happy, you're sole purpose is to make money, so time off should be at a different time, and staggered, not all at once.
Also even if we wouldn't like it as customers, but during such BG shortages, you don't mass BF them, you temporary raise the prices, because the way I saw it, there will be plenty of takers.
Happy New Year Everybody!
Chris Long
01-02-25, 19:45
Never been in AC on NYE, it's a first, and last. I imagined something similar or better than the Halloween, or the chinese new year, but man, what a disappointment, the place was deserted, and after midnight, was a ghost town.
I was planning to go to Aqua's NYE Party, but an unfortunate series of minor events kept me away from it.
Me and the girls got checked in, in the Royal Amsterdam, which was kind of vacant looking, we got out, ate something, and went back for a quick shower.
Of course running butt naked back and forward in front of my erected dick, transformed in no time into some sort of literal cluster fuck, than into a quick nap, from which I woke up at eleven, just in time to almost miss the midnight celebration.Sounds like the rash you have is Syphilis stage two. I contracted Syphilis in Manila in 2019 tested twice in Angeles City was told two times I was none reactive got tested and treated when I returned to the states benzathine Penicillin. I got mine treated when it was still in stage one. Sounds like yours has already progressed to stage two if you have the rash. Better get it treated before it progresses to stage three, and it starts eating the cartilage in your nose and affecting your brain.
Never been in AC on NYE, it's a first, and last. I imagined something similar or better than the Halloween, or the chinese new year, but man, what a disappointment, the place was deserted, and after midnight, was a ghost town.
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I don't know if the ghost town appearance in AC is due to poor understanding of business practices, stupidity or something else, I understand that Christmas and NYE is a family thing in the PH, but when you're in the bar and restaurant business, a different set of rules apply, the holydays is the busiest time of the year, when you make the most money.
You're not there to make the girls happy, you're sole purpose is to make money, so time off should be at a different time, and staggered, not all at once.
Also even if we wouldn't like it as customers, but during such BG shortages, you don't mass BF them, you temporary raise the prices, because the way I saw it, there will be plenty of takers.
Happy New Year Everybody!Back when AC was less of a shithole, less Korean oriented and had an actual high season, the week between Christmas and NY was a nice compromise to let girls have a nice and well earned time off with family in the province (remember getting to the far flung provinces is often a multi day journey). They'the have been working heavy shifts in the weeks preceding Christmas and would likely come back to a horde of horny punters in the first and second weeks of the new year. That and not every girl would make the plan to go home anyway.
Fast forward 1-2 decades and even at the busiest of times AC today in high season has a fraction of the number of available girls it would've had in 2015 low season. That makes the absences over Christmas / New Year even more pronounced as the bars have not adapted one bit (save for maybe higher barfines and drinks prices).
Sounds like the rash you have is Syphilis stage two. I contracted Syphilis in Manila in 2019 tested twice in Angeles City was told two times I was none reactive got tested and treated when I returned to the states benzathine Penicillin. I got mine treated when it was still in stage one. Sounds like yours has already progressed to stage two if you have the rash. Better get it treated before it progresses to stage three, and it starts eating the cartilage in your nose and affecting your brain.Watch out for the new strain of Russian STD called Rotchcockoff! I may have misspelled it. It does not eat the cartilage in your nose but in your cock!
FuriousGeorge
01-03-25, 05:30
There is not much reason to go to AC during New Year's unless you're there to party with the locals at Mega or Aqua. The street is mostly dark by 8 and all the way dark by 11. I thought this was clear. The Aqua party was great. This video gives you an idea. If that doesn't appeal to you then I'the stay away. I had a prime table front and center with my date and some friends.
https://youtu.be/8BY2WrrK2IA?si=wQeHymI6UZ_jAZx6
As for no hot girls going with gringos, I have no clue what you're talking about. I’m as white as can be, I’ve barfined many times, and have never been turned down, not once. I had one of the Score Birds competition bikini girls, an absolute 9 ex model door girl from another western bar (unpaid, we met at Mega later and I gave her some cash in the morning). None of my barfines have been under 7's (most solid 8's, one 9) and only one felt transactional. The others made so much noise they should have been paying me. I don't know if you're putting off creep vibes or what but you have to romance them a bit to get the right experience. You also have to vibe check by buying them a drink and seeing their personality.
Angel Witch girls are definitely a mess, this is true. And most of the perimeter bar girls aren't much to look at with a few rare exceptions. That being said I did get a double HJ right in the open at a perimeter bar and then moved into the back room for a talented BJ. She wasn't very hot but had skills and that met my daytime needs.
I have not found Philipinas to be liars nor cheats. I also don't treat them or say things to them that would compel them to feel the need to lie to me. My wallet has been out in the open many times without incident. Some girls at Mega bought a bucket of Red Horse and shared it with me and when I left I tried to give them 500 and they kept putting it back in my pocket. Jealous, that's a different story, this they can definitely be.
The bars were all back open last night. Had a very sexy skinny girl from Shooters. Present yourself well. Treat the girls well. You'll have a good time.
Chris Long
01-03-25, 05:48
There is not much reason to go to AC during New Year's unless you're there to party with the locals at Mega or Aqua. The street is mostly dark by 8 and all the way dark by 11. I thought this was clear. The Aqua party was great. This video gives you an idea. If that doesn't appeal to you then I'the stay away. I had a prime table front and center with my date and some friends.
https://youtu.be/8BY2WrrK2IA?si=wQeHymI6UZ_jAZx6
As for no hot girls going with gringos, I have no clue what you're talking about. I had one of the Score Birds competition bikini girls, an absolute 9 ex model door girl from another western bar (unpaid, we met at Mega later and I gave her some cash in the morning). None of my barfines have been under 7's (most solid 8's, one 9) and only one felt transactional. The others made so much noise they should have been paying me. I don't know if you're putting off creep vibes or what but you have to romance them a bit to get the right experience. You also have to vibe check by buying them a drink and seeing their personality.
Angel Witch girls are definitely a mess, this is true. And most of the perimeter bar girls aren't much to look at with a few rare exceptions. That being said I did get a double HJ right in the open at a perimeter bar and then moved into the back room for a talented BJ. She wasn't very hot but had skills and that met my daytime needs.
I have not found Philipinas to be liars nor cheats. I also don't treat them or say things to them that would compel them to feel the need to lie to me. My wallet has been out in the open many times without incident. Some girls at Mega bought a bucket of Red Horse and shared it with me and when I left I tried to give them 500 and they kept putting it back in my pocket. Jealous, that's a different story, this they can definitely be.
The bars were all back open last night. Had a very sexy skinny girl from Shooters. Present yourself well. Treat the girls well. You'll have a good time.A 9 at the Scorebirds bikini contest Hahahahahahahahahahaha your funny I've never seen a 9 in Angeles City and certainly Not at the Scorebirds bikini contest. I guess this is where one man's 9 is another man's 4.
Yes, the bars were open last night but the quantity and quality were poor in all the bars, most girls have not returned back from the provinces yet.
Old And Ugly
01-03-25, 05:52
Sounds like the rash you have is Syphilis stage two. I contracted Syphilis in Manila in 2019 tested twice in Angeles City was told two times I was none reactive got tested and treated when I returned to the states benzathine Penicillin. I got mine treated when it was still in stage one. Sounds like yours has already progressed to stage two if you have the rash. Better get it treated before it progresses to stage three, and it starts eating the cartilage in your nose and affecting your brain.My brain was affected long time ago, I don't think is fixable, as for STDs, I do tests about twice a year, last time about 3 months ago in Germany. The Prednisone seems to do the trick, I stopped the zyrtek, the spotting on the skin it's less obvious now, my US doctor told me to do 1 week of treatment.
It may be the bed sheets, or something I ate or drink.
As for the blood test results here in PH, I think they are ok, because the human factor doesn't affect it, nowadays is done by machines, and standard reactives, therefore the similar standard looking results, mostly in English, regardless of the country.
They take blood, put it in the machine, and the machine spits out the results, they erase the ones you didn't pay for, and print out the paid ones.
The ones that know how to do it by hand, are paid big bucks and work in Wuhan.
I guess I'll be OK, if not we'll see in 10 years at the stage 3, if I'll make it that long.
Old And Ugly
01-03-25, 07:29
There is not much reason to go to AC during New Year's unless you're there to party with the locals at Mega or Aqua. The street is mostly dark by 8 and all the way dark by 11. I thought this was clear. The Aqua party was great. This video gives you an idea. If that doesn't appeal to you then I'the stay away. I had a prime table front and center with my date and some friends.
https://youtu.be/8BY2WrrK2IA?si=wQeHymI6UZ_jAZx6
As for no hot girls going with gringos, I have no clue what you're talking about. Im as white as can be, Ive barfined many times, and have never been turned down, not once. I had one of the Score Birds competition bikini girls, an absolute 9 ex model door girl from another western bar (unpaid, we met at Mega later and I gave her some cash in the morning). None of my barfines have been under 7's (most solid 8's, one 9) and only one felt transactional. The others made so much noise they should have been paying me. I don't know if you're putting off creep vibes or what but you have to romance them a bit to get the right experience. You also have to vibe check by buying them a drink and seeing their personality.
Angel Witch girls are definitely a mess, this is true. And most of the perimeter bar girls aren't much to look at with a few rare exceptions. That being said I did get a double HJ right in the open at a perimeter bar and then moved into the back room for a talented BJ. She wasn't very hot but had skills and that met my daytime needs.
I have not found Philipinas to be liars nor cheats. I also don't treat them or say things to them that would compel them to feel the need to lie to me. My wallet has been out in the open many times without incident. Some girls at Mega bought a bucket of Red Horse and shared it with me and when I left I tried to give them 500 and they kept putting it back in my pocket. Jealous, that's a different story, this they can definitely be.
The bars were all back open last night. Had a very sexy skinny girl from Shooters. Present yourself well. Treat the girls well. You'll have a good time.Nice video, like I imagined, but it's not my style, too many people, I only feel sorry for my girls, I promised them something like this, but I didn't deliver, I guess I screwed up.
Looks like it used to be at Atlantis on a regular night before the Korean involvement.
For me AC still the best, even if this past NYE was not what I expected, my fault entirely.
And yes, me too, I only get 8,9,10's when I barfine, there still plenty of them around. You just need patience, good manners, and money. If I really want a particular girl, I don't think that the Korean dough is better or more plentiful than my USD, remember the Koreans only put up a show, is all a faade, they are all poor schmuks that can't afford to go out on a regular date in Korea, and come here to show off. I guess that's where all the evening gown bullshit originated from, The Korean mafia that took over the bars just gives them what they can't get at home. We want young pussy, and can't get it in the west, they want dates with "glamorous" looking women. The ones with money stay in Korea where they can gen plenty of action, any kind, and any way they want it.
You can say the same about us but, in our case the public opinion gets in the way also, if you're not a celebrity, and you're old is tabu to have a young beauty at your arm, I know I been there, my second wife was almost 30 years younger than me, we turned heads everywhere we went in US or Europe.
Happy New Year! And Plenty of Beautifull Young Girls in the New Year!
Old And Ugly
01-03-25, 07:49
This is the AC thread, but is the only one that's active, so I'll ask here, maybe somebody knows: from Davao, I'm going to take a side trip by bus to General Santos tomorrow, due to boredom, where is the best area to stay, that has some girlie action?
There are a bunch of guys who bullshit blog along here nonsense 24/7, like telling us the highlight of their stay was an American hamburger. Then some guy tells them they have all the symptoms of syphilis and they are back talking crap about hamburgers and their hired holes.
If you have syphilis, get it treated now. Don't phone up some friend in the US who puts up with your bullshit.
I had a good NYE, with a lady less than half my age. We watched, panoramically, the fireworks, from my pad and took a restful night, and never thought about going to nearby WS to hear syphilitic guys drone on about their hamburgers.
If morons take syphilis so casually, you can keep WS and your hired holes.
Old And Ugly
01-03-25, 11:41
There are a bunch of guys who bullshit blog along here nonsense 24/7, like telling us the highlight of their stay was an American hamburger. Then some guy tells them they have all the symptoms of syphilis and they are back talking crap about hamburgers and their hired holes.
If you have syphilis, get it treated now. Don't phone up some friend in the US who puts up with your bullshit.
I had a good NYE, with a lady less than half my age. We watched, panoramically, the fireworks, from my pad and took a restful night, and never thought about going to nearby WS to hear syphilitic guys drone on about their hamburgers.
If morons take syphilis so casually, you can keep WS and your hired holes.Where did you got the conclusion that I have syphilis? It seems that your comprehension skills are a bit fogged up if that's the conclusion you got after reading the posts, and don't see if people are joking or not. If in real life you're just half as arrogant as you are here, and insult people out of the blue, I can't even imagine all the good things coming your way.
If you don't like the blog, don't read it, or write something more interesting, to keep us entertained. I wish I had more interesting things to report from my AC trip, but unfortunately I don't.
This is the AC thread, but is the only one that's active, so I'll ask here, maybe somebody knows: from Davao, I'm going to take a side trip by bus to General Santos tomorrow, due to boredom, where is the best area to stay, that has some girlie action?Following even though it's the wrong thread. I've found the 'Other Areas' forum much more active than the direct forums for the provincial cities.
I've never been there so I'm no authority. However, I've booked near SM and KCC malls in the center of town as I understand that it's near everything.
I'm not into bars nor street walkers. Online, PinaLove and Facebook are very active though your taste and milage may vary.
Keep us posted how you go.
Enjoy. G.
Present yourself well. Treat the girls well. You'll have a good time.Well said George. I know I've mentioned it before on this forum, but the amount of times girls have complimented me on basic personal hygiene was surprising.
It appears the common feedback I've had back from them is that foreigners stink. Now, a lot of these girls deal with cold running water to bathe in and don't have the luxury of a warm shower until you get them in your room, but they always smell sweet up top and down below.
If you're going to go out and enjoy yourself in the heat through the day and partake in having a few drinks, it helps to go back to your room and freshen up for the evening stint. A little deodorant can also help your chances. Just reporting on the feedback I've received from many girls first hand _ Phil.
ThreeInches
01-03-25, 15:32
It appears the common feedback I've had back from them is that foreigners stink. I just went to a bar on the perimeter this particular place has a few girls maybe 5's-6's but a new girl emerged and I usually let the girls take a doggy position and take a little taste but this girls backside smelled like the Abacan river. I didn't stick my face in it but I did put my dick in it however when they don't take a shower or don't have access to a shower before the deed it can be rough.
Same goes for mongers all they need to do is splash a little water on it before and it is as clean as a whistle.
In conclusion Angeles City is NOT what it used to be. The quality of women is down, prices are outfuckingrageous if you are none-Korean you are left picking up the leftovers that they don't want. GFE and longtime are a thing of the past. Freelancers and short time bars are few in number and subpar in looks. The discos are nothing like High Society was ten years ago. It's a shit hole with poor food and everyone has their hand out. Its only redeeming value is that it is still 100% Bare Back Friendly.Mate, I understand your grievances with AC. I've been there twice, only because business took me close by and I've always found the place to be shithole.
Hence my options to be close to the water in Sabang or discovering other locations in The Phils.
Having said that, I respect that many guys still love visiting AC and do so regularly. Whatever works for you I suppose.
You'll see many reports in the 'other areas' forum from guys who have offered alternatives to AC and the usual areas.
I've done three or four laps down WS in AC and haven't had anyone approach me apart from Bakla. In Makati, you get approached by some very ordinary women and some pretty hot things as soon as you leave your hotel.
Yes, it can't be denied that the Koreans have taken over multiple areas.
But there is still hope and The Phils never fails to disappoint on every visit no matter where I go.
You've just got to think outside the box and enjoy the ride.
There's always pussy available anywhere in The Phils I've been to.
And most of the time it's been at a fraction of the expense of paying a fortune for LD's and BF's as you would in AC.
I understand for some guys and the two week warriors, the AC experience is an easy fix, but there's a lot more opportunities out there.
And from time to time, you'll find that diamond where you'd least expect it _ Phil.
ThreeInches
01-03-25, 16:12
In Makati, you get approached by some very ordinary womennStatements like that just means you haven't spent enough time in AC.
The real meat of AC is what AceBachelorCool lives off, off the market friends of bargirls that either do this line of work part time or don't ever do it and are looking for a compensated dating situation. The reason why AC is a hotspot for this, there are endless amounts of women who come to AC and some of them only work for a week or never work in a bar but paid for the boarding room with no way to earn an income until you offer to help her out via her friend introducing you to her. New girls at bars can be fun if you are patient and catch them within the first few days. Very old prostitutes always have friends who don't work in the bar because they don't want to go that route but need money. Just have to kiss a few frogs and build a network when you do true in almost any mongering destination you get sweeter juice but AC is specialized in this because paid sex is kind of normalized here whole streets of boarding houses with working girls and friends of working girls that need money live within your job is to find the ones that are ripe and pull them. The non working girls see the working girls will constant inflow of money and get jealous I have been spending most of my time on social media in AC rather than overpaying in the bars with massive success actually. But every now and then its good to find new friends in the bars to add to the rolodex, you can also hook up with these girls when they go to the province if they happen not to be in AC and get introduced to some provincial girls which is also fun. AC is a great lead generating hotspot imo. End result is you get prices that don't include the bar fees and better service over all. I'm not saying date bar girls outside the bar, I am saying date bar girls friends the which is a different arrangement.
FuriousGeorge
01-03-25, 16:27
I did not say I was with a 9 from the score birds party. She was a solid 8. My 9 was a door girl. But there have been some there over the years. Here's an Angeles City 9 from last month. Goddam fellas have some fun once in a while.
A 9 at the Scorebirds bikini contest Hahahahahahahahahahaha your funny I've never seen a 9 in Angeles City and certainly Not at the Scorebirds bikini contest. I guess this is where one man's 9 is another man's 4.
Yes, the bars were open last night but the quantity and quality were poor in all the bars, most girls have not returned back from the provinces yet.
WestCoast1
01-04-25, 01:24
Goddam fellas have some fun once in a while.I hear ya. The things a man wakes up to in Phils.
I did not say I was with a 9 from the score birds party. She was a solid 8. My 9 was a door girl. But there have been some there over the years. Here's an Angeles City 9 from last month. Goddam fellas have some fun once in a while.Sometimes it absolutely amazes me how different peoples ratings are. I would rate her a generous 6 on a good day. A 9 to me would be a model type. She's definitely not a model. No magazine would ever book her. She would never appear on TV. A 10 would be an absolute perfect model. Anyways, glad you were able to find your 9 in angeles. I've had many good times in Angeles, but never with any 9's. I've found some good 7's who were really fun and absolutely worth it though.
This is the AC thread, but is the only one that's active, so I'll ask here, maybe somebody knows: from Davao, I'm going to take a side trip by bus to General Santos tomorrow, due to boredom, where is the best area to stay, that has some girlie action?GenSan is really small. Its hard to stay anywhere non central. I recommend you just stay near the malls. Greenleaf is a good hotel, but pricey for what it is, but location can't be beat. Its right across from SM mall. A decent modern, recently built hotel would be Grand Summit. Girlie street action if I remember correclty would be more focused near plaza heneral santos, but don't quote me on that. That street action is the dreggs. There are some girlie bars along Marhalika Highway that youl'll want to check out. There isn't a huge p4 p scene there. Not sure why you would want to go. If you're young enough and decent looking enough there is civvie action, but then again that's everywhere in the philippines. Have fun.
FuriousGeorge
01-04-25, 03:24
Of course, the 'she's an 6 max' comment that I was expecting. I said specifically an AC 9. This is not a European black tape runway show or a Victoria's Secret special. We are grading on a curve here. But anyone who doesn't find that girl attractive needs to hang it up and get on Grindr.
Sometimes it absolutely amazes me how different peoples ratings are. I would rate her a generous 6 on a good day. A 9 to me would be a model type. She's definitely not a model. No magazine would ever book her. She would never appear on TV. A 10 would be an absolute perfect model. Anyways, glad you were able to find your 9 in angeles. I've had many good times in Angeles, but never with any 9's. I've found some good 7's who were really fun and absolutely worth it though.
WestCoast1
01-04-25, 04:54
A 9 to me would be a model type. She's definitely not a model. No magazine would ever book her. She would never appear on TV.
A 10 would be an absolute perfect model. Can you better define what those are? What is a model-type? Can you post picture (s) you've taken of such girls, from anywhere? Clothed or not, just something where we could see your figure and / or face requirement for a girl to be a 9-10 model? Even if you can find a public-domain picture of a popular model that you like and would consider to be a 9-10.
FuriousGeorge
01-04-25, 05:34
Reminds me of what's going on in the bar Sensation's (yes there is an apostrophe for god knows what reason). There are some cute girls here but directly in view of the stage there is a giant screen showing a worldwide model bikini / tape runway show and you end up just watching that. Does the girls on stage quite a disservice. I did see two girls at Mega last night that could have been on that runway. In a booth surrounded by dudes unfortunately.
Sometimes it absolutely amazes me how different peoples ratings are. I would rate her a generous 6 on a good day. A 9 to me would be a model type. She's definitely not a model. No magazine would ever book her. She would never appear on TV. A 10 would be an absolute perfect model. Anyways, glad you were able to find your 9 in angeles. I've had many good times in Angeles, but never with any 9's. I've found some good 7's who were really fun and absolutely worth it though.
Can you better define what those are? What is a model-type? Can you post picture (s) you've taken of such girls, from anywhere? Clothed or not, just something where we could see your figure and / or face requirement for a girl to be a 9-10 model? Even if you can find a public-domain picture of a popular model that you like and would consider to be a 9-10.Sorry to be That Guy but you won't find a pic of a model who is only a 9. A 9 is someone who is 'only' in the prettiest 10% of the population. That implies that the average room of people would always have several models present.
In terms of actual models and their ratings, there have been 40 Victoria Secret Angels out of a population of 4 billion women so each is a 9. 99999999.
A FHM type model might be literally one in a million so she is a 9. 99999.
A 9 is merely the prettiest girl sitting at a restaurant. Sure she's cute but not enough to be professionally employed because of her looks.
I'd agree than guys can rate girls with wildly different scores and also that looks are nice but do not predetermine performance not attitude.
Enjoy. G.
P.S. My apologies for dragging on yet another ridiculous topic. 😜.
Sorry to be That Guy but you won't find a pic of a model who is only a 9. A 9 is someone who is 'only' in the prettiest 10% of the population. That implies that the average room of people would always have several models present.
In terms of actual models and their ratings, there have been 40 Victoria Secret Angels out of a population of 4 billion women so each is a 9. 99999999.
A FHM type model might be literally one in a million so she is a 9. 99999.
A 9 is merely the prettiest girl sitting at a restaurant. Sure she's cute but not enough to be professionally employed because of her looks.
I'd agree than guys can rate girls with wildly different scores and also that looks are nice but do not predetermine performance not attitude.
Enjoy. G.
P.S. My apologies for dragging on yet another ridiculous topic. 😜.Can we at least agree. She has nice looking teeth.
Expat American
01-04-25, 09:25
Sorry to be That Guy but you won't find a pic of a model who is only a 9. A 9 is someone who is 'only' in the prettiest 10% of the population. That implies that the average room of people would always have several models present.
In terms of actual models and their ratings, there have been 40 Victoria Secret Angels out of a population of 4 billion women so each is a 9. 99999999.
A FHM type model might be literally one in a million so she is a 9. 99999.
A 9 is merely the prettiest girl sitting at a restaurant. Sure she's cute but not enough to be professionally employed because of her looks.
I'd agree than guys can rate girls with wildly different scores and also that looks are nice but do not predetermine performance not attitude.
Enjoy. G.
P.S. My apologies for dragging on yet another ridiculous topic. 😜.Some people may have different ideas of beauty. I find the typical blonde haired fake boobed tits on a stick model in the magazines quite repulsive and would rate her a 5 or less. I prefer the natural GND look with natural pretty skin, features and body. So the whole rating system per se is pretty ridiculous if you ask me. If she floats your boat, then its a 10 for you, who cares what others think?
Mr Enternational
01-04-25, 13:23
Sorry to be That Guy but you won't find a pic of a model who is only a 9. A 9 is someone who is 'only' in the prettiest 10% of the population. That implies that the average room of people would always have several models present.
In terms of actual models and their ratings, there have been 40 Victoria Secret Angels out of a population of 4 billion women so each is a 9. 99999999.
A FHM type model might be literally one in a million so she is a 9. 99999.That is more of a marketing thing than something "real". It is the same as DeBeers saying come buy these spectacular diamonds as if they are really rare. They were advertised to make them worth something. Before that, they were just regular rocks in the ground.
Models are made, not born. Take Marilyn Monroe for instance. She spent a childhood in and out of orphanges and was anybody's Regular Joan working in some corner of a factory before a random photographer pulled up and said I think I can make something of this chick. Nobody was drooling over her before the advertising and forced glamor.
There have only been 40 of those chicks for the perception that something is rare and exclusive. As you said it is a job. There have not been many astronauts either. That is not because a bunch of people can not qualify to be one, but because there are only so many slots for them.
Statements like that just means you haven't spent enough time in AC.
The real meat of AC is what AceBachelorCool lives off, off the market friends of bargirls that either do this line of work part time or don't ever do it and are looking for a compensated dating situation. I'm not saying date bar girls outside the bar, I am saying date bar girls friends the which is a different arrangement.Agree. But admit it takes time.
If you are on a 1 week vacation you must either have already a network from girls you met there before --or you do a lot of footwork on DIA, Pinalove, Badoo. And filter out the scammers and jokers.
In the previous years you could go there and play both: FL's from the road, barfines for all night or FL's from dating boards. Now the FL's on the road are harder to find, barfines are skyrocketing and dating girls let you wait for hours and then not show up or are a bakla.
Sometimes it absolutely amazes me how different peoples ratings are. I would rate her a generous 6 on a good day.......Those words are hollow without you posting a photo of a 9 you have met.
I did not say I was with a 9 from the score birds party. She was a solid 8. My 9 was a door girl. But there have been some there over the years. Here's an Angeles City 9 from last month. Goddam fellas have some fun once in a while.Looks like she has an overbite and would knaw on your dick. Also her tits are very small. I would say 6.
That is more of a marketing thing than something "real".I'm calling BS. Sure the hype makes a difference. But I don't know many girls who are 5'11" with proportional tits, hips etc and the facial structure to be so photogenic. Add in the 'it' factor and charisma that makes heads turn when ever she walks into a room.
I don't put any girls on a pedestal but those like Alessandria Ambrosio aren't average girls with a good makeup artist and a hype machine.
The same could be said for other extreme occupations. It's ridiculous to suggest that after a few night classes I could become an astronaut. I severely doubt I would pass the intelligence, physical and stress tests even on my best day. I wouldn't even want a job with so many down sides, even if I could, anyway.
Cheers. G.
Chris Long
01-05-25, 07:19
I did not say I was with a 9 from the score birds party. She was a solid 8. My 9 was a door girl. But there have been some there over the years. Here's an Angeles City 9 from last month. Goddam fellas have some fun once in a while.I would rate the girl in the picture a five or a six. What door girl is a 9? I've been here since November 22nd and have been on walking street every day / night and I've never seen one door girl I would rate a 9. The highest I would rate any girl I I've seen in Angeles would be a generous 8 and they were very few and Always Only with Koreans. There are some 7's around and some 6's. Lots of 4's and 5's but NO 9's or 10's in Angeles City. Though a lot of 5's 6's 7's have attitudes and think they are a 9 or a 10.
Chris Long
01-05-25, 19:26
At the very least she's an 8 in my book. Not sure she really qualifies as an Angeles City Girl as I met her at the mall, 18 Claimed it was her first day in Angeles claimed I was her first foreigner.
Mr Enternational
01-05-25, 20:18
I'm calling BS. Sure the hype makes a difference. But I don't know many girls who are 5'11" with proportional tits, hips etc and the facial structure to be so photogenic. Add in the 'it' factor and charisma that makes heads turn when ever she walks into a room.There are also things to be factored in such as would a person even like doing that job. Just because they may be a physical match for something is only part of the equation. Everything is not for everybody. That is just like saying all guys 6'7" and taller must be playing basketball. Not every guy that height has an affinity to basketball, the same that every woman matching those criteria are not necessarily a fit for being a model. Hence there are a myriad of women floating about matching those figures in the regular world who are not in that profession. Not every stunning woman wants to sit in front of cameras and walk down runways all day and night. But you do not pay attention to those until someone dolls them up and puts a spotlight on them.
FuriousGeorge
01-06-25, 13:42
The fact that I said Angeles City 9 means that BY DEFINITION there are 10's, because the qualifier indicates that we are grading girls relative to each other in the city. These aren't exactly door girls. They are girls that work at the bar but they don't have to dance or hustle or dress like the other girls. Many bars but not all have them. They are a step above the other girls and often hang out outside to attract customers or cater to them inside if there are whales. They also sometimes seem to play by their own rules since one asked me once if I wanted to leave with her and I said ok and we just walked out. Sensations has one. You find the rest.
I would rate the girl in the picture a five or a six. What door girl is a 9? I've been here since November 22nd and have been on walking street every day / night and I've never seen one door girl I would rate a 9. The highest I would rate any girl I I've seen in Angeles would be a generous 8 and they were very few and Always Only with Koreans. There are some 7's around and some 6's. Lots of 4's and 5's but NO 9's or 10's in Angeles City. Though a lot of 5's 6's 7's have attitudes and think they are a 9 or a 10.
FuriousGeorge
01-06-25, 14:18
A lot of you fellas have such exquisite sophisticated and discriminating tastes, bravo. In fact I'm going to suggest that you never come to AC, and instead quickly get yourself to Milan during fashion week and see if you can have sex with any of the models for $86.41.
At the very least she's an 8 in my book. Not sure she really qualifies as an Angeles City Girl as I met her at the mall, 18 Claimed it was her first day in Angeles claimed I was her first foreigner.Great that you got her before the Koreans.
A lot of you fellas have such exquisite sophisticated and discriminating tastes, bravo. In fact I'm going to suggest that you never come to AC, and instead quickly get yourself to Milan during fashion week and see if you can have sex with any of the models for $86.41.George, I'm finding myself agreeing with you.
I'm not one for rating them on a 1-10 scale, but if I get a 6 or 7 and she has a great personality, a decent body and she fucks like there's no tomorrow, I'm hanging on to her, as opposed to a '9' who will grab your cash and piss off as soon as you've fired your first shot.
Just my experience _ Phil.
Mr Enternational
01-06-25, 17:42
George, I'm finding myself agreeing with you.
I'm not one for rating them on a 1-10 scale, but if I get a 6 or 7 and she has a great personality, a decent body and she fucks like there's no tomorrow, I'm hanging on to her, as opposed to a '9' who will grab your cash and piss off as soon as you've fired your first shot..That is like saying I would rather have a Volkswagen that runs than a Ferrari with no engine that only sits in the garage. What if the 9 has a great personality, a decent body, and fucks like there is no tomorrow?
The fact that I said Angeles City 9 means that BY DEFINITION there are 10's, because the qualifier indicates that we are grading girls relative to each other in the city. These aren't exactly door girls. They are girls that work at the bar but they don't have to dance or hustle or dress like the other girls. Many bars but not all have them. They are a step above the other girls and often hang out outside to attract customers or cater to them inside if there are whales. They also sometimes seem to play by their own rules since one asked me once if I wanted to leave with her and I said ok and we just walked out. Sensations has one. You find the rest.I missed that you qualified her by being an Angeles City 9. Apologies. Seems like an appropriate rating with that qualification. Just to make things clear, I'm not saying that people should only be going with 9's or 10's. That's absurd. And you're not going to get them for 88 bucks like a previous poster mentioned. There is plenty of fun to be had with 5's and 6's. That's usually where I play to be honest. When I look back at some of my photos from the past, I realize that I've slept with some damn ugly girls, but they were fun at the time.
A lot of you fellas have such exquisite sophisticated and discriminating tastes, bravo. In fact I'm going to suggest that you never come to AC, and instead quickly get yourself to Milan during fashion week and see if you can have sex with any of the models for $86.41.I am getting my AC 8-9's for $61- $87. What pictures do not show is how firm some of these bodies are and how they purr in bed. Real pussy cats.
I missed that you qualified her by being an Angeles City 9. Apologies. Seems like an appropriate rating with that qualification. Just to make things clear, I'm not saying that people should only be going with 9's or 10's. That's absurd. And you're not going to get them for 88 bucks like a previous poster mentioned. There is plenty of fun to be had with 5's and 6's. That's usually where I play to be honest. When I look back at some of my photos from the past, I realize that I've slept with some damn ugly girls, but they were fun at the time.There isn't a one "size" that fits all. I have had 6's and 7's that rocked my world. The only point is does some AC girls rock you or not? If not don't come. I say rock on in AC or move on.
I met her at the mall, 18 Claimed it was her first day in Angeles claimed I was her first foreigner.3 greatest lies:
You Handsome!
I am 18.
First day in Angeles and you are my first foreigner!
LOL.
At the very least she's an 8 in my book. Not sure she really qualifies as an Angeles City Girl as I met her at the mall, 18 Claimed it was her first day in Angeles claimed I was her first foreigner.Great score. An 8 plus definitely. Someone unattainable in the western world at all.
Some people may have different ideas of beauty. I find the typical blonde haired fake boobed tits on a stick model in the magazines quite repulsive and would rate her a 5 or less. I prefer the natural GND look with natural pretty skin, features and body. So the whole rating system per se is pretty ridiculous if you ask me. If she floats your boat, then its a 10 for you, who cares what others think?Now, I like the blonde with big fake boobs on a skinny frame with some tats, heavy makeup slutty look. Long nails, big red lips and blue contacts on. Shit a 9 to me.
Locamotive
01-07-25, 02:37
I did not say I was with a 9 from the score birds party. She was a solid 8. My 9 was a door girl. But there have been some there over the years. Here's an Angeles City 9 from last month. Goddam fellas have some fun once in a while.She is definitely a strong 7 or a 8,that ass alone gets her in the 8's catagory, but I'm a assman. True everyone judges differently and if she is not a Victoria Secret's supermodel to some she cannot be a 8 or higher. That girl is just fine, but beauty I guess is in the eye of the beholder.
WestCoast1
01-07-25, 15:07
At the very least she's an 8 in my book. Not sure she really qualifies as an Angeles City Girl as I met her at the mall, 18 Claimed it was her first day in Angeles claimed I was her first foreigner.Agree with the other gents. A young skinny with a rack and nice face is about an 8. High-five CL.
I am getting my AC 8-9's for $61- $87.
In fact I'm going to suggest that you never come to AC, and instead quickly get yourself to Milan during fashion week and see if you can have sex with any of the models for $86.41.
Great score. An 8 plus definitely. Someone unattainable in the western world at all.Respectfully disagree DG. Attainable, but at considerable cost. Can be had in the US big cities, but in the $500-$1500 per hour range. Covered, 1-pop (or 1 hour, whichever comes first), and you pay first. Will offer a discount for additional hours, up to about 12 hours for 4-6 x the cost of the first hour. Some rich Texan or Wall Street guy will keep her on speed dial and schedule her for Mondays and Thursdays for unrushed 3-hour afternoon 2-pop sessions for, say, $2500 each session. Not bad work if you can get it. OTOH if you live in Phils, it might only set you back $75.
George, I'm finding myself agreeing with you.
I'm not one for rating them on a 1-10 scale, but if I get a 6 or 7 and she has a great personality, a decent body and she fucks like there's no tomorrow, I'm hanging on to her, as opposed to a '9' who will grab your cash and piss off as soon as you've fired your first shot.
Just my experience _ Phil.
That is like saying I would rather have a Volkswagen that runs than a Ferrari with no engine that only sits in the garage. What if the 9 has a great personality, a decent body, and fucks like there is no tomorrow?Well that's obvious. You fuck the Ferrari instead _ Phil.
There isn't a one "size" that fits all. I have had 6's and 7's that rocked my world. The only point is does some AC girls rock you or not? If not don't come. I say rock on in AC or move on.Haven't been back in a long time admitedly, and probably won't go back. Enjoy yourselves! Thats what life is all about. I'd rather stay in nicer places than angeles city and pay a bit more for my pussy. To each his own.
WestCoast1
01-08-25, 01:03
Club Atlantis used to be so busy, that you couldn't even enter, forget about finding a seat. Here are some pics from the old times when they were doing blowjob contests on stage, and the place was packed, and yes cameras were allowed. I cannot understand how some idiot that put lots of money into it to buy it can ruin it like it is now, unless it's all used as a front for some big money laundering scheme.
Cameras were not very performant back then, therefore the bad quality of pics.Atlantis was the bomb for large numbers of honies. Pics attached. At times 100 or more girls were on-shift. What an amazing time. Few additional throwback AC skinny / cutie pics.
Old And Ugly
01-09-25, 09:38
Atlantis was the bomb for large numbers of honies. Pics attached. At times 100 or more girls were on-shift. What an amazing time. Few additional throwback AC skinny / cutie pics.Back then they had the few so called "models" or "spotlights" that you can BF LT for the outrageous amount of 3 K.
WestCoast1
01-09-25, 15:47
Back then they had the few so called "models" or "spotlights" that you can BF LT for the outrageous amount of 3 K.At some point (early 2010's) they had a 2- or 3-tier price system. 2000 for waitresses or doorgirls, 2500 for most of the dancers, and 3000 for the better looking dancers -- 'models' or such. All tiers were LT and 2-pops. At the time, it was I think the highest barfines in the entire AC system. I think Body Shop and a few others on the lower end were around p1500 for any girl.
Sir Lancelot
01-09-25, 22:20
At the very least she's an 8 in my book. Not sure she really qualifies as an Angeles City Girl as I met her at the mall, 18 Claimed it was her first day in Angeles claimed I was her first foreigner.Nice girl. I had to look at 4 or 5 of your pics to confirm it wasn't a black tape dancer I bar-fined from Avalon a year ago.
Thanks for sharing. Helping me get in the mood for my trip to Angeles in a month.
Old And Ugly
01-10-25, 10:58
There is a guy on the internet that predicted 4 years ago, and just restated it, that Mt Pinatubo will erupt violently on April 22 2025 at 4 am and there will be an earthquake magnitude 8. 4.
I hope he's not a clairvoyant, and AC is still there pass 22 April.
I have concluded WS is a Ponzi scheme. Margarita Station, still being renovated a year on. The bar beside Phillies, gutted to be built again. Walking Street, a dive. The renovations and rent increases are selling the same snake oil again and again, maybe catching Koreans. There is no increased business, just the reverse, so rents should be plummeting in a free market, but not in a Ponzi market like this. Guys talking about perfect boobs, like they had never seen a rice farmer's daughter before. A very large percentage of sex is now online hook ups. Some filter work and she has the perfect boobs.
ThreeInches
01-10-25, 14:18
Margarita Station.This moved down the street near jo's cafe because of high rent its not being renovated.
Mr Enternational
01-10-25, 15:03
There is no increased business, just the reverse, so rents should be plummeting in a free market, but not in a Ponzi market like this.It seems you learned your economics in the first world talking about what something should do. In the third world rent is either what the owner says it should be or what you negotiate it to be.
Guys talking about perfect boobs, like they had never seen a rice farmer's daughter before.LOL. Well some guys act like they have never had pussy before or this may be the last chance at pussy they will ever have. Many watch too much porno and expect the real world to be that way. It is like me watching all of Liam Neeson's movies and being on guard everyday expecting someone to kidnap my daughter at any minute.
Forgetting I almost cracked an ankle, many of the freelancers look like middle aged fishmongers gone to seed. Two well dressed hookers (ages 27 and 19) wanted 20 minutes with me for 1. 5 k apiece. Peeked into some clubs. Almost empty even though women are supposed to be back now (= long break by Pinoy standards). Phillies had a decent crowd and lots of guys straining in to watch American sports. I might take a other ramble up but I would get more horned up at a funeral than that glorified dirt track.
The thing with the rents and the refurbishments is the guys in charge don't give a fuck. Real. Last stop before the end of the world. That said, I got a nice smile today from a toothless candy seller. She had been giving me a he eye when I passed so I made a point of stopping. A definite 0. 2 in anyone's book.
Just a quiet dive. Almost cracked the ankle again on another bomb crater. Quite a crowd around Phillies, ladyboys and young hookers I guess but I did not tarry. Lots of bums selling fake Viagra and obese bar ladies in WWW gear. Place is a real turn off. I might try again tomorrow night.
I have found a quiet place near Johnnys to eat. One of the freelancers LOL oked like one of the waitresses. My virginity is still intact.
Old And Ugly
01-10-25, 18:01
It seems you learned your economics in the first world talking about what something should do. In the third world rent is either what the owner says it should be or what you negotiate it to be.
.......It's true, economics of any kind doesn't apply in PH, just look at all the empty restaurants, not only in AC, with a dozen waitresses and waiters playing with the phones while you are the only customer, still offering poor service, and it makes you wander how can the employer pay their wages, even if they are minimal. 10-12 people, for 30 days it adds up. Same in the supermarket 100 people waiting to check out, only 2 cashiers semi asleep, and 50 employees hiding behind shelves doing nothing.
On the WS it may be a different story, probably money laundering for the korean mafia, hundreds of mules coming in every day with dirty cash, that's being then sent back cleaned up via the businesses that don't do very well in appearance but may be excelling on paper. The mules may get a free fuck or something similar, therefore the girls in the whole bar being bused to some cheap rental far away where the mules await for the reward.
Knowing the koreans, it may be that the BGs have to do this as part of their duties, for free, maybe some tips. If so that explains the whole secrecy surrounding the pussy shuttles.
Mr Enternational
01-10-25, 18:37
It's true, economics of any kind doesn't apply in PH, just look at all the empty restaurants, not only in AC, with a dozen waitresses and waiters playing with the phones while you are the only customer, still offering poor service, and it makes you wander how can the employer pay their wages, even if they are minimal. 10-12 people, for 30 days it adds up. Same in the supermarket 100 people waiting to check out, only 2 cashiers semi asleep, and 50 employees hiding behind shelves doing nothing.Well in the department stores they are all doing something. One person to help you with what you want. One person to go get it. One person to ring it up. One person to put it in the bag. One person to hand the bag to you. I think I bought a t-shirt or something at Robinson's and 5 people had to be involved in the purchase.
Engine Driver
01-11-25, 05:05
I have concluded WS is a Ponzi scheme. Margarita Station, still being renovated a year on. The bar beside Phillies, gutted to be built again. Walking Street, a dive. The renovations and rent increases are selling the same snake oil again and again, maybe catching Koreans. There is no increased business, just the reverse, so rents should be plummeting in a free market, but not in a Ponzi market like this. Guys talking about perfect boobs, like they had never seen a rice farmer's daughter before. A very large percentage of sex is now online hook ups. Some filter work and she has the perfect boobs.Margarita Station has shifted to a more palatial venue near the Perimeter. Not much atmosphere, but all the US veterans are still drinking there. Normal rules of economics don't apply on Walking Street. Most of the bars and restaurants are just fronts for laundering of drug profits. There's no reason whatsoever for these "businesses" to have customers.
Margarita Station has shifted to a more palatial venue near the Perimeter. Not much atmosphere, but all the US veterans are still drinking there. Normal rules of economics don't apply on Walking Street. Most of the bars and restaurants are just fronts for laundering of drug profits. There's no reason whatsoever for these "businesses" to have customers.What is the evidence for the allegation that the bars and restaurants are fronts for drug money laundering? It sounds like wild speculation to me.
I walked up WS around mid day. Korean vans pull up and take away women, as other hookers make their way to the money changers. I guess WS is mostly a warehouse for Korean meat trade gangsters. Keep the expired meat there until needed. Then the Korean accountants would have great fun creatively arranging profit and loss ledgers. Some ok hookers outside Phillies, one shoeless and another with a badly pockmarked face but two nice teeth. I guess the last time some of the had a good night's sleep was when General Big Dick Yamashita surrendered in 1945. Lots of our Korean goons wear Korean Army shirts. I know they do mitary service but some of them look like rough blades.
I walked up WS around mid day. Korean vans pull up and take away women, as other hookers make their way to the money changers.
What is the evidence for the allegation that the bars and restaurants are fronts for drug money laundering? It sounds like wild speculation to me.Speculation maybe, but there's something going on here.
When prostitution is involved, you have to feel sorry for the girls, and worldwide, prostitution has been linked to organized crime.
And I'm not for getting into any arguments, but _.
Do we REALLY know what their work conditions are and what 'pressure' is being applied behind the scenes?
Do we REALLY know who owns and runs all these bars?
It's obvious the Koreans have taken advantage of the situation in The Phils and have taken over with limited restrictions.
Are they on-side with local authorities to get what they want? - Please note, I didn't say bribe local government officials.
And it's not only in AC.
Sadly, once a new opportunist gets involved, there's a take-over effect and it's all for profit and others will follow.
Gone are the good old days of the past.
The ex-military from various countries years ago must be horrified with the current situation, compared to years prior.
_ Just my opinion _ Phil.
Giovanni Volo
01-11-25, 21:02
Hello everybody.
I am coming in Philippine from Friday 18th of April till Saturday 3rd of May.
I know is not the best time to look for girls, but these are my holydays. .
I know FIlippine girls live town during that time.
In your wiew in Makati there are someones living that remain and keep working? (obvioulsy Esatern day exclude).
And, more important question, around when a right quantity of girls be back to work in Angels City? Around 25th of April or when?
Thanks in advance for any useful reply. When girls are not here I will go to some island for the sea (Boracay or Palawan).
Mr Enternational
01-11-25, 23:03
When prostitution is involved, you have to feel sorry for the girls, and worldwide, prostitution has been linked to organized crime.So what you are saying is that you are no longer going to take any of the girls?
Engine Driver
01-12-25, 00:10
What is the evidence for the allegation that the bars and restaurants are fronts for drug money laundering? It sounds like wild speculation to me.You sir are one naive monger. Have you been to the Philippines before? Legitimate Korean businessmen do not fly into Angeles City to set up bars and clubs which promote prostitution. Since time immemorial, the drug trade, flesh trade and laundering of profits has been controlled by organised crime. Open your eyes.
FFS.
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