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Been sitting by the pool on my hotel SB since 10:17 pm is now 10:53. Seen six different guys come in with girls all of them Korean some of the girls were pretty cute. Only seen one none Korean attempt to bring in a girl. A white guy tried to bring in a Phillies freelancer but she didn't have proper ID so wasn't allowed in. Some of the freelancers can be cute the diamond in the ruff but most of them are sub five and ran through. As a none Korean it can be an up hill battle to get a really cute 19/20 year old to go with you. You can get them once they are north of 22 and the Koreans are through with her but before that she is Korean only girl.I have sat many times at ABC Hotel lobby and in Aqua Club, I can tell you for sure that the Koreans walking by either to their rooms or to Aqua do NOT have any more beautiful girls than anyone else. Rest assured they do not. I have never seen Koreans having the top girls.
BTW, Korean paying less for girls is BS too. I know a few girls, although nice looking having trouble getting barfines of 5 k on Red Street. 6 weeks ago they went to work at a KTV in Korea town making 7-10 k a barfine. They get exactly half of the BF plus a higher daily salary. They are BF regularly. Koreans do not have all the top lookers.
I have used doxyPep during all my stays (literally 100's or girls) and never gotten anything.In Days of Old, When Men Were Bold, and VD not invented, They'd wrap a sock around their cock and STDs prevented!
My attitude is not cavalier, but I do understand how to minimize the risk to make the risk worth the reward. All of life is risk / reward. Like Chris, I have used doxyPep during all my stays (literally 100's or girls) and never gotten anything.I started taking doxycycline last year after the catching something last year. It does help to minimize the risk of catching a number of STDs if you bareback. So far so good with Doxy Prep for the past year. You can also take PREP pills for HIV if you want additional protection but that is a little much drugs for me. The new HIV prevention shot that provides protection for 6 months is very promising. I would consider it.
Chris Long
07-06-25, 06:59
She doesn't like staying in the staff house, so I let her stay with me. Has its benefits of boom boom every morning and sometimes it's neat having her around but when she lets one go it is a turn off. I never say anything or draw attention to it, but it is a turn off. She pees in front of me as well which doesn't bother me but silently letting one go is a turn off.
I caught syphilis in Angeles City or Manila in 2019. Was in Manilla first but did not notice any symptoms until I was in Angeles City so not sure which place I caught it. Was misdiagnosed twice in Angeles City but got tested and treated when I returned to the US when I was still in stage one.
Caught gonorrhea in 2013 in Angeles City I believe I got it from the cutest little barbie doll I picked up at High Society. Caught it the very end of my trip and was scheduled to go to Sosua within a week of leaving Angeles City so was able to buy over the counter Doxycycline and azithromycin to treat it. Today its stronger so now you need even more to treat it. Caught it again in 2017 in Angeles City but within a week of returning I was in Mexico and was able to see a Dr. And get treated there.
I used to catch Chlamydia maybe a half dozen times in Medellin back in the twenty teens and would get treated when I returned to the states. Also caught crabs I think from one of those Plaza Botero girls back in 2022.
Have been taking doxy prep as well as Truvada ever since 2022 and have not caught anything since then.I caught gonorrhea or chlamydia (didn't have it tested) in Angeles in 2017, and that was also the last time I caught an STD. I think I got it from a street walker.
Since then I'm clean, even though I'm barebacking hookers in my home country and have been on holiday to the Philippines and Thailand 18 times in total. (Mostly Thailand, last time in the Philippines was in 2019.)
I started mongering in 1995. At first only in my home country (Netherlands), but since 2004 also in South-East Asia. I have been to Thailand, Philippines, Cambodia, Laos, Vietnam, and South Korea.
Between 1995 and 2017 I caught gonorrhea or chlamydia about ten times, I think. I never caught any other STD.
I caught something in Thailand the most, in the Philippines maybe once or twice, and also in Cambodia once or twice, as far as I can remember. I never caught anything in my home country, or any of the other countries that I mentioned.
I'm not taking doxy prep or any other medication as a precaution. I don't think it's good for your body to take medication when you're not ill. But that's just me.
Old And Ugly
07-06-25, 22:27
I have sat many times at ABC Hotel lobby and in Aqua Club, I can tell you for sure that the Koreans walking by either to their rooms or to Aqua do NOT have any more beautiful girls than anyone else. Rest assured they do not. I have never seen Koreans having the top girls.
BTW, Korean paying less for girls is BS too. I know a few girls, although nice looking having trouble getting barfines of 5 k on Red Street. 6 weeks ago they went to work at a KTV in Korea town making 7-10 k a barfine. They get exactly half of the BF plus a higher daily salary. They are BF regularly. Koreans do not have all the top lookers.My conclusion is that K get the ones with white skin, and child like features, both being a turn off for me, I like them dark, and sultry looking if possible.
FuriousGeorge
07-06-25, 22:44
I have a particular type: "HOT". Truly can't break it down more than that. Ok no fatties. And DG is correct, the Koreans don't have hotter girls available to them. They do tend to hit the bars early and scoop them up, and they do tend to groom themselves and dress better than the gringos. Beyond that, it's rarely a race issue.
My conclusion is that K get the ones with white skin, and child like features, both being a turn off for me, I like them dark, and sultry looking if possible.
Old And Ugly
07-06-25, 22:55
After 10 days in Pattaya my conclusion is that if you put aside the food, hotel quality, infrastructure, and the rest of the stuff, and compare both places from a mongerer's perspective, AC is without any doubt net superior. The ratio of good looking girls is about the same, you're just seeing them all out on display in P, not hidden inside like in AC, the final price out the door about the same, except that in P will be mostly in the back room and not in the comfort and cleanliness of your hotel or apartment. In P condom is the norm, also ST is prevalent, and is 1 only hour, sort of bam-bam, thanks' ma'am even for FLs. But by reading the P forum one will get to the conclusion, that mongerers there prefer the 1 HR ST in house BF anyway. Also my favorite mongering activity, 3 somes is kind of inexistent. Outside the Soy 6 and WS, in all the bars 99% of the BGs are geriatrics. Good for a change from time to time, but not necessarily better.
P.S. I'm expecting a lot of push back for putting AC on top.
My conclusion is that K get the ones with white skin, and child like features, both being a turn off for me, I like them dark, and sultry looking if possible.You are right about the lighter skin types. But I am judging by tight tone body types. Koreans definitely don't have the market on them. However the Koreans like to bar hop and go out with the girls all dressed up hanging on their arms. There is WS bar that charges less a "service" barfine where the girls just bar hops with them and no sex.
I myself like to go straight to the room and get to business. In between sessions the girl can take a nice bath in the room or go up to Aqua for a swim.
After 10 days in Pattaya my conclusion is that if you put aside the food, hotel quality, infrastructure, and the rest of the stuff, and compare both places from a mongerer's perspective, AC is without any doubt net superior. The ratio of good looking girls is about the same, you're just seeing them all out on display in P, not hidden inside like in AC, the final price out the door about the same, except that in P will be mostly in the back room and not in the comfort and cleanliness of your hotel or apartment. In P condom is the norm, also ST is prevalent, and is 1 only hour, sort of bam-bam, thanks' ma'am even for FLs. But by reading the P forum one will get to the conclusion, that mongerers there prefer the 1 HR ST in house BF anyway. Also my favorite mongering activity, 3 somes is kind of inexistent. Outside the Soy 6 and WS, in all the bars 99% of the BGs are geriatrics. Good for a change from time to time, but not necessarily better.
P.S. I'm expecting a lot of push back for putting AC on top.No push back from me. Pattaya was too much for me. Blocks and blocks was overwhelming for me with all the girls promising a good time. I like AC better and won't be going back there. I think the AC girls are much more GFE and prettier. Of course as the naysayer says "beauty is in eyes of the beholder".
MrPalmerAcc
07-07-25, 19:01
No push back from me. Pattaya was too much for me. Blocks and blocks was overwhelming for me with all the girls promising a good time. I like AC better and won't be going back there. I think the AC girls are much more GFE and prettier. Of course as the naysayer says "beauty is in eyes of the beholder".I was just in Pattaya for a couple weeks and agree that AC girls are much more GFE and prettier. Planning a trip to AC and Subic now. Loved Subic because it still seems 100% oriented to Americans.
I was just in Pattaya for a couple weeks and agree that AC girls are much more GFE and prettier. Planning a trip to AC and Subic now. Loved Subic because it still seems 100% oriented to Americans.One area where Thai girls beat Pinas is that the top tier Thais will be taller, slimmer and bustier than her Phil cousin.
Unfortunately, she will also be full of surgeries and tattoos. Both of these are far less likely in the Philippines.
Of course, we are all aware of the risks of taking the very prettiest girls in Thailand. 🍆.
G.
After 10 days in Pattaya my conclusion is that if you put aside the food, hotel quality, infrastructure, and the rest of the stuff, and compare both places from a mongerer's perspective, AC is without any doubt net superior. The ratio of good looking girls is about the same, you're just seeing them all out on display in P, not hidden inside like in AC, the final price out the door about the same, except that in P will be mostly in the back room and not in the comfort and cleanliness of your hotel or apartment. In P condom is the norm, also ST is prevalent, and is 1 only hour, sort of bam-bam, thanks' ma'am even for FLs. But by reading the P forum one will get to the conclusion, that mongerers there prefer the 1 HR ST in house BF anyway. Also my favorite mongering activity, 3 somes is kind of inexistent. Outside the Soy 6 and WS, in all the bars 99% of the BGs are geriatrics. Good for a change from time to time, but not necessarily better.
P.S. I'm expecting a lot of push back for putting AC on top.Maybe its because you are old and ugly (referencing your name) but condom certainly is not the norm in Pattaya. Been going for 10 years now and I can count on one hand how many times girl really insisted on condom.
Are there any apps with bunch of filippinas from Manila / AC where one can do some browsing and arrange a couple ST or LT sessions a day or two before arriving? I love thaifriendly wish there was an equivalent for working girls in PH.
I tried filipino cupid but that's absolute trash 9 out of 10 girls there would need to pay ME to get laid man.
ManFromHeaven
07-08-25, 16:26
https://smooci.com
Take paid membership and contact them. You have option to see the reviews.
Are there any apps with bunch of filippinas from Manila / AC where one can do some browsing and arrange a couple ST or LT sessions a day or two before arriving? I love thaifriendly wish there was an equivalent for working girls in PH.
I tried filipino cupid but that's absolute trash 9 out of 10 girls there would need to pay ME to get laid man.
Old And Ugly
07-08-25, 21:09
Maybe its because you are old and ugly (referencing your name) but condom certainly is not the norm in Pattaya. Been going for 10 years now and I can count on one hand how many times girl really insisted on condom.Can't argue there, very possible, but all the reports in the Pattaya forum are saying the same thing, maybe the other guys are ugly too. But this is my take on it: If I was any younger and handsomer, I wouldn't be in Pattaya paying for it.
Are there any apps with bunch of filippinas from Manila / AC where one can do some browsing and arrange a couple ST or LT sessions a day or two before arriving? I love thaifriendly wish there was an equivalent for working girls in PH.
I tried filipino cupid but that's absolute trash 9 out of 10 girls there would need to pay ME to get laid man.Pina Love is much more reliable for point and shoot than Cupid. Just set your filter to screen out other areas and the MILFs / GILFs.
Pinas are hopeless at planning and scheduling so arrive and ask what they are doing now or tonight rather than booking next month. This also dramatically lowers the flake rate.
Lots of cute 18/19/20 yos looking for school fees.
Enjoy. G.
I tried filipino cupid but that's absolute trash 9 out of 10 girls there would need to pay ME to get laid man.Yeah, there are a lot of fuglies on FC. And now I am bombarded by messages from international fat whales from the USA and elsewhere on FC. Occasionally I hit up a slim young Filipina from FC but not too often. And they ALL want you to send them money. Sheeesh.
Can't argue there, very possible, but all the reports in the Pattaya forum are saying the same thing, maybe the other guys are ugly too. Sorry OldAndUgly, but it's not true that all the reports in the Pattaya forum are saying that condoms are the norm there. On the contrary. Most people say that bareback is still easy to get. Only a few board members have reported that they experienced difficulties getting it. Some of them even said it was hard to get a BBBJ. But they are the exceptions.
Chris Long
07-09-25, 18:42
Sat at Kokomos from around noon until around one sitting here now a little past one thirty am and both times Waking / Red Street was slow dead not a lot of people. Really really slow right now with many people. The same this afternoon.
Old And Ugly
07-09-25, 19:04
Sorry OldAndUgly, but it's not true that all the reports in the Pattaya forum are saying that condoms are the norm there. On the contrary. Most people say that bareback is still easy to get. Only a few board members have reported that they experienced difficulties getting it. Some of them even said it was hard to get a BBBJ. But they are the exceptions.Well that's the report about my last week experience, if you can get it easier BB, more power to you. Maybe I was there during the National Condom Week.
Chris Long
07-09-25, 22:02
After 10 days in Pattaya my conclusion is that if you put aside the food, hotel quality, infrastructure, and the rest of the stuff, and compare both places from a mongerer's perspective, AC is without any doubt net superior. The ratio of good looking girls is about the same, you're just seeing them all out on display in P, not hidden inside like in AC, the final price out the door about the same, except that in P will be mostly in the back room and not in the comfort and cleanliness of your hotel or apartment. In P condom is the norm, also ST is prevalent, and is 1 only hour, sort of bam-bam, thanks' ma'am even for FLs. But by reading the P forum one will get to the conclusion, that mongerers there prefer the 1 HR ST in house BF anyway. Also my favorite mongering activity, 3 somes is kind of inexistent. Outside the Soy 6 and WS, in all the bars 99% of the BGs are geriatrics. Good for a change from time to time, but not necessarily better.
P.S. I'm expecting a lot of push back for putting AC on top.I was in Pattaya last year at this time, things could have changed over the last year, but I had really high success rates with BBFS.
Bangkok, I had 100% success getting any girl I wanted from Nana Plaza bars to go bare back with me. I would simply whisper in her ear "we will boom boom with no condom I will cum outside" and they all agreed, though I'm very choosy on who I go with and only took the ones I thought were the hottest ones many didn't meet my looks requirement so didn't take large numbers of girls from Nana Plaza gogos but everyone I did take all easily agreed to bare back. Any freelancer I wanted always easily agreed to BBFS but the quality was often very poor with a lot of sub fives so didn't take a lot of freelancers. I thought the quality of African girls in Thailand was rather low many agreed to Bare Back but I wasn't interested in them only took one really cute African girl from Zanzibar who easily agreed to Bare Back. Had a girl from the blow job bar agree to boom boom bare back. Took a really cute 19-year-old from a beer garden bar on Soi 7/11 who automatically boom boomed me in the room bare back without even asking.
Pattaya: Took what I considered to be the hottest petite little 19-year-old from Windmill who automatically boom boomed me in the room bare back without asking. She would come and see me two or three times a week outside of the bar for half the bar fine price always bare back. Didn't really bar fine a lot from Walking Street as walking street has really lost the erotic vibe it used to have. In my opinion now it's the family friendly walking street where you can bring the wife and kids. I stay on Soi Honey /11 where all the massage / boom boom parlors are. Had 100% success getting the massage girls to boom boom me bare back. A couple came to the room and automatically boom boomed me bare back without even asking others did not want to leave their parlor I would whisper in her ear we will boom boom with no condom, and they all agreed. Soi 6 I only approached what I considered to be the hottest girls and again had 100% success getting everyone I wanted to go bare back with me, some were initially NO but I would buy them a drink show them what prep is show them what Doxyprep is show them my three years of every three months of negative test and offer to give them a Truvada pill and two Doxycycline pills and they all agreed even though they were initially a Strong NO. Had one who I thought was the best-looking girl in the bar, I think it was called liquid bar, I looked at the receipt in the cup and it said Long Time Bar Fine. I asked her "are we bar fining long time" she just shook her head yes. The next day she said was her day off and she would stay with me then just staid again a third day, She even paid twice during the three days for dinner. After the third day I asked her how much I owed her and she only charged me the long time price for the first night. Picked up girls in the beer bars on LK Metro again only took what I considered to be the hottest and each one of them easily agreed to bare back. My favorite bars on LK Metro had some really cute 18,19-year-old who all agreed to bare back with me and several of them would meet me outside of the bar without the bar fine price. The place where I had the biggest push back was Beach Road, the quality was rather poor but overwhelmingly the girls there were all a strong NO when it came to bare back.
My PinaLove account got suspended and now it looks like I'm banned from the app! Has this happened to anyone? I'm not sure what happened but if I make a new account everything is fine until I upload a photo, then it disables the new account.
I have tried 3 times and every time it will disables the account after I upload a photo of me. I even used an old photo of me this last time and it worked until I went to verify, once it filmed my face to verify it disabled the account. You have to be "verified" to write people so I'm stuck! I even wrote PinaLove but haven't heard anything back in over a week.
I had tons of good luck with the app so I don't want to give up on it! Anyone have any ideas how to fix it??
Old And Ugly
07-10-25, 16:21
I was in Pattaya last year at this time, things could have changed over the last year, but I had really high success rates with BBFS.
Bangkok, I had 100% success getting any girl I wanted from Nana Plaza bars to go bare back with me. I would simply whisper in her ear "we will boom boom with no condom I will cum outside" and they all agreed, though I'm very choosy on who I go with and only took the ones I thought were the hottest ones many didn't meet my looks requirement so didn't take large numbers of girls from Nana Plaza gogos but everyone I did take all easily agreed to bare back. Any freelancer I wanted always easily agreed to BBFS but the quality was often very poor with a lot of sub fives so didn't take a lot of freelancers. I thought the quality of African girls in Thailand was rather low many agreed to Bare Back but I wasn't interested in them only took one really cute African girl from Zanzibar who easily agreed to Bare Back. Had a girl from the blow job bar agree to boom boom bare back. Took a really cute 19-year-old from a beer garden bar on Soi 7/11 who automatically boom boomed me in the room bare back without even asking.
Pattaya: Took what I considered to be the hottest petite little 19-year-old from Windmill who automatically boom boomed me in the room bare back without asking. She would come and see me two or three times a week outside of the bar for half the bar fine price always bare back. Didn't really bar fine a lot from Walking Street as walking street has really lost the erotic vibe it used to have. In my opinion now it's the family friendly walking street where you can bring the wife and kids. I stay on Soi Honey /11 where all the massage / boom boom parlors are. Had 100% success getting the massage girls to boom boom me bare back. A couple came to the room and automatically boom boomed me bare back without even asking others did not want to leave their parlor I would whisper in her ear we will boom boom with no condom, and they all agreed. Soi 6 I only approached what I considered to be the hottest girls and again had 100% success getting everyone I wanted to go bare back with me, some were initially NO but I would buy them a drink show them what prep is show them what Doxyprep is show them my three years of every three months of negative test and offer to give them a Truvada pill and two Doxycycline pills and they all agreed even though they were initially a Strong NO. Had one who I thought was the best-looking girl in the bar, I think it was called liquid bar, I looked at the receipt in the cup and it said Long Time Bar Fine. I asked her "are we bar fining long time" she just shook her head yes. The next day she said was her day off and she would stay with me then just staid again a third day, She even paid twice during the three days for dinner. After the third day I asked her how much I owed her and she only charged me the long time price for the first night. Picked up girls in the beer bars on LK Metro again only took what I considered to be the hottest and each one of them easily agreed to bare back. My favorite bars on LK Metro had some really cute 18,19-year-old who all agreed to bare back with me and several of them would meet me outside of the bar without the bar fine price. The place where I had the biggest push back was Beach Road, the quality was rather poor but overwhelmingly the girls there were all a strong NO when it came to bare back.Everybody has different experiences, I'm old and when I look in the mirror I don't see a beauty pageant contestant, maybe the other mongerers that reported about the condom situations are in the same category as I am. I don't even remember how many I banged in a week there, about half without rubber, I stopped counting few decades ago. As I mentioned before, I cannot turn time back, and cannot do much about the looks, therefore here I am in SEA paying for it same as everybody else old or young and handsome, otherwise I'll be in Vegas banging for free hoards of young tourists in town for the weekend, drunk out of their minds, and blinded by all the glitz and glamour. I don't see my time in SEA as an achievement, but as a solution to a problem that can't be solved in US or EU unless you're young or your name is Clooney or Caprio.
PS Also last year in PH wasn't much talk about condoms compared to this time around.
Locamotive
07-10-25, 17:00
I was in Pattaya last year at this time, things could have changed over the last year, but I had really high success rates with BBFS.
Bangkok, I had 100% success getting any girl I wanted from Nana Plaza bars to go bare back with me. I would simply whisper in her ear "we will boom boom with no condom I will cum outside" and they all agreed, though I'm very choosy on who I go with and only took the ones I thought were the hottest ones many didn't meet my looks requirement so didn't take large numbers of girls from Nana Plaza gogos but everyone I did take all easily agreed to bare back. Any freelancer I wanted always easily agreed to BBFS but the quality was often very poor with a lot of sub fives so didn't take a lot of freelancers. I thought the quality of African girls in Thailand was rather low many agreed to Bare Back but I wasn't interested in them only took one really cute African girl from Zanzibar who easily agreed to Bare Back. Had a girl from the blow job bar agree to boom boom bare back. Took a really cute 19-year-old from a beer garden bar on Soi 7/11 who automatically boom boomed me in the room bare back without even asking..At least from my experience lately I suggest you stay in Thailand. Condom free in the Philippine's appears to be rare these days. Maybe online or deep in a province somewhere but all the bars at least in Manila it was no, no and no.
My PinaLove account got suspended and now it looks like I'm banned from the app! Has this happened to anyone? I'm not sure what happened but if I make a new account everything is fine until I upload a photo, then it disables the new account.
I have tried 3 times and every time it will disables the account after I upload a photo of me. I even used an old photo of me this last time and it worked until I went to verify, once it filmed my face to verify it disabled the account. You have to be "verified" to write people so I'm stuck! I even wrote PinaLove but haven't heard anything back in over a week.
I had tons of good luck with the app so I don't want to give up on it! Anyone have any ideas how to fix it??For responses you should move this to the Pina Love forum.
PS Also last year in PH wasn't much talk about condoms compared to this time around.I'm not going to get into the politics or conspiracy theories behind the latest HIV scare campaign but one thing it has done is raise awareness. Every girl I met on my last trip was concerned about it and most at least raised the question of condoms. As I said in my trip reports, several even insisted on negative blood tests. This was the first time they have even been mentioned.
For the record, I was working off old contacts and online. I went to bars but didn't barfine.
G.
Chris Long
07-10-25, 20:41
At least from my experience lately I suggest you stay in Thailand. Condom free in the Philippine's appears to be rare these days. Maybe online or deep in a province somewhere but all the bars at least in Manila it was no, no and no.I only spent one day in Manila this year but spent a fair amount of time there last year at this time and had a lot of push back from the girls about going Bare Back had several refused so took a pass on them. This year arrived in Manila very late went to LA Cafe picked up a girl who was a sister to another girl I seen several times last year. She was initially refusing to go bare back but told her, her sister always went bare back with me, and she hesitantly agreed to go bare back. I think Manila is changing and insisting upon condom use now. Have been in Angeles since May 3rd have not bar fined in about a month now as I have a long list of bar girls who come see me outside of the bar. But during the first month I had no problem getting bar girls to go bare back. I may bar fine new girls again next week and see if there is any change in the atmosphere about going bare back from bar girls. My concern is this general reluctance and opposition in Manila of girls to go bare back will spread to the Angeles City girls.
Funny, every time I ask one of my girls if they go bare back with all of their customers every one of them to a girl says "Oh no only with you" which is 100% a lie because every guy I know here all say they go bare back.
For responses you should move this to the Pina Love forum.I'll try but that section only has a few posts a year and not any active users.
WestCoast1
07-11-25, 16:19
I only spent one day in Manila this year but spent a fair amount of time there last year at this time and had a lot of push back from the girls about going Bare Back had several refused so took a pass on them. This year arrived in Manila very late went to LA Cafe picked up a girl who was a sister to another girl I seen several times last year. She was initially refusing to go bare back SNIP My concern is this general reluctance and opposition in Manila of girls to go bare back will spread to the Angeles City girls.
Every girl I met on my last trip was concerned about it and most at least raised the question of condoms.
Condom free in the Philippine's appears to be rare these days. All this talk of covers. Ick. Its an issue for traditional mongering (looking for fresh meat). Get yourself some regulars in your phone who were fine with uncovered before (at least as backup when you are on the hunt for fresh). Head might be in the sand, but hope it dissipates like before.
Old And Ugly
07-12-25, 08:52
All this talk of covers. Ick. Its an issue for traditional mongering (looking for fresh meat). Get yourself some regulars in your phone who were fine with uncovered before (at least as backup when you are on the hunt for fresh). Head might be in the sand, but hope it dissipates like before.My problem is that I like variety, therefore not so many repeats, unless they are of exceptional value. In AC even if asked to wear one, is rare to find one that cannot be convinced otherwise. In Pattaya was about 50-50 success rate.
WestCoast1
07-12-25, 13:43
My problem is that I like variety, therefore not so many repeats, unless they are of exceptional value. In AC even if asked to wear one, is rare to find one that cannot be convinced otherwise. In Pattaya was about 50-50 success rate.You are in a different position than most mongers, and in the same situation that I suggest: You have a condom-less backup girl available for when you can't get variety. Party on, Garth.
Old And Ugly
07-12-25, 14:24
You are in a different position than most mongers, and in the same situation that I suggest: You have a condom-less backup girl available for when you can't get variety. Party on, Garth.That's true, but being fucked up in the head, I lose interest pretty quick, this is why variety is a necessary thing to maintain a "healthy" relationship.
Even when I do only my GF I look at her thinking of past or future combinations, and she knows it. I don't really watch porn, because my vivid memories are more intense, but the GF is addicted to it.
That's true, but being fucked up in the head, I lose interest pretty quick, this is why variety is a necessary thing to maintain a "healthy" relationship.
Even when I do only my GF I look at her thinking of past or future combinations, and she knows it. I don't really watch porn, because my vivid memories are more intense, but the GF is addicted to it.An excess of supply can do strange things to a guy:
I've broken up with great girls for the most ridiculous reasons. Wearing the wrong colour nail polish was probably one of the more petty.
Many girls say I'm a nice guy because I don't ask for nudes online. They don't realise that photos are pointless when the real thing is only six inches away.
It doesn't matter how pretty the current date is, it's only a matter of hours before someone prettier walks past.
I've found it impossible to have fantasies in Asia because nothing is out of reach. Want to try XYZ? Some one somewhere will be up to giving it a try.
We also have the other side where even the most intelligent and rational Asian girl will soon show her true self to be bat shit crazy. I'm constantly surprised how sanity is only fleeting even amongst girls who are outwardly very normal.
Enjoy. G.
Parasitius
07-12-25, 23:16
Thanks to Mogwai, I forgot about TF, plenty of girls there, mostly premium for subscribers only, but there still plenty of fish for the freeloaders like me, so I got the first one that I talked to, a cute 21 yo, $50 (1. 5 K) . For an additional 500 she went bareback. She didn't seem to be a pro, was kind of shy, pretty face, nice smile and good body, kind of short, around 5. 1 . The face was much better than the pic.
It appears that I'm going online shopping for the next 3 days, 2-3 times a day.
On TF, I think the AI looks at the nr of visitors and upgrades the girls to premium only, therefore the new ones are the accessible ones, and that's in fact exactly what I need.She accepted Baht in Angeles City?
BaddHabbit
07-13-25, 02:07
You are in a different position than most mongers, and in the same situation that I suggest: You have a condom-less backup girl available for when you can't get variety. Party on, Garth.I live in Cebu and have a few regulars that I see and none of them have ever asked for condom use. However, I did recently meet up with a new girl and she wanted me to wear a condom. I said I didn't have any at which point she said pussy was off-limits but was still happy for me to fuck her mouth or ass.
She seems to have gotten the message about STDs, but only acquainted that to "standard" sex. And no it wasn't a question of pregnancy as she made it clear she would be quite happy to have a baby from me "you wouldn't have to be a father" Sorry babe, I've had a vasectomy. And the condom could cause an issue with that plan. Met her a second time and a condom was not a requirement any longer, because hey! Once you've had sex with someone once I guess you can't get an STD from them?
Party on Wayne.
Chris Long
07-13-25, 02:28
Madona Bar has changed no longer do they have the gold, Red, White, Black Dresses and 12 k, 10 k, 8 k, 6 k, Prices. I was told it's a new owner now. Korean bar like the Korean bars the girls all wear their regular cloths. I went in with a girl so didn't try to bar fine. Was in around 9 ish 10 ish pm so the best girls were probably gone by then, but they had a good number of girls available all were between 4 to 6 in looks IMO. Went in with my 18-year-old province girl who comes in on the weekends to see me joked with her and asked what girl she would like to pick for a threesome. Had one girl come down and bought her a drink asked about bar fine price, and she told me it was 6 k but we didn't bar fine her.
Before going to Madona Bar we eat at Walkabout / around the food came with Chinese Communist flags in it, so apparently Walkabout / around is owned by the CCP. Think I will avoid this place from now on.
Went into Skyfall around 11 ish 12 ish because my girl knows a girl who works there. Still had a good number of girls of which two or three were cute the rest between 4 to 6. I walked in with a girl, so a lot of the girls didn't stand up when we went in. But I noticed when white guys walked in the two cute girls didn't bother to take the stage or present themselves but when Korean guys came in the two cute girls would take the stage and smile and present themselves to them. A couple days ago went into Lofty bar a Korean bar and the two cutest girls would not go with me the other girls were very friendly smiling and letting me know they were open to going with me, but the two cutest ones had their noses up in the air I noticed they did the same thing when two Indian guys came in and showed interest in them. In the Korean bars the really cute girls DO NOT GO WITH NONE-KOREANS. Was told there is a Whatsapp community for Koreans only where the best-looking girls are available to them.
On another note, went into Atlantis a couple times last week low number of girls not like it was in the past when they had dozens of girls. The girls were all average no standouts a couple of maybes, I know the manager and she was prompting me to pick a girl so both times pick one of the maybes nice girls not bad looking but not standouts. Toyed with the ideal of bar fining them and asked both of them and both times the girls were open for going but both times the girls insisted upon condom use. Tried a little to talk them into going bare back more out of curiosity of if they would do it than actually wanting them. Neither would bend I was not that interested in them and passed. If you like BBFS maybe Atlantis is a place to be avoided, quality of girls in my opinion is only average and they seem to be stuck on condom use.
Old And Ugly
07-13-25, 08:01
She accepted Baht in Angeles City?Yes you can exchange TB at the money changer close to Narciso St, I just exchanged some leftovers.
(I know you're asking about the girls, we were talking about Pattaya vs AC).
Chris Long
07-13-25, 11:09
Score birds canceled its pool party for July two months in a row now. The excuse given is weather which is odd because the event is nearly two weeks away and the weather could be fine for the party. Many people are saying they don't have enough girls which could be the case because they only have the two bars but girls from some of the other bars also enter. Not enough girls could be the case as my Doll House girl who I see outside of the bar did not know you tube vloggers were recording the event and placing it on you tube and tik tok, when I showed her herself in the April pool party on you tube she said she was not going to do it anymore because she did not want her family to find out. Could be because it's simply not profitable anymore attendance is often low at many of the pool parties.
On another note, my XS girl one of the three I see outside of the bar just left and told me XS is thinking of raising bar fine for black tap model girls to 7 k. Ouch expensive, typical third world thinking as she told me management was saying the bar has been slow, so they need to raise prices, its 6 K now which is over $100 US, at 7 K you're now pushing nearly $200 US Ouch my XS girls come see me for 3 k which is half the bar fine price. Best strategy is to go into the bar, bar fine the girl you think is the hottest one then back in the room exchange contact information and offer her a price maybe a little above what she gets from the bar fine and have her see you outside of the bar at a discount. Problem with this is they think of you as an ATM and want to see you every day. No matter how Hot she is you get tired of boom booming the same girls every day.
One of the dancers at viking that I've known for a few years, just told me while out the other week that Madonna is the same owner as Viking and J Bar. She had to walkover to dance at Madonna at times.
Madona Bar has changed no longer do they have the gold, Red, White, Black Dresses and 12 k, 10 k, 8 k, 6 k, Prices. I was told it's a new owner now. Korean bar like the Korean bars the girls all wear their regular cloths. I went in with a girl so didn't try to bar fine. Was in around 9 ish 10 ish pm so the best girls were probably gone by then, but they had a good number of girls available all were between 4 to 6 in looks IMO. Went in with my 18-year-old province girl who comes in on the weekends to see me joked with her and asked what girl she would like to pick for a threesome. Had one girl come down and bought her a drink asked about bar fine price, and she told me it was 6 k but we didn't bar fine her.
Before going to Madona Bar we eat at Walkabout / around the food came with Chinese Communist flags in it, so apparently Walkabout / around is owned by the CCP. Think I will avoid this place from now on.
Went into Skyfall around 11 ish 12 ish because my girl knows a girl who works there. Still had a good number of girls of which two or three were cute the rest between 4 to 6. I walked in with a girl, so a lot of the girls didn't stand up when we went in. But I noticed when white guys walked in the two cute girls didn't bother to take the stage or present themselves but when Korean guys came in the two cute girls would take the stage and smile and present themselves to them. A couple days ago went into Lofty bar a Korean bar and the two cutest girls would not go with me the other girls were very friendly smiling and letting me know they were open to going with me, but the two cutest ones had their noses up in the air I noticed they did the same thing when two Indian guys came in and showed interest in them. In the Korean bars the really cute girls DO NOT GO WITH NONE-KOREANS. Was told there is a Whatsapp community for Koreans only where the best-looking girls are available to them.
On another note, went into Atlantis a couple times last week low number of girls not like it was in the past when they had dozens of girls. The girls were all average no standouts a couple of maybes, I know the manager and she was prompting me to pick a girl so both times pick one of the maybes nice girls not bad looking but not standouts. Toyed with the ideal of bar fining them and asked both of them and both times the girls were open for going but both times the girls insisted upon condom use. Tried a little to talk them into going bare back more out of curiosity of if they would do it than actually wanting them. Neither would bend I was not that interested in them and passed. If you like BBFS maybe Atlantis is a place to be avoided, quality of girls in my opinion is only average and they seem to be stuck on condom use.
MrPalmerAcc
07-15-25, 05:18
How bad is the rain in August / September? If any of you have been there in these months, was it raining hard non-stop or just some showers for part of the day?
Chris Long
07-15-25, 05:33
Been sitting at Kokomos since about 11:30 am it's now 12:30 been raining the whole time. Seems like some pretty cute girls in front of 123, Hi Quality, Bad Boys, and Bar Nana. But they are probably Korean only girls.
How bad is the rain in August / September? If any of you have been there in these months, was it raining hard non-stop or just some showers for part of the day?Have to say that rain has never blocked a V for me in AC. Takes a little longer for the girl to arrive at the hotel. OTOH girls stay longer especially if it is raining hard. Raining season is still good mongering. BTW, no one has ever died from the warm rain in PH.
FFlintstone69
07-16-25, 01:48
I only spent one day in Manila this year but spent a fair amount of time there last year at this time and had a lot of push back from the girls about going Bare Back had several refused so took a pass on them. This year arrived in Manila very late went to LA Cafe picked up a girl who was a sister to another girl I seen several times last year. She was initially refusing to go bare back but told her, her sister always went bare back with me, and she hesitantly agreed to go bare back. I think Manila is changing and insisting upon condom use now. Have been in Angeles since May 3rd have not bar fined in about a month now as I have a long list of bar girls who come see me outside of the bar. But during the first month I had no problem getting bar girls to go bare back. I may bar fine new girls again next week and see if there is any change in the atmosphere about going bare back from bar girls. My concern is this general reluctance and opposition in Manila of girls to go bare back will spread to the Angeles City girls.
Funny, every time I ask one of my girls if they go bare back with all of their customers every one of them to a girl says "Oh no only with you" which is 100% a lie because every guy I know here all say they go bare back."had a lot of push back from the girls about going Bare Back had several refused so took a pass on them".
If mongers stick together on this, they can't flip the script, AC doesn't have much going for it, never has.
Take away BB and forget it.
Only if guys aren't SIMPs and stand tall and say HELL NO to any requests for condoms.
I didn't even know they sell them in PI I've never seen one in years of visits, are western feminist NGOs shipping them in?
Only SIMPs will cave and destroy the only thing going for AC, cmon guys "don't be that guy".
How bad is the rain in August / September? If any of you have been there in these months, was it raining hard non-stop or just some showers for part of the day?Seldom does it rain all day. Usually in spurts of an hour or 2. Often several per day but even during rainy season there are days of sunshine. If it rained all day, everyday this place would sink.
Locamotive
07-16-25, 05:09
Score birds canceled its pool party for July two months in a row now. The excuse given is weather which is odd because the event is nearly two weeks away and the weather could be fine for the party. Many people are saying they don't have enough girls which could be the case because they only have the two bars but girls from some of the other bars also enter. Not enough girls could be the case as my Doll House girl who I see outside of the bar did not know you tube vloggers were recording the event and placing it on you tube and tik tok, when I showed her herself in the April pool party on you tube she said she was not going to do it anymore because she did not want her family to find out. Could be because it's simply not profitable anymore attendance is often low at many of the pool parties.
On another note, my XS girl one of the three I see outside of the bar just left and told me XS is thinking of raising bar fine for black tap model girls to 7 k. Ouch expensive, typical third world thinking as she told me management was saying the bar has been slow, so they need to raise prices, its 6 K now which is over $100 US, at 7 K you're now pushing nearly $200 US Ouch my XS girls come see me for 3 k which is half the bar fine price. Best strategy is to go into the bar, bar fine the girl you think is the hottest one then back in the room exchange contact information and offer her a price maybe a little above what she gets from the bar fine and have her see you outside of the bar at a discount. Problem with this is they think of you as an ATM and want to see you every day. No matter how Hot she is you get tired of boom booming the same girls every day.Yeah that sucks about the pool party. Vloggers cause problems in more ways than this. Hopefully the Philippines will crack down and stop this crap.
Locamotive
07-16-25, 05:19
I only spent one day in Manila this year but spent a fair amount of time there last year at this time and had a lot of push back from the girls about going Bare Back had several refused so took a pass on them. This year arrived in Manila very late went to LA Cafe picked up a girl who was a sister to another girl I seen several times last year. She was initially refusing to go bare back but told her, her sister always went bare back with me, and she hesitantly agreed to go bare back. I think Manila is changing and insisting upon condom use now. Have been in Angeles since May 3rd have not bar fined in about a month now as I have a long list of bar girls who come see me outside of the bar. But during the first month I had no problem getting bar girls to go bare back. I may bar fine new girls again next week and see if there is any change in the atmosphere about going bare back from bar girls. My concern is this general reluctance and opposition in Manila of girls to go bare back will spread to the Angeles City girls.
Funny, every time I ask one of my girls if they go bare back with all of their customers every one of them to a girl says "Oh no only with you" which is 100% a lie because every guy I know here all say they go bare back.True and I get that, if they are going bareback with me I'm sure its with everyone, well maybe not everyone as some guys insist on a condom. At least though you found out Manila is getting tougher and tougher to find condom free girls. Sucks, but times are a changing I guess.
WestCoast1
07-16-25, 06:38
I didn't even know they sell them in PI I've never seen one in years of visits, are western feminist NGOs shipping them in?The biggest name brand here is Durex. The brand name Durex is synonymous with 'condom'. In the convenience store with your girl in line to check out, she might say "Should we get some Durex?" You ignore her, don't ask the clerk for some Durex, and seed her BB that very evening. She'll probably never mention it again.
FuriousGeorge
07-16-25, 07:13
Yup, can confirm. A few years ago when I used to stop in Makati before AC a barfine and I stopped at a 7-11 on the way to the hotel for some small nonsense that she wanted and she asked it we needed to get some condoms too. Nope, not necessary, I said, and they were never mentioned again. That's why we go to this fine country.
The biggest name brand here is Durex. The brand name Durex is synonymous with 'condom'. In the convenience store with your girl in line to check out, she might say "Should we get some Durex?" You ignore her, don't ask the clerk for some Durex, and seed her BB that very evening. She'll probably never mention it again.
I can see why men who have sex with prostitutes are a high risk group. Not so much thinking with the small head, as not thinking at all. I was going tio post rates to STI links in Angeles but they are well known, The place is a petri dish of diseases. A little self reflection might be in order.
I'm dropping by Asia for 4 weeks now. Mainly patt. Do you people think a week or two in Angeles is worth it? And if so, why?
I've been to both Angeles and Pattaya in the past, so I know the places. But question is mainly if the Koreans are still ruining the market as they were about 10 years ago, hijacking all the hottest girls for themselves. And how good it is now compared to 10 years ago in terms of number of girls as well as prices.
Pattaya seems very competitive still as long as I just play it smart and stay the hell away from walking street. Has Red Street gone the same way as Pattaya walking street?
As none Koreans we need to start a forum or have a web site where we can list all the bars we've been turned down because we are not Korean and then all of us agree to boycott the bar and let the owners know NO none Korean are going to enter and spend money in their bar until they end their racist practices.Why do guys insist on going where they aren't welcome? Or trying to change the world and bring back the good old days?
My solution is much simpler: don't even get on the bus. Stay in Manila. All the 5 K pussy a guy could need, available 24/7 to any white guy that asks.
I simply don't understand why guys continue to flog the same dead horse, expect different results and then complain about it.
Sure, if you're THAT guy with the Game, Cash or Contacts to have a good time, then live it up but why anyone else would go is beyond me.
Enjoy. G.
I can see why men who have sex with prostitutes are a high risk group. Not so much thinking with the small head, as not thinking at all. I was going tio post rates to STI links in Angeles but they are well known, The place is a petri dish of diseases. A little self reflection might be in order.Take your self-righteousness to a different forum, Jarango.
FFlintstone69
07-16-25, 23:59
I only spent one day in Manila this year but spent a fair amount of time there last year at this time and had a lot of push back from the girls about going Bare Back had several refused so took a pass on them. This year arrived in Manila very late went to LA Cafe picked up a girl who was a sister to another girl I seen several times last year. She was initially refusing to go bare back but told her, her sister always went bare back with me, and she hesitantly agreed to go bare back. I think Manila is changing and insisting upon condom use now. Have been in Angeles since May 3rd have not bar fined in about a month now as I have a long list of bar girls who come see me outside of the bar. But during the first month I had no problem getting bar girls to go bare back. I may bar fine new girls again next week and see if there is any change in the atmosphere about going bare back from bar girls. My concern is this general reluctance and opposition in Manila of girls to go bare back will spread to the Angeles City girls.
Funny, every time I ask one of my girls if they go bare back with all of their customers every one of them to a girl says "Oh no only with you" which is 100% a lie because every guy I know here all say they go bare back.Does anyone know how to start a WhatsApp group?
To share the names of hotels bars and restos to boycott.
May I suggest going upstream a bit and don't buy anything made by them.
That just gives them money that feeds the AC problems of rascism you point out.
Don't buy anything Samsung LG Kia Hyundai don't use Asiana and never visit SK.
I remember reading recently a UN report that said racism in SK.
Is the most severe anywhere.
Old And Ugly
07-17-25, 07:53
I'm dropping by Asia for 4 weeks now. Mainly patt. Do you people think a week or two in Angeles is worth it? And if so, why?
I've been to both Angeles and Pattaya in the past, so I know the places. But question is mainly if the Koreans are still ruining the market as they were about 10 years ago, hijacking all the hottest girls for themselves. And how good it is now compared to 10 years ago in terms of number of girls as well as prices.
Pattaya seems very competitive still as long as I just play it smart and stay the hell away from walking street. Has Red Street gone the same way as Pattaya walking street?Pattaya = metered fun.
AC = GFE.
Chris Long
07-17-25, 08:43
Went into Skyfall today around 3 pm asked about two who were fairly cute and was told they only go with Koreans, and both turned their nose up at me. They kept trying to push a 19-year-old off on me who wasn't bad being 19 is always a plus. She was smiling friendly and definitely wanted to go. Can I get a decent girl in the Korean bars, absolutely 100% I can get a decent girl in any Korean bar can I get the top shelf girls who are reserved for Koreans absolutely not.
I took a pass on the 19-year-old in Skyfall she wasn't bad but just paid for the drink and left. I don't want to set the precedent that if the top tear Korean girls won't go with me, I will always take a lesser girl. I walked out to set the precedent that If I don't get what I want I leave and don't spend any money. On a side note, I always travel with 20,000 1,000 pesos in my pocket. When I don't get what I want I take the wad out and fumble through it like I'm looking for the exact amount to let everyone see the money and to let them know this money is walking out the door unless it gets what it wants.
Another side note (I see this a lot in a lot of bar) a group of Koreans walked in while I was there, they stood didn't take a seat and looked at the girls and walked out. Something I might start doing in the Korean bars, I am usually polite and buy a drink to be nice guy, but you know what happens to nice guys.
Chris Long
07-17-25, 16:38
In a Kbar as soon as you walk in a manager / supervisor / momoson sits next to you and starts pointing girls out to you. If you are none Korean, they never point out the top shelf ones to you and if you ask about them, they tell you she doesn't go with white guys. But will try to push the be team or even the see team off on you. Walked past Skyfall again a little before 6 pm. And was called in by the Korean staff out front so decided to go in. Night shift starts at five pm the place was crowded I was the only white guy there everyone else was Korean. They have three rows of seats the middle and top rows were all full, so I sat in the first row. Found the quality to be just ok no stunners but a few decent ones. The best ones were probably already taken by 6 pm. All the girl's attention was on the two rows behind me none showed any attention to me a Korean guy came in and set in the first row next to me and the smiles and attention went to him. Initially no one came up to me to help me pick out a girl but eventually a manager did. He pointed to a cute little 19-year-old who at first did not seem pleased about being pointed out. I decided I would buy her a drink and just talk with her at the table she was more than willing to bar fine she was in the top tier of what was available, there were no stunners left but some cute girls and she was in that category. Was not planning to bar fine but decided ok Ill bar fine her. Nice girl in the room she claimed her first white guy but who knows.
TravelingMan3
07-17-25, 17:55
Pattaya = metered fun.
AC = GFE.That's because your old and ugly there is plenty of GFE in Pattaya. AC sucks for the most part. The top chicks are gone early it's a small scene it's not worth a trip if you have limited time.
Went into Skyfall today around 3 pm asked about two who were fairly cute and was told they only go with Koreans, and both turned their nose up at me. They kept trying to push a 19-year-old off on me who wasn't bad being 19 is always a plus. She was smiling friendly and definitely wanted to go. Can I get a decent girl in the Korean bars, absolutely 100% I can get a decent girl in any Korean bar can I get the top shelf girls who are reserved for Koreans absolutely not.
I took a pass on the 19-year-old in Skyfall she wasn't bad but just paid for the drink and left. I don't want to set the precedent that if the top tear Korean girls won't go with me, I will always take a lesser girl. I walked out to set the precedent that If I don't get what I want I leave and don't spend any money. On a side note, I always travel with 20,000 1,000 pesos in my pocket. When I don't get what I want I take the wad out and fumble through it like I'm looking for the exact amount to let everyone see the money and to let them know this money is walking out the door unless it gets what it wants.
Another side note (I see this a lot in a lot of bar) a group of Koreans walked in while I was there, they stood didn't take a seat and looked at the girls and walked out. Something I might start doing in the Korean bars, I am usually polite and buy a drink to be nice guy, but you know what happens to nice guys.You really showed them! IMHO you can flash them your wad of cash all you want but the thicker Korean wad is doing the talking. Why even get bent out of shape over being #2? Personally if there are acceptable girls available fine, I am here to monger not to massage my ego.
Does anyone know how to start a WhatsApp group?
To share the names of hotels bars and restos to boycott.
May I suggest going upstream a bit and don't buy anything made by them.
That just gives them money that feeds the AC problems of rascism you point out.
Don't buy anything Samsung LG Kia Hyundai don't use Asiana and never visit SK.
I remember reading recently a UN report that said racism in SK.
Is the most severe anywhere.A boycott is a childish joke. Let's face it, you are not important enough anymore. But there are plenty of good looking ones available. Let's move on from these.
Old And Ugly
07-18-25, 07:13
That's because your old and ugly there is plenty of GFE in Pattaya. AC sucks for the most part. The top chicks are gone early it's a small scene it's not worth a trip if you have limited time.I take it as a joke, I said it before: if I was any younger I wouldn't need to come to the end of the world to pay for it, but if you're young and handsome, and you're really thinking that they give a fuck about your looks while you're traveling to the other side of the world to pay someone to go to bed with you, I suggest you take a step back and think about the reasons why you're here instead of fucking for free at home like normal young handsome guys like you do.
Also by reading the Pattaya reports it appears that all of them are originating from old and ugly guys, or you don't really know what GFE means, for sure is not one hour of rushed fun in the back room on a filthy bed used by other 10 guys before you, with a rubber on while watching the clock, kissing you 10 minutes after she swallowed a load from the previous handsome guy.
Also by reading the Pattaya reports it appears that all of them are originating from old and ugly guys, or you don't really know what GFE means, for sure is not one hour of rushed fun in the back room on a filthy bed used by other 10 guys before you, with a rubber on while watching the clock, kissing you 10 minutes after she swallowed a load from the previous handsome guy.Looks like you didn't read all of the Pattaya reports. It always amazes me when people think that they know what a place is like after only one short visit.
Old And Ugly
07-18-25, 12:38
Looks like you didn't read all of the Pattaya reports. It always amazes me when people think that they know what a place is like after only one short visit.Almost 2 months in the beginning of this year, and one week in June, 3 times last year, and I don't know how many times the years before, and this year is not over yet. The rest of the time in SEA mainly in PH, and I used to be married to one. So I don't know in what time frame I belong, short, or long, but from my limited understanding of all the recent Pattaya reports, and my hands on experience from just 2 weeks ago is just what I described earlier "one hour of rushed fun in the back room on a filthy bed used by other 10 guys before you, with a rubber on while watching the clock, kissing you 10 minutes after she swallowed a load from the previous handsome guy". What part is inaccurate?
Personally I didn't partake in any of that, because it's not my style, I opted for TF and takeout, when possible.
The tendency now is to make you cum (or not) and wham, bam, thank you ma'am. This can best be seen in Okubo Park Tokyo where hundreds of barely legals hang around and do the dirty deed for an hour (minus this and that), whereas it used to be the two or three hours love hotels were geared for. They will now bonk foreigners as they can be rinsed for bigger pay outs. Changing times but not improvement. Of course, Japan is the home of automatic efficiency and rumours about egg timers used to be rife many years ago (you had to cum before the 3 minute egg timer popped). There is one video I meant to link through of a young lady refusing maybe 6 different guys.
Guys think they can get the old friendly family grocery service in this modern age, They cannot unless they are very lucky and get a newbie or some such.
Pattaya and Angels both started as places for Gis to spresd theuir sexual diseases and the women were happy with that, as the Gis spent like, er drunken sailors, and were up for all night partying.
As regads asking young ladies if they will bonk for money, there are young simps doing that for clicks on youtube,. Why they do not get dusted up, I do not know but maybe the women they ask are as dumb.
You might get luicky and get an odd lady giving a good value for money service but it is all transactionary, judt as it is with your local halal butcher.
I used to be married to one. So I don't know in what time frame I belong, short, or long, but from my limited understanding of all the recent Pattaya reports, and my hands on experience from just 2 weeks ago is just what I described earlier "one hour of rushed fun in the back room on a filthy bed used by other 10 guys before you, with a rubber on while watching the clock, kissing you 10 minutes after she swallowed a load from the previous handsome guy". What part is inaccurate?.
Chris Long
07-18-25, 15:45
XS now has a group called Dream girls which is really just many of the black tap girls in white dresses, bar fine for Dream Girls is 7 k.
Expat American
07-18-25, 17:34
On a side note, I always travel with 20,000 1,000 pesos in my pocket. When I don't get what I want I take the wad out and fumble through it like I'm looking for the exact amount to let everyone see the money and to let them know this money is walking out the door unless it gets what it wants.
Another side note (I see this a lot in a lot of bar) a group of Koreans walked in while I was there, they stood didn't take a seat and looked at the girls and walked out. Something I might start doing in the Korean bars, I am usually polite and buy a drink to be nice guy, but you know what happens to nice guys.So you want to impress with 20 k Pesos that you were not spending in the bar? Meanwhile Koreans are making it rain.
Guys think they can get the old friendly family grocery service in this modern age, They cannot unless they are very lucky and get a newbie or some such.
Pattaya and Angels both started as places for Gis to spresd theuir sexual diseases and the women were happy with that, as the Gis spent like, er drunken sailors, and were up for all night partying.
To be fair, guys need to accept some of the blame too. The focus now is on hit and run short time encounters rather than fun times
I can't remember the last time I read of a report of guy (s) going out clubbing or having a good time for the evening and taking girls along for the ride. Now it's all about grabbing a ST and turning her out when the deed is done.
I'm not a raging feminist or apologist for hookers but if they are being tested as cum buckets, then it's not surprising that they treat us as cash cows in return.
Enjoy. G.
Old And Ugly
07-18-25, 22:50
..................... I always travel with 20,000 1,000 pesos in my pocket. When I don't get what I want I take the wad out and fumble through it like I'm looking for the exact amount to let everyone see the money and to let them know this money is walking out the door unless it gets what it wants...........I think this is a brilliant idea, and the only way to take back AC.
We don't usualy do that, but koreans do, also they do the idiotic money rain, and for the simple minded BGs it worked like a mind conditioning program (maybe that's what it is) so all Ks are viewed as rich, ready to be milked for money.
When rejected, even if it seem uncivilized, we all should flash our stash on the way out, it may work miracles after a while, when they will start realizing that our money is the same as the K money.
I think this is a brilliant idea, and the only way to take back AC.
We don't usualy do that, but koreans do, also they do the idiotic money rain, and for the simple minded BGs it worked like a mind conditioning program (maybe that's what it is) so all Ks are viewed as rich, ready to be milked for money.
When rejected, even if it seem uncivilized, we all should flash our stash on the way out, it may work miracles after a while, when they will start realizing that our money is the same as the K money.Just goes to show that pussy really does warp the male brain.
First we had boycotting bars that don't want us there any way.
Second, refusing to buy a few TVs so that multi billion dollar companies can convince money launderers to accept our business.
Now we have making it rain and flashing the cash to protest rising prices.
Just to cap it off, I read we are doing this for access to 7 k barfines from girls who will likely insist on a capped and perfunctory session before doing a one shot runner.
As I said, I'll stay with where I'm welcome.
Enjoy. G.
FFlintstone69
07-19-25, 06:49
A boycott is a childish joke. Let's face it, you are not important enough anymore. But there are plenty of good looking ones available. Let's move on from these.We are not important enough? Funny how you're so opposed to the idea.
If we and our money werent important to them they wouldn't let us in period, I'm guessing they could do that legally.
So why then do they let whitey in, Ill tell you why, to help their bottom line every Westerner that comes in and buys drinks.
Helps keep them afloat, how often do Kbars open and close, all the time, why? Because they need every peso they can get to.
Have a shot of making it, and the chump that comes in and takes the 2nd tier or 3rd tier stage fillers helps even more.
They make a bunch of pesos and also get a nice laugh when he leaves.
Lets move on from these? Is English you native language, if not are you from Seoul by any chance.
Are you also Napa?
FFlintstone69
07-19-25, 07:07
Just goes to show that pussy really does warp the male brain.
First we had boycotting bars that don't want us there any way.
Second, refusing to buy a few TVs so that multi billion dollar companies can convince money launderers to accept our business.
Now we have making it rain and flashing the cash to protest rising prices.
Just to cap it off, I read we are doing this for access to 7 k barfines from girls who will likely insist on a capped and perfunctory session before doing a one shot runner.
As I said, I'll stay with where I'm welcome.
Enjoy. G.You don't think boycotting is a good idea, what would you suggest, all westerners go in there and buy 20 drinks and leave.
Just to help them be as profitable as possible, Do you know the store Target in USA it is having issues with boycotts as are many companies.
It would be much much easier to effect change on a small AC bar then say Target, and yet they are still being seriously hurt.
You don't think not being K products is a good idea either, WOW how do you not think depriving them of your money (if even only for principle) is a good idea.
Sony used to be #1 until some people starting buying other brands, that's how change starts and happens.
Heraclitus once stated "Change is the only constant".
And a famous Indian once said "Be the Change. ".
That's my personal Mantra.
I think it should be everyones.
Your posts are usually pretty good.
I'm guessing someone hacked your acct with this post.
Old And Ugly
07-19-25, 08:53
Just goes to show that pussy really does warp the male brain.
First we had boycotting bars that don't want us there any way.
Second, refusing to buy a few TVs so that multi billion dollar companies can convince money launderers to accept our business.
Now we have making it rain and flashing the cash to protest rising prices.
Just to cap it off, I read we are doing this for access to 7 k barfines from girls who will likely insist on a capped and perfunctory session before doing a one shot runner.
As I said, I'll stay with where I'm welcome.
Enjoy. G.If the trend continues, soon we're not going to be welcome anywhere.
And we're not raining cash, that's the stupidest thing I ever seen, just flashing it, not to protest, but to show the girls, that we have it too, because that's the only way a girl in her 20's with a mind of a 10 year old will understand it. Most of us are used to mind our own business when it comes to finances, and not be too flashy about it even if we are better off than the Ks, but GDP and world economics is as foreign to a BG as greek is to us. We have to use adaptive tactics.
I do have stuff going on in other places, on multiple levels, all at once, but from time to time I enjoy the thrill of live shopping in a bar, and I hate to see that going away.
I adapted to the 5 K BF, mainly because of convenience, thus I still shocked by it, and it's not a daily thing, but 7 K in PH where otherwise they make that in a month of hard work, is ridiculous.
(don't believe the bullshit online statistics, in province where most people are living, a 5 K / month job if you can find it, is the norm, I'm experiencing that all around me, first hand.).
I can't remember the last time I read of a report of guy (s) going out clubbing or having a good time for the evening and taking girls along for the ride. Now it's all about grabbing a ST and turning her out when the deed is done. Enjoy. G.Did that last night G and got absolutely drenched in the process. Great night though. Just draw the line at listening to bad karaoke.
_ Phil.
Almost 2 months in the beginning of this year, and one week in June, 3 times last year, and I don't know how many times the years before, and this year is not over yet. The rest of the time in SEA mainly in PH, and I used to be married to one. So I don't know in what time frame I belong, short, or long, but from my limited understanding of all the recent Pattaya reports, and my hands on experience from just 2 weeks ago is just what I described earlier "one hour of rushed fun in the back room on a filthy bed used by other 10 guys before you, with a rubber on while watching the clock, kissing you 10 minutes after she swallowed a load from the previous handsome guy". What part is inaccurate?
Personally I didn't partake in any of that, because it's not my style, I opted for TF and takeout, when possible.First of all my apologies. I thought it was your first time in Pattaya, because I got this impression from your posts when you were there.
Nevertheless what you describe as "one hour of rushed fun in the back room. " etc.., does only apply to Soi 6. And maybe also to the blow job bars and gentlemen clubs. However, as you know very well, there are many other options in Pattaya, and quite a lot (if not most) punters take their girls to the comfort and clean environment of their hotel room. It's possible that the recent Pattaya reports that you read focused on Soi 6, but that's just a coincidence.
Furthermore, as already has been said by me and other board members, CFS is not standard in Pattaya. Also not in Soi 6. On the contrary, bareback is widely available. Some people even claim that it's (almost) standard, but I do not agree with that.
I think the mistake that you made with the girls in Soi 6, was that you asked them for BBFS beforehand and in the bar, surrounded by other girls, instead of in the room upstairs.
Chris Long
07-19-25, 10:39
Yes there are American / European / Australian owned bars. The doll house group, Doll House, Atlantis are owned by an American guy. I come every month and have been here since May 3rd. Have gone into Atlantis a few times and the quality is Always average no stunners but a few maybes. I have had the most push back on Bare Back from Atlantis girls than from any other bar have had two who were only a maybe in looks refuse to go bare back. Doll House is about the same but does have a couple of diamonds two small petite little dolls the rest are ok and mostly older mid to late 20's. The two petite little dolls in Doll House are cousins who don't get along and don't like each other. I think they are jealous of each other both have been there for over a year. A year ago, when I first met both of them, they were MAJOR Korean ONLY girls. Which I always found an abomination that an American owned bar would allow raciest Korean only girls to work there, if they only want to go with Koreans then they should go work in a Kbar. Both girls would bar fine EVERY day with a different Korean guy having known them for a year now both in my opinion are now showing the used ran through miles of getting boomed every night by a different guy both girls originally had snooty stuck-up attitudes both girls originally turned me down and had a stuck-up attitude when I first tried talking to them. Surprisingly after turning me down and having a stuck-up snooty attitude the better looking of the two started calling to me when I would walk in front of the bar. Once inside I met a waitress who is now in her early 30's, I met her ten years ago when she was a dancer and bar fined her. She told the attractive petite girl I was a nice guy, and she agreed to bar fine with me apparently, she liked me because she would send me messages every day to come in and bar fine her because I was bar fining her, her cousin agreed to bar fine with me as well. A year later I have been promoted to seeing me outside of the bar for 3 k. She told me that her and her cousin would bar fine every day with a different guy. She said at Doll House if you bar fine everyday Tuesday through Sunday your daily salary is 1 k and you get 3. 5 k from the bar fine of 5 k. If you don't bar fine every day, then your salary is 600 and 3 k from the bar fine. My girl claims she doesn't bar fine anymore but just comes and sees me I know she doesn't go into work very much anymore just comes and sees me. Her cousin who she says she does not get along with now will bar fine with anyone now but still prefers Koreans.
Loly Pop, Gecko, La Bamba, are all non-Korean owned bars. Have only gone into these bars a hand full of times have found the staff to be basically older mid 20's to mid 30's and generally only average girls. Have bar fined a couple of times out of these bars and had no problem getting them to go and getting them bare back.
Carousel I believe is owned by a German guy or at least it was. Have only gone into Carousel a hand full of times have found the staff to be basically older mid 20's to mid 30's and generally only average girls. Have bar fined a couple of times out of there and had no problem getting them to go and getting them bare back.
Masquerades I believe is a none-Korean owned bar have only gone in a couple of times and neither time did I ever see anyone worth bar fining.
Avalone, I believe is a none-Korean owned bar have gone in a few times have bar fined from there a few times have found a few decent looking girls in there. Have had no problem getting them to go and getting them bare back.
Owl Nest I believe is a none-Korean owned bar have only gone in a couple times and neither time did I see anyone worth bar fining.
Q Bar I believe is a non-Korean owned bar have gone in a couple times neither time was it a good experience. Not sure what it is about me but neither time did they seem to like me the quality was not that high a couple of decent looking girls, but I was always ignored in there and turned down so after two tries never went back.
Lucifer I believe is a none-Korean owned bar have had some good success in there a few decent looking girls but had two Really attractive stand out 18-year-olds. Was able to easily get both of them to bar fine with me bare back. Both come see me outside of the bar for 3 k but the two are frenemies at best and really don't like each other and get an attitude if they find out I am seeing the other one.
Champaign, I believe is a non-Korean owned bar. Have not been in for over a year, basically older mid 20's to mid 30's and generally only average girls. A year ago, tried talking to an attractive 18-year-old and she was so rude to me that I never went back into the bar.
Shooters I believe is a none-Korean bar have only gone in a few times have found the staff to be basically older mid 20's to mid 30's and generally only average girls. Have bar fined a couple of times out of there and had no problem getting them to go and getting them bare back.
Miekos which is on the street behind walking street is owned by an American military vet. Its kind of a pool hall / gogo bar have gone in a few times and the girls were always very friendly but never seen anyone worth bar fining.
Dragon bar at the McDonalds end of walking street is owned by the same guy have gone in a total of three times and all three times was turned down rudely by the girl I wanted. All bars on that end of walking street are Korean only bars, Casino, Auru Korean owned bars and despite being owned by an American veteran Dragon is that way as well. When walking in front of the other two named bars it is very obvious, they don't even want you in there.
XS I believe is a none-Korean owned bar have had a lot of success in XS getting whatever girl I wanted and getting them to go bare back have three I see on a regular basis outside of the bar for 3 k know two of the mamasans who always get me the girl I want.
Night witch next to Kokomo's I believe is a non-Korean bar have only gone in a couple of times and found the quality to be sub five girls that would have to pay me to boom boom them.
On fields I believe Night Moves and Insomnia are both owned by the same guy a Brit. Have found a couple of diamonds in the two bars and had no problem bar fining them and getting them to go bare back but basically, they are older mid 20's to mid 30's and generally only average girls. Have one who I would consider a 9 out of 10 door girl who sees me outside of the bar for 3 k.
Off the top of my head these are the none-Korean owned bars, there may be a few more that are skipping my mind right now. Not sure about perimeter road I believe a few of those bars are none-Korean have not been down there for quite a while as the talent was always sub five. Girls that would have to pay me to boom boom them.
Chris Long
07-19-25, 13:10
Heavy rain in Angeles two days in a row. Started raining yesterday around five pm and continued until after 3: am very heavy to slowing down and then heavy again. Started raining today around 4: pm and is still raining at 8: pm heavy to slowing down to heavy again. Have had two orange rain warnings on my phone today.
This might sem a stupid quesiton but here goes. Because of my failing libido, I am thinking of buying cialis / viagra in Mervury Pharmacy wothout a prescriptin when I return in 6 or so week's time. But there is my question.
1. Many pharmacies give this stuff out without a prescription.
2. Walking / Red St is ful of guys selling real or fake stimulants. Either way, as they do not ask for a prescriotion, why are they not arrested so as to stop horny mongers ending up on a slab?
This might sem a stupid quesiton but here goes. Because of my failing libido, I am thinking of buying cialis / viagra in Mervury Pharmacy wothout a prescriptin when I return in 6 or so week's time. But there is my question.
1. Many pharmacies give this stuff out without a prescription.
2. Walking / Red St is ful of guys selling real or fake stimulants. Either way, as they do not ask for a prescriotion, why are they not arrested so as to stop horny mongers ending up on a slab?Hi J,
Can't answer all your questions but_.
I had a bit of a heart issue a couple of years ago at 50 (nothing serious, just irregular beat) and I discussed vitamin V with my doctor in Australia.
She's a hot South African and you can discuss anything with her.
She told me, "Never buy it off the street. I'll give you multiple prescriptions before you travel. ".
She even tells me what heart medication not to take when using the V. Ie: Isosorbide mononitrate.
I'd say Mercury Drug is your better bet.
Others, no doubt, will have more info for you.
Just my experience_ Phil.
Mr Enternational
07-20-25, 15:03
Because of my failing libido, I am thinking of buying cialis / viagraErectile dysfunction medication has nothing to do with libido. That is like saying because I do not know how to drive, then I am thinking about buying a dog.
Walking / Red St is ful of guys selling real or fake stimulants. Either way, as they do not ask for a prescriotion, why are they not arrested so as to stop horny mongers ending up on a slab?People need the government to protect them from doing dumb shit? If you are the type to buy medicine off the street then chances are that dumb shit is going to eventually catch up with you anyway. No need to invoke the government to prolong it.
She told me, "Never buy it off the street. I'll give you multiple prescriptions before you travel. ".
If J is still at home, this is he beat way.
Last trip, I started to run out of steam and investigated sourcing Vitamin see. I found it far more expensive than back home and not all pharmacies had the stock and strength that I wanted. Then the whole purity and safety is also a factor.
There is no way I would buy a pack off a random shady guy on the street. Just get a couple of months' worth before leaving.
G.
The guys selling viagra / cialis on the street are breaking the law and are not asking for or qualified to examine prescriptions. I was wofnering why the authorites do not arrest them.
Goferring's comment on pharma prices is interesting and it is one I have heard before. But pharma is a huge industry in the Phils, so you would imagine cheaper prices especially for generics.
FFlintstone69
07-20-25, 20:23
Erectile dysfunction medication has nothing to do with libido. That is like saying because I do not know how to drive, then I am thinking about buying a dog.
People need the government to protect them from doing dumb shit? If you are the type to buy medicine off the street then chances are that dumb shit is going to eventually catch up with you anyway. No need to invoke the government to prolong it.Erectile dysfunction medication has nothing to do with libido.
I will speak for myself but if I take a pill and my crotch starts pulsating, I'm now very hungry for some action even if I didn't want any 30 minutes earlier.
To the point where if there isn't a suitable vagina nearby I will feel the need to jerk off instead.
The guys selling viagra / cialis on the street are breaking the law and are not asking for or qualified to examine prescriptions. I was wofnering why the authorites do not arrest them.
Goferring's comment on pharma prices is interesting and it is one I have heard before. But pharma is a huge industry in the Phils, so you would imagine cheaper prices especially for generics.Prostitution is also illegal but no one gets arrested for the same reasons: kickbacks and lack of political will to shut it down.
Black market anything is typically more expensive than legitimately sourced. Also, Meds in the Philippines are normally unsubsidised where as many countries, mine included, can provide large subsidies taking the end users' cost down to well below the cost to manufacture.
Cheers. G.
WestCoast1
07-20-25, 23:34
Prostitution is also illegal but no one gets arrested for the same reasons: kickbacks and lack of political will to shut it down.
Black market anything is typically more expensive than legitimately sourced. Also, Meds in the Philippines are normally unsubsidised where as many countries, mine included, can provide large subsidies taking the end users' cost down to well below the cost to manufacture.
Cheers. G.Went to my home country doc early last year and asked for a vitamin see prescription (asked for 10 pills). He wrote it for 20 pills (20 MG) and sent me on my way. Took it to a Walgreen's Pharmacy and was quoted $17/ pill (generic). That's $340 USD total. I asked if I could get just 5 pills for $85, and was told that it must be filled for the full amount. Walked out and drove to a CVS pharmacy, and got a similar quoted price and also told had to fill the entire 20 pills prescribed. Walked, and went to Rite-Aid, same info. Then to a smaller mom / pop pharmacy, similar story.
Walked, landed in Manila, took it to Mercury and asked for generic. Quoted just over $1 USD per pill, in any quantity. Purchased the entire 20-pill lot at Mercury. Even better, the pharmacy handed me back the prescription paper after the transaction. When the pills ran out, I used it to refill in Phils smaller pill amounts (5, or 10 at a time) at will. Its the gift that keeps on giving. Sometimes the local pharmacist in Phils writes a '5' or '10' on the prescription and they hand it back. Nobody seems to care here. No pharmacist has confiscated my vitamin script.
OTOH. I have purchased numerous 7-packs of Kamagra, both from Shopee and on the streets of Burgos and AC. Have also purchased street pills. While the pills have on occasion been a bust (complete failure, all the pills in a blister-pack), the K jelly has never been a bust. I don't advocate buying on the street, but considering so many mongers hit AC or Burgos for point / shoot right-now action and COMPLETELY FORGOT (dunce cap) to get their meds at home prior to their trip, street stuff is one possible right-now alternative. Also doctor's visits for a quick script in Phils are dirt cheap ($20-$40).
Mr Enternational
07-21-25, 00:19
The guys selling viagra / cialis on the street are breaking the law and are not asking for or qualified to examine prescriptions. I was wofnering why the authorites do not arrest them..It has been said before that the guys out selling that stuff on the street are actually doing it on behest of an organized crime syndicate, not just out freelancing on their own.
FuriousGeorge
07-21-25, 01:50
Alldaychemist dot com. Thank me later.
As for forgetting your meds prior to arriving, sheesh that's amateur hour. That being said my last visit I had two giant bottles of Astroglide that I somehow managed to not put in my bag. Terror when I was unpacking in AC. After a week of using the garbage they had available at the pharmacy, I walked in the the Love Shop on Teodoro. And after perusing their selection of bad lubes and looking dejected, the lady proprietor says "Astroglide?" and pulled some out from behind the counter. Life saver.
Walked, landed in Manila, took it to Mercury and asked for generic. Quoted just over $1 USD per pill, in any quantity..Is that any Mercury? I was quoted 900 and something* at most pharmacies in Davao. Some wouldn't even talk to me without a script.
G.
Per 20 MG tab.
WestCoast1
07-21-25, 08:13
Is that any Mercury? The newest Mercury on Makati Ave, between Jupiter and Kalayaan streets. Across the street from Traveler's Inn. Didn't bother going elsewhere at that price, just jumped on it.
I was quoted 900 and something* at most pharmacies in Davao. Some wouldn't even talk to me without a script.I had my home country doc's script in hand. She had both branded and generic. I asked for generic.
Per 20 MG tab.Yes 20 MG.
Also recall my posts last year of getting generic V at the same Mercury for p120/ pill for 100 MG. I posted a pic of the receipt at the time. This year I was quoted p240 per pill at the same Mercury (I didn't purchase at that higher price). Guessing that you are being hit with the branded (Eli Lilly) pills?
I found it far more expensive than back home and not all pharmacies had the stock and strength that I wanted. Then the whole purity and safety is also a factor.
There is no way I would buy a pack off a random shady guy on the street. Just get a couple of months' worth before leaving. G.I'd just add G.
That I feel safer knowing the stuff I'm taking from home is prescribed by my doc who knows me and my heart history.
If guys are buying random drugs on the street because they appear to be cheaper, then consider the price of the bar fines, LD's and tips you're now paying and getting ripped off, left, right and center.
_Phil.
Expat American
07-21-25, 16:15
I think this is a brilliant idea, and the only way to take back AC.
We don't usualy do that, but koreans do, also they do the idiotic money rain, and for the simple minded BGs it worked like a mind conditioning program (maybe that's what it is) so all Ks are viewed as rich, ready to be milked for money.
When rejected, even if it seem uncivilized, we all should flash our stash on the way out, it may work miracles after a while, when they will start realizing that our money is the same as the K money.Nobody cares how much money you have. They only care how much you spend. So go into a bar, make it rain the 1000 P notes and then see if you get the girls attention or not. Or call six girls down and buy them double shots. But flexing a wad of bills that you have no intention of spending is the ultimate cringe move.
Old And Ugly
07-21-25, 23:30
Nobody cares how much money you have. They only care how much you spend. So go into a bar, make it rain the 1000 P notes and then see if you get the girls attention or not. Or call six girls down and buy them double shots. But flexing a wad of bills that you have no intention of spending is the ultimate cringe move.Even if I had "easy money" I wouldn't throw it away just to impress some hookers, and also cannot do 6 at once, so no double shots for more than 2, and eventually the waitress. The wad of bills was supposed to be spent on the one that refused the BF, so later when she goes home empty handed, she may feel stupid remembering the missing opportunity, that's the idea.
Even if I had "easy money" I wouldn't throw it away just to impress some hookers, and also cannot do 6 at once, so no double shots for more than 2, and eventually the waitress. The wad of bills was supposed to be spent on the one that refused the BF, so later when she goes home empty handed, she may feel stupid remembering the missing opportunity, that's the idea.Many guys regard drinks and tips as some form of flirting or path to better service later on. My experience has been that pinas have zero long term memory. What you are spending now is for services rendered now. It's not some prelude to what will happen in the future. Once the girl has drunk the drink she owes us nothing. That's why many girls will have a drink and then totally disappear while the guy is wondering what happened.
I'll disagree with other posters here that I regard P400 as great value for a face full of tits or a hand full of pukky. The difference is that I'm receiving both as the drink is being drunk, not expecting them later.
The one gap in my MO is the bars or girls that don't allow anything on premises. That would be reason enough to avoid them entirely or have one interview drink and either barfine or walk out.
Enjoy. G.
Chris Long
07-22-25, 10:23
Been pretty much raining constantly for the past four days. Heavy to slowing down even stopping briefly then heavy again. Been raining heavy pretty much all day today. All My bar girls are telling me it's slow in the bars. My hotel has low occupancy now.
Expat American
07-22-25, 10:53
Even if I had "easy money" I wouldn't throw it away just to impress some hookers, and also cannot do 6 at once, so no double shots for more than 2, and eventually the waitress. The wad of bills was supposed to be spent on the one that refused the BF, so later when she goes home empty handed, she may feel stupid remembering the missing opportunity, that's the idea.I wouldn't throw money around to impress hookers either. My point was that flashing money you are not spending is even less likely to impress and makes you look even more stupid. I stopped going to AC once it took more effort to pay to fuck a prostitute than woo a normal girl.
WestCoast1
07-22-25, 13:01
Been pretty much raining constantly for the past four days. Heavy to slowing down even stopping briefly then heavy again. Been raining heavy pretty much all day today. All My bar girls are telling me it's slow in the bars. My hotel has low occupancy now.Its been raining hard over most of Luzon for a week or more. Typhoon Wipha (formerly Crising when it crossed Luzon a few days ago) is now over Laos and VN. Tropical depression Dante appears to be rolling in soon to take Crising's place.
https://newsinfo.inquirer.net/2084276/wipha-former-crising-maintains-strength-while-moving-away-from-ph-landmass
https://www.msn.com/en-ph/news/national/lpa-strengthens-into-tropical-depression-dante/ar-AA1J31eH
Chris Long
07-22-25, 19:57
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8bBMFVTFIds
Spoke with the owner of Scorebirds today I have been staying at the hotel ever since it opened in 2014 and know him on enough to say Hi to. Back in the day when he had six bars he used to boom boom all the bar girls that worked in his bar. Found out why they canceled the pool party two months in a row. They no longer have a permit to hold the event, and they are trying to get a new permit. There is a new mayor and new governor and new head of the local NBI and they need to reapply and are waiting to get a new permit to hold the event.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8bBMFVTFIds
.He seeme to live out in the sticks with his GF / wife and visit Angeles to make his videos with himdelf, his GF and his Russian mate. I get his videos have an audience but I am not it, and nor do I see the point of living in Tyyphoon land just to walk around Red St making crummy videos. Maybe his routine is not that different from mine or anuone else's (his GF is ok) but Ifind it hard to see eye to eye with these expats who just seems to be waiting for The Grim Reaper. Maybe he is just in and out but his mate. Jorge, seems to live in Angele with the highlight being walking around with this guy once a week or so.
He seeme to live out in the sticks with his GF / wife and visit Angeles to make his videos with himdelf, his GF and his Russian mate. I get his videos have an audience but I am not it, and nor do I see the point of living in Tyyphoon land just to walk around Red St making crummy videos. Maybe his routine is not that different from mine or anuone else's (his GF is ok) but Ifind it hard to see eye to eye with these expats who just seems to be waiting for The Grim Reaper. Maybe he is just in and out but his mate. Jorge, seems to live in Angele with the highlight being walking around with this guy once a week or so.Most of these vloggers are rather sketchy regarding their backgrounds, and Leon is no different. However, if you listen to them long enough, they will let something slip. One time, I heard him say that the channel belongs to his GF rather to him. So, I would deduce that the reason he spends all this time making vids on his GF's channel is to support the fam instead of having to support them himself directly. I don't think he'd be spending all this time making these vids and drawing the ire of folks in and around Fields unless his purpose was financial in nature.
Chris Long
07-24-25, 10:58
Been raining almost steadily all week. My bar girls are all telling me it's been slow all week in the bars. Many have told me their bars are closing today because of the typhoon.
Mr Enternational
07-24-25, 14:24
So, I would deduce that the reason he spends all this time making vids on his GF's channel is to support the fam instead of having to support them himself directly.Sometimes people have been flagged down so much that they are banned from having their own channel. They will try to get around it by using someone else's.
Been raining almost steadily all week. My bar girls are all telling me it's been slow all week in the bars. Many have told me their bars are closing today because of the typhoon.How about a weather report for Saturday morning around 7 am? I am wondering if NLEX will be open from Manila to Angeles? Genesis bus to SM Clark more specifically.
Thanks in advance. Of course asking for a friend.
Mr Enternational
07-25-25, 06:33
Been raining almost steadily all week. My bar girls are all telling me it's been slow all week in the bars. Many have told me their bars are closing today because of the typhoon.I did not see any bars closed last night. I did notice a lot of fucking people smoking cigarettes. Outside of Viking there were like 20 chicks who work there out smoking. Don't know that I have seen so many folks smoking here before.
Stepped in Mega Dance about midnight and it was was empty. The rain finally stopped today, but they say another one is on the way. Cebu Pacific moved the time on my flight up 1 hour and sent 2 emails saying that if I wanted to reschedule it, there would be no charge.
Right now having a bite at Phillies and will get a massage before going to Clark. Seems a lot of the gays are wearing masks in hopes that someone will mistake them for a woman.
Chris Long
07-25-25, 11:24
The freelancers I know are telling me they are no longer allowed on Red Street unless they work at a bar. They are being told to stay off Red Street under threat of arrest unless they work for a bar.
I wouldn't throw money around to impress hookers either. My point was that flashing money you are not spending is even less likely to impress and makes you look even more stupid. I stopped going to AC once it took more effort to pay to fuck a prostitute than woo a normal girl.
Very true. Every other girl in the girlie bar is down for lady drinks but when you ask her out will try to cop out, she is on her period or not feeling well, whereas I had far better experience with freelancers around the nearby restaurants and casual bars without having to deal with pushy mamasans.
Old And Ugly
07-26-25, 14:24
The freelancers I know are telling me they are no longer allowed on Red Street unless they work at a bar. They are being told to stay off Red Street under threat of arrest unless they work for a bar.Maybe that's a good thing, and they will start congregating in one place only, making shopping easier.
TravelingMan3
07-27-25, 21:12
Seems a lot of the gays are wearing masks in hopes that someone will mistake them for a woman.Are there more ladyboys than usual that made you take note of this or was it just the face mask wore.
Chris Long
07-30-25, 12:10
My freelancer girls keep telling me the barangay bans them from walking on Red Street they said only girls who work at the bars are allowed to go on Red Street and they tell me the Barangay comes and chases them away from standing in front of Phillies as well unless they are inside having a drink. The excuse that is given to them is because the lady boys keep pick pocketing people. I tell them they should go inside of Mega dance and just freelance in there at night and look for customers.
Mr Enternational
07-30-25, 15:20
Are there more ladyboys than usual that made you take note of this or was it just the face mask wore.No idea what is usual because I do not pay attention to them. But they stick out like a sore thumb wearing masks when nobody else is wearing masks.
Mr Enternational
07-30-25, 15:24
My freelancer girls keep telling me the barangay bans them from walking on Red Street they said only girls who work at the bars are allowed to go on Red Street and they tell me the Barangay comes and chases them away from standing in front of Phillies as well unless they are inside having a drink.You got to stop listening to your freelancer girls. So many hookers and ladyboys standing in front of Phillies that I have to walk on the street to get past them. None of the hookers I would touch with a 10 foot pole though. What happened to the good ones?
Maybe that's a good thing, and they will start congregating in one place only, making shopping easier.Good call Ugly.
A one stop shop would make things a lot easier.
_Phil.
TravelingMan3
07-31-25, 22:36
I recently moved from Pattaya after 3 years and will be moving to the Philippines shorty. I will not be living in Angeles but thought I zip over for some weekend fun. I read the reports watch the videos and I'm just thinking if it's even worth going even though it would be a no hassle trip since I'm in country. I don't need it to be like Pattaya or as good as other places in SEA I already know it ain't that as I was last in AC in June 2024 and thought it was ok. I'm looking for the higher tier of chicks or ladyboys and I hate the online scene. I'll miss out on the hotter chicks as to get them your required to be in bar early or at opening. The ladyboys I'm sure I'll have good luck with that as there was a really hot one at Paradise last year. The ones at Phillies aren't really attractive and look like men in wigs.
A lot has been posted about lady drinks.
About a year ago I was sitting in WS bar buying a few LD for a couple girls I had know for a while. Out of respect I bought LD for a couple girls I had known and BF before. We were catching up chit chats. I had not gotten a good look at the line up before being noticed by the two girls. Both were sitting to my right. Meanwhile the guy to the left of me hailed down 3 girls and were buying them drinks and shots. One girl sat next to me between the guy and wow what a figure and firm body. Looked like the girls were getting a little drunk and loud.
The girl next to me was hot and it looked like she was going to get BF by the guy. Suddenly he bills out and I didn't see him counting money out for a BF and ups and leaves! The hot girl gets up and ready to head for the stage when I grabbed her arm and I told her I would buy her a drink. She smiled so big. I could tell she was a little tipsy and wanted to barfine tonight. In less than 5 minutes I told her I would BF her and fuck the heck out of her. All she said was Really! Let's go! What a night. She stayed LT for 3 pops.
All I can do is thank the guy for the LD and prepping her up!
Nothing wrong with LD! Especially when someone else paid for them.
I recently moved from Pattaya after 3 years and will be moving to the Philippines shorty. I will not be living in Angeles but thought I zip over for some weekend fun. I read the reports watch the videos and I'm just thinking if it's even worth going even though it would be a no hassle trip since I'm in country. I don't need it to be like Pattaya or as good as other places in SEA I already know it ain't that as I was last in AC in June 2024 and thought it was ok. I'm looking for the higher tier of chicks or ladyboys and I hate the online scene. I'll miss out on the hotter chicks as to get them your required to be in bar early or at opening. The ladyboys I'm sure I'll have good luck with that as there was a really hot one at Paradise last year. The ones at Phillies aren't really attractive and look like men in wigs.According to all the chatter here and the local resident naysayer, the short answer is NO.
My last trip was in January and I'm going back next month. I just heard that Club Stars had been raided and shut down. Damn! That was one of my favorite go-tos both in the morning shift and to peek my head in at night to see if there was new talent. Did everybody move to 123?
I'm looking for the higher tier of ...ladyboys and I hate the online scene. .. The ladyboys I'm sure I'll have good luck with that as there was a really hot one at Paradise last year. The ones at Phillies aren't really attractive and look like men in wigs.The ladyboys are men in wigs and hunting them out is against forum rules. Bring plenty of lube dfor your arse and strong mouthweash for your throat.
Mr Enternational
08-01-25, 13:15
The ladyboys are men in wigs and hunting them out is against forum rules.That was under the previous site owner. The current site owner has even had banner ads advertising them.
FuriousGeorge
08-01-25, 23:27
There are a few extremely hot LBs in AC. Not my thing but I'm also not blind. My advice would be to just get on Tinder because it's filled with them. I just wish they would open a bar for them and get them off the streets because they are very aggressive.
I recently moved from Pattaya after 3 years and will be moving to the Philippines shorty. I will not be living in Angeles but thought I zip over for some weekend fun. I read the reports watch the videos and I'm just thinking if it's even worth going even though it would be a no hassle trip since I'm in country. I don't need it to be like Pattaya or as good as other places in SEA I already know it ain't that as I was last in AC in June 2024 and thought it was ok. I'm looking for the higher tier of chicks or ladyboys and I hate the online scene. I'll miss out on the hotter chicks as to get them your required to be in bar early or at opening. The ladyboys I'm sure I'll have good luck with that as there was a really hot one at Paradise last year. The ones at Phillies aren't really attractive and look like men in wigs.
According to all the chatter here and the local resident naysayer, the short answer is NO.I'm not an AC aficionado but there are lots of hot girls posting in IG showing them and their friends partying on. Mostly in Aqua. I'm guessing that they are letting their hair down away from boyfies, sponsors or regulars in Manila.
They are stunners so Traveller can try his luck if he's got deep pockets. Bottles for the group, plus dinner, plus the girl's tip, ++++ would be eye wateringly expensive.
Be good to read a report of any success. It's way out of my normal hunting ground.
G.
I'm not an AC aficionado but there are lots of hot girls posting in IG showing them and their friends partying on. Mostly in Aqua. I'm guessing that they are letting their hair down away from boyfies, sponsors or regulars in Manila.
They are stunners so Traveller can try his luck if he's got deep pockets. Bottles for the group, plus dinner, plus the girl's tip, ++++ would be eye wateringly expensive.
Be good to read a report of any success. It's way out of my normal hunting ground.
G.I visit AC quite a bit. I have been to Aqua and have never pulled a girl from there. A friend who is a girl goes there regularly and told me there are regular hot freelancers that go to Aqua. But they demand 7-10 k. Wednesday's are free P500 drinks to single girls unaccompanied by a guy. I will meet a bunch of girls there and buy some food for them. You don't have to be a big spender there. You can tip a server there to make an approach to a girl for you to avoid any awkwardness and rejection.
I would like to hear some reports too.
Old And Ugly
08-02-25, 09:01
Even when I was young and handsome, and I was getting pussy for free, I didn't throw money around to impress girls, why do it now when I have to pay them in order to bed them? If I really want one, maybe I make an offer that exceeds the normal acquisition fee by 1-2 K, because $20 more or less doesn't make no difference to me.
If I'm going to a club and the girls are with me, already fucked, and we're having a good time I don't have a problem spending to keep the party going within decent limits, "no champagne, no caviar".
Spending lots money entertaining a group of unknown girls that you'll have to pay for their services, and may or may not go with you later, it doesn't fit well in AC where everything is for sale, and first timers freebies are mostly inexistent, unless you have a thing going on already, or you're a handsome looking young filipino guy.
This ties up to the Boracay question: I been there many times with paid and non paid girls, never had a problem, and I must say that many times the experience with the paid companionship was crazier, with the girls doing wild things to each other on the dance floor under the envious looks of the patrons, jumping in the sea naked, being arrested, etc. (few hundred peso to the police solved the problem).
In both cases with paid or non paid arm candy, the expenses were about the same, they don't fancy lobster or oysters, and adobo, sisig, lechon and rice seems to be the norm, with the sinigang being the all time favorite. Fancy looking cocktails are cheap, and get them drunk fast. Hotel rooms cost the same, with or without them, and if you plan ahead the airfare is dirt cheap also. Buy them a few keychains for their friends, and a 500 P dress, and you'll have giggling, happy young company for your entire stay in a beautiful exotic surrounding.
Went to AC where I've been staying for a few days. I have to say, AC suprised me. These bars are full of some of the most listless, lazy people I have ever seen in a go-go bar. The girls just stand there on stage, playing on their phones or stareing dully at the wall. Mamas all sit around a table and BS. Waitstaff do the same. I actually had to track a Mama down when I wanted to buy a girl a drink. On the plus side, I guess, they really don't push LD on you like MNL or BKK. .
Took a couple of girls from Champaign the first night, Daisy and May (I'm sure there is a joke in there somewhere). Mama said 5 K each, and they longtime until breakfast tomorow. Took them back to the room, and they were fun to play with. But oddly for Phils, they insisted on condoms, and changing the condom when changing girls. After a couple of hours of fucking, they wanted to get dinner and drinks. I was fine with that, and spent a few hours having them show me the good places. Went back to the room, and they started some bullshit: "If you want us to say longer, you have to pay us more". LOL, hell no. Showed them right out the door, sad pickacu faces and all. Decided to avoid Champaign.
Next night, I went to a bar right next-door to Jbar at the end of Walking. Sorry, can't remember the name, but it is a new bar. I had talked to Mama on the previous nights, she was a pretty cool cat. Said they just opened the bar, and were trying to build a clientele. Told her what happened at Champaign, and she assured me her girls did not act like that. She suggested a girl named Barbie. This girl was, I shit you not, about 4'10 and mabye 70 lbs. Mama said she was actually 26, and her ID said the same, but damn she was small. She actually got carded by security on the way back to the hotel because they thought she was a minor. Anyway, she said she was a good girl and would stay all night, she wanted to go with me, and so on. I'm a sucker for a tiny girl, so off we went. 5 K for the night. She was still a shy type, but was willing to do what she needed to do to please me. Holy shit was this girl tight. After about two hours, her phone rang. And "oh noes! My sister is blah blah blah, I need to leave!" LOL, whatever. I waved her out the door and went to sleep. At this point, I figured this is just typical AC scheming bar girl behavior.
I went out the next night just planning on short-time, whatever the girls said. Went to Viking because it seemed to actually have a crowd and girls who moved around a little bit. I think this is a majority K-bar, but they welcomed me in. Sat down next to a Mama, and holy shit I almost BF'd her. She was older (late 30's-40's) but cute as hell and had that air about her that just made you want to bend her over the bar and have fun. After a bit of talking she pointed out the girls who liked to go with white foreigners, and recommended Yuki. Yuki (pic attached) is a 19 why / o spinner that mama said was a virgin when she came to the bar. Apparently her sister used to work the bar, and found a sponsor and Yuki is hoping to do the same. BF was 5. 5 K here. Took Yuki home, and as I stripped her, she shyly pointed to her pussy and said "Broken. I'm not a virgin anymore. " LOL, no shit sister, you work at a go-go bar. She was still very new, and I was gentle with her, and she responded well. Tiny, tight and felt amazing. Woke up a couple times during the night to fuck her again. Given the prior girls, I expected her to ditch as soon as I nutted. But this girl was the opposite, didn't want to leave. Stayed until almost 1 pm, then suggested I join her and her siblings for lunch at SM, holding my hand, cuddling against me the whole time. She finally left to go home and get ready for work. Very nice girl, if I was living here I'd put her on payroll. One more round tonight, then off to Manila for a few days before the flight home.
After about two hours, her phone rang. And "oh noes! My sister is blah blah blah, I need to leave!" LOL, whatever. I waved her out the door and went to sleep. At this point, I figured this is just typical AC scheming bar girl behavior.Not just typical AC behavior, but all over The Phils Rando.
A few weeks ago I had a similar thing happen. Sister was in a bike accident and she had to leave.
("Thank goodness for that, I thought", as I was pretty worn out.).
A day later mother was in hospital and we needed money for medication.
By the end of the week, poor old mum / mom was dead and we need money for a funeral.
What a terrible run of luck.
They all read from the same script_ Phil.
WestCoast1
08-02-25, 16:39
A day later mother was in hospital and we needed money for medication.
By the end of the week, poor old mum / mom was dead and we need money for a funeral.Lets see if the girl forgets what she told you about mum's death by next month. By then, its possible her poor old (dead) mum will be back in the hospital and need money for mom's diabetic coma (or stroke, high blood, kidney failure, or such).
If she DOES remember next month that she told you this month that mom died, then she will need money for the veterinarian for the family kalabaw's diabetic coma (or stroke, high blood, kidney failure, or such).
Locamotive
08-02-25, 23:08
Went to AC where I've been staying for a few days. I have to say, AC suprised me. These bars are full of some of the most listless, lazy people I have ever seen in a go-go bar. The girls just stand there on stage, playing on their phones or stareing dully at the wall. Mamas all sit around a table and BS. Waitstaff do the same. I actually had to track a Mama down when I wanted to buy a girl a drink. On the plus side, I guess, they really don't push LD on you like MNL or BKK. .
Took a couple of girls from Champaign the first night, Daisy and May (I'm sure there is a joke in there somewhere). Mama said 5 K each, and they longtime until breakfast tomorow. Took them back to the room, and they were fun to play with. But oddly for Phils, they insisted on condoms, and changing the condom when changing girls. After a couple of hours of fucking, they wanted to get dinner and drinks. I was fine with that, and spent a few hours having them show me the good places. Went back to the room, and they started some bullshit: "If you want us to say longer, you have to pay us more". LOL, hell no. Showed them right out the door, sad pickacu faces and all. Decided to avoid Champaign.
Next night, I went to a bar right next-door to Jbar at the end of Walking. Sorry, can't remember the name, but it is a new bar. I had talked to Mama on the previous nights, she was a pretty cool cat. Said they just opened the bar, and were trying to build a clientele. Told her what happened at Champaign, and she assured me her girls did not act like that. She suggested a girl named Barbie. This girl was, I shit you not, about 4'10 and mabye 70 lbs. Mama said she was actually 26, and her ID said the same, but damn she was small. She actually got carded by security on the way back to the hotel because they thought she was a minor. Anyway, she said she was a good girl and would stay all night, she wanted to go with me, and so on. I'm a sucker for a tiny girl, so off we went. 5 K for the night. She was still a shy type, but was willing to do what she needed to do to please me. Holy shit was this girl tight. After about two hours, her phone rang. And "oh noes! My sister is blah blah blah, I need to leave!" LOL, whatever. I waved her out the door and went to sleep. At this point, I figured this is just typical AC scheming bar girl behavior.
I went out the next night just planning on short-time, whatever the girls said. Went to Viking because it seemed to actually have a crowd and girls who moved around a little bit. I think this is a majority K-bar, but they welcomed me in. Sat down next to a Mama, and holy shit I almost BF'd her. She was older (late 30's-40's) but cute as hell and had that air about her that just made you want to bend her over the bar and have fun. After a bit of talking she pointed out the girls who liked to go with white foreigners, and recommended Yuki. Yuki (pic attached) is a 19 why / o spinner that mama said was a virgin when she came to the bar. Apparently her sister used to work the bar, and found a sponsor and Yuki is hoping to do the same. BF was 5. 5 K here. Took Yuki home, and as I stripped her, she shyly pointed to her pussy and said "Broken. I'm not a virgin anymore. " LOL, no shit sister, you work at a go-go bar. She was still very new, and I was gentle with her, and she responded well. Tiny, tight and felt amazing. Woke up a couple times during the night to fuck her again. Given the prior girls, I expected her to ditch as soon as I nutted. But this girl was the opposite, didn't want to leave. Stayed until almost 1 pm, then suggested I join her and her siblings for lunch at SM, holding my hand, cuddling against me the whole time. She finally left to go home and get ready for work. Very nice girl, if I was living here I'd put her on payroll. One more round tonight, then off to Manila for a few days before the flight home.Yep she is a cutie. I've met them like that before, young sweet with affection. Its sad really, give her about 6 months, she will be as hard and broken as the old timers and the sweetness will be gone. When I retire I'm going to pull me one of those types before she fucks every swinging dick that walks in the door. Ageed. If I lived there ID put her on payroll too.
Lets see if the girl forgets what she told you about mum's death by next month. By then, its possible her poor old (dead) mum will be back in the hospital Reserections don't come cheap.
G.
A few weeks ago I had a similar thing happen. Sister was in a bike accident and she had to leave.
("Thank goodness for that, I thought", as I was pretty worn out.).
A day later mother was in hospital and we needed money for medication.
By the end of the week, poor old mum / mom was dead and we need money for a funeral.
What a terrible run of luck.
They all read from the same script_ Phil.https://youtu.be/5yJOhsAH9MY?si=mW-18q7I7lj-biQn
Lets see if the girl forgets what she told you about mum's death by next month. By then, its possible her poor old (dead) mum will be back in the hospital and need money for mom's diabetic coma (or stroke, high blood, kidney failure, or such).
If she DOES remember next month that she told you this month that mom died, then she will need money for the veterinarian for the family kalabaw's diabetic coma (or stroke, high blood, kidney failure, or such).You guys are making me laugh. I admit I've heard variations of all these and more. Sometimes just for fun I will feign sympathy and lead them along. Well sometimes I get bored here in Negros. It aint easy bein sleazy in this retirement home for wayward foreigners I but do manage a local harem and like to travel several times a year.
Reserections don't come cheap.
G.Can't devout Filipinas get a discount?
Can't devout Filipinas get a discount?They can but who wants a second class seat to heaven for mom?
Chris Long
08-03-25, 13:06
Last night I went bar hopping with my province girl. Went to White Dragon. Nothing in there I would bar fine. Then went to the new bar bliss again nothing I would bar fine. Then went to Foxy bar two or three maybes in there nothing outstanding but a couple of maybes. Then Bacara pretty much the same group as the day before two or three maybes but nothing outstanding. Then went to geneses again nothing outstand 2 or 3 maybes. Last bar was Skyfall they were doing the nude show all were unattractive over all two or three maybes but nothing outstanding. This was all from 8 to 10 pm so the best ones were probably already gone.
Lets see if the girl forgets what she told you about mum's death by next month. By then, its possible her poor old (dead) mum will be back in the hospital and need money for mom's diabetic coma (or stroke, high blood, kidney failure, or such). If she DOES remember next month that she told you this month that mom died, then she will need money for the veterinarian for the family kalabaw's diabetic coma (or stroke, high blood, kidney failure, or such).Thanks Westie, but I'm guessing she won't remember. They never do.
"Your daughter's ill? But you've got two sons? Then why the photo's of a sick, malnourished young girl who looks like she's starving in Ethiopia".
_Phil.
Can't devout Filipinas get a discount?They sure can Moggie.
Mass on Sunday morning, taking it in every orifice by Sunday afternoon and then a discount (free) feed and trike ride home paid by yours truly, Sunday night.
Now that's what I call a bargain.
_Phil.
https://youtu.be/5yJOhsAH9MY?si=mW-18q7I7lj-biQnGreat find G.
Sums it up perfectly.
Sometimes you just have to laugh these requests off, then block them.
By the end of a trip, I'd usually have approx. 10-15 contacts on WhatsApp and by the time I board the plane home, there might be one or two left for instant action with the best athletes on the next trip.
Never have a problem starting all over again.
_Phil.
They sure can Moggie.
Mass on Sunday morning, taking it in every orifice by Sunday afternoon and then a discount (free) feed and trike ride home paid by yours truly, Sunday night.
Now that's what I call a bargain.
_Phil.This is so true. Are we fuckng the same girls?? LOL.
Last trip several girls suggested that the best way to escape long work hours or a strict mom was to get fucked senseless after church on Sunday afternoon.
Like all devout Catholic girls, most made it clear that if they made the effort to come, then it wasn't for a quicky and that's all. They expected to be fucked all afternoon until they left to go home.
Enjoy. G.
Transporter
08-03-25, 19:01
This is so true. Are we fuckng the same girls?? LOL. Last trip several girls suggested that the best way to escape long work hours or a strict mom was to get fucked senseless after church on Sunday afternoon. Like all devout Catholic girls, most made it clear that if they made the effort to come, then it wasn't for a quicky and that's all. They expected to be fucked all afternoon until they left to go home. Enjoy. G.Its been over a decade, but one of my favorites was picking up girls at quiapo on and around the church. I'm older and fatter now, but I think if you are in your 30's or 40's it should be a walk in the park.
Old And Ugly
08-05-25, 10:05
Its been over a decade, but one of my favorites was picking up girls at quiapo on and around the church. I'm older and fatter now, but I think if you are in your 30's or 40's it should be a walk in the park.A long time ago, sometime in the last millennium when I was young, I had a friend in Portland, even more perverted than myself, and following a lead he had, he became, or pretended to be a Jehovah's Witnesses cult member (or maybe was a similar one), he was going to the church, and returning from there with a bunch of young girls forced to attend church, and dress and behave unnaturally by their parents. Every Sat or Sun, I forgot what day, we were having wild short orgies after which he returned the girls to the church just in time for their ride home in the family van. It was a pleasure, and always looked forward to visit my friend in the neighboring state, and the girls were also now going and returning from the church with a smile on their face, despite the fact that were forced to dress like old ladies. So many memories, so many speed tickets.
The girls were also now going and returning from the church with a smile on their face, despite the fact that were forced to dress like old ladies. So many memories, so many speed tickets.
Its been over a decade, but one of my favorites was picking up girls at quiapo on and around the church.
This is so true. Are we fuckng the same girls?? LOL. Last trip several girls suggested that the best way to escape long work hours or a strict mom was to get fucked senseless after church on Sunday afternoon.
They sure can Moggie.
Mass on Sunday morning, taking it in every orifice by Sunday afternoon and then a discount (free) feed and trike ride home paid by yours truly, Sunday night.
Now that's what I call a bargain.
_Phil.God, bless them all _ Phil.
There are a few extremely hot LBs in AC. Not my thing but I'm also not blind. My advice would be to just get on Tinder because it's filled with them. I just wish they would open a bar for them and get them off the streets because they are very aggressive.From 2023 trip. Should have known it was too good to be true:
Old And Ugly
08-11-25, 22:00
From 2023 trip. Should have known it was too good to be true:The shoulders are too wide.
FuriousGeorge
08-13-25, 06:14
Stop it. You, I, and any other straight man would be attracted to this person. Ever watched a runway fashion show? Lotta wide shoulders. The scary part is this person putting herself in danger by trying to fool someone.
The shoulders are too wide.
Stop it. You, I, and any other straight man would be attracted to this person. Ever watched a runway fashion show? Lotta wide shoulders. The scary part is this person putting herself in danger by trying to fool someone.Looks good to me too.
Mr Enternational
08-13-25, 13:50
Stop it. You, I, and any other straight man would be attracted to this person.LOL. How are you going to say that any straight dude would be attracted to a dude with long hair and women's clothing? Not me sir.
The scary part is this person putting herself in danger by trying to fool someone.himself Because a mf dresses up like superman, there is no need for another person to play into the delusion and call him superman.
Old And Ugly
08-13-25, 20:30
Stop it. You, I, and any other straight man would be attracted to this person. Ever watched a runway fashion show? Lotta wide shoulders. The scary part is this person putting herself in danger by trying to fool someone.Nope, wide shoulder always gives them away, but I saw few with narrow shoulders, short skinny ones. Stay alert! Not my cup of tea.
I did check the Adam's apple, which wasn't visible. Also nice eyes, though you can't see in the photo posted. Also had voice part covered. Person was 21 at the time.
I do agree they should have their own bar (s), though that may be too Thailand an idea for the Philippines to be ready. I hope not.
Dunno if there's access to puberty blockers or the really controversial stuff if someone wanted to transition and had parents who'd support that and had the money to make it happen, but imagine it could produce even more realistic-looking ladyboys.
Old And Ugly
08-14-25, 05:39
I did check the Adam's apple, which wasn't visible. Also nice eyes, though you can't see in the photo posted. Also had voice part covered. Person was 21 at the time.
I do agree they should have their own bar (s), though that may be too Thailand an idea for the Philippines to be ready. I hope not.
Dunno if there's access to puberty blockers or the really controversial stuff if someone wanted to transition and had parents who'd support that and had the money to make it happen, but imagine it could produce even more realistic-looking ladyboys.You can engineer lots of features, but do only minor modifications to the bone structure, so far I think they accomplished making the feet smaller, and removing one set of ribs to make the waist small. Adam's apple may not be always visible, I'm a dude and mine doesn't show.
So the shoulder still a solid marker. There may be one or two athletic looking ladies out there, but not common in asians. At least for now we don't have to worry too much about man made pussies in the PH, TH is one step ahead, and even the thought of a closer examination scares me, is like checking a dude's asshole.
I see lots of guys intentionally hanging around with LBs, so there will be clientele for a successful LBs bar, somebody should pick up the idea and make some dough. Straight guys will visit also, because that will be good entertainment too, you can do barhopping there with your lady, and you'll be guaranteed to see a few barfights.
TravelingMan3
08-14-25, 05:55
Just want to say I'd fuck that ladyboy pictured. Any man who doesn't fuck ladyboys or at least try one or get a blowjob is in the closet. Also I'd love for a ladyboy bar in AC the ones in Pattaya are a hit me and my associates and friends are often in them.
FuriousGeorge
08-14-25, 07:01
Ok, so you looked at those pics and decided that was a guy? Are you a super savant ladyboy whisperer? Are you doing dick checks all day every day? Seems kinda gay to me if so. If someone presents as female and is attractive to me, a very straight man, I have no problem saying so. Doesn't mean I will have sex with them when I gain more information.
In this pic, the people on the top row have penises. The people on the bottom row have vaginas. Which row are you attracted to? Think carefully because you might reveal yourself as gay. Everyone relax and let people be.
LOL. How are you going to say that any straight dude would be attracted to a dude with long hair and women's clothing? Not me sir.
himself Because a mf dresses up like superman, there is no need for another person to play into the delusion and call him superman.
Old And Ugly
08-14-25, 09:39
Ok, so you looked at those pics and decided that was a guy? Are you a super savant ladyboy whisperer? Are you doing dick checks all day every day? Seems kinda gay to me if so. If someone presents as female and is attractive to me, a very straight man, I have no problem saying so. Doesn't mean I will have sex with them when I gain more information.
In this pic, the people on the top row have penises. The people on the bottom row have vaginas. Which row are you attracted to? Think carefully because you might reveal yourself as gay. Everyone relax and let people be.If I didn't turned out a fag by my age, the chances are zero for the years I have left, even if all the women vanish, I have enough very intense pleasurable memories to last forever.
The bottom row are all men to me, regardless of the previous state, about the top row I can't say nothing until I see their movements and the body from different angles, but if you say that they have dicks, then automatically become unappealing to me as a straight man, as I said, I don't want to take the chance to see up-close some dude's asshole in order to establish if has a real or manmade vagina.
About the previous pics: I didn't decided the gender based on the looks, Ploughman stated the facts, then some things became obvious.
I'm totally relaxed, and have nothing against other people's sexual choices, everybody should be free to live their lives the way they want, if they can. Just don't try to trick others into their disillusion.
Mr Enternational
08-14-25, 13:06
Any man who doesn't fuck ladyboys or at least try one or get a blowjob is in the closet.WTF. So now a guy who would not fuck a guy because he is not gay is actually gay? Are vegans actually closet meat eaters as well? Pun intended.
Mr Enternational
08-14-25, 13:33
Ok, so you looked at those pics and decided that was a guy? Are you a super savant ladyboy whisperer?No. I am just able to tell a man from a woman for some strange reason as I think most animals in the animal kingdom are able to do. (I think even blind people are able to do this. Are they transvestite whisperes?) And if by some chance I found out the "woman" is actually a man then I would not be inclined to say I might as well put my dick in your duke chute since I thought you were a female at first.
When I see a woman I think about trying to get some pussy. When you see a man dressed up as a woman it is obvious that you are not trying to get pussy well because he is a fucking man.
Mfs can build rockets to outer space but claim to not be able to tell the difference between the sexes in their own species due to a rudimentary disguise. Give me a fucking break. No problem if you want to fuck men, but do not use the lie that you can't tell he is a man; especially if you are going to fuck him anyway once you find out. LOL.
Just want to say I'd fuck that ladyboy pictured. Any man who doesn't fuck ladyboys or at least try one or get a blowjob is in the closet. Also I'd love for a ladyboy bar in AC the ones in Pattaya are a hit me and my associates and friends are often in them.
Because of the interest and with the above post as encouragement I'll finish the story, using a they pronoun even though it's awkward and am not used to it (and the LB said nothing about pronouns because that would have been a giveaway and they aren't like that in the PI anyway). It was a street FL near the road fork and I negotiated P2 K for ST. The hotel was close enough to not have to take a jeepney down Fields, so we walked (I Cheap Charlie, I know)
Almost there, some trike driver swooped in and tried to snatch their purse. They held on and some guys from the open-air bar ran to help, one knocking over his beer. It was over in a flash and the trike driver sped off empty-handed, but we were shaken. I bought the guy a replacement beer. I admit to having the mindset that I was the one that bad actors like that would target and it was the locals who knew much more about what to do and precautions to take. Had not thought it'd be the girl.
THEN, in the room, I find out it's a ladyboy. They claim to have mentioned it before but they must've muttered it and my hearing wasn't the best. First time in 31 years I'd been fooled. As mentioned, had done the Adam's apple check and of course the voice. (One on Pattaya Beach Rd. Almost did, but those were very dark lighting conditions then).
I told them it was their lucky day because I'm bi- which I've determined I am even though it took about 25 years and countless Thailand trips before trying any LBs. Before that they were always the ones right in your face, walking up to you, trying to take your wallet, or pull you into the bar at Nana Plaza or Clinton Plaza or wherever. The aggressiveness and pushiness by a few gave the rest a bad name in Thailand, and it took me a long time to consider that there could be honest ones. That said, anything was done knowing it was a LB, while in this case I was really expecting a girl.
So I said I still wanted to fuck them. That made them nervous. I think there was oral first but that never does it by itself for me. They were pretty tight, indicating not much previous mileage. Did the covered doggy and they wanted me to record with their cellphone, which would be a close-up view but one I think they wanted to share with friends. In my short experience I've found with LBs one advantage is you never get starfish.
So it was a good encounter, but maybe with less looks on their part I would have sent them home with P100 or 200 after finding out. Will consider them if in the right mood but WON'T like expecting one thing and getting another. This was the most beautiful one I'd seen in the PI easily. Trip was first time in Angeles in 6 years and the PI had always been 100% girls for me. If they knew, the guys at the bar and the hotel desk person said nothing.
So, going forward, I'll also check out the shoulders and thank O and U for that tip.
Just want to say I'd fuck that ladyboy pictured. Any man who doesn't fuck ladyboys or at least try one or get a blowjob is in the closet. Also I'd love for a ladyboy bar in AC the ones in Pattaya are a hit me and my associates and friends are often in them.To each his own, but Bullshit as to people being in the closet, if they won't fuck a man dressed up as a woman. I will always have the only penis in the room. Never tried it, never going to, The End.
To each his own, but Bullshit as to people being in the closet, if they won't fuck a man dressed up as a woman. I will always have the only penis in the room. Never tried it, never going to, The End.People will either consider it or they won't and there's no use trying to convert them. It's like the Hindu religion. You're either born a Hindu or you're not, and they're not trying to find new converts.
An environment like the Philippines or, especially, Thailand, lets you road-test a lot of things not as easily road-tested at home, but you've also got to have it in you to be open to all that. Some are on the spectrum, while most are at the poles. No attempt to judge.
(As for being the only penis in the room, I do have this as yet unfulfilled fantasy of being in a DP, but maybe that's from watching too much porn.)
BaddHabbit
08-17-25, 06:55
.(As for being the only penis in the room, I do have this as yet unfulfilled fantasy of being in a DP, but maybe that's from watching too much porn.)Well, given that you are bi, then an easy way to make that fantasy happen would be with 2 x LB. That way you could also experiment with being bottom middle or top. Good luck!
WestCoast1
08-17-25, 09:16
(As for being the only penis in the room, I do have this as yet unfulfilled fantasy of being in a DP, but maybe that's from watching too much porn.)
Well, given that you are bi, then an easy way to make that fantasy happen would be with 2 x LB. That way you could also experiment with being bottom middle or top. Good luck!Variety IS the spice of life. #ugoboy.
Mr Enternational
08-17-25, 12:38
People will either consider it or they won't and there's no use trying to convert them. It's like the Hindu religion. You're either born a Hindu or you're not, and they're not trying to find new converts.It may be quite the opposite. If homossexuals do not find new converts then they will die out. It is like being a vampire. Vampires can't just walk into your house without being invited and they have to bite someone else to turn them into a vampire.
You just stated you yourself had never considered fucking another man, but when one appeared in disguise you did invite him in and were actually converted. Had the other guy showed up without the wig and make-up and woman's clothing, then odds are you would have never considered fucking him. But he showed up in a way as to get you to invite him in so he could convert you. The devil never presents to people as himself, the same as that guy did not present to you as himself. He put on a disguise in order to trick you to invite him and make you a new convert.
Most of my gay friends say they were sexually abused by some guy when they were a kid and thereby converted. They were not just "born Hindu".
WestCoast1
08-17-25, 17:17
It may be quite the opposite. If homossexuals do not find new converts then they will die out. It is like being a vampire. Vampires can't just walk into your house without being invited and they have to bite someone else to turn them into a vampire.The pool of homosexuals comes from heterosexuals. Heterosexuals can not control the sexual nature of their offspring. Gay people do not need to 'turn' others gay. Quite possibly both nature and nurture play a part in sexuality. However, if you are claiming that gays are 'created' by other gays 'turning' or 'changing' the sexuality of young hetero's, then you are also saying that heteros are 'created' in the same way. Are you saying that gays 'turn' young heteros into gays? If yes, then one could make the opposite argument: heteros 'turn' young gays into heteros.
Most of my gay friends say they were sexually abused by some guy when they were a kid and thereby converted. They were not just "born Hindu".Interesting, as my gay friends say the opposite. "Baby I was born this way" -- Lady Gaga. The only abuse they mention is from straights who don't like queers.
Mr Enternational
08-17-25, 17:36
Heterosexuals can not control the sexual nature of their offspring. Gay people do not need to 'turn' others gay.True. But as I stated in the response to the post, it seems he was not inclined to participate in gay acts until the gay guy disguised himself into something the poster was familiar with (a woman). Had he walked up to him as a guy and said let's go fuck, the poster probably would have declined.
Old And Ugly
08-17-25, 19:57
I think is about time to change the topic, from homos to straight talk.
Here are some pics that demonstrates how assisted fucking in AC, in this particular case a 4 some, beats assisted living in the US. And as you can see everybody is extremely busy, no sleeping on the job.
Sorry for the bad lighting, but these are snapshots from a video, also all the girls are in all the pics, you'll have to guess maybe where one of them is if you don't see it. And too bad you can't here the screams and moaning.
I have to post twice, because can only upload max 10 pics at a time, and I got carried away and I snapped more.
Old And Ugly
08-17-25, 20:02
Here are the rest of the pics that demonstrates how assisted fucking in AC, in this particular case a 4 some, beats assisted living in the US.
Sorry for the bad lighting, but these are snapshots from a video, also all the girls are in all the pics, you'll have to guess maybe where one of them is if you don't see it. And too bad you can't here the screams and moaning.
I had to post twice, because can only upload max 10 pics at a time, and I got carried away and I snapped more.
Expat American
08-18-25, 16:35
It may be quite the opposite. If homossexuals do not find new converts then they will die out. It is like being a vampire. Vampires can't just walk into your house without being invited and they have to bite someone else to turn them into a vampire.
You just stated you yourself had never considered fucking another man, but when one appeared in disguise you did invite him in and were actually converted. Had the other guy showed up without the wig and make-up and woman's clothing, then odds are you would have never considered fucking him. But he showed up in a way as to get you to invite him in so he could convert you. The devil never presents to people as himself, the same as that guy did not present to you as himself. He put on a disguise in order to trick you to invite him and make you a new convert.
Most of my gay friends say they were sexually abused by some guy when they were a kid and thereby converted. They were not just "born Hindu".I find it hard to believe you have gay friends with your archaic misinformed attitude.
Threadbare
08-18-25, 22:26
Has anyone had their phone checked when entering Ph, especially at Clark or Manila? I have heard from a local that some "western" visitors may have phone messages, pics and apps checked before allowing entry. What are they looking for exactly?
Has anyone had their phone checked when entering Ph, especially at Clark or Manila? I have heard from a local that some "western" visitors may have phone messages, pics and apps checked before allowing entry. What are they looking for exactly?I have found rumors very unreliable anywhere. I always go for first hand actual knowledge. I have never seen a cell phone opened at entry other than a few years ago asking for a QR code or showing an exit ticket.
Of course I have never enter via Clark so I can only speak about Manila terminals 1 and 3.
If they ever check my phone they would final some prearranged consensual sex appointments and maybe some enticing pussy pictures to see them. Let them jerky off to that.
Here are the rest of the pics that demonstrates how assisted fucking in AC, in this particular case a 4 some, beats assisted living in the US.Most of the caregivers at my father's Aged Care Facility are Pinas. I've sent them your post as an example of the expected standard of care.
No reply yet but I'll keep you informed.
G.
Has anyone had their phone checked when entering Ph, especially at Clark or Manila? I have heard from a local that some "western" visitors may have phone messages, pics and apps checked before allowing entry. What are they looking for exactly?Another example of stories where there is more than meets the eye.
No, regular Joe Q Citizens don't get stopped at the airport and their data inspected. If someone is getting stopped, it's because they have done something to be on Border Control's radar. It wasn't a "random" search.
Enjoy. G.
Stop it. You, I, and any other straight man would be attracted to this person. Ever watched a runway fashion show? Lotta wide shoulders. The scary part is this person putting herself in danger by trying to fool someone.But if they told me they used to be a man. I would be like damn you almost had me. Then would honestly thank them for telling me and tell them I cannot.
This is starting to get scary.
Mr Enternational
08-19-25, 05:05
Has anyone had their phone checked when entering Ph, especially at Clark or Manila?Entered twice in the last month and no idea what you are talking about. A minute ago coming through, the lady did not even care to scan that etravel thing.
WestCoast1
08-19-25, 05:24
Most of the caregivers at my father's Aged Care Facility are Pinas. I've sent them your post as an example of the expected standard of care.
No reply yet but I'll keep you informed.And your father is still ALIVE?
WestCoast1
08-19-25, 05:45
Another example of stories where there is more than meets the eye.
No, regular Joe Q Citizens don't get stopped at the airport and their data inspected. If someone is getting stopped, it's because they have done something to be on Border Control's radar. It wasn't a "random" search.Agree. Never heard of any inbound foreigners having their gadgets inspected at a Phils airport. That doesn't mean that its not happening.
OTOH, I'd guess that its just a matter of time. I would guess that eventually, as with other measures taken at NAIA, the 'bigs' will require such from various countries.
What are they looking for exactly?Westy's schwanztooga (its magnificent).
He walked RIGHT INTO that one.
And your father is still ALIVE?Probably won't be any more once the staff upgrade him to Sir Ugly's Premium Care package.
At least he'll go out smiling.
😄.
WestCoast1
08-19-25, 06:46
Probably won't be any more once the staff upgrade him to Sir Ugly's Premium Care package.
At least he'll go out smiling."Well he came and he went at the same time". -- Richard Pryor, talking about his elderly father's passing, while he was having sex with an 18 yo lass.
They say that the best you can hope for is to die in your sleep. But now I'm wondering. . . .
FuriousGeorge
08-19-25, 07:07
I've actually done DVP a few times. It was cool. Felt good. And hey, I'm confident that I'm not gay.
Also, as it appears that nothing is being censored here lately, somebody should probably create a new section so all the 'straights' don't have to see it (But I bet they peek in once in a while).
Just don't become this guy. Although this monologue is among the best in television history:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QSITUpElxso
People will either consider it or they won't and there's no use trying to convert them. It's like the Hindu religion. You're either born a Hindu or you're not, and they're not trying to find new converts.
An environment like the Philippines or, especially, Thailand, lets you road-test a lot of things not as easily road-tested at home, but you've also got to have it in you to be open to all that. Some are on the spectrum, while most are at the poles. No attempt to judge.
(As for being the only penis in the room, I do have this as yet unfulfilled fantasy of being in a DP, but maybe that's from watching too much porn.)
BaddHabbit
08-19-25, 07:10
Has anyone had their phone checked when entering Ph, especially at Clark or Manila? I have heard from a local that some "western" visitors may have phone messages, pics and apps checked before allowing entry. What are they looking for exactly?I'm on my way back to Cebu, where I live, via Manila tomorrow, so I'll let you know if it happens to me.
Threadbare
08-19-25, 11:56
I'm on my way back to Cebu, where I live, via Manila tomorrow, so I'll let you know if it happens to me.Thanks for all your replies on this. I was there in Dec, via NIAA, and didn't encounter any checks or questions. I'll be visiting again next month, I will report anything unusual, as well as any interesting encounters. Yes it could well be people already on their radar.
Has anyone had their phone checked when entering Ph, especially at Clark or Manila? I have heard from a local that some "western" visitors may have phone messages, pics and apps checked before allowing entry. What are they looking for exactly?Never had an issue TB.
Never had a bag checked and just herded through customs like cattle by officialdom who'd rather be somewhere else, if it wasn't for the money.
I work with a cute, educated Filipina in Australia and mentioned to her way back, "Gee, they must betting a lot of drugs and stuff into the country as the customs are so slack".
She said, "We're an island country. They bypass the high security at airports and get everything by boat. " Which made sense.
I'd be more worried about your devices getting checked upon your return to you home country.
I own a lingerie business and do a lot of photo shoots while in The Phils. Most of our lingerie is crotchless, so there's some very revealing photo's on my laptop, phone and camera after each visit. I always get the 'models' to sign a model release form. Obviously they don't understand the legals, but I try to explain it and slip them 100 p extra for their signature (templates are easily found online.).
For anyone reading, keep in mind, that any images of any girl that looks remotely underage, will get you into deep shit, and rightly so.
Just my experience _ Phil.
I'd be more worried about your devices getting checked upon your return to you home country.
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For anyone reading, keep in mind, that any images of any girl that looks remotely underage, will get you into deep shit, and rightly so.
Just my experience _ Phil.There's the real risk right there. It's easy to see a bull dyke in Immigration back home think that a 30 yo Asian girl is really a teenager.
G.
Mr Enternational
08-19-25, 21:43
A Bumble chick that caretakes for an older guy (lord I hope it ain't OldAndUgly) was supposed to come by at 7 pm. I hit her up asking where she was and no answer. At 7:45 she hit me back saying the power went off and her phone was dead. Too late.
My backup had already arrived. SM Call center chick that lives like 2 hours away. She does not work until 1 am but has to come extra early everyday before the jeepney stops running. She said she was really tired. They have places for them to sleep at work, but I told her she can come sleep here. She asked about sex and I said never know.
When she came in I had her take off her clothes to get in bed. Like 2 seconds later we were fucking. Then we both fell off to sleep and woke up at 11:30 pm and fucked again. I walked with her as far as Jolibee then she went towards SM and me towards Red Street. (She will come back in the morning at 10 am when she gets off work.).
I was just looking for something to eat. Stopped and looked at the Menu at Hamer but decided to go to The Best Cafe, or whatever the place with the French name is. I sat there 3 hours eating, taking care of some business online, and people watching. From my perspective there were plenty of people out. I decided to call it a night at 3 am.
I took a walk down Red Street before going to my hotel. Pretty much everything was shut down. I think maybe 2 or 3 bars were still open. The streets were bare, which made me believe my earlier perspective of plenty of people being out was wrong. I was sitting at the restaurant and made the assumption from from several groups of chicks and several guys with their dates for the night entering, along with the several chicks I saw entering Mega Dancs next door. Whatever the case, it was way more people than I saw last month during the continuous rain.
I headed back the other way to my hotel. For the folks interested, there were about 15 guys dressed up as women crouching in a circle in the street right past Phillies. It literally smelled like armpits and assholes when I walked past them. I stopped a little ways up deciding to use my Samsung Scumbag Zoom to take a picture of them. A damn trike driver kept calling out to me pestering drawing attention while I was trying to be on the sly. Reminded me of the scene in Friday when Smokey was trying to take a shit on the side of the house and Ezell kept hollering out talking to him. Why can't they learn that when a mf says no the first time to go on about their business?
Maybe about 5 years pre-Covid, they went through my camera coming back to the USA The question went something like whether I had any pornography on me, which to the agent must've meant self-produced but I thought he meant in the more general sense (downloads, stuff produced by others). I said no. I had pictures of some of the girls I had been with, but no nudes.
Maybe it was a random check or something they were doing at the time. I'm sure that coming back from Thailand had a lot to do with being selected. Fortunately that's the only time that's happened and it hasn't again in quite a few chances since.
Maybe about 5 years pre-Covid, they went through my camera coming back to the USA ."They" being US arrivals?? Not NAIA?
Cheers. G.
I headed back the other way to my hotel. For the folks interested, there were about 15 guys dressed up as women crouching in a circle in the street right past Phillies... I stopped a little ways up deciding to use my Samsung Scumbag Zoom to take a picture of them. A damn trike driver kept calling out to me pestering drawing attention while I was trying to be on the sly. Dude, I don't know. Stopping to take some hidden photos, tele lenses and being upset when cock blocked. Are there any latent desires you're not telling us about?
It's fine. You do you. No one will judge.
PMSL. I couldn't resist. Just taking the piss given the recent homo erotic / homo phobic posts. Sorry to add to them. 🤪.
Now, back to our regular programming.
Enjoy. G.
Old And Ugly
08-20-25, 09:19
Day shift has arrived, the head nurse still on duty, but hired a new assistant to share the workload:
There's the real risk right there. It's easy to see a bull dyke in Immigration back home think that a 30 yo Asian girl is really a teenager.
G.What is it with the Bull Dykes G?
There's always one you try and avoid when picking your queue to get through customs at BNE.
The ex-GF's daughter in Sabang had hooked up with one there.
Funnily enough, her / its name was Princess, and she hated it.
Everybody shat themselves when I called her by her real name.
Couldn't help it.
_ Phil.
Old And Ugly
08-21-25, 06:10
Different nurses, different uniforms, same nursing home.
Day shift has arrived, the head nurse still on duty, but hired a new assistant to share the workload:Still amazed how you land these chicks!! Where do we find them and how does the first introduction go?
Still amazed how you land these chicks!! Where do we find them and how does the first introduction go?I'll admit it's pretty impressive to be able to consistently score FMF threesomes. There are always a million broken promises and two girls in the same room isn't hard but finding repeated Girl on Girl in the Philippines? That's a skill right there.
Enjoy. G.
Old And Ugly
08-21-25, 22:14
Still amazed how you land these chicks!! Where do we find them and how does the first introduction go?A while back I wrote a guide on how to do it step by step, and even our days when 3 somes are more prevalent, I still use the antiquated method described there with a 99% success rate. http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?1012-Other-Areas&p=2948090&viewfull=1#post2948090.
I can't even remember when was the last time that I had a failed 3 some.
All you need is a little patience, so that you'll not scare away the prey.
Here is the old post:
The first girl you pick and agrees to the terms will have to pick the second one, one that you both like, and talk to her about the deed, sometimes will be one from the same bar, sometimes from another bar where she's not known, depending on her approach. Maybe you'll have to spend on few lady drinks for few different girls if the interview with the second one doesn't go well.
Once you have your girls have them do a test drive right there in the bar: kiss each other, and maybe some reciproc pussy foundling.
Here is a guide step by step to my 99% success rate method:
Once started you have to make it fun, and take it easy, no rushing into it, also some alcohol helps, but not too much otherwise they will fall asleep, also the upfront promise of a nice tip afterwards if all goes well, is highly indicated.
1. Start with some kissing, one, and the other one, then a short kiss between the two of them, then all 3 tongues out touching, that will induce giggles and laughter, maybe some nipple kisses too.
2. Have them do a shared blowjob, and some short each other kisses, then together side by side blowjob.
3. Have both on their backs, so they can't move away too much, then alternate licking their pussies and light hand play to the one that's in waiting, start also kissing them from time to time, suck the tits, then you go from one's pussy to the other one's mouth few times, and after that you announce them what they didn't realized yet, that they just kissed each other pussies indirectly. While you do all this complicated maneuvers, you have to add one more complication, for their confusion, take their hands and have them play with each other pussies and tits.
4. Have them suck each other tits, sometimes together with you, continue with the licking sucking the tits and kissing allover the place, then bring one's face on the other one's belly, and then go directly from the other pussy to her mouth few times, try and see if she will lick the pussy together with you, or at least give it a short kiss, after some in-between tits sucking and kissing, do the same maneuver with the other one, don't go directly for it, take it easy. I would say if you go slow 50% of the time they will lick the pussy.
5. Both still on their backs (fantasy positions will come later). Start fucking one, while keeping the other one busy with hand pussy play, then take your dick out out and play on the clit, put it back in, kiss them both, suck the tits, create confusion. Start licking the other one's pussy, then put your dick in, at this moment you just did the unacknowledged half of the pussy to pussy dick insertion. Do the same with the first one, then do it few more times, more often and more obviously, until you get them to the famous pussy swapping positions with the pussies on top of each other or side by side.
6. If step 4 was a success and they are pussy lickers, stop reading, you know what to do further, if not lay on your back, have one riding your dick, and the other one sitting on your face, then take the dick out an have her perform a blowjob, get the other one sitting on your face to join her, then exchange the fucking one with the face sitting one, and do the same thing. With the one sitting on your face facing away from the action, take your dick out, and have the one sitting on your face do a blowjob, repeat with the other one. After this blurry pussy to mouth maneuver fuck only one, and have the other one go for the blowjob directly, and vice versa.
If you completed all the 6 steps successfully, unleash your fantasy, and if the girls had an outstanding performance, tip them well, and keep in touch, next time if you don't enjoy the extended forplay you can skip it now, also you may branch out together with one or both of them. I ended up at some point with 4 of them that already have been together in diverse combinations, visiting me together, or bringing newbies. 3 or 4 is interesting and fun, but not very often, and it becomes also expensive, 2 is just right. I don't like, and I don't do anal, in this situation that will only complicate things.
From my "take it slow, don't rush it" experience I can say that "unbroken" filipinas will do more often pussy to mouth then direct pussy licking, the ones that lick pussy seem to really enjoy it, like they wanted to do it, and were just waiting for the occasion to arise. Works better with young inexperienced new comers.
Keep a bottle of tequila, calamansis and salt, in your room, just in case they need to take the edge off, and maybe a bottle of rose (not the wine, is some sweet tequila concoction, they all seem to like).
I hope this helps.
A while back I wrote a guide on how to do it step by step, and even our days when 3 somes are more prevalent, I still use the antiquated method described there with a 99% success rate. http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?1012-Other-Areas&p=2948090&viewfull=1#post2948090.
I can't even remember when was the last time that I had a failed 3 some.
All you need is a little patience, so that you'll not scare away the prey.
Here is the old post:
The first girl you pick and agrees to the terms will have to pick the second one, one that you both like, and talk to her about the deed, sometimes will be one from the same bar, sometimes from another bar where she's not known, depending on her approach. Maybe you'll have to spend on few lady drinks for few different girls if the interview with the second one doesn't go well.
Once you have your girls have them do a test drive right there in the bar: kiss each other, and maybe some reciproc pussy foundling.
Here is a guide step by step to my 99% success rate method:
Once started you have to make it fun, and take it easy, no rushing into it, also some alcohol helps, but not too much otherwise they will fall asleep, also the upfront promise of a nice tip afterwards if all goes well, is highly indicated.
1. Start with some kissing, one, and the other one, then a short kiss between the two of them, then all 3 tongues out touching, that will induce giggles and laughter, maybe some nipple kisses too.
2. Have them do a shared blowjob, and some short each other kisses, then together side by side blowjob.
3. Have both on their backs, so they can't move away too much, then alternate licking their pussies and light hand play to the one that's in waiting, start also kissing them from time to time, suck the tits, then you go from one's pussy to the other one's mouth few times, and after that you announce them what they didn't realized yet, that they just kissed each other pussies indirectly. While you do all this complicated maneuvers, you have to add one more complication, for their confusion, take their hands and have them play with each other pussies and tits.
4. Have them suck each other tits, sometimes together with you, continue with the licking sucking the tits and kissing allover the place, then bring one's face on the other one's belly, and then go directly from the other pussy to her mouth few times, try and see if she will lick the pussy together with you, or at least give it a short kiss, after some in-between tits sucking and kissing, do the same maneuver with the other one, don't go directly for it, take it easy. I would say if you go slow 50% of the time they will lick the pussy.
5. Both still on their backs (fantasy positions will come later). Start fucking one, while keeping the other one busy with hand pussy play, then take your dick out out and play on the clit, put it back in, kiss them both, suck the tits, create confusion. Start licking the other one's pussy, then put your dick in, at this moment you just did the unacknowledged half of the pussy to pussy dick insertion. Do the same with the first one, then do it few more times, more often and more obviously, until you get them to the famous pussy swapping positions with the pussies on top of each other or side by side.
6. If step 4 was a success and they are pussy lickers, stop reading, you know what to do further, if not lay on your back, have one riding your dick, and the other one sitting on your face, then take the dick out an have her perform a blowjob, get the other one sitting on your face to join her, then exchange the fucking one with the face sitting one, and do the same thing. With the one sitting on your face facing away from the action, take your dick out, and have the one sitting on your face do a blowjob, repeat with the other one. After this blurry pussy to mouth maneuver fuck only one, and have the other one go for the blowjob directly, and vice versa.
If you completed all the 6 steps successfully, unleash your fantasy, and if the girls had an outstanding performance, tip them well, and keep in touch, next time if you don't enjoy the extended forplay you can skip it now, also you may branch out together with one or both of them. I ended up at some point with 4 of them that already have been together in diverse combinations, visiting me together, or bringing newbies. 3 or 4 is interesting and fun, but not very often, and it becomes also expensive, 2 is just right. I don't like, and I don't do anal, in this situation that will only complicate things.
From my "take it slow, don't rush it" experience I can say that "unbroken" filipinas will do more often pussy to mouth then direct pussy licking, the ones that lick pussy seem to really enjoy it, like they wanted to do it, and were just waiting for the occasion to arise. Works better with young inexperienced new comers.
Keep a bottle of tequila, calamansis and salt, in your room, just in case they need to take the edge off, and maybe a bottle of rose (not the wine, is some sweet tequila concoction, they all seem to like).
I hope this helps.Thanks for the clear instructions OP, will use this as a bible for my next move when I'm in Manila this Sept.!
BaddHabbit
08-22-25, 03:27
I'm on my way back to Cebu, where I live, via Manila tomorrow, so I'll let you know if it happens to me.I'm back now, having travelled from Sydney via Manila on Philippine airlines. Absolutely no issues through customs and immigration in Manila. No questions about purpose, no requests around searching electronic or physical contents, only question was when I was leaving and there was no checking to confirm The answer I gave (hint: that answer was. Not. Accurate).
Ironically, for all that I diss Manila airport to anybody I speak to, Wednesday's experience of NAIA was far better than Sydney! Sydney was an 1. 75 hrs to get through check-in, customs, and immigration and then the flight was delayed an hour taking off. NAIA was about 15 minutes from deplaning to walking through customs with my bags. Drop them at the transfer desk, jumped on a Philippine airline transfer bus from terminal one to terminal two. I was at my gate 20 minutes later. Very smooth.
Old And Ugly
08-22-25, 06:48
Thanks for the clear instructions OP, will use this as a bible for my next move when I'm in Manila this Sept.!You're welcome, just remember the part that's very tempting to ignore: don't rush it, take it easy.
Folks as you may know I have a Friends and Family Plan.
Recent dilemma I have run across lately. I had been seeing this girl for a while and 6 months ago she mentions she has a sister who would like to see me. But she is shy and has to come with her to see me. Sister is actually sexier and younger than her. Well, I have had a few excellent sessions with both of them. Better than I had expected. Usually sisters will do a rotation where one stays in the CR. This pair does 2 on one action on me, whiteout requiring a clean up in between. Which I am not complaining about.
As we were laying in bed catching our breaths, I just nonchalantly ask how many siblings in the family? One replies there are 6 of us. I go 6 kids? Yes, 6 girls! Well holy shit! Let me see some pictures of them? Sir 2 are married. One is a little chubby and the other one is skinny like us. Which one do you like to see? They both would come to see you. Well, the skinny one of course!
The chubby one really isn't fat just a little extra weight.
Of course the skinny one is in the cards for 3 of a kind. I have had 3 of a kind before. But not 4 of a kind.
My dilemma. Do I do the chub for 4 of a kind?
WestCoast1
08-28-25, 02:53
Of course the skinny one is in the cards for 3 of a kind. I have had 3 of a kind before. But not 4 of a kind.
My dilemma. Do I do the chub for 4 of a kind?Quite a dilemma you have going on there. But sometimes you gotta take one (chub) for the team.
Now get in there.
Old And Ugly
08-28-25, 09:20
Folks as you may know I have a Friends and Family Plan.
Recent dilemma I have run across lately. I had been seeing this girl for a while and 6 months ago she mentions she has a sister who would like to see me. But she is shy and has to come with her to see me. Sister is actually sexier and younger than her. Well, I have had a few excellent sessions with both of them. Better than I had expected. Usually sisters will do a rotation where one stays in the CR. This pair does 2 on one action on me, whiteout requiring a clean up in between. Which I am not complaining about.
As we were laying in bed catching our breaths, I just nonchalantly ask how many siblings in the family? One replies there are 6 of us. I go 6 kids? Yes, 6 girls! Well holy shit! Let me see some pictures of them? Sir 2 are married. One is a little chubby and the other one is skinny like us. Which one do you like to see? They both would come to see you. Well, the skinny one of course!
The chubby one really isn't fat just a little extra weight.
Of course the skinny one is in the cards for 3 of a kind. I have had 3 of a kind before. But not 4 of a kind.
My dilemma. Do I do the chub for 4 of a kind?Don't forget to check out the mom.
Member #1088
08-28-25, 12:34
Don't forget to check out the mom.Did you test the married ones too?
The chubby one really isn't fat just a little extra weight.
Of course the skinny one is in the cards for 3 of a kind. I have had 3 of a kind before. But not 4 of a kind.
My dilemma. Do I do the chub for 4 of a kind?Absolutely Dg,
That shit hardly ever happens.
The memories will stay with you for a lifetime.
The chubs are more often than not, the best action.
Personally, I'd need to pop a load of vitamin V to perform that act.
Always good to 'chalk up' a new record.
Good luck _ Phil.
Old And Ugly
08-28-25, 22:42
Did you test the married ones too?Probably all of them are married, since they were 16 and had the first baby.
SethMacfarlane
08-29-25, 07:06
and maybe a bottle of rose (not the wine, is some sweet tequila concoction, they all seem to like).
Tequila Rose! For some reason they love that shit in the Philippines and Thailand😂128514;128514;.
FuriousGeorge
08-29-25, 07:16
DG is a baller. This next trip I'm going to make it a priority to get on the friends and family plan. The only 3-on-1 I ever had was pretty average. One chub who just rubbed my balls, one fugly who insisted on a condom, and one thin basically attractive girl who I was able to cum inside. Still worth it for the experience but it kind of soured me to the multiples.
Folks as you may know I have a Friends and Family Plan.
Recent dilemma I have run across lately. I had been seeing this girl for a while and 6 months ago she mentions she has a sister who would like to see me. But she is shy and has to come with her to see me. Sister is actually sexier and younger than her. Well, I have had a few excellent sessions with both of them. Better than I had expected. Usually sisters will do a rotation where one stays in the CR. This pair does 2 on one action on me, whiteout requiring a clean up in between. Which I am not complaining about.
As we were laying in bed catching our breaths, I just nonchalantly ask how many siblings in the family? One replies there are 6 of us. I go 6 kids? Yes, 6 girls! Well holy shit! Let me see some pictures of them? Sir 2 are married. One is a little chubby and the other one is skinny like us. Which one do you like to see? They both would come to see you. Well, the skinny one of course!
The chubby one really isn't fat just a little extra weight.
Of course the skinny one is in the cards for 3 of a kind. I have had 3 of a kind before. But not 4 of a kind.
My dilemma. Do I do the chub for 4 of a kind?
DaveTheKnave
08-30-25, 17:23
Went to my home country doc early last year and asked for a vitamin see prescription (asked for 10 pills). He wrote it for 20 pills (20 MG) and sent me on my way. Took it to a Walgreen's Pharmacy and was quoted $17/ pill (generic). That's $340 USD total. I asked if I could get just 5 pills for $85, and was told that it must be filled for the full amount. Walked out and drove to a CVS pharmacy, and got a similar quoted price and also told had to fill the entire 20 pills prescribed. Walked, and went to Rite-Aid, same info. Then to a smaller mom / pop pharmacy, similar story.
Walked, landed in Manila, took it to Mercury and asked for generic. Quoted just over $1 USD per pill, in any quantity. Purchased the entire 20-pill lot at Mercury. Even better, the pharmacy handed me back the prescription paper after the transaction. When the pills ran out, I used it to refill in Phils smaller pill amounts (5, or 10 at a time) at will. Its the gift that keeps on giving. Sometimes the local pharmacist in Phils writes a '5' or '10' on the prescription and they hand it back. Nobody seems to care here. No pharmacist has confiscated my vitamin script..Where the fuck do you live that you need to even see a doctor for a prescription for Vitamin see for fuck sake. It's a vitamin.
Axel Heyst
08-30-25, 20:14
Where the fuck do you live that you need to even see a doctor for a prescription for Vitamin see for fuck sake. It's a vitamin.He is talking about Cialis. Vitamin c.
Axel Heyst
08-30-25, 20:28
Went to my home country doc early last year and asked for a vitamin see prescription (asked for 10 pills). He wrote it for 20 pills (20 MG) and sent me on my way. Took it to a Walgreen's Pharmacy and was quoted $17/ pill (generic). That's $340 USD total.
Walked, landed in Manila, took it to Mercury and asked for generic. Quoted just over $1 USD per pill, in any quantity. Purchased the entire 20-pill lot at Mercury. Even better, the pharmacy handed me back the prescription paper after the transaction. When the pills ran out, I used it to refill in Phils smaller pill amounts (5, or 10 at a time) at will. Its the gift that keeps on giving. Sometimes the local pharmacist in Phils writes a '5' or '10' on the prescription and they hand it back. Nobody seems to care here. No pharmacist has confiscated my vitamin script. Currently I have an American prescription for Cialis 5 MG. I get 90 pills every 3 months for $11 at Costco USA. I used to stock up on generic Viagra 100 MG at Mercury without a script when I used to visit Makati pre-covid. It was never a problem. I miss Makati girls!
WestCoast1
08-31-25, 06:22
Where the fuck do you live that you need to even see a doctor for a prescription for Vitamin see for fuck sake. It's a vitamin.
He is talking about Cialis. Vitamin c.Thank you sir.
WestCoast1
08-31-25, 06:48
Currently I have an American prescription for Cialis 5 MG. I get 90 pills every 3 months for $11 at Costco USA. I used to stock up on generic Viagra 100 MG at Mercury without a script when I used to visit Makati pre-covid. It was never a problem. I miss Makati girls!1) There's a good chance that you have an Rx plan? For fellas who don't, you might find that the cost of Eli Lilly's Cialis, or Pfizer's Viagra, are quite expensive, in any MG dosage. In addition, some membership outlets such as Costco offer as a service many prescription drugs at a steep discount to their members only (volume purchasing). I miss the good-old Costco pharmacy days, as they also aggressively pushed a 90-day mailed-to-your-house discount.
You can still stock up on Generic V at the two Mercurys on Makati Ave near Burgos / Kalayaan streets. Costs have varied from p120 to p240 per pill over the past 20 or so months. They don't normally have branded V, but when they do, my inquiry has put it at about $35 USD / pill.
You can also pick up questionable stuff on the streets of both AC and Burgos. Also on both shopee and lazada occasionally have the jelly sachets for about p400 for a box of 7 sachets. This is always temporary, its usually there for a week or so then it disappears, to show back up again some months later.
2) Pre-covid was the bomb-diggity in Phils. If your current pharmacy required that you show the script, you often didn't have to hit many more pharmacies to find one the didn't require it. However the Covid lockdowns saw a crack-down on such behavior. Since, most pharmacies ask for a script now for every prescribed substance. Sad face.
WestCoast1
08-31-25, 11:42
1) There's a good chance that you have an Rx plan? For fellas who don't, you might find that the cost of Eli Lilly's Cialis, or Pfizer's Viagra, are quite expensive, in any MG dosage. Update, see pics. Typical cost of a Viagra pill in the US: $90 USD. For Cialis prices, see pics 3 and 4.
Related story. Pre-covid I went to a local urgent-care facility in the US when I had a protracted cold. In addition to the cold I asked the doctor for a script for Viagra. He asked how many pills and the dosage. I said 100 MG, 20 pills, generic. He asked if it would be OK with me if he wrote it for Cialis, generic, 20 MG, 100 pills*. Given the much larger number of pills than I was asking for, I said yes. He wrote the script by hand, tore the paper off the script pad, turned it over, and wrote something on the back, and handed it to me. On the back was a pharmacy name and street address, and this: "$4. 25". A bit confused, I asked about this info on the back. "Its a pharmacy I recommend, not far from here. You can fill the script at any pharmacy. But if you fill it there at that pharmacy, they will sell it to you at that exact price per pill". So, 100 Cialis pills there would cost me $425? "Yes, and that's quite a good price. Shop around if you want. If you don't get the full 100 pills then they won't give you the big discount". OK. Thanks. BTW, if that's a good price, what's the cost of a branded Cialis pill? "You have to shop around at pharmacies. Its about $40 per pill". Bajesus!
I ended up bringing the paper script to Manila, and purchasing the Cialis pills in any quantity I wanted, at the local Phils-current prices, over and over again because they kept handing the script paper back to me at pharmacies. It was a get-into-pussy-jail-free card for several years. Dammit, I lost it on a journey back to my home country around 2022.
* Immediately when the doctor asked to change the script from viagra to cialis, I smelled a rat. Almost certainly he was getting a kick-back from said pharmacy on the sale.
Caveat: In my entire life, my health insurance never paid anything for ED pills. I always asked for generic scripts, as the price difference between generic and branded is outrageous. I also relied on regular supplies of free samples from both my GP, and also from another doctor the GP referred me to years ago. Every time after the first time that I asked my GP for a V script when I visited his office, regardless of the reason that I was there, he'd slip off into a closet somewhere and bring me back a sample blister pack of 4 pills. Doc: "Westy here's your script for the inhaler, and another sample pack".
Geneva Guy
08-31-25, 12:45
YOu can also mail order from JCM pharmacy (https://jcmrx.org/). I get 100 MG V 130 tabs for $75 + shipping. Been using it for 15 yrs get the least expensive stuff and it works. They also have see and L. Just get it before you leave. Only thing. Have to pay with crypto which with coinbase is simple.
GG.
You can get generic Vitamin V, script free at South Star Drugs 2 locations. One next to 7-11 cross street Teodoro. Other location next to Uncle John's on Narcisco street. Just go in and ask for generic Viagra. They stock 50 MG and 100 MG. The lady will just smile. Narcisco location is more discreet.
Absolutely Dg,
That shit hardly ever happens.
The memories will stay with you for a lifetime.
The chubs are more often than not, the best action.
Personally, I'd need to pop a load of vitamin V to perform that act.
Always good to 'chalk up' a new record.
Good luck _ Phil.Thank you for the encouragement. Meanwhile racked of 3 of the kind with the 3rd sister. She was older by 10 years, a 6/10 but an excellent performer. As promised the 3 on one action was pretty good. It will be a while for the 4th as she lives in Cavite and I am gone for now. To be continued.
Old And Ugly
08-31-25, 16:32
Thank you for the encouragement. Meanwhile racked of 3 of the kind with the 3rd sister. She was older by 10 years, a 6/10 but an excellent performer. As promised the 3 on one action was pretty good. It will be a while for the 4th as she lives in Cavite and I am gone for now. To be continued.Did you asked about their mom? That would be the apex of mongering.
Did you asked about their mom? That would be the apex of mongering.No. Not yet. Have some decency! LOL. Hypothetically would the mother card top the 4 of a kind?
Of course 4 of a kind with the Queen (mother) card in the hole would be the ultimate!
Old And Ugly
09-01-25, 05:43
No. Not yet. Have some decency! LOL. Hypothetically would the mother card top the 4 of a kind?
Of course 4 of a kind with the Queen (mother) card in the hole would be the ultimate!About 40 years ago I knew a mother / daughter strike unit, operating together, and not for money, only for fun since they were very well off, being the wife / daughter of a top commander at Nellis AFB, and rumors were that the guy knew about it. Both extremely well looking, highly educated and sophisticated.
I didn't partake, but most of my friends did, I saw with my own eyes when they both arrived one cold winter evening (they exists in Vegas too sometimes) at one of my friends apartment both dressed in stockings and nothing else under long trench coats, or maybe fur coats, I don't remember exactly, and let the buttons loose upon entering casually revealing their bushes and bare boobs to the small audience that was present while moving around. I was accompanied by a girl, and she wanted to leave, the apt had a separate kitchen, and while heading for the exit we saw thru the open kitchen door my friend sitting on a chair and getting a BJ from the daughter while the mom was leaning with her back against the fridge, coat open, smoking a cigarette, and watching them. Back then despite the fact that I already had a few 3 somes, and even participated into some primitive small "orgies" I was regarding fucking family members together as sacrilege, PH made me change my perspective, I had many sisters fucking together, and few sets of cousins even licking each other pussies, but never more than 3 and no moms so far.
But my first "family reunion" was in US with 2, and later only one time a 3rd sister in Vegas, maybe 20 years ago, it was upon returning from Rio or the PH, i don't remember exactly, and it was P4P advertised as 4 hands erotic massage on Backpage.
Locamotive
09-01-25, 07:47
He is talking about Cialis. Vitamin c.I've seen this topic pop up before and I don't get it. I'm in Manila now, stopped in Mercury yesterday, no issues. Watson is same I used in MOA, there are no issues. Just walk up say what you need. V please in either 50 or 100 MG, easy peasy. They show me either generic or brand. I can't believe this topic keeps popping up or maybe I'm just casting a spelling over the pharmacist.
WestCoast1
09-01-25, 10:10
Thank you for the encouragement. Meanwhile racked of 3 of the kind with the 3rd sister. She was older by 10 years, a 6/10 but an excellent performer. As promised the 3 on one action was pretty good. It will be a while for the 4th as she lives in Cavite and I am gone for now. To be continued.
Back then despite the fact that I already had a few 3 somes, and even participated into some primitive small "orgies" I was regarding fucking family members together as sacrilege, PH made me change my perspective, I had many sisters fucking together, and few sets of cousins even licking each other pussies, but never more than 3 and no moms so far.Well. For outsiders and non-regular visitors to Phils, odd things happen here, on occasion. Friends-Family is just one of them. Sometimes, over time, a piece of gold falls into your lap, like those mentioned above.
You can't plan this kind of thing, you just get lucky sometimes. A bit more than a decade ago one of my girls became preggers (not mine). Lets call her #1. She was about 10 days until the drop-zone when I was there. I considered not seeing her when I was there due to her condition. However one day at my place she said her sister (#2) had an emergency, and could she bring me the girl. I said yes, and upon arrival #2 said she wanted #1 to stay during the ditty so she would feel 'comportable'. We ended up as a 3-some for years after that. I have beautiful pics of #1 buntis together with #2 not buntis. Other times they were the opposite. Other times neither was preggers. And other times both were preggers. What an amazing multi-year run.
An AC gogo girl that I barfined several times was vacationing back in the home province in Luzon, and sent me her sister for a few days. Other times a girl would either bring me or send me a different girl, and later I would find out they were sisters or cousins.
Its an amazingly odd culture in this respect. A piece of gold. For a buck. Try explaining that to your friends back home.
Well. For outsiders and non-regular visitors to Phils, odd things happen here, on occasion. Friends-Family is just one of them. Sometimes, over time, a piece of gold falls into your lap, like those mentioned above.
You can't plan this kind of thing, you just get lucky sometimes. A bit more than a decade ago one of my girls became preggers (not mine). Lets call her #1. She was about 10 days until the drop-zone when I was there. I considered not seeing her when I was there due to her condition. However one day at my place she said her sister (#2) had an emergency, and could she bring me the girl. I said yes, and upon arrival #2 said she wanted #1 to stay during the ditty so she would feel 'comportable'. We ended up as a 3-some for years after that. I have beautiful pics of #1 buntis together with #2 not buntis. Other times they were the opposite. Other times neither was preggers. And other times both were preggers. What an amazing multi-year run.
An AC gogo girl that I barfined several times was vacationing back in the home province in Luzon, and sent me her sister for a few days. Other times a girl would either bring me or send me a different girl, and later I would find out they were sisters or cousins.
Its an amazingly odd culture in this respect. A piece of gold. For a buck. Try explaining that to your friends back home.Sure adds a new meaning to being a Family Man!
Old And Ugly
09-01-25, 11:13
Well. For outsiders and non-regular visitors to Phils, odd things happen here, on occasion. Friends-Family is just one of them. Sometimes, over time, a piece of gold falls into your lap, like those mentioned above.
You can't plan this kind of thing, you just get lucky sometimes. A bit more than a decade ago one of my girls became preggers (not mine). Lets call her #1. She was about 10 days until the drop-zone when I was there. I considered not seeing her when I was there due to her condition. However one day at my place she said her sister (#2) had an emergency, and could she bring me the girl. I said yes, and upon arrival #2 said she wanted #1 to stay during the ditty so she would feel 'comportable'. We ended up as a 3-some for years after that. I have beautiful pics of #1 buntis together with #2 not buntis. Other times they were the opposite. Other times neither was preggers. And other times both were preggers. What an amazing multi-year run.
An AC gogo girl that I barfined several times was vacationing back in the home province in Luzon, and sent me her sister for a few days. Other times a girl would either bring me or send me a different girl, and later I would find out they were sisters or cousins.
Its an amazingly odd culture in this respect. A piece of gold. For a buck. Try explaining that to your friends back home.It works the other way around too, I had this girl, and she brought her cousin, both hot as fuck. I did my routine, and I ended up with them licking eachother pussies, and at night sleeping in eachother's arms like lovers, after few discrete questions they told me that in fact they are not real cousins, but that's what they call eachother, and that the cousin calling thing is kind of normal, prevalent in the country side.
It works the other way around too, I had this girl, and she brought her cousin, both hot as fuck. I did my routine, and I ended up with them licking eachother pussies, and at night sleeping in eachother's arms like lovers, after few discrete questions they told me that in fact they are not real cousins, but that's what they call eachother, and that the cousin calling thing is kind of normal, prevalent in the country side.F and F plan does not work for A holes and cheap azzs. If you are one of them just pass on the plan. You have to feel like a friend or family to them to be included. Guarantee failure if you are not. Last trip I got one beauty and 4 of her close friends. Another group of 4 referred by a friend of 2 years. Amazing how they will take care of you if you are a friend to them.
Well. For outsiders and non-regular visitors to Phils, odd things happen here, on occasion. Friends-Family is just one of them. Sometimes, over time, a piece of gold falls into your lap.
An AC gogo girl that I barfined several times was vacationing back in the home province in Luzon, and sent me her sister for a few days. Other times a girl would either bring me or send me a different girl, and later I would find out they were sisters or cousins.
Its an amazingly odd culture in this respect. A piece of gold. For a buck. Try explaining that to your friends back home.Absolutely agree Westie.
It's a land full of surprises and opportunities if you're not an asshole / arsehole.
As soon as I arrive in a place I've been before, and hook up with previous contacts, word gets out that I'm in town (IE $$.
You'll find every relative, friend, hotel guy, taxi driver etc. Will go out of their way to accommodate you with some talent.
(For the new guys, it will take repeat visits, but it's really worth it and you'll build your network along the journey).
And no.
Those at home would never comprehend what fun you can have, and at a great price.
It's always satisfying assisting those in The Phils with a reward every now and then.
_ Phil.
Old And Ugly
09-02-25, 15:43
F and F plan does not work for A holes and cheap azzs. If you are one of them just pass on the plan. You have to feel like a friend or family to them to be included. Guarantee failure if you are not. Last trip I got one beauty and 4 of her close friends. Another group of 4 referred by a friend of 2 years. Amazing how they will take care of you if you are a friend to them.I don't know how you got to the conclusion that I'm cheap, or an a hole, on the contrary. I been on the plan before was invented, I have no choice, I've been on a small Island for 3 years now (mostly).
I don't know how you got to the conclusion that I'm cheap, or an a hole, on the contrary. I been on the plan before was invented, I have no choice, I've been on a small Island for 3 years now (mostly).I did not reach that conclusion at all. Far from it. Your escapes are far reaching. My apologies if it appeared that way. I wasn't referring to you at all.
I am a cash business and have changed money all along MacArthur and on Perimeter Rd where I sometimes got a better rate than Norma's. The rates in Robinsons on MacArthur are criminal. Where do you find best?
Transporter
09-02-25, 19:35
I am a cash business and have changed money all along MacArthur and on Perimeter Rd where I sometimes got a better rate than Norma's. The rates in Robinsons on MacArthur are criminal. Where do you find best?Although I am not a frequent AC visitor anymore, Cora has always been my go to. She will give a slightly better rate that what's posted on her board.
Old And Ugly
09-03-25, 06:35
I am a cash business and have changed money all along MacArthur and on Perimeter Rd where I sometimes got a better rate than Norma's. The rates in Robinsons on MacArthur are criminal. Where do you find best?I do WU to myself.
I am a cash business and have changed money all along MacArthur and on Perimeter Rd where I sometimes got a better rate than Norma's. The rates in Robinsons on MacArthur are criminal. Where do you find best?Depends on how much cash you have to exchange? Can't imagine Cora's handling a large sum of money. Nor would I like standing there in the open receiving it! Norma's can handle a substantial amount of money. Norma's has a security guard there as a perceived deterrent to a robbery. I always walk a few steps and take a different trike back to the hotel with a bundle of pesos.
NAIA Terminal 3 has the best exchange rates. They can handle large sums and you can get bundles of 50's and 100's.
Unless you are changing a large sum of money a. 05 isn't going to make a big difference at all.
I do WU to myself.Western Union are very expensive, probably the worst. I'll check out Cory's again but they are all much of a muchness there.
On my last trip I have noticed something happening. It just may be me or not.
At lollipop on a few occasions I had noticed a couple new nice slim 37-42 kl girls. Each time my friend there told me they were brand new 18-20 yo fresh from the province Both times I had prior engagements for the evening otherwise I would had drinks and barfined them. Both times I came back for them a few days later and they wore not there. I asked my friend where are they? She says they were BF before and haven't been back. I am assuming some local expat are grabbing them right away and making them girlfriends for 15-20 k a month allowances.
I know of a couple girls who are expat GF for 15-20 k a month allowances. Some are allowed to work in bars as drinks only girls. The newbies are happy with 15-20 k and don't have to work in the bars.
My mistake was not BF them right then and there. Lesson learned.
I know of a couple girls who are expat GF for 15-20 k a month allowances. Some are allowed to work in bars as drinks only girls. The newbies are happy with 15-20 k and don't have to work in the bars..Koreans are into that game big time, buying their girl friends clothes, renting apartments and paying for their nails, boob and nose jobs. Having a fantasy is one thing. Being an idiot is another. Even chasing such eye candy with Koreans thick on the ground is dumb.
Old And Ugly
09-03-25, 19:54
Western Union are very expensive, probably the worst. I'll check out Cory's again but they are all much of a muchness there.My cash pile is long gone, and WU is the only alternative to ATMs that I have. I pay like $4 for 100 K Peso transferred, otherwise the ATM is 10 K max and it cost $5 each time, so it will be $50 for 100 K, and I may get charged by my bank too.
Koreans are into that game big time, buying their girl friends clothes, renting apartments and paying for their nails, boob and nose jobs. Having a fantasy is one thing. Being an idiot is another. Even chasing such eye candy with Koreans thick on the ground is dumb.I wouldn't call them idiots. They got girls I still fantasize about. For 20 k a month and unlimited access they could be smart shoppers!
Anyway they may be YOLO for sure.
I might add a third component to having a successful F and F Plan. You have to have a pleasing Personality!
I might add a third component to having a successful F and F Plan. You have to have a pleasing Personality!Dang autocorrect.
I mean a pleasing Pesonality!
Where the fuck do you live that you need to even see a doctor for a prescription for Vitamin see for fuck sake. It's a vitamin.HahahahH. It's like the kid in the back of class that just woke up to ask a relevant question. So funny.
I am a cash business and have changed money all along MacArthur and on Perimeter Rd where I sometimes got a better rate than Norma's. The rates in Robinsons on MacArthur are criminal. Where do you find best?Someone just told me today. NAIA T3 rate was 56.95. Prime rate was 57.01. I don't think anywhere else will beat that rate. Not even in AC.
Where the fuck do you live that you need to even see a doctor for a prescription for Vitamin see for fuck sake. It's a vitamin.Dave, I think you may have to do a little research on this forum as to what vitamin see actually is.
Vitamin v is similar. Little blue pills may be a hint.
_ Phil.
Chris Long
09-05-25, 13:30
Doll House is going to turn Atlantis over to Wolf Pack group for ownership / management and just collect rent for the place now.
On another note still no pool parties for the next couple of months. Scorbirds have still not been given the permit from the new elected officials.
On still another note long time for black tape girls at XS is now 7 k and shirt time is 6 k.
Another Note stopped into Lofty today ordered a pineapple juice 200 p the girl ordered a mango juice 400 p for her lady drink 600 p for one drink each. Short time bar fine was 4500.
Have not seen any freelancers around None in front of Phillies. Looks like the campaign to get rid of the freelancers is working.
Doll House is going to turn Atlantis over to Wolf Pack group for ownership / management and just collect rent for the place now.
On another note still no pool parties for the next couple of months. Scorbirds have still not been given the permit from the new elected officials.
On still another note long time for black tape girls at XS is now 7 k and shirt time is 6 k.
Another Note stopped into Lofty today ordered a pineapple juice 200 p the girl ordered a mango juice 400 p for her lady drink 600 p for one drink each. Short time bar fine was 4500.
Have not seen any freelancers around None in front of Phillies. Looks like the campaign to get rid of the freelancers is working.Nice report. But I rely on Naysayers latest reports but he is MIA. Is he need deep in to some poon?
On still another note long time for black tape girls at XS is now 7 k and shirt time is 6 k.
Have not seen any freelancers around None in front of Phillies. Looks like the campaign to get rid of the freelancers is working.Wow Chris,
6-7 k!
Freelancers won't disappear. They will always be out there to survive.
And maybe move further down A Santos past Johnny St. And the old 'Blow Row'.
Thanks for the update on inflation. It seems the bar scene prices are beyond control.
Thankfully there are other options, which I've always explored with success.
It just takes a little bit extra work and effort for long term results.
_ Phil.
Doll House is going to turn Atlantis over to Wolf Pack group for ownership / management and just collect rent for the place now.
On another note still no pool parties for the next couple of months. Scorbirds have still not been given the permit from the new elected officials.
On still another note long time for black tape girls at XS is now 7 k and shirt time is 6 k.
Another Note stopped into Lofty today ordered a pineapple juice 200 p the girl ordered a mango juice 400 p for her lady drink 600 p for one drink each. Short time bar fine was 4500.
Have not seen any freelancers around None in front of Phillies. Looks like the campaign to get rid of the freelancers is working.Seems an over priced dump, obviously controlled by a handful of big wigs. I guess Koreans are being bussed in but they will tire of the rip off. They are trying to control the market but the place is a dump. Pattaya, as a place is 1000 better and lots more women for those into that. Madness.
Pattaya, as a place is 1000 better and lots more women for those into that. Madness.I normally say that Soi Six prices on top of FX increases has priced out Pattaye vs AC but 6000 PHP /3400 THB would definitely cover some ST fun with change to spare.
Every objective measure favours Thailand over Philippines. Looks, numbers, accommodation standards, flight options, post coital things to do. Maybe not spoken English but everything else favours Thai Red Light areas.
Enjoy. G.
Wow Chris,
6-7 k!
Freelancers won't disappear. They will always be out there to survive.
And maybe move further down A Santos past Johnny St. And the old 'Blow Row'.
Thanks for the update on inflation. It seems the bar scene prices are beyond control.
Thankfully there are other options, which I've always explored with success.
It just takes a little bit extra work and effort for long term results.
_ Phil.I'm not a AC aficionado but many freelancers have moved online. The top end of town are working IG or PL and the village girls are on Facebook.
Enjoy. G.
I normally say that Soi Six prices on top of FX increases has priced out Pattaye vs AC but 6000 PHP /3400 THB would definitely cover some ST fun with change to spare.
Every objective measure favours Thailand over Philippines. Looks, numbers, accommodation standards, flight options, post coital things to do. Maybe not spoken English but everything else favours Thai Red Light areas.
Enjoy. G.I am still a fan of AC. With the F and F Plan I average 3 k a girl. I could lower the cost to 2.5 k but 3 k seems to be the right number. 3 k brings in the reluctant new one and keeps the plan rolling. Sometimes for fun I barfine a new one at Qbar or Lollipop for 5 k.
Old And Ugly
09-06-25, 07:42
I normally say that Soi Six prices on top of FX increases has priced out Pattaye vs AC but 6000 PHP /3400 THB would definitely cover some ST fun with change to spare.
Every objective measure favours Thailand over Philippines. Looks, numbers, accommodation standards, flight options, post coital things to do. Maybe not spoken English but everything else favours Thai Red Light areas.
Enjoy. G.It all depends on what you want out of it. I like both places, but for me AC is far superior, because of GFE, I'm too old for rushed action in a back room on Soy 6, the hotel rooms if are clean, don't impress me much with the furnishings, and lately I try to reduce the food intake. Next week I start a tour of AC, Pattaya, BKK, and Hua Hin, only for the purpose of scientific research of pussy behavior in different regions, because as we know the availability is plenty. The study will help me make a relocation decision for the winter months. The study will be aimed mainly at the civilian population, except AC where the time is limited. I tried to do it alone, but the GF will assist me, insisting that she could be of help.
I swear it's all in the name of humanity's progress.
I am still a fan of AC. With the F and F Plan I average 3 k a girl. I could lower the cost to 2.5 k but 3 k seems to be the right number. 3 k brings in the reluctant new one and keeps the plan rolling. Sometimes for fun I barfine a new one at Qbar or Lollipop for 5 k.
It all depends on what you want out of it. I like both places, but for me AC is far superior, because of GFE, I'm too old for rushed action in a back room on Soy 6, the hotel rooms if are clean, don't impress me much with the furnishings, and lately I try to reduce the food intake.I'd agree that YMMV. What I like may be different for you.
Most of the PI benefits that you have listed I'd put in the subjective categories. I'm the same. Even though I might find Soi Six girls more attractive, I still do alright in the PI provinces and far more prefer a shared lazy afternoon or an all night roll in the hay than a timed one hour hit and run in a sketchy room. I don't think PI 19 yos are meeting me for my magnetic charm and good looks but I find LOS in general, and the girls specifically, far more transactional. Some guys prefer that but I don't.
Keep in mind I'm a regular visitor to the Philippines and an very occasional one to Pattaya so that speaks for itself.
Enjoy. G.
Ulalaulala123
09-07-25, 05:42
Is there any online platform for angeles city similar to Manila courtesans? Will be there just for 1 night, don't want to take any chances trying my luck!
Transporter
09-07-25, 09:52
Is there any online platform for angeles city similar to Manila courtesans? Will be there just for 1 night, don't want to take any chances trying my luck!There is no way you can fail.
Is there any online platform for angeles city similar to Manila courtesans? Will be there just for 1 night, don't want to take any chances trying my luck!They mention all of the Philippines but they probably can recomend someone to your fancy in Angeles, which is generally not as eclectic as big city Manila. If you trawl the bigger hooker sites, you will get hits but not with the guarante you seem to want.
E.
Wow Chris,
6-7 k!
Freelancers won't disappear. They will always be out there to survive.
And maybe move further down A Santos past Johnny St. And the old 'Blow Row'.
Thanks for the update on inflation. It seems the bar scene prices are beyond control.
Thankfully there are other options, which I've always explored with success.
It just takes a little bit extra work and effort for long term results..6 k or $105 for long time assuming that you get long time, is it really expensive for you guys? Girl hangs out with you all night and you bang her at 2-4 times before she leaves in the morning. Assuming that she stays all night, is that overpriced relative to prices around the world? I don't think so. In the West, that's crazy cheap. Now I know you will say, you have to compare prices locally, but if you are earning Western wages, you have to look at how long it would take you to earn that money, and for guys, it is not going to be more than 1-2 hours. I don't think bar prices are out of control. Inflation has increase the prices of everything in the past 20 years.
I'm not a AC aficionado but many freelancers have moved online. The top end of town are working IG or PL and the village girls are on Facebook.
Enjoy. G.I have to agree G.
There's loads of freelancers on PL, especially in Manila and Pampanga.
The competition has actually kept prices down, compared to the bars.
All the negotiation can be done well in advance, and not on the spot, so you know where you stand from the outset.
If one doesn't like my offer of 3 k for an all-nighter with a free meal thrown in, the next one most probably will.
_ Phil.
Expat American
09-07-25, 18:08
6 k or $105 for long time assuming that you get long time, is it really expensive for you guys? Girl hangs out with you all night and you bang her at 2-4 times before she leaves in the morning. Assuming that she stays all night, is that overpriced relative to prices around the world? I don't think so. In the West, that's crazy cheap. Now I know you will say, you have to compare prices locally, but if you are earning Western wages, you have to look at how long it would take you to earn that money, and for guys, it is not going to be more than 1-2 hours. I don't think bar prices are out of control. Inflation has increase the prices of everything in the past 20 years.Has inflation caused your salary to increase by 300% in 6 years? Because that's the rate of increase in BF in AC. From 20 years ago the prices has increased 600%. You can pay what you like. But don't blame it on general inflation. It has many causes, social media, Asian money (Koreans), people like you still willing to come and pay these prices, exorbitant bribes bars have to pay etc etc. But its not as simple as what you think.
6 k or $105 for long time assuming that you get long time, is it really expensive for you guys? Girl hangs out with you all night and you bang her at 2-4 times before she leaves in the morning. Assuming that she stays all night, is that overpriced relative to prices around the world? I don't think so. In the West, that's crazy cheap. Now I know you will say, you have to compare prices locally, but if you are earning Western wages, you have to look at how long it would take you to earn that money, and for guys, it is not going to be more than 1-2 hours. I don't think bar prices are out of control. Inflation has increase the prices of everything in the past 20 years.Sure, comparisons are not 100% legit but renting a hooker is not like buying a tin of CocaCola. You might get lucky and get a great experience but when they see "you" are a tourist with money to burn, different story everywhere. All go go girls and girls in cheap evening gowns are is spruced up hookers, as often as not with the wrong attitude. I watch some Thai 20's doing go go dancing in short pants on youtube and they bore me. I wil be in Angeles shortly and 99% of the hookers there are not my type. Better for me to find an ordinary woman, bonk here, buy her some things and leave her a wad. When I go into the shops and supermarkets there, I respect the men and women who work for peanuts there. Hookers are not that different from three card trick merchants in London or Paris. They can ast best perform a very basic service but not for $100 in my book.
6 k or $105 for long time assuming that you get long time, is it really expensive for you guys? Girl hangs out with you all night and you bang her at 2-4 times before she leaves in the morning. Assuming that she stays all night, is that overpriced relative to prices around the world? I don't think so. In the West, that's crazy cheap. Now I know you will say, you have to compare prices locally, but if you are earning Western wages, you have to look at how long it would take you to earn that money, and for guys, it is not going to be more than 1-2 hours. I don't think bar prices are out of control. Inflation has increase the prices of everything in the past 20 years.You pose a few questions and some assumptions so here are some bullet point replies and answers.
6 k isn't too expensive for me to afford but it is much more than I can find elsewhere. My regular prices are 2 k in the provinces and 4 k in Makati. Both are for multiple shot LT and many guys have reported paying similar prices.
Saying that an AC bargirl will stay all night and provide a 4 shot GFE is a big call. Not many guys are reporting receiving this and many are saying they received the opposite. I would argue heavily against the assumption that a high price guarantees great performance. My experience is generally the opposite.
I think it was Mr E who posed the question that many guys justify high paying high prices for pussy in the Philippines because of the prices in the West but who is using the same argument to pay $80 for a taxi, $60 for a steak or $100 for a 2 star room? Yet guys are happy with expensive pussy.
Beyond the guys' options we can / should also ask what's the girls' next best alternative. On her back, she's 'worth' the prices above. If she doesn't want that then she's down to a few hundred pesos a day doing menial work like cleaning, carer or laundry services. Even in the rare cases where she has an education and civilian job, often that's only around 10 k. 10 k per month not per night.
I'd argue that hoeflation is very real. Especially in the typical tourist and monger areas. Prices in many areas are multiples of what was paid a few years ago and often that's for less service. It's not hard to find reasons. Easier travel for punters, more middle class jobs for girls and the biggy is what girls can earn online with out even having to meet guys let alone spend all night sucking dick.
There will always be a market for the higher priced girls. I'm as cheap as they come but even I enjoy the odd walk down Burgos. But let's hope it doesn't become standardised across the whole range. Unfortunately, I may be overly optimistic.
Enjoy. G.
There's loads of freelancers on PL, especially in Manila and Pampanga.
The competition has actually kept prices down, compared to the bars.
_ Phil.Recruiters, cousins and plain old word or mouth mean that there as always an influx of girls coming to the big city looking for better options. Add in broke students and we can get the perfect storm of girls with bills to pay while away from the judgemental eyes of friends and family.
Luckily we have the ideal match of girls open to novel ways to get said bills paid and supportive gentlemen like you and I who can assist.
Enjoy. G.
6 k or $105 for long time assuming that you get long time, is it really expensive for you guys? Girl hangs out with you all night and you bang her at 2-4 times before she leaves in the morning. Assuming that she stays all night, is that overpriced relative to prices around the world? I don't think so. In the West, that's crazy cheap. Now I know you will say, you have to compare prices locally, but if you are earning Western wages, you have to look at how long it would take you to earn that money, and for guys, it is not going to be more than 1-2 hours. I don't think bar prices are out of control. Inflation has increase the prices of everything in the past 20 years.But if you're looking at it from how long it takes to make the money, you need to add in travel cost, lodging cost and hours of earning missed to travel to and from your hookup site.
I'm not judging whether or not it's expensive, but if you're not looking at it from the local economy, it's necessary to consider your other expenses.
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