Angeles City

[WestCoast1]

Archive pics from precovid. I used to think of that time as the 'good old days', as so much has changed. But maybe a better moniker might be 'better-than-now old days'. From the reports, you can still get laid with a cutie for a hundred clams. A far cry from Santos and Raymond streets ST bars of p400 or 500 for 4 hours back then, but its still not outrageous considering inflation and AC's convenience of bringing many girls together in one place for your prurient perusal.

Enjoy, Westy.

[Old And Ugly]

Archive pics from precovid. I used to think of that time as the 'good old days', as so much has changed. But maybe a better moniker might be 'better-than-now old days'. From the reports, you can still get laid with a cutie for a hundred clams. A far cry from Santos and Raymond streets ST bars of p400 or 500 for 4 hours back then, but its still not outrageous considering inflation and AC's convenience of bringing many girls together in one place for your prurient perusal.

Enjoy, Westy.I'm still stuck in the "old days" modus operandi, which implies the now obsolete pricing scale. But if one insists it's still possible to find it, even in AC. 1. 5-2 K still available if you have patience (lately I don't). I'm not talking about toothless hookers.

Hint: don't hunt on Red Street and surroundings, or if you do, watch for the ones holding their resumes in the hand.

[WestCoast1]

I'm still stuck in the "old days" modus operandi, which implies the now obsolete pricing scale. But if one insists it's still possible to find it, even in AC. 1. 5-2 K still available if you have patience (lately I don't). I'm not talking about toothless hookers.

Hint: don't hunt on Red Street and surroundings, or if you do, watch for the ones holding their resumes in the hand.I was talking about the gogos. There is no hunting in gogo bars, just point-and-shoot. But yes, good info on the street meat.

[Old And Ugly]

I was talking about the gogos. There is no hunting in gogo bars, just point-and-shoot. But yes, good info on the street meat.Oh, I'm hitting the bars too, when in a hurry, and it used to be a habit, but not so much since I moved here permanently, and I have lots of time on my hands.

[Charlies4]

Archive pics from precovid. I used to think of that time as the 'good old days', as so much has changed. But maybe a better moniker might be 'better-than-now old days'. From the reports, you can still get laid with a cutie for a hundred clams. A far cry from Santos and Raymond streets ST bars of p400 or 500 for 4 hours back then, but its still not outrageous considering inflation and AC's convenience of bringing many girls together in one place for your prurient perusal.

Enjoy, Westy.Thanks for sharing the continuous stream of pics. Really look forward to those posts.

How do you get them to agree to record or snap pics? Most are shy and refuse.

Although I have got some success by either offering extra pesos or picking the camera in the middle of a heated session.

[WestCoast1]

How do you get them to agree to record or snap pics? Most are shy and refuse.Its discussed in advance. I have a small list of deal-breakers. When my regular gals bring a new girl, they have brought her up to speed before she finds the hotel door. No surprises (other than the occasional multi-orgasmic creature).

[D Cups]

Thanks for sharing the continuous stream of pics. Really look forward to those posts.

How do you get them to agree to record or snap pics? Most are shy and refuse.

Although I have got some success by either offering extra pesos or picking the camera in the middle of a heated session.It helps if you buy them a bikini or a nice piece of lingerie.

[WestCoast1]

SNIP or picking the camera in the middle of a heated session.Sometimes girls who are initially shy to it, after they get comfortable to it over a number of sessions, unleash their inner narcissist, in different ways. She starts leaving several additional nude shots on my camera for me, with her face hidden. A tall wall mirror-selfie or a CR mirror-selfie, with the camera and cam hand covering her face. Or the same pic from the neck down. Or a bust selfie, the cam poised in front of her and slightly above, showing face and naked shoulders down to the top of the boobage area, with a nawty look in her eyes. They start like that, and later turn into slightly more risque nudes, then later very nawty nudes or very classy nudes. You might think that I would gravitate towards making hotties my regulars, and sometimes that's correct. However other favorite repeat girls are either horny girls (and maybe less in the looks category), or narcissistic girls (or any combo). It depends the girl (some girls have little interest). Sometimes its done while I am emailing on my computer, other times when I am unaware in the shower (left there for me to find later).

The 5-6 years before Covid, and the covid pandemic, caused a seismic shift in AC bar rules regarding camera uses. Signs started going up inside and outside the bars saying no cameras (Burgos also). Previously you could take a small handheld point-and-shoot cheap camera from Walmart inside with you and snap away. Bargirls in every bar would jump into the frame to get in on group shots. In about half the bars, if you just set it on the table a girl or waitress would grab it and take a few group pics in the bar and hand it back to you. They weren't interested in getting a copy of the pic, they just wanted to be photographed with their friends. This also translated to the bedroom most of the time. I had stopped for several years asking gogo girls in advance if we could use the camera in the hotel, they just did it. Then one girl didn't want to do it once we hit the hotel, and that made me start asking again. It was unusual for girls to say no in the bar.

But that was the good-old-days / better-old-days. That doesn't mean that pic-positive girls don't exist anymore, they do; you just have to be clear on what you want from the start.

[Expat American]

Archive pics from precovid. I used to think of that time as the 'good old days', as so much has changed. But maybe a better moniker might be 'better-than-now old days'. From the reports, you can still get laid with a cutie for a hundred clams. A far cry from Santos and Raymond streets ST bars of p400 or 500 for 4 hours back then, but its still not outrageous considering inflation and AC's convenience of bringing many girls together in one place for your prurient perusal.

Enjoy, Westy.What 500 Peso used to get you. From the erstwhile Nifty's.

[PhilJoy]

Thanks for sharing the continuous stream of pics. Really look forward to those posts.

How do you get them to agree to record or snap pics? Most are shy and refuse.

Although I have got some success by either offering extra pesos or picking the camera in the middle of a heated session.My situation is a bit different Charlies.

We have a lingerie business, and much of it is crotchless, so it's always a bonus to find a pretty thing that I can also use the images 'tastefully' online and obviously promote them via whatever social media they're doing.

For this, I get them to sign a model release form as I hand over the 1 k and a free pair of knickers. The battle is explaining how they can make some extra cash if they just look at other opportunities other than FB.

As Cups said, a cheap free bikini or some lingerie can work wonders.

This often leads to some more raunchy pics.

It's mostly shots of their pink bits and I always show the girls the pics to build trust and delete anything they don't like in front of them, as many don't want their faces in any explicit pics, which is understandable.

More often than not, for me it's business first and pleasure an hour or so later.

_ Phil.

[Old And Ugly]

What 500 Peso used to get you. From the erstwhile Nifty's.Two pairs of boobs are always better than one.

[Charlies4]

My situation is a bit different Charlies.

We have a lingerie business, and much of it is crotchless, so it's always a bonus to find a pretty thing that I can also use the images 'tastefully' online and obviously promote them via whatever social media they're doing.

For this, I get them to sign a model release form as I hand over the 1 k and a free pair of knickers. The battle is explaining how they can make some extra cash if they just look at other opportunities other than FB.

As Cups said, a cheap free bikini or some lingerie can work wonders.

This often leads to some more raunchy pics.

It's mostly shots of their pink bits and I always show the girls the pics to build trust and delete anything they don't like in front of them, as many don't want their faces in any explicit pics, which is understandable.

More often than not, for me it's business first and pleasure an hour or so later.

_ Phil.Thanks Guys for sharing your thoughts.

[Asian Rain]

How do you get them to agree to record or snap pics? Most are shy and refuse.I just say "Open Sesame", a nice little gap opens and all my wishes are granted. Oops, the secret is out now. Enjoy, AR.

[WestCoast1]

I just say "Open Sesame", a nice little gap opens and all my wishes are granted. Oops, the secret is out now. Enjoy, AR.Great ass!


Archive pics from precovid. SNIP A far cry from Santos and Raymond streets ST bars of p400 or 500 for 4 hours back then, but its still not outrageous considering inflation and AC's convenience of bringing many girls together in one place for your prurient perusal.A pic story (ies). From back in the day in AC, I had several sets of 2 girls from different bars I liked for 3-somes. The girl in this pic and another gal were such. If I was in the shower, they'd take naked selfies together. Sometimes between pops I took them to Tropix or Body Shop and they grabbed my phone and took selfies together there (neither had a phone at the time). They never seemed to care that they didn't get to keep any of the pics, they were more interested in posing.

I had a pro Nikon and a separate mounted flash. Both had a power button. In the pic, I am chatting with one of the girls in bed. The other girl, lets call her CM, took this pic just 30 minutes after snowballing with this girl. I wasn't aware at the time that CM was taking pictures. She must have powered on the camera, and forgot to power on the flash. I would have noticed the flash going off. The next day, scrolling thru the pics from the 2-pop session the day prior, I noticed about 18-20 pics like this one, from after the first pop. All 20-ish pics were over a 20-ish minute period, and were taken from several different vantage points in the room. All were pics of me and this girl talking. Each pic was taken about 1 minute after the previous pic, they were all spaced about a minute apart in time. I never noticed her standing or moving around doing that. I didn't remember those pics being taken while I was talking to the other girl. Back in the day, sometimes you got lucky in AC (even the blind squirrel occasionally finds a nut). I got lucky maybe 4-5 x with these two. Literally have hundreds of pics of them.

Second cam story, which I think I posted back when. Found a girl in Cebu. She kept returning most days for the 2 weeks that I was there, and one afternoon she brought another girl. Both skinny spinners, mid-20's. They also liked taking pics of each other naked and together between sessions. One day I stepped into the CR to sit on the throne. The cam was a small point-and-shoot with a built-in flash. At one point while they were twirling around the room snapping pics of each other (wrapping themselves in the drapes, sitting on the countertop, laying on the countertop, pretending to hide under the bed, standing on the toilet, wrapping themselves in the shower curtain, standing on the counter in the CR in front of the mirror, and so on), they hollered: "Awwww. Westy. Camera says your memory card is full". From the throne: Sorry ladies, that can't possibly be true. I just purchased the card. It can't be full. Let me finish my biz and I will look at it. When I went out to look, it was full of pics the two girls had taken over several afternoons. They were very playful and didn't seem to tire of it. Had to go to the E-Mall and get an adapter to hook the card to my laptop and offload the pictures. I assumed when I purchased the card that it would last for more than one trip. Whoops, that card got mauled in Phils! Playful kittens, and I miss those girls.

[BigCrusader]

Hi, I am new here and spent the entire month November in Angeles. Stayed in ABC Hotel and on my way to Red Street picked up a very hot gal in Soya Bar. LT and GFE and gave me such a naughty performance like never before with any other bargirl. Tipped her 5000 peso because it was so outstanding. Taking videos or photos, like you talked about here, is not allowed though in phillies so they are reluctant to do that so I did something risky and asked her to be my SB and she accepted. This is working out really fine as she is sending me the most naughty pics, toys, full face and all.

[MrHappyKat]

Hi, I am new here and spent the entire month November in Angeles. Stayed in ABC Hotel and on my way to Red Street picked up a very hot gal in Soya Bar. LT and GFE and gave me such a naughty performance like never before with any other bargirl. Tipped her 5000 peso because it was so outstanding. Taking videos or photos, like you talked about here, is not allowed though in phillies so they are reluctant to do that so I did something risky and asked her to be my SB and she accepted. This is working out really fine as she is sending me the most naughty pics, toys, full face and all.This will probably not end well for you. But it's going great for her, at your expense.

This is the most prolific playbook in Angeles, and the Philippines, Thailand and every other SE Asia adult entertainment area.

She delivers great service, you fall in love (or just lust) and she tells you she wants to get out of the bar business, if only she could find the "right guy" to help her. She promises you a continuous string of naughty pics and vids, facetime calls every week, and she promises to use your money to find a better life by going to college, getting a legit job, or helping to support her sick mother / sisters / father / farm animal / etc.

Here's what she will not tell you. You are just one in 5, 10,20 or more guys she's fucked from the club or the PinaLove app that send her money on the regular. Those pics and vids she sent you went to all of the others as well. Those facetime calls are scheduled carefully so that she can get you off by video at 1:00 pm then get the next guy off at 2:00 pm, etc. She may (will) even call you WHILE she is getting banged by her local trike driver boyfriend.

Before you return to AC she will want to know your schedule and hotel so she can make sure she's available to meet you, without overlapping Foreign Dick #8 who also happens to be in town that week.

Eventually you will start to see the inconsistencies in her story and attention. Meanwhile she will start to push you to increase the cashflow as her world seemingly starts to fall apart with a (planned) unplanned series of disasters: Phone broke, brother in hospital, pregnant (and it can ONLY be yours), etc. As you start to sense the scam you will start to push back and ask for proof or more explanation. Then she will flip to the "you don't trust me" script and accuse you of being a heartless asshole. Guilt is almost as powerful as wet pussy. Finally, you will call her out and quit her. That will result in her Hail Mary attempt. "Oh Daddy, no! I love you! Can't you see my love? Please don't abandon me! I'll be lost without you!" This will be texted AS she sucks some other guys dick.

You are not her Sugar Daddy, and she is not your Sugar Baby. You are Chump Client Number 67 on her long list of Sponsors.

Welcome to the Monger Game.

The silver lining here: You got to bang a sweet, wet, energetic LBFM and had a great time in Angeles staying at the most expensive (overpriced) hotel in the area. At least the food at ABC is pretty good.

[Mr Enternational]

I did something risky and asked her to be my SB and she accepted. This is working out really fine as she is sending me the most naughty pics, toys, full face and all.She is sending them to me too. Thanks for sending the money for us.

[Mr Enternational]

This is working out really fine as she is sending me the most naughty pics, toys, full face and all.Am I the odd man out? I get 800 pics and videos sent to me everyday by chicks I have fucked and I never even look at them. The last thing I want is to be inundated by pics and videos of someone I have already done all that stuff with live. Giving someone money for that shit? Never!

[Goferring]

Hi, I am new here and spent the entire month November in Angeles. Stayed in ABC Hotel and on my way to Red Street picked up a very hot gal in Soya Bar. LT and GFE and gave me such a naughty performance like never before with any other bargirl. Tipped her 5000 peso because it was so outstanding. Taking videos or photos, like you talked about here, is not allowed though in phillies so they are reluctant to do that so I did something risky and asked her to be my SB and she accepted. This is working out really fine as she is sending me the most naughty pics, toys, full face and all.Only you will know if the allowance you are sending her is worth the photos and calls that you are receiving while you are away. Having said that, I'll add some points to HappyKats list.

1/. Not only do the girls specialise in having numerous sponsors sending support at the same time, there are guys who actively seek out side dick positions. They might be her trike driver boyfriend but resident expats aren't excluded. Many guys here have been interrupted mid session while the girl has to stop to take a call from Germany.

2/. Any allowance you are sending needs to have an immediate payback. Forget about it keeping her honest, securing her respect, retiring her from the bar or keeping a reservation when you return. It ain't going to happen. Allowances from afar make zero difference.

3/. Lots of guys find that being generous while in town but silent while away is very effective. Girls are happy to meet a generous guy in the flesh and say thanks while staying silent while away avoids all the hard luck stories and associated cash requests.

4/. Crunch the numbers. Say you can visit once a year for a month's holiday so you send her 10 k a month as a Sugar allowance while away. That's 110 k /$1800 for some tiitty photos and maybe jacking off to a few video calls. Oh and once she sees that she has hooked an easy mark, then that 10 k will grow over time.

5/. Here is the biggest one: turn up in town again with cash in one hand and dick in the other and 99.999% of girls will happily see you again. They won't care that you didn't send money while you were away. They only care about the here and now.

You do you but my policy has always been to tell girls that I'm happy to be generous while in town but I don't even reply to messages while I'm back home. It's never been an issue. I have peace at home and many girls available at short notice and reasonable cost when I return.

Good luck. G.

[Dg8787]

Hi, I am new here and spent the entire month November in Angeles. Stayed in ABC Hotel and on my way to Red Street picked up a very hot gal in Soya Bar. LT and GFE and gave me such a naughty performance like never before with any other bargirl. Tipped her 5000 peso because it was so outstanding. Taking videos or photos, like you talked about here, is not allowed though in phillies so they are reluctant to do that so I did something risky and asked her to be my SB and she accepted. This is working out really fine as she is sending me the most naughty pics, toys, full face and all.I am happy for your find. I am sure you are old enough to decide on value for your money. Hence no words of caution. No Debbie Downer cold water on your experience enjoy it man.

Congratulations!

[Mr Enternational]

Here is the biggest one: turn up in town again with cash in one hand and dick in the other and 99.999% of girls will happily see you again.That is only because the other point 001 per cent is dead.

[Old And Ugly]

Hi, I am new here and spent the entire month November in Angeles. Stayed in ABC Hotel and on my way to Red Street picked up a very hot gal in Soya Bar. LT and GFE and gave me such a naughty performance like never before with any other bargirl. Tipped her 5000 peso because it was so outstanding. Taking videos or photos, like you talked about here, is not allowed though in phillies so they are reluctant to do that so I did something risky and asked her to be my SB and she accepted. This is working out really fine as she is sending me the most naughty pics, toys, full face and all.While the explanations of the situation and possible outcomes are right, there still be a small chance that she's for real, nobody knows for sure. Just do whatever makes you happy, that's the important thing. In the end its all an illusion anyway, we're all playing roles in the big game called life. Just be careful.

Now looking at it from a different perspective:

I always been curious about the guys falling for a bar girl, and being serious about it. What do they expect her to do if she still work in a bar? Her job description is fucking and sucking strangers for money, so that's expected to happen on daily bases. If you take her out of there, forget her past and never, ever bring it up and provide a new life for her and her family (do not forget about them), only then you have the right to feel betrayed if she's having affairs and she's not loyal to you.

From the girls perspective (if she has any reasoning capabilities), works the same way: How come that he's saying that he loves me, and all that, but knowing what I'm doing he's kind of abandoning me in the same situation and expects that I'll pull money out of thin air for me and my family, when he's rich beyond imagination, and only feeds me crumbs. But usually they don't think that far, and just do whatever they have to do in order to survive, secretly hoping that one day a Korean boyfriend K-Pop star looking like, will take them to the imaginary Disneyland called Korea where all people are young rich executives, and family dramas evolve around inheritances and not yet unveiled secret identities of millionaires disguised as beggars.

One things is for sure, nowhere in the world so much side fucking is taking place like in PH. Because of my GF and the way we look at things, she spills all kind of otherwise forbidden knowledge to me: all the girls she knows with a few exceptions have multiple boyfriends, it's mindboggling how easy they take it, and how men think they are the only ones, and also they fuck around too unknowingly to the girlfriends, cannot be even represented graphicly its a extremely complicated web, with nodes that are in continuously changing, and moving around. And I'm talking about filipinos only, the foreigners are rare here.
Simply put: everybody fucks everybody.

[Jarango]

Simply put: everybody fucks everybody.This guy's post, sadly, generally hits the mark. These hookers have no education, are from poor backgrounds and hope to hit it big with Mr K Pop. That is their Pretty Woman dream. Remember that movie? Hookers loved it. They ain't going to meet no movie star in some third world clip joint and, if they show ther pussies to all and sundry, good luck with keeping her on the straight and narrow. Within the ex pat community in Angeles, the type who drink their pension money in the happy hour joints, their ladies check in on them to make sure they are not high talking with some other semi retired hooker.

These women are not bad but they are in a situation where bad is the norm.

Take the honest working women of Angeles who work for chump change. They want to meet Prince Charming too but all they get is perverts sending them dick pics and wanting to see their pussies in return. What is it about sending women dick pics? Check out pinalove and lots of them say: stop sending dick pics. Then of course there are the fraudsters who want you to jerk off online so they can blackmail you.

Marriage and all like it is social stratification. The rich marry the rich and their kids have the expectations of the rich, which does not include hooking up "til death do us part" ladies who rent their pussies by the hour.

[Jarango]

Simply put: everybody fucks everybody.Further to this, folk should check out the youtube channel of SoftWhiteUnderbelly, who interviews all the low life, mostly of California. Some, many, of the interviews are heart wrenching. They should also check out Joe Rogan interviewing him where SWB explains they cannot really be helped as there are layers of fundamental problems with them.

SWB travelled to Thailand but his interview technique did not work with the hookers there as it was a different vibe and a different set of cultural undertones. No gang bangers but issues he had not the least insight into.

Even check out the movie Casino, where the doll is married to "the life" and all the diamond necklaces won't change that. Sure there are diamonds in the rough but $5 massage parlours do not make great settings for Romeo and Juliet.

[BigCrusader]

Really appreciated all the feedback from all you experienced mongers here!

I guess I'll be more careful and take your warnings seriously, nevertheless I know how the game is played in Angeles. Everybody just fucks everybody and no true love out there.

In fact that was not my goal, just having a crazy time and I didn't fall in love. I don't sent her allowance or anything. I just think it's cool to extend the vibe by still watching her perform to all my instructions, money buys you everything in Angeles and I'll always pay after the service has been delivered.


While the explanations of the situation and possible outcomes are right, there still be a small chance that she's for real, nobody knows for sure. Just do whatever makes you happy, that's the important thing. In the end its all an illusion anyway, we're all playing roles in the big game called life. Just be careful.

Now looking at it from a different perspective:

I always been curious about the guys falling for a bar girl, and being serious about it. What do they expect her to do if she still work in a bar? Her job description is fucking and sucking strangers for money, so that's expected to happen on daily bases. If you take her out of there, forget her past and never, ever bring it up and provide a new life for her and her family (do not forget about them), only then you have the right to feel betrayed if she's having affairs and she's not loyal to you..

[PhilJoy]

While the explanations of the situation and possible outcomes are right, there still be a small chance that she's for real, nobody knows for sure. Just do whatever makes you happy, that's the important thing. In the end its all an illusion anyway, we're all playing roles in the big game called life. Just be careful.

Now looking at it from a different perspective:
Simply put: everybody fucks everybody.Wonderful analysis and observation Ugly.

_Phil.

[PhilJoy]

Only you will know if the allowance you are sending her is worth the photos and calls that you are receiving while you are away. Having said that, I'll add some points to HappyKats list.

3/. Lots of guys find that being generous while in town but silent while away is very effective. Girls are happy to meet a generous guy in the flesh and say thanks while staying silent while away avoids all the hard luck stories and associated cash requests.

You do you but my policy has always been to tell girls that I'm happy to be generous while in town but I don't even reply to messages while I'm back home. It's never been an issue. I have peace at home and many girls available at short notice and reasonable cost when I return.

Good luck. G.Absolutely agree G.

It's all here and now, and cash they generally blow on a new hair-do or manicure when you're in town, as opposed to looking after the sick buffalo in the province or the always sick kids.

I do keep in touch with a few keepers while I'm away, but they know I only reward cash in the flesh.

I only keep in touch with a few from afar, so I have one or two lined up from the moment I arrive and don't have to go on the hunt straight away.

I've lined up one previous Manila PL hottie for an impending trip to Cebu at the end of the month, but I'm having second thoughts.

I think I'll just play the game again when I arrive and see what happens.

Either way, I've got options and action basically guaranteed at approx. 3 k per day plus feeding her.

Life's fun. Play the game.

_Phil.

[Old And Ugly]

The question still there: How does some guys expect their girl to be faithful when she's still working in a bar where her primary function is suck and fuck? That's what I can't comprehend.

To BigCrusader: It's rare but not impossible to find an honest one in AC, ultimately most of them got there by necessity as a last resort, or were tricked into it, they didn't grow up dreaming of selling pussy to strangers.

Many years ago that was the only place where they could meet a foreigner, and maybe get married, because no westerner ever sat foot outside Manila or AC, and it happened to many of them. But the world was less trickier 20-30 years ago, the arrival of the internet brought more harm than good.

[Goferring]

The question still there: How does some guys expect their girl to be faithful when she's still working in a bar where her primary function is suck and fuck? That's what I can't comprehend.I'll take it one step further. Why do guys try to change the world or pretend that "my girl's different"? Just go in with eyes open and enjoy a hooker as a girlfriend. No pretending. No hiding. No tricky questions. Philipino guys do it all the time. Why do whities always try to convert a $50 hoe into Snow White?

Don't knock it until you try it. It was decades ago now but I had the best six months of my life dating a hoe. No judgement. Don't ask don't tell when we were apart. Just great times when I was back in town. It only ended bcs some idiot decided to be Dr SaveAhoe and marry her. I'm still pissed to this day. 😁.

Enjoy. G.

[A Traveler]

First trip back in six months. Hellish 14 hour flight from Chicago was delayed, so Cathay Pacific put us all up in HK. But the Genesis Bus from NAIA Terminal 3 is easy peasy.

Got into town around five on Saturday night and cleaned up and unpacked. Staying in a One Euphoria Airbnb, which is always a nice place and only a two minute walk to the bars. Went out at 7 pm. Walking Street was packed on Saturday night. Kokomo's was full, so I had a mediocre dinner at Gossip.

Q Bar was great last year, packed with cuties, so it was my first stop. Not as many girls last night, but some were young and cute. Three young cuties sat right next to me, they must have only been 18. They promptly got out their phones and played games. There was nothing stopping me from chatting with the girl sitting next to me, but I wasn't feeling charismatic due to the jet lag. But I asked her her name and what she was playing. It was Call of Duty. There's a few barfinable girls here, but I headed out.

Next stop was Champaign, which is usually a fun bar. It's an old-school place where the girls "dance" and if you sit at the stage they might look at you and smile. I saw one I liked and called her down. She was 31, which seems ancient for a bargirl, but very attractive. She said she had taken years off of working here during covid. She was friendly and chatty in the bar. After one drink I paid the exorbitant 5,000 barfine.

Outside the bar she got more professional, but that's fine. I have to remember not to pussy foot around with these girls as if I'm on a date. Offer to feed them, then take her straight home for the action. No need to waste time and money taking a bargirl "barhopping."

The service was good and she had a hot body, despite having a nine year old and being 31. She wanted a condom but it was pretty easy to get her to agree to going without (I'm taking tenofir and doxy daily to try to reduce the odds of catching something).

After the deed was done she was straight out the door. I'm not sure how I feel about that. My jetlag was so bad I had to sleep, so I was happy to see her go. But 5,000 for short time sucks. I think forcing a girl who doesn't want to to stay would be counterproductive, because she would be in a bad mood and give poor service in the morning, so when they want to go I just let them go.

Based on the few hours I've been here, AC is expensive, but still fun.

[Pussycat123]

Tipped her 5000 peso because it was so outstanding. .I will say it again, WTF.

[Old And Ugly]

First trip back in six months. Hellish 14 hour flight from Chicago was delayed, so Cathay Pacific put us all up in HK. But the Genesis Bus from NAIA Terminal 3 is easy peasy.

Got into town around five on Saturday night and cleaned up and unpacked. Staying in a One Euphoria Airbnb, which is always a nice place and only a two minute walk to the bars. Went out at 7 pm. Walking Street was packed on Saturday night. Kokomo's was full, so I had a mediocre dinner at Gossip.

Q Bar was great last year, packed with cuties, so it was my first stop. Not as many girls last night, but some were young and cute. Three young cuties sat right next to me, they must have only been 18. They promptly got out their phones and played games. There was nothing stopping me from chatting with the girl sitting next to me, but I wasn't feeling charismatic due to the jet lag. But I asked her her name and what she was playing. It was Call of Duty. There's a few barfinable girls here, but I headed out.

Next stop was Champaign, which is usually a fun bar. It's an old-school place where the girls "dance" and if you sit at the stage they might look at you and smile. I saw one I liked and called her down. She was 31, which seems ancient for a bargirl, but very attractive. She said she had taken years off of working here during covid. She was friendly and chatty in the bar. After one drink I paid the exorbitant 5,000 barfine.

Outside the bar she got more professional, but that's fine. I have to remember not to pussy foot around with these girls as if I'm on a date. Offer to feed them, then take her straight home for the action. No need to waste time and money taking a bargirl "barhopping."

The service was good and she had a hot body, despite having a nine year old and being 31. She wanted a condom but it was pretty easy to get her to agree to going without (I'm taking tenofir and doxy daily to try to reduce the odds of catching something).

After the deed was done she was straight out the door. I'm not sure how I feel about that. My jetlag was so bad I had to sleep, so I was happy to see her go. But 5,000 for short time sucks. I think forcing a girl who doesn't want to to stay would be counterproductive, because she would be in a bad mood and give poor service in the morning, so when they want to go I just let them go.

Based on the few hours I've been here, AC is expensive, but still fun.Expensive compared to what? Try Manila...

I totally agree that barhoping without a purpose makes no sense.

[Goferring]

The Oracle of Angeles:

https://youtu.be/biTof5RVhOM?si=uL3HYVredPhnPyPO

Also applicable to a lot of the country.

Enjoy. G.

[PhilJoy]

After the deed was done she was straight out the door. I'm not sure how I feel about that. My jetlag was so bad I had to sleep, so I was happy to see her go. But 5,000 for short time sucks. I think forcing a girl who doesn't want to to stay would be counterproductive, because she would be in a bad mood and give poor service in the morning, so when they want to go I just let them go.

Based on the few hours I've been here, AC is expensive, but still fun.Trav, that's why I do the freelancer option.

A bit more groundwork involved, but always profitable.

I'm basically calling the shots and bypassing the middle-men, so both parties are better off.

It's generally 3 k take it or leave it, with a free feed and drinks thrown in and payment in the morning to ensure a long-time encounter.

(95% take it).

If they're exceptional, I'll slip another 500 - 1 k into their bra on the way out.

Within ten minutes a message comes through via Whatsapp.

"We meet again tonight, Sir?

As long as you're still having fun, that's all that matters.

Just my experience_ Phil.

[Goferring]

(I'm taking tenofir and doxy daily to try to reduce the odds of catching something).Good to read that you're enjoying yourself.

A side question: how and where do you get the prep meds? Telling my family doctor that I'm off to Asia to bare back as many hoes as humanly possible for two months could get awkward.

Thanks. G.

[WestCoast1]

A side question: how and where do you get the prep meds? Telling my family doctor that I'm off to Asia to bare back as many hoes as humanly possible for two months could get awkward.Walk-in clinics are best.

Speaking of. When I retired I lost my employer's medical insurance. Went to a walk-in clinic that I'd used previously, signed in, and saw the doctor for my ongoing cold/flu symptoms, got an antibiotic script. Settling the bill upon departure, my previous $30 co-pay was no longer in place, and the bill was $250 USD. That's was the charge at the time for a 5-minute / antibiotic doctor's visit. One can imagine what it is now.

[PhilJoy]

Good to read that you're enjoying yourself.

A side question: how and where do you get the prep meds? Telling my family doctor that I'm off to Asia to bare back as many hoes as humanly possible for two months could get awkward.

Thanks. G.I was kinda thinking the same thing G and whether or not to bother.

My doc in Australia is amazing and she knows basically what I get up to as she prescribes me vitamin V all the time as she reckons the stuff on the street in Asia is dodgy.

So I'm sure she could assist. She does my bloods on average every three months, and surprisingly the liver's perfect. We check for everything including STD's.

However, I'm also wondering if that stuff works or is worth it.

(I haven't looked at Dr. Google yet).

Having said that, I've been doing the freelancers in The Phils for years now and have never had a problem.

Can you get it cheap in The Phils at Mercury Drug or similar, I wonder?

_ Phil.

[WestCoast1]

Am I the odd man out? I get 800 pics and videos sent to me everyday by chicks I have fucked and I never even look at them. The last thing I want is to be inundated by pics and videos of someone I have already done all that stuff with live. Giving someone money for that shit? Never!I missed seeing this previously. I'm the opposite; if she wants to send something, great. If not, I have some precious memories.

But the things they say when messaging. Too funny sometimes. This is one my regulars in Malate. She's been having breakups with the boyfie since they got together just before covid. About twice a year they break up. That lasts 2 weeks, followed by make-up sex. Last year they broke up mid-year, he blocked her on social media (as usual), and they never got back together. A real shame for me, as she has gone from being a good regular provider, to a regular horny provider.

These are the things a fella puts up with in Phils.

[A Traveler]

Regarding where I got the PREP meds, I used this website: https://preponline.st/buy-prep/, and it was legit. I've used it for a few year. It takes some time for meds to arrive, since they shipped from either India, HK or Singapore, I can't remember. If you're American, I'm not sure if it still works due to the administration's tariffs and the removal of the de minimums exception for shipments worth less than $50. I got mine early last year.

Note that the website has changed three times. They emailed me with the new address each time. So sign up to their mailing list to keep up.

[A Traveler]

On day two I traveled to Perimeter. I always have to make an effort to get down there, since I refuse to engage with the trike guys on Walking St. I probably picked a bad time, Sunday at 2 pm. All the girls must have been in church, as the bars were practically empty, with maybe only one or two older ladies. The exemption was Garfield's Last Stand, which had about a dozen ladies standing in a corner when I poked my head in. None of them really appealed to me though.

On a side note, who names these places? What does "Garfield's Last Stand" even mean?

On the way back I checked out the new City Side mall, which is now accessible from Don Juico Ave. What a stupid mall. It's mostly emtpy. You have to keep going outside and back inside and up and down escalators to get to the different building. There's nothing there of value.

I went out again on Walking / Red St around six. I wanted to check out the new Arcadia. Ten years ago this place was a sight to behold, packed to the gills with 18,19, 20 year olds in bikinis and skirts. I managed to pull a 19 year old for a multi day GFE. Then covid hit and it became Genesis, a Korean-style place, but it did still have some pretties.

Under the new name it's still Korean-style, but all the customers were white, and the mama who sat next to me said the customers were mostly white. The girls wear their own outfits, and they were standing and active the whole time I was there, not sitting around on their phones. There are some cuties. One with glasses caught my eye, which I'm a sucker for. Also another I liked appeared. But in these K bars the girls don't look at you and smile, so you have to make an effort to call one down and hope for the best. Since it was the first bar of the night I didn't feel like doing that.

I checked out Shooters, which had super-hot girls the last couple times I was there. But not so tonight.

I was afraid to go in Lollipop, because I took a girl six months ago. She was shy and reserved and said she didn't barfine. I had to go back a couple times until she would barfine with me. She said it was her first barfine. I take what these girls say with a grin of salt, but it seemed plausible. I think she liked me, because she kept messaging me after I left AC, and I eventually ignored her messages.

She was still there, and has gone full ho. It was hard to recognize her because her hair was dyed and styled. She was aggressive and talkative, gave me lap dances and grabbed my crotch. She even brought up a three way, but it would be with one of the ugly girls there. She was the only attractive one at the time. It was kind of a turn off, considering how demure she was. Maybe it was a mistake, but I did barfine her, because it's nice to see a familiar face. The boom boom was fine. She didn't pretend to like me and gave a bit of a porn star performance.

Day 3 was a day off. I just visited the My Skin clinic around the corner from Walking St. The Dermatologist is competent and reasonably price.

I like to have a plan. Tonight I'll check out the new Atlantis, then go back to Arcadia to try my luck with either glasses or the or beauty.

[A Traveler]

Trav, that's why I do the freelancer option.

A bit more groundwork involved, but always profitable.

I'm basically calling the shots and bypassing the middle-men, so both parties are better off.

It's generally 3 k take it or leave it, with a free feed and drinks thrown in and payment in the morning to ensure a long-time encounter.

(95% take it).

If they're exceptional, I'll slip another 500 - 1 k into their bra on the way out.

Within ten minutes a message comes through via Whatsapp.

"We meet again tonight, Sir?

As long as you're still having fun, that's all that matters.

Just my experience_ Phil.What's your preferred method of finding freelancers here? Tan Tan? Date in Asia? Pina Love?

[A Traveler]

Since we're talking about Prep: I just received an email from Prep Online. It says they are resuming shipments to the US. The price now includes tariffs.

[Goferring]

Am I the odd man out? I get 800 pics and videos sent to me everyday by chicks I have fucked and I never even look at them. The last thing I want is to be inundated by pics and videos of someone I have already done all that stuff with live. Giving someone money for that shit? Never!


I missed seeing this previously. I'm the opposite; if she wants to send something, great. If not, I have some precious memories.

These are the things a fella puts up with in Phils.The big difference is that both of you keep your play phones active and meet girls 24/7/365. I put my phone away after returning and literally don't even turn it on until heading back to the airport for my next trip. I will have a few unread messages but the old girls already know it's a pointless exercise and the new girls soon give up.

As I said before, I'm upfront with all girls that there is no point messaging me while I'm away. The difference is that I actually do it. I've lost count of the number of guys I've met that say there's no point chatting while home but they always end up doing the whole LDR deal and surprise surprise it costs $$$ or ends in disaster.

Enjoy. G.

[Goferring]

I was kinda thinking the same thing G and whether or not to bother.

My doc in Australia is amazing and she knows basically what I get up to as she prescribes me vitamin V all the time as she reckons the stuff on the street in Asia is dodgy.

So I'm sure she could assist. She does my bloods on average every three months, and surprisingly the liver's perfect. We check for everything including STD's.

However, I'm also wondering if that stuff works or is worth it.

(I haven't looked at Dr. Google yet).

Having said that, I've been doing the freelancers in The Phils for years now and have never had a problem.

Can you get it cheap in The Phils at Mercury Drug or similar, I wonder?

_ Phil.I'd be interested if I can find a way that is reliable and confidential.

Most western countries now screen their international post for meds so the Online Pharmacies are not as reliable as before. I've had meds seized before and receiving numerous emails about them could be hard to explain.

I might look for a walk in clinic here. My family doc is a bit of a man hating femnazi so I wouldn't be surprised if my wife "accidentally" got to see my records. Not good indeed. There is no way I'd resort to buying off the street on Burgos, AC etc. Maybe a legit PI Pharmacy but never a street vendor.

I'm not a fan of surprises so I do get regular before and after tests. I'm not going to say that I've been totally incident free but I've been at this a long time and never had anything that a jab or a week's tablets wouldn't fix. Hopefully not famous last words. 😁.

Enjoy. G.

[PhilJoy]

I'd be interested if I can find a way that is reliable and confidential.

I might look for a walk in clinic here. My family doc is a bit of a man hating femnazi so I wouldn't be surprised if my wife "accidentally" got to see my records. Not good indeed. There is no way I'd resort to buying off the street on Burgos, AC etc. Maybe a legit PI Pharmacy but never a street vendor.

I'm not a fan of surprises so I do get regular before and after tests. I'm not going to say that I've been totally incident free but I've been at this a long time and never had anything that a jab or a week's tablets wouldn't fix. Hopefully not famous last words. 😁.

Enjoy. G.I think I just got lucky with my female doc in Australia G.

No wife or partner at home to worry about, so that helps.

She actually gets it, that while I travel for business most of the time, the bulk of it is fondling fun.

She's single and drinks a lot. Has given up the smokes a while back.

Kinda down to earth, you might say.

Regular tests done and she knows what to look for.

Street tabs are definitely not recommended by her, including vitamin see & V. A lot are now coming out of India in mass production factories with no obvious regulations in place according to her.

_Phil.

[A Traveler]

Yesterday I visited Atlantis, which I understand is under new management. There were a lot of ladies on the stage, and very few customers early in the night when I visited. I believe girls from Dollhouse, which is being renovated are temporarily based out of Atlantis. A lot of the ladies were tall and wearing evening gowns or black tape, but none of them appealed to me. There were some cute young ones in uniform who I thought were barfinable.

I tend to gravitate towards venues I had good experiences at recently. Last year I took a charming 19 year old half Chinese girl from Baccara, so I went there next. The lineup was just average looking ladies, non I would pay 5,000 for. Annoyingly a grumpy lady sat next to me and kept gesturing at the stage for me to pick someone. There's no concept of just sitting and finishing a beer in these bars, so no way to explain that I'm not interested in any of the ladies. She got grumpier each time she gestured and I wouldn't pick anyone.

Next back to Arcadia to barfine glasses girl. The fat supervisor sat next to me and said it was her day off (which could be true, or it could me she was already barfined). But the beautiful girl with long hair and bangs was on stage, so I pulled the trigger on her. Interestingly she said she was from Manila, not Samar. She was petite and looked 18 but said she was 22. Of course she had a two year old. She told me up front short time only for 5,000, which I appreciated. Her service was exceptional. She paid attention to me, laughed at my jokes and stayed off her phone. I just fed her at McDonald's then took her straight home. Unfortunately I was disappointed when I undressed her. She was too petite and skinny for my tastes, but some guys would like that. I prefer a more full figured lady with hips. She asked for a condom but I just asked to finish on her tummy, which she readily agreed to. Like I said, exceptional service, but I don't think I'll be taking her again because she was too small for me. Interestingly, "bigger" ladies with hips sometimes complain about my size, but she had no complaints and let me bang her hard.

Short time for 5,000 kind of sucks, but it was nice when she left at ten and I was able to get a full night's sleep.

[NewHope]

Eight years ago, I was last in Angeles. I've rarely checked this forum, yet I've noticed a remarkable decline. Or so it seems. After the pandemic, the influx of Koreans, and a shift in the women's mentality, what remains of Angeles?

This question is broken down into countless specific sub-questions, for which I struggled to find answers amidst the chaos of the forum, so I'm summarizing them here as best I can.

Is it still possible to find really beautiful women in Angeles for little money, and if so, how?

Are there specific bars? Do you have to befriend the Koreans? Should you contact freelancers instead?

The answer could also be no. Perhaps the days of Angeles as it once was are simply over. I'm not sure yet. It probably requires personal experience on-site. Or perhaps reports and answers here from people who know both the old and the new Angeles.

Is it still possible to find out for sure? Should the answer be a definite no (which I doubt), the question of alternatives inevitably arises. The world is vast. What gets worse in one place gets better in another. As we know, the world as a whole is always getting better. It all depends on your perspective. The truly great thing about a forum is the diversity of perspectives. So here are the questions about an alternative perspective:

Where can you most easily find conditions like in old Angeles? Or, to put it another way: Where should you go if you want to meet really beautiful women for little money?

Today I only have questions. Just two, in fact. I promise to contribute to the answers in the future. In Angeles or wherever.

[PhilJoy]

Eight years ago, I was last in Angeles. I've rarely checked this forum, yet I've noticed a remarkable decline. Or so it seems. After the pandemic, the influx of Koreans, and a shift in the women's mentality, what remains of Angeles?

The truly great thing about a forum is the diversity of perspectives. So here are the questions about an alternative perspective:

Where can you most easily find conditions like in old Angeles? Or, to put it another way: Where should you go if you want to meet really beautiful women for little money?

Today I only have questions. Just two, in fact. I promise to contribute to the answers in the future. In Angeles or wherever.Hope, it's well worth asking the question.

Just my opinion, but the good old days are gone.

I've stated here before that Angeles is basically my last resort as I really don't particularly like the place, when you can score something in nicer places. I only visit Angeles when work takes me close.

Other guys may have more positive experiences _ Each to their own.

From personal experience. I'd advise to take the freelance route anywhere in The Phils.

A little more time involved, but for a lot less cash. It seems outsiders have taken over running the bars for profit and don't consider the customer or the working girls. From all recent reports, the prices are huge for barfines, lady drinks and ST only.

Learn to play the current game, and go the freelancer route would be my advice, but others may differ.

I'm sure a lot of other guys will be able to offer varied advice.

Regards _ Phil.

[A Traveler]

I visited Carousel early in the evening. Only a couple customers early in the evening. Most girls on the rotating stage were average, but two looked barfinable.

Next up Lucifer, same story, a couple attractive ladies, most just average. The place was quiet early in the evening. I only had 1,000 to pay my 100 tab, and had to wait 30 minutes for change. After 20 minutes I went over by the cashier, who asked staff to borrow money until that had the 900 for me.

I went back to Champaign at 8 to see my first night girl. The place was crowded and there's quite. Few girls, most pretty attractive. Champaign is a fun bar. But my girl didn't seem all that excited to see me. Had one drink with her and chatted, then back to my place for boom boom. It was pretty satisfying, but I don't think she likes me. I asked for her WhatsApp, and she took my number, but refused to message me, then was straight out the door. I guess I know where to find her if I want another satisfying quicky, but I'll probably move on.

Tomorrow I'll take a night off. I have three weeks so can pace myself.

[A Traveler]

Eight years ago, I was last in Angeles. I've rarely checked this forum, yet I've noticed a remarkable decline. Or so it seems. After the pandemic, the influx of Koreans, and a shift in the women's mentality, what remains of Angeles?

This question is broken down into countless specific sub-questions, for which I struggled to find answers amidst the chaos of the forum, so I'm summarizing them here as best I can.

Is it still possible to find really beautiful women in Angeles for little money, and if so, how?

Are there specific bars? Do you have to befriend the Koreans? Should you contact freelancers instead?

The answer could also be no. Perhaps the days of Angeles as it once was are simply over. I'm not sure yet. It probably requires personal experience on-site. Or perhaps reports and answers here from people who know both the old and the new Angeles..Sure, it's different, but it's still fine. The thing to keep in mind is that most of the guys here having fun are not posting on this forum. There's still a bunch of bars in a compact, walkable area full of ladies. Sure, a lot of ladies are just average, but there's always young pretties somewhere if you take the time to hunt. The fun of a place like this is the hunt and visiting different venues. If you don't like barhopping this place might not be for you. It sucks that barfines are 5,000 and it will probably be ST, but it is what it is.

As for the K bars, it's unfortunate they are not fun places to hang out, and function more like take-out brothels. But they can have pretty girls in them. Just poke your head in and take a look, because all of the available girls will be sitting on the stage. There are no more in back. Ignore the waitresses and guys telling you to have a seat. If you see a girl you like go in and sit down and they will all stand up so you can call the one you like down. Otherwise just leave. That's what the Asians do (not all Asians are Korean here).

[Old And Ugly]

Yesterday I visited Atlantis, which I understand is under new management. There were a lot of ladies on the stage, and very few customers early in the night when I visited. I believe girls from Dollhouse, which is being renovated are temporarily based out of Atlantis. A lot of the ladies were tall and wearing evening gowns or black tape, but none of them appealed to me. There were some cute young ones in uniform who I thought were barfinable.

......... Unfortunately I was disappointed when I undressed her. She was too petite and skinny for my tastes, but some guys would like that. I prefer a more full figured lady with hips...............And exactly that's why I hate the changes brought to AC by the Ks to AC: the fucking evening gowns, that's a deceiving practice used to conceal and enhance, any professional mongerer should stay away from that as far as possible, and that's the reason why I'm avoiding that type of bar, always trickery it's involved.

My choices when going shopping are in this order: naked, taped, bikini, tight clothing (pants, dress, etc.).

[A Traveler]

And exactly that's why I hate the changes brought to AC by the Ks to AC: the fucking evening gowns, that's a deceiving practice used to conceal and enhance, any professional mongerer should stay away from that as far as possible, and that's the reason why I'm avoiding that type of bar, always trickery it's involved.

My choices when going shopping are in this order: naked, taped, bikini, tight clothing (pants, dress, etc.).I wholeheartedly agree, but what are our choices? I only saw naked here once, late at night, for only about ten minutes. The number of bars with tape / bikini / tight clothes is limited, and if we only stick to those our choices are less.

[Dg8787]

Eight years ago, I was last in Angeles. I've rarely checked this forum, yet I've noticed a remarkable decline. Or so it seems. After the pandemic, the influx of Koreans, and a shift in the women's mentality, what remains of Angeles?

This question is broken down into countless specific sub-questions, for which I struggled to find answers amidst the chaos of the forum, so I'm summarizing them here as best I can.

Is it still possible to find really beautiful women in Angeles for little money, and if so, how?

Are there specific bars? Do you have to befriend the Koreans? Should you contact freelancers instead?

The answer could also be no. Perhaps the days of Angeles as it once was are simply over. I'm not sure yet. It probably requires personal experience on-site. Or perhaps reports and answers here from people who know both the old and the new Angeles..The days are not over unless you still live in the past and can not adapt.

The AC bars are a good supply conduit. Buy a lady drink and see if there is compatibility. If there is barfine for 5 k. Maybe you can get a girl off duty for 3.5 k.

What is "little money"? Don't bother if you spend good money for airfare to come and spend little money.

[Old And Ugly]

I wholeheartedly agree, but what are our choices? I only saw naked here once, late at night, for only about ten minutes. The number of bars with tape / bikini / tight clothes is limited, and if we only stick to those our choices are less.I meant that, like a general classification of preferences not only for PH.

No naked, than tape next, no tape, than bikini or swimsuit, and so forth, if I'm paying for it. If no money is initially involved, then of course she will be dressed when first approached.

As a side note, there still naked girls on display in AC, but not on Red St. Ask a trike driver to take you there, but it will be mostly locals.

[WestCoast1]

Eight years ago, I was last in Angeles. I've rarely checked this forum, yet I've noticed a remarkable decline. Or so it seems. After the pandemic, the influx of Koreans, and a shift in the women's mentality, what remains of Angeles?Them days are years gone, pre-covid.


Is it still possible to find really beautiful women in Angeles for little money, and if so, how?That's a very vague question. What do you mean by 'really beautiful', and by 'little money'?


Where can you most easily find conditions like in old Angeles? Where should you go if you want to meet really beautiful women for little money?Tijuana, Baja del Norte, Mexico. Alternately Jakarta, Indonesia.


The days are not over unless you still live in the past and can not adapt.Sana all. . . (a foreigner with new hope can dream. . .).


Don't bother if you spend good money for airfare to come and spend little money.Concur. The AC system changed (for better or worse depends on your outlook) at the covid re-opening, 2022. Prices are UP! Long-time has become ST. Better ask her before you barfine her if she is OK with no condom. I don't like any of these things, but there they are. Its p5 k ($90 USD) for a ST now. With whatever the situation, don't go there knowing about the changes, and then complain later. There are cheaper sources in AC (street girls, online honies).

NH if you go there, write us a descriptive report of your experiences. And remember, Thailand is open for visitors.

[Goferring]

Where can you most easily find conditions like in old Angeles? Or, to put it another way: Where should you go if you want to meet really beautiful women for little money?




Tijuana, Baja del Norte, Mexico. Alternately Jakarta, Indonesia.

I've commented a few times here that if some one is looking for the good 'ol days then solution is simple: put in the same amount of effort and determination that was required back then and you will find the same benefits.

Many posters have detailed finding cheap, fresh, young and attractive pussy in the Philippines. Sure it might take more effort than a direct discount flight or a door to door hire car to find them but they are definitely out there. Step away from the gogos and put some effort into finding the right freelancers or online girls and they can be available right in AC itself.

Enjoy. G.

[Docwiltro]

Thanks for sharing the continuous stream of pics. Really look forward to those posts.

How do you get them to agree to record or snap pics? Most are shy and refuse.

I have never had much trouble taking pics of the girls either in the bar or in the room. I usually start out asking to take a pic together, and then, move onto solo pics. Plus, most Filipinas really like to pose for photos. Here's one on her first day in the bar, the "new" Ace Bar.

[Charlies4]

I have never had much trouble taking pics of the girls either in the bar or in the room. I usually start out asking to take a pic together, and then, move onto solo pics. Plus, most Filipinas really like to pose for photos. Here's one on her first day in the bar, the "new" Ace Bar.Good one.

I usually get a polite reply "I am shhhyyy" and a long "nooo" for a bedroom video.

Westcoast & Old&Ugly seem to have all the success.

[Newton York]

I don't get why the Phips gets a bad rep for being dangerous. While Thailand seems to be the safest hobbying destination in the world. I got to give Angeles City a spin one of these days and see if it's as dangerous as everyone makes it out to be.

[MoonShot]

I don't get why the Phips gets a bad rep for being dangerous. While Thailand seems to be the safest hobbying destination in the world. I got to give Angeles City a spin one of these days and see if it's as dangerous as everyone makes it out to be.The PI is not generally known as dangerous except for some rebel controlled areas in the South. I don't know where you get this impression. It is generally safe except for minor scams and pickpocketing.

[Goferring]

The PI is not generally known as dangerous except for some rebel controlled areas in the South. I don't know where you get this impression. It is generally safe except for minor scams and pickpocketing.I feel a lot safer walking the back streets at 3 am in the Philippines rather than doing the same in London, Sydney or LA.

Funnily enough, the most vocal about the dangers of Mindanao are other Philippinos. I think they are more scared of going there than we are.

Enjoy.

G.

[Old And Ugly]

Red Street in AC is the safest place on planet Earth. Probably even if you drop your wallet somebody will hand it back to you.

[A Traveler]

I'll probably stop putting the day numbers on these reports. I only have two more weeks and it feels like I'm counting down the days. Despite what the naysayers say, I'm having fun here. The more time you spend, the more time you have to find what you're looking for.

With the exception of the first night, I don't like to rock into a venue and immediately barfine the first pretty girl I see. I like to "shop around," visiting a few places and taking note of the girls I'm interested in. I had a couple pretties in mind, but I wanted to check out a few places first. As usual I went out early and visited Avalon at six. Happy hour drinks are on 95, which is nice. Like in many bars these days, the girls on stage are like aloof robots, staring at themselves in the walled mirrors and yawning. It's nice that they are wearing bikinis (with wraps). I saw two hotties I was interested and took note. Despite the aloofness, I called a girl down in the past and had a great experience.

I walked past BarNana. A certain member who has not posted recently used to say the barfine there is like 9,000 or something. I asked the ladies outside and they said it was 5,000, same as every other bar. I poked my head in and it's a typical K-style bar, with girls in their own outfits sitting on stage, who stood up when I looked in. I didn't go in since I saw a hottie go into Skyfall the other day. Angeles City is a place where if you see a hot girl walking down the street, you can follow her to see which venue she goes in, and go barfine her later.

Skyfall is a K bar, and my advice is to not sit down and order a drink unless you see a girl on stage you're interested in. Drinks are expensive in these bars, and there's nothing to see besides the girls standing or sitting in their street clothes. I did not follow my advice because I thought I would see the girl I was looking for, and also the layout of the bar is long, so you kind of have to walk all the way in to see the talent, and by then you are committed. I sat down and ordered a drink for 200 and immediately regretted it. It was looking pretty grim tonight. I had the usual problem in this kind of bar of a grumpy lady sitting next to me and getting pissed off when I wouldn't call a lady down. There's no concept of "window shopping" or "just having a drink" in K bars.

I cut my losses and entered Viking, which is always a sight to behold, with a stage packed with girls, some very pretty (in their own outfits). They move around a lot so it's kind of fun to watch them. Unlike many bars these days, a lot of the girls were smiling and gesturing at me, even though I was way in the back. I know from past experience that these girls do not necessarily "like" me, they are just eager for a quickie. It was kind of hard to focus on one girl here, and I saw I few I liked, but I didn't pull the trigger. Note that I'm a white guy and this is a Korean bar, and plenty of the pretties would be willing to go with me here.

I was thinking of the tall beauty I saw at Atlantis the other night, so I headed there. She was wearing a uniform and doing a choreographed dance with a group when I sat down. In the past I steered clear of dancers, because I figured they were either unavailable, or more expensive. But this girl was a beauty. I asked a waitress and she said everybody is available, so I had her call her down.

It was so loud it was impossible to talk to her, and her English wasn't that good. I used to be shy about asking about barfine, but if you're shy you die. She was eager to go out. She said 5,000ST 6,000 LT, and LT was not available. That seems to be the direction things are going in. Barfines have remained stable at 5,000, but now that means ST only.

I don't mess around anymore and I took her straight home. This girl ticked all my boxes: 20 years old, the cute face of a teeny bopper, and the smoking hot baby fee body of a dancer. She was the first girl of this trip that kissed, maybe a little too aggressively, and she let me finger her. She asked for a condom so I got one out, but once again, I just asked to finish on her amazingly flat baby-free belly, and she readily agreed. It was a great session.

She fell asleep for 30 minutes after. When we woke up I realized I had a lithe, naked 20 year old laying on me, and I was immediately ready to go again. I was surprised she let me go for another round, and a little surprised I still have it in me. This girl was so hot, that's why it was possible. So I got a short time with a hottie with two pops, which I felt earned her a 500 tip.

Yeah, the ST situation is not ideal, but I was kind of happy when she left at 10. It's not as if we have anything to talk about. I've been going out early, boom boom at nine, and in bed by 10, and have been getting the best sleep in my life here.

I might repeat with her, but I'm still thinking of glasses girl at Arcadia. In the past if you already took a girl from a bar, you can't switch, because your girl would "lose face. " I don't think these ST girls could care less, and the fat supervisor knows I'm interested in glasses, so I might try to pull that off.

I also contacted a girl from Q Bar from last year. She's "older at 28, and maybe a bit more "average" looking (but still cute). But she was fun and energetic, and let me finish in her. She was also coming directly to my room, for only 3,000. I had asked her if she would do a threeway, and she said she would, but my trip ended so I never took her up on it. She's in the province now, but will be back next week, so I have that to look forward to.

In summary, sure, things are different here now, but if you take the time, hot girls can be found and you can have fun here.

[Sir Lancelot]

I'll probably stop putting the day numbers on these reports. I only have two more weeks and it feels like I'm counting down the days. Despite what the naysayers say, I'm having fun here. The more time you spend, the more time you have to find what you're looking for.......Thanks for the intel. I'll be in Angeles in less than a month and I couldn't be more excited.

[A Traveler]

Thanks for the encouragement Sir L.

This place can be fun if you have reasonable expectations. If you're expecting every bar to be packed with 20 year old beauties smiling and waving at you, you will be disappointed. Most of the ladies are pretty average. But if you take the time to visit a few venues, I guarantee you will find what you're looking for.

The ladies on stage also seem to be aloof, staring straight ahead like robots (with some exceptions, like Viking). That kind of sucks, but it lets you stare at them for as long as you need to decide on the one you want. Then you have to take an action, either tell the waitress who to cold call down. Or sometimes I'll get up and walk past the stage on the way to the bathroom and wave to see if she waves back. Then on the way back I'll go up to her and ask if I can buy her a drink. Or just walk up to the stage and ask her directly, but she might not be interested.

The walk past the stage technique worked last night at Avalon on a bikini girl who was a little animated. That's because she had been working two years. Only 22, with a four year old. She had that classic Filipina look with long straight black hair. Weirdly, after a couple weeks here I start getting sick of that and start going after girls with styled or colored hair. Anyways I didn't pussy foot around and after one lady drink asked her to barfine, which she agreed to. Once again, 5,000, which I assumed (correctly) would be ST.

Straight back home. She had her own condom, and she put it on me and rode me for a while. I put her mish and asked to take it off, which she eventually agreed to if I finished on her tummy. It ended up being another competent but satisfying transactional ST. She said she would stay LT next time. If you pull a new girl, she's probably not going to stay the night. But if you manage to find one you have chemistry with, LT might be possible. I'm not sure if she's the one.

Possible plans for tonight. Maybe I should repeat with the Atlantis dancer. No real chemistry, and it will be ST only, but she's a sexy twenty year old with no baby. Or go back to Geckos and possibly flush more money down the toilet. I had the weirdest experience ever last year when I barfined an 18 year old. I was her first BF. Long story short, when she got back to my place (with her sister too, like I said, long story), she had no idea what was expected of her and they both ended up leaving. That's why I don't mess around with bargirls anymore like I'm on a date and just take them straight home. Well, six months later she's still there and remembered me somehow. I didn't remember her face and it took me a long time to figure out what she was talking about when she said I had barfined her.

Not one to mess around anymore, I asked her to BF again, but she said she lad to "clean her apartment. " LOL. That's a new one. But she's a cutie so I asked if I could come see her tomorrow. Unfortunately she remembered me asking her sister if I could bang her without a condom and asked if I would use one. So if I go back tonight I'll have to explicitly negotiate no condom boom boom in the bar over a 300 peso lady drink, and be willing to lose that money and walk away. Part of me want to cut my losses, but she's a cutie. Ahhh, the "problems" you have in AC!

Also, glasses girl has disappeared from Acadia, but I saw a cutie with short, brown curly hair. There's always another girl here.

[Goferring]

Not one to mess around anymore, I asked her to BF again, but she said she lad to "clean her apartment. " LOL. That's a new one. But she's a cutie so I asked if I could come see her tomorrow. Unfortunately she remembered me asking her sister if I could bang her without a condom and asked if I would use one. So if I go back tonight I'll have to explicitly negotiate no condom boom boom in the bar over a 300 peso lady drink, and be willing to lose that money and walk away. Part of me want to cut my losses, but she's a cutie. Ahhh, the "problems" you have in AC!

Also, glasses girl has disappeared from Acadia, but I saw a cutie with short, brown curly hair. There's always another girl here.I've enjoyed your reports but unfortunately they have highlighted three reasons why I may no longer fit in in Angeles.

1/. I don't like debating a list of inclusions and exclusions with a girl to ensure I get what I want. Maybe I'm spoilt but most of the provincial girls are pretty much up for everything.

2/. Covered becoming a default no will be the end of the Philippines. Not even having to ask has been a major drawcard for decades.

3/. I'm a big fan of waking up to breakfast fun so ST only is a major turn off for me.

Thanks again for your reports. Keep them coming. My comments above weren't a reflection on them. More my attitude towards AC in general.

Enjoy. G.

[A Traveler]

I've enjoyed your reports but unfortunately they have highlighted three reasons why I may no longer fit in in Angeles.

1/. I don't like debating a list of inclusions and exclusions with a girl to ensure I get what I want. Maybe I'm spoilt but most of the provincial girls are pretty much up for everything.

2/. Covered becoming a default no will be the end of the Philippines. Not even having to ask has been a major drawcard for decades.

3/. I'm a big fan of waking up to breakfast fun so ST only is a major turn off for me.

Thanks again for your reports. Keep them coming. My comments above weren't a reflection on them. More my attitude towards AC in general..Thanks. Don't consider point 1, this girl is a "special case" that I'm screwed up the first time, and am trying to recover. I have not had to negotiate with the other new girls. Unfortunately, the other two points are valid. The remedy is to find a girl you "vibe" with, who knows you want uncovered and is willing the spend the night. It's possible, but take time.

[Old And Ugly]

Thanks for the encouragement Sir L.

This place can be fun if you have reasonable expectations. If you're expecting every bar to be packed with 20 year old beauties smiling and waving at you, you will be disappointed. Most of the ladies are pretty average. But if you take the time to visit a few venues, I guarantee you will find what you're looking for.

The ladies on stage also seem to be aloof, staring straight ahead like robots (with some exceptions, like Viking). That kind of sucks, but it lets you stare at them for as long as you need to decide on the one you want. Then you have to take an action, either tell the waitress who to cold call down. Or sometimes I'll get up and walk past the stage on the way to the bathroom and wave to see if she waves back. Then on the way back I'll go up to her and ask if I can buy her a drink. Or just walk up to the stage and ask her directly, but she might not be interested.

The walk past the stage technique worked last night at Avalon on a bikini girl who was a little animated. That's because she had been working two years. Only 22, with a four year old. She had that classic Filipina look with long straight black hair. Weirdly, after a couple weeks here I start getting sick of that and start going after girls with styled or colored hair. Anyways I didn't pussy foot around and after one lady drink asked her to barfine, which she agreed to. Once again, 5,000, which I assumed (correctly) would be ST.

Straight back home. She had her own condom, and she put it on me and rode me for a while. I put her mish and asked to take it off, which she eventually agreed to if I finished on her tummy. It ended up being another competent but satisfying transactional ST. She said she would stay LT next time. If you pull a new girl, she's probably not going to stay the night. But if you manage to find one you have chemistry with, LT might be possible. I'm not sure if she's the one.

Possible plans for tonight. Maybe I should repeat with the Atlantis dancer. No real chemistry, and it will be ST only, but she's a sexy twenty year old with no baby. Or go back to Geckos and possibly flush more money down the toilet. I had the weirdest experience ever last year when I barfined an 18 year old. I was her first BF. Long story short, when she got back to my place (with her sister too, like I said, long story), she had no idea what was expected of her and they both ended up leaving. That's why I don't mess around with bargirls anymore like I'm on a date and just take them straight home. Well, six months later she's still there and remembered me somehow. I didn't remember her face and it took me a long time to figure out what she was talking about when she said I had barfined her.

Not one to mess around anymore, I asked her to BF again, but she said she lad to "clean her apartment. " LOL. That's a new one. But she's a cutie so I asked if I could come see her tomorrow. Unfortunately she remembered me asking her sister if I could bang her without a condom and asked if I would use one. So if I go back tonight I'll have to explicitly negotiate no condom boom boom in the bar over a 300 peso lady drink, and be willing to lose that money and walk away. Part of me want to cut my losses, but she's a cutie. Ahhh, the "problems" you have in AC!

Also, glasses girl has disappeared from Acadia, but I saw a cutie with short, brown curly hair. There's always another girl here.That's what I keep recommending to everybody: Take your time, look, wait, search and you'll find what you want.

[Big77]

Been to Thailand a few times and want to try a new place. Always heard good things about the Philippines and thought I'd give it a shot later this year, but I just watched a video of Fields Ave with almost no one on it. Just empty during high season. Is it still worth 16 hours of flying, or is it played out?

[A Traveler]

Funny story. On one of my earlier reports, I described visiting Lollipop, and seeing the "sweet innocent" girl I barfined six months ago, who had become a raunchy ho. Yesterday I finally realized there is more to the story. Last year in Lollipop I bought a drink for a tall, slim sexy girl, let's call her "Mary Jane". Up close she was closer to 30 than 20, maybe 30+, but had a hot body and dyed hair. And she was pretty raunchy, grinding on me and grabbing me. She also asked probing questions about why I wasn't married, so I eventually left without her.

A few days later I returned and saw a sexy tall girl with the classic long black hair. She was also "Mary Jane," but was new to the bar and would not BF because she was on "mens. " I came back a few days later and she was willing to go. I paid her BF and she went to change.

Eventually a tall sexy girl in a dress walked past me, and smiled and made for the exit. I didn't get a clear look at her face, but figured it was the girl I just barfined, so walked out with her. When we got to the exit, who should show up, but MJ2, who I had BF'd. LOL, I walked out with MJ1.

So I was trying to figure out how the sweet innocent (seeming) MJ2 I barfined the other day had transformed so radically into a ho. She was one of the few girls to give me her Facebook (they give their WhatsApp these days), and yesterday she had an update from some resort, and she looked the same as last year, with natural black hair. If her hair was dyed brown yesterday, how is it black today. I compared the FB picture to the picture I took of the "Mary Jane" I barfined the other night, and LOL, I had BF'd MJ1, not MJ2.

[A Traveler]

Unbelievable success last night. My plan was to throw more money away trying to get cute bubbly Gecco's girl to BF, with a fallback plan of taking the sexy Atlantis dancer again. But I needed some beers in my first to get up my "courage" so figured I'd check out some more venues. The K-bars don't have happy hours and are not fun places to sit and have a beer, so that does not leave a lot of options. I visited Brown Sugar, which is under new management. Quite a few girls on stage, and they were animated and dancing around, but nobody I was interested. Until a young girl with glasses showed up. Damnit, Every time I go in a new place I find anther girl I want. But I'm on a mission, I had to stay focused. On the way out I smiled and waved at glasses girl, and she waved back, so that is an option in the future.

I visited another place, which I'm not going to name, and it was an immediate emergency call a girl down right away situation. An impossibly beautiful girl was up on stage. Turns out she was 18, and planned to quit in April to study to become a flight attendant. I wanted to support her studies, so I chatted with her over one drink, she was friendly enough, and she was willing to go with me for the 5,000 BF, which I assumed (correctly) would be ST only. I broke my rule and pussy footed around by taking her to XS to "build rapport."

Did it work? Was it necessary? I don't know, but the session could not have gone better (except for her leaving after, of course). She gave me her Instagram. My Facebook has become inundated with young Filipino and Thai girls doing dances in belly shirts. Guys back in the West flirt with these girls and send them money, which is nuts. This girl's Instagram looks like she's one of those cute girls teasing guys on Facebook, but she's not making money off it, thankfully. Otherwise she would not still be working here. I'm not going to post her Instagram, but I feel like it's safe to upload an image from it, since it doesn't show her face.

Anyways, she had an impossible 18 year old body, kissed passionately, let me eat her out, and grabbed my dick and put it in without mentioning the see word. She hung around for a little after, watching some of my travel videos, then out the door. She says she's off tonight, but I want a repeat ASAP.

So tonight will be a free night, and I'm not sure what to do. The more time you spend here, the more the options open up. Continue with the Geckos girl folly? A hope in the back of my mind is that if I could do a session with her, maybe I could pull off a three way with her impossibly cute coworker. Repeat with Atlantis dance? And Q Bar girl is going back to work tonight. But she's "old" at 28 with a baby. But she did say she would do a threeway. But I feel like I should focus on these younger baby-free girls.

Decisions Decisions.

[Goferring]

Did it work? Was it necessary? I don't know, but the session could not have gone better (except for her leaving after, of course).

She gave me her Instagram.....

This girl's Instagram looks like she's one of those cute girls teasing guys on Facebook, but she's not making money off it, thankfully. Otherwise she would not still be working here. Well done on having a great time. I've always placed attitude well above raw good looks and it sounds as if you enjoyed both.

Having her contacts is a good sign for future fun. She may not miss a full shift to see you (fines are expensive) but catching up before or after work is definitely on the cards.

Just be careful. Thinking that "my girl is different" can be very dangerous indeed.

Enjoy. G.

[Jarango]

I shall be in Angeles very shortly and, as part of that process, I have been busy on sites like pinalove exploring the market. I am shocked at the prices hookers are asking for what is essentially a pump and dump service. When their profiles say they want to talk, I talk but it is like talking to a baby, who only knows the conversation pieces one finds amongst the women of Walking Street (where you from, where you stay, I wait for u).

The average daily salary for unskilled labour is 600 PHP, if they are lucky but they want almost a week's salary, 3000 PHP minimum for long time, IE to sleep in my bed and make me sleep with one eye open. Others have offered me orgies with more alarm bells than an alarm bell factory would have.

I find all those chats interesting homework so one better knows what to avoid.

Of course, I know I will get cheaper than this by scouring around and hitting the provinces. The bigger issue is prostitutes do not know their role. The short time rate in Europe varies from 100€ (7,000 PHP) down south to a totally ridiculous 300€+ further north for some Brazilian fat ass. Last time I got short time for 1500 PHP (€20) and I think that is being more than generous when you add in short time room etc.

As regards the outlandish prices quoted here for some scrubbed up field hand in a go go bar and a g string, forget about that. When I put it to Americans as to why they drop serious money in las Vegas (I abhor all gambling) and why they just don't go to the local spit and sawdust joint, they say they prefer las Vegas to live the life, to savour the vibes etc. Fuck that.

The way I see it I will be in Luzon for a period of time with two basic carnal needs: 1. Pump and dump, which entails paying 1500 PHP max. 2, anything special that might come along (not in a go go bar), whch must be handled on a case by case cost benefit analysis. Not puppy love but Theodora Street rub and tug massage parlours are not the best place to spend Valentine's day.

[Dg8787]

Posters have come and gone trying to make a correlation to daily minimum wages to short time fee. I have never seen the market correlations. Some might use it to rationalize to cost. It all boils down to supply and demand no whether where. Sometimes in a far away province ST is more. Why? Supply and demand.

Has anyone ever made a correlation been a loaf of bread to daily minimum wages? A beer? Trike ride? No! Why ST?

Supply and demand people. A few months ago I was referred to a beautiful 19 yo fresh of the boat. She was happy with 3 k. Innocent bubbly babe. She was going to start work in the bar. I predicted she would not last long before a foreigner picked her up as his girlfriend. Sure enough she got a BF with a 30 k monthly allowance. If I didn't like fuxkin around so much I might have made her my GF. Supply and demand. She was one of a kind.

[A Traveler]

I was on a mission so went straight to Gecko's to try to negotiate no condom with the bubbly girl. Note that this is normally not necessary. I had just gotten into a weird situation last year when I was her first BF, her sister accompanied me to my room and just sat there, she wouldn't undress so I asked to boom boom her sister no condom. I'll never get myself into that situation again LOL. Anyways Not surprisingly, she would not agree to what I wanted and I left empty handed. I'm glad I tried and I can forget about her.

I went straight to Atlantis and the sexy tall dancer was on stage doing a choreographed dance. I had the waitress call her down, and it was another weird but very satisfying experience. She must not speak English because it was impossible to talk to her. And she sat leaning forward. But I didn't pussy foot around and asked to BF her again, which she agreed to for the going price of 5,000 for ST. Yeah, I know, the prices suck. But this is a smoking hot twenty year old with the body of a dancer.

We walked back mostly in silence. In the room we quickly got to the action. There's something wrong with many of the girls here physically. Usually some kind of baby damage. Otherwise many have big bellies. But this girl is flawless female perfection. Another quick session. Once again she took a nap. After 30 minutes I looked at the perfect naked girl in my bed and stuck in in again. She must like it because even though we only did mish, she was very active and moved as much as I did. I think that's how she was able to get me off two time in one hour. If she was just laying there I wouldn't be able to finish the second time. She's like human viagra.

She laid in bed for a bit, then was dressed and out the door before I was able to give her the 500 I felt she earned for a two pop ST. Will I repeat? Not sure. It's pure sex, there's talking or "connection" or GFE. But it was great sex, so I'll probably do one more session in a few days. She's one of the top five hottest girls I've banged.

Once again it was kind of great to be in bed by ten. I'm getting great sleep here.

Since last night was so successful it would be kind of nice to take a night off. I still have more than a week here so there's time. But I want to see the Instagram teen again. Note that I don't necessary think she "likes" me. But she did talk, show me her pictures, look at my pictures and do those things that made if feel more like an oldschool GFE.

Regarding getting freelancers for 1,500, that sounds low. I think 3,000 is more in line with the going rate. Honestly I can't be bothered taking the time chatting with dozens of ladies online trying to arrange flings here in AC. AC has venues where I can carefully select the girls I'm interested in, and take them directly. Some people like that experience, some don't. The guys here having fun are not posting on this forum, so it skews towards folks who don't like the bars. If you don't like the bar experience, It's probably better to stay in Manila or pick another major city like Cebu to focus on the online game. I was having some luck in Cebu last year, but it's hours and hours of tedious chatting every day. The young cuties are invariably far away in the provinces. The girls I ended up getting to come over were fine, but not smoking hot twenty year old dancers. If you want the latter, it's easier to get that here. But you have to pay for it. Tradeoffs.

[Old And Ugly]

I shall be in Angeles very shortly and, as part of that process, I have been busy on sites like pinalove exploring the market. I am shocked at the prices hookers are asking for what is essentially a pump and dump service. When their profiles say they want to talk, I talk but it is like talking to a baby, who only knows the conversation pieces one finds amongst the women of Walking Street (where you from, where you stay, I wait for u).

The average daily salary for unskilled labour is 600 PHP, if they are lucky but they want almost a week's salary, 3000 PHP minimum for long time, IE to sleep in my bed and make me sleep with one eye open. Others have offered me orgies with more alarm bells than an alarm bell factory would have.

I find all those chats interesting homework so one better knows what to avoid.

Of course, I know I will get cheaper than this by scouring around and hitting the provinces. The bigger issue is prostitutes do not know their role. The short time rate in Europe varies from 100 (7,000 PHP) down south to a totally ridiculous 300+ further north for some Brazilian fat ass. Last time I got short time for 1500 PHP (20) and I think that is being more than generous when you add in short time room etc.

As regards the outlandish prices quoted here for some scrubbed up field hand in a go go bar and a g string, forget about that. When I put it to Americans as to why they drop serious money in las Vegas (I abhor all gambling) and why they just don't go to the local spit and sawdust joint, they say they prefer las Vegas to live the life, to savour the vibes etc. Fuck that.

The way I see it I will be in Luzon for a period of time with two basic carnal needs: 1. Pump and dump, which entails paying 1500 PHP max. 2, anything special that might come along (not in a go go bar), whch must be handled on a case by case cost benefit analysis. Not puppy love but Theodora Street rub and tug massage parlours are not the best place to spend Valentine's day.You're right.
Upon analyzing the situation I came upon the conclusion that the inflation is due to the influx of pussies, not the real ones, but feminized newbies that treat the ho's like princesses. I'm not advocating to treat them bad, I respect them, but from reading most of the reports here I realized that this is what encourages the simple minded, easy influenceable ho's to have an attitude like supermodels. All this talk about she wants this, she wouldn't do that, blah blah blah, at first was comical, but for god's sake people, wake up, they are ho's, paid to fulfill your fantasies as long as they're the common type like fucking, sucking, kissing, if it's more than that then yes is up for discussion, but stop treating them like innocent untouched royalty. It's enough that the K imbeciles brought that upon us, don't exacerbate it.

[Goferring]

You're right.
Upon analyzing the situation I came upon the conclusion that the inflation is due to the influx of pussies, not the real ones, but feminized newbies that treat the ho's like princesses. I'm at home, a little bored, so I have fallen into the trap of watching a few of the Angeles' vloggers. I won't embarass anyone by naming names but a few are pretty much destitute and flat out affording a couple of beers. However, they are still dragging freelancers home. This has reinforced with me that hookers price and service based upon what ever the market, ie the John, will bare.

Some of the girls are literally living under a bridge with track marks up their arm yet still getting booked at 500 a go. But others are off work from 5000 STs at the gogos yet happy to accept 1000 for the afternoon and throw in cleaning up a shit hole apartment or cooking him lunch for free.

I've always been a supporter of guys spending their money however on whomever they want. Whatever makes them happy is perfectly fine with me. But assuming that outrageous rates for substandard sessions is the only option in AC, or anywhere else, is wildly wrong.

Rant off. 😁.

Enjoy. G.

[Mr Enternational]

But others are off work from 5000 STs at the gogos yet happy to accept 1000 for the afternoon and throw in cleaning up a shit hole apartment or cooking him lunch for free.Meanwhile, there are guys who can not understand that this is a thing. In the business world it is called price discrimination. Just because McDonald's is able to sell a Big Mac in one place for $5, does not mean it will not sell a Big Mac in another place for $2. The girl understands the value of 1000 pesos, whereas most foreigners don't.


Why would a girl who can make 5000 in less than an hour give it for 700 to Thai men? Do Thai men feed her some magic potion? These girls do not even do Thai men, except for some "boyfriend" to whom they put out for free (not for puny 700 baht).

[Jarango]

I'm at home, a little bored, so I have fallen into the trap of watching a few of the Angeles' vloggers. I won't embarass anyone by naming names but a few are pretty much destitute and flat out affording a couple of beers. However, they are still dragging freelancers home. This has reinforced with me that hookers price and service based upon what ever the market, ie the John, will bare.

Some of the girls are literally living under a bridge with track marks up their arm yet still getting booked at 500 a go. But others are off work from 5000 STs at the gogos yet happy to accept 1000 for the afternoon and throw in cleaning up a shit hole apartment or cooking him lunch for free..Very interesting post. Of course, elasticity has to be taken into account as not all of us will bonk Skid Row's finest (yhough I have bonked hookers who jacked up in front of me). There are fantasists here. On more than one occasion, I have brought home women totally down who slept the sleep of the dead (I don; t spot that in advance, so shame on me). There are lots of freelancers barely surviving and the bar world is like one of those birds' nests where the weak get tossed to the wolves Darwin style. I've seen it.

The locals are not paying Walking Street prices which are, by definition, tourist prices for scrubbed up farm hands.

There are rough and ready hookers around Roman Hotel behind Johnnys but I try to avoid them even in the day. Ditto those outside Phillies in the late morning who are still there from the night before.

Though I am sociologically interested in the track mark lot abnd those who film them, at this stage, I can do without. Online bonks is the way to go.

[A Traveler]

Streetwalkers are not my thing, but they are available here. Every evening there is a lady sitting on the sidewalk on the walk from One Euphoria to Red Street. There are ladies on the sidewalk outside of Phillies. Some of them seem to have sexy slim bodies, but when you see them up close they have 40 or 50+ faces. Different strokes for different folks. I prefer girls in their twenties, and the bars are an opportunity to quickly scope out a lot of girls, and note the ones I'm interested in. Many of the girls are "average" but I always see one or two I am interested in. While I am here, I don't have the patience to spend hours chatting with freelancers online, waiting around for them to show up (they are often very late), and being disappointed that they don't look like their pictures. I will do that in a place like Cebu or Manila, but I feel like the reason to come to this place is the bars.

There were some lookers in Q Bar, and one was a stunner. Q Bar is Western managed and fun. According to another forum, Crystal Palace has reopened and has some pretties, so I plan to visit tonight. They also say Hi Quality is "Western friendly. " I have always avoided that place because I thought it was a Korean-style take out brothel. I'll check it out too.

[Goferring]

On more than one occasion, I have brought home women totally down who slept the sleep of the dead (I don; t spot that in advance, so shame on me). There are lots of freelancers barely surviving and the bar world is like one of those birds' nests where the weak get tossed to the wolves Darwin style. I've seen it.Nothing wrong with a Walk on the Wild Side. I don't actively court girls from skid row but I do have a weakness for the opposite end of the spectrum. Pole dancers are my kriptonite but, the same as junkies, emotional stability and sanity don't rank high on their skill set. I have had the odd apparently normal girl duck out to powder her nose, return, and then go absolutely nuts due to the after effects. Some have resulted in trashed rooms and security being called but others were so comical to be enjoyable.

Yes, Darwin is alive and well on the Strip and amongst the girls. Unfortunately Julia Roberts isn't.

Enjoy. G.

[Goferring]

Meanwhile, there are guys who can not understand that this is a thing. In the business world it is called price discrimination. Just because McDonald's is able to sell a Big Mac in one place for $5, does not mean it will not sell a Big Mac in another place for $2. The girl understands the value of 1000 pesos, whereas most foreigners don't.True but don't forget we can mix it up too. I'm a Cheap Charlie who dines mostly on bargain provincial pussy.

That doesn't stop me enjoying a baller night occasionally when I'm back in the big smoke.

G.

[Jarango]

Mr Entertainment apart, many of you confuse the bright lights and neon of las Vegas with the real thing. The bar girls and go go girls are scrubbed up field hands wearing cheap dresses and garish makeup to look upscale and to get clowns to drop cash in their establishments. If guys want to play those one armed bandits, good luck to them.

The street walkers don't have a cover charge and plenty of them are fit for purpose. Of course, the back streets are different and muggings and phone snatches are a way of life, and the little rugby children are light fingered and are probably in on various scams as well. Angeles is a tourist trap, la Vegas without the glitz, tourist prices without the sites.

I will be prowling walking St Friday night. Freelancers beware.

[PNWGentleman]

Streetwalkers are not my thing, but they are available here. Every evening there is a lady sitting on the sidewalk on the walk from One Euphoria to Red Street. There are ladies on the sidewalk outside of Phillies. Some of them seem to have sexy slim bodies, but when you see them up close they have 40 or 50+ faces. Different strokes for different folks. I prefer girls in their twenties, and the bars are an opportunity to quickly scope out a lot of girls, and note the ones I'm interested in. Many of the girls are "average" but I always see one or two I am interested in. While I am here, I don't have the patience to spend hours chatting with freelancers online, waiting around for them to show up (they are often very late), and being disappointed that they don't look like their pictures. I will do that in a place like Cebu or Manila, but I feel like the reason to come to this place is the bars.

There were some lookers in Q Bar, and one was a stunner. Q Bar is Western managed and fun. According to another forum, Crystal Palace has reopened and has some pretties, so I plan to visit tonight. They also say Hi Quality is "Western friendly. " I have always avoided that place because I thought it was a Korean-style take out brothel. I'll check it out too.Thank you for the valuable intel per se, I'll be there next month for the first time. Your preferences in the girls sounds similar to mine.

[Goferring]

many of you confuse the bright lights and neon of las Vegas with the real thing. The bar girls and go go girls are scrubbed up field hands wearing cheap dresses and garish makeup to look upscale and to get clowns to drop cash in their establishments. If guys want to play those one armed bandits, good luck to them.I'm on your side but don't forget that sometimes the bright lights can be entertainment in itself.

A night of mom's home cooking vs Michelin Stars?? It would be interesting to see how much of the $1000 meal pays for the ingredients vs the prime location, silver cutlery, Instafamous staff etc.

The same can be said for taking a freelancer to a hourly hire crash pad vs a night of drinking and groping at the clubs followed by a pretty girl in warpaint and a sexy dress following me home. The core service is the same but the path is very different.

Granted the days of AC being a riotous good night are long gone but you get the idea.

Enjoy. G.

[PNWGentleman]

I'm on your side but don't forget that sometimes the bright lights can be entertainment in itself.

A night of mom's home cooking vs Michelin Stars?? It would be interesting to see how much of the $1000 meal pays for the ingredients vs the prime location, silver cutlery, Instafamous staff etc..You only live once for sure.

[A Traveler]

I'm not here for a "fun night of drinking. " Heck, I've been asleep by 10 pm every night (except last night). It's been great. I'm here for one reason and one reason only: quickly identifying girls in their twenties I'm interested in, picking one I like and getting her home ASAP for boom boom. For me the bars are a convenient time saver where I can shop around until I find what I'm looking for.

I'm not sure about the freelancer scene here. With the demise of High Society there's not really a good venue that I know of to pick up freelancers. There's probably online action on Tan Tan, but for me, I'd rather be in a nicer city when I play the online game.

I visited Blue Whiskey at 6 pm, a take out brothel where some lady sits with me and points out girls. That's annoying when I'm not interested in the lineup, but I saw three I like. I never barfine in the first venue of the night, so I made a note to possibly return.

It's nice that Crystal Palace is open again, but for me these places are about the girls. There was nobody in my target demographic, so I didn't even finish my drink. Real St now has four bars I think, but none had staff that appealed to me.

I bought a drink for the stunner at Q Bar. A 19 year old baby free beauty. But she had a temporary ink tattoo on her chest, the worst place. I could overlook it, but she also had a snaggletooth so I released her. Many other pretties in Q Bar.

It was getting "late" for me, almost 9 pm LOL so I needed a quick hookup. Viking never disappoints, with a stage full of girls moving around. I found a pretty with the classic Filipina long black hair. She was 19 with a two year old. Baby's are pretty common and I'm always surprised when I find one without. She was very pretty and friendly so I took her out. I was not disappointed. Very cute girl, only minor belly damage and very passionate boom boom. She even hung around for a couple hours and acted like she liked me. I'll probably repeat. Hopefully I can repeat with the beautiful 18-year-old baby free future flight attendant tonight.

[Old And Ugly]

True but don't forget we can mix it up too. I'm a Cheap Charlie who dines mostly on bargain provincial pussy.

That doesn't stop me enjoying a baller night occasionally when I'm back in the big smoke.

G.Same here, the fact that in the province its free, or almost free, don't deter me from paying 5 k in a bar in AC. Totally different things, that don't even remotely mix. But that's my limit, even if it doesn't matter much to me 5 k or 10 k, I will never pay more than 5 k in a bar or max 3 k to a FL (has to be a special one), we are in the fucking PH, the armpit of the world where people work all day for 2-300 peso, if they are lucky to find a job, it is just insane to spend more, just like going to McDonalds and they will have a separate menu with triple prices for the same stuff, and you choose to order from that instead of the regular menu, even when there is no difference in service, quality, or speed.

5 K in a bar is to cover their additional expenses (they were doing fine when BF was 2. 5 K just a few years back, but whatever...) and 3 k for a FL is an outrageous sum that can make an otherwise shy student lose her mind to overcome an otherwise unsolvable financially situation.

[Goferring]

Same here, the fact that in the province its free, or almost free, don't deter me from paying 5 k in a bar in AC.Grandma was correct: "Save where you can so that you can spend where you want".

Who knew that she was talking about $20 hookers?

[Mr Enternational]

Mr Entertainment apart, many of you confuse the bright lights and neon of las Vegas with the real thing. The bar girls and go go girls are scrubbed up field hands wearing cheap dresses and garish makeup to look upscale and to get clowns to drop cash in their establishments.But that is many guys' thing, whereas I prefer the raw girl. Before covid, here in Thailand one board member would go to the gogos every night blowing tons of money. Then covid happened and it stopped. As of now I have been on the Thai Friendly app 18 years and had always said on here that you can get chicks for 1000. People always said how the chicks must be ugly or whatever. So because no gogos during covid, he finally got online and he saw a gogo chick he had once paid 5000 to. She was willing to come over for 1000. He could not believe it. But when the regular her showed up in pajamas and a baseball cap, he was turned off. He realized it was the club glitz and the chick all dolled up that did it for him, not the girl in particular.

But I had always said these are the same chicks you see out in the daytime. There is no secret dungeon that all the stunners are held in during the day and can only go to a gogo through a tunnel at night. You can take damn near any chick you find in public and doll her up yourself for a fraction of the price.

At a daytime gentlemen's club I fucked a chick for 1000 baht. She said in the evening she leaves early to go to her night job. I said why do you have to go so early? She said because they do her hair and makeup before work. It was one of those 10,000 baht gogos. So I paid 1000, while a mf who insists he has to see her under party lights and hair and makeup done pays 10,000. If that is your thing.

Just like a fancy restaurant. You can go to the grocery store and cook the exact same stuff yourself for a fraction of the price. But because the restaurant puts in on a fancy plate and has the place decorated so well, the price of that basic food just went up exponentially.

[A Traveler]

My trip is winding down and I have had a fun time. I will return next year. Pretty girls can be found if you spend time vising a few bars. The more time you spend here, the better your experience, as you have more chances to find what you're looking for. If you only visit for a weekend, you may be disappointed if you visited the "wrong" bars. Good bars on this trip have been Q Bar, Champaign, Viking, Acadia, Atlantis and Avalon. For me "good" means pretty girls. Some of these bars might seem "boring" with nothing going on, but if there is a pretty girl on stage she is available for take out, so the bar is "good" in my book.

Angeles City is all about girly bars, where you pick out a girl you like on stage, and pay 5,000 for the privilege of taking her home for boom boom, probably ST. If you get to know a girl, LT or cheaper daytime visits might be on the table. If you do not enjoy girly bars, you probably will not enjoy this place. There's no other attractions here. No beach, the mall sucks, the food sucks. It's all about the girly bars. There's not even a good pickup nightclub for freelancers that I know of. High Society is long gone, and I heard Mega Dance is not really set up for mingling. You might be able to find girls online and cut out the middle man, but I feel like I would prefer to be in a nicer place like Cebu if I were doing that.

I'm writing from the perspective of a guy alone, just looking to quickly hook up with hot girls in their twenties. If you have friends here, it might be fun to party and get drunk. But I have a commitment back home and have to wake up early to make a phone call every morning. So my mode of operating has been to go out at 5 or 6 pm, stay mostly or totally sober, find a girl in her twenties that has the look I like, chat with her over one drink asking her to barfine when her drink is nearly finished, get her home for boom boom ASAP and be asleep by ten or eleven. For me the bars are simply take out brothels. This method has been successful for me, and I have been able to find enough pretty girls in their early twenties to satisfy me.

I'm happy with the 19 year old Viking girl and will repeat with her tonight. Sometimes it's nice to have a known quantity rather that rolling the dice with a new girl.

[Jarango]

It is late Sunday evening here in Angeles. So far, I have witnessed a bad motorbike / jeepney accident crossing MacArthur from MacDo in Walking Street, which I have been up and down from 8 am to 4 am.

8 am: Koreans lining up outside Normas to change money. Their drivers drop vans full of them there, and also women to work at Ace Gogo. It is a strange Mafia type thing that ferries gogo hookers in vans and tinted window cars. The Koreans tend to hit the sack early and it was all Western grand das at 4 am with their adopted grandchildren / bed partners.

Sex was on sale all day and night, with a candy street vendor offering a roll in the hay for 3 k, saying she had no sex in 11 years.

Some of the late morning hookers were glammed up but looked bad as they had probably been up all night with no customers.

Plenty of action around 10 pm. When I asked some dubious folk if they were ladies or ladyboys, they lifted their skirts to show their lack of of a sausage. Several did that and a gang of women opposite Phillies stripped one of their mates naked for a joke. Real wife material.

I ended up going to Mabalcat by grab with two Samar teens. Their place was tiny and housed five. I got a grab motorbike out of it as I never could have found my way out otherwise. Not recommended. Keep it simple stupid.

Then there are the Indians, gangs of them prowling about like in Pattaya. One of them sat alone in a small bar for 6 hours nursing a beer and watching videos and talking with his pals on WhatsApp, making it impossible for anyone else to relax there.

They are, of course, digging up and resetting Walking St. Some things never change.

[Goferring]

Plenty of action around 10 pm. When I asked some dubious folk if they were ladies or ladyboys, they lifted their skirts to show their lack of of a sausage. Several did that and a gang of women opposite Phillies stripped one of their mates naked for a joke. Real wife material.

So no truth to the rumours that police have run off the freelancers from standing out front of Phillies?

G.

[Jarango]

So no truth to the rumours that police have run off the freelancers from standing out front of Phillies?vG.There is an ongoing effort to remove the loiterers from in front of Phillies but it is like fishermen trying to chase away seagulls. There were plenty of hookers around the actual entrance and the side street there. The front part where the punters sit was relatively free but I did engage in some bartering there.

The worst thing is when they crowd you, so you have to wonder if they are going to dip you. Not conducive to conducting the art of the deal.

Ladyboys not so much in evidence though some of them may be trying to pass themselves off as women for their own reasons.

When I joined the queue outside Norma's at 8 am to change money, I was trying to be Mr Gentleman, leaving this Pinay babe go in front of me. But she was only waiting for her Korean owner, who was too engrossed talking to his mate to pay any attention to her.

That reminds me of a memoir from the Korean war where an advancing Yank met a Korean with his wife dutifully following 20 paces behind. When the same Yank met the same Korean when the Yanks were retreating, the woman was walking 20 paces in front, not behind, the man. When the Yank asked "why the change", the Korean replied "Chinese mines" Sexism may well be their middle name.

Here, they have a cash and carry system that works for them and I would not be surprised if their mafias had booklets of the women to chose from back in Korea town.

This is just a simple meat market with the Korans being major bulk buyers and folks like me picking up the scraps, which is what a lot of the freelance leftovers are.

The main long term trend I would say is the arrival of Indians.

[Old And Ugly]

............. There's no other attractions here. No beach, the mall sucks, the food sucks. It's all about the girly bars. There's not even a good pickup nightclub for freelancers that I know of. High Society is long gone, and I heard Mega Dance is not really set up for mingling. You might be able to find girls online and cut out the middle man, but I feel like I would prefer to be in a nicer place like Cebu if I were doing that.............There are plenty of places with whatever food you're looking for, western chains, or unique boutique restaurants, american, french, german, italian, mexican, sea food, and a plethora of asian ones. Just like in any other major city, but they are not on the Red St.

Plenty of day trips to interesting places, hiking, shooting, ATVs, horse riding, you name it, no beach. There are museums also, but in the PH other than Manila sucks, but I guess not many come to PH for culturalization.

I know you're living today, but if you need info for your next trip, ask about what you're looking for and maybe such a place exists, PH is full of surprises (and garbage).

Do you have lots of intel about Cebu and whatever is nice there? I live in the Cebu province, but I didn't spend more time than absolutely necessary in the big city, been there a thousand times but I wasn't able to find what everybody is praising about it, beside the shitty bars and KTVs around maxillom / dionisio and the hoards of LBs around Mango Sq. The non pro pickup scene is about the same as everywhere else, and in my opinion less than AC because at lease here you can't offend anyone.

I keep thinking that I'm missing something that everyone knows about, and I don't about Cebu. The online action to me seems the same as everywhere else in rapport to the size of the population.

[A Traveler]

There are plenty of places with whatever food you're looking for, western chains, or unique boutique restaurants, american, french, german, italian, mexican, sea food, and a plethora of asian ones. Just like in any other major city, but they are not on the Red St.

Plenty of day trips to interesting places, hiking, shooting, ATVs, horse riding, you name it, no beach. There are museums also, but in the PH other than Manila sucks, but I guess not many come to PH for culturalization.

I know you're living today, but if you need info for your next trip, ask about what you're looking for and maybe such a place exists, PH is full of surprises (and garbage).

Do you have lots of intel about Cebu and whatever is nice there? I live in the Cebu province, but I didn't spend more time than absolutely necessary in the big city, been there a thousand times but I wasn't able to find what everybody is praising about it, beside the shitty bars and KTVs around maxillom / dionisio and the hoards of LBs around Mango Sq. The non pro pickup scene is about the same as everywhere else, and in my opinion less than AC because at lease here you can't offend anyone..Thanks for the tips Old, you're right, there are restaurants and activities beyond Red Street. I know there's a way to go up the volcano. I should clarify that I tend to be "lazy" here, spending the days in my condo working on my computer, then venturing out for girls at 5 pm. I'm not really motivated to visit attractions or do activities. I just wish I could walk to more things besides Korean restaurants and girly bars. Grab does expand my options for food. I discovered Wall Street Wraps, which is incredible if you want something healthier.

Cebu City is no paradise, but I liked how I could walk around the neighborhood and discover many local restaurants and some coffee shops. There are a few malls in walking distance. Malls are malls, but they are better than SM Clark. IT Park is interesting and has Sugbo Mercado for food. It's pretty effortless to take a bus up to Tops. They have modern jeepneys, so it's easier to get around on public transportation. It's a sort of pleasant place to live, but yeah, not terribly nice to visit. And as a bonus horny call center girls live there.

[A Traveler]

I've got a few more nights left. The trip has been a success. I have devoted only four or five hours a night to the hobby. In that time I have been able to scope out dozens of girls, pick one I like and pay to take her home for boom boom. I've been in bed by by ten or eleven, which is fine by me. I'm not looking to party here.

While it is indeed a shame that the bars are not packed with naked twenty year olds, young pretties can be found. There's usually one or two girls in my target demographic in each bar. Some bars are better than others, so if you don't know, it might take you some time to figure out where to go. The more time you have here, the better your experience.

Last night I went back to I think Whiskey? Some of the bars keep changing names. The girl I saw the other night was not there, but a twenty one year old cutie was smiling at me. The annoying lady pushing girls assured me she was baby free, but I don't trust a word those people say ("she gives good blow job. " How would she know that?

I wasn't really feeling the need for a girl so I made a note and went to the bar currently called Bliss. All the girls had red gowns on. There was one who fit my specifications, but again, I didn't really need a girl.

I usually avoid the small, narrow Korean bars because they suck, but I poked my head in Quality, Bad Boy, Bar Nana, 123, January, Lofty, Cherry. It's possible to find pretty girls in these places, but I hate to go in them if they have no customers and all the girls are sitting around, which was the case.

Since the trip is winding down, I'll repeat with the nineteen year old Viking girl tonight. She's a known quantity and it will be satisfying. Three sessions is probably enough, so maybe I'll ask if she has a friend she could bring next time. Either she'll be offended and I'll never see her again, which will free me up for the girl I saw last night. Or she'll accept. Win win.

[Jarango]

So which is worse, the kids tearing about with no lights on their bikes, the motor bikes or the trikes. The other night, at the MacArthur crossing opposite MacDo in Walking St, I witnessed a trike fuck up a motor cyclist really good. I reckon the motor bike man got at lest one badly broken leg as he was stuck under his bike for at least an hour, as 1000 cell phones IG'd the happy event. The trike had crossed through the pedestrian crossing from the Macdo side to the other and wham bam. I nearly got swiped by a triker doing the same BS tonight. The traffic is always so heavy and as many of these fuckers obey no rules known to God or man, it is a wonder there are not more casualties.

Walking St was dead Monday 10 pm. I had walked up half of it before I met anyone who could be called human life.

One important development at Phillies is one of the 2 some I went with a few nights ago was sipping orange juice inside the door and spotted and followed me, before I could shake the pair of them off. I later saw them following another guy up Teodoro St, It is a slow night. So they are sitting inside the bar where the punters should sit. There goes the neighbourhood. (Of, their orange drinks were allowed stand as they went on the hunt).

One important point about my time with them in Mabacabat is, when I was set to leave I could hear 6 year old urchins outside yelling fuck me in my pussy. That lady showed me and, I presume the kids, videos of her pussy as she chanted fuck me in my pussy. She lives in their midst and makes a point of letting them know what she does. These ladies are not discreet and that is a red flag.

I was also offered rates of 1.5 and 1 (see, I am talking like them) by another brace of ladies, one of whom I formerly met a few nights ago.

Now there is an interesting thing about those two, whose clothes were on the cheap bargain basement side and who could really do with a sartorial upgrade.

Both looked just ever so unhealthily thin and even though I did ask them if they were ladyboys, they could be either that, or just sick. They certainly did not look like they could handle a long day in the rice paddies.

Sad to relate to Don Malo but these ladies are not keepers. They would depress a saint and, if he is looking for a saint, he could go to church to increase his odds of finding one.

And them to top off, there are the guys who hang around, not just the fake Viagra sellers. Who would like one of them as a brother in law or even to share the good wife with?

[Old And Ugly]

So which is worse, the kids tearing about with no lights on their bikes, the motor bikes or the trikes. The other night, at the MacArthur crossing opposite MacDo in Walking St, I witnessed a trike fuck up a motor cyclist really good. I reckon the motor bike man got at lest one badly broken leg as he was stuck under his bike for at least an hour, as 1000 cell phones IG'd the happy event. The trike had crossed through the pedestrian crossing from the Macdo side to the other and wham bam. I nearly got swiped by a triker doing the same BS tonight. The traffic is always so heavy and as many of these fuckers obey no rules known to God or man, it is a wonder there are not more casualties.

......I don't dare to drive in the city, in the country side where I live, I have no choice, but I had it all figured out, and the same applies to the city traffic, (just at the first glance is not so obvious).

There is only one traffic rule, and is the only one that applies: You go where you need to go, the rest of the participants in the traffic don't matter, just disregard their existence, Therefore you can go against the traffic, into the traffic, change direction at any time, cut off, do u-turns, etc, all without looking or stopping. Here in the country side where I am is just easier to discover this only rule that governs the whole motorized movement around the Philippines because is not crowded and you can observe the individual drivers movements singled out, that may be more difficult to see in the chaos of the big city.

Some have argued that a second rule applies: the larger vehicle has priority, but upon careful looking at what's happening on the street, you'll find out that that's not the case, not even by far.

[A Traveler]

The long narrow Korean bars are for quick hookups and are no fun if you don't pick a girl within two minutes. Normally I prefer to take my time and scope out the girls at a fun bar like Q Bar or Shooters. But last night I was in the mood for a quick hook up. I poked my head into one of the cookie cutter narrow K bars, and the stage was full of standing, active girls, as well as customers. Two nights ago when I looked there were like five sitting girls and no customers, so I passed. Tonight I went in.

I quickly saw a girl I liked smiling at me. Cute face and huge boobs. While not impossible to find in the Philippines, big boobs are a rare commodity here. She was nice and easy to talk to. 23 with no baby. She explained that she was on day shift, 9 am to 7 pm. The reason there were so many girls (and presumably customers) is the night shift comes at five, so for two hours there are a lot of girls. We had good chemistry, so I paid bar, took her to Jolibees, then back home for boom boom. She hung out for a couple hours after the action and talked to me and gave me her attention, as opposed to watching Tic Toc videos, like the Viking 19 year old. A satisfying session.

Those bars open at 9 am. I never considered taking a girl that early, but she said if I took her tomorrow she would spend all day with me. So it's kind of like a way to get a LT, but you're awake the whole time. Maybe something to consider for future trips.

[PNWGentleman]

Those bars open at 9 am. I never considered taking a girl that early, but she said if I took her tomorrow she would spend all day with me. So it's kind of like a way to get a LT, but you're awake the whole time. Maybe something to consider for future trips.Thanks again. Remember the name of the KBar?

Safe travels.

[Docwiltro]

I feel a lot safer walking the back streets at 3 am in the Philippines rather than doing the same in London, Sydney or LA.

Funnily enough, the most vocal about the dangers of Mindanao are other Philippinos. I think they are more scared of going there than we are.

Enjoy.

G.I used to stay at the old Sunset Garden on Malabanias, and at 10 pm, they shut the two steel doors to the front entrance and locked them. Outside, there was a guard with a 12 gauge. Anyone who thinks getting off the beaten path in AC is just a stroll in the park ought to try a midnight walk from Perimeter Rd down Malabanias to Josefa St and then over to Narciso and then, up to Fields. Any volunteers?

[Old And Ugly]

I used to stay at the old Sunset Garden on Malabanias, and at 10 pm, they shut the two steel doors to the front entrance and locked them. Outside, there was a guard with a 12 gauge. Anyone who thinks getting off the beaten path in AC is just a stroll in the park ought to try a midnight walk from Perimeter Rd down Malabanias to Josefa St and then over to Narciso and then, up to Fields. Any volunteers?Did that, and many more, also used to live in Camachiles for a short time when I moved into my then GF's house next to the wall to CRK (every time I go to the airport i remember it, looking at it from the other side of the wall), but I wouldn't recommend that to anybody. Just stick to the Red St.

[Pussycat123]

Then there are the Indians, gangs of them prowling about like in Pattaya. One of them sat alone in a small bar for 6 hours nursing a beer and watching videos and talking with his pals on WhatsApp, making it impossible for anyone else to relax there.
.So they have arrived, huh. I guess that was going to happen since they made them visa free.

[Jarango]

5 pm can be a good time to go window shopping as there are plenty of little hookers toddling off to their bar shifts. They pull up in trikes, bikes and many walk. The best of the teenagers look tired, and hard, which is probably what getting poked regularly by a string of grand dads does to tender flesh. Wait till the Indians start pulling off their wholesale 10 for 1 deals. I have already heard complaints.

I know many of you don't look at the mantlepiece when you are poking the fire but it is a shame to see beauty fade so quickly. It would be nice to marry one of these budding Medusas, Dom Palo?

Three is quite a good looking nutter doing the rounds recently, curly hair, most likely sleeps rough, black with left over hooker gear, She was dancing away to herself, lost in her own psychotic world, where many others will be soon enough.

I checked out some of the ads for dancers in case any of you walruses are interested. The pay seems to be about 500 PHP a shift and a day off if you meet your quota of flaccid grand dads. Judging by the amount of ads for "dancers", mamasans and hookers, there must be a big turnover.

I can see the benefits of working without a grasping mamas san, though the downsides are equally obvious.

Any of you guys marry a hooker? Don Palo, how about taking one for the team?

The key here is to have lots of non hooker stuff on the go.

I'll be back at 10 om, another hot time.

[Old And Ugly]

So they have arrived, huh. I guess that was going to happen since they made them visa free.They been there for a while, but were the ones from Singapore, then I think something happened and I didn't see any for a while. The restaurant at Royal Amsterdam used to be indian before mexican and now closed. Mama India still there next to Las Vegas Club, and there were a few more now gone. If they're back more restaurants will open probably.

Their specialty is gang bang, usually 5 on 1.

[Chocha Monger]

They been there for a while, but were the ones from Singapore, then I think something happened and I didn't see any for a while. The restaurant at Royal Amsterdam used to be indian before mexican and now closed. Mama India still there next to Las Vegas Club, and there were a few more now gone. If they're back more restaurants will open probably.

Their specialty is gang bang, usually 5 on 1.Do you think that some bars will start catering to the 5 on 1 service model at the current 1 on 1 bar fine rates? Fractional bar fines would be a new concept in AC. For a 5,000 pesos bar fine, each punter would pay 1,000 pesos to join the shared ride.

[TJ222]

I've always veered toward AC in the past as I felt the Manila hotels and ST / LT wasn't a great value, but after recently rtff, are AC bfs now comparable to Manila?

[Old And Ugly]

I've always veered toward AC in the past as I felt the Manila hotels and ST / LT wasn't a great value, but after recently rtff, are AC bfs now comparable to Manila?Nope, still less than half price.

[TJ222]

Nope, still less than half price.Thanks, appreciate the up to date intel.

[TomGrand]

Nope, still less than half price.Out of curiosity, how does the quality compare? About the same?

[Goferring]

but it is a shame to see beauty fade so quickly....

Three is quite a good looking nutter doing the rounds recently, curly hair, most likely sleeps rough, black with left over hooker gear, She was dancing away to herself, lost in her own psychotic world, where many others will be soon enough..The prettiest and purest have the furthest to fall. Sadly, it's a common story.

I've had many girls point at a methed out train wreck and describe how she was once the prettiest and busiest girl in town. That was before her head turned to jello.

G.

[Old And Ugly]

Out of curiosity, how does the quality compare? About the same?In MNL they tend to take care of themselves a bit more, maybe because most of them are just poor city girls from the slums, and were exposed to TV and adds al their life, so they are slightly more "sophisticated".

In AC are mostly Samar girls from the rice fields, brought to the big city where they discovered the wonderful taste of Jollibee's spaghetti with ketchup and restaurants with unlimited rice, but because in AC is a larger pool of Miss Philippines wannabees the number of good looking ones is about the same. Other people may have different opinions, but I guess is all about which place makes you feel more comfortable.

[Jarango]

Do you think that some bars will start catering to the 5 on 1 service model at the current 1 on 1 bar fine rates? Fractional bar fines would be a new concept in AC. For a 5,000 pesos bar fine, each punter would pay 1,000 pesos to join the shared ride.Though I would be the last to speak for our Indian friends, you raise an interesting point here. The Hygiene Centre is only doing 25% of the business it did only a few years ago and bars are only hiring 25% of the women they did a few years ago. Times are hard, so 5 4 1 deals might be a thing. I am being offered 1 k and 1. 5 k for short time fun, maybe long time too. Imagine Indians with their persistence and their tried and trusted haggling techniques. The woman will figure she is trading a renewable commodity, to wit her pussy so why not get 1. 5 out of these cheap Charlies?(full 1.5 if all five are satisfied and they can always exchange STIs on a 1 4 5 basis).

I went malling today to SM, looking for pretty shot assistants to rent. Bity of a bum steer as only one I spoke tp took my fancy. She is on 500 PHP a day and wears braces, which is a deal breaker.

I'd sat over 50% of the shops are fast food joints and malling here is just a chance to go out with the kids, girl friends, whatever. A bit slow in the hooker dept, sadly.

I'll be up Walking St again tonight, Maybe pretend to watch some football.

[Nite_Runner]

Fellas,

Heads to AC next week, and I am looking for a place to watch the Super Bowl. Any suggestions on which bars might be better than others to watch the game?

N_R.

[D Cups]

Fellas,

Heads to AC next week, and I am looking for a place to watch the Super Bowl. Any suggestions on which bars might be better than others to watch the game?

N_R.Phillies. Giant screen TV. Food is OK. Waitresses ok. Hookers hang outside. Get there early of course.

[Jarango]

All the sports bars such as Phillies will show it, the only problem being when it overlaps with other, more important sports like rugby or football, in which case it might be shown in a side screen. Last night, some rugby guys had their noses out of joint as they had to move to a smaller screen to make way for Arsenal v Leeds, some of which I half watched as I with Lin, a 19 year old shark.

Lin accosted me at the side of Phillies where I told the viagra lads to take a run and jump. Lin told me to go easy on them as they are (nasty) Muslims. When I told her I was not up for heavy bonking she kindly suggested I treat her to a 50 PHP iced coffee in Phillies, to which I readily agreed.

Lin is about 5'8", 171 cm or thereabouts, slim, well dressed and the mind of a calculating shark. As she also vapes and had tatts, that did not help.

She told me she is a first year nursing student (aren't they all) and had visited almost all of ASEAN. When I asked her how much she had, she said 700,000 PHP. She showed me her massage republic ad, where she scores 25,000 PHP a pop and I asked her why she was offering herself to me for 1 K. Bored, she said, as if I was going to be a barrel of laughs for her.

She finished her ladies drink (50 PHP) and told me she had to go back outside to score a date. Nice lady, if you want to bonk a shark ultra short time.

[Chocha Monger]

Though I would be the last to speak for our Indian friends, you raise an interesting point here. The Hygiene Centre is only doing 25% of the business it did only a few years ago and bars are only hiring 25% of the women they did a few years ago. Times are hard, so 5 4 1 deals might be a thing. I am being offered 1 k and 1. 5 k for short time fun, maybe long time too. Imagine Indians with their persistence and their tried and trusted haggling techniques. The woman will figure she is trading a renewable commodity, to wit her pussy so why not get 1. 5 out of these cheap Charlies?(full 1.5 if all five are satisfied and they can always exchange STIs on a 1 4 5 basis).

I went malling today to SM, looking for pretty shot assistants to rent. Bity of a bum steer as only one I spoke tp took my fancy. She is on 500 PHP a day and wears braces, which is a deal breaker.

I'd sat over 50% of the shops are fast food joints and malling here is just a chance to go out with the kids, girl friends, whatever. A bit slow in the hooker dept, sadly.

I'll be up Walking St again tonight, Maybe pretend to watch some football.Each monger can buy a train ticket for 1,500 php. Whenever 5 tickets are sold, the mama yells out, "All aboard!" and the train leaves for the hotel.

[Nite_Runner]

Phillies. Giant screen TV. Food is OK. Waitresses ok. Hookers hang outside. Get there early of course.Many thanks. I will heed your advice and arrive early, as I am sure it will be packed. Likely a 1:1 ratio of hookers to customers. .

N_R.

[Goferring]

She finished her ladies drink (50 PHP) and told me she had to go back outside to score a date. Nice lady, if you want to bonk a shark ultra short time.I don't know why but I've always respected and been attracted to girls who knows their place in life. In a industry and location where scamming has become the norm and you know that every word spoken is a lie, it's refreshing to find a girl whose attitude is more 'what you see is what you get'.

I remember a Cebuana who had no illusions about her role in life. There was no 'Girlfriend Experience's or 'Love You Longtime'. She was there to fuck me senseless, get paid and leave. End Of Story. No mind games and she did her job exceedingly well.

Enjoy. G.

[Cool]

With freelancers you have to worry about ROB, TS, hygiene. I've seen FL chicks that reasoned they wanted the same salary as Gogo girls.

[Jarango]

With freelancers you have to worry about ROB, TS, hygiene. I've seen FL chicks that reasoned they wanted the same salary as Gogo girls.Hookers rob. Most ladyboys are upfront and easy to spot if sober. Hygiene, ha ha. I've had freelancers insist on condoms and they even stole mine. You are of the misconception that go go girls come from different rice paddy. They do not. I have bonked go go girls, intermittent go go girls freelancing between gigs and ex go go girls I rescued from the gutter. Go go girls are usually the worst as they have notions and they have been fucked almost to death. Upside down, they are all the same.

[PhilJoy]

The prettiest and purest have the furthest to fall. Sadly, it's a common story.

I've had many girls point at a methed out train wreck and describe how she was once the prettiest and busiest girl in town. That was before her head turned to jello.

G.Quite right G.

In Sabang I used to have a girl called Victoria walk my place at Papa Freds every second trip who'd stop by to have a chat and a drink and organize her belongings in the small terrace area of the ground floor rooms, or to escape from a sudden downpour of rain. I asked the security guy if she was okay. Obviously homeless but harmless.

I also asked my ex-regular FL from the 'cafe' out the front of Big Apple about her.

She said Victoria was from a fairly wealthy background and was once one of the biggest earners in town, until it all turned to shit.

She still gave a great BJ though _ Phil.

[Jarango]

Wednesday's 10 pm approach to Walking St was guarded by MacArthur Highway, which can be fatal to the unwary punter as many are stealth drivers, avoiding the use of lights or rules of the road in the hope of upending a pedestrian.

The highlight of the first few blocks of Walking St was the armed raid on a bar, where AR toting police stood guard a viagra sellers and sundry beggars and prostitutes lounged about.

The reason the road is always being replaced is to keep the bribes flowing.

The next few blocks were characterised by scantily clad mothers of five with prison tattoos soliciting some of the human elephants waddling by. It is never a good idea to go too close to these creatures of the wild.

A quick check as far as Teodoro St and then back to take up a ring side position in Phillies where cricket was on the main screen and American football in the mega screen of the adjoining pub.

The wildlife action in the street outside was more to my liking. There are up to 12 guys guarding that corner up to the next corner and across the road to chase off the freelancers of either or of indeterminate sex. This is a cat and mouse where the predators, often elegantly dressed, swan by as often as opportunity allows them. Some said Hi to me and others said they knew me from Pinalove.

There was quite a bit of car action, with dubious folk getting in to them and others being disgorged. If you are in your 80's and sickly, there are plenty of your cohort here.

I got back from my sightseeing to my hotel at 12 midnight, just as other guests were heading off on their own safaris.

[TravelingMan3]

So I went out last night to until about midnight. Went to the former Paradise bar on red street don't remember the current name. Nothing really of note to point out other than ladyboys no longer hang out there. Only went to 3 gogo bars in order Vikings, Atlantis and Crystal Palace. Vikings wasn't that bad they had a few cute chicks slim nice ass from what I could tell as all the bars now wear those stupid dresses. Atlantis the chicks either just stand there or they are playing around with each other it's a terrible look. For as big as the place is only spotted one attractive lady I was with a chick so keep in mind didn't get prices or grade her attitude. A big deal was made about Crystal Palace reopening went by few customers and ugly chicks.

[TravelingMan3]

So second night even though it's not the focus of the trip I made an effort to visit the bars. Why I'm on a lot of forums and give my opinion on whether or not one should come here so like to have up to date information. So first stop was Lollipop it just missed. Something was just off. What I mean is there was a cute skinny chick but she was to skinny with zero body. Then there was a chick with a nice jiggly ass not fat but bad face. Finished my drinks and went to club XS. The positive was the ladies had more energy and were dancing but it was for the shows they were in. I'm not a fan of shows there just isn't a reason for them anymore to me. One thing of note is I saw a hot chick that head been bar fined already very attractive she was already in her street clothes so can't be a 100 percent sure but she had what seemed like a good body. That wasn't the note worthy part it was the fact that she was leaving with an Indian dude that would never happen in Pattaya as those dudes are on the bottem of the totem pole. Next was Baccara terrible. Then went to Vikings because I liked it the first night it was a disappointment didn't see any of the cute chicks from yesterday. They also had four ladyboys doing some type of show.

[A Traveler]

So second night even though it's not the focus of the trip I made an effort to visit the bars. Why I'm on a lot of forums and give my opinion on whether or not one should come here so like to have up to date information. So first stop was Lollipop it just missed. Something was just off. What I mean is there was a cute skinny chick but she was to skinny with zero body. Then there was a chick with a nice jiggly ass not fat but bad face. Finished my drinks and went to club XS. The positive was the ladies had more energy and were dancing but it was for the shows they were in. I'm not a fan of shows there just isn't a reason for them anymore to me. One thing of note is I saw a hot chick that head been bar fined already very attractive she was already in her street clothes so can't be a 100 percent sure but she had what seemed like a good body. That wasn't the note worthy part it was the fact that she was leaving with an Indian dude that would never happen in Pattaya as those dudes are on the bottem of the totem pole. Next was Baccara terrible. Then went to Vikings because I liked it the first night it was a disappointment didn't see any of the cute chicks from yesterday. They also had four ladyboys doing some type of show.It's true that if you only go out a few times, the place doesn't seem that great. Alas, the days of bars full of 20 year olds in bikinis are long gone. However, the more time you spend, the more the options open up. It took me about a week to start finding quality girls. After that I banged a 25 year old big boobs girl, a 22 year old bikini girl (yes, they still exist), a 20 year old dancer, and an 18 year old Instagram girl. There are hot girls in AC, you just have to be willing to spend some time to find them.

Some notes on your post. I noticed Lollipop seemed off this trip too.

The girls doing the choreographed dances are available same as everyone else. I saw a hot bodied dancer at Atlantis I liked, but I always thought the girls in uniforms doing dances were special. I asked a waitress and she confirmed everybody is available, so I asked her to please go get her for me. It was weird that she wouldn't talk to me (it almost seemed like she might have been deaf), but that was one of the hottest girls I ever banged.

You noted that Viking was good one night, and not so good the next. That is often the case, especially if you came later in the evening, when the prettiest girls have already been barfined. If you come during the time the day and night shifts are both there (often from 5-7, but different bars are on different schedules), the place will be packed with girls. Yes, Viking has at least one ladyboy doing a show, but she's easy to ignore.

[TravelingMan3]

So Thursday was a more relaxed night as I'm planning to hang out with a buddy who lives here tonight. Went to a few places Vikings not good then Atlantis there are a good number of chicks here so getting a look at them in the brief time your in the club could be difficult. I did however spot a just out of shape chick who had a nice ass but I wasn't interested in talking or interacting with the chick. Then on the way back to my hotel went to Brown Sugar which was one of the places I liked the most in years past but it was terrible like 7 ugly chicks. SS bar had the best looking chicks I'd seen since I've been here a conservative five hot ladies with 3 others who could be classified as cute.

[TravelingMan3]

I won't bore you with a report about my Friday and Saturday. Just that on Friday me and a buddy were hanging call two chicks who claim to be cherry girls so I see there still doing that bullshit but that turns so guys on. Other things of note Vikings has at least six ladyboys working if you don't want to get them off the street.

In the end I'd stay Angeles is worth a quick look. I was a harsh critic of the places but I will say there are enough cute chicks to keep you busy.

[Fred11]

Here my key learnings from Angeles this week.

1. I spent too much time reading this forum before going.

2. I like Angeles more than Manila.

3. I like the philosophy of 'A Traveller' and totally followed it.

4. There were some great girls of my target group: slim, young girls with small breasts.

1. Why too much time reading.

Angeles is super easy. One street. 200 m long or so. It really only takes 20 minutes to look into every single bar to get a full overview of each girl present.

There is only one single club into which I did not look, because 'buying 1 drink' was the condition to look in.

2. Angeles has the same number of girls as Burgos in Manila, but you get a better overview in Angeles. And in Angeles I found a few young, slim, small boobs girls, which I did not see at all in Manila (neither in Burgos, nor among the freelancers in Midnight Heaven).

Angeles starts at 5 pm (some bars 6 pm) which is great for either 2 rounds or for afternoon entertainment before a nice dinner.

3. Great philosophy of 'A Traveller'.

I also stayed in ABC Hotel. Expensive, but really good quality. Large, clean rooms, super service, great food and a few minutes walk away from the action.

Then I followed the same philosophy: Afternoon entertainment before enjoying a nice dinner.

Overall I tried 4 girls (NB: I have vasectomy, which increases the chance of girls allowing cm inside).

A. Champagne bar: 19 yo, no kids, exactly my style. Great DFK kissing, passionate, no condom, 2 rounds, not cm inside. Would do again (but the Whatsapp she gave me did not work).

B. Quality bar: I liked 2 girls, but one had a red bracelet (indicating her period). Very sweet 40 kg girl, 19 yo, no kids, a bit shy, was initially worried that I would be too big inside, nice kissing, but no DFK, no condom, cm inside. She wanted only 1 round, but I convinced her (with tip) of 2nd round. I repeated the next day before the bar opened.

C. Lofty A Gogo: 19 yo, with 1 yr old kid, great shape but breasts too big. Still had some milk. Initially with condom, but then we dropped it. Not cm inside. 2 rounds, Great kissing.

The. Viking; 26 yo but with amazing body (relatively tall, slim / small breasts). 8 yr old kid. This place has 2 types of girls: models and dancers. She is a dancer. Clearly experienced girl, maybe too much (was not sure whether she was overdoing and faking). But action was great. No condom. 2 rounds, cm inside. Lots of DFK.

Overall, I like Angeles for its early start (5 pm /6 pm). It' supereasy and fast to get a girl. Good selection (I am really picky). Much better than Burgos in Manila.

However, hygiene is a bit of an issue. Girls do not want to shower before action. I had to ask several times, and then they usually only washed the bottom part. Having some mints is handy as I like fresh smell when kissing.

P.S: I am 50 yo European and obviously take PREP and PEP. Price was always 5 k /5.5 k or 6 k including barfine (girls typically get half). I gave generous tips of 3 k and always announced right at the beginning that they will get a great tip if they make me happy. ABC Hotel is great (also great gym) and the only good choice if inside your budget.

Warning: Grab does not work for Manila-Angeles. So I took a totally overpriced airport taxi at 9 k. Return to Manila was 4 k. Sort your transport before you arrive in Manila.

Enjoy!

[Fred11]

Thank you. Your reports were super helpful and I followed the same 'afternoon action and then dinner & sleep' philosophy.



I've got a few more nights left. The trip has been a success. I have devoted only four or five hours a night to the hobby. In that time I have been able to scope out dozens of girls, pick one I like and pay to take her home for boom boom. I've been in bed by by ten or eleven, which is fine by me. I'm not looking to party here.

While it is indeed a shame that the bars are not packed with naked twenty year olds, young pretties can be found. There's usually one or two girls in my target demographic in each bar. Some bars are better than others, so if you don't know, it might take you some time to figure out where to go. The more time you have here, the better your experience.

Last night I went back to I think Whiskey? Some of the bars keep changing names. The girl I saw the other night was not there, but a twenty one year old cutie was smiling at me. The annoying lady pushing girls assured me she was baby free, but I don't trust a word those people say ("she gives good blow job. " How would she know that?.

[WestCoast1]

1. I spent too much time reading this forum before going.Sacrilege!

Kidding aside, good descriptive early report Fred. Hoping to see more of yours in the future.


Warning: Grab does not work for Manila-Angeles. So I took a totally overpriced airport taxi at 9 k. Return to Manila was 4 k. Sort your transport before you arrive in Manila.
Several of us have reported about BeeWay Travel (has a website for contact), which provides p3500 service from either NAIA or your NCR hotel, direct to your AC hotel (paid in cash at the end of the ride). Discreet quiet drivers (no radio unless you ask for it). BeeWay also does visa extensions.

[PNWGentleman]

Sacrilege!

Kidding aside, good descriptive early report Fred. Hoping to see more of yours in the future.

Several of us have reported about BeeWay Travel (has a website for contact), which provides p3500 service from either NAIA or your NCR hotel, direct to your AC hotel (paid in cash at the end of the ride). Discreet quiet drivers (no radio unless you ask for it). BeeWay also does visa extensions.Local international airport is Clark.

[PIpimp]

This must be the "massage week", while waiting for the GF to arrive, I got messaged by another massage girl, this one is a 11 out of 10, I wonder how nobody wifed her yet, an absolute stunner from an obscure place on a far away street servicing mostly casinos, I was messaging her the day before with no reply, She said she was sleeping all day long, but she wanted to see me, low season, no customers, the usual. I told her I cannot because the GF is coming, I got few crying emojis in reply, and I thought it was the end of it.

The GF calls me to tell me that the flight is delayed 2 hours, then right away due to my newly discovered telepathic powers, the massage girl texts me again with some more emojis, and hearts and shit like that, I told her to be at my hotel in 5 minutes if she needs my assistance, because we are under time constraints, got downstairs, and 15 minutes later she arrived on her motorbike, no helmet new blonde hair in the wind with a body tight black uniform on her, looking like some sort of hells angels "support" team member. Left the bike to the security guy to tuck away and got up to my room where we did the thing, she came 3-4 times, me zero. I know her since she was 19 and a virgin, now she's 24 I think and she looks better and better as she's aging. With just a half hour to spare until the ETA, she showered and left, being short on pesos, I gave her $100 and explained to her what to do with it. She's the best looking girl I've seen in PH, so I been paying her to keep her interested in an old ugly fucker, and it's all worth it, I may have to boost the payment if needed in the future.

Upon close inspection, I found blonde hairs (GF is red now), and a lipstick stain on the bedsheets from when she was in doggy style on the edge of the bed, biting the bed. I quickly looked for the housecleaning team, and I found them on next floor, gave them 200 P and told them to go to my room right away and change the bed and clean it. All good now, but no GF yet and no call from the taxi, probably the flight still in the air or some crap like that.

Lately the GF is very jealous if I go at it without her, and this is one of the reasons why I'm thinking to start slowly distancing my self from her, because I don't like that at my age I have to hide while creating new memories.Care to share the details of this amazing massage girl? .

[Lokah]

Here my key learnings from Angeles this week.

1. I spent too much time reading this forum before going.

2. I like Angeles more than Manila.

3. I like the philosophy of 'A Traveller' and totally followed it.

4. There were some great girls of my target group: slim, young girls with small breasts.

1. Why too much time reading.

Angeles is super easy. One street. 200 m long or so. It really only takes 20 minutes to look into every single bar to get a full overview of each girl present.Hi Fred,

Is PrEP easily available in Ph? Is it available to buy PrEP without a prescription?

Thanks.

L.

[Goferring]

Several of us have reported about BeeWay Travel (has a website for contact), which provides p3500 service from either NAIA or your NCR hotel, direct to your AC hotel (paid in cash at the end of the ride). Discreet quiet drivers (no radio unless you ask for it). BeeWay also does visa extensions.Another option for those going straight to Angeles from NAIA is Genesis. Some may turn their nose up at catching a bus but its final stop is across the road from ABC. Very convenient.

G.

[Teltel]

This must be the "massage week", while waiting for the GF to arrive, I got messaged by another massage girl, this one is a 11 out of 10, I wonder how nobody wifed her yet, an absolute stunner from an obscure place on a far away street servicing mostly casinos, I was messaging her the day before with no reply, She said she was sleeping all day long, but she wanted to see me, low season, no customers, the usual. I told her I cannot because the GF is coming, I got few crying emojis in reply, and I thought it was the end of it.



Lately the GF is very jealous if I go at it without her, and this is one of the reasons why I'm thinking to start slowly distancing my self from her, because I don't like that at my age I have to hide while creating new memories.May be a setup where the g / f and your 'blonde' planned it, coincidence?? About the timings?? Of calls.

Teltel.

[WestCoast1]

May be a setup where the g / f and your 'blonde' planned it, coincidence?? About the timings?? Of calls.

Teltel.Best planned co-inky-dink ever!

[Goferring]

May be a setup where the g / f and your 'blonde' planned it, coincidence?? About the timings?? Of calls.

Teltel.


Best planned co-inky-dink ever!I'll agree that coincidence is pretty rare in Asia.

The walls have ears and there is zero chance that Sir Ugly got to shit in his own backyard without the GF finding out. Mrs Ugly would have had spies planted and on watch before she even left. 🕵65039;.

Think I'm paranoid? The bamboo telegraph can be amazing sometimes.

Enjoy. G.

[A Traveler]

Thank you. Your reports were super helpful and I followed the same 'afternoon action and then dinner & sleep' philosophy.Thanks for the shout out Fred11 and I'm glad you had a successful trip. Yeah, AC is good and it's easy. I devoted only four or five hours a day to the hobby. In that time I visited multiple venues, scoped out many girls, identified the ones I was interested in, picked one, took her home for boom boom, then in bed by 10 or 11 pm. For all the complaining here, where else can you do that? Please let me know, because I'd prefer to spend time in a nicer place. But AC has has many venues, and it's so easy.

I actually did my mongering after dinner. But now I wonder if I should embrace the fact that bars are open all day. Maybe next time I'll have lunch, then go hunting and have boom boom. I should be able to be done with that by five or six pm for an early dinner. Then I would have the evening to myself for a movie or video games. And early to bed of course.

[Old And Ugly]

Care to share the details of this amazing massage girl? .Sorry, cannot do that.

[Old And Ugly]

May be a setup where the g / f and your 'blonde' planned it, coincidence?? About the timings?? Of calls.

Teltel.Nope, they don't know eachother.

[Old And Ugly]

Another option for those going straight to Angeles from NAIA is Genesis. Some may turn their nose up at catching a bus but its final stop is across the road from ABC. Very convenient.

G.I prefer the genesis bus any time over any private transportation method including a Vegas style limo. Comfy, safe, fast and cheap. I emphasize SAFE, less chances of dying. Do not forget the only rule of driving in the PH which I posted it a while ago: You go where you need to go. The rest of the danger still there, but you mitigate it wherever possible.

[Old And Ugly]

My trip to AC was cut short in Cebu, by some girls working in a carinderia, another one in the restaurant of the hotel, one in a coffee booth, and an OTJ in the hotel itself, where it didn't suppose to happen, but probably they didn't got that far in the training curriculum yet. There was a masseuse and her coworker involved in the mix at some point also.

The highly praised Cebu online scene, didn't produced nothing tangible, just a waste of time.

Been, and still very busy lately taking care of all this business, no time for a lengthy report, but I'll do one in the Cebu section where it belongs soon.

[Goferring]

My trip to AC was cut short in Cebu, by some girls working in a carinderia, another one in the restaurant of the hotel, one in a coffee booth, and an OTJ in the hotel itself, where it didn't suppose to happen, but probably they didn't got that far in the training curriculum yet. There was a masseuse and her coworker involved in the mix at some point also.Congratulations. Yet again the Philippines shows she rewards those who react quickly to opportunities as they arise.

Contrast Sir Ugly's conquests to the dramas reported recently by guys planning their visits to the nth degree.

Enjoy. G.

[Jarango]

I have fallen in love with a sweet dolly bird who works in Viking and who has recently arrived from Samar with her two skin tight red dresses, leaving her two babies behind with her mom, who probably worked this beat back in the day. She speaks no English which is good as there is nothing to say beyond where you from, where you stay. She is sweet and doe-like and lives in the same street as me, as does her mate, who looks tough as nails and more hardened than steel.

I could do with a sweet heart as I have heard more hard luck stories and excuses than those who dodged out of going to Jesus' last supper. It is hard to keep track of the emergencies which come to mind once we do the deed but this is obviously standard operating procedure.

I did meet one long legged lovely in Phillies who spelt out her cut and dried terms like she was verbalising a contract. We all love to fuck lawyers but that ain't no Romeo and Juliet.

I tried the one legged dame who sells chewing gum on Walking St but that is a turn off, even for me. The amount of Long John and Long Jane Silvers crutching about is noteworthy, as is the poor quality of their peg legs (when they have them).

The best BS came from Angelica whom I picked up inside Phillies. After listening to all her BS excuses inside Phihlies, I knew I had made a mistake when I stepped outside, homeward bound with my over priced hobbit.

She spent the time inside my room cleaning my admittedly filthy CR. Then when it came time for action, she started saying the Rosary. When she went to undress, she immediately fainted (feignted) and I had to pick her up off the floor, place her on the bed for a few minutes, pay her and watch her pretend to stagger down the hallway.

I think I will write to an agony aunt in a newspaper. Maybe my luck will change and lady in red will become lady in bed and we will marry, be happy and have lots of little babies to work this beat in time to come.

[TomGrand]

Local international airport is Clark.It's tough to find good Clark flights. MNL is so much more convenient and cheaper. Supposedly CRK is a better airport, although I think every airport is better than MNL.

[TomGrand]

She spent the time inside my room cleaning my admittedly filthy CR. Then when it came time for action, she started saying the Rosary. When she went to undress, she immediately fainted (feignted) and I had to pick her up off the floor, place her on the bed for a few minutes, pay her and watch her pretend to stagger down the hallway.Sounds like something out of a sitcom. Or maybe a reverse Seinfeld episode.

I get the impression Angeles City is somewhat like Pattaya. Vibrant and all that.

[Fred11]

Thanks " A Traveller".

I believe the ease of pre-dinner entertainment is unique to Angeles.

However, I like 2 alternatives. The show only starts a bit later (8 pm), but I prefer the selection, hygiene and even passion of girls at these 2 places:

1. BKK PatPong with the adjacent LeMeridien.

2. Pattaya Soi6 with the Hilton at 15 minutes walk away.

I get my PReP and PEP at the Pulse Clinic in BKK. Supereasy and cheap; in particular compared to France, where I bought it before. They give you 90-120 pills at once.


Hi Fred,

Is PrEP easily available in Ph? Is it available to buy PrEP without a prescription?

Thanks..
Thanks for the shout out Fred11 and I'm glad you had a successful trip. Yeah, AC is good and it's easy. I devoted only four or five hours a day to the hobby. In that time I visited multiple venues, scoped out many girls, identified the ones I was interested in, picked one, took her home for boom boom, then in bed by 10 or 11 pm. For all the complaining here, where else can you do that? Please let me know, because I'd prefer to spend time in a nicer place. But AC has has many venues, and it's so easy.

I actually did my mongering after dinner. But now I wonder if I should embrace the fact that bars are open all day. Maybe next time I'll have lunch, then go hunting and have boom boom. I should be able to be done with that by five or six pm for an early dinner. Then I would have the evening to myself for a movie or video games. And early to bed of course.

[WestCoast1]

My trip to AC was cut short in Cebu, by some girls working in a carinderia, another one in the restaurant of the hotel, one in a coffee booth, and an OTJ in the hotel itself, where it didn't suppose to happen, but probably they didn't got that far in the training curriculum yet. There was a masseuse and her coworker involved in the mix at some point also.


Congratulations. Yet again the Philippines shows she rewards those who react quickly to opportunities as they arise.

Contrast Sir Ugly's conquests to the dramas reported recently by guys planning their visits to the nth degree.You got to experience the good, the bad, and the ugly. Some fellas can't pivot. Good job OAU, and a couple of pics for that.

WC.

[Goferring]

You got to experience the good, the bad, and the ugly. Some fellas can't pivot. Good job OAU, and a couple of pics for that.

WC.Nothing wrong with a little girl with big tits. Hers are full and standing proud. 😳.

G.

[Old And Ugly]

You got to experience the good, the bad, and the ugly. Some fellas can't pivot. Good job OAU, and a couple of pics for that.

WC.The pic with the uninhibited smile while holding the dick for the camera, is the best.

[PhilJoy]

The pic with the uninhibited smile while holding the dick for the camera, is the best.I think it's great G.

But if assume Westie's clutching a drink in this pic, it shows some talent not to spill a drop.

_ Phil.

[A Traveler]

Thanks " A Traveller".

I believe the ease of pre-dinner entertainment is unique to Angeles.

However, I like 2 alternatives. The show only starts a bit later (8 pm), but I prefer the selection, hygiene and even passion of girls at these 2 places:

1. BKK PatPong with the adjacent LeMeridien.

2. Pattaya Soi6 with the Hilton at 15 minutes walk away.

I get my PReP and PEP at the Pulse Clinic in BKK. Supereasy and cheap; in particular compared to France, where I bought it before. They give you 90-120 pills at once.Being able to buy prep at the Pulse Clinic is huge and bears repeating. Do you just ask for it and they prescribe it? That will be my source once I leave the USA once and for all for a life of traveling and whoring.

Thailand is the only real alternative I know of to AC. It's certainly nicer there, and better food. It's been decades since I've been to Patpong, how is it these days? My last trip to Pattaya was eight years ago and I've never been to Soi 6. Isn't it just go upstairs for covered ST? I like how in AC I take the girl home, and it's easy to get uncovered.

[Fred11]

Pulse Clinic was recommended to me by a WG from Bada Bing / Radio City in PatPong. She is smart as she uses PREP all the time. In Thailand (like in Europe) everyone can get PREP. You just need a consultation first (HIV test, and questions / test regarding kidney) and then you get the 4 (or so) month PREP. Just in Thailand it is much cheaper than France. Forgot about the cost of the consultation. Maybe EUR 10 incl. Rapid HIV test. Each 30 PREP were EUR 33 and each 10 PEP were EUR 8. It took 30 minutes and I had 6 x30 PREP and 80 PEP.

Yes. Soi 6 has rooms above the bar, but I also prefer my hotel (Hilton Pattaya is great, especially the front-facing suites. But barfines / minimum consumption are quite high), and the frequency of uncovered in Thailand (at least for me) was almost as high as in Angeles. I very much prefer PatPong over Nana, as you find more younger / slim girls. Forget about the other places in BKK.

The next reply I will send in the Thailand thread.


Being able to buy prep at the Pulse Clinic is huge and bears repeating. Do you just ask for it and they prescribe it? That will be my source once I leave the USA once and for all for a life of traveling and whoring.

Thailand is the only real alternative I know of to AC. It's certainly nicer there, and better food. It's been decades since I've been to Patpong, how is it these days? My last trip to Pattaya was eight years ago and I've never been to Soi 6. Isn't it just go upstairs for covered ST? I like how in AC I take the girl home, and it's easy to get uncovered.

[Mr Enternational]

Being able to buy prep at the Pulse Clinic is huge and bears repeating. Do you just ask for it and they prescribe it? That will be my source once I leave the USA once and for all for a life of traveling and whoring.It is not huge unless you plan on fucking dudes or a lot of women in the ass bareback. Otherwise you are just wasting your money and wrecking your body. Also you are supposed to start taking it 7 days before it is effective. So if you are going to buy it when you travel, you will waste an entire week waiting for the medicine to take hold before fucking said folks in the ass (or they you).

"PrEP is for people who have anal sex and is not currently recommended for people who have vaginal / frontal sex or people who inject drugs. "

"Conclusion: PrEP is for Both Tops and Bottoms. PrEP should be taken daily and should be taken for at least seven days before it is effective. "

[WestCoast1]

Nothing wrong with a little girl with big tits. Hers are full and standing proud. 😳.And certainly they helped something else stand full and proud 😳.


The pic with the uninhibited smile while holding the dick for the camera, is the best.She was the chubby part of a 3-some. I was inebriated and had been bar-hopping, pervin' Walking Street, on my way back to the hotel to call it a night. It started raining and I ducked into a Blow Row bar and got a Coke. There were no girls visible in the bar, just a mama reading a book. "What are you looking for?" Me? Nothing, just having a coke, waiting for the rain to lighten. She left the bar and went next door and brought back a somewhat chubby girl with a nice smile. No, mama, but thanks. She left the girl standing there and walked off and came back with a buxom looker. THAT is more like it. Cost was p500 for 2 hours at my place. "You take both". Ahhhh. I mulled that over for a moment. Didn't really want either gal, and certainly not the chub. She spoke to the girls in Tag, and the girls nodded affirmative. "Discount for taking both". Really. Hmmmmm. "Or you pay the regular price for 2 additional hours". Really! I can get a 4-hour 3-some for a blue note, all in? "Yes. Its a slow night. No customers". Sold!


But if assume Westie's clutching a drink in this pic, it shows some talent not to spill a drop.No drinks in my hands. Was not necessarily thinking Junior would rise to the occasion. Just thought of taking 2 girls for 4 hours for $20 was cracking me up. Considered just taking them to Atlantis or Tropix or Agasaya to watch the dancers and have some appetizers. Went to my place first and they each had a shot of tequila. They were both fun and funny, and seemed smarter than your average bear. I abstained as I was already past my booze prime. We bantered a bit about 3-some procedure and started with that happy one hoovering, while buxom beauty was going wild having fun with the cam (see mirror pic). From this point on they were on their combined happy game, joking with each other, winking into the camera with my Beauregard in their mouths. At some point Buxom Beauty had another shot of tequila. When we switched to Buxom's turn to snack the longanissa, Chubs got another shot of tequila and started camming. At some point Buxom took a break from her snack and looked right into the camera, which Chubs was holding right next to my right ear, snapping away and recording vid of Buxom. Buxom's eyes were slightly crossed at this point, indicating that she might have been drinking prior to my picking up the girls. Either way she was as drunk (or more) than I was. I love this picture because it caught her in a mixed moment of happiness, drunkenness, and raw sex. She posed for such pics for Chubs, a smile widening on her face, before returning to her protein diet.

The effing started, and after the explosion and cleaning the man and lady bits, more fun chat with girls who were more intelligent than: Where you from? Where you stay?

What I had to put up with back then.

[A Traveler]

It is not huge unless you plan on fucking dudes or a lot of women in the ass bareback. Otherwise you are just wasting your money and wrecking your body. Also you are supposed to start taking it 7 days before it is effective. So if you are going to buy it when you travel, you will waste an entire week waiting for the medicine to take hold before fucking said folks in the ass (or they you).

"PrEP is for people who have anal sex and is not currently recommended for people who have vaginal / frontal sex or people who inject drugs. "

"Conclusion: PrEP is for Both Tops and Bottoms. PrEP should be taken daily and should be taken for at least seven days before it is effective. "I just don't want to get HIV. Understood Prep is not proven for straight vaginal boom boom. But it's not that expensive and there have been no negative side effects. As for wasting a week, I simply start taking it a week before my trip.

[Safado70]

"PrEP is for people who have anal sex and is not currently recommended for people who have vaginal / frontal sex or people who inject drugs. ". "This is just wrong. It is absolutely approved and indicated for us straight mongers.

[Jarango]

This is just wrong. It is absolutely approved and indicated for us straight mongers.https://stanfordhealthcare.org/medical-conditions/sexual-and-reproductive-health/hiv-aids/treatments/prep.html

I am not at high risk of getting HIV and I don't fancy being buggered or pegged. Nor do I shoot up. It is 10 pm here in Angeles and I fancy going back to the nightmares on Red St. I sure ain't going to dose myself with that crap for the suggested timeline to bonk one of them. Not that many I meet are into bonking; they are more into scamming.

[PhilJoy]

Just thought of taking 2 girls for 4 hours for $20 was cracking me up.

The effing started, and after the explosion and cleaning the man and lady bits, more fun chat with girls who were more intelligent than: Where you from? Where you stay?Some wonderful moments can surely be had here Westie. And at some really unexpected rates.

Quite often, as you point out, you'll come across (literally) a few that can hold a normal, humourous conversation and f*ck like there's no tomorrow.

_Phil.

P.S. Out of interest, where in 'blow row?' Anywhere near Roelgeorge Bar? I heard it was changing hands and up for sale. That place could tell a few stories. A few of my own too.

[WestCoast1]

P.S. Out of interest, where in 'blow row?' Anywhere near Roelgeorge Bar? I heard it was changing hands and up for sale. That place could tell a few stories. A few of my own too.Back in the day (2010-2012), there were a bunch of ST / BJ bars on A Santos St, starting at the corner of Vian, and then heading south past Roel George. The several bars that I was talking about in the post were on Santos, literally behind Swiss Chalet hotel / resto. See the pic. You could either get an hour in a back room (or until you popped), or you could take a girl to your place for a set number of hours (either two or four hours). I don't remember the name of the bar where I got these girls, it was the first and northernmost bar on Santos where the 3 X's are on the map. There was another ST bar at the corner of Vian called WOW bar, then later was called Party 1 bar. In fact the two gals in the pics didn't come from this bar, I just happened to stumble into the place as it started to rain. It was empty of girls, with only a mama. She went to the other bars just to the south and fetched girls for me.

Of odd interest is that I pulled quite a number of 3-some gals from the Santos bars, and found that you didn't need to walk out the front of the bar onto Santos St to get back to the Central Park. Several 3-some sets of girls, including these, took me thru the back of their bar, thru a maze of corridors, that ended up coming out of either Swiss Chalet or the building just south of SC, on to Gloria St. The girls always took those corridors when it was raining. In the back of the ST bars were where some of their ST gogo gals slept. Did anyone else ever walk thru the back of those bars to go from Santos to Gloria? It was faster than walking around the block to Real St.

[Goferring]

Back in the day (2010-2012), there were a bunch of ST / BJ bars on A Santos St, starting at the corner of Vian, and then heading south past Roel George. The several bars that I was talking about in the post were on Santos, literally behind Swiss Chalet hotel / resto. See the pic. You could either get an hour in a back room (or until you popped), or you could take a girl to your place for a set number of hours (either two or four hours). I don't remember the name of the bar where I got these girls, it was the first and northernmost bar on Santos where the 3 X's are on the map. There was another ST bar at the corner of Vian called WOW bar, then later was called Party 1 bar. In fact the two gals in the pics didn't come from this bar, I just happened to stumble into the place as it started to rain. It was empty of girls, with only a mama. She went to the other bars just to the south and fetched girls for me.

Of odd interest is that I pulled quite a number of 3-some gals from the Santos bars, and found that you didn't need to walk out the front of the bar onto Santos St to get back to the Central Park. Several 3-some sets of girls, including these, took me thru the back of their bar, thru a maze of corridors, that ended up coming out of either Swiss Chalet or the building just south of SC, on to Gloria St. The girls always took those corridors when it was raining. In the back of the ST bars were where some of their ST gogo gals slept. Did anyone else ever walk thru the back of those bars to go from Santos to Gloria? It was faster than walking around the block to Real St.I'm not an authority on Angeles but from all the posts and stories it really appears that it has become a Tale of Two Cities.

On one hand we have guys having a great time spending 5,6,7 k for a ST with a gogo cutie. We also have reports of guys grabbing said girls off shift or other freelancers for much less. Even as low as 1000. Both groups seem very happy with their purchases.

G.

[WestCoast1]

I'm not an authority on Angeles but from all the posts and stories it really appears that it has become a Tale of Two Cities.

On one hand we have guys having a great time spending 5,6,7 k for a ST with a gogo cutie. We also have reports of guys grabbing said girls off shift or other freelancers for much less. Even as low as 1000. Both groups seem very happy with their purchases.Yes. The other AC schism wasn't necessarily covid, it was the change in K-culture and bar ownership. It was more gradual, starting around 2012-13, and becoming more pronounced by 2016. The pics and stories I told recently were also posted and told around 2013-ish. Prior to that, AC was what many of us think of as "Glory Days". Bars were filled with lithe young provincial beauties, barfining didn't have to involve purchasing a LD, most every girl was willing to barfine anytime she asked, about half the girls agreed to anal in my list of to-do's, most girls agreed before the barfine decision to stay until the time I requested in the morning (often 9 am or later), and less than a handful ever said no to using a camera. Most fellas couldn't fathom walking into a bar and not playing by the rules (buying multiple girls a LD in hopes of one agreeing to barfine). But you could just ignore it and, without ever sitting down or getting a drink for yourself, you could just ask some cutie if she would be willing to agree to your fun-list and barfine RIGHT NOW, and she'd usually agree to it on the spot. If by chance she was not in agreement, she would literally point you to specific girls who would be willing. You got LT with 2 shots on goal with a cutie who wanted little more than to make you happy. Your money was the power to control what you got.

All of those things started to slowly change or disappear around 2013. Signs started going up saying "No Cameras", LD's became mandatory, and "Drinks-only" girls came into existence, and ST-only has become a thing. Power has shifted to the bars and girls now. You can still have a good time, and I still recommend WS (and Burgos) as a good point-and-shoot place.

[Chocha Monger]

It is not huge unless you plan on fucking dudes or a lot of women in the ass bareback. Otherwise you are just wasting your money and wrecking your body. Also you are supposed to start taking it 7 days before it is effective. So if you are going to buy it when you travel, you will waste an entire week waiting for the medicine to take hold before fucking said folks in the ass (or they you).

"PrEP is for people who have anal sex and is not currently recommended for people who have vaginal / frontal sex or people who inject drugs. "

"Conclusion: PrEP is for Both Tops and Bottoms. PrEP should be taken daily and should be taken for at least seven days before it is effective. "PrEP is hard on the kidneys and liver, especially for those 50 years and older. It probably is not worth it for mongers who limit their activities to covered vaginal sex. However, AC has a substantial population of ladyboy sex workers. It is no secret that some mongers travel there to top ladyboys or be bottomed by them. So, for the mongers planning on indulging in a bit of bareback buggery, the side effects may outweigh the risks of catching HIV.

Also, there are the guys who occasionally report that they had too much to drink, got tricked by a ladyboy, and sobered up after a long night of back shots.

[Goferring]

without ever sitting down or getting a drink for yourself, you could just ask some cutie if she would be willing to agree to your fun-list and barfine RIGHT NOW, and she'd usually agree to it on the spot. and girls now.Let's not forget the other extreme: the Entourage. Girls were so much fun and cheap that a group of buddies could collect a harem and go bar hopping before heading home. Many times we would hit the town with 4,6,8 girls between a few guys and basically run amok. If a girl collapsed back in the room, no one cared as there were plenty more on hand. Wake up to bodies scattered everywhere and around lunchtime they would ask permission to go back home.

G.

[WestCoast1]

Let's not forget the other extreme: the Entourage. Girls were so much fun and cheap that a group of buddies could collect a harem and go bar hopping before heading home. Many times we would hit the town with 4,6,8 girls between a few guys and basically run amok. If a girl collapsed back in the room, no one cared as there were plenty more on hand. Wake up to bodies scattered everywhere and around lunchtime they would ask permission to go back home.

G.My maximum entourage was the many times I got 2 girls for a 3-some. I routinely got ST Santos or Raymond St girls for the multiple-hour pop at my place, did one pop between the two girls, and if at night we often went to a nearby gogo bar that had stage dancing and had a drink together. I never had multiple girls with several guys. Bit jealous.

[Old And Ugly]

Back in the day (2010-2012), there were a bunch of ST / BJ bars on A Santos St, starting at the corner of Vian, and then heading south past Roel George. The several bars that I was talking about in the post were on Santos, literally behind Swiss Chalet hotel / resto. See the pic. You could either get an hour in a back room (or until you popped), or you could take a girl to your place for a set number of hours (either two or four hours). I don't remember the name of the bar where I got these girls, it was the first and northernmost bar on Santos where the 3 X's are on the map. There was another ST bar at the corner of Vian called WOW bar, then later was called Party 1 bar. In fact the two gals in the pics didn't come from this bar, I just happened to stumble into the place as it started to rain. It was empty of girls, with only a mama. She went to the other bars just to the south and fetched girls for me.

Of odd interest is that I pulled quite a number of 3-some gals from the Santos bars, and found that you didn't need to walk out the front of the bar onto Santos St to get back to the Central Park. Several 3-some sets of girls, including these, took me thru the back of their bar, thru a maze of corridors, that ended up coming out of either Swiss Chalet or the building just south of SC, on to Gloria St. The girls always took those corridors when it was raining. In the back of the ST bars were where some of their ST gogo gals slept. Did anyone else ever walk thru the back of those bars to go from Santos to Gloria? It was faster than walking around the block to Real St.I used to live in the apartment above the bars, I didn't like it because you couldn't open the windows. I had a homeless girl guarding my door at night, that was her sleeping spot.

[Goferring]

I never had multiple girls with several guys. Bit jealous.For clarity, the entourage was more for rampaging around town. Remember, I'm talking about a time when Angeles was a fun town where bar hopping and clubbing in themselves were enjoyable. There have been a few exceptions but generally I've never been into gang bangs. What one person was doing in the lounge room while another was in a bedroom was never critically assessed but, no, I was never into a 10 in 10 PSE. Typical venues were the themed rooms or suites of the ABC or the Field Plaza Suites. They both have multi bedroom options.

Not sure why but recently, on my last trips, I have had a couple of girls ask me to set up a Bonny Blue-esque session for them. They basically wanted to be railed by as many guys as possible in one session. One was a total shock as she was outwardly very quiet and demure. Behind closed doors that changed totally. Sounds great but in reality, it's very hard to actually put together. The girl was always ready to go but guys were full of false promises, couldn't play in their own back yard, afraid of wives finding out etc. Excuses were endless. It's a shame.

Enjoy. G.

[Expat American]

Back in the day (2010-2012), there were a bunch of ST / BJ bars on A Santos St, starting at the corner of Vian, and then heading south past Roel George. The several bars that I was talking about in the post were on Santos, literally behind Swiss Chalet hotel / resto. See the pic. You could either get an hour in a back room (or until you popped), or you could take a girl to your place for a set number of hours (either two or four hours). I don't remember the name of the bar where I got these girls, it was the first and northernmost bar on Santos where the 3 X's are on the map. There was another ST bar at the corner of Vian called WOW bar, then later was called Party 1 bar. In fact the two gals in the pics didn't come from this bar, I just happened to stumble into the place as it started to rain. It was empty of girls, with only a mama. She went to the other bars just to the south and fetched girls for me.

Of odd interest is that I pulled quite a number of 3-some gals from the Santos bars, and found that you didn't need to walk out the front of the bar onto Santos St to get back to the Central Park. Several 3-some sets of girls, including these, took me thru the back of their bar, thru a maze of corridors, that ended up coming out of either Swiss Chalet or the building just south of SC, on to Gloria St. The girls always took those corridors when it was raining. In the back of the ST bars were where some of their ST gogo gals slept. Did anyone else ever walk thru the back of those bars to go from Santos to Gloria? It was faster than walking around the block to Real St.Back in the day story. I had barfined a cutie for the night (as all BF were LT then). She was sleeping in my bed and I got horny. But instead of waking her, I walked across the road to one of the ST bars at like 7 am. One cutie said "come inside sir" and so I did for 500 P. LOL. Walked back across the street to my room. Slept another hour or so, woke up the cutie, dumped another load inside her and went to breakfast. Just another day in Paradise.

[PhilJoy]

Back in the day (2010-2012), there were a bunch of ST / BJ bars on A Santos St, starting at the corner of Vian, and then heading south past Roel George. The several bars that I was talking about in the post were on Santos, literally behind Swiss Chalet hotel / resto. See the pic. You could either get an hour in a back room (or until you popped), or you could take a girl to your place for a set number of hours (either two or four hours). I don't remember the name of the bar where I got these girls, it was the first and northernmost bar on Santos where the 3 X's are on the map.I have tried the small bar on Vian marked with a cross Westie, as at the time, someone mentioned on here it was a decent BJ bar. There should be an old post of mine on here somewhere, but I think Jill was actually Jack and I gave it a miss.


I'm not an authority on Angeles but from all the posts and stories it really appears that it has become a Tale of Two Cities.

On one hand we have guys having a great time spending 5,6,7 k for a ST with a gogo cutie. We also have reports of guys grabbing said girls off shift or other freelancers for much less. Even as low as 1000. Both groups seem very happy with their purchases.G.Probably well known by now G, AC isn't my #1 destination choice in The Phils, but falling into the latter category, I've always been satisfied playing the FL game in AC.


Back in the day story. I had barfined a cutie for the night (as all BF were LT then). She was sleeping in my bed and I got horny. But instead of waking her, I walked across the road to one of the ST bars at like 7 am. One cutie said "come inside sir" and so I did for 500 P. LOL. Walked back across the street to my room. Slept another hour or so, woke up the cutie, dumped another load inside her and went to breakfast. Just another day in Paradise.Back in the day. Thanks Expat. A while back if you posted about how good things were 'back in the day' some would tell you times have changed and to move on. In my opinion, there's nothing wrong with remembering the glory days of times past. I know in ten years time I'll be looking back on the two weeks I've just had with a cute 26 yr old as 'the good old days'. Nothing wrong with that _ Phil.

[WestCoast1]

Back in the day story. I had barfined a cutie for the night (as all BF were LT then). She was sleeping in my bed and I got horny. But instead of waking her, I walked across the road to one of the ST bars at like 7 am. One cutie said "come inside sir" and so I did for 500 P. LOL. Walked back across the street to my room. Slept another hour or so, woke up the cutie, dumped another load inside her and went to breakfast. Just another day in Paradise.Cutie in your bed, your swimmers still inside her from a few hours before. Cutie across the street, with your more recent swimmers. And never the twain shall meet! The golden daze of AC.

[TomGrand]

Pulse Clinic was recommended to me by a WG from Bada Bing / Radio City in PatPong. She is smart as she uses PREP all the time. In Thailand (like in Europe) everyone can get PREP. You just need a consultation first (HIV test, and questions / test regarding kidney) and then you get the 4 (or so) month PREP. Just in Thailand it is much cheaper than France. Forgot about the cost of the consultation. Maybe EUR 10 incl. Rapid HIV test. Each 30 PREP were EUR 33 and each 10 PEP were EUR 8. It took 30 minutes and I had 6 x30 PREP and 80 PEP.The negative tests and medical consultation are what you need in the US as well. Everyone can get it.

I got the tests, consultation, and Descovy and paid nothing for any of it. It was completely free.

[Sir Lancelot]

I met Macca at his hotel La Vie and we took a taxi to Angeles. We booked it two days earlier from Aussie Slouch Hotel for 3900 and our driver was excellent. Not only did he arrive 10 minutes early to pick us up but he knew all the shortcuts and got us to our hotels in just an hour and 15 minutes, at least half an hour quicker than our driver last year.

I'm staying at my regular hotel, Penthouse, picked purely for its proximity to Red Street (from the front steps of the hotel it's just 50 meters to Kokomoz). My room is on the 6th floor and after unpacking I couldn't resist catching up on a few hours of sleep. The pillows at Penthouse are outrageously comfy and you get four of them for good measure.

One downside of the hotel is one of the lifts is out-of-service and the remaining lift is painstakingly slow. It can easily take five minutes waiting for it and when you do, it's often filled with other people. A middle-aged guy stood in awkward silence with a Filipino girl staring at her shoes, an eccentric Aussie told me about his dead cat.

I met Macca at 7 pm at Kokomoz for dinner. I had a tasty chicken in white wine sauce as we watched freelancers walk past. A little blonde caught me looking and gave me a coy smile. It was good to be back in Angeles.

There was only one bar to start at, our favourite for each of the past three trips, Viking. Everything is great about this bar. You walk through ship's rigging to enter and get a scream from the girls when you walk through the curtains. They are standing on a pirate ship in the middle of the bar and there were 30 girls crammed shoulder to shoulder. Promisingly, at least five were barfine material. A girl in a red top with denim shorts had a radiant smile and a pretty girl called Ella had big luscious lips. The barfine here is 5500.

Macca wanted to check whether Western Fields Sports Bar at the bottom of Red Street was televising a big match from back home later. This end is the street was quiet last year but has definitely woken up. Three young girls shouted 'massage sir?' outside one small shop and eager hello girls lined up outside Baccara, Acadia and Dragon.

Macca decided to stop for food so we arranged to meet again in half an hour. I decided to try one of my favourite bars from yesteryear, Atlantis. Five girls were performing a dance when I took my stool and I was immediately latched on to by two average girls, who fired all of the usual questions at me. A waitress appeared and asked if I'd like to buy the girls drinks. I ignored her and then five minutes later the supervisor appeared, a unique looking girl with short hair, who after firing the same questions to me I'd answered just minutes earlier, gestured towards the girls and said 'drink for ladies?

This bar is steadily getting busier year on year and there must have been about 50 girls, including an outstanding hello girl sat outside, but they've got to ease back on the ladydrink pressure.

I wish bars here would just stick to their old names. Carousel became Centauro then Carousel again, Cambodia became Baccara, Typhoon became Monsoon, Sensations is now Whiskey and one of my favourite bars Genesis has changed to Acadia.

It was in one of those bars that I barfined an absolute gem of a girl. I saw her on stage when I walked and knew immediately she was my girl. She was short and cute and flashed me a big metallic smile when I looked at her. I called her down for a drink.

In this diary I change the names of girls I barfine, as some fuckwits like to try to find girls mentioned and tell them they've been written about on a sex forum. It's happened to me twice now, once on this forum and a few years ago on the awful Pattaya thread. So I'll call this girl Candy. She was 22 years old and a funny, affectionate girl. She was slim but had nice fuller tits in the pushup bra she was wearing. She spoke immaculate English as she previously worked in a call centre, and she's now studying to be a doctor. I couldn't resist paying her 6000 barfine and she went off to get changed, reappearing several minutes later wearing frayed denim shorts and a cute white cardigan.

She's only been working at the bar for four nights so I took her to see the dance show at XS. The show started with the black tape models, followed by several energetic dance routines and culminated in a pole routine. 'This is so good!' she said, hugging my arm excitedly, like I'd taken her to see a hit West End show.

There must have been over 100 girls and needless to say, some were very attractive indeed.

Macca signs his drink chits with random names, so the tiller will be amazed to see Mickey Mouse, Adolf Hitler and Manny Pacquiao were all in attendance tonight. Amusingly when me and Candy stood up to leave, she said 'goodbye Micky Mouse' to him.

She was perfection naked as we chatted on the bed. She'd only had two boyfriends before and no westerners, so was fascinated by my dick, which was now standing to attention. 'Oh my god!' she said as she stroked it before leaning down and giving me a nice blowjob. It's a great sight seeing a cute girl with braces sucking your dick.

I pulled her on top of me and she rubbed her pussy on my dick. 'I'm nervous, never had big dick before' she said. I told her I had some lube but she shook her head and said 'wet already', before guiding me in to her. She was extraordinarily tight and softly groaned as she wiggled her hips to take me in to her. 'It's like sex toy!' she joked (I'll point out once again that I'm average by western standards). The sex that followed was magical, exactly what I come halfway around the world to experience.

We had a long chat afterwards, which was interesting.

She told me she gets just 2700 pesos from the barfine and sleeps at the 'staff house', sharing a bed with seven other girls who work at the bar. She's close with a few other girls who have both given her the same piece of advice: 'no Koreans'. When I asked why she said 'they angry' and one had slapped her friend. She said they act 'almighty' like they are the king and the girl their obedient slave. Most surprisingly, she told me that girls in the bar hate that Koreans ask for discount on bar-fines and even lady-drinks.

One of the recurring pieces of false news you read on this forum is that Angeles is Korean-only and westerners don't stand a chance with pretty girls (to be fair, mainly perpetuated by one person). Stories like this show what utter nonsense that is.

I personally think the Korean invasion here has been a good thing in some regards, as often the best bars are Korean run, but it seems some of the Korean visitors (not all I hasten to add) show the girls a lack of respect. I've got a theory about it actually. I've been to South Korea and it's a great country with friendly people. But the dating world is very old-fashioned, prim and proper, where a guy might have to take a girl on 10 dates before he gets so much as a peck on the cheek. I think a lot of these guys are just so sexually frustrated they want to let off steam, and it's no coincidence that the Filipino girls they pick are often those who look as Korean as possible (pale skin, pointy noses etc).

Candy said she had to leave at 6 am but as I didn't want to be woken up at 5 am I let her leave at 2 am. She gave me her WhatsApp number so we can arrange a daytime meet.

A great girl to start my time in Angeles.

[Jarango]

The Brass Monkey is for sale at 16 mPHP. It could work if you cleaned out the old fossils playing pool and got some non Sump waitresses. It would make a good free lance joint like Beirgarten, with juke box. The hotel could work as a short time add on, though there seems to be a scene with that regarding the room just behind reception. The Pinoys lack something in the service dept. Most would never be hired in a western bar.

Today Sunday was slow. No doubt all the hookers were at church or studying for their medical exams.

Ran into one of those Mumbai 5/6 gangsters. 100 years they have been shaking down the locals. This is a hard place for outsiders to make coin.

[MoonShot]

I met Macca at his hotel La Vie and we took a taxi to Angeles. We booked it two days earlier from Aussie Slouch Hotel for 3900 and our driver was excellent. Not only did he arrive 10 minutes early to pick us up but he knew all the shortcuts and got us to our hotels in just an hour and 15 minutes, at least half an hour quicker than our driver last year.

I'm staying at my regular hotel, Penthouse, picked purely for its proximity to Red Street (from the front steps of the hotel it's just 50 meters to Kokomoz). My room is on the 6th floor and after unpacking I couldn't resist catching up on a few hours of sleep. The pillows at Penthouse are outrageously comfy and you get four of them for good measure.."She was perfection naked as we chatted on the bed. She'd only had two boyfriends before and no westerners.

I wouldn't take everything a girl say as true. I wouldn't say it like that. It is more accurate to say this "She said she'd only had two boyfriends before and no westerners". That would be a true statement. Whether the assertions are true or not, now that is another story.

[Expat American]

She told me she gets just 2700 pesos from the barfine and sleeps at the 'staff house', sharing a bed with seven other girls who work at the bar. She's close with a few other girls who have both given her the same piece of advice: 'no Koreans'. When I asked why she said 'they angry' and one had slapped her friend. She said they act 'almighty' like they are the king and the girl their obedient slave. Most surprisingly, she told me that girls in the bar hate that Koreans ask for discount on bar-fines and even lady-drinks.And the next night she told her Korean customer how she was told to avoid Westerners at all costs. Dude, the girls tell you whatever they think you want to hear. Anyone can walk into a bar and see the response of the girls when a group of Koreans walk in. They are definitely not unwelcome.

[MoonShot]

And the next night she told her Korean customer how she was told to avoid Westerners at all costs. Dude, the girls tell you whatever they think you want to hear. Anyone can walk into a bar and see the response of the girls when a group of Koreans walk in. They are definitely not unwelcome.I agree. You are a Westerner, what do you think the girl will say? Oh, I hate Westerners, they are so cheap and fat. I am only with you because I couldn't get a Korean client. As you indicated, when they are with a Korean client, it will be a completely different story. What is the truth? No one really knows but Westerners like to believe that they are telling the truth to them and lying to the Koreans. It could be true but it could equally be the opposite.

[Goferring]

Dude, the girls tell you whatever they think you want to hear....Wait, what exactly are you suggesting? That 19 yo students in Surigao are not being truthful when they say they prefer me, a distinguished elderly gent, over young Siargao surfer dudes?

I think you'll find that I've aged like fine wine and it's clear why I'm the preferred option.

[Goferring]

"She was perfection naked as we chatted on the bed. She'd only had two boyfriends before and no westerners.

I wouldn't take everything a girl say as true. I wouldn't say it like that. It is more accurate to say this "She said she'd only had two boyfriends before and no westerners". That would be a true statement. Whether the assertions are true or not, now that is another story.Lying is an Olympic sport in the Philippines. They simply cannot tell the truth. Ever.

It doesn't matter if it's a white lie to protect the listener (you're so handsome) or it's a monumental one to protect the speaker (no, I don't have kids) or, my favourite, when they simply won't provide important or pertinent information (sorry, I forgot that I've got a dick).

Take anything they say as a rough indication of reality but nothing more.

In the end, who cares? We are paying them to be nice to us, right?

Enjoy. G.

[Old And Ugly]

I agree. You are a Westerner, what do you think the girl will say? Oh, I hate Westerners, they are so cheap and fat. I am only with you because I couldn't get a Korean client. As you indicated, when they are with a Korean client, it will be a completely different story. What is the truth? No one really knows but Westerners like to believe that they are telling the truth to them and lying to the Koreans. It could be true but it could equally be the opposite.Take a look around and you will see that most K coming to AC are on the fat side, most of them cheap towards the girls, extremely uneducated, probably with stinky breath, because they all indulge in kimchi, garlic, and without exception they are all heavy smokers. I don't know if they stink or not because I'm not into smelling other men, but the ones the girls dream off are only in the K-pop videoclips and in the movies. The few that used to throw wads of 20's around a few years back to impress their comrades, not the girls perpetuated the fake image imprinted by now in the minuscule brains of the BGs that they are all rich. Lots of quality educated people in Korea, but the ones visiting AC are not.

I would say that the latest crowds of foreigners visiting PH are young and in shape, ugly relics myself included are becoming a rare sight.

[Old And Ugly]

Wait, what exactly are you suggesting? That 19 yo students in Surigao are not being truthful when they say they prefer me, a distinguished elderly gent, over young Siargao surfer dudes?

I think you'll find that I've aged like fine wine and it's clear why I'm the preferred option.I think the smart ones are being truthful about preferring age over looks, they are looking for cash, not beauty.

Recently I had the honor of spending some time with the younger good looking crowd, paying for the services never crossed their minds, also when inviting a girl to dinner they expect to pay half / half or if the girl offers to pay the bill they will accept it, draw the conclusions.

[Sir Lancelot]

After my usual breakfast at Kokomoz I had a few interesting conversations. Firstly I chatted with a softly spoken Irish guy who is en route home from a trip to Australia and has dropped in to Angeles without his wife's knowledge. He isn't in to the bars, he says, but enjoys playing daily poker matches. When he vacated his seat it was taken by Viv from Hong Kong, who told me about some the pretty girls he has met during the daytime after getting their numbers from outside the bars.

He also told me something that is concerning. You might remember in my diary a year ago my friend's phone was snatched on the corner of Narciso Street and Fields Avenue? Apparently Viv had his phone stolen by knifepoint a year earlier, just a block away by two guys who rode up to him on a scooter. Be careful with your phones, guys.

Speaking of concerning, I met Macca at Western Point Sports Bar in the afternoon to resume our annual pool rivalry and he beat me 3-1. I'll have nightmares thinking about that miss to the middle pocket in the final frame.

Night-time came around quickly and we met at Cosplay at 8 pm. It was Macca's choice as he'd just come from Japan and had developed a taste for school uniforms and knee-socks. There were 15 girls, mainly 6/10's but they weren't in cosplay outfits and mainly just stood looking bored.

We each chose a bar to go to next, but it didn't go to plan.

Macca chose the newly reopened Crystal Palace, a nostalgic choice as we had some great times in there in the past, but when we entered three girls were doing a dance number and we couldn't see any more girls sitting around. We left but vowed to return another time. My choice of bar was equally unsuccessful. QBar delivered us some great girls last year but is closed on Monday night.

We went to Carousel and there were five skinny girls in matching tartan skirts on the revolving stage. At one point they were joined by a girl with a stellar figure in a skimpy bikini, but she quickly got called down by a middle-aged western guy trying to look younger with his cap on back-to-front.

So far we'd been to three bars and in stark contrast to last night they felt dead. Perhaps it's a Monday thing.

We bumped in to Viv, the guy from Hong Kong I met at Kokomoz, and went to Viking. This bar is always busy and there were 30 girls crowded on to the stage. There were some cute girls but none of the hotties I saw last night, probably being nailed by some lucky fellas. The sexiest thing about the bar tonight was the English guy sat opposite receiving a lap-dance from a blonde Filipina he'd barfined earlier.

Next on our bar-crawl was Whisky, formerly Sensations. 15 girls were trying to follow dances on the flatscreen TVs, including one that was small and cute, definite barfine material. I went in front of the stage to join them for their dance rehearsal.

The three hottest girls were sat on the sidelines, wearing matching skimpy pink outfits with knee-high white boots. Speaking of fashion, Viv was looking dapper wearing a black fedora, but my suggestion that he could be Macca's stylist didn't go down well with the latter.

As we walked back up the road, Macca spotted a cute girl outside a small massage shop. With little hesitation he went inside with her, so we were a man down.

We went to XS and got stools right next to the stage for the 10 pm dance show. This is the place to sit as the girls are doing splits within touching distance. It was a completely different show to last night. One dance group did a formula 1 routine with chequered flags, while the Makati Ledge Dancers were all young and pretty and did a highly energetic and suggestive routine that I must admit gave me a semi. One of them in particular was sublime.

At one point a group were dancing in black gothic outfits, and the girl in front of me kicked her leg in the air with such force a cross from her belt came off, spun in the air and landed on my lap. I'm not religious but I couldn't help wondering if it was a sign.

My phone pinged and it was Macca to say he was at Cafe La Meilleure, a bar right next to the Red Street sign. As I was heading there, I passed Dollhouse. It is currently closed for refurb but one of my contacts, a former black tape dancer at Avalon, informed me she's starting work there on Friday. I popped my head in to the door and there was still a lot of scaffolding up but it looked near completion. Disappointingly though they've gone with the traditional rectangular shaped stage instead of the circular stage we all know and love.

Macca was sitting at a stool right at the front of Cafe La Meilleure and I was eager to hear about his mucky massage. The girl offered a hand job for 1000, a blowjob for 2000 (uncovered if clean) and full sex for 3000. He opted for the blowjob option. But then two other girls came in to the curtained cubicle and tried to upsell a two or three girl option. Macca said he found it hard to relax with three girls in the confined space, his valuables in a tray under the bed.

The stools at the front of Cafe La Meilleure are a great place to watch freelancers walk past. They often seem to be in pairs, either trawling along the street for business or entering Mega or Hammer. There are some very pretty girls indeed.

By now it was past 11 pm and time to find my girl for the night.

Lone Wolf Mode activated, I decided to walk down Red Street to see if I could bag myself a cute freelancer. Almost immediately I saw two pretty girls I'd seen walk past just a few minutes earlier. They were both head-turners, young and fresh-faced, and every guy was gawping at them as they walked past. One in particular was beautiful, prettier than any girl I'd seen in a gogo bar tonight. She was small and skinny with a very distinctive face, and was wearing a tight black top and tracksuit bottoms. She was popular too. A western man accosted them, then after they walked away dismissively an Indian man tried his luck. They continued walking so I decided to dive in.

'Hi, where you go?' I asked.

'We look for business' the prettier of the two said.

After establishing their names and smooth-talking them with a few well-deserved compliments, I enquire how much it would cost. The older of the two explained they came as a package and asked me to name a price, a shrewd tactic on their behalf. They were both pretty enough to walk away from any insulting offers and I figured the two guys they'd brushed off so quickly had gone in optimistically low. Although I've procured the services of young freelancers for 1500, these were elite level by comparison.

'4000 for both' I said.

'5000' they countered.

'4000 plus tip if you make me smile' I said and with that the deal was done.

As I walked them back to the Red Street sign, one of the men they rejected earlier, a scary looking man who was acting drunk, tried to block their path, making them scurry away screaming (albeit with big smiles on their faces). He was probably incandescent with rage that two young girls would possibly reject his 2000 offer. Probably a member of ISG.

Macca looked shocked when I returned with the girls and whispered in my ear 'be careful, they look about 12'.

He was exaggerating but it spooked me. They were both young but I hadn't considered for a moment they might be underage, and with freelancers you have to be extra vigilant.

Often there is no-one on the front desk at Penthouse late at night but on this occasion I was grateful that there was a woman checking IDs. I sighed with relief when they were waved through.

They were both 19 and told me tonight was their first night on Walking Street to help pay for their studies.

Now this is where if I just left it at that, several of you would be quick to pounce, telling me how naive I am to trust what p4 p girls say (yawn). But I took their information with a pinch of salt as the prettier of the two, Kim, revealed she'd had a nose job a few months earlier, hardly the behaviour of your average Filipina high-school student. She also told me she has won pageants, so I made her show off her catwalk skills with a book balanced on her head.

What followed wasn't a threesome of course, but it was an amazing experience.

I lay naked between their perfect bodies as Kim gave me an inexperienced blowjob, surfacing for air every few moments to ask me Harry Potter related questions as I'm from England as it's her favourite movie.

'Have you met Hermione?

I shook my head and sucked Alicia's shapely tits as Kim resumed her work.

'How about Ron Weasley?

The sex was great, fucking both girls in multiple positions. Kim was skinny with tiny tits and erect nipples, and looked a picture riding me before demanding doggy. She had a tiny bum and demanded I give her a good pounding. Alicia was a nice looking girl too and groaned softly as I fucked her in mish, then I buried my face in to her tits when she took her turn on top. They'd insisted on a condom (which I'd have used anyway with freelancers) but didn't make me change it as I alternated between girls.

'Next time no condom' Alicia said as she got changed. That's not a line you hear very often from 19 year old girls back home.

They didn't do a great deal to dispel the myth that students are always on the take. Everything free that wasn't bolted down, they wanted to take. Shampoo, toiletries, toothpaste, half-eaten bag of crisps. I'm glad they didn't notice I had a mini-bar.

[Jarango]

Picked up a loser waiting for her no show date in Teodora Street, 700 PHP short time with a 100 PHP food stop over to give her some energy. She was mid 30's but with all the basics (face, mouth, boobs, pussy, ass). Sex was 6000 PHP worth by ISG metrics but mine was marinated, knew her function in life. A graduate, obviously but aren't all the bottom feeders? Not the best looker but then I rented her to fuck her, not to put her in a glass cage.

As always, the scene is boring here. Empty bars, too many cigarettes.

Lots of pretty free lancers and snubby nosed bar girls about. How do they get on when they return to Samar with pussies as wide as the ocean? Do they get jobs cracking coconuts?

Today's date also did some cleaning and half hearted massage. I might go to the blind massage next but thy don't do extras.

[Jarango]

Skulking through the back streets an old rose-selling flame I previously reported on called out my name and summaries of the romps we had in mating seasons of yesteryear. I asked her why she was not selling her roses yesterday. Family duty in the form of accompanying one of her other daughters to hospital had prioritized. As she was, as ever, hungry, I bought her and another of her daughters some street food and then off to Sunlight for a 3 some. As mother looks far too old and haggard, I pumped her daughter and gave them a further 1200 PHP between them. Extravagant I know but they have their overheads.

Though mama looks a wreck to me, I am sure we look wrecks to them. The grandpapa fetish is an illusion. There are far too many similarities to micturating in the urinals of long ago. That dank, stale, slightly acidic smell like you get from eating kidneys. At least with micturating, you know when you have to go. Here, the hags of Christmas and Valentine Day past just randomly pop up and expect to be fed for opening their piss flaps. A strange world we live in.

[A Traveler]

After my usual breakfast at Kokomoz I had a few interesting conversations. Firstly I chatted with a softly spoken Irish guy who is en route home from a trip to Australia and has dropped in to Angeles without his wife's knowledge. He isn't in to the bars, he says, but enjoys playing daily poker matches. When he vacated his seat it was taken by Viv from Hong Kong, who told me about some the pretty girls he has met during the daytime after getting their numbers from outside the bars..Don't listen to the armchair critics Sir. Your reports are detailed and interesting. You are on the ground and having fun.

Regarding the cute girls outside the massage shop on Walking / Red St, I can vouch for them. They hand out cards to passersby and I saw a cute one so grabbed it. Later I summoned her to my condo and she was great. 23, big boobs and bubbly personality. She gave an oil massage, with me naked on my bed. After I asked her for extras and she enthusiastically got naked for boom boom. I was so pleased I summoned her again.

[Sir Lancelot]

For a change of scene I went to SM Mall for lunch. It was midday and there were lots of pretty students in the food court. After a coffee at Starbucks, where Macca was flirting at distance with a cute girl running a little stall selling necklaces, we walked back to Red Street and I made up for yesterday's calamity at pool by winning 4-1 today. Form is temporary, class is permanent.

A black tape dancer I barfined from Avalon a few years ago, who has recently started at the bar again, messaged me during the afternoon, asking me to come in to the bar to see her. She messaged again at 7. 15 pm asking where I was. Me and Macca arrived a short while later but she wasn't there. Either she looks very different now and I didn't recognise her or she had already been barfined. There were six average girls on the stage and three or four pretty ones sat with customers.

We went to Viking, where there are always lots of young girls, smiling and laughing on stage. There were a few pretty ones including a classic Filipino beauty with long, curly hair.

QBar delivered us great girls a year ago but the lineup wasn't inspiring tonight. But it only takes one girl and I called a very skinny 22 year old down for a drink. She had no tits whatsoever but the peachiest little bum I've ever seen. She spoke limited English though so conversation was difficult. There has to be some kind of a spark or the sex is purely transactional.

Macca wanted to go down to the massage shop to say Hello, to the girl he went with last night. En route he was stopped in his tracks by a lovely looking girl outside Champagne. She had a pretty face and was dressed in a sophisticated long dress. 'I see you again' he promised to her, not realising yet that later in the evening he'd be calling this girl his 'future wife'!

Baccara is a cosy venue that usually has a lively atmosphere. There were 12 girls on stage and immediately I spotted a girl I liked the look of with blond hair, but before I could act she was summoned down to another customer. You snooze, you lose. This bar has an anything-goes atmosphere and I noticed some of the girls were sat astride their customers with tops off.

A big-spending tourist sat next to me, probably in his forties and nearly 7 foot tall, who was extravagantly throwing buckets of ping pong balls to the girls. He must be a regular because they handed him the microphone for karaoke and he belted out Sweet Caroline and Bon Jovi's It's My Life (with me as backing singer).

I bought a drink for a pretty, dark-skinned girl, who had a Cambodian appearance. She was a nice smily girl, who I was surprised to hear was 31. I was tempted to pay her barfine but it was 5500 and I decided against.

I caught up with Macca in Champagne, who looked loved-up with his new favourite Filipina girl. No girls were dancing but an old geezer in a frayed hat had three ladydrinks on the go and one of the girls was cute.

We were lured in to Atlantis by a throng of pretty Hello, girls outside. There were lots of pretty girls dotted around the bar. Seven girls were slow-dancing on stage and I recognised one, a pocket rocket I barfined from Dollhouse two years ago. She was a tiger in the bedroom and that rarest of commodities, a skinny Filipina girl with big natural tits. I've fantasised about this girl many times since barfining her two years ago, so I tried to summon her down for a drink. The rug was pulled from under my feet though when the waitress explained that the girl was ill today and couldn't speak.

I wasn't too disappointed. A tiny girl with big natural tits who had been working on Red Street for at least two years must have a pussy the size of the Channel Tunnel.

Another set of girls went on stage to dance and one, hiding shyly at the back, was an absolute doll. I summoned the same waitress to me and indicated the girl I wanted to buy a drink for but for the second time she delivered bad news.

'She cherry girl' she said.

You are welcome to buy cherry girls a drink but I think it's a form of torture if you know it can't go anywhere. It's like that famous line from game shows, 'here's what you could have won'. Out of curiosity Macca asked how much it would cost to barfine this girl and the answer would surely deter even the most randy of Koreans, 200,000 pesos.

I'd been blown out twice in Atlantis but it would be third time lucky.

I got chatting with a 24 year old girl with a very pretty face and wavy hair. Her features looked more westernised than Filipino and she had an exotic Maya Jama look about her, the UK model / TV presenter. I complimented her on her hair and she told me that she spends 200 pesos to get it done upstairs each night and makeup is 100 pesos, a worthy investment I thought. It was past midnight so I decided she'd be my girl. The barfine here is 5000 short-time or 6000 long-time.

She was great company in the room. I know some guys think it's a waste of time getting to know a girl, but I love hearing their stories. She had a big scratch on her shoulder and another on her leg, which she told me she'd got by being caught in the middle of the usual scrum that ensues when customers do those (small dick energy) 20 peso rain showers.

The sex was spectacular. As we were kissing I asked her 'what makes you malibog (horny)?' She giggled and said 'secret' (which I initially misheard and thought she said 'cigarette' I fucked her slowly in mish and then in one movement rolled her on top of me to ride me. 'I'm malibog now!' she laughed as she rode me like her life depended on it.

The sex was without a condom and after I came inside her, she jumped off shocked and ran to the bathroom laughing, to clean herself with the hose. I assumed the convention is that if you fuck a girl without a condom, she'll pre-warn you not to cum inside her if that's what she wants? Plus it's not like it wasn't obvious I was climaxing, I must have writhed and groaned for five seconds before I shot my load!

Three days in and Angeles is delivering some great girls.

[PhilJoy]

The sex was without a condom and after I came inside her, she jumped off shocked and ran to the bathroom laughing, to clean herself with the hose. I assumed the convention is that if you fuck a girl without a condom, she'll pre-warn you not to cum inside her if that's what she wants? Plus it's not like it wasn't obvious I was climaxing, I must have writhed and groaned for five seconds before I shot my load!

Three days in and Angeles is delivering some great girls.Good to see AC is delivering Lance.

Great report.

I've found that over time, the girls seem a bit shocked that you actually cum inside them when they accept you without a condom.

I've had one or two request I pull-out before the event. Reason being, "I get pregnant, foreign man not pay for".

My most recent FL in Manila didn't have a problem with it at all.

But I find that nearly all of them go to the water gun by the shitter once it's all done and dusted.

And who's to blame them for having a clean out.

Just my experience_Phil.

[Errol Flynn]

I haven't posted in a while because when they cut my prostate out, they essentially cut my manhood off. But that's a different story.

I have a female friend in Angeles. She worked at Lollipop for several years, her English is very good. * She's cute and sweet.

She doesn't want to go back to the bar world. I don't think she minds flirting or hanging with Western guys. But she's just not a very sexual person. I do think she's willing to work hard.

I've been encouraging her to go apply for jobs at restaurants. I think her goal should be to become a waitress, but it's fine for her to start as a hostess, busgirl or dishwasher (and I've told her so).

She knows what service should be. As she's been to pretty much all the Walking Street area restaurants with me or others. She's also travelled more than most (with me).

She's promised to go and try at five places in AC that I suggest.

Can you guys suggest five places where she might stand a chance? It's two years since I've been to A. See.

Or anything else? Obviously, with her main work credential being Lollipop, a monger oriented tourist business is the only place she's likely to get anything.

Thanks,

The (former) Errol Flynn.

[Goferring]

Good to see AC is delivering Lance.

Great report.

I've found that over time, the girls seem a bit shocked that you actually cum inside them when they accept you without a condom.

I've had one or two request I pull-out before the event. Reason being, "I get pregnant, foreign man not pay for".

My most recent FL in Manila didn't have a problem with it at all.

But I find that nearly all of them go to the water gun by the shitter once it's all done and dusted.

And who's to blame them for having a clean out.

Just my experience_Phil.Unless I'm prewarned I've always treated BBCIP as the default. No one has complained.

Having said that, I've learnt the hard way that agreeing beforehand to cum outside is a promise best kept. "Accidents" are not something that the girls will simply laugh off and they can get angry. Very angry.

We all know nonCIP won't prevent pregnancy or STDs but it's their logic and the girls stick to it.

I've also noticed that being a good boy in round one often leads to no limit poke-her for subsequent games.

Enjoy. G.

[Goferring]

I haven't posted in a while because when they cut my prostate out, they essentially cut my manhood off. But that's a different story.

I have a female friend in Angeles. She worked at Lollipop for several years, her English is very good. * She's cute and sweet.

She doesn't want to go back to the bar world. I don't think she minds flirting or hanging with Western guys. But she's just not a very sexual person. I do think she's willing to work hard.

I've been encouraging her to go apply for jobs at restaurants. I think her goal should be to become a waitress, but it's fine for her to start as a hostess, busgirl or dishwasher (and I've told her so).

She knows what service should be. As she's been to pretty much all the Walking Street area restaurants with me or others. She's also travelled more than most (with me).

She's promised to go and try at five places in AC that I suggest.

Can you guys suggest five places where she might stand a chance? It's two years since I've been to A. See.

Or anything else? Obviously, with her main work credential being Lollipop, a monger oriented tourist business is the only place she's likely to get anything.

Thanks,

The (former) Errol Flynn.Sorry to hear about your op and the effects. That sucks.

If she doesn't want to go back to barwork, speaks english and is well travelled, would a tourist guide be an option?

There are plenty of scared newbies who want someone to hold their hand, get them on and off ferries etc. Obviously extras can be included at a price but it would be far better than the nightly grind in a bar.

There are many dedicated travel partner websites she could join or you could help her put together an attractive FB page.

Just an idea.

Good luck. G.

[Errol Flynn]

Sorry to hear about your op and the effects. That sucks.

If she doesn't want to go back to barwork, speaks english and is well travelled, would a tourist guide be an option?

Thanks. That's an interesting idea, there may be some issues but I'll run it by her.

[Chocha Monger]

I haven't posted in a while because when they cut my prostate out, they essentially cut my manhood off. But that's a different story.

I have a female friend in Angeles. She worked at Lollipop for several years, her English is very good. * She's cute and sweet.

She doesn't want to go back to the bar world. I don't think she minds flirting or hanging with Western guys. But she's just not a very sexual person. I do think she's willing to work hard.Unfortunately, once the surgeons snip out your prostate, that is the end of your mongering career. You will have to redirect your energy to other pursuits in life. Chasing pussy is no longer a viable option, but at least you didn't have to take a dirt nap.

As for your friend, all we know is that she worked at Lollipop for several years. However, her best bet may be to get some sort of short vocational training for a non-bar skill that is marketable. If that is not an option, she may have to create her own job. Maybe, you can front her the capital to start as a Viagra salesgirl.

[Old And Ugly]

I haven't posted in a while because when they cut my prostate out, they essentially cut my manhood off. But that's a different story.

I have a female friend in Angeles. She worked at Lollipop for several years, her English is very good. * She's cute and sweet.

She doesn't want to go back to the bar world. I don't think she minds flirting or hanging with Western guys. But she's just not a very sexual person. I do think she's willing to work hard.

I've been encouraging her to go apply for jobs at restaurants. I think her goal should be to become a waitress, but it's fine for her to start as a hostess, busgirl or dishwasher (and I've told her so).

She knows what service should be. As she's been to pretty much all the Walking Street area restaurants with me or others. She's also travelled more than most (with me).

She's promised to go and try at five places in AC that I suggest.

Can you guys suggest five places where she might stand a chance? It's two years since I've been to A. See.

Or anything else? Obviously, with her main work credential being Lollipop, a monger oriented tourist business is the only place she's likely to get anything.

Thanks,

The (former) Errol Flynn.Express laundry service. Find a coin laundromat place or a cheap full service one off the beaten path, make some business cards with an Whatsapp contact nr, and the stupid messenger that they are all using, spread them around on the Red St. Figure out the economics of it, add a surcharge, collect and deliver from mongerers at hotels, bars, restaurants. Tipps will follow.

The hotels charge too much, I take it to Mama on Vian St but most of the mongerers are too lazy, or don't know where to go.

[Jarango]

I have a female friend in Angeles. She worked at Lollipop for several years, her English is very good. * She's cute and sweet.
The (former) Errol Flynn.Your friend's basic problem is she has a poor skill set and no relevant experience. Others are suggesting entrepreneurial plans, like she is a mini mogul in the making. She isn't. Waitressing and laundry service (with bells and whistles) have been suggested. Those lower tier jobs are very hard to come by and are usually got by word of mouth through vast family networks. Both waitressing and laundry are also hard physically.

Employers will want someone with a demonstrable work ethic, which she does not have. I know women here who do and their life is hard and their pay poor. I also know hookers ho scored low paid waitressing jobs and would not hack it as they were too used suckling off the teats of foreign gran papas.

There is also the problem of looking for advice here as most here are not in those games and only know how to pop Viagra and stuck their dicks into the daughters of coconut farmers.

Even if your mate has nice tits and no tatts, she is fucked up and she needs someone to adopt her and bring her round to prospective employers if any exist. I have been down that road too. We have nothing in common with these women, who are little more that sperm spitoons for us.

On that subject, local men and Koreans seem to like to spit in public. Also, the Korean ambassador appeared outside Phillies some time ago in protest against Koreans being robbed and that is why those pot bellied guards abound. The Koreans re connected. Miss Titties is not.

Sorry to be honest but honesty is the best starting point for a job.

[Mr Enternational]

Unfortunately, once the surgeons snip out your prostate, that is the end of your mongering career. You will have to redirect your energy to other pursuits in life.I met an American monger in a brothel in Colombia who told me if I am ever in that situation to not let them cut. He said get the laser treatment instead. He got the laser and I guess by him being in a brothel is saying something. I have a friend here in Thailand who went through the prostate thing as well. He uses the jab when he wants female company.

[Errol Flynn]

Express laundry service. Find a coin laundromat place or a cheap full service one off the beaten path, make some business cards with an Whatsapp contact nr, and the stupid messenger that they are all using, spread them around on the Red St. Figure out the economics of it, add a surcharge, collect and deliver from mongerers at hotels, bars, restaurants. Tipps will follow.

The hotels charge too much, I take it to Mama on Vian St but most of the mongerers are too lazy, or don't know where to go.Thanks for the suggestion.

[Errol Flynn]

Your friend's basic problem is she has a poor skill set and no relevant experience. Others are suggesting entrepreneurial plans, like she is a mini mogul in the making. She isn't. Waitressing and laundry service (with bells and whistles) have been suggested. Those lower tier jobs are very hard to come by and are usually got by word of mouth through vast family networks. Both waitressing and laundry are also hard physically.

Employers will want someone with a demonstrable work ethic, which she does not have. I know women here who do and their life is hard and their pay poor. I also know hookers ho scored low paid waitressing jobs and would not hack it as they were too used suckling off the teats of foreign gran papas.

There is also the problem of looking for advice here as most here are not in those games and only know how to pop Viagra and stuck their dicks into the daughters of coconut farmers.

Even if your mate has nice tits and no tatts, she is fucked up and she needs someone to adopt her and bring her round to prospective employers if any exist. I have been down that road too. We have nothing in common with these women, who are little more that sperm spitoons for us.

On that subject, local men and Koreans seem to like to spit in public. Also, the Korean ambassador appeared outside Phillies some time ago in protest against Koreans being robbed and that is why those pot bellied guards abound. The Koreans re connected. Miss Titties is not.

Sorry to be honest but honesty is the best starting point for a job.I never said it would be easy. And I do disagree that they are sperm spitoons. They have many problems and failings. But that's not a sperm spitoon. There are Filipinos that work in local establishments. They don't make as much as girls who open their pussies. She knows that. But that doesn't mean her only worth as a human is as a sperm spitioon. Juts MHO.

[Sir Lancelot]

I was at Kokomoz for my usual breakfast when I got a message from the black tape dancer from Avalon I was supposed to meet last night.

'Why you ignore me?' it said.

It turns out we exchanged glances from the opposite side of the bar and I remember thinking it looked like her but she was in a dark corner so I wasn't positive. She's put a little weight on since last time (she had been super skinny) so she thought because I didn't call her over I disapproved. I didn't at all, my eyesight just isn't that great!

So after a bit of back and forth, I arranged for her to come to my room for 2000.

'Can I bring sister and cousin for drinks and pool after boom boom?' she asked.

'Just you please'.

It was good to see her again. She is the same cute, silly, fun girl she'd been two years ago. Back then I'd got a got a great video of her running up to my bed and somersaulting on to it, so we recreated it for old times sake.

Now, at the ripe old age of 21, she's a confident performer. The sex was great and her blowjob skills were 10 out of 10. Rewind two years and she was fresh to the job, very shy and timid. After we'd had sex she (completely unnecessarily) told me 'I'm sorry if I disappoint you'. Well, she didn't disappoint me then and she didn't disappoint me now.

I don't know whether it's a city-wide issue but the WiFi has been dreadful on this trip, frequently cutting out in my room or Kokomoz. Macca had experienced the same intermittent signal at Prine Asia too.

Early evening I walked to Macca's hotel and we took a Grab to Korea Town to go to a restaurant he'd researched called Kim's Kitchen. I'm a big fan of Korean BBQs and the pork and beef special we had, served with an array of tasty side dishes, plus a bottle of soju, was delicious. A pretty Filipino cooked our meat on the hotplate next to our table. The restaurant had three private rooms, the most Korean thing ever.

Macca was full of the joys of spring as he'd had a daytime encounter with the pretty girl he met outside Champagne, who had successfully managed to pop his cork.

Korea Town feels a different world from Red Street. There are motorbike lanes to ease traffic chaos, lots of new swanky hotels, KTVs and massage places that have big group photos of the girls in the window, like the soapies in Thailand. What there was a severe lack of though was bars to have a beer at. We walked up and down the street before settling in the only one we could find, Blue Moon. Although it was 7 pm it was empty. No doubt it will be busy later, full of Koreans with pretty Walking Street girls sitting obediently at their side. The bar had a good selection of Belgian bottles beers.

We Grabbed our way back to Red Street and I barfined a girl from the very first bar we went to. I try to include as much information about bars, girls and prices as I can in this diary, but unfortunately I no longer post names of the girls I barfine or sometimes even which bar they work at, because twice someone has tried to track down girls I mentioned (once on the Angeles thread and the class clown ElMexicant on the Pattaya thread).

The girl was 25 and radiated positive energy on stage, smiling almost constantly, sharing jokes with other girls and twirling around dancing. Four Korean men were sat on the front row armed with their favourite toy, a laser pen, and it was funny watching my girl trying to dodge the green dot.

I called her down for a drink (no laser pen necessary, just a thorough description to the waitress, 'the girl on the left'.

She was prettier up close, had a great smile and wasn't shy using it. She had bundles of energy too. For the sake of this diary I'll call her Lin. I couldn't resist barfining her (5000) despite the fact the night was in its infancy.

The three of us went for a few drinks at Cafe La Meilleure, enjoying watching the world go by. I saw the two young freelancers I fucked a few nights ago, who saw me but discreetly scurried past. In stark contrast two other freelancers I fucked last year came up to me and said 'I remember you!' and proceeded to find a photo on their phone of us together. It felt like they were trying to sabotage my chances with Lin, an unnecessarily aggressive thing to do I thought.

Lin proved to be a great choice. She was passionate and eager to please. I knew I was in for a good time when she pounced on top of me and deep French kissed me. Amusingly when she saw my erection she said 'is that real? Before giving me an extremely skilled blowjob, with lots of teasing.

She asked if I could wear a condom but then oddly took it off mid-fuck, so long as I promised not to cum inside her. We tried position after position, my favourite was me sat on the edge of the bed, he thrusting her hips at me as she orgasmed so loudly she probably woke the entire hotel.

She stayed for long-time and looked pretty as a picture as she slept. She was super affectionate, curling up to me and intertwining legs at every given opportunity.

Her body was so hot I struggled to sleep though. You don't need a human hot water bottle in Philippines.

[Jarango]

I never said it would be easy. And I do disagree that they are sperm spitoons. They have many problems and failings. But that's not a sperm spitoon. There are Filipinos that work in local establishments. They don't make as much as girls who open their pussies. She knows that. But that doesn't mean her only worth as a human is as a sperm spitioon. Juts MHO.I spent 219 words addressing the issue you used. You concentrated on one phrase. Be less defensive. Read the rest of my practical reply.

[Errol Flynn]

As for your friend, all we know is that she worked at Lollipop for several years. However, her best bet may be to get some sort of short vocational training for a non-bar skill that is marketable. If that is not an option, she may have to create her own job. Maybe, you can front her the capital to start as a Viagra salesgirl.Thanks. I assume the Viagra sales girl idea was / S. I hate those guys. Do you know of any vocational training she could get? She's not my current GF, but I would stake her to something like that if it had real promise.

Since you raised it, I can now get my dick hard (for 4-6 hours) by direct injecting a combination of Viagra and two other drugs directly into it with a 5/16th inch needle. But the promise the surgeons made that even if I couldn't ejaculate I could orgasm seems like bullshit at this time. If any of you are confronted with Prostate cancer, understand that while surgery is probably the most complete and preventative option, the current state of surgery in the you'S. Is likely to leave you without sexual function. The UK apparently examines the prostate mid-surgery and determines how many nerves need to be removed. But we don't do that here. Radiation has it's own problems, but there is new directed treatment that may be less sure of a a perfect result yet offer you more sex life. This is off topic, sorry. I just wish I knew it earlier.

Absolutely happy to hear any suggestions for my friend.

[Jarango]

Thanks. I assume the Viagra sales girl idea was / S. I hate those guys. Do you know of any vocational training she could get? She's not my current GF, but I would stake her to something like that if it had real promise.You are asking general questions without showing your hand. Back in the civilized world, problem teenagers are often pushed into nail salon learning. Women of a certain type spend comparative fortunes on that crap and almost all the hair salons in Walking St have been transformed into nail salons.

One of my perversions is to ask women how much their nails cost and they are far cheaper here than in the civilized world. Part time hair dressing is big too, big money in the West, pesos here.


This is off topic, sorry. I just wish I knew it earlier..Quite so. If you want to help that woman, then you have to do some serious online research and wear out some shoe leather. And front her some (serious?) cash. Here is a weak start https://www.reddit.com/r/askTO/comments/ke7tbd/former_prostitute_looking_to_change_her_life/ Of course, another issue is staying in Angeles. Hard to stay clean about this place which is devoted to sucking cock and putting legs at 10 o'clock. You've probably seen the Sopranos where Vito the cock sucker tries to go "straight" while on the lam. Not easy. And Chris "freshening up".

[WestCoast1]

Good descriptive report.


Now, at the ripe old age of 21, she's a confident performer. The sex was great and her blowjob skills were 10 out of 10. Rewind two years and she was fresh to the job, very shy and timid. After we'd had sex she (completely unnecessarily) told me 'I'm sorry if I disappoint you'. Well, she didn't disappoint me then and she didn't disappoint me now.Have learned over the many years that many pinoy feel the same. No matter how good a job they have done in my eyes, they are often quick to apologize for having not done better. This includes work outside of the bedroom. It seems to me that it is deep inside of them that they think we are so much used to a higher standard (of everything), that nothing they do measures up to the higher standard. I will PM you about this.


In stark contrast two other freelancers I fucked last year came up to me and said 'I remember you!' and proceeded to find a photo on their phone of us together. It felt like they were trying to sabotage my chances with Lin, an unnecessarily aggressive thing to do I thought.Its not a bug, its a feature. As the (real) beavers slap the water with their tails to notify their mates that trouble is coming, and the natives light fires and sent smoke signals for the same reason, filipinos might tell any girl you are with about your previous girls. They might do it in front of your face (in fact they will, they will assume you don't speak the local tongue and tell her in tagalog right in front of you). This is seen as necessary to protect the girl that you are with (her 'hore-ness' background and the fact that you are on Red St will not be important to the squealing party). Many pinoy consider doing it a matter of cultural pride. Its not that you are a foreigner, they would do it to her current pinoy boyfie also. Additionally, the same pinoy / pinay who squealed on you in front of your current girl might do it repeatedly each time he sees her for months or longer.


She asked if I could wear a condom but then oddly took it off mid-fuck, so long as I promised not to cum inside her. We tried position after position, my favourite was me sat on the edge of the bed, he thrusting her hips at me as she orgasmed so loudly she probably woke the entire hotel.Another indication that filipina still prefer skin-to-skin (a pinoy term, not mine) sex. Regardless that girls in the biz are mentioning / requiring the cover more and more for her protection (preggers and disease), many such girls prefer raw-doggin'. Most girls outside the bizness prefer the same. Interestingly, even girls in the biz who require a cover, usually only require it the first (or maybe the second) time. After that, they seemingly forget that they ever mentioned it. For most 2-week warriors, they never get past the first session with bargirls, and never discover this.

Westy still recommends that you: WEAR YOUR RAINCOAT.


She stayed for long-time and looked pretty as a picture as she slept. She was super affectionate, curling up to me and intertwining legs at every given opportunity. Her body was so hot I struggled to sleep though. You don't need a human hot water bottle in Philippines.Hahaha. Brother Lance, Westy asks: Sleeping with a naked, affectionate, sex-loving hottie and having to put up with her hotness is a problema, or a dream come true? I know fellas in my home country who would give up a wisdom tooth to have this problem.

[WestCoast1]

Thanks. I assume the Viagra sales girl idea was / S. I hate those guys. Do you know of any vocational training she could get? She's not my current GF, but I would stake her to something like that if it had real promise.

Since you raised it, I can now get my dick hard (for 4-6 hours) by direct injecting a combination of Viagra and two other drugs directly into it with a 5/16th inch needle. But the promise the surgeons made that even if I couldn't ejaculate I could orgasm seems like bullshit at this time. If any of you are confronted with Prostate cancer, understand that while surgery is probably the most complete and preventative option, the current state of surgery in the you'S. Is likely to leave you without sexual function. The UK apparently examines the prostate mid-surgery and determines how many nerves need to be removed. But we don't do that here. Radiation has it's own problems, but there is new directed treatment that may be less sure of a a perfect result yet offer you more sex life. This is off topic, sorry. I just wish I knew it earlier.

Absolutely happy to hear any suggestions for my friend.Happy that you shared this info, for anyone who might be in the difficult situation later.

[Jarango]

Absolutely happy to hear any suggestions for my friend.https://www.reddit.com/r/WomensSoccer/comments/1r1yxfy/in_a_horrific_discovery_mwsmatch_worn_shirts_are/

After posting, I saw a post about selling used football shorts, where pervs are spending big. As I said, you will have to do some serious research to see what, if anything, might suit the young lady. Angeles is full of women in crap jobs and one crap job keeping 4-5 of them in food.

[Jarango]

Two young things accosted me in Walking St on my way home. Though they offered to show me phone ID they were 19, I quickly bailed as Pinoy jails are not for me. The 19 yo new waitress in Phillies looks much older, even though she is a fresh 19 yo from Samar, having gotten the job through her captain cousin who works there. That is how it rolls, connections and hard core Social Darwinian shit.

I was going to buy 3 mini chocolate bars from kids to give to the waitress but 100 PHP was mega rip off. I did buy 20 PHP of nuts from an older gentleman who likes to watch the sports through the open window. Hard yakka.

20 PHP, hard work that is vanishing as the women are ordering online big time from their bars. Say goodbye to hawking for peanuts. Grab motorbikes also huge. Not good for the little gal, no matter how perky her tits are.

Lots of pretty ladies with their obese employees. The hard core hooker I spoke to the other night caught a Western whale early in the night and seemed happy with her catch, as did many of the couples. Romance, forget about it. Holding each other like a cop holds a prisoner.

The hookers were moved on from Phillies, not least because I complained about their smoking. Filthy habit, unbecoming in ladies but megabig here. There is money to be made in selling these hos cancer sticks.

There are plenty of good lookers if you are prepared to pay. Plenty of good lookers outside and around Phillies too if Russian roulette with getting robbed and getting STIs is your bag. And that is before you think of the kamikaze effort involved in crossing the road.

I briefly thought of opening a business here but fucking my money out an open window might be a more secure bet. What a dump.

[Sir Lancelot]

Lin stirred as soon as it got light outside. We had a long chat about her job as we lay next to each other. She told me the day before she'd been for her weekly hygiene check, something every bargirl has to do to work in the bar. Girls are made to wait five hours for their results and if they fail get given a 'bottle of red medicine'. Interestingly, girls also have weekly drug tests too, which I think is a good idea. Too many of Thailand's bargirls for example are high on yaba.

She told me about her experiences at the bar and which customers she won't go with. Our Korean friends didn't fare well in her assessment (a few girls from this bar have had bad experiences) but she said 'if they smile, sometimes I go with'. She prefers Western customers, so long as they don't smell and aren't too drunk. Which looking at the majority of guys walking down Red Street, rules half of them out.

She left at 7 am as she was hungry, so I waved her off and went back to bed. I'd struggled to sleep curled up with her as not only was her body so hot, but she took an inordinately large amount of room for such a dainty creature. I was hanging off the edge of the bed at one point. I finally got some quality sleep until midday.

After a late breakfast at Kokomoz, I met Macca for a few racks of pool. I won 3-0. After accidental potting the black ball in the final frame, Macca marched away declaring that he was never playing pool ever again. 'Don't speak to me' he said as we walked out of the bar. He'll laugh about this later I thought to myself.

I got back to my room to find room service have binned my contact lenses. This exact same thing happened last year too! Luckily I've got spares this time.

I had a lazy afternoon, reading my book, drinking coffee and killing time. My phone pinged several times with messages from one of the girls I barfined a few days ago. She has been messaging me relentlessly, asking for money for rent, food, even her lost shoes. She's new to the scene but will soon learn that pressurised tactics like this rarely work. The fact girls resort to tactics like these though, suggests there are some gullible guys willing to be an ATM.

My phone pinged again and this time it was Macca, saying he wouldn't be out tonight as he's arranged a threesome with a girl he met at QBar last year, and her fresh-faced younger sister (who doesn't work in the bars, yet had an American boyfriend for a few months). Macca told me he's put a lot of spadework in to set this fantasy up and tonight was the night it would finally happen. I sensed even as he was telling me though that he was doubtful it would go to plan.

So I headed out alone at 7. 30 pm. What would Angeles deliver me tonight?

I walked up and down Red Street and there was a commotion outside Acadia, with a big crowd gathering around a man lying flat on his back. I assumed he'd had a heart attack (easy to do with all of the alcohol and pretty girls) but ten minutes later I walked past again and he was being helped in to an ambulance as the pavement was being hosed to get rid of his blood. Out of curiosity I went in to the bar to get the gossip and apparently the man was drunk and mouthy and got flattened by the bouncer.

Acadia's lineup is somewhat typical of Angeles at night-time, mainly average but a few gems to be seen. I bought a drink for an extremely cute and petite girl with braces and saw another exquisite specimen waft past in a long red dress.

I went for a recce up and down looking for freelancers, then stopped for a beer at Cafe La Meilleure, next to the Red Street sign. Its front rail is the perfect place to overlook the comings and goings on the street but it doesn't really get lively until later. Most of the freelancers I saw were ladyboys.

Atlantis had a healthy lineup of young girls but that might not last for long. Dollhouse reopens tomorrow at 5 pm and the girl I bought a drink for said she'll be working there. A girl I spoke to at Avalon said the same thing too, so it seems there won't be an influx of new girls (yet), rather bars will be diluting their rosters.

On the street I exchanged glances with a pretty girl walking in the opposite direction, a flicker of recognition on both of our faces.

'I think I know you' I said to her. It's always fun trying to work out who a girl might be, maybe a girl I fucked on a previous trip, but the answer was closer to home. She was the pretty hello girl Macca bought a drink for at Champagne a few days earlier.

At 10 pm I walked in to Qbar. It had an average lineup but there was one pretty girl with a nice face and lovely figure. Just as I was about to call her down to join me, a bald man in a 'I <3 pek pek' T-shirt beat me to it. There wasn't much else on the stage to excite me so I gulped down my drink and left. Bar-hopping alone can be a lonely business.

I barfined at the next bar I went in to. The girl was a very dark-skinned spinner wearing a crop-top and baggy tracksuit bottoms, like she was a dancer in a hip-hop video. Her name was Ella and she was 24 from Mindanao. She was livewire too, always a promising sign, so I agreed to pay her 5000 barfine.

She had a small body with tiny tits and bullet-like nipples. The sex was passionate and she had a filthy mouth. 'Fuck me baby' she said as I pounded her in mish, 'fuck yeah'.

I made a rookie mistake afterwards.

She suggested we go to Mega, the nightclub next to the Red Street sign. I liked the idea as it wasn't long after midnight and I wasn't ready for bed. As I was getting ready and spraying myself with expensive aftershave, she added 'We meet friends from bar'. I should have heard alarm bells at that point.

So inevitably I ended up buying Ella and her two spectacularly unappreciative friends a drink. Not so much as an acknowledgement or smile, let alone a thank you, from those two charisma vacuums.

I enjoyed having a bit of a dance and ogling the gorgeous podium dancers. The music was decent but there was an annoying MC who shouted 'woooh!' and 'yeah!' at every given opportunity, which got very annoying.

I endured it for an hour before deciding that my bed was an attractive proposition after all.

[Jarango]

Peso is up, so my pecker is down. I dropped into Norma's, Cora's and a few others but what think folk of the ATM beside Phillies? How come no one has put a card reader in there to scam? My, this place is so backward.

I had a nice Thai lunch in Perimeter Road, just before Brass Monkey. Always nice to dine well and wonder what the poor are doing.

They were out on patrol, the one legged ho, the dwarf and the rest of them as I walked back to Phillies around 1500 hours. Many of them in bad need of a feed in exchange for a root. There is something so ordinary about hookers when they are in the light without their war paint.

[PhilJoy]

I briefly thought of opening a business here but fucking my money out an open window might be a more secure bet. What a dump.Yes J.

Angeles is not necessarily everyone's cup of tea. Especially not mine as I don't like to be land-locked when there's so many islands about.

It had / has a purpose, but with a little bit of research and effort, the Phils is full of other options.

Would I do AC again? I'd never rule it out if work took me that way. But I'd be giving my cash to the locals and not the Koreans who have pounced on an opportunity over time.

I'm currently getting much better results elsewhere. See recent posts / reports.

_ Phil.

[Chocha Monger]

Yes J.

Angeles is not necessarily everyone's cup of tea. Especially not mine as I don't like to be land-locked when there's so many islands about.

It had / has a purpose, but with a little bit of research and effort, the Phils is full of other options.

Would I do AC again? I'd never rule it out if work took me that way. But I'd be giving my cash to the locals and not the Koreans who have pounced on an opportunity over time.

I'm currently getting much better results elsewhere. See recent posts / reports..Yes. Angeles City has served many purposes over the years, from brothel city for Filipino cane cutters to boom-boom town for American servicemen, and now sucky-fucky playground for horny Korean salarymen.

Money has always been hard to acquire for the locals. So much so that some of the local fellas resort to becoming ladyboys and tricking drunk unsuspecting foreign grandfathers into a night of brown bussy.

Girls in the area must choose between the fast money in the sex trade or the intense competition for low-paying jobs outside the sex tourism industry. Many foreigners try their luck at starting businesses in Angeles City, but none of them claim to have become millionaires in the process. More often than not, it works the other way around.

[Jarango]

This is a real post of distinction. The cane cutters are still banging the hos, some of whom can be quite presentable when scrubbed up.

Last night, in Phillies, a bubbly call centre worker with an American accent more American than Americans have chatted me up. Even they have to supplement their pay. I called in to a bed space joint where front desk hotel receptionists stay. Sweet, scrubbed up things but they are 6 to a room.

Last night, I spotted some ads in Walking St for our prostrated friend's friend: house cleaner (certificate needed); dancers aged 18-25 only, so that rules me out unless I want to shave a few decades off my life, get a sex change operation and return to Samar aged 25 with a yabba problem and a few half breeds.

The place is depressing but it is the best many can aspire to. Footfall is a trickle and the hos quite rightly despise us: young women forced by the market's invisible hand to cavort with has been's has beens; no growing old gracefully with these losers. That is not what the women were dreaming of when they lost their virginity under Samar's coconuts trees all those summers ago.

Many of the beggars belong in Dante's Inferno, deformed and their hands, like those of the Muslim Viagra sellers an all present constant.


Yes. Angeles City has served many purposes over the years, from brothel city for Filipino cane cutters to boom-boom town for American servicemen, and now sucky-fucky playground for horny Korean salarymen. Money has always been hard to acquire for the locals. So much so that some of the local fellas resort to becoming ladyboys and tricking drunk unsuspecting foreign grandfathers into a night of brown bussy. Girls in the area must choose between the fast money in the sex trade or the intense competition for low-paying jobs outside the sex tourism industry. Many foreigners try their luck at starting businesses in Angeles City, but none of them claim to have become millionaires in the process. More often than not, it works the other way around.

[Sir Lancelot]

After breakfast I got chatting with the same Irish guy I met at Kokomoz on my second day here. His poker hasn't been going well but he still had the same big grin on his face.

We got talking about other pay-for-play destinations around Asia and he mentioned Ho Chi Minh City in Vietnam. I was only able to find a few blow-jobs in the hot-tocs and a quickie with a freelancer on a seedy alley off Bui Vien Street, but he told me about a place called Japan Town, which apparently has sex available for cheap prices. One to research.

By 1 am there are lots of pretty girls walking to and from bars on Red Street. The quality of girls seems far higher during the daytime than at night. Problem is I don't like bar-crawling during the day. The bars that are open are generally those that cater to Koreans, with lots of girls sat around waiting to be picked. I don't find them very exciting. But I remember going to Hi Quality last year early afternoon and seeing one of the best lineups I'd seen all trip.

I got back to my room mid-afternoon and my plan was to have a lazy afternoon and go for a swim perhaps. But I got restless and hastily arranged an afternoon meet with the girl I barfined on my first night, via WhatsApp. She arrived half an hour later, looking cute in a blue strappy dress and the sex was great. I wish I could call upon a little fuckdoll like her for 3000 pesos a pop back home in England.

She speaks excellent English and has taken great pride in teaching me how to count in Tagalog up to 20. She also rolled about in hysterics on the bed after teaching me 'ga go' (bullshit) and 'tang inamo' (fuck you).

Macca messaged to say he had exciting plans for me for dinner. I met him at his hotel Prime Asia and we took a grab taxi to a downtown area about 3. 5 kilometers away. It should have been a quick journey but it took over half an hour in the busy Friday night traffic as the Holy Rosary Parish Church service had just finished.

It gave us chance to catch up though and he explained that his threesome with two sisters didn't go to plan last night. The older sister left for an hour and the younger sister was too timid to do anything. She crossed her legs defensively when Macca tried to touch her, so he let her get dressed again. 'I not force you if you not want' he said. On the bright side he fucked the older sister when she returned, so not a complete washout.

Our destination was Nepo Quad, an outdoor food market with lots of stalls selling exotic food. I had takoyaki (Japanese octopus balls), kanpung (chicken in a spicy garlic sauce), Korean nyeomon beef samgy rice and a mango and cheese smoothie for dessert. Macca is more adventurous than me and ordered three skewers from a barbecue stall that included chicken anus. His verdict: rubbery.

It was an interesting place to visit with lots of restaurants and a big mall. We were the only westerners so received a lot of fuss and attention. A toothless old granny couldn't stop giggling when I said Hello, to her. We had a quick beer before taxiing our way back to Red Street.

Dollhouse reopened tonight so we were keen to see what it is like. Disappointingly it now has a rectangular stage but aside from that it's great with a big doll overlooking the stage, neon butterflies and lots of Hi energy dancing on stage. At far too many bars on Red Street the girls stand motionless so it was nice to see. The place was crowded, with every seat taken, both downstairs and on the balcony.

I bought a drink for the girl I barfined from Atlantis and noticed my afternoon short-time from Avalon a few days ago was one of the 'models' in the catwalk show. There were some gorgeous specimens on show wearing glimmering crowns, but I suspect they've been hired in especially for the opening night.

At Viking I bought a drink for a very cute 18 year old fresh to the business. She hardly spoke a word of English but her personality came through when she was fighting Macca for popcorn.

I've written a few negatives things about Koreans in this diary (from the mouths of bargirls) but they're cetainly not all bad. We watched a middle-aged Korean man take his top off and allowed two girls to dress him in a blond wig and bra, before dancing suggestively with anyone he could find. Naturally he gestured for me to join him and we ended up mock spit-roasting the ladyboy singer in the corner, to 'Another Day in Paradise. ' It's great to meet a Korean man who is willing to let his hair down and interact with other foreigners. He sent a few beers our way afterwards too. Top man.

We went to XS next and the stage was crowded with girls in sparkling dresses. I declared to Macca that I would definitely barfine one and with his help I narrowed it down to a shortlist of three, a short girl, a lively girl who kept waving to us and a unique looking girl with long wavy hair.

I opted to invite the unique looking girl down for a drink and when she sat down Macca remarked how similar her face was to his all-time favourite bargirl, Tuk-tuk from Pattaya. Sadly she was hard work. She didn't ask a single question, answered mine with one word answers and asked 'can I go now?' when she finished her drink. 'Tip for mamasan?' the mamasan said wishfully as I stood to leave.

It was nearly midnight, Macca had gone back to his hotel and I was keen to find a girl as soon as possible. I trawled up and down Red Street a couple of times looking for a freelancer but didn't see any to excite me.

Feet aching, I went in to one of the popular bars and there were 10 girls on stage. One of them was very cute, with a short fashionable haircut. She was a white tape dancer and had a slim, slender body with small tits. I called her down for a drink and she was 18 and a pleasure to talk to. She was chatty, inquisitive and had a sparkle in her eyes. I paid the 5000 barfine and she got changed in to an elegant long dress before we walked the short distance back to my hotel.

I've never been with a girl so wowed by a hotel room before. Her eyes lit up when she walked in, she took great pleasure in making foot and hand prints in the lush carpet and enjoyed gazing out of the sixth floor window.

At her insistance we showered together. She had a small, toned body with small tits and large nipples. The sex was the stuff of fantasy, a pretty young girl really going for it. We tried position after position. 'I enjoy' she said as she rode me expertly to a climax, jumping off quickly when she heard me cumming. A superstar.

[Chocha Monger]

This is a real post of distinction. The cane cutters are still banging the hos, some of whom can be quite presentable when scrubbed up.

Last night, in Phillies, a bubbly call centre worker with an American accent more American than Americans have chatted me up. Even they have to supplement their pay. I called in to a bed space joint where front desk hotel receptionists stay. Sweet, scrubbed up things but they are 6 to a room.

Last night, I spotted some ads in Walking St for our prostrated friend's friend: house cleaner (certificate needed); dancers aged 18-25 only, so that rules me out unless I want to shave a few decades off my life, get a sex change operation and return to Samar aged 25 with a yabba problem and a few half breeds.

The place is depressing but it is the best many can aspire to. Footfall is a trickle and the hos quite rightly despise us: young women forced by the market's invisible hand to cavort with has been's has beens; no growing old gracefully with these losers. That is not what the women were dreaming of when they lost their virginity under Samar's coconuts trees all those summers ago..You can't blame the Pinays for their resentment of foreigners. After all, it must be shocking for a 4 ft 10 in coconut farmer's daughter the first time she is crushed in missionary by a 6 ft tall 300-lbs monger with a Viagra and vodka fueled boner. The experience is a far cry from the night her true love, Bagsic the pedicab driver, deftly deflowered her under the coconut trees on a moonlit beach in Samar.

Ask her why she risks PTSD from being crushed and pounded on a nightly schedule by one foreigner after another, and she will invariably say, "For my family!" She sacrifices herself to satiate mongers because her family needs or wants pesos to live like foreigners do in rich whiteman land on TV.

Some fellas will say that girls trip over themselves for a bar fine and a pounding out from them because they stay in shape and look 30 years younger than their real age. But to the girls, a foreigner will never look as handsome or go as many rounds as young Bagsic the pedicab stud. Even if some White Knight saves her from the bar and supports her family, she will find a way back to Bagsic.

[Kazeu]

You can't blame the Pinays for their resentment of foreigners. After all, it must be shocking for a 4 ft 10 in coconut farmer's daughter the first time she is crushed in missionary by a 6 ft tall 300-lbs monger with a Viagra and vodka fueled boner. The experience is a far cry from the night her true love, Bagsic the pedicab driver, deftly deflowered her under the coconut trees on a moonlit beach in Samar.

Ask her why she risks PTSD from being crushed and pounded on a nightly schedule by one foreigner after another, and she will invariably say, "For my family!" She sacrifices herself to satiate mongers because her family needs or wants pesos to live like foreigners do in rich whiteman land on TV.

Some fellas will say that girls trip over themselves for a bar fine and a pounding out from them because they stay in shape and look 30 years younger than their real age. But to the girls, a foreigner will never look as handsome or go as many rounds as young Bagsic the pedicab stud. Even if some White Knight saves her from the bar and supports her family, she will find a way back to Bagsic.Another way to look at it, is that foreigners provide an opportunity to get out of poverty, to help their family. If there was no mongering, and anti prostitution laws were strictly enforced, what would they be doing? Working in the farms? Picking rice? Lounging around getting molested by their relatives, (getting molested by relatives is such a common story in the philippines). Their country / government fucked them harder than any foreigner ever could. I don't know a whole lot about Philippines history, but I've seen images of Manila in a long time ago and it was beautiful. Philippines could have been great. But too much corruption has destroyed the country.

So the way I see it is, we're giving them a chance to give us something we want to better their lives. Obviously don't mistreat them, give them what they want and you get what you want. Only people who have problems with this are people who have hangups over sex. If that's you, you probably shouldn't be on this forum.

Also there are lots of foreigners who are normal sized. Koreans also tend to be much smaller than 300 lbs.

[Goferring]

Another way to look at it, is that foreigners provide an opportunity to get out of poverty, to help their family.You're correct but the trouble is that it's a very pointy pyramid. There are thousands of girls in the hunt and probably even more guys online. But very very few of those actually find happily ever after relationships. Far more common are online promises or holiday flings.

Even those that do hook up loose a lot to shrinkage: family demands for cash; expensive tastes; infidelity. The list goes on. The girl could marry Elon Musk and there still wouldn't be enough money to satisfy all the requests.

I'd put the danger zone at 2 to 5 years. Most don't make it past that but the few that do tend to last for decades.

[Goferring]

Their country / government fucked them harder than any foreigner ever could. I don't know a whole lot about Philippines history, but I've seen images of Manila in a long time ago and it was beautiful. Philippines could have been great. But too much corruption has destroyed the country.It's very easy to explain:

In the West, work hard or take a few well placed risks and you can become successful. In the Philippines, without the right family and social connections, you are going no where. For generations, it's been drummed into the lower middle classes that regardless of how hard they work, they will never be allowed into the Club.

I'm not into Conspiracy Theories but if my efforts were going to be fruitless, I wouldn't give a shit either.

Enjoy. G.

[Old And Ugly]

You're correct but the trouble is that it's a very pointy pyramid. There are thousands of girls in the hunt and probably even more guys online. But very very few of those actually find happily ever after relationships. Far more common are online promises or holiday flings.

Even those that do hook up loose a lot to shrinkage: family demands for cash; expensive tastes; infidelity. The list goes on. The girl could marry Elon Musk and there still wouldn't be enough money to satisfy all the requests.

I'd put the danger zone at 2 to 5 years. Most don't make it past that but the few that do tend to last for decades.Lately I see hoards of feminazis arriving more and more in the PH. Even on my small island they started arriving in more increasingly numbers, and they wander around aimlessly looking for stuff that doesn't exist, probably they don't know themselves what is it that they are looking for in the first place.

We ran away from them and their toxicity to the other end of the world, and now they are following, next thing will be them trying to change things, in the name of righteousness, and the pyramid may tip over.

[Goferring]

Lately I see hoards of feminazis arriving more and more in the PH. Even on my small island they started arriving in more increasingly numbers, and they wander around aimlessly looking for stuff that doesn't exist, probably they don't know themselves what is it that they are looking for in the first place.

We ran away from them and their toxicity to the other end of the world, and now they are following, next thing will be them trying to change things, in the name of righteousness, and the pyramid may tip over.Lately I've noticed the opposite of what I was commenting on too: white women arriving to chase local guys. Very common in places like Siargao etc.

Imagine, unattractive* women fleeing to Asia to use their wealth gap to lure hot young guys. It reminds me of Bali 20 years ago where there were more Bali Cowboys than working girls.

I know: it's shocking!! Guys would never do such a thing. 😜.

G.

I shouldn't generalised too much. Amongst the white whales, there are also many cute Barbie girls having some fun away from mommy and daddy.

G.

[Sir Lancelot]

It was a drizzly lunchtime, so there wasn't as much happening down on the street in front of Kokomoz. The little dwarf fella had a plastic bag over his head as he begged for change. Interesting fact, there's a sign underneath the Red Street arch that says 'no begging'. That must be the most loosely applied rule ever written.

There was a big guy sat next to me, Jeremy from America. We were talking about Perimeter bars and he told he was planning on going to Night Moves for their 4 pm show. When I asked what it was, he said 'girls kiss and go down on each other'.

It might have been a wet day but the balloon sellers were out in full force, a reminder that tonight is Valentine's Night. It sent a shudder down my spine but then I remembered on Valentine's Night three years ago a girl from Champagne brought handcuffs to my room and went in to full role-play mode ('Would you like me to suck you Officer Lance? Maybe tonight would present me with something equally romantic?

I spent a lazy afternoon in my room, before rousing myself for another night of mischievous action. I was flying solo as Macca was feeling under the weather.

I started by visiting Crystal Palace. It was 7 pm and there were nine girls on stage, practicing a dance routine with plenty of gusto. This bar uses to be one of the top-dogs in Angeles and I couldn't help sitting there looking back with dewy-eyed nostalgia to when there used to be hundreds of girls crammed shoulder-to-shoulder on the round stage and balcony above.

The bar feels like it is still finding its feet after reopening and needs more girls. The girls were mainly average and a little older, aimed at the clientele of western expats perhaps, but there was one cute one I was tempted by. Plus I wish more girls on Red Street had tits like 219.

Bliss is a Korean-run bar on Red Street. It's very narrow and there were 15 girls, three or four of whom were definitely worth calling down for a drink. The girls stand up whenever a new customer walks in, then sit down a few minutes later, so the bar lacks atmosphere. I was tempted by a sexy girl with red hair, but opted to buy a drink for a cute dark-skinned girl who smiled whenever I looked in her direction.

The waitress appeared and said 'Red Horse for lady sir, 500 pesos?' I suspect this might be a new way of drilling customers for higher priced drinks, so I shook my head and she got a normal priced beer instead. The girl was sweet enough but a bit shy, although her limited English didn't stop her saying 'let's go' three times, pointing at the door.

I'm not usually a fan of these kind of Korean bars where the girls spend most of the time sat down, but a bar lives and dies by the quality of girls and the lineup was decent here. It was only 7. 30 pm so I suspect they'll get snapped up early.

Lollipop was packed. Every table had been taken by customers, so I parked myself on a stool next to the stage. There were 20 girls on stage and the quality was excellent. A skinny girl in knee-high pvc boots caught my attention and a demure girl with the face of a model was dancing right in front of me. But I opted to invite a cute girl down with a perfect body and shapely tits.

For reasons I've already explained, I change the names of girls I barfine in this diary, so I'll call this girl Donna. She was 22 years old and a bubbly, affectionate little thing. She laughed heartily at the sexy towel dance I showed her and said 'I'll show you sexy dance in the room'. How could I resist? Her barfine was 5000.

It was Valentine's Night and she told me she'd never received flowers in her life. What a stroke of luck then, that Lollipop had an old lady circumnavigating the bar selling bouquets of flowers? I bet all girls working tonight had been coached to say exactly that.

Thankfully when Donna reappeared, looking a million dollars in a long pink, figure-hugging dress, the flower-seller was preoccupied the far corner of the bar and I smuggled her out undetected. I was safe. For now.

It was 8. 30 pm and too early to go back to my hotel. I told her to choose a bar to go to and she chose Dollhouse as she used to work there. There was a girl onstage that I barfined from Avalon a couple of years ago, now a black tape dancer here, so I invited her down to join us. It was fun being sandwiched between two pretty girls. The Dollhouse girl was wearing a Thai style golden crown, so every time I leaned in to talk I nearly poked my eye out.

The bar has some nice girls and an old geezer who looked like Einstein was having the time of his life next to the stage. 'Big tits!' he said to his mate when one top-heavy girl catwalked past.

Me and Donna went to Avalon, where there were 15 girls, mainly average but a few cute ones in green dresses. The stage cleared and we watched a sharply choreographed dance act comprising of seven girls in white feathery outfits.

We went back to Dollhouse for a couple of tequila shots. As we downed them, my favourite Angeles song played. Hold on tight, you know she's a little bit dangerous.

Now all I had to do was run the gauntlet and get Donna the short distance back to my hotel without falling in to the cross hairs of a balloon or flower seller.

It's an amusing concept I think, buying a balloon that says 'I <3 you' to give to a girl over half your age that you met a few hours ago. A romantic gesture that would be forgotten next morning (which to be fair is a neat summation of Valentine's Day in general all around the world).

Miraculously we managed to get back to the hotel unscathed, where Donna showed me her sexy dance moves, twerking suggestively in front of the camera. She then showed me another much sexier dance on the bed. She liked to play music on her phone, so we fucked to Chris de Burgh crooning 'lady in red, she's dancing with me, cheek to cheek'.

For only the second time since I've been in Angeles, she insisted on a condom but the sex was great anyway. She showered me with kisses and it was nice to have a fuller pair of tits to grab hold of too.

A good Valentine's day.

[Jarango]

There are noticeably more Euro-American women around, whatever their game is and it cannot be shopping in the toilet bowl that is Angeles. Scenarios include: 1. Clark stopover but Google 101 would count them out of that. The Emirates trolly dollies are given experiences in Cebu, not strolls down the nightmare of Walking St. 2. student exchange programs: unlikely. 3. Missionary projects: higher probability to lock them into whatever evangelical cult they belong to. 4. Sex sleaze expose: this would be the big one. Get the dope on Walking St, a few interviews with rescuers and rescued, the Korean Mafia, some shock and awe confrontations, proper marketing and it is a world wide story for a day.

This would fit in with the ongoing military uptick in the South China Sea. For all the 100 ton Moby Dicks who think they are doing God's work by getting a crane to haul them on top of their little Samar lbfms, be aware you make great footage.

Many of these women do have the White Saviour complex, not least because they are involved in white trafficking. After I leave Angeles, I am returning to Southern Europe but wary as I met too many of those female assholes last time who think all African studs need to be saved by frigid bitches like themselves. They cannot be argued with and anything more robust will lead to being arrested.

There are plenty of nice women in low paid jobs here eking out a living but all Mr Whitey wants to do is show them pictures of their pathetic cocks, a fetish I could never understand. Bagsic, the pedicab stud, meanwhile, just fucks them stupid like they are a long distance bike ride from Cebu to Peru. If anyone ever saw the bike taxis of Burundi, they would know stamina is not an issue and that probably explains why the femi Nazis are here. Rescue one, get one free to spit roast you.

[Old And Ugly]

Lately I've noticed the opposite of what I was commenting on too: white women arriving to chase local guys. Very common in places like Siargao etc.

Imagine, unattractive* women fleeing to Asia to use their wealth gap to lure hot young guys. It reminds me of Bali 20 years ago where there were more Bali Cowboys than working girls.

I know: it's shocking!! Guys would never do such a thing. 😜.

G.

I shouldn't generalised too much. Amongst the white whales, there are also many cute Barbie girls having some fun away from mommy and daddy.

G.I don't think they come to intermingle with the local inexistent cowboys, so far I didn't see any behaving Balinese style.

The ones I see are not that ugly, some of them are fuckable, but when they open the mouth, and you realize that they know everything, it reminds me of home.

I had a young, good looking friend visiting, and he wasted his time with 2 of them for about a week, then he told me that he should had listen to me and stayed away from them, he would have been better sleeping than chasing them around, and putting up with their bullshit in the hope of getting in their pants.
I think the cowboys are in India now, around Goa, they work in teams of 5, that's where the blonde "babes" are flocking to.

[Goferring]

The ones I see are not that ugly,I would actually go the other way: most of the twenty something's that I see at the tourist beaches are seriously hot.

Of course, they aren't going to touch my rusty old ass but nice eye candy none the less.

G.

[Goferring]

There are noticeably more Euro-American women around, whatever their game is and it cannot be shopping in the toilet bowl that is Angeles. Scenarios include: 1. Clark stopover but Google 101 would count them out of that. The Emirates trolly dollies are given experiences in Cebu, not strolls down the nightmare of Walking St. 2. student exchange programs: unlikely. 3. Missionary projects: higher probability to lock them into whatever evangelical cult they belong to. 4. Sex sleaze expose: this would be the big one. Get the dope on Walking St, a few interviews with rescuers and rescued, the Korean Mafia, some shock and awe confrontations, proper marketing and it is a world wide story for a day.

This would fit in with the ongoing military uptick in the South China Sea. For all the 100 ton Moby Dicks who think they are doing God's work by getting a crane to haul them on top of their little Samar lbfms, be aware you make great footage.

Many of these women do have the White Saviour complex, not least because they are involved in white trafficking. After I leave Angeles, I am returning to Southern Europe but wary as I met too many of those female assholes last time who think all African studs need to be saved by frigid bitches like themselves. They cannot be argued with and anything more robust will lead to being arrested.

There are plenty of nice women in low paid jobs here eking out a living but all Mr Whitey wants to do is show them pictures of their pathetic cocks, a fetish I could never understand. Bagsic, the pedicab stud, meanwhile, just fucks them stupid like they are a long distance bike ride from Cebu to Peru. If anyone ever saw the bike taxis of Burundi, they would know stamina is not an issue and that probably explains why the femi Nazis are here. Rescue one, get one free to spit roast you.Just adding a couple of ponts to your lists.

5/. Lots of bi girls arrive, boyfie in tow, and make use of the available bargirls. His dreams of wild FFM threesomes are shattered when he gets locked out and the girls go it alone for the session.

Often the girls with a white saviour complex get used up themselves. It's very common for them to fall for a poor Barangay boy who could actually benefit with a leg up in society. He might even get a couple of shots away but is soon told to fuck off by the local thugs as one of them replaces him as the object of her affection and remittances.

Enjoy. G.

[Chocha Monger]

I would actually go the other way: most of the twenty something's that I see at the tourist beaches are seriously hot.

Of course, they aren't going to touch my rusty old ass but nice eye candy none the less.I don't think that they are there to make their secret dream of fucking Grandpapa a reality, but you can always ask them just in case I am wrong. LOL!

They are there mainly to show the young Passport Bros that they can travel to remote backwaters too. If a man can do it, they can do it too! And even do it better. As a bonus, they get some Instagram photos to post from an off the beaten track location to one up their friends and followers.

Let us know if you succeed in convincing them to experience a rare opportunity to shag Grandpapa under the coconut trees on a Philippine beach with crabs scurrying around.

[Old And Ugly]

I don't think that they are there to make their secret dream of fucking Grandpapa a reality, but you can always ask them just in case I am wrong. LOL!

They are there mainly to show the young Passport Bros that they can travel to remote backwaters too. If a man can do it, they can do it too! And even do it better. As a bonus, they get some Instagram photos to post from an off the beaten track location to one up their friends and followers.

Let us know if you succeed in convincing them to experience a rare opportunity to shag Grandpapa under the coconut trees on a Philippine beach with crabs scurrying around.Spot on! That's my take on it also.

[WestCoast1]

Let us know if you succeed in convincing them to experience a rare opportunity to shag Grandpapa under the coconut trees on a Philippine beach with crabs scurrying around.This one had her grandpa experience in a condo. Actually, seen here, having a post-grandpa experience.

[Jarango]

I don't think that they are there to make their secret dream of fucking Grandpapa a reality, but you can always ask them just in case I am wrong. LOL!

They are there mainly to show the young Passport Bros that they can travel to remote backwaters too. If a man can do it, they can do it too! And even do it better. As a bonus, they get some Instagram photos to post from an off the beaten track location to one up their friends and followers.

Let us know if you succeed in convincing them to experience a rare opportunity to shag Grandpapa under the coconut trees on a Philippine beach with crabs scurrying around.I do a lot of travelling and often mingle with them. Of course, thy want nothing to do with one trick mongering ponies who display their rented conquests here and who would blame them wanting to avoid such losers? Young women now have more disposable income and they have eschewed responsibilities. Go read Elizabeth Gilbert's Eat, Pray, Love: One Woman's Search for Everything Across Italy, India, and Indonesia to see where these headless chickens are. Or check out many of the books on women "hiking" America's great trails. Although Gilbert's book and others sold in the millions, they are pure shit, all about packing condoms, cadging lifts and discovering their inner plastic soul. That is the Zeitgeist amongst those kids, the bit of rough.

One of my own fetishes is asking women how much their nails costs: a day's wages in Europe and DIY here.

Not that all nails can be painted with the same brush, which is why two good looking Ossie teens with permanent scowls were in my hotel last night.

I reckon they fly into Clark and overnight before flying or bussing onwards. Fleetingly looking at the losers mongering is just a few more IG pics and is continuation of what their older sisters have been doing in Pattaya for years.

[Sir Lancelot]

Red Street is noisy during the daytime as they're paving the road. They're now up to the junction with A. Santos Road but progress is slow because each brick needs to be grinded in to the correct shape. As a result their progress is glacial, just a meter or two per day.

I had my usual breakfast at Kokomoz and marvelled at the quality of girls walking past. Early to mid-afternoon is definitely the time to score the prettiest girls in Angeles. Problem is I don't like afternoon bar-crawls.

Waiting for the lift back at my hotel I got chatting with a cute young member of staff who told me she was on her internship. We got in to the lift, joining three male members of staff and a trolley of tasty looking food. 'Did you enjoy Valentine's Night?' one of them said to me as we headed upwards, and the others giggled. He then said something in Tagalog to the intern, who went all coy and embarrassed.

Macca messaged me at 6 pm to say he'd passed a late fitness test and would be joining me on my bar-crawl tonight. We met at Monsoon at 8 pm, which used to be one of my favourite bars ten years ago. Back then the bar would be crowded with 20 girls and they'd each take a step to the left after every song, so you got a good view of them all. At that time the word barfine was prohibited so you had to buy them a bottle of 'Party Animal' instead, and that's exactly what I did for one of the cutest girls I've ever seen on Walking Street.

These days it's a shadow of its former self, but that's not to say quality can't be found. There were 8 mainly average girls on stage, but there was a lovely looking girl with a long ponytail and the next dance shift had a pretty blonde with nice curves.

We went to Lollipop and I bought a drink for the girl I barfined last night, who was looking perky in the tiny bikini she was wearing. There were 10 girls on stage, half the number of last night, and the quality was down. A game older lass was twerking suggestively at Macca.

Sitting next to us was a large serious-faced guy, sitting in silence next to a sweet little thing, half his size. He took her hand, placed it on to his cock and said 'here, do you want to talk to this instead? ' Smooth.

With comedy timing, the moment we took our stools at Viking, all the girls left the stage and the show began. Four girls slow-danced and then the ladyboy singer mimed Whitney Houston. When eventually the girls returned to the ship, there were 25 on stage and a few tempted me. One had a Japanesey look and a radiant smile. A contender perhaps.

An odd incident happened when it came to pay my bill. I'd drunk one beer, which came to 170 pesos. I gave the waitress 200 pesos and told her to keep change. 'No tip?' she said. To be fair, the waitresses in Viking are great and always make a fuss over customers, but I felt 30 pesos was more than adequate.

Deciding to pause the bars for a while, we went to Cafe La Meilleure, next to the Red Street sign. I was hungry so ordered a carbonara. There were some great looking girls entering Mega as a troop of ladyboys tried their luck on punters walking past Phillies. One of them was extremely feminine.

After I'd eaten I decided to go on a scouting mission up and down Red Street, to see if I could score myself a pretty freelancer. It's normally an easy way to meet girls but there weren't as many tonight. I saw three small, young girls who looked suspiciously young, and a few game older lasses gave me the eye. It was slim pickings tonight.

Macca and I went to XS and the number of girls was half from this time last night. There was a lovely black tape model sat on the lap of Kim Jong Un on the front row, and a few other pretty girls sat with customers. But I didn't see any to tempt me on the stage.

Macca decided to go back to his hotel, so it was time to find a girl.

I popped my head in to the curtain at Bad Boy at 11.30 pm and there were five girls on stage, one of whom, with blonde highlights in her hair, was definitely my type. I entered and bought a drink. I was the only customer in the bar, so whenever I looked at a girl, she smiled or pointed at her friend. The girl I liked the look of wasn't making eye contact though, a bad sign I thought.

Suddenly all of the girls walked off stage and sat on couches around the bar, checking their phones leaving me, Billy-no-mates staring at an empty stage. It was turning in to one of those nights.

But this one would have a twist.

Back out on the street, bars like Whisky and Dragon were beginning to close. Suddenly the spectre of a girl-free night seemed a real possibility. But then I saw a pretty girl in a leopard print top walk past, who smiled in my direction.

'Hello, where you go?' I asked.

Her name was Zia and she was 21. She was skinny and dark-skinned with a glint in her eye, the type of girl you just know will deliver in the bedroom. She told me she came part of a two girl package, and introduced me to her friend Roselle, a curvy 23 year old who wasn't as sexy but was fuckable nonetheless. The girls (whose names I have changed to protect their identity) told me they worked at Hi Quality as we walked the short distance back to my hotel, having agreed on a price of 4000.

The girls were great in the room. They gave me a double blowjob and both kissed passionately as we fucked. Problem was, the room was hot and I was too drunk, I couldn't cum. The girls, bless them, did their best, riding and sucking, and wanking me furiously, but I just couldn't finish. They left at 2 am.

Now a sensible person would have gone to sleep now but I was still horny and, as if by magic, my phone pinged. It was a cute freelancer I fucked last year, wondering where I was and if I needed company. She said she could bring her friend too. Before I really thought about it I said yes and gave my room number. Ten minutes later the bell went on my door.

I opened and they walked in. They must have both made a lot of money on Red Street in 12 months as it was striking how good they now look. Their hair, makeup, nails and clothes were all on point and they both exuded confidence.

The sex was fantastic and, hallelujah, I was able to shoot my load. From struggling to find one girl tonight I'd fucked four. A happy ending.

[Old And Ugly]

I do a lot of travelling and often mingle with them. Of course, thy want nothing to do with one trick mongering ponies who display their rented conquests here and who would blame them wanting to avoid such losers? Young women now have more disposable income and they have eschewed responsibilities. Go read Elizabeth Gilbert's Eat, Pray, Love: One Woman's Search for Everything Across Italy, India, and Indonesia to see where these headless chickens are. Or check out many of the books on women "hiking" America's great trails. Although Gilbert's book and others sold in the millions, they are pure shit, all about packing condoms, cadging lifts and discovering their inner plastic soul. That is the Zeitgeist amongst those kids, the bit of rough.

One of my own fetishes is asking women how much their nails costs: a day's wages in Europe and DIY here.

Not that all nails can be painted with the same brush, which is why two good looking Ossie teens with permanent scowls were in my hotel last night.

I reckon they fly into Clark and overnight before flying or bussing onwards. Fleetingly looking at the losers mongering is just a few more IG pics and is continuation of what their older sisters have been doing in Pattaya for years.I'm proud of being a degenerate looser!

[PhilJoy]

Red Street is noisy during the daytime as they're paving the road. They're now up to the junction with A. Santos Road but progress is slow because each brick needs to be grinded in to the correct shape. As a result their progress is glacial, just a meter or two per day.

The sex was fantastic and, hallelujah, I was able to shoot my load. From struggling to find one girl tonight I'd fucked four. A happy ending.Sounds like Sabang Lance, and the ongoing paving work, visit after visit, but they finally got it done.

As for 'beautifying' Red / Walking Street with new paving, it's been going on for a while and it's hard to polish a turd.

Bedding four is definitely more progressive.

_Phil.

[Sir Lancelot]

After last night's exertions I slept until midday and still felt tired when I pulled myself from my slumber.

I met Macca at SM Mall for a coffee at Starbucks before double-checking the Genesis bus-times for tomorrow's journey to Manila Airport. Buses depart pretty much hourly throughout the day and go directly to the airport (1 hour 45 minutes) for 430 pesos.

Macca made the observation that girls are laser-focused in the mall and it's difficult to get eye contact. Seconds later a pretty young girl approached him and said Hi handsome and held her hand out for a tip.

We had a tasty meal at a ramen restaurant before walking back to Fields Avenue, where we finished our annual pool contest. I won the two games I needed to triumph 10-5. I didn't play particularly well, just made less mistakes.

It was a stiflingly hot day so I was happy to get back to my room and its air-con.

I sent a WhatsApp message to a cute little spinner I barfined from Genesis a year ago (and when I say little, I mean little, she's tiny). She arrived half an hour later for the agreed 3000 short-time price and looked cute as ever, even with a big dragon tattoo on her arm. She's a doppelganger for Nui the Nymphomaniac, one of my all-time favourite Thai girls.

It was good to see her again. She told me she only worked on Red Street for two months, before getting a job at a KTV in Korea Town. It's easy to see why. The daily salary at both is 1200 but at the KTV she receives 600 pesos per hour she spends chatting / singing with a customer. She told me that quite often Korean men will buy a big bottle of soju (2500), for which she gets half, and spends 3-4 hours with her, so she can easily make 4-5000+ a night, without spreading her legs.

Fortunately for me, she also does occasional freelance meets and the reason I wanted to see her again is I remembered what a great service she provided 12 months ago. She didn't disappoint. She was a passionate, enthusiastic performer. As she was so tiny I enjoyed lifting her up and fucking her standing up.

After waving her on her merry way, I had a shower and a shave. An hour later I was heading out for my last night in Angeles.

I met Macca outside Kokomoz at 8 pm and we decided to give Bar Nana a go. I seem to remember this bar was talked about a few years ago, but it was dismal tonight, with hardly any customers and four bored looking girls on the stage. In the time it took me to finish my drink, four customers popped their head through the curtain and left without entering.

We went to Acadia and there were three very pretty girls. I bought a drink for a lovely looking girl in a white elegant town, while Macca ogled a pretty girl who had an uncanny resemblance to his girlfriend's 14 year old daughter. She was wearing jeans on, a sign she'd already returned from a short-time.

It was Monday night and the street was much quieter. There were fewer girls and fewer customers.

An example of this was Viking. Normally it's packed inside and the stage is crowded with girls, but tonight it felt sleepy. There were 20 girls but unusually no strong candidates for a barfine. My favourite girl was a smily girl I'd flirted with on a previous visit, but she was clinking glasses with a white-haired guy on a table nearby.

We went to Cafe La Meilleure to survey the freelancers walking past but that was pretty slow-going too. It's worth pointing out though that rewind exactly a week ago and I scored a dream threesome at about this time on Monday night. The freelance scene by its very nature requires a bit of luck and being in the right place at the right time.

We got chatting with two middle-aged English guys, Pete and Mick, visiting Angeles for the very first time. We gave them a few bar recommendations and told them about the best way to get back to Manila airport.

Amusingly Macca warned them that I'm a 'beast'.

'He's a sexual pervert!' he continued, harshly.

I pointed out that it was him, not me, taking his pretty 14 year old stepdaughter to a cheerleading competition in Germany in a few days time.

We squared our bill and headed to our last bar of the trip.

There were 15 girls on stage at XS and a few were certainly barfine material. As a result, I decided that I would definitely pick one of them. The barfine situation here is a bit complicated. Girls in white gowns are 7000, black tape dancers are 6000 and girls in pink or green dresses are 5000. There was one girl in each category that interested me and it was a nice change that my favourite fell in to the 5000 category.

She was small and cute with highlights in her hair but the reason I chose her is that she had a bubbly, infectious personality on stage (a rarity at XS) which often translates to a good service in the bedroom. She was 19 years and super-enthusiastic when we started chatting.

Macca and I said our tearful farewells. I'm off to Thailand tomorrow, he's off to a cheerleading competition in Germany. It had been a pleasure spending time with him and we agreed it had been a great trip.

My girl reappeared wearing a tight leopard-print dress and we went straight back to my hotel. The sex was great and she looked incredibly sexy riding me, a 10/10 in my books. She posed for lots of sexy photos on the bed afterwards ('oh my god, is that me? ) and I sent he on her way with a well-deserved tip.

After she left I started to pack, ahead of tomorrow's travel day to Thailand.

I've really enjoyed Angeles. I fucked 15 girls in 9 days, 7 from the gogo bars, 4 freelancers and 4 contacts from previous trips. The standard of girls was excellent, the sex out of this world.

Despite the negativity that can often be read on this forum, Angeles always delivers. Napa loves to suggest that people who rave about Angeles are just lying or exaggerating, yet this is my fourth trip in three years, which speaks for itself.

I'll be back again for sure.

Footnote:

I post this diary with a one week delay, so I'm in Pattaya now. It's busy and lively and I've added 11 more notches to my bedpost, including undoubtedly one of the prettiest girls I've fucked in Asia from a modest bar on soi Buakhao, and another girl yesterday from soi 6 with biggest natural tits I've buried my face in to (DCups would have approved). Sadly I don't post my diary on the Pattaya page any more as it is policed by far too many tedious expat know-it-alls who seem to resent anyone posting reports that includes lots of fucking. Post anything on that page and you get piled on by dreadful people, desperate to score points and gleefully tell you everything you're doing wrong. Most of them have just forgotten what it's like to have fun in Thailand. Anyway, rant over, thank goodness this Angeles page (with the obvious exception of Napa) is a well-meaning and honest exchange of information and thoughts. Keep up the good work gents.

[Jarango]

Things are picking up as the dandruff is falling off. The Walking St upgrade continues as it is a major scam and of no commercial or other use. There are anti corruption marches today in Manila but bless their hearts.

I saw Flower lady today. My, the years are battering her. One or two more and she will look a right old hag, with the jaw dropping and so on. Poverty does not age gracefully.

That MacArthur crossing by Macdo will be the death of me, literally. More near misses. I have already dragged one driver out of his car but I reckon folk here play the numbers, much like wildebeest in Africa. They figure some must be taken down but hopefully not them, whereas we prefer rules of the road to rule. As for the waving motorbikes and the sudden parking and you turns. And those death spikes on the trike rims are straight out of Gladiator, cut your leg in two.

I passed a Korean and two Pinays on their way into Sunlight for a 3 some, I gave them a shout out and wished them good luck, the ladies with a tip and him with what he paid for. Spread the love.

I am trying to lay off the food and drink as his place is inimical to real action and the spare tyre grows. Though I don't drone on about it, Perimeter Road is a good food bet and I might walk as far as Veterans HQ soon for the walk.

For those of you contemplating a visit, contemplate the never ending traffic and the grating of the motorbike engine and the smell of gasoline early in the morning.

There are plenty of roses in the garden but most only know the compost heap.

[Jarango]

(If you know, you know). As promised, I walked up Perimeter Road to the US Vets bar and treated myself to some good grub. Not a bad place.

That said, the rest of Perimeter Road looks like a dystopian graveyard, where you have to kick the go go girls to get their attention. Siesta time siempre. This place has really gone downhill since I got the mother of all bonks from a bar fie here many moons ago. If Walking Street looks like the Luftwaffe have strafed it, then they use Perimeter Road for bomb runs.

That said, you have a few sad bars, food joints and sundry BS popping up in the unikeliest of corners, like roses on a dung heap. The place is like a permanent siesta in Berlin 1945. That said, I saw two whitey north European couples on my way back. Deffo waiting for a Clark flight and beng sold some BS about vibrant Angeles.

Which, as far as we are concerned, is one pathetic street they are still paving over as of 15.00 hours Monday 23 Feb. The traffic and kerbs are not so much the straw that will break the camel's back but the corruption that will break your ankles and more.

The hos? Like out of central casting from a the list Hollywood movie. All cheap, tight dresses and cigarettes.

The positive is if you get back to your room without cracking a bone, you are ahead. Boners? It does the opposite to me.

[Jarango]

Had to take a walk up there at night. It is uber sketchy. I passed the Hercules gay club, which was in its ideal setting: dark and dangerous. The restaurants around it reminded me of the one famously used in the hit in Godfather1.

There are a few expat drinking joints in the side streets, older guys and their molls settled in for an end of the rainbow life of Red Horse, booze and talk. OK I'd say if you want to booze up at a steady rate.

On the way back, a psychotic broad who is a feature in Walking St gave me a come on. She was probably hot back in the day. I increased my pace back to Macarthur which I crossed. I feel there is a trike, bike or truck out there with my name on it. Send no flowers, unless you buy them from one of the babes doing short time.

[PhilJoy]

I've really enjoyed Angeles. I fucked 15 girls in 9 days, 7 from the gogo bars, 4 freelancers and 4 contacts from previous trips. The standard of girls was excellent, the sex out of this world.

Despite the negativity that can often be read on this forum, Angeles always delivers. Yet this is my fourth trip in three years, which speaks for itself.

I'll be back again for sure.Great reports Lance.

As mentioned previously, it's not my favorite place, and mainly because it's not a pretty place, or by the water. And the bars are not my go-to.

But I've done well there on my few visits to coincide with work, especially with FL's and the blow bars.

Everyone has their own preferred playgrounds.

If it works for you, that's all that matters.

Especially with a success rate like that.

_Phil.

[Old And Ugly]

Great reports Lance.

As mentioned previously, it's not my favorite place, and mainly because it's not a pretty place, or by the water. And the bars are not my go-to.

But I've done well there on my few visits to coincide with work, especially with FL's and the blow bars.

Everyone has their own preferred playgrounds.

If it works for you, that's all that matters.

Especially with a success rate like that.

_Phil.I think in AC is impossible not to be successful, even if you don't intend to, you'll get fucked as soon as you set foot outside. The burden is on you not to give up to temptation until you find exactly what you're looking for.

[D Cups]

soi 6 with biggest natural tits I've buried my face in to (DCups would have approved). Where in Soi 6? I wifed up her but.

[Jarango]

I took my one legged love in to Phillies for a drink. She knows how to play footsie with her hands. She told me she does not fuck for money but her sister and her pal, whom she summoned over and tried to pimp to me (2 K php), does. She showed me videos of her rehab sessions, kicking plastic ball, hard life. Her hands are rough as fuck, moving around on crutches all day.

Chatted to a 20 yo bar girl, who told me they had one customer and 20 girls and bonking is easy money. Protestant work ethic not strong with this lot.

Speaking of which, there was a massive invasion of American evangelicals at night, at least three groups of 30 each, all very noticeable, doing prayer services outside Phillies and walking down Walking St as I guided a 1.5 k short time /2 k long time beauty down behind them.

My little sinner was eager for action, She came into Phillies and spent a happy 20 minutes there swinging out of my dick. We promised eternal love to each other on the way back. She was very eager for action and cowboyed me bareback. Ride them cowgirl. I came inside her, after which she again swore she wanted to marry me to get away from the life. (She can clean). Alas, her mother is very sick and was in constant contact with her, waiting on my money to buy her medication (at 1 am), as none of the other 13 siblings would pay, so it was left to my tart with the heart (and tiny boobs), who had been a go go girl. 23 years old, skinny, more a boiled chicken than a roast.

I saw the crazy lady again as one of my hotel mates was giving her some coin, She then vanished behind Johnnys may be headed for Sunlight, It must be tough turning tricks when you are so Skid Rowish, Too much, even for me.

[Jarango]

After returning to my hotel from a haircut and spotting more evangelicals on the prowl, who do I see coming out of another room but the love of my life from last night? I am distraught. Is there an agony aunt I can write to?

Summarizing the conversations from the hookers and vendors, the ladyboys seem to be getting a very bad rep and they are the main cause of the guards outside Phillies.

The room I currently occupy was formerly occupied by a Korean who was drugged and robbed of all by a ladyboy. The Korean ambassador led a protest outside Phillies and the Koreans objected to one of their number being shot dead in Korea town. Takes all types.

The good days, if they ever existed, are long gone in Angeles. Hooker numbers are at 25% pre Covid. The Walking St paving continues but they are paving over their nothingness, real lipstick on a pig. I think you would have to be nuts to invest serious $$ here. Most Korean joints, I reckon, are fronts for organized crime. There might be money in ferrying planes full of Koreans over here and controlling their spending ln golf, women, wine and song, But it is increasingly a cheap man's experience.

My darling wattsapped me this morning, We might meet again,. If you've seen the movie Casino, she is my cut price Ginger.

[Chocha Monger]

I took my one legged love in to Phillies for a drink. She knows how to play footsie with her hands. She told me she does not fuck for money but her sister and her pal, whom she summoned over and tried to pimp to me (2 K php), does. She showed me videos of her rehab sessions, kicking plastic ball, hard life. Her hands are rough as fuck, moving around on crutches all day.

Chatted to a 20 yo bar girl, who told me they had one customer and 20 girls and bonking is easy money. Protestant work ethic not strong with this lot.

Speaking of which, there was a massive invasion of American evangelicals at night, at least three groups of 30 each, all very noticeable, doing prayer services outside Phillies and walking down Walking St as I guided a 1.5 k short time /2 k long time beauty down behind them.

My little sinner was eager for action, She came into Phillies and spent a happy 20 minutes there swinging out of my dick. We promised eternal love to each other on the way back. She was very eager for action and cowboyed me bareback. Ride them cowgirl. I came inside her, after which she again swore she wanted to marry me to get away from the life..One of my friends used to root a girl born bereft both legs. He swore that the gods gifted her a puss that was tighter than a plum so she would never lack men's love. She didn't use crutches, as she was skilled walking around on her prosthetic pegs in the place of legs.

Were the American evangelicals successful in getting any mongers to repent of their wickedness, drunkenness, and debauchery? It sounds like they had traveled far and put a lot of energy into saving the lost sheep on Walking Street. It would have been interesting if a few mongers tossed away their pints and Viagra pills, as they fell on their knees repenting all harlotry. It could have been a good opportunity for stranded mongers to be saved with a ticket back home to God's Land.

[Jarango]

God's army were hard at it tonight, Groups of 10-15 on constant patrol. Maybe the Rapture is here and it is time for the righteous of Angeles to be beamed up and the rest to be left to wallow in their sins.

One well known character wth Jesus splattered all over his t shirt was in Phillies trying to proposition the nutty woman and save her soul as well in a 2 for one deal. Jesus man thinks these hos and peanut sellers should invest their savings wisely, I spoke to the crazy lady later and she is finding tricks hard to come by. Seems nice but decades of chasing poon in Angeles has done her looks no favours.

Elmer Gantry is a great movie and a greater book, based on true events both then and now https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-jMX3AqB5aU

[Nite_Runner]

Folks,

Just returned from a 13+ day trip, my report is as follows. Please note I have included some notes that have been previously reported or widely known by many of you; however, continued messaging is never a bad thing to ensure the "newbs" understand the complex RoE of AC.

ROK Influence. Heavy influence / activity on both sides of Walking Street, as many bars are now RoK-owned, also massage and laundry places on numerous street corners. After speaking with a few bar owners and some of the older mama-sans, I will go on record stating that within the next 4-5 years, there will be a significant migration to Subic as the ROKs will only continue the encroachment on either end of Walking Street. One additional comment. The level of disdain the girls have for the RoKs continues to grow exponentially and will also force the "inventory" to migrate south as well. I spoke to a few girls in Subic who have already made the migration, and they have zero interest in returning to AC.

On a positive note, the additional laundry places make it highly convenient to get clothes washed cheaply, no need to overpack. One trick. I get my clothes washed prior to returning, as that is one less task I have to address when I return to DC. I've been using "Momma Dear" for years as I have even taken some small repairs for her to address as well. Certainly, cheaper than DC prices.

Big Thumb Pharma. Across from McDs (McArthur BLVD). Great place to pick up Doxy, Z-Pak and Cefixime. Note: Please review the Z-Pak dosage as it's wildly different from the standard 5-day regimen. Hence the cheaper price.

Bars. I spent time in just about every bar on the street and I have to say that Viking had the best talent (with the best attitude). My buddy pulled a few from Viking and did quite well for the level of talent. However, he spent too much. It was his first time in PI so I gave him a bit of leeway while also reminding him that he must be cautious with each transaction. He learned the phrase "death by a thousand cuts" as he was getting inundated by several girls, etc asking "buy me drink, buy me drink. " Yes, the girls and wait staff pegged him instantly as a "newb" and took advantage of the situ when I departed.

One key observation I noticed in more than one bar location is that the RoKs tend to hit the bars at 4 p (or as soon as the talent arrives) to quickly be / F the top-tier talent. BL if you want a repeat from the night before, reserve early as the RoKs are shopping early for top-tier talent. Another nugget is to make side deals with the mama-sans, even get their W / A numbers / info as many are keen to make deals.

Talent in your room. I can't emphasize enough the importance of sanitizing your space / room BEFORE you hit the streets. I heard from more than one EXPAT of problems with girls stealing stuff. The EXPATS were under the impression that upon arrival of their talent, the hotel would take the girls' ID once on property, and they would get a call once the girl departed to ensure all was well, and that was clearly not always the case. One dude lost $1 K USD.

Massages. There seem to be massage places on every street corner offering all types of services, with more under construction. Let me share that these are "hidden gems" if you do not want to deal with the Bars / Mama-sans. I saw some solid 7's working in some of the massage places. No BF, "try before you buy", and it's a great way to determine personality / attitude with minimal cash outlay. IOW. Tremendous value with minimal risk.

ABC Beach Club. We hit ABC one afternoon (1300) and ended up extending until 2100 and truly had a blast. Two buds and I rented a cabana (#1 is the best location) with several bottles of booze and food. One of my peeps had some local connections and was able to have 8-10 girls join us. I have the MGRs W / A if any of you want to inquire. Total bill was 30 K. Sounds like a lot; however, this event was truly the highlight of the trip and, divided by two other peeps, made it very palatable.

Cash / ATM. There is an ATM in the back of the 7-11 (same road as the Wild Orchid) that allows you to pull 20 K per transaction. I also ordered local currency (500 USD) as this takes some of the pressure off after landing, especially if you plan to hit the streets. I do not like having to search for ATMs or get cash immediately after landing. As I have shared in other posts, I have accounts with Schwab and Fidelity that I also use for cash, as there is no fee for withdrawals. My daily limit is $1,500, which certainly comes in handy when traveling internationally.

Restaurants. Tequila Reef was the best by far. We ate there almost daily (mostly breakfast, sometimes dinner). Highly recommend. We did go to Kokomo's for breakfast one day, don't waste your time as it was below average at best.

Swiss Chalet. Ate there a couple of times for nostalgia, more so than anything. Food was good, and the owner mentioned the place is up for sale.

Johnny's Supermarket. Certainly, the best place to get snacks, water, and booze. Can't beat the service, and the prices are comparable.

Grab app. Works fantastically in Manila and AC area. Highly recommend downloading the app.

Stay safe.

N_R.

[Jarango]

Folks,

Just returned from a 13+ day trip, my report is as follows. Please note I have included some notes that have been previously reported or widely known by many of you; however, continued messaging is never a bad thing to ensure the "newbs" understand the complex RoE of AC.N_R.Excellent report, giving the facts as you see them. This adds to general knowledge, mine included. It should probably be in an Angeles Mongering 101 module. Here is a.

"Walking Street Project Explained. Progress Report #angelescity" https://youtu.be/cxVIT2kwU94?si=ODlr2bwur7MIXiR_ just to show what all the fuss about this lipstick on a pig is. If they were not corrupt and wished to increase footfall, they would fix the surrounding streets, even out the sidewalks, install some lighting and get the 101 basics right.

[TomGrand]

Footnote:

I post this diary with a one week delay, so I'm in Pattaya now. It's busy and lively and I've added 11 more notches to my bedpost, including undoubtedly one of the prettiest girls I've fucked in Asia from a modest bar on soi Buakhao, and another girl yesterday from soi 6 with biggest natural tits I've buried my face in to (DCups would have approved). Sadly I don't post my diary on the Pattaya page any more as it is policed by far too many tedious expat know-it-alls who seem to resent anyone posting reports that includes lots of fucking. Post anything on that page and you get piled on by dreadful people, desperate to score points and gleefully tell you everything you're doing wrong. Most of them have just forgotten what it's like to have fun in Thailand. Anyway, rant over, thank goodness this Angeles page (with the obvious exception of Napa) is a well-meaning and honest exchange of information and thoughts. Keep up the good work gents.I read a few of your posts in that forum. The Western saloon theory, etc. You advise others to ignore the negativity and continue to post. Maybe one day you'll come back and post a few there again.

On a side note, whatever the heck you're eating or doing seems to be working health wise. That's a lot of notches in the bedpost from AC and Pattaya in a relatively short timeframe.

[TomGrand]

Talent in your room. I can't emphasize enough the importance of sanitizing your space / room BEFORE you hit the streets. I heard from more than one EXPAT of problems with girls stealing stuff. The EXPATS were under the impression that upon arrival of their talent, the hotel would take the girls' ID once on property, and they would get a call once the girl departed to ensure all was well, and that was clearly not always the case. One dude lost $1 K USD.

Massages. There seem to be massage places on every street corner offering all types of services, with more under construction. Let me share that these are "hidden gems" if you do not want to deal with the Bars / Mama-sans. I saw some solid 7's working in some of the massage places. No BF, "try before you buy", and it's a great way to determine personality / attitude with minimal cash outlay. IOW. Tremendous value with minimal risk.
Sanitize the room, haha. At first I was thinking something else completely, however your comment makes sense. That's a lot to lose.

Glad to see the comment on massage parlors. I like massages locally and haven't tried many PH places.

[PhilJoy]

Sanitize the room, haha. At first I was thinking something else completely, however your comment makes sense. That's a lot to lose.


Folks, Talent in your room. I can't emphasize enough the importance of sanitizing your space / room BEFORE you hit the streets. I heard from more than one EXPAT of problems with girls stealing stuff. The EXPATS were under the impression that upon arrival of their talent, the hotel would take the girls' ID once on property, and they would get a call once the girl departed to ensure all was well, and that was clearly not always the case. One dude lost $1 K USD.Great report NR.

After many trips, and I mean many, I've never had anything removed from the room by a girl, and as you point out, it's due to planning in advance.

I always keep any girl cash or tips in the pages of a book which I give them after the performance is complete, and which I can 'afford' to lose.

As for other valuables, I normally carry a lot of cash but this might change moving forward. This is normally concealed in a weighted book safe. Just google it. No pina is going to seem interested in reading about fishing in Australia.

I also carry at least two different debit / credit cards as a back-up. I keep them separate in the event I lose one or one gets stolen. One I keep in the room safe or elsewhere.

Yes, it's all about pre-planning and getting a routine in order.

My advice would be don't ever put all your eggs in one basket ie: a room safe. Because once it's all gone, you're f*cked.

I asked my latest cutie from Cebu if she ever felt nervous about meeting strangers in their rooms. She said, yes, but she had an exit plan if things turn to shit. That revolved around taking a run for it when the pissed / drunk foreigner went to the CR.

She also said, that's when the girls pounce, either spiking drinks or looking for cash. A threesome is always a distraction, and while it sounds great, it might prove costly. They work as team. A few girls in Sabang were notorious for ripping off foreigners. And when the foreigner passes out for the night, cross your fingers everything's still there in the morning.

Including the girl _ Phil.

[Expat American]

Great report NR.

After many trips, and I mean many, I've never had anything removed from the room by a girl, and as you point out, it's due to planning in advance.

.In over 20 years of mongering internationally I have never had anything stolen by a girl. Most girls are honest. They may beg for money but will not steal. But to my advantage I never get drunk with a hooker, I do put my valuables in a safe and I just keep enough cash to pay her inside the bed side drawer. I've never had my water spiked or anything like that and even if they did, there would be nothing to steal unless they cracked the safe. Plus, many hotels keep the girls ID so they know they can't get away with that shit. But again, 99% of the girls are honest and just trying to make a living. Yes, they may try the sick buffalo stories and they lie a lot but they are not outright thieves based on my long experience.

[Old And Ugly]

In over 20 years of mongering internationally I have never had anything stolen by a girl. Most girls are honest. They may beg for money but will not steal. But to my advantage I never get drunk with a hooker, I do put my valuables in a safe and I just keep enough cash to pay her inside the bed side drawer. I've never had my water spiked or anything like that and even if they did, there would be nothing to steal unless they cracked the safe. Plus, many hotels keep the girls ID so they know they can't get away with that shit. But again, 99% of the girls are honest and just trying to make a living. Yes, they may try the sick buffalo stories and they lie a lot but they are not outright thieves based on my long experience.Same here, I always take precautions, but never had a problem, and my favorite setting is 2+. Only one time long long ago in AC I may had a spiked drink, which I didn't really drink it, but I'm not 100% sure I wasn't just paranoid.

25 years ago in Budapest I was drugged, by 2 beauties in a bar, but as soon as I felt it I took off alone and make it to my hotel next door, just in time before passing out.

[Jarango]

I asked one of the tourist police outside Phillies about this and he said ALL ladyboys, every last one of them, are problematic and that many of the women are too. I guess it is like all tourist areas in that they hush it up. My want to be cop says it needs people to file reports against the ladyboys (for all the good that will do).

Koreans were hitting the bars early Sunday morning, going through the bars like they were in search of their favourite dim sim.

I got very sick from a mixture of Saturday's beer and Sunday's food, so over, out and back to bed.

[Flyboy 2000]

25 years ago in Budapest I was drugged, by 2 beauties in a bar, but as soon as I felt it I took off alone and make it to my hotel next door, just in time before passing out.Well done on that level of awareness! I had something almost identical happen in Moscow at the tail end of a business trip. In a bar, chatting with a local girl who was not your set-off-the-alarms supermodel but more like a pretty girl next door who scrubbed up really well. After a drink, her friend 'just happened' to walk into the bar, joins us and brings over another round of drinks.

As somebody who is familiar with fairly potent sleeping pills, after a long sip or two I noticed the start of that very familiar feeling of haziness and dis-location with the world, sort of the beginning of sliding into a foggy dream state, and right away the alarm bells went off, so I made some excuse to make a phone call outside or something, quickly found my way back to my hotel which has fortunately only a few doors away. The cold night air helped sharpen things up enough, but when I hit the bed the drink hit me. Scary stuff!