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Admin
01-01-07, 02:00
Thread Starter.

Fastpiston
01-01-07, 08:45
Yeah, just had the same experience. Sort of ridiculous!
But I didn't go out, took my dinner anyway, since I like it there.
And the girls are fast and friendly.

In Paris you'll still pay 5-7 times the money.

Cheers!

Your last sentence is the classic approach that ruins markets. Any market.
I am beginning to suspect you are the Dollhouse owner.

If you are not,remember, you are in Philippines, SO PAY PHILIPPINE PRICES!!! Please!
Otherwise you will see the Dollhouse type prices inflation. Enough to give Bernanke a serious heart attack and put interest rates up to 100%!!

Ekspat
01-01-07, 09:32
I am beginning to suspect you are the Dollhouse owner.Thank god I'm not, but the idea is a nice New Years Joke. :D

If you are not,remember, you are in Philippines, SO PAY PHILIPPINE PRICES!!!I am in Angeles!! A tourists playground!!
FP, do you really think, you'll get Philippine prices in Mo's place, Edelweiss or Subdelicious etc pp?
Okay, those places are now 20% cheaper than DH, but still far away from Philippine prices and thats true for the western food as well as for the Philippine dishes. If you want Philippine prices, try it at least 3km away from Fields. You might get Chicken/Rice for 30ps, but I don't go for it.

And with all respect, I think neither you nor anyone else in these forums is in the right position to tell me, what I have to do with my money. Understood? ;)

Cheers and a happy new year!

Aussiec
01-02-07, 02:50
I will be in Angeles on 2-7-07.

Any suggestions for a newbie?

Germano123
01-02-07, 09:27
Please understand one thing.

Again and over again, many people are not understanding that you should think of the local price rates and do not compare always with the prices in your expensive countries.

This is the reason, that we always hear: where the Americans (for example, but this is so typical) go, the prices go up and they ruin the place for the other tourists from other countries. This has not to be, if people would consider the local rates and dont overpay.

But how much was this said, and always there is someone coming with the stupid sentence: dont tell me what i should do with my money. bullshit. Think a little bit.

Fastpiston
01-02-07, 12:45
Thank god I'm not, but the idea is a nice New Years Joke. :DI am in Angeles!! A tourists playground!!
FP, do you really think, you'll get Philippine prices in Mo's place, Edelweiss or Subdelicious etc pp?
Okay, those places are now 20% cheaper than DH, but still far away from Philippine prices and thats true for the western food as well as for the Philippine dishes. If you want Philippine prices, try it at least 3km away from Fields. You might get Chicken/Rice for 30ps, but I don't go for it.

And with all respect, I think neither you nor anyone else in these forums is in the right position to tell me, what I have to do with my money. Understood? ;)

Cheers and a happy new year!

My Dear Friend, you of course should spend your money however you like. You are welcome to flush your money down the toilet and I will say, no problem at all.
When it does concern me however, is when some individuals spoil the market for everyone else by trying to get attention and play 'Big Rich Sugar Daddy'. When such people are about, girls, bars and associated rstaurants get very greedy and within a very short time the place is spoiled. This phenomena of Big Rich Sugar Daddys has spoiled the market in lots of places elsewhere in Asia.

Blink157
01-02-07, 15:39
Hi guys,
Im still in ac and I m curious bout the thai massages offered in ABC hotel.

With hanky panky or without??
Any expereinces?? Please share or PM me. I got a terible flue and still suffer , no alcohol for me , only bum2 hehehehe.. :D

My experience in Agassya is so so. I took one of the stunners out, nothing happens. I complained to mama san an she gave me another gurl.

Im focus on one gurl there, but it seems she has mens since 2 month :D hahahaha..well I have other gf to play with :D

Ok, any info on the massage there please post, I go there now and take a look myself. Hope I wont laugh to much at the frontdesk with their nice blue uniform trying to make an impression cause the standard room is 5000 p plus tax (hahahahaha) and then the name ABC asian b(itch)each club. WTF is the beach??
I guess Taiwanese and koreans are blind :D or maybe they think its a gud deal to stay there for 100 US plus plus....


Happy hunting!!!

Blink

HenryV
01-02-07, 16:37
I agree with Fastpiston.

Rewarding good service is one thing, being perceived as a fool (in their cultural terms) is quite another.

Overspending in the Philippines is tantamount to littering, it spoils the ambience for everyone.




My Dear Friend, you of course should spend your money however you like. You are welcome to flush your money down the toilet and I will say, no problem at all.
When it does concern me however, is when some individuals spoil the market for everyone else by trying to get attention and play 'Big Rich Sugar Daddy'. When such people are about, girls, bars and associated rstaurants get very greedy and within a very short time the place is spoiled. This phenomena of Big Rich Sugar Daddys has spoiled the market in lots of places elsewhere in Asia.

Husky Babalin
01-02-07, 17:30
I believe incall extra services are available from most massage places and then it would be a case of negotiation. I would not have massage done at massage parlor to expensive and usually not enough privacy for a worthwhile experience.

BFs are the best in AC, you can always get your Massage from them.

Essi
01-02-07, 20:38
Hi guys

I got the INFO form hong kong airlines

The flight depart from hong kong international airport( no need to go to macau).

N8 425 (every Tue, Thru, Sat, Sun) Hong Kong - Clark 1730/1910
N8 426 (every Tue, Thru, Sat, Sun) Clark -Hong Kong 1955/2135
For any reservation and ticket issue, Please contact our General sales agent

1) Central Sky Travel (852) 23931323
2) Hong Kong Four Seas Travel (852) 22007766
3) CAAC Holiday (852) 28708912
4) JBC Travel (852) 25252256
5) Prince Travel (852) 21113828



Thank you for you kind attention
HONG KONG AIRLINES LTD
Address: Suit 2705, 9 Queens'Road Central Hong Kong
Tel: (852)21551888 Fax:(852)21552223
Website:www.hkairlines.com

The fare is HKD1,753.00

I hope its help

ESSI

Towelboy2010
01-03-07, 02:11
I will be in Angeles on 2-7-07.

Any suggestions for a newbie?I was there for 1 day - December 4th. I drove into town at 3:30 pm and stayed at the Wild Orchid.

Met up with Mattrick and hit the streets at 7pm. I was like a deer caught in headlights. I gawked from 7pm until midnight. Went to Nero's; Blue Nile; Camelot and finally La Pasha.

At La Pasha I made my 1st choice and got rolling. I did manage 4 girls in all that night. Went to the Dollhouse at 5 am and took a waitress and a hostess until 7 am.

YOU WILL LOVE IT!!!

Beijing Lover
01-03-07, 04:07
You can also fly to and from Macau.
Tiger Airways flies daily

Macau to Clark daily at 13.25/15.15
Clark to Macau daily at 15.45/17.40

Prices start at 78hkd one way without taxes.

total cost (if you get the best fares) is under 600 HKD.
I've done it myself several times to get to Angeles and Manila.
For Manila had 2.500 pesos for the taxi.
You book direct at the airline website.

Beijinglover


Hi guys

I got the INFO form hong kong airlines

The flight depart from hong kong international airport( no need to go to macau).

N8 425 (every Tue, Thru, Sat, Sun) Hong Kong - Clark 1730/1910
N8 426 (every Tue, Thru, Sat, Sun) Clark -Hong Kong 1955/2135
For any reservation and ticket issue, Please contact our General sales agent

1) Central Sky Travel (852) 23931323
2) Hong Kong Four Seas Travel (852) 22007766
3) CAAC Holiday (852) 28708912
4) JBC Travel (852) 25252256
5) Prince Travel (852) 21113828



Thank you for you kind attention
HONG KONG AIRLINES LTD
Address: Suit 2705, 9 Queens'Road Central Hong Kong
Tel: (852)21551888 Fax:(852)21552223
Website:www.hkairlines.com

The fare is HKD1,753.00

I hope its help

ESSI

Hesekiels
01-03-07, 04:23
Again and over again, many people are not understanding that you should think of the local price rates and do not compare always with the prices in your expensive countries. But how much was this said, and always there is someone coming with the stupid sentence: dont tell me what i should do with my money. bullshit.

Think a little bit.


Germano123:

No need to teach others what to do and what not! Let the market do the needful in terms of "finding the right price"! Think a little bit, ok?! :)

If the price level for any service is too high for you, simply do not purchase the good (e.g. food, transportation, barfine etc). But if other mates are prepared to pay more, let them do so and feel free to go to a cheaper place of your choice instead. We are living in an open society and the economical interaction between supply and demand will do the rest for you/us!

However, brother, be assured that neither Ekspat nor 1,000 Koreans have the power to spoil the overall price level in AC - at least not as long as 20,000 mongers like you (I suppose?!) act more cost-conscious. All in all it's pure economics, isn't it?! IMHO, of course!

Cheers - Hesekiels

Web Connect
01-03-07, 13:05
If you where out bar hopping with a bar girl. Would you get mad if another guy asked her for her number or what bar she worked at?

Would you want the other guy to first ask you permission if it was ok?

What if it was a regular girl you seen every time you are in AC. Would it matter if she gave her number to another guy so she could meet with him after you are gone.

Streetlooker
01-03-07, 20:31
I would think it RUDE for a guy to ask the girl your with for her number or bar location while I was sitting there with her. I would Never do that to another guy in a Bar cause shes with him at that moment. ITS RUDE even if their only with you cause your paying them. If she gets up to go to the bathroom then Its fine to hit up on her then. This is a good test on what the girl really thinks of you anyways cause If she really likes you And you bought her a drink or 2 and even her EWR She will quickly render herself unavailable to this guy and blow him off. If shes gone a while and you see her flurting back with him she might just be a runner on you.

Phantomtiger2
01-04-07, 00:43
Yes, its a bit out of line to hit a gal directly as you sit with her. Makes you feel like you're not there.
I dont mind if the bloke ask me( not her) the simple questions out of curiosity ,like--where did I meet her, but not to ask her directly as I'm sitting there and he knows she is with me. Also, not right to ask too personal questions while I'm sitting there-like--her phone #, how much am I paying her for the nite etc.
No problem with me if some bloke ask me anything the next day but not while shes sitting there with me.

PT

BJ Blitz
01-04-07, 05:54
Where will be a good spot for one to take in the Superbowl. Since a friend and I will be out of the States for the game, we would like to try and be in a football friendly enviornment. Anyone have any plans/advice. Or would you recommend we stay in Thailand? Newbies to SE Asia. How about renting out one of the bars? And if this is being done by one of the brothers. How about an invite.

Thanks in advance

Blitz

Ekspat
01-04-07, 09:39
This phenomena of Big Rich Sugar Daddys has spoiled the market in lots of places elsewhere in Asia.
I'm sure, you can provide some examples of these "lots of places"?
Thanks in advance.
Cheers!

Ekspat
01-04-07, 10:00
This has not to be, if people would consider the local rates and dont overpay.
Germano, you simply do NOT get the local rates in a place like Fields Ave or whole Balibago area.
It doesn't matter whether you pay 280 or 240ps for a Chicken Cordon Bleu with mashed potatoes and veggies. It has nothing to do with local rates.
Also Philippino dishes like tapsilog or losilog (?) somewhat around 120-150ps, rice with corned beef and fried egg for 110ps. This is also far away from local rates.
Do you have any idea about the local rates?

Cheers!

Web Connect
01-04-07, 15:22
I would think it RUDE for a guy to ask the girl your with for her number or bar location while I was sitting there with her. I would Never do that to another guy in a Bar cause shes with him at that moment. ITS RUDE even if their only with you cause your paying them. If she gets up to go to the bathroom then Its fine to hit up on her then. This is a good test on what the girl really thinks of you anyways cause If she really likes you And you bought her a drink or 2 and even her EWR She will quickly render herself unavailable to this guy and blow him off. If shes gone a while and you see her flurting back with him she might just be a runner on you.What is you sent a girl over to ask her in Tagalog?

Would that be the same as if she got up to go to the bathroom?

Since it is business, do you care what she does the next day or after you are done with her on her own time? Her giving out a number can take less than a min.

Web Connect
01-04-07, 15:32
Yes, its a bit out of line to hit a gal directly as you sit with her. Makes you feel like you're not there.

I dont mind if the bloke ask me( not her) the simple questions out of curiosity ,like--where did I meet her, but not to ask her directly as I'm sitting there and he knows she is with me. Also, not right to ask too personal questions while I'm sitting there-like--her phone #, how much am I paying her for the nite etc.

No problem with me if some bloke ask me anything the next day but not while shes sitting there with me.

PTWhat about if a girl ( a guy sent ) came over to get her number?

Sometimes a girl knows another girl may chat for a while. And if she just happens to give that girl her number, which can take less than a min. Does that bother you?

I know it is business for the girl and if she can get another customer. Good for her!

Buko Max
01-04-07, 18:23
Where will be a good spot for one to take in the Superbowl.
Hello Blitz,

If you want a spacious place away from the action with a geriatric type crowd, check out the bar at Swagman Narra Hotel. For something on Fields, try Kokonutz Sports Bar part of the Kokomos complex. This is one sporting event you should have no trouble catching wherever you are, including Thailand. Many places use this game as an excuse to throw a party. To make things more interesting, I like to go to a party that has some betting action or at the very least some sqaures.

Fastpiston
01-05-07, 08:42
I'm sure, you can provide some examples of these "lots of places"?
Thanks in advance.
Cheers!
Thailand, Taiwan, Hong Kong, East Europe going that way from my own experience and recent posts. Good Luck.

Ekspat
01-05-07, 10:16
Good Luck.
Thanks. Same to you.
Seems we'll need it.
Cheers!

Web Connect
01-05-07, 13:45
Thailand, Taiwan, Hong Kong, East Europe going that way from my own experience and recent posts. Good Luck.Not in Asia, but you can add Montreal to the list. I have seen the prices double in a very short amount of time.

I am not sure if it was the Rich Sugar Daddy syndrome that caused the problem, but more that the girls got smarter.

I agree with Thailand. In recent years the girls can use cell phones and the internet to make more money. I have to say also with the new technology it made it easy for me to find what I am looking for.

I just try to continue to increase my income so I can continue to have money to spend on my hobby!

Phantomtiger2
01-05-07, 19:36
What about if a girl ( a guy sent ) came over to get her number?

Sometimes a girl knows another girl may chat for a while. And if she just happens to give that girl her number, which can take less than a min. Does that bother you?

I know it is business for the girl and if she can get another customer. Good for her!

This could happen but I probably wont mind as most of the times I'm never sure if the gals knows each other and could be friends etc., so may be talking about something personal among themselves. Yes, it would bother me if the guy came over and did it himself.

PT

Bill Buxton
01-07-07, 02:53
Who cares about getting numbers of anykind? These gals suck and fuck anyone and will never stop at what they do.If a guy takes a gal from you who cares she went so that should tell you she will also do it to the new guy.ALL THESE GALLS HAVE OTHER GUYS,GALS,FOREIGN AND FILIPINO.Please do not think that you are the only one in the life of a bar or nonbar gal here.

This is the ultimate in CRAZY! ANGELES CITY.There are no rules and just watch whats going on around you.In the street,the bar,the hotel,the store EVERYWHERE!I heard a foreigner trying to get a free room in a gals house because this guy has no money.The scamms are here from all over the globe so it's not just the gals thinking we are bad we also think they are.

Should a guy get a number from a gal when she is with another guy I say no but if he knows where she works or lives he can get a contact number.And if a gal wants a guys number she can also get it herself or from the bamboo pipeline.This is a dash for cash and NOBODY IS OFF LIMITS GUYS OR GIRLS.

Get who you want and be polite and if you see a new conquest just sit back and wait your turn,"I im sure as god made green apples" you will get your chance.

B.B...

Web Connect
01-07-07, 10:39
Who cares about getting numbers of anykind? These gals suck and fuck anyone and will never stop at what they do.If a guy takes a gal from you who cares she went so that should tell you she will also do it to the new guy.ALL THESE GALLS HAVE OTHER GUYS,GALS,FOREIGN AND FILIPINO.Please do not think that you are the only one in the life of a bar or nonbar gal here.

This is the ultimate in CRAZY! ANGELES CITY.There are no rules and just watch whats going on around you.In the street,the bar,the hotel,the store EVERYWHERE!I heard a foreigner trying to get a free room in a gals house because this guy has no money.The scamms are here from all over the globe so it's not just the gals thinking we are bad we also think they are.

Should a guy get a number from a gal when she is with another guy I say no but if he knows where she works or lives he can get a contact number.And if a gal wants a guys number she can also get it herself or from the bamboo pipeline.This is a dash for cash and NOBODY IS OFF LIMITS GUYS OR GIRLS.

Get who you want and be polite and if you see a new conquest just sit back and wait your turn,"I im sure as god made green apples" you will get your chance.

B.B...I have no problem with a guy getting the girls number or even taking her from me that minute. I NEVER go bar hopping with a girl until I am already done !

If I bar fine a girl the first thing I do is go right back to my room with her... I would never pay her to bar fine with me ! After I am done with the deed I am off to find a new one ! If she wants to come I don't mind, I will buy her a few drinks at another bar. Even better becuase I get her to get more numbers for me from girls I would like to meet up with !

I agree guys should'nt get mad if another guy wants to get her info. It is a dog eat dog world! You have to get what you can when you can!

HenryV
01-07-07, 16:57
"What about if a girl ( a guy sent ) came over to get her number?" - A sign of extremely bad manners.

I say this in a totally dispassionate manner, its like eating off another person's plate at dinner.





What about if a girl ( a guy sent ) came over to get her number?

Sometimes a girl knows another girl may chat for a while. And if she just happens to give that girl her number, which can take less than a min. Does that bother you?

I know it is business for the girl and if she can get another customer. Good for her!

Key Master
01-07-07, 19:54
I have no problem with a guy getting the girls number or even taking her from me that minute. I NEVER go bar hopping with a girl until I am already done !

If I bar fine a girl the first thing I do is go right back to my room with her... I would never pay her to bar fine with me ! After I am done with the deed I am off to find a new one ! If she wants to come I don't mind, I will buy her a few drinks at another bar. Even better becuase I get her to get more numbers for me from girls I would like to meet up with !

I agree guys should'nt get mad if another guy wants to get her info. It is a dog eat dog world! You have to get what you can when you can!

Good point WebConnexxion. I don't really understand the thinking of barhopping with the bar girls. I really don't think there is anything good coming out of it in the end. The woman might see friends or family of hers and get you to buy drinks for them, and they become instant spies for her as you prance around with her. Another woman you might have been with thinks negatively of you for coming to her bar with another woman. I know it really ain't crap but if you want to play the game it doesn't hurt to respect her in some ways. Of course, running into guys that do what this original issue of someone trying to get your barfine's number. Personally, I don't really care, as I know the game. Just because you barfined her, doesn't mean you own her for whenever. Get real. Sure it spoils it for you a little bit, but it also grounds you in reminding you where you are. Unless you think you are going to marry her and such, who cares. Even more reason to stop the barhopping and just pound away.

Hesekiels
01-07-07, 19:55
Hi folks:

I just returned home from my last trip to the Philippines and need now to recover a little bit! :) During my recent stay in AC I had the greatest pleasure to meet again with brother Ekspat, who made certain that not one single minute in the “promised city” was wasted. :)

Wow, guys, believe you me, this incredible chap - who is best known all over the place - did not fail to amaze me over and over again! Already while going out for having breakfast at let’s say 1 pm, dozens of girls on the streets greeted him with a lovely smile “hello Ekspat, my dear!” And when both of us hit the bars in Perimeter Road at 2 pm or so, virtually all dancers and waitresses knew Mr Ekspat - apparently for ages. It goes without saying that the very same story continued at nighttime in Fields!

So, I was wondering more than once if there is any cuty in AC who was not f***ed by Mr Ekspat, or, if there might be a place in town he does not know? Well, honestly spoken, I would rather doubt it! However, I look forward to seeing Mr Ekspat again in a couple of months!

Cheers - Hesekiels

Girlfinder
01-07-07, 20:57
I add a good map, covering bars and hotels along 300 meter of Fields Av. which is the most important areas I think. Hope someone find it useful. Perimeter road is at the left of Fields Av. Up to the left, outside the map, is Clark freezone where the airport is.

For hotel info, I found this to be a good link http://www.balibago.com/where_to_stay.html.
Maybe someone can say more about the new hotels, standards and room rates at near 100USD. Just rip-off or does this give any value for money?

I go to AC by end of Feb, but think a hotel at 35 USD should be max. These 1800 PHP is more than 10 days work for those people there!

Happ hunting, folks
GF

FireWalker
01-08-07, 00:08
If you where out bar hopping with a bar girl. Would you get mad if another guy asked her for her number or what bar she worked at?

Would you want the other guy to first ask you permission if it was ok?

What if it was a regular girl you seen every time you are in AC. Would it matter if she gave her number to another guy so she could meet with him after you are gone.

Actually, I think it just makes you look pathetic. From the girls' standpoint it is not really a compliment. And if you take it from the guys perspective, you don't know what could happen. Why would you risk him going off on you? There are 1000 girls in AC.

A guy did that once on Fields to my girl. Good thing I didn't catch him.

Bill Buxton
01-08-07, 03:23
I add a good map, covering bars and hotels along 300 meter of Fields Av. which is the most important areas I think. Hope someone find it useful. Perimeter road is at the left of Fields Av. Up to the left, outside the map, is Clark freezone where the airport is.

For hotel info, I found this to be a good link http://www.balibago.com/where_to_stay.html.
Maybe someone can say more about the new hotels, standards and room rates at near 100USD. Just rip-off or does this give any value for money?

I go to AC by end of Feb, but think a hotel at 35 USD should be max. These 1800 PHP is more than 10 days work for those people there!

Happ hunting, folks
GF

There are many hotels at 20-60 U.S. dollars per night here and you get all you need.You can stay at ck\larkton great pool quiet great staff and food.New large room for 60 per night.Oasis is great also and thats 70 per night.Premier hotel is 27 per night nice place good pool.Horizonhill hotel 23 per night good staff clean quiet travel agent inhouse all you need under 1 roof.

You get out of the shit on fields ave and get a good room at a good price.Tell the driver to go past the petron station and you are 1 km from all the shit.Also high season is na so you will pay all the jack now for a room on or close to fields.

B.B...

Web Connect
01-08-07, 12:54
"What about if a girl ( a guy sent ) came over to get her number?" - A sign of extremely bad manners.

I say this in a totally dispassionate manner, its like eating off another person's plate at dinner.I know what you mean, but in the Philippines it is VERY common for others to eat of each others plate. They also use their fingers and hands. If they do use utensils it is a fork and spoon rather than a knife.

Web Connect
01-08-07, 13:18
Good point WebConnexxion. I don't really understand the thinking of barhopping with the bar girls. I really don't think there is anything good coming out of it in the end. The woman might see friends or family of hers and get you to buy drinks for them, and they become instant spies for her as you prance around with her. Another woman you might have been with thinks negatively of you for coming to her bar with another woman. I know it really ain't crap but if you want to play the game it doesn't hurt to respect her in some ways. Of course, running into guys that do what this original issue of someone trying to get your barfine's number. Personally, I don't really care, as I know the game. Just because you barfined her, doesn't mean you own her for whenever. Get real. Sure it spoils it for you a little bit, but it also grounds you in reminding you where you are. Unless you think you are going to marry her and such, who cares. Even more reason to stop the barhopping and just pound away.Exactly. The whole point of going to a bar is to find one you may like. Bringing a girl with you automaticly tells the other girls at the bar that you are taken. They do not want to step on the toes of the other girls.

For the most part Filipina girls are not swingers. Most of them are really looking for a real husband, so they don't think you are cool seeing you go from bar to bar picking up different girls. But of course they know from them it is a job and most guys are out for a good time.

I think getting numbers and giving numbers is all part of the game these days, and if you are really up to date. Do it by Bluetooth!

Web Connect
01-08-07, 13:28
Actually, I think it just makes you look pathetic. From the girls' standpoint it is not really a compliment. And if you take it from the guys perspective, you don't know what could happen. Why would you risk him going off on you? There are 1000 girls in AC.

A guy did that once on Fields to my girl. Good thing I didn't catch him.I agree it may be a pathetic, but was'nt it Woody Allen that said.. " The heart wants what the heart wants "

Like you said, there are 1000 girls in AC, so why should the other guy get mad. It is only getting a number that can take less then a min to get.

Key Master
01-08-07, 19:14
Actually, I think it just makes you look pathetic. From the girls' standpoint it is not really a compliment. And if you take it from the guys perspective, you don't know what could happen. Why would you risk him going off on you? There are 1000 girls in AC.

A guy did that once on Fields to my girl. Good thing I didn't catch him.

It is rude for someone to do that, but you know what? We aren't dealing with angels. We ourselves could be nice people, but you are always going to have some rude people who don't give a lick about other people's feelings or whatever. Is it worth getting in a fight over? I highly doubt it unless someone is doing somebody bodily harm. What would be the point of getting into a fight? This is AC or wherever it may be in a P4P scenario. It to me would not be worth the energy or the possibility of bodily harm or worse. We have a potpourri of people here: women looking for money and/or love, drunks, good people looking for fun, jerks, whatever. No reason to trip. It's a losers game. I never understood this original concern of someone asking your barfine for her number. If it upsets the barfiner so much, he's got to get real. Look where it's happening. If it's your real girlfriend or wife, what the hell are you doing barhopping in AC? Anyway, all I'm saying is it's not worth getting all jacked up. Sure it's rude, but getting all emotional and potentially physical over it makes no sense. If you are bothered by it, I would consider bringing your barfine back to her bar and try and get your barfine back or loose her since she didn't live up to the true GFE you thought you paid for.

Hesekiels
01-08-07, 20:11
I think getting numbers and giving numbers is all part of the game these days ... !

Sure, it's part of the game! I also take frequently their numbers - just to call the girl in the afternoon ... for a great bbbj in my hotel room after having had lunch! :) Or, could there be another reason?

Cheers - Hesekiels

Fast Eddie 48
01-09-07, 08:05
I add a good map, covering bars and hotels along 300 meter of Fields Av. which is the most important areas I think. Hope someone find it useful. Perimeter road is at the left of Fields Av. Up to the left, outside the map, is Clark freezone where the airport is.

For hotel info, I found this to be a good link http://www.balibago.com/where_to_stay.html.
Maybe someone can say more about the new hotels, standards and room rates at near 100USD. Just rip-off or does this give any value for money?

I go to AC by end of Feb, but think a hotel at 35 USD should be max. These 1800 PHP is more than 10 days work for those people there!

Happ hunting, folks
GF




to all

Better AC map detail on the bar and field area, see all you guys next week I will staying at the new pacific breeze hotel hope the pool is bigger than the one at central hotel .

http://www.acmap.com/




fast eddie 48

FireWalker
01-09-07, 11:49
I agree it may be a pathetic, but was'nt it Woody Allen that said.. " The heart wants what the heart wants "

Like you said, there are 1000 girls in AC, so why should the other guy get mad. It is only getting a number that can take less then a min to get.

Yes, but it is not a winning percentage. Most won't give their number and why risk a problem?
If the guy is smart, why not ask "Hey don't you work at Nero's? No? Where did I see you?".

Coming up behind a girl and whispering "Hey can I get your number?" or "Give me your number" is pretty stupid. It just made my girl feel really uncomfortable, that is what would [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) me off.

The other guy can get mad because he has paid for her time and attention.

It is just poor form and the chance of a confrontation is higher than any benefit of the girls' phone number.

John Dust
01-09-07, 12:20
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You get out of the shit on fields ave and get a good room at a good price.Tell the driver to go past the petron station and you are 1 km from all the shit.Also high season is na so you will pay all the jack now for a room on or close to fields.

B.B...I usually try to avoid high season periods with the associated downside. The weather should be good now though. How busy is March through April? Is this a good time to visit. Never having been to PI, I'm looking to avoid the crowds in Cebu and Davao.

Girlfinder
01-09-07, 22:58
to all
Better AC map detail on the bar and field area, see all you guys next week I will staying at the new pacific breeze hotel hope the pool is bigger than the one at central hotel http://www.acmap.com/
fast eddie 48
Hi Eddie, I felt that map was a little outdated, thats why a newer (2006?) was attached. Anyway, main point is it should be easy to find the interesting areas.

About Pacific Breeze hotel, hope you can report back on that. Is that worth the value?

GF

Bill Buxton
01-10-07, 03:50
Another great story here in the city of angels.

I have a frend that steady bf a gal here and now after he has given away the cash the attatude of the girl is she cares less about what the guy thinks.Never never never pay a gal a steady BARFINE!

She will change once the cash is gone and go back to the bar looking for another VICTOM.Guys they will all go out with no money given to the bar just be firm in what you tell her.Remember they all lie and tell stories here so tell some shit of your own.Tell the pea brain you will buy her a house and lot and you must get the cash when you go home.And then wait and see how long it is before you find out about just how honest she is.I am sure you will find out about all the scamms she is running on you in a short time.At least you did not give the blood thirsty bar your hard earned cash...

B.B...

Web Connect
01-11-07, 10:30
EXTRA caution is being asked of the public after City Hall was alerted to the presence of a foreigner said to be positive of the Human Immuno-deficiency Syndrome (HIV), the virus responsible for AIDS, who is sexually active and refuses to use protection in his encounters with local women.

The City Hall received e-mail reports from police intelligence regarding this Caucasian man who is said to be a long-term resident of the Philippines with a tourist or balikbayan visa but who does not have a work permit or a marriage contract to support his balikbayan visa.

The report said the man has at some periods stayed in Davao, Surigao, Butuan, Gingoog, and Cagayan de Oro.

The foreigner is described to be around 5'3" in height, in his mid-fifties, has brown eyes and a heavy body build, with short hair, and clean shaven. He has lots of tattoos and drives a motorcycle with a Philippine license.

The man is also said to be intelligent and manipulative with a history of pay-offs to the police and other Philippine authorities. Also, that he has a criminal record in his country.

Sightings of the said foreigner should be reported to the police and other local authorities.I am sure if the guy is in the Philippines he was in or will be in Angeles City at some time.

You also may want to watch out for bar girls from Davao. They could be infected and dormant. When the girls go to the clinic for their health check. They don't check for HIV. It is pretty much a simple pap smear. A lot of other STD will not show up either than can be transmitted.

Be careful and always use a condom if you don't want the headaches.

Web Connect
01-12-07, 09:54
I just recieved a text message from a girl from A.C. stating the feds raided a "locked down bar" in Angeles City and took all the girls, including the mamasan to jail in Manila. Anyone who is in Angeles hear or see this take place?. Those who have traveled to A.C know what a locked down party is in a bar.
What is a "locked down bar"?

X Man
01-12-07, 10:44
One of my NY resolutions was to be less antagonistic, but the only "peabrain" I see in this story is BB's friend. Why on earth would anyone pay a "permanent" or "steady" bar fine? (that is BB's message, so I guess I still haven't broken my NY res.) Hey, if you love her, and she loves you, tell her to quit her job. Why on earth should a guy pay the bar for the privilige of a girlfriend?

Two years ago, I had an EDSA SPACE girl who was for some reason smitten with me. She didn't go to work the next day, nor the next....and she incurred the 1000 penalty.

She's now married and in a developed country. Good for her...but damn do I miss that hot ass. She still owes the bar money.

My biggest disagreement with BB is that you need to lie. White lies I can deal with, especially since the Filipino definition of "white lie" is much broader than those of Westerners. If you need to lie, you are one really lame piece of shait.

Dang, less antagonism, less beer....doesn't take long for those resolutions to fall by the wayside.

X


Another great story here in the city of angels.

I have a frend that steady bf a gal here and now after he has given away the cash the attatude of the girl is she cares less about what the guy thinks.Never never never pay a gal a steady BARFINE!

She will change once the cash is gone and go back to the bar looking for another VICTOM.Guys they will all go out with no money given to the bar just be firm in what you tell her.Remember they all lie and tell stories here so tell some shit of your own.Tell the pea brain you will buy her a house and lot and you must get the cash when you go home.And then wait and see how long it is before you find out about just how honest she is.I am sure you will find out about all the scamms she is running on you in a short time.At least you did not give the blood thirsty bar your hard earned cash...

B.B...

FireWalker
01-12-07, 12:16
i just recieved a text message from a girl from a.c. stating the feds raided a "locked down bar" in angeles city and took all the girls, including the mamasan to jail in manila. anyone who is in angeles hear or see this take place?. those who have traveled to a.c know what a locked down party is in a bar.

yea that was the sob party. funny, i was at the perimeter party in may that got busted. the person that is going to be in the worst situation is the mamasan, if she has anyone **** in her stable.

basically, it moves in a rotation of different bars. the host bar will have food brought in and serve free drinks for about 2 hours during the party. you pay about 550 pesos. at sob they have front row seats for another 500. these are the best seats, because when the girls do their show well...some guys just gotta eat.
they usually have a contest where girls representing the rotating bars each do a show and the winning team gets some pesos. they get paid to be on the team too.

Bill Buxton
01-12-07, 14:57
One of my NY resolutions was to be less antagonistic, but the only "peabrain" I see in this story is BB's friend. Why on earth would anyone pay a "permanent" or "steady" bar fine? (that is BB's message, so I guess I still haven't broken my NY res.) Hey, if you love her, and she loves you, tell her to quit her job. Why on earth should a guy pay the bar for the privilige of a girlfriend?

Two years ago, I had an EDSA SPACE girl who was for some reason smitten with me. She didn't go to work the next day, nor the next....and she incurred the 1000 penalty.

She's now married and in a developed country. Good for her...but damn do I miss that hot ass. She still owes the bar money.

My biggest disagreement with BB is that you need to lie. White lies I can deal with, especially since the Filipino definition of "white lie" is much broader than those of Westerners. If you need to lie, you are one really lame piece of shait.

Dang, less antagonism, less beer....doesn't take long for those resolutions to fall by the wayside.

X

LIES,

THIS IS A COUNTRY BUILT ON LIES IN EVERY CORNER AND EVERY CRACK.Please do not try and tell me about America now I know what the answer is there also. Everyone here tells stories and everyone here needs cash thats the facts.The only real story I beleave here is from a guy that lived 20 miles from me at home.He tells me things that are true and fact as he has seen and found to be true to him.He has lived here over 6 years now and has a good handle on the culture and ways of the country.And also his ways never and still do not work for me.Style is indavidual here as at home so make your way using what you have to work with.You sit and listen to the 5 cent stories the guys tell here and then listen after a case of beer.The story is not the same one as before.How hard is it to be rich here?anything over 300-p per day is rich and most working people here are not getting that much.

I would dare say 90% of all the gals here have a bf or a guy sending cash.THATS NOT A HIGH FIGURE.These gals will tell you they love you and will be back in an hour and be sucking the dick of your best frend for pera(MONEY).I gave up telling everything via the truth because they will not return the same respect.If a gal is honest after a fue days or weeks or so then the respect comes out.GENTLEMEN,please you do not have to say only the words "would you like a barfine"Thats all no lies no talking just that.Any guy any size shape color can get a hot 18 year old from the bar thats a fact!When I here the shit like i love you,you are my first bf,i really like you just wait.In the morning the question out of there fucking suck's is I NEED MONEY!!Or my mpm is in the hospital or someone fell out of the tree or some unreal bullshit!

I know another guy staying here at my hotel, that think's when he buys a gal a drink this gives him an open line to feel and grope the girl.I blasted him face to face on that also.What do you think the girls here are not people??? They are!they work to support there life and manytimes that of a child and family.They are not trained fuck robots or machines there are PEOPLE.I will say this,what we do here we can and will never be able to do at home,so why act the fool here.MONEY TALKS AND NOBODY WALKS.

B.B...

Ender
01-12-07, 20:05
WTF.? Blood pressure medication, I mean I'm a pretty stressed guy with a shor temper but Bill chill out man, take a break. Who the hell cares what anyone's opinion is. Sure everyone lies, sure most of these over the hill bastards are being taken for a ride but then again, who cares. Sad to say that the one thing that the Internet has done is to bring all of the (to use a British term) punters out of the woodwork. I liked SE Asia back in the 80's and 90's, now because of the Internet I think that every A hole who can still get it up has come to town. Times change and the last thing anyone wants is someone flying off the handle on this board. Hey it's a great resource, don't abuse it. I simply state my opinions, I don't yell and I don't get upset if someone has a different opinion than me. If people want to believe that these girls are all angels who never lie, go ahead and let them I will not harm your life at all.

Just my thoughts,
ENDER

Bill Buxton
01-13-07, 01:38
WTF.? Blood pressure medication, I mean I'm a pretty stressed guy with a shor temper but Bill chill out man, take a break. Who the hell cares what anyone's opinion is. Sure everyone lies, sure most of these over the hill bastards are being taken for a ride but then again, who cares. Sad to say that the one thing that the Internet has done is to bring all of the (to use a British term) punters out of the woodwork. I liked SE Asia back in the 80's and 90's, now because of the Internet I think that every A hole who can still get it up has come to town. Times change and the last thing anyone wants is someone flying off the handle on this board. Hey it's a great resource, don't abuse it. I simply state my opinions, I don't yell and I don't get upset if someone has a different opinion than me. If people want to believe that these girls are all angels who never lie, go ahead and let them I will not harm your life at all.

Just my thoughts,
ENDER

ENDER,

Thanks you are right thats true,why stoop so low as to get that started.

My mistake high blood.

B.B...

Krum Lov
01-13-07, 15:08
hi guys, thought i'd post after reading something on cambodia site. has anyone ever heard of a guy getting HIV from RECEIVING a blow job? i have done a lot of research on this. from my studies, i've yet to find a confirmed statistic of this ever happening. you do get a lot of "statistically, it is possible possible" reports, but not one incident that has been 100% confirmed. at least not that i can find. gay guys and women can get HIV from sucking. make no mistake, there are numerous confirmed medical reports of this. and of course you can get some STDs from getting a BJ. but again, i've not come across one report since 1979 (since AIDs was first publicly discussed) of a guy getting HIV from getting sucked. would be interested in people's opinons, cheers.

FireWalker
01-13-07, 23:18
hi guys, thought i'd post after reading something on cambodia site. has anyone ever heard of a guy getting HIV from RECEIVING a blow job? i have done a lot of research on this. from my studies, i've yet to find a confirmed statistic of this ever happening. you do get a lot of "statistically, it is possible possible" reports, but not one incident that has been 100% confirmed. at least not that i can find. gay guys and women can get HIV from sucking. make no mistake, there are numerous confirmed medical reports of this. and of course you can get some STDs from getting a BJ. but again, i've not come across one report since 1979 (since AIDs was first publicly discussed) of a guy getting HIV from getting sucked. would be interested in people's opinons, cheers.

It's pretty hard to get a 100% confirmation on anything. I've read reports of this possibility and these reports were like 10 years ago and in US. I would assume it is possible.

Raverboy
01-14-07, 10:22
So I've read the Manila, Makati and AC threads back to back and was wondering if any of you seniors care to comment (will post in all 3 threads):

OK, I'm game! Am planning my first trip to the PI over an extended weekend, just to party and for general R&R. I don't live very far away :)

Here's my plan: 4D3N arriving in AC as the travel plan allows arriving at Clark only. Head straight to greater Manila, spending the first night in Makati - check out the malls during the day, check out P. Burgos in the evening. 2nd day: head to Malate and spend 2nd night there - check out LA Cafe in the evening. On the 3rd day head to AC and spend the night there - check out Fields Ave. Depart from Clark the following day.

Can anyone update me on the following fair 'market' rates as I understand them:

P. Burgos = BF PHP 2000-3000 (may be offset by LDs), add 2000-3000 to the girl for LT
LA Cafe = No BF, PHP 500 - 1000 for LT
AC Fields Ave. = BF PHP 1000, 0 - 500 'performance based' tip for LT

I'm less inclined towards KTVs and Saunas, usually preferring the bar/disco scene for semi-pros or FLs. Ideally I'd like to score an 8-or-9-who-occasionally-works, just based on good past experiences elsewhere but this of course is not set in stone. That being said, I wouldnt mind checking out 'regular' clubs like V or Embassy in Makati - whats the scene like there these days? FYI: I'm in my early 30s and believe I would best identify with LoveAsian*****s (think we party the same way), a regular contributor to this thread.

Your comments are welcome!

Hesekiels
01-14-07, 22:54
Can anyone update me on the following fair 'market' rates as I understand them:

P. Burgos = BF PHP 2000-3000 (may be offset by LDs), add 2000-3000 to the girl for LT
LA Cafe = No BF, PHP 500 - 1000 for LT
AC Fields Ave. = BF PHP 1000, 0 - 500 'performance based' tip for LT


Hi Raverboy:

P. Burgos:
According to my experience that's indeed the price level to calculate with. Compared to AC damn expensive, isn't it!? However, keep in mind that some mates are of the opinion that the Burgos girls are more attractive than their sisters in AC (but that's just in the eye of the beholder, I suppose!)!

AC:
Also quite correct, although many bars in Fields carge 1.200 pesos nowadays.

LA Cafe:
I would rather doubt that somebody from LA Cafe accepts 500 to 1.000 pesos for LT! I believe that you could get ST for 1.000, but most likely not for 500 pesos!

Have a great time!


Hesekiels

FireWalker
01-14-07, 23:40
Hi Raverboy:

P. Burgos:
According to my experience that's indeed the price level to calculate with. Compared to AC damn expensive, isn't it!? However, keep in mind that some mates are of the opinion that the Burgos girls are more attractive than their sisters in AC (but that's just in the eye of the beholder, I suppose!)!

AC:
Also quite correct, although many bars in Fields carge 1.200 pesos nowadays.

LA Cafe:
I would rather doubt that somebody from LA Cafe accepts 500 to 1.000 pesos for LT! I believe that you could get ST for 1.000, but most likely not for 500 pesos!

Have a great time!


Hesekiels


Angeles City

1000 pesos for Perimeter Bars and above Kokomos.

A few bars on Field are at 1250 pesos ie. Executive Club.

Key Master
01-15-07, 01:03
Raverboy,

If you have the energy and money, I guess what you are planning is doable. Personally, I think you are probably just better off staying in Angeles for that short amount of time. That's a lot of traveling back and forth to Manila in that short span. Plus you have to get your transportation both ways. If costs are no issue, then go for it.

Steve74
01-15-07, 01:53
Raverboy,

If you have the energy and money, I guess what you are planning is doable. Personally, I think you are probably just better off staying in Angeles for that short amount of time. That's a lot of traveling back and forth to Manila in that short span. Plus you have to get your transportation both ways. If costs are no issue, then go for it.I agree with Keymaster that your schedule might be a bit much to try. For 4 days, sticking just to angeles might be the best bet if you're only interested in mongering. While I think there are more 8-10 range girls in the Burgos bars, there are certainly some in angeles also - you just have to look a bit more. The only real disadvantage to angeles is that there isn't much else to do there, but for a relatively short trip, that probably doesn't matter.

Towelboy2010
01-15-07, 01:55
I've only been to the Phils twice so i am pretty much a rookie. I spent Dec 4th in Angeles and had Filipina Heart dates the rest of my stay.

I agree that you might best be served by just staying in Angeles for the duration. When I was there in December the ratio of guys to girls in any given bar is 30:1. So many to chose from. if you can't find a few goodlooking ones in the crowd you have extremely high standards.

I had a total of 5 girls in the one evening I was there. It was a blast. I am looking forward to a return visit and this time I am staying put in Angeles.

A word of caution on Angeles. There is nothing to do but drinking and fucking. For me though that is quite enough.

Good luck. Bob


So I've read the Manila, Makati and AC threads back to back and was wondering if any of you seniors care to comment (will post in all 3 threads):

OK, I'm game! Am planning my first trip to the PI over an extended weekend, just to party and for general R&R. I don't live very far away :)

Here's my plan: 4D3N arriving in AC as the travel plan allows arriving at Clark only. Head straight to greater Manila, spending the first night in Makati - check out the malls during the day, check out P. Burgos in the evening. 2nd day: head to Malate and spend 2nd night there - check out LA Cafe in the evening. On the 3rd day head to AC and spend the night there - check out Fields Ave. Depart from Clark the following day.

Can anyone update me on the following fair 'market' rates as I understand them:

P. Burgos = BF PHP 2000-3000 (may be offset by LDs), add 2000-3000 to the girl for LT
LA Cafe = No BF, PHP 500 - 1000 for LT
AC Fields Ave. = BF PHP 1000, 0 - 500 'performance based' tip for LT

I'm less inclined towards KTVs and Saunas, usually preferring the bar/disco scene for semi-pros or FLs. Ideally I'd like to score an 8-or-9-who-occasionally-works, just based on good past experiences elsewhere but this of course is not set in stone. That being said, I wouldnt mind checking out 'regular' clubs like V or Embassy in Makati - whats the scene like there these days? FYI: I'm in my early 30s and believe I would best identify with LoveAsian*****s (think we party the same way), a regular contributor to this thread.

Your comments are welcome!

Raverboy
01-15-07, 15:07
Thanks for the comments, will take them into consideration. I'll post a report accordingly. In the meantime keep the comments coming!

Hesekiels
01-15-07, 19:36
... There is nothing to do but drinking and fucking. For me though that is quite enough ...



Towelboy2010:

I second every single word you wrote - and that's exactly the reason why I like AC so very much! Simply have some fun there! Life can be so easy! :)

Cheers - Hesekiels

Ekspat
01-16-07, 01:39
in December the ratio of guys to girls in any given bar is 30:1. So many to chose from.
So many guys? :(
Isn't it 1:30 what you mean?
Cheers! :D

Fast Eddie 48
01-16-07, 11:05
Just back in manila after 2 night at angeles city stay at the new pacific breeze hotel just open 2400 peso a night very nice room and a nice deep pool nice design own by same owner of central park and is just around the corner ,most bar barfine is 1200 peso blue niles still have the most girl the one taht I pick up have a little attiude stay all night only allow cbj 3 shots .

The new clark sm is nice also when to the new mall of asia in manila I will heading to china tomorrow I still like mongering much better there , this is my
4 trip to pi in 3 yr not sure I will be back for a long time , I think service and girl quality is much better in other country in asia .

fast eddie 48

Essi
01-16-07, 13:16
Hi

As I been many times in angeles during the last 5-7 years I want to change too.
Can you advice me where I can find a nice holiday with nice hotel in china?

We normaly stay in angeles in oasis take a suite for 2500 pesos I like there the service and the rest. But I realy fed up with the filipino girls and their lie always like manstration and "my father ill" "my mother come to manila from the probince" and they have to go after you BF her at 12 midnight.

Me and my freinds comming for 10-15 for holiday and to have fan for a reasonbale price. where else can we go in china?

Must be pool or beach.

We dont like pattaya!!!!

ESSI

Quasarus
01-16-07, 13:23
Any info about the new Tiger Hotel opened on a side street from Marcherita Station? Hey, you AC expats. Tell me. I have seen the hotel before its opening. Please give me their e-mail to make an inquiry/reservation. I think it must be around 950/room and is a new hotel.

Quasarus
01-16-07, 13:27
Hi

As I been many times in Angeles during the last 5-7 years I want to change too.
Can you advice me where I can find a nice holiday with nice hotel in china?

We normaly stay in Angeles in oasis take a suite for 2500 pesos I like there the service and the rest. But I realy fed up with the filipino girls and their lie always like manstration and "my father ill" "my mother come to manila from the probince" and they have to go after you BF her at 12 midnight.

Me and my freinds comming for 10-15 for holiday and to have fan for a reasonbale price. where else can we go in china?

Must be pool or beach.

We dont like Pattaya!

ESSISo you prefer China? OK, go there be be ready for 4 times AC prices, a lot more attitude, including business attitude and yes, related dangers. The Chinese police will not give a shit on the color of your passport and your embassy is pretty powerless in Red China. That`s why I like Red China, they don`d give a shit of your Western Assess.

If you want a more relaxed Chinese atmosphere, yeah, go to Hong Kong but be ready to pay 10 times AC prices for less service.

Happy hunting in China

Frank4220
01-16-07, 18:57
In case anyones is interested. CBC (Canadian Broadcast Corp) is showing
a story tonight 10 eastern on "The Lens" regarding prostitution, sex tours etc.
Filmed by two university girls and a prof. Wondered how long it was before there was some publicity on main stream tv!

Cheers

Essi
01-16-07, 20:09
Hi

It not important if china or not we just look for a nice pussy paradise with same AC prices.....

Any idea?

ESSI

X Man
01-17-07, 01:26
Now that doesn't sound very friendly. Where might you be from Quasarus?

BTW, I don't know anything about "... Tiger Hotel opened on a side street from Marcherita Station?" Marcherita Station? That's probably in Tijuana -- you're in the wrong section.

X


That`s why I like Red China, they don`d give a shit of your Western Assess.

Dafacer
01-17-07, 01:59
So you prefer China? OK, go there be be ready for 4 times AC prices, a lot more attitude, including business attitude and yes, related dangers. The Chinese police will not give a shit on the color of your passport and your embassy is pretty powerless in Red China. That`s why I like Red China, they don`d give a shit of your Western Assess.

If you want a more relaxed Chinese atmosphere, yeah, go to Hong Kong but be ready to pay 10 times AC prices for less service.

Happy hunting in China

It sounds like he's been there Q and dont mind the bigger $$.

Eddie...aren't there huge language problems?

Fast Eddie 48
01-18-07, 10:16
It sounds like he's been there Q and dont mind the bigger $$.

Eddie...aren't there huge language problems?


to dafacer

Well I am an chinese american born in hong kong grew up in the US and I go
to China 4 times a yr for business so I have an avantage over you yes I agree
manila and bangkok is much easier for you guys ,if you been to both pi and china I am sure you will agree with me serivce is much better in China , the 4
p4p in PI and no bbbj only cbj but in China is standard.


fast eddie 48

Ekspat
01-18-07, 10:41
Where might you be from Quasarus?
Who cares?

Tiger Hotel opened on a side street from Marcherita Station?" Marcherita Station? That's probably in Tijuana -- you're in the wrong section.
He might be in the right section. Most likely he means Margherita Station, The Ville, and it's true, somewhere nearby openend a hotel called Tiger. Turn left from The Ville and then 1st or 2nd street to the left. 100-200m off the main road.
Cheers!

Ekspat
01-18-07, 10:52
The Chinese police will not give a shit on the color of your passport and your embassy is pretty powerless in Red China. That`s why I like Red China, they don`d give a shit of your Western Assess.
Seems you have a minor problem with the western asses?
But you're asking the the AC expats to get a hotel email-address for you?
Somewhat funny.
Good luck!

Quasarus
01-18-07, 10:53
Seems you have a minor problem with the western asses?
But you're asking the the AC expats to get a hotel email-address for you?
Somewhat funny.

Good luck!Man, give me the e-mail of that hotel to make a booking. Also some info on the exact price and coditions would be useful for the community. Of course I mean Margherita Station.

Quasarus
01-18-07, 10:55
Seems you have a minor problem with the western asses?
But you're asking the the AC expats to get a hotel email-address for you?
Somewhat funny.

Good luck!That was for the sake of warning and protection. Some Westerners think that all the world is the same, no, its not. Better get offended now than spending some time in a Red Cage.

Aeilla
01-19-07, 20:54
Going on my first P4P trip in my life. Has anyone stayed there? How much of a problem back and forth from the bars? The price there is great..looks like a nice pool. I have budgeted myself a $100 a day, with a room for $20. EWR of $24 to $28,food, and maybe a ST here and there should be fine. Thanks,

Bill Buxton
01-20-07, 01:40
There are better options available in the same area.Try premier,and horizonhill same street lower price good service.Also secure and girlfriendly.Yes only a trike ride away from the action.

B.B...

Quasarus
01-20-07, 03:06
Going on my first P4P trip in my life. Has anyone stayed there? How much of a problem back and forth from the bars? The price there is great..looks like a nice pool. I have budgeted myself a $100 a day, with a room for $20. EWR of $24 to $28,food, and maybe a ST here and there should be fine. Thanks,I stayed there twice. Good hotel if you know what to expect. Japanese management=clean and correct.

-Big rooms, big beds, good watter preassure ( important)
-Excellent service, in room service ( breackfast, lunch)
-Great pool and pool area-gives you a bit of a tropical relaxed hiliday atmosphere
-you can pay by credit card
-daily cleaning
-no inroom safe box but at the reception

Bad points:

-The corridors are rooms are neon lighted, very basic= look like a sanatorium, nothing glizzy but much better than other cheap hotels.

Bottom line: good value especially if you stay for 7-12 days.

If you stay shorter better spoil yourself with something closer to the action and more luxurious.

-distance from the action, 10-15 min, trike at the door , or jeepeney around the corner

-Very close to the Perimeter bars-some people prefer perimeter area only.

-I might stay there again but lately I was targeting modells and stunners and they sometimes turn their noses when they hear about Hana although it can be only my impression

X Man
01-20-07, 12:40
Ya think?
[QUOTE=Ekspat]He might be in the right section. Most likely he means Margherita Station, The Ville, UOTE]

Ghost 13
01-20-07, 14:48
I'm planning on taking my second trip to AC around the middle of February, does anybody know what the female/male ratio is around that time? I would appreciate any info.

Aussiec
01-20-07, 22:14
Good question Ghost. I would like to know what the ratio is too. Also is that a tourist busy time, are we going at a good time for mongering?

Essi
01-20-07, 23:15
Hi

I think its going to be busy as the chinees new year falling on this days.

ESSI

HenryV
01-21-07, 00:51
If any of you guys can find this in the PI let me know.

http://www.thechronicleherald.ca/Front/553869.html

Tungsten Chef
01-21-07, 06:16
Watched the program "the lens", here in Canada. a special called, "selling sex in heaven". about all the girls who come from the provinces to work in the bars in Angeles. man thoses casas are terrible places. fuk them bastards who keep the girls there. the maintainers/proprieters should be shot on site if they're caught. the girls are locked up all day and night in a small room. disgusting. and to all you pricks who treat the working girls like shit, you can shove your head up your ass and disappear. they do this to help their families, it's unfortunate, but thats the only way, I guess. peace out.

Quasarus
01-21-07, 07:58
If any of you guys can find this in the PI let me know.

http://www.thechronicleherald.ca/Front/553869.htmlHard to find. The report obviously is distorting the reality in a number of ways: the prices, the fact that the girls are forced to do what they do

The report is accurante when it comes to the girls weekly check ups.

Ghost 13
01-21-07, 11:36
Hi,

Thanks for the info, I'm planning to be there for about 3 weeks so hopefully it wont stay busy the whole time.

Ghost

Key Master
01-21-07, 23:39
The males are always outnumbered by the females in Angeles. No worries there. Just go and enjoy yourself. Know the situation there and how everything works. Everything else will fall into place.

Spam Hog
01-26-07, 07:26
If any of you guys can find this in the PI let me know.

http://www.thechronicleherald.ca/Front/553869.html


Thats my opinion on it, this report is inaccurate and lays the blame, largely, on "The Catholic Church". I dont know what education level these people have but the producer could have done better if he saved the money and spent some time reading this board. Idealistic save the world types NEVER get it right.

This is ASIA people, you dont change it, it changes YOU.

Regards

Spamhog

Ekspat
01-26-07, 07:37
It might be that some feminist groups or NGO's are running out of tax payers money. So they have to get such nonsense in the paper to proof how much to do is left.
Same happened in Phnom Penh, sometimes they had reports in the newspaper about K11, which were 2-3 years old. Just to keep the money flowing, so that NGO's can continue enjoying life and buy new 4WD's.

Cheers!

Azn Playa
01-26-07, 15:53
Good question Ghost. I would like to know what the ratio is too. Also is that a tourist busy time, are we going at a good time for mongering?

Thankfully - the busiest period of the year (xmas, nye) has already passed.
Even when its really busy, there will always be far too many girls on your 'to-do' list after scouting the bars for a day or two that you will never come close to having everyone you want.

If you're worried that another guy will get the girl that you like, just dress a little better than a drunken bum and avoid being arrogant or semi-abusive towards the girls and you are already a few steps above many of the guys who will be in AC at the same time as you.

You also need to consider that even though the popular hotels will be booked solid, many of the tourists already have girls waiting for them, so they won't even be competing with you for barfines. They will be tucked away in their rooms, playing by the pool or wining and dining the love of their life to bother thinking about who else they could be fucking.

If you want to be there during a 'ghost town' quiet period, then June-July is your best bet. Problem is, you may never see the sun, it could rain everyday and the atmosphere in some of your favourite bars will lack energy as they are too empty to give many of the girls hope that they will barfine that night. Sure you can get all the attention, but too much can be a bad thing. Its good to have some other punters in a bar to balance things out a bit.

HenryV
01-26-07, 16:30
It never ceases to amaze me how the harm done in the world by people looking to "do good."


Thats my opinion on it, this report is inaccurate and lays the blame, largely, on "The Catholic Church". I dont know what education level these people have but the producer could have done better if he saved the money and spent some time reading this board. Idealistic save the world types NEVER get it right.

This is ASIA people, you dont change it, it changes YOU.

Regards

Spamhog

Bill Buxton
01-27-07, 00:37
Thankfully - the busiest period of the year (xmas, nye) has already passed.
Even when its really busy, there will always be far too many girls on your 'to-do' list after scouting the bars for a day or two that you will never come close to having everyone you want.

If you're worried that another guy will get the girl that you like, just dress a little better than a drunken bum and avoid being arrogant or semi-abusive towards the girls and you are already a few steps above many of the guys who will be in AC at the same time as you.

You also need to consider that even though the popular hotels will be booked solid, many of the tourists already have girls waiting for them, so they won't even be competing with you for barfines. They will be tucked away in their rooms, playing by the pool or wining and dining the love of their life to bother thinking about who else they could be fucking.

If you want to be there during a 'ghost town' quiet period, then June-July is your best bet. Problem is, you may never see the sun, it could rain everyday and the atmosphere in some of your favourite bars will lack energy as they are too empty to give many of the girls hope that they will barfine that night. Sure you can get all the attention, but too much can be a bad thing. Its good to have some other punters in a bar to balance things out a bit.

GOOD INFO YOU ARE RIGHT IT'S JUST THIS EASY.

B.B...

Bill Buxton
01-27-07, 08:51
Any guy staying long time at a hotel here will fall in the friendship trap.The hotel staff and others will befriend the person and extort whatever they can due to friendship.

This was the case of a long time friend and guest at my hotel.The cook was hanging around after work talking to us many nights.He first wanted a free drink or two and then more.He would bring his wife and kids and relathieves in and wanted us to foot the bill.WOW WHAT A DEAL HA.tHE BEST PART IS WHEN MY FRIEND WAS ON HIS LAST NIGHT HERE THE COOK WAS GOING TO BRING IN SOME FOOD AND THROUGH A PARTY.Please let me say that we did have a party but the cook was nowhere to be found.He knew that he would have to reach in his pocket for once and that shit will never happen here!!HE never showed and we had a good time after all.

Never get to close because kindness is viewed as weekness here.They take and take and take until the flys have nothing to eat.

IF NOT FOR PUSSY WE WOULD NEVER COME HERE.

STAYING ON TOP,

B.B...

One Wing Low
01-27-07, 10:45
As if there are no cheap *****s all over Canada...


Hard to find. The report obviously is distorting the reality in a number of ways: the prices, the fact that the girls are forced to do what they do

The report is accurante when it comes to the girls weekly check ups.

Blink157
01-27-07, 13:43
Hello,
Im back home since a week from my stay in PI and just give my 2 cents to AC and scenery there.

I visited some expat friends and we talked bout AC scene today, means those guys who actually live the dream to be constant in AC or elsewhere in PI.

AC has a very limited freelance scene, so for those guys who like to barfine a gurl and invite her to go to Boracay or just let her her stay with you for a while and give her 500 p a day its quite difficult to do so. All the gurls or lets say allmost all the gurls are obliged t folow the rules of the bar scene.

In other words, if you barfine a gurl and u like her, u have to be barfine her the nxt day also, otherwise she will go with another guy the next day.

I only speak about the experience from those guys who actually LIVE in AC.

Ac is ok for guys who just want a quick f..k , you just go to a bar, have a drinkwith the mama san and point to the gurl that you like to get barfine.

Conversation is limited, cause gurls arent that smart. My expatfriend told me he can do that also when he is 70, just point with his stick to one of the gurls dancing on the stage, buy her a drink and off we go...So, he will just live in AC but maybe only 4 month a year , in the other time he will go to Mindoro, Thailand and Manila, cause of the freelance scene, In AC its all dictated by the bars, tht was different some years ago...I rember 1996 the gurl f..k ur brains out all nyt, stay with you as long as you want and no problem with bars etc.....

During my stay in AC I went to Agassya, this place has changed and is now more western friendly. All you have to do is to chat with the mama san , buy her a drink and she will recomand gurls who wana go with you.

I will allways go back to AC when Im in PI, but the place has changed and this is my impression from my recent trip.

Blue Nile group will soon open a casino next to their club. They also installed one armed bandits las vegas style in Blue nile and Neros, I heard they invest 1 million dollar for this. I hope they have some extra savings to give some extra cash to the police for back up, cause Im pretty sure if they get customers from Casino Filipino those mafia mobs want to get a piece of the cake. Always remember that filipinos dont like competition, so lets see how they do in the future....gud luck...

If you know excactly with what you dealing when goin to AC and stay with ur feet on the ground in this fantasy world you will do good over there and you will have fun, but for the guys who actually live there, they kno what Im talkin about....

Happy hunting!!

Blink157

Hesekiels
01-27-07, 22:27
Any guy staying long time at a hotel here will fall in the friendship trap. The hotel staff and others will befriend the person and extort whatever they can due to friendship ... He first wanted a free drink or two and then more... He would bring his wife and kids and relatives in ...

BB:

Very much true! Everyone who did not know that should read BB's lines twice, or, even better, three times! By the way, you need not stay all too long! Sometimes you have such "new friends" already after four, five days!

Cheers - Hesekiels

Bill Buxton
01-28-07, 11:05
O k lets just say that I have gone through another long time stay here and it was not a good time.The reason is because of the staff and there games.They never stole (outright) anything like at the marquis but the money and games are going on here every minute.

Again where are we the bigest monkey business place in the PI and yes we should expect it right?The answer is wrong frome where I sit.They are all sisters and brothers under the sun and lie and cheet and steal whatever they can.They know most do not tell the management about whats going on for whatever reason.Could be there only here a short time,or could be they feel stupid over 10-20 dollars take your pick.And the managers know whats going on and do NOTHING to fix the problems,

The only way to get back at the places is HIT THEM IN THE WALLET! MOOVE OUT AND NEVER SPEND ANY CASH THERE AGAIN.How many hundreds of thousands of peso's do they have to loose before they know they have trouble?I know eating and paying for my room adds up to 70-80 thousand per month, so if you want your 150-p a day waitress or cook or bellboy to cost you that kind of cash over monkey business GO FOR IT? If the answer is yes it's ok for me My cash is green and the next place will honor it I am sure.The people know nothing about business and run things from the seat of there pants.Proven twice in six months so fuck them who cares.

And trying to tell them what they should do is not a help at all.They are so proud and will never say I am sorry ever so wollow in the shit you create is what I say.REMEMBER IF YOU GET ONE OF THESE BROWN PIECES OF SHIT TO SAY "SORRY" YOU HAVE HANDS DOWN HAD A GOOD DAY!They are so fucking stupid even when they are wrong they will never say those words.

Nice to see I kiss ass at home thats why I have the ability to stay here so long.Customer service here is zero and thats why they will always be below board here never on top.

WORLD FAMOUS;

B.B...

Azn Playa
01-28-07, 12:33
IF NOT FOR PUSSY WE WOULD NEVER COME HERE.



For me, this is true for all the mongering hotspots I regularly return to in Asia.

Scotian
01-28-07, 20:58
Hi,

Has anyone stayed at iL Tinios? Is it okay? Can I bring girls back from outside?

What bar has the best quality?

Blink157
01-28-07, 21:49
Hi there,
my friend just told me what happen to his doorman last weekend.

Some bloke came into his bar parked his Harley Davidson infrnt, walked in and got himself a beer and bought a couple of LD for the gurls, SO far so gud.

When another costomer went in, he saw tht a filipina sat on his bike.

He run outside like a tiger , pull the filipina on her hair from his bike, The doorman told him she just sat down for a foto...BANG!! The bloke hit the doorman.....

Police came and ask the doorman if its ok to finish the guy quick....he agreed. The guy had to pay 15 000 p to the cops, 5000 p had to be given to the cops. !0 000 was fo the doorman. He bought some medicine for 1500 and gave 500 to trike driver and bought for 1000 p junkfood from joleybhees for the staff. Still got 7000 p left, excellent weekend pay so he says :D.

You cant hit filipinos in thei own counrty, would that happen somewhere in the Province, they guy wouldnt be seen again..

Neeedles to say, who wana go barhop with a Harley D.....

Happy hunting!!!


Blink

FireWalker
01-29-07, 04:49
Hello,
During my stay in AC I went to Agassya, this place has changed and is now more western friendly. All you have to do is to chat with the mama san , buy her a drink and she will recomand gurls who wana go with you.Agassya is still full of shit. The other night a friend and I went there to test the water. My firend has has lived there for almost two years and the mamasan knows him. We walked in told mamasan we wanted to barfine two girls right away. After some "bull" with the girls, she said "girls don't want to go. Maybe you sit down, buy drinks and talk to them." Same old crap. They want you to spend on lady drinks and waste your time. Avoid Agassya.

FireWalker
01-29-07, 04:57
I'm planning on taking my second trip to AC around the middle of February, does anybody know what the female/male ratio is around that time? I would appreciate any info.Dude,

Anytime is good. There are always plenty of girls to go around. Your choice of hotel may be only problem sometimes.

FireWalker
01-29-07, 05:06
Going on my first P4P trip in my life. Has anyone stayed there? How much of a problem back and forth from the bars? The price there is great..looks like a nice pool. I have budgeted myself a $100 a day, with a room for $20. EWR of $24 to $28,food, and maybe a ST here and there should be fine. Thanks,Try Dm Residente, Cold Drop Inn, Patio or Tiger for around 950 pesos ($20us) you will be much happier. For a good time you should budget around 125 a day excluding airfare. IMHO. If you stay at Patio, try breakfast at VFW.

FireWalker
01-29-07, 05:09
Going on my first P4P trip in my life. Has anyone stayed there? How much of a problem back and forth from the bars? The price there is great..looks like a nice pool. I have budgeted myself a $100 a day, with a room for $20. EWR of $24 to $28,food, and maybe a ST here and there should be fine. Thanks,I can put you in contact with a few trustworthy bargirl friends that you can go to for questions or help when you are there as well.

Bill Buxton
01-29-07, 11:53
Hi,

Has anyone stayed at iL Tinios? Is it okay? Can I bring girls back from outside?

What bar has the best quality?

Not sure about the hotel you are asking about.Yes the choice is up to you as far as the gal quality goes.You might like others find fugly.Try any bar here and you will find the right one for you I am sure.

B.B...

HenryV
01-29-07, 16:40
Perhaps "wage slaves" would be better.


IF NOT FOR MONEY, PEOPLE WOULD NEVER LIVE IN THE WEST
Bottom line MONEY; we are all the same: MONEY *****S

Ghost 13
01-29-07, 18:03
Dude,

Anytime is good. There are always plenty of girls to go around. Your choice of hotel may be only problem sometimes.You're right Firewalker I guess im just looking at it like a buffet line, I know there's gonna be enough food for me but i wanna get first dibs.

Has anybody stayed at the Blue Fields hotel also known as Lafayyete? I've been reading the forum but I haven't seen anybody post anything about it. Any info would be appreciated.

Blink157
01-29-07, 18:51
Agassya is still full of shit. The other night a friend and I went there to test the water. My firend has has lived there for almost two years and the mamasan knows him. We walked in told mamasan we wanted to barfine two girls right away. After some "bull" with the girls, she said "girls don't want to go. Maybe you sit down, buy drinks and talk to them." Same old crap. They want you to spend on lady drinks and waste your time. Avoid Agassya.
hehehehe,
I dont think in any of AC bars you can just walk in nowadays and ask the gurl or mama san right away to take the gurls barfine without buying a drink for them or without talkin to them, Maybe aka blow row you can, but I never been there, to hardcore for me.
Before I get fu..d I like to be kissed, the more more maganda the gurls are they least expect a drink. I can speak for myself , being in Agassya I got many gurls offerd to go with me, but I just wanted to be with a certain gurl and refused many times. If you wana shag right away I recomand MP in AC..roman bath is ok and one just beside sunlight internet (next to Wu office om mcarthur hi way)

By the way I spent some times with the gurls in Agassya, they dont like the koreans that much, the atmosphere nd the way they got treated, so its not bad that they are in AC, its not a competition...of course they like the money , but all in all they prefer western guys. Infact, some of the gurls prefer only wester guys and some only koreans and the lets say the other half u have to convinced them ;-)

Happy hunting!!

Blink

Any Hole
01-30-07, 00:33
This bar is Korean owned, and any western guy has got no chance of barfining anything decent there, and this is why anytime you go in there the place is deserted of customers, as all the ac regulars know this.

Yes of course they will let you buy then ladies drinks, but after that the bola bola sets in, they are on their mens, ect, just avoid, go to stingers instead round the corner.


hehehehe,

I dont think in any of AC bars you can just walk in nowadays and ask the gurl or mama san right away to take the gurls barfine without buying a drink for them or without talkin to them, Maybe aka blow row you can, but I never been there, to hardcore for me.

Before I get fu..d I like to be kissed, the more more maganda the gurls are they least expect a drink. I can speak for myself , being in Agassya I got many gurls offerd to go with me, but I just wanted to be with a certain gurl and refused many times. If you wana shag right away I recomand MP in AC..roman bath is ok and one just beside sunlight internet (next to Wu office om mcarthur hi way)

By the way I spent some times with the gurls in Agassya, they dont like the koreans that much, the atmosphere nd the way they got treated, so its not bad that they are in AC, its not a competition...of course they like the money , but all in all they prefer western guys. Infact, some of the gurls prefer only wester guys and some only koreans and the lets say the other half u have to convinced them ;-)

Happy hunting!!

Blink

Bill Buxton
01-30-07, 12:27
hehehehe,
I dont think in any of AC bars you can just walk in nowadays and ask the gurl or mama san right away to take the gurls barfine without buying a drink for them or without talkin to them, Maybe aka blow row you can, but I never been there, to hardcore for me.
Before I get fu..d I like to be kissed, the more more maganda the gurls are they least expect a drink. I can speak for myself , being in Agassya I got many gurls offerd to go with me, but I just wanted to be with a certain gurl and refused many times. If you wana shag right away I recomand MP in AC..roman bath is ok and one just beside sunlight internet (next to Wu office om mcarthur hi way)

By the way I spent some times with the gurls in Agassya, they dont like the koreans that much, the atmosphere nd the way they got treated, so its not bad that they are in AC, its not a competition...of course they like the money , but all in all they prefer western guys. Infact, some of the gurls prefer only wester guys and some only koreans and the lets say the other half u have to convinced them ;-)

Happy hunting!!

Blink

First time was last night and the quality yes i fact is low.I got a new gal yes 6 hrs offthe bus to go and after she got to the room she only wanted to stay 1 hr.I guess all the words from the friend or cousin were make him stupid.

Never again.There are quality places here and yes scamms up the ass.Buy a drink or two and find the one you want.You never have to rush there are way to many to get here.

B.B...

HenryV
01-30-07, 21:42
I totally disagree with your statement: "I dont think in any of AC bars you can just walk in nowadays and ask the gurl or mama san right away to take the gurls barfine without buying a drink . . ."

I have been in many AC bars and, for one reason or another, did not buy a drink - yet barfined the girl. You are the customer. Indeed, I would steer clear of any bar that made such demands.

Becasue of managements conduct at Agassya, I voted with my feet a long time ago, I simply don't go there.



hehehehe,
I dont think in any of AC bars you can just walk in nowadays and ask the gurl or mama san right away to take the gurls barfine without buying a drink for them or without talkin to them, Maybe aka blow row you can, but I never been there, to hardcore for me.
Before I get fu..d I like to be kissed, the more more maganda the gurls are they least expect a drink. I can speak for myself , being in Agassya I got many gurls offerd to go with me, but I just wanted to be with a certain gurl and refused many times. If you wana shag right away I recomand MP in AC..roman bath is ok and one just beside sunlight internet (next to Wu office om mcarthur hi way)

By the way I spent some times with the gurls in Agassya, they dont like the koreans that much, the atmosphere nd the way they got treated, so its not bad that they are in AC, its not a competition...of course they like the money , but all in all they prefer western guys. Infact, some of the gurls prefer only wester guys and some only koreans and the lets say the other half u have to convinced them ;-)

Happy hunting!!

Blink

Bill Buxton
01-31-07, 07:59
I totally disagree with your statement: "I dont think in any of AC bars you can just walk in nowadays and ask the gurl or mama san right away to take the gurls barfine without buying a drink . . ."

I have been in many AC bars and, for one reason or another, did not buy a drink - yet barfined the girl. You are the customer. Indeed, I would steer clear of any bar that made such demands.

Becasue of managements conduct at Agassya, I voted with my feet a long time ago, I simply don't go there.

You tell the gal you will pay the bf and also tell her to go get ready.You do not have to but drinks thats unreal.You are the boss paying the freight so stay sharp.If she wants a drink and will not go who cares get another there are thousands.I am sure when it comes to that she will go and get ready.


No bar has a rule on this buy a drink thing.Please never do anything here you are told you should by bar personel.They will tell you to jump off the bridge next.You gonna do that?????????

The gals need money thats why they work so make the offer and see what they say.Never buy a drink before asking the right questions first.How many bomX2 and how ling will you stay,and do you have your monthly.Ask and get the answers first and that makes the process smoother at the start.Sometimes you don't ask and then when you get back to the hotel you get a surprise.I hate that,ask first everytime.


B.B...

Fast Eddie 48
01-31-07, 08:05
I totally disagree with your statement: "I dont think in any of AC bars you can just walk in nowadays and ask the gurl or mama san right away to take the gurls barfine without buying a drink . . ."

I have been in many AC bars and, for one reason or another, did not buy a drink - yet barfined the girl. You are the customer. Indeed, I would steer clear of any bar that made such demands.

Becasue of managements conduct at Agassya, I voted with my feet a long time ago, I simply don't go there.


to billpsu


I was in AC 2 week ago walk into bedrock late around mid night after drinking at 2 other bar , I walk in see the girl I like and barfine her 1200 peso without buying a drink I don't drink acohol and I have done this at blue nile also but camelot do want you to buy a drink first .


fast eddie 48

Blink157
01-31-07, 10:42
hi,
yes agassya is korean owned and also Las vegas (some stunners there)

Bola2 is all ovr AC, Stingers doesnt impress me much I barfiend there some years ago, but I always give it alook when Im there to see whats new.

i just try to see other places and I barfined in Agassya, maybe it needs more time, but u can score there also. I dont mind to spent some lady drinks to get info bout the gurls working there who Im intersted. Of course its all bola2, its al fantasy and like I said before, Ac has a little freelance scene so its all restricted to the bars...(not talkin bout the hoookers along/near mc arthur or ac downtown)
Agassya isn tmy favoured bar, I just post it here, to share my experience, thats all, but I think Agassya has some stunners, thats why u might check that place out.
Im back in march and Im sure I go there again to see what is newand if I like one I go and barfine there again.

happy hunting!!!

Blink

X Man
01-31-07, 13:11
Yes, always think very carefully about advice you get. Take notes and keep records if possible. And then compare notes with other expats, and other people you meet. If you are a newbie, ask about restaurants, fares and tips and etc...BUT not from the people you expect to pay. Ask many questions....
For example, if you are in AC, ask the hote staff how much the tricycle ride is to abc bar.

So, find out what the costs are. Be prepared. Then, when you find the bikini-clad woman of your dreams....do you talk money? My advice is NO. You already know what the minimum payment is...

Before buying a drink...yes, you should ask the RIGHT questions. Of course the right questions are different for every lady and for every guy. My fav is where in Phil are you from...then talk about that place. Then I'll buy a drink. For a few bucks, I've scored a lot higher than the guy who asks, "do you lick scotum..."

Of course if she has your scrotum in the palm of her hand, the questions should be a bit more direct...
****


No bar has a rule on this buy a drink thing.Please never do anything here you are told you should by bar personel.They will tell you to jump off the bridge next.You gonna do that?????????

The gals need money thats why they work so make the offer and see what they say.Never buy a drink before asking the right questions first.

Bill Buxton
02-01-07, 01:57
X/WHATEVER

You would be surprisedhow many guys would and do ask bad things to the girl on the first meeting.Look around here do you think you are at the church.Look at whats walking up and down fields ave.I am sure the police would question most if they were walking in my neighborhood back home.

When you compare, compare apples to apples not apples to oranges.

Man In Japan
02-01-07, 03:31
The following message was posted by Mo for the general mongering public.

The bars were sold yesterday; Lollipop, Ziggy's and Treasure Island. It was not an easy decision as those, along with Voodoo, were great bars and great places to hang out and in EVERY poll on the boards rate in the top 5 bars in Angeles. Still, with my involvement in Subic and 65 years approaching rapidly, it was time to scale back a bit.

The new owner is a great guy. He's a commerical pilot who will be retiring in 6 months and will spend lots of time in AC. Running the bar operation will be another pilot (we now have 3 working pilots in town) who has lived here since October but was a regular visitor for years. Ron, the new owner, has been a minor shareholder in this operation for quite awhile and all of us have been friends for ages. They are not making any changes in operational style or personnel. It will be the same great staff who many of you have known such a long time. Plus, of course, the regular gang who hang out there will still be around. We will continue to handle their administration and maintainence.

It seems strange that for the first time in 11 years there is not a gogo bar with Mo's name on it. Kokomo's is alive and kicking. We've made some operational changes (hours and a new menu which will be implemented next week) and, of course 'Nutz is still there.

In the end, though, all this fun would not have been possible without YOU. Over the years, I've come to know thousands of visitors; many found us via the Internet. My sincere thanks to all of you for your patronage, support and, most of all, your friendship.

Azn Playa
02-01-07, 13:37
IF NOT FOR MONEY, PEOPLE WOULD NEVER LIVE IN THE WEST
Bottom line MONEY; we are all the same: MONEY *****S

Maybe for some people.

I left my country because of the higher earning potential in the 'East'.
Better to earn good money AND live in Asia.

Surrounded by asian pussy 24/365.

Spyda
02-02-07, 01:27
Hi there,

My friend just told me what happen to his doorman last weekend.

Some bloke came into his bar parked his Harley Davidson infrnt, walked in and got himself a beer and bought a couple of LD for the gurls, SO far so gud.

When another costomer went in, he saw tht a filipina sat on his bike.

He run outside like a tiger , pull the filipina on her hair from his bike, The doorman told him she just sat down for a foto...BANG!! The bloke hit the doorman.

Police came and ask the doorman if its ok to finish the guy quick. He agreed. The guy had to pay 15 000 p to the cops, 5000 p had to be given to the cops. !0 000 was fo the doorman. He bought some medicine for 1500 and gave 500 to trike driver and bought for 1000 p junkfood from joleybhees for the staff. Still got 7000 p left, excellent weekend pay so he says :D.

You cant hit filipinos in thei own counrty, would that happen somewhere in the Province, they guy wouldnt be seen again.

Neeedles to say, who wana go barhop with a Harley D.

Happy hunting!

BlinkSounds like he went off easy.

Vidda
02-03-07, 08:20
I tried to send a PM to you as follows, but it was blocked, please respond with another address so I can talk to you without me having to go thru the public forum.

"Hello,

My name is xxx and I am an Australian visiting again in April, usually stay at the Swiss Chalet when in Angeles. I read one of your posts and thought that I would like to meet you. Is that possible? Would you mind? I just wanna say hello and get some tips and buy you a beer. It is worth a great deal to me to know someone as familiar as you are with the Locals. I have been to the Phillipines 4 times already and have visited Davao, Cebu, Manila and surrounds Angeles and Olongapau. Hope you are agreeable to meet.

Regards xxx "

Country Club
02-03-07, 09:22
Hi Guys,

I will be going to Phils for my first time and will be in AC for a week or so from Mar 10-18. I hope I don't get overwhelmed by RTFF but I was wondering on safety in AC, particularly Fields and Perimeter areas. I will be traveling solo, (on business, taken care of all of it in Manila then the fun begins in AC) so I was wondering how safe it is to stroll alone in AC. One of my AC "gf" said I should always be walking with someone but I'm not sure if shes just being extra cautious, then again I have no idea how AC is. Help a AC virgin out. Also if any of you guys will be there around that time, maybe we can grab a beer, barhop and the veterans could show where the party is.

Thanks guys!

Blackeyes
02-03-07, 15:22
to dafacer

Well I am an chinese american born in hong kong grew up in the US and I go
to China 4 times a yr for business so I have an avantage over you yes I agree
manila and bangkok is much easier for you guys ,if you been to both pi and china I am sure you will agree with me serivce is much better in China , the 4
p4p in PI and no bbbj only cbj but in China is standard.


fast eddie 48Not correct. Had BBBJCIM this morning for 100 yuan in a BBS 5 minutes walk from my house.

Ghost 13
02-03-07, 19:39
Hi everybody,

I'll be going to AC on Feb 16 for a couple of weeks. This will be my second trip to AC so I still consider myself a newbie, so if anybody wants to meet up for a beer and maybe share some info please feel free to pm me.

Thanks

Towelboy2010
02-03-07, 23:07
I was there for the first time last Dec 4th and I was solo too. I only had 1 night so I stayed at the Wild Orchid Resort. I was never more than 2 or 3 blocks from the center of Fields Ave so I'm not sure of the outer areas.

I was out from 7pm until 6 am having met and played with 5 girls over the course of the night. My last trip out was at 5:30 am to the Dollhouse and I was walking alone and no one bothered me. I am 51 yrs old and about 230lbs. I felt safe.

You will probably have ONE problem. Deciding which one - of the thousands of girls - you will want to have while you're there each evening. I couldn't decide. So I ended up with a 1 night total of 5.

Not a bad problem to have at all.

Good Luck.


Hi Guys,

I will be going to Phils for my first time and will be in AC for a week or so from Mar 10-18. but I was wondering on safety in AC, particularly Fields and Perimeter areas. I will be traveling solo, (on business, taken care of all of it in Manila then the fun begins in AC) so I was wondering how safe it is to stroll alone in AC. One of my AC "gf" said I should always be walking with someone but I'm not sure if shes just being extra cautious, then again I have no idea how AC is.

Thanks guys!

Bill Buxton
02-04-07, 03:40
You will be fine stay alert and use your head.Ask for trouble and it's here play nice and the place will melt in your mouth.

B.B...

Yella Man
02-04-07, 04:47
Country Club,

I'll be in AC on 13 March, but by the time I get there you should be well indoctrinated in the ways of life on the strip. Hit me with a PM during that time if you still need a wingman or want to grab a beer.

Always on the Quest

Yella Man


Hi Guys,

I will be going to Phils for my first time and will be in AC for a week or so from Mar 10-18. I hope I don't get overwhelmed by RTFF but I was wondering on safety in AC, particularly Fields and Perimeter areas. I will be traveling solo, (on business, taken care of all of it in Manila then the fun begins in AC) so I was wondering how safe it is to stroll alone in AC. One of my AC "gf" said I should always be walking with someone but I'm not sure if shes just being extra cautious, then again I have no idea how AC is. Help a AC virgin out. Also if any of you guys will be there around that time, maybe we can grab a beer, barhop and the veterans could show where the party is.

Thanks guys!

Napalm
02-04-07, 14:44
Can someone advise me what the going rate is going from Manila to AC by taxi? And is this the preferred method or is there a better way? I will be arriving in Manila on the afternoon of the 6th, spending a day or two there and then heading to AC, and maybe Subic after that. This will be my first trip to the PI and I'm looking forward to the change of scenery from BKK and Pattaya.

Cheers
Napalm

Buko Max
02-04-07, 15:12
Can someone advise me what the going rate is going from Manila to AC by taxi? And is this the preferred method or is there a better way?
Private car or taxi : php 2500 give or take

"Fly The Bus" : php 500

Have a good trip!

Pute Nut
02-04-07, 16:03
Hi Guys,

I will be going to Phils for my first time and will be in AC for a week or so from Mar 10-18. I hope I don't get overwhelmed by RTFF but I was wondering on safety in AC, particularly Fields and Perimeter areas. I will be traveling solo, (on business, taken care of all of it in Manila then the fun begins in AC) so I was wondering how safe it is to stroll alone in AC. One of my AC "gf" said I should always be walking with someone but I'm not sure if shes just being extra cautious, then again I have no idea how AC is. Help a AC virgin out. Also if any of you guys will be there around that time, maybe we can grab a beer, barhop and the veterans could show where the party is.

Thanks guys!


Central bar district (Fields, Real st etc) is pretty safe. Further up on Perimeter where the props (aka tourist) police don't drive around in their van with flashing lights some extra caution is advisable at night, especially say past America/Europhil...

Yella Man
02-04-07, 17:07
Fly the Bus out of Swagman Hotel in Ermita for php 500. Stop in at LA Cafe while your waiting because it's very close to the hotel.

Always on the Quest

Yella Man


Private car or taxi : php 2500 give or take

"Fly The Bus" : php 500

Have a good trip!

Vidda
02-05-07, 02:31
An addressee always helps, Sorry for my oversight, but originally this was meant to be a PM.


I tried to send a PM to you as follows, but it was blocked, please respond with another address so I can talk to you without me having to go thru the public forum.

"Hello,

My name is xxx and I am an Australian visiting again in April, usually stay at the Swiss Chalet when in Angeles. I read one of your posts and thought that I would like to meet you. Is that possible? Would you mind? I just wanna say hello and get some tips and buy you a beer. It is worth a great deal to me to know someone as familiar as you are with the Locals. I have been to the Phillipines 4 times already and have visited Davao, Cebu, Manila and surrounds Angeles and Olongapau. Hope you are agreeable to meet.

Regards xxx "

Ekspat
02-05-07, 07:58
I'll be in AC on 13 March,
Will be there 16th onwards for 5 night.
For some beers, PM me.
Cheers!

X Man
02-05-07, 10:19
Towelboy, thanks for the post, but I want to hear more. I would love to hear the whole story of that one night. I'm going to assume you were playing with more than one at a time. Even in my heyday, I never did more the three different ladies in different sessions over the course of one 24 hour period.

Of course I've traded in the jackrabbit method of jackhammer screwing and now have settled into a more (middle aged) mild, relaxed way of play where the intercourse lasts longer. I probably get more thrusts per day now than when I was 20. Still haven't acquired a chemical dependency ...other than alcohol.

X


I was there for the first time last Dec 4th and I was solo too. I only had 1 night so I stayed at the Wild Orchid Resort. I was never more than 2 or 3 blocks from the center of Fields Ave so I'm not sure of the outer areas.

I was out from 7pm until 6 am having met and played with 5 girls over the course of the night. My last trip out was at 5:30 am to the Dollhouse and I was walking alone and no one bothered me. I am 51 yrs old and about 230lbs. I felt safe.

You will probably have ONE problem. Deciding which one - of the thousands of girls - you will want to have while you're there each evening. I couldn't decide. So I ended up with a 1 night total of 5.

Not a bad problem to have at all.

Good Luck.

Napalm
02-05-07, 12:06
Thanks Yella Man and Mattrick, I'm gonna try the fly the bus option from Swagman Hotel, since LA Cafe is on my to do list.

Napalm
02-07-07, 11:36
Ended up splitting a taxi with a guy I met at the airport. Stayed last night at America Hotel, semi decent room for 2400 pesos. Went bar hopping with my taxi friend and hit every bar/club from America Hotel up to Camelot. Camelot was IMO the best out of the places we went with lot's of good looking girls and a friendly atmosphere. My friend pulled a cutie and I went a couple of bars back to get a waitress I liked from earlier. Cute girl, kind of petite but when I got her back to the room I found out she had a big c-section scar which kind of turned me off. No problem just turned her over doggie and the scar disappeared! My fault for not sticking with the half naked girls where you can pretty much see what you are getting first. Good attitude and performance although I asked her to leave around 3:30am so I could sleep by myself. 1300 BF and gave her 250 tip on the way out.

Moved to ABC hotel today and this is a very nice hotel, although at 5700 something pesos for the jaccuzi room it is waaaaaay more than I ever pay for a room, but I wanted to treat myself for one night. If you don't mind spending about $120 USD per night and want a really nice room I would definitely recommend this place.

Had a burger at Mo's and made a room reservation for tomorrow there. 1600 pesos per night at Mo's which is more up my ally. Stopped in at La Pasha during the day and four girls were up on stage rehearsing their dance moves, with 6-7 more girls watching. They were really getting after it, looks worth investigating later.

X Man
02-07-07, 13:58
Thanks Napalm - especialy for the hotel review.

I haven't been to AC in two years, but always liked America Hotel because of the cheap prices and nice pool. Service can be bad...very bad.......

It is walking distance to the main action area....if you are reasonably fit.

Some rooms have mirrors -- bring your own light bulbs.

No never mind, they've probably remodeled those rooms by now. The rooms in front are noisy.

Napalm doesn't say where he was, but I suspect he had a nice back room which has a balcony which overlooks the 24-hour-pool.

Last time I was there, they had a really cheap windowless first floor room under the stairs. I don't know if it's still available, and I would never stay there, but some of you might be interested.

Napalm, give us more info please...we want to know what you think.

Web Connect
02-07-07, 15:33
Hi there,

My friend just told me what happen to his doorman last weekend.

Some bloke came into his bar parked his Harley Davidson infrnt, walked in and got himself a beer and bought a couple of LD for the gurls, SO far so gud.

When another costomer went in, he saw tht a filipina sat on his bike.

He run outside like a tiger , pull the filipina on her hair from his bike, The doorman told him she just sat down for a foto...BANG!! The bloke hit the doorman.....

Police came and ask the doorman if its ok to finish the guy quick....he agreed. The guy had to pay 15 000 p to the cops, 5000 p had to be given to the cops. !0 000 was fo the doorman. He bought some medicine for 1500 and gave 500 to trike driver and bought for 1000 p junkfood from joleybhees for the staff. Still got 7000 p left, excellent weekend pay so he says :D.

You cant hit filipinos in thei own counrty, would that happen somewhere in the Province, they guy wouldnt be seen again..

Neeedles to say, who wana go barhop with a Harley D.

Happy hunting!

BlinkThat is some funny stuff ! Even more so when it is some wanna be biker :)

I see white guys coming here all the time thinking they own the place just becuase they have a few dollars ! Alwasys good to hear when they are put back in their place!

Kudos to the Flips!

Napalm
02-08-07, 03:23
X Man,

Judging from the carpet and the furniture I don't think they have remodeled since your last visit. It's not a complete dive but for 2400 PHP I think better deals are out there, and much closer to the action. I was in a room upstairs and in the very back, away from the pool. No balcony and I was woken up several times between 3am and 7am by the roosters and other assorted noise from the local folks just behind the hotel. By light of day I noticed that the screen covering the window has a trap door you can reach through and close the window which would have cut down somewhat on the noise.

The bathroom light was out and in it's place they had another light bulb and socket hanging hanging down from the lamp and plugged into the wall. Kind of ghetto but it worked. Hot and cold water and AC worked well, didn't bother with the TV. They did have a nice big mirror on the wall angled for your viewing pleasure. The rooms are big, with several armchairs arranged in a little sitting area by the fridge, which has an assortment of items in it. The bellboy will check the items from a list of what should be in there and cross off anything that isn't, then ask you to sign the list.

All in all I wouldn't really recommend it, unless everything else is booked up and then only as a stop gap measure until you can get something better.

Napalm
02-08-07, 04:49
For my second night in AC I had a few places I had read about here on the forum which I wanted to check out. Specifically Blue Nile, Dollhouse, La Pasha and Nero's. Started off at Lancelot, had a bottle of coke and left since nothing looked that good to me.

Next stop was La Pasha. Didn't see the four girls from earlier in the day but the stage was packed with about 30-40 girls. I immediately saw a really good looking waitress and sat down on the couch next to her. She was about an 8 on my scale with a very pretty face, long hair and incredibly silky smooth legs. If she would have had a bigger ass I might have BF'd her right then and there. Luckily I remembered my experience with the waitress from the other night and decided to wait.

Went across the street and down to Blue Nile and the quality of girls went up a few notches. Kind of a unique set up (well the first time I've seen it at least) with the girls up on an elevated stage which rises and lowers to let girls on and off. Ordered a beer and went upstairs to get a better view. Saw a pretty cute girl on stage with curly long hair who was my type but again not quite as much ass as I like. The bunch on stage soon got off en mass and I pulled the cute one over as she walked by. She had been standing next to me for about 30 seconds when a waitress came up and wanted me to buy a LD. As I was looking at the waitress and considering if I wanted to do that or not she gave the girl her little pad of paper and the girl wrote something down. So then I'm thinking... I hope she didn't just write down a drink order because I didn't say yes. Now, I know a LD isn't that expensive. 150 pesos isn't going to kill me but I was kind of annoyed that they just presumed I would buy one without even waiting for me to say yes so I thought to myself screw that I'm out and went back downstairs.

So I'm standing at the bottom of the stairs checking out the stage and I see the waitress go by with a drink headed upstairs. And I'm thinking, hey I didn't order that shit so it's not my problem. Waitress comes back down and hands me the check and I say hey I didn't order this, I never said yes to buying a LD. Well she gets a stunned look on her face and rushes back upstairs. So then I felt a little bit bad for the dancer, not so much the waitress but I was torn between feeling like a cheap bastard, feeling bad for the girl because either the waitress would take the drink back (or maybe she would have to pay for it herself?) and feeling like that's what they get for automatically assuming I'm going to buy a LD and not even waiting for me to say yes. Now, in hind sight I can definitely say that it's partly my fault for not immediately making clear that I did or did not want to buy the girl a LD. I will not make that mistake again.

Anyways, I sit down and start checking out the girls on stage. There are several that are my type and I see one that has the look I like and a nice ass too. I tell the waitress I want that one and she hits her with a little laser pointer and the stage lowers to let her off. Order another Heiniken for me and a LD for her and try to judge if there is any chemistry. It doesn't seem like it at first and I start thinking I may have to throw this one back in the pond. Our drinks arrive and hers is a glowing green concoction, which she offers for me to taste. Vodka and redbull. Not bad, wonder how they get it to glow though. So I'm trying to judge whether or not to BF this one. I had several girls grabbing my junk earlier when I walked by but this one is just kind of sitting there, and doesn't seem to be too into me. Finally I decide fuck it, she hot and I'm gonna BF her. If she's not into me oh well I'll just rail her, send her on her way and get some sleep.

1200 BF and 300 for the drinks and we're out. I'm pretty hungry though so we stop at Margarita Station for some food. I try to get her to order something but she doesn't want to eat. I order some mini chimichangas and a coke for me and three tequila shots for her since she said earlier that after three shots she's drunk. Now, it may have partly been that I was so hungry but those chimichangas were damn good. I imagine that the rest of the food there is pretty good too. We finish and head back to the hotel. I had also asked her if she wanted anything from the food vendors on the side of the street but she said no, and we stopped at 7-11 before we hit MS and the only thing she wanted was a bottle of mineral water.

Long story short once we got back to the room she turned out to be a decent GFE after all. It may have helped that I was going out of my way trying to be nice to her and make her feel comfortable... or maybe not. Who knows what goes on inside the mind of a bargirl. I briefly considered kicking this one out too around 3am but she was pretty sweet, rubbing my head and back until I fell asleep. Woke up around 8am and had a little morning session with her then gave her 400 PHP and told her goodbye. Her stage name is Jen and she's part Filipino part Spanish. Nice girl. Nice ass.

Fast Eddie 48
02-08-07, 17:47
X Man,

Judging from the carpet and the furniture I don't think they have remodeled since your last visit. It's not a complete dive but for 2400 PHP I think better deals are out there, and much closer to the action. I was in a room upstairs and in the very back, away from the pool. No balcony and I was woken up several times between 3am and 7am by the roosters and other assorted noise from the local folks just behind the hotel. By light of day I noticed that the screen covering the window has a trap door you can reach through and close the window which would have cut down somewhat on the noise.

The bathroom light was out and in it's place they had another light bulb and socket hanging hanging down from the lamp and plugged into the wall. Kind of ghetto but it worked. Hot and cold water and AC worked well, didn't bother with the TV. They did have a nice big mirror on the wall angled for your viewing pleasure. The rooms are big, with several armchairs arranged in a little sitting area by the fridge, which has an assortment of items in it. The bellboy will check the items from a list of what should be in there and cross off anything that isn't, then ask you to sign the list.

All in all I wouldn't really recommend it, unless everything else is booked up and then only as a stop gap measure until you can get something better.



to x man


I stay at the pacific breeze last month just open 2 month ago very nice pool very good to swim in deep end is over 10ft with a roman design 2400 peso a night , the pool in american is surrounded by the hotel so you don't get any sun at all , pacific breeze is own by central park is around the corner very good location and close to the actions and one of the nicest place in ac.

fast eddie 48

Too Jaded
02-09-07, 08:36
Moved to ABC hotel today and this is a very nice hotel, although at 5700 something pesos for the jaccuzi room it is waaaaaay more than I ever pay for a room, but I wanted to treat myself for one night. If you don't mind spending about $120 USD per night and want a really nice room I would definitely recommend this place.



I took a look at the website and it actually looks pretty nice. Has in room internet and in room safe, plus a jacuzzi, sounds like a good place to crash! But how close is it to the action?

I am taking a non-pro I met to Palawan for a few days, then I am going to Fly the Bus and head up, thanks everyone for the info ahead of time.

2J

Pute Nut
02-09-07, 10:02
That is some funny stuff ! Even more so when it is some wanna be biker :)

I see white guys coming here all the time thinking they own the place just becuase they have a few dollars ! Alwasys good to hear when they are put back in their place!

Kudos to the Flips!

[ racist content ignored ]

Firstly, the moral of the story happens to be just that; if you "have a few dollars" you can purchase justice on a pay-as-you-go basis, like it or not. This quick settlement scheme has its pros and cons, obviously.

Secondly, the whole incident could have been avoided at at least two times. The filipina who used the motorbike for a photographic session without permission could simply have asked the owner beforehand. In fact I'd venture to say that it's common wisdom in many parts of the world (excluding the Philippines) not to touch other peoples belongings without permission. This goes especially for HD bikes, I'd say ;) Moreover, if the guard hadn't commented the (for a HD owner) pretty mild correction, the case would probably have closed right there. So he asked for it, got it and the 10K LOL.

Thirdly, the general idea of the benevolence of having different sets of rules for foreigners and locals, which you seem to propagate, is not very appealing IMO.

Kudos to the Saudis for "correcting flips" in Saudi?

I think not.

Pute Nut
02-09-07, 10:28
I took a look at the website and it actually looks pretty nice. Has in room internet and in room safe, plus a jacuzzi, sounds like a good place to crash! But how close is it to the action?


It's w/in walking distance to central bar district Fields/Real st.

As of late last night they had a banner flying across the road welcoming "hot air baloonists" and also offering a 20% "Valentines discount" Feb 1 thru 28. Haven't checked out their rooms but the lobby sure looks posh enough and the buffet they offered at New Years was very nice.

FireWalker
02-09-07, 11:43
It's w/in walking distance to central bar district Fields/Real st.

As of late last night they had a banner flying across the road welcoming "hot air baloonists" and also offering a 20% "Valentines discount" Feb 1 thru 28. Haven't checked out their rooms but the lobby sure looks posh enough and the buffet they offered at New Years was very nice.

It is closer to Perimeter action but you can easily walk to Fields. I think it is more suitable for people who need higher security, as their doormen are armed under their slick suits. I think you might see them getting realistic though. They have a chalkboard sign out now advertising the restaurant fare. Prices are not far out of line from competing restaurants.

But the security issue might not be realistic either. Once you are outside the confines, you are back in real world with the rest of us.

FireWalker
02-09-07, 11:59
Can someone advise me what the going rate is going from Manila to AC by taxi? And is this the preferred method or is there a better way? I will be arriving in Manila on the afternoon of the 6th, spending a day or two there and then heading to AC, and maybe Subic after that. This will be my first trip to the PI and I'm looking forward to the change of scenery from BKK and Pattaya.

Cheers
Napalm
You can take 5 Star from Pasay to Dau for less than 200 pesos. At Dau take tryke to your hotel for 50-70. Very comfortable on bus. Be friendly with bus driver. Return same way they run every 30 minutes. Pasay terminal is near airport and it is about 150 pesos by meter.

subic is kinda boring unless you want to swim with whales. Make reservation ahead of time. Watch out in bars. Make sure you strike deal in front of mamasan. They will run on you after one pop, no matter what you agree on. Some good looking girls though, esp at Hollywood's. 1500 peso barfine. Do not tip until you walk her out to street.Do not tip in hotel room, I suspect that some girls pull tampo to extract more money.

Also there are airline deals on Cebu Pacific right now. I took 4 day trip to Cebu for two at around 95 USD and that was out of Clark in AC. Go to Website.

FireWalker
02-09-07, 12:33
I can't say this too much. Spend more time in the Perimeter Bars, guys. I think alot of people hear how they are "Dive" bars or that the girls aren't as hot or whatever.

Here's how I describe the difference:

Fields is glitz, abundance, lots of makeup.

Perimeter is your neighborhood bar with a dance floor.

Remember when you moved into a new neighborhood and you tried the local haunts till you found "your spot"? That is Perimeter. Fields wants your money NOW. They can't stay in business any other way. Perimeter wants your money by repeat business. A little today. A little tomorrow. Etc.

Here's how I was trained and it works well for me. 3pm head to Perimeter Bars. Stampede, Gentlemans Club. Doctor Holm's, Thigh Hi's. Nasty Duck. Honeyko's Lost in Asia. Try them in different combos during the late afternoon. 35-50 for a beer. 100 or so for lady drinks. Be tight with your money, not because you are cheap. Make them work for you. If you make mistakes with choice of girl, let it be here.

Also, you'll start to notice something. There are some interesting girls here. How many times have you taken girl off stage on Fields and kinda were disappointed in her looks up close? That generally doesn't happen on Perimeter. What you see is what you get. The lighting in less sophisticated. Also you will find some of the waitresses look pretty good, esp. when they are not hotile or as pushy on Field. Let them tell you about the girls or even ask questions for you. If you buy a lady drink in these bars, the girls really appreciate it. That means they have lunch money guaranteed for tomorrow. That is literally how they think about it. The waitress is happy if you give her a 20-25 peso tip. If she sucked or was unattentive, leave a peso or nothing. Every time I go to Gentlemans Club when I get in town, I get sent a beer or a shot. I have only barfined a girl once there in 3 trips.

If you don't find your liking for barfine, so what? Have a good time. You can always head to Field later. An interesting thing happens too. You find your self not putting up with Fields bullshit. You will play YOUR game not the bars game. And your picks on Fieds will improve.

Just my take after 3 trips and barhopping with someone who lives there.

FireWalker
02-09-07, 12:36
Central bar district (Fields, Real st etc) is pretty safe. Further up on Perimeter where the props (aka tourist) police don't drive around in their van with flashing lights some extra caution is advisable at night, especially say past America/Europhil...

It is fine up there, just don't walk in America/ Europhil area at night. Take jeepney to far end of Permeter. Nasty Duck, Fire and Ice, Honeyko's, Lost in Asia, etc. I've never had a problem up there.

Pute Nut
02-09-07, 19:48
It is fine up there, just don't walk in America/ Europhil area at night. Take jeepney to far end of Permeter. Nasty Duck, Fire and Ice, Honeyko's, Lost in Asia, etc. I've never had a problem up there.

Well if you, with a full 3 trips under your belt, feel fit to be an AC security advisor who am I to argue with you?

As someone who walks this area practically every night my humble point is; since this area is not patrolled by tourist police and is partly poorly lit and/or desolate it's a favorite spot for some lowlifes. Please be aware that many of these guys and "girls" do carry weapons and if it's your lucky day..who knows?

Pute Nut
02-09-07, 20:03
It is closer to Perimeter action but you can easily walk to Fields.

Yes it should be, since it's actually on Perimeter lol. This area is quickly getting "attached" to Fields now though...and the new project that will rise on the lot of present wet market will further underscore this trend IMO..

For any hoteliers in spe out there the lot next to ABC hotel was fenced with a very nice industry-strength barbed wire the day before yesterday..and a Lot For Lease sign was also posted.

AC needs more hotels! Why not build a hip-hop themed hotel there? The DEF Hotel, of course!

PeakView
02-10-07, 07:12
I have found that in AC the best bet is to ALWAYS go for the waitresses or door girls. They are usually the best looking and most personable girls at any bar. You can also chat them up extensively while just hanging out and having a drink. It is amazing how many guys don't know that they are available. One of my favorite things is to just walk down the street and briefly flirt with the door girls at every bar I pass. It is great fun and you can find a honey in no time like that.


Hi Egg:

An excellent report you wrote! However, I would not generalize "never barfine a waitress". It depends a little on the place, I suppose. Ironically I had never barfined a dancer at "La Pasha", but several times one of the cute waitresses there - and had always a great time with them!

In terms of "health check" you are right, some girls might be a little hesitant to get barfined the night before. But like always in life there are exemptions. Yesterday night for instance I barfined a cute dancer from "Heartbreakers", today at 6am I f***ed her the third time before she finally left - directly to the health center! :)

Cheers - Hesekiels

Senser
02-10-07, 08:42
Thanks for you info on perimeter bars. Very usefull since I have never been to AC before and always about the 'famous' bars on fields ave.

Does anyone have experience with 950 Condotel (especialley the standard rooms)?

I'm looking for a cheap, simple but clean hotel in reasonably quiet surrounding.
Gonna be 22 yo when I hit AC, no need to impress the girls with the room and a big portemonnaie ;))

PeakView
02-10-07, 09:45
Fed has RAISED rates. Corporate profits are at a record highs. Economic forecasts are good. Dollar is declining simply because too many of them of been created out of thin air by the government and fractional reserve banking. They are literally "worth less". There hasn't been price inflation in manufactured items because of the competition from other countries. There has been TREMENDOUS inflation in housing and financial assets. That is where all the excess dollars have gone. People outside the US know the dollars are worth less but they can't sell all at once or they will crash the dollar and then their dollars really will be worthless. If you are an American you should definiitely invest in foreign currencies. It is all more complicated than this, but this is he basic answer.


Nutshell: Shitty US economic forecast-->Fed lowers interest rates-->US bonds, bills and notes pay less-->people dump or avoid dollars to invest elsewhere-->demand for dollar drops-->value of dollar drops.

PeakView
02-10-07, 12:31
This seems like backward logic. Most of the girls love to go bar hopping beforehand as a sign of respect. You (appear to be) not treating them like a *****. Much better sex IMO afterwards. They love to see their friends, but it is easy enough to buy drinks only for who you want to buy them. Just laugh with her and say "I know this game". Who is worried about spies? You WANT them to know you take other girls. The only girl who will think negative is one you lied to about something. If they play the guilt card it is all a big act. Don't fall for it.

Besides, it can be fun to bar hop! Do some shots. Get a little crazy. Dance around. See what a waitress will do for a tip (maybe your "tip"). Don't you guys go to have fun or is it just about sex? From the many sad sacks I see in AC I think it is the latter. Very few guys appear to be actually enjoying themselves.


Good point WebConnexxion. I don't really understand the thinking of barhopping with the bar girls. I really don't think there is anything good coming out of it in the end. The woman might see friends or family of hers and get you to buy drinks for them, and they become instant spies for her as you prance around with her. Another woman you might have been with thinks negatively of you for coming to her bar with another woman. I know it really ain't crap but if you want to play the game it doesn't hurt to respect her in some ways. Of course, running into guys that do what this original issue of someone trying to get your barfine's number. Personally, I don't really care, as I know the game. Just because you barfined her, doesn't mean you own her for whenever. Get real. Sure it spoils it for you a little bit, but it also grounds you in reminding you where you are. Unless you think you are going to marry her and such, who cares. Even more reason to stop the barhopping and just pound away.

FireWalker
02-10-07, 22:17
Well if you, with a full 3 trips under your belt, feel fit to be an AC security advisor who am I to argue with you?

As someone who walks this area practically every night my humble point is; since this area is not patrolled by tourist police and is partly poorly lit and/or desolate it's a favorite spot for some lowlifes. Please be aware that many of these guys and "girls" do carry weapons and if it's your lucky day..who knows?

Cute tone to your voice, I'm getting a hard on.

Actually you will probably find more lowlife's in the Field area where there are more targets. Sure you need to use normal caution everywhere(esp. travel in pairs, don't get too drunk), but no need for paranioa. The police carry weapons too, and they are the ones I worry about the most.

FireWalker
02-10-07, 22:25
X Man,

Judging from the carpet and the furniture I don't think they have remodeled since your last visit. It's not a complete dive but for 2400 PHP I think better deals are out there, and much closer to the action. I was in a room upstairs and in the very back, away from the pool. No balcony and I was woken up several times between 3am and 7am by the roosters and other assorted noise from the local folks just behind the hotel. By light of day I noticed that the screen covering the window has a trap door you can reach through and close the window which would have cut down somewhat on the noise.

The bathroom light was out and in it's place they had another light bulb and socket hanging hanging down from the lamp and plugged into the wall. Kind of ghetto but it worked. Hot and cold water and AC worked well, didn't bother with the TV. They did have a nice big mirror on the wall angled for your viewing pleasure. The rooms are big, with several armchairs arranged in a little sitting area by the fridge, which has an assortment of items in it. The bellboy will check the items from a list of what should be in there and cross off anything that isn't, then ask you to sign the list.

All in all I wouldn't really recommend it, unless everything else is booked up and then only as a stop gap measure until you can get something better.

Just to let you know, the America Hotel and guests were robbed at gunpoint in September by masked men. This was a week before my September visit to AC. Pretty bold, just something to consider.

Country Club
02-11-07, 05:58
I will be in AC March 11 to the 18. I will be with some business friends but they will pretty much be occupied with their gf's as they have done the bar scene already. I've decided to take a few days for myself and take in the city before I connect with my own gfs. Want to see if anybody will be around so we can hit some bars. This will be my first time in AC so it would great to go around with someone who knows the place.

Senser- If you are around that time let me know, I?m 27 and looking for a wingman. Cheers fellas, cant wait to experience this city for myself.

Napalm
02-11-07, 06:52
I took a look at the website and it actually looks pretty nice. Has in room internet and in room safe, plus a jacuzzi, sounds like a good place to crash! But how close is it to the action?

2J

It's a bit of a walk to the Fields bars. Probably took me about 10-15 minutes on foot. I like walking but if you pull a girl from Fields you may want to take a trike back to the hotel. Probably safer too at night to take a trike.

Napalm
02-11-07, 06:58
Stayed at Kokonuts for one night and will not repeat. 1600 PHP room, not a bad price, basic no frills room but the noise from downstairs made it almost impossible to sleep. The staff were all very friendly and courteous though. Nice place to hang out, eat and drink. They have a private van going to Subic for 400PHP or you can catch fly the bus there for the same price.

Key Master
02-11-07, 07:45
This seems like backward logic. Most of the girls love to go bar hopping beforehand as a sign of respect. You (appear to be) not treating them like a *****. Much better sex IMO afterwards. They love to see their friends, but it is easy enough to buy drinks only for who you want to buy them. Just laugh with her and say "I know this game". Who is worried about spies? You WANT them to know you take other girls. The only girl who will think negative is one you lied to about something. If they play the guilt card it is all a big act. Don't fall for it.

Besides, it can be fun to bar hop! Do some shots. Get a little crazy. Dance around. See what a waitress will do for a tip (maybe your "tip"). Don't you guys go to have fun or is it just about sex? From the many sad sacks I see in AC I think it is the latter. Very few guys appear to be actually enjoying themselves.

Everybody is going to have their own opinion. You think it's backwards and someone might think your opinion is backwards thinking. That's new to me that going bar hopping gains you more respect and that the sex is better after bar hopping with your bar fine.. I've done the bar hopping a couple different times but didn't notice a difference vs. not. I prefer to take them to get something to eat than to bar hop. There's not a lot to do in AC at night except hit bars. I prefer to hit them without a woman in tow, but that's me. You can do all the stuff mentioned shots, getting crazy, dance and stuff without a bar fine in tow. Maybe some people don't know that. And in regards to falling for the crap from the women there, I don't 99% of the time, but at the same time I don't like to put myself in position to be tested either, but that's me.

Key Master
02-11-07, 07:57
I have found that in AC the best bet is to ALWAYS go for the waitresses or door girls. They are usually the best looking and most personable girls at any bar. You can also chat them up extensively while just hanging out and having a drink. It is amazing how many guys don't know that they are available. One of my favorite things is to just walk down the street and briefly flirt with the door girls at every bar I pass. It is great fun and you can find a honey in no time like that.

I'm going to have to get my eyes checked before I go back to AC. I've gone through trips where I've taken mostly door girls and waitresses. I then came back on the next trip and took all dancers. In all my trips, I cannot say that the way to go is to bar fine dancers or non dancers. My best bet is to find someone I'm attracted to both physically and personality and hopefully she treats me well. In my experiences there are no absolutes here. When taking waitresses and door girls you see less of them physically. If you are not into taking women with stretch marks from previous pregnancies or someone who might be a little chunky, you might want to do some inspection when they sit with you or you might have a surprise when you get back to your room. The waitress outfits are very sexy most of the time there, but can be deceiving to the eyes in reality. But then again the lighting in a lot of the bars can be deceiving period. My advice is to find someone you like whether they are door girl, waitress, or dancer and hopefully it turns out well. Sometimes the personality might change when outside the bar.

Pute Nut
02-11-07, 08:45
Cute tone to your voice, I'm getting a hard on.

Actually it's against the board rules to discuss this deviation of yours, besides I'm not interested..lol

Back to the topic: I didn't make any quantitative comparisons, I just stated that this area is a favorite spot for SOME lowlifes. Obviously there are more guys, good and bad, in Fields, but the presence of props police and a real police station smack dab in the middle sure keeps things in pretty good check there.

I walk around all over AC day and night, but the only place I've ever encountered some "incidences" has been in this area. Luckily all of them ended well and most were even aborted before they started...

That's my view..but of course as with anything else in Asia - Up To You.

FireWalker
02-11-07, 11:43
Thanks for you info on perimeter bars. Very usefull since I have never been to AC before and always about the 'famous' bars on fields ave.

Does anyone have experience with 950 Condotel (especialley the standard rooms)?

I'm looking for a cheap, simple but clean hotel in reasonably quiet surrounding.
Gonna be 22 yo when I hit AC, no need to impress the girls with the room and a big portemonnaie ;))

I always suggest DM Residente, as it is close to Fields. It is 3 blocks off so you don't have tryke noise in the morning. They have a small pool. but it is not a "hang out" pool. 950 pesos standard room, no water problems. They have website.

FireWalker
02-11-07, 11:46
It's a bit of a walk to the Fields bars. Probably took me about 10-15 minutes on foot. I like walking but if you pull a girl from Fields you may want to take a trike back to the hotel. Probably safer too at night to take a trike.

The main reason you take a tryke with your barfine is so that you don't spoil your future game. In other words, don't be seen with other girls.

FireWalker
02-11-07, 11:54
Actually it's against the board rules to discuss this deviation of yours, besides I'm not interested..lol

Back to the topic: I didn't make any quantitative comparisons, I just stated that this area is a favorite spot for SOME lowlifes. Obviously there are more guys, good and bad, in Fields, but the presence of props police and a real police station smack dab in the middle sure keeps things in pretty good check there.

I walk around all over AC day and night, but the only place I've ever encountered some "incidences" has been in this area. Luckily all of them ended well and most were even aborted before they started...

That's my view..but of course as with anything else in Asia - Up To You.

Sorry, I couldn't tell by your user name that you were a guy.

Also, more guys are scammed with police involvement in the Field Ave. area as well.

My point is that you don't have to be paranoid or over cautious in the Perimeter Bars. If anyone feels they "don't want to risk it", go to Perimeter in the afternoon and early evening, then head to Fields at night.

Pute Nut
02-11-07, 12:01
I always suggest DM Residente, as it is close to Fields. It is 3 blocks off so you don't have tryke noise in the morning. They have a small pool. but it is not a "hang out" pool. 950 pesos standard room, no water problems. They have website.

DM is filipino-owned nickel-and-dime you operation that has some really moldy rooms. If you fancy paying an extra 10 pesos for your extra TP this is the place for you. [OTOH they're quite generous sponsors w/in the local filipino community, go figure...] Also, the security guard is often sleeping at night, making it possible for anyone to reach your room...for good or bad lol

For P 950 you can get a clean aircon room at Anchorage Inn on Real St, right in the middle of bar district. If you up that a little to about 30 US you can stay at Central Park, good value and tightly run by expats.

Pute Nut
02-11-07, 12:11
Sorry, I couldn't tell by your user name that you were a guy.

Also, more guys are scammed with police involvement in the Field Ave. area as well.

My point is that you don't have to be paranoid or over cautious in the Perimeter Bars. If anyone feels they "don't want to risk it", go to Perimeter in the afternoon and early evening, then head to Fields at night.

Apology accepted, but you really need to read up on Occams Razor..

Of course, there is absolutely no need to be paranoid in AC, in fact I'd say it's safer than many (most?) of the crime-ridden big cities in the west. But cautious..on Perimeter yes!

PeakView
02-12-07, 03:40
I am presenting some alternatives and reasons why to bar hop with a BF when someone says, "I don't get it". I do get it! As for the respect thing? Absolutely. But you need to read the girl first. You can tell if they like to go out or if they just want the quick sex, get paid and get it over with. It is only fun to take out the party girls. Hey, I've taken out one and come back with two more free (their friends) several times. Is a girl going to give you her friends if she is having a bad time and doesn't feel respected? Doubtful. Yes, of course the other girls expect a little something, but it has been trivial. My observation in AC is that the vast majority of guys do not let their hair down so to speak and forget to have a good time. I am not taking about wild antics. I rarely see anyone even smile. Maybe one in five guys in a bar appears to be having a decent time. My post is not for the old hands who have a way they like to do things. It is for the lurkers, newbies, and other people who haven't beeen to AC yet or the infrequent visitor who wants to up his game next time around.


Everybody is going to have their own opinion. You think it's backwards and someone might think your opinion is backwards thinking. That's new to me that going bar hopping gains you more respect and that the sex is better after bar hopping with your bar fine.. I've done the bar hopping a couple different times but didn't notice a difference vs. not. I prefer to take them to get something to eat than to bar hop. There's not a lot to do in AC at night except hit bars. I prefer to hit them without a woman in tow, but that's me. You can do all the stuff mentioned shots, getting crazy, dance and stuff without a bar fine in tow. Maybe some people don't know that. And in regards to falling for the crap from the women there, I don't 99% of the time, but at the same time I don't like to put myself in position to be tested either, but that's me.

PeakView
02-12-07, 03:48
One of the difficult parts about chat boards is that if you don't write a book for each post and cover every possible alternative and nuance, someone else will. All your points are well taken. I did get a little carried away with the "always" thing. What I really meant was that they should always be considered at every place a guy goes. To say "never" is a big mistake.


I'm going to have to get my eyes checked before I go back to AC. I've gone through trips where I've taken mostly door girls and waitresses. I then came back on the next trip and took all dancers. In all my trips, I cannot say that the way to go is to bar fine dancers or non dancers. My best bet is to find someone I'm attracted to both physically and personality and hopefully she treats me well. In my experiences there are no absolutes here. When taking waitresses and door girls you see less of them physically. If you are not into taking women with stretch marks from previous pregnancies or someone who might be a little chunky, you might want to do some inspection when they sit with you or you might have a surprise when you get back to your room. The waitress outfits are very sexy most of the time there, but can be deceiving to the eyes in reality. But then again the lighting in a lot of the bars can be deceiving period. My advice is to find someone you like whether they are door girl, waitress, or dancer and hopefully it turns out well. Sometimes the personality might change when outside the bar.

Key Master
02-13-07, 00:29
One of the difficult parts about chat boards is that if you don't write a book for each post and cover every possible alternative and nuance, someone else will. All your points are well taken. I did get a little carried away with the "always" thing. What I really meant was that they should always be considered at every place a guy goes. To say "never" is a big mistake.

I can accept your point of view. In a few of your posts, your tone and absolutes made it feel like there was only one way to do things. You never know when you are there what might happen and where you might find fun or meet people. I never thought I would go to Trax but I did with a couple of women and had fun. I also think everyone has their own opinion on what's fun or not. I may not take my bar fine barhopping but I think taking them to eat sometimes with a friend is a pleasure to them and other things. I also think how you treat them overall is important. For me, when I take a bar fine back it's not usually just straight sex. There's usually a lot of talking, listen to music, watch tv or play on the computer.

There's fun outside the bars also, like taking some of the hotel women to eat or a club. The women you meet working regular jobs love to be taken out also. It may not be a sex thing, but it's no big thing. It's nice taking them out and seeing them have fun.

X Man
02-13-07, 06:29
Dang, you let the cat out of the bag. I try to share here on the board, but that little bit of info was something I was going to keep to myself. In AC there is sex around you all the time. I think it seeps into the pores of the regular girls. Some of them are ready to do some tasting themselves.....bless their hearts.

X




There's fun outside the bars also, like taking some of the hotel women to eat or a club. The women you meet working regular jobs love to be taken out also. It may not be a sex thing, but it's no big thing. It's nice taking them out and seeing them have fun.

Key Master
02-13-07, 08:11
Dang, you let the cat out of the bag. I try to share here on the board, but that little bit of info was something I was going to keep to myself. In AC there is sex around you all the time. I think it seeps into the pores of the regular girls. Some of them are ready to do some tasting themselves.....bless their hearts.

X

Sorry X. I can't edit my post now that you quoted me. It's all good. There's way too many women out there even with the cat running a muck.

Yella Man
02-13-07, 12:02
Sure enough Peak! Some guys forget to have fun in AC. I see it over and over again every time I'm there. Guys sitting in the clubs like corpse. The girls love it when I walk into a club, because I'm bound to get on the stage and dance with them and generally let my hair down. I usually travel there with my good friend who shares the same philosphy I have...that is..tear the club up (not in a literal sense) and have so much fun the girls throw their cell numbers at ya or request yours! They know a fun guy when they see one!

Always on the Quest

Yella Man



I am presenting some alternatives and reasons why to bar hop with a BF when someone says, "I don't get it". I do get it! As for the respect thing? Absolutely. But you need to read the girl first. You can tell if they like to go out or if they just want the quick sex, get paid and get it over with. It is only fun to take out the party girls. Hey, I've taken out one and come back with two more free (their friends) several times. Is a girl going to give you her friends if she is having a bad time and doesn't feel respected? Doubtful. Yes, of course the other girls expect a little something, but it has been trivial. My observation in AC is that the vast majority of guys do not let their hair down so to speak and forget to have a good time. I am not taking about wild antics. I rarely see anyone even smile. Maybe one in five guys in a bar appears to be having a decent time. My post is not for the old hands who have a way they like to do things. It is for the lurkers, newbies, and other people who haven't beeen to AC yet or the infrequent visitor who wants to up his game next time around.

Pute Nut
02-13-07, 16:13
Sure enough Peak! Some guys forget to have fun in AC. I see it over and over again every time I'm there. Guys sitting in the clubs like corpse. The girls love it when I walk into a club, because I'm bound to get on the stage and dance with them and generally let my hair down. I usually travel there with my good friend who shares the same philosphy I have...that is..tear the club up (not in a literal sense) and have so much fun the girls throw their cell numbers at ya or request yours! They know a fun guy when they see one!

Always on the Quest

Yella Man

While I respect your positive approach I think it's also fair to note that it's not always so easy to muster a smile when the stage is full of "jollibee dancers" and fuglies looking bored and trying NOT to dance to the music they obviously don't like or relate to. The scene in AC is VERY much hit & miss...

Yella Man
02-13-07, 16:31
I'm an equal opportunity kinda guy. Hell, they may be fat and ugly, but dammit they have pussy's to....I'm there to have fun! Doesn't mean I have to BF their ugly asses! Anyway, the best sex I had in AC was given by a 4...not a 10....and she was damn near a freebie (trike money)! :)

Always on the Quest

Yella Man



While I respect your positive approach I think it's also fair to note that it's not always so easy to muster a smile when the stage is full of "jollibee dancers" and fuglies looking bored and trying NOT to dance to the music they obviously don't like or relate to. The scene in AC is VERY much hit & miss...

Buko Max
02-14-07, 05:00
I'm an equal opportunity kinda guy. Hell, they may be fat and ugly, but dammit they have pussy's to....
More cushion for the pushin' I always say! Yes the best performers I've had were a few notches down in the looks department but they just try harder to please!

I'm there to have fun!
You are the party you create. It's much more fun to interact with the girls but if you just want to kick back and observe, thats okay too. Back in December, I hooked up with Ekspat, Towelboy and a couple of wild Aussies and we ruled the bar! My m.o. is to dirty dance with several girls, even the waitresses to see how they move because that usually translates into a good performance in the bedroom.

BTW, if anyone is going to be in town at the end of the month, PM me. We can get a few guys together and rule once again!

SuperMuffDiver69
02-14-07, 06:49
I'll be in AC for a couple of weeks from 05 March on. Will be staying at the Orchid Inn. Have been to AC 3 time before just for a few days at a time, so I'm looking forward to my "extended" stay. Have had lots of fun at the Classroom with "Officer Naughty" serving Tequila shots, nice little bar! Have enjoyed many others as well, and am going to try to spend more time down Perimeter way as well. Still, would like to hook up with someone with more experience in AC to learn more about the ways of the world there. If you're going to be in town and are interested, let me know. I can't wait to get there!

Pute Nut
02-14-07, 08:05
It's much more fun to interact with the girls but if you just want to kick back and observe, thats okay too.

Exactly..but I could do w/o "observing" fat dancers be it filipinas or drunk aussies lol..although I must admit that seeing the fat dwarfette dancing has some entertainment value ;) (she's currently employed in one of the perimeter bars)

Yella Man
02-14-07, 08:41
I'll be in the Philippines on 1 March but won't be in Angeles until 13 March. PM me if your still around and we'll burn some bars down...figuratively speaking of course.

Always on the Quest

Yella Man



BTW, if anyone is going to be in town at the end of the month, PM me. We can get a few guys together and rule once again!

Napalm
02-14-07, 10:42
Exactly..but I could do w/o "observing" fat dancers

SNIP

There's a fat one at Dollhouse. I was kind of taken aback at first until I remembered that fat girls need love too. Just not from me ;)

Pute Nut
02-14-07, 11:17
There's a fat one at Dollhouse. I was kind of taken aback at first until I remembered that fat girls need love too. Just not from me ;)

Hehe..yeah to each their own..

BUT I might just temporarily white-list DH to check that out :)

Concarne
02-14-07, 22:59
I read on some threads that BJ row is on its way out (Santos)?

As I am planning my cherry trip to AC that would be a most devasting development. Can anyone confirm? If so, what other BJ dedicated areas are there in town?

Thanks!

Bill Buxton
02-15-07, 01:25
I read on some threads that BJ row is on its way out (Santos)?

As I am planning my cherry trip to AC that would be a most devasting development. Can anyone confirm? If so, what other BJ dedicated areas are there in town?

Thanks!Why would you get street gals here? There are big problems that are following street trash here.The bars and malls and eveywhere is full of willing pussy why do the street thing for pay?

Take my advise stay away, way away from that type.Most are seasoned hustlers working for some lowlife Philippino and also the police! Go for a better class not profesional street p/u girls off Santos St. If 24 dollars is over your budget then stay home it's not worth the effort to get jammed up here.

B.B.

Bill Buxton
02-15-07, 01:44
Had a great night with two sisters from a local fields ave bar. The original gal I paid in the bar was nice and then we talked to the 18 year old sister at the mall. She wanted to come along for the ride and why not. At the hotel the bar gal was in the shower and the younger sister was chatting me up. She was telling me about going to school and never making love with a foreign guy. I said "why not"She said she had never found one she thought she wanted to go with. Her sister finished in the bathroom and came out in a towel and a smile. The younger one looked on as we kissed and touched. After a fue minutes the younger one sitting in a chair was rubbing herself. She had her eyes closed and was working up a lather on her own.

I then pointed it out to the one with me on the bed and she smiled and said you want to try her? Why the fuck not I said. The younger sister was hands down wetter, horneyier, and better than the bar fly hands down in every way! . Wow, what a deal sisters, and one was the best I have had bieng here for 7 months. You never know what they are thinking or how they will react until you try. All in all, be. Fine 1000-p. Dinner 1600-p breakfast400-P and 1000-p to each of the willing sisters. 10 hrs in bed, 3 pops, 2 beautiful sisters, total time 13 hrs all for a c-note. Try that shit at home boys!

Unreal, just when you think it's time to go you get this.

BB

Krum Lov
02-15-07, 08:17
billy buxton, each to his own. i've also never been to angeles but hope to go soon. and i'm also intrigued by blow job row. it's more my thing than going into some smokey, noisey bar and having to buy drinks for girls then pay 1000 P+ when i can get a porn-style BJ for half that price from BJ Row. So any info on Santos and if BJ bars are still there would be greatly appreciated.

Yella Man
02-15-07, 10:28
Peso 500 BJ's are easy to find in Angeles. Just look for the small hole-in-the-wall type clubs that line fields Ave. These bars are non-descript little joints that sometimes offer such service. Just walk into them and buy a beer to feel the place out. A lot of times the girls will ask you if you want the service. The key is you gotta feel the girls out by being friendly and playful, not sit there like a bump on a log. Illusions club up on Perimeter also has a short time room that girls will gladly give peso 500 BJ's in. I posted about this club in 2005 or early 2006. Five of the girls surrounded me and took turns giving me sample BJ's to see which one I would select for the ST room. They even let me take picture, which I posted, of them doing it. So don't worry if the Santos street BJ bars such as the Black Pearl are on the way out. There are plenty of other options available in AC.

Always on the Quest

Yella Man


I read on some threads that BJ row is on its way out (Santos)?

As I am planning my cherry trip to AC that would be a most devasting development. Can anyone confirm? If so, what other BJ dedicated areas are there in town?

Thanks!

Krum Lov
02-15-07, 15:07
Cheers Yella man, appreciated. Good to know that Santos St isn't only place to find BJs. Just wondering tho, what is your recommendation if Santos St still operating? Is Black Pearl the best place? And for 500 P, it's 2 hrs, is that right? Ao you can take girl back to room and have numerous BJ shots in 2 hrs? Also, do all hole-in wall BJ girsl allow CIM?

Thanks

Yella Man
02-15-07, 16:53
Hats off to ya if you can last two hours during a blow job session. Most of the girls their you won't want to BF and take back to the room. However, they will go to your hotel to give the peso 500 BJ if you want. I usually used there rooms instead. My normal day goes like this in Angeles: Pick up a BF or freebie (depending on who texts me that evening) and play with her all night thru the next morning. Feed her breakfast in the morning and then say goodbye. Head to the Black Pearl on Santos to see Lay Lay or Lia (sometimes both at once) for a peso 500 BJCIM, and a few San Miguel Lights. Back to the Hotel for a nap. Then start the process over again that evening. Illusians club on Perimeter is a must try. I have tons of fun everytime I'm in that club. Just loose your inhibitions and the girls will get pretty wild there. There's nothing else to do in Angeles but eat, drink, and fuck! Have a good trip!

Always on the Quest

Yella Man


cheers yella man, appreciated. good to know that santos st isn't only place to find BJs. just wondering tho, what is your recommendation if santos st still operating? is black pearl the best place? and for 500 P, it's 2 hrs, is that right? so you can take girl back to room and have numerous BJ shots in 2 hrs? also, do all hole-in wall BJ girsl allow CIM? thnx.

Bill Buxton
02-15-07, 18:01
Billy Buxton, each to his own. I've also never been to angeles but hope to go soon. and i'm also intrigued by blow job row. it's more my thing than going into some smokey, noisey bar and having to buy drinks for girls then pay 1000 P+ when I can get a porn-style BJ for half that price from BJ Row. So any info on Santos and if BJ bars are still there would be greatly appreciated.Go to the jolly frogg,or others in the area you can buy 2-3 one hundred peso drinks sit in the corner and get all the head you want. They will do whatever you want in the upperend bars for cheep. Many bars also have shorttime rooms for on the spot service. Many bars of fields have great service available for less than the big bars on Fields ave.

Buko Max
02-15-07, 20:04
Go to the jolly frogg,or others in the area you can buy 2-3 one hundred peso drinks sit in the corner and get all the head you want.
Hey BB,

Where is the JF? Is that on Friendship Hwy.?

Congrats on the sister act, probably every man's fantasy!

Hesekiels
02-15-07, 21:44
Had a great night with two sisters from a local fields ave bar ... I then pointed it out to the one with me on the bed and she smiled and said you want to try her? Why the fuck not I said. The younger sister was hands down wetter, horneyier, and better than the bar fly hands down in every way! . Wow, what a deal sisters, and one was the best I have had bieng here for 7 months. ... All in all, be. Fine 1000-p. Dinner 1600-p breakfast400-P and 1000-p to each of the willing sisters. 10 hrs in bed, 3 pops, 2 beautiful sisters, total time 13 hrs all for a c-note. ..Try that shit at home boys!


BB

BB:

Congrats to such a perfect session! Yeah, folks, that's AC live - and for that I truly love this place!

Cheers - Hesekiels

Pute Nut
02-15-07, 23:26
Where is the JF? Is that on Friendship Hwy.?

Yes, almost last stop before Anunas Bridge...

Bill Buxton
02-16-07, 00:10
Hey BB,

Where is the JF? Is that on Friendship Hwy.?No IT'S ON PERIMETER Road! Take a trike up past the clarkton hotel to the upper gate to enter the base.Go to the left and 1/2 kl down on the right is jollyfrogg and another bar side by side.They have shorttime rooms and also 2 drinks in the corner for a bj.Classey place ha?lets just say, it works!

Girl quality its ok attatude quality is better than fields hands down.

W.B.

Bill Buxton
02-16-07, 00:32
BB:

Congrats to such a perfect session! Yeah, folks, that's AC live - and for that I truly love this place!

Cheers - HesekielsI found out last night that the sisters have a younger one comming of age next week.I think with a little finese I can have that one also.The times are changing for the better.

SuperMuffDiver69
02-16-07, 02:35
Hey guys,

I want to have a local phone when I get to AC.

1. Should I buy an "unlocked" phone in the US or get one in PI ?
2. Can I buy a SIM Card in PI ?
3. Which service is the best deal and what should I expect to pay for a SIM Card or a "top up" card ?

Appreciate any info you can provide... I'll be there in a couple weeks.

Buko Max
02-16-07, 07:33
One of my chatmates worked there breifly as a waitress and I was wondering what the place was about. Never made it there because she said it never had many customers. Fortunately, I did have time to check her out in more ways than one!

Yella Man
02-16-07, 08:12
Supermuff diver,

Most of the info you seek is already posted in the forum. Do a quick search and you'll have all the answers you need. In other words...RTFF! If you can't locate the info PM me.

Always on the Quest

Yella Man


Hey guys,

I want to have a local phone when I get to AC.

1. Should I buy an "unlocked" phone in the US or get one in PI ?
2. Can I buy a SIM Card in PI ?
3. Which service is the best deal and what should I expect to pay for a SIM Card or a "top up" card ?

Appreciate any info you can provide... I'll be there in a couple weeks.

Pute Nut
02-16-07, 09:06
No IT'S ON PERIMETER Road! Take a trike up past the clarkton hotel to the upper gate to enter the base.Go to the left and 1/2 kl down on the right is jollyfrogg and another bar side by side.They have shorttime rooms and also 2 drinks in the corner for a bj.Classey place ha?lets just say, it works!

Girl quality its ok attatude quality is better than fields hands down.

W.B.

Yet another AC expert lol..

The road leading from the (Friendship) gate to the Anucan bridge IS the Friendship Hwy. Actually the long name is Fil-Am Friendship Highway for you nitpickers out there ;)

Pute Nut
02-16-07, 09:26
Hey guys,

I want to have a local phone when I get to AC.

1. Should I buy an "unlocked" phone in the US or get one in PI ?
2. Can I buy a SIM Card in PI ?
3. Which service is the best deal and what should I expect to pay for a SIM Card or a "top up" card ?

Appreciate any info you can provide... I'll be there in a couple weeks.

1. Buy a cheap one here in AC, (make sure it's "openline") for max 2000 pesos you will get a nice new Nokia including SIM, charger and warranty. 2nd hand is even cheaper, of course, but the warranty is short or non-existant and the phone is probably more or less pinoyed (ie extra colored backlights, hello kitty covers, keys worn by excessive texting, "fixed" a gazillion times etc)

2. Yes, but usually one incuded with the phone, else get a Smart SIM, 100 pesos.

3. Most providers have various schemes to make your load go away, even Smart, but less so than Globe IMO. You can top up in various ways, electronic load (30 / 60 / 115 Pesos) in any roadside cellphone shop etc, or top up cards for bigger loads (300 + 500 Pesos) info leaflet included with SIM usually.

If you're still clueless when you get here - hit me up with a PM and I'll take you shopping and even help you load your phone. Heck, if there are more newbies out there who want to cut to the chase and not spend time loading phones I can even arrange to have new Nokias with SIM + load delivered to your hotel at the night of arrival. This way you will also know your PI cellphone # prior to arrival...just PM if interested..

Peraxx
02-16-07, 13:28
Gentlemans,

Will there anybody be in AC tomorrow (17/02), interested in grabbign a bite for dinner somewhere? I can monger by myself, but the help of an old AC hand would be appreciated in finding a decent restaurant.

Cheers

Hesekiels
02-16-07, 23:42
I found out last night that the sisters have a younger one comming of age next week.I think with a little finese I can have that one also.The times are changing for the better.

Wow, BB:

Great prospects! I'll keep my fingers crossed! Don't forget to tell us part 2 of your story, ok!? :)

Cheers - Hesekiels

SuperMuffDiver69
02-17-07, 04:20
Supermuff diver,

Most of the info you seek is already posted in the forum. Do a quick search and you'll have all the answers you need. In other words: RTFF! If you can't locate the info PM me.

Always on the Quest

Yella Man

Yo Yella Man,

Thanks for the info, I will take your advice for future questions I might have before posting. You'll have to bear with me, as I am a newbee at this BB Forum stuff and am on a learning curve here.

SMD69

SuperMuffDiver69
02-17-07, 04:29
1. Buy a cheap one here in AC, (make sure it's "openline") for max 2000 pesos you will get a nice new Nokia including SIM, charger and warranty. 2nd hand is even cheaper, of course, but the warranty is short or non-existant and the phone is probably more or less pinoyed (ie extra colored backlights, hello kitty covers, keys worn by excessive texting, "fixed" a gazillion times etc)

2. Yes, but usually one incuded with the phone, else get a Smart SIM, 100 pesos.

3. Most providers have various schemes to make your load go away, even Smart, but less so than Globe IMO. You can top up in various ways, electronic load (30 / 60 / 115 Pesos) in any roadside cellphone shop etc, or top up cards for bigger loads (300 + 500 Pesos) info leaflet included with SIM usually.

If you're still clueless when you get here - hit me up with a PM and I'll take you shopping and even help you load your phone. Heck, if there are more newbies out there who want to cut to the chase and not spend time loading phones I can even arrange to have new Nokias with SIM + load delivered to your hotel at the night of arrival. This way you will also know your PI cellphone # prior to arrival...just PM if interested..Pute Nut,

Thanks for the excellent advice.

Your offer sounds like a great deal, I'll be in touch via PM.

Thanks again!

SMD69

SuperMuffDiver69
02-17-07, 04:42
Supermuff diver,

Most of the info you seek is already posted in the forum. Do a quick search and you'll have all the answers you need. In other words...RTFF! If you can't locate the info PM me.

Always on the Quest

Yella ManYo Yella Man!

Thanks for the info, I will take your advice (RTFF!) before posting future questions. I'm a newbee to this BB stuff, so you'll have to cut me a "little" slack while I go through my "learning curve".

~SMD69~

Columpuss
02-17-07, 05:08
Nifty on the perimeter area also has a short time room. On my first visit I thought i was walking onto a porn set. I sat down next to 1 guy but didn't notice anything at first. When the waitress arrived with the drink, I turned my head to say hi to the guy. To my amazement, his girl was doing HJ with his little boy out in the open. The whole time sitting there, I was praying to god not to let the sprinkler activate.

I took one dancer up to the room. once inside, my buddy texted me. As I was standing up next to the bed texting back, the girl proceeded to take out my hose and gave me a BBBJ. Another girl walked into to the room to get some stuff, peaked at my johnson and said hello. The whole experience reminded me of a Ron Jeremy flick back in the 80s. Only in AC!

AsiaTraveler2
02-17-07, 22:06
I have seen numerous generalizations made, and it's always interesting to see that everyone always thinks they have the right answer. The reason for this? They do have the right answer .. for them! Every guy is different and every girl is different. Different strokes for different folks!

Bar hopping with a bar girl can be fun, but it's not always a sign of respect or even is necessary or expected by the girl. Not all woman are the same! Some like the "respect" angle, others could give a shit. Some already partied the night before and want a quiet night and would just like to have a bite to eat and go back to the room. Some genuinely like you so much, it is truly up to you! Some want to see their friends or be seen. Here's a novel idea .. ask the girl. If she says up to you, then make the best decision you can.

The safety issue is always a concern. I would say the general rules apply. The more people traffic and lighting there is, the safer it will probably be. You are in a third world country and the money in your pocket is probably the equivalent of $10,000 or more in relative buying power for the locals. Think accordingly. I have never experienced or talked to someone, who has run into problems in the lighted areas of Fields. Any issues tend to pop up outside the main active drag.

The waitresses in the bars and girls out front are available. They are not, in my experience, any better or worse. The waitresses are doing that job, because that is their preference. When I have asked, they prefer not to be on stage due to modesty issues. True or not, it seems like a reasonable explanation. The girls out front are there because they are either attractive, outgoing or both. That has nothing to do with how they will click with you and absolutely nothing to do with how good they are in bed. Often times, the quiet ones have more to say that will interest you, instead of just talking your ears off with nonsense.

The wall flower customer vs. the lamp shade on head customer is again, just a reflection of how those people decide to have fun. The guy who is quiet and is observing the action often is having just as much fun as the fool (And I say that in humour only) on the stage. They may be there just for the sex. Is that so bad? You really can party anywhere on the planet, so it's not like you can't make up for that back home. The cheap sex, is what A/C has that not many other places do. Also keep in mind that guys that dance on stage or are the center of attention end up in photos on the internet. Not everyone can afford for that to happen. In those cases, low key is the way to go.

Ok .. I'm off my soap box now!

AT2

Aussiec
02-18-07, 02:05
Thanks to everyone who contributes to this forum I had a trip of a life time to angeles. I got back yesterday to the states and the depression has set in. I went to ac on the 7th and got there at 2am and the place was jumping! On advice from a aussie I ran into I hit champayne and ran back to hotel with 2 ladies. Was not disapointed for they spent nights with me the whole time there and day time hit the short time places, including a short time with some ladies at dollhouse and illusions. Wow wow wow, valentines day was the best. Not many guys but many girls begging to be my valentine. I felt like a kid in a candy store. Simply wow. Thank you and will return to AC in May!

Peraxx
02-18-07, 05:33
Gentlemans,

Will there anybody be in AC tomorrow (17/02), interested in grabbign a bite for dinner somewhere? I can monger by myself, but the help of an old AC hand would be appreciated in finding a decent restaurant.

CheersAnyway, the Italian restaurant on top of Club Lancelot is not bad. They're running a french promotion of sort, at lest what i tried was nto bad at all.

I also went to Salvatore's, not too good.

Saludos.

Yella Man
02-18-07, 07:07
Try the Bourbon Street Bistro down the street from and on the same side as KoKomo's. I was satisfied with every dish I had there. Wine selections not bad either.

Always on the Quest

Yella Man


Anyway, the Italian restaurant on top of Club Lancelot is not bad. They're running a french promotion of sort, at lest what i tried was nto bad at all.

I also went to Salvatore's, not too good.

Saludos.

Yella Man
02-18-07, 07:29
Always a pleasure to help!

Always on the Quest

Yella Man


Yo Yella Man!

Thanks for the info, I will take your advice (RTFF!) before posting future questions. I'm a newbee to this BB stuff, so you'll have to cut me a "little" slack while I go through my "learning curve".

~SMD69~

Too Jaded
02-18-07, 07:30
I have seen numerous generalizations made, and it's always interesting to see that everyone always thinks they have the right answer. The reason for this? They do have the right answer .. for them! Every guy is different and every girl is different. Different strokes for different folks!

Man, I have been wanting to say this for a couple months now, so thank you for putting it so well. Generalization and assumption is human nature, but it can be a bit irritating when you read someone who 'has all the answers' nitpick the style of others. I have always had slightly different tastes and needs than most, and through this board have always acquired enough background and information to seek out what *I* am seeking. In return I post my experiences as an information resource merely to be considered by the brothers on the board, not for formal critique.

I have been very successful by my tastes in my travels, but I know what I like is not for everybody. I tend to go a bit slower in my quest for better hotels and better ladies to create the relaxing fantasy encounters I do not get back in the states. Others meanwhile are looking for quantity or budgetary success, while more still are on a photo hunt. Whatever their reasons, I applaud them when they are successful and share their experiences; I do not post to the ISG for accolades or to 'put my dick on the table' to see who's is bigger. We post here to keep each other informed; the ladies and the house has it's game together, so we need to have ours as well if we are going to be able to confidently find what we're looking for while avoiding the traps.

Well said, and thank you for saying it. Now, I am off to create that perfect fantasy... :)

2J

Pute Nut
02-18-07, 08:12
Pute Nut,

Thanks for the excellent advice.

Your offer sounds like a great deal, I'll be in touch via PM.

Thanks again!

SMD69

You're very welcome, SuperMuffDiver69, just let me know a few days before your arrival and I will have it ready for you. I presume you'd prefer a cell # with 69 somewhere in it if available, right? I will see what I can do, but chances are that here in AC they're all taken :D

Pute Nut
02-18-07, 08:36
The wall flower customer vs. the lamp shade on head customer is again, just a reflection of how those people decide to have fun. The guy who is quiet and is observing the action often is having just as much fun as the fool (And I say that in humour only) on the stage.

Very well put. The problem is that the whole scene is so unprofessional and poorly managed in AC that the "wall flower customers" needs are very often overlooked. Unfortunately very few mamasans run a tight ship and tamad jollibees are, unfortunately, very common in AC. Case in point..I couldn't help laughing last night passing one of the perimeter bars - the door girls were checking out the latest Avon catalog so naturally all potential customers passing by were duly ignored :D

On a positive note, I checked out the Hotel Tiger last night and was pleasantly surprised. This hotel on 126 Narciso St is w/in walking distance from Fields and looks like a good deal for the budget-minded traveller.

Rooms are available @ 1000 P per night and up with weekly/monthly discounts of 10 and 15% respectively. If you need a good, clean hotel with all the basics and then some more thrown in for good measure, this is it. The hotel is really wired (and -less): inhotel and inroom wifi..PLUS...LAN connections...PLUS..a complete Internet connected PC set on each floor..all of this at no extra cost for guests. Book early, they have been more or less sold out since opening. No surprise.

SuperMuffDiver69
02-18-07, 22:59
You're very welcome, SuperMuffDiver69, just let me know a few days before your arrival and I will have it ready for you. I presume you'd prefer a cell # with 69 somewhere in it if available, right? I will see what I can do, but chances are that here in AC they're all taken :DYeah, Pute Nut, can you get me 696-6969. Just kidding!

I'll give you a holler before I leave.

Thanks!

SMD69

Too Jaded
02-19-07, 05:40
Folks,

I am a very relaxed and GFE sort of guy, I like to talk with my girl and create a nice relaxed atmosphere to aid in the humping that will come later. But even a guy like me occasionally runs into a blabber that will not just shut the hell up, forcing me to be an asshole to get them to leave. Usually, they are trying to get out the door as fast as possible, but not this one.

Warning: This girl told me that she is checked weekly by a doctor, but it is a physical exam only, NO BLOOD IS DRAWN FOR TESTING. Thus I can only assume these girls ARE NOT BEING TESTED FOR HIV! If anyone has evidence to the contrary, I would love to be proven wrong. So all the more reason to be as careful as possible.

I started bar bouncing at around 11PM or so, stopping in a few clubs to make my way down Fields. I did not make it far, as I eventually went into Angelwitch and started flirting with some of the girls there. There were some real cuties, but the one that stood out was a 6-7 in looks but absolutely naughty in her behavior and with wonderfully natural breasts. Still, I tried to LD another model looking girl, yet it was Roselle in her persistence that one me over. Personality usually counts with me.

So I bought her an LD, which she drank slowly. Another point in her favor, and she let me fondle her and smiled and winked, et cetera. Part of me wanted to move on, but I figured it was my first night and there would be time for that. Of course, more stunners came and went offstage, and I knew I should hold out, but I ended up barfining Roselle for 1300P. I made sure beforehand that she was willing to perform and was not menstruating.

We went to La Pasha afterwards for a quick drink and to ogle girls together, then back to my room at the ABC Hotel. The room is very plush, and she clearly was impressed by the upscale amenities. She wanted to watch some porno, which is provided on two channels of the hotel's cable. This got her in the mood, so we went and showered, then back to the bed. This is where is was a let down, she did not do anything wrong, but the BBBJ was only mediocre, and this was after I spent 20 minutes chowing her lunchbox to excellent result (for her).

Then we went to the sexual positions where she was responsive but always on bottom, at some point I like to take a break and let the woman be on top so I can concentrate on my enjoyment. She didn't even try to get on top, even with my requests. So I started to lose steam and my erection. She gave me HJ to completion, which was not very good.

I then also noticed blood on the sheets. I figured maybe I hurt her a little when I hit her cervix. Whatever, I was not in the mood for her to stay, so I asked her to leave. She resisted, saying she really liked me and wanted to stay with me for LT. I got a little annoyed, but them I remembered that these girls do live in squalor surrounded by noisy girls, with no aircon, and screaming babies, so my conscience bit me and I relented. She then clung on to me all night like a facehugger from the movie Aliens, but I did not mind to much.

In the morning, the bed looked like a murder seen; turns out she IS menstruating, and it was the thickest I have seen in a long time. She was watching porno and playing with herself, and she wanted me to fuck her, but there was no way that was going to happen with the mess down there, so I accepted a somewhat better BBBJ (mostly to shut her up) and gave her a surprise CIM ending ("I didn't know I was cumming, just like you did not know you were menstruating, baby"). Then she would not shut the fuck up. I will not bore you with the details, but she kept saying the same shit over and over in an attempt to stay, win me over as a boyfriend, charge her cellphone, whatever.

I then got firm and told her she needed to leave. All of her delay tactics were met with my telling her I knew all the tricks. It was a relief when she left. This is very atypical of me, as I am usually very sociable with my girls, but this one was just low class and did not excite my cerebral erogenous zones. She is clearly a very horny 22 y/o who likes sex, but she has a lot to learn.

So, I should have done a few things different:

1) I should have moved on from bar to bar for awhile to survey the scene; if the girl you like is not there if/when you return there are plenty of others to fall back to.

2) I should have started by telling the girl that I was interested in ST, and maybe LT if things go well. That way I could have booted this chick a little easier than by cutting LT so short.

3) Unless she is a smiling stunner, I should have taken a little time before buying her LD to give myself a chance to check out the other talent.

The above could be wrong as well, this was my first time going out in AC. I will hopefully do better tonight! :)

2J

Pute Nut
02-19-07, 07:34
Warning: This girl told me that she is checked weekly by a doctor, but it is a physical exam only, NO BLOOD IS DRAWN FOR TESTING. Thus I can only assume these girls ARE NOT BEING TESTED FOR HIV! If anyone has evidence to the contrary, I would love to be proven wrong. So all the more reason to be as careful as possible.


Weekly checkup consists of an assembly-line visual inspection and a smear. This will (obviously) only detect some of the potential problems, but hey, it's better than nothing. HIV tests are few and far between. This is a third world country. Caveat emptor.

Pute Nut
02-19-07, 08:01
Thank you for the info. Do they have a website you can book from as I could not find it if they do?. If anyone out there has there contact information or the cost for a monthly rental please post it for us will you? Your kindness in doing so will be greatly appreciated by me and I am sure many others.

Hello Flying Sky High,

Well, the monthly should run P 25.500 and up according to their discount scheme. (If you plan on staying in AC for several months there are other options available in AC that may provide even better value IMO, though)

Ironically their card doesn't list neither e-mail nor website address. I'll try to extract some more info next time I'm in the area, possibly already tonight

Also I'll be happy to PM you their contact nos asa your PM box is up.

Cheers, PN

Too Jaded
02-19-07, 09:21
Weekly checkup consists of an assembly-line visual inspection and a smear. This will (obviously) only detect some of the potential problems, but hey, it's better than nothing. HIV tests are few and far between. This is a third world country. Caveat emptor.

Thanks for the clarification. I actually expected that with the prevalence of do-it-yourself blood tests now that there was some type of more complete testing in such a popular destination as AC, especially given the focus on ASEAN business exchange and tourism. What really concerned me was not the fact that they do not do a blood test, but that this girl (and presumably others) thought what weekly checks they do recieve checked for everything. She was honestly perplexed when I asked her casually about the blood test, she said "No, doctor push on my abdomen, do smear, check everything...". Meanwhile this girl like many would have provided BBFS without question.

Education is key to prevention, so I guess it is ultimately up to us, as everywhere, to keep ourselves safe by being smart and minimizing risk for ourselves, the working girls, and any ladies we might have waiting for us back home. We're all human, and I for one have succumbed to alcohol and temptation in the past; I am pretty sure we all have and some of us will continue to do so. Just be advised and be careful.

Sorry to soapbox, but I just thought this was relevant information to pass on to others like me who are new to the AC scene.

2J

Silly Fool
02-19-07, 13:05
Thanks for the clarification. I actually expected that with the prevalence of do-it-yourself blood tests now that there was some type of more complete testing in such a popular destination as AC, especially given the focus on ASEAN business exchange and tourism. What really concerned me was not the fact that they do not do a blood test, but that this girl (and presumably others) thought what weekly checks they do recieve checked for everything. She was honestly perplexed when I asked her casually about the blood test, she said "No, doctor push on my abdomen, do smear, check everything...". Meanwhile this girl like many would have provided BBFS without question.

Education is key to prevention, so I guess it is ultimately up to us, as everywhere, to keep ourselves safe by being smart and minimizing risk for ourselves, the working girls, and any ladies we might have waiting for us back home. We're all human, and I for one have succumbed to alcohol and temptation in the past; I am pretty sure we all have and some of us will continue to do so. Just be advised and be careful.

Sorry to soapbox, but I just thought this was relevant information to pass on to others like me who are new to the AC scene.

2JIts our fucking choice and dont let their snotty attitude guilt you into riding bareback. Checkup my arse. Dont like condom, dont like condom-blah, blah, I have weekly checkup. Yeah , right - just as I suspected.

SexWithSmile
02-19-07, 16:28
Even when they do HIV test in the Philippines, they are totally unpredictable. True story which happened personally to me (I am not inventing anything here to look interesting):

- 2 years ago: too much drink in AC with a tiger girl, boom boom several times without condom;

- GFE with tiger girl, I ask her to make a test to local hospital; results not ready;

- I leave Philippines; 2 weeks pass (Christmas); e-mail from Tiger: please call me this is very urgent. That's it, she has it.

- I do my test 2 weeks later in Belgium (that's 5 weeks after the act): negative.

- One year later, I do another test in a good hospital of the Philippines; wait 1 week for the results (as part of a full check-up);

- Results arrive: negative. At exactly the same second, the girl chat with me in Yahoo (what she had not done for a year - talk about a coincidence). I ask her to re-do the test. She tells me: "I know, I did it again and they say that I don't have it".

- Last test 2 months ago: negative.

Well fellow mongers, that was a kind of stressing experience, and you'll understand that I cherish my condoms now.

2Jaded,

I already had 3 TIMES that experience with girl on period. Philippino girls are really far behind Thai girls for sex education - they have their advantages (speak English), but they can be a pain on that level... My patience has faded now, and I guess they still do it because we have good-hearted - need to tell them in advance: "if blood, you are out of room and no money".

Enjoy AC, and we wait for your next adventures on clean sheets.

Pute Nut
02-19-07, 18:56
Thank you for the info. Do they have a website you can book from as I could not find it if they do?

Flying Sky High,

Visited Tiger Hotel again this evening and they told me they are indeed happy to take bookings via mail or yahoo messenger, please see their website for additional info:

http://www.tigerhotel.co.nr/

or

http://sstiger.awardspace.com/

Bill Buxton
02-19-07, 23:10
I was talking with members of management at the Blue Nile, Neros, Bedrock, bars and they say the new electronic gaming machines might not be happining. They made the investment and got the equipment and now political pressure is saying we are not sure we will let this happen. I am sure that the local governing powers want to fleece mor cash out of the owners to operate.The thing is they have already paid a huge sum to get to the stage they are at now.

Some things never change,lies,promises,and smiling faces.Great ways to get your new friends in the mood before the last tear drop falls.

Staying on top,

B.B.

Dafacer
02-20-07, 03:20
PN, can you tell me more on the other options? Month2month rentals, etc? I'll be in for about 3-4 months in the fall. Thanks!


Hello Flying Sky High,

Well, the monthly should run P 25.500 and up according to their discount scheme. (If you plan on staying in AC for several months there are other options available in AC that may provide even better value IMO, though)

Pute Nut
02-20-07, 09:24
PN, can you tell me more on the other options? Month2month rentals, etc? I'll be in for about 3-4 months in the fall. Thanks!

Dafacer,

My point was basically that while Tiger sure is a very good deal @ P900 daily (weekly prepaid rate) their monthly rate just drops an additional 5 % and 25 k Pesos monthly still gives you quite a lot of purchasing power in the rental market in AC. A decent unfurnished apt can be rented for 3-4000 P/month and up (sans utilities) on a yearly basis, so the various long term serviced/furnished apts cannot deviate too much from that...

There are so many options available, including the hotels in Diamond Subd (requires a little legwork or a jeepney/trike ride), where you will probably be able to get good long term discounts.

Just let me know your ballpark budget and any specific requests such as walking distance, kitchenette etc and I'll try to suggest the best AC LT rental bang for your bucks.

Cheers PN

Soju Lizard
02-20-07, 10:52
Too Jaded ! There must be some veneer left ! I agree with you, and I am a guy that hates condoms. But lets be sensible. If not you stand a good chance of spreading something when you get back!One last note on the subject: most of the girls in AC are banging or have banged several local guys who never use condoms. Not using raincoats in AC (or anywhere for that matter) is rolling the dice with Joe Black. Not smart.

Too Jaded
02-20-07, 11:56
All,

The girl I reported on a little earlier apparently gave me a little something extra: a staph urinary infection. I started suffering the obvious symptoms yesterday after she left.

Managed to locate an excellent doctor via the web at http://www.angelescity.com/std_doctor.html, named Dr. de Guzman, out on Perimeter Road. I asked him how this could happen given how careful I was, and he said it was probably from unprotected oral sex. He even let me look in the microscope to see the little fuckers for myself. Fortunately it will be easy enough to clear up with a shot and some antibiotic pills, but what really pisses me off is that it puts me out of action for the rest of my trip, just when I got to AC.

For anyone finding themselves in a similar situation, I can recommend this doctor and his staff, who were professional and friendly. They are located just past Oasis on Perimeter in the COMMUNITY MEDICAL SERVICES building. No appointment is necessary.

It could have been worse, but I wish you all better luck than I had on this trip.

2J

Bill Buxton
02-20-07, 19:35
You can tell he is the right doctor he has only 1 hand. No pun intended he is ok and most foreigners use him. He cleared up abad case of pnumonia I had last sept no problem with him.

B.B.

Hesekiels
02-20-07, 19:46
All,

Managed to locate an excellent doctor via the web at http://www.angelescity.com/std_doctor.html, named Dr. de Guzman, out on Perimeter Road. Too Jaded,

Great hint as you are certainly not the first one who caught a souvenir from a cuty! :)

Get well soon!

Cheers,

Hesekiels

Bill Buxton
02-20-07, 19:49
The newest deal here now is getting arested for indeasent exposure. There was a british guy that had a gal come up behind him and pull his shorts down. The police were waiting in sight of the guy and then closed in for the scoop. They wanted 2500-p but after his friend and himself yak yaked to them payed 7500-p each. Yes each, the reason for the second guy was he wondered over to see whats up and ran his mouth and went with the cops also.

The gal was nowhere to be seen after she saw the guys off in the van. Another great situation here now going on here in AC.

B.B.

Too Jaded
02-21-07, 06:07
Too Jaded !

I don't think I am going to start recieving CBJsNeither am I, brother, even after this setback. I think if you have the girl brush her teeth and you make sure to take a good [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) afterwards to clean out the pipe you can minimize your troubles. I was just particularly susceptible I think given the fact that I have been mongering all across asia for the past six weeks straight, so between the travel stress, poor diet, lack of sleep, my previous prostate issues and this girl's dental hygiene it was bound to happen.

So the lesson learned for me is to shorten my extended mongering expeditions to no more than five weeks next time, and follow my own advice above. :D

2J

Columpuss
02-21-07, 07:07
Good info TJ

I think I got the same thing last visit. 2 days after the bj, my little boy started to feel tingly. A day later, it started to excrete milky stuff. I was scared but more scared to go to the doctor. I got myself some antibiotics and got rid of it. It took a bit longer than if I had used professional help.

I have received numerous BBBJ before but that time was unusually long and the girl might have scratched the tip of my little boy, hence the infection.
wish someone had posted this before so I wouldn't feel so scared.

Pute Nut
02-21-07, 11:23
neither am i, brother, even after this setback. i think if you have the girl brush her teeth and you make sure to take a good [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) afterwards to clean out the pipe you can minimize your troubles.

better yet make her use listerine (tm) and hold the toothbrushing, it can cause bleeding in (bad) gums. the [CodeWord134] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134) & wash (tm) suggestion is a very good one.

it's incredible that so many guys do these girls bb. regardless how cute, sweet and gfe they are - they do suck and and fuck guys (including some very skanky looking ones) from all over the world for money. hygiene does a good job weeding out the obvious sti and they do even ground girls permanently on occasion...but whatever these girls will bs about $$$ is what they care about. after coming back from a bf they will not discuss the possible exotic pleasure they had from being eaten out by the service-minded mongerer (a filipino will not lick a girl "down there"), the size of the dick or if the condom broke. actually, they don't care very much about that. their first topic of discussion will always be: how big was the tip?

they don't really know/care much what stis they get, more than to what extent it will be noticed and cause them a problem at checkup. and they certainly don't bother much about what they will pass on to the mongerers.

case in point. i was talking to a non-bargirl who is contemplating working in a bar. i mentioned a girl she knows about who was taken out of action permanently by hygiene and asked her "do you want to end up like her".

- yes, she has a nice cellphone now!

- wow then she can use it and call her folks back home and tell them about her sickness..

- yes, well at least she experienced the feeling of being rich!

Spam Hog
02-21-07, 13:52
The newest deal here now is getting arested for indeasent exposure. There was a british guy that had a gal come up behind him and pull his shorts down. The police were waiting in sight of the guy and then closed in for the scoop. They wanted 2500-p but after his friend and himself yak yaked to them payed 7500-p each. Yes each, the reason for the second guy was he wondered over to see whats up and ran his mouth and went with the cops also.

The gal was nowhere to be seen after she saw the guys off in the van. Another great situation here now going on here in AC.

B.B.


Running your mouth to the cops (even if you are right) is probably the worst thing you can do. THEY ALWAYS HOLD THE UPPER HAND. This sounds like a typical shake down where some guy, probably half drunk was targeted. In a situation like this consider a few things:

THESE GUYS MAY NOT BE REAL COPS, having badges, guns and uniforms means nothing, so much more so for "plainclothes"

Cops in the PI are notoriously corrupt,they can get away with anything, their word against yours and yours dont count. BUT...if you have DONE NOTHING WRONG, NEVER PAY ANYTHING, had this been me and they threatened me with arrest, I would have said, "Sure sir, I will go with you to the station. I have no choice, since that girl also picked my pocket when she pulled down my pants and took P1000 I had, I'm sorry I cannot settle with you here. I will probably ask the Sergeant to have her arrested." This said politely and respectfully. If I was close to a bar, I would also claim I was headed inside, loud enough for the door man or anybody hanging around outside to hear, good chance the person might step in and intervene, THESE PEOPLE HAVE A LOT OF WEIGHT WITH THE COPS

If they are NOT real police it throws them a curve, believe me they dont want to wait around and be discovered by the real cops, they are gambling on a quick hit, high intimidation tactic. Same thing IF they ARE real police, worried their little bullying scam comes to light. (Likely their Supervisor is NOT in on the deal as he is supposed to be and he'll be pissed). They will also take issue with their female accomplice later, probably throw an ass whipping on her for holding out the P 1000 she "stole" from you.

ALWAYS, ALWAYS, ALWAYS maintain your cool, ALWAYS be polite and respectful, Play stupid if anything but DONT act like a typical foreigner, loudly asserting your rights etc.

USE YOUR BRAIN NOT YOUR MOUTH.


regards


Spamhog

Pute Nut
02-21-07, 14:41
The newest deal here now is getting arested for indeasent exposure. There was a british guy that had a gal come up behind him and pull his shorts down. The police were waiting in sight of the guy and then closed in for the scoop. They wanted 2500-p but after his friend and himself yak yaked to them payed 7500-p each. Yes each, the reason for the second guy was he wondered over to see whats up and ran his mouth and went with the cops also.

The gal was nowhere to be seen after she saw the guys off in the van. Another great situation here now going on here in AC.

B.B.

BB...do you know (approximately) when and where this scam took place?

Pute Nut
02-21-07, 14:55
ALWAYS, ALWAYS, ALWAYS maintain your cool, ALWAYS be polite and respectful, Play stupid if anything but DONT act like a typical foreigner, loudly asserting your rights etc.

Very good advice Spamhog, although sometimes it can really impress filipinos if you can quote certain Republic Acts (in a cool, calm and collected way). Actually if you ARE right, did NOTHING wrong and look like you are determined to prove it, they will often start to feel a little uneasy. And when you feel like they are ready to drop whatever scam they were trying to pull...make sure to provide a nice way out that preserves face of all parties involved.

In the case related to us by BB I think the guys should just look at the payment as a Stupidity Tax and move on. But it's a funny story. Thanks BB :D

Too Jaded
02-21-07, 16:35
Running your mouth to the cops (even if you are right) is probably the worst thing you can do. THEY ALWAYS HOLD THE UPPER HAND. This sounds like a typical shake down where some guy, probably half drunk was targeted. In a situation like this consider a few things:

USE YOUR BRAIN NOT YOUR MOUTH.SH, once again you are a shining beacon of reason, too bad it is not always exemplified by others (myself included).

I think this advice extends to anywhere outside your 'own back yard'. Why be stupid and challenge the machismo of an authority that has an advantage over you? If you comply, the worst that can happen (unless you are patently guilty) is you have to go back to the station and pay the 'fine' there unless you want to wait for the consul to come whenever they can. I do not see it going that far for such a farce unless you are guilty or did something else to draw the ire of the cops.

However in most cases I would have to say that you will put them off game and remove yourself from the 'fast and convenient' target category. If you force them to take you back to the station there is paperwork and explanations, all while they are not on the street hustling some other poor slob. Or if they are just con artists, what more can they do?

Of course, if you are in a dark alley outside the public view: I would do the smart thing and give them whatever they want. But you are inviting such trouble by being in said alley, of course!

Thanks, Mr. Hog! I apologize for posting so much stupid BS but being out of commission in AC has left me with little to do except post stupid shit. I can't even drink until tomorrow, doctor's orders. :(

2J

Strikesfun
02-22-07, 00:29
BBBJ or FS took me a little time to learn my lesson. But after spoiling a few trips because of not using a condom, say two days after arrival catching C or G or what ever, and leaving in say 10 days, it became clear to me that I was ruining my trips. Now maybe it is just my luck but by staying the condom route I bang for the all the 10 days. Little note, if you have not been lucky to catch one of these C or G and if you think taking a leak is hard and really painfull believe me it is impossible to drop a load. Just my story. Keep smiling and choice is a beautiful thing.

Dafacer
02-22-07, 03:28
Thanks a million PN. Walking distance I'd like to keep under 20min or so, I would need furnished with all the amenites (A/C, kitchen, secure, quiet, ect) budget is pretty flexible as I won't be slumming. 10,000/month?

Thanks again! T


Dafacer,

My point was basically that while Tiger sure is a very good deal @ P900 daily (weekly prepaid rate) their monthly rate just drops an additional 5 % and 25 k Pesos monthly still gives you quite a lot of purchasing power in the rental market in AC. A decent unfurnished apt can be rented for 3-4000 P/month and up (sans utilities) on a yearly basis, so the various long term serviced/furnished apts cannot deviate too much from that...

There are so many options available, including the hotels in Diamond Subd (requires a little legwork or a jeepney/trike ride), where you will probably be able to get good long term discounts.

Just let me know your ballpark budget and any specific requests such as walking distance, kitchenette etc and I'll try to suggest the best AC LT rental bang for your bucks.

Cheers PN

Bill Buxton
02-22-07, 21:59
BB. Do you know (approximately) when and where this scam took place? This shit happened 5 days ago. And I talked first hand to the two guys on Wednesday. They are on there way to subic now. I would just like to say they are quiet well manered guys from England. One was a younger kid 30 at best and well manered. He was the one that had the gal pull down the shorts. The other guy could be 40 at best. They are ok with the deal they just said they know how easy it is to get extorted from here.

Play safer,

B.B.

Vvvvvvroom
02-23-07, 06:48
better yet make her use listerine (tm) and hold the toothbrushing, it can cause bleeding in (bad) gums. the [CodeWord134] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134) & wash (tm) suggestion is a very good one.

it's incredible that so many guys do these girls bb. regardless how cute, sweet and gfe they are - they do suck and and fuck guys (including some very skanky looking ones) from all over the world for money. hygiene does a good job weeding out the obvious sti and they do even ground girls permanently on occasion...but whatever these girls will bs about $$$ is what they care about. after coming back from a bf they will not discuss the possible exotic pleasure they had from being eaten out by the service-minded mongerer (a filipino will not lick a girl "down there"), the size of the dick or if the condom broke. actually, they don't care very much about that. their first topic of discussion will always be: how big was the tip?

they don't really know/care much what stis they get, more than to what extent it will be noticed and cause them a problem at checkup. and they certainly don't bother much about what they will pass on to the mongerers.

case in point. i was talking to a non-bargirl who is contemplating working in a bar. i mentioned a girl she knows about who was taken out of action permanently by hygiene and asked her "do you want to end up like her".

- yes, she has a nice cellphone now!

- wow then she can use it and call her folks back home and tell them about her sickness..

- yes, well at least she experienced the feeling of being rich!this is somewhat relevant to the above message. i met this tall beautiful pinay that worked at an internet cafe on fields avenue (internet cafe is no longer there), her name was rina guzman.

she agreed to meet me in the lobby of clarkton hotel after she got off from work. surprisingly, she came to meet me. after talking briefly in the lobby she suggested we go to my room. one thing led to another and before you know it we were having sex.

after that she wanted to go to the mall which we did. she took me by surprise when she asked me to buy her some clothing, being a sucker for her beauty i did.

she stayed with me at the hotel for the remainder of my stay in angeles. all was nice until i returned to the states to find that she had given me chlamydia. i was fortunate that i didn't get anything else.

had i known that pinoys don't eat pinays, then i would have known that her asking me to eat her was indication that she was getting it from tourist that "go down," or that i wasn't the first tourist she had been with.

i should know better, but here's my question, is it safe to assume that all woman that work on fields, at non-bar-associated jobs, bar-girls?

i haven't been in contact with her for awhile, anyone else know who i'm talking about?

Krum Lov
02-23-07, 10:06
Vroooom, sorry to hear about that experience. can you clarify? you caught chlamydia via giving her oral sex, or by not using condom when having intercourse?

as for bbbj, i'm always worried about them (i'd NEVER go BB with intercourse), but i don't wear condoms when getting BJs. the idea to take a [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) after getting BJ is a good one. what do you guys think about getting the girl to chew on some of that listerine chewing gum you can buy at chemists (it contains abiti-bacterial properties like in mouthwash). think that could help negate chances of stds through bb oral sex?

Yella Man
02-23-07, 10:20
V,

No it's not safe to assume that all girls who work in jobs other than the bars are bar-girls. Some of them may have been in the past, and some of them will be in the future, but I have met quite a few girls who work in restaraunts, malls, and other stores who make less than $3.00 a day, but who still won't turn to the promise of fast cash by working in the bars. But you must understand that it doesn't matter where the girl works. After being in Angeles all their lives, or however long they have been there, they start to get a sense of how easy it is to make money on the side from foreigners. They do this without guilt, and in their minds it's not prostitution. It's all about economics. "We have" and "They want"! So they figure out all kinds of ways to make us give what we have, to them. Of course they give us some poon in return, but only to help us lighten our pockets. I still love the place though!

Always on the Quest

Yella Man


This is somewhat relevant to the above message. I met this tall beautiful pinay that worked at an internet cafe on Fields Avenue (internet cafe is no longer there), her name was Rina Guzman.

She agreed to meet me in the lobby of Clarkton Hotel after she got off from work. Surprisingly, she came to meet me. After talking briefly in the lobby she suggested we go to my room. One thing led to another and before you know it we were having sex.

After that she wanted to go to the mall which we did. She took me by surprise when she asked me to buy her some clothing, being a sucker for her beauty I did.

She stayed with me at the hotel for the remainder of my stay in Angeles. All was nice until I returned to the states to find that she had given me chlamydia. I was fortunate that I didn't get anything else.

Had I known that pinoys don't eat pinays, then I would have known that her asking me to eat her was indication that she was getting it from tourist that "go down," or that I wasn't the first tourist she had been with.

I should know better, but here's my question, is it safe to assume that all woman that work on fields, at non-bar-associated jobs, bar-girls?

I haven't been in contact with her for awhile, anyone else know who I'm talking about?

Phantomtiger2
02-24-07, 01:56
i don't wear condoms when getting BJs. the idea to take a [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) after getting BJ is a good one. what do you guys think about getting the girl to chew on some of that listerine chewing gum you can buy at chemists (it contains abiti-bacterial properties like in mouthwash). think that could help negate chances of stds through bb oral sex?


Never a bad idea to take any precautions as its always better than nothing. But, Remember that antibacterials only kills Bacteria and not Virus. Most of the stuff you buy will only say Anti-bacterials. Always remember that HIV and Herpes are Viruses so only using protection will be safest method.


PT

Hesekiels
02-24-07, 16:31
... Had I known that pinoys don't eat pinays ...

Interesting news to me! Is that verified? Can anybody confirm?

Cheers - Hesekiels

Bill Buxton
02-25-07, 04:34
the newest deal getting the guys here in a world of shit is paying street kids for a pack of gum. Yes I am sure you and I have felt bad for the dirty little people selling a pack of gum. Well, this is a new trap just the same.

Get this a person is watching you pay the child selling the gum to you and snapps a photoof you putting the cash in the kids hand. The thing is the photo will not show the gum they are selling. You are touching a child and this issought out to be attempted whatever they want to say.

True, false, you be the judge, all I can say is no more money to street children asking for money. Who wants to be the next guy up in front of a judge telling your side with photos backing up the charge.

Staying on top,

B. B.

Steve Dunstone
02-25-07, 04:48
Interesting news to me! Is that verified? Can anybody confirm?

Cheers - HesekielsThat would be pretty consistent with most Asian cultures/sexual practices.

They don't go down as a norm.

Dashing Don
02-25-07, 05:15
Last Saturday night, a friend and I were coming back to the US border in Tijuana when we were accosted by Mexican police. Ostensibly, they were looking for Viagra, which, is sold without prescription everywhere in TJ so I don't know whats illegal with that. Anyway, we were spreadeagled by two cops with nasty attitudes. I had about $500 in my right pocket and tried to keep my right hand on the pocket to prevent the cop from stealing my money. He roughly pulled my hand off, at which point, I turned around to face him. Very slowly, he put his hand in my pocket, pulled out the cash and handed it to me. He then continued with his search, which revealed nothing anyway. I've also had this happen in Bangkok, but as I don't use drugs I don't worry about it.

My feeling about these encounters with the police is that it is a battle of wills. If they wanted to rob you, then they would simply put a gun to your head and take your money. But I haven't heard of that happening. Maybe they're afraid of a scene and perhaps losing their jobs or some other unpleasantness, so usually, they use a pretext to get you to cough up something, like the 'indecent exposure' scam. They are on shaky ground and they know it.

Because I'm never carrying anything illegal, right from the start, I've got a stern, uncompromising attitude. Sure, I comply with their orders, but its obvious to them from the getgo that this isn't going to be an easy extortion. I've always been let go. Never once have they taken it to the next level and asked me for money. It doesn't matter what the language is, they understand by the body language that its going to be a problem. If they did ask for money, then I'd insist on a receipt, with their name on it......at the police station. With the American consul present.

Spam Hog is right that they have the upper hand, but not totally. If they did, they'd dispense with scams and force the money from you. But they fear the hue and cry that would inevitably ensue, so they aren't all powerful.

Of course, all this depends on you, the gringo, being innocent. If you're not, then I guess that you have to start smiling and negotiating :)

GoodTimes2
02-25-07, 07:40
I have a good story to share.

I have always been a big advocate of condoms on these trips. I usually take a hundred or more with me and whatever I dont use, I hand out to the ladies in the end.

There was one trip where I had barfined this one woman more then a few times. We were like buddies. So, one thing led to the next and we started doing it without condoms. She was the only one who I did without a condom.

Then it was time to get back on the plane and head home. I got off the plane at my home country and went into the bathroom. My penis was on fire and it was one of the most uncomfortable feelings I have had in my entire lifetime. It was as if there was an open wound at the tip of my penis and someone was pouring alcohol all over it.

Unfortunately, it was night time when it happened at the airport and I couldnt go to my doctor until the morning. I almost felt like just going to the emergency room, but this was a matter that I felt I had to take up with my private doctor rather then deal with it at the public emergency room. It was a long night sleeping with my dick on fire. As soon as that doctor's office opened at 8am, I was in there. I got the prescription for the antibiotics and I remember this long wait at the pharmacy. I hurried them up the best I could saying that I was late for work, but the real reason was flaming penis.

Well guys, this was the most uncomfortable feeling I have had in my entire life. I have barebacked many women back in the states, but I have never caught anything. The entire experience was a big eye opener and taught me a lesson.

Yes I have had a few HIV tests since and am negative.

I have broken bones before and been in accidents. However, the feeling that your dick is on fire is like none other. Its a very private part of your body unlike your hand and if anything happens to it, then your stuck. Luckily, this was all curable and worked out for the better.

It was embarassing trying to explain to the doctor. I didnt tell him that I went to the Phils and picked it up, just told him that it was some woman I was dating.


Vroooom, sorry to hear about that experience. can you clarify? you caught chlamydia via giving her oral sex, or by not using condom when having intercourse?

as for bbbj, i'm always worried about them (i'd NEVER go BB with intercourse), but i don't wear condoms when getting BJs. the idea to take a [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) after getting BJ is a good one. what do you guys think about getting the girl to chew on some of that listerine chewing gum you can buy at chemists (it contains abiti-bacterial properties like in mouthwash). think that could help negate chances of stds through bb oral sex?

Hesekiels
02-25-07, 15:12
I have a good story to share.

I had barfined this one woman more then a few times. We were like buddies. So, one thing led to the next and we started doing it without condoms. She was the only one who I did without a condom ... My penis was on fire and it was one of the most uncomfortable feelings I have had in my entire lifetime ...

While reading the recent posts it seems to me that a number of bargirls spread STD's although all of them have a weekly check-up, or am I wrong?! Bad enough and also a little strange as even an ordinary nurse can detect at least gonorrhea and chlamydia easily. Maybe their weekly health control is worthless?

Folks, I think we need to find asap a store that sells "really reliable condoms". The stuff sold at Seven Eleven ("Trust") breaks namely in 3 out of 5 cases! Has anybody got the same experience?

Cheers - Hesekiels

Eaglestar
02-25-07, 16:02
Last Saturday night, a friend and I were coming back to the US border in Tijuana when we were accosted by Mexican police. Ostensibly, they were looking for Viagra, which, is sold without prescription everywhere in TJ so I don't know whats illegal with that. Anyway, we were spreadeagled by two cops with nasty attitudes. I had about $500 in my right pocket and tried to keep my right hand on the pocket to prevent the cop from stealing my money. He roughly pulled my hand off, at which point, I turned around to face him. Very slowly, he put his hand in my pocket, pulled out the cash and handed it to me. He then continued with his search, which revealed nothing anyway. I've also had this happen in Bangkok, but as I don't use drugs I don't worry about it.

My feeling about these encounters with the police is that it is a battle of wills. If they wanted to rob you, then they would simply put a gun to your head and take your money. But I haven't heard of that happening. Maybe they're afraid of a scene and perhaps losing their jobs or some other unpleasantness, so usually, they use a pretext to get you to cough up something, like the 'indecent exposure' scam. They are on shaky ground and they know it.

Because I'm never carrying anything illegal, right from the start, I've got a stern, uncompromising attitude. Sure, I comply with their orders, but its obvious to them from the getgo that this isn't going to be an easy extortion. I've always been let go. Never once have they taken it to the next level and asked me for money. It doesn't matter what the language is, they understand by the body language that its going to be a problem. If they did ask for money, then I'd insist on a receipt, with their name on it......at the police station. With the American consul present.

Spam Hog is right that they have the upper hand, but not totally. If they did, they'd dispense with scams and force the money from you. But they fear the hue and cry that would inevitably ensue, so they aren't all powerful.

Of course, all this depends on you, the gringo, being innocent. If you're not, then I guess that you have to start smiling and negotiating :)

Interesting report but WTF does TJ have to do with AC?

Yella Man
02-25-07, 16:11
Actually, chlamydia has no symptoms in 80% of the people affected. The test they would have to run weekly on all the girls would cost quite a bit of money, so I'm assuming the clinics do a visual and maybe a smar that doesn't go anywhere but the trash (cost effective). Remember, it's a requirement to be tested in order for the girls to hold their entertainment license. So they go weekly and get the once over. Who says the clinics are actually doing their jobs? In the States it takes 3 to 7 days for results to come back. Imagine how many mongers a girl can infect in that amount of time? It's really simple...cover that rascal up or pay the consequences.

Always on the Quest

Yella Man


While reading the recent posts it seems to me that a number of bargirls spread STD's although all of them have a weekly check-up, or am I wrong?! Bad enough and also a little strange as even an ordinary nurse can detect at least gonorrhea and chlamydia easily. Maybe their weekly health control is worthless?

Folks, I think we need to find asap a store that sells "really reliable condoms". The stuff sold at Seven Eleven ("Trust") breaks namely in 3 out of 5 cases! Has anybody got the same experience?

Cheers - Hesekiels