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Brown Stick
12-01-04, 06:51
Common now fellow mongers!

Let us STOP talking about getting a "wife", Let us START talking about how u got or how to get a "life" for a lay!

Brown

J Ride
12-02-04, 01:59
I just got back from Pattaya with my buddy and I hate it. I wish we never left. The moment we get to the U.S. Airport customs is there to remind you that a good majority of people here are dickheads. Sorry, I'm just complaining. None the less, we had an awesome trip as usual. A taxi straight to Pattaya and at the end of the week, straight back is always the way to go. We stayed at the Eastiny Inn. We got the big suite on top for 1,800 baht and an extra room for 850 baht. We could have bargained them down, but we figured we had a good deal on the rooms regardless. The highlights of the week are that I got to bang to cousins (and they we're definately related, I'll post pictures lader). However, my friend got one up on me and banged identical twins! That bastard is so lucky. I couldn't believe it. But of course we have pictures of that too. I post them all later.r I miss Thailand. If, by the off chance, any of you guys work available in Pattaya, let me know.

Shamas
12-02-04, 10:49
I tried to access WSG.org from half dozen internet cafes in Pattaya and kept getting the same message - Royal Thai Police have banned this site. Well I'm back in BKK and WSG is alive and well here.

MarcoStraight
12-02-04, 18:43
I tried to access WSG.org from half dozen internet cafes in Pattaya and kept getting the same message - Royal Thai Police have banned this site. Well I'm back in BKK and WSG is alive and well here.

What the hell u're talkin' about....

LittleBigMan
12-02-04, 20:37
MarcoStraight,

Shamas question is valet! While I was in Pattaya in the Month of November I could not access the Site at any of the Internet Cafes. The Message indicated that the site was censored! I asked this question earlier and got no replies!
I did not have time to try it in BKK, but it certainly did not work in Pattaya!

LBM

Sting
12-02-04, 23:10
Hi Guys,

I never had problems. Go to Big C. Inside is an internet cafee or go up to the north. Near the circle there is one which works.

Sting

Shamas
12-03-04, 06:49
I'm just reporting the facts.

Good to know you can access WSG at Big C, I didn't know it. I did try quite a few cybercafes in the soi 13 area and got the same pop up at each of them.

I'm at cafe close to Nana right now and am not having a problem. But a cafe down on soi 9 gave me the same pop up last week.

In todays Bangkok News the government is going to propose legalizing prostitution and gambling both. Looks like they have a good head on their shoulders.

Shamas

That Asshole
12-03-04, 08:37
#101/2004

Had the most excellent fuck last night. It happened quite unexpectedly though. As usual I had a list of gogo's to visit for the night. I just like watching meat dancing on the stage better than actually rooting them. (But it's good feeling that we actually can if the need arises.)

There were some nice lookers at Electric Blue. However, none seemed interested in my insignificant presence as there were lots of young men in the bar at that time. Then looked at Heaven. Also 3 or 4 very beautiful girls. One 19 year old is just downright gorgeous but she wears black nail-varnish which is as low as a woman can go in my opinion.

The Beach Club is another place that rocks. The girls are not so extremely beautiful but the setup is unbeatable and they are pretty keen to flirt.

Entered the last bar on the list around 11pm. There are always lots of top lookers here. The bar was packed with older gentlemen. I really came just to look around and watch the dancers. I am on holidays now by the way (a happy centurian).

Ordered a beer and noticed this girl smiling from the stage. In fact she was one of the best dancers. Not just shifting weight from one leg to the other but she actually put on a little dance-performance of her own.

You could see she was horny and in need of a good root. I waved her down and in 5 seconds she was dancing in my lap, rubbing herself vry heavily, trying to give me a hard-on (successfully). Didn't even ask for a drink but I got one for her anyway. Looking at her at close she looked even younger than from the stage. She was 20. Just very good body.

Not petite but rather a large, model-like girl. Nearly everybody is big here. Only negative is the rubbery-touch skin, not the usual velvety-soft type. But could be because she was sweating heavily after the dance.

She's also very pale. I could see she was drunk too. She spoke little English but got it across that she was horny and wanted a good banging. Made me horny too. I asked if she 'smoke men'. She said "barfine me and you will see!"
I barfined her.

Back in my room I nearly screamed my head off while she was giving head. Constantly I was thinking: How can a 20 year young girl give a BJ like this? It was even better than old 45 year Fon's at Classrooom who did half of the US Navy.

Then she fucked me like a hungry tigress. It was one of the best sessions in a long time. Afterwards she plainly and somewhat insensitively stated the truth: "I don't like you but I like your dick." Was that a compliment or what? Anyway, she got paid 1000 and went. Also left her tube of lube behind (which we didn't need anyway).

Gifts like this just fall on you out of the blue, like a motorcycle accident.

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The story doesn't end here. It has a continuation. An it is just getting better. Will post soon.

madwizard
12-08-04, 03:32
I tried to access WSG.org from half dozen internet cafes in Pattaya and kept getting the same message - Royal Thai Police have banned this site. Well I'm back in BKK and WSG is alive and well here.I've been able to access WSG from numerous internet cafes on Soi Buokow

Madwizard

Tattooed Guy
12-08-04, 11:45
There's a place in Soi 4 I always go to and no problem to access the board, 6 computers, fast connection, 1 Baht a minute and free glass of water, and I'm not on a commission.

Tattooed Guy
12-08-04, 11:58
Clandestine,

Instead of trying to save a girl, there's a guy in Soi 6 that needs to be saved. He has a girlfriend that he sends 30000 baht to every monh, but because she would be bored he allows her to work 'behind' the bar, as long as she promised not to go with anybody, which she nicely did, the promise I mean.

2 nights ago, she nearly got caught, she was just about to leave the bar with a young guy while her generous BF showed up, she could just tell her friend to go away with the young guy and explain him that she can't go with him. He already payed the barfine, but didn't want to cause trouble I guess so off he went and the girl who works 'behind' the bar got saved from losing 30000 a month extra.

And they lived happelly ever after, at least she will.

Tatoosh
12-08-04, 22:07
Alexander,

There is some universal wisdom in that quote, "I don't like you but I like your dick." She nailed the underlaying theme of most mongers, who may not like the provider but love the pussy. Refreshing to hear of an able and willing young woman with a sense of irony. Even if it wasn't intended.

Tatoosh

That Asshole
12-09-04, 03:46
#103/2004

she had the biggest tits in the bar. she was also bubbly, cheerful, slim enough and only 19. what more could you want? she wasn't the youngest in the bar, as there were a couple of 18 year olds, but young enough to be fun anyway.

her (very cute) smiley face also had some chinese features that reminded me of the horniest dancer at living dolls showcase some months back that i couldn't pop (b1000 barfine for a start!). in fact she could have been that girl's little sister, except being even more cute. price 1000/st or 2000/lt. we agreed in something of semi-long-time, 8pm to midnight for 1500b.

we went to look at polo entertainment. the shows are quite good there. wish we could have stayed longer. then also sat in a men's gogo bar, teasing her that i barfine for her any man she likes there. they are really cheap, bf only 300. half the price of the girls. (i felt a bit inferior as some of the guys are really handsome in there.)

all the time she was the perfect hostess. lifting the drink to my mouth every so often and giving me a kiss or two at just the right times. she was also funny and entertaining, telling a lot about her life. we got along really well. at polo one girl even asked if we were married (i am sure only for a joke).

we arrived back to the hotel. did the undressing and then suddenly she starts packing with horror on her face.

"i cannot boom-boom your huge dick. i go home now!"

(it is really not that big!)
i try to calm her down.

she starts sobbing.
"in bar you tell me you have big dick but i think not that big!"

i do not panic. really it doesn't matter. i had a good time with her just barhopping and will get the bf back from mamasan tomorrow. but i quite like her so i offer that we give it a try. if it hurts then we stop. she agrees.

otherwise she is very shameless. full roomlighting is on. she gives bj. she has a really beautiful shaved snatch. not a single hair on it . she does it every morning. perfect inside and out. i dig my tongue deep in her hole until she begs: "please fuck me!"

i continue digging and make her say it aloud a few times:"please fuck me! please fuck me!"

well, you asked for it girl!

i tell her to get on top and we agree that she will stop if it hurts her. from there on she goes wild like a mad horse rider. forgets about pain, about the world!

i was sort of expecting that. once they get a taste of their new toy, they love it. i just couldn't keep her from fucking me harder and harder. we go through several positions. i can't stop admiring her fresh, youthful body.

we kiss deeply and the little vampire bites my tongue. me profusely bleeding in her mouth, she just remarks: "your blood tastes salty."

she is riding the ol'ugly farang like there is not tomorrow, with her face red from excitement, huge tits waving in front of my nose and her pretty young face contorted in that silly extatic smile. afterwards i tell her: "you looked like a crazy girl riding there".

but before that i have another idea. we move to the bathroom. three of the walls are covered in mirrors. i make her sit on the sink. just the right level for me. then she really loses all her dignity and fucks like as if mad.

i tell her - "you see how dirty sl*t you are, even watching yourself in the mirror when being fucked"!

before she said she would never do that. but when they are horny they do anything.

finally we both had enough. i tell her that in the bar she looked rather like a 25 year old but now with hormones pumping she looks really nineteen. sure they do. it revitalizes all women.

we watch tv a bit then she leaves at 12.00. funny to observe the attitude change though. as soon as the cash is in her hand she speeds out of the door like lightning, without saying as much as 'goodbye'.

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another story:


gfe in a soapie?

i have never had a girlfriend (and not looking). mainly because i wouldn't know what to do with it apart from fucking. the other reason might be the accounting background that makes me always to ask first: how much is it going to cost?

however some of the fucking experiences would possibly beat those that most people have with their gf. for example this soapie girl.

this is already the second time that i have really good times at the same sabai massage. (the previous one was even better.) this girl just arrived from chiang rai. working only a week and sick out of that for 5 days so that would make me one of the first dozen punters to pop her in pattaya.

nice smiley face, very white skin, large sized mammaries. (those look great in the bath- tub, all soaped up). worth a jackpot. only costed 1780 baht ($44.50 @40 baht for the $). time about 80 minutes.

slow, unhurried session. the best thing i liked that she made eyecontact and kept it most of the time. she also moaned and even screamed a few notes very authentically. there was some hot and deep kissing that might be even called 'passionate' and she showed every sign of enjoying the session herself. the massage wasn't too bad either.

what i also liked that she seemed to show some genuine interest in this ageing 'farang' and talked quite a bit about her life back at home. we held each other tight. even her soaping both of us up was slow and seemed passionate enough with constant eyecontact.

all in all, a top session for the cost, and it was so easy. i didn't have to chat her up talking bs at the bar. do i hate that so much. mind you, by looks she would have easily made it among the top girls at super baby gogo.

so, in summary an egotrip for me which was very much needed after being turned down by some of the top models at diamond and living dolls the night before. but he only way to make sure you will never be turned down is by not asking. i will just have a go with them a month later again.

by "being turned down" i do not mean that they said to fo. no, they are too polite to do that. but when you are buying them a drink and they just giving you that blank expression for anything you say pretending they do not understand and you sit there in silence then in effect it means just that. and fucking an uncooperative ho is just as much fun as having your tooth pulled.

by now i am possibly also acquiring the reputation of a hard core sex-addict (unfairly!) which doesn't make it easier to pick-up girls i like. really the best thing is just to stay in pattaya for a week or two and then fo to some far-away land for a while like angeles or some island in indonesia. then to come back recharged and continue banging the newly arrived girls.

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on another note, i am expressing my distaste about how bargirls here talk about their ageing 'farang' boyfriends. several girls i chatted at bars stated that they actually don't like them but only stay with them for their money.

even though it happens a lot, it is very "uncool" here for a young girls to go with men much older than themselves.

a filipina would never say that. in the pi it is so much more natural to have a couple where the guy is 50 or 60 and the girl 18-20 years young. nobody blinks an eye.

Bakwahn
12-09-04, 22:21
Thanks Alexander,

Again, a great report.

You have many faithful readers. I am one of them.

Bakwahn

Gonzo2
12-12-04, 20:10
In other site there is new bar South Pataya only Russian girl for 1000b s/t and 500 for bar by TQ2.

EDITOR's NOTE: Posting of this report was delayed pending revisions to add standard capitalization throughout the text. To avoid delays in future reports, please refrain from using the "chat room" style of writing with no capital lettering. Thanks!

That Asshole
12-13-04, 05:47
The 100th one this year

Normally the girls that hang out at Pattaya beach are even below the quality of most beer-bar girls. Those few who are reasonable lookers are too young and cannot work in bars yet. So,. in three years I took only 3 girls from the beach. All of those looked out of place there and were exceptionally attractive in that end of town.

So, again I stroll down the beach and see these three girls smiling, giggling and waving. Two are pretty average but one of them is not too bad. Looks very clean, well dressed and combed, has an intelligent face. We start to talk. She is not a world class beauty but nevertheless quite cute for this end of town. Well above average for beachgirls. Turns out she is 23, from Khorat, arrived 2 weeks ago. Do a bit of talking and we seem to get along quite well, like naturals, even like old friends.

When I mentioned money she blushed. She said "it's up to you". And also that "don't need to pay, just for friendship", which rang the alarmbell for me right away. It will be too expensive that way. So I said 300 baht and she okayed immediately. I wasn't really going to take one from the beach but who can go past a cheap root?

Had the best gentle sex in the hotel. Like if we were lovers for a lifetime or something. It was just great. She also had a nice body, very little signs of her kid. She said that she wanted to be my girl-friend. I explained that it would be impossible as I have never had a girlfiend and not even do long-times often, and not going to take one now for old age.

I am not sure if she understood. Funny, there are girls like this.

By the way now I am starting to grasp why all these girls are offering me their services as 'girlfriend'. Because I look like a complete sucker who can easily be scammed. That's why!

Nevertheless it was a very sweet time and I started to miss her five minutes after she got paid the 300B and left. Anyway, it was good enough for the #98th point this year. Two more to go before holiday.


next day:

Taking a rest today. Just had a look at some gogos and chased up some new meat for possible future action. Still, slim pickings in the beerbars. Total drinks bill only 550 baht for the night.

While strolling on the beach, met the yesterday's cute little girl again. This time she was sitting with her poofter friend, a very dirty looking boy, apparently from the same village. She must have given a good review about me as he offered too that I can fuck him for free.

I thanked him for his generous offer but kindly declined. I felt sorry for him as he had nothing else to give except his ass.

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Men shouldn't be in this situation. Men are naturally more intelligent and in every aspect excel when compared to women. Of course sending women to education takes jobs away from men.

This poor boy is typical example. When will men wake up and stop this madness. In the old days schools were full of men and brothels filled with women. Those good old days!
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next day:

It couldn't have been more perfect. Today the final points got done in the best possible way and with great glamour. Given the present dire situation in terms of meat in Pattaya, I was a bit worried about making the last two points on time and in style, before the end of the year.

There are beautiful girls walking around with men as I see, but where do they get them is unclear. Plus do they perform well?

This project of finishing the 100 in style, is hanging over my head, giving me headache. Where do I find the missing two quality cunts and how to have a good time with them? Especially difficult because I hate courting them too much, beyond asking the price (not a ladies' man).

So, there was this gogo bar with girls doing some very teasing shows. I liked the naughtiest girl. She looked very attractive but she wasn't the most beautiful of them, yet she was always the life of the show. Such a horny little thing. She always kept pinching the other girls bottoms, grabbing their tits, kissing them on on the mouth on and off the stage, just for fun.

I invited her for a drink to see what comes out of it. She seemed game enough. What's more, soon her friend called Kai, a very beautiful girl, (a bit smaller tits but even more attractive than her, 20 years) joined us and they mentioned that they love to work together and are best friends too. Wow, this got my mind moving. My two missing points! I asked them for some time to think. I had to make a plan of what to do with them.

They came around again after a few minutes and we fixed the details. They get 1000B each for ST 1.5 hrs in the short-time room, both do BJ, play with each other, I boom-boom both, etc, etc. They seemed to be quite excited by the idea of working together again. So, off we went.

The two girls were the sweetest thing on earth, as sweet as sugar. We played together like lovers, all the while.

Not for one moment did I fool myself that they actually liked me, but they were total professionals and gave me that image nevertheless. By 'professional' I do not mean that they were businesslike. Quite the opposite. It felt as if a group of old friends were bonking each other in their spare time.

It was just the fucking hottest threesome ever so far. They did everything they promised. The best thing was that I didn't have to direct them much, they were totally devoted to the job and run the whole show by themselves. What a crown to my 100 **** project!

After returning to the bar I ordered a bottle of champagne and drank it with about five cuties. When the question of the reason for the champagne-celebration came up I told them the truth that they were the #99th and #100th hookers I fucked this year.

They didn't seem too impressed naturally, nevertheless giggled politely. Maybe they didn't believe it at all and thought that it was a joke too.

Fuck, it was hard! But it's done. When it was finally done, I just felt so happy. I am relieved for the rest of the year. No more fucks, no more chasing meat, just rest. How about 200 next year? I am not sure yet.

The good thing about work is that it gives you some objective and you don't just hang around aimlessly. It wasn't paid-work, yet work it was. To chase up the meat, to organise the travels, to do the budgeting, etc.

This project pretty much filled up my year and it was so good. Possibly one of the the best years of my life so far.

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The money matters:

If anyone is contemplating of doing a similar run, the following few figures might help in budgeting.

a./
Total spent on fucking the 100 cunts: $3,950 >>>>($39.50/**** avg.)

This includes all the fees, barfines, drinks, small gifts, even taxi to the venues, etc. Also includes the damage on days which were spent just chasing up meat, doing the interviews, etc.

b./
Total spent on living expenses, hotels, food, beer with meals, public transport, train, domestic airtickets, etc. for 7 months: $5,076 >>>>($24/day avg.)

c./
total of a+b=3950+5076 >>>>USD $9,026 (fucking and living expenses)

this total figure divided by the 100 kuntz gives the result of $90/fuck

Do they come any cheaper than that?

d./
The immediate cost of pussy (for cash in hand amount) ranged from

$5 / 40 minutes (with a very beautiful 19 year old) (reasonably good service!)

to

$73 / three hours with a 22 y.o. real beauty (excellent service!)

(I don't like 'Long Times/Overnight stay' so it's not all but mostly by the hour.)

Of course this $5 etc. refers only to the 'immediate cost', which is not complete. There are also 'hidden costs', eg. chasing up the meat which are also accounted for in the 'total costs figure'.

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So, how to budget your fucking trip?

The following formula will work well in any of the following countries:
Indonesia, Philippines, Thailand, Cambodia. These all have similar price structures.

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(number of days X $30) + (fuck X $40) + airticket = Total Cost of Trip

...this allowing a bit extra expenses...

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How to plan your trip:

1. Set number of days
2. Set desired fuck/day ratio (eg. 1, 0.5, 0.8 etc.)
3. Calculate number of fucks . Eg 30daysX0.5=15 fucks (at ratio of 0.5)
4. Multiply your number of days by $30 (30 days X $30 = $900)
5. Multiply your desired number of fucks by $40 (15 X $40 = $600)
6. Add the cost of your air ticket, eg. $1600
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7. Calculate using the formula $900+$600+$1600 = $3,100 Total cost of Fucking Trip for 15 cunts. (I assume you are fucking a different **** every time, as you should. Put them back into circulation so that everyone can have fun!)

This is your total cost: $3100 or $206/****!

All expenses paid holiday. No hidden extra costs. Meat doesn't come cheaper than that! Not even from the corner butcher shop.

Wahoolee
12-13-04, 08:48
Top notch report with all the detailed cost information.

Thanks! :D

Philo
12-13-04, 13:52
... I felt sorry for him as he had nothing else to give except his ass. ....

Well I feel sorry for you - what else have you to offer than 300 Baht?

An introductory course in Cheap Charlie Budgeting & Accounting?

Coupler
12-13-04, 14:07
Well I feel sorry for you - what else have you to offer than 300 Baht?

An introductory course in Cheap Charlie Budgeting & Accounting?What's your problem?

He's been the most contributary member of this board lately.

If you have a problem, don't read it.

The Traveler
12-13-04, 23:23
Philo,

he made an offer, she agreed to it. Sounds like a fair deal for me.
He doesn't trick her or played cheap charlie afterwards so I do not see any prob.

JuiceSpike
12-13-04, 23:40
You can't get more direct than your report. This hobby can get expensive especially when you fuck 2 or 3 or 4 girls a day at an average of 1,300 each (plus tip).... Shit, I better stop thinking about it...

Good report.

juice

Mangga
12-14-04, 04:34
Hey you guys in Pattaya!

I spend most of my time in Indonesia but was thinking of making a side trip to Thailand. Haven't been for a few years. But I hear that the fucklets no longer dance topless or nude. Is this sad news true for Pattaya too?

Please, someone let me know.

The Traveler
12-15-04, 23:00
Guys,

today I have received a letter of Father Philip of the FR. RAY FOUNDATION.
I regularly donate and kindly ask all other members to do the same.

Please help the poor and innocent and donate some money to

FR. RAY FOUNDATION
184 Moo 6, Sukhumvit 144
Box 15, Pattaya City
Chonburi 20150
Thailand

Phone +66 - 38 - 428 717, 422745
Fax +66 - 38 - 716 629


How to donate :

BANK TRANSFER

Transfer from your bank can be made to the following banks:

Bangkok Bank Ltd.,
Banglamung Branch
Pattaya City 20150, Chonburi
Thailand
Account Name: Fr. Ray Foundation
Account Number: 342-3-04125-4
Swift Code: BKKBTHBK

Kasikorn Bank Public Co., Ltd.
Pattaya Klang Branch
336/14 - 18 M.9 Nongprue
Banglamung Chonburi 20260
Thailand.
Account Name: Fr. Ray Foundation
Account Number: 291-2-08018-2
Swift Code: TFBSTHBK

Krung Thai Bank Public Company Ltd.,
Pattaya Klang Rd.,
209 Moo 9 Central Pattaya Rd.,
Pattaya City, 20260
Thailand
Account Name: Redemptorist Fathers of Thailand
Account Number: 227-6-01534-9
Swift Code: KRTHTHBK
Routing no/chip UID: 7895


Please note, that 100% of your donation will reach the ones it is intended for.
There are NO administration fees of any kind !!!
All monies will directly go to the orphans and disabled and will be spend to feed and dress them and to give them a good education.

Father Ray, who founded and supervised the orphanage, has died on Aug. 16th 2003.and Fr. Philip Banchong Chaiyara took over.

Help if you can, even a bit is better than nothing !!!
Don't forget, it's Xmas
Thank you

Zos68
12-18-04, 07:33
Hi Guys,

I posted in the trip plan thead but thought I'd put a note here as well.

My next trip is booked from the 8th to 20th Jan. I was just wondering if anyone else was going to be around in Pattaya at this time? A couple of beers and a chat with other forum members would be great.

PM me or post on this thread.

Also has anyone ever stayed at Siam Bayview Hotel. Did a search but couldn't find it anywhere on the forum?

My choice of destination was made by fairly extensive reading of the board and the feeling that I could not, in any real capacity, comment on anything until I've seen Pattaya.

But then again, someone going to a place for the first time will often give a different report than someone who lives there.

Zos

Gus69
12-18-04, 19:10
Zos,

I have not stayed at Siam Bayview, however i believe that they charge an extra 600 baht if you take a guest back with you, even if you have paid for a double.

The Montien is the same.

What you will be best to do is e-mail a Hotel direct and ask them what their policy is regarding guests.

Coupler
12-18-04, 22:23
Also has anyone ever stayed at Siam Bayview Hotel. Did a search but couldn't find it anywhere on the forum?Yes, I stayed there once and only once. The rooms there are way overpriced. You can get the same quality rooms at other hotels for half the price.

And Siam Bayview is not guest friendly. They charged me 300 baht per guest.
This may be isolated, but one of the desk clerks kept bugging me to go to a disco with him (I think he was gay).

One time he even called my room after a guest left. I'm sure he was keeping track of me.

This hotel is not worth it by a long shot.

Gladiator
12-19-04, 01:17
I've stayed at the The Siam Bayview and it is not GF: they charge a joiner fee.

Mongers should avoid this hotel, unless they don't mind being ripped off with joiner fees.

Draco
12-19-04, 02:58
Hey Mannga,

Was in Pattaya in Oct and found a number of bars that had some nude dancing. Some places have it regularly, others need to keep watch for local police and hustle the girls off when the waring is signaled.

A couple along beach street - by soi 13 and soi 13/2, then several on Walking Street. My guess is that most of the gogo bars on Walking street will have some nude dancing. I saw at least 6 places.

Enjoy, and be safe.

SexReview
12-21-04, 03:16
vegas posted :
...what is minimum age that is safe to play with. had many girls
want to go with me that was under 18 but i was chicken about
getting in trouble....."

from your handle it seems you are from the usa? if so federal law in the united states makes it illegal to travel another country for sex with persons under the age of 18. on the thai side a thai is a adult at age 15, but they are not allowed to work in the bars until age 18, and not allowed to enter bars and discos (unless employed by club) if **** 20.

in practice the thai police will always go after anyone who goes with a person under 15 years old and if any person goes with a sex workers who is 15 to 17.

also remember that the thais like all asians add a year to their age, a girl who turned 17 yesterday will say she is 18 today. they round up to the next year.

the best thing to do is check id's and if you don't read thai stay with girls who are 19 and older.

on another note pattaya is too crowded right now, to many families walking around the city, but that will be the norm for the next few months.

sexreview

Daring Mood
12-21-04, 04:09
I have seen many posts across Asia requesting information on Cialis and Viagra pricing.

Can you PM the price you paid in Bangkok (exact location), and Pattaya (exact location), and Chang Mai (exact location).

When I have received your input I'll post a table of prices versus HK, China, and if poss Manila?

Cheers,

Daring Mood

MarcoStraight
12-21-04, 12:32
One week in Pattaya now....Situation's better than last year.Many girls and less foreigners.Soi 6 is always perfect for a quick hit.
I've been to a new GoGo in walkin street with russian girls....Very UN-suggested.I'm sorry I'm not able to post pictures 'cause I'm writing from public computer, if someone knows some discret Internet cafe in Pattaya please let me know.I met most of my old sweeties...including Na, I guess It was not a good idea to let the members know where she lives...She's so damn busy :( :( :( :( :(

El Culion
12-21-04, 14:11
Marcostraight,

There is an internet cafe in the open space that runs from Beach Rd to Second Rd (off Soi 11), opposite the Apex Hotel with private booths.

Quick connection and friendly staff.

Enjoy yourself!

Gladiator
12-21-04, 21:34
What are the prices for barfine, ST and LT at that Russian go-go? How is the level of quality?

When I was last there in April the Russian freelancers I saw were crap, 5-6 on the Richter scale of beauty at best, not really worth the extra bahts.

RasSpewtin
12-22-04, 00:18
Daring Mood:

Viagra costs me 500 baht for a 4-pack of 100mg tabs from any of the drug stores on Sukhumvit near NEP in BKK.

I can get Vitamin V for a better price in Pattaya. I don't know the name of the store, but here is how to get there. Walk along Soi 13 towards Second Beach road. Do not cross Second Beach road. Walk to your right, and it is the first drug drug store on the right. I have paid as low as 1200 Baht for 3 packs of 4 100mg tabs.

Raz

BKK Dreaming
12-22-04, 00:42
Indian Viagra - Penerga is 400-500 baht for a 4-pack of 100mg tabs

its not the USA "official" Viagra , but seems to work as good.

Horatio
12-22-04, 04:00
The Russian bar Las Vegas is not worth the money. The women are not very attractive, the beer prices are high, and the show is boring. Half the time the woman dancing on stage gets off stage and goes around private dancing at the different tables so there is no one on stage and nothing to watch except other bar patrons. This is all just imho of course.

Horatio

LOS Traveller
12-22-04, 17:07
One week in Pattaya now....Situation's better than last year.Many girls and less foreigners.I was just wondering WHICH Pattaya you are referring to. I live here and there are more foreigners here NOW than ever.

Even KFC is full every night. That should account for something.

Last night, Peppermint was 90% full by 8:30. On a big Tuesday night, everything was filling up. Diamond full (no seats) 9:30-10pm.

There ARE plenty of girls however.

El Culion
12-23-04, 22:44
LOS Traveller,

Remarkably, I was also puzzled by MarcoStraight's remark, but decided to give it a go when I read it. I was in LOS from 18th Nov till 17 Dec and spent my last two weeks in Pattaya.

I noticed that the pickings for GOODLOOKING young girls became smaller and smaller during the latter part of my stay there. Until about 12 Dec it was fairly easy to find a bedmate, but in my last week in Pattaya I often returned unaccompanied to my hotel owing to the lack of stunners (why fly more than 11 hours to make do with an average girl?).

I know from experience that Pattaya is flooded by mongers during Christmas/ New Year, but I hadn't expected it to start as early as mid-December.

Sting
12-25-04, 15:00
What is true now?
Are there many foreigners in LOS ?
Are there many beautiful girls in LOS?
Is it less in comparsion to last year?
Are there any changes ?
What's up there?

The prices are the same...

Give us a true statement...

Thanks a lot

Sting

Adjarn
12-26-04, 05:52
Hey guys,

I just wanted to let everyone know that one of my good friends is a pharmasist in Thailand and if you're buying a 4 pack of 100mg for only $400-500 bt it is without doubt a copy. His cost is about the same, so they couldn't make any money this way. However, he's also shown me several copies of Viagra being sold throughout the country, from places like India, etc. According to him, they're all fake and contain no medicine, so if you're getting the copies your also getting the placebo effect. Maybe I shouldn't say anything? Most if not all of the stores that sell V will also have a picture diagram from the manufacturer that will demostrate for you how to know if it's real or a fake. Don't trust the people working behind the counter becuase if they are only paying $50bt per 4 pack, but selling them for $500 they're not going to tell you the truth, and even worse, you don't want to have the wind knocked out of your sails during the big regatta.

Adjarn

Another thing, never buy V from a larger bottle, always buy it in the four pack, the larger bottles are also fake in Thailand.

Jimmy Red Cab
12-26-04, 13:52
Daring Mood:

Viagra costs me 500 baht for a 4-pack of 100mg tabs from any of the drug stores on Sukhumvit near NEP in BKK.

I can get Vitamin V for a better price in Pattaya. I don't know the name of the store, but here is how to get there. Walk along Soi 13 towards Second Beach road. Do not cross Second Beach road. Walk to your right, and it is the first drug drug store on the right. I have paid as low as 1200 Baht for 3 packs of 4 100mg tabs.

Raz
I feel that this information in not accurate. The indian copy called Penegra may cost 500 baht but genuine Viagra will set you back 1600 baht for 4 x100 ml pills.

Gonzo2
12-26-04, 20:34
Anybody have experience the tidal wave in Pattaya beach?

What is happened there now?

NewUserHere
12-27-04, 05:32
Wondering how everyone is faring in Pattaya.

Stay safe and have fun.

Duckman
12-27-04, 07:43
Member #2533,

The Tidal wave did not effect Pattaya. It hit Phuket. Pattaya is on the Gulf of Thailand in eastern Thailand. Phuket is in the Andaman Sea off the west coast of Thailand.

SirHumpsaLott
12-27-04, 09:50
Hello all,

Been a member of this group for some time and have always envied the reports that the other members here have made, well finally, my time has come! I won't bore you with the minor details and will just get down to the nitty gritty:

Day 1: Arrived in Pattaya via Bangkok and immediately got ripped off by cab driver who charged me 2000 baht for the ride from the airport. I let him get away with it though because hotel he suggested and took me to is nice, quiet, and girl friendly (as I soon found out) overall, a real nice place not far from the action on Soi 6. Once I settled in I immediately hit the Soi 6 bars for a quick recon/lookaround. Nice, but not quite ready to settle for the first thing I see. Feeling brave and somewhat suicidal, I get one of those moped taxi dudes to give me a ride to walking street, went to Black and White bar where, remarkably enough, I meet an aquaintance of mine also on vacation here from Baghdad(where we both work). We do some small talk and he tells me about one of the girls that works there who is according to him, really nice and has a thing for Black Americans (which I am). She comes in and she is hot! Face- 8 Body - 10. I talk to her and we hit it off well, my friend barfines her for me and we leave. She asks me what I want to do and I tell her, "whatever's clever, baby." She takes me to a go go bar where she says her friend works. Nice place, lesbian shows and totally naked! Only complaint I have is that some of the girls looked REALLY young, like 12 or 13 y/o. Anyway, we watch the show and proceed to get really drunk and make out on the couch, much to the delight of a European couple who seemed to be getting off watching us. Anyway, asked the girl I was with (forgot her name) if we could bring another girl with us and she didn't seem up for it so we left for my hotel room. Got to room and she proceeded to wash me, very nice, she "smoked" me a little in the shower then we hit the bed, ok, short version, she banged me all night, every position, even tried anal( I was too big),I popped about 5 times that night and she was always wanting more, I'll try and bread it down into WSGforumese; DATY, BBBJTCIM (twice!), GFE, and I'm sure some other things that I can't remember right now. Basically, totally awesome! She even washed and "smoked" me again in the morning! Afterwards, she never asked me for any money but I gave her 300 baht for cab and she seemed pretty cool with it.

Overall great first day! I have actually been here about 4 days now and have had about 8 women since the first one and will try and regale all you fellow mongers out there with the details and hopefully will be able to post some pics soon.

Till next time!

Sirhumpsalott

Duniawala
12-27-04, 17:13
"Afterwards, she never asked me for any money but I gave her 300 baht for cab and she seemed pretty cool with it. "

I am glad you had the time of your life and you sure mumped a lot. But please remember, that these girls are out to make a living. She may have been polite and may have been cool with it, but in the end it seems you just ripped her off. 1000-1500 B would be the norm.

Sorry, but actions such as these, makes the rest of us look bad. IMHO.

Joe Zop
12-27-04, 17:37
I agree with Duniawala -- you're fine with getting gouged by a taxi driver who does nothing special but then basically stiff a hot girl who bangs you to death all night? (You gave her, what, 15% of what you gave the taxi driver who you know was ripping you off? Just a bit more that the bar fine your friend paid? Hope she didn't need to take a cab too far...) Jeez!

As far as seeming fine with it -- most TGs are too polite to call Cheap Charlies that to their faces unless they return looking for more.

The Traveler
12-27-04, 20:51
Afterwards, she never asked me for any money but I gave her 300 baht for cab and she seemed pretty cool with it.

sirhumpsalott,

I absolutely agree with Joe Zop and Duniawala, best would be to go back and pay her the missing fee. Find some excuse - like she fucked your brains out or you hadn't had enough cash with you - to save face.

I doubt you will be able to pick any of her friends. Try to be fair and not a cheap charlie. Hope you have been more generous with the other 7 girls.

JuiceSpike
12-28-04, 00:28
Duni wrote:

"Sorry, but actions such as these, makes the rest of us look bad..."

Speak for yourself :D...:)

Makes us look bad? How? Just because the girl accepted a 300bt as compensation he commited a fraud? No, if she had said 1,000bt for the night and he did not pay then he is a scumbag. But that was not the case. He got a good deal. Maybe she made a bad decision but all is fair if both parties agree. And she did. Maybe she is new.... well, leave and learn.

You guys forget quickly how many newbies get ripped off upon entering the scene without knowing what to do when a girl asks for more than it should cost.

Fair is fair.

juice

SirHumpsaLott
12-28-04, 02:53
Just for the record and what you all who have a problem with the girl only getting 300B for are failing to take into account is that IT WAS MY FIRST DAY! Jeez, you all think everyone who comes here is some sort of pro at this or something? Matter of fact, I WAS kind of pissed at the cab driver but what was I going to do about it? I didn't find out about how much it really cost to get a ride from the airport to Pattaya until after the fact. Anyway, I was too tired to care and frankly, just wanted to shower and get on with the mongering. As for the girl, well if I shortchanged her in any way it was not intentional. To me, 300 of any currency sounds like a lot and she DID seem pretty cool with it but if it will make you all feel better, rest assured that I have indeed paid considerably more for the girls that I have had since so I'm sure your image as a respectable, well paying, monger remains intact. I have now been here 4 days and have heard a range of prices from different girls from as low as 300b to as high as 2500B so you tell me who to believe. The sky seems pretty much the limit here with these girls and their prices. Anyway, I saw the girl again last night and gave her some more money and she did not even know what I was giving it to her for so I really doubt she was as bothered by it as some of you initially thought.

Will return later with reports on days 2-5 later.

Peace













I agree with Duniawala -- you're fine with getting gouged by a taxi driver who does nothing special but then basically stiff a hot girl who bangs you to death all night? (You gave her, what, 15% of what you gave the taxi driver who you know was ripping you off? Just a bit more that the bar fine your friend paid? Hope she didn't need to take a cab too far...) Jeez!

As far as seeming fine with it -- most TGs are too polite to call Cheap Charlies that to their faces unless they return looking for more.

Joe Zop
12-28-04, 04:11
C'mon, Juice, nobody's saying he's a scumbag -- far from it -- only that paying 300 baht for LT for a bar girl you're more than happy with is far from being "fair." Your point is well taken that newbies often pay too much, but they are also often frequently jumped for that on in this forum, and if it's fair to point out that someone paid too much then it's gotta be fair to point out the opposite. It's not condemning sirhumpsalott, only pointing out a newbie misstep. From what I recall, 300 baht would certainly not be the amount you would give a TG who doesn't mention money...

Duniawala
12-28-04, 15:40
Juice, I am sorry but I did not mean to include you in the lot. :-)). I also did not mean to hit Sirhumpsalot that hard. As he says in his own defense it was his first time in the land of honey and juice (pun intended?). Having said that, it seems to me there are a few conclusions I might draw.

1. He da very very hansum man.
2. She just wanted to get laid very badly and fuck the money.
3. 300B sounded a lot. He had been so mightily fucked that he had temporary blackout on the currency exchange rate.

:-))))

Peace and may you all have mighty fucking new year!!!

Titi Tigas
12-28-04, 17:35
I will be in BKK on business in March, and want to go to a nice resort first (bringing a girl from BKK with me, of course!). I am looking for the VERY best in snorkeling, sailing/kayaking/canoeing, restaurants (preferably buffet), etc. Bungalows or water cottages would be preferred; crowded beaches are to be avoided. Quality, not price, is the only consideration beyond the establishment not objecting to my bringing a Thai GF.

I am guessing that Samui is better than Phuket or Pattay for this, given the terrible tsunamis. Is that true? What do people recommend for resorts?

The Traveler
12-28-04, 19:50
sirhumpsalott,

neither Joe Zop, nor Duniawala or I tried to say that you are a scumbag, just pointed out that the trade wasn't fair and payment far below going rates, which are :

500-1000 ST bargirl and freelancers
1000-1500 ST gogo girls

1000-1500 LT bargirl and freelancers
1500-2000 LT gogo girls

I really don't see a reason why a gogo girl should get more but those are the going rates. Sure, everything is negotiable and you are right in what you say that only the sky seems to be the limit if you ask the girls.
Also keep in mind that they often ask for outrageous amounts if they do not like to come with you. I would avoid girls like that, even though they would come with you if you accept the price, it won't be fun.

If you did it without intention everything is fine. Anyway, I don't believe to look bad just because someone else pays less. It only makes me look better :)

The Traveler
12-28-04, 20:03
...
You guys forget quickly how many newbies get ripped off upon entering the scene without knowing what to do when a girl asks for more than it should cost.

Fair is fair.


Juice,

the fact that newbies often got ripped is no excuse if someone is ripping off the girls by intention - which obviously wasn't the case this time.

An eye for an eye ? Everything could be justified by that, even murder (I know it's exaggerated).

You know 300 isn't fair for a girl who fucks your brains out all night long and you would never pay less like that. You also know that many girls - newbie or pro - are often just too shy, polite or whatever and do not ask for money or complain about bad payment. We want them as nice as that and not battle hardened pros.

I agree it doesn't makes us look bad, but these kind of experiences will change the girls attitude as it would change ours as well. You know that.

PosterLion
12-28-04, 22:36
Guys... (Not to sound like SA, but I do like his simple introductions),

The price of a lay is the price of a lay. Aloe Ha and all that shit.

300 baht or 3000 baht is not a problem as long as no one goes home in a bad mood. Sometimes you can get laid for free, is that a crime?

Is this world becoming so narrow that a free phuck is considered unfair? Are we on the verge of legislating love?

Please don't inundate me with emails that state how love is already legislated, I know that. But Jesus H Christ! Are we also going to bring fair and unfair to the free market BOOM BOOM rythms of P4P sex?

If she smiles and leaves it is acceptable. If he smiles as he looks at his much lighter wallet it is also okay. There is no perfect market (thank GOD!).

I count on that, because it is my lifeblood. Buy low and sell high is what I say. Fuck all those that can't accept reality. :)

Fuck them softly and respectably or course, but fuck them nonetheless.

poster

Magic501
12-29-04, 00:09
Amen, Brother Lion, amen!

Coupler
12-29-04, 01:08
Guys... (Not to sound like SA, but I do like his simple introductions),

The price of a lay is the price of a lay. Aloe Ha and all that shit.

300 baht or 3000 baht is not a problem as long as no one goes home in a bad mood. Sometimes you can get laid for free, is that a crime?

Is this world becoming so narrow that a free phuck is considered unfair? Are we on the verge of legislating love?

I agree.

If she didn't have any problem with the pay, then maybe she enjoyed it as much as he did. And I don't think she was a rookie if she was "into his type."

Some of these women are actually horny and want to get laid at a certain time of the month, even if it only gets them bf'ed and out of the bar for the night.

I'm not sure about this, but I think their salary depends on how many times they're bf'ed in a month, not just their share of that particular bf.

I think Alexander or somebody was talking about a bargirl giving him freebies a while back. Nobody criticized him.

Malibook
12-29-04, 01:17
Afterwards, she never asked me for any money but I gave her 300 baht for cab and she seemed pretty cool with it.

SirhumpsalottThere are times when the price is not established and the customer is in a position to possibly take advantage of the girl.

Even if she literally says "Up to you", this does not give you a free ticket to rip her off.

Just because she doesn't freak out when handed a very small amount is certainly nothing to brag about.

The ones who don't freak out make me feel even more sorry for them.

If the guy is simply uninformed, she should enlighten him in a friendly way.

If the guy is taking advantage of her trust/naivete, I say he is a pathetic lowlife asshole.

How would you like it if she took advantage of you and asked for a ridiculously large amount and had the support to extract it?

If you are a Cheap Charlie, you should definately establish the price so that you don't take advantage of someone or get a deserved asskicking.

Personally, I want to know what is the fair going rate and pay her appropriately based on this information and how much I enjoyed my time with her.

Malibook
12-29-04, 01:20
Anyway, I saw the girl again last night and gave her some more money and she did not even know what I was giving it to her for so I really doubt she was as bothered by it as some of you initially thought.Good for you sirhumpsalott.

Latina Passion
12-29-04, 04:00
Some not all of you guys as absolutely crazy, for coming down on a guy for getting a steal or a deal!

I was in Pattaya 01/2002 and 05/2002 and I paid 500 to 1000 Baht for all night long and no more then 1000 Baht for all day long, and my ass was 40 at the time! Trust me the girls almost enjoyed themselves as much as I did! All night or all day did include drinks, food entertainment, etc. so that added another few thousand Baht to the bill!

My point is why pay more? I'm selfemployed and for the life of me I can't remember any of my clients telling me, damn Steve you did a kick ass Job for us here is a little something extra for a fucking great ass Job!

Guys that just is not the real World, so again unless you plan on getting married to that girl why pay more? The only thing you are doing is driving up the price for the next up and coming Monger!

By the way, the girls that my cheap ass paid 500 t0 1000 Baht to, are hooking up my room, some girls and my sight seeing tour, for my return in less then three weeks!

My friends and I are having a combination Divorce party and Bachelor party, out with the old in with the new!

JuiceSpike
12-29-04, 04:03
Poster

Well said and funny...

Joe,

I always mention money before she does or in some cases I will play the "I don't understand your English" thing to see the if she drops the price a little... :D... But, many times after I fuck her well I'm still a gentleman and tip well... But not all the time... only sometimes I tip well, mostly when I'm in a good mood or feeling generous. Sometimes if I fuck her really well and she has a big grin on her face I wonder why doesn't she tip me? :eek:

juice

SirHumpsaLott
12-29-04, 09:09
First, just want to say thanks to Juice, Trav and others, for the support and info, I really am not out to rip off or cheat any of the girls here as I have been saving for this trip for quite some time and have more than enough money here to sustain my mongering so I don't have to resort to being a "cheap charlie". Now back to the nitty gritty.

Day 2 or the "Sirhumpsalott Pattaya Chronicles"

Woke up a few hours after the first girl left feeling in need of nourishment and wanting to check out the place a little more. Walked down to the Beach Road to check out some scuba prices and get something to eat. Having lunch when I decided I needed a massage and bath so got another "suicidemopedtaxi" and asked him where the nearest soapy massage was. He took me to one which name I cannot recall but sounds similar to Udon. Nice place and manager was pretty cool, only 3 girls behind the glass though, all beutiful though. Picked the 2 who looked the most of legal age and we went to the room (3,600B). Question; are all the girls here named Lek or Nam (Na?) or is that like their "stripper names" they use for us johns? Anyway, close up, they are even better looking with totally hot bodies! Both fairly petite with nice, full, lips and perfect tight little bodies with perfect tight little butts. Their english is passable so i engage them in some small talk as they strip me. Both from some village in the South and have lived here in Pattaya for a couple years. I ask if they have ever worked together and if they do Lesbian show, one says yes but I notice the other seems hesitant, guess I'll find out soon enough. So we're all naked, the water is ready, and they got the soap out, they lay me on my stomach and one proceeds to rub my back with her body while the other takes my side and starts deep french kissing me...nice. This goes on for a few minutes with them switching up a couple times then they turn me over, straddle me on my chest facing each other and then proceed to rub themselves up and down my body, all I can see is Leks ass but I can hear them laughing and giggling. They have to hold each other to stay balanced so I ask them to kiss, more giggling but then I hear them making out, I was already rock hard but now I'm near to bursting so I say that I'm ready for the main event. We get out, rinse off, dry then hit the bed, I ask them to kiss again and this time they go right to it, really making out like horny teenagers! Lek was sucking Na's tongue while Na was pinching Lek's erect nipples, not wanting to be out of the action, I started sucking Lek's nipples and Na soon joined me, we lay Lek down then I DATY while Na kept sucking the nips. I could feel leks body tensing and soon she had what seemed an intense orgasm, nearly breaking my neck between her legs! Na said she now wanted me to fuck her so we lay her down, Lek put a condom on me and held Na's pussy open while Na slowly guided me in. She was so wet, hot and tight that my little buddy felt like he was inside a wet blast furnace. As I was pumping away, I felt Lek slowly putting her finger on my anus and massage my ass, never had that done before and it felt like she was somehow making my cock bigger while it was inside her friend. Na felt it too as her eyes got wider and her moans louder. Lek was kissing my face and ears then replaced her finger on my ass with her tongue, that pretty much did it and i immediately blew my wad. I kept pumping anyway hoping to maintain my erection because I still had another girl to attend. Na felt something was different and asked me, "you finish?". I say yeah but she keeps bucking her hips against me, and rubbing her clit, Lek was still between our legs and I could feel her toungue around the exposed part of my shaft as she licked her friends puss which I could feel starting to tense and tighten as she was fast approaching climax. She soon came with such force tht her vaginal muscles forced my shrinking cock from her hot love tunnel which Lek then proceeded to kiss and suck. I guide Leks head down to her friends pussy and get her into the doggy position so that her ass is up while she is bent over eating her friend out, I'm about to enter when she pops up and insists on replacing the condom, I apologize, take the used one off and put on another one, we get back to it and I enter Lek from behind, Na is holding Lek's head between her legs, grinding her face into her now sopping bush. I spread Leks ass cheeks wide and stare at her tender little rosebud as I hump away. I guess the pounding was a bit much for Lek because she soon collapsed on her stomach with me still inside. She closed her legs and put my legs on the outside of hers and began grinding her ass into my cock as I steadily pounded, this had the effect of making her pussy even tighter around my cock. As if this wasn't sexy enough, Na turned around and started making out with her friend, the sight of those two beutiful, wet, faces in a delicious tonguelock drove me over the edge and I popped again. We then all collapsed in a sweaty heap and lay there recovering for a bit before one of them went and got a rag to wash me off with. We chatted and joked as we got dressed and then one of them asked for a tip. I ask how much and they go "up to you" (not a good thing to say in their line of work IMHO) I say screw it, it was a great experience and they were wonderful so I give them both 1000B. I had yet to read the responses to my first post so I don't know if it was too much or too little. They were both happy and judging by the hugs and enthusiastic "Sawadikaa's" cool with the tip. They each took an arm and I felt like a total Superstud as they escorted me back down to the lobby asking when I was coming back and how long I was staying.

Two pretty girls for soapy massage: 3600B
Drinks for myself and girls: 350B
Tips for girls: 2000B
Having one girl lick your ass while you are humping another: PRICELESS!

Anyway, great time so far and that was only my second day. Counting those two I had 3 girls in less than 36 hours. I have now been here 6 days and have had 7 more since! Ten beutiful girls in less than a week! Gentlemen, it just don't get any better than that! Oh yeah, it does! Almost forgot but met up with the first girl (the one people thought i ripped off) last night and we and her freind went to living dolls where, get this guys, SHE PAID FOR THE DRINKS! I told her that she didn't have to and she told me that she has money and is not poor (or something like that) I let her, afterwards we and her friend went to my hotel where we had a nice vigorous screw while her friend watched. Wierd. Afterwards, they said they couldn't stay and had to go, I again offered money and got the same sort of pissed off response about her "having money and not being poor" I didn't press the issue but gave her friend some money so they could get a taxi. I don't know what to make of this, has anyone else had this experience? If she doesn't need the money then why work in a beer bar? Anyway, really close to what I would describe as GFE.

Oh well, it's getting late and the days are short here so I gotta go. Will return with more reports soon!

Peace guys, I'm out!

Sirhumpsalott

neither Joe Zop, nor Duniawala or I tried to say that you are a scumbag, just pointed out that the trade wasn't fair and payment far below going rates, which are :

500-1000 ST bargirl and freelancers
1000-1500 ST gogo girls

1000-1500 LT bargirl and freelancers
1500-2000 LT gogo girls

I really don't see a reason why a gogo girl should get more but those are the going rates. Sure, everything is negotiable and you are right in what you say that only the sky seems to be the limit if you ask the girls.

Also keep in mind that they often ask for outrageous amounts if they do not like to come with you. I would avoid girls like that, even though they would come with you if you accept the price, it won't be fun.

If you did it without intention everything is fine. Anyway, I don't believe to look bad just because someone else pays less. It only makes me look better :)[/QUOTE]

Philo
12-29-04, 15:23
the point is that shithumpsalot has not done his homework - because it is not possible to imagine that any intelligent (may be he's just plain stupid) and informed person would pay 2000 baht for the taxi and 300 baht for the girl - and think he has rewarded the girl ...

though - when i read about the five cums - i realized that the man must have a reality problem.

what an embarrasing joke ...

(the next time i propose you pay them in bananas or grapes - your tip is about a kilogram of cali grapes at foodland - and i am sure the girl will have the decency to let you have the bananas for yourself ...)

go fuck yourself

Member #3411
12-29-04, 16:27
I am not a fucking lawyer of Sirhumpsalott but your post is very rude.

The guy posted a nice enthusiastic report about his FIRST day in Thailand and all you do is jerk off just because he paid some amounts he souldn't have paid blah blah.

Now I am sure he would think twice before sharing his other adventures with us. This is true for other newbies, like myself, as well.

So I should say, [Deleted by Admin].

Atre

EDITOR's NOTE: Posting of this report was delayed pending removal of Personal Attacks in the text. To avoid delays in future reports, please do not post Personal Attacks in the Forum. Thanks!

LittleBigMan
12-29-04, 20:21
This is not directed to Shitumpsalot or anyone else. People are funny!
My experience and opinions with Cabs or Limo are such that Limo service is a more personal service and cost more. From my personal experience I have taken a cab ride from BKK/Pattaya for 1000 baht and a Limo for 1500 baht and I usually tip a little based on several of my own personal factors.

Everyone gets taken and everyone pays their dues at some point but IMHO when I just get off a plane ride of over 15 hours, I just want to get to my final destination and get on with my schedule. I'm not rich nor am I going to get overly excited being charged 500 baht (12.00 USD ) over for a ride!
You get to your destination safe and sound and the little brain has time get out and have fun what more do you want!

On my last trip I had a friend come along ( his last time ) he is retired and gets over 200,000 baht a month for just standing around and acting stupid!
He picks on this Limo driver outside the Hotel who he feels charged him 100 baht too much on his last trip to the airport. He says its a matter of principal and I respond by telling him what principal! If you can send money to a girl after 3 days of GFE, what the hell are you getting bent out of shape over 100 baht!

I wonder where is the priority? Enjoy life!

Just my 2 cents!
LBM

Dinghy
12-30-04, 04:08
OK "Humpy" - a "quick" leson in Thai nicknames - "Lek" means - "little", "Oi" means "sweet" etc etc. Just like "other languages" Thai people tend to assign "nicknames" to people - nicknames which stick thru life. I have adopted a nickname for you (as you might note) of "Humpy".

Anyway - 1000B each for an exciting experience, huh? It's your money, but half that would have been more than sufficient. BTW - sawatdee-ka is "hello". "khop khun ka" would have been "thank you"

Philo
12-30-04, 06:45
I am not a fucking lawyer of Sirhumpsalott but your post is very rude.

The guy posted a nice enthusiastic report about his FIRST day in Thailand and all you do is jerk off just because he paid some amounts he souldn't have paid blah blah.

Now I am sure he would think twice before sharing his other adventures with us. This is true for other newbies, like myself, as well.

So I should say, [Deleted by Admin].

Atre

EDITOR's NOTE: Posting of this report was delayed pending removal of Personal Attacks in the text. To avoid delays in future reports, please do not post Personal Attacks in the Forum. Thanks!

Yes - my post is rude.

A working girl does not work because she is a sex maniac. She works because she is a 3rd world farmer's daugther with few other possibilities. Underpaying her is exploitation.

I feel sorry for girls who do not negotiate price first. And customers who do not should tip the going rate. In backyard Isaan it is B300+ for ST, in Pattaya 1000-1500 LT - and more if she has to work all nigth. As the man in question obviously has friends and other information sources - he should have known.

More important - if you are using your brain - you DO NOT pay the girl (after a long nigth's work) 15% of what you pay for the taxi for 2.5 hours.

If you find my report too rude - please consider forwarding it to the moderator 'admin' for deletion.

SirHumpsaLott
12-30-04, 10:59
All I can say is this, if you have a problem with my posts and doubt my credibility then tough titty bub. I don't know you and really don't care what you think. Maybe you have a problem with the racial aspects of the encounter(s) or are just an insecure asshole, either way, not my problem (I'm betting you're more the latter). Even though explanations have been given and restitution paid you will obviously believe whatever it is that you want. Go ahead, be an asshole all you want, from what I've seen and experienced on other forums, trolls like you are a dime a dozen but hey, what's a picnic without a few ants?


Yes - my post is rude.

A working girl does not work because she is a sex maniac. She works because she is a 3rd world farmer's daugther with few other possibilities. Underpaying her is exploitation.

I feel sorry for girls who do not negotiate price first. And customers who do not should tip the going rate. In backyard Isaan it is B300+ for ST, in Pattaya 1000-1500 LT - and more if she has to work all nigth. As the man in question obviously has friends and other information sources - he should have known.

More important - if you are using your brain - you DO NOT pay the girl (after a long nigth's work) 15% of what you pay for the taxi for 2.5 hours.

If you find my report too rude - please consider forwarding it to the moderator 'admin' for deletion.

SirHumpsaLott
12-30-04, 11:11
So now I'm paying too much? You people are NEVER satisfied! So, how about I just leave out all the payment details and just stick to the sex from here on out, if I post again at all. I may be crazy but this board sure seemed a bit more friendly before I actually came over here and started sharing my experiences. Truth be told, I've read more outrageous stuff here before than anything I've done so far. "What". "A". "Bunch". "Of". "Hypocrites".


OK "Humpy" - a "quick" leson in Thai nicknames - "Lek" means - "little", "Oi" means "sweet" etc etc. Just like "other languages" Thai people tend to assign "nicknames" to people - nicknames which stick thru life. I have adopted a nickname for you (as you might note) of "Humpy".

Anyway - 1000B each for an exciting experience, huh? It's your money, but half that would have been more than sufficient. BTW - sawatdee-ka is "hello". "khop khun ka" would have been "thank you"

SirHumpsaLott
12-30-04, 11:42
that was my point d**ckweed. since you suffer from selective reading and lack of imagination, i will re-iterate that (a) it was my first day and did'nt find out the actual price of a cab ride until later, hours after i was already in pattaya! i found out when i walked down 2nd street and saw the signs advertising 800b airport rides. (b) your whole bone of contention is based on you assuming that i actually intended to rip the girl off when i already explained otherwise. the only thing i can be accused of is not doing my homework.

oh yeah, now you also have a problem with my sex drive and the amount of times i can cum? based on that alone, you are the embarrasement here. hey shithead, not that i have anything to prove to you about this but i'm only 31 y/o and have cum more times than that from the photo section here. but obviously, you cannot and since you can't, think no one else can? what an asshole you are.

anyway, i didn't come on here to engage in senseless trollwarring so i suggest you read elsewhere so as to spare yourself any more discomfort at my level of virility and your comparative lack thereof, because if you didn't like what you read before, then you are going to hate what i have been up to since!

actually, keep reading, the thought of someone like you being insecure about someone he's never met and never will meet is quite amusing to me.

peace out, dickhead.

sh


the point is that shithumpsalot has not done his homework - because it is not possible to imagine that any intelligent (may be he's just plain stupid) and informed person would pay 2000 baht for the taxi and 300 baht for the girl - and think he has rewarded the girl ...

though - when i read about the five cums - i realized that the man must have a reality problem.

what an embarrasing joke ...

(the next time i propose you pay them in bananas or grapes - your tip is about a kilogram of cali grapes at foodland - and i am sure the girl will have the decency to let you have the bananas for yourself ...)

go fuck yourself

PosterLion
12-30-04, 12:31
Um...

Hey Guys...

Did you know that bananas cost about 20 baht per bunch? I'm talking about the little ones of course. They are yellow and they taste about the same as the big ones, but they are a hell of a lot cheaper.

There is one problem. Because they are smaller, they get ripe and spoil quicker.

Other than that, they are mighty fucking tasty! Everyone in Thailands eats them: farmer's daughters, university students, sex tourists, and there are reports that say Thaksin likes them.

Come on you guys. Lighten up. There is nothing wrong with keeping your baht in your pocket. If you don't believe me, go ask the Chinese.

Philo
12-30-04, 18:35
........

Peace out, dickhead.

........
SH

Excellent answer. You have proved your migth and virility. May I hope that your future generousity will be as big?

(Please understand that 300 baht for 5 cums is 60 baht per cum is 1.5 greenbacks per cum is stupid is cheap charlie by the definition ...)

Wish you good luck in Thailand (I think you will need it ...).

Yours sincerely

Philo

(PS. I am sorry to say this now that you have shown that you have a voice - but a man who thinks that 300 is a lot of money in any currency (3000 riel in Cambodia is 75 cents) should consider retake 4th grade math ...)

Joe Zop
12-30-04, 18:58
Sirhumpsalott:

Just to be very clear, the only reason I posted anything regarding your first night tip was because you'd noted you'd been a member for a long while and had always envied other people's reports. From that I (and I expect others) simply presumed you'd read the reports and done some research before your trip, and so was commenting on something that didn't seem to fit. You've now made clear that you're learning as you go along, as many do, and I for one appreciate your reports, hope you keep them coming, and hope the rest of your trip is as enjoyable as it seems it's been so far! I certainly meant no disrespect, and my comment was simply about fairness to someone who treated you well. I agree with you that if you're unfamiliar with a currency, it can be difficult to get your head around what things truly cost or are worth -- I usually just try to keep in mind that 100 baht is about $2.50, so 1000 baht is $25, and so on, and I look at each note as being a dollar bill of that value. So I think of the purples as $12.50 bills, the browns as double that and the little blues as a buck and a quarter. That way it's easy to keep a general sense of what you're really paying.

As far as your repeat encounter with the night's first girl, it sounds like you might have either lucked into a true gem or found someone who might be interested in playing you for the longer term/bigger bucks. Sometimes it's tough to tell one from the other, so just enjoy and be careful.

And just to clarify Dinghy's post to you: massage parlor girls get a portion of the fee you pay to the establishment, (3600baht, in this case, which probably included some baht which went to the driver who brought you there) so the common practice is to give lower tips than you would with a freelander or bar girl, who is generally only getting what you give to her. Traveler's list is a good one, as it points out that there is generally the same kind of price structure you might find anywhere, with a "going rate" for a particular situation and then people trying to move up or down the scale accordingly. Of course it can also be the old argument about whether the food at a more ritzy restaurant is truly worth twice the price (posters here who frequent the beach road girls emphatically argue no) but that's the general way of things.

And don't overly worry about people criticizing this or that -- some are trying to help, others are just sniping, as people do -- just have a good time! I for one am envious as hell, as you're there right now and I'm not, and I am happy to see your reports.

Philo
12-30-04, 19:10
Um...

Hey Guys...

Did you know that bananas cost about 20 baht per bunch? I'm talking about the little ones of course. They are yellow and they taste about the same as the big ones, but they are a hell of a lot cheaper.

There is one problem. Because they are smaller, they get ripe and spoil quicker.

Other than that, they are mighty fucking tasty! Everyone in Thailands eats them: farmer's daughters, university students, sex tourists, and there are reports that say Thaksin likes them.

Come on you guys. Lighten up. There is nothing wrong with keeping your baht in your pocket. If you don't believe me, go ask the Chinese.


Of course you are right - as always. But sometimes the girls must be defended by any (on my part stupid) means.

ph

Mangga
12-31-04, 03:21
Hey Draco!

Thanks for the happy news about girls in Pattaya still dancing in the nude! You just made my New Year!

I think I'll make the trip from Indonesia after all... wooh, can't wait...

Jakarta is one of the best places in the world for pussy, almost all inexpensive and lots absolutely free. But there is nothing to compare to a Thai go go bar with a festival of naked female flesh on show.

PosterLion
12-31-04, 07:47
Philo,

Shit... (not copying SA here)

Now you've got me feeling a little embarassed because I don't feel comfortable when I am told that I am always right. I am probably wrong more than most people on this board. Just look at the defensive nature of many of my posts (this one included). It is one of my many character flaws to think that I am usually right. It stems from certain problems I had in childhood. Hmmm... See what I mean, I'm wrong again! I've still got those certain problems and I am suppossedly an adult now. :)

To take your back and stick up for you about treating the bar girls with respect I could not agree more. I know that might not be very believable coming from a flippant S-O-B like myself but I do mean it and of course state here and now that you are not wrong for taking your position.

I have done plenty of lower-than-whale-shit-on-the-bottom-of-the-ocean things in my life and a bar girl hasn't got much on me that would make her a lower being. In fact, most of them are probably better people than myself.

Stick with what you are doing and defend those little mama's. They deserve it as much as anyone I've ever met. We are all pretty much a bucket of scum in the grand scheme of things.

I get the feeling that you and I are not so different. After all, both of us moved to Thailand and it's pretty obvious from both our posts that the dickhead did a lot of our thinking. That is why I tolerate SA and his machismo style. He's got experience and it shows. And most of what he says is also not wrong, even though his style makes it sound about as wrong as yellow rain. :)

Anyway, feel free to tell me to fuck off at this point. I didn't mean to type a message that is so long and personal, but I couldn't help it. My mind has a case of the bends today. I've been running on empty doing the forgetting things since Wednesday.

Take care and think positive! It beats the hell out of the other choices.
poster

SirHumpsaLott
12-31-04, 10:01
thanks for the kind words and info and i think you are right about the long term thing as i have now been hanging with the same girl (first one who everyone thought got ripped off) for a few days now and counting dinners, drinks, cab rides, etc, have probably spent more on her than i would have otherwise but probably less than what i would hve had i continued with different girls every day. oh well, she is a pretty cool chick whatever her motives and girl-friendly so i consider it money well spent. there are a few guys staying in my hotel who have also been with the same local girls for the duration of their stay and i can definetely understand why; less hassle and these girls really know how to take care of a guy. i had to get used to a woman handfeeding me and pouring my drinks wherever we went! going to spend ny eve with her and her friend tonite on walking street hitting the go-go's then back to my hotel to ring in the new year with her and her aforementioned girlfriend. i'm planning something really raunchy for this so stand by for the future report!

as for my somewhat smartass replies, well, i was somewhat peeved that it seemed that many here were really quick to believe that i was out to rip the girl off without giving me the benefit of doubt as it was my first day. yes, i had read the reports and in hindsight should have logged on here once i arrived to get a "refresher" course in the price/currency system here but was really excited about being here and finally experiencing it and really just wanted to get laid right away. thanks for the tip on how to manage the baht, i've found it is really easy to spend money here if you don't have a realistic idea of what you're actually spending and your system will definetly prove useful. anyway, getting behind on my reports, this is day 8 and i have a lot of catching up to do. will try do post more about days 2-7 later.

peace

s/h

p.s. how the hell do you post pics here? i have some great ones so far but can't seem to get them on.


sirhumpsalott:

just to be very clear, the only reason i posted anything regarding your first night tip was because you'd noted you'd been a member for a long while and had always envied other people's reports. from that i (and i expect others) simply presumed you'd read the reports and done some research before your trip, and so was commenting on something that didn't seem to fit. you've now made clear that you're learning as you go along, as many do, and i for one appreciate your reports, hope you keep them coming, and hope the rest of your trip is as enjoyable as it seems it's been so far! i certainly meant no disrespect, and my comment was simply about fairness to someone who treated you well. i agree with you that if you're unfamiliar with a currency, it can be difficult to get your head around what things truly cost or are worth -- i usually just try to keep in mind that 100 baht is about $2.50, so 1000 baht is $25, and so on, and i look at each note as being a dollar bill of that value. so i think of the purples as $12.50 bills, the browns as double that and the little blues as a buck and a quarter. that way it's easy to keep a general sense of what you're really paying.

as far as your repeat encounter with the night's first girl, it sounds like you might have either lucked into a true gem or found someone who might be interested in playing you for the longer term/bigger bucks. sometimes it's tough to tell one from the other, so just enjoy and be careful.

and just to clarify dinghy's post to you: massage parlor girls get a portion of the fee you pay to the establishment, (3600baht, in this case, which probably included some baht which went to the driver who brought you there) so the common practice is to give lower tips than you would with a freelander or bar girl, who is generally only getting what you give to her. traveler's list is a good one, as it points out that there is generally the same kind of price structure you might find anywhere, with a "going rate" for a particular situation and then people trying to move up or down the scale accordingly. of course it can also be the old argument about whether the food at a more ritzy restaurant is truly worth twice the price (posters here who frequent the beach road girls emphatically argue no) but that's the general way of things.

and don't overly worry about people criticizing this or that -- some are trying to help, others are just sniping, as people do -- just have a good time! i for one am envious as hell, as you're there right now and i'm not, and i am happy to see your reports.

Sting
12-31-04, 10:22
Philo,

Shit... (not copying SA here)

Now you've got me feeling a little embarassed because I don't feel comfortable when I am told that I am always right. I am probably wrong more than most people on this board. Just look at the defensive nature of many of my posts (this one included). It is one of my many character flaws to think that I am usually right. It stems from certain problems I had in childhood. Hmmm... See what I mean, I'm wrong again! I've still got those certain problems and I am suppossedly an adult now. :)

Anyway, feel free to tell me to fuck off at this point. I didn't mean to type a message that is so long and personal, but I couldn't help it. My mind has a case of the bends today. I've been running on empty doing the forgetting things since Wednesday.

Take care and think positive! It beats the hell out of the other choices.
poster


long posting lol ! Happy New Year !!! ..for all mongers!!!!

SirHumpsaLott
12-31-04, 10:30
(
PS. I am sorry to say this now that you have shown that you have a voice - but a man who thinks that 300 is a lot of money in any currency (3000 riel in Cambodia is 75 cents) should consider retake 4th grade math ...)Just can't help it can ya? For the record, I come from the US where $300US is not neccessarily pocket change, maybe to you it is, oh well, good on ya. Anyway, point is, you need to understand that not everyone here has the benefit of travelling here as much as you may have and just may need a moment to adjust to the local currency, but you in your infinite righteous wisdom and arrogant jest would suggest that they retake 4th grade math? Gee maybe you're right since I must have been sick that day they covered baht to dollar conversion. But then again, you are still operating on narrow minded assumptions regarding my FIRST-TIME, FIRST DAY ENCOUNTER! You seem to really want to believe that I intended to rip the girl off. Maybe you should ask yourself why when it has been clearly established that this was not the case.

Maybe a little introspection is neccessary guy?

Get over it and get a life,

Peace D/H

SH


Excellent answer. You have proved your migth and virility. May I hope that your future generousity will be as big?

(Please understand that 300 baht for 5 cums is 60 baht per cum is 1.5 greenbacks per cum is stupid is cheap charlie by the definition ...)

Wish you good luck in Thailand (I think you will need it ...).

Yours sincerely

Philo

(PS. I am sorry to say this now that you have shown that you have a voice - but a man who thinks that 300 is a lot of money in any currency (3000 riel in Cambodia is 75 cents) should consider retake 4th grade math ...)

FoxesHunter
12-31-04, 16:02
Hi,
I have been to Jakarta and I was so surprised about quality of blowjob of indonesian girls. Now I'd like to know if thai girls are so clever like indonesian girls. In fact I don't know if I will go to Jakarta again or I will go to Pattaya.
thanks

Duniawala
12-31-04, 16:17
Could anyone enlighten me if race, ethnicity or nationality has anything to do with the quality of BJs or fucking. Is there a statistical databas somewhere that I can look up?

My experience has been that some girls are better than others no matter where in the world i am. Am I missing something. :-(

To all, have a Happy New Year!