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cigan
12-13-03, 12:36
I've been to Pattaya once before. I was wondering if these girls are into a group thing on one girl for the right price? I will travel solo. Any idea on where to find the right BB or other places where other mongers are into this?

Thanks

MeatMan
12-13-03, 16:50
Sexreview,

From one "Baystater" to another,on Beach Rd. are they out 24 hours non stop? and,are most of them dark-skinned Issan girls?How sexy are they?

I got a Love Jones for Issan women now!


MeatMan

Freeler
12-13-03, 17:31
Tamaman,

"If any one out there is thinking of getting married and having kids, go to Thailand first and then decide."
Quote of the year:D?

BeachRoad is a 24 hour operation. All sorts from 11AM-6PM, all sorts + some that wouldn't come out into the daylight for reasons we can all understand from 6PM-2AM, then it's the same + bargirls on their way 'home', there could be a reason why they weren't picked up from the bar. From 4AM till dawn BeachRoad is not a pretty sight when druggies and drunks take over. Then it's all a bit slow until 11AM and things start all over again.
It is a place for quick decisions, blink once and your girl is gone.
BeachRoad means B300 ST and B500 LT. If you want to pay more go to a GoGo and waste your money there.

Cigan,

Everybody is into everything for the right price. So, what is your right price?

SexReview
12-13-03, 19:22
Meatman,

Just check the reports and deep snow is in the forcast for our state this wekend. Good luck trying to find anyone on the streets of Boston with all that snow. On the other hand that is not a problem know to Beach Road. I have been on Beach Road every hour of the day and night and ALWAYS their has been lots of working girls. Also no problem to find darker skin girls if that is what you want


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Sainter
12-13-03, 21:02
Last night was the most exhilarating experience in my entire life. Wondering around the beer bars solo, I eventually found my way to my favourite haunt, Tony's disco. It was around midnight, and the club was absolutely packed. I worked my way to the tables on the right side of the bar. Girls everywhere. As usual none of them approached me, probably because I look Thai + there were many farangs for the girls to entice. After about half an hour, I noticed a slight commotion on the table to my right. Two American men(soldiers I think) were having a major yelling session with a couple of Thai girls. Not wanting to get involved, I stood by silently for a couple of minutes. That's when one of the men grabbed the girl by the arm and, tried to drag her outside. Joined by a big sized German, we questioned the man as to why he was being so rough with the girl. His reply was, "These bitches won't come back with us. We want them." Stinking of alcohol, it was apparent why they had rejected them. Eventually the bouncers intervened, and they proceeded to eject the cocky bastards out of the club. The two girls were a little shaken by the incident. I then offered to buy them a drink to help them calm down. They told me that they did not want to go with those men because, not only were they drunk, they were also violent. I can't say I blame them. At this stage I wasn't thinking about anything sexual. I invited them back to my hotel for some supper. Happily they accepted and off we went. Seeing it was very quiet in the coffee lounge, the girls asked if it was ok for them to just order room service from my room. Ah, that's when it hit me. I might be in for some serious action tonight. Upon opening my room door, I was(to put it nicely) attacked. They were all over me. Kisses and tongue action all over. Wow, was I ever excited! At this point in time I didn't even bother to ask how much this was gonna cost me. Frankly speaking, I didn't quite care. The three of us ended up in the shower where I received bbbj's from the both of them. It was like something out of the movies. For the next 2 hours I had them both in every position imaginable. I was living out my fantasy. They both stayed the night and in the morning, I wanted some more action, but dare not ask. Anyway, I ended up giving them 3000 baht in total which I thought was an absolute bargain. I would have been fully prepared to give double that. Well, the girls it turns out are studying in open university and they tell me that they do this to supplement their studies. And because they don't really need the money that badly, they try to pick and choose who they go with. I must say, I grew a lot of respect for them at that moment. Key points from last night.

1) Just because men have money does not necessarily mean that they get to treat the girls like dirt. After all they're still human.

2) Sometimes the niceguy approach does pay off. I had my first threesome ever.

3) Eventhough I had sex with both of them, they wouldn't touch each other. A little peculiar I thought.

I'm back in Bangkok now. Got a couple of days here before I jet off to Amsterdam and the UK for some work. I doubt if I could have a better time over there.

Freeler, the pharmacy is opposite Nui's Club 2. Not Nut's Club 2. I misred the sign.

ChiMan II
12-14-03, 05:58
sainter,

you should be having that same experience everyday in pattaya. that is what pattaya is about. if you have money then you can have whatever you want and long as you are respectful to the woman. if tg''s are telling you they only do this sometimes. right after they try to [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) you when you took them to the room you should of known they are pro's.

Plugger
12-14-03, 09:23
Sainter, you lucky SOB. Seems like you've got the perfect life. Money and travel to the best parts of the world. Any job vacancies in your office?

Erik
12-15-03, 02:38
Sainter,
Nice story. By the way, 1500 B for LT is not an "absolute bargain" but just the normal market price in Pattaya. But obviously if you are a frequent customer of Tony's, that means you are a rich guy.
Good for you.

Sainter
12-15-03, 07:12
It's not that I'm rich. It's that I'm young, single and got nothing really to spend my money on. And Plugger, I can't tell you precisely what I do for a living. All I can say is that I'm in the tertiary education system and, part of my job requires me to travel to Malaysia, Singapore, Holland, Indonesia and the UK to discuss partnerships with other colleges.

Regarding Tony's disco, it is overpriced as hell. Heineken 190 baht, wisky 210 baht, coke 150 baht, genuine rip off. I try to have a few drinks before going in there. The club doesn't pick up until around midnight anyway.

Jaimito Cartero
12-15-03, 11:43
Sainter - I don't know why you'd be afraid to ask for more in the morning. You paid them full boat fees, plus fed them. Nothings more fun than a morning bj to get the blood flowing.

I dislike Tony's because of the deluge of advertisting they have on everything in the town. From posters on private residence doors, to many baht buses and then the rip off prices on drinks.

Meatman - I'd say 80% of the beach girls are from Isaan. About the same average as all other working girls.

MeatMan
12-15-03, 16:07
JC,Sexreview

Thanks for the info.Now"the circle" is complete!!.I arrive in Thailand in 2 weeks!Anyone wish to join a "Brotha" for a beer,I won't be hard to find.

I can't wait to get my hands on a dark-skinned LBFM

MeatMan

(the BBFM) Big Brown Fucking Machine hehe! :D

Snooker
12-15-03, 16:30
Hey Guys,

Just took a short 3 day reprise to Ko Chang. Had a great time and it was a beautiful break from the hustle of Pattaya. Not too much going on there in the way of ladies though. There are about 6 or 7 beer bars spread out on the main run a White Sands Beach road, which is the main area on the island for beach huts and hotels. There is a disco that doesn't get cooking until midnight and has some freelancers. Took a kayak trip to some small neighboring islands to snorkel and spearfish. That nigh I took a cute bargirl I picked up at KC's reggae bar on the beach, walked about 200 feet to my hut to get down. 500 bt st and 300 bt for the hut. Fucking under a mosquito net with a young nubile body, listening to the soft waves break and reggae music: priceless. Ko Chang is about 3.5 hours by car from Pattaya.

See ya.

Nailr
12-16-03, 08:15
I wanted to make a comment to a post on June 21st. It was about two British guys who have formed the biggest SE Asian group of websites in the world. The member said these guys were barebacking girls and passing on hiv. Get real, I havn't been to Thailand yet, but will be there in a month, I do have insight into the internet porn biz. I guarantee you these guys, who also bang ladyboys, but with condoms, are getting these girls tested for stds before they do this, which apparently takes 30 minutes. Don't believe at face value the text accompaning the pics, this is "organized" sextour amaturism.

These guys are making millions, no exageration, from their sites and are having the time of there lives. I envy them so much. I could easily slip into that business with the work I do at home and the ladies I know in NA. I have a respectable life and could never turn that way though.

I assure you, this is a huge buisness for these 2 guys, they are smart for starting these sites and are living the life of Reily right now. They are most likely not, and I am not a member of any of their sites, carrying anything. When they make over 3000 U.S.D. a day on their sites why would they not pay a few baht's to cover their ass's with std tests. I am surprised they don't do it all the time, the bareback is hot, forbidden in reality, which makes it all the better for porn fantasy. That is the question of question. Maybe they are one directional sex adicts, dumb fucks. I think not though.

They are a big part of why I am coming to Pattaya and they got me with all their free pics and clips that are easily found on the web. They probaby get money from the Thai Kingdom for doing this. Hell, I would love to buy them a drink when I hit Thailand, if they are out there, contact me.

Wanderlust
12-17-03, 05:05
Nailr/ ALL

If you read members comments regarding these sites that Nailer talks about you will see that both these sites are harmful to your P/C. Nailer this begs the question of why you are directing members to these sites? They are bad news and yet you neglect to inform anyone of this. You seem to praise these sites. Why?

Here's what sexreview has to say and he just mirrors everyone else's comments. "WSG Members be very careful with these sites listed here, if you log onto the sites, or even open they drop data mines into your hard drive. These small files attach to other files in your system and report back to another server. Also, known as spy ware or tracking files. The running of anti virus software will not remove them. The only way to get them out of your system is to run a spy ware program."

SexReview
12-17-03, 06:05
Why is this coming up again, the promotion of other sites within this site is banded by the rules Jackson has set here? These comments were made in June six months ago so why bring them back up?

I would much rather think about the girls from last night than this old news that is not allowed here any ways. From Classroom A Go Go here is a sweet young girl, 19, with a very nice chess and a tiny flat waist. Kaw is a real little honey, and this is were my attention will be while in Pattaya on the girls.

Sexreview

Khun
12-17-03, 11:07
"Classroom" a gogo

2 times the people at gate stopped me to enter into this gogo saying this is a member club. I requested management thru internet for membership but they say this is full. I know this is not a member club. No club in Pattaya is a member club but some clubs have some restriction for particular race I believe. Mai pen rai - Pattaya is full of fun.

Just 2 cents of my experience in Pattaya.

Enjoy...

Jaimito Cartero
12-17-03, 16:07
Khun,

Sorry you're having problems. Try dressing in shorts and have a long shirt untucked. :)

Or just go with other mongers.

Freeler
12-17-03, 16:38
Khun,

Try walking in with one of the girls that sit outside...
Or, if you have BIG guts, file a complaint with Tourist Police:D!

SexReview
12-17-03, 17:40
Never seen anyone have a problem getting into Classroom A Go Go (Soi Pattayaland II) but I have seen Arab looking people turned away at mant clubs or charged 200 baht for first drink. This is Thailand and if they want to charge you double because of your race they can and will.

Try walking in with a group of expats and you may not have a problem.

Sexreview

ChiMan II
12-18-03, 14:00
Khun,

Khun if your are having problems getting in then that is their loss. Why try to push an issue that may give you problems latter. There are so many woman here all you have to do is walk ten feet in any direction and you can find nice women. When you are in Thailand you are in another world and it is there rules and not yours.

Mongering1
12-19-03, 04:18
Khun,

I'd like to know what race you are. I'm the very average white guy. Also, there are two Classrooms, was it at 1 or 2?

While I'm talking about race, I had a very funny instance on my first trip there. I forget the name of the bar, but when a black man entered the lady I was talking to said "Oh, a chocolate man, (in a lower voice) they don't taste like chocolate." She didn't sound like she liked or disliked black people at all, but the comment had me in stitches.

Bud

Nailr
12-19-03, 07:11
Hey Guys,

Regarding my post about the two guys who run the SE Asia sites. You are totally right about virus's and spyware that comes with viewing their sites. I had to clear my entire computer and re-install all my programs several months ago, very costly, after checking them out. I didn't have an anti-virus program at the time, but installed Norton and I don't think I've had a problem since.

I just wanted to comment that pornographers don't take the risk of aids. This is well organized and there are people besides those 2 who are making money from those sites. It's not amature. I did want to stick up for them a little because I have had many hours of enjoyment viewing their free pics and clips.

No big deal, it's not like they are friends of mine. I really don't care. Just a comment. Democracy rules! Have fun all and have a great holiday. I am flying out to the prairies of Canada (that's cold shit there) tomorrow to spend it with family. Talk to you all when I return.

Khun
12-19-03, 11:22
I am south asian, may be becuase of my moustache they are affraid or I looklike terrorist. lol

However I don't care. I have my share whenever I want.

You have curisity when you are prevented to see inside.

All guys on this forum talk about Living Dolls but I could not eneter for the same reason. Mai pen rai, they loose money.

I always enjoyyyy.....

no more discussion required from my side on this issue

i just added my experience

thanks for advices

Gus69
12-19-03, 19:48
I will be visiting Pattaya for 3 nights next month, I did visit last year but I spent my time with a TG from Jomtien so I didn't really check out Pattaya to it's full extent.
We did go to tiffany show and a couple of beer bars before we had a nice sea food meal on Walking street. This time I am staying in Central Pattaya and intend to check out the town better.

Are there any 'Must visit' places or should I just 'Go with the Flow'.

TIA

Opebo
12-19-03, 20:21
Regarding discrimination, I suspect the Thais do that mostly because they assume different races dislike each other and might either not go into a bar containing other races, or get into a fight if they did. True, Thais dislike South Asians and Middle Easterns more than they dislike whites, but I wouldn't take it too hard. They don't really like any of us much. I'm just awfully grateful they keep Thai men out of the venues - or perhaps the Thai men just choose not to attend. Nothing more uncomfortable than having the local men around when you're trying to 'exploit' the local women.

LittleBigMan
12-19-03, 20:25
Khun,

Give this a try next time you have a urge to answer your curiousity. I had some friends that in the past had this problem and it work most of the time!

When you're ready to go in, knowing that someone is at the door!
when you walk up ask them quickly " is so and so working " use your standard names like Nit, Nat, Doi, this makes like you were there before. Just BS your way in !

Good Luck!

LBM

SexReview
12-20-03, 05:10
Well, it has happen again, it seems every year the greed of the Walking Street Go Go Bar owners comes out. But it is a little early this year, went into Living Dolls last night and the bar fine is now 1000 baht until midnight and 600 baht from midnight until the 2:00am close. These higher fees will stay in effect until just after the first of the year.

Dollhouse is going to the higher bar fines on Monday and the others will soon follow. This is nothing but the greed of the owners trying to keep the girls in the clubs all night so we will stay and buy drinks.

I vote with my feet and stay away from the clubs who raise their fees and go to those who keep things resonable.

Sexreview

Jaimito Cartero
12-20-03, 22:20
SR - Yet another reason to stick to beer bar girls. 1000 baht fine is silly. I don't think they realize the damage they do to themselves when they pull this crap. Unless there is so much extra demand, they're going to cut their revenue in half.

And even if they broke even (1/2 as many bar fines, twice the normal amount per barfine), the girls are going to be pissed, 'cause they're only working half as much.

ChiMan II
12-21-03, 08:26
1000 baut bar fine is just pure greed. I would never pay that when there are too many cheaper options. I know most men think with their dicks and would pay this if they really liked the girl. Especially men from Japan. If many men would pay this then this becomes a standard fee at all the gogo clubs. Thailand is just testing the waters to see how much they can get. I just hope it doesn't work.

The Traveler
12-21-03, 12:02
Field Report Part III

Had been with my chinese looking one for the last 3 nights, nice to get laid with her, but it's getting old a bit and she starts to try to play games with me. No way honey, so much meat around that can compare with you.

Yesterday was driving through soi 7 when I saw a very nice girl sitting at Winny Bar. She waved me a smile and so I stopped my bike to talk to her. She was sitting there with 3 other girls and I soon found out that one was her sister, the other ones friends.

Bought all of them lady drinks and joked around with them for a while. They were fresh from Chayaphum, arrived 4 days ago, all of them never with a farang, just sitting there to attract the customers. I didn't really considered to take any of them but during our conversation it was clear that they liked me. So I finally changed my mind and asked that little cutie if she would come along with me. First still a bit scared, but her sister and all her friends told her to go with me, so off we went.

A bit shy, but very easy to handle. She told me that she only had a 21 yr old thai BF before, so I was just the second man she had and also the first farang. Shower together and a bit foreplay and she went juicy as hell. No probs with lots of positions and long lasting sex, she seemed to enjoy it and loved it the slow way. Finally time had come to say bye bye cause I had to pick up my chinese chick. Brought her back to soi 7 and on departure I got the feeling that she was up to something but to shy to talk about. Obviously she hadn't even checked the pockets of her jeans where I had put the 1000 baht. So I called her back over and explained how the whole business works. Also told her about standard going rates and so on. Sorry guys, but I don't see why some cheap charlie or bad ass should take advantage of her nice attitude and lack of experience.

She just called me during I type that report. She will wait for me at the bar. Has to work from 6pm - 2am.

Also went out with some ex-GF which are also friends of my chinese chick. One of those I had on my last trip on a threesome, just showed me her younger (20 yrs) sister and asked me if I want to take her, even on a threesome with her. Her sister is really cute and told me she likes long lasting sex and is also very good at it - all confirmed by her older (23yrs) sister. Sounds quite promising so I think that will be the deal tonight. Have to see if anything better comes along. Will report on that.

Have fun

Joe Zop
12-21-03, 17:20
Great reports, as always, Traveler. Nothing better than getting to be the first farang for a girl who's actually up for it, as there's got to be some fantasy or taboo side of thing that can get them all excited. (Of course, nothing worse than a TG who's scared to death and can't get over it, but there are generally ways to handle that.)

Opebo
12-21-03, 20:21
Did it ever occur to you gullible chaps that these supposed 'new girls' might be telling the first fifty guys she does that each one is her 'first falang'?

The_Traveler,

Do you mean to say that this prostitute was so new that she didn't know to ask for money for services rendered? You know, the reason they go to all the trouble to move down to Pattaya from Issan is to get some relatively easy money. Its not like they come down there because they find the falang irrisitable. Charging you for it occurred to her ages ago in Isaan when she was making her plans. But it was nice of you to inform her - no doubt her friends, sister, aunts, etc, who've been plying the trade for years had neglected to fill her in. And by the way, did you pay 1000 baht for short time? That's twice the going rate, I believe.

The Traveler
12-22-03, 10:37
Field Report IV

As mentioned yesterday, I hooked up with some ex-GF and first went to BIG-C to see "Lord of the rings- return of the king". One of these girls is a real beauty and she brought her younger sister as promised, also very cute. After cinema we went to soi 8 where I finally sent my chinese looking girl back to work. Afterwards Tony's, Marine Plaza, Marine II and finally Marine Plaza Lek which stays open till 4am. Since I intended to take that couple of sisters I wasn't hunting but just a few minutes before Marine Plaza Lek closed down I spottted a real cute girl which attracted me somehow. She looked some sort of displaced, very innocent between all those hardened pro's.

Knowing that my couple of sisters will be available tomorrow as well and that they won't get pissed about not being picked by me as agreed - cause they like me anyway, I also often pay their drinks and would compensate them - I decided to walk over and started to talk to her. She told me that she came from Bangkok one week before with her older sister and that her auntie wanted her to work at her bar. She also told me that she never was working in that kind of business and therefoer never had a farang and that she broke with her thai bf about 5 months ago.
She also seemed to be scared of me. Someone has told her that farangs who talk thai are often bad in many ways. I can only guess that she referred to expats who will get cheap and taking advantage of the girls. So I tried to assure her that I am a good guy. The little beauty who came with me caught some part of the conversation and finally decided to help me out. She reassured that I am best of best (love that part :-) and that she gives a guarantee !!! that there won't be any probs or downturns. Also gave her mobile number and told her that if any prob should occur she only has to call her and that she will kick my ass then. Really funny though, imagine a girl about 1,55m, 40kg kicks the ass of a guy who is 1,81m, 82kg and did martial arts for almost 15yrs. I love that picture.

Nevertheless, that guarantee did it and she finally decided to come with me. So we went home. When picking up the key she wanted to hand out her ID without being asked, since hotel staff knows I don't like it. So I asked her why she wants to hand it over, maybe she had been with a farang before ? But she explained that her sister gave her exact instructions what to do. Real funny though. She also called her sis back to tell her where she stays and that everything is fine so far. Anyway, up the room a bit shy but no probs and here we go for the first round. Skills are average but with lots of enthusiasm. After the first shot I was tired, since I stood up early in the morning and now it was already around 5:30am. So we cuddle a bit but she never closes her eyes and constantly looking at me. I ask her if there was anything wrong and she just says that she can not sleep. First impression was that she - as many newbies - felt lost/uncomfortable in a room which does not belong to them but then she started to fondle with little Traveler. She was only horny as hell and still juicy. Hadn't had a guy for 5 months so just one round wasn't enough for her. Who am I to complain about so much enthusiasm ?
And again another round. Then we felt asleep but after a few hours I woke up and felt that she is constantly rubbing her ass against my dick. So again one more round but this time only from behind. She then suddenly grabbed my dick, put it out and moved it up a bit directly in front of her backdoor which definately surprised me. Again, who am I to complain ? Since all necessary equipment is always in reach a bit KY and here we go. Real soft and slow but then faster and harder. During all sessions she told me or directed me with her hands how to please her best. Don't know if she was just a natural talent, if her former thai bf taughed her well or if she had a past she had not mentioned. At least I don't care as long as it means fun for me.
In the morning around 11am again one more before she finally left, so I got four shots for 1000 bt LT, fair deal.

Joe Zop
12-22-03, 16:18
Opebo -- did it ever occur to you superior cynical chaps that some of us have had the "new girl" scam run on us before and have at least a vague sense of the difference between that and the real thing? Oh, wait, that's right, all teenage TGs are Oscar-caliber actresses who walk into the game already with massive amounts of experience, like magic, so that can't be true...

JuiceSpike
12-23-03, 01:20
Opebo,

I have no idea how many times you have been to Thailand but you are either a newbie or an experience jack ass.

I have met Traveller and he has plenty of experience, speaks fluent Thai plus dialects and he is an experienced monger of the scene. He knows what he is talking about.

I meet regulars girls (None prostitutes) all the time and yes they fuck for free and like to have a good time. Yes, they expect a relationship like any women in the world that gives herself would. Yes, it gets complicated and sometimes its better to pay a working girl but the sex is much better with a regular...

Yes, it is possible to find new girls coming into the business either by luck or by another girl in the biz that you trust. If you have some experience in the scene you would know if she is lying about just startin in the biz.

My suggestion to you is: come to Thailand and get laid and learn.... If you are a seasoned monger, keep learning....

juice.

Applecoc
12-23-03, 06:52
Per my newbie trip back in Feb/March:

Took the free Transport from Dynasty in Bangkok with my rented TGF. Hot mini bus ride to there Inn in Pattaya. BTW, if you stay there try to get 1st floor infront of the pool. I'm not sure what other rooms are like, but this one was huge and about 15ft from the pool. Think it cost a little over 1k bht. Also, if you stay there I'd you might think about renting a bike. I'ts uphill and aways from everything. They offer a free driver at certain times durring the day, however.

First day my TG had a friend come do our laundry. Kind of odd experience. She came back later with the clothes, on her scooter. I drove us into town in search for a motorcycle rental. BTW, me at 190 lbs and 2 100lbs TGs isn't that fun to navigate on a moped in Pattaya traffic. Although I have to say it was a fond memory, driving on the wrong side of traffic to catch the other 500 mopeds up front at the lights. Her friend took us to a place that had a Honda 450 I think, nice big fat tank. 400 BHT daily, no insurance as is the norm. Newb side note, as far as I can tell, you cannot get insurance on motorcycles in Thailand. And if they offer it I, from what I've read, it's bogus. Even the Harley rental they don't offer. But if you've the balls (or ignorance?), I'd say it's worth it to rent a bike as I had a blast and memorable experience. Nothing real exciting that night, went to some bars close to walking street and drove back.

Second day more of the same. Visited Hard Rock for lunch. Priced same as in the US. Though the staff was much more fun, and the menu is a little different. Fun stuff though.

I did enjoy my trip to Pattaya, much more that Patong in Bangkok. Although when I was there, alot of the bars were empty. Went to a couple nice Go-Gos, they seemed a little nicer and outgoing than the few I went to in Nana (not to knock NEP).

Third day, woke up late, went to Hard Rock to replace my first cap from there, then left for BKK. Applecoc out.

SexReview
12-23-03, 20:10
Well guys, looks like day time Go Go Dancing maybe is becoming a thing of the past. Two weeks ago it started with Pattayaland II, both Mistyís and Classroom were told by the police to stop dancing before 6:00pm and then the other clubs like TQ1 who has had daytime dancing for 25 years were told no more.

The dust has settled a little bit over the last couple of weeks, the clubs can open in the afternoon, but they canít dance or be on the stage. Mistyís no longer opening at 2:00pm, the new time is three with dancing at 4:00pm, Classroom still opens at 2:00pm but again no dancing until 4:00pm, TQ1 still is open at noon but again no dancing.

Hopefully this is not a permanent thing but you never know. And with the Thai Government talking about rolling the closing times back to midnight or 10:00pm thing could get even worst.

Applecoc,

Dynasty Hotels opened a new hotel in Pattaya over the summer and the location is much better. The new Dynasty Pattaya is located on the corner of Second Road and Soi 13, rates are still about the same.

Applecoc
12-23-03, 22:24
Thanks for the info on a new Dynasty. I plan to stay there in June for a few days and will check it out. I just noticed on their website it quotes 1200 bht for double occupancy. I paid 990 for a double in Bangkok last Feb. If anyone has been there recently, is this new?

Bill
12-24-03, 01:23
traveller,
your reports are getting kinda boring yawn...........

Sting
12-24-03, 05:14
hi traveller,

nice reports. its funny for me because i am so close to the action now.
however, have fun (i am sure in that)

regards

Sting

Riain
12-24-03, 05:24
Some years ago I was a Senior Engineer for an Australian company and went to Thailand often for sales support and fix it. First fix it job was near Rayong and I had to go to another project near Pattaya.

They screwed up and put me on the local bus instead of the air-conditioned express bus. 5 hours to Pattaya instead of one and a half.

However, along the way this girl moved seats and sat beside me. I turns out that we have about 10 words in common in our respective languages and do some smiling at each other. We did manage to sort out that I was going to Pattaya.

I get baht bus on arrival in Pattaya and she jumps in as well. At my hotel she jumps out and I think "maybe she lives near here".

She follows me into hotel and after I check in she shows the staff her thai ID and indicates she is with me. Sort of like a dog that follows you home. "Can I keep her?"

This is about 2pm. We go to the room and we do the deed and relax. About 6pm she indicates she wants me to come with her and we arrive at the bar she works in. We have a few drinks and she leaves every now and again to do the dance catwalk thing. About midnight she says give me 400bht and we can go now (mainly sign language), and we go back to my hotel.

During the day we do some tourist things etc.

Next night she indicates that I should stay in the hotel while she goes to work. At 2am she comes back.

The next night I leave for Bangkok airport at 4am by "limo" (actually receptionist's neighbor's brother) and she checks out with me and we go our seperate ways.

Next time I am in Pattaya I go to the bar. I am not sure if I will find her, but there she is! I pay bar fine and we go to my hotel.

Next night she goes to work without me. I always wondered what would happen if someone else wanted to bar fine her.

In about 15 visits to Pattaya, sometimes I went to her bar and sit until it closed, or other times do my own thing and she comes to my hotel after work, except my last visit to Pattaya.

Someone had taken her away for 3 days. I never saw her again (this was before the days of everyone having cell phones)

She never cost me one cent apart from food and the bar fine each time I arrive in Pattaya. It seemed to be some sort of ritual that I pay the bar fine once each trip.

Wanderlust
12-24-03, 09:41
AMEN Bil

SexReview
12-24-03, 17:27
Well, for any of you who are planning on hitting Pattaya soon and stay at the High 5 hotel corner of Soi 8 and second Road change your plans. It seems the hotel started Christmas early today with a nice little fire which killed the power to Soi 8 for most of the day.

The hotel has lots of smoke and water damage but tonight, Christmas Eve, the party goes on along Soi 8.

Happy Holidays to All,

Sexreview

The Traveler
12-25-03, 10:35
Applecoc

all motorbikes in thailand have an insurance, you have to prove that for your yearly prolongation of your license. I myself own a chopper in thailand (750cc) and always have to show them the insurance contract when I pay the tax for my motorbike. Every car and motorbike has to have two stickers somewhere, the round one is for tax, the square one for insurance. Different colours every year, so police could check if they are interested (never had them asking for it ever since even when I was overdue). Problem is, coverage is just 50.000 baht, there are premium rates but I doubt that any thai is willing to pay more than necessary for an insurance.

Have fun

The Traveler
12-25-03, 11:37
Opebo

Feel free to comment on my reports. This is an open forum and I don't mind if you like to criticize and spew your sarcasm at me. I am mature enough to handle that. You might have your opinion, I have mine, that's what makes the forum interesting. But at least I kindly ask you to read properly before issuing stupid questions. I gave even some exact timestamps so you should already know that it wasn't a shorttime.

BTW, did I ever mentioned that I believe any of those stories that a girl might tell me ?
I am only reporting what the girls tell me, others might learn from that. Having heard a story from some forum members and different opinions about them might help to understand the schemes the girls are using to look fresh to the business, selling themselves as a high value good.

Maybe I should give you some background info on me. I am travelling to thailand for 20yrs now, I am in the late 30s, still in good shape regarding to JuiceSpike, look like the young Harrison Ford if I can believe the british guy I currently hang out with (Tap, was that the name of the actor you couldn't remember when you first saw me ?) and - as JuiceSpike has already mentioned - speak fluent thai and some dialects as well (e.g. Isaan, Tin). I did business in thailand, had property and still have very good connections to high ranking police and military officers and an influential thai/chinese family. I used to spend up to 7 months a year in thailand, had some long term relationships and hundreds if not even thousands of encouters with the female part of the thai population. I have been at places you never even have heard of or would hardly been allowed to enter. I believe to have seen and heard most if not all stories and tricks a thai girl might tell a foreigner. So please accept that I am not new to the business and totally knew what I am up to.

Bottom line is, a girl might tell me a story to keep up the price but 1000 bt LT with 4 pops should prove that I did not fall for them. I know that I could have gone away with far less, between 500 - 800 would have been sufficient, but I never will be cheap. Anyway, I pay 1000 ST or even more if I am satisfied, why not. It's my money, I can easily afford it only from the interest I got from my investments in thailand. I am wealthy and being fair gives me also a very good reputation. Most girls at bars or gogos talk to each other, especially about the payment. You would hardly find any girl that would refuse to go with me again and again. I have taken many girls from the same place without ever being in trouble by doing that. I often use former GFs to get phone numbers from cute girls who currently stay with other customers or are into long term relationships. They also advertise for me at the same time and try to convince the girls to stay with me rather than with some tourist or just the looser who is with them right now. Does any thai girl do that for you without being payed for it ?

If you only come close to my experience or if you are just Mr. Wisdom, share your knowledge. Enlighten us and post some info rather than just jumping on others.

The Traveler
12-25-03, 11:47
Bil

If you don't like my reports, just skip them. Others seem to enjoy them, maybe they have heard the same story from a different girl. I always find it amusing to see how others make the same experiences I have made.

Have fun

The Traveler
12-25-03, 11:49
Sting / Sexreview

sounds that both of you are currently in Pattaya. Would like to meet up for a drink or two. Will send you my mobile no. through a private message.

Have fun

Pattaya Bound
12-25-03, 11:54
Anyone interested in a cheap flight to Bangkok? Myself and three friends are travelling from Heathrow on Thursday the 29th of January, returning back at Heathrow on Sunday the 15th February.

The flight is available due to a late withdrawal of a virgin who is now loved up with an old slapper, what a pity. He claims he can no longer afford the trip, hardly surprising after buying her five children Xmas gifts and spending hundreds on her, however he could still do it but is to loved up, it would have been a real site at nearly 7ft tall and 20 stone and still only 18 years of age, a limited IQ it would have been fun.

All offers considered, just send me a private message for exact details of the flight.

Also any members of the forum who would like to share a beer over these dates just get in touch.

Note to the editor, I do try with my punctuation, however I never used to bother with it when I was at school and as a result I have to agree with you that it is of a very poor level, almost childlike. Sorry for this.

EDITOR's NOTE: It's not hard, dude. Just capitalize the first words of your sentances and put periods and a space at the ends. Thanks!

The Traveler
12-25-03, 12:22
Field Report V

Since it's christmas and Pattaya is packed right now, I went out around 7pm for an early pick up. Relief and peace of mind for the evening/night to come.

Was walking through soi 7 and soi 8 but didn't see anything that really attracted me. Some above average girls but no real stunners or cuties around. Maybe others had been faster than me. So I walked up to the soi 9 area when one girl grabbed me to make me stay at her bar. I was kidding around a bit telling her I won't sit down since they got no cute girls. But she insisted they have cuties and suddenly a girl with an angel face came in front from the back of the bar. So I sat down, talked a bit, playing five in a row and finally told her to come with me. No questions about payment, like that. She told me that she came a month ago from Korat, parents sending her to pattaya to make some money. She already had 8 guys, mostly asian like japanese and chinese.

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Special remark for Opebo :

I didn't believe her, since she was acting too cool, got 3 tattoos, had a 1 bath gold chain with a golden heart with diamonds and also a half bath bracelet.
I always compare the told story with the things I see and hear to decide if the story might be true or not.
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She was just looking too good. Since she only does shorttime I guess that she goes at least with 2-3 men per night making good money.

At the room I made lots of photos and she was quite familiar with that situation telling me that most guys like to make some. I also asked her why only ST and she told me that she scares to have to provide to much sex if LT. One shot per ST, period. So she is smart, making most out a given situation. Attitude was much better than expected since she got warmer the closer we came. Told me she might reconsider and stay LT with me, gave me phone number and will see if she is just trying to trick me. Anyway, she was a real nice christmas present for me.

That girl named Beem can be found at the Honey Pot. Will post a pic when back home which does not really catch her sweetness. Real angel face, 1,68m tall, 50kg, fair breast size which she like to squeeze during intercourse.

After that episode moved on to hook up with a british guy I met and around 6 of my ex-GFs to party. Went to Tonys, was packed, saw again a girl that constantly refuses guys. Talked to her and got her phone number to make an appointment later on. She told me that she only goes with men when she wants to and she really can choose them.
Afterwards Marine Plaza till 4:30am and then Marine Plaza Lek till the early morning. But nothing to my taste. Had fun anyway.

Merry X-Mas

HotSam
12-25-03, 14:50
i was in Pattaya only 2 nights last time (i travelled from Bangkok
to Ho-Chi-Min by land) and, coming from Cambogia (not funny and
very cheap) i had 150usd/night to spend :)). It's not so easy in
Pattaya, but i tried.... hotel: Honey Inn in soi 11 (good, with
a nice pool) - 450 bath for a big room, aircon, tv sat, hot water.
Day: sleeping, swimming and drinking beer in the pool area
Nignt: starting at 7,45pm at Peppermint (Walking S) -
5 beer (40bath x 5=200) 3 lady drink (85bx3=255) some 20bath balls (20bx3=60) - total 515 bath = 13 usd (funny and cheap!!!!)
ok, i looked for spending my usd!!!!
Bar (i didn't remember which one) only one beer (70 bath), not
funny - 2 usd
Go-Go bar (Dollyhouse????) 2 beers (total 100 bath) and 2 lady
drinks (200 bath) = 300 bath = 7.5 usd
barfine a nice girl 500 bath = 13 usd
long time = 1500 bath = 38 usd
total = usd 73.5
too hard to spend 150 usd, i stopped
The girl was incredible: starting ad 11pm, i put her out of the room
at 4.00am!!!! I wanted to call the police: she forced me to have sex with her too many times!!!! :)
And it was only the first night......
The second, i did the same, and i found a girl....a real pornostar!!!!!!
Please, answer me: every girl is like those in Pattaya or i was
lucky???????
bye
Hotsam (going to Africa or coming back to Brazil)

Diver69
12-26-03, 04:40
so, after a couple of days in bkk, i took the bus to pty.

i must have taken a private bus at the eastern bus terminal - i was waved to board a bus that was just leaving the terminal. thiking goo, this will get me there faster, i hopped on. the freaking bus was stopping at every wave of a hand, and about an hour into the trip, the a/c broke, and then, they stopped by the side of the road, and loaded everyone into another bus with standing room only.

anyway, finally made it to pty, and shared a baht bus with a farang couple. got a room at one of the sawasdee hotels. it was ok. but i found a better one and moved on the 2nd day.

i was so beat, i just slept the 1st night.

day two - went to the mall (marine plaza i think) - couldn't find any of the chicks that other wsg'ers mentioned could be found in the mall. so, basically just hanged out and rested. on my way back to the hotel, walked by this massgae place that's right beside the hotel. was enticed in by the girls sitting outside. went in, the place looks like a a real massage place, with the mattresses on the floor and only curtains as separators between customers. but i was the only customer there. my masseus (sp) was a girl with a cleft (sp) chin. a little round, but good fuck none the less. i kinda enjoyed fucking her on the mattress with only a curtain around us - the thought that anyone walking by could hear us and can peek in was kinda exciting. paid her 700b plus 300 for the massage, which was quite good.

checked out the scene on the beach around 8 pm or so...saw a few sw that i was kind of interested in, but decided to check out walking street before choosing my girl for the night. couldn't find anything spectecular on walking street, so, walked back the beach walk. that's when i saw dan. walked up to her and said hi. and here's where i love about pattaya - you know why she's there and she knows why you're there. it's none of that barfine, lady's drink bullshit. hi, how are you. sit down please (on the bench), you do short time? how much? 500b. great, let's go.

walked back to hotel, she claimed to be 18. she does look young and you gotta see those lips of hers.....i can still feel them on my cock. anyway, after shower, it was suck and fuck time. she was an ok fuck. but i tell you, youth has its advantages...the tight body and pussy....snapped a few pics of her (clothed) after the deed and sent her on her way. told her i'd look her up the next night.

you can find her standing by the beach just south of the mall.

next night, same drill, went to the beach and purposedly avoided where dan was coz i wanted to try someone else. found nong a bit north of where i found dan. nong is 26, but has a pretty face and skinny body. same thing, hi, what's your name blah blah blah. 500b s/t. average fuck, but friendly.

you can see pics of dan and nong at my site

ca(dot)groups(dot)yahoo(dot)com*******diver69a/

now folks, i've tried several place in asia, including kuala lumpur and tawau in malaysia, bkk, chiang mai, chiang rai, tachilek in burma, danuk in thailand south, hat yai, cebu in philippines, china, macau, but i really really really like pattaya. i especially like the beach sidewalk scene. it's cheap and it's easy. now, some of them you wouldn't touch with a 10-foot pole, but there are some lookers to be had there.

check out my other reports in:

malaysia - kl
hat yai, bkk
phi - cebu
china - shenzhen

unfortunately, i'm back in the real world now and won't be in los until later this yr, and even then, it'll be a family trip and i may not get the opportunity to monger.

have fun.

Dinghy
12-26-03, 16:37
Diver - you fell into the trap of getting on the first bus leaving Ekkamai with the tout yelling "PATTAYA". IF you don't go INSIDE the terminal and get a ticket (different bus line, actually), you get the "local but gets you there" bus that takes _4_ hours to get there - _2_ hours on the non-stop. Did that my first trip, too, so you're not alone. When you return, go to the bus station on North Pattaya road and get a direct non-stop ticket (oh, yeah, it costs about 10B more. 55555 (laughing in Thai - "ha" is 5) saves a LOT of time, runs last bus north at about 8, I sort of remember)

Bizzie
12-28-03, 07:16
No rooms in Pattaya...
After several unsuccessful atempts at finding a hotel in Pattaya (both before arriving in BKK and from BKK), decided to just get to Pattaya and look for a hotel there.
Taxi cost= Bht 1500, including tolls. May be a bit much, but the driver drove me around Pattya to different hotels, so it's OK>
No rooms at both Flipers and both Eastinys, and a couple of others.
Then stored my bad at the Flipper Lodge and took of down Soi 8 on foot.

The Sunshine Hotel & Residence had a Superior room in the new wing for Bht 1600.
Was in no position to negotiate or try any other hotel so booked 2 nights.
The hotel room was actually disappointing. Nothing more than a cheap Motels that we see in the USA.
Room was big but had a stale smell and was the only room available. No alarm clocks in any of the rooms.

You can blame the room shortage on holidays and the Europeans. Didn't hear/see a single American!

Bizzie
12-28-03, 07:38
First night in Pattaya and no sex?
Yes. That's exactly what hapened. Didn't see anything enticing at the beer bars on Soi8, but didnt stop long enough too get a good look.
Headed to Pattayaland 2 (non-gay section). Lots of go-gos, bi\ut didn't see the one I was looking for, Dollhouse (I am not sure why I was looking for that one).
So headed down walking street...Whooaa...Bunch of bars and go-gos.

Walked past Tony's. Wait a minute, there are 3-4 Dollhouses or Baby Dolls or the original doll and the like.
I was alone (no buddies) and was kinda getting bored.
After watching a bit of thai boxing outside the Peppermint (Go-Go), went up the escalator to the bar.
Bunch of decent looking girls. The BEST part was that they were actually performing chreographed/themed shows.
Started to enjoy myself. One show where a "master" (tall, dark TG) is whipping two cute/petite "slaves".
She was actaully striking the girls with her whip with enough force to cause pain/marks on the skin. I could see it clearly as I was sitting right by the stage.

After seeing several exotic performances headed out and visited a couple of the "Doll" places (dolhouse, baby dolls).
There too the performances followed some theme and were choreographed.
None of that useless shuffling of the feet that I had seen in BKK. These girls were actually enjoying themselves. And many were topless and/or even without a bikini.

I was enjoying myself thorouoghly and was so caught up in the shows, that I forgot that I had to barfine one of the girls.
When I realized and looked around, it was 1:30 am and most of the girls that I would have liked to barfine had gone.

Well, had no regrets in going home alone. A throughly enjoyable experience, with NO sex.

SexReview
12-28-03, 10:32
Badass,

You have now found out as I had said several months ago that going to Pattaya without booking a hotel between Christmas and New Years is taking a risk. Hotels here run at close to 100% during this time. About the Americans, were you in the same Pattaya that I have been for the last month? Lots of Americans can be found everywhere here. Just walk down Soi 8 and you can't help but run into several fellow Americans.

The girls have been uncovered here for a while now, the covers went on just before the Queens Birthday and came off around the time APEC hit Thailand. So only about seven weeks of no showing here which is not really that bad.

Only three Go Go Clubs are now using Dolls in their name, Dollhouse, Living Dolls (AKA Living Dolls I) and Living Dolls Showcase (AKA Living Dolls II)

Hope you enjoy your trip.

Sexreview

HotSam
12-28-03, 16:05
I was many times in Thailand. In my last trip i travelled from Bangkok to Ho Chi Min City (most time in Cambogia).
My personal opinion (1 to 10)
Thailand Cambogia Vietnam Philippines
Hotel(pr/quality) 6 8 8 6
Girls (beauty) 8 6 6 7
Girls (price) 6 8 7 7
Girls (Quality) 9 6 8 7
Rest.(pr/quality) 8 6 8 7
Funny life 9 5 7 7
People 7 8 8 7
Transport 8 5 7 7
Beach 9 8 7 9
Day's cost in USD 60 35 45 45
(room aircon - breakfast+lunch+dinner in typical rest - some beer
and 1 good looking girl for 1 night)
I 'm looking opinion and comparisation about Burma.
Thanks

Applecoc
12-29-03, 04:45
The_Traveler,

Thanks for the info, though I don't quite follow what you're saying. While trying to rent a bike, I haven't found a place that offers insurance on it. Rather, if I had an accident I would be paying out of my own pocket, to repair the bike,in leu of an "insurance" company, like I am accustomed to back in the States. Although, the Harley rental requires a decent deposit, I assumed you would still be required to pay for any damages or for a stolen bike. Anywho, from asking around, I found no places that offered insurance on the rentals. To clarify, I asked specifically I could purchase insurance to cover the bike. They generally smile and give a resounding No. If you have additional information on this, I'd be interested in it.

Thanks.

Ciao,

Applecoc.

The Traveler
12-29-03, 12:00
field report part vi

went out as usual for an early pickup at around 7pm. checked out the naklua bar scene, soi 2, soi 6 - soi 9. no cute girls at all, guess i am too picky. spent the night as usual with meeting friends, party till the morning and always on the hunt. all good looking girls - there seem to be only a few around - are already taken, mostly for more than just a day. so nothing to my taste.

when i finally decided to go home i saw two cute thai/chinese looking girls i had never seen before, quite tall, nice clean skin, white, dressed very well. they didn't fit into the pattaya ho picture and i thought they might be students from bangkok, spending a few days at the seaboard. as i intended to approach them a bunch of young french guys jumped on them so i thought they are taken and headed for my chopper. just when i took off with my bike i saw them again without any guys and so i asked them in thai to come along. they just looked at me and seemed not to understand me at all. so i asked them again in english. they were whispering to each other something in chinese which i couldn't understand and finally asked me in perfect english where i would like to go with them. i just waved a smile and told them "up to you". they got the message and seemed to like the idea of sharing the night with a white guy. later on they told me that they were from singapore and came to pattaya for a few days to have some fun. and we really had a lot of fun. no bj, but great hj and fs. they seemed to be bisexual since they turned on each other as often as they could. great end for an almost lost night and also for free.

next day almost the same story. went out early but couldn't find anything till 10 pm so i called tuk, the girl from tonys who selects the guys she goes with rather than being selected. she agreed in meeting me and told me to get ready. half an hour later she called me back, saying that when she took a shower she acknowledged that her period had just started but she will make good for it in about 4 days. so again changing back to hunting mode but all nice girls seem to have been taken. checked out all the gogos at walking street, diamond gogo, superstar, superbaby, living dolls, happy gogo and so on, you name it. but nothing to my taste. only superbaby had a nice one, oy #18, tiny cute girl, but she only wanted to go st so no deal. living dolls showcase has a few hotties but i am not willing to pay 1000bt barfine. i will rather overpay the girl than the bar. i just don't see the point why they raise the barfine.

went to marine and marine plaza but no success. many girls there muslim styled, blond hair and a bit chubby or too much make up. nothing to my taste so i finally headed to soi 8 for some rice soup and checking the left overs or returning girls. just when i turned into soi 7 i saw that very young girl i had taken a few days ago with one of her friends. so i asked her if she want to come with me, bringing her friend along. answer was "yes" and after having some food we headed home. both a bit shy but still a nice threesome. very juicy, like that. no interaction between both but nice constant changing between them. did both twice and finally slept between them. in the morning (or better early afternoon) one more session with each of them before final goodbye. again night was rescued by a nice circumstance. hope my luck will not leave me in the future.

walked down the beach from soi 8 to walking street to check the beach scene. it can be described with one word : crap.
97% of the females (not girls anymore) are just ugly as hell, far beyond everything i would consider to take with me and even to pay for it. another 2% are katoeys and 1% seemed to be ****d girls. one of them quite nice but far too young. had that girl from soi 7, also ****d, but fully developed. anyway, i am not up to something like that. that's for the perverted.

pattaya is packed right now. juicespike asked me to get a room for him since all hotels seem to be fully booked. checked almost all hotels at the beach strip in his mentioned price range but no way to get a room before jan 10th. will try further, maybe in the jomtien area there will be some rooms available.

have fun

LittleBigMan
12-29-03, 20:45
Applecoc,

In general, most rental do not carry the insurance, from what I understand about accidents, please someone correct me if I'm wrong, is that if you are not a local, whether the accident was cause by you or not, most likely you will be blame for it! It helps if you have a Internation driver license. Good for 1 year and it can be used for an I.D.

Concerning insurance, I saw a rental place, advertising insurance, behind the Big C. Central Pattaya!
Take second road and head north, just before the Big C, there a soupie massage ( Sabai ) make a right, go down to the end and make another right, just before your next right there are signs up on polls indicating bike rentals and insurance. Now whether they rent anything other than 100cc, 110cc, or 125 cc, is beyond me.

In Pattaya, I see no reason to need anything bigger than the above mention size! Accept for ones ego! IMHO! Get the buzz
off with the women! Although, Traveler seem to have done well with his chopper and the girls from Singapore.

Good luck!
LBM

Bizzie
12-30-03, 10:21
Hey SR,


You have now found out as I had said several months ago that going to Pattaya without booking a hotel between Christmas and New Years is taking a risk.

I remeber that, and tried a bunch of hotels before leaving for LOS, but none of the hotels were willing to book for only 2 nights between christmas and New year.
I could have gotten a room at Marriott or Hard Rock, but they are apparently not friendly.

Rolling my large pieceof luggage down Soi 8, in front of hundereds of Bargirls, and their offers to take me in, was an adventure in itself!

And as I posted earlier, although the sole reason for my goign to Pattya was find some of the chicks you guys always mention, but I had a very enjoyable night, without even barfinig any of the dancers.

Conclusion: Should have concentrated on staying longer in Pattaya and shorten the stay in BKK. Well, you live and learn.

More reports and pictures to follow...

Lee Bog
12-31-03, 04:29
Motorbike Rentals with Insurance

Applecoc,

I used Maipang in April 2003. Had a good experience with them. I dealt with a Thai guy named Jong. He had an English friend named Steve who owned (owns?) a small place called the Alloy Bar. Gave me lots of good info, helpful for my first time there.

Check the attachment for numbers & map. I knew hoarding dozens of business cards would come in handy one day.

Good luck.

The Traveler
12-31-03, 12:21
littlebigman

i am with you, a 100 - 125cc is more than sufficient to go around in pattaya. i also believe it is more convienient as well. you don't get stucked in the traffic jam like i do sometimes. a chopper needs more space and is harder to handle, especially for an unexperienced driver. a few nights before i saw a guy who tried to drive a small (400-500cc) chopper. it looked funny as hell, like a frog sitting on it, but it is also extremely dangerous if you can not drive it.

furthermore, the girls don't know what kind of bike you are driving since you don't bring it inside the disco, gogo or whatever and they don't care at all. payment is their first aim, also your looks and attitude. you will get laid even when you only use taxis, so hiring a big bike is only for the sole ego rather than for the girls. anyway, most guys like to show off, but many of them you will see a few days later coming from the hospital with bandages around their arms and legs. driving slow and calm imho is much cooler and harder than speeding up.

my advice regarding insurance : try to pay with your credit card. many credit cards include an insurance without any additional costs. if there was no accident till the end of the rental, request the credit card slip back and pay cash. you can't do that after an accident had occured, since the credit card company knows when the transfer number was requested.

at least, i hope it wasn't my chopper than made it work with the singaporean girls. i guess that my polite approach and my appearance did it instead of jumping on them like the french guys.
tourist girls who are out for fun want to be pleased and therefore looking for a mature guy rather than a few youngster who will use them for a few minutes.

have fun

The Traveler
12-31-03, 13:28
field report part vii

same procedure as every day, checking out the beer bars at naklua, soi 2 and soi 6 - 9. nothing to my taste. went further to check out the gogos. finally ended up at caroussel in soi diamond, already 1am, but still two cute girls on the dance floor. choose one immediately since everything looks ok, face (most important to me), body and attitude. haven't seen any number on her but i was told that she got #72, 24yrs old, 1,65m, 46kg, sexy dancing, no kids. already forgot her name, but why should i remember it anyway ?

bought ladydrink for her and one nice waitress. told her i want lt, no st. she said ok but mentioned 2000bt for it. tell her that i never negotiate a price beforehand cause i don't know what i will get, but that i will be fair and payment will depend on quality of services provided. she understands and no further discussions, so i paid barfine 500 (before midnight 1000) and finally went to marine plaza to dance a bit and to have a water pipe, love the smell.

around 3am she wants to go home, not tired but horny as she told me. so back home she immediately drags me down on the bed, riding on me, turning and rubbing her ass against my dick and making me really horny. everything looks very promising. a bit foreplay, a quick shower with more foreplay and here we go. she is real horny and wet, loves to ride hard and seems to cum off
fast. finally the downturn, after approx. 30mins she starts to complain why i like to take my time, tell her to shut up but mood is gone. finally i speed up to get it done and get rid of her. she tells me that all guys who had been with her before needed only between 3-5 mins. can't believe it, since others who complained on other occasions (only gogo girls though) told me average time is 20-30 mins. at least one more reason - besides the overpriced barfine and higher expectations of those girls - to avoid those chicks. a bit more funny talk and a nice 15mins massage before i finally wave her goodbye. no regrets, paid st (short but a quite good one though) so it set me back 1000bt.

next night out with friends, checking the freelancers on walking street, all the discos like excite, tonys, marine i + ii, marine plaza and so on. couldn't find anything to my taste and still available, but as soon as i see a girl i like, i approach her and collect phone numbers and other details. already nice list for my next trip to prebook or to make appointments for the next days. most guys seem not to like it too much, but it is business and sometimes i use ex-gfs to get the info, so no probs occured till now.

again i am too picky. sure, one has to be disabled down from the neck if he can't get laid in thailand, but i prefer quality over quantity.

just called my regular who is working in an architect office in bangkok. told her to come to pattaya. she got a few days off and will come down to pleasure me.

have fun

Opebo
12-31-03, 20:44
the_traveler,

hey, i actually couldn't agree more with you on this point! the girls really do get spoiled by their speedier customers. if you take a long time (anything over 15-20 minutes!) to come they tend not to like it. i'm often getting complaints of that type. and you're right, if they say anything during sex to hurry things along it totally spoils the mood. they also tend to be very unhappy to discover the customer is above average in endowment. but what can you expect, they're always just looking for the easiest money, so the smaller and quicker the customer the better.

this problem can be avoided if you look for girls who are more service oriented. those will never be the best looking girls, however, and the worst of all are go-go girls. performance and attitude are in inverse proportion to appearance!