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Anyone have suggestions for a taxi from Bangkok down to Pattaya? Mr Taxi used to be 1,000 then bumped it to 1,100 and is now asking for 1,300 for a small toyota camry. Anyone have anything cheaper or even a minivan in the range of 2,000?We pay Nams 1200 from the airport to Pattaya so I imagine that 1300 to 1400 would be from Nana area but check with her on their Facebook page but I think it was Camry sized vehicle.
Anyone have suggestions for a taxi from Bangkok down to Pattaya? Mr Taxi used to be 1,000 then bumped it to 1,100 and is now asking for 1,300 for a small toyota camry. Anyone have anything cheaper or even a minivan in the range of 2,000?If you have a lot of luggage and that is the reason you need to take a taxi from your Nana area hotel or apartment directly to a hotel in Pattaya, then disregard this suggestion. But I only take a small carry-on case or shoulder bag and this is the way I have traveled to and from Pattaya the last 3 times I've gone there. It isn't going to shave off hundreds of baht vs taking a taxi all the way from Nana to Pattaya. It will either cost the same or perhaps 100 baht less or more. But for those of us who get antsy sitting in traffic and want to get moving it shaves off about an hour of travel time. Maybe more. Mid day it has so far never taken me more than 2 hours in either direction, door to door, to and from BTS Nana to my Pattaya Walking Street hotel. Taking a taxi the whole way has never taken me less than 3 hours but I assume it could be done faster than that if you leave at 1-2 AM or something like that.
Ride the BTS train from BTS Nana to BTS Phya Thai, the BTS station that intersects with the Airport Link Railway. Then ride the Airport Link Railway to the Lat Krabang station. Don't ride it all the way into Suvarnabhumi Airport. Get off at the Lat Krabang station, one station before the airport station. At this point the train rides have cost you, what, about 65-75 baht total I think. And you have only had to wait for two trains for a total of about 5-10 minutes probably unless you were unlucky enough to get to the platforms just as the previous train was pulling away. At Lat Krabang station there will be dozens of taxis available to take you directly to your Pattaya hotel. Of the three times I have gone this way in the past few months, I was easily able to get a taxi to agree to 1,000 baht twice. One time, during the New Years Day Weekend, I was with a Thai girl, I did not want to wave off more than 3 disagreeable taxis, it was a holiday weekend and so I agreed to pay 1,200 baht that time.
Travel back to BTS Nana from my Pattaya Walking Street hotel is simply the reverse of that route. Again, no more than 2 hours, door to door, from my Pattaya Walking Street hotel to BTS Nana. You will have to make sure your driver understands you do not want to be taken into Suvarnabhumi Airport, that you only want to go to the Airport Link Railway station before the Airport station, at Lat Krabang. Show him the map on your phone. This is where you are likely going to still pay the same amount as if you are going to the airport, unless you are willing to negotiate a bit. It isn't as though not taking you all the way into the airport is a great gas or time saver for the taxi driver. So we're talking about 1,100-1,200 baht usually.
Doing it that way cuts out all the inner city Bangkok traffic because that is the leg of the trip where you are riding the BTS train and the Airport Link Railway. One time last year, before I started traveling to Pattaya this way, I took a taxi from Sukhumvit Soi 4 to Pattaya Walking Street. Swear to god, when I factored in the WAITING time for the taxi to arrive, the circuitous route he had to take through traffic just to get on the expressway and the Bangkok City traffic on the expressway, it took me 3 hours and 45 minutes from the time I first stood on Soi 4 with my carry-on bag until I finally got to my hotel on Walking Street. Going the way I do now, NOTHING slows me down from carrying my bag to BTS Nana and getting the hell out of Bangkok City and to Lat Krabang station on the Airport Link Railway within 45 minutes. After that, it will be a taxi ride for 1 hour to 1 1/4 hour to Walking Street. Unless the taxi driver has no idea how to get to Walking Street and gets lost in Pattaya I suppose. Or if there is a lot of slow traffic on the expressway into Pattaya. In which case, every passenger vehicle will be slowed down and stuck in it.
Crocodilexp
02-16-19, 07:08
Ride the BTS train from BTS Nana to BTS Phya Thai, the BTS station that intersects with the Airport Link Railway. Then ride the Airport Link Railway to the Lat Krabang station. Don't ride it all the way into Suvarnabhumi Airport. At Lat Krabang station there will be dozens of taxis available to take you directly to your Pattaya hotel.
That's a great suggestion. For those of who are not into haggling with taxis, there's also a direct bus from the airport (level right above Airport Link) to Pattaya. Costs 120 baht and goes every hour, though sometimes it gets full and you have to wait for the next one. Taking the Airport Link shaves off 30-40 min off the bus journey as well compared to Ekamai. As a bonus, that bus stops at Central Road, Pattaya South road, or Jomtien (last stop), so you can avoid the leeches at the North Pattaya bus terminal. Last time they had the gall to ask 100 baht for a shared songtaew, which is 10 baht elsewhere. I find the Jomtien station (on Thapphraya Rd, near Thep Prasit Rd interection) more convenient when going back as well.
In addition, if you're closer to Asoke than Nana, taking the MRT from Sukhumvit station up to Phetchaburi (only 1 stop), and then boarding the Airport Link at Makkasan is slightly faster than going to Phaya Thai.
Banana Boi
02-16-19, 07:19
I've been meaning to try the airport rail link from Phaya Tai BTS to / from Suvarnabhumi. Not so much to save a bit of money on taxi fare rather than to save time in Bangkok traffic as ET also mentioned. Croc, thanks for the heads up about going to Makkasan MRT instead.
That's a great suggestion. For those of who are not into haggling with taxis, there's also a direct bus from the airport (level right above Airport Link) to Pattaya. Costs 120 baht and goes every hour, though sometimes it gets full and you have to wait for the next one. Taking the Airport Link shaves off 30-40 min off the bus journey as well compared to Ekamai. As a bonus, that bus stops at Central Road, Pattaya South road, or Jomtien (last stop), so you can avoid the leeches at the North Pattaya bus terminal. Last time they had the gall to ask 100 baht for a shared songtaew, which is 10 baht elsewhere. I find the Jomtien station (on Thapphraya Rd, near Thep Prasit Rd interection) more convenient when going back as well.
In addition, if you're closer to Asoke than Nana, taking the MRT from Sukhumvit station up to Phetchaburi (only 1 stop), and then boarding the Airport Link at Makkasan is slightly faster than going to Phaya Thai.I'll have a wingman so the taxi cost will be split in half. Taking the BTS doubles that price for two people.
Tuesday 2/19 is a religious holiday in Thailand. I believe it will be 'dry' day, meaning most bars will close midnight on the 18th, and *might* open at midnight on the 19th. Some venues will skirt the law by serving you drinks on the down low. Package outlets like 7-11 will not sell alcohol in observance of the hoiday. There is already a notice up at Foodland saying as much.
Usually hotels who cater to the tourist trade will still serve alcohol, otherwise a quiet time. Plan accordingly.
SL.
I've been meaning to try the airport rail link from Phaya Tai BTS to / from Suvarnabhumi. Not so much to save a bit of money on taxi fare rather than to save time in Bangkok traffic as ET also mentioned. Croc, thanks for the heads up about going to Makkasan MRT instead.Just as a followup in case this is a concern for anyone. I can understand why someone who has never given it a try would be spooked about getting off the Airport Link Railway at the Lat Krabang station rather than going all the way into the Airport, one more station, to get a taxi to Pattaya. But there really are tons of taxis parked and cruising through the ground level parking lot area right at the bottom of the escalator at the Lat Krabang station. And it is closer to the expressway than the Aiport.
It has been decades since I got a taxi to Pattaya from inside Suvarnabhumi Airport, so I don't know if today there is a queue, a chaotic onslaught of taxi touts or a half mile of concourse to pass through before you get from the Airport Link Railway station inside the airport to where the taxis are. But the Lat Krabang station has none of that. You just go down the escalator or steps and taxis are pretty much all over the place. I have never had other travelers jump ahead of me to flag one over and never seen a line waiting to book one. Unless I hear of a reason I hadn't considered to go all the way into the Airport to get a taxi to Pattaya instead of hopping off the train at Lat Krabang station to get one, I would probably never go all the way into the Airport to get one instead.
It also crossed my mind that IF I did have a problem getting a taxi to Pattaya at the Lat Krabang station for some reason, it would be easy enough to just get back on the next train and go one more station into the Airport to get one anyway. But in the three times I've gone this way, it has not been a problem.
MadMaxy2011
02-16-19, 17:44
This report is quite old and Som's haven have changed their name. I'm not sure of the new name I think it's phra phong but the location is opposite to Terminal 21 in this link https://www.stickboybkk.com/bars/soms-haven-changing-name-location/ I tried woods bar soi Sukhumvit 7/1 few times now but this seems better in all ways.
Just walk in you get to select the girl picked a girl went up to the room, you can change over to a robe. Then to washroom to clean your tool then you can either sit on the couch or lay down on the bed. Very professional and these girls know how to handle and how to please. It's not just stick it in your mouth and up down motion, the tongue swirling and vacuum and not a feel of the teeth.
Damage 800 baht.
This report is quite old and Som's haven have changed their name. I'm not sure of the new name I think it's phra phong but the location is opposite to Terminal 21 in this link https://www.stickboybkk.com/bars/soms-haven-changing-name-location/ I tried woods bar soi Sukhumvit 7/1 few times now but this seems better in all ways.
Just walk in you get to select the girl picked a girl went up to the room, you can change over to a robe. Then to washroom to clean your tool then you can either sit on the couch or lay down on the bed. Very professional and these girls know how to handle and how to please. It's not just stick it in your mouth and up down motion, the tongue swirling and vacuum and not a feel of the teeth.
Damage 800 baht.They cannot use Phra in a name because that is a religious word meaning Monk or Buddha image / statue. Ha ha.
Changed both Name and Location. Soi 14 is under redevelopment so moved from there. So it is not quite opposite to Terminal 21, that is a bit misleading. Lucky you link to the info. Duang-porn's Haven. No clue if Som has anything to do with it or not.
Mumbai Guy
02-19-19, 12:53
Considering the upcoming general elections in Thailand I wonder if there would be any restrictions / closures of gogos / bars or crackdown on FLs / street walkers. I have a trip planned from 3rd. March for a fortnight. I don't know whether I should postpone it.
Considering the upcoming general elections in Thailand I wonder if there would be any restrictions / closures of gogos / bars or crackdown on FLs / street walkers. I have a trip planned from 3rd. March for a fortnight. I don't know whether I should postpone it.I think you should be ok. The election is scheduled for Sunday March 24th, and I can't imagine a nightlife and / or alcohol ban being imposed for more than a week. Close though.
SL.
It's a relatively new phenomenon this, the act of procuring Thai girls for sex through virtual means. I've never been a fan or a practitioner, but with the recent posts by Siamsin, Eihtooms and others, I'm beginning to wonder. I looked through the pages of the venerable ISG, and I have not found a robust discussion of this facet of mongering in LOS (plenty of very useful reports, but not really a pros-and-cons kinds of discussion), and so I am hoping to get some insights from you all.
I may be wrong, but I think this wave of online activity of finding freelancers has really come into its own in the last 2 years. It was around before, sure, probably since 2010 or so, but it really wasn't a major thing. In the last 2 years, I think a lot of girls have developed a presence on some of the major apps, they all make use of Line, and they make a good side hustle out of it. And so where the gazelles migrate, so go the lions. For example, reports such as this abound here at ISG:
Been having a very good success rate getting LINE ID's from Thai FriendlyBut for me, I have always been hesitant to go that route for two major reasons. I would appreciate any thoughts you have on these reasons, and whether I am being overly cautious. Or am I right in avoiding the online hustle?
To make this work, I need to set up a dichotomy, which is undoubtedly false, but let's do it anyway. Let's just assume, for the sake of this discussion, that there are two kinds of mongers in LOS: the Traditional Monger (TM) and the Online Monger (OM). It should be said that I am imagining this from a visitor's perspective, not an expat's perspective. For the expat, I think being both an OM and a TM makes a whole lot of sense. But it's the traveling monger that I am considering.
The TM is the guy who operates as mongers have since the invention of the pussy and cock: they arrive in LOS, they go to a gogo bar, club, Suk soi 4, soapy, massage parlor, etc. , find a cutie that rings their bell, boinks said cutie, pays up and saunters off in search of noodles and a beer. You know, the regular thing.
The OM, on the other hand, is the guy who starts early (weeks, months before arrival in LOS), cultivating individual avatars on various sites in preparation for arrival in LOS. They are avatars at this point because all you know about them is what they construct online for you to see, so they are not the real thing. They are a virtual representation of something real. Upon arrival, the OM calls in the chips from those avatars one by one, and slowly works down his list of preferred options. When the avatar transforms into a real human being (they meet in real life), the OM has to either follow through with sex+money, or find an elegant way to bail. And if bail is the option, he needs to go down the list of avatars until he finds the right human being. Not to mention individual names here at ISG, but I think we can all identify those that fit into one model or the other. There are, of course, many who do both, and I think this latter group are the ones who can probably respond to this query the best.
So with that typology of mongers established, here are the reasons I hesitate to make the shift from TM to OM (or a mix of the two).
Reason 1: Hassle.
Reason 2: Online shopping.
Hassle
From all I have read about how to make the Thai Friendly or Thai Cupid (or whatever) route work, it seems like you need to put in a lot of work. You need to have a reasonable profile, carefully worded to make clear what you want, and then you have to spend time trolling through dozens of profiles. It sounds like you get lots and lots of hits, and the key to making this plan work is to sift through all the pebbles and find the emeralds hiding within.
Even then, once you find a few of those emeralds, you need to cultivate them. You need to strike up conversations, and get a feel for each one of them, and then make arrangements.
Eihtooms, Siamsin and others have given really nice descriptions of how to do this, and to you all I am indebted.
So the thing about all that is that it sounds like a monumental time commitment. It sounds like a tedious process, fraught with potential pitfalls, and it just seems like an inefficient way to procure what is freely available otherwise. I'm not averse to hard work, quite the contrary. But I am averse to inefficient work, which is what this strikes me as. Can anyone dissuade me of that impression? Am I missing something?
Online Shopping
Remember when no one believed Amazon would work? When everyone was skeptical that people would buy anything online other than books? Now, in 2019, I buy all kinds of shit online, but I only buy things that don't need personal assessment: books, hair gel, Go Pro cameras, cereal, etc. I buy clothes and shoes, but only from brands that I know will fit me. Size 9 shoes from one brand is not the same as size 9 shoes from another. And if you want to try something new, you really need to try it on in person. Alternatively, you can buy something new online, knowing that you may well have to create shipping labels, make the trip to the UPS store and send it back for a refund. Translation: hassle.
So with girls, when I pick up girls in LOS, whether in a gogo bar, a soapie, a night club or off the street, I'm not looking for a vagina. They all have vaginas, so that is a given. What differentiates vagina 1 from vagina 2 are all accoutrements: shape of her legs, hips-to-waist ratio, flab on the belly, liveliness of her skin tone, the bounce in her gait, quality of her finger nails, etc. These are the kinds of things one cannot gauge online, since they are issues of personal fit. The analogy seems absurd now, but it's like a size 9 shoe: not all size 9 shoes fit me properly.
How does one figure out all those other things when interacting with a carefully manicured avatar? How can I tell if the details of her physique will live up to my needs? Perhaps I am being too picky, but that's my concern.
So TM I am, no question about it. But reading the posts on ISG (especially the recent ones), it seems like I might be missing something very substantial with the online scene. Guys, help get this luddite up to speed, please. I have less than two weeks before I hit the dirty streets of Sukhumvit. Should I take the plunge with online mongering options, or should I hold steady to my old ways?
It's a relatively new phenomenon this, the act of procuring Thai girls for sex through virtual means. I've never been a fan or a practitioner, but with the recent posts by Siamsin, Eihtooms and others, I'm beginning to wonder.
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But for me, I have always been hesitant to go that route for two major reasons. I would appreciate any thoughts you have on these reasons, and whether I am being overly cautious. Or am I right in avoiding the online hustle?
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Reason 1: Hassle.
Reason 2: Online shopping.
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So the thing about all that is that it sounds like a monumental time commitment. It sounds like a tedious process, fraught with potential pitfalls, and it just seems like an inefficient way to procure what is freely available otherwise. I'm not averse to hard work, quite the contrary. But I am averse to inefficient work, which is what this strikes me as. Can anyone dissuade me of that impression? Am I missing something?
...I know you (and I) are hoping for other posters' perspective on this. But, no, you are not missing something with regard to online dating and possible FL contact sites like ThaiFriendly and ThaiCupid. To find the diamond in the rough it might require much more time than a Travel Monger has to give it. However, that is my experience and in my case I am not merely looking to find a FL or "date" who will agree to meet me for a given price. In my case and prepared with what I feel are safer-than-most conditions (vasectomy, zero history of serious sex-related ailments in 45+ years of barebacking thousands of different women and at least a recent medical check document on hand), I am not just looking for girls of a certain minimum attractiveness level and price point but women who are also willing to go bareback with me. And on that latter count, I have found video chatting with the girl even for a minute before I bring up that detail works wonders to improve my acceptance rate. That is where more time is committed to chatting on the dating site enough to get their Line ID (many will give it on their first dating site email exchange), moving to Line and then getting her to agree to video chat "for 1 minute now just to say Hello?"
It could be that other guys just click Interested on the more obvious FL profiles, write a quick message about hotel location, get a response in a few hours, decide on a price, time and done. In which case, the time and effort put into shopping is minimal. Do that with 20 of the most likely candidates on those sites, shot gun all of them at 10 am or whenever, wait, go about your day and you'll probably have a half dozen likely takers by 6PM. But that is only a guess on my part since I DO have enough time to devote to getting my particular requirement settled before I bother to set a time and place to meet.
I am not just looking for girls of a certain minimum attractiveness level and price point but women who are also willing to go bareback with me. See, now that does make sense. "Will you do bareback?" is the kind of product you can figure out even from an avatar, and so being an Online Monger, at least part time, makes perfect sense.
It could be that other guys just click Interested on the more obvious FL profiles, write a quick message about hotel location, get a response in a few hours, decide on a price, time and done. In which case, the time and effort put into shopping is minimal. Do that with 20 of the most likely candidates on those sites, shot gun all of them at 10 am or whenever, wait, go about your day and you'll probably have a half dozen likely takers by 6PM. But that is only a guess on my part since I DO have enough time to devote to getting my particular requirement settled before I bother to set a time and place to meet.Just reading this makes me want to take a nap. It seems like so much work. I suppose clubbing at 3 am is also tedious and exhausting, but I find it far more appealing than tapping on my phone for hours a day.
I know you (and I) are hoping for other posters' perspective on this. But, no, you are not missing something with regard to online dating and possible FL contact sites like ThaiFriendly and ThaiCupid. To find the diamond in the rough it might require much more time than a Travel Monger has to give it. Thank you, we seem to be in agreement. It will be interesting to see if anyone has a different opinion.
See, now that does make sense. "Will you do bareback?" is the kind of product you can figure out even from an avatar, and so being an Online Monger, at least part time, makes perfect sense.
I wouldn't blurt it out quite that way. Not saying it wouldn't work. It just isn't how I have ever done it. At the very least I would add the qualifier "with me?" Why not at least assure her that I am not asking whether she will "do" bareback willy nilly with anyone who asks her to and that I recognize it might be something special she would do for certain men.
But, yes, that is a detail one can settle far more discretely in a private person-to-person chat on Line than in a Thermae lineup or in a noisy bar.
Again, my preferred method is to bring up my need to BB in order to finish while engaging in vaginal intercourse and the precautions I have taken in order to ensure some degree of safety AFTER we have video chatted for a few minutes about nothing other than Hi, How are you, Good to know you, You look great, We can text more now.
It is during the texting AFTER the video chat that I bring up my inability to finish wearing a condom. It is at that point where I am throwing myself on the mercy of the court, leaving it to her to accept it or not. Some will. Some won't.
The recent posts on social media hookups versus traditional hook ups are interesting. In what follows, I realise there's also a lot of potential overlap too, especially referring to the social apps discussed.
I suppose I see three prongs to hooking up as a visitor.
First the traditional methods such as Gogos, BJ bars, FL locations street, Thermae and so on.
Second, social apps which are overtly used by girls offering services, such as wechat, which I've used before successfully, etc. You find someone, agree a price and service and they come over for an agreed time. I like this method especially as I don't like the crap and loud music in GoGos and their like, plus the idea of Bfs. Yes, I'm not in my 20 or 30's so this (loud bars) is now a factor for me.
Third, traditional dating apps such as Thai Cupid. These can possibly throw up a free lay with everything going well age, looks, game, rapport etc. But even then who's to know if a date isn't really partly gaming and going to expect some remuneration (even if it isn't asked for haven't folks here said they'd slip some baht into her purse to help out with the buffalo or whatever)?
If one is prepared to invest a lot of time (and maybe a few dating site subs) to groom the sweet popsies, which, ultimately, could be a blow out, why not save all this time and effort by just going route 1 if bars and traditional set ups are your thing (and who can say there's not a thrill for the occasional monger playing this game in the social environment?) Or route 2 and just select at the moment of need from wechat or similar location based services?
I can see that nurturing a contact over several days or weeks before contact can pay off, especially if she offers it up for free, and then becomes available for return visits when you're in town. What could be better, I'd say.
After all this, I still have come down hard in one category. I can forecast for my next visit to BKK my strategy will fall between route 1 and route 2.
Hi guys.
I think everyone will have different opinions regarding this topic. I have been using one form or another of online apps and in the earlier days, 2000 to 2008 chat rooms to procure sex in Asian countries. Particularly in Indonesia where I didn't have time to go to clubs to find girls due to being with my wife. Back to the present regarding Thailand TF has a place in our hobby now. In my last 3 trips I have used it as well as beer bars and gogos to find partners. Where TF is handy is that if you are in your room say at 10 am and feel like a fuck you can have one there in 1/2 hour. Now we all know the downfall to online shopping is old pics and picture enhancing apps, so always video call before you seal the deal. If they don't want a call be wary and go to the next profile.
Earlier this month my brother secured about 12 girls from TF and I saw about 8 of them and they were all between 7 to 9's. He did try to pre book some before he arrived but was either ignored or told to contact when in Pattaya and when he did most came either within the hour or at the agreed time. Looking at it from a girls point of view why work stupid hours in a bar or gogo or stand for so many hours on Beach Road when you can be in the comfort of your own home or doing what needs to be done and still be capable of earning money.
The positive I have gotten out of it is meeting girls who are part time and in 1 occasion not P4 P and getting the real GFE.
I think as time goes by the cleverer girls will be doing more online and you will find that it will be the newer girls or girls indebted that will be working in the bars and gogos.
It's a relatively new phenomenon this, the act of procuring Thai girls for sex through virtual means. I've never been a fan or a practitioner, but with the recent posts by Siamsin, Eihtooms and others, I'm beginning to wonder. I looked through the pages of the venerable ISG, and I have not found a robust discussion of this facet of mongering in LOS (plenty of very useful reports, but not really a pros-and-cons kinds of discussion), and so I am hoping to get some insights from you all.
I may be wrong, but I think this wave of online activity of finding freelancers has really come into its own in the last 2 years. It was around before, sure, probably since 2010 or so, but it really wasn't a major thing. In the last 2 years, I think a lot of girls have developed a presence on some of the major apps, they all make use of Line, and they make a good side hustle out of it. And so where the gazelles migrate, so go the lions. For example, reports such as this abound here at ISG:
Reason 1: Hassle.
Reason 2: Online shopping.
How does one figure out all those other things when interacting with a carefully manicured avatar? How can I tell if the details of her physique will live up to my needs? Perhaps I am being too picky, but that's my concern.
So TM I am, no question about it. But reading the posts on ISG (especially the recent ones), it seems like I might be missing something very substantial with the online scene. Guys, help get this luddite up to speed, please. I have less than two weeks before I hit the dirty streets of Sukhumvit. Should I take the plunge with online mongering options, or should I hold steady to my old ways?Hey Kumbu, appreciate the mentions and the fact that mine and others reports have got you interested in the OM avenue. You raise some very good questions in a very articulate and precise manner I might add.
Firstly, I think you have half the battle won just by being curious about OM options. Most TM's are quite satisfied with their routine and there's nothing wrong with that. Having done a lot of OM and some TM, I think there's absolutely no reason to exclude either. So to give you my opinions, I'll start off by giving you a couple of possible scenarios:
1. You land in Bkk, hit 3 Gogo bars and there's nothing you fancy, or you're having shit luck. While sipping your preferred Ale at Gogo bar 3, you get a Line message from your TF contact, asking if you've finally arrived in BKK. You reply with yes, just getting a beer. You then ask her if she's keen to meet, and she replies with okay, she'll meet you at a certain pub in an hours time.
2. You arrive in BKK, dog tired, get to your hotel and pass out. Wake up in the morning, check your phone and you've got messages from your TF contacts on Line keen to meet you. You didn't even have to get out of bed to setup a date.
The above 2 scenarios are very possible if you include OM into your agenda. Now to address some of your concerns I'd like to point out a few things (bear in mind that this is only my opinion):
So with girls, when I pick up girls in LOS, whether in a gogo bar, a soapie, a night club or off the street, I'm not looking for a vagina. They all have vaginas, so that is a given. What differentiates vagina 1 from vagina 2 are all accouterments: shape of her legs, hips-to-waist ratio, flab on the belly, liveliness of her skin tone, the bounce in her gait, quality of her finger nails, etc. These are the kinds of things one cannot gauge online, since they are issues of personal fit. The analogy seems absurd now, but it's like a size 9 shoe: not all size 9 shoes fit me properly.1. Attraction.
TM. Considering all P4 P avenues (gogo's, MP's, soapies, clubs, freelancers etc) the only P4 P option where 'what you see is what you truly get' is at the gogo's, granted the girls are semi nude or nude. All other avenues there's sometimes a surprise lurking under her clothes (tattoos, baby scarring, overgrown Bush, saggy tits, birthmark, penis? Etc). So, aside from gogo's, there's a reason that certain girls are more popular in the p4 p scene, and that's because of reviews, reports, posts etc about these girls on boards such as this 1. My point is that as much as the girl may have nice legs, fingernails, bust, toned tummy, beautiful skin tone and she's sexy, unless you're at a gogo, you can't be sure what lies beneath those clothes with other offline P4 P options.
OM. Profile pictures aside, once you engage with a girl that you fancy, it's very easy to get her to send you more photos, get her social media details and check out her FB or Insta and get a better look at her. If you play your cards right with Online girls, it's very easy to see them nude or semi nude on video calls. I've personally done this with many of my long time TF contacts before meeting them (not the freelancers BTW). So it's definetly possible to 'see' what you're getting from Online girls too.
2. Personality.
I know you haven't mentioned this, but I'm just adding it in there.
TM. Sitting with a girl at a gogo, feeling her up and conversing while buying her drinks, surely gives you a decent enough idea about her personality and the experience you can expect. Other p4 p options maybe not so much but again reviews etc help. Now this isn't crucial because you just want to fuck her, not have a family with her, but having a friendly or caring or jovial personality will certainly add to your experience with an option to repeat if all was satisfactory.
OM. Freelancers. A few chat messages, and a video call or 2 and you can have an idea of the girl that you're going to meet.
Ordinary Girls Online. You can spend as much or as little time as you have to get to know her. It can vary on how much time you put in, but you can basically build up a rapport with these girls and when you finally meet them, it's so easy to get along. You can also decide on initial chats whether you can deal with her character or not. If not, simply ignore, block, delete or whatever and move on.
3. Hassle.
TM. You basically covered this, it's a simple process of you going out to these establishments and choosing a girl that you fancy, discussing rates and requirements, and heading off.
OM. Freelancers. I usually get their line ID's in 4 quick messages. Move onto Line and discuss further. In less than 10 minutes, while taking a dump or watching tv or relaxing, you can arrange for a girl to show up at your apartment for sex with everything you want already discussed.
Ordinary Girls Online. They usually take the longest time investment, especially if you really like her. But there's many pros including real GFE, possible relationship (when you're in Thailand), free sex whenever you want, someone to spend time with and go out with, a girl that hasn't been fucked by more than a handful of guys or less, possibility to be her first foreigner, BBFS if you're into that, over night affairs etc.
Other benefits of OM.
1. If you plan on visiting different provinces in Thailand, you can search those areas in advance and arrange to meet girls before even arriving (I had over a dozen cute freelancer contacts from Pattaya before I got there from BKK).
2. Once your profile is setup (Just takes a few minutes) online, you can browse through profiles at your own convenience and send messages when you want. It only takes a couple of minutes, certainly not a tedious task.
3. The cost effectiveness is also a point. There's no need to spend money on drinks, transport, entry fees etc. Just send a message and the girl rocks up to your hotel or condo.
4. I'll just reiterate this point, you're not going to get girls who get fucked everyday by different guys 3 weeks in a month on here. I've seen many Freelancers use TF for short periods, only when they need the cash. Some disappear off the radar completely after.
5. Even girls with boyfriends or are in some sort of relationship are not off limits. If they avail themselves on these apps, there's a good chance you can bang them too.
Personally I think the convenience of Online Mongering is incredible, but does require some game (especially for Ordinary Girls Online). But if a brown dude like me and a 65 year old like EihTooms can pull it off, there's nothing stopping you.
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OM. Freelancers. I usually get their line ID's in 4 quick messages. Move onto Line and discuss further. In less than 10 minutes, while taking a dump or watching tv or relaxing, you can arrange for a girl to show up at your apartment for sex with everything you want already discussed.
Ordinary Girls Online. They usually take the longest time investment, especially if you really like her. But there's many pros including real GFE, possible relationship (when you're in Thailand), free sex whenever you want, someone to spend time with and go out with, a girl that hasn't been fucked by more than a handful of guys or less, possibility to be her first foreigner, BBFS if you're into that, over night affairs etc.
...Your reference to doing this while taking a dump or watching tv cracked me up! Many is the time when replies from 2 tempting online FLs AND 2 quirky cute Ordinary Girls come in within minutes of each other later in the day or early in the evening, requiring me to round-robin reply, ask a pertinent question about this one, clarify a particular promised act from that one, trying to decide which one is making the most interesting offer so I choose best. For sure, I can't always choose best. But, believe it or not, it is FUN to juggle potential sex partners this way. Maybe they are juggling on their side of it, too. Quite possible. And, yes, I might be on the toilet, shaving at the sink, exercising in my apartment building, watching tv, making a sandwich, whatever.
As I am sure you have discovered too, once you get a flow of contacts and chats going, there is definitely a FUN element to Online Mongering that often rivals or surpasses whatever level of fun one can have in traditional bar, street or massage shop mongering. And it does not stop me from still going out for the night to monger in the more traditional ways.
And, guys, bear in mind go-go girls and shop girls all know that we now have a huge new pool of potential contacts online, literally at our fingertips, to give THEM competition in terms of services rendered and rates charged. Your understanding of that ought to embolden you to start ASKING for what you want and stop worrying too much about driving a go-go girl's initial quote down a few notches. This new age of internet mongering is a double edged sword for both sides of the transaction. It doesn't just cut one way, for the girls.
When I am mongering in a go-go bar these days, I make it part of my pattern to pull out my phone (some bars forbid using your phone, but this should only take a few seconds), check a few Line messages, smile openly at whatever response I have gotten (or pretend I've gotten some!) and then return my phone to my pocket. Best to do this right after a girl I have called over has sat down next to me. The message is clear; I have many more options than are in THIS bar to get what I want tonight. Now, let's get to know each other a little bit to see what you have to offer me. This is similar to what we feel when we see a go-go girl we are hot for being called over for a Lady Drink by someone else or sitting on another customer's lap. USE the era of online mongering to your advantage to get better results even in the go-go bars.
Crocodilexp
02-25-19, 09:12
reading the posts on ISG (especially the recent ones), it seems like I might be missing something very substantial with the online scene.You're not missing much. Your caricature is not at all far from reality.
We all differ in our preferences and what we look for, so the online scene may work better for some of us than others. I've seen claims here that it takes less effort than traditional mongering, and even that you can have a girl in your room within half an hour with these apps. The former might be true for those who find the online trawling for avatars and cultivating prospects mildly amusing. The latter is physically impossible (even meeting with an old buddy 4 BTS stops away takes longer from the initial contact), but it sure feels like half an hour to the person who wrote it.
Over the years, I tried all manner of online dating / mongering, from the now defunct ones (Bangkok Chat, ThailandFreinds, Badoo), to current ones like Tinder, ThaiFriendly, WeChat (briefly), and even Thai-only ones like FanFinFin. They all suffer from the major deficiencies you mentioned, especially when it comes to outright mongering.
First, it takes too much effort. Even if it's as simple as outright negotiating the price, place and time, it's still hugely inferior to the traditional scene, where I basically have to say yes or no, the place is where I want, and most importantly of all the time is now, with no uncertainty. Perhaps years as an expat in Thailand have made me jaded, but I'd rather jerk off and save my money than wait 3-4 h for a hooker.
Second, as you said, you're interacting with avatars, and for me, there's zero pleasure in that. Browsing through streetwalkers or bargirls is actually fun for me. Even if not many are attractive, it feels great there are women around who would go with you if you only said yes and accepted to pay. Online, even when I find a cute one, there's no way of knowing what she'll actually be like (for instance, for me smell is a great turnoff quite often, smokers are out), and the feeling is now "cool, now we talk price and I'm banging her within 30 min", but "will she respond quickly (if at all), is she at some far away inconvenient place, will we be able to agree to meet within a reasonable timeframe, once she arrives, will there be any obvious deal breakers" and so on. A streetwalker, bargirl or brothel girls is 100% available, and online girl may well be on a holiday coming next week (happened to me a few times).
To summarize, the satisfaction of looking is just not there, and the uncertainty is all on the monger (will she be there and available? Rather than on the girl (will this guy pick me? This is true even in the straight out browse-go-bang online scenes such as 141 in HK (with websites listing prices, services, location / hours and pictures), let alone in the less direct Thai online scene.
If you're still somewhat dateable, I think sites like ThaiFriendly or Tinder are better as dating sites, rather than for mongering. Most of the effort and time drain is still there, but the reward is potentially much greater. Unfortunately, for a Farang, the online dating pool is also much worse now than only 5 years ago, although it's still fairly easy to just get laid.
Thanks, gents, for the thoughtful responses. As we can see, there are several perspectives on this topic, and this discussion has been immensely helpful. So thanks to Crocodilexp, Eihtooms, Siamsin, Rob Jones, Penguin69, and the others who PMed me.
For what it's worth, here is my take-away. I think it does eventually boil down to personal preference. I think I am naturally most aligned with Crocodilexp's point of view. I enjoy the act of looking, rubbing elbows, smiling, getting shot down, finding the right mix of beauty and personality. I like hopping from one spot to the next, searching for my next lovely. And I too, like Crocodilexp, enjoy the thought of being able pick up what I like and have myself inside her within 30 minutes. So I think I will remain such a monger, probably forever, and regardless of what happens technologically.
But on the other hand, I can see the allure of the online scene. There is a little of the same thing there: you are going through profiles and getting something like the same experience, albeit on a 6-inch screen. Siamsin, I get all your arguments, and I cannot fault them in the least.
So I think in the end, I am likely to try both routes on my next visit to LOS. I think I will download TF and / or TC and start playing around with them. But I remain set on having this be a side diversion.
Many thanks for this discussion: it helps a great deal.
Mr Enternational
03-07-19, 14:43
I have been trying to get rid of this athlete's foot for years. Yesterday I took a picture of my foot and headed down to the pharmacy. He gave me medicine for 300 baht. I went home and took a shower and was about to put the medicine on, when I decided to look it up first. Shit. This is not for athlete's foot; it is for psoriasis. Enough of this shit. I am going to see a specialist tomorrow.
At noon I had lunch then headed down to Bangkok Pattaya Hospital. I saw that dermatology and cosmetic surgery were in a separate building in the back so I walked over there. I checked in at the front desk and told them I would like to see a dermatologist. When I got to the back, I saw the most beautiful doctor I have ever seen in my life. She looked like a damn model. She told me she would give me soap (which is actually shampoo but she said to use as soap), tablets, and creme and she wanted to see me back in 2 weeks. That is one appointment that I will not miss!
So I went outside and waited and they called me over to pay the bill. My buddy had already told me that it runs 1000 baht to see the doctor. I think I had about 3000 baht on me. They called me up and said 4,237 baht! What the fuck. Well I do not have that much cash, but I do have my Kasikorn debit card. The lady said great. You get a 300 baht discount for using that card. Well this is the first time that I have heard you get it cheaper by paying with a card instead of cash. This is Thailand though. So my bill was 3,935 baht. 1,000 baht to see the doctor, 2,715 baht for the medicine, and a 220 baht admin fee.
I got home and remember a buddy was just telling me 2 days before how he got fucked at Pattaya International Hospital a few days ago and now I just got fucked the same way. I thought when I take this psoriasis medicine back to the pharmacy, I will ask how much it is for the other medicines. Turns out at the pharmacy on Second Road the tablets cost 100 baht for 4. At the hospital they gave me 7 packs of 4 so that would have been 700 baht at the pharmacy. 10 g of the creme would have cost 100 baht. The hospital gave me 60 g. So 600 baht at the pharmacy. The soap at the pharmacy was 130 baht.
So buying the same medicines at the pharmacy would have cost me 1,430 baht versus the 3,017 cash price at the private hospital. Next time I am in this situation I will ask the doctor for the prescriptions before I leave the room and tell her that I will get them filled at an outside pharmacy. I would have saved myself almost 1,600 baht in this case. You live and you learn. Just want to pass on the knowledge to the next person.
So buying the same medicines at the pharmacy would have cost me 1,430 baht versus the 3,017 cash price at the private hospital. Next time I am in this situation I will ask the doctor for the prescriptions before I leave the room and tell her that I will get them filled at an outside pharmacy. I would have saved myself almost 1,600 baht in this case. You live and you learn. Just want to pass on the knowledge to the next person.I might be wrong but I think they won't give you directly the prescription, it's part of the "scam".
A few years ago I knew a good pharmacist in Pattaya (up to 2013), he's been very helpful with me. Maybe you could go and see him if he is still there, he is the kind of old "doctor-pharmacist" that try to heal his customers himself before sending them anywhere.
His pharmacy was located on Central road, the last one on the left side when you're going towards Sukhumvit. It's a "Thai-style "pharmacy, old, looks empty and everything written in Thai.
Don't bother trying to see this with his wife if she is the only one at the desk, she is clueless.
I have been trying to get rid of this athlete's foot for years. Yesterday I took a picture of my foot and headed down to the pharmacy. He gave me medicine for 300 baht. I went home and took a shower and was about to put the medicine on, when I decided to look it up first. Shit. This is not for athlete's foot; it is for psoriasis. Enough of this shit. I am going to see a specialist tomorrow.
At noon I had lunch then headed down to Bangkok Pattaya Hospital. I saw that dermatology and cosmetic surgery were in a separate building in the back so I walked over there. I checked in at the front desk and told them I would like to see a dermatologist. When I got to the back, I saw the most beautiful doctor I have ever seen in my life. She looked like a damn model. She told me she would give me soap (which is actually shampoo but she said to use as soap), tablets, and creme and she wanted to see me back in 2 weeks. That is one appointment that I will not miss!
So I went outside and waited and they called me over to pay the bill. My buddy had already told me that it runs 1000 baht to see the doctor. I think I had about 3000 baht on me. They called me up and said 4,237 baht! What the fuck. Well I do not have that much cash, but I do have my Kasikorn debit card. The lady said great. You get a 300 baht discount for using that card. Well this is the first time that I have heard you get it cheaper by paying with a card instead of cash. This is Thailand though. So my bill was 3,935 baht. 1,000 baht to see the doctor, 2,715 baht for the medicine, and a 220 baht admin fee.
I got home and remember a buddy was just telling me 2 days before how he got fucked at Pattaya International Hospital a few days ago and now I just got fucked the same way. I thought when I take this psoriasis medicine back to the pharmacy, I will ask how much it is for the other medicines. Turns out at the pharmacy on Second Road the tablets cost 100 baht for 4. At the hospital they gave me 7 packs of 4 so that would have been 700 baht at the pharmacy. 10 g of the creme would have cost 100 baht. The hospital gave me 60 g. So 600 baht at the pharmacy. The soap at the pharmacy was 130 baht.
So buying the same medicines at the pharmacy would have cost me 1,430 baht versus the 3,017 cash price at the private hospital. Next time I am in this situation I will ask the doctor for the prescriptions before I leave the room and tell her that I will get them filled at an outside pharmacy. I would have saved myself almost 1,600 baht in this case. You live and you learn. Just want to pass on the knowledge to the next person.Years ago I had a case of athletes foot that I had a doctor treat for over a year. I had monthly appointments with the doctor. On my last appointment the doctor said it was gone and cured. He asked me what I had done differently? I said last week I had just gotten back from the Bahamas with a week in the sun and surf. He concluded while scratching his head that the saltwater and sun was the proper prescription.
Mr Enternational
03-07-19, 18:59
Years ago I had a case of athletes foot that I had a doctor treat for over a year. I had monthly appointments with the doctor. On my last appointment the doctor said it was gone and cured. He asked me what I had done differently? I said last week I had just gotten back from the Bahamas with a week in the sun and surf. He concluded while scratching his head that the saltwater and sun was the proper prescription.I am a scuba diver and so far sun and surf have not helped me one bit. My doctor in the States said in many cases it will never go away.
I am a scuba diver and so far sun and surf have not helped me one bit. My doctor in the States said in many cases it will never go away.Maybe it was the special saltwater blend in Nassau beach for me. I mostly snorkeled and sun tanned there. The pnp was the shits there.
I am a scuba diver and so far sun and surf have not helped me one bit. My doctor in the States said in many cases it will never go away.Salt water is good for many skin problems, but can't fix everyone. I am very lucky to have gaps between my toes, so they get air and stay quite dry (when not swimming), and I rarely wear socks in Thailand, nor smelly sneakers. Sandals to keep toes properly aired. I don't even have to use foot powder to keep toes dry.
I did have tinea once or twice in my life, not caught while at the seaside, but saunas and public baths are risky I think. So I have used ointments and powders to treat it on odd occasion.
I suggest a very low sugar diet (yeasts and fungus love someone who has high sugar diet), and acid wash helps keep fungus away. However very concerted efforts maybe needed to get rid of it. Being sweaty between the toes is very unhelpful, and very hard to keep toes dry all the time when not swimming, so I can understand some may find it very hard to eradicate. Salt water ought to helpful rather than bad for it, as long as can be dry afterwards.
We are not all made the same when it comes to toe gaps, some what is easy for one can be very hard for another.
I might be wrong but I think they won't give you directly the prescription, it's part of the "scam".
Yes I think we can all agree that Hospitals are scamming. The medicine for my Step-daughter at the hospital turned out to be Paracetamol at a vastly inflated price. As they did so little for her, we need not have gone to the Hospital at all.
So I would also suggest to get medicines at a good cheap Pharmacy and for most of them, they can be bought without prescription anyway. The more dangerous things maybe exceptions. I am not sure if can get Prednisolone without prescription, as example.
It is very normal for Thailand doctors to be supplying patients with medicines from Doctor's dispensary, and most Thai patients are not even told what the pills are, so they have to return to the doctor to get some more, however I insist on knowing what the doctor is prescribing for me.
Hospitals have rip off charges left right and centre, so for all blood tests, I go to the Red Cross RatchaDamri.
E. g. I don't bother to go back to a Hospital to consult with their specialist about how my Gout is going. I can just get a regular blood test at Red Cross and interpret if my pill dosage is fine or not.
I also agree, for many simple complaints, you just go consult your Pharmacist.
One Thai girl I knew, was catching a bad cold (maybe a Flu maybe not), so she goes to the fancy hospital and pays thousands of Baht for a useless Flu vaccination, that could be got quite cheaply elsewhere. Far higher price than in my home country. Yes hard to believe but I don't think she was telling porkies. They don't inform the patient that it won't help if you already have the flu. Ha ha. Many patients don't know that taking antibiotics cannot cure a Virus also, so they go to the doctor or hospital just to waste time and money.
Thais talk about "Yaa Gare what" Medicine to cure the cold, which does not exist. There is only relieve symptoms or kill any bacteria that also arrived concurrently.
Gastro is a common complaint that can be treated by visiting the pharmacy. They will know just as much about fixing it as the doctor I reckon, if it is just a normal dose of bad belly, and not a very serious condition. Once a Thai doctor at the hospital prescribed me Amoxicillin Clavulanate for bad belly. Unfortunately the side effect is severe watery or bloody diarrhoea, because the Clavulanic acid kills off good bacteria needed in the gut. So why see a doctor to get the wrong medicine? There are better treatment options.
Pharmacists can be dumb too. To fix diarrhoea, some will sell you probiotics stuff, which really are greatly over rated. They just don't cut it unless a very mild condition maybe. However that was not in Thailand, where medicines are far more restricted without prescription.
I always believe in researching my conditions on the web, as a double check to make sure the so called experts are likely on the right track. We all get misdiagnosed at times, even by specialists. One skin specialist once tried to tell me that my scalp acne was dandruff. Ha ha. What a joke he was. Another time a doctor misdiagnosed lip sores and ulcers as Herpes Cold sores when was actually an extra bacterial infection when weak from a bad virus, sorted out by the second opinion. Even experts can be lacking the right experience level.
Are doctor's going to be a lot better than Pharmacists? Depends on your type of condition I think. Many viruses cannot be cured.
A local villager died recently after his cut leg was exposed to bad water. Hospital could not save him. Be careful going in suspect water. You can be unlucky and contact deadly organisms, or even chemicals like serious pesticides in Thailand. If water is suspect, don't put head under the water. Amoeba entering the nose (to brain) can be fatal. Seaside is much safer.
Gladiator69
03-11-19, 01:31
Someone wrote about the closing of Charoen Pharmacy earlier (but I thought I walked pass it the other day and saw it was open for business but closing down for the day at the time, not 100% sure though), so went to Southeast Pharmacy next to the Sofitel on Sukhumvit instead. Bought both genuine (1500 B) and generic (400 B) Cialis and generic Viagra (350 B). All worked like a charm!
Someone wrote about the closing of Charoen Pharmacy earlier (but I thought I walked pass it the other day and saw it was open for business but closing down for the day at the time, not 100% sure though), so went to Southeast Pharmacy next to the Sofitel on Sukhumvit instead. Bought both genuine (1500 B) and generic (400 B) Cialis and generic Viagra (350 B). All worked like a charm!Chareon is closing 90% of the shelves are empty. They are just selling down the last of the inventory.
Last month I conducted a fairly extensive survey of pharmacy's (two dozen probably) from lower Suk to T21 looking for Tadalafil (generic Cialis) it is manufactured in India and branded Apcalis. A buddy of mine wanted me to bring him back some and specially requested a Cialis derivitive. FWIW I do fine with the gerneric viagra manufactured in Thailand which is cheaper anyway.
Net / net: prices varied from 300-500 baht for a 4 pk 20 MG Apcalis. Could not find larger quantity packages or 5 MG / 10 MG doses at legit storefront pharmacies. A few did not carry the generic brand altogether.
The cheapest I found was the pharma at Foodland soi 5. They use a point of sale system, so they scan the barcode on the packaging and it rings up 300 baht. Most of the other shops had no POS system, and I felt like some were sizing me up before deciding on a price to quote me.
SL.
Years ago I had a case of athletes foot that I had a doctor treat for over a year. I had monthly appointments with the doctor. On my last appointment the doctor said it was gone and cured. He asked me what I had done differently? I said last week I had just gotten back from the Bahamas with a week in the sun and surf. He concluded while scratching his head that the saltwater and sun was the proper prescription.Something similar happened to me. I've had athlete's foot for years (at least that's what I thought I had) and couldn't get rid of it, until I had to spend a week in hospital for an operation. After this week the athlete's foot was suddenly vanished for the most part. But when I left the hospital the problems came back within a couple of weeks.
So I went to see my doctor and he said it was not athlete's foot but shoe allergy. The chemicals and glues that are used in the production of shoes can cause symptoms that look like athlete's foot. So the problems disappeared when I was in hospital because I was not wearing my shoes there.
He advised me to wear socks made of cotton (or at least 70 percent cotton) instead of wool or some other material, because these materials somehow interact with the chemicals and glues. So I bought new socks and within a few weeks the problems were gone.
If changing socks doesn't help you might have to change to hypoallergenic shoes, but it can be tough to find exactly the right shoes.
He advised me to wear socks made of cotton (or at least 70 percent cotton) instead of wool or some other material, because these materials somehow interact with the chemicals and glues. So I bought new socks and within a few weeks the problems were gone.
If changing socks doesn't help you might have to change to hypoallergenic shoes, but it can be tough to find exactly the right shoes.I recommend sandals, can be rubber if desired or leather or whatever you choose, and no socks, for Thailand. I rarely wear the shoes and socks here, never gym shoes unless exercising. Let my toes and feet gets looots of fresh air. Fungus and other problems like damp smelly socks a lot. So avoid that.
I recommend sandals, can be rubber if desired or leather or whatever you choose, and no socks, for Thailand. I rarely wear the shoes and socks here, never gym shoes unless exercising. Let my toes and feet gets looots of fresh air. Fungus and other problems like damp smelly socks a lot. So avoid that.Keen Arroyo II. People that walk around in flip-flops so it they're toes exposed are dumb in my humble opinion. Nothing beats a nice toe gash from a piece of broken pipe or something.
Keen Arroyo II. People that walk around in flip-flops so it they're toes exposed are dumb in my humble opinion. Nothing beats a nice toe gash from a piece of broken pipe or something.Coming up to 58 years of wearing flip flops and no such injuries! The Australian climate is different from Alaska, so maybe we have a 6th sense for such sharp objects LOL.
People that walk around in flip-flops so it they're toes exposed are dumb in my humble opinion.Appropriate footware for the rural provences or the beach, but IMO not for the streets of downtown Bangkok. FWIW the Thai people consider the feet to be the dirtiest part of the body, because they are down in the dirt. That is why a Thai lady would sooner rim you than kiss your feet. Go figure.
They are a part of the lower Suk ex-pat uniform though: Farangs walking around in shorts above the knee, wife-beater tee shirts, and sandals exposing their nasty ass feet.
SL.
Banana Boi
03-12-19, 23:55
FWIW the Thai people consider the feet to be the dirtiest part of the body, because they are down in the dirt.I know some ex-pats in Pattaya who only wear sandals. Then they wonder why they can't compete with the Koreans and Japanese who are generally well dressed with actual shoes on.
Look closely when a civilian girl checks you out when you are back in America. Their eyes will lead to your shoes.
Robert Long
03-13-19, 04:37
Appropriate footware for the rural provences or the beach, but IMO not for the streets of downtown Bangkok. FWIW the Thai people consider the feet to be the dirtiest part of the body, because they are down in the dirt. That is why a Thai lady would sooner rim you than kiss your feet. Go figure.
They are a part of the lower Suk ex-pat uniform though: Farangs walking around in shorts above the knee, wife-beater tee shirts, and sandals exposing their nasty ass feet.
SL.The dirtiest part of your body my friends is your MIND. And it is very important that you use any type of shoe or slipper that has an arch support and not those stupid flat rubber slippers.
An arch support helps your back stay in a proper position when walking and also supports your entire skeletal system. I also support wearing socks. Change them if they get wet and wash your feet by taking at least 2 showers a day. If you have stinky feet, you have other problems with your body. Your diet is not good and your eating to much red meat. You ever get into a lift with European guys? WOW, too much sausage my friend. Or could be too much booze.
Stayed for 29 days this trip. Abnb on Soi 21. The second busiest Soi in Bkk. Used the Motorbike taxis a lot. I had done my homework and lined up ladies from ThaiCupid and ThaiFriendly. Had one that drove from Ayutthaya twice to spend a few nights in Bkk. The others were lined up for dinners and movies. These are leg openers. Thai ladies love the cinema and good dinners which they never get without a farang. Absolutely no rejection to go to my room after either event.
I spent a week in Phuket and then 2 days in Khon Kaen by invitation from a beautiful lady. The heart of Issan is not impressive. It's smoky and dusty and boring, with the exception of the sweetheart that invited me.
Back to Bkk and entertained a few more ladies that I met on Thai friendly. I did have a few free nights that I spent at The Beer Garden. Best music in Bkk and 15% doable ladies, the rest have passed their shelf life but do manage to hook an occasional customer.
I met a sweetheart that was waiting for her customer, a guy from NZ who she had been with the night before. He showed up soon and we had a great conversation. Before he came she was telling me where all the younger ladies were. She said they go to Thermae for the Asian guys. She said they can make 4000 thb and the guy lasts 2 minutes. She said easy money and she goes there sometimes. She does not care for Asians and prefers Anglos. Which she says that most Thai ladies do not like Asians but the money is good.
Phuket report soon.
RL.
The dirtiest part of your body my friends is your MIND. And it is very important that you use any type of shoe or slipper that has an arch support and not those stupid flat rubber slippers.
An arch support helps your back stay in a proper position when walking and also supports your entire skeletal system. I also support wearing socks. Change them if they get wet and wash your feet by taking at least 2 showers a day. If you have stinky feet, you have other problems with your body. Your diet is not good and your eating to much red meat. You ever get into a lift with European guys? WOW, too much sausage my friend. Or could be too much booze.
RL.The stinkiest part is usually under arms, and maybe be followed by stinky feet, I don't know. I don't suffer that much from either. Under arm stink is caused by bacteria coming out of the pores, and stinky feet maybe related to sweat and synthetics. I keep feet dry most of the time and don't like to wear shoes and socks in daytime (in Thailand) unless raining and muddy, and bare feet round the house. Sandals at the door. I wear black shoes no laces when needed but almost never sneakers. I don't like the degree of being enclosed in them. Sports shoes, to me, are for playing sport. I just personally don't like them for casual or formal wear. Just me. They get grubby on the outside quite easily and not as easy to clean as normal office shoes.
I am aware that odours of garlic, onions etc. Can come out of people's pores, especially Europeans (yes) but it is usually more minor than acrid underarm stenches encountered in lifts for example. Thais eat a lot of garlic but they don't seem to stink of it much, I don't know why. Seems red meat could be a factor? Also asparagus and certain vegetables. I remember a Romanian family (by memory) that really ponged at a party when I was in early teens and wondering what they ate that caused it. Seemed to come out of their skin pores most likely. Having a sensitive nose is not a bonus. Possibly bacteria are having an effect not just on underarms.
Thais consider feet to be dirtiest part of the body, not sure that it makes difference what you are wearing, the feet are still dirty or low class. I don't see my Thai family members wearing socks, except with sneakers or full enclosed shoes for formal situations. None of them work in an office. The Thais say that wearing sneakers makes feet smelly even for Thais but they still wear them. So does not seem they consider feet will be cleaner than if wearing sandals necessarily.
Essentially you shower and clean everything including your feet before going after girls in the evening. Being well dressed can certainly make a difference.
Robert Long
03-14-19, 08:09
The stinkiest part is usually under arms, and maybe be followed by stinky feet, I don't know. I don't suffer that much from either. Under arm stink is caused by bacteria coming out of the pores, and stinky feet maybe related to sweat and synthetics. I keep feet dry most of the time and don't like to wear shoes and socks in daytime (in Thailand) unless raining and muddy, and bare feet round the house. Sandals at the door. I wear black shoes no laces when needed but almost never sneakers. I don't like the degree of being enclosed in them. Sports shoes, to me, are for playing sport. I just personally don't like them for casual or formal wear. Just me. They get grubby on the outside quite easily and not as easy to clean as normal office shoes.
I am aware that odours of garlic, onions etc. Can come out of people's pores, especially Europeans (yes) but it is usually more minor than acrid underarm stenches encountered in lifts for example. Thais eat a lot of garlic but they don't seem to stink of it much, I don't know why. Seems red meat could be a factor? Also asparagus and certain vegetables. I remember a Romanian family (by memory) that really ponged at a party when I was in early teens and wondering what they ate that caused it. Seemed to come out of their skin pores most likely. Having a sensitive nose is not a bonus. Possibly bacteria are having an effect not just on underarms.
Thais consider feet to be dirtiest part of the body, not sure that it makes difference what you are wearing, the feet are still dirty or low class. I don't see my Thai family members wearing socks, except with sneakers or full enclosed shoes for formal situations. None of them work in an office. The Thais say that wearing sneakers makes feet smelly even for Thais but they still wear them. So does not seem they consider feet will be cleaner than if wearing sandals necessarily.
Essentially you shower and clean everything including your feet before going after girls in the evening. Being well dressed can certainly make a difference.And everywhere you go the Foot Massage is the most popular with the tourists. I think 70% or more in Kho San Road and especially Patong Beach, Phuket.
I guess that is why they insist on washing the feet.
RL.
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And everywhere you go the Foot Massage is the most popular with the tourists. I think 70% or more in Kho San Road and especially Patong Beach, Phuket.
I guess that is why they insist on washing the feet.
RL.What is 70%? You are saving 70% of all Massages for Farangs is foot massage? Hard to imagine why they want that (at least for me). Something psychological about getting service?
Yes the feet are really dirty or smelly, or imagined so (culturally), and so washed. Thailand has a lot of dust, sand, mud, dog shit, and human stink, etc. Not sure what the point being made is?
Supposing a guy with massive underarm stink all sweaty goes for a massage indoors. Surely he will have to shower first. Massage a clean person is a better thing. I will always shower before attempting to fuck a girl even if I had a shower just one hour earlier. It is better they are confident that we are very clean. Thais really take a dim view of stinky guys trying to avoid taking a shower.
These are some things I learned:
I arrived at the airport about noon Wednesday. It was a long trek from the arrival gate to immigration. There were people-mover walkways most of the way. Immigration line was long, but they were efficient. Probably about 15 minutes to get through the line. The immigration officer didn't ask any questions. I think that may have been because I had filled out the immigration form completely. By the time I got through immigration, my bags had arrived and they were on the carousel just behind immigration. Got my bags and went through customs, with nothing to declare, very fast and easy. Just beyond customs, there are some ATM's. All the ATM's I have checked charge 220 baht per transaction, so it is best to get the max that you think you will need. There are money exchangers adjacent to the ATM's, belonging to the same bank. I changed one of the 1000 baht bills for smaller bills there, and the lady was eager to help.
I took the train to the Makkasan Station. The train station in the airport is two floors below the arrival area. There is no more express train to anywhere. The regular train cost 35 baht. Get the token out of a machine because there are no ticket booths. The token is like a plastic coin, scan it to get through the gate. Hold on to that token because you will need it to get out of the station where ever you are going. That is also true for the BTS train, but they issue a card. The train took 23 minutes to get from the airport to the Makkasan station. Street traffic was a mess outside the station. After waiting about 5 minutes, I found an empty taxi. Look for the light, with Thai letters, in the lower left corner of the windshield. The light being on indicates the taxi is vacant. I found out first hand that the taxi driver could not read a map and could not understand directions. He told me 200 baht fare before starting. It was a nice air conditioned taxi. He took me to three different hotels before getting to my hotel. He acted like any hotel that was listed on the map was the place I wanted to go. Vehicles travel on the left side of the road.
I am staying at the Smart Suites hotel in district 1 just around the corner from Insanity Nightclub. The hotel is girl friendly. In fact, the lady at the front desk encouraged me to bring a lady in last night. The standard room is a little small but it is comfortable. It has plenty of hot water, air conditioning, refrigerator, wifi, and two bottles of water each day. It is only $27.20 a night on agoda, com.
The BTS train is an above ground train that runs east and west through Bangkok. A single ticket costs 27 baht, and an all-day pass costs 140 baht.
Food is expensive. I checked a pizza place yesterday, and a large pepperoni pizza costs 750 baht (almost $25), and a single slice was 150 baht. I usually don't eat red meat, but I checked hamburger prices. The cheapest I have found at a sit-down restaurant is 310 baht, just for a hamburger, no sides. A breakfast buffet is probably the best price for food. They cost from 250 to 300 baht. At a non-buffet restaurant, I ordered a two egg omelet and hash browns and the price was 135 baht. That was the smallest omelet I have ever seen and the hash browns were two small triangles like you would get at a fast-food place. A bottle of water with that was 60 baht. There are some restaurants that have bottled water for 20 baht and from a sidewalk vendor, it is 10 baht. Beef, pork, chicken, and fish meals will cost at least 400 baht, even at a food court in a mall.
There are no pedestrian street crossing except at lights, and I've only seen traffic lights on the major streets. Traffic is so heavy that you can usually cross a street between vehicles. If you are going someplace on a major street, it is best to get a motorcycle taxi. They will go between cars to get you to your destination much faster than a taxi.
It is very hot here, day and night.
I will share information about the ladies in another post.
I took the train to the Makkasan Station. The train station in the airport is two floors below the arrival area. There is no more express train to anywhere. The regular train cost 35 baht. Get the token out of a machine because there are no ticket booths. The token is like a plastic coin, scan it to get through the gate. Hold on to that token because you will need it to get out of the station where ever you are going. That is also true for the BTS train, but they issue a card. The train took 23 minutes to get from the airport to the Makkasan station. Street traffic was a mess outside the station. After waiting about 5 minutes, I found an empty taxi. Look for the light, with Thai letters, in the lower left corner of the windshield. The light being on indicates the taxi is vacant. I found out first hand that the taxi driver could not read a map and could not understand directions. He told me 200 baht fare before starting. It was a nice air conditioned taxi. He took me to three different hotels before getting to my hotel. He acted like any hotel that was listed on the map was the place I wanted to go. Vehicles travel on the left side of the road.
I am staying at the Smart Suites hotel in district 1 just around the corner from Insanity Nightclub. The hotel is girl friendly. In fact, the lady at the front desk encouraged me to bring a lady in last night. The standard room is a little small but it is comfortable. It has plenty of hot water, air conditioning, refrigerator, wifi, and two bottles of water each day. It is only $27.20 a night on agoda, com.
The BTS train is an above ground train that runs east and west through Bangkok. A single ticket costs 27 baht, and an all-day pass costs 140 baht.
Food is expensive. I checked a pizza place yesterday, and a large pepperoni pizza costs 750 baht (almost $25), and a single slice was 150 baht. I usually don't eat red meat, but I checked hamburger prices. The cheapest I have found at a sit-down restaurant is 310 baht, just for a hamburger, no sides. A breakfast buffet is probably the best price for food. They cost from 250 to 300 baht. At a non-buffet restaurant, I ordered a two egg omelet and hash browns and the price was 135 baht. That was the smallest omelet I have ever seen and the hash browns were two small triangles like you would get at a fast-food place. A bottle of water with that was 60 baht. There are some restaurants that have bottled water for 20 baht and from a sidewalk vendor, it is 10 baht. Beef, pork, chicken, and fish meals will cost at least 400 baht, even at a food court in a mall.
There are no pedestrian street crossing except at lights, and I've only seen traffic lights on the major streets. Traffic is so heavy that you can usually cross a street between vehicles. If you are going someplace on a major street, it is best to get a motorcycle taxi. They will go between cars to get you to your destination much faster than a taxi.
It is very hot here, day and night.
I will share information about the ladies in another post.I don't want to appear too critical. As a newbie to Thailand we all have to make a few mistakes.
You should get an internet SIM card at the airport and then use Google Maps, because you don't know where anything is, right? Okay Go to some other shop for SIM card now.
With Google Maps, you would know the Smart Suites are very close to Makkasan, and you should show address to taxi driver. Hopefully can find one can read enough English. I agree some taxi drivers do not know how to read a map. So if he does not know your hotel could be a problem. More likely he decided to rip you off. He did not want to take someone so close for maybe 50 Baht.
You have to get taxis to use meter, and make sure they go in the right direction using Google Maps. It is true, there are one way roads so best way may not be direct from Makkasan. He probably should have used Soi 3 and then back Sois. Try to find out though what fares should cost in advance.
Food is not expensive in Thailand. Many things will be 5 times cheaper than a western country, but that applies to Thai Food. However no one would pay $25 for a Pizza, here normally. I don't normally eat Pizza in Thailand but I have eaten one at Little Italy on entrance to Soi 23, and I doubt would be as high as $10. Wild guess 200 Baht, which could be off either way. Too long ago.
There are places selling a piece of Pizza for maybe 40 or 50 Baht each. I sometimes get a burger in Soi Cowboy stand (at night) for 130 Baht maybe, that is with egg, bacon, salad, cooked onions, cheese just about everything. In the Sports pub nearby a bit more expensive, but a Pizza would be way under $25.
So you are choosing overly posh places to eat it seems, then complaining about the price. Maybe the forum can recommend some good priced eating places. Try some Sports pubs, you can find them on Google Maps. I sometimes go to Thai market areas and but prepared dishes in a plastic bag to take back to eat at my room. Some of these dishes whether stir fry or soup can cost only 40 Baht. So one can eat a meal exceedingly cheap if we want. Food courts where buy vouchers, have plenty of cheap options (Thai food). Foodland is a good place to order breakfast at a good price with western food available. There is one in Soi 5. German Pub in soi 11? (I might have that wrong) would have a good breakfast available.
Plenty of Cafes have reasonable prices. You should try to know the reasonable prices around before you decide. I don't generally recommend to order A la Carte at a Hotel, high price and standard questionable sometimes, but some Hotels maybe okay.
Yes if weather is okay, use motorcycle to get through the traffic short distances.
On the streets there are always people trying to find someone to rip off. So when a Thai accosts you and asks where you are going, just remember is he thinking of himself and not you most likely. I prefer to ask timid non aggressive people minding their own business.
So you can be given good info or bullshit. You really don't want to use taxi drivers that approach you. Hail a taxi going past is way better than one parked. Don't accept offers of guys wanting to take you sight seeing, to gem shops, to Massage Parlours etc. You need to decide where you are going by yourself, first. If the taxi tells you your destination restaurant is closed, he is probably making up a bullshit story.
Have to be sceptical all the time, especially if someone tells you its your lucky day. Ha ha. I get less problems, one because I speak thai, secondly years of being here, and thirdly very sceptical nature. I had to make mistakes as a newbie too, naturally. Taxis taking me not to where I wanted to go. Just one example.
Last piece of advice is very important. Thai working girls try to build up many western boyfriends to keep them supplied regularly with money. So you don't want for fall some Thai girl in a big hurry. Yes enjoy the fucking, but it takes years of knowing someone to find "real" love. My buddy married a girl he met on first day in Bangkok. She got citizenship in another country, took him to the cleaners, his house and car, and found a new boyfriend. He came back here, went to Cambodia and within 2 weeks had a new Girlfriend. She has used all his remaining money, hooked on Ice, had two babies, one his and one to someone else (on the side). He would 65+, she 25.
Thai girls are not all bad, it just takes a very long time to know if you found a good or bad one. I know a young pretty Laos girl now. I am too old for her. I like sex with her but I don't really know her deep down well. Met her maybe 1 year ago or so. No intention she should be a GF, just a Gik (girl on the side). Don't get Thai girls Pregnant. Abortion is against their religion, mostly.
Allow plenty of time for taxi to get to the airport. Traffic jams can be bad.
Member #4698
03-23-19, 13:49
I don't want to appear too critical. As a newbie to Thailand we all have to make a few mistakes.
It sounds like our new member is suffering from a little bit of culture shock. I hope he fairs better with the girls. Ha Ha. Actually I think BKK (Sukhumvit) is a pretty easy place to adjust to compared to other Asian watering holes like Jakarta, Phnom Penh or even Manila although you do have to look out for the BKK taxi sharks and it is not apparent where one should go for authentic, quality Thai food or even reasonably priced Western grub outside of the fast food joints unless one does some advance research. But FunLuvr will learn or he will leave BKK unhappy. Sink or swim. Full immersion. I love it!
So, good will hunting, FunLuvr. I hope you have the time of your life.
Actually I think BKK (Sukhumvit) is a pretty easy place to adjust to compared to other Asian watering holes like Jakarta, Phnom Penh or even Manila although you do have to look out for the BKK taxi sharks ...Yep. I found adjustment to Phnom Penh and Jakarta difficult. Hard to find good places to eat. The food was very different. Jakarta is also a very bad choice of a place to apply for a VISA to enter Thailand. They want too much information and take far too many days.
Banana Boi
03-23-19, 14:31
Yep. I found adjustment to Phnom Penh and Jakarta difficult. Hard to find good places to eat. The food was very different. PP has terrible food if you only stay near the RLD. I've tried many and the only recommendations I can make are Dot Grill and Riverside Restaurant. You have to go to Streets 302 to 360 to get good restaurants serving non Cambodian food. A scenic 60 baht tuk tuk ride.
Odd you say Jakarta doesn't have good food. Part of the reason why I like Bangkok and Jakarta is good eats. Tons and tons of amazing restaurants in large malls like Kota Kasablanka and Grand Indonesia. Great US Steakhouses like Holycow for 500 baht. If you are on a budget there are 100 baht dishes at Jonisteak all around the city including one right beside Classic Hotel. I would also recommend Ta Wan Chinese restaurant in Harris Vertu Harmoni but a bit pricy. Agree the Indo food sucks and all tastes the same imo.
Using Bluebird taxi and Grab also make Jakarta very easy to get around, unlike the scamming taxi drivers in Pattaya who want 200 baht for 1 km.
PP has terrible food if you only stay near the RLD. I've tried many and the only recommendations I can make are Dot Grill and Riverside Restaurant. You have to go to Streets 302 to 360 to get good restaurants serving non Cambodian food. A scenic 60 baht tuk tuk ride.
Odd you say Jakarta doesn't have good food. Part of the reason why I like Bangkok and Jakarta is good eats. Tons and tons of amazing restaurants in large malls like Kota Kasablanka and Grand Indonesia. Great US Steakhouses like Holycow for 500 baht. If you are on a budget there are 100 baht dishes at Jonisteak all around the city including one right beside Classic Hotel. I would also recommend Ta Wan Chinese restaurant in Harris Vertu Harmoni but a bit pricy. Agree the Indo food sucks and all tastes the same imo.
Using Bluebird taxi and Grab also make Jakarta very easy to get around, unlike the scamming taxi drivers in Pattaya who want 200 baht for 1 km.Agreed. Jakarta has plenty of good food. It is hard to miss even.
These are some things I learned:
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Food is expensive. I checked a pizza place yesterday, and a large pepperoni pizza costs 750 baht (almost $25), and a single slice was 150 baht. I usually don't eat red meat, but I checked hamburger prices. The cheapest I have found at a sit-down restaurant is 310 baht, just for a hamburger, no sides.
...Sounds like the pizza you're talking about is at Soho Pizza near the end of Sukhumvit Soi 11 before you round the corner to Insanity. It is delicious pizza, BTW. One of the best pepperoni pizzas I've had in Bangkok. That is where a slice is 150 baht and a whole pizza is 750 baht. But it is a HUGE pizza, almost twice the size of a whole pizza costing 300-350 baht elsewhere. The slices are fairly large, too. Two slices at 300 baht are probably about the size of a larger type individual pizza or medium size pizza you might pay 250 baht for elsewhere. But I'm betting these slices taste better.
The 310 baht hamburger with no sides also sounds like one of those mile high stacked burgers you get at, oh, maybe Firehouse, right across Soi 11 from Insanity. Personally, I'm not a fan of those burgers but they've got quite a following.
IMO, one of the best cheeseburgers you can get in the area is, believe it or not, right in Nana Plaza, at any one of the Stumble Inn group of bars; Stumble Inn, Big Hog Bar, Lucky Luke's, Nana Beer Garden, a couple of other places. Not to be confused with the burger at the Hillary bars, which, imo, is not as good. Anyway, if anyone reading this has not had one of those Stumble Inn/Big Hog Bar cheeseburgers in over a year or so and your memory of them is they weren't very good, you're right. They weren't very good up until about a year or so ago. They have improved greatly since then. Check them out. It is a large burger, good quality meat, very tasty, noticeably good cheddar cheese, soft fresh baked bun, includes a handful of pretty good french fries and misidentified "cole slaw" (it is actually just shredded lettuce, maybe a trace of cabbage in there somewhere, with a drizzle of mayonnaise on the top. I don't bother eating it). 220 baht. Worth it.
With Google Maps, you would know the Smart Suites are very close to Makkasan, and you should show address to taxi driver. Hopefully can find one can read enough English. I agree some taxi drivers do not know how to read a map. So if he does not know your hotel could be a problem. More likely he decided to rip you off. He did not want to take someone so close for maybe 50 Baht.I had a printed copy of a Google map showing the train station and the Smart Suites hotel. He couldn't read a printed copy which is a much larger map. You think he could read a very small map on a cell phone! When there were hardly any taxis available, I didn't have the option of pick and choose.
Food is not expensive in Thailand. Many things will be 5 times cheaper than a western country, but that applies to Thai Food. However no one would pay $25 for a Pizza, here normally.As the title of my post says, those were observations I made. I saw people paying 750 baht for a pizza. There are eight slices in a pizza, and if someone buys only a slice, it cost 150.
I have been in or looked at the menu of most of the restaurants on Soi 11 north of the BTS train and on two floors of restaurants in the Terminal 21 building. I know what I am talking about. As with most places, if you go outside the tourist areas, things are probably cheaper.
So you are choosing overly posh places to eat it seems, then complaining about the price. Try some Sports pubs, ...The restaurants on Soi 11 are not posh by my standards. Maybe they are by Thai standards. They are nice, clean restaurants, but not posh. Mullis Sports bar is the place I had the scrambled eggs and hash browns and water for 195 baht. I also ate at the Australian Pub and Restaurant. Six chicken wings were 215 and a beer was 140. That was not a bad price for the wings because they included both sections of the wings. Almost $5 for a bottle of beer is comparable to prices in the tourist areas of the United States.
Sounds like the pizza you're talking about is at Soho Pizza near the end of Sukhumvit Soi 11 before you round the corner to Insanity. It is delicious pizza, BTW. One of the best pepperoni pizzas I've had in Bangkok. That is where a slice is 150 baht and a whole pizza is 750 baht. But it is a HUGE pizza, almost twice the size of a whole pizza costing 300-350 baht elsewhere. The slices are fairly large, too. Two slices at 300 baht are probably about the size of a larger type individual pizza or medium size pizza you might pay 250 baht for elsewhere. But I'm betting these slices taste better.You are correct about the place. I was going to try one of the pepperoni slices last night, but they didn't have any and said it would be 15 minutes before any was ready. For comparison, I think their large is about the size of an extra large Domino's. It appears Soho does use real pepperoni, not salami like some other places.
I have been in or looked at the menu of most of the restaurants on Soi 11 north of the BTS train and on two floors of restaurants in the Terminal 21 building. I know what I am talking about. As with most places, if you go outside the tourist areas, things are probably cheaper.The restaurants in Terminal 21 are relatively expensive, as this is a high end shopping mall. However there's a cheap food court at the 5th floor. Prices starting from around 35 or 40 baht for a small meal. The quality is mediocre at best though.
Took Lae Dee in the Foodland supermarket in Soi 5 has cheap and reasonably good food. It's about 200 meters into the soi on your left hand side.
Look for 'Took Lae Dee, Sukhumvit 5 Alley' in Google Maps.
There are also some good options at the beginning of Soi 8, like Monsoon for example. Still relatively expensive but you can have a good meal and a beer for about 500 Baht. Including pizza ;-)
The BTS train is an above ground train that runs east and west through Bangkok. A single ticket costs 27 baht, and an all-day pass costs 140 baht.Actually the price of a single ticket depends on the distance you travel and can be higher or lower than 27 Baht. From Asok to Nana for example is only 16 Baht.
Does anyone have some advice or general guidelines on "renting" a girlfriend for a few weeks? I see lots of information coming from some guys that seems a bit lowball, and of course lots from the ladies that seems a bit upper limit. Does anyone have experience with this? I want to be fair. Even a little generous, but I always get the feeling if I quote a price, it's always much higher than what they usually accept. I know it's a complicated question and depends on a lot of factors, but I was just wondering if anyone had some advice or details they'd like to share.
Thanks a lot.
Food in the Suk area that is not stupidly tourist priced is hard to find, and Soi 11 is some of the worst. I don't eat down there often but here IMHO.
Burgers: The last burger I had down there was Taigers place and they sucked. Bullys is OK, just OK. Same with Kiwi. Kiwi has a nice Steak Sarnie that's almost US style.
Pizza: all overpriced yuk except for Vesuvio. The one under the BTS at Asoke is OK, but I never go there at night because of possible BIB action and I don't want to be pissing in a cup, Ja Irie.
Mexican. Margarita Storm. Superb.
Bamboo. Fabulous Rooskie food. Try the Plov when available and the Uzbek bread.
If I was staying down there, which I never would, but if I did I would, BTS out of there to Bang Rak or Silom or Ari or even Thong Lor.
Everything else is hit and miss down there. I find the Malls to be overpriced and farangy. ID rather eat at that place on Suk under the metal roofs past Soi 3. The street food in general in that area is not the best, although its hard to screw up noodle soup.
Took Lae Dee in the Foodland supermarket in Soi 5 has cheap and reasonably good food. It's about 200 meters into the soi on your left hand side.This is a good suggestion for a quick and frugal meal. No ++ pricing. Tell them you want water (found in pitchers on the counter) it is unlimited and free. Luxuriate in the air conditioning and people watch. Tip the coins you get back in change and Bob's your Uncle!
My suggestions would be:
1) Many schwarma stands around soi Arab serve up tasty chicken wraps for 60 baht. The best I found was on soi 3 adjacent to the Grace Hotel driveway.
2) Download the eatigo app and save up to 50% at participating restaurants. The "restaurants near me" search will list the available options in order, beginning with the closest to your current location.
3) For an introduction to the wonderous world of Thai street food (LOL) walk down soi 4 a ways, there will be options on both sides of the street.
SL.
I had a place for a month on Soi 11 in the Prime 11. Generally I agree, food prices and quality are shit but there are a few standouts.
Between Soho and Thaiger is a street vendor who makes the best Pad Thai I've eaten from a street cart. All the elements are well balanced and he really loads it up with the extras (chicken, egg, veggies) for 100 baht, you will be both full and happy. They are generally on the right hand side but sometimes, not often the left. It's the only pad thai cart I've seen down there.
In front of the parking lot for the japanese restos (shit all of them) is a lady selling fried chicken legs for 20 baht. They are pretty good, she spices up her batter and doesn't over cook the bird.
There is an Indian place down the alley across from el Goucho (which is not, I repeat NOT an Argentine parrilla and should be avoided at all costs) called Little Spicy that's pretty fucking good. It's a husband and wife operation, she speaks english, they are actually bangladeshi not Indian and if you ask her for suggestions just take them. Not cheap but not terrible. You're going to spend between 4-600 baht but you will be full and should be happy. In that same alley is a street vendor that makes a fiery fucking chicken red curry dish that's the shit.
Heading down the street towards Suk past the Au Bon Pain but not quite to the tourist trap on your right is a thai guy selling meatcicles (chicken, pork, and beef) they go for 40 a piece and are good.
Cross Suk to soi 8 on your left is a street cart that has a lot of tables with great soup and if you turn down the alley it kinda blocks (that doesn't show on maps) there is a place on your left that is good, not great but consistently good and very inexpensive. If the young (or old, I can never decide) girl tells you it's spicy it means you really shouldn't eat it unless you come from a tradition of REALLY spicy food. They have a spicy fish dish that I got against her advice and I had to run around the corner to 7-11 and buy some milk.
IMO, one of the best cheeseburgers you can get in the area is, believe it or not, right in Nana Plaza, at any one of the Stumble Inn group of bars; Stumble Inn, Big Hog Bar, Lucky Luke's, Nana Beer Garden, a couple of other places. Not to be confused with the burger at the Hillary bars, which, imo, is not as good. Anyway, if anyone reading this has not had one of those Stumble Inn/Big Hog Bar cheeseburgers in over a year or so and your memory of them is they weren't very good, you're right. They weren't very good up until about a year or so ago. They have improved greatly since then. Check them out. It is a large burger, good quality meat, very tasty, noticeably good cheddar cheese, soft fresh baked bun, includes a handful of pretty good french fries and misidentified "cole slaw" (it is actually just shredded lettuce, maybe a trace of cabbage in there somewhere, with a drizzle of mayonnaise on the top. I don't bother eating it). 220 baht. Worth it.Will have to give Stumble Inn another try then. Oddly enough, favorite place to sit and people watch. Stickman gave a review of Bus Stop down the soi for about the same price for a decent burger, fries, and beer.
Will have to give Stumble Inn another try then. Oddly enough, favorite place to sit and people watch. Stickman gave a review of Bus Stop down the soi for about the same price for a decent burger, fries, and beer.If you eat at the Stumble Inn group of bars often enough it might be worth purchasing one of their BKKFUNCARD memberships. One time only 200 baht charge. You give them your membership card when you hand them your check bin cup to settle up and they take 10% off your food bill. You will be asked to sign the discounted receipt later. There are times and certain drinks when you get the same discount off the drink portion of your bill, too. But I usually just get sodas, which don't qualify for the discount, so I am not sure about the particulars on that.
Be prepared for the server to warn you that there will be an additional 6-8% charge when you hand her the card. Just nod and ignore it. Don't get riled up trying to explain. The membership card looks like a credit card. But it can't be scanned or swiped like a credit card. She will realize her mistake when she takes it to the cashier. You will get a 10% discount on your food, maybe drinks, and there will be no 6-8% credit card charge on it. Most of the servers aren't familiar with that membership discount deal and rarely encounter a customer using it.
Yep. I found adjustment to Phnom Penh and Jakarta difficult. Hard to find good places to eat. The food was very different...I liked the food in Phnom Penh, as they have a good size French expat community. Many small French restaurants, all over the place, serving decent French food, IMO.
Robert Long
03-25-19, 07:36
If you eat at the Stumble Inn group of bars often enough it might be worth purchasing one of their BKKFUNCARD memberships. One time only 200 baht charge. You give them your membership card when you hand them your check bin cup to settle up and they take 10% off your food bill. You will be asked to sign the discounted receipt later. There are times and certain drinks when you get the same discount off the drink portion of your bill, too. But I usually just get sodas, which don't qualify for the discount, so I am not sure about the particulars on that.
Be prepared for the server to warn you that there will be an additional 6-8% charge when you hand her the card. Just nod and ignore it. Don't get riled up trying to explain. The membership card looks like a credit card. But it can't be scanned or swiped like a credit card. She will realize her mistake when she takes it to the cashier. You will get a 10% discount on your food, maybe drinks, and there will be no 6-8% credit card charge on it. Most of the servers aren't familiar with that membership discount deal and rarely encounter a customer using it.Don't you hate the 21% that many place on your bill? I tip at the ones that don't but when you have a date and the bill is 900 baht+ another 189 baht, or at better places when the bill is 1800 baht and they add 378 baht it pisses me off.
We have a place in Honolulu that adds 2% on the bill for the kitchen service. When I asked about that the waitress said that the kitchen works were stressed and they hopped this would help. It's a fuckin Malineals thing, those worthless shits that hang in Starbucks all day on their PC's.
I paid the upsell, but never to return. Moku's in Kakaako. Stay away.
RL.
Does anyone have some advice or general guidelines on "renting" a girlfriend for a few weeks? I see lots of information coming from some guys that seems a bit lowball, and of course lots from the ladies that seems a bit upper limit. Does anyone have experience with this? I want to be fair. Even a little generous, but I always get the feeling if I quote a price, it's always much higher than what they usually accept. I know it's a complicated question and depends on a lot of factors, but I was just wondering if anyone had some advice or details they'd like to share.
Thanks a lot.It depends on what you want and where you get her.
You can ask on Thai Friendly for a 'tour guide' and let them know you want them for the full week. If theyre interested, discuss it on the LINE app and make sure they know its a 'complete' deal. Others here may have more info on that.
Other than that, the best way to do it is to get a girl. Hire a freelancer or a gogo girl or beer bar girl. Have sex that night, and if its good, ask her if she'd like to be your 'tour guide' for the week.
Different girls will quote you different prices.
I did this on a trip in 2017 when I decided I wanted to see Bangkok and she charged me what she says was her 'bar fine' for each day of not showing up, 3000 baht. Of course, in reality she just quit that bar, and I'm pretty sire was planning to do that anyway, but it was still a good deal for me as it only cost me 3000 baht for a girlfriend. Who knew her way around Bangkok, took me to some cool tourist places, fucked my brains out each night, etc.
I got tired of it real quick, but, it was fun for a few.
Now I look at it as WHY would I ever want to settle for one girl on a trip to Thailand?
Heading down the street towards Suk past the Au Bon Pain but not quite to the tourist trap on your right is a thai guy selling meatcicles (chicken, pork, and beef) they go for 40 a piece and are good.That's what I'm talking about. 40 B for a meatsicle LOL. I can get then in IconSiam for 15 B for Gods Sake LOL.
In Lopburi, I was gobbling them down a 5 a pop. They are 10 b around my crib in Thonburiville.
Does anyone have some advice or general guidelines on "renting" a girlfriend for a few weeks? I see lots of information coming from some guys that seems a bit lowball, and of course lots from the ladies that seems a bit upper limit. Does anyone have experience with this? I want to be fair. Even a little generous, but I always get the feeling if I quote a price, it's always much higher than what they usually accept. I know it's a complicated question and depends on a lot of factors, but I was just wondering if anyone had some advice or details they'd like to share.
Thanks a lot.Factoring in the daily bar fine and what you would usually outlay for "Take care in bed " is a good starting point as to what is fair and reasonable.
As others in here have mentioned it's always nice to try as many girlfriends as possible in your few weeks.
Maybe freshen it up every three days?
But if you feel comfortable with just the same "girl friend" I can share my experience.
I picked up Pim from a beer bar in Samui. A tight bodied 26 yo 42 kg spinner originally from Korat. Great fun girl who knew Samui well. I had hired a pool villa for 6 days and took her back to give her a sound hiding. She was so good at all I wanted I asked her to come back the next day. No price was agreed upon just the 300 THB bar fine. She ended up staying with me for 5 days. Cooked me meals, took me out to dinner, sight seeing, fucked her when ever I wanted, got sucked off whenever I needed it, massaged me impromptu and cuddled me in bed every night. Again no mention of money except for the daily bar fine. She even asked if I wanted her friend to join us one night. "I like Lady".
Each afternoon I would discreetly place 3000 THB under her handbag and tell her that was her spending money. When I ran out of booze or anything else she would jump on her scooter and cruise off down the hill and use her money to buy said items.
I ended up buying her a bottle of Chanel as a thank you. Fucking great sexy chic.
My point is. Don't lock anything in, assess it daily.
YMMV and other Mongers may think I was being a bit too generous with the outlay (15,000 and an expensive bottle of perfume) but she was worth every Baht.
I would recommend a holiday girlfriend experience for those that want to see how these beautiful creatures go about life, but once was enough for me. These days I'm keen to flog as many hairy brown holes as I possibly can when time permits.
Happy hunting handsome man.
It depends on what you want and where you get her.
You can ask on Thai Friendly for a 'tour guide' and let them know you want them for the full week. If theyre interested, discuss it on the LINE app and make sure they know its a 'complete' deal. Others here may have more info on that.
Other than that, the best way to do it is to get a girl. Hire a freelancer or a gogo girl or beer bar girl. Have sex that night, and if its good, ask her if she'd like to be your 'tour guide' for the week.
Different girls will quote you different prices.
I did this on a trip in 2017 when I decided I wanted to see Bangkok and she charged me what she says was her 'bar fine' for each day of not showing up, 3000 baht. Of course, in reality she just quit that bar, and I'm pretty sire was planning to do that anyway, but it was still a good deal for me as it only cost me 3000 baht for a girlfriend. Who knew her way around Bangkok, took me to some cool tourist places, fucked my brains out each night, etc.
I got tired of it real quick, but, it was fun for a few.
Now I look at it as WHY would I ever want to settle for one girl on a trip to Thailand?Wow, 3000 baht per day?
And yeah, there are some times where I want to play the field when I am there. I have a few girls who have mentioned it to me, but I don't really trust them haha. Sometimes I just want a warm body always waiting in the hotel room. It doesn't mean I have to stick only with her of course. And of course my dream is for her to find someone to bring back to play with. (I know, a long shot I bet).
HorseTrader
04-02-19, 19:54
Over the last 2 years I've used my ThaiFriendly free membership for introductions and then I moved the conversation to Line or WhatsApp. In a very few cases the girl was listed as too popular and only premium members could write to those girls. Now it seems that premium membership is required to contact about 50% of the girls. Has ThaiFriendly changed or have I somehow been identified by ThaiFriendly as being restricted from contacting the better looking girls?
I understand that Thai new year is Apr 13 - 15. Will places like Tulip and Thermae be closed?
Robert Long
04-05-19, 06:46
Over the last 2 years I've used my ThaiFriendly free membership for introductions and then I moved the conversation to Line or WhatsApp. In a very few cases the girl was listed as too popular and only premium members could write to those girls. Now it seems that premium membership is required to contact about 50% of the girls. Has ThaiFriendly changed or have I somehow been identified by ThaiFriendly as being restricted from contacting the better looking girls?What happened to me with Thai Cupid is that when you drop your membership, they trigger your profile to appear to the ladies at a higher rate of show. This means that your profile is always on top and you get many interests. That makes you want to rejoin. But if you notice after you rejoin, the interests drop off.
I guess an algorithm is set to get you back.
RL.
I understand that Thai new year is Apr 13 - 15. Will places like Tulip and Thermae be closed?Apart from the question if these places are closed: do you really want to be in Thailand then? To see what I mean just do a search for 'Songkran' at Youtube.
Apart from the question if these places are closed: do you really want to be in Thailand then? To see what I mean just do a search for 'Songkran' at Youtube.I will be in Thailand. Not going to leave specially for it.
Last Songkran I was in the country village and again this year. No big deal. Previous year was in Bangkok for it, and managed to stay out of trouble mostly.
No big deal really for me. Just take a wide berth from Soi Cowboy, Nana Plaza and any crazy areas, I think.
There are plenty of things one does not have to get deeply involved in, up to you where you go.
If stay too close to the action, might be asking for it.
I never stay really close to the action. At least 5 minutes walk away.
Wow, 3000 baht per day?
And yeah, there are some times where I want to play the field when I am there. I have a few girls who have mentioned it to me, but I don't really trust them haha. Sometimes I just want a warm body always waiting in the hotel room. It doesn't mean I have to stick only with her of course. And of course my dream is for her to find someone to bring back to play with. (I know, a long shot I bet).3 K a day is a good deal, but.
Its simple, I reckon. You want to know a girl really well before taking her for multiple days. You want to be sure you like her so much, you won't get bored, and that she likes you enough as well.
I have taken girls for multiple days, yes. However first you do ST. Then and all night, then maybe more than one night in a row.
Finally you decide if you are compatible enough to go away to an exotic destination like Koh Chang, or Krabi, or Koh Tao, with the girl for multiple days, and yes it was a great time with my sweet sex bomb from the porn star MP years ago. Never regretted it for a moment. The danger is starting to like the girl just a bit too much. Some other guy grabbed her soon after that.
Some great holiday locations don't have much local talent available, so take your own. I would not do the same in Bangkok though. Too many options.
You can arrange 3-somes, even for a multi-day holiday perhaps, if you know both girls extremely well, and have taken them for 3-some more than once and seen they get on famously. Only money limits what is possible. A little more risky though. I reckon it could work with my two Shark girls, but would have to have two bedrooms. One girl claims she can't actually sleep at all with a guy in her room. She can fuck yes, but not sleep. Ha ha. No big deal. I could get adjoining rooms.
Guys I am finally returning to Thailand after some years and I am looking to rent a place for 3 months. I want to train some Muay Thai and of course enjoy a bit of umm nightlife but I do not want to pay exorbitant foreign prices. Do you guys know of any long term rental places to check outside of airbnb?
Guys I am finally returning to Thailand after some years and I am looking to rent a place for 3 months. I want to train some Muay Thai and of course enjoy a bit of umm nightlife but I do not want to pay exorbitant foreign prices. Do you guys know of any long term rental places to check outside of airbnb?There are plenty of web sites for rental, but I guess if you use English language ones, you will automatically be considered a tourist for a tourist area. I don't think rental rates vary much though between websites in Thai Language and in English (at least for my experience in Bangkok). They just want someone who will pay reliably and not trash the place.
Even Hotel booking sites and deals available to rent non serviced for longer periods.
Often the gym that teaches muay thai will have rooms for rent or will have recommendations for cheap hotels. Look on the muay thai website. Phuket has great muay thai gyms. I paid $330 usd for a month when I was there. Found the place on a muay thai website. Pm me if you want more details.
Guys I am finally returning to Thailand after some years and I am looking to rent a place for 3 months. I want to train some Muay Thai and of course enjoy a bit of umm nightlife but I do not want to pay exorbitant foreign prices. Do you guys know of any long term rental places to check outside of airbnb?
Guys I am finally returning to Thailand after some years and I am looking to rent a place for 3 months. I want to train some Muay Thai and of course enjoy a bit of umm nightlife but I do not want to pay exorbitant foreign prices. Do you guys know of any long term rental places to check outside of airbnb?Book a place for 1 or maybe 2 nights and then visit places close by or even the place you're in and negotiate for a long-term stay.
I did this in Vientiane when I had a 6-week assignment. I booked a mid-range hotel for 2 nights through Hotels.com and on the first morning of my 2-day stay I spoke to the manager about long-term options. And he dropped 20% off the room rate that I was paying, upgraded me to a better room and threw in free laundry for my entire stay. It turned out to be a great deal and I used it again on 2 other occasions. It shows how much the hotels are gouged by the booking sites for him to do this for me.
The key was the personal approach. It might be less difficult to do on the telephone.
There's a question I've been thinking. Please share if you know about it for general knowledge so that everyone knows. How do porn videos like Creampie Thais, Asian street meat, etc. In Thailand can film having sex with ladies? They film the girls openly even with their face in the video & it is illegal in Thailand to make porn videos. The reason why I asked is I want to film for my own memory. I have no intention to share them with anyone else since I can't do it because of my career. I understand that nobody want to be seen especially in porn video including myself. It is only for my personal use. Have anyone of you film / record video having sex with your Thai girl? I've been wondering how do those people get the ladies to film porn video? Where do they get those ladies from? How can I do it? Thanks.
CAT is a government Telecom company. It is not well known but they have great Package where you can pay for 1 month or 6 months or a year in one go for a mobile phone SIM card "my" CAT "my 4G". CAT runs the towers so has best reception throughout Thailand.
Various speeds available including 4, 6 , and 8 Mbps.
My girlfriend's brother downloads several full movies a day to his phone. No drop in speed. Great for video watching, e. G. Football replays, etc. Porn no problem. I know he does a lot of that. LOL. Most well known companies detect big downloads and throttle you.
I will get my own CAT card, when this one runs out of the 6 months. I will probably do the great deal to pay once per year. I m using phone hotspot to give Internet to my laptop and doing my work. It is performing better than the home fixed line in remote Thailand.
Many calls per month included I think. More than I could ever use. Mostly we are using Line, Whatsapp etc. , few traditional calls.
Unfortunately web site English is not that extensive, but enquire at CAT office, Mon-Fri 8. 30 to 4 PM. I have no business connection. 2nd floor Times Square
http://www.mybycat.com/en/PrePay.php?package=90_%E0%B9%81%E0%B8%9E%E0%B9%87%E0%B8%81%E0%B9%80%E0%B8%81%E0%B8%88%E0%B9%80%E0%B8%AA%E0%B8%A3%E0%B8%B4%E0%B8%A1-my-%E0%B9%80%E0%B8%99%E0%B9%87%E0%B8%95%E0%B9%80%E0%B8%9E%E0%B8%A5%E0%B8%B4%E0%B8%99-1,-4,-6-Mbps
I used to get sick of bad internet through AIS, BB, True, etc, whether in hotels, Apartments, in Bangkok, or in the Country.
So far my borrowed CAT SIM is qiving me much better than what I used to. No speed drops!
6 months at 6Mbps no speed reductions is 1800 Baht. 4Mbps is cheaper. Pay for the year and more discount.
Mr Enternational
04-28-19, 23:16
I've been wondering how do those people get the ladies to film porn video? Where do they get those ladies from? Money. Same place you get all the other ones from.
Money. Same place you get all the other ones from.How much does it cost? Have you done it?
Crocodilexp
04-29-19, 00:36
It is only for my personal use. Have anyone of you film / record video having sex with your Thai girl? I've been wondering how do those people get the ladies to film porn video? Where do they get those ladies from? How can I do it? Thanks.There's no specific place or procedure, simply ask the woman if she's willing to do it. You can claim it's for your own personal use, but I doubt most would believe you, since everybody would claim that.
I never took videos, but before the widespread use of smartphones (5-10 years ago), taking photos was easy, you could simply ask. Almost all the ladies were ok with normal photos (enough for me, I just like to remember who I've been with), with some being fine with nudity or xxx action ones as well.
However, these days everyone knows that photos and videos can get around in an instant, and very few girls are willing to risk it, mostly those who have nothing to lose. Face and plausible deniability matter in Thailand, so even a girl who has no problem doing extreme PSE acts wouldn't want the papa, brothers and school friends back in the village to see her getting rammed by old Farang cocks on video. Offering more money can sometimes help, but might not be as effective as you'd expect.
As far as I know, all porn is illegal in Thailand, including watching porn on the internet. There have been cases of Farang pornographers caught in the past, and police doesn't take kindly to that, again due to face and reputation issues.
As far as I know, all porn is illegal in Thailand, including watching porn on the internet. There have been cases of Farang pornographers caught in the past, and police doesn't take kindly to that, again due to face and reputation issues.Any sort of shit with under the legal age girls, and get caught, then serious trouble. So critical you (I mean guys in general wanting to film porn) make sure girls are old enough. Most Thai mature girls will be aware porn could easily appear on internet and all their relatives could see it. That reduces chances, however enough money can buy it. Drug addict girls will do anything to get money for habits I am sure.
If guys are willing to have girls with no identifying marks, and wearing masks to cover the face, then much easier to set up. Girls are willing if they definitely cannot be identified.
Known porn stars have a hard time living it down for the rest of their lives. Nong Nat is a famous very well known porn star with big boobs. Everyone here has heard of per porn exploits. Not many Thai girls want to be known for being a porn star. Still you get these girls appearing in street meat etc. Not very smart girls.
Suicides occur after bad guys posted video or nude pics of ex GFs on facebook etc. This is well known too.
Sure I would love to have nude pics of all my favourite girls of the past so their memory does not fade. However I think impractical. I don't think it is important that is a video of performing sex. Still I can see guys want to be able to relive their best experiences in some way. Not easy.
I do have nude pics of my GF in her prime, for my private use. So long ago, she even forgot that I have them. I can still see how fucking cute she was in 2005, and in various other years not nude. Certainly could not have got her to agree to porn movies though. That is going too far.
Years ago was much easier to pics of girls naked and even doing porn style things, because they were not very aware of the internet and the possibility that someone who knows them might see it. I took a few dirty pics myself long ago. In the modern day I think the pic gallery shows that Ugly girls are easier to persuade to do dirty pics, although I don't look in the pic gallery any more. These days I have pics of my best girls but not nude. I certainly don't want to post them on the internet. If was safe that girl could never find out, then maybe. Does anyone respect a girl willing to do porno shots? I think not. If society was different and it was all well accepted, then fine, but otherwise keep the porno action hidden behind closed doors.
I love beautiful naked girls, live or on film. Seeing dick getting BBBJs does not interest me slightly, even if was my own dick. We once had Moebius on this forum, so Narcissist that he published numerous picks of his dick, with girls maybe included in the background of the pic, but no pussy at all, and dick always the centre of the pic. He left after I pointed we are not gays and we don't want to see his dick, no matter how proud he was of it. I would much rather see a pretty pussy. His handle Moebius indicated that his dick was so long, he thought he could tie a knot in it. He should have instead showed all the girls his dick and scared them off, although from his pics, was not sure if he ever put it in a pussy. I wonder if guys needing to appear in porn, have a narcissist tendency. I know I am old and average looking. I don't think porn with me in it would be very attractive, better be just the girl. I guess POV porn, we can film a girl getting it, without us really being in the shot that much. So I would probably watch my girl getting fucked a few times (by part of me in picture). Not sure how quickly it would be boring. The problem, is just my regulars cannot be asked to perform this. They would be quite shocked. Girls always want assurances that pics of them won't go anywhere at all, and that is the clothed pics.
CAT is a government Telecom company. It is not well known but they have great Package where you can pay for 1 month or 6 months or a year in one go for a mobile phone SIM card "my" CAT "my 4G". CAT runs the towers so has best reception throughout Thailand.
Various speeds available including 4, 6 , and 8 Mbps.
Got a My Cat SIM card with 6 Mbps Internet (no speed reductions), just under 2000 Baht for 6 months (or equivalent to 367 Baht per month). Calls are half a Baht per minute, or free to My CAT Friends. No OS use, other than can connect to friends OS over the internet of course. Will get my GF and daughter onto CAT too so calls can be free and they can watch all the movies theey want with great reception even if not home using the landline and wifi. To be honest the speed is better even that the home landline internet with wifi router. Easy to compare by playing a football match or porn or any other video.
Do any other Telecoms here have anything comparible? AIS tried to persuade me not to migrate, but too late, their reception and speed on 4G has been shit in comparison. Now I can watch all the sports video etc. With no worries, and not stop-starting all the time. Right now am using it on my Laptop. Don't even bother with the Hotel internet (usually not the best in most places).
Getting by the month is also possible, I just did not want the hassle to top up every month.
Then you have phone Apps to watch TV and download Movies, etc. all the Torrent sites, Live.net.tv, Show Box, etc. I see GOT Episode 3 is available. Most pirated show in the world. I once tried to subscribe properly, but was just too hard to do it in Thailand.
Houston Player
04-29-19, 13:29
Getting by the month is also possible, I just did not want the hassle to top up every month.I looked at their website, They also have post paid plans, you don't have to go with prepaid and top up.
I looked at their website, They also have post paid plans, you don't have to go with prepaid and top up.Yeh fine. I prefer to pay up front, then I don't have to top up again for 6 months. I put 200 Baht extra which will cover 400 minutes of normal phone calls, which I will never reach for ages. Most calls are with Line App Internet for me. So I just don't want to receive bills and pay after that.
To night with My Cat SIM, I got on to Show Box App, saw Game of Thrones Ep 3 was there, and started watching it immediately. I have to admit there were stop and starts for first 20 minutes, then I went briefly to have a shave, came back and hit start again. From minute 20 to the end 93rd minute then played smoothly with no stops, so I can't quite identify what problem was initially, but I think it maybe my very old Galaxy 5 phone rather than the SIM. The phone is known to hang for brief periods. Time for a new one. I have seen my GF's brother download a full episode off Torrent site in 15 to 20 minutes max. In full definition. I have never been able to watch video like that with my old SIM cards even on 4 G, although maybe they do have some high speeds at a high price per month.
After GOT was done, went out to get a nice Girl. She came back to my room, and was very very enjoyable. So a pleasant evening starting with roast duck from Tong Kee restaurant under Asoke BTS opposite terminal 21. Hence late to sleep and yet I have to get up early.
Houston Player
04-30-19, 03:45
Yeh fine. I prefer to pay up front, then I don't have to top up again for 6 months.The post wasn't in response to you or just for your benefit. I was posting the information for anyone who might be interested in the My Cat sim card.
The post wasn't in response to you or just for your benefit. I was posting the information for anyone who might be interested in the My Cat sim card.I said "Yeh Fine". I was wondering if you were trying to claim that Post Paid was a better option, perhaps not, just an option. I gave my personal preference, however everyone can make their own choice.
The main thing is people should realise there is a good alternative to Dtac, Ais, and True, where my experience with reception, connection stability, and playing video has not been great.
The main thing is people should realize there is a good alternative to Dtac, Ais, and True, where my experience with reception, connection stability, and playing video has not been great.Today watched a movie "Cold Pursuit" in live streaming mode with no glitches no pauses, on my old galaxy phone at 6 Mbps. That was way better than my home Internet performance. I never got to to watch high definition video in continuous mode before via a phone. Will be great for football matches live or replays. I won't have to top up again for 168 days. Works out to just under 400 Baht per month for me and that includes normal calls for half Baht per minute. I believe will get a message to warn when the time is coming up. 1 year period was available for 4 Mbps. 8 mbps is available but only only on a monthly Package I think. That allows them to change the price when they decide. One could top up for the long term and simply have them deduct so much each month I guess. I will consider changing package in 6 months if I decide 6 mbps is not fast enough. Ha ha.
Obviously Porn streams pretty good too.
I am keen to hear if the competitors can be this good too, or is it only "My Cat".
Normally I bring my own Italian coffee into Thailand in suitcase at very good prices from Europe. Packs of ground 100% Arabica.
Now I see I can get 200 gm or 250 gm packs 100% Arabica at Villa Markt (Giovanni brand and something from Chiang Mai) or at Tesco-Lotus can get Columbian, Guatemala etc. For maybe 189 Baht (occasionally less when they have a special). Is there a normally cheaper possibility with good flavor coffee grounds? I only want 100% Arabica.
I usually avoid anything labelled "Espresso" here, because that is the local euphemism for a rougher Blend with Robusta.
In the province, it is quite difficult to get good coffee at a good price. Makro has a fairly poor selection, mostly Robusta blends. So I have to load my suitcase here in Bangkok before going back to the province.
Don't have a trip to Italy right now, otherwise would come back with loads of coffee and some cheap bottles of vodkha etc.
Robert Long
05-02-19, 02:04
Normally I bring my own Italian coffee into Thailand in suitcase at very good prices from Europe. Packs of ground 100% Arabica.
Now I see I can get 200 gm or 250 gm packs 100% Arabica at Villa Markt (Giovanni brand and something from Chiang Mai) or at Tesco-Lotus can get Columbian, Guatemala etc. For maybe 189 Baht (occasionally less when they have a special). Is there a normally cheaper possibility with good flavor coffee grounds? I only want 100% Arabica.
I usually avoid anything labelled "Espresso" here, because that is the local euphemism for a rougher Blend with Robusta.
In the province, it is quite difficult to get good coffee at a good price. Makro has a fairly poor selection, mostly Robusta blends. So I have to load my suitcase here in Bangkok before going back to the province.
Don't have a trip to Italy right now, otherwise would come back with loads of coffee and some cheap bottles of vodkha etc.A real scam from the Isle of Bali.
The coffee bean is eaten by the Luwak animal, kind of a squirrel or Mongoose. The animal shits out the beans and the manufacture cleans and dry's the beans to grind or sell as Luwak Coffee.
They sell tons of this at many tourist traps. I just can't believe that they have enough animals to produce the enormous amounts that they are selling. Having done business in Bali of 20 years I can attest to the fact that Indonesians will sell you a monkey and tell you it's a cat.
RL.
A real scam from the Isle of Bali.
The coffee bean is eaten by the Luwak animal, kind of a squirrel or Mongoose. The animal shits out the beans and the manufacture cleans and dry's the beans to grind or sell as Luwak Coffee.
They sell tons of this at many tourist traps. I just can't believe that they have enough animals to produce the enormous amounts that they are selling. Having done business in Bali of 20 years I can attest to the fact that Indonesians will sell you a monkey and tell you it's a cat.
RL.I drank that civet coffee. Kopi Lawak, about 20 years ago. I recall that it had a really sweet aroma and was not overly bitter. I think it's quite expensive these days. I'd be interested in trying it again as my palate has matured more, however I agree with RL regarding Indonesian business practices and I may end up drinking monkey crap.
A real scam from the Isle of Bali.
The coffee bean is eaten by the Luwak animal, kind of a squirrel or Mongoose. The animal shits out the beans and the manufacture cleans and dry's the beans to grind or sell as Luwak Coffee.
They sell tons of this at many tourist traps. I just can't believe that they have enough animals to produce the enormous amounts that they are selling. Having done business in Bali of 20 years I can attest to the fact that Indonesians will sell you a monkey and tell you it's a cat.
RL.In Thailand the expensive one is the Coffee beans hand picked from Elephant Dung:
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/photo-essays/2017-01-27/world-s-priciest-coffee-is-hand-picked-from-elephant-dung
Too gimmicky for me. I drink so much coffee that low price for good quality becomes important. Don't want to pay 100 Baht for a very moderate standard coffee in a coffee shop. Can get a 50 baht one but the Thais don't make it how I like it.
There was a nice boutique coffee shop with health food in Soi 19 but it closed.
Talked to a long time in Thailand, knowledgeable guy last night and he said he gets his coffee sent in from Hong Kong. Sounds like the good options here are not that good. Thailand taxes the shit out of imported coffee to make the price ridiculous. Protecting the Thai coffee business. Seems to be very acidic tasting coffee to come out of Chiang Mai and the North and not always a great price. Tesco's South American coffees tastes better. There is no coffee grown in Italy yet "Italian" coffee is good and a good price.
See Tops supermarket having Illy coffee 250 gm for 500 Baht plus (or was it 800) makes me laugh. Still the long term guy here, told me he saw Pomelo fruit (Som-Oh in Thai) for several hundred Baht in Emporium yesterday. On roadside in Thailand it is probably 30 Baht (at a wild guess), and I don't even like it that much. Rip off prices abound here if you buy in the wrong place. Chocolates in the Thai airport are probably sold duty free at 4 times the real price overseas. So I think King Power takes my prize for being a rip off company, without having looked at any high so stuff in Emporium, etc.
So worth researching where to get stuff at a good price, if are consuming regularly. Coffee being my first priority.
Today tried "Duang Dee" (means "portents well for the future" or "lucky stars") 250 gm 100% Arabica from hilltribes Karen, Lahu, Lisu and Hmong in the north. Bought at Tops Supermarket, Asoke. Very black roast. Taste was a bit acidic but quite tolerable (better than Robusta blends). I made filter coffee. Don't have an Espresso machine in suitcase. Ha ha. Just funnel, filter paper and small electric jug.
Price was 102 Baht. Not too bad. Good value for money, even if taste not top. The ones 3 to 5 times higher price are not 3 to 5 times better. I could mix with a mello OS coffee to soften it a bit (had some other coffees in the suitcase), but am used to fairly strong coffee (with milk to take the edge off). If you like strong coffee taste, give it a try. Melo coffee drinkers, maybe don't bother.
Some other coffees available with 100% Arabica are more expensive but they won't even say where the beans came from. Giovanni was a good example, packed in Surawong road, bean origin unknown, nothing to do with Italy. Its barcode starts 885 (a product of Thailand). Italy starts 800 to 839, Guatemala 740 etc.
StLouisMo2010
05-02-19, 22:45
This is the first "post" of my recent Thailand Trip (3/30-4/10). I will break down the Trip Report into a number of sections including: General, Bangkok, Hau Hin, Hotels, Pattaya.
This is my 8th trip to Thailand over the past 40 years, I have been to BKK and Pattaya the past three years with similar itinerary. I am a North American business type, not a Cheap Charlie, but I don't throw money around either, and would not characterize myself as a Monger, rather a single guy on holiday enjoying companionship.
There are many ways to "save" small amounts of money which are discussed on the Forum, but use prospective- we have invested in the time and highest cost of the trip to fly to Thailand, so trying to save a few Baht / Dollars / Pounds / Etc. Sometimes seems counter productive in the overall enjoyment of a Holiday. Remember what a lady may cost you at home, it may off set the urge to negotiate that last 100 Baht, but we don't want to spoil them or act like some Asian men on holiday when it comes to money.
Some observations for those new to Thailand, and reminders to frequent visitors:
It is hot and sticky, depend on wearing nice shorts, t-shirts during the day, collar shirt at night, I bring packages of "wet wipes", and "wash clothes" as most hotels do not have these. I also bring two large colored towels which are great for covering the bed for massages, and the girls love them to wrap up with after a shower.
I buy a bottle of "duty free" booze that does not need mixer for in room libations, decent liquor in Thailand is high priced.
Obtain Line ID on your phone in advance, indicate in your profile when you will be in Thailand, most girls really want to only 'chat' with you if you are in country, so this helps.
Change a little money at the Airport, (on arrival level) - enough for Taxi town and tips, additional money can be changed in Town at a better rate than the airport.
I have never changed my Phone SIM card during my visits, for Business and Family reasons. I have never needed to use a Thai telephone number, I use Line ID or APPS- Thai Friendly, Tinder, Whatsapp. Wi-Fi is available everywhere, and if you are out and about you can go into a bar / restaurant and have an employee give you their Wi-Fi password (they even usually put it into your phone for you).
Prearranged Taxi transfer to BKK City was 800 Baht- about 1 HR. With traffic congestion.
I tip the Maid and Doorman / Bellman on arrival, (100 Baht) which generally insures plenty of extra towels, and normally available Hotel Tut Tut for transportation and assistance in the Lobby and Front Door.
One comment which many Senior Members will say over and over again is not to over plan your trip. There are so many things to do, and so many women if you want them, you do not need to create an itinerary down to the last detail, and it will allow you to 'go with the flow' in what you are doing.
Thai Women- the pictures you see on Thai Friendly, Thai Cupid, Tinder and other sites are either the best the girls have or they are photo shopped. Don't be surprised when they show up at your door, or they wake up in the morning not looking like a 8, 9, or 10.
Thai ladies in my opinion, are attractive, some of the world's best, but they are not all models- most have small boobs, many have past or current complexion problems, many wear lots of make up. About 90% will be single mothers which can have significant impact on their stomachs and boobs.
Thai Women- age range: you can be fooled easily- a 45 year old can look like a 35 year old. And the most ladies available are 30-40, the most horny seem to be 40-45- they really seem to want it. The early 30's, 'massage girl next door', when you get her out of her normal environment of a shared room at a MP, into your hotel room, seems to make the very best GFE and best in bed IMO, especially at 1200-1500 Baht ST /2000 LT (Pattaya rates).
Today tried "Duang Dee" (means "portents well for the future" or "lucky stars") 250 gm 100% Arabica from hilltribes Karen, Lahu, Lisu and Hmong in the north. Bought at Tops Supermarket, Asoke. Very black roast. Taste was a bit acidic but quite tolerable (better than Robusta blends). I made filter coffee. Don't have an Espresso machine in suitcase. Ha ha. Just funnel, filter paper and small electric jug.
Price was 102 Baht. Not too bad. Good value for money, even if taste not top. The ones 3 to 5 times higher price are not 3 to 5 times better. I could mix with a mello OS coffee to soften it a bit (had some other coffees in the suitcase), but am used to fairly strong coffee (with milk to take the edge off). If you like strong coffee taste, give it a try. Melo coffee drinkers, maybe don't bother.
Some other coffees available with 100% Arabica are more expensive but they won't even say where the beans came from. Giovanni was a good example, packed in Surawong road, bean origin unknown, nothing to do with Italy. Its barcode starts 885 (a product of Thailand). Italy starts 800 to 839, Guatemala 740 etc.Have you not already done so, I would suggest you try coffee from Lao. The Bolavan plateau near Pakse grows some of the finest coffee I have tried. It is well worth while getting hold of some.
Robert Long
05-03-19, 02:44
Today tried "Duang Dee" (means "portents well for the future" or "lucky stars") 250 gm 100% Arabica from hilltribes Karen, Lahu, Lisu and Hmong in the north. Bought at Tops Supermarket, Asoke. Very black roast. Taste was a bit acidic but quite tolerable (better than Robusta blends). I made filter coffee. Don't have an Espresso machine in suitcase. Ha ha. Just funnel, filter paper and small electric jug.
Price was 102 Baht. Not too bad. Good value for money, even if taste not top. The ones 3 to 5 times higher price are not 3 to 5 times better. I could mix with a mello OS coffee to soften it a bit (had some other coffees in the suitcase), but am used to fairly strong coffee (with milk to take the edge off). If you like strong coffee taste, give it a try. Melo coffee drinkers, maybe don't bother.
Some other coffees available with 100% Arabica are more expensive but they won't even say where the beans came from. Giovanni was a good example, packed in Surawong road, bean origin unknown, nothing to do with Italy. Its barcode starts 885 (a product of Thailand). Italy starts 800 to 839, Guatemala 740 etc.The most popular coffee maker in the US is the Keurig. It uses a pod with freshly ground coffee or you can get a basket that fits in the machine that you load with your favorite blend. These are single cup machines and are very good. The market for the plastic prefilled pods has become quite competitive, as all major coffee brans are in supply.
The major drawback for me and others is the plastic pod. We do not need more plastic throw away items in our landfills. The second is the only single cup serving. But to my taste this is the best coffee maker for home use without spending hundreds of dollars on an expresso machine.
I stay in condos and I use Starbucks instant which is pretty dam good considering it's an instant coffee. Starbucks spent a lot of money developing the instant and it payed off. I also use honey as a sweetener that brings out the flavor in the coffee. Same as putting lime on local papayas brings out the sugar in the fruit.
Thanks for the tip on Tops market coffee. I'll take some home.
RL.
The most popular coffee maker in the US is the Keurig. It uses a pod with freshly ground coffee or you can get a basket that fits in the machine that you load with your favorite blend. These are single cup machines and are very good. The market for the plastic prefilled pods has become quite competitive, as all major coffee brans are in supply.
The major drawback for me and others is the plastic pod. We do not need more plastic throw away items in our landfills. The second is the only single cup serving. But to my taste this is the best coffee maker for home use without spending hundreds of dollars on an expresso machine.
I stay in condos and I use Starbucks instant which is pretty dam good considering it's an instant coffee. Starbucks spent a lot of money developing the instant and it payed off. I also use honey as a sweetener that brings out the flavor in the coffee. Same as putting lime on local papayas brings out the sugar in the fruit.
Thanks for the tip on Tops market coffee. I'll take some home.
RL.There are so many excellent coffee shops in Bangkok now. Truly becoming a world class coffee city. Follow #cafehoppingbkk on Instagram and you'll find some great cups of coffee.
I stay in condos and I use Starbucks instant which is pretty dam good considering it's an instant coffee. Starbucks spent a lot of money developing the instant and it payed off. I also use honey as a sweetener that brings out the flavor in the coffee. Same as putting lime on local papayas brings out the sugar in the fruit.
Thanks for the tip on Tops market coffee. I'll take some home.
Once you get away from Instant (even a better one), it is hard to go back, also once you get away from sugar in coffee, it is hard to go back, Milk has a slight sweetening effect on the coffee, enough for me. I don't really like honey at all, but that is personal taste.
I do squeeze lime on various fruits, Papaya, Pineapple, Mango etc. Does it bring the sweetness out? Okay If you see that way. It can stop cut bananas and apples etc. From browning. I just like the extra tang, same like a Gin & Tonic is greatly improved by Lime for me. A UK Guy told me Gin and Tonic must have Lemon (lime is just wrong. Ha ha. However I prefer lime myself). The fruit can go off after lime squeezed on if don't eat it same day. My Mrs told me that, so I guess she knows. Low sugar Caiparinha is one of my favourite drinks, very lime sour please. My Mrs likes Vodka, lime juice, and sweetened with some local fruit cordials in many flavours (could be lime, passionfruit, Lychee, etc. Flavours) and you can see the bottles of those on ice drink stands around Bangkok. I keep to very low sugar and starches per day, if possible.
I drank that civet coffee. Kopi Lawak, about 20 years ago. I recall that it had a really sweet aroma and was not overly bitter. I think it's quite expensive these days. I'd be interested in trying it again as my palate has matured more, however I agree with RL regarding Indonesian business practices and I may end up drinking monkey crap.Last trip in Vietnam and drank weasel coffee and brought back beans for grinding. I loved its full, chocolately flavour. Admittedly they are likely farmed for this, but very nice and preferable to my daily Italian shots. Pity so pricey outside Vietnam, online etc.
Last trip in Vietnam and drank weasel coffee and brought back beans for grinding. I loved its full, chocolately flavour. Admittedly they are likely farmed for this, but very nice and preferable to my daily Italian shots. Pity so pricey outside Vietnam, online etc.I bring in Caramel flavoured 100% Arabica coffee (not sweet at all) from OS, and mix with regular Arabica coffees to boost flavour a bit. Also mix some Dalmayer or Cafe Hag (or Vittoria) Decaffeinated 100% Arabica (tastes OK not like instant) to reduce my total Caffeine intake. So essentially I am doing my own blends, but never use Robusta in blend at all (it is the low class cheap one and grown lower down the mountains). The Chocolatey taste sounds interesting. Would try if was a good price. Ha ha. I have noticed Hazelnut flavoured and vanilla flavoured back home but I hate Hazelnuts, and Vanilla was just so so.
When you buy a coffee and tastes very metallic / acidic, chances are it includes Robusta. Normally my Sport Pub had reasonable coffee although always had to tell the girls how to make it, but last time I had to suspect latest beans fill contained part Robusta as flavour made me pull a screwed up face. Metallic / acidic taste. Certainly did not want a 2nd cup.
In Germany, Tschibo shop sells some very nice tasting coffee beans or grounds. I like their South American stuff. My suitcase usually has their stuff. So taste matters and a good price helps a lot.
Banana Boi
05-11-19, 01:42
https://www.pattayaone.news/another-foreigner-thai-marriage-con/
There's a sucker born every minute. Personally I have no idea why any foreigner would ever send money overseas to a girl. Maybe someone can enlighten me why this is done.
https://www.pattayaone.news/another-foreigner-thai-marriage-con/
There's a sucker born every minute. Personally I have no idea why any foreigner would ever send money overseas to a girl. Maybe someone can enlighten me why this is done.I run for the hills if they ask for a loan for rent, college, medicine, sick father, mother, son etc. At the risk of sounding like a hard ass we all have our problems so fix it yourself. Some may argue that they have a generous spirit but the Thai bar girl is a formidable opponent when it comes to extracting money from a farang.
https://www.pattayaone.news/another-foreigner-thai-marriage-con/
There's a sucker born every minute. Personally I have no idea why any foreigner would ever send money overseas to a girl. Maybe someone can enlighten me why this is done.I think it mostly comes down to the old adage, "He who controls the purse strings makes the rules." The guy thinks being the source of her income will make his lady behave the way he wants. It can kind of work out that way when he is physically in the company of his girl. But it is foolish to think those controls reach across to the other side of Sukhumvit much less across an ocean or continent. However, there are a lot of fools out there.
I have no idea why any foreigner would ever send money overseas to a girl. Maybe someone can enlighten me why this is done.One example of why it happens is when a guy wants to marry the girl and bring her to live in his country. I know a guy who was sending an Indonesian girl he met on date in Asia $1000 usd a month for 2 years until she could get a visa to move to the USA. After meeting her online, he had flown to Jakarta to meet her and married her that week. It took 2 years from then for her to get a marriage visa. He bought her a car and helped her buy a house for her mother in the village for about 30,000 usd. I thought he was crazy, but she now lives with him in a small town in Louisiana, they have 2 kids together, and she is a smoking hotttie. She sold the car in Indonesia for almost the same as he originally paid for it and gave him the money, and he doesn't give her any money anymore. At least no more than he would with a girl he met in the USA. She has been with him in the USA for about 7 years now. It actually worked out pretty well for him, so I don't think it was a crazy move anymore. There is zero chance he could have gotten a girl that hot where he was living in the USA. The guy ain't Brad Pitt.
$30,000 may seem like a lot, but I spend that much on "entertainment" every year, so it's not really so bad.
I pretty much fell for a bar girl when I was in thailand. She went to phuket with me and stayed for about 2 months. Looking back I realize she was playing me. It didn't really bother me that she used to work in a bar. I used to pick up bar girls so same same really. She was fun to be with. She took car of me, like a wife. Then she went back home for a few weeks to her family, said her phone didn't get reception there and wouldn't answer my calls, only text. I was smart enough not to make any promises or give her lots of money. But I wasn't very smart. Live and learn.
https://www.pattayaone.news/another-foreigner-thai-marriage-con/
There's a sucker born every minute. Personally I have no idea why any foreigner would ever send money overseas to a girl. Maybe someone can enlighten me why this is done.
https://www.pattayaone.news/another-foreigner-thai-marriage-con/
There's a sucker born every minute. Personally I have no idea why any foreigner would ever send money overseas to a girl. Maybe someone can enlighten me why this is done.Don't even know why someone would even want to repeat with a girl. So many girls. You go to Thailand for all the girls but leave wanting to marry one.
What? The? Fack?
I pretty much fell for a bar girl when I was in thailand. She went to phuket with me and stayed for about 2 months. Looking back I realize she was playing me. It didn't really bother me that she used to work in a bar. I used to pick up bar girls so same same really. She was fun to be with. She took car of me, like a wife. Then she went back home for a few weeks to her family, said her phone didn't get reception there and wouldn't answer my calls, only text. I was smart enough not to make any promises or give her lots of money. But I wasn't very smart. Live and learn.You don't want to believe this story about phone reception entirely. She would clearly not be in a position to be talking to Farangs and causing bad gossip in the province and having family ask difficult questions. She is not wanting to openly be a hooker. This is the nice view assuming that she did not have a BF or husband. Many Thai girls maintain multiple BFs, secretly but not all. Just like we maintain multiple GFs sometimes.
Lets be clear. Most girls like this are with us for economic reasons. Accept that. You can only discount that if you are not supporting her for money in any way and she thinks you are pauper. A real relationship cannot really develop in 2 months. You don't really know each other. True love takes time. Quick love disappears just as quickly.
So yes easy to fall for the young pretty and hot Thai girls. However it is not "real". It is a temporary hired wife. Good to be realistic about it. The world is full of gold-digging women. They are all hookers, if they are with a man for economic reasons. E. g. Media Tycoon's Murdoch's young Asian wife. Maybe she loved him as well eventually, but not at the start. I respect hookers okay They all have to make money somehow. If they like sex, then why not make money that way? I have no problem with it.
https://www.pattayaone.news/another-foreigner-thai-marriage-con/
There's a sucker born every minute. Personally I have no idea why any foreigner would ever send money overseas to a girl. Maybe someone can enlighten me why this is done.Ha ha. You should know why they do it. Firstly they might believe that the girl really has the problem quoted. That would not be unusual. Next they feel sympathy for the girl, and may worry the girl will not want to ever meet again if the guy has a black heart, I. E. he has plenty of money but not will to help his favourite girl in the slightest. Better to help a girl you fuck than make donations to charity where the destination is unknown.
Some guys find themselves in a dilemma. Not sure if they should help some desperate girl or not. I. e. The generous side is fighting with the mean side. Sometimes they give in. Fuck it! The girl needs the operation, they have proof, and will cost $4000. Some guys will just decide they can afford it and do a good deed. Maybe the girl would die eventually if no operation. Not every case is a fucking sick buffalo, however a percentage of stories will be fake.
Does not matter who agrees with these points, or not, but they are clearly factors for guys that want to help. At one end of the spectrum you have the overly "generous" guys and at the other end you have the overly "mean" guys. Everyone else falls somewhere in between.
My brother owes me a lot of money. If I was overly mean, I never would have loaned it to him, however I do trust he will pay it back eventually. Money to Thai girls 99% of the time is a gift, not a loan. That has to be accepted. There is one honest Thai girl I know (an ex GF), where I could give money to her sister, and I know I will get the money returned, although an ex we are on good terms. This maybe a very rare case.
The worst dope, is the Farang sponsoring a girl every month, and not knowing that other similar guys are sponsoring the same girl, or that she is keeping a drug addicted pimp on the side, who will bash her if she does not supply the money.
Ha ha. You should know why they do it. Firstly they might believe that the girl really has the problem quoted. That would not be unusual. Next they feel sympathy for the girl, and may worry the girl will not want to ever meet again if the guy has a black heart, I. E. he has plenty of money but not will to help his favourite girl in the slightest. Better to help a girl you fuck than make donations to charity where the destination is unknown.
Some guys find themselves in a dilemma. Not sure if they should help some desperate girl or not. I. e. The generous side is fighting with the mean side. Sometimes they give in. Fuck it! The girl needs the operation, they have proof, and will cost $4000. Some guys will just decide they can afford it and do a good deed. Maybe the girl would die eventually if no operation. Not every case is a fucking sick buffalo, however a percentage of stories will be fake.
...I have transferred money to girls with whom I have already had great sex and fun that at the time did not cost me much at all. Let's call it Deferred Payment. LOL. I am aware at the time that this girl who practically refuses to accept money for her time currently will eventually ask for some help. And maybe that is why she refuses to take much money the first time around; because she isn't in such dire need for the money now, but knows she will some day and would rather wait for the right time of need to make a withdrawal. Like a savings account.
I just transferred 4,000 baht to a girl who I have seen dozens of times over the past couple of years. A dating site girl. Lives in Korat and whenever I have wanted to be with her for a couple of nights she gets on a bus and travels hours to Bangkok to stay with me. Then I put her on the nearest BTS station train and wave bye as she heads to Mo Chit station and takes the bus back to Korat.
Lovely girl inside and out. Great, total and complete True GFE bordering on True PSE every time we are together. Everything up to me anytime and all the time. Until this recent 4,000 baht transfer, I had never given her more than 2,000 baht for her travel, her time, her body, her company, anything. 1,500 baht more often. And that is for at least two nights sleepover and all the sexual attention I can take. So this time she Lines me about needing money for her daughter's tuition or something and how her regular job paycheck won't be coming in time to cover it. But she insisted that she will pay it back as soon as her paycheck comes in. Whatever. I barely read the message. I just asked how much she needed. She said 2,000 baht at first. Then on the day at the school, said she was short another 2,000 baht. I transferred it without hesitation.
Now, I also realize that it is entirely possible this was "Goodbye Money On The Way Out" she thought she might as well get out of me on the assumption we won't be getting together much in the future and might as well cash in on the savings account while she can. And I understand that, too. I had been agreeing to have her come stay with me less and less over the past few months. So maybe she thought it was over soon anyway. That has happened with me before as well. Again, I am ok with paying up later rather than sooner if the circumstances fit.
I have transferred money to girls with whom I have already had great sex and fun that at the time did not cost me much at all. Let's call it Deferred Payment. LOL. I think there is a huge difference between the guys that live in country, see the girl all the time, can check if the story is remotely plausible and hand over a couple of dollars vs the guys that live on the other side of the world, have met the girl once, if that, are falling for blatantly BS stories and hand over thousands (of DOLLARS) !!
Sure your story may turn out to be money lost but as you say, you already have received your pound of flesh. The other guy is down serious coin with nothing to show for it.
Enjoy. G.
I think there is a huge difference between the guys that live in country, see the girl all the time, can check if the story is remotely plausible and hand over a couple of dollars vs the guys that live on the other side of the world, have met the girl once, if that, are falling for blatantly BS stories and hand over thousands (of DOLLARS) !!
Sure your story may turn out to be money lost but as you say, you already have received your pound of flesh. The other guy is down serious coin with nothing to show for it.
Enjoy. G.Exactly so. I agree.
Although, I have to say even as an expat who lives here I don't really need to hear what the reason or story is behind a girl needing a quick money transfer. I accept that they must always tell a story and explain the reasons for the sake of Face. But I virtually always assume it is BS and that the money I am transferring is a gift and not a loan, as has been said here already.
The only calculation in my mind is have I already over paid for this girl's time and attention or have I gotten a pretty good deal up to now. If it is the latter, I will make a reasonable transfer and solve her problem right now without giving it much thought. But as soon as the calculation begins to approach or, god forbid, surpass the former, I'm done.
I just transferred 4,000 baht to a girl who I have seen dozens of times over the past couple of years. A dating site girl. Lives in Korat and whenever I have wanted to be with her for a couple of nights she gets on a bus and travels hours to Bangkok to stay with me. Then I put her on the nearest BTS station train and wave bye as she heads to Mo Chit station and takes the bus back to Korat.
Lovely girl inside and out. Great, total and complete True GFE bordering on True PSE every time we are together. Everything up to me anytime and all the time. Until this recent 4,000 baht transfer, I had never given her more than 2,000 baht for her travel, her time, her body, her company, anything. 1,500 baht more often. And that is for at least two nights sleepover and all the sexual attention I can take. Got to love Thai debt.
This arrangement is perfect and is very common not just for Farangs living here, many Thai men also have this system in place. Before TF got stacked with LB's and P4 P providers I had a great deal of success with this routine. IE: meet online build a relationship and tell them upfront what I wanted and that I would pay the fare for them to come and meet with me. They would usually stay two nights and I would give them a sound hiding, take them to dinner, pay 2000 THB and then buy the return ticket home and see them again 5- 6 weeks later. I have only been duped once and lost 600 THB on a bus fare.
Some of these women had jobs in banks, supermarkets and I had a regular who was a Teacher. I let it lapse and did not build up enough contacts. At one stage I had three in rotation. I have recently tried this again and have had no luck. Just need more time to sift through the crap and to talk BS on line and to arrange suitable rendezvous as the village is no place for this type of activity. I really want to explore needy University students.
Banana Boi
05-11-19, 07:44
I know of a lady I'm guessing in her mid 40's. Would have been half decent looking in her early 20s. She's not a working girl and she is actually married to a Thai man. She has a Sponsor from UK or Aussie (I forget) who she has NEVER met but video chats with him several times a week. Supposedly this guy has been sending her north of 30 k baht monthly for the past 3 years. He always talked about coming to Thailand but never did. 3 years! I guess he's never heard of cam girls.
I think there is a huge difference between the guys that live in country, see the girl all the time, can check if the story is remotely plausible and hand over a couple of dollars vs the guys that live on the other side of the world, have met the girl once, if that, are falling for blatantly BS stories and hand over thousands (of DOLLARS) !!
I paid for a girl's dental bill once. It was around 2500 baht. She had to get a tooth extraction and replace the missing tooth. I went to the dentist with her. She offered me the extracted tooth as a souvenir!
Also gave a gogo girl some money once since she hadn't worked all month as she was with me most of the time. She asked for 1500 baht to help pay the balance of her rent that she was short. I handed her what was in my pocket, around 5000 baht. She looked confused, took out her 1500 baht, and handed the rest back to me.
I know of a lady I'm guessing in her mid 40's. Would have been half decent looking in her early 20s. She's not a working girl and she is actually married to a Thai man. She has a Sponsor from UK or Aussie (I forget) who she has NEVER met but video chats with him several times a week. Supposedly this guy has been sending her north of 30 k baht monthly for the past 3 years. He always talked about coming to Thailand but never did. 3 years! I guess he's never heard of cam girls.At least this guy was calling her and having some kind of communication with her.
In the story from Pattaya one the guy didn't even think about calling his "wife" for months, he would rather send her text messages. Who would do that? He don't even try to communicate with his wife and just complain about sending her money.
These Koreans have plenty of scam artists, one should take these stories with a grain of salt.
MongerForSex
05-11-19, 15:48
I would like to know if retirement is good in Thailand? Is it easy to get a visa? You must be over 50?
Banana Boi
05-11-19, 15:51
I would like to know if retirement is good in Thailand? Is it easy to get a visa? You must be over 50?Go to https://forum.thaivisa.com/ where all your answers plus many more will be there. Trust a poster named UbonJoe.
I know of a lady I'm guessing in her mid 40's. Would have been half decent looking in her early 20s. She's not a working girl and she is actually married to a Thai man. She has a Sponsor from UK or Aussie (I forget) who she has NEVER met but video chats with him several times a week. Supposedly this guy has been sending her north of 30 k baht monthly for the past 3 years. He always talked about coming to Thailand but never did. 3 years! I guess he's never heard of cam girls.
I paid for a girl's dental bill once. It was around 2500 baht. She had to get a tooth extraction and replace the missing tooth. I went to the dentist with her. She offered me the extracted tooth as a souvenir!
Also gave a gogo girl some money once since she hadn't worked all month as she was with me most of the time. She asked for 1500 baht to help pay the balance of her rent that she was short. I handed her what was in my pocket, around 5000 baht. She looked confused, took out her 1500 baht, and handed the rest back to me.Ha ha, so now you answer your own question. Its all a case of degree of reasonableness, is it a lot of money for the guy or a drop in the bucket. Can he afford it.
Like ET, one of my regulars, I help out a bit when she gets desperately short, could be rent or school fees etc. She provides sex, but is not paid per fuck. It is all a question of whether the amounts are low enough to be worthwhile for me, overall. It is a GFE experience and she is skilled (and is into fucking Farangs), so technically she would be my very best regular, slim and tall excellent English, but not really Asian spec. She quit her official BF recently who was rich but not making her happy. I have no wish to be the official BF and too old. Just have the odd meetings.
I think there is a huge difference between the guys that live in country, see the girl all the time, can check if the story is remotely plausible and hand over a couple of dollars vs the guys that live on the other side of the world, have met the girl once, if that, are falling for blatantly BS stories and hand over thousands (of DOLLARS) !!
Sure your story may turn out to be money lost but as you say, you already have received your pound of flesh. The other guy is down serious coin with nothing to show for it.
Enjoy. G.Not really. Wasted money is wasted money. That's as black and white as it gets.
Exactly so. I agree.
Although, I have to say even as an expat who lives here I don't really need to hear what the reason or story is behind a girl needing a quick money transfer. I accept that they must always tell a story and explain the reasons for the sake of Face. But I virtually always assume it is BS and that the money I am transferring is a gift and not a loan, as has been said here already.
The only calculation in my mind is have I already over paid for this girl's time and attention or have I gotten a pretty good deal up to now. If it is the latter, I will make a reasonable transfer and solve her problem right now without giving it much thought. But as soon as the calculation begins to approach or, god forbid, surpass the former, I'm done.Or you can just not send money and have it forever be a good deal unless you're just giving away charity to a problem that has underlying issues deeper than money which is money wasted either way.
At least this guy was calling her and having some kind of communication with her.
In the story from Pattaya one the guy didn't even think about calling his "wife" for months, he would rather send her text messages. Who would do that? He don't even try to communicate with his wife and just complain about sending her money.
These Koreans have plenty of scam artists, one should take these stories with a grain of salt.What did the Korean do? That was random.
I renewed my 1 year Non-Immigrant (Retirement) Visa today. This was my first time to renew it since some new rules took effect January 1, 2019. What usually took me 4-5 hours in the past took 9 hours this time. I arrived at the Chang Wattana, Bangkok, Immigration location at 9 AM, 30 minutes after they opened at 8:30 AM and did not walk out with my new visa stamp in my passport until about 6 PM. And even then I feel like the Immigration Officer and her 2-3 assistants were hustling it through in the last minutes just to get it done and close shop. Yeah, they will keep going until they've processed everyone, accepted or not. There were hundreds of people there at 9 AM. When I left about 6 PM, there were only 3-4 people still sitting with Immigration Officers in the cubicles.
I can't really say what the hold up was since I showed up with all the documents I'd seen online as necessary, all filled out with supporting financial documents included. One thing I always found to be true was as true this time; you will never know exactly what you need to show, which forms to be filled out and so on, until the Immigration Officer wielding the inked up stamp TELLS you what you need. Reading about it online on the various sites is helpful. But they won't tell you the full story. Be prepared to fill out 2-3 additional and unmentioned forms repeating what you'd already filled out before.
Of course, filling out that stuff, the new stuff, does not take very long. Waiting for your queue ticket number to be called is what takes long. I suppose next year I will be sure to show up about an hour before they open. I wanted to do that this time but had a girl stay over last night and, well, that screwed up my plan for an earlier exit from the apartment. But I'd shown up during the 12 Noon lunch break in the past and still got out before 4 PM. This time they seemed inordinately concerned about me putting in a 90 Day Report on where I lived (using a different form than I'd ever used before). I don't remember that being such a big deal in the past. My next 90 Day Report was not officially due until May 31 and I always do that with ease by mail. But the first Officer I finally saw in her cubicle about 1:30 PM today instructed me to go to get this and that photo copied downstairs and then go to Counter B to submit my 90 Day Report now.
Possible Helpful Tip: Sometime an hour or so before it looks like your first queue ticket will be called, go to the queue ticket desk again and ask for a queue ticket for Counter B. Get a jump on it even if you don't need to go through the 90 Day Report process on that day. If you don't need that queue ticket then you really lucked out, just throw it away. Or give it to someone who looks like they need it. Someone with kids in tow. But waiting for the Officers at Counter B to handle all the 90 Day Reporters took a whopping 3 1/2 hours! That was after waiting 4 hours to be told by the first Officer I spoke with to tell me I needed to go to Counter B for a 90 Day Report. And at that point, I still had my passport in my hand without a new visa stamp in it.
I was then supposed to go back to the original waiting area and wait for them to call my original queue ticket number. Yeah, that means they were WAY past my original number by then and it was entirely up to the good will and keen memory of the Immigration Officer who told me to go through the 90 Day Reporting processes to see me, remember I was the guy she sent over there half a day ago and, oh, ok she'll take me now just as soon as she gets through these next couple dozen applicants. You get the picture. Next year I will be sure to pick up a queue ticket for Counter B long before I am actually told I need one. And if I am not told to do it, I'll throw it away or hand it to some cute applicant who looks like she needs to get through that particular process faster than the next 3-4 hours.
Anyway, a few notes on the new rules:
I use the monthly streaming income method; showing a minimum of 65,000 baht per month, each and every month for the previous 12 months, going into my Thai bank account, and all from Foreign Transfers. I had a print out of all transactions for the past 12 months (cost 200 baht at Bangkok Bank). Each of the Foreign Transfer I highlighted and with a total amount of baht transferred for each month to make it easy for the Immigration Officers to see it at a glance. As it turned out, I missed that 65,000 baht minimum in Foreign Transfers one month in the past year. I had made a transfer on the 30th of the previous month, thinking it would land in my account on the 1st of the next month, but damned if it didn't land there on the 31st of the month. That meant I had a much larger Foreign Transfer in the previous month and came up short by, get this, 228 baht the next month! Yeah, I could only show 64,772 baht in Foreign Transfers for one of those 12 previous months. Well, either nobody noticed or they really didn't care about one month being off by so little. Everything was good.
I had also heard that rental income was not being accepted as a legitimate source of income. I can't really confirm or deny it based on my situation. But I will say that the supporting documents I showed was a small monthly pension (not enough to cover that 65,000 baht per month), my IRA savings account and some rental income reports. I gave all of it to the Immigration Officer and got my visa stamp. So I can't really say if they combined my typical IRA withdrawals and my pension to come up with what they needed to see or if they actually did include the rental income with my small pension to come up with it. Any combination of two of those sources would be plenty to show as an ongoing income stream greater than the minimum required. It was too complicated to ask and I was in no mood to conduct a survey. And it didn't really matter to me how they came up with it anyway. I have not started to collect my Social Security and that alone would be enough to cover the 65,000 baht per month income stream. But, until then, it looks like they were fine with combining my too small pension with one or both of the other sources of income (IRA and/or rental income) to approve me for the income requirement.
At one point before I was given back my passport with the new visa stamp in it, one of the Immigration Officers, a kind of cute little lady, handed me a blank sheet of paper and told me to draw a map of my apartment location. WTF? I'd never had to do that before. Never heard of it. Anybody else? Well, I just drew some lines and labeled them Sukhumvit Road, Asok, etc. And then a line for my soi and the approximate location of my apartment with an X. She was fine with that. Hey, whatever.
There was also a special meeting with me and one of the Immigration Officers involved in the newly highly important 90 Day Reporting process where I was told that, since my apartment manager failed to submit the information about my residence in his building in a timely manner after I'd moved in there about 5 years ago, either he or I needed to pay an 800 baht fine this very day. Of course, I paid that myself. Again, never heard of that one before. And then there was this; that same Immigration Officer told me when I leave Thailand for another country, say a 5 day holiday in the Philippines, I needed to RETURN to Immigration, in person, within 24 hours of re-entering Thailand to report that I have returned. Again, WTF? I'd never heard of that before either. Really? I swear I asked her for clarification on what I just thought I heard her say and, as god is my witness, she repeated it twice; I am supposed to come back to that Immigration location within 24 hours of returning to Thailand after a simple holiday in another country, get a queue ticket and wait for who the hell knows how long in order to report that I have returned! Of course, I looked incredulous. So then she said, well we can give you a grace period of 4-5 days to come in for that report.
Anybody else ever hear of this "new rule"?
Well, good luck with your retirement visa renewals, my fellow expats. I know only some country expats have to deal with these new rules. The USA is one of them.
MakeItOrBreak
05-13-19, 17:45
that same Immigration Officer told me when I leave Thailand for another country, say a 5 day holiday in the Philippines, I needed to RETURN to Immigration, in person, within 24 hours of re-entering Thailand to report that I have returned. Again, WTF? I'd never heard of that before either. Really? I swear I asked her for clarification on what I just thought I heard her say and, as god is my witness, she repeated it twice; I am supposed to come back to that Immigration location within 24 hours of returning to Thailand after a simple holiday in another country, get a queue ticket and wait for who the hell knows how long in order to report that I have returned! Of course, I looked incredulous. So then she said, well we can give you a grace period of 4-5 days to come in for that report.
Anybody else ever hear of this "new rule"?
Well, good luck with your retirement visa renewals, my fellow expats. I know only some country expats have to deal with these new rules. The USA is one of them.I am quite sure this is the TM30 she is referring to and that one is 24 hours from entering Thailand. "Every time you leave Thailand and return with a new (arrival and) departure card in your passport, you have to be reported again, because your departure card number has changed. ".
I never had a visa in Thailand but in Phuket they are very relaxed about this even when I extended my 30 day stamp. As a owner myself I am not sure behind the logic why I need to report myself. Being foreigner that is most likely the (mis) interpretation they done either way so best to follow suit.
I am quite sure this is the TM30 she is referring to and that one is 24 hours from entering Thailand. "Every time you leave Thailand and return with a new (arrival and) departure card in your passport, you have to be reported again, because your departure card number has changed. ".
I never had a visa in Thailand but in Phuket they are very relaxed about this even when I extended my 30 day stamp. As a owner myself I am not sure behind the logic why I need to report myself. Being foreigner that is most likely the (mis) interpretation they done either way so best to follow suit.You're right, the TM30 is the one. As a tenant, why do I have to report it? I thought that is why my apartment owner/manager asked me to tell him when I return from out of country; so he can make a copy of my Arrival Card and report it.
I suppose if my apartment owner/manager fails to do what he is supposed to do, I am on the hook for it the next time I renew my annual visa, including the fine. But, crap, returning to Immigration the day after coming back from a vacation out of Thailand is damned onerous. She didn't say there was a "by mail" option for me. And I asked. She said I had to come in to the Immigration building and do it in person.
I never go to Chaeng Wattana on a Monday or Friday (nor public holiday naturally), as these days abut a day off and can increase the numbers of people there. Tuesday is a better choice as example if not next to a day off.
The following suggest reporting can be done by Registered Mail:
https://www.thaiembassy.com/thailand/90-day-reporting-immigration.php
Chaeng Wattana should be last choice maybe.
I never go to Chaeng Wattana on a Monday or Friday (nor public holiday naturally), as these days abut a day off and can increase the numbers of people there. Tuesday is a better choice as example if not next to a day off.
The following suggest reporting can be done by Registered Mail:
https://www.thaiembassy.com/thailand/90-day-reporting-immigration.php
Chaeng Wattana should be last choice maybe.This time it was getting a bit close to the day my previous visa would expire and I didn't want to skip a day after getting all my documentation together just in case I was missing something and had to return another day.
Yes, I have been doing the 90 Day Report by mail ever since I moved here several years ago. Even during the political protests when they closed down the main Immigration Office at Chaeng Wattana and opened some satellite offices. Some guys were saying we had to submit the report in person at those satellite offices since the main one was closed. But I didn't have a problem at all doing it by mail during those times. I was fully prepared to do it by mail this time and it wasn't due for another 3 weeks. That is why it was so annoying that they wanted me to spend 4 more hours waiting just to do something it takes me 20 minutes to do by mail including the walk to my nearest Post Office. But I understand that when you renew your retirement visa the 90 day cycle starts anew.
I see someone else is griping about the new required TM30 form on last Sunday's Stickman Weekly site. I suspect that is something they will allow to be done by mail someday soon. I mean, they're asking for the place to be packed with more people, delaying everyone else, standing in line and getting a gueue ticket just to report that they returned from a pleasant vacation yesterday. LOL. Ridiculous.
BTW, if expats think we are the ones suffering from the new rules, the Thai people working in that Immigration Office have never looked so frazzled and exhausted from all the extra and unnecessary work, hustling as fast as they can from 8:30 am until whenever they finish the last one after dark. There will be a breaking point where it will just make everyone happier if they move most of these procedures to the Internet.
I see someone else is griping about the new required TM30 form on last Sunday's Stickman Weekly site. I suspect that is something they will allow to be done by mail someday soon. I mean, they're asking for the place to be packed with more people, delaying everyone else, standing in line and getting a gueue ticket just to report that they returned from a pleasant vacation yesterday. LOL. Ridiculous.
I did the 30 day extension recently. Actual delay to get it from taking a queue number was just 45 minutes. I got there about 11 am on a Tuesday (a few days before the deadline and still got 30 days extra). Far more time was taken waiting for a taxi on leaving and getting back to Sukhumvit. So in total one wastes a lot of time. Think arriving very early is not beneficial I have heard of very long queues.
There was a period of official holidays coming up so did not want to get too close to that, so did it before May Day. Actually was 30 Apr so 1 day before May day. Did not even know at the time if 1 may as a holiday or not. I am told it maybe possible to do regionally far quicker than in Bangkok.
They basically just want their 1900 Baht, so I think they could make it easier and have some alternate locations, as they do make good money from it, or allow a mail service, however perhaps they want to interview and ask questions sometimes. Many fail to fill in the forms correctly. Perhaps by website would be possible, and if any questions needed to be resolved then ask the person to go to the office.
Usually they don't ask me any questions.
All these bureaucrats need something to do.
Here is a map showing supposedly where all the Immigration Offices are.
Next time I might try a provincial one, but will ring them to check 30 day extension is possible. Someone told me it should be faster than in Bangkok.
https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?mid=1r81uyBYdMeM7A7W_-5L1pFWfsFQ&ie=UTF8&t=h&oe=UTF8&msa=0&ll=15.319727756539919%2C105.36472559928711&z=5
Last December, I went to the Thai consulate in my US city and requested a 60 day visa, which was immediately provided. In and out in 30 minutes. I think it was $40 so cheaper than getting a 30 day extension in Thailand. Of course, you can only get a 60 day visa in the US and live close enough to a consulate or embassy to make it worthwhile. For a period of time over the last few years, there was a requirement that 60 day visa had to be applied for in LA or DC and you had to mail your passport along with the application but for whatever reason this requirement was changed and they now allow consulates to provide the 60 day visa.
I have done the drill in Bangkok and it's a PIA. For one thing, it's tough to find a taxi that will take you out there. However, GRAB might be the way to go. On both times, I ended up on a motorcycle taxi, which I absolutely hated. The drivers act like it's a suicide mission. Then you get dropped off at entrance to site and then you need to take another motorcycle ride to the building.
I did the 30 day extension recently. Actual delay to get it from taking a queue number was just 45 minutes. I got there about 11 am on a Tuesday (a few days before the deadline and still got 30 days extra). Far more time was taken waiting for a taxi on leaving and getting back to Sukhumvit. So in total one wastes a lot of time. Think arriving very early is not beneficial I have heard of very long queues.
There was a period of official holidays coming up so did not want to get too close to that, so did it before May Day. Actually was 30 Apr so 1 day before May day. Did not even know at the time if 1 may as a holiday or not. I am told it maybe possible to do regionally far quicker than in Bangkok.
They basically just want their 1900 Baht, so I think they could make it easier and have some alternate locations, as they do make good money from it, or allow a mail service, however perhaps they want to interview and ask questions sometimes. Many fail to fill in the forms correctly. Perhaps by website would be possible, and if any questions needed to be resolved then ask the person to go to the office.
Usually they don't ask me any questions.
All these bureaucrats need something to do.
Here is a map showing supposedly where all the Immigration Offices are.
Next time I might try a provincial one, but will ring them to check 30 day extension is possible. Someone told me it should be faster than in Bangkok.
https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?mid=1r81uyBYdMeM7A7W_-5L1pFWfsFQ&ie=UTF8&t=h&oe=UTF8&msa=0&ll=15.319727756539919%2C105.36472559928711&z=5
Last December, I went to the Thai consulate in my US city and requested a 60 day visa, which was immediately provided. In and out in 30 minutes. I think it was $40 so cheaper than getting a 30 day extension in Thailand. Of course, you can only get a 60 day visa in the US and live close enough to a consulate or embassy to make it worthwhile. For a period of time over the last few years, there was a requirement that 60 day visa had to be applied for in LA or DC and you had to mail your passport along with the application but for whatever reason this requirement was changed and they now allow consulates to provide the 60 day visa.
I have done the drill in Bangkok and it's a PIA. For one thing, it's tough to find a taxi that will take you out there. However, GRAB might be the way to go. On both times, I ended up on a motorcycle taxi, which I absolutely hated. The drivers act like it's a suicide mission. Then you get dropped off at entrance to site and then you need to take another motorcycle ride to the building.What consulate? Atlanta is the same as DC, 15 days. LA is the only consulate that gives same day.
For newbies: don't fear the trip to Chang Wattana. BTS or mrt to mo chit / chatuchak, walk 50 meters up the road and flag a cab. 100 baht.
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I have done the drill in Bangkok and it's a PIA. For one thing, it's tough to find a taxi that will take you out there. However, GRAB might be the way to go. On both times, I ended up on a motorcycle taxi, which I absolutely hated. The drivers act like it's a suicide mission. Then you get dropped off at entrance to site and then you need to take another motorcycle ride to the building.To get to the Chaeng Wattana Immigration Building from the lower Sukhumvit area, I ride the BTS train to the Mo Chit station, walk down the steps on the Chatuchak Park side and take a motorcycle taxi at the posted rate of 200 baht right to the front door of the correct building and nearest to the office I need right inside that front door. I don't haggle or negotiate that posted price. It is a once a year trip (prior to this new TM30 report form nonsense, that is) and maybe that is why I have always been taken directly to the right spot.
From BTS Nana to my ultimate destination takes about 45 minutes going that way, for about 250 baht. Same on the return.
But I don't mind riding motorcycle taxis and, as we weave in, out and around the 2-3 dead stopped auto traffic jams between BTS Mo Chit and the Immigration Building, I know I would be a lot less comfortable sitting in a car or bus for an additional 30 minutes or whatever, fretting over how many dozen more people are lining up at the door or getting queue tickets ahead of me during the delay. LOL.
Crazy4Thai
05-15-19, 16:03
Last year I was in Hua Hin and it was time to extend by 30 days rather than leave. For example, a 60 day tourist visa will actually get you 90 days if you go to the trouble to extend it. In Hua Hin I was amazed at the process. They have an assistant, like a student, who does some pre-screening and gets some details from you. Specifically your address in Thailand. After a few minutes of wait, seeing the IO is almost exactly like when you first stamp into the country. They take your photo, the form has been filled out on their pc with your details and printed for you to sign. Pay your 1900 baht and get that extension. Done, 10 minutes at most including the wait time. This is supposed to become the standard throughout the country. That would be great but I have never, not ever, in my 14 years here seen any 2 immigration offices have a truly standard procedure.
Banana Boi
05-15-19, 20:10
HEALTH insurance has been made mandatory for foreigners aged 50 years and above seeking long-term stay in Thailand.
The insurance policy must offer up to Bt40,000 coverage for outpatient treatment and up to Bt400,000 for inpatient treatment.
This is one of the measures the government has introduced to ease the financial burden placed on state hospitals by foreigners, many of whom have not paid for treatment.
The Cabinet has already approved the new rule, Health Service Support Department director-general Nattawuth Prasert-siripong revealed yesterday.
According to Nattawuth, the new rule applies to both new applicants for the non-immigrant visa (O-A), which offers a stay of up to one year, and those wishing to renew their visa. Each renewal is valid for one year.
Overseas policies okay too
Such health insurance is good for foreigners too, Nattawuth said.
Foreigners can buy valid health insurance from longstay.tgia.org or if they wish to use health insurance that they bought overseas, they must ensure that the coverage amount is no less than what is required by the rule. We are going to discuss with relevant authorities on to how to check the validity of health insurance bought from overseas, Nattawuth said.
Asked about foreigners who cannot buy health insurance because their health risks are considered too high, Nattawuth said relevant authorities might consider requiring them to have higher deposits in bank accounts so as to make sure that they have enough to live in Thailand.FYI for those over 50 who want to stay in Thailand on an O-A Retirement Visa. Likely a good thing to have for anyone over 50 anyways.
Banana Boi
05-15-19, 20:20
I guess I'm in the minority as someone who enjoys having to make a Visa run every 60 days. Breaks up the monotony and allows me to go to Jakarta, Japan, Korea, PP, Vietnam, Singapore, etc. Every 60 days. I enjoy my extra little side trips especially during months when Thailand heat is unbearable.
To get to the Chaeng Wattana Immigration Building from the lower Sukhumvit area, I ride the BTS train to the Mo Chit station, walk down the steps on the Chatuchak Park side and take a motorcycle taxi at the posted rate of 200 baht right to the front door of the correct building and nearest to the office I need right inside that front door. I don't haggle or negotiate that posted price. It is a once a year trip (prior to this new TM30 report form nonsense, that is) and maybe that is why I have always been taken directly to the right spot.
From BTS Nana to my ultimate destination takes about 45 minutes going that way, for about 250 baht. Same on the return.
But I don't mind riding motorcycle taxis and, as we weave in, out and around the 2-3 dead stopped auto traffic jams between BTS Mo Chit and the Immigration Building, I know I would be a lot less comfortable sitting in a car or bus for an additional 30 minutes or whatever, fretting over how many dozen more people are lining up at the door or getting queue tickets ahead of me during the delay. LOL.I took taxi straight onto freeway from Nana region of Sukhumvit, Vipavadee Rangsit (Don Meuang tollway), at about 9. 30 am or so, maybe 10 on a Tuesday. Freeway was okay Get off for Chaeng Wattana, it is usually heavy. Can turn off left into Soi 5 immediately after crossing the Khlong (canal) to stay out of traffic jam and go to government building the back way. It is far to hot to take motorcycle. Taxis will go no problem because they can easily get a customer leaving there to go somewhere else.
I got my queue ticket at about 11. I had to go downstairs to Photostat my documents first. Several photostat and passport photo places exist. Would be nice to get queue ticket first but they check your stuff is in order. My wait till got the 30 day extend was 45 minutes. Not bad by picking not so busy day and not too earlier when huge numbers are queued.
Then I had to wait in queue to get a taxi leaving. He took me to Phaholyotin MRT station, since traffic back to Sukhumvit was getting heavy. Had to turn left at Vipavadee Rangsit (the wrong direction) and then do a you turn back to head south.
The key to doing Chaeng Wattana is which day you go and what time of day to avoid traffic jams. There are far to many people waiting at opening time, so somewhat later is better.
Next time I will try one of the regional immigration offices instead. They are generally reported to be much faster.
Here is a Map of Immigration Offices:
https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?id=1r81uyBYdMeM7A7W_-5L1pFWfsFQ&ie=UTF8&t=h&oe=UTF8&msa=0&ll=15.319727756539919%2C105.36472559928711&z=5
I will probably ring them first to make sure they can do the 30 day extension but should be okay.
Nong. One of the owners of Snow White, Cupid and a few other PSE massage shops just opened a restaurant right next to Cupid massage near Thonglor BTS station between Sukhumvit 38 and 40.
There are a few ex SW and Cupid girls working there so there might be a good chance to get a different kind of dessert.
Robert Long
05-16-19, 23:11
I had never seen a report on this in the forum. Something to think about if you are the type that waits until the last day to renew or just doesn't care about Thai immigration rules.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KsP9GaCi26g
RL.
I had never seen a report on this in the forum. Something to think about if you are the type that waits until the last day to renew or just doesn't care about Thai immigration rules.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KsP9GaCi26g
RL.Pretty misleading video IMO.
At the start, the guy is pretty much saying you will be banned if you're a day over at the airport.
If you present yourself at Immigration you will only be blacklisted for 1 year if you have overstayed.
By 90 days or more. The periods then increase due to how long you have overstayed.
It then changes if you are arrested.
Then you can be banned from between 1 to 5 years for any overstay.
So for the person who messes up their dates and is a few days over, it's no big deal.
Having said that, it's obviously wise not to go into overstay.
Having said that, it's obviously wise not to go into overstay.The period of overstay matters a lot. I have been over my automatic 30 days in the past by just 1 to 3 days and paid the fine at the airport. No big deal.
The fine amount is not trivial, so is probably cheaper to extend your stay at Immigation, but wastes your time.
Those that develop a habit of overstay or overstay very long time are looking for trouble. A small number of days is a misdemeanor I guess.
Overstaying extensions may be considered worse than initial overstays.
I think an extension will not be granted if have already reached overstay. Could happen if some guy goes to Immigration only to find they are closed for a public holiday or two. Probably happens a lot. I believe it is a good idea to go for the extension several days before your stay expires, to have a safety margin if something goes wrong. I went a week before last time.
MongerForSex
05-17-19, 12:48
Pretty misleading video IMO.
At the start, the guy is pretty much saying you will be banned if you're a day over at the airport.
If you present yourself at Immigration you will only be blacklisted for 1 year if you have overstayed.
By 90 days or more. The periods then increase due to how long you have overstayed.
It then changes if you are arrested.
Then you can be banned from between 1 to 5 years for any overstay.
So for the person who messes up their dates and is a few days over, it's no big deal.
Having said that, it's obviously wise not to go into overstay.As a Brazilian, I can stay 6 months a year in Thailand, maximum 3 months for every trip. It's better for me to use my Brazilian passport than my American passport. I only use my American passport when I go to the USA and Canada, I used my Brazilian passport when I travelled to Mongolia, China, North Korea. As an American citizen, I can't travel to North Korea, I travelled to North Korea with a Brazilian passport this year. Trump won't know it.
As a Brazilian, I can stay 6 months a year in Thailand, maximum 3 months for every trip. It's better for me to use my Brazilian passport than my American passport. I only use my American passport when I go to the USA and Canada, I used my Brazilian passport when I travelled to Mongolia, China, North Korea. As an American citizen, I can't travel to North Korea, I travelled to North Korea with a Brazilian passport this year. Trump won't know it.Be interested to know about the opportunities for mongering in and Korea.
I travelled to North Korea with a Brazilian passport this year. Trump won't know it.I'm sure Trump personally wouldn't give a shit. How was the North Korean pussy?
Robert Long
05-17-19, 20:03
A very good explanation on the TM-30.
https://www.thethailandlife.com/tm30-guide?omhide=true&utm_source=TheThailandLife&utm_campaign=a8302b8e4e-THAI_BITES_24_14_05_2019&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_83cf51b727-a8302b8e4e-1204666177
RL.
Robert Long
05-17-19, 20:13
Pretty misleading video IMO.
At the start, the guy is pretty much saying you will be banned if you're a day over at the airport.
If you present yourself at Immigration you will only be blacklisted for 1 year if you have overstayed.
By 90 days or more. The periods then increase due to how long you have overstayed.
It then changes if you are arrested.
Then you can be banned from between 1 to 5 years for any overstay.
So for the person who messes up their dates and is a few days over, it's no big deal.
Having said that, it's obviously wise not to go into overstay.You contradict yourself. You say misleading but then you admit that you can be Blacklisted if you overstay.
The laws of Thailand are there for them to enforce and create an income source. If you overstay an immigration officer can do whatever they want to you for breaking the law. Fine you and Blacklist you. Don't let them get the satisfaction of taking your money and marking your passport with a negative flag. Extend or go home.
RL.
You contradict yourself. You say misleading but then you admit that you can be Blacklisted if you overstay.
The laws of Thailand are there for them to enforce and create an income source. If you overstay an immigration officer can do whatever they want to you for breaking the law. Fine you and Blacklist you. Don't let them get the satisfaction of taking your money and marking your passport with a negative flag. Extend or go home.
RL.Come off it buddy.
It's a fear mongering video.
If you're a few days over when leaving, you pay the 500 Baht a day fine and that's it.
Period of overstay Banned from re-entering.
More than 90 days 1 year.
More than 1 year 3 years.
More than 3 years 5 years.
More than 5 years 10 years.
That's assuming you don't get arrested, then all bets are off.
Be interested to know about the opportunities for mongering in and Korea.Mongering in Korea is expensive, not very accessible to foreigners, and is now about the same as it would be in the US.
A very good explanation on the TM-30.
https://www.thethailandlife.com/tm30-guide?omhide=true&utm_source=TheThailandLife&utm_campaign=a8302b8e4e-THAI_BITES_24_14_05_2019&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_83cf51b727-a8302b8e4e-1204666177
RL.Thanks for the link. It is a very good explanation of what a hassle it is for expats living in Thailand. I read in the link that the TM30 form is not only required within 24 hours after returning to your Thai apartment or condo from a trip outside of Thailand but also required when you return from a trip INSIDE Thailand. The reqirement is triggered when the hotel in, say Pattaya or Hua Hin, files their required report when you check in. So within 24 hours of returning to your apartment in Bangkok (or vice versa) you need to tell your landlord he needs to file a new TM30 form for you within the next 24 hours or be fined up to 1,600 baht. Or you can file it on his behalf within 24 hours.
The gap here is there is apparently no mechanism to provide a receipt or proof from your landlord that he did indeed file it and on time. So you will never know if he did until the next time you arrive at Immigration to renew your visa. And you will have nothing to show Immigration even if he did it on time and Immigration "lost" the record of it.
I suppose the upside is it can be done online. However, it remains to be seen IF the online method works. I have yet to make the online method for the 90 Day Report work.
Thanks for the link. It is a very good explanation of what a hassle it is for expats living in Thailand. I read in the link that the TM30 form is not only required within 24 hours after returning to your Thai apartment or condo from a trip outside of Thailand but also required when you return from a trip INSIDE Thailand. The reqirement is triggered when the hotel in, say Pattaya or Hua Hin, files their required report when you check in. So within 24 hours of returning to your apartment in Bangkok (or vice versa) you need to tell your landlord he needs to file a new TM30 form for you within the next 24 hours or be fined up to 1,600 baht. Or you can file it on his behalf within 24 hours.
All sounds ridiculous and amusing. I used to rent a room in Bangkok all year round. I would come and go over seas. I am guessing the manager did not report every time I came and left to the authorities (I could be wrong). Now I might not know where I will be first night or two, and my rural address is a bit long and complex and won't be there immediately.
I expect to go for a yearly VISA with reporting some time soon. I wonder if I can get away with just reporting my one rural address.
Banana Boi
05-18-19, 08:11
Be interested to know about the opportunities for mongering in and Korea.
Suicide mission to hobby in North Korea. Why not just go to Seoul or Busan, SK?
MongerForSex
05-18-19, 08:12
Be interested to know about the opportunities for mongering in and Korea.
I'm sure Trump personally wouldn't give a shit. How was the North Korean pussy?I did not fuck in North Korea but it's a good country to visit. People are very nice. Hotels are very good.
All sounds ridiculous and amusing. I used to rent a room in Bangkok all year round. I would come and go over seas. I am guessing the manager did not report every time I came and left to the authorities (I could be wrong). Now I might not know where I will be first night or two, and my rural address is a bit long and complex and won't be there immediately.
I expect to go for a yearly VISA with reporting some time soon. I wonder if I can get away with just reporting my one rural address.The article says the fine for not reporting is 1,600 baht for the landlord who is supposed to file it. I was fined 800 baht this time. Don't know why the difference. And it was the first I'd ever heard of the form or the requirement to file it. They gave me a receipt. I suppose I could show my landlord the receipt and ask for the money one way or another since he is the one liable for the fine.
But he is very conscientious about these things, has asked me to give him any new Arrival/Departure card I get along the way. So I am guessing he is aware if this requirement, did file the report and it would be his word against Thai Immigration, a conflict I am willing to just pay an additional 800-1.600 baht once a year to avoid, frankly.
I am getting a pretty good deal with this apartment, like the easy going nature of the landlord and am not inclined to fuck with all of that just to avoid paying a potentially once a year fine of 800-1,600 baht that he is supposed to pay instead of me. I will certainly tell him the next time I return to my apartment after spending so much as 1 night in a hotel anywhere in the world including two blocks down Sukhumvit Road in Bangkok and remind him he needs to report it within 24 hours or be fined 1,600 baht. LOL. Lovely.
But if I get hit with another 800-1,600 baht fine the very long day I go to Immigration to renew my retirement visa, I will again pay it and count it as an effective increase from the usual 1,900 baht charge to renew. Or I will accept it as a roughly 64-133 baht per month increase in my rent. Lolol.
LittleBigMan
05-18-19, 12:10
A very good explanation on the TM-30.
https://www.thethailandlife.com/tm30-guide?omhide=true&utm_source=TheThailandLife&utm_campaign=a8302b8e4e-THAI_BITES_24_14_05_2019&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_83cf51b727-a8302b8e4e-1204666177
RL.Thanks for providing the link to good information. I think the majority of the people living here know one immigration is different from the next! As noted this has been in effect since 2005 but it wasn't until the bombing in Bangkok that they started to get serious. You would think with the technology today video conference that the government can easily click and set up a conference to go over all the rules so it can be consistency. If you aren't sure it is best to go down and ask but don't open a can of worms?
It really is the sole responsibility of the owner to file these TM30's if they don't reason might they don't have a business license?
Here in Jomtien, on Visa forums, it is suggested if you haven't been asked to provide the TM-30 don't I've been doing extension for 12 plus years never been asked about it nor do I plan to bring it up. The fine is the same whether it is one time or ten. A close friend recently went down to extend his trip he likes to talk talk majority of the stuff isn't relevant he ended up in Jomtien paying 1600-1800 then he also had to pay for his Thai lady since he is staying at her place.
In a recent interview with the Jomtien immigration chief, he stated based on his interpretation an expat on a retirement extension only has to do a TM30 once. They can travel anywhere they want inside Thailand or out they only have to fill out a new TM-30 when they move to a new place which means if you are renting a place A and decide to change and go to be, you need to go down and fill out a new TM-30 otherwise you don't.
It was indicated the 90 day report is enough to keep track of you?
Banana Boi
05-18-19, 14:26
CAT is a government Telecom company. It is not well known but they have great Package where you can pay for 1 month or 6 months or a year in one go for a mobile phone SIM card "my" CAT "my 4G". CAT runs the towers so has best reception throughout Thailand.
Various speeds available including 4, 6 , and 8 Mbps.
My girlfriend's brother downloads several full movies a day to his phone. No drop in speed. Great for video watching, e. G. Football replays, etc. Porn no problem. I know he does a lot of that. LOL. Most well known companies detect big downloads and throttle you.
I will get my own CAT card, when this one runs out of the 6 months. I will probably do the great deal to pay once per year. I m using phone hotspot to give Internet to my laptop and doing my work. It is performing better than the home fixed line in remote Thailand.
Many calls per month included I think. More than I could ever use. Mostly we are using Line, Whatsapp etc. , few traditional calls.
Unfortunately web site English is not that extensive, but enquire at CAT office, Mon-Fri 8. 30 to 4 PM. I have no business connection. 2nd floor Times Square
http://www.mybycat.com/en/PrePay.php?package=90_%E0%B9%81%E0%B8%9E%E0%B9%87%E0%B8%81%E0%B9%80%E0%B8%81%E0%B8%88%E0%B9%80%E0%B8%AA%E0%B8%A3%E0%B8%B4%E0%B8%A1-my-%E0%B9%80%E0%B8%99%E0%B9%87%E0%B8%95%E0%B9%80%E0%B8%9E%E0%B8%A5%E0%B8%B4%E0%B8%99-1,-4,-6-Mbps
I used to get sick of bad internet through AIS, BB, True, etc, whether in hotels, Apartments, in Bangkok, or in the Country.
So far my borrowed CAT SIM is qiving me much better than what I used to. No speed drops!
6 months at 6Mbps no speed reductions is 1800 Baht. 4Mbps is cheaper. Pay for the year and more discount.I've been on My by Cat for about a week now. I assume it works better in Bangkok which I will find out when I go to Bangkok in a couple of days. Visited the Pattaya office located on South Pattaya Road just east of Third Road, near Tukcom. You can't miss it. The value is great. 6 Mbps for 3 months for 1000 baht plus 70 baht for the new SIM card. Is it faster and more reliable than DTAC and AIS? Way better than DTAC which has been crap all year and marginally better than AIS, but way cheaper for sure and no worries at all about data usage since it is unlimited.
Thanks Syzy for the tip. I am happy with the switch and will get the 6 month 1800 baht plan next time. I now have cash for an extra lady drink or two each month!
Thanks Syzy for the tip. I am happy with the switch and will get the 6 month 1800 baht plan next time. I now have cash for an extra lady drink or two each month!I got the tip from a ladyboy who is a close relative of my Mrs. "She" does large amounts of downloading with torrents. Have been using a CAT landline for some time. However that is unreliable not due to CAT's fault, but in rural Thailand trees are not trimmed to keep them away from power lines and phone lines, internet lines as well. So any storm comes, trees are likely to fall on power lines and internet lines can be taken out too. Cables in the roof had to shielded in plastic pipe to stop rats from chewing the cable. Thailand has a lot of vermin, where very cold countries probably have a lot less to deal with.
Here CAT phone 4 G signal is a little weak but still works that I can watch a movie. Never was possible on my AIS SIM before. I have to admit though I was too stingy to take the very top AIS plans with unlimited high speed, as more costly per month.
Now I have taken 6 months in one go with CAT for just under 2000 Baht, I don't even care if I am not in Thailand for some of those months. I could have taken monthly, but the set and forget convenience is appealing.
I used a CAT SIM at 4 Mbps in Bangkok a couple of weeks back, and was definitely better than I have got for similar money plans with AIS, and way better than the hotel internet supplied.
Have a generator in case of extended power outage now. One cannot tolerate multiple hours with power down in Thailand. Its too hot. Voltage surge protection and stabilization comes next and finally a UPS maybe, however perhaps very short power outages will not be a big burden. Power outages are frequent in Bangkok also (at least in areas where I had been living), so I guess throughout Thailand.
Well worth having dual SIM phones here in Thailand and overseas for me. One phone or SIM could be the "monger phone". My mongering winds down but still have too many female contacts / Giks.
Banana Boi
05-18-19, 17:16
Have a generator in case of extended power outage now. One cannot tolerate multiple hours with power down in Thailand. Its too hot. Voltage surge protection and stabilization comes next and finally a UPS maybe, however perhaps very short power outages will not be a big burden. Power outages are frequent in Bangkok also (at least in areas where I had been living), so I guess throughout Thailand.
Well worth having dual SIM phones here in Thailand and overseas for me. One phone or SIM could be the "monger phone". My mongering winds down but still have too many female contacts / Giks.Brilliant. Why didn't I think of buying a generator? We get power outages all the time and my place gets stinking hot pretty fast with no AC or fan. Where would I get one here? HomePro? Index? Big C?
Agree. Dual SIM phones are a must for all of us.
Brilliant. Why didn't I think of buying a generator? We get power outages all the time and my place gets stinking hot pretty fast with no AC or fan. Where would I get one here? HomePro? Index? Big C?
Agree. Dual SIM phones are a must for all of us.I got it from Global House (very large hardware store in the province), and runs on Benzene petrol (maybe you call that gas in the USA). Mid sized for home use. Home Pro should have them I guess. Big C not likely. I have not got an electrician to setup connection to main wiring. To start with we just have long plug in cables with power boards on the ends. So can plug in critical things like fans, lamps, Water pump, Refrigerator, etc. Maybe the aircon too if total power consumption does not exceed its capacity.
I think a generator is good for outages more than 10 minutes, of course you don't know how long it is going to be. I would also suggest lamps with rechargeable batteries over candles. Generators do make some noise, but not as bad as dogs barking, roosters crowing, ha ha.
If very annoyed by brief power outages, then UPS boxes with batteries maybe the way to go, however I have not gone that far yet.
I had an 8 hour power outage once through the stormy night. Don't have to do that again. Most recent one was only 30 minutes but still that is a little too long when very hot, and we need the water pump to operate to flush the toilet and take a shower.
Out in the country, sometimes they setup a big stage somewhere and do "Mor Ram" folk singing and dancing shows, a bit like a circus coming to town but no animals. Music is blasting, and they usually power those shows by generators, because may not have access to reliable local power.
LittleBigMan
05-19-19, 01:13
You can get at HomePro runs around 18,000 baht if you buying foreign brand like Honda and up depending on what you need power need do not use indoor need ventilation.
Banana Boi
05-19-19, 08:51
I would also suggest lamps with rechargeable batteries over candles. I highly recommend everyone to buy this rechargeable LED flashlight that is bright enough to light up an entire room. Just plug in to the wall to recharge. They have similar ones that run on batteries. 69 baht at Mr. DIY. One of the very few non necessity goods have purchased in Thailand.
You can get at HomePro runs around 18,000 baht if you buying foreign brand like Honda and up depending on what you need power need do not use indoor need ventilation.Mine is a bit cheaper for fairly lower total power requirements, not Honda brand. Hard to know if "Bison" name is reliable or not.
Yes definitely for outdoors, like would not use a petrol engine indoors for any other things.
I highly recommend everyone to buy this rechargeable LED flashlight that is bright enough to light up an entire room. Just plug in to the wall to recharge. They have similar ones that run on batteries. 69 baht at Mr. DIY. One of the very few non necessity goods have purchased in Thailand.Thanks, will get one or three.
We have headlamps (strap to one's head) for doing stuff outdoors at night, but these mentioned above will be better for more general lighting in power outage. Thais tend to use candles or even gas or kerosene lanterns.
Many years ago, probably in the 1990's, I went to Koh Chang which was undeveloped, and had no roads, only motor cycle tracks. Also no power supply except for generators maybe, so kerosene lanterns were commonly used. I took 3 girls with me (one was a Tom Boy type of friend of the others so had no interest to do her even she worked as a hooker, not really slim). I suppose no one had smart phones in those days, so girls smoked pot, rather than playing smart phone games all the time. Major past times were eating, smoking Ganja (from Cambodia), sleeping and sex. Not much else. They were too lazy to go on extended walk to the waterfall. These days, taking away 3 girls for a multi day holiday would cost you an arm and a leg. Back in those days very cheap, bungalow accommodation was cheap too, and even a big bag of Ganja from Cambodia was maybe 100 Baht, maybe a little more. There were no police on the Island at all.
Nother Monger
05-19-19, 09:57
Be interested to know about the opportunities for mongering in and Korea.If you're not Korean, the options are going to be limited. In terms of least to most expensive: either you go to one of the few remaining RLDs, a massage parlor, or go to a room salon / booking club (and spend lots of money. Think over $300 USD before any P4 P).
There might be some Officetels that will allow foreigners, but prices range from $150 USD - $1000 k USD for the VIP ones, and that doesn't include any price gouging they may try. In other words, Thailand is much, much cheaper.
Banana Boi
05-19-19, 12:27
If you're not Korean, the options are going to be limited. In terms of least to most expensive: either you go to one of the few remaining RLDs, a massage parlor, or go to a room salon / booking club (and spend lots of money. Think over $300 USD before any P4 P).
There might be some Officetels that will allow foreigners, but prices range from $150 USD - $1000 k USD for the VIP ones, and that doesn't include any price gouging they may try. In other words, Thailand is much, much cheaper.OP was asking about North Korea. Pretty sure there is no hobbying there for a Farang.
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I think a generator is good for outages more than 10 minutes, of course you don't know how long it is going to be. I would also suggest lamps with rechargeable batteries over candles. Generators do make some noise, but not as bad as dogs barking, roosters crowing, ha ha.
... On the subject of candles, those fake but quite realisitic looking battery operated candles you see for sale in shops and on some vendor tables around town (300-500 baht for medium size ones) are great for creating a romantic candlelight atmosphere in a room without the smell, melting wax and open flame heat generated by real candles. Two D Cell batteries seem to last longer than the several hours claimed on the product.
This is not exactly addressing the power blackout minus a generator issue since one of the last things you'd want to do during a power blackout in Thailand with no aircon and no functioning fan is create a romantic atmosphere. LOL.
But I keep a couple of them on hand to sometimes add to the atmosphere when all the electric appliances are functioning. And, in fact, they do come in handy to light up a bathroom in order to take a cool shower or tend to other things during power blackouts without draining your smartphone battery firing up a flashlight app for the purpose. Again, absent a generator.
Those fake candles are so damned realistic and so much less hassle than real candles I wonder why anyone but the truly poor buy real candles anymore. Other than birthday cake candles, that is.
Hey, you can create a candlelight ambience in your room without the aircon and fan blowing out a real flame because there is no real flame, only an amazing simulation of one. LOL.
Mine is a bit cheaper for fairly lower total power requirements, not Honda brand. Hard to know if "Bison" name is reliable or not.
Yes definitely for outdoors, like would not use a petrol engine indoors for any other things.Get a generator set up with an automatic change over switch and use a diesel generator.
http://www.generatorsolutions.org
Nother Monger
05-19-19, 22:00
OP was asking about North Korea. Pretty sure there is no hobbying there for a Farang.NORTH Korea? Ah, my mistake. I'm not sure why anyone would want to even try that there but to each their own.
LittleBigMan
05-20-19, 01:52
Mine is a bit cheaper for fairly lower total power requirements, not Honda brand. Hard to know if "Bison" name is reliable or not.
Yes definitely for outdoors, like would not use a petrol engine indoors for any other things.So right but you just don't know about people then it being Thailand better be sure if you have family members here! I got mines from an Auction house prior I had checked the cost of course if you buy name here the cost is going to be much harder. I don't know the Bison name but if it works go with it, not like one needs to use it daily. Had it for 5 years use it twice funny how things work as soon as you get one the power never goes out? Still does but not for long periods I spend more time keeping it tuned and from being rusted?
LittleBigMan
05-20-19, 01:55
NORTH Korea? Ah, my mistake. I'm not sure why anyone would want to even try that there but to each their own.It won't happen in my lifetime? But if it ever opens up NK, it will be the new frontier of mongering? I remember the 70's. Early 80's the South? Those were the days.
Robert Long
05-20-19, 03:24
So right but you just don't know about people then it being Thailand better be sure if you have family members here! I got mines from an Auction house prior I had checked the cost of course if you buy name here the cost is going to be much harder. I don't know the Bison name but if it works go with it, not like one needs to use it daily. Had it for 5 years use it twice funny how things work as soon as you get one the power never goes out? Still does but not for long periods I spend more time keeping it tuned and from being rusted?I had the Honda 2000 Inverter, very quiet. Cost me $845.00 in 2005, sold it when I sold my house for $850.00, in 2015. Brand names always hold their price. And yes I only used it 4 time in all those years. Smart to have one around, I was the only one with lights in my valley.
RL.
I had the Honda 2000 Inverter, very quiet. Cost me $845.00 in 2005, sold it when I sold my house for $850.00, in 2015. Brand names always hold their price. And yes I only used it 4 time in all those years. Smart to have one around, I was the only one with lights in my valley.
RL.
It won't happen in my lifetime? But if it ever opens up NK, it will be the new frontier of mongering? I remember the 70's. Early 80's the South? Those were the days.Where else can one find a discussion about sex tourism advice in North Korea and power generators!?
To be honest my post was just curiosity about the motives of the member visiting NK. I as much guessed it wasn't for hobbying, but one can't be sure. Everyone likes a challenge.
I'm flying Hanoi to Phuket via Bangkok DMK. I want to buy some champagne for Phuket stay.
I'd be interested to know availability and range of prices at DMK as I could wait to buy in Phuket if lower (any recs on places to purchase in Phuket welcome too).
Buying in Hanoi could be an option, if worth it, as I could buy duty free I imagine, heading to Thailand. (I have checked luggage).
Thanks.
I'm flying Hanoi to Phuket via Bangkok DMK. I want to buy some champagne for Phuket stay.
I'd be interested to know availability and range of prices at DMK as I could wait to buy in Phuket if lower (any recs on places to purchase in Phuket welcome too).
Buying in Hanoi could be an option, if worth it, as I could buy duty free I imagine, heading to Thailand. (I have checked luggage).
Thanks.I don't know specifically about champagne, however King Power Duty Free in Thailand is a big rip off place for many items, imported items and alcohol not particularly cheap, ladies creams and perfumes not that cheap either, imported chocolate prices terrible. Then again I can't say if Hanoi is any better. I bought Pink Moet in Germany rather than try to buy here. Other alcohol bought very cheaply in Italy.
Supermarkets here have very steep prices for imported goods of quality. There are agents that don't do anything making a fortune in the mark up of the prices.
Maybe someone else will know a lot more specifics about champagne here. You might be able to order delivery from somewhere with a much better deal.
MongerForSex
05-22-19, 06:30
Anyone is retired in Thailand? Life is good in Thailand? I would like to retire in Asia (Thailand maybe).
Robert Long
05-22-19, 07:21
I'm flying Hanoi to Phuket via Bangkok DMK. I want to buy some champagne for Phuket stay.
I'd be interested to know availability and range of prices at DMK as I could wait to buy in Phuket if lower (any recs on places to purchase in Phuket welcome too).
Buying in Hanoi could be an option, if worth it, as I could buy duty free I imagine, heading to Thailand. (I have checked luggage).
Thanks.Of course you know that you can't carry on liquid for more than one flight? You need to put into checked luggage. And there is a maximum amount that you can legally enter the country with in your position. I think it is 1 liter.
I always enter Thailand from Taiwan and I buy one liter of Martel Cordon Blu. The best Cognac on Earth. And BTW, Duty Free is far from Free. Most of the prices are normal retail prices in the USA or even higher.
I have never seen Thai Customs search anyone at any Thai airports, so having many bottles in your check in bags might get thru. But somewhere they might be scanning bags. If yours get flagged, you loose.
Good Luck.
RL.
Of course you know that you can't carry on liquid for more than one flight? You need to put into checked luggage. And there is a maximum amount that you can legally enter the country with in your position. I think it is 1 liter.
I always enter Thailand from Taiwan and I buy one liter of Martel Cordon Blu. The best Cognac on Earth. And BTW, Duty Free is far from Free. Most of the prices are normal retail prices in the USA or even higher.
I have never seen Thai Customs search anyone at any Thai airports, so having many bottles in your check in bags might get thru. But somewhere they might be scanning bags. If yours get flagged, you loose.
Good Luck.
RL.
I don't know specifically about champagne, however King Power Duty Free in Thailand is a big rip off place for many items, imported items and alcohol not particularly cheap, ladies creams and perfumes not that cheap either, imported chocolate prices terrible. Then again I can't say if Hanoi is any better. I bought Pink Moet in Germany rather than try to buy here. Other alcohol bought very cheaply in Italy.
Supermarkets here have very steep prices for imported goods of quality. There are agents that don't do anything making a fortune in the mark up of the prices.
Maybe someone else will know a lot more specifics about champagne here. You might be able to order delivery from somewhere with a much better deal.Thanks for input fellas.
As I live in Italy, purchasing here and taking a bottle could work. All my next trip legs have luggage check in option if needed so I could do that.
The reason for this question is that my booked hotel in Phuket doesn't sell booze in room service. Not really a big problem as I'm not a big drinker these days. I want a source for the Champagne for this occasion only. Maybe there are local shopping options in Phuket? I generally hate supermarkets so last visit to SEA gave me reason to avoid them completely as eating out is so reasonable. I'm guessing even if I found a local supermarket selling it, it still might not be as cheap as Italy.
<SNIP> And BTW, Duty Free is far from Free. Most of the prices are normal retail prices in the USA or even higher.
I have done a simple price comparison on several so-called duty-free items in HK, Incheon and Guam in trips over the past 3 months, and I can state with certainty that I can buy the same items in the SM liquor stores in Manila at the same or cheaper prices in Manila.
My reference points were Jim Beam, Jack Daniels, Glenfiddich and Tanqueray gin. Each were cheaper in Manila and I didn't need to carry them on the plane.
I have never seen Thai Customs search anyone at any Thai airports, so having many bottles in your check in bags might get thru. But somewhere they might be scanning bags. If yours get flagged, you loose.
Good Luck.
RL.I had more than one cheap bottle from Italy I believe, and got through no problem. I don't know what it is about me, but Thai customs are never interested in me or my bags. If you are Chinese though, that maybe very different. So I am sure racial discrimination / profiling is going on.
One is more likely to have bag searched in home country. Never been checked in Europe either.
A gas cigarette lighter was once taken out of my luggage from Germany though, so I guess they xray for specific things. I don't believe it had any gas in it, most likely. Memory fades.
A bottle of expensive hair growth lotion I had in my hand luggage was objected to on a transit to Samui in BKK. The bottle was nearly half empty but it was a 150 ml bottle and only bottles up to 100 ml were allowed in carry-on luggage, so they said. They let me go and buy a insect repellent 100 ml bottle from the pharmacy. I threw away the insect repellent into the washroom sink and replaced it with the hair growth lotion. I was then let through. A pointless procedure but at least they didn't confiscate the bottle outright.
I have never seen Thai Customs search anyone at any Thai airports, so having many bottles in your check in bags might get thru. But somewhere they might be scanning bags. If yours get flagged, you loose.
I've seen customs officers in BKK stopping people and searching / X-Raying their bags. Probably profiled or random stops more likely, usually younger passengers.
Never happened to me, but I have heard of cigarettes and booze being confiscated when more than the allowed amount was discovered. Fines for this also. TIT.
I always enter Thailand from Taiwan and I buy one liter of Martel Cordon Blu. The best Cognac on Earth.
RL.Yuck. That's what the boys from the hood drink.
Robert Long
05-22-19, 19:29
Yuck. That's what the boys from the hood drink.You got it. It is a Viet Nam error thing. A French contribution to their occupation in SEA. The best of the best, or as you put it, "the boys in the hood". You can pay big bucks for good cognac but the flavor of Cordon Blu is unmatched.
Watch, Apocalypse Now, a movie by Francis Ford Copula. He also has vineyards and award winning wines.
RL.
Franciscass
05-23-19, 10:47
Can somebody explain to me why a 20 year old cutie in any country would sleep with a sixty something year old if not for monetary reward. Posts about spending sex filled days with contacts from social media where money is never discussed baffle me.
I am not casting aspirations on the validity of the posters but what is it be about.
Amazing sex or curiosity about what's it like with an old guy?
Maybe she likes discussing western values, culture, art, literature. Perhaps it's been taken to good restaurants bars and clubs, trips abroad or to the beach but most posts don't mention this as part of the arrangement and often in fact boast about it costing them nothing.
I keep coming back to it being that the girls see something in it for them whether short term and immediate or more long term where money is not discussed in the early stages. Here they roll the dice, hope for the best and take their chances it will work out eventually.
What am I missing?
Can somebody explain to me why a 20 year old cutie in any country would sleep with a sixty something year old if not for monetary reward. Posts about spending sex filled days with contacts from social media where money is never discussed baffle me.
I am not casting aspirations on the validity of the posters but what is it be about.
Amazing sex or curiosity about what's it like with an old guy?
Maybe she likes discussing western values, culture, art, literature. Perhaps it's been taken to good restaurants bars and clubs, trips abroad or to the beach but most posts don't mention this as part of the arrangement and often in fact boast about it costing them nothing.
I keep coming back to it being that the girls see something in it for them whether short term and immediate or more long term where money is not discussed in the early stages. Here they roll the dice, hope for the best and take their chances it will work out eventually.
What am I missing?If it's for a single night, no one will know exactly except for the 2 involved.
If it's for a week long trip to a nice place where the expenses, meals and gifts are paid for, that is believable and does happen.
Can somebody explain to me why a 20 year old cutie in any country would sleep with a sixty something year old if not for monetary reward. Posts about spending sex filled days with contacts from social media where money is never discussed baffle me.
I am not casting aspirations on the validity of the posters but what is it be about.
Amazing sex or curiosity about what's it like with an old guy?
Maybe she likes discussing western values, culture, art, literature. Perhaps it's been taken to good restaurants bars and clubs, trips abroad or to the beach but most posts don't mention this as part of the arrangement and often in fact boast about it costing them nothing.
I keep coming back to it being that the girls see something in it for them whether short term and immediate or more long term where money is not discussed in the early stages. Here they roll the dice, hope for the best and take their chances it will work out eventually.
What am I missing?Why do they sleep with you?
In 3 trips to Thailand I have only scored one "free" girl. The free meaning no money exchanged for sex but I did buy her lunch, dinner, a cup of coffee and I volunteered to buy her a scarf that she was going to pay for anyhow.
What she got out of it? To stay in a 3 star hotel, her first white cock and the potential of snagging a long time boyfriend.
I have been to Bali more frequently and I have only paid once. Again of course there is food and drinks involved but no money for sex. I don't ask what their motives are but again it would range from experimenting to the prospect of a better future.
It does happen but in an environment like Thailand I think select and pay is far easier.
Rob.
Can somebody explain to me why a 20 year old cutie in any country would sleep with a sixty something year old if not for monetary reward. Posts about spending sex filled days with contacts from social media where money is never discussed baffle me.
Females do not appear to be as hung up on the age of the partner, as many males are. We will never understand them.
Definitely they are far more economically motivated than us, and also want reliable guys. There is the thing about trying Farangs.
Some girls do say they would rather have good sex with an older guy, over bad sex with a young selfish guy, however I think they would take the young hot guy in preference if he performs as good, and can appear experienced. I definitely notice a big decline in the way young Thai girls respond to me, compared to over 25 years ago, yet my skills are better now.
Girls can get it off, and can close their eyes if necessary and pretend its a young Brad Pitt, I guess.
In general, older guys are never seen as undesirable as older girls, if they are in reasonable condition. Some girls claim to like fat older guys. One very slim Long Gun special dancer girl of the past, would knock me back, and say she much preferred older cuddly Teddy Bear (fatter) type guys, and only went with guys occasionally (possible had a BF). Perhaps she was scared the sex workout would be too arduous. Maybe was just bullshit. I will never know. She was always happy to sit with me and get drunk. Just no sex available.
Anyway, like you, I don't always understand really.
My Mrs wants me a hell of a lot (20+ years older than her) when she is on "premium herb", but when she runs out of that, she gets lazy and not very horny. Us guys, we are just horny all the time, almost. No assist needed and always ready for it. Well actually no. The Mrs is hot, but if an old ugly girl wants to fuck me, I would not be that interested and dick might not rise to the occasion. We just have been getting girls too good (for looks) for too long.
Unlike others, a very plain looking pornstar is not my objective.
I highly recommend everyone to buy this rechargeable LED flashlight that is bright enough to light up an entire room. Just plug in to the wall to recharge. They have similar ones that run on batteries. 69 baht at Mr. DIY. One of the very few non necessity goods have purchased in Thailand.Yes I got some. Unfortunately were slightly more expensive at Tesco Lotus. Limited options nearby, but maybe looked in the wrong place.
Perhaps mine are slightly different (but not much). However important to have some instant lighting when electricity goes down, till plug in the cords to the generator.
Already used the generator once now, but fortunately the outage was only 20 to 30 minutes. Was so hot, I certainly wanted the backup power fairly quickly to get the fans and refrigerator going. If overload it or some other problem the cut out switch can be tripped, but then just flick the switch back on a again. I am far out in country and its a bad area for outages. Virtually any high power wind in a storm will bring down branches onto power lines out on the main road. Council maintenance is poor to non existent.
Hello, its raining now at last, although wind is not high yet. We might be in for an outage soon. Ha ha.
Mr Enternational
05-24-19, 13:49
A bottle of expensive hair growth lotion I had in my hand luggage was objected to on a transit to Samui in BKK. The bottle was nearly half empty but it was a 150 ml bottle and only bottles up to 100 ml were allowed in carry-on luggage, so they said. They let me go and buy a insect repellent 100 ml bottle from the pharmacy. I threw away the insect repellent into the washroom sink and replaced it with the hair growth lotion. I was then let through. A pointless procedure but at least they didn't confiscate the bottle outright.Same as the US. Ridiculous as shit. When I first moved to Pattaya I brought some enzyme deodorizer. Since the bottle was too big I bought smaller bottles to put it in. I still brought the original bottle empty. What fucking sense does that make?
Mr Enternational
05-24-19, 13:54
I have done a simple price comparison on several so-called duty-free items in HK, Incheon and Guam in trips over the past 3 months, and I can state with certainty that I can buy the same items in the SM liquor stores in Manila at the same or cheaper prices in Manila.Brother that is anywhere. I don't know why people are still falling for the duty free rip off. In the Dominican Republic I took my coworker to the grocery store to buy some liquor. When we left and were going through duty free at the airport I pointed out to her that the price was double what we paid at the grocery store.
Can somebody explain to me why a 20 year old cutie in any country would sleep with a sixty something year old if not for monetary reward. Posts about spending sex filled days with contacts from social media where money is never discussed baffle me.
I am not casting aspirations on the validity of the posters but what is it be about.
Amazing sex or curiosity about what's it like with an old guy?
Maybe she likes discussing western values, culture, art, literature. Perhaps it's been taken to good restaurants bars and clubs, trips abroad or to the beach but most posts don't mention this as part of the arrangement and often in fact boast about it costing them nothing.
I keep coming back to it being that the girls see something in it for them whether short term and immediate or more long term where money is not discussed in the early stages. Here they roll the dice, hope for the best and take their chances it will work out eventually.
What am I missing?In my case, the times where a 20 year old cutie met me under totally non P4P circumstances and had sex with me without any discussion or (apparently) expectation of money have been rare. Three times in the past few years while I was in my 60's for sure. Maybe another 1-2 times that I've forgotten due to sheer numbers of other girls I've been with both directly P4P and not. The times when the cutie has been in her late 20's or early 30's has been much more often. I'd say a dozen times or more at least.
With the 20 year olds (let's say 18 to 23 years old), I can only say we met either on a dating site or with her working in a restaurant or mall, a sort of friendship was struck, we had a date and by the end of that first or second date max we were naked in my bed and having sex. I cannot say what their "real" motive was other than what they said about it; that they liked/loved me and wanted to have sex with me. In no case have I taken a girl to expensive restaurants except perhaps once out of curiosity to check it out (mine, not there's). There were no luxury hotels, no whirlwind trips domestically or abroad, no shopping sprees or anything like that. Of course, as it is with virtually ALL women, I am sure they were/are looking for "something in it for them" other than profit-free rolls in the sack.
With the late 20's and early 30's girls it is easy to assume they are looking to play the long game with ongoing security being the goal, just like women everywhere. They have seen their value to local Thai men plummet due to their advanced age (LOL), due to their having a baby or both. And that is what I do assume.
But there is another group of young cute girls I sometimes meet on the dating sites who are delving in what I would call "P4P Curious" behavior. They are toying with the idea of making much easier, faster and bigger money than their education and business networking or connections levels could ever produce by earning money for having sex with relative strangers. They meet me, feel safe or relaxed with me, like me enough to give it away for free once or twice, come to believe the part of P4P life where they have sex with men who they would not ordinarily choose for a romp just for the pleasure of it is ok with them after all and then they hit me up for money to pay for it one way or another later. Maybe they don't want to admit openly or to themselves that they are in fact hooking.
For the most part, that last category of girls saw it as P4P all along (and so did I really) but were willing to get the Pay a few days After in order to give that arrangement a test drive with someone they felt ok about being with. And, let's face it, they were testing it with a man for whom they assumed they would not "fall in love" in the way they might with a much younger, more age-appropriate man. I am sure it was like, "Hey, this guy seems like a good test subject. Let's see if I am ok with having sex with older men for money." And it goes like that once or twice until I get the Line message about the sick or dying grandma.
Blanquiceleste
05-25-19, 04:59
Can somebody explain to me why a 20 year old cutie in any country would sleep with a sixty something year old if not for monetary reward. Posts about spending sex filled days with contacts from social media where money is never discussed baffle me.
I am not casting aspirations on the validity of the posters but what is it be about.Perhaps you should. Remember what one poster said? If there are no pics, it just did not happen. LOL.
Perhaps you should. Remember what one poster said? If there are no pics, it just did not happen. LOL.In that case, there are only 2-3 posters here who have ever had sex with anyone. And that many isn't even a certainty. How often do we see pics in these threads of people engaging in actual sex acts? On the rare occasions we do, how do we know the guy in the pic is really the poster or that the girl is the one he is reporting on?
You're not counting Line screen shots or pics of girls sitting next to a guy, smiling at the camera as proof that actual sex occurred at any time between them are you?
It's possible to have a permanent visa if I buy a property in Thailand? Do I own 100% of property land? I hesitate buying a property between Brazil and Thailand. I know if I buy in Brazil, I own 100% of property land I buy. Can I stay 3 months in Thailand if I get a Brazilian permanent visa?
Franciscass
05-25-19, 09:11
But there is another group of young cute girls I sometimes meet on the dating sites who are delving in what I would call "P4P Curious" behavior. They are toying with the idea of making much easier, faster and bigger money than their education and business networking or connections levels could ever produce by earning money for having sex with relative strangers. They meet me, feel safe or relaxed with me, like me enough to give it away for free once or twice, come to believe the part of P4P life where they have sex with men who they would not ordinarily choose for a romp just for the pleasure of it is ok with them after all and then they hit me up for money to pay for it one way or another later. Maybe they don't want to admit openly or to themselves that they are in fact hooking.Actually ET whether she is 20 or 28 doesn't make a lot of difference in my failing to understand why they sleep with a sixty year old unless it is for the money.
I sometimes with nothing better to do peruse genuine international dating sites and I have rarely if ever seen a girl in her twenties or indeed thirties indicate she is happy meeting up with men 30 to 40 years older than her.
I am also for the sake of the conversation talking about attractive girls who are not short of possibilities with guys closer to their own age. Those challenged by the figures of beauty may decide a shag with jolly old Jim is better than staying at home with her 6 inch dildo.
I totally get explanations summarized under playing the long game. "How long you stay " is a box checked early on by the girls.
As to curiosity about what's it like with an old geezer, possible I suppose but I imagine rare particularly with Thai girls.
I get it that some working prefer older guys, less wear and tear and possibly more satisfying but only if they are being paid.
Your explanation that it's possibly a novice intending on entering the P4P business deciding on checking it out first with an old guy of her choice before going all in I find a stretch.
To finish I find paying for it less complicated, more satisfying and I would feel more than guilty if there was even a hint that she was playing the long game and I had no intention of ever helping her with the vet bills for the sick buffalo.
Banana Boi
05-25-19, 11:03
I'm no where close to 60 and I feel self conscious with some of the younger looking girls. I don't care if a girl is 18,19, or 20. It's fine if they look it but a couple of the girls I really like are 19 and 20 now but definitely look like little kids to me still. One keeps asking me to go to Hollywood on her days off but I keep turning her down.
I'd like to bring up a point that most girls who say they are 18 or 19 are really older, They figure most Farang tourists have no clue on their age. Even I have been very wrong on age before, I guessed a girl to be 19 and she was 25, another I guessed 26 and she was 37. Asian girls can really fool you so next time you think you're with a young Asian girl she may mot be as young as you think.
I'd like to bring up a point that most girls who say they are 18 or 19 are really olderI think that's true in the USA, but it's definitely not true in Jakarta. If a girl in Jakarta tells you she is 18 or 19, she is likely 14 or 15. So it's best to check their ID first.
If a girl in Jakarta tells you she is 18 or 19, she is likely 14 or 15. So it's best to check their ID first.Same in PH. If she says she's 18, it normally means she's turning 18 this year or next.
Blanquiceleste
05-25-19, 16:01
Same in PH. If she says she's 18, it normally means she's turning 18 this year or next.Same story in Cambodia. On my recent trip last month I met a girl at a bar near the Pontoon area. In the bar she said 22. I barfined her and took her to my hotel. At the hotel reception the guy checked her ID and told me she is not even 17 yet. I gave her $10 and sent her on her way. This is why I prefer a hotel which enforces a strict ID check policy.
Blanquiceleste
05-25-19, 16:02
In that case, there are only 2-3 posters here who have ever had sex with anyone. And that many isn't even a certainty. How often do we see pics in these threads of people engaging in actual sex acts? On the rare occasions we do, how do we know the guy in the pic is really the poster or that the girl is the one he is reporting on?
You're not counting Line screen shots or pics of girls sitting next to a guy, smiling at the camera as proof that actual sex occurred at any time between them are you?Hey, I was not the guy who made that preposterous statement. 5555.
In that case, there are only 2-3 posters here who have ever had sex with anyone. And that many isn't even a certainty. How often do we see pics in these threads of people engaging in actual sex acts? On the rare occasions we do, how do we know the guy in the pic is really the poster or that the girl is the one he is reporting on?
You're not counting Line screen shots or pics of girls sitting next to a guy, smiling at the camera as proof that actual sex occurred at any time between them are you?Nobody said they didn't have sex with "anyone". They just likely had sex with a girl far less attractive than they claim. A photo tells the story. They don't have to post themselves having sex with the girl or even a photo of them with the girl, they can simply post a photo that is obviously not a glamour shot and we can take them for their word. At least it gives more perspective than a claim in text.
I've posted hundreds of pics on this forum over the years. It's not difficult. Some guys like some of the girls and others don't. But the photos speak volumes. Syzgies is still drooling over that one photo I posted of Ice from Crazy House a while ago. Had I not posted the photo, the post wouldn't even have gotten a notice.
Nobody said they didn't have sex with "anyone". They just likely had sex with a girl far less attractive than they claim. A photo tells the story. They don't have to post themselves having sex with the girl or even a photo of them with the girl, they can simply post a photo that is obviously not a glamour shot and we can take them for their word. At least it gives more perspective than a claim in text.
I've posted hundreds of pics on this forum over the years. It's not difficult. Some guys like some of the girls and others don't. But the photos speak volumes. Syzgies is still drooling over that one photo I posted of Ice from Crazy House a while ago. Had I not posted the photo, the post wouldn't even have gotten a notice.And what happens if a poster has sex with someone far less attractive than the reader imagined? Nothing, imo. I think you found that out with regard to Ice. For you and perhaps for 1,000 other guys, sitting in the presence of Ice turned you on in ways her photo could never in a million years convey, right?
By contrast, I might sit next to someone 2-3 posters here claim is their very high and never to accept a compromise standard/spec for 30 minutes with my hand on her bare thigh and not sprout so much as half a woody. Yet their photos might make them appear to be super hot. Photos often mean near to nothing when it comes to sex. So I don't see the point in providing that kind of perspective. Maybe as a way to identify someone in a bar search I suppose.
Imo, barring extremes of age, weight or physical deformity that take a girl off the list, photos have very little to do with telling the story when it comes to fuckable, doable or even damned sexy girls I and perhaps many, many others might be willing to pay money to be with when out mongering.
Mr Enternational
05-26-19, 04:36
Yet their photos might make them appear to be super hot. Photos often mean near to nothing when it comes to sex. So I don't see the point in providing that kind of perspective.I remember the sausages they push around on that cart look so good to me. Finally I could not resist and had to try one. I am sure you guys do not believe I ate the sausage because I am not posting a picture of it. But what I can tell you is that it tasted horrible. Not even sure it was sausage. Anyone have any idea what it really is?
Okay. I did decide to post the glamour shot of the sausage, but I promise you I did try one. Why would you have any doubt that I bought the sausage?
Franciscass
05-26-19, 06:50
The validity of posts on the forum has always existed. Personally I couldn't give a rat's ass whether somebody's post about an encounter is true or not especially if they are well written and entertaining as some of them are.
Why would I care whether it happened or not. If a member's posts are irritating simply use the ignore button and the problem goes away. Why continue reading and taking issue with the poster. I don't get it.
I do however take exception to shilling and misleading posts if they are intended to entice readers into visiting particular establishments or girls they are in some way associated with.
And what happens if a poster has sex with someone far less attractive than the reader imagined? Nothing, imo. I think you found that out with regard to Ice. For you and perhaps for 1,000 other guys, sitting in the presence of Ice turned you on in ways her photo could never in a million years convey, right? Not at all. I think that photo of Ice very well represented exactly what she looks like. She's not my type, but I had to do her since she was so unique looking. I think every guy who goes to that bar should give her a try simply because she's got such a unique look. I've never seen any other girl like that anywhere in the world. She's not beautiful, but I consider her sexy. That photo let everyone know exactly what I was talking about when referring to her. No text description can tell the story better than a photo.
Not even sure it was sausage. Anyone have any idea what it really is?Dicks with genital warts?
Dicks with genital warts?Bingo. They aren't selling those to make money, they just sell them for a laugh.
Syzgies is still drooling over that one photo I posted of Ice from Crazy House a while ago. Had I not posted the photo, the post wouldn't even have gotten a notice.Just in case others don't recognise your satire.
I can't recall the pic of Ice now. OF no interest at all. I know who she is. I call her Geronimo due to the level of war paint. I have never spoken to her at all or just declined if she approached. Face is too boy like for me and piercings were too much at one time. Not my taste at all even if is a raunchy girl. Prefer more delicate look. Sillies bore me too.
The last guy that posted pics of pretty girls consistently was Nocbj4 me. Since he went, the Photo gallery has been generally not worth opening.
I got to see pics from some Buddies who do not put them on the forum. So it did happen in case of Natty and some others. Yes there can be bullshit artists too. Allow for all possibilities. Some posters don't see the point to invent bullshit posts.
Not at all. I think that photo of Ice very well represented exactly what she looks like.
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She's not beautiful, but I consider her sexy.
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No text description can tell the story better than a photo.See, imo that first statement does not contradict my point. Even though "does not look like the photos" is one of the more often repeated refrains here, I conceded that one could use a photo in order to locate a particular girl in a bar. My point wasn't that a photo would not "look" at all like the girl. Just that it does not tell the story about whether the girl is fuckable or doable or not.
The second statement agreed with my point exactly.
Finally, your third text statement actually DID tell your story, your impression of her in the flesh, much better that her photo IMHO.
I remember the sausages they push around on that cart look so good to me. Finally I could not resist and had to try one. I am sure you guys do not believe I ate the sausage because I am not posting a picture of it. But what I can tell you is that it tasted horrible. Not even sure it was sausage. Anyone have any idea what it really is?
Okay. I did decide to post the glamour shot of the sausage, but I promise you I did try one. Why would you have any doubt that I bought the sausage?LOL. Sorry, Mr. E, I am inclined to cast aspersions on you and your credibility in this regard since a photo of just the sausages alone could have been posted by anybody, even some poor 65 year old Caucasian loser who is plagued by being roundly rejected by those horrible tasting sausages time after time.
Got any pics of you actually biting into one of those sausages? Unless we see that, there is no way to accept that it happened.
your impression of her in the flesh, much better that her photo IMHO.My impression of her in the flesh was exactly the same as in the photo. A unique and wild looking girl. One look at that photo and nobody will deny that.
I know who she is. I call her Geronimo due to the level of war paint. I have never spoken to her at all or just declined if she approached. You should try talking with her sometime even if you have no interest in taking her. She may be the most intelligent girl in the place and is very charming.
You should try talking with her sometime even if you have no interest in taking her. She may be the most intelligent girl in the place and is very charming.I never went into Crazy House looking for an intelligent conversation, her look is certainly unique and wild, but was not exactly making me horny (we all have different taste). I like a more delicate looking girl, maybe a little naughty raunchy. Ice was probably too muscular and strange jaw. I have taken very tats laden girls before, but piercings I prefer to be on the low side. Tongue piercings okay For me.
The music is too loud to have much decent conversation. I usually just joke around a bit.
I found Business student and Hotel trainee at Crazy Cats, Bobbie to be really charming to talk to, but does not fuck (I probably would do her if available). Some other girls slightly prettier, but not good conversationalists. Bobbie was a bit unique (despite the name, not a ladyboy, but could be a Tom for all I know). Crazy Cats does have one or two Ladyboys, in fact I am seeing ladyboys out front of quite a few bars now. They normally particularly focus on Asian customers.
Robert Long
05-27-19, 01:51
My impression of her in the flesh was exactly the same as in the photo. A unique and wild looking girl. One look at that photo and nobody will deny that.I have seen Ice and commented on her in a post. Can I request that you post the photo again, or refer the posting number. She is a unique looking lady. I also commented on Apple, the great dancer that paints her body. A great body but I saw her outside and tried to talk to her and she ignored me. Inside she was very friendly and wanted drinks. She has the Punk hair style. She is much older than most of the ladies in CH.
RL.
Mr Enternational
05-27-19, 05:26
Thanks for the tip gentlemen. I have my CAT internet up and running. I have T-mobile from the States, but it always runs slower here. So I usually use my AIS for primary mobile phone internet. I think I pay like 800 baht per month. Also in my building you can only connect 1 device at a time to the wifi using the code for my room. Chicks always come over wanting wifi but I have my computer or tablet hooked up to it.
When I went to the CAT office this morning and told the lady I was interested in the 6 month 1800 baht plan she acted like she didn't know what I was talking about. Then she told the lady next to her. She grabbed a sheet that was in the middle of a stack of papers with the plan on it. I asked her if there was a 1 year plan. She said 1 year would be the expensive regular price. The 3 month for 1000 baht and 6 month for 1800 baht are promotions.
She asked if I lived here in Thailand and I told her yes. She asked for my passport. I gave her my driver's license as well for the address on the back. She copied both documents and took my picture. The she told me to pick out the phone number I wanted.
The total was like 2019 baht. 69 baht for the SIM and the rest for the internet plan. She said I needed to add at least 10 baht credit every 90 days or it would deactivate. She asked if I had another phone number and told me not to open the SIM until she called me in 1 hour to tell me it was ready. If I had opened it and for some reason it could not be activated, then I would be shit out of luck for my 1900 baht.
I went home and she had called within 20 minutes when I left the store to say it was ready. I had bought a pocket wifi on Amazon before I left the States. I tried it out, but it would not connect to the internet. I had already read the reviews of people saying it was garbage, so I had already gone to my lady at Tukcom Friday to check out some others. There was an AIS model for 2500 but I got them down to 2000. Works perfectly! Thanks again guys.
Chicks always come over wanting wifi but I have my computer or tablet hooked up to it. You can try using your laptop as a hotspot.
I had bought a pocket wifi on Amazon before I left the States. I tried it out, but it would not connect to the internet. This is dependent on the band you are using. If it's GSM then it should work, CDMA won't work. When I buy phones in the US I always buy AT&T compatible phones as they work in Australia and Asia.
You can try using your laptop as a hotspot.Isn't this only possible when you are sharing mobile data rather than wifi? My phone cannot become a hot spot with inbound wifi turned on.
Cheers. G.
Thanks for the tip gentlemen. I have my CAT internet up and running. I have T-mobile from the States, but it always runs slower here. So I usually use my AIS for primary mobile phone internet. I think I pay like 800 baht per month. Also in my building you can only connect 1 device at a time to the wifi using the code for my room. Chicks always come over wanting wifi but I have my computer or tablet hooked up to it.
So CAT is costing me about only 400 Baht per month. I paid for full 6 months in advance with a bit extra to cover calls, at 0. 5 Baht per minute.
There will be no need for any further top up for 6 months.
As high speed 6 Mbps and unlimited, I can use my phone hotspot to run several wifi devices, other phones, laptops, etc. I have no need to use the crappy Hotel wifi or a crappy apartment wifi any more.
I used to use AIS which cost more for a slower connection. AIS can have good signal, but I think will always cost more.
My phone has two SIMs as well so I can hold OS SIM cards.
My CAT home internet out in the province was okay Except would go down in power outage (router no power), or when line damaged by falling branches or rats eating the cable. Ha ha. So Phone provided Internet is good, even when weak signal far from the tower.
Phone hotspot can be shared by wifi, Bluetooth or USB cable. It drains the phone battery quicker so plug phone into Mains power or power bank is good idea.
For other poster, some phones have facility to be a wifi bridge. I have not really used it though. If have a good wifi, might be worthwhile. Ha ha.
Banana Boi
05-27-19, 08:51
So CAT is costing me about only 400 Baht per month. I paid for full 6 months in advance with a bit extra to cover calls, at 0. 5 Baht per minute.
There will be no need for any further top up for 6 months.
As high speed 6 Mbps and unlimited, I can use my phone hotspot to run several wifi devices, other phones, laptops, etc. I have no need to use the crappy Hotel wifi or a crappy apartment wifi any more.
I used to use AIS which cost more for a slower connection. AIS can have good signal, but I think will always cost more.
My phone has two SIMs as well so I can hold OS SIM cards.
My CAT home internet out in the province was okay Except would go down in power outage (router no power), or when line damaged by falling branches or rats eating the cable. Ha ha. So Phone provided Internet is good, even when weak signal far from the tower.
Phone hotspot can be shared by wifi, Bluetooth or USB cable. It drains the phone battery quicker so plug phone into Mains power or power bank is good idea.
For other poster, some phones have facility to be a wifi bridge. I have not really used it though. If have a good wifi, might be worthwhile. Ha ha.Didn't you pretty much just say all of this a week or so ago? Why repeat yourself?
Couple of new points but just add those so we don't waste our time reading the same things over and over again.
Didn't you pretty much just say all of this a week or so ago? Why repeat yourself?
Couple of new points but just add those so we don't waste our time reading the same things over and over again.I added a few new points re sharing internet, and enphasized the cost advantage over AIS. Yes some info is repeated.
Actually ET whether she is 20 or 28 doesn't make a lot of difference in my failing to understand why they sleep with a sixty year old unless it is for the money.
I sometimes with nothing better to do peruse genuine international dating sites and I have rarely if ever seen a girl in her twenties or indeed thirties indicate she is happy meeting up with men 30 to 40 years older than her.
I am also for the sake of the conversation talking about attractive girls who are not short of possibilities with guys closer to their own age. Those challenged by the figures of beauty may decide a shag with jolly old Jim is better than staying at home with her 6 inch dildo.
I totally get explanations summarized under playing the long game. "How long you stay " is a box checked early on by the girls.
As to curiosity about what's it like with an old geezer, possible I suppose but I imagine rare particularly with Thai girls.
I get it that some working prefer older guys, less wear and tear and possibly more satisfying but only if they are being paid.
Your explanation that it's possibly a novice intending on entering the P4P business deciding on checking it out first with an old guy of her choice before going all in I find a stretch.
To finish I find paying for it less complicated, more satisfying and I would feel more than guilty if there was even a hint that she was playing the long game and I had no intention of ever helping her with the vet bills for the sick buffalo.Jolly old Jim. Here Where can I find those 20 years who would prefer a freebie shag with a sixty year old instead of staying home with their dildo. I am available Mondays and Wednesday's and every second weekend. Snacks and soft drinks provided.
Isn't this only possible when you are sharing mobile data rather than wifi? My phone cannot become a hot spot with inbound wifi turned on.
Cheers. G.If you have a Windows 10 laptop then it can act as a hotspot for up to 8 devices, even when incoming wifi is on. I don't know how this works but I've used it on my laptop before when travelling and my phone wouldn't connect to the wifi for some reason.
Normally at pedestrian crossings, I don't stand meekly waiting for all the cars to pass like all the others. So I thought I had better check the rules, after a fast moving car beeped me for being on the zebra crossing.
Supposedly the law book as studied for the driving exam states there is 500 Baht fine if a vehicle does not stop at a crossing marked for pedestrians. This seems to apply where cars do not have a green light, maybe no light at all, but could still be in trouble for hitting a pedestrian. However one must understand that most Thais will not know the official rules nor follow them. Many have purchased their license. Seems that Thai unwritten rule is that vehicles have priority over pedestrians.
Perhaps the car approached the crossing too fast and was scared to brake, fearing being rear ended, since vehicles do not maintain safe separation. I have to keep reminding step daughter to stay back from the rear of car in front. They don't teach that to Thais.
I guess I will continue to enter crossings at some risk, but keep an eye on the approaching cars at high speed.
So politeness of vehicles here depends completely on the driver. In Italy cars will stop for you if you cross at the crossing, however they do not stop if you don't start to cross. In Germany politeness is way lower. Cyclists on the road have yelled abuse at me for being on the crossing and not making a big effort to get out of their way. Cyclists on the footpath illegally, will ding ding you with the bell to get out of the way. People do not look where they are walking so cutting off the path of another, without a concern, and then stopping dead is normal.
There are other countries that are far more pilot and respectful of pedestrians.
So the way Zebra crossings work is clearly not at all universal. I had assumed full pedestrian right of way would be observed but not so here. Police may try to enforce it better in some locations but usually just fuck up traffic flow.
If you have a Windows 10 laptop then it can act as a hotspot for up to 8 devices, even when incoming wifi is on. I don't know how this works but I've used it on my laptop before when travelling and my phone wouldn't connect to the wifi for some reason.I have more trouble getting my windows 10 laptop to connect to the wifi than I ever do my phone.
I'm scared of getting ran over walking on sidewalks sometimes. The unwritten rule seems to me to be, if there is room for a motorbike there then put one there.
Normally at pedestrian crossings, I don't stand meekly waiting for all the cars to pass like all the others. So I thought I had better check the rules, after a fast moving car beeped me for being on the zebra crossing.
Supposedly the law book as studied for the driving exam states there is 500 Baht fine if a vehicle does not stop at a crossing marked for pedestrians. This seems to apply where cars do not have a green light, maybe no light at all, but could still be in trouble for hitting a pedestrian. However one must understand that most Thais will not know the official rules nor follow them. Many have purchased their license. Seems that Thai unwritten rule is that vehicles have priority over pedestrians.
Perhaps the car approached the crossing too fast and was scared to brake, fearing being rear ended, since vehicles do not maintain safe separation. I have to keep reminding step daughter to stay back from the rear of car in front. They don't teach that to Thais.
I guess I will continue to enter crossings at some risk, but keep an eye on the approaching cars at high speed.
So politeness of vehicles here depends completely on the driver. In Italy cars will stop for you if you cross at the crossing, however they do not stop if you don't start to cross. In Germany politeness is way lower. Cyclists on the road have yelled abuse at me for being on the crossing and not making a big effort to get out of their way. Cyclists on the footpath illegally, will ding ding you with the bell to get out of the way. People do not look where they are walking so cutting off the path of another, without a concern, and then stopping dead is normal.
There are other countries that are far more pilot and respectful of pedestrians.
So the way Zebra crossings work is clearly not at all universal. I had assumed full pedestrian right of way would be observed but not so here. Police may try to enforce it better in some locations but usually just fuck up traffic flow.
LittleBigMan
05-30-19, 02:29
The problem with driving rules here they can't be enforced because the system doesn't provide for it except their 1% which is at a roadblock thus the reason in 10 plus years here they have risen to number #1 or close to it year in year out because they have no idea what the rules are?
I'm not a world traveler but here in Thailand close to 15 years when I first got here I noticed the traffic lights and pedestrians and regardless of the rule of law it doesn't seem pedestrian have the right of way no matter where they might be standing? Vehicles in particular on pedestrian or smaller vehicles drivers seem to have learned to use them as a weapon to try to intimidate others. I experience it day in day out on my motorbike I can be traveling within the flow of traffic I look at my right view mirror constantly to see what is coming behind me and can determine who I should move or even stop to let go by. Regularly I see vehicles speed up just so they can tailgate me they seem to think bikes do have a right to be on the road or jokingly Thai small dick syndrome or something?
Each day I use Hwy 7, in Pattaya for a short stretch I could be traveling 80 Km / h within the flow look in the mirror and vehicles would come right behind me within a few feet? You figure it out pretty quickly and for pedestrian now inside Pattaya, being my age Asian to make it across the road I do it with a limp on my hip it works every time the cars come to a dead stop never bleeping their horns. I was just in Bangkok for the day Monday on Soi 22-24 intersection I look left right and do my hip hop across works but of course not recommended for everyone unless you have a death wish?
Sorry, I am just catching up with this one.
Actually ET whether she is 20 or 28 doesn't make a lot of difference in my failing to understand why they sleep with a sixty year old unless it is for the money.
I sometimes with nothing better to do peruse genuine international dating sites and I have rarely if ever seen a girl in her twenties or indeed thirties indicate she is happy meeting up with men 30 to 40 years older than her.As I said in my post, in my experience females are virtually always looking for "something in it for them". It usually comes down to something resembling money; security, support, a home, companionship that is very much about sex, companionship that is rarely about sex, whatever. My 22 year old current regular girlfriend first clicked Interested in me on ThaiCupid when she was still 19 even though the desired age range she cited on her profile was 20-35.
I am also for the sake of the conversation talking about attractive girls who are not short of possibilities with guys closer to their own age. Those challenged by the figures of beauty may decide a shag with jolly old Jim is better than staying at home with her 6 inch dildo.Why must those be the only two options available to attractive young girls? I have no doubt the 2-3 rare girls I mentioned encountering could easily get farang men closer to their own age to date and fuck them. Some people like to experiment with everything within reason. Just as I know a very good looking 27 year old man who lives half the year in Thailand who is always on the look out to shag an older lady, even in her 50's if she has kept herself in good shape and has enough charm about her.
However, as I also mentioned in my original post, it would not be nearly so easy for them to date THAI men closer to their own age (or any age for that matter) for the reasons I cited. So that reality does move 60 year old farangs a bit higher on the available options ladder.
Your explanation that it's possibly a novice intending on entering the P4P business deciding on checking it out first with an old guy of her choice before going all in I find a stretch.
To finish I find paying for it less complicated, more satisfying and I would feel more than guilty if there was even a hint that she was playing the long game and I had no intention of ever helping her with the vet bills for the sick buffalo.But I also added that the girls who did Line me a day or two later about their sick grandma and hospitalized buffalo knew in their heart and mind it was P4P all along and so did I. Not much of a stretch there, imo.
Some girls are too shy to outright state they are freelancers/hookers (or trying to be) or admit it to themselves and stick out their hand for the money on the way in or out of a date and shag. In some ways, being much older than such a shy or reticent girl works in my favor. She might naturally assume a much older man would volunteer to give her money for her time and body without her asking or do so after she asks (the sick grandma) without a fuss or confrontation. By contrast, a man closer to their own age might take great offense at being asked for money afterwards if he more naturally assumed he really was on a strictly non P4P date and fuck. To the girl, I am simply a safer bet to understand and agree to give her money for that date and fuck.
I agree with your last statement. And I would volunteer to give money without being asked to every lady I meet who does not mention money upfront if it weren't for the fact that there have been several cases where the girl got very upset and stormed out, never to date or fuck me again, because I "think all Thai ladies are the same! I am not lady bar!" LOL. Yes, that has even happened with young cute girls I have met outside the direct P4P scene here.
Mr Enternational
05-30-19, 08:11
And I would volunteer to give money without being asked to every lady I meet who does not mention money upfront if it weren't for the fact that there have been several cases where the girl got very upset and stormed out, never to date or fuck me again, because I "think all Thai ladies are the same! I am not lady bar!" LOL. Yes, that has even happened with young cute girls I have met outside the direct P4P scene here.Why is it that some guys believe every woman in particular countires are on the take? Or is it that they believe since they can not get a woman to sleep with them that does not want money then it means no man can get a woman to sleep with them that does not want money? Since I got here last Friday I have fucked 3 paid women and 5 non-paid women. One of the unpaid women is new to me and works at Central Festival and stayed over 2 different night. Another unpaid woman I have been fucking over 2 years and she always sees me with other women on my bike. Spent the night at her place last night and she cooked for me.
As I said in my post, in my experience females are virtually always looking for "something in it for them". It usually comes down to something resembling money; security, support, a home, companionship that is very much about sex, companionship that is rarely about sex, whatever. Most of my girls of more than 20 years age gap, must have been for economic reasons at least initially. It can change. Could be an exception. Some girls really prefer older guys. Maybe they think we will be less selfish and try harder to look after them like a princess. They may value our extra experience. My low 30's girl today got 3 pops so my age is not exactly worrying her, as long as I can manage a long session (even if I needed a booster) and give good DATY. I was going to write something else detailed but thought best to omit it as would make me too identifiable, should she be reading the forum. Postponed.
Why is it that some guys believe every woman in particular countires are on the take? Or is it that they believe since they can not get a woman to sleep with them that does not want money then it means no man can get a woman to sleep with them that does not want money? Since I got here last Friday I have fucked 3 paid women and 5 non-paid women. One of the unpaid women is new to me and works at Central Festival and stayed over 2 different night. Another unpaid woman I have been fucking over 2 years and she always sees me with other women on my bike. Spent the night at her place last night and she cooked for me.I don't assume regular girls I meet are on the take. But it does come up a lot. Eventually. They would say they are not on the take but just came up short on rent or phone bill this week. LOL. I go along with it until the Value For Money begins to tilt away from the Value part. Still less costly than a LT with a go-go dancer. Except for the free LT CzarNicholas reported getting from a Butterflies go-go dancer a few days ago, that is. But they have happened on occasion, too.
Pattaya is a pretty small and easily navigable town vs Bangkok. I would say the cost of living is lower for most Thais vs Bangkok, too. Do you ever offer to pay your "free" ladies the cost of their transportation to and from your apartment or to help pay some of their rent when they come up short? In Bangkok, taxi (after BTS/MRT close or if there is no practical BTS/MRT option and a bus would take forever) could easily get close to 400-500 baht for the round trip from where some of these girls live.
And, BTW, are you saying the Central Festival lady and the others qualify as the cute/attractive young girls Franciscass and I were referencing? Could be an Apples and Oranges comparison here.
Even in Bangkok I believe it would be very easy for me (and most other dudes) to fill my weeks with ladies coming over to stay overnight or two or three for free if I invited mostly mid-late 30s or older ones who really have very little options other than me or the toy.
Franciscass
05-30-19, 09:35
Sorry, I am just catching up with this one.
As I said in my post, in my experience females are virtually always looking for "something in it for them". It usually comes down to something resembling money; security, support, a home, companionship that is very much about sex, companionship that is rarely about sex, whatever. My 22 year old current regular girlfriend first clicked Interested in me on ThaiCupid when she was still 19 even though the desired age range she cited on her profile was 20-35.
Why must those be the only two options available to attractive young girls? I have no doubt the 2-3 rare girls I mentioned encountering could easily get farang men closer to their own age to date and fuck them. Some people like to experiment with everything within reason. Just as I know a very good looking 27 year old man who lives half the year in Thailand who is always on the look out to shag an older lady, even in her 50's if she has kept herself in good shape and has enough charm about her.
However, as I also mentioned in my original post, it would not be nearly so easy for them to date THAI men closer to their own age (or any age for that matter) for the reasons I cited. So that reality does move 60 year old farangs a bit higher on the available options ladder..E. T,
You sure appear to have whatever it takes using social media to get these dates. You have genuinely awakened my envy and more to the point my curiosity so all I need now is a pic that shows me looking my best and a profile so attractive it will be like moths to the flame. Got to go and download the app.
Mr Enternational
05-30-19, 11:47
Do you ever offer to pay your "free" ladies the cost of their transportation to and from your apartment or to help pay some of their rent when they come up short?I never run into those kind of problems with free chicks. So when I say free I mean free. I don't mean buying them gifts or non of that shit. Maybe we will get something to eat together or go see a movie together and I will pay. But no money or gifts are coming from me and going to them.
The last couple of days I have been seeing a massage chick. Things are really slow for them so she will leave work and come to my place for a couple of hours. She pays a motorbike to bring her here. The first day I took her back. Yesterday when I was about to take her back she said no because she was going to Jomtien for something. She did not ask money for transportation there.
And, BTW, are you saying the Central Festival lady and the others qualify as the cute/attractive young girls Franciscass and I were referencing?Well she is 26 with no kids and cute enough for me! The only thing ahe wanted from me was to take her to dinner in Jomtien because sbe had never been there. So I took her to that seafood place right before the end. The bill was 1200 baht. 800 baht for me and 400 baht for her. She has her own motorbike so she comes and goes on that.
Other free chick is from Bangkok. I met her in March when they had that beach soccer championship here in Pattaya. She was a translator for the officials. She came to stay with me everyday when she finished work. This time when I arrived she was already in town for some other translator gig and was staying at the Avina (old Marriott). She came to get some dick while her boss was in a meeting. She went back in less than an hour. Now she said they are in Sattahip.
One of the new free chicks was not my type so I will not be seeing her again.
So when I say free I mean free. When I say paid, I mean no more than 1200 baht LT.
I never run into those kind of problems with free chicks. So when I say free I mean free. I don't mean buying them gifts or non of that shit. Maybe we will get something to eat together or go see a movie together and I will pay. But no money or gifts are coming from me and going to them.
The last couple of days I have been seeing a massage chick. Things are really slow for them so she will leave work and come to my place for a couple of hours. She pays a motorbike to bring her here. The first day I took her back. Yesterday when I was about to take her back she said no because she was going to Jomtien for something. She did not ask money for transportation there.
Well she is 26 with no kids and cute enough for me! The only thing ahe wanted from me was to take her to dinner in Jomtien because sbe had never been there. So I took her to that seafood place right before the end. The bill was 1200 baht. 800 baht for me and 400 baht for her. She has her own motorbike so she comes and goes on that.
Other free chick is from Bangkok. I met her in March when they had that beach soccer championship here in Pattaya. She was a translator for the officials. She came to stay with me everyday when she finished work. This time when I arrived she was already in town for some other translator gig and was staying at the Avina (old Marriott). She came to get some dick while her boss was in a meeting. She went back in less than an hour. Now she said they are in Sattahip.
One of the new free chicks was not my type so I will not be seeing her again.
So when I say free I mean free. When I say paid, I mean no more than 1200 baht LT.I don't find any of those scenarios hard to believe. I have experienced much the same in Bangkok except for the massage shop girl part. And that is only because I have such an aversion to the massage shop scene I don't meet many massage shop girls unless one clicks on my dating site profile. And in Bangkok I will volunteer to pick up the tab for transportation, 200-300 baht, when it comes to the "free" stuff. If I am seeing them long enough I would buy a gift for a supposed birthday or whatever special event.
Maybe I see that as the "60+ year old farang who only accepts BBFS+CIP or BBBJ+CIM" surcharge. LOL.
Mr Enternational
05-30-19, 13:37
I don't find any of those scenarios hard to believe. I have experienced much the same in Bangkok except for the massage shop girl part. And that is only because I have such an aversion to the massage shop scene I don't meet many massage shop girls unless one clicks on my dating site profile. Well I met her on Tagged. I am only 47 no, so when I am 60+ it may be a totally different ballgame.
And that is only because I have such an aversion to the massage shop scene I don't meet many massage shop girls unless one clicks on my dating site profile. I don't see why one has to build strong aversions unless it to ladyboys or gay men. I am prepared to use an MP because I need a fuck to be all done and dusted in 90 minutes, no time wastage, or if in even more hurry would consider a BJ shop.
The girl still has to be a sexy pretty girl of a good standard. Maybe you aversion relates to getting BBFS, but I don't see that as a huge problem. Skinny and cute will do me. My last two regulars are 45 Kg at 165 cm and 48 Kg at 168 cm so that shows I really like slim.
I may have contempt for MP management sometimes, but I don't let that bother me too much. I can dislike a shop but still like a girl there. One of my skinny regulars is an ex MP girl (used to be in Orient). Don't see any reason to cut that source off even if is not my usual, and even I am not after pure filth or anal, etc.
CzarNicholas
05-30-19, 14:18
I don't see why one has to build strong aversions unless it to ladyboys or gay men. I am prepared to use an MP because I need a fuck to be all done and dusted in 90 minutes, no time wastage, or if in even more hurry would consider a BJ shop.
The girl still has to be a sexy pretty girl of a good standard. Maybe you aversion relates to getting BBFS, but I don't see that as a huge problem. Skinny and cute will do me. My last two regulars are 45 Kg at 165 cm and 48 Kg at 168 cm so that shows I really like slim.
I may have contempt for MP management sometimes, but I don't let that bother me too much. I can dislike a shop but still like a girl there. One of my skinny regulars is an ex MP girl (used to be in Orient). Don't see any reason to cut that source off even if is not my usual, and even I am not after pure filth or anal, etc.Go to AC LOL.
You can find 30 kg LOL.
Seriously, 18-19 yo 30 kg 4 feet tall, its crazy.
My theory is, severe pre-natal malnourished.
I did about 50 of them in my visit.
It was interesting (true spinners), but got boring after awhile.
... Maybe you aversion relates to getting BBFS, but I don't see that as a huge problem. That is only partially it. But that part of it is bad enough. My approach is to get an upfront agreement from the girl to provide BBFS+CIP or BBBJ+CIM. Getting a massage shop girl to agree upfront to BBFS+CIP is essentially impossible when the girls are clustered in a group, standing in a line up or anywhere near another human being other than me and her. So that leaves BBBJ+CIM, something easier to get an upfront agreement for since it is sometimes on the menu, with the possibility of evolving it into BBFS+CIP while "going with the flow to see what happens in the room". That will be fine the 20% of the time the girl might agree to BBFS+CIP in the room. But it is a huge buzz kill the 80% of the time she will not. Btw, I am being very generous with that 20% success rate with me and massage shop girls (in the shop). My experience has been they are on Auto Pilot not only in the way they have sex but their replies to any and all such requests. And the Auto Pilot response to me much, much more often than not is No.
So, let's say I do get an upfront agreement for a BBBJ+CIM, she is in the 80% no go for BBFS+CIP group, but a BBBJ+CIM is going to be fine with me anyway, right? Probably not. If I walk in the room or I check out the room ahead of time and there is only a bed and a floor or, worse, a table and a floor, I'm out. I need a much more comfortable arrangement than that for a pleasurable blowjob. The kind of simple set up I have in my apartment and one I have not seen in any massage shop anywhere in Thailand.
And even when I have reluctantly gone along with a blowjob in a massage shop, I have never had one with an iota of eroticism or sexiness applied to it. Without exception they have been mechanical and too fast, too robotic and the girl is utterly incapable of following simple instructions (thanks to Auto Pilot) that most girls NOT working in a massage shop seem to have no problem following.
Even when I get a click of Interest from massage shop girls on the dating sites, freelancing on the side or whatever, I can bet big money it will either be NO to both of my requirements or some of the worst, mechanical, robotic, unerotic sex I have ever had.
Franciscass
05-30-19, 15:15
Well I met her on Tagged. I am only 47 no, so when I am 60+ it may be a totally different ballgame.My forties were a different trip. Wasn't living here then but I never paid for pussy wherever I laid my hat and I had all I could handle and with cuties. Enjoy it while you can MR. E. It will begin to cost more as you hit the fifties even more still when you hit the sixties and well if you survive as I'm expecting to I imagine the seventies will be a seriously out of pocket experience not to mention an out of body experience.
Rohanpi1980
05-30-19, 15:45
Hi guys,
Long time lurker, first time poster. I've mongered in Bangkok before and this forum has been very helpful. Quick question for this time. Are the girls at the pimp (assuming they agree to go home with you) prettier than the ones at the top escort agencies? Assuming money is not an issue and I want to bring back a super pretty, sexy girl (yes possible starfish, I know. Its a last trip before settling down for me), would Pimp be a best option?
Realize beauty is in the eye of the beholder, etc but on average what would my best option be?
Why is it that some guys believe every woman in particular countires are on the take? Or is it that they believe since they can not get a woman to sleep with them that does not want money then it means no man can get a woman to sleep with them that does not want money? Since I got here last Friday I have fucked 3 paid women and 5 non-paid women. One of the unpaid women is new to me and works at Central Festival and stayed over 2 different night. Another unpaid woman I have been fucking over 2 years and she always sees me with other women on my bike. Spent the night at her place last night and she cooked for me.What is the point of your post? While I had freebies in Thailand as well and didn't take the same approach as the person you replied too, I can understand why he would offer money. Some guys offer to pay money to get rid of the girl. Your specific experiences are all too common and not worth mentioning. Why is it that some guys have to take the opportunity to brag about a sex buddy that is all to common with men in their own countries?
So when I say free I mean free. When I say paid, I mean no more than 1200 baht LT.Like anyone else, I can get plenty of free or cheap girls. Unfortunately, I like my girls to be good looking. Like top 2 or 3 girls in a top gogo good looking. Life is too short to be shagging mediocre poontang. We all have different priorities.
I will shag the occasional midget or unique wild looking girl just to change things up. haha
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dVp_y5dvd9w
CzarNicholas
05-30-19, 22:01
Females do not appear to be as hung up on the age of the partner, as many males are. We will never understand them.
Definitely they are far more economically motivated than us, and also want reliable guys. There is the thing about trying Farangs.
Some girls do say they would rather have good sex with an older guy, over bad sex with a young selfish guy, however I think they would take the young hot guy in preference if he performs as good, and can appear experienced. I definitely notice a big decline in the way young Thai girls respond to me, compared to over 25 years ago, yet my skills are better now.
Girls can get it off, and can close their eyes if necessary and pretend its a young Brad Pitt, I guess.
In general, older guys are never seen as undesirable as older girls, if they are in reasonable condition. Some girls claim to like fat older guys. One very slim Long Gun special dancer girl of the past, would knock me back, and say she much preferred older cuddly Teddy Bear (fatter) type guys, and only went with guys occasionally (possible had a BF). Perhaps she was scared the sex workout would be too arduous. Maybe was just bullshit. I will never know. She was always happy to sit with me and get drunk. Just no sex available..I can say he looks about 47 not 67, and he's probably in better shape than most 27 yr olds.
CzarNicholas
05-30-19, 22:31
Like anyone else, I can get plenty of free or cheap girls. Unfortunately, I like my girls to be good looking. Like top 2 or 3 girls in a top gogo good looking. Life is too short to be shagging mediocre poontang. We all have different priorities.
I will shag the occasional midget or unique wild looking girl just to change things up. haha
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dVp_y5dvd9wCan I ask what kind of service you're willing to pay for from the top 2-3 gogos?
I'm guessing the condoms are everywhere? And are pulled out before you even get to your room?
What do you pay?
How old are you?
I will take #4 and #5 any day with some awesome PSE and I name the price!
Sex with a condom isn't sex, its just a bullshit (feminist con) simulation!
Franciscass
05-31-19, 02:07
I can say he looks about 47 not 67, and he's probably in better shape than most 27 yr olds.Didn't he just say that he is 47 and feels when he is 67 it may be a different world for him.
Mr Enternational
05-31-19, 03:26
What is the point of your post? While I had freebies in Thailand as well and didn't take the same approach as the person you replied too, I can understand why he would offer money. Some guys offer to pay money to get rid of the girl. Your specific experiences are all too common and not worth mentioning. Why is it that some guys have to take the opportunity to brag about a sex buddy that is all to common with men in their own countries?How is it bragging? The point of my post is that I pay chicks that are hookers. I do not pay chicks that are not hookers. I do not run around offering to pay every chick that I meet. I have never understood why many guys on ISG say it is bragging to say you fucked someone you did not have to pay as if paying is the norm in the world and not paying is some extreme outlier. Some seem to be stuck in the P4P world when it comes to real life. Real life is that the majority of people are not paying to fuck each other.
I can say he looks about 47 not 67, and he's probably in better shape than most 27 yr olds.Hey, man, you're messing with my long established and accepted rep here. LOL.
But thanks for the comment.
I normally prefer young 20's, but for the sake of debate I will post a couple of photos of chicks in their 30's. Both of these girls are 34 years old. One is free, one is not free. You can be your own judge as to whether it's worth paying or not.
I'm guessing the condoms are everywhere? Never use a condom, they take away all the feelin'.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Hx_li0u5ws
I normally prefer young 20's, but for the sake of debate I will post a couple of photos of chicks in their 30's. Both of these girls are 34 years old. One is free, one is not free. You can be your own judge as to whether it's worth paying or not.LOL. That's a trick question. They are both the same girl! The one on the right is the way she really looks. The one on the left is the photo she posts on her dating site profile where she asks you to transfer money for her travel from Kalasin to meet you in Bkk.
Oh, and the photo on the left is also the one guys post on sites like to prove they shagged a hottie from Kalasin last night.
Was chatting to a short petite pretty Sisaket girl in the pub, where she works. She is somewhat like my Mrs in the face (very cute for my taste), but maybe body a little behind my GF. She mentions she would like to get a Farang BF, however she knows I am taken. I would take her likely, if I was available, and I get a feeling she likes me (thinking I am a good guy ha ha and able to live in the province too). I asked how old she is now (no baby). She said 36. I was flabbergasted, and thought she was pulling my leg. I really thought she was only 26, with all my experience too. Apparently she is very inexperienced with only 1 BF ever for just a few months. Seems shy, sweet, innocent, and very inexperienced at 36. Ha ha. Has always been too busy working etc. , and she says she is lazy to chat to guys by phone, if she never met them. Thai guys do not appeal to her, she likes farangs, but most Farangs in the pub of a suitable age, are taken. I imagine she would have to target guys of 46 up. Look for one just divorced, and looking for something better than before.
So she is a great catch for looks and sweetness, down side is age, shortness (5 foot nothing) and incredible inexperience. Might be hopeless on the bed. Maybe could learn. I have had shy inexperienced girls before for a GF and usually did not suit me that well sexually. Some are too conservative. There are countless Thai women aged 30 and up looking for Farang BF or husband, quite possibly older, however the vast majority of them already have a child as well.
Once met a tall pretty girl working at an airport café looking for a farang BF also. Again I was taken at the time. So many chances like this come up that one cannot really take advantage of, unless dishonest.
My message really, is that there are very nice looking very sweet Thai girls around available that are not hookers, if guys had a previous relationship with an overly bitchy women (my ex wife was moody, and usually a foul mood) and wants to find something a lot nicer. They may not be sex bombs in the slightest however. The big problem is it takes so long to determine real compatibility with a woman. I am fairly sure of my Thai GF now after 15 years. Ha ha. There were culture clash problems early on.
CzarNicholas
05-31-19, 11:56
Never use a condom, they take away all the feelin'.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Hx_li0u5wsWhat do you consider your top 5-10 fav bars in BKK?
LOL. That's a trick question. They are both the same girl! The one on the right is the way she really looks. The one on the left is the photo she posts on her dating site profile where she asks you to transfer money for her travel from Kalasin to meet you in Bkk.
Oh, and the photo on the left is also the one guys post on sites like to prove they shagged a hottie from Kalasin last night.Naw. I've never shagged either, I don't know the one on the right but I do know the one on the left. She's extremely high maintenance and looks exactly like that.
ShinyCrazy
05-31-19, 23:18
I'm in the very early planning stages of a 2 week trip to LOS with a friend who has never been. I've been about a dozen times. My favorite P4 P spots around the world are Germany, Spain, Thailand, and Colombia. My friend will mostly want young GFE. I am more interested in two girls with strap-on, rimming, BBBJ / CIM PSE-style non-stop experience, like Eden Club or Devil's Den. Overall, I want to make sure he has an "over the top" amazing experience and want him to see lots of variety of venues, especially with hands-on public nudity / sex if possible. From my prior trips, my personal favorites are Analisa for pretty girls who are skilled in strap on, DokiDoki for the prettiest girls, Billboard for the hottest gogo girls, Windmill for the public action, and Devil's Den for the non-stop PSE tag team experience. For what it is worth, I like thin girls.
Here is my list so far. I want to start with a comprehensive list, then narrow it down. Please let me know if I am missing a spot or a venue category that you love.
BKK.
Oily Massage with pretty girls: DokiDoki, Analisa.
Oily Massage with older experienced full service women: Tulip, Snow White.
PSE shops: Eden Club.
Nana Gogos: Billboard, Butterflies, Twister.
Cowboy Gogos: Crazy House, Shark, Dollhouse.
Other massage: Honeybee, Cherry, Cupid, Mango, EZMassage, Boss.
Pattaya.
Hand-on Gogos: Windmill, Babydolls, Pandoras, Kink, Electric Blue.
Soi 6 for daytime action.
PSE shops: Devil's Den.
Also thinking about adding one more destination for regular tourism appeal. If it has good P4 P that would be even better. I've been to Phuket, Chiang Mai, and Sukhothai. Thinking about Chiang Rai or Ayutthaya, but open to suggestions.
Thanks for any and all comments!
She's extremely high maintenance and looks exactly like that.Now there's a surprise. . . LOL.
I get flamed a lot but that's why i say I don't take the hottest girls in the club / Gogo etc. The baggage often makes the looks not worth the high price of admission.
Give me an 8 that knows how to say thanks anyday.
But each to his own, I guess. 😁.
Enjoy. G.
PedroMorales
05-31-19, 23:56
Also thinking about adding one more destination for regular tourism appeal. If it has good P4 P that would be even better. I've been to Phuket, Chiang Mai, and Sukhothai. Thinking about Chiang Rai or Ayutthaya, but open to suggestions. Thanks for any and all comments!As I am very impressed with your all action plans, I would be interested to know what you intend to eat to keep you going.
Chiang Rai is too far. Ayutthaya is near BKK and good for a night or two, and Bridge over the Kwai for a BKK day trip. No bonking which allows you to recharge.
What do you consider your top 5-10 fav bars in BKK?I don't know man, I haven't been to bkk in over a year. The talent in those places changes so frequently. I will be there soon though and let you know then.
I have a Thai GF, we are bored with discos every night. Last night she wanted a quiet place for drinking, listening to music, maybe live singer or group. She doesn't like jazz, too bad. I only know the Sukh scene. Any suggestions would be most welcome!!
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