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[LookingLooking]

A question to the Forum travelers who have planned and stayed in Thailand for 35 days instead of the 30 days granted to US passport holders. I have been to Thailand multiple times but have never had the luxury to stay for longer than 10 days or so, now retired, everyday is a Saturday. Thanks in advance of your experiences, and possible procedures. I do know where Immigration is in Jomtien near where I will be staying but it would be nice to get it over and done with in advance if possible.Go to the Thai embassy in your country. Apply for a 60 or 90 day tourist visa before flying there.

Be sure to have the list of documents ready before you submit the application, to ensure a fast and smooth process.

Got mine approved and issue the next business day after submitting the documents in person.

[Pimpampoumpipo]

Hello,

I want to travel to Thailand as part of the Test & Go but I am still Covid positive (Sars Cov2 detected) after 18 days.

I now have a valid European Recovery Certificate.

For those who have had this experience or who are sufficiently informed, would you have the answers to the following questions:

1 - Is this Recovery Certificate well recognized at Phuket and Suvarnabhumi airports?

2 - Do I still have to do a Covid test on arrival? Do I have to do quarantine if I'm still positive?

3 - Do you know hotels that refuse the registration of positive people with a Certificate of Recovery?

4 - Should a PCR test also be done on the 5th day? Do I have to do quarantine if I'm still positive?

Thank you for your answers.

Best regards.

[Mr Enternational]

A question to the Forum travelers who have planned and stayed in Thailand for 35 days instead of the 30 days granted to US passport holders. I have been to Thailand multiple times but have never had the luxury to stay for longer than 10 days or so, now retired, everyday is a Saturday. Thanks in advance of your experiences, and possible procedures. I do know where Immigration is in Jomtien near where I will be staying but it would be nice to get it over and done with in advance if possible.Usually they make you wait until your time is up before you extend. You can't just go anytime and tell them to add 5 more days. I would do as Looking said and get the time from the embassy before going.

[Tomasb]

First, You need to check with Thai Visa or the Thai embassy in your home country.

The answer to many of your questions are Yes. Yes, you must be tested twice on day of arrival and day 5. Both most be arranged through a designated hotel approved by Thai Government (SHA). You have to stay at this hotel on Day 1, and again on Day 5. You must have Covid insurance at your expense. You have to allow your whereabouts to be tracked on your phone between those two testing dates, if you elect to stay elsewhere in the interim days. You must have a PCR test and be negative prior to departing from your own country. If you test positive on either day, woe is you because you may find yourself in a hospital or a field hospitel for 10 days quarantine, the latter accommodations are mainly converted formerly dodgy hotels.

Why anyone would submit themselves to these conditions are beyond me. Good luck but you have some work to do.


Hello,

I want to travel to Thailand as part of the Test & Go but I am still Covid positive (Sars Cov2 detected) after 18 days.

I now have a valid European Recovery Certificate.

For those who have had this experience or who are sufficiently informed, would you have the answers to the following questions:

1 - Is this Recovery Certificate well recognized at Phuket and Suvarnabhumi airports?

2 - Do I still have to do a Covid test on arrival? Do I have to do quarantine if I'm still positive?

3 - Do you know hotels that refuse the registration of positive people with a Certificate of Recovery?

4 - Should a PCR test also be done on the 5th day? Do I have to do quarantine if I'm still positive?

Thank you for your answers.

Best regards.

[HorseTrader]

Go to the Thai embassy in your country. Apply for a 60 or 90 day tourist visa before flying there.Going to the Thai embassy or consulate is old school, maybe not even possible now. Don't even need to mail away your passport or buy a money order. Try the E-Visa. Easy and free. Instead of getting a visa pasted into your passport they will send approval email. You print that email and give it to airlines and Thai immigration upon your arrival.

https://www.thaievisa.go.th/

Sorry I can't seem to get the link to work, you can copy and paste into your browser.

[LookingLooking]

Going to the Thai embassy or consulate is old school, maybe not even possible now. Don't even need to mail away your passport or buy a money order. Try the E-Visa. Easy and free. Instead of getting a visa pasted into your passport they will send approval email. You print that email and give it to airlines and Thai immigration upon your arrival.

https://www.thaievisa.go.th/

Sorry I can't seem to get the link to work, you can copy and paste into your browser.Don't know about the country mentioned, but in my country the online application was closed until further notice (closed for more than a year now). So applying in person was the only way to do so in my country.

[StLouisMo2010]

Don't know about the country mentioned, but in my country the online application was closed until further notice (closed for more than a year now). So applying in person was the only way to do so in my country.I was on the website yesterday from US, worked fine for me, I did not get it finished yet, but I think there is a $50 fee (1650 Baht approx) which I think is about the same if appearing in person in Thailand. There are multiple "document attachments" , one of which was the "insurance documentation" and on the web site is "requires" $100,000 US coverage, which I think is old and now down to $50,000, but that error or change may or may not flunk your application if it is not exactly what they are looking for at the Embassy. They also say you can apply 90 days prior to arrival, while more current announcements have said 60 days prior to arrival. Cheers.

[HorseTrader]

I was on the website yesterday from US, worked fine for me, I did not get it finished yet, but I think there is a $50 fee (1650 Baht approx) which I think is about the same if appearing in person in Thailand. Yes, there is a fee. I was wrong on the free part. I believe it was free in early December.

The website that I mentioned below is new. The website should work almost everywhere. Very early in the process there will be a series of simple, non personal, questions that will determine if you need a visa and if the E-Visa is appropriate for you. Definitely look at that webpage before you start dealing with embassy or consulate. In my case I need a visa and the E-Visa is appropriate.

[Tomasb]

I meant that the poster should review the Covid and visa guidelines or their website, not that he should go to the Embassy.


Going to the Thai embassy or consulate is old school, maybe not even possible now. Don't even need to mail away your passport or buy a money order. Try the E-Visa. Easy and free. Instead of getting a visa pasted into your passport they will send approval email. You print that email and give it to airlines and Thai immigration upon your arrival.

https://www.thaievisa.go.th/

Sorry I can't seem to get the link to work, you can copy and paste into your browser.

[ActionGene]

I just watched a really great interview on YouTube from a guy who just entered Thailand under your exact circumstances. I thought it was a fascinating interview because it detailed everything that happened to him at the airport and at the hotel upon check-in. Here is a link to the interview. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YRFbyaeoa2g&t=1127s&ab_channel=BuzzinPattaya.


Hello,

I want to travel to Thailand as part of the Test & Go but I am still Covid positive (Sars Cov2 detected) after 18 days.

I now have a valid European Recovery Certificate.

For those who have had this experience or who are sufficiently informed, would you have the answers to the following questions:

1 - Is this Recovery Certificate well recognized at Phuket and Suvarnabhumi airports?

2 - Do I still have to do a Covid test on arrival? Do I have to do quarantine if I'm still positive?

3 - Do you know hotels that refuse the registration of positive people with a Certificate of Recovery?

4 - Should a PCR test also be done on the 5th day? Do I have to do quarantine if I'm still positive?

Thank you for your answers.

Best regards.

[Pimpampoumpipo]

Thank you for the answers that have been sent regarding the use of a Recovery certificate.

I specify that my main concern was to be quarantined on arrival in Thailand if I was positive despite a Recovery Certificate. The procedure says that I can get on the plane (if I understood correctly, paragraph 2 of the Embassy flyer "in case of positive RT-PCR result must have a medical certificate stating that you have recovered.... "), but nothing is indicated on what happens on arrival in Thailand. And I have a huge doubt. Everything that is not written can be subject to interpretation and in general doubt always works against you.

For the moment I have not found a formal and reliable answer for my personal case. I sent an email to Thailand Pass who never answered me. A hotel in Phuket told me that I will be tested on arrival and that depending on the CT used I will be quarantined or not. Following the doctor's advice.... Faced with such uncertainty, I preferred to give up my trip temporarily.

So far my journey has been as follows:

1 - Tested positive covid (during the test before departure 72 hours for Phuket Sandbox).

2 - Onset of symptoms the next day (probably Omicron).

3 - Very slight fever for 3 days. Runny nose and caught.

4 - Antigen negative after one week but still PCR positive.

5 - PCR negative after 3 weeks.

In this mess I consider that I was lucky to have been diagnosed positive at home rather than in Thailand.

I specify that I was vaccinated 3 doses (AZ, AZ, Pfizer) before.

Since my negative PCR test, I have rescheduled a Test & Go Phuket stay, leaving next week.

And put a candle in the church.

[SinfullyKorean]

Thank you for the answers that have been sent regarding the use of a Recovery certificate.

I specify that my main concern was to be quarantined on arrival in Thailand if I was positive despite a Recovery Certificate. The procedure says that I can get on the plane (if I understood correctly, paragraph 2 of the Embassy flyer "in case of positive RT-PCR result must have a medical certificate stating that you have recovered.... "), but nothing is indicated on what happens on arrival in Thailand. And I have a huge doubt. Everything that is not written can be subject to interpretation and in general doubt always works against you.

For the moment I have not found a formal and reliable answer for my personal case. I sent an email to Thailand Pass who never answered me. A hotel in Phuket told me that I will be tested on arrival and that depending on the CT used I will be quarantined or not. Following the doctor's advice.... Faced with such uncertainty, I preferred to give up my trip temporarily.

So far my journey has been as follows:

1 - Tested positive covid (during the test before departure 72 hours for Phuket Sandbox).

2 - Onset of symptoms the next day (probably Omicron).

3 - Very slight fever for 3 days. Runny nose and caught.

4 - Antigen negative after one week but still PCR positive.

5 - PCR negative after 3 weeks.

In this mess I consider that I was lucky to have been diagnosed positive at home rather than in Thailand.

I specify that I was vaccinated 3 doses (AZ, AZ, Pfizer) before.

Since my negative PCR test, I have rescheduled a Test & Go Phuket stay, leaving next week.

And put a candle in the church.I've been following the ThailandTourism subreddit for a while now. This specific thread https://old.reddit.com/r/ThailandTourism/comments/spzb0k/test_go_i_already_had_covid_and_the_pcr_test_will/ asks the exact same question. While it's hard to get definitive answers to "what if" questions, the consensus is that you'll be OK and you can show the Certificate of Recovery to the virtual doctor to avoid quarantine in case your PCR test comes back positive.

[SinfullyKorean]

A question to the Forum travelers who have planned and stayed in Thailand for 35 days instead of the 30 days granted to US passport holders. I have been to Thailand multiple times but have never had the luxury to stay for longer than 10 days or so, now retired, everyday is a Saturday. Thanks in advance of your experiences, and possible procedures. I do know where Immigration is in Jomtien near where I will be staying but it would be nice to get it over and done with in advance if possible.I'm in the same boat. Just retired to spend my days traveling and mongering. First stop is Thailand for about 60 days, maybe longer, but probably not due to heat. We'll see. Next stop after that is Brazil.

But yes, as others have mentioned, get a visa for however long you're planning on traveling. It's a bit of a hassle right now. There's a lot of forms to fill out. Some prerequisites for travel. You've probably already done your research: Thailand Pass, travel insurance (e. G. AXA. Not Sawadee), visa, international driver's permit, hotel, pcr test, plane ticket, etc. If you need more info on this, let me know. I just finished all my paperwork and bookings and I'm just waiting on the visa approval now.

[Sam Sanuk]

The Taiwan CDC has announced that passengers will be allowed to transit Taoyuan International Airport with some restrictions beginning June 25. This is welcome news for me, given that I prefer EVA Airlines for my travel across the Pacific. Mid-priced fares, preferred schedules / flying time durations, and superior service are the reasons for this preference. See https://www.cdc.gov.tw/En/Bulletin/Detail/pis3aYhaXkLCDrN8XV-9KQ?typeid=158.

SS.

[Applesauce]

The Taiwan CDC has announced that passengers will be allowed to transit Taoyuan International Airport with some restrictions beginning June 25. This is welcome news for me, given that I prefer EVA Airlines for my travel across the Pacific. Mid-priced fares, preferred schedules / flying time durations, and superior service are the reasons for this preference. See https://www.cdc.gov.tw/En/Bulletin/Detail/pis3aYhaXkLCDrN8XV-9KQ?typeid=158.
That announcement was from June 24,2020 and hasn't been applicable anymore for a long time.

[Tcvve]

Can anybody recommend a taxi service that will take you from Suvarnabhumi airport to Pattaya for.

1000 baht?

Thanks.

Tc.

[TConor]

Can anybody recommend a taxi service that will take you from Suvarnabhumi airport to Pattaya for.

1000 baht?

Thanks.

Tc.https://www.pinterest.com/pin/243264817347057283/

[Mr Enternational]

Can anybody recommend a taxi service that will take you from Suvarnabhumi airport to Pattaya for. 1000 baht?Just go upstairs to the 4th floor and outside and cross over the median to where the taxis are. They may try to get you for 1500, but tell them 900 and you will pay the tolls. The total will be 960 and I always just give them 1000. Quick and simple.

But if you insist on a service I have a guy. I think it is 1200 from the airport and 1000 back to the airport, tolls included. PM me and I will give you his info.

[Sam Sanuk]

Finally good news. No more need to get a covid test before boarding a plane to the USA.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/transportation/2022/06/10/covid-testing-requirement-ends/

[Tvataham274]

Finally good news. No more need to get a covid test before boarding a plane to the USA.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/transportation/2022/06/10/covid-testing-requirement-ends/Hell yeah! Now I can write off 'visit a Thailand hospital' from my bucket list when I finally take my trip!

[Explorer8939]

I was talking to a lady yesterday about online sex, and she mentioned what she called a "group" of high end customers. Apparently, they pay extravagant amounts of money to ladies, one lady I know was paid 40,000 baht for an overnighter in Bangkok. Some Indian couple paid 100,000 baht for a party where the woman had a Ladyboy lick her pussy.

Too rich for my blood. If I put out 2,000, that's big money for me.

[Mr Enternational]

Finally good news. No more need to get a covid test before boarding a plane to the USA.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/transportation/2022/06/10/covid-testing-requirement-ends/But if you are connecting through a country that requires one.

[Mogwai]

Hell yeah! Now I can write off 'visit a Thailand hospital' from my bucket list when I finally take my trip!And maybe you can write off 'go to heaven' as well, if you're 'lucky'.

[Chimpo Chinn]

Arrived last night. One of the First things to do was to see where Dr Donna was located.

Moot point now.

Not counting tourist Sex Spots Bangkok looks functionally.

Functional. The rich are doing what rich do. Go shopping.

Middle of day Bts main line packed liked Sardines.

[Explorer8939]

I get lots of Facebook friend requests, sometimes these result in ladies from Isaan showing up at my place when they first arrive in Pattaya. So, unless the friend request is an obvious bot, or a lady outside of Thailand, I generally accept them.

I got a request from a lady in Ubon who wanted to have a conversation. She wanted to know if I lived in Pattaya, and some general stuff.

The next day, she messaged me that she wanted a favor. She had an outstanding loan of 200,000 baht, and wanted me to pay it off.

I blocked her in record time.

[HardDrive]

Can anybody recommend a taxi service that will take you from Suvarnabhumi airport to Pattaya for.

1000 baht?

Thanks.

Tc.I use Nam taxi. Pre Covid her service was 1200 baht but well worth it. She employed only female drivers who didn't do any of the crazy driving you get from the regular taxi drivers out in front of the airport. Very comfortable and clean later model 4 door sedans.

[HardDrive]

I use Nam taxi. Pre Covid her service was 1200 baht but well worth it. She employed only female drivers who didn't do any of the crazy driving you get from the regular taxi drivers out in front of the airport. Very comfortable and clean later model 4 door sedans.Just checked her website and she shows BKK airport to Patts at 1000 baht. With rising gas prices I would expect that to go up. https://www.namstaxiladydrivers.com/.

[Mr Enternational]

Just checked her website and she shows BKK airport to Patts at 1000 baht. With rising gas prices I would expect that to go up. https://www.namstaxiladydrivers.com/.Those cars use natural gas and cost hardly anything to fill up. Is the price of that up as well?

[Tvataham274]

But if you are connecting through a country that requires one.Connecting flights need a covid test? Which ones? I'm considering buying a ticket that stops at ICN.

[Mr Enternational]

Connecting flights need a covid test? Which ones? I'm considering buying a ticket that stops at ICN.Transit passengers. Passengers originating from the United States who transit through Korean airports (who do not pass through immigration) do not require a negative PCR COVID-19 test and have no quarantine requirement for stays less than 24 hours.

Passengers originating from other countries should consult the ROK Embassy in the country of their departure to find out whether a negative PCR COVID-19 test is required to transit through Korean airports. The Korean Immigration Contact Center can clarify testing requirements for transit passengers at telephone number. Transit passengers should also confirm entry requirements at their onward destination. Please note, there are no COVID testing facilities available in airport transit areas.

https://kr.usembassy.gov/022420-covid-19-information/#:~:text=Transit%20passengers.,stays%20less%20than%2024%20hours.

[Mogwai]

Just checked her website and she shows BKK airport to Patts at 1000 baht. With rising gas prices I would expect that to go up. https://www.namstaxiladydrivers.com/.I think Russia is supplying Asia with cheap oil, now that the US and Europe have decreased their import. China in particular, and maybe Thailand as well?

[TConor]

I think Russia is supplying Asia with cheap oil, now that the US and Europe have decreased their import. China in particular, and maybe Thailand as well?But it will only make the Baht weaker. https://www.google.com/search?channel=trow5&client=firefox-b-d&q=us+dollar+to+baht.

[Pimpampoumpipo]

Can anybody recommend a taxi service that will take you from Suvarnabhumi airport to Pattaya for.

1000 baht?.Tom Taxi +66 98 281 2537 also available with Whatsapp.

Available online almost immediately.

I used them every time from Suvarnabhumi to Pattaya and back for 10 years. I come about 10 times a year to Pattaya. Limousine type vehicle. Perfect service. Never had a problem, always on time (and even early).

Price 1000 Baths Suvarnabhumi <> Pattaya.

And 1200 bahts Bangkok Sukhumvit <> Pattaya.

[Tvataham274]

Can anybody recommend a taxi service that will take you from Suvarnabhumi airport to Pattaya for.

1000 baht?

Thanks.

Tc.https://www.namstaxiladydrivers.com/

[Lcale1982]

It's been a while I been to thailand. Now that Thailand seems a lot easier to travel to, what's the going rate for short / long. I usually went to the gogo bars and I think it was around 100 usd long / overnight back when I visited.

[EihTooms]

It's been a while I been to thailand. Now that Thailand seems a lot easier to travel to, what's the going rate for short / long. I usually went to the gogo bars and I think it was around 100 usd long / overnight back when I visited.My experience has been most Nana Plaza and Soi Cowboy go-go bars charge a 700 - 800 baht barfine today. Some might charge as much as 1,000 baht during weekends or holidays. Of course, that is what you pay the bar to take the girl out and is generally not negotiable.

The girls then typically quote 3,000 baht for Short Time and 5,000 baht for Long Time if they are willing to do a Long Time at all.

That amount quoted by the girl is usually quite negotiable and will often be lowered to 2,500 baht for Short Time if you just so much as hesitate to accept and agree to the 3,000 baht quote for 5 seconds. 2,000 is very doable if you state that amount and don't ask for anything special other than whatever that particular girl deems to be acceptable P4 P service. 1,500 baht? Maybe. If the conditions and timing are right and the girl really needs the money ASAP.

In my case, I do ask for something not generally on the standard fare menu; boom boom no condom / BBFS+CIP. I might even throw in kissing with our tongues touching a little / DFK, BBBJ and ask if their pussy is shaved or not just to round out my most minimal requirements for a worthwhile P4 P experience.

If BBFS+CIP is not agreed to upfront, I might then ask if and how she would finish a BBBJ for me. CIM? CIM+Swallow? Run across the room with an umbrella and jump behind the couch? If her answer is acceptable, I might still take a NO BBFS+CIP girl for that.

But my asking for an upfront agreement for BBFS+CIP or BBBJ+CIM+Swallow will typically move me to remain at 2,500 baht for Short Time and not haggle for the next 10 minutes to get it down to 2,000.

I suppose if I am really attracted to and aroused by the girl I would even agree to her first wish quote if that's what it takes for her to agree upfront to my first wish level of sexual pleasure with her.

[Mogwai]

It's been a while I been to thailand. Now that Thailand seems a lot easier to travel to, what's the going rate for short / long. I usually went to the gogo bars and I think it was around 100 usd long / overnight back when I visited.The rates have tripled.

[HorseTrader]

The rates have tripled.300 USD for overnight? 10,000 baht? Are you kidding? I can't believe it is even close to that. I haven't done LT in quite some time, only ST, so I don't really know current LT prices.

[Chimpo Chinn]

It's been a while I been to thailand. Now that Thailand seems a lot easier to travel to, what's the going rate for short / long. I usually went to the gogo bars and I think it was around 100 usd long / overnight back when I visited.Long time with Hot girls not on offer.

Short time with Fuglies is whatever you can agree on. I've heard 500 and a donut to 1,000 and a Chicken.

[Houston Player]

It's been a while I been to thailand. Now that Thailand seems a lot easier to travel to, what's the going rate for short / long. I usually went to the gogo bars and I think it was around 100 usd long / overnight back when I visited.My experience is that the ST / LT rates in go-go bars is the same as it was pre-covid and so are the bar fines. I don't think the rate has changed much since 2017, I can't remember much before then, LOL. The exchange rate is a little better now so it's actually a little cheaper. 2500-3000ST and 4000-6000 LT. You can still find some 2000ST and 3000 LT but that is not the norm.

Now if you're talking about 10-20 years ago I have no idea you'll have to consult Mr. Goatscrot.

I just realized this post is in the general thread instead of the Bangkok thread. My response was based on my experience in Bangkok. Pattaya is not the same except for the very top tier clubs.

[Tvataham274]

If you are BBFSing that often, how often do you catch anything? Are you on PreP? Or self treat with antibiotics?


My experience has been most Nana Plaza and Soi Cowboy go-go bars charge a 700 - 800 baht barfine today. Some might charge as much as 1,000 baht during weekends or holidays. Of course, that is what you pay the bar to take the girl out and is generally not negotiable.

The girls then typically quote 3,000 baht for Short Time and 5,000 baht for Long Time if they are willing to do a Long Time at all.

That amount quoted by the girl is usually quite negotiable and will often be lowered to 2,500 baht for Short Time if you just so much as hesitate to accept and agree to the 3,000 baht quote for 5 seconds. 2,000 is very doable if you state that amount and don't ask for anything special other than whatever that particular girl deems to be acceptable P4 P service. 1,500 baht? Maybe. If the conditions and timing are right and the girl really needs the money ASAP.

In my case, I do ask for something not generally on the standard fare menu; boom boom no condom / BBFS+CIP. I might even throw in kissing with our tongues touching a little / DFK, BBBJ and ask if their pussy is shaved or not just to round out my most minimal requirements for a worthwhile P4 P experience.

If BBFS+CIP is not agreed to upfront, I might then ask if and how she would finish a BBBJ for me. CIM? CIM+Swallow? Run across the room with an umbrella and jump behind the couch? If her answer is acceptable, I might still take a NO BBFS+CIP girl for that.

But my asking for an upfront agreement for BBFS+CIP or BBBJ+CIM+Swallow will typically move me to remain at 2,500 baht for Short Time and not haggle for the next 10 minutes to get it down to 2,000.

I suppose if I am really attracted to and aroused by the girl I would even agree to her first wish quote if that's what it takes for her to agree upfront to my first wish level of sexual pleasure with her.

[HorseTrader]

If you are BBFSing that often, how often do you catch anything? Are you on PreP? Or self treat with antibiotics?This brings up an interesting point for those who do BB anything.

From what I've read, chances of getting HIV are small for those who do not allow anything to be inserted into themselves (needles or penis); I suspect that is most of us. Thailand also has a massive HIV treatment system, after identification of HIV, the patients are treated and medicated for life. They get quarterly medical checkups for their HIV. They have good success at bringing CD4 levels up to safe levels. The amount of HIV in their systems becomes so low that it cannot be detected and BB sex becomes safe. I don't think HIV is a big concern for straight punters who do not share needles. Is it 100% safe? No.

I worry more about other viruses than HIV.

Bacterial infections are a completely different thing. They grow quickly and can spread quickly. I once read an internet article that described contents of a police station "rape kit". One item was a single 250 MG dose of Azithromycin (one sixth of a Z-pak). I wonder if taken after BBFS that would be sufficient to prevent bacterial infections from multiplying. I've been unable to find that article recently, so I cannot reread it.

[EihTooms]

If you are BBFSing that often, how often do you catch anything? Are you on PreP? Or self treat with antibiotics?I have been mongering and bareback fucking hundreds of regular girls and thousands of P4 P girls since I was 19 years old, 50 years ago now. In all that time I have only caught a dose of trichomoniasis from a university girlfriend when I was in my early 20's. Took some prescribed pills for 5-6 days, so did she, and it was gone.

Other than that, I have not caught anything sexually that has exhibited symptoms, shown up in a lab test or infected any of my partners so as to hear about it from them.

Got a vasectomy decades ago and never impregnated a girl. As far as I know, that is.

I did get some abrasions on the skin of my dick 3-4 years ago from an overly aggressive cowgirl rider. I wasn't sure if that was all it was so, for the first time I did take some over-the-counter antibiotics. But the rough spots were gone by the next day after simply applying some regular moisturizing lotion from Foodland Market. Ordinary Nivea Lotion. So I think it was only abrasions as I suspected.

I do routinely get tested for HIV and Syphilis at Thai Red Cross in Bangkok every month or two in order to have a results document to show any partner or potential partner who wants to see it. Takes about an hour, 200 baht per test, 400 baht total. Been doing that every month or two for the almost 10 years I have lived here and it has always turned up Normal / Negative / Non-Reactive. I also got the 3-shot vaccination for HPV there several years ago since I do a lot of DATY.

Almost every time I get tested a counselor gives me the results privately in an office and asks if I use condoms, do I have a girlfriend, multiple partners and so on. I always tell the man or woman counselor the truth; No and Many. Not once in all these years has a counselor then recommended, suggested or even hinted I ought to consider taking PrEP. Yet I know they have it there, sell it there and might even give it away for free under certain circumstances. I don't take it.

Take that for whatever it's worth. I hope that helps. As always, YMMV.

[Member #4753]

This brings up an interesting point for those who do BB anything.

From what I've read, chances of getting HIV are small for those who do not allow anything to be inserted into themselves (needles or penis); I suspect that is most of us. Thailand also has a massive HIV treatment system, after identification of HIV, the patients are treated and medicated for life. They get quarterly medical checkups for their HIV. They have good success at bringing CD4 levels up to safe levels. The amount of HIV in their systems becomes so low that it cannot be detected and BB sex becomes safe. I don't think HIV is a big concern for straight punters who do not share needles. Is it 100% safe? No.

I worry more about other viruses than HIV.

Bacterial infections are a completely different thing. They grow quickly and can spread quickly. I once read an internet article that described contents of a police station "rape kit". One item was a single 250 MG dose of Azithromycin (one sixth of a Z-pak). I wonder if taken after BBFS that would be sufficient to prevent bacterial infections from multiplying. I've been unable to find that article recently, so I cannot reread it.If you BB anything regularly then chances are you are going to catch something. Standard dosing for a runny dick is:

Doxycycline 100 MG. Twice daily for seven days.

Azithromycin 1000 - as a single dose, or can split into 2 doses.

All taken on an empty stomach which is slightly unpleasant, but not too bad. Everything is available without prescription at most independant pharmacys.

[Mogwai]

300 USD for overnight? 10,000 baht? Are you kidding?Yes, I was kidding. Just another way to say 'RTFF'.

[SinfullyKorean]

If you BB anything regularly then chances are you are going to catch something. Standard dosing for a runny dick is:

Doxycycline 100 MG. Twice daily for seven days.

Azithromycin 1000 - as a single dose, or can split into 2 doses.

All taken on an empty stomach which is slightly unpleasant, but not too bad. Everything is available without prescription at most independant pharmacys.Chances of catching HIV via vaginal sex is almost 0:

https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/chances-of-getting-hiv#chances-of-contracting-hiv



receptive penile-vaginal intercourse: 0.08%
insertive penile-vaginal intercourse: 0.04%
During my 2 month stay in Pattaya, I BB'd regularly. I got some good advice from a fellow ISG member I met there to take a piss after going BB. I got tested when I got back in the US. To my surprise, I didn't have chlamydia nor gonorrhea. I was surprised because I thought I noticed white cloudy discharge. But I got the swab test and it came back negative. Those tests are 99% accurate.

[Breadman]

Went to use the ATM today and every so often you get a machine that asks if you want their rate or to continue without using their well conversion. Always go the no conversion route. It told me my total would be $609 usd with their conversion but I selected without. I then went into my bank account and the deduction was $574. Easy to lose $34 if you don't pay pay attention.

[EihTooms]

Chances of catching HIV via vaginal sex is almost 0:

https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/chances-of-getting-hiv#chances-of-contracting-hiv

During my 2 month stay in Pattaya, I BB'd regularly. I got some good advice from a fellow ISG member I met there to take a piss after going BB. I got tested when I got back in the US. To my surprise, I didn't have chlamydia nor gonorrhea. I was surprised because I thought I noticed white cloudy discharge. But I got the swab test and it came back negative. Those tests are 99% accurate.Good to hear about your test results.

Also, it should be mentioned those "0. 08%" and "0. 04%" chances of contracting HIV through receptive and insertive penile-vaginal sex, respectively, as cited in your link are "Per 10,000 exposures" estimates with 1 exposure meaning fucking an HIV-Postive person.

Moreover, with the HIV control drugs easily available today, a person who previously tested positive for HIV but whose drug regime has lowered the viral level to a point where it no longer shows up in a routine test would not realistically be among those "Per 10,000 exposures" sexual partners.

Giving or receiving Oral Sex, receptive or insertive, provides so LOW a chance of contracting HIV per 10,000 exposures they don't even warrant a fraction of a percentage estimate on that link.

[Horatio]

I was in Phuket right before COVID shut down the bars. Does it cost roughly the same to eat out at the less expensive Thai cafes? Are the street food vendors as plentiful as they were? Thanks for any info.

[SinfullyKorean]

Went to use the ATM today and every so often you get a machine that asks if you want their rate or to continue without using their well conversion. Always go the no conversion route. It told me my total would be $609 usd with their conversion but I selected without. I then went into my bank account and the deduction was $574. Easy to lose $34 if you don't pay pay attention.You mean you selected WITH conversion instead of without. I hate it when they prompt that question. I always second guess myself when I'm choosing the "without conversion" option.

[Pimpampoumpipo]

I got tested when I got back in the US. To my surprise, I didn't have chlamydia nor gonorrhea. I was surprised because I thought I noticed white cloudy discharge. But I got the swab test and it came back negative. Those tests are 99% accurate.I had white discharge on the penis February of this year in Rawai - Phuket. I was tested twice, once with urine and once by taking a sample directly from the losses. Both times the tests came back negative. Yet I'm sure it was gonococcus, I've had it before, I know what it is.
I was cured by taking 2 types of antibiotics, oral and sting treatment for a horse.
I think that in Rawai they must see quite a lot of these illnesses and they know how to cure them.

[Pimpampoumpipo]

Read in a scientific journal: "A sperm has a maximum lifespan of 2 days, but the most vigorous ones can sometimes survive up to 4 to 5 days in the vagina of the woman. ".

Good luck to all our BBFS.

[Crocodilexp]

I was in Phuket right before COVID shut down the bars. Does it cost roughly the same to eat out at the less expensive Thai cafes? Are the street food vendors as plentiful as they were? Thanks for any info.In Bangkok, food costs have increased significantly, maybe 50% compared to 2019. I suspect it's similar elsewhere, not sure about the specific spots in Phuket that you have in mind, it's a big island.

[HorseTrader]

In Bangkok, food costs have increased significantly, maybe 50% compared to 2019. I suspect it's similar elsewhere, not sure about the specific spots in Phuket that you have in mind, it's a big island.Food costs in Patong and Koh Samui have also increased, but not 50% increase. Half of my favorite restaurants have closed. A friend tells me that street food in Aonang has nearly doubled, he lived there until May. I felt smaller Aonang restaurant increases when I was there in April 2022.

As of April, Patong still has plenty of street food, but not as much as early 2020. Still a good cluster of vendors at the north end of the beach. I forgot the name of the market that is a bit south of OTOP, but that had nearly everything open. Perhaps 30% to 50% fewer food carts scattered around Patong. I found myself walking further for the particular street food item that I wanted at that moment.

[TConor]

In Bangkok, food costs have increased significantly, maybe 50% compared to 2019. I suspect it's similar elsewhere, not sure about the specific spots in Phuket that you have in mind, it's a big island.A 10% to maybe 25% if you are going to tourist traps. I know if a noodle soup for lunch went from 35 THB to even 45 THB that's only a 28.6% increase. But high % of increases is common when going from a very low price. But a coke zero at 7/11 has only gone from 13 THB to 15 or maybe 17 THB & at 17 THB that is a 30% increase. And the big BUT is in 2019 32.5 THB = $1, today 35.43 , I just looked it up. 9% decrease. So a 13 THB coke in 2019 cost $. 40 , today a 17 THB one costs $. 48. Only a 20 % increase. And I really think this 17 THB is the higher end of pricing. Maybe really 15 THB, My point 50% is BS, unless you don't know where to shop.

[Mogwai]

In Bangkok, food costs have increased significantly, maybe 50% compared to 2019. I suspect it's similar elsewhere, not sure about the specific spots in Phuket that you have in mind, it's a big island.Just like Horse Trader already said, I have noticed some small increases in BKK and Pattaya, but definitely not 50%. Not even in the tourist traps.

A tall Americano at Starbucks has gone up from 105 to 115 baht, which makes it slightly more expensive than in my home country, the Netherlands, where it is EUR 2.95.

[TooDirty]

Has anyone ever thought about buying gold in Thailand? I watched a you tube video or two, and it seems like if you buy the baht gold ingots you pay very little markup 100-200 baht versus the premiums over the actual asking price you pay if buying gold from some of the websites in the USA? Can you buy in dollars or credit card so as not to lose on the exchange rate? Anyone know of a good source of info on the matter? I imagine if you bought in dollars it would have to be pristine absolutely perfect $20's? Thanks for any info on the matter. Does Thailand do silver? I really hate paying the premium on silver in the USA.

[Sarha Otzar]

Hey,

I'm arriving BKK mid September and wonder whether should I go to Pattaya, for example? Or another place? Obviously I'm looking for better quality in service / looks / variety. It's monsoon peak so its even more complex, since I think it might be less of a deal in BKK.

Thanks in advance.

[Mr Enternational]

Has anyone ever thought about buying gold in Thailand? I watched a you tube video or two, and it seems like if you buy the baht gold ingots you pay very little markup 100-200 baht versus the premiums over the actual asking price you pay if buying gold from some of the websites in the USA? Can you buy in dollars or credit card so as not to lose on the exchange rate? Anyone know of a good source of info on the matter? I imagine if you bought in dollars it would have to be pristine absolutely perfect $20's? Thanks for any info on the matter. Does Thailand do silver? I really hate paying the premium on silver in the USA.This is Thailand. They use baht, not dollars. I doubt anyone will take a credit card for buying gold unless they are also adding the fee that the credit card company is going to charge them. They also would not want to risk you canceling the charge.

If you go to the gold shops then they charge you spot price per gram plus 400 baht commission. If you go to a jewelry store or gem shop then you better look up your prices first. There are 1 and 5 baht weight gold bars that come in 96.5% and 99% purity.

My jeweler is making some 18 K stuff for me. They always only charge me the price they get the material for then they add labor which is really cheap. The other day the price for 1 gram was 1718 baht. I went shopping the gem shops on Beach Road for an 18 K chain to go with my pendant. Honest wanted 2600 baht / gram. He swore there could not be a cheaper price. Or that like many ISG posters swear about hookers, if there is a cheaper price then it is inferior. World wanted 2800 baht / gram and I think another shop (Star?) wanted 2400 baht / gram.

The next day I ran over to my other jeweler in Jomtien to see if she had anything. She was not there, but her workers were charging me 2250 baht / gram. I sent her a message in Line and she came to the shop. She let me have it for 1900 baht / gram.

Spot price of silver is 22 baht / gram. I do not know who would want to buy, carry around, and store $10,000 or 35 weight pounds worth of that.

[SinfullyKorean]

Hey,

I'm arriving BKK mid September and wonder whether should I go to Pattaya, for example? Or another place? Obviously I'm looking for better quality in service / looks / variety. It's monsoon peak so its even more complex, since I think it might be less of a deal in BKK.

Thanks in advance.Pattaya is slightly cooler, being next to the beach. But the difference is negligible. I think BKK is better for looks and Pattaya is better for service. But if you're only spending 7 days, I don't think you can go wrong in either. Either way, you won't have time to find some of the best talents in the local clubs. So you'll probably stick to some of the mongering staples like Soi 6, WS, or Beach Street in Pattaya or Nana, Soi Cowboy, and Thermae in BKK. Pattaya will be significantly cheaper. But if you're only staying for 7 days, I don't think you should be worrying so much about the price.

[TooDirty]

This is Thailand. They use baht, not dollars.Thanks for the reply, it was informative.

I only consider credit card because I often get 0% interest offers for 18 months, but figured I'd have to weigh that against a 3% markup.

And yes carrying 35 lbs of silver isn't something you'd want to do in a zombie apocalypse.

[Tcvve]

Hi.

Anyone know where I can get a Testosterone injection in Pattaya.

I understand the cost is 8000 baht.

I am staying in Soi Diana. So getting there from my hotel would be helpful.

Thanks.

TC.

[Miss MaryHinge]

In my research and planning I've been trawling the Thai Friendly app.

It's pretty exhausting especially for the larger cities like bkk and Pattaya.

Was wondering if we can share on here recommended girls?

If so I'd be interested in getting TF names, especially if large chested and slimish, tall or short.

[HardDrive]

Hi.

Anyone know where I can get a Testosterone injection in Pattaya.

I understand the cost is 8000 baht.

I am staying in Soi Diana. So getting there from my hotel would be helpful.

Thanks.

TC.There is a pharmacy on Beach Road very close to Tim's Bar / Tahitian Queen gogo where you can buy the test vials and syringes at a reasonable price. I'm sure the pharmacist would jab you for a tip if you aren't comfortable doing it yourself.

Note that I visited this pharmacy preCovid. Can't verify it still exists.

[HorseTrader]

Hi.

Anyone know where I can get a Testosterone injection in Pattaya.

I understand the cost is 8000 baht.

I am staying in Soi Diana. So getting there from my hotel would be helpful.

Thanks.

TC.


There is a pharmacy on Beach Road very close to Tim's Bar / Tahitian Queen gogo where you can buy the test vials and syringes at a reasonable price. I'm sure the pharmacist would jab you for a tip if you aren't comfortable doing it yourself.

Note that I visited this pharmacy preCovid. Can't verify it still exists.Testosterone is not something to be played with unless you have proper medical supervision and testing. At a minimum, get your testosterone level checked in advance and learn what the numbers mean. If you continue to use it, other things become a concern.

For self administration, there are expensive daily gels, which are very simple. You can also get vials of testosterone and syringes for bi-weekly self injection. The urologist may also inject some longer life testosterone or maybe give you implants that last about 90 days.

That 8000 baht price tag sounds like implanted pellets. The self injected testosterone from a vial should be much less expensive (maybe 1500 baht for a 6-month supply).

[Sarha Otzar]

I noticed there are escorts in smooci with a tag: COF (cum on face). Did anyone try it?

Also, I have high velocity shots, will it be a problem?

Any suggestions on how to aim will be appreciated. Can't find any instructions on the internet.

[LittleBigMan]

I'm not into that kind of stuff, but there is a clinic? On the Corner of Pattaya Klang and 3rd Road down from Big see Extra, you can take a Songthaw on Soi Buakhao to Pattaya Klang for 10 baht.

[GrapeMan]

I noticed there are escorts in smooci with a tag: COF (cum on face). Did anyone try it?

Also, I have high velocity shots, will it be a problem?

Any suggestions on how to aim will be appreciated. Can't find any instructions on the internet.Haha can't be real. Anyways, if a girl is advertising COF, that means you can cum on her face, but you'll probably be asked to aim for her mouth. Not because she doesn't do it, but because if you nut all over her face she has to redo her makeup, and thai girls don't like to have to do that, takes them a lot of time.

[Sarha Otzar]

Haha can't be real. Anyways, if a girl is advertising COF, that means you can cum on her face, but you'll probably be asked to aim for her mouth. Not because she doesn't do it, but because if you nut all over her face she has to redo her makeup, and thai girls don't like to have to do that, takes them a lot of time.Noted to myself hehe. Just curiosity though. I don't think I'll do it, ever. Better experience other things like 3 sm maybe.

[PayForIt]

A question for senior members who know Thailand very well.

I have an upcoming week only in beautiful Thailand.

Previously been to Banglok many times, Koh Samui, Phuket many times, Pattaya several times etc. Never been to Hua Hin or other islands.

I have only 1 week and fly into Bangkok where I have one business meeting. So that ensures one night in town and I fly out of BKK so that leaves 5 other nights. What would senior guys recommend? I wanted to go to both Pattaya and Hua Hin but they stopped the ferry so a long trip from one to the other. Would you guys do more nights in BKK or all 5 in either of Huan Hin or Pattaya or a mix? Want to avoid loads of flights.

[Mr Enternational]

I wanted to go to both Pattaya and Hua Hin but they stopped the ferry so a long trip from one to the other. Would you guys do more nights in BKK or all 5 in either of Huan Hin or Pattaya or a mix? Want to avoid loads of flights.Ain't shit in Hua Hin. I certainly would not waste it there. I don't think there are any flights to avoid. I think the drive from Pattaya to Hua Hin was like 5 hours and cost me 2500 baht in a private car.

[AggieDad1]

A question for senior members who know Thailand very well.

I have an upcoming week only in beautiful Thailand.

Previously been to Banglok many times, Koh Samui, Phuket many times, Pattaya several times etc. Never been to Hua Hin or other islands.

I have only 1 week and fly into Bangkok where I have one business meeting. So that ensures one night in town and I fly out of BKK so that leaves 5 other nights. What would senior guys recommend? I wanted to go to both Pattaya and Hua Hin but they stopped the ferry so a long trip from one to the other. Would you guys do more nights in BKK or all 5 in either of Huan Hin or Pattaya or a mix? Want to avoid loads of flights.The difference between Hua Hin and Pattaya are like night and day. Hua Hin is much more laid back and quiet. There is a night live scene and plenty of bars to hang out in. In May I had the same plans as you and chose to go to Hua Hin first. Never made it to Pattaya. I liked Hua HIn and decided to stay there. But that was me. I am a 67 year old man who has had a very stressful couple of years. I found plenty of companionship in Hua Hin and enjoyed the peace and quiet. If you want peace and quiet then go to Hua Hin. If you want lots of nightlife and an endless selection of women then go to Pattaya. The trip to Hua Hin is about 4 hours by car or bus. Once there you are looking at an 8 hour trip to Pattaya.

[AggieDad1]

FYI.

https://www.bangkokpost.com/thailand/general/2358831/consumption-of-cannabis-drink-leads-to-arrest-at-malaysian-border

[Vendelo]

... I am a 67 year old man who has had a very stressful couple of years. I found plenty of companionship in Hua Hin and enjoyed the peace and quiet….I am a handful or years behind you. Same story. Since March 2020 I never missed a day of work and reported to the office every day. Understaffed and lots to BUT I got shit done and now it is decompression time in Thailand for two weeks. Currently in Samui with a nice girl. Just give me peace and quiet and an Isan girl. Life is good!

P.S. Always admired Jackie Sherrill.

[PayForIt]

The difference between Hua Hin and Pattaya are like night and day. Hua Hin is much more laid back and quiet. There is a night live scene and plenty of bars to hang out in. In May I had the same plans as you and chose to go to Hua Hin first. Never made it to Pattaya. I liked Hua HIn and decided to stay there. But that was me. I am a 67 year old man who has had a very stressful couple of years. I found plenty of companionship in Hua Hin and enjoyed the peace and quiet. If you want peace and quiet then go to Hua Hin. If you want lots of nightlife and an endless selection of women then go to Pattaya. The trip to Hua Hin is about 4 hours by car or bus. Once there you are looking at an 8 hour trip to Pattaya.This is really informative thanks. Obviously a different take to Mr Enternational who doesn't rate Hua Hin. I have done Pattaya before but oddly didn't really like Walking street much. Not sure why as I like Phuket / Bangla Rd and Koh Samui but then in BKK I prefer Soi Cowboy, Therme and even Hilary (pool bar) to Nana. I just wanted to try somewhere new but from BKK without a flight the options are not great. Last time I did this I ended up flying all over (Phnom Penh / HCMC / KL / Sing) and felt exhausted and wondered if I should just have picked one or two places. A hint that I am getting older! I found myself using the soapies in Pattaya more than the nightlife albeit with one unforgettable night. I think a few days on the coast chilled out sounds really nice but the whole reason for seeking advice was to ask you guys on the ground and for Mr E (clearly one of the most senior and respected posters in the Thai forums) to take the view that Hua Hin has little to offer, is a worry.

The ferry would have made my mind up to go to both. I don't want to waste an entire day travelling in a car (be it 5 hours as Mr E suggests, or 8 in your experience). Wondering if I could get a private taxi boat but then equally don't want to risk some dodgy boat cutting out in the middle of the ocean! It's not about the cost for me. It's about the time. There are no direct flights.

Which leads me to a final question if you both don't mind: leaving aside Pattaya and Hua Hin completely, are there any other destinations you would have suggested to go to instead of either? Thanks for the help. Greatly appreciated.

[Member #4753]

This is really informative thanks. Obviously a different take to Mr Enternational who doesn't rate Hua Hin. I have done Pattaya before but oddly didn't really like Walking street much. Not sure why as I like Phuket / Bangla Rd and Koh Samui but then in BKK I prefer Soi Cowboy, Therme and even Hilary (pool bar) to Nana. I just wanted to try somewhere new but from BKK without a flight the options are not great. Last time I did this I ended up flying all over (Phnom Penh / HCMC / KL / Sing) and felt exhausted and wondered if I should just have picked one or two places. A hint that I am getting older! I found myself using the soapies in Pattaya more than the nightlife albeit with one unforgettable night. I think a few days on the coast chilled out sounds really nice but the whole reason for seeking advice was to ask you guys on the ground and for Mr E (clearly one of the most senior and respected posters in the Thai forums) to take the view that Hua Hin has little to offer, is a worry.

The ferry would have made my mind up to go to both. I don't want to waste an entire day travelling in a car (be it 5 hours as Mr E suggests, or 8 in your experience). Wondering if I could get a private taxi boat but then equally don't want to risk some dodgy boat cutting out in the middle of the ocean! It's not about the cost for me. It's about the time. There are no direct flights.

Which leads me to a final question if you both don't mind: leaving aside Pattaya and Hua Hin completely, are there any other destinations you would have suggested to go to instead of either? Thanks for the help. Greatly appreciated.I have been through Hua Hin a few times and there really isn't much there. Pattaya and Bangkok have such a huge variety Hua Hin really doesn't compare and as you said it is a bit of a hike there and not much in between. I personally would not like to get there via water taxi, the chance of being ill is high. A big ferry would be fine but as you said you would lose a day.

Apart from Pattaya and Bangkok I would suggest Phuket. The Island is beautiful and there are plenty of options.

[Explorer8939]

I was in Udon Thani recently, and was struck by the number of elderly Farangs accompanied by much younger Thai ladies.

Since I am a firm believer in the 3 day rule, I can't imagine living with a Thai lady who is only in it for money. Actually, I did for a couple of months last year, during Covid. I kicked her out for whining about her Thai boyfriend all the time.

The exception is travel, I will go with a Thai lady abroad for a while. Being away from Thailand changes their perspective.

[ThaiGoodTimes]

A question for senior members who know Thailand very well.

I have an upcoming week only in beautiful Thailand.

Previously been to Banglok many times, Koh Samui, Phuket many times, Pattaya several times etc. Never been to Hua Hin or other islands.

I have only 1 week and fly into Bangkok where I have one business meeting. So that ensures one night in town and I fly out of BKK so that leaves 5 other nights. What would senior guys recommend? I wanted to go to both Pattaya and Hua Hin but they stopped the ferry so a long trip from one to the other. Would you guys do more nights in BKK or all 5 in either of Huan Hin or Pattaya or a mix? Want to avoid loads of flights.Hua Hin is excellent and worth the effort.

You won't find gogos or soapies.

You will find great small bar and massage areas, plus a hidden away late night area.

I live in Phuket, and love it, I am happy visiting Bangkok, and detest Pattaya.

Yet I am comfortable and relaxed whenever I am in Hua Hin.

[Mr Enternational]

I think a few days on the coast chilled out sounds really nice but the whole reason for seeking advice was to ask you guys on the ground and for Mr E (clearly one of the most senior and respected posters in the Thai forums) to take the view that Hua Hin has little to offer, is a worry.I went with my girl because I wanted beaches. Maybe I was expecting too much. Also keep in mind that I did rent a car when we were there so I drove all around the place. My main reason was to go to the beach on the military base in Prachuap Khiri Khan that was supposed to be so good. Different strokes for different folks and you won't know if you never go. I noticed a world of difference from the people you see in Pattaya and the Thai tourists I saw in Hua Hin. None of those people had tattoos!

[Allover]

I went with my girl because I wanted beaches. Maybe I was expecting too much. Also keep in mind that I did rent a car when we were there so I drove all around the place. My main reason was to go to the beach on the military base in Prachuap Khiri Khan that was supposed to be so good.I thought about going to that military beach made somewhat famous by Joe, the Youtube vlogger. But on closer viewing it doesn't seem like anything special. I would think a drive 1 hour from Pattaya would get you a nicer beach. I've thought about Koh Chang this August or September but I was led to believe the island pretty much closed down due to rainy season. Ay thoughts on Koh Chang during rainy season?

[PayForIt]

Just a quick note of appreciation to all who responded to my request. A very mixed bag of responses with some saying Hua Hin is really worth the effort whilst others saying not worth it at all. As Mr E says, if you don't try you won't know. I a likely to be joined on the business trip by one colleague so will feed back with him and see what we decide to do. As he is in his 30's my guess is he will want the razz of Pattaya more than the tranquil Hua Hin but who knows. Interesting (and sensible) feedback on not taking a private water taxi! Cannot thank the responders enough for the valuable contributions.

[Utente1391]

Hua Hin is excellent and worth the effort.

You won't find gogos or soapies.

You will find great small bar and massage areas, plus a hidden away late night area.

I live in Phuket, and love it, I am happy visiting Bangkok, and detest Pattaya.

Yet I am comfortable and relaxed whenever I am in Hua Hin.Can you share why you don't like Pattaya? Too budy / crowded compared to Hua Hin?

[Big Sky Nomad]

First post after joining. Am planning for 30 or 40 days in Thailand Jan / Feb. Been researching a lot and would like any thoughts people might add. Thinking about BKK for a week or so, Pattaya for a week or, Phuket for a couple then back to Pattaya / BKK before heading back. Quit drink a ways back and the idea of go go bars doesn't trip my trigger, too noisy. I'm 66 so I wonder how big a factor that is with the ladies (I work out so pretty fit)? Was looking at the Aspira One Hotel in Suttisan? For a base camp to start. Right at a subway stop. Plan to both chase tail and sightsee. Is there a better area than that to start? Been spending hours looking at hotels in these spots. Does a guy need to book them now to be sure he gets what he wants or can I do that once I arrive. Hate to be tied down if a place is great. Having retired a bachelor I'm looking for a place to get out of the MT winters with reasonable costs. The ladies are a nice side benefit.

Spent time in BKK and Phuket long ago. Was in the Mississippi Queen bar on Pat Pong (IIRC) on New Years Eve 1977 and spent two weeks on Nang Hahn? Beach in Phuket staying in a bamboo thatch hut with a sand floor. Think there were only a couple resorts back then on the island, lots of hippie types from Oz and Europe. It was a blast. Glad to be on board and plan to share what fun I can find there on the forum.

[ThaiGoodTimes]

Can you share why you don't like Pattaya? Too budy / crowded compared to Hua Hin?I don't know if you will understand this unless you've seen a lot of Thailand, away from the tourist traps even.

I mean by that, away from Bangkok, Pattaya, and even in Phuket.

I have traveled extensively, in Thailand, all of Isaan, up north and down south, seen the normal life of Thais you might say.

I didn't like the Thais attitude towards you in Pattaya.

They, and I mean girls, had become hardened, almost non Thai in cultural personality.

Way less real smiles, fun, and engagement.

Great Thai people, working girls, and others, are still there, but you have to work harder to break through their in place defenses.

In Hua Hin, I find the smiles are still genuinely there.

Maybe because most working girls there still live in communal "workplace" settings, so they still have linkages, not isolation.

[Crocodilexp]

I'm 66 so I wonder how big a factor that is with the ladies (I work out so pretty fit)? Of course not, they're professionals. Why would hookers care how fit you are? If anything, a few girls might avoid young guys since they prefer not to get rogered too hard for too long.

If you're looking for civilians, be forewarned that Farang are far less popular than 10-20 years ago (let alone back in 1977!) and lower your expectations. At your age, you might find your choices limited, but still more abundant than back home. ThaiFriendly is a decent place to look for civilians, mixed in with a few freelancers.


Was looking at the Aspira One Hotel in Suttisan? For a base camp to start. Right at a subway stop. Plan to both chase tail and sightsee. Is there a better area than that to start? Way too far from the action. Only good if you don't mind using short time hotels. If you want to take girls from Sukhumvit, don't be more than 4-5 stops from Nana BTS or Asoke MRT station or a 10-15 minute taxi ride away.


Does a guy need to book them now to be sure he gets what he wants or can I do that once I arrive. Best to book a hotel for 2-3 days at first, see if you like the place and the neighborhood, then extend or move on. Occupancy is generally low, and unlikely to skyrocket this year.

[Utente1391]

I don't know if you will understand this unless you've seen a lot of Thailand, away from the tourist traps even.

I mean by that, away from Bangkok, Pattaya, and even in Phuket.

I have traveled extensively, in Thailand, all of Isaan, up north and down south, seen the normal life of Thais you might say.

I didn't like the Thais attitude towards you in Pattaya.

They, and I mean girls, had become hardened, almost non Thai in cultural personality.

Way less real smiles, fun, and engagement.

Great Thai people, working girls, and others, are still there, but you have to work harder to break through their in place defenses.

In Hua Hin, I find the smiles are still genuinely there.

Maybe because most working girls there still live in communal "workplace" settings, so they still have linkages, not isolation.Thanks for the reply, would you have some suggestions for smaller places to visit away from the beaten path that still offer some possibilities mongering wise like hua hin? I'm heading to LOS for 30+days in October and might consider to change places if I get tired of pattaya after 2/3 weeks.

[Explorer8939]

Today, I am performing a very difficult maneuver: I am going to the village with a bargirl. This is a classic ritual, if you barfine a lady twice, she will offer to take you to her village. Some Farangs believe this is a preliminary to marriage, or otherwise means they are very special.

The twist here is that I am going to two different villages with two different ladies today. Don't try this at home.

Actually, I am in the village for two days, I am staying in a rather low rent "resort". I had a third lady from a different village sleep with me last night. She was as hot as a firecracker, apparently it's not so easy for bargirls to hook up with a local guy when they come back to the village. If you ever lived in a small town, you would understand. She couldn't get enough, until I passed out.

Fun in Isaan.

[Big Sky Nomad]

Of course not, they're professionals. Why would hookers care how fit you are? If anything, a few girls might avoid young guys since they prefer not to get rogered too hard for too long.

If you're looking for civilians, be forewarned that Farang are far less popular than 10-20 years ago (let alone back in 1977!) and lower your expectations. At your age, you might find your choices limited, but still more abundant than back home. ThaiFriendly is a decent place to look for civilians, mixed in with a few freelancers.

Way too far from the action. Only good if you don't mind using short time hotels. If you want to take girls from Sukhumvit, don't be more than 4-5 stops from Nana BTS or Asoke MRT station or a 10-15 minute taxi ride away.

Best to book a hotel for 2-3 days at first, see if you like the place and the neighborhood, then extend or move on. Occupancy is generally low, and unlikely to skyrocket this year.Thanks for your assistance. Asoke seems centrally located from my research, close to the subway and light rail. Anyone have suggestions on moderately priced (30 to 50 bucks) lodging in the area? How is getting around via subway and light rail? I'm leery of cabs due to stories about ripoffs.

[Explorer8939]

Thanks for your assistance. Asoke seems centrally located from my research, close to the subway and light rail. Anyone have suggestions on moderately priced (30 to 50 bucks) lodging in the area? How is getting around via subway and light rail? I'm leery of cabs due to stories about ripoffs.If only there were a topic here about "Bangkok Hotels".

[Chimpo Chinn]

If only there were a topic here about "Bangkok Hotels".Red Planet. Only drawback I see is no mini Refrigerator.

[Vendelo]

Today, I am performing a very difficult maneuver: I am going to the village with a bargirl. This is a classic ritual, if you barfine a lady twice, she will offer to take you to her village. Some Farangs believe this is a preliminary to marriage, or otherwise means they are very special.

The twist here is that I am going to two different villages with two different ladies today. Don't try this at home.

Actually, I am in the village for two days, I am staying in a rather low rent "resort". I had a third lady from a different village sleep with me last night. She was as hot as a firecracker, apparently it's not so easy for bargirls to hook up with a local guy when they come back to the village. If you ever lived in a small town, you would understand. She couldn't get enough, until I passed out.

Fun in Isaan.I love this post.

[Papae Noel]

As was just suggested, you need to check the Bangkok Hotels section. Also, get your Ipad out and enter Asoke BTS, then zoom out to search some of the many hotels available. You might find more than a few for $50. I would not necessarily recommend going for $30, but that's just me.

Look at Soi 18 - a little quieter than being right on Sukhumvit. Looks like there are a few choices on Soi 14, which would be even closer to Asoke. But maybe not as quiet.

How is BTS and MRT? Amazing, and cheap. Recommended!!

[Crocodilexp]

Thanks for your assistance. Asoke seems centrally located from my research, close to the subway and light rail. Anyone have suggestions on moderately priced (30 to 50 bucks) lodging in the area? How is getting around via subway and light rail? I'm leery of cabs due to stories about ripoffs.Asoke is close to the action and great for transportation, with both BTS and MRT. As for hotels, looking at sites like Agoda, Booking.com or Google hotels would serve you better than random advice from someone here.

As for taxis, it's easy to avoid the ripoffs. When entering the cab (before you sit, with the door open), state your destination and say "meter". If they refuse or offer you a fixed fare, try another passing cab, perhaps a bit further down the road. Don't bother with taxis waiting around.

[ThaiGoodTimes]

Today, I am performing a very difficult maneuver: I am going to the village with a bargirl. This is a classic ritual, if you barfine a lady twice, she will offer to take you to her village. Some Farangs believe this is a preliminary to marriage, or otherwise means they are very special.

The twist here is that I am going to two different villages with two different ladies today. Don't try this at home.

Actually, I am in the village for two days, I am staying in a rather low rent "resort". I had a third lady from a different village sleep with me last night. She was as hot as a firecracker, apparently it's not so easy for bargirls to hook up with a local guy when they come back to the village. If you ever lived in a small town, you would understand. She couldn't get enough, until I passed out..Life is so much fun.

I hope you keep living it for a long time longer.

Be careful tho if they say they're just going to feed the ducks.

[ThaiGoodTimes]

Thanks for the reply, would you have some suggestions for smaller places to visit away from the beaten path that still offer some possibilities mongering wise like hua hin? I'm heading to LOS for 30+days in October and might consider to change places if I get tired of pattaya after 2/3 weeks.Sorry for the delay in answering, but I had missed seeing your reply.

Four weeks in Pattaya sends shivers of dread down my spine.

If you like it, no problem, but you will likely very much end up doing the same day in and day out LOL.

If you need to change for a week, then.

I would definitely recommend seeing Hua Hin, probably for 3-4 days to see if you like it.

As I am a strong advocate of it's style of more personable and friendly (as in less games) Thai mongering.

I would also recommend Rawai area of Phuket, which I will admit is my home base by choice.

It has the advantage that there is a lot of action, albeit spread out.

And many things to do to take a break from mongering.

Plus you can head easily into Patong for more mainstream hardcore action as an adjunct, or if you find Rawai not to your liking.

In the past I would have also suggested Koh Samui, but sadly that mongering scene is in very slow recovery.

[Big Sky Nomad]

If only there were a topic here about "Bangkok Hotels".Apologies, still learning my way around. Thanks to those who have indulged my rookieness.

[Big Sky Nomad]

As was just suggested, you need to check the Bangkok Hotels section. Also, get your Ipad out and enter Asoke BTS, then zoom out to search some of the many hotels available. You might find more than a few for $50. I would not necessarily recommend going for $30, but that's just me.

Look at Soi 18 - a little quieter than being right on Sukhumvit. Looks like there are a few choices on Soi 14, which would be even closer to Asoke. But maybe not as quiet.

How is BTS and MRT? Amazing, and cheap. Recommended!!Appreciate the assistance and apologies for the wrong forum inquiry. I've been scouring the travel sites for a while, seems like they like to airbrush up the lower priced ones. Looks like you can find newer, decent digs in the 40 to 50 range. Also been studying maps to get the lay of the town. Thanks again.

[AggieDad1]

Am I the only one who feels uneasy about being in a bus on the elevated highway around Bangkok? The parapet walls on either side would be high enough to prevent a swerving car from toppling over. A bus would most likely fall down the 20-meter drop and kill everyone. A bus on those highways is as dangerous as a bus in the Chilean Andes.Try not to think about it. The fatality rate in vehicle accidents is very high in Thailand, along with the murder rate and suicide rate. Best to just think about how tight that girl you will be with tonight is, and not the many ways you will meet a sudden death in Thailand. 5555.

[Rick Rock]

Try not to think about it. The fatality rate in vehicle accidents is very high in Thailand, along with the murder rate and suicide rate. Best to just think about how tight that girl you will be with tonight is, and not the many ways you will meet a sudden death in Thailand. 5555.You forgot the HIV rate.

[MartinFlevo]

You forgot the HIV rate.https://www.cdc.gov/hiv/risk/estimates/riskbehaviors.html

Simple said. If you fuck someone with hiv (anal sex) there is a change of 11/10. 000 (that's 0,0011%) to get HIV (highest possible score for straight guys).

Population with HIV in thailand is estimated at 1%.

So simple math. Yes there is a risk. But being hit by a motorbike is more likely to happen.

[Rick Rock]

https://www.cdc.gov/hiv/risk/estimates/riskbehaviors.html

Simple said. If you fuck someone with hiv (anal sex) there is a change of 11/10. 000 (that's 0,0011%) to get HIV (highest possible score for straight guys).

Population with HIV in thailand is estimated at 1%.

So simple math. Yes there is a risk. But being hit by a motorbike is more likely to happen.Thailand has the highest HIV rate in Asia, by far.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_HIV/AIDS_adult_prevalence_rate

1. 1% prevalence means approximately 1 out of 90 people have it.

That's one out of every 90 Thais. Including old people, young people, police, teachers, university professors.

When you look into prostitutes as a segment of the population, the percentage is much higher.

This scientific peer-reviewed study found prevalence of 20.2 percent among female prostitutes in Bangkok. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4935540/.

There were higher rates in "non venue" prostitutes, which means freelancers. Venue based workers had a 2. 5 percent prevalence.

Thailand has a high HIV rate. HIV is concentrated in sex workers.

Heterosexuals can and do get HIV infections. It's not such "simple math" because there are things like menstruation, blood, HPV, HSV and other factors that can raise the chance of infection several times over.

This is all undisputed fact that anyone with an elementary education can understand.

Thailand also has one of the highest road death rates in the world. Second on earth last time I checked.

And one of the highest murder rates in Asia. Higher than Myanmar and Bangladesh even. Over 8 times higher than Japan, South Korea, Singapore.

It's a pretty terrible place overall. A real third world hell hole. That's one reason so much of the population ends up doing prostitution. Well educated and adjusted rich kids from healthy societies don't often end up turning tricks to foreign pensioners.

Enjoy your time in the LOS.

[RedMau5]

Thailand has the highest HIV rate in Asia, by far.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_HIV/AIDS_adult_prevalence_rate

1. 1% prevalence means approximately 1 out of 90 people have it.

That's one out of every 90 Thais. Including old people, young people, police, teachers, university professors.

This is all undisputed fact that anyone with an elementary education can understand..Except when you pay more attention and do your research before babbling, you realize the data of 1. 1% is ages 15-49. That's what footnotes are for. Common sense tells you 450,000 in a country close to 70,000,000 is NOT 1.1%. So it's not one out of every 90 Thais. Feel free to apologize to the Kingdom with the capital known to locals as the City of Angels.

[Pute Nut]

This scientific peer-reviewed study found prevalence of 20.2 percent among female prostitutes in Bangkok. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4935540/Thanks for posting this. Surprisingly high figures there. That study is 15 years old though, are there any newer similar studies with fresher figures? Could the payment for taking the tests (400 baht) and recruitment bonuses offered for bringing in more subjects (50 baht) have skewed the sample somewhat?

[HorseTrader]

Thailand has the highest HIV rate in Asia, by far.

.....

This is all undisputed fact that anyone with an elementary education can understand.

....
I have a bit more than an elementary education, but I need you to explain something to me. How does your posted information account for the many Thai citizens who have HIV but get the proper treatment and their levels are so low that they cannot transmit HIV to another person? Does the 1.1% include those people as having HIV or not? I'm sure you are aware that the Thai medical system includes a large program to provide regularly scheduled lifetime treatment for HIV patients at very little cost to the patient.

[ThaiGoodTimes]

Thanks for posting this. Surprisingly high figures there. That study is 15 years old though, are there any newer similar studies with fresher figures? Could the payment for taking the tests (400 baht) and recruitment bonuses offered for bringing in more subjects (50 baht) have skewed the sample somewhat?So this old chestnut has been trotted out again, so so so funny still as it is a totally irrelevant and outdated survey.

It has absolutely 100% skewed results and factors, due to its small, non random sampling, targeted survey population of low price non venue street workers.

In other words those that primarily service the local male low income Thai and Burmese population, not local expats or tourist punters.

Not to mention that it is as old as a century egg (as pointed out above).

Furthermore, it even says that other surveys had found results at the time of just 2. 5% in venue based sex workers.

This survey has no relevance whatsoever for punters punting in Bangkok today.

Unless possibly if they're picking up ultra low price street walkers way down Soi Nana.

Here is the studies summary and terms of reference.

The pattern of sex work in Thailand has shifted substantially over the last two decades from direct commercial establishments to indirect venues and non-venue-based settings. This respondent-driven sampling survey was conducted in Bangkok in 2007 among female sex workers (FSW) in non-venue-based settings to pilot a new approach to surveillance among this hidden population. Fifteen initial participants recruited 707 consenting participants who completed a behavioural questionnaire, and provided oral fluid for HIV testing, and urine for sexually transmitted infection (STI) testing. Overall HIV prevalence was 20.2% (95% confidence interval CI 16.3–24.7). Three-quarters of women were street-based (75.8%, 95% CI 69.9–81.1) who had an especially high HIV prevalence (22.7%, 95% CI 18.2–28.4); about 10 times higher than that found in routine sentinel surveillance among venue-based FSW (2. 5% STI prevalence (Chlamydia trachomatis and Neisseria gonorrhoeae) was 8. 7% (95% CI 6. 4–10.8) and 1. 0% (95% CI 0. 2–1. 9), respectively. Lower price per sex act and a current STI infection were independently associated with HIV infection (P < 0. 05). High HIV prevalence found among FSW participating in the survey, particularly non-venue-based FSW, identifies need for further prevention efforts. In addition, it identifies a higher-risk segment of FSW not reached through routine sentinel surveillance but accessible through this survey method.

[OneMinuteBoy]

Can the HIV talk be moved to the lounge: http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?3663-Thailand-Lounge-and-Chat-area.

Or to the general HIV section http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?1077-The-Truth-about-AIDS.

[Pute Nut]

Can the HIV talk be moved to the lounge: http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?3663-Thailand-Lounge-and-Chat-area.

Or to the general HIV section http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?1077-The-Truth-about-AIDS.Yes, let's move it out of sight, out of mind.

[Member #4807]

Rumours around that VOA is offered for 30 days instead of 15 . Confirmations anyone? What about waiting times at Bkk main airport compared to the ones in Chiangmai or Phuket?

[Sunlover2]

Rumours around that VOA is offered for 30 days instead of 15 . Confirmations anyone? What about waiting times at Bkk main airport compared to the ones in Chiangmai or Phuket?Google is your friend: https://www.bangkokpost.com/thailand/general/2372603/visas-extended-to-boost-tourism.

[LittleBigMan]

Rumours around that VOA is offered for 30 days instead of 15 . Confirmations anyone? What about waiting times at Bkk main airport compared to the ones in Chiangmai or Phuket?Meeting was the 19th, 15 day visa now 30 days, 30 days now 45 days BUT, starts October 1st! To end of the year Only!

[Sunlover2]

Meeting was the 19th, 15 day visa now 30 days, 30 days now 45 days BUT, starts October 1st! To end of the year Only!The first sentence of the article says:

"The Centre for Covid-19 Situation Administration (CCSA) has approved longer visas for foreign visitors to the country from Oct 1 until March 31".

Not sure where you got that end of year only bit.

SL.

[Mr Enternational]

The first sentence of the article says:

"The Centre for Covid-19 Situation Administration (CCSA) has approved longer visas for foreign visitors to the country from Oct 1 until March 31".

Not sure where you got that end of year only bit.End of the Thai year!

[Jimmy Boy 99]

Google is your friend: https://www.bangkokpost.com/thailand/general/2372603/visas-extended-to-boost-tourism.Visa on arrival by air has always been 30 days. Arrival by land was 15 days. For US citizens at least. Now it seems that both have been increased by 15 days.

[Crocodilexp]

Arrival by land was 15 days. For US citizens at least.No, by land it has also been 30 days for a few decades, except for a brief interval when they had it at 15, but quickly reverted back.

The 15 days refer to Visa On Arrival, which applies to the Chinese, Indians and a few other nationalities. Not to be confused with the visa-exempt 30 day stamp.

[Jimmy Boy 99]

No, by land it has also been 30 days for a few decades, except for a brief interval when they had it at 15, but quickly reverted back.

The 15 days refer to Visa On Arrival, which applies to the Chinese, Indians and a few other nationalities. Not to be confused with the visa-exempt 30 day stamp.Thanks for the correction.

[Member #4807]

My country is on that list too, so its a 30 day stamp. On previous trips I always bought visa tru our consulate here in Malta, 60 day stay and a fee of 35 euros but local office closed during covid. Presently to obtain a visa one have to send passport and all documents with a courier to the Greek embassy at Athens and all this shit plus a staggering 125 euros fee.


No, by land it has also been 30 days for a few decades, except for a brief interval when they had it at 15, but quickly reverted back.

The 15 days refer to Visa On Arrival, which applies to the Chinese, Indians and a few other nationalities. Not to be confused with the visa-exempt 30 day stamp.

[RacShack]

Visa on arrival by air has always been 30 days. Arrival by land was 15 days. For US citizens at least. Now it seems that both have been increased by 15 days.Wondering if I land in Thailand Sept. 5 and stay until Oct. 9 if my 30 day visa I got when landing, automatic turns into 45 day visa on Oct. 1 , any idea! Or when leaving I have to pay fine per each extra day I stay? Any information will help! Thanks.

[HorseTrader]

There are different requirements depending on your country of citizenship and country of residence, perhaps other factors too. Check the Thai E-Visa website to see what applies in your situation.

https://www.thaievisa.go.th/

As of 12 hours ago, that website does not reflect the expected changes described in recent posts. I have no idea when the changes will be posted in the Royal Gazette.

[ElMexicant]

Wondering if I land in Thailand Sept. 5 and stay until Oct. 9 if my 30 day visa I got when landing, automatic turns into 45 day visa on Oct. 1 , any idea! Or when leaving I have to pay fine per each extra day I stay? Any information will help! Thanks.Arrivals on or after October 1 will get the 45 days. You however can get the E Visa 60 days now or pay 1900 baht to get an extension of an extra 30 days when on the ground.

https://www.thaievisa.go.th/

[Allover]

Wondering if I land in Thailand Sept. 5 and stay until Oct. 9 if my 30 day visa I got when landing, automatic turns into 45 day visa on Oct. 1 , any idea! Or when leaving I have to pay fine per each extra day I stay? Any information will help! Thanks.I sincerely doubt you will be given the extra 15 days unless you get lucky and the immigration officer is not paying attention.

I have been warned not to overstay because immigration will look at you more closely on future trips. I don't know if that is accurate or not. I don't recall anybody here mentioning problems with overstays besides the cost.

The fee to extend is B1900 unless you have a visa agency do it for you. They're charging about B2000-B2500 on top of the government fee of B1900 for a total of about B4000-B4500 to do it for you.

[Banana Boi]

Wondering if I land in Thailand Sept. 5 and stay until Oct. 9 if my 30 day visa I got when landing, automatic turns into 45 day visa on Oct. 1 , any idea! Or when leaving I have to pay fine per each extra day I stay? Any information will help! Thanks.Nope you have to apply for the 45 day Visa before you arrive in Thailand while you are still OUTSIDE of Thailand. Not sure what they mean by this since it has yet to be published. I'm in your boat too with my arrival in Thailand for September. I will delay to October if they change the entry rules to my benefit.

I wouldn't recommend knowingly overstaying and paying a fine. Pretty sure they keep a record of this crap. I'll be living in Bangkok this time around. See you if you're up in BKK.

[Nyezhov]

Nope you have to apply for the 45 day Visa before you arrive in Thailand while you are still OUTSIDE of Thailand. Not sure what they mean by this since it has yet to be published. I'm in your boat too with my arrival in Thailand for September. I will delay to October if they change the entry rules to my benefit.

I wouldn't recommend knowingly overstaying and paying a fine. Pretty sure they keep a record of this crap. I'll be living in Bangkok this time around. See you if you're up in BKK.I'm in your boat, I'm waiting to see what the new visa rules are.

Overstays in Thailand are a total nono, especially if you are traveling back and forth.

[LittleBigMan]

From the Bangkok Thread.

Here is my experience with the above doing research and experimenting years back. I know of know ATM offer by Thailand to give what the International rate that might be posted like Bloomberg.

If for example, Bloomberg has it listed at 36.00 using an ATM, cards like Charlies Schwab, Fidelity, Chased, Wells, etc. Will give you that rate, it is usually lower in the range of 35.40-50, at an exchange booth like in Pattaya T. T. Which general giving the best rate it might be at 35.65-70.

For 10 years I used a number of times the ATM for my living expenses, the majority with Charles Schwab, Credit Union, and Wells, only CS, reimbursed and the other two have large balances majority use Aeon ATMs due to the lower fee of 150, plus a 1% charge on the other end in the USA.

Five years ago I started to use Wise, after researching all other transfer options for larger amounts for major purchases but to make things flow better and faster plan ahead and kept each transfer to 10,000 to my Thai Bank account with Bangkok Bank.

Two years ago I woke up and when it came to using Wise, not sure why it took me so long. With Wise rate offered for example if I saw it on Bloomberg in the morning at 36.00 I log on to Wise and start my transfer that is what I was getting 36,00 with their fee, it was still lower by half by the time I paid the 150 plus the other 1% back home. Normally, I would take a 500 USD withdrawal in baht to not exceed the limit to be safe 15,000 baht, my bank in the USA Would charge me like $4. 90.

Since using Wise monthly and forwarding my pension each month to my Thai Bank Bangkok Bank, with the max rate of exchange being provided by Wise, I'm coming out ahead over 10,000 baht a month compare to using the ATM method. I've had family and friends switch majority was having their S. S. Pension sent to the and. Why. H. Q Bangkok Bank then ACH forward to their Bangkok bank. They all thought they were doing good until I got them on Wise.

There is a bit of a hassle with Wise due to their security measures, you set up your account whenever you log they at times want to send you a numeric code to enter your account make sure it is texted to a phone number you can access at all times. I have a Thai number and a USA I register it with the Thai since I live here the majority of the year. Not sure if you can register your email address?

Last, I regularly use the ACH option, and if you are using it for immigration purposes for one retirement O, each month when they ask you for the reason you scroll down to end " living expenses " when the money arrives in your book it comes over as FTT which satisfies Immigration.

Since reading all this ATM stuff and I wrote this about ATM a few years back and it was a Warning!

There have been times I use a specific card on a Thai ATM, after it charges you 220, the next screen gives you a breakdown of the conversion! This isn't what is offered on the International market THIS IS THE BANK ADDITION CHARGES BY OFFERING A MUCH LOWER RATE! You have a choice of pushing YES OR NO, most think to get the money you must push YES! That isn't the case you can push NO, then you get something closer to the market rate and still get the money you requested!

The majority of the time when I need to use my Charles Schwab or even Wells, the message isn't ever shown it just goes to the market rate. But Monday, I was a bit short on cash to pick up my truck at the dealership so I went next door to the 7/11, but it didn't have a Bangkok Bank ATM, only Siam so I had to use my CS card. After the 220 charge the message of conversion show up to my surprise so after going over the fine print the rate given was 35.75, I said no way that is what I saw on Bloomberg this morning. The catch Siam Commercial got a bit slick IMO, there was a notation of a charge of 5% addition for the conversion that would have lowered the 35.75 ALOT!

So beware, if you don't have a Thai Bank account, a two-week millionaire who doesn't care or have the time to think of such things LBM understands go on with your life. But if you do there above is the information.

[Mr Enternational]

Five years ago I started to use Wise, after researching all other transfer options for larger amounts How long does the transfer usually take?

[Tomasb]

For the past several years since 2016 I have been applying in the US through the Thai consulate for a 60 day visa stay to cover the winter months from Jan to end of Feb. However, I like to stay in Thailand for 90 days taking me to the end of March so I request a 30 day extension via their immigration office, which is located outside of Bangkok. The cost is 1900 bt for the extension and about $45 USD for the 60 day tourist visa. It's a bit of a pain having to travel to the outskirts of Bangkok to apply for the extra time but that's the only option for a 90 day stay (without leaving the country) and returning for 30 days.

I don't see what the big deal about the 45 day Visa on arrival. If you want to stay more time, then you have to make the trek out to their suburban office for 30 more days for 1900 bt but, of course, that gives you two and a half months, not three. Not sure, how Thai authorities view a second request for another 30 days but I have heard in the past they took a dim view of it.

Stickman has suggested in recent columns that they should allow six months VOA but doubt that will ever happen. Their attitude regarding farangs remain the same.

[LittleBigMan]

How long does the transfer usually take?Once your set up account I noticed small amount like 2-3,000 if you do it morning by 4 pm should have it don't do weekends when This banks are closed.

I've in many cases completed the transaction and gotten the money in my account in 20 minutes I though no way? So I went to my bank ATM check it was there. I checked my USA Account they haven't even requested it.

You can track the transaction although not exact but best to plan ahead.

I know a few guys here do it on their phones regularly that get it within minutes not sure how their accounts are set up. Wise have bank accounts and ATM cards I'm not sure how that words.

[EihTooms]

How long does the transfer usually take?I think it depends on which country you are transferring money from and which country you are transferring money to. Or from which bank? Not sure.

Anyway, my experience with Wise is very similar (good) but also a bit different in a couple of smallish details than was posted previously and I suspect that is because I transfer money from a Bank of America account in the USA to my Bangkok Bank account in Thailand.

I will now go into more detail here than most want to know or read about this but some of it might be useful for USA expats living in Thailand on Long Stay visas who make regular money transfers from their USA bank account to their Thailand bank account as I do. So here goes:

See, Wise has funds and procedures set up in each of those particular countries ready to make a deposit happen in Thailand literally within seconds, often not even a full minute. That's because they aren't really pulling money out of the USA account to move it into a Thailand account (as a procedure, I mean. Of course, it is never done literally and physically). Wise already has an account full of funds in Thailand and a secure and reliable withdrawal procedure set up with USA / Bank of America. So all they're doing is making sure I've got the amount stated in my USA account, that they've "written a valid check for it" and then they will just make a simple domestic transfer from one bank in Thailand (theirs) to another bank in Thailand (mine).

It happens as fast as one of our girlfriends gets the 200 baht she pestered us for to top up her phone from our, say, Bangkok Bank account to her, say, Kasikorn Bank account. Really, within a few seconds she has it in her account, right? Same with Wise to us in this example.

And that is also why we might look at our USA Bank of America account mobile app or online banking site and see the money hasn't even been taken out of that account yet. But Wise has "written a valid check for it", they know we are good for the money and they will get it soon enough, usually within 1-2 days. That is the way it works from my USA account to my Thailand account, that is. It might be different from and to other countries or banks.

Another difference is in my experience I must choose "Funds for long stay in Thailand" as the reason for the transfer if I want the record on my Bangkok Bank statements to show the all-important FTT or Foreign Transfer designation in order to satisfy the monthly Foreign Transfer minimum with Immigration and to maintain my retirement visa requirements (for those of us who chose the monthly transfer option vs a large lump sum deposit option for that purpose).

That money must be a genuine Foreign Transfer. And when I choose "Funds for long stay in Thailand" I will not receive the money within seconds. No, in that case Wise is going through a more typical international transfer procedure from one country to another, not a simple domestic transfer within the same country. Consequently, I will receive the money in my Bangkok Bank account the afternoon of the next business day. The important thing being, and Wise understands this, that it will then be considered and properly identified on my Bangkok Bank statement record as a true FTT or Foreign Transfer.

My choosing "General living expenses" or anything else as the reason for the transfer will not do it for me. Yes, I will then get the money in my Thai bank account within seconds vs the afternoon of the next business day. But it will only go on record as a Transfer From One Account To Another. Which is not enough info for Immigration. As far as they know I just pulled it out of one Thai bank account and put it into another Thai bank account. Which, in fact, is exactly what Wise did in order to get it to me within seconds.

But that kind of transfer is not what Immigration is looking for to justify the Long Stay visa ink stamp I want in my passport. They want to see money from outside of Thailand being brought into and spent in Thailand.

[Sunlover2]

I don't see what the big deal about the 45 day Visa on arrival.In my case: the hotel I stay at in Bangkok offers a 10% discount for 15+ day stays, and a 20% discount for 30+ day stays. I used to have to get creative with my entries and departures to achieve the 30 day mark. No longer the case it seems because I would certainly take advantage of the longer stay opportunity.


Stickman has suggested in recent columns that they should allow six months VOA but doubt that will ever happen. Their attitude regarding farangs remain the same.True this.

SL.

[Banana Boi]

How long does the transfer usually take?Just don't do it while the bank you are taking the money from or the bank you are transferring the money to are closed. It could take 2 days over a weekend. Otherwise it will take seconds. May be longer for a new user. I've never transferred more than 50k baht at a time. The fees on Wise are nominal for what you are transferring. The exchange rates are the true rates.

[ElMexicant]

Plan on entering with (60 days tourist visa at BKK + 30 extension) + one day border run to Cambodia for another (45 days visa exemption (Oct 1) + 30 days extension) + another one day border run Cambodia (45 days visa exemption + 30 days extension) = 240 days.

So 240 days total to fuck 300+ different girls. Will Thailand allow this for an 8 month stay? It's only 3 official entry stamps (1 tourist visa + 2 being land border) in one calendar year.

[Vendelo]

Plan on entering with (60 days tourist visa at BKK + 30 extension) + one day border run to Cambodia for another (45 days visa exemption (Oct 1) + 30 days extension) + another one day border run Cambodia (45 days visa exemption + 30 days extension) = 240 days.

So 240 days total to fuck 300+ different girls. Will Thailand allow this for an 8 month stay? It's only 3 official entry stamps (1 tourist visa + 2 being land border) in one calendar year.I am looking forward to reading your 300 reports.

[Allover]

Plan on entering with (60 days tourist visa at BKK + 30 extension) + one day border run to Cambodia for another (45 days visa exemption (Oct 1) + 30 days extension) + another one day border run Cambodia (45 days visa exemption + 30 days extension) = 240 days.

So 240 days total to fuck 300+ different girls. Will Thailand allow this for an 8 month stay? It's only 3 official entry stamps (1 tourist visa + 2 being land border) in one calendar year.Border runs via land crossings may not give you 45 additional days. Flying into BKK from a nearby country.

May be the way to do what you want. Check on how long an entry visa you will get when entering Thailand by land.

[ElMexicant]

Border runs via land crossings may not give you 45 additional days. Flying into BKK from a nearby country.

May be the way to do what you want. Check on how long an entry visa you will get when entering Thailand by land.I am going from this below quote. Visa exemption by land is currently 30 days. But the word is on October 1, all visa exemptions will be changed to 45 days. I didn't read anything that would exclude land crossings.


No, by land it has also been 30 days for a few decades, except for a brief interval when they had it at 15, but quickly reverted back.

The 15 days refer to Visa On Arrival, which applies to the Chinese, Indians and a few other nationalities. Not to be confused with the visa-exempt 30 day stamp.

[Seeko]

Plan on entering with (60 days tourist visa at BKK + 30 extension) + one day border run to Cambodia for another (45 days visa exemption (Oct 1) + 30 days extension) + another one day border run Cambodia (45 days visa exemption + 30 days extension) = 240 days.
...Will Thailand allow this for an 8 month stay? It's only 3 official entry stamps (1 tourist visa + 2 being land border) in one calendar year.Be aware of the little known regulation of maximum 180 days of tourist visa within a rolling 12 months interval. Basically, you can't stay more than 6 months per year with tourist visa, so get other types, such as business, work, investment, education, volunteer, religion, marriage, family, retirement, or elite.

Now, you can try your luck and hope that the inbound Immigration Officers don't examine your entry and exit stamps carefully and calculate the total stays. Nowadays with computerized recording, there may be an internal algorithm for automated flagging. There is a possibility that they may not count the first 60-days, if applied outside of Thailand and paid for, unlike the visa free ones.

On your estimated itinerary, there will be 6 stamps: 1 initial tourist visa, 2 visa exemptions, and 3 extension of stays. By the way, are you counting the costs associated with acquiring the extensions, I. E. Taxi / skytrain to Bangkok Immigration Bureau and 2000 BT fee per extension? (And, yes, self acquisition at Chang Watthana is cheaper and easier with online appointment than visa service agencies and without having to give up your passport to local agents). Before Covid pandemic, I'd just hop around Southeast Asia with standard 30-day visa exemption stamp and not bother with extension of stays. YMMV.

Seeko.

[ElMexicant]

Be aware of the little known regulation of maximum 180 days of tourist visa within a rolling 12 months interval. Basically, you can't stay more than 6 months per year with tourist visa, so get other types, such as business, work, investment, education, volunteer, religion, marriage, family, retirement, or elite.

Now, you can try your luck and hope that the inbound Immigration Officers don't examine your entry and exit stamps carefully and calculate the total stays. Nowadays with computerized recording, there may be an internal algorithm for automated flagging. There is a possibility that they may not count the first 60-days, if applied outside of Thailand and paid for, unlike the visa free ones.

On your estimated itinerary, there will be 6 stamps: 1 initial tourist visa, 2 visa exemptions, and 3 extension of stays. By the way, are you counting the costs associated with acquiring the extensions, I. E. Taxi / skytrain to Bangkok Immigration Bureau and 2000 BT fee per extension? (And, yes, self acquisition at Chang Watthana is cheaper and easier with online appointment than visa service agencies and without having to give up your passport to local agents). Before Covid pandemic, I'd just hop around Southeast Asia with standard 30-day visa exemption stamp and not bother with extension of stays. YMMV..Interesting. But I am going by this. They only mention a limit of 2 land entry per calendar year. By air its unlimited. If using border run agents, those are about 2000-2500 including your visa for Cambodia and your visa exemption entry stamp back into Thailand. Those are done by "greasing" the officers. The 90 days max per 6 months has been thrown out supposedly.

https://www.thaiembassy.com/thailand-visa/thailand-visa-latest-update

[Member #4753]

Be aware of the little known regulation of maximum 180 days of tourist visa within a rolling 12 months interval. Basically, you can't stay more than 6 months per year with tourist visa, so get other types, such as business, work, investment, education, volunteer, religion, marriage, family, retirement, or elite.
There is no official maximum amount of days per year a tourist can stay in Thailand on a tourist visa as stated under the immigration act.

What you refer to above was certain offices like Bangkok and Phuket were denying entry to some people that were staying a lot of time in Thailand on tourist visas. The risk of being denied entry kicked in when someone stayed more that 18 months over a 2 year period.

This was happening from say 2015 to when covid started. Interestingly it was only certain entry points that were doing this. There were zero reports of Chiang Mai denying anyone entry no matter how long they had stayed in Thailand on tourist visas.

When someone was denied entry the passport was stamped "does not have the ability to stay in Thailand". The exact meaning was never explained by Immigration officials however it was often translated 1 of 2 ways 1) The person entering does not have means to stay in thailand 2) The person does not have the appropriate visa to stay in Thailand.

What will happen now is unclear. There are still a number of people that have stayed throughout the pandemic on covid extensions. They entered on a tourist visa and just kept extending it for years. Covid extensions are schedulaed to end in the next few months.

It should also be noted that many people confuse Tourist Visas with Visas on Arrivals and Visa Exemptions on arrivals. They are all different and affect how and how long you can ultimately stay in Thailand.

[Member #4753]

Be aware of the little known regulation of maximum 180 days of tourist visa within a rolling 12 months interval. Basically, you can't stay more than 6 months per year with tourist visa, so get other types, such as business, work, investment, education, volunteer, religion, marriage, family, retirement, or elite.
This is factually incorrect. It is not stated anywhere within the Immigration Act.

[Mr Enternational]

Be aware of the little known regulation of maximum 180 days of tourist visa within a rolling 12 months interval. Basically, you can't stay more than 6 months per year with tourist visa, Very little known since folks were staying in Thailand for years on tourist visas and making visa runs every so often. So widely done that they even built businesses around the visa runs.

[Crocodilexp]

Be aware of the little known regulation of maximum 180 days of tourist visa within a rolling 12 months interval.No such regulation. It's not little-known, but non-existent.

Some people online have hypothesized about this being a guideline. However, there is no such law, rule or advisory guideline for immigration officers. You might have a problem at 4 months, or you might not have it at 8 months. There's no clear rule.

All we know is that with too many tourist visas (or visa-free entries), you'll eventually be denied entry.

Educated guesses as to roughly what the cutoff is can be useful, but stating that it's an actual rule is misleading and harmful.

[ThaiGoodTimes]

Very little known since folks were staying in Thailand for years on tourist visas and making visa runs every so often. So widely done that they even built businesses around the visa runs.The Visa Run businesses were mainly setup for those working in Thailand on one year Non-be visas for smaller capital companies.

On those visas they had to leave country every 90 days and get stamped back in.

Think of chefs, scuba diving instructors, other small businesses (budget hotels) that set up their own low capital shelf companies with accountants.

[BackStreetBozo]

I am coming down to Bkk for the first time. Would be coming in with my elderly parents who want to tour the islands and I would be spending some time in BKK for about 4-5 days. Total trip duration is 20+ days. Would appreciate a little help in knowing about the currency exchange process. Also what places would be good to visit during this time, especially for healthy elderly parents who are pretty fit and love sight seeing. Also me and my brother both in 40's would like to spend some time during nights visiting bars and having fun in general. Any pointers for first time travelers would be appreciated. Thanks.

[CaliGuy33]

I am coming down to Bkk for the first time. Would be coming in with my elderly parents who want to tour the islands and I would be spending some time in BKK for about 4-5 days. Total trip duration is 20+ days. Would appreciate a little help in knowing about the currency exchange process. Also what places would be good to visit during this time, especially for healthy elderly parents who are pretty fit and love sight seeing. Also me and my brother both in 40's would like to spend some time during nights visiting bars and having fun in general. Any pointers for first time travelers would be appreciated. Thanks.Sounds like you want others to plan your trip for you. Perhaps you should hire a[Deleted by Admin] travel agent.

EDITOR'S NOTE: This report was deleted because it contributed nothing of value and in fact constituted a complete waste of bandwidth.

The purpose of this Forum is to provide for the exchange if information between men on the subject of finding women for sex. Let's stick to the subject.

[Banana Boi]

me and my brother both in 40's would like to spend some time during nights visiting bars and having fun in general. Any pointers I can't answer any of your first questions since I have not done any tourist activities in Bangkok other than night markets and shopping malls. This may not be the best forum to ask for that stuff anyways since this is a sex board. Many travel boards out there for these answers.

As for night life it all depends on your budget but you can use the search function in the Bangkok Reports thread for Soi Cowboy, Nana Plaza, Patpong, Thermae, Thaniya Road, and review the massage threads. Your stay is very short so no need to look further than this.

[Breadman]

I met a guy who started his own business along with a buddy. Buddy did all of the paperwork, they rented an office and bought office equipment and will hire the needed amount of Thais to work in their company. That does absolutely nothing except give them a visa to live in Thailand. He said it was cheaper than the golden visas in the long run.

[PedroMorales]

You don't say from where you are comin g down.

1. Currency: easy to change at airport and booths all over the place, best done in modest enough amounts for safety.

2. Location: Probably Sukhumvit given your parents' age. Good shopping in the malls of European and Japanese brands.

3. Bangkok has places like the great temple etc, easy to get to by taxi, which is better than public transport with aged parents. Trips to eg the river Kwai (boring) easy to get with travel agents all over the place and brochures at hotel front desks etc (+ commission).

4. Massages: Check with front desk you are not sending your mother for a rub and tug.

5. Check out this new thing called the Internet https://www.bing.com/search?q=bangkok+best+attracrtions&cvid=06 ba35 a0 a4 dd45848 e0 b8 a0694 c5 a0 ce&aqs=edge. 69 i57.5615 j0 j1&pglt=43&FORM=ANSPA1&PC=U531.

6. Basics are land, immigration, get to hotel, have a plan.


I am coming down to Bkk for the first time. Would be coming in with my elderly parents who want to tour the islands and I would be spending some time in BKK for about 4-5 days. Total trip duration is 20+ days. Would appreciate a little help in knowing about the currency exchange process. Also what places would be good to visit during this time, especially for healthy elderly parents who are pretty fit and love sight seeing. Also me and my brother both in 40's would like to spend some time during nights visiting bars and having fun in general. Any pointers for first time travelers would be appreciated. Thanks.

[Banana Boi]

Is the 45 day Visa Exemption (up from 30 days) official yet?

[HorseTrader]

Is the 45 day Visa Exemption (up from 30 days) official yet?I have the same question. The only thing I can add is that as of 10 hours ago the Thailand E-Visa webpage still says a visa is required for stays longer that 30 days.

My flight schedule has me in Thailand for 44 days. I’ll likely get the E-Visa because that extends me to 60 days, just in case I decide to stay longer. In February the E-Visa cost 40 USD. The February E-Visa headache was the requirement for detailed travel information that was not required for pre-COVID visas. My travel plans are to travel wherever I want at that moment, no fixed plans.

One thing I want to add is how Thailand counts days. They do not count 24-hour days, they count calendar days. For example, if you arrive at 23:00 on Thursday and depart at 01:00 on Friday, Thailand counts those 2 hours as 2 days.

[Zelensky]

I have the same question. The only thing I can add is that as of 10 hours ago the Thailand E-Visa webpage still says a visa is required for stays longer that 30 days.

My flight schedule has me in Thailand for 44 days. Ill likely get the E-Visa because that extends me to 60 days, just in case I decide to stay longer. In February the E-Visa cost 40 USD. The February E-Visa headache was the requirement for detailed travel information that was not required for pre-COVID visas. My travel plans are to travel wherever I want at that moment, no fixed plans.

One thing I want to add is how Thailand counts days. They do not count 24-hour days, they count calendar days. For example, if you arrive at 23:00 on Thursday and depart at 01:00 on Friday, Thailand counts those 2 hours as 2 days.As far as I know, the 45-day exemption comes into effect on October 1. I would assume that if you enter Thailand before that date it may not take effect (I could be wrong though). If you land on October 1st or later, you are good for 45 days though.

[Bunky]

One thing I want to add is how Thailand counts days. They do not count 24-hour days, they count calendar days. For example, if you arrive at 23:00 on Thursday and depart at 01:00 on Friday, Thailand counts those 2 hours as 2 days.Another way to think of it is that the day you land counts as day ONE, not day ZERO. Even if you don't get through immigration until 11:45 pm, that still counts as day ONE.

This caught me out once and I went one day over the 30 days allowed for visa-exempt visitors. I hired one of those "premium services" to "escort" me through immigration. I also paid for a "porter" to handle my luggage. When I reached immigration my guide (who was an attractive young woman in a sharp uniform) explained to the agent that I had miscounted the days. I stood off to the side looking chagrined with my head down. After about 90 seconds, the agent said go ahead. No fine. No fuss. I noticed that under the exit stamp in my passport he'd handwritten my outgoing flight information.

You can use this to your advantage by carefully scheduling your flights. I like to arrive around dawn, which means my first day is about 18 hours long. On my way home I schedule a flight for just after midnight on the THIRTY-FIRST day. So long as I clear outbound immigration before midnight, they don't care that it's another two or three hours before my flight actually takes off.

QUESTION FOR THE EXPERTS: Suppose my flight touches down at 9:00 p.m. Is it possible to delay going to immigration until just after midnight, thereby "gaining" a day? If so, what's a good place to kill time? Or are the authorities wise to this and therefore on the lookout for people hanging around the arrival gates?

[Mr Enternational]

Suppose my flight touches down at 9:00 p.m. Is it possible to delay going to immigration until just after midnight, thereby "gaining" a day? If so, what's a good place to kill time? Or are the authorities wise to this and therefore on the lookout for people hanging around the arrival gates?Why not just go to immigration and get an extension instead of purposely wasting 3 hours of your life doing nothing in order to gain a few extra hours? Is there a reason you are timing your trips for exactly the given 30 days?

[Sunlover2]

Another way to think of it is that the day you land counts as day ONE, not day ZERO. Even if you don't get through immigration until 11:45 pm, that still counts as day ONE.

QUESTION FOR THE EXPERTS: Suppose my flight touches down at 9:00 p.m. Is it possible to delay going to immigration until just after midnight, thereby "gaining" a day? If so, what's a good place to kill time? Or are the authorities wise to this and therefore on the lookout for people hanging around the arrival gates?I touched on this subject last week:


In my case: the hotel I stay at in Bangkok offers a 10% discount for 15+ day stays, and a 20% discount for 30+ day stays. I used to have to get creative with my entries and departures to achieve the 30 day mark. No longer the case it seems because I would certainly take advantage of the longer stay opportunity.
SL.IMO it depends on how much of a stickler the immigration officer is. On the immigration form you had to fill out and present upon arrival at BKK one of the fields was 'Vessel Number' and I assume they have your flight information in their system already. Being TIT the only consistency is inconsistency. I avoided the issue by booking a flight with a scheduled arrival after midnight.

To my knowledge there is really no place to hang out on the arrivals level now that the smoking rooms are closed (LOL) but you *might* be able to talk your way to the departure level under the guise of visiting an airline club to freshen up. I have read pre-CoVid reports of passengers traveling on premium tickets being able to accomplish that. Works best with carry-on bags though, because if you don't collect your checked luggage timely there is additional potential for mayhem.

But at that point you are stringing 'maybe's' together so realistically it makes the most sense to plan to arrive after midnight if possible.

SL.

[Bunky]

Thanks to Mr. Sunlover for his helpful analysis. I had not considered the checked baggage issue he spotted, and I agree with him that letting your bags go unchecked for several hours is asking for trouble. The airlines are supposed to collect unclaimed bags and store them. But you never know if they'll be diligent about that -- especially when they are so short of staff. It also seems to me that having an unclaimed bag going round and round on the carousel all by itself would tempt the larcenous. I also think Mr. Sunlover is wise to speculate that when you present yourself to the immigration officer he probably knows what flight you were on, and if you've delayed submitting for inspection he might get suspicious.

So thanks again to Mr. Sunlover for weighing in. I really appreciate it.

Bunky

[Explorer8939]

This is a new one for me: an older bargirl brought her son to Pattaya to take him to her favorite bars. So, he could hook up with a bargirl and make some money. Presumably his mom knows which bargirls have big money and long for a young Thai man.

[Crocodilexp]

QUESTION FOR THE EXPERTS: Suppose my flight touches down at 9:00 p.m. Is it possible to delay going to immigration until just after midnight, thereby "gaining" a day? If so, what's a good place to kill time? Or are the authorities wise to this and therefore on the lookout for people hanging around the arrival gates?In theory, that would probably work, if you can waste so much time in arrivals.

Note that arrivals are basically a long funnel towards immigration. No shops, no ATMs, nothing, just a long corridor and occasional toilets. You might indeed draw some attention and be questioned.

[Downandup]

Why not just go to immigration and get an extension instead of purposely wasting 3 hours of your life doing nothing in order to gain a few extra hours? Is there a reason you are timing your trips for exactly the given 30 days?This might help:

Starting October 1, 2022, Thailand CCSA has announced that the Visa Exemption stay period will be extended from 30 days to 45 days. This change is currently in effect until 31st March 2023. https://www.nationthailand.com/in-focus/national/40019124.

[Explorer8939]

I have arrived at BKK at 23.30 and walked very slowly to Immigration to get stamped in after midnight.

But, you don't want to leave your suitcase on the carousel very long.

[HorseTrader]

This might help:

Starting October 1, 2022, Thailand CCSA has announced that the Visa Exemption stay period will be extended from 30 days to 45 days. This change is currently in effect until 31st March 2023. https://www.nationthailand.com/in-focus/national/40019124.That link was published on August 22, it was just a proposal and nothing official: "The move proposed by the Tourism and Sports Ministry aims to. ".

Until it is official, those of us who want to stay in LOS longer then the standard 15 or 30 days should be prepared to get an E-Visa prior to travel.

[Lanthano]

Hi all, heading off to LOS for the first time in 3 years next month. Just booked.

I am thinking of getting out of Pattaya for a few days to a week, to go to Issan somewhere.

For a mix of mongering nightlife and just in general, which city is worth going to?

Khon Khaen? Surat Thani? Or somewhere else?

[Ben Birdwell]

Hi all, heading off to LOS for the first time in 3 years next month. Just booked.

I am thinking of getting out of Pattaya for a few days to a week, to go to Issan somewhere.

For a mix of mongering nightlife and just in general, which city is worth going to?

Khon Khaen? Surat Thani? Or somewhere else?I'm going to piggy back onto your post. I'll be headed there in a month and wanted to check out something new. Done bkk, patts, Phuket, chiang Mai, koh samet and koh samui. Anything else that is interesting that I should hit up?

[Downandup]

That link was published on August 22, it was just a proposal and nothing official: "The move proposed by the Tourism and Sports Ministry aims to. ".

Until it is official, those of us who want to stay in LOS longer then the standard 15 or 30 days should be prepared to get an E-Visa prior to travel.That link is one of many. You have to wait until the change is published in the Royal Gazette and that often seems to happen only a few days before it becomes effective which also means that it could not happen.

[Explorer8939]

Observations about Thai ladies:

Ladies over 30 will go to the toilet in front of me. I don't know why.

Ladies over 30 will walk around the room naked. Not so much for ladies over 40.

Most ladies want you to cum as soon as possible. Likewise, most ladies will try to get you to cum without intercourse. The big win is if you cum while they are putting on the condom, they will tell their friends about that.

If a lady taps you repeatedly, that means she doesn't want to fuck. Don't ask me why.

Many ladies have digestive problems. When they wake up in the morning, they go back and forth to the toilet for the first few hours.

Ladies generally have more customers and money than they will admit. I have seen ladies complain on Facebook about not being laid for a long time, an hour after going with me. Likewise, I have had ladies plead poverty just before going home to their village, and then staying in their village for several weeks.

A new scam: the "send me 100 baht" message. A lady will accumulate a few thousand Facebook friends, and then send them all the same message asking for 100 baht. Anyone who responds gets put on the "send me 500 baht" list.

Ladies don't know how to replace toilet paper on the roll. Never seen one do it.

[Vendelo]

Observations about Thai ladies:

Ladies over 30 will go to the toilet in front of me. I don't know why.

I love this about Thai girls. I also love hearing/seeing them wash themselves with the hose thing. Even mid20s girls will piss in front of me. We should all embrace this!

Ladies over 30 will walk around the room naked. Not so much for ladies over 40.

I’ve never and never will be with a lady over 40 ;-)

Most ladies want you to cum as soon as possible.

I’ve had a few like this. Really pisses me off which inspires me to jackhammer them for another hour.

Likewise, most ladies will try to get you to cum without intercourse. The big win is if you cum while they are putting on the condom, they will tell their friends about that..Please see my responses in BOLD above.

[Banana Boi]

With the 45 day Visa Exemption finally official what exactly is the process? I have never entered Thailand with no Visa in hand before.

What do I need to show?

Passport.
Hotel accommodation for 1 night sufficient?
Flight out of Thailand within 45 days.

Anything else?

[MgLuulay]

Observations about Thai ladies:

Ladies don't know how to replace toilet paper on the roll. Never seen one do it.Are you watching when the ladies are doing their business? Or else are you a toilet expert? LOL.

[Downandup]

With the 45 day Visa Exemption finally official what exactly is the process? I have never entered Thailand with no Visa in hand before.

What do I need to show?

Passport.
Hotel accommodation for 1 night sufficient?
Flight out of Thailand within 45 days.

Anything else?I think that's it. Basically it's the same as it used to be before covid, I expect that on arrival one of those entry cards will need to be filled out with those details.

[Houston Player]

With the 45 day Visa Exemption finally official what exactly is the process? I have never entered Thailand with no Visa in hand before.

What do I need to show?

Passport.
Hotel accommodation for 1 night sufficient?
Flight out of Thailand within 45 days.

Anything else?


I think that's it. Basically it's the same as it used to be before covid, I expect that on arrival one of those entry cards will need to be filled out with those details.All you need is your passport and your boarding pass. Nothing to fill out. Less information required than pre-Covid.

[BionicMan]

With the 45 day Visa Exemption finally official what exactly is the process? I have never entered Thailand with no Visa in hand before.

What do I need to show?

Passport.
Hotel accommodationist vacc for 1 night sufficient?
Flight out of Thailand within 45 days.

Anything else?Same as before but the stamp in your passport will be valid 45 days. No need of hotel booking.

Covid vaccination certificate at departure check in.

They might ask you where you go in Thailand and how long you stay. Mere formality.

No more immigration card / form to be filled.

[Explorer8939]

I am on travel for 10 days away from Thailand, and I get requests from ladies on Messenger to chat. You never want to talk to ladies on social media unless it's about logistics (what time you will meet, should they bring a friend, etc). Thai ladies will talk about nothing for a few minutes, and then switch to talking about their poverty. Their mother is sick, their moto is broken, you know the drill.

I try to cut them off as quickly as possible.

[Mr Enternational]

You never want to talk to ladies on social media unless it's about logistics (what time you will meet, should they bring a friend, etc). Thai ladies will talk about nothing for a few minutes, and then switch to talking about their poverty. Their mother is sick, their moto is broken, you know the drill.I must be doing something right. I never get chicks trying to tell me their problems. All they want from me is to know when I am coming.

[Explorer8939]

I must be doing something right. I never get chicks trying to tell me their problems. All they want from me is to know when I am coming.If you just talk with them about logistics, you are okay. It's when they want to engage in idle chat that they maneuver towards poverty stories. I had a lady for an all nighter a couple of weeks ago who gave me plenty of poverty stories. The next day, she went home to her village for two weeks, ie had no earnings for 2 weeks, no problem.

I suspect that there are a lot more loons out there sending cash to ladies than I know about.

[GrapeMan]

I am on travel for 10 days away from Thailand, and I get requests from ladies on Messenger to chat. You never want to talk to ladies on social media unless it's about logistics (what time you will meet, should they bring a friend, etc). Thai ladies will talk about nothing for a few minutes, and then switch to talking about their poverty. Their mother is sick, their moto is broken, you know the drill.

I try to cut them off as quickly as possible.Yeah 100%. Just end it. I still think its rough that guys get sucked into the thai working girls acting like they care and want to talk to the farang and don't just see them as a mark to get their money. Heads up guys, she doesn't care about you she wants your money and an AC room for the night.

[Banana Boi]

Thai GF. My rule of thumb is if she's not living with you permanently she isn't your GF.

[Explorer8939]

Thai GF. My rule of thumb is if she's not living with you permanently she isn't your GF.If you are giving her money, she's not your GF.

She gives her money to her boyfriend.

[HorseTrader]

Heads up guys, she doesn't care about you she wants your money and an AC room for the night.This is probably why about 50% of my late night ST girls want to turn the session into LT without mention of extra money. I've seen a couple of bar girls' rooms in Samui, they were real shit holes with just blankets and pillows on the floor for sleeping. Staying LT offers AC, nice bed, nice bathroom, toiletries, shower, and breakfast.

[Lcale1982]

Been checking prices to bkk for last few weeks and prices just keeps slowly going up. Should I just buy tix now? Not likely price coming back down? About 1400 for me ATM.

[AggieDad1]

Been checking prices to bkk for last few weeks and prices just keeps slowly going up. Should I just buy tix now? Not likely price coming back down? About 1400 for me ATM.Murphy"s Law #6. If you buy your tickets now the price will drop tomorrow, if you wait the price will continue to increase. My advice would be to buy tickets that are fully refundable and if the ticket price drops you can get a refund and rebuy at the lower price. Second option is buy your ticket and never ever look at the price of tickets again, until you are ready to make your next trip.

[MartinFlevo]

Been checking prices to bkk for last few weeks and prices just keeps slowly going up. Should I just buy tix now? Not likely price coming back down? About 1400 for me ATM.Best is to check on kiwi.com with flexible DATES. It can save you a lof of money if you fly a day earlier and / or leave a day later / sooner. Flexibility is key these days.

[Explorer8939]

Yeah 100%. Just end it. I still think its rough that guys get sucked into the thai working girls acting like they care and want to talk to the farang and don't just see them as a mark to get their money. Heads up guys, she doesn't care about you she wants your money and an AC room for the night.A Thai lady just reminded me that not all extended conversations on social media end up with poverty stories.

Her third sentence was about her sick mother.

[Explorer8939]

Nobody has commented that the Thai baht has dropped below 37 to the dollar.

That means that a standard Short Time is going to set you back $26.

[Lcale1982]

Does fiwfan not have a selection for Pattaya? I used the chrome translation but don't see a province selection for Pattaya. Thanks.

[Mogwai]

Nobody has commented that the Thai baht has dropped below 37 to the dollar.
That means that a standard Short Time is going to set you back $26.That is still much better than it was in 2019, right before Covid. The Baht was 33 to the euro back then. Don't know what is was to the dollar, but it was much lower than 37.

[Explorer8939]

That is still much better than it was in 2019, right before Covid. The Baht was 33 to the euro back then. Don't know what is was to the dollar, but it was much lower than 37.The baht dropped below 30 to the dollar just before Covid. That was painful.

[ThePike]

Does fiwfan not have a selection for Pattaya? I used the chrome translation but don't see a province selection for Pattaya. Thanks.You have to put Chomburi and come out some girls from Pattaya.

[KyCuriosity]

Just curious, but I have another "conference" coming up next year but now I'm relatively newly wed. (no judgements on this posts please). So here is my question:

Does anyone have experience using a VPN to mask location? I have NordVPN on my phone and I think I could log into a US server, but would it show my location as the city of the server? Does anyone here have experience "going on a business trip" but actually skipping over to Thailand for a week or so? Are you successful at concealing your location or any serious questions?

I already have pictures at a local conference event planned right before my trip that I will use as "cover" for me. I'm just going to pack the same clothes that I have in the pictures I will take. I've done similar before but never overseas.

Does anyone have luck with it? Or is there a high level senior member that hears about guys trying it all the time and always failing?

I have android, my wife has iphone so I don't have to worry about the iphone location sharing stuff. I don't use snapchat or instagram. We mostly use facebook messenger to talk because that's what we used when we were dating, but if she "insists" I use some location so she can just see where I am, I don't want to outright refuse. Just trying to cover all the bases I can.

[Follower]

PM me if you want to join in.

[Mackapaka]

Just curious, but I have another "conference" coming up next year but now I'm relatively newly wed. (no judgements on this posts please). So here is my question:

Does anyone have experience using a VPN to mask location? I have NordVPN on my phone and I think I could log into a US server, but would it show my location as the city of the server? Does anyone here have experience "going on a business trip" but actually skipping over to Thailand for a week or so? Are you successful at concealing your location or any serious questions?
There is already a high level of thought gone in to this judging from the above. If you google how to fake / spoof your GPS location you will find various apps that can help trick your phone. I have used some to change my location when using skout / Tinder. I'd do some research download one or two and try a few dummy runs before you leave home. When abroad I'd leave my 'Normal' phone in the safe in the hotel with spoof GPS and buy a cheap burner and sim for all local comms.

Also don't forget to use android / google settings to turn off location access for absolutely everything (or completely) except the apps you choose.

[Jayagopal50]

There is already a high level of thought gone in to this judging from the above. If you google how to fake / spoof your GPS location you will find various apps that can help trick your phone. I have used some to change my location when using skout / Tinder. I'd do some research download one or two and try a few dummy runs before you leave home. When abroad I'd leave my 'Normal' phone in the safe in the hotel with spoof GPS and buy a cheap burner and sim for all local comms.

Also don't forget to use android / google settings to turn off location access for absolutely everything (or completely) except the apps you choose.Interested in your approach. I am going for a REAL CONFERENCE in March 2023 at BKK. I want to use my I phone 13 for reaching out to escorts / freelancers and sideline girls. I am there for 5 days. Do I need a another phone for 5 days OR can I put a second SIM in I-Phone 13?. Thanks.

[AggieDad1]

Never used Thai Friendly but I know others on here have. A couple of weeks ago I was sitting in a bar in Hua Hin and was talking to a lady who uses Thai Friendly. It was hilarious as she showed me on her phone some of the profiles guys put up, and then told stories of some of the losers she has had dealings with. She is not a freelancer but is looking for a sugar daddy.

[Mogwai]

Interested in your approach. I am going for a REAL CONFERENCE in March 2023 at BKK. I want to use my I phone 13 for reaching out to escorts / freelancers and sideline girls. I am there for 5 days. Do I need a another phone for 5 days OR can I put a second SIM in I-Phone 13?. Thanks.I always use a second local SIM when I'm in Thailand. No problem at all. I have an Android phone, but I don't think that makes any difference.

[Issaquah]

Interested in your approach. I am going for a REAL CONFERENCE in March 2023 at BKK. I want to use my I phone 13 for reaching out to escorts / freelancers and sideline girls. I am there for 5 days. Do I need a another phone for 5 days OR can I put a second SIM in I-Phone 13?. Thanks.Your iPhone 13 has one eSIM and one slot for a Physical SIM. If your current line isn't on your eSIM have it switched by your provider before you go then once you arrive in Thailand you can buy a local SIM for the physical slot and have both lines active at once, switching out the physical SIM when in different countries, etc.

[XXL]

Full lunar eclipse in Thailand.

[Banana Boi]

Pattaya.

Bolt. This has been my main source of transportation since I have arrived to Thailand. A short ride from say LK Metro to Kinnaree will run 50-60 baht. A longer run from Terminal 21 to Jomtien will cost 80-100 baht, depending on the negligible price surge. Average wait time is around 1-6 minutes. Add a few minutes to your wait time from what you see in the Bolt app. Lots of drivers haven't seemed to figure out what the blue location dot on their map means. If you hire a cheaper male driver almost always expect a call from a male driver who does not speak English trying to get you to walk somewhere so he doesn't have to drive as far to get to you. That is one of the reasons I usually always try getting the more expensive lady drivers. If nothing else they speak English. Do expect the lady drivers to have much smaller cars though so don't request one if you have luggage. Men usually drive Hilux and Fortuner so just request Economy and not Comfort or Luxury and you will likely get to sit in a truck. If your luck is bad you will get a normal taxi with a low class taxi driver! Comfort and Luxury are around double the price. Bolt is the way to go in Pattaya especially if you don't want to arrive at a club sticky and sweaty.

Grab. I gave up using Grab after the first few days. Not once was a normal Grab Car even cheaper than a Luxury Bolt vehicle. If I am doing something wrong with Grab let me know.

Regular taxi. So happy I didn't have to deal with these idiots this trip.

Baht bus. Took a handful of times usually along Soi Buakhao heading to Walking Street or Central. The majority of men do not wear masks and yes there are a ton of people coughing these days in Pattaya, including myself. Most women continue wearing masks. Still great value at only 10 baht but there are places like Kinnaree or some of the outer G clubs where it makes no sense to take a baht bus over a Bolt these days.

Bangkok. Only spent 5 days here over the past 4+ weeks so my experience is limited.

Bolt. Either there is extremely high demand or very few Bolt drivers in the BKK Sukhumvit area. Wait time is usually 10 minutes to infinity. Prices the same as Pattaya. In order to take Bolt I always paid double for the Luxury or Comfort vehicles rather than wait.

Grab. See Pattaya above. Limited availability like Bolt too.

Regular taxis. Tried 3 times when we couldn't find a Bolt. Not once would a taxi turn on their meter. Wasn't there a recent law saying drivers would be penalized harshly for not using meters?

BTS / MRT. This really is the way to get around BKK. Most things are within walking distance or a short Bolt ride from BTS.

Tuk tuk. Since I had a visitor with me in BKK she wanted to use a tuk tuk. For fun I would let her try negotiating a price. She was always quoted 200 baht no matter how short the travel distance was. I would grab her and start walking away. Then I would hear the driver yelling 150. As we kept walking we heard a 100. Normally I would still negotiate more but she wanted to shoot YouTube videos of her riding in a tuk tuk we agreed to 100. Apologies for overpaying guys.

All in all Bolt is a Godsend. Finally Thailand has a very cheap means of comfortable transportation like Grab in other SEA countries.

Hope that is helpful for those coming to Thailand over the next couple of months.

[ThaiGoodTimes]

Pattaya.

Bolt. This has been my main source of transportation since I have arrived to Thailand. A short ride from say LK Metro to Kinnaree will run 50-60 baht. A longer run from Terminal 21 to Jomtien will cost 80-100 baht, depending on the negligible price surge. Average wait time is around 1-6 minutes. Add a few minutes to your wait time from what you see in the Bolt app. Lots of drivers haven't seemed to figure out what the blue location dot on their map means. If you hire a cheaper male driver almost always expect a call from a male driver who does not speak English trying to get you to walk somewhere so he doesn't have to drive as far to get to you. That is one of the reasons I usually always try getting the more expensive lady drivers. If nothing else they speak English. Do expect the lady drivers to have much smaller cars though so don't request one if you have luggage. Men usually drive Hilux and Fortuner so just request Economy and not Comfort or Luxury and you will likely get to sit in a truck. If your luck is bad you will get a normal taxi with a low class taxi driver! Comfort and Luxury are around double the price. Bolt is the way to go in Pattaya especially if you don't want to arrive at a club sticky and sweaty.

Grab. I gave up using Grab after the first few days. Not once was a normal Grab Car even cheaper than a Luxury Bolt vehicle. If I am doing something wrong with Grab let me know..InDriver app is the best to use in Phuket.

It also says InDriver is available in Pattaya and Bangkok.

But I've never tried it there.

[CaliGuy33]

Pattaya.

Bolt. This has been my main source of transportation since I have arrived to Thailand. A short ride from say LK Metro to Kinnaree will run 50-60 baht. A longer run from Terminal 21 to Jomtien will cost 80-100 baht, depending on the negligible price surge. Average wait time is around 1-6 minutes. Add a few minutes to your wait time from what you see in the Bolt app. Lots of drivers haven't seemed to figure out what the blue location dot on their map means. If you hire a cheaper male driver almost always expect a call from a male driver who does not speak English trying to get you to walk somewhere so he doesn't have to drive as far to get to you. That is one of the reasons I usually always try getting the more expensive lady drivers. If nothing else they speak English. Do expect the lady drivers to have much smaller cars though so don't request one if you have luggage. Men usually drive Hilux and Fortuner so just request Economy and not Comfort or Luxury and you will likely get to sit in a truck. If your luck is bad you will get a normal taxi with a low class taxi driver! Comfort and Luxury are around double the price. Bolt is the way to go in Pattaya especially if you don't want to arrive at a club sticky and sweaty.

Grab. I gave up using Grab after the first few days. Not once was a normal Grab Car even cheaper than a Luxury Bolt vehicle. If I am doing something wrong with Grab let me know...Bolt is awesome, especially in Pattaya, so convenient with rides always available on a dime.

Baht bus is of course the best value and fun as well.

[Banana Boi]

Bangkok also has MuvMi but I gave up trying pretty quickly when I couldn't figure out how to get from one zone to another. It may work for a short ride from Cowboy to NEP though assuming they are in the same MuvMi zone.

[TheNileRiva]

Pattaya.

Grab. I gave up using Grab after the first few days. Not once was a normal Grab Car even cheaper than a Luxury Bolt vehicle. If I am doing something wrong with Grab let me know.

Have you linked a credit card with Grab pay? I have noticed that a friend of mine has difficulty hailing Grab's whilst I can get one within a miniute even when standing right next to him. The only difference is that I've been able to link a credit card and he hasn't.

A lot of the times, drivers don't keep enough cash / change on them, so they might have the option to filter out rides paying in cash.

[Banana Boi]

Only cash for me with Grab in Thailand. Bolt too. I figured this was a Thai thing since Thailand is really still a cash society once you leave the shopping malls.

[KyCuriosity]

There is already a high level of thought gone in to this judging from the above. If you google how to fake / spoof your GPS location you will find various apps that can help trick your phone. I have used some to change my location when using skout / Tinder. I'd do some research download one or two and try a few dummy runs before you leave home. When abroad I'd leave my 'Normal' phone in the safe in the hotel with spoof GPS and buy a cheap burner and sim for all local comms.

Also don't forget to use android / google settings to turn off location access for absolutely everything (or completely) except the apps you choose.I did download an app literally called "Fake GPS". It was the most popular in the app store with highest ratings. I have been playing around with it. I set it to Pattaya and I searched near by me. It showed me all the people using telegram in pattaya close to my pin drop. It's an easy app to use, but not sure if it's good for snapchat or other apps yet.

Thanks for reaffirming the GPS thing for me. Fairly easy to use so far.

[Explorer8939]

Have you linked a credit card with Grab pay? I have noticed that a friend of mine has difficulty hailing Grab's whilst I can get one within a miniute even when standing right next to him. The only difference is that I've been able to link a credit card and he hasn't.

A lot of the times, drivers don't keep enough cash / change on them, so they might have the option to filter out rides paying in cash.They can all accept payment with a QR code, if your banking app supports payment via QR code.

[GrapeMan]

The issue of Bolt vs Grab is that Bolt rides can take much longer to arrive and be less reliable to actually show up. You'll get canceled on a Bolt a lot or it will take 20 minutes to arrive, but it will often be half or 2/3's the price of a Grab. Grab is much faster and more reliable, you pay for the premium of reliability and time. In BKK a meter taxi going locally will be roughly the same price as a Bolt, assuming a taxi will take you on a meter.

Bolt you also can pay cash or card, Grab is credit card, although I don't really care either way, but some people may.

[Houston Player]

The issue of Bolt vs Grab is that Bolt rides can take much longer to arrive and be less reliable to actually show up. You'll get canceled on a Bolt a lot or it will take 20 minutes to arrive, but it will often be half or 2/3's the price of a Grab. Grab is much faster and more reliable, you pay for the premium of reliability and time. In BKK a meter taxi going locally will be roughly the same price as a Bolt, assuming a taxi will take you on a meter.

Bolt you also can pay cash or card, Grab is credit card, although I don't really care either way, but some people may.This information is valid for Bangkok but totally inaccurate for Pattaya. Since this is a general Thailand thread I think it's important to point out the difference. Bolt is much better and cheaper in Pattaya than Grab but as you stated Grab is much better in Bangkok than Bolt because of the reasons you stated.

[PublicInterest]

Hi gang,

As far as I can tell, Thailand only allows bringing in 30 days worth of prescription medication (in my case, I'm talking about diabetes & heart medicine).

I was hoping to take advantage of the fact that they're handing out 45-day visas now (and this trip I'the part of a longer tour through Asia, so I'm planning on having 60-90 day supply).

I've been doing some research on the subject and I've written to the Embassy asking for guidance, but considering the average age of a lot of travelers to Thailand, I figured that my situation cannot be that unique and was hoping that others would share their experiences with this issue.

I plan on speaking to my doctor next week about providing me a letter that summarizes my ailments and medication list. Any other steps that you all recommend?

Thanks and best regards.

[Mr Enternational]

As far as I can tell, Thailand only allows bringing in 30 days worth of prescription medication (in my case, I'm talking about diabetes & heart medicine).

I was hoping to take advantage of the fact that they're handing out 45-day visas now (and this trip I'the part of a longer tour through Asia, so I'm planning on having 60-90 day supply).

I've been doing some research on the subject and I've written to the Embassy asking for guidance, but considering the average age of a lot of travelers to Thailand, I figured that my situation cannot be that unique and was hoping that others would share their experiences with this issue.

I plan on speaking to my doctor next week about providing me a letter that summarizes my ailments and medication list. Any other steps that you all recommend?Dude you are wasting your time. Nobody checks that kind of shit. You should probably even buy a lottery ticket if anybody asks you to put your bag through the machine.

[11Bravo]

Hi gang,

As far as I can tell, Thailand only allows bringing in 30 days worth of prescription medication (in my case, I'm talking about diabetes & heart medicine).

I was hoping to take advantage of the fact that they're handing out 45-day visas now (and this trip I'the part of a longer tour through Asia, so I'm planning on having 60-90 day supply).

I've been doing some research on the subject and I've written to the Embassy asking for guidance, but considering the average age of a lot of travelers to Thailand, I figured that my situation cannot be that unique and was hoping that others would share their experiences with this issue.

I plan on speaking to my doctor next week about providing me a letter that summarizes my ailments and medication list. Any other steps that you all recommend?

Thanks and best regards.MY experience: I arrived 3 weeks ago, 90+ day supply of 4 medications, literally a box full. Arrived late night for what that is worth. Going through customs, I used the green line. X-ray is not mandatory. Wasn't stopped, given a cursory glance. Might not be PC, but I think it depends on your color, nationality, and where you're coming from. In numerous trips to Thailand over the years, only been stopped once. I do hold my passport in my hand, clearly visible.

My OPINION: with doctor's letter (I didn't bother) and onward travel proof, you should be OK.

[Explorer8939]

Hi gang,

As far as I can tell, Thailand only allows bringing in 30 days worth of prescription medication (in my case, I'm talking about diabetes & heart medicine).

I was hoping to take advantage of the fact that they're handing out 45-day visas now (and this trip I'the part of a longer tour through Asia, so I'm planning on having 60-90 day supply).

I've been doing some research on the subject and I've written to the Embassy asking for guidance, but considering the average age of a lot of travelers to Thailand, I figured that my situation cannot be that unique and was hoping that others would share their experiences with this issue.Don't worry about it.

[AggieDad1]

Hi gang,

As far as I can tell, Thailand only allows bringing in 30 days worth of prescription medication (in my case, I'm talking about diabetes & heart medicine).

I was hoping to take advantage of the fact that they're handing out 45-day visas now (and this trip I'the part of a longer tour through Asia, so I'm planning on having 60-90 day supply).

I've been doing some research on the subject and I've written to the Embassy asking for guidance, but considering the average age of a lot of travelers to Thailand, I figured that my situation cannot be that unique and was hoping that others would share their experiences with this issue.

I plan on speaking to my doctor next week about providing me a letter that summarizes my ailments and medication list. Any other steps that you all recommend?

Thanks and best regards.Came through BKK in mid October with my meds in 90 day supply bottles. No body asked or checked anything but my passport. I think a key factor is don't look like a bum.

[Explorer8939]

I tried to get a ride on Bolt tonight in Pattaya and was shocked that prices have tripled. I took the baht bus instead.

[HorseTrader]

Hi gang,

As far as I can tell, Thailand only allows bringing in 30 days worth of prescription medication (in my case, I'm talking about diabetes & heart medicine).

I was hoping to take advantage of the fact that they're handing out 45-day visas now (and this trip I'the part of a longer tour through Asia, so I'm planning on having 60-90 day supply).

I've been doing some research on the subject and I've written to the Embassy asking for guidance, but considering the average age of a lot of travelers to Thailand, I figured that my situation cannot be that unique and was hoping that others would share their experiences with this issue.

I plan on speaking to my doctor next week about providing me a letter that summarizes my ailments and medication list. Any other steps that you all recommend?

Thanks and best regards.I arrived with 60 days of my meds, some in the original oversized RX bottles and others repackaged (and hand labeled) to save space. The written prescriptions were also in my bag. When I opened my bags they each contained a security card that said my bag had been inspected. No problem for me, nobody even verbally told me that the inspection took place.

My prescriptions are all oral and topical. I might worry if I had to bring an injectable prescription.

[GrapeMan]

Hi gang,

As far as I can tell, Thailand only allows bringing in 30 days worth of prescription medication (in my case, I'm talking about diabetes & heart medicine).

I was hoping to take advantage of the fact that they're handing out 45-day visas now (and this trip I'the part of a longer tour through Asia, so I'm planning on having 60-90 day supply).

I've been doing some research on the subject and I've written to the Embassy asking for guidance, but considering the average age of a lot of travelers to Thailand, I figured that my situation cannot be that unique and was hoping that others would share their experiences with this issue.

I plan on speaking to my doctor next week about providing me a letter that summarizes my ailments and medication list. Any other steps that you all recommend?

Thanks and best regards.Thailand and basically any other country almost never will check and even if they do they won't do anything. Prescription meds are always fine. Have zero concerns, just show up.

[Bunky]

As far as I can tell, Thailand only allows bringing in 30 days worth of prescription medication (in my case, I'm talking about diabetes & heart medicine). I was hoping to take advantage of the fact that they're handing out 45-day visas now (and this trip is part of a longer tour through Asia, so I'm planning on having 60-90 day supply).As others have noted, it's rare for Thai Customs officers at BKK to search the luggage of incoming passengers. Moreover, anecdotal evidence suggests they are even less inclined to search when the passenger is an older gent who looks "respectable. " (Recognizing of course the prejudices and assumptions built into that adjective.)

It's also important to note the odds are very good that he can purchase whatever meds he needs in Thailand. Most pharmacies, especially those in Bangkok and Pattaya, stock the usual meds that are often prescribed for chronic conditions like diabetes and cardiac conditions. If Mr. Interest is really worried about carrying enough meds to last 60-90 days, he could hedge his bets by packing a 30-day supply and the buying what he needs once he arrives. Depending on the cost of prescription meds and the insurance coverage in his home country, he may even save some money.

Bunky

[Explorer8939]

As others have noted, it's rare for Thai Customs officers at BKK to search the luggage of incoming passengers. Moreover, anecdotal evidence suggests they are even less inclined to search when the passenger is an older gent who looks "respectable. " (Recognizing of course the prejudices and assumptions built into that adjective.)

It's also important to note the odds are very good that he can purchase whatever meds he needs in Thailand. Most pharmacies, especially those in Bangkok and Pattaya, stock the usual meds that are often prescribed for chronic conditions like diabetes and cardiac conditions. If Mr. Interest is really worried about carrying enough meds to last 60-90 days, he could hedge his bets by packing a 30-day supply and the buying what he needs once he arrives. Depending on the cost of prescription meds and the insurance coverage in his home country, he may even save some money.

BunkyThey rarely inspect the luggage of older tourists, and don't care about prescription meds.

And you can buy most prescription meds at most larger pharmacies.

[Nyezhov]

Hi gang,

As far as I can tell, Thailand only allows bringing in 30 days worth of prescription medication (in my case, I'm talking about diabetes & heart medicine).

I was hoping to take advantage of the fact that they're handing out 45-day visas now (and this trip I'the part of a longer tour through Asia, so I'm planning on having 60-90 day supply).

I've been doing some research on the subject and I've written to the Embassy asking for guidance, but considering the average age of a lot of travelers to Thailand, I figured that my situation cannot be that unique and was hoping that others would share their experiences with this issue.

I plan on speaking to my doctor next week about providing me a letter that summarizes my ailments and medication list. Any other steps that you all recommend?

Thanks and best regards.I just carry my "my Chart" printout of my drugs, and a 90 day supply and never had a hassle. If you are a cardiac patient and are in need, I highly recommend Dr. Jiranut at BNH or Dr. Wascin Buddari. They fixed me up and even my local USA docs said they did a great charge (unlike my Cambodian tooth, which my dentist laughed at).

[HolsterMike]

After an excruciating 22 hour flight I reached BkK and by the time I came I reached hotel near nana, it was 3 am.

Had couple of drinks (that I got from Airport).

Slept till 1:30 pm and headed out at 2:30 pm.

Was a tiring flight and got an amazing aroma Thai Message at Bai Po.

600 TB and she surely removed couple of knots.

Went to Soi Cowboy at 7:30 pm. Probably was too early, chicks were 6-7.

Hit Nana at 10 pm and bar fined a sexy chick from Mandarin Bar around 12 am.

Paid 4. 5 K TB including Bar fine. (Obviously was a rip off as I am an 'Indian' American).

This chick came and we had amazing fun for about 30 minutes. Including RIM, BBBJ, and hell even she was ready to do without cover.

Better sense prevailed and I used see but couldn't finish in her. So finally I asked her to blow me and did CIM.

After this (12:45 am) she complained of headache, and said wanted to sleep. Probably an usual trick of theirs and I let her sleep and even gave her a Tylenol 😂.

She popped it in and probably felt better and said I will go pick up few things from Bar and come back for sure and will stay till 6.

She gave me line ID and left. I was counting on her to come back (rookie mistake).

She later texts me and says mamasan said only 3 hours and that she finished it. What a BS and I fell for it.

Obviously no response after that. Lesson learnt the hard way.

Girl said she was 24. She looked like one. Probably k would rate 7-8.

Fit body but boobs were a little saggy. I could sense baby damage but she had a huge tattoo there.

I met another chick later and she said I just complain to mamasan tomorrow. But not sure if it is a wise idea.

Will call it a day!

[Tim Timms]

After an excruciating 22 hour flight I reached BkK and by the time I came I reached hotel near nana, it was 3 am.

Had couple of drinks (that I got from Airport).

Slept till 1:30 pm and headed out at 2:30 pm.

Was a tiring flight and got an amazing aroma Thai Message at Bai Po.

600 TB and she surely removed couple of knots.

Went to Soi Cowboy at 7:30 pm. Probably was too early, chicks were 6-7.

Hit Nana at 10 pm and bar fined a sexy chick from Mandarin Bar around 12 am.

Paid 4. 5 K TB including Bar fine. (Obviously was a rip off as I am an 'Indian' American).

This chick came and we had amazing fun for about 30 minutes. Including RIM, BBBJ, and hell even she was ready to do without cover.

Better sense prevailed and I used see but couldn't finish in her. So finally I asked her to blow me and did CIM.

After this (12:45 am) she complained of headache, and said wanted to sleep. Probably an usual trick of theirs and I let her sleep and even gave her a Tylenol.

She popped it in and probably felt better and said I will go pick up few things from Bar and come back for sure and will stay till 6.

She gave me line ID and left. I was counting on her to come back (rookie mistake).

She later texts me and says mamasan said only 3 hours and that she finished it. What a BS and I fell for it If she was a REAL 7. 5 and you got her for 4. 5 including barfine you got a Steal of the Centurion.

You did good getting 30 minutes. Hahaha.

[Nyezhov]

After an excruciating 22 hour flight I reached BkK and by the time I came I reached hotel near nana, it was 3 am.

Had couple of drinks (that I got from Airport).

Slept till 1:30 pm and headed out at 2:30 pm.

Was a tiring flight and got an amazing aroma Thai Message at Bai Po.

600 TB and she surely removed couple of knots.

Went to Soi Cowboy at 7:30 pm. Probably was too early, chicks were 6-7.

Hit Nana at 10 pm and bar fined a sexy chick from Mandarin Bar around 12 am.

Paid 4. 5 K TB including Bar fine. (Obviously was a rip off as I am an 'Indian' American).

This chick came and we had amazing fun for about 30 minutes. Including RIM, BBBJ, and hell even she was ready to do without cover.

Better sense prevailed and I used see but couldn't finish in her. So finally I asked her to blow me and did CIM.

After this (12:45 am) she complained of headache, and said wanted to sleep. Probably an usual trick of theirs and I let her sleep and even gave her a Tylenol 😂.

She popped it in and probably felt better and said I will go pick up few things from Bar and come back for sure and will stay till 6.

She gave me line ID and left. I was counting on her to come back (rookie mistake).

She later texts me and says mamasan said only 3 hours and that she finished it. What a BS and I fell for it.

Obviously no response after that. Lesson learnt the hard way.

Girl said she was 24. She looked like one. Probably k would rate 7-8.

Fit body but boobs were a little saggy. I could sense baby damage but she had a huge tattoo there.

I met another chick later and she said I just complain to mamasan tomorrow. But not sure if it is a wise idea.

Will call it a day!Short time is the key to fun adventures.

You arent an Indian American, or an Indian. Use that American passport, that's your ticket. You might get overcharged over that, but that's because you are "rich".

That 22 hours sounds like Atlanta to BKK via Korea. Thats a rough 15 hour pop to Seoul. THen you get in at 1 am. Then you screw around getting out of the airport. Don't see a bed till dawn, uggg.

[11Bravo]

Hit Nana at 10 pm and bar fined a sexy chick from Mandarin Bar around 12 am.
Paid 4. 5 K TB including Bar fine. (Obviously was a rip off as I am an 'Indian' American).
This chick came and we had amazing fun for about 30 minutes. Including RIM, BBBJ, and hell even she was ready to do without cover.
Better sense prevailed and I used see but couldn't finish in her. So finally I asked her to blow me and did CIM.
After this (12:45 am) she complained of headache, and said wanted to sleep. Probably an usual trick of theirs and I let her sleep and even gave her a Tylenol 😂.
She popped it in and probably felt better and said I will go pick up few things from Bar and come back for sure and will stay till 6.
She gave me line ID and left. I was counting on her to come back (rookie mistake).
She later texts me and says mamasan said only 3 hours and that she finished it. What a BS and I fell for it.
Obviously no response after that. Lesson learnt the hard way.
...
I met another chick later and she said I just complain to mamasan tomorrow. But not sure if it is a wise idea.I'd consider it as a lesson learned. I know I had to, and unfortunately, would have to relearn when I got complacent. Given it seems that the going rates are 3 k ST, 5 K LT, 4. 5 K including bar fine doesn't seem that over the top. Consider it an educational fee.

MY advice: chat with the girl to check her attitude, then ask for her menu, or just tell her YOUR job requirements; specify ST / LT INCLUDING time of departure; and price. You might throw in your hotel (though that's a trade off): wallet size vs her safety. FINALLY, add it's pay AFTER. If she mentions concerns about payment, well, trust is a TWO way street. A girl who wants to be paid BEFORE sets off my "Danger Will Robinson" alerts. Not saying it can't work, but gives her the control. Having said THAT, I always pay what was agreed to if time of service adhered to, regardless of quality of service. Otherwise, pay after doesn't work. Poor quality guarantees no repeats, quality generates repeat business.

Wg translations.

Where you come from? = How much can I charge, and how safe are you.

How long you stay BKK? = Can I charge you the tourist price or the local price.

What's your name? = Have to call you something.

Where you stay? = wallet size, safety, travel time / cost.

I have a headache, I'm sick, etc = The job is finished and I want to leave.

I'll be back = Unless she's Arnold, she won't.

[YounGun3393]

Hey guys def want to take a trip to here but am struggling to pick which area is better?

I see some prefer Pattaya other Bangkok. Which do why'all recommend? I'm not necessarily a first timer when it comes to mongering so I'm not an easy target or a simp.

Are the girls / massages / hotels better in one city vs the other?

When you guys fly in does Pattaya have their own airport bc I know the 2 are about 2 hrs apart. Just trying to gather some general info as I plan for this trip. I'm quite thorough and try to be as organized and safe as possible.

[Cha Chumplin]

After an excruciating 22 hour flight I reached BkK and by the time I came I reached hotel near nana, it was 3 am.

Had couple of drinks (that I got from Airport).

Slept till 1:30 pm and headed out at 2:30 pm.

Was a tiring flight and got an amazing aroma Thai Message at Bai Po.

600 TB and she surely removed couple of knots.

Went to Soi Cowboy at 7:30 pm. Probably was too early, chicks were 6-7.

Hit Nana at 10 pm and bar fined a sexy chick from Mandarin Bar around 12 am.

Paid 4. 5 K TB including Bar fine. (Obviously was a rip off as I am an 'Indian' American).

This chick came and we had amazing fun for about 30 minutes. Including RIM, BBBJ, and hell even she was ready to do without cover.

Better sense prevailed and I used see but couldn't finish in her. So finally I asked her to blow me and did CIM.

After this (12:45 am) she complained of headache, and said wanted to sleep. Probably an usual trick of theirs and I let her sleep and even gave her a Tylenol.Regards price. 4. 500 k including Barfine isn't a ripoff considering it's Long Time.

I'm telling you all don't pay no attention to the guy who is quoting outrageous Cheap price.

4,500 is actually a bargain. Assuming girl is a 5 or 6. Hahahaha.

[Oterri]

Short time is the key to fun adventures.

You arent an Indian American, or an Indian. Use that American passport, that's your ticket. You might get overcharged over that, but that's because you are "rich".

That 22 hours sounds like Atlanta to BKK via Korea. Thats a rough 15 hour pop to Seoul. THen you get in at 1 am. Then you screw around getting out of the airport. Don't see a bed till dawn, uggg.This is why I am developing cold feet. Too long flights for too few freelancers and massage shops.

May be I will wait till snowwhite is open again.

[11Bravo]

This is why I am developing cold feet. Too long flights for too few freelancers and massage shops.

May be I will wait till snowwhite is open again.My experience in Nov-Dec last year, plenty of massage shops open, though I will say, at a couple I repeat weekly. But also tried some new ones based on Newton York's FR's (see ROD's), and I certainly found plenty to keep me entertained. I am hopeful about Snow White, but won't hold my breath, given the failed example of the reincarnated Annie's. Yes, prices are up, the dollar is down, the Bier Garden is a shell. Yes, it is a long ride (mine isn't quite that long), but, believe me, it was good to be back and reconnect with old friends, plus make some new ones. It's Thailand.

[Lefeu]

Hey guys def want to take a trip to here but am struggling to pick which area is better?

I see some prefer Pattaya other Bangkok. Which do why'all recommend? I'm not necessarily a first timer when it comes to mongering so I'm not an easy target or a simp.

Are the girls / massages / hotels better in one city vs the other?...Each place has its own charm. I prefer Pattaya, but I always spend time in both places.

[Paolo99]

Wg translations.

Where you come from? = How much can I charge, and how safe are you.

How long you stay BKK? = Can I charge you the tourist price or the local price.

What's your name? = Have to call you something.

Where you stay? = wallet size, safety, travel time / cost.

I have a headache, I'm sick, etc = The job is finished and I want to leave.

I'll be back = Unless she's Arnold, she won't.Good translations, they are spot on.

[Paolo99]

Regards price. 4. 500 k including Barfine isn't a ripoff considering it's Long Time.

I'm telling you all don't pay no attention to the guy who is quoting outrageous Cheap price.

4,500 is actually a bargain. Assuming girl is a 5 or 6. Hahahaha.You're saying 4500 for a girl with saggy tits and baby damage hidden behind a huge tattoo is good price?

[Cha Chumplin]

You're saying 4500 for a girl with saggy tits and baby damage hidden behind a huge tattoo is good price?I'm glad you brought this up. Hahahaha.

Just generically Speaking. Yes he got a good deal. Assuming he got a Fair Type girl.

Fair being what's left over after the Hottie s all decline Long Time.

Remember many a times actual condition of body is hard to judge.

P.S. What I'm concerned about is he rating girl 7/8 knowing she had sags and baby damage. Hahahaha. Hahahaha.

[Lcale1982]

Hey guys def want to take a trip to here but am struggling to pick which area is better?

I see some prefer Pattaya other Bangkok. Which do why'all recommend? I'm not necessarily a first timer when it comes to mongering so I'm not an easy target or a simp.

Are the girls / massages / hotels better in one city vs the other?

When you guys fly in does Pattaya have their own airport bc I know the 2 are about 2 hrs apart. Just trying to gather some general info as I plan for this trip. I'm quite thorough and try to be as organized and safe as possible.Regarding girls. Pattaya is nice for a lot of beer bars and go go. BF at Pattaya was alot more than the ones i checked out at BK tho 1500 compared to 700. There were more options at P go go, BK ones i went to all seem pretty dead. Also plenty on TF but not much on Fiwfans. I hit up TF a lot in pattaya for the cheaper rates but of course most photo are P.S. Specially if he looks really hot and fair skin. If you see avg lookign gal on TF they will more likely match the pic. Guess you can try asking for video too before booking a session. BK was hard to find freelancer on TF but plenty of options on Fiwfans and again beware of photoshop so you won't get exactly what's on the pic. Thermae at BK you can see what you're getting but service probably won't compare especially if this is just their side gig. I prefer BK but all depends on what you want / like.

I don't really care for massage, all the hotels I stayed at this year at a few bugs both in BK and Pattaya. Some also got loud specially with workers and their clients LOL.

[HorseTrader]

I spent most of November and December touring Thailand, about half time doing "polite" activities and half-time mongering. I won't state specific names for 2 reasons: first you will never find the same girl and second I don't remember most of their names. Unless otherwise stated, I did BBBJ and BBFSCIP, I'm getting too old to consistently succeed with a cover. I had a vasectomy so I won't be leaving any babies behind. Because of BB, I made sure to use the toilet and shower immediately after my sessions, probably not perfectly safe but that's what I did.

This report covers almost 2 months, so I'll be brief on each topic.

SUKHUMVIT SOI 7/1 BJ BARS.

Twice I was desperate and settled at these places. Waste of time and money. Can't remember names of places I visited, I think one was Wood bar. Bottom feeder girls. I guess I was a bottom feeder those nights.

SUKHUMVIT FREELANCERS.

There were usually plenty available in the evening and quality was same as in prior years, some good, some bad. Too many ladyboys for my taste. Usually able to find at least one girl that tickled my fancy, but never did I find a super hottie. I had one night where we struggled to find an available short term hotel room, eventually ended up paying 600 baht at Miami on Soi 13. Girls were typically asking for 1000-1500 ST covered or 1500-2000 uncovered. As best I can remember, I had 3 sessions with freelancers, none were terrible and none were spectacular.

SUKHUMVIT BAR GIRLS.

There were some cuties in the new tiny bars on Soi 7, but I didn't have enough time to explore these options. I didn't see anything of interest in the larger beer bars, typically walked in and back out.

SOI 3 FREELANCERS.

These girls seem to be mentally different from those on Sukhumvit between Nana and Asoke BTS. Maybe calmer, less aggressive, perhaps luck of the draw or just my imagination. Had 4 sessions and 2 were worth repeating, including a deaf girl who didn't look too good but was a great performer. One girl was agreeable on the street but changed the price and ground rules in the room, but she eventually completed the task at agreed price but then complained (I won't go back to her, ever). One girl had her pussy covered in little bumps and I didn't want to touch it more than I already had. Ended the session, took shower, paid, and left.

SUKHUMVIT SOI 24 MASSAGE SHOPS.

Some of the best lookers were available here. I did 2 fully covered sessions and both were bland. I can't remember which shops I used; they all seem the same to me. I paid about 1800 baht for 45 minutes each time; maybe it was a little more, I don't remember. About 10 months ago Pink massage had a girl who gave me a spectacular 45 minutes, the shop now has a different name but she was still available. I foolishly went elsewhere. PM if you want that girl's name, I've given her name in the past and received positive reviews.

NANA PLAZA.

Perhaps my favorite place in Thailand is Nana Plaza. I've read many complaints about the girls being less attractive than in the past, but most of the go go bars will have at least one girl that has the right look for me. Most of the big bars were too crowded and noisy for me, so I gravitated to the small bars and watched 2 or 3 dance sets before I bought any lady drinks. Before offering lady drink I always asked if she did bar fines (all said yes) and then I held up 1 finger to waitress and said 1 drink. Often waitress would say something like "can she have blah blah blah" and I would again hold up 1 finger and say "1 drink". I suspect they were going to bill 2 drinks for a rum and coke (or whatever). I bar fined 2 girls, one from Mandarin (3rd floor with entrance on 2nd floor at top of escalator) and Random (2nd floor to the left of the wide stairs). In both cases I did short time and enjoyed my sessions. I think both bar fines were 800, drinks for both about 400, and her fee was 3000. I tend to tip mamas about 200 baht, she is the one who I want to like me. I had one girl who claimed she was 21, that this was her first night working in bar, and I was her first ever boom-boom customer. Yea, sure, whatever you say. She sure knew the routine well for me being her first boom-boom customer ever (get dressed, walk directly to ST hotel, check in here, find the room there, etc); it seemed to me like she had done it many times.

HUA HIN.

Soi Bintabaht had about 5 girls for every customer at 10 PM, none of them looked great, just a few looked doable. One bar had girls outside holding signs saying something like "Fuck tonight, pay tomorrow"; that gave me a chuckle. I had one drink with one of the better-looking girls on the soi and ended up doing a bar fine. The barmaid / mamasan wanted 600 bar fine and I said "this is just short time" and she dropped it to 300 baht. Can't remember, but I think I gave her 2000 for BBFSCIP plus another 300 for the hotel room. Only one of the Hua Hin girls looked great, she was a massage girl on Poonsuk Road (what a great name for a road!). No full service available but I got an excellent BBBJCIM, paid about 1000 baht and it was well worth it. If she worked at Nana Plaza, she would have been the best looker in most of the bars.

I hired a tuktuk to give me a tour and walked a single pass through Soi 80 and Soi 94. As weak as Bintabaht and Poonsuk are, Sois 80 and 94 are smaller and weaker.

THAI TRAVELER PLACES.

I spent some time in places where few farang visit. Very few options in terms of street freelancers or girl bars. I did have one session in a no-sex massage place that was quite nice. I think I paid 2000 for a wonderful massage plus BBFSCIP. I won't be spending much future time in these areas unless I bring my own girl.

PATPONG and THANIYA ROAD.

Very different areas but very close together. Thaniya road had lots of true hotties sitting outside, presumably trying to draw attention for karaoke. One group seemed to be eyeballing me, but then I realized I was in their direct line of sight with a group of young, well dressed, Asian men. I walked that area 2 or 3 passes and it didn't seem they were interested in me.

I walked in and out of most of the Patpong bars and didn't see anything worth my time. Walked in and out of some upper floor massage places. Did have one drink in one bar (maybe it was King's Castle 2?) and watched the show. One girl latched onto me and wouldn't leave for the longest time. After carefully checking out the available girls, I didn't buy any lady drinks. That was the bar with the best-looking girls in Patpong on that night. The low point of the night was when I went to a massage shop and mamasan offered 200 baht for 60-minute oil massage, I accepted but the massage girl refused to use oil at the 200-baht price, she wanted 300 baht to use oil. Too bad, she was about the best-looking girl in all of Patpong and I would have tipped high for the right services. I got dressed and walked out. She was not as hot as the better Thaniya Road girls.

LAMAI BEACH KOH SAMUI.

Lamai Beach is a small area with lots of girl bars and some special service massage places. Most massage places have nothing but old women to service you, I don't even go into those places. But at the north end of town is a cluster of about 5 massage places with some cute girls. I had 2 massages, both with pretty girls under 25. One provided BBFSCIP but the other provided only HJ. If I recall, the massage plus BBFSCIP was 2000 and the massage plus HJ was 500 or 1000.

The Lamai girl bars are in the center of town and a large cluster to the south. All girl bars in Lamai are tiny, no more than about 15 seats. None of the bars were loaded with hotties, perhaps 1 in 20 girls looked good enough to work at Nana Plaza, but there were often more than 100 girls to assess. It takes some looking, but I always found someone doable and CFS was available for 1000 and BBFSCIP for 1500. I had services that were good enough so I was happy to give 1500 plus 500 tip. As a group, the Lamai girls had the most enjoyable personalities I've met in Thailand. Very relaxed. I had about 6 sessions (4 different girls) and all of them wanted to spend the night with me in my hotel. I'm not into LT with professionals so I sent them away after the main event. I had one girl 3 times and wish I had more nights with her. Three of the girls that I bar fined could have been bottom level Nana Plaza girls, one would have been mid-level at Nana.

CHAWENG KOH SAMUI.

Reports have indicated that there were more pretty girls in Chaweng than Lamai, in my eye the group was no different than Lamai in appearance. The bars are very different than Lamai, much larger. I spent a few hours in the Green Mango area and bought only 1 or 2 lady drinks and did zero bar fines.

[HorseTrader]

SOI 3 FREELANCERS.

These girls seem to be mentally different from those on Sukhumvit between Nana and Asoke BTS. ….Sorry, Soi 4, not Soi 3. Hope I didn't send any newbies to the wrong side of Sukhumvit.

[Vendelo]

I spent most of November and December touring Thailand, about half time doing "polite" activities and half-time mongering. I won't state specific names for 2 reasons: first you will never find the same girl and second I don't remember most of their names. Unless otherwise stated, I did BBBJ and BBFSCIP, I'm getting too old to consistently succeed with a cover. I had a vasectomy so I won't be leaving any babies behind. Because of BB, I made sure to use the toilet and shower immediately after my sessions, probably not perfectly safe but that's what I did.

This report covers almost 2 months, so I'll be brief on each topic.

LAMAI BEACH KOH SAMUI.

Lamai Beach is a small area with lots of girl bars and some special service massage places. Most massage places have nothing but old women to service you, I don't even go into those places. But at the north end of town is a cluster of about 5 massage places with some cute girls. I had 2 massages, both with pretty girls under 25. One provided BBFSCIP but the other provided only HJ. If I recall, the massage plus BBFSCIP was 2000 and the massage plus HJ was 500 or 1000.

The Lamai girl bars are in the center of town and a large cluster to the south. All girl bars in Lamai are tiny, no more than about 15 seats. None of the bars were loaded with hotties, perhaps 1 in 20 girls looked good enough to work at Nana Plaza, but there were often more than 100 girls to assess. It takes some looking, but I always found someone doable and CFS was available for 1000 and BBFSCIP for 1500. I had services that were good enough so I was happy to give 1500 plus 500 tip. As a group, the Lamai girls had the most enjoyable personalities I've met in Thailand. Very relaxed. I had about 6 sessions (4 different girls) and all of them wanted to spend the night with me in my hotel. I'm not into LT with professionals so I sent them away after the main event. I had one girl 3 times and wish I had more nights with her. Three of the girls that I bar fined could have been bottom level Nana Plaza girls, one would have been mid-level at Nana.
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CHAWENG KOH SAMUI.

Reports have indicated that there were more pretty girls in Chaweng than Lamai, in my eye the group was no different than Lamai in appearance. The bars are very different than Lamai, much larger. I spent a few hours in the Green Mango area and bought only 1 or 2 lady drinks and did zero bar fines.The girls that offered BBFSCIP, did they offer this service only because you've had a vasectomy?

[HorseTrader]

The girls that offered BBFSCIP, did they offer this service only because you've had a vasectomy?Usually it isn't even mentioned. If she is hesitant but still shows interest, I tell her I've had a vasectomy, but that is unlikely to be understood.

[ThaiGoodTimes]

Usually it isn't even mentioned. If she is hesitant but still shows interest, I tell her I've had a vasectomy, but that is unlikely to be understood.I tell them I have been "cut" and pantomime a "scissor snip" at my cock.

Then add can not make a baby.

Most of them understand that and then accept it as a greenlight for BB and sometimes BBCIP.

[GuyBrusg1957]

Is there anyway to get lineups for girls in soapies like you can for other clubs?

[StLouisMo2010]

Will arrive in May to Jomtien / Pattaya, can anyone tell me if the American Streaming Apps like Prime, Paramount +, HBO etc. Work in Thailand? I will have good Wi-Fi, I have used Amazon Music successfully with my Alexa device- it is not without 'breakups" in the audio, but still worth listening to rather than Issan music 555, any information will be appreciated. Cheers.

[Mr Enternational]

Is there anyway to get lineups for girls in soapies like you can for other clubs?Lineups? They all are already there in front of you staring you in the face.

[HorseTrader]

Will arrive in May to Jomtien / Pattaya, can anyone tell me if the American Streaming Apps like Prime, Paramount +, HBO etc. Work in Thailand? I will have good Wi-Fi, I have used Amazon Music successfully with my Alexa device- it is not without 'breakups" in the audio, but still worth listening to rather than Issan music 555, any information will be appreciated. Cheers.At least some of them work in Thailand, can't say about all of them. I've watched movies on NetFlix and maybe on Amazon Prime. However, there is some programming that isn't available in Thailand. For example, in December I wanted to watch a football game that was available in USA on fubo, but it was blocked in Thailand on fubo.

[Nyezhov]

At least some of them work in Thailand, can't say about all of them. I've watched movies on NetFlix and maybe on Amazon Prime. However, there is some programming that isn't available in Thailand. For example, in December I wanted to watch a football game that was available in USA on fubo, but it was blocked in Thailand on fubo.Use a VPN.

[Sky Ryder]

Will arrive in May to Jomtien / Pattaya, can anyone tell me if the American Streaming Apps like Prime, Paramount +, HBO etc. Work in Thailand? I will have good Wi-Fi, I have used Amazon Music successfully with my Alexa device- it is not without 'breakups" in the audio, but still worth listening to rather than Issan music 555, any information will be appreciated. Cheers.Paramount and Peacock for certain are blocked and Netflix will show the offerings for the area you are logged onto in my experience. Much of the ESPN+ content is blocked outside the USA.

I use a SurfShark VPN or Hide My Ass and both do a good job, although sometimes you will need to look around for the server that works. I have a couple of times where I got a message that said "We have detected you are using a VPN so please disable to try again. I switched servers once or twice and it seemed to work okay. My question is where is this good wifi you speak of?

Sky.

[GuyBrusg1957]

Lineups? They all are already there in front of you staring you in the face.Whoops, I meant online.

[Carlotx]

What city has the best looking girls. Just based off looks. I originally thought Bangkok, but my friends say Pattaya and Phuket. I've never been there but see more venues and places in bkk. I'm going to Thailand soon. I get mixed answers so I thought why not ask the pros.

[Guido88]

Will arrive in May to Jomtien / Pattaya, can anyone tell me if the American Streaming Apps like Prime, Paramount +, HBO etc. Work in Thailand? I will have good Wi-Fi, I have used Amazon Music successfully with my Alexa device- it is not without 'breakups" in the audio, but still worth listening to rather than Issan music 555, any information will be appreciated. Cheers.VPN then use an app that allows access to the newsgroups. Easynews is a good example. There are several out there. You can find anything period in multiple languages and format sizes, current episodes, movies, sports ect. . Best of all no commercials at all. This approach may or may no be legal depending on location. Use a VPN.

Just my. 02.

Guido88.

[Red Hawk]

Hi Guys,

Regarding Koh Samui.

Am I right to think I can take a girl to any hotel (I like 5 star accommodation) however if it's not girl friendly they will ask for a joiner fee? Or is it some of them will outright refuse my company for the night.

Thanks in advance.

Red.

[Explorer8939]

For you guys even thinking about "retiring" an older bargirl, and then settling down in Pattaya:

It is very common for Thai women to hit peak horniness around age 40. I know lots of older bargirls who crave young guys to satisfy their needs. The problem is that not long after they hit age 40, their sex drive almost completely shuts down. The classic scenario is for some foreigner to settle down with an older bargirl, who then stops fucking. So, the guy is stuck with a Thai wife who is not interested in sex. Which is why there are so many bars east of Sukhumvit Road, this is where most Farangs settle.

This isn't to say that the older married Thai lady has zero sex drive, but she needs her Thai boyfriend to make her horny. So, when her Farang husband is hitting the bars, she gets a quickie from her Thai man.

Yeah, the sex drive of older Thai ladies can be very strong: one lady I went with literally could not get enough. Too much for me. She ended up working cashier in a boy bar, so she had easy access to young guys.

[GuyBrusg1957]

What city has the best looking girls. Just based off looks. I originally thought Bangkok, but my friends say Pattaya and Phuket. I've never been there but see more venues and places in bkk. I'm going to Thailand soon. I get mixed answers so I thought why not ask the pros.Bangkok. Pattaya at least prior to the pandemic wasn't bad and has some cool spots but Bangkok just so big with everything.

I've never been to Phuket but I have not heard of anything good post pandemic. At all.

[Mua Tur]

Hi Guys,

Regarding Koh Samui.

Am I right to think I can take a girl to any hotel (I like 5 star accommodation) however if it's not girl friendly they will ask for a joiner fee? Or is it some of them will outright refuse my company for the night.

Thanks in advance.

Red.Any hotel is girl friendly in Thailand regardless any star. Joiner fee may adopted if the room is booked for single occupancy. Just book a double room, no one will eye whom with you or whom is not.

[Explorer8939]

Hi Guys,

Regarding Koh Samui.

Am I right to think I can take a girl to any hotel (I like 5 star accommodation) however if it's not girl friendly they will ask for a joiner fee? Or is it some of them will outright refuse my company for the night.

Thanks in advance.

Red.Book for 2 persons.

[Explorer8939]

Will arrive in May to Jomtien / Pattaya, can anyone tell me if the American Streaming Apps like Prime, Paramount +, HBO etc. Work in Thailand? I will have good Wi-Fi, I have used Amazon Music successfully with my Alexa device- it is not without 'breakups" in the audio, but still worth listening to rather than Issan music 555, any information will be appreciated. Cheers.Hre's a hint: if you have a Thai lady in your room, try playing Isaan music.

[Lcale1982]

Hi Guys,

Regarding Koh Samui.

Am I right to think I can take a girl to any hotel (I like 5 star accommodation) however if it's not girl friendly they will ask for a joiner fee? Or is it some of them will outright refuse my company for the night.

Thanks in advance.

Red.I didn't stay at any 5 star hotels but most of the hotels did mention a joiner fee in the fine print and some had signs at the front desk. I booked my rooms for two people and none of the hotels I stayed at in BKK or Pattaya seems to enforce the joiner fee.

[BionicMan]

I didn't stay at any 5 star hotels but most of the hotels did mention a joiner fee in the fine print and some had signs at the front desk. I booked my rooms for two people and none of the hotels I stayed at in BKK or Pattaya seems to enforce the joiner fee.If you booked for two, the joiner fee applies for a possible 3rd guest in the room, be it ST or LT.

[ThaiGoodTimes]

Bangkok. Pattaya at least prior to the pandemic wasn't bad and has some cool spots but Bangkok just so big with everything.

I've never been to Phuket but I have not heard of anything good post pandemic. At all.Hahahaha, you must be deaf then.

So many of the stunning Thai women headed to Phuket from Bangkok and Pattaya when covid hit as it was for a long time the only place open to tourism.

Even post pandemic a lot of those women have stayed and are now based in Phuket.

Just search the social media feeds of the cool hip places in Phuket, nightclubs, beach clubs, be seen places and you will see them.

Personally I don't and never will chase them as their rates are out of proportion with any value criteria.

But notwithstanding that, they are there for those with the cash to splash, and with the style and flair to interest them.

[Turgid]

.....The problem is that not long after they hit age 40, their sex drive almost completely shuts down......This isn't to say that the older married Thai lady has zero sex drive, but she needs her Thai boyfriend to make her horny. So, when her Farang husband is hitting the bars, she gets a quickie from her Thai man.....the sex drive of older Thai ladies can be very strong: one lady I went with literally could not get enough. Too much for me. She ended up working cashier in a boy bar, so she had easy access to young guys.I'm getting 3 things from your post:

1. Some Thai ladies over 40 have no sex drive;.

2. Some older Thai ladies prefer Thai man to farang; and

3. Some older Thai ladies have a very strong sex drive.

[PilotPete]

On some FIWFANS there is reference to an up charge for size above 53 or 54. It's not centimeters obviously so what unit of measurement is being referenced.