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Big Boss Man
06-01-09, 03:59
Peppermint turned out to be my favorite Go Go on my short trip to Pattaya. The interesting experience that I had there was to take out a girl for her first time ever #91. She said that she had been in Pattaya only three days. She did not know how to put a condom on nor would she give head. I would not recommend one so inexperienced but I am on a long trip so variety spices up life. The other thing she did was wash her hair in my shower which also tells me she was not settled yet. I went back the next night to take her out but she was not around. I took out number 62 instead.
I wonder how long it will be before she starts giving BJs? She will probably figure it out when guys start turning her down.
Peppermint was even more expensive than Super Girl but I liked the ambience better. 600 baht barfine and they asked for 2000 short-time and 3000 long-time.
Fast Eddie 48
06-01-09, 07:52
Thats what it is all about, being happy.
But, I think you over paid. I am sure you would have got the pair for 1000 Baht. Your money so it`s up to you.
Problem is, the next punter they snare they will be expecting 1000 Baht each and the Beach Road freelancers will be on the same upward spiral fees wise as the Soi 6 girls and the go-go girls.Woodman 2,
This are nice looking girl not your average beach girl, but I would keep them over night for 1000 bht each, bonker 4 have a good time as long he think is worth the money.
Fast Eddie 48
LittleBigMan
06-01-09, 08:51
Big Boss Man,
#91, wasn't there because she was out using the same line and washing her hair at another Farang Hotel room who also fell for the same line. She good #91!
LBM
I pulled Jiab out of Superbaby last night.
Jiab has been around for a few years now and though beginning to develop a little tummy I have always thought she was one of the best looking girls in any go-go bar in Thailand. Her Betty Boop mouth is wonderful and she always has this quizzical look on her face. But I just look - have had a few friends go with her and all came back with really mediocre reports - all covered as you say and in a hell of a hurry to leave. Since I have already seen those wonderful breasts I am not sure what the point of taking her would be. A trophy f*** I guess.
I'm sure that all the other guys getting 5-10 sms a day, miss Nok too.
Has the family buffalo died yet?
LOL
Actually, the buffalo is fine though the arthritis is starting to slow him down. The problem with the 5-10 sms's per day is that they remind me of the 5 - 10 BJ she wanted to give me per day. Crazy as this sounds this girl never asked for money nor complained about being broke ( I was ready for the usual SOP which is why I haven't stayed with a girl more than overnight in over 10 years).
I simply took her out for a nice dinner every night - bought her lots of drinks as we hit the town and then had to shove cash into her purse when she left in the morning. She reminded me of what it was like here in LOS back in the late 70's early 80's. Those were the days.
Frankfurter
06-02-09, 15:48
Guys:
What's the word currently on a friendly BB and nice Take Out staff, maybe closer to the South side, Pattaya Hill, since I will be staying at the Dynasty Resort? (However, I will have transportation.)
Thanks!
Wangho6969
06-02-09, 16:42
Guys:
What's the word currently on a friendly BB and nice Take Out staff, maybe closer to the South side, Pattaya Hill, since I will be staying at the Dynasty Resort? (However, I will have transportation.)
Thanks!Great choice of hotels, that's where I stay when visiting Pattaya/jomtien.
You can rent a scooter right around the corner on the hill for comparitively cheap from a british expat. His gf/wife does laundry for cheap too.
I prefer the bb on soi boukau, not sure of the spelling but pronounced bowcow.
The massage action is great at soi honey just off third road.
If you have a day in BKK you should try a sweet girl called "nice" at aviva massage on soi 8, she was delicious. You look up on the left when turning on to soi 8 and you see a sign pointing the way to aviva.
Hope this helps happy punning. Wangho6969.
I feel the same way. In three paragraphs, you have summed up my thoughts about Pattaya.
I have been to Pattaya 4 times and have only bar fined a girl once (my first trip). The only reason why I go back is to go swimming in Koh Larn, which has one of the prettiest beaches around and is close to BKK.
The only down side is all of the tour companies dump their guest their mid day, I would recommend going after 2pm.
As far as the girls are concern. If you like them darker, older, and uglier than be my guest. I would say out of 100 girls, there are 2 decent looking ones and 1 hot one. Go out early otherwise these few will have been taken.
FYI: If you living here, the Thais look down on darker skin girls. So you will not impress anyone at work if you show up with a black Thai girl, which is what I see a lot of in Pattaya. If you don't believe me or need to confirm my statement, just turn the TV on. Do you see any black Thai girls on the tube?Someone one said that generalizations are the work of fools. There are more than 2000 bars, gogos in Pattaya and all kinds of women. Never seen such ignorant comments on the site. Arkyboy
...Pattaya ...I fail to see the attraction.
GE
Are you serious, GE? Cheap sex, obviously.
I prefer the bb on soi boukau, not sure of the spelling but pronounced bowcow.Ah, the most misspelled, mispronounced street name in all Thailand. For the record it's Buakhaao ("White Lotus"), pronounced Boo-a-cow.
Having read about Pattaya for years, I finally decided, during my recent trip to Bangkok, to go and see for myself. I was staying at Giotto's place, and he kindly arranged a private car (B1,500), which was new, clean, and efficient to take me there. I booked a room online, at the Nova Platinum Hotel, on the recommendation of Piper 1, and got a rate of something less than B1,500 a night. The hotel was terrific: large plasma TV in the room, nicely furnished, and strictly no hassles.
For me, the hotel was the best thing about the place as I found Pattaya to be, in general, a hole. First, it probably had the largest assemblage of unattractive, worn, Thai women I've ever seen in any single location. Second, most of the foreign tourists looked like they crept out of the woodwork of the Norman Bates motel: a truly motley collection of farangs and Thais.
I did rent a small motor bike, which was sort of fun, and I did explore most of the tourist sports of the city, but I have to confess, I do not understand the attraction, and I doubt that I will ever return. I hit Walking St., Beach Road, most of the Sois, and could find no redeeming qualities of the areas at all. Unless your idea of fun is watching a bunch of rowdy Australians, in old shorts and tee shirts getting drunk at 10 in the morning, I fail to see the attraction. Had I not prepaid for two nights, I would have returned to the more civilized atmosphere of Bangkok and Giotto's establishment after a single night. As it is, I'm sorry I wasted my time.
GEThis is also my first time ever in Pattaya and would like do add my comments. I came attracted by the reports about this place regarded as some kind of mongers' Disneyland. I booked at the Nova Platinum Hotel which was accurately described as well located and close to the action. My first impression was: yes, there are lots of girls but I feel it was a little bit short of the huge expectations created from reports. Initially I though " Well, this place is nice but Subic BAy in the Phillipines is defiintively better in terms of quality". This is because my type of girl is curvy, wide hips and nice butt and I found most of the girls too skinny. Obviously this is just a matter of taste and I understand that lots of guys like this kind of girls, I respect that. Obviously the go-go bars are places where the odds of getting my dreamed girl were good, however I've read reports about having to pay big premiums and, more important, the services are mostly mechanical and rushed. So, after going through several bars an go-go's I decided to go look for the freelance talent down in the beach. After looking around I spotted this lady that had the kind of body I was looking for, not to skinny, not to chunky and a nice tanned skin. I talked to her and immediately started a nice conversation. She has in her thirties but in a really good shape I would give her a 7. After some minutes I decided to take her home. Once in the hotel I offered her something to drink, she asked for a beer so I got one from the mini-bar, but when she saw the price list she said that was a rip-off and she offered to go down to a convenience store for cheaper beers! Obviously I went with her and got a six pack. So we were back to the room drinking our beers and having a good time. Sex was great, a total GFE. The "damage": 1000 BTH for the whole night and part of the morning. Of course I gave her a nice tip as I was very pleased with her services.
The moral is: Personally I believe that beauty is not all to look for in a one-night stand girl. As a matter of fact, the most memorable experiences have been with average non-smoking hot girls whose main attribute is great attitude. But if what you are looking for in Pattaya is 10 rated girls you'll find it but not without some effort and $$$
Happy hunting.
Kim Wheather
06-03-09, 23:40
I have been in Phuket, but never in Pattaya. Is there "joiner fee" at the hotels in Pattaya?
Would you please suggest some hotels, which is close to the action-place and which does not demand "joiner fee"?
I have been in Phuket, but never in Pattaya. Is there "joiner fee" at the hotels in Pattaya?
Would you please suggest some hotels, which is close to the action-place and which does not demand "joiner fee"?
Most Pattaya Hotels are GF but there are a few that charge joiner fees. Check the Pattaya hotel thread for more info.
The moral is: Personally I believe that beauty is not all to look for in a one-night stand girl. As a matter of fact, the most memorable experiences have been with average non-smoking hot girls whose main attribute is great attitude. But if what you are looking for in Pattaya is 10 rated girls you'll find it but not without some effort and $$$
P4P stunners or 10s are not necessarily going to put forth the effort because as has been said here before these girls are in high demand and prefer to stay in the bars perfecting imbibing. They make more money staying in the bars or doing multiple quickie ST sessions. Some of them think that when you bar fine them, they are doing you a favor. It's true that most of the girls in Pattaya are average lookers but there are stunners if that is what you want. However, it will cost you more and the service may or not equate the price you pay.
My first impression was: yes, there are lots of girls but I feel it was a little bit short of the huge expectations created from reports. Initially I though " Well, this place is nice but Subic BAy in the Phillipines is defiintively better in terms of quality". Happy hunting.
Subic Bay and Manila are both great places for women, as I've been to both for the past 20 years. I've always had a toss up whether to settle for Pattaya and Thailand, or PI. Both have their qualities. I love them both. I wouldn't be so quick to brush off Pattaya. Although you're correct about seemingly thinner women in Thailand, there are still the curvy types here too.
My friend and I would often dismiss each other's claim of "beautiful women", as he also preferred the curvy type, and I definitely leaned towards the thin. But he always found what he was looking for. The curvy types are out there.
He didn't typically find those curvaceous women at my preferred clubs (Happy, Peppermint, Club Boesche'). Seems like Tahitian Queen (original, on Beach Road) often had a suitable mix, that I could get my "thin" fill, and he would find the curvier one. There was another club he liked where there were curvy girls, but I don't recall where it was.
They're out there, is all I'm saying.
Subic Bay... ahh, the memories...
P4P stunners or 10s are not necessarily going to put forth the effort because as has been said here before these girls are in high demand and prefer to stay in the bars perfecting imbibing.
Run Mann, you are quite right about the beautiful women of Pattaya, the 10's. Maybe I've just been fortunate, but most of the service I've recieved from the stunners has been pretty good overall. Not always, but not really disappointed. But the exceptional service has been from the "less-than-stunners", and I agree with you.
But I guess I'm just so shallow... I tend to keep going back to the 10's with their higher prices, pretty good attitude (overall), and still good service. The individual stunners who suck (not in a good way), don't get a second round with me. But those have been the minority.
Someone one said that generalizations are the work of fools. There are more than 2000 bars, gogos in Pattaya and all kinds of women. Never seen such ignorant comments on the site. ArkyboyEveryone is entitled to his opinion on this site. What Arkyboy considers an "ignorant" comment may be found useful by others. As you can see from all my post, I never criticize the views of other and have always added something of value to each of my posts.
The posts are my observations from being here and living here. But the true disclaimer is beauty is in the eye of the beholder. A classic example of this is the girl I'm currently with. While I think she a mere 7, I posted her picture on date in Asia and she got like hundreds of messages. This is the same girl that I have dumped 3 times.
So you each his own. I am not new to forums and reason why forums are such fun and an effective way to share info is because you are FREE to express your opinions.
If a new viewer reads this forum and see your post in which you call my comment ignorant, he might be hesitant to contribute his opinion. In this case we all lose out on what could be potential valuable info which he would have share.
In the end we are all losers if we can not respect the views of others.
Originally Posted by Frankfurter
Guys:
What's the word currently on a friendly BB and nice Take Out staff, maybe closer to the South side, Pattaya Hill, since I will be staying at the Dynasty Resort? (However, I will have transportation.)
Thanks!
Dynasty has charged me extra when I bring in more then one girl.
Its a great resort on the hill with a nice pool.
But they have jacked me on the extra girls.
Run Mann, you are quite right about the beautiful women of Pattaya, the 10's. Maybe I've just been fortunate, but most of the service I've recieved from the stunners has been pretty good overall. Not always, but not really disappointed. But the exceptional service has been from the "less-than-stunners", and I agree with you.
But I guess I'm just so shallow... I tend to keep going back to the 10's with their higher prices, pretty good attitude (overall), and still good service. The individual stunners who suck (not in a good way), don't get a second round with me. But those have been the minority.
Yes, and another reason why I always prefer ST sessions with a girl you pick up for the first time. Regardless of how you click in the club/bar/MP you never know how they will perform until they get back to your room. Hell, some of them even look differently in your room than they did in the club. After a successful ST session then go LT, just one method to use to cut down on disappointments.
Frankfurter
06-05-09, 11:47
Hey Dude:
That's interesting: Can you confirm that they didn't charge you for ONE girl but they do when you bring an additional spare? If so, how much did they charge you?
I can confirm that the Dynasty Inn Grande in Bangkok does exactly that: not charge for one girl, but charge 500B for the second girl.
So, a fair chance that the Dynasty Resort does that too. It's a fairly common practice in mainstream hotels.
Hey Dude:
That's interesting: Can you confirm that they didn't charge you for ONE girl but they do when you bring an additional spare? If so, how much did they charge you?
My friend and I would often dismiss each other's claim of "beautiful women", as he also preferred the curvy type, and I definitely leaned towards the thin. But he always found what he was looking for. The curvy types are out there.
Hi Jelly37,
Yes I just confirmed that Pattaya has all kind of women for all tastes. I found a gal (Nan) that really fulfills this type. I've been in Rio de Janeiro, Cartegaena and Panama and I can tell you that the body of this lady is well into these countries standards, needles to say, her attitude is great too.
To sum up, Pattaya rocks!
I have been in Phuket, but never in Pattaya. Is there "joiner fee" at the hotels in Pattaya?
Would you please suggest some hotels, which is close to the action-place and which does not demand "joiner fee"?I can recommend the Nova Platinum Hotel (http://www.amari.com/novaplatinum/). Last night I brought in two girls and nobody in the reception bothered me, they just asked for the girls' IDs.
I had also a very curvy girl in my last stay in Pattaya. Her name was Noi. She was very curvy (very small waist and broad hips). Would say waist were about 22" and hips about 36".
But, one thing she didn't had and that was a bubble butt. Her butt was not flat, but also not a Jennifer Lopez kind of butt. I guess that is very seldom in Thailand.
Hi Jelly37,
Yes I just confirmed that Pattaya has all kind of women for all tastes. I found a gal (Nan) that really fulfills this type. I've been in Rio de Janeiro, Cartegaena and Panama and I can tell you that the body of this lady is well into these countries standards, needles to say, her attitude is great too.
To sum up, Pattaya rocks!
I had also a very curvy girl in my last stay in Pattaya. Her name was Noi. She was very curvy (very small waist and broad hips). Would say waist were about 22" and hips about 36".
But, one thing she didn't had and that was a bubble butt. Her butt was not flat, but also not a Jennifer Lopez kind of butt. I guess that is very seldom in Thailand.Yes, you are right. But I guess I just found I a "black swan" down in beach road. Check this out
Yes, you are right. But I guess I just found I a "black swan" down in beach road. Check this out
Wow, well done Tequila. I would do her as well, though I have to say that someone could call her too heavy.
Will say I prefer the ones with the wasp waists. Will say a waists below 24" is nice, especially if she have hips above 36" and nice butt as well. She don't need to have big tits as long as they are firm.
Well, I start dreaming, since such a body you might not find easily even in South America.
But, anyway for a ST the girl on you photo would be a nice change after all the small and flat ass Thai girls.
I am currently in Bangkok since two days and will move to Pattaya in a week or so. Maybe I will first go to Chang Mai and than to Pattaya. Will see.
Yes, you are right. But I guess I just found I a "black swan" down in beach road. Check this out
Fucking nice!. :D:D:D
I can recommend the Nova Platinum Hotel (http://www.amari.com/novaplatinum/). Last night I brought in two girls and nobody in the reception bothered me, they just asked for the girls' IDs.I stay at the the Dynasty Inn, great location, reasonable rates, no problem with "guests" and a free shuttle from their hotel in Bangkok.I am planning a trip this November or December and will stay there again. A google search will bring up the hotel's site with rates and reservation information.
Billy Baht
06-09-09, 11:29
Yes, you are right. But I guess I just found I a "black swan" down in beach road. Check this out
Nice butt on that girl Mr. T :D
Billy Baht
06-09-09, 11:38
P4P stunners or 10s are not necessarily going to put forth the effort because as has been said here before these girls are in high demand and prefer to stay in the bars perfecting imbibing. They make more money staying in the bars or doing multiple quickie ST sessions. Some of them think that when you bar fine them, they are doing you a favor. It's true that most of the girls in Pattaya are average lookers but there are stunners if that is what you want. However, it will cost you more and the service may or not equate the price you pay.
I agree. A lot of guys are still in to "trophy" P4P girls. What ever floats their boats. I'll take a 5 or 6 with a good attitude anyday over a 9 or 10 "You may adore me now" type :D Many of the 10s have sponsors and don't care to be bar fined anyway.
I agree. A lot of guys are still in to "trophy" P4P girls. What ever floats their boats. I'll take a 5 or 6 with a good attitude anyday over a 9 or 10 "You may adore me now" type :D Many of the 10s have sponsors and don't care to be bar fined anyway.
Indeed you are blessed. If everybody would be like you than the ugly ones would become the stunners and the stunners would be the unwanted.
You war lucky that you can enjoy average girls which make it easy for you to find your pleasure. Those, like I, whose needs beauty to get a thrill or sexual desire are doomed. But, I can't change that.
I guess those whose like fat girls, or gays, or ladyboys are also blessed. While the stupid mayority whose into model type girls have a hard stand.
... from a few days in Pattaya.
A few specific comments:
1) I'm always surprised the BeerGarden (just ouside Walking Street) is so quiet. It's a great place to sit and have breakfast, check emails (wifi enabled) or do a bit of work. Always very pleasant and friendly staff, but rarely any working girls!
2) I thought AngelWitch had some great shows - not hardcore like some, but actrually quite artistic and erotic. Went there a couple of times to enjoy the pleasant ambiance and it was always quite crowded (but always had room to sit).
3) The Hell Club has re-opened as Devil's Den under the same management and has some lovely girls...
4) I explored further away from Walking Street and was impressed by the quality of girls in the bars behind Second Road (particularly opposite Soi 10 area), and the almost total absence of farangs!
All in all, a very pleasant way to spend a few days, especially as the Pound was creeping up against the Baht.
I agree. A lot of guys are still in to "trophy" P4P girls. What ever floats their boats. I'll take a 5 or 6 with a good attitude anyday over a 9 or 10 "You may adore me now" type :D Many of the 10s have sponsors and don't care to be bar fined anyway.With me it's all about making a connection. If I find someone I can chat with and have a laugh, then that is fine by me. I also find that figure is more important than face. Having said all that, if you don't mind a bit of strolling around you can always find a 7-8 witha good attitude...
I'm always surprised the BeerGarden (just ouside Walking Street) is so quiet. It's a great place to sit and have breakfast, check emails (wifi enabled) or do a bit of work.
What you and Thai girls like are completely different things. The beer garden in pattaya will never draw a significant amount of girls because the concept can't work in Pattaya.
What you and Thai girls like are completely different things. The beer garden in pattaya will never draw a significant amount of girls because the concept can't work in Pattaya.
Would be helpful if you would add, why?
There are enough Freelancer in Pattaya whose could work there, for example the beach road girls. On the other hand side the beach road girls can sit at the beach road for free and in the Beergarden they would need to buy a drink, I guess. Also, from Beach road there is only a short walk to the various short time hotels.
What you and Thai girls like are completely different things. The beer garden in pattaya will never draw a significant amount of girls because the concept can't work in Pattaya.Well of course what I and Thai girls like are completely different, thank heavens. I've never fancied lying on my back being rogered by a fat sweaty farang...
But your second line is a bit dogmatic. Perhaps you would like to elaborate for the sake of simple mortals like myself? Perhaps you have a list of towns where the concept would work and a list of where it wouldn't? Would be very useful...
Would be helpful if you would add, why?
There are enough Freelancer in Pattaya whose could work there, for example the beach road girls. On the other hand side the beach road girls can sit at the beach road for free and in the Beergarden they would need to buy a drink, I guess. Also, from Beach road there is only a short walk to the various short time hotels.That's what I thought. And I believe there is some voucher scheme whereby girls can get a free drink - there's a notice on the wall but my Thai wasn't really up to it...
Personally I wouldn't take a freelancer from Beach Road because I like to have at least a little bit of conversation (and see the girl in reasonable lighting), whereas I would be very happy to chat to a girl in the BeerGarden to see if things click. But then perhaps I'm unusual in that respect in Pattaya...
The playgirl go-go bar with the shower is probably the best go go bar in Pattaya. My friend and I check out many and we like Playgirl for a combo- girls and drink prices.
It is located off one of those side soi as you are walking down Walking St. There are normally girls stand around with signs listing the bar name at the entrance to each alley.
I checked out Angelwitch, too. Although, I like it I thought the beer prices where high compare to playgirl. 150B here compare to 95B at Playgirl. Quality about the same. Better shows at Angelwitch.
A lot of guys are still in to "trophy" P4P girls.
I'm guilty of that; going for the stunners. Pay more money. May get good service. I guess I get good service enough times that I keep doing it. I've never had an absolutely horrible experience; some good, some bad. But that's been true with the "less-than-stunners" (admittedly maybe less so). Just pay less for the almost-beautiful.
Hello brethren! This was just a Hello, of sorts to the regulars who banter on this board, and a thank you for the practical advice. I'm going to be in Pattaya this weekend, Saturday-Monday, and would willingly spring for a round or two. Don't worry, I'm not some desperate, clueless noob looking to follow someone around. I'm just content to meet up and shoot the sh! T for a while.
I've been to Thailand several times and yet (amazingly! ) this is my first trip to Pattaya! I'm actually hoping the vibe will be a little different from the scene in BKK, for someone who is more melaninly inclined. I'm Canadian, but of mixed East Indian/African origin. So to Thais I'm labeled a "kek", and it's a completely different story compared to you "farangs". I joke with my white friends when we've travelled together that they legitimize me. With some pretty good results. That being said, I'm not on a sex mission, I'd like to take in the scene sure, but a run on the bars with the boys wouldn't be so bad.
If y'all gentlemen are so disposed, I'm open to suggestions as to time and place to meet. Apologies to Jackson, I let my subscription lapse, been on lockdown for a while here in Korea. But for the viewing public, reports will follow. Thanks again for the accumulated wisdom of these pages.
Personally I wouldn't take a freelancer from Beach Road because I like to have at least a little bit of conversation (and see the girl in reasonable lighting), whereas I would be very happy to chat to a girl in the BeerGarden to see if things click. But then perhaps I'm unusual in that respect in Pattaya...
Well, it's possible to see the FL on Beach road in a good light. They start early and the beach road has also good illumination. You can also chat with them while sitting on a bench, but I have to admit, that it can be annoying with all the people walking by. So, it isn't so convinient like the good old beergarden would be.
El Frances
06-10-09, 11:11
Hi! I just got back from Pattaya with lots of little stars shining in my eyes.
It's the first time I stayed more than a few days in Pattaya and has ben very impressed.
A lots of girls of any kind in Bars and Discos are available for 1000 THB LT (I usually gave them 200 THB tip), I mean also pretty girls in the 19-21 yo range, which is my target.
As it's low season, it's easy to get 2000 THB LT in most GoGos (probably less is also negotiable as there are so few customers).
It's the first time in my life in Thailand that I got:
100% of pretty girls to my taste (very easy to find,I had hard time choosing)
100% reasonnable LT price in the 1000 (Disco, bars) to 2000 (Go gos) range
100% wet pussies
100% no scam price by TukTuk or other drivers (10 THB with bathbus at any time of day or night).
I used to go to Phuket, and I will never go back there now that I have an in-depth experience of Pattaya
I used to go to Phuket, and I will never go back there now that I have an in-depth experience of Pattaya
i'll second that.
AsianRider
06-10-09, 15:50
i'll second that.I will third that. Been living here 2 years now. There's a constant stream of new girls in everyday. Town is hurting real bad at moment with lack of customers, which makes mongering a lot of fun and gives you the financial edge.
Hi! I just got back from Pattaya with lots of little stars shining in my eyes.
100% no scam price by TukTuk or other drivers (10 THB with bathbus at any time of day or night).
I used to go to Phuket, and I will never go back there now that I have an in-depth experience of PattayaYou were scammed. The fare is 5 Baht. It says it on the back of the drivers bulkhead.
Just in jest! I know we farangs pay 10. Why?
Glad you enjoyed Pattaya.
Would be helpful if you would add, why?
There are enough Freelancer in Pattaya whose could work there, for example the beach road girls. On the other hand side the beach road girls can sit at the beach road for free and in the Beergarden they would need to buy a drink, I guess. Also, from Beach road there is only a short walk to the various short time hotels.
It's simple really. What incentive is there for beach road girls to go there? Why would they give up all that walk by traffic to go sit in a dead bar/restaurant? The Beergarden offers working girls nothing in the way of benefits for them to walk into the establishment. Also, Pattaya is more or less about the nightlife, not the day life. Most working girls don't even wake up until after 4pm.
There concept: "There are no "bar girls", "bar fines" or "lady drinks" at the Pattaya Beer Garden. Independent ladies are welcome to meet foreigners in a non-threatening environment. It's our business to facilitate a pleasant meeting place, not to become involved in your private business" .
There really is no need or demand for a venue like this in Pattaya.
El Frances
06-10-09, 20:52
You were scammed. The fare is 5 Baht. It says it on the back of the drivers bulkhead.
Just in jest! I know we farangs pay 10. Why?
Glad you enjoyed Pattaya.
Well, 10 bath from and to Jomtien, even at 4 pm, isn't so bad!
Just in jest! I know we farangs pay 10. Why?
Most Thais pay 10 too. Have a look next time!
You were scammed. The fare is 5 Baht. It says it on the back of the drivers bulkhead.
Just in jest! I know we farangs pay 10. Why?
Glad you enjoyed Pattaya.
I was in Pattaya about a month ago. It had been a few years since I had been there so I asked the front desk clerk at my hotel what the fare on the baht bus was. She told me it was 20 baht! I observed everyone paying 10 so that's what I paid for the rest of my stay in Pattaya. It's cheap enough!
Also, Pattaya is more or less about the nightlife, not the day life. Most working girls don't even wake up until after 4pm.
You can find beach road girls almost on every time of the day on the beach road. At least it was my experience from last November. Also, in Soi 3 are a bar which opens before noon and has a quite pretty selection for the early bird. Also, there are Soi 6, Soi Post Office and Soi Bukaow which starts during daytime. So, Pattaya offers pretty much, even on daytime.
LittleBigMan
06-11-09, 05:27
This is just my personal opinion and observation with what goes on in Thailand and particularly in Pattaya since I also live here like many of you. I feel whatever the reasons for a individual or individuals to open a business like the Pattaya Beergarden get cheap or just don't or forget spending some to market the place after the place open. It seem like most just open the place to show off that they have some money but forget or have no business skill to promote the business. They seem to fall into the same trap as Thai's and that's bad because the completition is tough.
I have been to the Beergarden twice recently. I notice now that they have 2 guys holding signs in the front to advertise the place since it is in the back. I personally believe that although the Beergarden has a nice view the place is too large and spread out! My recent trip just last week found at least a Dozen Freelancers but they were spread out throughout the place which makes it hard to know who is who? I think there was a small bar in the front and a larger one in the middle. Most of the freelancer I could point out many gave me a look but couldn't tell whether I was a Farang looking for pussy or a cheap ass Thai.
As Amjeck, pointed out " What incentive " does a Freelancer on Beach Rd. to come to Beergarden? I look at the size of the Beergarden and the amount of food that they have to buy to support who might come to the place that goes wasted! Bring in the girls and feed them some simple dishes and have some finger food during happy hour. Bring in some pool and foos ball tables and get a large screen T.V. for sports programs around the world. You got to spend some money to make money and if you open the place like this and don't or can't spend the money instead of pouring down the drain then I suggest that you just don't open! There is a need and place like the Beergarden in Pattaya it's just this place is too large and spread out! I hope the owners see and read this! And if you need help just drop me a PM, I sure the others ISG members living here in Pattaya can help you guys out if you allow us to put our heads together!
LBM
You can find beach road girls almost on every time of the day on the beach road. At least it was my experience from last November. Also, in Soi 3 are a bar which opens before noon and has a quite pretty selection for the early bird. Also, there are Soi 6, Soi Post Office and Soi Bukaow which starts during daytime. So, Pattaya offers pretty much, even on daytime.
Beach road girls(dregs imo) only make up a small amount of the freelancers in Pattaya. Most freelancers are out at night because that is where the money is.
The other bars you mention above all pay the girls (not freelancers) a wage to be there.
Can you guys recommend a place in Pattya to find busty Thais? C Cup minimum, please. I don't care if they're bolted on or not. I'm planning a trip in March 2010. Gotta have the boobs, man! Much obliged!Howdy, d-cups. Looks like we have something in common here and glad to help out a fellow admirer of a voluptuous pair of tits. As you walk from beach rd. Toward second road about a third of the way down there is a rather nondescript bar with some tables out front and ac inside with rooms upstairs for coocheecoochee. I ran into a double d heifer I had seen and had to my hotel the year before from another club on soi 6. Sorry, forgot to mention that we are adventuring on Soi 6 which provides a variety of pleasures for sex adventurers during the day. The gal's name is "Oh" and you will say OH when you admire her front. She will not appeal to those who have been indoctrinated by American culture-ad photos, beauty contests, etc., etc. To believe that only emaciated, recently releasees from concentration camps looking types make for inherently attractive type. Oh is what I refer to as a "sport". She is willing to try almost anything in an attempt to please. She is on the pudgy side with a cute giggle. Unlike the go-go girls who often think their shit doesn't smell. Is eager to please and just fun to be with. She enjoyed dancing on the bed (with appropriate coaching from yours truly) and providing preparatory dick massages with a good cream she always brought along. Can well remember waking up to her licking my nipples and massaging old Hubert preparatory to the ensuing hour of romping in the hay. Oh was never eager to leave in the morning, frequently staying until elevenish when she had to get ready to report for work at 12. I miss sucking on her big succulent melons each morning upon awakening. Am coming to Pattaya in November and will definitely seek her out. If she is not in aforementioned bar she will probably be elsewhere along Soi 6. Will be looking forward to a report on this page if you do find her. Anybody else out there ever run into her and/or her to your nest? By the way her bar charges 1000 baht for her to leave early, but I never paid this I gave her 500 for an early release with her reporting for duty at my hotel around 8:30. Ran into two other big-titted gals in Angeles City as well.
Arkyboy
It's simple really. What incentive is there for beach road girls to go there? Why would they give up all that walk by traffic to go sit in a dead bar/restaurant? Well that's my point really, it is walk-by traffic, not stop and chat traffic...
I would not pick up a girl without having had a conversation with her, and I'm not willing to do that crouched on a concrete bench on Beach Road. Conversely I would be happy to sit in the BeerGarden and chat to any girls with a drink in my hand, but as you say it is relatively dead. So it's a vicious circle: few punters -> few girls -> fewer punters -> no girls... I agree with LBM that a little effective marketing would bring in the girls and reverse the cycle. Pattaya is crowded with girls, there must be a few who would rather sit in a pleasant environment and mingle with prospective customers, in the same way it works in Bangkok.
Most Thais pay 10 too. Have a look next time!I think you will find that Thais travelling alone or with other Thais will pay only 5 Baht. A Thai lady travelling with a farang would be expected to pay 10 Baht because by default the farang would be paying for her.
Anyway, the comment was made tongue in cheek as I aknowledged. 10 Baht from South Pattaya Road to Big C is a bargain in anybodies language.
Most Thais pay 10 too. Have a look next time! I think you will find that Thais travelling alone or with other Thais will pay only 5 Baht. A Thai lady travelling with a farang would be expected to pay 10 Baht because by default the farang would be paying for her.
Anyway, the comment was made tongue in cheek as I aknowledged. 10 Baht from South Pattaya Road to Big C is a bargain in anybodies language.
I will look for myself in 14 days time and I'm chomping at the bit. Visit # 24.
Anyway, the comment was made tongue in cheek as I aknowledged. 10 Baht from South Pattaya Road to Big C is a bargain in anybodies language.
I was there for 3 weeks in March staying at the Nova Platinum which is south of South Pattaya Road, and I took the baht bus to Big C nearly every day. Each time when I exited I paid 10 baht and had no problems except once with a lady driver.
As I got off the bus I handed her the usual 10 baht and she started screaming that the fare was 20 baht because of the heavy traffic. I really didn't understand what she was saying, but one of the other passengers translated for me. The driver was really making a scene in the middle of the street, and wasn't going to move her bus with the other passengers on board until I paid up. Rather than participate in a screaming match I handed her an additional 10 baht.
She pointed to the sign in the back of the bus, but unfortunately my comprehension of written Thai is nit noi, and I have no idea of what it said. Anyone here know the rules?
I was there for 3 weeks in March staying at the Nova Platinum which is south of South Pattaya Road, and I took the baht bus to Big C nearly every day. Each time when I exited I paid 10 baht and had no problems except once with a lady driver.
As I got off the bus I handed her the usual 10 baht and she started screaming that the fare was 20 baht because of the heavy traffic. I really didn't understand what she was saying, but one of the other passengers translated for me. The driver was really making a scene in the middle of the street, and wasn't going to move her bus with the other passengers on board until I paid up. Rather than participate in a screaming match I handed her an additional 10 baht.
She pointed to the sign in the back of the bus, but unfortunately my comprehension of written Thai is nit noi, and I have no idea of what it said. Anyone here know the rules?If they have the official one, then tere should be a sign saying its 10 Baht for a ride. But most took it down I guess. Its only 10 Baht, but its cheating a factor of two as well to the visitors. Give them 10.
The only time I give them 20 if they are ok drivers is if I go from beach road soi something all the way to Jomtien. Normally you would have to change close to walking street and then it would be 20 as well for 2 rides.
I have a bad sense of direction and I'm not good with public transport, so I mainly took scooter-taxis around the place - 40Baht (unless it was a girl I just picked up at walking Street - then it was a free ride on her scooter back to Nova Platinum, occasionally squeezed between two girls on the scooter - good fun). Damn cheap and not as scary as it looks.
I was there for 3 weeks in March staying at the Nova Platinum which is south of South Pattaya Road, and I took the baht bus to Big C nearly every day. Each time when I exited I paid 10 baht and had no problems except once with a lady driver.
As I got off the bus I handed her the usual 10 baht and she started screaming that the fare was 20 baht because of the heavy traffic. I really didn't understand what she was saying, but one of the other passengers translated for me. The driver was really making a scene in the middle of the street, and wasn't going to move her bus with the other passengers on board until I paid up. Rather than participate in a screaming match I handed her an additional 10 baht.
She pointed to the sign in the back of the bus, but unfortunately my comprehension of written Thai is nit noi, and I have no idea of what it said. Anyone here know the rules?
Fast Eddie 48
06-12-09, 00:55
I was there for 3 weeks in March staying at the Nova Platinum which is south of South Pattaya Road, and I took the baht bus to Big C nearly every day. Each time when I exited I paid 10 baht and had no problems except once with a lady driver.
As I got off the bus I handed her the usual 10 baht and she started screaming that the fare was 20 baht because of the heavy traffic. I really didn't understand what she was saying, but one of the other passengers translated for me. The driver was really making a scene in the middle of the street, and wasn't going to move her bus with the other passengers on board until I paid up. Rather than participate in a screaming match I handed her an additional 10 baht.
She pointed to the sign in the back of the bus, but unfortunately my comprehension of written Thai is nit noi, and I have no idea of what it said. Anyone here know the rules?David 2,
I always pay 10 bht for short trip but one time it was 1 am the bus was empty driver ask for 20bht, I don't want to argue on 10 bht so I just pay him again, it been 10 bht for over 12 yr with gas price is so high now 20 bht is not a big deal.
Fast Eddie 48
The police are at it again on Beach Road:
http://www.pattayaone.net/news/2009/june/news_11_06_52_4.shtml
It's a shame.
Axel Monger
06-12-09, 03:08
The police are at it again on Beach Road:
http://www.pattayaone.net/news/2009/june/news_11_06_52_4.shtml
It's a shame.Not really, it's just trickle-down economics. Ronnie would be proud!
Pattaya Baht bus fare is like this -
Jomtien to the intersection of Dtai and 2nd Road is 10B.
There to the dolphins (or places in between like Big C) is 10B. North of dolphins is another 10B out to the market - so let's say Jomtien to Naklua market = 30B
Up either intersection 2nd Dtai (south road), 2nd Klong (central), 2nd Nua (north) to Suk is 10B.
Never been to the darkside (other side of Suk) so I can't say anything about that.
It hasn't been 5B for anyone since about July 2008 when the gas prices went outa sight. C'mon people - I SPILL THAT MUCH AT HOME - what's the value haggling over a lousy 60 CENTS US (20B) (the exercise in currency conversion to other than $$US is left to the reader)
LittleBigMan
06-12-09, 06:10
I know this topic has been debated but if anyone is interested in taking private Thai language lesson in the Pattaya Tai, area near the Big C, off Sukhumvit give me a PM. I just trying to drum up some business for my teacher.
Thanks, LBM
Bloodstock
06-12-09, 06:43
Ah! Finally in Thailand, and now with wifi-access so I can have access to the bible that ISG is ;)
Having spent some days in Bangkok to begin with, I headed over to SoL(among other places) for some dirty exercise with two girls...and I have to say that the place appealed to me - or well, the concept.
My question is if there is any simillar place in Pattaya with more open spaces where one can enjoy all sorts of nasty things while satisfying any voyeur / exhibitionistic kinks one might have?
I know this topic has been debated but if anyone is interested in taking private Thai language lesson in the Pattaya Tai, area near the Big C, off Sukhumvit give me a PM. I just trying to drum up some business for my teacher.
Thanks, LBM
Same thing here, but it's in a small group 3 or 4 students per teacher, it's FREE. If your in San Diego send me a PM and I will hook you up, the classes are on Sunday afternoons.
RG.
My question is if there is any simillar place in Pattaya with more open spaces where one can enjoy all sorts of nasty things while satisfying any voyeur / exhibitionistic kinks one might have?
Girl in Soi 6 was jacking me off (stopping short of completion) for an hour while I'm groping her thoroughly. This is downstairs in the bar, it was the couch by the door too.
Lick bar in Soi 6 you sometimes have the spectacle of 3 or 4 heads bobbing over crotches on the neighbouring couches while relaxing with a cutie on your lap.
No extra charges for any of this, beyond buying a lady drink. (Well obviously if you want a bobbing head too it's 700 if I remember right.)
At Silver Star A Go Go in Soi 7 can take turns (with other customers and the other showgirl) eating pussy if you're not squeamish.
LittleBigMan
06-12-09, 12:24
I think Bloodstock refers to " open space " meaning beaches or countrysides where he can eat and fuck pussy without being disturbed or watching someone else do it.. Voyeur / exhibitionistic!
LBM
Bloodstock
06-12-09, 12:44
Rocksoff and LBM. You are actually both on spot. I was referring to more like a club / bar / whatever, but wouldn't mind finding a place like LBM spoke of either.
I'll go check some of those places out later. Am staying in a nearby soi, so. Quite close!
I think Bloodstock refers to " open space " meaning beaches or countrysides
Star of Light is on a beach?
Lately I've found the Beach Rd scene to be shut down often - no girls, lots of cops. The few girls I have run into have told me the roundups have started up again on a big scale. I saw something on TV about it as well.
I don't know if any of you remember those months a couple of years ago when there wasn't a girl on the beach most of the time, but perhaps we were too complacent about things loosening up since then. The other night I walked down the beach and there wasn't a single female - just a few gangs of young male thugs lurking around. So much safer for the tourist!
On a related note the town is utterly dead.
Hi
The recent conversation about Beergarden has me wondering where the freelancers in Pattaya hang out now that the Beach Road seems to shut down. Beergarden in Bangkok is a big favourite of mine and I much prefer the vibe from freelancers in discos, bars etc than go-gos.
Any suggestions appreciated.
Lately I've found the Beach Rd scene to be shut down often - no girls, lots of cops. The few girls I have run into have told me the roundups have started up again on a big scale. I saw something on TV about it as well.
I don't know if any of you remember those months a couple of years ago when there wasn't a girl on the beach most of the time, but perhaps we were too complacent about things loosening up since then. The other night I walked down the beach and there wasn't a single female - just a few gangs of young male thugs lurking around. So much safer for the tourist!
On a related note the town is utterly dead.Just a thought. Could the bar and gogo owners be encouraging the crackdown to drive customers into their establishments?
...The recent conversation about Beergarden has me wondering where the freelancers in Pattaya hang out now that the Beach Road seems to shut down..
I should clarify that its not as bad as it was a couple of years ago - yet. The girls are just limited to certain times of day when the cops aren't out, and must be ready to run away at any moment.
The other night when there were no girls on the beach, I looked on Walking Street to see if any of them went there - but no, I didn't see more than half a dozen girls who looked like freelancers there, and none of the beach road type. I remember last time even when the Beach really was shut down tight, I never saw those girls in Walking Street. It was like they just disappeared (perhaps many or most of them were in jail for a few months).
I don't think its all that likely we'll see a Beergarden style establishment take the place of the Beach, since for example the Beergarden in Bangkok only ever has a few girls in it. The Beach used to have hundreds in its hayday.
Where precisely on the Beach rd do the girls hang out? Just had a read, minutes after release the girls returned to work Beach rd and recoupe lost wages:D
Where precisely on the Beach rd do the girls hang out? Just had a read, minutes after release the girls returned to work Beach rd and recoupe lost wages:D
Basically the whole length of Beach Road from Walking Street to Pattaya Klang Road, and beyond.
I might add that you can usually find girls there 24 hours a day.
I know that Pete the owner of the Pattaya Beer Garden is pro-active in his attempts to get freelancers into his bar.
When he first opened he offered them free food in the form of a walk up Som Tam prep area. When that didn't work he tried giving them a lottery ticket with cash prizes for attending. He has also remodeled the bar so the freelancers that turned up had their own meeting ares so there was no confussion as to who was who.
It still hasn't dragged the girls in although the bar on it's own seems to be thriving. Cheap beer and decent food seems to outweigh the lack of girls. All in all PBG is a good bar.
You've got to admire Petes tenacity with the freelancer concept. He tred it at the FLB and it failed but for a time left a pretty good bar as I think will happen with the PBG.
As for any lock down on Beach Road, that will be like any other Police initiative in Pattaya ie short lived. Remember them cleaning up Soi 6 a few months back. Zero effect 1 week on.
If there are no freelancers on the beach during the day then just look in the RGP or the Avenue or Tops they will be there. On a night they will be in the Best Friends or Siren or Simon complexes. Many beer bars have freelancers in their bars.
Basically the whole length of Beach Road from Walking Street to Pattaya Klang Road, and beyond.
I might add that you can usually find girls there 24 hours a day.
Alas not late at night the last couple of nights. No more than half a dozen girls out after the sweeps, hiding in the PS Guesthouse area. And some ladyboys of course. But one thing's for sure, in these sweeps times anything desirable runs away in fear, leaving only the absolute worst (most desperate).
It is very sad as Pattaya isn't much good without this scene.
I took the trouble to sit and observe one of the round-ups the other night. There were a great many police on motorbikes going both ways on the beach promenade, as well as going the 'legal' way on the actual beach road, accompanied by police trucks and paddy wagons. These were almost all 'real' police - the brown shirted thugs rather than the black shirted thugs.
During this particular sweep they caught very few girls as there were almost none on the beach - it was about 1:00 AM and had apparently been preceeded by many sweeps earlier in the evening. Girls I talked to and other locations reported that the sweeps began somewhere between 10:00 and 11:00, and continued till dawn.
These same girls reported that they had been forced to pay at times the 'legal' amount - which is just 100 baht - while at other times they had been required to pay 500 or 1,000. They did not understand why the amounts differed. Other girls reported that the police simply took whatever they had on them and kicked them loose without taking them to the station. All the girls seemed very fearful and shaken, and said that a few months in jail was a very real possibility for them.
After observing these dismaying events I repaired to Walking Street to see if anything had materialized there, but as usual there were no freelancers there, other than ladyboys.
LittleBigMan
06-14-09, 16:14
See if the Beergarden owners had any fucking brains they would take care of this freelancer since the place is right there and out of sight of all the tourist on beach road. The city official and police are doing sweep most likely because they are now so many of them and it is becoming unsightly for the tourist. Plus those crazy ladyboys that are causing so many problems that you see on T.V. each night is screwing up things for everyone.
In the end, we think these girls are freelancers they do have pimps from time to time. This time it's the police! Round them up and take what they can get that just extra money for them after their shift it Chang Beer time. You stay long enough and once a week you see a guy come into a bar or snooker place that look like a cop in plain clothes and get his protection money! It's sad situation like whenever school tuition is to pay. The cops are out in force stopping everyone for not wearing their helmets.
LBM
Frankfurter
06-14-09, 17:33
What's the current year you have to check on a Beach Rd. FL's ID to be legal? Thanks.
Plus those crazy ladyboys that are causing so many problems that you see on T.V. each night is screwing up things for everyone.
Its hardly fair to blame those transgendered gentlemen, LBM. They're just there providing a service to people that want it.
Regarding the police actions I shall not waste the reader's time with any social theory, but instead just relate observations. The sweeps begin promptly at 9:00PM, but the girls don't seem to take them deadly serious until 11:00. So basically lots of girls, including some good looking ones out before nine, then a few substandard ones braving it out from 9 to 11, and then virtually no girls from 11 onwards. On either side of the beach road.
Some girls who seem fairly level headed and speak English well reported it to me this way - initially this program started a couple weeks ago with the usual 100 baht fines, then a few days later they were raised to 500, and then 1,000, and as of today they were publicized as 2,000 baht. Of course most girls paid the 100-500 baht fines, but the 1,000-2,000 baht ones mean jail time because most girls don't have access to that much. The girls told me that the police explained to them that the fines translated into 200 baht per day, so at present 10 days in jail for anyone under suspicion of prostitution. These same girls reported to me that this crusade is a pet project of 'the big boss' - presumably meaning the 'mayor' or whatever equivalent they have here.
What's the current year you have to check on a Beach Rd. FL's ID to be legal? Thanks.
Hah, dude, if you can find any girl on the Beach that doesn't look at least 30+ and haggard, my hats off to you! Have you ever seen this venue?
Frankfurter
06-14-09, 20:34
Hah, dude, if you can find any girl on the Beach that doesn't look at least 30+ and haggard, my hats off to you! Have you ever seen this venue?[/QUOTE
Hey, that's funny, actually I've seen the scene a few years back, and wasn't impressed at all, agreeing with your assessment. But after so many upbeat ISG reports lately about Beach Rd. being transformed into some kind of runway for "LOS' Search for the Next Super Star" I was honestly confused. Thanks for bringing everything back into perspective.
As for any lock down on Beach Road, that will be like any other Police initiative in Pattaya ie short lived. Remember them cleaning up Soi 6 a few months back. Zero effect 1 week on.
I'm not so blase, Woodman - a couple of years ago they managed to shut the Beach scene down tight for many months. If I remember rightly it was roughly a full year. And for a long time after that it was still just dribs and drabs. Even in the recent period of non-harassment we've never gotten up to the numbers and quality like it was in the hayday of say 2000-2004.
If there are no freelancers on the beach during the day then just look in the RGP or the Avenue or Tops they will be there. On a night they will be in the Best Friends or Siren or Simon complexes. Many beer bars have freelancers in their bars.
What's RGP? Or the Avenue? And do you mean Tops supermarket? They'll be in the supermarket? Somehow I'm skeptical. By the way the girls specified that they would get busted also on Walking street, Second road, or anywhere else they were found to be selling sex.
I'm also unfamiliar with Best Friends, Siren, and Simon, but are they discos? Its interesting but I have almost never seen a Beach road girl in any other venue - its like different groups inhabit discos, etc. (And I've never liked the disco type of freelancer).
I'm not so blase, Woodman - a couple of years ago they managed to shut the Beach scene down tight for many months.
I can't imagine that the dozens of hotels and hundreds of bars and other businesses along Pattaya Beach Road are pleased with this crackdown. It's the working girls who bring the tourists there to fill up the hotels and patronize the bars and shops. The surest way to turn Pattaya into a ghost town is to chase away the FL's on the beach.
What's RGP? Or the Avenue? And do you mean Tops supermarket?...I'm also unfamiliar with Best Friends, Siren, and Simon, but are they discos?...
RGP is Royal Garden Plaza; the Avenue is a high end shopping mall on Second Road opposite Soi 13/1; Tops is indeed the supermarket at the corner of Second Road and Pattaya Klang; Simon is a beer bar complex on Walking Street across from Tony's disco; and I believe that Best Friends and Siren are also beer bar complexes.
I've seen a few, but not many, FL's plying their trade at these locations.
LittleBigMan
06-15-09, 04:47
Opebo,
That's funny! LB do provide a service but a few come on too strong and can't take no for a answer gives the others a bad name.
next time ask the girls who the mayor really is? Who is his father? When he ran for election to be mayor everyone including the fish knew he was going to win. He has a vision and right now it's to turn Pattaya into a tourist destination for families so too many freelancers on beach rd. doesn't fit into his vision. Not only that he's waiting for the big payoff to allow the first Gambling casino in Jomtien Beach ( Thailand ) he already got money approve to fix the harbor for luxury liners to dock in the future. What a Monte Carlos in Thailand. Now the Mayor is a good guy has to be he went to school in San Francisco, Golden Gate College my hometown. But his dad who is the godfather isn't going to allow him to close the the family busy just because he has a vision. Sorry Uncle..you understand Farang have big mouth.
As noted, the Avenue, is across from 13/1 just up front beach rd. it is a high end mall but has a open circle courtyard so the girls hang there until the sweep is over.
LBM
Last night Walking Street seemed to be full of freelancers, well into the night. I didn't go onto Beach Road, but even at 4 in the morning there were still some women waiting around.
Anyone travelling alone and up for a round or two, or a tour of the bars?
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What's RGP? Or the Avenue? And do you mean Tops supermarket? They'll be in the supermarket? Somehow I'm skeptical. By the way the girls specified that they would get busted also on Walking street, Second road, or anywhere else they were found to be selling sex.
I'm also unfamiliar with Best Friends, Siren, and Simon, but are they discos? Its interesting but I have almost never seen a Beach road girl in any other venue - its like different groups inhabit discos, etc. (And I've never liked the disco type of freelancer).As said, RGP is the Royal Garden Plaza. If you want younger freelancers just look at the girls hanging about over the balconys on level 2 and 3. They usually hang about on the Beach opposite the main entrance and outside McDonalds and Burger King but will head indoors if the weather or the BIB force them to. The older freelancers walk the mall window shopping.
The Avenue is a shopping area on #2 road. It has girls that hang about outside Starbucks and McDonalds.
Tops is the supermarket at Klang and #2. Head for the food court for the working girls in there.
Best Friends is a complex of 15+ bars just south of the RGP inland side of Beach Road. Simon is indeed opposite Mikes disco. It is another complex of bars. Siren is the complex of bars outside The Pattaya Beer Garden. You have to walk down the side of the complex to get into the PBG.
That may be one of the reasons that the freelancers are not using the bar. They have to run the gauntlet of the girls in the beer bars in the Siren. There is a lot of hostility towards the freelancers from the girls who think they are loosing their customers to the girls using Petes bar.
Wow, that is a high recommendation. Sort of like Thaksin (allegedly) graduating from Sam Houston State College in Huntsville, Texas. Can't anybody in this freakin' country get into a decent university?Where have you been? Golden Gate College is one of our country's best institutions of higher learning,almost as well-reputed as my alma mater,UCLA.
I can't imagine that the dozens of hotels and hundreds of bars and other businesses along Pattaya Beach Road are pleased with this crackdown.
Really? I think they're highly pleased as the freelancers 'pester' the tourists, and make Pattaya a poor destination for the 'family' tourist. But seriously I do think everyone despises the freelancers - especially bars as they want to pimp out their own girls instead.
I've seen a few, but not many, FL's plying their trade at these locations.
Yeah in practice they can't operate in the malls and such anymore as security throws them out and/or the cops arrest them. Policing is way more serious as time goes by. I never see any girls in front of Royal Garden, for ages now.
...He has a vision and right now it's to turn Pattaya into a tourist destination for families...
As noted, the Avenue, is across from 13/1 just up front beach rd. it is a high end mall but has a open circle courtyard so the girls hang there until the sweep is over.
Yeah, the mayor has the same vision that everyone has had for Pattaya for ten years now. As for the Avenue, why would that venue allow prostitutes to hang out there? They have security, and in any case the cops will definitely come and arrest them if they go there. The girls told me the cops arrest them on second road, beach road, and walking street.
Bold Focker
06-15-09, 23:11
This girl works or did work between soi 7 and 8. From second road head down soi 8 and take the first right. she work the corner bar on the right.
I.ve not done her but my friend did. dont think it went too well! but i got on alright with her. She has been there for a couple of years. bar fine was 450 bth. think she wanted 1500 ST.
Howdy, d-cups. Looks like we have something in common here and glad to help out a fellow admirer of a voluptuous pair of tits. As you walk from beach rd. Toward second road about a third of the way down there is a rather nondescript bar with some tables out front and ac inside with rooms upstairs for coocheecoochee. I ran into a double d heifer I had seen and had to my hotel the year before from another club on soi 6. Sorry, forgot to mention that we are adventuring on Soi 6 which provides a variety of pleasures for sex adventurers during the day. The gal's name is "Oh" and you will say OH when you admire her front. She will not appeal to those who have been indoctrinated by American culture-ad photos, beauty contests, etc., etc. To believe that only emaciated, recently releasees from concentration camps looking types make for inherently attractive type. Oh is what I refer to as a "sport". She is willing to try almost anything in an attempt to please. She is on the pudgy side with a cute giggle. Unlike the go-go girls who often think their shit doesn't smell. Is eager to please and just fun to be with. She enjoyed dancing on the bed (with appropriate coaching from yours truly) and providing preparatory dick massages with a good cream she always brought along. Can well remember waking up to her licking my nipples and massaging old Hubert preparatory to the ensuing hour of romping in the hay. Oh was never eager to leave in the morning, frequently staying until elevenish when she had to get ready to report for work at 12. I miss sucking on her big succulent melons each morning upon awakening. Am coming to Pattaya in November and will definitely seek her out. If she is not in aforementioned bar she will probably be elsewhere along Soi 6. Will be looking forward to a report on this page if you do find her. Anybody else out there ever run into her and/or her to your nest? By the way her bar charges 1000 baht for her to leave early, but I never paid this I gave her 500 for an early release with her reporting for duty at my hotel around 8:30. Ran into two other big-titted gals in Angeles City as well.
Arkyboy
Really? I think they're highly pleased as the freelancers 'pester' the tourists, and make Pattaya a poor destination for the 'family' tourist. But seriously I do think everyone despises the freelancers - especially bars as they want to pimp out their own girls instead...
Well, if you are right, we can all say goodbye to the FL scene on Beach Road, and those businesses can say goodbye to the tourists. They should be careful of what they wish for.
Pattaya is not a 'family' destination -- Jomtien, maybe, but not Pattaya.
Wanderer1000
06-16-09, 03:00
Has anybody used this service? Reliable experience?
How is the nightlife on soi 8 and soi 6 after Beach Rd crackdown?
Is still the same?
This girl works or did work between soi 7 and 8. From second road head down soi 8 and take the first right. she work the corner bar on the right.
I.ve not done her but my friend did. dont think it went too well! but i got on alright with her. She has been there for a couple of years. bar fine was 450 bth. think she wanted 1500 ST.
Hummm... 1950 baht ST seems a bit expensive for an over the hill beer bar bimbo with a #5 face, fake tits, and a bad attitude, but to each his own.
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=116358
(Unrelated gratutious thought): There have never been many #10's on this planet, but it's a sure thing that EVERY woman on earth, provided she lives long enough, will become a #1. :)
(Unrelated gratutious thought): There have never been many #10's on this planet, but it's a sure thing that EVERY woman on earth, provided she lives long enough, will become a #1. :)
Absolutely brilliant!
And after they pass the age of 23 their rating drops by 2 points. Old is ugly!
Absolutely brilliant!
And after they pass the age of 23 their rating drops by 2 points. Old is ugly!
Thank God we all remain just as handsome as we were in our prime ;)
How is the nightlife on soi 8 and soi 6 after Beach Rd crackdown?
Is still the same?
Just arrived in Pattaya, had a walk along the beach road and the new shopping mall.
Shopping mall is stunning, but low business.
Beach Road is packed with working girls. Though majority is east of that what I like. But, a few gems are also there.
Soi 6 is packed with girls. Never saw so much girls in Soi 6 and beach road.
Has anybody used this service? Reliable experience?
I've used them 4 times in the past 9 months, and they're just great. Very reliable...their driver waits for you at the airport with a sign, and you're in Pattaya an hour and a half later. Also had them pick me up at my hotel in Pattaya when I left, and they were always on time or early. None of the drivers I had spoke any English, but that wasn't a problem for me. I just pointed to the departure sign of my airline. I highly recommend. Cost is 1100 Baht, and they always seem to be pleased with a 100 Baht tip.
Has anybody used this service? Reliable experience?
1100(including toll) from airport to Pat is pretty good price. I just got a taxi from nana area to pattaya for 1000. Bargain hard guys! Thais are hurting a bit at the moment.
Last night Walking Street seemed to be full of freelancers, well into the night.
Yep business as usual and no shortage of johns either. Good meat is still getting grabbed early and most gogo girls are still trying for 1500 ST. Only thing that will kill the market here is another airport closure. Amazing how the strong baht, bad world economy, and swine flu doesn't effect the sex trade!
Arkyboy, what a great find! I am putting you in for the Annual Big Boob Bangers Award! I'll check in with you after your November trip because I'm going to Bangkok and Pattya in March 2010.
Tell us more about these Angleles City finds, too, please, in that thread. Much obliged!D-cups, could not tell if you actually found her (Oh) or you were looking forward to her with anticipation. Please let me know if you found her along with as much elaboration as you care to write. Glad my communique worked. Arkyboy
Wanderer1000
06-17-09, 03:08
Amjeck and David 2,
Thanks for the support on a newbie question. A little question like this is a big question when you're going somewhere new. I always like to feel secure to and from an airport wherever I'm traveling. After 24 hours of traveling, I'm sure it will feel good to see my name on a sign with some reliable references.
Yep business as usual and no shortage of johns either. Good meat is still getting grabbed early and most gogo girls are still trying for 1500 ST. Only thing that will kill the market here is another airport closure. Amazing how the strong baht, bad world economy, and swine flu doesn't effect the sex trade!
Indeed I got the same impression yesterday. The Bars and walking street were full, as well as the after hour discos.
What I didn't saw was the big groups of Chinese package tourists which one could see in former times quite often, walking up and down walking street.
But, it's true the bars were not as crowded like in last November, but also the number of girls in the bars, especially the stunners is lower than last November.
Though the numbers of Freelancer seems still quite high. So, that's my usual hunting ground and the after hour discos are still great places to hunt, imho.
What I didn't saw was the big groups of Chinese package tourists which one could see in former times quite often, walking up and down walking street.
.......especially the stunners is lower than last November.
Looks like the chinese have been replaced by the Arabs.
Yes, far less stunners.
Looks like the chinese have been replaced by the Arabs.
Yes, far less stunners.
I guess the stunners went to greener hunting grounds. Maybe HK, Singapore, Japan, Korea, VAE, other Gulf Staats, etc.
Clubs which were in November top, like Peppermind, Happy, Heavens Above, Living Dolls Agogo disappoint now regarding stunning chicks.
Good places are now Air Port Agogo, What's Up and of course Insomnia Disco.
But, also Beach Road and Soi 6 are full of chicks.
So, all in all I like Pattaya at the moment. Stunners can be find at afterhours Discos. Had yesterday one from Insomnia. She has a sponsors but he pay not enough and so she still goes working. Most likely she still goes working even when she got enough money from her Sponsor. Though a Thai /Isaan girl will in the most cases spend the money she has immediatly and needs a constant flow of money.;-)
Primo Bolan
06-17-09, 14:12
"But, also Beach Road and Soi 6 are full of chicks."
What about soi 8?
"But, also Beach Road and Soi 6 are full of chicks."
What about soi 8?
I wasn't there, but I will try to be there tomorrow. Now I will go, already late to Soi LK Metro.
Hah, dude, if you can find any girl on the Beach that doesn't look at least 30+ and haggard, my hats off to you! Have you ever seen this venue?
Every time I read a post on this forum and others from someone telling about the cutie/hottie/stunner he went with on BR for 500 baht, I immediately put them in a category of not trusting their taste and definitely questioning their sanity! I have walked up BR probably 100 times over the past 2 years and never - and I mean never - seen a girl that I would remotely consider going with. But then look at the guys on BR who are hitting on the girls and you realize that they are even worse.
1100(including toll) from airport to Pat is pretty good price. I just got a taxi from nana area to pattaya for 1000. Bargain hard guys! Thais are hurting a bit at the moment.I think you can get a car from the airport to Pattaya for 1000Bht without bartering. I did, although realised later that it was just some bloke with a car who was driving back home anyway... Probably not a smart thing to do in hindsight.
NEP to Pattaya for 1000Bht sounds like a good price.
...I have walked up BR probably 100 times over the past 2 years and never - and I mean never - seen a girl that I would remotely consider going with. But then look at the guys on BR who are hitting on the girls and you realize that they are even worse.
Hah, its funny - my derogatory comment about those girls looks most certainly did not mean I eschew their services!
Anyway, the girls in the bars and even some go-gos aren't that much better. Pattaya's just generally not the town for looks. Service, yes, but not looks.
Good places are now Air Port Agogo, What's Up and of course Insomnia Disco.
Airport is a fun club with good energy, but the girls are asking way too much; 2000 ST. When a pattaya girl quotes a price like this to a local like me, I take it as an insult. It's Pattaya not BKK. I've never heard prices like this quoted from any girl anywhere in Pattaya until the beginning of 2008. Things have changed a lot in Pattaya, unfortunately. There are still bargains to be had, but it's requires a bit more effort than before.
Hah, its funny - my derogatory comment about those girls looks most certainly did not mean I eschew their services!
Anyway, the girls in the bars and even some go-gos aren't that much better. Pattaya's just generally not the town for looks. Service, yes, but not looks.
Indeed much shadow and not much light, but that makes the hunt interesting. I admit that I had one or two times a beach road girl. Well, I would really not rate them over 7/10. And 90 % of the women there are below 5/10.
Ok, some update about beach road. At dusk is the best time, after 21 o'clock the beach road is almost empty. Seems that the girls leave the area after it gets dark. Saw some on the side streets, walking street and in front of Royal Garden Plasa.
Saw also some young girls who are not too bad, but of course no stunner at all.
Better looking girls are difficult to find even in the Gogos. 95% of the girls there are below 7/10. The best looking creatures are the Russian female tourists (not the CIS/Middle Eastern Hookers) and the ladyboys. I have no prejudice against LB, but to sleep with a "girl" who still has a dick, or had a dick is for me a no go.
Nevertheless one can have big fun in Pattaya. About 99% of the girls are aproachable are even they make the first step. So, it's a big Ego boost, well some should know that the money and not the look is the reason, but nevertheless.
Today I had a very interesting night. Saw a really nice girl in Papagalo in Soi LK Metro. She a Service girl I found her very sexy. Just I didn't want to pay the 1000 Bhat Barfine and so I got her telefon Number and will have her for a short time tomorrow noon.
In Insomnia Disco I met a bunch of black girls from Madagascar. It's strange they come now to Thailand to work.... In walking street I met an black Brazilian Hooker. At least she told that she is from Brazil. Also, very much CIS woman (guess from Usbecistan or Kachastan).
So, WS becomes really international.
In Insomnia Disco I met a bunch of black girls from Madagascar. It's strange they come now to Thailand to work.... In walking street I met an black Brazilian Hooker.
This is interesting!
Can you elaborate more? What were the prices? Looks? Ages? etc.
JesseJames
06-18-09, 00:25
Hah, its funny - my derogatory comment about those girls looks most certainly did not mean I eschew their services!
Anyway, the girls in the bars and even some go-gos aren't that much better. Pattaya's just generally not the town for looks. Service, yes, but not looks.
Beach Road Girls rule. I never come away empty handed and rate most 100% for service. If you can't find one lovely girl, out of the hundreds out there, you must be prejudiced against them.
This is interesting!
Can you elaborate more? What were the prices? Looks? Ages? etc.
Well, I didn't asked the girls from Madagascar how much they charge, but the Barzilian one was asking for 1000 Baht (I guess short time).
The Madagascar girls about 5 or 6 I saw first in WS and later in Insomnia. Well, there were no stunner but if someone wants a little change from Thais than the Madagascar girls might be a good change.
The Brazilian one told me a little story.
She told me that her Friend (Brazilian girl) is living in Pattaya with her English husband. The Brazilian girl is Black a bit chubby has coloured contact lens which made her eyes blue.
According her she lives in Hard Rock Hotel and will leave this morning for Phuket. She was walking a short range with me when I was going back to my Hotel. She couldn't walk very well in her high heals. Seems that it was very painful for her. Anyway I wasn't in the mood for a short time, even when the price 1000 Baht sounds good and I always like girls with big asses. Also, she spoke very good English and I couldn't recognize a Brazilian accent, so it might be just a lie that she is from Brazil.
Slackerslacker
06-18-09, 15:56
I have walked up BR probably 100 times over the past 2 years and never - and I mean never - seen a girl that I would remotely consider going with. You define hyperbole. 100 laps on BR and never seen one "remotely" do-able girl? You may question some guys' sanity but I question your eyesight.
I'm the pickiest guy I know, and I've picked up some treasures on BR.
I have walked up BR probably 100 times over the past 2 years and never - and I mean never - seen a girl that I would remotely consider going with. .
I've been walking the walk on and off for over 20 years - sometimes just "window shopping" and on other occasions out to make a purchase. Whilst the quality was better years ago, albeit with fewer girls, I have never had a problem finding a do-able girl when I wanted one, and the service provided always matched or exceeded my wishes.
I'm the pickiest guy I know, and I've picked up some treasures on BR.
I'm pickier than thou.;-)
I often walk the line and even when the majority of the girls on BR are old, horizontally challenged and chubby some gems can be found.
Albeit the beach road shopping is not the best venue, since the most girls just sitting around and so it's difficult to see if she has a nice body. Some girls, especially the younger ones have nice faces, but for me it's important to see if she has a sexy body as well.
If somebody do serious do find a girl at beach road than he has to invest some time, to find a pretty one.
"But, also Beach Road and Soi 6 are full of chicks."
What about soi 8?Witnessed last night about 9pm another crackdown on beach road. Two pickup trucks loaded with girls. Undercover cops all over.
Also, it was as empty as Ive ever seen in the gogos. I guess all the factors are adding up and hitting here hard. A couple of longtimers told me this was the fewest customers in recent memory, but Insomnia PACKED w/talent late night.
Crazy4Thai
06-19-09, 15:39
[QUOTEI have walked up BR probably 100 times over the past 2 years and never - and I mean never - seen a girl that I would remotely consider going with. But then look at the guys on BR who are hitting on the girls and you realize that they are even worse.[/QUOTE]
DRRONIN
Please, let me be the last to disagree with you.
There be treasure there Matey!
I'm reminded of the time I cruised the stroll in "the bad place" to quote another member, WISHING I could find something HALF as good as BR.
As we all become more jaded, do not forget - there is good pussy here,including BR, and YOU CAN HAVE IT!
C4T
Witnessed last night about 9pm another crackdown on beach road. Two pickup trucks loaded with girls. Undercover cops all over.
Thanks for the update Nocal. The last time this stuff really got going there were months on end of essentially nothing on the beach, all day long. I'm thinking I won't return to Pattaya until I hear some news that's things have changed, if ever (I'm not holding my breath).
JesseJames
06-19-09, 22:15
Thanks for the update Nocal. The last time this stuff really got going there were months on end of essentially nothing on the beach, all day long. I'm thinking I won't return to Pattaya until I hear some news that's things have changed, if ever (I'm not holding my breath).
Those guys who dig Beach Road girls, as I do, might consider boycotting Pattaya bars and hotels.
Those guys who dig Beach Road girls, as I do, might consider boycotting Pattaya bars and hotels.
Yes, that's what they want.
Witnessed last night about 9pm another crackdown on beach road. Two pickup trucks loaded with girls. Undercover cops all over.
Also, it was as empty as Ive ever seen in the gogos. I guess all the factors are adding up and hitting here hard. A couple of longtimers told me this was the fewest customers in recent memory, but Insomnia PACKED w/talent late night.
My observation is that the beach road is full with hookers on daytime, but almost empty after dark. So, maybe the police don't want too much puplicity about their actions on daytime, or they want reduce the competition for the walking street venues.
Anyway it's true there are pretty girls at beach road. My tatic yesterday were I asked for the telefon numbers from the interesting girls in case that I want to take her later. Yesterday I were not horny since the girl from the night before had me totally drained.
Insomnia was very full yesterday. I think the place is too small for such a crowd. Nummerous waiter and waitresses whose are always on the prowl makes the traffic inside not better.
My observation is that the beach road is full with hookers on daytime, but almost empty after dark. So, maybe the police don't want too much puplicity about their actions on daytime, or they want reduce the competition for the walking street venues.Agreed. Seems to me that they want to concentrate most of the fun to walking street. I did notice some fl's on WS but they are very discreet. Mid to late afternoon beach rd has a few (very few) gems, but mostly nill at night.
Most Beer bars are next to empty except for the Wonderful's and around Sois 7-8.
Papagoyo (sp? ) on Soi Diana Inn (? ) has some real stunners for those who demand quality. BF is HIGH at 1k, but quality again is strong for here. Coyote style and has a nice, lounge like feel.
PLENTY of lookers at all of the top gogo's just not alot of customers. 2k long time max, IMO.
I am currently visiting Pattaya, after having spent 2 days in Bangkok. I have been readig this forum and have to say that I don't understand all the negative reports about low quality girls and high prices. I was in two bars in Pattaya second road between soi 6 and 7. One was called tiger bar and the other was just next to it I don't remember the name. I about 3 or 4 girls in each bar that I would rate as 7-9 and prices were 300 baht barfine and 500 ST, 1000 LT. The girls I spoke to were about 18-22 years old.
One of the girls, I would rate her at least a 7, was enthusiastic, lots of kissing, CBJ (didn't ask for BBBJ) etc., sex was average. And she spoke almost no english. The other girl was I would rate a 9, spoke english very good, and was very enthusiastic. Lots of kissing and BBBJ.
In my experiences in Pattaya have been much better than in Bangkok, in terms of quality/price. Just my humble opinion.
Those guys who dig Beach Road girls, as I do, might consider boycotting Pattaya bars and hotels.And do what instead.?
The freelancers will not have disappeared but relocated. Sit out side Mikes at the end of Artist Street for half an hour and see how many times the same girls stroll past you.
Many gals out today along the BR in the mid afternoon.
Daytime seems to be THE time.
Fast Eddie 48
06-21-09, 02:41
Many gals out today along the BR in the mid afternoon.
Daytime seems to be THE time.NOCAL,
How can they get any buisness during the day ,you can see how damn ugly they are and you not too drunk to pick them up during the day.
Fast eddie 48
You define hyperbole. 100 laps on BR and never seen one "remotely" do-able girl? You may question some guys' sanity but I question your eyesight.
I'm the pickiest guy I know, and I've picked up some treasures on BR.
If you say so. Perhaps my timing is bad but I have never seen a woman that I would do for free on BR - old, tired, scarred and marred- there is a reason they are only asking for 500 baht. But everyone I admit has different taste - some folks like their women that way. And if you are living in Pattaya on a low budget I suppose it makes sense - but what really astonishes me is the guys who pay a load to get here, stay in a decent hotel, drink buckets of booze and then pride themselves by saving money by taking a BR girl. Good lord, you are in a city with thousands of young go-go girls - and you come to Thailand to screw a BR girl? That is insanity to me.
Sorry but would have to agree with Slacker. I too have pulled some incredibly beautiful, clean and sexy young women off of beach road over the years. I just like it as an option as there are many in Pattaya. In the end, to each his own.
Just my 2 cents.
I am currently visiting Pattaya, after having spent 2 days in Bangkok. I have been readig this forum and have to say that I don't understand all the negative reports about low quality girls and high prices. I was in two bars in Pattaya second road between soi 6 and 7.
In my experiences in Pattaya have been much better than in Bangkok, in terms of quality/price. Just my humble opinion.
YMMV is the key when reading any report on this forum as you’ve experienced. However, I agree with those who find BR girls to be scary. I have been up and down that road many times and can count on one hand anything close to what I would consider a suitable catch. Despite that, some of them do have pleasant and engaging personalities but for me, esthetic does play a large part in who I pick up.
NOCAL,
How can they get any buisness during the day ,you can see how damn ugly they are and you not too drunk to pick them up during the day.
Fast eddie 48Not exactly a beauty pageant ;)
Really not my cup of tea pulling along BR, but I would think daytime hunting makes the most sense for the reasons you just mentioned. Why get a suprise back at the room? Also notice many YOUNG gals and would question if they are old enough.
As silly as it may seem, perhaps some nouveau Beach Road mongers, inadvertently, spend "beyond their budgets" for all the reasons you mentioned (airfare, hotel, liquor, etc.) and find that Beach Road is all they can afford!
To "weigh in" on the Beach Road quality issue, I, having walked Beach Road from, I think, 2nd (where the "Dolphin Monument" is) until the Walking Street, twice a day (morning and evening), last summer for almost 30 days.
I grant you that quality, compared to the SPs of Pattaya Bars and GoGos, is sadly lacking, especially during the day but, in the evening/night, there were truly some "hotties" available that were comparable to the SPs of Bars/GoGos and for 1/4(or less) to a 1/3 of the price (factoring in lady drinks, bar fines, etc.)!
I state this with a "hedge" on the current status of Beach Road SPs as the recent police crackdown, sadly, may "skew" the situation as it stands to reason that the only the more "daring"(defined as, probably, the more desperate = the less desireable) will dare repopulate the Beach Road "stroll"!
I hope not!
but what really astonishes me is the guys who pay a load to get here, stay in a decent hotel, drink buckets of booze and then pride themselves by saving money by taking a BR girl. Good lord, you are in a city with thousands of young go-go girls - and you come to Thailand to screw a BR girl? That is insanity to me.
Imho, the most customer are pensioner, whose live in Pattaya several months in one row. They are low on budget, or just like many older people just canny. Also, there are alot of Indians strolling around, to find cheap pussy (in this case I don't understand them, since cheap pussy should be also be possible to find in India).
For me I like to walk on beach road when I go shopping. Of course if I see a nice looking girl and I am horny than I would do her as well. Just on this holiday (I am her now about 5 days) I never were horny during my walk on beachroad, but have seen some doable girls on beach road. So, what I have done is just I exchanged telefon numbers, in order that I should have a need to use their service. Though I usually find a pretty girl in an Afterhour spot like Mixx or Insomnia.
Good lord, you are in a city with thousands of young go-go girls - and you come to Thailand to screw a BR girl? That is insanity to me.
Everybody is different! This is a good thing because if everybody was only into young hotties, then prices for the good meat would be astronomical.
NOCAL,
How can they get any buisness during the day ,you can see how damn ugly they are and you not too drunk to pick them up during the day.
Fast eddie 48
Loads of guys are into ugly girls. Just go down there during the day and watch the soliciting.
I have been readig this forum and have to say that I don't understand all the negative reports about low quality girls and high prices. I was in two bars in Pattaya second road between soi 6 and 7. One was called tiger bar and the other was just next to it I don't remember the name. I about 3 or 4 girls in each bar that I would rate as 7-9 and prices
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I bet most guys would rate your finds as 5-7. Stay in Pattaya long enough, and you'll know what I mean.
Just like any bar you go into, the quality on Beach Road is highly variable.
Much of the time, it is populated with some scary hags and katoeys. Other times you will find a sweet newcomer as cute as anything in the bars, admittedly less made up.
Beach Road is a lottery
A very brief post just to recommend avoiding Tony, certainly never been amongst my favourite places but now it's just a pure rip-off, hugely overpriced and it only caters for one ethnicity...
Nothing to contribute to the beach road debate cos I never manage to go out early enough to have a complete picture...
Loads of guys are into ugly girls. I have an old old mamasan friend in Pattaya - Neung, currently at Saigon Girl. Years ago I saw a really fat ugly girl at her bar at the time and asked her why in the world she would employ such a creature. Her answer was basically 'For guys with low self esteem.'
Slackerslacker
06-21-09, 16:20
old, tired, scarred and marred-. Some folks like there women that way.I thought I made it pretty clear that is not the kind of woman I am referring to nor would I ever fuck anything other than damn good looking, by anyone's standard.
I am thinking now that your claim to never see one good looking chick in 100 laps around beach road is bullshit. You've never been there.
Also, there are alot of Indians strolling around, to find cheap pussy (in this case I don't understand them, since cheap pussy should be also be possible to find in India).If you haven't been to India, there is a big gap in the market between high class escorts (who will cost several £hundred) and the bottom end of the market - less-than-pretty girls working in decrepit brothels with a high incidence of HIV, etc. The gap is filled with pimped girls found in the small ads, and can be a lottery, but by any reckoning not a patch on our friends in Thailand. I can quite understand why Indians come over to Thailand, and I can also appreciate their different understanding of the pricing structure...
The freelancers will not have disappeared but relocated.
Actually a very large percentage of them will have disappeared, just like last time. During crackdowns, one no longer gets young cute girls freelancing, because it is too dangerous. Most just go work in bars for a while, or go home. Even many of the middling-range girls go home. So basically you're left with maybe 20% of the old population, and not the best 20% either. Crackdowns do work.
... if you are living in Pattaya on a low budget I suppose it makes sense - but what really astonishes me is the guys who pay a load to get here, stay in a decent hotel, drink buckets of booze and then pride themselves by saving money by taking a BR girl. Good lord, you are in a city with thousands of young go-go girls - and you come to Thailand to screw a BR girl? That is insanity to me.
Obviously most of us who go with BR girls are long-stayers - we work in Thailand on the pittance paid here, or live by stretching out some money from the West for months or even years on end. So for us the 2,000 baht you spend on a go-go girl has to last at least a few days. And please keep in mind that some of us care about service - the service from go-go girls is abominable compared to that available from BR girls.
Everybody is different! This is a good thing because if everybody was only into young hotties, then prices for the good meat would be astronomical.
The price is astronomical, and the service bad. No thanks. For some of us a highly skilled BJ, bareback, and anal are necessary to enjoy the sex act.. for others a young cutie is enough, even if she does almost nothing. For example I often go mongering with Thai guys - they love young cute girls, but those girls don't give any BJ, and condom usage is absolutely required, and anal is a pipe dream. I don't see how this could work for anyone (and besides, these girls usually cry out 'jep, stop' if you bang them for more than 3 minutes). What fun. No I'd much rather have even a 40 year old if she can take a good 60 minutes in all three holes, and do it with some pretense of enthusiasm.
Kim Wheather
06-21-09, 19:18
Why don't you take some pictures of Beach Road women and publish here? I haven't been in Pattaya yet, and it doesn't make any sense all this discussion about the beauty of Beach Road women. Some pictures please.
Why don't you take some pictures of Beach Road women and publish here? I haven't been in Pattaya yet, and it doesn't make any sense all this discussion about the beauty of Beach Road women. Some pictures please.
I never take any pictures of any prostitutes, but I think there are many in the 'Thailand Photo Gallery' section. Not sure how you would search, maybe just have to keep scrolling down, looking for beach road pics.
The Departed
06-21-09, 19:45
I have an old old mamasan friend in Pattaya - Neung, currently at Saigon Girl. Years ago I saw a really fat ugly girl at her bar at the time and asked her why in the world she would employ such a creature. Her answer was basically 'For guys with low self esteem.'These tubbies do the work and make the profit by getting guys to drink. The trophy hookers are a waste of the bars' time.
If you haven't been to India, there is a big gap in the market between high class escorts (who will cost several £hundred) and the bottom end of the market - less-than-pretty girls working in decrepit brothels with a high incidence of HIV, etc. The gap is filled with pimped girls found in the small ads, and can be a lottery, but by any reckoning not a patch on our friends in Thailand. I can quite understand why Indians come over to Thailand, and I can also appreciate their different understanding of the pricing structure...
I know it's off topic, but...
It's true I was never in India, but wonder why for example in the Gulf Region are hundred thousend of Indian workers, but almost no Indian Hookers. The view Indian dancers there were guarded from Indian pimps like they would consists of pure gold.
One could wonder what is going wrong with the Indians. On the one hand side they do not value women too much, since it means that they have to pay a high bride price when they marry on the other hand side the virginity of their women is equal important than in many moslem countries.
If they have such a queer kind of thinking they do not deserve to have any fun with women at all.
I thought I made it pretty clear that is not the kind of woman I am referring to nor would I ever fuck anything other than damn good looking, by anyone's standard.
I am thinking now that your claim to never see one good looking chick in 100 laps around beach road is bullshit. You've never been there.
Oh shoot - you got me all figured out. I am just making this stuff up. Oh wait. I just looked out my window and what did I see. Beach Road. Funny that. Am down in P. right now as I type this.
Hey, I said its possible my timing has always been wrong but this is just my opinion - some others on this forum have found some delights as clearly you have. I never ever ever have - and thats the truth from my perspective. But we all see things differently. A friend of mine came down to P. last year from Bk and ended up staying for weeks. He told me that he found a stunner on BR that was staying with him all day and did everything he wanted for 500 baht so he just stayed in P. for the rest of his trip. I was happy for him. Then he sends me pictures of his "stunner". I am not sure what it was that attacted him to her - the breasts that sagged so much they would have landed on the head of a passing dwarf, the ceasarian scars that ran across her stomach like the canals of Mars, the bruises on her legs that were a map of the world or just her weary tired look that seemed to be saying my life is hell. He says she is 26. She easily looked 45. But in the end she made him very happy and that is all that really counts.
Kim Wheather
06-22-09, 16:18
Can someone give informations about the price of getting taxi or tuktuk in Pattaya?
Can someone give informations about the price of getting taxi or tuktuk in Pattaya?Tuk-Tuks don`t exist in Pattaya other than some private ones such as the Pattaya Bay Resort use.
Instead 100s of Blue pick up called Songtaews (2 rows, as in seats) commonly known as Baht buses cover most of the areas you would need to reach. Price is 10 Baht for a falang pretty much anywhere from South Pattaya up to the Dolphin roundabout. From Jomtien to that far north the fare would be 20 Baht. It`s an easy system to use once you get your bearings. Flag down a moving Baht bus, climb in, at your destination press the buzzer, get out and give the driver a 10 Baht coin. Keep a pocket full of 10s because getting change from some drivers can be difficult. Don`t get into an empty parked up Baht bus or you will be charged as having chartered it.
There are now licensed Metred Taxis based in Pattaya (before the Taxis you saw were down from Bangkok) that trawl the streets. Pay what the metre says....!! easy.....!! Except most of them refuse to use the meter. Avoid them like the plague. Infact boycott them. If you need to get anywhere off of a Baht bus route directly negotiate a price with a Baht Bus driver.
ThaiLearner
06-22-09, 17:34
Can someone give informations about the price of getting taxi or tuktuk in Pattaya?
You can a motor bike taxi I don't know the price as never use them.
They run a baht bus system which you can stop and get on then travel on the route of the bus press the buzzer once to get off prices are normally 10 bht per person but if you go to Jotimen or Nakula then it will cost more.
You can hire a baht bus privately say walking street to your hotel for around 100bht for the whole bus.
LittleBigMan
06-22-09, 22:52
There are several types ( colors ) of Songteaws. The ones you see most are the Blue ones. They operate in the tourist area or lets make it easy from Sukhumvit to Beach Rd. If you hire a Blue Songteaws to the other side of Sukhumvit, don't expect to come back on one unless you hire him for a round trip since they aren't allow to pick up new customers on the way back.
There are White Songteaws that run up and down Sukhumvit Rd. Then there are Green Songteaws that run South of Sukumvit.
As for motorcycle taxi, if you don't mind their driving and don't mind spending more like 50 baht instead of 10, they are very good since like in Bangkok they can go between the cars and avoid traffic. But otherwise in Pattaya, unless you're in a super hurry or late at night use the Songteaws.
LBM
Kim Wheather
06-23-09, 14:57
Woodman2, ThaiLearner & LittleBigMan
Thanks for informations.
Motorbike taxis always try to get 40 baht now for short trips, which if you think about it is an absurdly high price. Try always to have 30 baht in exact change on you and just give them that. Normally they won't fight about it (and anyway 30 baht is a shocking lot). Never ever give more than 40 unless its a very long journey, though sometimes when you're leaving the bus station they all insist on 50. I try not to put up with this but sometimes its unavoidable.
All in all it is always the best option to rent a motorbike in Pattaya - for the 100-120 baht/day you save far more and avoid a lot of hassles and ripoffs, as well as trudgings.
Think about it - those dudes are making 30-40 baht each time, maybe doing 2-3 trips every hour. Heck given how easy and pleasant the job is I'd considering doing it for that.
This is what can happen to your dignity when you come to Pattaya without sufficient funds, and let the bar girls cheat you ....
http://www.pattayaone.net/news/2009/june/news_22_06_52_2.shtml
You will be reduced to stealing 5 baht packages of noodles at convenience stores for your supper.
Primo Bolan
06-24-09, 08:41
And they would like to execute him.
Today I were in a part of Pattaya were I were never before. 3rd Road. I were at the Euro Dental Clienic. But, on the way to that place I passed a Coyotee Club, called "the girl". It's on 3rd Road not for to the corner to south Pattaya road. From outside it makes a good impression, but of course there were no action since I were there at daytime. Do anybody know the club and can recommend?
Well, I guess it's not worth to go there, but would appreciate infos.
all in all it is always the best option to rent a motorbike in pattaya - for the 100-120 baht/day you save far more and avoid a lot of hassles and ripoffs, as well as trudgings.agree completely.
first time i hired a pretty crappy bike for 150bht, but for better bikes the price seems to be 200bht, or 150bht if hired for more than one day. i usually get the shrimp to do the haggling after i've told her the target figure.
o**** always seems to get the best prices...
Primo Bolan
06-24-09, 14:22
Motorbike taxis always try to get 40 baht now for short trips, which if you think about it is an absurdly high price. Try always to have 30 baht in exact change on you and just give them that. Normally they won't fight about it (and anyway 30 baht is a shocking lot). Never ever give more than 40 unless its a very long journey, though sometimes when you're leaving the bus station they all insist on 50. I try not to put up with this but sometimes its unavoidable.
All in all it is always the best option to rent a motorbike in Pattaya - for the 100-120 baht/day you save far more and avoid a lot of hassles and ripoffs, as well as trudgings.
Think about it - those dudes are making 30-40 baht each time, maybe doing 2-3 trips every hour. Heck given how easy and pleasant the job is I'd considering doing it for that.
All in all its always a nice way to get a one way ticket. Dont learn it the hard way like I did. Stay away from motorbikedriving. You can always drive nice and slow but it doesn`t matter if the rest drives like hell. Take a nice walk instead. Just a thought. PB
Mr Enternational
06-24-09, 14:57
Today I were in a part of Pattaya were I were never before. 3rd Road. I were at the Euro Dental Clienic.
DG. How is the Euro Dental Clinic as far as price and service? I usually go to the dentist in BKK but I'm looking for a replacement in Pattaya.
Today I were in a part of Pattaya were I were never before. 3rd Road. I were at the Euro Dental Clienic. But, on the way to that place I passed a Coyotee Club, called "the girl". It's on 3rd Road not for to the corner to south Pattaya road. From outside it makes a good impression, but of course there were no action since I were there at daytime. Do anybody know the club and can recommend?
Well, I guess it's not worth to go there, but would appreciate infos.Most of the bars and clubs on #3 road are for mainly Thai clientel. The exception being Bamboo Bar and Excite Disco. The welcome can be frosty at best and downright hostile at worst. You`ve no real need to go there, stick to the tourist places.
DG. How is the Euro Dental Clinic as far as price and service? I usually go to the dentist in BKK but I'm looking for a replacement in Pattaya.Thre is a very god dentist on the way to Jomtien. Whn you come up the hill, just before the 7/11 on the left hand side. It's called something like German dental. The owner is German ad has employed very good dentists. They have an in hose laboratory and can do crowns within 3 days.
DG. How is the Euro Dental Clinic as far as price and service? I usually go to the dentist in BKK but I'm looking for a replacement in Pattaya.
The cost for a crown is 12000 Baht (Gold with a plastic coating) and 500 Baht for X-Ray.
I can't say if I can recommend the Euro Dental Clinic. The two Thai guys in that clinic did a good job by grinding down my tooth for the Crown, but I lost the provisional tooth they installed to bridge the time until the crown is finish (Tuesday next week) at the first day. Hope the final crown will last longer.... :(.
Thank you Woodman for the info. Excite and Bamboo Bar I know, there are on 3rd between Pattaya Klang (or Gang) and South Pattaya Road.
The Club "The Girl" is on 3rd Road between Pattaya Klang (or Gang) and North Pattaya Road.
Yesterday I walked down Soi Buakaow (spelling?) and found the Bars there good fun. The usual customers there are English guys and since I lived one year in England, I liked the British kind of Clubbing.
In Club Blu they had a 70th Party. Girls were dressed like in the seventhies and Music were also from that time. Good fun there. It's on every Wednesday.
Also, found on the way on a Night Market at Soi Buakaow (behind Central Festifal Center) a VW Transporter (Bully) where they sell Bratwuerste (Sausages). They taste very good, so if somebody wants to try good Bratwuerste, the sausage there taste really like German Sausages.
In England I was on a German Christmas Market, but the Sausages there did not taste very good, imho. Big difference between what you find on a Christmas Market in Germany. But, this sausage stall sell really good ones.
Low season in Pat now. The beggars are out and girls are willing to deal. Hot 18 yo gogo girl(unmarked) for 1000ST last night. She wanted 1500 but got 1000. Most freelancers are willing to take between 500-1000ST. Bargain hard guys! There are deals to be had.
http://dentalpattayabeach.com/
I had major work done at this place by "Dr. Pom". Highly recommended and inexpensive. Young western-trained dentist, good English, cute assistants who sing along to the radio and flirt. The clinic (two clinics actually) located on Second Street across from Tukcom shopping mall.
...Most freelancers are willing to take between 500-1000ST. Bargain hard guys! There are deals to be had.
Last time I was in Pattaya I got a 300 baht offer from a 24 year old quite attractive Beach Road girl, and took her up on it. This was the kind of girl who always gets 500 normally (there are definitely plenty of older ones who will take 300 any day). The catch was this was just as the police squads were rolling, and she was about to run up Soi Yamoto as fast as she could when she espied me.
LittleBigMan
06-25-09, 19:05
Mr. Enternational,
As Tiger888, mentioned and he was the one that refer this place to me. I wrote a report months ago on my experience there and the price. I have checked out many places in Pattaya and although his prices might be higher than what I personally wanted to pay it wasn't higher than what you paid at the clinic you mentioned.
I know the spelling is wrong... but it's on the way to Jomtien on Tharapya Rd, on the left hand side. They are doing construction now and making the road wider. It across the 7/11, German Dental...
In review, I had a crown done in 2 days, from my research that's the quickest anyone I have found in Pattaya. A crown was only 9,000 baht and they back it up for 5 years if it cracks. They have their own lab on the top floor.
LBM
Gents,
I'll be in BKK for the last week of July and I'll stay an all week there just for my favorite sports.
I was wondering if Pataya would be worth the visit, leaving BKK in the morning and going back in the evening.
How is the beach?
Could I come alone with my things, abandon them on the sand and go swimming for 15 minutes, and still found them when I come back?
Do they have public showers on the beach to get rid of the salt and sand?
If I want to visit some hot spot during day time with no hotel in Pataya, what would you recommend?
Thanks for your advises.
Lemon Tree
06-26-09, 00:19
I can confirm the statement of DG69 about the prize of a crown. I always go to "Perfect Smile" on Central Pattaya Road (Pattaya Klang) for cleaning the teeth and repair, if necessary. In April this year I broke a crown, went to Perfect Smile, they made an X-Ray and offered me a porcelain crown with 18 carat inlay for 12000 Baht. For the interim I got a plastic crown. All finished after 1 week. Most convincing work. And about the sausage - I agree 100 %. The VW bus offers a "Thüringer Rostbratwurst " at its best. Very tasty. Aroi aroi mak mak. Normally I prefer Thai food, but sometimes I need some good farang food. And this sausage is much better than the sausages I can buy in Friendship Shop on Pattaya Tai Road.
Enjoy
Lemon Tree
Contrary to what Amjeck reported, to me prices are not as low as they should, especially with so little farangs around, clearly something drove prices up in last years, never dreamt of paying more than 1,500bath for long time in Pattaya, not even stunners, and never did... I see some now have the guts to ask 2,500bath... in their dreams! Can almost get the same experience in my country for that...
My holidays are towards the end and I still had a hugely good time, but it happened more than once that girls have played the trick of going home in the morning with just the one f---!, never used to bargain in the detail beforehand how many f--- they are supposed to provide and not even the price for what matter, usually gave them well below the 1,500 mark and they were as happy as your dog!
These two reasons make me say something's gone downhill, but, for now, still the Mecca...
Contrary to what Amjeck reported, to me prices are not as low as they should...
Indeed, prices are not always goes in the right direction. For example the so called Doener, or better to say Shawama. It's that chicken or beef wrap arab stile, you can find now on any corner. The first one I saw years ago behind Coyotee Agogo on Second Road. Now there are almost everywhere. First price when I remember right was 50 Baht. Last November it was 60 Baht and now it costs 70 Baht, at least at walking street. The ones in Soi LK Metro are still 60 Baht, but the chicken is not breast filet, but leg meat (not as good for a shawama). Also, prices for Motorcycle Taxis are going up. Though I never used them at this trip. I rather walk than support such an inflation.
Also, I think I know now where those Brazilian Hookers have their nest. A few days before I saw from a distance some Brazilian dancer in a restaurant at Central Festival Center. Can't remember the name of the restaurant, but something short like Smack, ir Crack, or .... Anyway it's in Front of Central Festival Center on Beach Road.
They play Carioca Music and have some Brazilian dancer. I didn't saw them from a close distance, so I can't be sure, but I saw that those dancer, dance really like Brazilians, which is totally different from how Thai dance. Thais don't move their hips in that way like Brazilians do.
Contrary to what Amjeck reported, to me prices are not as low as they should, especially with so little farangs around, clearly something drove prices up in last years, never dreamt of paying more than 1,500bath for long time in Pattaya, not even stunners, and never did... I see some now have the guts to ask 2,500bath... in their dreams! Can almost get the same experience in my country for that...
Prices have certainly become outrageous in the last 2 years in Pattaya and the services have gotten worse. However, it seems that this low season has just kicked in over the last week and the girls are finally willing to come down on price.
If you keep up with the changes in Pattaya, you'll understand the reason for the high prices. IMO pattaya is getting worse everyday, but as you said, it is still the mecca for now.
Yep, I think "outrageous" is precisely the word I'd use to describe a request of 2,500bath, irrespective of who's asking for it. I don't want to generalize on which ethnicity drove up the prices or what age braket, but something did happen. Some places asking for 250bath for a mekong-coke is also out of this world, lost touch somehow...
As regards the second-bum-bum-at-least when it comes to LT deals, I never had to push the girl for the 2nd (or sometimes 3rd) f---, it was implicit in the LT “deal”, and IF I HAD TO PUSH HER I WOULDN’T LIKE IT ANYWAY!
Clever girls have always been there, trying their luck, but it seems now they are getting to smart-arse level… I’m in my mid 30s and good looking (not that it matters of course, I know what they’re after…) and still had loads of fun with my usual prices as I did last times, so that’s no big deal, just want to report my impressions.
Also just want to precise, I come here twice a year, not that I’ve been absent for ages and didn’t keep up with the prices, I just have the impression that things have deteriorated quite quickly, especially seeing there are not many tourists around and those who are here are likely to be more conscious due to these difficult financial times, but who knows, I may only have been sort of unlucky with some…
Good luck to you all!
And if I'm allowed just another thought, there are so many girls out there now having "good men" sponsoring them on a monthly basis that some have actually lost touch with their world. Last night chatting with a not-so-young-and-definitely-not-good-looking girl she showed me a text from her "boyfriend" from Dubai who sent her 90,000bath. I mean come on guys! I don't want to insult anybody here, but if you think that they don't f--- around cos you sponsor them you have definitely lost touch with reality! Your "love" will end and in the meantime you will have lost quite a lot of money and spoilt the market as well.
The shutting off of the Beach Road trade will greatly increase the upward pressure on prices.
There are several reasons for the increase over the last few years: 1) fewer young women as Thailand's birthrate has declined and the population rapidly ages, 2) shutting down of many international sex tourism destinations - for example Cambodia, 3) the crackdowns on the beach over the last few years, and 4) Thailand's booming economy. Only the last factor has been counteracted by the depression.
I don't know if any of you remember, but a couple of years ago there was basically no beach scene for nearly a whole year. The scene had only recently recovered somewhat, and now the crackdowns begin again. Eliminating the 300-500 baht option on the beach does a lot to force mongers to spend the big money in the bars and nightclubs.
And if I'm allowed just another thought, there are so many girls out there now having "good men" sponsoring them on a monthly basis that some have actually lost touch with their world. Last night chatting with a not-so-young-and-definitely-not-good-looking girl she showed me a text from her "boyfriend" from Dubai who sent her 90,000bath. I mean come on guys! I don't want to insult anybody here, but if you think that they don't f--- around cos you sponsor them you have definitely lost touch with reality! Your "love" will end and in the meantime you will have lost quite a lot of money and spoilt the market as well.
I’m afraid there is nothing we can do about love struck fools from Dubai (and elsewhere) sponsoring their plain looking Pattaya bar girl sweethearts with thousands of baht. Why should we want to anyway? I say good for them and good for the economy of Pattaya.
Good for us too. When lucky news like this spreads to the hinterlands of the LOS, the impoverished young farm village girls will come flocking to Pattaya by the hundreds, each looking for her own chance at a foreigner. While they search, most will be quite willing to fuck and suck each male prospect for the going rate. If not, they’ll either get lucky or go hungry. And the next crop will arrive tomorrow on the morning bus.
That’s how things work here. That’s the beauty of Pattaya.
Pointy Stick
06-26-09, 11:16
Anyone know of the price and availability of Russian/CIS in Pattaya at the moment and if they're discounting like TG's are.
Apologies in advance to those of the 'when in Rome' school but since I'm unlikely to set foot in their godforesaken countries a change in diet would be good.
Anyone know of the price and availability of Russian/CIS in Pattaya at the moment and if they're discounting like TG's are.
Apologies in advance to those of the 'when in Rome' school but since I'm unlikely to set foot in their godforesaken countries a change in diet would be good.
Ah, at the moment are alot CIS and Russians in Pattaya. It's maybe their summer holiday time. Same apeals to Israelians and French.
The CIS girls stroll along the walking street and can be also found at beach road. Though they are not very pretty, inho.
Russian girls, even quite pretty ones can be find for example in the after hour discos. Specially at MixX. I am not sure if they go for money and how much, or if they are looking for some holiday adventure.
Just noticed that alot of Indian and Arabs try like crazy to get in contact with them. It's somehow funny, in case more embarrassing than funny to see how thay make fools out of themselfs to get with meat.
So, if you are charming and resonable looking you could have some luck with the Russian chicks. Just try and don't make a fool out of you.;-)
Anyway, I have to say that the after hour scene is poor at the moment. The reason is that it starts now too late, or on the wrong places. Last November I could went to Marine Disco at 1 am and there were already alot of people and quite many girls.
Now Marine is death, since Insomnia is on walking street.
Insomnia is not bad, also the prices are quite good (SM light about 115 Baht) but it starts late. Best at 3 am, but very quickly to crowded, since the space is limited and the service staff is very pushy and annoying.
MixX has awful music, starts late also 2-3 am and is full of Arabs and Indians whose habbits are not always compatible with western good behaviour. Also, drinks are quite expensive (SM light 180 Baht).
Walking Street Pub (with the red car) starts earlier 12 -2 am but very narrow and not easy to overview.
Lucifer starts earlier but I never liked that place. I am not a fan from the kind of music they play and it's too dark and difficult to overview.
Marine was just right, started early with good music and open and therefore easy to spot nice looking girls. Just it was expensive (SM light 180 Baht). Now Marine is death and no replacement imho.
There are several reasons for the increase over the last few years: 1) fewer young women as Thailand's birthrate has declined and the population rapidly ages, 2) shutting down of many international sex tourism destinations - for example Cambodia, 3) the crackdowns on the beach over the last few years, and 4) Thailand's booming economy. Only the last factor has been counteracted by the depression.
Pattaya has certainly been cracking down on the trade in the last few years. and Yes, there are far less young girls.
I think the main reason for the increase in price and the stuck up attitude of the women, is simply that guys are willing to spend more to get laid. There is a new crowd of tourists/mongers coming to Pattaya and they have cash to burn!
Marine was just right, started early with good music and open and therefore easy to spot nice looking girls. Just it was expensive (SM light 180 Baht). Now Marine is death and no replacement imho.
I agree. Marine used to be a hot spot, now it sucks .Tony's was hot and would allow girls younger than 20 in. Now the vibe in tonys is very arab.
RetiredForever
06-26-09, 12:55
World's largest expat survey reveals crunch hits expats hard
US, Thailand and South Africa are most affected expat locations
BANGKOK: -- The US, Thailand and South Africa are most affected expat locations. Almost half of expats in UK are considering returning home. Emerging markets rank above established centres for expat finances, while UK is the worst for saving behind Spain and France. Despite economic crisis, expats are wealthier and save more than in country of origin.
HSBC Bank International today revealed that the current economic crisis has had a significant impact on expats' financial situation, according to the world's largest survey of expats, Expat Explorer.
The first of three instalments of this year's survey, Expat Economics, showed that expats have reduced spending across the board, with the UK and the US identified as having some of the highest numbers of expats considering a move home.
Expat Explorer, now in its second year, surveyed over 3,100 expats from more than 50 countries and is the largest survey of its kind, with 46% more respondents than last year. Expat Economics is the first of three reports on the results and is a new addition to this year's survey which looks at an expats' economic quality of life. This is determined by four main economic factors:
-Annual income in excess of US$200,000.
- A monthly disposable income in excess of US$3,000.
- An increase in saving while living/working abroad (in their current country of residence).
- Having at least two luxury items in the country they live in.
Paul Say, Head of Marketing and Communications for HSBC Bank International, said that this year's survey revealed interesting insights into a dynamic segment of the world's population, and also stands as a key indicator into how expats had been affected by global economic events.
"Last year's survey gave us some really valuable insights into such a fascinating group of people and we are pleased to see even more expats participating in this year's survey" said Mr Say.
"As the world continues to undergo a significant economic shift, we are seeing some interesting patterns amongst the expat population, particularly in the changes to their spending habits. Despite expats in the UK and US considering a move home we also found that the majority of expats are staying put despite growing employment uncertainty across many regions."
Overall, the US, Thailand and South Africa have been most affected by the credit crunch, reducing their spending on essential and luxury items, general household maintenance and the money allocated to savings and investments. The largest reduction in essential day-to-day items was seen in Spain, where almost two-thirds (81%) of expats have cut back. Almost four-fifths of expats in the US (79%) and three quarters in the UK (75%) have also scaled down their spending on essential day-to-day items.
Not surprisingly, almost half (44% - the highest recorded figure in the survey) of expats in the UK and close to a quarter (23%) of expats in the US are considering returning home in light of the current financial crisis. This provides a stark contrast when compared to the average of only 15% of expats overall who are considering the same move.
26 countries now feature in the ranking table (compared with 12 last year), with Russia (1st place) scoring highly as a result of the number of expats saving more, high annual salaries and the amount of disposable income available. Qatar (2nd place) and Saudi Arabia (3rd place) also scored highly in the areas of increased savings and disposable income, however had their scores affected by lower annual salaries. Interestingly, two-thirds of expats in Qatar (63%) said that their attitude to spending had not changed as a result of the economic crisis.
Geographically, Switzerland and the UK ranked 1st and 2nd respectively for Europe, with Qatar and Saudi Arabia leading the charge in the Middle East, Russia and Hong Kong top for the Asia-Pacific region and Mexico and the United States highest in the Americas.
Many expatriates have taken advantage of their current location to increase the amount of money allocated to savings. Expats in the Middle East are strong savers, with the UAE ranking fifth (after Saudi Arabia, Russia, Qatar and India) as a country where expats are increasing their savings. The UAE and India were also top countries to save in the 2008 Expat Explorer report.
Expats in the UK were the worst savers/investors globally, with over a quarter of expats living in the UK (27% - the highest recorded in the survey) saying that they had reduced their savings and investments when compared to their home country.
Savings accounts are the most popular way to save for expats across virtually all markets, with the exceptions of Mexico, Malaysia, Japan and South Africa.
Asia is home to the highest paid expats in the world, with one in four expats (25%) earning more than US$200,000 per year. Individually, the survey identified Russia, Japan and Qatar as home to the wealthiest expats, defined as an annual income in excess of US$200,000 and a monthly disposable income in excess of US$3,000. Over one-third (43%) of expats surveyed in Russia, 40% in Japan and 22% in Qatar answered that their annual income was over this US$200,000 mark.
Belgium and Australia are home to the least wealthy expats, with almost two-thirds (61%) of expats in Belgium and 63% of expats in Australia stating that their annual salary was US$100,000 or less. This compares to an average figure of 35% across all expats surveyed.
Almost three-quarters (74%) of expats surveyed said that they have more disposable income than they did living in their country of origin, except those living in France (47%) and the UK (47%). Almost all expats in Qatar (94%), Russia (97%) and Saudi Arabia (98%) have more disposable income than they did living in their home country. More expats in these countries also have more than US$4,000 (70%, 59%, 52% respectively) of disposable income each month compared to the survey average of 36%.
Food and accommodation has seen the largest increase in spending for expats, a continuing theme from the 2008 Expat Explorer report. Expats in the UK spend more of their income on accommodation than in anywhere else in the world, with almost two-thirds (86%) ranking it as their greatest expenditure, a continuing trend from the 2008 report.
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While they search, most will be quite willing to fuck and suck each male prospect for the going rate.
Not always strictly true, when a girl has a good sponsorship (or more than one), and many out there have, sometimes is only willing to go with you at her conditions, either she's in the mood and she likes you a little bit, or you give her a valuable sum because the value of money to her has changed and would rather spend the night with her friends and enjoy herself than get what seems now a "miserable" 1,000bath. Sponsorhip is certainly not the main reason for the increase in prices, but I'm more against than pro.
Totally agree with the scene that starts too late, the only place seems now Lucifer which starts at a decent hour, but some girls in discos now do have an attitude compared to just a couple of years ago.
Not always strictly true, when a girl has a good sponsorship (or more than one), and many out there have, sometimes is only willing to go with you at her conditions, ...
I wrote already something regarding sponsorship. I would consider sponsorship as an absolutely stupid idea. Almost all lose while one guy start to sponsor his girl.
The Sponsor lose, finacially and emotional. He think he can keep the girl for himslef by sending money. Maybe he can be sure that she will be with him on his next holiday, but meanwhile she will sex with other guys as well.
The girl will have enough money, but most Thai girls don't save the money. They usually spend it for luxury staff or just spend on parties with her friends. On the end she will be spoiled and stuck up.
Other customer who can be also the sponsor on his next holiday, who will have to deal with spoiled market prices.
Ok, the local economy will win, but in the end the higher prices will convince the monger scene to stay away and search for cheaper destinations.
Sponsors, high tipper and big spender will ruin the market and destroy the monger paradise for others and for themself.
Sponsors, high tipper and big spender will ruin the market and destroy the monger paradise for others and for themself.
This seems to be the talking point of some forum members without ever elaborating on it. Do you have any real evidence of this or can you tell us how it is possible for "big spenders" to ruin the market for others?
This seems to be the talking point of some forum members without ever elaborating on it. Do you have any real evidence of this or can you tell us how it is possible for "big spenders" to ruin the market for others?
It's quite simple. If a girl gets from a customer 2000 Baht for St, because he feels that that price is justified, but the going rate is 1000 Baht than the girl will try to get the next time again 2000 Baht. If there are enough guys whose pay 2000 Baht than the going rate will become 2000 Baht.
In the end all prices will raise.
or can you tell us how it is possible for "big spenders" to ruin the market for others?
Simple economics really.
When a guy is horny he rarely thinks with the right head. So when a chick who normally goes for 1000ST all of the sudden tries for 2000ST and gets it from a few "big spenders", she automatically thinks her value is at 2000ST. She will always shoot for this amount because she got it several times before. Her real value may be at 1000ST but in her head, she thinks she is worth more and will always try to get it. A really good example is to go out and find a girl that normally goes for japanese men. These girls will always quote outrageous prices because most japanese guys just pay what the girl asks. Their yen is strong and they can't be bothered with negotiating. I wouldn't say they've ruined the market, but instead created there own.
When you buy a liter of gasoline you use logic in your decision making. You probably wouldn't pay double for what you could get for half across the street would you? When guys buy pussy, very few use logic. It is an emotional sell, and the ones who get all emotional and too horny pay the most!
Let's face it. It is what it is.
It's quite simple. If a girl gets from a customer 2000 Baht for St, because he feels that that price is justified, but the going rate is 1000 Baht than the girl will try to get the next time again 2000 Baht. If there are enough guys whose pay 2000 Baht than the going rate will become 2000 Baht.
In the end all prices will raise.
This is flawed on so many levels, first there is no guarantee she is going to get 2000B from the next customer or even the next 100 customers, even if she asks for it because big spenders are the exception. Second if this were true, why aren’t the prices 5000B (or whatever high rollers pay) for ST now? Big spenders have been in spurlging in Pattaya for years so the prices should be way more than what they are now. When I go to Super baby or Super Girl a GO GO, I should be quoted the same silly prices the Japanese customers are paying because they pay higher and are "spoiling the market for the rest of us" but the price is still the same for me. If a girl demands 2000B for ST, move on to the next one that will charge your 1000B. Eventually the girl who wants 2000B will return her price to 1000B because there will never be enough high rollers to consistently sustain her.
I've been hearing this big spenders will spoil the market crap for years but the prices have basically remain at the same level they were years ago. I saw a customer paid a girl 1000B for ST on Soi 6 some time ago. Last month she was offering up herself for 700 ST because she knows that she will not command 1000B from every customer. These girls are smart enough to know that not all customers will pay outrageous prices and will adjust accordingly. There's just no evidence to support this idea that big spenders spoil the market, it’s nothing more than catchy talking points but there is no merit to it.
I've been hearing this big spenders will spoil the market crap for years but the prices have basically remain at the same level they were years ago....
Ok, I am just back from a short time and I guess I will stay in Hotel and go early sleeping (it's now 02:34 am). But, let's try again, though I am sure I will not be able to convince you, since you even call the statement of others crap and what else, instead of arguing.
Good example is tipping. In former time there were not such an habbit to tip. In some countries like England , tipping is not the norm, but in America it's usual. American tourists brought this habbit to Thailand and now tipping is here also usual.
One other example is Thermae in Bangkok. I am not sure if it's was the Japanese, Chinese, or Korean guys, but it doesn't matter. They pay 3000 Baht ST as far I have heard. Now the cute girls there are only going with for 3000 Baht and some do not even consider to go with a Farang.
Better looking girls can ask for higher prices and will get higher prices, because some high spender will pay. There are still enough girl, even cute ones who go for less, but the high spender, sponsors and co do spoil the market for the Stunners since they pay them more.
Ok, some could say it's justified, since a Mercedes also cost more than a Fiat. In the end it's true and in the end nobody will be able to change the system. But, in the end Thailand will gets to expensive and mongers will go to other countries or stay at home.
Example is Spain. In the past it was a cheap place for North and Middle European tourists. Than it got spoiled, prices raised and people changed to Turkey.
Maybe Thailand tourist industrie will compensate the raising of prices with more supply (More Hotels, more Restaurants, more Shops). At the moment through the economic situation there is more supply than demand, so the prices should fall.
@Amjeck, seems we had the same thoughts!;-)
howdy i usually post in the phil board but i do spend time in pattaya / jomtein too. i spent three months there from oct to dec 25. the night before christmas i did a midnight move and headed to angeles to be with fellow catholics to celebrate. well the real reason i was running from a psycho thai gf who had a mean streak. to this day i still have a few remaining scars from her putting her claws into my flesh.
that aside, i will be back and managed to patch up the farewell speech from the saftey of my home computer with her. in due time they just move on to another chap.
i must say the pattaya jomtein scene is a real sex carnival. on the one side there is quite a bit of competition from fellow punters but there is an abundance of ladies willing to go short time with you, and making a few extra baht no matter what their current relationship status is.
jomtein is my place. i like the local beaches especially cozy beach and the suburban feel to the place. travel to walking street is only 15 minutes away max but i rarely pick up there as i find the prices higher. i would just walk around looking for strays that catch me eyes and make a deal for short time in the 500-1000 baht range. if one is staying a few months its hard to beat the locale. if one is keeping a good looking lady there i think it would be next to impossible to think that she would not be tempted with all the falangs offering to short time her.
there are so many fine restaurants to choose from in the jomtein complex including a large expat bar. however being the thrifty type i would settle with local cuisine and beer at half the price to the foreign owned establishments on average. i found royal park apartments thailand a sweet serviced apartment. it is hidden in the royal park subdivision which makes for a much quieter stay. eddie is the owner is from england and owen runs the place. it is not the cheapest but for a middle of the road budget person like myself it is hard to beat. there is no street scene outside your door unlike many other places with resulting smells and traffic. it a two block walk to the local seven eleven on thepprasit.
i plan to be back in october- january give or take a month enjoying those three months there when the weather is very good not too hot and little rain unlike most parts of thailand and the rest of asia. its a paradise for sex there.
i do find myself hanging out with mates there more than in the phil because fewer ladies speak english and if they do the topics of conversation are limited to the bare bones. just hard to find friends that don't smoke or drink like a fish. so, i doubt i could live there unless i start hanging out at the hospitals and find a women brain surgeon or psychologist - could help in the end.
actually, i might start at the hospital next time looking for a gf because i could have wound up there last time. if you find your gf has a wicked side best to be shoving her on. i kept that one a bit too long because my little brother was too happy even in the land with many smiles in this sleepy suburb of pattaya.
There is a new crowd of tourists/mongers coming to Pattaya and they have cash to burn!
I had high hopes that the depression would impoverish this vile horde, but so far I've been disappointed.
Ok, I am just back from a short time and I guess I will stay in Hotel and go early sleeping (it's now 02:34 am). But, let's try again, though I am sure I will not be able to convince you, since you even call the statement of others crap and what else, instead of arguing.
The term "crap” was geared towards to the concept that big spender raise prices and affect the market. It was not personally directed towards you or anyone else. I used it because no one has ever shown any empirical evidence to support the claim you and others have made. Comparatively speaking, Pattaya and Thailand in general is still one of the most economical destinations for sex tourists the world over despite the big spenders claim which has been around for ages.
This is flawed on so many levels, first there is no guarantee she is going to get 2000B from the next customer or even the next 100 customers, even if she asks for it because big spenders are the exception.
Remember we're talking about a Thai women who are pretty dumb. She doesn't think like we do. So it might take dozens of rejections at 2000ST(assuming she just got the 2000ST on the previous outing) for her to finally go down in price. So, the "spoiling of prices" can be short lived. That is one of the reasons prices drop in low season.
I had high hopes that the depression would impoverish this vile horde, but so far I've been disappointed.
Me too! The sex industry is recession proof, unfortunatley.
Me too! The sex industry is recession proof, unfortunatley.With the downturn in the economy during the past year many SPs in Canada are lowering prices and or offering specials.
Hello:
I will be returning to Pattaya after a 2 year abscence. Could someone tell me the names of the main massage parlors on what I believe was North Road. Had a fantastic experience there last time.
Also any general info about the mongering scene there would be appreciated.
Thank you.
Lemon Tree
06-27-09, 06:03
All 3 massage parlours are on Second Road. Sabaii Room beside Big C, Sabaii Land and Sabaii Dee opposite Big C. There is one more named Diamond Massage Parlour in Soi Diamond beside the Diamond Beach Hotel near Walking Street.
Enjoy
Lemon Tree
Ok, just a few curious things that happens yesterday. First I went to a massage parlour to have a thai massage for 200 Baht. I choose the best looking girl in that parlour. She is a leggie 27 year old woman with a quite nice backside. So, I just came for the massage. Did not do any attempt to start something like touching her or make hinds for a happy ending. I did not even expect or hope for an happy ending, since I really just came for a massage. Anyway at the end she asked if I want a hand job.
Well, she asked for 300 Baht and I thought why not, but I have to admit that I never came by a hand job before. Even when the hand job was very sensual and I enjoyed it, I didn't came. So, she asked whats up. I told her I need to fcuk her otherwise I can't finish. She said it's not possible. I asked if I could move my dig between her buttocks. She found it strang but agreed. So, I did and it was fun, similar like a tit fcuk.
She seams also to like it, since my dick stimulate her brown eye. Her buttocks were oiled and suddenly I felt that I just had entered her backside a little bit. Well, I moved deeper very slowly and after a while I was full in. Well, it was an accident and I had no condom, but in the "heat of the fight" I just ignored. Well, it was really a very nice and unsuspected fcuk.
Than shortly before I went out at night, I got a call from a nice beach road girl. There are not much good looking ones at evening, but at 2 pm I saw some quite good looking ones. Later at 4 pm saw less, I guess the good looking ones were already taken.
That girl, her name is Mew I know from last week, when I saw her at beach road. I just exchanged telefon numbers but did not do her. A few days later she called me, if I want her for ST. I asked if she can do Anal and she said that she never did it and will not do. So, I replied that I don't want a ST then.
Yesterday she called again asked again if I want a ST. I asked if she forgot that she called me already and that I want do her anal. She said yes she remember. I asked if she now can do anal, if she had done before and why she changed her mind. She answered, she is young and need the money ;) she did it before and yes she can do anal if I pay her 1000 Baht.
Unfortunatelly I had already a plan for the night and so I said to her that I will call her later and that I now be busy.
I went to Diamond agogo there was a competition of Bangkok GoGo dancer against Diamond and Casino Gogo dancer. There were really alot of Stunners and the dance contest were quite interesting. I spend there about 3 hours and end with one of the girls there for a short time. It was the first time since I am in Pattaya, that I barfined a gogo girl. Normally I am into Freelancer, but this girl were just great. Fresh from Rayong and very sweet. Sex was very good, though without anal. Mew called me again later on, but since I just had sex with Bell (the girl from Diamond Agogo) I was not more in need of Mews service.
I've been hearing this big spenders will spoil the market crap for years but the prices have basically remain at the same level they were years ago.
I don't know how you can say that, because they are not! I NEVER gave more than 1,500bath LT not even in pricey Phuket, and I'm picky when it comes to looks, now, in low sseason and a recession going on, I keep hearing too much figures above 2,000bath in Pattaya which was just a never heard of years ago. Also the attitude of some girls who happen to think they have an orizontal vagina (English natives may say their shit doesn't smell) was not so present years ago.
We all may have our theories, you may not agree with some of them, fine, but I'm contesting some facts here, prices are just not the same as they were...
Hello:
I will be returning to Pattaya after a 2 year abscence. Could someone tell me the names of the main massage parlors on what I believe was North Road. Had a fantastic experience there last time.
Also any general info about the mongering scene there would be appreciated.
Thank you.If you mean the Soapies (body massage then the main ones are on second road
By Soi 2 and Big C shopping,
Here is the photoguide which shows your the one and the others are just further along on the same side, click on the blue circles to move along the road.
http://www.pattayaphotoguide.com/?SC2RUC8skccA
Remember we're talking about a Thai women who are pretty dumb. She doesn't think like we do. So it might take dozens of rejections at 2000ST(assuming she just got the 2000ST on the previous outing) for her to finally go down in price. So, the "spoiling of prices" can be short lived. That is one of the reasons prices drop in low season.
I've really never noticed any sign that they're 'dumb', at least no more so than anyone else. Nor that they think differently, nor that prices drop much in low season. Good looking ones can definitely do well with that strategy - of setting the price very high and waiting for the desperate guy. They'll usually get it eventually, and the price level will keep skyrocketing as it has for years.
The biggest factor behind this is the desperation of western men - we simply have no options. Secondarily the very small and constantly declining supply of cute girls.
I'd just like to point out that there is nothing stupid about these girls, in my experience. They're sharp as tacks business women, certainly by comparison to their opponents - we horny men.
Joe Nailer
06-27-09, 16:00
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I'd just like to point out that there is nothing stupid about these girls, in my experience. They're sharp as tacks business women, certainly by comparison to their opponents - we horny men.
Despite their education etc, they are very quick at counting money. But they are no economist to know the "Supply-Demand" theory. In fact this theory does not apply here. I think their MO is very simple; They make a plan for the day e.g 5000B+ according to their needs such as food, kids clothing, sick relatives etc... Less demand can mean a higher price because she would try to achieve her target for that day. The point is they are opportunist; whenever opportunity presents itself, she will just take it. Why not.
Ok, just a few curious things that happens yesterday. First I went to a massage parlour to have a thai massage for 200 Baht. I choose the best looking girl in that parlour. She is a leggie 27 year old woman with a quite nice backside. So, I just came for the massage. Did not do any attempt to start something like touching her or make hinds for a happy ending. I did not even expect or hope for an happy ending, since I really just came for a massage. Anyway at the end she asked if I want a hand job.
Well, she asked for 300 Baht and I thought why not, but I have to admit that I never came by a hand job before. Even when the hand job was very sensual and I enjoyed it, I didn't came. So, she asked whats up. I told her I need to fcuk her otherwise I can't finish. She said it's not possible. I asked if I could move my dig between her buttocks. She found it strang but agreed. So, I did and it was fun, similar like a tit fcuk.
She seams also to like it, since my dick stimulate her brown eye. Her buttocks were oiled and suddenly I felt that I just had entered her backside a little bit. Well, I moved deeper very slowly and after a while I was full in. Well, it was an accident and I had no condom, but in the "heat of the fight" I just ignored. Well, it was really a very nice and unsuspected fcuk.
Would you mind sharing with us the name and location of this massage parlor?
Thanks a million
Thank you. Self-preservation required me to remove the info from my Palm Pilot. All looks familar now.
Had a great experience there. Found a gal who was 34 with one of the greatest bodies I have ever seen. Great service too. One of the very very few times I tried to connect later on. She gave me her no., called her but no go.
An interesting aside. I wanted to talk to the girl I first selected to make sure we were on the same page as far as service was concerned, and the Papasan said not problem. It turned out her english was Vassar perfect. When I asked her where she learned to speak english she literally stood up and walked away.
Anyway, looking forward to returning.
If you mean the Soapies (body massage then the main ones are on second road
By Soi 2 and Big C shopping,
Here is the photoguide which shows your the one and the others are just further along on the same side, click on the blue circles to move along the road.
http://www.pattayaphotoguide.com/?SC2RUC8skccA
The biggest factor behind this is the desperation of western men - we simply have no options. Secondarily the very small and constantly declining supply of cute girls.Is there an acknowledged decline in the supply of cute girls in Thailand that I haven't heard about so far? I was in Thailand a week ago for the first time so I have no basis for comparison. I wasn't overly impressed with the supply of girls in Soi Cowboy (Japanese seem to have captured this market because of their 3-3-3 MO), but there were many great looking girls in Pattaya.
Many guys I spoke with in Pattaya said there's many more (and beautiful) girls in High season than in Low season. So is Pattaya better in High season?
I agree with the desperation of western men. That's how I feel now that I'm home. Here I'm shunned by homely or chunky women. What has happened to this place?
Hi.
In a previous report a member mentioned club MixX.
Can someone tell me exactly where it is located in Pattaya.
Also do freelancers work there or is it a club for couples?
Thanks.
TC.
I've really never noticed any sign that they're 'dumb', at least no more so than anyone else. Nor that they think differently, nor that prices drop much in low season.I'd just like to point out that there is nothing stupid about these girls, in my experience. They're sharp as tacks business women, certainly by comparison to their opponents - we horny men.
Absolutely. I mean who is ending up with the money. Who has guys sending funds from afar. Who is getting gifts. Who makes more money than most people in Thai society. I hate to break the news to some of you, but it's not the girls who are the dumb ones! They may not have a lot of school education but they have street smarts in spades. They also understand the market for pussy pretty well and understand where they fit into all that. It gets me back to the prior discussion about Beach Road girls who are asking for 500 baht. These girls are not naive about this or in the dark about pricing - this is where they think they are in the food chain of go-go girls, bar girls, night time freelancers and day time freelancers. Girls know exactly what the going prices are and have to judge where they fall within the price ladder. Some may err for a while by asking too much or too little but the economy always adjusts eventually.
Hi.
In a previous report a member mentioned club MixX.
Can someone tell me exactly where it is located in Pattaya.
Also do freelancers work there or is it a club for couples?
Thanks,
TC.Never heard of it but remember, Google is your friend, found on Google
Located on the third floor of the new Bali Hai Plaza shopping center at the foot of the bali Hai Pier, Mixx Nightlife is intended to help raise Pattaya’s entertainment scene to a new level of sophistication.
http://www.mixx-nightlife.com/
Bali Hai plaza shopping is here on the left of picture, at the end of Walking street.
http://www.pattayaphotoguide.com/?UrtRUPpmkcuE
Kim Wheather
06-28-09, 08:36
Hi.
In a previous report a member mentioned club MixX.
Can someone tell me exactly where it is located in Pattaya.
Also do freelancers work there or is it a club for couples?
Thanks.
TC.
I haven't been in Pattaya yet. I will be there about 3 weeks. But I googled and found this site:
http://www.mixx-nightlife.com/
It is located on Soi 1 (Located on the third floor of the new Bali Hai Plaza shopping center at the foot of the bali Hai Pier)
According to the site The Mixx Nightlife Discothek is actually two discos in one, offering 10.000 square feet of pure entertainment.
Mixx is right at the end of Walking St. towards the port, you'll see it on your left, can't miss it. Music is good, r&b room is always full while the house music room is always empty, plenty of girls too. Of course freelancers work there, but unfortunately, nightlife in Pattaya is starting later and later, the place will be alive well over 3am and by that time it is very likely that most of the cute ones will already be there coupled, but still, very good alternative in my view.
Absolutely. I mean who is ending up with the money. Who has guys sending funds from afar. Who is getting gifts. Who makes more money than most people in Thai society. I hate to break the news to some of you, but it's not the girls who are the dumb ones!
The girls are dumb and the only people they outsmart are stupid guys, which is pretty much the majority of those visiting pattaya now days. If they are so smart, why are they supporting their deadbeat boyfriends with the money they earned from selling sex?
They never outsmart me and I will speak for the majority of long term guys in LOS. You can't survive long in this place if you are stupid.
Thais(including all the pros) are not smart people. They are just lucky and spoiled!
The girls are dumb and the only people they outsmart are stupid guys,
Thais(including all the pros) are not smart people. They are just lucky and spoiled!
Perhaps you just prefer being around the dumb ones so that you can maintain your sense of superiority. It must be wonderful being you.
Crocodilexp
06-28-09, 12:30
They never outsmart me and I will speak for the majority of long term guys in LOS. You can't survive long in this place if you are stupid.For some time, I had pretty much the same line of thinking as you did, though I was a bit too polite to put it in words. Then, I got drugged by a Bangkok freelancer and robbed of a huge amount of cash (this in spite of speaking Thai, having great security in my place including CCTV, safe etc.) She looked like the sweetest girl on Earth, but was clearly a professional, and truly good at her job.
Hard way to learn to have a bit more respect for people... Amjeck, for your own good, you need to adjust your attitude before it's too late.
Small update about the Brazilian grill and bar at Central Festival Centre. The name is Zicos and it offers Brazilian Churascoria. That mean for 750 Baht you get 15 different kinds of grilled meat and seafood + Salad Bar + unlimited Caipiroska, as far I understood. Sounds really good and I guess I will try it the next days.
@David 2, I will tell more details when I am off from Pattaya. Since I will stay until middle of July and I will come back to the massage parlour from time to time, it would be stupid from me to tell before. You never know there are alot of guys outside whose book a girl for days or weeks and that would mean I would not see her again during my holiday... I am not a jealous guy and I even would like that this girl would make more money even with other guys, but other guys think often not in the same way and try to keep a girl only for themselfs.
Also, she told me about her boyfriend from Denmark, who send her money and want marry her, so I will answer on your messages and not post in public area.;-)
Perhaps you just prefer being around the dumb ones so that you can maintain your sense of superiority.
No, I don't agree with you there.
Kim Wheather
06-28-09, 17:00
The InternationalSexGuide Forum's Pattaya section has been a kind of philosophical forum in the last days. Discussions about whether Thai women are dumbs or not has been the main issue. What a waste to discuss such an issue, as the answer would be as the answer to the question "whether the bird or the egg is the first one". Well, I would say your answer can never convince nobody whose thoughts are the very opposite of your thougths. Albert Einstein was right: the theory of relativity is true. Or as it was written in Quran: your religion is yours, my religion is mine.
Gentelmen, lets talk about sex and how to reach it!
Kim Wheather
06-28-09, 17:03
Can someone inform about the recent situation of Beach Road women?
I have received no answer for these questions posted a few days ago.
Could someone please try to infome me ?
Thanks in advance.
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Gents,
I'll be in BKK for the last week of July and I'll stay an all week there just for my favorite sports.
I was wondering if Pataya would be worth the visit, leaving BKK in the morning and going back in the evening.
How is the beach?
Could I come alone with my things, abandon them on the sand and go swimming for 15 minutes, and still found them when I come back?
Do they have public showers on the beach to get rid of the salt and sand?
If I want to visit some hot spot during day time with no hotel in Pataya, what would you recommend?
Thanks for your advises.
Kim Wheather
06-28-09, 22:24
Small update about the Brazilian grill and bar at Central Festival Centre.
I would rather hear about the Brazilian girl than Brazilian grill. :-))
Yes, let's get back to more important subjects. Like what is going on at beach road. I will be in LOS next month. Was thinking 3 days BKK and 3 days Pattaya. Kinda like shopping for the FLs on Beach Road. Would appreciate current info or comments
Thanks
you DO understand croc that there is BENEFIT to using a "neutral bedroom" - it sounds like you took her home. A short time room might cost a bit more but it is a LOT easier to only have a minimum amount of money on you and nothing worth stealing. I usually don't carry more than 2000B anyway (less after I spend some of it - ATM card stays in the room safe)
That's one of the benefits to having the ID checked first by a hotel - THEY know who to look for (some of them even make a copy of the ID)
For some time, I had pretty much the same line of thinking as you did, though I was a bit too polite to put it in words. Then, I got drugged by a Bangkok freelancer and robbed of a huge amount of cash (this in spite of speaking Thai, having great security in my place including CCTV, safe etc.) She looked like the sweetest girl on Earth, but was clearly a professional, and truly good at her job.
Hard way to learn to have a bit more respect for people... Amjeck, for your own good, you need to adjust your attitude before it's too late.
Sorry about your experience, but I'm interested in the full story.
Could you tell us exactly how she pulled the heist? Did you have your "huge amount of cash" in your safe? If so, how did she get to it? Or did you have it just lying around in your room? How did she avoid the "great seurity" and CCTV?
The reason I ask is because I too like to take girls back to my place where I feel most comfortable; my building has great security too; and I keep any amounts of cash over 3000 baht or so in my room safe. If a girl tried to steal my laptop computer or any other large items, she'd have to get past security, and that would be difficult.
I have received no answer for these questions posted a few days ago.
Could someone please try to infome me ?
Thanks in advance.
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Gents,
I'll be in BKK for the last week of July and I'll stay an all week there just for my favorite sports.
I was wondering if Pataya would be worth the visit, leaving BKK in the morning and going back in the evening.
How is the beach?
Could I come alone with my things, abandon them on the sand and go swimming for 15 minutes, and still found them when I come back?
Do they have public showers on the beach to get rid of the salt and sand?
If I want to visit some hot spot during day time with no hotel in Pataya, what would you recommend?
Thanks for your advises.Pattaya is worth seeing if you have never been there, but I'm not sure I would bother going for just a few hours. It's about 1.5 - 2 hours each way by taxi, longer by bus.
The beach is not great, and I would not swim in the sea. If you bought a drink on the beach and left your things in the charge of the beach bar then I think they would be safe, except for your Rolex...! Don't remember seeing any showers, but there may be.
With no hotel room your choice is one of the few soapie massage parlours (I've never tried), or a ST in Soi 6 (I've never tried). Perhaps someone else can advise?
My strong advice would be to get a hotel room and stay o/n. Even if you have booked in BKK everything is cheaper in Pattaya and you can probably save the cost with one LT. A good room can be had for under 1000Bht, an OK room for 500+Bht.
...Don't remember seeing any showers, but there may be...
There are several businesses all along Beach Road offering toilet for 5 baht and shower for 10 baht for beach goers, (look for the signs). All the massage parlors allow you to shower before and after an oil or soapy massage. Soi 6 lady bars have rooms upstairs where you can shower.
I like Pattaya much better than BKK for mongering, but don't think it would be worth going there for such a short time. You are better off and will have a lot more fun booking a hotel for at least one or two nights.
Gents,
I'll be in BKK for the last week of July and I'll stay an all week there just for my favorite sports.
I was wondering if Pataya would be worth the visit, leaving BKK in the morning and going back in the evening.
How is the beach?
Could I come alone with my things, abandon them on the sand and go swimming for 15 minutes, and still found them when I come back?
Do they have public showers on the beach to get rid of the salt and sand?
If I want to visit some hot spot during day time with no hotel in Pataya, what would you recommend?
Thanks for your advises.Not sure how long your staying in Bangkok but you really need to spend more time in Pattaya.
If you are sure you just want to go for the day then I would book a cheap room in Pattaya for about 500. 600 baht to enable you to store your clothes and to have somewhere to shower and take a woman for fun.
Sawasdee has rooms from 500 baht (without in room safe) and there are cheaper versions all over the place.
http://sawasdee-hotels.com/pattaya/sawasdee_court/index.html
When I first went to Thailand 5 years ago I stayed for 9 nights in Bangkok, then I read up about Pattaya and have stayed there every year since then (straight from the airport to Pattaya)
Its going to cost you 2400 baht approx for a return taxi, 2. 4 hours out of your life for the travelling. Why bother, spend a couple of days in patts and then next time you go to Thailand you will not bother with Bangkok.
I am 171 days from wheels up, flying premium class on Emirates and I head straight for Pattaya.
Crocodilexp
06-29-09, 10:20
Could you tell us exactly how she pulled the heist? Did you have your "huge amount of cash" in your safe? If so, how did she get to it? Or did you have it just lying around in your room? How did she avoid the "great security" and CCTV? In the interest of general safety, here are a few tips on avoiding getting robbed by a freelancer (posting to this forum since you asked here.- maybe this belongs to General or Safe Sex thread).
* There is no practical way to prevent a freelancer from drugging you. I don't drink, and the only food we shared was a snack that I bought at 7-11. Even with no shared food, they'd find a way. The girl was very sweet.- if you lined up 10 random freelancers she'd be the one I'd *least* suspect of doing it.
* No way to avoid being a target (except never hooking up with any girls, of course). I'm a long-term resident, who speaks Thai and knows his way around, wearing 500 baht worth of MBK clothes and living in a place that's solid but not flashy. I thought I'd just not make a good target. Wrong assumption.
* There was no period of dizziness after being drugged, no time to react. I just remember lying down by her and waking up 18h later.
* Do not use a key-based safe, use a combination-based one (so if she drugs you, she still doesn't know the code). If you must use a key-based safe (I had one provided by the building), hide the key apart from your other keys. Generally, a safe is a mixed-blessing, on one hand it's "safe", on the other it screams "all valuables are here" (especially tricky if you can't fully trust management of the building).
* Make every visitor leave ID with the guard and make sure the guard writes down her info. This is the most important step, *always* do it, no exceptions. I was stupid enough not to do it (in my culture, asking for someone's ID is insulting). Without the ID there is nothing that can be done. CCTV is useless, face will never be clear enough (40x40 blurry pixels at best), and even with clear face shot.- what can police do?
* Security guards are useless, except for writing the details from their ID. My building requires a card swipe on exit, but the guard failed to see that she got out alone (I. E. I didn't open the door for her). She talked to her briefly and let her go.- a cute girl can pass by a guard easily.
To put things into perspective, I'm not saying freelancers in general are dangerous.- but do it enough times, and you'll hit upon a bad one.
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Crocodilexp
06-29-09, 10:29
you DO understand croc that there is BENEFIT to using a "neutral bedroom" - it sounds like you took her home. A short time room might cost a bit more but it is a LOT easier to only have a minimum amount of money on you and nothing worth stealing. I usually don't carry more than 2000B anyway (less after I spend some of it - ATM card stays in the room safe)
That's one of the benefits to having the ID checked first by a hotel - THEY know who to look for (some of them even make a copy of the ID)Thank you for the sensible advice, I know all this after the fact
I dislike using ST rooms. I like to take my time and relax with a girl. And after the deed is done can't be bothered to trek across town. ST places are rarely anywhere close to clean.- rolling in the sheets with 10 other guy's cum on them, and being grossed of touching anything is unappealing. Works fine for a bang-thank-you 10-minute routine, but not for my usual date.
All the cash was in the safe, not on me.- I never carry over 5k baht. She opened the safe, though. ATM cards can be cancelled within minutes and can't be used without a PIN, so they're not a huge concern (except for the inconvenience of not having backup money).
Insisting on the guard / reception keeping the ID *and* writing down the details is the only sensible precaution as far as I see (apart from having a combination safe and not a key-based one).
Thai women are dumbs or not has been the main issue. What a waste to discuss such an issue, as the answer would be as the answer to the question "whether the bird or the egg is the first one".
I agree. Let's move on. We all have our own opinions. I really do believe, however, that these girls are way too spoiled.
For some time, I had pretty much the same line of thinking as you did, though I was a bit too polite to put it in words. Then, I got drugged by a Bangkok freelancer and robbed of a huge amount of cash (this in spite of speaking Thai, having great security in my place including CCTV, safe etc.) She looked like the sweetest girl on Earth, but was clearly a professional, and truly good at her job.
Hard way to learn to have a bit more respect for people... Amjeck, for your own good, you need to adjust your attitude before it's too late.
That sucks big time. Never let your guard down in LOS. No Thai person can be trusted!
Yes, I would also be interested in how it was done. How were you drugged? How did she get into your safe.
Relating the details would help us all.
Thank you.
Sorry about your experience, but I'm interested in the full story.
Could you tell us exactly how she pulled the heist? Did you have your "huge amount of cash" in your safe? If so, how did she get to it? Or did you have it just lying around in your room? How did she avoid the "great seurity" and CCTV?
The reason I ask is because I too like to take girls back to my place where I feel most comfortable; my building has great security too; and I keep any amounts of cash over 3000 baht or so in my room safe. If a girl tried to steal my laptop computer or any other large items, she'd have to get past security, and that would be difficult.
Not sure how long your staying in Bangkok but you really need to spend more time in Pattaya.
If you are sure you just want to go for the day then I would book a cheap room in Pattaya for about 500. 600 baht to enable you to store your clothes and to have somewhere to shower and take a woman for fun.
Sawasdee has rooms from 500 baht (without in room safe) and there are cheaper versions all over the place.
http://sawasdee-hotels.com/pattaya/sawasdee_court/index.html
When I first went to Thailand 5 years ago I stayed for 9 nights in Bangkok, then I read up about Pattaya and have stayed there every year since then (straight from the airport to Pattaya)
Its going to cost you 2400 baht approx for a return taxi, 2. 4 hours out of your life for the travelling. Why bother, spend a couple of days in patts and then next time you go to Thailand you will not bother with Bangkok.
I am 171 days from wheels up, flying premium class on Emirates and I head straight for Pattaya.
Pattaya is worth seeing if you have never been there, but I'm not sure I would bother going for just a few hours. It's about 1.5 - 2 hours each way by taxi, longer by bus.
The beach is not great, and I would not swim in the sea. If you bought a drink on the beach and left your things in the charge of the beach bar then I think they would be safe, except for your Rolex...! Don't remember seeing any showers, but there may be.
With no hotel room your choice is one of the few soapie massage parlours (I've never tried), or a ST in Soi 6 (I've never tried). Perhaps someone else can advise?
My strong advice would be to get a hotel room and stay o/n. Even if you have booked in BKK everything is cheaper in Pattaya and you can probably save the cost with one LT. A good room can be had for under 1000Bht, an OK room for 500+Bht.
There are several businesses all along Beach Road offering toilet for 5 baht and shower for 10 baht for beach goers, (look for the signs). All the massage parlors allow you to shower before and after an oil or soapy massage. Soi 6 lady bars have rooms upstairs where you can shower.
I like Pattaya much better than BKK for mongering, but don't think it would be worth going there for such a short time. You are better off and will have a lot more fun booking a hotel for at least one or two nights.Thanks folks, I appreciate the good sense advise.
Now, I've been 3 times in Bkk and always found it fantastic.
I stayed twice in the Nana hotel with everything I wanted within short walks.
I can still stay 3/4 days at the Nana and then move to Pataya.
What hotel would you recommend that could be compared to the Bkk's Nana ?
I understood from the website that the Sawasdee recommended by Jakemeoff is maybe not the same kind of hotel.
You say that prices are much better in Pattaya than Bkk.
Could I have examples?
MP, ST, LT, ...
Thanks again for any good advices.
* There is no practical way to prevent a freelancer from drugging you. I don't drink, and the only food we shared was a snack that I bought at 7-11. Even with no shared food, they'd find a way. The girl was very sweet.- if you lined up 10 random freelancers she'd be the one I'd *least* suspect of doing it.How is she going to drug you and get your cash if you don't eat the food she brings, don't lick her drug laced tits, don't let her stick her fingers in your mouth, etc?
Yes, I would also be interested in how it was done. How were you drugged? How did she get into your safe.
Relating the details would help us all.
Thank you.He has, check about 5 posts below.
Will be there by end of July, exactly 1 year after firt visit to LOS.
5 days Pattaya, 5 days Phuket, 5 days Bangkok
Can't wait!
Yes, I would also be interested in how it was done. How were you drugged? How did she get into your safe.
Relating the details would help us all.
Thank you.
Not sure how the girl would be able to get into the safe -- she must be a professional safe cracker as well. I can speak from personal experience that 'how you were drugged' is often an unanswerable question. I got drugged at a hotel once (not in Bangkok, but in Thailand) when I didn't even have a girl in the room. It must have been done by hotel staff. I deduced that it must have been put into the complimentary bottle of water that was in the room. They cleaned me out of a bit of cash, my camera and passport. Luckily they left me my debit card, which I was able to use to get myself back to BKK where I was able to get a replacement passport within a few days. The water was the only thing I consumed in the room, and I was alone. If you're there with someone and drink and eat, you can probably just guess what it was that was drugged.
Insisting on the guard / reception keeping the ID *and* writing down the details is the only sensible precaution as far as I see (apart from having a combination safe and not a key-based one).
Oops, I missed this post. Yeah a key-based safe isn't exactly very safe, is it. Only way to keep it secure is to hide the key in a place no one could possibly find. That's a bit of work. And let's face it, it usualy won't occur to most of us to do until the girl is in the room -- and so how do you hide the key well enough that it can't be found WHILE the girl is there with you in the room? I suppose you could wait til she's showering. Anyway, it all seems like a bit of stress that can be avoided by getting a room with a combination safe instead. The last thing I want to be thinking about in a moment like that is finding a good hiding place for a key.
Anyway, it all seems like a bit of stress that can be avoided by getting a room with a combination safe instead. The last thing I want to be thinking about in a moment like that is finding a good hiding place for a key.Yes, that's the answer. Trustworthy hotel security box is another way to go re passports & other valuables, keeping photocopies separate in case shit happens. With bank and credit cards and TCs there is no need to keep much cash on you or in your residence at any time.
What hotel would you recommend that could be compared to the BKK's Nana?
I understood from the website that the Sawasdee recommended by Jakemeoff is maybe not the same kind of hotel.
You say that prices are much better in Pattaya than BKK.
Could I have examples?
MP, ST, LT, .
Thanks again for any good advices.Hi, I do not recommend the Sawasdee hotel, I just pointed it out as a cheap hotel for the day.
Never stayed at the Nana (I stayed at the Grand president in Soi 11) but looking at prices the Nana shows for about 1100 baht per night for the cheapest room.
So to show some hotels in that price range there is the Summer Spring, right on Beach road and a brand new hotel just opened for 1200 baht per night until October, stay 7 nights get one free.
http://www.summerspringhotel.com/accommodation.html
Pattay bay resort, 999 baht per night pay for 6 nights get one free
http://pattayabayresort.com/default. Aspx
Both are good hotels, the Pattaya bay resort is back from the beach behind second road, but very well recommended from people who have stayed there.
In my trips to Pattaya I have stayed in the
Sabai lodge (dolphin pool cottage room)
http://www.sabailodge. Co. Th/dolphin_pool.html
LK Metropole (one bedroom suite)
http://www.lkpattayahotel.com/metropole/accom_1bed.html
Last year I was supposed to stay in the Sandy spring hotel in a seaview suite but because of the problems at Suvarnabhumi airport last christmas I diverted to the Philippines.
So this year I am booked for the Sandy spring seaview suite again and hopefully I will get in there this time as I have wanted that one right on beach road and Soi 13.
http://www.sandyspringhotel.com/
I booked this hotel above from the Scandibar website as they take a booking without needing credit card information before you arrive, you just pay the hotel and scandibar give you a free beer per day at their bar.
http://www.scandibar.com/hotel/
As I said previously, I much prefer Pattaya as its a beach resort and much more fun for me than Bangkok.
AsianChaos
06-30-09, 10:13
Gentemen,
I have mongered extensively in bangkok but only Russian, uzbek, kazak women.
Mostly from CM2, Spasso and sometimes from Spicy.
Now i have never mongered in Pattaya. From what I have read in the forum there are Russian, Uzbek, kazak women available in Pattaya. but no mention of their rating in terms of looks and service.
I know the generally these women do not offer great service but i have been able to extract the service that I want from them.
So my question to senior mongers in Pattaya is are the Russians, uzbeks, kazak, etc better looking in bangkok or Pattaya.
I am planning my next upcoming trip and need to decide to I need to go to pattay or just stay in bangkok like always.
Comments would be appreciated.
Thanks gents.
-AC
Gentemen,
I have mongered extensively in bangkok but only Russian, uzbek, kazak women.
Mostly from CM2, Spasso and sometimes from Spicy.
Now i have never mongered in Pattaya. From what I have read in the forum there are Russian, Uzbek, kazak women available in Pattaya. but no mention of their rating in terms of looks and service.
I know the generally these women do not offer great service but i have been able to extract the service that I want from them.
So my question to senior mongers in Pattaya is are the Russians, uzbeks, kazak, etc better looking in bangkok or Pattaya.
I am planning my next upcoming trip and need to decide to I need to go to pattay or just stay in bangkok like always.
Comments would be appreciated.
Thanks gents.
-AC
I never went with a Russian, Uzbek or kazak Hooker in Thailand, but with Russian tourists girls. Had Ukrainian Hooker in Dubai and there service were quite good.
In Pattaya are alot of Uzbek or Kazak or similar Hooker on walking street and even on beach road. But, they are by far less pretty than what you will find in CM2, Spasso or Spicy. Maybe same standard of what you can find in lower Sukhumvit in BKK.
There are some Russian or CIS girls in Tonis and MixX, I guess they available for money as well, but as far I can say less pretty than in BKK. The pretty ones are definatelly tourists. No, problem to score them if you are charming, good looking and adventurous. Though let me asure you, the Russian Tourist girls don't ask for money, but in the end they are by far more expensive than the most expensive Thai stunner.;-)
Fifty Fifty
06-30-09, 18:55
...................... The pretty ones are definatelly tourists. No, problem to score them if you are charming, good looking and adventurous. Though let me asure you, the Russian Tourist girls don't ask for money, but in the end they are by far more expensive than the most expensive Thai stunner.;-)
Fully agree and can also add that these ''tourists'' can be found most days lounging behind large sunglasses at beaches on Koh Larn, particularly at Samai Beach.
Often seen in skimpy bikinis and topless too, so one can get a look at the goods before trying the 'charm' etc.
Gotta be worth the 20 baht ferry ride.
Cheers, FF
What hotel was it?
Not sure how the girl would be able to get into the safe -- she must be a professional safe cracker as well. I can speak from personal experience that 'how you were drugged' is often an unanswerable question. I got drugged at a hotel once (not in Bangkok, but in Thailand) when I didn't even have a girl in the room. It must have been done by hotel staff. I deduced that it must have been put into the complimentary bottle of water that was in the room. They cleaned me out of a bit of cash, my camera and passport. Luckily they left me my debit card, which I was able to use to get myself back to BKK where I was able to get a replacement passport within a few days. The water was the only thing I consumed in the room, and I was alone. If you're there with someone and drink and eat, you can probably just guess what it was that was drugged.
What hotel was it?
It was in Trat, the one right next to the bus station, by the market, same side of street. A dump but I wasn't up for wandering around looking for something better carrying all my luggage with me. Was only going to be there one night, catching another bus to Cambodia border in morning. Well, that was the original plan anyway.
Rubberyman
07-01-09, 06:53
Soi 6 - I went to a few of the bars there and was quoted in the order of 300-400 for the onsite room and 500-700 for the lady to 'go uptair?' Negotiable of course. Seemed like there were plenty of ladies to go round so negotiable means down. However, I saw one expat really screw the price down. The look on the TG face when he was not observing did not bode well for the final level of service. (There is such a thing as being too clever by half). Beers 60-80B for a small bottle.
I thought it a nice touch in one of the bars when one of the ladies went 'uptair' with a 'fren', one of the other ladies changed the song being played to 'F**k Her Gently'. (Which tells me that some of them are quite clever enough, thank you).
Nice cheap steak in the British pub half way along the Soi. Cost about 300B and 95B for imported half pints beer.
Idle wondering. Has anyone ever worried about getting brained by falling coconuts on Beach Road?
Was quoted 1700B for the time in one of the 2nd Rd places near Soi 1/2 (Sabailand??? - my lamentable memory). Ladies selection ordinary imo. Not into silicon at all.
When I finally managed to get to Angelwitch, on my last day, I was stunned to see the knockout beauty and sex appeal of some of the numbered girls on stage. I'm a merciless connoisseur when it comes to women, which meant I usually chose the go go-girls instead of the bargirls. However, some of the Angelwitch-girls blew the gogo-girls I had seen clear out of the water. I'm talking about the ones with a number tag, not the dancers, guess they're not generally available. However, it was my last night and I already had a date, so I was unable to get anything out of it. I still remember their numbers, even though it's months ago since I left: 1, 2, 12, 75 and 82. Etched in my mind, perfect manga 18-23 year old vixens.
Now that I'm going back I'm looking to make them blow more than just my mind this time. What's the price? Any strategies except telling which one to come over? I'm a bit amazed that these girls are for hire, when they could use their looks to earn a good living in other ways, or become some rich schmuck's lover instead. I guess they will cause significant hemorrhage to my wallet, but I don't care. My life's purpose has become to nail as many women of this quality as possible, and I'll go through hell to get there.
Fifty Fifty
07-01-09, 16:09
When I finally managed to get to Angelwitch, on my last day, I was stunned to see the knockout beauty and sex appeal of some of the numbered girls on stage................
................What's the price? Any strategies except telling which one to come over? I'm a bit amazed that these girls are for hire, when they could use their looks to earn a good living in other ways, or become some rich schmuck's lover instead. I guess they will cause significant hemorrhage to my wallet, but I don't care. My life's purpose has become to nail as many women of this quality as possible, and I'll go through hell to get there.
Well for your life's purpose you are IMHO in the right place, look around and these kind of girls are available all over Pattaya.
As for the Angelwitch girls, I was there a couple of weeks ago and remember some of the 'numbers' you quoted.
If you play it well they will not cause as much damage to your wallet as you may think.
It is easy, just invite any one you fancy down for a (lady) drink - cost is 150 THB, then start negotiating with her asap. LT if you can get it, or in fact need it (depends on the time of night) will be around 2000 THB. If she fits your bill then 'barfine' her for 600 THB paid to the Mamasan, then depart with her to do as you wish.
Alternative methods are dodgy but work well on occasions. After inviting her down for the drink, tell her you are busy but want to see her later or next day and see if you can get her mobile number. If she is caught giving it to you then she will get into trouble.
A better method I used was to have my own (local mobile) number printed out on small strips of paper which I show the girl and then conceal in a 20 THB tip. Do this to a few girls in different bars and wait for them to SMS or call you later that night or next day. It obviously avoids the barfines and often negotiations work out much cheaper as she will not be busy and in need of the cash.
Whichever way you do it, they are there for the taking and price is the only factor, although some can work out cheaper than others.
Cheers, FF
Thanks a lot, Fifty Fifty. Around 2000 thb for a superstar at Pattaya's best strip club sounds a bit hopeful to me, but I'm no old Pattaya hand, so you may be right. Would be really great if it was so. I spent a few nights looking for diamonds, but I didn't see many approaching that standard, and certainly not 5 of them at the same place. Maybe I was just dumbstruck by the music and the show. Anyway, thanks again.
This place is a rip off. Be careful. Unattractive girls for a large amount of money. Run by a couple of cowboys. This place was shut down by the police a few months ago, but it has now reopened. Much cheaper and better options in Pattaya.
Thanks a lot, Fifty Fifty. Around 2000 thb for a superstar at Pattaya's best strip club sounds a bit hopeful to me, but I'm no old Pattaya hand, so you may be right. Would be really great if it was so. I spent a few nights looking for diamonds, but I didn't see many approaching that standard, and certainly not 5 of them at the same place. Maybe I was just dumbstruck by the music and the show. Anyway, thanks again.Maybe Fifty is a young handsome stud who can wow the TGs.
In BKK 2K will get you about one hour or a ST, not LT which if she is even open to will be at least 3K if your very lucky.
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