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There is nothing that says you have to buy anybody any drinks. It is free to get in the club/bar whatever. Buying drinks for yourself ensures they can keep the doors open and the lights and A/C on. I am one guy that has always said that lady drinks are for suckers. With that being said, I do understand the purpose of lady drinks and it ain't to interview a chick. You can ask her questions and touch on her as long as she stands there without buying her a damn thing.
Besides getting a regular salary, lady drinks is the way that the ladies make money. They are not there drinking just for the pleasure of it, so you buying a bottle for yourself does shit for them. They are looking for customers that they can make money from, not drinking buddies. I do not know many people that are trying to sit in the bar with the same hooker for 2 hours, and the hooker definitely is not trying to do it if the baht are not adding up. Imagine yourself working at a car dealership and someone comes in and wants to test drive cars all day long with no intention of buying one. You work off commission and would not want to waste your day on that bullshit. Same thing with lady drinks. So you are either paying a bar fine that secures her earnings for the night, or you are buying her lady drinks that will do the same.
The last couple of months I was messing with a chick that worked at a gogo bar on LK Metro. Every so often I would come in and buy her and her best friend a drink. (Why not? She wanted to come see me everyday and I never had to give her any money.) They would make 50 baht from each lady drink. When that drink was gone the mamasan would come along and make them get up and leave if I was not buying them another drink. And I definitely was not doing that.Thanks for your reply. As always, straight to the point. I asked because I didn't know how things work in Thailand. What I get from your reply is that the girl doesn't get any commission if I buy a bottle.
I can easily see myself spending some time with a girl in a gogo bar watching the dancers and having a few laughs and not just going in, picking up a girl and running away with her for a LT to my hotel room. Of course there is a price to pay for that company and that's why I'm asking, to know how high that price would be. Drinking that bottle of whisky, sitting alone, in a bar full of prostitutes is not the kind of fun I'm looking for when I travel abroad and neither am I looking for the company of other mongers. Nothing against having a few beers with fellow mongers, but that's it. I'm definitely not a Cheap Charlie, that wasn't the reason for me asking, but I like to know more or less how much things cost before I travel.
If I can stay 6-7 hours in a clinica in SP, drinking and having fun with a girl and only nutting once or twice, I'm sure I can be a sucker and invite a girl some watered down drinks to keep me company. Just wanted to have an idea how much that could be.
Reminds me of when I was in Florida and another board member took me to a strip club. I asked the chick right off how much to fuck her. She told me to get a couple of dances first then talk about it. I said what kind of moron do you think I am? Why would I blow the money I plan on using to fuck you on getting dances from you? If I get you to the room you will end up dancing for free anyway.Did you get her or any stripper while you were in Florida to come back to your room using that Thailand game? Was it, like the bros on these boards like to say, "A Top Tier Strip Club"?
Mr Enternational
04-05-18, 05:41
Thanks for your reply. As always, straight to the point. I asked because I didn't know how things work in Thailand. What I get from your reply is that the girl doesn't get any commission if I buy a bottle.It is not even a common thing to see anyone purchase a bottle of whiskey in an agogo bar or beer bar. I can not say that I have ever seen it. It is a more common thing in the discos. Same as you read in the reports, most guys go out and hop from one agogo or beer bar to another; they don't just settle into one for the evening. There are hundreds of agogo and beer bars in Pattaya. To me they are rather boring, but to each their own.
Also the girl and her friend got fired from the agogo last month because a guy came in and was buying them a lot of drinks but they didn't get him to buy any for the mamasan. The mamasan got jealous and told them they could not work there anymore. So if you are sitting with the same chick for a long time prepare to hear a lot of, "Buy dink for friend me/my sister/or whoever else may be in the room."
Hi guys,
I have never been to Thailand, but it may be the destination of my next trip. I have spent a lot of time reading the forum and I'm wondering how many lady drinks these hustlers would typically drink, if they sit at my table for couple of hours in a go go or a normal bar? Yes, I know they will drink as many as I buy them, but my rule in some other countries has been that the girl cannot drink faster than me. One drink for me and one drink for her.
Another question is, if I buy a bottle of whisky in a go go bar, will the girl drink that, or do I still have to buy her those watered down lady drinks?
Cheers,.The cheapest option would be to pour up with disco girls who are not receiving commission or barfining a girl and pouring up in your room.
After spending a few weeks in both Pattaya and Phuket (Patong) I have done a comparision list based on my experiences with the most important things first and the less important things last.
1. Girls look.
More attractive girls in Phuket. Phuket girls are generally more good looking and hot than the girls in Pattaya. Phuket girls are mostly also more friendly, funny and easy-going than the girls of Pattaya. Double points to Phuket! Pattaya-Phuket: 0-2..Respectfully your opinions are skewed which is fine. I detect you slightly prefer Phuket. I went to the top soapy in Phuket and 95% of the girls were older than me. Less guys to compete with in Phuket. But stunners will cost you.
Good overview, but I might disagree with the conclusions. For one, you give equal ratings to each comparison point. Some of use would assign a different weighting factor. For example, I don't drink much, so I really couldn't care less on how much the drinks are. And I don't care so much about the quality of the discos, only if they have available women in them! And while Patong is relative small in geographical area, I like that Pattaya has three major areas that are easily accessible by baht bus. And one factor you did not consider was simply the shear number of available girls in Pattaya. It is overwhelming! So while the relative percentage of hot girls on Bangla Road may exceed that on WS, the fact that there are so many more girls on WS means that the total number of hot girls there exceeds that on Bangla. True, there are more men as well to compete with, but I feel the overall opportunity to monger successfully in Pattaya is superior. A factor as well is the ease of getting to Pattaya from Bangkok. You can leave BKK and be on Soi 6 in around 2 hours for 1200 baht (more or less). To get to Phuket, you almost need to fly there (several thousand baht), with a 2 to 3 hour layover in BKK, the flight, then waiting for luggage in HKT and getting a ride in for around 800 baht. Plus the reverse leaving.Thanks for your response Hawk! I was considering weighting points but decided its better to let everyone do their own "weighting" based on personal preferences.
My experience is that even though there are more girls in Pattaya than in Phuket, I saw a greater number of hot ladies in Phuket.
Yes, its'easier to go from Bangkok to Pattaya than to Phuket. But there are also direct flights from many countries in Europe to Phuket.
Exactly. When I was in Phuket in December the disco were full of regular tourists, male and female. I was like what time do the hookers get here. It seemed that the internet was the best way to get hookers in Phuket. Where do you get chicks there before night time? The only place I knew was at a few massgae parlors on the soi that I have since forgotten the name of. And I think that soapy place was like 5000 baht. You can have Phuket. I will keep my mongering skills in Pattaya.I visited all the night clubs at Bangla Road and there was a lots of hookers in all of them, maybe with the exception of White Room night club where it was mostly tourists. Regarding day time mongering I can recommend the massage shops in Phuket which is actually another hugh plus for Phuket. The streets are full of massage shops and many of them have young hot ladies working there and full service are almost always on offer.
I visited many massage shops while there. Price for full service between 1. 000-1. 500 baht. However, in Pattaya I didn't visit any massage shop since I could find any attractive girls in any of them. I have tried soapie in Pattaya once before and will not do it again. Overpriced and without any feeling.
It would be helpful to know which bars / gogos you visited in Phuket and Pattaya to make your comparison. If you can tell me there are better looking girls in Phuket than in Pattaya gogo bars like Infinity, Palace, and Baccara or even What's Up, Imagine, Sapphire, Sensations, Happy, Nui 2, Ginza, Skyfall, etc. I'm all ears but from everything I hear from friends visiting Phuket this is definitely not the case.Phuket: Visited most gogos. Suzi Wong was my favourite with a lots of hot ladies, a lots of action and a funny vibe.
Pattaya: Visited many gogos at Walking Street and a few at LK. Among the ones you mention: Palace, Skyfall, Baccara, Sapphire. And those were actually the best I found in Pattaya.
Phuket: Tiger 1 bar area, Tiger 2 Bar area, Soi Seadragon Bar street, several bars along Bangla Road.
Pattaya: Made in Thailand Bar area, Soi Diana bars, several bars along and around Walking Street, soi 6-7-8 bars.
It is not even a common thing to see anyone purchase a bottle of whiskey in an agogo bar or beer bar. I can not say that I have ever seen it. It is a more common thing in the discos. Same as you read in the reports, most guys go out and hop from one agogo or beer bar to another; they don't just settle into one for the evening. There are hundreds of agogo and beer bars in Pattaya. To me they are rather boring, but to each their own.
Also the girl and her friend got fired from the agogo last month because a guy came in and was buying them a lot of drinks but they didn't get him to buy any for the mamasan. The mamasan got jealous and told them they could not work there anymore. So if you are sitting with the same chick for a long time prepare to hear a lot of, "Buy dink for friend me/my sister/or whoever else may be in the room."OK thanks. Now I understand it better. I have no problem buying some drinks for a girl who keeps me company, but wouldn't do that to a mamasan.
Banana Boi
04-05-18, 09:05
OK thanks. Now I understand it better. I have no problem buying some drinks for a girl who keeps me company, but wouldn't do that to a mamasan.Don't overbuy drinks and please don't buy drinks for the girl's "sister". No matter how similar they may look it isn't her sister! At the very most buy drinks once every set whether it be 20 or 30 minutes. Don't buy drinks for a girl who is just sitting their on her ass. If there is no DFK, HJ, or at least a ton of mutual groping move on to the next girl. Imo the worst guys who go to gogo bars are the ones who buy drinks for the waitresses who are as wide as they are tall. Why?!
As for bringing a bottle to a gogo bar, I have only seen this once at Baccara in Pattaya. A young decent looking farang bought a bottle and girls were all over him. I'm pretty sure it was because they wanted to be with the farang more than drinking from his bottle. As mentioned, the girls make no money from drinking his alcohol but he may have been tipping them all.
Hotman 666
04-05-18, 10:42
It is not even a common thing to see anyone purchase a bottle of whiskey in an agogo bar or beer bar. I can not say that I have ever seen it. It is a more common thing in the discos. Hi Mr. E,
Just one slight disagreement.
I was in Pattaya a couple of weeks ago with two friends.
Most evenings we had a couple of drinks at a bar beer on 2nd Rd next to night market.
We bought several bottles of Thai whisky there at 800 Baht per bottle. We then only paid for mixers.
Moma San wrote our name on the label and each evening when we left would keep the bottle behind the bar ready for our return.
Quite a cheap and convenient way to drink. Some of the bar girls also bought their empty glasses round for a nip. (NO lady drink charges!
I also remember seeing, at another bar a sign saying that bottles would be kept for one month.
Next time you are in a bar beer then just ask. You may be supprised on how many offer this service.
Hotman.
I just remembered several go go's had a full bottle option on the menu. I seem to remember that the price was around 3000 Baht! NOT such a good deal.
LittleBigMan
04-05-18, 13:40
There is nothing that says you have to buy anybody any drinks. It is free to get in the club/bar whatever. Buying drinks for yourself ensures they can keep the doors open and the lights and A/C on. I am one guy that has always said that lady drinks are for suckers. That is probably because when I go out I am hunting for pussy and not just trying to hang out and drink. So I know how to approach a chick right off to ask about going with me without all the drinks and small talk. With that being said, I do understand the purpose of lady drinks and it ain't to interview a chick. You can ask her questions and touch on her as long as she sits or stands there without buying her a damn thing.
Reminds me of when I was in Florida and another board member took me to a strip club. I asked the chick right off how much to fuck her. She told me to get a couple of dances first then talk about it. I said what kind of moron do you think I am? Why would I blow the money I plan on using to fuck you on getting dances from you? If I get you to the room you will end up dancing for free anyway. In this case, why would I blow the money I am planning to use to fuck the chick on buying a bunch of lady drinks when I have 30 bottles of liquor in my room?
Besides getting a regular salary, lady drinks is the way that the ladies make money. They are not there drinking just for the pleasure of it, so you buying a bottle for yourself does shit for them. They are looking for customers that they can make money from, not drinking buddies. I do not know many people that are trying to sit in the bar with the same hooker for 2 hours, and the hooker definitely is not trying to do it if the baht are not adding up.
Imagine yourself working at a car dealership and someone comes in and wants to test drive cars all day long with no intention of buying one. You work off commission and would not want to waste your day on that bullshit. Same thing with lady drinks. So you are either paying a bar fine that secures her earnings for the night, or you are buying her lady drinks that will do the same. It is more her making a living, not hustling you as you have put it.
The last couple of months I was messing with a chick that worked at a gogo bar on LK Metro. Every so often I would come in and buy her and her best friend a drink. (Why not? She wanted to come see me everyday and I never had to give her any money.) They would make 50 baht from each lady drink. (From 6 drinks per night, they have already made the Thai minimum wage for high school graduates.) When that drink was gone the mamasan would come along and make them get up and leave if I was not buying them another drink. And I definitely was not doing that.
In a beer bar it is a bit different. The bar would generally be a U-shape with the girls corralled inside of it. In this situation there is really no place for the girls to go and they will sit there all day long and play Connect Four with you even if you do not buy them a drink.Maybe I'm bored or my hormones are changing? Been that way for a while. I go out visit GoGo's at night just to get out do a rotation W. S. L. K. Since they change all the time. 99.9% of them I rarely buy LD rarely do I BF even when they lower the price for me. I have a better time knocking down a bottle of hot Saka out front of Happy Go Go watching the freelancers deal with the Indians cruising by?
In the past and still my favorite place I seen customer bring their own bottle usually is something expensive. Not sure what the club advantage but I think the customer pays for the ice and chaser which I would think has a big mark up they aren't going to make a lot of money if they don't. I also noticed that usually the guys that bring their own bottles are regulars so the girls who know them drink with them. What I do know is some of these girls have been BF before by these customers so they drink hoping again or they introduce new one's to the customer. In return, I seen these customer tip the girls for their company 100-500 baht for their time seen a guy give a 1000.
It is no longer about the pussy for me but today I have no problem buying lady drinks even for the so call sister, ugly, Toms, mamasan, manager at one particular Go Go, when I go I know I'm going to spend. When it comes to any other club if a Mamasan ever ask me for a drink or a tip gives me a hard time I usually just smile don't say a word and go on with what I'm doing as if she isn't there. But when it is time for me to leave it would normally be a while before I return. At my favorite place I visit when I'm really bored at all given hours and when I do after a hour or so my cup is running over with drink slips, there have been times my bin is 5-7,000 and end up having a great time sitting and be. Sing with the girls and regular.
Maybe so bored I need a challenge again. Heard Pre-season Softball is coming again so I'm getting ready for the opener!
Hi guys,
I have never been to Thailand, but it may be the destination of my next trip. I have spent a lot of time reading the forum and I'm wondering how many lady drinks these hustlers would typically drink, if they sit at my table for couple of hours in a go go or a normal bar? Yes, I know they will drink as many as I buy them, but my rule in some other countries has been that the girl cannot drink faster than me. One drink for me and one drink for her.
Another question is, if I buy a bottle of whisky in a go go bar, will the girl drink that, or do I still have to buy her those watered down lady drinks?
Cheers,.Don't knock the "watered down" drinks so much. I know, you are charged too much for a lady drink and you hate to see it's value diminished because they water it down, but consider how many drinks these girls down each month! Now consider the number of calories they would be consuming if those were full-strength! If you realize that they may be consuming half to 100% of the daily caloric needs from alcohol and sugar, then you should realize they will have a weight problem! And while many mongerors don't care about these ladies and their health, think about what too much alcohol does does to one's liver! So yeah, the value of the LD is a fraction of what you are paying, but the purpose of the drink is to let you meet a pretty lady in a safe location so as to get her to have sex with you.
And while the girls will indeed try to get you to buy drinks for others, they are doing so to help their friends to meet their quotas. It is no problem for you to decline the friend. But don't automatically knock buying the mamasan a drink. It might be a good strategy in some situations. If she likes you, she will get you the girl you want, and if the girl has seen you are friends with the mamasun, the odds of a good performance are better. And if you can get her to sit down with you, the stories you can get will be worth the price.
Oh, one thing that bugs most of us, but it is how things are, is that once it is time for the girl to dance, she will leave you to take the stage. Even if you have just ordered her a drink and it hasn't even arrived yet, she will leave you. And if some dude, maybe the dude who got the mamasan a drink, asks to see her after the dance, guess where the girl will go? Yep, she will come pick up her drink, maybe apologize, and go sit with the other dude. If it happens, don't bother getting upset. It is how things are. That is a rule you can't change. (This is why it is best to catch a girl right after she has left the stage. Otherwise, ask her how until her next dance before you buy a drink.).
StLouisMo2010
04-07-18, 06:44
I'm a "young man," mid-70's. Been going to Thailand for 20 years. I've tried all the venues, most of them written about by members over the years. I haven't posted much because I haven't had much to add. But now I'm struggling with how to proceed on my next trip, 2 weeks in mid-May. Raincoats are a big problem at this age and have been for several years, almost no feeling. But BB is a health risk so I've opted for HJ's lately. Tried a Thai GF for several trips, she loves money more than me. I'm in really good shape, walk a lot, like to dance, like all music. I don't drink very much, mostly soda, and don't smoke. I'm about 5'5" with weight proportional; I attract women 50 and over on TF but I can get that at home. Also I don't trust TF, not my generation. So my question: what are you older guys doing?? And where?I am a young man also, 68, currently on my seventh trip to Thailand. I understand your narrative, I found staying at a decent hotel, currently in Jomtien Beach, helps enjoy the area and restfulness. Have met some good people here versus the throngs in Pattaya. I have concentrated on ThaiFriendly ladies, age range 35 to 43 seems to be ideal, and do not repeat more than twice. Sometimes overnight generally 10 AM for two hours. Have also found a new raincoat by Trojan called her pleasure ecstasy which I have really enjoyed and made the sessions quite good.
Furthermore I have found that there is so much good food in this area that can be fun finding good cuisine. I too am in pretty good shape, but half of a little pill also enhances the sessions.
I took in walking street last night, with thousands of the Bros from across the bay as well as hundreds of tourists with trade War issues with my homeland who were overall outlandish. Walking street is not my thing however did stop in to a gogo something called electric something and found them very friendly and a great lineup of ladies who were not at all pushy, I would return to watch and feel, and telling the ladies upfront that I'm not going to bar fine them they would smile sit for a while and then say bye-bye, all is good with me.
Also have found foot massage at 200 baht ($6)/ HR Is one of the best values available, and there are more massage parlors with with this on offer than there are Indian restaurants.
Was in bed at 12:30, breakfast around 8:30, ThaiFriendly lady at 10 with One hour notice from my files.
Off to my massage.
Cheers.
StLouisMo2010
04-07-18, 08:35
Different strokes for different folks.
My percentage of doable girls at TF is definately much higher, so my approach to find a girl and my preferences obviously is different than yours. So there might be no common rule for "good" girls available at TF.Very well said, different strokes for different folks, I created a file of about 80 over the past year, so with attrition down to 50 now on the ground I have had 10 the past week and have a waiting list, they are good like minks in heat and most very nice trying to make a few extra baht.
I am a young man also, 68, currently on my seventh trip to Thailand. I understand your narrative, Cheers.I'm not much of a drinker and I get enough politics at home so I try to avoid all of those conversations. I like Pattaya for the music, dancing, energy and I re-live my youth that way, mostly on WS but I'll gladly go to local places if I can find some local girl to take me to them. I still can, I consider myself lucky, so I do. I find LT to be a real problem the past 2-3 years in that the girls either flat-out leave at 4-5 AM or find an excuse to go. No point in arguing as I don't want them to stay and make my life miserable at that point but now I'm doing ST to avoid this. I like the massages, with and without he. I get bored being alone, traveling alone, so for the last 2 years I've tried to hook up for several days to as much as two weeks. But it isn't working out very well so next trip in May I'm going back to ST only. I do try the gentlemen's clubs but for the most part I find the girls unattractive. I like youngish, 21-35, spinner type body plans. I'm going to try Kinnaree again next trip, it's just a hassle to get there. Also I like small music bars, open to the street with or without freelancers present. I found one on 2nd street just north of LK Metro. The singer is really good and the girls are friendly. I'm not comfortable with TF although I'm thinking that I should try it. I worry about fake pictures and fake weights. I do get a lot of responses from 45-55 year olds, almost always overweight and very old-looking even at that age. And I don't know what to say, they don't write much English. And I also worry about getting into physical trouble or getting an STD from BR girls. So it goes. It seemed much easier when I was younger, maybe I just worried less! Thanks for your note, I enjoyed reading it!
So I went to Pattaya and headed to to Sappire, saw a girl liked asked her age she said it was 22 and asked the waiter to confirm the age too haha. I also asked five times afterwards. Took her to the hotel, didn't check her in since the staff were probably at the back. Did the business twice, used a condom and pulled out even with the condom right before I finished. Wanted to be super safe. After that I paid her the fee and gave 200 baht extra for cab, she was happy hugged me and asked me go again tomorrow, I declined since I just wanted to have that experience off the bucket list. Was in Pattaya for two extra days chilled and left to other parts of Thailand. Didn't swap any details with her.
After reading posts of scams and all just wondering if I should expect any concerns from the meeting? Or I should chill the f out and enjoy my trip.
Hey guys,
I got in last week and around here for about 2 months or so.
My concern is about the songkran. Did some research and ask a bunch of girls but all mixed responses.
Is Songkran really going to be a week long thing in Pattaya and are bars and walking street clubs closed for that period?
Is there any place in Thailand I could go to avoid Songkran. I love the festivity but want to avoid the water. I easily get cold and want to avoid getting sick.
It's 180 baht in a grab Taxi and about 15 minutes from Central Pattaya.
I'm not much of a drinker and I get enough politics at home so I try to avoid all of those conversations. I like Pattaya for the music, dancing, energy and I re-live my youth that way, mostly on WS but I'll gladly go to local places if I can find some local girl to take me to them. I still can, I consider myself lucky, so I do. I find LT to be a real problem the past 2-3 years in that the girls either flat-out leave at 4-5 AM or find an excuse to go. No point in arguing as I don't want them to stay and make my life miserable at that point but now I'm doing ST to avoid this. I like the massages, with and without he. I get bored being alone, traveling alone, so for the last 2 years I've tried to hook up for several days to as much as two weeks. But it isn't working out very well so next trip in May I'm going back to ST only. I do try the gentlemen's clubs but for the most part I find the girls unattractive. I like youngish, 21-35, spinner type body plans. I'm going to try Kinnaree again next trip, it's just a hassle to get there. Also I like small music bars, open to the street with or without freelancers present. I found one on 2nd street just north of LK Metro. The singer is really good and the girls are friendly. I'm not comfortable with TF although I'm thinking that I should try it. I worry about fake pictures and fake weights. I do get a lot of responses from 45-55 year olds, almost always overweight and very old-looking even at that age. And I don't know what to say, they don't write much English. And I also worry about getting into physical trouble or getting an STD from BR girls. So it goes. It seemed much easier when I was younger, maybe I just worried less! Thanks for your note, I enjoyed reading it!
So I went to Pattaya and headed to to Sappire, saw a girl liked asked her age she said it was 22 and asked the waiter to confirm the age too haha. I also asked five times afterwards. Took her to the hotel, didn't check her in since the staff were probably at the back. Did the business twice, used a condom and pulled out even with the condom right before I finished. Wanted to be super safe. After that I paid her the fee and gave 200 baht extra for cab, she was happy hugged me and asked me go again tomorrow, I declined since I just wanted to have that experience off the bucket list. Was in Pattaya for two extra days chilled and left to other parts of Thailand. Didn't swap any details with her.
After reading posts of scams and all just wondering if I should expect any concerns from the meeting? Or I should chill the f out and enjoy my trip.Mkhizzy.
What do you have to be worried about? It is common for the girls to want to repeat with you particulary if you are nice and have some fun. The only thing that I would have done differently is have her checked by security when coming back to your hotel. You are cautious then most guys so I don't think you will have a child running around the villages of Issan or bringing back an unwanted disease. Do you remember the girls name or number and how much was the encounter and was Short time or long time?
Thanks Rob.
UltraHappy
04-08-18, 22:47
So I went to Pattaya and headed to to Sappire, saw a girl liked asked her age she said it was 22 and asked the waiter to confirm the age too haha. I also asked five times afterwards. Took her to the hotel, didn't check her in since the staff were probably at the back. Did the business twice, used a condom and pulled out even with the condom right before I finished. Wanted to be super safe. After that I paid her the fee and gave 200 baht extra for cab, she was happy hugged me and asked me go again tomorrow, I declined since I just wanted to have that experience off the bucket list. Was in Pattaya for two extra days chilled and left to other parts of Thailand. Didn't swap any details with her.
After reading posts of scams and all just wondering if I should expect any concerns from the meeting? Or I should chill the f out and enjoy my trip.I would be very worried. Probably a total scam. Her family is probably in the process of hunting you down right now. They are probably working in tandem with the police. You are probably already in the Interpol database. If I were you, I would burn your passport (probably can't travel on it anymore) and all of your identity cards. Live off the grid somewhere in a remote forest where they can't find you. After about 20 years or so, maybe the heat will have died down a bit, and you may be able to come out of hiding then. Can't ever be too safe.
I would be very worried. Probably a total scam. Her family is probably in the process of hunting you down right now. They are probably working in tandem with the police. You are probably already in the Interpol database. If I were you, I would burn your passport (probably can't travel on it anymore) and all of your identity cards. Live off the grid somewhere in a remote forest where they can't find you. After about 20 years or so, maybe the heat will have died down a bit, and you may be able to come out of hiding then. Can't ever be too safe.Hahaha. Maybe I have been too careless in the past. I even use my correct first name!
Hi.
Has anyone been to TQ lately? I like the idea of a gogo being opened mid afternoon. Is it on par to the orher gogos in regards to nakedness when dancing and being able to handle and finger when buying them lady drinks?
Any other feedback is welcome.
Thanks Rob.
LittleBigMan
04-09-18, 02:07
Hey guys,
I got in last week and around here for about 2 months or so.
My concern is about the songkran. Did some research and ask a bunch of girls but all mixed responses.
Is Songkran really going to be a week long thing in Pattaya and are bars and walking street clubs closed for that period?
Is there any place in Thailand I could go to avoid Songkran. I love the festivity but want to avoid the water. I easily get cold and want to avoid getting sick.Depends where you are staying. But in Pattaya the biggest problem with Songkran it last too long. Looking at the calender it will start around the 13th, 14th, down on Beach Road, you will find it heavy from Soi 5, down to Soi 9, Central Festival then in front of Royal Garden into Soi 13/2 etc.
Also up and down Second Road, really heavy on the popular Soi like 6,7,8, Everywhere it will be spotted here and there as I call it. As you get to the 17th, it spreads outside to the other areas, South Jomtien, North Naklau, East on the Darkside, 18th, further North to Laem Chabang, Siracha, Bang Seng, spreads into Sukhumvit on the 19th, it is pretty much full blown traffic will be bumper to bumper and if you are a die hard you can go South towards Sattahip Bang Saray and get a extra day on the 20th.
At night especially in the popular area like Walking Street you will get hit from time to time from the tourist with the water guns. Whether you like it or not try wearing material like they wear for Golf, dry rite material, it looks good and dry fast. Go to 7/11 they will be selling small plastic hang around your neck plastic covers for your valuable. I usually take a small plastic bag and put my phone inside same with my small wallet. Even if you don't wear glasses go to a cheap stall or shop and pick up a cheap pair of reading glass, get the lowest number wear them just to protect your eye and wear a hat.
Crocodilexp
04-09-18, 02:32
It's 180 baht in a grab Taxi and about 15 minutes from Central Pattaya.That's outrageous for the <5 km ride to Kinnaree. Is Grab already extorting passengers one day after Uber shut down? Same distance would have cost 55 baht in Bangkok (metered taxi).
Mkhizzy.
What do you have to be worried about? It is common for the girls to want to repeat with you particulary if you are nice and have some fun. The only thing that I would have done differently is have her checked by security when coming back to your hotel. You are cautious then most guys so I don't think you will have a child running around the villages of Issan or bringing back an unwanted disease. Do you remember the girls name or number and how much was the encounter and was Short time or long time?
Thanks Rob.Haha OK so I am just being paranoid and should just chill out. I paid 4 K, don't remember the name or number.
Holy moly!
Not a good time to be around here for that week then.
Do you recommend any other city where things are easy?
My early plan was to duck it out in BKK but not sure how it goes down there.
Depends where you are staying. But in Pattaya the biggest problem with Songkran it last too long. Looking at the calender it will start around the 13th, 14th, down on Beach Road, you will find it heavy from Soi 5, down to Soi 9, Central Festival then in front of Royal Garden into Soi 13/2 etc.
Also up and down Second Road, really heavy on the popular Soi like 6,7,8, Everywhere it will be spotted here and there as I call it. As you get to the 17th, it spreads outside to the other areas, South Jomtien, North Naklau, East on the Darkside, 18th, further North to Laem Chabang, Siracha, Bang Seng, spreads into Sukhumvit on the 19th, it is pretty much full blown traffic will be bumper to bumper and if you are a die hard you can go South towards Sattahip Bang Saray and get a extra day on the 20th.
At night especially in the popular area like Walking Street you will get hit from time to time from the tourist with the water guns. Whether you like it or not try wearing material like they wear for Golf, dry rite material, it looks good and dry fast. Go to 7/11 they will be selling small plastic hang around your neck plastic covers for your valuable. I usually take a small plastic bag and put my phone inside same with my small wallet. Even if you don't wear glasses go to a cheap stall or shop and pick up a cheap pair of reading glass, get the lowest number wear them just to protect your eye and wear a hat.
Christian G
04-09-18, 09:07
Is Songkran really going to be a week long thing in Pattaya and are bars and walking street clubs closed for that period?Yes, Songkran in Pattaya is from 12/13 April till 19 April. And no, bars and clubs are not closed, but some places will be closed on 18th and 19th.
I find LT to be a real problem the past 2-3 years in that the girls either flat-out leave at 4-5 AM or find an excuse to go. No point in arguing as I don't want them to stay and make my life miserable at that point but now I'm doing ST to avoid this.So you want the girl to stay for days? Pick a girl and take her friend as well. They can entertain each other gabbing and ordering room service and whatnot. But when you are ready for action they bend over quick.
I did this last time I went to Subic Bay. Me and the girls had a blast bar hopping, singing karaoke, dining, and banging. No reason the same formula won't work in Pattaya.
LittleBigMan
04-09-18, 11:50
Yes, Songkran in Pattaya is from 12/13 April till 19 April. And no, bars and clubs are not closed, but some places will be closed on 18th and 19th.Thanks for adding that particularly the Happy Group Go Go's which are Beach, Happy, Peppermint, and Baccarra are all closed on the 18th for their annual employee party.
Hi Guys.
It has been bought to my attention that Vesak Day falls on the 29 May this year. It is described as the Holiest if Days! Having planned my trip to avoid Songkran I find this in the middle of my 5 day adventure. I have line contacts of course if needed but what is the extent if this day? Will the bars and gogos be opened?
Thanks Rob.
Christian G
04-09-18, 22:51
Will the bars and gogos be opened?No! Check this website for holidays in Thailand.
http://www.boomboomme.com/resources/holidays/thailand/archive_visakha_bucha.htm
http://www.boomboomme.com/resources/holidays/thailand/
Mr Enternational
04-09-18, 22:53
It has been bought to my attention that Vesak Day falls on the 29 May this year. It is described as the Holiest if Days! Will the bars and gogos be opened?No alcohol or partying on holidays.
No alcohol or partying on holidays.OK with a bit of planning one can have some freelancers organised and have drinks in your room. Are restaurants open? The girls won't get all spiritual and not have sex? I'm imagining Nyepi Day in Bali please tell me I'm over teacting.
Thanks Rob.
Mr Enternational
04-10-18, 02:12
OK with a bit of planning one can have some freelancers organised and have drinks in your room. Are restaurants open? The girls won't get all spiritual and not have sex? I'm imagining Nyepi Day in Bali please tell me I'm over teacting.In Pattaya you do not need a bar or a club to get laid. You only need money. Restaurants are open; they just can not serve alcohol.
In Pattaya you do not need a bar or a club to get laid. You only need money. Restaurants are open; they just can not serve alcohol.Thats good to know. I will stock the room with alcohol and open my own bar LOL.
Thanks Mr E for your reponses.
Rob.
Hi.
Has anyone been to TQ lately? I like the idea of a gogo being opened mid afternoon. Is it on par to the orher gogos in regards to nakedness when dancing and being able to handle and finger when buying them lady drinks?
Any other feedback is welcome.
Thanks Rob.In the afternoon at least they are all in bikinis and you get a couple of diamonds with a lot of rough.
After nearly a 5 month wait from the last time, the journey to the Far East is about to commence. I have some domestic travel that begins tomorrow, then in a week I will board the big bird to fly across the Pacific to Bangkok. I will probably spend a full two weeks in Pattaya before meeting up with my Thai GF for another 2 weeks.
Anyway, I recently made a post about one way to calculate how much money to take to Thailand for mongering. This time, I have decided to post a list of items I take to Thailand with me. I have fined tuned the list to suit my needs over my past 6 trips, but your own personal needs may be quite different. Feel free to add to the list or to modify it for your own needs.
Hygiene
Deodorant.
Sunscreen (I have great luck with the sprays).
Toothpaste / Tooth brush (bring spares for the guests. The airlines may have some in the bathroom).
Razor / shavecream / spare blades.
Cologne / after shave.
Lubricant.
Condoms (I plan for 2 for each girl I expect to be with, but if you engage in 3-ways, you may need more!
Wash cloth in a zip lock bag (hardly any Thai hotel provides washcloths! You need to bag as it may be wet when you change hotels.).
Spare towel (Thai hotels tend to charge for more than 2 towels a day, and if it is hot and you have a girl over, you may need 4 or 5!
Clothing This is in addition to what you wear going over.
Sandals and Shoes (You may need shoes, but I wear those going over. Sandles are cooler, so you may want an extra pair and maybe, an extra pair of shoes if you have room.).
Socks (2 pr) (Laundry service is cheap here, so don't take too much clothing!
Underwear (2 - 3 pair).
Pants (0 - 1 extra pair) I only wear long pants on the plane, shorts the rest of the time. But bring an extra pair if you want.
Shorts (2 - 3 pair).
Shirts (4 - 6) (Plan on doing laundry ever 2 to 3 days.).
Swim suit if you think you may go swimming.).
Sleep wear (old T-shirt and?
Medicines
Ambien for sleeping.
Ibuprofen or Tylenol (Often cheaper in the US.).
Antifungal / antibacterial / anti diarrheal, etc. (Often cheaper in the USA.).
Vitamins (Buy ED drugs in Thailand).
Band aids / Medical Tape (I use the tape to help prevent blisters on my feet).
Chap Stick / breath mints.
Miscellaneous
Spare glasses or contacts with solution / Reading glasses / Sun Glasses (Bring spares!
Snacks (for when dried seaweed flavored chips just won't do.).
Books to read on airplane.
Shopping Bags (for dirty laundry).
Ziplock Bags (for spare coins, to carry small bottles of lube so they won't leak in your shorts.).
Scissors / Fingernail clippers.
Passport / Copy of Passport (With no passport, you won't be going anywhere but back home.).
Copy of Your Itinerary (So you can keep track of reservations, hotel addresses and phone numbers, etc.).
Electronics
Cell phone, charger (s) / charging cable, SIM card from your last trip.
Travel Headset w / spare batteries / neck pad.
Umbrella / cheap plastic rain coat (2).
Camera.
-- with charger / spare battery, spare mem cards / lens cleaning kit.
-- Extra lenses (/ Strap / tripod / Flash / battery / charger.
Laptop.
-- Mouse (w / fresh battery and spare) / backup drive / charger and cable.
Noise Machine (It can cover over outside noises, to include a snoring lady).
Small Flashlight.
Magnet (so you can keep the AC running in those rooms with a magnetic dongle).
Cash.
Set up online USPS Hold Mail request.
Credit Card (s), and notify credit card companies of foreign travel (Chase doesn't need it, but some do).
Set up a trip message on your cell phone prior to headng out.
--set phone to Airplane Mode prior to leaving to avoid foreign roaming charges!
Pay bills before departing and note any bills that will become due while gone.
--I have a ton of user names and passwords, so have a way to remember them all while gone.
Stop newspaper, etc.
Turn off utilities as appropriate.
Consider:
-- Snorkling equipment (but those fins can get heavy!
-- Gifts or sexy clothing you can ask the girls to wear.
-- Lists of clubs or places you want to visit. It can get hectic when you are on the ground and you forget things!
.... This time, I have decided to post a list of items I take to Thailand with me. I have fined tuned the list to suit my needs over my past 6 trips, but your own personal needs may be quite different. Feel free to add to the list or to modify it for your own needs...
Thanks for your work!.... you are so funny! Enjoy boum boum and don't think too much about the next listing.... 555
Hi FL.
Man I thought I planned everything to a t but wow man you are thorough! I do like the idea of being prepared but you have some things I wouldn't even think of. You are correct with ghe amount of clothes and spare toothbrushes and ysually bring my own pharamacy as well and usuallg my own vitamin V but I may try some of the local stuff this time. I did take a laptop last time but it proved to be excess weight.
How long do you stay? I usually stay only a week or so as getting away from the wife can be difficult.
Enjoy your trip and your FRs are always entertaining.
Rob.
Good job Hawk. I have a few suggestions to add.
Hygiene / Toiletries: I wouldn't bother with the towel and washcloth. Too heavy and use too much room. Great suggestion about extra toothbrushes for the girls. On a recent trip a FL used my toothbrush without asking when we finished. Grossed me out.
Clothing: Highly recommend moisture wicking clothes. I like the Reebok and Adidas polo shirts and tees but be sure to get something that works. When I'm done packing my clothes, I'll try to cram in some older, junky clothes in my suitcase and throw them away after one use. I use these trips to discard some of my older stuff.
Shoes: To avoid foot problems and blisters I wear two pairs of sneakers on alternating days. I also bring along one pair of sandals. Total of 2 sneakers and one pair of sandals.
Socks: 6 pair. Stuff them in my spare shoes during travel.
Pants: 2 long pants and 2-3 pairs of shorts. I wear the long pants at night.
Underwear: 6 pair. I think your recommendation here is a little light. Especially since most laundries need a day or two to return the clothes.
Shirts: No dress shirts. 3 moisture wicking polos and 2-3 t-shirts.
Medicines: I bring travel sized Tylenol, band aids, cold pills, polysporin.
Electronics / others: I don't bring a noise machine or flashlight or bother with a camera. My Samsung Note8 takes good pics. I buy a cheap umbrella in Thailand when needed.
Other stuff: I scan a copy of my driver license, passport, and phone numbers to report lost credit cards and email that to me. I keep in my email if needed. I also bring a few extra paper copies of my passport with me. My trips are longer these days. Will arrive Thailand in July for about 5 weeks.
After nearly a 5 month wait from the last time, the journey to the Far East is about to commence. I have some domestic travel that begins tomorrow, then in a week I will board the big bird to fly across the Pacific to Bangkok. I will probably spend a full two weeks in Pattaya before meeting up with my Thai GF for another 2 weeks.
Anyway, I recently made a post about one way to calculate how much money to take to Thailand for mongering. This time, I have decided to post a list of items I take to Thailand with me. I have fined tuned the list to suit my needs over my past 6 trips, but your own personal needs may be quite different. Feel free to add to the list or to modify it for your own needs.
Hygiene
Deodorant.I guess this should be in the general forum but it isn't so here goes anyway. That's a lot of stuff you carry around but it's nice to have everything one needs when on the road. I'll go down the list and add a few things.
Towels and wash cloth? My wife does the wash cloth thing because she doesn't trust the hotel's towels. A waste of space in my book. To each his own.
Clothing you forgot hats. I always forget enough belts.
Medicines, pretty good, everything I need is in my small hygiene bag. I like my own shower soap too.
Misc. I guess you mean airplane snacks. Bags for laundry I get there. The other stuff spot on.
Electronics, you forgot big Cadillac vibrator. Flash Light is a good idea. My passcodes are in my notes (iPhone) and are coded so that only I can read them. Everything else you list is my style as well.
For me I take lingerie, stockings, bikinis, (or buy them there), ponytail bands, (some guys bring eye makeup for the BG), disposable shower caps for my BFs, and toothbrushes for same.
If you don't want to carry several cheap toothbrushes you can do my little trick. Have a new toothbrush in it's original plastic plastic cover. As you're walking towards your BG you push the toothbrush through one end of the plastic poking a hole and the toothbrush comes through that hole. Later when the BG is gone get the long plastic cover, get the toothbrush and rinse it and then put it back through the hole you made. Keep it until you need it again and do the same thing. As your walking toward or going to hand the toothbrush to her first push it out the same hole as if it was new. This way you only need one toothbrush for multiple BGs. The ladies love it. It's fun being sneaky.
As for toiletries I bring tweezers, a good 10 x 10" mirror, nail clippers, other items include, utility knife, good knife and fork, sometimes my own ground coffee w / plastic drip cone and paper filters, chocolate suckers from See's Candy, cork screw, toothpicks, now I use those plastic floss picks, styptic pencil for face nicks, cotton swabs, a good wireless speaker for romancing and my local radio which I have the apps on my phone, plane pillow. I know there's more.
So in the end I guess I bring to much too. One thing I bring is my home TV which entails having Sling box. That's huge for me. Anyway, cheerio!
sometimes my own ground coffee w / plastic drip cone and paper filtersI don't bring my own coffee but I always bring a big mug and a water heater, like this one: https://webwinkel.anwb.nl/webwinkel/reisdompelaar.html.
I don't know what they are called in English.
Comes in handy when your room doesn't have a water heater (and then there are usually no mugs either).
BadDildo0808
04-14-18, 11:54
Hi buddy,
They're called immersion water heaters. And they suck. Big time.
You can burn yourself, electrocute yourself, have your willy stuck in one (no, I'm just kidding here).
But still, I share your opinion about the having some use.
HAHA.
I don't bring my own coffee but I always bring a big mug and a water heater, like this one: https://webwinkel.anwb.nl/webwinkel/reisdompelaar.html.
I don't know what they are called in English.
Comes in handy when your room doesn't have a water heater (and then there are usually no mugs either).
Don't overbuy drinks and please don't buy drinks for the girl's "sister". No matter how similar they may look it isn't her sister! At the very most buy drinks once every set whether it be 20 or 30 minutes. Don't buy drinks for a girl who is just sitting their on her ass. If there is no DFK, HJ, or at least a ton of mutual groping move on to the next girl. Imo the worst guys who go to gogo bars are the ones who buy drinks for the waitresses who are as wide as they are tall. Why?!
As for bringing a bottle to a gogo bar, I have only seen this once at Baccara in Pattaya. A young decent looking farang bought a bottle and girls were all over him. I'm pretty sure it was because they wanted to be with the farang more than drinking from his bottle. As mentioned, the girls make no money from drinking his alcohol but he may have been tipping them all.Thanks everybody for all the info. I wasn't planning bringing my own bottle. Just saw a promotion on Sapphire's Facebook page for bottles with few mixers and thought it's a common practice.
Mr. E or anybody else who might know, are the Thai girls as lazy, lousy providers as Dominicans? How would they compare? Still undecided between Thailand and Brazil.
Mr Enternational
04-14-18, 18:39
Mr. E or anybody else who might know, are the Thai girls as lazy, lousy providers as Dominicans? How would they compare? Still undecided between Thailand and Brazil.LOL. The Thai chicks can't hold a candle to the Dominicanas as far as laziness. Not only that, but they won't steal your shit either and they won't beg for more money or tips. I moved from Rio to Pattaya so that should tell you something. You can argue all day about which women are better, but it can not be argued that you are going to have way more fun in Pattaya than Rio. Now if we were talking about early and mid 2000's Rio then you would have an argument.
LOL. The Thai chicks can't hold a candle to the Dominicanas as far as laziness. Not only that, but they won't steal your shit either and they won't beg for more money or tips. I moved from Rio to Pattaya so that should tell you something. You can argue all day about which women are better, but it can not be argued that you are going to have way more fun in Pattaya than Rio. Now if we were talking about early and mid 2000's Rio then you would have an argument.Dominicanas got the Thais beat on laziness. They are natural born hustlers. I would do both Brazil but your money will go further in the kingdom. If you like low cost long time with a provider Thailand is the way. To go. 2 months ago I was paying the Dominicanas to leave after the session. The downside is the baht is strong this year. The Peruvian chick I hired in POP was beyond lazy and greedy. Finally if you like dates, safety, and longtime do Thailand first.
Stayed at LK empress for 5 days late March. Single pick ups surrendered their ID's at reception. Threesome trysts were brought in via the side mini-mart and straight to the elevator serving the rear hotel wing. Nice hotel, price appropriate, ideal location. Weird breakfast faire such as roast duck, fried battered fish bites etc.
I keep making the same mistake in Pattaya of drinking and getting socially acquainted with bar staff on main thoroughfare's such as Soi 8 beach road and the strip of boxing bars on the way through to the beer garden restaurant. Every time I passed by on subsequent occasions I was recognised and sort of guilt into buying a drink and worse, funding a lady drink.
Beach road provided substantial variety as ever. I managed on average two pickups and one evening threesome per day. I found that having an initial single transaction within a 'safe' hotel environment paved the way for them willing to bring in their friend for the next round.
Price 750 bt st, 1000 bt extra curricular activity. 1500 bt each for threesome with extra curricular activity. Use your imagination.
I have found the variety changes profoundly daily on beach road. Ladies who I saw one day where absent for the rest of the week. I figure they are simply getting an amount of cash that suites their needs for the given time, as opposed to a permanent attendance.
The preferred selection for me were to be found between the Hilton and Soi 13.
I do not visit Pattaya with the idea of scoring the prettiest gogo starfish for 5000 baht for an hour of uncertain outcomes. Slim and trim is my preferred penchant. They all look the same from the back with the lights dimmed anyhow!
Observed quite a few African's strutting their booty (not my thing in Thailand). The odd Muslim (hooker with hijabs (I don't understand this concept of hooking religious modesty).
It was as ever interesting and somewhat depressing to see packs (10-15) of central Asian punters going about their special brand of monkey business in propositioning ladies for gang 'parties'. Far from being an isolated observation, I was saddened to think that gang participation (hopefully unforced) is their pinnacle fantasy, or maybe they simply don't like to be alone?
The Russian tourists are thinning out.
Insomnia restaurant (Waterside) provides a calm setting away from the adjacent madness of walking street.
Nam's lady taxi (1200 baht to and from airport) is my preferred way to arrive and depart Pattaya alive. Google it.
How much is the frickin baht bus? I hand over 10 baht for a trip between soi 6 and 13. I used to pay 20. They don't complain. Is it too much?
I can't drink singa all the time these days. I've taken to imbibing more JW black and coffee. Less bloated for action!
Massage parlors down the Soi's 12-13's proved good for daytime activity. They wanted (and got) 1000 bt for a finish of your choice).
On the subject of massage, be aware. In Bangkok Nana I was bait and switched late at night, choosing a tidy masseuse from the shop front, only to be switched with a rugged looking ladyman in the cubicle. I went with it but politely declined the offer of extras!
Cheers.
How much is the frickin baht bus? I hand over 10 baht for a trip between soi 6 and 13. I used to pay 20. They don't complain. Is it too much?
Cheers.10 Baht is the correct fare.
Mr Enternational
04-15-18, 19:15
I keep making the same mistake in Pattaya of drinking and getting socially acquainted with bar staff on main thoroughfare's such as Soi 8 beach road and the strip of boxing bars on the way through to the beer garden restaurant. Every time I passed by on subsequent occasions I was recognised and sort of guilt into buying a drink and worse, funding a lady drink.
On the subject of massage, be aware. In Bangkok Nana I was bait and switched late at night, choosing a tidy masseuse from the shop front, only to be switched with a rugged looking ladyman in the cubicle. I went with it but politely declined the offer of extras!Stop being such a polite mf aka letting people take advantage of you.
Once when I was in Peru me and my girlfriend went to get massages from the blind people in downtown Lima. Their culture is pretty much that men do stuff for men and women for women. For example, men can not be gynecologists or obstetricians (as my girlfriend was). So the dude was about to massage me and the woman my girlfriend. I said no way and made them switch.
Tried to pull the same thing as your case when me and my PI girlfriend went to Boracay. Going to ask me if it is alright if a ladyboy does my foot massage. Hell no it ain't alright.
Banana Boi
04-15-18, 19:20
I keep making the same mistake in Pattaya of drinking and getting socially acquainted with bar staff on main thoroughfare's such as Soi 8 beach road and the strip of boxing bars on the way through to the beer garden restaurant. Every time I passed by on subsequent occasions I was recognised and sort of guilt into buying a drink and worse, funding a lady drink.It's your money and, more importantly, time. Never feel guilty or obligated to stop in for a drink. Too many girls everywhere to worry about that.
Hi friends,
First of all thanks a lot for sharing some wonderful reports by some of our senior members, I did the RTFF, and after doing it, I went to some go-go bars and had some experience which is not good enough to. First I went to Infinity, then went to Galaxy for trying my luck for Russians, I selected one girl who's was doing the pole dance, and after finishing came as usual for asking some tip, and I gave 100 be, and then she asked me to take her and we agreed on 2 k for 1 shot, we went inside and then she did a little bit of dance and the game is over. This is their new way (Or might be old).
I also looked on to some escort sites but mostly are out of the budget, So request you all senior members if anybody knows, or have some contacts of independent girls, if can pm me, I will be really grateful and in return can pass on information and give contacts of Dubai and India, my budget is around 3 to 5 k for full night. Please PM me some good girls contact.
Please kindly put in some of your valuable inputs.
Crocodilexp
04-16-18, 02:32
So request you all senior members if anybody knows, or have some contacts of independent girls, if can pm me What's this obsession with private "contacts" that certain people have?
It's Pattaya, girls are all over the place, you can walk up and talk to them for free (or the price of a lady drink at most). You don't need some anonymous schmuck from the internet to recommend you someone. Decide based on what you see, and judge the attitude / chemistry by interacting with them, it's much better than going by a private suggestion from a complete stranger. In Pattaya, it's all out in the open -- there's no magical hidden world of amazing "independent" girls with great attitudes and exceptional looks if you only know the right people.
In the afternoon at least they are all in bikinis and you get a couple of diamonds with a lot of rough.My first Pattaya barfine was out of TQ in like 1999.
Member #4591
04-16-18, 03:56
Hi friends,
First of all thanks a lot for sharing some wonderful reports by some of our senior members, I did the RTFF, and after doing it, I went to some go-go bars and had some experience which is not good enough to. First I went to Infinity, then went to Galaxy for trying my luck for Russians, I selected one girl who's was doing the pole dance, and after finishing came as usual for asking some tip, and I gave 100 be, and then she asked me to take her and we agreed on 2 k for 1 shot, we went inside and then she did a little bit of dance and the game is over. This is their new way (Or might be old).
I also looked on to some escort sites but mostly are out of the budget, So request you all senior members if anybody knows, or have some contacts of independent girls, if can pm me, I will be really grateful and in return can pass on information and give contacts of Dubai and India, my budget is around 3 to 5 k for full night. Please PM me some good girls contact.
Please kindly put in some of your valuable inputs.I think your budget is very reasonable for Pattaya. You are right in deciding freelancers are the way to go since the go go girls all want about 4 K and up for LT if they will even go. I would suggest you ditch the walking street scene as it seems your luck or stigma has got the better of you. Move to We chat, Thai Friendly, Skout, Badoo. You will find loads of freelancers there. This will also increase your budget since you won't need to go buy drinks for her in the go go.
If you like going out, Head into Insomnia or Lucifer or the Indian club on Walkimg street. Sorry I can't remember the name but there are plenty of girls in the bars willing to go with a polite well mannered and well dressed middle eastern or Indian guy for 3-5 K LT. If you are one that likes Walking Street Go go bars but are having no luck or scared of wasting money with no return, head to the beer bar complex about half way down on your right hand side. It's more relaxed and you can feel the lady out more to see if she's willing to go LT and the drinks are a little cheaper. Another option that has worked for me is Soi 6. You can look for a nice lady there and take her ST for around 1,300 net. If the chemistry is right, you can then bar fine her and take her LT. Good luck and don't get discouraged. You just seemed to be a little overwhelmed now with all the ladies on WS. It can be full of pain or pleasure depending on how you navigate. Pain on the pocket book for lady drinks and false promises but a real pleasure if you know the game. Please read posts from Banana Boi and Mr. Enternational. They are Pattaya veterans who consistently post about how to navigate Pattaya and Walkimg Street especially.
What's this obsession with private "contacts" that certain people have?
It's Pattaya, girls are all over the place, you can walk up and talk to them for free (or the price of a lady drink at most). You don't need some anonymous schmuck from the internet to recommend you someone. Decide based on what you see, and judge the attitude / chemistry by interacting with them, it's much better than going by a private suggestion from a complete stranger. In Pattaya, it's all out in the open -- there's no magical hidden world of amazing "independent" girls with great attitudes and exceptional looks if you only know the right people.Agree completely Crocodile. I don't know why but it seems we get these requests every week. As you pointed out girls are everywhere. Recommendations are fairly worthless since different people have different tastes in girls. YMMV in every situation.
As Croc and Allover state why get recommendations? Are you that last that you can't walk down Beach Road or Walking Street or if you are not in Pattaya currently that you can't open Thai Friendly and get your own? I will ask for opinions of BMs that I know about different girls we may both know to compare notes. The other thing is that the girls change bars, go freelance, find Mr Right or simply leave and it is beat impossible to keep tabs on them anyhow.
VeryInterest
04-16-18, 16:47
Spent 3 days in Pattaya last week, OMG it's so amazing that I'm coming back for another 3 days. I have mongered in AC, Manila, Sabang, VN, BKK, China, Cambodia, US and hand down this is the best place for me. Main reason is Soi 6. I'm not a LT type of guy. I like unattached fucking, and I didn't know the Soi 6 bars had rooms upstairs. Drink a beer, pick a girl, go upstairs for 30-45 min, and go to next bar.
Day 1.
Landed in BKK, took the bus from airport straight to Pattaya. 180 baht can't beat that. Got dropped off at the office, and tried to get an uber but they kept on cancelling on me, so started walking and ran into some Germans who flagged down those pickup trucks. Asked them how much and they said 10 baht, so on I went. Those pickup trucks are amazing and cheap. Check into the dynasty hotel for apprx 35 bucks a night. Old school TV, but does the trick. Took the bus to soi 6, and honestly was overwhelmed. Picked a girl, had a beer, small talk and upstairs we went. Shower together, BBBJ, mish and her on top where I popped quickly. Total cost was 1300 baht. Left the bar, had a Thai tea, and walked into another bar. Picked a cute girl. Very cute, shower together, nice be size firm tits, and shaven pussy. Mish, CG, doggy and nutted. Went to get a papaya salad, walk around, and headed back to Soi 6 for a 3rd girl. Same routine, but not as cute as 2nd girl. Got messenger contact for girl 2 and 3. Once again 1300 damage. Was going to head to walking street.
Day 2.
Woke up, had breakfast. Walked around. Got to [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900) at 10, but they don't open until 11 am. The bkk [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901)'s opens much earlier. Came back at 11, and a girl walked in, but she was a 2 out of 10. Said it's her turn, I said I want to get a girl from the front. Picked a cute girl, walked up. She cleaned me up, I asked her to take off her top, she did and started sucking. After 10 min or so, I nutted. Cleaned up and went on my way. Soi 6 is more fun. That afternoon went back to Soi 6 picked up another girl. She had a child, but was enthusiastic. Some reason the price went up to 1400 baht, no biggie. Paid, shower together, and fucked her good. Since I was still jet lagged, went back to my room and napped. Woke up super around midnight, and headed to walking street. It's a clusterfuck there, walked in a bar (forgot the name) but had 2 types of girls. Girls in kimonos and girls in bikinis. The bikinis were known as "models" and wanted 3 k a night plus bar fine. Wtf, this is triple the price of Soi 6! No matter how hot these chicks were, I wasn't going to pay that, but they were hot. Do you guys pay this rate?? Had my beer, left, and tried beach street. Found a girl that wanted 1 k. Walked back to hotel, she wanted separate shower, then had no condoms. I said let's go raw, she wan't OK w / that so I had to take a rubber out. Nice plump tits, but she had signs of a baby, but had a nice hairy pussy. Like a juicy coconut. She started a CBJ, I said I wanted a BBBJ. She said nobody does that on beach st. Wtf. I guess I should clarify shower together, and BBBJ next time. Anyhow, she showered, did some mish, ate her out, she got on top and got lazy and said she was tired after 1 min or so. Wtf the soi 6 girls did not get tired! So I pounded her doggie, but she felt good on top, so I told her to get back on top, she obliged and I nutted. She cleaned up, asked for a tip. I said nope bc of CBJ, she gave a stink but left. Hotel lobby called up, I said everything is fine, and she left.
Day 3.
Woke up early. It's unfortunate I have to wait until 2 pm for the action to start. Walked to a BJ bar club 4 and that area. Man that's a long walk, anyways I get there and the talent is horrid. So I wait to my sure thing soi 6. 2 pm rolls around, and I head to trusty soi 6. Found a cute young chick. She reached in my shorts and started rubbing my cock. I asked if she kissed, she said no, but she was hot, so we still went upstairs. This bar didn't have showers in the room, so had to walk outside to shower. She gave a lazy BBBJ, so I said just stop and lay out, I licked her tits and pussy. After I finished she took the towel to wipe off, I hate it when they do that. Then I proceeded to tap her mish, doggy, and had her finish on top. Felt great. Went to dinner, and back to hotel for nap. I wake up late, and text some of the day 1 girls to meet, but they lazy to come after 1 am. Oh wells. Walk on beach st, but didn't see anything nice. Had to leave for BKK at 4 am, so that was the end of the trip.
Recap 3 nights 7 girls, a great time.
Questions:
Besides the BJ bars, where can I get some CIM girls? Will soi 6 girls do this?
Are there really Muslim street walkers? Has anyone tried? If so how's the service. Sounds like something I'd want to try being an atheist LOL.
Are there any other areas like soi 6 that is worth checking out?
Is walking street all 3 k+ for ST? If so I'd rather stick w / soi 6.
Where can I get rimming?
Anywhere that offers prostate massages?
Should I give whatsapp / wechat a try?
How easy is it to get BBFS on Soi 6 or beach row?
How are the girls at devil's den? Soi 6 or lower quality? How many pops do they allow? Is it like eden in BKK?
Is it ok to ask all the detailed questions to beach st girls?
Is there anywhere else in the world where I can pick a bar and go upstairs to do the deed? I heard Tijuana's is like this, but not sure how safe it is.
When I was with a girl getting a blow job I just came in their mouth. They had to suspect it might happen. One girl did gag on it and threw up so maybe she wasnt expecting it.
I hope someone answers the rimming auestion. I would like to know also.
Besides the BJ bars, where can I get some CIM girls? Will soi 6 girls do this?
Mr Enternational
04-16-18, 21:19
When I was with a girl getting a blow job I just came in their mouth. They had to suspect it might happen. One girl did gag on it and threw up Maybe you need to drink less alcohol and eat more pineapples.
Mr Enternational
04-16-18, 21:43
Are there really Muslim street walkers? Has anyone tried? If so how's the service. Sounds like something I'd want to try being an atheist LOL.No. They just wear that to be inviting to the Arab guys. I call Thai chicks chameleons. However you want them to look, they can dress themselves to fit the bill. My exgirlfriend from Bangkok is Muslim and her dad is an imam. She does not wear any of that traditional dress, smokes, drinks, been married twice, and has 4 kids, 2 with each of her husbands. I would not put too much stock into dating or fucking someone because of their religion. I am agnostic.
Anywhere that offers prostate massages?I have a lady that does that. Actually she does oil massage with that included (brings her own sheets and everything), but since I don't want anything in my ass, she substitutes BBBJCIM for it. 1000 baht. No sex. PM me if you want the info.
Is there anywhere else in the world where I can pick a bar and go upstairs to do the deed? I heard Tijuana's is like this, but not sure how safe it is.Tijuana is not like Soi 6. In the bars/strip clubs the least you will get a chick for is $60 ($80 max - although they may ask $100 negotiate), then you will have to pay for the room (usually $10) wherever you go. I prefer the chicks that are lined up down the street. I give them 200 pesos ($11) and then have to pay 50 pesos ($2.75) for the room. Don't know whether to tell you if it is safe or not. I have been going since I was 18 (almost 30 years) so to me it is just Tijuana. I am the wrong person to ask about the safety of places because I have been known to hang in some pretty shady places and have never had a problem.
Anywhere that offers prostate massages? Na works in Pattaya and advertises on Craigslist in the Bangkok section and then on ThaiFriendly there is Thanyapik who works in Bangkok and Pattaya.
Should I give whatsapp / wechat a try? Try ThaiFriendly instead and then use line to communicate.
How easy is it to get BBFS on Soi 6 or beach row?I only did one girl on Soi 6 and that was BBFS, so it's possible but not as easy as it might appear.
Christian G
04-16-18, 22:17
She started a CBJ, I said I wanted a BBBJ. She said nobody does that on beach st. Wtf. I guess I should clarify shower together, and BBBJ next time. What a bullshit she told you, it's not true that all girls in beach road does CBJ. Last month I had 3 girls from Beach Road and all 3 gave me BBBJ, not need to ask. If a girl refuse to do BBBJ, I just give her few baht for mototaxi and let her go on her way. No way I'll pay for CBJ.
Besides the BJ bars, where can I get some CIM girls? Will soi 6 girls do this?Almost everywhere, I never had problem to find CIM in soi6, thaifriendly, beach road, massage shops in soi honey and soi chaiyapoon, and all the ST bars / G. Clubs scattered around the city. Of course not all girls will do CIM, but is easy to find.
Are there any other areas like soi 6 that is worth checking out?Nothing like soi 6, but you can check soi honey, soi chaiyapoon and soi bongkoch 8 (soi full love inn).
Where can I get rimming?Same answer as for the CIM.
How are the girls at devil's den? Soi 6 or lower quality? How many pops do they allow? Is it like eden in BKK?Go there and check the line up with your own eyes. Unlimited pops.
Is it ok to ask all the detailed questions to beach st girls?You can interview the girls and tell them what you want. I never pick up a girl without having interviewed her.
Besides the BJ bars, where can I get some CIM girls? Will soi 6 girls do this?Some girls do, some won't. You have to keep on asking. There are a few Soi 6 bars that are known for having raunchy girls, girls that will do CIM, rimming, lesbian, lesbian rimming. My Friend bar is one of them. I read there's at least 1 more. Anybody has the info?
Where can I get rimming?Many girls will do it, from every venue, including cute girls from Walking Street. You have to keep on asking. It seems to be on the standard menu in some places, like My Friend bar, and Devil's Den. Many girls at the BJ bars will do it.
How are the girls at devil's den? Soi 6 or lower quality? How many pops do they allow? Is it like eden in BKK?Devil's Den is just like Bangkok's Eden Club. IMO, the average looks is of lower quality compared to Soi 6, but maybe better than Beach Road, which isn't saying much. You can definitely get better quality on Soi 6. I think you get 90 minutes for multiple pops, but not positive since I am unable to do multiples. :(
Is it ok to ask all the detailed questions to beach st girls?Of course you should ask all the detailed questions for all the girls in all the venues.
Is there anywhere else in the world where I can pick a bar and go upstairs to do the deed? I heard Tijuana's is like this, but not sure how safe it is.
Colombia.
In Tijuana, you go next door to the short time hotel (Adelitas and Chicago Club. Hong Kong should be the same). Funny how Mr E's max ($80) is the min price I try to pay. LOL!
It's safe in front the the bars / strip joints. As you walk away from them, then it gets sketchy, but not that bad because the place is crowded (talking about normal RLD hours). But you have to consider that it's the Red Light District in Mexico. Most RLDs in the world can be sketchy, especially for Mexico. IMO, I would be more leery of Mexico than other countries because the police might not be there to protect you if things go south.
What's this obsession with private "contacts" that certain people have?
It's Pattaya, girls are all over the place, you can walk up and talk to them for free (or the price of a lady drink at most). You don't need some anonymous schmuck from the internet to recommend you someone. Decide based on what you see, and judge the attitude / chemistry by interacting with them, it's much better than going by a private suggestion from a complete stranger. In Pattaya, it's all out in the open -- there's no magical hidden world of amazing "independent" girls with great attitudes and exceptional looks if you only know the right people.Well said, the obsession cinese under the form of "I request".
FFS, not even polite using "I wish to know".
Class managers sitting in a basement sharing their ISG browsing time between Thailand and Dubai.
Never a report, promises of future reports only.
TakeCareYou
04-17-18, 15:54
Hi friends,
First of all thanks a lot for sharing some wonderful reports by some of our senior members, I did the RTFF, and after doing it, I went to some go-go bars and had some experience which is not good enough to. First I went to Infinity, then went to Galaxy for trying my luck for Russians, I selected one girl who's was doing the pole dance, and after finishing came as usual for asking some tip, and I gave 100 be, and then she asked me to take her and we agreed on 2 k for 1 shot, we went inside and then she did a little bit of dance and the game is over. This is their new way (Or might be old).
I also looked on to some escort sites but mostly are out of the budget, So request you all senior members if anybody knows, or have some contacts of independent girls, if can pm me, I will be really grateful and in return can pass on information and give contacts of Dubai and India, my budget is around 3 to 5 k for full night. Please PM me some good girls contact.
Please kindly put in some of your valuable inputs.Bamboo Bar is a great place that attracts the older crowd. They have a live band that plays western and Issan music and they are not too loud. Lots of beautiful freelance women and lots of middle-aged to older men chasing them! Entrance is free but don't be a cheap charlie and buy at least one drink. Worth a look. Bamboo Bar is near the entrance to Walking Street.
Banana Boi
04-17-18, 18:34
Entrance is free but don't be a cheap charlie and buy at least one drink. Worth a look. Bamboo Bar is near the entrance to Walking Street.Are there any gogo bars or beer bars in pattaya that charge an entrance fee? Can't think of any. Just thought that was an odd comment.
Mr Enternational
04-17-18, 18:43
Bamboo Bar is a great place that attracts the older crowd. Entrance is free but don't be a cheap charlie and buy at least one drink.You have no choice because waiters in that place will be on you like stank on shit until you do buy a drink. My last day in that place was when they would not give me another piece of lime and more ice to go with the rest of the soda water that I had in the bottle. Fuck Bamboo!
Hi friends,
First of all thanks a lot for sharing some wonderful reports by some of our senior members, I did the RTFF, and after doing it, I went to some go-go bars and had some experience which is not good enough to. First I went to Infinity, then went to Galaxy for trying my luck for Russians, I selected one girl who's was doing the pole dance, and after finishing came as usual for asking some tip, and I gave 100 be, and then she asked me to take her and we agreed on 2 k for 1 shot, we went inside and then she did a little bit of dance and the game is over. This is their new way (Or might be old).
I also looked on to some escort sites but mostly are out of the budget, So request you all senior members if anybody knows, or have some contacts of independent girls, if can pm me, I will be really grateful and in return can pass on information and give contacts of Dubai and India, my budget is around 3 to 5 k for full night. Please PM me some good girls contact.
Please kindly put in some of your valuable inputs.If I may ask, which posts did you read that ushered you to these Russian clubs? Other seniors and I have repeatedly asserted that these are clip joints, plain and simple. You simply cannot go into these places and select a girl, if at all, without first spending a couple of thousand THBs on drinks, tips and 'sweet talk', that seldom culminates in any meaningful experience and even if it does, in my books, it's a battle already lost, especially when you factor in the ridiculous amount that you've already spent in getting to that point. I have mentioned this before, and I reiterate, give these places a wide berth. About your 2k for 1 shot, I think you might have mistaken an offer for a lap dance for this. A couple of years back, it was 500 THB for one lap dance. I highly doubt that those chicks are available for 1 shot at 2 k THB. The only time I ventured into one of those places, a few years back, when I was not in the know of what is what, I think I was quoted 20-25k for LT. So, 2k for 1 shot, essentially ST, seems highly unlikely to me. And, I think they don't even have rooms to provide FS at the location. With your 3-5 k THB budget, I'd suggest going to Nashaa, Tony's or a couple of other Indian nightclubs, if you're looking for CIS talent. Although, be prepared to negotiate down to 5k, at best, for LT. 3-4k LT for CIS? Forget about it. Don't concern yourself too much about 'good girls' as the service is, more often than not, going to be ok. Also, with any contacts that you may get, your mileage WILL vary. So, don't waste your time on it. For Russians, try your luck at Mixx at the end of WS. If getting entry becomes a problem, you can find a few Russians, who are headed to the club later, having their meal, drinks etc. at the Indian restaurant just across the street from Mixx. You can chat 'em up and see where it goes. Although, have to add, some nights may be slim pickings and a lot may depend upon your timing and luck. Also, if you appear to be 'looking', you may be approached by an Indian dude or two, at the end of WS, who may be able to hook you up. Hope this helps. Good luck out there!
Are there any gogo bars or beer bars in pattaya that charge an entrance fee? Can't think of any. Just thought that was an odd comment.We are never charged a cover charge for the go-go bars, but some of them will charge Indians a cover charge or force them to pre-pay for an overpriced drink. Some of the go-go bars won't even allow them in.
Thanks a lot for the inputs you gave and in fact its true about the Russians, and well Russians Girls in Thailand don't carry a good reputation, they normally are prone to cheat and run away with your money, comparing to the Russians I have met during my stay in Dubai, but the local are too concerned and they try their best to satisfy as they know that they are in a competition, I came through a website known as 111escortspattaya.com and tried a girl, name I don't know, so to be double sure chatted on the number given in the site of a girl, and talked on a watsapp, he informed me that he has a good customer base who are Indian, and so I asked him if he is an Indian, and he informed that his father is Indian and mother is Australian, he was having an Australian accent and was claiming to be 35 yrs of age but I doubt would be between 50 --60 , anyways, The girl arrived it was same as the pic which was forwarded to me, for long time I was asked to give 5500 and short time it was 3500, so settled with a condition that first I will go for short time And if It would be worth will extend and will be paying the rest, I was promised that she will be reaching in an hour, and she arrived on the right time, I was impressed by her looks, but still it was ok, I would rate her looks 6. 5 /10 with an attitude to please, had for a short time 2 hrs for 3500 bhats, the session was overall OK, not so good and not so bad, was in the mood to drill the hole, but don't know her BJ skills were good, around 30 yrs of age and a mother, She was clean and tidy. Was not a good experience but not worth writing much about it, after all it was all about giving a little relaxation to the little Johny and as he was satisfied, did went for the long time.
The website details are mentioned. Also have what is app contacts of the same so if in case somebody was to try options will be happy to share the contacts.
Thanks again Anon Mous and take you care.
Do you guys pay this rate?
Very interest. Of course someone is paying 3 k+ for hotties. Some girls in soapies command over 5 k. Remember some guys are tourists with money to burn. Some guys come on business where their jobs have comped their rooms and meals. Some guys live closer than the west coast so they may get a fantastic deal on air fare. Some guys flights are short enough were they can visit 4+ times a years. Some guys may get an expensive hottie just to mark it off their bucket list. For me to get a hottie I would need to hit the lottery or just want to do it on a very rare occasion. Asian customers have a rep of paying big with for little in return. Some guys have paid models just to watch TV with them. All mongers have different budgets.
Bamboo Bar is a great place that attracts the older crowd. They have a live band that plays western and Issan music and they are not too loud. Lots of beautiful freelance women and lots of middle-aged to older men chasing them! Entrance is free but don't be a cheap charlie and buy at least one drink. Worth a look. Bamboo Bar is near the entrance to Walking Street.I agree with this comment. The Bamboo Bar is an enormous amount of fun. The band is really good and the Isaan singers are very sexy. I have had many great times in there.
You have no choice because waiters in that place will be on you like stank on shit until you do buy a drink. My last day in that place was when they would not give me another piece of lime and more ice to go with the rest of the soda water that I had in the bottle. Fuck Bamboo!That has never been my experience, but then I am not "Falang".
I agree that Soi 6 girls are better than BR girls at least in terms of looks. BR girls are simply hideous but throw away cheap. However, one thing I am not sure is the take out cost of a Soi 6 girl for 2 hours to hotel room on Soi 8 or 13.
Can someone please let me know if the girls and shops agree easily to go to hotel room for 2 hours and how much would it cost?
I agree that Soi 6 girls are better than BR girls at least in terms of looks. BR girls are simply hideous but throw away cheap. However, one thing I am not sure is the take out cost of a Soi 6 girl for 2 hours to hotel room on Soi 8 or 13.
Can someone please let me know if the girls and shops agree easily to go to hotel room for 2 hours and how much would it cost?Short time is usually up to an hour in a room above the bar and longtime is for the rest of the evening. You might have to negotiate for that.
Mr Enternational
04-18-18, 20:44
That has never been my experience, but then I am not "Falang".Me either. I am dam dam.
Great interview with prostitute from Pattaya, funny and informative. Enjoy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UGU2joQiIR8.
Banana Boi
04-19-18, 17:41
Great interview with prostitute from Pattaya, funny and informative. Enjoy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UGU2joQiIR8.That's a ladyboy.
If I'm not mistaken, johnyjo is a guy who said I didn't know pattaya.
Mr Enternational
04-19-18, 17:56
That's a ladyboy.LOL. That is obvious as soon as the video starts. Is this a for real thing that guys can't recognize a man from a lady when they both have long hair and makeup? I thought for sure you could tell when he is in motion.
Great interview with prostitute from Pattaya, funny and informative. Enjoy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UGU2joQiIR8.Hard to not know this is a LB because about two minutes into the clip, he admits he is a LB.
Banana Boi
04-19-18, 18:32
It takes about a second once you see movement during the intro. I thought maybe there is a girl being interviewed and that the ladyboy was only an intro. Only needed a second to hear the voice. Why would you need to watch 2 minutes of that?
Member #4698
04-19-18, 18:41
Hard to not know this is a LB because about two minutes into the clip, he admits he is a LB.Red flags went up immediately in the first seconds of the video and by the 20 second mark I knew for certain 100% that it was a LB. It amazes me too that some guys can be fooled or maybe they want to be fooled. 555.
In all my time in LOS I have met only one girl or was she a possible LB that got passed my radar. I still think she had to be a girl, but what the hell was she doing working in Straps? I will never know. In any case, I did not barfine her, but it was not because I thought she was a LB. At the time I was pretty convinced she wasn't and to make certain I asked her if she was and she said no. The reason I didn't barfine her was because she had a very bad attitude and completely flunked the audition. She was a sexy little spinner though. I will give her that.
The hands and voice are a dead giveaway.
Great interview with prostitute from Pattaya, funny and informative. Enjoy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UGU2joQiIR8..
Are there really Muslim street walkers? Has anyone tried? If so how's the service. Sounds like something I'd want to try being an atheist LOL.I think they're on Soi 4 where it's a big (one way) boulevard, specifically at The Grace Hotel. I know they're hookers as they give you the stare down. They're usually on the big side.
I haven't been tempted because of their size, demeanor, they look like trouble and they're MILFs. Some w / pretty faces on top of a big body draped in black.
Last winter I saw a couple near Nana plying the trade.
I think they're on Soi 4 where it's a big (one way) boulevard, specifically at The Grace Hotel..
.For those keeping score this is Pattaya but the Soi 4 and Grace Hotel mentioned above is in Bangkok.
Short time is usually up to an hour in a room above the bar and longtime is for the rest of the evening. You might have to negotiate for that.Try to meet a Soi 6 girl at a disco after hours. You may be able to get her for 1 k.
GreatScott
04-21-18, 09:10
Looking for an up to date / good reference on a motorbike rental.
And yeah I see the thousands of bikes lined up on beach road for rent.
If anyone has first hand exp with someone in particular I'the greatly appreciate it.
Will pass off my first couple days report soon as I can cover more ground. Jeezuz it's hot out here! LOL.
Make sure they have your size helmet before renting a motorbike. You don't want to spend s few days riding with an ill fitted helmet.
Looking for an up to date / good reference on a motorbike rental.
And yeah I see the thousands of bikes lined up on beach road for rent.
If anyone has first hand exp with someone in particular I'the greatly appreciate it.
Will pass off my first couple days report soon as I can cover more ground. Jeezuz it's hot out here! LOL.
Looking for an up to date / good reference on a motorbike rental.
And yeah I see the thousands of bikes lined up on beach road for rent.
If anyone has first hand exp with someone in particular I'the greatly appreciate it.
Will pass off my first couple days report soon as I can cover more ground. Jeezuz it's hot out here! LOL.The helmets you will get w / your rental scooter will not protect you from head injuries, they are cheap plastic. They will however protect you from a "no helmet ticket".
Before my trips if I know I will be using scooters a lot so I bring my own certified brain bucket. They don't take up that much room in the suitcase, or you can buy one there too.
I don't wear flip flops either when using a scooter. I like walking too much.
Mr Enternational
04-23-18, 05:00
Just talked to a girl that I reported on 2 months ago. I met her when she was on the back of a bike and told her to come with me. Before I left Pattaya I took her swimming at my friend's new condo and she told me she would be leaving to work in Bangkok. She said that she did not go. She is happy with a new job that she found in Pattaya making shirts at a print shop for 350 baht/day.
Blanquiceleste
04-23-18, 05:26
Red flags went up immediately in the first seconds of the video and by the 20 second mark I knew for certain 100% that it was a LB. It amazes me too that some guys can be fooled or maybe they want to be fooled. 555.
In all my time in LOS I have met only one girl or was she a possible LB that got passed my radar. I still think she had to be a girl, but what the hell was she doing working in Straps? I will never know. In any case, I did not barfine her, but it was not because I thought she was a LB. At the time I was pretty convinced she wasn't and to make certain I asked her if she was and she said no. The reason I didn't barfine her was because she had a very bad attitude and completely flunked the audition. She was a sexy little spinner though. I will give her that.
LOL. That is obvious as soon as the video starts. Is this a for real thing that guys can't recognize a man from a lady when they both have long hair and makeup? I thought for sure you could tell when he is in motion.
That's a ladyboy.
If I'm not mistaken, johnyjo is a guy who said I didn't know pattaya.A wise man once said. You cannot wake up a man who is pretending to be asleep.
That said, the brain functions 24 x7, 365 days a year. Till the moment one lands in Pattaya. One of the great unexplained mysteries of our times.
Pattaya Trip Report, Friday, Day 1.
I arrived BKK at 11:10 AM Friday from LAX. I flew EVA business class again which, while super expensive, is far more pleasant as you can lay down flat and get some real sleep. EVA has made some changes since my last time. The FA's have new uniforms, which are a bit less professional-looking and probably more comfortable for the girls and gives them a softer appearance which I like. The hard assets, such as the amenity kit and look of the menus, has declined, which really doesn't impact the service, but those Rowina kits the artistic menus were a nice touch. Also, at least on this flight, the food wasn't as good. I remember last time having beef steak that was thick and medium well. This time, it was maybe half an inch and was brown throughout. OK, but for the price. I am hardly a gourmet, so a portion of the classy food I have always found unappetizing for me (I like my fish cooked and beet soup? Horrid!) But there was plenty of food and much of it tasty so no worries about going hungry. I will withhold an opinion of the food after my return trip. Suffice to say, business class travel is awesome but I may revert back to elite class next time as it is difficult to justify the much, much higher price time after time.
But a major perk with business class is you get to use expedited customs check in. No super long waits. Literally, there was zero waiting on trip. Also, with business class, your bags are the first to come out, so the wait for baggage was just a couple of minutes. I had schedule the ride to Pattaya with Nam and the driver was waiting at the designated location and off we were before 12 PM. The only downside with using a driver is that you have to lug your luggage outside and through and to the parking area. My carryon was heavy and without wheels, so I was covered in sweat by the time I got to the car. A few days earlier I was in freezing weather, and now the temperare and humidty were in their 90's. But there was water waiting for me in the car and the AC quickly worked, and soon we were on our way to Pattaya.
The traffic was moderate and we made good time -- until we got to the city, where it was pure gridlock. The driver managed to find a shortcut or two, so right at 2 PM we pulled into the Dynasty. Check-in was fast and the room was ready. As with all Thai hotels it seems, the room had been unpowered so it took a while to chill the heat-saturated room down, but as it did so I unpacked and put my things away. I will spend a week here before moving to the Flipper House for the final week.
Though I got in a full 6 hours of sleep on the plane, which is really all I need per day, I was still sleep-deprived from all the traveling across the USA as well as Pacific, and I decided to take a nap now that all was put away and the room was at a comfortable temperature. I thought about what I wanted to do, mongering wise, but fell asleep before deciding what to do. It was about 3 PM when I woke up after a short nap, but I still felt exhausted so I decided to rest some more, sleeping deeply until nearly 6 PM. My options were to call up one of the TF girls, but my tradition has been to go to Soi 6, and that is what I decided to do. I changed into my mongering clothes (short shirt and cargo shorts). I set out a selection of condoms that I brought, which includes two new styles. The new types were the Pasante Sensitive Feel, a latex condom, which has a rated thickness of 53 microns. These are not the older Pasante. 01's that are slid on rather than rolled. The manufacturer claims they transfer heat better that other condoms. Also, which I am excited to try, is the Okamoto. 01 in the large size. I am not a big guy in the Western world, but the standard Japanese condom is too small. These Okamotos appears to be the first Japanese super thin. 01 in a large size. I had used the Japanese. 01's in the standard size and found them too tight and they were difficult to roll on and prone to breakage. I have some hopes for these new Okamotos. I also brought the standby Aoni. 01's latex condoms that I had been using and which seem to be the only super thin condoms in the western world. They are ok, but tend to break if the girl dries out. And I also brought, again, the Sagami. 02's in the large size. I first started using these as they are still a thin condom and the best Japan had to offer in a larger size before the Okomotos. I set one of sample of each of the 4 types to take with me.
Prior to leaving, I down half of an apcalis pill, then I grab a baht bus for Soi 6. With the sun down the air had cooled and it pleasant enough outside. The earlier gridlock has dissipated so it was smooth sailing from Soi 13 to 6. Arriving, I did the walk east-to-west and was not really impressed with the selection. There were plenty of girls and not a ton of guys for being a Friday night. A few clubs were deserted while a couple were busy. I turned around and headed back east, but didn't settle upon anyone until the trip back west again. I finally was drawn in by a cute spinner at O Bar. She seemed early 20's, thin but with a real figure, wonderful legs, nice hair and a really nice smile. More cute than beautiful, I went over and she smiled and we went inside. Na, her name, didn't have much English skills, but they were far betting than my near nonexistent Thai skills. She was bubbly so I decided to go upstairs and let her be my first. I was pretty sure I would be able to come with her, especially due to her body and it being a week since my last release. She said she was 26. I didn't ask if she was a mommie, but I saw no signs of childbirth. I bought her a LD after it was clear she wanted to go upstairs with me. The BF was the usual 300 and the lady fee was 1,000. Upstairs, we each undressed and she gave a standard shower, but she liked to peek at and poke my Johnson. Performance wise, I think she learned the art of the BJ from watching Japanese porn. She was slow and would lick the sides and concentrate on taking just the head into her mouth, only going deep a little. It was quite enjoyable actually, as I don't get much out of rapid sucking. After a few minutes she put on the Okamoto super thin condom. She seemed impressed by the thinness of it and, unlike the smaller sizes, it rolled right on. She impaled herself on me in cowgirl, seemingly enjoying herself and playing a bit with herself as we proceeded. She was quite tight as we started out. Her body was not super tight like a 20 why / o, but was still very nice with fairly firm, though small, Ts. I looked for signs of childbirth again but nothing was obvious to me. We switched to missionary, which was really nice. I pounded deep and she rubbed her breasts wile moaning. We switched doggie, which she really seemed to enjoy. The view of a spinner body from behind is always nice. Then on to some brief spooning, where she again played with herself. Then back to missionary where I finished to completion. It took some work to get there, meaning there was nothing magical with these superthin condoms to help me come. So alas, I probably won't be coming again until Sunday or Monday. When I pulled out, she took great interest in looking at my ejaculate, expressing happiness with it. It really wasn't a whole lot, but she made a big deal out of it. She pulled if off me and continued to express glee. We showered and for some reason I gave her a 100 baht tip. I advocate giving tips only when the service is above and beyond. It really wasn't, but the BBBJ was nicely done, and she was cute and bubbly, so I did. Give her an 8 for her face, 8 for body and 7 for performance. I can recommend her as she is so cute and bubbly, but I doubt I will repeat as there are so many others to try.
I then came back to the hotel before headed to WS at about 10 PM. I was still tired and wanted to sleep, but I knew I needed to stay awake to at least midnight. I walked from Soi 13 along BR to WS. There were lots of FL girls out. While the BR traffic was busy, it was not packed. WS itself seemed pretty busy, but missing the throngs of Chinese visitors. There were plenty of Indian men running about, but everyone was behaving. My plan really was just to walk around and maybe step into a place or two, maybe enter Peppermint and say Hi to the mamasan and see if Fon was there, but with no plan to BF anyone. Much to my surprise, while passing by Light House an order lady with an well-shaped body recognized me and come rushing toward me with a big smile and a hug. Huh? I had no idea, then she says she is Bell but, well, I know several Bells and. Oh, THAT Bell! I had not seen her in several trips and forgot about her. This Bell, Lighthouse Bell, is a dynamo, a bit older, but with a body and dance moves that many 18 why / o girls would be hard to match. She is a bit crazy, likes to touch herself as if to marvel at the firmness of her own body, loves to dance, will give you little pecks on the cheek and lips, and is not at all pushy, other than for drinks perhaps. I BF'the her just once and the performance did not match her dancing performance, but she was fun. As I said, she never pushed for a BF and would often give reasons to NOT BFing her, so I used to wonder if she really wanted to have sex with complete strangers for money. Duh. Anyway, here she was, looking older than before in her face, which was dark and showing age, but with the same tight body she always had. How? She was not dressed as a BG, but in almost in regular clothes, and I was not sure if she was even employed by the bar, but she dragged me inside so I guess she was. She said she now worked outside the bar as she was now 40, but I assume she was still bar finable. She was fun to get to know again, and she jumped up on stage to put the other dances to shame. She was as crazy as ever. I told her I had just arrived so she said, yes, I needed to sleep. I said I would still walk around some, but I would stop by later (meaning another day). She agreed I should do that. The bummer is that she will see me often, and I will have to turn her down a lot. That is a bit difficult as she is so friendly and persistent, but I will manage. I am sure I won't BF her as, one, I can barely understand her and, two, the sex that doesn't match the personality. Maybe a second time with her would be better, especially now that she doesn't have to dance and go with whomever, but that older face, despite the hot body, will be a turnoff.
I left her saying good night, but then, lo, I ran into the other Bell! This the one that I seem to run into most every trip. She has a cute face but she like to latch on and not let you go. I noted last trip that I felt kind of sorry for her, and noted she had put on a few pounds. Well, she has put on more weight and is starting to get a little plump! We just exchange some words of greeting and when she looked expectantly at me (for signs I would want to spend time with her), I said bye and moved on. Her marketability is much less with age and fat. Too bad.
I did hit Red Car a couple of times. I think I could have pulled a middle age woman from there but I really wasn't feeling it. I settled for older ladies too much there the last two trips. It wasn't quite packed, but was pretty full by 1 AM. I stepped into Marine bar at about 1 AM and it was dead. A good thing with Marine Bar is the free wireless that you can get outside the bar on the street. I had walked through I-Bar just before and it was fairly well packed. Oh, Lighthouse, when I went inside with Bell, had plenty of room and had a couple of girls dancing naked. The outdoor bars (I. E. Frog bar) were not too busy, with a few of them dead. Sooooo, while the afternoon Pattaya traffic was in gridlock, the bars were showing signs of low season.
I walked back to the hotel and there was still a good selection of SWers along BR. I walked up Soi 13/1 to see how the bars were there, and the street was dead. Tomorrow, I may start looking at some TF girls. Two are expecting me to call soon, but one of then I might skip as some additional pictures showed she was a bit heavy. There is also the one girl who does 3-ways with her lez lover, but I will put her off until next week when I move to the Flipper House where I will have a bigger room. I do hope to get in a fair amount of exercise here and mostly a! Void the junk food. I have put on a few pounds since last time that I need to get off. I have turned into a couch potato almost, so I need to get in lots of walking, lots of mongering exercises, and eat reasonably. But to end Day 1, there was An at O Bar for 1000/300, where I achieved the Big O.
I suppose I should add that I will be in Pattaya for a total of 14 days and this is Day 5, so I have a few reports to post! When done here, I will meet up with my Thai GF where we will spend a few days in Phuket before jetting to Hong Kong for two night at the Disney hotel then taking a cruise to Okinawa. So, now that she is no longer a virgin I am stepping up the game a bit! But, my Pattaya trip, as you will soon see, is off to a slower start than normal but things are not going normally, but that is ok. Much more to come.
I suppose I should add that I will be in Pattaya for a total of 14 days and this is Day 5, so I have a few reports to post! When done here, I will meet up with my Thai GF where we will spend a few days in Phuket before jetting to Hong Kong for two night at the Disney hotel then taking a cruise to Okinawa. So, now that she is no longer a virgin I am stepping up the game a bit! But, my Pattaya trip, as you will soon see, is off to a slower start than normal but things are not going normally, but that is ok. Much more to come.I'm happy you are back. I love reading your reports. I sent you a PM regarding your upcoming 3 way. Enjoy Pattaya and leave some for me as I will be there in 4 weeks time.
Rob.
Special Soi 6 Pricing Alert.
I don't remember that this has been discussed here, but I got a shock while mongering on Soi 6 today. I went to Night Wish, finding several hot girls there. I was set to BF one but then she said the BF was 1000 and she was 2500 Baht! Huh? She was indeed a higher quality girl, but 3,500 total? I wondered if she was trying to avoid me and was quoting a high price due to my age or whatever, but she had been Frenching me and touching me down there, so I dismissed that theory. I politely declined and she did not offer a lower price. She remained polite and continued to touch me, but I thanked her for her time and left. I proceeded to a bar I now can't remember, with more normal looking girls, and did a session for 1000/350. It was not exactly satisfying, even for me, so I went to Chilie Bar (spelling? After that for a fairly normal looking Soi 6 girl. Cute, girl-next-door with a few added pounds, and after a LD and some chatting, I got quoted 800 BF and 2,000 for her! What the heck!? Aint' no way that girl, Noi, was worth that, unless she was some superstar performer possibly. I again wondered if it was age discrimination (perfectly understandable if so), but she had been touching me and stuff, was very friendly and energetic, and had clearly wanted to be BF'the. I again declined and she did not make any lower offer. I can understand prices going up a little after several years, but for a standard rabbit-warren Soi 6 bar, a doubling to tripling of the price seems insane. Possibly Night Wish could pull off an increase, but have you guys noted this?? Have I failed to keep up with the reports here?
And a side note. I accidentally left my phone at the exchange booth there at the Soi 6 entrance. I foolishly didn't even realize I had left it there, instead thinking later when I wanted to check the time that I must have left it at the hotel. But, when I got back to the hotel and walked in, I was surprised when the desk clerk asked if I was in room xxx. Opps, I think, they are going to fine me for the bed sheet with lube stains! But instead they ask if I exchanged money earlier. Ummmm yeah, how did you know that? Turns out my phone was at the exchange booth. I wonder how the heck did they trace me to the hotel? I was fortunate that I had just that day gotten a new SIM card for Thai Internet service, and that my Lady friend, who you will soon be reading about in my reports, was able to Line call me and, when they answered, tell them my location. I would have eventually tracked the phone down – unless the customer behind me decided he wanted an old iPhone – saving me a big headache. Thanks to the nice people who helped. !
Special Soi 6 Pricing Alert.
I don't remember that this has been discussed here, but I got a shock while mongering on Soi 6 today. I went to Night Wish, finding several hot girls there. I was set to BF one but then she said the BF was 1000 and she was 2500 Baht! Huh? She was indeed a higher quality girl, but 3,500 total? I wondered if she was trying to avoid me and was quoting a high price due to my age or whatever, but she had been Frenching me and touching me down there, so I dismissed that theory. I politely declined and she did not offer a lower price. She remained polite and continued to touch me, but I thanked her for her time and left. I proceeded to a bar I now can't remember, with more normal looking girls, and did a session for 1000/350. It was not exactly satisfying, even for me, so I went to Chilie Bar (spelling? After that for a fairly normal looking Soi 6 girl. Cute, girl-next-door with a few added pounds, and after a LD and some chatting, I got quoted 800 BF and 2,000 for her! What the heck!? Aint' no way that girl, Noi, was worth that, unless she was some superstar performer possibly. I again wondered if it was age discrimination (perfectly understandable if so), but she had been touching me and stuff, was very friendly and energetic, and had clearly wanted to be BF'the. I again declined and she did not make any lower offer. I can understand prices going up a little after several years, but for a standard rabbit-warren Soi 6 bar, a doubling to tripling of the price seems insane. Possibly Night Wish could pull off an increase, but have you guys noted this?? Have I failed to keep up with the reports here?Your quoting barfines and then talking about short time prices upstairs. If your taking the girl back to your room for the night those prices seem correct. The bar has to make up for its loss of rooms being booked by the girl, hence the high barfine. And the girl has to make up for her lost rooms by quoting a higher price than a short time room. You failed to mention the time you encountered these prices which does factor into the price.
Tiffany show in Pattaya, show after show a bit funny, look at this shit LOL: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HYHHsv1GVH4.
Engine Driver
04-25-18, 06:12
Nothing new in this article, but the impact on GDP has been grossly overstated.
https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/travel/travel-news/government-crackdowns-cant-seem-to-stop-the-sleaze-in-pattayas-red-light-district/news-story/e563494a7c557dea5a0a50b614a715e7
Your quoting barfines and then talking about short time prices upstairs. If your taking the girl back to your room for the night those prices seem correct. The bar has to make up for its loss of rooms being booked by the girl, hence the high barfine. And the girl has to make up for her lost rooms by quoting a higher price than a short time room. You failed to mention the time you encountered these prices which does factor into the price.The comparisons occurred during a single trip to Soi 6 during the afternoon on Tuesday and all were all for ST. 2500 and 1000 for LT are hardly shocking nor hardly merit an alert here. I will be posting full details in my Tuesday report, coming soon. I am just curious if this has been the standard of those two clubs I just happened to visit, or what.
LittleBigMan
04-25-18, 13:45
The comparisons occurred during a single trip to Soi 6 during the afternoon on Tuesday and all were all for ST. 2500 and 1000 for LT are hardly shocking nor hardly merit an alert here. I will be posting full details in my Tuesday report, coming soon. I am just curious if this has been the standard of those two clubs I just happened to visit, or what.I think the question is being ask which hasn't been answered? The prices quoted you was it for the girl leaving with you to your hotel?
If you were asking the girl to use their room upstairs then the price quoted you isn't within the range! I know he has recently raise his ST room rate to like 400-500 baht, but 2500 on the premises I think not. I can't remember the other bar you mentioned but the Night Wish group runs around 6-8 bars on Soi 6, including J-Gentlemen Club if they haven't found a sucker for that place yet.
If you clarify, I know the head owner of the Night Wish group can ask him if I get more of the specifics.
Member #4591
04-25-18, 14:53
The comparisons occurred during a single trip to Soi 6 during the afternoon on Tuesday and all were all for ST. 2500 and 1000 for LT are hardly shocking nor hardly merit an alert here. I will be posting full details in my Tuesday report, coming soon. I am just curious if this has been the standard of those two clubs I just happened to visit, or what.FL Hawk, I know your English is good so why are you having trouble clarifying your post? Your numbers in this second post are even more confusing, ST 2,500 and LT 1000?
The question is simple. Were the inflated prices you were quoted for using the bars short time rooms or to take the girl outside? Again, if the prices quoted were for taking the girl out of the bar, then those prices are correct.
What I think happened in your situation, is you were quoted a price for taking the girl out of the bar. Next time, clarify when you make the inquiry what you want, on the premises, or outside the bar. You have posted several times about Soi 6 so I know you know what you are doing. I am wondering if you were drunk at the time you posted that alert on the forum?
Maybe sexually frustrated, but not drunk. I have had zero alcohol this trip. But.
I wrote "The comparisons occurred during a single trip to Soi 6 during the afternoon on Tuesday and all were all for ST. " I do not see how this can be confusing. I had, in all cases, talked about "going upstairs" with the girls. There was never any talk of LT or leaving the club.
I next wrote "2500 and 1000 for LT are hardly shocking nor hardly merit an alert here. " So I was clear that I DID NOT feel that those prices, for LT, were anything out of the ordinary. Meaning, if I had asked for LT I would hardly have been surprised with that pricing and I would not have come here to inquire about it.
What IS out of the ordinary and which I guess I am having trouble conveying, is that Night Wish quoted me 1000 BF and 2500 for the girl for ST upstairs. Chilie Bar quoted me 800 BF and 2000 for the girl, again for ST upstairs. Is this their new normal pricing or, given the confusion I am seeing here, was I somehow misunderstood by the girls? I mean, I said ST here and people think I may have said LT, so who knows? Haha.
So, to again answer the "unanswered question":
QUESTION: Were the inflated prices you were quoted for using the bars short time rooms or to take the girl outside?
ORIGINAL ANSWER: The comparisons occurred during a single trip to Soi 6 during the afternoon on Tuesday and all were all for ST.
FINAL ANSWER: It was to use the bar's short time rooms upstairs.
But sorry for the apparent confusion! I hope if one of you has recently been to either of these clubs you can confirm pricing. I may go back tomorrow and confirm. If LittleBig Man can speak with the club owner, maybe the owner can speak with Jen to see if she remembers. But for sure, I very specifically remember asking her to go upstairs. I do hope I somehow confused the girls, though this whole trip I have consistently asked about going upstairs. Oh well. I hope it is all just a misunderstanding. Night Wish had some hot girls! 350/1000 for a couple of them would be a bargain!
Uncle Volodya
04-25-18, 17:01
Maybe sexually frustrated, but not drunk. I have had zero alcohol this trip. But.
I wrote "The comparisons occurred during a single trip to Soi 6 during the afternoon on Tuesday and all were all for ST. " I do not see how this can be confusing. I had, in all cases, talked about "going upstairs" with the girls. There was never any talk of LT or leaving the club.
I next wrote "2500 and 1000 for LT are hardly shocking nor hardly merit an alert here. " So I was clear that I DID NOT feel that those prices, for LT, were anything out of the ordinary. Meaning, if I had asked for LT I would hardly have been surprised with that pricing and I would not have come here to inquire about it.
What IS out of the ordinary and which I guess I am having trouble conveying, is that Night Wish quoted me 1000 BF and 2500 for the girl for ST upstairs. Chilie Bar quoted me 800 BF and 2000 for the girl, again for ST upstairs. Is this their new normal pricing or, given the confusion I am seeing here, was I somehow misunderstood by the girls? I mean, I said ST here and people think I may have said LT, so who knows? Haha.
So, to again answer the "unanswered question":
QUESTION: Were the inflated prices you were quoted for using the bars short time rooms or to take the girl outside?
ORIGINAL ANSWER: The comparisons occurred during a single trip to Soi 6 during the afternoon on Tuesday and all were all for ST.
FINAL ANSWER: It was to use the bar's short time rooms upstairs.
But sorry for the apparent confusion! I hope if one of you has recently been to either of these clubs you can confirm pricing. I may go back tomorrow and confirm. If LittleBig Man can speak with the club owner, maybe the owner can speak with Jen to see if she remembers. But for sure, I very specifically remember asking her to go upstairs. I do hope I somehow confused the girls, though this whole trip I have consistently asked about going upstairs. Oh well. I hope it is all just a misunderstanding. Night Wish had some hot girls! 350/1000 for a couple of them would be a bargain!I'd really be shocked if it wasn't a misunderstanding. ST prices on the six are set and I've never paid more than 1000 + 350.
In your first post you said that tit was your first day so maybe chalk it all up to jetlag. It happens to the best of us.
Christian G
04-25-18, 20:04
What IS out of the ordinary and which I guess I am having trouble conveying, is that Night Wish quoted me 1000 BF and 2500 for the girl for ST upstairs. Chilie Bar quoted me 800 BF and 2000 for the girl, again for ST upstairs. Is this their new normal pricing or, given the confusion I am seeing here, was I somehow misunderstood by the girls? I mean, I said ST here and people think I may have said LT, so who knows? Haha.Prices in soi6 for ST in the rooms upstairs are always the same. The only increased there was in some bars for the use of their rooms, all Nightwish Group bars are now 400 baht for the rooms upstairs and Chili, Route69 and Candy now cost 350 baht for the rooms.
Prices in soi6 for ST in the rooms upstairs are always the same. The only increased there was in some bars for the use of their rooms, all Nightwish Group bars are now 400 baht for the rooms upstairs and Chili, Route69 and Candy now cost 350 baht for the rooms.Good to hear.
Thanks for checking the two clubs out for me. Hope this has all been some sort of freakish misunderstanding. I am far too experienced and set in my ways than to have mixed up ST and LT pricing, but if things haven't really changed, that is all that matters. I hope to be having a nice time with Jen and perhaps Noi very soon. I need it, as my time with a Waht's Up hottie did not turn out well last night.
OK, here is another problem. How do I handle it? Was at What's Up last night. BF'd a cute girl after buying her and BB's friend a number of drinks. Things were going well, except the girl, Wan, Number 84, can barely understand English. BF'd her, 4000 for her and 2000 to the club. Expensive, but they have a bunch of hot girls. For ST. Back at my place, she was not exactly active, but neither a Star Fish. NO BJ, some light FK and FIV. Started the deed. She was on top for a while, then missionary for a short while then doggie. She started drying out so I put on some lube and went back inside her. She was moaning and doing a little bit of touching me, as well as touching herself, but still pretty low key. But her body is the perfect size and was smooth with a handful of Ts and all else seems to be going well. I am feeling like I will be able to hit the Big O with her, but she was starting to dry out just a little so I pulled out to add more lube so I could make the big run home in comfort. We had been at it for maybe 15 minutes at this point, if that. But when I pull out and reach for the lube, she gets up and heads to the bathroom, then I hear the shower turn on! What the beep? I have been quiet, saying very little, certainly no "OMG I am coming baby! Nor did I suddenly start pumping hard and fast to indicated I came. She comes out dressed and I say, quietly and with no malice, 'I haven't come yet! No comment from her and 15 seconds later she is gone.
I had been a pure gentleman with her! I was showered and smelled good, was respectful of her totally. Didn't force her to do anything, was gentle, quiet, soft spoken, don't smoke or drink, and relatively slender for my age, not ugly or at least overly ugly, . ? Why did she leave and what, if anything should I do.
Most Thai girls take it personally when you don't come. This girl simply bolted out of there when she saw the chance. Yes, yes, there is the implication I was mean or was hurting her or something, but that was not the case. Or if my pumping was hurting her, she said nothing about it and, at that point, I was being pretty tame anyway. Heck, I am the kind who, if I think I am hurting a girl, I will volunteer to stop, as I don't want to hurt anyone or make anyone uncomfortable regardless of it I am paying then or not.
I really don't want to get her in trouble, especially if I was unknowingly hurting her, but dashing away is unacceptable behavior after I spent close to 8000 be in that club all totaled!
Should I go back with her and get with the friend to interpret and ask her why she left? Should I go in and BF someone else? I don't know if speaking with the mamason would do anygood there. Just slip the club in the future. But despite high prices, they do have the best looking girls on the street. Thanks!
I will try to be a bit more concise today than yesterday. I am still jet lagged and have chosen to try to nap in the afternoon so I will be awake in the early morning hours so as to take full advantage of WS. So, today I started the mongering late, not hitting Soi 6 until after the sun was down. As with yesterday there are plenty of girls but the pickings were slim. I did find a suitable girl, An, at Halifax. Not really the prettiest, but something about her was attractive to me. Not quite a spinner, she was slender, probably in her latter 20's, with shortish hair. We went inside to talk and after sharing drinks (me, soda) end up upstairs. An gave an awesome performance overall. Her BBBJ was awesome, and she seemed to love sex. Of course, with covered sex, there would be no release as I released yesterday, but man did she try! She didn't want to give up. She tried positions with me I had never done before. In one, I was on my side and she was perpendicular to me, leaning back on her arms with me in between her extended legs, making it easy to see my Johnson sliding in and out of her. She was wet and stayed wet and I finally had to stop her as I know we were at our time limit, and I was starting to go numb. She didn't rush to clean up and that point, but laid there with her legs still open, inviting me to climb back on and continued – which I did just to make her happy. The apcalis kept me hard. There was no kissing which was a down side, but overall she was a great provider. It wasn't until we were done that I realized why I had the hots for her so much – she resembled my lady barber / stylist, who is Korean. I have had the hots for her for over a decade, almost getting the chance to date her. That is another story though.
I do think we overextended our hour, and if her boss was upset I let her know An did great and I would return, which I plan to. The only downside was she was not too open to kissing. She was 27 and did have a see-section scar, but her body was in decent shape with a nice handful of soft, not quite sagging Ts. So certainly not a super great body, but not bad at all, and she had that great attitude. Give a 7 or maybe higher for face, 7+ for body (slender but with minor baby damage) and 9 for performance. Standard Soi 6 rates of 300/1000, and I tipped her 200. I do want to see her again.
After that, I headed to WS to meet up with Banana Boy. We hit several clubs, to include Infinity and What's Up. I had never been to What's Up, but man did they have some hot women! BB, of course, seems to have a GF at each club in the city, and he can make new ones even treading down a flooded street!. He introduced me to his friend, who is just a sweetheart, and she helped pull over another girl, who was really hot, Wan. I figured I would BF Wan later in the week. (Remember this girl Wan.) I hear What's Up is expensive, but I budgeted for a few such girls, so I do plan to return.
After BB had to leave, I was still feeing empowered and ended up at Marine Bar. I figured since I had been using their wifi I should go in, now that it was late and was just starting to fill up, and get a soda. I staked out a table and, like I had done 18 months earlier, awaited the girls to arrive and want to share my table as the place filled. Well, the club was pretty full but no girls came by to share my table. I wanted to leave so I decided that I would wait for some cute girls to walk by who were looking for a table and offer mine to them. If they happened to talk to me I might stay to see how things went, otherwise I would leave. Eventually, two ladies did come by and offered the table to then, and one of them did start talking to me, so I stayed.
She was a bit older but with a good body. But the ear splitting so-called music and her English (which I think was ok except that her accent was too strong), we had difficulties communicating. I also wondered if she was wasted on beer, as she kept asking me the same questions over and over. But from what I can make up, she was 46 years old (but dang nice bod) She had a well-to-do husband who died but left her a house up north and a condo in Bangkok. I later learned she has bolt-on boobs that she got a few years ago, and this is her second trip to Pattaya, the first being a year ago, or so she says. She says she went to Bangkok to visit her daughter and then came down to Pattaya for a 5-day holiday. She had come with a friend last year, and this year she was by herself, staying at a hotel on Second road. But I could get no indication if she was here to make money off of her body or what? I mean, the answer seems obvious, that she was here for money, but I don't know that if was that simple. It was probably more of her looking for a man to support her. IDK.
When it was about 4:30 AM I said I needed to go and while she had a hotel close to mine, she asked if I wanted her to stay with me. I said fine, but she said it was only to sleep. I said fine. At the hotel, she seemed surprised about having to turn over her ID as we entered. She and the lady at the desk spoke some words and she looked and said "They want me to give them my ID!" That was not the reaction of a woman familiar with the ways of women wanting money. In the room, she showered on her own and repeated about this being only to sleep. Fine I said, as I was tired. It was around 5 AM. She kept her towel wrapped around her and after my shower I crawled in bed with her and, yes, fell asleep.
I have chosen not to identify her. I will just refer to her as my Lady, as she was. To be continued.
My Lady and I slept until nearly 10 AM. And then we did the deed. Maybe she decided I had money and she wanted to establish a relationship, or that if she didn't have sex I wouldn't give her money, I do not know. She gave an awesome, slow, soft BBBJ. Excellent quality if you like it slow and soft, which I do. I might possibly have come orally, but I didn't know if I would see her agaoin and I wanted intercourse, which I soon got covered. I was amazed at her huge, bolt-on breasts, which I had not seen coming, though they were too firm and unnatural-feeling. Still, impressive. I could not come, of course, which bugged her. I explained my situation, but make clear I was expecting BB from her. She stuck around and then showed the first signs of attraction for me. She wanted to have lunch with me. OK, so we got dressed and went to the Central Festival food court. After lunch, I walked her to her nearby hotel, then she wanted to see me later and walk on the beach. Hmmmmm We had exchanged Line, but I had not yet got a Thai SIM card, so I only had Internet at my hotel, or at the Marine Bar, thus giving me an excuse about not answering her texts that started coming.
With her gone for the afternoon at least, I got onto TF and hooked up with Poona55, a new girl. She looked pretty decent in the photos (which have changed), but less attractive in person. She has been constantly online so she replied immediately to my inquiry. She was quick to ask how much I would give her. I said 1000 plus 100 for travel. She replied saying "Sorry, I need 1500" So I agreed and she was there in 20 minutes. I had showered and she took one when she arrived, then in bed, she started off with a slow BBBJ then got a little firmer. It was pretty good, then on went a condom and she climbed on top. No kissing and while she gave a good effort, I gave up after a short while. Just wasn't feeling it, but that was not all her fault. She asked why I didn't come and I told her. She said she only does BB with her BF, and I told her good for her. At no point did I ask to go BB, and I was serious about telling her to stay safe. She left and I showered again and laid down for a nap. Give Poona a 6 for face, 6+ for body and 6 for performance. She was ok, friendly, prompt and all, but nothing to make me want to see her again. But she seems to hang out on TF and is prompt to reply, so give her a shout if you need a quickie.
I was exhausted from staying up so late, and slept much of the afternoon after Poona left, not really waking until my Lady called me at about 7 PM. I slept later than I should have and remained a bit groggy for several hours.
We met up and went to dinner at a cheap place near her hotel, then headed to WS. We went into a couple of places where they played music, I can't remember the names. IMiami being one I think. The music was too loud, but even so, I found myself nearly nodding off if I closed my eyes. By 2 AM we were back at the hotel, and this time we had BB sex. She was afraid I might get her pregnant but, nope, I was cut years ago. I, of course, was concerned about STDs, but she assured me she was clean. I hope! The BJ was shorter in duration this time, then she climbed on and after a few minutes with her on top of me, she asked why I hadn't come yet. Well, she really wasn't moving in and out sufficiently to give me much stimulation, so I said I need to be on top, so we rolled over, and the fabulous sensations of a very wet lady got me off in short order. I rushed to the shower, followed by her. She still didn't seem to want to be together in the bathroom at the same time, and she still did little kissing during the deed. I really don't understand this relationship. I sense she wants to hang with me, and she is starting to show signs of caring, or at least watching my spending, but I it still seems artificial to me. Plus, I have a Thai GF already where I can definitely feel the love. We fell asleep, though I kept waking up every hour to [CodeWord111] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord111) due to all the soda I drank.
But to summarize today. There was Poona from TF for 1500, and my Lady again for the cost of a meal and some drinks.
Jimmy Boy 99
04-26-18, 07:29
OK, here is another problem. How do I handle it? Was at What's Up last night. BF'd a cute girl after buying her and BB's friend a number of drinks. Things were going well, except the girl, Wan, Number 84, can barely understand English. BF'd her, 4000 for her and 2000 to the club. Expensive, but they have a bunch of hot girls. For ST. Back at my place, she was not exactly active, but neither a Star Fish. NO BJ, some light FK and FIV. Started the deed. She was on top for a while, then missionary for a short while then doggie. She started drying out so I put on some lube and went back inside her. She was moaning and doing a little bit of touching me, as well as touching herself, but still pretty low key. But her body is the perfect size and was smooth with a handful of Ts and all else seems to be going well. I am feeling like I will be able to hit the Big O with her, but she was starting to dry out just a little so I pulled out to add more lube so I could make the big run home in comfort. We had been at it for maybe 15 minutes at this point, if that. But when I pull out and reach for the lube, she gets up and heads to the bathroom, then I hear the shower turn on! What the beep? I have been quiet, saying very little, certainly no "OMG I am coming baby! Nor did I suddenly start pumping hard and fast to indicated I came. She comes out dressed and I say, quietly and with no malice, 'I haven't come yet! No comment from her and 15 seconds later she is gone.
I had been a pure gentleman with her! I was showered and smelled good, was respectful of her totally. Didn't force her to do anything, was gentle, quiet, soft spoken, don't smoke or drink, and relatively slender for my age, not ugly or at least overly ugly, . ? Why did she leave and what, if anything should I do.
Most Thai girls take it personally when you don't come. This girl simply bolted out of there when she saw the chance. Yes, yes, there is the implication I was mean or was hurting her or something, but that was not the case. Or if my pumping was hurting her, she said nothing about it and, at that point, I was being pretty tame anyway. Heck, I am the kind who, if I think I am hurting a girl, I will volunteer to stop, as I don't want to hurt anyone or make anyone uncomfortable regardless of it I am paying then or not.
I really don't want to get her in trouble, especially if I was unknowingly hurting her, but dashing away is unacceptable behavior after I spent close to 8000 be in that club all totaled!
Should I go back with her and get with the friend to interpret and ask her why she left? Should I go in and BF someone else? I don't know if speaking with the mamason would do anygood there. Just slip the club in the future. But despite high prices, they do have the best looking girls on the street. Thanks!Did you discuss with her expected services and amount of time she would spend with you before barfining her? Why did you not adjust her fee based on her service (or lack thereof) and minimal time in the room? Had you prepaid the 4000 bhat at the bar or to her? 6000 bhat for 15 minutes is mighty expensive.
Engine Driver
04-26-18, 07:39
Should I go back with her and get with the friend to interpret and ask her why she left? Should I go in and BF someone else? I don't know if speaking with the mamason would do anygood there. Just slip the club in the future. But despite high prices, they do have the best looking girls on the street. Thanks!Unless we have lived in Thailand for a very long time (10+ years) and are fluent in the local language, we will never understand how the mind of a Thai bar girl (or any Thai girl) works. It's best not to go back to that bar again. Avoid any confrontation where the girl could lose face. You are a guest in a foreign country, so put it down to experience and move on. 6,000 THB is not a big amount for a foreign tourist and there are plenty more girls to chase.
6,000 THB could also get you a very nice escort in BKK, who will generally deliver the contracted services. Their customer ratings are important, so it's a safe bet.
Special Soi 6 Pricing Alert.
I again wondered if it was age discrimination (perfectly understandable if so), but she had been touching me and stuff, was very friendly and energetic, and had clearly wanted to be BF'the. I again declined and she did not make any lower offer. I can understand prices going up a little after several years, but for a standard rabbit-warren Soi 6 bar, a doubling to tripling of the price seems insane. Possibly Night Wish could pull off an increase, but have you guys noted this?? Have I failed to keep up with the reports here?From what I hear, thai bargirls are just like any other employee. They will will often try to cheat the system (ie: like how a worker will cheat their timesheet or a waiter will steal money by removing food orders from the restaurant and pocketing the difference). In this case, she wasn't stealing or anything as bad as that. But I think she was trying to improve her fortune at the expense of yourself and the unspoken concept of a "soi 6 rate" which we all know about. On the monger side, it's just known that 1000-1500 is the price for ST. Doubling that is really off-putting as this isn't a nightclub with high priced hookers looking to charge high prices to rich foreigners near / in an expensive hotel.
Anyway, this kind of thing happens. People trying to get away with more than they can. Give someone an inch and they take a mile kind of thing. And / Or I think she heard a friend who did this, bragged, and now feels envious or entitled to 2500/ ST. Thai girls care a lot about their working girls peers sometimes.
Mr Enternational
04-26-18, 09:12
I really don't want to get her in trouble, especially if I was unknowingly hurting her, but dashing away is unacceptable behavior after I spent close to 8000 be in that club all totaled!
Should I go back with her and get with the friend to interpret and ask her why she left? Should I go in and BF someone else? I don't know if speaking with the mamason would do anygood there. Just slip the club in the future. But despite high prices, they do have the best looking girls on the street. Thanks!If you did not give her the money would she be trying to get you in trouble? If I spent 8000 baht and was not satisfied, I would definitely be trying to get someone in trouble. I would not say throwing good money after bad is the answer. Just call it a loss. I am not as big of a monger to spend that much on pussy. I would rather have 5 of those 1500 chicks you were talking about than 1 8000 chick. You got 5 chances to get something good with the 5 chicks. I couldn't put all my faith into one expensive experience. I make every chick wash their face when they come to my room anyway, so the glitz and glamour has left the building. I like fucking personalities more so than looks.
Ok, I went back to Night Wish and spoke with Jen. It seems that we had a language problem. She can barely understand English, and when I asked her what the bar fines were as I may have misunderstood the other day, her eyes glazed over and she called over another girl to translate. The girl quoted the prices we all here were expecting, so what happened was Jen simply heard me say "bar file", failed to understand what "go upstairs" meant, and gave me (I like to think) the term she wanted to have with me. She is new here, so maybe she is still on her learning curve.
I did go not go back to check at the other place, but I have to assume something similar happened.
Sorry about the false alarm guys!
I did have a session with this hottie and she was night and day different from Wan at What's Up. Mr. E's wisdom shines again and was prophetic.
I also saw An again at Halifax, and had a scare. The police came to visit as we were, um, involved upstairs. We were warned and quickly got dressed, but no one came upstairs. I guess it was just a single officer, and he had been to someplace out there the previous day. No idea what he was doing, but all was well.
As for Wan from What's Up, perhaps the best thing for me to do is to go back and see her, and bring Noi over as interpreter, as Wan is as bad as Jen with English. It is possible she had a valid reason. Before I cause anyone to lose face or make a big deal out of something that isn't again, I should bring it up with her. I doubt I will go to the mamasan with this, but if I unknowingly do something wrong, I want to know so it doesn't happen again. Regardless, I advise all to avoid Wan. As Mr E will like to hear me say, you can have the super cute Jen four times for just one time with Wan.
Did you discuss with her expected services and amount of time she would spend with you before barfining her? Why did you not adjust her fee based on her service (or lack thereof) and minimal time in the room? Had you prepaid the 4000 bhat at the bar or to her? 6000 bhat for 15 minutes is mighty expensive.I think some guys paying enormous amounts never think about service they get.
It just plesßes their ego thinking the more they pay, the better they receive.
Proof is that, after all, they are still happy.
Did you discuss with her expected services and amount of time she would spend with you before barfining her? Why did you not adjust her fee based on her service (or lack thereof) and minimal time in the room? Had you prepaid the 4000 bhat at the bar or to her? 6000 bhat for 15 minutes is mighty expensive.With What's Up, you pay everything in advance. Good for the girl as she doesn't have to worry about getting stiffed, but the guy looses most of his ability to compensate for getting cheated. I have this situation before where I refused to pay the girl's fee in advance, saying I didn't have enough cash with me, but I had it at the hotel. They let her go with me. I don't know if I could have pulled that off here. Everything was going well so I really didn't feel too concerned. Live and learn guys!
LittleBigMan
04-27-18, 02:03
Ok, I went back to Night Wish and spoke with Jen. It seems that we had a language problem. She can barely understand English, and when I asked her what the bar fines were as I may have misunderstood the other day, her eyes glazed over and she called over another girl to translate. The girl quoted the prices we all here were expecting, so what happened was Jen simply heard me say "bar file", failed to understand what "go upstairs" meant, and gave me (I like to think) the term she wanted to have with me. She is new here, so maybe she is still on her learning curve.
I did go not go back to check at the other place, but I have to assume something similar happened.
Sorry about the false alarm guys!
I did have a session with this hottie and she was night and day different from Wan at What's Up. Mr. E's wisdom shines again and was prophetic.
I also saw An again at Halifax, and had a scare. The police came to visit as we were, um, involved upstairs. We were warned and quickly got dressed, but no one came upstairs. I guess it was just a single officer, and he had been to someplace out there the previous day. No idea what he was doing, but all was well.
As for Wan from What's Up, perhaps the best thing for me to do is to go back and see her, and bring Noi over as interpreter, as Wan is as bad as Jen with English. It is possible she had a valid reason. Before I cause anyone to lose face or make a big deal out of something that isn't again, I should bring it up with her. I doubt I will go to the mamasan with this, but if I unknowingly do something wrong, I want to know so it doesn't happen again. Regardless, I advise all to avoid Wan. As Mr E will like to hear me say, you can have the super cute Jen four times for just one time with Wan.Sorry a bit late, it seems you got your answer to the problem. I spoke to the main owner of the Night wish online yesterday and we pretty agree must be a communication problem.
With What's Up, you pay everything in advance. Good for the girl as she doesn't have to worry about getting stiffed, but the guy looses most of his ability to compensate for getting cheated. I have this situation before where I refused to pay the girl's fee in advance, saying I didn't have enough cash with me, but I had it at the hotel. They let her go with me. I don't know if I could have pulled that off here. Everything was going well so I really didn't feel too concerned. Live and learn guys!I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but "no" you don't pay first at any bar the entire money for the girl. You are asking to be ripped off "most of the time. " I've barfined about 20 plus girls from What's Up and Imagine (upstairs, same owner) and never had to pay upfront for any of them. Barfine for short time is 1000 and long time is 1500 at What's Up. I've never had to pay 2000 for a barfine except for the models at Palace. For the girls you pay 3000 (not 4000 like you did) for short and 5000 long like every other bar. And "yes" those prices are recent as I am a regular customer at What's Up.
Uncle Volodya
04-27-18, 04:31
Ok, I went back to Night Wish and spoke with Jen. It seems that we had a language problem. She can barely understand English, and when I asked her what the bar fines were as I may have misunderstood the other day, her eyes glazed over and she called over another girl to translate. The girl quoted the prices we all here were expecting, so what happened was Jen simply heard me say "bar file", failed to understand what "go upstairs" meant, and gave me (I like to think) the term she wanted to have with me. She is new here, so maybe she is still on her learning curve.
Not to get into semantics, but I can understand how she got confused when you asked about "bar fine". Bar fine is generally understood to mean leaving the premises of the bar.
Form my experience, doing the deed on premises on Soi 6 is usually referred to as "go upstairs" or "go room" or simply by pointing or nodding up. And its usually the girl making the overture to go.
I don't think I've ever asked a girl on Soi 6 about prices for going upstairs as it is standard in every bar. Though some charge 300 and others 350 and 400 for the room. I can't be bothered to haggle over $3.
Not to get into semantics, but I can understand how she got confused when you asked about "bar fine". Bar fine is generally understood to mean leaving the premises of the bar.
Form my experience, doing the deed on premises on Soi 6 is usually referred to as "go upstairs" or "go room" or simply by pointing or nodding up. And its usually the girl making the overture to go.
I don't think I've ever asked a girl on Soi 6 about prices for going upstairs as it is standard in every bar. Though some charge 300 and others 350 and 400 for the room. I can't be bothered to haggle over $3.I actually said "go upstairs", and my best memory is that I actually said "300 bar fine and 1000 for you", more as a statement than question, as that is what had been working for me. That is when she said "no" and quoted what turns out to be the LT price. But certainly it was all a misunderstanding that I over-reacted to, given I had the same experience at two bars and I wanted to quickly get the word out. I should have simply asked for clarification from another person, but failed to do that. My apologies for all the wasted time!
My Lady, who had now spent her second night with me, and I got out of bed at about 8 am and went to breakfast. She sort of inquired about staying with me through Friday. Sheesh. I said I had things to do and that she needed to go see her daughter. She did not question me, fortunately. She then told me she would check out of her hotel today and move in with me for one night. I said one day was ok, but this girl was starting to crimp my style! But one more day would be fine as I was finding I liked sleeping with an attractive woman in my bed. I will certainly have to make her leave if she stays past Tuesday morning! She is a nice lady, is not overly imposing, is looking out for me and all that, and I am certainly happy to have such a relatively attractive, age-appropriate mature lady with me when walking round. But I don't feel any real love from her as she claims. How could there be love after 2 days?? A woman in love will kiss her man and she still didn't like kissing much with me, and the long, slow BJ from the first night was markedly less in quality and duration the second night. What will it be like tonight? And though she seems to be a real lady and probably a good catch for an older gentleman, I compared her to my Thai GF, and my Thai GF is crazy about kissing and is constantly thinking of me and things she can do for me, not to mention chasing after me when I came in her mouth to make sure she got every last drop of me! That is love! Haha. But I still wonder what the Lady's real story is and why she is really in Pattaya. Is she running out of money and is looking for an older gentleman to move in and take care of her? She has still not asked for a penny from me (other than what I spend on food and drinks and now, I guess, a day in a hotel), and for all she knows I might not give her anything and her trip would be an utter and complete waste. This does not sound like she is for selling her body exactly.
After breakfast we walk around town a little, then we come back to the hotel and take a nap. I am especially feeling the jet lag or maybe simply reacting to getting up at such widely disparate times the last few days. She work me at 4 pm from a deep sleep that leaves me a bit disoriented. We went to Sizzler for dinner at about 6 PM after she had patiently waited an hour for me to deal with some family issues from back home on the phone. After dinner we walked to WS which was just starting to get going. She had never been all the way south, so we walked down to just past McDonalds. The influx of Chinese guests at that time was staggering. Wave after wave. There were a lot of Indians, most in male gangs of 2 to 6. We turned around to go with the flow back north. She wanted to sit in a music bar and listen to music, so we stopped at one place for a while, don't remember where, maybe Miami. We then stopped at Frog Bar, which had a couple of cute girls. Not sure why she wanted to sit there, but I enjoyed it! But I did notice that when you are with a women, these bar girls treat you different! Later, we went to a music bar across from Lighthouse, where Bell saw me and feigned crying as I had a woman. Sitting inside the bar by the window I could see her in her cute, yellow Sailor outfit, cheerful and having fun. Inside the bar, one of the guys singing specifically asked me if I had any requests, and a waitress came by for me to write it down. Not knowing what songs they knew I wrote down 5. The waitress later comes back and asks for a 100 B tip per song as I had asked for so many. What?! I gave 100 and said they could pick whichever, expressing some dissatisfaction that after they asked for a song they wanted payment. They ended up playing 2, but when do you ask for suggestions then demand a tip?
We left a little later and came back to the hotel at about 10 PM. I am not an overly happy camper at this point and it appears I will be going to bed even earlier, exacerbating my jet lag. And a whole day in Pattaya wasted pretty much with no new girls to be with. She takes a shower to prepare for bed and sex, and I grow even more concerned about my sleeping times. Two days ago we were up past 5 AM. Yesterday it was 2 AM and I couldn't sleep past 6 AM, and now we will be in bed apparently before 11 PM! But hey, I will get BB sex one more time, and she leaves tomorrow, so whatever.
But the sex is actually getting worse. The BBBJ was brief and she again was kind of encouraging me to hurry up and come. She says she loves me, but then she turns her face to minimize kissing during sex. But she had said she would get a taxi in the morning to take her home. I mention the Bell Bus, but she wants a taxi. But she did tell me she would leave by taxi in the morning.
I have a tough time falling asleep so early. I do manage to sleep for a short while, but I am again waking every hour to [CodeWord134] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134) from all the water and soda, And my body is achy and tense, so I try to stretch out, which itself is painful, s0 I take an aspirin for the discomfort. I read the news from mu phone, and even think of leaving for WS, etc. I probably again doze off around 4 or 5 AM, then go back to sleep finally waking up for good at 7 AM, but it has been a fitful sleep and my body clock is now messed up. Thankfully, she wakes and asks for breakfast at 8 AM. We get back at about 9:30 and she announces she will leave for Bangkok at 10 AM. She had taken a taxi down and will take a taxi back, which she says costs 1500 B, to her condo in Bangkok. So now through all of this, her taking a taxi and not a bus; her recent boob job; probable face lift; her general classiness and maturity, all support that she is not exactly a working lady and probably simply wants a man to continue to support her. She may have taken a risk to come down and spent all her time with me. But still, I am not sure why she is here. She did not ask me for money, but I volunteered to pay her transportation of 3000 B round trip. She was accepting of it, duh, and I escorted her outside at 10 PM and loaded her into a taxi. I have made her out as sort of ruining my mongering, and she sort of did, but it was not all that bad having an attentive lady in bed and to walk around with.
Since leaving, she has texted me messages of love and wanting to see me again and for me to take her to Phuket next time, but I really see no real love in her. I mean, I see affection and wanting a partner, but not true, passionate love. Sex was just something to get my attention and possibly trap me. But she is gone and I need to re-start my mongering! I will mostly ignore her messages as there is no possibility of a relationship.
Anyway, with the Lady gone, I thought of things I needed to do today. First, I needed to get a new SIM car for my phone. I had put that off as I didn't want the Lady to know she could phone me at any time! I went to Central and got the SIM card installed and internet established with dtac, then returned to the hotel. I rested / wrote a bit, then decided to go back to the Central mall and get a nice pair of sunglasses (I left mine at home), as the sun is blinding when walking west on Soi 6. I also needed to restock my apcalis, and I wanted to see a girl or two on Soi 6, and / or maybe hook up with a TF or Tinder girl. Then tonight I thought I might go back to What's Up and see the girl Wan I had met.
So, I headed out to Central Festival. I didn't want a cheap pair of sunglasses and I found a very nice pair on sale at a semi-upscale store. The store gave me a case, a box to put the case in, and a fancy paper bag to carry it all home in. I then went outside, hailed a baht bus and got off just south of Soi 6 at a little mall that has a pharmacy. I wanted a box of 4, 20 MG tablet, which had a cost of 650 be, but I found my cash was insufficient. I headed up the exchange booth to exchange dollars for baths. I was a bit loaded down with my cargo pants pockets being a bit stuffed and carrying that bag, and I had problems finding my cash and passport copy. In frustration of not being able to find the dollars and the passport photo, I started to empty my pockets, laying things out on the shelf of the booth until finally I found what I needed. (Kind of stupid thing to do, but I am careful and no one was behind me at the time.) I finally found everything, exchanged the money then headed back to the pharmacy to pick up the medicine. I may have heard someone shout, but I looked back and didn't see anyone, so I continued walking.
I got the meds and went back past the booth and entered Soi 6. It was pretty hot and the sun was blaring down making it difficult to see the girls. Even with my fancy sunglasses, it was difficult to see without shielding the sun with a hand, or finding a shadow cast by an overhead sign to stand in. I rather quickly walked down to BR before turning around to put the sun now to my back to where I could easily see the girls. I found a really cute spinner of high quality at Night Wish bar. They actually had several very attractive girls, but I was happy with Jen. Very pretty indeed wonderful legs and a model-quality face. She started warming up to me after a bit, to include some kissing and rubbing my Johnson. I do wonder at times if some of these girls are turned off to older dudes, but I like to think that since I am still relatively slender and have most of hair and that I don't smoke I remain acceptable to them. But after a good while of some light chatting (difficult as her English was poor and, dang, I must have left my phone with the translation ap at the hotel) with my slightly enlarged Johnson, I told her I want to "go upstairs", citing "300 barfine and 1000 for you" as more of a statement for her to confirm than a question. But noooo, she said the BF was 1000 and she wanted 2500! What the beep?! I said that was too much for Soi 6 and declined. She stuck with me, saying nothing, but still trying to temp me. I gave her a chance to lower her fee but didn't, so I gathered up my sunglass bag and departed. Night Wish is not some fancy bar that would lead one to believe there is anything special about it, so why they want to charge 3 x the going rate I do not know. UPDATE: As I previously posted in real time, the issue was language miscommunications. She was citing LT rates even though I asked for ST rates. I should have realized that with her poor English skills she may have misunderstood what I asked. So, really, I should take the blame as I should have known better. Oh well, I was sleep-deprived. Sorry.
I left and walked past Quickie Bar. A girl, sitting on a chair with a sort of cute, brilliant smile caught my attention and I walked over. Getting closer I realized she was different. She was quite short. Had I realized how short she was I doubt I would have gone over, but her smile brightened so much I rationalized that I had never had a really short girl before so it might be interesting. I mean, would she be extra tights? Would she like my nipples as I pounded from on top?? Ahem. She said she had only been doing this for 4 days. She was made up, I think, to look very, very young (which disturbed me al little), but she is actually older, which I noticed later was probably well into her 30's. At least the rates were a more reasonable 350/1000 here and her English was passable. We went upstairs but for the shower she had me shower myself from a big barrel of warm water. I guess she is too short to wash you from a hose! Back on the bed, the performance wasn't all that great. She was fairly vocal and seemed to be getting off, but I just wasn't feeling it – her V didn't feel any tighter than any other woman's, BTW. I didn't bring any lube, but she had a tiny bit in a packet she squeezed out, but it wasn't enough and soon she was going dry. I used some spit but in cowboy mode I could tell she was again drying out. I was using the Aoni condoms which tend to split easily and I was very concerned about her dryness. And sure enough, I suddenly felt things go from feeling like almost nothing to something pleasurable, if a little dry. I had her pull out immediately and sure enough, it had split. Since I really wasn't enjoying the sex that much I welcomed the chance to end it all, getting up and running to the shower to clean up before any bugs might decide to find a new home. I had more condoms with me so that we could have continued, but I was done. Nam is a sweet girl, but I think her size reminded me a little too much of [CodeWord902] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord902) sex (even though she was many years from 17) for my comfort level. Give her a 5 for face, 5 for body and 5 for performance. I remain at mystified why I chose her, other than for novelty. That is not fair to her, as she is a nice woman, but if you get turned on by [CodeWord902] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord902) sex you might love her due to her size and dress despite her true age. But I was freaking out too much to be comfortable.
So after that I decided to find a normal Thai girl with some more heft to her. I found that in Noi at Chili bar. She is far from a spinner, but a girl I would call the girl next door type. She has a real figure but also a few extra pounds I suppose, but was full of personality. I liked her and decided to ask her upstairs, sure the pricing would be standard. Well, I was wrong. 800 BF and 2000 for her!? Again, what the beep! What is going on here? Like Night Wish, Chili bar was the typical rabbit warren to be found on So 6. I can understand some price increases here, as it has been the same for at least 3 years now, but what is up with this 2 x – 3 x price increase? I again declined, she shrugged at my reaction to the price, so I left. I can understand a misunderstanding of pricing once, but twice? Again, in hindsight, I should have asked the mamasan, but I didn't. UPDATE: As of the following Friday morning, I have not returned there to confirm pricing. I may do that today or tomorrow, as I did with Night Wish. I suspect I will find another case of a misunderstanding.
I then left Soi 6 and went to Soi 7 to eat at the Mexican place there as it is Taco Tuesday, then head back to my hotel. As I walked past the front desk the lady asks if I am in room xxx? I am thinking they are going to fine me for leaving some lube stains on my bed sheets! I say "yes". But then she asks if I had exchanged some money? I say "yes" again, but thinking how the heck do they know that? Then she says I may have left my phone there and I should go pick it up. OMG, I did leave my phone there! That may have been why someone was shouting as I walked away, and I ignored it! But I wondered how the exchange booth people were able to track down my hotel? As I was riding the bus back to Soi 6 I figured it out. The Lady, who had been Line calling and texting since she left, had called and the booth people answered, and she told them where I was staying! Had I not got the SIM card that morning I would have had to do a lot of back tracking to find my phone! Sometimes things work out.
I picked up the phone, and wanting to avoid walking back through Soi 6, I flagged down a baht bus. I asked, using gestures, if the bus made the turn around to come back down BR, but the dude blew me away and left me standing. What did I do wrong? I have gotten on buses that have kept going straight or turned to the right, and I simply want to get on a bus that would be coming back down BR. Sigh. So I walked down Soi 6 not really looking at anyone. Really, I should have stopped back at both bars that quoted me high rates to verify, but oh well.
I came back to the hotel and did some searching on TF but there were only a few girls online and none were attractive me. I remembered that I had not checked onto Tender, so I did that, but the reply rate has been low. I rested for an hour then headed back to WS at a bit after 10. Long story short, I ended up at Red Car as it was just starting to get going. I found a table near a girl I had seen before, the one with the glasses that looks a bit nerdy. Eventually we started talking and by 1:30 AM I was bringing her home with me. I am a nerd and so her looking kind of nerdy attracted me to her. I guessed she was early 30's. She had nice legs, a semi-decent figure and nice hair, she had some of the softest skin ever. I had good expectations of her as, while I thought she was cute, knew she needed to work a little hotter than the better looking girls. (Not that, now that I think about it, Red Car has that many hot women. A few, but not that many.) But then I get her home and I see she is more like 40 or more and when she pulled her long hair back, ugh, not so good at all. But to my surprise, she had some fairly firm, above average sized t's. Her personality shines however. She is happy to shower together and doesn't try to hide her body from me. In bed, she asks if I want boom boom then or to wait until morning. I say now. She is a very sweet gal, but the sex is lacking. She started off with a nice, slow BJ that was too short in duration, and later she stuck her clean, shaved pussy in my face and she really started moaning (oh, her name is Mona). It is probably fake as she removes herself and ask for the condom. She had told me that she been gone a month, just getting back and not having sex for a month. She enjoyed being on top, then I rolled her over for missionary. For a while I thought I would come with her. Her V did indeed feel pretty good, but started going dry. But I soon realized that I just wasn't feeling it and I just said the heck with it and faked an O. It was dark so she couldn't see. I pulled out and rushed to the bathroom and pulled it off and wrapped it in tissue, then showered. She spent the night naked in bed. Next mooring we slept until 9:30. I got up and she asked if I wanted sex again and I said it wasn't necessary. She did not seem disappointed. She had told me yesterday she did this to get money to help her mother who was in a bad way. Well, she showed me picture of mother and, indeed, her mother is super sad case. This girl – very smart – went into this business to get the money to try to take care of her mom living in agony, yet somehow Mona keeps a pleasant attitude. No money was asked for, but I gave her 2000. I may have not have painted Mona as being a great provider, but she is funny, caring and worth a look if the age / face doesn't bother you. She asked for my Line and I gave it, though I doubt I will go with her again. Update: She has since written me and asked so share dinner even and sent a picture. I don't think dinner would come with a price, other than the cost of the meal perhaps. The picture is not flattering, but as I said, she is a sweet girl not yet jaded by the business. If you see her at Red Car, don't dismiss her because of my report. You may find her delightful, and I am sure if I did take her to dinner it would be enjoyable, and the sex probably much better.
With a hug she left and I proceeded to work on my reports.
Slowly catching up!
Rained a little this afternoon then was mostly cloudy the rest of the day. The rain certainly did cool things down so it was quite comfortable outside in the evening. I spent time on the reports as I am days behind in posting them. I have been having some muscle-type pains, feeling like my muscles are tight and that I need to stretch out. I therefore decided to go out for a massage, so I walked over to Soi 13/1 hoping to possibly combine a massage with more. I keep hearing that the Soi 13/ x MPs feature FS, but in my one or two times here about the most I could get for less than huge bucks was a HJ, and even that was a rip so I declined.
Anyway, I walked by Supanida Massage and noticed a really cute young girl out front. In a sea of fat old ladies, she really stood out with her tiny body and blond braided hair. I went over to her and chose a full body, aromatic massage in a private room for an hour for 500 B. This girl, Lookme, was super cute with blonde, braided hair, was super slender with a soft voice, unlike so many Thai girls, a good knowledge of English, and was certainly a girl I would love to spend time with. The private room was not dissimilar to the Soi 6 rooms, but with a bed that seemed to simply be a box spring with a fitted sheet and towel on top. Not comfortable at all. I was offered a shower but had to do it on my own. The girl did an ok job with the massage on my back (and thankfully didn't spend a lot of time there as I was more interested in what happened after the flip), and after the flip the massaging with all the oil had my Johnson at full attention. I had been coming off as shy to her, but I made a joke of it with no attempt to hide it, though I made a mock apology. She laughed, and made a comment about if I wanted something else, but after I said "what?" to made sure I understood what she said, she said never mind. She was sensing shyness on my part (guess I overdid it) and when I questioned her she decided to be quiet about possible extras. I suppose I could have specifically asked for a HJ and she would likely have done it, but I didn't, as I don't want a HJ. I can do that myself for free! I figured I would let things proceed and see what happened. She was cute enough I would not mind coming back a few more times to see what might happen. She was cool, and was not fazed by my Johnson sticking up in the air, and was not upset when I told her she was cute. She pretty much ignored my hard body part, but got in enough purely stray touches to keep him interested. I did get to touch her leg, which was awesomely smooth, that she didn't mind. I don't think I got the full hour, but I don't think I ever have at one of these places. There was really nothing great about the massage, only the masseuse! I have no idea how much in the way of extras is available here, or from her. I am pretty sure you can get a HJ from this girl, but no idea if she will do more, or what the costs would be. I do plan to go back very soon.
Speaking of costs and money, here is an update to my money situation. I arrived last Friday afternoon and now it is 5 days later on Wednesday afternoon. I have cashed in $700 and have about 6,600 be remaining. That includes essentially all of my food thus far, including drinks for me and everyone else, and tips, bar fines and girl's fees. So, I am doing well and have plenty to cover my remaining 8-1/2 days, including a trip or two to What's Up if I want an overpriced cutie.
After the massage and financial check, I rested and didn't get to WS until about 10:30. It did not seem quite as busy. I met up with Bell and bought her two drinks at Lighthouse. She is so cute and funny. Really sexy looking in that yellow outfit. I broke away, ate dinner at Subway (who still hasn't fixed their soda fountain for Diet Coke, which is watered down and they know it but don't seem to care to get it fixed). Ended up at What's Up a bit after midnight. BB's friend Noi was dancing but when she saw me she came down to sit with me. I have never seen a girl walk down from the stage to sit with a customer who was not actively bar finding her. But in this case, the bar made bit of money of it. She asked about BB, who is off doing something. She pointed out Wan on the opposite side of the room, who couldn't come over until her set was up. The club was full of hot women and just comfortably full of men. The ratio of hot women to men was quite favorable.
I had bought two drinks for Noi before Wan came over. I see why BB likes Noi. I like her as she reminds me of a less-active Fon from Peppermint fame, and who I have had the semi-hots for 3 years now. (But it looks like I will avoid her this trip. Her body started to go downhill and I am tired of paying several thousand for a star-fish performance.) Noi is a real sweetie and is funny. Wan finally comes over and while I find Noi more attractive, Wan is 7 or so years younger, Noi tells me in encouraging me to BF Wan. She is not a spinner, but has a full body that seems like it will make a good fit for me. She seems to barely be able to speak English though, so I mostly speak with Noi, who translates a little. I buy more drinks and get a little lose with the tips, acting dumb here like I do at Peppermint, but whatever. Eventually, Noi goes back on stage, then a while later so does Wan. Then Noi comes down to me again, seeing I am alone I guess, and prompts me again to BF Wan. She explains the cost: 2000ST BF and 4000ST for the girl or 6000 LT (don't remember the LT BF). LT is probably the better deal, but I have learned to do ST first, so that is what I requested. I actually wanted to BF Noi, but I wanted to first run it by BB, plus Noi said Wan would e upset with her. My bar tab ended up being over 1700, plus I threw out a few hundred in tips to others. Crazy, I know, but I had fun.
Wan got dressed and she looked really cute. We left the bar at about 2:30 AM, which has greatly thinned down. Far more women than men there. Many girls will not get BF's tonight, which may be good for those guys at iBar. They apparently stay open until 4:30. I got a motor taxi for 100 Baht to my Soi 13 hotel. In my room, Wan goes into the bathroom to shower, locking the door. Sigh. She comes out, wrapped in her towel, and I go shower and make myself smell good. She is still wrapped in her towel under the covers when I come out. I try to talk a little with her but she just doesn't speak much English (and I am near 0 at Thai). Best to just go on to the main event, and she is ready to move on as well. I move in for some gentle kissing, and she allows a bit of LFK. She then pulls my face to her T's, which are a good sized, but I can't tell if they are fake or not. They are nice, regardless. I gently caressed her, treating her like a lover to the best that I can. I rub her V and get her wet, then slightly enter my finger, marveling at the wetness and how awesome going bare would be. The light kissing and her rubbing my Johnson brings him to full attention quickly. She asks for the condom too soon. No BJ. 6000 Baht and no BJ. I should complain, but whatever. The condom goes on and she climbs on top, slowly lowering herself on me. She stays in girl-on-top for several minutes. I wonder if she expects me to come that way. I can see how many men would, with that pretty face and nice Ts to look at and hold, and eve with a condom, she is feeling pretty good. But even if I could at that point, I don't want to come so soon, so I roll her over for missionary. She starts to dry out a little so I pull out to add some lube. As I stained my sheets before with lube, I squirted in on over a towel off to the side. Back inside her, it was really feeling good and I think that, after 48 hours, I should be able to come with Wan! I want to try doggie with her, before returning to missionary for the conclusion. We do doggie and it is great. Then back in missionary, I feel she is starting to dry out again so I pull out and as I reach for the lube, she gets up and goes to the bathroom to take a shower! What the beep!? She takes a quickie shower and comes out dressed and ready to leave. I say, in a quiet, almost questing voice, "I haven't come yet!" She probably has no idea what I am saying, she smiles, reaches to me to touch my now limp Johnson and says "bye". I just stand there, with only a condom covering me while the leaves. What the beep happened? 6000 baht for this?
I have already posted this experience to ask for comments. It was quite disappointing to experience. I have to think she had some reason to leave like that, but I can't imagine what. I treat these girls with the greatest of respect. I really liked her and I doubt anyone has ever treated her with more kindness and respect than I did. She showed no signs of any pain, fear or discomfort that I recognize. She gave no indication of anything to cause her to simply run off like that. We certainly had plenty of time left! I may go back to the club and speak with Noi about it. If Wan just simply decide to leave, then I may bring it to the attention of the mamasan. I would think the club doesn't want to employ girls that give them a bad name. OTHO, Wan may have had some legit reason, in her own mind, that I am totally unaware of. If I ever get answers, I will let you guys know.
Anyway, today I had a basic full body massage with no sex for 500 from super cutie with the chance for extras later, and a strange and most dissatisfactory encounter with Wan from What's Up for 2000 BF ad 4000ST for her, plus over 2000 in drinks and tips for a number of people there. Wan had a 8-9 face, 8-9 body and a 3 performance. I will recommend you avoid Wan, but if I find she had some good reason to bolt, I will revisit that recommendation. But kudos to Noi! Awesome girl, though apparently 30 why / o (but doesn't look it).
Slowly catching up!
Rained a little this afternoon then was mostly cloudy the rest of the day. The rain certainly did cool things down so it was quite comfortable outside in the evening. I spent time on the reports as I am days behind in posting them. I have been having some muscle-type pains, feeling like my muscles are tight and that I need to stretch out. I therefore decided to go out for a massage, so I walked over to Soi 13/1 hoping to possibly combine a massage with more. I keep hearing that the Soi 13/ x MPs feature FS, but in my one or two times here about the most I could get for less than huge bucks was a HJ, and even that was a rip so I declined.
Anyway, I walked by Supanida Massage and noticed a really cute young girl out front. In a sea of fat old ladies, she really stood out with her tiny body and blond braided hair. I went over to her and chose a full body, aromatic massage in a private room for an hour for 500 B..Time to weak up.
Gentle Thai are fucking your $ in daily basis.
The girl of 800 bath and 2000st simply double the price and take the difference.
Talk with the mamasan not with the girl for the money.
In a go go never pay in advance the money for the girl.
In pattaya try windmill a go go its 1 k BF for st o LT.
Hi mongers,
I will be visiting Pattaya soon and looking for some nice Thai action (CIS would be better but heard all are rip-offs). I am not much of a bar-fine or walking street guy but mostly interested in Escort agencies which is more discreet and easier to manage.
Can anybody let me know if there are any good Escort agencies in Pattaya that have nice busty CIS girls or cute Thai girls? An indicative idea of budget will help, though I am willing to spend much more for CIS.
Any help will be appreciated.
Thanks.
Hi mongers,
I will be visiting Pattaya soon and looking for some nice Thai action (CIS would be better but heard all are rip-offs). I am not much of a bar-fine or walking street guy but mostly interested in Escort agencies which is more discreet and easier to manage.
Can anybody let me know if there are any good Escort agencies in Pattaya that have nice busty CIS girls or cute Thai girls? An indicative idea of budget will help, though I am willing to spend much more for CIS.
Any help will be appreciated.
Thanks.It's a nonsense to go to pattaya and look for escort agencies.
It is a double nonsense all in all to go to Pattaya and look for CIS themselves.
It is a tiple nonsense to go to Pattaya and look for CIS escorts through an agency.
I understand some people can't decide their destinations but then the shield adjust their desires they can find locally, not from some "exotic" country.
Hirony tells that there is a club in walking street with (over expensive and debatable service) CIS provides and most likely they are the same you might find in some escort site at an even more expensive price.
With no guarantee you get the chemistry from these hardened girls.
Surely not the best ones go to Pattaya.
But they might be right, there is always a market for them, apparently.
Very correct.
It's a nonsense to go to pattaya and look for escort agencies.
It is a double nonsense all in all to go to Pattaya and look for CIS themselves.
It is a triple nonsense to go to Pattaya and look for CIS escorts through an agency.
I understand some people can't decide their destinations but then the shield adjust their desires they can find locally, not from some "exotic" country.
Hirony tells that there is a club in walking street with (over expensive and debatable service) CIS provides and most likely they are the same you might find in some escort site at an even more expensive price.
With no guarantee you get the chemistry from these hardened girls.
Surely not the best ones go to Pattaya.
But they might be right, there is always a market for them, apparently.
Member #4698
04-27-18, 19:04
It's a nonsense to go to pattaya and look for escort agencies. It is a double nonsense all in all to go to Pattaya and look for CIS themselves. It is a tiple nonsense to go to Pattaya and look for CIS escorts through an agency.
But they might be right, there is always a market for them, apparently.Of course, you are absolutely right BMan, but since the OP's chosen nom de guerre is "IAmNuts," he is already indicating he possesses a certain amount of eccentricity.
To IAmNuts10, if you're really interested in CIS girls why not head to Almaty, Kazakhstan. I think you will find an infinitely better CIS selection there. The Emirates is another destination you might find more rewarding for CIS than Thailand.
But what is the big deal with CIS girls? If white girls are what you are after, then go to Germany. The FKK's have plenty of Eastern European white girls for your selection. Prices are fairly reasonable and overall quality and service is pretty good although YMMV from girl to girl.
Pattaya is actually one of the last places to go for this type of girl. Even Jakarta has better alternatives for CIS IMHO. Malioboro Lounge, for example, has a table or two of CIS girls. You won't be overcharged and the girls will perform reasonably well. Your next best bet is Macau in Familia Nobre, but man, most of them look so unappetizing to me. Argh! 555.
Tonight will mark the halfway point of my Pattaya visit. And noon marked the day I switched from the Dynasty to a huge suite at the Flipper House. A large room, if the reservation is made early enough, really isn't that expensive, and I now get a nice computer desk so I don't have to hunch over an ottoman like one has to do in the other rooms here. Here would be great for a three way, as well!
After unpacking I headed to Soi 6 and headed straight for Night Wish to see, for sure, what the pricing structure was. I posted the pricing I had experienced here previously, and some thought I mistakenly asked for LT, which was not the case. But I wanted to find out for myself what happened for sure, and as I previously reported, it was a language misunderstanding. I had actually stated to her the pricing I expected for going upstairs, but she mistakenly replied with LT prices. I don't know that Jen even knew the word "upstairs". It doesn't matter now, all is resolved. With that settled, and with her still a hot girl, so I bought her a LD then we headed upstairs. I can add that now that I had internet access, I used the Google translation app so we could share some information.
But yeah, Jen, at least to me, resembles a model. From behind, the view is breathtaking. Shapely legs and a nice figure had me drooling. Upstairs, she had me give myself a shower, and she took hers separately, which is often not a good sign on Soi 6. I assumed at that point that with her beauty she would be stuck up and give a lousy performance, with the light kissing shown earlier just to have been bait to lure me in. Fortunately, I was wrong!
Seeing her naked, she had small T's but with largish nipples. Her skin was smooth and possibly showing some very light birth marks. Her body was fairly firm, but not super tight, but she was still beautiful. Her face was very beautiful and very model-like. Even if she was a star fish, I would have paid 1000 be for her! But after our showers she climbed onto the bed and quickly started with some touching, and she resumed the LFK. I will spare all the details, but this turned into a GFE (except no BBFS and minimal BBBJ). I swear, as she is trying to get me off, she is trying to get herself off. We did a number of positions and even when I said we could give up, she kept going and going, again maybe trying to please herself. I can't say for sure if she reached the Big 0, but I tried to help her along. We used two condoms along the way, and in switching from the Okomoto. 01's to the Pasante, I felt a huge difference. The Pasante are noticeably thicker and I could really feel the difference. I looked at her at various times during our lovemaking and she had that look of pleasure that can't be faked easily. Her eyes would roll back, her mouth would open a little and let out some moans, etc. No doubt she liked what was happening. She was very GFE and I think she was very surprised with herself by her reaction to me. Something clicked, and for an old man to click like that with a hot woman in her 20's is pretty amazing. Still, for me, it was frustrating to have this hot cutie and see her face exhibiting such pleasure and not be able to come in it. Sigh. We spent over an hour together, and while her English is poor, it was good enough to be able to let me know that she found our experienced surprising, unexpected and enjoyable, with a complement to me about my skills (blush). I tipped her 300 as she went way above and beyond. Heck, I should have tipped her even more! YMMV. I am looking forward to seeing her again.
After I left Jen, I walked by An at Halifax, the girl that reminded me of my sexy girl barber. I let her draw me in and eventually go upstairs. She was also a GFE again. She skipped most of the long, slow BBBJ from last time unfortunately, but she also went above and beyond and I gave her a 200 tip. And this time, I did come! Pretending that she was my barber was sufficient! During the middle of it all we had a scare. A police officer showed up and we were told to stay upstairs. I guess it turned out to be just one officer, so it was not a raid, but she quickly got dressed I was still wearing my condom! He soon left and I was ready to leave, but she wanted to keep going. I am standing naked and she kneels on the floor and blows me, which was hot, and I finished from behind, with her leaning against the wall. The excitement of it all, plus pretending, did it!
After An, I left for dinner at the Mexican place on Soi 7 for their Burrito Thursday special, then worked on my reports, then went out exploring the local area. An older lady at one of the bars on Soi 7 latched on to me and I only went with her as she pointed to a pretty girl to go with. She was cute with a great smile. I sat down with her and bought drinks, and we started touching. Her name was them, and her skin was soft and smooth. English was passable. I thought she was dressed a little weird as she had some padding on both side of her hips inside her shorts, and I wasn't sure if her Ts were big or not due to her fairly conservative dress that hid them. Actually, it was her looking rather innocent that was becoming attractive to me. But I was not quite ready to settle, so I left to walk around for a while, ending up back at the hotel to rest. But close to midnight, I went back out and found them was still there. We went back and set down with her and I brought drinks again. I was getting close to asking her about BFs, when I noticed in the lighting she had a thin mustache line above her lip. That is not exactly abnormal in a girl, but it got me thinking. Naw, this isn't a ladyboy! Can't be. I thought of a recent post I made, along with others, on how to ID a ladyboy. I start to go through several ways to ID LBs. I don't' really notice an Adam's apple. Her hands? Ummm, well, yeah, maybe they are a little bigger than most girl's, and a bit less dainty. And she really isn't talking a lot. That was one of my warning signs, as they usually have a strange voice and thus don't want to talk. And, yeah, she wasn't talking much, though the voice really didn't seem too abnormal. Right? And those pads on her hips! Why would a girl have pads here except to make them have wider-looking hips, and why would an innocent girl want to make her hips wider?? So I asked, are you a real girl? I expected her to laugh and say of course she was but, nope she says no! NOOOOOOOOOOO! I have been halfway making out with a dude! Wow. This is the second time I have some close to BRFing a dude. Had I not noticed that whisker line in the lighting, I would have had a surprise waiting for me at the hotel! I complemented him on her looks, but I only liked girls. He was cool with it all, but wow. He did say the lady that first pulled me in was a real woman, which was quite evident, so I guess this is a bar that hires both, and I am a bit miffed that older lady used him as a girl to draw me in. I don't remember the name of the bar, but I will try to remember to identify it and let you know.
Back at the hotel I made a few more Tinder contacts but felt tired and simply went to bed. So, just one encounter, but an awesome one, with Jen from Night Wish. Caution, I do think YMMV with this one.
Tonight will mark the halfway point of my Pattaya visit. And noon marked the day I switched from the Dynasty to a huge suite at the Flipper House. A large room, if the reservation is made early enough, really isn't that expensive, and I now get a nice computer desk so I don't have to hunch over an ottoman like one has to do in the other rooms here. Here would be great for a three way, as well!
After unpacking I headed to Soi 6 and headed straight for Night Wish to see, for sure, what the pricing structure was. I posted the pricing I had experienced here previously, and some thought I mistakenly asked for LT, which was not the case. But I wanted to find out for myself what happened for sure, and as I previously reported, it was a language misunderstanding. I had actually stated to her the pricing I expected for going upstairs, but she mistakenly replied with LT prices. I don't know that Jen even knew the word "upstairs". It doesn't matter now, all is resolved. With that settled, and with her still a hot girl, so I bought her a LD then we headed upstairs. I can add that now that I had internet access, I used the Google translation app so we could share some information..Try the massage in Soi post office near Royal garden plaza.
Its a good option for the afternoon instead of the beach.
Of course, you are absolutely right BMan, but since the OP's chosen nom de guerre is "IAmNuts," he is already indicating he possesses a certain amount of eccentricity.
To IAmNuts10, if you're really interested in CIS girls why not head to Almaty, Kazakhstan. I think you will find an infinitely better CIS selection there. The Emirates is another destination you might find more rewarding for CIS than Thailand.
But what is the big deal with CIS girls? If white girls are what you are after, then go to Germany. The FKK's have plenty of Eastern European white girls for your selection. Prices are fairly reasonable and overall quality and service is pretty good although YMMV from girl to girl.
Pattaya is actually one of the last places to go for this type of girl. Even Jakarta has better alternatives for CIS IMHO. Malioboro Lounge, for example, has a table or two of CIS girls. You won't be overcharged and the girls will perform reasonably well. Your next best bet is Macau in Familia Nobre, but man, most of them look so unappetizing to me. Argh! 555.OK senior members, completely understand that I was being too wishful. I obviously plan to enjoy with Thai girls but on my last trip to Pattaya (10 yrs back) I had fun with a nice busty Russian girl, hence, I thought I could relive the memories. I have figured out couple of nice Thai girls who I have already booked for 2 evenings. Will post FRs later.
But I figured there is this new concept of 'Soapy Massage' at Honey2 and Rasputin etc. Now in Pattaya. While this sounds like Body to Body to me, does it involve translation into FS or more? Is that part of soapy massage or do I need to discuss it with the girl during / before the Soapy? What is the usual cost of Soapy and how much to bargain for HJ, BJ or FS?
Pardon my ignorance but a newbie like me needs guidance.
Hello guys,
I have been going to Pattaya for the last 7 years and have never spent any time in Bangkok. This year I am thinking about spending few days in Bangkok. Any recommendation if it is even worth the time? I love Soi6, is there any thing comparable to soi6 in BK? Hotel recommendation, any help would be appreciated.
Hi Guys.
It has been bought to my attention that Vesak Day falls on the 29 May this year. It is described as the Holiest if Days! Having planned my trip to avoid Songkran I find this in the middle of my 5 day adventure. I have line contacts of course if needed but what is the extent if this day? Will the bars and gogos be opened?
Thanks Rob.http://www.boomboomme.com/resources/holidays/thailand/
Hello guys,
I have been going to Pattaya for the last 7 years and have never spent any time in Bangkok. This year I am thinking about spending few days in Bangkok. Any recommendation if it is even worth the time? I love Soi6, is there any thing comparable to soi6 in BK? Hotel recommendation, any help would be appreciated.Bangkok is very busy and noisy. It's also spread out. Everyone should try Nana Plaza at least once, LOL. Soi Cowboy is about a mile or two away from Nana Plaza. Soi Cowboy is a mini Walking Street. Nana Plaza is a converted shopping center with three floors of bars. About half the bars there are ladyboy bars though. Hotel recommendation: The Dynasty Grande Hotel is guest friendly, clean rooms and nice pool. It is about a five minute walk to Nana Plaza.
Steve 9696
04-28-18, 19:19
Hello guys,
I have been going to Pattaya for the last 7 years and have never spent any time in Bangkok. This year I am thinking about spending few days in Bangkok. Any recommendation if it is even worth the time? I love Soi6, is there any thing comparable to soi6 in BK? Hotel recommendation, any help would be appreciated.I haven't done the Nana plaza scene but I do love something about the brashness of Soi Cowboy (not everyone does). I highly recommend the Continent (not Continental) if your budget is $100-150 a night. It is a Luxury hotel but literally two blocks from Soi Cowboy. It is tucked in and you'the never know it's there.
Confirmed girl friendly and a great view while getting some head from a hottie!
http://www.boomboomme.com/resources/holidays/thailand/I am all sorted thanks. I have at least 3 girls organised from TF to visit and I will ensure I have drinks on hand.
Thanks to all for your replies.
Golda Meir
04-29-18, 05:56
But I figured there is this new concept of 'Soapy Massage' at Honey2 and Rasputin etc. Now in Pattaya. While this sounds like Body to Body to me, does it involve translation into FS or more? Is that part of soapy massage or do I need to discuss it with the girl during / before the Soapy?Yes, FS included:
http://www.boomboomme.com/thailand/newbie/p4p_venues.htm
BoomBoomDesi
04-29-18, 06:26
Dear all,
I just read a few reports on the net that Thai government have thought of changing Pattaya. Hence lots of raids are happening on walking Street especially gogo bars. The government plans to remove walking Street and replace it with hotels and change the perception for Pattaya as sex friendly location to a very family oriented place. Is this true. Is the police really troubling Gogo bars. Is it still safe for mongering.
Hello guys,
I have been going to Pattaya for the last 7 years and have never spent any time in Bangkok. This year I am thinking about spending few days in Bangkok. Any recommendation if it is even worth the time? I love Soi6, is there any thing comparable to soi6 in BK? Hotel recommendation, any help would be appreciated.http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2677-Bangkok-Reports
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?1029-Bangkok-Hotels
No, there's nothing comparable to soi 6 in BKK.
Banana Boi
04-29-18, 20:12
Hence lots of raids are happening on walking Street especially gogo bars.Which walking street gogo bars have recently been raided? I haven't heard of any.
BoomBoomDesi
04-30-18, 03:53
Which walking street gogo bars have recently been raided? I haven't heard of any.http://www.news.com.au/travel/travel-updates/thai-police-are-continuing-their-crackdown-on-bad-behaviour-in-pattaya/news-story/2e0db04e77d39fd7881c859a2e67f2ff. Read this entire article. There are many more articles on the net.
LittleBigMan
04-30-18, 07:50
Dear all,
I just read a few reports on the net that Thai government have thought of changing Pattaya. Hence lots of raids are happening on walking Street especially gogo bars. The government plans to remove walking Street and replace it with hotels and change the perception for Pattaya as sex friendly location to a very family oriented place. Is this true. Is the police really troubling Gogo bars. Is it still safe for mongering.Interesting? What reports? These thoughts have been circulating for a decade here including the so call casino which I hope never happens in my life time! Over ten years they said they were moving everything to LK metro because of so and so with WS, then recently they said everyone on the water side of WS was encroaching and shouldn't even been there. The powers of the illegal owners and the corrupt government that allowed for these sales and encroachment are just too deep for anyone to do anything not the boys in the brown or so call Army. The Army is so spoiled now finding out how profitable it can be and not going to give up control without a fight? If the place was ever turn into a resort the police or army would go into welfare! Before this ever happens regardless of all the computer drawings what it should look like when and if they ever remove all the buildings on the water side all one would see is a giant sewer. They have no real sanitation system everything just flows in the ocean through a number of pipes buried under the beach. Right now the GoGo bars are doing them a favor providing some scenery?
Is it safe oh yea safe.
Dear all,
I just read a few reports on the net that Thai government have thought of changing Pattaya. Hence lots of raids are happening on walking Street especially gogo bars. The government plans to remove walking Street and replace it with hotels and change the perception for Pattaya as sex friendly location to a very family oriented place. Is this true. Is the police really troubling Gogo bars. Is it still safe for mongering.The Thai govt has said repeatedly on official channels that they do not want to promote sex tourism. However when it comes to implementation they haven't done much. Everybody knows this.
So let's not go overboard and spread rumors like this is the end of the world based on unverified reports.
The Thai govt has said repeatedly on official channels that they do not want to promote sex tourism. However when it comes to implementation they haven't done much. Everybody knows this.
So let's not go overboard and spread rumors like this is the end of the world based on unverified reports.More than a decade.
Tat want make Pattaya not what its now: a shitty beach a shitty sea polluted road etc only reason to come cheap beer and good and hotel.
For the girls not expensive, buy with a drop in quality.
Instead of sex tourist a load of family big spender big money happy to have holiday 10 km near a big seaport and chemical petroleum refinery.
Ten years were big fish at ko lan, now nothing.
Sud Pattaya now its a sort of Muslim land.
And even not mention that of every bath spend in Pattaya how much go directly in the. Pocket of the big brass!
http://www.news.com.au/travel/travel-updates/thai-police-are-continuing-their-crackdown-on-bad-behaviour-in-pattaya/news-story/2e0db04e77d39fd7881c859a2e67f2ff. Read this entire article. There are many more articles on the net.That's story is over a year old. Date says February 2017.
I went to Soi 6 to start things off, intending to go by Chili Bar to speak to Noi to clear up the rate structure. IAs I arrived at the entrance to the street, it started to rain. I did make my way to Chili Bar and asked for Noi, who was inside. I went in to see her, asking if she remembered me, and that I wanted to ask about rates as we may have had a misunderstanding the last time I was there. She stared at me for a few seconds like she had no idea what I was saying, then looked at the boss lady for help. I simply asked her what the rates for short time was she said 300 and 1000, as we expected it to be. That settles matter.
I could have bar fined Noi right then and there, but, frankly, she was not looking all that great, plus in walking to the bar, I ran across a lady I was much more interested in. I thank them for the info, then left and headed back to find the hottie, but the rain was picking up and I forgot which bar she was in. Sigh. With the rain really coming down, I ducked into a convenient bar, which happened to be Candy Bar, to wait it out. I got latched onto by Noon, who was probably amongst the top two most attractive women there, though that is not necessarily saying a whole lot. She was around 30 I suppose, a tad bit overweight but not too bad, and having a figure of a more mature woman with possibly a set of be's. I was not going to BF her, but she was trying hard to get me to, touching me and rubbing me down below. I actually removed her hand a few times and when it looked like the rain was about to stop, was about to pay my bill. But no, the rain then starting pouring, so I was stuck. With it appearing the rain was going to last a while, I thought what the heck and went on to BF her.
She turned out to be good at her job. We started with some touching and kissing then she entered me in cowgirl, which she seemed to greatly enjoy and, over the next 10 minutes or so. She did some hard and fast banging that was starting to hurt, actually, and when she had her O (so she said and so it appeared), she seemed surprised that I did not come too, saying "I came and now it is your turn. " We did missionary and spent a loooong time in doggie. She was getting a little dry and my poor Johnson, having been subjected to several hours of pounding in not always wet conditions over the last few days, was feeling the toll. I did bring some lube with me which I used, helping tremendously, but my Johnson was actually feeling the burn of too much sex. One would think a condom would protect oneself from such problem, like how wearing gloves protects the hands from rough activities, but is doesn't. Maybe the condom material actually contributes to the wear and tear. Sigh. So I gave up and she tried to keep going, but I said it was no use, but certainly not her fault.
We showered and went back downstairs. She stayed with me and I bought her another LD, and maybe after another 30 minutes the rain was light enough that I was able to leave and catch a baht bus back to Soi 7 where the rain had stopped. I went to the Mexican place for the fajitas dinner special, then finally back to the hotel.
I got to WS around 9 I guess. Bell always sees me enter and runs to me, of course expecting some LDs, and I give in as her joy and excitement is welcoming. She was after me to BF to simply go walking with me, but I really don't want non-mongering company. I was tired, and not really sure if I even wanted to get with a girl since, as I said, I was feeling worn out down there and felt I should probably give it a rest. I have read that the average length of time it takes for a man to come is 3 to 5 minutes after intercourse starts. I am going much longer, over 30 minutes, so I guess I am starting to understand while some girls are curious as to why I am not coming after 5. But if a woman's system is designed to produce enough juice to last for just 3 to 5 minutes, no wonder they dry out it!
I was mostly walking around WS aimlessly. I really didn't have a plan. The loud music and smoke of the gogos is not pleasant, which makes me a bit more reluctant to enter them. So the only agogo I entered was Lighthouse. I did go to Red Car, but Mona was there and tied me up. She clearly wanted me to take her, and it would have been nice to be with a warm woman and sleep with here (literally sleep), but I just don't regard her as being that attractive, so why see her again if it will cost me money? So after a half hour I excused myself to leave to go walk around some more, though I actually went home, as I really did need to give my Johnson some rest.
Even so, it wasn't all that late so I thought once I got back to Soi 7 I would go looking and I would BF someone if I found them attractive enough. Well, just as I got off the bus it started raining again. I raced to the hotel and after seeing that the rain was going to continue for a while, I gave up and went to bed. That was the right decision. Unfortunately, I am still being bothered by a feeling of tightness in my legs and I actually had a tough time falling asleep due to the discomfort. Maybe I should try to buy some muscle relaxant pills.
So Friday was a downer day with the rain and with only one encounter, Noon, at Candy Bar.
I do want to comment on a strange practice I witnessed at Lighthouse. Three girls were totally naked near the entrance, then with the lead girl holding incense and a second girls carrying a small bowl water, they walked around the club chanting, with the water being sprinkled around. I asked that the heck was this, and Bell indicated, basically, they were calling upon the gods or whatever to bring in customers. I said they should go stand outside naked! But after they went around the room 3 times, one of girls – still naked – stood at the entrance and exposed her rear to the outside. Funny. There were a couple of really attractive girls here, I should add. Not sure of the rates here, but you might want to check the place out.
Banana Boi
05-01-18, 14:58
I do want to comment on a strange practice I witnessed at Lighthouse. Three girls were totally naked near the entrance, then with the lead girl holding incense and a second girls carrying a small bowl water, they walked around the club chanting, with the water being sprinkled around. I asked that the heck was this, and Bell indicated, basically, they were calling upon the gods or whatever to bring in customers. I said they should go stand outside naked! But after they went around the room 3 times, one of girls still naked stood at the entrance and exposed her rear to the outside. Funny. There were a couple of really attractive girls here, I should add. Not sure of the rates here, but you might want to check the place out.Common nightly activity in many gogo bars.
Lighthouse is one of those bars that can be average most nights but some nights there are definitely 2 or 3 top end girls working. Couple are my friends from other gogo bars who followed mamasan to lighthouse.
Mr Enternational
05-01-18, 16:42
I asked that the heck was this, and Bell indicated, basically, they were calling upon the gods or whatever to bring in customers. I said they should go stand outside naked!I guess your way would have brought more blessing than they could have stood. They only needed half a blessing that night.
Unfortunately, I am still being bothered by a feeling of tightness in my legs and I actually had a tough time falling asleep due to the discomfort. Maybe I should try to buy some muscle relaxant pills.Take one of those liquid Ibuprofen (400 mg dose) that all the pharmacy's sell right before you go to sleep, it will help relieve the stress in the muscles so they can unwind and heal. Helps with all the aches except for the angry girlfriend aches, for that you'll need to visit a hardware store.
Another part of excellent interview with Pattaya prostitute https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYV7yz2OrZw.
Take one of those liquid Ibuprofen (400 mg dose) that all the pharmacy's sell right before you go to sleep, it will help relieve the stress in the muscles so they can unwind and heal. Helps with all the aches except for the angry girlfriend aches, for that you'll need to visit a hardware store.Regular ibuprofen tablets were not helpful. I may give liquid pills a try, but at least the muscle relaxants did the trick, although hopping onto a motorbike nearly killed me! Might be a hip joint issue. The joy of getting old! Thanks for the advice!
I did not sleep well and it rained the entire morning and most of the afternoon. I was also suffering a bit from tenseness in my legs probably due to an existing condition I have that has suddenly magnified, so I mostly stayed in bed watching TV or napping, until finally deciding to go to the pharmacy to see if they had a muscle relaxant. They did, with no doctor's prescription necessary, and within a few hours much of the tightness and pain were relieved.
I did get a message from a Tender girl offering to come over for sex for 1000 plus 100 for her taxi. Her picture showed a really hot, tight body but with too many tattoos, but there was not a good view of her face. I was thinking of calling her over, but with the rain cleared out, I decided to instead go to Soi 6. I think I am getting too comfortable with this street!
It was dark, and I was having a difficult time finding a girl who appealed to me. Finally on my third pass though I found Cowpuk (or maybe Cowpook) at Bull Dog bar. She was really cute, great little body and really cute face and legs. Early 20's. The English was passable and I was dying to get into that hot little body, so I bar fined her, 1000 for her and 350 for the bar. The rooms upstairs seemed have had a slight makeover and the room I was in had a decent toilet and shower. Not the best, but pretty good for Soi 6. She got out the towels and started undressing and revealed what sure looked like a no-baby body with small, but nice, boobs. I had feared she might not be a good performer due to her top looks and our age difference, but she was not shy and her smiles were comforting. However, no shower was offered so we started out sitting on the edge of the bed. We touched and did some kissing, then she stood in front of me and we held each other and did more kissing. I sucked on her boobs and rubbed her all over, including the outside of her V, feeling it become wet.
I was hoping for her to get down on her knees for a nice BJ, but instead she reached for the condom and put it on me, then facing me, she slid herself down on me, me still sitting on the edge of the bed. She seemed to enjoy the position and loved it when I licked her boobs. Light kissing was not a problem. Her V is nice, her skin is nice, figure is nice and she has a lovely smile that she often flashed to make me think she is enjoyed it all. I mean, this is not just a blank smile, but has depth to it with the expression in her eyes to match. Very sexy. After a good while I rolled her over for some missionary, followed by doggie, and the smiles and her looks she shows are of utter enjoyment. She really seemed to enjoy doggie by her thrusts and bucks and moans. After 10 minutes or so she started to dry out and the feelings decreased, so I reached for the lube I brought, and the relative wonderful feelings were restored. I turned her back over to missionary, added some more lube, and pounded away. I continued to love looking at her face but -- it was so very hot, but with these condoms, I just can't come. The story of my Pattaya life. I finally give up. She has me take a shower alone, and while I she is taking hers as I get dressed, I wonder if I want to tip her. No BJ and no shower, so she failed to provide some of the basics, so I decided not to. However, when I give her the 1000, she looked at me and asked "No tip?" Ok, she is cute, and she was fun, so I gave her 100. Sigh. Very rare will one of the girls asks for a tip, but she is a nice girl, very nice body, pretty good in the sex department and who seemed to really like it all, so I guess she did deserve a small tip. I would consider seeing her again, though Jen would be my first choice. YMMV and you might get a shower and BJ from her, but she was a hot girl and worth considering.
From Soi 6 I headed to WS, perhaps stopping off at my hotel, I don't remember. I walked around a bit then decided to go back to What's Up. Noi was right by the door when I entered and jumped up to say Hi. I indicated I would like for her to sit with me, and we headed to the far left (west) part of the bar where the girls get topless and give shows. Noi asked why I hadn't been there for two days, asking / joking if I was exhausted from Wan (e. G the girl who bolted on me). I said no and that I was upset with her. I didn't say much more, but was a little miffed when she brought Wan over a bit later, who sits down in between us. I guess Wan wasn't upset at me. I smile but say little, leaning past her to speak to Noi. They soon leave to dance, but later Noi said Wan wondered why I wasn't speaking to her. I tried to better explain it, but it is so loud in the place it was hard to communicate. Wan come back, and I was certainly civil to her, and I do end up buying several drinks. She is certainly not mad at me and apparently confused at my relative coldness. I forget the context, but I did ask her why she ran off, but she either couldn't hear or understand the question. Eventually, she stayed away and I hung only with Noi.
I did, again, spend too much time and money here, but part of that was to stay in the bar as we got one heck of a show by a large group of crazy Chinese gals and guys. One of the girls, upon coming in, headed for the girl show area where I was sitting, and she started feeling the huge breasts of one of the dancers. After a while, it became clear this girl like girls, and the dancing girls had her up on stage, laying down on the furniture and were simulating sex and feeling her own boobs up. The reaction of the Chinese girl was insane! She loved it and looked like she was in one continuous orgasm. Later, she had her own boobs out to get rubbed and sucked on by the ladies. Noi talked to her and confirmed she is lesbian. But yeah, all of them were crazy but well behaved and appeared to buy lots of beer, including food. So I hung out for an extra hour just to see what would happened, haha.
I think Noi did ask Wan about what happened and she started to tell me something when the Chinese girl exposed herself, so the conversation stopped and, after right after that, the DJ turned the volume up even more and a conversation with my old ears was just too difficult. Heck, when Noi went back to dance, I inserted a pair of those foam hearing protectors in my ears, which at least toned down the higher, piercing frequencies. I may go back to the club in the early hours before the sound levels match a jet engine and ask her what Wan said, but really, it doesn't matter. My conscious is clear by knowing I did nothing to hurt her, and I would not consider going with her regardless.
After that, I left and Bell caught me. I bought her two LDs, but cut off after that. She was her usual crazy self. If I had not already BF her and saw that the performance doesn't match the personality, I might BF her now. But I won't, and she seems happy to simply flirt, as am I.
I came back to Soi 7, walked around to see if I might happen to find an attractive lady at this hour of 2 AM, but nothing. I note the muscles relaxer have worked well and has not left me too loose to walk! It has generally been a relaxing day and my Johnson is feeling better from the relative rest. Time to sleep!
Was supposed to have rained much of the day, but not a drop as of 6:30 PM. I did hit Soi 6 a bit before 3 PM. This time, I quickly found a girl I liked at Saigon Bar, which is one of the first bars to the left you will find entering Soi 6 off of Second Rd. I tend to pay less attention to bars on this side of the road, though I have had a couple of good encounters (as well as being attacked by LBs). The girl that attracted me was named Nam. Slender, 21, nice smile, nice body. Pricing was 300/1000. She could carry on a very basic conversation, and said she had worked for a restaurant in Bangkok, which was having problems so a friend in Pattaya called her down, so she is a hooker now. I now forget how long she has been in Pattaya, but it was not more than a week or so. We went upstairs and I was pleased with her body. Small but shapely boobs that were nice to the touch. She may have been overweight by a pound or two, and I believe she was a mommie, though it was difficult to tell with just a tiny little bit of extra weight in the waist area. But really, she was a cutie and her smile was special. She gave a decent shower and in bed, started off with an awesome BBBJ. I sometimes think the newbies do the best at this (other than the mature women), as they still do it like they would have done for their boyfriends. IDK. But she was really good and kept it up for a good long while. Then the condom went on and she climbed on top and had her way with me. She really did seem to enjoy it, rolling her eyes back then looking at me in a very sexy way and giving a big, genuine smile. It reminded me of Cowpuk, but even better. Most of her movement in cowgirl was more of a grinding motion, rather than up and down, which indicated she was trying to maximize her own pleasure, which is nice to witness. We switched to missionary for a while, then to doggie, where she moaned and bucked. I tried really hard to release, but realized it just wasn't going to happen. I switched to missionary for a little while then pulled out, sighing and giving up, again. Sorry guys.
But she refused to let me stop. And really, for the next 20 minutes, she tried HJ, BJ and a combination of both. She said "I came twice and you haven't come at all. " Yep, sorry. She wanted to know why. I told her, I just can't seem to come in a condom, except every 3 or 4 days, but I could come in 20 seconds going bare. She did not entertain any notion of going bare, but she worked her butt off to try to get that release. I finally had to hold her hands and tell her that it was starting to hurt. She still refused to stop, and I had to pull her away three times before she finally gave up! Talk about effort! She was very sad even though I assured her it was not her fault. We then showered and she really did seem depressed and told me she was sorry. I laughed and said, yes, it was frustrating to be with a hot woman and not be able to come with her, but that it was ok. I tipped her an extra 200 for going above and beyond what was expected.
It was then after 4 PM and I had wanted to back to the massage girl Lookme on Soi 13/1. Hopping on a bus for the trip, I got off at Soi 13/1 and walked by the place but didn't see her. A lady there jumped up and tried to get me, but I said I was looking for Lookme. The girl said she was inside and took me inside to see her. She was happy to see me (duh, I have money), and we went upstairs for a repeat massage. I will skip to the better part where after the flip, where I had managed to remain from getting a hard on, she simply asked me if I wanted her to go further. I said yes, then she said she could do HJ, BJ or FS. I said FS. Man, I wanted this tight, toned little spinner! She asked how much I would give her, and we ultimately settled for 2000. Yes, that was too much, especially for what I got, but I found her to be hot and thought I would certainly be able to come with her. She stripped down and this girl did not have an ounce of extra fat on her. Boobs were nearly non-existent, but she had one heck of a tight, tiny body.
But she was not a good provider. She lied down next to me and I caressed her body. She wasn't much into kissing and though she let me rub her V, and I was able to witness her getting wet, but FIV was discouraged. Too soon, and before I was fully hard, she put on a condom and climbed aboard. So no BJ. Sigh. I should have stopped her until I was at full attention, but I didn't. She started off as Nam had done, grinding on me, but this doesn't offer much stimulation for me, so my already weak erection was not enhanced. She was actually surprised that I didn't come within a few minutes (she later told me she orgasmed at this time.) I rolled her over for missionary. I was still only partly hard and barely got myself inside her, but managed to get mostly hard before switching to doggie. That was a great position to see her cute body and we got into a grove. But I just wasn't feeling much, so I switched back to missionary, but that wasn't working either so I just gave up. I pulled and rolled onto my back, and she asked what was wrong. I explained but she had no sympathy and told me to go take a shower. She joined me for the shower and helped wash me at least. When we stepped out to dry she asked me again why I couldn't come, saying that she had come and was sad I didn't. I am a little surprised that she came, but I guess if and when it happened, it was during her grinding.
Though I thought she was really hot, I can see why some of you might not fully agree. In trying to be fair, I guess I would give her face a 7, body 9 and performance 5. It is just how everything goes together and my own fantasies that I find her so hot. I think that had we slowed down and I started off fully hard it might have worked. I should have stopped her early on to take some extra time. But while I was happy to get FS from her, one can certainly get much better value on Soi 6 so I can't really recommend her. Nice girl, but compared to girls like Nam and Jen who really try, Lookme just can't compare.
Next, I went to eat a late lunch then came to hotel to write it all up before I forgot. I just didn't feel like going out that evening, so that was the last of my mongering for the day. To summarize the day, I saw Nam at Saigon and Lookme at that massage place I first mention a few days ago.
Regular ibuprofen tablets were not helpful. I may give liquid pills a try, but at least the muscle relaxants did the trick, although hopping onto a motorbike nearly killed me! Might be a hip joint issue. The joy of getting old! Thanks for the advice!Taking a motorbike in Thailand might have killed you anyway.
So at your age you need muscle relaxants to keep your two big legs supple and vitamine V to keep your little 'leg' stiff. Oh well.
LittleBigMan
05-02-18, 13:49
Regular ibuprofen tablets were not helpful. I may give liquid pills a try, but at least the muscle relaxants did the trick, although hopping onto a motorbike nearly killed me! Might be a hip joint issue. The joy of getting old! Thanks for the advice!Is this something that only happens when you travel by air on long flights? Might be something larger than old age?
Member #4591
05-02-18, 17:51
Spent the weekend in Pattaya and it was a bloody mess. It rained half the time and the other times, Walking Street was just a mess. It was also full of guys in their 20's crazy ass partying and being drunk in the streets picking fights. Spent most of my time in Soi Bukow and LK Metro. Soi Bukow has some very interesting little bars, especially near the end closest to walking street. I spent a couple of nice evenings chilling and drinking in a few of these small bars and found a couple of diamonds in the ruff. Cost was 2,000 LT for each with a 300 Baht bar fine. Just to let everyone know, you can have a lot of fun in this city by staying away from the craziness of Walking Street. Cheers.
Taking a motorbike in Thailand might have killed you anyway.
So at your age you need muscle relaxants to keep your two big legs supple and vitamine V to keep your little 'leg' stiff. Oh well.That made me laugh! Thanks!
Is this something that only happens when you travel by air on long flights? Might be something larger than old age?What I am talking about is different, having nothing to do with old age. But for sure, on long flights, one needs to get up and move around periodically.
Went to Soi 6 at about 2:30 PM. Normally I need to walk all the way down the street then come back, and maybe make another pass, to find a suitable girl. Not this time. I had mentioned that Night Wish seems to have the best women at this time, and walking by I saw a very hot girl who stopped me dead in my tracks. Her name was Dada, a striking young spinner with awesome legs, really cute figure and a super lovely face. We got off to a slow start downstairs, with her actually leaving me after delivering my drink. Well, this stinks. But I keep looking at her and when she returned my gaze I motioned to her asking if she wanted a drink. She seemed surprised and came back over, got the drink, and then sat with me. We talked a little – she had been there a year. I guess her age at 21 or 22. She had a beautiful face and smile. I am a few days writing this report about her so I have forgotten the details of Dada, but she was another wonderful performer. I am actually surprised at the relative high level of the Soi 6 girls I have chosen.
Went to WS at about 9:30 PM. Bell was not out, so I guess she is either inside or she has the day off. The forecast said it might start raining after 1 AM. It started to sprinkle around 10 and came down pretty good for a while for maybe 30 minutes before letting up. I ducked into the ice cream place across from Frog Bar before it started, and sat there enjoying it all. The heavy rain didn't last too long, but it continued to sprinkle past 1:30 AM. The heavy rain cleared out a lot of people, but as it ended a good number of them came back. I guess around midnight I went to Red Car, which was still pretty bare. I found a table and chair, sat down and ordered a Coke Light. It wasn't too much longer when a lady came over and sat the table next to me and ordered a beer. She looked to be about 30, was in jeans, possibly with largish breasts but not much of a figure otherwise. There was a younger guy at a third table on the other side of her. I presumed she was looking for a guy and figured the younger man would be who she would flirt with. He made no move on her, though. She occasionally glanced at both of us, and one time she when she looked over at me she had a sad look on her face so used my fingers give myself a smile and said to her "smile". That broke the ice and she smiled back, then shortly thereafter motioned for me to come sit next to her. We talked about some things but it was a little difficult for me to hear and understand, but apparently she is in town for a few days to get "customers". She wasted no time in asking me if I wanted to go with her. Well, ok. She was darker skinned and had a rougher look to her than most of the other women I see here. She had just ordered a second beer and when done she asked if I was ready to leave. Sure. She had a motor bike so we left to go get it. My age / joints showed some age when hopping onto the bike! It was hard to get my legs up to fit on the footrests! I am not feeling the muscle tightness right now, so this is probably more of a joint problem with the hips. Sigh. Getting old is not for the weak!
Leaving the club she stopped to buy a kabob. I offered to pay but she said no. At the hotel we entered and she sat down near the entrance. I said she needed to come in to give her ID, and she said, "Oh, ok. " However, all she had was a low-res picture of a driver's license on phone, thus the hotel would not let her in. I think I could have snuck her in, but the fact she had no real ID was worrisome to me. Plus, to be honest, I was not feeling all that horny. She wanted to go to a ST hotel, as she said she wanted to have sex with me. Well, yeah, sure she does. She had since told me she was 25 (which I came to believe) - and an alleged 25 year old can't wait to have sex with a sexagenarian! I said no, I didn't want to do that, but I offered her money as I sensed some desperation in her voice and I was impressed that she insisted on buying her own kabob. So, softy me, I offered her some money. She refused my money, again saying she wanted boom boom and repeating there was a 200ST hotel nearby – we could go there, have sex, then she would bring be back. But I continued to refuse to do that, at which point she took the money somewhat reluctantly. She took my Line and indicated she was still going to try to see me later, then she left. I have no idea what she will do, or what her real story is or if I will ever see her again. My guess is that she will hightail it back to Red Car and try to get someone else. She does seem like a basically good girl with some problems, but good people who are desperate can do bad things.
So, today was pretty slow, but with me seeing the beautiful Dada at Night Wish.
Lack of quality sleep led me to take a nap early this afternoon. I tried to get a TF girl I had talked to for a month to come over, but nothing. Another girl, after over a month of talking and avoid my question of what she did, finally admitted to working at a massage place and that she did boom boom. She was working at the moment and I asked her to let me know when she was available, but she never did. I am giving up with TF. Not saying TF is a waste, but it has been for me, though a big part of that is because I have been passive about it. I actually find it easier to simply go to Soi 6 where I can see the girls and interview them.
I headed to Soi 6 around 3:30. It had been cloudy, so it and the rains led to a quite comfortable evening. Upon arriving, I wasted little time and found Aor at Sexy in the City. Her face caught my attention. I have normally gone for the spinner-types, but Aor was a bit larger in build. Not fat, but with more heft. I was really impressed by her skin, with was near flawless and super smooth. The session was not bad. She gave a really good BBBJ and performed well during sex. I had told her up-front about my "problem" and she did about all she could without going overboard. When I gave up, we laid next to each other just touching, which was nice. She was 29 and very sincere. Face is an 7-8 I guess, body a 6-7 overall and performance a good solid 7. I think the BF was 400, with 1000 for the girl. The upstairs of the bar was not so great. There was a mildew smell and the room was quite small but with a tiny attached toilet / shower. They did, however, have really nice towels!
After leaving I stepped into Ruby bar after being smiled at by the young Gay (not sure of the actual spelling). She was a taller girl with a full body, so again hardly a spinner but with a nice body. I guess I am experimenting with slightly larger girls now. She had a cute face and seemed young. I found out she was two days short of turning 22. She did have a baby 2 years ago and her BF deserted her a year ago. She has only been to Pattaya for 5 days, and while the girls often lie about this, I came to believe her. Thus, I will be amongst one of her first customers. I asked when she hoped to go back home and she said she needed money first. I felt sad for her, but then the money I would give would help to support her son.
I have said before that newbies can be like a GF, as they only know how to have BF sex. But they can also be star fish, scared to be having sex with random strangers who may or may not treat them well. She was the latter, unfortunately. I had my doubts as we were talking, but I went ahead by asking her upstairs. 300 and 1000. She had me shower alone, and kept her towel wrapped around after she had her shower and came to lie down. And she just laid there with her eyes closed. I touched her but she was practically motionless. That continued for a while and part of me just wanted to end things right there. But, she was in the business and we had an agreement, and as long as she was not resisting me, I decided to continue ahead to see if she would finally allow me in. I did try to get something going and rubbed her V to try to get her wet, with limited success, and finally she reached for a condom. She wanted to use her own condom and not mine. Her's were a Durex. She put it on me, but as I then entered her in missionary, I couldn't feel a thing. She just laid there, eyes closed, adding to the disappointment. I started thrusting and she moan a little, but frankly, I could not tell if they were moans of pleasure or pain. I knew she was not very wet and was concerned I was hurting her. I asked but she gave no reply.
I pulled out to feel for wetness and the condom was dry, so I assumed she might have felt some pain from the dryness. I thought of using some lube I brought, but really, what was the use? I could have switched condoms too, but what for? I wasn't going to come and the girl was not suddenly going to get excited, so why continue on? So after a just a couple of minutes, I ended it. She seemed a little surprised and asked if I had come. Duh, no, but I was nice and didn't complain, just shrugging my shoulders. I think she knew the reason I was suddenly ending, but she was glad it was over and happy to hop in the shower, alone. It would be curious to see how this girl will be in a few months, if she even lasts that long. Sigh. I am disappointed, and I am recommending you guys to avoid her, but I feel sorry for her. Here is another really nice girl who feels she has to enter this profession, in part due to a Thai man who deserted her and their child. So sad. A 7 for face, 7 for body and 2 for performance.
Went to dinner and am to meet with the girl I met last night at my hotel at 8 PM, whose name is Mai. I guess she has her ID now, though who knows how legit it really is! She does seem like a nice girl and has, not yet anyway, seemed to be trying to use me in any way. I suppose we will spend the rest of the evening and night together. She had wanted to meet up with me early in the afternoon, but I put her off. I don't want to be with her for too long nor have her interfere with my Soi 6 activities. I have 3 nights left in Pattaya, and I am way behind on the number of ladies I was hoping to see, but since I have not been conducting marathon sex sessions today, the old Johnson is feeling good.
Mai did show up and passed security, calling from the hotel to ask my room number. I went down to get her and she was in tears. She can speak English OK, but the pronunciation is difficult for me to understand, but for some reason the police took her motorbike. She wanted me to go with her to the police station. She said she had the money and seemed to say she could have paid the cop and got the bike released to her, but she didn't want to do that, preferring to go to the station. I ended up going with her and ended up simply watching her pay the fine or whatever. We then walked back to the hotel while she rode the bike back. In my room she gave me a bit of a sob story about her life as she released her frustrations. Really, poor girl, with an uncaring mother that she now is stuck taking care of, with a young sister, forcing her to enter prostitution. This is a girl that hates her work, feels stuck and trapped, but does what she feels she has to do. If not for her sister, she says she would take a regular job, or even move to a foreign country to get out of Thailand. She later related that some old men wanted to marry her but she didn't want to marry an 70 why / o who was going to die on her and who she would have to immediately take care of. She hates Thai men. Very sad. I was just trying to listen. She was semi-attractive and deserving of a better life, but there are thousands like her, unfortunately.
She later asked if I wanted sex with her. She halfway called me a ladyboy as, I guess, I was not pushing for sex with her. But she said so many men "just want sex, sex, sex". I laughed and said "Sure", proving I was not gay I guess, so we took a shower and had sex. She surprised me with a remarkably nice set of boobs. I have to assume they are fake, but if so, quite well done. I greatly enjoyed rubbing those firm, sized see's, for sure -- probably the best I have seen on a Pattaya girl. With the condom on she climbed on top, with some bucking and moaning, I felt her skin forming a ton of goose bumps as she moaned, then she climbed off and said she had her orgasm, and asked why didn't I come!? I am only considering she is telling the truth only due to the goosebumps – something I seen before on a woman when she climaxed. But IDK.
We did missionary and doggie and she felt pretty good – no signs of her being a mommie – but after a few minutes I realized I would not be able to come, so I gave up sooner that I might otherwise. She was young, but had a rough face and lacking in pure sexiness. She was there to give sex, and while pleasant it, only her breasts were a turn-on, and that just wasn't enough for me. We laid facing each other and talked some more. I had given her a long massage earlier, and she asked me why I was so nice. She had said how I need to marry her and take her to the US, but not to worry in that she would work and I wouldn't have to take care of her. I believe her! She seems to really want to work, but with her expenses she has too hook she feels. I think my supposed kindness made an impression on her, but she said she needed to leave to go to meet a customer. She clearly hates her job but feels trapped by her responsibilities to a mother I think she hates, and for her love for her sister. She did say I could call her if I wanted to go somewhere during the day, that she would take me on her bike. She left, but I doubt I will see her again. Maybe 7 for face, 7-8 for body (due to breasts) and 5 for performance. You might find her at Red Car, but I have no idea otherwise. Curious girl. I can note in the meantime she has texted me on Line and is being both sweet yet cautious. I need to be careful to not give this girl any hope of she and I. I can't say if her apparent affection is genuine our just a game. The skeptical part of me would think it is an act, but IDK.
After she left I went to WS. Again Bell was not there. Skipping to the interesting stuff, I went to Red Car again, finding a table next to an attractive, but middle aged woman. To condense of lot of stuff, her name is One, she is 45, and in town for the month to make money, though she comes down periodically, as well has having several foreign gentlemen friends she sees. Her face is a little weird, with her lower jaw jutting out just a tad, but she was dressed nicely, had decent English, and acted mature. After hanging for a while I eventually asked her to go with me and she agreed. We left RC at about 2 AM. Back at the hotel, we showered separately, but after we joined up in bed, it became an awesome GFE. The BBBJ was awesome – a 10 out of 10. She was slow, deep, and just incredible. Everything was incredible (but no bare FS). FIV was allowed and I was flabbergasted to learn later she had multiple children.
I won't go into all the details, but she was amongst the best ever. She certainly wanted to please, and I was so comfortable with her she is one of a just a few Pattaya ladies I went down on. We didn't cease to go to sleep until 4 AM. We awoke the next day a 8 AM and went down for breakfast. She came back up me and we talked for an hour or so before she left. If you are middle aged or appear to be under 65, and are in Pattaya and are a good person, you may wish to check her out at RC during May. I can't give too many details to help you find her, but you can look for a woman with frizzy hair pulled behind her, light-toned skin, possibly wearing a semi-formal long dress, a slightly jutting out lower jaw, and of course would answer to the name of One. She won't go with just anyone – if you ask her to stand up so you can see her ass, you will get rejected, as some other dude found out. Be respectful and you may be greeted with an equally awesome experience. She wants to please, but you have to be deserving of her special skills.
DrifterMan
05-03-18, 14:05
I was in Pattaya in Dec / Jan over the New Year period and was drinking one night at Papagayo. I was there for a while and got a bit drunk drinking beers and shots. I was staying at the Baraquda and it was only short walk away. I remember settling my bar tab and slowly walked (a bit wobbly) back to my hotel. When I stepped inside my hotel I felt a tap over my shoulder. It was one of the mature barmaids that was serving drinks behind the bar. She ask whether I was OK and I nodded and she left. Went back the next evening to thank and tip her. She told me she was worried about me walking and falling over. The mamasan also inquired about my well being. LOL. Can't remember how much I spent.
Mai has been in contact and wanted to come over. I invited her to join me for dinner, which she did, then we went for a walk on the beach, then she wanted to go to the donut shop at the Central Festival She paid for them herself, which would be for her mother and sister. Came to the hotel and took a nap until about 9 PM after I gave her a massage. She was going to give me one, she said, but my massage for her put her nearly to sleep, so I got nothing. Haha. We got up and she left. I am not really sure what she is wanting from me. She is not looking for sex from me apparently. It is more like she likes me for being decent to her, but I really don't know if she is trying to get me to like her so I will marry her or fund her of what. Don't worry guys. She is way too young and she doesn't have that quality I would need to do anything so foolish.
I decided to go to WS. Again, there was no Bell at Lighthouse, and I asked to see where she was and was told she would be back Thursday. I guess won't be seeing her again, but that is fine. I went to What Up's to see if Noi was there, but she was off too. I don't know that I would have bar fined her, but she is fun and it would have been nice to hang with her for a short while. I then went to Red Car at close to 12 AM and picked a table to sit down at. I decided I wanted to see One again. While waiting to see if she would arrive, I noted that the disco seems to be attracting more younger women which is good, to include younger men, though there were still plenty of older men and women. I saw a couple of attractive women who I thought I might go after if One did not arrive. But right after midnight I saw her. She walked by, we smiled, and I called her over to sit next to me. I did not know if she wanted to spend time with me again, and she later told me she didn't know if I wanted to see her or if I was looking for another lady, but when I motioned her over, she was happy.
We talked for a while and I let her know early that I was interested in taking her with me, and would she want to do that. She did. I can note that one of the things she had told me previously was that the girls hate it when a guy spends lots of time with them and then just leaves. Think of it – you invest a few hours on a guy expecting to later get paid, then after he has a good time he just leaves you. It may be too late to find another dude, or the remaining dudes left for you to consider are the losers. I happen to give money to girls I spend time with as it least partially compensates for their time and the enjoyment I derive from hanging with them. Anyway, we left at about 1 AM and she was equally awesome in bed. The next morning, after breakfast, we talked more. This is a lady who would like to get married again, but only to a man who treats her well and devotes some time. She really isn't after money other than what she needs, talking about some girls who have 5 different sponsors and are making 100,000 baht a month while still free lancing for more! And another tidbit I will add, which many of you know, is that if you see a Thai woman in Red Car, she is there to FL. Some of the girls will go with almost any dude, but many will be a little picky. She says she tends to reject younger men, preferring those near her age up to maybe 65. And if the man is rude, she will reject him. It is upsetting that many men treat them as objects to be used, and by being respectful and gentlemanly, you will tend to get better service.
Mai wanted to see me again but, like yesterday, I really don't want to have sex with her. She did come over in the early evening, planning to hit WS for customers. She was dressed up a bit, and started talking. It is too bad I could barely understand her, as she related that she started having sex with strangers at age 15, and had men beat her and do bad things, plus saying much more I had to piece together to figure out what she was actually saying. She said she was a good girl but has been made to be bad. Sad, but what can I do? It made me a little guilty for having had sex with her, and I asked her about it, but she said I was ok as I was kind with her and wasn't making demands. She said many men, as soon as they get to the hotel, start yelling at her to take a shower and start the sex. She said I had been slow and talked to her, and she appreciated that, and that I was not demanding sex from her. And I guess now she feels I am safe to be with be, but I really can't understand her well enough to know what she really hopes to get from me. It seems she would like for me to take care of her, and she will take care of me back. I reminded her I was nearly 40 years older than her! I do think part of her likes me, and perhaps due to that she thinks there is good money in it for her. She does want to have her own business, but lacks the startup money, but certainly wants to be out of the business within 5 years. But I don't really know. And as I have no desire to have her with me, you guys don't have to worry. But she is a sad sorry willing to talk about her life, who I have found interesting.
Anyway, this has been my last full day, Thursday, and it has been mongering free. My Thai GF has been sending me texts and pictures of all the things she is doing to get ready for meeting me in the morning, thinking I just let the US, where in fact I have been a few hundred miles away from her banging mostly younger girls for fun prior to seeing her.
I may later write up a trip summary, but for now, I saw fewer ladies than I expected to see; I only saw one agogo girl; I had some awesome experiences with several Soi 6 girls; and with increasing age and / or guilt or whatever, my ability to come continues to go downhill which is quite frustrating. I note that in past trips to Pattaya, after even 10 days, I was ready to leave, but that has not been the case this time. That is I have been fine with my time here and that may be due to me being more relaxed and not trying to have 2 to 5 girls each day. But, I am ready to see my Thai GF and see if it is time to move the relation forward or not. Though I probably will return to Pattaya again, my conviction for doing so is a bit less than last time. How things go with the GF will have an impact, but I am getting older and the desires and drive and abilities are clearly in decline. I think I hope to be able to come back a few more times, but all good things must come to pass.
Dear All,
Incidentally, I will be traveling BKK for couple of days for business, and wish to go Pataya for couple of nights. I am not a frequent of Pataya, remember just visit there once via Suvarnabhumi airpor via bell travel Van. I wonder should I go back to airport to take the Van as before or I can go straight from my hotel in BKK?
This time I plan to go Pataya than staying all four nights in BKK as I think Bar soi nana & soi cowboy seems to be much highier expenses than in Pataya, but I can't remember of quality varies or worth for going all the way to Pataya just for about 2 or 3 nights?
Hope to hear your valued advises from Thailand veterans over if it worth for me to spend 2-3 nights in Pattaya than BKK, in terms of girls qualities. Economically wise & of coarse attitudes and services rendered from girls between these two areas?
I have been a staying BKK In some occasion but mainly focus on Beirgarten ladies since I feel agogo girls in NEP likely to be more of attitude specially I am not a young nice good looking guys than any western man nor Jap guys that known for paying good price that allure these bar girls than anyone of us. Not to initiate any racial dispute but this seems to be planted in the mind of Bar girls specially those young nice looking one at NEP that tense to opted serving Japanese man than other nationality.
Since Pattaya may be due to more high competition, so much wonder if this will make those bar girls there more of non selective as to their counterparts in BKK I. E. NEP or soi cowboy area?
Cheers,
MD.
Dear All,
Incidentally, I will be traveling BKK for couple of days for business, and wish to go Pataya for couple of nights. I am not a frequent of Pataya, remember just visit there once via Suvarnabhumi airpor via bell travel Van. I wonder should I go back to airport to take the Van as before or I can go straight from my hotel in BKK?
This time I plan to go Pataya than staying all four nights in BKK as I think Bar soi nana & soi cowboy seems to be much highier expenses than in Pataya, but I can't remember of quality varies or worth for going all the way to Pataya just for about 2 or 3 nights?
Hope to hear your valued advises from Thailand veterans over if it worth for me to spend 2-3 nights in Pattaya than BKK, in terms of girls qualities. Economically wise & of coarse attitudes and services rendered from girls between these two areas?
I have been a staying BKK In some occasion but mainly focus on Beirgarten ladies since I feel agogo girls in NEP likely to be more of attitude specially I am not a young nice good looking guys than any western man nor Jap guys that known for paying good price that allure these bar girls than anyone of us. Not to initiate any racial dispute but this seems to be planted in the mind of Bar girls specially those young nice looking one at NEP that tense to opted serving Japanese man than other nationality.
Since Pattaya may be due to more high competition, so much wonder if this will make those bar girls there more of non selective as to their counterparts in BKK I. E. NEP or soi cowboy area?
Cheers,
MD.Plenty of Taxi options twking you to Pattaya from Bangkok city for 1500 b. Tolls included.
Plenty of Taxi options twking you to Pattaya from Bangkok city for 1500 b. Tolls included.Mr T Taxi service Airport to Pattaya 1000. Don't know how much from City?
Mr Enternational
05-04-18, 04:35
I will be traveling BKK for couple of days for business, and wish to go Pataya for couple of nights. I am not a frequent of Pataya, remember just visit there once via Suvarnabhumi airpor via bell travel Van. I wonder should I go back to airport to take the Van as before or I can go straight from my hotel in BKK?Bell also picks up in vans from hotels in Bangkok. It then goes to the Bangkok office where you get on the bus to the Pattaya office. I did it once from Pattaya to Nana and said never again. It was at least 3 hours. Could have been partly to do with the traffic though. Don't really remember because it was years ago. But it was too damn long for me. I recommend going to Ekamai station and taking a bus from there.
Bell also picks up in vans from hotels in Bangkok. It then goes to the Bangkok office where you get on the bus to the Pattaya office. I did it once from Pattaya to Nana and said never again. It was at least 3 hours. Could have been partly to do with the traffic though. Don't really remember because it was years ago. But it was too damn long for me. I recommend going to Ekamai station and taking a bus from there.Was that three hours from your Bangkok hotel to your Pattaya hotel, door to door, including the travel time to the Bell Bangkok office and from the Bell Pattaya office?
If so, I don't know if taking a bus at Ekkamai would shorten that total travel time much if at all. I usually take a bus at Ekkamai, start the journey at my apartment in lower Sukhumvit and can't remember it ever taking significantly less than 3 hours to finally arrive at the Walking Street area or nearby Pattaya hotels. That is assuming you time your arrival at Ekkamai bus station just right before the next bus departs and you are holding a ticket for that one. Maybe 2 hours and 45 minutes was my shortest travel time, Bangkok apartment door to Pattaya hotel door, on a very low traffic day.
Remember, you've still got that travel time on baht bus, motorcycle taxi or regular taxi from the bus station in Pattaya to the usual hotel locations near Walking Street. And if Bell by passes much of the travel time to and from bus stations in Bangkok and Pattaya, it could be an overall shorter trip than taking a bus from Ekkamai station.
Remember, you've still got that travel time on baht bus, motorcycle taxi or regular taxi from the bus station in Pattaya to the usual hotel locations near Walking Street. And if Bell by passes much of the travel time to and from bus stations in Bangkok and Pattaya, it could be an overall shorter trip than taking a bus from Ekkamai station.I used the Ekkemai to Pattaya bus station option and return the last few trips and found it very good for the times of day that I chose. I usually leave by 10 AM and there is only a few minutes to wait for the next bus (frequency is every 20-30 minutes depending on time of day). You cannot pre-book and turn up at the ticket counter and get a seat on the next bus available. Friends have had to wait for over an hour at busy times (after holidays, Songkran time, etc). Cost was 108 Baht in April each way.
I travel light and get a mototaxi when I arrive in Pattaya bus station for100 Baht to my chosen hotel (Jomtien would be more). If you have luggage you can get a shared Bahtbus (50 Baht) to most hotels in the Central area, or get a taxi at higher prices (nobody seems to use the meter in Pattaya).
Coming back to BKK I usually get off at Udom Suk and hop on the BTS for the last leg to my hotel in Asok or Nana areas. Saves some time in the Sukhumvit traffic and avoids the scrum for taxis on arrival at Ekkemai. They usually have a couple of stops before Ekkemai, you can tell the lady conductor on the bus before you leave.
Hey FL Hawk,
I have been reading all your reports, Great job BTW. Thank you.
Is it safe to say that Just because the women is a 7, 8, 9 or 10 that doesn't mean the performance will be stellar? Probably common sense but that's one thing I get from reading your reports.
Also I have a problem with condoms and don't complete a lot of the times. You have e any tips for this? I have gone BB when offered, not much, but I use Crown and Trogan 40% bars in and they both still give me problems. I know its mental.
Mai has been in contact and wanted to come over. I invited her to join me for dinner, which she did, then we went for a walk on the beach, then she wanted to go to the donut shop at the Central Festival She paid for them herself, which would be for her mother and sister. Came to the hotel and took a nap until about 9 PM after I gave her a massage. She was going to give me one, she said, but my massage for her put her nearly to sleep, so I got nothing. Haha. We got up and she left. I am not really sure what she is wanting from me. She is not looking for sex from me apparently. It is more like she likes me for being decent to her, but I really don't know if she is trying to get me to like her so I will marry her or fund her of what. Don't worry guys. She is way too young and she doesn't have that quality I would need to do anything so foolish.
I decided to go to WS. Again, there was no Bell at Lighthouse, and I asked to see where she was and was told she would be back Thursday. I guess won't be seeing her again, but that is fine. I went to What Up's to see if Noi was there, but she was off too. I don't know that I would have bar fined her, but she is fun and it would have been nice to hang with her for a short while. I then went to Red Car at close to 12 AM and picked a table to sit down at. I decided I wanted to see One again..
I travel light and get a mototaxi when I arrive in Pattaya bus station for100 Baht to my chosen hotel (Jomtien would be more). If you have luggage you can get a shared Bahtbus (50 Baht) to most hotels in the Central area, or get a taxi at higher prices (nobody seems to use the meter in Pattaya).Can't you just take the regular songthaew for 10 baht? Or 20 baht if you have to change songthaews?
IF your hotel is near the regular songthaew route, you can cross the street and hop on a songthaew on its regular route. I did that several years ago. But now, I pay extra for the private taxi.
Mr Enternational
05-05-18, 01:35
Can't you just take the regular songthaew for 10 baht? Or 20 baht if you have to change songthaews?
IF your hotel is near the regular songthaew route, you can cross the street and hop on a songthaew on its regular route. I did that several years ago. But now, I pay extra for the private taxi.LOL. I thought I was a cheap mf. Even I am willing to pay an extra 30 baht to go directly by the crib instead of lugging bags from baht bus to baht bus.
Can't you just take the regular songthaew for 10 baht? Or 20 baht if you have to change songthaews?
IF your hotel is near the regular songthaew route, you can cross the street and hop on a songthaew on its regular route. I did that several years ago. But now, I pay extra for the private taxi.I actually walked to my hotel from Sukumvit to 2nd Road. Should've taken the overpriced 300 b baht bus which is when I realized how much trouble taking the bus really is especially when the real savings is about 500 baht when you account for travel to from bus stop on both ends plus the additional HR of travel time.
After spending a few
10. General impression.
Phuket feels more clean and nice than Pattaya. Phuket also gives a more funny vibe than Pattaya. And the invironment with all the beautiful beaches and the green forest mountains surrounding Patong is a much more relaxing and beautiful place for a holiday than Pattaya. Pattaya-Phuket: 5-8.Have happened to come across this piece of discussion comparison between Phuket & Pattaya, but here comes my wish to have veteran brothers in Pattaya & Bangkok to tell me how is yours comments or comparison between Bangkok & Pattaya. Considering taking out anything about beaches, just only purely mongering & Same Thai pussy!
Herewith I listed some criteria for distinction:
1) quality of the girls.
2) quantity of the girls.
3) Bar fine cost for ST & LT.
4) girl cost for ST & LT.
5) quality & safeties of Hotel rooms.
6) chances of meeting non pro freelancers not only out for money may be just for companion.
Due to the distance getting to Pattaya and back to Bangkok when departing Thailand, There should be some areas of distinction between Bangkok and Pattaya or else why traveling to Pattaya if you only after same Thai pussy be it hot or average Thai girls.
Hope to hear more from you guys.
Cheers,
MD.
Have happened to come across this piece of discussion comparison between Phuket & Pattaya, but here comes my wish to have veteran brothers in Pattaya & Bangkok to tell me how is yours comments or comparison between Bangkok & Pattaya.Dude, this has been discussed MANY MANY times already in both the Bangkok thread and this Pattaya thread. I know it can be hard sometimes to find good information but it's simply a matter of investing some time in it. Just go back 10 pages or something like that and start reading. And if you can't find what you're looking for then go back 15 pages, etcetera.
Member #4591
05-05-18, 10:01
Have happened to come across this piece of discussion comparison between Phuket & Pattaya, but here comes my wish to have veteran brothers in Pattaya & Bangkok to tell me how is yours comments or comparison between Bangkok & Pattaya. Considering taking out anything about beaches, just only purely mongering & Same Thai pussy!
Herewith I listed some criteria for distinction:
1) quality of the girls.
2) quantity of the girls.
3) Bar fine cost for ST & LT.
4) girl cost for ST & LT.
5) quality & safeties of Hotel rooms..
Dude, this has been discussed MANY MANY times already in both the Bangkok thread and this Pattaya thread. I know it can be hard sometimes to find good information but it's simply a matter of investing some time in it. Just go back 10 pages or something like that and start reading. And if you can't find what you're looking for then go back 15 pages, etcetera.Better yet, use the bloody search function. It is a wonderful tool.
Better yet, use the bloody search function. It is a wonderful tool.I agree, but quite often it's difficult to find the right word(s) to search for or it's too general and you get too many hits. Nevertheless it can be useful sometimes.
Dude, this has been discussed MANY MANY times already in both the Bangkok thread and this Pattaya thread. I know it can be hard sometimes to find good information but it's simply a matter of investing some time in it. Just go back 10 pages or something like that and start reading. And if you can't find what you're looking for then go back 15 pages, etcetera.Already back page to page 15, still searching.
Thanks.
Already back page to page 15, still searching.
Thanks.Macho the.
I enjoyed my first holiday to Thailand in February and found 95% of what I wanted to know from reading the forum. I went back to almost 50 pages and read all of the post. The information is there but it takes a commitment to find it. By doing thorough research I had a great time. Read some more.
Macho the.
I enjoyed my first holiday to Thailand in February and found 95% of what I wanted to know from reading the forum. I went back to almost 50 pages and read all of the post. The information is there but it takes a commitment to find it. By doing thorough research I had a great time. Read some more.Already read back page 65 pages. Yes , there is a lot of info gather and I research but will much appreciate of some update interaction. Anyway, i also enjoy a lot of places thru simply reading but sometimes we may miss along the line and good if anyone give opinion and thanks to those how don't .
Cheers,
MD
Already read back page 65 pages. Yes , there is a lot of info gather and I research but will much appreciate of some update interaction.65 pages back (in this thread) is January 2018, so that's only 4 months ago. That info is not outdated most of the time. What are you still looking for?
Mr T Taxi service Airport to Pattaya 1000. Don't know how much from City?1200,but after a couple of hiccups I am not using mr t. Anymore.
Have happened to come across this piece of discussion comparison between Phuket & Pattaya, but here comes my wish to have veteran brothers in Pattaya & Bangkok to tell me how is yours comments or comparison between Bangkok & Pattaya. Considering taking out anything about beaches, just only purely mongering & Same Thai pussy!
Herewith I listed some criteria for distinction:
1) quality of the girls.
2) quantity of the girls.
3) Bar fine cost for ST & LT.
4) girl cost for ST & LT.
5) quality & safeties of Hotel rooms.
6) chances of meeting non pro freelancers not only out for money may be just for companion.
Due to the distance getting to Pattaya and back to Bangkok when departing Thailand, There should be some areas of distinction between Bangkok and Pattaya or else why traveling to Pattaya if you only after same Thai pussy be it hot or average Thai girls.
Hope to hear more from you guys.
Cheers,
MD.Phuket doesn't compare to Pattaya or Bangkok, skip it.
Mr Enternational
05-05-18, 17:26
Phuket doesn't compare to Pattaya or Bangkok, skip it.8 years ago when I was moving to Pattaya, I first stopped in Phuket to do some scuba diving. It was no place that I had to go back to. Last December I had some buddies come to Pattaya from UAE and I decided to take the trip to Phuket with them. I should have passed on that!
For some reason whenever I meet someone that wants to go to Thailand they always mention going to Phuket. I ask why Phuket. They never know. Maybe it was in a movie or something. I think a lot of people that mention Phuket also want to see Koh Phi Phi too for some reason.
Some guys may take the wife there for a family outing. Some guys meet a chick they click with in BKK or Patts and bring her along. Phuket is not the best choice for the solo / single monger But if you have a Thai GF you can bring along that will make the trip better since its good for families. Of course bringing a lady along means double the expenses and less play time if you run into a local lady you fancy. Plus you may not see PKT walking street in all its glory.
For some reason whenever I meet someone that wants to go to Thailand they always mention going to Phuket. I ask why Phuket. They never know. Maybe it was in a movie or something. I think a lot of people that mention Phuket also want to see Koh Phi Phi too for some reason.Guilty as charged. Back in 2003, I saw the movie "The Beach" and I was awestruck on how Ko Phi Phi looked. My primary choice was Japan but, seeing how Thailand looked and how cheap it was, Japan had to be put on the back burner for a bit. 2005 was my 1st trip to Phuket during the Vegetarian Festival and it was weird. I'm in no rush to return. Ended up going to Cape Panwa, Phuket Town, and Patong.
Phuket is a good place to go if you want to take some martial arts classes or lose some weight. They have world class training places for not a lot of money. The area I was in was a street full of gyms, muay thai and bjj training.
Mr Enternational
05-05-18, 21:35
Some guys may take the wife there for a family outing. Some guys meet a chick they click with in BKK or Patts and bring her along. Phuket is not the best choice for the solo / single monger But if you have a Thai GF you can bring along that will make the trip better since its good for families.But there are way better choices such as Koh Lanta and Koh Samui.
Some guys may take the wife there for a family outing. Some guys meet a chick they click with in BKK or Patts and bring her along. Phuket is not the best choice for the solo / single monger But if you have a Thai GF you can bring along that will make the trip better since its good for families. Of course bringing a lady along means double the expenses and less play time if you run into a local lady you fancy. Plus you may not see PKT walking street in all its glory.
Guilty as charged. Back in 2003, I saw the movie "The Beach" and I was awestruck on how Ko Phi Phi looked. My primary choice was Japan but, seeing how Thailand looked and how cheap it was, Japan had to be put on the back burner for a bit. 2005 was my 1st trip to Phuket during the Vegetarian Festival and it was weird. I'm in no rush to return. Ended up going to Cape Panwa, Phuket Town, and Patong.
Phuket is a good place to go if you want to take some martial arts classes or lose some weight. They have world class training places for not a lot of money. The area I was in was a street full of gyms, muay thai and bjj training.
Phuket doesn't compare to Pattaya or Bangkok, skip it.Thanks for your kind comments but I am trying to compare between Bangkok vs Pattaya.
Thanks for your kind comments but I am trying to compare between Bangkok vs Pattaya.Let me me jump on the bandwagon. FWIW, take a look at my post #41366 in Bkk Reports.
Thanks for your kind comments but I am trying to compare between Bangkok vs Pattaya.Then go there and report back. This is the Pattaya thread, keep Phuket out of the discussion. Spamming the board in two threads is not the way it works here.
Let me me jump on the bandwagon. FWIW, take a look at my post #41366 in Bkk Reports.Thanks Pal for a very informative advises! Surely a very encouraging words.
Will be spending 2 - 3 nights in Pattaya after my business meeting in Bangkok.
This is the list of my plan:
1) while in Bangkok, will visit couple of those soapiesin Rachada.
2) will take cab from my hotel in BKK to Pattaya, expecting to arrived on the afternoon.
3) still choosing between LK Empress or Flipper house for my accommodation. LK empress seems nice and much higher price but I think Flipper house is closer to Soi 6 (my main target for afternoon ST).
4) as mentioned I will definitely try those bars in Soi 6 , as per my research it's cost 300-350 for BF & 1000 for girls for ST.
But still confuse how much BF & for girls is I opted to take them for LT? Some say BF 1000 and cost for girls between 2000-3000 for LT?
5) will try one or two agogo girls from bars in WS, but yet to find out how much is BF and Girls, I also encounter some post that cost is between 2000 for BF & 5000 to 6000 for LT?
6) for Freelancers at BR, cost I learned is 500 to 700? But I am a bit worry as to the sanitation issue maybe Deseases HIV? That is why I never try freelancer in front of Nana hotel in BKK their cost there is 1000 bhat for one shot!
Well, trying soapies in Pattaya is not in my agenda as I have not had any good encounter on their massage before but I like what I got in BKK.
Cheers,
MD.
Then go there and report back. This is the Pattaya thread, keep Phuket out of the discussion. Spamming the board in two threads is not the way it works here.I wonder if someone here is acting as the admin of the thread? Stop using some commanding words! I am not spamming this thread just for your kind informations, read first. When did I mix Phuket here? So funny man!
Thanks Pal for a very informative advises! Surely a very encouraging words.
Will be spending 2 - 3 nights in Pattaya after my business meeting in Bangkok.
This is the list of my plan:
1) while in Bangkok, will visit couple of those soapiesin Rachada.
2) will take cab from my hotel in BKK to Pattaya, expecting to arrived on the afternoon.
3) still choosing between LK Empress or Flipper house for my accommodation. LK empress seems nice and much higher price but I think Flipper house is closer to Soi 6 (my main target for afternoon ST).
4) as mentioned I will definitely try those bars in Soi 6 , as per my research it's cost 300-350 for BF & 1000 for girls for ST.
But still confuse how much BF & for girls is I opted to take them for LT? Some say BF 1000 and cost for girls between 2000-3000 for LT?
5) will try one or two agogo girls from bars in WS, but yet to find out how much is BF and Girls, I also encounter some post that cost is between 2000 for BF & 5000 to 6000 for LT?
6) for Freelancers at BR, cost I learned is 500 to 700? But I am a bit worry as to the sanitation issue maybe Deseases HIV? That is why I never try freelancer in front of Nana hotel in BKK their cost there is 1000 bhat for one shot!
Well, trying soapies in Pattaya is not in my agenda as I have not had any good encounter on their massage before but I like what I got in BKK.
Cheers,
MD.AnonMous' post #41366 in the Bangkok Reports thread covers the abundance of in-your-face presence and availability of girls and the more densely compact logistics advantage that Pattaya has over Bangkok very well I think.
But, imo, Bangkok has a much greater advantage over Pattaya in terms of the girls' looks and quality of service they are either capable of or interested and willing to provide. So much so I can't muster much interest in bothering to make the journey from Bangkok to Pattaya anymore unless a friend who is really into Pattaya for whatever reason wants me to meet him there and I truly have no other plans at the moment.
However, it sounds like your Bangkok experiences will be confined to the soapies. And on that type of venue comparison between Bangkok and Pattaya I can't say either has an advantage over the other since I am not a fan of that kind of place anywhere I have tried them, including Bangkok and Pattaya.
My fave Pattaya disco had a high male to female ratio tonight. A lot of girls have day jobs / boyfriends who supplement them which makes them more inclined to party and get drunk rather than seek customers. After drinking all night they are too tired and drunk for dual sack time. The hotties have cliques which inhibits connections. It seems a lot of girls are not hurting for baht even though it is low season. The quality of girls have took a nose dive the past 2 years. The girls seem to be more picky and selective this Spring. BKK can be more expensive. Pattaya is full of working / party girls. I'm middle aged so that party late every night vibe does not work for me. It seems Pattaya would be a terrible place to get a serious relationship.
AnonMous' post #41366 in the Bangkok Reports thread covers the abundance of in-your-face presence and availability of girls and the more densely compact logistics advantage that Pattaya has over Bangkok very well I think.
But, imo, Bangkok has a much greater advantage over Pattaya in terms of the girls' looks and quality of service they are either capable of or interested and willing to provide. So much so I can't muster much interest in bothering to make the journey from Bangkok to Pattaya anymore unless a friend who is really into Pattaya for whatever reason wants me to meet him there and I truly have no other plans at the moment.
However, it sounds like your Bangkok experiences will be confined to the soapies. And on that type of venue comparison between Bangkok and Pattaya I can't say either has an advantage over the other since I am not a fan of that kind of place anywhere I have tried them, including Bangkok and Pattaya.Thanks Pal for a wonderful feedback!
I am in fact a frequent of Bangkok but only once to Pattaya way back 10 or 12 years ago, that is why I am trying to weight between the two. Last time I stay in Pattaya I stay in Penthouse hotel and have BF some Cayote or waitresses on the bar downstairs. At that time the BF and girls price is lot cheaper than BKK.
In BKK aside from soapies in Rachada or girls from biergarten, I really don't have much luck for Agogo girls, I remember only couple of time I BF rainbow 4 girls and couple of time from a bar I forget the name in Soi cowboy.
My last trip to Bangkok last year, find out they are now charging enormous amount for BF and girls asking 6000 bhat for LT. That is why for money wise, may be Pattaya will put weight BKK economically?
As to quality, well, with my frequent at Rainbow 4 bar in NEP BKK, I can see some talent even though not so old but been dancing there for years and I can see the changes of their body figure as compare the first time I saw them dancing there.
I am not a young monger but wish to try at least the ST bar in Soi 6 in Pattaya. This kind of thing in BKK may be charging 2000 to 2500 for the girls but I don't know how much For the BF, may be 700 or more?
Well, happy to hear more comment from all veteran both BKK & Pattaya as thing keep changing now a days. How I miss the past LOS entertainment industry before. Talent are so dedicated with their profession, unlike now a days, unless they like you for being young & handsome or else they are too business minded with adding too pushy of the waitresses on drinks etc.
Cheers,
MD.
3) still choosing between LK Empress or Flipper house for my accommodation. LK empress seems nice and much higher price but I think Flipper house is closer to Soi 6 (my main target for afternoon ST).
4) as mentioned I will definitely try those bars in Soi 6 , as per my research it's cost 300-350 for BF & 1000 for girls for ST.
6) for Freelancers at BR, cost I learned is 500 to 700? But I am a bit worry as to the sanitation issue maybe Deseases HIV? That is why I never try freelancer in front of Nana hotel in BKK their cost there is 1000 bhat for one shot!
MD.3) If you are walking to Soi 6 then Flipper House is closer, but you can just take a songthaew for 10 baht, which will get you to Soi 6 quickly from whichever hotel you choose.
4) Soi 6 chicks are the best value deal going around. They are usually quite young and with much better bodies than anything on Beach Road, especially in the tits area.
6) If you take safe sex precautions then there is nothing to worry about. I have taken over 100 Beach Road freelancers and never once caught anything. Yeah, probably some had HIV, some may have had gonnorhea, and some may have had herpes. Who knows? If you use a condom, don't do BBBJ, and wash your tackle with soap and water in the shower immediately after the event, then you are close to 100% never going to catch anything.
As for BR pricing, if you want anything half decent on Beach Road then all the lookers (of which there are not very many) will want 1000 baht ST. Maybe in low season the price will drop 100 baht or so. For 500 to 700 baht you will be mostly banging skanks. Short-assed little chubbies with legs like tree trunks. Is that what you came all the way to Pattaya for? I suggest you pay up for the 1000 baht chicks on BR, or just go to Soi 6 and pay up for their overpriced rooms. But note, the chick price there of 1000 baht is excellent.
As for Phuket versus Pattaya. I went one time to Patong (and more than 20 times to Patts). Everything in Patong was priced double that of Pattaya. Really pissed me off. Though the beach there I thought was quite magnificent. Pattaya rules for mongering and pricing.
3) If you are walking to Soi 6 then Flipper House is closer, but you can just take a songthaew for 10 baht, which will get you to Soi 6 quickly from whichever hotel you choose.
4) Soi 6 chicks are the best value deal going around. They are usually quite young and with much better bodies than anything on Beach Road, especially in the tits area.
6) If you take safe sex precautions then there is nothing to worry about. I have taken over 100 Beach Road freelancers and never once caught anything. Yeah, probably some had HIV, some may have had gonnorhea, and some may have had herpes. Who knows? If you use a condom, don't do BBBJ, and wash your tackle with soap and water in the shower immediately after the event, then you are close to 100% never going to catch anything.
As for BR pricing, if you want anything half decent on Beach Road then all the lookers (of which there are not very many) will want 1000 baht ST. Maybe in low season the price will drop 100 baht or so. For 500 to 700 baht you will be mostly banging skanks. Short-assed little chubbies with legs like tree trunks. Is that what you came all the way to Pattaya for? I suggest you pay up for the 1000 baht chicks on BR, or just go to Soi 6 and pay up for their overpriced rooms. But note, the chick price there of 1000 baht is excellent.
As for Phuket versus Pattaya. I went one time to Patong (and more than 20 times to Patts). Everything in Patong was priced double that of Pattaya. Really pissed me off. Though the beach there I thought was quite magnificent. Pattaya rules for mongering and pricing.Thanks Pal for the info.
Definitely will not bang any short leg Chabby whatever. If the on going price for ST BR freelancer is 1000 bht then I go for it.
You mentioned over priced room on Soi 6 bar? I thought they charged 300-350 bht for BF or other than this? Kindly elaborate please.
How about LT for Soi 6 girls or Agogo Bar girls in WS? Any info on their BF & for the Girls?
Lastly, I am not comparing between Phuket with Pattaya but I am checking comparison bet Bangkok from Pattaya.
Cheers,
MD.
Christian G
05-06-18, 13:39
4) as mentioned I will definitely try those bars in Soi 6 , as per my research it's cost 300-350 for BF & 1000 for girls for ST.
But still confuse how much BF & for girls is I opted to take them for LT? Some say BF 1000 and cost for girls between 2000-3000 for LT?.I already wrote many times that all Nightwish Group bars now charge 400 baht for the ST room! Other bar ask 300-350 baht, some bars (like Scooter) not have ST rooms.
For LT price you have to walk in the bar and ask! Not all bar have same price for BF and also the BF price change according to time you want to barfine the girl, also talk directly with girl for her LT fee not all girls are the same.
Soi 6 it's probably the easiest place in the world to get laid. Walk up and down the soi, check the girls and interview them, don't be shy there is nothing that they do not have already heard from a customer.
Mr Enternational
05-06-18, 14:35
You mentioned over priced room on Soi 6 bar? I thought they charged 300-350 bht for BF or other than this? Kindly elaborate please.Well seeing that you can get a room somewhere for 500 baht/day. Actually rooms where I live rent for 500 but get cheaper by the month and even cheaper when you have a longer lease like I have. But geez. The bar is in business to make money. 300 baht for a room ain't covering much overhead.
You have been to Pattaya before. Why are you researching it as if it is a new venture for you? Nothing changed but the people and the prices and names of some of the places.
Soi 6 it's probably the easiest place in the world to get laid.Yeah you are right about that. One time I was returning from shopping at BigC North Pattaya, and I decided to take a detour down Soi 6 for a bit of a look. Just before I exited to 2nd Road, one of the chicks in a bar shouted out to me "Hey, cum fuck me"!
If I wasn't carrying a big tub of yoghurt that I needed to put in my fridge straight away I may have done just that.
... But still confuse how much BF & for girls is I opted to take them for LT? Some say BF 1000 and cost for girls between 2000-3000 for LT?
5) will try one or two agogo girls from bars in WS, but yet to find out how much is BF and Girls, I also encounter some post that cost is between 2000 for BF & 5000 to 6000 for LT?
MD.I'm very experienced with the Pattaya scene, but honestly. I don't like to contribute too much on here because most guys on here really don't share anything but "stories about their conquests" without sharing true intel. What sucks is that most guys don't even mention a girl's name, what she looks like, where to find her, or her dance number (most important) in case another member wants to hook up with that girl. Then they have nerve to call it a field report. Almost all of the girls dancing at the Go Go bars have numbers, yet only a few ISG members ever share that info. What's up with that? You seem very lost, so I'll help you out a bit with some advice about the Go Go bars. Different bars vary with barfine prices so nothing is set in stone. It can be 800 - 2000. For the girls, it's whatever they want, but usually 3000ST - 5000 LT. If they like you, it maybe less. If they don't, then it may be more. However, be wary of the many hustles when it comes to these girls. I've included a few below.
1. I'm going to hustle you for drinks to make my commission and salary game. Most Go Go bar girls in Pattaya often work 10 day contracts in Pattaya. In those 10 days, if they get 45 drinks from customers, they will receive 10,000 baht. Models will get even more. So for some girls, who really don't like men (yes most are lesbians and have tomboys), there may not be need to go with a customer for sex. Now the bigger issue is with regards to the stunners or the hotter girls are those damn drinks. The other night, I sat at Palace with another buddy and watched over and over as guys get rejected or played by dancers for drinks. Basically, they will sit and order drinks while having no intention doing anything but get your hopes up and give you blue balls. By the way, if you ask them how may drink tickets they have had tonight and how many they need to make their quota, they will probably ask you "how you know?" Also, they will know you have been advised, may ditch you, and think you are hip to the drinks game.
2. I'm just an average looking girl, but you maybe you can't tell because you are a foreigner. This one starts with a smile at you by an average looking girl and she probably knows it. You think she is sexy and hot because your eyes focus on just her and you haven't surveillance the entire club full of girls. It's like a witch's spell. Top girls in each club don't need to approach customers or smile at them when they are dancing. They let their looks do all the talking and persuading. Getting the average girl and thinking they are attractive, always ends up happening more often outside of a guy's race. An Japanese guy mongering for the first time in Europe usually has the same poor judgement as a Westerner mongering in in Asian country. They are poor judges of beauty for that culture. So the point is, TRY to get a stunner, hot girl, or the top girl in the club. Avoid the rest, unless you get desperate.
3. I'm going to make you pay me for a shitty experience because you are just another customer and I have others in line. Even if it's poor service, non GFE that she gives, you will be able to do nothing about it. This usually happens when all the money is collected upfront and given to the mamasan. Then the girl only want to go to the "upstairs room" or a nearby short time room and the girl turns off the A / see in the room. She will complain about how she is cold, but really It means she wants you to get hot and tired quickly. From then it's just be be downhill. 1 minute CBJ, her on top 1 minute and you will do the rest of the work, as she complain about your "size. ' No kissing. And if you don't finish quickly, she will * This type really doesn't give a shit, because she can get another customer again easily the next day.
4. The "I'm going to be your Thai girlfriend game. " This usually starts out by barfining the same girl consecutively for whatever reason. You become "her" customer for that club. Hands off too other girls. It is followed with some "I love you" and then "please sponsor me and my poor family by sending me money. " You are just a fucking idiot, if it's gotten to this point. You are a john and they are prostitutes. You came to this country full of sexy hot women willing to fuck for money and you got stuck with one. How the hell did that happen that you are paying for her family's washer and dryer, some furniture, and maybe even a house? Here's some news: True love doesn't require money. See what happens when there is no money. No money, no honey. Those who reach this point are hopeless. I don't shed a tear for your dumbasses.
5. The "bar gang bang hustle. " Intro to friends so that can make drinks even when your girl is not there. This means, I'm going to swap you out after I get drinks from you with a friend or two. And we are going to take you all for your drinks. These girls approach customers in groups or usually work in tandem. You sit and drink with an average looking girl because she smiled at you. After a few drinks, your senses kick in and you realize she is kind of ugly. She already knew that was going to happen by reading the looks on your face. And after she milks you for a drink or two, she point at the stage suggesting ladies that are cuter than she. She will bring her more cuter friend over. She will introduce you both. You will lust after cute girl number 2 and buy her a few rounds as well. Maybe you will feel guilty and keep ugly girl number 1 around for another free drink for introducing you to the cute one. Then the big kicker comes in. They both have an extraordinary sexy, hot stunner model friend with huge tits and a slim body. They will bring her over and now you are fucked. Ms. Superstar has her choice of customers every night. Stunner girls and the hottest girls at every venue will get to pick and choose which customers she goes with every night, how much she gets from him, and what she does with him. So now you have to ask yourself, why me? Was I getting played all along? And you may end up with nothing, but a huge drink bill and back to ugly girl that first smiled at you. By then, they make you feel so popular and everybody, including the the cleaning lady is asking for a tip. See you got fucked over multiple times by the girls and the entire bar?
A way to beat this is to go straight to the stunner girls and no bullshiting around. Go into the bar. Ask the waitstaff for a specific number. When she comes to you, ask her if she wants to make 3000 baht. If she says "yes," buy her a drink and then pay her barfine and go. If she says "no" you wasted nothing. I'll share 2 gems with you that get down to business without all the hustle. This is how ISG members are supposed to share intel. Enjoy.
#309 Named "Wear" at Happy A Go Go. Her body and face is all natural, no surgery. She only has small be cup boobs but they are firm. She is slender and has very nice legs. She has a very sexy. Cute all natural body with long, wavy black hair. Small tattoo on her back. Dances usually by 8:30. She offers BBBJ with CIM and when drunk, you can negotiate bare services. 3000ST and 5000 LT.
Another, my friends and I like to call "The Girl With The Golden Pussy'" is #108, named Ana of Baccara A Go Go. She is taller, long legs, and huge silicone. Long hair, shapely ass, with a large tattoo on her back. She is a wild cat in bed and does BBBJ with CIM like it's her favorite meal of the day. She also does massages with her pussy. Go before 10:00 to find her. Once you bang her, she has you under like a witch's spell. 2500ST and 5000 LT.
I'm very experienced with the Pattaya scene.....Now THAT is a great post.
Mr Enternational
05-07-18, 02:34
Here's some news: True love doesn't require money. See what happens when there is no money. No money, no honey. Those who reach this point are hopeless. I don't shed a tear for your dumbasses.LOL. Great report. You are exactly right. I have had plenty of relationships with Thai women that did not cost me money. Well maybe going on dates, but not giving her money or "gifts". And only an extra dumbass would pay a dowry.
Banana Boi
05-07-18, 02:53
I have a feeling this poster is a reincarnation of someone we all know.
Member #4698
05-07-18, 04:24
I have a feeling this poster is a reincarnation of someone we all know.Yeah, the viewpoint expressed comes from a certain quadrant of the ISG. They are entitled to their point of view and we are entitled to ours which is sometimes in almost total opposition to theirs. To each his own. Whatever works for you. Yada, yada, yada.
And I rarely have problems with Go Go girls like the ones enumerated in the original post. When I choose to go to a Go Go; I go to party, drink, spend some money, have a good time and find the right girl. If I am not in the mood for all that and just want to shag I go to a massage parlor or call up a girl I already know. There is a right time and place for both.
But I can't recall how many times I have bought drinks for a "new" girl that I initially asked over and then bought a round or two for one or more of her GF's, got treated really well by all the girls (you know what I mean), and in the long run ended up in a menage a trois with the whole bunch of them on successive nights. BM's sometimes ask me how I arrange threesomes. There, I just outlined how. You can't plan it. You just let it happen.
My MO is simple: I treat Go Go girls nice like almost any girl I would meet in a bar, except I know I ain't going to get shot down, and they return the consideration 10-fold. I don't care about the 1 or 2% that don't have their heads on straight. They are the losers, not me and they only get to screw me one time, NEVER twice. Anyway, what is a few hundred Baht blown on a bad girl once in a blue moon? Nada! It's like drilling for oil in an oil field only the odds of a good strike in a Go Go are exponentially better.
Great Report! Appreciate this.
I'm very experienced with the Pattaya scene, but honestly. I don't like to contribute too much on here because most guys on here really don't share anything but "stories about their conquests" without sharing true intel. What sucks is that most guys don't even mention a girl's name, what she looks like, where to find her, or her dance number (most important) in case another member wants to hook up with that girl. Then they have nerve to call it a field report. Almost all of the girls dancing at the Go Go bars have numbers, yet only a few ISG members ever share that info. What's up with that? You seem very lost, so I'll help you out a bit with some advice about the Go Go bars. Different bars vary with barfine prices so nothing is set in stone. It can be 800 - 2000. For the girls, it's whatever they want, but usually 3000ST - 5000 LT. If they like you, it maybe less. If they don't, then it may be more. However, be wary of the many hustles when it comes to these girls. I've included a few below.
1. I'm going to hustle you for drinks to make my commission and salary game. Most Go Go bar girls in Pattaya often work 10 day contracts in Pattaya. In those 10 days, if they get 45 drinks from customers, they will receive 10,000 baht. Models will get even more. So for some girls, who really don't like men (yes most are lesbians and have tomboys), there may not be need to go with a customer for sex. Now the bigger issue is with regards to the stunners or the hotter girls are those damn drinks..
A few questions, as I plan to visit Pattaya this weekend for the first time.
I want to ask some questions because I may have misunderstood in my research.
1. So Soi 6 girls, in bars that have rooms upstairs, for one hour you pay 1000 baht and 350 room fee, and that's it? No bar fine because its on site?
2. Soi 12-13 massage places are 1000 baht?
3. You can take a bus to Pattaya from Bangkok for 180 baht from the Suvarnabhumi airport? I live about 9 miles from the airport in Bang Na, so I wonder if this would be the cheapest, easiest way.
Thinking if I like it, I might go down there for a month.
Mr Enternational
05-08-18, 05:20
So Soi 6 girls, in bars that have rooms upstairs, for one hour you pay 1000 baht and 350 room fee, and that's it? No bar fine because its on site?Correct, but feel free to talk the girls down to 700.
Soi 12-13 massage places are 1000 baht?It is whatever you negotiate with the absolute max being 1000 everything included.
Correct, but feel free to talk the girls down to 700.
It is whatever you negotiate with the absolute max being 1000 everything included.Holy freakin' moley, I think I'm going to like Pattaya!
Correct, but feel free to talk the girls down to 700.
It is whatever you negotiate with the absolute max being 1000 everything included.However not including the massage I guess? 1000 is the max for the extra's.
Member #4591
05-08-18, 09:35
A few questions, as I plan to visit Pattaya this weekend for the first time.
I want to ask some questions because I may have misunderstood in my research.
1. So Soi 6 girls, in bars that have rooms upstairs, for one hour you pay 1000 baht and 350 room fee, and that's it? No bar fine because its on site?
2. Soi 12-13 massage places are 1000 baht?
3. You can take a bus to Pattaya from Bangkok for 180 baht from the Suvarnabhumi airport? I live about 9 miles from the airport in Bang Na, so I wonder if this would be the cheapest, easiest way.
Thinking if I like it, I might go down there for a month.You can catch Vans from Central Bangna to Pattaya and Chonburi for about 120 Baht. No need to go to the Airport. Head over to Central a few days before to scope out the vans by asking where they pick passengers up. I have been dropped off their plenty of times.
3. You can take a bus to Pattaya from Bangkok for 180 baht from the Suvarnabhumi airport? I live about 9 miles from the airport in Bang Na, so I wonder if this would be the cheapest, easiest way.
A cheap way for you would be to go to the Eastern Bus Terminal next to Ekkamai BTS station (even though this means you're going in the wrong direction first).
A bus to Pattaya is only about 108 Baht from that terminal.
You can take a bus to Pattaya from Bangkok for 180 baht from the Suvarnabhumi airport? I live about 9 miles from the airport in Bang Na, so I wonder if this would be the cheapest, easiest way.Cheapest yes. Easiest is taking a cab (which for 1000 baht extra I'll do all day long). Except going to Ekkami (hate to get caught in traffic though is that a problem no traffic past airport usually.
Mr Enternational
05-08-18, 12:55
However not including the massage I guess? 1000 is the max for the extra's.No. 1000 is the max including the massage. As I have said before, when I take a massage chick back to my room the shop charges 500. I give the girl an extra 500 for FS. If I am inside of the shop then I certainly would not give 1000 total. I would give the same 500 FS plus the price of the massage. I understand though that for a lot of people here negotiating is either not one of their strong points or is not something they are comfortable doing since guys usually quote the given price instead of the negotiated price.
No. 1000 is the max including the massage. As I have said before, when I take a massage chick back to my room the shop charges 500. I give the girl an extra 500 for FS. If I am inside of the shop then I certainly would not give 1000 total. I would give the same 500 FS plus the price of the massage. I understand though that for a lot of people here negotiating is either not one of their strong points or is not something they are comfortable doing since guys usually quote the given price instead of the negotiated price.I'm not uncomfortable with a little bit of negotiating but I would feel uncomfortable with only 500 for FS. As long as the girl looks reasonably decent anyway.
Do you think you get the same level of service if you talked down the price?
I'm not uncomfortable with a little bit of negotiating but I would feel uncomfortable with only 500 for FS. As long as the girl looks reasonably decent anyway.
Gin And Tonic
05-09-18, 05:55
Yeah you are right about that. One time I was returning from shopping at BigC North Pattaya, and I decided to take a detour down Soi 6 for a bit of a look. Just before I exited to 2nd Road, one of the chicks in a bar shouted out to me "Hey, cum fuck me"!
If I wasn't carrying a big tub of yoghurt that I needed to put in my fridge straight away I may have done just that.The bar would keep that yogurt in their cooler for you no problem.
The bar would keep that yogurt in their cooler for you no problem.My problem with Soisix was the bed its clean or not?
The bar gives only two fucking towels.
Do you think you get the same level of service if you talked down the price?I don't think it is easy to talk down the price in all these joints in Pattaya. I get the feeling that these chicks all have their set prices and if you do not accept their price then they do not give the service. They don't seem desperate. It appears to me that they are all acting like a cartel. And that they will TOFTT (take one for the team), by refusing your lower price offer. The "team" being all the other Thais out there.
A brilliant write up that all newbies will find very useful. Thanks for sharing!
Only question I have is the 10,000 baht the bars pay the girls for selling 45 or so drinks. Even at 300 B a lady drink the bar makes only 13,500 baht. What's the incentive for the owner to pay 10,000 to be girl?
I'm very experienced with the Pattaya scene, but honestly. I don't like to contribute too much on here because most guys on here really don't share anything but "stories about their conquests" without sharing true intel. What sucks is that most guys don't even mention a girl's name, what she looks like, where to find her, or her dance number (most important) in case another member wants to hook up with that girl. Then they have nerve to call it a field report. Almost all of the girls dancing at the Go Go bars have numbers, yet only a few ISG members ever share that info. What's up with that? You seem very lost, so I'll help you out a bit with some advice about the Go Go bars. Different bars vary with barfine prices so nothing is set in stone. It can be 800 - 2000. For the girls, it's whatever they want, but usually 3000ST - 5000 LT. If they like you, it maybe less. If they don't, then it may be more. However, be wary of the many hustles when it comes to these girls. I've included a few below.
1. I'm going to hustle you for drinks to make my commission and salary game. Most Go Go bar girls in Pattaya often work 10 day contracts in Pattaya. In those 10 days, if they get 45 drinks from customers, they will receive 10,000 baht. Models will get even more
Do you think you get the same level of service if you talked down the price?No, probably not. Another good reason not to negotiate bottom of the barrel prices.
Only question I have is the 10,000 baht the bars pay the girls for selling 45 or so drinks. Even at 300 B a lady drink the bar makes only 13,500 baht. What's the incentive for the owner to pay 10,000 to be girl?The bar also makes money when the girls get barfined.
Blanquiceleste
05-09-18, 10:00
The bar also makes money when the girls get barfined.The bar keeps the entire bar fine amount. Nothing from the bar fine is given to the girl. She makes what you "tip" her for the services.
Mr Enternational
05-09-18, 10:31
A brilliant write up that all newbies will find very useful. Thanks for sharing!
Only question I have is the 10,000 baht the bars pay the girls for selling 45 or so drinks. Even at 300 B a lady drink the bar makes only 13,500 baht. What's the incentive for the owner to pay 10,000 to be girl?Maybe each place is different. A girl that I was messing with a couple of months ago said that they make 50 baht from each lady drink. So subtracting that 2200 from the 3500 left then the bar would only be left with making 1,300 for the month.
Mr Enternational
05-09-18, 10:36
I don't think it is easy to talk down the price in all these joints in Pattaya. I get the feeling that these chicks all have their set prices and if you do not accept their price then they do not give the service. They don't seem desperate. It appears to me that they are all acting like a cartel. And that they will TOFTT (take one for the team), by refusing your lower price offer. The "team" being all the other Thais out there.Of course it is easy. How could they have a set price when I have been talking them down forever? I am not reporting on something that I heard or that I think; I am reporting on something that I know and that I have constantly experienced. And when have you ever seen me make a report on bad service in Thailand? Never that I can recall! A lot of guys report on bad service after paying the given price. (Do you remember that royal treatment that FLHawk received after shelling out all that money for the chick at WhatsUp?) I have never noticed poor service from a chick in any monger location after talking them down. I doubt this is even a thing. Just a figment of some mongers' imaginations.
Member #4591
05-09-18, 11:11
Of course it is easy. How could they have a set price when I have been talking them down forever? I am not reporting on something that I heard or that I think; I am reporting on something that I know and that I have constantly experienced. And when have you ever seen me make a report on bad service in Thailand? Never that I can recall! A lot of guys report on bad service after paying the given price. I have never noticed poor service from a chick in any monger location after talking them down. I doubt this is even a thing. Just a figment of some mongers imagination.I agree that the only thing that is not negotiable on Soi 6 is the price of the room and the girl can decide to charge whatever she wants. I think 1000 is just the standard. However, negotiating a lower price can effect the level of service you get but I think you are just wise enough to know when and where you can do it and with whom. An experienced monger will always know this.
Franciscass
05-09-18, 12:08
A bar has 2 revenue streams, bar fines and drinks which can be further broken down into customer and lady drinks. Guaranteed income for the girls is in reality irrelevant as it is dependent on reaching their quotas. You will be hard pressed to find bars that pay a "salary" when a girl consistently falls short. Successful operators could guarantee 25000 a month and still come out ahead if they attracted the more successful working girls. One or more bar fines a night and up to a 100 drinks a month and they are well ahead.
On the issue on whether service is affected by a customer negotiating reductions on standard rates I would say probably not. Girls in my experience have a somewhat fixed service routine but I have no doubt they will have a somewhat poor view of somebody who essentially takes advantage of their circumstances to give them less than what is already a very reasonable price. I'm not talking here about the go go girl who wants silly money for her time but the soi 6 girl or the massage girl who is willing to provide full service for a 1000. I know the argument nobody is forcing them to take 500 but come on for fcuk sale have a heart and show some empathy.
I have never noticed poor service from a chick in any monger location after talking them down. I doubt this is even a thing. Just a figment of some mongers' imaginations.I suppose you are right about this one if they agree to do the service. I have overall found thai chicks to be pretty honest and keen to do a good job.
But I was mainly talking about them not wanting to drop their price.
One incident sticks out in my mind when I took an oilie at the "Lucky Finger" massage next to Kiss 2nd Road Soi Diana. The one hour oilie cost 300 baht, and then at the finish I said I would give the girl 300 baht for HJ finish. She said no, and that the price was 500 baht and that I would not find a HJ for under 500 baht in Pattaya.
I begged to differ, so didn't up my offer. She didn't lower her price, so no transaction was forthcoming.
It just seemed strange to me that a chick refused 300 baht for 5 minutes of easy work that would have tripled what she earned from the cut that she got from the 1 hour oilie that she gave me. Let's say she got a 150 baht cut (and had to do a lot more work to get it). I don't know exactly.
That's why I reckon she is taking one for the team, and helping to keep prices for these sorts of services at elevated levels. Also I think that she is getting some sort of perverse pleasure in refusing me a sexual service, as a punishment for not meeting her price point.
I agree that the only thing that is not negotiable on Soi 6 is the price of the roomYes, I think you are right about that one. I must have walked into one of those Nightwish bars on Soi 6 not so long ago, and negotiated with a chick for 1000 baht boom boom. However I wasn't too happy when I found out that the room cost was going to be 400 baht.
So I offered the chick 300 baht for the room. Handed her three 100 baht notes. She sort of just looked at them and hesitated and didn't know what to do. After a short while, it looked like everything was about to go pear-shaped so I took the notes back out of her hands and walked out of the bar.
No one said anything, no one called me back.
I like to do this sort of thing now and again to remind businesses that some of us mongerers are price-sensitive. The bar just lost my very generous offer of 300 baht, and the girl just lost 1000 baht.
Anyway, I suppose they don't give a rat's ass as there is always another punter just a few minutes behind me anyway, willing to pay up.
Soon after I located a bar with a 300 baht room charge and a chick with a big pair of tits for 1000 baht. I mean, a 100 baht saving is tomorrow's lunch.
... Soon after I located a bar with a 300 baht room charge and a chick with a big pair of tits for 1000 baht. I mean, a 100 baht saving is tomorrow's lunch.Isn't it true that the bars across the street (the "ladyboy" side) tend to charge only 300 baths? I remember at least one next to the blow-job shops that charges only 300 for rooms actually better than most 400 baht rooms elsewhere. By better room I mean a better bed and, most importantly, a bedside mirror.
Mr Enternational
05-09-18, 16:36
One incident sticks out in my mind when I took an oilie at the "Lucky Finger" massage next to Kiss 2nd Road Soi Diana. The one hour oilie cost 300 baht, and then at the finish I said I would give the girl 300 baht for HJ finish. She said no, and that the price was 500 baht and that I would not find a HJ for under 500 baht in Pattaya.LOL. That is wild because that is the shop that I go to to get my nails done. I did not know they did extras there. One girl there is my buddy's girlfriend and they live together. The girl that does my nails is so innocent. She has been looking for a boyfriend for the longest. There are a couple of chicks there that I would love to get extras from but I am not about to shit where I sleep (not that I haven't done it before!)
MadisonGuy
05-09-18, 20:28
A little help please. From what I'm reading here it's close to 200 USD to grab a girl from a bar. I can't imagine Thailand being as popular as it is with that kind of pricing, am I reading something wrong? That's USA pricing practically. If I go to the bar there, have a couple drinks, get a girl a couple drink, and take her back what is the night going to most likely run me? I was thinking about jumping up for a weekend from the Philippines but from the quick scan I've done the cost is too out there.
Mr Enternational
05-09-18, 22:58
From what I'm reading here it's close to 200 USD to grab a girl from a bar. I can't imagine Thailand being as popular as it is with that kind of pricing, am I reading something wrong? That's USA pricing practically. If I go to the bar there, have a couple drinks, get a girl a couple drink, and take her back what is the night going to most likely run me?This is complicated and it does come up here every now and then. First off there are tons of ways to get laid in Pattaya. You are asking specifically about bars though. Then the question comes: what type of bar? Beer bar, blow job bar, Soi 6 bar, agogo bar, gentlemen's club?
If you go into a top agogo bar then you can very well spend that much money. Personally, I have never met a pussy that I wanted to spend even half that on. But in Thailand you have to pay a fee to the bar for the girl to leave with you, then you have to pay the girl. The bars that I would go to you would pay a bar fine of from 300-500 baht and no more than 1500 baht Long Time for the girl (I usually have no problem getting them down to 1000 baht.) So generally speaking you are looking at $60 plus add another $20 for those drinks you want to buy. ($46 for me because being the Cheap Charlie that I am, I am going to talk them down and I am not buying any drinks.) You can contrast this with a post FL Hawk made a couple of weeks on What's Up agogo bar where he spent $250.
Remember that this is in Pattaya. In Bangkok it is going to cost you more.
Prostitutes Dance in Walking Street Bar. I really miss this place, I remember this bar. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0txLCnwDqLw.
Member #4591
05-10-18, 03:05
A little help please. From what I'm reading here it's close to 200 USD to grab a girl from a bar. I can't imagine Thailand being as popular as it is with that kind of pricing, am I reading something wrong? That's USA pricing practically. If I go to the bar there, have a couple drinks, get a girl a couple drink, and take her back what is the night going to most likely run me? I was thinking about jumping up for a weekend from the Philippines but from the quick scan I've done the cost is too out there.You can't and should not factor in the cost of drinks, food, and transportation if you go to a bar to meet a girl for P4 P. Back home as everyone likes to say, we don't meet P4 P ladies in bars, at least I didn't. I went to incalls or massage parlors. If you want to calculate the cost of drinks and food into it, then why not calculate your flight, taxi, and hotel as well? Look it's very simple. If you go to a bar, it's an evening out and there will be extra costs involved over and above the cost of the girl. If you only want to pay for a girl, the bars are not the place for you. Cost of girls only:
High end freelance: 4,000-6,000 Baht ST
Go go bar: Bar fine 700 Baht avg, 2,500ST avg=3,200 Baht.
Massage parkour: 1,500-2,500 Baht depending on location.
Beer bar: Bar fine 300 Baht avg, 1,500ST avg= 1,800.
Soi 6 Bar: 1000 Baht. 300-400 for the ST room=1,400 Baht.
Freelance: 1,500ST for a decent looking girl from Insomnia, Thai Friendly, or We chat.
Beech road ugly fugly: 500-1000 Baht.
In the end, if you go to a bar, you must pay for drinks for you and the girl, including if you go to Insomnia bar. Who would go to a bar without buying drinks anyway? Guys, its a bar, thats their main source of income. So if you don't want to buy drinks to inflate the cost, choose another option. It's Pattaya and there are plenty. I may have left out a few other options such as gentlemen’s clubs and blow job bars. Even BJ bars and soi 6 will have drinks available.
So, if you don’t want to buy drinks, go to massage parlors or contact freelancers on beech road, we chat, Thai Friendly or even just walk around the streets or shopping malls and talk with the ladies. Common sense guys!!!!
UltraHappy
05-10-18, 03:42
In the end, if you go to a bar, you must pay for drinks for you and the girl, including if you go to Insomnia bar. Who would go to a bar without buying drinks anyway? Guys, its a bar, thats their main source of income. So if you don't want to buy drinks to inflate the cost, choose another option. It's Pattaya and there are plenty. I may have left out a few other options such as gentlemens clubs and blow job bars. Even BJ bars and soi 6 will have drinks available.
So, if you dont want to buy drinks, go to massage parlors or contact freelancers on beech road, we chat, Thai Friendly or even just walk around the streets or shopping malls and talk with the ladies. Common sense guys!!!!Good price summary.
I don't buy drinks at Soi 6 bars when I am just going there to bar fine a girl. (1) I don't drink. (2) The bar is getting compensated just fine from the bar fine itself. (3) Not my fault if the bar happens to be selling a beverage that I'm not interested in. (4) Yes, if I hang out in the bar for any length of time, I will buy a drink as "rent" for my seat. (5) I will buy a lady drink if I need to spend more than 37 seconds to "interview" a girl. If I complete my "interview" in less than 37 seconds, I do not buy a drink. Just me.
Good price summary.
I don't buy drinks at Soi 6 bars when I am just going there to bar fine a girl. (1) I don't drink. (2) The bar is getting compensated just fine from the bar fine itself. (3) Not my fault if the bar happens to be selling a beverage that I'm not interested in. (4) Yes, if I hang out in the bar for any length of time, I will buy a drink as "rent" for my seat. (5) I will buy a lady drink if I need to spend more than 37 seconds to "interview" a girl. If I complete my "interview" in less than 37 seconds, I do not buy a drink. Just me.Yeah I never understand why someone wants to fill their bladder up with fluid just prior to entering a vaginal canal. That can become uncomfortable, and also makes it harder to cum.
Also the bar's business model of selling unhealthy substances full of sugar and alcohol is just plain wrong. I met one freelancer on Beach Rd once who told me that she worked in a bar on Soi 8 but had to give up the job because she was forced to consume so many of these unhealthy lady drinks. Putting excess crap in her body to the detriment of her long term health. Just to put money in the pocket of the business owner. I would prefer a business model that just charged for time spent at the bar. But TIT.
MadisonGuy
05-10-18, 13:25
This is complicated and it does come up here every now and then. First off there are tons of ways to get laid in Pattaya. You are asking specifically about bars though. Then the question comes: what type of bar? Beer bar, blow job bar, Soi 6 bar, agogo bar, gentlemen's club?
If you go into a top agogo bar then you can very well spend that much money. Personally, I have never met a pussy that I wanted to spend even half that on. But in Thailand you have to pay a fee to the bar for the girl to leave with you, then you have to pay the girl. The bars that I would go to you would pay a bar fine of from 300-500 baht and no more than 1500 baht Long Time for the girl (I usually have no problem getting them down to 1000 baht.) So generally speaking you are looking at $60 plus add another $20 for those drinks you want to buy. ($46 for me because being the Cheap Charlie that I am, I am going to talk them down and I am not buying any drinks.) You can contrast this with a post FL Hawk made a couple of weeks on What's Up agogo bar where he spent $250.
Remember that this is in Pattaya. In Bangkok it is going to cost you more.Thanks man! I was worried my math might be off a bit. You've traveled all over I remember your posts from years ago. I'm more of a hang out at a bar and drink type so when the drinks end up being ridiculously priced it turns me off. Del Rey is still one of my favorite places. So if I'm in Philippines and want to go somewhere close to try a new spot, cheap and fun, do you have any suggestions? I've heard Vietnam once but done no research. I know the sites where I can get it for free and plan ahead, but I'm not looking to do that.
Yeah I never understand why someone wants to fill their bladder up with fluid just prior to entering a vaginal canal. That can become uncomfortable, and also makes it harder to cum.
Also the bar's business model of selling unhealthy substances full of sugar and alcohol is just plain wrong. I met one freelancer on Beach Rd once who told me that she worked in a bar on Soi 8 but had to give up the job because she was forced to consume so many of these unhealthy lady drinks. Putting excess crap in her body to the detriment of her long term health. Just to put money in the pocket of the business owner. I would prefer a business model that just charged for time spent at the bar. But TIT.A lot of times I just order a bottle of water or soda water. The bars are perfectly happy to sell that to me as the margins are higher. I realize it's silly to pay 150-180 baht for water but see it as the price of admission to the GoGos and gladly pay it to avoid alcohol overload. Some of the best / healthiest girls order soda water / milk as their lady drink realizing that they can't go hard on alcohol long-term (these seem to be the ones that age well, 555).
LOL. That is wild because that is the shop that I go to to get my nails done. I did not know they did extras there. One girl there is my buddy's girlfriend and they live together. The girl that does my nails is so innocent. She has been looking for a boyfriend for the longest. There are a couple of chicks there that I would love to get extras from but I am not about to shit where I sleep (not that I haven't done it before!)I'm staying on Soi Diana and I know Kiss. But I don't find a massage place with the name lucky finger. There are several massage places near Kiss on Soi Diana. Can you be more specific? Is it first massage next to Kiss?
Thanks!
I'm finding not many tourists in the streets or in the beer bars. Girls are calling to me for the first time in several years, I'm a septa-something. Quality isn't terrible, some gems among lots of seriously old and undoables IMO. Haven't visited go-gos yet. Excite still relatively ok but no young innocents there. Some ok around Soi Buakhao massage parlors.
I'm staying on Soi Diana and I know Kiss. But I don't find a massage place with the name lucky finger. There are several massage places near Kiss on Soi Diana. Can you be more specific? Is it first massage next to Kiss?
Thanks!No it is not on Soi Diana. It is on 2nd Rd. There are either 2 or 3 parlours right next to each other just opposite the alley from Kiss. It is the one furthest from Kiss. It is less than about 20 meters away from Kiss, so don't stray too far. But if you want a HJ, it is best to go to Soi Chaiyapoon.
Mr Enternational
05-11-18, 20:55
I'm staying on Soi Diana and I know Kiss. But I don't find a massage place with the name lucky finger. There are several massage places near Kiss on Soi Diana. Can you be more specific? Is it first massage next to Kiss?From Soi Diana go to Second Road and turn left. You will see a pharmacy straight ahead. Go to the door of the pharmacy but instead of walking in, look to your left and that is the door for Lucky Finger.
I'm finding not many tourists in the streets or in the beer bars. Girls are calling to me for the first time in several years, I'm a septa-something. Quality isn't terrible, some gems among lots of seriously old and undoables IMO. Haven't visited go-gos yet. Excite still relatively ok but no young innocents there. Some ok around Soi Buakhao massage parlors.That's because its low season and they'll get a bit more desperate for customers. Happens every year between April to November.
I'm a septa-something. A septa-something? Do you mean you're in your seventies?
A septa-something? Do you mean you're in your seventies?Yes I'm 74 to be exact. Walk a lot, even in the heat and humidity. Can't monger as I used to of course but can try what I can do. I find condoms to be close to impossible for example. So I go mostly with HJ unless I find a lady that can really turn me on. Then it's a pill and I can get hard enough but then I have trouble cumming, it's a trade off. Now I found a lady at Anon massage near Soi Diana and 3rd Line I think. Across from used book store / coffee shop. Story: I took her yesterday, the usual 500 +200, and almost finished but not quite. She worked hard, tried her best so I tipped her and extra 200. Went back today and got super treatment, and it worked! Great! Worth the extra tips by me, no question about it. Now I want to try natural without pills with condom. Maybe I can do it, maybe not. Whatever, I'm happy to be where I'm at!!BTW, thanks guys for info on location of massage places I asked in an earlier post.
That's because its low season and they'll get a bit more desperate for customers. Happens every year between April to November.Agreed! I walked around BR around 10 pm last night, near central market area. Saw a cute small spinner type, maybe 30 but who knows. My favorite type, and I looked more than once. She followed me, asked what I wanted. I asked how much, 500 thb plus hotel 250. Short time of course. Not bad, no negotiation! But her eyes were absolutely bloodshot red, I'm from the 60's I thought drugs. So I said no but, sorry price police, I gave her 100 just because. I said bye, she followed me soon after and said she go with me long time, same 500, my hotel. Good deal, but those eyes. I couldn't do it.
Banana Boi
05-12-18, 14:26
That's because its low season and they'll get a bit more desperate for customers. Happens every year between April to November.Low season. When I can enjoy 60 gogo girls to myself daily. I know it's a tough life living here.
That's because its low season and they'll get a bit more desperate for customers. Happens every year between April to November.
Low season. When I can enjoy 60 gogo girls to myself daily. I know it's a tough life living here.What's a better month to visit: March or May?
What's a better month to visit: March or May?March may be a little cooler weather wise. Plus you can dip out before Songkran.
What's a better month to visit: March or May?May. Because March is still 10 months away LOL.
But seriously: it doesn't make much difference.
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