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You could be right, but I have never gotten an STD. Definitely gotten a kid though.That is pretty much my worst nightmare. I'd rather stick my dick in and have it spontaneously burst into flames than get the bad news phone call / visit / lawsuit. Couldn't be much worse than the post-Thai food BJ at the DD.
Erectile medications are reactively cheap in Thailand and available without prescription. They definitely help.Yes, they do help, but only to a small degree in my case. I've been supporting the drug and condom companies pretty heavily. The medication that works best for me is a smoking hot girl or two, but these are getting increasingly hard to find, at least in a middle class monger's price range. In BKK last month I coupled a cute little spinner escort with some serious pharmaceuticals and got to the next level in the video game of sex: It stayed rock hard but there was just not enough feeling to climax. I guess I got my money's worth based on how, um, stiff I was the next day.
Maybe some VR goggles with decent porn would work. Indecent porn would probably work better.
Without fathering a child out of wedlock but familiar with Australian laws regarding child support etc. I'm thinking in Thailand and other Asian countries that enforcing any form of compensation particularly if one is a foreigner would be hard? And unless you agree to a DNA test proving fatherhood would be hit and miss?
I'm snipped so not a problem but I'm interested in any stories.
Well, she is indeed hot. Sometimes the hotness of a girl can make up for lack of performance of the girl and for her being overpriced by far. Maybe once or twice. But 10,000 bhat total? Yikes.2000 barfine, 5000 for her, drinks at Palace and What's Up with a few of her friends and my own were about 3000. She's a no repeat for me. She is 100% all hustle. I think I knew that and that's why we never connected in 2 years. It was just that I was tipsy and decided to get her off my check list.
Blanquiceleste
06-10-18, 04:16
Lew Ashby has really come through with some wonderful reports, along with pics. His posts offer tremendous learning opportunity to anyone visiting Pattaya. The story of those losers he took along to Skyfall is a real eyeopener.
LA, mate just one little observation. I am sorry to break it to you, but all those girls you think are non-WG. Think again. More power and respect you for the reports. Keeps the thread alive and a welcome distraction from the bickering on prices or STD or performance enhancement drugs.
Rob Jones, another shout out to you as well.
Lew Ashby has really come through with some wonderful reports, along with pics. His posts offer tremendous learning opportunity to anyone visiting Pattaya. The story of those losers he took along to Skyfall is a real eyeopener.
LA, mate just one little observation. I am sorry to break it to you, but all those girls you think are non-WG. Think again. More power and respect you for the reports. Keeps the thread alive and a welcome distraction from the bickering on prices or STD or performance enhancement drugs.
Rob Jones, another shout out to you as well.Thanks Blanq.
I think both Lew and myself look at the thread as an information sharing platform and in turn it becomes a learning tool as well. We spent about 3 days together and our fun was only enhanced by information we gleaned from the forum so it's right for us to share our experiences too so others can learn or educate us with feedback.
Thanks.
Rob.
LA, mate just one little observation. I am sorry to break it to you, but all those girls you think are non-WG. Think again. More power and respect you for the reports. Keeps the thread alive and a welcome distraction from the bickering on prices or STD or performance enhancement drugs.
Rob Jones, another shout out to you as well.Hahaha touche Blanc! What I meant there was that "bargirl" is not their primary profession with one being a student and another being a working professional. But I still paid for everything and gave them 1 k per day so if we drew a line in the sand, no doubt they would be considered prostitutes haha. I am definitely not as naive to think that this was either of their first time being a "holiday GF" .
And thank you for the kind words, RJ and I came together after my last trip reports came just before his first trip earlier this year. We have been in contact discussing, scheming, and hyping eachother up for this past trip ever since! Still complete noobs with many things to work on (I have to seriously get spending under control), we appreciate all of the input from more experience board members and try to contribute as well since it is definitely a continuous improvement process. What a time to be alive eh?
Cheers,
Lew.
Oh the time creeps up on you in Patts, doesn't it? Ahhh well it's been great so far! Let's not get down, but rather go out with a bang!
Every time I wake up Namtarn is awake so I opt to get it in again around 3:30 then pass back out. I awake at 9 am and she is still wide awake. So weird (Looking back on it and discussing with RJ- maybe that is just her sleeping pattern with the #bargirl life LOL) I'm guessing she is a light sleeper and my snoring did not help the cause. I get it in again and then we go down for bfast. Thinking she would leave, she undresses when we get back to the room and says she is going to sleep. She asks if I want to barfine her again today and I say I am not sure. She says if I pay the 1500 barfine then she will just stay with me for nothing. That makes her 5000 LT rate a bit cheaper and I consider but do not commit. Realizing she probably hasn't slept all night, I head down to the hotel gym to give my other muscles some action.
I get back to the room and ole girl is passed out. A little after 3 pm, Rob messages me saying his girl just left and asks what I am doing. I say this girl is sleeping here still, and he says he will come over in 5 minutes. He comes in and we are being loud but nothing, we go next door to his room to have a beer and talk strategy. I say I am considering taking her up on her offer, and his girl from last night gave him the same offer, but says he has twin sisters lined up to meet us for dinner at 7 and that we should hit soi 6, 7, and 8 between now and then. I realize that I've already been doing too many repeats and wake her up and kick her at $$ out. She is not happy about this, and maybe she thought I was going to barfine her again, but I did not commit so do not feel that bad. She gets up slowly and still cleans the room before she goes haha. I give her 5000 and Rob and I are off to soi 6!
We walk down and look around; he said he will just follow my lead so we go into Red Point for a beer. I see a nice looking spinner right as we walk in the sliding door and make the drink motion. She sits down next to me, and I am getting pretty turned on. She feels my member, says I am big size and that she will not go upstairs. Wtf? Seriously I am below average in the US LOL. Rob hears it and is wondering what her deal is. I tell him I have no idea. The girl he had was pretty sexy and he asks if I want her, before I can answer (I totally would have) she says she wants to go with him, haha. Wow that's a first for me rejected in soi 6! Twice! We slam our beers, pay the bill and bounce. Nothing else catches our eye between there and Beach Road so we baht bus it to Soi 7. We walk through the beer bar complexes and one catches my eye. We stop in and decide to play pool with 2 of them. I initially went after the hardened one, but the one Rob had is younger and much sweeter. Well the next thing you know Rob has me set up to take both of them back to my room haha. 300 BF for each and 2000 to each for ST. Rob is talking to them and it will be their first 3 some. I am wondering how this will go. I finish my beer, and Rob says he will meet me back at the hotel.
Back at the room and the hardened one (on the left in the first picture) showers alone, while the younger one showers with me. I am thinking that this will just end up being me with the younger one and I am right. We are all lying on the bed and the blowjob that I was hoping to come from both of them at the same time does not happen. Instead one blows me while the other kisses me. Rubber on and the hardened one mounts me for some cowgirl. I have the younger one sit on my face. Ok this is alright. After a while of that, new rubber and they trade places. The younger one feels much better and I'm thinking I will just do her moving forward. That is what I do as the other one just lays there watching. I tell her to at least play with herself and she does. I am just pounding away with the one doggie style looking at my reflection in the mirror Patrick Bateman style and can't resist the urge to flex my bicep LOL. The young one is saying that her pussy is sore, so I have her to apply some KY. Going a little soft from the condoms, so I tell the hardened one to blow me. Back to 95% strength (ha) and I put on a natural lamb (going to hell I know) I lay back and tell the one I like to finish me. Cowgirl never fails! I ask which one wants me to finish in their mouth then and they both say no, ah worth a try. Younger girl is starting to get fatigued but I am close, so I help her move up and down until I finish. Man she had a pretty nice vajajay, I would have liked to went in there BB. I ask what she is doing later but she does not seem interested. Rob messages me at 7:15 saying he is back and I tell him to come in as the girls are getting dressed haha. He enters and asks how it was, I say it was ok but a little awkward; he reminds me that it was their first time doing this, and I am not as disappointed. He mentions that the sisters are meeting us at 7:30 so we push the Soi 7 girls out and head to Robin Hood Tavern to meet some twins for dinner.
We meet them and his is definitely the superior looking one with bolt ONS and better figure, but mine is super sweet and I get a vibe she has not been doing this very long. We order food and play 2 on 2 pool. I am absolutely terrible, and it comes down to me with an easy direct shot of the 8 ball in the side pocket. I straight up botch it but miraculously it banks of the other side and still goes in the pocket. I fall on the floor laughing and then our food arrives. We finish the food and beers and head to the hotel. I wasn't sure how this was going down, but figured we would just bang the sisters in the same room so I did not waste any time when we got back to my room and went in for it (in the back of my head I'm thinking "eat them up, beat them up, then switch sides? LOL) Rob's twin did not seem down and they left the room together. Although my twin did not have the spinner body that I was looking for, we did have some chemistry and we had a good flow. She asked if I had any condoms, and I say "mai chawwwp" (don't like). She said she cannot, but I showed her my std results as all negative and she smiles and says ok. Went for some DATY to and then went in. Her pussy was the tightest of the trip! It was almost a little painful on my member, but it felt pretty good. Finished and was up for another session. Her sister and Rob came over, and the expression on RJ girl's face was that she was ready to go, but I still proceeded to go after my twin and entered her again. She was a bit dry at this point and I didn't feel like lubing it up so we stopped. As she was getting dressed, I asked Rob what to give her and he said 1000. I was like that's it? What a steal! I liking where this night was heading.
We took a baht bus down to Walking Street and went straight to Crazy House. This ended up being our only stop of the night as he arranged four girls to accompany him back! Respect! I recall one that I turned away as I was not a fan of her nose and lip piercing (Fi: on the left in the second picture) previously but tonight she does not have the lip in, and she is smiling at me again so I buy her a drink. Then one of her friends (Fah: green dress) sits down on the other side of me. At this point Rob has rubbed off on me and I am contemplating this threesome. He negotiates 1 k barfines for us at 10:30 pm so I say screw it and do it. We pay the barfines, and I am eager to GTFO, but we buy them a couple more rounds of drinks as the girls seem to be having fun. Now this is where things got complicated for me, and although I was pretty upset at the conclusion of this, I never locked down expectations. They say 3 k ST and I counter with 2 k and they say they will. I then ask how long they will stay if we go LT and they say all night. I verify that they will indeed both blow me at the same time, eat eachother out, and I can cum on both of their faces and they are down. I say "ao ao ao (I want I want I want). So I was totally thinking that they are staying LT at this point- but I'm willing to take the blame here for not establishing that outright. I have my girls change and then tell Rob that I'll be back. I quickly head to say bye to my Mamasan at Simon where, she sends me off with 2 tequillas. Rather than buy the girls drinks, I just tip 20 baht (getting low on funds haha) and they seem content with that. For the girl I took last night (Namtarn) I give 100 baht for her to feel special and I depart back to CH.
I get back and Rob is gone with his 4 girls; my 2 are waiting for me outside and we head back to the hotel around midnight. We get back to the hotel sometime between 12:30 and 1 am and waste a bit of time- rooftop bar for drinks, to the pool for a make-out session, and even to the gym (pictured haha). We get to the room and everything is going well. Fi's body shows some baby damage, and her curves were not in all the right places as they appeared in the club haha. Fah has the spinner body that I am looking for and we definitely vibe better. At least this started out well with both giving me a BJ at the same time licking up and down the shaft. From here I survey both vaginas and Fah feels much better. I proceed to give her more attention while Fi excuses herself to go to the bathroom. Next thing you know, she is showered and dressed. I say wtf? And unfortunately Fah has little English competency. I ask her what Fi is doing and then suggest that Fi should just leave. I get up, give her 2000 and say she doesn't have to stay. She just goes and sits in the bathroom, and I am confused. Whatever, I enter Fah bareback and she does not object. Going at it mish, I see Fi standing nearby on her phone out of the corner of my eye and ask her what she is still doing here. I say she doesn't have to stay LT anymore, and that I will just have FAH spend the night. She says something to Fah in thai and finally departs at 2:30. Ok back to business. BBFS resumes and then 15 minutes later Fah says she has to go back to the bar by 3 am to get something and I have no idea wtf is going on. I am assuming that the 2 k ST to Fi to send her off was ok, and that Fah would just stay LT, but it seems we had a failure to communicate. She is adamant that she has to go back to the bar, and that she will come back. Realizing that this is a losing battle I give up; she gives me her line and says she will be back after. Before getting on the motorbike taxi, she asks for 2 k, and I say why if she is coming back. Now I am sure that she isn't coming back, so I say I'll give her 1500 now and the rest when she returns. She takes it and gets on a motorbike taxi.
*Side note: I was obviously not happy about this, and told Rob to question them the following night when he was there. He said that he talked to them and that they said I was unclear. I guess technically I was so I'll take the blame there for not being savvy enough to establish a clear understanding by all up front. It is clear that these girls thought it was just a ST venture, and what had so much potential was cut short by a bunch of wasted time spent everywhere in the hotel but my goddamn room. Oh well, it was a good time, but I think I am just a one girl type of guy. At least I got some solid video of making out with them and them making out with eachother LOL. Fa and Fi were not really my style of girls, but they were down to get nasty so chalk it up as a new experience. Moving forward, I will probably just stick to Skyfall, Bliss and Palace and my goto gogos.
Now it is closing in on 3 am and I have blue balls from not even blowing it so I hit up Namtarn and she says that the bar is about to close and that I can just meet her outside Frog Bar to save the barfine. I head down to Walking street on a motorbike taxi, and on my way there guess who I see- f'in Fah. She seems surprised then takes me by the arm and we walk. Hmm maybe she wasn't lying? She leads me to Fi and I see a very surprised look on her face where I am sure she asked her why she brought me here. They converse in thai, and then Fi types something into Fah's phone via google translate that says she is going home because she is too drunk. I just give her a hug and walk away.
About 3:15 am now and I am surprised at all the talent I am seeing! Next time, I am going to just walk the strip at 3 am and stake out some potential partners, then just hit a disco if all else fails. Namtarn meets me and we head to the hotel. She knows I am going to Bangkok tomorrow, and said she had the next 2 days off and that she could come. I am already planning on meeting my Skyfall girl so I just ignore it. In the room, she is not too thrilled with all of the used towels and condom wrappers that I didn't bother cleaning up haha. She ends up cleaning the whole room as I just lie down and wait. She showers and then lies next to me and I immediately go in for some DATY and lick all the way up to her neck. Teasing her with my dik rubbing it against her, I enter raw. After 10 or so insertions she says condom and I pull out and look for one, but do not see any handy. We just continue to go at it, and bareback it for the rest of the night. Is this her trying to get to come to Bangkok? Well it worked. I ask her if she wants to come spend a night (key word - 1 night) in Bkk with me and come back tomorrow to which she happily agrees. I told my Skyfall girl that I was just spending another day in Pattaya and brought Namtarn with me. I will touch on this in the Bangkok forum, but that turned out to be a big mistake. She was fun and bubbly, but just expected to be pampered and babied. Not my style. And night 1 Namtarn came out in BKK she literally did not sleep that first night in BKK and I knew she would just sleep from after bfast through the afternoon so it just gave me more ammo to kick her at $$ out when we get back to the room. 3000 to her for the 2 nights and I didn't even wait for her taxi to show up. She tried to call and sent me a bunch of messages trying to guilt trip me for opting to meet up with another girl (below), but I just ignored. RJ can attest to what a deadbeat she was. My style is to "treat a working girl like a princess and a princess like a working girl" haha, sure she was a 21 yr old hottie with a great ass who offered me BBFS, but attitude goes a long way right felllas? And for those curious. My planned departure was Saturday (6/2) night, but the 2 days with my skyfall girl went so well that I regretted wasting that day with ole girl. What makes the most sense? The only option in my head was to call an audible and change my flight haha. Changed it to Wednesday 6/6, not a bad way to spend 100 bucks hahahaha.
I'm a stickler for the bro code and the following night at CH another BM and myself were recruiting for "party" and both of Girls who dissappointed Lew applied and were rejected I told mamasan why and wouldn't buy them a drink either even after they spent 10 minutes working on my stiff boy.
I reminded them that us guys talk about the girls as well!
Good report Lew.
Steve 9696
06-10-18, 23:32
Lew, dude, you get way more bareback than is common. And not pre-negotiated. Just spur of the moment BB. Wow. Can you give us a little background (without giving yourself away) I am guessing you are not your average 50+ year old fat balding punter? What are your deets? Any other tips?
Also, if married how are you doing the STD tests? I am paranoid my wife would find out.
In the spirit of returning a tiny bit following your massive contribution, let me suggest you work your threesome into the following position. One girl on all fours on the bed and you standing on the floor. Girl 1 faces you for BBBJ or away for Doggie. Girl two stands on bed and straddles girl number 1 facing you. With girl 2 you can DFK continuously and choose hands on tits or FIV for her while pounding either the mouth or pussy of girl 1. Swap it up when you feel like it.
This for me is the epic position my 2 Ro-girls in London taught me. I could do it to the exclusion of all else! Course I love to kiss, so that a big part of this.
I'm a stickler for the bro code and the following night at CH another BM and myself were recruiting for "party" and both of Girls who dissappointed Lew applied and were rejected I told mamasan why and wouldn't buy them a drink either even after they spent 10 minutes working on my stiff boy.
I reminded them that us guys talk about the girls as well!
Good report Lew.Yeah and I'd do the same for you brother!
I thought back to that night, it was pretty hilarious when we took 6 of the better girls in there! Sure didn't leave much for the other punters haha.
Banana Boi
06-11-18, 01:07
Thanks for your reports Lew. Sounds like you had a blast.
Because of your reports my plan was to check out skyfall last night. Unfortunately I didn't make it. Infinity didn't have many girls but certainly some nice ones last night. I haven't been able to say that of late. Palace oth was as weak as I've seen it last night. Still about 60 girls but seemed like many of the nice ones were missing. Understandable I guess after a weekend of fireworks.
Yeah and I'd do the same for you brother!
I thought back to that night, it was pretty hilarious when we took 6 of the better girls in there! Sure didn't leave much for the other punters haha.Were you there the night I barfined Cat and Bow who were sitting on the other dudes laps when we hit the bar? The looks on their faces were priceless LOL.
Luke Thomson
06-11-18, 05:06
In Pattaya a few weeks back with three of my buddies for a few days. My other buddy Lew, references me as "L" in his reports. Not only first time in Pattaya but in Thailand in general. Luckily, I had some great stewards in 2 of my friends (Lew included) who showed me the ropes. But, as everything in life, you also have to just figure it out on your own. The days and nights were a blur of hitting Kinnarree, Soi 6 and walking street. Kinnarree is fantastic. Has the feeling of a really nice gentleman's club and there are so many women around at any given time. And they provide a top notch experience. It's definitely an afternoon spot. Go have lunch and then head up (of course on a motorbike taxi! You will definitely get your world rocked if you so choose. I think they specialize in making sure you will come back for more and not for the faint of heart. If anything, hard to make sure you can hold your load for more than 15 minutes, haha. Soi 6 - you have to look but there are definitely some diamonds in the rough. You'll get the biggest bang for your buck there, so to speak. I think maybe my favorite place was Red Point, if I'm remembering correctly. Met a chick who did anal there, great time in that instance and afterwards just hangout with her, some of the other ladies and the staff and drank afterwards. Fun night. Which didn't end after I went back to the hotel and passed out. Woke up at 4:00 am and went back out for another hour and partied at a club with my buddy, his chick and this hottie (who in hindsight I wish I had invited back with me). Walking street and the go-gos – hands down Skyfall is the best. Best in terms of talent, atmosphere, and experience with the women. The individual experience may have been the best of the trip. All of the staff are great as well. You can certainly spend the money so come prepared to bust your budget; however, a wise man once told me. What a time to be alive. Cheers!
Previously she was a model at Imagine and What's Up. Now she works Iron Club. She's about 5'1 and less than 105 lbs with fake breasts. I've gotten her drinks and chatted with her before but she refuses to let me barfine her to bang her. I've offered her 15,000 once (I was drunk and not sure if I was playing around knowing she wouldn't call my bluff). She declined anyways. So has anybody on here nailed this girl? Just asking. To see if she even is barfine (able).
Blanquiceleste
06-11-18, 13:29
So I have been following this Instagram love story of a bar girl from Pattaya I had banged last year during my SongKran trip. Nothing new, I am sure this has happened a million times before, but nevertheless it is a good learning for all of us.
A flashback. During my 4 day stay last year I met this girl at one of the bars in Simon complex on WS. A real diamond in the rough. After a session at a nearby ST hotel, I asked her to stay LT. And she was fantastic. But I have to move on, so many pussies, so little jizz. We kept in touch and even chatted regularly. After a couple of months she said she had found a boyfriend, a young European guy who was besotted with her. I wished her good luck and carried on. During my next visit in August last year she came to see me for a few hours but could not stay overnight as she was flying off to Phuket the next day with this boyfriend of hers. Well. Good going.
Fast forward to now, around a month back. She texts me saying this guy is really in love and he wants to marry. I say very good for you, your life will be good. Then she asks me to add her on my Instagram and see her pics and her boyfriend's pics. So I take a look and what do I see? This guy has totally gone head over heels. Plenty of expensive gifts, holidays and other stuff. I said to myself, this girl has really landed a big fish. So I message her to convey my best regards. She texts me back saying she is flying to Europe by the end of this month to meet his family and then get married in July. Great! So I ask her if she will ever return to Thailand.
And she says. Wait for it! Yes, she will return in November when it gets too cold and go back in April to Europe. Me being the shameless **** that I am, asks her if she will see me when I visit Pattaya during December. Now, I have really no plan to visit but I wanted to see what response I get. And the girl says of course, she will see me.
I said OK, I will let you know, but for now congratulations to you and your boyfriend. And then I said a silent prayer for the poor lad. I felt real sorry for him. Sad.
Banana Boi
06-11-18, 15:30
Nice story Blancqui. I hope everyone here is paying attention. Unless you're with a Thai girl 24/7/365 she's out there cheating on you. I don't care what her story is to you. Then again, we're out there cheating on her so we really can't get upset, can we?
Mr Enternational
06-11-18, 15:55
And the girl says of course, she will see me.
I said OK, I will let you know, but for now congratulations to you and your boyfriend. And then I said a silent prayer for the poor lad. I felt real sorry for him. Sad.Why would you feel sorry for him? It is simply a cultural or personal difference. From your post, you do not have the same definition of boyfriend/girlfriend that she has. (And you don't necessarily know how they have defined their relationship.) To her a boyfriend is someone who takes care of a girl. To you a girlfriend is someone that does not fuck other people. That is why when people get together they need to define the parameters of the relationship. I have a girlfriend in Brazil and one in Colombia. But that is not to say they don't expect me not to fuck other people. Likewise, I could care less if they do.
Was browsing through and came across this soapie named Rasputin, learned that they even have Russian girls. I always wanted to try a Russian! Can anyone here who have tried Russian at Rasputin help me on this? How's the service of Russian girls there, how are they look wise and what's the charge?
TIA,
Aarush.
Blanquiceleste
06-11-18, 16:52
Nice story Blancqui. I hope everyone here is paying attention. Unless you're with a Thai girl 24/7/365 she's out there cheating on you. I don't care what her story is to you. Then again, we're out there cheating on her so we really can't get upset, can we?BB you might even remember this chick who came in to meet me at the LK Metro GoGo bar where we were seated along with Illusion and Uncle V.
Why would you feel sorry for him? It is simply a cultural or personal difference. From your post, you do not have the same definition of boyfriend/girlfriend that she has. (And you don't necessarily know how they have defined their relationship.) To her a boyfriend is someone who takes care of a girl. To you a girlfriend is someone that does not fuck other people. That is why when people get together they need to define the parameters of the relationship. I have a girlfriend in Brazil and one in Colombia. But that is not to say they don't expect me not to fuck other people. Likewise, I could care less if they do.I perhaps thought now that she is getting married she might actually quit the trade and settle down. Well, I was wrong.
I felt sad for the bloke only because he has major heartbreak, depression and all sorts of hellfire coming his way soon. Seems like a decent lad, nice house, lives with his parents. You know, the sort that still goes to church on Sundays and gives grace before each meal?
In Pattaya a few weeks back with three of my buddies for a few days. My other buddy Lew, references me as "L" in his reports. Not only first time in Pattaya but in Thailand in general. Luckily, I had some great stewards in 2 of my friends (Lew included) who showed me the ropes. But, as everything in life, you also have to just figure it out on your own. The days and nights were a blur of hitting Kinnarree, Soi 6 and walking street. Kinnarree is fantastic. Has the feeling of a really nice gentleman's club and there are so many women around at any given time. And they provide a top notch experience. It's definitely an afternoon spot. Go have lunch and then head up (of course on a motorbike taxi! You will definitely get your world rocked if you so choose. I think they specialize in making sure you will come back for more and not for the faint of heart. If anything, hard to make sure you can hold your load for more than 15 minutes, haha. Soi 6 - you have to look but there are definitely some diamonds in the rough. You'll get the biggest bang for your buck there, so to speak. I think maybe my favorite place was Red Point, if I'm remembering correctly. Met a chick who did anal there, great time in that instance and afterwards just hangout with her, some of the other ladies and the staff and drank afterwards. Fun night. Which didn't end after I went back to the hotel and passed out. Woke up at 4:00 am and went back out for another hour and partied at a club with my buddy, his chick and this hottie (who in hindsight I wish I had invited back with me). Walking street and the go-gos hands down Skyfall is the best. Best in terms of talent, atmosphere, and experience with the women. The individual experience may have been the best of the trip. All of the staff are great as well. You can certainly spend the money so come prepared to bust your budget; however, a wise man once told me. What a time to be alive. Cheers!One of the best concise field report I have read in a while! Thanks for sharing.
Mr Enternational
06-11-18, 17:31
I felt sad for the bloke only because he has major heartbreak, depression and all sorts of hellfire coming his way soon. Seems like a decent lad, nice house, lives with his parents. You know, the sort that still goes to church on Sundays and gives grace before each meal?But maybe he knows what is going on and does not care.
On a show I watch called Shameless there was a married rich guy that would go to gay bars and do gay shit. One of the main characters on the show was one of his patrons and he was in need of money. He decides to extort the guy and showed up to his house threatening to tell his wife of his gay exploits. Totally backfired. The guy called his wife downstairs. Turns out the wife was the one with all the money and she not only knew, but sometimes participated in his antics. That is how they got down. Don't judge a book by its cover.
Me being the shameless **** that I am, asks her if she will see me when I visit Pattaya during December. Now, I have really no plan to visit but I wanted to see what response I get. And the girl says of course, she will see me.
I said OK, I will let you know, but for now congratulations to you and your boyfriend. And then I said a silent prayer for the poor lad. I felt real sorry for him. Sad.I am had something similar. Met a sweet girl in a gogo maybe in 2015. Leaving the club on her motorbike to my hotel for ST, I asked if she was hungry. She was so we stopped at a place and talked a bit, though she was difficult to understand. At the hotel, she was horrible in bed, but was still kind and friendly. She seemed to like me and seemed to be unaware she was not performing well (as opposed to giving a bad performance and not caring), leaving me a little confused. We exchanged Line IDs. I was switching hotels the next morning and she offered to return to take me to my new place. She did and there was no mention of meeting later or payment. It was like she was simply being a friend. Later she texted to see if I wanted to meet her again. I told her I was happy to meet with her as a friend, but not for sex, as it was bad. I didn't hear back from her, but after I got home I felt bad for my bluntness, as I really liked her otherwise. She remained friendly asking me when / if I was returning the Thailand. She was making trips to Taipei and, and when I said I was wanting to return to Patts, she asked several times when. I did want to see her, but when I returned she was in Taiwan. I later learned she was engaged to a Taiwanese man and, last year, she married him, but before the marriage she would still ask where I was and did I want to see her, though it seemed to be innocent and I didn't know if she was simply being friendly, if she wanted to meet as a friend or if she was willing to have sex. Very strange!
She lives in Taiwan now so apparently doesn't get back to Patts for business activities, but she always seems happy to hear from me, saying she is happy in her marriage (even though he is shorter than her and, looks-wise, is out of her league). I don't think we will ever meet again, but I find it interesting that she will still chat with me on occasion, even sending me a picture of her in a very beautiful and fancy red wedding dress. As with you, I hope she is happy as she never seemed the type to do well as a bar girl. Definitely a nice and friendly girl, but not destined for being a bar girl for long. How she and her hubby met, if it was in the agogo or not, or if he knows of her past, I have no idea. Kind of wish now I had seen her again. Strange how we men can suddenly want something when we lose it! Haha.
Banana Boi
06-11-18, 21:44
FL, your story is quite a common one. I still keep in touch with many girls taken by sponsors / husbands and have moved to the husband's country. I get sad face emojis, photos, and a couple continue to do video chats. These girls clearly aren't happy with the man they are with. They put on an act to get their allowance.
I always wanted to try a Russian! Can anyone here who have tried Russian at Rasputin help me on this? How's the service of Russian girls there, how are they look wise and what's the charge?
I don't visit Rasputin often but there was one who was very pretty 2 years ago. Swing by if you're curious we all have different taste. Can't recall the exact amount but it was around the 7000 baht range. I'd expect the Russian service to be like any other girl at a soapie....mechanical.
BB you might even remember this chick who came in to meet me at the LK Metro GoGo bar where we were seated along with Illusion and Uncle V.Yes I remember. Good looking girl. Definitely better looking than anyone we saw at LK metro that evening.
It must be very common the situation of meeting and falling in love with these girls. I have 2 instances, one personally and another involving a girl I was going to meet.
Mine happened in Indonesia more than 10 years ago and I was besotted with this cute young girl from Semarang. A couple of visits and I am ready to import her but the radar is picking up bleeps. There was another guy in the picture an ex she says. This is in the days of Yahoo Messenger so I make a phone account and hit on her chatting as me on my phone and as my alter ego on the laptop. She agrees to meet and f0 ck my alter ego while telling him that she has a guy but he is not in hand to satisfy her needs so she is open to casual sex with a fee and also declares the other guy as booty call material. A lesson learnt.
Only this year I'm getting contacts for my recent trip and meet this girl on TF who works at Billabong? Bar. Sure we can meet and gives ST and LT prices. We chat on Line and suddenly I see a pic of her in an Australian Street. I know the area! I ask where are you and she tells me she visiting a friend. Great I tell her I know the area. No she can not meet me. About 3 weeks later I get a random friend request and accept it on Line. It's her BF asking what my relationship is with her? He goes on to say he is crazy in love with her and intends to marry. He found her phone opened in Line and found our messages and who knows what else!
I tell him to read the messages and ask her. Not my problem.
We all get burnt but I think if you you think when you take the girl out of the bar that you take the bar out of the girl you are kidding yourself.
My 2 cents.
In Pattaya a few weeks back with three of my buddies for a few days. My other buddy Lew, references me as "L" in his reports. Not only first time in Pattaya but in Thailand in general. Luckily, I had some great stewards in 2 of my friends (Lew included) who showed me the ropes. But, as everything in life, you also have to just figure it out on your own. The days and nights were a blur of hitting Kinnarree, Soi 6 and walking street. Kinnarree is fantastic. Has the feeling of a really nice gentleman's club and there are so many women around at any given time. And they provide a top notch experience. It's definitely an afternoon spot. Go have lunch and then head up (of course on a motorbike taxi! You will definitely get your world rocked if you so choose. I think they specialize in making sure you will come back for more and not for the faint of heart. If anything, hard to make sure you can hold your load for more than 15 minutes, haha. Soi 6 - you have to look but there are definitely some diamonds in the rough. You'll get the biggest bang for your buck there, so to speak. I think maybe my favorite place was Red Point, if I'm remembering correctly. Met a chick who did anal there, great time in that instance and afterwards just hangout with her, some of the other ladies and the staff and drank afterwards. Fun night. Which didn't end after I went back to the hotel and passed out. Woke up at 4:00 am and went back out for another hour and partied at a club with my buddy, his chick and this hottie (who in hindsight I wish I had invited back with me). Walking street and the go-gos hands down Skyfall is the best. Best in terms of talent, atmosphere, and experience with the women. The individual experience may have been the best of the trip. All of the staff are great as well. You can certainly spend the money so come prepared to bust your budget; however, a wise man once told me. What a time to be alive. Cheers!Hi Luke.
I picked up the baton with Lew when you guys went home. What a champion guy Lew is. I had a ball with him and loved the fact that he introduced me to Kinnaree. I'm happy you enjoyed Pattaya.
Rob.
Blanquiceleste
06-12-18, 01:11
But maybe he knows what is going on and does not care.
On a show I watch called Shameless there was a married rich guy that would go to gay bars and do gay shit. One of the main characters on the show was one of his patrons and he was in need of money. He decides to extort the guy and showed up to his house threatening to tell his wife of his gay exploits. Totally backfired. The guy called his wife downstairs. Turns out the wife was the one with all the money and she not only knew, but sometimes participated in his antics. That is how they got down. Don't judge a book by its cover.Perhaps he does, perhaps he does not. Only time will tell. And this is one story I am going to follow.
And as for reality TV shows, they all are not as real as we think them to be. Having worked in that line I would know.
Blanquiceleste
06-12-18, 01:14
I am had something similar. Met a sweet girl in a gogo maybe in 2015. Leaving the club on her motorbike to my hotel for ST, I asked if she was hungry. She was so we stopped at a place and talked a bit, though she was difficult to understand. At the hotel, she was horrible in bed, but was still kind and friendly. She seemed to like me and seemed to be unaware she was not performing well (as opposed to giving a bad performance and not caring), leaving me a little confused. We exchanged Line IDs. I was switching hotels the next morning and she offered to return to take me to my new place. She did and there was no mention of meeting later or payment. It was like she was simply being a friend. Later she texted to see if I wanted to meet her again. I told her I was happy to meet with her as a friend, but not for sex, as it was bad. I didn't hear back from her, but after I got home I felt bad for my bluntness, as I really liked her otherwise. She remained friendly asking me when / if I was returning the Thailand. She was making trips to Taipei and, and when I said I was wanting to return to Patts, she asked several times when. I did want to see her, but when I returned she was in Taiwan. I later learned she was engaged to a Taiwanese man and, last year, she married him, but before the marriage she would still ask where I was and did I want to see her, though it seemed to be innocent and I didn't know if she was simply being friendly, if she wanted to meet as a friend or if she was willing to have sex. Very strange!
She lives in Taiwan now so apparently doesn't get back to Patts for business activities, but she always seems happy to hear from me, saying she is happy in her marriage (even though he is shorter than her and, looks-wise, is out of her league). I don't think we will ever meet again, but I find it interesting that she will still chat with me on occasion, even sending me a picture of her in a very beautiful and fancy red wedding dress. As with you, I hope she is happy as she never seemed the type to do well as a bar girl. Definitely a nice and friendly girl, but not destined for being a bar girl for long. How she and her hubby met, if it was in the agogo or not, or if he knows of her past, I have no idea. Kind of wish now I had seen her again. Strange how we men can suddenly want something when we lose it! Haha.Great story Hawk.
I reckon this girl I am referring to met the guy in Pattaya, as she is originally from Buriram. But a large part of her family is also stationed in Pattaya, right next to Aksorn School. So he should know of her past. If he does not then clearly he isn't thinking right.
As for wanting this chick, sure I will happily bang her again if she is available, but I won't break my own rules for that.
Jimmy Boy 99
06-12-18, 04:27
Snip.
After a couple of months she said she had found a boyfriend, a young European guy who was besotted with her. I wished her good luck and carried on. During my next visit in August last year she came to see me for a few hours but could not stay overnight as she was flying off to Phuket the next day with this boyfriend of hers. Well. Good going.
Fast forward to now, around a month back. She texts me saying this guy is really in love and he wants to marry. I say very good for you, your life will be good. Then she asks me to add her on my Instagram and see her pics and her boyfriend's pics. So I take a look and what do I see? This guy has totally gone head over heels. Plenty of expensive gifts, holidays and other stuff. I said to myself, this girl has really landed a big fish. So I message her to convey my best regards. She texts me back saying she is flying to Europe by the end of this month to meet his family and then get married in July. Great! So I ask her if she will ever return to Thailand.
And she says. Wait for it! Yes, she will return in November when it gets too cold and go back in April to Europe. Me being the shameless **** that I am, asks her if she will see me when I visit Pattaya during December. Now, I have really no plan to visit but I wanted to see what response I get. And the girl says of course, she will see me.
I said OK, I will let you know, but for now congratulations to you and your boyfriend. And then I said a silent prayer for the poor lad. I felt real sorry for him. Sad.A guy who would let his wife go away for five or six months because of the cold weather is too stupid to feel sorry for. Why is he getting married? To have a summer-time wife? What is he going to do for sex and companionship when she is gone? Does he think she is going to be celibate while she is in Thailand? Marrying her will be a disaster for him. Maybe his parents will talk some sense into him when they meet her.
For my 3rd trip, I planned for 8 total nights in Pattaya; The first 4 were with my buddy V who accompanied this past December and 2 of our mutual newbie friends L + W. I will mention L only as W turned out to be a lame loser. I mean opting to go to the Elephant Sanctuary one of the days and watching a movie in his room on another. If he was coming blind, that'd be one thing, but he knew what to expect and seemed eager to indulge. Needless to say, he is dead to me.Uh oh, and I was actually seriously thinking about visiting the elephant sanctuary too, hah. I just don't have it in me to do those marathon sessions with multiple girls in a row that you guys are able to; need time to rest / recharge.
Anyway, someone mentioned Wear (#309) at Happy, and while she is indeed quite the looker, she was not all that friendly. Bought her a drink, and before she had even finished it, she'd run off saying "it was her turn to dance". Didn't see her again after that. Well, whatever. I'm here until Friday, so a few more days to get a better draw.
Banana Boi
06-12-18, 05:08
What is he going to do for sex and companionship when she is gone? Funny I had just assumed he was German and wanted to go to the FKK clubs 6 months of the year. If not German then yes I agree he is a fool.
I am flying into pattaya airport. How much is it to go to beach road? How far is It? I will have a suitcase and a duffle bag so motorbike taxi is probably not going to work. Anything different I should know compared to flying into bjj?
Thanks for the help and advice.
Mr Enternational
06-12-18, 05:57
I am flying into pattaya airport. How much is it to go to beach road? How far is It? I will have a suitcase and a duffle bag so motorbike taxi is probably not going to work. Anything different I should know compared to flying into bjj?
Thanks for the help and advice.200 baht. Takes about 1 hour depending on the other people that have to be dropped off. There will be shuttle vans when you arrive. You just tell them what hotel you are staying at.
I've asked a few questions lately and several people have been kind enough to answer me. I am not sure the best way to say thank you. But I do appreciate it and thank you all.
200 baht. Takes about 1 hour depending on the other people that have to be dropped off. There will be shuttle vans when you arrive. You just tell them what hotel you are staying at.
OnlyOneLife
06-12-18, 12:11
Well, in last two days I picked up 2 girls for LT from "pattaya beer garden". Just outside Walking street. This bar has few 6/10 girls. I will write in detail along with few photos. Meanwhile can anyone please suggest any specific bar to pick up doable girls? My budget 2 k-3. 5 k for LT.
Mr Enternational
06-12-18, 13:34
Meanwhile can anyone please suggest any specific bar to pick up doable girls? My budget 2 k-3. 5 k for LT.If you are paying that much at a beer bar (or even FL bar) then you are paying way too much in my opinion. I was at a bar on Soi 8 the first day of the fireworks festival and negotiated with a chick 300 bar fine and 800 for LT. The day before, I met a chick on Tinder that works at another Soi 8 bar (used to be Beehive). I went to see her and I whooped her ass in 3 games of pool. She got off at 10 and came over after work LT for 1000. I think it was Wednesday when I was at Toy Box on Soi 6 and the chicks were asking the amount you mentioned. I did not try to negotiate; all I could do was laugh.
OnlyOneLife
06-12-18, 14:22
If you are paying that much at a beer bar (or even FL bar) then you are paying way too much in my opinion. I was at a bar on Soi 8 the first day of the fireworks festival and negotiated with a chick 300 bar fine and 800 for LT. The day before, I met a chick on Tinder that works at another Soi 8 bar (used to be Beehive). I went to see her and I whooped her ass in 3 games of pool. She got off at 10 and came over after work LT for 1000. I think it was Wednesday when I was at Toy Box on Soi 6 and the chicks were asking the amount you mentioned. I did not try to negotiate; all I could do was laugh.Well, good looking girls are asking 3 k from me, I am not white so this is expected. I roamed around soi 7 soi 8 and soi buakhao but could not see any doables there. With so many girls around, it is easy to miss (I am not very picky either) !! Can you recommend any girl or beer bar? Feeling helpless as a brown guy (This is never to say I am not getting pussys, only the price and quality does not match) !! Thing is, the best looking are up for only ST, some won't even budge below 3 k for LT. Last 2 days I paid 2 k for LT but they were not very beautiful (but doable offcourse) . Next time I will visit either with my white friends or to some other destination like Manila!!
Mr Enternational
06-12-18, 15:08
Well, good looking girls are asking 3 k from me, I am not white so this is expected.Dude. I am not White either. I am Black. Ain't shit expected. If anything, they will want more money from a White guy because they ASSUME he has more money than you! Think about it. If me and Bill Gates walked in to your store, you would try to sell the same item to him for more than you would to me because you pretty much figure he is not only able, but also willing to pay it.
It is not what they are asking; it is what you negotiate. Look back over my posts and you can see screenshotted examples of where I negotiated with the girl. Hell, one chick even came for 500 LT after a few days earlier initially asking 2000 LT. Then before she left the next afternoon, she said she would be back the day after, but I had to hold her at bay so I could fit other chicks in.
But if you are willing to shell out 3.5K (obviously you have more money than me) you should be able to get anybody you want in Pattaya. I have never even heard something like that drop out of a chick's mouth unless it was an expensive ass gogo. And if you get them to listen to themselves while they say a figure like that, it will even sound ridiculous to them. The same way that it does not hurt her asking for a higher price, it does not hurt you asking for a lower one. As far as I am concerned, all of these broads came from the same place (planting crops in bum fuck Esan) and most of them will eventually end up in the same place (pushing around a food cart). There is nothing special that one has over the other; otherwise they wouldn't be in Pattaya selling ass!
Uh oh, and I was actually seriously thinking about visiting the elephant sanctuary too, hah. I just don't have it in me to do those marathon sessions with multiple girls in a row that you guys are able to; need time to rest / recharge.
Anyway, someone mentioned Wear (#309) at Happy, and while she is indeed quite the looker, she was not all that friendly. Bought her a drink, and before she had even finished it, she'd run off saying "it was her turn to dance". Didn't see her again after that. Well, whatever. I'm here until Friday, so a few more days to get a better draw.She's a sexy as hell girl with a very nice ass. I've gone with her 3 times for LT. Apparently it paid for her new nose job I saw her with recently. Her name is Wayer but she is picky with her customers. If you want to take her, I suggest do it early and give he however much she wants. Don't even try to haggle with her. She will get up and leave. She was always good with me when we went together. Nice chick.
Well, good looking girls are asking 3 k from me, I am not white so this is expected. I roamed around soi 7 soi 8 and soi buakhao but could not see any doables there. With so many girls around, it is easy to miss (I am not very picky either) !! Can you recommend any girl or beer bar? Feeling helpless as a brown guy (This is never to say I am not getting pussys, only the price and quality does not match) !! Thing is, the best looking are up for only ST, some won't even budge below 3 k for LT. Last 2 days I paid 2 k for LT but they were not very beautiful (but doable offcourse) . Next time I will visit either with my white friends or to some other destination like Manila!!If you are looking to bang decent looking girls and don't like rejection just go to the soapy massages 2500 and up. Soi 6 bars has some options too. They can't say "no" (I think). The most beautiful girls get to pick and choose their customers when it comes to bars and clubs. If she's the hottest one there or even top 10, more than likely you better have something she wants besides money. That's because there are 100 other guys who also have money as well all in the same place. You can get laid in Pattaya, but it not always your first, second, or even third choice. Last night I was at What's Up messing around. This girl there dislikes me so much that I even offered her 50,000 baht for one night and I laid it all out on the table in front of me to show her I had the cash. She told the Mamasan and waiter "not him!" So even I get rejected now and then. She was like bottom of my to do list anyways, so my feelings weren't too hurt. I think she knew that after seeing me for over 2 years at her work place.
Whatever some one else wants to do is ok with me and lots of people have more money then me. That said 50,000 for a girl is crazy. More power to you though if you can afford it and want to spend it that way.
If you are looking to bang decent looking girls and don't like rejection just go to the soapy massages 2500 and up. Soi 6 bars has some options too. They can't say "no" (I think). The most beautiful girls get to pick and choose their customers when it comes to bars and clubs. If she's the hottest one there or even top 10, more than likely you better have something she wants besides money. That's because there are 100 other guys who also have money as well all in the same place. You can get laid in Pattaya, but it not always your first, second, or even third choice. Last night I was at What's Up messing around. This girl there dislikes me so much that I even offered her 50,000 baht for one night and I laid it all out on the table in front of me to show her I had the cash. She told the Mamasan and waiter "not him!" So even I get rejected now and then. She was like bottom of my to do list anyways, so my feelings weren't too hurt. I think she knew that after seeing me for over 2 years at her work place.
As far as I am concerned, all of these broads came from the same place (planting crops in bum fuck Esan) and most of them will eventually end up in the same place (pushing around a food cart).
Truer words have not been said Mr E. I have only been to Pattaya 2 times and I will never work out the Thai girl mind set. I have sat in a near empty a gogo and not one girl make eye contact with me. This happened in 3 in a row last month, I had just hit town horny as can be with about 24000 Baht burning a hole in my pocket! In frustration as leaving the third place I pulled out 10,000 and showed the girls gathered around the door. 3 asked for drinks and I impolitely told them to f&ck off.
You have to remember these girls have little to no education and there idea of a business plan is easy money fast and tomorrow doesn't exist.
Rob.
Soi 6 bars has some options too. They can't say "no" (I think).Of course they can say no. On Soi 6, I got rejected once when I returned for a repeat because the girl was hurt that I didn't come the first time with her. She didn't want to face "failing" with me again. She was happy to sit and talk to me, and seemed surprised when I got up to leave, and she was adamant that she liked me and would otherwise have repeated with me, but she takes her work seriously and bla bla bla. She was college educated, for what that is worth. Surprising. Very stunning girl, and had I think I could have pulled of a come with her, but oh well.
And some of the young girls may not want a fat, old, ugly etc. Dude. I can understand that! And if they are making good money sticking with the younger and handsomer dudes, then fine. So, they can either ignore you or walk away. If it happens, you may be able to go to the mamasan, but the worst they can do is charge the girl for the BF they are missing out on. The girls are free lancers there and it would be prostitution if the owners made them to with a dude they didn't want. But really, do you want to be with a girl who is sickened at the thought of being with you? You can always find cute-enough girls who will show you a good time regardless of your looks.
Same probably applies in a soapie. Even the ones that wave and smile at you will likely be mechanical with you. If she isn't even looking at you, they why would you want to pick her? Again, if you pick her anyway, she can probably refuse to see you. If not, expect a bad session!
I am flying into pattaya airport. How much is it to go to beach road? How far is It? I will have a suitcase and a duffle bag so motorbike taxi is probably not going to work. Anything different I should know compared to flying into bjj?
Thanks for the help and advice.Mr. E gave pricing, but this is how you find the vans. Enter the terminal after deplaning and get your luggage. When you exit the luggage area, you will pass through a room with several vendors selling tickets for the vans and, I suppose, taxis. I don't think it matters which vendor you go to. Go to one offering van rides to Pattaya and get a ticket for a van ride to Pattaya. My memory is now a little clouded, but keep your ticket visible and head outside towards the vans that are lined up and eventually you will get directed to one. A bit confusing, but it works. And don't take your time getting a ticket! There are only so many vans and so many taxies, and I have seen a couple of people get left behind.
A taxi will get you to your hotel faster for more money, but the vans will get your there too, but you may be the last one off after many others are dropped off.
Blanquiceleste
06-13-18, 01:14
............and their idea of a business plan is easy money fast and tomorrow doesn't existCan't blame them now, can you? Look at the odds.
1. There are nearly 10,000 similar providers all available within a 2 km radius.
2. The average buyer is around for less than a week.
3. The lifestyle they lead is all about YOLO and materialism.
Why would they not go after money fast and easy? Especially when there is a sucker born every minute. I was reading the PI thread where one guy sent money to chick for her to finger herself online. She is now claiming she popped her cherry with her own finger and is demanding a payment for that.
Blanquiceleste
06-13-18, 01:17
Mr. E gave pricing, but this is how you find the vans. Enter the terminal after deplaning and get your luggage. When you exit the luggage area, you will pass through a room with several vendors selling tickets for the vans and, I suppose, taxis. I don't think it matters which vendor you go to. Go to one offering van rides to Pattaya and get a ticket for a van ride to Pattaya. My memory is now a little clouded, but keep your ticket visible and head outside towards the vans that are lined up and eventually you will get directed to one. A bit confusing, but it works. And don't take your time getting a ticket! There are only so many vans and so many taxies, and I have seen a couple of people get left behind.
A taxi will get you to your hotel faster for more money, but the vans will get your there too, but you may be the last one off after many others are dropped off.Or if you do not mind spending a bit more, book a taxi from a reliable operator. VR Taxi operated by a guy named Keak is a good bet. Charges 800 one way.
As far as I am concerned, all of these broads came from the same place (planting crops in bum fuck Esan) and most of them will eventually end up in the same place (pushing around a food cart).
Truer words have not been said Mr E. I have only been to Pattaya 2 times and I will never work out the Thai girl mind set. I have sat in a near empty a gogo and not one girl make eye contact with me. This happened in 3 in a row last month, I had just hit town horny as can be with about 24000 Baht burning a hole in my pocket! In frustration as leaving the third place I pulled out 10,000 and showed the girls gathered around the door. 3 asked for drinks and I impolitely told them to f&ck off.
You have to remember these girls have little to no education and there idea of a business plan is easy money fast and tomorrow doesn't exist.
Rob.As opposed to one of the "bum fuck" rust belt states? Perhaps you should look at the way you dress and certainly the way you behave if the above is anything to go by.
Can't blame them now, can you? Look at the odds.
1. There are nearly 10,000 similar providers all available within a 2 km radius.
2. The average buyer is around for less than a week.
3. The lifestyle they lead is all about YOLO and materialism.
Why would they not go after money fast and easy? Especially when there is a sucker born every minute. I was reading the PI thread where one guy sent money to chick for her to finger herself online. She is now claiming she popped her cherry with her own finger and is demanding a payment for that.Hi Blanq.
When you look it at like that it does make sense. It is a lifestyle that I don't envy and at times I have trouble understanding the hardness that some of the girls display who seem to have everything going their way and the softness that is evident in others who should be bitter due to the cards that life has dealt them. I gave a keeper at the moment whose mum died and her father after scarring her back with cigarette burns took off was raised in an orphanage and at a young age thru sickness I think had a hysterectomy and therefore will be childless and knowing the importance of family to the Thais how hard this will be. Other then paying for services has she asked for extra money and has the sweetest disposition of anyone I have met.
Rob.
Of course they can say no. Same probably applies in a soapie. Even the ones that wave and smile at you will likely be mechanical with you. If she isn't even looking at you, they why would you want to pick her? Again, if you pick her anyway, she can probably refuse to see you. If not, expect a bad session!Sorry I meant at the soapy massages, they can't say "no." I was told by the managers, if they did reject a customer. They have to pay the cut from given to the business, out of their own pocket. Hate to tell you, but it's a crap shoot with soapies even if they have that enthusiasm look and wave at you anyways. Their job is to hustle. Don't think smiles and winks all equate to GFE. It doesn't. So if your goal is to bang the hottest girls, then when you get that chance, pick the hottest ones. If your goal is GFE but on a budget, then be prepared to settle for less when it comes to looks.
Franciscass
06-13-18, 05:37
I even offered her 50,000 baht for one night and I laid it all out on the table in front of me to show her I had the cash. Not smart MonkeyPaw, Flashing that much dosh in a club anywhere in the world is asking for trouble. Why even take that much venturing out? There are some expert dippers in Pattaya often lady boys who would more than happy to "take care of you".
Crocodilexp
06-13-18, 05:59
This girl there dislikes me so much that I even offered her 50,000 baht for one night and I laid it all out on the table in front of me to show her I had the cash.Paying 50 k baht for sex under the right circumstances is one thing, but I can't figure out why anyone in their right mind would make such an outsize offer in Pattaya knowing full well that the girl hates him and would almost certainly give him a crappy time even if she accepted the offer.
I also wonder exactly how odious a guy has to be to get refused by a hooker while offering 20-50 times the going rate. Of course, if she were a regular girl, it would be entirely different, but she's a hooker in a hooker disco and regularly takes plenty of dick (and not necessarily from super-hot-amazing guys) for way less. What could have possibly caused her to hate you so much?
Mr. E gave pricing, but this is how you find the vans. Enter the terminal after deplaning and get your luggage. When you exit the luggage area, you will pass through a room with several vendors selling tickets for the vans and, I suppose, taxis. I don't think it matters which vendor you go to. Go to one offering van rides to Pattaya and get a ticket for a van ride to Pattaya. My memory is now a little clouded, but keep your ticket visible and head outside towards the vans that are lined up and eventually you will get directed to one. A bit confusing, but it works. And don't take your time getting a ticket! There are only so many vans and so many taxies, and I have seen a couple of people get left behind.
A taxi will get you to your hotel faster for more money, but the vans will get your there too, but you may be the last one off after many others are dropped off.I find for 1000 for a taxi it is worth every baht. If there is 2 of you 500 Baht each! In Sydney that wouldn't get you out of the airport, so going for a 1 1/2 trip it is great.
I am flying into pattaya airport. How much is it to go to beach road? How far is It? I will have a suitcase and a duffle bag so motorbike taxi is probably not going to work. Anything different I should know compared to flying into bjj?
Thanks for the help and advice.Hey man,
Not sure what your budget is but Cherry Taxi is based in Pattaya, they have fairly new cars and charge 800 baht from Utapao. The dude will stand there with a sign. It is 1000 from BKK. Always reliable.
Cheers.
http://www.cherrytaxiservice.com/
Paying 50 k baht for sex under the right circumstances is one thing, but I can't figure out why anyone in their right mind would make such an outsize offer in Pattaya knowing full well that the girl hates him and would almost certainly give him a crappy time even if she accepted the offer.
I also wonder exactly how odious a guy has to be to get refused by a hooker while offering 20-50 times the going rate. Of course, if she were a regular girl, it would be entirely different, but she's a hooker in a hooker disco and regularly takes plenty of dick (and not necessarily from super-hot-amazing guys) for way less. What could have possibly caused her to hate you so much?I know for most board members it's hard to comprehend. But you have to realize that I'm on a totally different playing field than most if not all customers. For one, I don't have to worry too much about money and I don't work. My life is just play and I enjoy doing so with girls, especially the hustling type, as with strippers. All this, is thanks to my dad in Hong Kong. I am not unattractive either by any means and I have experience in this type underground lifestyle of party, sex, and drugs my entire life. So it's easy for me to relate to these girls and their life. I don't come from money, but rather from power. I have a reputation on Walking Street amongst the go go bars and the girls who work there. One is that I'm a "playboy" who has a lot of money. I am generous on money, safe, kind, but kinky as fuck when it comes to sex. And lastly, don't ever get attached to me because I have so many girls. I like to play around with these go go bar girls emotions some times, especially girls who think they have a "golden pussy."
The thing is that when I first came on the scene on Walking Street, I was able to go into any Go Go bar and take "any" of the top girls of my own choosing. I did this repeatedly and always got the first choice girls which were considered the hottest in the go go bars. They all wanted to play that "let me try to get him as MY customer" game. Meaning that I was 'hands off' to the other girls if the hottest girl I picked was able to seduce me long term by giving me the best experience. I used the girls jealousy with each other and egos amongst one another to play them all out. So after 3 years on Walking Street and hundreds of go go bar girls, my reputation proceeds me. I've only been turned down maybe 4 times. They even refused to come for a drink. I'm sure they have their reasons why but I assume.
1. They don't go with customers but rather hustle them for drinks like #174 of Palace. But they know my reputation and don't want to play with me. I just lay the money on the table and if they wany to avoid the hustling part, and make some money, they can come sit and then we go bang.
2. I've banged their best friend or real sister and they don't want to been looked as like another girl on my list. There are 3 blood sisters who work Sapphire. I was lucky to bang 2 out of the 3, Ae and Lala. The third refused me.
3. Also these girls know I like to play kinky with them by stories told from other girls. Some may be scared shitless. So it still amazes me, that it's only been 4 and all in the last 6 months, who have rejected me. These weren't even my top choice after 3 years.
4. They know I have a tendency to be blunt. I've told girls the truth about their weight, bad nose jobs, bad silicone jobs etc. Etc. I've even sat with their co-workers and talk shit about the girls dancing on stage.
There is also this side that if I don't like you for something you did, I will embarrass you. Also I have been known for making it rain yee sip baht many many times, but if I didn't like a particular girl for giving me a previous crappy experience, I tell mamasan that she isn't allowed to catch any of the money. Also she can't leave the stage and pretend to go to the bathroom either. There has been instances at What's Up and Baccara, where I've changed out 15,000 baht in 20's. I told the mamasan and wait staff, a specific girl or two wasn't allowed to catch any of the money when I made it rain. And if the mamasan refused my request, I will take the 15,000 baht somewhere else. Sure enough, the power of peer pressure and greed sunk in, and the girl or girls, I singled out, had to just stand there looking stupid while 15,000 baht of 20's was raining all on stage. The look on their faces was priceless. The other girls dancing next to them would also slap them asking "why aren't they catching the money?" Funny as hell.
Other instances, I have been known to have rang the bell and buy all the girls dancing on stage a drink "except for one. " At first the mamasan told me I cannot do. I told her, "you want to bet?" Let me talk to the manager, better yet, let me Facebook the owner and tell him you don't want me to spend 5000 baht on drinks in less than a minute by ringing the bell, all to protect the emotions of a single girl who gave me a shitty experience. Long story short. When they brought the trays of shots to the stage, it's hilarious to see that specific girl reaching for a glass, but service telling her that she cannot grab one and then point at me. Then she gets stared by all her friends and the entire club to see why she is just standing off to the side while every other girls on stage is giving me "cheers."
Don't feel too bad for any of this girls I pick on. They are the top end ones who think they have a "golden pussy." I'm sure you guys have ran into them before. It's just unfortunate for them, they haven't really met a guy like me who can play harder than them. It still amazes me that, even with these stories shared on Walking Street about my antics that I can still barfine 99.9% of the girls today. My crazy "Fifty Shades is Blue" life. Who else can hog tie and bang 4 Thai bridesmaids at one wedding?
Banana Boi
06-13-18, 10:13
Or if you do not mind spending a bit more, book a taxi from a reliable operator. VR Taxi operated by a guy named Keak is a good bet. Charges 800 one way.Keak charges 1100 now up from 1000 a couple months ago. They claim higher toll rates for the increase. I believe the toll increase from Suvarnahumi to Pattaya was nominal.
We have monthly discussions about taxi prices from Suvarnabhumi. What are the best companies for taxi from Bangkok Sukhumvit area or DMK? Keak charges 1400 and 1700, respectively. The multiple female taxi companies charge 100 baht more.
With all due respect to Mr. T fans, I'm not interested in using them again. Used Mr. T twice and got scum of the earth sleazeball taxi drivers. Got into an argument with one at DMK who left me stranded for over 30 minutes then had the odacity to say he was there all the time while my concurrent Line messages with Mr. T confirm he went to the wrong location.
Mr Enternational
06-13-18, 12:09
I find for 1000 for a taxi it is worth every baht. If there is 2 of you 500 Baht each! In Sydney that wouldn't get you out of the airport, so going for a 1 1/2 trip it is great.Only problem is that Thailand is not Australia and it does not cost 1000 baht to go from Pattaya to Utapao no matter how great of a deal it seems to you. Neither is it a 1.5 hour trip. Me and 2 friends took a taxi to the airport for 750 baht in December.
Banana Boi
06-13-18, 12:23
Only problem is that Thailand is not Australia and it does not cost 1000 baht to go from Pattaya to Utapao no matter how great of a deal it seems to you. I believe he was referring Pattaya to/from Suvarnabhumi. At least I hope he was cause that's a lot to UTP.
Mr Enternational
06-13-18, 12:31
I believe he was referring Pattaya to/from Suvarnabhumi. At least I hope he was cause that's a lot to UTP.Ok. But the poster that asked the original question was referring to you-tapao. 1000 would definitely be the normal price from Swampy.
Ok. But the poster that asked the original question was referring to you-tapao. 1000 would definitely be the normal price from Swampy.Just a tad cheaper from you-tapao. Adding some other logistic issues, that airport is not yet convenient for the individual traveler.
Mainly used by armies of passengers of Chinese charter flights.
God bless you if you arrive just a few minutes after them at immigration.
Mr Enternational
06-13-18, 13:27
Just a tad cheaper from you-tapao. Adding some other logistic issues, that airport is not yet convenient for the individual traveler.
Mainly used by armies of passengers of Chinese charter flights.
God bless you if you arrive just a few minutes after them at immigration.Depends on where a person is coming from. Utapao has domestic flights as well. When I went it was for a trip to/from Phuket. The only "normal" international flight that I know is Qatar to and from Doha.
Blanquiceleste
06-13-18, 14:40
Hi Blanq.
When you look it at like that it does make sense. It is a lifestyle that I don't envy and at times I have trouble understanding the hardness that some of the girls display who seem to have everything going their way and the softness that is evident in others who should be bitter due to the cards that life has dealt them. I gave a keeper at the moment whose mum died and her father after scarring her back with cigarette burns took off was raised in an orphanage and at a young age thru sickness I think had a hysterectomy and therefore will be childless and knowing the importance of family to the Thais how hard this will be. Other then paying for services has she asked for extra money and has the sweetest disposition of anyone I have met.
Rob.I have had similar experiences with girls. Perhaps it is due to religious beliefs and culture. Asian cultures believe in Karma and Reincarnation. So the girl has has all her chips down in life probably believes that this is the fruit of her past sins in another life and in this life she must atone silently with a smile in order to achieve salvation (Moksha). OTOH the girl who has it going but behaves like a total ***** is possibly just one cycle behind, caught up in the daze and addiction of materialism and success, lest realizing what path she is on.
Blanquiceleste
06-13-18, 14:46
Just a tad cheaper from you-tapao. Adding some other logistic issues, that airport is not yet convenient for the individual traveler.
Mainly used by armies of passengers of Chinese charter flights.
God bless you if you arrive just a few minutes after them at immigration.Lmao. I know a BM who took a SIN. UTP flight once which landed just after two such charter flights (747's) landed. The arrival hall was so packed that a quite a few passengers had to actually wait outside the terminal doors under the hot sun for nearly 30 min before they stepped through the doors. Needless to say it took him over 3 hours to get past immigration.
BTW there are no direct flights to UTP from SIN anymore. I guess there was no sustainable demand from the red dot.
Depends on where a person is coming from. Utapao has domestic flights as well. When I went it was for a trip to/from Phuket. The only "normal" international flight that I know is Qatar to and from Doha.You are correct. But of that Qatar flight lands after a Chinese charter. You are done!
Of cuourse any domestic flight is not affected.
Schedules for some domestic are not ideal anyhow. Looking at the DMK and BKK domestic options, plus the quick taxi rides from either airport, the time saving might be 15 minutes and the cost saving 200 baht. Not worth IMHO.
UTapao is the typical sednd or third airport of a big city, trying to find a niche in the market with charter or low cost flights (no demanding passengers) cheap rates for airlines, bottom type of facilities.
You can't blame the airport handler to try a business opportunity, on the other hand, to save them from oblivion.
Flying into utp was about $250 cheaper one way. Coming from usa the best price I found flying into bkk was about $750 to $800. Flying into utp cost me $502.
You are correct. But of that Qatar flight lands after a Chinese charter. You are done!
Of cuourse any domestic flight is not affected.
Schedules for some domestic are not ideal anyhow. Looking at the DMK and BKK domestic options, plus the quick taxi rides from either airport, the time saving might be 15 minutes and the cost saving 200 baht. Not worth IMHO.
UTapao is the typical sednd or third airport of a big city, trying to find a niche in the market with charter or low cost flights (no demanding passengers) cheap rates for airlines, bottom type of facilities.
You can't blame the airport handler to try a business opportunity, on the other hand, to save them from oblivion.
A BM was celebrating a special occasion and decided at the last minute to give Soi 6 a try near closing time. After 3 passes he sees a moderately attractive lass named Sai who is 26 years old in front of Quicky Bar. After a drink / interview he eventually elects to hire her. She says initially 300 for room and 1000 for her. The BM gives her 1 k and she runs off maybe to settle some debts / pay a trike boyfriend / splurge her newfound windfall. She says she will return in 5 minutes. But comes back in 2 minutes. In the meantime he gives the mamas an 350. After a satisfying romp he gives her a 40 baht tip. She gets hysterical. Saying she is only getting 700 for her body and needs another 700. After walking down a few steps the BM explains he has paid mamas an for the room. After a couple minutes she talks to mama and says everything is ok. The BM is nervous and hoping things don't turn ugly. After she calms down he gives her an additional 100 and makes a mental note not to hire her again. The top choice at Quicky is free. He has had his eye on Tik the sub 5 feet spinner for a couple hours. She is also 26. He asks if she is barfineable not sure if they will accept bar fine. It is 30 minutes. Before closing. They tell him 500 and she go to your room. Despite her small dimensions she does not run from big American cocks. Amazing! She probably has been with many 6 feet plus Westerners. The session with Tik is great. I give her 200 for a taxi home. Unless there is a different shift / new girls I probably will not be barfining in Quicky after that creepy exchange. I would buy drinks though. BTW Beach Rd. Talent was pathetic tonight.
I know for most board members it's hard to comprehend. But you have to realize that I'm on a totally different playing field than most if not all customers. For one, I don't have to worry too much about money and I don't work. My life is just play and I enjoy doing so with girls, especially the hustling type, as with strippers. All this, is thanks to my dad in Hong Kong. I am not unattractive either by any means and I have experience in this type underground lifestyle of party, sex, and drugs my entire life. So it's easy for me to relate to these girls and their life. I don't come from money, but rather from power. I have a reputation on Walking Street amongst the go go bars and the girls who work there. One is that I'm a "playboy" who has a lot of money. I am generous on money, safe, kind, but kinky as fuck when it comes to sex. And lastly, don't ever get attached to me because I have so many girls. I like to play around with these go go bar girls emotions some times, especially girls who think they have a "golden pussy."
The thing is that when I first came on the scene on Walking Street, I was able to go into any Go Go bar and take "any" of the top girls of my own choosing..If your so loaded Why do you need Thailand? Why didn't you open your own go gos? Why not stunt in BKK or Las Vegas like Mayweather? 50% of this board could make it rain $500 in 30 minutes. We are just seasoned and not trying to take care of the girls / boyfriends / families. We understand the economics of Patts. I'll take your word for it. That would be a tie for my record. I've never seen anyone in Asia make it rain more than $500 USD in 30 minutes. 10 k USD would be more impressive. You are behaving like a poor man's rock star.
MySecretLife
06-13-18, 20:33
Blanquiceleste sir,
I don't know you're from which country, I am from India. You have nicely described Indian rather Eastern philosophy of Karma, Reincarnation and Moksha / Mukthi / Liberarion.
I am pleasantly surprised to see such a discussion on this forum and I am amused by your crisp explanation of our philosophy.
Have a good one!
Best,
MI.
I have had similar experiences with girls. Perhaps it is due to religious beliefs and culture. Asian cultures believe in Karma and Reincarnation. So the girl has has all her chips down in life probably believes that this is the fruit of her past sins in another life and in this life she must atone silently with a smile in order to achieve salvation (Moksha). OTOH the girl who has it going but behaves like a total ***** is possibly just one cycle behind, caught up in the daze and addiction of materialism and success, lest realizing what path she is on.
Dude. I am not White either. I am Black. Ain't shit expected. If anything, they will want more money from a White guy because they ASSUME he has more money than you! Think about it. If me and Bill Gates walked in to your store, you would try to sell the same item to him for more than you would to me because you pretty much figure he is not only able, but also willing to pay it.
It is not what they are asking; it is what you negotiate. Look back over my posts and you can see screenshotted examples of where I negotiated with the girl. Hell, one chick even came for 500 LT after a few days earlier initially asking 2000 LT. Then before she left the next afternoon, she said she would be back the day after, but I had to hold her at bay so I could fit other chicks in.
But if you are willing to shell out 3.5K (obviously you have more money than me) you should be able to get anybody you want in Pattaya. I have never even heard something like that drop out of a chick's mouth unless it was an expensive ass gogo. And if you get them to listen to themselves while they say a figure like that, it will even sound ridiculous to them. The same way that it does not hurt her asking for a higher price, it does not hurt you asking for a lower one. As far as I am concerned, all of these broads came from the same place (planting crops in bum fuck Esan) and most of them will eventually end up in the same place (pushing around a food cart). There is nothing special that one has over the other; otherwise they wouldn't be in Pattaya selling ass!I'm semi-picky. You should be able to get a network of 7's for 1 k at the discos. I am not old or bald. My issue is I overthink things in recent years. Would I shell out 3.5 k for an 8.5? Yes, but in rare cases. Most of the time I'll bang 3 7's for the price of one 8 at a top disco. Setting up dates with hotties and cutting the bar out takes time. This board gives you everything you need to know in economics and what's fair value. Me and Mr. E have a friend who can sit on airfare rates and just swoops in and buys his 4 tickets in one swoop for the year. He chuckles because he is paying half of what unprepared mongers are paying. He then applies the savings to lodging, meals, and girls. Far be it from me to be cheap Charlie. However, I'm not letting girls exploit me. If a chick burns her bridge with me she has to live with the consequences. Like someone already put it. If these single mothers were all that they wouldn't be in the disco 6 nights a week. The extreme end would be not returning to Patts. Can I pull the top 10 baddest chicks in 808? Besides 2 k would be my max offer for my fave disco chicks. The most I paid was 1300ST and that was my first session. No. Their friends have messed up my rep. I had a chick lie and say I banged her. In actuality I spent 3 k on a date, realized I didn't want to was 5 k and cut my losses. Some chicks get off being mean to the nice guys. Finally, say I pulled my fave disco chick. I would be at a disadvantage because she could give a wack session or clock watch.
I believe he was referring Pattaya to/from Suvarnabhumi. At least I hope he was cause that's a lot to UTP.Sorry to be vague but yes from Suvarnabhumi to Pattaya. No idea where the other place is LOL. I would rather pay 500 more for comfort and convenience of a taxi instead of being herded onto a mini van. And as often proved on this forum people's perception of good value differ. I'm a casual visitor where 1000ST represents great value. I wouldn't even bother to try to negotiate for less. Someone from a less fortunate encomony will have to barter the girl down to 800 to sustain their resources for their holiday and I know there is a pride culture amongst permanent residents about paying overs.
Thanks for the feedback guys.
Sorry to be vague but yes from Suvarnabhumi to Pattaya. No idea where the other place is LOL. I would rather pay 500 more for comfort and convenience of a taxi instead of being herded onto a mini van. And as often proved on this forum people's perception of good value differ. I'm a casual visitor where 1000ST represents great value. I wouldn't even bother to try to negotiate for less. Someone from a less fortunate encomony will have to barter the girl down to 800 to sustain their resources for their holiday and I know there is a pride culture amongst permanent residents about paying overs.
Thanks for the feedback guys.I would never ever take a minivan if I can avoid it. They drive like crazy. But the bus at 130 Baht is a real option I find equally comfortable to a taxi. UTP is Utapao (Pattaya) airport.
If your so loaded Why do you need Thailand? Why didn't you open your own go gos? Why not stunt in BKK or Las Vegas like Mayweather? 50% of this board could make it rain $500 in 30 minutes. We are just seasoned and not trying to take care of the girls / boyfriends / families. We understand the economics of Patts. I'll take your word for it. That would be a tie for my record. I've never seen anyone in Asia make it rain more than $500 USD in 30 minutes. 10 k USD would be more impressive. You are behaving like a poor man's rock star.Did you really bring up Floyd Mayweather? Even with all his money and status, his choice of strippers and looks is rather funky. I rather stick to my taste in girls. Guess God didn't bless everyone with the sense of what beauty is. As I mentioned, I come from a different playing field as you. If you, me, and Floyd walked into Sensations Bar with only 5,000 baht each. Let's see who gets out of that club with the hottest girl for 5,000 baht. Pricing by the way is 1500 barfine, 3000 for ST, rest is for drinks. That's the difference in power versus money. I mentioned I come from power not money. Anyways, even if o had enough money to open a Go Go bar? Why? So I can work? So I can stress out? I don't work. I travel and bang sexy girls everyday. Told you that you wouldn't understand. So once again, look at your "boy" Floyd's girls and look at mine. To each his or her own definitely. But that's why there is a heaven and a hell. Angels and demons. Beautiful and ugly. Get the picture?
I believe you. Just saying it's harder to stunt in NY, Vegas, Miami, and LA. Plus more to do. I hope you score all the trophy girls. We have different priorities & objectives. I rather drive around Patts in a new Bentley or Lamborghini than score the hottest working girl.
Did you really bring up Floyd Mayweather? Even with all his money and status, his choice of strippers and looks is rather funky. I rather stick to my taste in girls. Guess God didn't bless everyone with the sense of what beauty is. As I mentioned, I come from a different playing field as you. If you, me, and Floyd walked into Sensations Bar with only 5,000 baht each. Let's see who gets out of that club with the hottest girl for 5,000 baht. Pricing by the way is 1500 barfine, 3000 for ST, rest is for drinks. That's the difference in power versus money. I mentioned I come from power not money. Anyways, even if o had enough money to open a Go Go bar? Why? So I can work? So I can stress out? I don't work. I travel and bang sexy girls everyday. Told you that you wouldn't understand. So once again, look at your "boy" Floyd's girls and look at mine. To each his or her own definitely. But that's why there is a heaven and a hell. Angels and demons. Beautiful and ugly. Get the picture?Floyd went to Panama and pulled Miss Panama. Maybe if he came here he could pull Miss Universe or Miss Thailand.
Floyd went to Panama and pulled Miss Panama. Maybe if he came here he could pull Miss Universe or Miss Thailand.Floyd came to Thailand this year or last year. FYI.
Crocodilexp
06-15-18, 16:35
I like to play around with these go go bar girls emotions some times, especially girls who think they have a "golden pussy."
I told the mamasan and wait staff, a specific girl or two wasn't allowed to catch any of the money when I made it rain. And if the mamasan refused my request, I will take the 15,000 baht somewhere else.
Other instances, I have been known to have rang the bell and buy all the girls dancing on stage a drink "except for one." From what you're saying, I gather you get off on humiliating people. We all have different fetishes, and obviously, many people would disapprove of this particular one. Thais are culturally not too fond of clearly deliberate attempts to make others lose face in public, so it does explain why that one hooker refused 50 k baht.
From what you're saying, I gather you get off on humiliating people. We all have different fetishes, and obviously, many people would disapprove of this particular one. Thais are culturally not too fond of clearly deliberate attempts to make others lose face in public, so it does explain why that one hooker refused 50 k baht.Sounds like the golden penis syndrome. Quite deflating when the golden pussy won't let you in.
From what you're saying, I gather you get off on humiliating people. We all have different fetishes, and obviously, many people would disapprove of this particular one. Thais are culturally not too fond of clearly deliberate attempts to make others lose face in public, so it does explain why that one hooker refused 50 k baht.Actually tonight I was at What's Up and asked her again for a drink. She agreed and we talked a bit. She said to me the reason last time she did not want to come was that her best friend #99 already went with me. #99 is now on holiday, so tonight it only cost me 5,000 not 50 K anymore for her company. So now it's only 3 girls on Walking Street who have ever refused. #174 at Palace, #108 Baccara, and the model I posted a pic of from Iron. If anybody has better luck with them, please do share.
Actually tonight I was at What's Up and asked her again for a drink. She agreed and we talked a bit. She said to me the reason last time she did not want to come was that her best friend #99 already went with me. #99 is now on holiday, so tonight it only cost me 5,000 not 50 K anymore for her company. So now it's only 3 girls on Walking Street who have ever refused. #174 at Palace, #108 Baccara, and the model I posted a pic of from Iron. If anybody has better luck with them, please do share.I am curious why you didn't honor her with your 50 k offer? Seems to me she had a very honorable reason for last time and 50k is nothing to you.
Floyd came to Thailand this year or last year. FYI.He was in Phuket in Dec 2017 and legend has it that he was serviced by a Yingluck girl for less than 50K Baht.
https://coconuts.co/bangkok/news/floyd-mayweather-living-best-life-phuket-vacation-instagrams/
Actually tonight I was at What's Up and asked her again for a drink. She agreed and we talked a bit. She said to me the reason last time she did not want to come was that her best friend #99 already went with me. #99 is now on holiday, so tonight it only cost me 5,000 not 50 K anymore for her company. So now it's only 3 girls on Walking Street who have ever refused. #174 at Palace, #108 Baccara, and the model I posted a pic of from Iron. If anybody has better luck with them, please do share.The girls you find are more honourable then mine! I repeated with a girl 3 times last visit where by the third encounter she an idea in her head that I will be hers and hers only. The morning after the 3rd encounter she said was her day off and we could do things together all that day and night! No thanks my last night in Pattaya and was meeting with another BM so said I was busy doing stuff with my friend. I ended up at the a gogo she works at to barfine a girl I have had a good time with before who happens to be her friend and before we had even left the building I'm getting messages from her telling me what a $$I am for my poor behaviour. I asked the girl with me how she found out so fast and she said she sent her a message. LOL.
I am curious why you didn't honor her with your 50 k offer? Seems to me she had a very honorable reason for last time and 50k is nothing to you.The girl was never worth 50,000 baht. She knew it, mamasan knew it, and the wait staff knew it. And I've always known that. I've been a customer there for almost 3 years. During that time, she and all the girls working both upstairs at Imagine and downstairs at What's Up has seen me and my "associates" do things like make it rain 20's, take 100 bahts roll them up and using a rubber band to shoot them painfully at the asses of the girls on stage (one night we did about 20,000 baht worth of 100's), tip $20's USD to the lady handing out towels in the next to the sink, made it rain in the DJ booth for his birthday, and buy and throw ping pong balls at the groups of Chinese tourists who take up too much space and bring their old wives to come stare down the girls and then leave, and of course seen me already barfined so many models and dancers at both clubs. For that night that I made the offer (if you go back and read my post), I was messing around. I knew she disliked me. After 3 years, I never even winked at her. For some reason, that night I saw her sitting with #99 and felt kind of bad. She's not bad looking, but not as slim as I would like even though she has silicones to balance her ass out. I already knew that #99 was her best friend there. #99 and I had a not so good experience. I just wanted to see if I can break her ego and maybe create some drama. This is how people entertain me. Is she willing to not come talk to me and go sit with a "lesser" customer or sit alone and not make any money? She chose her ego to not come and sit alone without a customer. So I decided to make her look stupid by laying out 50,000 and pointed at my lap. All the girls in there looked at her. Some told me, if she didn't want to, can they go? They will even throw in a Buy 1 get 5 girls free offer. Haha funny.
The most I've ever paid a Thai girl was 15,000 for 24 hours and she was a lipstick lesbian and super hot more than this girl. The most I've ever paid a girl period was $900 USD for a Swiss girl who starred in rock music videos in Zurich. So even being ushered by the wait staff, the What's Up girl still refused. I think she was smart to have done this. I like to play with the smarter girls from time to time. She knew I was going to embarrass her for always rolling her eyes at me. Honestly, if she took the offer, I would have just given her a drink and told her that "I thought you were a bit thinner from far away. And since that's not the case, you can go back and smoke with #99 in the back after this drink. " I don't mind spreading the wealth and doing charity by banging the "not" super hot girls like her. They just better act better than they do sometimes. So when it so happened that the night that I was able to get her for just 5,000, she definitely acted nicer and broke down her own ego. Another girl who works there told me that after I left that night. The attention that was brought to the 50,000 What's Up girl made her feel special as she was in the spotlight. A lot of girls told her "he must really like you. " Remember girls always look at the next girl they work with and try to compare themselves. And maybe that's part of the reason why she went with me the second time around. By the way, the experience in itself with her was better than her friend #99, but nothing to write home about. BUT perhaps everything I did and all of this was just a part of "MY GAME" being played. I keep telling folks on here that it's not easy to have this list of girls that you have your eyes set on. And to be able to check them off one-by-one on the list you better be a real game player. And still today, I have not paid out a crazy amount of money to any of the "top" Go Go bar girls.
AdvancedPerson
06-16-18, 22:38
Hey fellow mongers,
A subject a bit out of the blue but would really appreciate some feedback for experienced travelers.
I've been to Pattaya 3 times in the past 3 years and going again in 2 weeks but I'm facing a dilemma.
I've always brought my shisha (water pipe) and tobacco with me with no issues. But this time, with all the news I'm reading, and the consequences, I'd like to know if they are actually enforcing this.
Could they actually fine me or even worst, jail me straight from the airport just for bringing it with me?
From what I've read in the past few threads, there are still shisha places available in Pattaya. So is is just news or will this cause me headaches beyond the point of return?
Some feedback would be much appreciated!
Hey fellow mongers,
A subject a bit out of the blue but would really appreciate some feedback for experienced travelers.
I've been to Pattaya 3 times in the past 3 years and going again in 2 weeks but I'm facing a dilemma.
I've always brought my shisha (water pipe) and tobacco with me with no issues. But this time, with all the news I'm reading, and the consequences, I'd like to know if they are actually enforcing this.
Could they actually fine me or even worst, jail me straight from the airport just for bringing it with me?
From what I've read in the past few threads, there are still shisha places available in Pattaya. So is is just news or will this cause me headaches beyond the point of return?
Some feedback would be much appreciated!Two answers here.
1/ if you think there is a risk don't do it!
2/ is there a website regarding what is permissible to bring to Thailand? If so read it and base your decision on that.
Being of a cautious nature I would inclined to leave it at home and be safe.
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I have been struggling with Monkey Paws post and find it disturbing that he gets off on humiliating the girls in such establishments. If that is power I am happy I don't have to wield it in such a way to prove I have it. I found it disturbing too but I find almost all of his posts disturbing.
Some day he will pay the price for this, even when he 'comes from power' as he puts it. What goes around comes around.
Or as Confucius said: don't do unto others what you don't want done unto you.
I found it disturbing too but I find almost all of his posts disturbing.
Some day he will pay the price for this, even when he 'comes from power' as he puts it. What goes around comes around.
Or as Confucius said: don't do unto others what you don't want done unto you.Ignore him and he will go away again.
Franciscass
06-17-18, 06:14
I was at Best GoGo last night with a wad full of cash when no 337 came to sit with me. We chatted and she was really turned on by my game and told me she couldn't wait to get me in the sack. We discussed price and when she asked me how much I said 20000 and all of a sudden the mood changed. I asked what's wrong, she said you offered 25000 to no 488 last night. I asked her how she knew, she said no 118 who is a friend of no 224 heard it from no 668 a sister of no 442 who shares a room with no 488. She was super cute and what's an extra 5 k between friends so off we went but not before I tipped no 553 and no 554 a g. Note each. Just as well I have a good head for numbers eh! Hope my game is as good again tonight.
Franciscass
06-17-18, 06:17
I found it disturbing too but I find almost all of his posts disturbing.
Some day he will pay the price for this, even when he 'comes from power' as he puts it. What goes around comes around.
Or as Confucius said: don't do unto others what you don't want done unto you.Remember the explanation for Russian hacking that it was some 400 lb kid in his mum's basement.
Blanquiceleste
06-17-18, 07:47
I found it disturbing too but I find almost all of his posts disturbing.
Some day he will pay the price for this, even when he 'comes from power' as he puts it. What goes around comes around.
Or as Confucius said: don't do unto others what you don't want done unto you.I was just about to write the exact same thing.
Shame on a guy who gets off by humiliating poor uneducated farm girls by throwing money around. I hope he gets mugged in an alleyway.
Banana Boi
06-17-18, 07:53
I think if anyone makes a 50k offer for a night with a Thai girl the girl, mamasan, and the customer all know it is being done in gist. No girl would really expect that sort of money unless she's a top Bangkok actress.
I've always brought my shisha (water pipe) and tobacco with me with no issues. But this time, with all the news I'm reading, and the consequences, I'd like to know if they are actually enforcing this.
Could they actually fine me or even worst, jail me straight from the airport just for bringing it with me?
From what I've read in the past few threads, there are still shisha places available in Pattaya. So is is just news or will this cause me headaches beyond the point of return?
I wouldn't do it. Just ask your Thai girls where to go for shisha if you want it. Gogo girls have taken me to a few places, all run by ex-cops. With no connections they will eventually get busted.
StrikeHard
06-17-18, 11:52
Will be glad to see some digits to foreign workers in Pattaya. Spending some nights there. Thanks.
It depends on you, the girl, and the bar. There's a lot of variation. For example you can find a girl in a bar like Heaven Above who might do a short time in the hotel right next door for 1000 Baht. Or you might walk over to a bar like Palace where one of the so called "models" on stage will ask for a 3000 Baht barfine and another 3000 for herself for the same kind of activity! At the same time there are girls working in some of these expensive go go bars that will go bang a guy after work for as little as 500 Baht or even for free, believe it or not.
A lot new guys with little experience seem to get hit with the highest quotes, and from what I've seen they usually pay them too. That's what those cards with "5000 Baht" or whatever written on them that some of the aggressive mamasans carry around are for.I hear that at Hollywood disco the girl ask 10000 B for LT. Is it true?
I was just about to write the exact same thing.
Shame on a guy who gets off by humiliating poor uneducated farm girls by throwing money around. I hope he gets mugged in an alleyway.It must be devastating when these farm girls won't even go with you for 50 k. I doubt if he offered 50 k in a joking manner. He upped his offer after a series of rejections. Can you imagine someone in a bar fanning out 50 k to a girl?
I don't hope for a mugging but a divesture of his holdings would be appropriate.
At the very least go back and make good on his offer and pay her the additional 45k. Be a honorable man.
Btw, max paying of 15k baht or $900 does not make someone a big shot. All this spells out is WANNA BE!
Mr Enternational
06-17-18, 17:23
Just ask your Thai girls where to go for shisha if you want it. Gogo girls have taken me to a few places, all run by ex-cops. With no connections they will eventually get busted.They have it at Flexx as well as some of the Arabs places on Soi 16 (or 15). The one by Marine Hotel. Soi Yensabai and Soi VC too.
Member #4698
06-17-18, 19:51
It must be devastating when these farm girls won't even go with you for 50 k. I doubt if he offered 50 k in a joking manner. He upped his offer after a series of rejections. Can you imagine someone in a bar fanning out 50 k to a girl?
I don't hope for a mugging but a divesture of his holdings would be appropriate.
Btw, max paying of 15k baht or $900 does not make someone a big shot. All this spells out is WANNA BE!I think it is all hyperbole. Nobody in his right mind walks around drinking & barhopping with 50 K sticking out of his pocket. It's just asking for trouble. On the other hand, I have initially enjoyed reading Monkeypaw's tongue in cheek posts because I didn't take him too literally. I think his posts form a humorous counterweight to the "I never pay more that 1000 baht for hot young girls" posts one sees on the forum. At least Monkeypaw posts pictures of his girls. I don't know if his pics are genuine or not, but I find some of his girls are attractive and I like that. Time will tell if Monkeypaw is real or not.
Blanquiceleste
06-18-18, 01:16
I think it is all hyperbole. Nobody in his right mind walks around drinking & barhopping with 50 K sticking out of his pocket. It's just asking for trouble. On the other hand, I have initially enjoyed reading Monkeypaw's tongue in cheek posts because I didn't take him too literally. I think his posts form a humorous counterweight to the "I never pay more that 1000 baht for hot young girls" posts one sees on the forum. At least Monkeypaw posts pictures of his girls. I don't know if his pics are genuine or not, but I find some of his girls are attractive and I like that. Time will tell if Monkeypaw is real or not.Hi NB.
I really appreciate you "voice of reason" on the forum. I too had similar opinions about MP initially, but when this attitude shows up post after post, on thread after thread, one starts to wonder. A picture speaks a 1000 words, yes. But then in the age of the internet, anyone can rake up half a dozen pictures of hot looking girls from a a variety of sources and claim them to be "my girls". A few posts back, MP also suggests that anyone making a post here without a picture is is a fiction writer. Now that is just plain immature. Now, that said if you take the time to browse through MP's post history, he does have some pics of good looking girls, presumably in his room. Good for him.
As for the money, there are plenty of guys in Thailand who blow that sort of money. The Japs and Koreans do it to show their status among their friends. If they have it let them flaunt it. But to do that only to humiliate WGs is sick.
Ignore him and he will go away again.As soon as MonkeyPaw identified some of us as fully capable of pointing out the many, many "tells" in his posts giving away that they are mostly utter bullshit he quickly put us on Ignore. LOL. I don't think it is only about his boasting about fictitiously humiliating girls who likely really and truly wouldn't even have covered sex with him for the ordinary going rate if another potential offer was in the room, but also presumably about lording his fictitious claims over anyone on these boards who might fall for them.
I am a mid-60's year old dude who can't spend stupidly for very long and still live comfortably in Bangkok, yet I am so busy BB fucking and getting sucked to a genuine CIM finish by Thai girls (Bangkok girls, mind you, not Pattaya girls) whose photos would compare favorably with the photos I have seen posted by him that I barely have time to write and post reports here at all, much less go into dramatic detail about who said what and how everybody felt about what a master gamer I am along the way. Is it really news and educational for anyone to find out if you give a P4P girl 5,000+ baht and are willing to offer as much as 50,000 baht after splurging on drinks for your hoped for girl and her friends all night you might get laid on the most basic level fairly regularly in Pattaya? Ok, then why not encourage him to continue entertaining those who need or like to read about it. What the hell.
Mr Enternational
06-18-18, 02:30
As soon as MonkeyPaw identified some of us as fully capable of pointing out the many, many "tells" in his posts giving away that they are mostly utter bullshit he quickly put us on Ignore. Ok, then why not encourage him to continue entertaining those who need or like to read about it. What the hell.Not so fast grasshopper. I do not have a dog in the fight, but I did go out with Rocky after he said he went out with MP. What Rocky told me pretty much lines up with the same shit MP posts about. Rocky said it was too much for him for he is a rather simple guy like myself. If that is his lane and that is what he enjoys then so be it. Personally I do not see the purpose of going above and beyond and think you are doing something special, when another punter can come in and get the same pussy for list price. We all have different methods to our own madness though.
Not so fast grasshopper. I do not have a dog in the fight, but I did go out with Rocky after he said he went out with MP. What Rocky told me pretty much lines up with the same shit MP posts about. Rocky said it was too much for him for he is a rather simple guy like myself. If that is his lane and that is what he enjoys then so be it. Personally I do not see the purpose of going above and beyond and think you are doing something special, when another punter can come in and get the same pussy for list price. We all have different methods to our own madness though.You mean the part about "give a P4P girl 5,000+ baht and are willing to offer as much as 50,000 baht after splurging on drinks for your hoped for girl and her friends all night you might get laid on the most basic level fairly regularly in Pattaya"?
Yes, I have no doubt every word of that is true. I would argue it is almost impossible for it not to be true of virtually anyone willing to do it that way even if they just tumbled out onto the airport tarmac on their first visit to Thailand yesterday.
btw, I assume Rocky didn't follow the loving couples into MP's hotel room and bedside to know exactly how things went down (or didn't) for that part of it, right?
Mr Enternational
06-18-18, 03:44
You mean the part about "give a P4P girl 5,000+ baht and are willing to offer as much as 50,000 baht after splurging on drinks for your hoped for girl and her friends all night you might get laid on the most basic level fairly regularly in Pattaya"?I don't know about that, but here is his bin from last night for all of you Cheap Charlies.
I don't know about that, but here is his bin from last night.LOL. And for that (and more, not listed on that bin), he wins bragging rights something like this:
By the way, the experience in itself with her was better than her friend #99, but nothing to write home about. BUT perhaps everything I did and all of this was just a part of "MY GAME" being played. I keep telling folks on here that it's not easy to have this list of girls that you have your eyes set on. And to be able to check them off one-by-one on the list you better be a real game player. And still today, I have not paid out a crazy amount of money to any of the "top" Go Go bar girls.
Not to stir trouble of take sides, but I do like reading the tale of how Rocky became king of the hill in bargain hunting over ME (sorry ME), even though there were no follow up reports.
As for the games MP plays, girls play that all the time. Even pros. In a way it is nice to see it come around. I often want to step in tell some of the young guys to dump the girl they are with because of all the manipulative mind games.
As others pointed out, picture is worth 1000 words. I took a side trip and went to some of the bars mentioned in MP's post. Did not have much time but the cast of characters appear to match some in the pictures. So who knows. It is not really a big deal for me as it is the reading that is more entertaining.
Not so fast grasshopper. I do not have a dog in the fight, but I did go out with Rocky after he said he went out with MP. What Rocky told me pretty much lines up with the same shit MP posts about. Rocky said it was too much for him for he is a rather simple guy like myself. If that is his lane and that is what he enjoys then so be it. Personally I do not see the purpose of going above and beyond and think you are doing something special, when another punter can come in and get the same pussy for list price. We all have different methods to our own madness though.
I think it is all hyperbole. Nobody in his right mind walks around drinking & barhopping with 50 K sticking out of his pocket. It's just asking for trouble. On the other hand, I have initially enjoyed reading Monkeypaw's tongue in cheek posts because I didn't take him too literally. I think his posts form a humorous counterweight to the "I never pay more that 1000 baht for hot young girls" posts one sees on the forum. At least Monkeypaw posts pictures of his girls. I don't know if his pics are genuine or not, but I find some of his girls are attractive and I like that. Time will tell if Monkeypaw is real or not.
Franciscass
06-18-18, 05:22
Here's my take. When a member decides he is going to create controversy with admittedly interesting but outlandish tales it begs the question why. As an observer of the human condition I suggest it's to be noticed and talked about which is exactly what this post is doing. It's a sad condition born out of low self esteem which may require therapy but fortunately for those afflicted it's relatively harmless.
Uncle Volodya
06-18-18, 06:15
I don't know about that, but here is his bin from last night for all of you Cheap Charlies.If he had a good raucus time then more power to him. Like the old saying goes, "I spent half my money on women and booze the rest I just wasted". 555.
If this was just to stoke his ego and impress WSG members then it is plain dumb and sad.
Banana Boi
06-18-18, 06:49
I don't know about that, but here is his bin from last night for all of you Cheap Charlies.Dude spent 94,000 at Queens? Must have poor taste in women. Went there last week because a friend asked why we never go to Queens. As we left I promised myself not to return to Queens for one year.
I hear that at Hollywood disco the girl ask 10000 B for LT. Is it true?Only if you're not appealing to them.
Like you Blanky, I have come to realize that a no posting pics policy is wise. Too many white knights around who will show the girl the pics if they recognize her. Has already happened to me on another forum (Pattaya Addicts). Girls get pissed and you burn bridges. So never again.
I will also never post a photo of any of my regular girls. I think I posted one photo (link below) on this site of a girl I was desperately searching for at Viper Bar in Pratumnak Hill. No responses. Still hope to bump into her one day.
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=240033&d=1462828422
I was at Best GoGo last night with a wad full of cash when no 337 came to sit with me. We chatted and she was really turned on by my game and told me she couldn't wait to get me in the sack. We discussed price and when she asked me how much I said 20000 and all of a sudden the mood changed. I asked what's wrong, she said you offered 25000 to no 488 last night. I asked her how she knew, she said no 118 who is a friend of no 224 heard it from no 668 a sister of no 442 who shares a room with no 488. She was super cute and what's an extra 5 k between friends so off we went but not before I tipped no 553 and no 554 a g. Note each. Just as well I have a good head for numbers eh! Hope my game is as good again tonight.LOL. However, take note that MP's 5,000 baht girl first refused him when he offered her 50,000 baht because he had already been with her friend:
Actually tonight I was at What's Up and asked her again for a drink. She agreed and we talked a bit. She said to me the reason last time she did not want to come was that her best friend #99 already went with me. #99 is now on holiday, so tonight it only cost me 5,000 not 50 K anymore for her company.Which totally contradicts his take on why she DID go with him later for only 5,000 baht:
So when it so happened that the night that I was able to get her for just 5,000, she definitely acted nicer and broke down her own ego. Another girl who works there told me that after I left that night. The attention that was brought to the 50,000 What's Up girl made her feel special as she was in the spotlight. A lot of girls told her "he must really like you." Remember girls always look at the next girl they work with and try to compare themselves.So it wasn't going to stroke her ego even more to actually have been GIVEN 50,000 baht for the same mediocre sex (apparently, according to him) he'd gotten from her friend?
This is what I meant by him leaving a trail of "tells" in his posts that his game, reports, perception, understanding or whatever of what is actually happening around him is mostly bullshit. And I am only picking them up from a few truncated paragraphs out of his posts I see quoted by others since he has me on Ignore. LOL.
Meanwhile, he reports that the sex was nothing to write home about. Which I am sure comes as no surprise to most seasoned punters here with regard to what a Thai P4P girl (or even a non pro) is likely to dole out to someone she perceives as extremely foolish with money and who seems not to expect or need much of value in return for it. So perhaps the teachable moment here is one might not want to follow his example of "game" and overspending in order to get quite rewarding real sex from young, attractive Thai girls.
I guess I am a romance erotica novelist then. 555.
Like you Blanky, I have come to realize that a no posting pics policy is wise. Too many white knights around who will show the girl the pics if they recognize her. Has already happened to me on another forum (Pattaya Addicts). Girls get pissed and you burn bridges. So never again.Same here. And not only were bridges burned but the husband/boyfriend of the girl in question went on a murder threat/stalking jag against me on more than one other message board sites.
In fact, no photos of the lady in question were ever posted. Just her name and the bar she worked in. Whenever I read a report detailing great sex, especially if BBFS and/or BBBJ+CIM are cited or strongly implied, with either a photo or enough of an identification in terms of name, badge number and location of a girl that anyone who knows her will get the message, I always cringe. That girl might have a husband or boyfriend who knows she is a working girl and enjoys the money but has been assured by her that anything and everything she does with a customer will always be fully separated by a latex barrier. And if a friend of a friend sees that post someday in the Internet Infinite future and passes the info along to the husband/boyfriend, that girl is very likely in for a serious ass-kicking and possibly worse.
I believe you. Just saying it's harder to stunt in NY, Vegas, Miami, and LA. Plus more to do. I hope you score all the trophy girls. We have different priorities & objectives. I rather drive around Patts in a new Bentley or Lamborghini than score the hottest working girl.Still awesome that you are bringing in Floyd to compare me with. I find that flattering. However, it's not in God's will to spend my life getting hit in the face while hugging sweaty men for money. God has better plans for me. Anyways, I mentioned we are on a different level. But you have definitely confirmed that by coming on a P4P board and admitting your preference to flaunt around in a $150,000 car in Pattaya rather than just paying and scoring trophy Go Go bar girls who work as hookers. Think about that.
The Lambo gets you attention from girls, but I'm pretty sure when you are inside Starbucks that you won't come out to a naked girl spread open wide on your hood. I'm also pretty sure you still have to wine and dine them however and wherever you meet them. Maybe even have to party with them because you want to show off the car. That's another $200-300. Since these girls are non Go Go bar girls, unless you have X ray vision, how do you know what their body looks like? So if my math is correct, which it may not be. The price of a 1000 Trophy Girls from Go Go bars who I can already see them half naked before choosing to bang them OR a fancy sports car for the that same money, but not including girls whose bodies I can preview, plus I have to spend money entertaining them? Hmm.
Remember this is P4P board, and most of us here have already found the secret about life, sex, women? s.
Mr Enternational
06-18-18, 10:18
I agree with you regarding photos and even with sharing of contacts as after my last visit I did share contact details and lost one keeper. I will share my experiences and what places I find good at that time and that's it. If no one believes me I don't care!LOL. Your tune changed quick Bro Rob. Just a couple of weeks ago I think you were saying you didn't care and would happily share contact information. Once again, experience proves itself to be the best teacher.
Dude spent 94,000 at Queens? Must have poor taste in women. Went there last week because a friend asked why we never go to Queens. As we left I promised myself not to return to Queens for one year.
Only if you're not appealing to them.
I will also never post a photo of any of my regular girls. I think I posted one photo (link below) on this site of a girl I was desperately searching for at Viper Bar in Pratumnak Hill. No responses. Still hope to bump into her one day.
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=240033&d=1462828422So What is the Reasonable Price for LT in Hollywood?
Blanquiceleste
06-18-18, 12:51
This is what I meant by him leaving a trail of "tells" in his posts that his game, reports, perception, understanding or whatever of what is actually happening around him is mostly bullshit. And I am only picking them up from a few truncated paragraphs out of his posts I see quoted by others since he has me on Ignore. LOL.My two cents.
I am not doubting MPs ability and willingness to spend big money. There are several such high rollers I have seen. Go to The Pimp in BKK and you will understand what I mean. It is simply an equation of how much you can afford to blow without making any dents in your overall net worth. And Thailand is just a miniscule dot on that big spenders map. Go to some of the casinos in Macau and you can see wealthy Chinese men blow over half a million in less than 30 minutes at the roulette table. P4 P isn't the most expensive pastime yet.
I am not doubting that he picks up beautiful girls from top GoGo bars in Thailand. Given that most of these girls have seen more cocks than we have seen pussy, it is only logical to conclude that these girls have been laid by several other men, so there is no big deal in saying I sleep with beautiful girls. And beauty lies in the eye of the beholder. As BB says, about Queens Club, I have seen a few pics on Facebook, and they all look like ladyboys to me. I would not even go inside once. But I like What's Up, I like Sapphire, I like the other joints MP mentions. So no trouble there.
What I am absolutely not OK with is the idea of humiliating people by flashing money around. In the last post he mentions about how if the girl did come over for the 50 K baht, he would have eventually rejected her by saying she looks fatter when she is closer. That is sick. That is kicking someone in the teeth when they are down.
LittleBigMan
06-18-18, 14:31
I have been struggling with Monkey Paws post and find it disturbing that he gets off on humiliating the girls in such establishments. If that is power I am happy I don't have to wield it in such a way to prove I have it. I must admit I get a laugh when I see Asians make it rain baht and throw the ping pong balls around. It must be terrible to have to enlarge your ego to compensate for a small member.Manhood? Funny how people talk and don't know it at times? From all the stats about dicks I think unless the person is from the Congo, there isn't anything to brag about being a 1/4 larger than the next shorter race. You don't need a 44 magnum to kill someone a nail will do when use properly and place in the right location?
When it comes to humiliating I agree somewhat, majority of my experience Asian just toss randomly without thought, from my experience it is the whites (in general) that seem to dangle, tease, especially taking the time to wrap it with a rubber band to shoot it off, personally regardless if they have the money or not I think these types run short of a personality and more.
Unless, Monkey is Asian which I don't believe he is it just shows not only Asian have enlarge ego to compensate for a small member not a lot of Asian will spend what he did especially at Queens and all he got was 60 baht off. Each time I visit Bacarra I spend a average of 4000 baht at least I get a straight halve glass of Sangsome for free. I guess paw is proper name otherwise he would be calling himself King Kong!
Much to my embarrassment Rob Jones has posted about our night out in Pattaya as a tag team weeks ago. So apologies for a delayed report. This was a one night visit in Pattaya so as you can see below I am going for it. Rob had a head start on me by a few days so I was relying on his intelligence gathering before I came. I met my regular bar girl contact from Ninja gogo bar when I checked in at 10 am. She was hot and into it. Round one then I showered and planned to go to meet Rob for a drink. I sat on the sofa and she cuddled up close again. Ooops cock gets hard again so we go for round 2 . Fucked like crazy while looking at ourselves in the mirror. Showered and said bye bye. Met Rob and went to a bar opposite Baraquda Sofitel where we are both staying to have a beer or two. I like this hotel so much as a 5 star option as it is between LK Metro and Walking Street and the reception staff are so cool about taking multiple girls in. They know me now haha. So we decide to hit Kinaree first. Rob said he would just have drinks and save his little man for later. In his report Rob says he resisted for 10 minutes but my estimate is that after a girl was on his lap in front of him on a high bar stool he lasted about 30 seconds before his little man was crying out for a fuck. I spotted a slim girl in a super short skirt which I like and invited her over. She stood between my open legs while I am on the bar stool feeling her sexy shaped ass. Now this is a one night stand for me in Pattaya so I am aiming to go for it. I then spotted 2 more hotties and invited them over. Bit fake but what the hell I take all 3 for a foursome. Banged them all and out to the bar to relax. The 2 late choices buggered off to other guys but the cutie in the micro mini skirt sticks onto me. She works at What's Up gogo in Walking Street in the night. Ok noted. So Rob and I go back to the hotel to freshen up and hit LK Metro as the gogo bars open early at 7 pm. Touch then Paradise. Good fun but no stunners. Cruise a few other bars then Ninja to see my morning fuck who was expecting us. Well call me a sucker but I like her and let her order 20 drinks which she consumed but being a gentleman I paid her bar fine so she could go home to sleep. Rob and I then hop on taxi bikes like desperadoes on a lifetime adventure and with the wind in our hair race down to Walking Street. Had some luck in Bliss before so go inside. See a cutie on stage and her friend and have drinks. But too early to commit so say bye bye. Then Rob and I cruise around eyeing the pussy potential. We go to What's Up as I like the girl from Kinaree. No 318 at What's Up. We find her and ask her to invite her friends for a drink but I don't fancy her friends so I just bar fine no 318 from Kinaree. The night is now pushing on towards 2 am. Rob knows the girls in Crazy House but doesn't want to meet his regular so we negotiate some girls from outside haha. Apparently one of the bar maids sees me, wants to fuck me and puts her hand up to join our orgy haha. In fact she is quite cute so off we go with 1 gogo girl and a bar maid. I tell Rob to wait as I want to check out 1-2 other bars but end up in Bliss alone and great the 2 hotties I saw earlier are free OK. Negotiate price and take them back to Rob who wondered where the heck I had been as he had been fending of the demands of the mamasan at Crazy House. Now inside. For more and more drinks. Robs face lights up when he spots the 2 Bliss girls with me. OK 5 girls back to my suite at Baraquda Sofitel and we do ourselves proud for a few hours. Great fun at least for Rob and me. About 5 am the party is over and I need to go to the airport. Grrrrrrrr. Frankly we overpaid on the bar fines for the girls but they were happy for that and what can you do after drinking and seeing such hotties. So I am hungry and wander outside to the 24 hour McDonalds. So I walk along and a hottie on the far side of the road catches my eye. She is walking alone. Short shirts and a crop top. So I cross the road to say Hi. 1000 baht for quick fuck OK so back to the room. Haha well I told you this was just one night and I am going for it. So that is it 10 girls in 24 hours. And yes I still made it for a quick McDonalds breakfast before getting the taxi. Thanks to Rob, the staff at Baraquda and of course all the girls for their good attitude and fun.
My experience is starting g to make me think a girl friend experience is all about the girl and not how well you know her. I went to a bar 3 nights in a row, play games with a girl, flirt etc. I took her back to the motel tonight and no GFE. Fair enough but I thought it would be one. I think many here don't care about GFE much, but I like it a lot. Some girls at soi 6 that I met 45 minutes before seem more GFE then someone I met a week ago.
My conclusion, it is just the personality of the girl and nothing more.
I have been here 3 days and had 3 girls and 2 massages with happy ending. Soi 7 and soi 8 are pretty fun. I went to a gogo on soi 7 (I think) and there were 2 women with great tits maybe see cups. It was a hands on place. Took a girl upstairs at soi 6. She said we had to be done in 20 minutes as they closed at 1. It was 1100 baht total. Found a few really good lookers but thought I would go back later and they were gone already.
I went to (maybe) soi LK express. There were a lot of gogo places there. I am not really much for gogo bars. So it wasn't my thing. But there are several there. One was handing out coupon for free first drink.
Things are different this trip. I am more of the attitude I look for what I want and say no to things I don't. Like not buying lady drinks unless I want.
I am here 1 more day then off to phuket. I think I might take 10,000 baht and some viagra to soi 6 and go until I wear out.
Much to my embarrassment Rob Jones has posted about our night out in Pattaya as a tag team weeks ago. So apologies for a delayed report. This was a one night visit in Pattaya so as you can see below I am going for it. Rob had a head start on me by a few days so I was relying on his intelligence gathering before I came. I met my regular bar girl contact from Ninja gogo bar when I checked in at 10 am. She was hot and into it. Round one then I showered and planned to go to meet Rob for a drink. I sat on the sofa and she cuddled up close again. Ooops cock gets hard again so we go for round 2 . Fucked like crazy while looking at ourselves in the mirror. Showered and said bye bye. Met Rob and went to a bar opposite Baraquda Sofitel where we are both staying to have a beer or two. I like this hotel so much as a 5 star option as it is between LK Metro and Walking Street and the reception staff are so cool about taking multiple girls in. They know me now haha. So we decide to hit Kinaree first. Rob said he would just have drinks and save his little man for later. In his report Rob says he resisted for 10 minutes but my estimate is that after a girl was on his lap in front of him on a high bar stool he lasted about 30 seconds before his little man was crying out for a fuck. I spotted a slim girl in a super short skirt which I like and invited her over. She stood between my open legs while I am on the bar stool feeling her sexy shaped ass. Now this is a one night stand for me in Pattaya so I am aiming to go for it. I then spotted 2 more hotties and invited them over. Bit fake but what the hell I take all 3 for a foursome. Banged them all and out to the bar to relax. The 2 late choices buggered off to other guys but the cutie in the micro mini skirt sticks onto me. She works at What's Up gogo in Walking Street in the night. Ok noted. So Rob and I go back to the hotel to freshen up and hit LK Metro as the gogo bars open early at 7 pm. Touch then Paradise. Good fun but no stunners. Cruise a few other bars then Ninja to see my morning fuck who was expecting us. Well call me a sucker but I like her and let her order 20 drinks which she consumed but being a gentleman I paid her bar fine so she could go home to sleep. Rob and I then hop on taxi bikes like desperadoes on a lifetime adventure and with the wind in our hair race down to Walking Street. Had some luck in Bliss before so go inside. See a cutie on stage and her friend and have drinks. But too early to commit so say bye bye. Then Rob and I cruise around eyeing the pussy potential. We go to What's Up as I like the girl from Kinaree. No 318 at What's Up. We find her and ask her to invite her friends for a drink but I don't fancy her friends so I just bar fine no 318 from Kinaree. The night is now pushing on towards 2 am. Rob knows the girls in Crazy House but doesn't want to meet his regular so we negotiate some girls from outside haha. Apparently one of the bar maids sees me, wants to fuck me and puts her hand up to join our orgy haha. In fact she is quite cute so off we go with 1 gogo girl and a bar maid. I tell Rob to wait as I want to check out 1-2 other bars but end up in Bliss alone and great the 2 hotties I saw earlier are free OK. Negotiate price and take them back to Rob who wondered where the heck I had been as he had been fending of the demands of the mamasan at Crazy House. Now inside. For more and more drinks. Robs face lights up when he spots the 2 Bliss girls with me. OK 5 girls back to my suite at Baraquda Sofitel and we do ourselves proud for a few hours. Great fun at least for Rob and me. About 5 am the party is over and I need to go to the airport. Grrrrrrrr. Frankly we overpaid on the bar fines for the girls but they were happy for that and what can you do after drinking and seeing such hotties. So I am hungry and wander outside to the 24 hour McDonalds. So I walk along and a hottie on the far side of the road catches my eye. She is walking alone. Short shirts and a crop top. So I cross the road to say Hi. 1000 baht for quick fuck OK so back to the room. Haha well I told you this was just one night and I am going for it. So that is it 10 girls in 24 hours. And yes I still made it for a quick McDonalds breakfast before getting the taxi. Thanks to Rob, the staff at Baraquda and of course all the girls for their good attitude and fun.Hi Gogoguyz.
It was a night alright. Kudos to you too for making it an enjoyable night. I have showed my friends the pics of the Bliss girls and definitely on the repeat list.
Look after yourself and I am back in February so if you have a lazy 24 hours. LOL.
LOL. Your tune changed quick Bro Rob. Just a couple of weeks ago I think you were saying you didn't care and would happily share contact information. Once again, experience proves itself to be the best teacher.You are correct Mr E. A girl who's ID I put out there was actually hit and I have been indirectly blamed for her injuries due to the fact that I supplied her information. A bitter pill to swallow.
That is a real bummer. Happened elsewhere with a full time pro I shared contact. Thought she could take care of herself.
You are correct Mr E. A girl who's ID I put out there was actually hit and I have been indirectly blamed for her injuries due to the fact that I supplied her information. A bitter pill to swallow.
I think it is all hyperbole. Nobody in his right mind walks around drinking & barhopping with 50 K sticking out of his pocket. It's just asking for trouble. On the other hand, I have initially enjoyed reading Monkeypaw's tongue in cheek posts because I didn't take him too literally. I think his posts form a humorous counterweight to the "I never pay more that 1000 baht for hot young girls" posts one sees on the forum. At least Monkeypaw posts pictures of his girls. I don't know if his pics are genuine or not, but I find some of his girls are attractive and I like that. Time will tell if Monkeypaw is real or not.Sorry I didn't mention my money was in USD, so it was that many notes. The other night, at one of my favorite go go bars, I was sitting next to this young Chinese tourist who was alone. He had a wad of 1000 bahts sticking out of his pocket. The staff had previously pointed out to him that it was sticking out looking like it was going to fall. He just waived them off. I alerted him also that it might fall out and to be careful. He also only shrugged off my suggestion. But he did asked me if I was Chinese. I said "No. I'm from Hong Kong". He looked glad and told me in Chinese, he broke away from a tour group, and that it was his first time in Pattaya. I asked why do have so much cash and how much is that? He said 100,000 baht and it was only for show to impress the girls. By the way, he was sipping on cheap draft beer (the same glass for 30 minutes) and apparently he doesn't drink. Next to me sitting was IMHO one of the hottest girls in Pattaya. Her body is all firm and natural but looks enhanced. She is a model dancer and I've been with her 3 times before. I also wanted to bar fine her again this night. By the way it's 2000 bar fine and short time is up to the girl (3000-8000) for the models at this club, but most don't go with customers. She asked me could I wait until after 2 am, so she could help her friends make some extra money off drinks. One of them needed 5 more to make her quota and it's her last day of her 10 day contract. I guess she's one those team players that drinks in groups of girls to help one another. The other girls tell me my model girl gets around 30 or so per night in drinks. That's a lot of revenue for the club, because for models, their drinks are 250 baht each.
So I told her, not a problem, but her let me join in on the fun and help her friends and the rest of the girls out. Anyways I keep saying I come from power not money. So pay attention. I had the waitress bring the young Chinese guy come sit next to me. I told the waitress to put his bill consisting of his 1 draft beer on my tab. He was so happy. I looked at my model girl and winked. I started chatting the Chinese guy about China and Hong Kong, we went through some pictures on our phones. This guy apparently comes from a rich family who trades in gold. The more we talked and the more he looked at some of the people, places, and things in the photos on my phone, he knew I came from power and not wealth. It's hard to comprehend for most lay people what this means. But a few of you may understand. Then I begin playing with some of my magic. I told him to hide his money and choose the best looking girl in here. Funny thing is, he then asked if he can take mine? He wanted the same hot model I had planned to bar fine. I looked at her and winked that everything will be just fine, I asked her to bring over a good friend who she wanted to help make her drink quota. She brought over a so so in looks girl who was her friend. Looking at her, I would have never had an interest in her. But oh well. Still, I said to the sexy one "I want you to sit with him and your friend can sit with me. " I looked at him and said, since I gave you my girl and I have already paid for her drinks. You will have to pay for the drinks of my second choice (the so so girl). He agreed quickly. Come on, he gets a chance to sit with one of the hottest on Walking Street. How could he refuse? The so so girl then orders 5 tequila roses to which I told him to put on his new drink bill.
I then bought this dude, who I can tell never drinks, some Sambuca shots on my tab. See how kind and generous I was being? Within an hour the magic started kicking in. He got tipsy and even bought me a couple of shots back. By then, I got both girls to come sit with him and then a few more girls came as well. I then told him don't buy any new girl drinks. He still wanted to. Pretty much everybody was taking shots besides the hot model girl and me. I just kept winking at her. Next the now drunk Chinese guy, who was previously flashing 100,000 baht, then said he was having so much fun and he wanted to buy some ping pongs to throw. I told him that it's not a good idea as the club keeps half the money and the girls only get to keep 10 baht per ball. I asked about his wad of 1000 bahts and he then took it out to show the girls. I suggested he get some of that changed to 20's, so he can make rain "yee sip" baht. Moments later, it was raining 20's everywhere in the club. He even gave me a stack of 2000 baht from his wad, so I can also help make it rain on the dancers. When he was on stage making it rain. I called the mamasan and waitstaff to check my bill consisting of his 1 draft beer, 5 Sambuca shots bought for him, 2 orange juices for my model girl, my tonic water, and the hot model's bar fine. Not any more than I usually pay. And in the end, I left him alone with some new friends, his bill, and whatever was left of his wad of cash. And of course, I was able to grab the hot model girl I originally wanted. I told her now that I helped her friend and the girls in club make some extra cash, we get to go before 2 am. She just grinned at me and off we went. The rest of the staff just folded their hands in prayer, bowed, grinned and thanked me on the way out.
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Not to stir trouble of take sides, but I do like reading the tale of how Rocky became king of the hill in bargain hunting over ME (sorry ME), even though there were no follow up reports.
As for the games MP plays, girls play that all the time. Even pros. In a way it is nice to see it come around. I often want to step in tell some of the young guys to dump the girl they are with because of all the manipulative mind games.
As others pointed out, picture is worth 1000 words. I took a side trip and went to some of the bars mentioned in MP's post. Did not have much time but the cast of characters appear to match some in the pictures. So who knows. It is not really a big deal for me as it is the reading that is more entertaining.In these top end Go Go bars, some of these trophy girls, waitstaff, and mamasans play and play hard. They will lie, cheat, and do everything possible to get your money. I've seen them lie to customers about barfine prices, ST rates, LT rates, and inflated bills. So it's actually hilarious to see some of these guys act like these girls are their best friends in Thailand every time I post anything. They are so against me "humiliating" a single top end trophy girl (to which they don't know the reason between me and her) by throwing 15,000 baht to all of the poor girls working there. Or by me, ringing the bell and buying the rest of the girls in the club a drink as well. I'm so cruel in my actions or perhaps it's anything that I say, write, or do? It's very apparent, that some of these guys don't even go to Go Go bars. If they did, they will know that there are always a few girls who think they are too good to catch 20's when they are being rained. There are always a few girls that won't pick up ping pong balls for the same reason. Or perhaps, they know that Monkeypaw is in the house and they aren't allowed.
Now I don't worry about money too much, but dislike it when they (Go Go bar staff) try to play their games on a "generous" customer like me. I've been more than kind and generous to all of Walking Street. So even now, not many girls try anymore. I catch on too quick. There's a short hair model at Whats Up who has previously sat with me ONLY because she was friends with #401 Fern at Palace. Fern had accompanied me to What's Up for some drinks. They used to work together at Palace, so I offered to buy her a drink only because Fern asked. So every time, I came back to What's Up, the short hair model acts as if I'm her best new friend. She comes even when I have other girls with me. Long story short. One night I asked the short hair girl, let's go have sex. I want to barfine you. She said she can't tonight, but next time is okay. She also said it's very expensive here for a model. I looked her facial expressions and asked her why not tonight? She said she's on her period. I flat out told her. "I'm probably the one customer you shouldn't lie and play around with. I've been more than nice to you. You don't need to come over anymore and ask drinks from me. " Another dancer girl and waitstaff over heard me and told her something in Thai. They then told me "Don't worry, she doesn't know and is new working here. " She got up and left.
My reputation is that I'm nice and generous, but have been in this game way too long to put up with some of these girls' games. I'll pay you good money for a good experience. Be nice to me and I'll always be nice to you. Screw me over, and I will embarrass you. I don't mind calling a girl out in front of another customer or another girl. Even with this reputation, I'm surprised still at how many girls I have gotten on first try and most have been the trophy ones, who gave me decent experiences. The few bad apples who hustled and gave me a horrible experience, I've already embarrassed them. And yet, when a new one comes along, here is the mamasan and waitstaff eager to make introductions for us. That's how I expect them to earn their tip. Not to stick out their hand for doing nothing. Bring me the best, hottest, and sexiest talent you have to offer and be accountable for her service because I'm a good customer. Anything wrong with that?
Banana Boi
06-19-18, 10:16
I went to (maybe) soi LK express. There were a lot of gogo places there. I am not really much for gogo bars. So it wasn't my thing. But there are several there. One was handing out coupon for free first drink.
....... I think I might take 10,000 baht and some viagra to soi 6 and go until I wear out.10,000 baht is 7 girls on Soi 6. A nice way to end the trip.
The gogo bar at LK Metro handing out first drink free coupons is The Office. Times are very tough at the LK Metro gogo bars. Most girls have bailed already. LK Metro is mainly beer bars now rather than the few existing gogo bars remaining.
Jimmy Boy 99
06-19-18, 14:35
I don't know about that, but here is his bin from last night for all of you Cheap Charlies.I am amazed hat a go go bar would allow someone to run up a 94,000 baht tab. Perhaps he showed them he had the cash but I still would have expected them to settle the bill every 20,000 or so.
Mr Enternational
06-19-18, 16:12
She is a model dancer and I've been with her 3 times before. I also wanted to bar fine her again this night. By the way it's 2000 bar fine and short time is up to the girl (3000-8000) for the models at this club, but most don't go with customers. She asked me could I wait until after 2 am,Why continue to pay a bar fine when you already know a chick? I have never understood that. If most didn't go with customers there would be no "bar fine" and no "short time up to the girl"... same as maybe a restaurant or dentist office. That is just a way to trick you into paying more because you are thinking you are getting something special.
One night I asked the short hair girl, let's go have sex. I want to barfine you. She said she can't tonight, but next time is okay. She also said it's very expensive here for a model. I looked her facial expressions and asked her why not tonight? She said she's on her period. I flat out told her. "I'm probably the one customer you shouldn't lie and play around with. I've been more than nice to you. You don't need to come over anymore and ask drinks from me.Why do you think this was a game? Women have periods. At the same time, if she would have let you bar fine her and she started bleeding all over your bed then you would have been mad that she didn't tell you. Instead of being vindictive, just ask when is a good day.
Even with this reputation, I'm surprised still at how many girls I have gotten on first tryDude. You are aware that these are prostitutes right? They came to Pattaya to fuck foreigners for money. When you start fucking them for free, THAT is the time to be surprised.
Banana Boi
06-19-18, 17:44
New gogo on Walking Street. Was Annabelle before. Figured why not. Let's just walk in and out. Pleasantly surprised by over 70 girls. Many familiar faces for those who know the gogo girls around Pattaya. Saw at least one girl from Happy, Baccara, Palace, and Sensations. Not the top girls but a handful are on the prettier side. Lady drinks for models 200 baht. Not sure about regular girls. Place looks like Palace. Same arm band as Sensations. Anyone know if the owners are the same. Definitely worth a visit for gogo guys in town now. Just opened yesterday so who knows if the girls will be there after their 10 day stint.
I pretty much never pick a girl on soi 6 who doesn't act interested in me first. Today I see a woman, short, maybe 4' 10" and young. I think she said 23. She had nice big boobs for her size that she said were natural. We go up to room and she tells me to take shower by myself. I want her to join me but give in and take shower alone. When I get out of shower she tells me to pay her. I say no, I pay after and she is adamant I pay her then. So I say, no I am going to leave. She says okay pay after. She didn't speak english well but I understood her. Then she goes to take shower and shuts the door. The shower was in the room. I am kind of pissed and think this isn't worth it. So I say I am leaving, I get dressed and leave. She goes out different way and talks to mamasan. I have no idea what she said. Mamasan comes over to me and asks what happened. I say what I said above. Mamasan gives me back my barfine and I leave.
There are a few good looking younger girls on soi 6, but if they don't act interested in me I leave them be. I am 57 so old enough to be there grandpa, so I understand if they think I am too old. This girl was just kind of hot, short, young and nice tits. She said no baby.
Maybe someone here can tell me what I need to learn from this experience if anything. I think I handled it okay except for misjudging she didn't want sex if that was the case.
Christian G
06-19-18, 19:52
Maybe someone here can tell me what I need to learn from this experience if anything. I think I handled it okay except for misjudging she didn't want sex if that was the case.In my opinion you don't need to learn nothing, but sure she should learn out to treat the customers and how to work, asking money in advance = scam / starfish for me.
I am 57 so old enough to be there grandpa, so I understand if they think I am too old. Money has no age, but unfortunately some girls thinking to be a "superstar" and be picky. I have one friend, he is over 50 but looking good, fit body (go to the gym often) dress well, he is a Brasil Lover but for few years he stop to go to Brasil due to the bad exchange rate and safety issue, after few years of Thailand he give up and back to Brasil, why? Because he like to party and drink all night long and pick up freelancers in the disco, but he found the best Ibar / Insomnia girl to be very picky and sometimes they refuse his money (he don't have problem to pay 3. 000 baht and up for LT). In Brasil he pick up stunning young girls, age doesn't matter there (he said) just need money.
Banana Boi
06-19-18, 20:36
For Soi 6, I would have walked after the shower alone line. Too many other similar choices. BTW, you've likely noticed that 57 isn't that old for Pattaya.
That is a real bummer. Happened elsewhere with a full time pro I shared contact. Thought she could take care of herself.Hi Wimble.
You live and learn. I will only share now with guys I have met. Not trying to be argumentative but the girls shouldn't have to know how to look after them selves because even if they are sex workers there should be some respect.
I pretty much never pick a girl on soi 6 who doesn't act interested in me first. Today I see a woman, short, maybe 4' 10" and young. I think she said 23. She had nice big boobs for her size that she said were natural. We go up to room and she tells me to take shower by myself. I want her to join me but give in and take shower alone. When I get out of shower she tells me to pay her. I say no, I pay after and she is adamant I pay her then. So I say, no I am going to leave. She says okay pay after. She didn't speak english well but I understood her. Then she goes to take shower and shuts the door. The shower was in the room. I am kind of pissed and think this isn't worth it. So I say I am leaving, I get dressed and leave. She goes out different way and talks to mamasan. I have no idea what she said. Mamasan comes over to me and asks what happened. I say what I said above. Mamasan gives me back my barfine and I leave.
There are a few good looking younger girls on soi 6, but if they don't act interested in me I leave them be. I am 57 so old enough to be there grandpa, so I understand if they think I am too old. This girl was just kind of hot, short, young and nice tits. She said no baby.
Maybe someone here can tell me what I need to learn from this experience if anything. I think I handled it okay except for misjudging she didn't want sex if that was the case.Hi.
I think you did the right thing and avoided an even worse experience. Who knows why Thai girls act the way they do and if she keeps that attitude she will experience more walk outs and possibly learn or go back to the farm. I'm 57 and not in good shape and I just returned from 5 days in Pattaya and I didn't get 1 rejection and I had some hot girls in their early 20's every day so don't let her poor attitude put doubt in your mind. It's like if I walk into a gogo and I'm not approached by a girl within 5 minutes of entering I leave. Their problem not mine.
Enjoy your holiday.
Mr Enternational
06-19-18, 22:43
You live and learn. I will only share now with guys I have met. Not trying to be argumentative but the girls shouldn't have to know how to look after them selves because even if they are sex workers there should be some respect.The guys that you have met won't need or want your contacts. They are perfectly able to establish their own.
The guys that you have met won't need or want your contacts. They are perfectly able to establish their own.Actually after sharing pics, price and performance we do share because we do visit at different times as well as meeting when we are there at the same time. Do not wasted on guys who I like and who's opinions I respect.
So this post is for people who have never been to a blow job bar. I went to my first today. It was click bar on soi 6 I think.
The women sit outside the bar calling men over. They do that thing with their hand and tongue pushing out the side of their mouth you know they are simulating a blow job. You pick you girl outside then go into the bar. The mamasan asked me to pay first. It was 800 baht. Most people here say not to pay first but they asked me to and I did.
We went towards the back. The woman pulled a curtain to shield us from rest of bar. She told me to take off my pants. She wipes down my pecker and balls with a couple of wet wipes. She put a pillow on floor for her knees and went after it.
There wasn't anything subtle about it. No teasing the head or licking up the shaft. It was like a pump. She used one hand on my balls. I don't really like that so I reached down and moved it. She never put it back.
I have had a bit of a problem finishing so timed things in case it took a while. It took 5 minutes.
When she was done she teased a bit about me breathing more towards the finish. But it was a friendly tease. I had already paid so said thank you and left.
This was my experience I don't know if it is typical. It was easy way to get off and really nothing to worry about if you worry about trying new things.
Banana Boi
06-20-18, 10:39
I haven't heard about guys having to pay first on Soi 6 and I see you have been asked to do it twice now. I'm not familiar with Click Bar so maybe that is their policy. Not sure it flies with many Soi 6 regulars though.
You are right about me being asked to pay first twice now. I hadn't realized that. I think it is just a odd coincidence. The first girl was just that way I think. She gave me a go to hell look when I walked by her today. I think it is click bars policy, but I don't know that.
If anyone has been there would you post it here please?
There is nothing about me that looks sketchy. Just a middle age guy in shorts and t shirt. Conservative hair cut, no tattoos or pierced face. I did ask how things work there when I was there. I did not know if there was a room charge like rest of soi 6.
Who knows. I hope it isn't me looking like I won't pay.
I haven't heard about guys having to pay first on Soi 6 and I see you have been asked to do it twice now. I'm not familiar with Click Bar so maybe that is their policy. Not sure it flies with many Soi 6 regulars though.
Uncle Volodya
06-20-18, 13:02
You are right about me being asked to pay first twice now. I hadn't realized that. I think it is just a odd coincidence. The first girl was just that way I think. She gave me a go to hell look when I walked by her today. I think it is click bars policy, but I don't know that.
If anyone has been there would you post it here please?
There is nothing about me that looks sketchy. Just a middle age guy in shorts and t shirt. Conservative hair cut, no tattoos or pierced face. I did ask how things work there when I was there. I did not know if there was a room charge like rest of soi 6.
Who knows. I hope it isn't me looking like I won't pay.I don't ever remember having to pay first anywhere on Soi 6. Nor do I remember ever having a bad shag on Soi 6. But I always take time to see if I can build up some kind of rapport first before I take a girl upstairs.
The bigger problem for me is finding a girl I am attracted to on the 6. Sometimes it's like finding a needle in a haystack. Though judging from the pics that some of the Bars are posting online and from what I've heard from friends on the ground the situation has been looking up lately.
Mr Enternational
06-20-18, 14:34
Nor do I remember ever having a bad shag on Soi 6. But I always take time to see if I can build up some kind of rapport first before I take a girl upstairs.IMHO this does nothing. What is she going to do more or less of when you get to the room because you sat there and had a drink and joked around with her? I doubt if her pussy gets any wetter.
If I sat there and talked to a plumber for 30 minutes before he started on my pipes does it mean he will do any better of a job than had I not built up a rapport. They could have the best intentions in the world, but some people are just shitty at their job. Hell, there are normal chicks I know that are shitty at fucking and I have tons of rapport with them.
Uncle Volodya
06-20-18, 15:20
IMHO this does nothing. What is she going to do more or less of when you get to the room because you sat there and had a drink and joked around with her? I doubt if her pussy gets any wetter.
If I sat there and talked to a plumber for 30 minutes before he started on my pipes does it mean he will do any better of a job than had I not built up a rapport. They could have the best intentions in the world, but some people are just shitty at their job. Hell, there are normal chicks I know that are shitty at fucking and I have tons of rapport with them.I guess you could also say "check to see if there is some chemistry" and "see if she is affectionate / attentive / etc. " rather then "build up rapport". Thought I'd argue that building up arpport is still important. And its not just restricted to her. I'm not a slam bam guy and like to hang a bit and relax before going up to loom.
Call me Mr. Sentimental. 555.
In my opinion you don't need to learn nothing, but sure she should learn out to treat the customers and how to work, asking money in advance = scam / starfish for me.
Money has no age, but unfortunately some girls thinking to be a "superstar" and be picky. I have one friend, he is over 50 but looking good, fit body (go to the gym often) dress well, he is a Brasil Lover but for few years he stop to go to Brasil due to the bad exchange rate and safety issue, after few years of Thailand he give up and back to Brasil, why? Because he like to party and drink all night long and pick up freelancers in the disco, but he found the best Ibar / Insomnia girl to be very picky and sometimes they refuse his money (he don't have problem to pay 3. 000 baht and up for LT). In Brasil he pick up stunning young girls, age doesn't matter there (he said) just need money.I'm nowhere near 50 but I have gotten rejected in Brazil, albeit less than Pattaya. In SE Asia girls can refuse barfines because they have preconceived notions about the monger demographic. Some of the hotties have 4 or 5 sponsors and that allows them to just hang out with their girlfriends for the night. The girls in Patts love to party and if they have a day job they can afford to take nights off. In Latin America the girl just wouldn't show up for work unless she just wants to juice guys for drinks (see drink ****). The picky 8+ are a drag and a waste of space since they give no action 90% of the time. We know some guys overspend for the perceived white glove treatment. I will admit Thailand is tourist centric so a lot of punters are not easy on the eyes compared to Tijuana which is on the US border. Your friend made the correct choice to discontinue LOS. Latin America vs SE Asia has its pros and cons.
Member #4698
06-20-18, 15:38
IMHO this does nothing. What is she going to do more or less of when you get to the room because you sat there and had a drink and joked around with her? I doubt if her pussy gets any wetter.
If I sat there and talked to a plumber for 30 minutes before he started on my pipes does it mean he will do any better of a job than had I not built up a rapport. They could have the best intentions in the world, but some people are just shitty at their job. Hell, there are normal chicks I know that are shitty at fucking and I have tons of rapport with them.Yes, it can go either way. No getting to know ya & great sex vs lots of getting to know ya & nothing to write home about sex, BUT clearly one of the advantages of Go Go's, bars & clubs is that these venues offer punters the opportunity to evaluate the girl first to see if there is or isn't any chemistry before making the commitment. I have found that more times than not establishing some kind of rapport / chemistry with a bar girl before shagging her works to both parties advantage. A simple analogy might be establishing a friendly rapport with a particular waitress in your favorite coffee house. Over time I expect and do receive better service. As always, do what works for you ie what maximizes your utility.
I also enjoy brothels, saunas, houses, and massage parlors and walking in off the street, picking a new girl in the lineup, going upstairs, and getting it on without pre-establishing any rapport or chemistry, but it is always part of my routine to perform a few warm up sexual preliminaries to turn the girl and myself on as best I can before the actual sex act ie penetration. I never just plow right in although that might work with some girls too. 555!
I'm nowhere near 50 but I have gotten rejected in Brazil, albeit less than Pattaya. In SE Asia girls can refuse barfines because they have preconceived notions about the monger demographic. Some of the hotties have 4 or 5 sponsors and that allows them to just hang out with their girlfriends for the night. The girls in Patts love to party and if they have a day job they can afford to take nights off. In Latin America the girl just wouldn't show up for work unless she just wants to juice guys for drinks (see drink ****). The picky 8+ are a drag and a waste of space since they give no action 90% of the time. We know some guys overspend for the perceived white glove treatment. I will admit Thailand is tourist centric so a lot of punters are not easy on the eyes compared to Tijuana which is on the US border. Your friend made the correct choice to discontinue LOS. Latin America vs SE Asia has its pros and cons.The Thailand vs Brazil issue is one that has been engaging my attention for some time now. Reason being I want to retire to one of these 2 destinations next year. I spent 3 months in Thailand in 2015 and 3 months in Brazil earlier this year to aid in making a decision. Regarding our hobby Brazil wins hands down no question about it. No star fishes there and no picky prima donnas and all Brazilian women seem to enjoy sex and give the impression that they do it not just for the money. However, my choice is Thailand. Its hassle free. I like to walk around day and night without having to be concerned about being robbed. Furthermore Thailand is cheaper in every respect. Accomodation, food, groceries and yes sex. I'm currently checking out condominiums. Looking forward to rubbing shoulders with you guys next year.
Banana Boi
06-20-18, 21:52
Tmy choice is Thailand. Its hassle free. I like to walk around day and night without having to be concerned about being robbed. Furthermore Thailand is cheaper in every respect. Accomodation, food, groceries and yes sex. I'm currently checking out condominiums. Looking forward to rubbing shoulders with you guys next year.You won't regret the move. You'll find things very different moving here vs. Being here as a tourist. First and foremost, never having to pay a barfine at gogo and beer bars and free sex from girls if you play your cards right. If you are moving to Pattaya, feel free to PM me with any questions. I'm always here to help FKK guys.
Mr Enternational
06-20-18, 22:52
I'm currently checking out condominiums. Looking forward to rubbing shoulders with you guys next year.Best to get a temporary place then go searching when you arrive. You not only see what you are getting and where it is located, but you can bargain the price. Just stop into the office of any condo. They usually have a message board of people trying to sell and rent out their places.
Best to get a temporary place then go searching when you arrive. You not only see what you are getting and where it is located, but you can bargain the price. Just stop into the office of any condo. They usually have a message board of people trying to sell and rent out their places.Based on your experience Mr E, to live comfortably in Pattaya, what would your yearly budget be approximately?
Best to get a temporary place then go searching when you arrive. You not only see what you are getting and where it is located, but you can bargain the price. Just stop into the office of any condo. They usually have a message board of people trying to sell and rent out their places.Very good advice Mr. E. I saw some attractive looking condominiums near Jomtien beach on airbnb but will most likely follow your advice and check into a hotel and then go apartment hunting.
Thanks much, Banana Boi.
Mr Enternational
06-21-18, 09:09
Based on your experience Mr E, to live comfortably in Pattaya, what would your yearly budget be approximately?I'm a simple guy. But I have a buddy that lives in a 1 BR at VT Residences for 20000 baht says that he budgets US $3000 per month. Most of the time he comes in under that. Then you might get a house somewhere and end up needing even less.
Banana Boi
06-21-18, 09:49
I saw some attractive looking condominiums near Jomtien beach on airbnb but will most likely follow your advice and check into a hotel and then go apartment hunting.FYI Airbnb is officially illegal now in Thailand so be careful especially if this is a place you plan on retiring at. Not sure if they will come down on renters. I haven't heard any cases being moved forward yet. Any black mark could hinder your ability to renew your Visa.
Jomtien is nice but it's a bit far if you want to go to Soi 6 or Terminal 21, even with a motorbike.
Yes, if you haven't decided on an area yet, rent hotels or a guest house and go around to different parts of the city and start walking. Not only will you lose 10-20 kg in the first month but you will find many interesting bars you may have never found otherwise and believe me there are MANY never mentioned in ISG.
Based on your experience Mr E, to live comfortably in Pattaya, what would your yearly budget be approximately?
I'm a simple guy. But I have a buddy that lives in a 1 BR at VT Residences for 20000 baht says that he budgets US $3000 per month. Most of the time he comes in under that. Then you might get a house somewhere and end up needing even less.100,000 baht is a pretty good ballpark figure for most. You will have to monitor your hobbying budget or not hobby daily though. Don't forget to factor in things like making Visa runs every 60 days. You can rent apartments for under 10k baht near Central Pattaya if you are not looking for something new and have a motorbike. You can rent newer but very small condos near a baht bus route for 15-20k baht.
So that is it 10 girls in 24 hours. And yes I still made it for a quick McDonalds breakfast before getting the taxi. Thanks to Rob, the staff at Baraquda and of course all the girls for their good attitude and fun.
I want to know what GoGoGuyz or MP's monthly budget would be.
Uncle Volodya
06-21-18, 10:10
Very good advice Mr. E. I saw some attractive looking condominiums near Jomtien beach on airbnb but will most likely follow your advice and check into a hotel and then go apartment hunting.
Thanks much, Banana Boi.Lots of options so best to get a temporary place and do your homework. I liked staying at Centara and City Garden. But the latter has new management now and I don't' get the same deals I used to. Internet connection is also spotty. I have a friend who is at Urban and really likes it, but they only do long time leases so never tried personally.
You may also want to join the Pattaya Addicts board as there is a lot of info about condos and other daily non mongering life stuff: food, immigration issues, healthcare, services, etc.
I envy you and hope to follow in your footsteps when retirement time comes. Though I think I may end up trying to split my time 50/50 between SE Asia and Latin America.
Stay horny my friend.
Uncle V.
Uncle Volodya
06-21-18, 10:11
Jomtien is nice but it's a bit far if you want to go to Soi 6 or Terminal 21, even with a motorbike.
Terminal 21 finally finished?
Banana Boi
06-21-18, 10:14
Terminal 21 finally finished?Sent you a photo. You will see it almost looks complete. I'm actually optimistic it will open in October or November as scheduled.
Blanquiceleste
06-21-18, 10:15
I want to know what GoGoGuyz or MP's monthly budget would be.You are not paying attention! 5555.
MP doesn't HAVE a budget. A guy who can blow 100 K in a bar like Queen Club would not be bound by earthly matters like a budget.
Christian G
06-21-18, 10:33
I saw some attractive looking condominiums near Jomtien beach on airbnb but will most likely follow your advice and check into a hotel and then go apartment hunting.
I suggest you to avoid the huge tourist new condos. New condo like Unixx and The Base have very small room like 1 bedroom - 34 mq and are full of tourist and family with children. For living there all year I would like some building more small but with bigger apartment in a quiet area.
Mr Enternational
06-21-18, 17:09
I suggest you to avoid the huge tourist new condos. New condo like Unixx and The Base have very small room like 1 bedroom - 34 mq and are full of tourist and family with children. For living there all year I would like some building more small but with bigger apartment in a quiet area.My main wingman bought one at Maldives and it took them 4 years to build it. That thing is micro small. I am sure that he would not have bought it had he seen the actual place beforehand.
Well in response to your question I just go to Pattaya for quick 1-2 day visits which is why I take quite a few girls in a short period of time. So I don't have a monthly budget.
FYI Airbnb is officially illegal now in Thailand so be careful especially if this is a place you plan on retiring at. Not sure if they will come down on renters. I haven't heard any cases being moved forward yet. Any black mark could hinder your ability to renew your Visa.
Jomtien is nice but it's a bit far if you want to go to Soi 6 or Terminal 21, even with a motorbike.
Yes, if you haven't decided on an area yet, rent hotels or a guest house and go around to different parts of the city and start walking. Not only will you lose 10-20 kg in the first month but you will find many interesting bars you may have never found otherwise and believe me there are MANY never mentioned in ISG..
Hi All.
I have a question or 2 regarding Insomnia night club. Firstly if you become a VIP member how guaranteed are you of getting a table and how secure is the table if everyone is on the dance floor for example? Are the tables in a separate area? I have never been in the club so excuse my vagueness but it most represent better value then drinking at Agogos all night. Any and all insights and experiences are welcome.
Thanks.
Rob.
Mr Enternational
06-22-18, 00:07
I have a question or 2 regarding Insomnia night club. Firstly if you become a VIP member how guaranteed are you of getting a table and how secure is the table if everyone is on the dance floor for example?The VIP card is not about tables. It is about points and discounts on drinks. The dance floor is anywhere you decide to start dancing at, which 9.8 times out of 10 is right there at the table.
The VIP card is not about tables. It is about points and discounts on drinks. The dance floor is anywhere you decide to start dancing at, which 9.8 times out of 10 is right there at the table.Thanks Mr E. So I take tables are first in best dressed policy?
Mr Enternational
06-22-18, 02:44
So I take tables are first in best dressed policy?Remember we are talking Pattaya, not your uppity club back home. I usually go in shorts and flip flops. If you want a table and one is not available, then just slide in with someone else. No problem. I must tell you that most discos have more tables than seats though. So more than likely you will be standing unless you are like me and chicks volunteer their chair.
Last time board member Amex was in town he hit me up in the middle of the night to come down to Insomnia. I went down and saw he was already with 2 chicks at the table. For the longest I thought we were one big party, but come to find out the chicks were already at the table when he got there and he didn't know them from Adam. I wrote a report about almost leaving with one then some bullshit happening. This was sometime last year.
Remember we are talking Pattaya, not your uppity club back home. I usually go in shorts and flip flops. If you want a table and one is not available, then just slide in with someone else. No problem. I must tell you that most discos have more tables than seats though. So more than likely you will be standing unless you are like me and chicks volunteer their chair.
Last time board member Amex was in town he hit me up in the middle of the night to come down to Insomnia. I went down and saw he was already with 2 chicks at the table. For the longest I thought we were one big party, but come to find out the chicks were already at the table when he got there and he didn't know them from Adam. I wrote a report about almost leaving with one then some bullshit happening. This was sometime last year.Thanks.
I'm guilty of over thinking LOL.
I hit Soi 6 late Friday and there are hardly any punters out. I elected to do 3 passes down the alley. That was a mistake because I didn't grab the 2 dark skin lovelies my first pass. There was a slimy with a tight body but she was around my age and too old for my taste. Newbies, its not like Tijuana. You literally can have a 20 min. Drink with a regular and that new tang could be gone when you return. So the aforementioned chicks from Quicy Bar grab me for a quick drink. 1 round damage is 400 baht. I wasn't keen on quick bar because I came with the mindset of getting some fresh new booty. Definitely not in repeat mode unless they coming straight to my room and cutting the bar out. With Sai's psycho display last week I rather avoid the bar. They suggested I do a threesome. I wasn't quick to take the bait since Sai said she never been with a chick before. Unless I'm in Brazil or the chicks tongue is down the other chicks throat I am not game. Plus quicky has a resident lady boy that makes the bar dicey. Sai claims she saw me on Walking St. Who knows. She surely didn't greet me.
RJ,
Mostly the weekend warriors in town for splurging with their silicone dates and the club's diehards love tables (status symbol). For a simple man like myself that is not a heavy drinker I prefer throw back a juice, diet soda, or water and observe the talent and who has the most revealing outfit and best body. Ideally I prefer to hit the disco and hire a hottie within the first hour and be out the door no later than 3 am. I would never forgive myself for staying out till 7 am and not scoring any action in LOS. If you have a few bottles then a table makes sense. Bluntly I'm at the disco to score a hottie at a fair price and hope the bouncers are in a good mood. Summarily, I want to see friends and snag a hottie. I go to W Street for the boom boom. Its not a college frat party for me. The top hip hop disco in AC typically don't want you to sit unless you reserve a table. Last time I was there I sat down but it was after 4 am.
FYI Airbnb is officially illegal now in Thailand so be careful especially if this is a place you plan on retiring at. Not sure if they will come down on renters. I haven't heard any cases being moved forward yet. Any black mark could hinder your ability to renew your Visa.
Jomtien is nice but it's a bit far if you want to go to Soi 6 or Terminal 21, even with a motorbike.
Yes, if you haven't decided on an area yet, rent hotels or a guest house and go around to different parts of the city and start walking. Not only will you lose 10-20 kg in the first month but you will find many interesting bars you may have never found otherwise and believe me there are MANY never mentioned in ISG...........I did not know Airbnb was illegal in Thailand. Nevertheless, my plan is really to stay in a nice condo in Jomtien. I prefer the less frenetic environment of Jomtien for habitation. I have no problems with the baht bus. During the day I want to shack up with a civilian who, apart from taking care of my physical needs, would wash, clean and occasionally cook. We'd frolic on the beach, dine at restaurants and do touristy stuff. She'd go home to her family just before nightfall which is when I'd get ready to hit the clubs, go gos etc. for some serious drinking and mongering on site. Rinse and repeat the next day. That's my retirement plan.
RJ,
Mostly the weekend warriors in town for splurging with their silicone dates and the club's diehards love tables (status symbol). For a simple man like myself that is not a heavy drinker I prefer throw back a juice, diet soda, or water and observe the talent and who has the most revealing outfit and best body. Ideally I prefer to hit the disco and hire a hottie within the first hour and be out the door no later than 3 am. I would never forgive myself for staying out till 7 am and not scoring any action in LOS. If you have a few bottles then a table makes sense. Bluntly I'm at the disco to score a hottie at a fair price and hope the bouncers are in a good mood. Summarily, I want to see friends and snag a hottie. I go to W Street for the boom boom. Its not a college frat party for me. The top hip hop disco in AC typically don't want you to sit unless you reserve a table. Last time I was there I sat down but it was after 4 am.Thanks Cool.
It probably will be to party and have a hot body next to me in the morning to begin the day. The theory at the moment is for me and my 2 friends is to have a table with a bottle and invite some TF girls to join us and also check out the girls already there. Our usual routine is visiting Soi 6,7 & 8 or Kinaree in the afternoon and Agogos at night but next visit we are cutting down on the Agogos and looking at other options to find some girls. By 2 am we usually have 2 sessions under our belts so getting laid isn't a necessity but will be nice.
Thanks for your input it has the information I was seeking.
Rob.
I pretty much never pick a girl on soi 6 who doesn't act interested in me first. Today I see a woman, short, maybe 4' 10" and young. I think she said 23. She had nice big boobs for her size that she said were natural. We go up to room and she tells me to take shower by myself. I want her to join me but give in and take shower alone. When I get out of shower she tells me to pay her. I say no, I pay after and she is adamant I pay her then. So I say, no I am going to leave. She says okay pay after. She didn't speak english well but I understood her. Then she goes to take shower and shuts the door. The shower was in the room. I am kind of pissed and think this isn't worth it. So I say I am leaving, I get dressed and leave. She goes out different way and talks to mamasan. I have no idea what she said. Mamasan comes over to me and asks what happened. I say what I said above. Mamasan gives me back my barfine and I leave..A few months ago, in one of my rare occasions, I was able to find something to play with on Soi 6. Ironically, it was also from Click Bar (left side off Second Road near the 7-11) as well. The girl I met at Click Bar had huge natural boobs, so I wonder if we are talking about the same girl. Her name is May and her English is not so great. She's is young and no more than 5'1, petite but those boobs are big. She also has a decent looking face. Her service to me was of excellent quality for only 1000 baht which included a CIM finish. I had a big drink bill of 1200 baht between me, her, and her girl friend, so I didn't have to pay a barfine for the room. Also I didn't want to use those nasty rooms anyway, as I was staying at Discovery Beach Hotel next door. Literally about a 30 seconds walk, so no issues there. Back in the my room she did everything I asked, including the CIM. I think her BJ only rate at Click is 800 total, full service is 1300 with room. It's better to sit and chill with these girls for a bit as it increases your chances for better service, not every time, but better odds. You sometimes can get a vibe of the service you are going to get ONLY if you've been in this game for awhile and can pick up on cues and demeanors. The last time I LINED her when I was in Pattaya about a week ago, she was working the same time you were there. But she she also told me that she moves around from Click, Red Point, and even Dolls from time. Paying first and upfront means that maybe they feel you are a newbie and may have trouble with you OR the girl doesn't really like you and is going to give you bad service. Hence it is easy to cash and dash. Be careful with doing that. Just tell them that you will pay when done and even willing to tip for good service.
Banana Boi
06-23-18, 10:12
During the day I want to shack up with a civilian who, apart from taking care of my physical needs, would wash, clean and occasionally cook. We'd frolic on the beach, dine at restaurants and do touristy stuff. She'd go home to her family just before nightfall which is when I'd get ready to hit the clubs, go gos etc. for some serious drinking and mongering on site. Rinse and repeat the next day. That's my retirement plan.Curious on what you or others feel is a fair price to pay for such service from a hot girl.
Curious on what you or others feel is a fair price to pay for such service from a hot girl.I doubt that I could get a hot girl to wash, clean and cook for me in Thailand or anywhere else for that matter being in my mid 60's. I met a DIA girl in Bangkok in 2015 who spent considerable time with me but she was in her late 30's a little overweight but had a cute face and was tall which I like. She never asked for money. Just took her to restaurants and tourist places and bought her the occasional gift. She more than compensated through interaction with locals and always had my interests at heart by, for example, alerting me to potential rip-offs many of which I could be aware off on my own actually. I find female company sometimes useful also for non-mongering moments. If I get someone like that in Pattaya I'd be satisfied.
Mr Enternational
06-23-18, 12:46
Curious on what you or others feel is a fair price to pay for such service from a hot girl.Well first off he said civilian, so the price would be 0. Second off, it would never happen because he said day time, and civilians in Pattaya have jobs to go to in the day time. It is not like Dominican Republic where mfs are sitting around all day everyday with nothing to do. But if he could change up some of his parameters then he would be golden.
Only lazy hookers are going to be available in the day time. And that is only available to sleep and run your a/c bill up. Day time in Pattaya is for running all your errands and getting together with your buddies and shit. If he thinks he is going to want to hit clubs and stuff every night, that shit will probably last about 2 weeks. People that live in Orlando don't go to theme parks everyday.
Also, if he thinks that he can not get a hot chick to come over to cook and clean because he is in his 60's, then he does not know Pattaya very well. Most of my friends are in their 60's and the problem they have is getting them to leave. And after a couple of those chicks cook for him, he will not want to eat in a restaurant again.
Some of my friends stress about cleaning before a chick comes over. I say what kind of shit is that? I get my civilian chicks to come over and clean up after the last chick I had when they get off work. The first thing they say when they come in is look at all this hair. I say that is why you are here. Then I leave and they send me a message when they are finished.
When new chicks come over they always trip out because I have all kind of shit for women: maxipads, toothbrushes, makeup remover pads, bands to tie hair up with, disposible shower caps. I tell them when they come here they won't have an excuse that I don't have something they need.
I would not say to try looking for a chick to do the things he mentioned. You should meet so many people in Pattaya on a daily basis that shit just happens to fall into your lap. Go with the flow and see where it takes you.
RogerBoner
06-23-18, 22:36
1. Red Car Walking Street Pattaya.
We started out rushing from bar to club to disco to GoGo bar. In Smoke and Kisses near the end of the street I met Yaying, one of the most beautiful young women that I have ever seen. She and her friends played with my erect cock through my trousers as I DFKd her. I wouldn't let my mates touch this beauty and I stared into her eyes caressed her hair and admired her perfect proportions. She gave me her Line ID to meet up tomorrow.
In a naked GoGo bar we were sat next to the stage where two girls were toying with each other. After lady drinks I leaned forward and stuck my tongue into one of the girls arses. I stuck my index finger in further than I've ever done before. Another girl had taken out my cock and was wanking me and keeping me on the brink. She had big tits and offered me a BJ upstairs for 1000 baht. I said No so she said OK 500 baht. I should have said yes but this was our first lads bonding night.
We ended up in Red Car which is full of desperate looking older women who are still very attractive. I was challenged to Long Time a tall haughty looking mid thirties woman who I didn't particularly fancy. I don't usually have sex after any drinks and never use Viagra. On this occasion me and the woman shared a Kamagra gel sachet during the bike ride to my hotel. We had hours of 69 and sex and then a proper bonk in the morning before she left. We hardly spoke and I decided that because I couldn't remember much that I would try not to have drunken sex again. At one stage I was using a new vibrator on her but had no idea how to use the controls, she did and tried to use it on my bottom but I said No Thanks. I saw her the next evening at Red Car and we ignored one another which is the correct etiquette, or so I've been told. Her mate asked me how it went and I told her that the woman wasn't happy because I'd taken 2 hours to come. That's why I don't like Viagra or Kamagra.
2. Smoke and Kisses.
Beautiful Yaying was already drunk at 7.00 pm. She fell over in the shower of the upstairs ST room. 69, CG doggy and CIM. I would have been more than happy just to stare at her pale skin, dreamy eyes, long silky hair and luscious kissing lips. Her features are perfectly symmetrical and I flinched at the privilege of kissing her mouth. Later in the holiday she found my ThaiFriendly profile and we exchanged compliments and silly messages. I have some photos of her. Her beauty was breathtaking and I still think about her.
3. Area 51 Soi Diana Blonde Beem x 2.
My favourite GoGo bar is Papagayo on Soi Diana. I got hard the instant I saw Nicky Love, their superstar attraction. She squeezed it and called over the Mamisan and her friends for a squeeze and a flirt. Nicky Love is as extravagant and super fabulous as Tina Turner as The Acid Queen in Ken Russels "Tommy" written by The Who. Thin, beautiful, squirmy and manically crazy. She wouldn't stop moving, dancing and sitting on my lap with her tongue licking mine. She was too much for me to handle. During my hols I went back up to six more times to flirt with the Mamasan and consider taking on Nicky. She was just too much for me to handle. The Mamasan confided that the man who took her the previous night couldn't perform with her.
After a few too many I went alone to Area 51 and ended up being toyed with by blonde Beem wearing a tooth brace. In Thailand some people wear them as fashion accessories. She and her young friend were playing with me on the sofa so I took her for LT. I was too drunk so gave her hours of Pussy Worship. She said that I wouldn't leave her alone for the whole night. But the moonlight made her feminine curves look beautiful and I couldn't stop caressing her. FS in the morning before she left to collect her daughter.
In the final week I stayed at LK Metropole directly opposite Area 51 so would pop in for a game of pool and took her for ST session. She wanted more Pussy Worship and covered my bed with towels for her gushing. But I was completely sober this time so ensured that my needs were also taken care of. She claims that I have given her the best ever oral. Afterwards I enjoyed playing pool with her and her mates. The young friend that had also been playing with me got booked by an obese man in his late 70's. I asked Beem to intervene but she told me not to worry, that the young girl had worked there for 3 years and that she didn't have to accept the booking. I found it disturbing and want everyone to be beautiful and perfect.
4. The Blue Heeler Soi Lengkee.
I'm Lord Byron drinking on my balcony at 4. 30 am the next night and I spot a slim girl in a bar across the street. I got dressed to go over to speak to her but by the time I got dressed she had already been driven home. I was offered a drink and then barfined her and took her for a sleepy ST consisting of a bit of missionary followed by CIM. I liked the idea of seeing someone I fancied and ordering them upstairs like an olde worlde aristocrat.
5. [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901)'s BJ Bar Soi LK Metro Two Girls.
I'd always wanted a FFFM BJ after seeing porn vids but thought a 2 girl BJ would be good. 700 baht per girl for about 40 minutes. The problem was that they used wet wipes a lot to wipe off each others saliva as they changed position. This stopped a natural flow but also ensured that I didn't come too quickly. Afterwards I had a drink and a couple of games of pool with the specialist who gave me CIM. She told the other girls that my sperm tasted nice and guessed incorrectly what I'd had for my last two meals and was also mistaken when she said that I'd drunk coffee with cream. She must take pride in her job to think this way. I sought her out for a second sperm tasting session during my final week in Pattaya.
6. La Poste BJ Bar. Soi Lingkee.
I'd popped in one afternoon and it had the raucous atmosphere of a bar from a Wild West American movie. Customers were drinking at the bar with their arms around semi-naked women. I went back later and ordered a Coke Lite at the bar. An unattractive mid-40's woman approached and I accepted her offer to go to a secluded area round the back. As we undressed and I exposed my boner her friend arrived with our drinks and bag of wet wipes and oil. They both giggled and played with my cock and balls before I was left with one woman. 700 baht for 45 minutes and she would do FS for 1000 baht. Whilst being rimmed with my legs in the air I watched a giant cockroach walking around the floor. She commented on my strong power just before CIM. As I sat at the bar with her afterwards to finish my drink I noticed that it was midnight, closing time at [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901)'s and wondered of the spunk lover might be knocking off. Maybe I could ST her back to my hotel.
7. Massage Parlour LK Metro.
After La Poste I still had he horn but [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901)'s was closed. I found another parlour still open and paid another 700 baht for yet another BJ. The BJ soon turned into a handjob. I stopped her and said Mouth. She said that in Thailand a BJ includes HJ for half the time. I argued and she said that I had a bad heart and threatened to call The Police. This made me laugh out loud and she lightened up and gave me a good BJ.
8. Phuket. Noina Freelance Nymphomanic.
After a late first night I awoke in the afternoon and ventured down to the Hotel bar for a drink. I noticed a Tour Guide Booth across the street so went to look at some maps of the city. Tour Booth woman was talking to a beautiful woman wearing a figure hugging dress sitting on her motorbike, I invited her to play a couple of games of pool in the Hotel bar and we had a couple of drinks.
Within the hour we were fucking in every orifice. She orgasmed easily as she hadn't had sex for 10 days. She was delighted at this encounter. It was making love. She is 40 years old and I have lots of sex photos of her and some superb ones of her dressed in lingerie looking like a Bond girl. 1000 baht for two and a half hour and she wanted to return at midnight but I declined.
The next morning my lob-on boner suggested that I make Noina my girlfriend in Phuket. I saw her 4 complete days, not 24 hours because she has a daughter. We went to lunch, dined out at the Night Market. She drove me around on her bike. She's well known and other girls that saw me with her would stick their thumbs up and say that she was Number 1. I took her to a posh shopping center and said that I would buy her anything that she wanted, a posh dress, shoes, handbag, anything. She just chose two discounted thongs and a bra totalling 500 baht!
She was excellent company and almost destroyed my power with several all night sessions. I gave her 10,000 baht a couple of days in as a gift.
9. Nana Walked me back to hotel and stayed over.
I was out with my mate and Noina was with her pals but we weren't together that night. I got drunk and lost on my way back to the hotel. A woman asked if I was ok and walked me back to the hotel. Before you could say "Bloody Hell this is starting to sound like the plot of a 70's porn film" she was in my bed giving me her all. The next morning I had to as who she was, how we had met and whether we had sex. There was a filled condom under my foot as I asked. She informed me that we'd had sex and she'd given me a BJ. My mate in the next room banged on my door at 7.00 am in the morning asking me to keep the noise down.
Two mornings later at 10.00 am Nana started banging on my hotel door. "You forget me so soon honey?" and called me by my real name. This didn't go down very well will sleepy Noina nuzzling my shoulder at the time. She brought it up and Nana sent some texts which I said must be from one of the girls in Pattaya.
10.3 some in the Devil's Den.
Returning to Pattaya for my final week I just had to tick off The Devil's Den for it's notoriety.
The 2 young girls at Dragon's Den were in their late twenties and the price was 3000 baht for one and a half hours. They used a towel to wipe off each others saliva. 69 as one sucked and the other rimmed. CG, Mish back to double BJ then CIM. I've had plenty of 2 hour sessions with the Water St girls and there is never a dull moment. I was a bit meek when I asked them to perform a lesbian show. They said that there was plenty of time and they would wait for me to regain my power. So we cuddled and had a half hour snooze! I probably went to sleep. There are mirrors around the room and on the ceiling so I could see the pussy licking. What followed was more or less a repeat performance of round 1. It was lacklustre because I was only there to tick this place off my list. They never met the real me.
11 and 12 Club Excite, Soi Excite BJ Bar.
Someone in The Scooter Bar heard me mention [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901)'s and recommended Excite. I chose a lady with a blonde bob. We went to the rear couch and she pulled a curtain around us to give me a sleazy BJ as others drank and smoked in the crowed bar. My head was giddy with the total decadence of the scene. However she wasn't very good at the job. After about twenty minutes I thrust upward to get some more sensation. She withdrew my cock to avoid CIM and wiped my bell end hard with her thumb.
"You come?
"No!
She apologized. My cock went soft but I said that I would still pay her. She told me to wait and after a few minutes another more experienced women appeared to complete the task. She said "Ooh you come for me now baby etc. " with my cock in her mouth. I laughed as it sounded like Rob Brydon's "Small Man trapped in a box" voice. It didn't put me off and I bought both girls a drink at the bar and thought about the excellent customer service that I had just received.
13. Bilabong Beer Bar VIP 2 girl adoration (no sex).
I didn't realize that the red sofa was the VIP area. The previous evening I'd been talking to an ex Papagaya GoGo dancer and her friend here. After stilted conversation for the first hour suddenly we really got on and they asked me to take them both out the following night to all the GoGo Bars an they would make me a big man and flatter my ego etc.
The ex-Pappagayo dancer joined me and the her friend and Kevin who had started rolling joints openly. Soon I was blowing smoke into the girls mouth and FKing. Somehow because of where we were we were the focus of the whole bar who were just watching the goings on. This flirting was so sweet.
All of a sudden her friend that I'd forgotten about came rushing towards me with her arms open. She hugged and kissed me so much that we ended up covering our faces with cushions as both girls French kissed me with real passion at the same time. Guys around the bar were mouthing "Two?" and doing thumbs up signs. All I was doing was buying the occasional Lady Drink. This went on for until 2.00 am. I would just stare into their wide open eyes. They appeared to have submitted to me without any self-consciousness. I couldn't understand why they were so open to me. I never got a boner because by now I was a spent force. I will never forget their wide-eyed looks of gratitude when I handed them 1000 baht each before I left. The second girl almost fainted in disbelief. I won't forget this particular evening.
I had never been ripped off or taken advantage of in any way. I've come back super confident and happy in my own skin. This has been the highlight of my adult life.
Christian G
06-24-18, 09:23
10.3 some in the Devil's Den.
Returning to Pattaya for my final week I just had to tick off The Devil's Den for it's notoriety.
The 2 young girls at Dragon's Den were in their late twenties and the price was 3000 baht for one and a half hours.At Devil's (not Dragon's) Den the price for 2 girls for 90 min in-call service is 4500 baht, not 3000 baht!
http://devilsdenthailand.com/in-call.html
2 girls for 90 min out-call service is 5000 baht.
http://devilsdenthailand.com/out-call.html
LittleBigMan
06-24-18, 14:22
I did not know Airbnb was illegal in Thailand. Nevertheless, my plan is really to stay in a nice condo in Jomtien. I prefer the less frenetic environment of Jomtien for habitation. I have no problems with the baht bus. During the day I want to shack up with a civilian who, apart from taking care of my physical needs, would wash, clean and occasionally cook. We'd frolic on the beach, dine at restaurants and do touristy stuff. She'd go home to her family just before nightfall which is when I'd get ready to hit the clubs, go gos etc. for some serious drinking and mongering on site. Rinse and repeat the next day. That's my retirement plan.I think lots of guys fantasy is have a women clean etc and take care of their needs, but once you start to milk the cow that is when the trouble starts. I know a number of cases of guys who had maids starting then hooking up once that happens it is clean it yourself or they get lazy. Just last week having lunch with a few expats one told me so and so who I told don't do it, that he tag his maid and after a week not even on her day off decided to just go out and drink with her friends. Nothing is free it comes with a price one way or another. If you want to retire happy do the cleaning yourself.
Member #4698
06-24-18, 15:01
I think lots of guys fantasy is have a women clean etc and take care of their needs, but once you start to milk the cow that is when the trouble starts. I know a number of cases of guys who had maids starting then hooking up once that happens it is clean it yourself or they get lazy. Just last week having lunch with a few expats one told me so and so who I told don't do it, that he tag his maid and after a week not even on her day off decided to just go out and drink with her friends. Nothing is free it comes with a price one way or another. If you want to retire happy do the cleaning yourself.Wait a minute. I would assume that as long as you are not humping the maid you can expect her to do her job. Right? Else get rid of her. It's something along the lines of don't shit where you eat. I find it hard to believe that in the land of pussy some guys can't keep their dicks in their pants for a couple of hours and can't control their urge to stoop the maid. 555. Get an ugly maid if that is your problem. That said, I have had the desire to stoop my female barber. She is single, in her 30's, and still desirable, but I control that impulse because she cuts my hair really good and I don't want to find another barber.
Wait a minute. I would assume that as long as you are not humping the maid you can expect her to do her job. Right? Else get rid of her. It's something along the lines of don't shit where you eat. I find it hard to believe that in the land of pussy some guys can't keep their dicks in their pants for a couple of hours and can't control their urge to stoop the maid. 555. Get an ugly maid if that is your problem. That said, I have had the desire to stoop my female barber. She is single, in her 30's, and still desirable, but I control that impulse because she cuts my hair really good and I don't want to find another barber.It was simply a case of which is more important? To fuck her or have her continue to do your hair (as just a friend). I don't get this so called fantasy about humping the maid. Some guys have imagination fuelled too much by porn sites.
Yes I have fucked a Hotel maid, but I met her at the Thermae years ago not in my Hotel room. Getting a happy ending at the hair dresser seems extremely daft to me and comes with dangers of lady boys working there. I have had my room cleaned in Stockholm by very doable Thai girls, but did not try to chat them up.
My Mrs is not a housewife in any great sense. She does cook food. She has other priorities not related to cleaning the house. I obviously chose her for other reasons. I can always hire someone more ugly to clean the house if I don't want to do it myself. If my Mrs gives me a good fuck often, that saves me money.
Can't believe Arnie had to fuck the maid and get her pregnant. She wasn't even pretty or hot. He must have been extremely horny, to loose that control completely. You just don't do these things at your home. He should have fired her instead.
Mr Enternational
06-24-18, 16:10
I don't get this so called fantasy about humping the maid. Some guys have imagination fuelled too much by porn sites.Come on man. You know everything that guys want to do it is because they saw it in porn. Worked out great for me the other way around when I was working at Dominoes Pizza for four months my first year of college though.
Why continue to pay a bar fine when you already know a chick? I have never understood that. If most didn't go with customers there would be no "bar fine" and no "short time up to the girl"... same as maybe a restaurant or dentist office. That is just a way to trick you into paying more because you are thinking you are getting something special.
Why do you think this was a game? Women have periods. At the same time, if she would have let you bar fine her and she started bleeding all over your bed then you would have been mad that she didn't tell you. Instead of being vindictive, just ask when is a good day.
Dude. You are aware that these are prostitutes right? They came to Pattaya to fuck foreigners for money. When you start fucking them for free, THAT is the time to be surprised.It's pretty simple. I continue to pay a barfine because I still go to the go go bar. This is my entertainment and I will play by their rules. I've been discounted many times. Where I read that customers have paid 1500, while I pay 1000. I don't work, so what else do I do with my time? I bang almost a different girl everyday for the last 4 years, but there needs to be a "chase" involved without "emotional attachments. " I can easily call up a LINE contact, go to the soapies, or pick up a girl for cheaper sex than at the go go bar. I've done those things and it was boring. However, it's the thrill of the chase and game playing with trophy girls at the go go bars is what excites me. Whoever thinks there are no games being played by the trophy girls at the top end go go bars, is highly mistaken. I enjoy playing with all these hustlers. And I enjoy winning. I know I'm winning when I can walk into a top end go go bar and get the "I did everything you wanted, but you still swap me out look" from 30 to 40 different girls who all thought they were "the best" in that club at playing customers.
Sex in itself, to be honest with you, is not a problem where I come from. I have had opportunities with fashion models, girl deejays, actresses, etc. (I think you get the picture). Where I come from, rarely do I have to pay for anything. I can go to a club or restaurant and people would always offer to pay my tab. So to get out of this spotlight, my father suggested I go to other countries to "play" safely. I am single, no girlfriend, no kids. So there is no guilt on my part for what I do by paying for sex. I've learn that free sex comes with emotional attachments and breaks hearts. And I play this game safely and with a conscience. Girls might get pissed at me, but I still can fall asleep guilt free because I paid them generously for their time and service. To me sex is nothing more than an exchange of entertainment, money, and exercise to stay in shape. It beats a gym membership. But it's that game to get these girls that I target that is so thrilling. Who else can say that he was able to twice bang one of the sexiest waitress at the Hooters Pattaya for 8000 baht long time? This was on first try, meaning, mine and her first encounter as a customer. And if anybody thinks that's so easy. Please be my guest and next time when you are at Hooters, ask a sexy waitress to fuck you for money. And please report about it on this site.
Also you asked why I thought that short hair model at What's Up was hustling and lying about being on the rag. I've been around top end go go bar girls and strippers for a long time and played this game with them for many years now. I knew things about her even before I called her out on the barfine. And besides, if she was barfineable, mamasan would have asked me every time she sat with me for a drink. I know that club and how it works in there. That's why the girls don't like to play with me. They know if I want sex, I call them over, buy them 5 drinks, don't even force them to drink them, pay the barfine, then pay them generously for services rendered, and kick them out because I like to sleep alone. Also it's hard to explain to just normal people about my intuition. But within my life, I've shared dinners and partied with an axe murderer, a mafia hitman and his boss, politicians, and all sorts of characters and hustlers. You learn to read people and read them well or else you get eaten up alive. It's pretty much been my life and I keep getting better and still growing.
Chocha Monger
06-24-18, 21:20
Come on man. You know everything that guys want to do it is because they saw it in porn. Worked out great for me the other way around when I was working at Dominoes Pizza for four months my first year of college though.It worked out great for you, as in the girls were tipping you for delivering extra sausage and dipping sauce along with the piping hot Dominoes' Pizza?
Who said anything about a maid? In 2015 I met a self-employed girl on DIA who I banged, was quite willing to spend time with me in her free time which was good enough for me. During the day I want to have nothing to do with buddies, that's me time when I do groceries and other stuff that I need to do. I would rather have a woman with me when I do those and other things and when I get frisky the needful is done. She must also wash, clean and cook. I believe you guys are thinking of a hot girl doing these chores; good for you if you are successful with that but I am quite willing to have a plain Jane take care of that business; hot girls are for night time. Also night time is when I will hang out with mates, drink and monger. You guys stick to your plan, I'll stick to mine. If my daytime girl gets lazy, I'll just say adios and have her replaced by another until I get what I want but will enjoy each and everyone while she lasts. Surely that can't be that hard to achieve. To each his own.
Come on man. You know everything that guys want to do it is because they saw it in porn. Worked out great for me the other way around when I was working at Dominoes Pizza for four months my first year of college though.You didn't clean pools thru the day LOL.
I think lots of guys fantasy is have a women clean etc and take care of their needs, but once you start to milk the cow that is when the trouble starts. I know a number of cases of guys who had maids starting then hooking up once that happens it is clean it yourself or they get lazy. Just last week having lunch with a few expats one told me so and so who I told don't do it, that he tag his maid and after a week not even on her day off decided to just go out and drink with her friends. Nothing is free it comes with a price one way or another. If you want to retire happy do the cleaning yourself.I saw a re-run of a Seinfeld episode that addressed this same delicate situation.
Member #4698
06-24-18, 22:26
I saw a re-run of a Seinfeld episode that addressed this same delicate situation.A classic episode: George needs to hire a new secretary, but reluctantly he is forced to admit to all of the highly qualified and outrageously attractive applicants that if he hires any of them, they are so beautiful and sexy, that he won't be able to take his eyes off them and do any work. So he hires the plainest and least sexy applicant available thinking he has finally made the right move. Unfortunately, he shags his new plain Jane secretary while working late at the office and she now has leverage over him. Very funny stuff!
A classic episode: George needs to hire a new secretary, but reluctantly he is forced to admit to all of the highly qualified and outrageously attractive applicants that if he hires any of them, they are so beautiful and sexy, that he won't be able to take his eyes off them and do any work. So he hires the plainest and least sexy applicant available thinking he has finally made the right move. Unfortunately, he shags his new plain Jane secretary while working late at the office and she now has leverage over him. Very funny stuff!And in another episode Jerry starts to hump his cleaner and she still expects to be paid for the cleaning but doesn't clean at all. 2 break up episodes.
Member #4698
06-25-18, 01:56
And in another episode Jerry starts to hump his cleaner and she still expects to be paid for the cleaning but doesn't clean at all. 2 break up episodes.Yeah, I remember that one too. Jerry became confused over whether he was paying the girl to clean his apartment which she was no longer doing or for making love to him, so the girl got mad at him and walked out. Very, very funny.
LittleBigMan
06-25-18, 02:19
Wait a minute. I would assume that as long as you are not humping the maid you can expect her to do her job. Right? Else get rid of her. It's something along the lines of don't shit where you eat. I find it hard to believe that in the land of pussy some guys can't keep their dicks in their pants for a couple of hours and can't control their urge to stoop the maid. 555. Get an ugly maid if that is your problem. That said, I have had the desire to stoop my female barber. She is single, in her 30's, and still desirable, but I control that impulse because she cuts my hair really good and I don't want to find another barber.That is exactly my thought wait a minute but from what I've seen and heard the reason people live here mainly is because the little head is doing the thinking and when it comes to that some people just don't have any control. You be surprise that even the Thais understand this so those who want to try to nab a farang advertise or make themselves available to clean rooms, maid or a nanny to get their foot in the door. It is the same those who advertise themselves on Thai Friendly and other website hiding in sheep clothing? people aren't like you they only think in the moment!
Mr Enternational
06-25-18, 03:26
That is exactly my thought wait a minute but from what I've seen and heard the reason people live here mainly is because the little head is doing the thinking and when it comes to that some people just don't have any control. You be surprise that even the Thais understand this so those who want to try to nab a farang advertise or make themselves available to clean rooms, maid or a nanny to get their foot in the door. It is the same those who advertise themselves on Thai Friendly and other website hiding in sheep clothing? people aren't like you they only think in the moment!You are exactly right. Chick hit me up on Thai Friendly at the beginning of May to ask if I wanted her to clean my room. I said not right now, but I will let you know when. We settled on a price and everything. Finally got time I needed her to clean. I sent her a message and she replied asking if I would rather fuck. And this was an older unattractive woman. I told her no that I just wanted to clean and she went silent for a couple of weeks. I guess she really needed money a couple of weeks later when she contacted me asking if she could clean today. I didn't even answer.
I had boinked another TF chick for money. I decided to hit her up one day to see if she wanted to make some extra money cleaning my room. She came over and as usual I left. Wasn't even 30 minutes later she was sending me a message saying she was finished. I came to let her out. I didn't inspect the job until later and saw how shitty it was. She didn't even wash the 3 dirty glasses I had, mop the floor, or clean the mirrors. I saw her in 808 maybe a week later and told her that she didn't clean worth a shit. She said mf you have been to my room; you already knew that! All I could do was laugh because she was telling the truth. When I first met her and went to her room, the first thing I said was you need to clean this mf up. Dust and shit everywhere. My allergies went berserk in there.
Banana Boi
06-26-18, 04:41
Decided to hit Crazy House to see what all the fuss was about when RobJones and others were recently in town. I'm assuming I have totally different taste in women than them because I can still call this place the Dog House. I did buy a drink for one pretty petite girl but it was not one who I recall being mentioned in any of their posts. She said she rarely works.
Wildcats - 3 visits here last week. Struck out bad. Anyone know where Bee and Mimi are?
Eden Club seems to have reopened again. I didn't go upstairs though.
Bypass. I was expecting to just walk in and out of this bar but to my surprise I actually saw a decent looking girl. A bit older but I liked her. Also saw an ex-Sapphire girl there who I liked back in the day.
Super girl. This place always surprises me with a hidden gem buried in with a bunch of below average gogo girls. She seemed like a hustler with a Chinese customer so I didn't bother waiting to buy her a drink. Had other shitty gogo bars to go to.
Misty's. I can see someone like Syzygies loving the girls here. They really aren't bad looking but not my type. I do like one of the coyote girls who I think is one of the prettiest in Pattaya.
Airport. Nothing. Anyone know where Fa is?
Of interest I had 2 different girls in 2 different clubs complain about the same thing to me this week. They both complained that there are fewer and fewer Japanese customers being replaced by Chinese and Koreans who do not buy them as many drinks. I have no statistical confirmation of their claims. I have a difficult time telling the Koreans and Japanese apart. One girl said it's easy, the Japanese wear more fashionable clothing. Low season has begun. Girls complaining about fewer customers. Girls changing clubs weekly. Great for me!
Mr Enternational
06-26-18, 06:33
They both complained that there are fewer and fewer Japanese customers being replaced by Chinese and Koreans who do not buy them as many drinks.Hmmm. Let posters in the Angeles City thread tell it, Koreans have ruined the place by spending too freely on drinks for themselves and the girls and paying bar fines just to go bar hop with chicks without fucking them.
I am in Angeles four months a year. The price there are out of control. Blame it on the Korean. They come down on a three or four hour flight right into Angeles. They do not care what they pay.
Banana Boi
06-26-18, 07:17
Hmmm. Let posters in the Angeles City thread tell it, Koreans have ruined the place by spending too freely on drinks for themselves and the girls and paying bar fines just to go bar hop with chicks without fucking them.They spend too freely here too and are ruining it for all of us. Lady drinks are now 220 baht at some bars and there are some girls I see sucking down 10-15 tequilas per hour. They're also willing to pay full price of 3000ST and 5000 for LT. I truly believe gogo bars are pricing themselves out of the market with too many Weekend Millionaires. Fewer and fewer gogo bars month after month. Unwise owners only looking for short term gains rather than a solid long term business model.
Funny. I hear that type of complaint a lot. Especially from locals who find Grade A pussy way out of reach when foreigners descend on their patch like locust. It is a matter of perspective or relativity. LOL! Someone posted about Karma earlier. HEH HEH
They spend too freely here too and are ruining it for all of us. Lady drinks are now 220 baht at some bars and there are some girls I see sucking down 10-15 tequilas per hour. They're also willing to pay full price of 3000ST and 5000 for LT. I truly believe gogo bars are pricing themselves out of the market with too many Weekend Millionaires. Fewer and fewer gogo bars month after month. Unwise owners only looking for short term gains rather than a solid long term business model..
They spend too freely here too and are ruining it for all of us. Lady drinks are now 220 baht at some bars and there are some girls I see sucking down 10-15 tequilas per hour. They're also willing to pay full price of 3000ST and 5000 for LT. I truly believe gogo bars are pricing themselves out of the market with too many Weekend Millionaires. Fewer and fewer gogo bars month after month. Unwise owners only looking for short term gains rather than a solid long term business model.They are ruining it here at FKKs, Germany where I am now with their 3-3-3 (3 inches, 3 minutes, 300 euros). The Romanians are all spoilt and expect me to go 3-3-3 too, LOL.
Wildcats - 3 visits here last week. Struck out bad. Anyone know where Bee and Mimi are?
Always get their line ID when they sit with you, its unlikely guys reading this will know who Bee or Mimi are or have more current information than you do being on the ground.
They spend too freely here too and are ruining it for all of us. Lady drinks are now 220 baht at some bars and there are some girls I see sucking down 10-15 tequilas per hour. They're also willing to pay full price of 3000ST and 5000 for LT. I truly believe gogo bars are pricing themselves out of the market with too many Weekend Millionaires. Fewer and fewer gogo bars month after month. Unwise owners only looking for short term gains rather than a solid long term business model.Its always been in the 2500 range for short time. Maybe up 500 baht. LT was normally around 4000 when I first started. Whats funny is Pattaya seems to have priced themselves over the going rate in the Bangkok gogo's in some cases. If your going to buy them lady drinks that are that high then they don't need to come to your hotel to make their money. That's worse than the higher ST and LT rates. Buying five of those lady drinks is a shag on soi 6 or beach road. Good news is the Thai baht is correcting itself back to 2016 levels so a nice long ST is really only around $100. Unfortunately for our Canadian friends its rather steep at $150 with their awful exchange rate. Only 84 British pounds for our limey friends.
They spend too freely here too and are ruining it for all of us. Lady drinks are now 220 baht at some bars and there are some girls I see sucking down 10-15 tequilas per hour. They're also willing to pay full price of 3000ST and 5000 for LT. I truly believe gogo bars are pricing themselves out of the market with too many Weekend Millionaires. Fewer and fewer gogo bars month after month. Unwise owners only looking for short term gains rather than a solid long term business model.I agree that Koreans have influenced it but all you're really seeing is young men with money for whom Pattaya is a short treat, not a lifestyle. The only thing that pisses me off is that girls don't want to go near white guys. I really don't mind paying 5 k or 7 k if the girl is worth it.
I agree that Koreans have influenced it but all you're really seeing is young men with money for whom Pattaya is a short treat, not a lifestyle. The only thing that pisses me off is that girls don't want to go near white guys. I really don't mind paying 5 k or 7 k if the girl is worth it.I'm beginning to think if that things are really getting that bad in Pattaya perhaps I should retire in Brazil after all.
I'm beginning to think if that things are really getting that bad in Pattaya perhaps I should retire in Brazil after all.Might be a good plan. I once considered Thailand as a retirement destination, but that's all changed with the rapidly rising prices of everything (drinks, barfines, ST, LT, etc).
Banana Boi
06-27-18, 23:30
Always get their line ID when they sit with you, its unlikely guys reading this will know who Bee or Mimi are or have more current information than you do being on the ground.Girls tend to lose their phones or customer's buy them new ones. Unfortunately, many girls aren't savvy enough to move their Line contacts to their new phones.
I guess I should have posted photos. Bee is the one with lighter colored hair. Mimi is the one with black hair.
Banana Boi
06-27-18, 23:48
I agree that Koreans have influenced it but all you're really seeing is young men with money for whom Pattaya is a short treat, not a lifestyle. The only thing that pisses me off is that girls don't want to go near white guys. I really don't mind paying 5 k or 7 k if the girl is worth it.As for gogo bars, there are Asian customer dominated bars and Farang dominated bars. It does not mean a Farang is not accepted at an Asian dominated bar but it could possibly mean a girl at an Asian bar prefers to have Japanese / Korean / Chinese customers over a Farang.
Soi 6, 7, and 8 imo are areas more Farang friendly. This includes Dolls gogo bar on 6 and Shooters on 7. G clubs, BJ bars, and ALL outdoor beer bars except maybe Lisa Coyoty (yes, that is the correct spelling) Bar near Terminal 21 are all Farang dominated.
Samples of some Asian bars are Sensations, Palace, Baccara, Happy, Beach Club, Ginza, Nui 2.
Samples of Farang bars include ALL of LK Metro except Ninja, Papagayo on Soi Diana, Tim's Bar on Second Road, Windmill, Wildcats, Sapphire, Skyfall, Taboo, Eden, Mandarin, Sugar Baby, Imagine. There are many more Farang gogo bars than Asian gogo bars.
If you go to enough gogo bars on a consistent basis it is clear that the girls in an Asian bar look different than a girl in a Farang bar. I prefer a cute Kpop look so I lean towards the Asian bars.
Banana Boi
06-28-18, 06:25
Might be a good plan. I once considered Thailand as a retirement destination, but that's all changed with the rapidly rising prices of everything (drinks, barfines, ST, LT, etc).Don't come to Thailand if you think it's cheap. Yes it's cheap compared to cities like Hong Kong, Tokyo, Singapore, Zurich, etc. But not cheap compared to other nearby monger destinations like Jakarta, AC, PP, etc. Sure you can live in Thailand for 5000 baht per month rent and 100 baht per day eating street food but I'm pretty sure that is not the lifestyle most of you are currently living in your home country.
Breadman started coming to Thailand before I did and per his post below it does not appear the barfines and payment to girls has increased all that much. Even when I first arrived 3 years ago the price for ST was 2500-3000, LT 5000. The BF structure changed to a 2 tier system but the after midnight price is the same price as the all day price 3 years ago. On Soi 6 it remains 1000 baht but the BF has increased from 300 to 350/400. Not a lot of inflation in 3 years. Yes, lady drink prices have increased from around 140-150 average to some bars charging 220 baht per lady drink now. However, customer drinks are still relatively the same. Rent has actually decreased due to a slow market.
My original plan was to move to Germany but with the law changes and the demise of German, Polish, Czech, Hungarian, Ukranian, etc. girls in the FKK clubs I decided to move to Thailand. Not that Romanians can't be beautiful but I find most of them to be mercenaries.
Its always been in the 2500 range for short time. Maybe up 500 baht. LT was normally around 4000 when I first started. Whats funny is Pattaya seems to have priced themselves over the going rate in the Bangkok gogo's in some cases. Agree that Pattaya gogo bars are generally more expensive than their BKK counterparts.
AndyNewbie
06-28-18, 06:53
Hi folks,
I was in Pattaya from 8th of June to 15th of June. As this was my very first time in Pattaya I was a bit nervous to try out something. Also to introduce myself I am a Indian and I am 26 years old. I contacted a few seniors members out here and they helped me in finding soapy massage centers. The experience in soapy massage centers was average because I always picked the most beautiful girls and they were very mechanical and also in hurry to just finish it off. Now the real story begins I met a Thai girl on walking street in a club she was very presentable and to my liking. We met spoke for a while and to my surprise she liked me being a Indian. I offered her some drinks and after that she was ready to come to my hotel room for some cash. We went to my room and had sex. She even asked me to book her for the second day I did so because I liked her. Now this particular girl she stayed with me for 6 days and 6 nights. We went for sightseeing as I came to Thailand solo. We went to go go bars and we did a lot of fun together for 6 days. She even came to drop me till the airport. Even she liked me a lot and she even asked to me have unprotected sex with her for which I denied. Now after coming back to India I am not able to forget her I am in love with her. Maybe because I am just 26 and I have less experience. She took very less money from me to be with her. She said she has to take care of 7 people in her family and she has to sleep with new men everyday. But I feel extremely bad for her. She is of my age and I really want to get out of this situation now. Just need your reviews on it if anyone has faced a similar situation and is it normal.
Don't come to Thailand if you think it's cheap. Yes it's cheap compared to cities like Hong Kong, Tokyo, Singapore, Zurich, etc. But not cheap compared to other nearby monger destinations like Jakarta, AC, PP, etc. Sure you can live in Thailand for 5000 baht per month rent and 100 baht per day eating street food but I'm pretty sure that is not the lifestyle most of you are currently living in your home country.
Breadman started coming to Thailand before I did and per his post below it does not appear the barfines and payment to girls has increased all that much. Even when I first arrived 3 years ago the price for ST was 2500-3000, LT 5000. The BF structure changed to a 2 tier system but the after midnight price is the same price as the all day price 3 years ago. On Soi 6 it remains 1000 baht but the BF has increased from 300 to 350/400. Not a lot of inflation in 3 years. Yes, lady drink prices have increased from around 140-150 average to some bars charging 220 baht per lady drink now. However, customer drinks are still relatively the same. Rent has actually decreased due to a slow market..Here's how prices have changed the past 8 years.
https://thaigirlsgonewild.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/thai-girls-price-in-pattaya.pdf
Don't come to Thailand if you think it's cheap. Yes it's cheap compared to cities like Hong Kong, Tokyo, Singapore, Zurich, etc. But not cheap compared to other nearby monger destinations like Jakarta, AC, PP, etc. Sure you can live in Thailand for 5000 baht per month rent and 100 baht per day eating street food but I'm pretty sure that is not the lifestyle most of you are currently living in your home country.
Breadman started coming to Thailand before I did and per his post below it does not appear the barfines and payment to girls has increased all that much. Even when I first arrived 3 years ago the price for ST was 2500-3000, LT 5000. The BF structure changed to a 2 tier system but the after midnight price is the same price as the all day price 3 years ago. On Soi 6 it remains 1000 baht but the BF has increased from 300 to 350/400. Not a lot of inflation in 3 years. Yes, lady drink prices have increased from around 140-150 average to some bars charging 220 baht per lady drink now. However, customer drinks are still relatively the same. Rent has actually decreased due to a slow market.
My original plan was to move to Germany but with the law changes and the demise of German, Polish, Czech, Hungarian, Ukranian, etc. girls in the FKK clubs I decided to move to Thailand. Not that Romanians can't be beautiful but I find most of them to be mercenaries.
Agree that Pattaya gogo bars are generally more expensive than their BKK counterparts.In the last three years, no; in the last decade, yes. When I moved to Thailand, in Dec '99, BFs in Pattaya were never more than 500 Baht at GoGos and 300 Baht at beerbars. Beerbar gals were 500ST and 1 k LT, Gogo gals were 1 k ST and 1. 5 K LT. Soi 6 300 BF and 700 Baht to the gal. Drinks were sub 100 Baht and LDs were never more than 120 Baht. And at that time Pattaya was cheaper than BKK for P4 P. Albeit Thermae gals were between 500 and! K and Nana Disco gals were 1 k. Street gals were 500 Baht. Truth be told these prices held for quite a long time. It was not until after the floods of '11 and the large influx of Asian punters that prices began their steep increase. Sadly, service levels for the most part have decreased along with the increase in prices. Pattaya is still ok. Good to see some dudes like Mr E who stick to their guns when it comes to prices. There is so much available in Pattaya; no need to pay mega-inflated prices.
Friend had a very interesting conversation with a Thai gal who goes overseas to work. She says the competition is getting very intense in places like the Middle East and Korea and it is no longer the fast easy money it used to be. Agents are charging more and more to arrange the trip and unless a gal is very good looking, she will not stay busy. That bodes well for us as some of these gals will have to return to Thailand and peddle their wares here again.
You have to factor in the exchange rate.
Pounds sterling 10 years ago was 60 b, 5 years ago 50 b, now around 40 b. Not sure about euros and dollars.
This has impacted on costs considerably.
Christian G
06-28-18, 20:03
You have to factor in the exchange rate.
Pounds sterling 10 years ago was 60 b, 5 years ago 50 b, now around 40 b. Not sure about euros and dollars.
This has impacted on costs considerably.Euro was around 52/53 in 2008.49/50 in January 2010. Now only 38.05 for big notes at place like Vasu Exchange.
Girls tend to lose their phones or customer's buy them new ones. Unfortunately, many girls aren't savvy enough to move their Line contacts to their new phones.
I guess I should have posted photos. Bee is the one with lighter colored hair. Mimi is the one with black hair.Buddy of mine lives in Bangkok and yes, the girls lose their phones without knowing to back up their line account to an email address and their new line account won't show all of their contacts. But they always manage to find his because he pays them, supports them when its slow season. If your not one of their friends or one of their main supporters there's little reason for them to look for your line account. And we are also talking about two girls here, not just one. Unlikely both lost their phones. So maybe you actually got blocked. I remember reading some of your posts about taking girls out to dinner and not giving them money, was this the case with these two?
Mr Enternational
06-28-18, 21:07
You have to factor in the exchange rate.
Pounds sterling 10 years ago was 60 b, 5 years ago 50 b, now around 40 b. Not sure about euros and dollars.
This has impacted on costs considerably.What! Exchange rates have NOTHING to do with the price of pussy in Thailand, a non-taxed DOMESTIC good / service. If that was true then it would also affect the price of durian, taxi rides, and rent. My rent has remained the exact same 4500 baht for the past 8 years. Why is that? The price of pussy has only gone up for people that like to get chicks from gogo bars. I am still giving freelancers 1000 baht LT, the same as I was the first day I set foot in Pattaya in 2007.
Sure you can live in Thailand for 5000 baht per month rent and 100 baht per day eating street food but I'm pretty sure that is not the lifestyle most of you are currently living in your home country.
Excellent point BB! Every time I get the urge to seek employment in Thailand I ask myself how much fun I'd truly have living off of 10000 baht per month there (assuming I am only making minimum wage). I'd probably just lock down a short term girlfriend or something, and the gogos may lose some of their luster, but then what would be the point of living there? Ha! I've been speaking with RJ and we are focused on cutting back on the gogo / excessive lady drink buying this next go round. I still may look to retire there but that is 20+ years away. In the meantime, I guess the 2-3 trips per year with monthly Tijuana trips will have to suffice! .
My original plan was to move to Germany but with the law changes and the demise of German, Polish, Czech, Hungarian, Ukranian, etc. girls in the FKK clubs I decided to move to Thailand. Not that Romanians can't be beautiful but I find most of them to be mercenaries.
I felt that same thing in visiting brothels throughout eastern Europe, especially in Spain. I love me a Spanish woman, but they prove quite difficult to find in the p4 p activities there. I've either encountered South American or Romanian ladies claiming to be of Spanish descent. The latter often being pushy and unpleasant to be around the moment anything sets them off (and it doesn't take much).
Excellent point BB! Every time I get the urge to seek employment in Thailand I ask myself how much fun I'd truly have living off of 10000 baht per month there (assuming I am only making minimum wage). I'd probably just lock down a short term girlfriend or something, and the gogos may lose some of their luster, but then what would be the point of living there? Ha! I've been speaking with RJ and we are focused on cutting back on the gogo / excessive lady drink buying this next go round. I still may look to retire there but that is 20+ years away. In the meantime, I guess the 2-3 trips per year with monthly Tijuana trips will have to suffice! .
I felt that same thing in visiting brothels throughout eastern Europe, especially in Spain. I love me a Spanish woman, but they prove quite difficult to find in the p4 p activities there. I've either encountered South American or Romanian ladies claiming to be of Spanish descent. The latter often being pushy and unpleasant to be around the moment anything sets them off (and it doesn't take much).Hey Lew.
I think a different game plan definitely if living there. Agogos would be monthly outing at the rate we were spending, and free girls the order of the day and I wonder too if Thailand would lose it's appeal? The advice I have read on here is to have a 6 to 12 month lease and try before you commit to heavily. From what I read on here there is an abundance of 20 something year olds who will live with older guys so that may be motivation enough. I think our game plan for our next adventure will test our discipline but also the other avenues for sex other then Agogos as the main source.
In theory do you think Cat or Kaew would be permanent girls if I was a resident?
I will chat with you later dude.
MutantChicken
06-28-18, 23:38
In the last three years, no; in the last decade, yes. When I moved to Thailand, in Dec '99, BFs in Pattaya were never more than 500 Baht at GoGos and 300 Baht at beerbars. Beerbar gals were 500ST and 1 k LT, Gogo gals were 1 k ST and 1. 5 K LT. Soi 6 300 BF and 700 Baht to the gal. Drinks were sub 100 Baht and LDs were never more than 120 Baht. And at that time Pattaya was cheaper than BKK for P4 P. Albeit Thermae gals were between 500 and! K and Nana Disco gals were 1 k. Street gals were 500 Baht. Truth be told these prices held for quite a long time. It was not until after the floods of '11 and the large influx of Asian punters that prices began their steep increase. Sadly, service levels for the most part have decreased along with the increase in prices. Pattaya is still ok. Good to see some dudes like Mr E who stick to their guns when it comes to prices. There is so much available in Pattaya; no need to pay mega-inflated prices.
Friend had a very interesting conversation with a Thai gal who goes overseas to work. She says the competition is getting very intense in places like the Middle East and Korea and it is no longer the fast easy money it used to be. Agents are charging more and more to arrange the trip and unless a gal is very good looking, she will not stay busy. That bodes well for us as some of these gals will have to return to Thailand and peddle their wares here again.I also confirms those were the prices I paid circa 1999.
I guess I could teach English for 30000 baht a month haha.
I guess I could teach English for 30000 baht a month haha.I wonder what the employment opportunities are in Thailand?
Mr Enternational
06-29-18, 01:38
I guess I could teach English for 30000 baht a month haha.I met a girl from Las Vegas/San Diego that has lived in East Pattaya for 5 years and teaches English. I think she told me she makes 50K/month. I know she rents a 3BR house with a pool for 10K. She said she is never going back to the States.
I met a girl from Las Vegas/San Diego that has lived in East Pattaya for 5 years and teaches English. I think she told me she makes 50K/month. I know she rents a 3BR house with a pool for 10K. She said she is never going back to the States.Just doing a quick search for "English Teacher" in the Craigslist Thailand jobs sections yields over 500 results!
Just doing a quick search for "English Teacher" in the Craigslist Thailand jobs sections yields over 500 results!Do you need to know how to speak Thai LOL.
Mr Enternational
06-30-18, 01:10
Just doing a quick search for "English Teacher" in the Craigslist Thailand jobs sections yields over 500 results!But those are all ripoffs that what YOU to pay them.
I met a girl from Las Vegas/San Diego that has lived in East Pattaya for 5 years and teaches English. I think she told me she makes 50K/month. I know she rents a 3BR house with a pool for 10K. She said she is never going back to the States.I discussed a job for a non-profit organization in Bangkok. Their offer was about 60 k baht, a two-bedroom apartment, free (limited) health care and occasional use of a car. The downside was that any hanky-panky, especially involvement with prostitutes, would find you terminated immediately.
I'm a little late on this report but I am able to find sometime to fit it in while taking the weekend off in Hong Kong (where I can't play). About a week and half ago when I was still in Pattaya, I was able to go a couple times with one of my all time favorite girls. Her name is Kwan and she is a model at What's Up. I met her when she was on 19 and first started dancing as a model. She works off and on and travels to Phuket a lot. Back when she was 19 and a bit inexperienced, she was nice to be with, but that pales comparison to her performance with me now. Her body also has developed more in these last two years. Previously, I had reported that #81 Fine had the "hottest body on Walking Street. " That was back in February of this year. Here is the report.
About 9:30, Baccara was full... Anyways after the waiter got her attention to who wanted to buy her a drink, she looked at me, and gave him a "nod" okay. Monkeypaw was flattered that he got accepted 😬. When she came down, she introduced herself as Fine, and we had this conversation of how long she worked at Baccara. She said she's been here awhile but hasn't been to work in 3 months. I said have you seen me before, she says yes. I'm like why haven't I seen you, but your face looks familiar. She said before she had shorter hair. It's a longer blonde now, but I'm sure it hair extensions. The whole time we were taking she had this evil grin on face. Even though it was before 10 pm, she was so sexy and her body was so hot, I couldn't resist any longer. Anyways, after a couple of drinks, I asked to barfine her. She said "okay!" I turned to Rocky 2300 and told him I was taking this girl back to my condo and will be back in an hour or so. If he was interested in any girl, let me know which and I can make introductions. He is sitting at the center of the bottom stage in the VIP seats and he is Indian. Even the Asians standing around were staring at them, thinking what happened here? Why are we standing or having to sit by the mirror wall. I liked that. Flipping the table every once in awhile. Spoiled Asians at Baccara envying Indians. Hilarious. Anyways, he responded that he liked #81. I was like "my girl?" he said is that her sitting next to you? I said "yes, all I can do is ask her after I'm done. " Quick ending on that one was. She said because he's my friend, she would do a 1 hour ST at the Oasis for 10,000 and chuckled.Kwan has taken the top spot in my opinion. Kwan now has the hottest body on Walking Street now. She jumps over Fine from Baccara because Kwan's is all natural and she hasn't had any surgery done to any part of her body. Her boobs have grown since I last saw her about a year ago. Kwan's tits are an all natural firm full the cup. She dances topless so it's easy to judge them. She doesn't need or want implants. I'm pretty sure all of these girls with or without boob jobs wished they had her tits. Not only are they big, perky, and firm, but there is also no sag whatsoever. Her face is also cute and the ass is the right size and firmness for me. Each time I have taken her it was a 2000 barfine, 5 drinks (my choice), and 5000 (model rates are up the models) for short time. By the way I've seen models in there, especially show models go for as high as 10,000 short time. Honestly, the reason I like to take her from the club although I have her LINE ID, is because of the entertainment she brings to me for the entire night. Also, I always like to see if I'm still her "preferred VIP customer. " To which every time I've taken her previously, I was, and it was easy to tell.
This night I grabbed her was the second time in a week. I went to What's Up without any intentions, only to hang out and listen to some music. As soon as I walked in, I saw her dancing to the left where only the models dance. She likes to play and grab her tits while dancing. She just winks at me and smiles. I smile back, but not too much because I still allow her to "play" customers even while I'm there. It's and understanding we have with one another, just like I'm allowed to grab another girl in her bar. I sat across from another customer who was eyeing her heavily. I can see that he had just gestured the waitress to offer Kwan a drink when she comes off stage. The customer was sitting in the tables to the left as you walked in with white cloth table covers and a sign that read "reserved". So I guess these guys were big spenders for their little holiday. What's Up likes make guests feel VIP like that when they want your money. Anyways, I had to go to the bathroom, so I was able to walk by the models only stage. When I did, Kwan smiled and whispered to me if I wanted her to come down. I told her if she didn't have a customer she could. She didn't know that I already saw another guy buy her a drink. So in my head, I'the figure she wasn't going to come.
While I was in the john, the customer that had bought her a drink also came in. We made some small talk and I told him that he was very lucky because she was the hottest girl in the club, maybe on Walking Street, with her body. I suggested that he probably needs to "close the deal" on her before another customer grabs her. He told me he wasn't worried because he and his friends were VIP customers who spent a lot of money on drinks here the night before. He then invited me to sit at the white cloth table, but I graciously declined. I was cool sitting on the other side near the coyote dancers stage. So when Kwan got off the stage, she of course went down to sit with him and his friends and some other girls. I saw that she she ordered a big drink. I focused my attention on the coyotes in front of me and a few offer me shots from their free bucket of liquor that they get from the club each night. Then out of the blue, I see Kwan pop up next to me. I told her I thought she had a customer already. She says she has like 3 more, but she just wanted to say "Hi. " I said back, "does that mean I'm buying you a drink?" And she says "yes, but I'll be right back".
For the next 10 minutes I watched as she bounced from table to table, taking tequila rose shots (not very alcoholic) from 3 other customers. Total that girl had in 10 minutes was like 6 drinks, not counting the big drink from the VIP guy. She then came to me and ordered another tequila rose. I looked it and said "hey, are you hustling me for a drink, because you ordered only a small drink. " She said she just wanted to sit and chat and not really drink anything. So she kept the glass full and did not take a sip. We talked for about 5 minutes about our last session, before it started turning me on and I came up with this bright idea. Remember the VIP guy in the bathroom that she was sitting with? I wanted to prove my point with him. "Close the deal" was what I suggested to him. I then asked Kwan if she wanted to go with me out. She said of course. She asked if I wanted to go now. I told her I wanted to chill a bit and she can go hustle more drinks. She that was fine because the VIP customer wanted to buy her more. I told her to get her ass back to his table and make that money.
She only laughed and went off back to his white cloth table. I then called mamasan over to add the barfine to my bill to which she did. I only had bought her 1 drink, so I asked the waiter to bring me 4 more shots, but this time Sambuca, for her to total 5 drinks. I think it's a given by now that every girl knows my reputation that "he will get you your entire 5 drink quota every time he barfines you". Why every time, even though she has other customers? It's just my MO (modus operandi) and how I operate. I believe it gets me my success with these go go bar girls I choose, so I haven't changed it. I peeked over at the VIP table and I saw him and his buddies order her and her friends like 3 more shots each. She quickly finished those 3 shots and excused herself and came back to my table. By then the waitress brought out the 4 Sambucas. She asked "is that for me?" I told her no and that she knows I don't make her drink, because she is a gym and work out fanatic. I told her that those 4 Sambuca drink tickets were hers to keep and she was happy. So 15 drink tickets in a span of 30 minutes was what she got. That's pretty much 3 nights worth drinks for her 10 day contract done in less than 30 minutes.
When she went to get changed out of her dance clothes, a couple of Chinese guys sitting next to me asked me about her. I asked if they were here for a long holiday? They replied that this was their last night and they were leaving tomorrow evening. I told them that she was only my friend and we were going out to get some food. I also told them that I have known her for a long time and she enjoys getting banged by two guys at the same time. Those Chinese eyes of theirs lit up. When she returned, I asked Kwan if she wanted to make any more drinks. She said I bought her enough already, but I told her that they were not going to be from me. I gave her the spill on the two Chinese guys sitting next to me and then watched her work her magic. She scooted over to them and they bought her 4 more tequila roses. She even got them to each drink 1, so she only had to drink 2. She said it's sweet. Told them to try it and pushed the entire shot into their mouths. When they asked to barfine her, she scooted back over to me and said that she was going with me, but "thanks for the drinks." They looked dumbfounded. On the way out, the waitress asked what about these 4 Sambuca shots? I handed her 100 baht tip and told her to give to to the guys at the VIP table. Tell them it's from complements of me.
The looks and stares from the customers, especially those sitting with the white table cloths, and some of the girls there was priceless. Kwan was probably my best choice that night. She even wore this blouse that required no bra. You can see her side boobs and cleavage easily. She looked so hot that I took decided to take her to Palace A Go Go just to tick off some of their models working there with their bad silicone boob jobs. When we got to Palace, I started calling over models and girls that I have gone with before to buy them a drink. I would get them to compare their silicone boobs to Kwan's natural ones, which she had no problem flashing. I would then make funny comments on how I think they are jealous of her tits. I think I was getting drunk by then. After about an hour at Palace, we finally headed back to my room. Her services was inline with what should be provided to a "preferred customer". She did everything I asked. And if you know how I play already, no need to mention anymore. Just read my past reports of girls.
*Of note, nothing is wrong with the look of Fine at Baccara. She's sexy, slender, fit, has lighter skin than Kwan, with a nice ass as well. Fine's boobs are man made, but also look very natural with a tear drop shape. But just the fact that they man made, puts her slightly below Kwan, who was blessed with 100% all naturals. I've included pictures of both girls. Kwan is dancing in the bikini and Fine is the girl in the purple dress. Also if anyone knows where Beer (Sapphire previously) is working or if she works at all, please let me know. She is the pretty girl in the plaid skirt waiving her hand in the third pic. I had a good experience with her awhile back, but she seemed to disappear off the map before I was able to get her contact info.
Member #4698
06-30-18, 16:39
MP, Kwan is definitely a looker and just my spec. If I saw her in the Go Go I would immediately call her over and offer her a lady drink, but I would never put up with the BS you endured and described so well in your report. I simply won't tolerate a girl I am sitting with and buying drinks for, I don't care how sexy, to leave my company, to flirt with and take drinks let alone sit with other guys as long as I am in the bar and still buying her drinks and offering to barfine her. I consider that a capital girly offence.
Now this is not to be confused with the situation where a sexy girl I know is already entertaining customers when I enter the bar unless we have made prior plans to get together that night. If we made prior plans I expect her to leave her drink customers and be with me in 5 minutes. If we haven't made prior plans then I defer to her chosen line of work and leave her to do her job. There is always another night and I would never horn in on another customer's action nor allow another customer to horn in on mine. This is LOS and there are plenty more sexy girls in the night for me to be with.
But back to Kwan's performance in the bar, accepting lady drinks from more than one customer ie entertaining more than one customer simultaneously; in all my years of punting this type of outrageously bad behavior has occurred to me less than 3 times and in all 3 times I let the girl go, politely & permanently. They always try to come back and get in my good graces again on subsequent nights when they are not so busy, but I won't tolerate it. One strike, one capital strike and you are out. Simply put, a girl that tries to pull this BS on me gets no more drinks or any other kind of consideration from me going forward and that includes future barfines. Little Kwan's behavior is simply unacceptable, but if you enjoy being treated this way for one reason or another and paying large for it, then enjoy it. LOL. Hottest girl on Walking Street? That's Bull!
Now let me tell you about my little What's Up princess, Nut. She was a looker too and the moment I saw her dancing on the stage I knew she was the one, ha ha, for the evening. Anyway the 1st night I bought her plenty of lady drinks, but she stayed with me the whole night while we were waiting for midnight and the barfine to come down in price. 5 minutes before midnight she left to change and we were out the door 7 minutes later. Back in my loom, the sex was great and Nut stayed until 3am. Then after that 1st night I always made dates to see her whenever I wanted and thus she would reserve herself for me as long as I arrived a half hour before midnight. She would accept drinks from other customers while I was not there, but as soon as I entered the bar she would extricate herself from her customers and come to me. As things progressed we also made dates to see one another in the afternoons and thus Nut eliminated the barfine. I liked this kind of treatment from her and it made me feel real good in a GFE kind of way. Of course it really didn't save me any money because afternoons trysts usually segued into late afternoon mall trips and I would invariably end up buying her perfume and other gifts.
Nut would also visit me in BKK when she came to town to see her mother and daughter. So our little relationship continued for 3 years until I eventually lost track of her. Then after a couple of years absence I quite by surprise ran into her again in Sapphire and we got back to together for the next 6 nights in a row. She told me she had been living in England engaged to some English bloke. Apparently that was over and she was back in the game only now working in Sapphire. I posted a few trip reports about her some time back both pre engagement Nut and post engagement Nut. Nut still looks hot, but she also looks a little older and more like a sexy Thai women than a girl. Her body is still near perfection though and the sex is even better than I remembered it before. Since our last meet we have kept in touch while I have been in the USA and I am looking forward to seeing her again soon when I visit Pat. What is my point for going into this now? Just to point out that there are a number of smokin' hot girls in What's up and other top Pattaya Go Go's, but I would not have accepted Kwan type behavior from Nut or any super sexy working girl. I can do much better than that. So can you.
Has that ever stopped any NGO official, employee or staff? It all depends if they get caught.
The downside was that any hanky-panky, especially involvement with prostitutes, would find you terminated immediately.
Banana Boi
06-30-18, 17:46
MP, if I'm not mistaken the girl in the green dress with the blurred face is one of the girls I know, a model at Baccara.
Also pretty sure I know Kwan. My Japanese buddy bought her 2 drinks a couple weeks ago. She was begging to be barfined.
Agree with natty. If any girl I ever buy a drink for hops to another customer over me she's cut off, maybe forever. Bee at infinity falls into this category. Some girls will ask if it's OK because it's her regular customer who barfines her and if he doesn't barfine her within 5 minutes she will be back. In that case it's OK with me.
Crocodilexp
06-30-18, 19:20
I discussed a job for a non-profit organization in Bangkok. Their offer was about 60 k baht, a two-bedroom apartment, free (limited) health care and occasional use of a car. The downside was that any hanky-panky, especially involvement with prostitutes, would find you terminated immediately.Do they post lookouts 24/7 at all of the numerous prostitution venues and ST hotels in Bangkok?
If not, that clause is simply meant to scare you off and to prevent you from bringing prostitutes back to your apartment or near the office. In practice, this is easily avoided.
MP, if I'm not mistaken the girl in the green dress with the blurred face is one of the girls I know, a model at Baccara.
Also pretty sure I know Kwan. My Japanese buddy bought her 2 drinks a couple weeks ago. She was begging to be barfined.
Agree with natty. If any girl I ever buy a drink for hops to another customer over me she's cut off, maybe forever. Bee at infinity falls into this category. Some girls will ask if it's OK because it's her regular customer who barfines her and if he doesn't barfine her within 5 minutes she will be back. In that case it's OK with me.The one with the blurred face in the green dress, I think did work at Baccara before. She has an Asian / Indian look to her right? I think she is at Skyfall now. Unfortunately, I have a lifetime ban from Skyfall (along with Hollywood and Ibar / Insomina), so I'm not 100% sure where she works now. I haven't seen her at Baccara in awhile. And plus I have no history with her at all. Some girls, like Kwan, I allow to get drinks because I already know and I am confident that they are leaving with me for the night. These girls, especially Kwan, knows how to work and I always allow them to do so. We have that type relationship of no hustling more than necessary with each other. Also I often sit with more than one girl at a time so it doesn't bother me that much. Some of the top end go go bar girls I have been with have told me they make over 250,000 baht a month, and that doesn't include money being sent by sponsors. I know a girl in Bangkok who has a total of 200,000 baht a month from 4 different overseas boyfriends. Who am I to ruin their game or tell them how to work? Sometimes, I kind of enjoy watching them hustle customers, so I can learn to pick up on the cues, just in case another girl tries that crap with me. You learn a lot by people watching in the go go bars. Same like you already know what it means when the waiter stands next to your table at What's Up and you are sitting with a girl. It's a cue and hustle telling the girl to finish her drink, so they can ask you to buy another. I find that so interesting. All I know is that some girls have always been good to me when it's my time outside the club and in the room, so I feel secure with my own actions to let them play in the club. At the same token, I don't want ANY of these girls, even my favorites at any clubs, to ever think they have control of me and that I belong to only them. Let's just call it a symbiotic relationship that I'm a playboy and they are girls that I enjoy playing with and nothing more. No extra hustling on their part. I don't hold anybody's hands, take anybody shopping, send anybody any money, nor do any extra favors for them.
There is this girl named Mean at Sensations. Mean is probably the #1 girl in Sensations. She has large silicone that also look natural when naked, a slim body, nice ass, and nice face. Maybe you recognize her from the photo below. I used to be her regular customer. She performed great in bed with me every time we went and the most I ever paid her was the standard 5000 LT. Mean thought she had grip on me with that pussy, ass, and mouth. Meaning that she wanted to control me with her body and sex. I had already been with over 35 different girls at Sensations previously and had settled in on Mean as my favorite one. She mistook that as thinking I wanted more from her and I was hers and only hers. She wanted to groom me to be the type of customer that would buy drinks for all her friends at Sensations, take them to Hollywood, and pay the bill there as well. Then eventually I would take her shopping, become like her sponsor or boyfriend. I've played this game before. And of course, I never did any of that crap. Also little did she know that I knew she had a tomboy working another bar as a waiter. Mean was a hustler but I wanted to make sure I used her all up before I ditched her. One day out of the blue, she messaged me to come pay her barfine because she was sick. I just fucked all her holes the night before and gave her 5000 baht LT for it. I told her flat out that I'm not her boyfriend and she needs to ask somebody else. Keep in mind this is the top girl at Sensations to which all guys drool over. I easily threw her ass to the curb thinking she had pussy control over Monkeypaw. Tsk tsk tsk. Of course now, she doesn't even look my way when I walk into Sensations. Honestly, she is lucky she doesn't have any hot close friends that work there. Or else I would try to bang them as well. Another girl told me that Mean had bragged to all the girls at Sensations about being able to snag me and making me commit to one girl (just her). Little did she know that I knew she was like that already and that's why I made her the very last girl I barfined from there. She had the golden pussy syndrome. If I would have barfined her as the very first girl from Sensations a couple years ago, I would have been screwed. She would be the type to spread fake and bad rumors about me because she is the #1 girl there. The #1 girl at Sensations gets to pick and dump guys at her choosing, she doesn't get dumped by customers. With God guiding me, I was patient, and played my cards perfectly. So what I did is built up a good reputation with the other 35 different girls that I barfined before her. Made her an offer she couldn't refused. Then wore her ass out before dumping her. So now she can't spread any lies such as me trying to seek BBFS, have an STD, or be beating up girls because I don't have that reputation. This is exactly how you play these girls and this game.
Agree with natty. If any girl I ever buy a drink for hops to another customer over me she's cut off, maybe forever. Bee at infinity falls into this category. Some girls will ask if it's OK because it's her regular customer who barfines her and if he doesn't barfine her within 5 minutes she will be back. In that case it's OK with me.Maybe I'm in the minority here, but I don't see anything wrong if a girl does that. She has to hustle her drinks and make a living. However, I do think its a whole different story if a barfine has already been agreed on or even paid for.
MP, Kwan is definitely a looker and just my spec. If I saw her in the Go Go I would immediately call her over and offer her a lady drink, but I would never put up with the BS you endured and described so well in your report. I simply won't tolerate a girl I am sitting with and buying drinks for, I don't care how sexy, to leave my company, to flirt with and take drinks let alone sit with other guys as long as I am in the bar and still buying her drinks and offering to barfine her. I consider that a capital girly offence.
Now this is not to be confused with the situation where a sexy girl I know is already entertaining customers when I enter the bar unless we have made prior plans to get together that night. If we made prior plans I expect her to leave her drink customers and be with me in 5 minutes. If we haven't made prior plans then I defer to her chosen line of work and leave her to do her job. There is always another night and I would never horn in on another customer's action nor allow another customer to horn in on mine. This is LOS and there are plenty more sexy girls in the night for me to be with.
But back to Kwan's performance in the bar, accepting lady drinks from more than one customer ie entertaining more than one customer simultaneously; in all my years of punting this type of outrageously bad behavior has occurred to me less than 3 times and in all 3 times I let the girl go, politely & permanently. They always try to come back and get in my good graces again on subsequent nights when they are not so busy, but I won't tolerate it. One strike, one capital strike and you are out. Simply put, a girl that tries to pull this BS on me gets no more drinks or any other kind of consideration from me going forward and that includes future barfines. Little Kwan's behavior is simply unacceptable, but if you enjoy being treated this way for one reason or another and paying large for it, then enjoy it. LOL. Hottest girl on Walking Street? That's Bull!.Thanks for sharing. Just curious Nut, does she have a large tattoo on her back and another large one of maybe a geisha on her right upper thigh? Also does she have large silicone? If so I think I know who you are talking about if she works Sapphire. Cute girl indeed.
Here's how prices have changed the past 8 years.
https://thaigirlsgonewild.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/thai-girls-price-in-pattaya.pdf2018 LT at Beerbars 2500? 1. 5 K LT is very doable if you don't have "too horny" written on the forehead.
Maybe I'm in the minority here, but I don't see anything wrong if a girl does that. She has to hustle her drinks and make a living. However, I do think its a whole different story if a barfine has already been agreed on or even paid for.A semi regular of mine is a Bangkok Bunnies Go-Go Bar girl who more often than not is sent out front as a door girl to entice customers into the bar. I barfined her once in the past but most of the time she comes over on her day off or later in the evening after she has been barfined out already. Whenever she sees me strolling through Nana Plaza she flags me over to say Hi and give me a hug. At that point I usually ask her if she wants a Lady Drink. If she has already been "promised" to another customer that evening she gives me a quick head shake and rolls her eyes in a pre arranged signal telling me not to waste my money buying her a Lady Drink tonight since it would not lead to her leaving with me directly anyway. And it is always possible the guy will want to pony up the cash for a Long Time with her.
She could easily say yes and suck up some LD commissions before telling me, "Oh I can't leave with you now honey, maybe next time" if I told her I wanted to take her. But she doesn't.
I would say that is about as honorable as a girl in this situation gets. Which is only one of the many reasons this hottie is kept as busy as she is and never seems to be hurting for income.
Member #4698
07-01-18, 14:52
Just curious Nut, does she have a large tattoo on her back and another large one of maybe a geisha on her right upper thigh? Also does she have large silicone? If so I think I know who you are talking about if she works Sapphire. Cute girl indeed.No, my Nut has small round natural Thai ta ta's and no tattoo's. I dislike silly cones immensely and almost never take a girl who has them. In a few isolated cases former favorites have had the surgery and I continued to see them albeit not as often as I once did. In a couple of other cases, not in Thailand but in Singapore and Macau, with Viet girls mostly, I have taken a surgically enhanced girl due to her facial beauty and friendly personality overlooking her chest problem. These sessions were ok, but I always wished I had known these girls before they went under the knife. I assume due to their otherwise very attractive physical attributes that they all had a really nice, small, natural set originally. Too bad I didn't find them sooner. LOL.
I prefer no tattoos on a girl a well, but so many Thai working girls have them that I don't apply that factor to my selection process anymore although if I had two Go Go girls sitting on either side of me, girlfriends, both sexy and friendly, all things being equal, I would select the one without the tattoos.
In theory I am also not a fan of dyed hair on an Asian girl and prefer their natural black hair, but once again in practice, I have had so many "blond" Thai girls that I no longer think about it. Nut has dyed her hair a light brown color. It is not natural, but it looks good on her. I could take her anywhere. She wears makeup, but only buys the expensive designer stuff and knows how to use it sparingly. She is around 5'3" (160 cm) and weighs less than 100 lbs (43 kg) with no body fat. She has no tummy trouble from her pregnancy and her pussy is nice and tight. What I really like about her in bed is how wild she gets after a little cunnilingus. She also knows how to tighten her pussy muscle around my dick from time to time. That is a great technique that only a minority of girls know about.
Again, I like your little Kwan. She is very cute and sexy. I won't go looking for her because that is not my style, but since we seem to like the same type of girls and hang out in many of the same venues, I would not be surprised if we have a couple of girls in common.
Stay thirsty,
NB.
I think we all have different taste in the girls we pick (or those that pick us). Should be mentioned that a girl might refuse to go with you if you aren't Asian or give you a completely different type of service based on the size of your package. Your height is also an issue, if your shorter then they are less intimidated by you. Time of the year that you visit also plays a factor, less customers and a broke girl works wonders on service if she see's you come in into the gogo several times and wants a repeat customer. I'm with Natty, prefer girls with natural breasts since most of the fakes in Thailand are of poor quality. But that's what you get when the breast implant can be had for a couple of hundred bucks. I'm also ready to bail on any girl who does the drink scam of running from customer to customer, I've had drinks taken off of my bill if the girl doesn't come over right away after I buy her a drink or goes to sit with another customer first. Attached is a photo of a girl who used to work at Bangkok Bunnies (some might recognize her), she's vanished from the scene for the last few years so its safe to post her pic. She's what I consider smoking hot. But there's always another dozen or so at the next bar to take her place.
Arn Poddict
07-01-18, 20:08
*Of note, nothing is wrong with the look of Fine at Baccara. She's sexy, slender, fit, has lighter skin than Kwan, with a nice ass as well. Fine's boobs are man made, but also look very natural with a tear drop shape. But just the fact that they man made, puts her slightly below Kwan, who was blessed with 100% all naturals. There are too many silicone these days in Thailand. I don't like them. No matter how natural they might look, they are fake. It is difficult to find slim Thai girls with naturally big firm tits. These Pattaya bar girls both had great tits. The girl in the picture 1 had best ones I have ever seen and played in Asia. They were fucking unreal!
I believe if you buy the drink she should stay with you while she drinks it. To me this is like an interview and it is my time to determine if I bar fine her or not. If I buy her a drink and leaves without finishing it with me I will leave the bar. If she orders a shot and drinks and leaves I know she is not interested but no more drinks for her.
Putting it's their job to hustle drinks aside, let it be a gauge to their character as well. What will the service be like if she is that focused on getting her drink tally, will she be saying have you cum yet after 5 minutes and rushing you to return to the bar? I like to use my time talking to the girl while having a drink or two to see what I will get out of the session and also if we have a bit of chemistry.
Guys don't reward bad behaviour!
Blanquiceleste
07-02-18, 01:09
No, my Nut has small round natural Thai ta ta's and no tattoo's. I dislike silly cones immensely and almost never take a girl who has them. In a few isolated cases former favorites have had the surgery and I continued to see them albeit not as often as I once did. In a couple of other cases, not in Thailand but in Singapore and Macau, with Viet girls mostly, I have taken a surgically enhanced girl due to her facial beauty and friendly personality overlooking her chest problem. These sessions were ok, but I always wished I had known these girls before they went under the knife. I assume due to their otherwise very attractive physical attributes that they all had a really nice, small, natural set originally. Too bad I didn't find them sooner. LOL.
I prefer no tattoos on a girl a well, but so many Thai working girls have them that I don't apply that factor to my selection process anymore although if I had two Go Go girls sitting on either side of me, girlfriends, both sexy and friendly, all things being equal, I would select the one without the tattoos.
In theory I am also not a fan of dyed hair on an Asian girl and prefer their natural black hair, but once again in practice, I have had so many "blond" Thai girls that I no longer think about it. Nut has dyed her hair a light brown color. It is not natural, but it looks good on her. I could take her anywhere. She wears makeup, but only buys the expensive designer stuff and knows how to use it sparingly. She is around 5'3" (160 cm) and weighs less than 100 lbs (43 kg) with no body fat. She has no tummy trouble from her pregnancy and her pussy is nice and tight. What I really like about her in bed is how wild she gets after a little cunnilingus. She also knows how to tighten her pussy muscle around my dick from time to time. That is a great technique that only a minority of girls know about.
Again, I like your little Kwan. She is very cute and sexy. I won't go looking for her because that is not my style, but since we seem to like the same type of girls and hang out in many of the same venues, I would not be surprised if we have a couple of girls in common.
Stay thirsty,
NB.Natty, I think I know who you are talking about and I am one of her early partakers. However, the session was not one of the best I have had, so Nut never made it into my Top 10 list.
Also, in terms of likes and dislikes, I think we might end up zeroing in on the same girls at a Gogo bar, although I have never been so picky about tattoos, unless it grosses me out.
Blanquiceleste
07-02-18, 01:14
Guys don't reward bad behaviour!Sage advice.
This is exactly where the problem lies. There are too many guys rewarding bad behavior. To the extent where it has become the norm. I don't have a problem paying a girl well over the "going rate" or tipping her generously, but only when I find the service truly differentiated.
MonkeyPaw would you care to share why you were banned from these places? Obviously you know how things work in Pattaya and I'm curious why that happened?
Sage advice.
This is exactly where the problem lies. There are too many guys rewarding bad behavior. To the extent where it has become the norm. I don't have a problem paying a girl well over the "going rate" or tipping her generously, but only when I find the service truly differentiated.I'm at the stage now that I'm getting very reluctant to barfine Agogo girls. We all evolve through our trips to Pattaya and where in my first trip it was majority Agogo and in my last trip a lot of group sex now I am looking at mainly freelance and beer bar girls, with maybe 3 or 4 visits to agogo bars and in 2 of those cases to repeat with particular girls. I too will reward good service with a tip, food and repeats.
Blanquiceleste
07-02-18, 13:35
I'm at the stage now that I'm getting very reluctant to barfine Agogo girls. We all evolve through our trips to Pattaya and where in my first trip it was majority Agogo and in my last trip a lot of group sex now I am looking at mainly freelance and beer bar girls, with maybe 3 or 4 visits to agogo bars and in 2 of those cases to repeat with particular girls. I too will reward good service with a tip, food and repeats.RB you took the words out of my mouth. Last year I wrote a report about availability of pussy against price points along with a commentary on their value for money (from my perspective). I find the girls from beer bars the most suitable. This is also partly because a large majority of girls in Gogos have implants and tattoos and other habits that turn me off. And a sizeable number have pretty undesirable attitudes. Last year I had gone out with BB and UV to a few Gogo bars over 2 days, but did not barfine a single chick. Yes, I was generous with drinks and I groped the girls I was buying drinks for, but did not bother to take them out. Instead, each night I found a new girl from many of the beer bars that dot the town.
There are too many silicone these days in Thailand. I don't like them. No matter how natural they might look, they are fake. It is difficult to find slim Thai girls with naturally big firm tits. These Pattaya bar girls both had great tits. The girl in the picture 1 had best ones I have ever seen and played in Asia. They were fucking unreal!Yes, these are perfect! Thanks for sharing!
Member #4698
07-02-18, 17:14
There are too many silicone these days in Thailand. I don't like them. No matter how natural they might look, they are fake. It is difficult to find slim Thai girls with naturally big firm tits. If you like relatively larger, naturally endowed ta ta's give Jakarta a look / see. On average Thai girls are smaller and less curvy than Indo girls. I like both flavors as long as the girls are pretty, have no fat and are friendly (of course). Viva la difference.
Banana Boi
07-02-18, 20:01
Maybe I'm in the minority here, but I don't see anything wrong if a girl does that. She has to hustle her drinks and make a living. However, I do think its a whole different story if a barfine has already been agreed on or even paid for.I'm guessing you have more disposable income than I do. I don't really appreciate spending 200+ baht for a lady drink to have a girl run off to another guy in a few minutes. That's either a pure shark or someone who has no interest in spending time with me. If she has no interest in me why should I buy her more drinks in the future? There are many other more deserving girls who should get my money.
The one with the blurred face in the green dress, I think did work at Baccara before. She has an Asian / Indian look to her right? I think she is at Skyfall now. .
Yes, she definitely does not look full Thai but she is.
If you like relatively larger, naturally endowed ta ta's give Jakarta a look / see. On average Thai girls are smaller and less curvy than Indo girls. I like both flavors as long as the girls are pretty, have no fat and are friendly (of course). Viva la difference.
Can't agree more. Jakarta is where to go for natural breasts. I don't like huge breasts like some guys but I definitely prefer very perky full tits that are a handful.
Aren't Thai women rated as one of the flattest in the world? I remember seeing some survey about breast size.
I'm with Natty, prefer girls with natural breasts since most of the fakes in Thailand are of poor quality. But that's what you get when the breast implant can be had for a couple of hundred bucks.I'm a hater of fake tits too but I find the fakes in Thailand are far superior than any other country I've partaken. They hang natural, they're soft and mushy and if the girl has nice pale skin they look superb. The only shortcoming is there might be a small scar on the bottoms or they feel a little lumpy but this has been minor in the dancers I've hired.
The one in the red is from SC and the nude is from Pattaya, both were very pretty. The overall experiences were subpar but their tits were nice. I find the Thai / Asian fakes to be the most natural and sexiest looking.
MonkeyPaw would you care to share why you were banned from these places? Obviously you know how things work in Pattaya and I'm curious why that happened?This all happened when I first started coming to Thailand and the scams were not easily understood by me. At Hollywood, my friends and I partied with a few girls from Sensations who took us there. They of course had friends who worked there and knew the managers as well. You have to realize that many of the "girls" work along side with the night clubs to help run up the customer's bill. They like to order bottles and when they are left unused or half empty, the girls will get to keep them when the customers return back to their country. They then will bring more customers to this nightclub with "I have a bottle left at Hollywood. We can go drink and party tonight free. " If you are a newbie, they will then hustle you for mixers, another bottle at the club, shisha, shots, and drinks for their friends and tips for everybody. Sounds familiar?
So that night, while we were drunk, our bill was inflated. We couldn't keep up with all the shots and drinks and friends. These girls seemed to know everybody at Hollywood. But it was just all go go bar girls all working on Walking Street, waiters, managers, and security that kept coming by our VIP table to take shots with us. They were trying to make us feel VIP by drinking all our liquor and getting us to buy more. So at the end of the night, our bill came to about 34,000 baht. That's high for just 6 people and 3 bottles which were each ONLY half empty. Like there was some Thai rule that says you must order different bottle of liquor even though you haven't finished the first. It was our own fault that we got drunk and couldn't keep up with the bill, drinks, and people who kept coming to our table. No problem there as I understood the game.
I would have left it alone if the hustling just stopped there. But after everybody else was kicked out at closing time. The girls and the managers asked if wanted to party some more. They couldn't let us drink the bottles we already bought but they had some left over bottles that customers threw away previously. So the 6 of us, plus our 2 waitresses, and 2 managers went into a private room with some music playing from the stereo and started drinking some more. They brought in a 3/4 bottle of Red Label that wasn't ours. They said it was free. The club was already closed and we stayed there for about another hour drinking and making out with the girls. Finally, we were ready to go back to our hotel rooms and get our fuck on. Low and behold! We get this extra bill of 16,000 baht for the room and having the staff stay over to hang out with us. I was drunk, but even when drunk, I knew we were being scammed. My friends started to complain and they then told us that they had to use this money to bribe the Thai police to let them stay open just for us because we were VIP. The girls we were with didn't even argue or help us, so something fishy was going on.
Anyways, I told my buddies I will handle this and paid the entire bill with my credit card. My friends of course would have to give me back cash the next day. We left and all went back to our rooms. In my room, I grudge fucked the living hell out of that Sensations girl for the next 2 hours. She was upset that it took me forever to cum and she tried everything pussy, tits, ass, mouth, and hands. I was still buzzing and took a crap full of kamagra. Finally she quit and asked me can she go as it was close 8 am. She said I only had to give her 4000 baht since I didn't cum. I let her go. When she walked out the door, I made a quick call to my friend JP Morgan. That's the awesome thing about having the benefits of a metal credit card. It can protect you from scams like this. Since they decided to make us pay for illegally keeping the club open after closing time, I disputed all my charges for that night at Hollywood. I told Chase I wanted an itemized list of all charges at that club for everything consumed. The bank reversed the 50,000 baht in charges by Hollywood. They were unable to prove any of the bill. Comes to find out later that the even the 3 bottles of liquor given to me, where from a stock that they use to make extra cash on the customer and not club inventory. They thought I was a weekend warrior they could easily scam. They didn't realize I not had come here to play, but her to stay and I know how to play back. The girls at Sensations told me Hollywood doesn't want to see me back there ever again. Oh well. Boo hoo.
Ibar / Insomnia, I had gone with some friends from the USA who also played professional football. These guys (5 of them) were all linemen and about 6'5" and 290 lbs and up. They just kept grabbing every girls' asses at Insomnia and intimidated even the bouncers there. Finally, one of them slugged a Russian guy in the bathroom for not tipping the bathroom attendant after he took a piece of candy from her. The management and security, then asked us nicely to leave and not come back again. So I never have. While they were kicking us out, they also took some photos with us because they were football players.
I'm a hater of fake tits too but I find the fakes in Thailand are far superior than any other country I've partaken. They hang natural, they're soft and mushy and if the girl has nice pale skin they look superb. The only shortcoming is there might be a small scar on the bottoms or they feel a little lumpy but this has been minor in the dancers I've hired.
The one in the red is from SC and the nude is from Pattaya, both were very pretty. The overall experiences were subpar but their tits were nice. I find the Thai / Asian fakes to be the most natural and sexiest looking.Those types of fakes are what I'm talking about (can only judge by the looks of the one photo). Might be all the damage from having a baby or three. Buddy of mine see's a girl who had three kids and her breast implants aren't as good as the photo you posted. I'd give the boob job in your photo a '4' rating, the boob job in the photo I've attached gets a '10'. That's Hiromi Oshima below in the photo if anyone recognizes her.
...Aren't Thai women rated as one of the flattest in the world? I remember seeing some survey about breast size.IMO, Korean women have them beat, so many flat breasted women. So are the Viet girls too, at least the few I've met.
... the boob job in the photo I've attached gets a '10'. That's Hiromi Oshima below in the photo if anyone recognizes her.I wouldn't give the one you posted ( Hiromi Oshima's) a 10. The anchoring area is too broad (no oil drop effect, no attempt at looking natural). They hang from the shoulders like towels from a washing line. Such tit jobs are the kind that tend to set off my ladyboys alarms. If 10's are to be awarded for tit jobs, then eg for Veronica Zemanova's first tit job:
I wouldn't give the one you posted ( Hiromi Oshima's) a 10. The anchoring area is too broad (no oil drop effect, no attempt at looking natural). They hang from the shoulders like towels from a washing line. Such tit jobs are the kind that tend to set off my ladyboys alarms. If 10's are to be awarded for tit jobs, then eg for Veronica Zemanova's first tit job:Again different strokes for different folks. I don't find hanging boob jobs all that attractive. Before and after website showing famous porn stars https://www.porn.com/blog/before-and-after-porn-star-boob-jobs/.
In my opinion Aletta Ocean and Rebecca Linares made a huge mistake from these two website photo's. Bobbi Eden's fakes look very well done. Teagan Presley was the only one that I thought made a vast improvement over her naturals.
Now Dillion Harper (porn star) has an amazing set of tits that look too good to be true. I actually got to feel them at a local stripclub when she toured and I have to say that they sure look fake but felt like the real thing.
Arn Poddict
07-04-18, 17:39
If you like relatively larger, naturally endowed ta ta's give Jakarta a look / see. On average Thai girls are smaller and less curvy than Indo girls. I like both flavors as long as the girls are pretty, have no fat and are friendly (of course). Viva la difference.I was last year in Jakarta and posted some pics of large natural boobs.
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?1537-Photo-Gallery&p=2068828&viewfull=1#post2068828.
But the city itself is a shithole. And most of the better looking girls are working in brothels, which means for me a soulless hasty fuck. I tried to invite some of these brother girls to my hotel, no luck. I will not go back there just for mongering unless I can combine it with a business trip.
Bangkok, Pattaya, Phuket etc are much better places for a sex vacation. The infrastructure is superior to Jakarta, food is tastier and the hookers are just as good-if not better than Indos. Still the best tits for me have been found in Thailand.
Arn Poddict
07-04-18, 17:57
I'm a hater of fake tits too but I find the fakes in Thailand are far superior than any other country I've partaken. They hang natural, they're soft and mushy and if the girl has nice pale skin they look superb. The only shortcoming is there might be a small scar on the bottoms or they feel a little lumpy but this has been minor in the dancers I've hired.This one had relatively nice looking silicone and yes, you can clearly see the scar. That does not bother me. But the unnatural feel is what sucks. And no matter how the girl walks around or moves in the bed the tits are standing still. I get bored after a minute.
I'm a hater of fake tits too but I find the fakes in Thailand are far superior than any other country I've partaken. They hang natural, they're soft and mushy and if the girl has nice pale skin they look superb. The only shortcoming is there might be a small scar on the bottoms or they feel a little lumpy but this has been minor in the dancers I've hired.
The one in the red is from SC and the nude is from Pattaya, both were very pretty. The overall experiences were subpar but their tits were nice. I find the Thai / Asian fakes to be the most natural and sexiest looking.Personally, breast don't matter to me at all. And there is nothing worse than mommy tits. I'll take a great ass and legs over tits any day of the week. Don't get me wrong, they can be a nice bonus, but chances are I'm not going to pay much attention to them anyway. Now the bits between the legs; that's a different matter altogether. I've read a few studies about breast me vs ass men and the personality profiles are indeed very different. I tend to get along with my fellow ass men far better than I do breast men.
Personally, breast don't matter to me at all. And there is nothing worse than mommy tits. I'll take a great ass and legs over tits any day of the week. Don't get me wrong, they can be a nice bonus, but chances are I'm not going to pay much attention to them anyway. Now the bits between the legs; that's a different matter altogether. I've read a few studies about breast me vs ass men and the personality profiles are indeed very different. I tend to get along with my fellow ass men far better than I do breast men.I am a full body man. I like playing with every part of the girl's body, including the tits, during foreplay. My main problem with implants is that the girl does not usually like them being frigged.
Member #4698
07-05-18, 16:46
It's always the face that attracts me first. I like pretty faces that are natural with not too much makeup. Then it's the body overall and it's proportionality. I like nice breasts, no sillies, flat tummy, no fat and nice thin legs all working together complimenting one another for a natural, slim, healthy girl feminine look. I like slender asses too, but I am not into large butts at all. I know some guys like the large ass. To each his own.
But when the clothes come off what I really love is the vagina, then shapely breasts and nipples from the very small to medium size, and lastly healthy, fresh looking skin. Ultimately there is something about the vagina, its hard to put into words what exactly turns me on or to describe how I distinguish a beautiful tempting vagina from a not so beautiful or plain one. Ha Ha. But when I see a beautiful pussy, I am in desire mode and I have to go down on it. BTW, I have never seen a a beautiful vagina on an ugly or plain girl, although I have had great fitting vaginas on plain girls, but sadly once in a while I have come across a smelly vagina on an otherwise attractive girl with pretty face and sexy body. It's too bad when that happens. It ruins everything.
It's always the face that attracts me first. ... I like nice breasts, no sillies, flat tummy, no fat and nice thin legs all working together complimenting one another for a natural, slim, healthy girl feminine look. I like slender asses too, ...Could it be that being into faces implied you were more likely to be into tits as well? In that case there would roughly be two types of guys: upper-body guys and lower-body guys. The latter, to whom myself and Goatscrot below belong, would be into legs + asses.
On the street I can't say for sure whether I'd like to bed a girl or not before she's passed me and I've turned to look back.
As a lower-body guy online dating media don't work for me at all. Online platforms put faces and tits at a premium. They don't even allow the showing of legs and asses most of the time even if girls were willing to show them.
I've met men who are not at all into asses. They tend to be men from certain parts of the world like the middle-east and Asia. Such men would consider acceptable girls with what I regard as disastrous lower bodies, girls who might as well be cripple from the waist down. I wouldn't be comfortable in the street with such a girl. In fact I'd rather she were next to me in a wheel-chair so that her tapering ass is hidden from public attention. Those men are serious about being attracted to such girls though I'd challenge them to sponsor those girls to become pole dancers or lap dancers. Do they know such girls would get laughed out of the stage? Of course the other side of the medal is that provided they have good lower bodies I would hop into bed with women whose faces could be offputting to many men, like women maybe with androgenous faces, and of course with women with virtually no tits to speak of. I guess too men who are into lower bodies are not likely to be into kissing, girl-friend sex or cuddling, but I may be wrong and only speaking for myself.
Member #4698
07-05-18, 17:08
Could it be that being into faces implies you are more likely to be into tits as well? In that case there would roughly be two types of guys: upper-body guys and lower-body guys. The latter, to whom myself and Goatscrot below belong, would be into legs + asses.
As a lower-body guy online dating media don't work for me at all. Online platforms put faces and tits at a premium. They don't even allow the showing of legs and asses most of the time even if girls were willing to show them.Yeah, upper body - that's me until we are lying together naked in bed. Then I am a pussy man through and through, although she still has to have a pretty face and breasts I want to come home to as we shag. I put a premium on pretty faces. That's why I don't visit Tulip or SW anymore.
Some guys prefer anal fucking and CIM over vaginal sex. Not me brother.
Member #4698
07-05-18, 17:51
The anal vs vaginal is a different dichotomy. Nothing to do with upper vs lower body. The anus is at the same height above sea-level as the pussy.Your analysis is getting too technical for me. Vaginas vs asses: the former I find erotic and beautiful. The latter I find utilitarian. So for sex I prefer the vagina. If just feels better to me. Simple. I am not much into rim jobs either - receiving or giving.
Fully clothed I can't evaluate a girl's vagina. I can't even be real sure of quality in a nudie bar. It's not until we are lying in bed together that I know for sure what I've got and what I am going to do with it. So for me, it is a 2 stage process. 1st stage in the bar, club, massage parlor or even out on the street I look at her face first and then her body proportionality to see if I am attracted. I presume you, on the other hand, would score more points for a girl's butt and legs than I do. Hence we would find different girls more or less attractive although, since we both like Asian girls, there would be some degree of agreement (perhaps not large) in our individual assessment of a girl's looks too. For example I see punters with different tastes and preferences in girls in the Go Go's all the time. Some guys are really, really happy with girls I wouldn't shag for free and I am pretty sure they wouldn't be too interested in my kind of girls. It comes down to whatever turns you on is what you will get in BKK.
Your analysis is getting too technical for me. Vaginas vs asses: the former I find erotic and beautiful. The latter I find utilitarian. So for sex I prefer the vagina. If just feels better to me. Simple. I am not much into rim jobs either - receiving or giving. .When a man says he is into girls asses I don't think he means he is into anal, or my perception of English is failing me here.
This is not to say there might not be a connection between being attracted to women's lower bodies and being into, say, performing rim jobs on women but the anal vs vaginal sex controversy was, it seems to me, not relevant here.
Member #4698
07-05-18, 18:19
When a man says he is into girls asses I don't think he means he is into anal, or my perception of English is failing me here. This is not to say there might not be a connection between being attracted to women's lower bodies and being into, say, rim jobs but the anal vs vaginal sex controversy was not relevant here.OK. I see your point. There might be a connection for some and there might not be for others.
Steve 9696
07-05-18, 21:28
When a man says he is into girls asses I don't think he means he is into anal, or my perception of English is failing me here.
This is not to say there might not be a connection between being attracted to women's lower bodies and being into, say, performing rim jobs on women but the anal vs vaginal sex controversy was, it seems to me, not relevant here.Agree 100%. I love a nice round but not big ass as part of the looks package, but zero desire to fuck it.
XXL you would love the format of Brazilian escort ads. They lead with an ass picture, like all the rest is secondary. LOL. They have a different aesthetic and genes down there though. Some of these girls have huge solid not fat ass and tiny waist. It looks almost alien to me.
See photoacompahantes (not sure if com or net) to see the ass menu. Quite extensive!
What! Exchange rates have NOTHING to do with the price of pussy in Thailand, a non-taxed DOMESTIC good / service. If that was true then it would also affect the price of durian, taxi rides, and rent. My rent has remained the exact same 4500 baht for the past 8 years. Why is that? The price of pussy has only gone up for people that like to get chicks from gogo bars. I am still giving freelancers 1000 baht LT, the same as I was the first day I set foot in Pattaya in 2007.If his money is invested in the UK and he has to transfer it in to Thailand then he has to pay an exchange rate on it. Thus things cost more for him.
If he is earning money while in Thailand then you are correct.
For me it is the face that attracts me first. More precisely the eyes and smile. If I can see a brightness, a sign of laughter in her eyes and then a true smile on her face when we make eye contact it is a good start for me. I will forgive a couple of kilos overweight, small boobs or some other characteristic that does not make her a 10.
We all have different expectations, standards and taste but for me attitude over looks anyday.
Give me a 6-8 who is fun and gives me a time over a 10 that is up herself and doesn't perform.
Boobs or asses? All part of the package LOL.
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