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I checked some of the gogos in Pattaya.
Palace: there were some real stunners in that club, the most impressive lineup I ever came across in Thailand. But competition was fierce (the club was packed) and some of the stunners seamed bored.
SugarBaby: Line up not as nice but the girls aren't shy and interact with the customers some of the girls got their pussy licked by customers while on stage. I barfined a girl but she was to eager to get the most out of me money wise: she wanted to see her sister in a disco down the road and when we got there she wanted me to buy lady drinks to her and her sister, then she said she was hungry. I decided to ignore her requests and to took her back to the hotel. At least, she was not shy and I did cum in her mouth twice.
Windmill: same atmosphere as in SugerBaby (nothing surprising) and I barfined for ST a young cutie. Service was adequate.
I also tried Miami on soi 13/2 at 6 PM: very few girls, two of them were good looking. But the ST rooms should be avoided, particularly if, like me, you are staying at Baraquda which is 40 m away.Miami on Soi Post Office is the same as 13/2? Anyways, did you run into the girl on the far right? She's a cute little thing and eager to please. Those rooms that they have upstairs are free for short time but remind me of Soi 6 rooms. But same like you, I stayed nearby and it didn't cost any extra for the girl I picked to come to my room. 1500 inclusive of everything for a couple of hours of hardcore fucking in your own comfortable room is worth it, especially when you have nothing else to do during the daytime. I've been to Miami 3 times and taken 3 decent slim girls. Happy hunting!
P.S. You mentioned "competition" at Palace? Be careful, some folks might get upset because "supposedly" there is no such thing as competing when it comes to barfining a Go Go bar girl. It's supposed to be easy as show up, buy a drink, and go fuck. So they say.
Member #4591
10-28-18, 06:40
I too arrived in Pattaya recently. Staying at Hilton for 140 usd a night, a little on the high end but nice rooms. I went to soi 6, and got a 25 yr old w / contacts, 350 for the room upstairs at LALA land bar and 1 k for the girl. Went through the motions but no PSE / GFE. Didn't even know that existed here.YMMV of course but I think the difference between my experience and yours was barfined my girl and took her back to my hotel after drinking and partying together for 3 hours. We had time to build a rapport.
Banana Boi
10-28-18, 09:35
I find most girls I take on soi 6 are or at least close to GFE or pse. However, I live here so I'm only taking those I get along with very well. Some girls I don't take for weeks and they're throwing themselves at me since they're so frustrated and confused why I don't go with them.
I read here often 'I took a soi 6 girl for 1000 baht' . Does that mean you didn't hang out with her for some time after buying a lady drink? You can weed out a bunch of useless girls in those first 15 to 30 minutes. That one lady drink can save you an hour of frustration. Buying a ladydrink should at least get you DFK, grinding, and mutual groping. If not, move on unless she's the hottest girl you have ever met in Thailand.
I get so frustrated with guys who don't demand mileage from these girls after buying them a lady drink at a bar or gogo.
Now that's the way to criticize a lack of trip reports.Exactly! If people would stop writing off topic posts there would not be a sudden miraculous increase of on topic posts. The only way to 'beat' the off topic posts is to write on topic posts.
I went to soi 6, and got a 25 yr old w / contacts, What contacts? Contact lenses?
Banana Boi
10-28-18, 10:11
Exactly! If people would stop writing off topic posts there would not be a sudden miraculous increase of on topic posts. The only way to 'beat' the off topic posts is to write on topic posts.I don't disagree with you but the problem is 90% of the guys who post in the pattaya thread only visit once or twice a year. Most of the ISG guys I know who live here or come every month or two don't post.
I don't live there, but I visit a few times a year, however I gave up on this thread due to the sheer amount of bullshit being posted by certain members.
Now that's the way to criticize a lack of trip reports.I do agree Soi 6 is good value, however, the only reports to be found here were along the lines of " found this stunning 19 year old 500 baht long time on beach road, threw her 600 baht at the end of the morning and she chased me home but I wasn't keen anymore she has been stalking me for days because I paid her 600 baht".
Paid 55 e for Tinder Gold and was a better deal than 25 e / month for Thai Friendly premium. What brought me to Tinder was the tip from my African regular that many African girls in Thailand are now working from Tinder (and not from Thai Friendly).
1st Tinder African today early afternoon. ST 1300. Was an 8 on Tinder but proved to be a 6. Nice personality but broad shoulders no ass. Not at all the impression from the Tinder pics. No paintbrush I think, only selection effect. Name, country and tribe per PM for those interested as I don't want to publicly disparage a girl who was not actually scamming me.
Paid her and rushed to finish the Viagra at soi 6.
When I tell people I am a Pattaya retired expat I'm not being accurate enough. A retired soi 6 expat is a more apposite description based on my sex life here.
Houston Player
10-28-18, 15:25
Paid 55 e for Tinder Gold and was a better deal than 25 e / month for Thai Friendly premium.A Thaifriendly membership is $99/ year if you live here it is a very cheap option.
A Thaifriendly membership is $99/ year if you live here it is a very cheap option.Did my VPN trip me up? Anyways, I'm glad I went for the monthly google store option as cancelling was easy. No need for two apps covering the same ground. I must say I was a bit peeved at having been "liked" on TF by such a consistent collection of menopausal MILFs. I also like the way Gold members can show interest and boost their standing on Tinder.
Mr Enternational
10-28-18, 16:29
Does that mean you didn't hang out with her for some time after buying a lady drink? You can weed out a bunch of useless girls in those first 15 to 30 minutes. That one lady drink can save you an hour of frustration. Buying a ladydrink should at least get you DFK, grinding, and mutual groping. If not, move on unless she's the hottest girl you have ever met in Thailand.But there is a saying, an empty wagon makes the most noise. I can't really remember having many bad sessions in Thailand, but one I for sure remember was almost 9 years ago when I first got my place there. When I met the chick in Lucifer she was doing all of the above that you mentioned. When I got her home she was a total dud. A few days later my brother got up on the same chick in the club. I tried to warn him but he took her anyway because of all that shit she was doing. He said she was a dud for him as well.
I did some recon today here and the waitresses absolutely cannot be bar fined. How do I know you ask? Because I asked them straight.Perhaps a new development as they were barfinable before. I saw them get bar fined on several occasions.
I did some recon today here and the waitresses absolutely cannot be bar fined. How do I know you ask? Because I asked them straight. However, the server I spoke to did say she could meet me after her shift. That is not bar fining but it is called freelancing. Furthermore, common sense would prevail when thinking about most ladies working in Patts in a normal job, they have for sure freelanced at one time or another. That's the main attraction for them to work here. They want to catch that farang sponsor or make money freelancing. Why else would they come to Patts to work a 10-12 K per month job they can get in any city in Thailand. Common sense guys! The same is line is not a magical path to pussy either.I barfined a waitress from Scooters bar on soi 6 a few years back so I'm assuming you can barfine them at all of their bars.
Going to be in Pattaya in a few weeks. Are the below prices accurate-ish for what hot gogo girls are asking for these days?
5000 long time.
3000 short time.
I'm mostly going to be interested in LT as I don't like sleeping alone. Just want to make sure I don't overpay and encourage inflating prices.
Presumably, girls will be less inclined to LT too early? Before midnight = 6000+?
Staying at Hilton.
Just got back from my latest trip to Pattaya and I think I am close to done with the town. I'm going back in a few months but I am NOT really looking forward to it. My last trip was during the Mourning Period so that doesn't count as far a judgement on the atmosphere but before that it seemed to have a spark with me perhaps because the town was still a new town from my perspective.
Meanwhile my love for Bangkok only grows larger! I went into Spanky's in Nana and it was great. Saw the hottest Thai I'd ever seen in there and she made me change my opinion that Filipinas are hotter than Thai women.
In Bangkok, you have a wide variety of humans many of whom look happy. In Pattaya you have Chinese tour hordes, insular Russian families and about 90,000 surly, fanny pack wearing Brits and Aussies in tank tops.
The girls in Pattaya seem even more hardcore than the big city girls in Bangkok too!
All just my opinion of course but am I the only guy who feels that Pattaya is a slimy racket of a sleaze town by the sea whereas Bangkok is an actual, energetic city?
All just my opinion of course but am I the only guy who feels that Pattaya is a slimy racket of a sleaze town by the sea whereas Bangkok is an actual, energetic city?No, you're not.
Banana Boi
10-29-18, 02:02
Just got back from my latest trip to Pattaya and I think I am close to done with the town.
Lou32, which bars did you go to in Pattaya that turned you off so much? Did something in particular happen?
No one is going to argue that Bangkok doesn't have more culture, better places to eat, and more things to do than Pattaya but imo most guys who come to Pattaya aren't looking for any of those. They come to Pattaya for girls girls girls. I don't even consider Pattaya a city since it's so tiny.
I absolutely agree that the low life Cheap Charlies in wife beater shirts wears on you living in Pattaya.
Are the below prices accurate-ish for what hot gogo girls are asking for these days?
5000 long time.
3000 short time.
I'm mostly going to be interested in LT as I don't like sleeping alone. Just want to make sure I don't overpay and encourage inflating prices.
Presumably, girls will be less inclined to LT too early? Before midnight = 6000+?
3000 ST and 5000 LT is pretty standard pricing but there is no rule to say you can't negotiate, especially if your girl is not a top tier gogo girl. A gogo girl does not charge more to leave the bar early. In fact, many top girls are gone within the first hour after a gogo bar opens. The extra charge is the barfine. In Pattaya barfines in gogo bars can range from 1000 to 2000 with some having a reduced rate after midnight.
These are my rules which I have mentioned on here before. Never let a girl order more than one drink during a set. A set lasts for 15 or 20 minutes depending on the bar. Never buy drinks for the a girl's 'sister' unless you want to barfine the 'sister' instead. Never buy drinks for waitresses or mamasan unless you want to barfine the waitress or mamasan, which is highly unlikely! I've only barfined one gogo waitress. IIRC I believe her barfine was even higher than a regular gogo girl because they had to find someone to replace her. A scam I'm sure but I didn't care at the time. On a related topic yes you can take the girls from I-Rovers but I suspect it's as BKKdog says, only after her shift or on a day off.
3000 ST and 5000 LT is pretty standard pricing but there is no rule to say you can't negotiate, especially if your girl is not a top tier gogo girl. A gogo girl does not charge more to leave the bar early. In fact, many top girls are gone within the first hour after a gogo bar opens. The extra charge is the barfine. In Pattaya barfines in gogo bars can range from 1000 to 2000 with some having a reduced rate after midnight.
These are my rules which I have mentioned on here before. Never let a girl order more than one drink during a set. A set lasts for 15 or 20 minutes depending on the bar. Never buy drinks for the a girl's 'sister' unless you want to barfine the 'sister' instead. Never buy drinks for waitresses or mamasan unless you want to barfine the waitress or mamasan, which is highly unlikely! I've only barfined one gogo waitress. IIRC I believe her barfine was even higher than a regular gogo girl because they had to find someone to replace her. A scam I'm sure but I didn't care at the time. On a related topic yes you can take the girls from I-Rovers but I suspect it's as BKKdog says, only after her shift or on a day off.Wdym top girls are gone within 1 hour of bar opening? Don't most gogo bars open at like 6-7 pm?
My experience before in BKK at least was that top girls much preferred doing multiple STs to get more $$$ & that if you wanted to LT barfine her earlier on in the night, she'd quote much higher than if it were later?
I mean shit, please tell me I'm wrong because if pattaya is different. I'm going to be waiting outsite the gogos before they even open and barfining the #1 girl LT every night haha.
In Bangkok, you have a wide variety of humans many of whom look happy. In Pattaya you have Chinese tour hordes, insular Russian families and about 90,000 surly, fanny pack wearing Brits and Aussies in tank tops.
The girls in Pattaya seem even more hardcore than the big city girls in Bangkok too!
All just my opinion of course but am I the only guy who feels that Pattaya is a slimy racket of a sleaze town by the sea whereas Bangkok is an actual, energetic city?Not just hardcore, but less attractive and generally pathetic in bed for someone like me who considers BBFS and/or BBBJ+CIM with young, attractive girls to be the primary objective instead of getting so shit-faced drunk on the cheap even pathetic sex with barely acceptable girls works fine. I used to hightail it right to Pattaya and only spend the first and last night in Bangkok due to proximity to the airport. But that was 20-25 years ago. Now I only go there instead of Bangkok if a friend insists on the trip.
Member #4698
10-29-18, 05:37
Anyone who knows me knows I am a BKK'er through & through, but having recently spent a 4 night weekend in Pattaya, I must say I was pretty impressed with the quality I found there. VERY IMPRESSED! Yeah, I went mostly to the agency bars, but that is only because I go where the talent is. I hate the bifurcated barfine shit, but Oh La La on the girls and they were great in bed too. My favorite Go Go's: Infinity, Sapphire, Sensations, and Tantra (thanks BB for the tip). I also liked What's Up although I did not barfine there, and Baccara (Walking Street) although Baccara (Walking Street) is not half as good as Bacarra Cowboy IMHO. Ha Ha. I don't think they are even related.
My favorite Pattaya girl was an Infinity negligee girl. She had it all: looks, fabulous body, personality, and a great sex drive, although I must say that all my Pattaya girls were repeat worthy especially my cute Sapphire girl and my 27 year old 2nd floor Baccara girl impersonating a 22 year old girl pretending to be a 17 year old school girl. In short I had a great time and should have allocated more time here, but you can't be everywhere. I plan to take another 4 or 5 days off my next BKK visit to go Pattaya in May.
One more thing: As stated above, Pattaya in early October was great (May thru October is good as well), but I would not even contemplate going in high high season (Dec - Jan). I would not want to fight the tourist crowds or have to stand in line for the prettiest, most popular girls. That is not my idea of a good time. Hotel rates in high high season are sky high as well and that should tell you all you need to know.
Stay thirsty,
NB (still in Jakarta and loving it)
Anyone who knows me knows I am a BKK'er through & through, but having recently spent a 4 night weekend in Pattaya, I must say I was pretty impressed with the quality I found there. VERY IMPRESSED! Yeah, I went mostly to the agency bars, but that is only because I go where the talent is. I hate the bifurcated barfine shit, but Oh La La on the girls and they were great in bed too. My favorite Go Go's: Infinity, Sapphire, Sensations, and Tantra (thanks BB for the tip). I also liked What's Up although I did not barfine there, and Baccara (Walking Street) although Baccara (Walking Street) is not half as good as Bacarra Cowboy IMHO. Ha Ha. I don't think they are even related.
My favorite Pattaya girl was an Infinity negligee girl. She had it all: looks, fabulous body, personality, and a great sex drive, although I must say that all my Pattaya girls were repeat worthy especially my cute Sapphire girl and my 27 year old 2nd floor Baccara girl impersonating a 22 year old girl pretending to be a 17 year old school girl. In short I had a great time and should have allocated more time here, but you can't be everywhere. I plan to take another 4 or 5 days off my next BKK visit to go Pattaya in May.
One more thing: As stated above, Pattaya in early October was great (May thru October is good as well), but I would not even contemplate going in high high season (Dec - Jan). I would not want to fight the tourist crowds or have to stand in line for the prettiest, most popular girls. That is not my idea of a good time. Hotel rates in high high season are sky high as well and that should tell you all you need to know.
Stay thirsty,
NB (still in Jakarta and loving it)Guess I'll have to give the place another in a long list of second chances to grab me. LOL. See, it's posts like yours that convince me to agree to another trip with friends who want to go there.
A friend of mine from USA is coming to Thailand for the first time in a few days and I assumed we would take a side trip to Pattaya for 2-3 days so he can check it out. Ok, I'll pony up whatever thousands of baht it takes to try one of those "agency girls" and see what happens. Hopefully I can keep from wasting most of that money and time if I have a brief and audible chat with the girl before laying out serious money to see if it is at all possible to get a clear, unambiguous and truthful "Yes" agreement to just one of my two critical requests. Otherwise, no way am I going to make one of those "go with the flow" bets with a Pattaya girl. And if not, I'm coming to this forum to blame YOU! (hehe).
Member #4698
10-29-18, 06:15
A friend of mine from USA is coming to Thailand for the first time in a few days and I assumed we would take a side trip to Pattaya for 2-3 days so he can check it out. Ok, I'll pony up whatever thousands of baht it takes to try one of those "agency girls" and see what happens. Hopefully I can keep from wasting most of that money if I can have a clear and unambiguous chat with the girl before laying out serious money to see if it is at all possible to get a truthful "Yes" agreement to just one of my two critical requests. If not, I'm coming to this forum to blame YOU! (hehe).Just bear in mind EihTooms that my requirements are not as stringent as yours are. I do enjoy BBFS, DATY, and 69, for example, with certain select girls that measure up, but I do not expect BBFS, I am just willing to engage in it when it is available from the right girls.
You know Thai girls better than me so you know that a lot of them won't offer it or consider it until they know you better. - usually after 3 or 4 sessions, some won't consider it with a punter for months, and some never. All I am saying is that holding to your requirements eliminates the number of otherwise attractive candidates quite significantly. After my trip is over I will calculate the number of BBFS girls I have had. I have had a number of them, but I estimate not even 50%.
Just as I was fearing a repeat of yesterday's dud I struck gold, the only bad news was that she'll be leaving Thailand in one week for want of a visa extension. Real Kenyan gazelle, a 9 on Tinder and a good 8 in flesh and blood. God those endless legs! And that pussy tasting like pussy, not like rotten fish dissolved in betadine. A black girl I would session even in her own country. Rather uninteractive in bed, no GF bullshit or fake orgasm but what a sight! I needed my eyes to get tintillated, not my ego.
I'll try to pack her into my schedule over the next few days. Meet her in Bali in January if she's still there. Well, provided she has not got too spoiled by Bali prices by then.
Just bear in mind EihTooms that my requirements are not as stringent as yours are. I do enjoy BBFS, DATY, and 69, for example, with certain select girls that measure up, but I do not expect BBFS, I am just willing to engage in it when it is available from the right girls.
You know Thai girls better than me so you know that a lot of them won't offer it or consider it until they know you better. - usually after 3 or 4 sessions, some won't consider it with a punter for months, and some never. All I am saying is that holding to your requirements eliminates the number of otherwise attractive candidates quite significantly. After my trip is over I will calculate the number of BBFS girls I have had. I have had a number of them, but I estimate not even 50%.Understood. But I am still in for a genuine and complete BBBJ+CIM, my other option. The problem with me and Pattaya is my either/or flexibility on this does not eliminate the number of attractive candidates in Bangkok (even last night and this very day too) nearly as severely as it has in Pattaya over the past several years. Which is why I have written off Pattaya as a worthwhile P4P destination of late. For me.
Banana Boi
10-29-18, 12:21
Not just hardcore, but less attractive and generally pathetic in bed for someone like me who considers BBFS and/or BBBJ+CIM with young, attractive girls I'm happy to read that girls aren't doing BBFS with everyone. I have actually cut off some girls because they offered BBFS. With familiarity, girls including the supposed low mileage gogo girls do BBFS. More common is BBFS on Soi 6 or a G club if you are a repeat customer. BBBJ + CIM is very common on Soi 6 and almost a given in a G Club. Swallowing not so much. Most run to spit. Only time I ever see a Thai girl move quickly.
Wdym top girls are gone within 1 hour of bar opening? Don't most gogo bars open at like 6-7 pm?
My experience before in BKK at least was that top girls much preferred doing multiple STs to get more $$$ & that if you wanted to LT barfine her earlier on in the night, she'd quote much higher than if it were later?
I mean shit, please tell me I'm wrong because if pattaya is different. I'm going to be waiting outsite the gogos before they even open and barfining the #1 girl LT every night haha.Most gogo bars in Pattaya open at 8 pm with a few exceptions like Windmill, Baccara, etc. Some actually aren't opening until 8:30 now. Guess they figure business is slow at 8 pm which it is. You have to act quickly in a gogo bar. Japanese and Korean men are impatient. They barfine a girl within a minute after even seeing the one they like on stage.
Walking Street is full of fairly wealthy Japanese and Korean and more recently Chinese. These guys don't do ST. The 2000 baht is irrelevant to them. They all take girls LT and take them to a disco or other gogo bars before going back to their hotel. It's not that common to see girls return to the bar after a ST. They usually take the opportunity to go out with their friends or guys they like to hang out with. IMHO competition is much stiffer in Pattaya gogo bars than Bangkok for popular girls and you can read here how some guys can't compete, usually by saying how they don't like Pattaya. I've met some older guys who have given up on Pattaya since they can't pull in the girls they want no matter how much money they have.
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IMHO competition is much stiffer in Pattaya gogo bars than Bangkok for popular girls and you can read here how some guys can't compete, usually by saying how they don't like Pattaya. I've met some older guys who have given up on Pattaya since they can't pull in the girls they want no matter how much money they have.That is one way if looking at it. And I might agree with you if the percentage of good looking girls to mediocre looking girls in the scene in Pattaya came close to that in Bangkok. But it doesn't.
In my case and observation, the key words are "attractive girls" in Pattaya that I would want to have real sex with, as in BBFS or BBBJ+CIM.
So my way of looking at it is the girls who cannot compete and have given up trying to get good customers in Bangkok go to Pattaya where the customer base is far less discerning and particular about the looks and skills of the P4P girls.
Not sure I have seen more than 2 girls in the whole city, including non pros working in the malls, that I'd leave my room 10 minutes earlier for in hopes that this will be my lucky day to catch her before the mad rush and be graced with her company for an hour, regardless of the money.
Member #4591
10-29-18, 18:15
I barfined a waitress from Scooters bar on soi 6 a few years back so I'm assuming you can barfine them at all of their bars.That would be great if my post was about scooters but it wasn't. It was about the I-Rovers sports bar in LK Metro. Why did you think I was talking about Scooters?
Member #4591
10-29-18, 18:17
Perhaps a new development as they were barfinable before. I saw them get bar fined on several occasions.Really? Who would serve the food and drinks if they could be bar fined?
Really? Who would serve the food and drinks if they could be bar fined?Last time I was in BKK my brother bar fined a server. This restaurant was in Soi 4 NEP opposite side of the road and Country Road was the name. We had dinner there and he jokingly asked how much to barfine and she gave him a price and I remember she said he was her first customer since working there for 1 week. We both went to Nana but he went back and took her.
Whether it was a barfine or after shift I don't know because I wasn't with him but I do recall her confirming barfines before we left.
Member #4591
10-30-18, 01:04
Last time I was in BKK my brother bar fined a server. This restaurant was in Soi 4 NEP opposite side of the road and Country Road was the name. We had dinner there and he jokingly asked how much to barfine and she gave him a price and I remember she said he was her first customer since working there for 1 week. We both went to Nana but he went back and took her.
Whether it was a barfine or after shift I don't know because I wasn't with him but I do recall her confirming barfines before we left.Country Road was a bar in Soi Cowboy not a restaurant.
Country Road was a bar in Soi Cowboy not a restaurant.There was in February a restaurant / bar called Country Road on Soi 4. It was near the Ibis. The establishment I'm referring to is called the Bus Stop. It is on the opposite side of Soi 4 from NEP.
LittleBigMan
10-30-18, 02:34
That would be great if my post was about scooters but it wasn't. It was about the I-Rovers sports bar in LK Metro. Why did you think I was talking about Scooters?At times although we should keep things simple it is just too simple to some?
As you noted I-Rover just because it has the word Bar it doesn't mean it is a place you can barfine the girls. ! There are a number of places just outside of I-Rover, that serve food and have girls you can BF, they are pretty obvious because there are servers and girls sitting on stools doing nothing but being eye candy. Jibby's, Scooters, Billibong there are about a half dozen of them if not more.
As for I-Rover, the girls are mainly servers of food and I-rovers from what I understand there are girls that will go with you but no during work hours and certainly they aren't going to drop their plate of fries for a customer and go upstairs with you for ST or LT, I know this from regulars I know but never ask or care because I never have seen anything I like, plus I have a rule business is business and pleasure is pleasure that means for me what I eat I don't want anyone messing with it?
A place like I-Rover food watching sports girls talk and certainly they aren't going to go with a customer who stays at the place which is what the original question was about. As you noted you ask and if they do it is going to be off hours and at your place not upstairs at I-rover. It isn't a really Bar as the others!
Jimmy Boy 99
10-30-18, 03:24
There was in February a restaurant / bar called Country Road on Soi 4. It was near the Ibis. The establishment I'm referring to is called the Bus Stop. It is on the opposite side of Soi 4 from NEP.Country Road was still there October 2018.
Most gogo bars in Pattaya open at 8 pm with a few exceptions like Windmill, Baccara, etc. Some actually aren't opening until 8:30 now. Guess they figure business is slow at 8 pm which it is. You have to act quickly in a gogo bar. Japanese and Korean men are impatient. They barfine a girl within a minute after even seeing the one they like on stage.
Walking Street is full of fairly wealthy Japanese and Korean and more recently Chinese. These guys don't do ST. The 2000 baht is irrelevant to them. They all take girls LT and take them to a disco or other gogo bars before going back to their hotel. It's not that common to see girls return to the bar after a ST. They usually take the opportunity to go out with their friends or guys they like to hang out with. IMHO competition is much stiffer in Pattaya gogo bars than Bangkok for popular girls and you can read here how some guys can't compete, usually by saying how they don't like Pattaya. I've met some older guys who have given up on Pattaya since they can't pull in the girls they want no matter how much money they have.Oh so its quite different than Bangkok where I see top girls cycling through ST customers all night.
So if you say competition is much stiffer. The girls are looking for what?
Young? Fun? Charming? Handsome? Boyfriend?
I'm 4 out of the 5, you can guess which I'm not tryna be LOL.
IMHO competition is much stiffer in Pattaya gogo bars than Bangkok for popular girls and you can read here how some guys can't compete, usually by saying how they don't like Pattaya. I've met some older guys who have given up on Pattaya since they can't pull in the girls they want no matter how much money they have.I agree that would be very frustrating if can't get the pretty girls no matter what, for us old guys.
I have been highly frustrated myself on occasion in Bangkok. Two girls kept refusing me in Long Gun years ago. Both stunners, but different bodies. One girl Noi eventualy went with me and then was terrible on the bed, so I could see why she refused me. LOL She might respond to younger spunky guys. At one time I really had the hots for her, a tall model type with really good tits.
Another super hot girl dancing right in front of me, in Baccara, would not even look at me or answer when I asked if she was available. She soon made a beeline for a young handsome Farang, she clearly knew already. These things are just a little frustrating. We all probably like to think of ourselves as one of the better potential customers, treating girls well.
So why go to Pattaya if is going to be so frustrating getting to the top girls? Already found Thermae quite frustrating. The girls I could get, and liked well enough, were never any good on the bed these days. So don't see any point to keep going to Thermae. Right? It's delusional if I keep believing my luck will change. Maybe luck could change once, then go bad again.
Clearly it is realistic to find girls that prefer old Farangs, and still in great shape themselves.
I agree that would be very frustrating if can't get the pretty girls no matter what, for us old guys.
I have been highly frustrated myself on occasion in Bangkok. Two girls kept refusing me in Long Gun years ago. Both stunners, but different bodies. One girl Noi eventualy went with me and then was terrible on the bed, so I could see why she refused me. LOL She might respond to younger spunky guys. At one time I really had the hots for her, a tall model type with really good tits.
Another super hot girl dancing right in front of me, in Baccara, would not even look at me or answer when I asked if she was available. She soon made a beeline for a young handsome Farang, she clearly knew already. These things are just a little frustrating. We all probably like to think of ourselves as one of the better potential customers, treating girls well.
So why go to Pattaya if is going to be so frustrating getting to the top girls? Already found Thermae quite frustrating. The girls I could get, and liked well enough, were never any good on the bed these days. So don't see any point to keep going to Thermae. Right? It's delusional if I keep believing my luck will change. Maybe luck could change once, then go bad again.
Clearly it is realistic to find girls that prefer old Farangs, and still in great shape themselves.Syzy, have you gone to Pattaya recently and surveyed the potential talent there? I would be interested to know where and how often your standards of beauty apply in that location these days. By my observation, seeing a truly well put together girl in terms of basic body and facial features is a very heavy lift in Pattaya. Virtually anywhere in town. There are some, very rare though, in terms of natural DNA, youth, fitness, whatever. But almost without exception they spoil it with big ugly tattoos in the worst possible places, weird piercings, braying nasally voices, heavy cigarette smoking, gobs of garish make-up and general turn off demeanor. For me, that is.
Syzy, have you gone to Pattaya recently and surveyed the potential talent there? I would be interested to know where and how often your standards of beauty apply in that location these days. By my observation, seeing a truly well put together girl in terms of basic body and facial features is a very heavy lift in Pattaya. Virtually anywhere in town. There are some, very rare though, in terms of natural DNA, youth, fitness, whatever. But almost without exception they spoil it with big ugly tattoos in the worst possible places, weird piercings, braying nasally voices, heavy cigarette smoking, gobs of garish make-up and general turn off demeanor. For me, that is.I'd agree with you. Most are very rough, bordering on feral at times. I just don't like the vibe from most of them. Pattaya used to be charmingly sleazy; now it's just gross. And that harsh Isaan growl and personality. I can do without that. Of course there are exceptions, but more often than naught when I am down there I end up empty handed. Friend was there over the weekend and didn't partake once. He lived in Hong Kong for a long time and still sends me pics of 141 gals that you can have for the equivalent of 1600 Baht. And they just put the Thai gals to shame.
I agree that would be very frustrating if can't get the pretty girls no matter what, for us old guys.
I have been highly frustrated myself on occasion in Bangkok. Two girls kept refusing me in Long Gun years ago. Both stunners, but different bodies. One girl Noi eventualy went with me and then was terrible on the bed, so I could see why she refused me. LOL She might respond to younger spunky guys. At one time I really had the hots for her, a tall model type with really good tits.
Another super hot girl dancing right in front of me, in Baccara, would not even look at me or answer when I asked if she was available. She soon made a beeline for a young handsome Farang, she clearly knew already. These things are just a little frustrating. We all probably like to think of ourselves as one of the better potential customers, treating girls well.
So why go to Pattaya if is going to be so frustrating getting to the top girls? Already found Thermae quite frustrating. The girls I could get, and liked well enough, were never any good on the bed these days. So don't see any point to keep going to Thermae. Right? It's delusional if I keep believing my luck will change. Maybe luck could change once, then go bad again.
Clearly it is realistic to find girls that prefer old Farangs, and still in great shape themselves.One of the reasons for choosing BKK as a place to live in '99 was seeing all the old dudes with the hottest gals. Back in the day the 50's and 60's guys always seems to have the sexiest gals. Not anymore. Now the scene in BKK is dominated by Asian dudes, many of them quite young. They are less demanding, will take what they get, and not make a fuss. It's their scene now. The farang is not going to make a comeback.
One of the reasons for choosing BKK as a place to live in '99 was seeing all the old dudes with the hottest gals. Back in the day the 50's and 60's guys always seems to have the sexiest gals. Not anymore. Now the scene in BKK is dominated by Asian dudes, many of them quite young. They are less demanding, will take what they get, and not make a fuss. It's their scene now. The farang is not going to make a comeback.Another way to look at it is to say that the mongering scene has degenerated into kind of a dating scene.
The SJWs who keep agitating against "dirty old men" abusing pretty young things in Thailand have no clue how far off from the truth they are.
Thanks for the advice. But look at it this way, when you are hungry, you can get full eating at home, at a Thai street food stall on Beach Road, McDonald's near Beach Road 13/1 or the Hooters Pattaya, next to it. Hopefully you understand that analogy. It's what separates those with higher rationale from others. Unfortunately, we are not all blessed by God with the same abilities and powers to get what we want out of life.
Reasons I pay more.
1. To get the exact experience that I want.
2. To get the exact girls I want.
3. To get it at the exact time I want.
4. To get it done at the exact place I want.
5. And money to me ain't shit..Monkey paw,
You are awesome man. I have read your posts and can understand that you are enjoying the life by fucking beautiful girls and living luxurious life without caring about money that you spend. I am very curious and eager to know the basic idea of your method of earnings. Hope you would not mind. Would you please let me know, how have you been able to spend so much money on these girls? Are you a business tycoon? Please ignore if you don't want to answer. But if you don't mind then please let me know either in open forum or through PM. Waiting for your reply.
Charlie28.
Another way to look at it is to say that the mongering scene has degenerated into kind of a dating scene.
The SJWs who keep agitating against "dirty old men" abusing pretty young things in Thailand have no clue how far off from the truth they are.I'd actually say it is the opposite. Back in the day the gals wanted long term relationships; now most don't. They are making too much doing loads of Asian guys and milking sponsors from overseas. Used to they had to do their best to catch a dude with the where with all to take care of them. We used to say, "Guys don't come to Thailand to F% P4 P gals, they come to date P4 P gals. " But yes, the old dudes did take care of them pretty well. I know many that live here with gals they have been with for 20 years.
One of the reasons for choosing BKK as a place to live in '99 was seeing all the old dudes with the hottest gals. Back in the day the 50's and 60's guys always seems to have the sexiest gals. Not anymore. Now the scene in BKK is dominated by Asian dudes, many of them quite young. They are less demanding, will take what they get, and not make a fuss. It's their scene now. The farang is not going to make a comeback.I can't shake the suspicion that in the pre-Viagra days, those old dudes with a hot babe on each arm rarely had much sexual use of them. And the hot girl on each arm had carved out quite a deal for herself; get escorted around and supported in every way, had her family supported, and that old dude would be drunk and asleep before 11pm. At which point the girls could contact their young Thai boyfriends and set up quick little trysts somewhere at some time. And everyone who saw them strolling around with old Jasper knew it. Nice catch, honey.
But not today. Today, if such a girl is seen being carted around by an old dude, best guess by anyone observing them is that girl is dreading the evening ahead because it will be another night of very hard earned money. LOL. That would very much alter the quality of girl willing to take on such job for the next critical 10-20 years of her life. Again, just guessing. So I am not surprised that in THESE days, it is much harder to get a real hottie to commit herself to spending night after night for the next decade or more with some old dude 3 1/2 times her age and a boner at the ready almost every damn night.
The smartphone and pervasive online social networks changed the scene dramatically. And, imo, so did the invention and further development of those boner pills.
I can't shake the suspicion that in the pre-Viagra days, those old dudes with a hot babe on each arm rarely had much sexual use of them. And the hot girl on each arm had carved out quite a deal for herself; get escorted around and supported in every way, had her family supported, and that old dude would be drunk and asleep before 11pm. At which point the girls could contact their young Thai boyfriends and set up quick little trysts somewhere at some time. And everyone who saw them strolling around with old Jasper knew it. Nice catch, honey.
But not today. Today, if such a girl is seen being carted around by an old dude, best guess by anyone observing them is that girl is dreading the evening ahead because it will be another night of very hard money earned. LOL. That would very much alter the quality of girl willing to take on such job for the next critical 10-20 years of her life. Again, just guessing. So I am not surprised that in THESE days, it is much harder to get a real hottie to commit herself to spending night after night for the next decade or more with some old dude 3 1/2 times her age and a boner at the ready almost every damn night.
The smartphone and pervasive online social networks changed the scene dramatically. And, imo, so did the invention and further development of those boner pills.Also thailand in general is just more developed than it was even 10 years ago. Got to go somewhere way way poor if you want that type of treatment still.
Member #4591
10-30-18, 16:04
There was in February a restaurant / bar called Country Road on Soi 4. It was near the Ibis. The establishment I'm referring to is called the Bus Stop. It is on the opposite side of Soi 4 from NEP.I'm sorry but you have completely lost me mate. Please read both your posts and you will understand why I'm confused.
Member #4591
10-30-18, 16:39
On my second night, I checked out Papagayo Go Go. It's is located on Soi Diana and Soi Lengkee. Great little Gogo. I met a 22 year old spinner with a killer ass. Darker skin than I'm used to but a cute face and braces. Had a great time playing around with the girls and drinking and she was truly a diamond in the ruff. Lady drinks 160, bar fine 1000, and 3000 LT. She stayed until 2 PM the next day. Sex the night before was an incredible PSE and GFE the next morning. Her name is Bell. She is 1 of only 3 girls that were above average in the bar and like I said a true diamond in the ruff. The attached photos show the girl and the bar name in the background of one of the photos.
Member #4591
10-30-18, 17:10
Has anybody ever wondered about those little massage shops? I have and I've never ever seen a report on them in the forum. So maybe this is the first one. On Soi Bukow (spelt wrong) beside the Subway, there was a cute girl out front. After checking out of my hotel, I decided to get a massage. 300 Baht for one hour. As I lay naked on the bed, the girl proceeds with a decent oil massage. After about 20 minutes, I was asked about special. I asked about boom boom. She said total 1,500. Next was a decent blow job and a 30 minute pounding. Paid the other 1200, showered and left. Overall worth the 1500 but next time, I will proposition one for an out call at my hotel. Photos from Google steeett view. Not worth the 500 for HJ or 1000 for BJ.
I can't shake the suspicion that in the pre-Viagra days, those old dudes with a hot babe on each arm rarely had much sexual use of them. And the hot girl on each arm had carved out quite a deal for herself; get escorted around and supported in every way, had her family supported, and that old dude would be drunk and asleep before 11pm. At which point the girls could contact their young Thai boyfriends and set up quick little trysts somewhere at some time. And everyone who saw them strolling around with old Jasper knew it. Nice catch, honey.
But not today. Today, if such a girl is seen being carted around by an old dude, best guess by anyone observing them is that girl is dreading the evening ahead because it will be another night of very hard earned money. LOL. That would very much alter the quality of girl willing to take on such job for the next critical 10-20 years of her life. Again, just guessing. So I am not surprised that in THESE days, it is much harder to get a real hottie to commit herself to spending night after night for the next decade or more with some old dude 3 1/2 times her age and a boner at the ready almost every damn night.
The smartphone and pervasive online social networks changed the scene dramatically. And, imo, so did the invention and further development of those boner pills.Viagra was plentiful in the late 90's and early 00's. My sneaking suspicion is that the older guys at that time were the main ones with money, most being on fat expat packages.
Mr Enternational
10-30-18, 18:35
Has anybody ever wondered about those little massage shops? I have and I've never ever seen a report on them in the forum. So maybe this is the first one. On Soi Bukow (spelt wrong) beside the Subway, there was a cute girl out front. After checking out of my hotel, I decided to get a massage. 300 Baht for one hour. As I lay naked on the bed, the girl proceeds with a decent oil massage. After about 20 minutes, I was asked about special. I asked about boom boom. She said total 1,500. Next was a decent blow job and a 30 minute pounding. Paid the other 1200, showered and left. Overall worth the 1500 but next time, I will proposition one for an out call at my hotel. Photos from Google steeett view. Not worth the 500 for HJ or 1000 for BJ.I have talked about massage places several times when someone has asked. Outcall is 500 for the massage and I give them another 500 for FS. Total 1000. The times that I have done it in-house I still give 500 plus the cost of the massage. After that, I will have the girl's contact info and give them 1000 for staying overnight when they get off work. In a lot of places the girls sleep at the shops anyway.
Pheasantplucker
10-30-18, 20:09
Many thanks!
Walked in to M Club the other day. Only spotted one girl. Anyone else been lately? Anyone know where cute face Nana is now?
Why I listed I-Rovers first.
There's an App available named Sure that allows you to control the TV channels. I've never used it myself but my buddy does. Pretty sure those clueless waitresses at Retox won't even notice you changed the channel. Just make sure it's ok with the guys at the tables around you it's ok to change.
It's fine for all the above. Like all other LK hotels the girl dumps her ID card at reception. Rooms are clean and decent. Looks to be one of the newest LK hotels. Only issue is it's not on a baht bus route but if you don't mind walking from 3rd Road to Soi Buakhao to catch a baht bus then it's ok. It is convenient to Soi Bumpy, Soi Full Love Inn, and LK Metro. LK Empress, LK Residence, and LK Metropole are better location wise but LK President is usually cheaper than the others.
Mr Enternational
10-30-18, 20:46
There's an App available named Sure that allows you to control the TV channels. I've never used it myself but my buddy does. Pretty sure those clueless waitresses at Retox won't even notice you changed the channel. Just make sure it's ok with the guys at the tables around you it's ok to change.I used to use that app a few years ago when I had a Samsung S5. I could control everything in my room with it. TV, AC, etc. Since I moved to an S7 and more recently a Note 9, the app is only good if you have a wifi network in place. It is something to do with infra-red. I am thinking the older phones had some kind of infra-red deal, while the newer ones don't and therefore must be done over the network.
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Crocodilexp
10-31-18, 04:57
One of the reasons for choosing BKK as a place to live in '99 was seeing all the old dudes with the hottest gals. Back in the day the 50's and 60's guys always seems to have the sexiest gals. Not anymore. Now the scene in BKK is dominated by Asian dudes, many of them quite young. They are less demanding, will take what they get, and not make a fuss. It's their scene now. The farang is not going to make a comeback.That was glorious, I loved seeing those couples with a decrepit old Farang with a legitimately hot Thai girl on his arm (secretly giving me a wink). I was in my late 20's back then, really looking forward to my 50's and 60's. Sadly, seems like it won't be happening, either in Thailand or elsewhere.
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That was glorious, I loved seeing those couples with a decrepit old Farang with a legitimately hot Thai girl on his arm (secretly giving me a wink). I was in my late 20's back then, really looking forward to my 50's and 60's. Sadly, seems like it won't be happening, either in Thailand or elsewhere.Yep, that was one of the main reasons for choosing Thailand. Feel like I have been cheated in a way. And you are correct, won't be happening anywhere. Glad I came when I did and was able to catch the end of the Golden Age.
Can anyone recommend a bar / club / gogo where you can walk in and enjoy FS right there at the bar?
Any of the soi 6 bars you can go upstairs for full service.
Can anyone recommend a bar / club / gogo where you can walk in and enjoy FS right there at the bar?
Can anyone recommend a bar / club / gogo where you can walk in and enjoy FS right there at the bar?At Telephone bar, you can FS in the open. At Bar LE Post aka La Trafalgar, your babe of choice will move you to a dark corner in the main room. I've gotten a BJ there, but I'm not sure of FS. Since you're new here, with 3 post, you probably don't know where theses places are located: Google is your friend. At Gentlemens Clubs you'll do the deed behind curtains or private room. Soi 6 bars have upstairs rooms.
At Telephone bar, you can FS in the open. At Bar LE Post aka La Trafalgar, your babe of choice will move you to a dark corner in the main room. I've gotten a BJ there, but I'm not sure of FS. Since you're new here, with 3 post, you probably don't know where theses places are located: Google is your friend. At Gentlemens Clubs you'll do the deed behind curtains or private room. Soi 6 bars have upstairs rooms.Thanks Java Man, I really appreciate the information.
Banana Boi
11-01-18, 14:38
Has anybody ever wondered about those little massage shops? I have and I've never ever seen a report on them in the forum. So maybe this is the first one. On Soi Bukow (spelt wrong) beside the Subway, there was a cute girl out front. After checking out of my hotel, I decided to get a massage. 300 Baht for one hour. As I lay naked on the bed, the girl proceeds with a decent oil massage. After about 20 minutes, I was asked about special. I asked about boom boom. She said total 1,500. Next was a decent blow job and a 30 minute pounding. Paid the other 1200, showered and left. Overall worth the 1500 but next time, I will proposition one for an out call at my hotel. Photos from Google steeett view. Not worth the 500 for HJ or 1000 for BJ.I've mentioned these places many times just not by name. On Soi Buakhao across the street from AG Massage on the other side of Soi Lengkee you will see girls in pink t-shirts at Warren Massage and girls in white t-shirts at Oma Massage. Both these places can also have pretty young cute girls at times. These girls can be talked down to 1000 baht for FS if you care to be bothered with the negotiation process. Girl will likely go with you to your room for 1500 before her shift. If during her shift you will still have to pay the 300 shop fee for an oily.
On my second night, I checked out Papagayo Go Go. It's is located on Soi Diana and Soi Lengkee. Great little Gogo. I met a 22 year old spinner with a killer ass. Darker skin than I'm used to but a cute face and braces. Had a great time playing around with the girls and drinking and she was truly a diamond in the ruff. Lady drinks 160, bar fine 1000, and 3000 LT. She stayed until 2 PM the next day. Sex the night before was an incredible PSE and GFE the next morning. Her name is Bell. She is 1 of only 3 girls that were above average in the bar and like I said a true diamond in the ruff. The attached photos show the girl and the bar name in the background of one of the photos.I used to go to Papagayo with some other ISG members who liked the bar but the girls there can not be trained on my 3 or 4 drink per hour maximum so I just gave up. Too many tourist Farang on Soi Diana have ruined Papagayo. No one really hot enough anyways to be of concern for me. Glad you were able to find someone to your liking.
Has anybody ever wondered about those little massage shops? I have and I've never ever seen a report on them in the forum.Off Soi Buakhao is Soi Chalermphrakiat 25 with a lot of massage joints that have been commented on before.
Mr Enternational
11-01-18, 23:07
Off Soi Buakhao is Soi Chalermphrakiat 25 with a lot of massage joints that have been commented on before.That is something different. Those are fuck shops. The chicks on that soi would not know how to give a massage if you paid them.
Spotted a girl I liked and who seemed glad to have me. Asked her how much for the room, she said 350. But when I handed out a 500 at the counter I was told "room 500 if not buy lady drink". I demanded my 500 back and walked out.
Picked a girl from the shop next door (room 400).
Banana Boi
11-02-18, 10:44
Live on soi 6. This is busiest I've seen it for a very long time. Almost every bar has girls along the front row waiting for guys.
Christian G
11-02-18, 13:08
Spotted a girl I liked and who seemed glad to have me. Asked her how much for the room, she said 350. But when I handed out a 500 at the counter I was told "room 500 if not buy lady drink". I demanded my 500 back and walked out.Do you remember the name of the bar? Maybe it's the Miss be-Heaven Bar?
Do you remember the name of the bar? Maybe it's the Miss be-Heaven Bar?Don't remember. It was quite far down towards Beach Road.
Live on soi 6. This is busiest I've seen it for a very long time. Almost every bar has girls along the front row waiting for guys.What does this mean? Is it hard to get girls?
Banana Boi
11-02-18, 15:22
What does this mean? Is it hard to get girls?It means girls girls girls everywhere. Most bars had one or no customers and girls all sitting around.
Gin And Tonic
11-02-18, 22:11
Off Soi Buakhao is Soi Chalermphrakiat 25 with a lot of massage joints that have been commented on before.Better known as Soi Chiayaphoon or The Poon.
Spotted a girl I liked and who seemed glad to have me. Asked her how much for the room, she said 350. But when I handed out a 500 at the counter I was told "room 500 if not buy lady drink". I demanded my 500 back and walked out.
Picked a girl from the shop next door (room 400).Well, okay, on principal, I get it, you win. But dang, in terms of money, you saved $3 and passed up "... a girl I liked and who seemed glad. " So umm, wfh?
Well, okay, on principal, I get it, you win. But dang, in terms of money, you saved $3 and passed up "... a girl I liked and who seemed glad. " So umm, wfh?Not to mention the negative impression it creates of western tourists. I always try to look nice, so the girls know I have some money I am willing to spend.
I guess I just have more respect for the Thai, as I came late to the scene and don't see them as subhumans I can pay to treat like shit for $15 USD. They are enterprising hookers trying to make money and the market rate is the market rate. An additional charge for not buying a drink is 100% reasonable. I would have just bought the girl a drink.
Do you remember the name of the bar? Maybe it's the Miss be-Heaven Bar?Retraced my steps today. It was indeed be-Heaven.
Banana Boi
11-03-18, 12:46
Some wanderings I made this week.
Soi 6 - per my live update yesterday, tons of girls yesterday around 3:30 pm. Oddly the later it got the fewer girls I saw. Possibly because they were busy or went for dinner. One of my regulars came back after 3 months. Made me happy to see her.
Kinnaree. It was Tuesday and I broke my golden rule never to go on a Monday or Tuesday because it's dead. What a complete waste of time. Could not have been more than 10-12 girls and they were iBar quality only. Same age group as the older iBar girls too. Not my type. Wasted an hour there thinking things may pick up but definitely didn't. Only decent girls there were 2 of 4 Kit Cat girls I know who came in with an obese Indian man. Even worse than the Tuesday lineup I looked around and no guys are getting HJ's or DFK from the girls which was a given 2 years ago. Too many tourists ruining Kinnaree. Reaffirms why I don't ever mention some of my go to bars.
Passion Jomtien. I think this is the current G club to go to. Don't expect gogo quality but at least they're younger and a couple were cute. Maybe 30 girls. Not sure why I chose my girl other than she said Hello, by sticking her tongue down my throat and hands up my shorts. Still didn't go to a room with her since I was waiting for a cute one who was being manhandled by an old Farang. Passion is how a G club should be. Will be back soon. Too bad it's such a pain to get to without a motorbike.
Club 4 - Very old and overweight staff. One bright spot is Ying who I met 2 years ago. Still young and better than average looking. Nice girl.
Carre Blanc. My favorite G girl is long gone from here but I keep going in hopes to find another like her. No luck. Girls are older here so I didn't stay.
M Club. Still dead.
007 - the best of the lot on Full Love Inn but I didn't visit Pirates this week. Talent is still down but I have a regular girl there who is absolutely wild.
Full Love Inn is really suffering. Complaints from all the girls I talked to on how dead it is. Hoping high season changes things. Sorry girls but Full Love Inn is not a usual destination for most tourists.
Anyone been to Jade House, Camel Toe, Kit Cat, Den, Geisha, Come Together, Xzyte, Booze Lounge, Telephone Bar or any of the other G clubs / BJ bars lately?
Banana Boi
11-03-18, 13:01
I was sitting with a bar beer girl I have known since she worked at a LK Metro gogo bar. Imo she can still work at a gogo bar since she's cute, fun, and under 25. However, she is very self conscious about her stretch marks which aren't even terrible. Anyways, while I was sitting with her the manager hands her salary to her. She said it was for the month of October. To my total shock her pay was under 4000 baht for drinks and salary. Is this right? Is this all those bar beer girls make? Or was there something lost in translation that this was pay for the week? I know gogo girls make at least 10k per 7-10 days if they meet their drink quota.
To my total shock her pay was under 4000 baht for drinks and salary. Is this right? Is this all those bar beer girls make? Or was there something lost in translation that this was pay for the week?I used to read the comments in the facebook pages of some of soi 6 bars. When girls were showing interest and ask questions about how much money they can make, management was saying that they can make around 40 K bahts per month. But it was not detailed how much was from fixed salary and drinks and how much from fucking with customers.
I was sitting with a bar beer girl I have known since she worked at a LK Metro gogo bar. Imo she can still work at a gogo bar since she's cute, fun, and under 25. However, she is very self conscious about her stretch marks which aren't even terrible. Anyways, while I was sitting with her the manager hands her salary to her. She said it was for the month of October. To my total shock her pay was under 4000 baht for drinks and salary. Is this right? Is this all those bar beer girls make? Or was there something lost in translation that this was pay for the week? I know gogo girls make at least 10k per 7-10 days if they meet their drink quota.What's the point to speculate unless you know how many days she worked, how many fines for late or non-attendance, fines for failure to meet drink quota etc. ?
Many girls lose their entire monthly salary, due to poor attendance, so they don't live of it at all. Oom at Crazy House was one of my regulars. She hardly showed up. Got no salary I am sure. Needed to sell some drinks and fuck a few guys.
At most bars I am familiar with girls get paid drink commissions each night, it is not part of their monthly salary. Salary is to show up by a certain time and to dance in gogo bars. Fines for not selling a drinks minimum and not being BFed a minimum number of times.
Some girls are free lancers and only show up selected days, and get no monthly salary at all. They still sell drinks and get bar fined.
Not an expert on Pattaya's bars of course but I imagine the same principals can apply. The rules in each bar vary a lot though.
In Bangkok, Crazy House started out very successfully because they paid higher than normal monthly salaries, maybe 12 K (5 years ago). This allowed them to attract some very good looking girls and few uglies if any at the start. Unfortunately it did not last. They starting accepting any old girls and pay became less competitive.
Some bars like Suzie Wong had severe penalities for girls failing to meet a drinks sold quota. This means the girl might, in some cases be preferring help to reach her quota over cash tips. I know this sounds crazy as she could buy lady drinks herself. LOL There were ways to help. I would only buy lady drinks, and very little for myself. When no one was looking, I could switch glasses and help drink the lady drink, providing it was satisfactory. So order a lady drink that I could drink, could be tequilas, and order for myself, something she preferred to drink. So more lady drinks than customer drinks and I helped her to drink them, and she got closer to quota.
Was I fooled. I doubt it, since I offered her good cash tips instead but she preferred to sell more drinks, where her commission was less, but cut down her fines.
Girls that struggle to get barfined may have to live off monthly salary. Coyotes get paid more, but why? Some of them are crappy.
What girls end up making varies a hell of a lot. Best girl in Suzie Wong was Cambodian and very hard working. She could do several STs on a good night. Never late for work, sold good amounts of drinks so got a full salary as well. She could make 100K to 150K per month. Was using it to build a huge house back across the border. Eventually ran into the problem of not having a Thai Id card to allow her to work the bar. Police and govt crackdowns on foreign girls. Forced to take on a sponser/boyfriend.
I was sitting with a bar beer girl I have known since she worked at a LK Metro gogo bar. Imo she can still work at a gogo bar since she's cute, fun, and under 25. However, she is very self conscious about her stretch marks which aren't even terrible. Anyways, while I was sitting with her the manager hands her salary to her. She said it was for the month of October. To my total shock her pay was under 4000 baht for drinks and salary. Is this right? Is this all those bar beer girls make? Or was there something lost in translation that this was pay for the week? I know gogo girls make at least 10k per 7-10 days if they meet their drink quota.Almost certainly for the week, if not the day.
I booked my flight to Thailand mid November and it's going to be my first time visiting Pattaya. I have some experience mongering in Tijuana but want to try something new and the current political situation isn't looking good in Mexico.
So the things I'm looking forward to trying are: Soi 6, Freelance Disco, Beach Road, and Soapies.
I don't want to spend over 3000 baht on a girl so I'm going to avoid gogo bars and limit soapies.
What I look for in a girl isn't much: early to mid 20's, performs well in bed, smells normal, not fat.
Also I want to get a full canvas suit made at Ama Fashion for around $300.
Are there any other activities that you recommend I should try or places to visit or just general advise?
I'll be sure to contribute to the forum by writing proper reports.
Oh also some small travel questions, will there be an issue finding a taxi to pattaya at the airport at midnight 1 am or should I book ahead using an online taxi service? I assume it would take about an less than an hour to go through customs and get a sim card because the lines would be shorter during midnight.
LittleBigMan
11-04-18, 02:00
I was sitting with a bar beer girl I have known since she worked at a LK Metro gogo bar. Imo she can still work at a gogo bar since she's cute, fun, and under 25. However, she is very self conscious about her stretch marks which aren't even terrible. Anyways, while I was sitting with her the manager hands her salary to her. She said it was for the month of October. To my total shock her pay was under 4000 baht for drinks and salary. Is this right? Is this all those bar beer girls make? Or was there something lost in translation that this was pay for the week? I know gogo girls make at least 10k per 7-10 days if they meet their drink quota.Years pass the general rate for working at a beer bar was 3,000 baht a month so not surprised. If she is still working after all the years she might be doing just fine do to the BF? I know a few Go Go Agencies or whatever call themselves these days make that in a week. Many take 10 day contracts don't make the quote and on payday with all the deductions might get 4-6000 baht.
OK, so it seems FS is not really going to happen in the bar anymore, sign of the times I guess. So how about establishments where they'll pull it out and give you a tug in a dark corner for a couple of lady drinks?
Mr Enternational
11-04-18, 02:44
Also I want to get a full canvas suit made at Ama Fashion for around $300.I don't know what this canvas business is, but I know Chris ain't charging $300 for a suit. You better talk him down to $150. When you get clothes made in Pattaya, the expensive thing is the jacket. Pants and shit are pretty cheap. My friend hooked me on to buying the material and bringing it to one of the ladies at the shops behind Tukcom to sew it up. Will save tons by cutting out the middle man.
You said soi 6, but you should also visit beer bars in other places. Soi 6 is cool but it is a lot different from other beer bars like those on naklua or soi 7 and 8. Some of those are more laid back, you play dice games etc while you get to know the girl. Also try kinnaree gentleman's club or places like that. I didn't really know about them when I was there and only went to kinnaree once.
If you have a list of things you want to try, say 2 girls at a time or similar, make sure and do that. It was easy for me not to do things that were a bit more complicated and I would just get a girl instead of trying to find 2.
I booked my flight to Thailand mid November and it's going to be my first time visiting Pattaya. I have some experience mongering in Tijuana but want to try something new and the current political situation isn't looking good in Mexico.
So the things I'm looking forward to trying are: Soi 6, Freelance Disco, Beach Road, and Soapies.
I don't want to spend over 3000 baht on a girl so I'm going to avoid gogo bars and limit soapies.
What I look for in a girl isn't much: early to mid 20's, performs well in bed, smells normal, not fat.
Also I want to get a full canvas suit made at Ama Fashion for around $300.
Are there any other activities that you recommend I should try or places to visit or just general advise?
I'll be sure to contribute to the forum by writing proper reports.
Oh also some small travel questions, will there be an issue finding a taxi to pattaya at the airport at midnight 1 am or should I book ahead using an online taxi service? I assume it would take about an less than an hour to go through customs and get a sim card because the lines would be shorter during midnight.
I booked my flight to Thailand mid November and it's going to be my first time visiting Pattaya. I have some experience mongering in Tijuana but want to try something new and the current political situation isn't looking good in Mexico.
So the things I'm looking forward to trying are: Soi 6, Freelance Disco, Beach Road, and Soapies.
I don't want to spend over 3000 baht on a girl so I'm going to avoid gogo bars and limit soapies.
What I look for in a girl isn't much: early to mid 20's, performs well in bed, smells normal, not fat.
Also I want to get a full canvas suit made at Ama Fashion for around $300.
Are there any other activities that you recommend I should try or places to visit or just general advise?
I'll be sure to contribute to the forum by writing proper reports.
Oh also some small travel questions, will there be an issue finding a taxi to pattaya at the airport at midnight 1 am or should I book ahead using an online taxi service? I assume it would take about an less than an hour to go through customs and get a sim card because the lines would be shorter during midnight.Funny as fuck. I'm headed to Tijuana for the first time in a few days and then back to Pattaya. So I'm doing the exact opposite of you. Here's some Monkeypaw advice which is as good as it gets. You will get the type of girl that chooses you. That's the final answer on that. Come here with high expectations and you will get plenty of "what the fuck was that all about" moments. If you do a proper report please include all details and perhaps a pic, if possible. And lastly, Google Cherry Taxi Bangkok. Download LINE and book with them for 1000 baht from BKK to Pattaya in private car. The taxis at the airport will want to charge you 1400-1600 at that time because you have no other choice. Don't worry Monkeypaw will be back in Pattaya mid November to get his his fuck on as well. Enjoy.
Another good session with this extravagant girl. Dental braces, spectacles, overlong artificial eye-lashes, hair dyed blond with venetian blond strands, dense tattoo from neck to waist. Used to have cheek piercings but had them removed. Looks like a hard-core plastic doll. Playful, good attitude. Not too skinny. Pussy not too tight, optimally poundable.
Better known as Soi Chiayaphoon or The Poon.Also know as Soi Pothole. IT HAS to be the worst Soi in Pattaya.
Used to have cheek piercings but had them removed.They do that to get dimples. LOL.
Better known as Soi Chiayaphoon or The Poon.That would be "Chaiyaphoon" just to fix the spelling a little.
Seems that even Chaiyaphoon Apartments are designated as in Soi ChalermPhrakiat 25, so must be a very informal nick name, for Americans, since many other countries would not get the joke.
In Bangkok we could say the Wood bar, Chrome bar, Magic tables are in Soi "Eden" LOL (Sukumwit Soi 7/1), Eden being the very long time place there, but only a few would know what we refer to.
The word "Poon" probably doesn't exist in my country unless youth has inherited from USA, but obviously does not appear on American TV shown internationally to my knowledge, so its probably an inter USA joke. We don't have Trash in my country either but at least that word appears regularly on USA TV, so we become aware of it. We don't "root" for a football team either. LOL Seems to have a different meaning in USA.
OK, so it seems FS is not really going to happen in the bar anymore, sign of the times I guess. So how about establishments where they'll pull it out and give you a tug in a dark corner for a couple of lady drinks?Try La Poste on Soi Lengkee for FS in the bar.
Gin And Tonic
11-05-18, 06:36
That would be "Chaiyaphoon" just to fix the spelling a little.
Seems that even Chaiyaphoon Apartments are designated as in Soi ChalermPhrakiat 25, so must be a very informal nick name, for Americans, since many other countries would not get the joke.
In Bangkok we could say the Wood bar, Chrome bar, Magic tables are in Soi "Eden" LOL (Sukumwit Soi 7/1), Eden being the very long time place there, but only a few would know what we refer to.
The word "Poon" probably doesn't exist in my country unless youth has inherited from USA, but obviously does not appear on American TV shown internationally to my knowledge, so its probably an inter USA joke. We don't have Trash in my country either but at least that word appears regularly on USA TV, so we become aware of it. We don't "root" for a football team either. LOL Seems to have a different meaning in USA.I don't know the history but more likely has something to do with my former live-ins home province in Issan of Chaiyaphum. Sounds same but spelt different.
OK, so it seems FS is not really going to happen in the bar anymore, sign of the times I guess. So how about establishments where they'll pull it out and give you a tug in a dark corner for a couple of lady drinks?Telephone bar, but not for a couple of drinks. BJ was 500 bht, IIRC. Most Gentlemens clubs will do FS in the bar, but not in the open. It will be done behind closed curtains.
Mr Enternational
11-05-18, 19:44
Telephone bar, but not for a couple of drinks. BJ was 500 bht, IIRC. Most Gentlemens clubs will do FS in the bar, but not in the open. It will be done behind closed curtains.At telephone bar I think there is a curtain leading to the back, and in that main room is a couch. You can fuck in the open on that. Or upstairs the girl asked if I wanted a room with AC. I said no. So we fucked right in the hallway on the couch up there. I have gotten head at plenty of bars right in the bar area. My favorite place used to be Kangaroo in Patpong. Fuxk on the couch where the TV was. You could see the bar from there.
MainCourse
11-06-18, 04:51
Miami on Soi Post Office is the same as 13/2? Anyways, did you run into the girl on the far right? She's a cute little thing and eager to please. Those rooms that they have upstairs are free for short time but remind me of Soi 6 rooms. But same like you, I stayed nearby and it didn't cost any extra for the girl I picked to come to my room. 1500 inclusive of everything for a couple of hours of hardcore fucking in your own comfortable room is worth it, especially when you have nothing else to do during the daytime. I've been to Miami 3 times and taken 3 decent slim girls. Happy hunting!
P.S. You mentioned "competition" at Palace? Be careful, some folks might get upset because "supposedly" there is no such thing as competing when it comes to barfining a Go Go bar girl. It's supposed to be easy as show up, buy a drink, and go fuck. So they say.Where is the girl on the right from? She is gorgeous. Would love to bump in to her. Yummy. So cute and delicious.
Banana Boi
11-06-18, 07:05
Hit the gogo bars last night. While waiting for FL Hawk I hit Baccara as it's one of the few clubs open before 8 pm. I've almost given up on Baccara. It's really the same group of girls for 2-3 years now. Not saying a newbie should miss Baccara since it still has pretty girls but for someone like me it's a miss. I really only like 1 girl in there and she's hardly there!
Met FL Hawk and took him to Palace. Was shocked to see my favorite Palace girl there after a 6 month absence. Imo the cutest girl on WS bar none. Lineup was no different than before. A bit quiet with only 2 rotations and a group of models. Girls saw me and looked around for MP only to see FL Hawk.
Decided to take FL to Panda. FL pointed out a very cute petite busty girl #62 or #63. I ended up with my friend who was a Panda Coyote now turned dancer. Thought FL would get #62/63 a drink but he ended up with another girl. Not a top tier bar still. Really the only very nice girl was the one FL saw. She was top quality. (edit - the coyotes outside Panda were nice last night. If you see one outside you like take her with you for a drink because you are not finding anyone better inside).
Next stop Tantra. Imo still tops in Pattaya talent for my taste. Only bar that can compete is Infinity on a good night. 142, 151, model 302 are some of the girls I like there. There were a few more. Still hopelessly searching for #333. Could have stayed there all night. I think Tantra has a very friendly group of girls having fun. All smiles even if you are being a Cheap Charlie like I was last night.
FL and I separated after that as FL went to What's Up to get one of my friends who I introduced him to last trip. I was going to grab food along Soi Diamond and was hauled into Shark by one of my ding dong girls.
I wonder if anyone ever had a good experience with Russian girls in Thailand?
Hit the gogo bars last night. While waiting for FL Hawk I hit Baccara as it's one of the few clubs open before 8 pm. I've almost given up on Baccara. It's really the same group of girls for 2-3 years now. Not saying a newbie should miss Baccara since it still has pretty girls but for someone like me it's a miss. I really only like 1 girl in there and she's hardly there!I told you Cat Ears works at Palace now, but gone are the cat ears, so you might not recognize her.
Met FL Hawk and took him to Palace. Was shocked to see my favorite Palace girl there after a 6 month absence. Imo the cutest girl on WS bar none. Lineup was no different than before. A bit quiet with only 2 rotations and a group of models. Girls saw me and looked around for MP only to see FL Hawk.
Ha. Ha. Ha. Funny. Did they seem sad that I wasn't there to throw roaches at them? Anyways, who is this cutest bar none girl on WS at Palace. You never pointed her out to me.
Next stop Tantra. Imo still tops in Pattaya talent for my taste. Only bar that can compete is Infinity on a good night. 142, 151, model 302 are some of the girls I like there. There were a few more. Still hopelessly searching for #333. Could have stayed there all night. I think Tantra has a very friendly group of girls having fun. All smiles even if you are being a Cheap Charlie like I was last night.I'm still hoping for my #333 as well, but not at Tantra. Good report by the way and thanks for including the numbers. Monkeypaw 2 Paws Up for you.
Banana Boi
11-06-18, 13:10
Place in LK Metro.
Mr Enternational
11-06-18, 14:26
I wonder if anyone ever had a good experience with Russian girls in Thailand?You are crossing wires. In the title you say Russian dancers, then in the body you say Russian girls. Which is it? I don't know about any dancers, but I have fucked 2 Russian chicks in Thailand. The first one went on about wanting a relationship and not just fucking, so I let that ship sail. The second one was a couple of months ago. A chick I met on Tinder. I showed my buddy the pictures and he said hey man, that chick is a hooker. I said well she didn't say anything about money to me. I have friends that have fucked Russian tourists. One is a board member that never posts. He even met up with one chick a couple of times later in Europe before cutting it off.
My favorite place used to be Kangaroo in Patpong. Fuxk on the couch where the TV was. You could see the bar from there.Have you been to Star Of Light in Patpong?. That place is awesome!. A while back, I was there one afternoon and wanted to see what it was all about. Walked in and, it wasn't busy at all. Had two girls give me a BJ on the couch, drinking a beer while the bartender was serving drinks to two customers (I took one of the girls who gave me a BJ to the back to f*ck her). One of the Best experiences I ever had in Bangkok. Kangaroo Bar is no pushover either!.
Member #4591
11-06-18, 19:38
Have you been to Star Of Light in Patpong?. That place is awesome!. A while back, I was there one afternoon and wanted to see what it was all about. Walked in and, it wasn't busy at all. Had two girls give me a BJ on the couch, drinking a beer while the bartender was serving drinks to two customers (I took one of the girls who gave me a BJ to the back to f*ck her). One of the Best experiences I ever had in Bangkok. Kangaroo Bar is no pushover either!.May I ask when a while ago was? Recently? Or is this one of those stories from a million years ago about how much better Thailand was in the past?
May I ask when a while ago was? Recently? Or is this one of those stories from a million years ago about how much better Thailand was in the past?No, you may not ask when awhile ago was. The question pertains to Mr. MrEnternational. If you don't like the response, there IS a thread here called 'Stupid Shit in Thailand' where you can air out your......grievances.
How are the bar in Pattaya during Christmas and New Year's?
Banana Boi
11-07-18, 00:17
Anyways, who is this cutest bar none girl on WS at Palace. You never pointed her out to me.She hasn't been here since I met you. Not really your type. Cute faced with braces and not one of your busty model type. Looks very similar to Cat Ear girl who I don't think you're a fan of.
I told you Cat Ears works at Palace now, but gone are the cat ears, so you might not recognize her.I forgot.
Where is the girl on the right from? She is gorgeous. Would love to bump in to her. Yummy. So cute and delicious.
Palace but not sure if she's still there. She may be back at Ginza or Glass House now.
Member #4591
11-07-18, 10:29
No, you may not ask when awhile ago was. The question pertains to Mr. MrEnternational. If you don't like the response, there IS a thread here called 'Stupid Shit in Thailand' where you can air out your......grievances.Well I don't see the point of posting information in the forum if you are not willing to share more details but thanks for coming out!
Well I don't see the point of posting information in the forum if you are not willing to share more details but thanks for coming out!Yeah? Just I as I stated earlier since you seem to lack clear comprehension, the question in reply was for Mr. E. If he chooses not to respond, that's fine with me. You on the other hand, may I strongly suggest minding your fucking business. I'll say again, you don't like the response?, come to the 'Stupid Shit In Thailand' thread where you can air out your petty ass grievances with me!.
NOW, you can turn off the light!, clown!. FOH.
I am visiting Pattaya early next year, and I like girls who are natural (or very lightly trimmed). Of course, modern trend is for fully shaven (or just a small landing strip), but I prefer natural. What percentage of girls are natural, and where is the best place to pick up girls who are natural? For example would I be better going for freelancers (disco or perhaps beach road), or bar girl rather than one of the dancing girls in the gogos? Any pointers would be appreciated.
Mr Enternational
11-07-18, 18:26
I am visiting Pattaya early next year, and I like girls who are natural (or very lightly trimmed). Of course, modern trend is for fully shaven (or just a small landing strip), but I prefer natural. What percentage of girls are natural, and where is the best place to pick up girls who are natural? For example would I be better going for freelancers (disco or perhaps beach road), or bar girl rather than one of the dancing girls in the gogos? Any pointers would be appreciated.Man you must be trapped in the 70's. Really the only chick that I can remember offhand of having hair is an older school teacher that I used to mess with a few years back. If you are talking about hookers then 9.9 times out of 10 she is not going to have hair. I can't even think of any other non-pros that I mess with that have hair. Maybe try your luck up in Isan.
I met a few girls with unshaved bushes. One I got my trimmers out and trimmed. I guess maybe 25% of the women I had were not shaved.
Man you must be trapped in the 70's. Really the only chick that I can remember offhand of having hair is an older school teacher that I used to mess with a few years back. If you are talking about hookers then 9.9 times out of 10 she is not going to have hair. I can't even think of any other non-pros that I mess with that have hair. Maybe try your luck up in Isan.
Man you must be trapped in the 70's. Really the only chick that I can remember offhand of having hair is an older school teacher that I used to mess with a few years back. If you are talking about hookers then 9.9 times out of 10 she is not going to have hair. I can't even think of any other non-pros that I mess with that have hair. Maybe try your luck up in Isan.Unfortunately Bush is making a comeback in some places in BKK as most Asian punters prefer it. Really sad to see this. I am not a fan. Landing strip up top is ok, but the the rest; bare.
Banana Boi
11-08-18, 02:51
Unfortunately Bush is making a comeback in some places in BKK as most Asian punters prefer it. Really sad to see this. I am not a fan. Landing strip up top is ok, but the the rest; bare.I've been with several girls with a huge Bush. I didn't even know where to start looking down there. Even 3 years ago when I took girls from Sensations. As GS says, likely keep it for the Japanese. I prefer bare. Oddly the most Issan gogo girls you can find are at Windmill and they are all fully shaved, likely because 90% of their customers are Farang.
Man you must be trapped in the 70's. Really the only chick that I can remember offhand of having hair is an older school teacher that I used to mess with a few years back. If you are talking about hookers then 9.9 times out of 10 she is not going to have hair. I can't even think of any other non-pros that I mess with that have hair. Maybe try your luck up in Isan.70's LOL. That is rather exaggerated.
You are suffering Alzheimer's most likely. Girls dancing nude in Long Gun bar in early 2000's had hair, possibly trimmed. Very few totally bald pussies back then I think in that bar. Maybe a percentage. Naturally I particularly remember some of my favourite girls from the era that had some or most had pussy hair. Sheba and Suzie Wong had more totally bald pussies and became almost mandatory last 10 years or so, maybe 15.
Even now plenty of Thai girls have some hair perhaps trimmed to "landing strip" as Goatscrot calls it, but certainly not all completely bald. Some MP girls in Bangkok have too much hair. Probably would not be permitted in Tulip or Snow White but in some other MPs yes. A couple of years back had a very young newbie cart bar girl completely untrimmed. She just did not know any better. LOL Till her clothes came off, no one realised she had magnificent hidden big full tits as well. So I put up with the hair but thought to take her Crazy House to see the nude pubes.
In late 90s there was a time with nude dancing in Nana Plaza. Girls haspussy hair. I even have some pics from that era.
I will say I have seen very little pussy hair in Europe since 2000, but Thailand has always been more conservative and behind in this area.
Day 1, Monday.
I am back! Back in Pattaya for about 17 days of, I hope, fun and adventure.
I flew in from the US via EVA airlines, which I have fondly spoken of previously. They are certainly my recommended airline to use if available to you. Only downside is you have to go through Taipai, and they seem to get the gates, in BKK and LAX anyway, that are about as far from the central terminal as one can get!
Anyway, on to the reports.
I arrived at my hotel mid-afternoon and decided to unpack and rest rather than immediately head to Soi 6 as has generally been my course of action. Banana Boy (BB) is in town and I wanted to see him and we agreed to meet up on Walking Street (WS) that evening. I met up with him around 8 PM and we decided to check out several agogo's. We first went to Palace. They had some 16 girls on stage, with more in reserve, and I was impressed with the number of really cute girls there. There were several girls I would consider Bar Fining (BFing), but the evening was young and we were on a reconnaissance mission. (Plus, I had a girl in mind at another club that I wanted to be my first girl of the trip.) I was also impressed that three hot girls knew BB and came over to either sit with him or to say Hello,. Wow! I did manage to speak with a girl, Nuk (I think that was her name), #163. She is one I may go back to BF later. We stayed there for a while then moved on to the next club, but the night was starting out good. I can often go into an agogo and not find anyone I would strongly consider taking home, but here there several of high quality.
Next we went to a new club I had never been to, Panda. I was again favorably impressed. Lots of super hot girls. I met Me, #57 I believe, a really cute girl and I have plans as well to go back to see and possibly BF. So far, I am impressed with what I am seeing.
Next we went to Tantra, another club I don't think I have been to. Wow. They had a ton of girls in hot school girl outfits, almost every one of them cute and slender. They also had some girls come out for a topless show, but I found most of them a bit chunky, but the school girls were almost all really cute, with a few of them super hot. BB knew one of them and she came over, but we were both in awe of one girl up there (no name or number), and unless BB gets her first, I will try to BF her. Really hot girl. Of course, as I know so well, hotness in body often does not equate to hotness in performance.
BB and I then split up. I went to What's Up as I wanted to see Noi, who I spoke of last April. I had wanted to BF her but she had put me off, saying I surely wanted someone younger (she was around 30, but still looked awesome). Then she was taking some time off on my last few days in Pattaya and I never go to press her, but I was assuming that she would go with me. But yeah, three clubs with plenty of super attractive girls!
BB was about to call it an early night, so we split up. I was wanting to BF Noi at What's Up. I raved about her in my previous report, but had failed to BF her, and when I went back to ask her she had taken several days off so I had to leave without getting the chance. I had to way to contact her, so I was not even sure if would be there or even if she would agree to be Bar Finded (BFd). So I entered the club and asked for her, and they went to get her, so she was there. A few minutes later she comes out an she smiles when she sees me.
Side Note: I don't understand how the girls can remember us after months have gone by. I have problems remember girls I had talked to an hour previously, or had sex with the day before! But some of these girls can remember a single encounter a year or two later! How?
But Noi comes over, seemingly happy to see me, and sets down next to me. I bought her a LD and we talked a bit, as best we could with my old ears and the ridiculously loud music anyway. After a while, her friend Baa, who was doing a single dance in the corner, came over. She was younger and tighter, and Noi asked if I wanted to BF Baa as she was younger. I told her I was there for her this night. But I bought both girls LDs. Then later another friend, Whan, came over, and more LDs were bought. Whan was crazy and started Frenching me. Not quite my type physically, she was pretty and I liked that she was being physical. Noi wasn't, just holding my hand a little, and I should have taken that as a warning sign. But. I have also found that active ladies in the bar does not lead to great performances in bed. And I liked Noi as she seemed more mature and level headed and, at my age, there is benefit to that!
But, I am too embarrassed to say how much I spent in LDs and, for Baa and Whan, bra-stuffing tips for their personal dancing for me. It was worse than what I would do at Peppermint! But it was fun, but not something I want to do more than once per trip. I mean, I tipped and let them drink away three Soi 6 girls! Kind of strange how we guys know better yet end up buying so many drinks. But again, I knew what was happening and the girls were entertaining, and I was having fun, so it was ok. Once.
The other girls were asking if I was going to BF Noi. Whan wanted me to BF her too! I said I wanted to BF Noi, but it was up to her. They told her what I wanted so she knew when I asked, and she agreed. I wisely have started to only do ST BFs first, and that is what I asked for and she agreed. It was just after midnight and the BF was 1000 and her ST rate was 3000 baht. I agreed and she went to get ready. She looked like the classical girl next door in her street clothes. We took a motorbike taxi to my hotel on Soi 7 for 100 baht.
Now, many of you long time readers know I have a significant problem coming with a condom. Not only that, for whatever reason, I have yet to come either orally or manually with a woman in many years. I have no idea why, as I have received some terrific BJs here, and even after days without a release, it is near impossible. A few years ago I was able to come with a condom about every 3 days, but lately that frequency has gotten worse. However, when I go bare, I am quite sensitive. I can literally spend nearly an hour with intercourse, then with manual stimulation and awesome BBBJs, where I really try come but can't, and then if I enter her bare I can come in 20 seconds. So, it is not necessarily a reduced level of sensations that I have. I mean, the girl can ask why I can't come. I say I can't come easily with condoms. Then she asks then why I can't come with her mouth or hand when it is skin on skin. Um. Here has to be a mental element here, like I am expecting myself to fail, so I fail. But ok, sorry for the self analysis here, but I am obviously a very sexually frustrated person! Screwing all the young babes and not being able to come with them is a curse almost!
Anyway. Noi showers alone then I shower and we are in bed. She has sort of been a dream girl for me. She is not exactly hot or beautiful, and she is around 30 I think, but she is definitely that girl next door who you have lusted over and are dying to have. And here she is. But things don't work out like I had it in my fantasy. She is a bit rushed I feel. I wanted some touching but she wanted to get me hard. The BBBJ was nice while it lasted, but it stopped when I got hard, then she climbed on. She felt very good and I was looking forward for the finish. We did the cowboy, then missionary then doggie, but she was not being all that responsive and avoided any kissing. Then I felt the urge fading and I gave up. She did try some more oral and manual to try to get me off, but by then she acted like she wanted to go back to work. I gave up and, indeed, after the shower she commented on the time and how she needed to get back. We still had time, but she wanted to go. Fine. I was a super gentleman the whole time, but so much for the fantasy. I have a prostate gland full of fluid that can't get out. She did ask if my inability to come was her fault. I said no, which I suppose was mostly true. I should have been able to, even if she had just laid there, but had she shown a bit more excitement or engaged in just a few minutes of foreplay it should have happened. But I am twice her age, so why should be excited to have sex with me?? My wisdom of only doing ST BFs initially paid off here. I still like her and think she is a great girl and I am sure YMMV, but the fantasy with her is dead so I won't attempt to BF her again. I may go say Hello, as she is a great girl. (And after re-reading this, please, don't discount Noi over my experience. If you meet her and like her, go with her. She may be your heaven. Heck, maybe if I went with her again things would be different. Haha.).
This closes my first day back. Have no concern that I am depressed over my fantasy gone sour. I had a great time with BB and we plan to hook up again either tomorrow or the next day. WS is buzzing and full of hot girls for the high season now, and we dudes know the best way to get over a woman to get over another woman! And a number of big posters from here will soon be in town, so I am hoping for an epic time! I hope I can keep up with it all!
Banana Boi
11-08-18, 07:25
Thanks FL. That was definitely a fun evening.
You better get to my Palace girl right at 7:30. That was a rarity the other night that there weren't multiple Japanese guys fighting over her attention. I guess word hasn't gotten out that she has returned. Hopefully your hotel doesn't have one of those anal rules that a girl must be 20 and over. My Palace girl is 19. Bring lots of cash with you for her drinks.
Sorry to hear about Noi. I know you have wanted her for some time now.
Mr Enternational
11-08-18, 08:53
After a while, her friend Baa, who was doing a single dance in the corner, came over. She was younger and tighter, and Noi asked if I wanted to BF Baa as she was younger. I told her I was there for her this night.Why do Thai chicks do this? Why do they try to push you off on a friend when you like them? I met a girl at the market once and we exchanged info. We would always message and one day decided to meet up at the market when she got off work. She brings a friend with her. She kept trying to get me with her friend saying that the friend was more beautiful and light skinned and whatever else. I said I went to talk to you the first time because I liked you, not because I wanted to know a friend of yours.
She did ask if my inability to come was her fault. I said no, which I suppose was mostly true.Come on man. This was your time to let her have it. She asked for feedback and you told her everything was okay. But look at the list of stuff that you told us that she did or didn't do to ruin the session. You should have told it to her; especially by her asking! They won't get better if we do not teach them.
Day 1, Monday.
I am back! Back in Pattaya for about 17 days of, I hope, fun and adventure.
No offense, just genuinely curious. How old are you?
Mr Enternational
11-08-18, 11:13
No offense, just genuinely curious. How old are you?Did you read the report?
"She is not exactly hot or beautiful, and she is around 30 I think.
But I am twice her age, so why should be excited to have sex with me?"
Chocha Monger
11-08-18, 12:45
Unfortunately Bush is making a comeback in some places in BKK as most Asian punters prefer it. Really sad to see this. I am not a fan. Landing strip up top is ok, but the the rest; bare.Some old guys still have a touch of nostalgia for a lush thick 70's Bush, regardless of the risk that it may harbor crotch crickets. As for Japanese mongers, they prefer a full dense Bush with the mild scent of jasmine. They find a well-tended silky soft luxurious Bush very alluring and aesthetically pleasing. Japanese girls apply conditioner, prune, and train their bushes with the skill and obsessiveness of bonsai masters.
Blanquiceleste
11-08-18, 15:38
Why do Thai chicks do this? Why do they try to push you off on a friend when you like them? I met a girl at the market once and we exchanged info. We would always message and one day decided to meet up at the market when she got off work. She brings a friend with her. She kept trying to get me with her friend saying that the friend was more beautiful and light skinned and whatever else. I said I went to talk to you the first time because I liked you, not because I wanted to know a friend of yours.I have always thought of this as a trick question. The girl (you want) is playing you by asking is you want to go with one of her friends when she know you really want to go with her. If you say yes, then her friend will refuse first and then the girl you wanted originally will say "oh, you did not want me really, you wanted my friend, so I also not go", or some shit like that. If you say no, then she will say "look now you hurt my friend's feelings and she cry. I cannot go with you because now I take care of my friend. ".
You can't win here!!
I usually say, I want you today and I want your friend tomorrow and on third day we all go out together. No one is going to hold me to it. And it works.
Why do Thai chicks do this? Why do they try to push you off on a friend when you like them?
I have always thought of this as a trick question. I usually say, I want you today and I want your friend tomorrow and on third day we all go out together. No one is going to hold me to it. And it worksAh. Maybe, she doesn't want to go with you, is not attracted to you,. Maybe. When I run into this, after she's done with her drink, I'll send her back and find someone else. A Wise Man said, many times: it's Your money, Your Time, YOU call the shots. If they aint showing you any love, show them the boot! (Or words to that effect.) Nice tactic, Blanq.
I just spent a couple of days in Pattaya. Left around Noon yesterday, flagged a taxi in the Walking Street area and asked to be taken to Lat Krabang Airport Rail Link station, one station away from Suvarnabhumi Airport, not all the way into the airport itself. Settled on 800 baht including tolls. From Lat Krabang station, I rode the Airport Rail Link to the end of the line at Phaya Thai bts station and then rode the bts train to Nana station. The entire trip from Walking Street to Nana bts station was 2 hours and 5 minutes.
Other than traveling in the middle of the night when there is much less traffic on the expressway and in the city, that is one of the fastest Pattaya/Walking Street-to-Bangkok/Nana area trips I have ever taken so I will probably do it that way again. Maybe do it that way in reverse on the Bangkok/Nana area-to-Pattaya/Walking Street trip as well. Total train costs were about 65-70 baht I think; 40 baht for the Airport Rail (from Lat Krabang station) and 25-30 baht for the bts portion.
Anybody else try it that way or know of an even faster ground transportation route? For me, the downside to taking a taxi all the way from the Pattaya to my apartment near Nana bts and vice versa is the high probability of spending almost an extra hour in city traffic on the Bangkok side. But this method cuts all of that out since you are on an elevated train to and from the Lat Krabang Airport Rail Link station. The taxi takes you right to the steps for that station, easy access to it from the expressway. There seemed to be plenty of taxis at that station for the ride from there into Pattaya as well. And as long as you only have a small bag or wheeled carry-on, those train transfers are a snap.
LittleBigMan
11-09-18, 02:12
I just spent a couple of days in Pattaya. Left around Noon yesterday, flagged a taxi in the Walking Street area and asked to be taken to Lat Krabang Airport Rail Link station, one station away from Suvarnabhumi Airport, not all the way into the airport itself. Settled on 800 baht including tolls. From Lat Krabang station, I rode the Airport Rail Link to the end of the line at Phaya Thai bts station and then rode the bts train to Nana station. The entire trip from Walking Street to Nana bts station was 2 hours and 5 minutes.
Other than traveling in the middle of the night when there is much less traffic on the expressway and in the city, that is one of the fastest Pattaya/Walking Street-to-Bangkok/Nana area trips I have ever taken so I will probably do it that way again. Maybe do it that way in reverse on the Bangkok/Nana area-to-Pattaya/Walking Street trip as well. Total train costs were about 65-70 baht I think; 40 baht for the Airport Rail (from Lat Krabang station) and 25-30 baht for the bts portion.
Anybody else try it that way or know of an even faster ground transportation route? For me, the downside to taking a taxi all the way from the Pattaya to my apartment near Nana bts and vice versa is the high probability of spending almost an extra hour in city traffic on the Bangkok side. But this method cuts all of that out since you are on an elevated train to and from the Lat Krabang Airport Rail Link station. The taxi takes you right to the steps for that station, easy access to it from the expressway. There seemed to be plenty of taxis at that station for the ride from there into Pattaya as well. And as long as you only have a small bag or wheeled carry-on, those train transfers are a snap.My trip usually to Bangkok / Nana.
I park my bike at the station 40 baht, get a ticket to Ekaimai (spelling wrong?) 108 baht I tell the lady like to get off at Udon Suk (BTS stop) once off I walk up to the station get a ticket (47 baht) to Nana.
The buses leave every 20 minutes to Ekaimai, personal choice trip usually to stop is 2 hrs 15 minutes, BTS to Nana another 15 minutes.
Reverse usually is a bit longer since from Ekaimai bus station there is only 1 stop to another station prior to getting on the highway to Pattaya, Traffic is heavy on Sukhumvit if you travel on weekdays, I've done it on Sundays and it is much better.
Eszpresszo
11-09-18, 03:39
Some old guys still have a touch of nostalgia for a lush thick 70's Bush, regardless of the risk that it may harbor crotch crickets. As for Japanese mongers, they prefer a full dense Bush with the mild scent of jasmine. They find a well-tended silky soft luxurious Bush very alluring and aesthetically pleasing. Japanese girls apply conditioner, prune, and train their bushes with the skill and obsessiveness of bonsai masters.Man has lived with female pubic hair with no problem since his existence. Yet, you somehow think its a health hazard since porn made it fashionable for some in the 21st century. If you think the absence of pubic hair is a norm on women, you haven't been with many women. A touch of nostalgia? No, it's called reality. Old guys? No, just guys who actually get laid.
Come on man. This was your time to let her have it. She asked for feedback and you told her everything was okay. But look at the list of stuff that you told us that she did or didn't do to ruin the session. You should have told it to her; especially by her asking! They won't get better if we do not teach them.The main fault is with my own mind and / or body. She was better than Fon, if you remember the star fish I still have the hots for, who has been able to get me off twice, so why not Noi? She did what is typically expected. I mention things to you all that she could have done to have enhanced my pleasure. With me, it is possibly that just a couple of tiny little enhancements might have been enough to get me over the edge. But I don't know, so why blame her when it was 99% me?
But, I agree, I could have told her that the lack of even a bit of foreplay, the lack of some kissing and in making me feel rushed, might have been sufficient to have prevented me from getting off. Yes, I should have done that. So excuses aside, I agree. I may still not have come, but I would have felt better about the whole thing.
Chocha Monger
11-09-18, 04:54
Man you must be trapped in the 70's. Really the only chick that I can remember offhand of having hair is an older school teacher that I used to mess with a few years back. If you are talking about hookers then 9.9 times out of 10 she is not going to have hair. I can't even think of any other non-pros that I mess with that have hair. Maybe try your luck up in Isan.Bald is best! A bushy thicket on the puss could provide cover and concealment for crab lice, genital herpes, warts, syphilitic sores, and molluscum contagiosum. It is easier to spot unwanted complications when a pussy is clean and bald. Some girls grow a thick Bush to hide things that mongers would rather not see.
No offense, just genuinely curious. How old are you?Entering my mid-60's. I was made to feel better last night when several ladies were shocked, saying they thought I was 50. Man, I wish I had been visiting LOS when I was only 50! Condoms were not much of problem back then!
Day 2, Tuesday.
My first morning back in Pattaya.
My hair is getting a bit long (for me) and easily gets frazzled. I walked down to my standard hair cutting place on Soi 13, but they were closed at the time. I walked around a bit and came back after their opening hour, but only the nail trimmer lady was there. The lady who cuts hair was not going to be there for yet another 40 minutes, so I left and found a short distance away on Beach Road (BR) a new shop, Ann's Beauty Shop. She had just opened up so I went in and she did a pretty good job making me look reasonable again. But it exposed some of my gray so I went back to my hotel and, armed with some hair color I brought with me, dyed it back to a nice shade of brown. Ladies here definitely react to older people differently, and I knew my color was fading when I came over here, so I came prepared with a box of For Men Only. Caution: If you color you hair in a hotel, be sure you have washed your hair thoroughly! Last time I didn't rinse if sufficiently and ended up with a stained towel the hotel fined me for.
But in walking I did see the parts of the new beach after restoration. It looks good. There is a real beach in Pattaya! I just hope it lasts.
I am still jet lagged and working on the reports has taken a back seat, but I am trying to get the basics written before I forget. Even so, I rested much of the afternoon, not really wanting to sleep, but the body demanded it. I had intended to visit Soi 6 around 2 PM, but that was too early for Banana Boy (BB) so I ended up napping off and on until about 4 (and BB was not feeling well and he napped even longer) when I finally stepped on the bus to Soi 6.
After the average encounter yesterday, I wanted to meet up with a sure thing, namely the girl who gave me two awesome encounters on Soi 6 last April. I keep a spreadsheet of my encounters, and viewing it on my cell phone, the girl was Nam from Quicky Bar. I had rated her fairly high in looks, and a 9 in performance, having gotten me off both times with her. So, my mission was to see if she was still there and, if so, to finally drain my prostate.
I found the bar and Nam with still there, but she was busy with a customer. So I left and went down a little ways and as I passed the Ruby Bar and lovely girl named Fern captured my eyes. I went over to say Hello,. She was a young cutie with a two piece outfit exposing a delicious waist. She had awesome legs, a super cute face and apparently nice boobs. I went inside with her and ordered my drink and when she sat down by me I offered to buy her a drink. Her English wasn't too bad. She was from Chang Mai and had been in Pattaya for a few months. (Note, however, that if you ask a girl how long she has been in Pattaya, though you expect her to tell you how long sit has been since going there to work or live, she will likely tell how long she has been there since she last left and returned back. I used to wonder how I always seemed to meet girls who were new in town! She could have been working in Pattaya for 10 years, but if she went home for a week and just returned a month ago, she will say she has been in Pattaya 4 weeks.) After a bit Fern got a little affectionate and I agreed to go upstairs with her. The upstairs rooms at Ruby are decent. They have their own bathroom and shower, which removes some of the sleaze factor of the Soi 6 bars. Anyway, we stripped and went for a shower. Exposed, her breasts were on this small side and just beginning to sag a tiny bit. She later commented that she wanted implants to lift them back up again, but they are still a nice mini-handhold and the drooping is not objectionable yet. I noticed no other signs of child birth, so the droopiness may be due to age, though she appeared to be in her mid 20's and I may have simply not notices stretch marks. Her body was just starting to go soft, but don't take that in a negative way. A little softness compared to a hard body with bones exposed is not necessarily bad. But before I proceed, let me discuss my theory of how male and female bodies fit together.(what? You say. I may, or may not, end up making sense of this.).
I have noted that with some women of particular body builds that I seem to "fit" with them differently during sex. I don't simply mean how the penis fits in the vagina, but how our entire bodies mesh together and work together during sex. I mean, with chubbier girls, I can't enter as deeply and doggie may not work well. That takes away from the experience and why I, still being slender I suppose, won't do fat women. There may be too much squish to be able to bang her hard for example. With skinny ones, I can have different issues in how we fit together, such as their pubic bone digging in my pelvic region as there is a minimal layer of protective fat. That can physically hurt! And with some positions, say in doggie, everything may fit together well, though with some short girls you may have to spread your knees farther apart to get low and that can reduce your ability to thrust, or her thighs may too long, so that you need to rest your knees on a pillow to gain height, which causes other issues. Get me?? For me, a great fit is when we are in missionary, body contact is maximized, the height of her vaginal opening is the same as the height of my Johnson so there is no restrictions to movements, her boobs are contacting my nipples to provide stimulation, we can kiss or whatever, etc. Many women we can manage to fit well with to enhance the experience, while with others we have to make accommodations the best we can. When it all comes together, things go really nicely.
So anyway, after the shower, we started with a nice BBBJ. It was good, and after she got me good and hard she asked if I was ready for a condom. I asked if she could blow me a while longer and she smiled and did so. When it did go on, she entered me in cowboy and her pussy was wet and warm. I was sure I would be able to come with her. She kissed a little and we did the typical positions, but for whatever reason I was starting to lose the feeling. Does my Johnson go a little numb after a while? She asked what was wrong and I attempted to explain, but many of the girls think when you say you can't come with a condom you're lying and are simply trying to get them to go bareback. I did not ask for bareback, I only stated how I am, but the feelings were gone. I give up but she had me remove the condom and she tried again orally, but by then, it is over for me. I remained hard due to the Apcalis and she was reluctant to stop trying, but she finally got the message and stopped. She really tried and I gave her a 100 baht tip on top of her 1000 fee for her effort. We showered and I enjoyed watching her dress and reapply makup.
She was actually a good provider and I am not adverse to seeing her again. But if you want to talk about the level of attractiveness of Soi 6 girls vs WS girls, she could easily be on WS in any of the clubs. Consider her a bargain. It has been a rare WS bar girl who did any better than Fern. I give her an 8 for performance, 8 to 9 for face and 8 for body.
Feeling even more sexually frustrated, I returned to Quicky to ask for Nam, believing her to be the hot girl who got me off twice last year. She was available and they called her over and.this is the girl that made me come twice? She was short, though with shapely legs, but with a plain face and I can't envision that I would have ever chosen this girl to begin with. Did I make a mistake in my reporting or in reading my database? Was this a different Nam perhaps? But she said she remembered me! I was about to simply say Hi then walk away, but I did sense something sexual about her, though why I am not sure, and maybe I did sort of remember that I did see her as an experiment of sorts in being with a short woman. (And I do that sometimes. I remember being a super petite girl that I wasn't all that attracted to just to see what that body type would be like. And in trying a girl who was larger than I like but she had big boobs and I wanted to remember what big boobs felt like!) So when she bluntly asked if I wanted to get on with it, I agreed. So, without any drinks, upstairs we went. Before proceeding, let me add that our room had an attached shower, but the bed was still horrid. Very hard with a perhaps a few layers of fabric between the surface and the coils. And seeing the room was a final confirmation this was not the bar where I had met the girl I was looking for, as it had a separate shower. I distinctly remember that.
So guys, let me simply say this girl was a dynamo. This became a PSE experience. She gave an awesome BBBJ and rode me for all she was worth. I, of course, was having problems. I was failing, ready to give up. I was dejected with my performance, and she was dejected about what she felt was her inability to get me off. I was starting to limp away but she wanted me to try intercourse again after a second round of oral and manual failed. She sucked and got me hard again (thanks for Apcalais). I put on another condom, this time adding a bit of lube to the tip, and it worked! Sort of. In pounding her, she started to dry out and the tip of condom kind of stuck inside her. The base of the condom was still in place on my Johnson, but the condom had stretched and I was screwing the inside of the condom basically. So things were feeling a little strange as I was reaching the point of no return. I did manage to come, but it felt weird and incomplete. When I pulled out, the tip of the condom stayed inside her but the base remained on me, so it was stretched out quite a bit. Very odd. After I pulled out of her by about 2" the tip came out with a snap. I have never seen a condom stretch like that or do that! But, I did come, sort of, but it was not exactly a pleasant feeling. I mean, and I presume it is the same for you all, when you end all stimulation the exact instant you reach the point of no return, it takes a while for the ejaculate to come out, and the resulting orgasm is, well, weird. Not exactly satisfying. That is how this orgasm felt. Not very satisfying. My luck.
Her fee was 1000, but I tipped her 500. Crazy perhaps, but she deserved it. I paid 3000 to a girl 16 hours ago who didn't do a quarter of what Nam did, though she was certainly prettier and worth a bit more just for that. I am sure we spent the full hour and I did not feel rushed the entire time either. Her only focus was to get me off. She is barely average in appearance, but she was one of those girls that gave her all and deserved the bonus for her hard work.
Like I said, she is a short girl. Standing flat she was able to lick my nipples without bending. Nice legs, but a tad bit chubby in the waist. Short hair with a sort of cute face. Probably early 30's. Not one I would have chosen normally, nor did she get me off the first time I saw her (I checked my records) nor one that even have that great of a performance.
I left her with a hug, amazed what that short women was able to do, though still a bit uncomfortable due to the strange orgasm I was left with. So what about the girl I had originally been searching for, the one that got me off twice before? What happened? I will reveal all in the next report.
By now it was dark and I was hungry, so I ate at the Mexican place I like on Soi 7. It was Taco Tuesday there and I enjoyed a couple of tasty tacos. After that, I went back to the hotel and fought off sleep, returning to WS at around 10 PM. People were pouring in at that time. I saw the sexy lady tourist police woman, and noticed there was a lot of police on duty. I later found out the head of the tourist police was there, some general, to put on some display about adhering to the law for an upcoming celebration, where they release the little boats into the water. For a while I was concerned they were doing a mass raid.
I was tired and really didn't want to visit an agogo. My throat was already a bit sore from the smoke and need to shout to talk the night before, so I wanted to stay in clear air. I brought limited clothing and each time I visit a bar I feel I have to launder my shirts to get the stink out. Ugh.
But being tired, I really just wanted to find someone to go to sleep with in comfort. I mean, I didn't want to have to go into a smoky bar and all that, then get a girl who may or may not perform, then see her leave or have to pay extra for LT where she might was to leave at 5 AM or who be able to sleep herself until 5 AM. I wanted rest, but with a warm, mature lady next me. I had a woman in mind, Fern, the freelance girl from Red Car I had hooked up with April. Fern was mature and really sweet, but not a spring chicken. She had a nice body for her age, with some nice boobs and legs. She hooks as her mother had a horrible degenerative disease and her sister had died, leaving the bulk of the care to her and money was needed. So sad. I had described her as older nerd that sort of attracted me. Well, she is not a nerd, she only wears nerdish glasses. But what I most remember is certainly not her looks, but her kindness, caring and her warm, super soft body. I had her Line and had told her a while back I would be in Pattaya, but not when. But I know she hangs at Red Car and I felt she would be there. When I arrived, the bar was dead but after a bit she showed up. She walked by, seeing me as she did, but sat down out of sight from me. But after a few minutes, she comes over and calls out my name. She had not seen me in 6 months, but she recognized me in the dim light of the bar. How? We hugged. She was soft and warm. I took her home.
She was just as nice as ever, sharing that her mother died. I am sure that is a huge load off of her, but here she is, still hooking. But she was still soft and warm and still had a pretty tight body for one of her age (looks mid to late 30's but probably mid 40's). Face was still plain and not the most attractive, but her warmth, super soft skin and sense of caring made up for it.
We had sex, which was not exactly special, but there was foreplay that was close to a GFE in many ways. Not a lot of kissing and certainly no bare back intercourse, but the foreplay and warmth made it was all good. Then in the morning, she initiated sex by going under the covers to give me a BJ. As she didn't get me off last night, she was more determined in the morning, and we went through two condoms to try to get there. I failed. I had given up but she encouraged me to rub myself against her butt. Was she offering me bareback? She said something which was either "don't go inside" or "you go inside". I didn't ask for clarification, but began rubbing her, and getting harder, on the outside. In the position we were in I couldn't enter her anyway, but I was doing some probing. I had her roll over and I got on top, using lube so I could hump her stomach. Sheesh, I am and elder and only doing a step about a dry hump. I moved down to get closer to her hole and see if there were any objections, and there were none. But her legs were together so I still lacked a clear path to entry, if that is want I wanted to try.
I rolled her back on her side and probed some more, moving to a different position to give better access, but my better sense finally took over and I gave up. Her pussy was feeling inviting and warm, but I stayed out. I have no idea if she would have pulled away if I had tried to actually enter her, but the 20 seconds of pleasure I would have allowed myself was not worth it.
But she was the warm body I needed for the night. For you guys that go to Red Car, Fern the Nerd can be a great choice for a caring woman if you treat her well. I gave her 2000 for the night and for two intense rounds of sex. She was the warm body I needed. To get equivalent performance, treat her kindly and you may need to see her twice.
So, to summarize the day, I had Nam from Quicky Bar on Soi 6. Not a looker, but she is capable of giving you a PSE. Next was Fern from Red Car. Older but willing to go slow.
But the question of who was the woman who I thought was Nam at Quicky? I rechecked and I made a reading error. The actual girl was An from at Halifax Bar on Soi 6. I guess I know where my first stop tomorrow will be!
Steve 9696
11-09-18, 05:23
Entering my mid-60's. I was made to feel better last night when several ladies were shocked, saying they thought I was 50. Man, I wish I had been visiting LOS when I was only 50! Condoms were not much of problem back then!First, congrats for still bringing it in your mid sixties. Even if you aren't finishing the deed, you are still in the game!
Second, you don't need to apologize for buying a bunch of lady drinks. Don't let the forum judge you. If you had a blast, that is all that matters. I once had two Russian gals to a room and the sex was fine, but the naked karaoke and sushi and Jack and Coke was finer! The part without the dick in the pussy was the best part. No shame in that.
On your inability to finish, I'd offer the following:
1. Don't underestimate the power of DFK. A good DFK or lack thereof can totally make or break your ability to finish.
2. Don't be afraid to finish yourself by hand. A little oil, some slippery FIV at the same time or she plays with herself in full view. Should do the trick.
3. Are you using some enhancer like Viagra? If not, the help it gives with hardness means you can fuck more and harder and that can get you toward the finish line.
4. Don't give up so easily -- but you have to find a hard worker. On my 8th FKK girl in two days, my gal was really having to work the BJ for a long time. I went to help out and she said "No! I will keel you" (Romanian accent) and swatted my hand away. Five minutes later I went to call it and she says NO! She kept at it another ten minutes, while encouraging me to finger her pussy (see point 2) and BAM. Finally happened. (BTW had to do two hand finishes when the chem just wasn't there.).
5. Have you tried two girls? For me, having a BBBJ while DFKing another girl (with optional FIV) is a real game changer. Can't do that with only one girl!
Hope this helps. Have fun. Super envious of your long stay!
Did you read the report?
"She is not exactly hot or beautiful, and she is around 30 I think.
But I am twice her age, so why should be excited to have sex with me?"Guess I can't read.
Entering my mid-60's. I was made to feel better last night when several ladies were shocked, saying they thought I was 50. Man, I wish I had been visiting LOS when I was only 50! Condoms were not much of problem back then!Right on, go strong.
First, congrats for still bringing it in your mid sixties. Even if you aren't finishing the deed, you are still in the game! Haha, yes I am! I am often embarrassed to admit some of my issues, but I am certainly out here playing the game! It is not always fun and I get depressed at things, but I am alive, I can still get it up, I am having sex with young, hot (legal) ladies and overall having a blast regardless.
Second, you don't need to apologize for buying a bunch of lady drinks. I guess it sounds like I am, but mainly I go on about it to show that it is ok if you know what you are doing. Just make sure you are having a good time and when you look back later at it, you are ok with it. In my case, for the time spent and the pleasure received, it was worth the $40 or so it cost me.
1. Don't underestimate the power of DFK. A good DFK or lack thereof can totally make or break your ability to finish. For one, the girl has to be willing to do that. And as my later reports will show, I have had that. It helped get me closer, but is not a cure.
2. Don't be afraid to finish yourself by hand. A little oil, some slippery FIV at the same time or she plays with herself in full view. Should do the trick. That doesn't work for me. In the local AMPS, the touch of an Asian woman can get me off relatively easily. It doesn't work here. That points to me having a mental issue, right? It is like it has become ingrained in me that if I don't go bareback intercourse in Thailand, or unless more than 3 or 4 days have elapsed, I can't come. And that time is getting longer! A few years ago I could come with a condom every 3 days here. This time I had had no release for 10 days before I was able to finally come in a condom! What is up with that?! With the proper stimulation at home, I am quite capable of coming twice a day, day after day, so what is being in Thailand doing to me? Haha.
3. Are you using some enhancer like Viagra? If not, the help it gives with hardness means you can fuck more and harder and that can get you toward the finish line. I use Apcalis. It keeps me hard. But I may have a stamina issue sometimes. I simply tucker out and if I am trying really hard to reach that cliff, I sometimes seem to tire out before I get there. But at times it seems that as I approach the cliff, the cliff suddenly gets higher!
4. Don't give up so easily -- but you have to find a hard worker. On my 8th FKK girl in two days, my gal was really having to work the BJ for a long time. I went to help out and she said "No! I will keel you" (Romanian accent) and swatted my hand away. Five minutes later I went to call it and she says NO! She kept at it another ten minutes, while encouraging me to finger her pussy (see point 2) and BAM. Finally happened. (BTW had to do two hand finishes when the chem just wasn't there.). One girl I had whose report I have not yet posted, as well as my Thai GF, let me nearly have their way with them in this regards. I always fail. I have had a lifelong issue with having difficulties coming orally, and with age it has just gotten worse. It can feel really good, and I can get close, but if the girl even moves her tongue a bit, it can upset the balance and I lose the feeling. It just dies. But really, nothing can beat the sensations of a pussy. It just grips your whole penis in warm, smooth pleasure that no mouth or hand can match. Some sex toys can come close however!
5. Have you tried two girls? For me, having a BBBJ while DFKing another girl (with optional FIV) is a real game changer. Can't do that with only one girl! That is on my list. The only 3-way I have had in LOS was 3 years ago. They weren't the best and I don't remember if I came or not. Likely not, as I was upset when they asked for a tip, which I do remember. But there is that set of lez lovers here that free lance I need to contact.
Thanks for the suggestions, they are all excellent. I am wondering if I may need to relax more. I should be able to just lie back and let it happen, but it has not proven to be that simple. While I do think this is largely a mental thing, going to a shrink and telling him I need help to be able to ejaculate with condom with Thai sex workers is not something I will do! However, this problems seems to be extending to my Thai GF, and if that continues, especially if I finally commit to her and become exclusive with her, then I will have to address it. Heck, she will demand it!
Well great. One of my providers from yesterday seems to have nicked my Johnson with her teeth, and I have a 10 mm diameter brown spot around the nick on my Johnson. No more BBBJs for me for a week probably. I will be with my Thai GF in 2 weeks, so at least it should be healed by then.
Just another thing to be concerned about for you married or committed guys in particular. I was with a girl with braces so it probably happened then. I don't know. She told me she was not doing any smoking (BF) because of the braces, but she did so very briefly and must have nicked me. Sigh. I at least hope the ladies won't think I am diseased and refuse me, but there will certainly be no bareback activity, only perhaps a bb handjob, for a while, if for no other reason that it needs to heal and not get infected.
I am putting some antibiotic ointment on it. Any other suggestions?
Yeah man, I am playing the game!!!
Well great. One of my providers from yesterday seems to have nicked my Johnson with her teeth, and I have a 10 mm diameter brown spot around the nick on my Johnson. No more BBBJs for me for a week probably. I will be with my Thai GF in 2 weeks, so at least it should be healed by then.
... She told me she was not doing any smoking (BF) because of the braces, but she did so very briefly and must have nicked me.
I am putting some antibiotic ointment on it. Any other suggestions!One of the worst things to happen when on a mongering holiday. Once happened to me in Jakarta because of a dammaged toilet seat. My cock got pinched ever so slightly. The cycle of erection and going limp again makes the penis a difficult place to heal. There's a healing nasal & eye ointment called Bepanthene. It contains no preservative. Don't know if it is available in Thailand but it will not works wonders anyway.
Well great. One of my providers from yesterday seems to have nicked my Johnson with her teeth, and I have a 10 mm diameter brown spot around the nick on my Johnson. No more BBBJs for me for a week probably. I will be with my Thai GF in 2 weeks, so at least it should be healed by then.
Just another thing to be concerned about for you married or committed guys in particular. I was with a girl with braces so it probably happened then. I don't know. She told me she was not doing any smoking (BF) because of the braces, but she did so very briefly and must have nicked me. Sigh. I at least hope the ladies won't think I am diseased and refuse me, but there will certainly be no bareback activity, only perhaps a bb handjob, for a while, if for no other reason that it needs to heal and not get infected.
I am putting some antibiotic ointment on it. Any other suggestions?
Yeah man, I am playing the game!!!Hi Hawk.
What a blow, no pun intended. Last February I returned home with several bites on my body but luckily for me I can bruise easily and I actually showed the missus and asked her to put some cream on them.
Enjoying your post.
Crazy4Thai
11-09-18, 06:45
FL Hawk, welcome back! I am a few years older than you and as a 14 year survivor of prostate cancer have some physical issues too. I can still get off but it takes the right dedicated and understanding woman. I have a list of regulars who are good to me and make it happen. As an old man, I think being old is really the first hurdle. I do enjoy the eye candy but have not chosen a young cutie in a few years. Most of them have zero interest in me and why should they? To my eye there is no shortage of beautiful women in their 30's and even 40's. So for me it starts with good chemistry after I find one attractive. Sometimes I can be fooled though and it turns out they are just really good at hustling drinks. It is not uncommon for a woman to comment on my age. I asked one recently "what should I do? Just stay in my room?" She said yes. Well, I say "NEXT!" I still have a very good time and still find a real gem once or twice a week. It is my opinion that Noi did not really want to go with you. When they do that BS thing about "take my friend" the are trying to dodge the encounter. Noi was only too happy to take (more of) your money but that is all it was. Her heart was no in it. In my world it is the Ferns who really make it worth staying in the game. NEXT!
The weather is being a little uncooperative and I went to sleep too early last night and, hence, got up too early this morning, so I am getting caught up with my reports at least.
Day 3, Wednesday.
After Fern left, I went down for breakfast then watched the election returns while I did some writing. I was contacted by a We Chat girl who was cute, but then got very upset at me when I refused to book with her immediately. When I would not schedule a time with her she said asked why I responded to her and that I was wasting her time. Sheesh. I told her I was busy and to be patient, and she told me to "go away". Haha. Perhaps it is best I let her be!
My first goal of the day was to try to find An, the girl that succeeded where few did – getting me off. So around 2:30 PM, I headed to Soi 6 and walked all the way down to Halifax, but they told me she was home and were not sure when she might be back. Bummer. But there was a cute girl there in a college style outfit who was tall, had great legs, slender figure and decent English. Like the girl before, her name was Nam, but where Quicky Nam was short, Halifax Nam was tall. I ended up BFing her and she was a good performer. She seemed of a higher class than many of the other girls on Soi 6. Upstairs, she started off with a really slow BBBJ, which I like. I liked that she did not appear to be in a rush. She kept it up long past when I was fully erect, then the condom went on and I was inside her. She felt good. We seemed to have a good fit, especially in doggie, and we kept at that a long time. I was hitting her cervix and it was all well and good. When I had troubles, obviously, she tried manual and additional oral stimulation to no avail. I will add that her body was not quite as good as I had hoped. She was 28 with child, and the effects of that were revealed after the cute outfit came off. She still had a beautiful face and great legs, but the boobs and body showed signs of some wear and tear and her body shape had become distorted as happens in mommies. Still, she remained cute with a lovely face. She didn't question my not coming, and I certainly didn't make a deal out of it. She was nice and all and I can recommend her, but other than the wonderful BBBJ, pretty face and decent English, there was nothing special, other than she looks hot when you first see her.
I left and walked around and Woi at Ruby Club gave a big Hello, and smile as I passed by. She had a beautiful face. Stunning, with a brilliant smile and piercing eyes that let me overlook the fact she had a bit of heft to her. I realized that as we sat and attempted to talk, but the eyes and smile won me over. I figured I would so some more research on my "fitting" theory with a woman with a thicker waist. So we went upstairs and when she undressed I kind of knew I would not be coming with her. She was flat as a board and her curves were not well expressed. In fact, I decided to use her condom, as why waste one of my expensive super thin condoms on a girl I had no chance of coming with.
But the experience became near GFE. She started off simply touching and kissing. The kissing surprised me, but basic kissing turned into French kissing, and she was on top of me kissing and touching, looking at me with that gorgeous face and eyes, for a good 15 minutes. I was as hard as a rock from it. And I wondered if the great frenching might help me get off.
Then I was wondering if she wanted bare back sex! We were on our sides and she maneuvered to put her pussy within an inch of my Johnson. Was she super stoked with passion and she wanted me plunge myself in to her? Do I try to enter her? Ahh, such the things desperate men think of when they have a hard Johnson and a nearby pussy. I restrained myself and didn't act like a fool, but it sure added to the experience and got me so hot. But regardless of any intent she may have had, she soon thereafter put a condom on me, then climbed on top in Cowboy and started humping away.
That was the end of the hotness. She was only partially wet and the feelings were not the best. Here I was, burning with desire from her kissing touching and piercing eyes, and she was barely wet. After 5 minutes of her on top I rolled her over for missionary and, noticing she had some lube out (and wondering why she wasn't using it), applied it and re-entered her. It felt better, but we definitely had a fitting problem. Her pubic bone was prominent out and was hard. I was surprised as she had a few extra inches on her waist, but it was not padding her pubic bone any. It actually hurt a bit, and I tried to enter from either side rather than the center. We tried doggie which was better and she seemed to enjoy it more too, but she was unable to stay wet. I finally gave up after another position change or two. She remained relaxed with no sign of wanting to hurry, and was sad I was unable to come. We laid together for a while to wind down, which I liked, then it was to the shower. In summary, I liked her I appreciated the passionate experience that she gave me. There was no BJ, which I missed, but the kissing made up for that, but when we just didn't fit and we needed lube the whole time, it just wasn't meant to be. I can certainly recommend her if you like the body type or just want a girl to lay next to you and kiss you for a while, and to stare lovingly into your eyes. Of course YMMV, but now that I have done her, there is really nothing to send me back to her. Face 8. 5, body 5, performance 7.
Leaving there, I was called over by Pat at Nature Bar. Actually, she first called me over when I was walking down to find An and I told her I might see her later. Well, she was cute in a way – a spinner. But her face was a bit weird, and in talking to her I learned she had 3 kids. Her breasts were small and, with 3 kids, I figured they had been sucked dry and were probably ugly. I decided to cut my losses and left after buying her one drink.
But then, walking back to BR, I was called over by another woman. She asked if I remembered her. Um um. She said she was Noi who used to be at the Foxy bar. Um um. I don't remember! She was sitting down and was ok looking, but was she my type? She had a fuller figure, had braces, lots of tats, maybe some bigish boods, face. Ummm maybe. Well, I told her I was leaving that I would come back to see her later. I walked away but checked my data base and discovered that I had been with her twice a year ago and I gave her good marks and, like An, she had actually gotten me off! But, man, it had been a year and at night she recognizes me! How?
Coming back towards the hotel I stopped by Subway for dinner on Soi 8, then went to the hotel to do some writing. BB got in contact with me from Soi 6 so I decided to go back and meet up with him. I figured we would remain on Soi 6. He, of course, was with a hot girl, but we decided to leave and go to WS. We both commented on the number of good looking girls as we walked down the street.
So we headed to WS and it was quite crowded again. I have never been to Windmill, so he takes me there, going upstairs. I saw an old man come in, somewhat refined looking, and he went to a girl from behind and grabbed her in the crouch. I expected her to level him, but other than a trace look of annoyance, she does nothing but keep dancing with a smile. Then I saw a guy start licking the pussy of another dancer from behind, and she is smiling as she grinds her butt into his face holding on to the dance pole. I saw some other similar things and, actually, it made me a bit uncomfortable. BB then explained this is the way the club is. The girls are expected to be molested but also expect to get paid for it. But, there were a couple of hot girls in there to my surprise, one or two I could consider bar fining. But I really don't see me going back there. I guess the girls are there willingly so I won't take a moral position here. You may love it, and that is fine with me. But licking the pussy of a hooker who is working down in the dredges is indeed risky stuff! I might be more ok of the scene if I saw the girls give permission to the acts about to be perpetuated on them, but I guess the act of working there is automatic consent to such things.
Anyway, leaving there I said I wished to go to Peppermint. Long term readers of mine will know of my strange behavior regarding a bar girl I met there on my first LOS visit, Fon. I first thought she was one of the most beautiful women I had seen, at least who was a working girl, and drooled at her when I first BFd her and we were headed to my hotel. Turns out she was a star fish, but she was a hot looking star fish and I didn't care, as long as she opened up her legs for me. The next couple of experiences with her a mixed bag with no sex, and I was a fool for sticking by her, and I did not see her a couple of times I came to town as a result, but a year ago we met up outside of work and she was friendly and we, with some of her friends, partied a bit and she didn't ask a thing of me. It wasn't until last April I finally had sex with her again. It was only slightly better that the first time, but she is one girl that has been able to get me off 100% of the times we have tried, haha. But a few months ago she stopped answering my Line messages. I assumed she lost interest, and that was well and good, but I had no clue as to why she suddenly stopped responding. The young Pattaya English teacher I met last year and actually took me out driving around suddenly dropped me too, which was again well and good and probably proper, but why, all of a sudden? I wanted to go to Pepermint to see if she still worked there and see if something happened to her or if she just got tired of me.
So we go in and I quickly see the mamasan who knows me well. BB is with me, and we get the best seats remaining in the house and I start to inquire about Fon. Meanwhile, of course, a hot girl is attracted to BB and she starts a lap dance and he buys her a LD. This guy is incredible!
Meanwhile, Luk the mamasan tells me Fon is still there but she has the night off. She also invites me to her birthday celebration will be held there Sunday. She wants me to come then and BF Fon. Then she does a video call to Fon, which is unexpected. She puts me on and Fon smiles and waves. I find out she had lost her phone and had to get a new phone and new Line account, so that is why she never returned my messages. (Wonder if something similar happened with my English teacher.) Luk helps me add Fon back to my Line account so I can contact Fon again, and insists I text her. I do and Fon responds kindly, but I do not try to arrange a BF yet. But at this point, attention turns to BB.
BB got upset with his bar girl. I saw her leave then he stands up and he is pissed! He has a few words with the mamasan then storms out. From what I can piece together, and BB can speak up here if he wishes, is that his girl accepted a LD from him then got herself bar fined by another dude. This seems to happen on occasion, and it is wrong, and it is especially wrong to do that to a local, as well as to the friend of a good, long term customer, which I was! Even the manager there (former owner) knows me! (Not necessarily a good thing, as it means I blew a lot of money there!) But the code is the code. It is not only bros before hoes, bros before gogo bars with thoughtless hoes. So I really don't want to go back to Peppermint now. I know this happens at all the bars, and I have complained about it several times in the past and accepted that this was how things were, but that doesn't mean we can't protest it in some way, especially when done to established customers and their guests. Anyway, if I have a girl's Line, I don't need to go to the bar and pay their stupid fine and inflated LDs to get her.
I soon left and couldn't find BB. I was low on cash, having only been prepared for another Soi 6 girl, so I decide to go home. And, too, my Johnson has been rubbed to death and needs to rest. When you can't come, girls love to rub your Johnson, and they don't always use enough lube, so it can get worn down. Last visit I let him get abused and ended up taking a day off for him to recover! He is nearing that worn out state, so I think it best I go home, work on these reports, and rest. Two girls a day at my age is not too bad, so no need to press it for three.
And that night I did text Fon a bit. She is willing to see me. But she is of that "Up to you" mentality. I asked if she wanted to meet and she said "Up to you". I replied that I found it was actually always up to the woman! We made no plans however.
Anyway, to summarize for the day, I had encounters with two girls, Nam from Halifax and Woi from Ruby on Soi 6. BRs were either 300 or 350, and the girls each got 1000. I think I tipped both 100 for their efforts.
Tomorrow I will go back to Soi 6 to find Noi I think. Her looks may have deteriorated a bit over the year, not sure, but I can take that if the performance is the same. And if the performance is the same, I will finally come in Pattaya again! If not, there are other of hot chicks in town to try. Worst case, maybe I can see if Fern the Nerd will join me for a blood test and concent to some bareback! Oh wait, they don't test for HSV. So tomorrow it will be Soi 6 in the afternoon, Burrito Thursday for dinner, then likely back to WS where I may start out at Tantra or follow BBs suggestion to get to Palace early.
Banana Boi
11-09-18, 09:08
But I really don't see me going back there. I guess the girls are there willingly so I won't take a moral position here. You may love it, and that is fine with me. But licking the pussy of a hooker who is working down in the dredges is indeed risky stuff! You should meet some of the girls on their first day. They are literally in shock. Almost like they were forced to be there. What annoys me are the Cheap Charlie's that go to Windmill. Guys who go muff diving and finger girls for free as the girls are on stage and not looking. Don't care if they do it if they are buying a girl a drink or tip them 100 baht but that's not what Windmill is about. It's about a bunch of cheap asses getting their kicks. On several occasions when I see a guy manhandling a girl I will buy her a drink just to p1ss the cheap Charlie off. I get really dirty looks from the guy and the girls love me for it. Just to p1ss off the guy makes the cost of the lady drink so worth it for me.
Personally I thought talent was poor on our Windmill visit. I think you had your eye on Kate (Line ID spelling but pronounced Katie) and the girl I think MP barfined, now with black hair and blonde streaks. MP's girl was clearly out of place in Windmill. No idea why she's working there she should be at Palace, Sensations, Skyfall, or Baccara.
hen likely back to WS where I may start out at Tantra or follow BBs suggestion to get to Palace early.Problem with starting at Palace early is you will see a limited number of girls and the models don't hit the stage until 9 pm I believe. MP can correct me since he knows Palace much better than I do.
Mr Enternational
11-09-18, 12:28
Fern was mature and really sweet, but not a spring chicken. She hooks as her mother had a horrible degenerative disease and her sister had died, leaving the bulk of the care to her and money was needed. So sad.
She was just as nice as ever, sharing that her mother died. I am sure that is a huge load off of her, but here she is, still hooking.LOL. Perfect example of why not to believe anything those broads tell you. So what is her new excuse for hooking since her mom has died?
Mr Enternational
11-09-18, 12:52
I am a few years older than you and as a 14 year survivor of prostate cancer have some physical issues too.Off topic, but I met a guy at a fuck house in Colombia that also made it through prostate cancer. He went through some kind of laser treatment. He said whatever you do, don't let them cut you or your sex life as you know it will be over. What is your take and experience?
Off topic, but I met a guy at a fuck house in Colombia that also made it through prostate cancer. He went through some kind of laser treatment. He said whatever you do, don't let them cut you or your sex life as you know it will be over. What is your take and experience?I have heard the same. As soon as the knife appears your sex life dissappears.
Chocha Monger
11-10-18, 00:25
I have heard the same. As soon as the knife appears your sex life dissappears.Yes. It is true! Once the surgeon snips out your prostate, he rips out your sex life and throws it in the biohazard waste bin along with your cancerous prostate. Your tool will no longer work as intended because it will be missing a key part. It will become nothing more than a piece of plumbing for wastewater disposal.
Problem with starting at Palace early is you will see a limited number of girls and the models don't hit the stage until 9 pm I believe. MP can correct me since he knows Palace much better than I do.I arrived at the Palace A-Go-Go at 9:10 PM on Friday. Girls were still coming in at that time. Talent was definitely above average. MP is probably correct; The average talent is probably the best in Pattaya.
It is a small bar, but it has a lot of girls. It was totally packed.
But there is no nudity! And since the majority of the customers are Asian, and since Asians are more likely to be chain smokers, the second hand smoke in that small bar made me nauseous.
I arrived at the Palace A-Go-Go at 9:10 PM on Friday. Girls were still coming in at that time. Talent was definitely above average. MP is probably correct; The average talent is probably the best in Pattaya.
It is a small bar, but it has a lot of girls. It was totally packed.
But there is no nudity! And since the majority of the customers are Asian, and since Asians are more likely to be chain smokers, the second hand smoke in that small bar made me nauseous.I got there at about 11 PM and got squeezed into a spot near the entrance. As you say, lots of smoking Chinese there, but a number or farangs as well. At least 30 dancers were there, most all of them slender and at least reasonably attractive. Many get topless, but no nudity as you say. I think a number had already been bar fined, including the ones I saw with Banana Boy on Monday.
Had visited Tantra earlier. It was in the process of becoming packed at 9:45 when I first arrived. They also have over 30 girls, most all slender and reasonably attractive, but I was not quite as impressed as I was Monday. Maybe that is because on Monday they were wearing Japanese school girl outfits, and Friday they were not. There was a mass exodus from the place an hour later. I was already preparing to leave, and I have no idea why so many people left at once. We all go to Palace?
My trip usually to Bangkok / Nana.
I park my bike at the station 40 baht, get a ticket to Ekaimai (spelling wrong?) 108 baht I tell the lady like to get off at Udon Suk (BTS stop) once off I walk up to the station get a ticket (47 baht) to Nana.
The buses leave every 20 minutes to Ekaimai, personal choice trip usually to stop is 2 hrs 15 minutes, BTS to Nana another 15 minutes.
Yes, I am usually fine with the bus and used it many times. And getting off the bus at Udom Suk bts station does cut out some unnecessary city traffic sitting in that bus just to reach the Ekkamai bts station instead. But the motorbike ride from a Walking Street area hotel to the Pattaya bus station (or worse, regular taxi or the two baht bus option) adds time and some money to your 2 hour and 15 minute Pattaya to Nana bts trip too, doesn't it? As well as waitng for the bus at Pattaya bus station.
I have never done it exactly from my Walking Street area hotel door to Nana bts in less than 3 hours before this last trip experiment where it came in at 2 hours and 5 minutes.
Crazy4Thai
11-10-18, 06:20
Off topic, but I met a guy at a fuck house in Colombia that also made it through prostate cancer. He went through some kind of laser treatment. He said whatever you do, don't let them cut you or your sex life as you know it will be over. What is your take and experience?14 years is a very long time for technological advances to be in place. As for me I had excellent insurance and went for the best at the time at Johns Hopkins who were leading the way in laparoscopic procedures. The strategy then was to retain the nerve network that encompasses the gland. That was a success and I have enough response with ED meds to participate. People today come out of surgery with little if any effect. First hand info. For anyone faced with this problem I recommend to research far beyond what you might think you need to. Find the best outcome. It is there.
Banana Boi
11-10-18, 07:42
For those of you who haven't been to Soi 6 for a month or so there are many new bars opening up or have changed their name / ownership. One of the new bars is having their grand opening tonight with free shots!
Day 4, Thursday.
I slept a little later today, and the jet lag is clearing, I hope. I don't want to wake up too early, but I don't want to sleep too late either. I am starting to get behind on my reports, so today I am getting serious about them, and after breakfast I started finishing up the first ones and updating the later ones. These reports can take hours, but it keeps me busy in my non-mongering hours and I like to keep of record of my exploits anyway. But finally at 4 PM, it is time to head to Soi 6.
You may recall from yesterday's report that Noi from the Foxy Bar last year, who I had a good report on as she actually gotten me off, recognized me and called me over yesterday. She is now at Lucky Love bar. I was busy and couldn't see her then, plus I wanted to look her up in my records to see if she was a good provider. I did and she was. I now want to go back and see if she still has that special magic.
Arriving at Soi 6, I first converted some dollars to bahts, then bee-lined to Lucky Love. I did not see Noi there, and when I asked about her was told she would be there later and to come back. So I left to walk around at look at some other bars and happened to see a spinner type with a beautiful face outside of Clansmen. She was an obviously mature woman, but that added to her beauty. As I walked toward her, I saw the face of a model (a mature model), but fully of beauty and grace. It was a face unique amongst the young bar girls. I thought how a woman like this could be here? Along with the maturity was a slightly expanded belly line, OK, but the rest of her was lovely and I wasted no time accepting her offer to go inside.
Her name was Noi as well, so I am now dealing with three Nois! Her English was not too bad. She told me she was 44! So hard to believe. And that she had 2 kids, ages 10 and 4! She was obviously no spring chicken, but I would have believed she was 34. I could see no wrinkles, stretch marks, no nothing to indicate she was 44, at least with her clothes on. But her face was beautiful, the kind of magazine covers. And with the age came a level of maturity, which she exhibited, so I was all too happy to bar fine her.
I was not unhappy when the clothes came off upstairs. Her breasts were small, half a handful, but barely sagging. Nothing else was sagging to any extent, with only an extra couple of pounds around the waist to distract, and that was hardly noticeable when she was lying down. Her hair was up and I wondered how sexy she would look with it long and down around her face.
I was fantasying a bit, and I have learned fantasies are usually better than the reality, and when she started in bed that was coming true. I was hoping for a slow start like with Woi, but she quickly proceeded to the BBBJ and then quickly on to the main event. The room we were in had its own shower and toilet, but still dumpy. It felt clammy, and her skin remained feeling clammy throughout. She did exert herself so there was some sweat, but compared to girls like Woi and Fern the Nerd with such warm, smooth, powdered skin, it detracted from the experience of touching her. So, the sex was rather average. She did what she needed to do, but it wasn't proving to be enough to get me off. But midway through she let hair loose and OMG she looked so sexy. Her face was just downright hot as she was lying beneath me. But by then it was too late to overcome the skin, lack of foreplay and the rushed BJ.
Despite my complaints, she still had this sense about her. By the end, her the room was drying out and her skin was far less clammy and was becoming touchable, and we spent the last few minutes lying close together. This is a woman I could see me taking out for LT and being that 'warm body' I sometimes crave. We had a good fit, and she has the body type I like, and that classical oriental face, so I can see me seeing her again.
It was starting to get a little dark so I was going to leave the area, but as I walked by Lucky Love I saw that their Noi was there. We sat down for drinks (I most always either have a Coke Light or club soda) and to talk a bit. She mentioned some things she remembered I had hold her in the past, including that I like petite women and that I had bar fined her friend at the same bar before her. She even showed me a picture of the girl. However that cannot be true. My records shows she was the first girl I saw on that visit and was the only one from that bar I was with. I may have said I prefer petite woman in general, as she is not petite (but quite well proportioned) but her claim I saw the friend first was not possible or anyone from that bar is impossible. The girl she showed me was hot and I probably would have seen her first! Memories get distorted and that is why I am keeping detailed records.
Her English was a little better and after a while I decided it was time to BF her and check out the magic. Upstairs, I was pleased that this bar had really good rooms with actually comfortable beds. The shower was in the room (no toilet though) with real sliding glass doors (though he one in this room was broken and couldn't slide). So, it looked nice and modern and eliminated most of the sleeze factor.
We undressed and she revealed her bolt-ONS and highly tattooed body. I don't remember the boob job. And she now had braces. Brand new braces. Yikes! Her body was firm and well proportioned (well, maybe not the boobs.) My records assigned her an age of 30. I guess, but I think she looks younger. I don't know if I guessed that age or that is what she told me however. Lying on the bed with her hair lying around her, she looked really hot (well, except for the tats which I don't think makes any woman hot, but that is my own opinion). She started off with some touching and did a quick, light BJ. Perhaps it was more licking that sucking due to her braces. She did take me in a few times and, at some point, I think she nicked me just a little. She was new to them and still learning. I was not upset at all when she stopped and we got down to screwing.
The sex, in multiple positions and with a fair amount of passion, was good and it can be said I finally had a nice, complete release. I can understand, of course, why I saw her 4 times back then. I think seeing her lying there with her long black hair tossed aside and those big breasts and her womanly body struck a cord within my soul and led to my wondrous orgam. I know I haven't given a lot of detail, but I can't remember!
I will see her a few more times, though I have no desire to LT her like with the other Noi. I admist that each time I see her I think she is not quite my type, but she strikes that cord and she has now been successful 4 times out of 5.
So I left her, then headed out for Burrito Thursday, then went back to my hotel to work on these reports. I am actually drowsy now and wanting to sleep, but it is too early. Just as I thought I had mostly gotten over the jet leg. Guess not. If I sleep now I will be up at the crack of dawn. I am contemplating going to WS, but I should probably set out on Soi 7/8 and try to enjoy some bar along here. There are actually a few attractive ladies here, but you have to watch out for the lady boys!
So I spent a little over an hour walking about. I visited Shooters, at the east end of Soi 7. It is a regular agogo type bar, complete with a small stage where 4 girls at a time dance. I just popped in and was quickly met by a lady obviously wanting to be bar fined, but she was not what I was looking for. Well, actually, I had no plans to BF anyone. I was tired and just wanted to get out to hopefully stay awake until at least midnight. She stuck with me and after she starting massaging my back I relented and bought her a LD. The volume level there was loud and her English poor so I had a great deal of difficulty understanding her, to include her name. I stayed for maybe half an hour, catching the scene. There was a girl or two there who were doable, but none that I felt I needed tonight. I paid my bill and moved on.
I didn't move far, being captured at the Rolling Live 4 bar just a tad bit down the street. She was younger and prettier, with the name of Som. She seemed fairly young and was from Issan. Her English was a little better, and bought her a LD, but we still had some issues. She was friendly but appeared to be either trying to pawn me off on another lady who was dancing out front, or to call her over for a LD. I declined, saying I only wanted to talk her. A bit later she repeated the request and I think she was indeed trying to pawn me off. I decided to leave at that point and cut my losses. She was a pretty girl, though.
I left and then walked around some more, ending back at the hotel a bit before midnight and soon thereafter going to bed. But to summarize the day, I was with Horny Noi at Horny Bar and then with Lucky Noi at Lucky Love. Their fees were both 1000. Lucky Noi got a 200 tip and Horny Noi 100.
Solid reports as always!
I am really looking forward to tearing it up with you, MP, and BB when I get there on the 20th.
Until then,
Lew.
LittleBigMan
11-10-18, 11:54
Yes, I am usually fine with the bus and used it many times. And getting off the bus at Udom Suk bts station does cut out some unnecessary city traffic sitting in that bus just to reach the Ekkamai bts station instead. But the motorbike ride from a Walking Street area hotel to the Pattaya bus station (or worse, regular taxi or the two baht bus option) adds time and some money to your 2 hour and 15 minute Pattaya to Nana bts trip too, doesn't it? As well as waitng for the bus at Pattaya bus station.
I have never done it exactly from my Walking Street area hotel door to Nana bts in less than 3 hours before this last trip experiment where it came in at 2 hours and 5 minutes.Very true I didn't add the time as you indicated. I cut much of the time because I'm able to take my own bike and park it there. I pretty much know the schedule and usually don't have to wait more than 15 minutes after I purchased of the ticket. Another tip if you are traveling alone and the bus is the ahead your schedule and always stand at the gate and let the lady know I'm alone if there is a seat available I'm right here. They do this all day long and most of the time I get put on the bus ahead instead of the assigned.
Solid reports as always!
I am really looking forward to tearing it up with you, MP, and BB when I get there on the 20th.
Until then,
Lew.Thanks. It will be awesome Lew!
I got there at about 11 PM and got squeezed into a spot near the entrance. As you say, lots of smoking Chinese there, but a number or farangs as well. At least 30 dancers were there, most all of them slender and at least reasonably attractive. Many get topless, but no nudity as you say. I think a number had already been bar fined, including the ones I saw with Banana Boy on Monday.At the Palace, I'm assuming the girls in the white shorts are the advertised models. Then you have the girls in the black bikinis. None of them were topless at 9 PM. I guess some of them went topless later on. Not as good as full nudity, but hey, better than nothing. That's why I like Pattaya. I like to have a cold beer and watch a whole stage of naked girls. The strip joints in Colombia sucks. And the girls in Angeles aren't naked.
Last night I went to Bacarra at 8:45. OK, but I wasn't impressed by the talent. There were a few cute girls, but many were average, or just slightly above average. Many girls were topless. At 9:30, I went to Sensations. Several girls were pretty cute. Numerous cute girls were leaving with their customers. IMO, it seems the talent level at Sensations is either a close second to Palace, or maybe equal (if I could see all the cute girls that left early). But Sensations suck in terms of dress. No nudity, not even topless, and the girls wear this granny type of bikini bottom.
Customers were mostly East Asian, with some Whites. A lot of smoking. Not a single Indian face. So racist!
- I did 2 bars in Soi 6, Horny bar and another one. The barfine / room charge went up to 400 baht. My guess is that most other bars will follow the price increase soon.
- Last year I saw 2 or 3 very cute girls on Soi 6 - girls that should be working at the Palace. This year, I didn't see seem any of that type. But many, many 6's. But this is from my limited observations.
- They're expanding the beach, maybe tripling the size. When it's done, the beach should be better than Jomtien.
Christian G
11-11-18, 00:52
- I did 2 bars in Soi 6, Horny bar and another one. The barfine / room charge went up to 400 baht. My guess is that most other bars should follow the price increase soon.
Room charge is 400 baht in all Nightwish bars group since 1st January 2018.
Mr Enternational
11-11-18, 01:08
- They're expanding the beach, maybe tripling the size. When it's done, the beach should be better than Jomtien.Yeah. I for one think the rats deserve it. They really outgrew that last configuration.
Banana Boi
11-11-18, 04:20
- Last year I saw 2 or 3 very cute girls on Soi 6 - girls that should be working at the Palace. This year, I didn't see seem any of that type. But many, many 6's. But this is from my limited observations.Pattaya talent is very inconsistent. Good one day bad the next. You need to walk through Soi 6 many times before you find a 'good' day. I usually bomb out on Soi 6 but there are the occasional days where even I think it's good.
At Palace there are either 2 or 3 sets of clothed girls and one set of topless models. The models are always topless. I believe the night you and FL Hawk were recently out was the night when the police came around. Bars are pre-warned of the police and their whereabouts on Walking Street as they do the rounds for publicity. if you were at a gogo bar when the police were nearby the girls would not have taken off their tops. An aside, the police just deemed no sex , drugs, or weapons to be found anywhere on Walking Street. Phew!
I can't emphasize enough for you to go to Tantra and even at least walk in and out of Infinity and Skyfall. Tantra has many models but the cute ones at Tantra are the ones who are not models. In fact, that seems to be the case in all gogo bars I go to in Pattaya and Bangkok. I hardly ever look at girls with fake tits and find very few appealing.
re Baccara girls are still arriving at 8:45 pm. The girls upstairs do not wear bra or panties but always have a small unbuttoned shirt and tiny skirt on. They are more the natural Thai look suited for Farang rather than Asians.
imo the better nights to go to gogo bars are Sunday to Wednesday. Thursdays start getting busy and on Friday or Saturday many good girls are already barfined for the weekend when their out of town sponsors or big customers arrive and have pre barfined the girls. Sundays and Mondays are usually try out nights at some of the busier bars too.
How is Pattaya looking this high season? Is it very crowded with Asian tourists hogging all the girls?
Day 5, Friday.
I went to bed too early and of course woke up too early. But it was ok since I got a couple days worth of reports finished and posted. It rained a little during the day but by 3 PM it was done for the rest of day. The cloudy weather with just a little rain has cooled things down from what it was when I arrived, and that has been wonderful.
I headed to Soi 6 at 3:30 PM or so. I have already posted I discovered a 3/8 inch diameter dark red spot with a nick in the center on the top of my Johnson upon using the restroom this morning. I think this happened with Lucky Love Noi as she was the one with the braces. She had been careful and only went down for a very brief period of time, but it only takes a second to snag some skin. I don't want to falsely accuse, and one without steel in their mouth could have done it with their teeth, but looks more like a nick than a tooth scrape. I am treating the wound with a triple antibiotic ointment and am hoping the red clears out within a few days.
But I am here to monger, not care for a wound, so while I will take it easy, I will not stop. Of course, if it freaks the ladies out, I may have no choice in the matter. In order to see if they will, I will need to take a jaunt to So1 6 this afternoon to see.
Arriving on Soi 6 and walking down the street, I first saw a cutie at Hero Bar. She was probably early 20's with a great face, hair, legs and figure. She smiled and walked me inside. I ordered my drink and when she stuck around, I offered her a LD. Her name was Mona and she had a great smile. She is an Issan girl who, upon close questioning, appears to have really only been in Pattata for 6 weeks, thus she is still fresh I assume. We actually had a decent conversation going. I asked how she learned English and she said it was mainly from listening to the other girls there. Well, hmmmm, she knew more than I think she could have learned in 6 weeks from simply listening, but whatever. But then she seemed to start getting bored and my poor social skills were becoming apparent. She walked away for a bit then came back. I struggled to find an interesting subject besides the rain, then she wanders away again and I am thinking I may need to cut my losses and leave. She comes back but I have little to say and she permanently walks off to look over the street for more suitable customers I guess. I pay the bill and as I walk by her I politely say goodbye. I wondered if she thought I had no interest in her as she had a cool look in her eyes, but oh well.
Walking by the Horny Bar I saw a pretty lady. She appears to be in her early 30's, but she is pretty, slender and nice legs. I say Hi and get her name, Jen, but I first wanted to see Lucky Love Noi and tell her about my injury so, hopefully, she will refrain from BJ's a while longer. I tell Jen I will be back shortly.
But I quickly got accosted again by Pat at Nature Bar, the spinner with the distracting buck teeth and a body scare. She wants me to buy her a drink. I just say I have some other things to do and leave her. I walk on down to Lucky Love and Noi is there. I try to explain my injury but I am not sure if she understands, and still wants me to BF her again. I say I can't right then and head back to Jin.
This is just a tad awkward now as Pat sees me goes in to see Jen. Oh well. After spending a minute talking with Jen I no longer care, nor should I have ever cared. Never be apologetic when things just don't click with someone who really just wants your money. They are only sad because you are giving your money to someone else instead of them. But anyway, Jen is a classy, more mature lady and outside matters are forgotten. She clearly is after me and I get the typical little pinches on my nipples and Johnson, but I feel compelled to tell her about my injured Johnson.
I told her exactly what happened and she was asked reasonable questions to which I answered honestly. I said I had a dark red spot probably caused by the braces by another woman yesterday and that it may look ugly but there was no infection and I was "clean". I added that I would not be expecting a bareback anything. She was ok with it. Then, since she was so easy to talk to, I added my little problem about coming in condoms, so that she not be concerned and, as often happens, they start manhandling your Johnson with vigorous hand action that would make my wound worse. She understood so upstairs we went.
Jen did have a pretty face, nice legs and I discovered in the shower her figure was not bad at all. She did have an extra inch or two in the waist, but it was not distracting. I was most surprised that she had a nice set of boobs. A large "be" at least, not yet droopy, but soft and quite real. She complained about them being too large. I told her she was crazy. But in bed, she talked me into a BBBJ. She said she would be careful and would go slow, said she claimed to have had a man who claimed he could not come orally and she surprised him by getting him off. I said go for it. She gave a good effort and she was able to deep throat me. But she kind of got me with her teeth once so I called it off. No damage done, but I was trying to relax and enjoy it and let things happen, but after that I could not relax! Just what I need is big second red spot!
We now started into some foreplay, lying next to each other and do some kissing. I played with her vag and she very lightly stroked my Johnson. I was getting quite hard, but wondered if my strange ejaculation the previous day would further prevent me from coming today. Well, no, it didn't! I doubt I have been liberated by any means, but I had a full bore, pleasurable release with her! No apparent damage to my Johnson was done, but I decided then that I would try to resist any more sexual activities for the rest of the day. With a shower and a hug I said goodbye to Jen.
As I had been otherwise inactive for the day, I decided to exit Soi 6 to the east, go north for a while, and walk back down Beach Road back towards my hotel. Well, walking past Bunny Bar, a lady come out, grabs hold of me and asks why I am ignoring her. Huh? She says she is Tata and we had boom boom last spring. Huh? I had recently gone through my records and I remembered a Dada from another bar, but only a Bell or someone from Bunny Bar. I do think on occasion these girls will make that claim just to get you to buy them a drink of something, which I did, but this girl spoke with an accent that was more Russian than Thai! She was loud and animated (and a real girl). Her mother was there, who was 57. I think I look as many years younger than her as I actually am older than her! I got a sob story about the grandmother, but no requests from me for anything other than a drink for mom, and would I please BF Tata. No BF. I wanted to check my records to see for sure if I saw a a Tata from Bunny (and I had not). I do not wish to BF her – she is too loud for me and while she is slender and a bit tall, she is more suited for one interested in a dominatrix. But now next time I hit Soi 6 I will have to face Tata at the entrance, then Pat in the middle. Think I need to man up and tell them I am not interested?
So, ok, I left Soi 6, going the long way back to my hotel to get some more exercise. I am getting hungry, but I manage to walk all the way from north of Soi 6 to WS, ending up at the New Yorker to take advantage of their 80 baht pizza special. It was too much for me but I stuffed it down anyway. I need to lose 10 or 20 pounds and have managed to eat just two meals a day. It is the snacking that really leads to disaster. I did big a big bag of Oreo's Halloween cookies to give to my Thai GF's nephews, but she recently told me not to bring them anything large as she was would not have room in her bag, so I am eating them myself! Not good, but I am limiting myself to just a few of them per day. And attempting to walk the calories off.
After dinner, I walked up and down the street a few times. Lots of Chinese and Indian tourists, but a fair number of falangs too. Tantra was full of reasonably attractive, slender Thai ladies. About 16 dance on stage at a time, and there appears to be 2, maybe 3, sets of dancers. One group will go topless, though I may be getting some things mixed up with another club. I was not as impressed with the selection today as I was Monday with Banana Boy, and I did not see the girl I had most favored. I spent about an hour there and, when I was getting ready to leave, a bunch of guys started leaving too. Not sure why.
I headed to Palace, and it was fairly well packed. I was squeezed into a spot near the entrance, so I could not see the girls at the opposite end very well. I had a favorite girl I selected Monday, but I did not see her. I don't think Banana Boy's favorite was there either. I stayed for maybe 45 minutes.
Leaving there, I went to Red Car. But as I originally said, I was not really looking to bar fine anyone. I wanted to rest and give my Johnson some time to heal. I don't think I have to abstain for a week, but I need to keep him clean and not subject him to manual abuse at the least. I have been applying a triple antibiotic ointment, which contains the bacitracin that was suggested to me. It is not looking any worse and least, and the actual nick seems to be healing. The main thing now is for the bruising to clear.
Red Car at midnight was just starting to get going. Most of the seats were filled and there were some younger people in there. Fern the nerd was in her usual spot. She was happy to see me, but I hugged her and said I was leaving after using the bathroom.
Banana Boy is apparently stuck at home or something, but maybe tomorrow we will get out. And in a few more days, I think, MonkeyPaw will be in town, then in 1-1/2 weeks, a few days before I depart, Lew will be here. It should be epic! I got to have my Johnson back in full business by then!
Oh, I am not done. I took the bus back to Soi 7 and took a peak into the clubs near the entrance, but quickly left to come to my hotel room. I did some writing until about 1:30 AM before succumbing to sleep. That is better than yesterday, though I still woke up at 6:30. Sigh.
Anyway, to summarize, I had Jen at Horny Bar for 1000 plus a 200 tip. (I am not always reporting the BF as I don't always check my bill to see. Assume 300 to 400 baht- a 100 baht difference is essentially $3, which is negligible IMNO.) I expect tomorrow will be fairly quiet as well as I heal. Sorry guys.
It should be epic! I got to have my Johnson back in full business by then!
I understand but looked up "Johnson" anyway since in my home no one uses that word. I was surprised to read it was "Vulgar American slang". Does that mean, its no more polite than "dick" or "cock"? It sounds like a very clean word since Johnson is brand of soap and shampoos etc.
I understand but looked up "Johnson" anyway since in my home no one uses that word. I was surprised to read it was "Vulgar American slang". Does that mean, its no more polite than "dick" or "cock"? It sounds like a very clean word since Johnson is brand of soap and shampoos etc.Johnson is not a polite word in the US. It is at the same level of vulgarity as dick or cock. In the past I heard people from Chicago use the word cock to mean the same as a woman's pussy. I found that very confusing as a cock is always used to describe a man's private parts. I have not heard cock used as a woman's pussy in many years.
Johnson is not a polite word in the US. It is at the same level of vulgarity as dick or cock. In the past I heard people from Chicago use the word cock to mean the same as a woman's pussy. I found that very confusing as a cock is always used to describe a man's private parts. I have not heard cock used as a woman's pussy in many years.Yet the very old fashioned "John Thomas" does not seem to be so vulgar, or I just did not know. "Prick" seems to be the most vulgar commonly used word in my parts, moreso than dick or cock.
"hum" (rising tone) is a confusing Thai word for me. The dictionary seems to indicates it means "eggs", "balls", "testes". Yet people colloquially seem to use it to mean cock in many cases.
Issan people seem also likely to use the most vulgar term "Khuay" for cock though, and "hee" for pussy, where "jim" and "hoi" are somewhat more polite.
I normally don't dare use the words "khuay" and "hee" unless know the Thai person well, like my GF.
Johnson is not a polite word in the US. It is at the same level of vulgarity as dick or cock. In the past I heard people from Chicago use the word cock to mean the same as a woman's pussy. I found that very confusing as a cock is always used to describe a man's private parts. I have not heard cock used as a woman's pussy in many years.I remember meeting a Scottish boy at age 13 at school whose English accent was very difficult to follow. Dick was "Willy" I guess in his jargon, but I could not quite decipher if a "fanny" (sounded like funnae) was a "pussy" or a Backside or could be used for either, at the time. Just read now in Urban Dictionary, that apparently it is used for "posterior" only in the USA really, and Britain and other parts use it to mean "Pussy". Fortunately this confusing term seems to well past its due by date. I would like to see "lucked out" withdrawn as well, since it means fortunate to avoid something in the USA (as I understand it) but merely means "out of luck" elsewhere (almost opposite meaning unless interpreted as ironical reverse).
Mr Enternational
11-11-18, 16:18
I normally don't dare use the words "khuay" and "hee" unless know the Thai person well, like my GF.My favorite thing to say in Thai is hee yai yai. When I go around to bars and shit I like to tell them I am looking for that hee yai yai. They get a kick out of that and always point out one of their coworkers. I also ask the girls if they like khuay yai.
Banana Boi
11-11-18, 20:06
What do all these posts have to do with Pattaya?
Anyone know of hotels that let you use their pool for a small fee?
Mr Enternational
11-11-18, 20:53
Anyone know of hotels that let you use their pool for a small fee?There is a public pool on 3rd Road. I think it is like 50 baht. There is also a pool at the top of Mikes Shopping. Or just walk into a condo and use their pool. I go to use the one at my buddy's condo all the time and nobody ever says anything.
Banana Boi
11-11-18, 21:17
Anyone know of hotels that let you use their pool for a small fee?There's a Pattaya hotels thread for this inquiry.
Christian G
11-11-18, 23:01
Anyone know of hotels that let you use their pool for a small fee?Siam at Siam have a roof top small swimming pool (there is also a second swmming pool a floor below) with big and very comfortable sunbeds, great seaview. Some nice girls chill there sometimes, good house music, no entry fee but I think you have to spend around 200 or 300 baht at their bar (free towel included).
Pattaya Park in Jomtien I think is 100 baht entry fee.
There is also a pool at the top of Mikes Shopping. Has it been reopened? Because it was closed about a year ago for restructuring.
There is a public pool on 3rd Road. I think it is like 50 baht. There is also a pool at the top of Mikes Shopping.Mikes pool has been closed for ages and doesn't look like it will ever reopen. When it comes to pools big enough for serious swimming the choice is not that great in Pattaya. Some swimming pools stay shaded by buildings most of the day and never get warm. One budget hotel I like for its swimming pool is Sabai Lodge.
I can't emphasize enough for you to go to Tantra and even at least walk in and out of Infinity and Skyfall. Tantra has many models but the cute ones at Tantra are the ones who are not models. Thanks for the tips.
I arrived at Tantra at 8:30 PM on Sunday. Talent was very good. Bar is slightly smaller than the Palace; less girls than Palace. IMO, overall talent is similar to Palace. Easy to tell who the models were; they had "model" written on their number tag. The models were only topless. I was going to talk to number 320; she had a cute face. But as soon as she got off stage, she was grabbed by this guy who gave her multiple lady drinks.
I arrived at Palace at 9 PM. Talent was very good. So far from my limited observations, Palace and Tantra had the best overall talent. The models wore the bikinis and they were topless. The regular girls wore the shorts. Barfine was 1500 for regular and 2000 for the models. Why the fuck do they always place me next to a chain smoking Asian. Then they tell me to move over in order to squeeze in more people, forcing me to go cheek to cheek. Palace gets totally packed.
I arrived at Infinity at 10:30. Bar was somewhat empty. Talent was average.
I arrived at Skyfall at 11. Talent was above average, but not as good as Palace and Tantra. Since I arrived late, maybe all the cute ones were already barfined. Mamasam told me that the barfine was 1500 and 2000. Plus 4000 for short time and 6000 for long time.
Man! When did all the prices go up for the cute girls. It will be really expensive to pick up 2 or 3. I remember when it was 1000 baht barfine for the "Showgirls". I haven't pick up from Walking Street Go Go's in a few years. Mainly because the cute girls usually say "no". No to CIM, no to lesbian shows, no to rimming.
Palace and Tantra are somewhat depressing. Most of the girls aren't smiling; they don't look at you; they don't seem to be having fun. I like other bars (with average girls) where they smile and greet you, and where they want you to fondle them for lady drinks. But the good thing is that the girls at Palace / Tantra don't push for lady drinks; you have to call them over.
imo the better nights to go to gogo bars are Sunday to Wednesday. Thursdays start getting busy and on Friday or Saturday many good girls are already barfined for the weekend when their out of town sponsors or big customers arrive and have pre barfined the girls. Sundays and Mondays are usually try out nights at some of the busier bars too.I'm arriving on a Friday. Say I find myself a serious stunner. How much do you think to barfine for the weekend? Fri-sun 2 nights?
I arrived at Palace at 9 PM. Talent was very good. So far from my limited observations, Palace and Tantra had the best overall talent. The models wore the bikinis and they were topless. The regular girls wore the shorts. Barfine was 1500 for regular and 2000 for the models. Why the fuck do they always place me next to a chain smoking Asian. Then they tell me to move over in order to squeeze in more people, forcing me to go cheek to cheek. Palace gets totally packed.
I arrived at Skyfall at 11. Talent was above average, but not as good as Palace and Tantra. Since I arrived late, maybe all the cute ones were already barfined. Mamasam told me that the barfine was 1500 and 2000. Plus 4000 for short time and 6000 for long time.
Palace and Tantra are somewhat depressing. Most of the girls aren't smiling; they don't look at you; they don't seem to be having fun. I like other bars (with average girls) where they smile and greet you, and where they want you to fondle them for lady drinks. But the good thing is that the girls at Palace / Tantra don't push for lady drinks; you have to call them over.-Are people allowed to smoke inside Palace? I like the occasional smoke myself, but not chain smoking through the night.
-skyfall's 4000/6000 is that only skyfall that has those fixed prices? What have you seen from places like palace?
-I doubt many of the girls are actually having fun dancing half naked on a stage in front of a bunch of ugly ass dudes LOL. And the pretty ones usually don't have to fake smile to get customers.
Johnson is not a polite word in the US. It is at the same level of vulgarity as dick or cock. Is there a polite word for penis?
I heard the term Johnson being used by some retired army pilots I hang out with, and I found it to be hilarious. That is how I intended it to be used here.
-Are people allowed to smoke inside Palace? I like the occasional smoke myself, but not chain smoking through the night.
-skyfall's 4000/6000 is that only skyfall that has those fixed prices? What have you seen from places like palace?Non smoking law is not enforced at the Palace, nor at any of the other Go Go bars I've been to this trip. East Asians gravitate to the bars with cute girls; many East Asians are chain smokers.
Mamasan at Skyfall told me those are the prices for the tip; note that you also have to pay the barfine. Not sure if that was the upper end. Not sure if you can negotiate with the girl, especially the cute ones. Anyone has the answer?
At the Palace when a customer was leaving with a girl, she told the guy that you have to give XX, and I thought she held up 3 fingers. But I wasn't sure about the thumb. So it's either 3 or 4 tip for short time. Anyone has the answer?
Why the fuck do they always place me next to a chain smoking Asian. I was complaining last night to Banana Boy about that same thing. One after another after another after another. Of course, plenty of falangs chain smoke too.
This is why I tend to end up at Red Car. No smoking. And I am seeing more younger women are going there. Last night I took home a girl in her mid-20's. Last April I took home a 25 year old. And how did I know the one last night was young? We and 2 of her girl friends left RC to go to Lucifer's, and all three got their ID's out as we approached the disco for an age check.
The only downside is that the youngins just aren't as talanteted as their mothers.
Anyone know of hotels that let you use their pool for a small fee?The PPlus hotel on Soi Xzyte charges 100 baht for the day to use their pool (open 7 am to 7 pm). Also, you can use the gym and pool there for a monthly rate of 1500 baht.
Is there a polite word for penis? I heard the term Johnson being used by some retired army pilots I hang out with, and I found it to be hilarious. That is how I intended it to be used here.Now that you now what Johnson refers to. I always got a kick when the play by play announcer called out American Basketball player "Magic Johnson." He had / has one, banging 300 -500 chicks per year. So much fuckin, he got HIV in '91. He's still alive and kickin, and that shit still in him.
Banana Boi
11-12-18, 09:38
Non smoking law is not enforced at the Palace, nor at any of the other Go Go bars I've been to this trip. East Asians gravitate to the bars with cute girls; many East Asians are chain smokers.
Mamasan at Skyfall told me those are the prices for the tip; note that you also have to pay the barfine. Not sure if that was the upper end. Not sure if you can negotiate with the girl, especially the cute ones. Anyone has the answer?
At the Palace when a customer was leaving with a girl, she told the guy that you have to give XX, and I thought she held up 3 fingers. But I wasn't sure about the thumb. So it's either 3 or 4 tip for short time. Anyone has the answer?3 k ST 5 k LT is standard. At some bars you can negotiate for less, especially if the girl is older or not a top girl.
I don't believe the smoking law is banning smoking from bars. Someone can correct me but I believe it's just to ban smoking from within 5 metres from any door. What this would technically mean since it is so narrow is that smoking would be prohibited from all of Walking Street itself unless you are inside a bar. It would also prohibit smoking on any sidewalk or side soi. I pray the police due their job and collect side money from all smokers I can't stand smokers.
I was complaining last night to Banana Boy about that same thing. One after another after another after another. Of course, plenty of falangs chain smoke too.It hasn't even been that bad the past few days we have gone out. I don't mind so much if guys smoke and actually smoke since that is expected in a Thai gogo bar but I do get very annoyed at guys who leave their cigarettes burning in an ashtray for minutes without smoking it. I have "accidentally" spilled my drink on some of those cigarettes.
I'm arriving on a Friday. Say I find myself a serious stunner. How much do you think to barfine for the weekend? Fri-sun 2 nights?BF is according to each bar and you will have to pay for each night she is on shift. If you are lucky she is not working the next 2 night so you can make arrangements with the girl the next night, skipping the BF. However, I have to ask why would you stay with the same girl if you are on a short trip.
FYI for those who haven't heard e-cigarettes and vaping will soon be legal in Thailand. Already see guys lighting up.
I arrived at Tantra at 8:30 PM on Sunday. Talent was very good. Bar is slightly smaller than the Palace; less girls than Palace. IMO, overall talent is similar to Palace. Easy to tell who the models were; they had "model" written on their number tag. The models were only topless. I was going to talk to number 320; she had a cute face. But as soon as she got off stage, she was grabbed by this guy who gave her multiple lady drinks.
I arrived at Infinity at 10:30. Bar was somewhat empty. Talent was average.
I arrived at Skyfall at 11. Talent was above average, but not as good as Palace and Tantra. Since I arrived late, maybe all the cute ones were already barfined. Mamasam told me that the barfine was 1500 and 2000. Plus 4000 for short time and 6000 for long time.Guys, please DO NOT support Skyfall and their inflated prices That bar is a complete tourist trap. FL mentioned to me last night we'd head to Skyfall. I pretended I didn't hear him! No tourist traps like Sapphire and Skyfall for this guy. I don't buy 6 drinks per hour and get next to no action.
We were at Tantra last night arriving a 9:30 or so. It was one of the worst lineups I have ever seen there. Place was almost empty. I kind of like #320 as well but I find her jaw to be a bit square. She also doesn't seem like much fun. Seen her sitting with other guys and no hands on fun at all.
We were at Infinity around the same time last night (Sunday). Pretty dead and not many girls working. Try again later in the week and a bit earlier if you are still in town. Care to meet up with the rest of us, MP, FL Hawk, and Lew Ashby, and I believe Phazze?
Non smoking law is not enforced at the Palace, nor at any of the other Go Go bars I've been to this trip. East Asians gravitate to the bars with cute girls; many East Asians are chain smokers.
Mamasan at Skyfall told me those are the prices for the tip; note that you also have to pay the barfine. Not sure if that was the upper end. Not sure if you can negotiate with the girl, especially the cute ones. Anyone has the answer?
At the Palace when a customer was leaving with a girl, she told the guy that you have to give XX, and I thought she held up 3 fingers. But I wasn't sure about the thumb. So it's either 3 or 4 tip for short time. Anyone has the answer?No surprises about where the asian mongers flock to. Surprised about the smoking indoors though.
Did the girl make the customer pay up front?? Is that common practice at Palace? I'm more used to paying the girl after the deed is done.
3 k ST 5 k LT is standard. At some bars you can negotiate for less, especially if the girl is older or not a top girl.
We were at Tantra last night arriving a 9:30 or so. It was one of the worst lineups I have ever seen there. Place was almost empty. I kind of like #320 as well but I find her jaw to be a bit square. She also doesn't seem like much fun. Seen her sitting with other guys and no hands on fun at all.
I've gotten lots of LT for 3 k, or 3. 5 k or 4 k, is 5 k the standard now? I thought that was a rate for near top or top girls. Sounds like the quality of girls in Pattaya is down a bit?
Banana Boi
11-12-18, 10:15
I've gotten lots of LT for 3 k, or 3. 5 k or 4 k, is 5 k the standard now? I thought that was a rate for near top or top girls. Sounds like the quality of girls in Pattaya is down a bit?Which gogo bars are you still getting 3 k LT? Certainly not places like Infinity, Palace, What's Up and some of the other reputed top gogo bars. If you are and they are the top girls in the bar my hats off to you. Maybe Sapphire so Sapphire is always 'up to you'.
Talent is far from being down at Pattaya gogo bars. Last night was just a very very off night. One of the worst I have ever seen except Palace. Walked in and out of Happy. Sensations had no one new for me and nice. Beach Club was empty. I had a great time at Infinity watching FL Hawk in action with his harem.
Which gogo bars are you still getting 3 k LT? Certainly not places like Infinity, Palace, What's Up and some of the other reputed top gogo bars. Maybe Sapphire so Sapphire is always 'up to you'.
Talent is far from being down at Pattaya gogo bars. Last night was just a very very off night. One of the worst I have ever seen except Palace. Walked in and out of Happy. Sensations had no one new for me and nice. Beach Club was empty. I had a great time at Infinity watching FL Hawk in action with his harem.From memory, Fahrenheit and Peppermint. They were not "top" girls, but genuinely attractive early 20's. Ah, also windmill and its sister club, might have been 3.5k, I don't lose sleep over 500 baht.
Banana Boi
11-12-18, 10:28
From memory, Fahrenheit and Peppermint..Cool. Thanks for the info.
Did the girl make the customer pay up front?? Is that common practice at Palace? I'm more used to paying the girl after the deed is done.If you are not a known customer to the bar or if the girl doesn't know you some bars have implemented the pay up front rule. Could also be because the bar is taking a cut of the money or knowing if the girl gets only ST money that she needs to be back in the bar within a couple / few hours. I don't approve of the latter since that is too much control over the girls. I do approve it being done to protect the girls from Cheap Charlie's who short change the girl or guys who think they are special that they don't have to pay girls or pay them very very little. Hate having to deal with the drama after a gogo girl gets short changed.
Did the girl make the customer pay up front?? Is that common practice at Palace? I'm more used to paying the girl after the deed is done.Standard MO at the Palace from what I saw. The mamasan was just reminding the customer how much to tip after the deed.
I do approve it being done to protect the girls from Cheap Charlie's who short change the girl or guys who think they are special that they don't have to pay girls or pay them very very little.It's probably done because some idiots listen to some of the morons on this and other boards who say to just pay the girl the low end price, and that she will respect you more for it, since she talks shit about the guys that pay the full high end price. What fuckin morons.
That should only be done on very specific situations, not if you are a tourist in a Go-go bar. A lot of times, the mamasan will remind me the tip amount the girl requires. But I always negotiate the required tip with the girl; I can't stand drama.
BF is according to each bar and you will have to pay for each night she is on shift. If you are lucky she is not working the next 2 night so you can make arrangements with the girl the next night, skipping the BF. However, I have to ask why would you stay with the same girl if you are on a short trip.
We were at Infinity around the same time last night (Sunday). Pretty dead and not many girls working. Try again later in the week and a bit earlier if you are still in town. Care to meet up with the rest of us, MP, FL Hawk, and Lew Ashby, and I believe Phazze?I'm going to be there from 11/16-11/23, 7 nights.
I don't mind spending 2 nights in a row with the same girl if she's hot & good in bed.
In addition to girls, I'm in need of some serious simple r&r.
Cool. Thanks for the info.
If you are not a known customer to the bar or if the girl doesn't know you some bars have implemented the pay up front rule. Could also be because the bar is taking a cut of the money or knowing if the girl gets only ST money that she needs to be back in the bar within a couple / few hours. I don't approve of the latter since that is too much control over the girls. I do approve it being done to protect the girls from Cheap Charlie's who short change the girl or guys who think they are special that they don't have to pay girls or pay them very very little. Hate having to deal with the drama after a gogo girl gets short changed.
I wouldn't have a problem with paying girls up front if there wasn't also the risk of girls slacking because they know they've already been paid.
Totally get your point though. Although I'd never short a girl even if she sucked. Just no tip.
Standard MO at the Palace from what I saw. The mamasan was just reminding the customer how much to tip after the deed.
reminder would imply there be a set/base rate for ST/LT yea?
Was in Pattaya for vacation couple of weeks and did my research in here so thank you forum contributors! I'm a beach road regular for sex but this was my third time in Pattaya so was looking for something more. Was looking to party and create memories so went to the hottest club recommended by everyone, Kink. It was amazing guys, was with my bud on the 2nd floor and girls were topless, shows were being put on, pussy was being licked and more. Even I got in on the action, got two girls two drinks who alternated between sucking my dick and kissing me it was just bliss. This was more "fun and wild" than erotic as I didn't feel like having sex (again) for the day. Just a wild story for the grandkids: the.
My whole hearted recommendation for the club and the owner who looked at me with a funny expression while the deed was going down and gave me a thumbs up. You sir are a legend.
P.S. - Local Thais use the term "chicken farm" for walking street, dunno why I think I had to mention this.
Banana Boi
11-12-18, 15:55
There was a youngish (22?) Thin, pretty face, naturally busty girl named Preaw who worked at Mandarin earlier this year. I didn't think her tits were real since they were too large for a girl so thin but all the girls I knew there said they were real. She was one of the topless models. One of the prettiest I have seen on Walking Street. Now that Mandarin has changed ownership and it's basically the old Nui 2 Runway girls I have no idea where to find Preaw other than asking a friend of mine who will get p1ssed that I am looking for another girl other than herself. I didn't really know Preaw other than buying her 1 single drink one night and she was very friendly to say the least. Couldn't barfine her that night. Any help in finding her would would be great.
Banana Boi
11-12-18, 18:26
Last night on Walking Street.
Franciscass
11-13-18, 02:29
Last night on Walking Street.No judgment intended to those who find their enjoyment in Pattaya and I understand this can happen anywhere but this seems somehow to sum up why I avoid this underbelly of Thailand's P4P world. If I venture in that direction I usually stay in Jomtien where it's less crowded less expensive and where when you are familiar with the layout there are enough choices for good food and sex to keep you busy for however long you stay. Its why a lot of retirees choose to live there.
I have no idea where to find Preaw other than asking a friend of mine who will get p1ssed that I am looking for another girl other than herself.Tell her your friend is in town and he is looking for a girl like Preaw. Explain that you let him get accosted by three girls the other nights and you feel guilty about laughing at him, and finding him Preaw would make things right again. Haha.
Last night on Walking Street.LOL. Gross.
Day 6 - Saturday.
I woke up at 6:30 AM after going to bed at 1:30 AM. I am slowly entering a sleep-deprived mode. I did more writing and am now mostly up to date with my postings. (Edit: That didn't last long as it is now Tuesday as I am finally completing the edit of this day's report!
Anyway, Saturday was a day of celibacy. I certainly had opportunities, but I resisted and as I am writing the first draft of this report on the Sunday morning, the nick on my Johnson is indeed starting to get better. There is still obvious redness, but it is fading and I expect it will be mostly gone in a few more days, but I think I can safely resume protected sexual activity after another day.
So why did I return to Soi today when I intended to be celibate? Why not? I know a few girls there now and it is fun to simply sit with them and their friends to look and observe. You have to admit that is better than staying at the hotel to take a nap! We don't HAVE to have sex with them to have fun, as long as we understand they are working and we need to compensate them, or at least let them work unhindered and without distraction from us.
I walked up BR for the exercise, probably arriving around 4:40 PM. I first went to Lucky Noi. She was happy to see me (or rather the potential for money). We sat down and I bought her a drink, and she asked me how I was. Yesterday I had told her about the wound but I thought she didn't understand. I guess she did. I told her it was doing well but I would not be boom booming today in order to let it heal completely. She turned a lad bit cooler at the news, but she stuck with me through two LDs, thought she was not unhappy when I announced I was going to continue my walking up and down the Soi. I felt I had used up enough of her time. I said I would stop by and say goodbye when I left the area. She gave a fake smile and I gave her a quick hug, then I headed east.
I then was going to see Jen at Horny Bar, but Pat from Nature Bar, which was across from Horny bar, saw me and grabbed me. She feigned being upset that yesterday I had told her I would stop by and instead I went in to the Horny Bar and never came to see her. She pulled my glasses out of my pocket and ran to her bar. I followed her and properly punished her action by buying her a drink and sitting with her. Sigh. She got affectionate in trying to get me to BF her, but I told her my plight and that there would no boom booming. She accepted it without appearing to be upset, but I really will have to man up to her as I don't want to BF her.
It was around 6 PM and I decided to walk back to look at the Play Pen bar that was having its grand opening before seeing Horny Noi. I guess the bar has a falang owner, as a white lady with whom Engish is not their native language greeted me. But I have no idea who owns it nor of their nationality. The bar itself looked fresh and new, but the girls out front were nothing special, and the food they were offering was next to nothing so I declined. This bar will need some hotter women I think to survive. I spent maybe 30 seconds there then left to go back the Noi at Horny Bar.
Noi was also happy to see me and we talked for a while. She certainly wanted me to BF her, and she was looking very nice, but I stuck to my guns and left her with a hug. She was not pushy at all but since she had successfully serviced me the day before, I don't think understood why today I was wanted to be celibate. But she understood and remained non-pushy and simply happy for me to be there.
But truth be told, if I found a hot girl on my walkthrough, I would be tempted and would have broken down. As long as I used a condom for the BJ part I would likely be fine. Well, I found Mia a Tiki Bar. (Well, I thought she said Tiki Bar. I didn't check either when entering or when leaving. But I later could not find the place.) She had a cute face, but I reacted too soon and realized she was a bit overweight, so she was not the hot girl I was willing to suddenly revoke my celibacy decision. She seems to be fresh to Pattaya and is in her early 20's. Her English is quite poor at this stage and I bailed by saying I needed to leave. I may still BF her as part of my experiments into different body styles and newness to the sex scene (except that I can't find the bar) and experience levels. But, we will have to wait and see (and to see if I can or want to find her).
It was dark and time to leave the area and eat. I walked back to Soi 8 to eat at Subway, then went to my hotel to finish up Friday's report. I headed to WS at about 9 PM and decided to check out a couple of clubs. I first went to Sensations at about 9:30. They had a good line up of about 20 girls on two stages at a time, with probably 2 sets. It was about 80% Chinese, and they were having a good time. Lots of LDs being bought. There were plenty of pretty, slender girls but not quite up to the level of Palace. There were a few chubbies, but I guess some dudes like chubbies.
Next I went to Bliss. I guess there were one of to doables and the bar was not busy, so it would not be unreasonable to go take a look to see if the one or two girls meet your standards. Better there, where the air is not choking with smoke and you can actually sit back without being squeezed by hords of folks.
Sugarbaby was next. Their girls dance topless on and naked in shows. I once found a super hot woman here two years ago, but this time I didn't see anyone special, at least for me. One girl, who looked to be out of it, sat down next to me and immediately asked me for a drink. I said no, as I was about to leave. She gave this hollow look and asked again, like how could I not get her drink even if I was going to leave! I got out of there.
I check out the discos next. At midnight I-Bar and Insomnia were reaching their stride. Marine bar was dead, and Red Card was just getting going. I decided to stay there and managed to get my own table with two seats. I was looking to talk to this older lady who had huge boobs but otherwise seemed relatively sophisticated, but before I did her friend showed up and she seemed to lose her desire to be picked up. Then a girl comes over and asks if she can sit in my spare seat and I say yes. She is a bit chubby, but she was anxious to talk to me. She said she just moved to Pattayta and has a job, but she made clear she was ready to get picked up. I had a sure thing here, and she was nice, relatively young and had a pretty smile and was probably a really sweet woman, but I just couldn't bring myself to ask her home. I eventually told her I needed to leave, and I did.
I came back to Soi 7 and looked into the clubs there near Second Road, but passed. I walked down to BR and saw opportunities for FL and bar girls, but none were good enough. I came back to my hotel, showered and washed my hair to get the smoke out, and went to sleep.
Banana Boi
11-13-18, 08:01
Tell her your friend is in town and he is looking for a girl like Preaw. Explain that you let him get accosted by three girls the other nights and you feel guilty about laughing at him, and finding him Preaw would make things right again. Haha.Would work if you joined me in LK Metro. She works in one of the gogo bars in LK.
TomJones06
11-13-18, 08:50
Got myself a 4 day weekend this past holiday weekend so I decided to make a quick jaunt to Pattaya to see what all has changed since my last trip back in 2008. Got to Manila at 5 pm and had cherry taxi waiting for me at the exit to ferry me to Pattaya for 1 k baht. A quick hour and a half later I found myself at my $29 per night airb&be at the Base condo. Really descent location, Soi Metro is less than a 10 min walk, central festival mall is less than a 10 min walk, and both walking street and Soi 6 can be reached within 10-15 min. Didn't have to uber, grab, taxi, or bike anywhere. Anywho, after dropping off the bags, showering and changing, I headed straight for walking street. After reading a few pages of reports, I knew I didn't want to spend what the gogo bars would be asking, so I concentrated on the beer bars, and night clubs. I ended up just stopping and having a drink up and down walking street getting to know strangers and enjoying the sweet sweet sound of "cholcolate man, so sexy" LOL Around midnight I headed to club 808 and I was not disappointed with the ladies inside. I forced myself to sit still, enjoy some beer, and the music for at least 2 hours before I picked one. I hate it when I pick one and as I'm leaving an even sexier chick walks by. Now the ladies in 808 are clearly lovers of the chocolate. Hel even the coyote dancer had an ass plenty of black girls would be jealous of! I kept ignoring the eye contact and come fuck me faces because to be honest it feels a little weird knowing that I was a fetish to them. Hypocrite, I know LOL. Anyway, one beautiful woman caught my eye above all others so I invited her to the dance flor. She was all of 5'0 tall, 120 lbs and had a killer dress that showed some gorgeous thighs. I cut right to the chase and asked her to come home with me. She said OK, how much you give me? I said 1 k. She said no, 2 k long time. I said no, 1500 long time. She said no. I said OK, and turned my back. I didn't get a chance to walk away because she grabbed my hand and said, OK 1500. Easy day. Took her back to the room, showered again and settled back for a nice BBBJ, after which we went to work for the next hour or so with a condom. Condom broke I said fuck it and kept going. She didn't seem to mind. I quickly blew all over her back and went to sleep. Woke up in the am and did it again. Since we are living in the digital age, I decided to try tinder. That was a good decision. I had 20 matches within 30 min, all willingly giving up their line numbers and quoting 1 k short time. I went with a cute chick who had killer thighs in her profile picture. When she showed up she looked a little chunky, but she was still cute so I went with it. Out of her clothes she was amazing. I don't know where the hell she got all that ass, but I enjoyed it so much she might be pregnant right now! I came in her a solid 3 times! Simply amazing. Spent the rest of the day getting a great massage at 7 spaluxury spa. I wanted to get a final round in before I left, but the chick I wanted from a beer bar already had a customer, so I spent the last night walking around soi Metro and drinking my ass off. All in all it wasn't a bad trip, I prefer the PH to Thailand any day of the week though. Looking forward to a week in Manila in about 3 weeks. Total damage: $550 for flight and hotel from Japan. $60 for cabs to and from Pattaya. $?? For beer LOL $75 for the ladies. $250 for a tattoo. $100 for food. I can think of worse ways to spend roughly $1100-$1200 in 3 days.
Last night on Walking Street.I think it's not appropriate to take pictures of situations like this and it's certainly not appropriate to post them on the internet. What if it was you lying there and someone else posted a picture of it? What if this guy died out there and people who know him find about that because of this picture?
LOL. Gross.LOL? That isn't really appropriate either is it?
Banana Boi
11-13-18, 09:42
I think it's not appropriate to take pictures of situations like this and it's certainly not appropriate to post them on the internet. What if it was you lying there and someone else posted a picture of it? What if this guy died out there and people who know him find about that because of this picture?
I didn't take the photo. It was in the news and already on the internet, posted on Thai Visa. If I'm in a gogo bar I would be busy with a girl and wouldn't even notice a guy passed out on the floor.
I usually stay in Jomtien where it's less crowded less expensive
Where do you hobby in Jomtien where there are young, cute, less expensive girls? I'm always open to suggestions.
Member #4698
11-13-18, 13:08
I am visiting Pattaya early next year, and I like girls who are natural (or very lightly trimmed). Of course, modern trend is for fully shaven (or just a small landing strip), but I prefer natural. What percentage of girls are natural, and where is the best place to pick up girls who are natural? Thailand is the wrong place to go if you want natural full bush girls. I just spent 6. 5 weeks in Thailand and 3 weeks in Jakarta where I encountered zero Thai & Indo girls without a trimmed or fully shaved pussy.
China is where you should go if you desire a full uncut bush. I just left Macau and HKG where every Chinese girl I had a session with possessed a natural untouched, untrimmed, full bush. Why? 2 reasons: first, in China a girl with a natural hairy snatch is considered healthy and fertile and second, Chinese girls are more modest than their SE Asian counterparts and they prefer some cover. Even high end Chinese Macau Sauna girls have natural full length hair down below. It did not stop me from having a good time, LOL, although I do prefer fully shaved or trimmed landing strips, but I sacrifice that option willingly for light skin, tall, thin, large natural breasted, very sexy Chinese girls when I am in their vicinity. The hot ones don't come cheap (they are really expensive) however. More on that when I post my Macau and HKG trip report.
Blanquiceleste
11-13-18, 14:32
LOL. Gross.
No judgment intended to those who find their enjoyment in Pattaya and I understand this can happen anywhere but this seems somehow to sum up why I avoid this underbelly of Thailand's P4P world. If I venture in that direction I usually stay in Jomtien where it's less crowded less expensive and where when you are familiar with the layout there are enough choices for good food and sex to keep you busy for however long you stay. Its why a lot of retirees choose to live there.I would not laugh at others' misfortunes, especially of this magnitude. The guy had a cardiac arrest while inside a gogo. I can't see what that has to do with Thailand's underbelly. It could happen anywhere, including Jomtien.
Mr Enternational
11-13-18, 15:00
I would not laugh at others' misfortunes, especially of this magnitude. The guy had a cardiac arrest while inside a gogo. I can't see what that has to do with Thailand's underbelly. It could happen anywhere, including Jomtien.Yeah those were really weird statements. Two years ago a buddy of mine in Pattaya was getting a massage and had a heart attack and died. It was his own fault though. The doctors kept telling him he needed a procedure and he would not get it. Plus those signs in the massage shop say that you should not be getting a massage if you have a heart condition. That shit is real.
I think it's not appropriate to take pictures of situations like this and it's certainly not appropriate to post them on the internet. What if it was you lying there and someone else posted a picture of it? What if this guy died out there and people who know him find about that because of this picture?Well then my friends that read Thai Visa would know that something happened to me and notify my family in order to make arrangements to find my ass and do whatever with me. At least that is how I see it.
Chocha Monger
11-13-18, 15:25
Yeah those were really weird statements. Two years ago a buddy of mine in Pattaya was getting a massage and had a heart attack and died. It was his own fault though. The doctors kept telling him he needed a procedure and he would not get it. Plus those signs in the massage shop say that you should not be getting a massage if you have a heart condition. That shit is real.
Well then my friends that read Thai Visa would know that something happened to me and notify my family in order to make arrangements to find my ass and do whatever with me. At least that is how I see it.Especially true, when it is a prostate massage. I know of a case where an oldie was getting a prostate massage and the girl did that maneuver where she squeezes the tip to prevent the cum from squirting out. It is supposed to intensify the orgasm. Apparently, it was a bit too intense because it short-circuited the old geezer's heart. He expired due to a massive coronary.
All middle-aged and elderly mongers with pre-existing conditions should be prepared to die while getting their nuts sapped in a Southeast Asian knock shop or during a Viagra fueled session with an energetic young hooker in a hotel room. Expired mongers do not get privacy in Southeast Asia, and more so, if they meet their end or experience a close encounter with the Reaper in the line of duty. The odds are good that someone back home will see the monger laid out in all his glory with the young hookers looking on.
I think it's not appropriate to take pictures of situations like this and it's certainly not appropriate to post them on the internet. What if it was you lying there and someone else posted a picture of it? What if this guy died out there and people who know him find about that because of this picture?
LOL? That isn't really appropriate either is it?Sry the LOL auto-all capped for some reason. But no lie, I did chuckle. I don't take pleasure from seeing that, but cmon now. Regardless of how old you are, take of yourself. Physically. Especially if you're going to subject yourself to a blood pumping environment like this.
...Expired mongers do not get privacy in Southeast Asia, and more so, if they meet their end or experience a close encounter with the Reaper in the line of duty. The odds are good that someone back home will see the monger laid out in all his glory with the young hookers looking on.I would not mind going out this way, at all. In fact, I have a buddy who is not even a monger, and he is always commenting that he would like to go out after an intense session. I am assuming that he will become a monger in due time. I already corrupted a few folks already. They love to hear mongering stories.
Especially true, when it is a prostate massage. I know of a case where an oldie was getting a prostate massage and the girl did that maneuver where she squeezes the tip to prevent the cum from squirting out. It is supposed to intensify the orgasm. Apparently, it was a bit too intense because it short-circuited the old geezer's heart. He expired due to a massive coronary.
All middle-aged and elderly mongers with pre-existing conditions should be prepared to die while getting their nuts sapped in a Southeast Asian knock shop or during a Viagra fueled session with an energetic young hooker in a hotel room. Expired mongers do not get privacy in Southeast Asia, and more so, if they meet their end or experience a close encounter with the Reaper in the line of duty. The odds are good that someone back home will see the monger laid out in all his glory with the young hookers looking on.I am wondering if the autopsy determine death by prostate tipper massage technique? The dead monger certainly couldn't tell anyone what happened. I doubt if the massuse said anything! Leaves only a lurker hiding in the corner to know what happened.
Death by banging young hookers would be a badge of honor to real mongers.
Blanquiceleste
11-14-18, 00:18
the girl did that maneuver where she squeezes the tip to prevent the cum from squirting out. It is supposed to intensify the orgasm.It's called edging. Got one very recently in SG. Excellent technique. If done wrongly or badly it can be very painful and worse, it could damage internal organs.
All middle-aged and elderly mongers with pre-existing conditions should be prepared to die while getting their nuts sapped in a Southeast Asian knock shop or during a Viagra fueled session with an energetic young hooker in a hotel room. Again, I don't see the relevance of the location. Plenty of such cases in Vegas and Central / South America all year round. No one cares when an old monger dies.
Death by banging young hookers would be a badge of honor to real mongers.Absolutely. This is the way to go man. With your boots on, in the line of duty, right in the middle of action. And then no one cares.
China is where you should go if you desire a full uncut bush. I just left Macau and HKG where every Chinese girl I had a session with possessed a natural untouched, untrimmed, full bush. Why? 2 reasons: first, in China a girl with a natural hairy snatch is considered healthy and fertile and second, Chinese girls are more modest than their SE Asian counterparts and they prefer some cover.Thanks for the update and you saved me a trip to China and Macau. I mongered there decades ago and had no problem finding shaved or closely trimmed pussy there. Had a Chinese girlfriend for a couple of years and she would not go two days without shaving it smooth as a cue ball.
Things change I guess. I hope the influx of Chinese punters in Thailand doesn't further speed the rush to unattended hairy Bush that has been cropping up lately.
Day 7 - Sunday.
It was about 2 AM when I got into bed. I managed to sleep until 8:30 or so.
As usual, I had breakfast at the hotel, but as the sun was actually out, I then walked down to BR and sat down at one of nearby seaside bars for a cold Coke Lite. Then back to work on these reports before heading back to Soi 6 in the mid afternoon. I again walked there along Beach Road. Lots of people were out, which was good to see. But, with the sun, the temperatures were a little higher, but still not too bad.
Arriving on 6 I saw a very pretty girl at Halifax, which is one of the first clubs you come across on the west end. I headed over but several of the girls there recognized me and, from behind them, they fished out Nam, the girl that looked like a sexy college student who I had been with a few days ago. I think the girl I had been eying knew I had wanted her, but Nam was simply stunning and I temporarily forgot that underneath those clothes was a failing body. But rather than snub her to go with the girl I had wanted, I succumbed to Nam's hot looks. We went inside and talked a little and I teased her about her college style of dressing. She said she wanted to go to college and be an accountant. She was wearing glasses and I said she would be one sexy, hot-looking accountant. We went upstairs and it was all pretty much like last time. She still gave a slow, very nice BBBJ, and she was not put off by the bruising on my Johnson. I did not come and she remembered that happening our last time, and seemed perplexed by it. Oh well.
I wanted to try another girl, a new girl who was not a repeat. I headed east and knew I might be facing several girls that might come after me (Lucky Noi, Jen and Pat), but a man has to do what a man has to do when looking for new pussy. I went passed their bars with no call outs to me nor anyone chasing me down. I went most of the way east, then turned back west. I was attracted a pretty lady at Horny Bar. This is where I bombed with Mona two days ago. This lady, Lynn, was petite, being very short, but with a pretty face and legs. She might not have normally been my first choice, but I senses an energy with her, so I decided to give her a chance. I went in and she was became quite affectionate and promised a great BJ (on't they all? So I bar fined her. Naked, there was a mommy tummy, but her skin was otherwise flawless. I guess she was around 32. Her shower wasn't the greatest, only washing my gentiles. I have to take the shower head to rinse off my upper body, but she was quite pleasant and was smiling practically the entire time. She noticed my red bruise and was ok with it, then in bed she started out on one heck of a BBBJ. She licked the balls and took me in all the way. I am not a big guy, but in her tiny hands I looked to be huge. And guys, I will call this a JAV PSE experience. Her style of giving head is like in the Japanese porn videos and, while not always the best feeling, it was an incredible visual experience made all the hotter due to her pretty face and tiny hands. With the condom on she became very active and something clicked in me and I had a second orgasm in as many days. Wow. Like perhaps with Lucky Noi, the objective performance might not have been much different than the performance of others who tried, but something clicked in my brain I guess.
I left her with a smile and a me with a hungry stomach. I had tacos again on Soi 7.
I heard from Banana Boy to meet him and a guy friend at Palace at about 8 PM. I got there early and was stopped from entering. Huh, I am not Indian! Oh, they are still closed! Come back in 5 minutes, they said.
I went back shortly after 8 and it was already filling up fast. Until about 8:20, there were only two falangs present. Soon after I was seated a chain smoker was seated next to me. Ugh. I think the Chinese government should be very concerned about the smoking rate, as the toll on their economy when hundreds of millions start getting cancer in the next few decades. Anyway, BB's friend Nook (I spelled it Nuk previously) came over, then another girl came over for his guy friend. BB encouraged me later to buy a LD for Nook so she would not have to dance. I figured he wanted she and I to talk and get acquainted so I might choose to BF her later. Nook was indeed one of the best looking girls there. I did order the drink, but before it came, she left to dance! She later came back to gulp it down, telling me she had just been bar fined. I may have lost my investment on that drink, but I suppose I established some goodwill with her. The rule I have preached before is that until you actually pay the bar fine, the girl can be snatched away from you in a heartbeat. You can buy her LD and LD and then some uncouth guy across the room can give the mamasan 1000 baht and she will come over and take your girl away just like that.
Palace has their "models", which are dancers that perform topless. I don't think very many of them, if any, are more attractive or desirable than the regular dancers. The models appear to have bigger boobs, but must often times the rest of their bodies are bigger too! I counted about 25 models on stage at once, so Palace has a pretty big line up of girls.
But I think all three of us were a little disappointed at the talent that Sunday relative to the previous Monday. That hardly means the girls were subpar. Far from it. The vast majority was more than doable, but a couple of the girls we saw Monday who we were oogling over were not there Sunday. There was certainly a few that I could have easily chosen, to include primarily Nook, but none good enough that I felt I had to BF them immediately.
Next we went to Tantra. It was not nearly as busy as Palace. They have three stages and do a round of topless. Actually, I am not the most observant of what was going on and am not a good person to talk about such things. I concentrate on finding that hot girl I may want to BF. I did get a glance at a cute coyote girl that BB pointed out that I might consider later. (I get confused about coyotes, but BB said she would BF guys.) But I think all of use were disappointed.
We next checked out Sensations. This may have been where BB's male friend left us, so it was just BB and me. Sensations is a big club with lots of girls. Neither I nor BB were overly impressed however.
We next went to Happy. We very quickly left.
Next stop was Infinity. It was slow with relatively few Asian men, thus it was short in men, period. Perhaps as a result, we were accosted by some of the dancers. Three came after me. BB only had to deal with one. Two of mine were older, telling me they were 40. One had a set of very well done bolt ONS. I bought them all a LD and they sat next to me and on me and were having a good time. I had no interest in any of them and I got annoyed when they, included another dancer I was having nothing to do with, started hitting me up for more drinks. Once said if I bought her a drink she would not have to dance and she could sit with me. I told her she could dance and I would look at her. She remained cheery as she danced but told me the mamasan had been after them to get me to buy more drinks. After the dancing, I had all three girls back on me wanting LDs. I looked over at BB in exasperation, but he had his lap full of a woman he seemed to be enjoying, so he didn't care! Haha.
But then he finally took sympathy and agreed it was time to leave. I paid my bill and when I got my change back from paying the bill, it was 420 baht. Now, I would rather give a lady 100 baht tip than buy her a LD. That way, she ends up with more cash and avoids the calories and loss of mental coherency from the alcohol. Since I did have some fun with the three, I gave 100 baht to each of them. Then another dancer rushes over to hold her hand out. I am not happy as she didn't for me, but I give her 20. The server also hands out her hand for a tip. I had just left her a fair tip for serving the drinks, but now she wants more! The dancer I gave 20 to for doing nothing keeps her hand out, upset I gave her only 20 and not 100 too. I then had had enough. I took the 20 back and said I was tipping only those who had sat with me. Hands were still out when I stood up to leave. Sheesh. I won't be back there this trip!
It was 11:20 PM at this time BB decided he needed to depart. I walked with him by What's Up and decided to go in and see the original Noi as he walked on. I had no plan to BF her, but I still liked her enough to not just dump her. I went in and asked for her but was told she was out sick.
I walked around a little then decided to go to Red Car and see how it was doing. I managed to get there in time to get a chair by a table, and soon it started to fill up. I noticed more younger ladies have been coming in, and I noticed very few, if any, Asian men were there. I guess that is due to the no smoking policy there. I have said before, if a major agogo would ban smoking, yet had great girls, it would do well. Not all Asian men smoke.
I did see Fern the Nerd but we made no contact. I was watching a classic Thai spinner but saw a couple guys bomb out with her. I know the conventional wisdom is that all ladies who come her are free lancers, but that is not exactly true. If they are there alone it probably is, and sometimes two to four ladies will come together where one or two of them wants to get picked up but the others don't. This was the situation I found when I spotted a table of 3 young ladies, one of which didn't look too bad. She was fairly slender with nice legs and cute enough face. The one I liked saw me looking and gave me the eye and made a wavy motion with her hands, so I went over. She immediately started holding me so I knew she was mine if I wanted her.
It did not take too long for her to suggest we leave, saying she and her friends wanted to go to Lucifer and I would like to go? Sure. I then wondered if I would be hit up for drinks. As we approached Luficer's security, the girls all got out their IDs, proof they were all at least under 27 or so, and that Red Car is starting to attract younger women. Also, maybe the girls appreciate a club without smoke? Once inside, we found bar seats and I offered to buy a round drinks, hoping that I would not be hit up for more. I got my club soda but barely touched it. I knew I would be getting up a few times to use the toilet already during the night! But my worries about more drinks were unfounded as within 20 minutes or so she asked me if I was ready to take her home. I was and we left shortly thereafter. I asked about her two friends and she said they just wanted to drink a little and would soon be leaving together on their own. Again, proof that not all ladies who visit Red Car are free lancers.
Back at the hotel, we both showered individually and prepared for bed. She had told me she was tired and after a quick shower she got into bed and pulled the covers up. After my shower, I crawled in next to her and prepared to simply sleep. I was tired and would have been happy to just sleep, but of course there would not be much of tip for her in the morning! But she wanted sex (money) and started to play with me. There was nothing particularly great about her performance. She was ok with some light French kissing, and she like to touch and cuddle a bit, but she soon pulled me over on top of her with spread legs then asked me if I had a condom. I got up to get one, put it on and entered her for some rather average activity. She likely faked some moans, so I faked an orgasm. We cleaned up and then we climbed back in bed for sleep. She liked to cuddle and I think we, or at least I, fell asleep after a short while.
In the morning we basically had a repeat, but I faked nothing simply saying I was old. She went back to sleep and I tried to rest some more, as I have been getting by on maybe 6 hours of sleep per day. At around 9:30 AM I got up to do some work and writing on the computer. I was wondering if I was going to be stuck with girl, but she got up and 11 AM and left with no issues. I forget to give her name, but it is Ao. Not that I could ever describe her sufficiently so that you could go to Red Car and ever find her.
She was a nice girl but it was all certainly a business transaction. She was a rather average Thai girl for her age. Nice body and pretty face, but nothing exactly special about her. I gave her 1500, which is about what I would have paid for a similar girl on Soi 6. She seemed happy enough with it. I would expect to see her again in Red Car, but not sure I would recognize her! I really do have an issue remembering faces and names. Always have, so it is not due to senility!
So, to summarize this long day, I kind of got stuck with a repeat with Nam at Halifax for 1000 for her and I think the BF there was 300. Then it was a great experience with Lynn at the Horny Bar for the same (plus a 200 tip) and then an all nighter with Red Car pickup Ao for 1500.
Member #4698
11-14-18, 06:46
Thanks for the update and you saved me a trip to China and Macau. I mongered there decades ago and had no problem finding shaved or closely trimmed pussy there. Had a Chinese girlfriend for a couple of years and she would not go two days without shaving it smooth as a cue ball.
Things change I guess. I hope the influx of Chinese punters in Thailand doesn't further speed the rush to unattended hairy Bush that has been cropping up lately.Interestingly, I had 2 CIM sessions with Chinese girls this trip (one in MAcau and one in HKG) and nowhere else. My Macau Rio Sauna "Chinese Super Model" was very attractive. I had 2 sessions with her on successive nights. The other was a Chinese Mainland Hong Kong 141 dot com hotel reservation girl. She was the last girl of my trip. I guess I was tired out both times and could not finish in their vaginas as I usually like to do. Both girls were real nice and they would not stop until I came. I like Chinese girls. They are different from SE Asian girls. As I reported, the hot ones are super expensive (out of this world expensive in Macau). BKK, Pattaya, Jakarta, and Manila girls remain my overall favorites although my time with the Rio Sauna "Chinese super model" was very memorable.
Banana Boi
11-14-18, 08:49
Anyway, BB's friend Nook (I spelled it Nuk previously) came over, then another girl came over for his guy friend. BB encouraged me later to buy a LD for Nook so she would not have to dance. I figured he wanted she and I to talk and get acquainted so I might choose to BF her later. Nook was indeed one of the best looking girls there. I did order the drink, but before it came, she left to dance! She later came back to gulp it down, telling me she had just been bar fined. I may have lost my investment on that drink, but I suppose I established some goodwill with her.Actually I passed Nook to you since my super busty Asian mix girl showed up. I know she's not hot to you guys but she's the one I enjoy hanging out with the most at Palace. Unfortunately, she was girl #1 to be BF from Palace that evening. You still haven't met my #1 girl at Palace. The ex-Baccara girl I call Cat Ears girl. I still have yet to see her at Palace.
But then he finally took sympathy and agreed it was time to leave. I paid my bill and when I got my change back from paying the bill, it was 420 baht. Now, I would rather give a lady 100 baht tip than buy her a LD. That way, she ends up with more cash and avoids the calories and loss of mental coherency from the alcohol. Since I did have some fun with the three, I gave 100 baht to each of them. Then another dancer rushes over to hold her hand out. I am not happy as she didn't for me, but I give her 20. The server also hands out her hand for a tip. I had just left her a fair tip for serving the drinks, but now she wants more! The dancer I gave 20 to for doing nothing keeps her hand out, upset I gave her only 20 and not 100 too. I then had had enough. I took the 20 back and said I was tipping only those who had sat with me. Hands were still out when I stood up to leave. Sheesh. I won't be back there this trip!My apologies for throwing those girls on you. I only know the one you liked the most. She is fun to goof around in the bar but I have never bought her a LD. I've never even seen the other 2 girls before. It was partially my fault for having them begging for tips. They saw me give a tip to my girl. You likely didn't notice my girl and I egging all the other girls to put their hands out, including the one who was on stage and didn't sit with you (I actually liked that one the most). My apologies. Was just trying to see how Jai Dee you were. My rule of thumb is that no tip is needed unless you like them. I have 5 regular girls at Infinity and I took you there hoping the petite cute one was there but she wasn't.
Don't give up on Infinity. It's actually one of the least hustle bars I go to. Girls are all friendly there.
As for tipping the waitresses, anything you leave in the tray is for the bar. If you want to tip a certain waitress, you have to hand her the money separately. I rarely tip a waitress separately as none are really hot enough to deserve a separate tip.
As for demanding more drinks, when you have multiple girls your drinks only last as long as the quickest drinker. Girls tend to drink faster in a group as one will encourage the others to hustle a Jai Dee tourist. I prefer 1 girl at a time and one who I have trained not to expect many drinks.
FYI, you left out our visit to Beach Club. I don't blame you since it was certainly not memorable!
Blanquiceleste
11-14-18, 15:09
Interestingly, I had 2 CIM sessions with Chinese girls this trip (one in MAcau and one in HKG) and nowhere else. My Macau Rio Sauna "Chinese Super Model" was very attractive. I had 2 sessions with her on successive nights. The other was a Chinese Mainland Hong Kong 141 dot com hotel reservation girl. She was the last girl of my trip. I guess I was tired out both times and could not finish in their vaginas as I usually like to do. Both girls were real nice and they would not stop until I came. I like Chinese girls. They are different from SE Asian girls. As I reported, the hot ones are super expensive (out of this world expensive in Macau). BKK, Pattaya, Jakarta, and Manila girls remain my overall favorites although my time with the Rio Sauna "Chinese super model" was very memorable.In my limited experience with Chinese WGs in China, the encounter can be a 12/10 or below zero. I have never found anything in between. The sex with non-hookers has been better than par for the course. But there is something cold about Chinese girls that I can't quite place.
Especially true, when it is a prostate massage. I know of a case where an oldie was getting a prostate massage and the girl did that maneuver where she squeezes the tip to prevent the cum from squirting out. It is supposed to intensify the orgasm. Apparently, it was a bit too intense because it short-circuited the old geezer's heart. He expired due to a massive coronary......................So sad he was coming and going at the same time.
Lou32, which bars did you go to in Pattaya that turned you off so much? Did something in particular happen?
No one is going to argue that Bangkok doesn't have more culture, better places to eat, and more things to do than Pattaya but imo most guys who come to Pattaya aren't looking for any of those. They come to Pattaya for girls girls girls. I don't even consider Pattaya a city since it's so tiny.
I absolutely agree that the low life Cheap Charlies in wife beater shirts wears on you living in Pattaya.It is just the overall "feel" of Pattaya.
In Bangkok there is a "real city" feel that I like. People going to or coming home from work. A pattern. At night people go out for drinks and eating. Not just sleeze but actual nightlife. But most importantly, people SMILE in Bangkok. There is a wide range of humanity in Bangkok including farang that actually seem happy.
IN Pattaya, EVERYTHING is either "sell cheap crap to farang" or "get farang drunk" or "rub and tug farang". And the expats just seem so. Morbid. Obesity, uniformity and sullen.
I know people will list all of the things that aren't sleeze focused in Pattaya but let's face it. New malls and family friendly hotels on the beach can only hide so much of the depressed atmosphere of that town.
Mr Enternational
11-15-18, 02:07
IN Pattaya, EVERYTHING is either "sell cheap crap to farang" or "get farang drunk" or "rub and tug farang". And the expats just seem so. Morbid. Obesity, uniformity and sullen.Dang man. Maybe you haven't gone as far as Walking Street or Soi Fuck Shop? That is nothing like the Pattaya that I know or the expats that are my friends.
Actually I passed Nook to you since my super busty Asian mix girl showed up. I know she's not hot to you guys but she's the one I enjoy hanging out with the most at Palace. Unfortunately, she was girl #1 to be BF from Palace that evening. You still haven't met my #1 girl at Palace. The ex-Baccara girl I call Cat Ears girl. I still have yet to see her at Palace.
My apologies for throwing those girls on you. !No apologies needed whatsoever! Really, it WAS funny! It only got a bit upsetting to me when the other girls came in with open hands. I am actually appreciative, as it has toughened me up a bit. It nearly happened again at What's Up last night, when I entered and the two girls from last week rushed over and sat down by me when I was with MonkeyPaw. He and I already has a system set up so that I could get out of buying frivolous LDs, but I basically ignored them and didn't need to use the system. I felt empowered! Haha.
Day 8 - Monday.
The red bruising on my member is clearing up nicely. I had breakfast, did more work on reports and I watched some TV and worked on these reports alternately. I didn't get to Soi 6 until early evening. I walked there and then proceeded to the east end before doubling back. I noticed a cute spinner at Bandit Bar, which is on the south side in the eastern part of the street. She was a bit short but with dark features, great legs, great figure and with what appeared to be decent enough boobs. She seemed calm (not a crazed bar girl) and may have been around 30 or so. Her name was Min and she sat with me for a while. She had a crazy friend who offered a three way, which I denied (maybe later) and got us playing Connect 4. I won the first game with the friend, then lost every time thereafter. Note: These girls are experts. They will want you to agree to give them a shot each time they win. Of course, they will let you win the first game so you think you have a chance. Haha. Don't do it! These girls are experts. They will drain your cash if you agree! If you think you are good at the game, at least get them to agree to do something for you if you happen to win, such as a kiss or a feel or something! Don' think that you, with an advanced college degree, can out smart these farm girls in any game they challenge you to! So play with them, just don't agree to give them anything for winning. I watched the two girls play each other and there we making moves every 2 seconds, so they are sharks here. Beware!
Upstairs, the room was ok, with a decent bed actually, but the hallway showers were typically junky. She mostly let me wash myself and I was starting to think this was not going to work out well. But while I thought she would start rushing things, she instead gave a nice, slow and long BBBJ. Her BBBJs were in the upper 10%! Then with the condom on, she felt good inside, but then she soon went dry and I couldn't really feel much. I used salvia, regretting not bringing any lube. She didn't seem to notice a problem and wanted me to continue. She wanted me to come, but without sufficient lube it just wasn't going to happen. She tried and was actually pretty good at what she did otherwise. I could consider seeing her again, even with her friend, but only if I brought lube. I am confused that the girls often times don't seem to be aware that they are dry down there and why they don't seem to be bothered by it. Do they not suffer rubber burns? But, despite this, it all turned out to be better than what I feared or how I made it sound. She was nice and warm, but she needs to pack a bottle of lube in her kit.
I then walked west and ended up at Horny Bar and spoke to Fern, the second woman who managed to make me get off. We talked over a LD and she clearly want me to BF her but I said no, but she was cool with it and stayed with me. After half an hour I figured it was best to leave so she could get back to work. Actually, it was slow on Soi 6 despite there being some good talent out that evening.
I left the area by bus this time and went to Subway again for dinner on Soi 8. I think I returned to WS to arrive there around 9:30. I walked around a little but didn't really do any searching. I ended up at Red Car close to midnight and scored another table and chair. It was starting to fill up and I tracked some doable woman who entered. There was an elegant woman dressed elegantly in a fancy dress that delicately hid her apparently enhanced cleavage. It was quite stimulating. I eyed her for a while and she ended up at a long table, opposite to mine. She was drinking club soda, and I figured I would go over and complement her on the dress and mention that club soda is a favorite bar drink of mine too. But realize, I am basically a nerd with little game, and my speech comprehension in a noisy bar is poor, especially when talking to a woman with a heavy accent. I said Hello, then issues my complements and observations. I guess she was appreciative. She asked the typical questions then asked what I would be doing later than night. Here, I blew it. I said "sleeping". My intended humor got lost in the translation and that right there seemed to kill the deal. It took me a few minutes to realized it, but she turned away and I returned back to my previous table to now stand, as the stools had been taken over.
While this was going on, a fairly hot mature woman dresses in tight fitting, black clothes with big beasts standing out and long black hair with a look that could kill stood right next to me at the opposite table. We made eye contact, I said Hello, and we exchanged names (she was Joy) and where-are-you-froms, then she asked me about the other woman, and why did I leave her. Well, she was the observant one! So I told her I bombed. She asked why. I replied that I guess she just doesn't like me. Joy said most all women are there to get picked and why didn't I ask her out. I just said I never got the chance. So, Joy leans over to the woman and, I guess, asks what happened! Oh my, I am embarrassed. But the woman apparently tells Joy that I didn't know what I wanted. Huh? But what I have come to figure out is that when the woman asked what I was going to do that night she wanted to hear that I was going to take her home and have sex with her That is what the woman was there for. She didn't want to waste time with a man whose only plan was to sleep she wanted a man who was planning to sleep with HER that night. And, to, give her money! Had I instead answered "I want to take you home", I would have been feasting on those luscious breasts. Sigh. Then she asked why I didn't tell the woman what I wanted, saying most of the women in there were looking for a pickup. I said I guess I was shy. She asked if I was going to shy with her. Ummmmmmm I wasn't shy with her and 30 minutes later I was feasting on HER delicious boobs.
I hadn't notice at first, but while she was obviously a mature, seemingly sophisticated lady somewhere around 40 probably, also a looker, and she KNEW she was a hot looker. Her looks were in decline obiously, but she had kept herself in shape and style of dress was incredible hot. As I was walking out with her, we were getting stares like I have never seen before. I mean, walking down the entrance to Red Car to leave, she is in front of me and a guy entering basically gives me a big smile, a high 5 and whispers a passing compliment about what a hot woman I had scored! Getting on the baht bus and then walking down Soi 7 to the hotel and inside the hotel, we were getting stares and I was getting smiles. It was amazing. In the room she strips and reveals a the-sized set of bolt on's that were amazing well done. Her body is certainly starting to soften up due to age, but is still quite nice. And her long black hair is super sexy. We shower and in bed she gives one heck of a BBBJ. She goes very slow and she went on and on and I was soooo close to coming. I think she wanted to bring me off that way and I was her to as well, but I count the number of woman I have been with by my having intercourse with them, not a blow job, so I wanted to hold off of even a rare ejaculation via BJ so I could score another lay. So, I stop the BJ and get out a lucky condom. But we need lube, which I use, but try as I can I get come. So I stop and expect her to be like a typical Soi 6 lady and to immediately dive back in with her mouth so she can save face and get me off. But this lady is not Soi 6 lady and had a rather stuck up attitude that if I can't do it with her on the first try, there is no going back.
She got up to shower, and later she asks me why I didn't come. I said I almost did by oral, and she said she normally gets men off that way. I admitted to holding off bit and she basically says "So you were holding off hoping to come later didn't you? You shouldn't have held back. You should have come when you could but you wanted to phuck me and then you couldn't come and now you failed. Too bad for you. " Well, OK, that is not what she actually said, but it what she was actually saying. I mentioned I expected more oral at the end, but she didn't want to hear that.
She did soften up a little. She talked about life and how it got her into hooking. She has a daughter than wants to be an engineer so she needs to make lots of money to support that. Now, 20 years ago this woman had to have been incredabily beautiful. She mentioned a US ex husband or boyfriend, so she has tasted the good life, and now is living in close to the dredges. She then asked me what I thought about an offer she got from an American for him to take her to the US to engage in prostitution. He promised her should would make lots of money. Of course, I told her not to do it. Sigh.
If you see a 40 ish woman in tight sex clothes and long black hair a set of the's, check her out. If her name is Joy, go on and BF here, but don't hold back on the BJ! She wants to drain you dry. If I see her again I might even BF her just for that! I gave her 1300 or 1400 baht and she was ok with it. .
So, that concludes Day 8, where I had Min at the Bandit Bar on Soi 6 then Joy the freelancer from Red Car.
MonkeyPaw arrived in town Wednesday and I had the pleasure of meeting him for a night on WS. For those who STILL might not believe he is real and actually is out there hunting women, I will add my confirmation to the growing list of senior members here who can vouch for him. He can be over the top, and he has an interesting philosophy on life, but I witnessed his charm and his game on the ladies, and he kills it! At a couple of points I was in uncontrollable laughter, and for this nerd with a Vulcan-like personality much of the time who is always in control of his emotions, that was an amazing thing! His little tricks with the bugs and now buzzing vibrators and lighters that will shock, I mean, the guys gets attention, he gets the girls and those around him laughing, and if you get a girl laughing, you have won half the battle.
Is his father a dominant figure in the world who pays for his son to screw women around the world? Beats me. I don't care to know. I don't base my friends on who their father is or how much power they have. I only care what kind of dude he is, and he may be pulling a con game on us all to some extent, but if it gets me laughing and if he can bring laughter to these ladies of the night who find little about their situation to laugh about, then I freaking don't care.
Blanquiceleste
11-15-18, 12:42
MonkeyPaw arrived in town Wednesday and I had the pleasure of meeting him for a night on WS. For those who STILL might not believe he is real and actually is out there hunting women, I will add my confirmation to the growing list of senior members here who can vouch for him. He can be over the top, and he has an interesting philosophy on life, but I witnessed his charm and his game on the ladies, and he kills it! At a couple of points I was in uncontrollable laughter, and for this nerd with a Vulcan-like personality much of the time who is always in control of his emotions, that was an amazing thing! His little tricks with the bugs and now buzzing vibrators and lighters that will shock, I mean, the guys gets attention, he gets the girls and those around him laughing, and if you get a girl laughing, you have won half the battle.
Is his father a dominant figure in the world who pays for his son to screw women around the world? Beats me. I don't care to know. I don't base my friends on who their father is or how much power they have. I only care what kind of dude he is, and he may be pulling a con game on us all to some extent, but if it gets me laughing and if he can bring laughter to these ladies of the night who find little about their situation to laugh about, then I freaking don't care.Well said. But I guess now you will also be relegated to the list of people who are "trying to defend the indefensible".
I have said this before and I will say it again. You cannot wake up a man who is pretending to be asleep.
BTW I absolutely loved reading your long descriptive reports. Great job.
Well said.
BTW I absolutely loved reading your long descriptive reports. Great job.I love reading his reports also.
Albert9989
11-15-18, 14:04
I love reading his reports also.Me too, waiting for the next one!
Kamsutra69
11-15-18, 14:24
Great FR.
It has been more than a year since I have been to this sin city. I love every bit of it. The women. The food. The vibe. Except that one has to bang as many pussies as possible in the 4-5 days one can afford. By day 3, the law of marginal diminishing utility sets in. That makes one regret not banging enough in the last 2 days whence back to the grind.
And makes one eager to get back.
Day 8 - Monday.
The red bruising on my member is clearing up nicely. I had breakfast, did more work on reports and I watched some TV and worked on these reports alternately. I didn't get to Soi 6 until early evening. I walked there and then proceeded to the east end before doubling back. I noticed a cute spinner at Bandit Bar, which is on the south side in the eastern part of the street. She was a bit short but with dark features, great legs, great figure and with what appeared to be decent enough boobs. She seemed calm (not a crazed bar girl) and may have been around 30 or so. Her name was Min and she sat with me for a while. She had a crazy friend who offered a three way, which I denied (maybe later) and got us playing Connect 4. I won the first game with the friend, then lost every time thereafter. Note: These girls are experts. They will want you to agree to give them a shot each time they win. Of course, they will let you win the first game so you think you have a chance. Haha. Don't do it! These girls are experts. They will drain your cash if you agree! If you think you are good at the game, at least get them to agree to do something for you if you happen to win, such as a kiss or a feel or something! Don' think that you, with an advanced college degree, can out smart these farm girls in any game they challenge you to! So play with them, just don't agree to give them anything for winning. I watched the two girls play each other and there we making moves every 2 seconds, so they are sharks here. Beware!
Upstairs, the room was ok, with a decent bed actually, but the hallway showers were typically junky. She mostly let me wash myself and I was starting to think this was not going to work out well. But while I thought she would start rushing things, she instead gave a nice, slow and long BBBJ. Her BBBJs were in the upper 10%! Then with the condom on, she felt good inside, but then she soon went dry and I couldn't really feel much. I used salvia, regretting not bringing any lube. She didn't seem to notice a problem and wanted me to continue. She wanted me to come, but without sufficient lube it just wasn't going to happen. She tried and was actually pretty good at what she did otherwise. I could consider seeing her again, even with her friend, but only if I brought lube. I am confused that the girls often times don't seem to be aware that they are dry down there and why they don't seem to be bothered by it. Do they not suffer rubber burns? But, despite this, it all turned out to be better than what I feared or how I made it sound. She was nice and warm, but she needs to pack a bottle of lube in her kit.
I then walked west and ended up at Horny Bar and spoke to Fern, the second woman who managed to make me get off. We talked over a LD and she clearly want me to BF her but I said no, but she was cool with it and stayed with me. After half an hour I figured it was best to leave so she could get back to work. Actually, it was slow on Soi 6 despite there being some good talent out that evening.
Amazing FR mate, at it was so intense that I thought, I am not reading I am feeling, anyways, Hawk, I did a lot of RTFF and exploration during my visit to Pattaya, went to couple of Go Go Bar, etc, some places the quality was really amazing and some places it was disappointing.
The only thing which I didn't Like or felt little awkward was, (I don't remember those bar names, but those were on the walking street, and there were 4 to 5 go go bars,) but I stayed for more than 4 days, and everyday I went to those bars but they were not allowing entry, saying it was a special night, was it really a special night or they wanted to avoid us, I mean I am from India, so I dared to ask few of the people I met over there and they informed me that there are some GO GO bars which don't allow Indians, I was shocked and felt down after this incident, so next day, I again went to the same bar, (don't remember the name but was on walking street) the moment I started getting in, the gatekeeper stopped me and told me Members only, I said I am ready to pay, I was ready to pay till 4000 bats to get in, but he denied, that was not a experience worth mentioning here, but do you think, does this thing prevails in those bars. Or may be I was there during Songkran, so might be because of the fest they were not entertaining us.
Day 8 - Monday.
The red bruising on my member is clearing up nicely. I had breakfast, did more work on reports and I watched some TV and worked on these reports alternately. I didn't get to Soi 6 until early evening. I walked there and then proceeded to the east end before doubling back. I noticed a cute spinner at Bandit Bar, which is on the south side in the eastern part of the street. She was a bit short but with dark features, great legs, great figure and with what appeared to be decent enough boobs. She seemed calm (not a crazed bar girl) and may have been around 30 or so. Her name was Min and she sat with me for a while. She had a crazy friend who offered a three way, which I denied (maybe later) and got us playing Connect 4. I won the first game with the friend, then lost every time thereafter. Note: These girls are experts. They will want you to agree to give them a shot each time they win. Of course, they will let you win the first game so you think you have a chance. Haha. Don't do it! These girls are experts...
Great FR.
It has been more than a year since I have been to this sin city. I love every bit of it. The women. The food. The vibe. Except that one has to bang as many pussies as possible in the 4-5 days one can afford. By day 3, the law of marginal diminishing utility sets in. That makes one regret not banging enough in the last 2 days whence back to the grind.
And makes one eager to get back.I fell into the DMU trap with my first trip to Pattaya and I felt like a junkie going cold turkey when I returned home. I made an impromptu 5 night visit 4 months later and banged from time of check in until the taxi driver was banging on my door to take me to the Airport. 8 nights booked in February with a workable 3 bang a day timetable on the drawing board.
Always remember "No one plans to fail, people fail to plan. ".
Rob.
Dang man. Maybe you haven't gone as far as Walking Street or Soi Fuck Shop? That is nothing like the Pattaya that I know or the expats that are my friends.I stick to the usual places like Sois 6, 7 and 8 and LK Metro. I don't hang out around Walking Street too much because why pay USA Prices for subpar women? (The Belarusian and Ukrainian girls on WS look nice but I know the deal with them and stay away.).
I admit, I liked the new mall and Soi "Boo-Cow" has some nice new non-sleazy places but overall I will begin to focus on Bangkok going forward.
Mr Enternational
11-15-18, 23:40
I mean I am from India, so I dared to ask few of the people I met over there and they informed me that there are some GO GO bars which don't allow Indians, I was shocked and felt down after this incident, so next day, I again went to the same bar, (don't remember the name but was on walking street) the moment I started getting in, the gatekeeper stopped me and told me Members only, I said I am ready to pay, I was ready to pay till 4000 bats to get in,When are you coming back? Give me the 4000 baht and I will get you in. I don't understand what the big fascination is though.
MonkeyPaw arrived in town Wednesday and I had the pleasure of meeting him for a night on WS. For those who STILL might not believe he is real and actually is out there hunting women, I will add my confirmation to the growing list of senior members here who can vouch for him. I don't believe I have ever read a post denying that he is real and actually out there hunting women unless it was clearly meant as a joke. But glad you had a good time with him.
I don't believe I have ever read a post denying that he is real and actually out there hunting women unless it was clearly meant as a joke. But glad you had a good time with him.Haha, it was partly a joke. I even went to his condo and saw The Bear. Banana Boy told me to wash my hands after touching it! Haha.
When are you coming back? Give me the 4000 baht and I will get you in. I don't understand what the big fascination is though.The girl I bar fined from Palace said she normally only goes with Japanese. It was a combination of me willing to pay extra and the influence of Monkey Paw over the mamasan that allowed me to get her. And, look at what happened! 6000 baht basically wasted. For 2800 baht I spent the night with a Soi 6 girl who was hot and gave me an awesome GFE. So why should I want to pay 4000 to become a member of a club who has super expensive girls who may not even go with me and if they do will charge me 6000 baht and not even stay and hour and give me a lousy experience? Believe me, I will be thinking about the awesome BBBJ I got from the lowly Soi 6 girl long after I forget the hotness of the high end Palace girl who barely wanted to touch me.
I fell into the DMU trap with my first trip to Pattaya and I felt like a junkie going cold turkey when I returned home. I made an impromptu 5 night visit 4 months later and banged from time of check in until the taxi driver was banging on my door to take me to the Airport. 8 nights booked in February with a workable 3 bang a day timetable on the drawing board.
Always remember "No one plans to fail, people fail to plan. ".
Rob.That is the way to do it. It will cost you X units of currency (dollars, bahts, etc) to get to Thailand and to your hotel. That cost is set whether you bang one or a hundred. May as well bang a hundred. Then there is your hotel, which can be considered as a daily semi-fixed cost. Whether you bang one or a dozen in a day, the cost will be same each day. May as well bang a dozen each day. You only have so much fluid to expel? Look at me, I can only expel fluid once every few days with these blasted condoms, but I have still banged 5 girls on Soi 6 in a single day, and there is no reason I couldn't do more. So yeah, it takes 10 baht to get to Soi 6 whether you bang 1 or 5, so may as well band 5. I am over 60 and not engaged in any regular exercise program. If you are under 60 and can't bang 5 cute girls in a day, you are lazy!
Mr Enternational
11-16-18, 07:14
The girl I bar fined from Palace said she normally only goes with Japanese. It was a combination of me willing to pay extra and the influence of Monkey Paw over the mamasan that allowed me to get her. And, look at what happened! 6000 baht basically wasted. For 2800 baht I spent the night with a Soi 6 girl who was hot and gave me an awesome GFE. So why should I want to pay 4000 to become a member of a club who has super expensive girls who may not even go with me and if they do will charge me 6000 baht and not even stay and hour and give me a lousy experience? Believe me, I will be thinking about the awesome BBBJ I got from the lowly Soi 6 girl long after I forget the hotness of the high end Palace girl who barely wanted to touch me.LOL. You are going to learn one of these days! Keep chasing the 6000 baht dream. Years later I am still thinking about the chick I met at Lucifer that came over and wanted me to invite her friend to drink in my room because it was the friend's birthday. She went to the bathroom and came out and saw me on the bed fucking her friend and came up behind me and started licking my ass. Til this day me and that girl are still friends. You are not getting that kind of adventure from a gogo bar.
The girl I bar fined from Palace said she normally only goes with Japanese. It was a combination of me willing to pay extra and the influence of Monkey Paw over the mamasan that allowed me to get her. And, look at what happened! 6000 baht basically wasted. For 2800 baht I spent the night with a Soi 6 girl who was hot and gave me an awesome GFE. So why should I want to pay 4000 to become a member of a club who has super expensive girls who may not even go with me and if they do will charge me 6000 baht and not even stay and hour and give me a lousy experience? Believe me, I will be thinking about the awesome BBBJ I got from the lowly Soi 6 girl long after I forget the hotness of the high end Palace girl who barely wanted to touch me.It might be that you should be very proud of your results with that 6,000 baht girl. For all anyone knows, you actually got better treatment from that girl in the privacy of a hotel room than MonkeyPaw has ever gotten from any of his so-called "Top Quality" recommended Thai girls. Maybe even better than his teddy bear gets.
Kamsutra69
11-16-18, 08:06
You've given me something to work towards. 5 girls a day on the next trip to Pattaya.
Happy mongering!
That is the way to do it. It will cost you X units of currency (dollars, bahts, etc) to get to Thailand and to your hotel. That cost is set whether you bang one or a hundred. May as well bang a hundred. Then there is your hotel, which can be considered as a daily semi-fixed cost. Whether you bang one or a dozen in a day, the cost will be same each day. May as well bang a dozen each day. You only have so much fluid to expel? Look at me, I can only expel fluid once every few days with these blasted condoms, but I have still banged 5 girls on Soi 6 in a single day, and there is no reason I couldn't do more. So yeah, it takes 10 baht to get to Soi 6 whether you bang 1 or 5, so may as well band 5. I am over 60 and not engaged in any regular exercise program. If you are under 60 and can't bang 5 cute girls in a day, you are lazy!
You've given me something to work towards. 5 girls a day on the next trip to Pattaya.
Happy mongering!Last visit over 5 nights I averaged 5 a day (25 in total) but I only had a 60% completion rate. So my theory is to knock down the numbers and go for 100% completion. 8 nights total for my next visit so a 25 girl target again but I will be investing time in some non P4 P girls.
I think at over 60 you are going great, I'm 57 and wonder how long I have got left mongering.
I always love reading your reports.
Rob.
LOL. You are going to learn one of these days! Keep chasing the 6000 baht dream. Years later I am still thinking about the chick I met at Lucifer that came over and wanted me to invite her friend to drink in my room because it was the friend's birthday. She went to the bathroom and came out and saw me on the bed fucking her friend and came up behind me and started licking my ass. Til this day me and that girl are still friends. You are not getting that kind of adventure from a gogo bar.FL Hawks Law: Within bounds, performance is inversely proportional to the cost of the girl.
Last visit over 5 nights I averaged 5 a day (25 in total) but I only had a 60% completion rate. So my theory is to knock down the numbers and go for 100% completion. 8 nights total for my next visit so a 25 girl target again but I will be investing time in some non P4 P girls.
I think at over 60 you are going great, I'm 57 and wonder how long I have got left mongering.
I always love reading your reports.
Rob.My hat is off to you! I have contemplated going for 6 in one day, and I still have 6 days to try it, but probably won't. But 5 per day for 5 days puts me to shame! If you can do that with a 60% completion rate, I am not worthy! I have been here like 12 days now and have completed 4 times. I hope you don't face such a fate!
You've given me something to work towards. 5 girls a day on the next trip to Pattaya.
Happy mongering!The FL Hawk marathon!
I asked today's soi 6 spinner what the deal would be for me to take her to ko samet. She said BF 560 and lady 4000. Six months ago another girl every bit as good-looking had quoted BF 1000 and lady 2000. So obviously it varies. Whatever, such deals would be ok for men young or horny enough to want to have sex at least 3 times a day. At my age if I am to blow the money I'd rather do so on a 4-star resort.
On the other hand, maybe I'm underestimating those girls' ability to rouse my senses and be willing and available 24/24. The fact is I don't like to be with a girl trying to get my cock hard at all cost. Makes me feel ashamed of myself.
If you are under 60 and can't bang 5 cute girls in a day, you are lazy!I didn't know I had to work during my holiday 555. I'm under 60 but I'm perfectly happy with one girl a day. And this usually means I also cum one time a day. I don't need more. For me there's no fun in just banging away without being able to finish. It doesn't even feel good most of the time.
But to each his own of course.
Banana Boi
11-16-18, 09:38
The girl I bar fined from Palace said she normally only goes with Japanese. It was a combination of me willing to pay extra and the influence of Monkey Paw over the mamasan that allowed me to get her. And, look at what happened! 6000 baht basically wasted. With all due respect FL, I don't believe anyone should dish out that kind of cash UNLESS there is some chemistry with the girl. I wasn't with you guys but 2 huge red flags would be she said she doesn't usually go with Farang but, way more importantly, she was so not keen to go with you that in order for her to make it worthwhile she needed to charge you extra! No chance in hell I would go with any girl with that mindset no matter how hot she was. Thai girls pick where they work. Some I know have a clear preference for Farang so they work at LK Metro, Soi 6, and beer bars. Most prefer Asians as a customer and for a real life boyfriend so they work at a handful of Asian dominated gogo bars on Walking Street.
I asked today's soi 6 spinner what the deal would be for me to take her to ko samet. She said BF 560 and lady 4000. Six months ago another girl every bit as good-looking had quoted BF 1000 and lady 2000. So obviously it varies.
For how many days? Personally I don't believe you should have to pay a girl if you are taking her somewhere nice like Bali or Tokyo but if it's local like Ko Samet then 1000-2000 per day isn't unfair. Just take her on her days off to save the barfine.
I didn't know I had to work during my holiday 555. I'm under 60 but I'm perfectly happy with one girl a day. And this usually means I also cum one time a day. I don't need more. For me there's no fun in just banging away without being able to finish. It doesn't even feel good most of the time.
But to each his own of course.Haha. I was attempting to be humorous in response to the particular poster. You are, of course, totally correct. Each person who chooses to come to Pattaya has their own reasons and their own goals and ambitions, so do whatever you like to maximize your pleasure while you are here. In my own case, I am finding that I am having fewer encounters which each visit. Getting older and facing the frustration of not coming is a factor. Heck, last night I spent the night with a favorite Soi 6 girl and the time I spent with her, GFE that it was, was most enjoyable. I am looking at passing up a few random encounters with uncaring ladies to spend a full day with her actually and I know the single bang that night will exceed to several bangs I will miss out on with those random girls.
I am planning again in this upcoming songkran, My concern was not 4 k bhts, but it was a sheer desperation of what's going inside and the things I heard from people that some of the bars don't allow Indians, As it was my first visit that time, so I was not sure, weather the not allowing Indians inside the Go. Go. Was true or fake. But wanted to know from you Experience Holders that does these type of things prevails or it was that somebody pulled my leg.
When are you coming back? Give me the 4000 baht and I will get you in. I don't understand what the big fascination is though.
Blanquiceleste
11-16-18, 14:56
The SSIT thread was set up for a purpose. Now I am seeing some of that spread over to this thread. By a rather eminent senior poster. Tsk Tsk.
Glad that the two posts have been kinda ignored and the conversation continues about how one should bang 5 girls a day. FL Hawk is my poster of the month!!
My hat is off to you! I have contemplated going for 6 in one day, and I still have 6 days to try it, but probably won't. But 5 per day for 5 days puts me to shame! If you can do that with a 60% completion rate, I am not worthy! I have been here like 12 days now and have completed 4 times. I hope you don't face such a fate!I am afraid that time eventually catches all of us FL and my body is trying to tell my mind and ego to slow down. I, as I'm sure most of us older guys, will go down swinging.
Love reading your reports and looking forward to the next instalment.
Rob.
Snip. and got us playing Connect 4. I won the first game with the friend, then lost every time thereafter. Note: These girls are experts. They will want you to agree to give them a shot each time they win. Of course, they will let you win the first game so you think you have a chance. Haha. Don't do it! These girls are experts. They will drain your cash if you agree! If you think you are good at the game, at least get them to agree to do something for you if you happen to win, such as a kiss or a feel or something! Truth! After my first visit and getting my butt kicked multiple times, I started practicing up where the opportunity presented itself as many bars and breweries near me have it. Getting to a somewhat respectable level, I started at my favorite beer bar on walking street stone cold sober to start the night and asked who the best player was. I lost the majority but a lot of them were neck and neck. She asked for a tequilla and I said ok, but if I win she has to go with me for free less the barfine. Miraculously I beat her LOL. Too bad she wasn't much of a looker!
With all due respect FL, I don't believe anyone should dish out that kind of cash UNLESS there is some chemistry with the girl. I wasn't with you guys but 2 huge red flags would be she said she doesn't usually go with Farang but, way more importantly, she was so not keen to go with you that in order for her to make it worthwhile she needed to charge you extra! No chance in hell I would go with any girl with that mindset no matter how hot she was. Thai girls pick where they work. Some I know have a clear preference for Farang so they work at LK Metro, Soi 6, and beer bars. Most prefer Asians as a customer and for a real life boyfriend so they work at a handful of Asian dominated gogo bars on Walking Street.
.The whole setup to the BF went down way too fast, which is my fault, and it is super easy to be critical now and see all the problems that even a semi-experienced mongeror like myself should caught and stopped. So you are quite correct that before I paid that amount I SHOULD have sat with her for a while. As it happened so fast, I barely talked to her and learned that she normally only went with Japanese after she was dressing to leave the hotel. (But also, I leaned she likes Americans, and she had an American flag belly button ring thing or whatever they are called, so we was pleased when she learned I was American.)
It was down to me wanting her and not wanting to lose her, and the bar being so packed there was no room to really sit and talk, and so freaking loud that we had to shout to hear (or, well, she had to shout as my hearing comprehension inside the equivalent of a jet engine is poor), but the goal here was to get me a hot girl more than it was to simply get a quality girl and HOPE this hot girl just happened to be a quality girl as well. I did find her hot with that innocent quality I like. So I succeeded there, but failed to ensure that she would might at least be a decent lay.
So this was part experimental, and experiments come with risks and added costs and they may blow up in your face. This experiment ended up blowing up in my face! And that is OK! I new it was risky, and I took added and unnecessary risks here but, again, I knew what was happening and I had concerns but I plowed ahead anyway as she was hot and I was horny and do I need to say anything else? And, yes, I banged a hot Palace model girl and I will likely remember being on top of her pounding away on that hot body and innocent face more than the fact she cost me 6000 baht. Put in perspective that I travel to Thailand business class, that is nothing.
...I'm under 60 but I'm perfectly happy with one girl a day. And this usually means I also cum one time a day. I don't need more. For me there's no fun in just banging away without being able to finish. It doesn't even feel good most of the time. But to each his own of course.I am with FLHawk on this. As I reached my 60's, I just could not cum too often, more than once a day. Yet, I enjoy the company of a girl. As a result, I slowly learned to appreciate the company of a provider without the need to complete the session, by coming. It can be fun, as there is so much more to a session than pure sex. The kissing, the BJ, DATY, cuddling, and so on.
I had some amazing moments with providers without ejaculating. Now, I don't even think about it. If it comes fine, and if it does not I am fine with it as well. Heck, I was recently in Tijuana and I did 4 girls per day, in 2 days. In those 8 sessions, I came only once, at the last session. I knew going in each of those sessions that I was not going to come, so I focused on enjoying the session rather than worrying about whether I was going to come or not.
...I was horny and do I need to say anything else? And, yes, I banged a hot Palace model girl and I will likely remember being on top of her pounding away on that hot body and innocent face more than the fact she cost me 6000 baht. Put in perspective that I travel to Thailand business class, that is nothing.Like you, I am a big sucker for eye candy, and I have done it many times in the 20+ years of my mongering life. When I see an eye candy of the type "I've got to have this candy", I don't care how much it costs. I just go for it and I don't worry about the money. I usually can afford it. Shit! I worked all my life for this, and I am not about to deny myself a luxury because of money. Usually, it is not that much, as you have pointed out.
What I also do, is to promise bigger payouts in the future, in exchange for additional GFE services. I have gotten the whole nine-yard from some model-looking chicks as a result.
...Whatever, such deals would be ok for men young or horny enough to want to have sex at least 3 times a day. At my age if I am to blow the money I'd rather do so on a 4-star resort.
On the other hand, maybe I'm underestimating those girls' ability to rouse my senses and be willing and available 24/24. The fact is I don't like to be with a girl trying to get my cock hard at all cost. Makes me feel ashamed of myself.I took a Colombian girl to an island (San Andres) a few years ago. She was 21 at the time, and I was close to 60. I never even thought about how many times I was going to have sex with her, and we did not discuss how much money I would give her. She was so happy and excited to be going to San Andres, she was in cloud 7. I don't remember how many times we had sex nor do I care, but I have fond memories of the fun I had with her. She was one hell of a fun girl!
One funny incident, one evening we were sitting at the beach and this chick likes to talk. Soon, we had a whole family sitting with us. One lady asked her whether I was her uncle. Her reply was "no, he is my boyfriend". Within a minute or two, we were alone, and I liked it that way.
Day 9 - Tuesday
NOTE: I have been unable to upload my reports since yesterday, though I can post comments, but I have just found that if I edit a post, I can put the whole report in! So, here you go guys...
I slept fairly well but was up before 9, meaning I remain unable to sleep more than 6 hours. In picking up towels before the maid come I saw red on Joys towel. Yikes, was she on the rag? Fortunately the bed sheets are fine. I hope the maid doesnt turn me in and charge me for staining their towel! (EDIT: She didnt.)
In the afternoon I hung out with Banana Boy on Soi 6. We walked up and down the street several times tying to find a bar to hang in with minimal smoking, and where I might find a lady I wanted to BF and who had suitable ladies for BB to hang with. I dont think he was looking to BF anyone, only to hang out with some girls temporarily, perhaps while I was busy upstairs.
[And this is a point in my reports where I become confused. Note that I enter data about the girls I have been with into a spreadsheet. Usually I dont do this until I get home, but I am trying to be more current, and when entering data I found a conflict I cant absolutely resolve. BB an I had gone to Horny Bar to hang out, as I said. But the lady that pulled me in to the bar is Aoi, the cubby girl with the beautiful eyes and face. In my report, however, I listed her as being from the Ruby bar. Either she just changed bars, or I simply listed her as being from RUby when it was actually Horny. Or I am totally messed up . The most logical thing is that I got the original name of the bar wrong. So, if you were interested in Aoi, go to Horny Bar and not Ruby Bar.
And to make it worse, I have made reference to a Horny Noi. Well, there is no Noi from Horny Bar, or at least that I know about. So, where I referred to a Horny Noi, I actually meant Jen from the Horny Bar. Sigh. I do try to be accurate in my reports, but I mess up on occasion. But I now return to the discussion with these changed incorporated. ]
Anyway, going in to Horny Bar was not a wise decision, as I had been with two girls here, Aoi and Jen. The fact I had forgotten that Aoi was from from Horny and not Ruby should have become immediately clear. I knew I had been with Aoi, and that she was currently pulling me into Horny, and I knew Jen was from Horny and I, right then, was looking at her, so why the heck I was allowing this happen is now beyond me? When you go with two girls from the same bar, there can be tensions!
So Aoi pulls me in and I am thinking I will never BF this girl again, so why? Well, the open bar is free of smokers and there are plenty of cute girls for BB to hang with and, well, Jen might be upset but she told me earlier I am free to see others so, no, she will be cool with it, but Aoi wants me to BF her but that isnt going to happen, so why am I letting her drag me in as she will expect a LD and a BF and I will have to extricate myself from that, but I dont want to hurt her feelings, nor Jens feelings, but letting her keep thinking I want to be with her again is bad, and do I want to BF Jen after I dump Aoi, as she is one of the few ladies that have thus far gotten me off, which I hope she can do again although, looking at her now, I doubt that she can as she is not all that hot really, but she did have a nice pair of natural boobs Random thoughts in my brain in the few seconds things are happening.
So we settle down, me awkwardly with Aoi, then a girl comes over to talk with BB (girls always come over to talk to him it seems) while I am with Aoi beginning to realize I have set myself up for a potentially bad situation. I did get up and went to Jen, who was sitting at the front looking out, to offer her a LD and tell her I would see her later. Jen was cool and told me not to worry, that I was free to see anyone there, but that she will come collect her LD shortly. I go back to Aoi, who was starting to see that I wasnt being receptive to her advances. A bit later, Jen gets up and comes by to collect the ticket to get her drink then, drink in hand, she comes to the table to chat. Well, I dont think Aoi liked thatd one bit, and after a few minutes she politely left and let me be alone with Jen. Well, BB is there but he is playing with his phone and probably trying to stay out of the mess I created. I thought that Aoi handled it all well, but BB later told me she was P.Od! Well, a short while later, she was manhandling a dude of her own, so I hope things turned out better for her.
I did not BF Jen. I wasnt quite ready, wanting to do a new girl before doing a repeat. BB was ready to leave the area to return home, so I took the opportunity to bale with him, walking back east until I saw a cutie outside of Mods Bar. BB continued on and I went inside with Niknoi. This was just two days ago from my writing this and I honestly cant remember the experience except her fee was 1000 and the BF was 400. I know she was cute and the experience was fine, but I did not put it down in my notes and other events since have pushed the experience out of my mind.
After that I went to WS to do some research. I went to Baccara at about 10:15. It was just so so. The best girls I was were #35 and #86. A Coke was a whopping 155 baht.
Next I went to Fahrenheit at 11:30. I was immediately accosted by two girls for LDs. It took a while to convince them I really did not want to buy them drinks nor was I ready to BF them. The place was not busy, the girls were so so, and there were more guys than girls, hence the girls coming after me for money I guess. A coke there was more reasonable 120 baht.
Then to Red Car, where a Coke is 80 baht. It was a little slowing getting started, but by 12:30 people started coming in. I was at the same table I had picked up Joy from, the stunning MILF. My good luck continued when two ladies, one slender and quite attractive, probably in her mid-30 came by and put their drinks down. I had been looking at a number of candidates. Fern the nerd was in her usual position. I had first said hello to her before claiming my spot. I got a text from her later saying hello. I am sure she wants me, but twice is enough. As I have reported, I am seeing some younger ladies come here, and I ended up talking to the prettiest of the two semi-youngins at my table. She seemed to be interested in me, at least a little. But when she asked me what my plans were for the night, this time I said to take you home. She laughed and, dern, if I didnt end up taking her home.
She was still slender for her age with a pretty face and smile. The sex itself was nothing special, just the standard. She stayed the night and left at about 10 AM. Sorry, I forgot her name, though in a disco, names are not usually very helpful. There is nothing I can really identify about her body to help you find her even if you know the name. Well, one like Fern the Nerd is pretty obvious, and maybe even the hot MILF to an extent, but not to most of these ladies.
So, for the day, I was with Nitnoi from Mods and the RC woman.
I am with FLHawk on this. As I reached my 60's, I just could not cum too often, more than once a day. Yet, I enjoy the company of a girl. As a result, I slowly learned to appreciate the company of a provider without the need to complete the session, by coming. It can be fun, as there is so much more to a session than pure sex. The kissing, the BJ, DATY, cuddling, and so on.
I had some amazing moments with providers without ejaculating. Now, I don't even think about it. If it comes fine, and if it does not I am fine with it as well. Heck, I was recently in Tijuana and I did 4 girls per day, in 2 days. In those 8 sessions, I came only once, at the last session. I knew going in each of those sessions that I was not going to come, so I focused on enjoying the session rather than worrying about whether I was going to come or not.For the younger dudes this news of how old age may be for them must be troubling. Even more troubling is that you won't find it to be so bad after all when you get there!
But, and I will embarrass myself again, with this one Japanese sex toy I have, and I have no idea how to get them anymore as I have searched, I can get off twice a day, day after day, with that thing providing some amazing orgasms. It gives me false hope when I come to Thailand, as success with the toy does not correlate with success with a lady when wearing a condom. I am hoping my Thai GF, whose virginity I took last year, will loosen up sufficiently that we can have decent, normal sex. Thus far, her tightness and poor "fit" are making it unbelievably difficult to come bare back with her. Super frustrating.
I am hoping my Thai GF, whose virginity I took last year, will loosen up sufficiently that we can have decent, normal sex. Thus far, her tightness and poor "fit" are making it unbelievably difficult to come bare back with her. Super frustrating.I have reached the age. So I do have some advice. First the toy is a bad idea. Eventually you won't be able to cum from normal sex. I even give up all forms of masturbation when have girls available for sex, and for a good period before my first sex opportunity (at least a week before). Some day I maybe able to give it up completely.
Sounds like there is a possibility the toy has already interfered with your ability to cum from normal sex. Normally people don't say they can't cum because pussy is too tight. If dick won't stay up due to difficult entry and wrong feel, for sure that is a problem, but failure to cum is secondary to that. I understand that some pussies seem cone shaped and the more go in, the narrower it seems to get, which leads to crappy fuck feel like hitting an obstruction.
I do understand about poor fit. It could even spoil your relationship. Not all pussies are compatible with all dicks. I had a Thai GF that I was not compatible with sexually at one time. She was small but main problem was she was too sensitive, and could not go much more than 10 to 15 minutes. Also was happy to have very infrequent sex. Some pussies are bent or have obstructing low hanging uterus that causes all sorts of problems including the girl not relaxing well enough. Pussies can stretch a lot from 4 inches to 7 inches for the length. Yet there has been the odd girl where I really struggled to get the dick in there. One of these girls improved a lot after she had a baby. LOL.
One key point is to go very slow with sex, putting dick only in partially, and gradually increasing penetration over several minutes to give her pussy time to stretch. BBFS makes it much easier. Your dick may need to be rock hard to be able to penetrate really difficult pussies. If you are not that hard due to the difficulties, Viagra could assist. With a good fitting pussy, it should be possible to put dick in semi-hard and have it grow inside there due to the exquisite feelings. I have no problems to achieve this with a good fitting pussy (not too tight and not too slack). If you don't manage to get these exquisite feelings, you may have an incompatible girl with wrong sized pussy, or simply her pussy muscles are not working right.
With my current GF (has had a baby), I get very good sex but only for 40 minutes max. She is very sensitive, cums quick (more than 1), and gets tired soon. If I try to go too long she will be over it, or finding painful, and then less keen for the next one. So I understand her limits and make it work. After many years, I still want and enjoy a fuck, so not bored by her.
There is no doubt at all that some pussies can be too small or too sloppy for your dick, and just not that perfectly compatible. Part of choosing a girl is sexual compatibility. Believe me, it matters, unless you just decide to outsource all sex to hookers.
Give yourself an opportunity to overcome sex problems with GF, but if cannot get it right, you just have to accept it and move on. Getting it right probably revolves around foreplay, good oral sex technique for both of you, allowing time for her pussy to gradually stretch in each sex session, etc.
Banana Boi
11-17-18, 08:07
I saw a cutie outside of Mods Bar. BB continued on and I went inside with Niknoi. This was just two days ago from my writing this and I honestly cant remember the experience except her fee was 1000 and the BF was 400. I know she was cute and the experience was fine, but I did not put it down in my notes and other events since have pushed the experience out of my mind. The Mod's bar girl was cute but quite a dud. I'd go with her if she had any personality whatsoever.
I enjoyed my time with you at Horny Bar. The girl I was with and I were having a great time watching you do the 'switch'. I enjoyed hanging out with my girl but have no interest in barfining her. After leaving you I headed over to Lisa Coyoty Bar to catch up with some of my girls there. It's one of the only outdoor bars outside of Soi 6 I will hang out at. You should check them out. Definitely younger and cuter than Soi 6 girls but their prices are comparable to WS. You have to pay for quality. It is basically an outdoor gogo bar next to Korea town. It wasn't very good the other day. My main 2 girls weren't around. Be warned Lisa is inconsistent since the girls are barfined quite early and some for days at a time. A fun group of girls.
Day 10 - Wednesday.
This promises to be an interesting day, as MondeyPaw will be arriving. The plan is for me to meet up with him and Banana Boy this evening for dinner then to take on WS!
But the rain interferes with my afternoon plans to visit Soi 6. When the thunder starts I decide to take a short nap. My short nap turns into a long nap, but I make it up to Soi 6 around 5 PM and, dumbly, let Fern from Ruby pull me in. I wanted a new girl and not a repeat, but Fern is a very attractive lady and I succumbed. Even though she gave a good first performance, I now hope that the second time will be better. I haven't come is 3 days and I am frustrated and due for a release, and perhaps her pretty face and body can pull it off this time. Sigh. It didn't, but was not her fault. She did give one heck of a BBBJ that got me as close as Joy had, but not quite there. So guys, don't avoid Fern due to my inability to come. That BBBJ was awesome.
I then went to see Lucky Noi. I sat with her for a bit, then Monkey called for us dudes to all have dinner on WS at 7:15 PM. I thus didn't have time to BF Noi, so we sat a little longer then I said goodbye. I tipped her 200 for the time, but she is getting a little frustrated at me for my excuses for not bar fining again, but oh well. Bros before hoes.
Trying to describe the night with MonkeyPaw (Banana Boy had to bail) is impossible. When he arrived he was so excited to be back on WS that we skipped dinner and headed straight to Windmill, as the main clubs had not yet open. People don't flock to him, but he commands attention by his personality and his willingness to engage people, tip them and take care of them. I have no idea if his stories are true or are pure BS or somewhere in the middle. As long as he treats people well when I am around, I will let him be whatever he is or wants to be. At the least, he is entertaining and he never ignored me nor put a hoe before me.
Regardless of his true story, the dude has Game. He immediately found the (subjectively) hottest girl there, and she was so hot (subjectively, in my opinion) I can't believe she would be working there. But he takes her in and buys drinks for her as well as the waitress, and this girl who makes her living with old dudes trying to stick their fingers up her vagina for free, and lick her pussy when she turns around, was laughing and, for a few minutes at least, happy. When we eventually left, we left with smiles behind us. The dude had me cracking up a few times, and I am not the type that cracks up to very much.
We stopped by What's Up. Noi was there with an old fat guy. She saw me and smiled, and periodically looked at me and smiled. I can imagine she would have preferred to be with me, or a really young, hot guy, haha. When the dude left, she sat there, then I called her over and got her a LD. One thing I like about her is that she doesn't hustle you. We talked a little but I said nothing about her disappointing service. But it was time to head elsewhere and MP and I left.
We then headed to Palace. It was nearly full but we were given a spot near the middle then MP starts pointing out the most allegedly popular girls to me, giving out the philosophy he has espoused upon here about being seen with the top rated models in order to get more top rated models. He believes in being with the most popular girls, though I am not sure what level of performance he typically gets from them. This is a logical plan for one like him who essentially lives in Pattaya and has the means to carry it out, but it is less helpful for the tourist or one with less to spend or can't afford to hunt after a bunch of expensive women. But I realize I have an irregular way of finding and picking women, and I may be able to apply at least a few of his principles to what I do (or don't do). So I listen and study.
I do find that some of the alleged most popular girls there, while hot, don't always appeal to me. I am not sure that I have any one particular "look". I have tended towards the spinner type, but that has been evolving a bit as I have concentrated more on the "fit" of how her body fits in with mine. For a good fit, I need a woman who is a tad slightly larger with some nice curves in her waist. And I don't really care for large breasts. I mean, I don't want small ones, but I don't what them too bit or too fake looking. And I appreciate a pretty face, where she has a cute smile and has an innocent look about her or, in some cases, a rather slutty look. Many of the so-called models here and at other clubs, who are supposedly the best and most expensive, I find to be less attractive, and some downright fat! So I am not impressed with many of the most popular models, but the best of the best are usually also a model. (The second best may not be models, and the fifth best may be!
MP points out two hottties and I agree that I could see myself BFing one, but I am not so obsessed with her that I want to BF her right away. So we go to some other places but I was not taking notes. Sensations was good. Panda was good. I am sure we visited another club or two, but I have to agree Palace overall was the best.
Monkey was patiently waiting on me to pick someone. At Palace, he had previously told the girl he wanted to wait on him, so he was under no time pressure, but it was time for me to fish or cut bait. I said let's go back to Palace, and when we did his girl came over to sit. They stayed with me until I made my choice, but MP had me under no pressure at all, though I was pressuring myself, and that started a chain to disaster.
There had been a girl, a model, who had appealed to me on our first visit to Palace earlier. She was tall with average breasts that looked real and were a good handful. She had a cute, innocent looking face that appealed to me despite a slight skin problem. I felt her body would fit well with mine and that if she was a good provider she might be a lot of fun and provide a good, memorable experience. So I choose Tong, #435. I think a lot of you might not like her face or shortish hair, but she had one heck of a long, lean body and I saw no one better there that appealed all that much to me!
As I said, I had seen Tong on the first visit that evening, but didn't speak with her or have her number. I had to get up, go over the stage where she was dancing, and get the number to give to the mamasan to call her over! That was a little embarrassing, but oh well. If you need a number, you need to go get it sometimes. MP had told me the rates, but I don't remember details like that so well. I came back and MP called the mamasan over who he know well and who he felt would ensure the girl would go out with me. She went over and came back and said Tong would do ST for 4000. I didn't even realize that was 1000 more than normal, though MP had mentioned it earlier several times over. But what is an extra $30 on vacation? I said fine and ended up paying the fee and a LF even before Tong came over. I should, of course, simply called her for a drink and to talk with her a little, but before saying a word to her I had bar fined her! She came over but it was so difficult to hear anything with the loud music. She downed her shot, we exchanged names, then she went back to change. She looked really cute when she back came back out, and I was glad when we got outside to the relative quiet.
Unfortunately, she did not perform well. She was either shy or didn't like me or simply hates her job. After the solo showers, with us both sitting up in bed, she tugged on me to get me hard, and it actually hurt a bit, then after I got hard (thanks to Apcalis) she asked for the condom, then she tugged some more then lied down to spread her legs. She said that she usually goes with Japanese men. She said she didn't want men with big dicks, but she thought I looked like I would not be huge. I decided to not take that as an insult! Haha I am not big, but when entering slowly she grimaced for a few seconds then she said it was ok. She was almost a start fish. She flicked and pinched my nipples, which was about the full extent of her activities, that and some moaning. I have had worse, but not by much. I think poor service appears to be worse when the woman is hot and you have such high dreams and expectations. I don't really care about the lack of BJ, but for the money she commands she needs to perform. And maybe she does for younger dudes, or maybe she feels that we are not paying extra for her performance but simply for her looks. May be.
I was using a new condom I had a single sample of, the Okamoto Zero One. It came in a black packet with gold lettering. It was actually pretty good. It was snug, but at least I could feel things through it I haven't felt with the other thin condoms, to include other Okomoto condoms. When I had her switch to doggie, it was feeling good and she was staying wet, but her lack of doing anything but give some fake moans was just killing it for me mentally. We switched back to missionary and I realized it just wasn't going to happen, great condom or not. Well, I think I could have made it happen due to this wonderful condom, but I realized that with her attitude, I simply didn't want to waste my precious juice with her! Better to save it for Lucky Noi, Nam or Jen or someone who was willing to work to get it! So I gave up. And unlike a good Soi 6 girl, she was not personally offended, nor for her own sense of honor feel it necessary to do whatever she reasonably could to get me to come.
I was not happy, but I stayed friendly. And after her shower, she opened up a little. She admitted to being shy and said she is a part-timer down from Bangkok doing this for supplemental income. And she did seem to be sad I didn't come at least. If she is actually shy, she may have expected me to guide her more, whereas I had let her lead the way. I have no idea of her experiences in this job, but I remember Fon from Peppermint was like this, and remained like this 2 years later, so it is either they are not comfortable with me or this is how they are and, being attractive, they can get away with it. She did say she like Americans and she showed me her belly button thingy was an American flag! She has been there before. I told her I found this whole thing of picking out woman from a line was uncomfortable for me, trying to BS her a little and gain some sympathy and understanding from her. She recognized that but, heck, I should have done this the instant I got onto the bed with her! I still have so much to learn about game, but I am a bit too old to gain much from it now.
But she was ready to go back to work and bang one more dude for the night. I was disappointed with the session and I felt no need to give any additional money to her. MP had already chewed me out for not trying to negotiate that added 1000! Oh well!
So, for the day, there was Fern from Ruby on Soi 6 for a repeat, then Tong from Palace for a disappointment.
I am with FLHawk on this. As I reached my 60's, I just could not cum too often, more than once a day. Yet, I enjoy the company of a girl. As a result, I slowly learned to appreciate the company of a provider without the need to complete the session, by coming. It can be fun, as there is so much more to a session than pure sex. The kissing, the BJ, DATY, cuddling, and so on.Thanks for the suggestion but there's also a financial reason that I don't want more than one girl a day. If I take more than one every day it would mean I have to shorten my stay.
Albert9989
11-17-18, 10:33
I have reached the age. ..............
One key point is to go very slow with sex, putting dick only in partially, .............................I have reached too, I guess, 64, and I can't afford several girls per day, or even sometimes I just stay with a girl to cuddle, carress, and so. But one thing I noticed, was a pleasant exp on my lats stay in Mada, last day, with Valerie. She was not hurry, very quiet and participative, and despite of that I was not really as hard as needed, and at some point after penetration I was not sure it could happen. So as we were very calm and no rush, I just stopped moving, staying inside, watching her face, and after a small time, I came again very hard and was able to restart moving and having a wonderful finish.
So, yes, fully agree, slow, take time, even stop moving, staying in like this is a wonderful feeling giving extra hardness without any viagra or other pills.
At least for me.
HorseTrader
11-17-18, 17:52
Day 10 - Wednesday.
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As I said, I had seen Tong on the first visit that evening, but didn't speak with her or have her number. I had to get up, go over the stage where she was dancing, and get the number to give to the mamasan to call her over! That was a little embarrassing, but oh well. If you need a number, you need to go get it sometimes. MP had told me the rates, but I don't remember details like that so well. I came back and MP called the mamasan over who he know well and who he felt would ensure the girl would go out with me. She went over and came back and said Tong would do ST for 4000. I didn't even realize that was 1000 more than normal, though MP had mentioned it earlier several times over. But what is an extra $30 on vacation? I said fine and ended up paying the fee and a LF even before Tong came over. I should, of course, simply called her for a drink and to talk with her a little, but before saying a word to her I had bar fined her! She came over but it was so difficult to hear anything with the loud music. She downed her shot, we exchanged names, then she went back to change. She looked really cute when she back came back out, and I was glad when we got outside to the relative quiet.
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I simply didn't want to waste my precious juice with her! Better to save it for .....I agree with what you say you should have done, spend a little time with her before committing to a major session. You need to assess her personality and assess if she has an attraction to you and will provide a good session. My best all time professional sex session came with a Nana Butterflies girl who clearly was attracted to me from the time we first met. My worst experiences have been with girls who were very physically appealing to me and I committed before I spent enough time with them. Sometimes it only takes a few minutes to know, just 1 lady drink is often enough. Of course, a nice time in the bar does not guarantee a nice time in the room, but it sure helps identify the potential bad ones. Very few times did I make a quick decision in the bar and have a great session in the room.
I think there may be extra charges involved when you call a girl off the stage. At a minimum, she has the upper hand because she knows that her appearance excites you and maybe you will pay extra and accept less because you find her to be a hottie.
I find it awkward to talk to a free lancer on the street. Since I seldom get the positive vibes, I seldom go with a free lancer. For me, escorts are just as risky.
It's frustrating to get to the point where you don't want to waste your cum on them, but it is better to save it for another girl that you can enjoy. Of course, that assumes you have the financial resources to pay for another.
MongerForSex
11-17-18, 20:56
I plan on going to Thailand (Pattaya) in January, it's going to be my first time on a Thai soil.
I am new in this forum, I wrote some reports in the Brazilian thread and enjoy reading your reports. I have a few questions for you.
I plan to travel to Thailand with a Brazilian passport, Is it better to use American passport than Brazilian Passport for a visit to Thailand, I ask this question because I hold a dual citizenship. I plan to stay 6 weeks without using any visa.
I am looking for some hotels. What is the best area in Pattaya? Not far from Pattaya walking street. Most hotels are guest friendly?
If I take a girl for all night, I will only have two shots and short time one shot? Can I have 6 -7 shots for long time and 2 shots for short time in Pattaya? Because it works that way in Brazil.
Most Thai women are average looking unlike Brazilian women. Where can I find the hottest Thai girls? I can pay between 5000 and 10000 bhats all night just for experience. The girl must be good looking not average looking like most Thai women and offer DFK and BBBJ. I've never fucked Asian women outside of Japanese born Brazilians in Sao Paulo and Parana. How can I avoid trannies? There are only girls in clubs?
DFK, BBBJ and anal sex are common in Pattaya? Kissing girls on their mouth and grabbing asses in the clubs are as common as in Brazil? There are termas or boates with bedrooms and suites on the premises where you can drink some beer and talk to and dance with the girls before going to the room like in Rio de Janeiro and Sao Paulo.
I am a Jewish Brazilian of middle eastern descent, what Thai people think of Jews and Brazilians? They refuse Jews entry from clubs? There are clubs in Pattaya that cater to Brazilian men? I know there are clubs that cater to Japanese, Korean, Indian, Arab and white men. I don't mind going to any club if I can find a girl I like but I've heard from some websites that every club have a client preference and refuse some clients.
Do I need to have my passport with myself when I go out? Do I need to show my ID when I go to clubs? Because I've never shown any ID in Brazil and Mexico. I've only shown my ID in the USA when I looked younger but now they don't ask me any more because I look over 21.
Pattaya is more dangerous than Brazil? , to be honest I am a bit scared to go to Thailand because I don't speak the language and don't know the culture.
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