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Mr Enternational
11-17-18, 23:30
Pattaya is more dangerous than Brazil? , to be honest I am a bit scared to go to Thailand because I don't speak the language and don't know the culture.LOL. I lived in Rio before Pattaya. Used to stay at my girlfriend's house in Cidade de Deus. I heard more gunshots and sirens there in 1 night than I have heard in Pattaya in 8 years. Plenty of people speak English. It is an international tourist city. Every now and then I run into some Brazilian couple tourists. I have a buddy from Sao Paulo that I shoot pool with that lives in Pattaya with his Thai wife. Culture? The culture is money.
Crocodilexp
11-18-18, 05:11
I plan to travel to Thailand with a Brazilian passport, Is it better to use American passport than Brazilian Passport for a visit to Thailand, I ask this question because I hold a dual citizenship. I plan to stay 6 weeks without using any visa.For visiting Thailand, a Brazilian passport is better. You get 90 days visa-free on each entry (bilateral agreement), whereas with a US passport you get only 30 days.
What is the best area in Pattaya? Not far from Pattaya walking street. Most hotels are guest friendly?Walking street has become a bit of a tourist trap. Good for flashing lights, not so good for pulling girls at reasonable prices. If your primary purpose is mongering, I'd go for something close to the Beach Road or Soi LK Metro. As far as I know, most hotels in Pattaya are girl friendly, though a few might try to charge you for a guest (pure cash grab, nothing else). Tip when booking: just book 1-2 nights after arrival, then extend once you're sure the place is good. Quality is all over the place, and online reviews often don't mean much.
If I take a girl for all night, I will only have two shots and short time one shot? Can I have 6 -7 shots for long time and 2 shots for short time in Pattaya? Because it works that way in Brazil.That's a bit of a stretch. Short time is usually 1 shot, but you can ask in advance if you want 2, and some girls will agree. Don't count on 6-7 shots for long time, unless you have exceptional chemistry (unlikely). For long time, I found that 3 shots are common, 2 in the evening and 1 in the morning. However, it's been a few years since I had a long time, not easy to find someone I'd actually enjoy spending a night with.
Where can I find the hottest Thai girls?Not in Pattaya, really, most girls are significantly below average, even for Thailand. Try The Lord or a similar place in Bangkok. Usually, hottest hookers are not great performers, nor do they have a good attitude, but if you just want to stick your dick in one, you can surely do that. If you want to enjoy Pattaya, you need to lower your standards. By a lot. It's more about quantity, naughty atmosphere and relaxed service than about good looking women.
How can I avoid trannies?They're easy to spot, and if you ask, they'll tell you. I think the only way of actually ending up with a katoy is if you're drunk and reluctant to ask.
DFK, BBBJ and anal sex are common in Pattaya?The first two used to be standard, not even necessary to negotiate, though service is going downhill in recent years. Anal is not that common, you'd have to ask in advance. Grabbing asses in public and even milder displays public affection are frowned upon in Thailand. Sure, it's Pattaya and anything goes, but being boorish like that won't endear you to anyone in sight or improve your chances.
what Thai people think of Jews and Brazilians? You're just a Farang to them, they have no clue what either a Jew or a Brazilian is. I doubt you'll encounter anyone in Pattaya who can point out either Brazil or Jewland on the map. Generally, if you're light skinned (Korean, Swedish), Thais will hold you in slightly higher regard than if you're dark skinned (Indian, Arab).
Do I need to have my passport with myself when I go out? Legally, yes, but in practice it's better to carry a copy of your passport (data page and visa / entry stamp page). Losing your passport is much more of a hassle than if cops stop you and find out you don't have it. No need for ID when going to clubs, though I generally carry some photo ID with me.
Pattaya is more dangerous than Brazil? Absolutely not, it's not even comparable. You could stumble around visibly drunk down any alley in Pattaya at 3 am, and most likely nothing will happen to you. Of course, if you make that a habit and you're unlucky, a ladyboy might relieve you of a few valuables, but serious violence is rare.
I think the biggest safety issue is potential conflict with the locals. Just keep respectful, don't get into a tussle, exit or de-escalate any heated situations, and you'll be fine.
Day 11 - Thursday.
Went to Soi 6 mid-afternoon and end up with L'Lam at Sex in City. She had a really nice face and, I thought, medium boobs. She had pretty good English and conversation with her came easy. For once, I had some game I thought, entertaining this 27 year old cutie and making her laugh. Her waist was a little larger than I like, but the ease of conversation overruled any objections to her body. After a good 20 minutes of talking I asked if she liked me (duh, of course) and if she wanted to go upstairs (duh, of course), but in her affirmative answers she was all smiles and seemed halfway true.
So up we went but the room tiny. It had it's own toilet and shower, but the bedroom itself barely was large enough for the bed with a few feet to maneuver and the end. She was an ok provider. I discovered she had a tongue piercing which I don't like. I don't know if it was the piercing or something else but, as I am sensitive to anything that might irritate or scratch my Johnson, I was just about ready to tell her to stop when she did, to move on to intercourse. It was thereafter all pretty standard stuff. She was smiling the whole time and that made me smile and feel good about the whole thing. She didn't say too much about me not coming, which is how I prefer it, then we cuddled for at least 5 minutes, which felt nice. I would rate her face an 8, her body a 6 and the performance a 5 to 6, which means she did average. If you want a pleasant girl with good English, and enjoy cowgirl with smiling sweet young thing smiling down upon you, then L'Lam may be your girl.
I then moved on and allowed myself to be dragged in by Nam of Quicky bar, the PSE queen. I did not want to BF her again, but I try to be supportive of girls who go above and beyond by buying them a LD occasionally. It was at this time that MokeyPaw texted to see where I was and he said he would be coming over. I waited for him and he soon showed up, but he didn't want to monger yet. But he did show me how access the pool and toilet facilities at the adjacted hotel on the other side of Soi 6/1 to take a Soi 6 girl swimming or, if the toilet facilities on 6 gross you out, so go take a dump at the hotel.
I was actually set to head down to Lucky Love to BF Lucky Noi who has been patiently waiting for me to finally BF her again, but he and Banana Boy and his friend from Canada were looking to go to LK Metro for dinner then to monger. Mr. E, a while back, had introduced me to LK Metro, and I have gone there on my own to look around, but I had never actually mongered there, so I went along. This allowed me to go to MP's condo and get to see and hold "the bear". Upon BB finding out, he wrote back that I needed to wash my hands!
We then met up with BB and proceeded to LK Metro, where the BB's friend joined us. I don't remember the name of the first club we went to, but it was large and nice and mostly full of farangs. The top ladies here were not equal to the top ladies of WS, but there were a few who were acceptable. We then went to Kink Club. It has two levels, with the lower level being smoke free. It also has a risible stage, where the dancers upstairs can be lowered downstairs. That was cool, and when it came down it presented a nude lez dance act. Peering down from upstairs were a number of smoking Chinese! There were not a lot of girls there, but most were reasonably attractive. We then went to Ninja, but it only had 4 ladies on stage. Some of us not yet had dinner so we found a place to eat, then we all started splitting up. I went with the Canadian to a club he had once from a hottie in. She was not there, but there were a couple of nice looking girls, one I considered taking out, but didn't. But I may go back later. But I will need the Canadian to tell me the name of the club!
He and I split and I returned to Soi 6. My plan was to go see Lucky Noi, but once I arrived at the street I decided I might want to see Jen instead. I decided that if Jen was out and saw me, I would go with her. If she wasn't, I would go with Noi. Well, Jen was out front so I went over to her. She asked what I was doing and I replied that I was buying her a drink. She was a tad bit startled as for the past few days I have largely just said Hello, and used my friends as an excuse to move on without stopping.
We sat down and I got her a LD and we tried to talk but the music was soooo loud. There were some young guys in there dancing and stuff with the girls, and all were having fun. I finally decided that I couldn't stand it any longer and rather than go upstairs in the filth that I would offer to LT her and get away from there. She was startled at my request but readily said yes.
I choose not to get into the details of our night together, but it was essentially GFE. Now if I could get this HALF of this service from a high priced agogo girl with the looks to match the price, I would be all in!
I was reminded that she is actually a petite woman with a very pretty face and awesome legs. We share a love of cats and I think that helped seal the deal. She wanted my Line ID and she sent me pictures of her and her cats. During the night we cuddled (Hint: turn the AC down to entice them to cuddle). In the morning she started a second round. She stayed for breakfast and left just is time to get back to work at noon. I don't know if she has developed feelings for me or if it just an act to get more money from me. It doesn't really matter, as I can't fall for a hooker, regardless of how she got into that lifestyle, and I have already picked out the Thai girl who I would end up with if I am going to end up with a Thai lady.
I do like Jen and may very well LT her again, but earlier in the day possibly.
But to summarize, I saw L'Lam from Sex in City, and repeated Jen from Horny Bar for an all-nighter.
...Try The Lord or a similar place in Bangkok...I thought The Lord is closed for business. Did it reopen?
YoungAndFun007
11-18-18, 10:11
Coming for 18 days in January for first time. 39 white male USA. Can anyone show me around.
Banana Boi
11-18-18, 14:35
FL, first off thanks for all your reviews. Something MP said to me last night hit home. Made me think I was being critical with you and your girl from Palace. Kudos to you for being honest in all your reviews, good or bad. Takes balls to post failed session reviews as it opens you up to criticism and wise crack remarks from other posters who don't even post reviews. I find if there is a review from a poster it will more than likely only be of their positive sessions and conquers. They are seeking positive reinforcement that they have done so well. It's rare to see a review of a failed session. I know MP would also post his failed sessions and off the top of my head I did post about a girl who wouldn't even give me a HJ in what I believe is a FS massage joint. Takes guts to post stuff like that since it doesn't pump up ones ego. Again, kudos to you and thanks again for the reviews. Great entertainment.
To answer your questions, the first LK Metro bar we all hit was Champagne. My first visit to Champagne in quite some time and I have to say it was much better than expected. Thanks MP for taking us there. 2 full sets of topless models packed on a huge stage. Like you said not top WS quality but a couple there that were LD worthy. The last bar you hit was Touch. I thought Kink was bad but better than the first time I went. I did manage to find a long lost hostess from a WS bar who I think is one of the prettier WG in Pattaya. I was shocked to see her at Kink tbh. Ninja was a disaster.
Blanquiceleste
11-18-18, 14:42
FL, first off thanks for all your reviews. Something MP said to me last night hit home. Made me think I was being critical with you and your girl from Palace. Kudos to you for being honest in all your reviews, good or bad Takes balls to do so as it opens you up to criticism and wise crack remarks from other posters who don't even post reviews. I find if there is a review from a poster it will more than likely only be of their positive sessions and conquers. They are seeking positive reinforcement that they have done so well. It's rare to see a review of a failed session. I know MP would also post his failed sessions and off the top of my head I did post about a girl who wouldn't even give me a HJ in what I believe is a FS massage joint. Takes guts to post stuff like that since it doesn't pump up ones ego. Again, kudos to you and thanks again for the reviews. Great entertainment.Well said BB. That shit takes a lot of courage, even on an anonymous forum. Plenty of Monday morning quarterbacks on this forum.
As I said before FL Hawk is my poster for the month.
MongerForSex
11-18-18, 19:40
That's a bit of a stretch. Short time is usually 1 shot, but you can ask in advance if you want 2, and some girls will agree. Don't count on 6-7 shots for long time, unless you have exceptional chemistry (unlikely). For long time, I found that 3 shots are common, 2 in the evening and 1 in the morning. However, it's been a few years since I had a long time, not easy to find someone I'd actually enjoy spending a night with.
Not in Pattaya, really, most girls are significantly below average, even for Thailand. Try The Lord or a similar place in Bangkok. Usually, hottest hookers are not great performers, nor do they have a good attitude, but if you just want to stick your dick in one, you can surely do that. If you want to enjoy Pattaya, you need to lower your standards. By a lot. It's more about quantity, naughty atmosphere and relaxed service than about good looking women..Thanks for replying to my post. So I better choose Bangkok over Pattaya for quality.
Good looking girls are not good performers in Thailand and don't have good attitude. I am also picky about attitude. I don't fuck a girl just because she is hot. I don't mind spending money if the girl is good looking with a good attitude that's why I am very picky when I pay more. I am not interested in Quantity because when I leave Thailand I will keep fucking women in my home country. I just want quality and have good experience with some thai women.
Damn I am not a German or Japanese Brazilian so I don't look Swedish or Korean. I am considered to be white in the USA and Brazil. I am white skinned but don't have north European features, I am whiter than thai people. I look like most jews or Portuguese and spanish people. In the USA and Brazil, money talks first no matter your skin color.
I like to kiss and dance with girls and grab their asses and I also like when they grab my dick before having sex with them, we Brazilian guys are more emotional when it comes to sex that's why we are picky about attitude, patience and personality. We don't like to fuck girls with bad attitude just because she is hot. Many good looking girls in Brazil are good performers. I prefer to fuck a nice average Brazilian over an arrogant beautiful Brazilian because I am still attracted to average Brazilians. I will travel miles because I only want to have sex with beautiful thai women. I have no attraction to average looking thais. To me, thai women are either ugly or beautiful because average looking thais are ugly to me.
Coming for 18 days in January for first time. 39 white male USA. Can anyone show me around.If you were in town in early February I would give you a tour or 2.
Blanquiceleste
11-19-18, 00:21
I've been on this forum for a really long time and had my first trip to Pattaya I fucked up. Gosh! You need a hug. Perhaps you took the "posting a review about failures" bit a little too seriously.
But there are several mistakes you could have avoided, for which I have no sympathy. At the risk of being an armchair critic here are a few obvious gaffes.
1. If you had a cramp while checking into a hotel in Pattaya, the first thing one would do is try to fix that. Sure, cramps are caused by long hours of flying, aggravated by sleeplessness and even further by lack of hydration. Did you drink sufficient water? I mean like at least a gallon?
2. Good massages are everywhere in Pattaya. The first thing you could have done is get a good massage and take care of that cramp.
3. Despite all the advice you got on this thread, you went to BR on your maiden visit. And you picked a LB. I mean that takes special skills. Zero sympathy on that one.
4. Your room's AC was cold. Which did not help your sleep. And it sure does not help cramps. And you go and put ice on it. You ought to get a medal.
5. Finally, if sleep is what you want, why the fuck are you typing reports on this forum? As for reading PMs on the top of your landing page, next to your screen name you would see "Notifications". Click that to access Inbox. After that its like any other email application.
Some guys, you just can't save. I hope you get a wingman soon.
Heading to Pattaya Beach and I was hoping for some help tracking down so variety in the girls. Here is what I have found so far from Youtube videos and forum reports.
African: WS bar close to iBar, Beach Rd (few and far between).
Eastern European: WS gogos (should be obvious by talent outside).
Indian?
Hispanic?
Chinese?
Japanese?
Banana Boi
11-19-18, 02:21
Any sleeping pills that can let me get the 8 hours of sleep I need without like killing me? Sorry if theres typos I can't even count straightI could recommend some sleeping pills but I won't since you can't count. I'd feel like I assisted in your death if you were to overdose.
HorseTrader
11-19-18, 02:23
I've been on this forum for a really long time and had my first trip to Pattaya I fucked up.
Leg cramps on long, cold flights are common. Sorry to hear about that.
Many people have had fun times on BR. Nothing is a rock solid indicator of lady boys, but be aware of the trends. Taller. Narrow hips, wide shoulders. Exaggerated/fake female movements (play with hair, swing hips, etc.). Adams apple. Voice. When in doubt, ask her if she is a lady boy.
As far as sleeping, I don't think Thailand sells anything like Ambien or Sonata without a prescription. Try some Benadryl (diphenhydramine), which I expect is available at any pharmacy.
Hang in there.
As far as sleeping, I don't think Thailand sells anything like Ambien or Sonata without a prescription. Try some Benadryl (diphenhydramine), which I expect is available at any pharmacy.
Hang in there.I'm not even sure real sleeping pills like Zolpidem are available at all in Thailand, not even with a prescription. Benadryl takes hours to kick in and leaves you groggy the day after. Best is to buy Circadine (delayed onset melatonine) without a prescription.
I plan on going to Thailand (Pattaya) in January, it's going to be my first time on a Thai soil.As another poster said, Thai people don't know if you are Jewish or Brazilian. You are light or you are dark, that's it. In my opinion, after 25 years are going here, Americans get treated the best overall, then everyone else who is light skinned. Thais don't care about religion and probably don't even know where Brazil is.
You may experience prejudice from your fellow mongers though.
So yea I fucked up on the first day.
The second day I went to get a massage made the cramps worse, then I went to get a soapie very disappointing 2000 baht + 120 for drinks I didn't order + 500 baht for the 2nd shot + there only being a handful of girls there + you can't even touch the girls in their face because it will ruin their makeup + they act super germaphobic no FIV.
Went to ama fashion to get a suit made 7500 baht for suit pants and shirt there highest quality.
Fell asleep at 4 pm woke up like 5 am.
Asked hotel for recommendation to see doctor really helpful.
They told me to go to the Pattaya city hospital which is on the baht bus route and it was in total 600 baht for the check up and medication.
Yea that's all that happened so far.
I plan on getting a massage then soi 6 then walking street then taking sleeping medication to fix my sleep schedule I think like 10 pm - 6 am would be good.
So yea I fucked up a lot but I learned from my mistakes and I have no one to blame but myself if anyone has any other advise I'm all ears and ill post something tomorrow.
Hey guys,
I've been on this forum for a really long time and had my first trip to Pattaya I fucked up. I thought I knew what I was doing but it turned out I probably had the worse series of events happen to me.
To start my plane ride was supposed to be 20 hours snow at JFK delayed it by 6 hours I was stuck in China for 12 and in total it took 44 hours. I only slept 4 hours in that time.
Importantly in China I had a leg cramp that was so bad that I had to limp off my leg for about 4 hours before it just became moderate pain.
I got to Pattaya midnight. I was planning on going to sleep by the sounds of my neighbor banging a girl made me go outside. I was told by others not to go to beach rode its bad. I went to beach rode.
I brought back a ladyboy to my hotel. My other leg started cramping on the motorcycle. The receptionist didn't say a word when I asked if anything was ok.
The I saw that the guy I brought back had a dick and asked him to leave after paying him. Also both my calves were sore to the point I couldn't even walk without wincing. Then I slept for 2 hours before being woken up by my super cold 18 degree AC. So yea.
I fucked up hard my friend told me to go get a massage for my calves but I can barely walk. I put ice and trying flexing it it helped a bit. I think the cramps are caused to me only having 6 hours of sleep in the last 4 days.
Fuck man any advise would be appreciated. Any sleeping pills that can let me get the 8 hours of sleep I need without like killing me? Sorry if theres typos I can't even count straight also idk how to read PMs so if anyone can tell me how to I would appreciate it.Man do I feel for you. I can't help with any medical advice but I can with the following. The only way to counter neighbours banging is bang more. Tell the receptionist you don't want LBs so could they inform if you accidently bring one back, BTW no one would know if the LB blew you. LOL. I like your adventurist spirit by exploring where you are told not to venture. In regards to sleep I tend to go hard for as long as I can and then when I hit the wall I usually get a GFE type and go LT up to 18 hours to recover.
All the Best.
Rob.
Fuck man any advise would be appreciated. Any sleeping pills that can let me get the 8 hours of sleep I need without like killing me? Sorry if theres typos I can't even count straight also idk how to read PMs so if anyone can tell me how to I would appreciate it.You should buy membership to enable your PM.
As for sleep, you can order a girl from Smooci to your hotel. It may help your sleep after.
I found your report amusing. You are almost the exact opposite of MonkeyPaw in some way.
I had a leg cramp that was so bad that I had to limp off my leg for about 4 hours before it just became moderate pain.
My last trip here I was getting some leg stiffness so I went to the pharmacy and asked for a muscle relaxant. I was given Norgesic, which did the job. I was worried that it might turn me into a mass of jelly, but it was mild and the only effects on my ability to walk and stuff was that it became easier. It is cheap too. There is another relaxant available, so might get that one too, and if one doesn't work try the other.
But hopefully you are already better.
Crocodilexp
11-19-18, 06:10
So I better choose Bangkok over Pattaya for quality.
Bangkok is slightly better for quality, yes. However, you need to manage your expectations. Thailand hooker scene has gone downhill over the last few years, and while it still has the quantity, great looking girls who still work in the industry are few and far between. Basically, the best looking sex workers rarely match average Thai girls on the skytrain (public transit) in terms of looks, unless you're specifically into Issan look and don't mind them somewhat trashy.
What Thailand is still good at is a good diversity of venues (freelancers, agogo bars, beer bars, BJ bars, oily massages, soapy massages), safety and ease of use for a foreigner, still some decent attitudes (though this is worse than in the past), and still decent service levels in some venues (Tulip or Snow White are great value for PSE, but there are no lookers there; BJ bars are a great no-brainer option for getting a BJ). The girls are still a bit more relaxed and fun than in many other places (where a session with a hooker is most often heavily constrained, sordid and restrictive).
If you're into top-looking Asians (regardless of the price), perhaps try another place. Not entirely sure where, maybe Macau.
I like to kiss and dance with girls and grab their asses and I also like when they grab my dick before having sex with them
Thais culture is all about face, and they place a high value at behaving appropriately in public. Kissing in public is a no-no, let alone groping. Even working girls, tend to be somewhat reserved in public, and save the intimacy for behind closed doors. Of course, anything goes in some bars, and many girls will tolerate being groped by drunks, but most will cringe (especially the good lookers that try to keep some face), and it won't endear you to anyone.
As for the attitude, it could be hard to tell before you get into the room. Girls that act naughty in a bar are often not so great once the sessions starts, while somewhat reserved ones can turn out better than expected.
When it comes to girls that grab your dick right away (even in public), that's a sure sign of a ladyboy (tranny).
average looking thais are ugly to me
If that's really the case, prepare an alternative plan. Working girls in Thailand these days tend to be markedly below-average looking, if you take an average among regular Thai women aged 20-35 on the streets and on public transit in Bangkok.
Steve 9696
11-19-18, 06:13
First, let me pile on. FLHawk your posts have been OUTSTANDING. I come to ISG to read well-written accounts I can live vicariously through and you delivered in spades. I did my ten or so posts in the São Paulo thread religiously and documented Berlin patiently, but you Sir have outdone me!
Second, I wanted to comment on aging, sex, and true GFE, topics you have raised. I get the strong feeling that you valued your 'girlfriend' time with Jen as much or more than your various sexual encounters. I can totally relate to this. I recently flew a girl I barely knew to London — could have been a disaster, but it turned out great. The key takeaway was the sex was great but honestly a small part of the greatness. Dancing, dining, walking arm in arm along the river — wow, these are the things that stick with me. Having a gorgeous girl who *appears* to adore you is more intoxicating than sex for me. And believe me this was a surprise.
But a few key points around this very slippery slope (that Jen or another girl may take you on):
1. Does she adore you? Or is it an act? Don't try to figure that out. You may be disappointed. Just enjoy while you can.
2. It can only be good if you keep it temporary. I know it sounds cynical, but people change as they get comfortable. That hot girl will eventually develop unpleasant wife-like characteristics if things get too comfortable and convenient for both parties.
I base this advice not only on my experience which is limited, but on advice from a friend who has gone down the GF route a little too deep. There is this super fine line to walk. But the high you get from a truly simulated girlfriend is really something altogether different that I appreciate more than I did a few years ago. It is thrilling and scary and will probably be painful in the long run. But if you are finding true GFE that is beyond being measured in hourly chunks, this might be the next frontier you are seeking.
I know others have experience in this realm and sugar-like type arrangements as well, so please add your thoughts as well.
Crocodilexp
11-19-18, 06:25
Importantly in China I had a leg cramp that was so bad that I had to limp off my leg for about 4 hours before it just became moderate pain.Your cramps seem serious enough to require a doctor visit. Doctors are cheap in Thailand, about 1000 baht / visit or so, walk-in.
If you have a problem with muscle cramps, be very careful with Viagra (or any ED pills with Sildenafil Citrate). I often get muscle cramps when I take it, although I tend not to get them otherwise, and only take a small dosage (25-50 MG).
1. Does she adore you? Or is it an act? Don't try to figure that out. You may be disappointed. Just enjoy while you can.
2. It can only be good if you keep it temporary. I know it sounds cynical, but people change as they get comfortable. That hot girl will eventually develop unpleasant wife-like characteristics if things get too comfortable and convenient for both parties.
First, thanks for the kind words. These reports are therapeutic for me and a way of paying it back. I have heard that I am inspiring others to post usable posts, so that is good. I also hope that I am showing the human side to the ladies so that they will be respected and treated well. They often have a life that we can't imagine, and putting them down actually puts ourselves down.
Wise words, but have no fear that I am developing feelings for her! She is a warm body for me and, for her, I am a temporary refuge from the hell of her life.
Mr Enternational
11-19-18, 06:46
Your cramps seem serious enough to require a doctor visit. Doctors are cheap in Thailand, about 1000 baht / visit or so, walk-in.Maybe in a private hospital it will run you 1000 baht, but in a normal clinic it is only 200 or 300. From my doctor on Pattaya Tai it usually costs me 500 with medicine included.
Day 12 - Friday.
After Jen left I realized she had not picked up her ID. I Lined her and she asked if I could pick it up and bring it to her. I didn't know if the hotel would let me, but since I had her request on Line they let me take it. I got it too her mid-afternoon and I stayed a while with her, buying her 2 LDs.
Online, there has been discussion about the high priced WS girls, which some hitting on me about spending so much on a woman I failed to properly vet. All criticism was well intended and I am appreciative of it. I presented it all here to help you less inexperienced dudes learn from my mistakes and unreasoned thinking. I get messages from some who think I am some sort of guru here, but I am just an occasional tourist here writes what down was happens. I guess I am lucky enough to have sufficient funds to see lots of women to have experiences with – both productive and unproductive – and boring enough to sit here in my hotel several hours each day documenting everything.
But with the vast majority of my free time spent writing, why am I three days behind now? So on Sunday morning I am only now starting to writing about Friday's activities, and there is so much to write about and I am leaving in just 4 more days!
Let's get started. I headed to Soi 6 mid-afternoon and started with Mickie at Bandit's. I had played 4 Connect with Mickie before, when I bar fined Min. Mickie had then joked about us and Min having a three way. I decided to go over and, if both girls where there, to have that 3-day, but Min was gone so, I decided to try Mickie alone first. She was kind of cute in the face but her spinner body was near stunning in her form fitting short dress. Face 7 but body a solid 9. Her English was poor, and I really wasn't expecting to have a great time with her for some reason. But for $30 I had to have that body! Upstairs when she left to get the towels, I placed one of Monkey's fake bugs on the bed. When she saw it she screamed and almost entered a panic mode. I went to touch the bug to show it was fake and she threw her towel at me. I picked the bug up and she screamed again and ran out of the room and part way down the stairs! But in her rush the poor girls partially twisted her knee joint! I felt so bad and apologized profusely. She was not amused at me for a while there, but we rubbed the knee and it ended up ok. In the future, wait until they have removed those spiked-heel shoes they wear before getting the fake bugs out!
I don't know if it was the bug and her sore knee or not, but the session was not so great, so my initial intuition was correct. She was a bit rushed and the session was simply so so, despite the body. That kind of kills my desire to do a 3-way with them. We will see.
I got word from MP that dinner for the group will be on WS at 7:15 PM. I got there but only MP was there, and why waste time on food when there are women to bang?! We talked for a while on various topics then at 8 PM headed to Panda Bar. They had a nice selection in this small club. MP had a girl or two over and I spoke with one. I didn't catch her name but my recollection is that she was #23 (MP later told me it was 288). I liked her and said I would be back later (and I did go back but didn't see her).
We went to Palace. We saw Tong, the high priced non-performer, and MP and I had devised ways to possibly BF her again but to get closer to the experience I wanted. Now, MP has Game and can play the role of a player to perfection. Me? I just can't do it. But basically, the plan is for me to BF Tong again but for me to first get her to agree to do certain things that I want, I. E. To kiss, to touch, to shower with me, etc. If she agrees, then I will pay her what she wants. Actually, these are all reasonable things to negotiate for any bar girl, right? It is just most of these things are expected so we don't HAVE to, especially from high priced one!
Now let me interject that conventional wisdom says I should simply ignore Tong and cut my losses. But I was upset about being ripped off basically, but I still liked the girl (OK, strange.) and I am still below my budget so why not try? If it works, it will be worth it. If I fail again, well, I will still get to bang a hot woman, even if she is overpriced.
Well, I called Tong over and after 3 LDs (2 more than I planned on, plus they were shots, possibly meaning she didn't really want to be there and was wanting to get away) was not able to get any agreement from her. I am not even sure she understood what I was asking, possibly hustling me all the while. But I refused to BF her and sent her back to dance. Over, right? If a girl can make her money by simply spreading her legs, why work harder, especially if the guy is nearly 3 times older? Who of us in our 20's would want to kiss and touch a women in her 60's? Yuck!) So, it appears the game is over with Tong. She fooled me the first time, but I didn't let her fool me the second.
We next went to Baccara. Now, this is one club I had no idea how to pronounce! I finally settled on Ba CAR ah. Apparently the correct pronunciation is Bawk ah RAW. They had some nice girls.
I am sure we did some other things but we dudes eventually split up. I went back to Panda. The girl I promised to return to was gone.
I ended up at Red Car, but it was packed and I quickly left.
Outside, I eyed a cute girl and followed her to Lucifer. I lost track of her but entering the disco area there was a single lady setting at a table who smiled at me as I entered. Was it her? I went over and said Hi and she was happy to have me there, but then I realized she was a chubby girl and not at all who I had thought. I extricated myself from the situation and left to go home alone. Sheesh, I am leaving town in 6 days and I am bombing out! Well, of course I had my choice of hundreds of women, but I was tired.
And this is part of the Pattaya Blues I nearly always experience. When you arrive in Pattaya (or at least when I arrive in Pattaya), you are happy and excited and dying to get out there and bang women, or at least find a woman to bang if you are in to quality before quantity. You have a blast but at the 2/3rd point you get kind of tired, maybe a bit disillusioned as your dreams of a GFE with a super beautiful woman just aren't coming true and the mass of humanity you face and the circumstances of the woman and everyone involved in the industry gets you down. Well, maybe this doesn't happen to you, but it seems to happen to me. It will pass given the support system in place this time with MP, BB and the other friends who are in town.
But I go home alone and with only one lay for the day, Mickey at Bandit bar for a so so experience.
I am planning again in this upcoming songkran, My concern was not 4 k bhts, but it was a sheer desperation of what's going inside and the things I heard from people that some of the bars don't allow Indians, As it was my first visit that time, so I was not sure, weather the not allowing Indians inside the Go. Go. Was true or fake.True.
You virtually will not see any Indian faces at any of the popular go-go bars packed with Whiteys and East Asians. There's hardly any room for those people. Last trip, I don't recall any Indian faces at Palace or Tantra. Last year, I saw the doorman reject Indians at Sensations by pointing at their sandals. At some other bar, the doorman demanded a 500 baht cover charge.
Interesting observation: 1 was at Infinity at 10:30. It was dead. A large group of East Asians walked in, looked around, and left. Then several minutes later, I saw large group of Indian types at the front door. They seem to be arguing with the doorman. Then 1 of them walked in, looked around, and then he and the rest left.
I plan on getting a massage then soi 6 then walking street then taking sleeping medication to fix my sleep schedule I think like 10 pm - 6 am would be good.Don't do massage if you already hurt, it might get even worst. Best thing is to spend a few hours in a sauna (stay in the hot room for 10-15 minute, then go out, then enter the hot room again and alternate like that as long as you can but not more than 3 hours). Don't alternate with the cold water or your cramps will last longer. Don't forget to drink a lot of water and eat some juicy fruits as advised by others earlier. This should also help you to have a very good sleep without taking any medication.
Crocodilexp
11-19-18, 19:50
Maybe in a private hospital it will run you 1000 baht, but in a normal clinic it is only 200 or 300. From my doctor on Pattaya Tai it usually costs me 500 with medicine included.Yes, I mean a specialist at a decent private hospital. I find this worth paying, especially when diagnosing a new and potentially complex issue.
For trivial stuff, a clinic might be good enough, or even just going straight to a pharmacist, most are happy to take an educated guess at your ailment given the symptoms you describe.
HorseTrader
11-19-18, 20:55
Wise words, but have no fear that I am developing feelings for her! She is a warm body for me and, for her, I am a temporary refuge from the hell of her life.I have 2 friends who once talked like this. They both married their favored bar girls. The first guy didn't get the legal marriage paperwork, which is good because a couple months later he learned that she was already married and her legal husband was coming after my friend. The second guy got his woman a fiancée visa and brought her back to USA for a legal wedding. That's when her true personality started to show. The marriage lasted only a few weeks and he took her back to Thailand and arranged the divorce without her presence.
Beware of these women. Even the bar girls have charms unknown to western women.
MongerForSex
11-19-18, 21:06
Bangkok is slightly better for quality, yes. However, you need to manage your expectations. Thailand hooker scene has gone downhill over the last few years, and while it still has the quantity, great looking girls who still work in the industry are few and far between. Basically, the best looking sex workers rarely match average Thai girls on the skytrain (public transit) in terms of looks, unless you're specifically into Issan look and don't mind them somewhat trashy.
What Thailand is still good at is a good diversity of venues (freelancers, agogo bars, beer bars, BJ bars, oily massages, soapy massages), safety and ease of use for a foreigner, still some decent attitudes (though this is worse than in the past), and still decent service levels in some venues (Tulip or Snow White are great value for PSE, but there are no lookers there; BJ bars are a great no-brainer option for getting a BJ). The girls are still a bit more relaxed and fun than in many other places (where a session with a hooker is most often heavily constrained, sordid and restrictive)..Thank for your useful info, that helps a lot.
I like kissing girls, because that's what I do before having sex with normal girls or working girls. Because you can know if the girl is good when you kiss her. You are right about naughty girls, 7 years ago, I took a naughty girl, she grabbed my dick, she danced very well, she rubbed her ass on my dick but she did not want to kiss me, I tried to kiss her and she refused she said only in the room When we were in the room it was the worst experience I've had. That's why I always kiss a girl that's the only way I know if I get good vibes from her before having sex with the girl. That's what we most Brazilians do. That's why if you go to brothels in Brazil, you ll see Brazilian guys are not the type to go to the room very fast even if the girl is the hottest.
My plan is to go to Thailand because there are many activities to do and places to visit outside of mongering scene, if I can have good sex with good looking Thais, my trip will be more than perfect. My main reason is not only sex because I don't live in a sex prison.
I plan to stay 6 weeks in Thailand, I will go to Pattaya and Bangkok as you advised, I am sure Pattaya is a fun place even if the quality is not better than that of Bangkok. I checked out some youtube videos about Pattaya and Saigon, I find Vietnamese women more beautiful than Thais but they are more conservative and I am not interested in a serious relationship. Thai women are more open than Vietnamese women.
I've been to China and Hongkong but I did not fuck any Asian woman. I visited many massage parlors and clubs and I find most working women in China are middle aged, fat or / and ugly. I don't say Chinese women are ugly, because I've seen many beautiful Chinese women but they are not hookers, I ent up fucking a Russian woman in China and a Colombian woman in HongKong. I don't speak the language so I can't pick up normal Asian girls and I am also not interested in a serious relationship because they are not sexually open there.
Maybe there are some Vietnamese and Chinese women working in Thailand so that they stay away from people they know, it would be nice if I can fuck some foreign women, (Chinese and Vietnamese women). Maybe they are better looking and as open as thai women.
I have 2 friends who once talked like this. They both married their favored bar girls. The first guy didn't get the legal marriage paperwork, which is good because a couple months later he learned that she was already married and her legal husband was coming after my friend. The second guy got his woman a fiance visa and brought her back to USA for a legal wedding. That's when her true personality started to show. The marriage lasted only a few weeks and he took her back to Thailand and arranged the divorce without her presence.
Beware of these women. Even the bar girls have charms unknown to western women.I think the other thing to be wary of is that anyone can put on a good side and be accommodating for 1 to 4 weeks, because in reality it is the tourist who experience these problems. I think whether a bar girl or not you run the risk of choosing a girl with a bad disposition. The worse thing I have done in Pattaya is repeat with a Gogo girl. She was nice and I did enjoy her company but after 3 sessions in 4 days all of a sudden the line messages started and I was the worse in the world when I told her I wouldn't be seeing her for the 4th night. Was it anger from rejecting her and she had feelings or was it because cash, food, drinks and sleeping in a comfortable bed gone?
In Aussie I grew with the 3 F philosophy, Find 'them, Fuck 'them and Forget 'them. Best to follow that mantra in Thailand.
Rob.
Banana Boi
11-19-18, 23:32
I was the worse in the world when I told her I wouldn't be seeing her for the 4th night. Was it anger from rejecting her and she had feelings or was it because cash, food, drinks and sleeping in a comfortable bed gone?Sorry to be the bearer of bad news but it was definitely not feelings for you or anything else. It was all about the cash and cash only! Easiest way to test any girl if they have true feelings for you is to tell her you would still like to see her but will not be paying her any longer. Let's see how many seconds it takes her to grab her cellphone, purse, shoes, and squid chips.
Sorry to be the bearer of bad news but it was definitely not feelings for you or anything else. It was all about the cash and cash only! Easiest way to test any girl if they have true feelings for you is to tell her you would still like to see her but will not be paying her any longer. Let's see how many seconds it takes her to grab her cellphone, purse, shoes, and squid chips.LOL My belief too. How did you know she had Squid Chips! The night she wanted me to meet her, she was not working, and she found out I barfined one of her colleagues the messages on Line were obscene but she knew I was bar fining her friend before she was even changed LOL.
Blanquiceleste
11-20-18, 01:33
1. Does she adore you? Or is it an act? Don't try to figure that out. You may be disappointed. Just enjoy while you can.
2. It can only be good if you keep it temporary. I know it sounds cynical, but people change as they get comfortable. That hot girl will eventually develop unpleasant wife-like characteristics if things get too comfortable and convenient for both parties.Sage advice here. Enjoy the ride while it lasts. And never get on the same ride more than twice or thrice.
Actually, despite several years of mongering experience and encounters that have gone from good to shit, I wonder why people continue to fall in this trap? Is it something to do with the way people are wired? I mean most of us in our daily lives, hold (or have held) decent jobs or have some other pursuits that require solid rational thinking, analytical skills and objective decision making capability. Yet, in the world we hobby in we tend to fuck it up. It beats me.
Blanquiceleste
11-20-18, 01:39
I think the other thing to be wary of is that anyone can put on a good side and be accommodating for 1 to 4 weeks, because in reality it is the tourist who experience these problems. I think whether a bar girl or not you run the risk of choosing a girl with a bad disposition. The worse thing I have done in Pattaya is repeat with a Gogo girl. She was nice and I did enjoy her company but after 3 sessions in 4 days all of a sudden the line messages started and I was the worse in the world when I told her I wouldn't be seeing her for the 4th night. Was it anger from rejecting her and she had feelings or was it because cash, food, drinks and sleeping in a comfortable bed gone?
In Aussie I grew with the 3 F philosophy, Find 'them, Fuck 'them and Forget 'them. Best to follow that mantra in Thailand.
Rob.
That's the way to do it. And then there are muppets like this one.
https://cambodiaexpatsonline.com/general-chatter/expats-beware-t23495.html
That's the way to do it. And then there are muppets like this one.
https://cambodiaexpatsonline.com/general-chatter/expats-beware-t23495.htmlSo funny. The only thing I am upset about is his name. AussieSteve. Maybr from Austria? LOL.
HorseTrader
11-20-18, 03:44
I think the other thing to be wary of is that anyone can put on a good side and be accommodating for 1 to 4 weeks, because in reality it is the tourist who experience these problems. I think whether a bar girl or not you run the risk of choosing a girl with a bad disposition. The worse thing I have done in Pattaya is repeat with a Gogo girl. She was nice and I did enjoy her company but after 3 sessions in 4 days all of a sudden the line messages started and I was the worse in the world when I told her I wouldn't be seeing her for the 4th night. Was it anger from rejecting her and she had feelings or was it because cash, food, drinks and sleeping in a comfortable bed gone?
In Aussie I grew with the 3 F philosophy, Find 'them, Fuck 'them and Forget 'them. Best to follow that mantra in Thailand.
Rob.I'm sure there are many good women in Thailand, they just don't work in the sex industry. Also be careful with girls that work in the tourism industry (hotels, tour guides, etc), they picked those jobs for a reason.
If you are looking for a Thai woman as a partner, look away from the bars and find a girl from a good family where brothers and sisters are well employed (nurses, accountants, teachers, engineers, business owners, government employees, etc.).
I'm sure there are many good women in Thailand, they just don't work in the sex industry. Also be careful with girls that work in the tourism industry (hotels, tour guides, etc), they picked those jobs for a reason.
If you are looking for a Thai woman as a partner, look away from the bars and find a girl from a good family where brothers and sisters are well employed (nurses, accountants, teachers, engineers, business owners, government employees, etc.).Sound advice. I have been married to an Indo girl for 16 years and same advice in most Asian countries. My opinion on marriage now is why buy the book when you can go to a library?
Sound advice. I have been married to an Indo girl for 16 years and same advice in most Asian countries. My opinion on marriage now is why buy the book when you can go to a library?There is a debate going on the Phil boards about all Asian women are lying sluts vs met a normal girl and lived happily ever after.
Both are correct. Just don't expect to take the bar out of a girl. 😲.
So funny. The only thing I am upset about is his name. AussieSteve. Maybr from Austria? LOL.And his mates watched him do it!
Can't be Aussies. Mine would smack me in the head and tell me to wake up to myself. Literally.
I have 2 friends who once talked like this. They both married their favored bar girls. The first guy didn't get the legal marriage paperwork, which is good because a couple months later he learned that she was already married and her legal husband was coming after my friend. The second guy got his woman a fiance visa and brought her back to USA for a legal wedding. That's when her true personality started to show. The marriage lasted only a few weeks and he took her back to Thailand and arranged the divorce without her presence.
Beware of these women. Even the bar girls have charms unknown to western women.Haha. Again, no reason to be concerned about me. I have already put off several of these women who have expressed their love for me. Fine women all, and I don't discriminate due simply to their bar girl life, but if I give my heart to someone, she may well be the old fashioned Thai girl I will be seeing in 3 days. Virgin until after she met me, there is no doubt in my mind she is ready to commit her life and sole to me. She is part of the reason for my Pattaya Blues that I will be posting about, if I haven't already. If I marry a Thai girl, it will be her.
And his mates watched him do it!
Can't be Aussies. Mine would smack me in the head and tell me to wake up to myself. Literally.His mates must be from somewhere else or he is a nob LOL.
Haha. Again, no reason to be concerned about me. I have already put off several of these women who have expressed their love for me. Fine women all, and I don't discriminate due simply to their bar girl life, but if I give my heart to someone, she may well be the old fashioned Thai girl I will be seeing in 3 days. Virgin until after she met me, there is no doubt in my mind she is ready to commit her life and sole to me. She is part of the reason for my Pattaya Blues that I will be posting about, if I haven't already. If I marry a Thai girl, it will be her.Hawk.
It will be cheaper to visit Thailand 2 to 3 times a year then to commit. Join the bar girl library LOL.
Mr Enternational
11-20-18, 05:55
There is a debate going on the Phil boards about all Asian women are lying sluts vs met a normal girl and lived happily ever after.Why is there even a debate? I would never talk about how much someone that I give money to likes me. As always, if you want to know how someone really feels about you, then show up without money. When hoes say they miss me I always ask do you miss me or do you miss my money? I never have to ask a regular chick that because I don't give them money, so there is no question.
Once again I will tell my story about my buddy in Pattaya that wanted to test his girl out. He acted like he was really sick for a while. His girl waited on him hand and foot, even wiping his ass for him. After that he acted like he was out of money. His girl went and got a job and took care of them both. He knew he had a good one. They are still together. He is I think 71 and she is early 30's.
Kamsutra69
11-20-18, 07:14
You call it Pattaya Blues. I called it the law of diminishing marginal utility. You found that lazy.
It happens. Too much of good thing is difficult to handle too. Here I am sitting at my work desk far away from Pattaya thinking of all the young available pussies there. But while in Pattaya by 4th day (for me) I find myself at Central Festival having lunch by myself at Teppanyaki Miyazaki and checking out movies to watch that afternoon. To be honest I enjoy that too.
Sheesh, I am leaving town in 6 days and I am bombing out! Well, of course I had my choice of hundreds of women, but I was tired.
And this is part of the Pattaya Blues I nearly always experience. When you arrive in Pattaya (or at least when I arrive in Pattaya), you are happy and excited and dying to get out there and bang women, or at least find a woman to bang if you are in to quality before quantity. You have a blast but at the 2/3rd point you get kind of tired, maybe a bit disillusioned as your dreams of a GFE with a super beautiful woman just aren't coming true and the mass of humanity you face and the circumstances of the woman and everyone involved in the industry gets you down. Well, maybe this doesn't happen to you, but it seems to happen to me. It will pass given the support system in place this time with MP, BB and the other friends who are in town.
But I go home alone and with only one lay for the day, Mickey at Bandit bar for a so so experience.
Day 13 – Saturday.
On Saturday I started off on Soi 6 of course, at Jungle Bar. I had met up with Banana Boy at the McDonalds just north of Soi 6 on Second Road and after walking all the way down the street, we came back and went in there. They had a nice bunch of girls there and the bar area was open with lots of room. A pretty girl, Nok, came in with me and followed us to our table, a circular table with room for 4. I forget the exact timing, but a second cute girl, Aoom, either followed us or soon came over. BB looked at me and said she was mine, and I bought LD's for both. Nok had poor English and BB ended up doing some translation. Actually, it may have been then that the second girl, Aoom, entered the scene, to assist with the language. I got on Aoom's bad side when she asked me how old I thought she was and I said 27. She was 24! Haha. Nok was 22. She had a cute face, though damaged with two check piercings, and she had a nice figure and legs. She did have braces, but I noted she also had a pretty firm stomach. Monkey Paw and Phazze93 (a young friend from ISG who is in town to monger) then joined us. I decided to BF my girl but the others were going to hang out. The BF here is 350.
Upstairs, the experience was so so, with some good and some bad. I think she was new to this, having only been in Pattaya for a few months. As such, I think she felt some foreplay with kissing and touching was part of the deal (something the platinum pussies on WS don't seem to care about). So, the session started off slow with some foreplay at least. She had a good handful worth of breast, though at 22 they were already sagging, but at least not stretchy, so they were nice to feel. I did not want her to give me a BJ with all that metal in her mouth, though she never made an attempt to start one. Eventually, I instigated the next step by getting on top between her legs. Now, I very rarely give oral to a hoe. But I checked her pussy and all appeared clean so I did, and that go her rev'the up a bit. I could see the juices in her pussy build up and I was hard as a rock. With a condom rolled on I slowly entered her. She was fairly tight and warm and she seemed to like it. After a bit of missionary we switched to doggy and stayed in that position for a good 10 minutes. She seemed to love it as I plunged deep then shallow, hard and fast, then slow and gentle. After a long while I finally stopped and then we rolled on our sides and cuddled for a good long while. She was a little chilly and pulled her towel over her legs while I kept the rest of her warm. I was about to think she fell asleep, and I didn't want to keep my guys downstairs waiting (not that I knew they were waiting), so I started to stir, which caused her to check her watch and realize it was time to end. She didn't shower (yikes for the next guy) but I hopped in to rinse off and wash the Johnson and rinse out the mouth.
Overall, she was a nice girl but a little shy, hence my so so rating. The kissing was nice, as was the cuddling, and she took my doggie pounding well. She may not want to do oral, but that might be due to the braces, but be nice to her if you choose to see her. I do think she is new to this and by treating her well you will keep her treating us all well.
When I came down, the guys were there eating pizza from Mama's, a place near the end of Soi 6. On Saturday, they have a buy one pizza, get a second pizza free. It wasn't like a Pizza Hut pizza, but it was good and I was hungry and found it delicious. Nok joined us at the table for a LD but refused any pizza. There was a funny moment when off to the side of the room, one of the hot girls walked by. I choked on my pizza watching her, and she cracked a smile and actually brought over a pack of tissues. I would love to BF her!
That evening I meet with BB, MP, and Phazze at Windmill. I did not see anyone invading any girl's privates this time, so it appeared like any normal agogo. The hot spinner lady was there and she came over to sit between me and MP. This girl is petite and hot and gives off sexuality. I am not sure if I could handle her one on one or not! Her fee is 3000 baht ST apparently! Seems expensive, but that is $100 back home, and cheap. But per MP, she might be worth it even here.
Next we go to Palace. You may remember that yesterday I tried to get Tong, the girl I had bar fined who was a star fish, to go with me again but first to agree to at least kiss and touch me. She did not so I refused to BF her. I, with MP and Phazze, then discussed my approach and gave me some, um, constructive feedback and then encouraged me to try again, but with some extra game. I was willing, and upon returning to the club and not seeing her, MP had inquired about her and learned she had been bar fined and may or may not be back. OK, so that was yesterday. Today, soon after we sat down in Palace Tong enters the club, walks by and she taps me on the knee and smiles as she walks past. Later, she come out and sits next to me, saying the mamasan told her I was there last night looking for her. We talked about stuff, like we should have done the first night, and then I offer a LD. I do tell her I was disappointed with the last experience but that I liked her, that I would like to BF her many times and pay what she wants but I need her to kiss and touch and all of that like she was my real GF. She seems to understand and says ok. I said good and that I am ready to BF her right then. I do and the other guys are happy for me.
But I got hustled again. In bed, the two kisses were reluctant, like I was dirty. I had to remind her about the touching. As is, it was just the same old tugging on my Johnson and pinching my nipples. I had a hardon going but I lost it out knowing that I had been hustled again. And if this girl detests me so much why bother? I am at the point I don't even want to bang her. She seems confused when I suddenly stop touching her and rollover on my back. I tell her that if she can't even touch me or let me kiss her then she can leave. She is shocked. I say that I wanted her to be like a GF, then she says she can do all of that but since I am not horny she can't! I say how can I be horny if you won't even tough me? She gently says I need to take erection medication. Sigh. She had me hard a few minutes ago. She acts like she simply doesn't understand and asks if I am going to boom boom her. I say no, not if you can't make me horny. She again says I can't get horny and I need medicine! Argh. This is not getting us anywhere. So I just start asking her about things in general. I mean, I totally switch from sex related stuff and just try to talk as a friend and to open up a bit and gain some sympathy. I am being real, but it doesn't gain any sympathy. She says if I want to talk she will give me her Line, and she did! Haha. Then she said ST was up and she needed to go (it wasn't up, but whatever), asking what I was going to do next. I said probably go back the WS, but for her to go ahead. I was done with her. Fooled me twice, shame on me.
I went back to WS and faced MP and Phazze. Got no sympathy from them! Haha. We split up and I went back to Panda to see if the girl I liked from before was there, but what was her number?? 288 according to MP, but the club was packed and they told me to come back later. I ate some ice cream and watched the smoking magician try to attract a crowd. Eventually he got a couple to stop and that drew in a crowed. I guess the one magician has a son who does it now too. Both will probably die of lung cancer with all the smoking they do.
I didn't keep any more notes for the rest of the night but I think I went to Red Car then home. Oh, I found a vender for some delicious Pad Thai. I didn't use to like it, now I was craving it.
So for the day, in the midst of my Pattaya Blues, I only did one girl today, Nok of Jungle Bar.
To address the anticipated comments, yes I blew it again. I wanted to try however as she was hot and I liked her otherwise. The small odds of getting close to what I wanted with this hot chick was worth the risk, especially when she agreed (IMHO at least) to do them. I could cling to her words that "I can give you want you want if." and go for her again, but I have been played twice now and I doubt that she would have any intention to give me what I want on the third try. She knows I don't live here and if she can play me one more time, she will win again. So yes I lost a ton of money again, but oh well. But for you tourists who want to come to one of these clubs, you need to realize you can be easily played, and that you should try to negotiate everything up front, even if she will touch you. And that is actually crazy.
Chocha Monger
11-20-18, 08:19
I'm sure there are many good women in Thailand, they just don't work in the sex industry. Also be careful with girls that work in the tourism industry (hotels, tour guides, etc), they picked those jobs for a reason.
If you are looking for a Thai woman as a partner, look away from the bars and find a girl from a good family where brothers and sisters are well employed (nurses, accountants, teachers, engineers, business owners, government employees, etc.).The warning about getting involved with sex workers is clear. However, even girls uninvolved in the flesh trade expect some benefit from having a relationship with a foreign man. Young Southeast Asian women are not marrying foreign geezers several decades their senior for their good looks and amusing attempts at speaking the local language. Marriage originated as a survival strategy between men and women. Hence, there is always mutual interest.
In the case of mongers who marry, they are trying to monopolize access to the young woman's pussy. In return, she expects to monopolize access to his financial resources, time, etc. Southeast Asian women are very practical when it comes to such arrangements, and they are aware that Western mongers often balk at their expectations. Therefore, many are adept at showing love struck mongers the illusion of disinterested unconditional love. Mongers fall for it more often than not, thinking they finally found their unicorn.
This explains a bit about the origin of marriage and some of the reasons it is falling out of favor. It may help some mongers understand their mistakes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NSD2WW8xieY
Blanquiceleste
11-20-18, 13:10
So funny. The only thing I am upset about is his name. AussieSteve. Maybr from Austria? LOL.No such luck mate. The name is sydneysteve. I don't think there is a Sydney in Austria. 5555.
Chocha Monger
11-20-18, 14:30
There is a debate going on the Phil boards about all Asian women are lying sluts vs met a normal girl and lived happily ever after.
Both are correct. Just don't expect to take the bar out of a girl. 😲.If a monger met a so-called normal girl and married her but he keeps right on fucking hookers, that is not a happily ever after story. The monger may be living happily because the wife puts up with his philandering out of financial need but her tolerance does not mean acceptance of the situation. Most likely, she repays his infidelity with her own dose of deception and double-dealing. At any time, she may decide to bring the monger's fragile world of happiness crashing down on him. Once she no longer feels like putting up with her philandering foreigner, her lover and / or relatives will act to dispose of him. The wife leaves the home on some errand and conveniently forgets to lock the door and gate behind her while the husband is happily sleeping.
No such luck mate. The name is sydneysteve. I don't think there is a Sydney in Austria. 5555.Bugger. There is a Sydney in Canada!
Day 14 Sunday.
I wake up and realize I have 4 more days in Pattaya and I need to get out of this funk and bang some more women! MP and Phazze are going to have lunch at Hooters, so I joined them. I have full breakfasts at the hotel, but I figured I would have a coke with them. I ended up with curly fries as well. I think Hooters in Pattaya has to be as expensive as in the USA. Waitresses are cute but nothing special. MP and I head to Soi 6 and go in to Night Wish. We both find girls to BF. I like Ail. She is a larger girl but still well proportioned. She is 22, but when naked her A breasts were exposed. She gave an incomplete shower, but at least she liked to kiss. Her BJ was short but she loved doggie. She did try really hard to get me to come and I finally had to stop her. Why couldn't Tong, who was 4 x the cost, try a little harder like this girl?? MP had chosen Ton to BF. He scared me for a second about us all sharing a single room! Haha. I might have been willing if we could have shared the girls!
He was waiting when I came down. Ail and I had done some cuddling at the end, which is always nice. He was done, but I walked with him to the west end of the street to see him off, and for me to get a start and heading back for another girl. In walking back past Halifax Bar an older but relatively attractive lady was calling for me. She sort of looks familiar so I stop and she asks if I remember her. Ummmmm She says she is An. Ohhh, this is the lady I mentioned as being a favorite from a year ago! Ok, she is much darker now from what I recall, but yeah. She is a shapely mature woman, now 38 she said, but with other than some baby damage to the stomach, is not too bad for her age, plus she has the wisdom of knowing how to get a guy off. Of course I have to get reacquainted with GFE An, even if she is getting up in years. So in we go and then we go upstairs and she once again rocked my world.
I will save the details but I left exhausted and happy. She is the queen of BBBJs and, while I still have to say I have never come from a BJ in Thailand, she got me sooooo close several times. No, she is not a spring chicken, but for us older dudes she can be that GFE. And for the younger dudes, she will show you some tricks the younger ladies may not know.
After An I returned to the hotel to rest up for the evening and try to finish some lagging reports.
That evening I met up with MP and Phazze on WS. We first went to Panda and there were a few girls that were ok, but this is Sunday, and Sunday and Monday are the slow nights with the most girls absent. We then went to Bacarra for a nice lineup and Phazze eyes a girl he may want to BF. Next, we went to Happy with a subpar lineup, then to Fahrenheit, with a small stage with just 7 girls at a time. We saw no one all that impressive. Then to Palace. It was busy and again had the best girls overall, at least at the 5 or so bars MP hunts in the most. I do not see Tong so she probably took the day off. Then we go back to Bacarra where MP breaks away and I stay with Phazze who eventually decides to pick a girl who I fully agree is one of the hottest ones there. With his girl picked out I leave, not fully sure what to do. The bad taste of lazy, high priced agogo girls is still on my mind and I am not yet ready to try one again. I eat some pad Thia from a food cart vender then go to Red Car. But I am not feeling it and I am tired so I go to the hotel to sleep.
So, this turned into another Pattaya Blues day, but I had a rocking time with Soi 6 woman An at Halifax.
Sorry for a bummer report. It gets better tomorrow.
Steve 9696
11-21-18, 15:50
FLHawk man 14 days! I think it clearly leads to being jaded by all the available pussy. Any day you have a top notch BBBJ and that elusive GFE is a good day!
Glad to hear day 15 went well. Looking forward to it.
Quick Recap days 1+2 were bad everything else was good.
Bad Days:
Day 1: Sleep deprived and both calf hurt. Brought back ladyboy from beach road. I ask to check ID I'm fucking autistic and thought if she was willing to show ID she couldn't be a LB and didn't do research before hand on how to read IDs its super fucking easy it says Mr. If its a guy. Went back to hotel receptionist didn't tell me shit. Learn my lesson never go beach road again. Damage: 1100 to make ladyboy leave me alone.
Day 2: Couldn't walk without pain. Got a calf massage. Bad idea made it worse. Went to Soapie PP Body Massage at like 12 pm. Very disappointing only 3 ladies there. I picked one 30 very stuck up a lot of rules, no touching face during sex, no FIV, germaphobic, complained alot, wanted to charge 500 more baht for another shot. 90 minute session only ended up being a 60 minute one. Bad experience. Got stuck in rain. Got back at hotel 4:00 pm passed out until 5 am. Damage: 2120.
Good Days:
Day 3: Told my hotel receptionist my problem. Gave me advise to go see public hospital because its cheap. Go to Pattaya city hospital on the baht bus route. Filled with Thai people there and like 4 farangs. Total time took like an hour to see doctor. Everyone spoke English well enough to get me sorted. Got medicine. Damage 610 (500 to see doc, 110 for like 3 different medications). Very good experience I wish I would've done this the first thing I did.
For the following damage math is ST+BF+Drinks sometimes I wouldn't even buy drinks just go straight to ST.
Went to Soi 6 "Toybox? (idk if that's the name it's something like that") damage 1610 (1000+400+210) 8/10 girl was new I think didn't speak that much English pretty good sex.
Soi 6 Ruby Club 1500 (1200+300) 8. 5/10 was good.
Day 4: Soi 6 Ruby Club same girl dragged me in for sex again 1500 (1200+300) 8. 5/10 same as before I now learned to either decline or try to avoid getting dragged in bars.
Soi 6 Bulldogbar 1500+400+270 I don't fucking know why this cost so much girl said she only fucks Asian guys or some shit and charges them 3 k prob lying. Sex: 8. 5/10.
Day 5: Visited walking street asked around for prices typically 1-1. 5 k for BF and 3-4. 5 k for ST. This was before midnight so prices are prob higher. Also went to FL clubs like insomnia and red car, learned its not for me. Went to soi 6 "Where angels play" damage: 1400 (1000+400) 9/10, "Nightwish" damage 1510 (1000+400+110) 9. 5/10.
During Nightwish visit (like 12 amish) the cops came and I had to finish early. Another bargirl came up to the room knocking and speaking thai. My girl told me to be quiet and threw out all condoms made the bed nice and dressed up. I left asked other farang what's going on he point the popo who were pretty far away.
I asked my veteran friend who messaged a soi 6 girl on line and apparently the cops were looking for bribes or some shit and checking to make sure all the girls were of age, licenses were right, no drug use. Where there any cases of tourist getting in trouble because of cops?
Alright so in total of the trip I went from wanting to jump off my balcony to having a lot of good sex so its pretty good. Important things to take away: go see doctor if you need it. Learn bus baht routes, don't be afraid to ask for prices before going in and buying drinks just to find out you don't want to pay that much money, 7/11 is always open and has pretty decent food, street food is aii I like the street food that is set up in its only little area with multiple vendors not just the single guy with the kart if that makes sense. Oh yea another important thing the girls will not always bring condom / lube so it's important to bring like 2-3 condoms and a bottle of lube. No problems with violence or theft from locals or tourist only danger I had is riding the motorcycle at night with no helmet in the rain pretty spooky.
CoolDude27
11-22-18, 10:04
Respected Seniors,
Kindly guide me to Locate a Hotel in Pattaya where we can get in house Service rather then Search out and take them to Hotel. We will be a Group of 4 people.
Looking for your help.
Regards,
CD.
Day 14 Sunday.
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She did try really hard to get me to come and I finally had to stop her. Why couldn't Tong, who was 4 x the cost, try a little harder like this girl??
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We saw no one all that impressive. Then to Palace. It was busy and again had the best girls overall, at least at the 5 or so bars MP hunts in the most. I do not see Tong so she probably took the day off.
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So, this turned into another Pattaya Blues day, but I had a rocking time with Soi 6 woman An at Halifax.
Sorry for a bummer report. It gets better tomorrow.I think you are being way too tough on yourself on the "Top Quality"/4 x the cost girl issue, FLHawk. Do you have a reason to believe MP or anyone else in his circle gets any more of a warm and cuddly genuine or simulated GFE with those girls than you did with Tong? Actually, that isn't even something I have read MP state as the reason he woos, entertains, courts, cajoles, games and overpays those girls.
Here is the reason he has stated:
Isn't that what we all strive for? To walk around with the hottest pussy following side by side, so that others can envy what we have, even for a moment.On MP's own clearly stated terms, YOU achieved the exact same thing he strives for by overpaying those "Top Quality" girls the moment you strutted through the bar with her after paying her barfine, strolled down WS or wherever on the way to your hotel, walked through your hotel lobby, rode the elevator up to your hotel room and walked down the hall to your room door. You should realize you are apparently expecting far more from those kinds of girls than even MP himself expects to ever get from them.
On MP's own clearly stated terms, YOU achieved the exact same thing he strives for by overpaying those "Top Quality" girls the moment you strutted through the bar with her after paying her barfine, strolled down WS or wherever on the way to your hotel, walked through your hotel lobby, rode the elevator up to your hotel room and walked down the hall to your room door. You should realize you are apparently expecting far more from those kinds of girls than even MP himself expects to ever get from them.I don't strut. When I am with these ladies I am not thinking how much better they make ME look, or how they will help me get other hot women in the subsequent days, weeks, months and years. I am only thinking about how I hope their beauty will be sufficient to get me off finally!
Day 15 - Monday.
Well, I have only three days left to monger. I need to leave the blues behind me and get on with it! There is a growing chance this could be my last trip to Pattaya, and at my age I know I am running out of time. There is some age when you just can't do it anymore, and I have enough older friends who have had prostate issues where sex is behind them, so I need to wake up and get to today some ladies while I still can!
I started off on Soi 6, the one place where the girls will actually work for their money, ending up with Film at Roxy. The pronunciation is more like feilm, with a strong E sound. She was a large lady, relatively, but did not present the appearance of being chubby. She did have braces and, upstairs, revealed a really nice set of large, firm natural boobs! She was a little embarrassed by them but I thought they were wonderful. Big firm natural boobs on a Thai girl, amazing. I told her to go slow on the BBBJ and she did, and she did a fine job. She "fit" really well with me and the experience was nice. Her boobs were worth the price of admission.
I then met up with Banana Boy and we walked the street but the talent available on this Monday afternoon was not the greatest. We left and went to McDonanld's for ice cream, then he left and I went back to the street. I still didn't see much else and ended up with Lucky Noi at Lucky Bar. I had promised her another round so I finally kept my promise. She has big fake boobs and is a little more filled out than I would normally like, and the braces make her face less attractive, but she is usually able to get me off. But this time she was a bit less active and I think I could have gotten off with a bit more work, but MP got me in touch with the hot Windmill girl, and I thought maybe I should hold back on my precious orgasm and say if for Dear, her name. I figure I have one for-sure orgasm left in me before I leave, and decide it is best to give it to a deserving woman. It is the pits to be unable to come with a hottie, so I will sacrificed this orgasm with reliable Noi for the hopes of a hottie like Dear, or perhaps another hot agogo girl. Well, yeah, sure! Haha. Ain't going to ever happen. Feel hot agogo girls deserve my juice.
Noi was confused why I didn't come, but I said I am old. I left her and then saw Jin. She will be bar fining herself tonight to go home for a day, catching a ride with a married couple she said. She was sad to learn I am leaving Thursday. She had been planning on me to long-time her and go places. I considered bar fining her right there, in which case I would pay the fine for her and take her to the hotel and get in that orgams, and I mentioned my bar fining her but she didn't understand what I was saying, then I thought better of my offer and didn't repeat it. If I took her, she would be expecting me to see her again Wednesday night before I leave as well. That is too many times with the same woman! And I don't want to encourage her to have feelings for me that cannot be returned.
By this time the gang was planning to meet so I went to WS. It had been raining and all I had was a pocket rain coat. I decided to first buy an umbrella as it was forecast to rain later that night, and I am so glad I did! But first we went exploring. I guess this is what MP does each evening visit a few agogo and search for new talent. But as we started, he all of a sudden said he needed to go home for something, so Phazze and I went back to Windmill. My displeasure for this place as lessened a bit as I have not seen any crass conduct like that first time. I had actually Lined the hottie but missed out on seeing her Sunday. She saw me and Phazze enter as she was dancing and recognized me, or us, and smiled. I went over to say Hi and get her name, as even MP did not know it! During her break she came over and I got her a LD. This is one buzy girl. After work she goes to Insomnia to get picked up LT and sleep a long time with customer, then back to work. I told her if she had time to contact me. The alternative is to BF her, but I wasn't ready to do that.
MP showed up then we left for Sensations, where he bar fined a really cute girl. She was new and she was pretty hot, and he likes to BF the new, hot girls at one of this favorite clubs and show them off. So we went to Palace. But first, Tong was there and she came by and said Hi. I said Hello, back. She then made a motion with her hands asking for a LD. I wavered for a second as I like her, but ten purse my lips together and shake my head, saying no. She immediately turns her head and walks off. She knows what she did and that the gravy train from me was over.
It is here that things got fun. MP exchanged 1000 baht (all three of us shared costs) for 50 20's. He got the waiters to give us 3 rubber bands and showed how to fold them up into projectiles that we could shoot at the girls. Well, I was thinking this had to be degrading to the girls and was reluctant to do it. Phazze refused and gave me his third of the bills. MP was shooting them off and at first the girls didn't know what was happening, then a little scared at being hit, then it was all smiles. When his girl started shotting them too, I started too and I was giggling like a kid. So much fun, and the girls on stage loved it. Is this a crazy thing to do? Absolutely, but when I say the girls were having too, then it was ok and I have a great time. It was literally throwing money away, but it was a great way to spend the equivalent of about $10.
But it was getting time to choose someone. I picked a girl who looked young, tall and quite attractive. I had the waiter call her over and her name was something line Meal. I failed to check the check to see how to spell the name. She was new, it was her third day working there and, apparently, working in this line of work ever. She did not have a wrist showing her number, so unless I get back to Palace and has one, much of this review about her may be useless to her (or ask MP if he is present when you are might visit). But I am not sure if she wants to be with me as she is does not touch or anything, and in the high noise environment it is difficult for me to hear and understand her. But she is sitting next to MP's friend and they seem to be hitting it off, and his friend seems to be ok with me, so I hope she can say a good word, though she is new and doesn't really know about MP, so I don't know. Phazze is about to BF a hottie and the pressure is on me to make a selection. I finally ask her if she would to go LT with me / us and I get the "it is up to you". Well, no it is up to you for I wouldn't ask if I didn't want to. " But I don't get a yes from her, then it is her time to go dance, even though I had just bought her another drink. Since she is new, she dances at the rear of the club, and we were in the rear of the club so she was right in front of me. She is not exactly looking at me, and I figure I bombed out. But with Phazze's girl now in street clothes, and her dance round over, she comes back and I ask her for LT, saying we are all going out together to see a show, and does she want to LT me. She indicates yes and actually now seems a little excited. MP's friend may have had a little to do with it.
I had an issue with the mamsan. The BF for LT was 1500 and I gave her 2000 bhat, expecting change. It didn't come. We sent for the mamasan and she claimed I only gave her 1500. There was another lady with her who nodded in agreement. I sure don't remember having any 500's, but then I didn't specifically check them. I know there was a 1000 note but I can't swear the other wasn't. It was an argument I couldn't win and I cursed myself for not checking. In many bars they confirm with you when you give them a large bill so there is no misunderstanding. At a club like Palace and with the mamasan knowing MP, I can't really think I got cheated however. Just be sure to always double check the cash you hand out.
It is raining outside, so my decision to buy that umbrella was wise. We head out in the rain and go to the show at Sensations (I think). It is a whisper of a Circa-du-whatever show. But MP, true to his spirit for fun, gets another 50 20-baht bills and rubber bands, and the same thing happens. So funny, and all were laughing.
We leave and the rain has eased. Meal surprises us saying she has a car. The others were going to take a taxi, but MP says she can take all of us. Well, her car is several blocks from the club, and it is in a lot where several cars have to be moved so that she can get out. MP jokes that he could have been home already had he taken the taxi. Finally we get out and we end up driving through an Indian clubbing district with Indian disco music, then eventually we are on second road. MP is giving directions and he has her turn into a parking are by that little mall across from Soi 13, but we can't get though and have to turn back. We turn back off of Second Road to get Pazze home as well as MP, and we seem to drive and drive and drive. With everyone dropped off, we turn back toward Second Road. Meal says she is hungry so we stop at a 7-11, then we eventually end up at my hotel.
We go in and I get a big grin from the security guy. Upstairs, we eat while she is constantly checking her phone. And I intermittently get her story of how she came to start this job. I will spare the details, but she is a farmer of sorts, owing a bunch of ducks and sheept and stuff. Apparently her parents lost a bunch of her money. She also has a 7 why / o son (she is 27, though I thought she was 22), and though the father is the typical deadbeat dad, his parents help look after him and are spoiling him. With her farm in disarray, she has him in an international school. She is dismayed that he is only wants to eat western food and has to live in air conditioning, etc. And to pay all the bills, she has taken up this business. Her time on the phone seems family related, even though it is now about 3 AM.
It is time for her to shut up and get to work, however, and I hate being blunt like that as I feel bad, but this was her decision to enter this line of work, and if I am her first or one of the first, she should be lucky it is with me as I am so patient and understanding. But she is in bed, both of us naked under the covers. I have been moving closer to her and touching her and feeling her slowly and gently, while she is talking to me and checking her phone, but even she realizes it is finally time to get to work.
FL Hawk's Law: Within bounds, the performance of a woman is inversely proportional to the cost.
FL Hawk's Law was again confirmed. What a star fish. No kissing. She hated it. She did rub my Johnson, but she otherwise just laid there. I considered giving up, as I don't like to feel like I am forcing myself of anyone. But I got out the condom and put it on and she then opened her legs to me. Once we got started she actually got a little wetter and she moaned. I got her to turn over for doggie then back to missionary. But otherwise she just laid there. I finally just gave up and rolled over. She asked if I finished. No. I then went to into the bathroom and seemed surprised when I took a shower. I think she knew I was not happy, but unlike a good Soi 6 girl, and like most all of the high priced agogo girls, there was no offer to improve the situation. She at least stayed the night, but had told me she was going to leave at 6 AM, as she needed to get back to open up something for her sister as she had the only key.
She actually left at 6:45 AM, and she showed me the key, which was some kind of electronic key, so she may have been telling me the truth. And she showed me a picture of a sheep her sister sent her who died. She remained friendly and talkative the whole time, but she stunk at her new job.
So two duds from Palace. Beautiful ladies who, for me and my selections at least, are horrible at their jobs and should be avoided unless you like banging girls who hate to touch you. I am anxious now to compare notes with Phazze. Is is just me, my age? Are these girls used to the Japanese and Chinese people who really do simply want to bang a hot girl and don't care about the other stuff? Meal, like Tong, could have been so hot and stimulating, but instead they just create frustration, at least with me.
Anyway, to summarize the day, I at least stepped up my game and had three women. First Film at Roxy for some amazing large Thia breasts, then a repeat with Lucky Noi then Mean from Palace.
Day 16 - Tuesday.
I am in Bangkok on Day 18 as I post this (as well as the previous report and likely the final mongering report of Day 17). After today I will be with my Thai GF and probably unable to respond to any remarks until I return home in a few weeks. So, sorry that I am bunching up reports here, but if not today, then not for several weeks.
Two days left. I am doing well on my finances despite dropping, who knows, around 10,000 baht yesterday. Crazy, I know, but memories are being made and this is probably the last time in my life I will get to experience some of this, so I don't care. I worked hard all my life; money is not a major concern of mine; I have forgone pleasures in the past to save for travel and retirement; and that time is now. I am not getting younger and each month that goes by is a month closer I am to being unable to do this kind of thing anymore. Heck, I can barely come in a condom anymore!
Two days left and at 2:30 PM we are having a Thunderstorm when I should be on Soi 6 mongering! Some say during the rain is the best time as there are so few customers, but I also only got 2 to 3 hours of sleep last time, so my body is begging for a nap, and with the outside sky dark, I am now giving in. Probably better to rest now and push myself too hard. I would hate to have a tumble from being tired on these dangerous sidewalks that I think were designed to trip and maim the old and weak.
I slept a bit over an hour and the rain has ended so I arise so I prepared to hit Soi 6 as well as to be prepared to go direct to WS that night. So, I need money. I figure I will see anywhere from 1 or 2 girls on six, so I need at about 3200 baht. On WS, I can't see the gross throwing away of money again, but should I long-term someone, it could me 6500 plus drinks and the 5 bars MP likes to hang with add another 700, which is 3200 plus 7200 or rounded up 10,400 baht or about $400 (rounding up). So I pull out $600 from the safe. Typically at the end of the mongering day I have a fair amount of left over cash, but this morning I have only 240 baht, which means I barely had enough to pay Meal last night!
So I hit Soi 6 and with the rain the weather is cool. I have actually been blessed with good weather for this trip. I have not needed to use any sun screen; rain has only been a minor nuisance during the day and only a bit disruptive yesterday with Meal and the gang. In past visits the sun had been out and it was quite hot and sticky.
But I hit the street and let this slightly cubby girl pull me in, named Jaan, at a bar I don't remember. Not sure why I went in. Maybe it was her pouty face. But I quickly realized I needed to extricate myself as her English was non-conversational; the seemed sad; and she was chubby. My failure to exchange dollars for baths upon arriving on 6 got me out gracefully. I barely had enough Thai money to pay for our drinks, then I said I said I needed to go exchange money and I never went back. I am not so sure why she was said, as I was able to learn she is leaving the next day to go back home to see her baby daughter. So many of these girls turn to this profession because they get pregnant with a boyfriend, he leaves without providing any support, and the baby is left to the grandmother to raise while she sends money home. I told her, via Google translate, Thai women need to stop having sex with their men until the fathers are required to pay child support! Of course, it is not so simple.
After replenishing my supply of baths I went to Playpen. They have added some new girls to up their linup, and one little hottie was Boom. She was slender and tall with bleached hair. I liked her, but she was a little difficult to understand. I bought her a drink I started to inquire about ST. She said some things I didn't understand, though I made out something about ST then about LT in Bangkok and some other things I couldn't piece together, but eventually I asked her to go upstairs. She refused, and then said "I now know you didn't hear me with all the loud music but I tried to tell you I can't be bar fined now. " Well, ok. I guess she meant some dude had already long-timed her and was taking her to Bangkok, and she was apparently waiting for him to leave. In the meantime, she was hustling drinks from me! Well bummer! She was cute, so some of you should get over there and check her out and let me know what I possibly missed!
As the day passes Soi 6 is gets busy. I think most of the girls are here and high season has started! I walked back to the east and Lynn, the tiny lady I wrote about last week who was a dynamo, brings me in. She was one of the few who had made me come so I went inside to buy her a drink at least. She was excited and tried hard to get me upstairs, but I had heard from Dear (pronounced more like De ah), the hot spinner from Windmill, that she is able to see tonight. I write back and ask when. But with the possibility of banging of this sexy woman, I put Lynn off. Why waste my last two days with repeats, even though Lynn was worth repeating? I delayed a bit then hearing nothing from Dear, I head west and find Kan at Lust Bar. She is a more mature woman. I bar fined her and she turned out to be an average performer for Soi 6. She had bolt-ONS that were hard and, unlike many of the more mature women, skipped the foreplay. Maybe a 7 for her face, 6 for body and 5 to 6 for performance.
It was then time to head to WS. I met up with MP, Phazze and Lew at Bacarra. Phazze had his hot girl from the night before with him, so he was already set. We then moved to Palace. While there, Tong (the high priced star fish who suckered me twice – and that is "suckered", not "sucked") walked past and we exchanged half-smiles. I kind of think she may have had some regrets now, but who knows. I later saw Meal in the back and went over to say Hello, but she seemed distant. I returned to my seat, but later went back to invite her for a LD which she accepted. She was in pain as a dog did something to around her inside shoulder joint, and she seemed to say it was difficult to speak. In short, she remained distant and barely looked at me. She may have been scared I was going to want to BF her or whatever, which I wasn't, but the group was preparing to leave so we left her alone to finish her drink. I wished her a good evening and improved heath. I did inquire with Phazze if his high priced Palace girl gave a good performance, I. E. Blow job, and he said yes. Sigh. Must be my age.
But at the next bar, MP unloaded on me a big, telling me I can't just lay there and expect the girl to initiate everything. He felt I should have been in there trying to go down on them and stuff and get them horny by my own actions, and not just lie there myself and then complain they won't do anything. Well, maybe. Perhaps, being near the same age as the girls, and being a regular there, he can get away with that. I did try some kissing and touching but the reaction was anything but them getting horny. MP can't yet possibly know or appreciate the impact that being old has on young, hot, popular women! And I can understand the women! I see other old men in the bars trying to touch them and I recoiling myself at the thought of a beautiful young woman having to subject then selves to that. For that matter, I watched a few guys, stinking cigarette in their mouth, grabbing girls, pinning them and forcibly touching them as the girls turned away. The guys thought it was great fun, and the fact the girl might then go out with you (for money) doesn't mean it was not repulsive to the girl. But I am moralizing here.
I am now biding my time for Dear She wrote back and we were to meet between 10 to 11, then it was to be at 12, then 11:30 to 12:30, then is was back 12 where it stayed. Eventually we met at about 12:15 on WS and we went to a short time hotel for 490 Baht. She was hot, but a big see-section scare ruined her stomach view. But the rest of the view was awesome and the scare didn't matter. Her bot-ONS actually had some softness and were not objectionable. Her figure was tight and everything was firm, though she was now 31. She works all the time, like 7 days a week at Windmill, then each night hitting I-Bar for more customers. She took this day off to do some things, but after me she was going to go home, do some more things, then head back to I-Bar for more customers. This woman has to making a ton of money, but at 31, her professional years are numbered.
The session was passionate at least. It started off a little rushed but ended slow. She displays care and compassion which was a little unexpected. Go to Windmill to check her out. Your best way of taking her out is to simply bar fine her from Windmill. Be nice and respectful. She is making enough money she does not have to see you!
After Dear, I walked up and down WS, and almost went home, but then I though NO, I have to try again, I only have one more night beyond this! So I returned to my stomping ground at Red Car. It was around 1:30 to 2 AM by now and the peak had passed and I found table. I saw several prospects but people started leaving and I was running out of opportunities. I know many of the ladies who don't get men will go to one of the other discos, but I did see a sort of girl next door lady of early 30's, I think. She was dancing alone and had a huge smile. I looked at her for a while then she started looking a me. We exchanged several glances until I finally walked over to say Hello,. After a bit she asked what I wanted, so rather than give a dumb answer like "world peace", I said "to be with you all night". She laughed and, well, she did spend the night with me. She did ask what I would give her. I said 2000. She asked for 3000, but I stuck with 2000.
Her name was Kan and she gave a sort of GFE. She loved to kiss and I did go down on her and she went wild. I think I gave her a couple of orgasms but, of course, none for me. Her breasts were small but she had large areolas. Her body was in the early aging process and the hips a little large, but she was still attractive and relatively slender and pretty. She stayed until around 9 AM them left. She was fun to be with once.
To summarize the day, Kan at Lust Bar for an average encounter, then Dear freelancing form Windmill for a semi-passionate encounter, and Kan, a Red Car freelancer, for a sort-of-semi-GFE.
Mr Enternational
11-22-18, 14:28
I told her, via Google translate, Thai women need to stop having sex with their men until the fathers are required to pay child support! Of course, it is not so simple.Why not try to teach them to be more responsible and say Thai women need to stop having sex until they learn how to use birth control? Child support and perpetual welfare have ruined my country and do not do a dern thing except promote irresponsibility. If Thai women were able to get paid when they have kids then they may never stop having them (same as many American women).
Mr Enternational
11-22-18, 15:15
I think Hooters in Pattaya has to be as expensive as in the USA.And that is exactly why the only time I have been there was when they first opened up. I paid 80 baht for a 7 baht bottle of water. (What other restaurant in Pattaya charges 80 baht for water?) And I paid 400 baht for some cold wings that took 1 hour to get to my table. When I had placed my order the place was empty then started to fill up with people. Never again!
Why not try to teach them to be more responsible and say Thai women need to stop having sex until they learn how to use birth control? Child support and perpetual welfare have ruined my country and do not do a dern thing except promote irresponsibility. If Thai women were able to get paid when they have kids then they may never stop having them (same as many American women).https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2013/jul/29/don-lemon/cnns-don-lemon-says-more-72-percent-african-americ/
Why not try to teach them to be more responsible and say Thai women need to stop having sex until they learn how to use birth control? Child support and perpetual welfare have ruined my country and do not do a dern thing except promote irresponsibility. If Thai women were able to get paid when they have kids then they may never stop having them (same as many American women).Thai parents are at fault, in not forcing their daughters to take birth Control pills, instead preaching abstinence (we know how well that works). At least girls should be taught about morning after pill, if they "unintentionally" had sex. 555. Some girls cannot afford to buy it. Some cannot bear the shame of going into the pharmacy and asking for it. Pharmacy knows the girls parents. Etc. Girls should have condoms in handbag too. Thai girls should be made to swear an oath to tell the parents if sex occurred so that something can be done about it (within 24 hours). Perhaps all girls should be having an emergency supply of morning after pills.
I know one Thai girl whose son arrived as a result of her being raped. So why no morning after pills? Thais leave it to fate!
I have emergency supplies of various medications, not to use generally, but of course I don't need this particular type. I have forced a Thai bargirl to take "morning after" after a condom accident. I don't want an unwanted baby to be due to me.
I don't know if pregnancy rates are all that much higher than western teenage girls. The big difference is a 16 YO western girl probably gets an abortion. Most Thai girls do not.
Some teenage girls are getting pregnant on purpose in an attempt to capture the man. I seen this in case of my GF's cousin, a nice young guy, but trapped into marriage by the girl (not good enough for a long term partner or for a mother) irresponsibly getting herself pregnant. In old fashioned society, the penalty for fucking a girl or spending the night, can be marriage. Thai lakhorns show how guy and girl get stuck somewhere for the night in a massive storm, then he has to do the right thing and take her permanently. Ha ha! She might have been a terrible fuck or he might not have even got one.
Thinking back to tales of long gone by, perhaps Thai girls would be safer if locked up in Chastity belts.
We could also suggest ass fucking if it were not for this being a larger risk for HIV.
Day 17 - Wednesday.
FINAL MONGERING DAY.
Ok, the end is finally upon me. This visit has been my longest by several days and despite a few days of the blues, I have had perhaps my best and most enjoyable visit yet. I was initially concerned about booking such a long stay, but folks such as Banana Boy and Monkey Paw, who graciously shared their time and experience, has made it a great trip.
I started out my mongering day with Yri at Ruby. She was a hot spinner with jet black hair, a killer body (she was not a mommie), dang cute face and pretty good English. They only flaw was her small boobs. Upstairs, she was a bit rushed, but gave a decent BBBJ. She is probably one of the hotter girls on Soi 6, though a bit a bit rushed and with no cuddling at the end. Even so, especially with her beauty, she beats anything I have yet encountered from an agogo girl. The rooms at Ruby are decent, amongst the best. When we came down it had started raining so I stayed inside and bought Yri a second LD. While there, a cute girl walked by and said Hello, saying she was Bea and we had been together before. I apologized for apparently not recognizing her, and asked when I saw her. She said maybe a month ago. I don't see a Bea in my reports for this visit, but the name kind of sounds familiar so maybe it was last spring. I don't know, but she was cute and I bought her a LD too. She sat with me after Yri had left to go up front searching for the next customer.
I met up with MP at Night Wish and he chose to BF a lady from there, but despite it being a busy night, I saw no one else that I particularly wanted to BF. I did stop is to say Hello, to Jin at Horny Bar. She was feeling ill, and she looked ill. She said she was going to BF herself to go home and rest. I suggested that I BF her and she could go stay in my hotel while I went out with my friends. She took me up on my suggestion. I had my own reasons for doing this. I was hoping to get at least one more crack at a hot agogo girl, where I would take her to a short time room on WS. And knowing I would likely be unable to come, I could then come back to Jin and, if she was feeling then she could be my last and I could probably come with her.
I took her back to the hotel and she laid down on the bed to nap before taking a shower. I took the opportunity to lock up some things I didn't want to risk her discovering. I was not too concerned about her stealing things, but I didn't want her to see my stash of mongering supplies in case she decided to go through my stuff. I did arrange some things in a particular manner so that I could tell if she did any snooping and I could tell later than she did not.
I left her in bed and headed to WS. I hooked up with MP at Palace. I did unexpectedly run into Meal in the open toilet area (I am slowly getting used to taking a wiz with ladies walking in and around), and I asked how her shoulder / arm was. She said it was better, telling how a dog caused it. No, I don't understand either, but I said I was happy it was getting better then said goodbye. She sure is cute and I continued to feel the frustration. At least I got to bang her, even though it was not exactly pleasurable.
Not really seeing anything I liked at Palace we went to Panda. There we found the cutie I had spoken with before and who had told me to come back to her when I had had to leave at the time. I thought sure she wanted me to BF here then. I called her over and I don't think she remembered me, but we had a decent conversation then I asked if I could BF her. She said no. Huh!? She said she didn't BF. Well, ok, she is just hustled me for drinks! She stuck around until the waiter came back by to see if I wanted to buy her a third lady drink and I said no, not if she won't go out with me! She soon left to hustle someone else I suppose. But, of course, I suppose she does go out on BFs with those she likes, or if she is short of money. But maybe I was too old or whatever, who knows?
I did find another girl there but I forget her name and number. Without a name or number a review about her is almost meaningless. She was expensive but was reasonably attractive I suppose, with a nice tight, slender body. We did a ST hotel and I got an average Soi 6 experience from her at least. She is certainly not top end agogo material, but at least she was not a star fish.
I went directly back to the hotel after that and Jin was still sleeping. She got up to take a shower. I took a shower following and we both went to bed. She said she felt better but I could tell she was still ill. She cuddled up to me and made a move to where I think she would have let me bang her, but I didn't. I am not fond of banding women who are ill just to satisfy my physical desires. Plus, was she contagious?
So we went to sleep. Next morning we went down to breakfast but she was still a bit under the weather. I said she could come back up to the room to rest for another 2 hours before I had to scheck out but she said she needed to get to the bar, as they are getting new outfits and she wanted time to make sure hers fit. This woman has a job she hates but she still treats it as a regular job, with dedication. So she had me walk her to the street to catch a baht bus. She did not look at me for money nor ask me from anything. I offered to pay the bus fee but she said she had it covered.
I checked out at noon, then sat in the lobby to await the arrive of my Bell bus van scheduled to arrive at 12:30. MP came by to send me off which I appreciated, and the transfer van arrived at 12:40 and we said our goodbyes. Very nice of him to do that. And that ends my reporting for this fall trip of 2018.
Mr Enternational
11-22-18, 16:47
At least girls should be taught about morning after pill, if they "unintentionally" had sex. 555. Some girls cannot afford to buy it.Can't afford a 50 baht pill, but can afford to feed, clothe, and care for a kid for 18 years?
Some cannot bear the shame of going into the pharmacy and asking for it. Pharmacy knows the girls parents. Etc. But can bear the shame of walking around the pharmcist, parents, friends, and the rest of the entire world with a big belly and later a kid that does not know where its father is?
Makes no sense at all. This is not just Thai society. This is pretty much most of the world. I believe everyone has the right to have kids, but the responsibility to care and provide for them comes along with that right. That is why I feel nothing when people come up to me with babies and kids in tow begging for money. You knew the consequences of that dick and you can't seriously expect me to pay for it.
I don't strut. When I am with these ladies I am not thinking how much better they make ME look, or how they will help me get other hot women in the subsequent days, weeks, months and years. I am only thinking about how I hope their beauty will be sufficient to get me off finally!Good for you. Neither do I. But MP says that is what he is striving for when he barfines that level of girls. You think FLHawk's Law, the one you have repeated several times with regard to the more expensive girls, only applies to FLHawk, older dudes like me and shy types? Nope. It applies to virtually every punter out there.
The only reason some of those guys finish faster or more easily with those show pieces is because they are more predisposed to cum faster and easier anyway. I doubt very seriously it is because those same girls suddenly change their spots and go the extra mile for them, work harder or are somehow iirresistably inspired to go at it with dogged determination to make them cum no matter what it takes.
MongerForSex
11-22-18, 21:09
Can't afford a 50 baht pill, but can afford to feed, clothe, and care for a kid for 18 years?
But can bear the shame of walking around the pharmcist, parents, friends, and the rest of the entire world with a big belly and later a kid that does not know where its father is?
Makes no sense at all. This is not just Thai society. This is pretty much most of the world. I believe everyone has the right to have kids, but the responsibility to care and provide for them comes along with that right. That is why I feel nothing when people come up to me with babies and kids in tow begging for money. You knew the consequences of that dick and you can't seriously expect me to pay for it.What happens if the girl is widowed? Maybe it's her fault being with a guy smoking 10 packs a day.
Good for you. Neither do I. But MP says that is what he is striving for when he barfines that level of girls. You think FLHawk's Law, the one you have repeated several times with regard to the more expensive girls, only applies to FLHawk, older dudes like me and shy types? Nope. It applies to virtually every punter out there.
The only reason some of those guys finish faster or more easily with those show pieces is because they are more predisposed to cum faster and easier anyway. I doubt very seriously it is because those same girls suddenly change their spots and go the extra mile for them, work harder or are somehow iirresistably inspired to go at it with dogged determination to make them cum no matter what it takes.MP and whatever he strives for has no relevance to me and my own ability to come. I do find that if the woman is super hot the mental stimulation can be enough to push me over the edge so that I can come with them.
Mr Enternational
11-23-18, 04:33
What happens if the girl is widowed? Maybe it's her fault being with a guy smoking 10 packs a day.That is what insurance is for. My child is 22 years old and will never have to work again if / when I die (of course she does not know that.) And last time I was forced to fuck someone was never. We all choose who we fuck. So if she chose to fuck someone that smoked 10 packs a day and had no insurance, then I will tell her to go see MongerForSex and he will take over the responsibility and solve her problems.
MongerForSex
11-23-18, 04:49
That is what insurance is for. My child is 22 years old and will never have to work again if / when I die (of course she does not know that.) And last time I was forced to fuck someone was never. We all choose who we fuck. So if she chose to fuck someone that smoked 10 packs a day and had no insurance, then I will tell her to go see MongerForSex and he will take over the responsibility and solve her problems.Don't get me wrong, it was just sarcasm.
I totally agree, nobody is forced to pay a girl they don't like.
Banana Boi
11-23-18, 19:53
I wasn't really much in the mood for hobbying today but ventured out anyways.
MP, Phazze, and I hit the soapies. First up was Rasputin. Lineup was limited and we were a bit too early to see the expensive Russians who come around 8 or 9 pm. I didn't mind one girl who was in the cheap group. Pretty face but a bit older which explains why she was in the cheaper group. Sabai Room was next. Not a great lineup but it had 2 nice girls. These turned out to be the prettiest soapie girls we saw. I didn't write down the numbers but off the top of my head they were 28 and 56. Next Honey 2. Definitely the most girls. Seats all full of Indians. Thought there was a nice one but when she got up she had cottage cheese on her legs. Pass. Next Sabai Dee. Nothing for me there.
Next was a stroll on Soi 6. It was already dark out. I prefer Soi 6 in daylight since it helps me see the girls in full light. I only walked the bottom half of the Soi and decided it was time to go home to get ready for WS.
MP and Phazze went to Panda and Palace. I was determined tonight to not stick with the same bars. Decided to hit Bypass looking for my friend. She wasn't there but it wasn't too bad in Bypass tonight. A couple of cuter girls that I may check out another time. After that I decided to slum it and went to Super Girl. Other than the occasional decent hostesses you see outside there is nothing much inside. This is a fun bar with the right girl.
I decided to join the guys at Palace. It was jammed. Lots of nice girls tonight. No seats anywhere. I didn't even sit close to the guys. I'm glad I did sit myself where I did though since I spotted a model 447. She seemed my type but she was busy giving a Japanese guy a lap dance. I will definitely buy her a LD when I see her next time. Also like 179 but the second she came on the main floor a Chinese guy grabbed her. She looked disgusted at him at first but after 3 drinks in 5 minutes she was welcoming his advances. All about the money!
Lighthouse. Walked in and out. 4 girls on stage. Maybe 8 girls total in the main bar. Electric Blue. In and out nothing worth staying for there. Nothing at Airport Bar either.
Tantra. Maybe it was too late but the lineup was not impressive at all.
Didn't know where the guys went so I went to visit a friend working in LK Metro.
HorseTrader
11-23-18, 20:42
I wasn't really much in the mood for hobbying today but ventured out anyways.
MP, Phazze, and I hit the soapies. First up was Rasputin.
.The only Pattaya soapy that I experienced was Rasputin, which was about a year ago. I was only given CBJ. BBBJ was refused. Is that typical for Rasputin? What about other Pattaya soapies?
I was expecting something equivalent to Lords Palace. What I got was far inferior in terms of facility, service, and beauty of the girl. Of course, it was less than half the price. I’m going to miss Lords Palace, it was expensive but excellent experience.
DzikaBomba
11-24-18, 07:20
The only Pattaya soapy that I experienced was Rasputin, which was about a year ago. I was only given CBJ. BBBJ was refused. Is that typical for Rasputin? What about other Pattaya soapies?
I was expecting somejthing equivalent to Lords Palace. What I got was far inferior in terms of facility, service, and beauty of the girl. Of course, it was less than half the price. Im going to miss Lords Palace, it was expensive but excellent experience.I was in several soapies on second road and always got CBJ. This is sadly standard for this "official places".
Only one time BBBJ was offered for a tip.
For that reason I will never go to a soapie there again.
I don't pay for CBJ.
Day 17 - Wednesday.
FINAL MONGERING DAY.
Ok, the end is finally upon me. This visit has been my longest by several days and despite a few days of the blues, I have had perhaps my best and most enjoyable visit yet...Bravo FL Hawk!
Wonderful reports which I always enjoy reading! Huge kudos for being so honest and discussing the negatives, including your own problems. Especially as I am also mid 60's, also cannot come in a condom, and never more than once / day, and often have to DIY to finish. Always good to know one is not alone.
I don't know if you remember me from 3+ years ago. Shortly before your first trip I believe.
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?2677-Bangkok-Reports&p=1697492&viewfull=1#post1697492.
Anyway, I will be in BKK in a few days time, which will be my 3rd solo trip (IE excluding other Asian trips with a Thai GF).
Best wishes and hope things went well with the GF.
Rob.
Ok which one of you guys spent all that money at Windmill? Mr. Enternational? BB? The Paw?
https://pattayaone.news/en/brits-203550-baht-pattaya-gogo/
Ok which one of you guys spent all that money at Windmill? Mr. Enternational? BB? The Paw?
https://pattayaone.news/en/brits-203550-baht-pattaya-gogo/The man was a Brit, a class act and respectful to the girls. That eliminates a few including me.
Most financial advisors posting comments ridiculing the Brit when most dont have a baht pot to biss in.
As an American I acknowledge the lost of the title to the Brit. Congrats to you sir.
Tomorrow I will be starting a gofundme donation account to win the record title back for USA. USA USA USA.
The man was a Brit, a class act and respectful to the girls. That eliminates a few including me.
Most financial advisors posting comments ridiculing the Brit when most dont have a baht pot to biss in.
As an American I acknowledge the lost of the title to the Brit. Congrats to you sir.And I feel like a millionaire when I drop 8000 Baht in an Agogo. LOL. You can't take it with you, remember you never see a hearse with a trailer attached to the back. On the other side it would be a shit night to be there because I would imagine none of the girls would have eyes for any other punter.
Banana Boi
11-25-18, 22:36
If I ever spent that ungodly amount (1) it would NEVER happen at Windmill (2) I would NEVER allow someone to take a photo of me with the bill.
I'm not even close my largest gogo bar bill without a barfine is only around 10,000 at Sapphire, more than once. That happened when I was still a tourist and still naive to how much one needs to actually spend to get what you want.
On a related Cheap Charlie note, I had a 'new' gogo dancer get extremely angry at me tonight when I was training her to my 3 or 4 drink maximum per hour rule. When she asked for another drink after quickly drinking her LD in less than 5 minutes I showed her how little my already trained girl drank in that time. Even though I refused a second LD she still sat with me for 15 minutes. Then at 15 minutes I asked her if she wanted another drink and she angrily refused! Why would she waste her time sitting with me if she was going to ultimately refuse that 2nd drink? My trained girl still wasn't even half way through her drink by then and was also confused at the new girl's actions.
Over the last 2 days at Palace I have seen 2 girls I have trained (Cat Ear girl is still a bit of a work in progress even after 2 years) drink 5 shots each in less than 15 minutes with their customers. I just laugh and my girls just grin at me cause they know they have a real sucker with them.
Blanquiceleste
11-26-18, 00:17
The man was a Brit, a class act and respectful to the girls.Add to that list "very very poor taste in women". That he has "favorite" in Windmill isn't bad enough, he barfines her for a month. Yeah. Respect.
Crazy4Thai
11-26-18, 02:31
I ain't neva seen a armored car at a funeral yet. Neville Brothers.
I ain't neva seen a armored car at a funeral yet. Neville Brothers.My kids think I'm joking when I tell them I'm doing my best to spend it all before I die! LOL.
My kids think I'm joking when I tell them I'm doing my best to spend it all before I die! LOL.A few years ago I saw a sign on a billboard advertising Turkish Air first class. "If you don't fly first class--you're children will. ".
HorseTrader
11-26-18, 20:40
A few years ago I saw a sign on a billboard advertising Turkish Air first class. "If you don't fly first class--you're children will. ".That's exactly what I was thinking when I made my January reservation from USA to BKK. Then I saw the price differential. Economy class was $900. Business class was $5,400. First class was $18,500. Bought the economy class.
Delta has much lower prices on seats that are better than coach but not as good as business class. Too bad its an extra 8 hours travel time for me.
Papae Noel
11-27-18, 05:20
Maybe the name put me off when I first read about it. But it is the real deal. Would say very similar to Dollhouse XXX on Soi 15, with 2 levels. But Kink wins hands down. Did not spend as much time as I should have. Did not bother with Pandoras across the way.
If you are in the Soi Diana / LK Metro area, definitely have a look.
Other agogos, on a recent visit. Crazyhouse on Walking Street. There was a shit faced petite girl that was all about getting her pussy in your face, etc. Some other guy was with the thin girl with fairly nice large tits, with the chest tattoo above her tits. She was a little wild but has a nice and sexy look (hate her tattoo).
Windmill upstairs really pretty easy to talk with the girls. As always. Some say they are not as friendly as in the past. I disagree. That little waitress with the unusual face is always working downstairs, but she did not look well.
Electric Blue. Not much to say. Hit or miss at that agogo, actually it is more of a miss.
Misty's- Staff is always asking me if I want a girl, but still low pressure. I ended up having 2 girls join me. Alot of groping, but not much else. Still, a worthwhile venue. Not like it used to be, when they did not mind taking off their clothes. Why are they like that when the 2 bars next door. Electric Blue and BabyDolls have no problems?
Babydolls. Had some new talent. Of course the same tenured staff still there. Waitresses are definitely into service!!
Mr Enternational
11-27-18, 15:08
A closed mouth don't get fed. Some things never change!
Today I bumped into an old Beach Road FL regular. I hadn't seen her in over a year. She was now working in a beer bar in the Soi Buakhao area. When I took her as a freelancer she would always go with me for 500 baht ST.
So I asked her price as a bargirl now. 400 baht for bar fine and 1500 baht for ST! Holy fuck.
So a 500 baht freelancer now goes for 1900 baht in a beer bar. No wonder I don't go to bars.
Banana Boi
11-27-18, 17:41
Misty's- Staff is always asking me if I want a girl, but still low pressure. I ended up having 2 girls join me. Alot of groping, but not much else. Still, a worthwhile venue. Not like it used to be, when they did not mind taking off their clothes. Why are they like that when the 2 bars next door. Electric Blue and BabyDolls have no problems?Misty's likes to think of itself as a gogo bar more akin to Sapphire than Electric Blue and Dollhouse. Not sure why no nice girls there except a former hostess / coyote girl (MP calls them PR girls) who coincidentally now works at Kink.
So a 500 baht freelancer now goes for 1900 baht in a beer bar. No wonder I don't go to bars.
I had to sacrifice a beautiful girl who used to be 1000 ST at a beer bar and is now 3000 ST in a gogo bar. Figured she didn't enjoy being with me enough to grandfather or discount her pricing so I sadly moved on.
Member #4591
11-27-18, 18:55
Today I bumped into an old Beach Road FL regular. I hadn't seen her in over a year. She was now working in a beer bar in the Soi Buakhao area. When I took her as a freelancer she would always go with me for 500 baht ST.
So I asked her price as a bargirl now. 400 baht for bar fine and 1500 baht for ST! Holy fuck.
So a 500 baht freelancer now goes for 1900 baht in a beer bar. No wonder I don't go to bars.Why Holy Fuck? What would you of wanted this poor girl to do? She is now working at this bar. Should she have paid her own bar fine and then charged you 500 to make a wopping 100 Baht profit? It's either that or quit her job. I'm just wondering what you have been smoking? Weed is not legal yet in Thailand but almost. My dear friend, you are the apitomy of a Cheap Charlie LOL.
Mr Enternational
11-28-18, 02:46
So a 500 baht freelancer now goes for 1900 baht in a beer bar. No wonder I don't go to bars.Well you have to realize there are only diseased skanks on Beach Road that are not able to work in a beer bar or gogo bar for more money. Oh, you say it is the same girl? Seems I remember talking about that a time or two. Same girl, different place, different price. That is why you cut out the middle man and call them over on their free time for your price.
Hello there,
I've been RTFF a while now, and this is the first time for me posting, I will be on my maiden voyage to the LOS tomorrow and will stay for a week. I just wanted to post to thank all of the regular and irregular posters for informing and entertaining me with your reports. I will be posting my adventures when I'm back. My primary hunting grounds will be the clubs and soi 6, and I hope to visit some G-clubs in the little time that I have. You guys have been really helpful, again thanks.
Mr Enternational
11-29-18, 03:57
I guess that shit is real. I stayed at one of my girls' place last night and when I got home a minute ago my landlord said that immigration had been through asking about all the foreigners that stay here. My landlord had a copy of all the foreigners' passport in his hand. He said that I needed to go see immigration. I told him that did not pertain to me because I am never here more than 30 days at a time. I gave him a copy of my new stamp and white form and told him of they come back to let then know my situation. Seems like they would already have that in their system.
Banana Boi
11-29-18, 07:34
Decided to slum it a bit last night.
Living Dolls. I should have taken a longer shower it would have been time better spent.
Crazy House. This one is for you, Lew! For CH standards it was actually quite good. Let's make no mistake this will never be a top gogo bar though. My favorite was being BF as I walked in. Now she's cute but other than her this place has been a dog show for a long time now. There was one girl #800 who had potential. Definitely someone like Syzy would drool all over. Tall lean slim looked 19. Cute natural Thai look. Only thing out of place was a very large mouth which she may have had surgery to widen. #800 was the ONLY girl in there with a customer and he also barfined her while I was in the bar. Like always, my girls tend to be the first ones barfined.
Wildcats. Where is Bee? Actually 2 visits this week. Neither time good. I give up even if it is high mileage there.
Bliss. I have a couple of friends here but if not for them I would never set foot in this bar.
Lighthouse, Airport, Electric Blue, Dollhouse. All just in and out.
Champagne. Met up with a fellow ISG member. Definitely lots of models. Nothing drink worthy but if you're in LK Metro definitely check this bar out. Many guys have different taste in girls than I do.
Soi Honey. After LK we decided to walk along Soi Honey. There was actually a very cute petite girl who grabbed me. Not sure is she popped out of Up to You or Paradise. I think it was Up to You. I may need to go see her one night. We also spotted a couple of other potential girls to at least have a drink with. It was after midnight so most girls were of the ladyboy variety on Soi Honey at that time.
Honey 1 - Quite a few girls in Honey 1 last night. I never see anyone I like at Honey 1. Forget about even looking at the 2000 or 2500 girls. 3000 for M and 3800 for V. I'd rather use that money on 2 or 3 soi 6 girls.
Banana Boi
11-29-18, 07:40
Story in the news today that a Chinese tourist was beaten up by one of the security guards for not buying a girl who sat with him a lady drink. I may just have to go there tonight and try my luck saying no to a girl.
Story in the news today that a Chinese tourist was beaten up by one of the security guards for not buying a girl who sat with him a lady drink. I may just have to go there tonight and try my luck saying no to a girl.Good luck. If you have changed your name to Banana Puree tomorrow we know what happened.
Why Holy Fuck? What would you of wanted this poor girl to do? She is now working at this bar. Should she have paid her own bar fine and then charged you 500 to make a wopping 100 Baht profit? It's either that or quit her job. I'm just wondering what you have been smoking? Weed is not legal yet in Thailand but almost. My dear friend, you are the apitomy of a Cheap Charlie LOL.I think you are overreacting here. He didn't want to barfine her nor was he asking for a discount. He only asked for her price as a bargirl.
Maybe she's still willing to go with him for 500 baht in her free time.
I was in Soi 6 the other day and took a regular. After the deed I was washing up in the shower and she told me that she once had a Japanese customer who came in one minute. She was laughing at the memory. She just couldn't believe how quick this guy was. Then she showed me how long his dick was by using my cock as a measuring stick. Looked like one inch to to me.
So we have a Japanese guy who is a 111. One inch, one minute, one thousand.
Member #4591
11-29-18, 14:26
I guess that shit is real. I stayed at one of my girls' place last night and when I got home a minute ago my landlord said that immigration had been through asking about all the foreigners that stay here. My landlord had a copy of all the foreigners' passport in his hand. He said that I needed to go see immigration. I told him that did not pertain to me because I am never here more than 30 days at a time. I gave him a copy of my new stamp and white form and told him of they come back to let then know my situation. Seems like they would already have that in their system.He is reapomsible for filing a TM30 and if he didn't do it, they may want to see you to just confirm when you entered and so forth.
Banana Boi
11-30-18, 06:44
So we have a Japanese guy who is a 111. One inch, one minute, one thousand.Girls say what they think you want to hear. They play games with their customers out of boredom too just like MP does with his girls. They are testing to see how easy a mark you are and how naive you are. No guy has a 1 inch dick. I'm close but it's at least 1.33 inches!
Banana Boi
11-30-18, 07:06
Continuing my slumming ways I decided to check out Come Together yesterday. Can't say I was too surprised to see it closed. A bit of a shame though since this location has been a long time BJ bar as it was formerly Carre Blanc. Maybe it was just closed yesterday but there were no signs up and I went after 2 pm when it was supposed to be open. Went across 3rd Road to Geisha bar. Now this place has definitely closed. Big for sale / rent sign right across the front door. Geisha had some decent looking young girls at times but was a bit too restrictive for a G club. I had to yell at mamasan once because the hot girl I was with wouldn't take off her clothes, give me a HJ, or DFK me. This is not what I expect after buying a LD in any G club.
Looks like out with 2 G clubs but there is a new one opening near Club 555 today. Forgot the name. Also Blue Olive recently opened near Heaven.
Soi 6 yesterday afternoon was good. Spotted maybe 3 cute ones who I will revisit one day. One at Bulldog, Wicked, and one other bar. Most of the girls I knew were working too except Kwan at Butterfly. Anyone know where Kwan is? Haven't seen her for a while.
Soapies. Walked around with an ISG member. His first time to the soapies was the night before at Honey 1. We went to Sabai Room, Honey 2, and Sabai Dee. All 3 had a girl I would have went with if it weren't a soapie. Some very nice looking girls can be found now if you hit the soapis at the right time. I forget most of the numbers now (I am not diligent like FL Hawk to write these things down and I usually forget the next day unless they are really worth remembering) but I definitely liked #55 at Sabai Room and #228 at Sabai Dee. Honey 2 had the best collective group and easily the most girls. Again, don't even look at the cheap girls they're like bar beer girls. The ISG guy took a girl from Sabai Room. To the ISG member, thanks for offering to pay for my soapie session. A very nice gesture on your part.
Engine Driver
11-30-18, 10:11
Girls say what they think you want to hear. They play games with their customers out of boredom too just like MP does with his girls. They are testing to see how easy a mark you are and how naive you are. No guy has a 1 inch dick. I'm close but it's at least 1.33 inches!What about Mr Chow from the Hangover. His dick was only half an inch long.
Christian G
11-30-18, 10:36
No guy has a 1 inch dick. I'm close but it's at least 1.33 inches!And all girls always told you "oh very big cock" LOL.
Christian G
11-30-18, 10:53
there is a new one opening near Club 555 today. Forgot the name.
Club Baku https://www.facebook.com/ClubBakuPattaya/
Also Blue Olive recently opened near Heaven.Yes, is Blue Olives https://www.facebook.com/blueoliveslounge/.
PaulAlbert
12-01-18, 11:28
So I am currently in Pattaya for one month and have been here for one week already with three to go and spending most of my time on Soi 6. I have had about 15 encounters, all of which have been good-great with very eager and willing girls between the ages of 18-24, nothing older then that. On my last trip to Patong in 2015 I had a regular massage girl whom I saw every other day and she smelled me, like, smelled me really deep and all over. I never really thought about it until I came back to Thailand and Pattaya in particular when I have had quite a few of the girls do the same thing, take deep breaths in all over my neck, chest and torso. I tried to ask them if that is a sign of affection or attraction, one told me "I look like a real man, very sexy" which could all be total bullshit but when it happens after very passionate sex, it makes me wonder if that is true. Any help? Not that it matters but I am relatively young (40) and in decent shape. Please don't flame me with insults, I just would really like to know as it is quite the turn on and ego boost if true.
Soi 6 today at 7 pm, not in early afternoon as usual. No advantage compared to 2 pm in terms of line-up. First session didn't go well despite the girl looking and acting wicked and perverse, tattooed, hard-core, possibly high on something judging by her saucer eyes and extreme horny behaviour. I raised my hand to the air-con before leaving and found it to be lukewarm. Could be why I struggled. Mental note: in the future always make sure the air-con is cold. Sexual intercourse is exothermic, it won't go if heat is left to accumulate.
Decided to have a 2nd session with an abnormally tall girl who turned out to be a post-op. Fell for it line hook and sinker because she was at the "right" end of the street, had a superior body but with small tits and none of the tell-tale overexaggerated curves or ladyboyish tics and mannerisms. What should have made me suspicious was that "she" was still available. I walked away from the room in a huff. Well no I didn't. Having already drawn blank once and money not growing on trees for me I made the most of the situation and managed to finish. Yes I know, shame on me, but look, I fuck my own hand sometimes and it is not even post-op yet. I am to have it operated but I keep putting it off.
Banana Boi
12-01-18, 17:13
Decided to have a 2nd session with an abnormally tall girl who turned out to be a post-op. Fell for it line hook and sinker because she was at the "right" end of the street, had a superior body but with small tits and none of the tell-tale overexaggerated curves or ladyboyish tics and mannerisms. What should have made me suspicious was that "she" was still available. I walked away from the room in a huff. Well no I didn't. Having already drawn blank once and money not growing on trees for me I made the most of the situation and managed to finish. Yes I know, shame on me, but look, I fuck my own hand sometimes and it is not even post-op yet. I am to have it operated but I keep putting it off.She had a female voice?
She had a female voice?Yes she had as far as I could notice although I couldn't audition her in any reliable way what with the din on soi 6.
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On my last trip to Patong in 2015 I had a regular massage girl whom I saw every other day and she smelled me, like, smelled me really deep and all over. I never really thought about it until I came back to Thailand and Pattaya in particular when I have had quite a few of the girls do the same thing, take deep breaths in all over my neck, chest and torso. I tried to ask them if that is a sign of affection or attraction, one told me "I look like a real man, very sexy" which could all be total bullshit but when it happens after very passionate sex, it makes me wonder if that is true. Any help? Not that it matters but I am relatively young (40) and in decent shape. Please don't flame me with insults, I just would really like to know as it is quite the turn on and ego boost if true.What you are describing is "sniff kissing". Many Thai girls are into it. Do it back to them, especially in the neck area as they did with you, and it will drive them nuts. For many Thais it is like DFK for most of us.
.................Decided to have a 2nd session with an abnormally tall girl who turned out to be a post-op. Fell for it line hook and sinker because she was at the "right" end of the street, had a superior body but with small tits and none of the tell-tale overexaggerated curves or ladyboyish tics and mannerisms. What should have made me suspicious was that "she" was still available. I walked away from the room in a huff. Well no I didn't. Having already drawn blank once and money not growing on trees for me I made the most of the situation and managed to finish. Yes I know, shame on me, but look, I fuck my own hand sometimes and it is not even post-op yet. I am to have it operated but I keep putting it off.You have my sympathy. Happened to me once in HK. Thai in walk-up; I could not get hard. Only after leaving I realized it was a post-up. Hope it never happens again.
1st trip to Pattaya
9 nights
Nov 16 - 25.
Just got back from my 1st trip to Pattaya. Below is a general report of my key takeaways / experiences during my stay.
Hung out with Monkeypaw (2nd time), FL Hawk (1st time), Banana Boi (1st time), Lew Ashby (1st time).
Feel free to reach out if you'd like any additional in-depth details.
Little about Myself
*Asian-American, 27 y/o, Chinese / Taiwanese background.
*Not the rowdy type, generally more quiet & prefer discretion.
*Prefer stunner type: tall, slim, pretty face, fair skin, no baby damage, girls that would make you hard just looking at them, etc.
**Given my preference. I'd just like to preface my report by saying that I can come off as a super picky motherfucker (LOL).
But at the end of the day, I didn't come here to fuck "normal" looking girls that I wouldn't have much trouble getting back home.
Hotel#1- Hilton (1st 7 nights).
*Pros: Great overall experience, fantastic views, good breakfast, nice rooms, friendly staff, NO joiner fee, mall w / food & banks, great pool.
*Cons: priciest 5 star option, not walkable to & from WS (especially with a girl), gym could be better.
*Misc: while it may not be a huge factor, I'm sure girls are more receptive to a nice place as opposed to a dump.
Hotel #2- WAVE (last 2 nights).
*Pros: Spacious rooms, smaller hotel / fewer rooms = more lowkey, NO joiner fee.
*Cons: pricey for a 4 star option (comparable to Hilton), not walkable to & from WS (next door to Hilton), ground floor pool, exposed to street noise, etc.
*Misc: Hilton > WAVE. Pretty straight forward, it is what it is. Breakfast is AYCE but comes in set menus, not as good as Hilton.
Regular Daytime activities
*Pros: if you like beach / water activities, seems like there's definitely enough to keep you entertained.
*Cons: aside from beach / water activities, not a whole lot else to do. (But then again, I didn't come here to "travel")
*Misc: I really didn't do shit during the day, just chilled by the pool, smoked cigs, drank & napped.
Food
*Pros: lots of cheap eats, no shortage of good thai food, lots of seafood options.
*Cons: fine dining is lacking, overall not great. (especially if you come from a major metropolitan city IE: NYC, LA, Hong Kong, etc.).
*Misc: fine dining generally not cheap even compared to what you'd find in 1st world countries. Not worth the price.
Soi 6.
*Pros: cheaper alternative to WS, opens before WS for you to pump one out before evening, lots of girls.
*Cons: if you're like me & are looking for "stunners". They'll be harder to come by here. After all, there's a reason why they're here and not in a top GoGo.
*Misc: never ended up taking a girl from Soi 6, but from what I was told. Girls are likely to try harder & provide better service than their WS counterparts. Makes sense.
Soapies
*Pros: several within walking distance of each other, cheaper than Bangkok, convenient.
*Cons: overall quality of girls not as great as Bangkok, fewer establishments than Bangkok.
*Misc: never ended up taking a girl from soapies, I think I ended up getting spoiled w / my trips to the Lord in Bangkok.
Walking Street (found all my girls here)
*Pros: shit load of GoGos, shit load of girls, more entertaining than BKK scene (if you enjoy a challenge), best overall quality of girls IMHO.
*Cons: shit load of girls, so again if you're looking for true stunners... you'll still have to search. Not cheap, expect to drop $$ if you want the best.
*Misc: lots of tourists. Some can be rude & just plain obnoxious, annoying fuckers trying to sell you on sex shows etc.
Favorite GoGos
1-Palace, 2 (tie) -Panda / Baccara, 4-Sensations, 5-Sapphire.
*Overall, Palace just had the highest concentration of "stunners" & IMHO the best ambiance / setup.
Small in size, harder to find seats, but keeps you closer to the girls on stage & more interaction with girls walking around.
Girls here definitely hustle you more than other bars due to the close proximity, but its fun if you're not cheap.
"Stunner" Experience.
Just like with non-hookers, the prettier the girl, the more options she has, the more difficult it is for you to get what you want.
Thus, its only natural that the top girls will naturally be more receptive to youth, good looks & overall charm / game. (Money being an obvious pre-requisite, IE: can't be CHEAP).
Highly doubt this fact would change regardless of where you go to monger.
So to be completely objective, if you are older or less attractive or lack charm / game. You are going to have a harder time getting the best looking girls plain & simple.
Regarding customer demographics, the "top" GoGo bars are predominately asian. Live with it, you're in Asia. It's the same in Bangkok.
Do we smoke? Yes. If you don't like it, don't come or sit further away. With me, I make it a habit to blow my smoke away from others but that is the extent of how much I care about what others think of my smoking in a GoGo.
From what I've seen, not just in Pattaya, east asian customers are less likely to be rowdy / disrespectful, less stingy / cheap & are overall more chill / relaxed.
These traits aside. These are ASIAN girls. Don't be surprised if they are more inclined to go with ASIAN customers.
EX: lot more similarities between Thai culture/behavior vs. Chinese, Korean, Japanese than say Thai vs. Non-asian American, European, etc.
These girls are still human after all. Not mindless fuck machines. They'll go with what they're most comfortable with.
EX: on more than 1 occasion, girls have told me after that they like the fact that they can be seen walking with me in public & it look like they're with their boyfriend/guy friend rather than a customer. i suppose less shame/judging looks from others... which seemingly translated to them being more comfortable in bed as well.
(not have it been completely obvious that they're about to fuck me for money)
Overall tips / advice for getting stunners (not exclusive to Pattaya).
**Be mindful / respectful, but still have fun.
Yes you're in a GoGo bar or w/e, but you're not at a frat party or a den of sex slaves. Staff aren't going to appreciate you making a mess or bothering other customers.
Top girls aren't going to appreciate being groped & treated like sex toys or you asking them to bareback the first time you guys meet, etc. Besides, not cool to knock these girls up, spread shit around & ruin the fun for others.
Girls talk, so don't think that if the girl hasn't seen you or been with you that she doesn't know about you via her friends.
(A girl I took from Palace showed me her group LINE chat w/ other girls wherein they talk shit / give feedback about customers LIVE)
Ultimately, girls will be less likely to go with you if you have a bad rep / image.
**don't be cheap / stingy. But this doesn't mean flash / flex like an idiot. Spend where you SHOULD spend. Tip when it is appropriate.
Flex like an idiot and girls will just see you as an easy target for money. Spend too little and girls won't even bother with you.
**know what you want. Unless what you want is to fall in love... In which case, don't come LOL or else you'll be the one getting fucked the hardest.
While these girls might not be the most educated / book smart, they're queens at bullshitting. Keep your lies believable & be honest / direct with what you're after.
Between Bangkok & Pattaya, haven't been turned down by any girls. Doubt it's because of any one factor I've listed but rather a healthy balance of them all.
Won't guarantee you good service every time, as i've had my fair share of bad experiences... but will better your chances overall.
EXCEPT #174 at Palace. Who seemingly has also turned down everyone else on this board LOL. If anyone manages to get her. Share please.
Cheers you fuckers.
1st trip to Pattaya
9 nights
Nov 16 - 25.Overall tips / advice for getting stunners (not exclusive to Pattaya).
*A few additional points I forgot to mention*.
**Whether you're physically attractive or not. How you present yourself still matters.
Dress like a bum & expect to be treated like one.
Don't try too hard or risk coming off as a weirdo or looking like a newbie.
Just keep your outfit clean & simple / appropriate.
Maintain basic grooming habits.
-brush your teeth (nobody likes bad breath).
-Shave your face if you can't confidently rock a beard. (scraggly hairs look gross).
-Smell nice. Don't have to wear cologne but at least don't be smelly. So shower before you go out.
-Want a good BJ? At least keep your shit trimmed & neat. (girls don't want to pick pubes out of their mouth or have your rough pubes roughing up their face).
-Nails, keep them trimmed. Nobody wants to feel like you're shanking them while fucking.
At the end of the day, these girls are going to have to walk out of the GoGo with you in front of all her friends, mamasans, customers, in-public, hotel, etc.
And for many customers, more likely than not, these girls would be out of your league if they weren't working girls. So try your best to bridge that gap haha.
Imagine. How would you like to be seen with a fat / ugly / unkempt looking girl with everybody knowing that you're about to fuck that monstrosity for money?
We're talking about stunners after all. You don't get to be the best by fucking the worst.
**Want a girl to give better service? TRY to turn her on / make her cum.
While lots of these girls are lesbians / into tomboys and won't be attracted to guys in general. Do you really expect to get good service if you just lie there and say "get to it"?
-assuming the girl is clean & is ok with it, don't hesitate to go down on her or at least start with a bit of foreplay to ease her into it.
Being a starfish goes both ways.
-don't want to go down on her? Bring some toys. No need to get crazy since not all girls are into kinky shit. But what girl wouldn't appreciate a bullet?
Always. If you can make the girl cum, you'll be better off than if you can't.
-if you like to fuck hard, first start slow until she seems comfortable. Otherwise you risk her trying to rush the session & get the fuck out ASAP.
What working girl wants you to immediately mount her like you're an aspiring bull rider?
-if you're into something specific. Ask first if she's cool with it.
EX: just like how you probably don't want her to stick her thumb in your ass w / o asking. The reverse is likely to be true too.
Hair pulling. Lots of girls wear hair extensions so don't fuck up by tearing her extensions out LOL! I'd imagine its a quick way to end a session.
Choking. Uhh she's being paid to fuck a stranger that might or might not be a psychopath serial killer. Don't scare them.
In general, just like with a regular girl. Chemistry doesn't just happen w / o at least some effort on your part.
#2 Cheers you fuckers.
Mr Enternational
12-02-18, 09:53
**Want a girl to give better service? TRY to turn her on / make her cum.This post was a joke out of fantasyland right? You are a 20 year old stud at the university. You want a 70 year old wrinkled up drunk bat with nice nails and nice clothes wearing the most expensive perfume trying to turn you on and make you cum, or do you want her to hurry and finish and get off of you so you can get your money and go hang out with people your own age?
This post was a joke out of fantasyland right? You are a 20 year old stud at the university. You want a 70 year old wrinkled up drunk bat with nice nails and nice clothes wearing the most expensive perfume trying to turn you on and make you cum, or do you want her to hurry and finish and get off of you so you can get your money and go hang out with people your own age?OMG. You still have a lot to learn my friend.
Mr Enternational
12-02-18, 10:36
OMG. You still have a lot to learn my friend.I am just not a disillusioned monger. Show up without money and see how far those nice clothes get you with a 20 year old. I am only 46 right now. But maybe when I am 70 I will see the light and learn the lesson.
I am just not a disillusioned monger. Show up without money and see how far those nice clothes get you with a 20 year old. I am only 46 right now. But maybe when I am 70 I will see the light and learn the lesson.Just because we pay them doesn't mean we cannot turn them on or make them cum. Of course it helps when you're still young and handsome but when you're old and ugly you can compensate that with your experience, tongue and fingers.
I am just not a disillusioned monger. Show up without money and see how far those nice clothes get you with a 20 year old. I am only 46 right now. But maybe when I am 70 I will see the light and learn the lesson.Are you suggesting hard core hookers never put out for free? Or go the extra mile for someone who treats them half decently?
Mr Enternational
12-02-18, 11:55
Are you suggesting hard core hookers never put out for free? Or go the extra mile for someone who treats them half decently?No. I am merely putting myself in a 20 year old hooker's shoes. I guess if you were a 20 year old male hooker you would not be able to wait until the 70 year old chick that treats you half decent turns you on and makes you cum. And that session would be on the house!
Funny how the same guys talk about all the undesirable chicks in the bars and the gogos that they would not give the chance to treat them right, but all the sexy desirable chicks would be putty in their hands if they were to be treated decent. Go over and let one of those chicks you don't find so attractive to service you. Then you might see how the 20 year old sexy gogo chick really feels when she is treated decent. All the treated decent in the world will not make up for the ick factor.
This post was a joke out of fantasyland right? You are a 20 year old stud at the university. You want a 70 year old wrinkled up drunk bat with nice nails and nice clothes wearing the most expensive perfume trying to turn you on and make you cum, or do you want her to hurry and finish and get off of you so you can get your money and go hang out with people your own age?
Lets be honest. Doesn't matter how good looking the customer is. Most of these girls probably don't want to be banging random dudes all night.
But I'm the customer and I'm paying her for her time. I'm not going to hold her past our agreed upon time but I'm going to do what I can to make the time enjoyable. NOT for her sake. For mine.
If my attempt at bringing some level of enjoyment for her gives ME a far better experience. Then I'm going to do it.
lets be clear, I'm not talking about making a girlfriend cum because I love her oh so much... on that note, find me a working girl that WANTS to be treated like a hooker/sex object... and ill show you a girl with a few screws loose
and yea. i'm still young & relatively good looking so our perspective/experiences might be different.
if you read my post, i specifically said... there isn't 1 specific factor thats going to make you shine like a diamond. kempt nails... smelling nice... small factors. but whats the flip side? smelling bad with long curly nails? you want the girl to hold her breath while you're fucking her?
I am just not a disillusioned monger. Show up without money and see how far those nice clothes get you with a 20 year old. I am only 46 right now. But maybe when I am 70 I will see the light and learn the lesson.
per my post... i mentioned having money being "an obvious pre-requisite". my point is that you can't just show up with money & expect stunners falling all over your dick. unless you're Jeff Bezos and you're gonna retire them after 1 session lol
Funny how the same guys talk about all the undesirable chicks in the bars and the gogos that they would not give the chance to treat them right, but all the sexy desirable chicks would be putty in their hands if they were to be treated decent. Go over and let one of those chicks you don't find so attractive to service you. Then you might see how the 20 year old sexy gogo chick really feels when she is treated decent. All the treated decent in the world will not make up for the ick factor.
yea i've already tried. its like dating below your league.
4th night, cute girl from Whats Up gogo. Not my usual type, but she was "girl next door" cute.
Putty in my hands.... I could have gotten away with playing starfish/corpse. had to ask her to leave after 1st pop short time.
but that experience... was simply BORING. At my age, i still enjoy a challenge. Hence my post which was in regards to STUNNERS.
Are you suggesting hard core hookers never put out for free? Or go the extra mile for someone who treats them half decently?
i know you're comment wasn't directed at me, but since my post sparked it...
i'd never take a session for free. better to keep it transactional and avoid it becoming anything more than services rendered.
prepared to pay because I have the cash to pay & find no pleasure in leaving expectations up for interpretation
No. I am merely putting myself in a 20 year old hooker's shoes.
All the treated decent in the world will not make up for the ick factor.I just don't see the difference between being "ick" because of age, looks or behaviour. Girl's react to guys based upon their preferences across all of them.
i know you're comment wasn't directed at me, but since my post sparked it...
i'd never take a session for free. better to keep it transactional and avoid it becoming anything more than services rendered.
prepared to pay because I have the cash to pay & find no pleasure in leaving expectations up for interpretationDude, you don't know what you're missing out on. Ain't nothing better than a skilled provider doing her thing because she wants to be there, no strings attached. 😁.
More seriously, there sure are benefits of keeping things transactional. Certainly if you don't need any more complications in your life. If a punter is not careful, "Freebies" can be incredibly expensive.
Enjoy, G.
Top girls aren't going to appreciate being groped & treated like sex toys or you asking them to bareback the first time you guys meet, etc. Besides, not cool to knock these girls up, spread shit around & ruin the fun for others. Thanks for the report. Can we assume from that passage that you never engaged in any "uncool" activity with those top girls?
Looking at a second trip in summer.
Previously experienced Bangkok and had some good-to-great experiences with mainly hookups on wechat, smooci, and SWs, BJ bars etc. I'm not really a gogo bar guy but I can see appeal: I'm not so young and can do without the shite music etc. Also, I fear I'd let beer affect performance. This said, does Pattaya have anything for me that I can't find in BKK? I realise it's by the sea but I wouldn't really need beaches and sea. Are lower average prices worth going for? Have read loads of reports of both places but I'm not convinced it's worth my while after what I've experienced in BKK.
Cheers.
Thanks for the report. Can we assume from that passage that you never engaged in any "uncool" activity with those top girls?Such as openly groping them in the bar? Never.
Not unless the girl is super aggressive & insists on it. IE: grinding / dancing on me. But the "top" girls I usually go for don't behave like that anyways. They simply don't need to... since they could be standing still and every guy would still be drooling
At the very most I'll keep any physical contact casual / minimal to at least express interest & not give off the wrong impression of being disinterested.
It really just doesn't arouse/do much for me to do anything right then and there. i like the first titty grab to be when she's full naked in my bed & the first ass grab when she's about to ride me cowgirl.
In the gogos, I'm usually more focused on screening the girl to gauge personality, chemistry, whether or not she'll be good in bed, etc.
My eyes are enough to determine whether a girl has a firm ass, nice tits, flat stomach, etc. I mean. They're practically dancing naked anyways.
Looking at a second trip in summer.
Previously experienced Bangkok and had some good-to-great experiences with mainly hookups on wechat, smooci, and SWs, BJ bars etc. I'm not really a gogo bar guy but I can see appeal: I'm not so young and can do without the shite music etc. Also, I fear I'd let beer affect performance. This said, does Pattaya have anything for me that I can't find in BKK? I realise it's by the sea but I wouldn't really need beaches and sea. Are lower average prices worth going for? Have read loads of reports of both places but I'm not convinced it's worth my while after what I've experienced in BKK.
Cheers.
depends on what you're looking for. i think BKK is better for finding regular girls.. i mean its a bigger city after all not just a sex destination.
no smooci in pattaya yet, but i'm personally not a fan of calling girls online when you can see them in person.
plenty of SW in pattaya
no personal experience with BJ bars.
you don't HAVE to drink beer at gogos, you can get soda, water, seltzer water, etc.
yea the music in gogos is mostly shit.
presumably you're older - so i will say, if you go into top gogos, there are going to be a whole lot of young guys there you're competing with... just being honest.
seems like soi 6 would be a spot you'd enjoy. only 1 way to find out :)
Dude, you don't know what you're missing out on. Ain't nothing better than a skilled provider doing her thing because she wants to be there, no strings attached. 😁.
More seriously, there sure are benefits of keeping things transactional. Certainly if you don't need any more complications in your life. If a punter is not careful, "Freebies" can be incredibly expensive.
Enjoy, G.
i've honestly never been offered freebies. except maybe once?... but i paid for it in other ways... took a stunner in BKK out during the day for a nice lunch & a movie. it was one of those premium theaters w/ daybeds. ;) ye we fucked in the theater. movie was dogshit (murder on the orient express). thank god i imagined the scenario and brought a condom with me
but i have had working girls make attempts at being "girlfriends" to which i usually make it very clear that i'm not looking for a girlfriend.
just friends is ok... but then again, what is there to talk about with these girls? really not much. language barrier is already a pain in the ass as it is.
Such as openly groping them in the bar? Never.
Not unless the girl is super aggressive & insists on it. IE: grinding / dancing on me. But the "top" girls I usually go for don't behave like that anyways. They simply don't need to... since they could be standing still and every guy would still be drooling
At the very most I'll keep any physical contact casual / minimal to at least express interest & not give off the wrong impression of being disinterested.
It really just doesn't arouse/do much for me to do anything right then and there. i like the first titty grab to be when she's full naked in my bed & the first ass grab when she's about to ride me cowgirl.
In the gogos, I'm usually more focused on screening the girl to gauge personality, chemistry, whether or not she'll be good in bed, etc.
My eyes are enough to determine whether a girl has a firm ass, nice tits, flat stomach, etc. I mean. They're practically dancing naked anyways.
Well, no, that wasn't really the "uncool" part that I was asking about or what you could have meant when you said "Besides, not cool to knock these girls up, spread shit around & ruin the fun for others", right? I don't believe girls are getting knocked up or anyone risks those other things if they are openly groped in the bar. But if you'd rather not answer my question, no problem, of course.
As luck would have it, I took a non pro Bkk girl I met on one of the dating sites to Pattaya this past weekend because she had a rare three days off from her regular job as a barista in one of those coffee and pastry shops and she likes hanging around the beach. BTW, for a casual, family-friendly, touristy but kind of nice afternoon with a girl during the day in Pattaya, check out the Pattaya Floating Market "theme park". It is a two separate baht-bus transport and about a 25 minute ride from Walking Street. Yes, it is very touristy, but kind of fun for a daytime "date" if you pop for the longboat ride, the goofy photo of you and her in traditional Thai garb and the very short zip line ride over the river. That's about 800 baht per person and you also get front-of-the-line entry to the rides. Comes in handy when the big tour buses full of Chinese and Japanese arrive, which they did while we were there. Otherwise, 100 baht gets you in for a walk around and that would be fine for most curiosity seekers or bored vacationers in Pattaya. Tons of food options to sample.
Anyway, over this weekend we passed by Palace quite often and at night I saw several of their girls sitting on stools outside the bar wearing cocktail type dresses. We didn't go inside but I have been in that bar before. Saturday early evening we sat at the ice cream shop next to Panda and watched many of their girls entering in street clothes before 9 PM. Have to say, in neither case did I see girls notably "hotter" than some of the girls who stand at the top of the escalator in Nana Plaza beckoning you into one of those Mandarin Go-Go bars. And those Nana Plaza girls are standing up and wearing bikinis rather than sitting on stools and wearing dresses. I suppose the real knock out stunners at Palace and Panda are inside the bars much earlier than when we were taking note of the arrivals and their door girls.
Looking at a second trip in summer.
Previously experienced Bangkok and had some good-to-great experiences with mainly hookups on wechat, smooci, and SWs, BJ bars etc. I'm not really a gogo bar guy but I can see appeal: I'm not so young and can do without the shite music etc. Also, I fear I'd let beer affect performance. This said, does Pattaya have anything for me that I can't find in BKK? I realise it's by the sea but I wouldn't really need beaches and sea. Are lower average prices worth going for? Have read loads of reports of both places but I'm not convinced it's worth my while after what I've experienced in BKK.
Cheers.My take: The few really good-looking girls in Pattaya are so rare and practically unseen by anyone who does not go into the 3-4 specific bars on Walking Street to find, woo, cajole, entertain, overpay and audition for them, their presence does nothing to either improve or maintain the standard of looks (and quality of service) for every other P4P girl in town. That is an element not talked about here really; the trickle down effect when there are tons more very hot girls in the P4P scene, as is the case in Bangkok but not really the case in Pattaya.
In such a more abundant hot girl environment, all the other levels of girls, the above average girls, the average girls and even the slightly below average girls have to up their game in some respect in order to believably compete with or at least respond to the influence of those top tier girls. Even if a punter does not proactively pursue "top girl stunners" in Bangkok, as I rarely do, the fact is in Bangkok the above average girls have to actually be better looking and must be prepared to offer something better than basic standard fare because there is every reason for them to believe a reasonably well presented 65 year old white guy has actually seen and is as likely to score one of the better looking girls as anyone else.
Not so in Pattaya. In Pattaya, there does not appear to be any easily observable top end standard which all other levels must acknowledge and respond to that is high enough to lift the standards of the girls who are not among the handful of "top" girls apparently found in 3-4 Walking Street go-go bars. Therefore, the above average girl in Pattaya can get away with being barely acceptable to many Bangkok punters who are generally happy with the looks and quality of service offered by that level of girl in Bangkok. Mind you, I'm not just talking about looks, but also about demeanor and quality of service offered or agreed to. The girls who presumably could be considered average for Pattaya are, imo, not acceptable under most circumstances.
And there are some girls who feel perfectly at home working the streets right next to the main farang red light areas of Pattaya who are a horror show. Women who would be considered below average Pattaya girls I guess. It is extremely rare that you would see working women quite that old and sad within visible proximity of Nana Plaza, Soi Cowboy or even Patpong. They wouldn't even bother showing up, it would be too humiliating for them and they couldn't earn enough to feed themselves.
YMMV, of course.
Looking at a second trip in summer.
Previously experienced Bangkok and had some good-to-great experiences with mainly hookups on wechat, smooci, and SWs, BJ bars etc. I'm not really a gogo bar guy but I can see appeal: I'm not so young and can do without the shite music etc. Also, I fear I'd let beer affect performance. This said, does Pattaya have anything for me that I can't find in BKK? I realise it's by the sea but I wouldn't really need beaches and sea. Are lower average prices worth going for? Have read loads of reports of both places but I'm not convinced it's worth my while after what I've experienced in BKK.
Cheers.There is a definite difference between Pattaya and Bangkok. I have been to both and I prefer Pattaya. We are all different and what I like about Pattaya above Bangkok is the ease of doing business. You can get anything you want between Soi 16 and Soi 1 with Baht buses running around the circuit for 24 hours. Some guys claim that the talent pool in Bangkok is superior and I do not think I'm qualified to make any different claims but everyone has different views on beauty anyhow. Like yourself I am an older guy, late 50's, but I only get away 1 to 2 times a year so I don't let shit music or excessive cigarette smoke put me off. I have scored some great online hook-ups in Pattaya and I have found some great girls in some of the beer bars too. What I like about the gogos in Pattaya is that most are hands on and I know if I am buying drinks the girls are more then accommodating for some light hearted man handling. I think the prices are better in Pattaya.
The only thing to do is to book a couple of days in Pattaya and if it is suited to you stay longer or if you do not like cut your loses and return to Bangkok. When you say summer are you in the northern or southern hemisphere? The weather now is good compared to the wet season which coincides with the northern summer.
Rob.
Mr Enternational
12-03-18, 05:07
I was at a bar on Second Road the other day that a chick I know works at. There was another chick there that appeared to be a FL. She was damn hot. I was sitting next to her. I looked at her nails. They were pretty nice. She went on talking about how they are real. I pointed at her chest and said but them titties ain't real!
She was drinking a beer and I asked her why she is not drinking whiskey. She said the doctor said she can not drink whiskey. Then I was like a deer in headlights. I picked up her pack of cigarettes and said what do these doctors say right here? Then I said there is even a picture. She snatched the box from me saying cover up that picture. Never a dull moment.
Mr Enternational
12-03-18, 05:20
I was walking down Soi Yamato and Soi Post Office the other day. I ran into a young chick that said she works at a bar up the street but was going to get food. I told her to come see me when she finished work. I said give me your phone so I can add my Line. She gave me her phone and just then this Indian guy sent a message saying how cute she is. I said this guy must really like you. She said it was a guy that is going to give her 2000 baht for Short Time later on. I said that is good. When you finish with him, you come see me and I will give you 500 for Long Time. She said I never go for 500. I said okay. I will make it 1000 then. She said okay I will send you message.
Mr Enternational
12-03-18, 05:46
I got a massage and at 10 pm was heading home. I passed a bar on Soi Lengkee that had some nice chicks in it. They yelled out in usual fashion and I turned around and parked. I sat down and shot the shit. The mamasan was a cutie and I told her to bring me a Sangsom with ice and lime. I asked her where all these cuties were from. She said they are from all over in different villages. She pointed out the girls and told me which place each was from (Anybody know the difference between a city and a village? She said one of the girls is from her city, Korat, but they are from different villages.).
A young Korean guy came in and my favorite cutie followed him in. I said oh that is her boyfriend huh? She said no. That same guy comes in every night at the same time and buys drinks and plays pool with her.
I asked about the bar fine and she asked for which girl. I said I don't know. Aren't they all the same? She said 300 for Short Time and 500 for Long Time. Then I don't know how the prices of girls came up, but she was like nobody goes for less than 2000. I said damn that is expensive. She said they can go Short Time for 1000, but they have to be back in 1 hour. She pointed around telling me the chicks' ages.
I was tired as a mf. The mamasan kept massaging me and I eventually fell asleep. I woke up and said let me take my ass home. I paid my bill of 50 baht and went to get on my bike. The mamasan jumped on the back of my bike and told the girls she was leaving. I said I am going for real. She said go. I brought her back at 10 the next morning. No money.
She said the girls stay upstairs at the bar. There are no short time rooms, they just live up there. They are paid 5,000 baht per month. All they have to do is wake up and put on a dress and look pretty (her words). She buys the food. She wakes up and cooks rice and meat for them about 12. At 3 they start working. She also said that if a girl comes in from being with a guy all night and looks like she has not had any rest, then she makes her pay 500 to barfine herself and go get upstairs to get some sleep. She said that every bar pretty much works this same way.
Chocha Monger
12-03-18, 07:38
Thanks for the report. Can we assume from that passage that you never engaged in any "uncool" activity with those top girls?If you mean fucking the top girls raw dog and inseminating them with my trouser-snake venom, then guilty as charged on multiple counts. LOL! Still, I do not see how that ruins anyone else's fun.
HorseTrader
12-03-18, 07:48
Looking at a second trip in summer.
Previously experienced Bangkok and had some good-to-great experiences with mainly hookups on wechat, smooci, and SWs, BJ bars etc. I'm not really a gogo bar guy but I can see appeal: I'm not so young and can do without the shite music etc. Also, I fear I'd let beer affect performance. This said, does Pattaya have anything for me that I can't find in BKK? I realise it's by the sea but I wouldn't really need beaches and sea. Are lower average prices worth going for? Have read loads of reports of both places but I'm not convinced it's worth my while after what I've experienced in BKK.
Cheers.Based on my limited experience, Pattaya has a different look and feel from Bangkok, you might like it. Book Pattaya for 2 or 3 days early in your trip and leave yourself some flexibility in case you want to stay longer. As others have said, you might like Soi 6, which was my favorite part.
Have read loads of reports of both places but I'm not convinced it's worth my while after what I've experienced in BKK.Do you think more reports will convince you? There will always be lovers and haters of Pattaya and people who are in between. You really have to go there yourself to find out to which group you belong.
I belong to the 'in between' group. Pattaya has declined over the years (but so has Bangkok and other monger destinations) but is still worth going to IMO.
Just ignore the over the top positive reports (from for example Monkeypaw) and negative reports (from for example EihTooms). They are exxagerated most of the time.
Just ignore the over the top positive reports (from for example Monkeypaw) and negative reports (from for example EihTooms). They are exxagerated most of the time.Where did you think I exaggerated so much (over the top?) in my reply to Penguin69's question that you think he ought to just ignore it?
Well, no, that wasn't really the "uncool" part that I was asking about or what you could have meant when you said "Besides, not cool to knock these girls up, spread shit around & ruin the fun for others", right? I don't believe girls are getting knocked up or anyone risks those other things if they are openly groped in the bar. But if you'd rather not answer my question, no problem, of course.
Oh didn't realize that's what you meant.
No, I haven't done any of those things. IE: knock girls up, spread shit, etc.
In my original post, I only brought that up in regards to top gogo girls not appreciating guys asking to bareback on their first session.
In general, I don't think its cool to bareback working girls. Not unless there is some serious trust between both parties.
At the end of the day, when going bareback, girl has a lot more at risk than the guy. She's already likely less financially stable than the monger, at risk of having a kid & potentially having to raise it herself, and stds? Whereas the guy only has to worry about stds.
Where did you think I exaggerated so much (over the top?) in my reply to Penguin69's question that you think he ought to just ignore it?Uhm... in the entire post?
Uhm... in the entire post?Silly answer. And a dodge.
Oh didn't realize that's what you meant.
No, I haven't done any of those things. IE: knock girls up, spread shit, etc.
In my original post, I only brought that up in regards to top gogo girls not appreciating guys asking to bareback on their first session.
In general, I don't think its cool to bareback working girls. Not unless there is some serious trust between both parties.
At the end of the day, when going bareback, girl has a lot more at risk than the guy. She's already likely less financially stable than the monger, at risk of having a kid & potentially having to raise it herself, and stds? Whereas the guy only has to worry about stds.No, I wasn't asking if you knocked up the girls, spread shit, etc. either. LOL. But I think you answered my question anyway. Thanks.
Silly answer. And a dodge.I'm not dodging anything. The entire post is extremely negative. It's your one hundredth rant about Pattaya being a shit hole and that there are hardly any attractive girls there. We got that the first time already.
I'm not dodging anything. The entire post is extremely negative. It's your one hundredth rant about Pattaya being a shit hole and that there are hardly any attractive girls there. We got that the first time already.That is an over the top exaggeration of what is actually stated in my post. I recommend anyone but the middle of the road uncommitted to any position on the issue to ignore what you posted here.
Actually, I did not tell Penquin69 that the place was a "shit hole". Did you even read my reply to him? If anything, I merely reinforced and confirmed what Phazze63 had to say about the relative rarity of very good looking girls in Pattaya. So rare that even he could only cite 5 go-go bars on Walking Street as locations where some might be found. Pretty much what I had to say about it too. He did not even find one girl worth spending his P4P time with in any of the other non go-go bar venues and those are the ones Penguin69 is most curious about! The only way I took my assessment of the destination further than he did was in giving my opinion why the various levels of P4P girls below "top stunners" stay lower in Pattaya than in Bangkok.
Is Phazze63 an over the top exaggerated negative Pattaya poster, too?
No, I wasn't asking if you knocked up the girls, spread shit, etc. either. LOL. But I think you answered my question anyway. Thanks.
lol care to clarify then?
If anything, I merely reinforced and confirmed what Phazze63 had to say about the relative rarity of very good looking girls in Pattaya. So rare that even he could only cite 5 go-go bars on Walking Street as locations where some might be found. Pretty much what I had to say about it too. He did not even find one girl worth spending his P4P time with in any of the other non go-go bar venues and those are the ones Penguin69 is most curious about! The only way I took my assessment of the destination further than he did was in giving my opinion why the various levels of P4P girls below "top stunners" stay lower in Pattaya than in Bangkok.
Is Phazze63 an over the top exaggerated negative Pattaya poster, too?
I can't speak for other mongers, but I am very particular. I will say, there were plenty of good looking girls... but I was & will always be after a very specific classification of stunner.
that being said, i generally wouldn't be shocked if there were more top 1% stunners in bangkok than in pattaya. Bkk is a cool big city after all. like comparing New Jersey and New York City.
That is an over the top exaggeration of what is actually stated in my post. I recommend anyone but the middle of the road uncommitted to any position on the issue to ignore what you posted here.
Actually, I did not tell Penquin69 that the place was a "shit hole". Did you even read my reply to him? If anything, I merely reinforced and confirmed what Phazze63 had to say about the relative rarity of very good looking girls in Pattaya. So rare that even he could only cite 5 go-go bars on Walking Street as locations where some might be found. Pretty much what I had to say about it too. He did not even find one girl worth spending his P4P time with in any of the other non go-go bar venues and those are the ones Penguin69 is most curious about! The only way I took my assessment of the destination further than he did was in giving my opinion why the various levels of P4P girls below "top stunners" stay lower in Pattaya than in Bangkok.
Is Phazze63 an over the top exaggerated negative Pattaya poster, too?No, Phazze93's posts about Pattaya are more 'balanced' with both positive and negative remarks. Yours always seem to be very negative which is getting annoying if you ask me.
And Phazze93 didn't say there are only 5 gogo-bars where you can find good looking girls. He only said those 5 bars were his favorites.
that being said, i generally wouldn't be shocked if there were more top 1% stunners in bangkok than in pattaya. Bkk is a cool big city after all. like comparing New Jersey and New York City.I agree. Comparing BKK and Pattaya is a bit like comparing apples and oranges. BKK has around 14 million inhabitants versus Pattaya around 100.000.
Looking at a second trip in summer.
Previously experienced Bangkok and had some good-to-great experiences with mainly hookups on wechat, smooci, and SWs, BJ bars etc. I'm not really a gogo bar guy but I can see appeal: I'm not so young and can do without the shite music etc. Also, I fear I'd let beer affect performance. This said, does Pattaya have anything for me that I can't find in BKK? I realise it's by the sea but I wouldn't really need beaches and sea. Are lower average prices worth going for? Have read loads of reports of both places but I'm not convinced it's worth my while after what I've experienced in BKK.
Cheers.Spent a week in Pattaya recently. Decided to skip the WS go-go bars all together this time and focus on the LK Metro area. I think if you are a middle aged western guy this area really will provide what you need. I took 4 girls from the Billabong bar. Ladys here are around 30 years or above, but some of them are quite pretty, 3-4 of them at least. A very nice experience with all of them. Paid around 2500 bath for the whole night. One of them stayed with me all of next day. These are freelancer and wear a "badge" so you know they are not service girls. 300 bath barfine to the bar. Had one girl from Thai Friendly; very pretty girl, a bit of a fashion queen. Said she received 25-50 requests for sex every day. So I guess I felt lucky. Her performance was so-so and I was happy when she left after 2 hours. Paid her only 1000 bath and she was happy! A bit ting-tong girl actually. Also had 2 girls from LK Metro bars. Went there late around 2:30 AM and agreed to meet them after the go-go close at 3:00 AM. No problem and nice girls, GFE and good performance. I paid them 3000 I think. All night. A good advice also mentioned by some of the youtube vloggers; set your expectations low when in Pattaya. Then you might be surprised what you find! Forget about the top end girls in the top end WS go-go's if you are not wealthy or Korean; much better service will be given by less attractive but still sexy girls and in other areas. So, all in all LK Metro area provided with me with a good result this time. Much better than chasing the WS topend girls. In addition LK Metro / Soi Bukaow area have some really cool bars now. The area is thriving!
The Trooper
12-03-18, 15:41
Looking at a second trip in summer.
Previously experienced Bangkok and had some good-to-great experiences with mainly hookups on wechat, smooci, and SWs, BJ bars etc. I'm not really a gogo bar guy but I can see appeal: I'm not so young and can do without the shite music etc. Also, I fear I'd let beer affect performance. This said, does Pattaya have anything for me that I can't find in BKK? I realise it's by the sea but I wouldn't really need beaches and sea. Are lower average prices worth going for? Have read loads of reports of both places but I'm not convinced it's worth my while after what I've experienced in BKK.
Cheers.Pattaya has a greater volume of women and areas / establishments in close proximity. You will spend far less time commuting and you will see far more available women each day. This makes things very convenient. There is also an unequaled sexual energy in Pattaya that I can't begin to describe. For someone who likes areas of the world such as this, it's a must see, must experience location. In my opinion there is no where like it in the world. It's only a 109 baht bus ride from Bangkok and you'll be there in 2 hours.
Also If you don't like gogos and aren't a drinker that won't be a problem in Pattaya. There are 100's of establishments that aren't gogos. There are countless beer bars, regular bars, lounge bars, massage parlors and a multitude of freelancers that you can invite to spend time with you and skip the bar scene altogether. I will often order juice or soda as I like to go for long periods without drinking. When you buy ladydrinks most of the girls order soda anyway, so it won't seem unusual to them.
I'm not saying it's better than Bangkok. To each their own. I have a great time in Bangkok and there is far more to do and see there outside of chasing women. The food is also far superior in Bangkok and cheaper and the women tend to dress classier, which I like.
lol care to clarify then?
I was only asking if you ever did engage in bareback (BBFS+CIP) with those top quality girls.
No, Phazze93's posts about Pattaya are more 'balanced' with both positive and negative remarks. Yours always seem to be very negative which is getting annoying if you ask me.
And Phazze93 didn't say there are only 5 gogo-bars where you can find good looking girls. He only said those 5 bars were his favorites.Phazze93's bottom line assessment of Pattaya as a mongering destination is virtually identical to what I have been saying about it;
- That there are a small number of top (looking) girls in a small group of WS go-go bars if you care to search them out, leap through flaming hoops and pay dearly to take your chances with them. Otherwise, he had no interest in pulling girls from any other venue options in town. He apparently only pulled one girl from a go-go bar outside that small group of WS go-go bars and seemed to me to have been so bored by the experience he will likely not do it again any time soon. Unless the top (looking) girls move to other bars.
In many ways, Phazze93's bottom line conclusions about Pattaya as a mongering destination are more negative than mine. I actually allowed that the above average P4P girls in Pattaya would be "barely" acceptable to someone who is fine taking that level of girl in Bangkok. He took NONE who were not either from the pool of top (looking) girls in those particular WS go-go bars and one relatively close to them. NONE from any other venue option where those above average P4P girls work.
The only difference between his conclusions and what I have been saying about it is I have given what I believe are some of the reasons the girls below the top (looking) girls are inferior to that same level of girl in Bangkok. And I am not talking about just looks. I have done that because I believe the problem is systemic and not just a bad week in Pattaya and it will be better next week. It won't. The real world conditions there are simply not conducive to drawing more than a very few top (looking) Thai girls to the destination to service Pattaya's customers. And those girls aren't going to touch Pattaya's typical customer with a barge pole.
There was only one small question I had of Phazzee93 that, had it been answered very differently, might have been a case where my stated opinion of the place FOR ME ought to be reconsidered. And, frankly, so far he has not answered it any different than I would have predicted and already have assessed about the place.
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I can't speak for other mongers, but I am very particular. I will say, there were plenty of good looking girls... but I was & will always be after a very specific classification of stunner.
that being said, i generally wouldn't be shocked if there were more top 1% stunners in bangkok than in pattaya. Bkk is a cool big city after all. like comparing New Jersey and New York City.I am very particular too, but not exclusively about the girls' looks. Not saying that is what you mean. But it does sound that way. I am generally interested in girls of a certain minimum (or higher) level of attractiveness or cuteness, does not have to be a top 1% stunner but above average at least, who will provide me with what I consider a True GFE. Demeanor counts for a lot as well. In terms of actual sexual services, that is basically either a genuine BBBJ+CIM or BBFS+CIP. That is where my being very particular comes in. If neither of those activities are in the mix, a top looking stunner is of no more interest to me in my room than a lovely potted plant.
Plenty of good looking girls? Other than the top (looking) girls who mostly work in those particular WS go-go bars and are otherwise almost non-existent in the eyes of anyone who does not frequent those bars, I can't say what passes for above average in Pattaya is anywhere close to what passes for that level of girl in Bangkok. Not in their level of looks or, in my experience, their quality of service. And I honestly believe there is a systemic reason for that and not a matter of random chance. Above average girls (for Pattaya) don't need to be as good looking or provide as competitive a quality of service as their Bangkok counterparts to get by and fit in with the typical Pattaya customer demographic.
I am very particular too, but not exclusively about the girls' looks. Not saying that is what you mean. But it does sound that way. I am generally interested in girls of a certain minimum (or higher) level of attractiveness or cuteness, does not have to be a top 1% stunner but above average at least, who will provide me with what I consider a True GFE. Demeanor counts for a lot as well. In terms of actual sexual services, that is basically either a genuine BBBJ+CIM or BBFS+CIP. That is where my being very particular comes in. If neither of those activities are in the mix, a top looking stunner is of no more interest to me in my room than a lovely potted plant.
Plenty of good looking girls? Other than the top (looking) girls who mostly work in those particular WS go-go bars and are otherwise almost non-existent in the eyes of anyone who does not frequent those bars, I can't say what passes for above average in Pattaya is anywhere close to what passes for that level of girl in Bangkok. Not in their level of looks or, in my experience, their quality of service. And I honestly believe there is a systemic reason for that and not a matter of random chance. Above average girls (for Pattaya) don't need to be as good looking or provide as competitive a quality of service as their Bangkok counterparts to get by and fit in with the typical Pattaya customer demographic.I am at the other end of the spectrum I guess, there are times I walk into a bar and know that every girl for me is fuckable. Then there's times I go into a bar and know right off the bat its crap. So I do have some sort of minimum standards somewhere. I once took a drunk gogo girl who knew me from Sapphire who was pissed I never bought her a drink, met her at another gogo so there was no barfine and I thought to myself "I've never taken a drunk girl back to my room" and just went with it. Did her five times that night and gave her 2 k in the morning. Worth every penny.
He apparently only pulled one girl from a go-go bar outside that small group of WS go-go bars and seemed to me to have been so bored by the experience he will likely not do it again any time soon. Unless the top (looking) girls move to other bars.
In many ways, Phazze93's bottom line conclusions about Pattaya as a mongering destination are more negative than mine. I actually allowed that the above average P4P girls in Pattaya would be "barely" acceptable to someone who is fine taking that level of girl in Bangkok. He took NONE who were not either from the pool of top (looking) girls in those particular WS go-go bars and one relatively close to them. NONE from any other venue option where those above average P4P girls work.
I took a few non-top girls from Palace, my 1st two nights. 1st one was a bust, 2nd was a good performer.
But to be honest, both girls were beneath me in terms of looks. Comparable to dating beneath you & these are girls aren't so dumb where they don't notice.
Especially considering they both asked me the same question the moment we got back to me room - "why did you pick me?" to which I responded "because I think you are one of the prettiest girls at palace".
I lied. And I think they could tell I was bullshitting. In my case, I've always found it a better experience when the girl believes she's on par in looks or above/higher
Otherwise, I feel like you'll either end up with a girl who knows you're bullshitting & won't come back for here again. In which case she doesn't try that hard.
OR you get a girl who, regardless of being aware of your bullshit. Tries really hard to please you in hopes of getting more from you in which case it turns out a bit boring like the girl I pulled from Whats Up.
Though I could be generalizing a bit.
I was only asking if you ever did engage in bareback (BBFS+CIP) with those top quality girls.
Oh, no. Never have.
1 - don't want to risk catching anything & possibly then spreading something.
2 - don't want to risk knocking a girl up. ID feel bad, not the type of guy to just let the girl deal with a kid on their own. Whether the girl is a hooker or non-pro.
I am very particular too, but not exclusively about the girls' looks. Not saying that is what you mean. But it does sound that way. I am generally interested in girls of a certain minimum (or higher) level of attractiveness or cuteness, does not have to be a top 1% stunner but above average at least, who will provide me with what I consider a True GFE. Demeanor counts for a lot as well. In terms of actual sexual services, that is basically either a genuine BBBJ+CIM or BBFS+CIP. That is where my being very particular comes in. If neither of those activities are in the mix, a top looking stunner is of no more interest to me in my room than a lovely potted plant.
Plenty of good looking girls? Other than the top (looking) girls who mostly work in those particular WS go-go bars and are otherwise almost non-existent in the eyes of anyone who does not frequent those bars, I can't say what passes for above average in Pattaya is anywhere close to what passes for that level of girl in Bangkok. Not in their level of looks or, in my experience, their quality of service. And I honestly believe there is a systemic reason for that and not a matter of random chance. Above average girls (for Pattaya) don't need to be as good looking or provide as competitive a quality of service as their Bangkok counterparts to get by and fit in with the typical Pattaya customer demographic.
No you're right and I agree. Its not just looks. What good is looks if she's not into it or isn't at least open to the possibility of having a decent time with a customer? But I never do BBFS + CIP. I think I might consider it if my stays were longer & I could build some kind of understanding / trust with a girl. THAT and she would have to be on birth control.
What I meant by "plenty of good looking girls" is. There are plenty that I would fuck & be fine with. But I don't go for just "fine" nor do I stay long enough to where I'm ok with accepting "fine".
I am at the other end of the spectrum I guess, there are times I walk into a bar and know that every girl for me is fuckable. Then there's times I go into a bar and know right off the bat its crap. So I do have some sort of minimum standards somewhere. I once took a drunk gogo girl who knew me from Sapphire who was pissed I never bought her a drink, met her at another gogo so there was no barfine and I thought to myself "I've never taken a drunk girl back to my room" and just went with it. Did her five times that night and gave her 2 k in the morning. Worth every penny.My point to EihTooms, yea there are a good amount of "fuckable" girls but only a handful that I'd classify as true stunners. Power to you for being able to fuck 5 times in a night lol.
I think I cap out at 3? Though each of my rounds are extended in time so by the 3rd round, I'm exhausted physically and my dick is sore hah.
Mr Enternational
12-04-18, 07:04
Otherwise, I feel like you'll either end up with a girl who knows you're bullshitting & won't come back for here again. In which case she doesn't try that hard.Are most guys going back for the same chick like that? Most of the time when I fuck the same chick then it is because I fucked up and didn't remember fucking her until she brings it up later.
Are most guys going back for the same chick like that? Most of the time when I fuck the same chick then it is because I fucked up and didn't remember fucking her until she brings it up later.I have heard from a reliable source some guys have gone back to the same girl 5 times. He hasn't mentioned it in any of his post. LOL.
Are most guys going back for the same chick like that? Most of the time when I fuck the same chick then it is because I fucked up and didn't remember fucking her until she brings it up later.
I have heard from a reliable source some guys have gone back to the same girl 5 times. He hasn't mentioned it in any of his post. LOL.
Yea I've gone back for the same girl multiple times on more than 1 occasion. Just depends on the girl. Looks / attractiveness, chemistry, etc.
Really not sure what the big deal about that is lol. Telling me to not fuck the same girl multiple times is like me telling you which girl you should be attracted to.
Is there really a "right way" to monger? Or better to just do whatever the fuck you want, whenever the fuck you want, w/ whoever the fuck you want so long as thats what satisfies you?
Or perhaps the stigma stems from mongers not being able to flex their e-peen w/ other mongers on how many hookers they've been able to pay to fuck them? lol please.
Personally, i'd rather fuck a 10 five times, than fuck five different 7's. That is unless I find myself surrounded by multiple 10's in which case i'd be more motivated to mix it up. Thats just me.
But hey, if fucking a different 7/average looking girl every night is you're thing, go for it. The fuck do I care lol.
If I only wanted to fuck different 7's all the time, I'd just stay at home in the US. But I monger so I can fuck 10's w/o any expectations/no strings attached from the girl - which is easier said than done w/ non-pros.
(Also less effort/work involved)
But on that note, what girl wouldn't want a handful of steady / consistent customers as opposed to fucking a new random stranger every night?
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Oh, no. Never have.
1 - don't want to risk catching anything & possibly then spreading something.
2 - don't want to risk knocking a girl up. ID feel bad, not the type of guy to just let the girl deal with a kid on their own. Whether the girl is a hooker or non-pro.Thanks for your reply on that. In my case, I just can't finish wearing a condom, never could even when I was your age. Now I am 65! And, to make things even more impossible, I am fairly steeped in BBFS+CIP with good looking/cute (to my taste) Thai girls in their 20's and early 30's so it is just never going to happen that I will now slip on a condom and feel horny for whatever is in front of me. I doubt you have been reading my posts much, but my way of trying to be safer under those circumstances is I got a vasectomy many years ago and I always have a recent, within 1-2 months, blood check document from a reliable clinic re HIV and 1-2 other STDs. Yes, I realize that will only tell me so much up to a few weeks or couple of months prior to the date of my blood test. But it is better than nothing. And it turns out I have been barebacking for about 46 years, thousands of different women from around the world, mostly P4P of course, and have not produced an unwanted pregnancy or gotten sick from sex in my life except for a dose of easily treatable trichomonas from a university girlfriend when I was 19. Therefore, I have also never made a girl sick from sex. lol. At least not in the transmission of disease sense. For whatever that is worth.
No you're right and I agree. Its not just looks. What good is looks if she's not into it or isn't at least open to the possibility of having a decent time with a customer? But I never do BBFS + CIP. I think I might consider it if my stays were longer & I could build some kind of understanding / trust with a girl. THAT and she would have to be on birth control.Ah, there is another systemic issue about Pattaya that works against me. As transient as it can be for punters in Bangkok, the girls in Pattaya have every reason to believe the punters they encounter are even more transient. For most punters, Pattaya is a side trip within perhaps a longer but often also a side trip to Bangkok/Thailand. And the girls know it. Not only does that enable them to be more mischievous with our time and money, but that means the concept of me possibly establishing more of an ongoing repeat customer relationship with them is nil. At least I live in Bangkok and when I take the girls to my room in Bangkok, it is abundantly clear to them that I am here to stay and would be a rather nice repeat customer catch if I do say so myself. That certainly helps with regard to my BBFS+CIP requirement and often my BBBJ+CIM option requirement as well.
Thanks for your reply on that. In my case, I just can't finish wearing a condom, never could even when I was your age. Now I am 65! And, to make things even more impossible, I am fairly steeped in BBFS+CIP with good looking/cute (to my taste) Thai girls in their 20's and early 30's so it is just never going to happen that I will now slip on a condom and feel horny for whatever is in front of me. I doubt you have been reading my posts much, but my way of trying to be safer under those circumstances is I got a vasectomy many years ago and I always have a recent, within 1-2 months, blood check document from a reliable clinic re HIV and 1-2 other STDs. Yes, I realize that will only tell me so much up to a few weeks or couple of months prior to the date of my blood test. But it is better than nothing. And it turns out I have been barebacking for about 46 years, thousands of different women from around the world, mostly P4P of course, and have not produced an unwanted pregnancy or gotten sick from sex myself so have also never made a girl sick from sex. lol. At least not in the transmission of disease sense. For whatever that is worth.
Ah, there is another systemic issue about Pattaya that works against me. As transient as it can be for punters in Bangkok, the girls in Pattaya have every reason to believe the punters they encounter are even more transient. For most punters, Pattaya is a side trip within perhaps a longer but often also a side trip to Bangkok / Thailand. And the girls know it. Not only does that enable them to be more mischievous with our time and money, but that means the concept of me possibly establishing more of an ongoing repeat customer relationship with them is nil. At least I live in Bangkok and when I take the girls to my room in Bangkok, it is abundantly clear to them that I am here to stay and would be a rather nice repeat customer catch if I do say so myself. That certainly helps with regard to my BBFS+CIP requirement and often my BBBJ+CIM option requirement as well.A vasectomy definitely helps lol, I'll probably do the same somewhere down the road. Still a bit early for me now. And agreed regarding pattaya girls impression of punters potential for being long term customers. Not really much I can say except that I travel to Bangkok for work and I come to pattaya after work lol.
Thanks for the report. Can we assume from that passage that you never engaged in any "uncool" activity with those top girls?
If you mean fucking the top girls raw dog and inseminating them with my trouser-snake venom, then guilty as charged on multiple counts. LOL! Still, I do not see how that ruins anyone else's fun.Ah, I have not ignored or forgotten about your reply to me, Mr. Monger. I just wanted to give Phazze63 a chance to reply first. Also, I didn't know if you were being a bit funny the way you do sometimes in the Philippines/Angeles City threads. And I do think you are often VERY funny in your posts. I mean that in the best way.
So, DO tell. Is there any more insight you can give us about this? Are you talking about the same 4-5 go-go bars on WS in Pattaya as have been mentioned for attracting the top best looking girls in the city? What was your game to accomplish that goal other than your innate charm and striking good looks? Are you also young, fit and Asian? Please share what you are comfortable sharing.
You know, depending on the answers about this issue in general, I just might go down there and give those good looking, fit, 20-something year old Asian punters in those places some competition sometime. I mean, maybe I should if it turns out there are many more times when such a True GFE can be had with those girls that a whole bunch of other punters are just not into taking advantage of anyway. Why not give those girls a chance to say "no" to me as well as the golden opportunity to say "YES!", right?
Christian G
12-05-18, 10:01
https://pattayaone.news/en/alleged-underage-prostitution/
https://pattayaone.news/en/alleged-underage-prostitution/That's the bar I walked away from when I was asked 450 thb for the room. I wish it were raided on account of overcharging for rooms.
Thanks for feedback on the various merits of a visit to Pattaya.
On balance it might be worth a visit for me, not least out of curiosity. I take the point about drinking and age-competition (Am 49 but younger-looking, often passing for late 30's or early 40's). I'm quite realistic about my 'pulling power' vis-a-vis younger guys, though. When I referred to reading loads of posts I meant reports, mainly, and not such comparisons of performance and physical attraction between the two locations we're considering, so it's good to get this marked-up.
Banana Boi
12-05-18, 15:23
I believe that is one of the nightwish group. If so will be a lot of heat on soi 6 as they own a large part of the soi bars. 16 and 17 year old girls. Dumb dumb dumb.
Chocha Monger
12-05-18, 16:05
Ah, I have not ignored or forgotten about your reply to me, Mr. Monger. I just wanted to give Phazze63 a chance to reply first. Also, I didn't know if you were being a bit funny the way you do sometimes in the Philippines/Angeles City threads. And I do think you are often VERY funny in your posts. I mean that in the best way.
So, DO tell. Is there any more insight you can give us about this? Are you talking about the same 4-5 go-go bars on WS in Pattaya as have been mentioned for attracting the top best looking girls in the city? What was your game to accomplish that goal other than your innate charm and striking good looks? Are you also young, fit and Asian? Please share what you are comfortable sharing.
You know, depending on the answers about this issue in general, I just might go down there and give those good looking, fit, 20-something year old Asian punters in those places some competition sometime. I mean, maybe I should if it turns out there are many more times when such a True GFE can be had with those girls that a whole bunch of other punters are just not into taking advantage of anyway. Why not give those girls a chance to say "no" to me as well as the golden opportunity to say "YES!", right?Well, I am no 27-year-old Chinese stud adroit at performing cunnilingus on the top Thai hookers and making them cum! Therefore, I am not claiming to lick on their clits in Mandarin causing them to fall madly in love with me. The so-called "uncool" behavior that I referred to was going bareback and squirting my goo in their pussies. In spite of being a regular wanker, I occasionally get an unsolicited free pity fuck from a top girl. I guess I am the sort of fella who just looks like he could really use a free fuck unlike the young handsome Asian studs with stacks of baht. Maybe, the top girls find it amusing to fuck a very funny rogue elephant man. Anyhow, I hope that helps. LOL!
Christian G
12-05-18, 16:50
I believe that is one of the nightwish group. If so will be a lot of heat on soi 6 as they own a large part of the soi bars. 16 and 17 year old girls. Dumb dumb dumb.No, Miss B-Heaven isn't one of the nightwish group.
Banana Boi
12-05-18, 21:01
No, Miss B-Heaven isn't one of the nightwish group.Cool. Always thought it was. Good news but still not good press for soi 6.
YoungAndFun007
12-06-18, 00:34
I believe that is one of the nightwish group. If so will be a lot of heat on soi 6 as they own a large part of the soi bars. 16 and 17 year old girls. Dumb dumb dumb.1st time in Pattaya. 39 American how do I meet guys. Not that way LOL to show me around.
You don't really end anyone to show you around. Just go to walking street and soi 6. You can easily find both. Go to beach road, walking st is at one end. The sois are numbered. It seems like going there for the first time might be hard to figure out things but it's not.
1st time in Pattaya. 39 American how do I meet guys. Not that way LOL to show me around.
1st time in Pattaya. 39 American how do I meet guys. Not that way LOL to show me around.There is a tread for travel announcements so you can broadcast when you are there and other members can contact you by private message. If you just want to know the layout of the joint use google maps street view and you get a good idea of what is where.
There is a tread for travel announcements so you can broadcast when you are there and other members can contact you by private message. If you just want to know the layout of the joint use google maps street view and you get a good idea of what is where.He will need to buy a membership first to activate PMs.
Its $20 very well spent
He will need to buy a membership first to activate PMs.
Its $20 very well spentCouldn't agree more.
Well, I am no 27-year-old Chinese stud adroit at performing cunnilingus on the top Thai hookers and making them cum! Therefore, I am not claiming to lick on their clits in Mandarin causing them to fall madly in love with me. The so-called "uncool" behavior that I referred to was going bareback and squirting my goo in their pussies. In spite of being a regular wanker, I occasionally get an unsolicited free pity fuck from a top girl. I guess I am the sort of fella who just looks like he could really use a free fuck unlike the young handsome Asian studs with stacks of baht. Maybe, the top girls find it amusing to fuck a very funny rogue elephant man. Anyhow, I hope that helps. LOL!
Ouch, am I supposed to be the rich 27 y/o stud in scenario? I'm flattered :)
Teach me your ways elephant man! Can you post some pics of these sweet pity fukin top girls so I can prepare for my next trip?
There's a pretty good costume shop a few blocks away from me.
CallSign Papa
12-06-18, 13:17
Am 49 but younger-looking, often passing for late 30's or early 40's). I'm quite realistic about my 'pulling power' vis-a-vis younger guysMate, come on, it's Pattaya, "pulling power" is totally irrelevant. If there's a girl in Pattaya who won't fuck me, I've yet to find her.
PaulAlbert
12-06-18, 15:30
Are they open on the 6 yet? They've been closed the last few days.
1st time in Pattaya. 39 American how do I meet guys. Not that way LOL to show me around.In general, you can just meet friends and fellow hobbyists at a GoGo or Club or Bar. I have found most people to be approachable (particularly if you are from the same country and age group). Another way I have met people is you barfine a girl and take her to a club (buy a bottle!) . Where she will almost always end up meeting up with a girlfriend who also has a date. I've met some pretty cool people that way too.
Obviously choose your running buddies wisely.
Cool. Always thought it was. Good news but still not good press for soi 6.This is their list of bars.
https://www.pattaya-bars.com/nightwish-group-bars/
A lot of the usual bickering I see here.
Some thoughts: Dressing nicely and grooming yourself will always get you more attention. Period - Thai's love a well dressed man. But a slug is still a slug. It doesn't mean they actually like you or are going to give you any better service. There are girls that are going to FKK you right and girls that won't. And sometimes when you eat their pussy and make them cum they then just get lazy for the rest of the session. But hey, whatever works for whoever, go for it. If you're getting results, more power to you.
What I LIKE about Pattaya vs BKK.
The buses that are always available making that round trip. 5-10 baht every time saves you a lot vs tuk tuk mfs always wanting 200-300 baht to go up the street.
Soi 6. Its just so cheap and easy.
Better looking street working girls. Just my opinion, but I go out at weird times here and there (4-5 am) and even then, the selection of ladies still mulling about, beats BKK, where it just gets gross. And if you're into ladyboys, even some decent looking one's at that hour too.
PLENTY of hot girls vs BKK. Yes, BKK has more. It's one of the largest cities in the world vs a small town 90 minutes south of it. But Pattaya has plenty of QUALITY girls. I went in 25 clubs on Walking Street last night. Passing out my business card to owners / managers. And I was surprised at the level of talent I saw. Some clubs I might not have ever went into, I will NOW for sure. It's there if you look for it. Or just go to Saphire.
The water. Even if it IS gross, having it nearby is nice. Dinner at dusk across from Beach Road is nice.
Crossing the street.
What I like about BKK vs Pattaya.
Nicer short time rooms.
Billboard.
Crazy House (I know its not the same, yadda yadda, but its still the most nekked quality I've seen).
Personally, I've had an easier time finding a GREAT FKK in BKK vs Pattaya.
The soapies and massage places. The level of service at a lower price. Someone point the way if I'm wrong.
Less people trying to sell me chit.
What's FKK stand for?
A lot of the usual bickering I see here.
Some thoughts: Dressing nicely and grooming yourself will always get you more attention. Period - Thai's love a well dressed man. But a slug is still a slug. It doesn't mean they actually like you or are going to give you any better service. There are girls that are going to FKK you right and girls that won't. And sometimes when you eat their pussy and make them cum they then just get lazy for the rest of the session. But hey, whatever works for whoever, go for it. If you're getting results, more power to you.
What I LIKE about Pattaya vs BKK.
The buses that are always available making that round trip. 5-10 baht every time saves you a lot vs tuk tuk mfs always wanting 200-300 baht to go up the street.
Soi 6. Its just so cheap and easy.
Better looking street working girls. Just my opinion, but I go out at weird times here and there (4-5 am) and even then, the selection of ladies still mulling about, beats BKK, where it just gets gross. And if you're into ladyboys, even some decent looking one's at that hour too.
PLENTY of hot girls vs BKK. Yes, BKK has more. It's one of the largest cities in the world vs a small town 90 minutes south of it. But Pattaya has plenty of QUALITY girls. I went in 25 clubs on Walking Street last night. Passing out my business card to owners / managers. And I was surprised at the level of talent I saw. Some clubs I might not have ever went into, I will NOW for sure. It's there if you look for it. Or just go to Saphire.
The water. Even if it IS gross, having it nearby is nice. Dinner at dusk across from Beach Road is nice.
Crossing the street.
What I like about BKK vs Pattaya.
Nicer short time rooms.
Billboard.
Crazy House (I know its not the same, yadda yadda, but its still the most nekked quality I've seen).
Personally, I've had an easier time finding a GREAT FKK in BKK vs Pattaya.
The soapies and massage places. The level of service at a lower price. Someone point the way if I'm wrong.
Less people trying to sell me chit.
A lot of the usual bickering I see here.
Some thoughts: Dressing nicely and grooming yourself will always get you more attention. Period - Thai's love a well dressed man. But a slug is still a slug. It doesn't mean they actually like you or are going to give you any better service. There are girls that are going to FKK you right and girls that won't. And sometimes when you eat their pussy and make them cum they then just get lazy for the rest of the session. But hey, whatever works for whoever, go for it. If you're getting results, more power to you.
A few dudes squawking regarding my comment on going down on a top girl. Service aside, does it not turn YOU on? does for me.
The typical routine of BJ - sex - cum just doesn't do it for me.
I can agree with what SexInStl is saying. I have been to Thailand twice and been to BKK and Pattaya on both occasions. Had a much better time in Pattaya.
Hope this helps.
Cheers.
A lot of the usual bickering I see here.
Some thoughts: Dressing nicely and grooming yourself will always get you more attention. Period - Thai's love a well dressed man. But a slug is still a slug. It doesn't mean they actually like you or are going to give you any better service. There are girls that are going to FKK you right and girls that won't. And sometimes when you eat their pussy and make them cum they then just get lazy for the rest of the session. But hey, whatever works for whoever, go for it. If you're getting results, more power to you.
What I LIKE about Pattaya vs BKK.
The buses that are always available making that round trip. 5-10 baht every time saves you a lot vs tuk tuk mfs always wanting 200-300 baht to go up the street.
Soi 6. Its just so cheap and easy...
What's FKK stand for?It stands for Fuck. Not all forums allow that word so it's just a habit to abbreviate it that way for me.
A few dudes squawking regarding my comment on going down on a top girl. Service aside, does it not turn YOU on? does for me.
The typical routine of BJ - sex - cum just doesn't do it for me.I like it. No squawking intended. Most would still rather you just bust a nut and go though. The one's who DO appreciate it are few and far between though.
I like it. No squawking intended. Most would still rather you just bust a nut and go though. The one's who DO appreciate it are few and far between though.I think at least 90% of the girls like it very much in my experience. Maybe a part of that 90% would rather skip it without expressing it to me though, that's possible.
ForgottenOwl
12-07-18, 12:53
I know at a lot of the blowjob bars you can get head in the common area but I've read online that you can't have sex in the bar area.
Does anyone know anywhere where I can have sex in the bar / common area. Strip Club, Blowjob Bar, anything?
In Pattaya, Bangkok, or anywhere else?
Mr Enternational
12-07-18, 15:29
My last brother has finally come to Thailand. My other 2 brothers and dad have been several times. My mom, stepmom, and 2 aunts have also been. First thing we did was rent a bike for my brother. 1 week 1000 baht. We rode around and ran some errands then we hit Soi 6.
So many chicks on Soi 6. We parked and walked and stopped in to one of my favorite places. Business as usual. We grabbed a girl from outside and walked in and had a drink with the girls. They said 350 for the room 1000 for them. Maybe they did not know who they were dealing with. I always pay 700 and 350 for the room. Who give you that price the chick I was with asked. You and her are about to give me that price! Meanwhile the other chick is punching 900 into my brother's phone. I said no way. 700 for you and 350 for bar. Let's go.
Okay. But do not tell anyone price you pay. I know better than that. We go over to the bar and pay for the drinks and rooms and mamasan told us to pay the girls afterwards in the room. I was going up with my girl but my brother's girl was missing something. Mamasan told him to wait until she went to buy whatever it was. I asked if it was a sponge and she said no. She said it was her first day and she was missing something. Lucky him.
Me and my girl went to the room and the usual she washed me in the shower, went to the bed for BBBJ, then the fucking started. GFE session and no mood ruined. I fucked the brakes off her. I felt like FL Hawk. I don't know if it was their condoms or what. I didn't plan on doing anything so I didn't bring my tools. Girl asked if I wanted her to suck some more. I told her that didn't work on me. Finally skeeted, took another shower, handed over 700 baht, and was out of there.
Member #4591
12-07-18, 16:51
I know at a lot of the blowjob bars you can get head in the common area but I've read online that you can't have sex in the bar area.
Does anyone know anywhere where I can have sex in the bar / common area. Strip Club, Blowjob Bar, anything?
In Pattaya, Bangkok, or anywhere else?I know of a place that falls under the anywhere else choice. Please send me a private message and I will tell you. You can subscribe to the forums subscription for $19.95 to access the private messenger system as I tried to PM you but you cannot receive. The subscription is good for 1 year.
It stands for Fuck. Not all forums allow that word so it's just a habit to abbreviate it that way for me.FKK is an acronym for German sex clubs. If you google the name, you will get the entire shebang, or just look for Banana Boi's recent post where he explains it. I believe it's in the Stupid Shit in Thailand thread.
A few days ago I took a girl ST at one of the Soi 6 bars. 300 baht room and 1000 baht to the girl. She said that the bar pays her 10 thousand baht per month to work there. And she sleeps in one of the rooms there. A lot of the girls on Soi 6 that I have taken have told me that they sleep onsite if they are permanents there.
Last night I took a chick ST at The Pussy Club on Soi 6. 400 baht room, and 1000 baht to the girl. The girl was complaining that high season this year was no good. When I asked her why she said it was because of Miss-BHaven bar and their employment of 16 and 17 year old girls. That didn't sound like a good reason to me but that is what she said. Miss BHaven bar is still shuttered up.
I know at a lot of the blowjob bars you can get head in the common area but I've read online that you can't have sex in the bar area.
Does anyone know anywhere where I can have sex in the bar / common area. Strip Club, Blowjob Bar, anything?
In Pattaya, Bangkok, or anywhere else?In Bangkok there is Kangaroo bar and Star of Light on Patpong road. On soi Cowboy, Toy bar has the famous naughty boys corner. I have never partaken as that is not my style.
PaulAlbert
12-08-18, 00:15
A few days ago I took a girl ST at one of the Soi 6 bars. 300 baht room and 1000 baht to the girl. She said that the bar pays her 10 thousand baht per month to work there. And she sleeps in one of the rooms there. A lot of the girls on Soi 6 that I have taken have told me that they sleep onsite if they are permanents there.
Last night I took a chick ST at The Pussy Club on Soi 6. 400 baht room, and 1000 baht to the girl. The girl was complaining that high season this year was no good. When I asked her why she said it was because of Miss-BHaven bar and their employment of 16 and 17 year old girls. That didn't sound like a good reason to me but that is what she said. Miss BHaven bar is still shuttered up.I was just there for three weeks, had a different girl, or two each day on the 6. I asked them about the lack of tourists and they noticed it, but didn't know why it was so slow. This was well before the Miss be Haven incident so I doubt her reasons for the slowness. Good to hear the short time rooms are open again, and the Pussy Club is a great and fun place.
Exoticspirit
12-08-18, 04:06
Has anyone here ever stayed at Airbnb places in Pattaya? I see quite a lot of entire condos for $20-$30 but don't know how they are there.
PaulAlbert
12-08-18, 05:17
So I just finished an amazing three week Pattaya trip and am in the process of booking next year (I am totally hooked). I am looking at late September-early October, three more weeks. I have read that it is considered the lowest of the low season, which I am fine with and is kinda what I am looking for. Any help in what that time frame would look like in regards to weather, access to girls and lack of tourists?
Blanquiceleste
12-08-18, 06:22
I was just there for three weeks, had a different girl, or two each day on the 6. I asked them about the lack of tourists and they noticed it, but didn't know why it was so slow. This was well before the Miss be Haven incident so I doubt her reasons for the slowness. Good to hear the short time rooms are open again, and the Pussy Club is a great and fun place.It may have something to do with the exchange rates for GBP / THB. I see a lot of folks from the UK whinging on several other platforms (FB mostly) about how the rate will soon be on par with the dollar.
Blanquiceleste
12-08-18, 06:25
Has anyone here ever stayed at Airbnb places in Pattaya? I see quite a lot of entire condos for $20-$30 but don't know how they are there.Pick the right condo and you can have a great time. Do a search in the Pattaya. Hotels thread. There are several reports. To name a few popular choices. Unixx, Base, Centric, City Garden, Centara.
I like it. No squawking intended. Most would still rather you just bust a nut and go though. The one's who DO appreciate it are few and far between though.Ofc. More common with ST experience. But I'm a LT kind of guy, so the girl has already agreed to stay past 1 pop. In which case, most girls have given better service when I'm not just pounding away like a mindless jackhammer.
I think at least 90% of the girls like it very much in my experience. Maybe a part of that 90% would rather skip it without expressing it to me though, that's possible.Its not necessarily about going down on them, but I think you not treating them like a sex doll LOL. Per my mindless jackhammer comment. Anyways. It turns me on to do it, so I do it to warm myself up if anything.
Wanted to session a girl at Ruby club.
- No room for bumbum.
- Are all rooms busy? I asked.
- No rooms for bumbum. Your hotel.
So I went away, being in no mood to lose more time in towing a girl to where I live.
Had a good session at Hero Club next door. Room there was only 300 but the employee at the bar didn't want me to pay upfront. "Pay later" she said. Fair enough. Only when I asked the girl about the barfine to take her on holiday she said it was 1500/ day. Ouch.
Mr Enternational
12-08-18, 10:43
Only when I asked about the barfine to take her on holiday the girl said it was 1500/ day. Ouch.Why not find a freelance chick to take on holiday?
I like it. No squawking intended. Most would still rather you just bust a nut and go though. The one's who DO appreciate it are few and far between though.I don't know if it is a cultural thing. US hookers see DATY as a bonus. I can't recall doing a prostitute in the US who did not like it.
Member #4591
12-08-18, 15:37
Wanted to session a girl at Ruby club.
- No room for bumbum.
- Are all rooms busy? I asked.
- No rooms for bumbum. Your hotel.
So I went away, being in no mood to lose more time in towing a girl to where I live.
Had a good session at Hero Club next door. Room there was only 300 but the employee at the bar didn't want me to pay upfront. "Pay later" she said. Fair enough. Only when I asked the girl about the barfine to take her on holiday she said it was 1500/ day. Ouch.1500 sounds reasonable to me. She needs to stop work and the bar loses the lady for that period of time. For this kind of thing you should be using Thai Friendly to find a freelancer if you don't want to pay the bar fine. 1500 per day is common sense. On a side note, lighten up. You are in Thailand and no need to get upset if one bar does not have rooms available. Just move on like you did.
Christian G
12-08-18, 15:48
Has anyone here ever stayed at Airbnb places in Pattaya? I see quite a lot of entire condos for $20-$30 but don't know how they are there.You posted the same question on 28th November here http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?1875-Pattaya-Hotels&p=2255050&viewfull=1#post2255050.
And you've already received our answers. Why post the same question again in the wrong thread?
1500 sounds reasonable to me. She needs to stop work and the bar loses the lady for that period of time. For this kind of thing you should be using Thai Friendly to find a freelancer if you don't want to pay the bar fine. 1500 per day is common sense. ..This girl wanted 2000 for herself per day, which was reasonable compared to what other girls ask for. 2000 + 1500 = 3500/ day.
3500/ day is still okayish but most girls would want to earn at least 3000, which brings the total to 4500. That's 45000 thb for a 10-day holiday. Plus food, transport and minimal shopping of course.
I've found the supply of girls online to be very disappointing, at least in Pattaya. I have the impression I would have to invite 30 online girls over before I stumbled upon one I'd like to repeat. What I see swiping on Tinder or perusing TF for Pattaya is less attractive to me than what I come across in just one soi 6 bar. Online = Beach Road.
I was wondering whether the police was starting to crack down on short time rooms on soi 6.
Member #4591
12-08-18, 17:37
This girl wanted 2000 for herself per day, which was reasonable compared to what other girls ask for. 2000 + 1500 = 3500/ day.
3500/ day is still okayish but most girls would want to earn at least 3000, which brings the total to 4500. That's 45000 thb for a 10-day holiday. Plus food, transport and minimal shopping of course.
I've found the supply of girls online to be very disappointing, at least in Pattaya. I have the impression I would have to invite 30 online girls over before I stumbled upon one I'd like to repeat. What I see swiping on Tinder or perusing TF for Pattaya is less attractive to me than what I come across in just one soi 6 bar. Online = Beach Road.
I was wondering whether the police was starting to crack down on short time rooms on soi 6.I'm confused now. First you said ouch insinuating expensive but hen this girl wanted only 2000 + 1500= 3500 and you said it was ok. Then you talk about most girls wanting 3000 +1500= 4500. Why? It's not relevant. The girl you wanted was the 3500. As for soi 6, some of the bars don't want to be linked to prostitution so having the rooms onsite is a closer link to the bar. Anyways, I fail to see the logic of your post about the girls. You have a better chance of liking a girl from a dating site than a random bar girl you meet one time. Come on man, what are you really talking about here? I'm lost!
My advice about finding a girl to go on holiday with you is this. Find a girl on TF and build a nice rapport with her. Go on a few short dates and more than likely she will go with you for free if she does not have a day job. If she is a freelancer, 2000 per day for 10 days is 20,000 and she has no expenses to pay for food or hotel so she will be all good. You think way too much! Enjoy Thailand.
Here are some profiles I just searched and it was so easy to find good looking and sexy girls in Pattaya on TF. They will stack up against any soi 6 girl I have ever seen. Heck, many soi 6 girls even have TF profiles. I also will include a photo without a profile because I want this one for myself. She agreed to 1500 per day for 7 days. I wont give you her profile lol but enjoy her photo in doggystyle. All this happened in the last 15 minutes. I found 4 good ladies and the one who sent me the sexy pic made the deal for 1500 per day. So whats the problem. Maybe I should offer to teach a course for you guys lol.
Mr Enternational
12-08-18, 21:18
I've found the supply of girls online to be very disappointing, at least in Pattaya. I have the impression I would have to invite 30 online girls over before I stumbled upon one I'd like to repeat. What I see swiping on Tinder or perusing TF for Pattaya is less attractive to me than what I come across in just one soi 6 bar. Online = Beach Road.So why not just meet a chick while you are out walking around? You don't have to go online, and you don't have to go to a bar. You can just talk to the one you physically like and see if you click with her. I'm lost too. It ain't that hard to meet chicks; and in Pattaya of all places. Just see one, smile, and say where you going.
Mr Enternational
12-08-18, 21:22
Here are some profiles I just searched and it was so easy to find good looking and sexy girls in Pattaya on TF. They will stack up against any soi 6 girl I have ever seen. Heck, many soi 6 girls even have TF profiles.I saw the second chick in 808 last night. I remember taking her from there before. She has sharp piercings around her lips. Nothing to write home about. Also I think she works on Soi 6 too.
Banana Boi
12-08-18, 21:43
So why not just meet a chick while you are out walking around? You don't have to go online, and you don't have to go to a bar. You can just talk to the one you physically like and see if you click with her. I'm lost too. It ain't that hard to meet chicks; and in Pattaya of all places. Just see one, smile, and say where you going.Agree. If girls aren't checking you out up and down and smiling at you in pattaya there's something wrong. Just ask one who smiled at you if you like her. Be confident but not cocky in pattaya.
Member #4591
12-08-18, 21:45
I saw the second chick in 808 last night. I remember taking her from there before. She has sharp piercings around her lips. Nothing to write home about. Also I think she works on Soi 6 too.I agree but as I said, these girls are the same as you can meet in soi 6. Curious to know why you took her from 808 before if she is nothing to write home about. With so many choices in Patts, why would you settle on someone you weren’t that fond of?
Steve 9696
12-08-18, 22:26
My last brother has finally come to Thailand. My other 2 brothers and dad have been several times. My mom, stepmom, and 2 aunts have also been. First thing we did was rent a bike for my brother. 1 week 1000 baht. We rode around and ran some errands then we hit Soi 6.
So many chicks on Soi 6. We parked and walked and stopped in to one of my favorite places. Business as usual. We grabbed a girl from outside and walked in and had a drink with the girls. They said 350 for the room 1000 for them. Maybe they did not know who they were dealing with. I always pay 700 and 350 for the room. Who give you that price the chick I was with asked. You and her are about to give me that price! Meanwhile the other chick is punching 900 into my brother's phone. I said no way. 700 for you and 350 for bar. Let's go.
Okay. But do not tell anyone price you pay. I know better than that. We go over to the bar and pay for the drinks and rooms and mamasan told us to pay the girls afterwards in the room. I was going up with my girl but my brother's girl was missing something. Mamasan told him to wait until she went to buy whatever it was. I asked if it was a sponge and she said no. She said it was her first day and she was missing something. Lucky him.
Me and my girl went to the room and the usual she washed me in the shower, went to the bed for BBBJ, then the fucking started. GFE session and no mood ruined. I fucked the brakes off her. I felt like FL Hawk. I don't know if it was their condoms or what. I didn't plan on doing anything so I didn't bring my tools. Girl asked if I wanted her to suck some more. I told her that didn't work on me. Finally skeeted, took another shower, handed over 700 baht, and was out of there.I understand guys who don't have much money and save up for this and every dollar is a big deal. What I don't understand is guys who do this all the time and presumably have money taking satisfaction from out-negotiating a bargirl for $9. 14 that probably means a lot more to her than it does to you. Really? I truly do not understand this mentality. Can you explain why this is so satisfying to you?
ForgottenOwl
12-09-18, 00:34
In Bangkok there is Kangaroo bar and Star of Light on Patpong road. On soi Cowboy, Toy bar has the famous naughty boys corner. I have never partaken as that is not my style.So you can forsure get full service in the Kangaroo bar, Star of Light, Toy Bar in the actual bar area? Not just a handjob?
Franciscass
12-09-18, 01:22
The issue of what is a fair price to pay comes up every so often. Some members have success through on line hook ups with getting lots of freebies while others continuously manage reductions in standard asking rates raising the question is this fair to the girls. I feel it can be argued both ways.
On the one hand a tight budget, a love of mongering alongside the girl freely making the decision to give it up for nothing or taking less than the going rate justifies paying less. On the other hand is it taking advantage of a girl's particular circumstances?
I would argue there is no right or wrong answer, it's complicated. Then again perhaps it simply comes down to one's conscience.
Member #4591
12-09-18, 03:11
I understand guys who don't have much money and save up for this and every dollar is a big deal. What I don't understand is guys who do this all the time and presumably have money taking satisfaction from out-negotiating a bargirl for $9. 14 that probably means a lot more to her than it does to you. Really? I truly do not understand this mentality. Can you explain why this is so satisfying to you?Oh god! We have price police for paying too much and price police for paying too little. We have the safe sex police and......
What the hell is this? We can't win with you guys can we. Better we stop mentioning what we pay then and the rest of you can figure it out on your own. Do you want that?
Steve 9696
12-09-18, 04:28
Oh god! We have price police for paying too much and price police for paying too little. We have the safe sex police and......
What the hell is this? We can't win with you guys can we. Better we stop mentioning what we pay then and the rest of you can figure it out on your own. Do you want that?I didn't say he paid too little. I asked a question. Which I suppose only he can answer. Although, if others derive satisfaction by winning a negotiation over $9. 14 I suppose they might chime in as well.
I didn't say he paid too little. I asked a question. Which I suppose only he can answer. Although, if others derive satisfaction by winning a negotiation over $9. 14 I suppose they might chime in as well.Its called being cheap and not really having "money".
Mr Enternational
12-09-18, 05:09
I agree but as I said, these girls are the same as you can meet in soi 6. Curious to know why you took her from 808 before if she is nothing to write home about. With so many choices in Patts, why would you settle on someone you werent that fond of?I am saying the after was nothing to write home about. Just an average session. She also does not look too good. I just wanted to fuck her because of the weird piercings. I am not like most guys with a list of how things have to be. I might see one thing about a chick (like a hairstyle) and decide I want to take her. And it is only 1000-1200 baht long time so I really can't go wrong.
Mr Enternational
12-09-18, 05:30
I understand guys who don't have much money and save up for this and every dollar is a big deal. What I don't understand is guys who do this all the time and presumably have money taking satisfaction from out-negotiating a bargirl for $9. 14 that probably means a lot more to her than it does to you. Really? I truly do not understand this mentality. Can you explain why this is so satisfying to you?Satisfying? I have explained this before. On Soi 6 there is no set price. The only thing set is the bar fine or room fee. The amount you give the girl is negotiable. I have always given chicks on Soi 6 700 for short time and 1000 for long time, and I have reported doing such. Not my fault people here walk in and take the first price they are given.
Just like last night when me and my brother walked into a tailor shop and asked how much to make a shirt. He said 1000 baht. I said come on man you know that is too much. Then he said 800 baht. Now when I go to him and tell him I want 5 shirts etcetera, I will end up paying 700 baht for each shirt. But of course $9.14 means more to the tailor than it does to me right? Maybe, maybe not.
But the way things work around here is through negotiation. It is just that most people don't understand that and take the first price they are given. So who is really being taken advantage of? The bar girls that gets "out-negotiated" or the punter that does not know to negotiate? No chick is going to go for less than she is going to go for and no tailor will sell a shirt for less than he is going to sell it for.
P.S. It might stand to reason that the guy that did it all the time would have less money. The guy that only did it every blue moon maybe could afford to splurge. If I go into the club once a year then maybe I will get $150 bottle service. If I go into the club every other day then you think I am going to do that?
Franciscass
12-09-18, 06:01
Oh god! We have price police for paying too much and price police for paying too little. We have the safe sex police and......
What the hell is this? We can't win with you guys can we. Better we stop mentioning what we pay then and the rest of you can figure it out on your own. Do you want that?Not to mention the policing police who feel the need to police the forum.
Mr Enternational
12-09-18, 06:05
Its called being cheap and not really having "money".There is a time and place for everything. I don't find it a badge of honor to be a big spender amongst prostitutes. Going on vacation in Maldives is something else. I had to have the water bungalow.
Mr Enternational
12-09-18, 06:20
On the one hand a tight budget, a love of mongering alongside the girl freely making the decision to give it up for nothing or taking less than the going rate justifies paying less. On the other hand is it taking advantage of a girl's particular circumstances?
I would argue there is no right or wrong answer, it's complicated. Then again perhaps it simply comes down to one's conscience.Exactly. No right or wrong answer. Nobody is forcing anybody into anything. It could just as well be that the chick is taking advantage of the guy's situation that doesn't get pussy back home. Making him pay 3000 baht! Next thing you know he is out buying gold for her. For mfs that are used to women or get their love and affection from chicks that are not hookers, then it is just another chick he is fucking.
I have always given chicks on Soi 6 700 for short time and 1000 for long time, and I have reported doing such. Not my fault people here walk in and take the first price they are given.
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My interest in shopping for P4P on Soi 6 began to sour 2-3 years ago when I spent an afternoon and evening there interacting with the half dozen or so "ok" looking girls I could find in various bars and not one of them agreed to give me a BBBJ+CIM for any amount of money. I mean, we never even got to the "How much?" part since the "NO" part of it was so absolute. LOL.
So I must be a prime candidate to learn more from you about Soi 6 Economics and the Art of Hooker Negotiation.
Mind you, I definitely saw many, many girls working on that Soi and in those bars of whom most of the punters reading this thread would agree hands down should not charging more than 700 baht if they expect to get more than 1 roaring drunk customer per week. But there are always a handful of girls who most of us would say look like they could expect 1000 baht and not budge from it. Based on their looks alone, that is.
So for further clarification; are you saying you have never gotten a refusal of your 700 baht ST and 1000 baht LT offer from any and every girl you have ever propositioned on Soi 6? And are you also saying you just as frequently hit on Soi 6 girls who most punters with Thai mongering experience would rate as among the top 10% best lookers on Soi 6 as the ones most of us would not be surprised would be highly flexible in what they would accept and not reject?
Steve 9696
12-09-18, 16:43
Satisfying? I have explained this before. On Soi 6 there is no set price. The only thing set is the bar fine or room fee. The amount you give the girl is negotiable. I have always given chicks on Soi 6 700 for short time and 1000 for long time, and I have reported doing such. Not my fault people here walk in and take the first price they are given.
Just like last night when me and my brother walked into a tailor shop and asked how much to make a shirt. He said 1000 baht. I said come on man you know that is too much. Then he said 800 baht. Now when I go to him and tell him I want 5 shirts etcetera, I will end up paying 700 baht for each shirt. But of course $9.14 means more to the tailor than it does to me right? Maybe, maybe not.
But the way things work around here is through negotiation. It is just that most people don't understand that and take the first price they are given. So who is really being taken advantage of? The bar girls that gets "out-negotiated" or the punter that does not know to negotiate? No chick is going to go for less than she is going to go for and no tailor will sell a shirt for less than he is going to sell it for.
P.S. It might stand to reason that the guy that did it all the time would have less money. The guy that only did it every blue moon maybe could afford to splurge. If I go into the club once a year then maybe I will get $150 bottle service. If I go into the club every other day then you think I am going to do that?Thanks for responding in a constructive way. I would only ask that you consider the following. How long have you been paying 700? Has not Thailand experienced cost of living increases in that time? Perhaps 800 (+$3) or 900 (+$6) is more appropriate and you still didn't take the first offer. Then since Thai girls are like a box of chocolates you never know what you will get top her up to her asking price or more after the fact with a tip depending on the experience.
There is a time and place for everything. I don't find it a badge of honor to be a big spender amongst prostitutes. Going on vacation in Maldives is something else. I had to have the water bungalow.When I read this for the first time I thought you had written "Water Buffalo" instead of "Water Bungalow". Gave me a good laugh. I thought that the legendary Mr. E had finally lost it. Thanks for the image.
Mr Enternational
12-09-18, 19:10
My interest in shopping for P4P on Soi 6 began to sour 2-3 years ago when I spent an afternoon and evening there interacting with the half dozen or so "ok" looking girls I could find in various bars and not one of them agreed to give me a BBBJ+CIM for any amount of money. I mean, we never even got to the "How much?" part since the "NO" part of it was so absolute. LOL.
So I must be a prime candidate to learn more from you about Soi 6 Economics and the Art of Hooker Negotiation.LOL. I have already explained that. I may negotiate price, but never negotiate service. And I never have a problem with service. As I explained the other day, all I told the chick on Soi 6 was let's go to the room. (Actually I was telling her to suck my dick downstairs on the couch. But she said she could not because it is not allowed and there are cameras. I told her it was no problem with me because I did not mind making a video.) When we got there whatever happened happened. When I couldn't cum she asked if it would help for her to suck my dick more. I'm pretty sure she would have had no problem with me CIM. Might have had a problem with YOU CIM; I can not attest to that. As always, YMMV.
So for further clarification; are you saying you have never gotten a refusal of your 700 baht ST and 1000 baht LT offer from any and every girl you have ever propositioned on Soi 6?No. I remember trying to take this chick from Toy Box LT and she would not budge from this astronomical price. Like 3000 baht plus whatever the barfine was.
Mr Enternational
12-09-18, 19:17
Thanks for responding in a constructive way. I would only ask that you consider the following. How long have you been paying 700? Has not Thailand experienced cost of living increases in that time?Why do you say that? Because you are paying more for bar girls? You are paying more for alcohol and cigarettes because the government went up on the taxes? If there has been a cost of living increase then nobody has told my landlord about it (and that is where it counts). I have been paying the same 4500 baht per month for almost the last 9 years. Let's see if anything changes in February when I sign a new contract.
I have also been paying the same 900 baht plus 60 baht tolls to get from the airport to Pattaya for as long as I can remember. So the taxi driver is not seeing it either. But I think the place that I eat breakfast has gone from 79 baht to 84 baht for the American breakfast: eggs, bacon, toast, juice, coffee or tea. So if we take that 5 baht difference and factor it into the 700 baht for a Soi 6 girl, then maybe she should be getting 40 baht more. 740 baht, which she did actually get if you add in the lady drink that I bought her!
Then since Thai girls are like a box of chocolates you never know what you will get top her up to her asking price or more after the fact with a tip depending on the experience.Why insist on giving away money that there is no need to give away? If I give her more do you think she is going to say let me drop by his place and give him a free round? Do you think her pussy would have gotten any wetter? All it does it make you feel good to pay more. I already feel good without paying more. And evidently the girls have no complaints about it either.
P.S. Today my brother bought 2 3 piece suits and 7 shirts. He told my brother 18,600 baht at first. My brother got the price to 17,000 baht. He also wanted 1500 baht to put a special lining in each suit. My brother talked him to do both for that 1500. Should I tell him to tip the guy when his clothes are ready?
Mr Enternational
12-09-18, 19:55
A buddy just moved into a new (to him) house off Khao Talo so I went to check him out today. We were shooting the shit and throwing around stories. He said this one chick that routinely comes over was over and asked him for 5000 baht. He thought she had lost her mind. He said there is no way I am giving you 5000 baht. Then he said that she said something she really did not mean to say. Why you not stupid farang?
He also said that he had taken his car to the dealership and met a foreign guy while there that had bought his chick a motorbike, car, and a condo. He said the guy said the chick was not a bargirl. He also said that the girl would not let him drive either of the vehicles telling him that there is some law that if he is in an accident then it is automatically the foreigners fault. My buddy said the girl walked out when the car was ready and she definitely looked the part of a bargirl. He yelled out telling the guy that he should be the one driving and the girl said absolutely not!
So his new landlord is a rich 46 year old chick. She drives a black Mercedes. He was telling me that she fixed up her guest house for her German boyfriend and before he could finish I said let me guess, the guy never showed up. He said yep. I said well hook me up with her. He said fuck that. With your track record you will fool around and get her upset about something and she will go up on my rent!
My interest in shopping for P4P on Soi 6 began to sour 2-3 years ago when I spent an afternoon and evening there interacting with the half dozen or so "ok" looking girls I could find in various bars and not one of them agreed to give me a BBBJ+CIM for any amount of money. I mean, we never even got to the "How much?" part since the "NO" part of it was so absolute. LOL.
So I must be a prime candidate to learn more from you about Soi 6 Economics and the Art of Hooker Negotiation.
Mind you, I definitely saw many, many girls working on that Soi and in those bars of whom most of the punters reading this thread would agree hands down should not charging more than 700 baht if they expect to get more than 1 roaring drunk customer per week. But there are always a handful of girls who most of us would say look like they could expect 1000 baht and not budge from it. Based on their looks alone, that is.
So for further clarification; are you saying you have never gotten a refusal of your 700 baht ST and 1000 baht LT offer from any and every girl you have ever propositioned on Soi 6? And are you also saying you just as frequently hit on Soi 6 girls who most punters with Thai mongering experience would rate as among the top 10% best lookers on Soi 6 as the ones most of us would not be surprised would be highly flexible in what they would accept and not reject?Have to say this really comes across as an anti-Pattaya comment from a guy who see's Bangkok as King. Simple question to you: How many years have you been living in Bangkok? How many days spent in Pattaya? I'm going to guess the percentage of time spent in Pattaya is around half of a half of a half of a percent. And the opposite is true for Mr E who's spent more time in Pattaya than Bangkok. So its pretty much pointless to keep up this argument unless you move down to Pattaya and Mr E moves up to Bangkok.
Jimmy Boy 99
12-09-18, 22:08
When you pay 700 baht to the girl on Soi 6, do you get the full hour or is it once you come, time is over?
Hello there,
I've been RTFF a while now, and this is the first time for me posting, I will be on my maiden voyage to the LOS tomorrow and will stay for a week. I just wanted to post to thank all of the regular and irregular posters for informing and entertaining me with your reports. I will be posting my adventures when I'm back. My primary hunting grounds will be the clubs and soi 6, and I hope to visit some G-clubs in the little time that I have. You guys have been really helpful, again thanks.Hope your trip goes well. Looking forward to your report, not many reports here on G Clubs.
Banana Boi
12-10-18, 00:17
Have to say this really comes across as an anti-Pattaya comment from a guy who see's Bangkok as King. Simple question to you: How many years have you been living in Bangkok? How many days spent in Pattaya? I'm going to guess the percentage of time spent in Pattaya is around half of a half of a half of a percent. And the opposite is true for Mr E who's spent more time in Pattaya than Bangkok. So its pretty much pointless to keep up this argument unless you move down to Pattaya and Mr E moves up to Bangkok.Exactly. The constant daily Pattaya bashing by ET is getting really boring really fast.
PaulAlbert
12-10-18, 00:45
I just got back from 3 weeks in Pattaya and loved it. Spent all my time at Soi 6 short time with a different girl or two each day, for me it was heaven on earth. I had good luck in Mods Bar, Smoke and Mirrors, SITC, Pussyclub and a few others but those places stood out. My question to fellow board members is do you see the model of whay Soi 6 offers every changing much (I'm not referring to prices going up as they always tend to) I mean in the short time model, buy a drink for her, take her upstairs, pay the room fee and girl and repeat? I hope it never deviates from that as I found it alot of fun and very easy.
... My question to fellow board members is do you see the model of whay Soi 6 offers every changing much (I'm not referring to prices going up as they always tend to) I mean in the short time model, buy a drink for her, take her upstairs, pay the room fee and girl and repeat? I hope it never deviates from that as I found it alot of fun and very easy.Many people including me live in fear of a crack-down on soi 6, like prohibition of short time rooms, or repeated raids causing girls not to work there any more. When that happens my sex-life in Thailand will be at an end.
A more certain danger for expats is probably the attrition caused by the ever worsening THB exchange rate but if price is not an issue for you no need to worry.
If you enjoyed the soi 6 set-up German FKKs might also be your cup of tea.
My problem with soi 6 is my high rejection rate. I'd say 40% of girls reject me. They do so in the Thai way, ie by never making eye-contact. That may be because I skip the drinks part. I never pay drinks. I walk up to the girl and say let's go.
Have to say this really comes across as an anti-Pattaya comment from a guy who see's Bangkok as King. Simple question to you: How many years have you been living in Bangkok? How many days spent in Pattaya? I'm going to guess the percentage of time spent in Pattaya is around half of a half of a half of a percent. And the opposite is true for Mr E who's spent more time in Pattaya than Bangkok. So its pretty much pointless to keep up this argument unless you move down to Pattaya and Mr E moves up to Bangkok.Who is arguing? There are also many, many P4P girls in Bangkok whose asking price of 1000 baht could easily be reduced to 700 baht by anyone willing to go there too. Especially if nothing particularly above the most basic sexual fare is mentioned or requested. Happy?
Seems to me some of you guys should have been ticked off by the intimation that EVERY girl on Soi 6 was worth no more than 700 baht ST and 1000 baht LT for anything and everything of a sexual nature and they all knew it, which was very much what was being suggested until I asked the right questions and got clarification with no argument involved at all.
You're welcome for that, BTW.
I have been living in Bkk more than 6 years, after spending the same number of years vacationing in Thailand 4-5 weeks a year, most of that time spent in Pattaya. But that was 20-25 years ago. Now I much prefer Bkk.
However, I have gone to Pattaya for 2-3 day trips at least 7-8 times in the past 6 years. I took two such trips there in just the past 4 weeks. The most recent one, two weekends ago, was with a non pro gf from Bkk who had never been there before and had a rare 3-day free weekend from her job. So I took her there for a change in scenery from Bkk.
Banana Boi
12-10-18, 04:26
Hope your trip goes well. Looking forward to your report, not many reports here on G Clubs.If you are coming to Pattaya PM me right before you come. There is no use for receiving info a month in advance as lineups change. I go to G clubs often but only post updates on occasion. I'll only provide you with information on the promise you write a timely field report after you go.
If you are looking for top gogo quality girls no need to consider G clubs. Only know of one currently and I'm selfishly keeping her to myself since I hate going to her bar and having to wait for her among the 4s she works with.
Current G club lineups are very poor but I still persevere in hopes of finding those hidden gems. Drinks are dirt cheap and they are indoor so good way to pass some afternoons for me.
I'm pretty sure she would have had no problem with me CIM. Might have had a problem with YOU CIMI have a hard time getting CIM on Soi 6. But I asked the top 6 looking girls on Soi 6 at 3 PM. Top 6 in terms of generally accepted standards. Fairly certain many of the marginal looking girls would have said yes. BUT, I prefer my girls to wear make-up; I like to experience false illusions. Couple said no. Couple said yes to BJ, but no to CIM. One wanted 1500 Baht for CIM and rimming. One said yes at the Pussy Club. I thought she was the youngest and cutest one there. She initially hesitated. That is a bad sign. I should have walked away. Upstairs, her BBBJ was horrible. Then after several minutes, she said, "no more". After I paid her, left pissed off. Didn't want to create a scene if I paid her 700 instead of 1000. Fuck the Pussy Club!
At Soi 6, it seems the first price all the girls ask for is 1000 Baht for short time (for standard stuff). I'm wondering what percentage will accept 700. I just hate to negotiate with girls that will suck my dick, especially for $9 USD.
- Note: For my girl rating scale, I use a Bell curve. For all you non-engineering geeks out there, the shape of the curve is a bell. Most of the girls are average, around a 5. Very few high scores.
- IMO, many of the girls on Soi 6 are on the ugly side. Checked last month and the last 2 days around 3 PM. There are 5's around; only a few 6's; no 7's.
- At WS Tantra go-go, many 6's. I thought Nos. 129, 140, 242, 300, and 304 are 7's. I thought No. 322 is a 7.5. I liked the body of No. 300.
- At Infinity, I thought No. 403 is a 7. IMO, she's about 10 pounds overweight, although many people like the full figure type. I prefer skinny. I slipped a 20 Baht bill in her bikini, and I fondled her breast. She liked it (the money I assumed, LOL), and she gave me a wai. For less than a dollar! That's why I love Pattaya.
I have a hard time getting CIM on Soi 6. But I asked the top 6 looking girls on Soi 6 at 3 PM. Top 6 in terms of generally accepted standards. Fairly certain many of the marginal looking girls would have said yes. BUT, I prefer my girls to wear make-up; I like to experience false illusions. Couple said no. Couple said yes to BJ, but no to CIM. One wanted 1500 Baht for CIM and rimming. One said yes at the Pussy Club. I thought she was the youngest and cutest one there. She initially hesitated. That is a bad sign. I should have walked away. Upstairs, her BBBJ was horrible. Then after several minutes, she said, "no more". After I paid her, left pissed off. Didn't want to create a scene if I paid her 700 instead of 1000. Fuck the Pussy Club!
At Soi 6, it seems the first price all the girls ask for is 1000 Baht for short time (for standard stuff). I'm wondering what percentage will accept 700. I just hate to negotiate with girls that will suck my dick, especially for $9 USD.
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I am very much with you on that. My pointing out that there are many, many girls on Soi 6 who most of us on first sight would agree ought to be fine with 700 baht ST and that we probably would never take for more than that anyway, if that much (yes, gents, same as many, many girls in BKK) and then asking those particular questions was also in response to the perhaps saddened poster who wondered why a punter would negotiate such a girl down for the sake of $9.14. The fact is if the "700 baht and no more!" punters didn't take them they likely would almost never get a customer. Therefore, in a very real sense, one should not lament that this or that customer denied that poor girl 300 baht, but rather be glad there was at least someone willing to give them as much as 700 baht today.
It isn't like the top best looking girls on Soi 6 are being brilliantly hard bargained down from 1000 baht to 700 baht and still providing some fantastic sexual session they likely only provided the 1000 baht customers in their dreams. No doubt the vast majority of punters who don't work hard or bother to say anything at all to negotiate their chosen girls down from 1000 baht to 700 baht are not "fools". They've got eyes. They know there are "700 baht negotiable" girls and others, the ones they are likely dealing with instead, who have no reason to accept less than 1000 baht from any guy on this day. And they don't accept it.
Franciscass
12-10-18, 08:17
The ongoing discussion on pricing is interesting.
Some argue that 700 is fine because rather than looking at it as losing 300 she is gaining 700. Problem with that logic it also makes 600 500 400 300 OK and I imagine there are those that think this way.
For me what she accepts when the price starts being negotiated is almost totally dependent on her financial circumstances and her sense of self-esteem and self-worth. Life can be tough for the less desirable girls.
That said I don't find anything amiss with somebody who regularly mongers and finds girls accepting 700. It's a cheap shag for sure but this is Thailand. It is what it is.
Mr Enternational
12-10-18, 08:39
I am very much with you on that. My pointing out that there are many, many girls on Soi 6 who most of us on first sight would agree ought to be fine with 700 baht ST and that we probably would never take for more than that anyway,Recurring theme on ISG: If you don't pay as much as I pay then your girl is inferior and provides poor service.
My brother bagged a free chick from the disco last night. She must have been butt ugly and given him the starfish treatment. Must have been trying to move in and live off him too since he had to put her out at 2 this afternoon when I kept calling him to hit the streets.
Recurring theme on ISG: If you don't pay as much as I pay then your girl is inferior and provides poor service.Actually, the recurring theme from most posters is that the lower price you pay, the same or better performance you get. I prefer a 6 that does everything instead of a 9 that doesn't do anything.
IMO, it will be very tough to get the popular cuties from Tantra and Palace, even after their shift ends, at 808 for 1000 Baht. But it seems you aren't interested in those type of girls. But that's good. More power to you. Who the hell wants to spend 5000 to 7000 Baht for one girl. I was at Tantra last night. The mamasan quoted 7000 (2000 + 5000 long time) to the guy next to me. Damn! For that price, I would rather barfine 3 girls at once in Angeles Walking Street. That's a true "threesome". Plus you have money left over for drinks.
I'm actually all for saving money. I think you give good info in saying that many Soi 6 prices can be negotiated. I just don't like doing it. But if I can negotiate a Tantra model girl for less, I would. I just don't like to spend more than $100 USD on short time. It seems it will be 5000 Baht (2000 + 3000 short time), approx $153 at Tantra. Although, I've happily paid $150 (50 fee + 100 tip) at an Asian massage parlor in California for less than 30 minutes of rushed service from a middle aged average looking Korean girl.
Blanquiceleste
12-10-18, 15:09
Hope your trip goes well. Looking forward to your report, not many reports here on G Clubs.Evidently not enough RTFF done. Several reports have been posted about the G Clubs in the Jomtien area, Soi Full Love Inn, Soi Chaiyaphoom, Darkside, etc. Should I start naming the clubs too now?
World Travel 69
12-10-18, 18:15
https://www.google.com/maps/d/edit?hl=en&mid=1TBW8OkCo4Acz1ug7ssSBBNTxJ5U&ll=12.918263519052484%2C100.88850189999994&z=14
I have a hard time getting CIM on Soi 6. But I asked the top 6 looking girls on Soi 6 at 3 PM. Top 6 in terms of generally accepted standards. Fairly certain many of the marginal looking girls would have said yes. BUT, I prefer my girls to wear make-up; I like to experience false illusions. Couple said no. Couple said yes to BJ, but no to CIM. One wanted 1500 Baht for CIM and rimming. One said yes at the Pussy Club. I thought she was the youngest and cutest one there. She initially hesitated. That is a bad sign. I should have walked away. Upstairs, her BBBJ was horrible. Then after several minutes, she said, "no more". After I paid her, left pissed off. Didn't want to create a scene if I paid her 700 instead of 1000. Fuck the Pussy Club!
At Soi 6, it seems the first price all the girls ask for is 1000 Baht for short time (for standard stuff). I'm wondering what percentage will accept 700. I just hate to negotiate with girls that will suck my dick, especially for $9 USD.
- Note: For my girl rating scale, I use a Bell curve. For all you non-engineering geeks out there, the shape of the curve is a bell. Most of the girls are average, around a 5. Very few high scores.
- IMO, many of the girls on Soi 6 are on the ugly side. Checked last month and the last 2 days around 3 PM. There are 5's around; only a few 6's; no 7's.
- At WS Tantra go-go, many 6's. I thought Nos. 129, 140, 242, 300, and 304 are 7's. I thought No. 322 is a 7.5. I liked the body of No. 300.
- At Infinity, I thought No. 403 is a 7. IMO, she's about 10 pounds overweight, although many people like the full figure type. I prefer skinny. I slipped a 20 Baht bill in her bikini, and I fondled her breast. She liked it (the money I assumed, LOL), and she gave me a wai. For less than a dollar! That's why I love Pattaya.
Recurring theme on ISG: If you don't pay as much as I pay then your girl is inferior and provides poor service.
My brother bagged a free chick from the disco last night. She must have been butt ugly and given him the starfish treatment. Must have been trying to move in and live off him too since he had to put her out at 2 this afternoon when I kept calling him to hit the streets.Well, you had an opportunity to clarify if you meant to say that you hit them up all the time and a significant percenatge (all but one?) of even the best looking girls on Soi 6 readily accept your 700 baht ST and 1000 baht LT counter offer in reply to my question about that. And you could have clarified whether or not you got the usual time with the girls you negotiate down from 1000 baht to 700 baht in reply to Jimmy Boy 99's question about that.
I think both are obvious follow up questions to ask considering your way of putting it seems to imply that guys who do target the better looking girls or care enough about getting better service in the bed to negotiate for that where others focus only on price are fools for not refusing the 1000 baht rate and negotiating down to 700 baht with every girl they encounter on Soi 6 because of your success rate in doing so. But you didn't take the opportunity to answer either question.
Not sure what your brother or anyone else meeting a girl in a disco who was not a hooker (or chose not to behave like one with him) has to do with what I said about hookers on Soi 6 and so on. But thanks for the story.
https://www.google.com/maps/d/edit?hl=en&mid=1TBW8OkCo4Acz1ug7ssSBBNTxJ5U&ll=12.918263519052484%2C100.88850189999994&z=14As usual, very good map / info.
The problem with the BJ bars is that the girls are usually on the ugly side. The girls at the BJ bars listed on Soi 6 were, IMO, ugly during the last few days.
One of the best performers I've had was this girl (a 5.5 that did everything) that worked on Soi 6 My Friend You Bar (BJ bar listed). Sadly, she's not working there anymore.
Talent at Kittens was ugly.
Couple of girls at Pump Station were ok for a BJ bar. One wanted extra for CIM. WTF. Not standard for a BJ bar. I took the other up. 900 baht. Lousy BJ. WTF. Usually, girls at BJ bars give good BJs.
Historically, I've had good experiences at Lo-litas. Last Saturday, 5 were ugly. One was not ugly, but on the chubby side.
I see that Devil's Den is listed. You definitely can get CIM there. And everything else, including lesbian rimming. But kind of pricey for 2 uglyish girls for 60 or 90 minutes. I would rather pay the same price in Angeles to get the same thing, but the girls will be younger and cuter, and you can have them for a lot longer duration.
Banana Boi
12-11-18, 18:26
https://www.google.com/maps/d/edit?hl=en&mid=1TBW8OkCo4Acz1ug7ssSBBNTxJ5U&ll=12.918263519052484%2C100.88850189999994&z=14Be careful guys some of these are in the wrong location or displayed twice on my quick inspection.
I reported earlier that I believe geisha has closed.
Hasn't rioja been closed for 3 years or more?
Velvet reopened? Forgot all about that place.
Does Montana really have rooms? Are there even girls there?
How are booze and the other dark side bars these days?
PaulAlbert
12-12-18, 07:16
Here is a review of my first trip to Pattaya (heaven on earth) I am already planning my next trip in September for one month.
I turned 40 on this trip and spent 3 weeks in Pattaya and mostly spent all my time on Soi 6. I am in good shape physically, dress well when I go out looking for chicks and have a overall positive attitude when dealing with them. I went to a large selection of bars on the 6 and had a different girl or two each day. The top bars for sexy girls for me was at Mods Bar, SITC, Smoke and Mirrors, Lust, Pussyclub, Horny Bar, Foxy Bar and the Ruby Club. I spent the equivalent of $1550 canadian on all my encounters which included a drink for me, one or two lady drinks, short time room fee and fee for the lady.
It was my first trip to Pattaya, 4th time in Thailand. Have been to Patong / Bangkok twice, once in 2013 and 2015 and also Bangkok / Chiang Mai in 2016. I stated this hobby in Patong in 2015 mainly with massage girls, tried the game in Bali in 2014 and 2017 at the massage parlors and x houses but never tried Pattaya until this year. And I am totally hooked, it is everything, city, girls, nightlife, food and beaches that I could have asked for.
I found the pricing reasonable, I spent no more than $1600 Canadian on girls and lady drinks, drinks for myself, room and lady fee; on average about 1500 baht per encounter and the food was way cheaper then anywhere in Bali and I would say even parts of Thailand. So I wouldn't say I overspent at all. I only got turned down once on Soi 6 by a girl who only goes long time with Koreans but other then that I had a %100 success rate on Soi 6 with girls between the ages of 18-24. I stayed at the Hilton on beach road but never took girls back, mostly because I had this image of what I wanted to experience in Pattaya and that was Soi 6 so I stuck with that. And yeah no real strife other then girls "having crushes and falling for me" and I know how that goes. All in all it was a great trip and I have a serious case of the Pattaya blues now that I am home but the best way to beat the Pattaya blues is to book another trip right away. Which is just what I did!
Member #4591
12-12-18, 16:09
Exactly. The constant daily Pattaya bashing by ET is getting really boring really fast.Tooms is just a very straight guy when talking about what he thinks that's all. Anyways, I far more enjoy his posts compared to the constant muttering about the good old days and how much we all should pay and he paid too much and so forth. How about we say this? Pattaya is great, 700 Baht on Soi 6 is a bargain, Mr. E and his brother are the Kings of Pattaya, MP has game, and BKK Dog doesn't know shit! Is everyone happy now! LOL.
Member #4591
12-12-18, 16:11
Here is a review of my first trip to Pattaya (heaven on earth) I am already planning my next trip in September for one month.
I turned 40 on this trip and spent 3 weeks in Pattaya and mostly spent all my time on Soi 6. I am in good shape physically, dress well when I go out looking for chicks and have a overall positive attitude when dealing with them. I went to a large selection of bars on the 6 and had a different girl or two each day. The top bars for sexy girls for me was at Mods Bar, SITC, Smoke and Mirrors, Lust, Pussyclub, Horny Bar, Foxy Bar and the Ruby Club. I spent the equivalent of $1550 canadian on all my encounters which included a drink for me, one or two lady drinks, short time room fee and fee for the lady.
It was my first trip to Pattaya, 4th time in Thailand. Have been to Patong / Bangkok twice, once in 2013 and 2015 and also Bangkok / Chiang Mai in 2016. I stated this hobby in Patong in 2015 mainly with massage girls, tried the game in Bali in 2014 and 2017 at the massage parlors and x houses but never tried Pattaya until this year. And I am totally hooked, it is everything, city, girls, nightlife, food and beaches that I could have asked for.
I found the pricing reasonable, I spent no more than $1600 Canadian on girls and lady drinks, drinks for myself, room and lady fee; on average about 1500 baht per encounter and the food was way cheaper then anywhere in Bali and I would say even parts of Thailand. So I wouldn't say I overspent at all. I only got turned down once on Soi 6 by a girl who only goes long time with Koreans but other then that I had a %100 success rate on Soi 6 with girls between the ages of 18-24. I stayed at the Hilton on beach road but never took girls back, mostly because I had this image of what I wanted to experience in Pattaya and that was Soi 6 so I stuck with that. And yeah no real strife other then girls "having crushes and falling for me" and I know how that goes. All in all it was a great trip and I have a serious case of the Pattaya blues now that I am home but the best way to beat the Pattaya blues is to book another trip right away. Which is just what I did!Thanks for taking the time to report. I really enjoyed your post. What sticks out is the cost of a week of mongering on Soi 6 for $1500 and you probably having a blast on your 40th.
For the newbies there are also so great tidbits of knowledge to make note of such cost per encounter and having the girls fall in love with you.
Here is a review of my first trip to Pattaya (heaven on earth) I am already planning my next trip in September for one month.
I turned 40 on this trip and spent 3 weeks in Pattaya and mostly spent all my time on Soi 6. I am in good shape physically, dress well when I go out looking for chicks and have a overall positive attitude when dealing with them. I went to a large selection of bars on the 6 and had a different girl or two each day. The top bars for sexy girls for me was at Mods Bar, SITC, Smoke and Mirrors, Lust, Pussyclub, Horny Bar, Foxy Bar and the Ruby Club. I spent the equivalent of $1550 canadian on all my encounters which included a drink for me, one or two lady drinks, short time room fee and fee for the lady.
It was my first trip to Pattaya, 4th time in Thailand. Have been to Patong / Bangkok twice, once in 2013 and 2015 and also Bangkok / Chiang Mai in 2016. I stated this hobby in Patong in 2015 mainly with massage girls, tried the game in Bali in 2014 and 2017 at the massage parlors and x houses but never tried Pattaya until this year. And I am totally hooked, it is everything, city, girls, nightlife, food and beaches that I could have asked for.
I found the pricing reasonable, I spent no more than $1600 Canadian on girls and lady drinks, drinks for myself, room and lady fee; on average about 1500 baht per encounter and the food was way cheaper then anywhere in Bali and I would say even parts of Thailand. So I wouldn't say I overspent at all. I only got turned down once on Soi 6 by a girl who only goes long time with Koreans but other then that I had a %100 success rate on Soi 6 with girls between the ages of 18-24. I stayed at the Hilton on beach road but never took girls back, mostly because I had this image of what I wanted to experience in Pattaya and that was Soi 6 so I stuck with that. And yeah no real strife other then girls "having crushes and falling for me" and I know how that goes. All in all it was a great trip and I have a serious case of the Pattaya blues now that I am home but the best way to beat the Pattaya blues is to book another trip right away. Which is just what I did!Good report Paul.
I have only walked down Soi 6 2 or 3 times in my total of 10 days in Pattaya but after reading yours and a few others I think I need to invest more time there. I think I am going too early as in my limited experience I have seen near empty bars or hardly any girls worth doing. What was your best time of day to visit the Soi?
Thanks.
Rob.
PaulAlbert
12-13-18, 01:31
Good report Paul.
I have only walked down Soi 6 2 or 3 times in my total of 10 days in Pattaya but after reading yours and a few others I think I need to invest more time there. I think I am going too early as in my limited experience I have seen near empty bars or hardly any girls worth doing. What was your best time of day to visit the Soi?
Thanks.
Rob.I usually went close to opening or a couple of hours after, usually between 1 pm-3 pm and would stay a few hours. I never went at night as I had other stuff going on in the evening, although I walked through Soi 6 a few times at night and it did seem more lively.
Banana Boi
12-13-18, 02:07
I have only walked down Soi 6 2 or 3 times in my total of 10 days in Pattaya but after reading yours and a few others I think I need to invest more time there. I think I am going too early as in my limited experience I have seen near empty bars or hardly any girls worth doing. What was your best time of day to visit the Soi?Will you have time between all the freebies with 'civilian' girls?
Best time is between 4:22 pm to 7:48 pm as a warm up for walking street.
Will you have time between all the freebies with 'civilian' girls?
Best time is between 4:27 to 7:52 pm as a warm up for walking street.Thanks for that. I am so glad you put the exact times as I will be working on a very tight time line. I will ensure me and my entourage synchronise our watches LOL.
I am getting cold feet regarding the freebies, I showed Lew Ashby a pic of one of the better ones and he rated her poorly LOL.
All the best.
Rob.
Tooms is just a very straight guy when talking about what he thinks that's all.And so are you, I and Mr E and there's nothing wrong with that. But there's also nothing wrong with being straightforward when someone is annoying you with certain posts and is repeating himself too much.
World Travel 69
12-13-18, 17:23
Which ones?
PM me and we can fix these.
Be careful guys some of these are in the wrong location or displayed twice on my quick inspection.
I reported earlier that I believe geisha has closed.
Hasn't Rioja been closed for 3 years or more?
Velvet reopened? Forgot all about that place.
Does Montana really have rooms? Are there even girls there?
How are booze and the other dark side bars these days?
JeraldoRivera
12-13-18, 21:50
Why do you say that? Because you are paying more for bar girls? You are paying more for alcohol and cigarettes because the government went up on the taxes? If there has been a cost of living increase then nobody has told my landlord about it (and that is where it counts). I have been paying the same 4500 baht per month for almost the last 9 years. Let's see if anything changes in February when I sign a new contract.
I have also been paying the same 900 baht plus 60 baht tolls to get from the airport to Pattaya for as long as I can remember. So the taxi driver is not seeing it either. But I think the place that I eat breakfast has gone from 79 baht to 84 baht for the American breakfast: eggs, bacon, toast, juice, coffee or tea. So if we take that 5 baht difference and factor it into the 700 baht for a Soi 6 girl, then maybe she should be getting 40 baht more. 740 baht, which she did actually get if you add in the lady drink that I bought her!
Why insist on giving away money that there is no need to give away? If I give her more do you think she is going to say let me drop by his place and give him a free round? Do you think her pussy would have gotten any wetter? All it does it make you feel good to pay more. I already feel good without paying more. And evidently the girls have no complaints about it either.4500 THB monthly rent! Holy F at ken sh! T. That is hilarious. You are most definitely a beast to be reckoned with in Pattaya!
And so are you, I and Mr E and there's nothing wrong with that. But there's also nothing wrong with being straightforward when someone is annoying you with certain posts and is repeating himself too much.It remains to be seen if there is "nothing wrong" with that. Moderators/Admin might see such a post as simply one of those "Largely argumentative, etc. " posts, delete it and issue you a warning.
What happens if you don't make a public statement regarding how you feel about the way someone else posts, his writing style, how often and so on? Will your head explode? You know, it is entirely possible that for every one member who is annoyed by something there are two others who are entertained and further enlightened by it. Your feelings about it might be in the minority and, besides, have no relevance to the purpose of this site anyway.
Of course, if you disagree with what is being posted by anyone on its accuracy, that is a golden opportunity for you to cite or quote what specifically you disagree with and challenge it. If you can. But if you can't, then grousing about the writer's methods or whatever is probably recognized by most as a weak attempt to disagree for reasons having to do with personal issues but with no real basis for doing so.
Blanquiceleste
12-14-18, 04:52
It remains to be seen if there is "nothing wrong" with that. Moderators/Admin might see such a post as simply one of those "Largely argumentative, etc. " posts, delete it and issue you a warning.Or you could take the grouse to the Stupid Shit in Thailand thread and ask a harmless question. Like "Is it OK to call so-and-so a complete prick! Or "Why does so-and-so have be such a mofo a**hole?
Admin allows that I think.
Or you could take the grouse to the Stupid Shit in Thailand thread and ask a harmless question. Like "Is it OK to call so-and-so a complete prick! Or "Why does so-and-so have be such a mofo a**hole?
Admin allows that I think.LOL. Actually, there is some evidence that Moderators/Admin are fine with something fairly close to that in most threads lately. Or are not noticing it.
Member #4591
12-14-18, 06:37
Why do you say that? Because you are paying more for bar girls? You are paying more for alcohol and cigarettes because the government went up on the taxes? If there has been a cost of living increase then nobody has told my landlord about it (and that is where it counts). I have been paying the same 4500 baht per month for almost the last 9 years. Let's see if anything changes in February when I sign a new contract.
I have also been paying the same 900 baht plus 60 baht tolls to get from the airport to Pattaya for as long as I can remember. So the taxi driver is not seeing it either. But I think the place that I eat breakfast has gone from 79 baht to 84 baht for the American breakfast: eggs, bacon, toast, juice, coffee or tea. So if we take that 5 baht difference and factor it into the 700 baht for a Soi 6 girl, then maybe she should be getting 40 baht more. 740 baht, which she did actually get if you add in the lady drink that I bought her!
Why insist on giving away money that there is no need to give away? If I give her more do you think she is going to say let me drop by his place and give him a free round? Do you think her pussy would have gotten any wetter? All it does it make you feel good to pay more. I already feel good without paying more. And evidently the girls have no complaints about it either.
P.S. Today my brother bought 2 3 piece suits and 7 shirts. He told my brother 18,600 baht at first. My brother got the price to 17,000 baht. He also wanted 1500 baht to put a special lining in each suit. My brother talked him to do both for that 1500. Should I tell him to tip the guy when his clothes are ready?Even the 18,600 is too cheap for two good quality suits. I think sometimes you must pay a little more for quality as those suits will probably wear out sooner than later. Cheap fabric and cheap women can be one in the same LOL.
Just kidding about the women as I know you have a good lay of the land in Patts but if it's not too late, tell your brother to find a better tailor with better quality fabric or he will waste all that money. 17,000 is 17 soi 6 girls for most of us and 24 or you.
Banana Boi
12-14-18, 07:44
I bought 2 tailored suits on my first trip to pattaya. Paid 18k IIRC. One was an Armani cut and the other was Boss. They both looked like sh1t. I didn't even bring them home. Just gave it to a gogo girl to give to her Thai boyfriend. Funny story at first she said she had no thai boyfriend but when I offered 2 suits for her boyfriend she came clean and admitted she had a boyfriend.
Whenever someone visits me and asks me about suits I tell them not to do it. Don't get sucked in buying these low quality Thai suits. If you want Armani buy a real Armani!
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