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Kumbu
01-20-19, 22:17
I'll be visiting Pattaya next week, hoping to meet a few girls. Any advice on where to stay for (hoping for the lower end $30-40/ night if possible)?

I went back a few pages on this forum and from what I could tell, being close to Soi 6 is a good bet.

A couple of questions:

- Are most hotels girl friendly in the area?

- When booking the room, do I select Single or for two adults? (Hoping to have LT a night or two).

Appreciate any help!If you searched THIS thread, I would say that is the wrong one to search. There is a dedicated Pattaya Hotels thread here, which is where you should look. There are almost 5000 posts in that thread, so all the info you need is over there, and you can ask for hotel recommendations over there too.

Are most hotels girls friendly? Yes. Should you book for two adults? I have often not done that and never ran into any problems. Logically, I think you really need to book for two adults if you expect to have breakfast with your lady friend. Otherwise, no need. Safest practise is to book for two though.

As for which hotels to book, I think location is the key. And that depends on what you are interested in. If you will be a soi 6 kind of guy, you want something nearby. Likewise with Walking Street or soi Buakhao, etc. And of course, what is your budget?

So I would recommend including this info in a post in the Pattaya Hotels thread and see what pops up.

SlowAndEasy
01-21-19, 02:19
I'll be visiting Pattaya next week, hoping to meet a few girls. Any advice on where to stay for (hoping for the lower end $30-40/ night if possible)?.I have never stayed by Soi 6, so I cannot recommend any hotels near there. However, you do not need to stay near Soi 6 because the Baht bus (10 baht each way) is so cheap. You can rent an Airbnb at The Base Condo for about $40 USD. There are a number of hotels near The Base Condos on 2nd road and Soi Honey that will probably fit your budget.

Rick Rock
01-21-19, 03:29
One of my massage chicks yesterday commented to me that there is no high season in Pattaya anymore. Kind of an exaggeration I think but she seems to be lamenting the lack of business. Certainly at the guesthouse that I am staying in it used to be full in Dec-Jan, but nowadays is only half full.Well tell her maybe if they raise the prices once again they'll get more customers. 555.

LoneWolff
01-21-19, 10:00
Folks, by sheer luck (I booked tickets to patttaya between Feb 22&25. Just today read some news about elections scheduled for Feb 24th. So is my stay going to be pretty much ruined? Hopefully not but I know nothing about local politics so wondering if I should cancel or just go ahead. Please advise. Thanks!

MoBamba
01-21-19, 14:04
I'm trying to get some full on action, problem is I don't want to pay for a hotel room since I'm only going to be there like 12 or so hours. Do they have any love hotels like in Japan? Or brothels that just offer the full thing upstairs?

Delgado
01-21-19, 16:32
Folks, by sheer luck (I booked tickets to patttaya between Feb 22&25. Just today read some news about elections scheduled for Feb 24th. So is my stay going to be pretty much ruined? Hopefully not but I know nothing about local politics so wondering if I should cancel or just go ahead. Please advise. Thanks!Elections have been postponed.

Bangkokpost: "It was earlier expected that voters would go to the polls on Feb 24 but that is no longer possible. The EC has been considering other dates in March, while Deputy Prime Minister Wissanu Krea-ngam has said he believes March 24 would be a good choice. ".

Horatio
01-22-19, 01:40
Soi 6 has rooms upstairs. I think the gentleman's clubs also have rooms on site, but not sure on that. Massage places are on site with no need to go back to a hotel.


I'm trying to get some full on action, problem is I don't want to pay for a hotel room since I'm only going to be there like 12 or so hours. Do they have any love hotels like in Japan? Or brothels that just offer the full thing upstairs?

LoneWolff
01-22-19, 02:12
Elections have been postponed.

Bangkokpost: "It was earlier expected that voters would go to the polls on Feb 24 but that is no longer possible. The EC has been considering other dates in March, while Deputy Prime Minister Wissanu Krea-ngam has said he believes March 24 would be a good choice. ".That's awesome. My buddies would have been pissed since I did all the planning. Thanks for the reply.

Rick Rock
01-22-19, 02:17
I'm trying to get some full on action, problem is I don't want to pay for a hotel room since I'm only going to be there like 12 or so hours. Do they have any love hotels like in Japan? Or brothels that just offer the full thing upstairs?More than half of the places have their own rooms. If they don't there's always several short time hotels nearby. There are also a couple of love hotels. A major one is Love Inn on Soi Bongkot just down from the famous row of gentlemen's clubs there. Google maps is your friend.

Gin And Tonic
01-22-19, 21:27
I'm trying to get some full on action, problem is I don't want to pay for a hotel room since I'm only going to be there like 12 or so hours. Do they have any love hotels like in Japan? Or brothels that just offer the full thing upstairs?On a short visit like that I think a soapy offers the least stress and the best chance of having a decent experience. A place like Honey 2 on 2nd Road is easy to get to. It had a large variety of ladies in the fishbowl last time I went. If you want something a little crazier take 2 upstairs.

Mr Enternational
01-22-19, 22:08
I'm trying to get some full on action, problem is I don't want to pay for a hotel room since I'm only going to be there like 12 or so hours. Do they have any love hotels like in Japan? Or brothels that just offer the full thing upstairs?Problem is that you did not say which 12 hours you would be there. It makes all the difference in the world when it comes to recommending something to you. And if you had read a little further down you would have seen that you can get hotels for as low as 400 baht per day, which would be even cheaper than a love motel.

Bopski
01-23-19, 07:42
Soi 6 has rooms upstairs. I think the gentleman's clubs also have rooms on site, but not sure on that. Massage places are on site with no need to go back to a hotel.Passion and Kinnaree gentleman's club has rooms the others generally have at rooms in close vicinity.

Trace79
01-23-19, 12:50
The saddest part of it all is that when a farm fresh girl rolls into Pattaya at age 19, it only takes a few weeks because she starts getting ruined by packing on the weights, getting pierced, getting tattooed, braiding in multi-colored weave hair, smoking, doing drugs and becoming an alcoholic. She sees it as the norm, because that's what she is surrounded by there.I think you just described my former Chiang Mai fuck buddy perfectly. Lots of bad tattoos, braided fake hair, pierced nose, fake eye lashes, smokes a pack a day, but fucks like a porn star. I don't think she picked up those bad habits and poor decisions in Chiang Mai. I wouldn't be surprised one bit if she used to sell her pussy down in Pattaya.

Banana Boi
01-28-19, 11:48
They paved soi chaiyapoon aka soi bumpy. Felt weird walking through soi 25.

Downandup
01-28-19, 21:23
They paved soi chaiyapoon aka soi bumpy. Felt weird walking through soi 25.Experts on PA say the potholes will be back in 3 months.

Downandup
01-28-19, 21:25
Passion and Kinnaree gentleman's club has rooms the others generally have at rooms in close vicinity.The "Gentlemens Clubs" on Bong Koch 8 may have rooms or sofa's with curtains to go around.

MeatMan
01-28-19, 21:38
They paved soi chaiyapoon aka soi bumpy. Felt weird walking through soi 25.Yup. Passed through this past evening and did a double take. Jesus, what fucking took them so long!?

IMembr
01-29-19, 06:26
Experts on PA say the potholes will be back in 3 months.Once the rainy season passes through, those potholes will be back.

LookAtWorld
01-29-19, 15:14
Reached Pattaya on early hours of Sunday. This is my third trip to Pattaya.

This time, decided to stay right in the middle of walking street. P. 72 Hotel, their deluxe studio rooms are good, did not feel any noise so far in last 2 nights.

Day-1: was catching up with rest and re-establishing Line connections with the girls that I knew from last trip. Hit Soi6 in the evening and had an opening session for this trip (forgot the club name but girl was a looker, spinner, aged 23, Nit was the name. She gave her number and I will see if I can go back. While returning to hotel, saw a cutie, getting down from the motorbike and walking towards a food stall. Approached her and asked if she is available. Yes was the answer and she quoted the normal ST rate. Took her to the hotel, had good time for next hour with her. Around midnight, browsed through Indian clubs, Insomnia Indian clubs. They are fully packed. Maybe because, this is the "season" and I could feel it with the heavy crowd around, compared to my trip from last October.

Day-2: Not much to do during day time, I am not much into site seeing and nothing new around the beach either. In the evening around 8 pm, went to SugarBaby agogo, was stopped by the doorman. Asked to pay 200 for the first drink (because I am an Indian). Well, I was their daily customer in last two trips, spent a lot of money, some of their girls really like me. I decided to explain him in a calm manner that I have been here before. Not much positive response. While this conversation is happening, the girl that I bar-fined multiple times in the past, found me while entering the club and she tried to reason with the doorman. This did not work either. I was about to move on but mentioned to him that I will talk to Al, their manager. He immediately allowed me in.

Al was there in the club and gave a warm handshake. He explained that they had very bad experiences in the last few months with Indian groups walking-in and not buying any drinks and yet grabbing the girls as they pleased. That's why he was forced to make this rule. I have to admit that I am more than pissed with some of my fellow country men, because of whom, I am profiled as one of them!! Anyway, I am a thick-skinned person and on a holiday to enjoy. I won't allow this to bother me. Had few drinks, bought multiple lady-drinks and bar-fined the same girl for ST. We had a nice time together and this time, she wanted to drink in the room with me. Had Whiskey purchased from the duty-free and we enjoyed it together.

In retrospect and from all I have been reading in this forum, gogo bars are absolutely not worth the money and this type of treatment doesn't give any incentives for me to visit them either. I will try to stay away from gogo bars as much I can and explore other options.

Day-3: Not much action. Feeling mentally tired. Got a foot massage and another girl offered oil massage and I accepted for another hour. During the massage, she pop'ed the question that I did not expect. Do you need a special massage? This shop looked very legitimate to me. Anyway, she is cute and I agreed to proceed further which was a good decision. She is ready to meet me after work but I told her that I am tired, will try her tomorrow.

Kumbu
01-29-19, 19:44
Reached Pattaya on early hours of Sunday. This is my third trip to Pattaya.Thanks for taking the time to post the trip report. Your experience with Sugarbaby seems about right. I am brown-skinned too (not Indian), and I have to contend with the skunk eye from the goons at the doors too. But it's part of the business, and I never take it personally. Looks like you were the same.

LookAtWorld
01-29-19, 20:15
Thanks for taking the time to post the trip report. Your experience with Sugarbaby seems about right. I am brown-skinned too (not Indian), and I have to contend with the skunk eye from the goons at the doors too. But it's part of the business, and I never take it personally. Looks like you were the same.Yeah, nothing personal. These goons can't tell who can spend the money and who can't. So, we get to taste the aftermath of the bitter-taste left by others looking similar to us. I wish they learn how to profile customers in a better manner other than color, but hey, that ain't happening anytime soon unless my country fellows learn the etiquette over night.

Once the bar folks / girls realize that a customer is spending and enjoying in the usual manner, treatment is just about same as others. So, I can't really blame them either. Its just the situation and I have learned to deal with it.

Mr Enternational
01-29-19, 21:34
While returning to hotel, saw a cutie, getting down from the motorbike and walking towards a food stall. Approached her and asked if she is available. Yes was the answer and she quoted the normal ST rate. Took her to the hotel, had good time for next hour with her.See that is how Pattaya works. Didn't need a bar. Didn't need drinks. Very easy!

Breadman
01-29-19, 22:03
See that is how Pattaya works. Didn't need a bar. Didn't need drinks. Very easy!Food cart guy is her husband, pulls out a machete and chops off your head. LOL.

XXL
01-30-19, 05:33
Spotted this MILF on Beach Road at 10 am. Looked like she had an okay ass. Asked 500 for ST. I thought to hell, for that price, just for the sake of trying her out.

A disaster. Botched up butt job or lipo on her buttocks. Most off-putting.

I shall never again consider a woman pricing herself at less than 1000. This is a 100% fluid market.

Mr Enternational
01-30-19, 06:21
Spotted this MILF on Beach Road at 10 am. Looked like she had an okay ass. Asked 500 for ST. I thought to hell, for that price, just for the sake of trying her out.

A disaster. Botched up butt job or lipo on her buttocks. Most off-putting.

I shall never again consider a woman pricing herself at less than 1000. This is a 100% fluid market.LOL. I have never paid more than 500 on Beach Road and I have had some gems.

LoneWolff
01-30-19, 09:27
Reached Pattaya on early hours of Sunday. This is my third trip to Pattaya.

This time, decided to stay right in the middle of walking street. P. 72 Hotel, their deluxe studio rooms are good, did not feel any noise so far in last 2 nights.

Good to know. I've booked P72 deluxe studio rooms for next month's trip as well and glad to know noise doesn't filter in. Hopefully no issues with taking a girl or two there.

LoneWolff
01-30-19, 09:34
Once the bar folks / girls realize that a customer is spending and enjoying in the usual manner, treatment is just about same as others. So, I can't really blame them either. Its just the situation and I have learned to deal with it.Can't agree more. Understand windmill grp Gogos allow Indians. Did you have luck with any others? You do not seem to have PM activated, by the way.

Bruno562
01-30-19, 10:05
Good to know. I've booked P72 deluxe studio rooms for next month's trip as well and glad to know noise doesn't filter in. Hopefully no issues with taking a girl or two there.I've stayed there in the past. Noise isn't bad at all and no issues with bringing girls up. They just check their ID.

Lefeu
01-30-19, 10:55
Good to know. I've booked P72 deluxe studio rooms for next month's trip as well and glad to know noise doesn't filter in. Hopefully no issues with taking a girl or two there.Aah P72! It used to be my goto hotel, perfect location, totally girl friendly. Not sure why, but I moved on. My favorite hotel became The Stay on soi 10, but on this last trip I stayed at LK Empress and I liked it. Not sure when and if I will come back.

When I used to stay there, 5+ years ago, there was absolutely no issues with bringing girls. So convenient, right across from Lucifer. You go down, pick up a girl and take her upstairs, just like. Never had a problem with noise, except when they had a band downstairs. It kept me up until midnight. It was a problem for my first few nights upon arriving, and then no issue after that.

If your deluxe studio is across the street, you don't even need to check the girls at the desk. They also have a decent restaurant.

LookAtWorld
01-30-19, 14:48
Can't agree more. Understand windmill grp Gogos allow Indians. Did you have luck with any others? You do not seem to have PM activated, by the way.I did try Taboo. Talent is not that great. Tried Palace, Sensations, Panda in my last October trip. I liked the talent at Palace but they are very pushy for drinks, shots (I roughly spent 3 k on drinks in an hour and half). I have couple of days left in this trip, planning to explore more of Soi6, FLs. I am also a fan of Shisha here. Will spend time in Discos for that.

My PM is active.

LookAtWorld
01-31-19, 10:08
Day-3: Not much action. Feeling mentally tired. Got a foot massage and another girl offered oil massage and I accepted for another hour. During the massage, she pop'ed the question that I did not expect. Do you need a special massage? This shop looked very legitimate to me. Anyway, she is cute and I agreed to proceed further which was a good decision. She is ready to meet me after work but I told her that I am tired, will try her tomorrow.On Day-4, felt horny due to a day's break and hit Soi6 around 6 pm. Checked Lust for Ja, she was off for the day. Took a walk to scan the talent, one girl from smokes and kisses smiled and wooed me in. Had couple of drinks with her, chatted with her and her real sister (that's what she said). She offered ST with both of them. I am not really into 3-some at 6 pm and she asked me to choose one of them. I picked her sister, for which is totally fine as long as I tip her. Her sister is 25, puffy lips and nice ass to look at. She quoted 1500ST + Room charge. I jokingly asked if this is special price for Indians and she jokingly said yes. All in lighter mood. I kept silent for a few seconds, she dropped to 1500 all inclusive. I took it in. Girls performance is just about fine. I tipped her sister while leaving the bar and she made a happy face.

Got a good Oil massage from a shop in second road, had dinner and messaged the massage girl around 10 pm. She just finished her work hours and came to hotel around 10:30 pm. She had couple of drinks with me and chatted for a while. Had a passionate session after several years. To clarify, I am one among the folks who don't mind star-fish experience as long as girl is easy on the eyes. Simple reason is: I am looking for any sex, not for more sex. She was dripping wet by the time I removed her clothes. She left me couple of hickeys on the neck.

After both of us came, I asked her if she wants to have Shisha and she readily agreed. Took motorbike to Asma coffee shop, she invited two of her friends from massage parlor. I was positively surprised that both of them are sweet people, chatted about their boy friends. Not at all looking to spike the bill, which is usual with a group of girls here. We were there for more than couple of hours till 4 am and I thought my girl will leave with her friends. But no, she came back to hotel with me and wanted to sleep with me. While we are naked under the sheet, she sensed my excitement again and followed through. Her enthusiasm to please was a big turn-on.

One of the best experiences came from the inexpensive one for me. I did not ask her how much for LT in the entire conversation, paid her 3 K in the morning while she is leaving. She was extremely happy. Sad part is, now I know what is a good performance. Need to wait and see if I can still cope-up with star-fish performances.

On a side note, many of the girls that I met here so far, in gogos, clubs, beach road, massage parlours are all single mothers at young age. Something along the lines of first baby at 19 or 20, husband left for another lady after few years, she is now 24 or 25, supporting the family and child. It is very hard for me to understand, especially coming from a culture where family bonding is more important than individual's happiness. Just an observation, nothing more.

Sandman33
02-01-19, 11:36
This is my first time to Pattaya and will be staying in Thailand for about 30 days spending time in Bangkok, Pattaya and Phuket.

Visa: Travelling under a British Passport, a VISA exemption applies. Just had to fill in an embarkation card which was handed out on the plane (name, DOB, Passport Number, length of stay, address in Thailand etc). Once off the plane, collecting baggage, went through Passport Control and simply handed in card. Process very simple.

Money: Exchanged about 1/3rd of money at the airport. On the arrival floor, exchange rates not good. Typical exchange 37.5 to 38 baht for 1 GBPound Sterling. Do not exchange there. At the lowest floor, there are trains to Bangkok. On this floor there are also many exchange bureaus with typical rates of 40.5 to 40.7 baht for 1 GBPound Sterling with no fees, charges or commissions. So I changed here. Rates typically about 7% to 8% better than on the arrival hall. When I got to Pattaya, I saw similar rates. The best rate I have so far seen is 40.8 baht for 1 GBPound Sterling. So only a little better than at the airport.

Bus to Pattaya. I got the bus which costs 120 baht. But although the bus runs several times an hour, I had to wait 2 hours for the bus with my seat. Can book on line in advance but I did not do this since I did not know whether the flight would be delayed, nor how long it would take to enter through passport control and collect baggage. Next time, I would buy a ticket in advance so that I would not have to wait as long. Still on the plus side, it gave an opportunity to people watch. Many nice stewardesses with lovely figures and nice legs. If I was younger and staying in Bangkok, with the cavalier of youth, I would have tried my luck at chatting some of these up. With age comes wisdom, so I new that there was no point in trying and getting the humiliation of rejection. On the bus I sat next to a very nice Russian lady about 30 but she was travelling with her son, and I think mother. Still she had a nice pair of legs, was wearing a very short dress, and had very nice blue eyes.

Crystal Club AGOGO LK metro. This has some rooms. I paid about Euro 47 for 3 nights, so about 15 euro per night. The room is very clean, has a large bed and is quite large about 30 sqm plus. Get a 10% discount on drinks in the Club. Get to see the girls off stage getting dressed changing etc so that is a bit of a perk. Only had a quick look inside several girls dancing, one or two topless.

Beach road. I got there about 8 pm. Many many girls with quality very variable. However there were some thin good looking girls. I walked up and down several times identifying the hot ones. At about 9 pm, I made my move, but all the girls were only interested in ST, and did not do LT. They all quoted 1000 baht. I wanted long time, so did not go with these. After about 9 pm there was some police activity, and a lot of girls disappeared. I saw this stunning girl very slim, reasonably tall wearing black slit / ripped jeans. She had lovely legs but was on the phone. I waited for her call to finish, but she immediately walked off. I followed and she met up with 2 other girls. I waited a short distance away, One of the other girls smiled at me whilst the 3 were chatting. Then unfortunately, the girl I liked quickly hurried off, and the girl who had smiled at me came over to chat. She was friendly, but a bit chubby but with large tits, and said I really like you, LT 1000 baht sucking fucking massage more sucking fucking etc. Because she was a bit chubby for my liking, I started chatting to the other girl who was shortish and a little over weight but not chubby. She explained that the hot girl with the stunning legs, had left because she had a customer who had phoned her up. Whilst we were chatting the chubby girl found a customer and left. Since it was after 10 pm and I could see very few girls remaining, I decided to go with this girl, whose name is Ann. She wanted 2,000 baht for LT which I thought was rather a lot since her friend had offered 1000 fir LT. I suggested 1700 baht and she said why not 2000 baht, it only 300 baht more. I said that I would probably buy her something to eat and she agreed at 1700 baht.

Ann: we chatted on the bed for about 20 minutes, before she took a shower. Her English was quite good, but with the Thai accent it was still difficult to fully understand. I had a shower after her, and then we started with about 20 minutes of very passionate kissing whilst I fingered her pussy, We then had a long session of DATY which she very much enjoyed before having sex in a couple of positions. She tasted very clean. I got cramp in my calf which I thought was down to a lack of water or salt. I hadn't experienced this before, quite painful but soldiered on. Well you have to, don't you!

After round 1, we went out for a walk, and a meal in a Thai restaurant, where she order several dishes, not too hot. We had quite a bit left over, and she asked the waiter for a doggy bag (so that we could take the left overs back to the room). We then walked around the place and along beach road to walking street for about 1 hour. We gave away the food to an oldish woman on the beach who seemed very pleased. It was still warm. On the way back to the hotel we picked up lots of bottles of Breezer. We watched a bit of TV, listened to music and then went for round 2. This was much the same as round 1 and again I got cramp.

We woke up quite latest about 10 am. I had been tired having had only about 5 hours sleep in the past 48 hours. She was initially reluctant to have sex and wanted to go, but I persuaded her to stay and we had a long session lasting about 1.5 hours of enjoyable sex (well at least for me). This time I did not get cramp so perhaps all I needed was a good night's sleep.

SIM card. We then went out and did some shopping. I bought a Thai SIM card that she recommended, with the provider AIS. We bought this in the family mart for 50 baht and loaded it with 300 baht of credit. She thought that I would get unlimited calls, 1 GB fast internet for 7 days which would cost 100 baht, so with the 300 baht loaded, this would supply 1 gb of data 3 times over for 21 days. However, the offer had expired the day before, and it was extremely difficult to get the internet working. Eventually went into Central Festival Mart where AIS has a shop. There was a long wait of about 50 minutes for customer service but eventually they set up a plan of fast internet for 10 days with 5 gb of data unlimited calls for 175 baht. After the 10 days I would still have about 120 baht of credit so needed to just top up a little for another 10 days of the same deal. I do not know whether this is a good deal, but Ann thought that AIS was the best with reliable service.

We then went shopping in a covered market where I bought some sandals. These were 450 baht but I only paid 300 baht. She says she always gets a discount at the market, but I do not know whether that is because she knows the people or whether she just bargains. Perhaps there is a price for Thais and a price for Ferang. She said that if I wanted to go shopping again she would take me to get the best price.

Summary: To sum up, I was with Ann from about 10 pm to about 2 pm, and spent a nice time with a very friendly and sweet girl, not just the sex. Because her English was quite good, we were able to have a chat, enjoy a meal together, stroll along the beach etc. So whilst I paid more than I wanted to for LT, overall, the experience was good and well worth the money, and I am hoping that she will introduce me to the slim leggy girl with the tight slit / cut jeans who appeared very doable. Beach road girls might not be the prettiest, but on the basis of my first experience, they are not wham bang thank you mam girls, and may well be a lot more friendly than the Gogo girls. I guess it is what you are after. Do you want the youngest stunner, or a good honest girl that you can spend some time with, as well as having some sex on the side. Whilst I am going to check out the talent elsewhere (who knows perhaps where I am staying at Crystal Club), I am certainly going to further explore the delights of Beach Road.

Finally, on the basis of my short experience, it is best to get to beach road before 9 pm if you want the best looking girls. After that, the quality on offer goes down. It may be different on different days.

I am now off to the beach for a swim, and I am hoping that day 2 will be just as enjoyable.

LoneWolff
02-01-19, 14:39
Aah P72!
When I used to stay there, 5+ years ago, there was absolutely no issues with bringing girls.
If your deluxe studio is across the street, you don't even need to check the girls at the desk. They also have a decent restaurant.Thanks much Lefeu for sharing. Always good to hear it firsthand.

I will write a note in the Hotels forum after my stay.

LoneWolff
02-01-19, 14:40
I did try Taboo. Talent is not that great. Tried Palace, Sensations, Panda in my last October trip. I liked the talent at Palace but they are very pushy for drinks, shots (I roughly spent 3 k on drinks in an hour and half). I have couple of days left in this trip, planning to explore more of Soi6, FLs. I am also a fan of Shisha here. Will spend time in Discos for that.

My PM is active.Great, thanks for sharing man. My list of places to visit just got a little better.

LoneWolff
02-01-19, 14:47
On Day-4, felt horny due to a day's break and hit Soi6 around 6 pm. She quoted 1500ST + Room charge. I jokingly asked if this is special price for Indians and she jokingly said yes. All in lighter mood. I kept silent for a few seconds, she dropped to 1500 all inclusive. During my last visit towards the end of 2017 I paid 1000 all inclusive for average lookers and 1,300 all inclusive for the better looking ones. I did not bother to bargain but looks like the good looking ones are asking 1. 5 k now which seems higher than what everyone else here is paying apparently. Who knows what factors in to their pricing.

Excellent report, by the way. Looking forward to reading more.

FL Hawk
02-01-19, 23:01
Nice report Sandman! You seemed to have had an old fashioned GFE with a Thai girl in Pattaya! You got quite a bargain for just 1,700. The girl deserved a nice big tip for all the extras she provided you. Don't expect the same service from the girl you are now lusting after.

Banana Boi
02-02-19, 08:48
Crystal Club AGOGO LK metro. This has some rooms. I paid about Euro 47 for 3 nights, so about 15 euro per night. The room is very clean, has a large bed and is quite large about 30 sqm plus. Get a 10% discount on drinks in the Club. Get to see the girls off stage getting dressed changing etc so that is a bit of a perk. Only had a quick look inside several girls dancing, one or two topless.

Not often that I actually learn something off this board but this seems interesting. Grab girls for some quick fun in your room in between their sets. Too bad some of the Crystal girls I once knew now work at Palace and Skyfall.


I am now off to the beach for a swim, and I am hoping that day 2 will be just as enjoyable.Hoping you survived the most dangerous thing to do in Pattaya.

Mogwai
02-02-19, 08:58
I got cramp in my calf which I thought was down to a lack of water or salt.This happens to me too every now and then. However in my case I don't think it has anything to do with a lack of water or salt. Most of the time it happens when I'm switching from missionary to doggy, so when I'm getting up my knees and have to bend my legs.

Mogwai
02-02-19, 09:06
SIM card. We then went out and did some shopping. I bought a Thai SIM card that she recommended, with the provider AIS. We bought this in the family mart for 50 baht and loaded it with 300 baht of credit. She thought that I would get unlimited calls, 1 GB fast internet for 7 days which would cost 100 baht, so with the 300 baht loaded, this would supply 1 gb of data 3 times over for 21 days. However, the offer had expired the day before, and it was extremely difficult to get the internet working. Eventually went into Central Festival Mart where AIS has a shop. There was a long wait of about 50 minutes for customer service but eventually they set up a plan of fast internet for 10 days with 5 gb of data unlimited calls for 175 baht. After the 10 days I would still have about 120 baht of credit so needed to just top up a little for another 10 days of the same deal. I do not know whether this is a good deal, but Ann thought that AIS was the best with reliable service.
I thought it was not possible anymore to buy a SIM card in shops like Family Mart and 7-eleven. Did you have to register it with your passport? If not then it was probably illegal which could also explain why it didn't work.

Anton Matsson
02-02-19, 09:31
This happens to me too every now and then. However in my case I don't think it has anything to do with a lack of water or salt. Most of the time it happens when I'm switching from missionary to doggy, so when I'm getting up my knees and have to bend my legs.Hi,

If you got problems with cramps in Your legs it is usually a sign that You AR low on magnesium buy some magnesium supplements and give it a try.

https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/magnesium-deficiency-symptoms

/ Br.

Mr Enternational
02-02-19, 09:34
This happens to me too every now and then. However in my case I don't think it has anything to do with a lack of water or salt. Most of the time it happens when I'm switching from missionary to doggy, so when I'm getting up my knees and have to bend my legs.I hate when that happens. Then I always play it off by trying to stretch my leg to get it out while I am still fucking and the chick thinks I'm trying to do a strange new position. I finally have to admit that I have a cramp in my leg.

Goferring
02-02-19, 10:05
I hate when that happens. Then I always play it off by trying to stretch my leg to get it out while I am still fucking and the chick thinks I'm trying to do a strange new position. I finally have to admit that I have a cramp in my leg.I don't normally have issues with my legs but I do get stomach cramps towards the end of a multi week trip. I just put it down to the sudden increase in use as I'm a on / off visitor with the associated peaks and troughs rather than a resident with a constant out put.

It's pretty much impossible to hide a stomach cramp midseason.

CrazyGuyKK
02-02-19, 10:34
I hate when that happens. Then I always play it off by trying to stretch my leg to get it out while I am still fucking and the chick thinks I'm trying to do a strange new position. I finally have to admit that I have a cramp in my leg.For my bad luck I also used to have cramps, especially the Right sartorius used to go to cramps. I don't know where is my fault. Still trying to find it.

LittleBigMan
02-03-19, 05:06
For my bad luck I also used to have cramps, especially the Right sartorius used to go to cramps. I don't know where is my fault. Still trying to find it.Just my 2 cents.

I get cramps when I overuse the muscle then there are times cramps come from underuse, whenever I've gotten leg cramps during sex is due to being a bit out of shape and not been doing my stretching. When a cramps come what do you want to do if it isn't so knotted that you can't move or have to bit down on a towel so you aren't screaming your lungs out, get up and try to move or stretch it.

LookAtWorld
02-03-19, 12:02
On Day-4, felt horny due to a day's break and hit Soi6 around 6 pm. Day-5: Found a FL around 7-11 around 8 pm. Standard rate for ST. She is cute, around 24 years old. Had a nice time for an hour. After she left, went out for dinner to a restaurant I visited in my last trip, on second road. Had a nice chit-chat with the restaurant owner and in the conversation, I mentioned that I am a sucker for good massage which is rare to find. He gave a contact for a MP, endorsed by him. Messaged the shop and they sent one girl for 1 hour Oil massage. I liked her skill and pressure was just perfect and thoroughly enjoyed the massage. Too bad that the hour went by so fast. In the process of getting up and clean myself before paying her fee, I heard the unexpected question again, do you want anything more than massage. Not surprised though as this is my second time when I got this question unexpected. I just realized that she is late 20's and in great shape. I asked for Blow Job, she said she provides but doesn't like to do. I don't want her to do something she doesn't like, I took my request back and asked for full service. She accepted. Next 30 minutes was great, she teased me a lot which is unusual. She has broad nipple and melon shaped twins. My favorite combination. I enjoyed them to my heart's content. It was impossible for me to last long with her. I finished quickly.

Day-6 and Day-7, last day: My logical mind is asking for a new girl and my emotional mind is asking for the massage girl from Day-4. Emotional side won, messaged her around 9 pm about her availability. She finished the work around 10 pm and we met at the hotel. Had couple of drinks in the room before leaving for Shisha. After Shisha, went to Kaama club together. We were there till 5 am. I asked her if she can stay with me till next day evening, she readily agreed. Hit the hotel room at 5 am, had a passionate session and slept in each other's arms. I woke up around afternoon, with a boner and had another round. Had lunch together and she helped me in packing my stuff. I had to say good-bye to her with a heavy heart and headed to Airport, to lead my other side of the life in India.

Overall, I had a great vacation. I now fully agree and feel about Pattaya blues. They are very real and I am already feeling them right after reaching home.

Sandman33
02-03-19, 16:35
Yesterday I hooked up with a Vietnamese girl on Beach Road, nearly opposite Burger King, a little further towards walking street.

She was tall and slim. Body was about 9. Her looks, these were interesting rather than beautiful. Pale white skin, and slightly different eyes.

She wanted 1000 baht ST, and 3000 baht LT. She would not budge from 3,000. I took her ST and she was well worth the 1000 baht. I took her to my hotel on a motorbike taxi, and gave her 100 baht for the return trip.

She said that she had only just arrived in Pattaya and was only staying about a week. For someone wanting something slightly different, she may be available for the next 5 days.

Crocodilexp
02-03-19, 16:45
whenever I've gotten leg cramps during sex is due to being a bit out of shape and not been doing my stretching. Muscle cramps are a fairly common side-effect of Sildenafil Citrate based ED drugs (Viagra, Kamagra, Sidegra and such). I get them fairly often when using such medications, and rarely otherwise. YMMV, but if you have a problem with leg cramps during sex, this is worth keeping in mind.

Sandman33
02-03-19, 16:50
I thought it was not possible anymore to buy a SIM card in shops like Family Mart and 7-eleven. Did you have to register it with your passport? If not then it was probably illegal which could also explain why it didn't work.We tried 7/11 but they did not have SIM. Family Mart did. I did not register as such, but they took a photo of my passport on their mobile phone. Whether the shop follows that up with formal registration, I do not know.

FL Hawk
02-03-19, 22:34
Hi,

If you got problems with cramps in Your legs it is usually a sign that You AR low on magnesium buy some magnesium supplements and give it a try.

https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/magnesium-deficiency-symptoms

/ Br.Interesting. I would get a charlie horse in my right ankle after ejaculating on occasional. These posts have made me realize I have not had one in quite a while, possibly because I am taking a vitamin supplement with both Mn and MG?

And how did a muscle spasm become known as a charlie horse?

FL Hawk
02-03-19, 22:57
I now fully agree and feel about Pattaya blues. They are very real and I am already feeling them right after reaching home.Yes! Yes! My Pattaya Blues! They are fast becoming known!! Haha.

However, being the creator of the term, I need to keep control of the definition. It is normal to feel sad when you are saying goodbye to Pattaya or to a specific lady. Those feelings are not the Pattaya Blues. They are just normal goodbye blues. The Pattaya Blues are when you have depression-like feelings during the middle part of a Pattaya vacation. It might be related to exhaustion; the reduced ability, and the resulting depression, of not being able to ejaculate as you are tried or drained or under stimulated; the realization that you aren't going to have that GFE with the hot agogo girl you were dreaming of; the dread of having to breathe others people's disgusting smoke in the bars; the depression of failing with the girls who are 40 years younger than you; the sick feelings of drinking too much; the malnutrition or getting tired of Thai food or of eating too much fattie fast food or whatever; the relentlessly hot weather or rainy weather than is getting you down; etc. It can be helped by hanging out with the appropriate brothers, by finding a a GFE that shares your desire to hang out, and, in some cases, you will get better when you realize that you need to get out there and get with it as your vacation will be ending in in a few days!

LittleBigMan
02-04-19, 00:09
Muscle cramps are a fairly common side-effect of Sildenafil Citrate based ED drugs (Viagra, Kamagra, Sidegra and such). I get them fairly often when using such medications, and rarely otherwise. YMMV, but if you have a problem with leg cramps during sex, this is worth keeping in mind.Good to know thanks! Right now even at my age, I haven't a need to use the items mentioned whenever I do have cramps it is usually from overdoing my workout.

Sandman33
02-04-19, 13:23
I met Mae approximately opposite from Mike' Shopping Mall on the beach side of Beach Road about 4:30 pm.

She is a pretty girl, slim and quite tall. Fairly light skin and I she was around 20 but Thai girls look young. She said she was from Bangkok holidaying in Pattaya. She wanted 1000 baht for ST and asked whether I had condom which to which I said yes. I did not negotiate because I liked the looks of the girl. The warning signs were clear, but one always lets lust get the better of one. We had about a 6 to 8 min walk to the hotel. She started complaining after about 4 minutes. When we got near the hotel, I said I would give her taxi fare for return trip.

Once we were in the room she collapsed on the bed and said that she nearly died. She then insisted on payment before boom boom. I initially objected, but in the end I caved in. And gave her 1100 baht. After showering she turned off all the lights, in the end we left the bathroom light on with the door open but still the room was very dark. This was a pity since she had a nice figure.

Started off by kissing her breasts (she had been wearing a padded bra, but her nipples were nice) and DATY. She smelt and tasted clean, and had a small hairy Bush, which I do not mind at all. During DATY, she stopped me from inserting a finger but I kissed and licked her out for a bit. I then put on a condom, and she immediately complained that I was too big. Length I am a little over average, but girth, is larger than average. Almost all the girls that I have been with have commented that I am thick.

Obviously she was not as wet as if she had let me finger her, but I was careful to enter her very slowly since I have always liked small Chinese and Japanese girls, and these have taught me to be very slow inching in, very gradually a little at a time. Anyway before I had entered fully she completely objected, and I am not one to force myself on a woman so I immediately stopped. She said she would give me BJ / handjob, but with a condom, that is not my idea of fun. Of course, all this moaning meant that the passion of the moment was gone.

Of course, I probably should have accepted her offer as a way to cut my loss, but stubbornness took over. I asked for my money back but of course to no avail.

To conclude, it was an extremely disappointing encounter with a girl who on looks could have been good. Previously, when chatting to girls, if they have said before the hook up, they want money upfront, I have always rejected them. This time, the girl (MAE) did not say this until back in the hotel room. I guess that I should have immediately have asked her to leave. Warning to self, never pay upfront, and chalk this down to experience, I guess that this is one of the risks of Beach Road, there is no Mamasan to fall back on.

Be extremely wary of this girl.

Might pop off to Windmill to have a bit of raunchy fun whilst I brood.

Kumbu
02-04-19, 22:58
I met Mae approximately opposite from Mike' Shopping Mall on the beach side of Beach Road about 4:30 pm.

She is a pretty girl...To conclude, it was an extremely disappointing encounter with a girl who on looks could have been good. Previously, when chatting to girls, if they have said before the hook up, they want money upfront, I have always rejected them. This time, the girl (MAE) did not say this until back in the hotel room. I guess that I should have immediately have asked her to leave. Warning to self, never pay upfront, and chalk this down to experience, I guess that this is one of the risks of Beach Road, there is no Mamasan to fall back on.

Be extremely wary of this girl.

Good intel, Sandman. Thanks. Note to self: beware the pretty Mae.

Member #4698
02-05-19, 00:37
To conclude, it was an extremely disappointing encounter with a girl who on looks could have been good. Previously, when chatting to girls, if they have said before the hook up, they want money upfront, I have always rejected them. This time, the girl (MAE) did not say this until back in the hotel room. I guess that I should have immediately have asked her to leave. Warning to self, never pay upfront, and chalk this down to experience, I guess that this is one of the risks of Beach Road, there is no Mamasan to fall back on.Lesson learned Sandman. Never pay an SW, FL, or Bar Girl in advance. Period. It's too late now, but if you had held your ground and said something like, "look Mae, I am a gentleman, but I don't pay in advance. If you are unhappy with this arrangement then here is some taxi money so you can go back to Beach Road to find another customer and I will head over Windmill to find another girl. It is no problem for me and I want you to be happy." 555. Chances are good that she would have changed her tune and delivered decent service. This has happened to me on more than one occasion with a recalcitrant FL ie having a good session with the girl after the payment issue was settled my way and I have never had a girl take the taxi money and leave.

It's water under the bridge now, so get yourself over to Windmill right away and have a naughty good time. In a week or so you will forget everything about Mae except the lesson learned to never pay in advance. That lesson will stick with you for the rest of your mongering days.

Rock On!

Nyezhov
02-05-19, 01:44
Yes! Yes! My Pattaya Blues! They are fast becoming known!! Haha.

However, being the creator of the term, I need to keep control of the definition. Dude, unless you have been on the Thai message Boards since the 90's, you didn't invent that term.

Crocodilexp
02-05-19, 02:42
if you had held your ground and said something like, "look Mae, I am a gentleman, but I don't pay in advance. If you are unhappy with this arrangement then here is some taxi money so you can go back to Beach Road to find another customer and I will head over Windmill to find another girl... I have never had a girl take the taxi money and leave. You're a true gentleman Natty.

What I do if a girl has poor attitude (like asking for money in advance) before sex starts, is apologize, say I don't want to proceed with the session since I no longer have the feelz, and give her 100 baht for her trouble on her way out, so she doesn't try to raise a fuss. Makes her think twice before trying on the "pay me in advance" trick with the next customer.

Generally, a girl doing a 180 degree turn in attitude is possible but rare, and one or two signs of bad attitude highly correlate with substandard service. I'm not throwing my money at that, not in Pattaya at least. To be honest, I usually look for two minor signs of bad attitude before calling it off, just in case there's a misunderstanding with the first one.

Franciscass
02-05-19, 04:51
I don't buy the argument that getting paid upfront automatically means substandard service.

Lots of P4P around the world use this method of payment.

The reason is to avoid the possibility of the customer finding some excuse whether real or otherwise not to pay any or all of the agreed fee.

I get it there are less than honest providers out there but not all of them are, most I believe are just ensuring they get paid.

In Thailand it is the norm at soapies and more and more common at oilies.

With FL'S and other face to face transactions as Natty indicated if you agree what services will be provided and you can reassure the girl that there will be no problem with payment later and she feels confident with this then most likely she will accept payment afterwards.

Tomasb
02-05-19, 06:27
I wrote a report about this in the Bangkok thread recently. The Thai girl I met at the bar became less and less receptive and warm to me in my apartment, which was in inverse proportion as she had been with me in the bar, something we have all experienced. Sensing a less than satisfying session, I was looking for an excuse to terminate the deal. When she entered my apartment she also whipped out a cigarette despite clear signs in the lobby forbidding smoking in the apartment building. Then she ducked outside to the porch despite my protestations. A clear sign of disrespect.

When she hopped in bed and pulled the sheets up and demanded payment upfront that was my excuse and I unceremoniously asked her to leave. She sheepishly dressed and exited stage right.

Last night, I met a girl (also in Bangkok) who turned out to be Vietnamese. She initially told me she was from Issan, then later, on the walk to my apartment said she had been working in a factory in Thailand and was from some backwater Viet town near the Cambodian border in south Vietnam. Uh oh, I thought. When we arrived at my apartment, she was on her phone incessantly probably getting instructions from a friend. Then she asked me for prepayment and I declined. Her performance was woeful (C-) and I thought if I had known she was Vietnamese I would have never picked her up to begin with. Anyway, I am pretty certain her friend was instructing her to ask for the prepayment.

It was supposed to be a two hour session. After the first session, she jumped out of bed and went to the living room and got on her phone again. No after coitus cuddling with this one. About 20 minutes later, she nods to me and goes back in the bedroom and opens her legs for round 2. So much for foreplay. Needless to say no kissing either. I went through the motions for a while then finally terminated the session myself. But if I had paid her upfront, I am sure it would have been much worse.
Caveat emptor, my friends.


You're a true gentleman Natty.

What I do if a girl has poor attitude (like asking for money in advance) before sex starts, is apologize, say I don't want to proceed with the session since I no longer have the feelz, and give her 100 baht for her trouble on her way out, so she doesn't try to raise a fuss. Makes her think twice before trying on the "pay me in advance" trick with the next customer.

Generally, a girl doing a 180 degree turn in attitude is possible but rare, and one or two signs of bad attitude highly correlate with substandard service. I'm not throwing my money at that, not in Pattaya at least. To be honest, I usually look for two minor signs of bad attitude before calling it off, just in case there's a misunderstanding with the first one.

Mr Enternational
02-05-19, 07:00
Has anyone ever had a LT freelancer ask for money up front? I most certainly have not. The STers will do it when they plan to make the ST even shorter. You should have asked her if they paid her at the factory before she did the work. Same with buying drinks. I tell them they have to work up a thirst before I buy them a drink.

Tomasb
02-05-19, 07:46
Has anyone ever had a LT freelancer ask for money up front? I most certainly have not. The STers will do it when they plan to make the ST even shorter. You should have asked her if they paid her at the factory before she did the work. Same with buying drinks. I tell them they have to work up a thirst before I buy them a drink.That's the other thing. When we were discussing terms in the bar she told that she wanted to celebrate Chinese New Year with me so I thought she meant long time. With that in mind, I told her that I would pay her 3 k for LT. However, in the apartment, she tried to explain that she could not stay long time. Apparently, CNY starts at midnight (in her mind) and that was good enough for her. I reduced the time and fee accordingly. Bollocks! She only wanted a coke at the bar so thought that was a good sign but probably just wanted to stay sober for another victim.

Good point about the upfront payment for factory work. I was actually on the razor edge of kicking her to curb like the last one.

SouthEaster
02-05-19, 07:50
Tomasb,

I am curious as to why you would not have taken this girl if you knew she was Vietnamese? I admit I have never had a Viet girl outside Vietnam but I have had some dynamite sessions while there. I will also admit that those are becoming more infrequent and harder to find compared to the "good old days"!

SE.

ArisCasa
02-05-19, 07:58
I hate when that happens. Then I always play it off by trying to stretch my leg to get it out while I am still fucking and the chick thinks I'm trying to do a strange new position. I finally have to admit that I have a cramp in my leg.Simple quick remedy for any cramps, abdominal or legs. Eat half a spoon of salt. Immediate relief.

Goferring
02-05-19, 10:51
Has anyone ever had a LT freelancer ask for money up front?It's pretty common with Viet girls in the Four Floors at Singapore.

It's the only place I have paid upfront and surprisingly have never had a bad experience in doing so. I would never recommend it anywhere else due to the risks already mentioned below.

Member #4698
02-05-19, 16:42
What I do if a girl has poor attitude (like asking for money in advance) before sex starts, is apologize, say I don't want to proceed with the session since I no longer have the feelz, and give her 100 baht for her trouble on her way out, so she doesn't try to raise a fuss. Makes her think twice before trying on the "pay me in advance" trick with the next customer.

<snip> To be honest, I usually look for two minor signs of bad attitude before calling it off, just in case there's a misunderstanding with the first one.
Crocodilexp, do you remember the 1948 Jules Dassin film noir, "the Naked City"? The film's famous closing line was "There are eight million stories in the naked city; this has been one of them. ".

Well there are 10,000 hookers in Pattaya (or a large number at any rate) and thus 10,000 stories. At one end of the spectrum there are some nice working girls that have been ripped off by an asshole customer. At the other end of the spectrum are bad working girls who want to provide the least service ie do the ripping off. And in between are a whole lot of girls that are up for a good time as long as they get paid in the end.

I agree with your 2 or 3 strikes, you're out policy and I will never pay a SW, FL, or bar girl in advance. Bordellos are another venue and in most you either pay in advance (Thai soapies) or the house keeps a sharp tab on your expenses (Macau and Jakarta saunas). Try stiffing a Macau Sauna and see what happens. 555.

In any case I have had a few, not many, FL's ask for payment in advance once we started getting into things in the room and they turned out to be good girls who had been ripped off in the past and thus had a reason to be cautious.

I remember one Viet gal I took out of the Beach club in KL a couple of years ago. Nice girl and very friendly in the bar. In the room she went along with things, DFK, but as her bra came off, she became hesitant and asked for money. Because I liked her, I went thru the discussion, yada yada, "I am gentleman, you make me happy, I make you happy" bla bla "if you are unhappy with pay later, we can back to Beach Club so you can find another customer and me another girl. " And she agreed to my terms, of course and we showered and got down to it. At first, she was still a little reluctant, but she warmed up alright and the session turned out pretty good. She ended up staying for around 3 hours and we talked and watched tv in bed afterwards. And while we were talking in bed, she told me of the time not long before when a customer had stiffed her. Anyway, I gave her a good tip for the GFE session and we were both happy.

But the bottom line is I am not responsible for what some asshole does with his girls and I won't bear the burden although I know there must be a lot of assholes out there. Another example: I was staying in the Marriot Thonglo Exec apartments Hotel - a nice place. One morning I went down to their little pastry shop to have my morning coffee. Sitting at a table next to mine was a working girl still in her evening dress. She was quietly crying. I smiled at her and asked what's wrong. And she told me her customer had just thrown her out of his room upstairs and not paid her. Now I was not in the room. I don't know if her service was good or bad. But she was not making a fuss or a scene. She was just quietly sobbing and feeling really bad. I felt sorry for her. After she left my waitress came over and asked if the girl had been botherimg me. I said, No, everything is alright. I mention this little story to illustrate that even guys that can afford the Marriott can be assholes. Whoring is not as easy as it may seem to some.

Anyway, I never pay an SW, FL, or bar girl in advance. If they want to walk, let them walk. But I have never had a girl turn me down on my terms and every FL that asked me for money upfront and did not get it, still did me alright in bed. Back to Jules Dassin, "There are eight million stories in the naked city; this has been one of them. ".

FL Hawk
02-05-19, 20:11
Dude, unless you have been on the Thai message Boards since the 90's, you didn't invent that term.Haha. Before I made that claim, I did a search of the forum and the first use of the phrase was last November by your's truly. Not sure how far the search goes back, but I know it goes back more than 10 years, so at the least I am the first to have used it since the mid to late 2000's. (Note: this is all good natured! At the least, I am happy that people are recognizing the existence of the blues, which I have been describing for a few years.).

Crocodilexp
02-06-19, 07:55
Sensing a less than satisfying session, I was looking for an excuse to terminate the deal. When she entered my apartment she also whipped out a cigarette despite clear signs in the lobby forbidding smoking in the apartment building. Then she ducked outside to the porch despite my protestations. A clear sign of disrespect.I don't think a punter needs any excuse to terminate a session if no sex has occurred yet. I've done it on several occasions for reasons no bigger than unpleasant smell (cigarettes are a turnoff for me too), just apologized politely, said I changed my mind, not her fault, and gave them some money for their time (usually 200-300 baht). The amount is perhaps a bit more than I would have if the cancellation was due to bad attitude. Remember, 300 baht is still a daily wage in this country, you need to stand on your feet for 8 h in a 7-11 to earn that much, so 200 baht or so should be more than enough for well under an hour of doing nothing more than getting to your hotel and back.

Tomasb
02-06-19, 09:25
I gave her 100 bhat which was more than enough to cover her taxi cost back to Soi 4. I know because that is what I paid the taxi to take us to my apartment. It was a cascading set of things she did that led me to ultimately cancel the session finally culminating in 'you pay me first'.


I don't think a punter needs any excuse to terminate a session if no sex has occurred yet. I've done it on several occasions for reasons no bigger than unpleasant smell (cigarettes are a turnoff for me too), just apologized politely, said I changed my mind, not her fault, and gave them some money for their time (usually 200-300 baht). The amount is perhaps a bit more than I would have if the cancellation was due to bad attitude. Remember, 300 baht is still a daily wage in this country, you need to stand on your feet for 8 h in a 7-11 to earn that much, so 200 baht or so should be more than enough for well under an hour of doing nothing more than getting to your hotel and back.

Mua Tur
02-08-19, 10:35
I admit I have never had a Viet girl outside Vietnam but I have had some dynamite sessions while there. ............."!
SE.At least you need to visit Macau or Singapore. They are plenty.

PhilAndererer
02-08-19, 20:30
At times although we should keep things simple it is just too simple to some?

As you noted I-Rover just because it has the word Bar it doesn't mean it is a place you can barfine the girls. ! There are a number of places just outside of I-Rover, that serve food and have girls you can BF, they are pretty obvious because there are servers and girls sitting on stools doing nothing but being eye candy. Jibby's, Scooters, Billibong there are about a half dozen of them if not more.

As for I-Rover, the girls are mainly servers of food and I-rovers from what I understand there are girls that will go with you but no during work hours and certainly they aren't going to drop their plate of fries for a customer and go upstairs with you for ST or LT, I know this from regulars I know but never ask or care because I never have seen anything I like, plus I have a rule business is business and pleasure is pleasure that means for me what I eat I don't want anyone messing with it?

A place like I-Rover food watching sports girls talk and certainly they aren't going to go with a customer who stays at the place which is what the original question was about. As you noted you ask and if they do it is going to be off hours and at your place not upstairs at I-rover. It isn't a really Bar as the others!It's okay to take them upstairs. I stayed there for four days and had two girls working there in my room. I was fascinated by one young girl working there and her Korean eyes; it's my bad that I had her on my last day and I didn't take her number. I know it's stupid to ask these things (I am still a young adult and stupidity is common in this age), but can someone here help me in getting her whereabouts or contact? LOL. Thanks.

Horatio
02-09-19, 01:06
I am more frugal then many here. I have to watch how much I spend and look for bargains. Could I visit Macau or Singapore for anywhere close to the same as Bangkok? Or would it be like twice the amount or more? Thanks.


At least you need to visit Macau or Singapore. They are plenty.

Rick Rock
02-09-19, 02:38
What I do if a girl has poor attitude (like asking for money in advance) before sex starts, is apologize, say I don't want to proceed with the session since I no longer have the feelz, and give her 100 baht for her trouble on her way out, so she doesn't try to raise a fuss. Makes her think twice before trying on the "pay me in advance" trick with the next customer.Right on. I do the same.

Rick Rock
02-09-19, 02:45
I am more frugal then many here. I have to watch how much I spend and look for bargains. Could I visit Macau or Singapore for anywhere close to the same as Bangkok? Or would it be like twice the amount or more? Thanks.You can get 2500 Baht sex in Bangkok and 30000 Baht sex in Macau.

Or you can get 30000 Baht sex in Bangkok and 2500 Baht sex in Macau.

Depends on what you want.

One of the cheapest place to find Viets in Macau is Hou Va. About 2500 Baht if you let them pick the girl. If you go to a sauna you might spend 10000 Baht or more.

Of course you could go to Vietnam and spend 500 Baht on sex with Vietnamese girls if you learn how to use sites like Thienda.

SouthEaster
02-09-19, 03:33
Why the hell would I go to Macau or Singapore for Vietnamese girls? Maybe there are plenty, but there are plenty more in Vietnam, which is where I'm going.

SE.

Mua Tur
02-09-19, 04:07
I am more frugal then many here. I have to watch how much I spend and look for bargains. Could I visit Macau or Singapore for anywhere close to the same as Bangkok? Or would it be like twice the amount or more? Thanks.Than you have to forget to meet Viet girls out of Vietnam. In Macau or Singapore the Viet girls are relatively more expansive than Thailand providers.

Crocodilexp
02-09-19, 17:24
Than you have to forget to meet Viet girls out of Vietnam. In Macau or Singapore the Viet girls are relatively more expansive than Thailand providers.There's also KL Malaysia where you can easily have Viets from 80 MYR (600 baht) up. Not going to be great (either looks or service) at the lower end of that range, but there's an occasional diamond in the rough, and even the uglier ones look better than an average Pattaya working girl these days.

Dinghy
02-10-19, 19:40
Interesting. I would get a charlie horse in my right ankle after ejaculating on occasional. These posts have made me realize I have not had one in quite a while, possibly because I am taking a vitamin supplement with both Mn and MG?

And how did a muscle spasm become known as a charlie horse?Don't know about the horse, but leg cramps also result from low potassium levels. 1000 MG / day is good, 2000 is better.

Member #4698
02-10-19, 19:57
I used to get severe leg cramps once in a while. My Doctor recommended drinking Gatorade. He said it was the loss of electrolytes (sodium, potassium and calcium, ect) that causes the problem. So drinking a bottle of Gatorade or Vitaminwater (both of which contain electrolytes) on a regular basis in the evening a few hours before going to bed solved the problem. Knock on wood. I take a quality GNC Men's daily vitamin too, but don't know if that helps or not. It can't hurt.

LittleBigMan
02-10-19, 20:39
I used to get severe leg cramps once in a while. My Doctor recommended drinking Gatorade. He said it was the loss of electrolytes (sodium, potassium and calcium, ect) that causes the problem. So drinking a bottle of Gatorade or Vitaminwater (both of which contain electrolytes) on a regular basis in the evening a few hours before going to bed solved the problem. Knock on wood. I take a quality GNC Men's daily vitamin too, but don't know if that helps or not. It can't hurt.When it Thailand why spend money on Gatorade or any electrolytes product when you got coconut juice everywhere in those fruit carts. Research shows for 15-20 baht you are going to get more much more than suggested get a small or large one have them crack it open when done with the juice then you eat the slices. Cramps over!

XXL
02-10-19, 20:49
When it Thailand why spend money on Gatorade or any electrolytes product when you got coconut juice everywhere in those fruit carts. Research shows for 15-20 baht you are going to get more much more than suggested get a small or large one have them crack it open when done with the juice then you eat the slices. Cramps over!Where in Pattaya around the flesh spots can you get a coconut for 20 bahts? 40 bahts is the best price I've been able to get for a coconut + spoon to scrape the inside.

Coconut electrolyte especially high on potassium.

AfAsia
02-10-19, 23:05
I used to get severe leg cramps once in a while. My Doctor recommended drinking Gatorade. Typical Doctor of today. You got to go BANANAS.

Dg8787
02-10-19, 23:39
Typical Doctor of today. You got to go BANANAS.In my 20's I used to get cramps in my right leg in the mish position. I would have to pull out quickly, flop over on my back and point my toes towards me in the same direction of my erection! LOL. The girl would be like wtf! It took 30 seconds for the cramp to go away and then I would tell the girl to get on top and ride me. Hee haw!

WindAngel
02-11-19, 07:55
I did not have leg cramps until I read it here. Now I found out I have leg cramps too. But I think the reason is that I switch to Kamagra jelley recently and I may have taken too much. I usually only need 25 MG, or no more than 50 MG. With jelley being 100 MG, there is no good way to take only 25 MG or 50 MG so I end up taking too much.

Breadman
02-11-19, 17:28
Been getting allot of freelance contacts for my next trip, what's a good amount to offer? I was thinking 1000 and mention taxi money, possibly 1500 but without a mention of taxi money if they are hot.

As to guys blaming a pill for leg cramps during sex, did it ever occur to you that you're just out of shape? No. Has to be the pill. So take one and go watch two hours of TV and report back on how many cramps you get.

LittleBigMan
02-11-19, 17:37
Where in Pattaya around the flesh spots can you get a coconut for 20 bahts? 40 bahts is the best price I've been able to get for a coconut + spoon to scrape the inside.

Coconut electrolyte especially high on potassium.I'm on the Darkside of Pattaya, and the fruit carts run at that price, they also have the bottled juice in the plastic bottles. Along the road Soi Siam Country and Nernpludwan there are pickup trucks from the countryside selling by bulk 70-100 baht for a Kilo. Two years removed I did a yearly bike ride from Pattaya to Bangkok, I depended on it during my route of 34 along Bang Na picking up the juice for 15 baht. Never purchased in the flesh area that the other type of juice?

Banana Boi
02-12-19, 02:28
I'm on the Darkside of Pattaya, I haven't been to the Darkside in ages. Any updates on the talent at some of the bars there like Booze Lounge.

LittleBigMan
02-12-19, 03:39
I haven't been to the Darkside in ages. Any updates on the talent at some of the bars there like Booze Lounge.I rarely and I mean rarely ever set foot into any of the places out here on the Darkside, but I'm not out of the loop since the majority of the morning coffee drinker expats regularly venture to the clubs so I hear what are the hot spots but nothing really have changed since I've been out here 12 plus years it is rare to find anything good. If you find a young farm fresh one usually the regulars are all line up waiting. By the time I come around they are gone most likely to greener pasture the problem with farm fresh in general I have to do the leading and I'm just too old be a teacher? In the past, I had a few regulars they were in their mid or late 30's they take care of their bodies and I didn't have to put a bag over them enjoy being BF taken out for the evening to eat, drinking locally an evening not feeling they were working and at the end of the night they show their appreciation. Some of the best experiences I've had in Thailand sex wise I've had with these types.

As for the Booze not much has changed, they come they go and the ones that come aren't much and I'm not picky that goes with the majority of the places out here. One of the places I find most comfortable but like most hit and miss is Aqua. Unless I know the girl I usually don't venture unless family or friends in town it gives me an excuse in case I run into someone working might live in my neighborhood which will get me in trouble so I usually stay away from clubs out here.

The only time worth it is if a particular club is having a party so all the Freelancer come from the other clubs so do the regulars!

Reaper78
02-12-19, 06:53
There's also KL Malaysia where you can easily have Viets from 80 MYR (600 baht) up. Not going to be great (either looks or service) at the lower end of that range, but there's an occasional diamond in the rough, and even the uglier ones look better than an average Pattaya working girl these days.Slightly off topic, but if you don't mind paying a bit more, there are really some good looking talent to be had in Penang. Google "Pghotel2 U" for their website and contact. What's available is quite remarkable.

Zman429
02-12-19, 11:46
Been getting allot of freelance contacts for my next trip, what's a good amount to offer? I was thinking 1000 and mention taxi money, possibly 1500 but without a mention of taxi money if they are hot.

As to guys blaming a pill for leg cramps during sex, did it ever occur to you that you're just out of shape? No. Has to be the pill. So take one and go watch two hours of TV and report back on how many cramps you get.1000 works 90% of time.

Crocodilexp
02-12-19, 18:26
Slightly off topic, but if you don't mind paying a bit more, there are really some good looking talent to be had in Penang. Google "Pghotel2 U" for their website and contact. What's available is quite remarkable.Looks great, but did you actually try them? Photos on Malaysian agency sites can often be misleading (often of a completely different woman).

I wonder why a Thai girl of the quality listed on that site would work for 190 myr (1500 baht), half of which likely goes to the Malaysian mafia. They could surely make well over 800 baht per short time in Bangkok or Pattaya, in the safety and convenience of their own country. Maybe they're making up for the low price on volume.

Rob Jones
02-13-19, 04:19
Been getting allot of freelance contacts for my next trip, what's a good amount to offer? I was thinking 1000 and mention taxi money, possibly 1500 but without a mention of taxi money if they are hot.

As to guys blaming a pill for leg cramps during sex, did it ever occur to you that you're just out of shape? No. Has to be the pill. So take one and go watch two hours of TV and report back on how many cramps you get.Got home yesterday and was offering 1000 and being accepted. Some of the Hotter ones wanting 1500 or taking the 1000 + 200 Taxi. I got a LT (10 pm to 9 am) 1500 + 200 baht dinner (for 2). Best score was a girl from Siracha who I met at 9 am at my hotel and stayed until 8 am the following day and it cost me 1 x lunch, 1 x dinner 1 coffee and a 50 baht scarf.

No leg cramps, I am out of shape and I was taking pills.

Mogwai
02-13-19, 09:49
As to guys blaming a pill for leg cramps during sex, did it ever occur to you that you're just out of shape? No. Has to be the pill. So take one and go watch two hours of TV and report back on how many cramps you get.You might get muscle strains from the 'exercise' in bed when you are out of shape, but cramps is another story.

Breadman
02-13-19, 14:40
Been having some success getting LINE ID's and then finding out if they are truely freelance or just looking to date. Had an interesting chat with a new girl who was sending back oddly worded english replies with misspellings that google translate would never have given. I then switched my responses to Thai so that I could double check the translation to make sure I was being understood. Her response though was unexpected, she said she wanted my responses in english since it was easier for her to understand. Girl was young and new to Pattaya and working in a bar so I wonder if I was chatting with someone else and not her.

Rob Jones
02-13-19, 22:41
Been having some success getting LINE ID's and then finding out if they are truely freelance or just looking to date. Had an interesting chat with a new girl who was sending back oddly worded english replies with misspellings that google translate would never have given. I then switched my responses to Thai so that I could double check the translation to make sure I was being understood. Her response though was unexpected, she said she wanted my responses in english since it was easier for her to understand. Girl was young and new to Pattaya and working in a bar so I wonder if I was chatting with someone else and not her.I think very few on TF are girls just looking to date. I think I have maybe met less then 10 over a 18 month period. I wonder if some kind hearted farang with English as a second language is trying to help? For girls looking for dating I find Badoo better but is full of LBs. I secured a hairdresser from there last week. To be honest I don't think the effort of looking for free is sex is worth the outcome.

Opebo
02-15-19, 19:50
I haven't reported in ages - hate to add to the gloom. Pattaya providers dwindling to only the old and fat - Thailand's birthrate has fallen to Japanese level, and tiny younger generations mean fewer replacements in sex biz, so the odds are against us. I still have some fun here along Soi Honey or Chaiyaphum, but beach Rd is finished.

Rob Jones
02-15-19, 22:37
I haven't reported in ages - hate to add to the gloom. Pattaya providers dwindling to only the old and fat - Thailand's birthrate has fallen to Japanese level, and tiny younger generations mean fewer replacements in sex biz, so the odds are against us. I still have some fun here along Soi Honey or Chaiyaphum, but beach Rd is finished.I was in Pattaya last week and enjoyed the company of many slim, girls between the ages of 22 to 30. I can not see a negative in the Pattaya I go to. I have never really hit Beach Road but I think a lot of the freelancers you are not seeing are on TF now.

IMembr
02-16-19, 01:29
I haven't reported in ages - hate to add to the gloom. Pattaya providers dwindling to only the old and fat - Thailand's birthrate has fallen to Japanese level, and tiny younger generations mean fewer replacements in sex biz, so the odds are against us. I still have some fun here along Soi Honey or Chaiyaphum, but beach Rd is finished.There's has been several freelancers on Beach Road, but now it dries up sooner. Midnight to 2 AM would still have some bites out there. Now it seems the pond dries by 9 or 10 PM. Still plenty of young, thin freelancers out there. Never thought of Thais as pretty faces so no comment there.

Crocodilexp
02-16-19, 07:23
I was in Pattaya last week and enjoyed the company of many slim, girls between the ages of 22 to 30. I can not see a negative in the Pattaya I go to. I have never really hit Beach Road but I think a lot of the freelancers you are not seeing are on TF now.

Opebo has been around for ages and knows what he's talking about.

I used TF last time I was in Pattaya, and it wasn't exactly a treasure trove. There were a hundred or so Pattaya working girls (not counting those who say "Chonburi" and are not in town), more or less awful, hardened looking bunch; if they look as they do in pictures, reality is worse. Maybe maybe 3-4 attractive ones, and by attractive, I mean acceptable, not "wow". Finally settled on a decent 22 year old For 1000 baht ST (talked down from 1500) who looked normal, could possibly pass for a non-hooker, and was actually much fresher than expected. Ok service, not incredible chemistry, but she did the work.

Unfortunately, that was a one-off, and next day I couldn't get any of the other 3 acceptable lookers within a reasonable timeframe or price. No, I won't rearrange my day to meet an Issan hooker, or wait for over 2 h for her to maybe not show up, a wank is a better choice than that.

Any online scene, even when relatively good, puts men at a huge disadvantage. Unlike when we're visiting the bars or picking freelancers, picking girls online is basically begging, not choosing. It's entirely up to the girl whether and when she'll come. And whether she'll show up at all. I can (somewhat successfully) beg and plead for women's attention in many places in the world, don't want to do that in Pattaya.

Of course, if you're coming from some sex desert like the US, TF looks amazing, but coming down to Pattaya from Bangkok, it certainly does not.

Seeing the demise of Pattaya (especially Beach Road, though other places didn't get any better either) is very sad indeed.

Lefeu
02-16-19, 07:29
There's has been several freelancers on Beach Road, but now it dries up sooner. Midnight to 2 AM would still have some bites out there. Now it seems the pond dries by 9 or 10 PM. Still plenty of young, thin freelancers out there. Never thought of Thais as pretty faces so no comment there.I was there in January for a week, and my experience was different. It has been a few years since I stopped picking chicks from gogo clubs. In this recent trip, I had an FL from beach road practically every day, and I was relatively happy with the quality. I picked them up at all times of the day, until 2 am.

Banana Boi
02-16-19, 07:39
There's has been several freelancers on Beach Road, but now it dries up sooner. Midnight to 2 AM would still have some bites out there. Now it seems the pond dries by 9 or 10 PM. Others may know better but I just assumed after midnight most of those Beach Road FL's head to iBar, 808, Red Car, etc. or will snag a guy off TF / Badoo.

Zman429
02-16-19, 08:42
Any online scene, even when relatively good, puts men at a huge disadvantage. Unlike when we're visiting the bars or picking freelancers, picking girls online is basically begging, not choosing.Croc love your posts but my experience is totally different. No begging involved. Of course the hotter the girl the harder to bag but I gave up hunting 10's a long time ago.

Zman429
02-16-19, 08:44
There's has been several freelancers on Beach Road, but now it dries up sooner. Midnight to 2 AM would still have some bites out there. Now it seems the pond dries by 9 or 10 PM. Still plenty of young, thin freelancers out there. Never thought of Thais as pretty faces so no comment there.There out tlll sunrise just got to know where to look.

Jay0940
02-17-19, 05:29
Would like to thank all of the senior members and those that posted reports on the goings-on here in Pattaya. Especially FLHawk, BananaBoi, Mr. E and others. That made planning my trip far easier and gave me an opportunity of what to expect. I'm trying to list prices as well, but some are in Baht and others in US dollars. I've never travelled to Thailand before, but have been to Tijuana on several occasions. My first impressions after 36 hours in Pattaya are that this scene completely blows Tijuana out of the water. The sheer quantity and quality of girls is a shade overwhelming. Since I've never been here before I'm really not qualified to say whether quality has decreased over the years, but from a newbie's perspective, there are certainly some stunners to be found. And while this is my first trip here, it certainly won't be my last.

Anyways, flew over on EVA through Taipei. That was the biggest hassle of the trip thus far. Eventually landed in Bangkok and made my way through customs. It might have been coincidence but a large number of Russians coming though at the same time. Had prearranged a bus ride to Pattaya and made it with minutes to spare. Bus cost was 280 Baht. Staying at the LK Residence on LK Metro. It's adequate, but definitely needs an upgrade. Had originally arranged for a room but found there was no separate shower. After nearly killing myself getting out of the tub / European shower, upgraded to a Jr. Suite with a shower. The room is fine for my needs, but certainly has signs of wear (flooring pulling up, outdated fixtures). Biggest problem is they have not upgraded the outlets so only 1 USB port in my room to charge my phone. Room cost was $400 for my 5 nights here. It does have a pool which is small, but serviceable.

First day got checked in and tried to get a short nap in. I had signed up for TF and upgraded to premium a week before I left. Had arranged for three meetings. Messaged the first through Line and she came right over. 24 years old, sweet and definitely earned her 1000 baht as the long flight had definitely caused performance issues. But she persevered and made sure the task was completed. No kissing, but everything else was on the menu. Walked over to Soi 13/2 for a massage at Happy (I think). Oil massage for 300 baht plus full service. The massage was terrible, but she got the job done at least. Took the night off as I was exhausted from the flight.

Day 2 - Arranged for lunch with another TF contact at Noon. Enjoyed lunch and then dessert back in the room. 30 years old and still a nice tight body. Looked a little better before the shower with makeup on but certainly attractive. (Maybe a 6 or 6.5). Same as Day 1 but a little kissing allowed. 1000 Baht. Took a nap to still recover from jet lag and went out with a friend to a seafood place just off of Walking Street. Couldn't believe the fresh crab or pricing for it. Dinner with 2 crabs was about 1200 baht. Walked up and down Walking Street for awhile. The neon and sheer quantity of people can be a bit overwhelming. My friend said that tourism looked a bit down and there were perhaps only 40% of the normal people. I have no idea if that's true but Chinese New Year is ending so maybe a brief lull.

I had checked out posts here and had a few go-gos on my list, including Palace and Sapphire. Walked past Skyfall and was ignored by the girls in front confirming the information that it's mostly for Asian customers. Walked into Sapphire and got a seat at the stage. Took about an hour to just get my bearings. 12-15 very attractive women swaying on stage that changed up every 30 minutes. From an American perspective, this was way more than we'the ever see in a club. Bought a few lady drinks and chatted but decided not to BF anyone as I was just too tired from travel and earlier activities. Total damage was about 1900 Baht for drinks. Walked out on Walking Street to go home and still plenty of talent on display, but still not jammed.

Plans for today include finding a tailor to make a suit and heading back to Sapphire and Palace tonight. Hopefully this wasn't too rambling for my first report.

IMembr
02-17-19, 07:15
I was there in January for a week, and my experience was different. It has been a few years since I stopped picking chicks from gogo clubs. In this recent trip, I had an FL from beach road practically every day, and I was relatively happy with the quality. I picked them up at all times of the day, until 2 am.January is a bit busier time of the year. Going back after Songkran, definitely not expecting much again. Not sure how different your experience can be when my quote states plenty of young, thing FLs out there still.


There out tlll sunrise just got to know where to look.Not trying to play Where's Waldo. Beach Road isn't the same as earlier in the decade when I 1st visited though not as bleak as what another person made it out to be.

Banana Boi
02-17-19, 15:45
Walked past Skyfall and was ignored by the girls in front confirming the information that it's mostly for Asian customers. Don't let the girls in front of a bar be a determinate of how welcome you are in a bar and the talent of girls inside. That Sensations coyote who has stood in front of Sensations for 3 years now doesn't say Hi to anyone, Asians included. If you prefer Farang gogo bars you can check out LK Metro near your hotel. Walk in to a bar that looks interesting to you. It's free to walk in and out of every single bar and soapie anywhere in Pattaya.

Rick Rock
02-19-19, 02:11
Croc love your posts but my experience is totally different. No begging involved. Of course the hotter the girl the harder to bag but I gave up hunting 10's a long time ago.LOL! "Hunting for 10's" in Thailand" you may find that the hunter dies before he can find the prey.

Rick Rock
02-19-19, 02:15
I haven't reported in ages - hate to add to the gloom. Pattaya providers dwindling to only the old and fat - Thailand's birthrate has fallen to Japanese level, and tiny younger generations mean fewer replacements in sex biz, so the odds are against us. I still have some fun here along Soi Honey or Chaiyaphum, but beach Rd is finished.This is totally honest. Anyone with long experience in Pattaya and Thailand will recognize the truth in this statement.

Along with the falling birth rate is a very high teen pregnancy rate. This means that even when 19-25 year olds wind up hooking in Pattaya, they usually have baby damaged stomachs and saggy tits.

Oh, how the mighty have fallen.

Rick Rock
02-19-19, 02:16
Been having some success getting LINE ID's and then finding out if they are truely freelance or just looking to date. Had an interesting chat with a new girl who was sending back oddly worded english replies with misspellings that google translate would never have given. I then switched my responses to Thai so that I could double check the translation to make sure I was being understood. Her response though was unexpected, she said she wanted my responses in english since it was easier for her to understand. Girl was young and new to Pattaya and working in a bar so I wonder if I was chatting with someone else and not her.She was probably Cambodian or Burmese.

Steve 9696
02-19-19, 02:25
Would like to thank all of the senior members and those that posted reports on the goings-on here in Pattaya. Especially FLHawk, BananaBoi, Mr. E and others. That made planning my trip far easier and gave me an opportunity of what to expect. I'm trying to list prices as well, but some are in Baht and others in US dollars. I've never travelled to Thailand before, but have been to Tijuana on several occasions. My first impressions after 36 hours in Pattaya are that this scene completely blows Tijuana out of the water. The sheer quantity and quality of girls is a shade overwhelming. Since I've never been here before I'm really not qualified to say whether quality has decreased over the years, but from a newbie's perspective, there are certainly some stunners to be found. And while this is my first trip here, it certainly won't be my last.

Anyways, flew over on EVA through Taipei. That was the biggest hassle of the trip thus far. Eventually landed in Bangkok and made my way through customs. It might have been coincidence but a large number of Russians coming though at the same time. Had prearranged a bus ride to Pattaya and made it with minutes to spare. Bus cost was 280 Baht. Staying at the LK Residence on LK Metro. It's adequate, but definitely needs an upgrade. Had originally arranged for a room but found there was no separate shower. After nearly killing myself getting out of the tub / European shower, upgraded to a Jr. Suite with a shower. The room is fine for my needs, but certainly has signs of wear (flooring pulling up, outdated fixtures). Biggest problem is they have not upgraded the outlets so only 1 USB port in my room to charge my phone. Room cost was $400 for my 5 nights here. It does have a pool which is small, but serviceable.

First day got checked in and tried to get a short nap in. I had signed up for TF and upgraded to premium a week before I left. Had arranged for three meetings. Messaged the first through Line and she came right over. 24 years old, sweet and definitely earned her 1000 baht as the long flight had definitely caused performance issues. But she persevered and made sure the task was completed. No kissing, but everything else was on the menu. Walked over to Soi 13/2 for a massage at Happy (I think). Oil massage for 300 baht plus full service. The massage was terrible, but she got the job done at least. Took the night off as I was exhausted from the flight..Great report and wonderful to see someone new to the scene. So many guys in here are jaded from fucking in Thailand for 10!years that they complain. Others who come less frequently and have a western aesthetic see things differently. I find tons more Asian women attractive than do the jaded locals. So it is not surprising that you being new found the buffet appealing.

Just enjoy yourself and keep posting! (And if you like Thailand have you done German FKK Or Brazil? Both are quite worthy).

IMembr
02-19-19, 06:55
Along with the falling birth rate is a very high teen pregnancy rate. This means that even when 19-25 year olds wind up hooking in Pattaya, they usually have baby damaged stomachs and saggy tits.The birth rate is falling but there is more baby damage. OK.

Dumbass
02-19-19, 07:38
Let me explain. 95% of my past trips to Patts where extensions of SEA business trips. Any work trips to Hong Kong or Singapore almost always meant a trip to Patts for a long weekend. I decided to take a trip because my buddy is getting married in the Philippines and I helped him book a detour to Patts. So glad he left after 3 days because he ran out of money and made all the newbie mistakes I warned him against. Also for some reason he could not do the exchange rate. I kept saying just drop the zero and divide by 3.

This is my first time back in about 10 years. I expected rates to change, but was a little surprised that bar fine on Soi 6 was 1500. I found 2 decent beach Road gals for 1500ST. I used to love Soi 7 and Soi 8. Now they are a complete waste of time. Walking street is always fun because of the vibe. Go inside a club or GOGO and the story changes. I saw a few guys in clubs like Miami where the hostesses are very cute, but are not leaving with you. (My buddy found out the hard way after 3 k in lady drinks and 3 hrs of wasted time.) There is no fun for me to spend $100 USD for a cute Thai girl to smile at me and laugh at my jokes and tell me how young I look.

You can't even sit for 1 min without getting the shit bugged out of you to buy something to drink. I know the deal is to get all your money as fast as possible, but there was a lot more chill attitude 10 years ago. Also going rate is 3 k ST plus 1500 BF. You'll likely spend 1500 in drinks and tips. So that's $200 USD total for about 1 HR in your room. Then she'll ask for tips for motor bike taxi. This is not the Patts I remember.

I hear the freelance scene is a little better in places like Lucifer. Problem is I am 53 and 2 am bar hopping is not my scene. So if you are like me. Take a late nap and head out at 1 am for club freelancers. Even the damn soapy let me down. The host stole money from my buddy. Never gave him his change back. Also I don't remember "tiered" pricing before. The enhanced girls who stare at their phone most of the time were 3 K. Plus tip.

Stayed at March Hotel off 2nd Road and Soi 5. Nice hotel but a little far from the action. Basically brand new for 35 USD a night. Each room has dedicated WiFi. Check it out on YouTube.

Overall I had a pretty good time, but for me, not worth paying for the whole trip. Now that I have adjusted to the new price stucture, every gogo felt like OT in Singapore. I have NEVER left Patts disappointed, until now.

I wonder if the internet has created a decline worldwide in P4 P services.

Pointy Stick
02-19-19, 10:07
This is my first time back in about 10 years. I expected rates to change, but was a little surprised that bar fine on Soi 6 was 1500. I found 2 decent beach Road gals for 1500ST.I used to hit Pattaya back in 2011-13. Soi 6 used to be 800 baht and BR around 500 depending on the girl. These prices suck. The girls on the 6 are not that good looking and the rooms are shit from memory. For another 600 baht I can get a much better looking girl in Addict Massage Bangkok for an hour. I can get white uni 23 yo girl turning tricks to makes end meet to fuck me for 4,500 baht in Sydney whom I have much more in common with than paying this much for a marginally attractive peasant rice farmer.

Jay0940
02-19-19, 10:35
So, after taking the night off on Day 2, slept in for a bit on Day 3. I'm having a couple of suits and pants made for me while I'm here so went over to Soi 15/4 for another fitting. Prices were far cheaper than USA But will have to see how the clothing stands up once I finally get it. Then decided that, since I'm here, I had to at least check out a Thai soapie. Took the baht bus over to Sabai Room. Again, a bit overwhelming for someone from the USA But essentially you get ushered into a room with a long bar at one end, tables to sit at, and the girls in two (or three) tiers on the one side. Ordered a drink and went over the selection which appeared pretty decent. Basic tier was 2000 Baht and next tier up was 2400 Baht. The higher priced tier definitely were slimmer and a bit cuter than the first tier. I had read here what to expect so I wanted to select a lady with more assets above the waist. Took #151 and upstairs we went. I won't bore everyone with the details (the services in Pattaya soapies are well documented) but I certainly enjoyed the experience. From my perspective, if you're going to a Pattaya soapie for an awesome sexual encounter, you are looking for nothing but disappointment. If you're going to enjoy the pampering and the experience, it's probably worth the price. I've read Bangkok soapies are an entirely different animal but yet to experience. The real negative part was the manager's attitude and insistence for a tip. I was like, "Tip for what? Standing here?

Anyways, took a nap, met up with a friend for dinner and then went back to Walking Street at about 9:30 pm It was a Sunday so a bit slower than the previous night but still packed. Eventually made my way to Tantra. Grabbed a brew and watched 2 changes in the lineup. Did not like the layout of the club (too cramped) and the girls were not to my liking. I prefer a bit of curve and none of that was to be found. The guy next to me pulled out his phone and started to video the girls on stage. The hostess saw him immediately and slapped the phone away. I decided discretion was the better part of valor and headed for the door before security exited him from the premises.

Stopped into Infinity and again checked out the lineup. I thought it was a bit better than Tantra, but nothing really tickled my fancy. Walked over to Sensations and thought the lineup was poor, compared to the other clubs. Finally, went back over to Sapphire. I will pass along one adage for any newbies. When a Thai gogo dancer says "let's meet up with my friends" after you barfine her, you are in for an expensive and LONG night. I had seen 3-4 girls that met my criteria the night before, but had passed due to over consumption. It was far less crowded on Sunday versus the previous evening. Called over 1 girl for a couple of lady drinks but wasn't feeling a vibe. Saw a stunner from the night before and ordered her a couple of drinks as well. #244 (Ja? Long story short, much better vibe and the look I was going for. 5 K Baht for long-time which is the going rate (I know, everything is negotiable). Barfine and drinks (plus drinking games with the hostesses and mamasan) added up to another 1700 Baht.

Went over to Lucifer and she asked if she could have a couple of girlfriends meet up with us. Sure, no problem, I thought. Then bottle service. Then more drinking games with the friends and their friends. It was a long night. Great fun and since it's my first time here it was kind of nice to have someone show me around, but a bit pricey. I think the bottle cost with all the mixers when it was said and done was like 5000 Baht. Anyways, I'm on vacation. Then we just had to go over to a gogo in LK Metro for another friend's birthday. By now, the girl I'd barfined was hammered and it's time to start feeding water. Then, motorbike over to a restaurant past Soi Boukhao with her friend. They order dinner. Another 1000 Baht. But, again, I'd never have gone there without a local, the food was really good, and I'm paying a premium for the tour guide. Finally ended up back at my place and the alcohol had taken its toll on her. Within 5 minutes she's out.

Day 4-4.5.

Woke up next morning at 9:00 am And she's still out. 12:00 pm Still out. Finally got her up at 3:00 pm Eventually woke her up enough to get Round 1. Looked just as good without the clothes as in them. Responded well and seemed to enjoy. Picked us up some dinner from Ruenthai on Second Road (really good food) for 300 Baht. Had dinner together and she left at around 5:00 pm I was beat and took a short nap. Had another fitting for the pants at the tailor and then responded to the TF girl I'd met on Day 2. Went over to Next Best Bar on Soi 8. Played some pool and some dice game (Jackpot?) with her and mamasan. Total drinks and BF was 1400 Baht. Thai holiday the next day so bar closed at midnight. Went back to hotel and again, she fell asleep shortly thereafter. I did get Round 1 in the morning which was again, really good. Had breakfast together at McHead Restaurant on Second Road (decent English breakfast) for 300 Baht and then had to go back to my hotel to get some work done.

Overall, soapies are exactly what everyone here has said. I doubt you're going to get anything uncovered, the manager and attendants all have their hands out for tips and aren't bashful, but if you enjoy some pampering, you'll probably think it was worth the money. The going rates for ST and LT posted by BananaBoi for tourists appear to be very accurate. If you're a local or regular I'm sure discounts are there to be had. I did not visit Soi 6 but saw some cuties on Soi 8 so the occasional "diamond in the rough" is still there. Plenty of stunners in the major gogo's for all preferences, whether you like them tall and slim or more hourglass. I have no information to compare from 5 or 10 years ago, but these are just my perceptions as a first-timer. And the food and other costs here are substantially cheaper (than USA Or even Mexico) which made up for the long flight over. One more night and the bus picks me up tomorrow morning.

Chris H
02-19-19, 15:55
Great report and wonderful to see someone new to the scene. So many guys in here are jaded from fucking in Thailand for 10!years that they complain. Others who come less frequently and have a western aesthetic see things differently. I find tons more Asian women attractive than do the jaded locals. So it is not surprising that you being new found the buffet appealing.

Just enjoy yourself and keep posting! (And if you like Thailand have you done German FKK Or Brazil? Both are quite worthy).This is so true, these old guys on this forum always whining and complaining about pussy. Who does that, #weirdos.

Paolo99
02-19-19, 16:15
She was probably Cambodian or Burmese.Or maybe the "Thai messages " he sent her were not understandable.

Turgid
02-19-19, 18:20
............... The real negative part was the manager's attitude and insistence for a tip. I was like, "Tip for what? Standing here?......................... When a Thai gogo dancer says "let's meet up with my friends" after you barfine her, you are in for an expensive and LONG night................... a bit pricey. I think the bottle cost with all the mixers when it was said and done was like 5000 Baht. Anyways, I'm on vacation. ........................If you are American they expect more from you, your fellow countrymen have set the trend.

Breadman
02-19-19, 20:15
Jay0940 may I suggest you check out a fabulous pick me up that all the stores stock and its only 30 cents, its called M150 (don't buy the supercharged version it sucks). Its like red bull on steroids but in a good way. Keep a few bottles on hand for when you feel tired yet have a girl in your room, in fact make a mixed drink out of it and give some to the girl as well. That will keep her from going off to sleep.

Pointy Stick
02-20-19, 09:26
Great report and wonderful to see someone new to the scene. So many guys in here are jaded from fucking in Thailand for 10!years that they complain. Others who come less frequently and have a western aesthetic see things differently. I find tons more Asian women attractive than do the jaded locals. So it is not surprising that you being new found the buffet appealing.

Just enjoy yourself and keep posting! (And if you like Thailand have you done German FKK Or Brazil? Both are quite worthy).The Western aesthetic is for Issan girls who are dark skinned with high more pronounced cheekbones. They usually come from peasant backgrounds in the North East.

Mombie75
02-20-19, 18:16
Hi gents,

A friend has got a week to spare so we will hit Thailand, what would you gents say is the difference between Bangkok vs Pattaya for a week?

Is there much difference at all? Apart from a beach.

MeatMan
02-20-19, 22:11
Jay0940 may I suggest you check out a fabulous pick me up that all the stores stock and its only 30 cents, its called M150 (don't buy the supercharged version it sucks). Its like red bull on steroids but in a good way. Keep a few bottles on hand for when you feel tired yet have a girl in your room, in fact make a mixed drink out of it and give some to the girl as well. That will keep her from going off to sleep.M150 tastes like cough medicine but it will have you doing cartwheels through hot charcoal!. Drink it in moderation.

Banana Boi
02-20-19, 22:23
A friend has got a week to spare so we will hit Thailand, what would you gents say is the difference between Bangkok vs Pattaya for a week?Split your time between the 2 cities so you see both. It's been said many times before, 2 days Bangkok, go to Pattaya and stay for as long as you are having a good time, then back to Bangkok. It's a 90-120 minute taxi ride costing you between 1300-1500 baht. Much cheaper transportation around 200 baht per person if you don't mind hopping in to a minivan / bus with others.

Don't listen to anyone's opinion on here on which is better. There are pro Pattaya and pro Bangkok guys. Go to both and make your own opinion. They are both worth seeing.

If good food matters at all as it certainly does for me, Bangkok is WAY better than Pattaya.

Member #4698
02-20-19, 22:53
Don't listen to anyone's opinion on here on which is better. There are pro Pattaya and pro Bangkok guys. Go to both and make your own opinion. They are both worth seeing.
That is good advice BB. As a "pro Bangkok guy" I got to say, I spent a long weekend in Pattaya in October after a 2 year hiatus and I had a great time & met some damn sexy girls. I still prefer the big city overall because there is more to do, more variety, and yes better restaurants, but I have already booked another weekend sidetrip from BKK in May and looking forward to it. BKK is the big city. Patt is the resort town. Take you pick. Both good for what you want/what you need - girls.

Blanquiceleste
02-21-19, 01:37
Is there much difference at all? Apart from a beach.Night and Day, IMHO.

But I like BB's advice of visiting both places to get your own perspective and then sticking to what you like better. I love both places, but BKK edges out PYX marginally on several parameters.

Banana Boi
02-21-19, 06:10
For me the biggest difference between BKK and Pattaya is the clientele. The gogo bars in both cities have fairly similar clientele since they are the more expensive places to hobby. However, most of the low cost Pattaya beer bars attract customers who look much more poor and ghetto than the average BKK beer bar customers. In Pattaya, you will see more guys wearing tank tops, sandals, and dirty sometimes putrid clothes. It's not just the way guys dress some of the Pattaya guys just look poor as fuck.

Allover
02-21-19, 06:39
Split your time between the 2 cities so you see both. It's been said many times before, 2 days Bangkok, go to Pattaya and stay for as long as you are having a good time, then back to Bangkok. It's a 90-120 minute taxi ride costing you between 1300-1500 baht. Much cheaper transportation around 200 baht per person if you don't mind hopping in to a minivan / bus with others.

Don't listen to anyone's opinion on here on which is better. There are pro Pattaya and pro Bangkok guys. Go to both and make your own opinion. They are both worth seeing.

If good food matters at all as it certainly does for me, Bangkok is WAY better than Pattaya.I like them both. Since I will now visit for longer periods, I will stay mostly in Pattaya due to lower costs and a more laid back atmosphere. But I always spend the last 5 nights of my trips in BKK. Without question both should be experienced. BB, I don't think I have ever heard you express a preference for BKK before. I'm a little surprised by that.

Franciscass
02-21-19, 08:21
Hi gents,

A friend has got a week to spare so we will hit Thailand, what would you gents say is the difference between Bangkok vs Pattaya for a week?

Is there much difference at all? Apart from a beach.Pattaya or Bangkok. Because I live in Thailand its Bangkok but for visitors I recommend Pattaya. Easier to get around and the mongering is totally immersive, you cannot turn a corner down there without walking into a working girl. It has the beach such as it is, trips to the islands and other happy holiday bits and pieces.

It takes time to know and understand Bangkok, how to get around, where to eat but when you live here for a while, get used to the traffic and become familiar with the scene there is no comparison.

D Cups
02-21-19, 15:31
I like them both. I will stay mostly in Pattaya due to lower costs and a more laid back atmosphere. But I always spend the last 5 nights of my trips in BKK. Without question both should be experienced.I am going to both cities and Phuket in September. Has anyone flown with Nok Airlines? I understand their flight attendants are super cute.

Banana Boi
02-21-19, 18:53
BB, I don't think I have ever heard you express a preference for BKK before. I'm a little surprised by that.I was referring to food and I think everyone with any taste buds would agree Bangkok restaurants are WAY better than Pattaya restaurants.

For my taste in girls Bangkok does have the single best establishment in both cities, Thermae.

Member #4698
02-21-19, 19:34
For my taste in girls Bangkok does have the single best establishment in both cities, Thermae.This is a perfect example illustrating different preferences & tastes among different punters. I almost never take a girl out of Thermae. I am just not into the Thermae look and I especially dislike the way the girls dress, even the sexy ones. Add to that, the ones that act super friendly to me and appear eager to be chosen are the least desirable physically IMHO. Opinions may vary. Which is my point.

The places I like most in BKK are certain favorite Go Go's & Soapies. Pattaya has some great Go Go's too as I remarked in my last post. I was duly impressed, but Pattaya's soapies can't compete with BKK soapies. Its like the difference between Formula 1 (BKK) and Formula 2 (Pattaya) racing as far as soapies are concerned. Again, opinions may vary.

Breadman
02-21-19, 22:30
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Allover
02-22-19, 05:39
I am going to both cities and Phuket in September. Has anyone flown with Nok Airlines? I understand their flight attendants are super cute.

In case you didn't know Bangkok Airways flies non-stop between Pattaya and Phuket. Pattaya airport was about 1 hour by taxi from Walking Street last summer. My driver told me a new section of highway to be completed by now will make it a much shorter trip. Air Asia also flies that route non-stop.

I absolutely hate the taxi ride between BKK and Pattaya and will do anything to avoid it.

UniversalX
02-22-19, 09:33
Hi gents,

A friend has got a week to spare so we will hit Thailand, what would you gents say is the difference between Bangkok vs Pattaya for a week?

Is there much difference at all? Apart from a beach.I have been to both and would say BKK is best (I am more of a City guy). To me Pattaya was more of a tourist area (don't get me wrong there is plenty of activity to get into if you know what I mean) I don't plan to ever go there again but that's my preference. I would probably do a BKK & (Phuket or Chiang Mai) on my next visit. However If you never been before then try to split time and experience both. I don't think you would go wrong plus read up there is plenty of valuable info here on both!

Zman429
02-22-19, 09:49
In case you didn't know Bangkok Airways flies non-stop between Pattaya and Phuket. Pattaya airport was about 1 hour by taxi from Walking Street last summer. My driver told me a new section of highway to be completed by now will make it a much shorter trip. Air Asia also flies that route non-stop.

I absolutely hate the taxi ride between BKK and Pattaya and will do anything to avoid it.I went to Malaysia via UTP and can't say its really any quicker or easier.

D Cups
02-22-19, 14:37
In case you didn't know Bangkok Airways flies non-stop between Pattaya and Phuket. Pattaya airport was about 1 hour by taxi from Walking Street last summer. My driver told me a new section of highway to be completed by now will make it a much shorter trip. Air Asia also flies that route non-stop.

I absolutely hate the taxi ride between BKK and Pattaya and will do anything to avoid it.Good to know, Allover. This is news to me. Thanks.

IMembr
02-22-19, 16:51
Hi gents,

A friend has got a week to spare so we will hit Thailand, what would you gents say is the difference between Bangkok vs Pattaya for a week?

Is there much difference at all? Apart from a beach.This depends on what time of the year you go. There's more girls in Pattaya from November to about March whereas Bangkok has solid amount year round. This isn't to say Pattaya is a ghost town because it's still worth visiting. A ride to Pattaya is 1000 to 1500 b / trip. It's cheaper to holiday there though the gogo's have reached Bangkok prices. Pattaya is great if the preference is a more laid back trip and without much of the noise of the city. Bangkok is great if the preference is restaurants, roof bars, and being in a city.

Breadman
02-22-19, 21:22
Been having a very good success rate getting LINE ID's from Thai Friendly, seems the best time to ask is right before your trip. But it is hit and miss, many girls don't respond but those that do give their LINE ID's are usually freelancers. You can also tell by some girls Thai Friendly ID that it might be their LINE ID as well and do a quick search. Works OK if they are freelancers but got a few regular girls who did get a bit upset when asked if they were free for sex.

Dive Monger
02-24-19, 01:12
Just arrived in Pattaya for a few days of fun. PM me if you are here and would like to meet up.

Josh Dales
02-24-19, 01:35
For Americans: See Bangkok as Thailands New York, and Pattaya as LOS Angeles, and Phuket would then be Miami.

For Europeans: See Bangkok as Berlin / Amsterdam and Pattaya as Cannes / Hamburg, and Phuket would then be Barcelona.

For South Americans (why the fck anyone from SA would visit Asia beats me) See Bangkok as Bogota / Lima, and Pattaya as Rio, and Phuket would be Cartagena.

IMHO, I think that is a good way to see the difference, cheers JD.

P.S: don't even think about Betong, you will be lost, you will feel you are missing out. You 100% will do miss out. (No Country for old men / Rookies).


The difference of BKK vs Pattaya? This depends on what time of the year you go. There's more girls in Pattaya from November to about March whereas Bangkok has solid amount year round. This isn't to say Pattaya is a ghost town because it's still worth visiting. A ride to Pattaya is 1000 to 1500 b / trip. It's cheaper to holiday there though the gogo's have reached Bangkok prices. Pattaya is great if the preference is a more laid back trip and without much of the noise of the city. Bangkok is great if the preference is restaurants, roof bars, and being in a city.

XXL
02-24-19, 01:40
This depends on what time of the year you go. There's more girls in Pattaya from November to about March whereas Bangkok has solid amount year round. ...Uhm. Soi 6 in Pattaya was dead in December and January compared to right now. Don't know If the good times will go on into March.

LoneWolff
02-24-19, 02:21
Between my first visit in Nov'17 and right now I see no difference in quality or quantity of girls on Soi6.

The place has enough girls to find one that would suit your preference. But it takes patience and walking back and forth multiple times. Also all girls don't prefer to sit outside during the hot afternoon hours so the girl that might turn you on is not necessarily sitting outside.

Mr Enternational
02-24-19, 04:10
Best way to ask a "normal girl" (7-11, coffee house, etc) worker if they do ST or LT without offending them? I see her often on Holiday so don't want to make it weird if she don't.As I was saying, just be normal.

In December me and my brother were walking down Second Road. Some chicks were sitting out front of a massage parlor. As we passed, I saw one I liked and stopped to talk to her. We exchanged info. I did not get to see her before I left. I had spoken to her once in the 2 months that I have been gone. In that conversation she told me that she is 23 years old. I am 46.

I arrived yesterday and popped into her massage shop to see her. She said she thought I was full of it. Somehow it got to the subject of me cleaning my room or looking for someone to clean it since it gets really dirty when I am not here. She asked how much I pay and I told her 500. She said she would come do it at 6 when she got off.

One chick did my nails and she gave me a head and shoulders massage. I ended up falling asleep during the massage and she just left me to sleep. I woke up at 6:30 pm. She said she had to run and do some shopping and would come to my room in 40 minutes.

I know that 40 minutes will turn into 40 days with chicks, so I did some running around then went to eat to burn up time. I still had not heard from her, so I went home and started spring cleaning my own damn room. She called and said she is sorry that she is running late but would be on the way now. I said shit, I am almost finished cleaning now. She asked if I still wanted her to come now or tomorrow instead. I said still come now.

I put on the movie Crazy Rich Asians for her while I finished cleaning. It was 33 degrees in my room. I finished and turned on the a/c and went to take a shower. I came out and told her to go take a shower. She said that she would take one when she got to her room. I said no go take one now since you are laying in my clean bed.

She came out with a towel on and was playing that shy role. She said she was scared because she had never been with a Black guy. We had a great time fucking and after she told me that if she is ever to busy to come over then fell free to take another girl.

We fell asleep and she woke me up at 1:30 am to take her to her room in Naklua. She had told me how good her room was and that it was new for 4500 baht per month, same as mine. She said it just didn't have a/c but she does not like a/c anyway. So when we got there I came in to check it out. We talked a lot and she ended up feeding me chocolate and fruit. I finally left at 3 am because she had to drive to her aunt's house in Sattahip.

ZERO baht. That is why you treat people as normal people instead of trying to make everyone out to be hookers.

Josh Dales
02-24-19, 07:10
As I was saying, just be normal.

In December me and my brother were walking down Second Road. Some chicks were sitting out front of a massage parlor. As we passed, I saw one I liked and stopped to talk to her. We exchanged info. I did not get to see her before I left. I had spoken to her once in the 2 months that I have been gone. In that conversation she told me that she is 23 years old. I am 46.

I arrived yesterday and popped into her massage shop to see her. She said she thought I was full of it. Somehow it got to the subject of me cleaning my room or looking for someone to clean it since it gets really dirty when I am not here. She asked how much I pay and I told her 500. She said she would come do it at 6 when she got off.

One chick did my nails and she gave me a head and shoulders massage. I ended up falling asleep during the massage and she just left me to sleep. I woke up at 6:30 pm. She said she had to run and do some shopping and would come to my room in 40 minutes..The last line, treat people as normal people, works more often than not in 3rd /2nd world countries. Don't be trigger happy.

XXL
02-24-19, 07:40
Between my first visit in Nov'17 and right now I see no difference in quality or quantity of girls on Soi6...I visit early, no later than 4 pm. Hence perhaps different experiences.

Mr Enternational
02-24-19, 12:14
When I arrived at the airport yesterday morning I went downstairs as usual to see what time the bus was leaving. It would be over an hour. Fuck that. I took the elevator to the 4th floor and went outside to the taxis. First guy I talked to, asked him how much to Pattaya. He said how much you pay? I said 900. He said let's go. He started the meter.

I told him that I knew the tolls were 60 baht. He said they were now 105 baht. I didn't check or anything. I just ended up handing him 1100 baht when it was time to pay the tolls. He stopped off later at a gas station.

When we arrived at my place, the meter read 1137 baht for 1 hour 42 minutes and 125km.

HornDog 3
02-25-19, 06:40
I got in late last night. Took a walk over to Kink Agogo. Bought a drink and watched the ladies for awhile. It was nice to no be bothered for lady drinks. I did pull a girl of off the stage. Her name was Kim. Very nice girl. Told me that she was been dancing for 1 week. (yea right) said she was a beer bar girl before. Anyway, I had a few drinks with her and played touchy feely. Got her LINE ID. Called her this morning and she is coming over at 2:00 pm. I left there and was walking back to my room and an older but very attractive massage girl at Privi massage talked me into a foot massage.

I did not get her name. (stupid shit) while she was doing the massage. There was a cute girl massaging a guy in the next row. She kept on loooking and smiling at me. When she was done with the guy she cam over by me and started to talk with me. She asked if I wanted a manicure. I said yes. Now one would think the she would have gotten a chair and sit next to me to trim my nails. But instead she sat on the arm of the chair and provided to place my have between her legs so she massage my upper arm. When the other lady started massaging my legs, Sunny, then cute one started to massage my inner thighs and brush my balls and cock. The older girl said I should take Sunny to my room. I said later. I paid 200 for the foot massage and 200 for the manicure. Tipped both girls and as I was sitting out side Sunny gave me a piece of paper with her number. I called when I got back to my room. She is coming to my room at 5:00 pm.

Now what to do for dinner tonight. Then later maybe hit up a soapy.

Banana Boi
02-25-19, 07:13
Nice work, Horndog. Now that's how it's done guys. There is absolutely no need to pay barfines in gogo bars. Just arrange for the girl to come by after her date with a guy who has paid her barfine already or arrange for before/after work or her free day. There is no need to pay 2000 baht barfines at gogo bars. Arrangements always made to see gogo girls on their free time.

Re. Soapies, best to go earlier around 5 or 6 pm. Most girls already there. Leave it as a day time activity keeping nights free for gogo bars or your favorite beer bar.

Dive Monger
02-25-19, 09:21
Ok guys, I figure this better write these as I go along since when I leave it to after I return home it seems it never gets written. So pardon brevity and spelling mistakes I'm doing this using my phone in a Soi 13 bar whilst the staff is cleaning the used rubbers and stained sheets in my room LOL.

Arrival.

After the usual airline fuckups I arrived 6 hours later than planned at the Poom and my driver was there as promised, I use tanstaxi.com always now due to the total reliability and excellent communications if things go awry, 1300 baht from the arrivals meeting point to my hotel door. A bit more than many pay but I like Tann. Recommended. Arrived in mid-morning.

Soi 6 on arrival.

Not wanting to waste a lot of valuable time, I headed to Soi 6 in early afternoon. I walked all the way there along Beach Road. Counted 8 providers available along the coconut bar but did not inquire as to terms. Only 2 were doable, all looked pretty rough. Walked up Soi 6 to 2nd Rd. Checking out the talent. 2:30 pm and all bars open with seemingly a full cadre of gash present and soliciting customers. Ended up having my interest piqued by some cuties and good music at Hot Chile bar, went in and ordered a beer. Sent the first one back then settled on a very cute quite young one, new on the scene.

Ahm was 20 yo, the kind of figure I like (150 cm 41 kg) but zero English. Google translate to the rescue. I made the decision for an LT correctly assuming I'll need time to warm this hottie up as I am in my mid- sixties. But first box to check on this trip was doing one that is one third my age or less. Mission accomplished.

Provider specs: the good.

Ahm couldn't have been cuter or a closer match to my physical preferences. Once warmed up back at my hotel she was a good fuck. As it was LT after 3 hour we had a second round.

Provider specs: the bad.

Turns out she had a baby 4 months earlier and needed to turn tricks to send money home for baby care. Shagging was good, but BBBJ was nearly nonexistent and anal was not an option. As always, when failing to do a proper pre-punting interview because of again thinking with the little head there was some service disappointment. Some baby damage but not too terrible. Clearly went to work before any serious breastfeeding as boobs were like a teenage virgin.

Provider specs: cost.

Fucking bar wanted 1000 barfine for LT, the mamasan there is a nasrty piece of work. But Ahm did the nasty for 1500 LT, small tip and taxi money, all in ended up being 3000. Too expensive, but I am a fat old ugly bastard and she was a young doll, so in the end I am still a happy camper.

Provider specs: rating.

Body: 8/10 (base 9. 5 but deduction for baby damage).

Face: 9/10 (I am a sucker for full lips and dimples).

BBBJ: 1/10.

DFK: 2/10.

Anal: 0/10.

Fuckmg: 7/10 (multiple positions, good effort).

COF: 0/10.

CIM: 0/10.

Overall: as expected. No rush none of this "hurry up and come" bullshit.

Would repeat: probably not, too many other fish in the sea.

Sent her back, and got ready to meet wingmen and head out to dinner.

To be continued.

Dive Monger
02-26-19, 10:06
Met up with wingmen. One very experienced monger and one newbie in full thrash. Checked out some beer bars and walked around trying to find the big seafood place for dinner. Didn't find the one we were looking for, but found another one on second road around Soi 11 or so it was ok. Headed to Kink in LK, second floor. Pretty wild full contact, acrobatics fully nude onstage, pussy eating at stage side if you are into that sort of public thing, etc. Back on the couches you get hustled for lady drinks - 180 to 250 baht depending on what she gets, and you can play with her tits and maybe pussy too. But only for about 10 minutes max and they are hustling you for another drink. 100 baht tip for playing with her parts and sent her on her way. Some big tits up there, but most of the girls are pretty chunky. Too zaftig for my tastes. My one beer plus 1 lady drink 330 baht. So. Expensive but fun for an occasional experience. There were some wild guys there throwing handfuls of 20's onto the stage to watch the bimbo scrum. About every half hour or so the stage drops down to the fully clothed first floor and all the girls do a sodtcore lesbian show for 10 minutes and then it rises back up for the naughty play upstairs. We went out of there after less than an hour in the interest of staying reasonably solvent, and headed out to the rest of LK to prowl for evening company.

To be continued.

Banana Boi
02-26-19, 10:26
Back on the couches you get hustled for lady drinks - 180 to 250 baht depending on what she gets, and you can play with her tits and maybe pussy too. But only for about 10 minutes max and they are hustling you for another drink. 100 baht tip for playing with her parts and sent her on her way. I don't recall any other gogo bar in Pattaya charging different rates for lady drinks other than coyotes are usually 50 baht less than "models" who are topless or nude. You mentioned you were upstairs so weren't all those "Models"?

I've also never heard a gogo bar in Pattaya charging 250 baht for a lady drink, especially not in budget conscious LK Metro. You should try some of the other high mileage gogo bars in Pattaya for prettier skanky girls because I was at Kink downstairs twice this week and it scared me when they lowered the stage and I had to even look at the "models" from upstairs.

You mentioned you were with a very experienced monger. Why didn't he tell you that you were being hustled having to buy drinks for girls every 10 minutes and that you needed to tip them 100 baht to touch them. Neither is true. I have NEVER had to tip a girl extra to feel them up. 3 to 4 drinks maximum per hour is the right pace to keep a girl there all night.

Marine Seafood is ok and inexpensive. Located on one of the side sois off Walking Street near Peppermint gogo. http://www.bangkok.com/pattaya/pattaya-top10s/top10-seafood-restaurants.htm

Not criticizing you I'm appreciative of some actual gogo bar reviews. Just trying to help you save some cash.

Mr Enternational
02-26-19, 14:04
Checked out some beer bars and walked around trying to find the big seafood place for dinner. Didn't find the one we were looking for, but found another one on second road around Soi 11 or so it was ok. If you like seafood so much, you should check out the seafood market in Naklua during the day. You walk around and buy your fresh seafood, then you take it to one of the many stalls outside to cook up for you. Not as expensive as the restaurants in town.

Dg8787
02-26-19, 21:33
If you like seafood so much, you should check out the seafood market in Naklua during the day. You walk around and buy your fresh seafood, then you take it to one of the many stalls outside to cook up for you. Not as expensive as the restaurants in town.You do realize most foreigners do not know fish have a head and tail!

Or chicken have a head and feet.

Samkuw
02-27-19, 08:39
Frustrated with the mongering scene in India me and my friends landed in Thailand yesterday. Went to soi 6 and started negotiations. 1500 is the asking price for girl + room. Didn't need any bargaining skills to get them to agree for 1200.

The girl I chose was very friendly. She said she was 21 but my guess is 26-28. Showered together and started the deed. Just want to add that most of the girls at soi 6 were on the plump side. Anyways after the initial kissing and tit sucking asked for the BJ. She said she just had a root canal and showed it to me. My mistake that I didn't demand it during negotiations. Anyways it didn't matter because I was having a good time, the reason being I had 2 pegs of Bacardi before leaving the hotel. I could also control my ejaculation because of that. Foreplay included fingering her till I could hear her wetness. The it was WOT followed by grinding sitting face to face. Then lifted her in my arms and banged her for around 2 minutes. Finally it was missionary position to finish it off. There too surprisingly I could hold off for a long time, thanks to Bacardi. After cumming we showered and dressed and went down to the bar. She sat with me chatting on Google translate app for a long time (sadly no one understands even basic English.

My feedback-.

My friends accompanying me too had a good experience.

Though the girls at soi 6 are not drop dead gorgeous they make you happy.

Would I return to the same girl? - yes on my next trip to Pattaya.

Today I'm going to pick a FL from beach Road.

Thank you.

Banana Boi
02-27-19, 19:26
Not even sure when it opened but I only noticed it tonight. It is across from Iron. When I first walked in it seemed ok. Then with closer inspection I couldn't get out of there quickly enough. Guys who like the quality of girls from Crazy House and Windmill may like it here but not for me.

I wish Pattaya gogo bars would get rid of there so called "models". Other than Palace models are usually older and bigger girls with not so pretty faces. Just because you take off your top you should not be called a "model" with 200 baht lady drinks.

LittleBigMan
02-28-19, 02:39
Not even sure when it opened but I only noticed it tonight. It is across from Iron. When I first walked in it seemed ok. Then with closer inspection I couldn't get out of there quickly enough. Guys who like the quality of girls from Crazy House and Windmill may like it here but not for me.

I wish Pattaya gogo bars would get rid of there so called "models". Other than Palace models are usually older and bigger girls with not so pretty faces. Just because you take off your top you should not be called a "model" with 200 baht lady drinks.It opened I think 19th of Feb? I was doing a walk heading to Dollhouse and noticed it across from Iron near Soi Diamond. Another small and narrow GoGo, I agree with the Model remarks doesn't it get tiring? I enjoy nudity so I rarely complain if they are big and fat etc I give them credit to having the nerve to take it off completing with slimmer ones on stage to me it tells a lot of a person. Actually, I've had some of the best encounters with the bigger ones my thinking in general " no sex so they are horny as hell? " the majority of the time it comes true? A few months back decided to do a visit to Paradise (LK) not much but I looked up and there was this big girl, not fat but solid body big tits not sagging average face she was smiling at me pointing to her body after her set she walked by smiling again so I brought her a LD, in the end, we had a good romp being on top of her mish reminded me of my old solid mattress back home.

Drinks are expensive and so is he barfine, waitress told me 2000 baht 1500 after midnight, same owner group Chinese Mainland as Yes GoGo, the night I was there it was packed Yes had closed and move all their girls to this new club.

Mjen1970
02-28-19, 05:01
You do realize most foreigners do not know fish have a head and tail!

Or chicken have a head and feet.Take a girl with you and get her to do the ordering.

Howie
02-28-19, 06:17
Hey guys,

Looking for some hot tips for some quality boom boom time. I'll be heading out to Thailand (Pattaya / Bangkok) and then onto Vietnam (Hanoi) from this weekend. I have a one week break to explore SEA whilst on a month long business trip in HK. Any dark skinned, mixed blood Kendall Jenner types most welcome.

Read through 30 plus pages on the Pattaya thread thus far. Will do similar on Bangkok and Hanoi. Some useful nuggets of info from a handful of trip reports. I have Kink and Windmill to check out in Pattaya. Are there any clubs around Jomtien beach worth visiting?

There is so much reading to go through in a short period of time. So anyone kind enough to compile an adult Tripadvisor version of the top 5 to 10 attractions for each location with associated prices would be greatly appreciated.

Many thanks.

Howie.

Banana Boi
02-28-19, 06:46
Howie, from FKK guy to FKK guy I know you are into quality looking girls. Please don't go to the skanky nude bars like Windmill, Crazy House, upstairs at Kink and expect good looking girls. It will be by absolute luck if you find one. Guys go there, buy a beer, and finger the girls on stage. Sure it's fun for cheap thrills if looks isn't a priority.

Palace, Baccara, Panda, and Kink downstairs had decent girls last night. Try Sensations too. Free to walk in and out of all gogo bars. There is a board in every bar that show how many girls are working. Girls go hide out upstairs if the bar is empty.

Blanquiceleste
02-28-19, 07:14
Take a girl with you and get her to do the ordering.There is an old adage among the wise and experienced men in Thailand. NEVER LET A HUNGRY THAI GIRL ORDER FOOD AT A RESTAURANT.

Mr Enternational
02-28-19, 07:27
There is an old adage among the wise and experienced men in Thailand. NEVER LET A HUNGRY THAI GIRL ORDER FOOD AT A RESTAURANT.Yesterday me and my girl at ribs at Richman Poorman. (By the way they are closing in 8 days.) Later on in the evening we went to Big C to buy some snacks for our Koh Chang trip today. While we were at Big C she said that she was hungry. I am thinking how the hell is she hungry, when I am still full?

So I took her to the market and I got a cold chocolate while she walked around looking for food. She came back with 2 dishes. Half way through the first dish: Can I take this to your room? I am full. The second dish is still in the room and we are now on the boat to Koh Chang.

Christian G
02-28-19, 10:21
Alia Club, this is the seventh club in the soi. Someone tried it?

Banana Boi
02-28-19, 10:53
Alia Club, this is the seventh club in the soi. Someone tried it?I was on soi full love Inn the other day. 3 girls sitting outside alia begging me to come in. Wanted to check out alia but got distracted by prettier girls in other bars sticking their heads out the door when they saw me.

LittleBigMan
02-28-19, 12:06
Hey guys,

Looking for some hot tips for some quality boom boom time. I'll be heading out to Thailand (Pattaya / Bangkok) and then onto Vietnam (Hanoi) from this weekend. I have a one week break to explore SEA whilst on a month long business trip in HK. Any dark skinned, mixed blood Kendall Jenner types most welcome.

Read through 30 plus pages on the Pattaya thread thus far. Will do similar on Bangkok and Hanoi. Some useful nuggets of info from a handful of trip reports. I have Kink and Windmill to check out in Pattaya. Are there any clubs around Jomtien beach worth visiting?

There is so much reading to go through in a short period of time. So anyone kind enough to compile an adult Tripadvisor version of the top 5 to 10 attractions for each location with associated prices would be greatly appreciated.

Many thanks.

Howie.To each his own but personally I would skip Windmill and Kink, and make a visit at Dollhouse off Walking Street down Soi 15 after What's up! When it comes to Windmill, if you like girls in white school socks and uniforms then knock yourself out but I like to look at ladies and at Dollhouse you can get hands-on action and more and there is more room to sit.

Banana Boi
02-28-19, 16:45
To each his own but personally I would skip Windmill and Kink, and make a visit at Dollhouse off Walking Street Funny another ISG member and I walked by Dollhouse last night and he asked if that was where we were going. I said I hadn't been to Dollhouse in over a year but was willing to give it a shot. We decided to go to Kink DOWNSTAIRS. I will try out Dollhouse this week. The current line up looks ok? Been meaning to revisit another dirty club, Electric Blue, as well. You been to EB lately?

Zman429
02-28-19, 21:25
Are there any clubs around Jomtien beach worth visiting?Jomtien has a walking street you should definitely check it out.

Rob Jones
02-28-19, 22:43
There is an old adage among the wise and experienced men in Thailand. NEVER LET A HUNGRY THAI GIRL ORDER FOOD AT A RESTAURANT.I have spent about 25,000 baht alone at FRA restaurant in the last 12 months. When leaving Walking Street you have to walk past it and I do not know of any girl I am with who can walk past and every girl will usually order enough food for 3 people.

Banana Boi
03-01-19, 01:35
Fra Pattaya is actually good cheap eats. Used to go there all the time when I was still a tourist but haven't been for years. Hated sitting there with a girl I just barfined from Sensations only to have a bus load of Chinese tourists come in.

I had forgotten about Fra and was wondering why but now I realize I don't take the tourist exit out of Walking Street to get to the 2nd Road baht bus.

Blanquiceleste
03-01-19, 01:40
I have spent about 25,000 baht alone at FRA restaurant in the last 12 months. When leaving Walking Street you have to walk past it and I do not know of any girl I am with who can walk past and every girl will usually order enough food for 3 people.I would say you got away cheap. You are averaging a little more than 2000 b a month which isn't bad. Assuming you are getting out more than once a month at the very least. 5555.

The most I have spent at a restaurant on a Thai girl was in Bangkok several years ago at El Gaucho. I was no rookie that time but I had this stunning mixed race Univ student who wanted to go there. How could I say no? 5555.

I think just the capirinhas cost me as much as what I would spend on food in a week in Thailand.

Would I do that again? Ummmmm.

Rob Jones
03-01-19, 03:03
I would say you got away cheap. You are averaging a little more than 2000 b a month which isn't bad. Assuming you are getting out more than once a month at the very least. 5555.

The most I have spent at a restaurant on a Thai girl was in Bangkok several years ago at El Gaucho. I was no rookie that time but I had this stunning mixed race Univ student who wanted to go there. How could I say no? 5555.

I think just the capirinhas cost me as much as what I would spend on food in a week in Thailand.

Would I do that again? Ummmmm.Hi Blanq.

That is only over 18 days in the last 12 months LOL. I am looking for a new route from Walking Street to Second Road bypassing South Road. LOL.

Samkuw
03-01-19, 04:07
Picked up a pretty Thai from Beach Road. A little short and stout but had a friendly nature which made her attractive. Asked for 1000 but agreed for 800. It was a GFE. Good BJ and very small pussy; tight and shallow (It amazes me how the Thais accommodate the non-Asians) Showered before and after. She was in no hurry so we talked after showering. She went on how a senior indian man was providing for her and how she was going to stop this work by April.

Long story short, had a good time.

Would give a 7 for sex. 8 for sincerity and attitude. 6 for body, that's just if we compare to international standards.

In short it was good.

Banana Boi
03-01-19, 06:17
That is only over 18 days in the last 12 months LOL. I am looking for a new route from Walking Street to Second Road bypassing South Road. LOL.How do you spend 25,000 baht on a budget Thai food restaurant in 18 days? You could rotate Thai girls' favorites Shabushi and MK every day and still not spend that much.



The most I have spent at a restaurant on a Thai girl was in Bangkok several years ago at El Gaucho. I was no rookie that time but I had this stunning mixed race Univ student who wanted to go there. How could I say no? 5555..You're much more extravagant than myself. My buddy who you met in your hometown and I have been wanting to go to El Gaucho but over 4000 baht for a filet mignon plus appetizers and drinks just seems too expensive for a steak made in Thailand. Was it worth the money for the food and what you received from your student?

Kumbu
03-01-19, 07:58
Picked up a pretty Thai from Beach Road. A little short and stout but had a friendly nature which made her attractive. Asked for 1000 but agreed for 800. It was a GFE. Good BJ and very small pussy; tight and shallow (It amazes me how the Thais accommodate the non-Asians) Showered before and after. She was in no hurry so we talked after showering. She went on how a senior indian man was providing for her and how she was going to stop this work by April.

Long story short, had a good time.

Would give a 7 for sex. 8 for sincerity and attitude. 6 for body, that's just if we compare to international standards.

In short it was good.Nice report, Samkuw. Thanks for taking the time to submit it.

LittleBigMan
03-01-19, 08:52
Funny another ISG member and I walked by Dollhouse last night and he asked if that was where we were going. I said I hadn't been to Dollhouse in over a year but was willing to give it a shot. We decided to go to Kink DOWNSTAIRS. I will try out Dollhouse this week. The current line up looks ok? Been meaning to revisit another dirty club, Electric Blue, as well. You been to EB lately?Making rounds year round I finally got to Soi 15, that was around June of last year, hit Sensation, EB, BD, then Dollhouse counting Sensation out since it is a different club I found Dollhouse to be the best. I learned from another friend many of the girls that were working G-spot which closed ended up at Dollhouse sister club.

Dollhouse has a upstairs like Kink, called the XXX club, but I enjoy downstairs a larger venue that Windmill but pretty much has the same stuff on popular nights, tub, and a table on one side with lesbian show, I've found the line up to be better than the others clubs mentioned and pretty hands on.

Two weeks ago I was visiting normally after a large dinner like to get one or two Sangsome over the rocks DH, has a 2-1 special 135 baht which as soon as I get combined into one drink so that is a lot of rum with two ice clubs they don't bother me after that which give me time to see the Lineup. That evening got my favorite seat upper deck right side as you walk in, soon after a old guy might have been younger but he looked as if he hadn't taken a shower in days, long all white pony tail carrying a bag as if he just came from shopping get some entertainment before heading home. He walked up and sat a bit to my right the section was empty as I continue to watch the stage there was this tiny girl all natural small tits full naked so comes off the stage and goes up and seat next to him I thought nothing of it. Around 10 minutes later I happened to turn to my right I now see the guy on his knees and the girl is on her back legs up in the air spread and he is just going downtown on her. I was cracking up so was the gay waiter who was standing nearby the old guy was going downtown on that pussy.

Thereafter, the girl has to take a break and go back to the stage to do her rotation minutes later she comes down goes back up gives the guy a grinding lap dance and thereafter the old guy back on his knees going back to work. Not sure what he tip her but when he was done paid his bin walkaround with his bag and headed out the backdoor.

Blanquiceleste
03-01-19, 18:20
You're much more extravagant than myself. My buddy who you met in your hometown and I have been wanting to go to El Gaucho but over 4000 baht for a filet mignon plus appetizers and drinks just seems too expensive for a steak made in Thailand. Was it worth the money for the food and what you received from your student?The beauty is back then the restaurant was very new and they boasted about pampa grass fed Argentinian steak. It was worth every morsel. So were the chorizo sausages. Drinks were top notch.

And my hot Univ student Aew. Jeez I get a hard on just thinking about her and the time I spent with her.

PassinThrough
03-01-19, 23:59
The beauty is back then the restaurant was very new and they boasted about pampa grass fed Argentinian steak. It was worth every morsel. So were the chorizo sausages. Drinks were top notch.

And my hot Univ student Aew. Jeez I get a hard on just thinking about her and the time I spent with her.This discussion probably belongs in the Bangkok board. I will have to give El Gaucho a try, I have been a fan of El Toro at Soi 29 and Sukhomvit. They have great meat and sausage.

PIT.

Danubius
03-02-19, 03:20
Jomtien has a walking street you should definitely check it out.And where skould that be? If you mean the "walking street" around the Jomtien Complex, that is an entirely gay area.

Blanquiceleste
03-02-19, 07:50
Hi Blanq.

That is only over 18 days in the last 12 months LOL. I am looking for a new route from Walking Street to Second Road bypassing South Road. LOL.Jesus. You win man. How on earth can anyone spend that much money at a place like Fra?

As for exits from WS, you can take Soi Diamond, or Soi 14, or Soi 15. Or even that little road where Palace is located. All of them lead to 2nd road and you can easily find a motorbike taxi or a songthaew. There is one street where one has to endure senseless loud, blaring, incoherent Arab muisc, but I forget which one.

Mr Enternational
03-02-19, 08:13
There is one street where one has to endure senseless loud, blaring, incoherent Arab muisc, but I forget which one.That'd be Soi 16!

LittleBigMan
03-02-19, 08:15
Jesus. You win man. How on earth can anyone spend that much money at a place like Fra?

As for exits from WS, you can take Soi Diamond, or Soi 14, or Soi 15. Or even that little road where Palace is located. All of them lead to 2nd road and you can easily find a motorbike taxi or a songthaew. There is one street where one has to endure senseless loud, blaring, incoherent Arab muisc, but I forget which one.That I think is Soi 16, you can get to it from 2nd road where the Marina Hotel is located, one side leads to the Marina Seafood there is a walkway there that lead into W. S. As you come out Peppermint Go Go is right there along with Marina Disco under that is the boxing ring. Opposite of the Marina Hotel left is what I nickname Muslim road loud music all night long and I mean loud follow that road it leads you to 16, at the end is now the big Indian venue called RAZZ nightclub.

The small little Soi next to Palace, usually a small police table there with a bunch of Freelancer I nickname that Soi P72 after the hotel and outdoor restaurant.

Banana Boi
03-02-19, 12:35
I vote for Rob to take Soi 16 off Walking Street. Marine Seafood imo is better than Fra for food quality and you get to see all the girls walking in if you go around midnight. Last time I was there with another ISG member and he ran after a girl he saw walking by. He got her info and met her up at iBar or wherever she was working after we finished eating.

Soi 16 is named Soi Arab.

Rob Jones
03-03-19, 22:30
I vote for Rob to take Soi 16 off Walking Street. Marine Seafood imo is better than Fra for food quality and you get to see all the girls walking in if you go around midnight. Last time I was there with another ISG member and he ran after a girl he saw walking by. He got her info and met her up at iBar or wherever she was working after we finished eating.

Soi 16 is named Soi Arab.Thanks for the tip. They are like moths to a flame when you go anywhere near a restaurant. On my last night in February I got a bit cranky with it and took the girl to 7-11 instead and she got some micro waved food and still she only ate about 1/3 third of it! Do you think their eyes are bigger then their bellies or it's not their baht so they do not care about the waste?

Rob Jones
03-03-19, 22:33
Jesus. You win man. How on earth can anyone spend that much money at a place like Fra?

As for exits from WS, you can take Soi Diamond, or Soi 14, or Soi 15. Or even that little road where Palace is located. All of them lead to 2nd road and you can easily find a motorbike taxi or a songthaew. There is one street where one has to endure senseless loud, blaring, incoherent Arab muisc, but I forget which one.You know the cost are drunken assessments LOL. But seriously thanks for the detours as the cost of the meal does not really worry me but I just want to get back to the room and bang them.

Banana Boi
03-04-19, 01:01
Do you think their eyes are bigger then their bellies or it's not their baht so they do not care about the waste?Their eyes are bigger. I don't pay my girlfriend anything. It's all her money. She says she's going out to buy somtan and she comes back with 3 bags of different foods. She eats a little of each bag and says she will save it for tomorrow. The next day comes and she's out buying all the same food again without even considering eating her leftovers since it sours overnight.

Mr Enternational
03-04-19, 04:38
The next day comes and she's out buying all the same food again without even considering eating her leftovers since it sours overnight.Funny. My girl said that Thai people could still eat it after it has been sitting up for 1 week. She would not let me throw it out. Now she has gone back to KK and this bullshit is still sitting in my refrigerator.

Dg8787
03-05-19, 00:13
Their eyes are bigger. I don't pay my girlfriend anything. It's all her money. She says she's going out to buy somtan and she comes back with 3 bags of different foods. She eats a little of each bag and says she will save it for tomorrow. The next day comes and she's out buying all the same food again without even considering eating her leftovers since it sours overnight.Pretty common with all people. I end up throwing out over have half of my food in the refrig. Most of my leftovers from eating out get tossed out after a few days. I don't know why I bother to bring it back!

LaosMan
03-05-19, 06:28
Their eyes are bigger. I don't pay my girlfriend anything. It's all her money. She says she's going out to buy somtan and she comes back with 3 bags of different foods. She eats a little of each bag and says she will save it for tomorrow. The next day comes and she's out buying all the same food again without even considering eating her leftovers since it sours overnight.It is not a question of the "eyes being bigger". Thai and Lao like to have a number of different dishes when they eat; 3 or 4 dishes are not uncommon. If you don't eat with her, there will always be food left over.

Allover
03-05-19, 07:38
For the most part refrigerated food should only be kept for 72 hours. Any longer than that throw it away or risk getting sick.

LittleBigMan
03-05-19, 08:21
A great majority of you might not believe this but many don't even own a refrigerator. Many Thais on a daily basis to keep something cool for a period just buy a bag of Ice and put this in a small foam cooler for 24 hours. Although not a conclusion I have twelve renters only one of them have a small refrigerator too expensive to run for the majority.

Franciscass
03-05-19, 12:20
I have twelve renters only one of them have a small refrigerator too expensive to run for the majority.Wouldn't normally be so curious but are you saying you rent out rooms to some 12 people and you don't provide a refrigerator. Apologizes if I misunderstood.

Samkuw
03-05-19, 12:30
Picked up a pretty Madagascar chick on my way to Beach Road. Asking price was 1500 but agreed for 1000. Took her to my hotel in a took took taxi. She smelled very good and when I asked she said it was coco channel, I don't know. Showered together and started blowing during it. Dried up and went to bed. Again started BBBJ without persuasion. Then it was WOT followed by doggy and missionary. OK in English but kept saying french during sex. Said she was on visit for 30 days.

Feedback. Very good BJ and sex. Good body and personality.

It was really a GFE.

Taurus71
03-05-19, 22:18
Picked up a pretty Madagascar chick on my way to Beach Road. Asking price was 1500 but agreed for 1000. Hi mate,

Good negotiation skills. Did you see many Africans in Pattaya? Heard they are been chased away. I was in Patts a couple of years ago and saw very few and at that time it was said there were many around. Thanks for a good report.

Franga
03-06-19, 05:04
Did you see many Africans in Pattaya?I have not seen any for many months now. Never on Beach Rd anymore. But someone told me there are lots on Tinder.

Samkuw
03-06-19, 08:12
Hi mate,

Good negotiation skills. Did you see many Africans in Pattaya? Heard they are been chased away. I was in Patts a couple of years ago and saw very few and at that time it was said there were many around. Thanks for a good report.
Hi mate,

Good negotiation skills. Did you see many Africans in Pattaya? Heard they are been chased away. I was in Patts a couple of years ago and saw very few and at that time it was said there were many around. Thanks for a good report.Hi bro,

I too heard there are some Africans there but spotted only 3, including the one I picked. One from the other two was with an Arab guy. She had all the features of Africans but skin was very fair. Must be mixed ethnicity. The last one was a friend of the chick I picked up. I thought she was a dark skinned Thai till I was corrected by my chick.

LittleBigMan
03-06-19, 11:12
Wouldn't normally be so curious but are you saying you rent out rooms to some 12 people and you don't provide a refrigerator. Apologizes if I misunderstood.That is exactly what I'm saying! It might be a surprise to you and others but there are two types of rooms being rented, furnished and unfinished in general the poor Thais popular is just a big studio room in the rear area for cooking and a bathroom. The place is bare bones four walls if you are lucky the floor are tiled and have a sit down toilet, no shower head or hot water they bring their garbage bucket and scoop.

If I were to provide a refrigerator they would use it for a closet the electricity is too expensive for a Thai the reason why provide an A / see, recently one of my rooms rented to a old Thai couple the Thai husband was bedridden my rooms provide cable T. V. Because we don't want a bunch of antennas attached to the outside or roof cost is 200 baht a month the old man loved it but the wife say too much, next month she moved into a dump just because of the 200 baht.

Whenever a tenant moves out or sneaks out the middle of the night I have run through the units and fix everything again. The biggest problem to save on the electricity they remove the light bulbs and go bare minimum I refilled all my units with LED and they still remove them the problem they don't leave them behind because of the expense of the electricity. So I split the lighting system in half and fitted them with dimmers.

Franciscass
03-06-19, 12:24
That is exactly what I'm saying! It might be a surprise to you and others but there are two types of rooms being rented, furnished and unfinished in general the poor Thais popular is just a big studio room in the rear area for cooking and a bathroom. The place is bare bones four walls if you are lucky the floor are tiled and have a sit down toilet, no shower head or hot water they bring their garbage bucket and scoop.

If I were to provide a refrigerator they would use it for a closet the electricity is too expensive for a Thai the reason why provide an A / see, recently one of my rooms rented to a old Thai couple the Thai husband was bedridden my rooms provide cable T. V. Because we don't want a bunch of antennas attached to the outside or roof cost is 200 baht a month the old man loved it but the wife say too much, next month she moved into a dump just because of the 200 baht.

Whenever a tenant moves out or sneaks out the middle of the night I have run through the units and fix everything again. The biggest problem to save on the electricity they remove the light bulbs and go bare minimum I refilled all my units with LED and they still remove them the problem they don't leave them behind because of the expense of the electricity. So I split the lighting system in half and fitted them with dimmers.Not sure I get all you were saying LBM but thanks for trying. I guess however so humble a roof over your head is better than living rough on the streets.

XXL
03-06-19, 12:41
I have not seen any for many months now. Never on Beach Rd anymore. But someone told me there are lots on Tinder.Only 2 or 3 left on Tinder. The cleansing has been swift and efficient.

StLouisMo2010
03-06-19, 16:56
I ran across an "outcall massage" service on the internet offering oil massage 600 bt / 60 min, 900 bt / 90 min, 1100 bt / 120 min by attractive young spinners, as per the pictures which they sent along. Anyone have experience / comment and anyone know of the expected fees for extras for such outfits?

I enjoy an outcall to my hotel in the morning and thought this may be a valid process if not a 'bait and switch'. Look forward to feedback, cheers.

Turgid
03-07-19, 17:41
I ran across an "outcall massage" service on the internet offering oil massage 600 bt / 60 min, 900 bt / 90 min, 1100 bt / 120 min by attractive young spinners, as per the pictures which they sent along. Anyone have experience / comment and anyone know of the expected fees for extras for such outfits?

I enjoy an outcall to my hotel in the morning and thought this may be a valid process if not a 'bait and switch'. Look forward to feedback, cheers.I would really like to partake in this service when I visit Thailand next year so I am eagerly awaiting a report of your experience.

Mr Enternational
03-07-19, 18:54
I ran across an "outcall massage" service on the internet offering oil massage 600 bt / 60 min, 900 bt / 90 min, 1100 bt / 120 min by attractive young spinners, as per the pictures which they sent along. Anyone have experience / comment and anyone know of the expected fees for extras for such outfits?I give 500 for the massage and 500 for fucking. No discussion unless they bring it up.

Banana Boi
03-07-19, 20:02
Happy agogo. Big sign outside Happy that the expansion will be completed March 15. If the expansion is the entire Beach Club space Happy may become the largest gogo bar on Walking Street. Happy was packed tonight as expected with all the Beach Club girls there. Girl to guy ratio was about 5:1. #19 is very pretty.

Syzygies
03-08-19, 17:23
Happy agogo. Big sign outside Happy that the expansion will be completed March 15. If the expansion is the entire Beach Club space Happy may become the largest gogo bar on Walking Street. Happy was packed tonight as expected with all the Beach Club girls there. Girl to guy ratio was about 5:1. #19 is very pretty.Is it just me but I don't like a gogo bar to be too big? I like to be able to see all the girls dancing if possible, and of course that is not possible, but the closer to it the better. Maybe my attitude doesn't make sense because more girls is more choice, but I used to be frustrated at Bacarrat that when seated I could see so few of the girls properly due to stage over crowding. I was probably frustrated too in Thermae when found it hard to get one of the best 3 girls in the place. Bigger does not seem to be better. Rotating stage sections can be a help for me. Would customers like to move around in a big gogo like they do in Thermae? Ha ha. I have certainly changed seat before but not too frequently. Is a really big gogo bar better, or two smaller ones better? Might depend on style and atmosphere I suppose. Are customers attracted to very full bars, or bars with more space available. I can recall thinking bars with lots of empty seats were a bit dead. Yet I did not go for an overly full bar either, especially if guys are standing in front of you or even right next to you, always wondering when going to cop a spilled drink.

LittleBigMan
03-09-19, 02:32
Is it just me but I don't like a gogo bar to be too big? I like to be able to see all the girls dancing if possible, and of course that is not possible, but the closer to it the better. Maybe my attitude doesn't make sense because more girls is more choice, but I used to be frustrated at Bacarrat that when seated I could see so few of the girls properly due to stage over crowding. I was probably frustrated too in Thermae when found it hard to get one of the best 3 girls in the place. Bigger does not seem to be better. Rotating stage sections can be a help for me. Would customers like to move around in a big gogo like they do in Thermae? Ha ha. I have certainly changed seat before but not too frequently. Is a really big gogo bar better, or two smaller ones better? Might depend on style and atmosphere I suppose. Are customers attracted to very full bars, or bars with more space available. I can recall thinking bars with lots of empty seats were a bit dead. Yet I did not go for an overly full bar either, especially if guys are standing in front of you or even right next to you, always wondering when going to cop a spilled drink.I don't think even with the expansion it is possible for Happy to be one big Go Go, that is impossible due to the location. When they are finished with the renovation and adding Beach Club next door to the mix it will feel separate from the main original stage. The whole setup will be like a square off horseshoe. As you walk down the outdoor path to Happy, Beach is on the right, as you get closer to Happy entrance to the left is the second stage but you need to enter through the main entrance then turn left / left to seat yourself at this stage. Everyone like to sit around the middle and main stage the current side stage is just an afterthought when they finish the renovation and attach Beach which is on the right it will be the same as the left side separate due to the foundation of the pillars of the building. Can't see it any other way there will be three stages and if the girls don't rotate fast enough you would be picking up your drink bin cup and looking for a new location?

Axiata
03-09-19, 03:59
Well the tour is at an end. Over the 5 days my wingman and I had our share of fun. Most daytime action was on soi 6. The bars around Lust on Soi were the pick and we did manage to find some good performers. Overall quality on soi 6 was ok IMHO. We did try Kinnaree once but found the girls to be too pushy and average. Performance a little mechanical too.

The nighttime action we tended to concentrate around LK metro and then ended up on WS. Pick of LK Metro gogos was Kink. Good looking girls and a lot of them. WS I thought that Sapphire still is still the pick. I had two girls from that bar and both were great performers. One a real GFE while the other was not quite a GFE but was very accommodating. Lots of BBBJ and DATY action.

Pattaya is still heaven for the monger. A lot of girls and if you have the time you will find what you are looking for. We certainly did. Thanks again to Banana Boi for introducing us to Kink.

Happy Hunting.

Franga
03-09-19, 10:15
Yesterday I banged a Soi Chaiyapoon semi-regular. 1000 baht all inclusive.

I noticed that she had a new small tattoo. She said it cost her 700 baht. Then without any prompting from me she said that for a Farang that tattoo would have cost 2000 baht.

So, tattoos cost 3 times more for foreigners than Thais. Interesting. Looks like Thai cartel pricing is also present in the tattoo industry, not just the sex industry.

Floralys
03-09-19, 10:59
Yesterday I banged a Soi Chaiyapoon semi-regular. 1000 baht all inclusive.

I noticed that she had a new small tattoo. She said it cost her 700 baht. Then without any prompting from me she said that for a Farang that tattoo would have cost 2000 baht.

So, tattoos cost 3 times more for foreigners than Thais. Interesting. Looks like Thai cartel pricing is also present in the tattoo industry, not just the sex industry.What's her name, name of the bar and was she any good?

Mr Enternational
03-09-19, 11:02
Yesterday I banged a Soi Chaiyapoon semi-regular. 1000 baht all inclusive.

I noticed that she had a new small tattoo. She said it cost her 700 baht. Then without any prompting from me she said that for a Farang that tattoo would have cost 2000 baht.

So, tattoos cost 3 times more for foreigners than Thais. Interesting. Looks like Thai cartel pricing is also present in the tattoo industry, not just the sex industry.The reason for that is that farang do not like to bargain. For them first price is final price. How many times have I said to work out a price on Soi 6 OR like you said 1000 all in for your chick (massage or Chaiyapoon), where other guys are paying 1000 plus the massage or 1000 plus the room. I just left Mike's shopping where I bought a Buriram and Thailand football shirt. Dude started at 400 baht each. I told him 200 baht. We settled at 250 each.

Also, I had a chick over last night that has a partially done big tattoo on the upper right side of her back. She said it cost 6000 baht, prepay. She has to go back and get it finished. This is the same chick I know that used to come from Bangkok some weekends to work on Beach Road. She used to always talk shit because I would only pay her 1000 baht LT (but she would always accept it). That was a couple of years ago. She has since moved to Pattaya and gotten a good job. This morning when I took her home I had the same 1000 baht ready for her. But before I gave it to her I asked if I need to give her money. (She was acting more of a normal girlfriend than before.) She said no. Then she said give me 100 baht. I gave her 100 baht.

We were also talking about how it is monkey see monkey do around here. She said that her tattoo place said they are not making any money now. A few years ago things were good, but now everybody and their mom has opened a tattoo shop. Barber shops and coffee stands have also sprung up. Nobody can make any money around here for all the copycats.

GeneralM
03-09-19, 20:08
Had a great time.

Spent nights split up between GoGos near Walking Street, Soapies near Soi 2, Soi 6 bars and the Freelancers on Beach Road. Spent days at lo key bars on 2nd St and by the pool.

Gogos, Windmill and Dollhouse were the best. Tried a Russian one, Eden? Windmill and Dollhouse were great, the Russian place a dud with overpriced drinks.

Soapies, 3 times, didn't spend more than 2800 baht total, had great girls.

Freelancers: spent 1000 to 1200 baht, had great girls the one with 1200ST was worth it and she went the extra 20% for me (I appreciate the extra attention).

Soi 6: spent 1000 to 1500 baht. Went twice both at night, bit overwhelmed and didn't spend enough time choosing the right girls. I think if I would have taken my time, it would have been better.

My buddy liked the bar girls the best (he found one lady for 500 baht after she got off work, OK looking but I rather spend more for a looker), I liked the Soapies best, with best value the freelancers.

Next time, longer trip like a month. This trip was just 7 days, so I wanted to explore. What do LT people do? Do you keep a lady just for one night or multiple nights? I think if I found a freelancer I liked, I think 1700-2000 baht a day for say 3 to 7 days would be nice. I did get the LINE of a freelancer that I liked, what is a fair number to offer for a week? (its the one I paid ST 1200 baht for) BTW- She has texted me often, so I know she is interested but her normal rate 2500 baht a day for a week seems a lot especially since I am picking up meals and whatever.

Dive Monger
03-10-19, 05:01
I don't recall any other gogo bar in Pattaya charging different rates for lady drinks other than coyotes are usually 50 baht less than "models" who are topless or nude. You mentioned you were upstairs so weren't all those "Models"?

I've also never heard a gogo bar in Pattaya charging 250 baht for a lady drink, especially not in budget conscious LK Metro. You should try some of the other high mileage gogo bars in Pattaya for prettier skanky girls because I was at Kink downstairs twice this week and it scared me when they lowered the stage and I had to even look at the "models" from upstairs.

You mentioned you were with a very experienced monger. Why didn't he tell you that you were being hustled having to buy drinks for girls every 10 minutes and that you needed to tip them 100 baht to touch them. Neither is true. I have NEVER had to tip a girl extra to feel them up. 3 to 4 drinks maximum per hour is the right pace to keep a girl there all night.

Marine Seafood is ok and inexpensive. Located on one of the side sois off Walking Street near Peppermint gogo. http://www.bangkok.com/pattaya/pattaya-top10s/top10-seafood-restaurants.htm

Not criticizing you I'm appreciative of some actual gogo bar reviews. Just trying to help you save some cash.BB, we mainly wanted to expose the newbie to it; I only bought one LD and one beer for myself. As you rightly point out, most of the 'models' are pretty skanky. LOL. Same kind of hustle at Windmill off Walking Street BTW, went there a few days later. Again, just to check it out and show the newbie around. I stopped posting as got too busy with pool, massage, and juggling a daytime GF and an overnight GF. Tough life being a monger. Could be I got confused as to the LD prices, not sure. Back home now, I need to catch up on the posts for the rest of the week I was there. Had a blast, as usual.

Dive Monger
03-10-19, 05:04
If you like seafood so much, you should check out the seafood market in Naklua during the day. You walk around and buy your fresh seafood, then you take it to one of the many stalls outside to cook up for you. Not as expensive as the restaurants in town.Mr. E,

That was the place we were looking for that I remember from a trip a few years ago. Couldn't recall on this trip, wish I had. Ah well, next time in a few months for sure.

Franga
03-10-19, 05:57
I know she is interested but her normal rate 2500 baht a day for a week seems a lot especially since I am picking up meals and whatever.Not really expensive if she is one of the hotter freelancers. You have to think of it from her point of view and how many 1200 baht short times she will be losing if going with you LT for 2500 baht. If she can get 3ST's then she is showing a loss.

It seems to me that most freelancers will go for 2000 baht per day. And skankier older ones may even go for 1000 baht.

Goferring
03-10-19, 06:40
Next time, longer trip like a month. This trip was just 7 days, so I wanted to explore. What do LT people do? Do you keep a lady just for one night or multiple nights? I think if I found a freelancer I liked, I think 1700-2000 baht a day for say 3 to 7 days would be nice. I did get the LINE of a freelancer that I liked, what is a fair number to offer for a week? (its the one I paid ST 1200 baht for) BTW- She has texted me often, so I know she is interested but her normal rate 2500 baht a day for a week seems a lot especially since I am picking up meals and whatever.I break LLT into two categories depending on the freedom I want: if I just happen to keep the girl for day after day, unsure how many days I will keep her, I just pay her daily rate repeatedly; if I know I'm going to keep her X days then pre negotiate a reduced rate for that time period.

For a week, that reduced rate would typically be roughly her ST rate times 7. Obviously other factors need to be taken into consideration: a busy girl is unlikely to agree to just one ST payment per day; going on a holiday or somewhere attractive to her sweetens the deal. I never consider paying for her food, 5 star accommodation etc a factor in her payment. Her family can't eat air conditioning or nice sheets. 😉.

Enjoy. G.

Mr Enternational
03-10-19, 08:46
You have to think of it from her point of view and how many 1200 baht short times she will be losing if going with you LT for 2500 baht. If she can get 3ST's then she is showing a loss.You are looking at it from a purely "possible income" point of view which is not the best way to look at it. You assume she is going to get 3 ST, which may not be the case. (And remember there are way more chicks around this place than active mongers.)

To obtain 3 ST she has to spend time looking for and obtaining customers, which is work. When she finds them she will have to go from place to place fucking 3 times per day. The LT guy is probably not going to fuck her 3 times per day and she already has her bird in the hand as opposed to 3 in the bush.

So put it like this, would you rather go to work and pay for your own daily expenses with the chances of making 3600 baht per day, or be on an all expenses paid vacation while getting paid a sure 2500 baht per day? With the 3600 she could possibly have 1100 baht in expenditures which is going to net her 2500 anyway!

Dive Monger
03-11-19, 16:02
Sorry for the delay, but now that I am back home and working my butt off to be able to afford to head there again, I have little time to do these reports. I will catch up bit by bit.

After we spent an hour or so in Kink playing and watching and drinking and fending off the lady drink hustle, we headed out to check out the beer bars in the area. Did a fair bit of cruising around, most of the talent was less alluring than the minimum needed to begin negotiations for company for the night. Went into dozens of places, didn't drink much, mostly did a quick survey and headed back out. Had a Guinness at Witherspoons where a great band was playing, and also went down to Toy Bar off 2nd Road where a pretty good Philippine band was also playing. Not really wanting to head back to the hotel alone, I decided to make another pass through LK even though it was now quite late and the place was emptying out. My wingman had found company and was just being a good buddy watching me unsuccessfully search, LOL. A spinner bolted out of a dim bar not far from Devil's Den and grabbed my arm and wouldn't let go, LOL. She was older than my preference, but the figure was superb and attitude seemed excellent (or maybe the rent was due and she was desperate for a customer, who knows). Had a drink and on the spur of the moment I decided WTF and pulled the trigger. It was Lucky Friend You bar, mostly older ladies there. But fun anyway. 300 bt to the bar, and she agreed 1 K all night. Headed back to the hotel.

What a good choice I ended up having made! Totally attentive, sweet, rockin' body, and it must've been quite some time since she got adequate action, because she became a tigress in the sack. Had a great session and passed out about 2:30 AM. Then was awakened by the cutie working my parts at about 4 and we had another great session Passed out again as I was really spent, and I'll be damned. Wouldn't you know it, at around 9 AM woke up to more tinkering of my parts. A man has to do what a man has to do, so I buckled down and had yet another great session, followed by a swoon into unconsciousness. And. Drum roll. At around noon AGAIN I was woken up by a needy babe next to me and had a FOURTH session. Holy shit, I am in my mid-60's and this hasn't happened to me in a dog's age. After finishing at nearly 1 PM, my phone rings and its my wingman asking if I am alive or not. Told him I just finished a fourth session and might be in need of food and some kind of recuperation, LOL. We all went out to breakfast after cleaning up (love having breakfast at 2 PM!) and sent her on her way with a 300 bt tip. What a night. Headed back to the hotel pool where I attempted not to drown from the physical exhaustion of the night's exercises.

All in all, would repeat. In fact, I DID repeat. Stay tuned.

Bdonkadonk
03-11-19, 19:35
Are there any clubs around Jomtien beach worth visiting?


Jomtien has a walking street you should definitely check it out.


And where should that be? If you mean the "walking street" around the Jomtien Complex, that is an entirely gay area.There is actually a "Walking Street" in Jomtien and there are even signs at both entrances showing the name Jomtien Walking Street. However, just like stated above, that area is entirely for gay people and there are only gay bars there. The best suggestion for the OP is to check out Soi 7 and that is a rather long street with girle bars. Soi Whitehouse is a good street to check out too, and it is next to Soi 7.

NguyetLang
03-12-19, 15:32
There is actually a "Walking Street" in Jomtien and there are even signs at both entrances showing the name Jomtien Walking Street. However, just like stated above, that area is entirely for gay people and there are only gay bars there. The best suggestion for the OP is to check out Soi 7 and that is a rather long street with girle bars. Soi Whitehouse is a good street to check out too, and it is next to Soi 7.I saw several places on WS with sign says "Russian Girls" and there are several good looking ones hanging near the entrance. They definitely looking like Russians. Are these girls bar-fine-able? Anyone with experience in these places? Thanks in advance for your input.

Cheers,

Bdonkadonk
03-12-19, 16:21
I saw several places on WS with sign says "Russian Girls" and there are several good looking ones hanging near the entrance. They definitely looking like Russians. Are these girls bar-fine-able? Anyone with experience in these places? Thanks in advance for your input.

Cheers,You must mean Walking Street in Pattaya and not Walking Street in Jomtien. I live in Jomtien and usually never visit Jomtien Walking Street because it is all gay there. Yesterday I made an exception and went there just to take some photos, that I uploaded in my previous post, and I didn't see any girls at all there, only gay guys.

I know the Russian clubs that you are thinking of, that is in Pattaya Walking Street and they are not good. Sure, some of the Russian girls are good looking but you better avoid them. The Russian girls in Pattaya are known to be rip off girls so not worth it to bother at all about them.

Mr Enternational
03-12-19, 16:44
The Russian girls in Pattaya are known to be rip off girls so not worth it to bother at all about them.Unless you get them from Tinder.

NguyetLang
03-12-19, 17:48
You must mean Walking Street in Pattaya and not Walking Street in Jomtien. I live in Jomtien and usually never visit Jomtien Walking Street because it is all gay there. Yesterday I made an exception and went there just to take some photos, that I uploaded in my previous post, and I didn't see any girls at all there, only gay guys.

I know the Russian clubs that you are thinking of, that is in Pattaya Walking Street and they are not good. Sure, some of the Russian girls are good looking but you better avoid them. The Russian girls in Pattaya are known to be rip off girls so not worth it to bother at all about them.Yes, I meant WS in Pattaya. And thank you for the inputs.

Bdonkadonk
03-12-19, 18:49
Unless you get them from Tinder.Thanks for the information, I didn't know that. It's good to know!

Banana Boi
03-13-19, 00:01
There are 2 bars with girls near Jomtien Walking Street. Kit Kat Lounge Club which is pretty much right there and Passion G Club which is about a 5 minute walk. Passion is more hands on and more girls. Both bars very inconsistent talent wise.

GeneralM
03-13-19, 18:22
You must mean Walking Street in Pattaya and not Walking Street in Jomtien. I live in Jomtien and usually never visit Jomtien Walking Street because it is all gay there. Yesterday I made an exception and went there just to take some photos, that I uploaded in my previous post, and I didn't see any girls at all there, only gay guys.

I know the Russian clubs that you are thinking of, that is in Pattaya Walking Street and they are not good. Sure, some of the Russian girls are good looking but you better avoid them. The Russian girls in Pattaya are known to be rip off girls so not worth it to bother at all about them.I tried one Russian club out, Eden Club along WS. An attractive girl (8 plus) outside talks you into going in, then she hands you off to a girl or two that are waiting inside. Of the two, I thought one was attractive though older (7) and the other not so attractive (5 tops). Drinks are expensive, and there isn't really any energy in the place. The on stage girl dancing was flat out not attractive at all. Mine was a very short visit. Later I heard those ask very high prices, like 6000 baht plus. If true, not worth it if they are legit, a disaster if they are just rip off girls. In Phuket I heard a horror story about a Swedish guy that was ripped off by one.

In addition: Thank you to those that answered my question about taking a freelancer for a week or so. So far, she has texted me almost everyday with stickers or photos and as of yet has not asked me for money. So she either likes me, will ask for money sometime, or wants to keep in touch until my next visit which I told her might not be for months.

Bdonkadonk
03-14-19, 07:21
I tried one Russian club out, Eden Club along WS. An attractive girl (8 plus) outside talks you into going in, then she hands you off to a girl or two that are waiting inside. Of the two, I thought one was attractive though older (7) and the other not so attractive (5 tops). Drinks are expensive, and there isn't really any energy in the place. The on stage girl dancing was flat out not attractive at all. Mine was a very short visit. Later I heard those ask very high prices, like 6000 baht plus. If true, not worth it if they are legit, a disaster if they are just rip off girls. In Phuket I heard a horror story about a Swedish guy that was ripped off by one.Thanks for sharing your information about the Russian club that you visited. 6000 Baht and even more is too much and especially if you might get a bad servcice for what you are paying. I was once myselt in one of those Russian clubs in WS and I got in there because I saw a busty young lady standing outside so I got curious about her. I watched her on stage and she didn't even take off her top while doing her dance routine. I asked her about prices and she said that a private show would be 3000 Baht and a private show where she will take off her clothes would be 5000 Baht. In the 5000 Baht show I would be allowed to touch her boobs but she would not give me a handjob, I would have to do that myself. That sounded just rip off expensive and boring to me so I left the club and decided to never again bother about any of those Russian clubs. I mean, for me to jerk off myself I could just as well watch some porn and save that 5000 Baht.

Mr Enternational
03-14-19, 07:32
I tried one Russian club out, Eden Club along WS. An attractive girl (8 plus) outside talks you into going in, then she hands you off to a girl or two that are waiting inside. Of the two, I thought one was attractive though older (7) and the other not so attractive (5 tops).I think the whole idea behind the thing is the white skin, not the age or attractiveness of them.

Member #4698
03-14-19, 12:56
I think the whole idea behind the thing is the white skin, not the age or attractiveness of them.This might be true for inexperienced Asian guys that have never had a white girl, but I don't think it holds water for Farangs accustomed to shagging white girls or knowledgeable, well travelled NE Asians that have shagged their fair share of white girls. Personally, I have never seen a "Russian" pro in Pattaya on walking street or in BKK that I thought was above a 6. Most looked like 5's at best. But note, I am not talking about Russian tourist girls. They are another story. So, my advice to all newbies who think they want to sample a "Russian" girl in Thailand for money is to fuhgeddaboudit. Thai girls are better looking and are much less likely to try to rip you off.

But when I was in Macau last November in Familia Nobre, I saw a tall, blond, well endowed, natural breasted, thin Ukrainian girl in their lineup. She was nothing short of spectacular IMHO. Easily 9* and as good looking as some of the better looking MPL & Met Art internet soft porn girls. She smiled at me as I looked over the 50 some girls in the lineup. For the 1st time in Asia I was truly tempted by a white girl. 555. Unfortunately Familia Nobre knew her monetary value for sure, especially with well-off Chinese gambler types. Her price was 4500 mop or $556 so I punted and settled, LOL, for a really attractive and still very expensive Chinese "model" girl. But 4 months later I am still impressed with that Ukrainian girl's looks. She was that hot.

PS it is human nature to want what we have never had. I have a particular yearning for a good looking Ethiopian girl. Sadly, based on what I have read in the ISG Ethiopian thread, I am not about to get on a plane and go Addis Ababa any time soon. I think that would be a big letdown. But I still keep my eyes open for one in places like Macau and Singapore. Maybe one day I will find one, but she has to be sexy. 555!

Dive Monger
03-14-19, 15:08
This might be true for inexperienced Asian guys that have never had a white girl, but I don't think it holds water for Farangs accustomed to shagging white girls or knowledgeable, well travelled NE Asians that have shagged their fair share of white girls. Personally, I have never seen a "Russian" pro in Pattaya on walking street or in BKK that I thought was above a 6. Most looked like 5's at best. But note, I am not talking about Russian tourist girls. They are another story. So, my advice to all newbies who think they want to sample a "Russian" girl in Thailand for money is to fuhgeddaboudit. Thai girls are better looking and are much less likely to try to rip you off.

But when I was in Macau last November in Familia Nobre, I saw a tall, blond, well endowed, natural breasted, thin Ukrainian girl in their lineup. She was nothing short of spectacular IMHO. Easily 9* and as good looking as some of the better looking MPL & Met Art internet soft porn girls. She smiled at me as I looked over the 50 some girls in the lineup. For the 1st time in Asia I was truly tempted by a white girl. 555. Unfortunately Familia Nobre knew her monetary value for sure, especially with well-off Chinese gambler types. Her price was 4500 mop or $556 so I punted and settled, LOL, for a really attractive and still very expensive Chinese "model" girl. But 4 months later I am still impressed with that Ukrainian girl's looks. She was that hot.

PS it is human nature to want what we have never had. I have a particular yearning for a good looking Ethiopian girl. Sadly, based on what I have read in the ISG Ethiopian thread, I am not about to get on a plane and go Addis Ababa any time soon. I think that would be a big letdown. But I still keep my eyes open for one in places like Macau and Singapore. Maybe one day I will find one, but she has to be sexy. 555!Totally with you here, Natty. I've had most of a lifetime of white girls in the wasteland, and at this point have no interest whatsoever in them. Besides, why in the world would one travel to the other side of the planet to the land of almond-skinned sweeties to spend far too much money for a white girl? Seems quite crazy to me.

D Cups
03-14-19, 15:13
Totally with you here, Natty. I've had most of a lifetime of white girls in the wasteland, and at this point have no interest whatsoever in them. Besides, why in the world would one travel to the other side of the planet to the land of almond-skinned sweeties to spend far too much money for a white girl? Seems quite crazy to me.Indeed. I admit to a fantasy with a buxom Middle Eastern or East Indian girl but have no desire to go there. I suppose there are many in Bangkok.

Mr Enternational
03-14-19, 16:14
Totally with you here, Natty. I've had most of a lifetime of white girls in the wasteland, and at this point have no interest whatsoever in them. Besides, why in the world would one travel to the other side of the planet to the land of almond-skinned sweeties to spend far too much money for a white girl? Seems quite crazy to me.Then you are probably not Indian or Arab. Remember there are mongers from all over the world here.

GeneralM
03-14-19, 16:35
Totally with you here, Natty. I've had most of a lifetime of white girls in the wasteland, and at this point have no interest whatsoever in them. Besides, why in the world would one travel to the other side of the planet to the land of almond-skinned sweeties to spend far too much money for a white girl? Seems quite crazy to me.I have some great memories of my times in Russia just after the collapse of the Soviet system. That's why I checked out one of the Russian clubs on WS. Ya know, I might have paid up for the right one, just for some variety. I might have stayed longer if their was some energy or more attractive girls. However the Russians really didn't compete well with the Asian talent, especially at 2 to 4 times the price. This club had clumsy girls from Siberia (I chatted up with one), several were chunky, and they clopped around on heels like jr high schools girls at their first formal dance. If they had some elegant Moscow girls, the ones that just ooze with sexiness, yea, I would do one for variety.

NguyetLang
03-14-19, 17:59
I think the whole idea behind the thing is the white skin, not the age or attractiveness of them.Yes, I must admit. During my college years in USA I had a white girlfriend who was considered plain Jane by my American friends. But to me she was more than attractive. We parted ways after college and have not met again. That parts of me still wonder about her and I suppose that explains why I always have a soft spot in my heart for white girl. However, my best experience (and price) with white girls are actually in the UAE and, of all places, southern California, USA. You can find plenty of info just RTFF in Dubai forum. The info in California is a bit more work but they are also available thru RTFF.

Lefeu
03-14-19, 18:12
...my best experience (and price) with white girls are actually in the UAE and, of all places, southern California, USA. You can find plenty of info just RTFF in Dubai forum. The info in California is a bit more work but they are also available thru RTFF.For white girls, I don't think anything can beat Germany on the price. You can have a basic session for 50 Euros, and there are ton of Eastern European girls working there.

Wimble
03-14-19, 20:08
You see some cute blonds and sometimes so so Asian guys. I know some are European or overseas expats.

Either the guy has a good game or money, I don't know. But most of guys with similar looks tend to be chasing local skirts and not willing to give Barbie her desired level of attention.


Yes, I must admit. During my college years in USA I had a white girlfriend who was considered plain Jane by my American friends. But to me she was more than attractive. We parted ways after college and have not met again. That parts of me still wonder about her and I suppose that explains why I always have a soft spot in my heart for white girl. However, my best experience (and price) with white girls are actually in the UAE and, of all places, southern California, USA. You can find plenty of info just RTFF in Dubai forum. The info in California is a bit more work but they are also available thru RTFF.

Dive Monger
03-15-19, 00:15
For white girls, I don't think anything can beat Germany on the price. You can have a basic session for 50 Euros, and there are ton of Eastern European girls working there.I will say that a number of years ago I visited Oase (FKK outside of Frankfurt) and had a number of white girls, most from Romania. Good experience, but compared to my memories of Thai ladies (and Viets), they simply do not measure up. Part of my negativity might also be due to the white ones I had for decades in the USA: most chunky, didn't smell or taste real good, they have the omnipresent chip on the shoulder (probably because they were American, didn't notice that in Europeans I have been close to), and just were generally forgettable. All of the top gash in my memories were either Thai or Viet. But of course, YMMV.

SeaWalker
03-15-19, 04:22
Hi guys!

I shall be visiting Pattaya this summer with my girlfriend. Which is the best area for finding non-FS or HJ-Only oilies, where I can take her without raising all her antennas? Any MP names / locations would be welcome.

Thanks.

Turgid
03-15-19, 13:52
You see some cute blonds and sometimes so so Asian guys. I know some are European or overseas expats.

Either the guy has a good game or money, I don't know. But most of guys with similar looks tend to be chasing local skirts and not willing to give Barbie her desired level of attention.I think generally attraction towards the opposite sex is organic; Asian men prefer Asian women and white men prefer white women, for example. That rule applies to me but I like variety.

Blanquiceleste
03-15-19, 14:32
I think generally attraction towards the opposite sex is organic; Asian men prefer Asian women and white men prefer white women, for example. That rule applies to me but I like variety.I don't think men discriminate. 5555.

MysManiac
03-15-19, 16:19
Folks,

Have visited Pattaya twice but never tried anal sex though. I know this topic is already discussed but couldn't find those posts. Wanted to know how you guys approach ladies for anal sex. Do you ask her right on her face or do you deal with her once she is in your room. Thanks in advance folks. Keep Banging safe. Cheers.

Steve 9696
03-15-19, 17:07
I think generally attraction towards the opposite sex is organic; Asian men prefer Asian women and white men prefer white women, for example. That rule applies to me but I like variety.Certainly not the case for me. I am northern Euro stock and they are my least favorite women. Give me a petite Viet or a nice Latina any day. And Ro-girls that run to the darker shades work just fine as well! But no Nordic babes for me please.

Member #4698
03-15-19, 18:50
I don't think men discriminate. 5555.Most men are dogs. They may have their preferences & loyalties, but in a pinch they will fuck almost anything that breathes and women know that. LOL.

Rob Jones
03-15-19, 23:22
Certainly not the case for me. I am northern Euro stock and they are my least favorite women. Give me a petite Viet or a nice Latina any day. And Ro-girls that run to the darker shades work just fine as well! But no Nordic babes for me please.I agree with you. I am Caucasian and I haven't fucked a western girl for almost 20 years. I can not stand their attitude and prefer Asian women.

LittleBigMan
03-16-19, 01:48
Most men are dogs. They may have their preferences & loyalties, but in a pinch they will fuck almost anything that breathes and women know that. LOL.You are correct, being in Thailand you just described, in general, a Thai man (aka Soi dog) to a T.

IMembr
03-16-19, 05:03
Folks,

Have visited Pattaya twice but never tried anal sex though. I know this topic is already discussed but couldn't find those posts. Wanted to know how you guys approach ladies for anal sex. Do you ask her right on her face or do you deal with her once she is in your room. Thanks in advance folks. Keep Banging safe. Cheers.Just ask before you bring her to your room. Settle all details before going to your room. These girls have heard everything, so don't be shy but still be respectful in asking.

Franga
03-16-19, 08:00
Wanted to know how you guys approach ladies for anal sex. Do you ask her right on her face or do you deal with her once she is in your room.You need to ask them directly before you take them. Most chicks don't do it. If you wait until you are in the room then 90% of the time you will be disappointed.

Mr Enternational
03-16-19, 11:16
I was walking down Soi Lengkee last night and saw a sign that said Nuru Massage so I walked over. There were chicks outside and one rushed over to me while another ran inside and got a pamphlet. They told me that they offer body to body massage for 1500 baht 45 minutes. I told them that I wanted to know about the Nuru. They said Nuru is the 1500 baht deal. They kept trying to get me to take 2 chicks. There was a chick without a uniform on who was the most attractive. They told me that she was also part of the selection. There were prices on the door of normal massages, but they blocked it with their body and told me not to pay attention to that. Either that is left from the last shop, or it is part of their front. I didn't ask if fucking was included, but for 1500 baht and the "body to body" description, I am pretty sure it is.

LittleBigMan
03-16-19, 11:51
I was walking down Soi Lengkee last night and saw a sign that said Nuru Massage so I walked over. There were chicks outside and one rushed over to me while another ran inside and got a pamphlet. They told me that they offer body to body massage for 1500 baht 45 minutes. I told them that I wanted to know about the Nuru. They said Nuru is the 1500 baht deal. They kept trying to get me to take 2 chicks. There was a chick without a uniform on who was the most attractive. They told me that she was also part of the selection. There were prices on the door of normal massages, but they blocked it with their body and told me not to pay attention to that. Either that is left from the last shop, or it is part of their front. I didn't ask if fucking was included, but for 1500 baht and the "body to body" description, I am pretty sure it is.WTF, Mr. E,

Stop messing around! How do you expect me to see the photos all sideway and upside down? You know that shot you hit straight back to the pitcher mound 100 MPH nearly told my head off ended up spraining my neck avoiding it!

Christian G
03-16-19, 12:05
I didn't ask if fucking was included, but for 1500 baht and the "body to body" description, I am pretty sure it is.For what I read on another 2 forums fucking isn't included. Only HJ / BJ seems included. There is a sister shop in Patong Beach (Nanai Road) and FS seems not included also.

Mr Enternational
03-16-19, 12:25
WTF, Mr. E,

Stop messing around! How do you expect me to see the photos all sideway and upside down? You know that shot you hit straight back to the pitcher mound 100 MPH nearly told my head off ended up spraining my neck avoiding it!Well shit. They were sideways on my phone. I turned them the right way. Then I posted them here and they came out the wrong way. Can't win with whatever system this website uses.

Mr Enternational
03-16-19, 13:41
The other night I went looking for my mamasan at her bar on Soi Lengkee. 10 pm and the bar was closed. I sent her a messsage and she said that she had told me that the place was closing and she was opening up another place. (She said the old place was 35 K per month for 4 floors.) I remembered nothing of the sort, but later my wingman did confirm that she had told me that. So I told her to send me the location of the new place. Pratumnak? WTF? I am not about to drive all the way over there. Then I remembered a friend of mine was having a birthday party at the bar she works at in Made in Thailand, so I headed over there.

The next night I was not doing anything so I decided to pop in to see my mamasan. She had sent the location as The Hideaway Resort. I started my GPS and headed that way. When I got there it was quiet and I saw nothing resembling a bar in sight. I turned my motorbike around and was about to send her a message when she was actually walking in my direction. She had come from 7 Eleven.

She said the new place is a gentlemen's club and it is actually kind of at The Hideaway Resort. But when you enter the hotel breezeway you are actually on the back side of the g-club. On the first floor on that side there are blacked out sliding glass doors that have signs up saying private party. I asked how somebody is supposed to know about this place. She said something about only knowing if they are on the facebook page or whatever.

She gave me a tour and took me out the front door. Ahh there is a sign and everything makes more sense now. She said I probably would not have found it if she would have described it that way though. But anyway they are open from 2 pm to 10 pm. They have an MC Burger buffet on Sundays for 299 baht. Lady drinks are 125 baht.

Upstairs are the private rooms. But they are not bedrooms. They are just big rooms with a few sofas in them. I was asking her how much for the girls and about taking them up, but she was like whatever happens between whoever is their own business. So beats me. I did meet a couple of the girls while I was there last night. Nice. If anyone is familiar with Sky Gallery then it is a couple hundred meters before you get to that.

Banana Boi
03-16-19, 13:49
I visited Blue Olives when it first opened because I liked one of the girls in the photos they used to promote the bar. Figured she'd be worth 1000 baht which I assumed was the cost. She wasn't there. No one else there interested me to ask about pricing. Good thing about this bar is Heaven G club is nearby and Kinnaree is a 30 baht motorbike ride away.

Been meaning to check it out again for the MC​ Burger day.

Bdonkadonk
03-16-19, 18:50
Bit of a boring day in Pattaya today. I was in the mood for having a few drinks but discovered that all bars are closed today from 6 PM until 6 PM tomorrow. No alcohol is permitted to be sold anywhere so it's not even possible to buy beers from 7-11.

I was told it is because of elections tomorrow and it will be exactly the same next Saturday, from 6 PM until 6 PM Sunday. I haven't been to Soi 6 but everything must be closed there. Walking Street is dead now with no discos or bars open. Luckily massage shops are not affected by this bar ban so at least I was able to get laid in Soi Chaiyapoon before.

Dive Monger
03-16-19, 19:11
Certainly not the case for me. I am northern Euro stock and they are my least favorite women. Give me a petite Viet or a nice Latina any day. And Ro-girls that run to the darker shades work just fine as well! But no Nordic babes for me please.Yep, exactly Steve. I am from North America, and I have no desire for any of that physical type (which are mostly descended from Northern European and Nordic stock). Petite asians and latinas pretty much only.

Lobowmc
03-16-19, 21:41
I was walking down Soi Lengkee last night and saw a sign that said Nuru Massage so I walked over. There were chicks outside and one rushed over to me while another ran inside and got a pamphlet. They told me that they offer body to body massage for 1500 baht 45 minutes. I told them that I wanted to know about the Nuru. They said Nuru is the 1500 baht deal. They kept trying to get me to take 2 chicks. There was a chick without a uniform on who was the most attractive. They told me that she was also part of the selection. There were prices on the door of normal massages, but they blocked it with their body and told me not to pay attention to that. Either that is left from the last shop, or it is part of their front. I didn't ask if fucking was included, but for 1500 baht and the "body to body" description, I am pretty sure it is.I was there last month. Nuru is done on a bed using a hot oil. Lady gives you a standing shower. You then lie face down on bed. Nice normal massage at first with hot oil. Eventually full body nuru sliding on my back. On the flip more body to body and BBBJ. No FS. That's the rule. I tried. My therapists Ann has a nice body for nuru. Good P to P action. She got me off and I left happy and exhausted. Had a great time. Went back again the next day.

Turgid
03-17-19, 01:25
Yep, exactly Steve. I am from North America, and I have no desire for any of that physical type (which are mostly descended from Northern European and Nordic stock). Petite asians and latinas pretty much only.I knew this guy back in the day, he's Caucasian, he won't touch a non-Caucasian, he just does not like them. He'd only bed Caucasian women. He's good looking and I tried to get him interested in a beautiful American mulatta who'd rejected me. He wanted nothing to do with her. It takes all types, woof woof.