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Mr Enternational
06-03-20, 20:45
Sometimes it is after you are in the room, you think it is too easy so you start to have question. Calling the receptionist discretely to confirm is the easier method.What is too easy? You made a deal with a hooker before you went to the room, but once you got in the room you anticipate that she is supposed to play hard to get? And if she doesn't, then she may be a man?
Again, you could have asked to see the ID card a long time ago avoiding any suspicion or anxiety. It is okay to ask them about sucking your dick and fucking them in the ass and finishing in their mouth, but you need to be discreet and involve a third party to assure you it is not a man you are about to fuck, instead of looking at the ID yourself when you picked them up? That makes no sense. Now you have the entire hotel staff giggling behind your back for the rest of the stay because you thought a man was a woman.
And once again, what is your move when the receptionist informs you that it is indeed a man?
Member #4698
06-03-20, 21:38
Once again, if a punter has even a 1% intuition that the girl might be a dude then something ain't right. It doesn't matter if the girl turns out to be a girl or something else. Pass. There are literally 100's of girl girls waiting in line to take her place that won't trigger that 1% something is fishy feeling. Trust your instincts.
Of course, you can always ask. DUH! A girl girl will laugh and say why you ask. A LB will admit she is a ladyboy. And a Postie will say she is a girl, but she won't laugh like a real girl because she won't find the question funny. Ha Ha. And if you are still nervous about the hooker you can ask to see her ID. Just say I want to make sure you are over 18. But I will say it on more time; if you are that worried about the hooker being a LB, then what the fuck are you doing with her in the first place? You should have immediately passed on the opportunity unless you have a thing for androgynous, borderline girls or you really want a LB but are afraid to admit that to yourself.
Hey, Thailand is all about having a good time. I like the place because you can pretty much have your cake and eat it too. Trust me, LB's are not a problem for most of us, but they are part of the scenery. 555.
Once again, if a punter has even a 1% intuition that the girl might be a dude then something ain't right. It doesn't matter if the girl turns out to be a girl or something else. Pass. There are literally 100's of girl girls waiting in line to take her place that won't trigger that 1% something is fishy feeling. Trust your instincts...Except in the case when a punter falls for the subject, girl or LB. We all have met a stunningly beautiful girl, who turned out to be LB. I met one in Makati not long ago, and I was saddened that such a beauty would be an LB. When I asked whether she was an LB, the response was that I would get the best service from an LB. I passed.
I was not so lucky in Pattaya. I ended up picking up a post op girl. It was not until I started pumping her in my hotel room, that I realized something was amiss. It felt like I was banging an artificial doll.
You guys do realize that every LB has numerous hot girl friends on the game, right?
Option 1 is to lose your shitt and have a huge arguement.
Option 2 is to politely decline, say it not your thing, then ask if she has any pretty friends who would like a night of fun.
I'm not condoning LBs' deception but what happened after a monger finds the truth early on can still end in a good night if handled smartly.
Enjoy. G.
Trying to add to my stable and line up girls one by one. So far I have about 7 girls who I'm impressed with bodies, faces, and service that I haven't quite shared them with ISG just yet. That's until I get bored of fucking them. The rest, I honestly don't care and the become Monkeypaw scraps. So yes, the best are still inside my pockets. So here's three more second hand goods. I call them the crazy girls. One wants 3000 baht and a sugar daddy. One wants condom everything even BJ and HJ for 1800. The other won't give you a pricing until you add her by LINE for a deep convo, video, and then it was 2000. All are within my budget.
(maybe not the 3000 but she's not worth it to me or trust me, I'll not eat for a day), but not worth the trouble for me. Maybe, some of you can get better results for a cheaper price and let us know about it. If I don't hear from you back, then I guessing you got a worse response or none at all. So take your best shot at these three crazies and give me the 411 on what I'm doing wrong?
P.S. Hey look her hand is near her crotch in the pic, so she must be hiding something.
Member #4698
06-04-20, 13:26
I was not so lucky in Pattaya. I ended up picking up a post op girl. It was not until I started pumping her in my hotel room, that I realized something was amiss. It felt like I was banging an artificial doll.So you didn't have any clue about the girl until your dick was in her "vagina" ? Yikes!, But let me ask you a question: then how did you finally discover her vagina was man made and not just super cavernous?
I once went out with a girl with a super large vagina. Fucking her was like sticking my dick in Carlsbad Cavern. There was no feeling / no friction of any kind. So the relationship was doomed from the start and I only went out with her 3 times, but I will never forget our last night together: I began to finger her, one finger, 2 fingers and then 3 fingers. She was very wet and her body language seemed to be asking for more. It also appeared to me like there was still plenty of room in there, so I slowly inserted my whole hand until it was completely inside her vagina and she went wild. Now the amazing part of this story is that I was a very young man back then and I absolutely had no friggin' idea what I was doing. I had never heard of the term "fisting" or even thought about the possibility. It was all a complete adlib on my part, yet somehow I instinctively found my way. After the girl had a very physical orgasm, she moved down on my dick and gave me the best BJ I had ever had up to that point.
My experience with an extra large cavernous pussy reminds me of the story about Sonny Corleone and his girlfriend in the Mario Puzo's original novel, "the Godfather", not the movie. In the book Sonny had a super large cock and a monstrous appetite for women, ha ha, and his girlfriend had a super large pussy no other guy could fill, again ha ha, so he and his girlfriend were made for each other. But after Sonny is gun downed, the girlfriend can't find another man who she can satisfy or who can satisfy her until she meets a gynecologist who understands exactly what the problem is and he arranges to have her vagina surgically tightened. All I am saying is if your post op LB managed to get past your LB radar without detection, how do you now know she is a dude and not some girl with a super large pussy?
Trying to add to my stable and line up girls one by one. So far I have about 7 girls who I'm impressed with bodies, faces, and service that I haven't quite shared them with ISG just yet. That's until I get bored of fucking them. The rest, I honestly don't care and the become Monkeypaw scraps. So yes, the best are still inside my pockets. So here's three more second hand goods. I call them the crazy girls. One wants 3000 baht and a sugar daddy. One wants condom everything even BJ and HJ for 1800. The other won't give you a pricing until you add her by LINE for a deep convo, video, and then it was 2000. All are within my budget.
(maybe not the 3000 but she's not worth it to me or trust me, I'll not eat for a day), but not worth the trouble for me. Maybe, some of you can get better results for a cheaper price and let us know about it. If I don't hear from you back, then I guessing you got a worse response or none at all. So take your best shot at these three crazies and give me the 411 on what I'm doing wrong?
P.S. Hey look her hand is near her crotch in the pic, so she must be hiding something.I saw Wiky in Jan in bkk I think in a bar. 2000ST she asked. She is just okay in bed. Plus in real she doesn't looked as good to me as her pics on TF. But it's subjective. 3000 for ST in Pattaya is crazy for her, I would advice sticking to 1500. She won't give anything extra which any other girl can't give for same 1500.
I once went out with a girl with a super large vagina.Did she have a big mouth? I have kinda noticed a correlation between mouth size and vagina size. Women who have small mouths are usually tight and women with big mouths are a little loser. Wondering if anyone else has noticed this?
Danny Duck
06-04-20, 18:58
You guys do realize that every LB has numerous hot girl friends on the game, right?
Option 1 is to lose your shitt and have a huge arguement.
Option 2 is to politely decline, say it not your thing, then ask if she has any pretty friends who would like a night of fun.
I'm not condoning LBs' deception but what happened after a monger finds the truth early on can still end in a good night if handled smartly.
Enjoy. G.I never noticed this.
What is too easy? You made a deal with a hooker before you went to the room, but once you got in the room you anticipate that she is supposed to play hard to get? And if she doesn't, then she may be a man? It is more about her behavior than anything else.
I saw a very attractive girl chatting with a group of friends on the street outside of my hotel. I was pretty sure they are all females. She gave me a price, then she said she would do everything but what sticked to me was she followed up with "it's very cheap". Usually a pretty girl in Bangkok don't behave this way.
but once you got in the room you anticipate that she is supposed to play hard to get? And if she doesn't, then she may be a man? No, in the room, I was waiting for her to finish shower and have nothing to do so I decided to call receptionist to check. I was surprised that she got a male ID.
Again, you could have asked to see the ID card a long time ago avoiding any suspicion or anxiety.
I don't have suspicion at the time. If I thought I need to check ID, then I probably would not approach her. She looked normal, petite like all her friends, not much makeup. I think I was more excited than anything else, haha. I am just armature and cannot be compared to a major leaguer like you.
Now you have the entire hotel staff giggling behind your back for the rest of the stay because you thought a man was a woman.
That does not really say anything about me. I think it said something about them. The hotel staff should be used to this if they work in this business, I don't think it matters. Some receptionists in some hotel are LBs too.
And once again, what is your move when the receptionist informs you that it is indeed a man?I checked her pussy when she got out of the shower, hehe. I still could not tell even when she is completely naked in front of me. Her explanation was she was under 18 so she borrowed ID from her friend. I don't remember her reply on why she would borrowed a male ID. After, she put on her cloth and left upset like a female, the voice pitch, expression and gesture were completely normal like a female.
Did she have a big mouth? I have kinda noticed a correlation between mouth size and vagina size. Women who have small mouths are usually tight and women with big mouths are a little loser. Wondering if anyone else has noticed this?No correlation between a female with a large mouth and a big or loose pussy in my experience. Puffy lips can often bode well for her vagina being cushy and enveloping though.
But regarding the unfortunate cavernous pussy, I have never tried one (well, unless the LB was so convincing I did not realize it), but wouldn't a surgically manufactured "pussy" more likely be too shallow and probably dry rather than cavernous?
Not that a LB has a "pussy." He never will have one. A post-op LB can only have some remaining penis or scrotum skin and tissue tucked into the area for his partner to rub against.
Mr Enternational
06-05-20, 05:25
I checked her pussy when she got out of the shower, hehe. I still could not tell even when she is completely naked in front of me. Her explanation was she was under 18 so she borrowed ID from her friend. LOL. So now not only are you about to fuck a dude, but you are going to jail because he is under 18!
Pimpampoumpipo
06-05-20, 13:18
Did she have a big mouth? I have kinda noticed a correlation between mouth size and vagina size. Women who have small mouths are usually tight and women with big mouths are a little loser. Wondering if anyone else has noticed this?Mmmmmm. Interesting.
Perhaps we could do a study on this and post on The Lancet.
I saw Wiky in Jan in bkk I think in a bar. 2000ST she asked. She is just okay in bed. Plus in real she doesn't looked as good to me as her pics on TF. But it's subjective. 3000 for ST in Pattaya is crazy for her, I would advice sticking to 1500. She won't give anything extra which any other girl can't give for same 1500.Yep, she seems no more than a 1500 baht girl to me, though my budget allowed to me to have her. At 3000. If she can get away with 3000 baht for ST in Pattaya during these times, good for her. I've learn my lesson with chicks who start with a high price and you have to negotiate down. Usually, the experience is not what you'd expect. There was a older girl, I saw when I first got here on Beach Road. She stood out because she was never standing in one spot, she was always walking around with her friend. Both had huge fake tits. Most days they are at Tree Town sitting on a mat eating dinner. Both girls always smiled at me when I took my daily stroll in the evening on the Beach. Finally one day I hit her up and she started at 3000 for ST. She told me it would be "special" because she was into cosplay and dress up fantasies. I told her I wasn't Japanese. I almost bit out of curiosity, but respectfully declined. She then went down to 2500, then 2000. I just ended up taking her LINE and told her I'd get with her when I can. About a week later, I did and I met her at her condo she shared with her friend. I pretended I was a sick with COVID and she was my nurse. She couldn't act worth a fuck and only CBJ me along with lackluster sex. What a waste of 2000 baht.
About a week later, I did and I met her at her condo she shared with her friend. I pretended I was a sick with COVID and she was my nurse. She couldn't act worth a fuck and only CBJ me along with lackluster sex. What a waste of 2000 baht.Role-play has been very hit-and-miss for me in Thailand. But Filipinos, well well that's a different story. I know one Filipino in bkk who can play any role. Once I just sent her a video and asked her to use it as a script. And she did just that. I guess it's because the fact that Thai girls are shy by nature, even tho they can do wild things in bed. But this thai girl I met last year in a club, she was 38 but looked 28. Had a baby but no fat or baby bump. On our second meeting, I asked her to do nurse role-play. Without going into too much details, she took care of me whole night. Role-play requires some experience and understanding of what men likes and how to seduce them.
It is more about her behavior than anything else.
I saw a very attractive girl chatting with a group of friends on the street outside of my hotel. I was pretty sure they are all females. She gave me a price, then she said she would do everything but what sticked to me was she followed up with "it's very cheap". Usually a pretty girl in Bangkok don't behave this way.
No, in the room, I was waiting for her to finish shower and have nothing to do so I decided to call receptionist to check. I was surprised that she got a male ID.
I don't have suspicion at the time. If I thought I need to check ID, then I probably would not approach her. She looked normal, petite like all her friends, not much makeup. I think I was more excited than anything else, haha. I am just armature and cannot be compared to a major leaguer like you.
That does not really say anything about me. I think it said something about them. The hotel staff should be used to this if they work in this business, I don't think it matters. Some receptionists in some hotel are LBs too.Lb's ares ometimes hard to predict. Even the post ops so if you feel very loose while banging her may be it's her p days. Often during this time the pussy is loose. But it's easy to guess sometimes looking the body and face only and voice too.
It's difficult to guess for a thick woman but easy for a lean girl. So it's shape and size matters for me.
Pimpampoumpipo
06-05-20, 19:56
I pretended I was a sick with COVID and she was my nurse. .Yes when I see your pics I feel sick too.
Danny Duck
06-05-20, 20:43
Yes when I see your pics I feel sick too.My local chapter of TLM. Thai lives matter says open up. Now.
Pimpampoumpipo
06-05-20, 21:35
My local chapter of TLM. Thai lives matter says open up. Now.Yessssss please open these fucking borders! Or I'm going to die from a side effect of covid 19.
Beijing4987
06-06-20, 00:51
Somebody coughed on me in February. I got a cough, cold symptoms, and pneumonia, so I took food grade hydrogen peroxide, chloroquine, colloidal silver and mullein tea. Felt great the next day, so I'm immune and good to go.
NapaSlapper
06-06-20, 15:18
For all those claiming just check a Thai girls ID yourself for age and gender, you do realize that unless one can read Thai then they won't have a clue as to the details as all Thai ids are obviously written in the Thai script, hence why I suggested tipping the security guard or receptionist who is able to read Thai to advise before heading to the room.
Sheesh, its like some board members have never been to Thailand to not know these simple facts.
NapaSlapper
06-06-20, 15:37
I think the tell according to Napa is the way she position her hand to hide the "bulge". I don't think about checking that. That is way underestimating their ability. Any reasonable monger will not post so many female pictures knowing they are not. It just does not make common sense.Positioning of hands to hide the crotch area is only a very small part of what to look for, others are very tall, broad square shoulders, Adam's apples, very long arms / legs / square jaw line, big hands, big feet, deep voice and many more.
Unfortunately many on most boards can see most of these traits and still insist they are posting pictures or fucking females.
Spend enough years in Thailand and one can start to tell the difference in the sexes within a very short glance.
As far as ladyboys owning up to their sex its 50/50, some will hide the fact that they have a dick and balls in the hope they can get away with just giving a blow job with some excuse like they just started their period back at the room.
Sex change will never say they are male because in their minds having a sex change has made him into a complete her.
Is anyone tired of having to sign in and out everywhere you go yet!
SNIPEverybody scribbling, some no phone number, tourists not even filling out completely. So how do they track again if we are sick? Oh, only those from foreign countries have been sick when they are repatriated. I wonder how many people just live in this oblivion and believe any government. Hell, most people don't even trust their own judgement.
NapaSlapper
06-06-20, 16:24
Everybody scribbling, some no phone number, tourists not even filling out completely. So how do they track again if we are sick? Oh, only those from foreign countries have been sick when they are repatriated. I wonder how many people just live in this oblivion and believe any government. Hell, most people don't even trust their own judgement.You do realise that what one writes on the form has no relevance at all, why.
Because when one comes into the country immigration takes ones photo at the airport, apply for a Thai visa and one has to supply photos of ones self and again a digital photo is taken by immigration of one.
Ever noticed the big camera on entering any mall or the CCTV system installed, yes you guessed it, facial recognition with time stamp, the authorities know exactly who one is and when one entered regardless of what one writes.
Surely anyone who has visited Thailand for even a short visit would know these simple facts.
For all those claiming just check a Thai girls ID yourself for age and gender, you do realize that unless one can read Thai then they won't have a clue as to the details as all Thai ids are obviously written in the Thai script, hence why I suggested tipping the security guard or receptionist who is able to read Thai to advise before heading to the room.
Sheesh, its like some board members have never been to Thailand to not know these simple facts.Thai ID expires every 6 years. Since 2005, thai ID is bilingual. A Ladyboy or postop would have "Mr" on it.
And are all your posts nothing but rants?
Mr Enternational
06-06-20, 18:56
Thai ID expires every 6 years. Since 2005, thai ID is bilingual. A Ladyboy or postop would have "Mr" on it.Uhh yeah. To quote one of our smartest BMs, "Sheesh, its like some board members have never been to Thailand to not know these simple facts!" 2005. My first year coming to Thailand. Every ID that I have seen has been in both Thai and English with Mr or Miss before the name. Whenever I ask to see a girl's ID, I take a look at it then shout out MISTER? They always get a kick out of that.
For all those claiming just check a Thai girls ID yourself for age and gender, you do realize that unless one can read Thai then they won't have a clue as to the details as all Thai ids are obviously written in the Thai script, hence why I suggested tipping the security guard or receptionist who is able to read Thai to advise before heading to the room.
Sheesh, its like some board members have never been to Thailand to not know these simple facts.Obviously! But they are also written in English as well. So who should you tip to read the English part for you? Damn dog, seems like you would have at least googled what a Thai ID card looks like from your mom's basement before you made the post.
LittleBigMan
06-07-20, 07:52
You do realise that what one writes on the form has no relevance at all, why.
Because when one comes into the country immigration takes ones photo at the airport, apply for a Thai visa and one has to supply photos of ones self and again a digital photo is taken by immigration of one.
Ever noticed the big camera on entering any mall or the CCTV system installed, yes you guessed it, facial recognition with time stamp, the authorities know exactly who one is and when one entered regardless of what one writes.
Surely anyone who has visited Thailand for even a short visit would know these simple facts.Not always the case? You made a very good point but this is Thailand? We think or expect things here is the same as the West I can tell you it isn't. When it comes to cameras I remember a guy was killed in the States a few years back when I was visiting when they went to the cameras they found 50% of them weren't even working on the trains see at times enforcement is putting doubt in people mines that are part of enforcement thinking someone is watching that produces doubt no country has enough manpower to cover everything.
When you talk about facial recognition what you see at the airport and places in Bangkok doesn't mean every city or province has the same technology. People who live here always refer to Bangkok even Pattaya as not being part of Thailand. Outside of Bangkok, there aren't any riot squads, FBI training centers nor do they have many of the technology afforded to the Bangkok authorities it is like they are a country of their own.
Pattaya is a bit of an exception they get more funding because they are one of the top tourists' cities and belong to the Eastern economic zones thus get more funding than other provinces. When it comes to funding it is based on the number of households registered and property owners not everyone who works or live in Pattaya are registered being able to do so there are certain requirements and if you are lucky to do it you are afforded to use the hospital for example in the province of Chon Buri for 30 baht for example. When it comes to Pattaya I was told in conversation by the vice mayor 5 years ago how things work there was something like 350 people who are actually on the payroll the rest are all contracted and that pretty much includes everyone and there are thousands of workers. For example immigration, at Jomtien, you got about a dozen who are on payroll the rest are just contracted out and register population increase each department can add.
So back to facial recognition there is a much better chance of identifying a foreigner as you noted you got to go through the process at Immigration and the airport but what about for Thais. Unless they are able to travel if an outbreak is traced to a particular time at one of the shopping centers it would be very tough in my opinion to find the Thais since many aren't register nor does every city have the technology to track people down the reason the local BIB are given the ability to be judge and jury to the majority of the cases the system just isn't large enough. Some people think all the hotel taxes etc. Go to the city not true it goes into one giant pot it is distributed based on household so if you live upcountry you are going to get short change every year the reason these cities and provinces have the type of corruptions they do.
Privately the CCTV is most likely working but in the end, you need the local authority to do the work the government better allocates a lot of money to get them to move otherwise it is like before just put out a notice who was here and hope the honor system works. They have CCTV on Highway 7, the major highway to and from Bangkok last year it was reported over 1 million unpaid speeding tickets yet to be collected and growing if you open a bank account in Chiang Mai and need to close it and you live in Pattaya you need to get up and do it at the original branch. You go to many government offices upcountry they are still writing things in logs and using typewriters What you think happens or should happen is not always the case here particularly in Thailand the technological system is just not there nor linked up.
And are all your posts nothing but rants?Yes they are. He has been flooding the Philippines forum for a long time with his BS and now he has come here unfortunately. Just ignore him.
NapaSlapper
06-07-20, 12:47
Uhh yeah. To quote one of our smartest BMs, "Sheesh, its like some board members have never been to Thailand to not know these simple facts!" 2005. My first year coming to Thailand. Every ID that I have seen has been in both Thai and English with Mr or Miss before the name. Whenever I ask to see a girl's ID, I take a look at it then shout out MISTER? They always get a kick out of that.
Obviously! But they are also written in English as well. So who should you tip to read the English part for you? Damn dog, seems like you would have at least googled what a Thai ID card looks like from your mom's basement before you made the post.I think you will find for non Thai speakers or Thai people who work overseas one can ask for their ID or driving licence to show both at the time of applying, my Thai driving licenses are like this, all Thai IDs I have seen are in the Thai script only and I have seen hundreds LOL.
Starbucks on Beach Road, near Soi Post Office. Not enough customers to pay the rent. Closed until further notice.
LittleBigMan
06-08-20, 02:11
Starbucks on Beach Road, near Soi Post Office. Not enough customers to pay the rent. Closed until further notice.Tukcom one is open.
Positioning of hands to hide the crotch area is only a very small part of what to look for, others are very tall, broad square shoulders, Adam's apples, very long arms / legs / square jaw line, big hands, big feet, deep voice and many more. SNIP.She's my top one at Thermae. Not sure how the heck she is allowed to stand at her spot if they are only supposedly allow females there. Look at those squared shoulders on her. Must be a ladyboy then. LOL.
Tukcom one is open.I guess what they are doing is "contracting. " I figured the purpose of track and trace, scanning and signing in was to more about tracking customer flow rather than COVID. One by one, these businesses will shut down like dominos falling.
Positioning of hands to hide the crotch area is only a very small part of what to look for, others are very tall, broad square shoulders, Adam's apples, very long arms / legs / square jaw line, big hands, big feet, deep voice and many more. SNIP.More broad and square shoulder ladyboys that I guess have fooled the entire world in thinking they were females. But I guess they can't fool some of us.
The expression he who laughs last, laughs best is a saying that means the final winner will have more glory than someone who was winning in the beginning but ultimately lost.
Not sure why 70% of the time they bleed on my dick.
New ones open, while old ones meet their end. Many hotels like LK Metro and other businesses like jewelry store, massage shops, and other nic nacs shops have their employees sell food to make ends meat. When your business isn't doing well, selling food is the last option of you can't sell the body. What that does is overflows the quickie meals market. That means it puts those who have depended on food carts and food stalls as a way of making a living and survival their entire lives in a competition with these businesses that normally don't sell 20-40 baht meals.
Advertising 200 baht for 2 large 12" pizza (11 choices) from 14:00-22:00. I ordered the margherita and seafood pizzas (don't eat meat when have other viable options). Thin crust, pizza could have stayed in oven a bit longer. Toppings warm but not hot. But still not bad for 100 baht each. Dine one and take away one is available. Not sure if take out is same price. Delivery is available but you have to pay for the motorbike.
More broad and square shoulder ladyboys that I guess have fooled the entire world in thinking they were females. But I guess they can't fool some of us.The third pic is Jessica Biel who is married to Justin Timberlake. I've often wondered if Timberlake knows he is married to a ladyboy.
P.S. Good to see the Teddy Bear is back.
The third pic is Jessica Biel who is married to Justin Timberlake. I've often wondered if Timberlake knows he is married to a ladyboy.
P.S. Good to see the Teddy Bear is back.Same with Kendall Jenner and Megan Fox (also Adam's apple) plus broad shoulders. I wonder why skinny girls who work out can't be a logical reason? Hey, but what do I know? Other notables with Adam's Apple are Mylie Cyrus, Halle Berry, and Paris Hilton plus a shit load of others. I guess, we have been fooled. I am so embarrassed. Should have listened to our experts. Anyways, the teddy bear is just trying to reach its magic number before it all gets shutdown here.
They are beginning change out the bricks on the sidewalk of the beach side of Beach Road. It's looking blue. Like I said before, my favorite color. Solidarity hanging message. Thanks dad.
New ones open, while old ones meet their end. Many hotels like LK Metro and other businesses like jewelry store, massage shops, and other nic nacs shops have their employees sell food to make ends meat. When your business isn't doing well, selling food is the last option of you can't sell the body. What that does is overflows the quickie meals market. That means it puts those who have depended on food carts and food stalls as a way of making a living and survival their entire lives in a competition with these businesses that normally don't sell 20-40 baht meals.Thanks. I don't care about the restaurants but enjoyed zooming in on your camera roll. 😉.
Keep teddy safe.
G.
I wanted to go easy on my stash of Sagamis L-size since BOOTS in Pattaya have not been restocking them since the lockdown started.
The plan was to go bareback every other day. My all-time Pattaya favourite declined, which pissed me off somewhat. I fell down on a cheaper, less good-looking girl who accepted provided I added 200 on top of her usual 1000.
The first barebacking was only 6 days ago and today I'm back from BHP hospital with a diagnosis of gonorrhoea (always have to call the spellchecker on that word). One shot in the buttock and a fourfold dose or oral azithromycin. I had done this girl covered many times before going bareback with her, including DATY, which warrants the conclusion that condoms are good protection and that oral contamination is negligible.
Lesson 1 : never assume a girl will go bareback with you no matter how long-standing and solid your relationship with her.
Lesson 2 : bareback promiscuity in this environment is a shitty hobby.
SNIP
I had done this girl covered many times before going bareback with her, including DATY, which warrants the conclusion that condoms are good protection and that oral contamination is negligible.
Lesson 1 : never assume a girl will go bareback with you no matter how long-standing and solid your relationship with her.
Lesson 2 : bareback promiscuity in this environment is a shitty hobby.Thank you XXL. What I've been saying all along. Dudes who encourage others to go bareback on hookers that fuck 500-1000 guys a year are as mental as the girls doing it. They act like BBFS is something so special in P4P. Reserved for the experts. What's more difficult to do? Getting BBFS in Thailand or resisting a girl who tells you "it's okay" to fuck her without a condom? I guarantee you it's the latter. If you can control that and say "no," you are one of the top dogs at this P4 P game. My ritual: BBBJ, 69 (inspecting), DATY, CFS with CIM or cum in condom. Thanks for keeping it real in Fantasy Island.
Thanks. I don't care about the restaurants but enjoyed zooming in on your camera roll. 😉.
G.555, me too.
Houston Player
06-09-20, 11:34
gonorrhoea (always have to call the spellchecker on that word)Haha you still misspelled it. Did you notice any Odor coming form her vagina? Bad smell can be a sign of bacterial infection, not foolproof but a sign to stay away.
Wrote this last night, and this article came out this morning. I think I hit the nail if the head. Others on here too, have mentioned this was the strategy all along for the Thais because if their "blame the farrangs" mentality. Especially, coming out of the Health Minister's mouth. China used to be #1 and have dropped to #14 with regards to COVID-19 and probably even further as time keeps passing by. Plus a nice clause would perhaps just limit those in Wuhan from travel and not the rest of China. SNIP
https://pattayaone.news/thailand-looking-at-quarantine-waiver-for-selected-tourists/Wrote that May 25th, and then this article comes out June 9th. Somebody is really good at peeping out the future. If I told you somebody predicted all this plague, uprising, and drama with the world 6-7 months even before the first case of COVID, what would you say?
"It doesn't have to be an entire country. We can allow visitors from towns or provinces which are free from the coronavirus. Travel restrictions will be gradually eased," he was quoted as saying in Bangkok Post."
https://thethaiger.com/news/national/thailand-news-today-tuesday-june-9
Pimpampoumpipo
06-09-20, 12:58
New ones open, while old ones meet their end. .Oooooh FritKot ! The best place I buy french fries in Pattaya ! Is the shop closed now ? Definitely ?
If FritKot is closed i don't go back to Pattaya.
Pimpampoumpipo
06-09-20, 13:01
Not sure why 70% of the time they bleed on my dick.lol its one of the reason I prefer fuck in massage shop and not in my bed.
Oooooh FritKot ! The best place I buy french fries in Pattaya .........Damn subliminal advertising. I now have a huge craving for french fries. Time to shut down this laptop and venture out.
Danny Duck
06-09-20, 16:44
I wanted to go easy on my stash of Sagamis L-size since BOOTS in Pattaya have not been restocking them since the lockdown started.
The plan was to go bareback every other day. My all-time Pattaya favourite declined, which pissed me off somewhat. I fell down on a cheaper, less good-looking girl who accepted provided I added 200 on top of her usual 1000.
The first barebacking was only 6 days ago and today I'm back from BHP hospital with a diagnosis of gonorrhoea (always have to call the spellchecker on that word). One shot in the buttock and a fourfold dose or oral azithromycin. I had done this girl covered many times before going bareback with her, including DATY, which warrants the conclusion that condoms are good protection and that oral contamination is negligible.
Lesson 1 : never assume a girl will go bareback with you no matter how long-standing and solid your relationship with her.
Lesson 2 : bareback promiscuity in this environment is a shitty hobby.Regarding lesson 1. We are and always will be customers. We are not their boyfriend's.
Wake up and smell the Corona.
If you like Drama they will give all you want.
Please use condoms.
Thank you XXL. What I've been saying all along. Dudes who encourage others to go bareback on hookers that fuck 500-1000 guys a year are as mental as the girls doing it. They act like BBFS is something so special in P4P. Reserved for the experts. What's more difficult to do? Getting BBFS in Thailand or resisting a girl who tells you "it's okay" to fuck her without a condom? I guarantee you it's the latter. If you can control that and say "no," you are one of the top dogs at this P4 P game. My ritual: BBBJ, 69 (inspecting), DATY, CFS with CIM or cum in condom. Thanks for keeping it real in Fantasy Island.Though I have never done BBFS with any hooker, ever, I get it why some prefer BBFS, some I guess just can't come with condom. But recommending it like some elite act is indeed absurd. It's just a big risk for guy, and for woman too if she's not on pills or taking precautions. No wonder Thailand has so many single moms. For someone who is thinking to go bareback sex by reading posts here, do it at your own risk.
Though I have never done BBFS with any hooker, ever, I get it why some prefer BBFS, some I guess just can't come with condom. But recommending it like some elite act is indeed absurd. It's just a big risk for guy, and for woman too if she's not on pills or taking precautions. No wonder Thailand has so many single moms. For someone who is thinking to go bareback sex by reading posts here, do it at your own risk.My take is that if they can sit there and jack themselves off with a condom on looking at porn, then they can cum with a condom during sex. It's 100% mental. Has anybody masturbated to a real steamy porn and only lasted like 15 seconds? But yet during sex can last so much longer? It's in the mind. Often, I have to fantasize that I'm some John (which I am), trying to get this dumb ass hooker pregnant by busting a nut in her pussy and then leaving her ass for the next girl. And that's how I manage to cum with a condom, aside from the gobs of 100% aloe vera gel instead of KY. Last girl I banged, condom snapped. I heard it and also felt it. She did not. It took me about 2 seconds to pull out, wash my dick, and had her suck me to a CIM finish in which she ate it all (thanks to pineapple juice). The risk is just not worth it because technically, what's the reward?
Pimpampoumpipo
06-09-20, 20:02
The first barebacking was only 6 days ago and today I'm back from BHP hospital with a diagnosis of gonorrhoea .8 times out of 10 when I didn't use a condom I came back with an STD. In Thailand as in the Philippines. I think I have had almost all of them except AIDS. Including labial and genital herpes.
Certainly in the meantime, between the girls, I was able to contaminate some of them myself without knowing it. Of course, from the moment I think I have been infected, I sent messages to my last partners to tell them, but I doubt that they will carry out analyzes themselves and even less that they warn their partners.
Once I even had to be hospitalized on my return in Paris, I had swelling of the joints of the feet and especially the hands, I thought it was a rheumatoid arthritis, I had to consult an emergency specialist.
And the problem is, girls can be asymptomatic, so you can't even guess that they're sick. But the disease is on the rise in men.
Member #4698
06-09-20, 20:13
8 times out of 10 when I didn't use a condom I came back with an STD. In Thailand as in the Philippines. I think your personal stat says more about your choice of girls and where you pick them up than the overall statistical probabilities of catching an STD in LOS or the PI. 80%, man that is REALLY HIGH! It is not even close to my 0. 00 percentage. And I would dare say I have shagged/barebacked at least as many Thai and Filipina girls as you.
You are either choosing very badly or you have amazingly bad luck. Ha Ha. I agree, you should wear a condom. And this is not a personal jab. At times I wear condoms too and at other times I don't. It depends on the girl (her physical appearance & vibe), where I found her, her attitude on the subject, and my gut instincts. For example, I can only remember barebacking one cute little SW on Burgos. But, I have barebacked many Go Go girls, BKK Soapy Massage girls, Jakarta Bordello girls, and 5 * hotel FL pick up girls. Again I don't bareback all of them, just the ones I feel comfortable doing that way.
Pimpampoumpipo
06-09-20, 20:27
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You are either choosing very badly or you have amazingly bad luck. Ha Ha. I agree, you should wear a condom.It is true that I do not take ugly so they must be very solicited.
Where are you going to take them? On beach road?
Member #4698
06-09-20, 20:30
It is true that I do not take ugly so they must be very solicited.
Where are you going to take them? On beach road?You jest. HA! Read the additional paragraph in my edited post on where I source girls.
NatureBoy92
06-09-20, 21:55
More broad and square shoulder ladyboys that I guess have fooled the entire world in thinking they were females. But I guess they can't fool some of us.I would like to add Courtney Cox to the list.
Arn Poddict
06-10-20, 00:30
I think your personal stat says more about your choice of girls and where you pick them up than the overall statistical probabilities of catching an STD in LOS or the PI. 80%, man that is REALLY HIGH! It is not even close to my 0. 00 percentage. And I would dare say I have shagged/barebacked at least as many Thai and Filipina girls as you.
You are either choosing very badly or you have amazingly bad luck. Ha Ha. I agree, you should wear a condom. And this is not a personal jab. At times I wear condoms too and at other times I don't. It depends on the girl (her physical appearance & vibe), where I found her, her attitude on the subject, and my gut instincts. For example, I can only remember barebacking one cute little SW on Burgos. But, I have barebacked many Go Go girls, BKK Soapy Massage girls, Jakarta Bordello girls, and 5 * hotel FL pick up girls. Again I don't bareback all of them, just the ones I feel comfortable doing that way.You must have a silver cock since you don't catch anything despite fucking hookers raw all these years. Man you are blessed by the mongering god of bareback riders. How do you select the hookers who have STD free appearance and vibe? Can you see from the girl's face if she carries something bad? Can you smell it from her breath? Do you just ask them "Honey, do you have any sexually transmitted diseases that I should be concerned?" And when they say "noo, have not" then you throw the condom to the corner and let the barebacking games begin. Please share this valuable information with us.
Personally I would love to fuck a working girl without condom for a change but somehow it just seems like a pretty fucking stupid idea to me. With my luck I would end up in a STD clinic very soon like XXL and have a G-Tip dipped into the eye of the one eyed snake and a clap diagnosis to begin with. Maybe a Syphilis as a bonus, that one is a nasty little bugger. Followed by HIV eventually and that would cramp my style. Maybe when I get older (60+) I don't give a shit anymore about those diseases and fuck bareback like there is no tomorrow. But not today, not today.
Should there really be homeless people when there are empty hotels and condos everywhere? The irony in that.
I wanted to go easy on my stash of Sagamis L-size since BOOTS in Pattaya have not been restocking them since the lockdown started.
The plan was to go bareback every other day. My all-time Pattaya favourite declined, which pissed me off somewhat. I fell down on a cheaper, less good-looking girl who accepted provided I added 200 on top of her usual 1000.
The first barebacking was only 6 days ago and today I'm back from BHP hospital with a diagnosis of gonorrhoea (always have to call the spellchecker on that word). One shot in the buttock and a fourfold dose or oral azithromycin. I had done this girl covered many times before going bareback with her, including DATY, which warrants the conclusion that condoms are good protection and that oral contamination is negligible.
Lesson 1 : never assume a girl will go bareback with you no matter how long-standing and solid your relationship with her.
Lesson 2 : bareback promiscuity in this environment is a shitty hobby.Sorry to hear you had that problem, XXL. Does that mean you will never again go bareback or just that you will chalk it up as a bump in the road you are willing to deal with in this hobby and move on as before?
What you attempted to do with your long term repeat girl is one of the heaviest lifts in the P4P world, imo. So it isn't surprising her answer was No. Asking (and getting) an upfront agreement to go bareback from a notably above average looking young Thai female under circumstances where she is sober, has plenty of time to think about it and many other options at her disposal, not "go with the flow in the room", not after she reeled drunk out of a bar at 4am and so on, is not something most punters would even dare try.
The only thing more of a challenge than what you tried with your long term girl would be if you had requested that upfront agreement on meeting her for the first time. That move is definitely not for faint of heart punters.
BTW, I think it might be fairly easy to get gonorrhea orally and have met a couple of men who said they got it that way via DATY in either Thailand or the Philippines. Although, for whatever reason, my percentage of times getting an STD from going bareback for 45+ years with thousands of women and engaging in a monumental amount of DATY and BBBJ along the way is similar to Natty's 0.00%. But maybe mine is something like 0.001% because I did catch a dose of easily cured trichomoniasis from a university girlfriend in my early 20's.
My take is that if they can sit there and jack themselves off with a condom on looking at porn, then they can cum with a condom during sex. It's 100% mental. Has anybody masturbated to a real steamy porn and only lasted like 15 seconds? But yet during sex can last so much longer? It's in the mind. Often, I have to fantasize that I'm some John (which I am), trying to get this dumb ass hooker pregnant by busting a nut in her pussy and then leaving her ass for the next girl. And that's how I manage to cum with a condom, aside from the gobs of 100% aloe vera gel instead of KY. Last girl I banged, condom snapped. I heard it and also felt it. She did not. It took me about 2 seconds to pull out, wash my dick, and had her suck me to a CIM finish in which she ate it all (thanks to pineapple juice). The risk is just not worth it because technically, what's the reward?Pretty much 100% agree with what you said. Another point made by a monger couple of posts back, is age. If someone is 60-70+, they might be more inclined to go bareback. What's thr worst case, die with STD in 70's?
On breaking condom, that doesn't happen much with me. But just last month it broke and I didn't felt it until I made 5-6 more strokes. Took it out and bang, it was broken. Hmm I should've cleaned it first, but I just put another condom, added some lube on her pussy and my rubber and continued LOL. Though I washed it with more attention than usual after finishing. She was massage shop girl, I guess they get tested regularly.
Pretty much 100% agree with what you said. Another point made by a monger couple of posts back, is age. If someone is 60-70+, they might be more inclined to go bareback. What's thr worst case, die with STD in 70's?.That means they have not learn what it means to empathize, even at that golden age of supposed "wisdom. " Those are the type that really has the "all about me, myself, and I" mentality. What about passing that shit around and can lead to deformed babies and shit. But let me guess, that's the female's responsibility. The ones with true ego always have a reckoning to deal with in the end.
What you attempted to do with your long term repeat girl is one of the heaviest lifts in the P4P world, imo. So it isn't surprising her answer was No.....I beg to differ:
Why is she a long term repeat if she is not performing required duties?
BBFS is hardly the holy grail worthy of hooker worship or unlimited compensation. If it's a requirement and one girl won't provide, just move onto another that will.
How definite was her 'no'? I'm all for respecting girls' limits but if she was just testing the water is she really prepared to lose a good customer over it?
Cheers. G.
Mr Enternational
06-10-20, 06:23
Should there really be homeless people when there are empty hotels and condos everywhere? The irony in that.No irony in it if you consider why the people are homeless. Is it simply because they could not afford a place to stay as I would say is not the case of most? More than likely there is some other underlying issue. Is it because they burned their house down after smoking meth as the guy in Chonburi did the other day? Is it because they gamble away all the money that comes into their hands? I certainly would not want anyone living in a place of mine who was not going to respect and take care of the place. I had to put my own brother out because he was so messy and never wanted to clean up; so a stranger would not stand a chance. And if a person has family that will not allow them to stay at their place then those red flags must be considered.
Just like back home in the USA when people say how unfair the system is. My first question is did you go to school and do all your homework and study and do all that you were supposed to do. Usually the people complaining are not those that have painstakingly followed the prescribed methodology. At some point personal responsibility has to be taken as to why one has not been able to gain any traction or why one does not have a place to stay. You can't just fuck off the entire time then decide you are entitled to something that you have not earned while others around you have been busy earning what they have.
I love my closest cousin very dearly, talk to him almost every day, and he is one of my best friends. Hell, I even took part of his GED test for him back in 1989 so he could go to the Marines. Now he is almost 50 years old and has fucked off most of his life doing nothing. (When he was married his wife even gave him money for him to live in Pattaya and he fucked that off as well.) A few months ago he had a disagreement with his mom and asked if he could come stay at my place. My answer was no fucking way. If you are almost 50 and don't have your own place by now then there is nobody to blame but yourself. Nobody is about to lay up in my shit doing nothing while I am out working hard to pay for it.
How definite was her 'no'? I'm all for respecting girls' limits but if she was just testing the water is she really prepared to lose a good customer over it?
Cheers. G.You're just assuming that she has lack of other customers who are happy to do covered sex and pay. Even during lockdown and no tourists, I have seen hookers inbox on dating sites filled with 100's of dudes like us for meeting.
Even during lockdown and no tourists, I have seen hookers inbox on dating sites filled with 100's of dudes like us for meeting.Very true but how many of those inbox wanabees actually make the trip and are standing in front of her with 3 k in his wallet?
G.
P.S. The whole message a month before arrival vs only when in country is a whole other debate. 😁.
Enjoy. G.
I beg to differ:
Why is she a long term repeat if she is not performing required duties?
BBFS is hardly the holy grail worthy of hooker worship or unlimited compensation. If it's a requirement and one girl won't provide, just move onto another that will.
How definite was her 'no'? I'm all for respecting girls' limits but if she was just testing the water is she really prepared to lose a good customer over it?
Cheers. G.This girl certainly valued me as a regular customer because she always had time for me. Only once did she ask if she could come 1 hour earlier than my usual time, otherwise she just agreed to come when I wanted. She was probably not desperate for customers because she hardly ever (only once if I remember right) sent me a message to try and bring about a new meeting. She only reacted when prompted. I remember once the condom had broken and she hadn't seemed to give a damn.
The girl I ill-fatedly barebacked on the other hand hardly let a day go by without initiating. A different degree of desperateness was at play. I had sensed this and that was why I fell back on her for barebacking, on the rebound so to speak after my Number One turned me down. My mistake.
She was massage shop girl, I guess they get tested regularly.You're guessing wrong. Each shop have their own rules.
In most places they might get them tested when they start working there and that's it.
Unless it's a shop that advertise it as for the DD shop in Pattaya when they put each girls test on their website and they say they test them every month, but even then you cannot trust their tests.
I beg to differ:
Why is she a long term repeat if she is not performing required duties?
BBFS is hardly the holy grail worthy of hooker worship or unlimited compensation. If it's a requirement and one girl won't provide, just move onto another that will.
How definite was her 'no'? I'm all for respecting girls' limits but if she was just testing the water is she really prepared to lose a good customer over it?
Cheers. G.Of course, all anyone has to do is move on to the next one who will.
But I submit that a customer who wants an upfront agreement to go bareback with (the qualifiers I cited) a sober, notably above average looking young Thai girl under circumstances where she has plenty of time to think about it and plenty of other options available to her at the moment, is a customer who is going to be moving on a lot more often and engaged in the hunt a lot longer than the customer who is fine with an older or middling looking (or less) Thai woman, catches her as she is stumbling out of a bar at 4am and commences a "go with the flow in the room" approach with someone who very well might be so out of it by then no intelligent discussion about anything is necessary or even possible.
Imo, the former qualifies as a much heavier lift for any punter than the latter with the additional moving on and continued hunt being the "lift."
This girl certainly valued me as a regular customer because she always had time for me. Only once did she ask if she could come 1 hour earlier than my usual time, otherwise she just agreed to come when I wanted. She was probably not desperate for customers because she hardly ever (only once if I remember right) sent me a message to try and bring about a new meeting. She only reacted when prompted. I remember once the condom had broken and she hadn't seemed to give a damn.Just offer her to go and get tested together at the clinic if you want to bareback her. She will probably accept it.
girl I ill-fatedly barebacked on the other hand hardly let a day go by without initiating. A different degree of desperateness was at play. I had sensed this and that was why I fell back on her for barebacking, on the rebound so to speak after my Number One turned me down. My mistake.You cannot know which girl will give you a disease unless you really know if she is infectious or what she is doing when she is not with you and which kind of guys she is meeting but that's a different story. In that case you've probably just been unlucky.
Once I was staying with the same girl in Pattaya for more than two weeks. She gave me numerous BBBJ during that time but it's only a day before my departure that she infected me.
She just changed the way she gave me her BJ and that was it, that got my urethra infected.
Later I learned that it happened to other guys she had fucked and she knew she was giving the disease to other people but she was acting as if she was clean.
So don't count on these girls to be cautious or ethical, they will just hide whatever they can, fuck any guy they want and take the money.
Pimpampoumpipo
06-10-20, 11:50
When I have had too much to drink, I may skip the condoms although I know it is just a huge mistake. Afterwards, I still really get mad at myself for playing so badly with my health. Then I go through bad days and bad nights wondering if I haven't caught a disease that can be serious. And unfortunately my experience has already proved me right.
Not putting a condom with prostitutes in a city like Pattaya or Angeles City is like playing Russian roulette with 5 bullets in the barrel of the revolver.
When I have had too much to drink, I may skip the condoms although I know it is just a huge mistake. Afterwards, I still really get mad at myself for playing so badly with my health. Then I go through bad days and bad nights wondering if I haven't caught a disease that can be serious. And unfortunately my experience has already proved me right.
Not putting a condom with prostitutes in a city like Pattaya or Angeles City is like playing Russian roulette with 5 bullets in the barrel of the revolver.I suspect dishonesty of anyone who says they barebacked in Angeles City and did not pick up something.
Member #4698
06-10-20, 15:22
I suspect dishonesty of anyone who says they barebacked in Angeles City and did not pick up something.Why would real BM's lie about something as occupational as catching an STD? You catch it, you take care of it, and then you post a trip report about it if you want to. It can happen to anybody. It's no big deal. There is no stigma. But you, Turgid, or whatever other fake handle you like to use, I have a question for you: have you ever been to AC? or Pattaya?
Banana Boi
06-10-20, 15:45
Not putting a condom with prostitutes in a city like Pattaya or Angeles City is like playing Russian roulette with 5 bullets in the barrel of the revolver.I say the risk is much higher in the Germany AO clubs where girls go through 20 customers per day and get creampied by 20 guys at once in those gangbang clubs. Even popular girls at normal FKK clubs like Acapulco do BBFS.
I don't know PI but I know Pattaya gogo girls will do max 2 guys per night but the majority are lucky to get 1 guy.
But you, Turgid, or whatever other fake handle you like to use, I have a question for you: have you ever been to AC? or Pattaya?:-0.
Pimpampoumpipo
06-10-20, 16:07
I say the risk is much higher in the Germany AO clubs where girls go through 20 customers per day and get creampied by 20 guys at once in those gangbang clubs. Even popular girls at normal FKK clubs like Acapulco do BBFS.
I don't know PI but I know Pattaya gogo girls will do max 2 guys per night but the majority are lucky to get 1 guy.
Ok. I don't know the clubs in Germany (but I would like to know :-) But I suppose that the health record of the girls is better controlled than in Thailand or in the Phils where they claim to have to analyze STDs regularly and that I could never see despite my requests.
I no longer remember in which post on ISG someone said that a girl could go with more than 500 men in a year (or something like that) which seems quite realistic to me. It still leaves a lot of chance of getting infected.
Well sometimes its just that once you catch an STD like lets say HPV, you produce anti bodies and become kind of immune to it for the rest of your life. Still no excuse for going bareback but chances of catching same std again reduces a lot.
You must have a silver cock since you don't catch anything despite fucking hookers raw all these years. Man you are blessed by the mongering god of bareback riders. How do you select the hookers who have STD free appearance and vibe? Can you see from the girl's face if she carries something bad? Can you smell it from her breath? Do you just ask them "Honey, do you have any sexually transmitted diseases that I should be concerned?" And when they say "noo, have not" then you throw the condom to the corner and let the barebacking games begin. Please share this valuable information with us.
Personally I would love to fuck a working girl without condom for a change but somehow it just seems like a pretty fucking stupid idea to me. With my luck I would end up in a STD clinic very soon like XXL and have a G-Tip dipped into the eye of the one eyed snake and a clap diagnosis to begin with. Maybe a Syphilis as a bonus, that one is a nasty little bugger. Followed by HIV eventually and that would cramp my style. Maybe when I get older (60+) I don't give a shit anymore about those diseases and fuck bareback like there is no tomorrow. But not today, not today.
Christian G
06-10-20, 17:36
But you, Turgid, or whatever other fake handle you like to use, I have a question for you: have you ever been to AC? or Pattaya?555.
I say the risk is much higher in the Germany AO clubs where girls go through 20 customers per day and get creampied by 20 guys at once in those gangbang clubs. At the gang bang parties like Spermagames probably the get creampied by 50-70 guys, I read these parties were overcrowded. At least they had quick HIV test on duty. LOL.
Also, I don't have much faith in the medical tests that RTC girls do or not.
I no longer remember in which post on ISG someone said that a girl could go with more than 500 men in a year (or something like that) which seems quite realistic to me. It still leaves a lot of chance of getting infected.
I remember back in 2010 some superstars in soi6 claimed to have 10 STs a day in high season. One famous girl in Devils Den told me that she thinks she has had over 5000 partners in her career.
DzikaBomba
06-10-20, 17:36
I suspect dishonesty of anyone who says they barebacked in Angeles City and did not pick up something.I lost Control last year when I was in AC and fucked every FL I meet raw through two weeks. Often multiple per day.
I had some kind of crisis, because I didn't cared at all.
Two days before my departure I get some candida from a SW who was standing outside of kokomos. She immediately jumped on me raw in my room. After I pulled out I had a bad smell on my dick and I was already sure I caught something. Took care of that by myself.
I was tested at home and had nothing more.
I guess I was very lucky, because it could be much worse.
I don't plan to repeat that.
I suspect dishonesty of anyone who says they barebacked in Angeles City and did not pick up something.Interesting. I was kind of taken aback by someone claiming they wound up with an STD "8 times out of 10" when they didn't use a condom in Thailand. And that it was so bad it required hospitalization at least once and always meant he had to call the girls he sessioned with to tell them about it and all that.
Good lord. I think if I caught an STD 2 times out of 10 trips to a destination that required me to be hospitalized I might stop having bareback sex altogether, which for me means no more fucking, and certainly never return to that destination again on the less than off chance that I'd probably catch something pretty serious there just from BJs, HJs and DFK.
Not saying an 80% STD infection rate is impossible since I have no idea what style of sexual congress we're talking about. I mean, perhaps some extreme porn type sessions over and over again with girls who engage in that with different customers every day could bring it up to and even beyond that rate.
Still, that is an awful lot of dreary follow up phone calls I'm glad I have never had to make even once. And I assume a few of those calls were picked up by girls who themselves were by then already laying in hospital beds as well. Wow. What a mess.
So you didn't have any clue about the girl until your dick was in her "vagina" ? Yikes!, But let me ask you a question: then how did you finally discover her vagina was man made and not just super cavernous?...Her vagina never got wet during the whole session. It felt like I was having a session with a doll. It was surreal. I had many doubts when I first met her in the street, and I asked her several times whether she was a ladyboy. But she was eye candy, and I just could not pass up that opportunity. BTW, I saw her again on that same street later but never got the urge to repeat.
Yep, they are right all around the world. Too many police doing what? They forget what their job is really about. Who will you call when somebody breaks in your house at night? Get an alarm system. Can't afford one, then the government makes them free. It's that simple. Pattaya beach. No trash cans, so people litter all in the recycling bin for plastic bottles. In front of you know who and their station.
P.S.: Root cause analysis. If there is no such things as check writing (pretty unnecessary) in a modern society. George would probably still be here.
Crocodilexp
06-11-20, 17:42
Her vagina never got wet during the whole session.Some women just don't get wet. I once had a Thai girlfriend with this problem. She's definitely a female, recently gave birth.
.......... But you, Turgid, or whatever other fake handle you like to use, I have a question for you: have you ever been to AC? or Pattaya?I have, in the past, read your posts and lately I've noticed you resorting to ad hominem retorts which seem so unlike you. I think we are all hurting with this covid 19 imbroglio. Hang in there, it'll soon be over.
Interesting. I was kind of taken aback by someone claiming they wound up with an STD "8 times out of 10" when they didn't use a condom in Thailand. And that it was so bad it required hospitalization at least once and always meant he had to call the girls he sessioned with to tell them about it and all that.............My observation is that many guys on this forum tend to have internet bravado. For example: "I spent 3 weeks in.....and banged 20 girls a week". If another dude says that he banged 3 girls a week I would tend to give that more credence. Similarly if a poster says he got stds 8 out of 10 times he barebacked, why would he put himself down like that? I naturally tend to believe such a statement. Consequently, I would be quite quizzical if some one says he had bareback sex with 100's of girls in SEA and never got an std.
Member #4698
06-11-20, 22:30
I have, in the past, read your posts and lately I've noticed you resorting to ad hominem retorts which seem so unlike you. I think we are all hurting with this covid 19 imbroglio. Hang in there, it'll soon be over.There was a post a few days ago from a very unlucky BM who stated that he contacted an STD "8 times out of 10" whenever he didn't use a condom" in Thailand & in the Philippines. He went on to post that "I think I have had almost all of them except AIDS. Including labial and genital herpes."
Now I didn't question his integrity like you did mine when I reported my own STD history of 0. 00 incidence which I divulged btw solely as empirical evidence to emphasize the truth that an 80% incident rate is exceedingly HIGH, way above the average expected rate, and that to achieve such a high 80% rate of infection, the OP was either extremely unlucky, which is absolutely possible in a statistical sense or he was hooking up with some real unsavory girls. It is either one or the other or both. Take your pick. It's like shooting snake eyes 8 out of 10 times in a row. It is either really bad luck or crooked dice.
If you took offense in what I posted to the OP or to "Turgid", so be it. Maybe you should put me on your ignore list or just don't imply directly or indirectly I lied about something unless you have real good proof to back it up.
HorseTrader
06-11-20, 23:48
...Similarly if a poster says he got stds 8 out of 10 times he barebacked, why would he put himself down like that? I naturally tend to believe such a statement. Consequently, I would be quite quizzical if some one says he had bareback sex with 100's of girls in SEA and never got an std.I don't believe either of those extremes, but I do believe each punter has his own vulnerability to chlamydia, gonorrhea, or other STDs. The man who lies in bed for an hour after bareback sex might have a different level of problems than the man who immediately gets up, washes, and takes a piss. Picking up the homely bar girl who gets just 1 date per week might be different than the hottie who gets 2 or 3 dates per day. Baltimore has a punter who use to post many videos of him going bareback with every drug addicted streetwalker in the city. He said he never got an STD, but he also said he had frequent antibiotics for sinus problems, which could have saved him a great deal of bacteria problems.
Then, there are those of us who have STDs but don't realize it because we are asymptomatic. That may be common with herpes.
I don't believe either of those extremes, but I do believe each punter has his own vulnerability to chlamydia, gonorrhea, or other STDs. The man who lies in bed for an hour after bareback sex might have a different level of problems than the man who immediately gets up, washes, and takes a piss. Picking up the homely bar girl who gets just 1 date per week might be different than the hottie who gets 2 or 3 dates per day. Baltimore has a punter who use to post many videos of him going bareback with every drug addicted streetwalker in the city. He said he never got an STD, but he also said he had frequent antibiotics for sinus problems, which could have saved him a great deal of bacteria problems.
Then, there are those of us who have STDs but don't realize it because we are asymptomatic. That may be common with herpes.I think there are important factors that can greatly reduce ones infection rate. At least, I have done them and it seems to have worked out well for me so far.
Washing and pissing soon after sex is a must. I never just roll over and go to sleep. I am also circumcised, have had a vasectomy (for pregnancy prevention, nothing to do with STD infection prevention), try to avoid prolonged rougher than normal sex, make sure the lady is well lubed (virtually always naturally, not from a tube), have no interest in Anal or any other butt play and am mindful of any visible or extremely odorous signs of trouble in the girl's vagina, which I will find out soon in the session since DATY is high on my to-do list early and often.
I would say I have had plenty of girls who are so popular they have no problem getting multiple customers per day or could get another boyfriend by noon if I broke up with them at dawn. And a few homely ones here and there as well. But I do avoid highly intoxicated women. Maybe that is an important factor in avoiding infection problems, don't know. Women who get drunk regularly or need to get drunk before sex probably make some fairly imprudent choices in terms of partners and activities along the way. But that isn't why I avoid them. In my experience highly intoxicated women make lousy sex partners.
I don't use or over use antibiotics or take any other medications ordinarily except 1 baby aspirin per day.
Anyway, I am not saying do this or that and you too can have an STD free life of barebacking thousands of different women. In fact, I don't encourage anyone to go bareback, never seen anyone else here encouraging it. Well, I might have once suggested a vasectomy in order to feel better about going bareback with his girls to another older punter here who posted field reports that seemed to me required him to risk a massive coronary event to squeeze out the extremely allusive and rare pop in a condom.
But I think men who follow those and perhaps other logical precautions, keep themselves pretty healthy in general and are not unlucky enough to be born susceptible to any and all ailments or bugs that come near them could spend a lifetime barebacking various partners, even hundreds of them, and wind up with something a lot closer to a 0.00% STD infection rate than an 80% STD infection rate.
I meet a lot of old punters in Thailand who have made the rounds and barebacked most of the time along the way who claim they have never gotten a dose if any of the biggies and most recognizable STDs. I really have no reason to think they are lying to me. They are not shy about talking about anything else that's happened to them or that they've done in life.
Pimpampoumpipo
06-12-20, 13:06
Firstly I want to clarify that I am of impeccable cleanliness, I take 5 or 6 showers a day when I am in Pattaya or AC because it is hot and I take meticulous showers before and immediately after absolutely all my sexual intercourses even when I use condoms.
Secondly, the ratio of 8 out of 10 is not the result of scientific observation, but rather a feeling, just as the outside temperature can be felt differently from the temperature seen on the thermometer.
At last, the unit of measurement for this 8 out of 10 is not girls but travels. So you have to read 8 out of 10 trips and not 8 out of 10 girls. Knowing that I fuck between 2 and 3 times a day, that I change partners almost every time, that I travel almost every month mainly in Thailand and the Philippines.
In any case thank you all for caring so much about my health ^^
Firstly I want to clarify that I am of impeccable cleanliness, I take 5 or 6 showers a day when I am in Pattaya or AC because it is hot and I take meticulous showers before and immediately after absolutely all my sexual intercourses even when I use condoms.
Secondly, the ratio of 8 out of 10 is not the result of scientific observation, but rather a feeling, just as the outside temperature can be felt differently from the temperature seen on the thermometer.
At last, the unit of measurement for this 8 out of 10 is not girls but travels. So you have to read 8 out of 10 trips and not 8 out of 10 girls. Knowing that I fuck between 2 and 3 times a day, that I change partners almost every time, that I travel almost every month mainly in Thailand and the Philippines.
In any case thank you all for caring so much about my health ^^I have never knowingly met another poster on ISG but I do genuinely care about the health and well being of each and every one on here. Their health and safety is somewhat related to my health and safety. Chances are that ISG posters meet the same women I have relations with albeit within the security of a condom.
Mr Enternational
06-12-20, 14:52
Secondly, the ratio of 8 out of 10 is not the result of scientific observation, but rather a feeling, I know what you mean. Last month I felt I had polio.
Pimpampoumpipo
06-12-20, 15:19
Their health and safety is somewhat related to my health and safety. Chances are that ISG posters meet the same women I have relations with albeit within the security of a condom.That's exactly what I told myself.
When I saw the number of people riding bareback, I am even more motivated to put on condoms ^^
Pimpampoumpipo
06-12-20, 15:34
I know what you mean. Last month I felt I had polio.I was talking about the ratio not of the disease. Sorry you didn't understand.
My English is not very good.
That's exactly what I told myself.
When I saw the number of people riding bareback, I am even more motivated to put on condoms..Please feel motivated to put this bareback talk in the safe sex thread also.
Pimpampoumpipo
06-12-20, 20:03
Please feel motivated to put this bareback talk in the safe sex thread also.Thank you for your interest Paolo99.
I did not find "safe sex" thread despite my research. Thank you for communicating it to me.
Anyway, I do not make any generality, I just replied to posts on "Pattaya reports" thread. It is contextualized on the environment of Pattaya with possibly an extension on an identical city (AC for example).
There are many threads on ISG and necessarily there can be redundancies and / or parallel subjects, it is inevitable. I speak under the control of the moderator (who can contradict me) but 1) it is not possible to duplicate posts on as many threads as there can be correspondence and 2) it is difficult to cut out a response of a thread to place it in the correct response thread. I think the main thing is to keep the sense and understanding of the dialogue.
At last, I'm not taking the side of "safe sex", everyone makes their choices and takes their own risks. I'm just sharing about my own little experience.
Finally, after my 9 or so years mongering in Thailand. I found a GoGo Bar girl (Dolls Agogo) willing to fuck for 800 baht ST. I got so excited, I LINEd Mr. E and told him and XXL of my gem. Not sure if I will partake, because I like to mess around on ThaiFriendlly while taking a shit. And this one took the bait while I was bored and dropping bombs, entertaining myself while on the throne of mankind. So all those who doubted Mr. E that stuff like this doesn't happen, it happened. And to Monkeypaw at that. Must be the end of the world.
ChronoTrigger
06-13-20, 19:11
Knowing that I fuck between 2 and 3 times a day..Where do you get the libedo to do that? Is it practice? (the more you fuck then the more you fuck rule). Are you 18 yo and just discovering sex for the 1st time? You take Viagra or brem? Do you go for exceptionally hot women that override your normal reload time? Or are you OK with the sex not being much fun and not finishing every time?
Of course I enjoy sex a lot but my reload time is about 36 hours. Trying to do sex every 8 hours: to finish would be become hard physical and mental work rather than blissful fun.
On my 2 week holidays to Pattaya I aim for sex once a day, but usually by day 3 the thrill is gone and by day 5 I really need a day off. I'm middle aged, I was able to finish 5 times a day when I was teenager: It'd be good to have those days back, when such fun was easy and free.
Pimpampoumpipo
06-13-20, 19:47
Finally, after my 9 or so years mongering in Thailand. I found a GoGo Bar girl (Dolls Agogo) willing to fuck for 800 baht ST. I got so excited, I LINEd Mr. E and told him and XXL of my gem. Not sure if I will partake, because I like to mess around on ThaiFriendlly while taking a shit. And this one took the bait while I was bored and dropping bombs, entertaining myself while on the throne of mankind. So all those who doubted Mr. E that stuff like this doesn't happen, it happened. And to Monkeypaw at that. Must be the end of the world.You got us used to better. No wonder it costs you only 800 Baths.
Is that the discount prices of Mr Enternational?
I prefer when you go to karaoke.
Finally, after my 9 or so years mongering in Thailand. I found a GoGo Bar girl (Dolls Agogo) willing to fuck for 800 baht ST. I got so excited, I LINEd Mr. E and told him and XXL of my gem. Not sure if I will partake, because I like to mess around on ThaiFriendlly while taking a shit. And this one took the bait while I was bored and dropping bombs, entertaining myself while on the throne of mankind. So all those who doubted Mr. E that stuff like this doesn't happen, it happened. And to Monkeypaw at that. Must be the end of the world.I might even go as high as 1 k for her! But these are desparate times.
I might even go as high as 1 k for her! But these are desparate times.Right now the few very sexy gogos girls who stay in Pattaya during the confinement go very easily with expatriates for 1000ST. My friend who lives in Pattaya told me right now he fuck the most lovely sexy ladies of Pattaya for 1000ST bareback! These girls who asked before 3000 to 5000 for ST in gogos in WS or SOI LK fuck very easily for 1000. Like my friend say, there is nobody in Patt now, ot's better for these girls to get 1000 than nothing! Only few girls ask him between 200 to 500 more for bareback!
He told me now he fuck the sexy girls everyday, and love to do BRFS and CIP.
Danny Duck
06-13-20, 22:14
Finally, after my 9 or so years mongering in Thailand. I found a GoGo Bar girl (Dolls Agogo) willing to fuck for 800 baht ST. I got so excited, I LINEd Mr. E and told him and XXL of my gem. Not sure if I will partake, because I like to mess around on ThaiFriendlly while taking a shit. And this one took the bait while I was bored and dropping bombs, entertaining myself while on the throne of mankind. So all those who doubted Mr. E that stuff like this doesn't happen, it happened. And to Monkeypaw at that. Must be the end of the world.I doubt she gets many takers at 3,000 baht at her regular place of business.
A few I know are a lot prettier have a hard time. It's Pattaya for Buddha's sake.
Thank you for your interest Paolo99.
I did not find "safe sex" thread despite my research. Thank you for communicating it to me.
Anyway, I do not make any generality, I just replied to posts on "Pattaya reports" thread. It is contextualized on the environment of Pattaya with possibly an extension on an identical city (AC for example).
There are many threads on ISG and necessarily there can be redundancies and / or parallel subjects, it is inevitable. I speak under the control of the moderator (who can contradict me) but 1) it is not possible to duplicate posts on as many threads as there can be correspondence and 2) it is difficult to cut out a response of a thread to place it in the correct response thread. I think the main thing is to keep the sense and understanding of the dialogue.
At last, I'm not taking the side of "safe sex", everyone makes their choices and takes their own risks. I'm just sharing about my own little experience.At the risk of stating the obvious, but "bareback talk" is not really a subject that generally needs to be confined to a Safe Sex thread. It might not even belong in a Safe Sex thread much at all unless it is a side discussion about the perceived evils of it or something like that.
Otherwise, it isn't as though someone here would visit a Safe Sex thread in order to find out about the best pharmacies to shop in and the lowest prices to pay for condoms in order to engage in bareback sex.
Bareback FS sex is simply another service one can negotiate and either get or not get with any P4P girl anywhere in the world including Thailand right along with DFK, Anal, Rimming, BBBJ, BBBJ+CIM, BBBJ+CIM+Swallow, etc. There is nothing illegal, immoral, unethical or evil about it as long as it is agreed to between or among consenting adults.
Despite its spelled out absence on a typical massage shop or escort service menu of offerings, I dare say it is willingly agreed to and engaged in among more Thai P4P girls and their customers than Anal or Rimming, possibly even more than DFK, definitely more than BBBJ+CIM+Swallow.
Imo, where and how to get it more easily and more frequently in a way most agreeable to both (or more) consenting adults is a subject perfectly suitable for the Pattaya Reports thread, Bangkok Reports thread and any other thread where the topic of sexual services is discussed.
I might even go as high as 1 k for her! But these are desparate times.Like I said, I play around with girls on TF, just like I do at the GoGo bars. I like messing with their heads sometimes. She can go down to 500 baht or less, I am not going to jump. I still can do better. Not about money all the time when it comes to getting what I want. Why settle when you don't have to?
P.S. I've seen magic. If she threw in some contacts, do her make up differently, suck in that stomach. Trim her eyebrows. Maybe a whole diff story.
RainmanSahut
06-14-20, 03:37
Pattaya Days May Be Numbered.
https://www.pattayamail.com/news/pattaya-revives-25-year-battle-to-demolish-walking-street-303891
Hopefully a No Go.
Rainman.
RainmanSahut
06-14-20, 04:25
Pattaya Days May Be Numbered.
https://www.pattayamail.com/news/pattaya-revives-25-year-battle-to-demolish-walking-street-303891
Hopefully a No Go.
Rainman.
At the risk of stating the obvious, but "bareback talk" is not really a subject that generally needs to be confined to a Safe Sex thread. It might not even belong in a Safe Sex thread .............Dictionary.com : "safe sex - noun - sexual activities in which precautions have been taken, as by the use of a condom, to minimize the chances of spreading or contracting a sexually transmitted disease".
As most of the other businesses are failing or closed, Treetown (police owned) has pretty much cornered all the remaining foreign dollars. No social distancing, no masks, public drinking and partying. Pretty much a block party every night with hookers. If you guys come down from BKK, this is where you will be hanging.
Dictionary.com : "safe sex - noun - sexual activities in which precautions have been taken, as by the use of a condom, to minimize the chances of spreading or contracting a sexually transmitted disease".Exactly. Which makes the case for there being no logical reason to confine "bareback talk" to a Safe Sex thread or to move it to such a thread.
Pattaya Days May Be Numbered.
https://www.pattayamail.com/news/pattaya-revives-25-year-battle-to-demolish-walking-street-303891
Hopefully a No Go.
Rainman.This is a tactic we often like to use in the underworld. I'll make it easier for you guys to understand. Pattaya, Bui Vien, and AC Walking Streets are great for laundering money, cash cows for corruption, for both foreign and local dollars. It's a good time to start recruiting some extra $$$ since downturn because of COVID-19. It's like we all use ketchup on our French fries, then one day for whatever reason, the rumors start that there will be no more ketchup or it will be replaced with sriracha sauce. Well in order for us to keep the ketchup, we must need some support that it is wanted. Time to recruit some newbies and steal some more people's money into those clubs that are dying or you see that pop up and disappear in a few weeks. Shit happens all the time. Just ask many of these "foreign" partners of bars and businesses who have been scammed. Ask them about their hopes and dreams of keeping alive something they really enjoyed. Great tactic, works like a charm every time. Can you imagine if the owner of Thermae, who is actually very nice and not crooked, spread a rumor about it's closure in order to get some poor saps to invest in the place? Bring them in, make them love it, and then threaten to take it away. What's that called?
Pimpampoumpipo
06-15-20, 09:19
As most of the other businesses are failing or closed, Treetown (police owned) has pretty much cornered all the remaining foreign dollars. No social distancing, no masks, public drinking and partying. Pretty much a block party every night with hookers. If you guys come down from BKK, this is where you will be hanging.It cheers me up on the survival of party places in Pattaya after the covid. If the police get involved, I regain confidence.
As most of the other businesses are failing or closed, Treetown (police owned) has pretty much cornered all the remaining foreign dollars. No social distancing, no masks, public drinking and partying. Pretty much a block party every night with hookers. If you guys come down from BKK, this is where you will be hanging.The police shut it down at 11 p last night. Some stragglers remained, patrol at 1 a went by and kicked them out.
LittleBigMan
06-15-20, 14:41
The police shut it down at 11 p last night. Some stragglers remained, patrol at 1 a went by and kicked them out.That was last night curfew was technically still in place so like most arrogant Thais with a bit of power thought they would just start a bit early until someone with some brains thought twice knowing a lot of people are watching. Tonight no curfew! Lots of traffic today especially on the 3rd road heading towards Pattaya Klang let them party if successful pretty tough to keep the rest from opening especially if the foreigner ownership and operators can point out favoritism.
I'm kind of wondering how many bar owners have rushed down to obtain a restaurant license to go along with their liquor in the last week? Rumor on the Darkside?
Pimpampoumpipo
06-15-20, 14:52
Where do you get the libedo to do that? Is it practice? (the more you fuck then the more you fuck rule). Are you 18 yo and just discovering sex for the 1st time? You take Viagra or brem? Do you go for exceptionally hot women that override your normal reload time? Or are you OK with the sex not being much fun and not finishing every time?
Of course I enjoy sex a lot but my reload time is about 36 hours. Trying to do sex every 8 hours: to finish would be become hard physical and mental work rather than blissful fun.
On my 2 week holidays to Pattaya I aim for sex once a day, but usually by day 3 the thrill is gone and by day 5 I really need a day off. I'm middle aged, I was able to finish 5 times a day when I was teenager: It'd be good to have those days back, when such fun was easy and free.I do not think I am very efficient. When I read other testimonials, I see that there are men who are much better than me. Probably because younger.
For me, I think it is the combination of several factors:
1 - I do a lot of sports. I run about 40 km per week under normal conditions. More if I prepare a race like a half marathon or a marathon. I also do indoor sports and cycling, about 35 km per week in 1 outing. In short, I play sports 5 days a week.
2 - Likewise yes I think that fucking is also a training and that the more we fuck the more we want to fuck.
3 - I only stay about ten days in a sex town. So I can focus my energy on these days. And I travel about once a month. When there is no covid 19 of course.
4 - If I stayed longer I would not follow the same pace. I think I would reduce my average to 1 to 2 girls a day. And I will vary my activities.
5 - I change girls every time. Which allows me not to get tired. I get tired of the same girl very quickly. After 2 to 3 times I'm fed up. I only do LT when I go to a lost place.
6 - I follow what my cock tells me. And it changes his mind all the time. One day the one who has big breasts, after the one who has a nice ass, the next day that pretty smile, then those pretty legs, etc. As soon as I have a hard-on, it's a sign that I'm sufficiently excited for fucking and finish the fuck. The signal is sufficient. No need to go through the brain.
7 - At my age, I'm more jaded than before. I tell myself a lot of stories while I fuck. I make some films in my head. And as long as the girl moans it contributes enormously to my excitement.
8 - I try to control my consumption of alcohol because after a certain threshold it kills my libido.
9 - I don't know for how long I can keep this pace. Already I have dropped a lot in the space of 10 years. 10 years ago (I was about 50 years old), I had on average 3 to 4 reports per day. But I could only travel once or twice a year because I worked. I was more motivated!
Here I think I have gone around the question. I may have forgotten a few things. But if you have other questions, do not hesitate, I will be happy to answer you.
Exactly. Which makes the case for there being no logical reason to confine "bareback talk" to a Safe Sex thread or to move it to such a thread.Perhaps there should be an unsafe sex thread.
Perhaps there should be an unsafe sex thread.lol. In the new world order where violating Social Distancing risks infection of a floating virus that could certainly make you very sick, take a sex worker out of circulation for weeks, perhaps cause death for yourself, the girl or any of your and her friends, relatives, casual aquaintansences and passers by, I would say a thread like that would now have to include any activity you can do wearing a face mask, staying at least 1 metre apart and would not get you in big trouble if the two of you did it at rush hour on the BTS or MRT.
Until Covid-19 is eradicated or disappears on its own, every sex act with another person is Unsafe Sex even if you wear two condoms. And this virus seems to do much more damage right up to and including death for yourself and others faster than any STD that ever existed in modern times, including HIV (today).
Not to dismiss anyone's concern about the risks if going bareback. However, considering what can happen to us these days and in the foreseeable future regardless what sex act we would be willing to pay money for or if we never have sex again, hearing what consenting adults fairly choose to do of a sexual nature for love or money ought not to ring as many alarm bells as before, imo.
The police shut it down at 11 p last night. Some stragglers remained, patrol at 1 a went by and kicked them out.Raids all over Buakhao. Treetown safe but other places were forced to closed. If you are a restaurant serving alcohol, your alcohol sales can only be a certain percentage. Saw many places had plenty of people just lounging around drinking in order to get a view of Buakhao. If it's a food establishment, that's a no no. Other places that are not near Buakhao, pretty dead.
lol. In the new world order where violating Social Distancing risks infection of a floating virus that could certainly make you very sick, take a sex worker out of circulation for weeks, perhaps cause death for yourself, the girl or any of your and her friends, relatives, casual aquaintansences and passers by, I would say a thread like that would now have to include any activity you can do wearing a face mask, staying at least 1 metre apart and would not get you in big trouble if the two of you did it at rush hour on the BTS or MRT.
Until Covid-19 is eradicated or disappears on its own, every sex act with another person is Unsafe Sex even if you wear two condoms. And this virus seems to do much more damage right up to and including death for yourself and others faster than any STD that ever existed in modern times, including HIV (today).
Not to dismiss anyone's concern about the risks if going bareback. However, considering what can happen to us these days and in the foreseeable future regardless what sex act we would be willing to pay money for or if we never have sex again, hearing what consenting adults fairly choose to do of a sexual nature for love or money ought not to ring as many alarm bells as before, imo.Unless you have a co-morbidity, Covid-19 is extremely low risk and comparable to catching flu or a cold for most people so I don't think that comparison holds any water. Plus there have been no reported local transmissions for weeks so you're certainly more likely to die of lightning strike than Covid-19 in Thailand right now.
You should be more worried about boring people to death by repeating ad nauseam your need for bareback sex. You've basically repeated the same thing thousands of times on this forum. How long can keep it up before you realise you've flogged that horse to death?
Unless you have a co-morbidity, Covid-19 is extremely low risk and comparable to catching flu or a cold for most people so I don't think that comparison holds any water. Plus there have been no reported local transmissions for weeks so you're certainly more likely to die of lightning strike than Covid-19 in Thailand right now.
You should be more worried about boring people to death by repeating ad nauseam your need for bareback sex. You've basically repeated the same thing thousands of times on this forum. How long can keep it up before you realise you've flogged that horse to death?You can always put me on your Ignore list and then you can complain about how old, fat, ugly and unskilled the women are in the oilies and massage shops you keep returning to without distraction.
Tree Town was booming last night. Busiest I've seen it so far. Police showed up eventually. I was told they were from BKK. They only closed Beer Hub for some reason. The music died down, but it was still going at 11:45 p. It started to drizzle so I left. I expect a Bigger police presence tonight.
LittleBigMan
06-16-20, 10:59
Tree Town was booming last night. Busiest I've seen it so far. Police showed up eventually. I was told they were from BKK. They only closed Beer Hub for some reason. The music died down, but it was still going at 11:45 p. It started to drizzle so I left. I expect a Bigger police presence tonight.Don't hold your breath just like don't hold your breath Walking Street will be gone.
Mr Enternational
06-16-20, 11:11
Tree Town was booming last night. Busiest I've seen it so far. Police showed up eventually. I was told they were from BKK. They only closed Beer Hub for some reason. The music died down, but it was still going at 11:45 p. It started to drizzle so I left. I expect a Bigger police presence tonight.My neighbor works at BH. She was over last night and we were watching a movie when she got a call saying the police had raided and employees were down at the police station. She just sent me a message saying it is only take away for now and they still have no idea why the place was raided.
LittleBigMan
06-16-20, 11:37
My neighbor works at BH. She was over last night and we were watching a movie when she got a call saying the police had raided and enployees were down at the jail. She just sent me a message saying it is only take away for now and nobody still has no idea why they raided the place.This type of stuff like last night is usually staged or someone on the BH is on the shit list! The shit list could be a number of things like he is a foreign older not paying his share or the bigger boys who run TreeTown is jealous or just don't like him? I've not seen my renter next door drinking buddy who is assigned to Soi 9 and usually I get the info from him.
A good example lot of people can't stand the owner of Windmill I've not met him nor do I care to but I heard he is a real ass-so that burns a lot of people. A few years back he got busted and was set up. They brought in some old English guy who ventures into his club and took a girl upstairs to a private room now anyone who knows Soi Diamond if Cops were coming many of these clubs has lookouts or pay for information if you suddenly were to go into Soi Diamond by the time the cops reach the door everyone would be on the up and up but not this time. Rumor the owner paid up 250,000 baht a day later he was open again. Rumor the next time the BIB from BKK needed to make a point to the rest of WS he agrees they could use his club.
Phase 4 opening current portion is to allow those with restaurant and liquor license to open. Treetown has both from what I'm hearing as for BeerHub that might not be the case plus they seem to be foreign owned?
Crocodilexp
06-16-20, 12:25
Now that the curfew is removed, is Pattaya worth a 2-day mongering trip from Bangkok these days, should I wait for a few weeks, or just not go at all?
Specifically, is there a fair number of freelancers available on Beach Road or elsewhere (where)?
I not a drinker or an agogo kind of guy, prefer to source pussy in the 700-1200 baht ST range. Is there anything on Soi 6? Are many "massage" place girls operating, and how much do they accept for take out these days?
Not much into the online scene. Might use it in an emergency, but if that's the only viable option, I prefer not to take the trip.
Mr Enternational
06-16-20, 13:37
Now that the curfew is removed, is Pattaya worth a 2-day mongering trip from Bangkok these days, should I wait for a few weeks, or just not go at all?
Specifically, is there a fair number of freelancers available on Beach Road or elsewhere (where)?
I not a drinker or an agogo kind of guy, prefer to source pussy in the 700-1200 baht ST range. Is there anything on Soi 6? Are many "massage" place girls operating, and how much do they accept for take out these days?The curfew has nothing to do with nothing. There is nothing that you need to do between the hours of 2300 and 0300 that were the curfew that you could not have done during the other 20 hours of the day; that includes Beach Road chicks. As MP has said several times, Beach Road chicks go between there and Soi Buakhao, while there are many more freelancers on Soi Buakhao that are not of the Beach Road variety. Bars are closed, so that means no Soi 6. Massage place girls have been operating the entire time (usually to be found online). As usual, I give them 500 for ST and 1000 for LT. Before curfew, during curfew, now; tourists or no tourists, my game has not changed.
Tree Town was booming last night. Busiest I've seen it so far. Police showed up eventually. I was told they were from BKK. They only closed Beer Hub for some reason. The music died down, but it was still going at 11:45 p. It started to drizzle so I left. I expect a Bigger police presence tonight.Did you see the girls fight?
The curfew has nothing to do with nothing. There is nothing that you need to do between the hours of 2300 and 0300 that were the curfew that you could not have done during the other 20 hours of the day; that includes Beach Road chicks. As MP has said several times, Beach Road chicks go between there and Soi Buakhao, while there are many more freelancers on Soi Buakhao that are not of the Beach Road variety. Bars are closed, so that means no Soi 6. Massage place girls have been operating the entire time (usually to be found online). As usual, I give them 500 for ST and 1000 for LT. Before curfew, during curfew, now; tourists or no tourists, my game has not changed.He is 100% right on about Pattaya now, curfew or no curfew. His game hasn't change. My game sorta morphed, meaning I still do what I did but without the lights and music and DJ. Saw one pretty hot chick surrounded by a bunch of dudes. A few brave souls tried to step up got, but ended up empty. Monkeypaw was on the hunt nearby. Quick aim, shoot, and I think you how the story ended.
Crocodilexp
06-16-20, 22:57
The curfew has nothing to do with nothing. There is nothing that you need to do between the hours of 2300 and 0300 that were the curfew that you could not have done during the other 20 hours of the day; that includes Beach Road chicks. I disagree, timing is key. Before Corona, Beach Road was almost useless before 7-8 pm, and after 2 am or so. If top side of that window is reduced to 10 pm and girls reduced by 50%, not much is left, especially if you're aiming for more than one girl in a day, as I do in Pattaya.
(usually to be found online). As usual, I give them 500 for ST and 1000 for LT.
You're achieving impressive prices; I'm definitely in your corner though not quite as determined; I end up paying 700-1000ST. However, finding girls online is not my thing at all, I prefer the approach where I can walk around in a place with substantial numbers, see someone I like, and be in her pussy 15 min later; Beach Road was at one point ideal for that.
For me, if propositioning girls on Line is the game, there's no point of a trip to Pattaya since I live in Bangkok and have a wider base of contacts here. But reheating old leftovers and is not my thing. I'm no fisherman and I have little patience to contact multiple fish, wait for them to bite and eventually arrive (better just jerk off and save 1000 baht).
Did you see the girls fight?Were they fighting over you?
Were they fighting over you?Unfortunately not. But lots of drinks knocked over and thrown. Spills everywhere.
Mr Enternational
06-17-20, 04:05
I disagree, timing is key. Before Corona, Beach Road was almost useless before 7-8 pm, and after 2 am or so. If top side of that window is reduced to 10 pm and girls reduced by 50%, not much is left, especially if you're aiming for more than one girl in a day, as I do in Pattaya.
If chicks traditionally came out late, but they knew there was now a curfew, seems to me they would come out earlier if they still needed to make money. They are not doomed to come out only after 10 until all eternity damning whatever else is going on around them. They know how to adjust to the situation.
So go at 8 pm, walk down the street, and exchange contact info with the girls you like. You do not have to go to the grocery store to buy food to cook each meal you are hungry. You can go there to get food to stock your cupboards so when you are hungry you just pull something out and start cooking.
Same with online. I do not go online to find a chick to come over right now. I go online to stock my contacts. Then when I am ready for one I just draw from that bunch. But I get what you are saying. You like the fast food, drive thru method. But hell, these days it is not like the menu is changing. The same girls are going to be there each trip, so why not save yourself some time and get all the contacts at once.
I do not know where you stay when you come here, or what you do with these girls once you get them. But something worth noting is that there are no tourists here. That means pretty much everything from 2nd Road to Beach Road is closed. That means there is no lighting coming from businesses at night, so most places on Beach Road are pretty dark and the entire street is quiet as a mouse. I don't know if you ride motorbikes around and pick up the chicks or if you use short time hotels or whatever. But being no businesses open in the area also means there are no short time hotels open in the area. (Same as MP reported the other day that now even the Beach Road Starbucks has closed.) There are still motorbike taxis around though and I guess you could go with the girl on one of those if neither of you have a bike.
James Dean 2
06-17-20, 05:24
So go at 8 pm, walk down the street, and exchange contact info with the girls you like. You do not have to go to the grocery store to buy food to cook each meal you are hungry. You can go there to get food to stock your cupboards so when you are hungry you just pull something out and start cooking.
Same with online. I do not go online to find a chick to come over right now. I go online to stock my contacts. Then when I am ready for one I just draw from that bunch. But I get what you are saying. You like the fast food, drive thru method. But hell, these days it is not like the menu is changing. The same girls are going to be there each trip, so why not save yourself some time and get all the contacts at once.
I do not know where you stay when you come here, or what you do with these girls once you get them. But something worth noting is that there are no tourists here. That means pretty much everything from 2nd Road to Beach Road is closed. That means there is no lighting coming from businesses at night, so most places on Beach Road are pretty dark and the entire street is quiet as a mouse. I don't know if you ride motorbikes around and pick up the chicks or if you use short timLike your analogy. Now I don't know if I'm Hungry or Horny.
Cheers.
Mr Enternational
06-17-20, 07:16
You're achieving impressive prices; I'm definitely in your corner though not quite as determined; I end up paying 700-1000ST. However, finding girls online is not my thing at all, I prefer the approach where I can walk around in a place with substantial numbers,I am not achieving anything. The amounts that I am saying now are the same amounts I have always said. People talk about going rates. These have always been the going rates that I have paid the last 14 years.
Last night I was fucking about after 11 pm. I was seeing what was going on since the cufew ended; which was not a got damn thing. I was about to head to Treetown after cruising Beach Road, but decided to go the other way down Buakhao to see if my favorite kebab place was open at the corner of 2nd Rd. Right before the market at Buakhao and Pattaya Tai I see a chick walking with her ass hanging out. I decided to turn around and go talk to her. She had just gone to get food and was going back home. I told her that I would give her a ride, so she climbed on burning my leg with the plastic bag of soup. It felt like the exhaust pipe on a motorcycle.
When we got to her place we traded Lines then I told her that she could just go get her things and come with me. She ran in and came out about 5 minutes later. I said where is your food? She had forgotten it and ran back in to get it. She said she had just come back to Pattaya from visiting her grandmother in Surin.
We went to look around. Riding down 2nd Rd (kebab place was closed), then to Soi Diana. I went down to Buakhao to show her where everyone hangs at Treetown now. It looked like Mad Max crossed with the Star Wars bar scene. She said I only see ladyboys. I pointed up showing her where the real women hang. I ended up getting a kebab from a place on Buakhao and we headed to my place.
She was 23 years old and had tattoos, double tongue piercings, and nipples pierced. She was standoffish at first, but when I took a shower and got in bed the freak came out of her. She could not get enough of my dick in her mouth. Whoever thought up the idea of rubbing metal back and forth across genitals was a good thing must have been high as fuck and the people that followed must be crazy as fuck. Not something I enjoy. But in the spirit of the moment I put up with it.
One more time this morning. Standard BBBBFSCIP that Pattaya is known for. At 1130 am I dropped her back to her room and handed her 1000 baht and she said she hopes to see me soon. My average, status quo, par for the course Pattaya night. The moral of the story is that all of Pattaya has substantial numbers and you can walk around and approach anyone. You do not need a Beach Road for that.
You're achieving impressive prices; I'm definitely in your corner though not quite as determined; I end up paying 700-1000ST. Though it's interesting he never post pics of girls he is meeting.
Though it's interesting he never post pics of girls he is meeting.Well 700 is very cheap! I'd love to see how the girls look for this price? Because usually I pay between 1000 to 3000 to each girl but I take only young fresh and sexy girl who are between 19 to 25. Usually 25/26 iare the older girls I take. And when I pay 3000 it s usually when the girl ask me TIP because I fuck her bareback and do CIP! I'm a creampie addict!
Mr Enternational
06-17-20, 11:16
Though it's interesting he never post pics of girls he is meeting.Actually I have posted hundreds of pictures of chicks that I have met in at least 50 countries on this very website. However, you sir, have posted none. That is what is interesting.
I am not here to prove anything to you. I am here to share information as the owner says is the purpose of this forum. Take it or leave it. Just like a mf to complain about something he is getting for free. As a matter of fact, I will just put you on ignore so you will no longer have to worry about what I never do.
Actually I have posted hundreds of pictures of chicks that I have met in at least 50 countries on this very website. However, you sir, have posted none. That is what is interesting.
I have written reports about gogo girls with names / number, agency girls, various massage shop girls, and dating site girls, so that if someone meets them, they know what to expect. I don't write report about nightclub girls because I won't reveal the identity of girl, which makes the information pretty useless, as no one can find her there.
I am not here to prove anything to you. I am here to share information as the owner says is the purpose of this forum. Take it or leave it. Just like a mf to complain about something he is getting for free. As a matter of fact, I will just put you on ignore so you will no longer have to worry about what I never do.I don't want to put you on spot or anything. I believe you completely that you're getting girls for 500 b ST. Heck even in Bangkok my DMs on Line / tinder are filled with girls asking 1000 b for ST.
But for a new monger who might visit Thailand for the first time, your reports are pretty misleading. Your report says someone can get girls for 500 b, but what kind? That you have skipped very conveniently. And you're fine with sharing screenshots of chats to hammer the point that you actually paid 500 b (hmm now that you want to prove to everyone) but don't want to post pics of those "hot" girls.
Edit: I noticed he later edited his post and mentioned he has me on ignore list now, obviously he don't want me to call his bullshit again. What a baby LOL
For all the new mongers who will visit Thailand sometime in future, I just have to say that don't believe one person's reports. There are many great posters here, and many forums on internet. Read them all, which will give you a good idea of quality and price. Last thing you want is trying to get a hot girl and offering her 500b because Mr-bragging-I-get-hot-girls-for-500b said it.
Mr Enternational
06-17-20, 13:13
I have written reports about gogo girls with names / number, agency girls, various massage shop girls, and dating site girls, so that if someone meets them, they know what to expect. I don't write report about nightclub girls because I won't reveal the identity of girl, which makes the information pretty useless, as no one can find her there.And where are the pictures of these girls? Pictures that you have taken yourself, not pictures that anyone can copy from a dating site or gogo website and use for a made up report? What to expect? You can not say that another person should expect the same experience as you. Everybody in this hobby knows that YMMV.
I don't want to put you on spot or anything. I believe you completely that you're getting girls for 500 b ST. Heck even in Bangkok my DMs on Line / tinder are filled with girls asking 1000 b for ST.
But for a new monger who might visit Thailand for the first time, your reports are pretty misleading. And you're fine with sharing screenshots of chats to hammer the point that you actually paid 500 b My reports are not misleading at all. If you are reading my screenshots then you will know the difference between them and what you are saying. And this is something that I have ALWAYS said whether it has to do with women or shirts or taxis or anything else I have reported about spending money on around this place. AN ASKING PRICE IS NOT THE SAME AS A PAYING PRICE.
You have stated that your DMs are filled with chicks ASKING 1000 baht. When I post a screenshot it shows what the chick asked AND me talking her down to what I want to pay. Why is it so hard to understand that YOU PAY WHAT YOU NEGOTIATE. If you took the price that you were told and did not negotiate that is on you. But you can not say that because we both walked into Mike's shopping mall and you bought a shirt from a vendor for 400 baht and I walked in later and bought the same type shirt from the same vendor for 200 baht, that something was inferior about my shirt. No. It is beause when you were told 400 baht, that is what you paid. Whereas when I was told 400 baht I said no fucking way; I will give you 200 baht.
Same way that I have walked into a shop to buy a fake watch. I have watched people that were being served before me buy those watches for 6000 baht because that is the price they were told. I keep my fucking mouth shut. When they leave and it is my turn, I can buy the same watch for 2500 baht because I will negotiate! The shit holds the same when you replace shirts or watches with women. That is the same reason that I walk down Soi 6 and a chick says 1000 baht for me and 300 baht for the room, but I end up paying 700 baht for her and 300 baht for the room. They are not starting off at 700 baht. They are starting off at the same 1000 baht that you were told.
100 chicks in the gogo all go for 3000 baht. Does that mean all 100 look like Marilyn Monroe? No. Most of those chicks look like Pluto the dog. You can get a pretty chick for 500 baht, or you can get an ugly chick for 3000 baht. What you pay says nothing to how the chick looks. Besides, most of the screenshots that I post the chicks ASK for 2000 baht anyway. So why are you skipping over that? They must look pretty good to ask for 2000 baht right? Or do they not look good at all because I am able to talk them down?
For the 1,000th time, I have sense enough to negotiate and not pay the given or asking price. That does not mean something is wrong with the girl; that means something is right with me. So yes, if you come here and think a chick is going to tell you 500 baht short time or 1000 baht long time off the bat then that is not true and I have NEVER purported that to be true. What I have said is to negotiate for a better price than the one you are initially given. And I have given countless examples of how it is done, whether it has been with girls or taxis or tailors or souvenirs.
Mr Enternational
06-17-20, 13:30
This type of stuff like last night is usually staged or someone on the BH is on the shit list! The shit list could be a number of things like he is a foreign older not paying his share or the bigger boys who run TreeTown is jealous or just don't like him?
Phase 4 opening current portion is to allow those with restaurant and liquor license to open. Treetown has both from what I'm hearing as for BeerHub that might not be the case plus they seem to be foreign owned?So the problem seems to be that you can only partake in alcohol in a restaurant while you are having a meal! You can not just go into a restaurant for drinks.
"Pattaya authorities are threatening some establishments with closure unless they meet the criteria for reopening. These include only serving alcohol to customers who are having a meal".
https://thethaiger.com/news/pattaya/pattaya-officials-threaten-bars-masquerading-as-restaurants-with-closure-video
For the 1,000th time, I have sense enough to negotiate and not pay the given or asking price. That does not mean something is wrong with the girl; that means something is right with me. So yes, if you come here and think a chick is going to tell you 500 baht short time or 1000 baht long time off the bat then that is not true and I have NEVER purported that to be true. What I have said is to negotiate for a better price than the one you are initially given. And I have given countless examples of how it is done, whether it has been with girls or taxis or tailors or souvenirs.I'm not interested in your negotiations skills. I didn't ask how you negotiate.
I'm not interested in what kind of girls you meet. I didn't ask.
I don't deny you meeting girls for 500 b, because it's possible in Thailand, I've seen it myself.
I made a point, that you don't post pics of girls you meet for 500 b. And if you're going to keep insisting by writing it about in your every second post, that you're negotiating hottest girls in Thailand to 500 b for ST / LT, and happy to share chats but won't share pics of them. Well you can disagree but your posts are misinformative and misleading. Your point about "they start with 2000b and I negotiate them down to 500" is useless, you're assuming just because she asked 2000b, she is pretty. I don't judge a girl's looks by what they ask, I judge a girl's looks by....their looks.
I've made my point already, and I refrain from long arguments on internet forums, unless a new argument needs to be made.
I'm not interested in your negotiations skills. I didn't ask how you negotiate.
I'm not interested in what kind of girls you meet. I didn't ask.
I don't deny you meeting girls for 500 b, because it's possible in Thailand, I've seen it myself.
I made a point, that you don't post pics of girls you meet for 500 b. And if you're going to keep insisting by writing it about in your every second post, that you're negotiating hottest girls in Thailand to 500 b for ST / LT, and happy to share chats but won't share pics of them. Well you can disagree but your posts are misinformative and misleading. Your point about "they start with 2000b and I negotiate them down to 500" is useless, you're assuming just because she asked 2000b, she is pretty. I don't judge a girl's looks by what they ask, I judge a girl's looks by....their looks.
I've made my point already, and I refrain from long arguments on internet forums, unless a new argument needs to be made.Gargano, my advice to you is that it is futile to argue with someone whose only purpose on this site is to attempt to boost his ego.
Pimpampoumpipo
06-17-20, 14:14
The subject of the tariff of girls in Pattaya (and elsewhere) regularly agitates the threads. It's a recurring topic. There are exactly the same debates on a French speaking monger website. The supporters tear each other apart in the same way and at the same prices as on ISG.
I think everyone is a little right.
Depending on whether we look like young Justin Bieber or an old geezer like me, we won't necessarily pay the same price. I made some gogos bars with a young Japanese a few months ago and I assure you that all the girls were absolutely crazy about him and they showed to him. Negotiating a young girl from the Sapphyr or the Palace at 500 baht for him I think it's quite possible. It is completely impossible for me.
Conversely, I too could find a junkie or a big ugly at 500 Baths on Beach road. But I won't either.
As far as I'm concerned the truth is in between. For my part I pay between minimum 1200 baths + tip for an ST in massage shop and 2000/2500 baths for an LT (which I do very rarely), never more (or only exceptionally). This is my price list. The compromise that I found between the range of girls that I like and the prices that I am ready to pay in Pattaya. But I also don't try to really negotiate unless the price seems unreasonable.
The context, the place, the state of mind, what we are looking for at this moment, the "beauty" (eminently subjective parameter) and the age of the monger and that of the girl and even the time, everything that (and undoubtedly others) are parameters that should be known and put into equation to be able to explain the prices. But we rarely know them all when we read them on a thread. I hardly ever give them either. Too subjective.
But again, I think the fair price is what we are willing to pay.
Don't hold your breath just like don't hold your breath Walking Street will be gone.At 8p, the police showed up in force at Tree Town. Four pickups full of police and a couple on motos. They shut down Soul City and left. I was expecting more. They went around and closed other venues last night. Beer Hub was closed over social distancing, according to rumor.
https://thepattayanews.com/2020/06/17/pattaya-police-warn-if-your-primary-business-is-selling-alcohol-or-violating-social-distancing-you-will-be-shut-restaurant-license-or-not/
Did you see the girls fight?I did Not.
The subject of the tariff of girls in Pattaya (and elsewhere) regularly agitates the threads. It's a recurring topic. There are exactly the same debates on a French speaking monger website. The supporters tear each other apart in the same way and at the same prices as on ISG.
I think everyone is a little right.
Depending on whether we look like young Justin Bieber or an old geezer like me, we won't necessarily pay the same price. I made some gogos bars with a young Japanese a few months ago and I assure you that all the girls were absolutely crazy about him and they showed to him. Negotiating a young girl from the Sapphyr or the Palace at 500 baht for him I think it's quite possible. It is completely impossible for me.
Conversely, I too could find a junkie or a big ugly at 500 Baths on Beach road. But I won't either.
As far as I'm concerned the truth is in between. For my part I pay between minimum 1200 baths + tip for an ST in massage shop and 2000/2500 baths for an LT (which I do very rarely), never more (or only exceptionally). This is my price list. The compromise that I found between the range of girls that I like and the prices that I am ready to pay in Pattaya. But I also don't try to really negotiate unless the price seems unreasonable..I totally agree with you. I never found girls less 1000. I'm 38 and good looking. But usually I pay girls between 1000 to maximum 3000. And I do always BBFS + CIP.
Franciscass
06-17-20, 16:07
I feel it comes down to the situation the girl finds herself in at any given time, that is how badly she needs money and also how easy it for her to get tricks.
If because of her looks and age she gets very little action needs money she will go for 500 baht. Why go home empty handed especially if the "John' seems convivial and maybe offers to take her for a meal first. Also possible she could be a little horny.
On the other hand a good looking girl who can get easily 2 k plus because she checks all the boxes is extremely unlikely to fuck for 500. Not saying it hasn't ever happened and will be more likely where the John is familiar with the local situation but in my experience over 20 years here the old adage applies most of the time you get what you pay for.
Pimpampoumpipo
06-17-20, 16:16
I did Not.Excuse me if I meddle with something that doesn't concern me but there was also another interesting question asked by Allover: "Were they fighting over you? I am also interested in the answer.
Did you see the girls fight?
LittleBigMan
06-17-20, 16:38
At 8p, the police showed up in force at Tree Town. Four pickups full of police and a couple on motos. They shut down Soul City and left. I was expecting more. They went around and closed other venues last night. Beer Hub was closed over social distancing, according to rumor.
https://thepattayanews.com/2020/06/17/pattaya-police-warn-if-your-primary-business-is-selling-alcohol-or-violating-social-distancing-you-will-be-shut-restaurant-license-or-not/
I did Not.Like I said I wouldn't hold my breath this seems a bit standard to me to note just my opinion. I called it show and tell this is what this government is all about and it so calls leaders in town and the province of Chon Buri. It won't continue for very long they are true to their M. O. In the beginning but never there in the end. Just like their own law about riding in the back of a pickup truck.
You got groups foreigners who like to push the envelope where it is clearly noted you got to be a restaurant first then you can serve liquor. Then you take a place like Beer Hub who has the license for the restaurant but not know to serve food has his paperwork in place but violating social distancing? Look around you got to laugh. I think there was a Youtube video of the manager walking around filming why was he closed when all this other stuff was happening maybe because he is associated with the Nightwish group although their leader has some influence he has also made a lot of distractors. The BIB pick and chose their targets for a reason.
You can always put me on your Ignore list and then you can complain about how old, fat, ugly and unskilled the women are in the oilies and massage shops you keep returning to without distraction.Don't worry! All the men fuck ladies bareback now in Bangkok, Pattaya or PP. Even girls don't ask condoms anymore! And when they ask us to put condoms, it's just because they want more money! I remember a very sexy girl in soi 6 in bar Angels play, she asked me before we go room if I've condoms! I said NO! And she told me she had condoms! And after shower and many kisses, and after I lick her pussy long time! I put my dick directly inside her pussy and she told me I can fuck her without condom but I must give her 500 more! I said OK and I come inside her pussy!
Pimpampoumpipo
06-17-20, 19:33
Don't worry! All the men fuck ladies bareback now in Bangkok, Pattaya or PP. Even girls don't ask condoms anymore! And when they ask us to put condoms, it's just because they want more money! I remember a very sexy girl in soi 6 in bar Angels play, she asked me before we go room if I've condoms! I said NO! And she told me she had condoms! And after shower and many kisses, and after I lick her pussy long time! I put my dick directly inside her pussy and she told me I can fuck her without condom but I must give her 500 more! I said OK and I come inside her pussy!Ah yes I remember! This is the one I fucked just before you. I had a warm pee.
Don't worry! All the men fuck ladies bareback now in Bangkok, Pattaya or PP. Even girls don't ask condoms anymore! And when they ask us to put condoms, it's just because they want more money! I remember a very sexy girl in soi 6 in bar Angels play, she asked me before we go room if I've condoms! I said NO! And she told me she had condoms! And after shower and many kisses, and after I lick her pussy long time! I put my dick directly inside her pussy and she told me I can fuck her without condom but I must give her 500 more! I said OK and I come inside her pussy!Yes, I realize a "go with the flow in the room" approach can often turn out to be a BBFS+CIP session. I don't know about "all" girls agreeing to it at crunch time with or without an offer of extra money. I certainly have had plenty of girls still say No to it in the room at any price and mean it.
However, I am generally trying to achieve a certain result that is quite different from what I typically read here regarding getting a BBFS+CIP session with a girl, paid or free, and it does not fit a "go with the flow in the room" approach.
See, my usual goal is to secure an upfront agreement from the girl to provide it to me before we walk away together toward my room, even before we meet in person in the case of a dating site or online first encounter.
What I am trying to avoid and am willing to pay extra to avoid is more than merely avoiding wearing a condom (a no go for sex with me). I am actually trying to avoid any further discussion about it in the room or at crunch time no matter how brief, fleeting, non confrontational and eventually agreeble to it that brief discussion at crunch time might turn out to be.
I don't even want to hear the word "condom" uttered in the room. I want all of that settled outside or online before we take a single step toward my room together.
That adds a spin to the mission that I don't think many other punters attempt. And good for them for not requiring it.
Yes, I realize a "go with the flow in the room" approach can often turn out to be a BBFS+CIP session. I don't know about "all" girls agreeing to it at crunch time with or without an offer of extra money. I certainly have had plenty of girls still say No to it in the room at any price and mean it.
However, I am generally trying to achieve a certain result that is quite different from what I typically read here regarding getting a BBFS+CIP session with a girl, paid or free, and it does not fit a "go with the flow in the room" approach.But you even don't need to ask the girl before that you want fuck her bareback. Usually if you re nice, treat them good, they don t ask you to put condoms.
And sometimes and it s very funny, but you already fuck them bareback and during the act, the lady just say "you don t want put condom?" LOL.
And you just answer you don t like because you re not horny with condoms and they let you fuck them bareback!
You know girls don t care now to use condoms!
But they care to use a mask because of Covid 19? LOL.
And I remember before each time I used thai condoms, the condom was broken after use.
I fucked so many sexy ladies in SOI 6 in bars Wicked, Jungle bar, Avarice, where Angels play, Sex in the city and in gogos in soi LK.
And I don t speak about the girls in Bangkok and Phnom Penh.
But you even don't need to ask the girl before that you want fuck her bareback. Usually if you re nice, treat them good, they don t ask you to put condoms.
And sometimes and it s very funny, but you already fuck them bareback and during the act, the lady just say "you don t want put condom?" LOL.
And you just answer you don t like because you re not horny with condoms and they let you fuck them bareback!
You know girls don t care now to use condoms!
But they care to use a mask because of Covid 19? LOL.
And I remember before each time I used thai condoms, the condom was broken after use.
I fucked so many sexy ladies in SOI 6 in bars Wicked, Jungle bar, Avarice, where Angels play, Sex in the city and in gogos in soi LK.
And I don t speak about the girls in Bangkok and Phnom Penh."And sometimes and it s very funny, but you already fuck them bareback and during the act, the lady just say "you don t want put condom?" LOL.
And you just answer you don t like because you re not horny with condoms and they let you fuck them bareback!"
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Yep, that would already be 100% more conversation in the room and in my bed about condoms than I am interested in having anymore with any ladies.
To me, it would be well worth 500-1000 baht more in an upfront negotiation to avoid even that much of a conversation about condoms in the room even if not negotiating anything at all upfront meant the girl would accept 700 baht for ST! LOL.
Your record of success in getting BBFS+CIM is much, much higher than mine. I assure you I am nice to every girl I take. But many ladies I have chosen have gasped in shock, stopped everything cold, put their hand over their pussy, closed their legs or wiggled away in retreat as far along as at the very moment of penetration after an otherwise lovely, happy and fun time together leading right up to it.
And then they have refused to change their mind for any amount of additional money. Well, I've never offered as much as 5,000 baht more or anything like that.
That includes many girls I have chosen in Pattaya over the years.
But, by far, most of my mongering in Thailand is in Bangkok. And, frankly, I think I can count on just the fingers and not the thumb of one hand the number of girls in Pattaya I see and engage with on a typical trip there that I would be inspired to go through any hassle at all to fuck for more than 700 baht as it is. So I am probably passing up dozens of offers each day I spend in Pattaya that would no doubt lead to a no conversation BBFS+CIP.
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Your record of success in getting BBFS+CIM is much, much higher than mine.
...Of course, I meant to type BBFS+CIP there 😁
Danny Duck
06-18-20, 08:51
I feel it comes down to the situation the girl finds herself in at any given time, that is how badly she needs money and also how easy it for her to get tricks.
If because of her looks and age she gets very little action needs money she will go for 500 baht. Why go home empty handed especially if the "John' seems convivial and maybe offers to take her for a meal first. Also possible she could be a little horny.
On the other hand a good looking girl who can get easily 2 k plus because she checks all the boxes is extremely unlikely to fuck for 500. Not saying it hasn't ever happened and will be more likely where the John is familiar with the local situation but in my experience over 20 years here the old adage applies most of the time you get what you pay for.You sure? You sure you sure?
500 is a lot of money. Even for a hot Babygirl girl.
Of course, I meant to type BBFS+CIP there 😁Maybe you're not lucky with ladies. Ladies never ask me to wear condoms! I'm just very nice guy with them, I treat them well, like if they were my true girlfriend! I even say them I'd love to fucl them very often, each time I come Pattaya! I love to kiss them, to lick their pussy during 20 minutes minimum and usually they let me fuck them bareback! And each time I come inside their pussy! They love that! They're just scare to be pregnant! LOL.
Let's come back to Earth and look at the timeline below from TF.
The screenshot was taken one hour after I messaged the girl. She advertised 1 m75 which is tall by the standard of Thai girls on the game.
Only a percentage of girls I message on TF bother to reply. Another percentage of those who reply do not read my reply to their own initial reply. She was still online when I did the screenshot but she is now offline. It is difficult to say whether this particular girl was ready to accept my counteroffer of 1500 as she didn't even read it. Indeed had I accepted her offer of 2000 she wouldn't have read it either. She doesn't even qualify so far as a girl I can fuck ST for 2000.
Maybe you're not lucky with ladies. Ladies never ask me to wear condoms! I'm just very nice guy with them, I treat them well, like if they were my true girlfriend! I even say them I'd love to fucl them very often, each time I come Pattaya! I love to kiss them, to lick their pussy during 20 minutes minimum and usually they let me fuck them bareback! And each time I come inside their pussy! They love that! They're just scare to be pregnant! LOL.Yeah, that's probably it.
Let's come back to Earth and look at the timeline below from TF.
The screenshot was taken one hour after I messaged the girl. She advertised 1 m75 which is tall by the standard of Thai girls on the game.
Only a percentage of girls I message on TF bother to reply. Another percentage of those who reply do not read my reply to their own initial reply. She was still online when I did the screenshot but she is now offline. It is difficult to say whether this particular girl was ready to accept my counteroffer of 1500 as she didn't even read it. Indeed had I accepted her offer of 2000 she wouldn't have read it either. She doesn't even qualify so far as a girl I can fuck ST for 2000.Did you zoom in on her first TF profile pic to see what appears to be her (clothed) full body reflection in the mirror? Hard to tell in that pic. Might not be her. If it is, she might be a lot chunkier for her height than her stated stats suggest.
Not saying that is an immediate deal killer. To each his own and sometimes chunky or even quite chunky is still fun. Variety is the spice of life and all that. But until she reads, finalizes, agrees to show up and then actually shows up for a session she knows she remains in your mind as this hotter, more idealized girl than she really is.
That is a pleasant place to be for some of these girls and, even if they need the money, they often try to prolong the fantasy as much as possible.
On dating sites, some of them never leave that fantasy world where they are younger, slimmer, hotter than they are or as they used to be and it's all about wasting men's time checking out how much we might have been willing to pay them based on those outdated pics and stats.
For others it's a constant delay to reply, delay to agree to move the conversation to Line (where there are more potentially damning pics and that scary video chat option), delay to video chat, long delay to show up and all that crap.
Btw, on ThaiFriendly she can read your short replies in full either on the Inbox messages option or on an email notification that you sent her a message without clicking on the message directly or even visiting your profile again. Chances are she has already seen your 1,500 baht counter offer and the request to give you her Line info.
Christian G
06-19-20, 09:01
The screenshot was taken one hour after I messaged the girl. She advertised 1 m75 which is tall by the standard of Thai girls on the game.
175 cm and 60 kg are standard setups on TF if the girl does not update her profile with her real height and weight.
The screenshot below shows my latest messaged girls in the TF outbox.
It can be seen that only 1 girl out of 5 showed an interest. Her Line pics were a big turn off compared to the pic she had on TF so I ghosted her.
The other ones either didn't respond or didn't do so beyond tossing me an offer. My pricing policy is not to go higher than 1500 (ST) but directly to accept 1500.
Mr Enternational
06-19-20, 11:54
But until she reads, finalizes, agrees to show up and then actually shows up for a session she knows she remains in your mind as this hotter, more idealized girl than she really is.
For others it's a constant delay to reply, delay to agree to move the conversation to Line (where there are more potentially damning pics and that scary video chat option), delay to video chat, long delay to show up and all that crap.
Btw, on ThaiFriendly she can read your short replies in full either on the Inbox messages option or on an email notification that you sent her a message without clicking on the message directly or even visiting your profile again. Chances are she has already seen your 1,500 baht counter offer and the request to give you her Line info.You give these chicks too much credit as if they are of the Monkey Paw school of deep penetrating thought. They are not out here using psychology on guys that they believe they are staying in guys' minds that they have not even talked to.
Have you seen these chicks' mailbox? The truth of the matter is that you are lucky if your mail is one of the ones they have chosen to read because they can get 100 in a matter of minutes. So it is not that they are trying to play with your mind or hype themselves up, as much as it is you getting lost in the shuffle. As for something being in an email, they can not even remember usernames and passwords to put their old Line on a new phone. Most that I have ever talked to have no clue as to what their email password is. Even I have the email when receive message function turned off and I don't receive one tenth of the messages that chicks on dating sites receive.
The screenshot below shows my latest messaged girls in the TF outbox.
It can be seen that only 1 girl out of 5 showed an interest. Her Line pics were a big turn off compared to the pic she had on TF so I ghosted her.
The other ones either didn't respond or didn't do so beyond tossing me an offer. My pricing policy is not to go higher than 1500 (ST) but directly to accept 1500.Just like at the GoGo bars, there is a "game" to be played even on ThaiFriendly. And those who play it best, usually get what they want. And money is only one factor in this game. Hint: Some of the girls play the same game with you. This is not Soi 6 (XXL is Soi 6 aficionado) or GoGo bar where they have to sit and chat for drinks and commission and salary. So they don't need to get to know anybody. They also don't have that extra pressure from mamasan or the boss. If these girls are freelancing on their own, they will be more selective. I have a capture rate (response with price on ThaiFriendly of about 95% So out of 100 girls I message, 95 will give me a price. I have a kill rate (girls I fuck out of those who respond of 60% It goes lower because I start screening them after getting a price and their LINE and didn't like what I found. But anyways, yeah beef up your ThaiFriendly game.
P.S. The other ones you have on your screenshot are out of my specs in age, weight, or height.
You give these chicks too much credit as if they are of the Monkey Paw school of deep penetrating thought. They are not out here using psychology on guys that they believe they are staying in guys' minds that they have not even talked to.
Have you seen these chicks' mailbox? The truth of the matter is that you are lucky if your mail is one of the ones they have chosen to read because they can get 100 in a matter of minutes. So it is not that they are trying to play with your mind or hype themselves up, as much as it is you getting lost in the shuffle. As for something being in an email, they can not even remember usernames and passwords to put their old Line on a new phone. Most that I have ever talked to have no clue as to what their email password is. Even I have the email when receive message function turned off and I don't receive one tenth of the messages that chicks on dating sites receive.My bet is that girl won't get booked today for any amount of money even if she has 100 mesages in her TF Inbox. Or, if she does get booked, it won't be through TF. It will be from just walking around and reaching out to a potential customer passing by. At which point she very well might go for 700 baht.
I have eventually met many FLs who did exactly what that one did with XXL and the others in his screenshot are likely doing. They throw out a wide net, blanket that site and others with clicks or the first reply and then go back to helping their sister sell food cart noodles.
Funny thing is once I have coaxed and convinced them not to worry so much about how they look vs their pics and so on and to actually show up for that first session, from that day forward they are available to come over any hour of any day or night I Line them and tell them to come over.
And that doesn't count the amount of pestering I get from them every day, multiple times per day asking when they can see me again.
I am sure the 100 messages in their Inbox every day didn't suddenly stop after they had their frist session with me.
Unless Pattaya is wildly different than Bangkok in this regard, having 100 messages and replies in their Inbox might be good for their ego. But after you toss out the guys who are not even in Thailand, guys who are not in Pattaya, the guys who are just goofing around, the guys who have no extra money, are too shy or weird to meet or whatever, it definitely does not automatically translate into 100 eager customers waiting to meet and give her money for sex any minute now.
I doubt it even translates into 3 guys with money, time and the opportunity to meet today. And 2 of those guys are probably going to pick someone else if not all 3 of them.
Mr Enternational
06-19-20, 12:58
But after you toss out the guys who are not even in Thailand, guys who are not in Pattaya, the guys who are just goofing around, the guys who have no extra money, are too shy or weird to meet or whatever, it definitely does not automatically translate into 100 eager customers waiting to meet and give her money for sex any minute now.
Exactly. But they still have to weed through all 100. And just because he asked about how much does not mean he is in Pattaya. Guys in all these threads go around dating sites trying to line up chicks for when they get to whatever town. It trips me out when they make a report saying she wants this much. Yeah but you are 8000 miles and 6 months away. It is smarter to try to get prices and negotiate when you have boots on the ground.
I have said before that if you call down to the car dealership they are going to tell you the sticker price. You are just a general inquirer. If you show up with a bag of cash you can pay much lower than that price given on the phone because you are a serious immediate buyer.
Maybe it would be better if he starts off saying that he is in Pattaya to establish himself as a serious immediate buyer instead of only saying how much, which many bullshitters are probably doing as well? They may even start lower than 2,000 if he establishes his locality first.
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Maybe it would be better if he starts off saying that he is in Pattaya to establish himself as a serious immediate buyer instead of only saying how much, which many bullshitters are probably doing as well? They may even start lower than 2,000 if he establishes his locality first.Well, my locality was there for any girl to see in my profile. I had a translation in Thai in my profile but I erased the Thai after someone advised to try and look like a clueless newbie, not like an old-hand who already knows something of the language.
Anyways, maybe girls I message cannot be expected to check my profile. What can they be expected to do then? Not much it seems.
Mr Enternational
06-19-20, 14:27
Well, my locality was there for any girl to see in my profile. I had a translation in Thai in my profile but I erased the Thai after someone advised to try and look like a clueless newbie, not like an old-hand who already knows something of the language.
Anyways, maybe girls I message cannot be expected to check my profile. What can they be expected to do then? Not much it seems.LOL. Yeah they are not reading any profiles brother. You have to write whatever you want them to know in the message. If you have written something in your profile then you wasted your time. Remember these are simple uneducated farmers, not Oxford scholars. That does not just go for Thailand, but that is my experience around the entire world. I have been on TF for 15 years and my profile has always said Thailand, yet the first question I am usually asked is if I am in Thailand. Then I am asked how old I am. Yep. They could have read all that before they even said hello, but they don't.
A funny thing that I notice is that some chicks say "Read my profile first" in their title. Then I look and it says absolutely nothing. When I go over to Line and a chick asks my name then I send them this picture in response. They get happy and say how much you give me. I say you are looking how much. A picture is worth 1000 baht.
yet the first question I am usually asked is if I am in Thailand. Then I am asked how old I am.Maybe they read it and have had to deal with so many lying deadbeats that they have to check again? I hear that's a problem for them in the same way that we find out that they might be 10 years older and 30 lb fatter than they claim.
I treat them well, like if they were my true girlfriend! I even say them I'd love to fucl them very often, each time I come Pattaya! I love to kiss them, to lick their pussy during 20 minutes minimum For the favour you are doing the girls, they should be paying you dude. LOL. Just for laughs no offense.
Ass Addict
06-19-20, 15:38
The screenshot below shows my latest messaged girls in the TF outbox.
It can be seen that only 1 girl out of 5 showed an interest. Her Line pics were a big turn off compared to the pic she had on TF so I ghosted her.When a girl uses a phone number as a profile name there's a big chance that you can add her directly on Line by using that phone number. It was the case with that girl so you didn't need to ask her Line ID in the first place.
Ass Addict
06-19-20, 15:55
I have been on TF for 15 years and my profile has always said Thailand, yet the first question I am usually asked is if I am in Thailand. Then I am asked how old I am. Yep. They could have read all that before they even said hello, but they don't. Some guys put Thailand in their location when they are visiting Thailand and don't change the location once they go back home but still look at TF, that's also why they keep asking where you are located.
LOL. Yeah they are not reading any profiles brother. You have to write whatever you want them to know in the message. If you have written something in your profile then you wasted your time. Remember these are simple uneducated farmers, not Oxford scholars. That does not just go for Thailand, but that is my experience around the entire world. I have been on TF for 15 years and my profile has always said Thailand, yet the first question I am usually asked is if I am in Thailand. Then I am asked how old I am. Yep. They could have read all that before they even said hello, but they don't.
... LOL. The first thing many of them ask me is what is my name, which I not only tell them in the first sentence of my profile statement but it is also right there in my account name! And it is a very common farang name they probably heard 100 times.
Some guys put Thailand in their location when they are visiting Thailand and don't change the location once they go back home but still look at TF, that's also why they keep asking where you are located.Some of the apps must track IP addresses to prevent scammers or fraudulent posts like that. I was once temporarily banned from Filippino Cupid within a week of returning home with my location still set as incountry.
LOL. The first thing many of them ask me is what is my name, which I not only tell them in the first sentence of my profile statement but it is also right there in my account name! And it is a very common farang name they probably heard 100 times.Yep and then you need to have the exact same conversation a second time when you switch to WhatsApp etc.
Enjoy. G.
LOL. The first thing many of them ask me is what is my name, which I not only tell them in the first sentence of my profile statement but it is also right there in my account name! And it is a very common farang name they probably heard 100 times.That is a fair question. A lot of guys me and Mr. E roll with have aliases for use in Thailand and Philippines. Sometimes it's easier for girls to pronounce basic names. Plus if you got a stable of 100 girls you probably don't want all them having your government name if things go left. They probably can find it out if you use an Asian sim card or through your hotel.
The screenshot below shows my latest messaged girls in the TF outbox.
It can be seen that only 1 girl out of 5 showed an interest. Her Line pics were a big turn off compared to the pic she had on TF so I ghosted her.
The other ones either didn't respond or didn't do so beyond tossing me an offer. My pricing policy is not to go higher than 1500 (ST) but directly to accept 1500.1 out of 5 is good enough for an online dating site compared to the regular ones like tinder pof etc. But why do want to fuck a 34 year old. My preference is always 18-25 max beyond which is a mechanical sex experience.
Yeah, that's probably it.Here is one of the best working girls I fuck all the time each time I go back Pattaya! She worked in many many bars and gogos in Patt! In Soi 6 and Soi LK and many others! She loves to fuck! She's in my top 5 ! Last time I went in her bar and she gave me a nice blowjob in the bar in front of the other girls! Then she let me finger her and I kissed her with deep french kisses! She doesn't like kiss too much but if you really want she let you do! I was so horny, then I go fuck her in the room upstairs the bar. I paid 400 for the room and 1500ST for her. I know could pay only 1000 but she was good with me so I gave her 1500.
We did a great fuck and she asked me to come inside her pussy! I was surprised she asked me that! Usually I always do but girls don't ask!
Then quickly after we went to take shower together, and she let me fuck her again few minutes in the shower!
And now each time I go back Patt, she comes my hotel room directly and I don't pay barfine!
That is a fair question. A lot of guys me and Mr. E roll with have aliases for use in Thailand and Philippines. I tried that Secret Squirrel 007 stuff for a while too:
1/ I was too stupid to remember which lie I told to which girl.
2/ if the girls think I have nothing to hide then they can't threaten or black mail me.
3/ Any one who pretends that girls can't get our true identities if they seriously want to is only fooling one person, themselves.
Cheers. G.
Just like at the GoGo bars, there is a "game" to be played even on ThaiFriendly. And those who play it best, usually get what they want. And money is only one factor in this game. Hint: Some of the girls play the same game with you. This is not Soi 6 (XXL is Soi 6 aficionado) or GoGo bar where they have to sit and chat for drinks and commission and salary. So they don't need to get to know anybody. They also don't have that extra pressure from mamasan or the boss. If these girls are freelancing on their own, they will be more selective. I have a capture rate (response with price on ThaiFriendly of about 95% So out of 100 girls I message, 95 will give me a price. I have a kill rate (girls I fuck out of those who respond of 60% It goes lower because I start screening them after getting a price and their LINE and didn't like what I found. But anyways, yeah beef up your ThaiFriendly game.
P.S. The other ones you have on your screenshot are out of my specs in age, weight, or height.Here is the other 2. Just for you. I'll give them when we meet tomorrow. They are not my specs, but MP is always there when you need a helping paw or two.
Hi guys,
I picked up a lot of good intel from the members of this forum, which was a tremendous help for my visit to Pattaya last year. I will be happy to share some reports but I'm not sure it will be helpful right now as most of us are on lock down.
Lately there have been some mixed messages on the board, which directly affect my future plans:
On the one hand, I read that things are dry with no business for the girls so pickings are easy to the point that you can get 3000 baht gogo girls for 1000, and other girls for 500 to 700. According to this info, I will be booking a ticket as soon things open up to take advantage of this rare occurrence (lock down).
On the other hand, girls are so busy getting 100 messages a day that you would be lucky if they even see your message, let alone respond. In which case I will wait until things get back to normal before traveling to Thailand.
I would like to note that my experience in Pattaya when I was there last year (summer / low season), is that almost every girl that I messaged responded. It was also the case that if I just viewed a girls profile I would find that they also looked at mine and sent me an interest, even if I didn't message them.
I am in my early 40's and fit but by no means a 'hansum man'. But I usually paid between 1000 - 1500, some average, some below, some stunners. And I usually got messages from the girls the next day for a repeat. Though I opted to always look for greener grass which I now regret (with the stunners).
Which of the two is it?
Thanks.
GettingFedUp
06-20-20, 19:01
I'm just very nice guy with them, I treat them well, like if they were my true girlfriend! I even say them I'd love to fucl them very often, each time I come Pattaya! I love to kiss them, to lick their pussy during 20 minutes minimum and usually they let me fuck them bareback!Proof positive that romance is not dead.
GettingFedUp
06-20-20, 19:16
1/ I was too stupid to remember which lie I told to which girl."If you tell truth you don't have to remember anything" (generally attributed, probably wrongly, to Mark Twain).
"If you tell truth you don't have to remember anything" (generally attributed, probably wrongly, to Mark Twain).Interesting quote. Twain lied about his name too.
Proof positive that romance is not dead.But I'm true romantic boy! I just love girls so much that I love to make love with many girls! Even if I fuck a working girl, a pornstar and nice girl, I love them! My problem is I need change girls all the time even if I love all the girls with who I stay.
For example last time, I was for 2 days already with the same girl in Pattaya and we decided to go together to do a professional massage to spend the time. And when we arrive in the shop, my lady did the massage with the Thai girl, and me I did massage too with another Thai lady. And at the beginning I just wanted normal massage at 400 bahts (oil massage) and my girlfriend working girl was in the same massage shop like me.
And the problem is the girl who was doing my massage was very sexy too and I was horny. And she told me that I was horny. And she proposed me a blowjob. But I told her that I was with my working girl girlfriend. And she say me it can be a secret with a smile! And I told her to not make some noise that I didn't want my girlfriend working girl hear I fuck her! And she told me OK. She wanted 1500 and I say OK but I want fuck her bareback! And she told me OK. So we spent a very nice time together! We kissed a lot, I licked her pussy, and I fuck her in few positions without make too much noise. My working girl girlfriend didn't hear anything! At the end of the session, I was fucking her in missionary and I came inside her pussy! And I loved that moment because nobody in the shop could see she fuck with me, so she put again her clothes with my sperm inside her pussy! And then I went quickly to shower!
And finally I gave her 2000. She was very happy and me too!
Lately there have been some mixed messages on the board, which directly affect my future plans:
On the one hand, I read that things are dry with no business for the girls so pickings are easy to the point that you can get 3000 baht gogo girls for 1000, and other girls for 500 to 700. According to this info, I will be booking a ticket as soon things open up to take advantage of this rare occurrence (lock down).
On the other hand, girls are so busy getting 100 messages a day that you would be lucky if they even see your message, let alone respond. In which case I will wait until things get back to normal before traveling to Thailand.
I would like to note that my experience in Pattaya when I was there last year (summer / low season), is that almost every girl that I messaged responded. It was also the case that if I just viewed a girls profile I would find that they also looked at mine and sent me an interest, even if I didn't message them..
Which of the two is it?
Thanks.Any non hideous girl will be getting hundreds of messages regardless of C19 or not. Those that make Most Popular lists get litterally thousands of messages per day. These girls hear 'let's meet when I arrive next month' promises a million times and know that 99.99% will never eventuate. That's why guys on the ground have the advantage. 'I'm in Big C' will always win over 'I'm in Nebraska' as you found on your last visit.
Two options to reach the popular cuties:
1/ don't even worry about contacting the girls until you are in country. Then say where you are and what you want.
2/ if you must make contact pre arrival, keep it short and sweet. The hot girls don't have time to read about how you like puppies and sunset cruises. The aim is to get their number for use when you arrive, not hold a conversation.
Enjoy. G.
Any non hideous girl will be getting hundreds of messages regardless of C19 or not. Those that make Most Popular lists get litterally thousands of messages per day. These girls hear 'let's meet when I arrive next month' promises a million times and know that 99.99% will never eventuate. That's why guys on the ground have the advantage. 'I'm in Big C' will always win over 'I'm in Nebraska' as you found on your last visit.
Two options to reach the popular cuties:
1/ don't even worry about contacting the girls until you are in country. Then say where you are and what you want.
2/ if you must make contact pre arrival, keep it short and sweet. The hot girls don't have time to read about how you like puppies and sunset cruises. The aim is to get their number for use when you arrive, not hold a conversation.
Enjoy. G.You're totally true in what you say. But me when I find a very high sexy girl on facebook or other websites and when I really dream to fuck her, I usually try to contact her 10 days before I arrive Bangkok and Pattaya and to be sure she'll meet, I play the guy totally in love, who has big money who wants to make her happy and go shopping with her! I even propose her to buy her a nice gift before I arrive! And I say I'll give her big big money!
I don't do that with all girls! But when I really know the girl is very very sexy, I know there are many men who want same like me and some are already there! So I need be the one, and get lucky! And for that, I need say the girl I think only to be her boyfriend and give her big money and make shopping with her everyday! Then she'll not block me and she ll be very careful to stay with me when I arrive!
Because when high lexy girls know they have some stupid men LOL who are ready to do everything for them or become their sponsor, they're very careful and they don't want to miss this opportunity.
And I can say it works at 90%.
And usually I stay with the girl 2 or 3 days before I change city to find another working girl!
And we never speak about condoms, we fuck bareback all the time! And we spend really nice time!
I did that with so many girls!
Mr Enternational
06-21-20, 05:39
Lately there have been some mixed messages on the board, which directly affect my future plans:
On the one hand, I read that things are dry with no business for the girls so pickings are easy to the point that you can get 3000 baht gogo girls for 1000, and other girls for 500 to 700. According to this info, I will be booking a ticket as soon things open up to take advantage of this rare occurrence (lock down).
Sir, this is nothing new, so you are not taking advantage of anything. You have always been able to fuck a chick that works in a gogo for 1000 baht. That is not saying that you can walk into a gogo and offer a chick 1000 baht. That is to say that if you happened to meet a chick outside somewhere that you can fuck her for 1000 baht and then just so happens that she works in a gogo.
If I lined 10 chicks up side by side wearing jeans and a t-shirt, you would not be able to pick out which ones work in gogos, which ones work at kiosks in the mall, which ones work at AIS phone company. That is why I do not see the fascination around a chick simply because she works in a gogo.
Hell, I meet chicks that work in Big C now and worked in a gogo before, and vice versa. You are paying 3000 baht because it is a gogo, not because of the girl. A bottle of Dom Perignon costs $300 at a nightclub but only $100 at a grocery store. Is it somehow better because you paid $200 more buying it in the nightclub?
... they're very careful and they don't want to miss this opportunity.
And I can say it works at 90%.
And usually I stay with the girl 2 or 3 days before I change city to find another working girl!
And we never speak about condoms, we fuck bareback all the time! And we spend really nice time!
I did that with so many girls!
Wow! I wish I could be one third as successful here on the ground!
Yesterday I got busy on TF first thing in the morning and got the Line ID of the girl below for a same-day meeting, a good idea since those girls can scarcely be expected to remember a meeting the next day, much less actually show up to one.
On TF she had looked like a 7 or an 8. Her line pics showed her to range from 6 to 7 in looks.
As you can see from the Line screenshot, she was ok at 10:25 to meet me at 14:00.
After she didn't show up I phoned her twice and no one answered but oddly, she herself called me at around 15:00 to say something in unintelligible English. Either on purpose or by mistake her call was a video call, so I could have a glimpse of her lying on a couch. What I saw was in keeping with the lower ranger of her Line pics (a 6). No great loss having been stood up then.
To those of you out there who are wary of coming to Thailand lest they should get shunned or stood up by stunners, fear not! The plain girls, you know whom I mean, those girls who gave up their jobs as street vendors or laundry ladies to fill the void left behind when Thailand's lookers massively stopped prostituting, those plain girls are catching up. They can now waste your time like real pros.
GettingFedUp
06-21-20, 05:54
Lately there have been some mixed messages on the board, which directly affect my future plans:DazeUp,
I don't claim to be a TF expert, but I think the point was that the girls get a lot of messages and most of them are from people who are not in Pattaya and frequently not even in the country. TF allows the user to select where they are rather than using geo-location, so people select Pattaya even though they are not here. Girls get tons of messages from guys who are not around (and frequently have little or no real plan to visit but do it for cheap thrills) so frequently ignore messages because they cannot filter the genuine interest from the idle banter.
On the subject of travel plans, may I suggest you read a piece I put on the Bangkok thread a few days ago in response to an OP who was planning an August visit http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?2677-Bangkok-Reports&p=2458829 . Little has changed since apart from politicians chattering about entry (with restrictions) for "businessman, experts and medical tourism" and possible travel bubbles with a very limited, but as yet undefined, list of countries.
Mr Enternational
06-21-20, 05:55
You're totally true in what you say. But me when I find a very high sexy girl on facebook or other websites and when I really dream to fuck her, I usually try to contact her 10 days before I arrive Bangkok and Pattaya and to be sure she'll meet, I play the guy totally in love, who has big money who wants to make her happy and go shopping with her! I even propose her to buy her a nice gift before I arrive! And I say I'll give her big big money!
And usually I stay with the girl 2 or 3 days before I change city to find another working girl!You are talking apples and oranges. If I saw a girl on a website and I wanted to fuck her short time when I got to a place, then I would not be saying how I was going to buy her all types of gifts and take her on trips. What you are saying is the same as how people get scammed. The scammer plays on their greed.
Mr Enternational
06-21-20, 08:28
Wow! I wish I could be one third as successful here on the ground!
Yesterday I got busy on TF first thing in the morning and got the Line ID of the girl below for a same-day meeting, a good idea since those girls can scarcely be expected to remember a meeting the next day, much less actually show up to one. As you can see from the Line screenshot, she was ok at 10:25 to meet me at 14:00. After she didn't show up I phoned her twice and no one answered I seriously do not know what to tell you. Yesterday I met up with 4 TF chicks that I just started talking to yesterday. I did not meet up with all for fucking, but I did meet up with them.
The first lives around the corner from me. We found out where each other live so I told her I would come around to see her. It was taking me a while to get ready because I was going for a ride on my bike in the process. She wanted to know if I was really coming or bullshitting because she was about to leave to excercise as well. I got there and her and her friend came outside in their exercise gear. They said they would finish in about 2 hours. I told them that I would probably not be back for another 6 hours.
I left there and went to the bicycle shop to have a couple of adjustments made to my bike. I started talking to a couple more chicks on TF. I told one that I would come see her in a few minutes. She works in a massage shop on Thappraya. She sent me the location and I went up to sit aound with her for a few minutes.
I also talked to another chick that works in a salon. This chick was 100% my type. I told her that if her pictures were real I would come up to the salon and marry her right then. She said she would get off at 10pm and she could see me then. Towards the end of my riding (about 7 pm) I hit her up and she asked if I wanted to meet her at a coffee shop near her job right quick. I rode up there and met her. WOW! I told her that I would be back to get her at 10.
At 9:45 she asked if I really wanted to see her and if I would give her money. I asked how much she wanted and she said 1000. Come to find out this chick has not fucked in 2 years and has never been with a foreigner. She is from Korat and had her last boyfriend back home 2 years ago before she came to Pattaya. She was sizzlin hot and could not get enough of my dick being in her mouth. I dropped her at work this morning and slid her the 1000 baht. She said she would finish work today at 6 and would like me to go to Jomtien with her.
Right before I picked up the hairstylists a TF chick showed interest in me. Her profile said she was not a transgender. I started talking to her and we exchanged Lines. Talking some more and she asked if I forgot her already. I said what the fuck are you talking about? I do not know you. Then she sent me a picture of her and the 1st girl I mentioned the moment they walked outside to see me earlier in the day. I am so bad that I can't even remember meeting a chick on the same day. Turns out she wants some of this dick/money action too.
As soon as my neighbor finishes cleaning my room, I am off to the salon so the chick from last night can do my nails. 300 baht, hands, feet, and foot scrub.
I seriously do not know what to tell you. Yesterday I met up with 4 TF chicks that I just started talking to yesterday. I did not meet up with all for fucking, but I did meet up with them.I hate you.
Here the Kmart sale started and I jacked off to the underwear catalogue. So beat that. 😁.
G.
I seriously do not know what to tell you. Yesterday I met up with 4 TF chicks that I just started talking to yesterday.
Wow! I wish I could be one third as successful here on the ground!....
Full Mark's to E.
I've always said have the girls fit into your day. Don't change your day to wait for them. That way if there is a problem you can still get your stuff done or call in a replacement.
Plenty of guys waste a whole day or more sitting around waiting for girls that never show.
Enjoy. G.
I hate you.
Here the Kmart sale started and I jacked off to the underwear catalogue. So beat that. 😁.
G.In the middle of Kmart?
I seriously do not know what to tell you. Yesterday I met up with 4 TF chicks that I just started talking to yesterday. I did not meet up with all for fucking, but I did meet up with them.
The first lives around the corner from me. We found out where each other live so I told her I would come around to see her. It was taking me a while to get ready because I was going for a ride on my bike in the process. She wanted to know if I was really coming or bullshitting because she was about to leave to excercise as well. I got there and her and her friend came outside in their exercise gear. They said they would finish in about 2 hours. I told them that I would probably not be back for another 6 hours.
I left there and went to the bicycle shop to have a couple of adjustments made to my bike. I started talking to a couple more chicks on TF. I told one that I would come see her in a few minutes. She works in a massage shop on Thappraya. She sent me the location and I went up to sit aound with her for a few minutes.
I also talked to another chick that works in a salon. This chick was 100% my type. I told her that if her pictures were real I would come up to the salon and marry her right then. She said she would get off at 10pm and she could see me then. Towards the end of my riding (about 7 pm) I hit her up and she asked if I wanted to meet her at a coffee shop near her job right quick. I rode up there and met her. WOW! I told her that I would be back to get her at 10. .Happy Fathers Day to the Board. Thanks for posting pics Mr. E. I know your character and truthfulness has been questioned this spring since a lot of guys are unable to adopt your system. Thanks to you and MP who proved Pattaya can work during the Emergency Decree. The fact is more than 70% of the Board is not on the ground as much as you. A good trip is about being efficient. Mr.
E can get more done in Pattaya in a week than I could get done in a month.
GettingFedUp
06-21-20, 19:44
In the middle of Kmart?W, don't you know anything?
The underwear is in aisle 3, aisle 8 in the middle of Kmart is where the feminine hygiene product fetishishists do their business (I read it in a wikipedia article, honest).
Sir, this is nothing new, so you are not taking advantage of anything. You have always been able to fuck a chick that works in a gogo for 1000 baht. That is not saying that you can walk into a gogo and offer a chick 1000 baht. That is to say that if you happened to meet a chick outside somewhere that you can fuck her for 1000 baht and then just so happens that she works in a gogo.
If I lined 10 chicks up side by side wearing jeans and a t-shirt, you would not be able to pick out which ones work in gogos, which ones work at kiosks in the mall, which ones work at AIS phone company. That is why I do not see the fascination around a chick simply because she works in a gogo.
Hell, I meet chicks that work in Big C now and worked in a gogo before, and vice versa. You are paying 3000 baht because it is a gogo, not because of the girl. A bottle of Dom Perignon costs $300 at a nightclub but only $100 at a grocery store. Is it somehow better because you paid $200 more buying it in the nightclub?The range of looks, skills and services provided by girls who work in go-go bars is about as wide as those of girls who live in Thailand. Saying a girl works in a go-go bar says nothing about any of those qualities really. There are girls who work in go-go bars who get barfined and paid 3,000 baht or thereabouts once or twice a night every night, and for very good reason. By contrast, there are other girls who work in go-go bars who have not been barfined and taken by any customer for a month, also for a very good reason.
Boasting about getting a go-go girl who is one of the most popular, most often barfined girls in the most popular go-go bar in the city who actually does get 3,000 baht or thereabouts for ST every night of the week, but getting her for only 1,000 baht for LT on her day off would indeed be impressive.
However, getting another go-go girl who works in a poverty row dump bar with few customers and who rarely gets barfined at all for a 1,000 baht LT or for any amount of money including for free on her day off is not so impressive.
Using extremes here to illustrate a point. But there is an endless amount of variation and possibilities between those too extremes.
I might not be able to tell which slim, well-proportioned, 21 year old cutie wearing jeans and a t-shirt in a line up works in a go-go bar vs one that works in a mall shop. Or an ugly girl line up counterpart to that example, for that matter.
But I bet I can nail it pretty much every time if the challenge is to choose which go-go girl between two is the one who gets barfined every night and actually gets paid 3,000 baht or close to it every time and which one hasn't been barfined in a month (not of her own choosing).
Two bottles of Dom Perignon of the same year, vintage and so on are naturally going to provide a very similar if not identical taste experience. In which case, you might as well buy it at a wine shop instead of an expensive restaurant if you are going to open, pour and drink it at home anyway.
But there is no reason I can think of to expect any two girls who both claim to work in a go-go bar to provide a nearly identical sexual session experience if one of them regularly and often gets paid 3,000 baht for her STs while another one is lucky to get barfined once in a month and paid 1,500 baht for a ST.
Not that there is something better about one girl simply because she gets paid so much more money than the other one. That isn't the point. It is that there is very likely a blatantly obvious reason one gets paid so much more than the other, most probably in terms of their looks, weight, age, baby vs no baby, etc.
Unless we are talking about the exact same girl or two that are as identical as two bottles of Dom Perignon of the same vintage. But I am fairly certain we are not talking about that if the only similarity is they both do, did or might someday work in a go-go bar.
Full Mark's to E.
I've always said have the girls fit into your day. Don't change your day to wait for them. That way if there is a problem you can still get your stuff done or call in a replacement.
Plenty of guys waste a whole day or more sitting around waiting for girls that never show.
Enjoy. G.I totally agree with you! At the beginning I was waiting for the girls all the time, and each time they were late or didn't come and I was waiting alone in my room for nothing. So now I do my day like I want and when they're ready they call me and come my room. And I don't wait they call me to go fuck other working girls in massage shop. I just ask the girl to call me 30 min before she arrives my room to be sure I'm there. Each time I'm in Pattaya when I arrive on the first evening, I call them to come my room directly because I'm tired because of the flight and I don't want go outside and usually they all come. Some girls answer me quickly to come right away and some other are busy or come to me later in the night. Usually the first night I arrive Pattaya, I fuck 2 or 3 girls in the night. Each time on the first night it's girls I know for few years. For example each time I fuck these girls in Pattaya just when I arrive. You probably know them already because they're famous!
The range of looks, skills and services provided by girls who work in go-go bars is about as wide as those of girls who live in Thailand. Saying a girl works in a go-go bar says nothing about any of those qualities really. There are girls who work in go-go bars who get barfined and paid 3,000 baht or thereabouts once or twice a night every night, and for very good reason. By contrast, there are other girls who work in go-go bars who have not been barfined and taken by any customer for a month, also for a very good reason.
Boasting about getting a go-go girl who is one of the most popular, most often barfined girls in the most popular go-go bar in the city who actually does get 3,000 baht or thereabouts for ST every night of the week, but getting her for only 1,000 baht for LT on her day off would indeed be impressive.
However, getting another go-go girl who works in a poverty row dump bar with few customers and who rarely gets barfined at all for a 1,000 baht LT or for any amount of money including for free on her day off is not so impressive.
Using extremes here to illustrate a point. But there is an endless amount of variation and possibilities between those too extremes.You know it's not because you go in a gogo that the girls are like some high top model! Everybody say, the very sexy girls work only in gogo! Maybe it was true 10 years ago but not now. And I go very often to gogo to check the girls and most of the time, girls are not so sexy! In fact you can find sexy girls in gogo, or in a beer bar, or even in soi 6. I went to many gogos and the girls looked ugly! Each time I go in a gogo on 20 girls maybe you have only 2 or 3 girls very sexy!
And I never barfine a girl in a gogo. Usually I pay her a lady drink, and discretely I give her my Thai phone number and she gives me her line, or whasapp. And we meet after work or the next day during the day before she go work. I refuse to pay 2000 barfine in a gogo.
Each time I say the girl I prefer give her more money to her than to the bar. So usually a girl in a gogo ask 2000. I prefer give her 2500/3000 and she's happy.
HorseTrader
06-21-20, 21:01
But I bet I can nail it pretty much every time if the challenge is to choose which go-go girl between two is the one who gets barfined every night and actually gets paid 3,000 baht or close to it every time and which one hasn't been barfined in a month (not of her own choosing).Based on my personal experience, that 3000 baht go-go hottie will sometimes drop her price and improve her services for subsequent sessions that are arranged outside of the go-go bar. I've had true hotties drop to 2000 baht for second sessions. I had a less-than-hottie who was initially 3000 baht for first session drop to 1000 baht for a third session.
Although I haven't experienced it, I wouldn't be surprised if a younger, better looking, more charming, more fit punter could pull off a true hottie for 1000 baht if she was met away from a go-go.
Based on my personal experience, that 3000 baht go-go hottie will sometimes drop her price and improve her services for subsequent sessions that are arranged outside of the go-go bar. I've had true hotties drop to 2000 baht for second sessions. I had a less-than-hottie who was initially 3000 baht for first session drop to 1000 baht for a third session.
Although I haven't experienced it, I wouldn't be surprised if a younger, better looking, more charming, more fit punter could pull off a true hottie for 1000 baht if she was met away from a go-go.What was it about the less-than-hottie that convinced you to pay her 3,000 baht the first time?
Based on my personal experience, that 3000 baht go-go hottie will sometimes drop her price and improve her services for subsequent sessions that are arranged outside of the go-go bar. I've had true hotties drop to 2000 baht for second sessions. I had a less-than-hottie who was initially 3000 baht for first session drop to 1000 baht for a third session.
Although I haven't experienced it, I wouldn't be surprised if a younger, better looking, more charming, more fit punter could pull off a true hottie for 1000 baht if she was met away from a go-go.I totally agree with you. I stayed during 1 week with a girl from a gogo for 1000 everyday! And she was very happy and loved me very much! And I didn't pay any barfine! We had great time! The only problem is when you stay with her 24/7 you need find some excuse to leave her 2/3 hours to go fuck other working girl! And I was scared she knows other girls I fuck in Patt!
So when she told me she doesn't like Soi 6 and I think she didn't know any girl from soi 6, I was going fuck in Soi 6 everyday. I was going there when she wanted sleep in bed little bit or when she wanted go see her Thai girlfriends 2/3 hours.
Danny Duck
06-21-20, 23:18
Rainbow 2/4. There really are quite a few unattractive girls who work there. Surprise surprise they hardly if ever get barfined.
My thinking is maybe they get Barfined one minute before Bar closes. Maybe a Japanese boy panics on his last night. Who knows.
Mr Enternational
06-22-20, 04:31
Boasting about getting a go-go girl who is one of the most popular, most often barfined girls in the most popular go-go bar in the city who actually does get 3,000 baht or thereabouts for ST every night of the week, but getting her for only 1,000 baht for LT on her day off would indeed be impressive.It is not impressive at all. Boasting about getting ANY hooker is ridiculous. They are hookers. If you have money then you can get one. Sometimes no money is even needed to get one.
Once again you guys must be accountants because you are only thinking in numbers and you keep forgetting the personal aspect of them being people. They are not machines that if you don't put at least a certain amount of money in, then they will not dispense the product.
I don't know why you guys only see everything as business, business, and maximizing revenue with these chicks. One person can be fucking her for 3,000 and another person can be fucking her for free. The two can and do coexist you know?
Maybe it is a case of getting what you see. You go around seeing her as a chick that would be normally out of your league so you must give 3000 to her, and I go around seeing her as just a chick.
HorseTrader
06-22-20, 04:41
What was it about the less-than-hottie that convinced you to pay her 3,000 baht the first time?Fun personality.
Hello guys,
It's been some time since my last visit to Pattaya. Given the strange situation now it's not easy to look around for deepthroats. Anyone can shed more light on where I could find one?
It is not impressive at all. Boasting about getting ANY hooker is ridiculous. They are hookers. If you have money then you can get one. Sometimes no money is even needed to get one.
Once again you guys must be accountants because you are only thinking in numbers and you keep forgetting the personal aspect of them being people. They are not machines that if you don't put at least a certain amount of money in, then they will not dispense the product.
I don't know why you guys only see everything as business, business, and maximizing revenue with these chicks. One person can be fucking her for 3,000 and another person can be fucking her for free. The two can and do coexist you know?
Maybe it is a case of getting what you see. You go around seeing her as a chick that would be normally out of your league so you must give 3000 to her, and I go around seeing her as just a chick.I absolutely agree that boasting about getting ANY hooker is ridiculous. But that was not the qualifier that I applied to my example. In fact, it is somewhat the opposite of my point.
Someone suggesting that they or anyone else can get a bottle of Dom Perignon for $5 or free any day and every day as easily as picking up a bottle of Red Mountain or Thunderbird at the nearest liquor store as though all wine is exactly the same is also ridiculous.
If that were the case, no one would ever bother to make, sell or buy anything better than the rock bottom cheapest version of it you can find. I don't think anyone needs to be an accountant to recognize that.
Fun personality.That works for me too sometimes. But I don't know if I have met the bargirl who has such a fun personality that she can ask for and get 3,000 baht out of me when I suspect she would ordinarly go for 1,000 baht. I hope I do someday though.
This former regular of mine came back to Pattaya, alas only for 4 days in order to get herself a passport. She said bars were not reopening and she would be leaving to Russia soon.
https://thepattayanews.com/2020/06/22/proposed-list-of-rules-for-bar-pub-entertainment-venue-opening-released-by-thai-government/
EatALotOpus
06-22-20, 13:27
No irony in it if you consider why the people are homeless. Is it simply because they could not afford a place to stay as I would say is not the case of most? More than likely there is some other underlying issue. Is it because they burned their house down after smoking meth as the guy in Chonburi did the other day? Is it because they gamble away all the money that comes into their hands? I certainly would not want anyone living in a place of mine who was not going to respect and take care of the place.Well said Mr E.
Only item I'd add is that some just don't want to work. They expect the government to handed it to them. Irony is the city of Seattle build small houses for the people living in tents and what a fiasco! They refused to! So no! I don't feel bad seeing a Twenty something at the highway exit light with no apparent disability asking for help. Just before the so called pandemic we had the best economy engine going. Anyone wanting to work could, but no. They chose the easy money! F' them.
Rant over!
I absolutely agree that boasting about getting ANY hooker is ridiculous. But that was not the qualifier that I applied to my example. In fact, it is somewhat the opposite of my point.
Someone suggesting that they or anyone else can get a bottle of Dom Perignon for $5 or free any day and every day as easily as picking up a bottle of Red Mountain or Thunderbird at the nearest liquor store as though all wine is exactly the same is also ridiculous.
If that were the case, no one would ever bother to make, sell or buy anything better than the rock bottom cheapest version of it you can find. I don't think anyone needs to be an accountant to recognize that.
It is not impressive at all. Boasting about getting ANY hooker is ridiculous. They are hookers. If you have money then you can get one. Sometimes no money is even needed to get one.
Once again you guys must be accountants because you are only thinking in numbers and you keep forgetting the personal aspect of them being people. They are not machines that if you don't put at least a certain amount of money in, then they will not dispense the product.
I don't know why you guys only see everything as business, business, and maximizing revenue with these chicks. One person can be fucking her for 3,000 and another person can be fucking her for free. The two can and do coexist you know?
Maybe it is a case of getting what you see. You go around seeing her as a chick that would be normally out of your league so you must give 3000 to her, and I go around seeing her as just a chick.You two have very different mongering styles. ET is more like a sniper rifle and Mr E is more like a machine gun.
Mr E does not target a specific girl. He targets all girls and some happen to work in go-go bar. He is also patient. From what I read, sometime it takes months for him to get a date to a specific girl. This is how I read it and what he said makes sense.
If you are going to get a specific go-go girl for tonight for the first time, then I think Mr E's method will have very low success rate.
Tree Town was sorta raided Monday night by large group of Police and Inspection team. The Tree Town food stalls were fenced off and the Covid check tent was moved to the front by the Cocktail Car, which was closed. The crowd that usually gathered in front was forced onto the street and steps. Beer is served inside but only if you're eating. It didn't look like anyone was arrested. More info at.
https://www.facebook.com/Thepattayanews
Tuesday Night a smaller group of people gather in the area. The food carts were MIA early in the night, but a few returned after 11p.
Danny Duck
06-22-20, 23:14
I have the perfect solution to the conundrum about 500 baht Hot girls.
You have 2 categories to put your favorite AgoGo girl in. 500 baht or 3,000 baht. There is no inBetween bucket.
82.5% would be placed on 500 baht bin.
What say you?
Pimpampoumpipo
06-23-20, 11:58
Images are often better than long speeches https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e3BXN6q3ul0&t=117s.
She is a perfect candidate for Doggie position with that unbelievable tattoo and slender body, cherry on top if you do her in front of a mirror. Buddy you are lucky. Cherish her and plug her hard and make her scream.
This former regular of mine came back to Pattaya, alas only for 4 days in order to get herself a passport. She said bars were not reopening and she would be leaving to Russia soon.
Expat bars need expats, tourist traps need tourists. Now you can pretty much figure out what will open and will not. If it won't make money or break even, it ends will stay closed. Apply that to your favorite hang outs in Pattaya. It's that simple. Don't worry about the girls, Jody is here.
Work your fingers.
Right down to the bone.
There's a cat named Jody.
Sneaking around in your home.
There's a cat named Jody.
In every town.
Spending lots of cash.
And just riding around.
Ride on, Jody.
Ride on, ride on.
With your bad self Jody.
Ain't no sense in going home.
Jody's got your girl and gone.
Danny Duck
06-23-20, 23:36
Expat bars need expats, tourist traps need tourists. Now you can pretty much figure out what will open and will not. If it won't make money or break even, it ends will stay closed. Apply that to your favorite hang outs in Pattaya. It's that simple. Don't worry about the girls, Jody is here.
Work your fingers.
Right down to the bone.
There's a cat named Jody.
Sneaking around in your home.
There's a cat named Jody.
In every town..Say Baccara guys go bankrupt. New operators will get a deal with less rent, pay girls less, . More economical all around.
Pattaya will be back. Just who makes money will be different.
As for rules and regulations. The Coppers will have to figure that out. LOL. How do they maximize their income.
Let's all Pray & this happens real quick. Usually does when dollars at stake.
I like to go to Pattaya for seven days a year.
Would be a big loss without it.
Expat bars need expats, tourist traps need tourists. Now you can pretty much figure out what will open and will not. If it won't make money or break even, it ends will stay closed. Apply that to your favorite hang outs in Pattaya. It's that simple. Don't worry about the girls, Jody is here.
Work your fingers.
Right down to the bone.
There's a cat named Jody.
Sneaking around in your home.
There's a cat named Jody..I'm always a little ahead of the news and even the mayor. I posted yesterday, this came out this morning. Like I said, expats need expats, tourists traps need tourists and weekend warriors. Thai bars need Thais. So what do you consider yourself? They will try to see what's left here in Pattaya, and take our money even if it's for a few days. So beware of the cover charge if they decide to impose one.
My advice. As for the tourists traps like the GoGo bars, meet the contraction with contraction and consolidate into a few clubs with your best girls. Are you listening Pin Up? Night wish group the same. Biggest club, biggest stage and pack them in plus pay "them" off. Only problem is that 10 day contract and salary. And that many of these girls are making enough off TF with added freedom, they may not come back to fight over a few drinks a night. Who's left that can drop 5-7000 a night for 1 club and 1 girl? I've built of my stable already, and even Monkeypaw won't do that anymore. Maybe I'll drop by with my friends from BKK, Molly and her girls. Do a quick roll call and then do our own party at home. But that's it. We have our own Agogo back in the room. Lights, camera, and action.
"With the current ban on international inbound flights, however, foreign facing businesses that rely primarily on tourists will be forced to make tough decisions on opening and if they have enough of a local customer base to support their business. Many will likely stay closed until tourists are allowed to return. Domestic based businesses, like expat focused beer bars or Thai pubs who focus on local Thai residents are generally more positive and stating they are ready to open and confident they will be able to make a profit."
https://thepattayanews.com/2020/06/24/pattaya-city-mayor-says-pattaya-entertainment-venues-eager-to-open-and-ready-to-comply-with-proposed-rules/
Mr Enternational
06-24-20, 04:36
Say Baccara guys go bankrupt. New operators will get a deal with less rent, pay girls less, . More economical all around.
Yeah. I don't think you know Thailand very well. That place will sit empty before they give someone a deal with less rent.
Say Baccara guys go bankrupt. New operators will get a deal with less rent, pay girls less, . More economical all around.
Pattaya will be back. Just who makes money will be different.
As for rules and regulations. The Coppers will have to figure that out. LOL. How do they maximize their income.
Let's all Pray & this happens real quick. Usually does when dollars at stake.
I like to go to Pattaya for seven days a year.
Would be a big loss without it.It all depends on which bar you're talking about, and how long the owner of place can take the hit. Many smaller bars are already selling the property for much lesser rent, including few in NPE in BKK. Will it result in paying less to girls? Not necessarily. I am hoping you already had your yearly Pattaya trip this year because with all travel restrictions you might want to skip it this year. Also depends on which country you live in.
"All businesses and activities suspended to control the spread of coronavirus disease will be allowed to resume on July 1 - including entertainment venues and "soapy massage" parlours. Pubs, bars and karaoke shops will reopen, but must close at midnight. Groups of visitors will be capped at five people, and will be prohibited from joining other groups. Sales promotion activities will be banned. " Liquor sales from 5p to midnight at the bars.
Three nights later, bars will close again for a 4 day Buddha Holiday, July 4-7.
https://www.bangkokpost.com/thailand/general/1940316/all-business-to-resume-on-july-1
GettingFedUp
06-24-20, 12:19
Three nights later, bars will close again for a 4 day Buddha Holiday, July 4-7.JavaMan,
Not disputing what you say but the Monday and Tuesday are public holidays (Government offices closed) in lieu of Asarnha Bucha Day and Khao Phansa, as they fall on the weekend, rather than Buddhist holidays. Most times this means bars would be open on 6th and 7th. Just to confuse more there seems to be a bit of doubt about whether Khao Phansa (Buddhist Lent) is on the Sunday or the Monday.
https://thepattayanews.com/2020/06/23/thai-cabinet-approves-four-day-holiday-weekend-for-july-4-7-no-alcohol-sales-days-coming/
"Although not officially announced or clarified at the announcement today it is expected that the fourth and fifth will be no alcohol sales days as every Buddhist holiday. If the holidays follow measures taken in prior years, the additional government holidays will see closure of government offices but no alcohol sales ban."
Advice? Watch this space and the press nearer the time.
Danny Duck
06-24-20, 20:34
Yeah. I don't think you know Thailand very well. That place will sit empty before they give someone a deal with less rent.Can someone like LBM confirm this is standard operating procedure for legit Businessman.
I can't see how real Busnit dudes don't account for market forces.
I'm not talking about Hillbilly Somchai who won't lower rent for 10 years because he thinks his condo is the Bomb. LOL.
Hong Kong has really good Hotels at great prices. I'm sure me not allowed to enter has something to do with their price adjustment.
Franciscass
06-25-20, 03:18
Yeah. I don't think you know Thailand very well. That place will sit empty before they give someone a deal with less rent.There are some stubborn landlords out there. Initially that may be their response but if the property sits vacant for months on end eventually they will accept the new reality. A lot depends on how they are leveraged and whether cash flow is positive.
Yeah. I don't think you know Thailand very well. That place will sit empty before they give someone a deal with less rent.I think you overestimate the financial stretch most Thai still have.
I rent my condo now at 30% of the original price.
I took 4 businesses over last month, in general:
- I kept the staff: -20% on salary.
- Rent did go down with 40-60%.
Price for the takeover: the debt on those companies.
All are running profitable now.
Okay, it are not adult places.
But I assume it's not that different.
Did somebody say "legit business?
The groups operating in Nana Plaza, Soi Cowboy, LK Metro, Walking Street, Bangla and many of the other entertainment venues including Soapies are far from "legit. " Why do folks not know this stuff? Prostitution is illegal in Thailand, so take it from somebody who is on the inside, normal rules of business and "market forces" do not always necessarily apply here. If that's the case, the Man from Iran and his bars should have been out of business a long time ago. They exist for reasons unknown and maybe known by some. Remember, they are what they are. Cash cows and businesses pulling in a crap load of uncounted foreign cash with the backing of a few very well connected Thai elites.
They exist for higher purpose other than just employment. Just like so many sex tourists getting lured and trapped by Thailand's mystique to keep coming back over and over again, so do foreign investors who find it thrilling to be part of group that operates Go Go bars or sex venues. Many get their money scammed and taken. New bars pop up all the time on Walking Street to only close in less than a month or two. I personally know of a few guys who had their money pulled, thinking they can be part of the bigger picture, by throwing in 30-50,000 USD, in "expansion projects. " It's very easy. I invite you (an investor) to come hang and party at all the GoGo bars our group owns. You drink like crazy, fuck alot of girls, and enjoy the party. We are thinking about buying up this space on Walking Street to open another club because all our other clubs are so packed. This would be a great retirement investment and place to spend the rest of your life. Let me get my buddies at Immigration to get your long stay visa set up for free, along with a tube of KY.
And just because you have cash doesn't mean you get to buy into a GoGo bar on Walking Street. You must be invited to sit at the table for dinner. And sometimes that empty seat is just a big trap. Bars may have an "owner" per se, but can also have many silent partners who prefer to stay silent and sometimes have much more power than whoever stands "face of the business. " Sometimes these silent partners are much weaker and have invested their entire life savings thinking that they've jackpot. Only to become indentured slaves for the top dogs, given jobs and titled managers or general mangers. If you were lured as an investor, but found yourself as a worker. Might want to rethink those choices or your selection of friends. As for the "established" and those who don't work at all (you see them in the clubs), they don't have to worry too much about rent or new take overs. The rapport with the underground network has already been built and is long standing. They do however, have to still pay their employees, the electric, and water bill. This will factor to whether or not or which, opens up. How do I know these things? A little birdy whispered in my ear. But don't mind me, I'm just here to party, hang out, get massages, enjoy the girls and do a little charity.
P.S. These things are over the head of most sex tourists. Just enjoy your time here and don't forget to pay your bill. So to answer your question. Yes, Virginia there is such a thing as a pyramid scheme even in the Underground.
LittleBigMan
06-25-20, 11:45
Can someone like LBM confirm this is standard operating procedure for legit Businessman.
I can't see how real Busnit dudes don't account for market forces.
I'm not talking about Hillbilly Somchai who won't lower rent for 10 years because he thinks his condo is the Bomb. LOL.
Hong Kong has really good Hotels at great prices. I'm sure me not allowed to enter has something to do with their price adjustment.Mr. E, the position would be more right than wrong but as we all know the Virus has brought in a whole new world or norm? To me, there is like two schools of business one we all know from the West which is taught in basic business 101 which we at times assume everyone knows the basic concepts these concepts are commonly applied at big chain hotels like the Hilton, markets like Lotus and Big see, 7/11, Big Mac, BK, Top Chaeron you see the offer of discounts willing to unload stock to restock. The more time spend outside for education and living in the West the more basic following of Western business 101 is followed then there is another school of business I put under " the more patriotic the more stupid " this, of course, is what we refer to when you got no business you raise the rates the head of these companies or family want their siblings to stay in Thailand thus sending them to school only in Thailand. Here is the problem as I see it as my daughter in law she is Thai she is smart has a Master in Accounting from a Thai government school but outside of the books streetwise she is stupid can't even sell french fries. In the government schools, she was taught just like her teacher and professors just read the text but if principal and theory don't work then what like most experts on education in Thailand there is no critical thinking the look on their face is like " what the fuck should I do now ".
That being said let's take the Soi Baukhao and Soi LK area many of the properties are owned paid for cleared and free pass on now to the siblings of the LengKee family they just use to waiting and waiting because they feel their property is in more demand someone will pay plus the big incentive why they can wait is the key money is standard if you want the privilege to be able to rent a place. I wrote back about a place on Soi 7, restaurant Tequila Reef who decided to call it quits after 20 plus years for his 3-year contract they kicked out 1-2 million key money non-refundable that didn't include the rent each month that was six figures. Since I mentioned Soi 7, Soi 8 both are pretty much owned by the family of Estany Hotel group these are what I consider old school money the same school and money that runs Walking Street.
Two years ago rumors about the waterfront property being removed there was a major meeting with owners with the City and people from Bangkok. You take a good look at the old school guys that own these properties that showed up it was like a Mafia meeting of Godfathers after the meeting nothing the subject was dropped. You take owners of the old living Dolls club it will just stay close until they get what they want. What we called Business 101 market forces just don't apply but of course, that was before the Virus? We will see!
Danny Duck
06-25-20, 17:53
Did somebody say "legit business?
The groups operating in Nana Plaza, Soi Cowboy, LK Metro, Walking Street, Bangla and many of the other entertainment venues including Soapies are far from "legit. " Why do folks not know this stuff? Prostitution is illegal in Thailand, so take it from somebody who is on the inside, normal rules of business and "market forces" do not always necessarily apply here. If that's the case, the Man from Iran and his bars should have been out of business a long time ago. They exist for reasons unknown and maybe known by some. Remember, they are what they are. Cash cows and businesses pulling in a crap load of uncounted foreign cash with the backing of a few very well connected Thai elites..I give you C plus grade. Low because I marked you down for Believing to get along with girls from the Dark side you have to play Sigmund Fried mind games.
That being said let's take the Soi Baukhao and Soi LK area many of the properties are owned paid for cleared and free pass on now to the siblings of the LengKee family they just use to waiting and waiting because they feel their property is in more demand someone will pay plus the big incentive why they can wait is the key money is standard if you want the privilege to be able to rent a place. I wrote back about a place on Soi 7, restaurant Tequila Reef who decided to call it quits after 20 plus years for his 3-year contract they kicked out 1-2 million key money non-refundable that didn't include the rent each month that was six figures. Since I mentioned Soi 7, Soi 8 both are pretty much owned by the family of Estany Hotel group these are what I consider old school money the same school and money that runs Walking Street. Two years ago rumors about the waterfront property being removed there was a major meeting with owners with the City and people from Bangkok. You take a good look at the old school guys that own these properties that showed up it was like a Mafia meeting of Godfathers after the meeting nothing the subject was dropped. You take owners of the old living Dolls club it will just stay close until they get what they want. What we called Business 101 market forces just don't apply but of course, that was before the Virus? We will see!Not sure what this rant is all about, but Thailand is no different than other countries: premium properties are kept by wealthy families. It is in fact "old money". Thailand sure has the "property elite" - just as any other country. The LenKee family just got lucky; it was pure luck that this area wold develop into a sort of "new walking street" for mainly westerns tourists I Pattaya. The landlords are placed somewhere between a rock and a hard place right now, but they understand very well things will get back to normal. It is just a matter of how they should ease the situation for the many companies that rent their properties. My guess is as good as yours, but my guess is they will show flexibility or else risk their future. As I have understood the mind-set of Thai business people, they are very patient and they know things will get back to normal. Sooner or later.
LittleBigMan
06-26-20, 02:23
Not sure what this rant is all about, but Thailand is no different than other countries: premium properties are kept by wealthy families. It is in fact "old money". Thailand sure has the "property elite" - just as any other country. The LenKee family just got lucky; it was pure luck that this area wold develop into a sort of "new walking street" for mainly westerns tourists I Pattaya. The landlords are placed somewhere between a rock and a hard place right now, but they understand very well things will get back to normal. It is just a matter of how they should ease the situation for the many companies that rent their properties. My guess is as good as yours, but my guess is they will show flexibility or else risk their future. As I have understood the mind-set of Thai business people, they are very patient and they know things will get back to normal. Sooner or later.HERE IS WHAT IT IS ABOUT! It is no more an opinion asked by another poster! What you just wrote should I put that under RANT or an opinion?
It is your opinion Thailand is no different than other countries then I would put you in Mr. E category then you don't know much about Thailand especially outside the P4 P scene! Currently, we aren't talking about any other country than Thailand, and yes your guess is as good as MINE should I place yours under the RANT category?
The question was " market forces " nothing else it wasn't about how lucky the Lengkee or any family might have gotten I used two schools of business and tried to explained based on what I heard of the Lengkee and other old school money family that their siblings who now run things and this are my opinions they couldn't give a rat ass about easing things for ' companies " since many of their renters are individuals which happens to be foreigners. Their siblings were kept in Thailand to be kept 100% Thai so they would think just like their parents and elder who raised them and when it comes to property whether they got lucky or not which isn't relevant in the past would just let it sit but as I noted the Virus has opened up a new can of worms will they let it sit or take a reasonable offer when it comes.
Here is a personal true story from a few years back and I have plenty of them. A few years back a close friend who has lived here longer is married to a Thai and has a number of kids his eldest was 18 and his best friend just happened to be the son owner of Hollywood Disco (old money) it just happens one day that the official notice was from the father that his house now belongs to him and that he had a month to vacate at that time we had no idea this kid who has been visiting and playing at his house for years was the son of the Hollywood owner. His wife we found out borrow money from one of his loan sharks and defaulted on the loan when the kid found out he said he would talk to his dad, in the end, we went down to have a meeting with the father basically to see if we could work out a settlement?
When we met it was like sitting down and talking with my own dad or one of my Uncles, pure old school being Asian we felt we might get a break but in the end, my friend and I were just two foreigners and he got the upper hand which was the deed to the house. I laid out a pretty good deal which in the West of Business anyone would have taken but we were here in Thailand, I laid out the comps in his project and how many were empty for sale or rent and the prices the offer would have saved him the trouble of fixing and putting the place back on the market we had all the cash basically in a bag but instead of taking the deal he actually raised the price beyond what the property was worth leaving us no choice but to walk. I got up smile and thank him for his time but inside I was thinking you stupid old man today after 5 years the property is still unsold and not rented. He actually did my friend a favor because we found a larger and bigger house for him and his kids minus the wife this time from a German owner who thinks like us from the West! His house was on the market for 4 years asking price was 4 million baht, we brought 3. 2 million in a paper bag SOLD! That is how business is done in the West here in Thailand?
That is my opinion!
LittleBigMan
06-26-20, 02:45
Did somebody say "legit business?
The groups operating in Nana Plaza, Soi Cowboy, LK Metro, Walking Street, Bangla and many of the other entertainment venues including Soapies are far from "legit. " Why do folks not know this stuff? Prostitution is illegal in Thailand, so take it from somebody who is on the inside, normal rules of business and "market forces" do not always necessarily apply here. If that's the case, the Man from Iran and his bars should have been out of business a long time ago. They exist for reasons unknown and maybe known by some. Remember, they are what they are. Cash cows and businesses pulling in a crap load of uncounted foreign cash with the backing of a few very well connected Thai elites.
They exist for higher purpose other than just employment. Just like so many sex tourists getting lured and trapped by Thailand's mystique to keep coming back over and over again, so do foreign investors who find it thrilling to be part of group that operates Go Go bars or sex venues. Many get their money scammed and taken. New bars pop up all the time on Walking Street to only close in less than a month or two. I personally know of a few guys who had their money pulled, thinking they can be part of the bigger picture, by throwing in 30-50,000 USD, in "expansion projects. " It's very easy. I invite you (an investor) to come hang and party at all the GoGo bars our group owns. You drink like crazy, fuck alot of girls, and enjoy the party. We are thinking about buying up this space on Walking Street to open another club because all our other clubs are so packed. This would be a great retirement investment and place to spend the rest of your life. Let me get my buddies at Immigration to get your long stay visa set up for free, along with a tube of KY.
And just because you have cash doesn't mean you get to buy into a GoGo bar on Walking Street. You must be invited to sit at the table for dinner. And sometimes that empty seat is just a big trap. Bars may have an "owner" per se, but can also have many silent partners who prefer to stay silent and sometimes have much more power than whoever stands "face of the business. " Sometimes these silent partners are much weaker and have invested their entire life savings thinking that they've jackpot. Only to become indentured slaves for the top dogs, given jobs and titled managers or general mangers. If you were lured as an investor, but found yourself as a worker. Might want to rethink those choices or your selection of friends. As for the "established" and those who don't work at all (you see them in the clubs), they don't have to worry too much about rent or new take overs. The rapport with the underground network has already been built and is long standing. They do however, have to still pay their employees, the electric, and water bill. This will factor to whether or not or which, opens up. How do I know these things? A little birdy whispered in my ear. But don't mind me, I'm just here to party, hang out, get massages, enjoy the girls and do a little charity.
P.S. These things are over the head of most sex tourists. Just enjoy your time here and don't forget to pay your bill. So to answer your question. Yes, Virginia there is such a thing as a pyramid scheme even in the Underground.M. P.
Thanks for writing something I can't as you noted " These things are over the head of most sex tourists " I think everyone comes here not looking for trouble and just enjoy themselves and that includes me but it is tough especially if you live with Thais only everything you wrote I've seen it close up and that is why I do everything I can to avoid and keep to myself just enjoy while it last?
Danny Duck
06-26-20, 04:59
Can Pattaya support both Central and Terminal 21?
It's not like Central was overflowing with customers.
Asides from food places I just don't see a ton of buznit going on.
Wolvenvacht
06-26-20, 07:20
Prostitution is illegal in Thailand, so take it from somebody (...)Why do you say this?
Prostitution is not illegal in Thailand.
Soliciting, being a public nuisance, running a brothel and such are illegal. But prostitution, i.e. the simple act of providing and receiving sex for money, is not illegal.
M. P.
Thanks for writing something I can't as you noted " These things are over the head of most sex tourists " I think everyone comes here not looking for trouble and just enjoy themselves and that includes me but it is tough especially if you live with Thais only everything you wrote I've seen it close up and that is why I do everything I can to avoid and keep to myself just enjoy while it last?Leave this for the locals. Foreigners who try this crap often will meet a pretty bad end. Thailand lures, Thailand traps, Thailand punishes, and Thailand throws you away. Anybody looking for new condominium real estate in Pattaya? Pretty much same as the Thai Go Go bar girl mentality. The mystery of the Asian Mystique solved. I've always wondered why there are so many laundry places in Pattaya. Like I said, I post a day before and then something in the news the next day. If you look hard enough, you will get a glimpse of Monkeypaw with the captain of "brownies" during the big Treetown raid. LOL.
https://thethaiger.com/hot-news/crime/dozens-arrested-in-money-laundering-and-drugs-case
Why do you say this?
Prostitution is not illegal in Thailand.
Soliciting, being a public nuisance, running a brothel and such are illegal. But prostitution, i.e. the simple act of providing and receiving sex for money, is not illegal.Don't shoot the messenger. I didn't say anything of my own idea. Take it up with Google, Wikipedia, and every internet article that's says "prostitution illegal Thailand." Remember, I'm just here to party.
18 inch cheese is bigger than the 2 12 inch pizzas at most places. Sauce is pretty legit and homemade. Crust is a bit doughy for me. I prefer it with a bit more crisp. Bought an X large cheese for 420, took it home and reheated it in a pan to make it crispy. So far, I would say doing it this way, puts Bronx at my top pizza in Pattaya. So in this order for best so far. Any others I should try?
1. Bronx (cheese, original crust).
2. Pizza Company (veggie, pan, marinara instead of tomato sauce).
3. New York Pizza 3rd Road (veggie, original crust).
4. Dominos Tukcom (personal, pan, marina requested instead of tomato sauce).
5. Chill Inn Buakhao (margherita).
6. Pizza 24 Beza (seafood, thin).
P.S. Not sure if they remodeling or leased their fixtures and furnishings and are behind in payments. But it's a sad sight for sore eyes. Mini Cafe LK Metro.
Sir, this is nothing new, so you are not taking advantage of anything. You have always been able to fuck a chick that works in a gogo for 1000 baht. That is not saying that you can walk into a gogo and offer a chick 1000 baht. That is to say that if you happened to meet a chick outside somewhere that you can fuck her for 1000 baht and then just so happens that she works in a gogo.I have no doubt that what you are saying is true and is the best way to go, however, I think it is more geared towards people living in Thailand or people who spend long periods of time there. There was a clear difference between girls asking about 1000 baht and the girls in Gogo's asking 2-3000 baht, regardless of the venue. I fully understand that those same girls may have a hotter cousin or sister working at the mall or supermarket, but as a tourist with about 2 weeks to spend there, I'd rather get right to business with a quick transaction than to chase after cuties in malls with a 50/50 chance I may make a score, or may be offensive, esp since I don't speak any Thai.
The girls who messaged me after a session, I'm pretty sure that if I told them I only had 700 to spend they would still come over, its better than nothing, one girl even volunteered to come for less. But I have also come across girls who would not budge from their stated price, because with so many other punters around, it won't be long before they get what they are asking for and I have seen that happen over and over again.
Again, thanks for your input and I see that in your type of situation things are still the same, as it seems you live in Thailand.
DazeUp,
I don't claim to be a TF expert, but I think the point was that the girls get a lot of messages and most of them are from people who are not in Pattaya and frequently not even in the country. TF allows the user to select where they are rather than using geo-location, so people select Pattaya even though they are not here. Girls get tons of messages from guys who are not around (and frequently have little or no real plan to visit but do it for cheap thrills) so frequently ignore messages because they cannot filter the genuine interest from the idle banter.
On the subject of travel plans, may I suggest you read a piece I put on the Bangkok thread a few days ago in response to an OP who was planning an August visit http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?2677-Bangkok-Reports&p=2458829 . Little has changed since apart from politicians chattering about entry (with restrictions) for "businessman, experts and medical tourism" and possible travel bubbles with a very limited, but as yet undefined, list of countries.Thank you for this post, news is changing rapidly but I think this post should be pinned until things become clear.
I totally agree with you. I stayed during 1 week with a girl from a gogo for 1000 everyday! And she was very happy and loved me very much! And I didn't pay any barfine! We had great time! The only problem is when you stay with her 24/7 you need find some excuse to leave her 2/3 hours to go fuck other working girl! And I was scared she knows other girls I fuck in Patt!.Yes, I think a lot of punters agree with this. Some girls will get clingy if you repeat with them, that's why I think most would prefer that they see the door as soon as the hour is up. Most of the girls I was with had to be given hints to leave, some were happy to quickly get dressed and see their way out as soon as the session was over. I never repeated, variety is what I'm looking for when I travel. But now I know that if I find a gem Ill repeat, just not everyday, maybe twice a week max, if I had a bad session.
"The real tragedy of the economic situation will emerge when the bars actually open in Pattaya. Everyone will be naturally delighted but the reality will be there will be minimal customers available to keep the bars running. We are already seeing this with the massage parlors trying to attract customers that are no longer in the city. This brutal reality will continue through until tourists return back into the country". It is already too late for many bars. The For Sale signs are everywhere. The rest may try to make it happen with the restrictions in place. But that's like the police giving the foreign owned bars a noose to hang themselves. Thai police love to enable foreigners to break the law.
Tourist traps like the GoGo bars and night clubs need tour groups, weekend warriors, and big spenders. What's left are retirees, pensioners, a few stranded tourists, and of course, Monkeypaw. But even I am not about to to drop 7-10,000 baht a night like I used to. The experience is not the same. However a place to drop with my friend from BKK, Molly, is welcomed. But just in case some of the bars consolidate their staff and girls, try to open up for one last run at taking what's left in our wallets before they kick us out, Monkeypaw has his game plan already written.
1. No repeats. Not even for lady drinks.
2. 2 drinks max for any new girls I barfine.
3. No more than 2500ST.
4. No tip or drinks for the mamasans.
5. No making it rain.
6. No ringing the bell.
7. No ping pongs.
8. I don't care about your birthday and pinning 100 baht to your shirt.
I have my stable of girls already on LINE ranging from 1000-2000. One is a model from What's Up. Guess this is like living the retired life for me. Cheapie Charlie me. I had a feeling that phase 5 was more a reward for the local Thais versus Outsiders.
Leave this for the locals. Foreigners who try this crap often will meet a pretty bad end. Thailand lures, Thailand traps, Thailand punishes, and Thailand throws you away. Anybody looking for new condominium real estate in Pattaya? Pretty much same as the Thai Go Go bar girl mentality. The mystery of the Asian Mystique solved. I've always wondered why there are so many laundry places in Pattaya. Like I said, I post a day before and then something in the news the next day. If you look hard enough, you will get a glimpse of Monkeypaw with the captain of "brownies" during the big Treetown raid. LOL.
https://thethaiger.com/hot-news/crime/dozens-arrested-in-money-laundering-and-drugs-caseWrong link maybe? Doubt you were caught up in the drug and money laundering raid you linked.
SouthEaster
06-26-20, 21:11
"But now I know that if I find a gem Ill repeat, just not everyday, maybe twice a week max, if I had a bad session. " I would argue that a single bad session would automatically mean that she is not a gem, or worth repeating. Why would you?
SE.
Apologies if someone has already posted this. You might, or even might not, be interested in this Sky News report and video about unemployed "sex workers" in Pattaya. The one thing I took away was "No mask, no sex, no oral sex. " (yes, I'm sure that is negotiable). But I won't be going to Pattaya for as long as that is current mantra. Even if the borders were open. I really can't imagine fucking with face masks on, I'm just not into that. Looks like my dick will be staying in quarantine for several months more. LOL.
https://news.sky.com/story/how-thai-sex-workers-are-surviving-as-lockdown-leaves-them-with-no-clients-12014109
Danny Duck
06-26-20, 21:40
MP has to be an eternal optimist if there ever was one.
I'm not spending $4. 00 on a govt bus to get to Pattaya with nothing going on.
Even the you tubers got nothing to show but pure economic Devastation.
P.S. Govt should charge Dirt Farang twice the amount for the ride to Pattaya. Still a bargain.
The one thing I took away was "No mask, no sex, no oral sex. " (yes, I'm sure that is negotiable). But I won't be going to Pattaya for as long as that is current mantra.
https://news.sky.com/story/how-thai-sex-workers-are-surviving-as-lockdown-leaves-them-with-no-clients-12014109That hasn't been my experience. And from the reports posted from those still here, not their experience either. They talked to a lady on Beach Rd, I've never picked anyone from there. They also talked to a LB, also not my scene. Other than the one soi 6 babe refusing to meet because she's afraid, (at the beginning of the closures,) I've had no issues finding female companionship.
Wolvenvacht
06-26-20, 22:56
Don't shoot the messenger. I didn't say anything of my own idea. Take it up with Google, Wikipedia, and every internet article that's says "prostitution illegal Thailand." Remember, I'm just here to party.I'm not shooting you. Rather educating you.
And by now everyone should know that you can find everything on the internet. Did you know that there are even websites that state the world is a globe, while it is plain for all to see the earth is flat as a pancake.
But silliness aside, the websites that state that prostitution is illegal in Thailand either have a hidden (moralistic) agenda, or have no idea what they are talking about. Thai law is clear enough however. Read it for yourself at https://www.ilo.org/dyn/natlex/docs/WEBTEXT/46403/65063/E96THA01.htm.
I'm not shooting you. Rather educating you.
And by now everyone should know that you can find everything on the internet. Did you know that there are even websites that state the world is a globe, while it is plain for all to see the earth is flat as a pancake.
But silliness aside, the websites that state that prostitution is illegal in Thailand either have a hidden (moralistic) agenda, or have no idea what they are talking about. Thai law is clear enough however. Read it for yourself at https://www.ilo.org/dyn/natlex/docs/WEBTEXT/46403/65063/E96THA01.htm.Yes, you have pointed out and corrected a common misunderstanding of the Thai law regarding prostitution.
It might be clearer for some to think of it this way; It is not in keeping with Thai culture to punish a lady for recieving money she needs to help herself and her family in exchange for sex or to discourage a kind gentleman friend from giving her that money for sex. But it is very much in keeping with Thai culture to punish her for making a public show or spectacle of it. And to punish anyone else for promoting and benefiting from it as a commercial venture rather than to simply provide for a personal need.
What usually adds to the misunderstanding is when we hear about police sweeps of street girls, fines and even jail time for them. But that isn't for the prostitution. It's for creating a public nuisance about it.
And consider this. In all those sweeps of the girls I don't think they ever arrest the customers chatting them up or even walking out of a nearby short time hotel with one. That certainly isn't because the Thai police are cutting us farang P4P customers some slack and don't want to cause trouble for us. It's only because the act of paying money to a consenting adult for sex breaks no Thai law.
Mr Enternational
06-27-20, 03:44
Other than the one soi 6 babe refusing to meet because she's afraid, (at the beginning of the closures,) I've had no issues finding female companionship.What the fuck man. I know this chick from the disco that works on Soi 6. Right before the closure I was on Soi 6 collecting contact info and she was all over me. A couple of days later shit closes down. I contact her to come see me and it was the same thing. This shit has been all over the news for 3 months, but you only get terrified and will not come after shit closes down. Yesterday you would have been fine with fucking, but 24 hours later no chance in hell.
Mr Enternational
06-27-20, 03:48
The one thing I took away was "No mask, no sex, no oral sex. " (yes, I'm sure that is negotiable). Meanwhile, I am over here slapping my dick on chicks' foreheads and cheeks. Do not believe everything you read. Even when chicks show up to my place wearing a mask I tell them to look around at all the other people. We do not wear masks on this soi. Take that shit off.
I'm not shooting you. Rather educating you.
And by now everyone should know that you can find everything on the internet. Did you know that there are even websites that state the world is a globe, while it is plain for all to see the earth is flat as a pancake.
But silliness aside, the websites that state that prostitution is illegal in Thailand either have a hidden (moralistic) agenda, or have no idea what they are talking about. Thai law is clear enough however. Read it for yourself at https://www.ilo.org/dyn/natlex/docs/WEBTEXT/46403/65063/E96THA01.htm.So I bit, clicked, and read. There was the following.
1. A given definition of prostitution which was "sexual intercourse, or any other act, or the commission of any other act in order to gratify the sexual desire of another person in a promiscuous manner in return for money or any other benefit."
2. A given punishment and a given fine for the given definition of prostitution. "Any person who, for the purpose of prostitution, solicits, induces, introduces herself or himself to, follows or importunes a person in a street, public place or any other place in an open and shameless manner or causes nuisance to the public, shall be liable to a fine not exceeding one thousand Baht."
I am not a lawyer by any means, but doesn't 1 and 2 make "prostitution not legal in Thailand." Which was all I wrote. I didn't say it was my own perspective of what I personally think what prostitution is or isn't, which some of posters are trying to say, twisting and bending words to their own personal beliefs. Which is hilarious, because it's pretty much a sex monger's words versus the Thai government. I wonder who will win? If there is a written law and correlated punishment in place and writing, I'm pretty sure then it's an illegal act. To make it more simple, so you and others can understand. If there is not a law in writing like "doing jumping jacks in public space," which there isn't, then those jumping jacks in the public are legal and not subject to arrest or fine or imprisonment. So like I said before, if there is a law on prostitution, then it's probably not legal in Thailand. I said, I'm not a lawyer, but I do have a buddy who works at Siam Legal, who told me that the phrases, "any other benefit" and "or any other place in an open and shameless manner" is subjective to the Thai police which will be always right when it comes to a foreigner coming to their country looking for cheap sex with their females.
Also there is a big difference between "AND" versus "OR" if you or anybody is referring to the whole causing a public nuisance thing. I'm not an English major or is it even my first language, but I think this part is obvious.
Plus, from personal experience. Once I grabbed a last minute, standing at the exit door, girl from Insanity in BKK, way back in 2013. She was drunk and wanted to sleep first. I wanted ST which we agreed on for 2500 and for her to leave after. There was a disagreement. I offered her 200 for taxi to go away. She wanted the entire 2500 baht. She raised hell and called the police. Officers showed up at my Paradiso Suites Soi 10 reception. She told them we had sex and I didn't pay. We did not. I was a newbie still when it came to mongering in Thailand and a bit confused. They took us both to the Lumpini police station where a high ranking officer told me in English "prostitution was not legal. " I was fined 1000 baht for a report that had to be made and let go.
And if that's not enough. For you. This is an article 'FOR" the legalization of prostitution in Thailand not with any "hidden moralistic agenda" against. But what do they know? They are just Thai professors and researchers, that's all. Lastly, I also did a quick Google search using the words "prostitution legal in Thailand. " It came up with nothing. Then I did one with "prostitution illegal in Thailand. " Big difference. Thanks for the wild goose chase. I should have stuck with my immediate intuition. Luckily, I had a shit load of time in Pattaya to do nothing but relax because Soi 6, LK Metro, and Walking Street are closed.
https://www.nationthailand.com/news/30353452 "It is an open secret that, despite being illegal, prostitution is widely practised in Thailand. " (first sentence).
Wrong link maybe? Doubt you were caught up in the drug and money laundering raid you linked.I should have spaced out my thoughts and sentences. It should have looked more like this.
"Leave this for the locals. Foreigners who try this crap often will meet a pretty bad end. Thailand lures, Thailand traps, Thailand punishes, and Thailand throws you away. Anybody looking for new condominium real estate in Pattaya? Pretty much same as the Thai Go Go bar girl mentality. The mystery of the Asian Mystique solved. I've always wondered why there are so many laundry places in Pattaya.
Like I said, I post a day before and then something in the news the next day. If you look hard enough, you will get a glimpse of Monkeypaw with the captain of "brownies" during the big Treetown raid. LOL."
No way am I posting links to me with Pattaya news in ISG, haha. I hung out with some retirees last night in front of Central where the statue is and they recognized me from so many YouTube videos of Pattaya. I did not know I was in these videos. There showed me in many of the Soi 6, GoGo bars, Treetown, and Walking Street videos. Guess I'm famous in my little own indirect way. The article I posted was more of a reference to the beginning of my last post in quotes. You can probably read between the lines to why places like Walking Street in Pattaya or AC even exist for just 50 baht a kilo and next day service.
Plush Tiger
06-27-20, 06:39
Read it for yourself at https://www.ilo.org/dyn/natlex/docs/WEBTEXT/46403/65063/E96THA01.htm.From this link we read: "in order to gratify the sexual desire of another person in a promiscuous manner in return for money or any other benefit". The latter would make marriage and any other relationship illegal as well, since it people form couples for so many reasons including economic. Prostitution turns out as being more straightforward but the marriage is based on the same principles: exchange of goods, and services but geared towards the longer term and involving more parties (families and kids). But the tenets are almost the same for most men: securing a sex partner. Fact is that if you look well you'll find that most legislator struggle to find a definition for sex that does not apply to marriage and are more guided by moralistic principles than actual good sense and their only purpose is to try to deny the right for consenting adult to act as they please.
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