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"But now I know that if I find a gem Ill repeat, just not everyday, maybe twice a week max, if I had a bad session. " I would argue that a single bad session would automatically mean that she is not a gem, or worth repeating. Why would you?
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True, why would a person repeat a girl who has bad service?
True, why would a person repeat a girl who has bad service?I have had sessions that went nowhere and were so bad I aborted them early because the girl adamantly refused to comply with what I needed and wanted in order to make it worth my time and money. Then I got a Line message 2 days later from the girl telling me she changed her mind and would I please give her a second chance.
Sometimes a "second chance" session under those circumstances can be damn good. But I recommend making it crystal clear that if she doesn't do what she is now promising she will do and with the right attitude there will not be one baht in payment, not even taxi fare this time.
Looking at it from the "how much?" aspect of a session instead of the "what for?" aspect of it, wouldn't you agree to see a girl for another good session if the first time around she held firm at 2,500 baht but the next time around she offered the same good service and time for 1,500 baht?
The same thing can apply to the "what for?" aspect of a session.
Imo, repeating for greatly improved service is as good a reason to repeat as doing so for a much lower price, if not an even better reason to do it. But it needs to be locked in with an "or you don't pay anything this time" agreement. If she refuses to agree to those terms then she is very likely planning to waste your time and still get paid something anyway again.
Member #4698
06-28-20, 03:32
repeating for greatly improved service is as good a reason to repeat as doing so for a much lower price, if not an even better reason to do it. I have a slightly different take on this. If the original session was bad I wouldn't do a repeat no matter what the girl said or promised she would do the next time or how good looking she was. Fuck her. She had her chance. There are so many nice girls around. I don't see the point in wasting my time on a loser. But if the original session was ok, but just not great and I felt there was a sincere willingness on the girl's part to make it better and I really liked the way she looked, then I would do a repeat and have done so on several occasions. Sometimes a repeat under those circumstances can be very rewarding and lead to a real nice friendship. Ha Ha. But I got to feel that sincerity to please on the girl's part and the room for improvement or else there is no point.
On the flip side, I have occasionally had first night sessions that were fucking amazing and I really looked forward to repeating with the girl, but every once in a while that highly anticipated repeat turns out to be a big let down. Go figure. Although come to think of it, one of the last times something like that happened to me was when I barfined the original girl's girl friend in between our two nights together. Apparently the original girl did not like my barfining her friend which she made abundantly clear to me on our 2nd night together. So, she made passionate love to me the 1st night and on our 2nd night she was an assembly line - very mechanical. For example: we bareback shagged in the shower with only my feet on the tile floor the 1st night vrs. covered sex in the bed, no DFK the 2nd night. At the time I felt the entire 3 night experience was comical and depressing so I dropped both girls. Ha Ha, but looking back it was a great punting memory, especially that all in 1st night with the original girl. I only wish there could have been a couple more sessions like that first night. I guess I blew it. But I should add that I met both girls at the same time and there was talk of a ménage a trois before I decided to take the original girl first and do her friend later so technically I did nothing that anyone should have gotten upset about. But then I am not a 18 year old Khmer hostess girl, so what do I know. 555.
Houston Player
06-28-20, 04:40
I never repeated, variety is what I'm looking for when I travel. But now I know that if I find a gem Ill repeat, just not everyday, maybe twice a week max, if I had a bad session.There have been several posts now responding to Dazeup's post about repeating after a bad session. I believe we have misinterpreted the meaning of his post. Originally I had the same thought as others, why would you repeat a bad session. After reading his post a second time I believe his intent was to say that he rarely repeats, but after having a bad session instead of taking another new girl he will repeat with one of his better sessions in order to not have 2 bad sessions in a row.
I could be wrong, LOL.
Mr Enternational
06-28-20, 06:02
I have no doubt that what you are saying is true and is the best way to go, however, I think it is more geared towards people living in Thailand or people who spend long periods of time there.Living somewhere or being a long time visitor has nothing to do with nothing. I say this because I do the same thing everywhere I go. This is part of a report from 2007, my first and only time in Dubai. We left with some Ethiopian chicks out of a pick-up disco and went back to their place without discussing money or anything. These chicks started out wanting 1000 dirham, which at today's rate is US $272. We got them down to 150 dirham, or US $40 at today's rate. We spent the night at their place, me, my wingman, and the 2 chicks, all in the same bed.
we got deeper into our girls. we took their breasts out and started sucking them. i reached over to feel the tits of my wingmans 20-year-old girl. how supple they were. then it was back to dfk and ass grabbing. i started putting my hands inside of her pants in order to see how smooth her ass was. just then, out of nowhere, the subject of money came up! what a mood ruiner. they started with a number but it was in no way magic. 1000. be serious. i countered with 150. they laughed, but finally came down to 500. this is the part of the game where me and my wingman play good-monger, bad-monger.
my girl questioned why we would not give them at least 500. she said that the other guy had just parted with 1000 for their roommate. i told her that its a good thing for me that i was not the other guy. they went on to explain to us how they have to pay 4500 dirham/month for the apartment and 1000 (i dont remember if it was dollars or dirham) every three months for a visa. i was thinking to myself that surely this roach motel does not cost 4500 dirham/month. that is more than my fucking mortgage.
my wingman took over negotiations and using the classic line (havent you ever heard the saying that some money is better than no money?) that he uses worldwide was able to seal the deal at 150 dirham for each of them.
There was a clear difference between girls asking about 1000 baht and the girls in Gogo's asking 2-3000 baht, regardless of the venue. I fully understand that those same girls may have a hotter cousin or sister working at the mall or supermarket, but as a tourist with about 2 weeks to spend there, I'd rather get right to business with a quick transaction than to chase after cuties in malls with a 50/50 chance I may make a score, or may be offensive, esp since I don't speak any Thai.The thing is that this is Pattaya. You do not need a gogo to get right to business. You only need a gogo to fleece you of your money. 90% of the chicks you fix your eyes to here are on the game. That means there is no chasing and no Thai is needed (most speak English anyway. I don't know where it comes from that English is not common among chicks in Pattaya). See a chick walking down the street or in a store and it is simply where are you going? (The first chick I fucked in Thailand (Angels Disco, Nana Hotel, Bangkok 2005) told me the most important thing you need to know to pick up chicks in Thailand is Where are you going; and she taught me to say it in Thai. The first Thai words I learned.) I am going with you.
You see a cutie in the mall. It is simply, what time you finish work; I want to meet with you. It is shooting fish in a barrel that does not have water in it. You can not miss. I have made report after report after report of this nature. If you are shy or whatever and have a fear of approaching a woman unless it is in a hooker den, then that is a horse of another color.
The girls who messaged me after a session, I'm pretty sure that if I told them I only had 700 to spend they would still come over, its better than nothing, one girl even volunteered to come for less. But I have also come across girls who would not budge from their stated price, because with so many other punters around, it won't be long before they get what they are asking for and I have seen that happen over and over again.Chicks have messaged me wanting to come, and me not wanting to be bothered have told them I do not have any money. At which time they have said not to worry about money and that everything is not about money.
I fucked a chick the other day that wanted 1000 for short time. I told her that long time is 1000 and short time is 700. She opted for short time. I went to her room and fucked her. I told her that from now on I was only giving her 500 for short time and she agreed.
I think it all comes down to mongering style. A lot of times I read guys saying it is only an X baht difference. Don't go home wishing you had just went ahead and paid it. The truth of the matter is that today I remember none of the girls that would not budge. My mongering style is to get right to the point. Let's go fuck. How much do you want? If a chick does not want to accept what I am willing to pay or I am not willing to pay what she will accept, then it goes in one ear and out the other and I simply move to the next. There is no regretting and harping on it was only X more baht and could have possibly been the mother of all mongering sessions. Maybe for a guy that has to have some needle in a haystack he was seeking out that it took him 3 days to find, but I have never seen a turtle with speed or a chick that I need. And here in Thailand, there are so many chicks that will accept what I am paying, that a beat is not skipped if I don't reach an agreement with one.
Now if my mongering style was to be caked up in some bar or gogo or even disco plying a chick with drinks, aka making an investment trying to establish some chemistry, rapport, or whatever else, then the it is only an X baht difference may come into play. Hell, I would have already invested so much time and money in the chick, so sure then maybe go ahead and pay it. Good thing for me is that I am not that kind of monger. I prefer the no investment speed dating style over the investment courtship style. If she will not budge, then I have lost nothing, and I remember it the same way as I remember what I had for lunch on January 16th.
I have a slightly different take on this. If the original session was bad I wouldn't do a repeat no matter what the girl said or promised she would do the next time or how good looking she was. Fuck her. She had her chance. There are so many nice girls around. I don't see the point in wasting my time on a loser. But if the original session was ok, but just not great and I felt there was a sincere willingness on the girl's part to make it better and I really liked the way she looked, then I would do a repeat and have done so on several occasions. Sometimes a repeat under those circumstances can be very rewarding and lead to a real nice friendship. Ha Ha. But I got to feel that sincerity to please on the girl's part and the room for improvement or else there is no point.
On the flip side, I have occasionally had first night sessions that were fucking amazing and I really looked forward to repeating with the girl, but every once in a while that highly anticipated repeat turns out to be a big let down. Go figure. Although come to think of it, one of the last times something like that happened to me was when I barfined the original girl's girl friend in between our two nights together. Apparently the original girl did not like my barfining her friend which she made abundantly clear to me on our 2nd night together. So, she made passionate love to me the 1st night and on our 2nd night she was an assembly line - very mechanical. For example: we bareback shagged in the shower with only my feet on the tile floor the 1st night vrs. covered sex in the bed, no DFK the 2nd night. At the time I felt the entire 3 night experience was comical and depressing so I dropped both girls. Ha Ha, but looking back it was a great punting memory, especially that all in 1st night with the original girl. I only wish there could have been a couple more sessions like that first night. I guess I blew it. But I should add that I met both girls at the same time and there was talk of a mnage a trois before I decided to take the original girl first and do her friend later so technically I did nothing that anyone should have gotten upset about. But then I am not a 18 year old Khmer hostess girl, so what do I know. 555.I agree with you about "Fuck her. She had her chance" and not repeating under any circumstances if the session was bad for reasons beyond her stopping everything cold at the moment of penetration because a "go with the flow in the room" approach went horribly bad for me and she would in no way go for, lay there for or allow BBFS+CIP or replace it with BBBJ+CIM, which is what I was alluding to in my example.
At that point, the session is over and I will pay her something for her time and whatever else we've done up to that point, on a case by case basis. Often I will pay the entire going rate or what we agreed on. My bad for "going with the flow in the room" instead of making the "what for?" part of the arrangement as clear as possible upfront.
In which case the girl changing her mind later and wanting a second chance is fine, can even be great. But she would need to agree to those "if I don't, then you don't pay me anything" terms. I have also worked a lower payment into second chance sessions like that.
I have definitely had the second session go the way you described after taking a girl's friend or even just another girl in the same bar when the first girl wasn't around! LOL. Hell, I've had girls I've taken 4 times say NO to a fifth time after I dared to take another girl from the same bar in between.
Thumbs down!
This place is the last place before reaching Soi Bukhao.
I picked a girl and we agreed on bumbum for 1000.
When I asked for 69 she said anything apart from 69. Just my luck. I asked if menses was the problem she said no. Stubborn as a pig.
Was she a LB and that was why she didn't want any position that afforded close scrutiny? Didn't look like a LB at all though.
I gave her 200 and left to have a foot massage in Soi Bukhao.
Thumbs down!
This place is the last place before reaching Soi Bukhao.
I picked a girl and we agreed on bumbum for 1000.
When I asked for 69 she said anything apart from 69. Just my luck. I asked if menses was the problem she said no. Stubborn as a pig.
Was she a LB and that was why she didn't want any position that afforded close scrutiny? Didn't look like a LB at all though.
I gave her 200 and left to have a foot massage in Soi Bukhao.Was she a 1000 baht quality girl? Usually, girls know their own worth and all it takes is a few more hundreds to get what you want. Maybe due to the recession in Pattaya and she wasn't able to get her ass waxed, and she didn't want you to see?
There have been several posts now responding to Dazeup's post about repeating after a bad session. I believe we have misinterpreted the meaning of his post. Originally I had the same thought as others, why would you repeat a bad session. After reading his post a second time I believe his intent was to say that he rarely repeats, but after having a bad session instead of taking another new girl he will repeat with one of his better sessions in order to not have 2 bad sessions in a row.
I could be wrong, LOL.Yeah, thanks HP, that's exactly what I meant. The only time I would consider repeating is if I had a bad session and didn't want to risk another one with a new girl. But Thai girls almost always came through with good service.
Variety is appealing, I sessioned with a black girl, a Filipina (not much for variety in Thailand I guess) and considered a Hispanic and white chic but their looks didn't really match the premium they were asking for the variety aspect they were offering.
One reason why I regret the no repeat rule was there was this one girl in her early thirties that I found online. I shoot for younger but she had a nice exotic look about her and a very nice body. I told her you have a nice body and she responded; I know. After we agreed on price she asked me for a pic. I sent her a full body pic without showing my face. She says she needs the face pic. I asked her what she needs the face pic for, were not dating, its an ST thing. She says she won't come without a face pic. So I send her another pic with my eyes blurred out. She sends an angry face and says that she can't see my face properly, LOL. I say F her to myself and ignore her, thinking shell eventually message me about location. She doesn't LOL. So eventually after about 2 hours I give in and she wins, I send her a face pic. We agree on a time.
When she walks through the door, she is very elegant, she looks better than her pics. She's wearing a very nice long dress so I can't make out the body that much, but it added to the aura of class and elegance about her (yeah, I know she is a hooker, but goes to show.). We so small talk for a while before getting down to business.
There was no rush at all, she gave this unforgettable slow BJ and alternated between a slow sensual BJ and a slow sensual HJ in exact intervals, you would have though she was timing it with a stopwatch. I let her have full control of the action after that experience and just let her lead the way to see what else she would do. Stellar session it was, her body was as beautiful as the pics she sent. She had a darker tone to her, I'm not familiar with the areas in Thailand but it was just the perfect complexion in my opinion.
After the session and she showered, she stuck around for some conversation. I usually try not to talk much and give short answers so as to give them the hint there's nothing else going on here and its time to go. But she just looked so nice and exotic in that dress and the conversation was intelligent, I was enjoying it. I asked her if she wanted anything to drink, but when I opened the fridge I had nothing but water left. We talked until she said she had to go about an hour or so later.
The next day she messaged and I ignored her looking for that greener grass. I would definitely repeat with her or a girl like her again in the future. Hopefully wouldn't click to the point of attachment and get stuck with her like an idiot, but it is definitely a possibility that I would be that idiot and let that happen if she kept going on like that.
This is part of a report from 2007, my first and only time in Dubai. We left with some Ethiopian chicks out of a pick-up disco and went back to their place without discussing money or anything. These chicks started out wanting 1000 dirham, which at today's rate is US $272. We got them down to 150 dirham, or US $40 at today's rate. We spent the night at their place, me, my wingman, and the 2 chicks, all in the same bed. This is what I don't understand about the Dubai, the nut case prices. A few sessions in Dubai for the prices girls are asking and guys are paying would pay for a round trip to Thailand including bed and breakfast. Can't get my head around the $300+ prices that are being paid there. The lowest I could get a girl for in Dubai while I was transiting there was a massage and FS by a Viet girl at my hotel for 400 dhs. I didn't pay for her cab fare and the service was good, but it was 3 or 4 times the cost of what you would pay in Thailand for the same experience.
You usually post pics of cuties Mr E but those girls don't look like they should be getting more than $20 in my opinion. Dubai is nuts!
The thing is that this is Pattaya. You do not need a gogo to get right to business. You only need a gogo to fleece you of your money. 90% of the chicks you fix your eyes to here are on the game. That means there is no chasing and no Thai is needed (most speak English anyway. I don't know where it comes from that English is not common among chicks in Pattaya). See a chick walking down the street or in a store and it is simply where are you going? (The first chick I fucked in Thailand (Angels Disco, Nana Hotel, Bangkok 2005) told me the most important thing you need to know to pick up chicks in Thailand is Where are you going; and she taught me to say it in Thai. The first Thai words I learned.) I am going with you. LOL, words I will never forget: "Where you goooo. " This is news to me, thanks for the info, I had no idea the majority of the girls were P4P, I saw many cute girls in their workplace, including a stunning receptionist and an even cuter dentist. Some of the waitresses were pretty as well. Will try this the next time I'm there, if ever. Hopefully I won't get jumped by a mob of angry Thai dudes. If I do, I hope you're around to make it up with a beer while I tell you the story.
I fucked a chick the other day that wanted 1000 for short time. I told her that long time is 1000 and short time is 700. She opted for short time. I went to her room and fucked her. I told her that from now on I was only giving her 500 for short time and she agreed. Will be my strategy going forward. Wonder if this works with outcall as well. I don't like going to the girls rooms.
I think it all comes down to mongering style. A lot of times I read guys saying it is only an X baht difference. Don't go home wishing you had just went ahead and paid it. The truth of the matter is that today I remember none of the girls that would not budge. There was a model looking girl that I met online that wouldn't budge from 3000, she started with 5000. I regret not paying the 3000, but then again maybe that because I'm not in monger playland right now, I was too busy for regrets while I was there. She kept sending me these amazing nude pics and vids to entice me, I will leave that report for the BKK thread since this was in BKK.
18-inch cheese is bigger than two 12-inch pizzas at most places. Sauce is pretty legit and homemade. Crust is a bit doughy for me. I prefer it with a bit more crisp. Bought an XL cheese for 420, took it home and reheated it in a pan to make it crispy. Doing it this way puts Bronx at my top pizza in Pattaya. So in this order for best so far. Any others I should try?I agree with Mr. Paw that Bronx Pizza makes some mighty tasty pizza. The 18-inch pie is not cheap at 420-475 baht (depending on toppings). But that is one ginormous pie -- easily enough to last several days using a skillet to reheat the slices as needed. (Don't use the microwave. It makes the pizza soggy and limp.) I prefer the "chew" in Bronx Pizza's crust, which is the "New York pizza" crust that I like. But if you prefer a crispier texture, just ask them and they'll leave your pie in the oven a trifle longer. As for what Mr. Paw should try next, I recommend their Bronx Pizza, which features Italian sausage, green pepper and onion.
https://bronxpizzapattaya.com/
This is what I don't understand about the Dubai, the nut case prices. A few sessions in Dubai for the prices girls are asking and guys are paying would pay for a round trip to Thailand including bed and breakfast. Can't get my head around the $300+ prices that are being paid there. The lowest I could get a girl for in Dubai while I was transiting there was a massage and FS by a Viet girl at my hotel for 400 dhs. I didn't pay for her cab fare and the service was good, but it was 3 or 4 times the cost of what you would pay in Thailand for the same experience.
You usually post pics of cuties Mr E but those girls don't look like they should be getting more than $20 in my opinion. Dubai is nuts!
LOL, words I will never forget: "Where you goooo. " This is news to me, thanks for the info, I had no idea the majority of the girls were P4P, I saw many cute girls in their workplace, including a stunning receptionist and an even cuter dentist. Some of the waitresses were pretty as well. Will try this the next time I'm there, if ever. Hopefully I won't get jumped by a mob of angry Thai dudes. If I do, I hope you're around to make it up with a beer while I tell you the story.
Will be my strategy going forward. Wonder if this works with outcall as well. I don't like going to the girls rooms.
There was a model looking girl that I met online that wouldn't budge from 3000, she started with 5000. I regret not paying the 3000, but then again maybe that because I'm not in monger playland right now, I was too busy for regrets while I was there. She kept sending me these amazing nude pics and vids to entice me, I will leave that report for the BKK thread since this was in BKK.I'll never pay a Thai girl less than 1000. I don't want to become bad boy and exploit the girl too much! I think 1000 is a very good price. Even 1500 is good. But what I want absolutely is BBFS CIP. I fuck only bareback!
Danny Duck
06-28-20, 22:31
Was she a 1000 baht quality girl? Usually, girls know their own worth and all it takes is a few more hundreds to get what you want. Maybe due to the recession in Pattaya and she wasn't able to get her ass waxed, and she didn't want you to see?Never Truer words said.
Girls know what a guy will pay for Sex with her. Not her gorgeous friend.
Please people these girls are not the idiots many make them out to be.
Had a nice going away dinner and chat with XXL and another guy from PA at Jolly's on Soi Boo Cow. We were the only people there from 7 until about 8 pm. Thanks to XXL for the treat. The guy is pretty legit and quite young in spirit for some one his age. He sees a girl he likes and has no problem going up to her and trying. Not saying he succeeds all the time, but the fact that he keeps trying is something worth mentioning. Tall Russian chick with 4 muscle heads surrounding her or not, XXL doesn't give a damn. We usually meet regularly at Treetown before the raids and even dropped on 4/20 at a little get together held by guys from PA. My first time rolling with a group like that. Very spiritual 3 hours. Anyways, have a good trip back Europe XXL.
Does this just leave me as the "Last Weekend Warrior" in Pattaya in the whole wide world? Maybe I should just say "Warrior" since I do this for way much longer than a weekend. I've met a bunch of stranded tourists in the last 4 months. But when we share stories about Pattaya, they look at me in awe. My stories at the Go Go bars seem unbelievable to them. Lord, forbid we share pics of the quality of girls we've hunted, which we did. I figure it would come down to this. Just Monkeypaw, the models, the coyotes, and the GoGo bars if they dare to open on Wednesday. Saw a couple of bars at LK Metro doing some cleaning, but not sure what for. Let's see what they do or if they have the guts to try to open.
1. Beach Road girls / ladyboys Sunday to Thurs about 100 of them from Pattaya Klang to bit past Royal Garden. Friday and Saturday much less due to locals swarming the beach on the weekend. Few hookers on Buakhao now, still quite a few LBs around that area and that massage street next to Lengkee.
2. 99% Indian restaurants still closed. Chinese seafood places as well.
3. Almost everything on and near Walking Street is closed.
4. Some hotels are opened, but most that do are still empty.
5. Food lines are still happening daily all over the city.
6. Even TF looks thinner in Pattaya for females specs age 18-29, under 50 kg.
7. Travel agencies / Tour operators all shut down.
8. Hooters BR still closed.
9. Kiss on Second Road about 3 people dining at 6:45 pm Sunday.
10. McD's only opened at TukCom, and Avenue that I know of.
11. Treetown is restricted and 80% less busier than before the raids.
12. Sex can still be found at the massage shops around Buakhao and Soi Honey. Service and quality is a different story.
Basically, if it was a Tourist Trap, whether it was a restaurant, night market, bar, club, massage shop, or whatever type of business or scam it was and you never saw the locals spending their cash at these types of places. It still is closed. Because businesses that operate as tourist traps need tourists to trap. Am I wrong?
I agree with Mr. Paw that Bronx Pizza makes some mighty tasty pizza. The 18-inch pie is not cheap at 420-475 baht (depending on toppings). But that is one ginormous pie -- easily enough to last several days using a skillet to reheat the slices as needed. (Don't use the microwave. It makes the pizza soggy and limp.) I prefer the "chew" in Bronx Pizza's crust, which is the "New York pizza" crust that I like. But if you prefer a crispier texture, just ask them and they'll leave your pie in the oven a trifle longer. As for what Mr. Paw should try next, I recommend their Bronx Pizza, which features Italian sausage, green pepper and onion.
https://bronxpizzapattaya.com/Another member PMed a helpful list and article. At least 2 of the 6 (NY Pizza and Bronx) I mentioned where on my list (of which I tried, but not saying the are the best in Pattaya by any means). Look forward to trying Urban Pizza in the future. But is it really #1?
https://pattayaunplugged.com/who-has-pattayas-perfect-pizza/
Mr Enternational
06-29-20, 07:20
The next day she messaged and I ignored her looking for that greener grass.LOL. Damn man you are hard. I don't have a particular rule not to repeat. I just do not do it because my fuckit list is already a km long and I am trying to work other chicks in. Whatever the case, I don't ignore anyone. I am still cordial with them. Never know when you will need somebody for something.
Mr Enternational
06-29-20, 07:34
If you are on a Budget many dark skin Thais available for less than 1,000 baht. Dark skin very undesirable when your main demographic is EZ going Asians.The light ones must be very undesirable as well since the picture I posted of the 700 baht girl (that will take 500 from now on) shows that she is light, bright, and damn near white. Back to the drawing board with that theory.
Mr Enternational
06-29-20, 07:41
Will be my strategy going forward. Wonder if this works with outcall as well. I don't like going to the girls rooms.90% of chicks will insist on going to your room. I can't really think of any chicks inviting me to come to their room. It is always me inviting myself. That particular chick asked if I had a room first. I told her that I would come to hers.
90% of chicks will insist on going to your room. I can't really think of any chicks inviting me to come to their room. It is always me inviting myself. That particular chick asked if I had a room first. I told her that I would come to hers.But I prefer they come my room! Because first it's clean, and I love to hide my phone and make movie of me and the girl when we fuck!
Was she a 1000 baht quality girl? Usually, girls know their own worth and all it takes is a few more hundreds to get what you want. Maybe due to the recession in Pattaya and she wasn't able to get her ass waxed, and she didn't want you to see?Dumb then because I prefer unwaxed and unshaven. Good luck making her understand such a preference though. Thailand is the last place on Earth to get girls not to mind about things like that.
Crocodilexp
06-29-20, 15:35
I'll never pay a Thai girl less than 1000. I don't want to become bad boy and exploit the girl too much! I think 1000 is a very good price. Even 1500 is good. But what I want absolutely is BBFS CIP. I fuck only bareback!To each their own, but if you insist on being a gentleman, it's far worse to insist that a girl must risk disease (with no risk mitigation possible) and potential pregnancy / abortion (if she didn't do birth control right), than to get her for the lowest price she's willing to accept.
There's a vocal bareback contingent here, and while you have every right to talk about it, I also have the right to say how sickening, reckless and selfish it is. It's one thing to take the risk yourself, but very different to make a working girl take it, given that she needs to service 1000's of men over her career. Personally, I'd never consider BBFS with a working girl, especially not with a girl who offered or accepted it in the first session.
Perhaps I'll change my mind and insist on bareback once I get over 70 and don't care for myself since I'm about to die anyway, and don't give a shit about others because I turned into a selfish prick. Once I can no longer get it up, maybe I should learn to enjoy paying people to cross the beach road blindfolded, and see what happens (most of the time it ends up ok). For 1000 baht, I'm sure there will be sufficiently desperate takers, especially when traffic seems light.
Thumbs down!
This place is the last place before reaching Soi Bukhao.
I picked a girl and we agreed on bumbum for 1000.
When I asked for 69 she said anything apart from 69. Just my luck. I asked if menses was the problem she said no. Stubborn as a pig.
Was she a LB and that was why she didn't want any position that afforded close scrutiny? Didn't look like a LB at all though.
I gave her 200 and left to have a foot massage in Soi Bukhao.Maybe not a bad thing that she didn't agree for 69.
The place is not very clean, I'm not even sure that the girls take a shower after a session with their customer in that place.
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Mr Enternational
06-29-20, 16:10
How can one be so selfish and careless to have bare back sex! Many girls do it because they have no choice. It's exploitation.Many girls do it because it was their choice. What is that called?
Many girls do it because it WAS their choice. What is that called?If those girls had our knowledge as far as all diseases are concerned and had enough money to get by and support their families and had the choice of a suitable job in a somehow stable economic situation, they would not choose to do that with total strangers. If someone says or pretends that it was her choice or she did not object, then it's just an easy way to justify one's behaviour, as simple as that.
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06-29-20, 17:07
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To each their own, but if you insist on being a gentleman, it's far worse to insist that a girl must risk disease (with no risk mitigation possible) and potential pregnancy / abortion (if she didn't do birth control right), than to get her for the lowest price she's willing to accept.
There's a vocal bareback contingent here, and while you have every right to talk about it, I also have the right to say how sickening, reckless and selfish it is. It's one thing to take the risk yourself, but very different to make a working girl take it, given that she needs to service 1000's of men over her career. Personally, I'd never consider BBFS with a working girl, especially not with a girl who offered or accepted it in the first session.
Perhaps I'll change my mind and insist on bareback once I get over 70 and don't care for myself since I'm about to die anyway, and don't give a shit about others because I turned into a selfish prick. Once I can no longer get it up, maybe I should learn to enjoy paying people to cross the beach road blindfolded, and see what happens (most of the time it ends up ok). For 1000 baht, I'm sure there will be sufficiently desperate takers, especially when traffic seems light.That's extremely well put. I am never going to say someone going for bb is wrong or not. But for me it has always been sickening, exploiting girls especially here in SE asia. And even someone is not worried about them getting sick, but what about pregnancy especially in Thailand where abortion is consider "sin". Again, not trying to rant, but I think it's a careless thing. I know couple of Mongers here has done vasectomy, which makes BB much more responsible. I'm well aware, what I am saying is quite meaningless on a forum about prostitution, but still.
That's extremely well put. I am never going to say someone going for bb is wrong or not. But for me it has always been sickening, exploiting girls especially here in SE asia. And even someone is not worried about them getting sick, but what about pregnancy especially in Thailand where abortion is consider "sin". Again, not trying to rant, but I think it's a careless thing. I know couple of Mongers here has done vasectomy, which makes BB much more responsible. I'm well aware, what I am saying is quite meaningless on a forum about prostitution, but still.Is it fair the local lasses for free or a fraction of what they charge foreigners. Do guys who blow their life savings get compassion? Unless the monger has game or high income. I see the girl as having the advantage. Some girls earn more than military pensioners. So it's OK for a girl to get $300 each Western Union payments from a dozen men? Mongers can lose in Pattaya. Pattaya is not for everyone and Mr. E system is not for everyone. I consider him a mentor and use to love his system. But now I prefer to get out the Thai game soon. I choose not to visit Patts 3 years down the road. It is my fave destination. With Walking St and Soi 6 quality nosediving my new system would be over 3 k baht for the top 20% prettiest Thai women. Which will make the Bottom 80 disco goers irate because they can't get paid. I'm against flying 20+ hours to pay average looking women. Hey! What do I know? I'm not a senior citizen and have taken a harsh stance on P4P. Soon anything below 8/10 cannot get in my wallet. I would do a 7 for free. In closing it's best I stay away from Patts in 2023.
Member #4698
06-29-20, 18:53
Thai hookers come from a multi varied background, have wide differences in attitudes and preferences as well as personalities and sexual proclivities. As the long dead TV narrator used to say, "There are 8 million stories in the Naked City". So, there is no one generalization that can cover all individuals that you may find in the market place, but in my brief experiences in LOS, I can definitely say that NO GIRL ever BAREBACKED ME AGAINST HER WILL or did anything with me that she did not want to do. It Never Happened ! It was always voluntary sex and I have a feeling that is the way it is in a vast majority of hookups.
We are talking about Thai girls, right? Ha Ha. So many times it is the girl who insists on a condom and the choice she offers me is either condom time, forget about sex with me time, or settle for a BJ time. At other times girls just jumped on my cock giving me very little time to decide if I want to play it safe or not. I am sure there are some guys that insist on some truly gnarly things like peeing on a girl or shitting on her face or something and they get there way with weak, vulnerable girls, or with wild anything goes girls, but almost all of the Thai girls I meet are on the conservative side sexually speaking and furthermore know exactly how to stand up for their sexual preferences (their do's & don'ts) and they don't do a damn thing they don't want to do or that is not in their unwritten job description and that includes becoming a prostitute in the 1st place. The key word being "most" Thai girls. Keep in mind that millions of poor, young, Thai girls choose not to enter the profession. "Up to you" as they say.
But if you disagree with this assessment you should probably be consistent with your moral convictions and stop seeing Hookers.
Sex without a condom is not rape. Not even close. I had a girl who I had to disappoint repeatedly because I would always insist on using a condom. Many girls don't like condoms as do most guys.Each time I go Thailand, Bangkok, Pattaya or even Cambodia, I never speak about condom! 90% of time, girls even don't ask condoms!
Thai hookers come from a multi varied background, have wide differences in attitudes and preferences as well as personalities and sexual proclivities. There is no one blanket statement that can cover all individuals that you may find in the market place, but in my brief experiences in LOS, NO GIRL ever BAREBACKED AGAINST HER WILL or did anything with me that she did not want to do. Never! It was always voluntary and I have a feeling that is the way it is in a vast majority of hookups. We are talking about Thai girls, right? Ha Ha. So, many many times it was the girl who insisted on a condom and it the choice she offered me was either condom time, forget about sex with me time, or settle for a BJ time. At other times girls just jumped on my cock giving me little time to decide if I wanted to play it safe or not. I sure there are guys that insist on bareback or other truly gnarly things like peeing on a girl or eating her shit and get there way with weak, vulnerable girls, or wild anything goes girls, but almost all of the girls I meet know how to stand up for their preferences and they don't do a damn thing they don't want to do or that is not in their unwritten job description and that includes becoming a prostitute in the 1st place. The key word being "most" girls.You're totally true! Girls know exactly what they want! It's just 90% of girls don't use condoms and don't ask men to use condom. But if they insist to put condom, then I'll use condom. And sometimes they ask you to put condoms, only because they know they can get more money! Last time a famous sexy girl in famous bar in Soi 6 told me, she fucks only with condom! I just answered her that with condom I'm not horny and I don't like to use condoms. I just say please.
And then the girl in less 20 seconds answered me: "ok no condom but you give me 1000 more" ! I say YES and she was happy! And at the end of the act, I was even surprised, because I didn't ask anything and she told me directly "darling, please come in my pussy."
Thai hookers come from a multi varied background, have wide differences in attitudes and preferences as well as personalities and sexual proclivities. As the long dead TV narrator used to say, "There are 8 million stories in the Naked City". So, there is no one generalization that can cover all individuals that you may find in the market place, but in my brief experiences in LOS, I can definitely say that NO GIRL ever BAREBACKED ME AGAINST HER WILL or did anything with me that she did not want to do. It Never Happened ! It was always voluntary sex and I have a feeling that is the way it is in a vast majority of hookups.
We are talking about Thai girls, right? Ha Ha. So many times it is the girl who insists on a condom and the choice she offers me is either condom time, forget about sex with me time, or settle for a BJ time. At other times girls just jumped on my cock giving me very little time to decide if I wanted to play it safe or not. I am sure there are some guys that insist on bareback or other truly gnarly things like peeing on a girl or shitting on her and they get there way with weak, vulnerable girls, or wild anything goes girls, but almost all of the Thai girls I meet are on the conservative side sexually speaking and furthermore know exactly how to stand up for their sexual preferences (their do's & don'ts) and they don't do a damn thing they don't want to do or that is not in their unwritten job description and that includes becoming a prostitute in the 1st place. The key word being "most" Thai girls.
If you disagree with this assessment you should be consistent with your moral convictions and probably stop seeing Hookers.I think "most" is the key. I know many who after seeing me 2-3 times suggest to have BB sex, and then gets turned down. And many thai WGs love sex without condom, that's their choice.
Now their are also many who "choose" to do bareback because they know they won't get the money if they say no, because competition is cut-throat. They do it just to pay bills, medicine and parent's bills and if they're unlucky, they will have to feed a child too quite soon. Did they chooae to do bareback? Yes. Did someone forced them to do it? No. It's a very gray zone, no one is really a "culprit", but we know who will be victim in worst case. I believe most WGs are naive and stupid to get knocked up in their early 20's and even before sometimes, and live as single mom. That's why I believe it's quite irresponsible to do bareback with a hooker, especially someone who is too young to have child. And I don't buy it that someone can't come without condom.
I think "most" is the key. I know many who after seeing me 2-3 times suggest to have BB sex, and then gets turned down. And many thai WGs love sex without condom, that's their choice.
Now their are also many who "choose" to do bareback because they know they won't get the money if they say no, because competition is cut-throat. They do it just to pay bills, medicine and parent's bills and if they're unlucky, they will have to feed a child too quite soon. Did they chooae to do bareback? Yes. Did someone forced them to do it? No. It's a very gray zone, no one is really a "culprit", but we know who will be victim in worst case. I believe most WGs are naive and stupid to get knocked up in their early 20's and even before sometimes, and live as single mom. That's why I believe it's quite irresponsible to do bareback with a hooker, especially someone who is too young to have child. And I don't buy it that someone can't come without condom.OK, here is a quick one for you! If you really want to BB and you are concerned about the girls, then go to the Doctor and get the snip snip done! Then no problem ever. BB without guilt!
Danny Duck
06-29-20, 20:51
The light ones must be very undesirable as well since the picture I posted of the 700 baht girl (that will take 500 from now on) shows that she is light, bright, and damn near white. Back to the drawing board with that theory.She must be Hella ugly. MP says girls know their True value.
Right now the few very sexy gogos girls who stay in Pattaya during the confinement go very easily with expatriates for 1000ST. My friend who lives in Pattaya told me right now he fuck the most lovely sexy ladies of Pattaya for 1000ST bareback! These girls who asked before 3000 to 5000 for ST in gogos in WS or SOI LK fuck very easily for 1000. Like my friend say, there is nobody in Patt now, ot's better for these girls to get 1000 than nothing! Only few girls ask him between 200 to 500 more for bareback!
He told me now he fuck the sexy girls everyday, and love to do BRFS and CIP.I fully confirm. A friend of mines, resident in Bangkok, recently moved to Pattaya, staying at Avani (former Marriott), 5 stars hotel. He has been hosting for 3 days a 21 years old model in his luxury Terrace Suite and pays her 1000 baht / day +, obviously, breakfast, lunch, dinner, drinks in the hotel. She is very happy and he fucks her in every hole 2 - 3 times / day, without condom. And he is 65!
This ego-maniac jerk again.
He must have no life or social circle outside of this forum. Always trying to prove how "smart" he is.............+1. Whenever I see a post bearing the name I keep on scrolling.
MichaelSamuel
06-30-20, 01:31
Great run down of the current scene, thanks.
I would go for the Highlander tag instead of weekend warrior at this point.
Had a nice going away dinner and chat with XXL and another guy from PA at Jolly's on Soi Boo Cow. We were the only people there from 7 until about 8 pm. Thanks to XXL for the treat. The guy is pretty legit and quite young in spirit for some one his age. He sees a girl he likes and has no problem going up to her and trying. Not saying he succeeds all the time, but the fact that he keeps trying is something worth mentioning. Tall Russian chick with 4 muscle heads surrounding her or not, XXL doesn't give a damn. We usually meet regularly at Treetown before the raids and even dropped on 4/20 at a little get together held by guys from PA. My first time rolling with a group like that. Very spiritual 3 hours. Anyways, have a good trip back Europe XXL.
Does this just leave me as the "Last Weekend Warrior" in Pattaya in the whole wide world? Maybe I should just say "Warrior" since I do this for way much longer than a weekend. I've met a bunch of stranded tourists in the last 4 months. But when we share stories about Pattaya, they look at me in awe. My stories at the Go Go bars seem unbelievable to them. Lord, forbid we share pics of the quality of girls we've hunted, which we did. I figure it would come down to this. Just Monkeypaw, the models, the coyotes, and the GoGo bars if they dare to open on Wednesday. Saw a couple of bars at LK Metro doing some cleaning, but not sure what for. Let's see what they do or if they have the guts to try to open.
1. Beach Road girls / ladyboys Sunday to Thurs about 100 of them from Pattaya Klang to bit past Royal Garden. Friday and Saturday much less due to locals swarming the beach on the weekend. Few hookers on Buakhao now, still quite a few LBs around that area and that massage street next to Lengkee.
2. 99% Indian restaurants still closed. Chinese seafood places as well.
3. Almost everything on and near Walking Street is closed.
4. Some hotels are opened, but most that do are still empty.
5. Food lines are still happening daily all over the city.
6. Even TF looks thinner in Pattaya for females specs age 18-29, under 50 kg.
7. Travel agencies / Tour operators all shut down.
8. Hooters BR still closed.
9. Kiss on Second Road about 3 people dining at 6:45 pm Sunday.
10. McD's only opened at TukCom, and Avenue that I know of.
11. Treetown is restricted and 80% less busier than before the raids.
12. Sex can still be found at the massage shops around Buakhao and Soi Honey. Service and quality is a different story.
Basically, if it was a Tourist Trap, whether it was a restaurant, night market, bar, club, massage shop, or whatever type of business or scam it was and you never saw the locals spending their cash at these types of places. It still is closed. Because businesses that operate as tourist traps need tourists to trap. Am I wrong?
LittleBigMan
06-30-20, 02:41
I did a short around town yesterday afternoon and came to pretty much the same conclusion as M. P. , I started going down Soi 6, no sign of opening, then up Soi 8, down Soi 7, no sign of opening, down Beach road into W. S. Went through Soi 15, down Soi Diamond no sign of opening only Coco Go Go seem to be doing construction or closed wouldn't be surprised. Continued down W. S. Back around Marine Hotel into 2nd Road, lots of small businesses closed or gone especially all the Indian restaurants the 7/11 at the corner of Soi Diamond /2nd Road pretty of homeless? Sitting around and talking including a farang homeless / drunk?
Down Soi Baukhao starting Pattaya Tai end didn't see any real activity to small bars opening but did notice the area where Golden Times is located clubs like 555 had their doors open getting ready? Down into LK metro noticed Crystal Club, Queens, KinK and Scooter bar had their doors opened getting ready?
When it comes to Treetown, the owners got their hands slapped for trying to jump the gun and take advantage of their position putting locals in a bad position to be noticed? Beer Hub is closed and not due to the raid.
Danny Duck
06-30-20, 03:54
I did a short around town yesterday afternoon and came to pretty much the same conclusion as M. P. , I started going down Soi 6, no sign of opening, then up Soi 8, down Soi 7, no sign of opening, down Beach road into W. S. Went through Soi 15, down Soi Diamond no sign of opening only Coco Go Go seem to be doing construction or closed wouldn't be surprised. Continued down W. S. Back around Marine Hotel into 2nd Road, lots of small businesses closed or gone especially all the Indian restaurants the 7/11 at the corner of Soi Diamond /2nd Road pretty of homeless? Sitting around and talking including a farang homeless / drunk?
Down Soi Baukhao starting Pattaya Tai end didn't see any real activity to small bars opening but did notice the area where Golden Times is located clubs like 555 had their doors open getting ready? Down into LK metro noticed Crystal Club, Queens, KinK and Scooter bar had their doors opened getting ready?
When it comes to Treetown, the owners got their hands slapped for trying to jump the gun and take advantage of their position putting locals in a bad position to be noticed? Beer Hub is closed and not due to the raid.Without the Tourists paying the going, established rates for Girls Pattaya ain't going to make it.
In other words people living there should appreciate the one week Gazillion Aires.
I see you tubers. Pattaya is dead.
+1. Whenever I see a post bearing the name I keep on scrolling.Ignoring is one option indeed. But MrTroll has made this forum an extremely negative place. Almost his every second post is arguing with someone or shaming some poster. He must be having no life that he's desperate enough to call someone he doesn't know an "idiot", just to prove he is "right" (and from what I know, quite unsuccessfully LOL).
I agree with avoiding bareback, as delightful as it is. I'm close with a very active working girl but she keeps asking when I will book her. I told her as soon as she stops sharing clips of her getting banged bareback by one of her regular clients. Today she posted her menstrual cycle on her Line feed with the quote "I'm open for five days of anal, guys!
I know she'the be a phenomenal fuck, amd she assures me she is HIV tested regularly and remains negative, but I just don't need it quote that bad.
BTW, when I turn 70 in a few years, I have no intention of considering that age "about to die". I'll hold off on the "suicide by hookers and blow" until I'm 80, LOL.
To each their own, but if you insist on being a gentleman, it's far worse to insist that a girl must risk disease (with no risk mitigation possible) and potential pregnancy / abortion (if she didn't do birth control right), than to get her for the lowest price she's willing to accept.
There's a vocal bareback contingent here, and while you have every right to talk about it, I also have the right to say how sickening, reckless and selfish it is. It's one thing to take the risk yourself, but very different to make a working girl take it, given that she needs to service 1000's of men over her career. Personally, I'd never consider BBFS with a working girl, especially not with a girl who offered or accepted it in the first session.
Perhaps I'll change my mind and insist on bareback once I get over 70 and don't care for myself since I'm about to die anyway, and don't give a shit about others because I turned into a selfish prick. Once I can no longer get it up, maybe I should learn to enjoy paying people to cross the beach road blindfolded, and see what happens (most of the time it ends up ok). For 1000 baht, I'm sure there will be sufficiently desperate takers, especially when traffic seems light.
Mr Enternational
06-30-20, 05:46
She must be Hella ugly. MP says girls know their True value.That does not say that they base their value on looks! They could easily be based on some type of skill, or how good-hearted or fun to be around they are.
None of these chicks ever think they have it in the looks department. They are never happy with things about their looks. Had one chick hit me up the other day saying that she finally got her lips done. She thought it made her look Latina. I told her congratulations. If it was the ladyboy look that she was going after, then it worked out well. Her response was that ladyboys are beautiful, so that is a good thing.
Mr Enternational
06-30-20, 05:57
Beach Road girls / ladyboys Sunday to Thurs about 100 of them from Pattaya Klang to bit past Royal Garden. Friday and Saturday much less due to locals swarming the beach on the weekend. Few hookers on Buakhao now,All the chicks that were on Buakhao moved to Beach Road. Yesterday I saw the soapy chick down on Beach Road. She said her rent is due today. She has 4500, but is 500 short. What a coincidence since 500 is what I paid her last time.
Mr Enternational
06-30-20, 06:19
Ignoring is one option indeed. But MrTroll has made this forum an extremely negative place. Almost his every second post is arguing with someone or shaming some poster. He must be having no life that he's desperate enough to call someone he doesn't know an "idiot", just to prove he is "right" (and from what I know, quite unsuccessfully LOL).It is not MrTroll's fault that he studies and observes his surroundings in order to educate himself while calling out those that talk out of their asses. Not one person that has said no choice has documented what has happened to these people with no choice when they chose doing the opposite of whatever the no choice thing was. As another poster pointed out, there are millions of chicks in the same situation, yet they did not choose this supposedly no choice thing. And if I recall correctly, MrTroll never called anyone an idiot; he said the guy sounded like an idiot. There is a difference. Learn how to read for understanding.
All the chicks that were on Buakhao moved to Beach Road. Yesterday I saw the soapy chick down on Beach Road. She said her rent is due today. She has 4500, but is 500 short. What a coincidence since 500 is what I paid her last time.Yeah that makes sense. I figure the brown suits didn't like that the girls moved away to the Treetown area from BR. The thunder around 7:00 or so scared me off from doing my daily walk of the track on Beach Road. I don't know how you manage to bike those sidewalks with all the trees, people, and crooked bricks. It's probably like playing a video game. LOL.
Lucky Nuts
06-30-20, 06:31
It is not MrTroll's fault that he studies and observes his surroundings in order to educate himself while calling out those that talk out of their asses. Not one person that has said no choice has documented what has happened to these people with no choice when they chose doing the opposite of whatever the no choice thing was. As another poster pointed out, there are millions of young chicks in the same situation, yet they did not choose this supposedly no choice thing. And if I recall correctly, MrTroll never called anyone an idiot; he said the guy sounded like an idiot. There is a difference. Learn how to read for understanding.And some chose long hours and low pay over our game. I hate it when I see hot girls working at 7-11 LOL.
Her response was that ladyboys are beautiful, so that is a good thing.Her answer represent the mindset of most of these girls.
Each time the subject of LBs comes out, the first thing they say is LBs are beautiful.
The path between what they think is beautiful and what we think is beautiful is huge.
It's like when they go for a boob job, they'll go for the biggest boobs available regardless of every other aspects that come with it.
They think that every guy likes them huge. I don't know what most other guys think about them, but I find them horrible to watch and the feeling is a real bone killer for the ones that are not soft.
I did a short around town yesterday afternoon and came to pretty much the same conclusion as M. P. , I started going down Soi 6, no sign of opening, then up Soi 8, down Soi 7, no sign of opening, down Beach road into W. S. Went through Soi 15, down Soi Diamond no sign of opening only Coco Go Go seem to be doing construction or closed wouldn't be surprised. Continued down W. S. Back around Marine Hotel into 2nd Road, lots of small businesses closed or gone especially all the Indian restaurants the 7/11 at the corner of Soi Diamond /2nd Road pretty of homeless? Sitting around and talking including a farang homeless / drunk?
Down Soi Baukhao starting Pattaya Tai end didn't see any real activity to small bars opening but did notice the area where Golden Times is located clubs like 555 had their doors open getting ready? Down into LK metro noticed Crystal Club, Queens, KinK and Scooter bar had their doors opened getting ready?
When it comes to Treetown, the owners got their hands slapped for trying to jump the gun and take advantage of their position putting locals in a bad position to be noticed? Beer Hub is closed and not due to the raid.Did another afternoon walk on the Eve of the Resurrection of entertainment venues. Looks like a few beer bars on BR will try to make a go at it by cleaning up their places. Down Soi Made in Thailand or America (can't remember as I don't frequent there), it was dusty and empty as usual. Where it V's off towards Boo Cow, the open air beer bars seem like they also will try as well. From Boo Cow took and 10 baht bus all the way to the temple near Walking Street and Second, and then I made a quick dash into Walking Street via Soi 15 where Sapphire is. Looked dead besides Doll House where there were some people. Sensations and Bacarra had doors open, but not sure what's going on there. Moulin Rogue had activity. The rest were closed. There was a Dolls Walking Street that I did not notice before. I just remembered one on Soi 6 and LK. So my bad whoever told me there was a Dolls on WS, and I dissented. Ginza is out of business and so is Ninja on LK. Saw a club called Black Banana with Korean letters in the same spot that has changed names like a million times. Like I said, they are experts at taking investors money. Did a walk back on the beach and ran into Mr. E biking with his Russian girl. Not sure how he does it. I have a hard time not tripping on those uneven bricks on the sidewalk. Let's see what happens tomorrow night. Rain I bet and everything stays closed. LOL.
Looks like quite a few will attempt to open. Especially since overhead is not the same as the GoGo bars on WS. On the eve of the resurrection, I saw plenty of clean ups on Soi 6. Hours will be different (12-12) and of course the NightWish Group will consolidate their bars and staff (see below), just like Monkeypaw suggested. 12 pm is way too early for me to just sit and stare at the empty road and I don't drink. But I guess isipping on some OJ or Diet Coke, is something to do besides sitting in my room or napping. Maybe I'll make a guest appearance as the last Weekend Warrior in Pattaya.
Wrath bar.
Toy box bar.
Play pen.
Pussy club.
Kawaii bar.
Sexy in the city.
Blue bar.
She must be Hella ugly. MP says girls know their True value.Not just True, but True Blue. As in Blu Ray. Just like the Blu bowling center inside Avenue. Check that circle thing next to it, cool huh?
This was the last one I visited before the lock down. Had Russian girls but a bit of a rip off. I sat with a couple and got them each 1 drink plus a Coke Zero for me. Bill was like 900 baht. There was a show that I wasn't even paying attention to and was asked to tip the dancer because I was the only customer there. The heck?
LittleBigMan
07-01-20, 02:39
Did another afternoon walk on the Eve of the Resurrection of entertainment venues. Looks like a few beer bars on BR will try to make a go at it by cleaning up their places. Down Soi Made in Thailand or America (can't remember as I don't frequent there), it was dusty and empty as usual. Where it V's off towards Boo Cow, the open air beer bars seem like they also will try as well. From Boo Cow took and 10 baht bus all the way to the temple near Walking Street and Second, and then I made a quick dash into Walking Street via Soi 15 where Sapphire is. Looked dead besides Doll House where there were some people. Sensations and Bacarra had doors open, but not sure what's going on there. Moulin Rogue had activity. The rest were closed. There was a Dolls Walking Street that I did not notice before. I just remembered one on Soi 6 and LK. So my bad whoever told me there was a Dolls on WS, and I dissented. Ginza is out of business and so is Ninja on LK. Saw a club called Black Banana with Korean letters in the same spot that has changed names like a million times. Like I said, they are experts at taking investors money. Did a walk back on the beach and ran into Mr. E biking with his Russian girl. Not sure how he does it. I have a hard time not tripping on those uneven bricks on the sidewalk. Let's see what happens tomorrow night. Rain I bet and everything stays closed. LOL.Pretty much what I saw Monday didn't have time yesterday but on the Darkside I saw a few doing the same door open cleaning up. Coco and Angel right total rip off as I noted I went by Coco Monday they had a pile of construction debri outside, this place used to be called Batman open for a month closed and open back up rename. Whatever you do don't go to Black Banana unless you like guys?
If it doesn't rain tonight I going to go out just to see it for myself?
Mr Enternational
07-01-20, 04:14
Pretty much what I saw Monday didn't have time yesterday but on the Darkside I saw a few doing the same door open cleaning up.I had a chick from the darkside stay with me last night. Where that KIK place is. She just woke me up to take her back. She said she has to work in 1 hour.
SNIP...Coco and Angel right total rip off as I noted I went by Coco Monday they had a pile of construction debri outside, this place used to be called Batman open for a month closed and open back up rename. Whatever you do don't go to Black Banana unless you like guys?
If it doesn't rain tonight I going to go out just to see it for myself?Yes, new Go Go bars that pop up with a brand new sign, last a month or two, is how money often magically disappears from the wallets of foreigners who have that "dream" of being part owner in a strip club. It was not long ago, when I built up my own reputation and was tossing 15 - 30,000 baht a night, for 60 days, on every trip to Pattaya for 2 years straight, that "they" tried to recruit me to do the same. My father raised me so much smarter than whatever game they tried to throw at me. Besides, I told them that our family has no money of our own. We don't work that way. Why the heck would I want to stress myself out about a shady investment, doing illegal activities, in a corrupt ass country that I know nothing about. And why should I trust people who approach me, only after seeing me ring the bell like 10 times in a row at Sapphire? I thank them for buying my drinks and dinner, but I am here for the girls, so let me enjoy my time. I gave them a contact phone number to reach somebody associated with my father and his associates, in case they still wanted to talk more. Not sure what happened after they took it. They never spoke another word about it after that. In this world, there are some individuals that have the ability to bring a business to its knees. It's better to let those dogs lie still. I think it is worse in Angeles City and also Vietnam though. They tried it there too.
With regards to Black Banana, it would be rather odd if they put a gay bar on Walking Street and not in Boyztown nearby. The signage was in Korean, which is meant to attract Korean customers. I doubt if the Koreans come here for the gay bars, especially "if" located on the quite visible Walking Street. I have a feeling Black Banana may just be a poor choice words to naming a Go Go bar. But who knows? A Chippendale's for the women? I just know that spot is very unlucky and very shady.
P.S. Getting there. Keep chugging along.
Danny Duck
07-01-20, 06:27
And some chose long hours and low pay over our game. I hate it when I see hot girls working at 7-11 LOL.Not many 7-11 girls would qualify as a mediocre girl in a bad quality Agogo.
Most very friendly though. LOL.
LittleBigMan
07-01-20, 08:07
Yes, new Go Go bars that pop up with a brand new sign, last a month or two, is how money often magically disappears from the wallets of foreigners who have that "dream" of being part owner in a strip club. It was not long ago, when I built up my own reputation and was tossing 15 - 30,000 baht a night, for 60 days, on every trip to Pattaya for 2 years straight, that "they" tried to recruit me to do the same. My father raised me so much smarter than whatever game they tried to throw at me. Besides, I told them that our family has no money of our own. We don't work that way. Why the heck would I want to stress myself out about a shady investment, doing illegal activities, in a corrupt ass country that I know nothing about. And why should I trust people who approach me, only after seeing me ring the bell like 10 times in a row at Sapphire? I thank them for buying my drinks and dinner, but I am here for the girls, so let me enjoy my time. I gave them a contact phone number to reach somebody associated with my father and his associates, in case they still wanted to talk more. Not sure what happened after they took it. They never spoke another word about it after that. In this world, there are some individuals that have the ability to bring a business to its knees. It's better to let those dogs lie still. I think it is worse in Angeles City and also Vietnam though. They tried it there too.
With regards to Black Banana, it would be rather odd if they put a gay bar on Walking Street and not in Boyztown nearby. The signage was in Korean, which is meant to attract Korean customers. I doubt if the Koreans come here for the gay bars, especially "if" located on the quite visible Walking Street. I have a feeling Black Banana may just be a poor choice words to naming a Go Go bar. But who knows? A Chippendale's for the women? I just know that spot is very unlucky and very shady.
P.S. Getting there. Keep chugging along.When it comes to Black Banana I heard this from someone can't remember who it was now! But the location the last two years before BB (not Banana Boi's) hehe there was two other GoGos opened and then closed prior I think it was a pizza place outside? Not sure of the Korean sign maybe from leftover? Not even sure the Wood bar is still upstairs was opened to cater to the Japanese of Koreans.
When it comes to opening bars and clubs I agree with your assessment even if I was a million or billionaire why would you even consider a venture such as this there are so many uninformed wannabes running around town. Just enjoy the fruit of others and as you noted ring the bell all night at the best places and you would still be ahead. I enjoy going out after my farang dinner and end up at a place or two for the evening. Two things you see girls and a bunch of farang owners / managers running around with their heads cut off.
Tonight will be very interesting to see who makes the attempt? I just came back from a cruise what a change from Monday today Soi 6 many had their doors open already with girls or cleaning up, same as you noted the few big bars on Beach Road corner Soi 7, Silver GoGo closed but even before the Virus why and how they stay open is anyone?
W. S. I went through again but didn't see any activity only one Tantra had their door open and was checking out their sound system didn't see any activity outside Sapphire or Dollhouse. Prior I visited Dollhouse a lot Sapphire not in 3 years no skin! I went through W. S. To get to the top of the hill to see if my favorite Kinnaree GC was going to open not today but plenty of workers outside getting it ready maybe tomorrow or weekend. As for LK, the same three I mentioned but a number of bars like the Cave were getting ready.
Sure it will be interesting but remember places have to close at Midnight?
LittleBigMan
07-01-20, 08:15
I had a chick from the darkside stay with me last night. Where that KIK place is. She just woke me up to take her back. She said she has to work in 1 hour.KIK? I think the place is closed been closed for a long time but the place next door Pasca? Might be where she is going to work or maybe I got it wrong? That is the top of Soi Khao Talo / Khao Noi around from the 7/11, the heavy locations of many of the Darkside places are just passed Siamburi. I haven't been up there in a month since Siamburi stopped selling the cheap blue cheese I use for my daily salad.
I rarely venture to any of the Darkside places and I know each one since I use to make a map for a guy on another who posted it on another website. I stay away the places are too close to home I never know who might be my neighbor working at one of these places so I keep myself in town action. Girls working the Darkside don't last long they move on quickly?
And we have rain on the day of resurrection at around 7:30 pm. Only Moulin Rouge opened and of course empty, no customers, no Russian window dancer, and only 2 girls. The rest of WS looked dead besides 7-11. Soi 6 was about 30% open, Night Wish Bars were full, but the quality of girls was worse than I've ever seen it before. I think the better looking ones got hip to the TF game like I said they would. I know of about 20-25 girls that did not return to their respective bars and are still in Pattaya. Good for them as they make enough to not have to rent out those rooms above the Soi bars to have deducted from their drinks commission or salary. Kind of like being stuck as an indentured servant. If the girls don't make enough, they are basically working for a place to sleep every month.
LittleBigMan
07-01-20, 15:57
Not much to report.
As M. P. he predicted it would rain and it did just that! But during the break, since I was prepared to go out anyways and promised the family I would bring back some babyback ribs for a late night snack.
Didn't make a trip down to Soi 6, but did make the following. W. S. I didn't see any of the GoGo's open but the Russian place M. Rouge. I noticed because at 9:00 pm With police lights flashing and what seems to be about 2 plus dozen of cops and filming crew converged on the Candy Shop, it was pretty crowded seem like standing room only with a band playing. Not sure what they were looking for except the big cop of Banglamung using the 1st day to do photo op after 10 minutes or so they all came back out and went across the Soi to the open bar in front of Soi Diamond again a photo ops with a few ladies.
On to Soi Baukhao, no GoGos were opened although I thought during the day seeing Crystal, Kink, and Queens doing so cleaning. Bunch of small bars opens like Scooters, Carmel Toe, Race Car doing good business with people drinking. Area 51 on Soi Diana was opened. Freetown, not too busy food court Pattaya Soul had a few Thai customers, and Beer Hub opened again but didn't seem to have customers? Many of places that were opened were beer bars GC like 555, Naugthy, and Buka. Hang in there folks just the first day and it rained.
I fully confirm. A friend of mines, resident in Bangkok, recently moved to Pattaya, staying at Avani (former Marriott), 5 stars hotel. He has been hosting for 3 days a 21 years old model in his luxury Terrace Suite and pays her 1000 baht / day +, obviously, breakfast, lunch, dinner, drinks in the hotel. She is very happy and he fucks her in every hole 2 - 3 times / day, without condom. And he is 65!I think we all confirm girls in Pattaya and Cambodia all fuck without condom! Customers don't use condoms, and ladies don't ask we wear condoms! They just ask most of the time to not come inside pussy! And some girls don't care like many in Soi 6. I think I fucked about 20 girls bareback in Soi 6 ! My target is too succeed to fuck at least 2 girls per bar in all the bars of Soi 6.
Till now I fucked all the girls from bars "wicked" "where the angels play" & "passion".
In "Jungle bar" I fucked 2 girls!
In "Avarice" 1 girl.
In "Sex in the City" 2 girls.
In "Wrath" 3 girls.
And even now most of the time, these girls come now directly my room when I send them message.
Even 2 girls, 1 from Wrath bar and 1 other from Passion told me now they don't fuck in bar, only drink because they have boyfriend who is manager of the bar or owner, I don't know exactly. And they told me to not come their bar but to send them message and when they're free ther come my room. It's very funny!
Crocodilexp
07-01-20, 23:48
The path between what they (Thai girls) think is beautiful and what we think is beautiful is huge.Sadly, that's so true. For the life of me, I can't understand what's beautiful about drawn-on monster eyebrows that virtually all working girls wear these days. Don't even get me started on the crappy tattoos.
One of the strengths of Thai woman is that sweet girl-next-door look. Try turning that into a trashy sex bomb, and you get something unnatural and unconvincing.
Danny Duck
07-02-20, 00:36
Sadly, that's so true. For the life of me, I can't understand what's beautiful about drawn-on monster eyebrows that virtually all working girls wear these days. Don't even get me started on the crappy tattoos.
One of the strengths of Thai woman is that sweet girl-next-door look. Try turning that into a trashy sex bomb, and you get something unnatural and unconvincing.I think it's Carfi b and Beyonce influence.
Or Diana Ross back in the day. LOL.
Danny Duck
07-02-20, 00:38
Sadly, that's so true. For the life of me, I can't understand what's beautiful about drawn-on monster eyebrows that virtually all working girls wear these days. Don't even get me started on the crappy tattoos.
One of the strengths of Thai woman is that sweet girl-next-door look. Try turning that into a trashy sex bomb, and you get something unnatural and unconvincing.The sweetest Rainbow 4 girl who ever lived looked like she got the Operation. LOL. Big boob job.
Doesn't blook sweet anymore.
What I don't get is she got her one customer a day. ,so why the need. Greedy girl?
The sweetest Rainbow 4 girl who ever lived looked like she got the Operation. LOL. Big boob job.
Doesn't blook sweet anymore.
What I don't get is she got her one customer a day. ,so why the need. Greedy girl?Speaking of Rainbow, ever notice how in Pattaya, so many girls are nicknamed the color "Blue" as in Fa or Fha? Which is Monkeypaw's favorite color. I think I've said this over and over again. But it's just a reminder to who or what I am.
Some venues very Busy, some very quiet.
https://thepattayanews.com/2020/07/02/entertainment-venues-open-in-pattaya-after-three-and-a-half-months-on-a-rainy-first-night-list-of-rules/
Member #4698
07-02-20, 13:51
Sadly, that's so true. For the life of me, I can't understand what's beautiful about drawn-on monster eyebrows that virtually all working girls wear these days. Don't even get me started on the crappy tattoos.
One of the strengths of Thai woman is that sweet girl-next-door look. Try turning that into a trashy sex bomb, and you get something unnatural and unconvincing.Totally agree with you on that "sweet girl next door look". But once a girl has decided she needs a boob job or a nose job she can't be talked out of it. Believe me, I have tried to gently reason with more than a few and as a failed result of my efforts, have had to drop some really nice, originally cuter than peach ice cream, girls thanks to modern cosmetic surgery. What those surgeons do is an abomination. And don't get me started on tattoos. 555. Although I have come around on tats in the last 10 years and have come to accept them, or a better word, overlook them. I can't overlook silicones however. They spoil everything for me. So unnatural.
Some venues very Busy, some very quiet.
https://thepattayanews.com/2020/07/02/entertainment-venues-open-in-pattaya-after-three-and-a-half-months-on-a-rainy-first-night-list-of-rules/.Bars on Soi 6 operate a bit different than before. No more uniforms or sexy outfits or themes. The girls are more like Thermae freelancers working independently from the bar. They however get a 50 baht commission per drink. Salary is out of the question at this point. A few bars increased their drink prices. Many of the girls are either fresh or it seems as if they were pulled out of the street to work. Kind of like, "hey if you don't have anything to do, come hang out at the bar and make 50 per drink, and invite your friends. " Of course, there is still a room fee and the boom boom is up to the girl, whether they do or do not, and their own pricing. I'm thinking, less liability for the bars in case some bullshit happens. The best or better looking girls are not there. Sad to see some managers working for drinks as well and not salary.
Maybe July 7, until a few Go Go bars will try to open. But the top end girls are not dancing for 50 baht a drink because hitting 55 per 10 days and 10-15,000 baht is out of reach, especially during these times. Every dancer I talked to said they will come when tourists come. That doesn't mean there are lower end girls ready to take their spots or new girls desperate for work who don't mind dancing for taxi money. Let's wait and see what happens. This is not Bangkok which are pretty much brothels. Pattaya has always been different with all the coyotes. This girl works model at Palace and is not even top 20 in there. And she refuses to bang for 1500. She says chicks who do are "worthless. " Oh well, not the end of the world. Or is it?
Danny Duck
07-02-20, 19:47
Bars on Soi 6 operate a bit different than before. No more uniforms or sexy outfits or themes. The girls are more like Thermae freelancers working independently from the bar. They however get a 50 baht commission per drink. Salary is out of the question at this point. A few bars increased their drink prices. Many of the girls are either fresh or it seems as if they were pulled out of the street to work. Kind of like, "hey if you don't have anything to do, come hang out at the bar and make 50 per drink, and invite your friends. " Of course, there is still a room fee and the boom boom is up to the girl, whether they do or do not, and their own pricing. I'm thinking, less liability for the bars in case some bullshit happens. The best or better looking girls are not there. Sad to see some managers working for drinks as well and not salary.
Maybe July 7, until a few Go Go bars will try to open. But the top end girls are not dancing for 50 baht a drink because hitting 55 per 10 days and 10-15,000 baht is out of reach, especially during these times. Every dancer I talked to said they will come when tourists come. That doesn't mean there are lower end girls ready to take their spots or new girls desperate for work who don't mind dancing for taxi money. Let's wait and see what happens. This is not Bangkok which are pretty much brothels. Pattaya has always been different with all the coyotes. This girl works model at Palace and is not even top 20 in there. And she refuses to bang for 1500. She says chicks who do are "worthless. " Oh well, not the end of the world. Or is it?This actually makes sense. I don't see why better girls would work for a hot shower and a bed. They just as well wait it out. I'm surely they have family and friends to help with the Struggle.
I don't buy that current guys in Pattaya are in Heaven. Ugly 500 baht heaven.
This actually makes sense. I don't see why better girls would work for a hot shower and a bed. They just as well wait it out. I'm surely they have family and friends to help with the Struggle..Don't forget that the lookers would also be the most likely to have local or foreign benefactors sending them cash on a semi regular basis. I'm sure that the virus would provide ample opportunity to send out sob stories and requests for cash to their sugardaddies.
Cheers. G.
This actually makes sense. I don't see why better girls would work for a hot shower and a bed. They just as well wait it out. I'm surely they have family and friends to help with the Struggle.
I don't buy that current guys in Pattaya are in Heaven. Ugly 500 baht heaven.The best girls averaged 220-250,000 baht a month. The better girls made around 200,000 a month. And that's not including sponsors. They are the last to have to worry for years to come. Many are in places like Japan or other SE Asian countries on a stay-cation or working in karaokes. I even posted pics of Thai dancers from Rainbow 2 working in a karaoke in Japan right now. People don't know by now why those girls do their make up to please a specific type of clientele? It's for this particular reason? The rest of them have enough saved until all this is over with. I've always said, to some girls, a customer's 5000 baht does not always equal 5000 baht. Everybody's money doesn't count the same. Some of the higher end girls want "connections" and "hook ups" outside of a Go Go bar and lady drinks. That's why they shut down some people advances and accept others. They need a rescue and a Knight. Just make sure it's not that other type of "knight" that's forbidden.
GettingFedUp
07-03-20, 10:09
Sunday and Monday are no alcohol sales days in Thailand (it was previously thought to be Saturday and Sunday).
https://thepattayanews.com/2020/07/03/two-day-alcohol-sales-ban-for-religious-holidays-starts-sunday/
Danny Duck
07-03-20, 17:31
The best girls averaged 220-250,000 baht a month. The better girls made around 200,000 a month. And that's not including sponsors. They are the last to have to worry for years to come. Many are in places like Japan or other SE Asian countries on a stay-cation or working in karaokes. I even posted pics of Thai dancers from Rainbow 2 working in a karaoke in Japan right now. People don't know by now why those girls do their make up to please a specific type of clientele? It's for this particular reason? The rest of them have enough saved until all this is over with. I've always said, to some girls, a customer's 5000 baht does not always equal 5000 baht. Everybody's money doesn't count the same. Some of the higher end girls want "connections" and "hook ups" outside of a Go Go bar and lady drinks. That's why they shut down some people advances and accept others. They need a rescue and a Knight. Just make sure it's not that other type of "knight" that's forbidden.Can you post the photos Rainbow 2 Japan karaoke girls again.
It's now or never since it's Friday night. Hooters is still closed. I always said if Hooters on BR stays closed, then then tourist traps should stay closed. They are the masters of scamming. Walking Street, only XO Club (Russian), Tantra, and Moulin Rouge (Russian) were open as far as Go Go bars go (haha). And they were empty. I saw a few girls on stage, but it looked as if they grabbed any chick off the street who wanted a job. I don't see how any girl can meet their 45-50 drinks quota or if they even get a salary at all. 808 and Candy Shop had some people, but looked very weak. Overall, for a Friday night, I think I saw a total of 200 people all on Walking Street including vendors, motorbike taxis, staff, and girls.
Soi Made in Thailand completely shutdown and dark. The hype and opening of rest of the bars in Pattaya also killed Buakhao businesses as well. Beer Hub empty. Soul City at 10 pm had 2 tables. Soi 6 only 30% of bars open and not very busy with customers. It's all the same girls I saw at Treetown or Beach Road or at the massage shops, when Soi 6 was closed. Basically it's the same little group of girls that just moves around all over Pattaya. Monkeypaw has plenty of money to spend, but the fun and experience just ain't there anymore. Pattaya is not BKK (which I consider operates more like brothels) just sectioned off to Sukhumvit, Nana, Soi Cowboy or Patpong.
Walking Street is definitely the tourist trap out of the two. And a good trap needs mice. Only Mickey is left, and he's all grown up. These folks are trying hard to take whatever last tourist dollars are left and not give that same "Good Guys Go to Heaven, Bad Guys Go to Pattaya" experience. By the way, I think at King Cafe, the short fat manager is now also the waiter and the cook and the person holding the sign all in one because I don't see any other staff. Pattaya is definitely broken. But I wouldn't rather be any place in else in the world. Home Sweet Home!
Hops Brewhouse on Beach road re-opened yesterday. I went with several friends at 6 p. It was crowded, with lots of Thais. They were overwhelmed, as service was slow. The pizza is good here. I'll be returning. As we left, there was a waiting line to get in. We hit a couple GC's afterwards,(HL and Excite,) which were busy. After 10 p, we visited Black Snake club on Buahkao, near Action St beer bar complex. We were impressed at the line up, some WS gogo quality, IMHO. Last stop was a GC, which will remain nameless, as it stayed open after hours, (people kept arriving,) and I left at 2 a. Some places are doing well, but a lot of places remain closed. As to MIT, one bar owner there stated it will open Aug 1.
LittleBigMan
07-04-20, 12:35
Hops Brewhouse on Beach road re-opened yesterday. I went with several friends at 6 p. It was crowded, with lots of Thais. They were overwhelmed, as service was slow. The pizza is good here. I'll be returning. As we left, there was a waiting line to get in. We hit a couple GC's afterwards,(HL and Excite,) which were busy. After 10 p, we visited Black Snake club on Buahkao, near Action St beer bar complex. We were impressed at the line up, some WS gogo quality, IMHO. Last stop was a GC, which will remain nameless, as it stayed open after hours, (people kept arriving,) and I left at 2 a. Some places are doing well, but a lot of places remain closed. As to MIT, one bar owner there stated it will open Aug 1.Just curious about Black Snake Club, I remember when it first opened it was basically a boy or men strip club for the Thai ladies or something in that effect. When I was cruising about this week I saw some activity outside cleaning? Nice to know and a place to add to visiting. I also noticed at 5 pm off Soi 15, the courtyard that.
G. see. Naughty, 555, and particularly Buka Lounge had 6-8 girls outside sitting on barstools. The bar area across from Soi 8, 2nd road a number of bars have already opened.
Mr Enternational
07-04-20, 13:01
Hops Brewhouse on Beach road re-opened yesterday. I went with several friends at 6 p. It was crowded, with lots of Thais.I saw that. Seems there was a wait as well, unless people were just hanging outside in front of it. We are still getting the weekend surges of Bangkok people, then during the week things quiet back down.
I was told before that the disco was supposed to close at midnight but they would ease the time later and later as the days went by. They closed at 1:30 last night. Of course with the holiday, alcohol sales are supposed to stop at midnight tonight.
Can you post the photos Rainbow 2 Japan karaoke girls again.No, but you can back track and follow me more carefully on my posts. Ever watch the Korean Series, "Slave Hunters?" There is an actress named Kim Ha-eun who plays Seol-hwa. I think I fucked her off ThaiFriendly. Times must be tough for her. But, which witch is which? It's like a movie and actually I'm the star.
LittleBigMan
07-04-20, 14:36
I saw that. Seems there was a wait as well, unless people were just hanging outside in front of it. We are still getting the weekend surges of Bangkok people, then during the week things quiet back down.
I was told before that the disco was supposed to close at midnight but they would ease the time later and later as the days went by. They closed at 1:30 last night. Of course with the holiday, alcohol sales are supposed to stop at midnight tonight.Your observation might indicate why people like myself have such a negative review on the BIB and their leaders it is all Smoke and Mirrors. Like I wrote on the evening of July 1st, down at 808 and Candy shop on W. S. they make a big show pulling up in a number of flashing red pick up trucks 25 officers with camera people there were clearly violation everywhere based on their own mandates but the only thing that was done was the camera kept rolling taking shots of the chief. No different every Christmas head man comes to Pattaya makes his journey through W.S to get his read envelope no different a year ago making a large photo op in front of W.S. declaring this was no prostitution. This is so standard and regular the reason why many owners with any brains didn't open on the first night and plan to wait after the up and coming holidays are over.
You look at the traffic yesterday from Bangkok, Hwy 7, not far from my house it was back up for miles as time goes by more and more relax they don't have the manpower to control the crowd this country relies on the honor system for everything being no honor and only for Thai self you give an inch they will take a mile as they say?
It will be very interesting if we get a surge since those coming out partying been here for some time and in theory should be Virus free? But after this holiday period if they get a number of cases are they going to shut it down (Entainment) before it even gets started?
The reports posted are quite good. But how is a report friendly if pointers like tf profile link not added to the FR. Its like writing a book with many pages. Links are allowed in ISG.
FR as the name goes Friendly report.
Saturday night Walking Street more lively but only from King Cafe to Tantra. Lots of locals from Bangkok walking around due to the 4 day holiday. Busy at Candy Shop, 808, and Lucifer. Tantra was open but no dancers. Just few (6 maybe) girls sitting on chairs on the stages, dressed in a formal gowns, with plastic wrap to separate them. Like a cheap ass version of red light windows in De Wallen. No dancing or standing allowed. Just one big scam. You just sit, order a drink, and stare at the girls sitting behind the walls of plastic wrap. Not sure how Bangkok is allowed to operate their Go Go bars. Me and my buddies walked in, did a a lap, walked out of Tantra. Headed to Lucifer and stayed until closing. Bunch of girls I already banged before stopped by and said Hi at our table, even with their guys. One was drunk and wanted to come back to my place for "free. " Monkeypaw said "no thanks Peemai, no drama needed. " On way back, saw some nice tits on 3 bald headed chicks.
P.S. : Almost there!
Saturday night Walking Street more lively but only from King Cafe to Tantra. Lots of locals from Bangkok walking around due to the 4 day holiday. Busy at Candy Shop, 808, and Lucifer. Tantra was open but no dancers. Just few (6 maybe) girls sitting on chairs on the stages, dressed in a formal gowns, with plastic wrap to separate them. Like a cheap ass version of red light windows in De Wallen. No dancing or standing allowed. Just one big scam. You just sit, order a drink, and stare at the girls sitting behind the walls of plastic wrap. Not sure how Bangkok is allowed to operate their Go Go bars. Me and my buddies walked in, did a a lap, walked out of Tantra. Headed to Lucifer and stayed until closing. Bunch of girls I already banged before stopped by and said Hi at our table, even with their guys. One was drunk and wanted to come back to my place for "free. " Monkeypaw said "no thanks Peemai, no drama needed. " On way back, saw some nice tits on 3 bald headed chicks.
P.S. : Almost there!We walked in. Managers friend came over and snatched one of our groups phones. Told him to stop recording. Why would he be recording stupid ugly girls behind a plastic sheet. Phone checked, no recording, no apology.
Awful place. Avoid at all costs.
It's now or never since it's Friday night. Hooters is still closed. I always said if Hooters on BR stays closed, then then tourist traps should stay closed. They are the masters of scamming. Walking Street, only XO Club (Russian), Tantra, and Moulin Rouge (Russian) were open as far as Go Go bars go (haha). And they were empty. I saw a few girls on stage, but it looked as if they grabbed any chick off the street who wanted a job. I don't see how any girl can meet their 45-50 drinks quota or if they even get a salary at all. 808 and Candy Shop had some people, but looked very weak. Overall, for a Friday night, I think I saw a total of 200 people all on Walking Street including vendors, motorbike taxis, staff, and girls.
Soi Made in Thailand completely shutdown and dark. The hype and opening of rest of the bars in Pattaya also killed Buakhao businesses as well. Beer Hub empty. Soul City at 10 pm had 2 tables. Soi 6 only 30% of bars open and not very busy with customers. It's all the same girls I saw at Treetown or Beach Road or at the massage shops, when Soi 6 was closed. Basically it's the same little group of girls that just moves around all over Pattaya. Monkeypaw has plenty of money to spend, but the fun and experience just ain't there anymore. Pattaya is not BKK (which I consider operates more like brothels) just sectioned off to Sukhumvit, Nana, Soi Cowboy or Patpong.
Walking Street is definitely the tourist trap out of the two. And a good trap needs mice. Only Mickey is left, and he's all grown up. These folks are trying hard to take whatever last tourist dollars are left and not give that same "Good Guys Go to Heaven, Bad Guys Go to Pattaya" experience. By the way, I think at King Cafe, the short fat manager is now also the waiter and the cook and the person holding the sign all in one because I don't see any other staff. Pattaya is definitely broken. But I wouldn't rather be any place in else in the world. Home Sweet Home!Rumour is that Hooters Asia has gone bust. All the nice Thai places are currently busier than I've seen them. Glasshouse / Bacco beach during the day / early evening. Wizard Brewery now with some good bands.
Area 51 been revamped with some cracking women on Saturday. Few of the bars on LK Metro very busy also. Heard it's been quiet in the week.
Danny Duck
07-06-20, 05:14
Please stop calling places Tourists like tourists traps.
If it weren't for tourists traps hot girls wouldn't go for 500 baht at the grocery store. LOL.
Walking Street is definitely the tourist trap out of the two. And a good trap needs mice. Only Mickey is left, and he's all grown up. These folks are trying hard to take whatever last tourist dollars are left and not give that same "Good Guys Go to Heaven, Bad Guys Go to Pattaya" experience. By the way, I think at King Cafe, the short fat manager is now also the waiter and the cook and the person holding the sign all in one because I don't see any other staff. Pattaya is definitely broken. But I wouldn't rather be any place in else in the world. Home Sweet Home!LOL looks like a mouse got caught by the shirt and is about to get slapped by a. What's the story behind that pic, did he knock over her bike or something.
SNIP...My advice. As for the tourists traps like the GoGo bars, meet the contraction with contraction and consolidate into a few clubs with your best girls. Are you listening Pin Up? Night wish group the same. Biggest club, biggest stage and pack them in plus pay "them" off... SNIPOn June 24th Monkeypaw wrote that and July 7th, Pin Up opened last night with about 120-150 Of the best girls rounded up, and a full house. Either great minds think alike with Nightwish only opening a few of its bars and packing in the girls, also with Pin Up as well or advice was taken. Next on the list is Palace, this July 10th. One at a time, in phases to funnel the money and control the crowd, just like the Thai government (wink wink). The rest of Walking Street Go Go bars were closed besides Russian scams, Coco, and Tantra (same boss Pin Up).
How was the action and the girls at Pin Up? Monkeypaw gives it a well deserved 2 paws up for the set up. What was the scene like? It's our secret, but there is light at the end of this tunnel.
The situation Buakhao / Lengkee is awkward the least!
Most bars open, but as mentioned by others, no or very few customers, mainly expats living here.
The government doesn't seem to care much, I. E. After months of closure finally open, just for a couple of days, Then 2 days closed again bc of Buddha celebrations, then open 1 day again only to be closed again (Soi Lengkee extensive electrical repairs, no electricity). And with another holiday coming up this month. Never ending!
I feel really sorry for the bar / restaurant owners!
Now with the decision to postpone international travel indefinitely, not much hope for these guys to make a descent living in the near future.
Anyway, it is how it is and nevertheless I am enjoying the peaceful life.
As for hotels, Opey De place is a good recommendation, with a present price tag of 450-850 Baht, Swimming pool and a descent restaurant.
Thaisabai.
Pimpampoumpipo
07-09-20, 15:45
What was the scene like? It's our secret, but there is light at the end of this tunnel.Thank you for giving us a little hope in all these gloomy perspectives. We really need it.
But may I ask you a question? Who is this mysterious MonkeyPaw you talk about all the time?
Mr Enternational
07-09-20, 17:06
As for hotels, Opey De place is a good recommendation, with a present price tag of 450-850 Baht, Swimming pool and a descent restaurant.My buddy booked that place once and when he got here he stayed 1 day and got the hell out. It was horrible. That was about 2 years ago. Maybe they have updated some things by now.
Danny Duck
07-09-20, 17:52
Thank you for giving us a little hope in all these gloomy perspectives. We really need it.
But may I ask you a question? Who is this mysterious MonkeyPaw you talk about all the time?Pattaya is Doomed. Enviro freaks will turn it into a huge Green Park. LOL.
Mongers go to Laos. Remember no prostitoots were found in a recent Sweep by the Generals.
Only Transgendered entertaining. From the door looks like a good production.
BKK BiB showed up tonight, (Friday Night,) and made surprise inspections. Also made sure venues were closing at 12 a. WS, Soi 6, and Pothole were visited. LK Metro got the word and closed prior to their arrival. They're rumored to be here the weekend. On the Plus side, a few more GC's opened, Also Windmill. And Atlantis owner stated he would reopen Monday.
The birth rate is falling but there is more baby damage. OK.Try to follow:
1. The overall birth rate in country is down, so there are less people.
2. A higher percentage of the women who are pregnant are teens.
So there are simultaneously less people being born and more baby damaged young women in the bars.
We walked in. Managers friend came over and snatched one of our groups phones. Told him to stop recording. Why would he be recording stupid ugly girls behind a plastic sheet. Phone checked, no recording, no apology.
Awful place. Avoid at all costs.Why would you let someone physically grab something from your friend? Is your friend a man?
Hi guys,
With 2 friends we are going to Pattaya in 1 week for just 2 nights. We have rented a villa and we will try to find a group of hotties to come with us for an orgy at night time. I wanted to ask if you guys have some girls to recommend or place. We plan to hit the club 808 as we know the manager there and it seems to have some hot girls, plus certainly some beer bar before that, but not sure to go in Agogo. Also during day time we will certainly go to Soi 6 as I heard a lot about the famous Tuktik, but was wondering if she is still working at Route 69 or if she can be find in another bar, she seems to be hot as hell, and we are not going to look for some GFE but PSE. Plan also to visit this girl name Jib at Wrath bar Soi 6 that looks very hot too (saw her on IG) if you like them not slim but with good round brown bubble butt. Thanks in advance, will give you some details after our trip.
Danny Duck
07-11-20, 21:35
Why would you let someone physically grab something from your friend? Is your friend a man?The girls are sensitive. They have a right to be. I've seen familiar faces on you tube videos. In bikini no less on stage.
Why would any man anywhere let a stranger walk up and physically seize something from their person? Holy fuck, no wonder some tourists get pushed around and cheated so much. If you're willing to let someone take something out of your hand I guess you'll accept pretty much anything.
Crocodilexp
07-12-20, 12:35
The girls are sensitive. They have a right to be. I've seen familiar faces on you tube videos. In bikini no less on stage.They have the right to be sensitive, to ask you not to film or tell you to get out of the bar. However, grabbing your personal (and phones are VERY personal) items like that is a red line for most people I know, and a huge breach of social norms, at least in the west.
They have the right to be sensitive, to ask you not to film or tell you to get out of the bar. However, grabbing your personal (and phones are VERY personal) items like that is a red line for most people I know, and a huge breach of social norms, at least in the west.West or East, no one is grabbing anything out of my hands unless they have the ability to physically incapacitate me.
Member #4698
07-12-20, 13:41
West or East, no one is grabbing anything out of my hands unless they have the ability to physically incapacitate me.No one has ever grabbed a phone out of my hands, but I have been asked to put my phone away when I was innocently texting a girl in certain Go Go's (CH in BKK in particular). Management was very concerned about photos leaking onto the internet.
In years gone by certain clubs, sauanas & bordellos in MNL, Macau & CGK would have security ask if you had a camera and they would even pad down customers to make sure they were not carrying one into the venue. This practice has died down since cell phones have become ubiquitous, but they still don't want pics taken inside their establishments. Taking photos is a good way to get kicked out of a place.
No one has ever grabbed a phone out of my hands, but I have been asked to put my phone away when I was innocently texting a girl in certain Go Go's (CH in BKK in particular). Management was very concerned about photos leaking onto the internet.
In years gone by certain clubs, sauanas & bordellos in MNL, Macau & CGK would have security ask if you had a camera and they would even pad down customers to make sure they were not carrying one into the venue. This practice has died down since cell phones have become ubiquitous, but they still don't want pics taken inside their establishments. Taking photos is a good way to get kicked out of a place.Okay. But what does that have to do with what I said or what I was responding to?
Member #4698
07-12-20, 14:31
Okay. But what does that have to do with what I said or what I was responding to?Perhaps my post was a tad too tangential for you, but taking possession of someone's personal property is the connection. As I noted, in some bordellos in CGK and clubs in MNL customers are actually frisked by security before entry. If a camera or phone is found the customer is required to leave said item with security before entering the club. I consider that policy fairly outrageous and never submit to it.
Hi guys,
With 2 friends we are going to Pattaya in 1 week for just 2 nights. We have rented a villa and we will try to find a group of hotties to come with us for an orgy at night time. I wanted to ask if you guys have some girls to recommend or place. We plan to hit the club 808 as we know the manager there and it seems to have some hot girls, plus certainly some beer bar before that, but not sure to go in Agogo. Also during day time we will certainly go to Soi 6 as I heard a lot about the famous Tuktik, but was wondering if she is still working at Route 69 or if she can be find in another bar, she seems to be hot as hell, and we are not going to look for some GFE but PSE. Plan also to visit this girl name Jib at Wrath bar Soi 6 that looks very hot too (saw her on IG) if you like them not slim but with good round brown bubble butt. Thanks in advance, will give you some details after our trip.You're lucky to go Patt next week. I know very well all the places you mentioned. In fact most of the girls from Soi 6 go clubs on WS like 808 or Ibar when they finish work in Soi 6. Yes you can find very sexy girls in 808 or Ibar, most of the gogos girls go there when they finish work. But you'll have to spend lot of money in drinks plus the rate of the girl.
If you want just fuck sexy girls, better you fuck them directly in Soi 6 like I do each time when it's first time I meet a girl. After if I like the girl, usually I've her Line or Whasapp or Facebook and she go directly my room after the first time. I love to fuck regularly girls I fucked before in bar in Soi 6.
I know very well JIB from Wrath Bar in Soi 6. I already fucked her few times, but now she's more fat! She was very sexy 1 year ago but she loves to eat and I think the pictures are photoshoped on the facebook of the bar.
But the most sexy girl I fuck very often from Wrath Bar is Ae, she's the best! So sexy! She became my regular working girl! I fuck her bareback all the time! She let me come inside her pussy all the time. But I know her for almost 2 years. Now she s with the manager or owner of the bar and I heard she doesn't go with customers anymore and just drink with customers. For me it's different, she still fuck with me but she comes each time my room for ST and she doesn't want I come her bar, she's scared I say her boyfriend manager of the bar I fuck her! LOL.
Let me know whose girls you fuck bareback in SOI 6 please.
My target is to succeed to fuck at least 2 girls of each bar in Soi 6 and only the most beautiful working girls.
Each time I go Soi 6, I fuck about 2/3 girls per evening, I love going to bars Pasion, Where the angels play, Wicked, Avarice, Jungle Bar, Sexy in the city.
Thanks for your message. How was Jib in bed? I see her IG and yes you can see she has some few extra pound, but so far it looks still ok to me, but I just hope she is not playing the star fish in bed.
Do you know if Tuktik is still working at Route 69? I really want to fuck her, what I read about her is the real PSE I am looking for.
I rarely fuck bareback or only if I know well the girl, I don't want to get any issue either health or a girl telling me you make me pregnant which happen to some friends.
Will let you know which bar visited and girl met.
You're lucky to go Patt next week. I know very well all the places you mentioned. In fact most of the girls from Soi 6 go clubs on WS like 808 or Ibar when they finish work in Soi 6. Yes you can find very sexy girls in 808 or Ibar, most of the gogos girls go there when they finish work. But you'll have to spend lot of money in drinks plus the rate of the girl.
If you want just fuck sexy girls, better you fuck them directly in Soi 6 like I do each time when it's first time I meet a girl. After if I like the girl, usually I've her Line or Whasapp or Facebook and she go directly my room after the first time. I love to fuck regularly girls I fucked before in bar in Soi 6.
I know very well JIB from Wrath Bar in Soi 6. I already fucked her few times, but now she's more fat! She was very sexy 1 year ago but she loves to eat and I think the pictures are photoshoped on the facebook of the bar..
Perhaps my post was a tad too tangential for you, but taking possession of someone's personal property is the connection. As I noted, in some bordellos in CGK and clubs in MNL customers are actually frisked by security before entry. If a camera or phone is found the customer is required to leave said item with security before entering the club. I consider that policy fairly outrageous and never submit to it.I still don't know what this has to do with a man allowing someone to snatch something out of their hand. You must be too smart for me.
I still don't know what this has to do with a man allowing someone to snatch something out of their hand. You must be too smart for me.I doubt it was actually seized directly from his hand, They likely asked him to hand over phone and flicked through his pics. This has happened to me a couple of times when I held my phone up too high and one of the girls on stage thought I was taking pics. No biggie, would rather let them see than getting kicked out, especially if I was having a good time.
BTW, Crazy House in BKK is even stricter with phones as in they don't allow them to be used at all. I was there the night they started that rule, dude next to me sitting at stage put his phone on table and was recording the stage from an up skirt position. Girl on stage noticed it, turned his phone over and shouted to bouncers. Had the shit kicked out of him outside. Next day I came in, it was no phones allowed inside to be used and that rule has stuck ever since.
GettingFedUp
07-13-20, 16:34
I still don't know what this has to do with a man allowing someone to snatch something out of their hand. You must be too smart for me.There's places where filming on one's phone (or GoPro) isn't welcome or acceptable, be it unwelcome from the staff or other customers. So using it in a manner that might make management think you might be taking photos isn't bright.
If you really have to check your email, read an SMS or whatever you do it in a way to make it obvious that you aren't taking photos. I suspect that the original post was about someone who walked in, phone to their nose making it look like he was recording.
He wasn't it seems but I would far prefer a few people having their phones checked because they didn't think over the YouTube generation looking to make a cent every time someone clicks on view.
Thanks for your message. How was Jib in bed? I see her IG and yes you can see she has some few extra pound, but so far it looks still ok to me, but I just hope she is not playing the star fish in bed.
Do you know if Tuktik is still working at Route 69? I really want to fuck her, what I read about her is the real PSE I am looking for.
I rarely fuck bareback or only if I know well the girl, I don't want to get any issue either health or a girl telling me you make me pregnant which happen to some friends.
Will let you know which bar visited and girl met.Jib was OK but I really prefer Ae in this bar! Be nice with her, just pay her a lady drink before to go room, be polite and she'll be nice with you. But now she's really much more fat that the pictures you can see. She doesn't like kiss too much, but you can do if you want! I love kiss. But she loves when we kick her pussy. After you can fuck her in many positions like you want but just be polite with her and nice, and she'll be nice with you. For condom, she didn't ask me to put a condom so I fuck her bareback. In fact I hate condoms and I always fuck bareback all the girls in Thailand. 99% accept without any hesitation. And I'm a creampie addict! You can't imagine all the sexy working girls I fucked in Soi 6. I think about 40 working girls just in soi 6.
There's places where filming on one's phone (or GoPro) isn't welcome or acceptable, be it unwelcome from the staff or other customers. So using it in a manner that might make management think you might be taking photos isn't bright.
If you really have to check your email, read an SMS or whatever you do it in a way to make it obvious that you aren't taking photos. I suspect that the original post was about someone who walked in, phone to their nose making it look like he was recording.
He wasn't it seems but I would far prefer a few people having their phones checked because they didn't think over the YouTube generation looking to make a cent every time someone clicks on view.Still don't know what any of this has to do with a man allowing another man to take something out of his hand. You could write a book about videos, youtube, shy prostitutes, bouncers, or whatever else. It doesn't change the fact that no man, anywhere, for any reason, is taking anything from my person unless they have the ability to physically incapacitate me. Full stop.
Danny Duck
07-14-20, 18:31
Still don't know what any of this has to do with a man allowing another man to take something out of his hand. You could write a book about videos, youtube, shy prostitutes, bouncers, or whatever else. It doesn't change the fact that no man, anywhere, for any reason, is taking anything from my person unless they have the ability to physically incapacitate me. Full stop.Please Demount from your high horse. AgoGo are filled with lower level minded thinkers. They not worried about your Civil Rights.
Gin And Tonic
07-14-20, 21:57
Still don't know what any of this has to do with a man allowing another man to take something out of his hand. You could write a book about videos, youtube, shy prostitutes, bouncers, or whatever else. It doesn't change the fact that no man, anywhere, for any reason, is taking anything from my person unless they have the ability to physically incapacitate me. Full stop.If we are talking A-Go-Go security it won't be a man but men. Many, many men. Most are military trained and they will mess you up cowboy.
LittleBigMan
07-15-20, 01:57
If we are talking A-Go-Go security it won't be a man but men. Many, many men. Most are military trained and they will mess you up cowboy.He's no Cowboy? This guy is the Rock! I thought there was only one the. Johnson A. K. A. Rock? Is this his brother Ricky?
Jib was OK but I really prefer Ae in this bar! Be nice with her, just pay her a lady drink before to go room, be polite and she'll be nice with you. But now she's really much more fat that the pictures you can see. She doesn't like kiss too much, but you can do if you want! I love kiss. But she loves when we kick her pussy. After you can fuck her in many positions like you want but just be polite with her and nice, and she'll be nice with you. For condom, she didn't ask me to put a condom so I fuck her bareback. In fact I hate condoms and I always fuck bareback all the girls in Thailand. 99% accept without any hesitation. And I'm a creampie addict! You can't imagine all the sexy working girls I fucked in Soi 6. I think about 40 working girls just in soi 6.Anybody had Bom / bam bam at Horny bar bareback?
She's a feisty one. May look elsewhere at another bar for someone more willing.
On a side-note do these soi 6 chicks get tested regularly? Are you concerned about the risks at all?
If we are talking A-Go-Go security it won't be a man but men. Many, many men. Most are military trained and they will mess you up cowboy.Not sure what is worse.
1. Keyboard Warriors that don't know any actual Kung Fu.
2. White Knighters that can't get laid by hot chicks.
3. Power Trippers with no actual power.
AlwaysHere
07-15-20, 09:05
Woonwow on Thai Friendly. Now in Soi 6 also.
Great service for 1200 bath.
Definitely enjoys her work. Not rushed and she's happy to suck (tho she said not like too much), many positions, lots of energy.
I will repeat. Recommended.
Pimpampoumpipo
07-15-20, 11:26
It doesn't change the fact that no man, anywhere, for any reason, is taking anything from my person unless they have the ability to physically incapacitate me.I fear they can have the abitility indeed. If you have a problem with a local you can expect several Thai people to come to his rescue and they will be happy to get smashed up to a discourte farang. It is valid in the gogos but also with the mototaxis drivers for example. And even on the street. Do not forget either that Muay Thai is the national sport and that all Thais practice it in their childhood. If you don't know what Muay Thai is, I really recommend that you go for an initiation session during your next stay in Thailand. Personally I practice Muay Thai so I know my limits in fight and I always remain very humble.
If you behave well, as a responsible tourist, everything will be fine. If you are ever caught red-handed, it is better to be very polite, apologize, possibly say that you did not know and probably also pay compensation. And never get angry.
And it's better to fix the problem before the police get involved.
Anyway, you will not have the last word.
Woonwow on Thai Friendly. Now in Soi 6 also.
Great service for 1200 bath.
Definitely enjoys her work. Not rushed and she's happy to suck (tho she said not like too much), many positions, lots of energy.
I will repeat. Recommended.Must be end of the world, when shit like this happens and they getting desperate for promos.
Anybody had Bom / bam bam at Horny bar bareback?
She's a feisty one. May look elsewhere at another bar for someone more willing.
On a side-note do these soi 6 chicks get tested regularly? Are you concerned about the risks at all?Just show me picture. I don't remember the names of all the girls I fucked in Soi 6. And yes I already fucked in Horny Bar.
I fear they can have the abitility indeed. If you have a problem with a local you can expect several Thai people to come to his rescue and they will be happy to get smashed up to a discourte farang. It is valid in the gogos but also with the mototaxis drivers for example. And even on the street. Do not forget either that Muay Thai is the national sport and that all Thais practice it in their childhood. If you don't know what Muay Thai is, I really recommend that you go for an initiation session during your next stay in Thailand. Personally I practice Muay Thai so I know my limits in fight and I always remain very humble.
If you behave well, as a responsible tourist, everything will be fine. If you are ever caught red-handed, it is better to be very polite, apologize, possibly say that you did not know and probably also pay compensation. And never get angry.
And it's better to fix the problem before the police get involved.
Anyway, you will not have the last word.I've spent several months of each of the last 20 years all over Asia. No one has grabbed anything from my hand there, or anywhere else. Nor has anyone tried. I didn't even have to study kung fu.
Please Demount from your high horse. AgoGo are filled with lower level minded thinkers. They not worried about your Civil Rights.You're kidding. I've never been inside one before. Tell me more about it. Do you have to check your balls at the door with your coat? LOL.
I fear they can have the abitility indeed. If you have a problem with a local you can expect several Thai people to come to his rescue and they will be happy to get smashed up to a discourte farang. It is valid in the gogos but also with the mototaxis drivers for example. And even on the street. Do not forget either that Muay Thai is the national sport ..........Do not mess with them in their country. In the US they don't mess with us, we have Muay gun.
Danny Duck
07-16-20, 21:01
Do not mess with them in their country. In the US they don't mess with us, we have Muay gun.There's certain kind of people in USA I don't deal with.
To me rioting over chicken Mc Nuggets and stampeding Walmart at Christmas is unacceptable behavior. LOL.
No need to be a Tough Guy. You will lose every time.
Not sure what is worse.
1. Keyboard Warriors that don't know any actual Kung Fu.
2. White Knighters that can't get laid by hot chicks.
3. Power Trippers with no actual power.You forgot about arrogant, over entitled know it all's.
Not sure what is worse.
1. Keyboard Warriors that don't know any actual Kung Fu.
2. White Knighters that can't get laid by hot chicks.
3. Power Trippers with no actual power.Too bad for those that are stuck in their country behind their computers. Told you it gets worse for you.
You forgot about arrogant, over entitled know it all's.Want to trade places? Don't worry, I don't have the hots for Cat. It's safe. From me.
Danny Duck
07-17-20, 22:30
You forgot about arrogant, over entitled know it all's.There is a guy making $100,000's youtubing about Thai Bargirl drama. Just saying.
MeThinks he just makes stuff up. LOL. Good storyteller.
I unsubscribed.
Thought it was done but more bars opened up. Friday Farenheit (same boss Palace) has about 40 girls but lack of customers. Palace about 37 girls but lack of customers. Pin Up about 111 but lack of customers. Girls are catching on that the money just isn't there. Many are breaking their 10 day contracts. Saw Mook from Sapphire and Ghitzy from Living Dolls at Pin Up. Gave both the cold shoulder. Fucked already about 20 girls at Pin Up when they worked elsewhere. I'the be broke if I bought all of them drinks. Ended up buying a bottle of Jager to keep me busy. Saturday Queens (plus 70% of LK) reopened with re-modeling, thanks for free pizza. Busy as heck, but still not my style of girls. And the party continues.
Danny Duck
07-19-20, 06:31
Thought it was done but more bars opened up. Friday Farenheit (same boss Palace) has about 40 girls but lack of customers. Palace about 37 girls but lack of customers. Pin Up about 111 but lack of customers. Girls are catching on that the money just isn't there. Many are breaking their 10 day contracts. Saw Mook from Sapphire and Ghitzy from Living Dolls at Pin Up. Gave both the cold shoulder. Fucked already about 20 girls at Pin Up when they worked elsewhere. I'the be broke if I bought all of them drinks. Ended up buying a bottle of Jager to keep me busy. Saturday Queens (plus 70% of LK) reopened with re-modeling, thanks for free pizza. Busy as heck, but still not my style of girls. And the party continues.Rock and a Hard place.
Girls want money but it's the Dirty Foreigners who have it.
Rock and a Hard place.
Girls want money but it's the Dirty Foreigners who have it.Girls work this way (I think).
1. No contract, come and go as you please, but it will cost 3 drinks a night (paid by customer or the girl) before she can go, unless she stays until closing. Some clubs won't make the girls pay the balance to work that night, some do. So if Sally is not on a contract. Shows up at 9, Sally cannot get barfine until she gets 3 drinks owed all to the club. She may still get 50 baht per drink, but not sure. I see many of these girls give their tickets away to others. Come and go girls with no contract are usually very elite girls who can show up, work less than 1 hour, and get many drinks and a barfine in less than an hour. This type of contract is used popular now by most girls to "feel" out the market.
2. 10 day contracts. Must work every day and show up at certain time. Must get 30 drinks (in 10 days) is what I've heard (used to be 45) and they get whatever salary. 8-10-12,000 maybe for that contract. If the can't reach their goal, it's 50 baht per drink at the end of the contract days. If they break that contract and quit, they cannot work anymore for the club, unless the mamasan pulls a trick out from under her sleeve. This is where loyalty between mamasan and girl comes in and why some girls follow their respective mamasans to whatever new club she goes to like a dog on a leash. The mamasan has to keep lying to recruit girls to come dance every night and sign those 10 day contracts.
Reality is that still there are no or very few tourists or weekend warriors who drop that much money. It's a mainly expat crowd with some exceptions (bar owners, their friends, etc). The girls are not happy dancing all night just to get 1 or no drink. They are quitting right and left. I suggest that the club owners go back and have a meeting with mamasans and girls. We are in a contraction for the long haul. They might want to restructure everything. Drop drink prices, drop barfines, and drop ST / LT rates to 1500-3000. That way you directly compete with Soi 6 girls to get them to come dance and burn off some of that weight they've padded on for 4 months. Remember the typical Soi 6 go up in the room experience at one bar costs about a little less than 2000 baht with drinks and the typical Go Go bar ST experience is around 5,000 with drinks. Big gap there to ask customers to pay 3,000 difference to see them semi-naked and dancing. Get the total cost closer 2700-3000 mark for the Go Go bar and you may be able steal most of Soi 6 customers. 1500 for ST for the girl, 600 barfine, 4 lady drinks min at 600 is 2700. Why 1500 for the girl rates? Many of them are already asking for that off ThaiFriendly now. I know of a Pin Up model with fake tits fucking for 1000 of TF. If there are no Go Go bar customers, they will just do freelance from the comfort of their rooms and not dance. That means they will eat and get fatter. Then it gets worse, for everybody. So Monkeypaw advice is just drop the prices or Nuclear Option. This is the new normal.
If you know this history about Treetown during the lockdown and restrictions, you know basically all this social distancing crap never really took place. Pattaya is for rule breakers and rules on masks, social distancing, partying, and fucking random strangers never stopped us. Even with bars and clubs opening up, rules have never been followed except temperature taken, scribble fake phone numbers, squirt of sanitizer, and have a mask on at the door. Once inside it's a free for all. So how is it that Thailand and especially Pattaya is not even sick, no cases, not even one hospitalization or one positive test? I'll leave that up for debate, but I still think it's because Thailand is Monkeypaw's reward. Remember my nickname is pronounced "Thai" but spelled differently. So of course it would be "Thai's Land. " Believe in true blue, do you?
https://thethaiger.com/coronavirus/thai-government-pleased-with-ongoing-suppression-of-covid-19-despite-nightlife-re-opening
https://forum.thaivisa.com/topic/1173689-pattaya-sign-of-the-times-desperate-squatters-move-into-resorts-shuttered-bars-and-pubs/#comments.
Thai media Manager went to Pattaya and found desperate unemployed people squatting in the city's closed pubs and bars.
Ten were in one bar area in Soi Bua Khao in central Pattaya. The once thriving red light area is now a shadow of its former self with no tourists to speak of.
Both men and women are sleeping in the bars by night then by day they seek handouts of food and try to get odd jobs so they can survive.
Rock and a Hard place.
Girls want money but it's the Dirty Foreigners who have it.My fear is that because of lack of customers girls decide to opt out of this business and seek employment elsewhere so that when I get there (who knows when that would be?) most of the girls are gone.
Pimpampoumpipo
07-20-20, 16:36
My fear is that because of lack of customers girls decide to opt out of this business and seek employment elsewhere so that when I get there (who knows when that would be?) most of the girls are gone.This is probably what they will try to do. But there should not be a lot of work even in Thailand given the economic situation and in general they have little diploma. Maybe low-paid waitress and jobs in the agricultural sector (so work but hard).
But I think that as soon as the borders open (which they may know before us) and foreigners can enter again, they will come back quickly to the bars.
Sooooo, should I book a trip for August? Is it worth it?
Sooooo, should I book a trip for August? Is it worth it?I would like to do it too. But right now, 90 % of Thai people don't want foreign people in Thailand! Same for the kingdom. I think Thailand will stay closed till the end of the year.
Danny Duck
07-20-20, 23:34
No legitimate business man wants an Ex-Bargirl as an employee. LOL.
She may be hired for other things, know what I means.
Crocodilexp
07-21-20, 00:23
Sooooo, should I book a trip for August? Is it worth it?Are you already in Thailand? If not, you can book whatever you want, but not a chance you're coming in.
Crocodilexp
07-21-20, 00:30
My fear is that because of lack of customers girls decide to opt out of this business and seek employment elsewhere so that when I get there (who knows when that would be?) most of the girls are gone.The age of nice sweet girls on the game who clean up easily (so much you'd hardly suspect their former profession) were gone 5-10 years ago.
In the post-crisis period, Thailand won't exactly be teeming with regular employment opportunities for blatantly obvious bargirls with zero useful skills and the work habits of getting 2 k baht for 30 min of laying on their back. Some might go upcountry due to no customers, but I bet most will be back in Pattaya once the tourists are back. Unfortunately, the scene went down the drain long before Covid, and won't be any better afterwards.
Want to trade places? Don't worry, I don't have the hots for Cat. It's safe. From me.No trade thanks. I am not scared to stay in my country for fear of being unjustly locked up. Keep swinging in the tree's little monkey while papa monkey has the money.
LittleBigMan
07-21-20, 01:46
Sooooo, should I book a trip for August? Is it worth it?Personally, my heart tells you Yes! Because it would show a sign that things have opened up but from everything being said it is right now the middle of July. Unless you have some real power like being a diplomat even then there is a whole list of items required by home prior to even getting to the airport. I've read just 2-3 full stories from people overseas who needed to get back into Thailand and it took close to a month before they satisfied that list!
I took a chance to book a ticket for Feb of next year Chinese New Year and the way things are going outside of Thailand particularly the USA It feels like 50/50 but there might be some hope. Company in Oxford in joint venture with USA? Supposedly got pass the first phase for the vaccine with two major results now final testing of 30,000 groups if successful indication Dec?
Member #4698
07-21-20, 02:16
Personally, my heart tells you Yes! Because it would show a sign that things have opened up but from everything being said it is right now the middle of July. Unless you have some real power like being a diplomat even then there is a whole list of items required by home prior to even getting to the airport. I've read just 2-3 full stories from people overseas who needed to get back into Thailand and it took close to a month before they satisfied that list!
I took a chance to book a ticket for Feb of next year Chinese New Year and the way things are going outside of Thailand particularly the USA It feels like 50/50 but there might be some hope. Company in Oxford in joint venture with USA? Supposedly got pass the first phase for the vaccine with two major results now final testing of 30,000 groups if successful indication Dec?Having had my April flight cancelled in March and just now my mid August Flight cancelled and refunded by United, I am in no mood to buy another ticket even though I spotted some real good deals for March 2021. Good deals as in very low price, very short trans pacific duration, and fully refundable if the flight is cancelled by the airline. But no thanks. I am done betting against the virus. I am going to wait until the various vaccines arrive.
But there is good news on the vaccine front, as LBM points out, the Oxford University Group is making real progress. Here is a snip from today's WSJ:
"Vaccines being developed by 1) University of Oxford researchers and AstraZeneca AZN -3. 96% PLC; 2) Pfizer PFE 0. 69% Inc and German partner BioNTech BNTX 3. 46% SE; and 3) China's CanSino Biologics 6185 2. 17% all reported fresh updates showing their shots generated immune responses and were safe to use.
The results cement the trio's position among a few drugmakers and institutions at the vanguard of the race to develop a Covid-19 vaccine. About 160 vaccines are in development, including about 20 that have started human testing, according to the World Health Organization. With a clutch of front-runners now having reported positive early results, attention is rapidly turning to larger, later-stage trials that would prove the efficacy of the shots in tens of thousands of volunteers and potentially lead to the treatments' approval for use."
LittleBigMan
07-21-20, 02:29
Chinese New Year is my annual trip home 2021 it will be on Feb 12th, in that two week period my main purpose is to spend time with my mother is currently is 102, even before the virus whenever I get an email or phone call from home I think the time has come? I speak to her each week and although she is physically good her mental state seems to be getting worse each time I talk to her?
This gives me a lot of sleepless nights because if something happens I'm locked here in Thailand unable to see or bury her? I'm willing to deal with the ticket cancelation or even lose the money entirely it isn't the big issue with me.
Sooooo, should I book a trip for August? Is it worth it?I've got a trip booked late August to mid September. Sadly, I fear it will get cancelled. Not out any cash. Used miles. But god I need a holiday in Pattaya.
GettingFedUp
07-21-20, 03:43
Sooooo, should I book a trip for August? Is it worth it?And are willing to have 14 days quarantine at your own expense.
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?2184-General-Reports&p=2468337#post2468337.
Chinese New Year is my annual trip home 2021 it will be on Feb 12th, in that two week period my main purpose is to spend time with my mother is currently is 102, even before the virus whenever I get an email or phone call from home I think the time has come? I speak to her each week and although she is physically good her mental state seems to be getting worse each time I talk to her?
This gives me a lot of sleepless nights because if something happens I'm locked here in Thailand unable to see or bury her? I'm willing to deal with the ticket cancelation or even lose the money entirely it isn't the big issue with me.Isn't there an exception for entering or returning to Thailand for medical procedure appointments? If anyone already in Thailand with a legitimate current visa, especially an annual retirement visa, absolutely must leave Thailand, I would probably immediately set up an appointment for the near future to get some minor liposuction done, or a few hair transplants, maybe dental work, whatever, and try to bank on that as my excuse to return. Could be worth a try if you have no other choice but to leave.
Not that you must already be in Thailand when setting up that future appointment for the exception. It seems anyone who makes a medical appointment in Thailand from anywhere can try that exception. Just that I assume someone who has a longer term Thai visa could renew it that way upon re-entry rather than entering on an ordinary tourist visa.
An expat friend of mine who owns a condo in Bangkok and lives here most of the year but got caught outside the borders and stuck in his home country during the lockdown is looking into that loophole right now.
Member #4698
07-21-20, 03:56
Chinese New Year is my annual trip home 2021 it will be on Feb 12th, in that two week period my main purpose is to spend time with my mother is currently is 102, even before the virus whenever I get an email or phone call from home I think the time has come? I speak to her each week and although she is physically good her mental state seems to be getting worse each time I talk to her?
This gives me a lot of sleepless nights because if something happens I'm locked here in Thailand unable to see or bury her? I'm willing to deal with the ticket cancelation or even lose the money entirely it isn't the big issue with me.I would try to do exactly the same thing if I were in your position. My mother passed while I was on a road trip in Northern Peru. I drove non stop down to Lima in 10 hours and then I jumped on a flight back to Miami the next day as soon as I heard the sad news.
Isn't there an exception for entering or returning to Thailand for medical procedure appointments?I think the potential problem is that there will be no flight between BKK and SFO.
Franciscass
07-21-20, 05:02
Isn't there an exception for entering or returning to Thailand for medical procedure appointments? If anyone already in Thailand with a legitimate current visa, especially an annual retirement visa, absolutely must leave Thailand, I would probably immediately set up an appointment for the near future to get some minor liposuction done, or a few hair transplants, maybe dental work, whatever, and try to bank on that as my excuse to return. Could be worth a try if you have no other choice but to leave.
Not that you must already be in Thailand when setting up that future appointment for the exception. It seems anyone who makes a medical appointment in Thailand from anywhere can try that exception. Just that I assume someone who has a longer term Thai visa could renew it that way upon re-entry rather than entering on an ordinary tourist visa.
An expat friend of mine who owns a condo in Bangkok and lives here most of the year but got caught outside the borders and stuck in his home country during the lockdown is looking into that loophole right now.The medical tourism visa is about the only way anybody can get here at the moment but it is not easy to get one. No problem this end, lots of hospitals often in conjunction with hotels are offering 14 day quarantine wellness packages (cost 60 k to 70 k) approved for a medical visa by the powers that be, the problem is getting a Thai embassy abroad to issue a Confirmation of Entry.
Along with the hospital booking and the usual bits and pieces you need.
Insurance of $100,000 which includes cover for Covid 19.
Letter from your local medical provider saying you need the treatment.
Fit to fly certificate issued not more than 72 hours before take off.
Medical Cert indicating a Covid negative RT-PCR test issued not more than 72 hours before entry. With delays in getting test results back from a lab this is not straight forward.
Proof you have enough finances to cover all costs while you are here.
A friend of mine on a retirement visa is stranded in the UK. Despite numerous attempts to contact the Thai embassy he has been unable to get an appointment or even talk to anybody willing to answer queries such as is the medical visa available to long term residents. At first glance this seems to be a single entry limited stay visa.
Isn't there an exception for entering or returning to Thailand for medical procedure appointments? If anyone already in Thailand with a legitimate current visa, especially an annual retirement visa, absolutely must leave Thailand, I would probably immediately set up an appointment for the near future to get some minor liposuction done, or a few hair transplants, maybe dental work, whatever, and try to bank on that as my excuse to return. Could be worth a try if you have no other choice but to leave.
Not that you must already be in Thailand when setting up that future appointment for the exception. It seems anyone who makes a medical appointment in Thailand from anywhere can try that exception....I doubt a mere dental appointment would suffice. A hair transplant or any other similar procedure would probably require a substantial downpayment. I also suspect authorities would be quick to close loopholes. There are no more than 4 or 5 well-known hair transplant surgeons in Thailand, they cannot be seen to bring planeloads of medical tourists into Thailand.
... my mother is currently is 102, even before the virus whenever I get an email or phone call from home I think the time has come? I speak to her each week and although she is physically good her mental state seems to be getting worse each time I talk to her?
This gives me a lot of sleepless nights ...Yep, living on another continent when you still have old folks alive who may require flying back at a day's notice is tricky enough in normal times. With Covid it becomes unmanageable. I flew back from Thailand because I had been 6 months without seeing my old folks back home, now I find myself locked out of Thailand, God knows for how long.
LittleBigMan
07-21-20, 10:55
Isn't there an exception for entering or returning to Thailand for medical procedure appointments? If anyone already in Thailand with a legitimate current visa, especially an annual retirement visa, absolutely must leave Thailand, I would probably immediately set up an appointment for the near future to get some minor liposuction done, or a few hair transplants, maybe dental work, whatever, and try to bank on that as my excuse to return. Could be worth a try if you have no other choice but to leave.
Not that you must already be in Thailand when setting up that future appointment for the exception. It seems anyone who makes a medical appointment in Thailand from anywhere can try that exception. Just that I assume someone who has a longer term Thai visa could renew it that way upon re-entry rather than entering on an ordinary tourist visa.
An expat friend of mine who owns a condo in Bangkok and lives here most of the year but got caught outside the borders and stuck in his home country during the lockdown is looking into that loophole right now.There is currently thrown around by the government called " medical tourism " as one of the items associated with the list along with diplomats, marriage to a Thai but I never applied for one it was so easy to just keep obtaining a Retirement extension especially when one could just make an appointment at your Embassy and obtain a letter. Even if you fall within one of the categories like my brother who's got a Marriage one still needs to do the following which from everything I've read from others who went through the list it takes at least a month?
Time isn't on my side although I might be needed the other side of the world I'm also needed here more my wife has a form of Leukemia although she is doing well she needs me even more so there isn't anyway I can chance departing and not being able to return!
First one must contact a Thai Consulate which in my case is L. A. I wrote to them two months ago outlining my situation with myself here and mother back home still waiting! Nevertheless, one is supposed to contact them and first obtain a letter " certification of entry " submitting documents which I hear is a Covid-19 test result, other documents which I heard is a policy of insurance minimum coverage $100,000 USD (COVID-19) equals 3 million-plus baht coverage at my age for the period of my stay runs something like $5,000 USD. Even if you pass those hurdles and get a letter you must take another COVID test and it must be no older 72 hours prior to your arrival in BKK.
When it comes to flights when I obtained my Cathay Pacific Ticket at the office in Bangkok, the clerk told me they were running a flight out of Bkk one a week? To H. K. The aircraft was inbound to BKK as Cargo then turn around to carry passengers out. Although I didn't see it online he told me they were running daily flights from H. K. To SFO and back was going to increase after July 1st also increase H. K. To BKK if air space opens up which hasn't. So even if I got that far how would I get back into BKK since there aren't any flights it was suggested to contact the airline that was repatriating Thais and qualified people like medical, diplomats, etc. I believe Cathay might have been one of those airlines. The final items once back in BKK you had to be quarantined for 14 days.
As for using a medical excuse once you do your 14 days you can get your medical procedure and thereafter travel throughout Thailand for the rest of your trip?
Just thinking about this shit I want to load up and kill that MF in China! I usually do it for a fee but this one I will do it for free for the good old USA.
Banana Boi
07-21-20, 11:10
Not unless you have a Thai wife, a diplomatic passport, work permit or Elite Visa.Where did you read that you can get in to Thailand by buying a Thai Elite Visa? If so, I will buy my way in to Thailand!
Where did you read that you can get in to Thailand by buying a Thai Elite Visa? If so, I will buy my way in to Thailand!There's another site that I can't mention that provides links to this. Try https://thepattayanews.com/. You still need to get a current test, a certificate of entry from the embassy, get onto a repatriation flight and then go through quarantine for two weeks on arrival.
There is currently thrown around by the government called " medical tourism " as one of the items associated with the list along with diplomats, marriage to a Thai but I never applied for one it was so easy to just keep obtaining a Retirement extension especially when one could just make an appointment at your Embassy and obtain a letter. Even if you fall within one of the categories like my brother who's got a Marriage one still needs to do the following which from everything I've read from others who went through the list it takes at least a month?
Time isn't on my side although I might be needed the other side of the world I'm also needed here more my wife has a form of Leukemia although she is doing well she needs me even more so there isn't anyway I can chance departing and not being able to return!
First one must contact a Thai Consulate which in my case is L. A. I wrote to them two months ago outlining my situation with myself here and mother back home still waiting! Nevertheless, one is supposed to contact them and first obtain a letter " certification of entry " submitting documents which I hear is a Covid-19 test result, other documents which I heard is a policy of insurance minimum coverage $100,000 USD (COVID-19) equals 3 million-plus baht coverage at my age for the period of my stay runs something like $5,000 USD. Even if you pass those hurdles and get a letter you must take another COVID test and it must be no older 72 hours prior to your arrival in BKK.
When it comes to flights when I obtained my Cathay Pacific Ticket at the office in Bangkok, the clerk told me they were running a flight out of Bkk one a week? To H. K. The aircraft was inbound to BKK as Cargo then turn around to carry passengers out. Although I didn't see it online he told me they were running daily flights from H. K. To SFO and back was going to increase after July 1st also increase H. K. To BKK if air space opens up which hasn't. So even if I got that far how would I get back into BKK since there aren't any flights it was suggested to contact the airline that was repatriating Thais and qualified people like medical, diplomats, etc. I believe Cathay might have been one of those airlines. The final items once back in BKK you had to be quarantined for 14 days.
As for using a medical excuse once you do your 14 days you can get your medical procedure and thereafter travel throughout Thailand for the rest of your trip?
Just thinking about this shit I want to load up and kill that MF in China! I usually do it for a fee but this one I will do it for free for the good old USA.Yes, what you mention after having obviously done extensive research on it yourself was the "medical tourism" exception I was referring to. And, as you found, it would still require you to jump through several other flaming hoops along the way with no clear explanation for how long a stay such an exception would allow.
I had read in the Bangkok Post that 50,000 international incoming flight passengers were allowed entry to Thailand recently and 30,000 of them were using that "medical tourism" exception. There was no mention of how big or how small the planned medical procedure had to be to qualify. Flights from where or whether or not those flights were cancelled at the last minute, I have no idea. Luckily, I am not on the wrong side of the Thai border from my chosen residence in Bangkok so I have not done more research on it.
But I can tell you my expat friend who had to return to Belgium at the worst possible time to close the sale of his business so he would be free to live full time in Thailand wants to make sure he is among some future 50,000 flight passengers in October, November or whenever.
And if it means booking an appointment to have his love handles removed by liposuction and getting his teeth capped to make it happen that is one of the flaming hoops he is prepared to jump through. But that is someone planning to live here full time, which helps a bit to justify the likely expense and extraordinary effort, not just a two week punter.
No trade thanks. I am not scared to stay in my country for fear of being unjustly locked up. Keep swinging in the tree's little monkey while papa monkey has the money.Soooo. Unlike everyone in the Thailand thread on ISG, who are trying to claw their way to get back to Pattaya, the bars, the girls, the beach and paradise, you prefer to stay in your own country with borders closed. As long as you are being truthful and all.
And you consider yourself "brave?" You must be having as much fun as a "barrel of monkeys" wherever you are at. Why don't you write up a report on all the fun and partying you are doing. By the way, neither my father nor I have jobs or are employed. I'm so broke that the USA government gave me 1200 $ for stimulus, which equates to about 30 girls off ThaiFriendly to fuck. Thank you tax payers and the USA.
LittleBigMan
07-21-20, 14:49
Yes, what you mention after having obviously done extensive research on it yourself was the "medical tourism" exception I was referring to. And, as you found, it would still require you to jump through several other flaming hoops along the way with no clear explanation for how long a stay such an exception would allow.
I had read in the Bangkok Post that 50,000 international incoming flight passengers were allowed entry to Thailand recently and 30,000 of them were using that "medical tourism" exception. There was no mention of how big or how small the planned medical procedure had to be to qualify. Flights from where or whether or not those flights were cancelled at the last minute, I have no idea. Luckily, I am not on the wrong side of the Thai border from my chosen residence in Bangkok so I have not done more research on it.
But I can tell you my expat friend who had to return to Belgium at the worst possible time to close the sale of his business so he would be free to live full time in Thailand wants to make sure he is among some future 50,000 flight passengers in October, November or whenever.
And if it means booking an appointment to have his love handles removed by liposuction and getting his teeth capped to make it happen that is one of the flaming hoops he is prepared to jump through. But that is someone planning to live here full time, which helps a bit to justify the likely expense and extraordinary effort, not just a two week punter.I read that article from the Bangkok Post, it was nothing more than a projection from some of these so-called leaders who basically do nothing not qualify for anything but getting on their soapbox to blow smoke up people ass so they to show they are alive and doing something. These are just projections just like the 1. 6 tourists they feel will come to Thailand kicking down doors if they just say the word?
Another Bangkok Post you will read is the 300% rise in application for Elite Visa coming out of Hong Kong because of the locals want another avenue to escape the Communist new ruling that 300% when dig deeper is just 50 requests. Whippy! It is all smoke and mirrors.
GettingFedUp
07-21-20, 15:12
Where did you read that you can get in to Thailand by buying a Thai Elite Visa? If so, I will buy my way in to Thailand!BB,
It's not a done deal but that was one of the proposals from 1 August. The link to the Bangkok Post article is in the original post on General Reports thread.
GFU.
Taboo on Walking Street just opened up. Went in for a drink. It should be a taboo itself from the emptiness and talent there. Scary.
The age of nice sweet girls on the game who clean up easily (so much you'd hardly suspect their former profession) were gone 5-10 years ago.
In the post-crisis period, Thailand won't exactly be teeming with regular employment opportunities for blatantly obvious bargirls with zero useful skills and the work habits of getting 2 k baht for 30 min of laying on their back. Some might go upcountry due to no customers, but I bet most will be back in Pattaya once the tourists are back. Unfortunately, the scene went down the drain long before Covid, and won't be any better afterwards.I would do anything right now for a not nice not sweet blatantly obvious Thai bargirl with zero useful skills and the work habits of getting 2 k baht for 30 min of laying on her back!
Danny Duck
07-21-20, 18:14
Who is the go to guy for a Root Canal in Pattaya or Bkk?
$1,821 for one in USA.
Very professional done.
Just thinking about this shit I want to load up and kill that MF in China! I usually do it for a fee but this one I will do it for free for the good old USA.https://www.sciencefocus.com/news/the-coronavirus-may-not-have-originated-in-china-says-oxford-professor/
Should I book a trip for August? Is it worth it?Normally my counsel would be to read previous posts discussing this. But it would appear that in all the pages of this forum there isn't a SINGLE post containing informed speculation on when the Thai government might relax the current ban on visitors from outside the kingdom. So naturally, Mr. "Jrealyo," who has all of 14 posts to his credit, asks guidance.
Here is my opinion. Booking a trip in August is *SO* worth it, dude. Every indication is that the Thai government will totally open the borders in the next 10 days. This is such a no-brainer that Mr. "Jrealyo" should book an airline ticket that is not refundable and not changeable. That way, he'll get the best possible deal on airfare. Perhaps even first class or business class. With regard to his lodging, he should pay for that in advance as well. I recommend booking a five-star hotel and paying the full rack rate in advance. As for method of payment, he should use something that will make it almost impossible to reverse the transaction. Perhaps a Western Union transfer to a Nigerian booking agent. Finally, he should immediately get on Thai Friendly and start sponsoring some girls with generous cash payments -- again by wire transfer. After all, it's absolutely certain that he'll be in the Land of Smiles in about 10 days. There is *NOTHING* to read in this forum suggesting caution is in order. To the contrary, he should shell out his cash now, the better to guarantee a GREAT holiday when the Thai government opens the borders in 10 days time.
Oh, and Mr. "Jrealyo" should be sure to post a detailed trip report of his holiday in Thailand in August.
LittleBigMan
07-22-20, 01:47
Who is the go to guy for a Root Canal in Pattaya or Bkk?
$1,821 for one in USA.
Very professional done.Quick, fast, good, and a bit expensive I would go to German Dental it is located on Thappaya Road. I had one last done 3 years ago for one of my crown molars which they put in just under 5 years. They drilled a small hole in the middle to save the crown and did the procedure the cost was near 20,000 baht.
You can also try Dental Idea, on Pattaya Klang up from Big see extra, just a bit past Foodland on the same side.
LittleBigMan
07-22-20, 01:50
https://www.sciencefocus.com/news/the-coronavirus-may-not-have-originated-in-china-says-oxford-professor/I read this story interesting? Maybe why Oxford is the first to be ahead in finding a vaccine? As for Xi, the wrong guy no lost.
Also, the Government getting ready if not already to announce officially EXTENSION OF AMNESTY until Sept 26th.
Why is Thai porn so bad?
I have never been to Thailand. There are tons of guys on this board that love it there but when I look at the porn it doesn't feel like these will be great sessions.
I must be missing something?
I would do anything right now for a not nice not sweet blatantly obvious Thai bargirl with zero useful skills and the work habits of getting 2 k baht for 30 min of laying on her back!Unfortunately, that all too common sentiment among the predominant tourist customer base is probably a major cause of the decline in Thai P4P quality and Value For Money Crocodilexp and others have observed over the past decade or so.
Unfortunately, that all too common sentiment among the predominant tourist customer base is probably a major cause of the decline in Thai P4P quality and Value For Money Crocodilexp and others have observed over the past decade or so.Truer words were never spoken.
Banana Boi
07-22-20, 06:23
Taboo on Walking Street just opened up. Went in for a drink. It should be a taboo itself from the emptiness and talent there. Scary.Taboo has been scary for 4 years. What a waste of prime real estate on Walking Street.
Another Bangkok Post you will read is the 300% rise in application for Elite Visa coming out of Hong Kong because of the locals want another avenue to escape the Communist new ruling that 300% when dig deeper is just 50 requests. Whippy! It is all smoke and mirrors.
Too funny. It's a tough sell. Most people under the age of 50 wouldn't need to be in Thailand more than allowed by regular tourist visas. if you're over 50 you would just apply for a Retirement Visa for nearly free whether you are retired or not. 500k to 1M baht for 5 years is a lot of cash just for the right to stay in Thailand.
Taboo has been scary for 4 years. What a waste of prime real estate on Walking Street.The options are very limited on WS now. Here is an updated list: Bliss, Taboo, Glass House, Fahrenheit, Palace, Windmill, (maybe) Annabelle's, Doll House, Atlantis, Tantra, Pin Up, Pacha, Moon Club and the Scam are Us clubs (Stars, Moulin Rouge, Coco, and the Ping Pong Show above Airport). Some clubs now have shifted to 8 pm opening and not 7 pm (the Sun is still out). All Clubs besides Pin Up are operating at 30% previous staff and girls. Remember the best and popular girls like Fern and Fha from Palace were making 200-250,000 a month. They have enough saved to last them for years to come and are all MIA. I limit myself to Pin Up and Palace, plus one extra brave entry to another club that dares to open. It has been a disappointment on that bravery. I would say LK Metro or Soi 6 is the better hang out before 8:00 pm. This trip I've done more walking into unknown areas like Soi Buakhao and Chaiyapoon that I've never done before. I get lots of "I know you" or "You remember me. " I would look and it's somebody I've never seen before or at least I think I've never seen before. Is this a desperate attempt at cat calling? Or am I missing something here.
I read this story interesting? Maybe why Oxford is the first to be ahead in finding a vaccine? As for Xi, the wrong guy no lost.
Also, the Government getting ready if not already to announce officially EXTENSION OF AMNESTY until Sept 26th.Looks like I'll be here another 2 months at least. But yes, a quick Google search "Spain, COVID-19, sewer water," is like revelations. If this is later peer reviewed and confirmed.
I wonder how the governments that blamed China would backtrack and spin the new data?
Oops moment coming? I did say watch Spain (besides their opening to tourists and then lockdown again didn't go as planned).
Are the Thais on point about Westerners to blame?
https://theconversation.com/was-coronavirus-really-in-europe-in-march-2019-141582
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-53106444
Unfortunately, that all too common sentiment among the predominant tourist customer base is probably a major cause of the decline in Thai P4P quality and Value For Money Crocodilexp and others have observed over the past decade or so.True, sub standard Thai go go girls are much better than their equivalent in farang land.
Danny Duck
07-22-20, 19:58
Taboo has been scary for 4 years. What a waste of prime real estate on Walking Street..One simple trick would do wonders for Thai tourism and it would cost a Dime.
90 days allowed on entry like Japan. HKG. Singapore.
Thoughts?
Crocodilexp
07-22-20, 20:22
One simple trick would do wonders for Thai tourism and it would cost a Dime.
90 days allowed on entry like Japan. HKG. Singapore.
Thoughts?Not going to happen. Thai Immgration is too busy harassing and kicking out the foreigners already here, let alone allowing more to stay long term. It would take a significant change of both policy goals and personnel to turn that ship around.
LittleBigMan
07-23-20, 01:56
Looks like I'll be here another 2 months at least. But yes, a quick Google search "Spain, COVID-19, sewer water," is like revelations. If this is later peer reviewed and confirmed.
I wonder how the governments that blamed China would backtrack and spin the new data?
Oops moment coming? I did say watch Spain (besides their opening to tourists and then lockdown again didn't go as planned).
Are the Thais on point about Westerners to blame?
https://theconversation.com/was-coronavirus-really-in-europe-in-march-2019-141582
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-53106444Reading those articles the way things goes I'm sure the government who wants and needs to find another opposite point of view or counter research. Based on the timeline of the article there could be a few holes?
The Thais can make this point? Personally, Thailand with its airspace closed the only repatriation the cases are manageable they actually quarantine everyone here for more than 14 days the real problem is when they actually do allow people to come whether it be the Chinese, Koreans, Japanese and Westerners. The problem will increase to me that is a given even at the early stage of having a vaccine but the numbers will come are they ready to deal with it? Hot air will not kill the virus?
The Thai leaders, not surprisingly have done a great job reporting on their 3 major Thai stations that the problem is with Westerners maybe they know more than all of us that it actually came from Spain all along? Just like they reported treatment for the virus in the beginning, how they will have a vaccine soon, how they will hold the Tour DeFrance in a few years, how they will solve the traffic in Bangkok in a month there is a long list of claims.
Banana Boi
07-23-20, 02:40
Thailand wants people to pay big money for Long Term stays in their country. They want the broke ass Farang who have been here for a long time gone to make room for those willing to pay a minimum of $16,000 USD for a 5 year Thai Elite Visa.
The pressures on an old expat Farang will mount as more and more Hong Kong and China people buy Thai Elite Visas. That kind of money is nothing for them whereas many Farang in Pattaya drink during the day only because beer is much cheaper at 69 baht.
Franciscass
07-23-20, 05:36
Not going to happen. Thai Immgration is too busy harassing and kicking out the foreigners already here, let alone allowing more to stay long term. It would take a significant change of both policy goals and personnel to turn that ship around.Another example of how different the climate is becoming when it comes to treating foreigners. I went to renew my driving licence yesterday. It expires on the 26th.
Unhelpful official at counter "Cannot today, foreigners now have to make appointment, first date available 17th August".
Me "same same for Thai".
Unhelpful Official 'No, new rule is for foreigners".
Now it does seem appointments are becoming a feature of renewing licences but having to wait a month when their web site show available dates just a day or two away. That and the fact that the appointment sheet I signed specifically was headed "Foreigners" makes me believe the regime is not as friendly to expats as they could be. My visa renewal is next week, hope there are no surprises.
Why is Thai porn so bad?
I have never been to Thailand. There are tons of guys on this board that love it there but when I look at the porn it doesn't feel like these will be great sessions.
I must be missing something?Hi Friend, Travel to Pattaya once after this corona season. Your opinion will change.
Regards.
Ahh. I guess your not into Asian women. I Love Asian girls. I love the personalities. I love the culture. I love the girl bars.
I have screwed hookers in many countries and Thailand is Wonderful. Love Mexico as well / Tijuana. But Thailand is safer so it's got an advantage in that comparison.
Goyo.
Hi Friend, Travel to Pattaya once after this corona season. Your opinion will change.
Regards.
Why is Thai porn so bad?
I have never been to Thailand. There are tons of guys on this board that love it there but when I look at the porn it doesn't feel like these will be great sessions.
I must be missing something?No, you're not missing anything. Just keep what you saw in those videos in mind when you read reports here about this or that P4P girl providing "PSE." I always assume they must mean "Thai" PSE, too.
You want to see what is generally meant by "GFE" in these reports? Check out a few Thai TV rom-coms and some of those Thai movies where the big moment is when Noey finally smiles at the guy sitting next her in math class.
That's why I have tried, mostly in vain, to promote the use of a couple of new abbreviations to apply to this hobby as it exists all too often in Thailand in order to have them actually describe something a bit more specific and meaningful;
Real/True PSE and Real/True GFE.
They could be useful for times when other posters show signs of getting unduly riled up by reading the abbreviations for activities you really do see in most porn or that you would expect to get from a real girlfriend.
Banana Boi
07-23-20, 09:48
Why is Thai porn so bad?
I have never been to Thailand. There are tons of guys on this board that love it there but when I look at the porn it doesn't feel like these will be great sessions.
I must be missing something?Imo this is a very legitimate question. When I was first told to come to Thailand by guys like Breadman and Finnish Fucker, my decision was put off by a year when I kept looking at the horror on the free Thai porn sites and in the pics in the photo gallery thread on this site. I kept thinking why the hell would I travel so far and endure intense heat for girls of that low quality when I was happy with my German, Polish, Czech, Hungarian girls in German FKK clubs. As German FKK clubs quickly deteriorated in to Romanian and Bulgarian meat markets I decided to trust Breadman and FF and bought a ticket for the following high season. On my very first night I hit Sensations and Sapphire on Walking Street and kicked myself for not coming sooner. Back then there were easily 150 to 200 girls inside Sensations and close to 100 in Sapphire. I moved to Thailand soon after my first visit. Have only been back to Germany once since I moved to Thailand. Spring to Fall in 2020 was supposed to be my European FKK tour but we all know what happened to those well made plans. FYI I much prefer white girls over Asian girls.
Change in Business Model?
Last night went to Pin Up. Somebody important (a Thai girl, maybe related to boss) birthday. Because once she took time to greet me and pour my shot from the iced bottle, since I was the only one in the club with bottle service. Last night she didn't offer me a piece of cake though. Selfish. Looked to be only about 70-75 girls deep. Far cry from the 120 girls from previous visits. Those 10 day contracts are not getting renewed as girls are dropping like flies. Saw a few models that were decent. Still 5,300 (3000+1500+800 drinks) not including your own drinks for ST doesn't seem quite the bargain anymore, especially if there is nowhere to parade the trophy girls like before. Nobody was being barfined. Chilled with a taller cute leggy one that I may get later on, but def not in a hurry. Afterwards stopped by Palace which had 6 mamasans working but only 25-30 girls. 2 of the mamasans are from Bliss and some of the girls as well. They even had their Bliss uniforms on. So Bliss is now shut down, maybe others to follow. I think the owner had to combine the girls because business is that slow. I suggested that he used Fahrenheit as his ONLY club and combine all the girls from every club he owned and use both floors. Make it like a USA strip club with girls having to do what it takes to make tips inside the club. Stage is for shows. Set up some private VIP darkened areas and let their hands and mouths start making some tips with lap dances. He needs to probably follow the same business model of Hong Kong Club in Tijuana and use those rooms adjacent for sex. Rebrand it like a party everyday with some cheap ass buffet. Or even go Thermae business model and allow freelancers to work from the club. You want to be able to steal all of Soi 6 and Ibar customers. Make and sell some VIP cards. Open up at lunch time and afternoon just like Hong King Club. One big party from opening to closed. Charge a cover for food and entry plus one drink if you have to. This customer base of expats will come eat and let the girls work their charm. Charge girls to work there once it gets popular. Whatever you do, use Fahrenheit. It's the best in terms of space and looks. If you have a better venue than they do, you need to be able to deviate from the norm, change and adapt. Whatever it takes to survive and grow. Basically supply is down as demand is down, because like I said before tourist traps need tourists to trap. The mamasans are always asking me when are they coming back. I told them honestly, it's the end of the world as they knew it. The old Go Go business model is pretty much dead. Time to change?
P.S. This is good time to get LINE contacts from the Go Go bar girls and bang them for 1500-2000 outside the club when they shut down again.
On my very first night I hit Sensations and Sapphire on Walking Street and kicked myself for not coming sooner. Back then there were easily 150 to 200 girls inside Sensations and close to 100 in Sapphire. I moved to Thailand soon after my first visit. Have only been back to Germany once since I moved to Thailand.So is it the quantity of girls in Thailand that attracts mongers there or they really know how to fuck like German / Polish / Colombian. Girls. The porn makes it seem like Thai girls just lay there like a log. Let along enjoying the sex, I barely see them cracking a smile.
I am not implying anything as I have not been to Thailand so far but just curious to understand!
Danny Duck
07-23-20, 17:58
Imo this is a very legitimate question. When I was first told to come to Thailand by guys like Breadman and Finnish Fucker, my decision was put off by a year when I kept looking at the horror on the free Thai porn sites and in the pics in the photo gallery thread on this site. I kept thinking why the hell would I travel so far and endure intense heat for girls of that low quality when I was happy with my German, Polish, Czech, Hungarian girls in German FKK clubs. As German FKK clubs quickly deteriorated in to Romanian and Bulgarian meat markets I decided to trust Breadman and FF and bought a ticket for the following high season. On my very first night I hit Sensations and Sapphire on Walking Street and kicked myself for not coming sooner. Back then there were easily 150 to 200 girls inside Sensations and close to 100 in Sapphire. I moved to Thailand soon after my first visit. Have only been back to Germany once since I moved to Thailand. Spring to Fall in 2020 was supposed to be my European FKK tour but we all know what happened to those well made plans. FYI I much prefer white girls over Asian girls.You would be surprised what some think are Hot Thai Girls. LOL. First clue. Price matters.
Danny Duck
07-23-20, 18:00
Google covid silver bullet. Very cheap treatment for Covid. Doctor sounds very legit.
Looks like I'll be here another 2 months at least. But yes, a quick Google search "Spain, COVID-19, sewer water," is like revelations. If this is later peer reviewed and confirmed.
I wonder how the governments that blamed China would backtrack and spin the new data?
Oops moment coming? I did say watch Spain (besides their opening to tourists and then lockdown again didn't go as planned).
Are the Thais on point about Westerners to blame?
https://theconversation.com/was-coronavirus-really-in-europe-in-march-2019-141582
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-53106444That research is nonsense. It is obviously due to lab contamination. Do you really believe people in Spain were shitting out enough Covid-19 to be detectable in waste water in March but suddenly it had disappeared by April?
You would be surprised what some think are Hot Thai Girls. LOL. First clue. Price matters.Hot Latina chicas from Colombia and Brazil are way hotter than the hottest Thai babes. Fine Romanian, Polish, Czech, etc. babes are better looking than the most dazzling Latina babes. They are all head and shoulders superior to US hookers.
That research is nonsense. It is obviously due to lab contamination. Do you really believe people in Spain were shitting out enough Covid-19 to be detectable in waste water in March but suddenly it had disappeared by April?We are sex mongers. We have only expertise in two truths in life.
1. Married pussy is the most expensive pussy.
2. Paid pussy is better.
Let the scientists and virologists do their jobs. You can choose not to listen or listen. I only proposed a "what if. " So please don't try to argue back and forth with me. You can read the articles and write the biotech companies, scientists, and researchers and tell them you saw the article on a sex forum and you disagree. But don't forget who we are above. Just numbers 1 and 2.
Google "sewer water Coronavirus" and enjoy the reads. That's all folks.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-spain-science/coronavirus-traces-found-in-march-2019-sewage-sample-spanish-study-shows-idUSKBN23X2HQ
Banana Boi
07-24-20, 05:22
You would be surprised what some think are Hot Thai Girls. LOL. First clue. Price matters.It isn't even about the price. MP and I will beat a dead horse but not every guy can get top girls no matter how much they pay. Top girls in non COVID times can pick and choose who they go with. Then there are guys who don't have the confidence to get a be class girl so they go for the uglier girls. One guy I know believes the uglier the girl the happier she will be and the better service she will provide. Then there is just simple pure difference in tastes. I prefer the Thai girls that the Koreans and Japanese men prefer. The JAV idol and kpop type. Those types are rare to find in the 1000's of bar beers in Thailand. Most Farang prefer the natural Thai look with no nose, chin, eyelid, jaw, etc. Surgery. Go to any bar beer for them.
It isn't even about the price. MP and I will beat a dead horse but not every guy can get top girls no matter how much they pay. Top girls in non COVID times can pick and choose who they go with. Then there are guys who don't have the confidence to get a be class girl so they go for the uglier girls. One guy I know believes the uglier the girl the happier she will be and the better service she will provide. Then there is just simple pure difference in tastes. I prefer the Thai girls that the Koreans and Japanese men prefer. The JAV idol and kpop type. Those types are rare to find in the 1000's of bar beers in Thailand. Most Farang prefer the natural Thai look with no nose, chin, eyelid, jaw, etc. Surgery. Go to any bar beer for them.I thought the word was during normal times it was easy to get those exact same girls LT for 1,000 baht, that having BBFS+CIP with them without discussion was the overwhelming majority norm and the only reason everyone reading these threads wouldn't get that same deal anytime and every time with every girl was because they foolishly didn't just go for it. We might only have had to pay an extra 500 baht on rare occasion when we weren't on our top game.
Have we been misinformed about that?
MarquisdeSade1
07-24-20, 16:35
It isn't even about the price. MP and I will beat a dead horse but not every guy can get top girls no matter how much they pay. Top girls in non COVID times can pick and choose who they go with. Then there are guys who don't have the confidence to get a be class girl so they go for the uglier girls. One guy I know believes the uglier the girl the happier she will be and the better service she will provide. Then there is just simple pure difference in tastes. I prefer the Thai girls that the Koreans and Japanese men prefer. The JAV idol and kpop type. Those types are rare to find in the 1000's of bar beers in Thailand. Most Farang prefer the natural Thai look with no nose, chin, eyelid, jaw, etc. Surgery. Go to any bar beer for them.
Its all about 3-3-3 bro!
We are sex mongers. We have only expertise in two truths in life.
1. Married pussy is the most expensive pussy.
2. Paid pussy is better.
Let the scientists and virologists do their jobs. You can choose not to listen or listen. I only proposed a "what if. " So please don't try to argue back and forth with me. You can read the articles and write the biotech companies, scientists, and researchers and tell them you saw the article on a sex forum and you disagree. But don't forget who we are above. Just numbers 1 and 2.
Google "sewer water Coronavirus" and enjoy the reads. That's all folks.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-spain-science/coronavirus-traces-found-in-march-2019-sewage-sample-spanish-study-shows-idUSKBN23X2HQDon't tell me not to argue back and forth when you're doing exactly that. The fact that you posted that reuters article shows you don't understand the point I'm making. Of course there are a bunch of news stories about this because it's controversial and controversy sells. But we can use our own critical faculties to work out it's bullshit. How is it possible for the virus to be in wastewater in Spain in March 2019 then suddenly disappear for over half a year? Clearly the March 2019 sample was accidentally contaminated in the laboratory. If you don't have an argument against that then don't bother replying.
Don't tell me not to argue back and forth when you're doing exactly that. The fact that you posted that reuters article shows you don't understand the point I'm making. Of course there are a bunch of news stories about this because it's controversial and controversy sells. But we can use our own critical faculties to work out it's bullshit. How is it possible for the virus to be in wastewater in Spain in March 2019 then suddenly disappear for over half a year? Clearly the March 2019 sample was accidentally contaminated in the laboratory. If you don't have an argument against that then don't bother replying.Did you read it? Because your concern is addressed near the end.
"Bosch, who is president of the Spanish Society of Virologists, said that an early detection even in January could have improved the response to the pandemic. Instead, patients were probably misdiagnosed with common flu, contributing to community transmission before measures were taken."
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-h...-idUSKBN23X2HQ
And according to the Spanish scientists, none of this is "clear" at this point. And I personally find them more credible than some guy calling himself "*****dom" in a monger forum. Though mongers real sure of themselves aren't hard to find, whether it be on the internet or on a barstool. Take your pick.
Don't tell me not to argue back and forth when you're doing exactly that. The fact that you posted that reuters article shows you don't understand the point I'm making. Of course there are a bunch of news stories about this because it's controversial and controversy sells. But we can use our own critical faculties to work out it's bullshit. How is it possible for the virus to be in wastewater in Spain in March 2019 then suddenly disappear for over half a year? Clearly the March 2019 sample was accidentally contaminated in the laboratory. If you don't have an argument against that then don't bother replying.Go email this guy and argue with him about his published research. Remember though to tell him about your own credentials on ISG to make your argument sound more professional. Got to go. I have girls to fuck.
Albert Bosch, Professor, University of Barcelona.
"Albert Bosch (Full Professor of Microbiology, UB) has over 35 years of experience in Virology and has published more than one hundred peer-reviewed articles on enteric viruses in scientific journals, as well as complete books. He is a member of numerous scientific committees, notably the scientific committee of the Spanish Food Safety Authority, the European Standardization Committee (CEN) of the EU on standardization of molecular methods for virus detection in foods; he also belongs to the scientific panel Food and waterborne diseases of the European Centre for Disease Control and Prevention (ECDC). He acted as Chairman of the Astrovirus Study Group of the International Committee on Taxonomy of Viruses (ICTV). He is President of the International Society for Food and Environmental Virology and of the Spanish Society for Virology; he was the President of the Water Microbiology section of the Spanish Society for Microbiology and is member of the steering committee of the Health-Related Water Microbiology group of the International Water Association."
You would be surprised what some think are Hot Thai Girls. LOL. First clue. Price matters.Meet NumNim.
Numnim is an above average girl in looks that works as a model at Palace.
Numnim fucks for money.
Monkeypaw has fucked Numnim all sorts of ways, nutted in her face, then threw her ass away.
Numnim was girl number 26th for the Paw at Palace.
Numnim is not top talent in Palace in Monkeypaw's opinion.
Numnim still makes all this bank on a good night.
Any questions?
Meet NumNim.
Numnim is an above average girl in looks that works as a model at Palace.
Numnim fucks for money.
Monkeypaw has fucked Numnim all sorts of ways, nutted in her face, then threw her ass away.
Numnim was girl number 26th for the Paw at Palace.
Numnim is not top talent in Palace in Monkeypaw's opinion.
Numnim still makes all this bank on a good night.
Any questions?Def good, Numnin is half Indian blood gives her a different look from many of the other Thai girls.
Member #4698
07-24-20, 20:33
With all due respect to Paw and the esteemed Albert Bosch, I think it rather obvious that the finding needs further study before we accept the implied results as fact.
"While a positive result could entail a true positive that novel coronavirus was actually detected it could also mean contamination of the test sample (which can happen in labs regularly handling positive specimens) or a false positive.
"When it's just one result, you always want more data, more studies, more samples to confirm it and rule out a laboratory error or a methodological problem," said Dr. Joan Ramon Villalbi of the Spanish Society for Public Health and Sanitary Administration in an interview with Reuters.
It is also important to note that this finding runs contrary to epidemiological data.
The authors don't cite reports of a spike in the number of respiratory disease cases in the local population following the date of the sampling," Dr. Clare Crossan, a lecturer in virology at Glasgow Caledonian University, writes in an article for The Conversation.
"Also, we know SARS-CoV-2 to be highly transmissible, at least in its current form. If this result is a true positive, it suggests the virus was present in the population at a high enough incidence to be detected in an 800 ML sample of sewage, but then not present at a high enough incidence to be detected for nine months, when no control measures were in place," Crossan further adds.
The claim that novel coronavirus was discovered in wastewater samples predating the pandemic needs more information before it can be fully rated, based on our research. It is true that a sample yielded a positive result in testing for coronavirus. However, a positive finding can result from a variety of scenarios, including contamination from a positive sample or a false positive. Additionally, these findings have not yet been peer-reviewed and no definitive conclusion should be made until more studies are done. ".
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2020/07/07/fact-check-coronavirus-found-march-2019-wastew
On a more relevant point ie Is Numnim a Hot Thai Girl?
Well based on the one photographic piece of evidence supplied, I would pass, but who cares what I think or anyone else for that matter. If you dug her, MP, that is all that matters.
Funny story: when I still posted pics of my girls back 6 or 7 years ago, I remember posting a pic of a girl I thought was real cute as in 7.5 stars minimum cute. I really liked her body and the way she looked. Some BM's thought she looked good as well, but other BM's thought she was no big deal. Who cares? I dug her! That is all that is important. I came across a few photos I have of her yesterday. I had not seen her photos for years because they were filed away on my computer, but they immediately brought up fond memories which is why I mention her now. She was a great lay as I recall, but again, some BM's might disagree with that assessment as well. It takes all kinds. I lost track of her many years ago, but I wish I knew where she was. I would love to get into a bath tub with her again. That's all I know. Ha Ha.
I thought the word was during normal times it was easy to get those exact same girls LT for 1,000 baht, that having BBFS+CIP with them without discussion was the overwhelming majority norm and the only reason everyone reading these threads wouldn't get that same deal anytime and every time with every girl was because they foolishly didn't just go for it. We might only have had to pay an extra 500 baht on rare occasion when we weren't on our top game.
Have we been misinformed about that?I don't care about the money! Some hot Thai girls go for only 1000 and other can go 5000. It totally depends about her feeling! But in my opinion, I go every 3 months to Thailand only for BBFS + CIP. Thailand and Cambodia are the only countries when you can fuck bareback with 100% of the girls if you give them what they want!
It's very difficult to fuck bareback in Czech, Romania, or Russia even if the girls there are much more attractive.
By the way do you know other countries in the world like Pattaya when BBFS is accepted 90% of the time. I'm very interested to change destination and somewhere else in the world.
And especially now, because I don't think Thailand is ready to open borders again.
I think not before 2021. What you think?
I don't care about the money! Some hot Thai girls go for only 1000 and other can go 5000. It totally depends about her feeling! But in my opinion, I go every 3 months to Thailand only for BBFS + CIP. Thailand and Cambodia are the only countries when you can fuck bareback with 100% of the girls if you give them what they want!
It's very difficult to fuck bareback in Czech, Romania, or Russia even if the girls there are much more attractive.
By the way do you know other countries in the world like Pattaya when BBFS is accepted 90% of the time. I'm very interested to change destination and somewhere else in the world.
And especially now, because I don't think Thailand is ready to open borders again.
I think not before 2021. What you think?You left out Philippines. In may years BBFS +CIP, HAS always been standard in many yrs I'm going!
Banana Boi
07-25-20, 05:50
By the way do you know other countries in the world like Pattaya when BBFS is accepted 90% of the time. I'm very interested to change destination and somewhere else in the world.
Jakarta Jakarta Jakarta! Phnom Penh Phnom Penh Phnom Penh! I'm sure PI is the same but PI girls do absolutely nothing for me.
Difficult to get BBFS in Europe? 90% of the girls do BBFS! Oddly it's the same percentage as the Thai girls that do BBFS for you! If it's 90% ET should be moving to Pattaya!
European girls don't like cum on their hair and face though because they have to have sex with another guy 5 minutes after they're done with you. Girls like Kate at Acapulco/Goldentime have sex with 20 guys per day according to a particular French guy with multiple handles.
I don't care about the money! Some hot Thai girls go for only 1000 and other can go 5000. It totally depends about her feeling! But in my opinion, I go every 3 months to Thailand only for BBFS + CIP. Thailand and Cambodia are the only countries when you can fuck bareback with 100% of the girls if you give them what they want!
It's very difficult to fuck bareback in Czech, Romania, or Russia even if the girls there are much more attractive.
By the way do you know other countries in the world like Pattaya when BBFS is accepted 90% of the time. I'm very interested to change destination and somewhere else in the world.
And especially now, because I don't think Thailand is ready to open borders again.
I think not before 2021. What you think?I was also referring to Mr. Entertainment, who often reports that he and anyone else who just goes for it will get the exact same super hot girls Banana Boi was talking about for 1,000 baht Long Time including BBFS+CIP with no discussion or resistance to it being the norm.
And I saw a quoted post by MonkeyPaw fairly recently giving Mr. E props and confirming that he has indeed been right about that all along.
So I don't see any reason to think those super hot girls would only respond to and go with certain punters with special powers and qualities in light of what has been reported and confirmed here by you and others.
Unless the girl is intimidated by the good looks, charm or likely previous experience of some punters vs others and unwilling to risk making a play for them and being rejected. Or of being too harshly judged for her Asian features in the privacy of the room vs, say, Western women features she assumes he is more accustomed to enjoying.
There are many possible reasons a girl of any level of attractiveness will make a play or respond to one type of customer over another.
It has already been posted but in my experience the Philippines is a destination where BBFS+CIP is the norm.
Unless there is a widely available miracle cure right around the corner for this current virus threat, I don't see plane loads of potential punters entering Thailand the rest of this year.
With all due respect to Paw and the esteemed Albert Bosch, I think it rather obvious that the finding needs further study before we accept the implied results as fact.Of course we proceed with caution with all research. But this is such an interesting read and proves "there is something in the water." Asymptomatic carriers that show negative testing are pretty much indefensible against this. How does one stop that? Look at what's happened in Yosemite recently and then pretend as if took place over a year ago. This is a game changer when it comes to back tracing the origin. Maybe, if you do it farther back, you find out we all did come from the water or apes.
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/yosemite-sewage-tests-positive-coronavirus-180975371/
SNIP...
On a more relevant point ie Is Numnim a Hot Thai Girl?
Well based on the one photographic piece of evidence supplied, I would pass, but who cares what I think or anyone else for that matter. If you dug her, MP, that is all that matters.
Funny story: when I still posted pics of my girls back 6 or 7 years ago, I remember posting a pic of a girl I thought was real cute as in 7.5 stars minimum cute. I really liked her body and the way she looked. Some BM's thought she looked good as well, but other BM's thought she was no big deal. Who cares? I dug her! That is all that is important. I came across a few photos I have of her yesterday. I had not seen her photos for years because they were filed away on my computer, but they immediately brought up fond memories which is why I mention her now. She was a great lay as I recall, but again, some BM's might disagree with that assessment as well. It takes all kinds. I lost track of her many years ago, but I wish I knew where she was. I would love to get into a bath tub with her again. That's all I know. Ha Ha.Actually, Numnim was my choice of girl number 26 of 63 (total barfined) girls from what most consider the #1 bar (pre-COVID) on Walking Street. Somebody asked about what a hot Thai girl looks like. This is my way of saying, " a girl that can pull in 8-10,000 baht each night is hot to whoever is willing to pay. " But still to me, she was better than middle of the pack after staring at her for weeks naked. It takes me a long time to inspect the goods, thus the countless of hours in the GoGo bars. After we were in the room and before sex, she asked me why I waited so long? I told her honestly (as most know I have a tell it like it is mentality).
1. I can see the her (C) sec scar, even with the make up.
2. Her legs are too skinny and too long. Yes Virginia, there is such a thing as too long of legs on a woman.
3. Boob job looked great without a bra with clothes, but too unnatural without. Tell tale sign of you know what?
3. I can tell she has a Tom and dislikes men (It's a Monkeypaw secret how I know this shit and 98% of the time I get it right), so I was unsure about the sex quality.
She was amazed that I was able to pick all that up and gave me a decent session. She wanted to play the game with me and gave me her LINE without me asking. Next day, I walked right into Palace.
1. Numnim came and sat down, thinking we had something special just because I licked her well and she let me jizz on her face.
2. I bought her a courtesy "thanks for the fuck" tequila shot and a "thanks for saving me the trip to Calcutta" lady drink.
3. And while she was sipping on her lady drink, I looked over the middle stage and called down my 27th choice of girl from Palace.
4. Game Over Numnim. Homey don't play that.
P.S. Speaking of Indian looks. (Maybe BB will find this funny). Last night I was at Palace, chilling with a girl I knew from Tantra. An Indian looking guy walked in and sat next to me. I whispered to the girl, "This is the first time I ever saw an Indian guy at Palace. " Turns out (via mamasan and the girls), he is one of the business partner with the main owner of Palace, which also controls Bliss. He was checking on the Bliss girls that have been pushed to fill the void at Palace.
You left out Philippines. In may years BBFS +CIP, HAS always been standard in many yrs I'm going!Yes I forgot to mention Philippines! I was in Manila last December and yes I fucked everyday bareback and CIP. I always do CIP even when they don't want! I say sorry! LOL.
Meet NumNim.
Numnim is an above average girl in looks that works as a model at Palace.
Numnim fucks for money.
Monkeypaw has fucked Numnim all sorts of ways, nutted in her face, then threw her ass away.
Numnim was girl number 26th for the Paw at Palace.
Numnim is not top talent in Palace in Monkeypaw's opinion.
Numnim still makes all this bank on a good night.
Any questions?I like this girl very much! How much did you pay? Did you fuck her bareback BBFS? I'd love to fuck her too.
Meet NumNim.
Numnim is an above average girl in looks that works as a model at Palace.
Numnim fucks for money.
Monkeypaw has fucked Numnim all sorts of ways, nutted in her face, then threw her ass away.
Numnim was girl number 26th for the Paw at Palace.
Numnim is not top talent in Palace in Monkeypaw's opinion.
Numnim still makes all this bank on a good night.
Any questions?Are those boobies natural?
Meet NumNim.
Numnim is an above average girl in looks that works as a model at Palace.
Numnim fucks for money.
Monkeypaw has fucked Numnim all sorts of ways, nutted in her face, then threw her ass away.
Numnim was girl number 26th for the Paw at Palace.
Numnim is not top talent in Palace in Monkeypaw's opinion.
Numnim still makes all this bank on a good night.
Any questions?She looks like a tranny to me. I'm not saying she is one but she has the kind of trannyesque look I keep a wide berth from.
GettingFedUp
07-25-20, 17:26
By the way do you know other countries in the world like Pattaya when BBFS is accepted 90% of the time. I'm very interested to change destination and somewhere else in the world.If only there was some website where you could browse such options. Could be a business opportunity for you. Sell some advertising space & subscriptions. Let people post information (whether useful or not YMMV). You could call it the Real Talent Finding Forum (RTFF).
Once you have RTFF come back and gloat about the millions you have made.
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/custompages.php?pageid=Abbreviations#r.
Banana Boi
07-25-20, 19:08
She looks like a tranny to me. I'm not saying she is one but she has the kind of trannyesque look I keep a wide berth from.Is this because you don't like this look at all or because you have a fear that she may be a ladyboy?
Danny Duck
07-25-20, 20:39
She looks like a tranny to me. I'm not saying she is one but she has the kind of trannyesque look I keep a wide berth from.I had the same reaction. Something ODD about Num num.
If only there was some website where you could browse such options. Could be a business opportunity for you. Sell some advertising space & subscriptions. Let people post information (whether useful or not YMMV). You could call it the Real Talent Finding Forum (RTFF).
Once you have RTFF come back and gloat about the millions you have made.
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/custompages.php?pageid=Abbreviations#r.That was hilarious! And I like your new acronyms. Thanks for this entertaining post.
Is this because you don't like this look at all or because you have a fear that she may be a ladyboy?I just don't like the look at all because I prefer a feminine appearance. Her facial features are too masculine and her arms and legs look like those of a 12 year old boy. The silicones are a turnoff too. You can see signs of baby damage on her tummy so I don't doubt she's female but it just makes her even less attractive.
I just don't like the look at all because I prefer a feminine appearance. Her facial features are too masculine and her arms and legs look like those of a 12 year old boy. The silicones are a turnoff too. You can see signs of baby damage on her tummy so I don't doubt she's female but it just makes her even less attractive.
Is this because you don't like this look at all or because you have a fear that she may be a ladyboy?Not that I disagree, but that's why she was number 26th of 63 girls at Palace, and not my top 10 at the same club. I refuse to do anything above 48 kilos in weight, not slim or with a big ass. She is 45 kilos, very slim, and small round ass that is one of the best in the club. I too also prefer "softer feature in girls" and not so sharp ones. But remember, both ladyboys and ladies in Thailand do the same surgeries: the nose, the chin, and add boobs. So let me ask this?
Are we behind I times when it comes to judging looks? Why? Look at Jennifer Paweensuda who won Miss Thailand 2019. Her facial features are not soft or that feminine at all. She has a sharp mixed look, which is very much cherished in the Thai culture just as it is in the Filipino culture with "mestizos. " You can prefer or like what you like, but you better adapt to whatever new standards are set by those beauty pageant judges whose opinions count more than ourselves. Or else you get left behind and one day you wake up and realize you are attracted to trolls while the world has moved on. It's called, catching up with times.
I just don't like the look at all because I prefer a feminine appearance. Her facial features are too masculine and her arms and legs look like those of a 12 year old boy. The silicones are a turnoff too. You can see signs of baby damage on her tummy so I don't doubt she's female but it just makes her even less attractive.I don't get it. Most of the guys on the forum don't post pictures but are quick to pass judgement on the one guy that is sharing!!
MarquisdeSade1
07-27-20, 01:16
Jakarta Jakarta Jakarta! Phnom Penh Phnom Penh Phnom Penh! I'm sure PI is the same but PI girls do absolutely nothing for me.
Difficult to get BBFS in Europe? 90% of the girls do BBFS! Oddly it's the same percentage as the Thai girls that do BBFS for you! If it's 90% ET should be moving to Pattaya!
European girls don't like cum on their hair and face though because they have to have sex with another guy 5 minutes after they're done with you. Girls like Kate at Acapulco/Goldentime have sex with 20 guys per day according to a particular French guy with multiple handles. 90% BBFS in Europe LOL seriously LMAO.
Hi guys,
Here is my resume of last weekend Pattaya trip for 2 nights.
Arrived Sunday 1. 30 pm at the villa well located at 5 mn mototaxi from walking street, about 10 to soi 6 and in a very quiet area.
Just the time to change, rent a bike and we go to Alexa beach. Its about 10-15 mn going south, nice place, some good music, lot of girls, the owner of Queen club is here and she came with some of her hotties.
We are with a friend living here, his GF and some friends of the GF. One of them is fukin hot, with some amazing boobs. Chit chat with her all the afternoon while drinking, ends up going back with her in her house not far from there. She is a non pro. Very nice body, she is hot, she is pretty, her boobs are great to play with, her ass is nicely round and good to spank, her pussy fully shaved, sweet and quite tight her eyes screams fuck me and she wants it hard. Very hot time with her, then she ask me if I have to join my friends again or if I can stay with her tonight. I just arrive for 2 nights so of course I will go out to keep hunting. Called my friends they were back at the villa, but I got in the mood to go to soi 6 looking for Jib and Tuktik. So I took my bike and went there.
Park it in the middle of the soi and start my visit. Some bar are closed, lot of girls, very few customers, and most of the girls on their phone, I believe trying to find some guys online and maybe chatting their BF abroad. Pass to wrath to see Jib, but she is not there, route 69 close, so I did the street twice. Then I stopped at wrath for a drink, but after ordering, I see the girls stay at the outside counter all on their phone and not looking at the 3 customers we are inside. Finished my drink quickly and left. The girl ask me why, told her its boring here. So I moved to ruby, I saw the ambiance was more funny. A first girl very cute and in Pattaya for 2 weeks came to me. Had a drink together she is nice, but you can see she is very new. English very limited, she doesn't understand when I ask her what she can do. There is this tall girl just next to me, with a damn ass, dancing non stop, twerking it quite well, she is hot, so I say to my girl that I would prefer to talk to her. She comes and we have chat. Her name is Fa. Very good English, very hot, very cute, its a Go. We go upstairs and I discover her beautiful body, small tits but nice, firm ass nicely round. She don't take it in the ass but for the rest she gives her best and don't say no to some good spanking. At the end I ask for a COF or CIM but she declined, so I asked for her boobs, but shot went to strong and finish half on the face. She laugh at it, both going shower and am back on my bike. Damage 1000+300+drinks+100 tips.
Forgot to add after soi 6, I tried to pass to La poste, came inside, nobody except girls. Took a seat ordered a drink then the girls started to come to see me one by one following the line up. Unfortunately the first 4-5 girls of the line up are really not my type so I declined then decided to leave as there were literally no ambiance. Then I passed to Telephone, but closed with a paper outside precising close Sunday and open until 7 pm. Will try again on the next visit in 3 weeks.
At night we went to walking street but directly to 808 club as some friends were there, but we could see the street being empty, that's very strange to see, this usually full street with nobody. So we arrived at the club, lot of girls there too, not so much guys, but I found the girls acting like princess, not the ambiance of Ibar / Insomnia. But we had a 3 L bottle vodka (yes Sunday has been a very very big drinking day with already 3 bottles of vodka at Alexa Beach, but we will drink only 40% of the 3 L on the first night and yeah we are just 3) so we didn't want to move to another place. At least we had some good fun with friends, then 2. 30 am the club closed, and nothing else to go, so we went back to the villa. We tried to find some girls to come over, but nothing so interesting. So that was about it for our first night in Pattaya.
Second day of the weekend we were so hangover form the first day we couldn't move the whole day, plus some rain coming, but we could find 2 nice girl on Tinder. Name of mine was Apple (on Tinder) Sunisan (On Line). Beauty, nice golden tan skin, very smooth, beautiful eyes, nice lips, asked her to come with sexy underwear as I wanted her to strip for me. We offered them a drink and they started to become more relax, more hot and fun. Then we went each one in our room, she was totally wet, she started a good BJ, looking at me like she wants to eat it. Then go to the shower and we started a good session, she wanted it very deep, she came twice with bit of squirt. Finished cuming on top of her round brown ass, great time, if she could have done A+, that would have been the cherry on top of the ice cream. They all left and we stayed in the villa. Then go back in WS, but this time we wanted to go first to some A-Gogo. We visited 2 or 3 but empty, only girls bored to be there, so we didn't stay and went to the ibar. There very quickly 4 girls form table around us started to dance with us, we all preferred the ambiance there, so we stayed about 30 mn, but then we still had our big bottle at 808 and friends there. So we went back. I personally didn't stay long, went back at the villa at 00.30 am, my friends about 30-40 mn later and alone too.
Not a very busy day but was good enough, good fuck, good time relaxing at our pool.
Tuesday morning, we are going to leave at 12, but still want to have one last shot. Woke up around 8 am and started to chat on Tinder and Thaifriendly. Finally 3 looks very nice, and one seems more enthusiastic, so asked her to come over. 30 mn later she arrived, very pretty girl, very talkative and not stupid at all, was nice to talk to her. Body has some damage due to 2 kids, but she keep in shape, and her face is like an innocent angel. Best BJ of the weekend, damn that was good, and her pussy is sweet too. She moves well, but cannot take it deep like the one yesterday, anyway, she is good to spank on doggy, very nice ass and smooth skin. Finished on her boobs and she act like on a porn movie rubbing my dick over her boobs moaning, I know its acting but have to say as they usually mainly care of not having cum on their face / mouth / hair and want to wash it quickly, that was a one time quite appreciable. Then shower and she left, damage of 1500+100 tips.
After that taxi arrived, villa owner as well to check it, all went well and we went back to BKK. Our stay was short, maybe too much of alcohol, but we will be back in 3 weeks and this time we don't plan to go to 808 or just for a drink so we would spend more time in ibar and soi 6 having fun and also back to Alexa beach to relax. The only sad thing is I couldn't see Tuktik (actually Fa from Ruby told me she might be working in a A-gogo) and no Jib too.
It isn't even about the price. MP and I will beat a dead horse but not every guy can get top girls no matter how much they pay. Top girls in non COVID times can pick and choose who they go with. Then there are guys who don't have the confidence to get a be class girl so they go for the uglier girls. One guy I know believes the uglier the girl the happier she will be and the better service she will provide. Then there is just simple pure difference in tastes. I prefer the Thai girls that the Koreans and Japanese men prefer. The JAV idol and kpop type. Those types are rare to find in the 1000's of bar beers in Thailand. Most Farang prefer the natural Thai look with no nose, chin, eyelid, jaw, etc. Surgery. Go to any bar beer for them.
Its all about 3-3-3 bro!Haha. 333! Right on. One day they will invent a time machine so they can go back to get those no nose, no chin, no boobs girls. Until then, all you will hear is "20 years ago in Thailand. Full in the blank". Here's a old school pic from Palace. If you can't catch up to the present, there is no future for you and you will get left behind.
Not that I disagree, but that's why she was number 26th of 63 girls at Palace, and not my top 10 at the same club. I refuse to do anything above 48 kilos in weight, not slim or with a big ass. She is 45 kilos, very slim, and small round ass that is one of the best in the club. I too also prefer "softer feature in girls" and not so sharp ones. But remember, both ladyboys and ladies in Thailand do the same surgeries: the nose, the chin, and add boobs. So let me ask this?
Are we behind I times when it comes to judging looks? Why? Look at Jennifer Paweensuda who won Miss Thailand 2019. Her facial features are not soft or that feminine at all. She has a sharp mixed look, which is very much cherished in the Thai culture just as it is in the Filipino culture with "mestizos. " You can prefer or like what you like, but you better adapt to whatever new standards are set by those beauty pageant judges whose opinions count more than ourselves. Or else you get left behind and one day you wake up and realize you are attracted to trolls while the world has moved on. It's called, catching up with times.Why are you posting photos of sexy Thai girls in this period of covid prevalence when guys can't go to Thailand? How many negative descriptions of your girls would it take for you to realize that you are making these guys jealous.
Are we behind I times when it comes to judging looks? Why? Look at Jennifer Paweensuda who won Miss Thailand 2019. Her facial features are not soft or that feminine at all. She has a sharp mixed look, which is very much cherished in the Thai culture just as it is in the Filipino culture with "mestizos. " You can prefer or like what you like, but you better adapt to whatever new standards are set by those beauty pageant judges whose opinions count more than ourselves. Or else you get left behind and one day you wake up and realize you are attracted to trolls while the world has moved on. It's called, catching up with times.I don't think Miss Thailand is a realistic reflection of modern tastes. Advertising is a better indication and is full of ultra feminine faces and bodies, mostly Chinese looking which I like.
I don't get it. Most of the guys on the forum don't post pictures but are quick to pass judgement on the one guy that is sharing!!This isn't a photo sharing forum but it's fine if some guys want to do that. He did ask if we thought she was hot and some of us have given an honest response.
Why are you posting photos of sexy Thai girls in this period of covid prevalence when guys can't go to Thailand? How many negative descriptions of your girls would it take for you to realize that you are making these guys jealous.I'm in Thailand boning girls to my taste. If you're stuck at home wanking yourself off to photos posted on this forum you have my genuine sympathy but I do suggest you find better wanking material.
.........I'm in Thailand boning girls to my taste. If you're stuck at home wanking yourself off to photos posted on this forum you have my genuine sympathy but I do suggest you find better wanking material.I'm more certain of MP banging girls than you. A picture is worth a thousand words. Without evidence no one knows where you really are or what you are doing. C'mon, I need more wanking material.
Times are tough in Pattaya.
She was one of the first girls I ever barfined at Palace a few years ago.
She said she lost a bit of weight because she had no money do food.
Monkeypaw likes feeding the hungry.
She ate and ate and ate.
Banana?
One of my favorite vault girls. What is a vault girl you might ask? It's the New Blue. And my favorite color always. Power, protection, faith, courage, and strength.
https://noodlemagazine.com/watch/-135240268_456239867
Imo those who reminisce about the past don't have much going on in their lives right now. I have a married friend who has nothing but domestic living with his wife and kids now and he continually keeps reminiscing about 20 years ago when we were going to nightclubs every night picking up civilian girls.
it is human nature to reminisce about the past. Take a few minutes and read the archives on this board. Guys were complaining in what is now the Good Old Days about how it sucked and was better in the days prior to the Good Old Days!
Since I'm currently stuck outside looking in I say that I sure do miss the Good Old Days of 2016!So what does the future hold?
Meet Jane.
Jane works Palace as a model.
4 years ago Jane was no model.
Monkeypaw no like at all.
Monkeypaw thinks Jane looked more like Pocahontas back then.
New nose, new chin, new boobs.
Monkeypaw likes now.
Jane needs money.
What to do, what to do?
P.S. Can't let Jane sleep over because last time that happened, Monkeypaw woke up and wondered "who let the cleaning lady in?
Times are tough in Pattaya.
She was one of the first girls I ever barfined at Palace a few years ago.
She said she lost a bit of weight because she had no money do food.
Monkeypaw likes feeding the hungry.
She ate and ate and ate.
Banana?
One of my favorite vault girls. What is a vault girl you might ask? It's the New Blue. And my favorite color always. Power, protection, faith, courage, and strength.
https://noodlemagazine.com/watch/-135240268_456239867This girl has been working in Palace since 2016. Was also one of my first barfines from there but she put on a lotta weight when she had her baby. Slimming down was prob better for her but props to the paw for making sure they are nourished in these trying times.
It's going to be interesting to see what happens in Patters after amnesty ends and all the dudes riding it out are gone. Drain will be open but the tap won't be. Nothing left but locals. How many places will survive? In BKK it is already pretty dire in the P4 P areas after about a week or two of re-opening euphoria. Will be a tough haul I think. Bars, gals, etc will have to rethink their strategies and gear towards residents. And that is a whole different ballgame. Those that are willing to adapt just might make it through. I remember when the bars relied on locals to keep them going through the low season. But that was a long time ago and I would imagine there are very few that remember those times.
Mr Enternational
07-30-20, 08:37
It's going to be interesting to see what happens in Patters after amnesty ends and all the dudes riding it out are gone. Drain will be open but the tap won't be. Nothing left but locals. How many places will survive? In BKK it is already pretty dire in the P4 P areas after about a week or two of re-opening euphoria. Will be a tough haul I think. Bars, gals, etc will have to rethink their strategies and gear towards residents. They will probably just go back home again. I was reading an article yesterday where a gogo girl said she will stick it out until high season. Maybe she doesn't realize there is no high season if tourists can not enter the country.
They will probably just go back home again. I was reading an article yesterday where a gogo girl said she will stick it out until high season. Maybe she doesn't realize there is no high season if tourists can not enter the country.I agree with that assessment. Mass tourism will not return till sometime next year it seems. Some oily gals in BKK have already bailed and headed back home. At one of the BJ bars the gals are getting a customer every other day on average. It's amazing how the balance between locals and tourists has changed over my two decade tenure here. The P4 P industry is far more reliant on tourists now. Of course there are more farang dudes living here than there were back in the day (maybe this year has seen a decline), but the vast majority don't monger. In fact, almost none of the younger ones do. They look upon us as dinosaurs or neanderthals.
Haven't been to Patters since before the lockdown. Might head down next week to have a look see.
So what does the future hold?
Meet Jane.
Jane works Palace as a model.
4 years ago Jane was no model.
Monkeypaw no like at all.
Monkeypaw thinks Jane looked more like Pocahontas back then.
New nose, new chin, new boobs.
Monkeypaw likes now.
Jane needs money.
What to do, what to do?
P.S. Can't let Jane sleep over because last time that happened, Monkeypaw woke up and wondered "who let the cleaning lady in?MP, you lucky son of a gun.
Mass tourism will not return till sometime next year it seems. More realistic assessments from airline professionals suggest it will be closer to 2024. By then things will look a lot different. The masses won't be returning to the same places, because the places will have changed to adjust. You can't go home again.
It's going to be interesting to see what happens in Patters after amnesty ends and all the dudes riding it out are gone. Drain will be open but the tap won't be. Nothing left but locals. How many places will survive? In BKK it is already pretty dire in the P4 P areas after about a week or two of re-opening euphoria. Will be a tough haul I think. Bars, gals, etc will have to rethink their strategies and gear towards residents. And that is a whole different ballgame. Those that are willing to adapt just might make it through. I remember when the bars relied on locals to keep them going through the low season. But that was a long time ago and I would imagine there are very few that remember those times.I know a couple of go-go girls who call me to ask if I will be going to their bar tonight, tomorrow, the next day, when and will I please come see them? If I tell them I am not coming to see them, they don't bother traveling into the area and going to work at their bar. If I tell them I will probably come by to see them tonight or whatever, then they come to work that night. LOL. An unintended consequence of the growing "commission-only" system, possibly. If they are on commission-only, then I'm guessing there is no penalty for them not showing up. And unless they know there is a very good chance of being barfined by a trusted customer, they have no reason to ride the train or taxi into the area, suit up and stand on the stage for 4-5 hours.
Mr Enternational
07-30-20, 17:23
If they are on commission-only, then I'm guessing there is no penalty for them not showing up. And unless they know there is a very good chance of being barfined by a trusted customer, they have no reason to ride the train or taxi into the area, suit up and stand on the stage for 4-5 hours.Tell me again why they would not just go straight to the trusted customer and skip the bar altogether.
Tell me again why they would not just go straight to the trusted customer and skip the bar altogether.We did that during the shutdown. But not all girls want to freelance and would rather keep their connection to a mamasan and the bar system for the time when they return to salaried pay. And there might still be a reason on some nights, weekends maybe, when there is some income from drink commissions and/or a second customer. That must be compelling enough or there would be no girls in the commision-only go-go bars and they'd all be freelancing. BTW, not all that many customers available being a freelancer these days either.
I could cut out the bar and the mamasan and just have those girls come over in the afternoon or 2-3AM, too, but choose not to do that. For one thing, I'm not so interested in fucking at those times. And for another I really like the service some mamasans have been doing for me even well before the shutdown. Worth the cost of a barfine and a LD for the mamasan, imo. I really don't want to cut out some mamasans. I'd rather keep them doing for me what they do and not rock the boat.
Danny Duck
07-30-20, 18:35
Tell me again why they would not just go straight to the trusted customer and skip the bar altogether.It's not always about the 500 baht. Many like the agogo bar experience.
Danny Duck
07-30-20, 18:41
P.S. What's the atmosphere in Pattaya. Fun times?
In Honolulu it's dreadful.
Lockdown for 3 months. Numbers look good for awhile. Now surging. What's the point of lockdown.
George Soros is laughing his AZZ off. So EZ to decimate the planet.
It's not always about the 500 baht. Many like the agogo bar experience.For me, a go-go bar is the place to see the girls scantily clad, topless or naked before I take them, an opportunity to interact with them on my lap first, with zero chatting on Line required, I take them when I want to have sex with them not after waiting an hour or two due to some unexpected event. And, best of all lately, where a mamasan who knows exactly what I want will bring a new girl to me eager and happy to comply and the mamasan will even confirm it verbally with the girl right in front of me so there will be no confusion about it in the room later.
There is a lot to appreciate about a system like that. Especially when a mamasan in the bar is particularly useful in that way. I am not inclined to piss off such a mamasan or to subjecting myself to a life of annoying inconvenience by cutting out the bar altogether at this time.
In Bangkok at least, those hundreds of go-go bar dancers filling the stages right now weren't around in the food markets, standing on Soi 4, Sukhumvit Road, inside or outside Thermae until a mamasan called them, rounded them up and alerted them to return to Bangkok from their outer province. I am not inclined to cut them out of the deal and the money at this time. Not as long as they perform this job so well.
Mr Enternational
07-31-20, 03:11
It's not always about the 500 baht. Many like the agogo bar experience.What? His post was about a girl NOT wanting to dress up and head across town to get on a stage for 4 or 5 hours unless she knew a trusted customer was going to hire her. It was not about whether the customer wanted to go to the gogo bar for an experience and pay a 500 baht bar fine. If she had a trusted customer that was going to take her, she could just call him up and ask to go straight to his place instead.
We did that during the shutdown. But not all girls want to freelance and would rather keep their connection to a mamasan and the bar system for the time when they return to salaried pay. And there might still be a reason on some nights, weekends maybe, when there is some income from drink commissions and/or a second customer. That must be compelling enough or there would be no girls in the commision-only go-go bars and they'd all be freelancing. Okay. So now you are saying they DO have a reason to dress up and head across town to get on stage for 4 or 5 hours without there being a trusted customer that will take them.
Banana Boi
07-31-20, 04:22
I know a couple of go-go girls who call me to ask if I will be going to their bar tonight, tomorrow, the next day, when and will I please come see them? If I tell them I am not coming to see them, they don't bother traveling into the area and going to work at their bar. If I tell them I will probably come by to see them tonight or whatever, then they come to work that night. LOL. Are gogo bars run differently in Bangkok than in Pattaya? In Pattaya a girl works at a gogo bar on a contract, usually 7 or 10 days. They can't just show up for work on a random night whenever they believe a customer will meet them there. If they don't fulfill their entire contract they don't get paid and have to pay the barfine each day they don't show up for work. At least this is how it worked pre-COVID. I think MP has confirmed there are currently no contracts since business is slow.
What? His post was about a girl NOT wanting to dress up and head across town to get on a stage for 4 or 5 hours unless she knew a trusted customer was going to hire her. It was not about whether the customer wanted to go to the gogo bar for an experience and pay a 500 baht bar fine. If she had a trusted customer that was going to take her, she could just call him up and ask to go straight to his place instead.
Okay. So now you are saying they DO have a reason to dress up and head across town to get on stage for 4 or 5 hours without there being a trusted customer that will take them.Actually, I said there might be a reason for it. By now the girls have personally experienced the trends and customer flow from night to night in ways I have not. I assume no night is seen as potentially worth the trip for at least 2,000 baht to them as when they have been told by a trusted repeat customer that he will go there tonight to take her.
And when those couple of girls Line me to ask if I please will go to their bar on a certain night I have no delusions that I am the only trusted repeat customer they have been calling to ask about that.
Are gogo bars run differently in Bangkok than in Pattaya? In Pattaya a girl works at a gogo bar on a contract, usually 7 or 10 days. They can't just show up for work on a random night whenever they believe a customer will meet them there. If they don't fulfill their entire contract they don't get paid and have to pay the barfine each day they don't show up for work. At least this is how it worked pre-COVID. I think MP has confirmed there are currently no contracts since business is slow.I think contracts were the norm in Bangkok pre shutdown. But I don't know if the girls in the go-go bars I have gone into and pulled from since the reopenings are now "commission-only" or not. I have not asked.
But in some of the cases I mentioned the behavior of the mamasans and the girls has all the earmarks of them being "commission-only." They are much more attentive and aggressive about wanting to know how they can close a barfine deal with me ASAP and not even all that interested in sitting around hustling LDs since the commission on that is much less by comparison to the money they can make from a barfine and the pool of potential customers for it is very small these days.
However, I felt that in some bars the reception was so cool and aloof they could very well be pulling some level of salary: Rainbow 2, Butterflies, Billboard, for example.
One of the repeat girls I mention called me recently and told me she had not gone to her bar for three nights but would definitely make the trip if I was going there to take her that night. And I am fairly certain that call was triggered by her mamasan who called her to say I passed by her bar and chatted with her standing outside the night before as I was heading to a different bar. She said the mamasan told her she saw me and chatted a bit. Actually, the mamasan tried to match me up with a different eager candidate in her line up but I was headed to a different bar and mamasan for the same higher than usual quality of service that night.
There was no indication that the girl would or did suffer a penalty for not showing up for a few days in a row.
Banana Boi
07-31-20, 06:28
One of the repeat girls I mention called me recently and told me she had not gone to her bar for three nights .................There was no indication that the girl would or did suffer a penalty for not showing up for a few days in a row.No penalty for this situation even if under contract pre-COVID as girls are allowed to take days off between 7/10 day contracts. But like you and others have mentioned there does not seem to be contracts at this time as bars could not even afford to have girls if contracts had to be paid out.
As for commission basis for mamasans, I assumed they were always on commission basis since they are imo the agents / pimps. The more aggressive behavior is likely out of pure desperation during these times.
Am I the only person who ignores and does not speak with mamasans or bar managers/owners unless they're fairly hot like S at Infinity agogo or the bar owner of a bar in Simon Complex on 2nd? They serve no purpose to me.
Meet Praew.
Praew had shaken her ass at Billboards.
Praew now shakes her ass Pin Up.
But last night, Praew shook her ass at Club Monkeypaw.
Shake, shake, shake.
Like these Polaroid pictures?
It's not always about the 500 baht. Many like the agogo bar experience.Meet Som.
Some days Som works at Pin Up.
Supposedly Som is a sexy model.
Sometimes Som gets bar-fined.
Som same same drinks Sangsom like the Thais.
So add 3 of those for Som.
Sex with Som is 1500 plus 3000.
Suckers pay Som that price.
So watch out for the spitting Serpent.
But at Club Monkeypaw, we got Som Specials all night for 1000 baht. Does that make me cheap? Or is Monkeypaw oh so special?
No penalty for this situation even if under contract pre-COVID as girls are allowed to take days off between 7/10 day contracts. But like you and others have mentioned there does not seem to be contracts at this time as bars could not even afford to have girls if contracts had to be paid out.
As for commission basis for mamasans, I assumed they were always on commission basis since they are imo the agents / pimps. The more aggressive behavior is likely out of pure desperation during these times.
Am I the only person who ignores and does not speak with mamasans or bar managers/owners unless they're fairly hot like S at Infinity agogo or the bar owner of a bar in Simon Complex on 2nd? They serve no purpose to me.Mamasans in general too pushy or always asking for drinks. That infinity gogo bar one is a standout and I sometimes buy her drinks. For managers, used to always talk to Nick from Spankys BKK and share some drinks with him. Very decent guy. Mamasans in G clubs like the pimp in BKK however are totally different. Have one which has known me for years and always brings me girls meeting my spec. Almost every time she can pick my type as well as knows my needs. That mamasan is invaluable.
More realistic assessments from airline professionals suggest it will be closer to 2024. By then things will look a lot different. The masses won't be returning to the same places, because the places will have changed to adjust. You can't go home again.For me there is no better place to be at this time than where I am right now. At home. At some point in time I was contemplating going to Mexico but changed my mind. I will have to be content banging mostly overweight girls for some time to come - 4 years? I hope not. I would like to visit Thailand and SEA again sometime in the future and am pretty certain it would not be like my previous visits. The world is changing and we must get used to it. "Adapt or perish, now as ever, is nature's inexorable imperative". H. G. Wells.
Big Daddy 1906
07-31-20, 20:25
Mamasans in general too pushy or always asking for drinks. That infinity gogo bar one is a standout and I sometimes buy her drinks. For managers, used to always talk to Nick from Spankys BKK and share some drinks with him. Very decent guy. Mamasans in G clubs like the pimp in BKK however are totally different. Have one which has known me for years and always brings me girls meeting my spec. Almost every time she can pick my type as well as knows my needs. That mamasan is invaluable.Many years ago when I was in Pattaya, something came over me and all I wanted was mamasans. They would find it hysterical when I told them that I wanted to bar fine THEM. When they realized that I was serious, then things got interesting. Out of all the gogos I went to, I would say I had at least a 90% success rate. And it was all worth it. Sure they may be a bit older, but they still looked pretty good and they were ALL about the skills. They put on no airs, threw down and got healthy tips on top. I think that they liked to be appreciated and that they still have "it".
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Am I the only person who ignores and does not speak with mamasans or bar managers/owners unless they're fairly hot like S at Infinity agogo or the bar owner of a bar in Simon Complex on 2nd? They serve no purpose to me.If I was a "go with the flow and see what happens in the room" kind of guy where it didn't matter to me if the girl required a condom or not to fuck, I would never talk to a mamasan. Hell, I'd barely talk to the girl about anything beyond names, where you from, where you stay kind of stuff. Just gesture to come over, buy a LD (if that), agree to pay the girl's asking price or close to it and you're good to go for that level of service with 99.99% of the bargirls in Thailand.
Generally speaking, mamasans are totally useless for important intel on their girls. They don't know anything. They don't even notice which of their girls tends to get a lot of repeats from local expat Farang customers, which could be an important bit of info for someone like me. And telling a mamasan my "spec" is a good looking young girl who would be comfortable to have "boom boom no condom" with me has gotten a lot of interesting responses throughout the years but never produced a rewarding result for me.
Until about a year ago.
Several months back I happened to take a girl in a go-go bar that turned out to be one of the mamasan's "favorites"; a girl who is tight with the mamasan, moves with her to whatever bar she works, is in close contact with her for various reasons. My session with that girl went very well and a week or so later I repeated. Next thing I know my girl has told her mamasan everything about the sessions and apparently the reviews were good on all the factors that could matter to either one of them; that I was clean, polite, nice to her in the room, fun to be with, paid fairly, was no pregnancy risk (vasectomy), had a recent all clear medical blood check document and that doing BBFS, "boom boom no condom", with me had produced no ill effects and downsides.
Seriously. The next time I went into that bar and my repeat girl happened not to be there (I wasn't really looking for her that time anyway), the mamasan made a beeline for me and told me everything above that she knew about me and that "I know what you want. You good man. I will get for you." And, with that, she walked over to the line of girls sitting on the stools during their dance break, leaned in to say something to the first one and pointed to me on the other side of the bar. Head shake no. Next girl, same thing, brief chat, pointing to me, but that time the girl looked over, popped a big beaming smile and nodded Yes. So the mamasan took that very cute, slim, lovely young girl by the hand and brought her to me. She plopped down next to me, gave me a hug and seemed thrilled by the prospect of me taking her and potentially being my next repeat as she'd seen me do with the previous girl. To seal the deal and assure me this was not a scam, the mamasan leaned in between the two of us and said the words to the girl in English and Thai; "You ok to do boom boom no condom with him? He good man." Absolutely Yes.
I bought the girl and the mamasan a LD, the girl changed into her street clothes and off we went to a very rewarding session in my room for both of us. No hassles, no confrontations, no further discussion about condoms, no change of heart unpleasant surprises, just good times. Oh, I also passed a 100 baht note to the mamasan on our way out of the bar.
That pattern repeated itself several times in that bar with that mamasan, each time with a new and different girl ("'New' is good", the mamasan would say) unless I insisted on repeating one from before, which I still did on occasion.
Not long after that, a second mamasan in another go-go bar responded positively to my "spec" request as well. Wonder of wonders. And this was one of those bars where the girls' reception for me when I walked in was cool, aloof and seemingly disinterested. These mamasans have seen me around for years. Do they compare notes? Again, this was long before the reduction in tourism and shutdown. Recently, since the reopening of some of the bars, two more mamasans in other bars have responded similarly to my "spec" request; The mamasan goes over to a line up of girls on the stage or sitting on the sidelines, chooses a girl to chat briefly with and points to me. That girl or maybe the next one smiles and nods and the mamasan brings her to me for my approval.
Now, I can no longer dismiss all mamasans as useless to my needs as I did in years past. To be sure, not every mamasan in every bar responds so positively to my "spec" request. It is still hit and miss. But hit and miss over the past year or so is quite a bit better than the way it was before. I leave it to others here to decide whether or not the kind of service I described above is worth talking to a mamasan about, buying her a LD and maybe tipping her an extra 100 baht.
btw, this is primarily about my experiences in various Bangkok go-go bars. I can't say I have had any luck on this count with Pattaya go-go bars. However, from what I read, getting BBFS+CIP without a word of discussion about it with the hottest Pattaya go-go girls touted by the Pattaya go-go bar experts here is "the norm" anyway. And if you pay more than 1,000 baht for that and a Long Time with those hottest girls in the best Pattaya go-go bars, you really aren't trying very hard. So talking to a mamasan about what I talk to them about is apparently totally unnecessary in Pattaya even if you are taking the top girls in the best Pattaya go-go bars.
Danny Duck
08-01-20, 04:28
Meet Som.
Some days Som works at Pin Up.
Supposedly Som is a sexy model.
Sometimes Som gets bar-fined.
Som same same drinks Sangsom like the Thais.
So add 3 of those for Som.
Sex with Som is 1500 plus 3000.
Suckers pay Som that price.
So watch out for the spitting Serpent.
But at Club Monkeypaw, we got Som Specials all night for 1000 baht. Does that make me cheap? Or is Monkeypaw oh so special?1500 Barfine. It's why I think I see very few girls being bargained at Happy agogo.
Am I wrong or right.
I have small sample size.
Mr Enternational
08-01-20, 05:06
Am I the only person who ignores and does not speak with mamasans or bar managers/owners unless they're fairly hot like S at Infinity agogo or the bar owner of a bar in Simon Complex on 2nd? They serve no purpose to me.I don't get it either. I don't need any help or tips when I am in a room full of hookers. All they can do is annoy me or get in the damn way. They are like those people walking by trying to sell you shit when you are relaxing at the beach.
Mr Enternational
08-01-20, 05:18
Sex with Som is 1500 plus 3000. Suckers pay Som that price. So watch out for the spitting Serpent. But at Club Monkeypaw, we got Som Specials all night for 1000 baht. Does that make me cheap? Or is Monkeypaw oh so special?Move along folks. There is nothing new to see here. I fucked one of these ugly ass trolls last night for the same 1000 in her newly-built condo.
Move along folks. There is nothing new to see here. I fucked one of these ugly ass trolls last night for the same 1000 in her newly-built condo.I didn't think Pattaya go-go girls were generally so much older than their Bangkok counterparts. Thought it would be the other way around.
Not that it's a bad thing. A couple of those ladies still look pretty good. Older ladies can sometimes be better in bed than young ones. Well, more accommodating.
Banana Boi
08-01-20, 07:23
I didn't think Pattaya go-go girls were generally so much older than their Bangkok counterparts. Thought it would be the other way around.Depends on the bar. Those are Sapphire girls in Mr. E's photo and in general Sapphire dancers are older. Many have been there for 5+ years. I would say both cities are age comparable. Thai girls in both cities start at an early age and the unlucky unsponsored ones work til their 60's in bar beers.
Meet Praew. Praew had shaken her ass at Billboards. Praew now shakes her ass Pin Up.
Is this the really fun girl we met at Pin Up and gave her a blue tongue? She used to work at Sapphire.
1500 Barfine. It's why I think I see very few girls being bargained at Happy agogo. Am I wrong or right. I have small sample size.
Happy agogo has a cheaper barfine than most upper tier gogo bars. I remember in 2015/2016 when their barfine was 800 baht vs 2000 at What's Up and 1500 at Sensations.
I would like to visit Thailand and SEA again sometime in the future and am pretty certain it would not be like my previous visits. The world is changing and we must get used to it.
To all those pessimistic negative grumpy guys who constantly whine about the Good Old Days and complain how Thailand sucked in 2019. Hope you're happy. One should be very happy if Thailand ever returns to those crappy days of 2019 again. 2024 is not out of the realm for some countries like USA if Trump is still showing ignorance to the virus and Americans feel their Freedom of Rights excludes them from having to Social Distance and wear masks.
Mr Enternational
08-01-20, 07:36
I didn't think Pattaya go-go girls were generally so much older than their Bangkok counterparts. Thought it would be the other way around.
Not that it's a bad thing. A couple of those ladies still look pretty good. Older ladies can sometimes be better in bed than young ones. Well, more accommodating.Beats me. I don't get into ages. I just fuck who I like. The chick I fucked turned 24 the day before yesterday. She wanted me to come that day but I did not want to be rushed since her friends were taking her out to celebrate.
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