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To all those pessimistic negative grumpy guys who constantly whine about the Good Old Days and complain how Thailand sucked in 2019. Hope you're happy. One should be very happy if Thailand ever returns to those crappy days of 2019 again. 2024 is not out of the realm for some countries like USA if Trump is still showing ignorance to the virus and Americans feel their Freedom of Rights excludes them from having to Social Distance and wear masks.Actually many of us grumpy old men (and grumpy middle aged dudes like myself) who are residents of Thailand think the situation is pretty interesting and in some ways works in our favor. 90 Baht drinks at Baccara, bar fines going down, and short time fees going down. Most gals in the Go-Go's in Bangkok can be had for 1500 short. And methinks when amnesty ends in September it's going to be even more a buyer's market both in Bangkok and in Pattaya. Happy days are here again.
I agree with you, it's going to be a long time before the world is open up to travel again. It's amazing how many people are resistant to wearing masks and extending courtesy to other people.
Actually many of us grumpy old men (and grumpy middle aged dudes like myself) who are residents of Thailand think the situation is pretty interesting and in some ways works in our favor. 90 Baht drinks at Baccara, bar fines going down, and short time fees going down. Most gals in the Go-Go's in Bangkok can be had for 1500 short. And methinks when amnesty ends in September it's going to be even more a buyer's market both in Bangkok and in Pattaya. Happy days are here again.
I agree with you, it's going to be a long time before the world is open up to travel again. It's amazing how many people are resistant to wearing masks and extending courtesy to other people.Do not expect this to be the case when things open up. I remember when I first went to Thailand girls were desperate and will allow anything and charge less. Right now it is desperate times for them. Moment legions of mongers come flooding back in and throw money around it is going to screw things up for average monger. I am sure many of the girls are staying put in their provinces one being afraid of covid and other is not getting their expected price for sex.
Unfortunately for Thailand most of tourists who come on vacation go to resorts and that income will be gone for a while.
Do not expect this to be the case when things open up. I remember when I first went to Thailand girls were desperate and will allow anything and charge less. Right now it is desperate times for them. Moment legions of mongers come flooding back in and throw money around it is going to screw things up for average monger. I am sure many of the girls are staying put in their provinces one being afraid of covid and other is not getting their expected price for sex.
Unfortunately for Thailand most of tourists who come on vacation go to resorts and that income will be gone for a while.It's going to be at least sometime next year before the floodgates open again. So we'll enjoy the situation while it lasts.
It's going to be at least sometime next year before the floodgates open again. So we'll enjoy the situation while it lasts.It will be interesting to see if there will indeed be opening flood gates.
Many here talk up desperately waiting for the first available flight and there surely will be those that return on the first available means. But in the grand scheme if things that's not huge numbers. Multinationals will be risk and reputation adverse to sending business travelers across as Guinea pigs. Similarly many guys with means and ability to travel will be reluctant to travel until the situation has well and truly settled down. Sensationalist media reports won't help this. Then you have the 1000's of mongers who have lost overtime, income, jobs, small businesses etc and will be unable to travel.
I'm certainly keen to see things reopen but how quickly they return, I'm unsure.
Enjoy G.
It will be interesting to see if there will indeed be opening flood gates.
Many here talk up desperately waiting for the first available flight and there surely will be those that return on the first available means. But in the grand scheme if things that's not huge numbers. Multinationals will be risk and reputation adverse to sending business travelers across as Guinea pigs. Similarly many guys with means and ability to travel will be reluctant to travel until the situation has well and truly settled down. Sensationalist media reports won't help this. Then you have the 1000's of mongers who have lost overtime, income, jobs, small businesses etc and will be unable to travel.
I'm certainly keen to see things reopen but how quickly they return, I'm unsure.
Enjoy G.Of course without the hordes the locals are really enjoying traveling about their own country. Beaches and parks are much cleaner. And there just aren't the crowds. It's really much more pleasant and reminds me of what it was like in Thailand when I moved here 20 years ago. The era of mass tourism from heavily populated countries is good for the economy but not so much for the land. I am planning to do a lot of trips within Thailand over the next year. And I'm really looking forward to not having to battle the masses. Perhaps we have reached the end of mass tourism. With the possibility of many airlines going out of business, it won't be as cheap to fly. I really don't think this will discourage the mongers, we are a hardy and determined bunch. But those that want to come, see things quickly, take some Instagram photos, and go home, might not be as eager.
As far as P4 P is concerned, it might be that gal's learn to rely on locals again. Locals were actually preferred to tourists or frequent visitors when I first moved here. Gals wanted to have regulars they could count on. But we'll see the lay of the land come December when they realize there might not be a high season.
Mr Enternational
08-02-20, 02:18
As far as P4 P is concerned, it might be that gal's learn to rely on locals again. Locals were actually preferred to tourists or frequent visitors when I first moved here. Gals wanted to have regulars they could count on. Local locals or foreign locals? Because when I mentioned to a chick about going to find Thai customers she would not have such a thing. Why is that? That is one more reason in the feather of chicks doing this NOT because they have no other choice.
Local locals or foreign locals? Because when I mentioned to a chick about going to find Thai customers she would not have such a thing. Why is that? That is one more reason in the feather of chicks doing this NOT because they have no other choice.I was referring to foreign locals. Thai men don't really fish in the same ponds that we do.
I was referring to foreign locals. Thai men don't really fish in the same ponds that we do.Yes, when a Thai lady willing to fuck and suck me says, "No more Thai men," what she usually means is no Thai man capable of buying his own beer in 7-11 would touch her with a barge pole anymore.
Cue the personal anecdotes about fucking Thai ladies constantly being pestered by Thai doctors, lawyers and high ranking politicians for dates.
Yes, when a Thai lady willing to fuck and suck me says, "No more Thai men," what she usually means is no Thai man capable of buying his own beer in 7-11 would touch her with a barge pole anymore.It's pretty much universal around Asia that local men are stunned at the quality of the women that foreigners fly half way around the world and pay good money to fuckk.
Local guys regard dark skinned, illiterate, impoverished, single mothers as the absolute bottom of the barrel yet high end gogos are full of them.
I've always said that mongers rarely stray from the middle tier girls: too scared to venture down to the seedy end of town and not invited to the top end. 😁.
Enjoy. G.
It's pretty much universal around Asia that local men are stunned at the quality of the women that foreigners fly half way around the world and pay good money to fuckk.
Local guys regard dark skinned, illiterate, impoverished, single mothers as the absolute bottom of the barrel yet high end gogos are full of them.
I've always said that mongers rarely stray from the middle tier girls: too scared to venture down to the seedy end of town and not invited to the top end. 😁.
Enjoy. G.Lighter skin, well educated (I might quibble over that one), monied, higher status and so on are apparently attributes Thai men prize highly. Her having another man's baby is a big turn off. But whether or not those attributes in women make Thai men more or less interested in fucking them tonight is debatable.
From what I see walking around Thailand, Thai men do not choose mates based on many attributes we Farangs find more sexually attractive, skin color not usually ranking so high; well proportioned, fit and toned bodies, slim yet curvy. Or, if they do, they are having a hard time hooking up with ones like that over the age of 18.
And the sexual skills a once married (to a Thai man) non pro brings to the bed are usually abysmal to non existent. So we know Thai men are not choosing Thai women for bed partners on that basis.
We do cross over in our interest in youth and good health. But those are two universal attributes for sexual attractiveness anyway.
I just think it's odd that a comparison is made by Thai men between the kind of lady we all might want to marry and raise our children with the kind we want to (and are available to) fuck within an hour of meeting them and have them go away.
Moreover, if there was a red light destination filled with lighter skin, no baby, well educated, monied, higher status girls willing to fuck and suck Farang strangers within an hour of meeting them for no more than 2,000 - 3,000 baht and then go away I am pretty sure that place would be very popular with us bottom feeding Farangs who tend to head to Nana, Cowboy and Patpong for that kind of action.
Anyone know of such a go-go bar in Thailand?
It can sort of be done on the dating sites.
Franciscass
08-02-20, 06:18
Yes, when a Thai lady willing to fuck and suck me says, "No more Thai men," what she usually means is no Thai man capable of buying his own beer in 7-11 would touch her with a barge pole anymore.
Cue the personal anecdotes about fucking Thai ladies constantly being pestered by Thai doctors, lawyers and high ranking politicians for dates.There is a Thai on Thai scene not readily observable to outsiders living in the usual enclaves. It stretches from the small town karaoke bars to the world of the high end "mia noi's" with kapoo's and gentleman's clubs in between which while not all off limits to foreigners are mostly frequented by Thais. Even though some oilies will not take Thai customers and girls working the tourist / expat end of the business will often say they don't particularly like Thai men the reality is the Thai on Thai P4P scene is on a countrywide basis much bigger than one might imagine.
And the sexual skills a once married (to a Thai man) non pro brings to the bed are usually abysmal to non existent.....This is why I typically recoil in horror when a mama tries to palm off her latest new recruit to me as if she is some prized trophy that I should be glad to get first pick at.
It did make me laugh one night when I let my guard down, took a new girl and she was actually great, leaving me as an ink spot of sweat and bodily fluids at 4 am. Her first comment on coming out of the shower post coitus? "Was that ok?" 😁 Clearly she had no idea what westerners would (not) find entertaining but she sure put in the effort. 👍.
Enjoy. G.
SNIP
Is this the really fun girl we met at Pin Up and gave her a blue tongue? She used to work at Sapphire.
SNIP I don't think we ever went to Pin Up together. I think you may be referring to Khing and we were at Panda. Khing used to work Sapphire. I was with you and wanted to take her, but it was early. I told her another day. Next day I came back to Panda and she was never to be seen again. But Praew from Pin Up definitely worked Billboard. That's where I first barfined her. She was reviewed awhile back in the Bangkok thread. Anyways she is a spinner that starts off starfish, but as she keeps "going and accelerating", she gets all into 69. And I do mean literally and figuratively just like Tai-chi. But yeah, both got the blue tongue treatment from Monkeypaw.
It's pretty much universal around Asia that local men are stunned at the quality of the women that foreigners fly half way around the world and pay good money to fuckk.
Local guys regard dark skinned, illiterate, impoverished, single mothers as the absolute bottom of the barrel yet high end gogos are full of them.
I've always said that mongers rarely stray from the middle tier girls: too scared to venture down to the seedy end of town and not invited to the top end. 😁.
Enjoy. G.And the longer I'm here the more I find myself in agreement with them. I am just not attracted to the Isaan look in the least. Problem is you just can't find pretty white skin girls with good bodies who are absolutely filthy in bed. It's a unicorn.
Moreover, if there was a red light destination filled with lighter skin, no baby, well educated, monied, higher status girls willing to fuck and suck Farang strangers within an hour of meeting them for no more than 2,000 - 3,000 baht and then go away I am pretty sure that place would be very popular with us bottom feeding Farangs who tend to head to Nana, Cowboy and Patpong for that kind of action.
Anyone know of such a go-go bar in Thailand?
It can sort of be done on the dating sites.If you find it, sign me up, I'm there.
Additionally for a lot of Asian men there are girls you marry and then girls you just screw. The two fit in pretty different categories. I kind of tend to agree with that. There's absolutely no way I would want to live with some filthy Uber horny girl. I'd get bored. I like that for an hour once or twice a week, but to have it at home? No way there are many things that are more important for a long-term relationship. And when you're in Asia sex is definitely not on the top of the list. Asians know how to compartmentalize. They're smart. I've always felt comfortable compartmentalizing, but so many westerners seem to want to find their soulmate or everything in one person. I think that's absurd.
Banana Boi
08-03-20, 07:59
I don't think we ever went to Pin Up together. I think you may be referring to Khing and we were at Panda. Khing used to work Sapphire. I was with you and wanted to take her, but it was early. I told her another day. Next day I came back to Panda and she was never to be seen again. You are correct it was Panda. Yes she disappeared after the night we saw her. I only saw her once more at Panda. She came running over. The second she went on stage a Japanese guy grabbed her to be barfined. She apologized. Never saw her again after that. Really too bad I think she's a lot of fun with the right attitude.
I think the times we went to Pin Up it was way too crowded so we left.
Mr Enternational
08-03-20, 10:13
There is a Thai on Thai scene not readily observable to outsiders living in the usual enclaves. It stretches from the small town karaoke bars to the world of the high end "mia noi's"Recently I went on few dates with a chick that makes 100,000 baht / month working for the company that owns Grab. Since the Covid shit she is on hiatus. I told her she should try to be someone's mistress. She said some guy offered her 45,000 baht / month to be his mia noi (don't know when). I told her she should have taken that shit.
Danny Duck
08-03-20, 10:15
News. United Air ramping up service to Asia next month. They must know things we don't.
MeThinks Thailand will have to along with the crowd.
All open. They need the money.
There is a Thai on Thai scene not readily observable to outsiders living in the usual enclaves. It stretches from the small town karaoke bars to the world of the high end "mia noi's" with kapoo's and gentleman's clubs in between which while not all off limits to foreigners are mostly frequented by Thais. Even though some oilies will not take Thai customers and girls working the tourist / expat end of the business will often say they don't particularly like Thai men the reality is the Thai on Thai P4P scene is on a countrywide basis much bigger than one might imagine.This is 100 percent correct. It's actually larger than the foreigner scene since it's all over the country literally in every city and town, and usually with better looking women and lower prices.
Throughout Asia westerners are given the left overs and charged higher rates. You can't blame them. The sellers realized western guys will settle for anything, and will pay nearly anything for the privilege.
This is 100 percent correct. It's actually larger than the foreigner scene since it's all over the country literally in every city and town, and usually with better looking women and lower prices.
Throughout Asia westerners are given the left overs and charged higher rates. You can't blame them. The sellers realized western guys will settle for anything, and will pay nearly anything for the privilege.That's all spot on. And the way it's been for the two decades I've lived here.
This is 100 percent correct. It's actually larger than the foreigner scene since it's all over the country literally in every city and town, and usually with better looking women and lower prices.
Throughout Asia westerners are given the left overs and charged higher rates. You can't blame them. The sellers realized western guys will settle for anything, and will pay nearly anything for the privilege.The Thai scene is well over 90% of the sex industry in Thailand. Everyone knew that already didn't they? Prostitutes are everywhere in Thailand. Pattaya, Nana, Patong, TF and things like that are a tiny fraction of the overall scene but they're more visible.
LittleBigMan
08-03-20, 14:16
News. United Air ramping up service to Asia next month. They must know things we don't.
MeThinks Thailand will have to along with the crowd.
All open. They need the money.I'm all for opening but United has no flights into Thailand, they are Star Alliance ANA but ANA has been flying out of Thailand back to Japan, Eva is another Star Alliance but their Transit is still closed decision nothing to do with Thailand decision. United knows something?
The Devils Den on LK Metro has closed permanently and a new location will be opening next year.
Danny Duck
08-03-20, 19:01
I'm all for opening but United has no flights into Thailand, they are Star Alliance ANA but ANA has been flying out of Thailand back to Japan, Eva is another Star Alliance but their Transit is still closed decision nothing to do with Thailand decision. United knows something?I would like to think UAL knows more than we do. LOL.
Although UAL might not have known Hawaii might go into total lockdown mode just as they start ramping up.
HNL is major gateway to Asia do it matters people.
HI is going to be absolute Devastation.
Don't know if I should ditch Hawaii and shelter in Vegas.
Danny Duck
08-03-20, 19:12
I hear Japan Big Business get the best Girls Japan has to offer. No surprise there.
I would like to think UAL knows more than we do. LOL.
Although UAL might not have known Hawaii might go into total lockdown mode just as they start ramping up.
HNL is major gateway to Asia do it matters people.
HI is going to be absolute Devastation.
Don't know if I should ditch Hawaii and shelter in Vegas.Nothing to do in Hawaii. All bars closed by mayor last Sat. Most restaurants closed. Practically all the hotels are closed too. Once you land there, you will be put in quarantine and arrested if you leave your hotel room. Total Gestapo tactics and no messing around for quite a while. Go to Vegas, you can at least have a good meal.
Danny Duck
08-04-20, 06:36
Nothing to do in Hawaii. All bars closed by mayor last Sat. Most restaurants closed. Practically all the hotels are closed too. Once you land there, you will be put in quarantine and arrested if you leave your hotel room. Total Gestapo tactics and no messing around for quite a while. Go to Vegas, you can at least have a good meal.Yesterday Burger King South Berrtania near Thomas Square. Old lady employee told me to move on my 30 minutes were up. LOL.
I'm not a rebel I left. They do have a sign up.
Better than McDonalds, no seating inside any branch.
I want to try Wsop online poker. So looks like I'm headed East soon.
The Devils Den on LK Metro has closed permanently and a new location will be opening next year.To add to that, they still have girls available for outcall.
Mr Enternational
08-04-20, 09:28
To add to that, they still have girls available for outcall.I have girls available for outcall too. Tell me what you want. I go find chicks to match the description, double the amount they want so I can keep half, then I send them to your room.
Crocodilexp
08-04-20, 19:22
This is 100 percent correct. It's is actually larger than the foreigner scene since it's all over the country literally in every city and town, and usually with better looking women and lower prices.There's this recurring myth of an enormous Thai on Thai PFP scene with low prices and amazing women. Perhaps it was true once upon a time, but these days, for the most part it is bunk. Of course such a scene exists, but it's not all that amazing, large or cheap, and has been in a sharp decline in recent year (since the coup), more so than the Farang scene. So many places have been firmly closed and are forever gone, like two local areas in Udon Thani.
There's this recurring myth of an enormous Thai on Thai PFP scene with low prices and amazing women. Perhaps it was true once upon a time, but these days, for the most part it is bunk. Of course such a scene exists, but it's not all that amazing, large or cheap, and has been in a sharp decline in recent year (since the coup), more so than the Farang scene. So many places have been firmly closed and are forever gone, like two local areas in Udon Thani.If you have a look at FFF and other websites directed towards Thai men, then you will see gals that are way better looking than what you get in farang venues. And the prices are usually between 1500 and 2 k. So I'd say it's not a myth.
If you have a look at FFF and other websites directed towards Thai men, then you will see gals that are way better looking than what you get in farang venues. And the prices are usually between 1500 and 2 k. So I'd say it's not a myth.And farang can tap into these by using the shotgun approach by seeing if any of the gals will go with a Westerner.
Pretty spas are mostly for Thais, and a good source of nice looking Uni gals. There are two close to me that have been very welcoming.
And farang can tap into these by using the shotgun approach by seeing if any of the gals will go with a Westerner.
Pretty spas are mostly for Thais, and a good source of nice looking Uni gals. There are two close to me that have been very welcoming.Absolutely. Some are ok with farangs but some aren't. Speaking Thai is a plus.
Banana Boi
08-05-20, 18:06
Pretty spas are mostly for Thais, and a good source of nice looking Uni gals. There are two close to me that have been very welcoming.Can you name some of the spas that are mostly for Thais? I can speak Thai so I can get in to many places that other Farang are unable to get in to.
Absolutely. Some are ok with farangs but some aren't. Speaking Thai is a plus.
Yep. If you plan on being in Thailand often or for an extended period, learn to speak Thai. It impresses the sh1t out of girls and it's very funny listening to Thai girls bad mouth their Farang customers in Thai right in front of them. I had a ugly short haired girl at Palace say bad things about me in Thai thinking I didn't understand her. I yelled back at her in Thai and she ran away in shame. Also had a Soi 6 girl say stuff to me in Thai. Called over the manager and he chewed her out right in front of me. Also have girls talk in Thai saying I'm cute. I just sit back and smile not letting these girls know I understand them.
If you have a look at FFF and other websites directed towards Thai men, then you will see gals that are way better looking than what you get in farang venues. And the prices are usually between 1500 and 2 k. So I'd say it's not a myth.
Which sites are these?
Jimmy Boy 99
08-05-20, 20:29
If you have a look at FFF and other websites directed towards Thai men, then you will see gals that are way better looking than what you get in farang venues. And the prices are usually between 1500 and 2 k. So I'd say it's not a myth.Why would "gals that are way better looking than what you get in farang venues" work in Thai places for less money? Is it the language hassle or just not wanting to do farangs?
Which sites are these?That must be Fin Fan Fan. The other web site that I use is for Kapoo clubs but they are not cheaper.
Why would "gals that are way better looking than what you get in farang venues" work in Thai places for less money? Is it the language hassle or just not wanting to do farangs?
Not all girls want to work in bars. Some Thai places for wealthy locals are expensive.
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Not all girls want to work in bars. Some Thai places for wealthy locals are expensive.Not all girls get a choice. Debt bondage and repaying Dad's drugs / gambling debts feature highly.
G.
Banana Boi
08-06-20, 00:10
Why would "gals that are way better looking than what you get in farang venues" work in Thai places for less money? Is it the language hassle or just not wanting to do farangs?Many have very limited or near no English. These are the girls who just arrived in Pattaya. Others simply just don't like Farang, plain and simple.
Don't assume all Thai men are poor. Lots of dirty money floating around. You should see the alcohol that these Thai guys consume. It's often bottle service with multiple girls. I know many Farang who will milk a beer for an hour and refuse to buy lady drinks.
Danny Duck
08-06-20, 00:20
Can you name some of the spas that are mostly for Thais? I can speak Thai so I can get in to many places that other Farang are unable to get in to.
Yep. If you plan on being in Thailand often or for an extended period, learn to speak Thai. It impresses the sh1t out of girls and it's very funny listening to Thai girls bad mouth their Farang customers in Thai right in front of them. I had a ugly short haired girl at Palace say bad things about me in Thai thinking I didn't understand her. I yelled back at her in Thai and she ran away in shame. Also had a Soi 6 girl say stuff to me in Thai. Called over the manager and he chewed her out right in front of me. Also have girls talk in Thai saying I'm cute. I just sit back and smile not letting these girls know I understand them.I've been to a few Pretty Spas. Never ever once did I see a girl who would qualify as a top Rainbow girl.
Why would "gals that are way better looking than what you get in farang venues" work in Thai places for less money? Is it the language hassle or just not wanting to do farangs?Fin Fin is a freelance site. So, not a place. As other posters have stated, some feel more comfortable with Thai men and want to avoid the stigma of going with foreign guys.
Mr Enternational
08-06-20, 01:49
Don't assume all Thai men are poor. Lots of dirty money floating around. You should see the alcohol that these Thai guys consume.Alcohol? Shit I see all the Lamborghinis and Ferraris that roll through Pattaya from Bangkok on the weekends. And they cost twice as much in Thailand as they do in other places due to import taxes.
If you have a look at FFF and other websites directed towards Thai men, then you will see gals that are way better looking than what you get in farang venues. And the prices are usually between 1500 and 2 k. So I'd say it's not a myth.Every country has women who would never date or marry foreigners, including western countries. But the notion that the "girls are way better looking than what you get in farang venues" is not true.
Many of the women in those Thai catered places in Pattaya (disco called Bone), still work in go-gos catered to foreign men or tourists and still date and hook with foreign men or tourists. Money is still money. Go to Sensations or Whatsup ago-go, some are are beautiful Thai women (who look Chinese or Korean) that either charge premium, don't do bar fines, or women you will never ever see in insomnia or any foreign disco, but they still work in a foreign go-go venue.
You don't move to Pattaya from Udon Thani or Isaan to avoid foreigners, you move there to make money. And these "no date falang" women do work at foreign venues (go-gos). They just don't hangout at foreign venues (discos).
Banana Boi
08-06-20, 06:49
Alcohol? Shit I see all the Lamborghinis and Ferraris that roll through Pattaya from Bangkok on the weekends. And they cost twice as much in Thailand as they do in other places due to import taxes.Why I never bought a car in Thailand. Two years ago I wanted a simple BMW 3 Series but it was well over 3 million baht (100k+ USD). This wasn't even a M Series! Crazy. I heard import taxes have gone up even more since then. I was considering importing a used car from Hong Kong or Malaysia but Thailand nuked the ability for me to do that with a ban of importing cars. Car choices are very limited in Thailand. I can't even get most of the cars I would consider as a proper option. Sorry I'm just not a Camry or Civic type of guy.
Why would "gals that are way better looking than what you get in farang venues" work in Thai places for less money? Is it the language hassle or just not wanting to do farangs?What hassle? Even the ones who work in Pattaya for 10 years can barely put together a sentence in English.
The fact is most people in Thailand do not like foreigners. Especially farang ki nok.
Another is that many women who work with Thais make more money. Yes you've read that right.
It seems a lot of western people really have no idea what goes on outside of their holiday beach resorts. There is wealth in Southeast Asia that could make your head spin around on your shoulders.
Can you name some of the spas that are mostly for Thais? Which sites are these? I can speak Thai so I can get in to many places that other Farang are unable to get in to.If you can speak Thai you can easily find the spas and the model and sideliner websites. They're not hidden.
Yep. If you plan on being in Thailand often or for an extended period, learn to speak Thai. It impresses the sh1t out of girls and it's very funny listening to Thai girls bad mouth their Farang customers in Thai right in front of them. I had a ugly short haired girl at Palace say bad things about me in Thai thinking I didn't understand her. I yelled back at her in Thai and she ran away in shame. Also had a Soi 6 girl say stuff to me in Thai. Called over the manager and he chewed her out right in front of me. Also have girls talk in Thai saying I'm cute. I just sit back and smile not letting these girls know I understand them.You might also learn what Thai people think of foreigners if you listen closely enough.
You might also learn what Thai people think of foreigners if you listen closely enough.Be respectfull and behave well and they'll be respectfull with foreigners also.
When you see some foreigners collecting plastic bottles in garbage for years in Pattaya it doesn't surprise me when some Thais put most foreigners in the same category you stated in your earlier post: the falang ki nok.
Banana Boi
08-07-20, 00:06
If you can speak Thai you can easily find the spas and the model and sideliner websites. They're not hidden.It's not a matter of IF I can find other alternative sites rather I don't look. If someone posts a site on here I may check it out but I don't Google looking for other sites. There are many other English sites especially a very well known big one for Pattaya that I barely read and that site has way more real reviews and expats than this site which is mainly tourists who either never have been to Thailand and pretend to have been or go to Thailand once or twice a year and think they know it all.
Crocodilexp
08-07-20, 11:29
If you have a look at FFF and other websites directed towards Thai men, then you will see gals that are way better looking than what you get in farang venues. And the prices are usually between 1500 and 2 k. So I'd say it's not a myth.Honestly, I'm not seeing any amazing looking girls on FFF. Virtually ALL the pictures are heavily processed (apps make this easy these days), and in many you can't even see their faces. It's not entirely fair to compare them with sex workers we see in real life.
So far, I've taken 3-4 FFF girls, and they looked ok, but just on par with ThaiFriendly (or even a bit worse), not exactly the cream of the crop. The process is a bit too cumbersome for me, though, not really appealing. I don't care to throw out a bunch of messages and wait several hours to meet up with whoever would take me.
Honestly, I'm not seeing any amazing looking girls on FFF. Virtually ALL the pictures are heavily processed (apps make this easy these days), and in many you can't even see their faces. It's not entirely fair to compare them with sex workers we see in real life.
So far, I've taken 3-4 FFF girls, and they looked ok, but just on par with ThaiFriendly (or even a bit worse), not exactly the cream of the crop. The process is a bit too cumbersome for me, though, not really appealing. I don't care to throw out a bunch of messages and wait several hours to meet up with whoever would take me.When I visited Thailand in 2015 I spent most of my time in Nataree. For me they had a great number of young beautiful girls, more than any other establishment. Many of their customers were well off Thai and other Asians, I hardly saw farang when I went there.
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Mr Meeseeks.
I was in Pattaya yesterday and the beach was empty. It looked pristine.
Businesses gone everywhere; boarded up, shut down, for sale and rent, gutted out, entire blocks fenced off.
The odd foreigner wandering about, but it was like a ghost town.
The party is truly over for anyone involved in the tourism sector. And for the foreseeable.
If you are a foreigner with a business in tourism, you should have cut your losses and ran already.
Worse to come too, travelling to these areas will become more dangerous with more scams, gouging, crime rates will rise exponentially against foreigners, envy and jealousy of people with money will kick in and things will get nasty.
Those that were prudent and squirreled away money for a rainy day may get through this.
Spendthrifts and money-wasters that live hand to mouth are in trouble.
Master Monger
08-09-20, 21:02
Comment from thaivisa.
The party is truly over for anyone involved in the tourism sector. And for the foreseeable.
If you are a foreigner with a business in tourism, you should have cut your losses and ran already.
Worse to come too, travelling to these areas will become more dangerous with more scams, gouging, crime rates will rise exponentially against foreigners, envy and jealousy of people with money will kick in and things will get nasty.Our only solution is to sacrifice the 4 Billion people in the world who live hand to mouth and have no savings. It is totally worth them losing everything and committing suicide to protect 500 million people who are over the age of 65 and have a poor immune system and are at risk of dying a few months early from COVID-19.
I couldn't agree with you more, if you cut your finger, you should cut off your whole arm to stave off the infection. The dumbest thing we could do is let everything go back to normal and let survival of the fittest make its natural selection. That is just impossible! The much better solution is to let the 4 billion poor people on the planet just die. Let millions of small businesses go under so the whole world is controlled by large conglomerates.
Those elderly people are our Grandma's and Grandpa's we can't let them die a couple months early for the greater good. Although you shouldn't lose hope Berrys66 because a vaccine is coming for those of us who can afford it! We will be saved like the rapture! I mean people could just get off their lazy asses and stop stuffing their fat faces junk food and actually improve their health and immune systems, but that is way too much to ask. People would much rather wear a mask and wait patiently for their miracle vaccine.
If you are afraid to live, because you are afraid of dying, then you are already dead.
MM.
Our only solution is to sacrifice the 4 Billion people in the world who live hand to mouth and have no savings. It is totally worth them losing everything and committing suicide to protect 500 million people who are over the age of 65 and have a poor immune system and are at risk of dying a few months early from COVID-19.
.....The much better solution is to let the 4 billion poor people on the planet just die. Let millions of small businesses go under so the whole world is controlled by large conglomerates.
....People would much rather wear a mask and wait patiently for their miracle vaccine.
I hope it's ironic!
Crocodilexp
08-10-20, 14:01
When I visited Thailand in 2015 I spent most of my time in Nataree. For me they had a great number of young beautiful girls, more than any other establishment. Many of their customers were well off Thai and other Asians, I hardly saw farang when I went there.Yes, and unfortunately, Nataree has been raided and permanently closed for a few years now.
(Sorry for being off-topic on the Pattaya thread).
Yes, and unfortunately, Nataree has been raided and permanently closed for a few years now.............That is common knowledge.
There is no reason to doubt that there are other Nataree type clubs that farang don't know about with young luscious belles that cater to well to do Thais.
Crocodilexp
08-10-20, 22:56
Nataree type clubs that farang don't know aboutPerhaps tourists don't know about such places, but there are thousands of expats in Bangkok who speak passable Thai, some even have Thai friends and could easily discover such places if they were of any interest to them. "Nataree type clubs" are not exactly secret, and easily discoverable by anyone looking (for how else would they get customers, it's not a secret society type deal).
Sure, there are Thai-oriented places with prettier women than lower Sukumvit, such as The Lord or Maria Massage, but what they provide is generally way too overpriced for rather basic service (by Farang standards), and while ok, not all that stunningly impressive.
In addition, some of the girls at Nataree were from neighboring countries, and they are now banned from working, at the threat of closing the venue. Nataree was shut down to set an example that police is serious in enforcing this.
Thai-oriented PFP scene has declined as much, or even more, than the Farang-oriented scene. While there might be a handful of semi-private venues for wealthy Thais or Chinese (at the high end of the price range), there are no major undiscovered secrets at decent prices known or available only to Thais.
(again, apologies for being off-topic on the Pattaya thread, but I don't know how I'd move the conversation elsewhere)
Mr Enternational
08-11-20, 04:29
Thai-oriented PFP scene has declined as much, or even more, than the Farang-oriented scene. While there might be a handful of semi-private venues for wealthy Thais or Chinese (at the high end of the price range), there are no major undiscovered secrets at decent prices known or available only to Thais.Why do people always suspect there to be some holy grail or el dorado? And even if there is, then what? I know a place with literally tons of gold that you would not believe. It is called Fort Knox. You think I am just going to be able to stroll right in? Maybe someone can devise a plan to get us inside.
I would not blame Thais one bit if they did have a secret place. Mfs always want some shit that is off limits to them. It is the old give them a mile and they want to take a foot. Even if there was a room full of roses with a pile of dog shit in the corner, you could tell a mf to help themselves to all the roses they would like, but don't go near the dog shit. Where is the first place they would try to go to? The corner with the pile of dog shit. This is just human nature. They even have a story about it in the bible. Folks are gracious enough and let you into their land to partake and soon there is an effort to take the place over.
Perhaps tourists don't know about such places, but there are thousands of expats in Bangkok who speak passable Thai, some even have Thai friends and could easily discover such places if they were of any interest to them. "Nataree type clubs" are not exactly secret, and easily discoverable by anyone looking (for how else would they get customers, it's not a secret society type deal).
Sure, there are Thai-oriented places with prettier women than lower Sukumvit, such as The Lord or Maria Massage, but what they provide is generally way too overpriced for rather basic service (by Farang standards), and while ok, not all that stunningly impressive.
In addition, some of the girls at Nataree were from neighboring countries, and they are now banned from working, at the threat of closing the venue. Nataree was shut down to set an example that police is serious in enforcing this.
Thai-oriented PFP scene has declined as much, or even more, than the Farang-oriented scene. While there might be a handful of semi-private venues for wealthy Thais or Chinese (at the high end of the price range), there are no major undiscovered secrets at decent prices known or available only to Thais.
(again, apologies for being off-topic on the Pattaya thread, but I don't know how I'd move the conversation elsewhere)In my next visit to Thailand if I do not get to bang the equivalent quality of girls I got at Nataree in 2015 I would not return there. I can get really fine women in Latin America and SEA is too far to travel to for subpar girls. (Sorry for posting this response to an off-topic post on the Pattaya thread).
Member #4698
08-12-20, 12:32
There is a thread on the ISG set aside specifically for those that want to wage war and argue politics. The thread is called American Politics or something like that. I am too lazy to look it up. I call it the rubber room because I think you have to be crazy to want to go argue this crap but it is there just the same for those that want to avail themselves of it. The problem is that there are a couple of serial violators of forum rules who feel they must get their message out and it is not enough to keep it bottled up in the designated thread. Admin has repeatedly deleted or moved these offending political posts, but the perps keep posting and arguing their politics in inappropriate forums. It is ego mania. It is all about them. Nothing else matters. They can't help themselves.
There is a thread on the ISG set aside specifically for those that want to wage war and argue politics. The thread is called American Politics or something like that. I am too lazy to look it up. I call it the rubber room because I think you have to be crazy to want to go argue this crap but it is there just the same for those that want to avail themselves of it. The problem is that there are a couple of serial violators of forum rules who feel they must get their message out and it is not enough to keep it bottled up in the designated thread. Admin has repeatedly deleted or moved these offending political posts, but the perps keep posting and arguing their politics in inappropriate forums. It is ego mania. It is all about them. Nothing else matters. They can't help themselves.And why are you posting something here that is not about sex?
Is it all about you? Nothing else matters? Can't help yourself?
Banana Boi
08-12-20, 17:09
And why are you posting something here that is not about sex?
Is it all about you? Nothing else matters? Can't help yourself?Natty was responding to a post that I made that Admin has deleted saying guys should post about politics and war in the appropriate threads or political debate boards, especially when the political oriented post has NOTHING to do with Pattaya.
Natty was responding to a post that I made that Admin has deleted saying guys should post about politics and war in the appropriate threads or political debate boards, especially when the political oriented post has NOTHING to do with Pattaya.Yes, but I'm guessing the people and their posts Natty was criticizing were replying to something someone else posted as well.
We ALL do it for the reasons he cited, including you, me and him. It is just the nature of message boards.
Franciscass
08-13-20, 04:18
Yes, but I'm guessing the people and their posts Natty was criticizing were replying to something someone else posted as well.
We ALL do it for the reasons he cited, including you, me and him. It is just the nature of message boards.It gets quite silly when criticizing a criticizer who criticizes?
Mr Enternational
08-17-20, 14:47
Finally fucked a chick yesterday that I have been trying to get with a while. When I dropped her off this afternoon, I handed her the money. She looked down quickly and saw 100's. She got mad and said I told you 1000! I said okay. Give me that back and I will give you 1000. She handed it back to me and I gave her back the 1000 that was wrapped inside the 2 100's.
Crocodilexp
08-17-20, 16:06
In my next visit to Thailand if I do not get to bang the equivalent quality of girls I got at Nataree in 2015 I'm willing to bet you won't, the scene went down a few notches since 2015 in both Bangkok and Pattaya. Still, quality of girls is in the eye of the beholder, so I guess you'll have to try it yourself (and likely get disappointed), not take some random monger's word for it.
Comment from thaivisa.
Mr Meeseeks.
I was in Pattaya yesterday and the beach was empty. It looked pristine.
Businesses gone everywhere; boarded up, shut down, for sale and rent, gutted out, entire blocks fenced off.
The odd foreigner wandering about, but it was like a ghost town.
The party is truly over for anyone involved in the tourism sector. And for the foreseeable.
If you are a foreigner with a business in tourism, you should have cut your losses and ran already.
Worse to come too, travelling to these areas will become more dangerous with more scams, gouging, crime rates will rise exponentially against foreigners, envy and jealousy of people with money will kick in and things will get nasty.
Those that were prudent and squirreled away money for a rainy day may get through this.
Spendthrifts and money-wasters that live hand to mouth are in trouble.Plenty of bars packed. Pin-up standing room only. Windmill full from soon after 5 pm Crystal, Lady Love, Queen on L. K all raking the money in. 808, Ibar etc doing great guns. High end restaurants on the beach packed at weekends with the Bangkok crowd.
Quality of girls on soi 6 through the roof as some gogos still closed, very few customers there so easy pickings.
Brilliant here at the moment.
Mr Enternational
08-20-20, 20:04
Plenty of bars packed. Pin-up standing room only. Windmill full from soon after 5 pm Crystal, Lady Love, Queen on L. K all raking the money in. 808, Ibar etc doing great guns. High end restaurants on the beach packed at weekends with the Bangkok crowd.
Quality of girls on soi 6 through the roof as some gogos still closed, very few customers there so easy pickings.
Brilliant here at the moment.His post was spot on. For every bar that you named that has people, there are 50 that are empty or not even open. Tourism does not only include bars. A bunch of restaurants and other businesses are shuttered on Walking Street and all around town. Beach Road and Second Road are ghost towns except for evenings when people come out to exercise or weekends when Bangkok people come. (Some places are only opening on weekends.) Pattaya Bazaar: the few shops that are open inside are not making money. I went in at 5 pm yesterday and bought a shirt and it was the first 240 baht the lady had seen all day. And they close at 7.
Unfortunately a weekend crowd is not enough to sustain the expensive rents on Beach Road and Walking Street. Yes there are thousands of girls to fuck here, but like he said most tourist shit is belly up. The bowling alley at The Avenue has also closed. They had knocked down some buildings and part of a parking lot on Pattaya Klang in order to do the pop up food and drink stands. That shit lasted 2 weeks and now it is an empty space.
A lot of craftsmen have headed home too. I recently had some jewelry made. The lady told me it would take 2 weeks. Well it ended up taking 1 month. She did not know the factory that makes the molds was closed so they had to make everything by hand. Went to get something made of wood on Theprassit: nope. I guess the lady was the owner said the carpenter had gone home because there is no business. But you can fuck until you pass out.
His post was spot on. For every bar that you named that has people, there are 50 that are empty or not even open. Tourism does not only include bars. A bunch of restaurants and other businesses are shuttered on Walking Street and all around town. Beach Road and Second Road are ghost towns except for evenings when people come out to exercise or weekends when Bangkok people come. (Some places are only opening on weekends.) Pattaya Bazaar: the few shops that are open inside are not making money. I went in at 5 pm yesterday and bought a shirt and it was the first 240 baht the lady had seen all day. And they close at 7.
Unfortunately a weekend crowd is not enough to sustain the expensive rents on Beach Road and Walking Street. Yes there are thousands of girls to fuck here, but like he said most tourist shit is belly up. The bowling alley at The Avenue has also closed. They had knocked down some buildings and part of a parking lot on Pattaya Klang in order to do the pop up food and drink stands. That shit lasted 2 weeks and now it is an empty space.
A lot of craftsmen have headed home too. I recently had some jewelry made. The lady told me it would take 2 weeks. Well it ended up taking 1 month. She did not know the factory that makes the molds was closed so they had to make everything by hand. Went to get something made of wood on Theprassit: nope. I guess the lady was the owner said the carpenter had gone home because there is no business. But you can fuck until you pass out.There was talk about some sort of new development in the Avenue which would mimic Nana Plaza and provide some sort of competition to WS and LK. Original plan was for it to starting in April 2020. I have this funny feeling that may no longer be quite on the cards anymore.
Mr Enternational
08-24-20, 13:45
I knew something was strange. I keep meeting chicks on Tinder and they say they are in quarantine. But then when the quarantine is over they leave Pattaya. Talking to one chick now. She said she came from Oman. There were 8 buses that came to Pattaya for 2 quarantine hotels here. She is at the Beverly Hotel. Said she leaving on the 1st when she finish. She was surprised that I did not know.
A serious question about tourism in Pattaya -- other than the primary aspect this thread generally focuses on: What is there to do in Pattaya?
With references to the beaches, I have read a lot of reports that the beaches are not that nice, and the water in the bay is dirty (really not suitable for swimming). If a beach day or water sport is of interest, a day trip outside of town is more suitable.
As for tourist sites, there I've seen mention of the "Big Budda", the "Sanctuary of Truth", (etc) -- but these are more modern constructs vs antiquity.
I hope that a frequent visitor can provide some of the serious feedback I am seeking.
Thank you in advance.
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As for tourist sites, there I've seen mention of the "Big Budda", the "Sanctuary of Truth", (etc) -- but these are more modern constructs vs antiquity.
I hope that a frequent visitor can provide some of the serious feedback I am seeking.
Thank you in advance.You might spend an afternoon and evening at Pattaya Floating Market out on Sukhumvit Road. It isn't a real floating market as one would go to buy general grocery items. It is more of a floating market type theme park. But not a bad way to spend a couple of family friendly hours with a date just to break up the usual bar runs. Boat rides, zip line atraction, food, drink and shopping, lots of photo op areas the girls usual like.
Seems to me it used to be open into the night but now I see online that it closes at 6pm. Maybe not nearly enough new people (tourists) these days to keep it open longer.
Not far from there on the other side of Sukhumvit Road is an elephant ride attraction if you or your date is into it.
Banana Boi
08-25-20, 06:53
A serious question about tourism in Pattaya -- other than the primary aspect this thread generally focuses on: What is there to do in Pattaya?Not a whole heck of a lot which is why I can't see how Pattaya will survive without the sex industry. Out of all the tourist things the only one that impressed me was Sanctuary of Truth. Sure there are a couple of half decent shopping malls and markets but I don't know many people who will fly half way around the world for that. It was good there weren't many other things to do in Pattaya as that would only make them a distraction from the bars and girls. My usual day didn't start until 4 pm hitting Soi 6 or a G club, then gogo bars from 7:30 pm, then out to the Thai bars with some gogo girls at 3 am. No time to do anything else really.
Mr Enternational
08-25-20, 07:37
A serious question about tourism in Pattaya -- other than the primary aspect this thread generally focuses on: What is there to do in Pattaya?Contrary to others, to me there is a lot of things to do in Pattaya. These hundreds of double decker tour buses are not hauling old ass Chinese people around for them to go to bars. Before I travel I always look on Trip Advisor under things to do to see what there is to do in a place. https://www.tripadvisor.com/Attractions-g293919-Activities-Pattaya_Chonburi_Province.html.
You have water parks, markets, Silver Lake Vineyards, Tiger Zoo in Sri Racha, Coral Island, ladyboy show, tons of great restaurants, badminton. Whenever my friends or family members come here I always run out of time showing them around (and I am not talking about bars.) Shocker: I have never even been to the Santuary of Truth. And that is #1 on Trip Advisor list. I guess I have been cheating my visitors all these years.
With references to the beaches, I have read a lot of reports that the beaches are not that nice, and the water in the bay is dirty (really not suitable for swimming). If a beach day or water sport is of interest, a day trip outside of town is more suitable.For the good beaches you want to either take the boat 45 minutes (30 baht) and go to Coral Island (there are 5 beaches there) or drive to the Navy base in Sattahip. Many people like to spend a night on the island with a chick, but I prefer to come back at 5 pm on the next to last boat.
Mr Enternational
08-25-20, 10:15
Contrary to others, to me there is a lot of things to do in Pattaya. I forgot to mention the loads of fun we had racing go karts the other week ago.
There was talk about some sort of new development in the Avenue which would mimic Nana Plaza and provide some sort of competition to WS and LK. Original plan was for it to starting in April 2020. I have this funny feeling that may no longer be quite on the cards anymore.Yes, it was supposedly scheduled to open April first. There was no construction started before Covid. I think it was someone's poor attempt.
At an April Fools joke.
Danny Duck
08-27-20, 17:40
I forgot to mention the loads of fun we had racing go karts the other week ago.To me activities in Pattaya are very limited. Without agogo no reason to be there.
YMMV.
Mr Enternational
09-05-20, 09:34
Wake up and have a message from a chick that has her own salon. I have been trying to get with her for 1000 LT but she always has excuses. The other day when I offered 700 ST she was willing to come, but I was busy. She wants to fuck today. I said I do not know if I will be horny today. Then she starts sending me nekkit pics. I say you must be the one that is horny today.
Then I thought, wait a damn minute. Today is the 5th. Don't know why they always wait until the last minute to realize they need rent money. And when I called her out on it she just laughed and said I knew too much.
P.S. And why do they always unsend the pics like you have not already saved them as soon as they sent them?
To me activities in Pattaya are very limited. Without agogo no reason to be there.
YMMV.If you think Pattaya is limited, you'd really dislike Angeles City.
If you think Pattaya is limited, you'd really dislike Angeles City.Well Pattaya is very limited. Yes maybe. But I live there for 10 years, even if Pattaya is limited, even if I feel boring sometimes, I never feel boring to fuck sexy ladies everyday! I think I fuck BBFS maybe 60% of the girls in Soi 6/7/8 and Soi LK. I'm very nice guy with them, and when I don't find a new sexy lady, usually I call another girl I met in past by Line or Messenger or Whasapp and they always come back to me! And most of the time they call me when they don't work or when they need money! Sometimes they say me they didn't work and want I fuck them!
Last time a sexy working girl called me at 1 am from Soi 6 and told me she didn't get any customer! And I told her she can come my condo and I'll give her 1000 like always.
And it was a great night because 30 min after she called me again and asked me if she can come with her friend and drink with me and her because she loves my condo in Patt and my condo is big!
And I didn't know her girlfriend and she was fucking sexy, only 19 years old. And they arrived together I ask her if I can fuck them together bareback! And she told me OK but she wants more money and she had to pay her rent for her room.
And finally I fucked them together and I came inside their pussy! I paid 5000 for the 2 girls!
They slept with me all the night and wake up the next day very late.
I took my coffee alone the next day in morning around 10 am and they were still sleeping.
I went buy Thai food for them outside and when I came back 1 hour later they were still sleeping.
At 12 h they still wanted sleep. I decided to kiss again the nice 19 years old girl, I was fucking horny and I wanted to fuck her again and he friend was still sleeping in bed. I started to touch her little bit, to kiss her, and she told me "later darling, I want sleep! I told her I wanted fuck her because I was horny. And then I started lick her pussy and she liked that but she was still sleeping. But then I put my dick inside her in missionary and she let me fuck her and she was still sleeping. I just fucked her few minutes and came inside her pussy. She was OK! It was fucking great night!
Franciscass
09-06-20, 04:48
And then I started lick her pussy and she liked that but she was still sleeping. But then I put my dick inside her in missionary and she let me fuck her and she was still sleeping.Now that's what I call sleeping on the job.
Banana Boi
09-06-20, 06:55
I think I fuck BBFS maybe 60% of the girls in Soi 6/7/8 and Soi LK. I thought it was 90% BBFS?
Which bars on Soi 7 and Soi 8 still have girls?
I thought it was 90% BBFS?
Which bars on Soi 7 and Soi 8 still have girls?Right now, not a lot! But Soi 6 and Soi LK still work.
At 12 h they still wanted sleep. I decided to kiss again the nice 19 years old girl, I was fucking horny and I wanted to fuck her again and he friend was still sleeping in bed. I started to touch her little bit, to kiss her, and she told me "later darling, I want sleep! I told her I wanted fuck her because I was horny. And then I started lick her pussy and she liked that but she was still sleeping. But then I put my dick inside her in missionary and she let me fuck her and she was still sleeping. I just fucked her few minutes and came inside her pussy. She was OK! It was fucking great night!I saw that video too.
I think the title was "I fucked my girlfriend's friend when she was sleeping" or something like that, great video, I loved it.
I thought it was 90% BBFS?
Which bars on Soi 7 and Soi 8 still have girls?It sure was, 60% is a huge step down. I think that's a WG trying to get 2500 per session plus drinks, and lunch the next day while she has her way with the condo.
Houston Player
09-06-20, 13:46
I thought it was 90% BBFS?
Which bars on Soi 7 and Soi 8 still have girls?How do you misread this? He only fucked 60% of the girls but he fucked them all BBFS. Of course we all know he's full of shit.
HorseTrader
09-06-20, 15:00
I thought it was 90% BBFS?already
Which bars on Soi 7 and Soi 8 still have girls?He is saying that so far he has had BBFS with 60% of the girls on Soi 6, 7, 8, and LK. Still 40% to go.
I’m impressed!
Jimmy Boy 99
09-06-20, 19:37
He is saying that so far he has had BBFS with 60% of the girls on Soi 6, 7, 8, and LK. Still 40% to go.
Im impressed!I doubt anybody could, or more importantly, would want to, fuck 60% of the girls on Soi 6, 7, 8, and LK. Perhaps he wasn't clear enough and he really meant that 60% of the girls on Soi 6, 7, 8, and LK that he has fucked he fucked BBFS.
I doubt anybody could, or more importantly, would want to, fuck 60% of the girls on Soi 6, 7, 8, and LK. Perhaps he wasn't clear enough and he really meant that 60% of the girls on Soi 6, 7, 8, and LK that he has fucked he fucked BBFS.What I mean is I always but bareback. I don't like condoms and I'm very careful of the girls I choose. And what I want to say is the that 90% of the girls I fuck let me fuck them bareback! Most of them don't care or just ask more money. And now, after 10 years in Pattaya, I mean I think I fucked bareback about 60% of all the girls who work in Soi 6/7/8 Soi LK. In every bar there are some girls I fuck bareback.
MonkeyPaw28
09-07-20, 02:47
Dear friends,
I'm new here but old monkey in bitching. I want to be supportive and contribute to what people ask me about Brazil.
For now, I need to know: is 1000 baht enough to fuck a beautiful lady?
MonkeyPaw28
09-07-20, 02:49
What I mean is I always but bareback. I don't like condoms and I'm very careful of the girls I choose. And what I want to say is the that 90% of the girls I fuck let me fuck them bareback! Most of them don't care or just ask more money. And now, after 10 years in Pattaya, I mean I think I fucked bareback about 60% of all the girls who work in Soi 6/7/8 Soi LK. In every bar there are some girls I fuck bareback.Really, prostitutes in general fuck without latex.
Banana Boi
09-07-20, 05:09
For now, I need to know: is 1000 baht enough to fuck a beautiful lady?
Sure you can scour Beach Road for freelancers or go to a BJ bar like Bar La Poste or Telephone Booth and get everything for 1000 baht including your drink and barfine. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. But if you splurge and are willing to spend 1300 to 1400 baht including barfine total you can find many more girls at numerous BJ bars, G Clubs, over 1000 bar beers, Thai Friendly, freelancers, discos like Red Car, 808, and Marine, over 1000 massage places, Soi 6, etc. I know you won't be able to eat by spending the extra 300 or 400 baht but food is so overrated.
I'm very careful of the girls I choose. And what I want to say is the that 90% of the girls I fuck let me fuck them bareback! If you are "very careful" and have made arrangements with the girl that she indeed does BBFS then your number should be 100%, not 90%. 90% is a very poor batting average for being "very careful" imo.
I doubt anybody could, or more importantly, would want to, fuck 60% of the girls on Soi 6, 7, 8, and LK.
Soi 7 and Soi 8 have basically been ladyboy bars for about 3 years now. Maybe I'm wrong since I no longer walk through Soi 7 and 8. Maybe Gilolo can help us out by naming the Soi 7 and Soi 8 bars that even had girls pre-COVID so I know which bars to go to when I return.
What I mean is I always but bareback. I don't like condoms and I'm very careful of the girls I choose. And what I want to say is the that 90% of the girls I fuck let me fuck them bareback! Most of them don't care or just ask more money. And now, after 10 years in Pattaya, I mean I think I fucked bareback about 60% of all the girls who work in Soi 6/7/8 Soi LK. In every bar there are some girls I fuck bareback.I am an European, 55 years old man in good shape. Before Covid, I was visiting Thailand for business 2 - 3 times a year. Every day I was used to take a new nice, young girl from gogos, Thaifriendly etc. In Bangkok and in Pattaya. Just to check how much they were worrying about their health, many times I offered them some extra-money (up to 3000 baht) for bareback fucking and / or creampie. Well, during 5 - 6 years, the answer had only been "No way! So, I am a bit surprised that you can get this service so easily and frequently.
Mr Enternational
09-08-20, 02:50
Just to check how much they were worrying about their health, many times I offered them some extra-money (up to 3000 baht) for bareback fucking and / or creampie. Well, during 5 - 6 years, the answer had only been "No way! So, I am a bit surprised that you can get this service so easily and frequently.Unfortunately you are not checking anything with your extra money offers. My experience is the same as his (definitely at least 90%) and I pay 500 to 700 ST and 1000 LT, no extra, and I am not even actively seeking that; I am just going with the flow. Other posters state that they pay extra the same as you and get the desired results.
Sometimes instead of asking, just walk in like you own the place (or the pussy in this case) and see what happens. Like if the speed limit is posted as 55 you go into the police station and ask the chief if it would be alright for you to go 60 or 65. More than likely he is going to tell you the same "No Way" that those chicks have been telling you. But if you didn't ask and just did 60 or 65 anyway, then you would probably get away with it unless it was in a school zone. Some things are better left unplanned.
I am an European, 55 years old man in good shape. Before Covid, I was visiting Thailand for business 2 - 3 times a year. Every day I was used to take a new nice, young girl from gogos, Thaifriendly etc. In Bangkok and in Pattaya. Just to check how much they were worrying about their health, many times I offered them some extra-money (up to 3000 baht) for bareback fucking and / or creampie. Well, during 5 - 6 years, the answer had only been "No way! So, I am a bit surprised that you can get this service so easily and frequently.Just curious. What would you have done if they said Yes?
Unfortunately you are not checking anything with your extra money offers. My experience is the same as his (definitely at least 90%) and I pay 500 to 700 ST and 1000 LT, no extra, and I am not even actively seeking that; I am just going with the flow. Other posters state that they pay extra the same as you and get the desired results.
Sometimes instead of asking, just walk in like you own the place (or the pussy in this case) and see what happens. Like if the speed limit is posted as 55 you go into the police station and ask the chief if it would be alright for you to go 60 or 65. More than likely he is going to tell you the same "No Way" that those chicks have been telling you. But if you didn't ask and just did 60 or 65 anyway, then you would probably get away with it unless it was in a school zone. Some things are better left unplanned.If I got pulled over and ticketed 10% of the times I drove over 60-65 MPH, not only would my traffic fine and insurance costs be sky high but it would put such a damper on my driving experience I might just put the keys away and ride the bus. Checking my speed every few seconds just so I don't get my tenth ticket in so many months? Ugh.
And, bear in mind, for some of us we don't just get inconvenienced by getting pulled over and then we're allowed to proceed but at a slower speed. Our keys are confiscated and the car towed away, no more driving for so much as an inch further from right here where we got pulled over. Lol. If you get my drift in this analogy. Now, factor in that this event can occur closer to 20% of the times you exceed 60-65MPH.
It isn't as though I have to walk into a police station and ask someone else if I can exceed 60-65 MPH without any unpleasant surprises. I don't have to go anywhere. The ultimate arbiter is sitting right there next to me in the bar. Pretty easy to do. And many of them say, "Sure. Here's a pass receipt to go as fast as you damn well please. Don't even bother looking at the speedometer tonight."
For me, that makes for a much more pleasant driving experience for the rest of the night. Asking or requesting it isn't that big a deal. Worst case generally is this one says No, maybe another one, then the next 3 in a row say Yes.
Just curious. What would you have done if they said Yes?I would have refused. Two kinds of risk: getting HIV or other diseases and / or getting her pregnant (with some possible consequences). But I hate to finish in the condom, so most of the times I come in mouth and, with a little extra money, I make her gulp all my load.
I am an European, 55 years old man in good shape. Before Covid, I was visiting Thailand for business 2 - 3 times a year. Every day I was used to take a new nice, young girl from gogos, Thaifriendly etc. In Bangkok and in Pattaya. Just to check how much they were worrying about their health, many times I offered them some extra-money (up to 3000 baht) for bareback fucking and / or creampie. Well, during 5 - 6 years, the answer had only been "No way! So, I am a bit surprised that you can get this service so easily and frequently.I think you had been banging a higher quality (physically and mentally) of girl compared to what the bare backers are shagging. Physically, I'm really speculating here but mentally is a certainty as you stated the girls explained that they were concerned about their health.
I think you had been banging a higher quality (physically and mentally) of girl compared to what the bare backers are shagging. Physically, I'm really speculating here but mentally is a certainty as you stated the girls explained that they were concerned about their health.I can accept that someone could pull only from the very best lookers in a Thai bar or dating site and manage to get 100% "No" to BBFS+CIP from, say, 100 out of 100 sessions. It would be notable, but not impossible to believe.
Much easier to believe is that someone could gravitate toward pulling mostly from the marginally doable bottom half in those same bars or dating sites and count on easy sailing through "No discussion BBFS+CIP" sessions 90-100% of the time.
But how does one manage to pull only supposedly "mentally" stable Thai girls from bars and online with a 100% certainty that they will say "No" to BBFS+CIP at crunch time in the room for as much as an additional 3,000 baht?
GettingFedUp
09-08-20, 17:37
Dear friends,
I'm new here but old monkey in bitching. I want to be supportive and contribute to what people ask me about Brazil.
For now, I need to know: is 1000 baht enough to fuck a beautiful lady?Odd how a new contributor chooses a handle very similar to a regular contributor but uses a style of prose remarkably similar to another. Go figure. Will coincidences never cease?
Mr Enternational
09-08-20, 19:39
I would have refused.So what was the point. All you are going to do is tick someone off by offering a deal then going back on it if they accept. Like taking a basket full of shit to the register at Big C, then once they ring it all up you say you didn't want the stuff; you were just curious how much it all cost together.
Danny Duck
09-08-20, 20:44
My pal a Hi Level Asian just left Pattaya. Said the only girls available for sub 1,000 were Hella Ugly. Or Obese. Or needed major Dental work. Had multiple babies. Look like Yaba whites. Etc.
............But how does one manage to pull only supposedly "mentally" stable Thai girls from bars and online .............The same way one manages to pull the mentally unstable ones. If one selects only the highest quality one must be prepared to cover up.
Unfortunately you are not checking anything with your extra money offers.....Yes he is. He's checking the Easy Mark box who'se immediate reaction to wanting better service is to pay (a lot) more. No surprise that the session provided is below par: she will now be able to request mega bucks to provide what he wants.
Cheers. G.
The same way one manages to pull the mentally unstable ones. If one selects only the highest quality one must be prepared to cover up.Over my two decades of experience with Thai working girls, I have found that the vast majority will provide bareback sex. Now, that might not be on the first encounter. But for regular customers that they have an established rapport and relationship with, most will provide if that's what you are looking for. And yes that includes the fat ones, the old ones, the better looking ones, or as you would refer to them the higher quality ones.
Member #4698
09-09-20, 03:55
Over my two decades of experience with Thai working girls, I have found that the vast majority will provide bareback sex. Now, that might not be on the first encounter. But for regular customers that they have an established rapport and relationship with, most will provide if that's what you are looking for. And yes that includes the fat ones, the old ones, the better looking ones, or as you would refer to them the higher quality ones.This is my experience too.
The same way one manages to pull the mentally unstable ones. If one selects only the highest quality one must be prepared to cover up.The vast majority of working girls in Thailand have Thai BFs or at least Thai guys they are screwing. And you don't really think those Thai dudes are slipping on a bone bag before they are hitting it, do you? FFS, even most of the Palace "stars" are Isaan gals with surgeries, so many of them are supporting a "mangda. ".
The degreed office gals in BKK you'll meet in BKK will raw dog it first time as well. BB sex is extremely easy to get in LOS, from gals of all shapes, sizes, looks, and ages. And it always has been.
Franciscass
09-09-20, 09:02
So what was the point. All you are going to do is tick someone off by offering a deal then going back on it if they accept. Like taking a basket full of shit to the register at Big C, then once they ring it all up you say you didn't want the stuff; you were just curious how much it all cost together.I had a slighty different take on Freddy's post.
As I understood it he wasn't actually negotiating unprotected sex but researching as in.
Do you do no condom?
No.
If I paid you more would you do?
No.
If she answered yes then he would know that some girls will if offered more money. Doesn't mean he actually offered more money. I am assuming lots of the girls he had this conversation with were girls he was spending paid time with.
He mentioned that he was getting laid on a daily basis so I feel he wasn't here to piss off the girls and was just sharing his experiences which is what the forum is here for.
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The degreed office gals in BKK you'll meet in BKK will raw dog it first time as well. BB sex is extremely easy to get in LOS, from gals of all shapes, sizes, looks, and ages. And it always has been.The easiest agreements to go bareback with me have been from the better educated, more worldly experienced, more English fluent girls; corporate exectutives, teachers, nurses, doctors! The exact opposite of what is suggested here.
They are tbe ones who understand the real world extremely low if not virtually zero risk of acquiring HIV from a clearly heterosexual man with zero evidence of recent shared needle drug abuse. And what a recent HIV+STD (at least one or two others) blood check document tells them. Not the fear mongered boogieman tales about it meant to frighten the less educated and less observant.
I will be fucking a 27 year old nurse from Bumrungrad Hospital on Sukhumvit Soi 3 Saturday night and she agreed to fuck me bareback the first night we met about a year ago before I got the full question out of my mouth.
The easiest agreements to go bareback with me have been from the better educated, more worldly experienced, more English fluent girls; corporate exectutives, teachers, nurses, doctors! The exact opposite of what is suggested here.
They are tbe ones who understand the real world extremely low if not virtually zero risk of acquiring HIV from a clearly heterosexual man with zero evidence of recent shared needle drug abuse. And what a recent HIV+STD (at least one or two others) blood check document tells them. Not the fear mongered boogieman tales about it meant to frighten the less educated and less observant.
I will be fucking a 27 year old nurse from Bumrungrad Hospital on Sukhumvit Soi 3 Saturday night and she agreed to fuck me bareback the first night we met about a year ago before I got the full question out of my mouth.Agree 100%. I'm not sure it's because they really think that deeply about it as you stated above, but they are definitely more focused on having an enjoyable time themselves than most GoGo gals and MP girls.
The rawdoggers doth protest too much, methinks.
The rawdoggers doth protest too much, methinks.I rarely skin it dude. But I always see if I can. And I would say the vast majority of gals are perfectly willing to let me take the plunge unwrapped, especially after a long DATY session. It is at that point that I back off and wrap. But that being said, I have no animosity towards dudes who bareback all the time. If you wear a condom all the time, then you have no worries really. I'm just relating my experiences here as a two decade plus resident of BKK. El T is correct about regular gals.
Agree 100%. I'm not sure it's because they really think that deeply about it as you stated above, but they are definitely more focused on having an enjoyable time themselves than most GoGo gals and MP girls.There was no deep thinking about it with the three nurses and the doctor I got an almost immediate Yes agreement to go bareback from. One of them was a lovely, slim 50 year old lady, the oldest lady I have ever fucked, who I met on a dating site 4-5 years ago. She turned out to be, drum roll please, one of the head nurses in the HIV ward of one of the best hospitals in the center of Bangkok! Lol. We compared our most recent HIV test documents, a test she is required to take every few months for her job.
But that was just for the hell of it. She and the others, all much younger, didn't ask for or need to see my test document. Even if they had started out buying all the horror stories about someone's cousin's boyfriend's aunt knowing a lady with HIV who gave it to 6 customers on Soi Cowboy, the fact is none of those hospital workers had yet personally seen, met or heard a reliable report of a man fitting my profile acquiring HIV, coming in to their workplace to be treated for complications of HIV or anything of the kind in all the combined years they worked in the medical field.
The empirical evidence on the front lines is simply not going to terrify them about going bareback with someone who is not into receptive anal sex or does not have needle tracks on his body.
Now, the heavily tattooed, slutty behaving, dirty blonde, smoker girl who was crawling all over me, Deep French Kissing me in Random Go-Go Bar Nana Plaza like I was Leonardo DiCaprio but who said "No" to me barfining her on my terms because she was convinced not wearing a condom would give her Covid-19 that I wrote a report about a few weeks back is apparently one of those mentally stable quality girls who care about their health but might not have had the years' long science-based personal experience the medical professionals I have been fucking bareback have had. But I was more than happy to let her feelings about it prevail without the slightest argument from me and move on to the next girl, of course.
Franciscass
09-09-20, 16:49
The rawdoggers doth protest too much, methinks.Not really I know the same as the politicization around wearing a mask but there is a similarity in that it's responsibly covering up for health reasons. Similar to the mindset of the I'm not wearing a mask brigade it seems some self righteous members believe as freedom loving individuals it's their god given right to have unprotected sex and to hell with the consequences.
Dr Brian Jones
09-11-20, 22:01
I never feel boring to fuck sexy ladies everyday! I think I fuck BBFS maybe 60% of the girls in Soi 6/7/8 and Soi LK.Well, that's a lot of grand-mothers, Casanova.
Dr Brian Jones
09-11-20, 22:12
I never feel boring to fuck sexy ladies everyday! I think I fuck BBFS maybe 60% of the girls in Soi 6/7/8 and Soi LK.Well, that's a lot of grand-mothers, Casanova.
Not really I know the same as the politicization around wearing a mask but there is a similarity in that it's responsibly covering up for health reasons. Similar to the mindset of the I'm not wearing a mask brigade it seems some self righteous members believe as freedom loving individuals it's their god given right to have unprotected sex and to hell with the consequences.Personally I try never going bareback. From my experience there are times when I ran out of condoms so asked for BBBJ. The girls would immediately either offer bareback or position themselves for bareback. I would consider if it was my GF whom I have a monogamous relationship with, but there's no way I'm diving into a WG who has up to 10 different partners a week. You couldn't pay me enough for that.
Mr Enternational
09-12-20, 18:07
Shortly after noon I went to drop my girlfriend at work. On my way back I went down Soi Chaiyapoom. I passed by the Orange and Blue bars (I think they are part of the Night Wish Group). The chicks were hollering as usual. About 2 hours later I went out to exercise on my bicycle and passed by and the bars were closed.
I just sent a message to a chick I know that work there to ask her what happened. She said the bar owner didn't pay the rent to the building owner and there was a big argument. The building owner told them they had to get the fuck out. A lot of the girls lived on premises including the one I sent the message to. I asked her what happened to them. She said they had to get the fuck out. Some girls she think went to find work at other bars and she went to the beach with another chick to think about work. She said they were all shocked because there was no warning.
Banana Boi
09-12-20, 21:11
Shortly after noon I went to drop my girlfriend at work. On my way back I went down Soi Chaiyapoom. I passed by the Orange and Blue bars (I think they are part of the Night Wish Group). The chicks were hollering as usual. About 2 hours later I went out to exercise on my bicycle and passed by and the bars were closed.
I just sent a message to a chick I know that work there to ask her what happened. She said the bar owner didn't pay the rent to the building owner and there was a big argument. The building owner told them they had to get the fuck out. A lot of the girls lived on premises including the one I sent the message to. I asked her what happened to them. She said they had to get the fuck out. Some girls she think went to find work at other bars and she went to the beach with another chick to think about work. She said they were all shocked because there was no warning.I know the manager of the Orange and Blue bars on Soi 25. Not sure if he is the current manager. I used to hang out at these 2 bars because there was a cute girl there about 3 years ago. Only other cute girls I saw was when she dragged a non-pro friend to work there with her. She left to work in that lousy bar complex on Soi 2 of all places.
Your story is a sad one and will be the sign of the times until Thailand wakes up and starts allowing tourists back in, with a strict mandatory 14 day quarantine. Cambodia allows tourists in and, if you believe the numbers, there was no sudden COVID outbreak after tourists started coming.
MP sent me some photos of Saturday night in Pattaya. I couldn't believe how dead it was. Worst than I imagined. There is no way these bars will survive much longer.
Danny Duck
09-13-20, 00:05
I know the manager of the Orange and Blue bars on Soi 25. Not sure if he is the current manager. I used to hang out at these 2 bars because there was a cute girl there about 3 years ago. Only other cute girls I saw was when she dragged a non-pro friend to work there with her. She left to work in that lousy bar complex on Soi 2 of all places.
Your story is a sad one and will be the sign of the times until Thailand wakes up and starts allowing tourists back in, with a strict mandatory 14 day quarantine. Cambodia allows tourists in and, if you believe the numbers, there was no sudden COVID outbreak after tourists started coming.
MP sent me some photos of Saturday night in Pattaya. I couldn't believe how dead it was. Worst than I imagined. There is no way these bars will survive much longer.I guess Oct 1. 14 day Quarantine. 90 day visa. Ain't happening.
Dr Brian Jones
09-13-20, 08:42
There is no way these bars will survive much longer.We have to define here " these bars ", because the City of Pattaya itself is deeply suffering, being a tourists destination.
This is indeed an human and business tragedy in the making.
However, being on the ground, I frequent several quality restaurants, nightclubs, girls bars and sport bars. With a clear expats following, and posting aggressive and smart marketing strategies on a daily basis. That are full packed, several days of the week, and are more than breaking even.
I don't know about G-Clubs and Soapy massages.
I guess Oct 1. 14 day Quarantine. 90 day visa. Ain't happening.The 14 day Quarantine will continue until Thailand comes to a concensus that their economy is more important than Covid restrictions on entry. And while the visa amnesty is coming to an end, mmigration might turn out to be very flexible on granting visa extensions.
LittleBigMan
09-13-20, 09:03
I guess Oct 1. 14 day Quarantine. 90 day visa. Ain't happening.This is another day and another hair brain idea that goes nowhere. I read so many reports daily and can't remember the article but it had to do their economy dying, businesses can't survive for long when they close it will be forever! This time the 90 days once in allows you two more extension at 2000 baht a pop that gives you something like 270 days in total the problem it was just an idea with just noting 14 quarantine there was no mention if they were going to remove all the other conditions to get to the quarantine phrase since the idea there hasn't been any word although there was mentioned a BIG meeting to happen this coming week?
I was just talking to another ex-pat this morning over coffee as they are hurting for tourist they are ending the amnesty 26 Sept when they haven't opened up Thailand so now they are forcing how many out that have been here for months spending money isn't something better than nothing guys like Mr. E, Monkey Paw are here contributing to the economy along with hundred or Thousands and now they want them out. The logic would be as long as no one is coming in just drag it until the end of the year no question ask.
Another topic if true, I heard the Thais that are being repatriated back to Thai do not need to go through the same hoops as other foreigners? For example, Thais are given VIP rights to obtaining a seat on flights they do not require insurance and maybe even no testing within 72 hours but like everyone must be quarantined. Each of these flights you always find people that test positive after which even if you go through all the hoops you might be sitting next to someone who hasn't how do Thailand leaders think just because you are Thai and you are abroad in countries that have outbreaks being given a different standard than they have zero or fewer chances of getting it? Then you got the majority of the positive test from passengers from the MiddleEast, if Thailand is rank something like 95 for corruption can you imagine how easy it would be for countries with worse records to obtain a COE.
It would be a shock if it opens deep down the surface it is a mess no light at the end of the tunnel? I would love to see Land of Smile but each night and each moring I wake up I say different day same shit!
LittleBigMan
09-13-20, 09:48
Last Thursday even prior to getting into the dog house I had to make a visit to Golden Times to do a favor for my cousin.
I've been to G. T. Prior to the Virus closing things down. G. T. Is located near Soi 15, the Soi lead to the back of the Avenue, this location is also known just off Soi Baukhao locates a number of Gentlemen Clubs, 555, Naughty, Buka Lounge, so when it opened people thought it to be in line with one but it turns out to be more of a GoGo, so the majority of the comments were negative since all you got to do is walk out and hit one of the others get yourself satisfied for much less. Pre-COVID the owners would throw a bunch of promotion like bring in models from Bangkok for that one-night promotion the next day they were all gone you can see these ladies on their FB but you won't find them there daily nor are you going to get them cheap even when they are there. Never found the quality to be much after these promotions so when I saw their second grand opening Aug 29th I said why to bother.
So I was wondering why my cousin lady friend was working there when she could easily work at Pin-Up? As I started to walk in the first person I met was the former male manager for Bacarra he greets and walks me into and gets me a prime viewing location. There were maybe 5 customers inside while waiting for my drinks I noticed on stage the quality was much better I also felt some staring which meant Asian soon some unwanted introduction. I refused a few offers because I wanted to check the stage while looking for my cousin lady. After a while, a girl comes rushing up next to the seat next to me I turn and it was another girl who I've known for years from Bacarra, next thing I know more came by to say Sawasdee Ka including the head mamasan from Baccara, my cousin lady happens to not work that night so for old times I brought drinks for old time sake and stuck around to catch up with their lives.
I try hard never to venture to places on the Darkside I'm even careful at the GoGo because you never know who someone working might be my local Thai neighbor, but one of the girls who knew one from Bacarra turn and spoke Thai which I understood a majority while they were talking " does this guy live? " she indicates she has seen me before with makeup it was hard for me to tell if I had seen her in my village or even a customer at my wife store and restaurant? I'm thinking I'm screwed because Thais love to talk so it is nothing but hands-off at this place. I rack my brain for a few days trying to figure out where I seen her the closest I came was April this year she came for a party for my granddaughter's 2nd Birthday that is might be related or friends of my Daughter-Inlaw family which I don't like or trust. Nevertheless, from what I saw many of the girls are from Bacarra maybe 30% rumor Bacarra only might open in a month to test the waters. BUMMER!
For all you gents who are brave enough to go bb with a working girl, do you use any preventative medicine, I. E. Pre-exposure prophylaxis? I've searched CDC and various medical authorities, and risk of catching HIV to a heterosexual male having vaginal sex is marginal, but the consequence of catching it is severe. PrEP would mitigate that risk a lot, but just curious if people here go that far. Also, besides HIV, the other common STDs are more easily caught, even when the girls don't have symptoms. Do you go to a clinic to take care of it, or just get the usual doxycycline + azithromycin for syphilis, chlamydia, and gonorrhea?
Mr Enternational
09-13-20, 15:20
Last Thursday even prior to getting into the dog house I had to make a visit to Golden Times to do a favor for my cousin.Geezus. My buddy had me tag along with him to Golden Times last week. That place had some nice chicks. Ever since, I pass by there with my tongue hanging out.
Passed by Blue and Orange bars again today and the Blue side is open again.
I met a chick on Tinder back in March. Never met her in person. Laat night I sent her a random message. She just happened to be in Pattaya. She lives in Korat and does some document work at an office there. She drives 5 hours to Pattaya some weekends to make extra cash. She came over this afternoon for 700 baht. This was probably the best GFE that I have had in my life. She was so sweet. She showed up the same time as the Lazada man. When we got to the room I sat down to open my package, at which time she knelt down and took my package out and started sucking on it.
The rest was a textbook fucking like rabbits session. She had to get on the road because she can not see when it gets dark. I have glasses for the same reason, but she said that she can not afford any. I handed her 1000 baht. She looked at it and said it is supposed to be 700. I said okay. The I took out the 700 I had set aside earlier. I asked her if she wanted to change. She said to send her a message and she could come back next weekend if I want. But for now she had to make sure she is on time for work tomorrow. Buddha Blessings.
Danny Duck
09-13-20, 18:03
C29. Has basically become a non issue in USA.
I take it it isn't Polling well for Biden.
Virus still around but so is the FLU.
Las Vegas where I'm sheltering is quite busy on weekends.
Thailand is BATShyte crazy.
Traffic deaths over 20,000 c19! Dead 58.
JohnReter335
09-13-20, 22:03
C29. Has basically become a non issue in USA.
I take it it isn't Polling well for Biden.
Virus still around but so is the FLU.
Las Vegas where I'm sheltering is quite busy on weekends.
Thailand is BATShyte crazy.
Traffic deaths over 20,000 c19! Dead 58.What is the real matter than?
C29. Has basically become a non issue in USA.
Fantastic argument. 194 000 dead and still promoting not wearing mask. How stupid can some poeple be?
ErsatzJulian
09-14-20, 05:46
C29. Has basically become a non issue in USA.
I take it it isn't Polling well for Biden.
Virus still around but so is the FLU.
Las Vegas where I'm sheltering is quite busy on weekends.
Thailand is BATShyte crazy.
Traffic deaths over 20,000 c19! Dead 58.Covid death's are 58 because everything they did. If left unchecked, you are most likely looking at least 600 K. So, what's your logic: because everyone acted, it is not a problem so therefore everyone don't really need to act?
Fantastic argument. 194 000 dead and still promoting not wearing mask. How stupid can some poeple be?LOL, yeah it is a non issue in the US. When will it be an issue, when it hits 1 million.
Please share US stats.
200 k for c19 and how many traffic deaths?
But we must wear seatbelts or get fined but nothing for the c19 non issue?
What happened to education in the US in the past decade, same Thai mentality that so many are complaining about here.
Or are we getting trolled, hard to tell.
For all you gents who are brave enough to go bb with a working girl, do you use any preventative medicine, I. E. Pre-exposure prophylaxis? I've searched CDC and various medical authorities, and risk of catching HIV to a heterosexual male having vaginal sex is marginal, but the consequence of catching it is severe. PrEP would mitigate that risk a lot, but just curious if people here go that far. Also, besides HIV, the other common STDs are more easily caught, even when the girls don't have symptoms. Do you go to a clinic to take care of it, or just get the usual doxycycline + azithromycin for syphilis, chlamydia, and gonorrhea?Haven't you been reading the threads? There are posters who say they do not get STDs from bareback sex with pros in Thailand. Those posts are for the consumption of fools who would go to Thailand and have bareback sex with prostitutes. Of course the posters would be secretly laughing at the prospect.
Danny Duck
09-14-20, 18:54
Haven't you been reading the threads? There are posters who say they do not get STDs from bareback sex with pros in Thailand. Those posts are for the consumption of fools who would go to Thailand and have bareback sex with prostitutes. Of course the posters would be secretly laughing at the prospect.Thai girls just want to have fun. LOL.
For all you gents who are brave enough to go bb with a working girl, do you use any preventative medicine, I. E. Pre-exposure prophylaxis? I've searched CDC and various medical authorities, and risk of catching HIV to a heterosexual male having vaginal sex is marginal, but the consequence of catching it is severe. PrEP would mitigate that risk a lot, but just curious if people here go that far. Also, besides HIV, the other common STDs are more easily caught, even when the girls don't have symptoms. Do you go to a clinic to take care of it, or just get the usual doxycycline + azithromycin for syphilis, chlamydia, and gonorrhea?I have never taken PrEP but I do see signs up in the Thai Red Cross Anonymous Clinic were I get my routine HIV/Syphillis tests touting "Free PrEP. Ask Us How" or something like that. I have read mixed reports about the benefits vs downsides of PrEP.
You are sent to a private office at that clinic to receive your test document from a medical counselor and chat a bit about whatever. The counselor then asks a series of questions for which I always give 100% truthful answers like when was the last time I had intercourse (usually yesterday or the day before), do I have a regular girlfriend (sort of), do I have sex with many different women (yes), do I use condoms (no), why am I getting tested (Out of courtesy really. Just to have a negative/normal test result document to show someone who wants to see it), etc.
So far, after going there for a test every 2-3 months for more than seven years, not once has a counselor mentioned or recommended my taking PrEP.
For whatever that is worth.
Banana Boi
09-15-20, 08:47
For all you gents who are brave enough to go bb with a working girl, do you use any preventative medicine, I. E. Pre-exposure prophylaxis? I've searched CDC and various medical authorities, and risk of catching HIV to a heterosexual male having vaginal sex is marginal, but the consequence of catching it is severe. PrEP would mitigate that risk a lot, but just curious if people here go that far. Also, besides HIV, the other common STDs are more easily caught, even when the girls don't have symptoms. Do you go to a clinic to take care of it, or just get the usual doxycycline + azithromycin for syphilis, chlamydia, and gonorrhea?Why is this query in the Pattaya forum?
Please RTFF as this topic has been covered 100's of times just like discussing condoms, Viagra, political views, war, etc.
Danny Duck
09-15-20, 15:33
About soi six. Say you have 1,000 girls working. How many of them get Barfined?
50?
Pre covid I never saw a ton of customers.
Dr Brian Jones
09-16-20, 10:41
About soi six. Say you have 1,000 girls working. How many of them get Barfined?
50?
Pre covid I never saw a ton of customers.Danny,
How can you get so low numbers!
Remember = 60% of ALL girls on Soi 6 + 7 + 8 + LK. With the Pattaya high turnover rate must be up to 5,000 -10,000 different girls annually. Are BBFS by our trustworthy member Gilolo. Not counting his regular weekly ones on these same Soi, and the other 10% which he reports were taken but finally not BBFS.
Statistically, he is supporting about 50% of your numbers, just by himself.
LittleBigMan
09-16-20, 14:23
About soi six. Say you have 1,000 girls working. How many of them get Barfined?
50?
Pre covid I never saw a ton of customers.I don't know about your numbers whether it is right or not but I always say even if I had the money I would never waste the time in throwing money into such a business I'm just glad there are guys willing to do it so I can enjoy the fun. Whether it is a GoGo or Soi 6, that is their problem just enjoy there are people out there willing to go through the headache to provide you with a choice!
Danny Duck
09-16-20, 21:05
I don't know about your numbers whether it is right or not but I always say even if I had the money I would never waste the time in throwing money into such a business I'm just glad there are guys willing to do it so I can enjoy the fun. Whether it is a GoGo or Soi 6, that is their problem just enjoy there are people out there willing to go through the headache to provide you with a choice!I pulled the numbers out of my Hairy Butt. LOL.
Just wonder how businesses stay in business with a cash register that doesn't ring.
Why is this query in the Pattaya forum?
Please RTFF as this topic has been covered 100's of times just like discussing condoms, Viagra, political views, war, etc.Oh, well I'm sorry I'm talking about something else besides bar closures, when are tourists allowed back in PI, my balls are so blue, or covid vaccines. There isn't a lot of strictly trip reports from Pattaya lately, as I'm sure you can imagine why, and there was a whole series of posts further back that talked about barebacking.
I have never taken PrEP but I do see signs up in the Thai Red Cross Anonymous Clinic were I get my routine HIV/Syphillis tests touting "Free PrEP. Ask Us How" or something like that. I have read mixed reports about the benefits vs downsides of PrEP.
You are sent to a private office at that clinic to receive your test document from a medical counselor and chat a bit about whatever. The counselor then asks a series of questions for which I always give 100% truthful answers like when was the last time I had intercourse (usually yesterday or the day before), do I have a regular girlfriend (sort of), do I have sex with many different women (yes), do I use condoms (no), why am I getting tested (Out of courtesy really. Just to have a negative/normal test result document to show someone who wants to see it), etc.
So far, after going there for a test every 2-3 months for more than seven years, not once has a counselor mentioned or recommended my taking PrEP.
For whatever that is worth.Wow thanks for sharing your experience. Are you concerned about the rise of more antibiotic-resistant strains of STD that is a pain in the ass to treat?
Wow thanks for sharing your experience. Are you concerned about the rise of more antibiotic-resistant strains of STD that is a pain in the ass to treat?Only enough to pay as close attention to the stirrings, aches, pains, discharges or lack thereof of my package and that of my girls as I have always done, as well as getting a thorough check up every year or so and those routine blood checks.
Dr Brian Jones
09-17-20, 21:24
as well as getting a thorough check up every year or so and those routine blood checks.Carrying a blood test in the wallet for the girls to see, is obviously a practice highly uncommon in Pattaya.
But following your journey through your writing for months, my understanding was that the tests were taken more frequently.
Any added value at all with this singular BB persuasion strategy with showing a test when it has been taken almost a year ago?
Carrying a blood test in the wallet for the girls to see, is obviously a practice highly uncommon in Pattaya.
But following your journey through your writing for months, my understanding was that the tests were taken more frequently.
Any added value at all with this singular BB persuasion strategy with showing a test when it has been taken almost a year ago?I meant that I get a more thorough full body and fluids medical check up every year or so. I get the routine blood test for HIV/STD at Thai Red Cross every 2-3 months. The document I have in my wallet now is only about 7 weeks old.
I meant that I get a more thorough full body and fluids medical check up every year or so. I get the routine blood test for HIV/STD at Thai Red Cross every 2-3 months. The document I have in my wallet now is only about 7 weeks old.So you're probably spreading chlamydia, gonorrhea and all sorts of other infections that don't appear in the blood test. You're definitely not as responsible as you're making yourself out to be.
So you're probably spreading chlamydia, gonorrhea and all sorts of other infections that don't appear in the blood test. You're definitely not as responsible as you're making yourself out to be.Anything is possible. Those who are concerned about it can always wear a condom or drop the mongering hobby altogether and they'll be fine.
Anything is possible. Those who are concerned about it can always wear a condom or drop the mongering hobby altigether and they'll be fine.My thoughts exactly. Pop one on if you're worried.
My thoughts exactly. Pop one on if you're worried.I do "pop one on" so I'm not worried for myself but I don't think people should pretend they're being socially responsible when they're actually spreading STIs. It's better to be honest and say "yeah I'm spreading the clap around but so what it's not to anyone who hasn't consented". And if a punter is trying to convince an uneducated woman that there's little to no risk when there is in fact an extremely high risk that he's going to infect her with gonorrhea or chlamydia then I would call that pretty unpleasant conduct.
Cantaloupe
09-18-20, 17:09
My thoughts exactly. Pop one on if you're worried.Way back getting the clap was a rite of passage for young expat bankers in SE Asia. Then antibiotics worked. Now it is by no means certain that they will work.
Caveat.
I do "pop one on" so I'm not worried for myself but I don't think people should pretend they're being socially responsible when they're actually spreading STIs. It's better to be honest and say "yeah I'm spreading the clap around but so what it's not to anyone who hasn't consented". And if a punter is trying to convince an uneducated woman that there's little to no risk when there is in fact an extremely high risk that he's going to infect her with gonorrhea or chlamydia then I would call that pretty unpleasant conduct.I'm pretty much 100% condom, but I don't really condemn the barebackers. Now if a person is being dishonest and stealthing women, then that is of course not ok, but consensual, then up to them.
Mr Enternational
09-18-20, 18:00
And if a punter is trying to convince an uneducated woman that there's little to no risk when there is in fact an extremely high risk that he's going to infect her with gonorrhea or chlamydiaNot sure why you assume the punter has the disease. Maybe the chick has the disease. Maybe neither party has the disease. But what about the educated ones that ET said need no convincing? Any excuses or white kniting for them? From my experience nobody needs any arm twisting; educated, uneducated, first world, third world. HUMAN BEINGS tend to fuck without protection. There would not be so many bastards on this planet if that was not the case. I have a 24 year old kid in the first world to prove it. Oh, and my parents have me to prove it as well. Almost forgot about the shit ton of cousins and nephews and niece and 2 grandkids to prove it.
Next up: Cover the food so flies won't get on it.
Franciscass
09-19-20, 02:43
Not sure why you assume the punter has the disease. Maybe the chick has the disease. Maybe neither party has the disease. But what about the educated ones that ET said need no convincing? Any excuses or white kniting for them? From my experience nobody needs any arm twisting; educated, uneducated, first world, third world. HUMAN BEINGS tend to fuck without protection. There would not be so many bastards on this planet if that was not the case. I have a 24 year old kid in the first world to prove it. Oh, and my parents have me to prove it as well. Almost forgot about the shit ton of cousins and nephews and niece and 2 grandkids to prove it.
Next up: Cover the food so flies won't get on it.Not sure which noodle stand you eat at Mt E but at mine they cover the food to prevent the flies getting at it. I heard a good quote once about flies and hygiene, if they are around food, your eating what they ate yesterday. And yes those uneducated off the farm WG (your definition) are easily persuaded to go bareback not fully appreciating the risks involved.
I do "pop one on" so I'm not worried for myself but I don't think people should pretend they're being socially responsible when they're actually spreading STIs. It's better to be honest and say "yeah I'm spreading the clap around but so what it's not to anyone who hasn't consented". And if a punter is trying to convince an uneducated woman that there's little to no risk when there is in fact an extremely high risk that he's going to infect her with gonorrhea or chlamydia then I would call that pretty unpleasant conduct.Right now everyone who breathes and violates the 2 metre recommended social distance knowingly risks spreading a disease that appears to be far more infections and deadly than your run-of-the-mill STI.
So I am sure you are doing the pleasant, socially responsible thing for the sake of everyone, educated or not, by staying indoors alone and having your delivered food dropped off outside, right?
Banana Boi
09-19-20, 05:19
Geezus. My buddy had me tag along with him to Golden Times last week. That place had some nice chicks. Ever since, I pass by there with my tongue hanging out.
Nevertheless, from what I saw many of the girls are from Bacarra maybe 30% rumor Bacarra only might open in a month to test the waters. BUMMER!MP messaged me and confirmed the Golden Time on Soi 15 near Soi Buakhao is indeed Baccara for the time being. Seems like the current hot spot while Baccara is temporarily closed. MP can share the details if he wishes. Would love to have a successful gogo bar in that area.
Does GT count as a LK metro gogo bar for Gilololipop to bang 80 (or is it 60 or 100%) of the Baccara girls BBFS?
Right now everyone who breathes and violates the 2 metre recommended social distance knowingly risks spreading a disease that appears to be far more infections and deadly than your run-of-the-mill STI.
So I am sure you are doing the pleasant, socially responsible thing for the sake of everyone, educated or not, by staying indoors alone and having your delivered food dropped off outside, right?Your mental struggles are hilarious. To follow your bizarre logic, if I have a Covid-19 test from 11 months ago, this proves that I don't have Covid-19 now. The image I have of you sitting in your underpants with one old medical certificate in each hand trying to convince a girl that this proves it's safe to bareback is comical.
Anyway, you made exactly the same point about Covid-19 months ago which I replied to back then and you didn't have an argument against so I don't know why you're repeating it now. Maybe your memory is failing?
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?2186-Pattaya-Reports&p=2458720&viewfull=1#post2458720
Your mental struggles are hilarious. To follow your bizarre logic, if I have a Covid-19 test from 11 months ago, this proves that I don't have Covid-19 now. The image I have of you sitting in your underpants with one old medical certificate in each hand trying to convince a girl that this proves it's safe to bareback is comical.
Anyway, you made exactly the same point about Covid-19 months ago which I replied to back then and you didn't have an argument against so I don't know why you're repeating it now. Maybe your memory is failing?
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?2186-Pattaya-Reports&p=2458720&viewfull=1#post2458720Thanks for reminding me I was right about it months ago as well.
For those who haven't kept up, taking a Covid-19 test 11 months ago or yesterday tells you very little about whether or not you are putting the person you sit next to in a bar at risk of acquiring it. You could be a carrier or have gotten it from the person you sat next to you on the skytrain ride from the testing clinic to the bar.
Best to remain alone in your room eating Grab delivered food for the foreseeable future. If you really are concerned about the health of others and pride yourself in putting no one at serious health risk and always engaging in pleasant, responsible social conduct, that is.
Mr Enternational
09-19-20, 07:40
MP messaged me and confirmed the Golden Time on Soi 15 near Soi Buakhao is indeed Baccara for the time being. Seems like the current hot spot while Baccara is temporarily closed. MP can share the details if he wishes. Would love to have a successful gogo bar in that area.
But my friends say it is a gogo/gentlemens club. They have rooms there. Barfine/room is 500 and girls 1000?.
Unless you have a co-morbidity, Covid-19 is extremely low risk and comparable to catching flu or a cold for most people so I don't think that comparison holds any water. Plus there have been no reported local transmissions for weeks so you're certainly more likely to die of lightning strike than Covid-19 in Thailand right now.
Thanks for reminding me I was right about it months ago as well.
For those who haven't kept up, taking a Covid-19 test 11 months ago or yesterday tells you very little about whether or not you are putting the person you sit next to in a bar at risk of acquiring it. You could be a carrier or have gotten it from the person you sat next to you on the skytrain ride from the testing clinic to the bar.
Best to remain alone in your room eating Grab delivered food for the foreseeable future. If you really are concerned about the health of others and pride yourself in putting no one at serious health risk and always engaging in pleasant, responsible social conduct, that is.You're just repeating yourself about Covid-19. I've already responded to that point in the linked post. Try and respond to my response rather than just repeating your initial idea.
I do agree with what you say about the worthlessness of old Covid-19 tests though so please explain why you think your old STI tests are worth anything.
Not sure why you assume the punter has the disease. Maybe the chick has the disease. Maybe neither party has the disease. But what about the educated ones that ET said need no convincing? Any excuses or white kniting for them? From my experience nobody needs any arm twisting; educated, uneducated, first world, third world. HUMAN BEINGS tend to fuck without protection. There would not be so many bastards on this planet if that was not the case. I have a 24 year old kid in the first world to prove it. Oh, and my parents have me to prove it as well. Almost forgot about the shit ton of cousins and nephews and niece and 2 grandkids to prove it.
Next up: Cover the food so flies won't get on it.Who's white knighting? Not me. I agree that if somebody needs no convincing to bareback, let them bareback. There's even a genre of pornography called 'disease ridden' and if people are into that sort of thing that's fine by me. I'm just responding to the bizarre idea that waving around old medical certificates is of any value to anyone.
You're just repeating yourself about Covid-19. I've already responded to that point in the linked post. Try and respond to my response rather than just repeating your initial idea.
I do agree with what you say about the worthlessness of old Covid-19 tests though so please explain why you think your old STI tests are worth anything.The White Knight wannabes and hand wringers over other people choosing to go bareback while they insist they always "pop one on" are the tiresome, endless one trick ponies here.
If my annual medical check ups and routine 2-3 month HIV/STD/STI blood checks right up to the one I had 7 weeks ago as well as any I have heard mentioned to me by any female I have ever fucked (except for that one university girlfriend when I was in my early 20s who gave me a dose of easily treatable trichomonas) have shown zero positive results for me and nothing alarming enough to meaningfully alter the lives of my partners for the past 48+ years of mongering BBFS+CIP with thousands of different women, I realize it provides no guarantee of 100% safety for me or the lovely young girl I bareback fucked about 18 hours ago.
But I will definitely take it as evidence that whatever I have been doing has worked well for me in terms of my health and that of my partners. Particularly by comparison to the unplanned pregnancies and horror stories of STD/STI infections I hear from most guys who claim to always wear condoms for sex and who might have only been mongering for half the time and with a small fraction of the number of different partners I've had. Therefore, I feel comfortable continuing to do what I do and not what they do. That's what those tests are worth to me.
By contrast, there is no discretion, no choice in the matter, no observations, smell, taste or touch test, no treatment, no cure and no vaccination for an aerosol borne Pandemic virus that you can get (and carry to thousands of other people, some of whom will die from it and rather quickly) when a carrier walks up behind you in queue at the ATM and coughs on you 2 minutes after you've left the testing clinic where you came up negative.
The White Knight wannabes and hand wringers over other people choosing to go bareback while they insist they always "pop one on" are the tiresome, endless one trick ponies here.
If my annual medical check ups and routine 2-3 month HIV/STD/STI blood checks right up to the one I had 7 weeks ago as well as any I have heard mentioned to me by any female I have ever fucked (except for that one university girlfriend when I was in my early 20s who gave me a dose of easily treatable trichomonas) have shown zero positive results for me and nothing alarming enough to meaningfully alter the lives of my partners for the past 48+ years of mongering BBFS+CIP with thousands of different women, I realize it provides no guarantee of 100% safety for me or the lovely young girl I bareback fucked about 18 hours ago.
But I will definitely take it as evidence that whatever I have been doing has worked well for me in terms of my health and that of my partners. Particularly by comparison to the unplanned pregnancies and horror stories of STD/STI infections I hear from most guys who claim to always wear condoms for sex and who might have only been mongering for half the time and with a small fraction of the number of different partners I've had. Therefore, I feel comfortable continuing to do what I do and not what they do. That's what those tests are worth to me.
By contrast, there is no discretion, no choice in the matter, no observations, smell, taste or touch test, no treatment, no cure and no vaccination for an aerosol borne Pandemic virus that you can get (and carry to thousands of other people, some of whom will die from it and rather quickly) when a carrier walks up behind you in queue at the ATM and coughs on you 2 minutes after you've left the testing clinic where you came up negative.Do your annual medical check-ups specifically test for chlamydia and gonorrhea or are they just generic urine tests that look for things like glucose levels and general health markers? Where are you getting this test done? You seem to be very confused and believe yourself to be some kind of medical miracle who is immune from extremely infectious bacterial STIs.
As for Covid-19, as I explained before, there is no evidence of any community transmission in Thailand at the moment so what you wrote is complete drivel.
If you're so easily upset by people questioning your bareback practices, why do you repeatedly post them on a public forum?
Mr Enternational
09-19-20, 12:42
Who's white knighting? Not me. I agree that if somebody needs no convincing to bareback, let them bareback. I said that because you singled out uneducated women as if you needed to save them from the horrible wiley mongers that would dare even suggest they go BB. I will say it once again, I have not met any chick around here that needed any convincing. And remember that I am a guy that goes with the flow. I don't have a list that says a chick needs to give me a blowjob or kiss in the mouth or anything else. Let's just go have fun.
I met a chick last night. She came over and I found out she was 33. I said good. That means I can fuck you in the ass, because all ladies over 30 can fuck in the ass. She said no you can not fuck my ass. What does 30 have anything to do with it. So we took our clothes off and got in the bed and the first thing I did was grab the vaseline. Usually I will just do that and quit. But this time I opened it and got some out and rubbed it on her azzhole. She said nothing. I got on top of her and started to put my dick in her ass and she said nothing. Then I got off and said just joking and turned her over and started a "basic" session.
LittleBigMan
09-19-20, 13:19
MP messaged me and confirmed the Golden Time on Soi 15 near Soi Buakhao is indeed Baccara for the time being. Seems like the current hot spot while Baccara is temporarily closed. MP can share the details if he wishes. Would love to have a successful gogo bar in that area.
Does GT count as a LK metro gogo bar for Gilololipop to bang 80 (or is it 60 or 100%) of the Baccara girls BBFS?I've been to GT twice when they open a year ago. There were lots of comments and debate on the place on another website but I'm not part of that website any longer for personal reasons. The negatives were when they opened is their location it is right at the corner of what is consider Gentlemen Club Alley, 555,Naughty, Buka. So when they opened it was assumed they would also be one but after the Grand opening the negative comments started to come in that they couldn't figure out if they were a GoGo or a GC, another negative was the prices for BF and what the girls were asking which wasn't consistent with what one could get just walking out the door especially when the talent wasn't anything to brag about.
The owners there seem to be the same owner now? One of the big negatives is the owners had a bad habit of bringing in high end talent for their Grand Opening and special events for one night for eye candy although they had one or two from other high end GoGo the general talent wasn't above some of the GC. There were complaints that these eye candy the BF was 2000 baht and these girls were asking as high as 10,000 baht I can personally confirm that one of the mamasan quoted me these prices for these girls from Bangkok.
First open, I heard and read that they had ST rooms on site and can confirm the price quoted 500 baht but girls for take out was much more more in the range of a GoGo thus the question are they a GC or a GoGo. Prior to the Virus it wasn't going well and the two times I was there can confirm the rumors the talent just wasn't there as a GoGo comparing them pretty much last in talent in the LK metro area. If the Virus didn't close them I don't think they would be operating today.
GT second Grand Opening was August 29th, the second opening the owners continued with their same habits inviting models? From Bangkok for their Grand Opening. I made a visit August 3rd, that is when I found out many working were from Bacarra that including former head male manager and head mamasan from Bacarra. So I wasn't surprise many of the talent was from those two many of these girls are related or good friends and have been with Bacarra since the first day they opened on W. S. Once I find that out with my cousin lady being off and there was another who I didn't know but knew me including knowing exactly where I live and my wife I was already mentally out of there. But before playing it cool as it didn't matter I brought some drinks and caught up with what was happening with them I didn't ask about price and the onset room including the corner booth which use to be a blow job area but when I ask about the BF I was told same as Bacarra before the Virus 1200 baht. I never got into price about ST / LT with these girls if working at GT they have adjusted their asking price since they are on Soi Baukhao what was the point I had to present myself as a good boy never to go back as long as this girl was there who I can't figure if she is a neighbor or someone invited to my house for a past party?
I ask one who was a showgirl at Bacarra did she try working at Pin Up she said yes but never ever having to work on a contract which if remember it was 5 days, 20 drinks, and 3 BF she found that too steep to meet since there were so many girls and not enough customers to go around. GT is asking 5 and 10 days contract which the 5 days requires 10 drinks I can't remember about the BF? Maybe M. P. If still around can confirm the prices at GT?
Just a note from last night I started my evening at Dollhouse, I was there early 8:30 pm there were maybe 10 customers majority of them were there before I got there and they left before I did which wasn't long after. Next stop was Pin Up just before entering I notice a new sign at Bacarra W. S. Bacarra will reopen 25th of September free food BBQ as far as I know Bacarra has always been on salary will they continue I have no idea but if the two majory players leave GT I know many of the girls there now will follow?
When I went inside Pin Up majority of the people I saw at Dollhouse were there I did noticed although there are still a lot of girls I noticed less girls got me thinking the customers now are the same ones running around town all pretty much narrowing down to one or two favorites to finish their evening. There are the same old guys (retired) prior to the Virus like myself and then you usually a small group of young guys who you assume are well off stuck here enjoying themselves so as the 26th coming up next week they are going to be pushed out if that is the case old bastard like myself short, fat, no game, hair coming out of their nose, hair in the ear, yellow teeth, are going to be the only ones left here.
My next stop on the way home was Destiny on L. K. I was one of 3 customers inside after a few moments a girl sat down next to me I said why? She was actually something I would BF but not tonight told me she seen me before and it was at Pin Up I said why you leave? Now I would have thought she was 25-26 responded 32 said she had a tough time working with so many 19-21 she couldn't meet the requirements and said BF was too high at 1500. At this rate it doesn't look good with people not being able to come in I sense by end of year many girls will be going home and places closing down.
By contrast, there is no discretion, no choice in the matter, no observations, smell, taste or touch test, no treatment, no cure and no vaccination for an aerosol borne Pandemic virus that you can get (and carry to thousands of other people, some of whom will die from it and rather quickly) when a carrier walks up behind you in queue at the ATM and coughs on you 2 minutes after you've left the testing clinic where you came up negative.ET you do realize that the covid argument is not in your favor. Because people are being told to social distance and wear a mask, as I'm sure you have been doing during the outbreak in BKK. It is proven that wearing masks and social distancing have helped fight and minimize the spread of covid as you can see where you are living. People who have not taken this seriously and were lax with mask wearing have paid a price as is clear from certain states in the US and Sweden for example. So using the covid argument actually supports wearing condoms to minimize risk and stop the spread.
As far as education whether the girls have PhDs or not, if you tell a girl the scientific facts, such as wearing a condom reduces risk by such a percentage.
Not wearing one increases the risk by such a percentage.
Not wearing one with a partner who has unprotected sex with multiple partners increase the risk by this much.
Not wearing one with a partner who has unprotected sex with multiple prostitutes who also have unprotected sex with multiple partners will increase it by this much.
In a country which is known to be the number 1 sex tourist destination in the world where mongers travel throughout the year increases it by this much.
Having unprotected anal sex with those partners increase your risk but this much.
I'm sure if you simply explain the risks, ie educate, the matter is quite clear, no one likes to put themselves at risk of diseases.
That being said some people, both men and women are fine with taking that chance and that's fine.
Danny Duck
09-19-20, 17:24
I've been to GT twice when they open a year ago. There were lots of comments and debate on the place on another website but I'm not part of that website any longer for personal reasons. The negatives were when they opened is their location it is right at the corner of what is consider Gentlemen Club Alley, 555,Naughty, Buka. So when they opened it was assumed they would also be one but after the Grand opening the negative comments started to come in that they couldn't figure out if they were a GoGo or a GC, another negative was the prices for BF and what the girls were asking which wasn't consistent with what one could get just walking out the door especially when the talent wasn't anything to brag about.
The owners there seem to be the same owner now? One of the big negatives is the owners had a bad habit of bringing in high end talent for their Grand Opening and special events for one night for eye candy although they had one or two from other high end GoGo the general talent wasn't above some of the GC. There were complaints that these eye candy the BF was 2000 baht and these girls were asking as high as 10,000 baht I can personally confirm that one of the mamasan quoted me these prices for these girls from Bangkok.
First open, I heard and read that they had ST rooms on site and can confirm the price quoted 500 baht but girls for take out was much more more in the range of a GoGo thus the question are they a GC or a GoGo. Prior to the Virus it wasn't going well and the two times I was there can confirm the rumors the talent just wasn't there as a GoGo comparing them pretty much last in talent in the LK metro area. If the Virus didn't close them I don't think they would be operating today..Love the insight.
Pin up three Barfines per contract. Sounds reasonable. I just don't see the girls being Barfined even when it's wall to wall customers.
Do your annual medical check-ups specifically test for chlamydia and gonorrhea or are they just generic urine tests that look for things like glucose levels and general health markers? Where are you getting this test done? You seem to be very confused and believe yourself to be some kind of medical miracle who is immune from extremely infectious bacterial STIs.
As for Covid-19, as I explained before, there is no evidence of any community transmission in Thailand at the moment so what you wrote is complete drivel.
If you're so easily upset by people questioning your bareback practices, why do you repeatedly post them on a public forum?The reason there has been no community outbreak in Thailand is because the country jumped on the mitigation measures at the national level ASAP; masks, social distancing, curfews, closures, etc that went on for months. Or hadn't you noticed?
Btw, we also stiil get our temperature taken every time we walk into a 7-11 or a mall. By your reasoning there is no need, purpose or value in doing that since taking that "test" after the fact did not and could not prevent us from getting Covid or from us having spread it to 1000 people before we got "tested." And, hey, there is no community outbreak in Thailand.
Any idea why it is done anyway? Give it some thought.
I am not upset about anything. I was just pointing out your holier than thou hypocrisy in claiming to worry about the spread of disease while you are still going out to violate every mitigation measure recommended to prevent the spread of a virus more infectious and deadly than any STI in circulation.
ET you do realize that the covid argument is not in your favor. Because people are being told to social distance and wear a mask, as I'm sure you have been doing during the outbreak in BKK. It is proven that wearing masks and social distancing have helped fight and minimize the spread of covid as you can see where you are living. People who have not taken this seriously and were lax with mask wearing have paid a price as is clear from certain states in the US and Sweden for example. So using the covid argument actually supports wearing condoms to minimize risk and stop the spread.
As far as education whether the girls have PhDs or not, if you tell a girl the scientific facts, such as wearing a condom reduces risk by such a percentage.
Not wearing one increases the risk by such a percentage.
Not wearing one with a partner who has unprotected sex with multiple partners increase the risk by this much.
Not wearing one with a partner who has unprotected sex with multiple prostitutes who also have unprotected sex with multiple partners will increase it by this much.
In a country which is known to be the number 1 sex tourist destination in the world where mongers travel throughout the year increases it by this much.
Having unprotected anal sex with those partners increase your risk but this much.
I'm sure if you simply explain the risks, ie educate, the matter is quite clear, no one likes to put themselves at risk of diseases.
That being said some people, both men and women are fine with taking that chance and that's fine.What "argument" do you imagine I am making?
I am not promoting or denying the risks of going bareback any more than I am promoting or denying the risks of violating all the Covid spread mitigation measures.
Banana Boi
09-20-20, 07:19
It's getting more and more difficult to find relevant Pattaya posts these days. If you guys want to argue there's a PM function on this board!
But my friends say it is a gogo/gentlemens club. They have rooms there. Barfine/room is 500 and girls 1000?.Interesting. Obviously I'm only getting my information second hand unlike some poster on here who are pretending to be in Thailand getting BBFS from every girl he meets. 1500 baht from a Baccara quality main floor girl would be a steal. Not so much for the 2nd floor girls. Did any of your buddies actually take a girl to a room in the club?
Pin up three Barfines per contract. Sounds reasonable. I just don't see the girls being Barfined even when it's wall to wall customers.Not many Pattaya gogo girls got 3 real barfines per 7 or 10 day contract even pre-COVID. 3 BF and 20 drinks in a 5 day contract would have only been for the stars.
Mr Enternational
09-20-20, 08:03
Interesting. Obviously I'm only getting my information second hand unlike some poster on here who are pretending to be in Thailand getting BBFS from every girl he meets. 1500 baht from a Baccara quality main floor girl would be a steal. Not so much for the 2nd floor girls. Did any of your buddies actually take a girl to a room in the club?I bought myself a ginger ale and one of those hostess chicks stuck to me like glue even though I did not buy her a drink or anything. There was a mamasan with glasses who my buddy said probably looked good back in her day. I was surprised to see a DJ in the place. Seemed like they could just have a tape or USB playing that music. I doubt anyone would know the difference.
I got my info second hand too because I did not ask anything when I was inside of the place. I don't remember the actual price they said that is why I put the question mark. But the price was low enough that I stated I would probably have fucked one the day I went in there had I known that. (Actually I would not have because I had been riding my bicycle and was smelling bad when I ran into my friend that wanted me to tag along.) They also mentioned that lady drinks are up to 200 baht in some places.
I ran into MP right as he was leaving Golden Times Friday night. He was in the back of a baht bus and I was behind it on my motorbike headed to Walking Street. I told him that I would see him down on Walking Street but I did not run into him after that.
The reason there has been no community outbreak in Thailand is because the country jumped on the mitigation measures at the national level ASAP; masks, social distancing, curfews, closures, etc that went on for months. Or hadn't you noticed?
Btw, we also stiil get our temperature taken every time we walk into a 7-11 or a mall. By your reasoning there is no need, purpose or value in doing that since taking that "test" after the fact did not and could not prevent us from getting Covid or from us having spread it to 1000 people before we got "tested." And, hey, there is no community outbreak in Thailand.
Any idea why it is done anyway? Give it some thought.
I am not upset about anything. I was just pointing out your holier than thou hypocrisy in claiming to worry about the spread of disease while you are still going out to violate every mitigation measure recommended to prevent the spread of a virus more infectious and deadly than any STI in circulation.Logical reasoning isn't your strong point is it? With regard to both Covid-19 and condoms I'm following the advice of the local health authorities so where's the hypocrisy?
And I notice you didn't answer the question about your supposed annual chlamydia and gonorrhea tests. But you like to quickly change the subject when someone asks you an inconvenient question don't you? But no doubt you're still going to stick with your ridiculous claims to be miraculously immune from sexually transmitted infections.
It's getting more and more difficult to find relevant Pattaya posts these days. If you guys want to argue there's a PM function on this board!
The problem is ET has turned the Bangkok thread and now this one into his own personal blog about his daily struggles to get bareback sex in Thailand. The Bangkok thread has long been unreadable as a result and now he seems to be doing the same with this one. This forum allows the creation of user blogs so I don't know why he doesn't start his own entitled "my struggles to get bareback sex" and see how many people are actually interested in that shit.
Logical reasoning isn't your strong point is it? With regard to both Covid-19 and condoms I'm following the advice of the local health authorities so where's the hypocrisy?
And I notice you didn't answer the question about your supposed annual chlamydia and gonorrhea tests. But you like to quickly change the subject when someone asks you an inconvenient question don't you? But no doubt you're still going to stick with your ridiculous claims to be miraculously immune from sexually transmitted infections.The local health authorities are recommending you choose a girl from a line up at a happy ending massage shop or oily and fuck her in one of their rooms if you really want to protect her, yourself and others from Covid-19? Bullshit.
I alternate the STD test I get every 2-3 months from testing syphilis, which I get a result within the hour, to testing for gonorrhea, which takes a few days to get a result by email. I was tested for Chlamydia and HPV about 18 months ago but since both of those can be transmitted whether you're wearing a condom or not, I consider it a non issue regarding condom use and don't continually test for it. Similar to herpes in that regard. I took the HPV vaccination series a couple of years ago because I understand it can be transmitted orally and I eat a lot of pussy. I hope that information helps you sleep better tonight.
The problem is ET has turned the Bangkok thread and now this one into his own personal blog about his daily struggles to get bareback sex in Thailand. The Bangkok thread has long been unreadable as a result and now he seems to be doing the same with this one. This forum allows the creation of user blogs so I don't know why he doesn't start his own entitled "my struggles to get bareback sex" and see how many people are actually interested in that shit.Here's some logical reasoning for you. If getting DFK and BBBJ were key to a poster's assessment of a good, bad or indifferent P4P experience or destination but he didn't mention that is why he gave this or that experience a pass or fail, readers would not have much info on which to base their own conclusion. BBFS+CIP, Real Sex, is that factor for me. AND getting an upfront agreement for it as well. Two factors very few other mongers or posters apply, although I get plenty of PMs telling me there are several here after all.
So I kind of need to mention that when I answer a question or reply to a comment on the subject of P4P. If I don't, even I would wonder why in the world a seasoned monger who lives in Thailand would find himself with 1 taker out of some 24-30 nights of cruising and shopping in the P4P areas of Pattaya on the false assumption that he is only asking for and expecting the standard, basic fare of lick around the edges, if that, slip on a condom and proceed, the sum total of what likely 90% of Thai punters expect and get. See how that works?
I hereby forbid you to read any more of my posts. They are simply too nuanced, complex and upsetting for you.
The local health authorities are recommending you choose a girl from a line up at a happy ending massage shop or oily and fuck her in one of their rooms if you really want to protect her, yourself and others from Covid-19? Bullshit.
I alternate the STD test I get every 2-3 months from testing syphilis, which I get a result within the hour, to testing for gonorrhea, which takes a few days to get a result by email. I was tested for Chlamydia and HPV about 18 months ago but since both of those can be transmitted whether you're wearing a condom or not, I consider it a non issue regarding condom use. I took the HPV vaccination series a couple of years ago because I understand it can be transmitted orally and I eat a lot of pussy.I think we're all adults, customers, mongers and Thai ladies. I hate condoms because I disengage quickly. On the other hand, fucking a very pretty working girl without a condom, it turns me on seriously! It turns me on even more to fuck a working girl when she refuses to fuck without a condom! She always ends up giving in with more money!
I love to eat their pussy and lot of deep French kisses.
But don't worry I always treat them with a lot of respect. I'm always generous with these girls. Girls love me a lot, they're just jealous I fuck all the girls in Pattaya or Bangkok.
Everyday I love to go on the facebook pages on the bars in Soi 6 and everywhere in BKK and Pattaya and I love to look their new girls! Usually I find the girls I want on facebook or tinder and then I go to the bar to fuck her.
Posters on ISG who state that they have BBFS are very few and seemed to be confined to one or two Thailand threads. Most likely much less than 1% of mongers, perhaps .001%. That being said I take their boasts of bare backing and regular health checks with a grain of salt.
The local health authorities are recommending you choose a girl from a line up at a happy ending massage shop or oily and fuck her in one of their rooms if you really want to protect her, yourself and others from Covid-19? Bullshit.
I alternate the STD test I get every 2-3 months from testing syphilis, which I get a result within the hour, to testing for gonorrhea, which takes a few days to get a result by email. I was tested for Chlamydia and HPV about 18 months ago but since both of those can be transmitted whether you're wearing a condom or not, I consider it a non issue regarding condom use and don't continually test for it. Similar to herpes in that regard. I took the HPV vaccination series a couple of years ago because I understand it can be transmitted orally and I eat a lot of pussy. I hope that information helps you sleep better tonight.The health authorities allowed go go bars and massage parlours to reopen. They were the last to reopen for a reason. Do you think the authorities don't know what goes on there? The assessment has been made that the risk of Covid-19 spreading in Thailand is extremely low and I'm happy to follow that rather than your drivel.
You again reveal your ignorance about STIs. Chlamydia is the most widespread STI but can be prevented with condom use. What made you think otherwise? If it's 18 months since you've had a test for that and you've been barebacking several prostitutes per week then you're at very high risk of catching and passing on chlamydia. So your repeated claims that your regular testing make any risk minimal are clearly totally false.
Here's some logical reasoning for you. If getting DFK and BBBJ were key to a poster's assessment of a good, bad or indifferent P4P experience or destination but he didn't mention that is why he gave this or that experience a pass or fail, readers would not have much info on which to base their own conclusion. BBFS+CIP, Real Sex, is that factor for me. AND getting an upfront agreement for it as well. Two factors very few other mongers or posters apply, although I get plenty of PMs telling me there are several here after all.
So I kind of need to mention that when I answer a question or reply to a comment on the subject of P4P. If I don't, even I would wonder why in the world a seasoned monger who lives in Thailand would find himself with 1 taker out of some 24-30 nights of cruising and shopping in the P4P areas of Pattaya on the false assumption that he is only asking for and expecting the standard, basic fare of lick around the edges, if that, slip on a condom and proceed, the sum total of what likely 90% of Thai punters expect and get. See how that works?
I hereby forbid you to read any more of my posts. They are simply too nuanced, complex and upsetting for you.Not upsetting at all. I find your mental struggles mildly amusing but your repetitive posting about exactly the same topic extremely tedious.
It's not all about you, is it? Just because you need something doesn't mean you have to shit up two threads by repeating the same thing over and over again. It's a public forum so you've got to ask is this relevant to other people? Do other people really want to read the same think over and over from the same poster or is it just your own little quirk that you can keep to yourself? If it's just about your own needs then a user blog on this forum or even a Twitter account would be the best place for it. There's no need for you to flood two threads with a topic that is only of interest to a small minority of posters.
GettingFedUp
09-20-20, 17:53
Posters on ISG who state that they have BBFS are very few and seemed to be confined to one or two Thailand threads. Most likely much less than 1% of mongers, perhaps .001%. That being said I take their boasts of bare backing and regular health checks with a grain of salt.I'm not taking sides on this one, but the Forum rules and guidelines http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/custompages.php?pageid=ForumRules state:
No Safe Sex Complaints: Forum Members wishing to criticize other Members for not following what they consider to be safe sex procedures may do so only in the Safe Sex Thread. Members may not comment upon, criticize or confront other members on this subject in the general discussion threads. Any such "safe sex complaints" posted in the general discussion threads will be deleted without comment. However.
No Safe Sex Bragging: Members may not repeatedly post about or otherwise taunt other Members regarding their refusal to follow safe sex procedures. Specifically, references to having sex without a condom may be made only by incidental reference and shall not be the focus of any report. Such "safe sex taunting" reports will be deleted without comment.
So maybe less confronting and more keeping references only incidental would be good.
HorseTrader
09-20-20, 18:01
Posters on ISG who state that they have BBFS are very few and seemed to be confined to one or two Thailand threads. Most likely much less than 1% of mongers, perhaps .001%. That being said I take their boasts of bare backing and regular health checks with a grain of salt.My personal experience is that about 10%-20% of Thai P4P girls never slow down enough to use a condom and I suspect that many punters prefer it that way. I have no idea how many punters get medical checks, but getting gonorrhea is painful and would force medical treatment.
Posters on ISG who state that they have BBFS are very few and seemed to be confined to one or two Thailand threads. Most likely much less than 1% of mongers, perhaps .001%. That being said I take their boasts of bare backing and regular health checks with a grain of salt.My guess is it's way higher than 1%.
The health authorities allowed go go bars and massage parlours to reopen. They were the last to reopen for a reason. Do you think the authorities don't know what goes on there? The assessment has been made that the risk of Covid-19 spreading in Thailand is extremely low and I'm happy to follow that rather than your drivel.
You again reveal your ignorance about STIs. Chlamydia is the most widespread STI but can be prevented with condom use. What made you think otherwise? If it's 18 months since you've had a test for that and you've been barebacking several prostitutes per week then you're at very high risk of catching and passing on chlamydia. So your repeated claims that your regular testing make any risk minimal are clearly totally false.You were asking forum advice for which go-go bars you should go to in order to find girls with the factors you require. If you finally conquered your fear of go-go girls and went into some of those bars, none of them follow the local health authorities' mitigation recommendations.
I'm not taking sides on this one, but the Forum rules and guidelines http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/custompages.php?pageid=ForumRules state:
No Safe Sex Complaints: Forum Members wishing to criticize other Members for not following what they consider to be safe sex procedures may do so only in the Safe Sex Thread. Members may not comment upon, criticize or confront other members on this subject in the general discussion threads. Any such "safe sex complaints" posted in the general discussion threads will be deleted without comment. However.
No Safe Sex Bragging: Members may not repeatedly post about or otherwise taunt other Members regarding their refusal to follow safe sex procedures. Specifically, references to having sex without a condom may be made only by incidental reference and shall not be the focus of any report. Such "safe sex taunting" reports will be deleted without comment.
So maybe less confronting and more keeping references only incidental would be good.That is exactly why I tried in vain to get W-man off that particular White Knight wannabe hand wringing topic. I assumed one or two more of his repetitive posts about spreading STIs would get him suspended for a while if the admin noticed.
Posters on ISG who state that they have BBFS are very few and seemed to be confined to one or two Thailand threads. Most likely much less than 1% of mongers, perhaps .001%. That being said I take their boasts of bare backing and regular health checks with a grain of salt.Really? I see the topic of BBFS going on at great length in the Bangkok thread whenever it is brought up (here too), which is rarely by me other than to reply or comment on what has already been asked or posted about it. I think if you go there now you would have to wade through several posts about it (as a topic) from various posters before you even get to one of mine. And, as usual, mine is in response to a comment made by another poster on the topic who mentioned me.
It isn't brought up as often in some other threads because BBFS is routinely provided anyway in some other P4P destinations.
Jimmy Boy 99
09-21-20, 03:36
That is exactly why I tried in vain to get W-man off that particular White Knight wannabe hand wringing topic. I assumed one or two more of his repetitive posts about it would get him suspended for a while if the admin noticed.Perhaps you and *****man should put each other on your Ignore lists to end this and future arguments.
Perhaps you and *****man should put each other on your Ignore lists to end this and future arguments.Why end a discussion about anything on the topic of sex that people are apparently stimulated by enough to weigh in by the dozens? Except for the bareback shaming persistently engaged in by 1-2 posters in violation of forum rules, that is.
Jimmy Boy 99
09-21-20, 04:03
Why end a discussion about anything on the topic of sex that people are apparently stimulated by enough to weigh in by the dozens? Except for the bareback shaming persistently engaged in by 1-2 posters in violation of forum rules, that is.
Putting each other on on your ignore lists will end your back and forth with *****man, not end the discussion with others.
Putting each other on on your ignore lists will end your back and forth with *****man, not end the discussion with others.And I can count at least 4-5 other posters who not only weighed in on the topic but quoted my or W-man's comments to do it. Yes, even the "argumentative" parts.
Folks, the fix for changing the subject when you'd rather discuss something else is the same here as everywhere; contribute a post on the topic you'd prefer be discussed and hope it is interesting and stimulating enough to replace the one you don't like. lol.
Banana Boi
09-21-20, 05:49
I was surprised to see a DJ in the place. Seemed like they could just have a tape or USB playing that music. I doubt anyone would know the difference.Most gogo bars have DJs and GT is sounding more like a gogo bar than a BJ bar / G club. They are hoping customers will tip the DJ to play the songs they want to hear. They pay the DJ maybe 300 baht per night and easily recoup that in tips by drunken customers.
Banana Boi
09-21-20, 05:58
There are certain members on this board who for lack of a better phrase HAVE TO HAVE THE LAST WORD! They need to pound their chest and show their balls are bigger. Anyone reading the Thailand forum for long enough will know the common culprits. You don't have to put them on ignore but please try your best not to respond to them because I can guarantee you will get another reply and the cycle will keep repeating indefinitely.
Really wish there was an active Admin person on the Thailand threads that deleted or at least moved any posts unrelated to the thread they are posted under. Yes, this post falls into the category of one of those posts that should be removed!
One of the reasons I never posted any reviews in the Bangkok thread before other than live updates from Thermae was because I figured why waste my time writing something up when it would be buried 3 pages deep within 24 hours. Trash on these threads are a huge deterrent to guys who have relevant information to post.
Pimpampoumpipo
09-21-20, 11:25
One of the reasons I never posted any reviews in the Bangkok thread before other than live updates from Thermae was because I figured why waste my time writing something up when it would be buried 3 pages deep within 24 hours. Trash on these threads are a huge deterrent to guys who have relevant information to post.Show us the example and publish interesting posts.
Thank you.
LittleBigMan
09-21-20, 13:23
Most gogo bars have DJs and GT is sounding more like a gogo bar than a BJ bar / G club. They are hoping customers will tip the DJ to play the songs they want to hear. They pay the DJ maybe 300 baht per night and easily recoup that in tips by drunken customers.With GT, the past and present I never looked or thought about it DJ, but you and Mr. E is right if there is one then that would swing it for me it is a GoGo.
GettingFedUp
09-21-20, 15:01
That is exactly why I tried in vain to get W-man off that particular White Knight wannabe hand wringing topic. I assumed one or two more of his repetitive posts about spreading STIs would get him suspended for a while if the admin noticed.As I said, I'm not taking sides one way or t'other, but find the whole clutter tiresome. So you (amongst others) have been and will be keeping references incidental rather than the entire subject of your reports? That might stop the "White Knight wannabe"'s chargers in the stables.
I didn't set the guidelines.
That is exactly why I tried in vain to get W-man off that particular White Knight wannabe hand wringing topic. I assumed one or two more of his repetitive posts about spreading STIs would get him suspended for a while if the admin noticed.I'm not criticising you for your safe sex practices. The whole point is that I and most other people who use this forum don't care about your personal safe sex practices any more than we care about your arse wiping practices. I'm criticising your firstly for selfishly spoiling this thread with irrelevant posts about your own sexual dysfunction that nobody else cares about and secondly for posting absurd claims that your 18 month old medical certificate proves you're not spreading infections. You are the anti-social one who has turned two threads into his own personal blog and then started throwing the white knight insult to anyone who challenges that.
If I thought ignoring ET would solve the problem I would do it but it won't because he baits other people so much that it dominates the thread and constitutes a majority of the replies.
As I said, I'm not taking sides one way or t'other, but find the whole clutter tiresome. So you (amongst others) have been and will be keeping references incidental rather than the entire subject of your reports? That might stop the "White Knight wannabe"'s chargers in the stables.
I didn't set the guidelines.Someone please link me to all these supposed posts of mine where BBFS+CIP is the entire subject of my report unless I am replying to or responding to a specific question about it as a topic.
You folks do realize W-man's repeated delusional raving and ranting about that is in no way supported by the facts, right?
Banana Boi
09-22-20, 04:30
I think a few guys here don't get along with ET and trust me ET and I have had our run ins in the past as well. However, ET does post actual relevant reviews and updates on the bar scene. Same applies to those who disliked MP in the past. At least guys like MP and ET provide timely information which is more than I can say for 95% of the guys on here even when you are in Thailand. If you guys don't like what someone says including myself please just ignore it and move on. Don't try to one-up another guy. This is a review board and this is the Pattaya thread.
Your mental struggles are hilarious. To follow your bizarre logic, if I have a Covid-19 test from 11 months ago, this proves that I don't have Covid-19 now. The image I have of you sitting in your underpants with one old medical certificate in each hand trying to convince a girl that this proves it's safe to bareback is comical.
Anyway, you made exactly the same point about Covid-19 months ago which I replied to back then and you didn't have an argument against so I don't know why you're repeating it now. Maybe your memory is failing?
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?2186-Pattaya-Reports&p=2458720&viewfull=1#post2458720/ (https://4kpornindex.com)A waste of time.
Franciscass
09-22-20, 06:17
I think a few guys here don't get along with ET and trust me ET and I have had our run ins in the past as well. However, ET does post actual relevant reviews and updates on the bar scene. Same applies to those who disliked MP in the past. At least guys like MP and ET provide timely information which is more than I can say for 95% of the guys on here even when you are in Thailand. If you guys don't like what someone says including myself please just ignore it and move on. Don't try to one-up another guy. This is a review board and this is the Pattaya thread.I agree BB, there is little on the forum nowadays that helps with the who, where, what, how much and that usually comes from infrequent posters. For reasons which I can only put down to egotistical narcissism some members wake up in the morning with an overwhelming need to tell us in a vainglorious style how they spent the day or the night before. Because they obviously get gratuitous satisfaction from this perhaps even more if it generates some push back nothing will deter them from continuing. That said ISG is a public forum. We are all entitled to our point of view on topics being discussed, we can comment on whether they should be appear on this thread or that thread or indeed on any thread but trying to police the forum is pointless. As mentioned so so often if one doesn't like what one sees as Bob Seegar said Turn The Page.
Mr Enternational
09-23-20, 09:39
1500 baht from a Baccara quality main floor girl would be a steal. Not so much for the 2nd floor girls. Did any of your buddies actually take a girl to a room in the club?Yeah my buddy just confirmed that rooms at Golden Times are 500 and the chicks may ask 2000, but they will gladly accept 1000. This is for 2 hours. He said he usually finishes with them in 40 minutes though.
LittleBigMan
09-23-20, 12:19
I met up with M. P. Last night for a meal first at Cheap Charlie's although our age is a few generation aparts it really isn't age when it comes to mongering. We talked mostly about how the game is played although older I know I'm generation short of pussy under my belt compare to him we didn't talk old times that would be more suited if I was talking to his dad.
Good or bad evening? During dinner I noticed an older Thai lady sitting and eating with a Farang in front of us somehow while eyeing a nice looking massage girl next door I couldn't stop thinking where have I seen this old lady before now when I say old she isn't older than me. As we got ready to pay the bill decided to have a visit and a drink at Golden Time it came to me this lady was the mother of one of my renters who knows my wife well had me thinking WTF lucky I was with M. P. And not a another lady.
During dinner we discussed that Bacarra on W. S. Was having a Grand opening the 25th, Friday of September as discussed earlier GT has many girls from Bacarra working plus the manager and head mamasan. As we got ready to walk in we were met by the Thai manager of Bacarra in our short conversation he said this was his last night and that he will be returning to Bacarra. We both kind of noticed the manager was a bit surprise we knew each other M. P. Joke you didn't know this is my father. As we got seated a few girls from Bacarra recognized me I think they were all surprised that I was with M. P. I ask them if they knew him and all said " oh yes. ".
In our short time there one thing M. P. We would never pick the same girls not only are our age different but our taste. Not saying his taste is bad but his girls are young and top in looks and body figure I wouldn't turn them away but I'm completely opposite I like them older and there were plenty there to satisfy me in that category I also like them with a bit more meat on the bones. My last visit a week or so ago there was a girl who knew who I was where I live plus knowing my wife, after being seated a girl near me bent over and said " you remember me " she didn't seem to be working but there to visit her friend which was the one who recognized me the last time in the end she is a neighbor along with one of the other servers. So this pretty much put the brakes on any extra activity no staring no touching nothing! Luckily I had M. P. As a excuse as to why I was out tonight. Unless something changes this place is off limits to me in the future expecially if alone.
The rest of my visit was catching up with ladies I haven't seen in a while along with the head mamasan while I think M. P. Was sizing up future perspectives. In conversation with the Mamasan the BJ booth at the corner is still there but no curtain for that service she confirm they do have a short time room as noted by Mr. E, 500 baht and girl 2000? If you want to take the girl out it is 1200 BF. The head mamasan of Bacarra prior to Virus will not be returning to run the show she indicate Bacarra wanted to start new and to hired all young and new to compete with Pin Up? Many of the old will not be returning to Bacarra and staying at GT. It should be noted that one of the silent partners of the Happy Group son is part owner of GT?
Pimpampoumpipo
09-23-20, 17:42
Under these conditions I am ok to do quarantine :)
https://www.khaosodenglish.com/news/crimecourtscalamity/2020/09/23/spa-massage-parlors-may-double-as-quarantine-for-foreign-tourists/
Danny Duck
09-23-20, 21:04
Yeah my buddy just confirmed that rooms at Golden Times are 500 and the chicks may ask 2000, but they will gladly accept 1000. This is for 2 hours. He said he usually finishes with them in 40 minutes though.Upstairs Baccarra girls accepting 1,000. I'm cool with that.
They aren't all that inspiring. LOL.
Danny Duck
09-23-20, 21:07
Under these conditions I am ok to do quarantine :)
https://www.khaosodenglish.com/news/crimecourtscalamity/2020/09/23/spa-massage-parlors-may-double-as-quarantine-for-foreign-tourists/Chartered flight in? How does that work? From Hawaii I need to rent my own 747? That's expensive.
Banana Boi
09-24-20, 05:04
Yeah my buddy just confirmed that rooms at Golden Times are 500 and the chicks may ask 2000, but they will gladly accept 1000. This is for 2 hours. He said he usually finishes with them in 40 minutes though.My understanding is the nicer Baccara girls won't go upstairs for that price but it's a moot point anyways since the Baccara girls won't be there moving forward.
As we got seated a few girls from Bacarra recognized me I think they were all surprised that I was with M. P. I ask them if they knew him and all said " oh yes. "It is funny at times when you are seen with MP by girls for the first time. My favorite was when my favorite Sensations waitress walked up to both of us and said "How does a nice guy like you know someone like <pointing to MP>".
Franciscass
09-24-20, 06:36
Chartered flight in? How does that work? From Hawaii I need to rent my own 747? That's expensive.I feel with millions out of work, thousands of businesses failing, hundreds of billions wiped off the stock market, they can no longer remain tone deaf. Pressure is growing to like most other countries open up in an intelligent meaningful way. There will no doubt be risk involved but it can be managed. To continue as is will bring irreparable harm that will take years to recover from. Hard to fathom why they are behaving the way they are.
LittleBigMan
09-24-20, 09:21
My understanding is the nicer Baccara girls won't go upstairs for that price but it's a moot point anyways since the Baccara girls won't be there moving forward.
It is funny at times when you are seen with MP by girls for the first time. My favorite was when my favorite Sensations waitress walked up to both of us and said "How does a nice guy like you know someone like <pointing to MP>".I found MP, to be a very nice guy and polite I think they actually believe MP was my son?
Here is my report on my favorite Gentlemen's Club in Pattaya. Just a little background. I was 2 years into a trip around the world when Covid broke out so I decided to just get a retirement visa here in Thailand. I just received my visa last week and am good now for 15 months. Might as well try to make the best out of a world turned upside down. I turned 62 the other day so there was only one place that I wanted to spend my birthday. Kinnaree's Place in Jomtien. I often frequent gentlemen's clubs here in Pattaya and Kinnaree's is my favorite hands down. I lived in Rio for a few years and it is the closest thing to a terma I. E. 4 x4, Luomo, and Solarium. Just don't like Go Go bars and beer bars because of the bad music and also girls are just too young. They maybe hotter but in my experience not great service. I like to relax on a sofa with a cutie and every gentlemen's club will have an area like this. I had every intention of doing a threesome and enjoying the Hamburger and Sausage buffet served every Wednesday. Saturday and Sundays are more expensive buffets with a BBQ and Sunday Carvery.
Layout.
3 seperate main rooms with sofas, large tables with stools, and 3 bar areas with red lights giving more of a Bordello feel. No loud music. Several large private rooms outfitted with Bathrooms, showers, and strategically placed mirrors. Some of them have sofas. They do have a limited menu besides the buffets. No tv's anywhere so your total focus is on the girls.
Girls.
There were about 35 girls and probably 15 to 20 guys in the midafternoon. So the place was packed as one of the bar areas was closed. Really wide range from 20 to 40 yrs old with most of the girls around 25 to 32. The only thing I can say about the variety is that there was some fuckin' pussy here. Girls in sexy dresses and some were wearing lingerie. Most 6 to 8 range with one 9. Hardly any tattoo's on the girls which is a huge plus in my book. Lot's of silicone which I don't really mind.
My Experience.
Chatted with a few girls when I turned around in my stool and saw this real sexy 27 yr. Old with long wavy hair and huge pouty lips. I decided that I wasn't going to do a threesome and wanted to devote all my attention to this girl. So I waved her over and bought her a lady drink for the 'interview'. She wanted to know why I didn't like her friend who I was talking to earlier. She said they make a good team because they both liked to eat pussy! Oh my Buddha! Ok I'm sold so back to a threesome. Waved her friend back over and bought her a lady drink. It didn't take me long to decide to take both of them (Meen? And Rye) back to a room. Had to wait 10 minutes because all of the rooms were taken and one was being cleaned. Only one pop but there was no way I could have done 2. Not sure if it was available. I was totally exhausted after about 45 minutes.
Cost.
This pricing is almost the norm for all of the Gentlemen's Clubs in Pattaya and I have been to many. There are some clubs with lower lady prices ($22) but the lady drinks and 'bar fines' are almost all of the same. I will price this in US dollars for more clarity. Since I spent more than $25 on drinks and bar fines they comped me the buffet.
2 lady drinks = $8.
2 bar fines = $22.
2 beers = $6.
2 girls = $62.
Buffet = free. (Normally priced at $8 for Wednesdays).
Baht bus to and from = 60 cents.
Total price for the afternoon $98.60.
Me and Rye licking Meen's pussy at the same time and sitting on the headboard while both girls kneeling sucking me off and watching them in the mirror at the front of the bed. Priceless!
GC clubs don't get a lot of attention on this forum but here is a list of my other favorites. There's a few more that I want to go to especially in the Jomtien area. Luv ya Pattaya!
1. Kinnaree's Place.
2. Babylon.
3. Maggy Mays.
4. Excite club.
5. Telephone Bar.
6. The Den.
7. The Cave.
8. Naughty club.
9. 555.
10. Baku lounge.
11. Kings Club.
12. Pirate club.
13. Club 4.
14. La Poste.
15. Bada Bing.
16. Camel Toe (avoid).
Nice report. I was in Bangkok and Pattaya to early April this winter but left due to my visa expiration and to attend to personal issues in the states. Of course, after I left the Thai government provided an amnesty until September 26, which theoretically would have allowed me to stay until that date. Like you, I am old enough and have the necessary financial liquidity, and, as such, able to get a retirement visa and would probably have applied except I needed to leave for reasons noted above. As we all know, once you leave you can't return in these Covid times. It's something I regret virtually every day, your monsoon season not withstanding.
However, I had to chuckle at your list of gentleman clubs to visit. The only one I have been was #16 CamelToe, which you note to avoid and I could not agree more. Just a woeful experience. If I ever get back though, I will check out some of the others you recommended.
Here is my report on my favorite Gentlemen's Club in Pattaya. Just a little background. I was 2 years into a trip around the world when Covid broke out so I decided to just get a retirement visa here in Thailand. I just received my visa last week and am good now for 15 months. Might as well try to make the best out of a world turned upside down. I turned 62 the other day so there was only one place that I wanted to spend my birthday. Kinnaree's Place in Jomtien. I often frequent gentlemen's clubs here in Pattaya and Kinnaree's is my favorite hands down. I lived in Rio for a few years and it is the closest thing to a terma I. E. 4 x4, Luomo, and Solarium. Just don't like Go Go bars and beer bars because of the bad music and also girls are just too young. They maybe hotter but in my experience not great service. I like to relax on a sofa with a cutie and every gentlemen's club will have an area like this. I had every intention of doing a threesome and enjoying the Hamburger and Sausage buffet served every Wednesday. Saturday and Sundays are more expensive buffets with a BBQ and Sunday Carvery.
Layout.
3 seperate main rooms with sofas, large tables with stools, and 3 bar areas with red lights giving more of a Bordello feel. No loud music. Several large private rooms outfitted with Bathrooms, showers, and strategically placed mirrors. Some of them have sofas. They do have a limited menu besides the buffets. No tv's anywhere so your total focus is on the girls.
Girls.
There were about 35 girls and probably 15 to 20 guys in the midafternoon. So the place was packed as one of the bar areas was closed. Really wide range from 20 to 40 yrs old with most of the girls around 25 to 32. The only thing I can say about the variety is that there was some fuckin' pussy here. Girls in sexy dresses and some were wearing lingerie. Most 6 to 8 range with one 9. Hardly any tattoo's on the girls which is a huge plus in my book. Lot's of silicone which I don't really mind.
My Experience.
Chatted with a few girls when I turned around in my stool and saw this real sexy 27 yr. Old with long wavy hair and huge pouty lips. I decided that I wasn't going to do a threesome and wanted to devote all my attention to this girl. So I waved her over and bought her a lady drink for the 'interview'. She wanted to know why I didn't like her friend who I was talking to earlier. She said they make a good team because they both liked to eat pussy! Oh my Buddha! Ok I'm sold so back to a threesome. Waved her friend back over and bought her a lady drink. It didn't take me long to decide to take both of them (Meen? And Rye) back to a room. Had to wait 10 minutes because all of the rooms were taken and one was being cleaned. Only one pop but there was no way I could have done 2. Not sure if it was available. I was totally exhausted after about 45 minutes.
Cost.
This pricing is almost the norm for all of the Gentlemen's Clubs in Pattaya and I have been to many. There are some clubs with lower lady prices ($22) but the lady drinks and 'bar fines' are almost all of the same. I will price this in US dollars for more clarity. Since I spent more than $25 on drinks and bar fines they comped me the buffet.
2 lady drinks = $8.
2 bar fines = $22.
2 beers = $6.
2 girls = $62.
Buffet = free. (Normally priced at $8 for Wednesdays).
Baht bus to and from = 60 cents.
Total price for the afternoon $98.60.
Me and Rye licking Meen's pussy at the same time and sitting on the headboard while both girls kneeling sucking me off and watching them in the mirror at the front of the bed. Priceless!
GC clubs don't get a lot of attention on this forum but here is a list of my other favorites. There's a few more that I want to go to especially in the Jomtien area. Luv ya Pattaya!
1. Kinnaree's Place.
2. Babylon.
3. Maggy Mays.
4. Excite club.
5. Telephone Bar.
6. The Den.
7. The Cave.
8. Naughty club.
9. 555.
10. Baku lounge.
11. Kings Club.
12. Pirate club.
13. Club 4.
14. La Poste.
15. Bada Bing.
16. Camel Toe (avoid).
Danny Duck
09-24-20, 15:48
Here is my report on my favorite Gentlemen's Club in Pattaya. Just a little background. I was 2 years into a trip around the world when Covid broke out so I decided to just get a retirement visa here in Thailand. I just received my visa last week and am good now for 15 months. Might as well try to make the best out of a world turned upside down. I turned 62 the other day so there was only one place that I wanted to spend my birthday. Kinnaree's Place in Jomtien. I often frequent gentlemen's clubs here in Pattaya and Kinnaree's is my favorite hands down. I lived in Rio for a few years and it is the closest thing to a terma I. E. 4 x4, Luomo, and Solarium. Just don't like Go Go bars and beer bars because of the bad music and also girls are just too young. They maybe hotter but in my experience not great service. I like to relax on a sofa with a cutie and every gentlemen's club will have an area like this. I had every intention of doing a threesome and enjoying the Hamburger and Sausage buffet served every Wednesday. Saturday and Sundays are more expensive buffets with a BBQ and Sunday Carvery.
Layout.
3 seperate main rooms with sofas, large tables with stools, and 3 bar areas with red lights giving more of a Bordello feel. No loud music. Several large private rooms outfitted with Bathrooms, showers, and strategically placed mirrors. Some of them have sofas. They do have a limited menu besides the buffets. No tv's anywhere so your total focus is on the girls.
Girls.
There were about 35 girls and probably 15 to 20 guys in the midafternoon. So the place was packed as one of the bar areas was closed. Really wide range from 20 to 40 yrs old with most of the girls around 25 to 32. The only thing I can say about the variety is that there was some fuckin' pussy here. Girls in sexy dresses and some were wearing lingerie. Most 6 to 8 range with one 9. Hardly any tattoo's on the girls which is a huge plus in my book. Lot's of silicone which I don't really mind..I am a Sgt in the price police. In an establishment with what you consider hot girls. 6-9 s can be attractive.
You paid less than $100 for 2 naked Hotties.
Hmmmmmmm.
Banana Boi
09-24-20, 19:37
Thanks for your report Rio. I heard Kinnaree was shutting down. Guess those were only rumors. Glad to see it's alive and well. Many of my best Thailand experiences were with Kinnaree girls. Without Kinnaree I would have never met my personal taxi driver, a retired and the hottest Kinnaree girl there was. Kinnaree is a good first G Club to go to in Pattaya. Yes Camel Toe can be scary but there are worst ones not on your list. Actually, 2 years ago Camel Toe had a really nice girl but it was so difficult to get there I barely went to visit her.
Some obvious places left off your list like LE Passion, Heaven, Kit Kat, etc. Not sure if they're still open. Same with the other Soi Full Love Inn bars and M Club. Are they all closed? Still more like Seahorse, Huntsman, etc which I never visited.
Mr Enternational
09-25-20, 00:52
Some obvious places left off your list like LE Passion, Heaven, Kit Kat, etc. Not sure if they're still open. Same with the other Soi Full Love Inn bars and M Club. Are they all closed? Still more like Seahorse, Huntsman, etc which I never visited.They are all open. I did not even know the Blue Olive was renamed Huntsman until I was in there last week and saw it on the wall.
Some obvious places left off your list like LE Passion, Heaven, Kit Kat, etc. Not sure if they're still open. Same with the other Soi Full Love Inn bars and M Club. Are they all closed? Still more like Seahorse, Huntsman, etc which I never visited.Well, I've only been living here in Pattaya for 2 1/2 months and Sea Horse and Passion are on my list. But I had my eye on 2 other girls in Kinnaree so those places may have to wait. I do need to make an amendment to my total pricing. I left off a $5 tip to the bar staff. So total cost was 103.60!
Danny Duck
09-25-20, 04:38
Backkara opening up Friday.
This must mean borders opening up soon. LOL.
I like to think big business know more than we do. They have a Hotline to the PM.
I will price this in US dollars for more clarity. Actually it would have been clearer to quote prices in Thai Baht, because a substantial part of the board members is not American. If you quote prices in THB then everybody knows immediately how much that (approximately) is in their own currency. If you quote prices in USD then they first have to convert them to their own currency and then convert the outcome to THB.
LittleBigMan
09-25-20, 12:24
I agree with the report on Kinarree, although I've been to many other GC my biggest problem is many of the others there are never really any customer plus just me but I'm not into watching some guy get his dick suck in front of others I a get a room type of guy.
The other is the pricing all the freelancers seem to know 350 for the room 1000 to the girl, I never go on food days, Wednesday, Sat and Sunday too many people and many are just cock blocking buying drinks eating and taking their time. If your bill I forget something like 1200 then the food is free. The rooms are nice but their are a few that need new mattresses many of the girls bounce around and don't Freelance all the time so if you like one get their contact otherwise you might never see them again. I've run into a few that claim they worked at What's Up, once I had eye on one from Annabelles GoGo but never got around to BF her then one day I run into her surprise because of the set pricing 1000 for ST.
I haven't been there yet after the Virus but I wouldn't be surprise they are getting lots of Freelancer I find it more enjoyable going on non food days although they have food even on off days like burgers and pull pork sandwiches you got to be really hungry to throw down 350 for a below average sandwich. This place is like a box of chocolate you never know what is going to show up.
End of the year it was reported that the land in which the house Kinarree runs was sold and a condo was to be build I was going to make a visit to find out from the owner if this was true but then the Virus shut things down I will make a trip and try to confirm the rumor and report back.
' I never go on food days, Wednesday, Sat and Sunday too many people and many are just cock blocking buying drinks eating and taking their time.up.Will have to try that. Since it was my birthday I wanted a one stop shopping experience. Fully belly, cleaned pipes, and a shit eatin' grin for two days. I do have to say the Thai chili sausage and Thai garlic sausage was frickin awesome.
This place is like a box of chocolate you never know what is going to show up.Funny thing. After I left there I went to the Chocolate Factory and had the most decadent chocolate dessert they had with a dirty vodka martini. After I ordered I could see them huddling and 2 came back over to confirm my order. LOL.
GettingFedUp
09-25-20, 18:25
I left off a $5 tip to the bar staff. So total cost was 103.60!For which you can expect a serious flaming from the "spoiling the market" brigade and a trolling from the "you Cheap Charlie" community.
From me you'll just get my thanks for the information.
Danny Duck
09-25-20, 21:37
For which you can expect a serious flaming from the "spoiling the market" brigade and a trolling from the "you Cheap Charlie" community.
From me you'll just get my thanks for the information.Not to be a nag. But 2,000 for two girls isn't exactly Charlie Sheen spending.
2,000 baht divide by 2 hot girls is 1,000 per puss.
Banana Boi
09-26-20, 04:54
I agree with the report on Kinarree, although I've been to many other GC my biggest problem is many of the others there are never really any customer <snip> I never go on food days, Wednesday, Sat and Sunday too many people and many are just cock blocking buying drinks eating and taking their time. If your bill I forget something like 1200 then the food is free. I think the only other G club that can come close to Kinnaree in having customers is LE Passion. The place can get pretty busy at times. Pirates can seem busy as well more so because it's such a tiny bar.
I actually quite enjoy the Wednesday and Saturday BBQ food at Kinnaree. It's a 1000 baht minimum on drinks and barfines for free food. Agree it can get busy but girls also know to work on free food days cause guys will show up. I'm sure Kinnaree is still the same that Mondays and Tuesdays are the slow days when most girls do not work.
For which you can expect a serious flaming from the "spoiling the market" brigade and a trolling from the "you Cheap Charlie" community.
It's your money so you can do what you want with it but imo there is just zero benefit to tipping a waitress or mamasan unless you're trying to get in to her pants. Remember tipping is not customary in Thailand.
I think the only other G club that can come close to Kinnaree in having customers is LE Passion. The place can get pretty busy at times. Pirates can seem busy as well more so because it's such a tiny bar.I never got the fervor about Kinnaree. Line up is outdated and the vibe is similar as a decade ago. The Mews nearby is more refreshing IMO. But when it comes to real cuties gogo level you can get for a thousand bahts nothing can compare with Babylon. Get there and check the likes of Sa, Ton or Lin. The latter has an awesome body you can't find in another GC. She can finish me in minutes in BJ area.
Passion also has hot ones. I didn't get there for long but I saw a group of hotties in town, only to find out they are Passion girls. I'll pay a visit soon enough.
Here is my report on my favorite Gentlemen's Club in Pattaya.
Cost.
I will price this in US dollars for more clarity.The reason it is customary to quote prices in the local currency is because exchange rates fluctuate, and your reported prices can become quickly out of date. Over the years I have exchanged USD in range of 29 to 40 to the THB. Big difference in cost depending on your timing.
SL.
I am a Sgt in the price police. In an establishment with what you consider hot girls. 6-9 s can be attractive.
You paid less than $100 for 2 naked Hotties.
Hmmmmmmm.Kinnarree is not in Jomtien it's in Pratumnak.
I have not been on here in a long time but have caught up on the posts and sheesh, things are sad in Pattaya due to CV! But as for many of us, this stupid pandemic terminated some ambitious plans I had regarding Thailand this year. I had planned a trip for April / May, and I probably would have come back again in August and certainly again in November / December (for which I still have an active hotel reservation I have not cancelled yet). My last trip to LOS was at the end of 2019 so again, like many of you, I am getting anxious to return. But I am not posting to discuss Thailand opening up again. Oh no. This forum has become boring so I am back to report on "Secret", the Soi 6 bar girl I managed to fall for last year.
For the newbies who may be interested in the story, my first post about her was on April 24,2019, post number 277798. That was before I started calling her Secret, so named as I was secretive about her real name and the bar she worked at. My last post about her, 28637, was posted a few weeks after I returned home in mid-September 2019.
Well, I think my reports were sufficiently clear to show I was trying to see if it was possible to establish a true relationship with a "special" Soi 6 bar girl. The common wisdom is to never attempt such a thing. The internet is full of horror stories, with only a smidgen of successful stories regarding farangs hoping to marry an Issan bar girl (BG). I felt Secret was special as she passed all the tests regarding how a BG out for money would behave in a variety of situations. You guys warned me but each test I gave her she passed. I did end my reporting with some words how I felt about love with a BG. My conclusions from that last post included the following verbatim:
Can real love be found with a bar girl? Apparently the answer is yes, though the story is not over. But it takes work and a lot of understanding. It may require giving her some money (just keep it real). It may also require a lot of luck a heck of a lot of luck and a friend of hers who is on your side. You will need patience, knowing Thai would help, and being fairly well off financially where you can take the girl places so she knows you can take care of her is a huge help. And number one, you need to choose your girl carefully. There are other girls on Soi 6 similar to Secret, but to weed them out takes time and luck. In my case, it was largely luck. Had things been just a bit different, I never would have gone into her bar. I guess, too, you need to appear honest, sincere, caring, reasonably attractive for your age I suppose, well mannered, funny, non- drinker or very light drinker and non-smoker helps, respectful, generous and heck, I don't know what all.
Now, should she and I actually have a relationship? That is a loaded question, but the logical response is no, we should not. But here I am, trying to live out what will be my last chance for passion in a relationship. Is having an affair, essentially, with a woman 30 years younger exciting? Yes, I suppose. Taking her on her first airplane ride, on her first trip to Phuket, on her first cruise? Yes, very exciting. Wise? I don't see how, but I think I will end the discussion here, as to say more quickly becomes unpleasant.
So, that was a year ago. What about now? Did Secret actually leave the bar as she promised to find legit work or did she stay / return to Pattaya and become a hardened bar girl? Or heck, had she actually been working as a BG for years and was playing me like fiddle?! But if she did leave Pattaya and did find legit work, did she come to dislike the long hours and low pay and come to miss the excitement and money Pattaya offered and decide to go back? Were you guys right and she was lying that entire time to me, or did I finally come to my senses and dump here before she took all my money? Where is she now, or do I even know or do I even care for that matter? Did she finally fall for me but I ran out of money so she dumped me when I could not afford an engagement ring? Did I discover she had other men sending her money and were seeing her in or outside of Pattaya, or was I truly the only one as she said? Did she get me to buy her a fancy car, pay for boob job and nose job and is now living with her Thai boyfriend in a house I built for her on the land she had a mortgage on that I paid off? Did I dump her after finding she was on Thai Friendly in Bangkok and she later begged me to take her back? Did I meet her mother who offered me her 17 year old virgin daughter if I married Secret? Or, are we in love and waiting for the pandemic to end so I can go marry her and see my baby son whom we created in Phuket last November?
I will provide answers. I will also give some suggestions and advice for those men who fall for a Bar Girl (BG) to help them discover what your "special" girl is actually up to, and how to decide if she is for real or, more likely, a fake or one simply leading you on for as long as you want to be led on. I mean, many of us manage to fall for a Thai BG and get taken as we are blinded by our love and cannot fathom the extent some of these girls will go to get your money.
So let me mention two YouTube blog sites regarding farangs, love and bar girls in Thailand. Many of you are probably familiar with the YouTube channel "Land of Smiles" blog with Simon, a former Pattaya bar manager. He tells some eye-opening stories about what Isan farm girls, corrupted by the life of a bar girl and hungry for money, can do to hapless gentlemen who just wants to find happiness with an attractive younger woman who will tell him what he wants to hear. (And the stories are hardly limited bar ladies.) His stories can take months for him to tell, but some will blow you way. There is also Mike on "Thailand Bound". He just tells the story over minutes vs. Months. Any man finding themselves falling for a bar girl should listen to some of these stories by Mike and Simon. Even if you think your particular girl "is different", you can hear actual stories where the man thought the same thing but ended up getting crushed in multiple and very creative ways! Hearing stories from both after I last left Pattaya has caused a few uncomfortable moments where I have to stop and think if Secret was acting like some of those deceitful girls. Fortunately, I do have a logical mind that generally self-limits my stupidity, and you may read of some that in my stories. But despite the doom and gloom predictions of falling for a BG, there is that rare exception. And for sure, there is one story Simon tells where you think the girl is pure evil but, in the end, things proved to be quite different. I was fighting back the tears watching it. Was Secret like that woman and I had tears of happiness for sticking with her? Or were my tears because she wasn't and my heart still breaks?
Before I start, let me provide some preliminary advice that has guided me along this journey. As I said in my original reports, "Actions speak louder than words. " FL Hawk's corollary to that is "If she acts like a BG, she is a BG. " If you fall for a BG, ALWAYS ask yourself if she is acting like a BG or more like a girlfriend (GF) or, at least, acting like how a potential or future girlfriend would act. Trust but verify. Keep a record of your interactions so, in a moment of sanity, you can go back and read them with a fresh mind. I use this forum to document original encounters. If you do that and find later that your original description of her is horrifying to you, take heed. That could be who she actually is, especially if she is still acting like that (as a BG). I saved the vast majority of my Line texts I had Secret, which has been helpful to remember things (in case she tries to change a story on you months later). And of course, watch what you spend. Think of money you spend on her as entertainment. Never spend more than you can afford to lose. I sometimes spent a little just to keep things going or see what might happen. Some might call it gambling. Think of the odds of success when you give out money and always make sure you are left with enough funds at the end so you could do it all over again. The worst would be win her then get dumped when she finds you have spent all the money!
Anyway, with that bit of preliminary advice and some background, I am ready to proceed with the rest of the Secret story. I will say I have a number of stories to tell that I think will prove entertaining. I am kind of amazed looking back. I do think it may be fun to first hear from you guys about what you think happened, or is happening. Please feel free to state your predictions based on what has happened thus far, and I will invite updated predictions along the way.
Greetings from paradise .
Happy Mid Autumn Festival
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I have not been on here in a long time.You remind me of my buddy, falls in love too easily. He comes out of the room and tells how lovey his girl was, how she kissed and let him hold her. Half hour later I take her in the room and come out to tell him it was a porn star experience and she put her finger up my arse. They play the game whichever way its needed to be played in order to get the money. This board isn't for love stories, its for girls sticking their fingers where they don't belong. Pattaya is sin city not the love boat. You want the love boat find a province girl. Its like the college athlete going pro, putting his name in the NFL draft. Once you turn pro you always a pro. Can't go back to college and be the star on that football team anymore. Pattaya has a 'CLOSED' sign on it right now and it won't reopen until the weekend millionaires get back on the ground. Sad to say but this pandemic has created so many starving and desperate girls willing to do anything to provide food for their family, way more than the normal amount.
HorseTrader
10-05-20, 03:23
...Please feel free to state your predictions based on what has happened thus far, and I will invite updated predictions along the way.I'll make a prediction. If you haven't broken up yet, you will before the 3 year mark. 1-year is a short time for converting a BG to a reasonable lover for a western man. I do wish you the best of success with Secret.
I have one friend that married an Isaan BG and brought her to USA. After 1 year getting a fiance visa and 2 years of wedded bliss, he took her back to Isaan to visit her family. She got the itch for strange cock, got caught with a Thai man, and my friend left her ass at grandmother's rice farm. Divorced her in USA on the grounds of desertion.
I still talk to a past Thai girlfriend, high class girl (Thai real estate owner, USA real estate owner, former Thai government employee, now 20+ years USA citizen). She is now happily married to a wealthy American. She not only warns me about falling for a BG, but she warns me about any Isaan girl who works in the tourism industry (hotels, airport, restaurants, massage, tour guides, etc.). She encourages me to have all the fun I want with Thai girls in the tourism industry, but never try to have a relationship with any of them.
Good luck.
HorseTrader
10-05-20, 03:28
You remind me of my buddy, falls in love too easily. He comes out of the room and tells how lovey his girl was, how she kissed and let him hold her.555 I do the same thing. But after ST together, I toss her out of my hotel and rest so I can do it again the next day. I must admit that I sent a few thousand baht to a couple of girls at the beginning of COVID, but stopped doing it as soon as they had a chance to get back to their home villages and live with family.
Banana Boi
10-05-20, 05:38
One way to test out any bargirl is to have a buddy she has never seen you with test her out. This may be difficult for some of you self proclaimed good looking guys but try to get a guy better looking and younger than you. Don't get guys with a comb over like myself. Have your buddy see her for as many sessions as you did and pay her/buy her things/make the same promises as you did and see what her reaction is. I will almost bet the farm her reaction to your buddy will be the same reaction you get.
FL, hope things work out with you and Secret. You know me. I'm always super skeptical about these things.
One way to test out any bargirl is to have a buddy she has never seen you with test her out. The easiest way to test a girl, any girl, is to take her to a social event with people of all backgrounds present. If the only girls who talk to her or she can hold a conversation with are money hungry harlots then run. If decent girls speak to her and she naturally gravitates to them, then she is a keeper.
Any girl can fool foreigners but other Thais will have her sussed 5 seconds after she enters the room and will act accordingly.
Enjoy. G.
You remind me of my buddy, falls in love too easily.... Pattaya is sin city not the love boat. .Its a bit long winded but he has got me hooked on his story. I know two girls that left working in Pattaya and went back to work in factories in Bang Bo and Samut Prakan 12 hours a day 6 days a week and its not because they were ugly it was because they didn't like the work. I think they thought they would come to Pattaya and get hooked up with a foreigner fast. I have seen girls go off to Italy or Norway with guys and they are usually back in a year or so. One hasn't come back though and man was she good. Still think about her. If any of you remember Malee from Ruby club. She seems to have made a go of it with a guy from the UK and good for both of them. Agree with you for the most part though.
Mr Enternational
10-05-20, 13:56
Any girl can fool foreigners but other Thais will have her sussed 5 seconds after she enters the room and will act accordingly.There are no girls fooling foreigners. There are only foreigners fooling themselves. What you said holds in many many countries. Foreigner travels around the globe. Finds a hooker that he likes and decides to do nice things with her like go to a nice restaurant for dinner. He considers himself as stylin and profilin while all the locals in the vicinity are wondering what that guy is doing in a fine establishment like this with that hooker.
Back in February me and my girlfriend were driving around Brazil and stopped in a nice restaurant in a minor city. There was a 70 year old local man with like a 25 year old chick and my girlfriend whispered to me look at that guy with that hooker. We have a tendency to fantasize and romanticize, when to others (especially locals) it is as plain as day.
Besides, if you are paying barfines and shelling out money to this chick really what other proof do you need? You don't need any freakin tests. It is like the waking up a man pretending to be sleep saying. You know what you have yourself into. Why act like that is not what it is?
We have heard it all too many times: My hooker is different. Show up without money to see how different your hooker really is. If there is no more play when there is no more pay, then how was that different? You just have a regular old hooker like all the rest of the regular old hookers. Now excuse me while I go out to drive my Ferrari that everyone else in my neighborhood for some reason sees as just a normal Toyota.
I do think it may be fun to first hear from you guys about what you think happened, or is happening. Please feel free to state your predictions based on what has happened thus far, and I will invite updated predictions along the way.I think you're still in a relationship with her and she probably did put some effort for you.
But I don't think that relationship would go anywhere far, except maybe if she considers you like a friend with benefit and has learned to respect you, but not like a boyfriend.
...............I still talk to a past Thai girlfriend, high class girl (Thai real estate owner, USA real estate owner, former Thai government employee, now 20+ years USA citizen). She is now happily married to a wealthy American. She not only warns me about falling for a BG, but she warns me about any Isaan girl who works in the tourism industry (hotels, airport, restaurants, massage, tour guides, etc.). She encourages me to have all the fun I want with Thai girls in the tourism industry, but never try to have a relationship with any of them.
Good luck.In my last trip to Thailand in 2015 I hooked up with a girl I met online who was a tour guide. I rate her as a 7. She was the perfect companion, if she was a 9 or 10 I believe I would have married her.
GettingFedUp
10-05-20, 16:58
In my last trip to Thailand in 2015 I hooked up with a girl I met online who was a tour guide. I rate her as a 7. She was the perfect companion, if she was a 9 or 10 I believe I would have married her.And her Thai husband and both their extended families would have been far wealthier.
HorseTrader
10-05-20, 17:26
In my last trip to Thailand in 2015 I hooked up with a girl I met online who was a tour guide. I rate her as a 7. She was the perfect companion, if she was a 9 or 10 I believe I would have married her.
And her Thai husband and both their extended families would have been far wealthier.Yep, that happened with one of my friends. He married a Thai woman (without papers), then her Thai husband (and friends) showed up and encouraged my friend to leave Thailand without his valuables.
Anyway, with that bit of preliminary advice and some background, I am ready to proceed with the rest of the Secret story. I will say I have a number of stories to tell that I think will prove entertaining. I am kind of amazed looking back. I do think it may be fun to first hear from you guys about what you think happened, or is happening. Please feel free to state your predictions based on what has happened thus far, and I will invite updated predictions along the way.We're roughly the same age and we both seem to have boundless energy. Here's hoping that your tale has a happy ending.
I do think it may be fun to first hear from you guys about what you think happened, or is happening. Please feel free to state your predictions based on what has happened thus far, and I will invite updated predictions along the way.My guess is you are still communicating with her and sending very modest sums of cash to her. Just guessing here that you are still trying to find out if she is the one or not. Is she playing you? Probably a little bit but she my not be sure about what she wants either.
Many of us who have traveled to LOS have been through this dilemma. In most cases our relationships don't get as far along as you have. We just drop her and move on to the next one. Is that coming to our senses? Probably. Good luck FL Hawk you deserve the best.
Danny Duck
10-06-20, 01:14
We're roughly the same age and we both seem to have boundless energy. Here's hoping that your tale has a happy ending.If I recall Hawk is one old fella while the Girl isn't.
Pimpampoumpipo
10-06-20, 11:58
Please feel free to state your predictions based on what has happened thus far, and I will invite updated predictions along the way."You can be at their feet. On their knees. But never in their hands. ".
Talleyrand (1754 - 1838).
My guess is you are still communicating with her and sending very modest sums of cash to her. Just guessing here that you are still trying to find out if she is the one or not. Is she playing you? Probably a little bit but she my not be sure about what she wants either.
Many of us who have traveled to LOS have been through this dilemma. In most cases our relationships don't get as far along as you have. We just drop her and move on to the next one. Is that coming to our senses? Probably. Good luck FL Hawk you deserve the best.Giving many different women cash for sex is very enjoyable but there comes a time in a man's life when he must settle down. Dying alone is not nice. Marrying an American woman is not an option.
Ass Addict
10-06-20, 16:09
Dying alone is not nice.It's still better than living with someone who wants you to die.
HorseTrader
10-06-20, 17:30
Giving many different women cash for sex is very enjoyable but there comes a time in a man's life when he must settle down. Dying alone is not nice. Marrying an American woman is not an option.That is exactly my position. The American born women are not what I want and there are too few available Asian born women in America. I don't want to live in Asia and bringing an Asian woman to USA has proven dangers. I may be destined to travel to Thailand as long as I can fuck and then die alone.
Jimmy Boy 99
10-06-20, 17:41
"You can be at their feet. On their knees. But never in their hands. ".
Talleyrand (1754 - 1838).The quote is actually "You can be at their feet. Their knees. But not in their hands. ".
DzikaBomba
10-06-20, 17:52
Dying alone is not nice.Every human being on this planet was born alone (besides twins) and will die alone!
Every! You can not change this!
Mr Enternational
10-06-20, 18:05
there are too few available Asian born women in America. bringing an Asian woman to USA has proven dangers.So what is the difference in an Asian born woman bringing herself or some other person bringing her to the USA or you bringing her to the USA yourself? Either way it is an Asian born woman in the USA, which you want but don't want? This is confusing as fuck. So you want her there as long as you don't have to help get her there?
Mr Enternational
10-06-20, 18:10
The quote is actually "You can be at their feet. Their knees. But not in their hands. ".Well I searched for both and could not find either. Care to explain what it is supposed to mean?
So what is the difference in an Asian born woman bringing herself or some other person bringing her to the USA or you bringing her to the USA yourself? Either way it is an Asian born woman in the USA, which you want but don't want? This is confusing as fuck. So you want her there as long as you don't have to help get her there?I thought that it was rather obvious what he meant, he want Asian women but don't want to be the one bringing them to the US given all the time and problems that would arise. Not all confusing to me. He could move to Sweden, it's full of Thai ladies.
Beijing4987
10-06-20, 19:00
If one marries a foreigner you may be responsible for them for 10 years. The US government in this case would have a lien on your property. Anyone willing to fact check this? A lawyer told this to my friend who was enamored with a Brazilian woman.
Member #4698
10-06-20, 19:23
If one marries a foreigner you may be responsible for them for 10 years. The US government in this case would have a lien on your property. Anyone willing to fact check this? A lawyer told this to my friend who was enamored with a Brazilian woman.A guy has to be out of his god damn mind to even contemplate marrying one of these girls. I don't care how nice they are or how much "love" you think there is in the relationship. Love them, live with them, support them if you like for however long the relationship stays fresh, but marriage eventually becomes a prison and potentially financial suicide UNLESS you have a prenup, but if you went to all the trouble of getting a prenup, why fall for a marriage game in the first place. It's crazy. Live Free! Nothing lasts forever.
HorseTrader
10-06-20, 20:14
So what is the difference in an Asian born woman bringing herself or some other person bringing her to the USA or you bringing her to the USA yourself? Either way it is an Asian born woman in the USA, which you want but don't want? This is confusing as fuck. So you want her there as long as you don't have to help get her there?
I thought that it was rather obvious what he meant, he want Asian women but don't want to be the one bringing them to the US given all the time and problems that would arise. Not all confusing to me. He could move to Sweden, it's full of Thai ladies.ShooBree is exactly right.
It is also impossible to live in different hemispheres and get to know each other well enough for marriage. A couple months of holiday visits isn't the same thing as living together. And make no mistake, the fiancée visa is the only workable way for most of us to bring an Asian woman to America.
As was pointed out by Beijing4987 and Natty Bumpo, if you bring a woman to USA you have certain financial responsibilities and you absolutely need a prenup. When time comes to enforce the prenup (when, not if), it might be impossible to convince a court that a Thai woman even understood the prenup when she signed it before moving to America.
HorseTrader
10-06-20, 20:19
A guy has to be out of his god damn mind to even contemplate marrying one of these girls....If you mean P4P girls, I agree. But, Thailand has many good women that farang punters seldom meet.
If one marries a foreigner you may be responsible for them for 10 years. The US government in this case would have a lien on your property. Anyone willing to fact check this? A lawyer told this to my friend who was enamored with a Brazilian woman.I did a lot of research on this a couple of decades ago and, at that time, the deal was if you were the person arranging for a fiance visa and the lady stayed in the USA either as your wife or never married you or anyone else, you were on the hook for any costs to the state or federal government for her (or his) medical bills, housing, food, support, whatever. The USA Government was not interested in somebody being brought to the country and plopped down on the street for other taxpayers to foot the bills to support until they either became a U.S. citizen or get deported.
And I don't recall there being any 10 year time limit on your financial responsibilities in those days. It stretched until and if she became a USA Citizen. Then she was on her own in terms of financial responsibility.
If she didn't marry you but married someone else in the USA, "tag", he was now IT and assumed the responsibility until and if she became a USA Citizen.
Again, that was a couple of decades ago. Maybe it has changed since then. But I would proceed as though that is the way it still is unless I see it spelled out otherwise in clear and plain language on those visa sponsor forms I would be signing.
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