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Danny Duck
01-22-21, 03:30
I've not seen that behavior often.
20 years ago you rarely saw Japanese punters in GoGos. A few in Rainbow. They all went to Soi Thaniya to clubs westerns were not allowed in, unless with a Japanese dude, and then only some clubs.Japanese dudes don't get drunk. Pay well and are polite.
Why you think they are Preferred Status customers.
Farang also pay but lacking in the other two categories I mentioned.
I've not seen that behavior often.
20 years ago you rarely saw Japanese punters in GoGos. A few in Rainbow. They all went to Soi Thaniya to clubs westerns were not allowed in, unless with a Japanese dude, and then only some clubs.They don't even allow that behavior in Soi Thaniya clubs. One can touch but with limits so I think your observation is right.
You will find Japanese in most of the Go-Go's in Bangkok; Soi Cowboy especially. In fact, Baccara on Soi Cowboy is almost all Japanese at some times. I imagine Bangkok is popular if they are in town for "business", LOL. Just my input.Goatscrot is talking about 20 year ago, not now.
I thought some readers might find this useful. I am in my fourth week out of quarantine here in Pattaya and am using one of the main dating sites for the first time as all the bars and gogos are closed and Beach Road is deserted. Even though I am overweight, balding, ugly and in my mid-60's, I have over 60 girls / women who have contacted me offering to do short time for prices between 1,000 and 1,500 baht. Some of those contacting me haven't been too attractive and many have lied about their age and used photos from several years ago. But some of those girls aged 18 to 25 have been wonderful.Which dating websites are you using, thai friendly? Are the postings in english or Thai?
Crazy4Thai
01-23-21, 15:35
Not sure where this conversation belongs but was curious about what it takes to move to Thailand for a couple of months. Explorer8939 and others who have done this, are you able to share the process that you went through and any suggestions. (If this has already been covered here, my apologies.).This would be better posted to General rather than Pattaya. In the time of covid there are numerous challenging steps. Rather than try to cover them all follow this link and you will see most of the required topics at least mentioned. With research you could find all details on that website.
https://forum.thaivisa.com/topic/1202386-visa-exempt-from-usa-currently-not-possible/?utm_source=newsletter-20210121-0548&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=news
Danny Duck
01-23-21, 18:58
Don't forget smaller dick size and that they want girls to get on top bop up and down for a few minutes until they finish. Farang want full GFE. Plain and simple its more money for less work / effort.No argument from me.
One thing that turns off Girls is a guy wanting GFE from the get go. If it happens it happens. It's more of a Chemistry thing.
I've paid 3000 baht and knew from first Hello, it wasn't going to happen.
Other times you think oops picked the wrong one and was highly dumbfounded- wow, that was worth the 3000 baht.
Some background I'm a 63 year old white man from the usa with below average looks.
This is my list of favorite destinations if I was in my 30 or 40 s the list would be different.
This list is the total package accommodation, food the price of beer and price of entertainment.
In the last 3 years I have been to all the places on my list.
1. Mtwapa (2 visit).
Meet girls online, beach, on the street everyway also girlie pickup bars food is so cheap here.
The dollars is strong here.
2 kampala (1 visit).
Meet girls on line some great clubs where you can meet non working girls also they have girlie.
Pickup bars cheapest place to drink beer that I've been the dollars is very strong here the best value for.
A all night visit.
3 nairobi (3 visit).
Meet girls one line a lot of clubs to meet normal girls and oh course black diamond to meet working girl.
K1 is a good place to meet women also pro and non pro since its a big city kinda expensive.
4 cebu (10 visit).
Really focus on the dating sites so many women also can meet at the mall some girlie go go.
Bars but a waste of time. Also they have some nice disco to go but be carefull of the lady boys.
It s easy to get around cebu the the air con taxi are very cheap for a western the dollars is ok here.
5 angeles city (15 visit).
If I was in my 30 or 40 it may be at the top of my list around 100 girlie go go bars you pick a girl on the stage.
Agree on the terms off you go 20 years ago good value now the price and gone up so much.
Also a lot of expats live in angles so whatever country you are from you can find someone from your country.
6 montego bay jamacia (6 visits).
Meet girls on line a couple of good clubs you can meet non pro girls also you can meet some girls at he beach.
Its close to the states so I never have jet lag can hit the ground running only place I don't drink beer the rum is.
Good and cheap I don't really like the beer red stripe also the dollars is very strong here hotels are over priced.
7 pattaya (2 visits).
So many bars and massage parlors like being a kid in a candy store the best value is soi 6 the cheapest place.
To get a nice clean hotel in my travels the only english the thai women know is shorttimes ehheheh the price of.
Enterainment is high for short time nice to see the girls in the bar dancing in the nude the dollars value not to good.
8 Bangkok (2 visit) it s ok for a short time to visit a lot of streetwalkers some nice girlie go go bars but to many lady.
Boys Nana plaza is ok and soi cowboy is ok dollars is very weak here.
9 manila (10 visit) if you like big crowded cities whit awful tracffic its the place for you.
Meet girls at the mall and online or go to la cafe a huge pickup place.
On my list of place to go is Bali and the unkraine and south africa.
LittleBigMan
01-24-21, 01:54
Don't forget smaller dick size and that they want girls to get on top bop up and down for a few minutes until they finish. Farang want full GFE. Plain and simple its more money for less work / effort.Here we go again with Stupidity! Even in Covid times! Proceed to the Big Dick Last longer Thread and post your trophy.
Crocodilexp
01-24-21, 10:08
Some background I'm a 63 year old white man from the usa with below average looks.
This is my list of favorite destinations if I was in my 30 or 40 s the list would be different.
Why are you posting the exact same thing it multiple places? Sure, it's a list of all the places you've been that have any mongering worth a mention, but not especially relevant to either Bangkok or Pattaya nor insightful.
Some background I'm a 63 year old white man from the usa with below average looks.
This is my list of favorite destinations if I was in my 30 or 40 s the list would be different.
This list is the total package accommodation, food the price of beer and price of entertainment.
In the last 3 years I have been to all the places on my list.Interesting list. I've never visited Africa or Ukraine but would like to go there. If I were to make up a list, safety would be a consideration. I have never felt unsafe in Thailand or most of Asia for that matter. Manila alone at night is sketchy in many areas. If 7-11's need armed guards, I question an area's safety. What about places like Mtwapa? I saw a youtube video about Mtwapa by a guy named Marwa who mentioned Mtwapa is dangerous.
Mr Enternational
01-24-21, 21:28
If 7-11's need armed guards, I question an area's safety. It may not be that they need armed guards, but people need jobs, so they may be required to have a guard.
In some buildings in Brazil they have someone inside the elevator to push the buttons. Do they seriously NEED someone in there doing that?
GinAndTonic555
01-25-21, 07:20
Thailand is difficult to get into. And Pattaya is in lockdown with all entertainment places closed till end January at least. But dating sites are doing great business. I'm in my third week out of quarantine and am working my way through the 40 or so girls on one dating website who nave contacted me offering 'short time'. My observation is that those over 27 or 28 tend to lie about their age and use photos from several years ago. But those between 18 and say 25 have no need to lie and mostly use recent photos.
My other observation for what it's worth is that Covid-19 is going to wreck the gogo bar business. After all, if you can get a cutie from a dating website for 1,000 to 1,500 baht, who will want to pay for lady drinks and barfines? Moreover, one lovely 24-year-old I just had told me she could get 5 customers a day from dating websites. So there's no need for girls like her to hang around Beach Road for hours or work in gogos or Soi 6 till 2 or 3 in the morning.
But maybe after Covid-19 has passed a mass invasion of Chinese and Indian gentlemen will save the gogo bar business? Who knows?I've had countless 18-25 yos from dating sites come over and be 10 years older, way fatter, or even not the same girl. I only look in the 18-25 range as do many mongers. Girls figured this out and realize when they put younger ages they get more attention. Also nearly every girl is using the best possible pictures and rarely looks as good in person. I use online but its way better to be able to see a girl in person.
Not much going on.Presume this is a joke? Not much going on. Dating websites never been so busy. Girls willing to come round for 1000 baht. Weather perfect. No lockdown. Just bars closed. Love it here.
Prattaya66
01-25-21, 14:41
I'm in my fifth week out of quarantine and simply cannot cope with all the girls offering me short time on a well-known dating website. After a few disastrous mistakes, I have now found about 8 to 10 beautiful cuties and simply can't find the time and energy to serve them all. After all, I am in my mid-60's and now quite the young stag I used to be. So, although all the bars and gogos are closed till probably the beginning of February, there is still plenty of pleasure to be found, at very reasonable prices (1,000 to 1,500 baht), if you know where to look for it.
No argument from me.
One thing that turns off Girls is a guy wanting GFE from the get go. If it happens it happens. It's more of a Chemistry thing.
I've paid 3000 baht and knew from first Hello, it wasn't going to happen.
Other times you think oops picked the wrong one and was highly dumbfounded- wow, that was worth the 3000 baht.For me GFE is not something I can demand, it is something I must earn. Fake GFE does nothing for me. Also PSE does nothing for me, shouting and screaming during sex is a turn off. I rather a girl whimper with delight than shout "Yes baby!! Fuck me baby!!".
Member #4698
01-25-21, 17:25
<snip> shouting and screaming during sex is a turn off. I rather a girl whimper with delight than shout "Yes baby!! Fuck me baby!!".Yeah, I can do without the vocals. The girls most guilty of "oh baby," "fuck me baby," "Oh fuck" are lovely little Filipinas. I guess is the fault of having a common language. I do not get the the vocals near as much with Thai, Indo, Viet and Chinese girls and most Filipinas are quiet, but 1 out of 10 is a pretty big number compared to other girls. Oh well, Filipinas are great at GFE. I still love them.
Why are you posting the exact same thing it multiple places? Sure, it's a list of all the places you've been that have any mongering worth a mention, but not especially relevant to either Bangkok or Pattaya nor insightful.Well its just observation some people have thank me for posting and I beg to disagree I think its very insightful heheheeh hlol.
Banana Boi
01-25-21, 18:42
Hate fake moaning and dirty talk. Just as bad are the squeals you get from Japanese girls. Picked up a few hot girls in Japan last Summer only to be very disappointed in the room with their Minnie Mouse squealing. Japanese men do have some weird preferences if this is what the girls have been conditioned to do.
Mr Enternational
01-25-21, 19:04
Yeah, I can do without the vocals. The girls most guilty of "oh baby," "fuck me baby," "Oh fuck" are lovely little Filipinas. I guess is the fault of having a common language. I do not get the the vocals near as much with Thai, Indo, Viet and Chinese girls and most Filipinas are quiet, but 1 out of 10 is a pretty big number compared to other girls. Oh well, Filipinas are great at GFE. I still love them.It has nothing to do with language. It has everything to do with watching porno movies and mimicking. The same as men wanting to do this that and the other simply because they see it in the same pornos. The porno actors have to get into all kinds of uncomfortable positions so the camera can see. Real people have no need for that, but because they saw it on the film it seems like a good thing to try.
There is some story about a lady always cooking a bird in a pan that seemed too small to fit the bird. The daughter asked her mom why she uses a pan like that. She said that is the way her mother did it. So the girl asked the grandmother why use such a small pan for such a big bird. The grandmother said because she could not afford a bigger pan. So the lady was only mimicking what she saw her mom doing not knowing the real reason for it.
Same with everybody starting to shave their pubes since that was seen in porno movies. Everybody wanting to cum in a chick's mouth or on her face because that is what they saw. Everybody wanting to watch lesbians get it on because that is what they saw. The list goes on.
In a real movie you have all types of sound from things going on from A to Z: doors creaking, trucks driving by. This shit keeps our attention and keeps us tuned in. Turn down the sound to a porno movie and watch how fast you fall asleep. They gotta make sounds and say shit to keep some kind of interest in the show. Fucking is just an ordinary bodily function. Without the oooh ahhh give it to me daddy it would just be like watching somebody sitting there breathing or on the toilet taking a shit.
As BB alluded to, Japanese chicks make the noises that are heard in Japanese pornos. Brazilians make the noises heard in Brazilian pornos. But this is mainly a hooker thing. I rarely find non-hookers doing this shit in any culture.
Danny Duck
01-25-21, 23:53
I'm in my fifth week out of quarantine and simply cannot cope with all the girls offering me short time on a well-known dating website. After a few disastrous mistakes, I have now found about 8 to 10 beautiful cuties and simply can't find the time and energy to serve them all. After all, I am in my mid-60's and now quite the young stag I used to be. So, although all the bars and gogos are closed till probably the beginning of February, there is still plenty of pleasure to be found, at very reasonable prices (1,000 to 1,500 baht), if you know where to look for it.You looking in the wrong places. There are 500 baht girls but you really really really need to know where to look.
Franciscass
01-26-21, 03:55
Hate fake moaning and dirty talk. Just as bad are the squeals you get from Japanese girls. Picked up a few hot girls in Japan last Summer only to be very disappointed in the room with their Minnie Mouse squealing. Japanese men do have some weird preferences if this is what the girls have been conditioned to do.The gratuitous high octave theatrical moaning is as suggested by many a turn off but personally I admit to being fond of a little audio especially while giving head. Trying to differentiate what is just a part of her routine from a genuine sensual feeling umm who who's but when it's accompanied by some subtle but pronounced physical movement of her legs and hips I content myself with, I still got it, she really likes it. I know sad old fart.
Minnie Mouse squealing or not I love Japanese girls.
Franciscass
01-27-21, 00:50
So Biden is opening up the USA. As many predicted would happen.
All Political.
Is Thailand on the verge of Opening up. LOL. Starting to get worried about my $25,000 on deposit at Bangkok Bank.
One year no activity.
Maybe they think I Die and take my money.They won't take your money but some banks start charging a nominal maintenance fee for inactive accounts. Best check with your bank.
Crocodilexp
01-27-21, 05:48
You looking in the wrong places. There are 500 baht girls but you really really really need to know where to look.Tell us the secret. Where to look?
They won't take your money but some banks start charging a nominal maintenance fee for inactive accounts. Best check with your bank.And send a few baht to a worthy gal, opps, cause.
LittleBigMan
01-27-21, 11:46
So Biden is opening up the USA. As many predicted would happen.
All Political.
Is Thailand on the verge of Opening up. LOL. Starting to get worried about my $25,000 on deposit at Bangkok Bank.
One year no activity.
Maybe they think I Die and take my money.You can easily use Transferwise and put in a few thousand baht to have some peace of mind.
You can easily use Transferwise and put in a few thousand baht to have some peace of mind.I had BKK bank close my account but just a few thou in there. After 6 months no use, when I went round to complain I got no satisfaction. They all couldn't understand me.
The gratuitous high octave theatrical moaning is as suggested by many a turn off but personally I admit to being fond of a little audio especially while giving head. Trying to differentiate what is just a part of her routine from a genuine sensual feeling umm who who's but when it's accompanied by some subtle but pronounced physical movement of her legs and hips I content myself with, I still got it, she really likes it. I know sad old fart.
Minnie Mouse squealing or not I love Japanese girls.Only once in my life so far have I ever got a screamer while she received head. I was a twenty something year old in a rental apartment. She was a non pro I picked up in a club. When we got to my place she specifically requested DATY which I obliged. She screamed so loud that the landlady and her daughters who lived in the same building refused to ever speak with me afterwards. Fellow male tenants gave me high fives.
I have not done DATY since getting back in March; don't trust these hookers.
So Biden is opening up the USA. As many predicted would happen.
All Political.
Is Thailand on the verge of Opening up. LOL. Starting to get worried about my $25,000 on deposit at Bangkok Bank.
One year no activity.
Maybe they think I Die and take my money.From "Pattaya One News" this morning: "Tourists are expected to soon start flocking back to Pattaya amid a far brighter Covid-19 outlook and with the mandatory 14-day quarantine no longer being enforced. The association president added that the province's lifting of the mandatory 14-day quarantine period for visitors to Pattaya offered some hope to the tourism sector.
Businesses in Pattaya and the local office of the Tourism Authority of Thailand were working together to promote the city's tourism, especially during the Songkran Festival in April this year when the pandemic is expected to significantly recede, he said.
Pattaya would also be re- branded with a focus on daytime activities, said Mr Phisut.
Meanwhile, Chon Buri governor Pakarathorn Thianchai said he had informed the Centre for Covid-19 Situation Administration (CCSA) of the province's recent zero case status.
Therefore, the easing of re- strictions in Chon Buri can be expected soon, he said. ".
From "Pattaya One News" this morning: "Tourists are expected to soon start flocking back to Pattaya amid a far brighter Covid-19 outlook and with the mandatory 14-day quarantine no longer being enforced. The association president added that the province's lifting of the mandatory 14-day quarantine period for visitors to Pattaya offered some hope to the tourism sector.I wonder what they mean by soon. But this is a fluff piece with no foundation. I have seen nothing from the government that there will be any easing of the entry requirements any time soon, quarantine will continue and vaccinations probably won't start before the second half of the year. I would like to see some sign that I could return this year but I don't see one so far.
LittleBigMan
01-28-21, 11:10
Until you see it in print and announced it officially I wouldn't read too much into it! Three days ago it was reported by a leading Thai researcher that it is too early to allow those into Thailand even if they had the vaccine since there isn't enough data yet which I agree to early Thailand likes to follow as soon as reports start to come out from the outside the vaccine is starting to work and the numbers are reducing it might happen when is anyone guesses? But it was still suggested that the 14-day quarantine still be required.
This article is nothing official just an opinion and suggestion from someone in charge of the TAT, who is suggesting that they allow anyone in that has a vaccine passport it would help with the tourist arriving and help save the economy. These guys who get up daily and make a statement have no actual power to make the decision final but in this case, I'm at least glad it was brought up. Even if it is accepted the suggestion points toward the 3rd quarter of this year which will make it just before the high season? It is anyone's guess some officials think it can be done by Songkran?
They have approved the AstraZ, particularly for private hospitals to purchase on their own based on everything my feeling is if a vaccine passport is approved in Thailand it would be that vaccine since the K--g company will be producing it.
As for Chon Buri and Pattaya there is a report that he is easing the restriction and as early as Saturday bars etc should be allowed to open but restriction still in place restaurant will be allowed to open until 11 pm same with bars? If true not much fun if you got to stop drinking and eating by 11 pm. Today on the Darkside I noticed all the massage shops were opened cleaning getting ready for their customers same for the gyms and martial arts studios. It is all a crap shoot?
LittleBigMan
01-28-21, 11:27
I had BKK bank close my account but just a few thou in there. After 6 months no use, when I went round to complain I got no satisfaction. They all couldn't understand me.My suggestion to Danny Duck was to use Transferwise to keep his account active, actually not sure if he is just joking but from what he has written in the past he doesn't have just a few thousand but has 800,000 baht being held use for Immigration Extension? He can also sign up online to monitor his account?
From my own experience, I have a number of Bangkok Bank accounts my original book once has a few million since I've open other accounts and had money from the original put into other accounts. A few years back I had even forgotten I had this account it only had 2-3 thousand baht prior I never saw them take anything out for service charge? One day while updating my other books using the machine outside the bank after the update I noticed interest thereafter a tax on that interest followed by a 250 baht charge was taken out each month for service charge until they couldn't take 250 any longer thereafter it was 50 baht until it was zero. I believe some point back they decided if it dropped to a particular level they would start charging, to be honest, I noticed this only to be for foreigners.
I have one other book it has been sitting at 5000 baht for a year I've not noticed any deduction for maintenance yet it was just updated and got taxed on the interest. I ask my wife and son with their books you get any tax taken out for your interest when I look NO!
I think with the amount of DD account it won't be closed but I did offer if he was scared he was going to lose it give me a PM?
From "Pattaya One News" this morning: "Tourists are expected to soon start flocking back to Pattaya amid a far brighter Covid-19 outlook and with the mandatory 14-day quarantine no longer being enforced. The association president added that the province's lifting of the mandatory 14-day quarantine period for visitors to Pattaya offered some hope to the tourism sector.
Businesses in Pattaya and the local office of the Tourism Authority of Thailand were working together to promote the city's tourism, especially during the Songkran Festival in April this year when the pandemic is expected to significantly recede, he said.
Pattaya would also be re- branded with a focus on daytime activities, said Mr Phisut.
Meanwhile, Chon Buri governor Pakarathorn Thianchai said he had informed the Centre for Covid-19 Situation Administration (CCSA) of the province's recent zero case status.
Therefore, the easing of re- strictions in Chon Buri can be expected soon, he said..In reality rolls Royce aero division don't expect any pickup for 5 years so don't get too excited. Keep ya feet on the ground.
RR monitor aero engines in flight so they have a good idea what's going on.
My last good time there was the day before they closed the bars.
I was in Phuket before and heading home bc of covid worries. I got to pattaya about 2 in the afternoon. Went to hotel in Nakula, I like that area. After checking in I went to soi 6 and right off the bat I found a beauty. Bought her a drink to meet her a bit then upstairs. She was early 20's with no baby damage and good body. It was a fun 30 minutes. I paid 300 baht and either 1200 or 1000 to girl.
Usually I am not up for a second round soon but it had been a while. I found a second girl a bit later but she was not very memorable. .
After that I just walked about visiting beer bars. There was a kind of sleezy gogo bar in soi 7 or 8 that I liked so went there.
And I played various games with bar girls the rest of the night.
Anyway nothing new here, I just miss Thailand and wanted to post something about why pattaya was so much fun.
GettingFedUp
01-30-21, 07:05
From "Pattaya One News" this morning: "Tourists are expected to soon start flocking back to Pattaya amid a far brighter Covid-19 outlook and with the mandatory 14-day quarantine no longer being enforced. The association president added that the province's lifting of the mandatory 14-day quarantine period for visitors to Pattaya offered some hope to the tourism sector.
Businesses in Pattaya and the local office of the Tourism Authority of Thailand were working together to promote the city's tourism, especially during the Songkran Festival in April this year when the pandemic is expected to significantly recede, he said.
Pattaya would also be re- branded with a focus on daytime activities, said Mr Phisut.
Meanwhile, Chon Buri governor Pakarathorn Thianchai said he had informed the Centre for Covid-19 Situation Administration (CCSA) of the province's recent zero case status.
Therefore, the easing of re- strictions in Chon Buri can be expected soon, he said. ".Just to clarify. The article is about Domestic Tourists (ie from elsewhere in Thailand). Some provinces had imposed 14 day self isolation for anyone arriving from "red zone" provinces which included Chonburi along with Samut Sakhon, Bangkok, Nonthaburi, Samut Prakan, etc.
The article is NOT referring to the requirement for arrivals from overseas to quarantine at state approved facilities. That requirement stays in force and is likely to do so for quite some time.
GettingFedUp
01-30-21, 07:17
All,
It appears that almost all the recent restrictions will be eased from Monday 1 February. "Appears" because the Governor has issued the order but until the amended National Rules are published in the Royal Gazette nothing is absolutely certain.
The only thing which is not allowed to re-open is chicken (and other animal) fighting arenas. You'll just have to "choke the chicken" in the privacy of your own abode, if that's your thing.
Bars and other entertainment venues may open until 11 pm, restaurants can serve alcohol (to 11 pm), permits no longer required to travel out of the province. Dancing is not permitted (does the "chrome pole shuffle" count as dancing? Discuss). Convenience stores must close between 11 pm and 5 am. National licencing laws are likely to be applied for sales of alcohol from shops (11:00 - 14:00, 17:00 - 23:00).
https://thepattayanews.com/2021/01/30/chonburi-public-relations-release-new-order-around-easing-covid-19-measures-and-closures-effective-monday-february-1st/
All,
It appears that almost all the recent restrictions will be eased from Monday 1 February. "Appears" because the Governor has issued the order but until the amended National Rules are published in the Royal Gazette nothing is absolutely certain.
The only thing which is not allowed to re-open is chicken (and other animal) fighting arenas. You'll just have to "choke the chicken" in the privacy of your own abode, if that's your thing.
Bars and other entertainment venues may open until 11 pm, restaurants can serve alcohol (to 11 pm), permits no longer required to travel out of the province. Dancing is not permitted (does the "chrome pole shuffle" count as dancing? Discuss). Convenience stores must close between 11 pm and 5 am. National licencing laws are likely to be applied for sales of alcohol from shops (11:00 - 14:00, 17:00 - 23:00).Gogos are opening Monday. LK ones will be 6-12 pm. Last hour should be drinking up. Big new year eve party in crystal on Saturday. Makes up for closing on Dec 30th.
LittleBigMan
02-01-21, 01:56
Gogos are opening Monday. LK ones will be 6-12 pm. Last hour should be drinking up. Big new year eve party in crystal on Saturday. Makes up for closing on Dec 30th.It would be interesting to see how they adjust around the restrictions of no dancing?
LittleBigMan
02-02-21, 12:04
Feb 1st, the first night of the opening I decided to go down to Buakhao and get an early dinner. After did my cruise first down to Walking St. The entrance was blocked off due to them starting road work in putting overhead wires underground what timing if the pandemic didn't close down W. S. The road work for a good year might put the nail on the coffin. The only GoGo I noticed that was opened was Windmill and Tantra surprised Pin Up was closed let's hope it was just the 1st night.
Back up to Soi Buakhao, maybe it was the 1st night and people were restless and had to get out but it had a feeling as it it was like New Years', many of the outdoor bars were very busy especially in the LK Metro. The only Gogos I saw opened was Pandora, Crystal, Destiny, Paradise, many of the bars on Soi Buakhao closed to L. K. Were busy, Soi 7,8, not much sorry forgot about Soi 6, the hottest place in the Baukhao GoGo personally is Golden Times many of the old Bacarra staff is working there including the head mamasan from Bacarra.
The restriction was supposed to be no dancing with music and close at 11 pm I ask one girl at Destiny what time close she just responded late? I didn't see any social distance last night.
Explorer8939
02-04-21, 15:20
The bars have been open for a few days now, I am noticing that every day is a little busier than the day before. There are certainly no lack of ladies.
I have not yet been to Walking Street or Soi 6, I just haven't gotten around to it yet.
HellvelMan
02-05-21, 18:33
Pinup.
Seems pinup filled with beauties any members visited before how about the present situation there for Pickup.
HellvelMan
02-05-21, 19:01
Lovely girls to see. Ever green Pattaya.
Banana Boi
02-06-21, 06:07
Seems pinup filled with beauties any members visited before how about the present situation there for Pickup.There were 50 girls at Pin Up last night.
Open gogo bars so far. Pin Up, Palace, Windmill, Tantra, Atlantis, Dollhouse, Fahrenheit.
There were 50 girls at Pin Up last night.
Open gogo bars so far. Pin Up, Palace, Windmill, Tantra, Atlantis, Dollhouse, Fahrenheit.Damn, still stuck at home.
Fantastic night last night. Destiny, Lady Love and Crystal all packed with people throwing money around like 10 years ago. Quite a few I spoke to had recently finished quarantine. A lot of the bars like Cafe Racer also doing a roaring trade. Feels like the 12 p. M close means like everyone is heading out at 6 pm to party on Friday and Saturday night.
https://forum.thaivisa.com/topic/1205022-goodbye-pattaya-almost-everyone-in-the-entertainment-industry-has-left-apartment-complexes-empty/
Goodbye Pattaya! Almost everyone in the entertainment industry has left. Apartment complexes empty.
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Images: Siam Rath.
Thai media Siam Rath went down to Pattaya to investigate after the words "La Laew Pattaya" - Goodbye Pattaya. Were trending on Facebook site Pattaya Talk.
It appeared that everyone was loading their possessions onto pick-ups and heading back to the villages.
There were supportive comments but there was no hiding the abject depression.
Pattaya, once packed full of tourists and life especially in the high season is now deserted.
To confirm this Siam Rath went to the resort and saw that many apartment complexes were for sale or lease. Some didn't have a single person staying in them any more.
Phasakorn Suntharot. The owner of Suntharot Apartment. Said that his tenants started to leave during the first wave of the pandemic. Then just when it looked like there was to be a recovery along came the second wave.
His tenants were all people who worked in the entertainment industry and they have just gone home to save money.
He has just one room rented out now.
Pattaya has nothing left, he lamented.
Source: Siam Rath.
Banana Boi
02-08-21, 00:20
Nobody left in townThen who are all these people packing LK Metro on a nightly basis? Although many of the once popular gogo bars like Kink and Ninja are not open, those open bar beers are very busy. As confirmed by Cusland, LK Metro is rocking.
Don't believe what you read. If there is no one in Pattaya why is there still traffic during the day time on weekends?
Then who are all these people packing LK Metro on a nightly basis? Although many of the once popular gogo bars like Kink and Ninja are not open, those open bar beers are very busy. As confirmed by Cusland, LK Metro is rocking.
Don't believe what you read. If there is no one in Pattaya why is there still traffic during the day time on weekends?With bkk bars closed I expect Pattaya will be "busy" every weekend until it reopens. A lot of bars were busy this past weekend but that's because many haven't reopened yet (or won't be). I wouldn't say LK metro is rocking when half the bars aren't even open LOL.
Girl quality at LK metro is awful right now, continuing its downward trend since July. Significantly better looking girls can be found on soi honey or boomerang now.
Explorer8939
02-09-21, 02:41
With bkk bars closed I expect Pattaya will be "busy" every weekend until it reopens. A lot of bars were busy this past weekend but that's because many haven't reopened yet (or won't be). I wouldn't say LK metro is rocking when half the bars aren't even open LOL.
Girl quality at LK metro is awful right now, continuing its downward trend since July. Significantly better looking girls can be found on soi honey or boomerang now.My impression is that the ladies working in the bars now are hotter than before Covid19, because there are fewer customers. The marginal ladies don't have customers so they stop working, leaving the good ones.
My impression is that the ladies working in the bars now are hotter than before Covid19, because there are fewer customers. The marginal ladies don't have customers so they stop working, leaving the good ones.The smart ones are online and the really sharp ones are on Only Fans, many making more than they ever did in the bars.
Banana Boi
02-09-21, 06:24
The smart ones are online and the really sharp ones are on Only Fans, many making more than they ever did in the bars.Add mlive and bigo.
Add mlive and bigo.Absolutely. It doesn't bode well for the future of mongering.
Covid has pushed digitization ahead 10 years.
Danny Duck
02-09-21, 07:36
My impression is that the ladies working in the bars now are hotter than before Covid19, because there are fewer customers. The marginal ladies don't have customers so they stop working, leaving the good ones.Makes no sense. We have the money and are willing to spend it.
Local Thais don't go for Marginal lookers. Ex pats-They want rock bottom pricing.
My impression is that the ladies working in the bars now are hotter than before Covid19, because there are fewer customers. The marginal ladies don't have customers so they stop working, leaving the good ones.I would disagree overall, although there has been a lot of girls moving between bars and in / out of Pattaya. Also some of the better ones stopped working but found a farang BF in Pattaya to support them. You'll see those with back in their old bar drinking with their BF and getting him to buy all her friends drinks.
You would be right if Pattaya was a normal economy, but its not. The average age of punter here today is 60+ and as such you have a lot of girls who that crowd prefers and not so many for younger guys.
https://forum.thaivisa.com/topic/1205336-the-bars-and-clubs-might-be-open-but-pattaya%E2%80%99s-famous-nightlife-looks-dead-and-buried/
It was reminiscent of Mr Bumble wandering down a snowy street in Oliver Twist offering a "Boy for Sale".
But this wasn't desolate Victorian England. This was Pattaya in the 21st Century.
Much of Pattaya is for sale or rent. The "lady" who once offered so much is a shadow of her former self still lying lower than low even after the orders to close were lifted.
Walking Street resembled that lonely road traversed by Mr Bumble in the famous musical trying to sell the little boy.
Just like then there were few takers.
Pattaya Update News, and an identical story on We Love Pattaya, said that bars, pubs and entertainment places could now open to 11 pm.
Absolutely. It doesn't bode well for the future of mongering.
Covid has pushed digitization ahead 10 years.Thailand's education system is awful, especially in rural areas. Its min wage is about 330 baht a day and plenty of places manage to pay even less. The supply of girls who want to make big money working in P4P instead of a lifetime of making about 10000 baht a month will not dry up. Someone has to support Mom's gambling addiction and Dad's drinking addiction!
Also lots of Thai guys pay for sex. Its a part of the country and not going anywhere.
https://forum.thaivisa.com/topic/1205336-the-bars-and-clubs-might-be-open-but-pattaya%E2%80%99s-famous-nightlife-looks-dead-and-buried/
It was reminiscent of Mr Bumble wandering down a snowy street in Oliver Twist offering a "Boy for Sale".
But this wasn't desolate Victorian England. This was Pattaya in the 21st Century.
Much of Pattaya is for sale or rent. The "lady" who once offered so much is a shadow of her former self still lying lower than low even after the orders to close were lifted.
Walking Street resembled that lonely road traversed by Mr Bumble in the famous musical trying to sell the little boy.
Just like then there were few takers.
Pattaya Update News, and an identical story on We Love Pattaya, said that bars, pubs and entertainment places could now open to 11 pm.Not to be too Rosy, but I suspect things will happen just like in The Simpson's (which has been surprisingly accurate on their takes on future evets in some episodes, probably just pure luck), when the town had gone through a period of Prohibition, and towards the end of the episode Prohibition was lifted and Mayor Quimby asked Fat Tony how quick he could get the liquor flowing again and he said "Give me 5 minutes" and 5 minutes later the scene was the town was full of drunks again out in public passed out on the streets.
When the Green light is given it's not going to happen in "5 minutes" but the bounce back of such places will occur rather quickly. There may be some changes on how things will be done, but that's just simply too much money for the "Fat Tony's" and "Mayor Quimby's" (I. E. Not so legit businessmen and politicians) to just let pass away all going directly to people on the internet. They will get their money somehow and that probably means bringing back the old with some new things.
https://youtu.be/XAk9gfGGpP8
Palace this past weekend, 40 or so girls (70% less than before COVID).
https://youtu.be/dY5cKivm1Po
Pin Up this past weekend, 50 or so girls. (66% less than before COVID).
https://youtu.be/uiU-BESjjOU
Palace when it was a party before the pandemic.
Now you can judge when was the hotter girls and more fun at the Gogo bars. Videos are courtesy from your favorite neighborhood Spider-Man.
Thailand's education system is awful, especially in rural areas. Its min wage is about 330 baht a day and plenty of places manage to pay even less. The supply of girls who want to make big money working in P4P instead of a lifetime of making about 10000 baht a month will not dry up. Someone has to support Mom's gambling addiction and Dad's drinking addiction!
Also lots of Thai guys pay for sex. Its a part of the country and not going anywhere.Thai men don't fish in the same pond and have different expectations. Even before covid digitization has had a huge effect on the P4 P in Thailand.
And yes there will always be the uneducated, but again as we have seen in the last few years it is the bottom of the barrel that goes to work in the farang oriented Go-Go bars, as opposed to the more absurdly priced locales that cater mainly to Asian men who again have very different expectations from Western men as far as performance is concerned. Mind you I am not centering on looks but the entire package.
Banana Boi
02-10-21, 06:14
Local Thais don't go for Marginal lookers. Ex pats-They want rock bottom pricing.In general, Farang and Asians have totally different preferences for Thai looks. Farang like girls who look like girls at Windmill, Sapphire, Billabong, Coconut, and lots of bar beers. Asians prefer Baccara, Sensations, Pin Up, Happy, Palace, and Hollywood looks. Girls are no different and select where they work based on the clientele they prefer.
My impression is that the ladies working in the bars now are hotter than before Covid19, because there are fewer customers. The marginal ladies don't have customers so they stop working, leaving the good ones.I doubt that. There are only about 10% of the gogo girls as there were pre COVID and the hot girls I know are living the high life in the comfort of their home while their Sponsors don't want them to work. What else are Sponsors going to do with their money if they can't monger?
The smart ones are online and the really sharp ones are on Only Fans, many making more than they ever did in the bars.That's true OF exploded when we are trapped at home.
I even had some Canadian sugar babies and seen a few escorts.
But it all coming to a end.
I have quit all these virtual and local venues and I have other monger buddies that once we can travel will not spend 10 cents on virtual.
I know many girls that were doing good on OF and now guys are dropping it and what something real.
Many have abandoned their accounts.
In 1 or 2 years it will be normal.
Men will be traveling, hitting clubs and using escorts as normal.
Virtual is a joke.
The women will be back where the real money will migrate.
Franciscass
02-10-21, 10:14
the hot girls I know are living the high life in the comfort of their home while their Sponsors don't want them to work. What else are Sponsors going to do with their money if they can't monger?Not sure I get that BB. What is the difference in the life of a girl who was being sponsored precovid and what's happening now.
Are you saying that some guys who precovid were not sponsors but have now become sponsors because they don't know what to do with their money, or were they already sponsors precovid, the only difference being that now their girl cannot work but will be working again when it makes sense.
LittleBigMan
02-10-21, 10:47
https://youtu.be/XAk9gfGGpP8
Palace this past weekend, 40 or so girls (70% less than before COVID).
https://youtu.be/dY5cKivm1Po
Pin Up this past weekend, 50 or so girls. (66% less than before COVID).
https://youtu.be/uiU-BESjjOU
Palace when it was a party before the pandemic.
Now you can judge when was the hotter girls and more fun at the Gogo bars. Videos are courtesy from your favorite neighborhood Spider-Man.You live up to your name ALLOVER.
That's true OF exploded when we are trapped at home.
I even had some Canadian sugar babies and seen a few escorts.
But it all coming to a end.
I have quit all these virtual and local venues and I have other monger buddies that once we can travel will not spend 10 cents on virtual.
I know many girls that were doing good on OF and now guys are dropping it and what something real.
Many have abandoned their accounts.
In 1 or 2 years it will be normal.
Men will be traveling, hitting clubs and using escorts as normal.
Virtual is a joke.
The women will be back where the real money will migrate.Agreed. I had initially subscribed to some girls but didn't renew my subscription after one month. There is only so many times you want to see one girl. And that too my subscription was for some insta or reality tv girls I wanted to see in all glory. Moreover, these girls don't upload every day so not a lot of content from first subscription onward. I think of will keep them afloat but I doubt it can be a main source of income for most girls. For some yes, but most no.
Banana Boi
02-11-21, 00:48
Are you saying that some guys who precovid were not sponsors but have now become sponsors because they don't know what to do with their money, or were they already sponsors precovid, Guy falls for girl while he was in Thailand January, 2020. Thailand closes border so guy can no longer see girl. Guy misses girl. Girl Lines guy daily making guy feel loved. Guy works but can't travel to see girl in Thailand or go to Germany, etc. Guy has extra disposable income now. Girl keeps Lining guy saying how much she misses him and can't wait to do BBFS with him again assuring him he is the only guy she has done BBFS with. Guy is needy and feels he has found the girl of his dreams. Guy feels bad knowing Soi 6 is closed and the girl can't work other than getting suckers to buy virtual drinks online. Guy figures he has saved 500k baht by not taking 2 trips to Thailand in 2020. Girl continues to Line guy. Guy decides to give girl allowance of 50k baht per month. Girl is so grateful she says when guy comes back sex will be free and no need to pay for sex. Girl neglects to tell guy most of the money is going to her boyfriend/tomboy to buy alcohol and drugs. Girl promises guy she will not have sex with anyone else. Girl goes out that night and gets gangbanged by her boyfriend and his buddies for a fee. Guy feels like he has done a good deed and karma will return tenfold. Guy is horny. Guy remains dedicated to girl as she continues to send love stickers to guy all day long. Guy can't wait to get back to Thailand and is considering early retirement so he has more vacation time and can satisfy the 14 day quarantine. Guy continues to dream about his Thai girl while he pumps out 50 k baht to girl monthly. Girl feels no need to work any more. She has her sucker hook line and sinker. The end.
Guy falls for girl while he was in Thailand January, 2020. Thailand closes border so guy can no longer see girl. Guy misses girl. Girl Lines guy daily making guy feel loved. Guy works but can't travel to see girl in Thailand or go to Germany, etc. Guy has extra disposable income now. Girl keeps Lining guy saying how much she misses him and can't wait to do BBFS with him again assuring him he is the only guy she has done BBFS with. Guy is needy and feels he has found the girl of his dreams. Guy feels bad knowing Soi 6 is closed and the girl can't work other than getting suckers to buy virtual drinks online. Guy figures he has saved 500k baht by not taking 2 trips to Thailand in 2020. Girl continues to Line guy. Guy decides to give girl allowance of 50k baht per month. Girl is so grateful she says when guy comes back sex will be free and no need to pay for sex. Girl neglects to tell guy most of the money is going to her boyfriend/tomboy to buy alcohol and drugs. Girl promises guy she will not have sex with anyone else. Girl goes out that night and gets gangbanged by her boyfriend and his buddies for a fee. Guy feels like he has done a good deed and karma will return tenfold. Guy is horny. Guy remains dedicated to girl as she continues to send love stickers to guy all day long. Guy can't wait to get back to Thailand and is considering early retirement so he has more vacation time and can satisfy the 14 day quarantine. Guy continues to dream about his Thai girl while he pumps out 50 k baht to girl monthly. Girl feels no need to work any more. She has her sucker hook line and sinker. The end.What about when I am about to make love to my Thai bar girl and she says "go slow, no boom boom long time" is she lying then? 555.
Franciscass
02-11-21, 04:49
Guy falls for girl while he was in Thailand January, 2020. Thailand closes border so guy can no longer see girl. Guy misses girl. Girl Lines guy daily making guy feel loved. Guy works but can't travel to see girl in Thailand or go to Germany, etc. Guy has extra disposable income now. Girl keeps Lining guy saying how much she misses him and can't wait to do BBFS with him again assuring him he is the only guy she has done BBFS with. Guy is needy and feels he has found the girl of his dreams. Guy feels bad knowing Soi 6 is closed and the girl can't work other than getting suckers to buy virtual drinks online. Guy figures he has saved 500k baht by not taking 2 trips to Thailand in 2020. Girl continues to Line guy. Guy decides to give girl allowance of 50k baht per month. Girl is so grateful she says when guy comes back sex will be free and no need to pay for sex. Girl neglects to tell guy most of the money is going to her boyfriend/tomboy to buy alcohol and drugs. Girl promises guy she will not have sex with anyone else. Girl goes out that night and gets gangbanged by her boyfriend and his buddies for a fee. Guy feels like he has done a good deed and karma will return tenfold. Guy is horny. Guy remains dedicated to girl as she continues to send love stickers to guy all day long. Guy can't wait to get back to Thailand and is considering early retirement so he has more vacation time and can satisfy the 14 day quarantine. Guy continues to dream about his Thai girl while he pumps out 50 k baht to girl monthly. Girl feels no need to work any more. She has her sucker hook line and sinker. The end.Sorry BB just not enough detail. Need the timeline from January 20.
Guy falls for girl while he was in Thailand January, 2020. Thailand closes border so guy can no longer see girl. Guy misses girl. Girl Lines guy daily making guy feel loved. Guy works but can't travel to see girl in Thailand or go to Germany, etc. Guy has extra disposable income now. Girl keeps Lining guy saying how much she misses him and can't wait to do BBFS with him again assuring him he is the only guy she has done BBFS with. Guy is needy and feels he has found the girl of his dreams. Guy feels bad knowing Soi 6 is closed and the girl can't work other than getting suckers to buy virtual drinks online. Guy figures he has saved 500k baht by not taking 2 trips to Thailand in 2020. Girl continues to Line guy. Guy decides to give girl allowance of 50k baht per month. Girl is so grateful she says when guy comes back sex will be free and no need to pay for sex. Girl neglects to tell guy most of the money is going to her boyfriend/tomboy to buy alcohol and drugs. Girl promises guy she will not have sex with anyone else. Girl goes out that night and gets gangbanged by her boyfriend and his buddies for a fee. Guy feels like he has done a good deed and karma will return tenfold. Guy is horny. Guy remains dedicated to girl as she continues to send love stickers to guy all day long. Guy can't wait to get back to Thailand and is considering early retirement so he has more vacation time and can satisfy the 14 day quarantine. Guy continues to dream about his Thai girl while he pumps out 50 k baht to girl monthly. Girl feels no need to work any more. She has her sucker hook line and sinker. The end.Wow, you really got my life story down to the smallest detail. I think the only part you missed is, the Covid lockdown has had a negative impact with my marriage. So now I divorced my wife and had to give her half of my assets along with the house, car and future monthly support. Now I'm just saving of what's left of myself so when border opens again, I could be with my one true faithful bargirl.
Cheers all.
Guy falls for girl while he was in Thailand January, 2020. Thailand closes border so guy can no longer see girl. Guy misses girl. Girl Lines guy daily making guy feel loved. Guy works but can't travel to see girl in Thailand or go to Germany, etc. Guy has extra disposable income now. Girl keeps Lining guy saying how much she misses him and can't wait to do BBFS with him again assuring him he is the only guy she has done BBFS with. Guy is needy and feels he has found the girl of his dreams. Guy feels bad knowing Soi 6 is closed and the girl can't work other than getting suckers to buy virtual drinks online. Guy figures he has saved 500k baht by not taking 2 trips to Thailand in 2020. Girl continues to Line guy. Guy decides to give girl allowance of 50k baht per month. Girl is so grateful she says when guy comes back sex will be free and no need to pay for sex. Girl neglects to tell guy most of the money is going to her boyfriend/tomboy to buy alcohol and drugs. Girl promises guy she will not have sex with anyone else. Girl goes out that night and gets gangbanged by her boyfriend and his buddies for a fee. Guy feels like he has done a good deed and karma will return tenfold. Guy is horny. Guy remains dedicated to girl as she continues to send love stickers to guy all day long. Guy can't wait to get back to Thailand and is considering early retirement so he has more vacation time and can satisfy the 14 day quarantine. Guy continues to dream about his Thai girl while he pumps out 50 k baht to girl monthly. Girl feels no need to work any more. She has her sucker hook line and sinker. The end.So sorry you feel for this trick, I thought you were smarter then this Bb,.
Explorer8939
02-11-21, 14:25
An adventure on Soi Chaiyapoon:
Blue Sky Health Massage has a lady with the name of then opposite of "yes", full figured, does a great job in the shower, I feel very clean, followed by massage and oral finish. A good time was had by all.
Explorer8939
02-11-21, 14:30
https://youtu.be/XAk9gfGGpP8
Palace this past weekend, 40 or so girls (70% less than before COVID).
https://youtu.be/dY5cKivm1Po
Pin Up this past weekend, 50 or so girls. (66% less than before COVID).
https://youtu.be/uiU-BESjjOU
Palace when it was a party before the pandemic.
Now you can judge when was the hotter girls and more fun at the Gogo bars. Videos are courtesy from your favorite neighborhood Spider-Man.I was in PinUp last night. The ladies are as hot as ever, just no customers.
Windmill has the same number of ladies, and there are maybe half the customers as before COVID-19. However, pre-Covid, there had been a raid on Windmill, and so the girls were more conservative. They aren't any more.
SinfullyKorean
02-12-21, 02:50
I was in PinUp last night. The ladies are as hot as ever, just no customers.
Windmill has the same number of ladies, and there are maybe half the customers as before COVID-19. However, pre-Covid, there had been a raid on Windmill, and so the girls were more conservative. They aren't any more.Having half the number of customers with travel still restricted is REALLY good. I wonder how packed it will be once travel is completely open, al beit vaccine / immunity passpord.
Houston Player
02-12-21, 05:17
https://youtu.be/dY5cKivm1Po
Pin Up this past weekend, 50 or so girls. (66% less than before COVID).
Now you can judge when was the hotter girls and more fun at the Gogo bars. Videos are courtesy from your favorite neighborhood Spider-Man.I hate to have to call bullshit on the timeline of this video but this video was not from last weekend. It is in Pinup but at the end of the video there is a tall white bald guy walking. I know him and he was not in Pattaya last weekend. This video has to be before the last lockdown took place. It could be after COVID but I can't be sure. We are from Bangkok and now we go to Pattaya often since we can't travel to destinations outside of Thailand.
Explorer8939
02-12-21, 07:29
Having half the number of customers with travel still restricted is REALLY good. I wonder how packed it will be once travel is completely open, al beit vaccine / immunity passpord.Windmill will be packed like sardines once the riff-raff are allowed back into Thailand. Windmill is great as it is now.
It's a good place to bring a Barfine. After an hour in there, you'll know how much your barfine is into sex, or if she is just going through the motions.
Danny Duck
02-13-21, 02:07
An adventure on Soi Chaiyapoon:
Blue Sky Health Massage has a lady with the name of then opposite of "yes", full figured, does a great job in the shower, I feel very clean, followed by massage and oral finish. A good time was had by all.Full figure?
Five & foot two. 175 lbs?
Explorer8939
02-13-21, 02:22
Because most of the Walking Street gogos are closed, there are many former gogo ladies working bars in LK Metro and other areas that are still open. That's the good news. The bad news is that they still have their sponsors and admirers, so they may not be available much.
That's true OF exploded when we are trapped at home.
I even had some Canadian sugar babies and seen a few escorts.
But it all coming to a end.
I have quit all these virtual and local venues and I have other monger buddies that once we can travel will not spend 10 cents on virtual.
I know many girls that were doing good on OF and now guys are dropping it and what something real.
Many have abandoned their accounts.
In 1 or 2 years it will be normal.
Men will be traveling, hitting clubs and using escorts as normal.
Virtual is a joke.
The women will be back where the real money will migrate.But keep in mind, the majority of men will never monger. And that is the true audience for OF.
I doubt that. There are only about 10% of the gogo girls as there were pre COVID and the hot girls I know are living the high life in the comfort of their home while their Sponsors don't want them to work. What else are Sponsors going to do with their money if they can't monger?Looking at the facebook profiles of the girls I would consider the top 10% from gogos in Pattaya such as Palace etc, very few are roughing it out trying to slog it for the few punters in town, regardless of a slight refresh of baht filled wallets with the post-ASQ crowd which has trickled in. As BB has said, many are taking trips to Phuket / Samui / Krabi and living in Bangkok somewhere in nice condos. Some are back at home building their Isaan mansions and are just not anywhere close to wanting to come back to Pattaya yet for what's left of the paying crowd. Sponsors are continuing to send them money either through wanting to help them through this situation or because they are total fools (take your pick) and I suspect many will never come back to the city again. This is not all despair though, if and when Pattaya should rise again, new ones will take their place by the busload, but if you were looking for the same stunners from 2019, good chance that they will be gone for a very long time.
PedroMorales
02-13-21, 21:40
Look at this silly German giving away free fruit in Pattaya. It is notable many of the women are plain and others are too lazy to walk over to get the free fruit. Good marriage material.
Guy falls for girl while he was in Thailand January, 2020. Thailand closes border so guy can no longer see girl. Guy misses girl. Girl Lines guy daily making guy feel loved. Guy works but can't travel to see girl in Thailand or go to Germany, etc. Guy has extra disposable income now. Girl keeps Lining guy saying how much she misses him and can't wait to do BBFS with him again assuring him he is the only guy she has done BBFS with. Guy is needy and feels he has found the girl of his dreams. Guy feels bad knowing Soi 6 is closed and the girl can't work other than getting suckers to buy virtual drinks online. Guy figures he has saved 500k baht by not taking 2 trips to Thailand in 2020. Girl continues to Line guy. Guy decides to give girl allowance of 50k baht per month. Girl is so grateful she says when guy comes back sex will be free and no need to pay for sex. Girl neglects to tell guy most of the money is going to her boyfriend/tomboy to buy alcohol and drugs. Girl promises guy she will not have sex with anyone else. Girl goes out that night and gets gangbanged by her boyfriend and his buddies for a fee. Guy feels like he has done a good deed and karma will return tenfold. Guy is horny. Guy remains dedicated to girl as she continues to send love stickers to guy all day long. Guy can't wait to get back to Thailand and is considering early retirement so he has more vacation time and can satisfy the 14 day quarantine. Guy continues to dream about his Thai girl while he pumps out 50 k baht to girl monthly. Girl feels no need to work any more. She has her sucker hook line and sinker. The end.I was there last March in Pattaya! And I'm back in my country waiting borders of Thailand open again normally without quarantine! I'll bever do 2 weeks of quarantine! And yes finally this year I saved a lot of money because next month it will be 1 year I didn't go in Pattaya! Usually I go there every 3 months and each time I bang new girls and regular girls I know for few years in Soi 6 or everywhere else in Pattaya or BKK. You say guys send 50.000 bahts right now to their girls! If they're stupid to do it, it's their problem!
I just keep on touch on Line or Whasapp or Facebook with girls I met before! And I even meet new girls on facebook! I don't send money to girls! Only sometimes I send about 1200 bahts to few girls just for help or to maje them happy but nothing more! But when I send them 1000 bahts each time I asl them to do me a nice show on cam! In fact I fuck them by cam LOL like on Chaturbate. Most of them them do that!
But I'nn ever send so much money to any lady there because I know they all have sponsors, they don't care about us, they just want money! They play a great game with us! And me right now for few years I play same game with them! I just want fuck them bareback, I pay when I fuck and it's enough for me!
Guy falls for girl while he was in Thailand January, 2020. Thailand closes border so guy can no longer see girl. Guy misses girl. Girl Lines guy daily making guy feel loved. Guy works but can't travel to see girl in Thailand or go to Germany, etc. Guy has extra disposable income now. Girl keeps Lining guy saying how much she misses him and can't wait to do BBFS with him again assuring him he is the only guy she has done BBFS with. Guy is needy and feels he has found the girl of his dreams. Guy feels bad knowing Soi 6 is closed and the girl can't work other than getting suckers to buy virtual drinks online. Guy figures he has saved 500k baht by not taking 2 trips to Thailand in 2020. Girl continues to Line guy. Guy decides to give girl allowance of 50k baht per month. Girl is so grateful she says when guy comes back sex will be free and no need to pay for sex. Girl neglects to tell guy most of the money is going to her boyfriend/tomboy to buy alcohol and drugs. Girl promises guy she will not have sex with anyone else. Girl goes out that night and gets gangbanged by her boyfriend and his buddies for a fee. Guy feels like he has done a good deed and karma will return tenfold. Guy is horny. Guy remains dedicated to girl as she continues to send love stickers to guy all day long. Guy can't wait to get back to Thailand and is considering early retirement so he has more vacation time and can satisfy the 14 day quarantine. Guy continues to dream about his Thai girl while he pumps out 50 k baht to girl monthly. Girl feels no need to work any more. She has her sucker hook line and sinker. The end.Like you say I love when a Thai working girl say, she never does BBFS and does that only with me! And of course, I say exactly the same to her!
Explorer8939
02-14-21, 02:37
I was in PinUp on Saturday night, a lot more customers than during the week. I suspect that some come down from Bangkok. Windmill was actually crowded, almost couldn't find a seat for myself and my two ladies.
As for high end ladies staying home because they have a sponsor, what posters here are forgetting is that sponsors are not reliable. There is a high attrition rate of sponsors after they leave Pattaya. So, not many pre-COVID sponsors are still around. Another issue is that ladies like to have multiple sponsors. So, even if sponsor #1 paid them to go to Isaan in early 2020, when the bars open again, the lady will return to Pattaya to find more sponsors.
Plus, the village is boring.
I was in PinUp on Saturday night, a lot more customers than during the week. I suspect that some come down from Bangkok.Yeah. I was one of those BKK guys last night. 😂 And I can confirm as well about the great crowd.
It was my first time at PinUp and I had a good time. I think that night, the ratio of girls to guys seemed right. There was enough guys there where it didn't make you seem like the only target for those many girls on stage. And there were plenty of girls where you should be able to find one that is attractive and to your personal taste.
I ended up barfining a girl there for 1000 baht.
The time back in the hotel was great. We ended up doing BBFS because neither of us had any protection on us. It was pretty irresponsible of me to always think the girl will carry some in her purse. Anyways, I had no regrets.
She ended up leaving around 5 am. We never did negotiate price for her time during the barfining stage. And for the time, she just asked for 3000 baht. It seemed reasonable.
We exchanged Line info and I'll probably meet up with her again before I head back to the dark gloom of BKK.
HorseTrader
02-14-21, 05:09
Another issue is that ladies like to have multiple sponsors. So, even if sponsor #1 paid them to go to Isaan in early 2020, when the bars open again, the lady will return to Pattaya to find more sponsors.One of my non-P4P friends in Isaan told me how her girlfriend now has "many" farang sponsors. Says that COVID has made it easier to get sponsors from years past to start sending money again. I don't have a numerical value for "many".
These girls see nothing wrong with sponsors sending money. It is a way to support family.
Explorer8939
02-14-21, 14:39
One of my non-P4P friends in Isaan told me how her girlfriend now has "many" farang sponsors. Says that COVID has made it easier to get sponsors from years past to start sending money again. I don't have a numerical value for "many".
These girls see nothing wrong with sponsors sending money. It is a way to support family.If some idiots want to send money to some bargirl so she can hand it to her Thai boyfriend, great. But, we need to put this practice in context. Only a small percent of bargirls have anything close to a regular sponsor. Back in the day, lots of gogo girls had multiple sponsors, but if you go out into other areas, you just won't run into many ladies with sponsors.
If some idiots want to send money to some bargirl so she can hand it to her Thai boyfriend, great. But, we need to put this practice in context. Only a small percent of bargirls have anything close to a regular sponsor. Back in the day, lots of gogo girls had multiple sponsors, but if you go out into other areas, you just won't run into many ladies with sponsors.The gals pimp gets the money so I have been told by mates friends working in lybia years ago who handed a wad o cash to the pimp at the flat they lived.
Franciscass
02-15-21, 04:59
The gals pimp gets the money so I have been told by mates friends working in lybia years ago who handed a wad o cash to the pimp at the flat they lived.Low life pimps are part of P4P everywhere but from living here for over 20 years my feeling is they are less of an issue here. Trafficking from adjoining countries goes on and seedy brothels can be found mostly in border towns but girls working the expat / tourist end in the major cities are by and large independents. That is not to say some of them don't have boyfriend leeches who I guess could be called pimps but mostly they use their earnings to either look after their kid (s) and family or they it on clothes and cosmetics. There are some not many who manage to save for a rainy day.
If some idiots want to send money to some bargirl so she can hand it to her Thai boyfriend, great. But, we need to put this practice in context. Only a small percent of bargirls have anything close to a regular sponsor. Back in the day, lots of gogo girls had multiple sponsors, but if you go out into other areas, you just won't run into many ladies with sponsors.Sponsors can be funny. Girls gain and lose sponsors over time. Some sponsors lose their disposable cash over time or figure out the girl is playing them or become smitten with a different girl. Some sponsors haven't seen their girls in over a year.
Explorer8939
02-17-21, 10:15
A pimp works by recruiting ladies and directing how and where they work to some degree.
A leech boyfriend doesn't pretend to do any work for a bargirl, he just borrows money from her. Or a leech Tom.
After fucking old Farangs all day, the ladies like to have a young guy to go home to. On rare occasions, that young guy will be a Farang. Of course, the sponsor will never be told about the young boyfriend. The young guy has to be tolerant of the bargirl going off with a customer and may have another lady on the side. Some time ago, some bar girl tried to recruit me as a "boyfriend", ie a long term customer. She was going out with some young Thai guy until she found out that he had another bargirl, but she was off on an extended holiday with a Farang customer.
Anyway, I have been hitting the bars again. The quality of the ladies remains high. As always, some bars have more customers than others, some are somewhat busy, others are dead. There are more ladyboys than before, but they are not aggressive.
Ass Addict
02-17-21, 11:13
many are taking trips to Phuket / Samui / Krabi and living in Bangkok somewhere in nice condos. Some are back at home building their Isaan mansions and are just not anywhere close to wanting to come back to Pattaya yet for what's left of the paying crowd. Sponsors are continuing to send them money either through wanting to help them through this situation or because they are total fools (take your pick) and I suspect many will never come back to the city again.One got to wonder why they were selling their asses and pussies in Pattaya if they are such millionaires living the star life.
https://forum.thaivisa.com/topic/1206427-expats-swindled-out-of-100-million-baht-by-pattaya-bank-staffer-meet-prosecutor/
The public prosecutor in Pattaya met with many of the Thai and foreign victims of an assistant bank manager who is alleged to have stolen 100 million baht of their money.
Chaisit Sappermpoon is currently being held without bail in Pattaya special prison as evidence is gathered in thirty cases against him.
It is alleged that he used his position as assistant branch manager at a well known commercial bank to convince customers of his integrity and good intentions.
But there is evidence that he did not do that. Instead he used old bank books that he was supposed to have incinerated to convince customers, many of them foreign expats in the resort, that they had funds in their account and were doing well.
Some of these rumbled the scam when they found at other branches that their accounts had been drained, reported Pattaya Update News.
Chaisit also recommended investments and financial packages with high interest but just allegedly stole all the money.
Also in attendance at the meeting was the Pattaya station chief Pol Col Phisit Phoonsap.
Prosecutor Sakda Khlairomsai said this was a complicated matter involving 30 separate cases of fraud.
Banana Boi
02-17-21, 14:32
Anyway, I have been hitting the bars again. The quality of the ladies remains high. As always, some bars have more customers than others, some are somewhat busy, others are dead. There are more ladyboys than before, but they are not aggressive.Which bars are you going to with ladyboys? None of the bars I ever go to in Pattaya have ladyboys. Unlike BKK, there are very few bars in Pattaya with both ladyboys and girls.
Only a small percent of bargirls have anything close to a regular sponsor.
Any girl worth buying a drink for has a Sponsor. The exception would be if the girl is new and her Sponsor-to-be is still in Thailand barfining her daily.
.... Some sponsors haven't seen their girls in over a year.With covid there are many more such sponsors than ever before.
One of my non-P4P friends in Isaan told me how her girlfriend now has "many" farang sponsors. Says that COVID has made it easier to get sponsors from years past to start sending money again. I don't have a numerical value for "many".
These girls see nothing wrong with sponsors sending money. It is a way to support family.There are sponsors, and then there are sponsors. One type might send 1000 or 3000 baht when the girl messages them asking for help. The other type is sending 20000 or something like that every month.
If I had to guess in the past year more are sending those small amounts, and less are sending big amounts every month.
LittleBigMan
02-19-21, 02:08
There are sponsors, and then there are sponsors. One type might send 1000 or 3000 baht when the girl messages them asking for help. The other type is sending 20000 or something like that every month.
If I had to guess in the past year more are sending those small amounts, and less are sending big amounts every month.Agree! You make a lot of sense when you stay away from dick size!
Explorer8939
02-19-21, 07:01
Although the bars are open, there aren't a lot of customers midweek.
I walked down Soi Honey last night, from Second Road, it was like walking through the Zombie Apocalypse, everything was dark until I got down towards the Soi Buakhow end. At least at that end, the bars were open.
LK Metro was kind of busy, even though many of the gogos are shut. I spent time at the Cave, which was alternating between being full of customers and dead.
Explorer8939
02-19-21, 09:56
With covid there are many more such sponsors than ever before.Actually, there are many fewer ladies in Pattaya now, and those who can still live in Pattaya are those with sponsors. Ladies without sponsors are having difficulty making enough baht to survive in Pattaya.
It’s the same as in professional sports, for every multi-million dollar contract you hear about, there are thousands of players who make little or no money.
So, yes, there are Thai ladies living in expensive condos paid for by sponsors, but there are also 100s of ladies who bus down to Pattaya, and leave after a week or two with barely enough money to get home.
Which bars are you going to with ladyboys? None of the bars I ever go to in Pattaya have ladyboys. .There were a few bars on Soi 6 that had mix of both. And some there were pure LB bars. But that was pre Covid. Not sure what the bars there are like now.
Actually, there are many fewer ladies in Pattaya now, and those who can still live in Pattaya are those with sponsors. Ladies without sponsors are having difficulty making enough baht to survive in Pattaya.
Its the same as in professional sports, for every multi-million dollar contract you hear about, there are thousands of players who make little or no money.
So, yes, there are Thai ladies living in expensive condos paid for by sponsors, but there are also 100s of ladies who bus down to Pattaya, and leave after a week or two with barely enough money to get home.I have met and had fun with three girls over the years in Bangkok who had German sponsors, living in condos and have cars. They would drive the cars and we go places but would never allow inside the condos but gladly will stay with me.
I hope their sponsorship continues.
Banana Boi
02-21-21, 23:54
There were a few bars on Soi 6 that had mix of both. And some there were pure LB bars. But that was pre Covid. Not sure what the bars there are like now.Yes I am aware of that. Same applies to Soi 7 and Soi 8. However, the percentage of bars with both girls and LB in Pattaya has to be around 1-2% of all bars.
Some guys think there are some mixed bars when in fact it's ladyboys and post-ops. Yes, a post-op will tell you he's a girl and the bar will say all girls bar.
SlowAndEasy
02-24-21, 00:59
But keep in mind, the majority of men will never monger. And that is the true audience for OF.100%. The guys doing of and virtual drinks are mostly not Pattaya regulars.
Loose Cannon
02-24-21, 16:13
Just planning ahead. I have an option to continue working from home. What options in Pattaya do I have for short term rental of 45 days after completing the 15 days quarantine. Considering that we need to show proof of accommodation to apply for the visa, are Airbnb bookings valid evidence? Air BNB does have monthly rental options. A decent broadband connection is also required. Budget accommodation near walking street or soi buakhao below 10 k Baht per month preferred. Thank you for your inputs.
LC.
Mr Enternational
02-24-21, 16:17
100%. The guys doing of and virtual drinks are mostly not Pattaya regulars.What do you suppose the guys sending money to chicks are?
Mr Enternational
02-24-21, 16:26
Just planning ahead. I have an option to continue working from home. What options in Pattaya do I have for short term rental of 45 days after completing the 15 days quarantine. Considering that we need to show proof of accommodation to apply for the visa.You left out key pieces of info such as where you are from and what type of visa. But you can find placee on soidb. Com. I would not commit to anything until I was there on the ground and could see it in person.
Loose Cannon
02-24-21, 16:45
You left out key pieces of info such as where you are from and what type of visa. But you can find placee on soidb. Com. I would not commit to anything until I was there on the ground and could see it in person.I will come from India on the STV visa and intend to stay only for 60 days. The prerequisites for the visa is confirmed booking in ASQ / ALQ and accommodation for entire stay. Normally I walk in and book my stays in Thailand after checking the place, now the government is strict in seeking proof of accommodation.
Just planning ahead. I have an option to continue working from home. What options in Pattaya do I have for short term rental of 45 days after completing the 15 days quarantine. Considering that we need to show proof of accommodation to apply for the visa, are Airbnb bookings valid evidence? Air BNB does have monthly rental options. A decent broadband connection is also required. Budget accommodation near walking street or soi buakhao below 10 k Baht per month preferred. Thank you for your inputs.
LC.For the CEO (don't know about the visa) you need to write down where you're going to stay after the quarantine. No "proof" needed though. Isn't AirBnB illegal in Thailand?
I will come from India on the STV visa and intend to stay only for 60 days. The prerequisites for the visa is confirmed booking in ASQ / ALQ and accommodation for entire stay. Normally I walk in and book my stays in Thailand after checking the place, now the government is strict in seeking proof of accommodation.That's bad. I guess you have no alternative but to show a cancellable booking of some kind.
Christian G
02-24-21, 19:07
I will come from India on the STV visa and intend to stay only for 60 days. The prerequisites for the visa is confirmed booking in ASQ / ALQ and accommodation for entire stay. Normally I walk in and book my stays in Thailand after checking the place, now the government is strict in seeking proof of accommodation.Single Entry Tourist Visa (SETV) is not available in your country? STV have crazy rules especially for accommodation, and I would never use STV for stay only 45 days + 15 days in ASQ. You are going to spend a lot of money on visa, travel, insurance, ASQ, rt-pcr test and stay only 45 days, not worth it. IMHO.
Banana Boi
02-24-21, 19:43
Isn't AirBnB illegal in Thailand?Absolutely, it has been for years. Unless someone got busted while I was away I have never heard of an AirBNB customer get fined or deported for staying at an AirBNB. Having said that I would NEVER put an AirBNB address on any form I'm showing the IO.
The prerequisites for the visa is confirmed booking in ASQ / ALQ and accommodation for entire stay. Normally I walk in and book my stays in Thailand after checking the place, now the government is strict in seeking proof of accommodation.Make 2+ hotel bookings after your ASQ stay. One at a hotel where you actually want to stay for a week or two. Make more hotel bookings for the remainder of your stay at a different hotels so you have something to show the IO. Just make sure your hotel bookings are free cancellation, even the first booking in case you get COVID during your flight and ASQ stay.
Otherwise use your favorite gogo girl's address. Just make sure she picks up the phone in case the IO calls her to confirm you're staying at her place. Alternatively, I can give you Monkeypaw's address to use for a substantial fee.
For more accurate answers, your questions and any related questions about Visas really should be asked on a forum like thaivisa.com. There are a few posters on there who really know what they're talking about. Not difficult to figure out who they are.
SinfullyKorean
02-26-21, 20:02
Just planning ahead. I have an option to continue working from home. What options in Pattaya do I have for short term rental of 45 days after completing the 15 days quarantine. Considering that we need to show proof of accommodation to apply for the visa, are Airbnb bookings valid evidence? Air BNB does have monthly rental options. A decent broadband connection is also required. Budget accommodation near walking street or soi buakhao below 10 k Baht per month preferred. Thank you for your inputs.
LC.You sound like you're in IT. I thought this would be an option as well, since I'm also in IT. But there are large tax ramifications for a company's employee working internationally. Just make sure that your "work from home" also allows you to work abroad. It's usually not a problem if you're working in the US.
Loose Cannon
02-26-21, 21:17
You sound like you're in IT. I thought this would be an option as well, since I'm also in IT. But there are large tax ramifications for a company's employee working internationally. Just make sure that your "work from home" also allows you to work abroad. It's usually not a problem if you're working in the US.That is one huge hurdle which I though of taking a chance. I was hoping to fly under the radar on this working abroad part without alerting the authorities. This would be only a 2 month trip and by showing enough funds I hope to avoid questions. Also, As long as my deliverables are met, I won't have to worry about my company. My usual trips are 15 days. This time I got greedy and wanted 2 months.
Make 2+ hotel bookings after your ASQ stay. One at a hotel where you actually want to stay for a week or two. Make more hotel bookings for the remainder of your stay at a different hotels so you have something to show the IO. Just make sure your hotel bookings are free cancellation, even the first booking in case you get COVID during your flight and ASQ stay.
Thank you for your suggestion. That was inline with my plan as well. Book multiple bookings and once Boots on ground, negotiate directly, get a short term lease agreement done, and cancel the other bookings.
As I said, this was just planning ahead. Do mention other hurdles so that I come better prepared. I would be vaccinated before I come in order to reduce my risk and that of others. Lets hope the situation improves. Thank you.
SinfullyKorean
02-26-21, 22:20
That is one huge hurdle which I though of taking a chance. I was hoping to fly under the radar on this working abroad part without alerting the authorities. This would be only a 2 month trip and by showing enough funds I hope to avoid questions. Also, As long as my deliverables are met, I won't have to worry about my company. My usual trips are 15 days. This time I got greedy and wanted 2 months.
Thank you for your suggestion. That was inline with my plan as well. Book multiple bookings and once Boots on ground, negotiate directly, get a short term lease agreement done, and cancel the other bookings.
As I said, this was just planning ahead. Do mention other hurdles so that I come better prepared. I would be vaccinated before I come in order to reduce my risk and that of others. Lets hope the situation improves. Thank you.Good luck to you. But just be prepared for potential fall outs. If management finds out (not that hard to trace IP / login origins), they'll probably be obligated to tell you to get back ASAP. Companies can get slapped with tax fraud if they let you work from abroad.
For my company, they're talking about letting people back into the office soon (middle of this year). I'm planning on retiring soon anyways, so it might actually be interesting to see what they do if they catch me working from abroad. The thought is, "what's the worst they can do? Fire me?" LOL.
Hopefully, Pattaya / Phuket starts opening up to tourism soon.
Also, thank you at MrEnternational for the recommendation on SoiDB. Never new of that site. It'll be interesting trying to book places for 1 month at a time, affordable (500/ mo) but still decent living conditions (by western standards), and in close proximity to hobby spots.
You sound like you're in IT. I thought this would be an option as well, since I'm also in IT. But there are large tax ramifications for a company's employee working internationally. Just make sure that your "work from home" also allows you to work abroad. It's usually not a problem if you're working in the US.As long as you are being paid at "home," what's the problem?
HorseTrader
02-27-21, 01:26
Just make sure that your "work from home" also allows you to work abroad. It's usually not a problem if you're working in the US.
As long as you are being paid at "home," what's the problem?Depends on what work you are doing. Lots of technical work done in USA is regulated by export control laws. In my case, I cannot take any technical material outside of the USA without going through an approval process and getting written approval. That includes data on my computer or smartphone.
If your computer requires dual authentication through your smartphone, be sure the software on your smartphone will work in Thailand.
What do you suppose the guys sending money to chicks are?I'm guessing guys who have visited once or twice and dream of returning. They have regular jobs and with a lot of stuff closed nowhere to spend their money.
Pattaya "regulars" are just too cheap typically to ever do anything like ring the bell virtually, and are often retired and on a fixed income.
Mr Enternational
02-27-21, 16:44
Good luck to you. But just be prepared for potential fall outs. If management finds out (not that hard to trace IP / login origins), You mean like this past year when I was in Thailand collecting unemployment. The system was really slow one day, so I decided to login without my VPN. All kinds of red sirens went off. They wanted a copy of my passport, bank accounts, credit card statements, all to prove I was in the States. Needless to say, I did not send anything and just let them cut me off. Now you can not even log into the system with a VPN anymore.
Explorer8939
02-28-21, 01:13
Saturday night at Windmill: not many seats on the first floor, so I went up to the second floor. There, it was low energy, some seats available, but all the ladies were dancing, leaving the customers to just sit there. Not a good look.
I went to a couple of GCs, customers are very selective now. I sat with a lady who was waiting for a customer who promised he would barfine that night. He finally showed up, bought a couple of drinks and left without her.
A couple of Thai ladies from out of town showed up, they both were sponsored. One got hammered and was looking for a customer to fuck. I guess Thai men are still expensive in Pattaya.
Danny Duck
02-28-21, 02:29
You mean like this past year when I was in Thailand collecting unemployment. The system was really slow one day, so I decided to login without my VPN. All kinds of red sirens went off. They wanted a copy of my passport, bank accounts, credit card statements, all to prove I was in the States. Needless to say, I did not send anything and just let them cut me off. Now you can not even log into the system with a VPN anymore.How you collect unemployment? Aren't you a full time resident of Pattaya?
Danny Duck
02-28-21, 02:32
Saturday night at Windmill: not many seats on the first floor, so I went up to the second floor. There, it was low energy, some seats available, but all the ladies were dancing, leaving the customers to just sit there. Not a good look.
I went to a couple of GCs, customers are very selective now. I sat with a lady who was waiting for a customer who promised he would barfine that night. He finally showed up, bought a couple of drinks and left without her.
A couple of Thai ladies from out of town showed up, they both were sponsored. One got hammered and was looking for a customer to fuck. I guess Thai men are still expensive in Pattaya.Is it possible the girls know the Guys aren't spending money.
Spending habits of an ex-pat very different from that of a two week millionaire.
Banana Boi
02-28-21, 05:18
I went to a couple of GCs, customers are very selective now. Which G clubs did you go to? How many girls were in each club?
A couple of Thai ladies from out of town showed up, they both were sponsored. How do you know they were sponsored?
How you collect unemployment? Aren't you a full time resident of Pattaya?
Possibly because the USA was sending money to everyone, including 1.4 billion USD to dead people.
Explorer8939
02-28-21, 06:06
Which G clubs did you go to? How many girls were in each club?
How do you know they were sponsored?
.I went to Maggie Mays and the Cave, about 10 ladies in each. The 2 ladies have told me repeatedly that they are sponsored, over the years. It doesn't stop one of them from fooling around. She acknowledges being a bad girl.
Explorer8939
02-28-21, 06:08
Is it possible the girls know the Guys aren't spending money.
Spending habits of an ex-pat very different from that of a two week millionaire.No kidding. The dynamics of most of the bars have changed dramatically, with bars having the same customers over time, no more 2 week millionaires. And the customers are very picky who they barfine.
When I go to Windmill, I pass out some 100 baht bills early on. That seems to help.
Banana Boi
02-28-21, 06:54
I went to Maggie Mays and the Cave, about 10 ladies in each. I've never been to either bar but have walked by over 1000 times. For me these are bars and not what I would call G clubs. I have noticed a few bars around Pattaya now calling themselves G clubs which is wrong. Personally I stretch the word G clubs to include all the Pattaya BJ bars like the ones on Soi Full Love Inn, Excite, Telephone Bar, Bar La Poste, etc. Rooms upstairs for FS and BJ or you can just have sex in the middle of the bar if you wish. The real definition of a G club is a fairly large bar with a swimming pool and rooms. Popular ones pre-COVID were Kinnaree, Passion, Heaven, etc.
I've never been to either bar but have walked by over 1000 times. For me these are bars and not what I would call G clubs. I have noticed a few bars around Pattaya now calling themselves G clubs which is wrong. Personally I stretch the word G clubs to include all the Pattaya BJ bars like the ones on Soi Full Love Inn, Excite, Telephone Bar, Bar La Poste, etc. Rooms upstairs for FS and BJ or you can just have sex in the middle of the bar if you wish. The real definition of a G club is a fairly large bar with a swimming pool and rooms. Popular ones pre-COVID were Kinnaree, Passion, Heaven, etc.I know only Kinaree but I was there only pre covid! I fucked few ladies there before in rooms. But the girls don't look great like before few years ago. But yes you can fuck them easily even in the bar discreetly! When rooms are fully booked, if you don't want to wait girls accept! I was on the left of the bar, where you can seat on other tables and take a drink with the girls. I was there with my friend and I bought a drink to a girl, we spoke together very nice, she started to touch my dick and was ok we go fuck but waitress told us rooms were full. Discreetly I took the girl's panties off and she sat on me and I fucked her bareback.
Loose Cannon
03-02-21, 19:49
Good luck to you. But just be prepared for potential fall outs. If management finds out (not that hard to trace IP / login origins), they'll probably be obligated to tell you to get back ASAP. Companies can get slapped with tax fraud if they let you work from abroad.
For my company, they're talking about letting people back into the office soon (middle of this year). I'm planning on retiring soon anyways, so it might actually be interesting to see what they do if they catch me working from abroad. The thought is, "what's the worst they can do? Fire me?" LOL.
Hopefully, Pattaya / Phuket starts opening up to tourism soon.
Also, thank you at MrEnternational for the recommendation on SoiDB. Never new of that site. It'll be interesting trying to book places for 1 month at a time, affordable (500/ mo) but still decent living conditions (by western standards), and in close proximity to hobby spots.On the outside chance that I do enter after sorting out the work from Thailand situation, I have a follow up question. What are my options for cash pickup to self. Long term residents may have local banks. I used to be weekend millionaire staying at max 15 days and used to bring USD and manage my entire trip. I don't want to risk carrying money but don't see a point in opening a bank account. I see that only western union and xoom paypal are offering cash pickup. Both have crappy exchange rates. Also, What should be my address proof in Thailand if that is required as proof for collecting cash at pickup zone. Should I get a 1-2 month lease agreement and show that as proof.
Thanks alot for all your previous responses. Esp your IP address warning and MrE soidb website and BBois accommodation tips.
SirWilliam4
03-02-21, 23:28
On the outside chance that I do enter after sorting out the work from Thailand situation, I have a follow up question. What are my options for cash pickup to self. Long term residents may have local banks. I used to be weekend millionaire staying at max 15 days and used to bring USD and manage my entire trip. I don't want to risk carrying money but don't see a point in opening a bank account. I see that only western union and xoom paypal are offering cash pickup. Both have crappy exchange rates. Also, What should be my address proof in Thailand if that is required as proof for collecting cash at pickup zone. Should I get a 1-2 month lease agreement and show that as proof.
Thanks alot for all your previous responses. Esp your IP address warning and MrE soidb website and BBois accommodation tips.Just get an ATM card for your home country bank. Some, like mine, even reimburses the ATM fees. Exchange rates are good that way.
No fuss. No bother.
Just get an ATM card for your home country bank. Some, like mine, even reimburses the ATM fees. Exchange rates are good that way.
No fuss. No bother.Check on the fees and "Retail" FX rates used before committing. My regular Credit and Debit cards are horrendous for both. However, my bank does have a Travel Debit card which is much better.
Some of the online peer to peer banks eg TraveWise have cards with excellent rates but limited monthly withdrawl limits.
The OP is relying on a number of employment, tax, residency, work permit 'loopholes' remaining in place. I'm wondering what the plan is when one of those comes unstuck?
Cheers. G.
LittleBigMan
03-03-21, 02:09
It is an individual choice in all the years I've lived here I use mainly ATM from home although I have a number of local accounts here that money is set aside for other things. One provides me with all the fees paid at the end of the month.
I basically have a system if something happens to one card I can go to a backup until that card is reported and replaced. I suggest in your situation you have a combo, use ATM or Debit cards bring a sustainable amount of cash. When it comes to using ATM / Debit Cards with major local banks majority of them 220 baht for each transaction 150 baht for Aeon when it comes to rates all lower than what you will get if you go to an exchange booth example: USA Dollars if the posted rate at an exchange booth 29.80 an ATM bank machine might give you 29.50 that doesn't include the rate you pay as noted and the fee you pay usually 1% from where the card was issued.
If you do use a local ATM machine (cards are different) they will ask do you accept the fee 220? You push yes if another message comes on the screen giving you a breakdown of your transaction it will include the rate the bank wants to give you (a much lower rate) if you proceed PUSH NO! Your transaction will still continue doing so gives you the Internation rate and not the banks?
Loose Cannon
03-03-21, 02:20
Check on the fees and "Retail" FX rates used before committing. My regular Credit and Debit cards are horrendous for both. However, my bank does have a Travel Debit card which is much better.
Some of the online peer to peer banks eg TraveWise have cards with excellent rates but limited monthly withdrawl limits.
The OP is relying on a number of employment, tax, residency, work permit 'loopholes' remaining in place. I'm wondering what the plan is when one of those comes unstuck?
Cheers. G.Thank you G for your inputs. I checked a few websites mentioned below and found the work I do meets criteria of not taking work of local thai. If there is an issue with thai govt, I expect my visa to get rejected in first place. I know I am using the loopholes, but who isn't. I will need to only worry about my company not creating trouble.
https://www.thaiembassy.com/thailand/thailand-digital-nomad-visa-and-work-permit
https://hobowithalaptop.com/thailand-visas-explained
I am still in planning phase and have not bought tickets yet.
LC.
I use a Fidelity card that reimburses you for bank fees charged overseas or domestic. Charles Schwann also provides that service. And it is a very good idea to take an extra card for backup though these investment services generally don't allow you to have more than one. However, your normal bank Plus card will suffice as a backup until a new card is sent to you. Unlike most ATM's in the world, you have to wait for the card to be returned to you. On a couple of inebriated occasions, I walked away from the ATM in Thailand without retrieving the card and had to call and request another one be sent. With most machines now, you can't get your money until you retrieve your card. But TiT.
Of course, every once in a while you will encounter a balky machine that will not return the card. This happened to me recently in the Yucatáand where the machine kept my card. With the help of some local passerby I was able to finally extract my card after about 15 minutes of hitting a combo of different buttons. In any event, that is why an additional card is a good idea. And it's never a good time not to have access to your card.
It is an individual choice in all the years I've lived here I use mainly ATM from home although I have a number of local accounts here that money is set aside for other things. One provides me with all the fees paid at the end of the month.
I basically have a system if something happens to one card I can go to a backup until that card is reported and replaced. I suggest in your situation you have a combo, use ATM or Debit cards bring a sustainable amount of cash. When it comes to using ATM / Debit Cards with major local banks majority of them 220 baht for each transaction 150 baht for Aeon when it comes to rates all lower than what you will get if you go to an exchange booth example: USA Dollars if the posted rate at an exchange booth 29.80 an ATM bank machine might give you 29.50 that doesn't include the rate you pay as noted and the fee you pay usually 1% from where the card was issued.
If you do use a local ATM machine (cards are different) they will ask do you accept the fee 220? You push yes if another message comes on the screen giving you a breakdown of your transaction it will include the rate the bank wants to give you (a much lower rate) if you proceed PUSH NO! Your transaction will still continue doing so gives you the Internation rate and not the banks?
I know I am using the loopholes, but who isn't. I will need to only worry about my company not creating trouble.Fair enough. Tax has been all ready mentioned but make sure when you discuss your plans with them that you are also aware of risks to their formal corporate structure. Google "Permanent Establishment" for more details. I'm guessing you would not be popular if you forced them to start reporting a whole new Thai division. 🙂.
All the best. G.
Explorer8939
03-03-21, 03:09
I've never been to either bar but have walked by over 1000 times. For me these are bars and not what I would call G clubs. I have noticed a few bars around Pattaya now calling themselves G clubs which is wrong. Personally I stretch the word G clubs to include all the Pattaya BJ bars like the ones on Soi Full Love Inn, Excite, Telephone Bar, Bar La Poste, etc. Rooms upstairs for FS and BJ or you can just have sex in the middle of the bar if you wish. The real definition of a G club is a fairly large bar with a swimming pool and rooms. Popular ones pre-COVID were Kinnaree, Passion, Heaven, etc.In the newer GCs, most have curtains that surround a booth, so no need for a short time room.
In the newer GCs, most have curtains that surround a booth, so no need for a short time room.Just maintain the same breathing, moaning and rhythm as the guy on the other side of the curtain and privacy won't be an issue.
I don't want to risk carrying money but don't see a point in opening a bank account. I see that only western union and xoom paypal are offering cash pickup. Both have crappy exchange rates.I use Charles Schwab, They refund the ATM fees at the end of the month. Others are Sofi Money and Aspiration, they're internet banks. However, Aspiration will only refund 5 ATM fee's per month. You'll need to open a checking account and they'll sent a debit card.
HorseTrader
03-03-21, 04:55
I use a Fidelity card that reimburses you for bank fees charged overseas or domestic. Charles Schwann also provides that service. And it is a very good idea to take an extra card for backup though these investment services generally don't allow you to have more than one. However, your normal bank Plus card will suffice as a backup until a new card is sent to you.What you write about Fidelity card is exactly what I do and I can confirm what you say. The other benefit of the Fidelity card is that the exchange rate is excellent, it almost exactly matches what is posted on XE.com, which is better than any currency exchange place I've ever seen.
My backup card is my regular bank in USA, which doesn't have the sweet deal that Fidelity offers.
I also bring a small stack of cash in case all else fails.
Banana Boi
03-03-21, 04:58
I don't want to risk carrying money but don't see a point in opening a bank account. <snip>What should be my address proof in Thailand if that is required as proof for collecting cash at pickup zone. Should I get a 1-2 month lease agreement and show that as proof.You need a Certificate of Residency to open a bank account in Thailand. Getting a legit 1-2 month Lease Agreement is difficult AFAIK. Majority of leases are 6 or 12 months. Someone let me know if I'm wrong. I'm looking for a good place to rent for cheap in Bangkok for a couple of months.
If you're from the USA, use Charles Schwab. Unfortunately, they do not offer free ATM fees services if you reside in many countries outside USA or possibly Europe.
Remember there is a forgotten rule that you have to carry 20,000 baht (equivalent Euro or USD may be acceptable too but I'd carry Thai baht to be safe) with you when you enter Thailand. The IO could technically not allow you in if you do not.
I also bring a small stack of cash in case all else fails.
Always a good idea Cards fail in Thailand. One time I was trying to buy something at Central Festival from a legitimate store. Took me 3 credit cards to finally get the sale to go through. 1 of my cards was blocked after that.
Explorer8939
03-03-21, 06:07
Just maintain the same breathing, moaning and rhythm as the guy on the other side of the curtain and privacy won't be an issue.Usually, the music is so loud that you can't hear the next guy.
I was in a GC last night, and some guy got a BJ behind a curtain, it was like there was a Cone of Silence over him.
Jimmy Boy 99
03-03-21, 06:32
What you write about Fidelity card is exactly what I do and I can confirm what you say. The other benefit of the Fidelity card is that the exchange rate is excellent, it almost exactly matches what is posted on XE.com, which is better than any currency exchange place I've ever seen.
My backup card is my regular bank in USA, which doesn't have the sweet deal that Fidelity offers.
I also bring a small stack of cash in case all else fails.From https://www.fidelity.com/cash-management/faqs-atm-debit-card: "For each foreign transaction, there is a foreign transaction fee (currently, 1% of the transaction for non-US dollar transactions), which may be included in the amount charged to your account. This charge may apply whether or not there is a currency conversion. ".
This foreign transaction fee is why I don't use the card abroad, although I have it. I use Schwab and First Republic Bank, which charge no fees and reimburse ATM fees.
HorseTrader
03-03-21, 07:00
From https://www.fidelity.com/cash-management/faqs-atm-debit-card: "For each foreign transaction, there is a foreign transaction fee (currently, 1% of the transaction for non-US dollar transactions), which may be included in the amount charged to your account. This charge may apply whether or not there is a currency conversion. ".
.Very interesting that you have to pay such a fee. In February and March 2020 I used my Fidelity card extensively as an ATM card and never had a fee of any sort. Fidelity reimbursed the local ATM fee. Comparing the cash I got from the machine and the amount withdrawn from my account, I got an excellent exchange rate, which matched XE.com. I'm wondering if you used your card at a store as a credit card while I simply used my card as a debt card at the ATM.
If you're from the USA, use Charles Schwab. Unfortunately, they do not offer free ATM fees services if you reside in many countries outside USA or possibly Europe..Yes they do. If your a US resident residing internationally, Schwab transfers your bank holdings into a Global brokerage account and then will issue you an ATM card.
That refunds your ATM fees accordingly. I'm been living here in Pattaya 8 years now and have used it since.
You need a Certificate of Residency to open a bank account in Thailand. Getting a legit 1-2 month Lease Agreement is difficult AFAIK..Normally yes, but its not difficult on the ground in Pattaya right now. Places are extremely flexible during covid times.
LittleBigMan
03-03-21, 12:25
You need a Certificate of Residency to open a bank account in Thailand. Getting a legit 1-2 month Lease Agreement is difficult AFAIK. Majority of leases are 6 or 12 months. Someone let me know if I'm wrong. I'm looking for a good place to rent for cheap in Bangkok for a couple of months.
If you're from the USA, use Charles Schwab. Unfortunately, they do not offer free ATM fees services if you reside in many countries outside USA or possibly Europe.
Remember there is a forgotten rule that you have to carry 20,000 baht (equivalent Euro or USD may be acceptable too but I'd carry Thai baht to be safe) with you when you enter Thailand. The IO could technically not allow you in if you do not.
Always a good idea Cards fail in Thailand. One time I was trying to buy something at Central Festival from a legitimate store. Took me 3 credit cards to finally get the sale to go through. 1 of my cards was blocked after that.Not saying you are wrong I've opened a number of Bank account particularly with Bangkok Bank in Pattaya, the first account was open in 2000 on the Second Road across from Soi 6, 10 years ago, 2nd account on Sukhumvit, just before you get to Pattaya Klang, 3rd, 4 years ago, Darkside Siam Country Club all open with just my passport. Note: The first one I was still a tourist.
I've told a number of visitors who come several times a year wanted to open accounts have done so at Big see Extra on Pattaya Klang, the upstairs Green color bank also with just a passport. That is my experience.
Mr Enternational
03-03-21, 14:11
You need a Certificate of Residency to open a bank account in Thailand. Getting a legit 1-2 month Lease Agreement is difficult AFAIK. Majority of leases are 6 or 12 months.I do not think there will be a problem getting the lease. All it is is a piece of paper where they fill in the blanks of your name, how much you are paying, and how long you plan on staying, and put some kind of authentication stamp on the bottom. You basically get something saying the same stuff without the stamp even when you book a hotel online for 1 night. I can't see them saying no you can't get this piece of paper saying you are staying here.
The whole process is dumb anyway. They only make the certificate good for as long as your visa is good. Why can't the bank or driver's license place or whoever just look in the person's passport to see that, instead of having to go get a paper from the government saying that it says that? Bureaucracy.
Franciscass
03-03-21, 14:58
Not saying you are wrong I've opened a number of Bank account particularly with Bangkok Bank in Pattaya, the first account was open in 2000 on the Second Road across from Soi 6, 10 years ago, 2nd account on Sukhumvit, just before you get to Pattaya Klang, 3rd, 4 years ago, Darkside Siam Country Club all open with just my passport. Note: The first one I was still a tourist.
I've told a number of visitors who come several times a year wanted to open accounts have done so at Big see Extra on Pattaya Klang, the upstairs Green color bank also with just a passport. That is my experience.Spot on. I have helped umpteen visitors open bank accounts here. No big deal. Depends on the bank branch and what standards the local manager applies. Best use larger branches or head office and say you are staying for a lengthy period and want an account to be able to transfer money to. Helps if you have a chunk of change with you to deposit No need for residency or work permits, I have neither but have accounts with three different banks plus their credit cards.
Jimmy Boy 99
03-03-21, 17:20
Very interesting that you have to pay such a fee. In February and March 2020 I used my Fidelity card extensively as an ATM card and never had a fee of any sort. Fidelity reimbursed the local ATM fee. Comparing the cash I got from the machine and the amount withdrawn from my account, I got an excellent exchange rate, which matched XE.com. I'm wondering if you used your card at a store as a credit card while I simply used my card as a debt card at the ATM.I never use a debit card abroad except at ATMs. Credit card is much safer and more rewarding. You are correct about no foreign transaction fee at ATMs with the Fidelity debit card. When I first got the Fidelity debit card long ago, I asked if there were any foreign transactions fees and was told of the 1% fee, so I never used it, carrying it with me just for emergency use in case my Schwab and First Republic debit cards were stolen or didn't work. I called today and asked specifically if there was a fee for use at ATMs; after some confusion and the representative contacting someone else, was told there was no foreign transaction fee for using the card at ATMs. Thanks, as I will now be willing to use the card.
Member #4698
03-03-21, 18:21
1) I have been using the Schwab debit card for years and I highly recommend it. It has single handedly changed the way I conduct my affairs while travelling. Back in the old days before I had the Schwab card, I used to carry around thousands of crisp, clean, $100 dollar bills for a 2 month trip. What a pain in the ass! Nowadays I bring just $1000 cash for emergencies. Easy, Simple.
First Republic's debit card issued with their ATM Rebate Checking account sounds almost as good as Schwab, but I believe First Republic has a $500 minimum balance requirement while Schwab has no minimum balance requirement with their checking account.
2) Sim Cards: Of course, smart phones were a huge travel innovation when they first came out over 10 years ago, but what a pain having to swap out the home country sim card for a local sim card to text & download data, let alone make local calls every time you left a signed-in Wi-fi area.
They say knowing is in the doing, so I am not 100% sure of this, but I just switched domestic USA carriers from AT&T to T-Mobil. The reason I switched, aside from a $200 annual savings with the T-Mobil unlimited calling, data and texting plan in the USA is that T-Mobil promises (promotes) automatic unlimited texting and unlimited data (on their sim card) in over 200 countries including Brazil and Thailand, the 2 countries I am most interested in at the current moment. I checked with a couple of T-Mobil representatives and they both confirmed this travel innovation.
So I shall see what the truth is soon enough (next month). If my cell phone works in the taxi from GIG to my hotel located off Ipanema Beach, RJ, it will most definitely be a game changer. Ha! But I am bringing 2 cell phones to Brazil just in case the T-Mobil promise is not a reality.
1) I have been using the Schwab debit card for years and I highly recommend it. It has single handedly changed the way I conduct my affairs while travelling. Back in the old days before I had the Schwab card, I used to carry around thousands of crisp, clean, $100 dollar bills for a 2 month trip. What a pain in the ass! Nowadays I bring just $1000 cash for emergencies. Easy, Simple.
First Republic's debit card issued with their ATM Rebate Checking account sounds almost as good as Schwab, but I believe First Republic has a $500 minimum balance requirement while Schwab has no minimum balance requirement with their checking account.
2) Sim Cards: Of course, smart phones were a huge travel innovation when they first came out over 10 years ago, but what a pain having to swap out the home country sim card for a local sim card to text & download data, let alone make local calls every time you left a signed-in Wi-fi area.
They say knowing is in the doing, so I am not 100% sure of this, but I just switched domestic USA carriers from AT&T to T-Mobil. The reason I switched, aside from a $200 annual savings with the T-Mobil unlimited calling, data and texting plan in the USA is that T-Mobil promises (promotes) automatic unlimited texting and unlimited data (on their sim card) in over 200 countries including Brazil and Thailand, the 2 countries I am most interested in at the current moment. I checked with a couple of T-Mobil representatives and they both confirmed this travel innovation.
So I shall see what the truth is soon enough (next month). If my cell phone works in the taxi from GIG to my hotel located off Ipanema Beach, RJ, it will most definitely be a game changer. Ha! But I am bringing 2 cell phones to Brazil just in case the T-Mobil promise is not a reality.You will love the switch, don't know what took me so long getting hammered for many many years with att, I've used t mobile now in Medellin and Thailand with great success, and amazing costumer service, and even if you want the calling in and out feature free is very reasonable but I decided it's not even needed, the free stuff offer is good enough, now I need the Charles Swab card so I'm not also every trip bringing stacks of cash, I pm you bud, stay safe.
HorseTrader
03-03-21, 21:21
They say knowing is in the doing, so I am not 100% sure of this, but I just switched domestic USA carriers from AT&T to T-Mobil. The reason I switched, aside from a $200 annual savings with the T-Mobil unlimited calling, data and texting plan in the USA is that T-Mobil promises (promotes) automatic unlimited texting and unlimited data (on their sim card) in over 200 countries including Brazil and Thailand, the 2 countries I am most interested in at the current moment.Prior to 2020, my Thailand travel buddy used T-Mobil and I used ATT international plan in Thailand. His worked most of the time, mine worked all of the time. He paid just his normal USA rate while I paid my normal USA rate plus $13 per day extra. Modest difference in performance, huge difference in price.
For our 2020 trip, he continued to use T-Mobil and had spotty service. I spent about $15 for a Thai SIM card that lasted the 35 day trip and had great service.
Next time I buy a phone it will have dual SIM cards. Until then, I'll swap SIM cards upon arrival and upon departure.
I researched to get a dual sim card phone, the one plus six. Went to tmobile told them why I wanted that phone and bought. One plus six is dual sim except the ones T-Mobile sells. I don't think they sell a dual sim phone.
Prior to 2020, my Thailand travel buddy used T-Mobil and I used ATT international plan in Thailand. His worked most of the time, mine worked all of the time. He paid just his normal USA rate while I paid my normal USA rate plus $13 per day extra. Modest difference in performance, huge difference in price.
For our 2020 trip, he continued to use T-Mobil and had spotty service. I spent about $15 for a Thai SIM card that lasted the 35 day trip and had great service.
Next time I buy a phone it will have dual SIM cards. Until then, I'll swap SIM cards upon arrival and upon departure.
Next time I buy a phone it will have dual SIM cards. Until then, I'll swap SIM cards upon arrival and upon departure.Many mongers have two phones so that the home number can still be used for regular incoming and outgoing calls and the second phone can be used for extra curricular activities with no risk of confusing the two nor either seeing the other. I'd agree that local SIMs are easy and reliable.
It's a bit like pro athletes who keep one phone just for drugs test labs. It rings and you know straight away who it is. 🙂.
Mr Enternational
03-03-21, 22:15
Back in the old days before I had the Schwab card, I used to carry around thousands of crisp, clean, $100 dollar bills for a 2 month trip.$300,000 for a 2 month trip; you are the mf MAN!
Mr Enternational
03-03-21, 22:31
I just switched domestic USA carriers from AT&T to T-Mobil. My plan (Amplified Plan) also includes free calls and texts between USA, Mexico, and Canada in addition to the stuff you said. Total $70/month.
Next time I buy a phone it will have dual SIM cards.I think that may be outdated technology. They are hard to find in the USA. If you do find one, then it will be not as up to specs as you would want to use as your everyday phone. Without 5G for example. Recently some carriers have been trying to do away with traditional SIM cards for e-SIM cards.
Banana Boi
03-03-21, 23:49
Yes they do. If your a US resident residing internationally, Schwab transfers your bank holdings into a Global brokerage account and then will issue you an ATM card.
That refunds your ATM fees accordingly. I'm been living here in Pattaya 8 years now and have used it since.Reread what I wrote and I see how you could have come to this conclusion based on what I wrote. However, what I was trying to say is that if you are not an American, the services of Charles Schwab refunding you ATM fees is likely not available. Correct me if I am wrong because I would like to save 200 baht per each 25,000 baht withdrawal I make, several times per week. My option now are Aeon ATM machines but they aren't conveniently located for me.
You will love the switch, don't know what took me so long getting hammered for many many years with att, I've used t mobile now in Medellin and Thailand with great success,
For a good plan in Thailand try https://www.mybycat.com/en/ . They are located just up the street from Tukcom. Syzygies has posted about them in the past.
If you are traveling throughout Asia and don't feel like buying different SIM cards in each country you visit you can get something like AIS Sim2Fly card. It's not the cheapest option.
I use a dual SIM phone. Have for many years now.
Banana Boi
03-04-21, 00:06
Not saying you are wrong I've opened a number of Bank account particularly with Bangkok Bank in Pattaya, the first account was open in 2000 on the Second Road across from Soi 6, 10 years ago, 2nd account on Sukhumvit, just before you get to Pattaya Klang, 3rd, 4 years ago, Darkside Siam Country Club all open with just my passport. Note: The first one I was still a tourist.My understanding is that it is much more difficult for a tourist to open a Thai bank account now. Just what I read a couple of years ago. No personal experience. I also opened a Thai bank account as a tourist.
Normally yes, but its not difficult on the ground in Pattaya right now. Places are extremely flexible during covid times.
I'm sure you are right. Rent here is dirt cheap now. Places are just more than 50% the cost to rent as they were pre-COVID. I'm talking the newest condos in town. Those who live here know which ones I'm referring to.
Mr Enternational
03-04-21, 00:11
For a good plan in Thailand try https://www.mybycat.com/en/ . They are located just up the street from Tukcom. Syzygies has posted about them in the past. Tell you how that worked out. I got their 6 month plan 2 years ago. I could deliver a message faster on my bicycle than that internet was working. Threw that SIM card away 1 month into the plan and stuck with my AIS. Pure garbage. There is a reason the place stays empty.
Banana Boi
03-04-21, 00:15
Tell you how that worked out. I got their 6 month plan 2 years ago. I could deliver a message faster on my bicycle than that internet was working. Threw that SIM card away 1 month into the plan and stuck with my AIS. Pure garbage. There is a reason the place stays empty.Interesting. I did too and didn't notice any difference from the other providers I used in Thailand.
$300,000 for a 2 month trip; you are the mf MAN!
Good one. Natty was speaking $5,000 USD per day!
Member #4698
03-04-21, 01:28
$300,000 for a 2 month trip; you are the mf MAN!
Good one. Natty was speaking $5,000 USD per day!Damn, after all these years I have finally been outed. I am Charlie Sheen. Nice to meet you.
One Eyed Man
03-04-21, 02:45
Yes they do. If your a US resident residing internationally, Schwab transfers your bank holdings into a Global brokerage account and then will issue you an ATM card.
That refunds your ATM fees accordingly. I'm been living here in Pattaya 8 years now and have used it since.My broker warned me strongly not to change my address to an foreign one when I went overseas for a few years, as there would be a ton of extra tax-related paperwork to fill out, so I ended up getting a mailbox with a physical address from a company I've been using. It's about $30 a month.
I think that may be outdated technology. They are hard to find in the USA. If you do find one, then it will be not as up to specs as you would want to use as your everyday phone. Without 5G for example. Recently some carriers have been trying to do away with traditional SIM cards for e-SIM cards.You are correct. No US carrier sells a dual sim card phone. In fact I read the new Samsung S21 comes with the e-sim disabled so you only have the physical sim slot to use. Not sure if Apple does the same. For years I have been using the international Samsung phone with dual sims. Like you said you give up specs for dual sim functionality. The international phones come with a weaker processor than what is sold on the same phone in the US. As my Samsung S9+ is showing its age I have been debating what to do next.
My understanding is that it is much more difficult for a tourist to open a Thai bank account now. Just what I read a couple of years ago. No personal experience. I also opened a Thai bank account as a tourist..It is but its a numbers game. You may have to go 10 different banks to get an account. Not necessarily different companies, just different physical locations. It makes no sense that one Bangkok bank would approve you but the location 2 km away wouldn't but TIT don't expect things to make sense LOL.
However, what I was trying to say is that if you are not an American, the services of Charles Schwab refunding you ATM fees is likely not available..Not totally sure of the Schwab refund policy and which countries they cover, but I had no problems as Canadian getting ATM refunds when I use their card. But maybe policy have changed since my last use as I have not been traveling overseas for 2 yrs (actually about year and half) due to Covid restrictions.
so I am not 100% sure of this, but I just switched domestic USA carriers from AT&T to T-Mobil. The reason I switched, aside from a $200 annual savings with the T-Mobil unlimited calling, data and texting plan in the USA is that T-Mobil promises (promotes) automatic unlimited texting and unlimited data (on their sim card) in over 200 countries including Brazil and Thailand, the 2 countries. Ha! But I am bringing 2 cell phones to Brazil just in case the T-Mobil promise is not a reality.I've been with T-Mobile for 10 years. Yes, it works in Rio, Thailand and elsewhere. Once you arrive in a foreign country, turn on Data Roaming. Once you get a signal T-Mobile will send you a text advising you of unlimited data at up to 2G speed and texts at no extra costs. Local calls are 25 cents USD / min. I don't bother with that, I strictly use WIFI calling, as it's free. I've made and received calls using Soi 6 wifi. If you want faster speed, T-Mobile has an International Pass for $5 USD / day. I avoid that by using a Mobile Hot spot with a Local sim.
Not totally sure of the Schwab refund policy and which countries they cover, but I had no problems as Canadian getting ATM refunds when I use their card. But maybe policy have changed since my last use as I have not been traveling overseas for 2 yrs (actually about year and half) due to Covid restrictions.I've run into ATM's that won't accept the Schwab card, even though they're part of the Plus or Star network. I just use another bank's ATM. ALL my ATM fees are refunded. The back of the Schwab card has the networks it works with. BTW, I'm currently riding out the pandemic wave in Thailand. :D
My broker warned me strongly not to change my address to an foreign one when I went overseas for a few years, as there would be a ton of extra tax-related paperwork to fill out, so I ended up getting a mailbox with a physical address from a company I've been using. It's about $30 a month.The only additional tax form that I've annually been filling out due to me residing in Thailand is the FBAR form stating that you have over 10 K US $ in a foreign bank account. It takes less than 5 minutes to fill out online. I've been using my Pattaya address on my Federal tax 1040 with no problems.
Reread what I wrote and I see how you could have come to this conclusion based on what I wrote. However, what I was trying to say is that if you are not an American, the services of Charles Schwab refunding you ATM fees is likely not available. Correct me if I am wrong because I would like to save 200 baht per each 25,000 baht withdrawal I make, several times per week. My option now are Aeon ATM machines but they aren't conveniently located for me OK, that I don't know being an American. All I can say is I've used my Schwab card in various ATM's (Kbank, Bangkok Bank, TMB) here in the Jomtien area along with side trips to Hong Kong and Tokyo with no problems what so ever with getting my ATM fees refunded.
My broker warned me strongly not to change my address to an foreign one when I went overseas for a few years, as there would be a ton of extra tax-related paperwork to fill out, so I ended up getting a mailbox with a physical address from a company I've been using. It's about $30 a month.Thinking a little more about it, I should state that I am retired with no taxable income. You may still be employed by someone where I could see possible issues arising.
I've been with T-Mobile for 10 years. Yes, it works in Rio, Thailand and elsewhere. Once you arrive in a foreign country, turn on Data Roaming. Once you get a signal T-Mobile will send you a text advising you of unlimited data at up to 2G speed and texts at no extra costs. Local calls are 25 cents USD / min. I don't bother with that, I strictly use WIFI calling, as it's free. I've made and received calls using Soi 6 wifi. If you want faster speed, T-Mobile has an International Pass for $5 USD / day. I avoid that by using a Mobile Hot spot with a Local sim.
I've run into ATM's that won't accept the Schwab card, even though they're part of the Plus or Star network. I just use another bank's ATM. ALL my ATM fees are refunded. The back of the Schwab card has the networks it works with. BTW, I'm currently riding out the pandemic wave in Thailand.T-Mobile and Schwab abroad are the way to go! I used to carry cash around until I got that Schwab card years ago. And, I switched from AT&T to T-Mobile a few years ago. T-Mobile works exactly how you say.
You are correct. No US carrier sells a dual sim card phone. In fact I read the new Samsung S21 comes with the e-sim disabled so you only have the physical sim slot to use. Not sure if Apple does the same. For years I have been using the international Samsung phone with dual sims. Like you said you give up specs for dual sim functionality. The international phones come with a weaker processor than what is sold on the same phone in the US. As my Samsung S9+ is showing its age I have been debating what to do next.You can use eSIM with Apple. You don't have to get phone from the carrier. Amazon has many dual sim phones, but it may not be the model you want.
T-Mobile and Schwab abroad are the way to go! I used to carry cash around until I got that Schwab card years ago. And, I switched from AT&T to T-Mobile a few years ago. T-Mobile works exactly how you say.I agree with the Schwab debit card for saving on ATM fees wholeheartedly. But I somewhat disagree with everyone saying T-Mobile for cell service in Thailand. I'm assuming the goal is to keep your US phone number or I'm not sure what the benefit would be. Just getting AIS or True once in Thailand and swapping the sim card is cheaper and has faster data. The answer I've found is moving your US phone number to Google Voice. So now no matter what country I'm in, what cell service provider I have, I'll always have my US number. I can make calls / texts through the phone app or even from the computer. That's just my 2 cents. Spend $20 to port your number to Google Voice and don't look back. Then you just get the local cell service wherever you go and your number will always be with you.
I agree with the Schwab debit card for saving on ATM fees wholeheartedly. But I somewhat disagree with everyone saying T-Mobile for cell service in Thailand. I'm assuming the goal is to keep your US phone number or I'm not sure what the benefit would be. Just getting AIS or True once in Thailand and swapping the sim card is cheaper and has faster data. The answer I've found is moving your US phone number to Google Voice. So now no matter what country I'm in, what cell service provider I have, I'll always have my US number. I can make calls / texts through the phone app or even from the computer. That's just my 2 cents. Spend $20 to port your number to Google Voice and don't look back. Then you just get the local cell service wherever you go and your number will always be with you.Yeah well, I just don't want to mess with all that. All I got to do is turn on data roaming on my phone, and voila T-Mobile works for me. I'm happy with that.
OK, that I don't know being an American. All I can say is I've used my Schwab card in various ATM's (Kbank, Bangkok Bank, TMB) here in the Jomtien area along with side trips to Hong Kong and Tokyo with no problems what so ever with getting my ATM fees refunded.One has to be a US citizen or resident to open a US bank account. Schwab is a US bank.
Yeah well, I just don't want to mess with all that. All I got to do is turn on data roaming on my phone, and voila T-Mobile works for me. I'm happy with that.Yeah, I don't want to do that. Am Happy as is. He's got a good idea though. But getting a sim after landing somewhere can be hassle. (Gotta register the damn thing.) I like that T-Mobile works upon landing and getting a signal.
Thinking a little more about it, I should state that I am retired with no taxable income. You may still be employed by someone where I could see possible issues arising.That's pretty good. You have no taxable income and still able to live a reasonable life.
Not sure if you are receiving a pension and social security but aren't they somewhat taxable?
I could perhaps understand living on a small budget with lower expenses in an Asian country and getting by with that.
But mongering is still somewhat expensive. Love to know how to do that correctly as I'm close to retirement myself and need lots of useful tips and pointers.
Cheers.
LittleBigMan
03-05-21, 14:09
One has to be a US citizen or resident to open a US bank account. Schwab is a US bank.Schwab is a bank but what they are mostly known for is for being a brokerage. You don't need to be a citizen or resident to open a brokerage account but there are stipulations. I suggest those who want to know if opening a brokerage allows for opening a checking and obtaining an ATM card can contact them just Google.
LittleBigMan
03-05-21, 14:27
That's pretty good. You have no taxable income and still able to live a reasonable life.
Not sure if you are receiving a pension and social security but aren't they somewhat taxable?
I could perhaps understand living on a small budget with lower expenses in an Asian country and getting by with that.
But mongering is still somewhat expensive. Love to know how to do that correctly as I'm close to retirement myself and need lots of useful tips and pointers.
Cheers.Personally, there really isn't a lot to think about? It depends on your tax bracket when it comes to pensions and social security taking taxes out is an option you can say no or take this much out! I highly suggest you check with an accountant they can tell based on your bracket the projected Fed, State taxes and have them taken out prior to their deposit. I have a cousin who lives here I would estimate his pension and S. S. Is something like 32-35,000 USD, he pays no States Taxes in California and takes out something like 800.00 USD Fed for that income each year he files his return and gets the majority of it back. He's lived here for 10 years never a dull moment for him or me when he is around.
Explorer8939
03-05-21, 15:53
I walked down Soi Chaiyapoon last night (stumbled, actually) and saw that I was the only Farang on the street. Great for me, not so much for the bargirls.
I cannot remember a better time to be in Pattaya.
I agree with the Schwab debit card for saving on ATM fees wholeheartedly. But I somewhat disagree with everyone saying T-Mobile for cell service in Thailand. I'm assuming the goal is to keep your US phone number or I'm not sure what the benefit would be. Just getting AIS or True once in Thailand and swapping the sim card is cheaper and has faster data. The answer I've found is moving your US phone number to Google Voice. So now no matter what country I'm in, what cell service provider I have, I'll always have my US number. I can make calls / texts through the phone app or even from the computer. That's just my 2 cents. Spend $20 to port your number to Google Voice and don't look back. Then you just get the local cell service wherever you go and your number will always be with you.Not sure what you mean by saying it's cheaper to get a sim (which I did for many years) but now switched to t mobile and my bill is 55 a month every month of the year even while in Thailand for 2 months at a time (even Medellin same) , please tell me where I save more money by getting a sim on top of having my t mobile, thanks, I land I turn on my phone and done, haven't looked back since, no more blood sucking att I had for many many years!
Mr Enternational
03-05-21, 16:57
I walked down Soi Chaiyapoon last night (stumbled, actually) and saw that I was the only Farang on the street. Great for me, not so much for the bargirls.
I cannot remember a better time to be in Pattaya.I don't know why people would always worry about a high and low season before. I guess they wanted to come at a time when they would have to share all the girls.
Not sure what you mean by saying it's cheaper to get a sim (which I did for many years) but now switched to t mobile and my bill is 55 a month every month of the year even while in Thailand for 2 months at a time (even Medellin same) , please tell me where I save more money by getting a sim on top of having my t mobile, thanks, I land I turn on my phone and done, haven't looked back since, no more blood sucking att I had for many many years!I have T-Mobile and I pay US $50/ month which includes taxes. In Thailand I use my AIS Sim. AIS has much faster data than TMo and my Thai friends have an easier (and cheaper) time calling my Thai phone number than my US phone number. Outgoing calls in Thailand cost about B1. 00/ minute with AIS and incoming Thai calls are free. Calls to the US from Thailand are US. 09/ minute, but I don't do that much. Family and friends reach me via What's App or Viber.
Yes you can save money this way. T Mobile puts my TMo account on vacation hold and I don't have to pay the $50/ monthly fee while I'm gone. This only works if you leave for a month or more. Don't think its applicable to 1-2 week trips.
I have T-Mobile and I pay US $50/ month which includes taxes. In Thailand I use my AIS Sim. AIS has much faster data than TMo and my Thai friends have an easier (and cheaper) time calling my Thai phone number than my US phone number. Outgoing calls in Thailand cost about B1. 00/ minute with AIS and incoming Thai calls are free. Calls to the US from Thailand are US. 09/ minute, but I don't do that much. Family and friends reach me via What's App or Viber.
Yes you can save money this way. T Mobile puts my TMo account on vacation hold and I don't have to pay the $50/ monthly fee while I'm gone. This only works if you leave for a month or more. Don't think its applicable to 1-2 week trips.Their you go now that makes sense, good thinking, and love to have the option as well, and yes I totally forgot about T mobile will put your account on hold for a month or more! Brings up another subject I do all the time, my car insurance is with Allstate and one of my cars are paid off, so when I travel (a month or more) call Allstate and put only requirements (pip) needed on that vehicle and they send rebate check " !
Schwab is a bank but what they are mostly known for is for being a brokerage. You don't need to be a citizen or resident to open a brokerage account but there are stipulations. I suggest those who want to know if opening a brokerage allows for opening a checking and obtaining an ATM card can contact them just Google.I had a Schwab Bank Account when I was residing in the states. After notifying them on my intentions of moving to Thailand, Schwab then transferred my holdings into a Global brokerage account and issued me a ATM card connected to it.
Their you go now that makes sense, good thinking, and love to have the option as well, and yes I totally forgot about T mobile will put your account on hold for a month or more! Brings up another subject I do all the time, my car insurance is with Allstate and one of my cars are paid off, so when I travel (a month or more) call Allstate and put only requirements (pip) needed on that vehicle and they send rebate check " !I'll try that with my AAA auto insurance. Thanks for mentioning it. T-Mobile and my cable and internet providers allow me to save when I leave the country as well.
Banana Boi
03-06-21, 04:18
I don't know why people would always worry about a high and low season before. High and low season was more for the bargirls imo. They are the ones who used the term because they all looked forward to high season meaning more customers and cash. This term start diluting in Pattaya even 2 years pre-COVID as money wasn't even flowing at a higher rate for the girls in high season. Still remember girls asking me why there is no high season this year. I'm guessing it's because prices of lady drinks nearly doubled from 2015 to 2018, barfines on a certain Soi increased, and the introduction of the term models became more prominent. To me all it meant was much cooler weather in high season.
Danny Duck
03-06-21, 19:28
High and low season was more for the bargirls imo. They are the ones who used the term because they all looked forward to high season meaning more customers and cash. This term start diluting in Pattaya even 2 years pre-COVID as money wasn't even flowing at a higher rate for the girls in high season. Still remember girls asking me why there is no high season this year. I'm guessing it's because prices of lady drinks nearly doubled from 2015 to 2018, barfines on a certain Soi increased, and the introduction of the term models became more prominent. To me all it meant was much cooler weather in high season.Retail. High season Christmas. Make lots of money.
BarGirls. High season. Make lots of money.
A superstar in high season makes $5,000. Low season 3,000.
See the issue.
A bottom girl high season make 500 a month. Low season $300 a month.
Does matter.
To be fair last 5 years hard to tell seasons in Bangkok. Always look low season.
I think it's more how the country has been run.
High and low season was more for the bargirls imo. They are the ones who used the term because they all looked forward to high season meaning more customers and cash.It's possible that this high low season stuff was initiated by hotels as they were the quickest to use that excuse to explain their inflated prices.
You are correct sir! Thailand is completely binary. Either they do or don't, will or won't. Pattaya is completely overrun with poor and dark Isaan poon that most legit Thai men (as in non-laborers, non-motorbike taxi, or businessmen) won't go near. Newbie farang goes to Patts, fall in love and marry. Once in Sukhamvit Rd. A very hot non-pro gave me a look to kill me upon my proposition, hehe!LOL. I look forward to aiding the "poor" in the LOS the Land of Smiles.
Those on BR Beach Road in Pattaya are of particular interest. From watching many youtube videos of BR it seems there may have been at least as many attractive ladies there in 2020 and 2021 as in 2018 and 2019. BTW I wonder how many of those of 2020 and 2021 would usually be working in a gogo, beer bar or other PFP pay for play venue during pre covid times.
Also I noticed that often the BR ladies are approached by those of apparently Southern Asian origin.
P.S. My Singapore report:
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?1831-Geylang&p=1955649&viewfull=1#post1955649.
Post number 3 at:
https://perb.cc/xenforo/threads/red-light-district-rld-of-geylang-in-singapore.200557/#post-1513805.
555.
"I'm sure she did everything you wanted. Did you remember to deflate her after." (Strike Back, Season 1).
Explorer8939
03-10-21, 03:07
I went to the Den on Soi Chaiyapoon the other day. It's a very comfortable establishment, nice sofas, scantily clad ladies. My only complaint is the Mamasan who directs the ladies. Too much control.
Explorer8939
03-10-21, 03:17
You are correct sir! Thailand is completely binary. Either they do or don't, will or won't. Pattaya is completely overrun with poor and dark Isaan poon that most legit Thai men (as in non-laborers, non-motorbike taxi, or businessmen) won't go near. Newbie farang goes to Patts, fall in love and marry. Once in Sukhamvit Rd. A very hot non-pro gave me a look to kill me upon my proposition, hehe!These dark Isaan ladies come from villages where their options for a hookup don't include businessmen, mostly they see laborers, farmers, or other working class types. So nothing new for them in Pattaya, except for the hordes of motorbike taxi guys.
What is different is that there is a concentration of Tomboys in the bigger cities, so they are exposed to that option as soon as they earn some baht. What amazes me is that I never see older ladies hooked up with older Tomboys, ie long term relationships. It's as if Tomboys are a recent innovation. I guess in the old days, Tomboys were closeted, and endured relationships with men.
BTW, if you want to know if your barfine is living with her Thai boyfriend, just ask if she has a room in the bar, if no, it generally means she shares a room with a Thai man.
IMHO guys not visiting Gogo bars fall into two categories. Ones who can't afford it and ones who are not let in. Anyone else is lying. 5555.Personally I've been in gogos and can well afford to take even the most expensive gals there, but don't care for the environment as opposed to that of the easier picking up of SWs street walkers.
Being around noisy music and customers in a smoke filled dark place where communication is more difficult is not my idea of fun.
The availability of alcohol means nothing to me as I don't drink it and prefer that my sex partner is sober as opposed to drunk out of her mind.
That I'm already well experienced with and satisfied with SWs doesn't encourage me to learn the new game of picking up ladies elsewhere.
Moreover picking up SWs requires less game. The less I have to work at getting a PFP pay for play gal the better.
Not having to dick around with or pay for lady drinks or BFs bar fines or learn the individual rules of each gogo is just a bonus incentive to all of the above to avoiding them altogether.
To each their own.
Explorer8939
03-11-21, 15:56
My usual M. O. is to hold off on sex until night time (unless I have barfined a lady long time). So, during the day, I prefer to go to a bar where I can play with a lady. What I am finding is that customers are so few that a lady will respond to a couple of drinks by removing her clothes, nobody is shy anymore. The level of naughtiness is a lot higher than the pre-Covid days. So, I will diddle and get diddle during the day, and hold off on a night lady.
The news today is that the number of visitors in Pattaya is 1% of the number a year ago, so the ladies are hungry.
There are still plenty of ladies, so quantity and quality are not a problem.
Personally I've been in gogos and can well afford to take even the most expensive gals there, but don't care for the environment as opposed to that of the easier picking up of SWs street walkers.
Being around noisy music and customers in a smoke filled dark place where communication is more difficult is not my idea of fun.
The availability of alcohol means nothing to me as I don't drink it and prefer that my sex partner is sober as opposed to drunk out of her mind.
That I'm already well experienced with and satisfied with SWs doesn't encourage me to learn the new game of picking up ladies elsewhere.
Moreover picking up SWs requires less game. The less I have to work at getting a PFP pay for play gal the better.
Not having to dick around with or pay for lady drinks or BFs bar fines or learn the individual rules of each gogo is just a bonus incentive to all of the above to avoiding them altogether.
To each their own.I agree with you. I can also afford those expensive GoGo girls but I recently stopped patronizing them for the same reasons you did. I am very content with SWs, not too difficult to find decent looking girls, and much less expensive.
Danny Duck
03-12-21, 04:26
I find it extremely difficult to find street walkers better than a five. LOL. What gives with you two?
HorseTrader
03-12-21, 05:48
Personally I've been in gogos and can well afford to take even the most expensive gals ...
Being around noisy music and customers in a smoke filled dark place where communication is more difficult is not my idea of fun.
The availability of alcohol means nothing to me as I don't drink it and prefer that my sex partner is sober as opposed to drunk out of her mind.
This is exactly how I feel, the worst part is music is too loud. But, go-go places have some of the best looking girls and I often visit them. I go in and look around, I walk out unless I see something I want. If I like what I see, I'll buy myself a drink. I'll watch and then maybe buy my favorite girl a drink. Usually one lady drink is enough for me to decide to either bar fine or send her away. Never more than 2 lady drinks per girl. Many times I'm walking out of the bar with my BF 20-30 minutes after I walk in. Sometimes I'll buy one girl a drink and then bar fine her friend (my favorite go-go girl of February 2020 was taken that way).
I don't think I've ever spent more than 90 minutes in a single go-go. Never bought myself more than 2 drinks. Too darn noisy, can damage your hearing.
When I need vegetables and fruits, I go to the market, pick my produce, and get out. I think of the go-go places as the markets with the freshest and best looking produce.
Personally I've been in gogos and can well afford to take even the most expensive gals there, but don't care for the environment as opposed to that of the easier picking up of SWs street walkers.
Being around noisy music and customers in a smoke filled dark place where communication is more difficult is not my idea of fun.
The availability of alcohol means nothing to me as I don't drink it and prefer that my sex partner is sober as opposed to drunk out of her mind.
That I'm already well experienced with and satisfied with SWs doesn't encourage me to learn the new game of picking up ladies elsewhere.
Moreover picking up SWs requires less game. The less I have to work at getting a PFP pay for play gal the better.
Not having to dick around with or pay for lady drinks or BFs bar fines or learn the individual rules of each gogo is just a bonus incentive to all of the above to avoiding them altogether.
To each their own.I'm guessing spending more than 500 baht a shag isn't your idea of fun either LOL.
MutantChicken
03-12-21, 20:45
I'm guessing spending more than 500 baht a shag isn't your idea of fun either LOL.Maybe I wasn't given the memo, given to all the kool kids, but what is wrong with someone happy paying 500 bht for a shag. I wish I had the stomach to "eat" what was available for 500 baht pre-covid, but at that time my 1000-1500 baht finds were comparable to the 4000+baht gogo girls the kool kids were walking around with. More often the very same girls were available for 1/2 price out of office hours, no need to believe me. Just look back at monkeypaws posts where originally he posted that he was so proud that he could get the hottest girls paying only 4 k-6 k with all his game. But later he found the very same girls in the thermae (available to practically anyone no game needed) when they left Pattaya to go to Bangkok for some errands, available for 1500-2000. Likewise you can easily find current gogo girls working at some of the Gclubs before they start work at the gogo bars avail for 1500.
So please enlighten me what's so smart about paying full price aka the NGO kwai surcharge when you can easily enjoy the discounted price.
Anyway I'm sure you will be just as smug when you discover that the 4 k gogo girl that you barfined last week on PP arm for which he paid 500 baht because he met her out of the gogo, so please make sure you take a pic so we can all laugh at PP expense. Further come on even a guy flipping burgers can afford to go to a gogo bar and pay 6 k for a girl, so don't be claiming that guys who go there are somehow economic success compared to those who chose not to. I for one like going to the gogo, but I also think that its not economically efficient to hunt from there.
MutantChicken
03-12-21, 21:07
I find it extremely difficult to find street walkers better than a five. LOL. What gives with you two?I'm with you on this, in my last trip to pattaya precovid I came sex drained after fucking 12-15 girls in the previous month, as such finding women wasn't imperative. I spent around 20 days in pattaya and everyday from 5 pm till 7 pm I would slowly walk the whole length of beach road from soi 6 to walking street looking for attractive SW and collecting their lines ID as part of my exercise regime. I would go home shower then hit the gogobars, then take another look around 12. In that period of time I believe I fucked 4-5 gogo quality girls for 1000ST, with a extra 3-4 that was acceptable for that price that I didn't follow through. Most of my finds were in lesser know bars / massage / gclubs etc and TF where I paid on avg 1500. In summary its pretty rare and labour intensive to find a 7+ SW, but its equally foolish to claim that gogo bars are the best and most economic way to hunt for attractive women.
I find it extremely difficult to find street walkers better than a five. LOL. What gives with you two?You are just too picky! Or you don't take the time to look for decent SWs. I met a couple over the years who used to work in GoGo bars, then decided to go the FL route. According to them, more freedom and flexibility. They also claimed they made just as much money.
When I first went to Thailand back in 2003, GoGo bars were my favorites as they had the best looking girls. I did that for a good 15+ years. I took a trip every year, split between Pattaya and Bangkok. Once in a while, I ventured somewhere else, like Phuket, Koh Samui, Hua Hin, etc. But over the years, it became very clear to me that the GoGo bars model was designed to get as much money as they can from their customers. I preferred to give that money to the girls, as I thought the bars were well compensated. Those mamasans can smell the money miles away and you need their ok to get the girl out. I started to think about various tricks to get my girl as early as possible, even bribing mamasans when I could. With the arrival of the rich Koreans and Chinese mongers, it became hopelessly expensive. Yet, I was able, and still do, to find decent looking SW.
I'm guessing spending more than 500 baht a shag isn't your idea of fun either LOL.For me, it had nothing to do with the money. When I travel to Thailand, I usually spend 2 or 3 weeks and I behave like the one-week millionaire. Rather, it's the behavior of the crew working in the bars and constantly harassing their customers to spend more money. Of course you can say no, but it gets tiring after a while. And now, with the arrival of the Korean and Chinese mongers, it's became even tougher to score with a real eye candy. They tend to grab them first.
I'm with you on this, in my last trip to pattaya precovid I came sex drained after fucking 12-15 girls in the previous month, as such finding women wasn't imperative. I spent around 20 days in pattaya and everyday from 5 pm till 7 pm I would slowly walk the whole length of beach road from soi 6 to walking street looking for attractive SW and collecting their lines ID as part of my exercise regime. I would go home shower then hit the gogobars, then take another look around 12. In that period of time I believe I fucked 4-5 gogo quality girls for 1000ST, with a extra 3-4 that was acceptable for that price that I didn't follow through. Most of my finds were in lesser know bars / massage / gclubs etc and TF where I paid on avg 1500. In summary its pretty rare and labour intensive to find a 7+ SW, but its equally foolish to claim that gogo bars are the best and most economic way to hunt for attractive women.Interesting. That sort of jives with what I've seen on youtube vids of BR Beach Road. IOW there is a low percentage of lookers there. Yet, actually, it might surprise you that, I'd be satisfied with those results of yours. When one is living in Asia for months at a time or indefinitely and with no need to take a lady today or even this week, there is plenty of time and no sense of urgency as is the case with someone who's in town for just a few days and has to get laid every day. BTW I wonder how many SW ladies you saw per 2 hour walk from soi 6 to walking street and if you checked out the non beach side of BR for available ladies sitting around waiting for customers.
I find it extremely difficult to find street walkers better than a five. LOL. What gives with you two?ISG member Monkey Paw reported taking a non beach side of BR gal & I doubt he was spending much time at it. Did he just get lucky with finding a lady in accord with his very high standards?
Pattaya, Phuket and Vancouver may be more of a challenge, but I've never found it difficult in Bangkok or Singapore. I'd suggest seeing my Bangkok and Singapore reports, as well as recent years youtube videos of all five places. Videos show quite a few attractive ladies on BR, whom I'd rate at 6 or higher, but beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Your 5 may be someone else's 7.
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?1831-Geylang&p=1955649&viewfull=1#post1955649.
Post number 3 at:
https://perb.cc/xenforo/threads/red-light-district-rld-of-geylang-in-singapore.200557/#post-1513805.
Many times I'm walking out of the bar with my BF 20-30 minutes after I walk in. Due to personal health issues I'm more comfortable with the usual 20 or 30 seconds to close the deal with a SW street walker. As distinct from sitting in a venue for a relatively long time. I also enjoy the fresher air and exercise outdoors.
I'm guessing spending more than 500 baht a shag isn't your idea of fun either LOL.In 2014 I was spending 1000 on lady SWs street walkers outside the Nana Hotel in Bangkok, and 2000 per hour if they were keepers or showed me a good time. So 8000 for a four banging session. On one rare occasion even 20 K for a few hours because she asked for it. Some of these were ex NEP high quality lookers. Some of the others could have been if they wanted to work there.
Explorer8939
03-13-21, 05:14
For me, it had nothing to do with the money. When I travel to Thailand, I usually spend 2 or 3 weeks and I behave like the one-week millionaire. Rather, it's the behavior of the crew working in the bars and constantly harassing their customers to spend more money. Of course you can say no, but it gets tiring after a while. And now, with the arrival of the Korean and Chinese mongers, it's became even tougher to score with a real eye candy. They tend to grab them first.Of course, now there are few, if any, Chinese or Korean customers, and many gogos are closed. So a lot of former gogo ladies are now working in small bars, and will go ST for small money.
Explorer8939
03-14-21, 02:58
Last night, I went to a GC on Soi Chaiyapoon and had some drinks with ladies. There were other customers in the bar, and it happened that every lady got naked at the same time. The front door was locked, the clothes came off, so I had a naked lady on either side of me. After more drinks, one of my ladies passed out, other guys were getting BJs and then leaving, and by midnight, things had returned to normal.
Another Saturday night on Soi Chaiyapoon.
GuyBrusg1957
03-15-21, 04:37
I find it extremely difficult to find street walkers better than a five. LOL. What gives with you two?Same. Has anyone been to the large soapies like La Belle or Emmanuel? I'm going to try these and see if they are better.
Explorer8939
03-15-21, 09:00
Same. Has anyone been to the large soapies like La Belle or Emmanuel? I'm going to try these and see if they are better.I don't know those 2 soapies, but I don't know of any soapies in Pattaya that are open.
I don't know those 2 soapiesThose are/were Bangkok soapies.
Explorer8939
03-16-21, 02:04
Those are/were Bangkok soapies.In later years, soapies in Pattaya started to depend on Indian tour groups. Customers would arrive in minivans. Since there are virtually zero Indians in Pattaya now, the soapies are closed.
Mr Enternational
03-16-21, 04:36
In later years, soapies in Pattaya started to depend on Indian tour groups. Customers would arrive in minivans.Shit. The only one they would arrive in a minivan to was the one on Soi Honey. At the rest of the soapies they would arrive in buses.
Banana Boi
03-16-21, 18:07
Since there are virtually zero Indians in Pattaya now, the soapies are closed.Unless it closed this week, Sabai Room is open. Not sure about Rasputin since I haven't walked down that soi lately.
Indians swarm to the soapies because they are the ONLY places where the girls are not allowed to say no to a session. If a girl says no to a guy the girl must pay back the soapie the barfine money. The Indians love it because they go in their group of 10 guys and 1 of the 10 gets a session while the other 9 have a place with girls in it to hang out for a couple of hours. The next night guy #2 has his session and so on. No need to buy drinks either so it's a cheap night.
There were other customers in the bar, and it happened that every lady got naked at the same time.
I would have ran if every girl got naked at any bar on Soi Pothole.
Explorer8939
03-16-21, 18:17
I did something different tonight, I went to a private room at a bar, and bought drinks for 3 ladies. Within an hour, they were all naked. Big fun.
How much did you spend? I'm hoping to get back to Thailand sometime this summer, if quarantine changes. What kind of car was it? I usually went to open air beer bars.
I appreciate new field reports. So I can live vicariously.
Thanks.
I did something different tonight, I went to a private room at a bar, and bought drinks for 3 ladies. Within an hour, they were all naked. Big fun.
Explorer8939
03-17-21, 01:12
How much did you spend? I'm hoping to get back to Thailand sometime this summer, if quarantine changes. What kind of car was it? I usually went to open air beer bars.
I appreciate new field reports. So I can live vicariously.
Thanks.I got a windfall, a mystery deposit in my bank account, so I spent like a drunken sailor, about 10,000 baht for the 3 ladies' drinks.
This was a gentlemens club on Soi Chaiyapoon.
It sounds like you had fun. Thanks for the answer. I like reading field reports.
I got a windfall, a mystery deposit in my bank account, so I spent like a drunken sailor, about 10,000 baht for the 3 ladies' drinks.
This was a gentlemens club on Soi Chaiyapoon.
It's possible that this high low season stuff was initiated by hotels as they were the quickest to use that excuse to explain their inflated prices.Yes, high / low season are usually the outcome of the travel industry. Whether it was the hotel or airlines. Based on the law of supply and demand. Charging higher prices when supply is low. The bars and girls have also learn from that and just makes sense to follow the trend.
Like they say. It's not personal, its just business.
Cheers.
Yes, high / low season are usually the outcome of the travel industry. Whether it was the hotel or airlines. Based on the law of supply and demand. Charging higher prices when supply is low. The bars and girls have also learn from that and just makes sense to follow the trend.
Like they say. It's not personal, its just business.
Cheers.Besides not knowing how to cut your losses, and what opportunity costs are the idea of loosing face changes all the dynamics of good economic actions here. Like low customer volume, then up the prices to make the total you expect to make. Volume and lower margins?
Besides not knowing how to cut your losses, and what opportunity costs are the idea of loosing face changes all the dynamics of good economic actions here. Like low customer volume, then up the prices to make the total you expect to make. Volume and lower margins?Yes, that's why I left what I said with the Mafia slogan " It's not personal, it's just business".
Cheers.
SinfullyKorean
03-18-21, 08:04
Just out of curiosity, does anybody know if they do short term (weekly / monthly) rentals for rooms above the bars on Soi 6?
Just out of curiosity, does anybody know if they do short term (weekly / monthly) rentals for rooms above the bars on Soi 6?I think that one bar was toying with the idea but the bars usually rent out the rooms to the girls that work there. If you really want to stay on Soi 6 then the best (maybe only) choice is to stay at the Queen Victoria.
Explorer8939
03-18-21, 09:42
Just out of curiosity, does anybody know if they do short term (weekly / monthly) rentals for rooms above the bars on Soi 6?I have stayed in a room above a bar on Soi 6.
Just out of curiosity, does anybody know if they do short term (weekly / monthly) rentals for rooms above the bars on Soi 6?If you value your sleep, you may want to re-think that one, LOL.
SinfullyKorean
03-18-21, 19:49
I have stayed in a room above a bar on Soi 6.Do you remember what rate you paid (daily / weekly)?
SinfullyKorean
03-18-21, 19:52
If you value your sleep, you may want to re-think that one, LOL.For sure, I'm well aware of how noisy it is throughout the night with the traffic, people, construction, etc. Depending on how expensive it is, I might just try it for a week. There's the convenience of being right next to all the action, food, beer, and the beach. But inconvenience of bad sleep.
If you value your sleep, you may want to re-think that one, LOL.Not to mention ones sanity. 😁.
Though I expect the OP isn't selecting Soi 6 for the downe pillows and comfortable bedding. Sleep may be low on the list of priorities for nocturnal activities.
Danny Duck
03-19-21, 01:32
I got a windfall, a mystery deposit in my bank account, so I spent like a drunken sailor, about 10,000 baht for the 3 ladies' drinks.
This was a gentlemens club on Soi Chaiyapoon.Chances are you will be asked for return of mystery deposit.
GinAndTonic555
03-19-21, 06:49
For sure, I'm well aware of how noisy it is throughout the night with the traffic, people, construction, etc. Depending on how expensive it is, I might just try it for a week. There's the convenience of being right next to all the action, food, beer, and the beach. But inconvenience of bad sleep.The online streaming is the major center piece of the street now. The girls pay more attention to that then real customers. I live in BKK but my Pattaya expat buddies have told me some girls won't ST and some have denied drinks now. Soi 6 is now Soi online.
Do you remember what rate you paid (daily / weekly)?I overnighted a couple of times in the ole Sexy in The City NW bar. It was 500 bht / night, IIRC. As to noise level, the soi 6 bars closed at 2 a.
Danny Duck
03-19-21, 18:50
The online streaming is the major center piece of the street now. The girls pay more attention to that then real customers. I live in BKK but my Pattaya expat buddies have told me some girls won't ST and some have denied drinks now. Soi 6 is now Soi online.I'm no expert on Sou 6.
But it makes sense.
Regular times most girls make No money.
Stars do OK.
With Streaming they all share. Bottom girl make as much as top girl.
More Socialist like. Fair and equality Galore. Hahaha.
Explorer8939
03-20-21, 02:01
Chances are you will be asked for return of mystery deposit.You are right about that.
Last night, I went to Soi Boomerang. It's a short street with a lot of bars. There used to be a ladyboy bar on the far end, but now it's a GG bar. No live streaming on this street yet.
Explorer8939
03-20-21, 02:04
I'm no expert on Sou 6.
But it makes sense.
Regular times most girls make No money.
Stars do OK.
With Streaming they all share. Bottom girl make as much as top girl.
More Socialist like. Fair and equality Galore. Hahaha.I have seen live streaming from the camera side. The ladies get paid based on customers paying them by number or name. If a lady has 0 customers, she makes 0 baht, they don't share the money.
As far as ladies on Soi 6 turning down drinks or ST, they may merely be a result of a regular customer coming, and they don't want to be seen with another customer when he shows up.
Explorer8939
03-20-21, 02:06
Do you remember what rate you paid (daily / weekly)?The bar changed their rates frequently, based on day of the week, high season, low season, etc, I paid a max of 900 baht, but as low as 500 baht.
I rarely slept before the bars closed.
Danny Duck
03-20-21, 04:30
I have seen live streaming from the camera side. The ladies get paid based on customers paying them by number or name. If a lady has 0 customers, she makes 0 baht, they don't share the money.
As far as ladies on Soi 6 turning down drinks or ST, they may merely be a result of a regular customer coming, and they don't want to be seen with another customer when he shows up.I'm sad now. I've seen many a time the lessor quality girls just don't make any money.
Nothings changed I see.
SinfullyKorean
03-20-21, 09:20
I overnighted a couple of times in the ole Sexy in The City NW bar. It was 500 bht / night, IIRC. As to noise level, the soi 6 bars closed at 2 a.Thanks for the info! Hope it's not all doom and gloom (I. E. Soi Online) come October.
Explorer8939
03-21-21, 03:36
I'm sad now. I've seen many a time the lessor quality girls just don't make any money.
Nothings changed I see.That's the nature of the business, the top 10% of the ladies make 90% of the money.
SinfullyKorean
03-21-21, 04:18
The bar changed their rates frequently, based on day of the week, high season, low season, etc, I paid a max of 900 baht, but as low as 500 baht.
I rarely slept before the bars closed.
That's the nature of the business, the top 10% of the ladies make 90% of the money.Yea, this isn't a charity!
Just out of curiosity, does anybody know if they do short term (weekly / monthly) rentals for rooms above the bars on Soi 6?The answer is yes. But I don't remember which ones will actually rent out. Not all bars will rent out as they will mostly be occupied by the bargirls sleeping overnight. I personally will not do it as most of the rooms above the bars are shitty rooms to begin with. Most will not have attached bathrooms and some of the bathrooms are just barrel and buckets for flushing toilets or for showers. Also, do you really want to sleep hours in a bed knowing that countless guys have cum all over that bed before. Remember that the rooms and the bars are essentially a brothel. Sorry, not for me. My standards are low as Im in the cheap Charlie class, but not that low. I actually value something a little cleaner and quieter as I do value my beauty sleep. But to each their own as some likes the novelty. My POV.
Cheers.
SoberHans69
03-21-21, 09:38
The answer is yes. But I don't remember which ones will actually rent out. Not all bars will rent out as they will mostly be occupied by the bargirls sleeping overnight. I personally will not do it as most of the rooms above the bars are shitty rooms to begin with. Most will not have attached bathrooms and some of the bathrooms are just barrel and buckets for flushing toilets or for showers. Also, do you really want to sleep hours in a bed knowing that countless guys have cum all over that bed before. Remember that the rooms and the bars are essentially a brothel. Sorry, not for me. My standards are low as Im in the cheap Charlie class, but not that low. I actually value something a little cleaner and quieter as I do value my beauty sleep. But to each their own as some likes the novelty. My POV.
Cheers.I'm pretty sure the bars that do have rooms, keep the guest rooms and st rooms totally separate.
The guest rooms will definitely have their own shower.
Can't remember which bars have rooms as it's been a few years since my last trip but the rooms at the Queen Vic weren't bad when I stayed there and the Sunday carvery was nice too.
Chances are you will be asked for return of mystery deposit.Not if it was $1400.
SinfullyKorean
03-21-21, 20:29
The answer is yes. But I don't remember which ones will actually rent out. Not all bars will rent out as they will mostly be occupied by the bargirls sleeping overnight. I personally will not do it as most of the rooms above the bars are shitty rooms to begin with. Most will not have attached bathrooms and some of the bathrooms are just barrel and buckets for flushing toilets or for showers. Also, do you really want to sleep hours in a bed knowing that countless guys have cum all over that bed before. Remember that the rooms and the bars are essentially a brothel. Sorry, not for me. My standards are low as Im in the cheap Charlie class, but not that low. I actually value something a little cleaner and quieter as I do value my beauty sleep. But to each their own as some likes the novelty. My POV.
Cheers.Yea, I think the appeal for me is the novelty and having the action literally downstairs. It might be fun to try for a week or so. Since it's so cheap, no harm if I decide to go elsewhere instead if the noise / cleanliness is an issue.
Yea, I think the appeal for me is the novelty and having the action literally downstairs. It might be fun to try for a week or so. Since it's so cheap, no harm if I decide to go elsewhere instead if the noise / cleanliness is an issue.This reminds me of the Hotel Del Rey in San Jose, Costa Rica. Go downstairs, take a girl from a decent selection, and back upstairs for fun. While the Hotel Del Rey rooms weren't great, they were far nicer than any Soi 6 rooms I have seen. And I have seen my share of Soi 6 rooms.
Explorer8939
03-21-21, 23:22
Not if it was $1400.The mystery deposit was not for $1400, ie it wasn't a stimulus check.
I'm pretty sure the bars that do have rooms, keep the guest rooms and st rooms totally separate.
.Haha, not always. I have asked before about a room rental for 2-3 nites (this was about 4-5 yrs ago) and I taken to see the room. It was pretty run down from what I remembered so I declined. Went back about 2 days later to same bar and took a girl ST, she took me upstairs and banged her and it was in the same room I was offered earlier.
Explorer8939
03-25-21, 14:05
Club Fate is opening, just off Soi Boomerang, at the site of the old Club Baku. It's the same ownership as Maggie Mays and the Cave.
Hi guys,
Just wanted to ask from quarantine if there is any freelancer action on the street and where is the best bet for 1 K ST or even 1500 LT. Maybe in the beer bars also some girls will do that? Have been planning to start with a couple of wild days where quantity is not less of a factor than quality. Maybe the same. Been really starving staying away from LOS.
Banana Boi
03-27-21, 05:57
Yea, I think the appeal for me is the novelty and having the action literally downstairs. It might be fun to try for a week or so. Since it's so cheap, no harm if I decide to go elsewhere instead if the noise / cleanliness is an issue.There are hotels right on Walking Street and LK Metro with bars literally downstairs too. Soi 6 is pretty quiet after 2 am.
SinfullyKorean
03-27-21, 08:41
There are hotels right on Walking Street and LK Metro with bars literally downstairs too. Soi 6 is pretty quiet after 2 am.I didn't like Walking Street due to the absurd LT prices there. It ranged from 8 k-12 k plus BF.
In most of my visits I book a hotel on WS. One of my favourite club in just front of it and many more clubs and bars around its matter of few minutes picking a gal and reaching back to my room. Yes it's too noisy in the nights but who goes there to sleep in the nights. My night begins at 6 am in the morning.
There are hotels right on Walking Street and LK Metro with bars literally downstairs too. Soi 6 is pretty quiet after 2 am.
who goes there to sleep in the nights. My night begins at 6 am in the morning.A lot of people used to go in Thailand because they love the country.
A lot of them end up in Pattaya because that city offers a good mix of what Thailand has to offer.
These people like to sleep at night, do whatever they like to do in the day and in the same time enjoy all the girls that are available there.
HellvelMan
03-27-21, 19:56
Hope I will get correct direction from legends here.
Planning for short visit to Thailand. I have plenty of questions in my mind.
1. my plan to stay for 3 days in Thailand its purely for having sex with girls. As it is short time which place will fulfill my desire Bangkok or Pattaya.
2. Is there any in house providers where we can select the girl from line up and can spend ST or LT for reasonable price.
3. I have seen in youtube about massage shop girls line up they are really cute and young are they do FS.
4. Like thermae is there any other place to find bulk options.
5. Bars famous in Thailand is there any good KTV options which provide FS.
6. Came across Pinup in FB girls are really awesome. Will they agree for FS is there any condition like need to buy lady drinks for particular price.
Thanks in advance.
Danny Duck
03-27-21, 20:32
A lot of people used to go in Thailand because they love the country.
A lot of them end up in Pattaya because that city offers a good mix of what Thailand has to offer.
These people like to sleep at night, do whatever they like to do in the day and in the same time enjoy all the girls that are available there.I always thought Pattaya was cheap Bargirls.
After 5 years I still think Pattaya is cheap Bargirls.
Pre Covid businesses were outgoing in Soi 12.10, 6,11,etc.
Nothing going on there, as far as I saw.
Banana Boi
03-28-21, 02:55
I didn't like Walking Street due to the absurd LT prices there. It ranged from 8 k-12 k plus BF.The only time you will ever be quoted 8-12 k for LT is when a girl is making it clear she finds you disgusting and she doesn't want to go with you. She'll accept your lady drinks all night long but there is no chance in hell she will sleep with you.
My night begins at 6 am in the morning.
Maybe I can learn something here. Where are you going to party in Pattaya starting at 6 am? Even the Thai bars / discos and shisha bars are slowing or shutting down at 6 am.
I have found Soy 6 to be pretty much like it was. Less girls overall but still more than enough, I'd say 60% the numbers of old. Less lookers maybe but very few punters, so overall a slightly better deal than pre-covid when 40% of the girls used to turn their noses up at me (fewer do so now, though it is still amazing some do in spite of their not getting any custom).
The expectation that under Covid gogo girls would be had at a discount didn't pan out. Nothing new there, state of affairs in fact maybe even worse than before. Quoted rate 3000-4000 for ST plus 600 to 1000 BF. Mamasans hardly visible, as though girls offering sex were no longer a main component of the business model. Pushing drinks is apparently how those gogos intend to stay afloat. Few customers each time I was there, never did I witness a single customer taking a girl out. Paid a drink to a couple of girls, they didn't seem the least interested in being taken out. One gave me her line ID but never replied to my messages. Did those girls come here on a no-sex contracts? Are they "keeping" themselves for "Asians" ahead of the latter's return?
I have found the gogos in Pattaya now to be less interesting than Nana Plaza's gogos pre-covid (outside Xmas and New Year). I wouldn't mind paying even 3000 from time to time to take out a gogo girl. What I can't stand is being scammed into paying drinks for nothing. Never mind the drink is "only" 200. Can't stand it. Gogos will not see me often in Pattaya though I'll try Bangkok's out when I get there.
One upside of Pattaya now are the heavily discounted accommodation prices (-30 to -50%).
Mr Enternational
03-28-21, 03:18
The only time you will ever be quoted 8-12 k for LT is when a girl is making it clear she finds you disgusting and she doesn't want to go with you. I thought that was the normal price in What's Up and that other gogo by the same owner. Electric or something?
MutantChicken
03-28-21, 03:25
The only time you will ever be quoted 8-12 k for LT is when a girl is making it clear she finds you disgusting and she doesn't want to go with you. She'll accept your lady drinks all night long but there is no chance in hell she will sleep with you.
Less lookers maybe but very few punters, so overall a slightly better deal than pre-covid when 40% of the girls used to turn their noses up at me (fewer do so now, though it is still amazing some do in spite of their not getting any custom).
The expectation that under Covid gogo girls would be had at a discount didn't pan out. Nothing new there, state of affairs in fact maybe even worse than before. Quoted rate 3000-4000 for ST plus 600 to 1000 BF. Mamasans hardly visible, as though girls offering sex were no longer a main component of the business model. Pushing drinks is apparently how those gogos intend to stay afloat. Few customers each time I was there, never did I witness a single customer taking a girl out. Paid a drink to a couple of girls, they didn't seem the least interested in being taken out. One gave me her line ID but never replied to my messages. Did those girls come here on a no-sex contracts? Are they "keeping" themselves for "Asians" ahead of the latter's return?
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One upside of Pattaya now are the heavily discounted accommodation prices (-30 to -50%).Firstly ID like to thank you for writing a report, as that provides additional intel. I however would like to comment on something which you might find insulting but isn't my intention. You mentioned that precovid 40% of girls on soi 6 would turn up their noses to you. In the 20 yrs I have been going to soi 6, I have never had 1 girl turn up their nose at me, the fact that the figure is 40% and not less 1% really indicates where in the spectrum of desirability and attractiveness you fall in a woman's eyes.
This would put a question mark, as applicable to the market of men 18-40 who are fitter and more physically appealing, weather the quoted price would be 3000-4000 to these type of men.
To me this would fall more into BB comment where if a girl finds you undesirable then and only then she would quote you 8-12 k LT.
Banana Boi
03-28-21, 03:47
I thought that was the normal price in What's Up and that other gogo by the same owner. Electric or something?What's Up is the same pricing as the other gogo bars. Imagine by What's Up is too AFAIK. I have never BF anyone from Imagine. Maybe Axiata can confirm. The only difference is the drinks are more expensive. Electric Blue? That would be normal gogo girl pricing as well. I don't follow who owns what.
That meant time to sleep starts at 6 am. And all night am in clubs or bars.
The only time you will ever be quoted 8-12 k for LT is when a girl is making it clear she finds you disgusting and she doesn't want to go with you. She'll accept your lady drinks all night long but there is no chance in hell she will sleep with you..
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