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I was referring about walking street. I book a hotel room there always in the centre of things and some one commented it's too noisy in the nights.
A lot of people used to go in Thailand because they love the country.
A lot of them end up in Pattaya because that city offers a good mix of what Thailand has to offer.
These people like to sleep at night, do whatever they like to do in the day and in the same time enjoy all the girls that are available there.
Pimpampoumpipo
03-28-21, 17:13
I have found Soy 6 .... discounted accommodation prices (-30 to -50%).Thank you for this precious testimony.
...the fact that the figure is 40% and not less 1% really indicates where in the spectrum of desirability and attractiveness you fall in a woman's eyes...Trying to be diplomatic, or PC, about it? How about giving him some advice on how to change that. Although I think 40% is a bit too high.
MutantChicken
03-28-21, 18:05
Trying to be diplomatic, or PC, about it? How about giving him some advice on how to change that. Although I think 40% is a bit too high.Soi 6 girls are generally be grade or even see grade girls and if you are rejected by 1/2 these women, what type of advice can be given. Especially when I don't know him, and if I did then it will end up being the usual of 'don't be so fat', 'don't be "old", and given that I have read some of his posts, I would suggest that his problem would probably lie in his personality flaws.
SinfullyKorean
03-28-21, 18:52
The only time you will ever be quoted 8-12 k for LT is when a girl is making it clear she finds you disgusting and she doesn't want to go with you. She'll accept your lady drinks all night long but there is no chance in hell she will sleep with you.
Maybe I can learn something here. Where are you going to party in Pattaya starting at 6 am? Even the Thai bars / discos and shisha bars are slowing or shutting down at 6 am.Might be because I'm korean and they're quoting me the Korean / Japanese rates. =(.
Might be because I'm korean and they're quoting me the Korean / Japanese rates..The maximum I paid only 1 time was 5000 ! It's only because I wanted to fuck a very famous girl who is very active on social media, on facebook! She knows she's very sexy, and each time it's very difficult to meet her! She works in Skyfall gogo in WS and I was lucky to meet her there but she was busy with another Chinese man. She just came to me for a drink that night, and told me she was sorry because sher had to go for LT with a Chinese man who paid her 8000 for LT. And she gave me her Line that the next day she could come my hotel for ST before she go work there which was perfect for me like that I didn't have to pay the 2000 BF.
So the next day I called her on Line and she answered me when she wake up she was OK come my hotel around 4/5 pm. She told me she was free only for ST because she had to go work in the gogo again after. She asked me 4000 bahts! I really wanted fuck her so I didn't even try to negotiate! And I didn't have to pay BF which was fine. And when she arrived my room, she asked me to put a condom but I told her I didn't have any condom! So she directly told me she was OK fuck with me bareback but when wanted 5000 ! Of course I said yes, I gave her directly her 5000 and we got 2 fucking great sex hours! And I came twice inside her pussy. And again after in shower! I was happy and she was OK for everything!
Explorer8939
03-28-21, 20:55
Hope I will get correct direction from legends here.
Planning for short visit to Thailand. I have plenty of questions in my mind.
1. my plan to stay for 3 days in Thailand its purely for having sex with girls. As it is short time which place will fulfill my desire Bangkok or Pattaya.
2. Is there any in house providers where we can select the girl from line up and can spend ST or LT for reasonable price.
3. I have seen in youtube about massage shop girls line up they are really cute and young are they do FS.
4. Like thermae is there any other place to find bulk options.
5. Bars famous in Thailand is there any good KTV options which provide FS.
6. Came across Pinup in FB girls are really awesome. Will they agree for FS is there any condition like need to buy lady drinks for particular price.
Thanks in advance.Thailand requires foreigners to quarantine in a hotel for 10 days+ before entering the country.
Hope I will get correct direction from legends here.
Planning for short visit to Thailand. I have plenty of questions in my mind.
1. my plan to stay for 3 days in Thailand its purely for having sex with girls. As it is short time which place will fulfill my desire Bangkok or Pattaya.
2. Is there any in house providers where we can select the girl from line up and can spend ST or LT for reasonable price.
3. I have seen in youtube about massage shop girls line up they are really cute and young are they do FS.
4. Like thermae is there any other place to find bulk options.
5. Bars famous in Thailand is there any good KTV options which provide FS.
6. Came across Pinup in FB girls are really awesome. Will they agree for FS is there any condition like need to buy lady drinks for particular price.
Thanks in advance.1. Bangkok is a big city where as Pattaya is small. Likewise Bangkok has beautiful girls but can be expensive. Pattaya on the other hand cheaper. It will be hard to say which city will fulfill your desire it is hard to say. Do some research here.
2. There maybe *****houses but it is strictly local. You go to the bar and select or else select street girls.
3. I had very good experiences in massage parlors. I do not like sex in massage places. I go for real massages. I have met some really pretty young massage girls and get their numbers. Called them later and they have come to my room and have sex. Some of them I have taken for few days. They get out of the massage shop saying they are going home for a few days but instead we had lots of fun going to some islands. One pretty Chiangmai Mai girl was a virgin. We had great few days in Phuket. So it is possible to have fun with massage girls. Other members here have mentioned having sex right there which I am not into.
4. Not sure.
5. There are plenty of KTV in Bangkok. Apart from KTV in China never been anywhere else. Again read reports.
6. Money buys happiness. In our case it buys good looking girls. Service quality is a toss up.
Banana Boi
03-29-21, 02:36
Soi 6 girls are generally be grade or even see grade girls and if you are rejected by 1/2 these women, what type of advice can be given. Even back in 2015 you'd be hard pressed to find 10 girls on Soi 6 that you would buy a lady drink for. At least back then it was a HJ and guaranteed DFK for a lady drink. That mofo from UK ruined it for all of us. Soi 6 instantly turned into a lame soi where you weren't getting any action for your lady drink unless it was one of the bars where you got to sit inside out of public view. Pre-COVID you'd be lucky to find 1 or 3 girls on Soi 6 to buy a lady drink for. What Soi 6 offered was a ton of girls for cheap. Now it's just cheapish.
Banana Boi
03-29-21, 02:48
The expectation that under Covid gogo girls would be had at a discount didn't pan out. Nothing new there, state of affairs in fact maybe even worse than before. Quoted rate 3000-4000 for ST plus 600 to 1000 BF. Mamasans hardly visible, as though girls offering sex were no longer a main component of the business model. Pushing drinks is apparently how those gogos intend to stay afloat. Few customers each time I was there, never did I witness a single customer taking a girl out. Paid a drink to a couple of girls, they didn't seem the least interested in being taken out. One gave me her line ID but never replied to my messages. Did those girls come here on a no-sex contracts? Are they "keeping" themselves for "Asians" ahead of the latter's return?
I have found the gogos in Pattaya now to be less interesting than Nana Plaza's gogos pre-covid (outside Xmas and New Year). I wouldn't mind paying even 3000 from time to time to take out a gogo girl. What I can't stand is being scammed into paying drinks for nothing. Never mind the drink is "only" 200. Can't stand it. Gogos will not see me often in Pattaya though I'll try Bangkok's out when I get there.Gogo girls are a totally different animal than Soi 6 girls. Above average gogo girls look down on Soi 6 girls. Ask a Soi 6 girl why she's doesn't work on WS. Most will tell you they aren't pretty enough. It's not 100% true as there are a lot of ugly gogo girls too but girls see themselves as unable to compete with the top girls.
Soi 6 is a wham bam thank you maam experience. You can walk up to any girl, buy her a drink, and within 5 minutes you can be upstairs with her. There is rarely a rejection. Top gogo girls don't work like that. As they have the choice of whichever guy they want to go with that night or are not hurting for cash they want to know that if they decide to go with you they will have a good time. You need to show them you have charm and humor and can make them feel comfortable. I've been to gogo bars with guys who specialize with Soi 6, bar beers, and iBar who just can't cut it with girls in gogo bars. Not every guy can. Of course some gogo bars like Windmill and similar skanky bars are more like Soi 6. Show them some money and they will stick a beer bottle up their ass.
...Windmill and similar skanky bars are more like Soi 6. Show them some money and they will stick a beer bottle up their ass.Yeah; skanky is a good word. LOL. Personally, I don't find Windmill or Soi 6 to be appealing. But everyone has their own preferences and tastes, and I really can't judge anyone that frequents those joints.
As it's been mentioned by others before in the Thailand forum and from my own personal experience with interacting with these Thai girls in their personal space and private settings, the reality is that a majority of these girls do have someone. It's amazing how they're (both the Thai girl and guy) able to compartmentalize their relationships and allow this open-type of relationship to occur. But it happens. And the bar / gogo work is only viewed as a job or work that is separate from their own personal relationships (outside of work).
If you've never looked through these girls' social media accounts (I. E. FB), then you might be surprised at what you see and then compare it to how GFE she might appear to you in the bars.
Obviously, this doesn't hold true for all these girls. But I would probably think a majority of these girls have someone. Even one gogo girl confirmed to me that "most" girls have this sort of open relationship. This conversation only occurred because she wanted to know my thoughts on if I'd be able to allow her to continue to work and establish a fixed relationship with her. Everyone is different.
I guess my point of all this is to to say that in a way- yes; they are keeping themselves for Asians; particular the Thai guys.
With that knowledge in the background (and I can only speak to gogos like Pin-Up in Pattaya or Rainbow4 in BKK), then these girls do have a way to communicate their desires to want to go with you or not through their price. During these Covid times, the price really shouldn't be more than 3 k (even for LT).
But again, I think it's really up to the girls; and also relative to their own personal desperation point for money. But they always (for most of them) have someone to go home to (care for them) after work. Or worst case scenario, some other "Asian" sponsoring them locally or from abroad.
Banana Boi
03-29-21, 07:15
I just assume ALL girls have a boyfriend, girlfriend, or Tomboy. Whether they do or don't doesn't matter to me. Why should it? What matters is if they're hot / cute, fun to be with, and good in bed.
I've met guys who come to Thailand LOOKING for a GF. DON'T! If you live here fine but please never come to LOS as a 3 week tourist hoping to find love.
Yeah; skanky is a good word. LOL. Personally, I don't find Windmill or Soi 6 to be appealing. But everyone has their own preferences and tastes, and I really can't judge anyone that frequents those joints.
Yup, absolutely correct. Some (like myself) happen to like the "sleazy" atmosphere.
I the ability to point and shoot at Soi 6. No need with hassle of picking the girl, then taking time / money to travel back to your hotel (or finding a ST hotel nearby). Just take the girl upstairs and get your deed done. Leave her and if unhappy, walk to bar next door and start again until finally satisfied. Just my take on this.
Cheers.
Mr Enternational
03-29-21, 08:26
As it's been mentioned by others before in the Thailand forum and from my own personal experience with interacting with these Thai girls in their personal space and private settings, the reality is that a majority of these girls do have someone.My experience is just the opposite. And if you ask they will tell you the truth. Same as when FL met his secret chick on Soi 6. She told him straight up that she had a boyfriend in Australia at the time.
It's amazing how they're (both the Thai girl and guy) able to compartmentalize their relationships and allow this open-type of relationship to occur. But it happens. And the bar / gogo work is only viewed as a job or work that is separate from their own personal relationships (outside of work).Is this a surprise? My life is the same way and I am American, not Thai. It seems most mongers are this way anyway, not wanting their friends and family to know about their mongering. Even closed relationships are like this when one of the people have someone on the side. I think compartmentalization is more of a male trait than a female one though.
If you've never looked through these girls' social media accounts (I. E. FB), then you might be surprised at what you see and then compare it to how GFE she might appear to you in the bars.All I tend to see is food on these chicks' social media. But I guess if the chick is a hooker in a bar then you will also see bar stuff, same as chicks on a farm show farm stuff. Begs the question why would you care about a hooker's social media. Even friends and family that I add, I don't look through their shit. It is more of a way of having an avenue to contact them. I guess I am still living in the original purpose of facebook from when I was in grad school.
But I would probably think a majority of these girls have someone. Even one gogo girl confirmed to me that "most" girls have this sort of open relationship. This conversation only occurred because she wanted to know my thoughts on if I'd be able to allow her to continue to work and establish a fixed relationship with her.Why would you care? Who goes around getting into fixed relationships with prostitutes?
Mr Enternational
03-29-21, 08:36
I've met guys who come to Thailand LOOKING for a GF. DON'T! If you live here fine but please never come to LOS as a 3 week tourist hoping to find love.Perfectly fine to come to Thailand to find love as a tourist. I did it and I am friends with some exes til this day. The problem is when people come and try to make girlfriends out of hookers in bars. The easiest test in the world for this is are you giving or sending her money? I have never had to give or send money to a real girlfriend in Thailand or anywhere else on this planet, no matter how poor they may have been.
Banana Boi
03-29-21, 08:47
Perfectly fine to come to Thailand to find love as a tourist. I did it and I am friends with some exes til this day. The problem is when people come and try to make girlfriends out of hookers in bars. The easiest test in the world for this is are you giving or sending her money? I'm saying the same thing as you just used different wording. When I said find love I meant guys meeting a Thai bar girl and hoping for her to be exclusive even after he leaves town. The money test is indeed the ultimate test. See how long a Thai girl stays with you after you stop barfining her, buying her food, sending her money, etc.
My experience is just the opposite. And if you ask they will tell you the truth. Same as when FL met his secret chick on Soi 6. She told him straight up that she had a boyfriend in Australia at the time.My position is "a majority of these (bar) girls do have someone". Your statement of "she told him straight up that she had a boyfriend" seems to support my theory. Not sure how your experience is the opposite in your example.
Is this a surprise?For some, yes. For some, no. For some, it doesn't matter.
Begs the question why would you care about a hooker's social media... I guess I am still living in the original purpose of facebook from when I was in grad school.I don't. I'm assuming that you think I do by this statement. You are incorrect in your assumption. I'm sorry to hear that grad school didn't help you with improved critical reading skills.
Why would you care?Personally, this knowledge of girls having someone doesn't affect me. I still get quoted a fair price with P4 P girls. But if your understanding of my post leads you to interpret that I would care, then I apologize for your lack of understanding and maybe recommend that you re-read the post again several times to get a better understanding. I find it helpful to use some level of critical reading of someone's post before making any guesses or assumptions. It can be difficult for some. Good luck to you.
Mr Enternational
03-29-21, 10:47
I'm assuming that you think I do by this statement. You are incorrect in your assumption. I'm sorry to hear that grad school didn't help you with improved critical reading skills.
Personally, this knowledge of girls having someone doesn't affect me. I still get quoted a fair price with P4 P girls. But if your understanding of my post leads you to interpret that I would care, then I apologize for your lack of understanding Sorry. When I used you I meant it in second person plural as speaking to an audience, not second person singular as speaking to you in particular. That is one of the fucked up things about English. Maybe it should be you and yous to help people distinguish. Likewise I apologize for your lack of understanding.
Danny Duck
03-29-21, 19:33
I just assume ALL girls have a boyfriend, girlfriend, or Tomboy. Whether they do or don't doesn't matter to me. Why should it? What matters is if they're hot / cute, fun to be with, and good in bed.
I've met guys who come to Thailand LOOKING for a GF. DON'T! If you live here fine but please never come to LOS as a 3 week tourist hoping to find love.Are you Sure?
There's a Flower s guy on you tube giving advice on doing business in Pattaya.
His claim to Fame. Bought a loser Bar in Pattaya.
The world has gone insane.
Banana Boi
03-30-21, 04:17
There's a Flower s guy on you tube giving advice on doing business in Pattaya.
His claim to Fame. Bought a loser Bar in Pattaya.
The world has gone insane.Why would you quote me on this? Has ZERO relevance to what I posted.
I'm hoping to go back to Phuket this summer or early fall. But it depends on work and what rules apply then.
Why would you quote me on this? Has ZERO relevance to what I posted.
SinfullyKorean
03-30-21, 05:53
The maximum I paid only 1 time was 5000 ! It's only because I wanted to fuck a very famous girl who is very active on social media, on facebook! She knows she's very sexy, and each time it's very difficult to meet her! She works in Skyfall gogo in WS and I was lucky to meet her there but she was busy with another Chinese man. She just came to me for a drink that night, and told me she was sorry because sher had to go for LT with a Chinese man who paid her 8000 for LT. And she gave me her Line that the next day she could come my hotel for ST before she go work there which was perfect for me like that I didn't have to pay the 2000 BF.
So the next day I called her on Line and she answered me when she wake up she was OK come my hotel around 4/5 pm. She told me she was free only for ST because she had to go work in the gogo again after. She asked me 4000 bahts! I really wanted fuck her so I didn't even try to negotiate! And I didn't have to pay BF which was fine. And when she arrived my room, she asked me to put a condom but I told her I didn't have any condom! So she directly told me she was OK fuck with me bareback but when wanted 5000 ! Of course I said yes, I gave her directly her 5000 and we got 2 fucking great sex hours! And I came twice inside her pussy. And again after in shower! I was happy and she was OK for everything!That's amazing, and I'm happy for you. But sounds like the exception than the rule.
HorseTrader
03-30-21, 05:56
I'm hoping to go back to Phuket this summer or early fall. But it depends on work and what rules apply then.Many of us will do the same. The hard part of the sandbox concept is that tourist vaccinations must be less than 90 days old. Seems overly restrictive since the vaccines are expected to last far longer than 90 days.
SinfullyKorean
03-30-21, 05:59
I'm hoping to go back to Phuket this summer or early fall. But it depends on work and what rules apply then.If you can get vaccinated by July, Phuket's not requiring quarantine (after 70% of their population can get vaccinated) for vaccinated tourists. Otherwise, your 3 day stay will not be an enjoyable one.
SinfullyKorean
03-30-21, 06:01
Many of us will do the same. The hard part of the sandbox concept is that tourist vaccinations must be less than 90 days old. Seems overly restrictive since the vaccines are expected to last far longer than 90 days.Agreed. I understand their desire to be safe. I think they're just waiting on CDC guidelines. And until then, their motto seems to be: "Better safe than sorry. ".
Most likely, that 90 day restriction will be modified. Thailand's quarantine restriction seems to change quite often, for the better.
Most likely, that 90 day restriction will be modified. Thailand's quarantine restriction seems to change quite often, for the better.I expect so, it's not been too long since the first vaccines became widely available and there is insufficient data on the longevity of vaccine protection. Once there's more data then the 90 restriction will increase.
Most likely, that 90 day restriction will be modified. Thailand's quarantine restriction seems to change quite often, for the better.Nothing changes. What you call changes are the unsupported proposals floated by some media (chiefly by "The Thaiger"). When I google news about Thailand these days I append "-Thaiger" to my search in order to avoid getting distracted by those assholes' BS.
Ass Addict
03-30-21, 15:43
Why would you quote me on this? Has ZERO relevance to what I posted.I don't think most of us would be able to enter the Kingdom of Thailand before the end of the year.
Even 2022 might be a hard task for most.
That's amazing, and I'm happy for you. But sounds like the exception than the rule.No they all accept bareback if you pay.
Banana Boi
03-30-21, 22:29
I don't think most of us would be able to enter the Kingdom of Thailand before the end of the year.
Even 2022 might be a hard task for most.Delicious cheap ramen noodles available in a cart near Soi Batman. 40 baht.
Banana Boi
03-30-21, 22:31
I'm hoping to go back to Phuket this summer or early fall. But it depends on work and what rules apply then.Uber has been unavailable for some time.
I use Food Panda.
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I've met guys who come to Thailand LOOKING for a GF. DON'T! If you live here fine but please never come to LOS as a 3 week tourist hoping to find love.Talking about Thai bargirls here, I would say for the majority of them, perhaps even the vast majority of them, the pull for them to get shit-faced drunk and fuck different men every day and night is much stronger than the idea of being supported by and sexually exclusive to any one nice White Knight guy hoping for a girlfriend.
Oh, they will talk a good game about hating their chosen career and praying to be saved from having to endure it any longer. But I have offered and even tried to help at least 3 girls with financial support in this way over the past few years, including during these supposed dire economic conditions (guaranteed 8,000 - 10,000 baht per week) and not one of them lasted more than a single week before cycling back to "go to bar with my friends."
Yep, even just marginally above average looking bargirls over the age of 30, not even talking about 21 year old "party girls."
They love the P4P way of making money and most definitely do not want to be anyone's financially supported "girlfriend" no matter how much they make a case for wanting to be yours. Some exceptions, I assume. But neither my long term expat friends nor I have ever experienced or observed one.
HorseTrader
03-31-21, 05:18
Talking about Thai bargirls here, I would say for the majority of them, perhaps even the vast majority of them, the pull for them to get shit-faced drunk and fuck different men every day and night is much stronger than the idea of being supported by and sexually exclusive to any one nice White Knight guy hoping for a girlfriend.What you describe sounds like behavior of alcoholics more than sex addicts. Plus a good dose of missing their friends. I know my lifestyle would be very boring to an under 35 Thai bar girl.
Banana Boi
03-31-21, 05:24
No they all accept bareback if you pay.Now it's 100%?
HorseTrader
03-31-21, 05:37
Now it's 100%?Perhaps you didn't properly interpret his prior posts. When he has sex, it is always bareback. But, he has only fucked 90% of the bar girls on Soi 6, Soi 7, and LK Metro.
Perhaps I'm the one that didn't interpret correctly.
What you describe sounds like behavior of alcoholics more than sex addicts. Plus a good dose of missing their friends. I know my lifestyle would be very boring to an under 35 Thai bar girl.Yes, I think the booze and goofing off with friends is a major factor in why a P4P girl today goes through the hassle of traveling to and from, showing up and suiting up for hours of shuffling around on a stage or exposed to the elements in a beer bar to score customers rather than working it from the solitary, relative comfort of their room on the internet.
MrChewsomtwat
03-31-21, 07:11
Talking about Thai bargirls here, I would say for the majority of them, perhaps even the vast majority of them, the pull for them to get shit-faced drunk and fuck different men every day and night is much stronger than the idea of being supported by and sexually exclusive to any one nice White Knight guy hoping for a girlfriend.
Oh, they will talk a good game about hating their chosen career and praying to be saved from having to endure it any longer. But I have offered and even tried to help at least 3 girls with financial support in this way over the past few years, including during these supposed dire economic conditions (guaranteed 8,000 - 10,000 baht per week) and not one of them lasted more than a single week before cycling back to "go to bar with my friends."
Yep, even just marginally above average looking bargirls over the age of 30, not even talking about 21 year old "party girls."
They love the P4P way of making money and most definitely do not want to be anyone's financially supported "girlfriend" no matter how much they make a case for wanting to be yours. Some exceptions, I assume. But neither my long term expat friends nor I have ever experienced or observed one.The lifestyle of many sexual partners is addictive for everyone involved in the scene.
MutantChicken
03-31-21, 07:30
Yes, I think the booze and goofing off with friends is a major factor in why a P4P girl today goes through the hassle of traveling to and from, showing up and suiting up for hours of shuffling around on a stage or exposed to the elements in a beer bar to score customers rather than working it from the solitary, relative comfort of their room on the internet.What's stopping from "hanging out with friends and goofing off" near the relative comfort of their rooms on the internet, last time I looked there was mobile internet.
Perhaps you didn't properly interpret his prior posts. When he has sex, it is always bareback. But, he has only fucked 90% of the bar girls on Soi 6, Soi 7, and LK Metro.
Perhaps I'm the one that didn't interpret correctly.Seriously, if you're a regular customer of Thai girls in Pattaya, you know almost all girls accept bareback! On my last trip in Pattaya, all the girls accepted BBFS. Just 2 of them wanted a tip to do bareback.
And only 1 in Bangkok wanted to put a condom!
It's very common nowadays! Even my friends who go to Pattaya regularly practice BBFS.
You look surprised!
For some reason Soi 6 has been disappointing this week. Few girls and most of them clustered in front of some camera inside.
On a positive note I got the impression beer bars tended to have a lesser percentage of bottom-of-the-barrel girl than they had pre-covid.
I don't think most of us would be able to enter the Kingdom of Thailand before the end of the year.
Even 2022 might be a hard task for most.I'm eagerly looking forward to my 2024 visit.
SinfullyKorean
03-31-21, 20:38
Nothing changes. What you call changes are the unsupported proposals floated by some media (chiefly by "The Thaiger"). When I google news about Thailand these days I append "-Thaiger" to my search in order to avoid getting distracted by those assholes' BS.The updated quarantine restriction (no quarantine in sandbox regions) was reported on foxnews:
https://www.foxnews.com/travel/vaccinated-tourists-skip-quarantine-phuket
So true in my opinion. Now of course, our views are moulded by those girls we know in the P4 P industry. Mine is based on close relationships with 4-5 girls over several years. They absolutely love the "party" and can not imagine a life without their friends and Thai food. I have offered them quite good deals, a lifestyle were the would be financially covered, either living in Thailand or farangland. But they declined. I treat them well. They tell me they love me. We have great time togehter. But after a while the pull from their party life and friends just suck them back. That is why hardened bargirls do not make good life partners in most cases. Let them carry on and enjoy them within the 3-day rule. It's just how it is in Thailand.
Talking about Thai bargirls here, I would say for the majority of them, perhaps even the vast majority of them, the pull for them to get shit-faced drunk and fuck different men every day and night is much stronger than the idea of being supported by and sexually exclusive to any one nice White Knight guy hoping for a girlfriend.
Oh, they will talk a good game about hating their chosen career and praying to be saved from having to endure it any longer. But I have offered and even tried to help at least 3 girls with financial support in this way over the past few years, including during these supposed dire economic conditions (guaranteed 8,000 - 10,000 baht per week) and not one of them lasted more than a single week before cycling back to "go to bar with my friends."
Yep, even just marginally above average looking bargirls over the age of 30, not even talking about 21 year old "party girls."
They love the P4P way of making money and most definitely do not want to be anyone's financially supported "girlfriend" no matter how much they make a case for wanting to be yours. Some exceptions, I assume. But neither my long term expat friends nor I have ever experienced or observed one.
Danny Duck
03-31-21, 23:41
The lifestyle of many sexual partners is addictive for everyone involved in the scene.From my investigations most Girls report getting naked with old fat smelly strangers is the Worst part of their job.
They do understand it's part of the GIG. LOL.
Mr Enternational
04-01-21, 00:10
They absolutely love the "party" and can not imagine a life without their friends and Thai food. I have offered them quite good deals, a lifestyle were the would be financially covered, either living in Thailand or farangland. But they declined. Pretty soon they will be pushing a cart containing all the Thai food they can stand.
From my investigations most Girls report getting naked with old fat smelly strangers is the Worst part of their job.
They do understand it's part of the GIG. LOL.It isn't surprising that the part where they actually have to do something for the money that requires some effort is considered by them to be the "worst" part of their day.
Probably the same with Thai restaurant servers and mall shop clerks, but for a lot less money. 😁
Crazy4Thai
04-01-21, 12:43
Pretty soon they will be pushing a cart containing all the Thai food they can stand.I wish there was a like button.
It happens all too fast. One minute I was "Hansum Man" and the next I was "Papaa". WTF.
Danny Duck
04-01-21, 18:57
If you all missing Thailand. May I recommend a Korea guy's you tube channel.
He actually interacts with Pretty Thai girls.
He just did a livestream from somewhere in Thailand. Look like Gentlemen Club or Soapy Massage Parlor.
Girl companion was attractive and could read and speak English.
Per his two vid I perused he isn't interested in Soi 6 quality bargirls. LOL.
Can you link something? Thanks.
If you all missing Thailand. May I recommend a Korea guy's you tube channel.
He actually interacts with Pretty Thai girls.
He just did a livestream from somewhere in Thailand. Look like Gentlemen Club or Soapy Massage Parlor.
Girl companion was attractive and could read and speak English.
Per his two vid I perused he isn't interested in Soi 6 quality bargirls. LOL.
Seems same tend to apply to freelancers. Have also tested with few of those I liked, with similar results. Works for few days, few weeks with some, but at the end the combination of friends, party, opportunity to try different dick as they wish, and money just pulls them back like a magnet. Easy to get a girl out of a bar / club, but not the bar / club out of girl holds.
Funnily enough lately had a case with a non-working girl with similar results. Even if I felt we were quite good together, dad to give up as she had to go party and eat with friends so that not really spend time with me much at all. Prime example of a case where going with a non-working 'normal' girl ended up spending more per pop than with a working one so had to stop as did not make business sense. She was kind of a good girl, and I made it clear to her if she stayed with me living normal life, she would not need to worry about money, and yet she could not help. Go figure.
Maybe just had bad luck, and wondering how the many guys who actually have pulled a girl out to 'normal life' worked it out.
So true in my opinion. Now of course, our views are moulded by those girls we know in the P4 P industry. Mine is based on close relationships with 4-5 girls over several years. They absolutely love the "party" and can not imagine a life without their friends and Thai food. I have offered them quite good deals, a lifestyle were the would be financially covered, either living in Thailand or farangland. But they declined. I treat them well. They tell me they love me. We have great time togehter. But after a while the pull from their party life and friends just suck them back. That is why hardened bargirls do not make good life partners in most cases. Let them carry on and enjoy them within the 3-day rule. It's just how it is in Thailand.
Franciscass
04-02-21, 16:05
It's amusing reading recent posts on how girls behave when offered money by generous benefactors to devote themselves to him. What a bunch of losers they are. Seems the ungrateful hoes prefer different dick every night and getting wasted with their friends. Maybe true perhaps so or maybe they just get shit bored with the old geezer and all the money in the world isn't worth having to blow him every night.
Mr Enternational
04-02-21, 16:55
I made it clear to her if she stayed with me living normal life, she would not need to worry about money, and yet she could not help. Go figure.
Maybe just had bad luck, and wondering how the many guys who actually have pulled a girl out to 'normal life' worked it out.Freedom. I don't know why some guys think that money can buy them love or loyalty or a person. Money is not everyhting and you can only use it to rent some pussy. Put yourself in their shoes.
As a matter of fact, when I was in the Navy I heard a story from a guy that had spent time in Japan. They used to go to the discos and meet chicks there. This one guy met a chick whose father was so rich that her and her brother had the same model Ferrari, but different colors. The girl wanted to marry the sailor but the father said he could do it only on condition that he could not go back to the States. The guy would be taken care of for the rest of his life though. He did not take the deal. Being able to go back home and do other shit he wanted, was worth more than the money dangling in front of his face. Would you have taken the deal? I know I sure as hell would not.
This is why you can use your money to get a chick, but you can't use it to keep her. No need to lead with money when you want to be serious about a chick. As we used to say in Brazil, if you want to know how someone really feels about you then show up without money. The shit is simple. You don't show up offering them material shit. You show up offering them yourself.
Nobody is suprised when some athlete or singer's wife or girlfriend that you know he would not gotten if he was not who he was leaves him. It is obvious she was there for the money, but she could only keep up that charade for so long before things beside money became more important.
Yeah is clear that people are reluctant giving up their freedom. I wouldn't beyond what I feel like giving.
However the girls have with serious face told she want to stay and be BF-GF, and surely they should know what it means. I never mentioned about anything like your Jap case, actually did not set any limits as wanted to see how they behave (and is against my life principles as well, people should be let be free to do what they want). So it kind of appears that they somewhere inside has a pocket that thinks they would like to live in GF-BF setting, yet they can't as the external factors pull them back.
Maybe it is all a show, without actual serious intent, to just live in different setting for some time and pocket the money in different business model. Once get bored just go back.
Kind of the mirror of guys who want to stay with a girl for extended time as GF-BF and try to behave like they become monogamous, yet in their heart they know it is only a matter of time they get bored to fuck the same girl and kick her out (or fuck others in parallel). Consequently, likelihood of a monger and a pro settling in a long term relationship is really low.
The non-pro was a bit of a surprise as all appeared good, however the pull of eating somtam and drink beer with friends almost every day is just so strong component of perceived freedom that can not be compromised.
Freedom. I don't know why some guys think that money can buy them love or loyalty or a person. Money is not everyhting and you can only use it to rent some pussy. Put yourself in their shoes.
As a matter of fact, when I was in the Navy I heard a story from a guy that had spent time in Japan. They used to go to the discos and meet chicks there. This one guy met a chick whose father was so rich that her and her brother had the same model Ferrari, but different colors. The girl wanted to marry the sailor but the father said he could do it only on condition that he could not go back to the States. The guy would be taken care of for the rest of his life though. He did not take the deal. Being able to go back home and do other shit he wanted, was worth more than the money dangling in front of his face. Would you have taken the deal? I know I sure as hell would not.
This is why you can use your money to get a chick, but you can't use it to keep her. No need to lead with money when you want to be serious about a chick. As we used to say in Brazil, if you want to know how someone really feels about you then show up without money. The shit is simple. You don't show up offering them material shit. You show up offering them yourself.
Nobody is suprised when some athlete or singer's wife or girlfriend that you know he would not gotten if he was not who he was leaves him. It is obvious she was there for the money, but she could only keep up that charade for so long before things beside money became more important.
OldSchool318
04-02-21, 18:24
"This is why you can use your money to get a chick, but you can't use it to keep her. No need to lead with money when you want to be serious about a chick. As we used to say in Brazil, if you want to know how someone really feels about you then show up without money. The shit is simple. You don't show up offering them material shit. You show up offering them yourself."
This can't buy me love. But damn sure can buy lots of fucking!
Danny Duck
04-02-21, 19:22
What worries me is why a guy would even offer a girl to be a Concubine in the first place.
They aren't Dogs or Cats or Rabbits even.
SinfullyKorean
04-02-21, 20:50
delete please. posted in wrong forum.
Danny Duck
04-02-21, 23:32
Can you link something? Thanks.People want my example of what a Smoking hot Thai barfine looks like.
Check out this Koreans guys catch, maybe Soi 6. In Pattaya though.
Pattaya local Chalao game to get beauty to work early.
On the tube of you.
I'd say 9 out of ten of us would say she is 3,000 baht quality.
Yeah is clear that people are reluctant giving up their freedom. I wouldn't beyond what I feel like giving.
However the girls have with serious face told she want to stay and be BF-GF, and surely they should know what it means. I never mentioned about anything like your Jap case, actually did not set any limits as wanted to see how they behave (and is against my life principles as well, people should be let be free to do what they want). So it kind of appears that they somewhere inside has a pocket that thinks they would like to live in GF-BF setting, yet they can't as the external factors pull them back.
Maybe it is all a show, without actual serious intent, to just live in different setting for some time and pocket the money in different business model. Once get bored just go back.
Kind of the mirror of guys who want to stay with a girl for extended time as GF-BF and try to behave like they become monogamous, yet in their heart they know it is only a matter of time they get bored to fuck the same girl and kick her out (or fuck others in parallel). Consequently, likelihood of a monger and a pro settling in a long term relationship is really low.
The non-pro was a bit of a surprise as all appeared good, however the pull of eating somtam and drink beer with friends almost every day is just so strong component of perceived freedom that can not be compromised.Yeah, that is how it happens in every case I am personally familiar with; it's the girl lobbying hard to be supported with regular income to help dig her and her family out of a mess. Funny to read the scenario imagined by some here that old geezers are targeting unsuspecting young party girls and begging them to stay home to blow them every night in a sad failed attempt to buy their love and loyalty. Lol. Ok. Whatever. Never started that way with anyone I know.
Now, in my case the 2-3 times I have reluctantly and with full knowledge that it ain't gonna last very long agreed to give it a go was when the girl lobbying hard for me to please see and repeat with her enough times to help her pay that huge family debt and so she doesn't have to work in the bar I did a simple business calculation to give her a bit less per week than I would spend if I were to see her under the previous bar conditions three times each week. And to pay her weekly at the end of the work week.
Naturally, I have only tried this the rare few times over the years that I met a hooker I liked, liked being with, liked fucking and getting sucked by so much I could actually imagine I would enjoy having her stay over as often as 3 times per week for a while.
Paying her a "salary" (at the end of each week) equal to less than I would need to lay out for a barfine (if any) and the going rate to her for a LT times 3 meant IF I only had her stay over for fucking and sucking three times per week I am ahead on the money and IF I took a notion to have her stay over more often than that overall it becomes an even better deal for me.
Explorer8939
04-03-21, 02:10
Yeah, that is how it happens in every case I am personally familiar with; it's the girl lobbying hard to be supported with regular income to help dig her and her family out of a mess. Funny to read the scenario imagined by some here that old geezers are targeting unsuspecting party girls and begging them to stay home to blow them every night in a failed attempt to buy their love and loyalty. LOL. Never happened that way with anyone I know.
Now, in my case the 2-3 times I have reluctantly and with full knowledge it ain't going to last very long agreed to give it a go was when the girl lobbying hard for me to please see her enough times to help her pay that huge family debt I did a simple business calculation to give her a bit less per week as if I were to see her under the previous bar conditions three times each week. And to pay her weekly at the end of the work week.
Naturally, I have only tried this the rare few times over the years that I met a hooker I liked, liked being with, liked fucking and getting sucked by so much I could actually imagine I would enjoy having her stay over as often as 3 times per week for a while.
Paying her a "salary" (at the end of each week) equal to less than I would need to lay out for a barfine (if any) and the going rate to her for a LT times 3 meant IF I only had her stay over for fucking and sucking three times per week I am ahead on the money and IF I took a notion to have her stay over more than that in a week it becomes an even better deal for me.Exactly.
If you are paying her weekly or monthly, and you calculate cost per fuck for that time period, and then compare to if you just pulled her from her bar for that period of time, see how that works pu.
Many ladies, however, miss working in the bar, and get antsy hanging out with you. My long term barfine loves to go to bars where ladies she knows work, and get them drunk and naked. That's a compromise between us that seems to keep her happy.
Another bargirl I know lives with a Thai boyfriend and has convinced him that she does "drinks only" with customers. But she will go ST with customers and thinks nothing of it. What her boyfriend doesn't know won't hurt him. And sex with customers doesn't count anyway, and doesn't help if she is horny. If a bargirl is horny, she can always go to molarm, and fuck a Thai man in the bathroom, a 3 minute pump and dump, for free.
Houston Player
04-03-21, 03:03
Yeah, that is how it happens in every case I am personally familiar with; it's the girl lobbying hard to be supported with regular income to help dig her and her family out of a mess. Funny to read the scenario imagined by some here that old geezers are targeting unsuspecting young party girls and begging them to stay home to blow them every night in a sad failed attempt to buy their love and loyalty. Lol. Ok. Whatever. Never started that way with anyone I know.
Now, in my case the 2-3 times I have reluctantly and with full knowledge that it ain't gonna last very long agreed to give it a go was when the girl lobbying hard for me to please see and repeat with her enough times to help her pay that huge family debt and so she doesn't have to work in the bar I did a simple business calculation to give her a bit less per week than I would spend if I were to see her under the previous bar conditions three times each week. And to pay her weekly at the end of the work week.
Naturally, I have only tried this the rare few times over the years that I met a hooker I liked, liked being with, liked fucking and getting sucked by so much I could actually imagine I would enjoy having her stay over as often as 3 times per week for a while.
Paying her a "salary" (at the end of each week) equal to less than I would need to lay out for a barfine (if any) and the going rate to her for a LT times 3 meant IF I only had her stay over for fucking and sucking three times per week I am ahead on the money and IF I took a notion to have her stay over more often than that overall it becomes an even better deal for me.How long does it have to last before you would call it a success? 2 years, 5 years, 10 years or when you decided to end it instead of the girl ending it? Depending on your answer maybe I can give you your first example of it happening.
SinfullyKorean
04-03-21, 03:16
People want my example of what a Smoking hot Thai barfine looks like.
Check out this Koreans guys catch, maybe Soi 6. In Pattaya though.
Pattaya local Chalao game to get beauty to work early.
On the tube of you.
I'd say 9 out of ten of us would say she is 3,000 baht quality.Again. No link!
How long does it have to last before you would call it a success? 2 years, 5 years, 10 years or when you decided to end it instead of the girl ending it? Depending on your answer maybe I can give you your first example of it happening.The girl usually has a stated goal, true or not; paying off an outstanding debt, building a house for mom in her province, setting up the kid in school, getting dad the surgery and out of the hospital, etc. So for the girl success is supposedly when that gets taken care of.
For me success would be as long as she is still earning it fair and square by the week without hassle and is providing Money For Value, offsetting money I would spend on other girls who likely would not hit all bases on what I want as surely and happily as this lucky girl does. Ha. I am capable of years long relationships with the right girls in the real world and have repeated under non weekly "salary" arrangements with favorites in the P4P world for as long as 2+ years.
However, the 3 or so times I tried the weekly support bit with hard lobbying bargirls it did not last more than a couple of weeks before they were too busy cycling back to the bar to meet me tonight, tomorrow or the day after that. The writing is pretty much on the wall by then that her guaranteed weekly "salary" paycheck envelope is going to be empty at the end of this week and the ones after that.
Houston Player
04-03-21, 05:29
The girl usually has a stated goal, true or not; paying off an outstanding debt, building a house for mom in her province, setting up the kid in school, getting dad the surgery and out of the hospital, etc. So for the girl success is supposedly when that gets taken care of.
For me success would be as long as she is still earning it fair and square by the week without hassle and is providing Money For Value, offsetting money I would spend on other girls who likely would not hit all bases on what I want as surely and happily as this lucky girl does. Ha. I am capable of years long relationships with the right girls in the real world and have repeated under non weekly "salary" arrangements with favorites in the P4P world for as long as 2+ years.
However, the 3 or so times I tried the weekly support bit with hard lobbying bargirls it did not last more than a couple of weeks before they were too busy cycling back to the bar to meet me tonight, tomorrow or the day after that. The writing is pretty much on the wall by then that her guaranteed weekly "salary" paycheck envelope is going to be empty at the end of this week and the ones after that.Ok now I think I understand for you it's still strictly a pay for play relationship with you actually getting more bang for your buck and nothing more. As long as you're still getting the same exact level of sexual service as you were before you're happy and it's a success. It never develops into anymore of a friendship where the amount of sex is not as important as long as the passionate service is the same?
The reason I asked is because even though several posters have shared that their experiences with bar girls are the same as yours I would contend that each one was different because each one was wanting something a little different than you were wanting. Some were trying to make it more of a relationship and were concerned about what the girl was doing when she wasn't with them, trying to control them like a girlfriend instead of a business arrangement.
Danny Duck
04-03-21, 05:46
Again. No link!Go to tube of you. Use search function. I gave title of his video.
Use the sentence with word Chalao in function.
You will not be disappointed. That girl gets prettier every time I look.
Ok now I think I understand for you it's still strictly a pay for play relationship with you actually getting more bang for your buck and nothing more. As long as you're still getting the same exact level of sexual service as you were before you're happy and it's a success. It never develops into anymore of a friendship where the amount of sex is not as important as long as the passionate service is the same?
The reason I asked is because even though several posters have shared that their experiences with bar girls are the same as yours I would contend that each one was different because each one was wanting something a little different than you were wanting. Some were trying to make it more of a relationship and were concerned about what the girl was doing when she wasn't with them, trying to control them like a girlfriend instead of a business arrangement.You know, I do think there is an element of wanting to be that particular girl's sole source of dick that adds to convincing me and perhaps other guys to agree to such an arrangement with a girl. Ok, let's be real and say it is at least the pretense of it that helps sweeten the deal. It is probably inseparable from the same feeling about a girl that would inspire me to repeat with her all that often anyway. Something special, more than just another session with another girl.
So I would not say it is strictly required that I must get off sexually for every day and night we are together under that kind of arrangement. There is also Money For Value in knowing one of your favorites if not your absolute favorite is there for you either today, tonight or tomorrow more or less any time you are not interested in putting up with the bullshit of some new potential nutcase or scammer.
The hunt is fun but not day and night every day all the time. For me at my age, that is.
Tell you a little secret. I started this kind of arrangement, my 3rd time experimenting with it in the past 8 years, with a bargirl I found to be one of the sexiest and most desirable ones on the scene during this New World Covid Order. Wonder of wonders, we are in our 3rd week and it is better now than the first week. We'll see how it goes.
A side benefit is it makes for very interesting, don't give a damn if they take it or leave it negotiations with other girls knowing that any refusal to accept my terms at my price only means that, worst case scenario, I will just have to settle for fucking or getting sucked dry by a personal favorite who I happen to believe would be a prize score for any red-blooded heterosexual man. Of course, I am biased about that now.
Houston Player
04-03-21, 12:35
You know, I do think there is an element of wanting to be that particular girl's sole source of dick that adds to convincing me and perhaps other guys to agree to such an arrangement with a girl. Ok, let's be real and say it is at least the pretense of it that helps sweeten the deal. It is probably inseparable from the same feeling about a girl that would inspire me to repeat with her all that often anyway. Something special, more than just another session with another girl.
So I would not say it is strictly required that I must get off sexually for every day and night we are together under that kind of arrangement. There is also Money For Value in knowing one of your favorites if not your absolute favorite is there for you either today, tonight or tomorrow more or less any time you are not interested in putting up with the bullshit of some new potential nutcase or scammer.
The hunt is fun but not day and night every day all the time. For me at my age, that is.
Tell you a little secret. I started this kind of arrangement, my 3rd time experimenting with it in the past 8 years, with a bargirl I found to be one of the sexiest and most desirable ones on the scene during this New World Covid Order. Wonder of wonders, we are in our 3rd week and it is better now than the first week. We'll see how it goes.
A side benefit is it makes for very interesting, don't give a damn if they take it or leave it negotiations with other girls knowing that any refusal to accept my terms at my price only means that, worst case scenario, I will just have to settle for fucking or getting sucked dry by a personal favorite who I happen to believe would be a prize score for any red-blooded heterosexual man. Of course, I am biased about that now.Now I'm on board as I have an 18 month agreement that's been going on since the first lockdown. I still have sex with my other regulars and add a new one occasionally. The girl has not gone back to the bar but she does go out with friends however not when she's supposed to be with me. I'm very flexible because I want my share of different girls. We have sex whenever I want but sometimes we just go to dinner and a movie. At my age I can't finish as often as she can and I don't care for sex when it becomes work instead of fun.
Mr Enternational
04-03-21, 13:39
If you are paying her weekly or monthly, and you calculate cost per fuck for that time period, and then compare to if you just pulled her from her bar for that period of time, see how that works pu.If I was planning to fuck the same chick that many times I would just get a normal chick that I did not have to pay.
If I was planning to fuck the same chick that many times I would just get a normal chick that I did not have to pay. Sure, if this normal Thai chick you are thinking about is only interested in meeting you and only you for free sex with no strings attached, emotional, financial or otherwise while she does all the traveling to and from your door, that would definitely be a better deal.
You meet lots of youngish lookers in Thailand available and up for that arrangement virtually any time of the day or night that suits you much more often than it does her?
Danny Duck
04-03-21, 17:32
You know, I do think there is an element of wanting to be that particular girl's sole source of dick that adds to convincing me and perhaps other guys to agree to such an arrangement with a girl. Ok, let's be real and say it is at least the pretense of it that helps sweeten the deal. It is probably inseparable from the same feeling about a girl that would inspire me to repeat with her all that often anyway. Something special, more than just another session with another girl.
So I would not say it is strictly required that I must get off sexually for every day and night we are together under that kind of arrangement. There is also Money For Value in knowing one of your favorites if not your absolute favorite is there for you either today, tonight or tomorrow more or less any time you are not interested in putting up with the bullshit of some new potential nutcase or scammer.
The hunt is fun but not day and night every day all the time. For me at my age, that is.
Tell you a little secret. I started this kind of arrangement, my 3rd time experimenting with it in the past 8 years, with a bargirl I found to be one of the sexiest and most desirable ones on the scene during this New World Covid Order. Wonder of wonders, we are in our 3rd week and it is better now than the first week. We'll see how it goes..I've still yet to see a Thai girls room with posters of old Farangs on the wall.
Superstar male Asian s. I do see them all the time.
Same with FB. Girls just don't post photos of old men on their feeds.
Request for you tube hot Bargirl Barfined by Korean. Maybe links not allowed here. LOL.
Danny Duck
04-03-21, 18:39
One year out of Thai- no biggie.
Watch Korean boy livestream party with pretty Thai girls makes me realize how much I miss Bangkok.
The guy is in a Real Club with a live musical Band.
He has darn good taste in Thai Girls.
Un freaking Real.
The girls are Pretty and not Camera shy.
I've still yet to see a Thai girls room with posters of old Farangs on the wall.
Superstar male Asian s. I do see them all the time.
Same with FB. Girls just don't post photos of old men on their feeds.
Request for you tube hot Bargirl Barfined by Korean. Maybe links not allowed here. LOL.I am just happy to be able to fuck them for a few dollars. The rest I don't care about. Doesn't concern me one bit.
I've still yet to see a Thai girls room with posters of old Farangs on the wall.
Superstar male Asian s. I do see them all the time.
Same with FB. Girls just don't post photos of old men on their feeds.
Request for you tube hot Bargirl Barfined by Korean. Maybe links not allowed here. LOL.You know what I often see posted by Thai girls on their Line Timelines? Posters and pics of money. Stacks of it. Fanned out on tables covered with it.
They won't get that from hot young boys used to getting younger and better looking girls than they are for free.
MutantChicken
04-04-21, 06:37
Go to tube of you. Use search function. I gave title of his video.
Use the sentence with word Chalao in function.
You will not be disappointed. That girl gets prettier every time I look.I'm not really impressed seems like my usual type of pick ups in Pattaya here is a pic of a 1000 baht beach road pickup pre covid.
BTW the channel is Puchai tv, included are a few other 1000 baht girls I picked up over the years.
MutantChicken
04-04-21, 06:43
You know what I often see posted by Thai girls on their Line Timelines? Posters and pics of money. Stacks of it. Fanned out on tables covered with it.
They won't get that from hot young boys used to getting younger and better looking girls than they are for free.What you say is kinda true, but the truth is unless you are a movie star or a model most young boys will be paying for it, most young boys in modern society are beta males who have been beaten down by women that they lost the ability to get it for free. So unless you are a 70 yr old billionaire, the money you will be using to compete for Thai girls will be the same level of money a 25 yr old has, this is evidenced by all the weekend millionaires walking about pre covid.
People want my example of what a Smoking hot Thai barfine looks like.
Check out this Koreans guys catch, maybe Soi 6. In Pattaya though.
Pattaya local Chalao game to get beauty to work early.
On the tube of you.
I'd say 9 out of ten of us would say she is 3,000 baht quality.The girl in this video?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E2K-OSNFkSU
I am not Korean Superstar. But maybe I am a shining Star.
Doubt if these Thai girls have posters of guys like me pinned on their walls.
Watched the YouTube video "Pattaya Local Chalao Game to Get Beauty to Work Early."
What's the commotion all about?
The cute Thai chick with short hair?
Is she worth 3000 baht quality?
Hell if I know? Monkeypaw smashes that ass for just 1300 repeatedly.
Nope, not a Korean Superstar, just a mere Monkeypaw.
If people want some help with identifying hot Thai girls, no need to dial 611 for Customer Service on your phone. Who you going to call?
If there's something strange, in your hotel room.
Who you going to call?
Ho-buster!
If there's a teddy bear, and all it do is stare.
Who you going to call?
Ho-buster!
If there's a blinking light, and it flashes twice.
Who you going to call?
Ho-buster!
I ain't afraid o' no ho.
I ain't afraid o' no ho.
Who ya going to call?
Ho-buster!
If you're all alone, pick up the damn phone.
And call- The Ho-buster!
P.S. I have a gift for seeming to get really lucky with finding gems (even on Beach Road rare as that is). Who else can say they paid less than 60 baht for 5 meals? Hate to say I told you sold. The Unicorn in Pattaya.
Danny Duck
04-04-21, 07:45
You know what I often see posted by Thai girls on their Line Timelines? Posters and pics of money. Stacks of it. Fanned out on tables covered with it.
They won't get that from hot young boys used to getting younger and better looking girls than they are for free.During the heyday of the nana Plaza Rainbows I used to see youngish guys spending like there's no tomorrow.
How has it come to the thinking young guys don't have money?
It's absurd.
Old guys come into a Rainbow rarely if not Never have I seen an older Guy make it Rain.
I know as I aged the less desire I had to spend non-chalantly.
Crazy4Thai
04-04-21, 13:02
If I was planning to fuck the same chick that many times I would just get a normal chick that I did not have to pay.40 years ago my elderly next door neighbor said to me "it's easy to be young". Now that I am not, the chick that I could attract that I did not have to pay would probably have zero appeal. I'll take the paid arrangement and enjoy the carnal delights.
Mr Enternational
04-04-21, 14:30
40 years ago my elderly next door neighbor said to me "it's easy to be young". Now that I am not, the chick that I could attract that I did not have to pay would probably have zero appeal. I'll take the paid arrangement and enjoy the carnal delights.I do not mind paid arrangements, but I am a variety kind of guy. I am not about to pay the noodle stand monthly so that I can go by everyday and get the same chicken and noodles. Hell, even if it was free I would not want to eat those same noodles all the time. That is why with hookers I prefer to pay as I go as I would a hotel, instead of investing in the time-share or long-term lease plan.
Explorer8939
04-04-21, 16:30
I've still yet to see a Thai girls room with posters of old Farangs on
Same with FB. Girls just don't post photos of old men on their feeds.
Request for you tube hot Bargirl Barfined by Korean. Maybe links not allowed here. LOL.Yeah, I see ladies posting old guys on their Facebook. It's a way of showing off that they have money. What they don't show is their Thai boyfriend, unless they stop working.
Explorer8939
04-04-21, 16:31
If I was planning to fuck the same chick that many times I would just get a normal chick that I did not have to pay.Good luck finding a normal chick in Pattaya.
Mr Enternational
04-04-21, 16:42
Good luck finding a normal chick in Pattaya.No luck needed. Even before living in Pattaya I had girlfriends there that were not hookers. Teachers, real estate agents, etc. Even have had chicks that were hookers but I did not need to pay. Hell I have even had chicks that I thought were hookers, but when I gave them money they were confused and said what is this for. Pattaya is like a box of chocolates. You eat whatever you bite in to.
No luck needed. Even before living in Pattaya I had girlfriends there that were not hookers. Teachers, real estate agents, etc. Even have had chicks that were hookers but I did not need to pay. Hell I have even had chicks that I thought were hookers, but when I gave them money they were confused and said what is this for. Pattaya is like a box of chocolates. You eat whatever you bite in to.If you broaden your horizon outside the typical mongering places, I can attest that indeed there are normal girls around just like in any other city on the planet. Big industrial areas right outside Pattaya with tons of women working in addition to the teachers and nurses etc locally. Many looking for foreign boyfriends actually. Challenge is to change the search mindset away from the typical monger approach to address that market.
However, depending on what you are looking for, you need luck. If you are 60 and look for 20 yr 9 or 10 who fucks your brains out for free, indeed need luck, quite a bit actually.
But if you are 50+ and OK with decent 30-40 yr old 7, things start to change. Then again you need a bit of luck to come across one that performs reasonably well. Or maybe just my experience that quite a few normal ones do not perform well. But some are firecrackers. Just like in any other country.
And if you are after longer term, need a bit of luck to find that actually ends up lower per pop cost than a pro (as many tend to have expectation that farang BF will take care lady.).
Dealing with hookers is simple, but once you step to normal world, you get involved with the normal world complications of emotions, expectations, cultural issues, etc etc. I have one normal ongoing again after dumping the previous that could not resist friednds and somtam, and maybe need to call off her as well as her expectations are getting too serious. Need to be careful what you ask for.
During the heyday of the nana Plaza Rainbows I used to see youngish guys spending like there's no tomorrow.
How has it come to the thinking young guys don't have money?
It's absurd.
Old guys come into a Rainbow rarely if not Never have I seen an older Guy make it Rain.
I know as I aged the less desire I had to spend non-chalantly.I don't generally see youngish guys walking out of clubs, go-go bars, in or out of hotels with hotter girls than most old dudes can also be seen going with. I have seen the youngish guys throwing money around in the bars too. And then walking out alone.
Maybe they meet the girls after hours. But then they'd be getting sloppy seconds or thirds after the old dudes barfined them out for STs earlier in the evening.
I do not mind paid arrangements, but I am a variety kind of guy. I am not about to pay the noodle stand monthly so that I can go by everyday and get the same chicken and noodles. Hell, even if it was free I would not want to eat those same noodles all the time. That is why with hookers I prefer to pay as I go as I would a hotel, instead of investing in the time-share or long-term lease plan.I think in the case of the kind of "pay weekly and after" arrangements some of us have mentioned here the analogy would be you already finding yourself interested in cycling back to the same noodle stand right outside your door at least 2-3 times per week anyway. And then their promotional offer to you is to eat there as much as you want anytime this week, the next week, the week after that and so on until you don't like the food there anymore but only pay them the equivalent cost of two and a half bowls of noodles at the end of each week until that time finally arrives.
That time might arrive as soon as the end of next week, in which case you came out ahead on the Money For Food Value From That Stand ratio. But if it turns out that time doesn't arrive for a month or two, well then you came out WAY ahead on the Money For Food Value From That Stand.
Either way you're only going to pay for those two and a half bowls per week at the end of the week after you have eaten god knows how much food from that stand. And the first week you don't eat at least two and a half bowls worth out of boredom or because they went out of business is the week you stop paying.
It really is hard to see the customer losing much with the potential of gaining plenty in that kind of promotional offer as long as he liked the food from there enough to repeat 2-3 times per week to begin with.
Hmm.. I'm not so interested in noodles so I probably should have used an American style breakfast, chocolate chip cookies or something else I do seek out at least 2-3 times per week in my analogy.
Danny Duck
04-04-21, 18:51
The girl in this video?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E2K-OSNFkSU
I am not Korean Superstar. But maybe I am a shining Star.
Doubt if these Thai girls have posters of guys like me pinned on their walls.
Watched the YouTube video "Pattaya Local Chalao Game to Get Beauty to Work Early."
What's the commotion all about?
The cute Thai chick with short hair?
Is she worth 3000 baht quality?That's the one. Good job.
You got to agree the girl runs Rings around the normal Soi 6 girl.
I like her.
As I type this the guy is Livestream ING right now.
Very little English. Check him out if you Miss Thailand.
Damn bro, post of the year!
The girl in this video?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E2K-OSNFkSU
I am not Korean Superstar. But maybe I am a shining Star.
Doubt if these Thai girls have posters of guys like me pinned on their walls.
Watched the YouTube video "Pattaya Local Chalao Game to Get Beauty to Work Early."
What's the commotion all about?
The cute Thai chick with short hair?
Is she worth 3000 baht quality?.
SinfullyKorean
04-05-21, 03:43
One year out of Thai- no biggie.
Watch Korean boy livestream party with pretty Thai girls makes me realize how much I miss Bangkok.
The guy is in a Real Club with a live musical Band.
He has darn good taste in Thai Girls.
Un freaking Real.
The girls are Pretty and not Camera shy.Haha, thanks for that. Got hooked and watched a few. Fortunately, I understand most of what he's saying. But don't understand the 1 HR for 10듬. Not sure what price he means by that at the club.
Banana Boi
04-05-21, 04:44
Thanks for actually posting a url MP. I just don't understand some posters who beat around the bush and don't post the url instead writing in code for us to try to figure out the url. Homie got no time for that.
Thought that was my Mook from Soi 6 at first but it isn't unless Mook got some more plastic surgery. Very similar though.
Danny Duck
04-05-21, 05:06
Haha, thanks for that. Got hooked and watched a few. Fortunately, I understand most of what he's saying. But don't understand the 1 HR for 10듬. Not sure what price he means by that at the club.Next stop- his livestream s.
You won't be disappointed.
Way better than that Chalao'd video.
Trust me.
Good luck finding a normal chick in Pattaya.Never said its not possible, but just not possible for me.
1) the longest time (at one time) I've stayed in Thailand is about a month. So maybe not enough time overall to explore.
2) language is also a big deterrent. I don't speak Thai and so makes communication difficult.
3) I've tried to find normal girls but never had any real success.
So, for my limited time in LOS, I've mainly gone back to the mongering P4 P route. Yes, more expensive way to go but at least its more (or less) guaranteed to get some relief. Also, the quickie way means no baggage and less drama and no attachment.
From my experiences only.
Cheers.
Danny Duck
04-05-21, 07:41
For those of you who are not into Pretty young Thai girls I've found a Gem for you.
On that famous channel. Search Miss Jira Thailand. Not a Batgirl. But entertaining to say the least.
I don't watch her content I just comment. She really has a pleased personality.
I don't know how to do linking on my mobile.
For those of you who are not into Pretty young Thai girls I've found a Gem for you.
On that famous channel. Search Miss Jira Thailand. Not a Batgirl. But entertaining to say the least.
I don't watch her content I just comment. She really has a pleased personality.
I don't know how to do linking on my mobile.This is her channel. I watch her from time to time.
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC3D0W0xfwxSs3XFvZtxFA-g
I like her video called Birthday's dance with my friends. She's a bit older than most guys here like. I find her very attractive.
Danny Duck
04-06-21, 00:09
To my amazement those soi 6 livestream can be quite entertaining.
A darker skin Beam, not at all bad looking, when she preens the right way you can almost see her Nipples. LOL. That Bra to breast ratio thing.
Not as vulgar as Monkey Man photos but those streams are not that.
Sad thing is no walk traffic at all up and down the Soi.
Banana Boi
04-06-21, 01:39
I assume she has / had a German Farang in her life since she can speak German.
I don't know how to do linking on my mobile.
I can't believe I have to explain this. There's an arrow and the word share on Youtube. Click on the arrow. Click Copy link. Post copied link on your ISG thread. Go back in the thread and make sure the link works.
SinfullyKorean
04-06-21, 02:45
I can't believe I have to explain this. There's an arrow and the word share on Youtube. Click on the arrow. Click Copy link. Post copied link on your ISG thread. Go back in the thread and make sure the link works.Too much work. It's easier to do on a computer. He provided sufficient info to look it up on youtube anyways.
Danny Duck
04-06-21, 03:16
I assume she has / had a German Farang in her life since she can speak German.Will look into it. I'm not by any means an expert on computer usage.
Took me awhile before I even knew how to copy and paste.
Banana Boi
04-06-21, 04:18
Too much work. It's easier to do on a computer. He provided sufficient info to look it up on youtube anyways.Too much work? Takes 5 seconds max.
Can't see how it's better that the original OP doesn't post the url but writes a cryptic message of where a person may find the video is better. Now every person who may be interested in viewing the video needs to spend time searching for it because you are too lazy to spend 5 seconds copying the link of the web site you are already on.
Danny Duck
04-06-21, 06:30
It's a pretty girl Pattaya in a video, hold onto your undies. If you not interested move on.
So my ace king got booted by a ace jack in a poker tournament.
Hop on to the Channel. Miss Jira is driving and livestream today. Today she look extra Pretty.
She on her way to buy coffee. I write don't drive and livestream. Man the haters, her Fans will fight for her honor. Hahaha.
Shortly after she runs over something and abruptly ends the stream.
Hope she ran over a Cat.
During the whole 2 minutes you can see her eyes going back and forth. Road then monitor then Road. Cringeworthy.
To my amazement those soi 6 livestream can be quite entertaining.
A darker skin Beam, not at all bad looking, when she preens the right way you can almost see her Nipples. LOL. That Bra to breast ratio thing.
Not as vulgar as Monkey Man photos but those streams are not that.
Sad thing is no walk traffic at all up and down the Soi.Streaming may slowly kill Soi 6. Internet has unlimited amount of cucks and simps. Before streaming era they had no access to these girls, not it's free and available and they shower girls.
With free money. I have seen some cutest girl from S6 move to onlyfans and streaming services, for many of them it's enough profit and they can work at home. New generations of men will be mostly 'digital' used to cams, onlyfans and steamingservices. Many of them are young men who will fall for these girls and spent all income as it will only way to get attention and validation from female. With coming 5 G ultrafast internet VR streaming will be possible and it will be even more popular.
Explorer8939
04-06-21, 15:07
Never said its not possible, but just not possible for me.
1) the longest time (at one time) I've stayed in Thailand is about a month. So maybe not enough time overall to explore.
2) language is also a big deterrent. I don't speak Thai and so makes communication difficult.
3) I've tried to find normal girls but never had any real success.
So, for my limited time in LOS, I've mainly gone back to the mongering P4 P route. Yes, more expensive way to go but at least its more (or less) guaranteed to get some relief. Also, the quickie way means no baggage and less drama and no attachment.
From my experiences only.
Cheers.Here I should post a warning.
Trying to hook up with a civvie in Pattaya is fraught with danger. The first thing to know that Thai ladies will fuck foreigners even if they have a Thai husband, because it doesn't count. You can be living 24 hours a day with a Thai lady, and not know she has a Thai boyfriend or husband.
In fact, Thai ladies are capable of pulling off the ultímate long con: they live you to death (courtesy of Doctor Who). They hook up with an older foreigner, go to his country to live with periodic trips back to Thailand to see the husband, and then when he dies, go back to Thailand with his lifetime earnings to share with the husband. Most cons aren't that extreme. I once hooked up with a lady who was married, saw on her Facebook that she had a husband, and didn't tell her I knew.
Explorer8939
04-06-21, 15:15
No luck needed. Even before living in Pattaya I had girlfriends there that were not hookers. Teachers, real estate agents, etc. Even have had chicks that were hookers but I did not need to pay. Hell I have even had chicks that I thought were hookers, but when I gave them money they were confused and said what is this for. Pattaya is like a box of chocolates. You eat whatever you bite in to.I am always entertained by guys posting on monger boards about their civvie conquests. Apart from credibility issues, such posts are not appropriate here.
I am always entertained by guys posting on monger boards about their civvie conquests. Apart from credibility issues, such posts are not appropriate here.Guys like me who only pay for sex would shun those posts but they are, in fact, appropriate. I take them with a grain of salt as unlike posts regarding paid sex they cannot be verified.
HorseTrader
04-06-21, 16:50
Guys like me who only pay for sex would shun those posts but they are, in fact, appropriate. I take them with a grain of salt as unlike posts regarding paid sex they cannot be verified.Agree, those posts are appropriate. The forum is about men finding women for sex, no requirement for it to be commercial sex.
I've gotten free sex every trip I've made to Thailand. Met some through ThaiFriendly and ThaiFlirting. Met another at a coffee shop (customer) and another worked at my hotel. For each case my free sex was with women who were looking for a farang husband and wanted to live in a western country. If I find the right woman, I would do exactly that and stop being a punter. So far that hasn't happened. My life as a punter continues.
None of the reports on this forum can be verified. Doesn't matter if they are paid or unpaid.
Agree, those posts are appropriate. The forum is about men finding women for sex, no requirement for it to be commercial sex.
I've gotten free sex every trip I've made to Thailand. Met some through ThaiFriendly and ThaiFlirting. Met another at a coffee shop (customer) and another worked at my hotel. For each case my free sex was with women who were looking for a farang husband and wanted to live in a western country. If I find the right woman, I would do exactly that and stop being a punter. So far that hasn't happened. My life as a punter continues.
None of the reports on this forum can be verified. Doesn't matter if they are paid or unpaid.Last time I was in BKK I was fucking hotel receptionist for two weeks every single day and after her I nailed nice office girl two times (who introduced me to their parents on second date) the ultrathin condom broke both times and I almost got her pregnant. Sex was more passionate and relaxed than with working girls. Office girl took me even for some tourists trips, it was nice. I met both girls online got lots of sex and paid 0 baht. Next time I go Thailand besides P2P for sure I will try to squeeze some action from local girls because I enjoy the thrill of hunt for free pussy and it gives full girlfriend experience.
Crocodilexp
04-06-21, 20:16
Guys like me who only pay for sex would shun those posts but they are, in fact, appropriate. I take them with a grain of salt as unlike posts regarding paid sex they cannot be verified.Posting about civilian conquests is apparently allowed, but not at all interesting unless it's about a venue where civilians looking for Farang congregate on a regular basis.
The purpose of this forum is to get useful info about a sex scene, or just a feel for it, not to read countless posts about guys bragging about their exploits which are not accessible to the next guy.
JohnReter335
04-06-21, 20:41
Too much work. It's easier to do on a computer. He provided sufficient info to look it up on youtube anyways.Right internet is the best option for fast easy work.
Mr Enternational
04-06-21, 22:22
Here I should post a warning.
Trying to hook up with a civvie in Pattaya is fraught with danger. LOL. Are you really making rocket science out of dating women? You are seriously overthinking this.
I am always entertained by guys posting on monger boards about their civvie conquests. Apart from credibility issues, such posts are not appropriate here.Au contraire mon frere. Maybe you missed the purpose of this forum on your rush to enter. But I am here to remind you as others already have. According to the forum owner:
"The purpose of this Forum is to facilitate the exchange of information between men who are looking for sex with women. ".
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/faq.php?faq=faq_general_questions#faq_faq_general_questions_01
That means on this forum it is appropriate to talk about paid women, free women, old women, young women, white women, black women, underweight women, and overweight women to name a few. There is no limit by the forum owner on the types of women that can be discussed here as long as they are at least 18 and are not male.
Having met in person at least 100 guys from this website in various countries over the last 16 years and remained good friends with some of them, I sure would not be one of the board members with credibility issues. But take your entertainment however you can get it.
I just don't get why some posters make meeting normal women out to be some unrealistic and unbelievable thing. It is the fucking normal and mainstream thing to do.
Streaming may slowly kill Soi 6. Internet has unlimited amount of cucks and simps. Before streaming era they had no access to these girls, now it's free and available and they shower girls with free money. I have seen some cutest girls from Soi 6 move to streaming services. For many it's enough profit and they can work at home. New generations of men will be mostly digital, used to cams and streaming services. With coming 5 G ultra-fast internet virtual reality streaming will be possible and it will be even more popular.Mr. Wolvman's prediction is interesting, but I am less confident than he is about the Soi 6 experience becoming virtual.
First, the quality of the online product is lousy.
Almost all of the girls are overweight, covered in tattoos and giving off a hard nasty vibe. I realize some guys like that, but I think they're in the minority.
The lack of "talent" isn't the only problem. The live streams have ZERO production values. The aforementioned fatty tattys cluster in front of a phone trying to look hot. It's all PG-rated because they can't get naked in an open-front bar. Guys watch the low-resolution, poorly-lighted feed and send small amounts of money. Compared to all the other online experiences catering to horny guys, the Soi 6 product is in the bottom 25%.
Yes, the technology exists to create a high definition, virtual reality feed. But the bars aren't going to do that because it takes money and technical expertise. If they decided to do that, why not close the bar and build a studio someplace where the rent is 90% less? That's never going to happen because they need to sell drinks. And even if they tried, they would still be working with the same unattractive talent, maybe even LESS attractive girls who'd be willing to work in a remote location without the chance to earn drink commissions.
Second, and more importantly, the online product will never be even 10% as entertaining as experiencing Soi 6 in person. When a guy is there in person, he revels in the POSSIBILITY of the place. The ability to go from one end of the soi to the other knowing he can hook up with any girl he sees is intoxicating. In person, he can see ALL the girls, not just the handful who agree to be on camera. Almost always, he can find somebody he thinks is hot. If he fancies a chinwag, there are instant friends on every stool. Things to eat. The constant parade going by. During his search he'll probably knock back a few drinks -- at which point even the fat chicks start to look good.
Third, when a guy visits Soi 6 he can get as much or as little physical contact as he wants. Actual skin-on-skin touch. Perhaps he wants to retire to the back room with a girl and buy her a drink. There is nothing online that can match curling up on the sofa next to somebody he likes who is at least pretending to be sweet. There is no technology that duplicates the thrill when she sticks her tiny little hand into his pants, or kisses him hard on the mouth. And I'll be long dead by the time virtual reality duplicates the experience of going upstairs for a warm soapy shower and half an hour of heavy breathing.
Remember, the Soi 6 live streams are a desperate effort to make the best of a dire situation -- not their core business. A stopgap. A Hail Mary pass. For the time being, they have some novelty value. But as I noted earlier if you're looking for inspiration while you hang out with Mr. Chuck Wow there is far better stuff available online from people whose core competency is producing porn, not selling drinks.
If you're happy with low resolution crap, the tube and torrent sites are free and numerous. If you prefer higher quality video there is a ton of product out there for every taste at modest fees. Some of the European talent is movie star hot and the video quality is superb. With a broadband connection you can download enough 4K content in a weekend to spank the monkey for months. If you want some individual interaction and you're willing to pay, the cam girls and phone sex girls will take your money.
None of this is to say that Soi 6 doesn't have challenges. Even before the travel bans the talent was fading fast and the prices were climbing. My personal view is that by 2018 or so Pattaya had expanded so fast that the talent was spread too thin and there were too many low quality establishments chasing too few naughty boys. Perhaps COVID will drive out the weak talent and the weak managers, and we'll see a better Pattaya experience when unrestricted travel returns. I sure hope so.
Bunky.
Franciscass
04-07-21, 05:41
No luck needed. Even before living in Pattaya I had girlfriends there that were not hookers. Teachers, real estate agents, etc. Even have had chicks that were hookers but I did not need to pay. Hell I have even had chicks that I thought were hookers, but when I gave them money they were confused and said what is this for. Pattaya is like a box of chocolates. You eat whatever you bite in to.Possible when she saw the 500 Baht, she said what is this for didn't I mention It was 3000 Baht.
Banana Boi
04-07-21, 06:19
I am always entertained by guys posting on monger boards about their civvie conquests. Apart from credibility issues, such posts are not appropriate here.
Guys like me who only pay for sex would shun those posts but they are, in fact, appropriate. I take them with a grain of salt as unlike posts regarding paid sex they cannot be verified.I'm against guys who go look for free sex taking advantage of women wanting more than boom boom but if you live here or are on an extended stay it happens even if you're not trying, assuming you are funny and have some charm that is. For some reason these Thai girls just want to hang out. Maybe it's because I will always pay for their food or pay for their drinks when we go to a club on their days off. Then again, there are some guys incapable of picking up girls in their home country or in Thailand.
Having met in person at least 100 guys from this website in various countries over the last 16 years and remained good friends with some of them, I sure would not be one of the board members with credibility issues. But take your entertainment however you can get it.
I just don't get why some posters make meeting normal women out to be some unrealistic and unbelievable thing. It is the fucking normal and mainstream thing to do.I've met about 50 ISG guys in the past 10+ years. Pretty certain I'm credible. I have stopped meeting new guys but sometimes it just happens by accident.
None of the reports on this forum can be verified. Doesn't matter if they are paid or unpaid.Someone who gets it! Don't believe everything you read on here. You'd be naive to do so.
Danny Duck
04-07-21, 07:38
So I keep watching that Korean boy vid over and over again. Something's just not kosher.
The girl on the stool fronting the road that he drinks with most of the video.
Is not the girl he barfined.
They look similar but not exact. They must be real sisters. Hahaha. Hahaha.
HorseTrader
04-07-21, 14:40
Streaming may slowly kill Soi 6. Internet has unlimited amount of cucks and simps. Before streaming era they had no access to these girls, not it's free and available and they shower girls.I've never looked at anything like Onlyfans, that's simply not my thing. The Soi 6 live videos seem to be failing. Months ago I would see girls smiling and dancing and several people would be watching and occasionally somebody would buy a drink. Now, the girls seem to be more interested in their phones and there might be only 1 to 3 people watching and I haven't seen anybody buy a drink recently. These comments are based on my spot checking of those videos, perhaps a rigorous check would show something different.
Occasionally Suzy Wong in Phuket will sponsor a live video. That is a major upgrade over Soi 6. Girls looking as good as possible. Smiles. Dancing. Interact with online customers. Much better than the Soi 6 equivalent, but still very few drinks purchased. The Suzy Wong video streams are only done occasionally, which probably is a statement regarding the financial success of the concept.
If Soi 6 dies, it won't be due to streaming. Video cannot replace the personal contact of being together with people.
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If Soi 6 dies, it won't be due to streaming. Video cannot replace the personal contact of being together with people.Dunno. They might lose my custom for one because of streaming. I've stood for minutes on end looking at girls while they were at the back of the room clustered in front of a camera. Not one took the trouble to come forward and find out what I wanted. The only girls still paying attention to the street were camera-shy girls. Not all bad-looking but not a selection of soi 6's best either.
I have only been here 3 weeks but during these 3 weeks I've had the feeling Soi 6 has got slightly worse.
Seems the only expats left right now in Pattaya are those who have long been accustomed to being priced out of the Thai sex market. For years now, going to a gogo has meant to those expats no more than having a drink to be allowed to look at girls for twenty minutes.
Hotels are 30% cheaper, foot massage is 30% cheaper, taxis are 50% cheaper, sex is the same price (when it's at all available).
...The purpose of this forum is to get useful info about a sex scene, or just a feel for it, not to read countless posts about guys bragging about their exploits which are not accessible to the next guy.True, I pay for sex all the time, non-pros (girlfriends) probably more. My girlfriends are my business and not that of mongers.
Mr Enternational
04-07-21, 15:20
If Soi 6 dies, it won't be due to streaming. Video cannot replace the personal contact of being together with people.You might want to take a look at Japan and Korea if you think people need personal contact. The women are in it for the money and if they can get close to the same money by doing something easier then they won't give a fuck about hanging around horny foreigners. How do you think they ended up on Soi 6 anyway? Because it is easier than farmlife. Now if they can just pop in front of a camera anytime they wanted they would have it made even better.
...I've met about 50 ISG guys in the past 10+ years. ...I've met 0 ISG guys in the destinations I've visited and hope to keep it that way. Cannot think of a worse way of spending my time, prefer the company of the local females instead.
HorseTrader
04-07-21, 15:45
You might want to take a look at Japan and Korea if you think people need personal contact. The women are in it for the money and if they can get close to the same money by doing something easier then they won't give a fuck about hanging around horny foreigners. How do you think they ended up on Soi 6 anyway? Because it is easier than farmlife. Now if they can just pop in front of a camera anytime they wanted they would have it made even better.Sure, going in front of a video camera is easier for the girls, but how much money will the men spend? I know what I will spend on video, zero. On the other hand, while in kingdom I average 2500-4000 baht per day for girls plus another 5000 baht per day for other things.
HorseTrader
04-07-21, 15:53
Dunno. They might lose my custom for one because of streaming. I've stood for minutes on end looking at girls while they were at the back of the room clustered in front of a camera. Not one took the trouble to come forward and find out what I wanted. The only girls still paying attention to the street were camera-shy girls. Not all bad-looking but not a selection of soi 6's best either.They are favoring potential cyber customers over flesh and blood customers only 10 meters away? That is very foolish. You might buy several drinks plus boom boom, very few cyber customers will spend that much money.
They are favoring potential cyber customers over flesh and blood customers only 10 meters away? That is very foolish. You might buy several drinks plus boom boom, very few cyber customers will spend that much money.I don't buy drinks at Soi 6, I never did.
They are favoring potential cyber customers over flesh and blood customers only 10 meters away? That is very foolish. You might buy several drinks plus boom boom, very few cyber customers will spend that much money.I am not familiar with ANY form of online sex either use or production, and not attracted by anything of that nature personally.
However, IF there are people who are willing to pay something for such experience (as there appears to be), it has potential to be dramatically better business than anything physical as it can easily be turned into volume business, dollar or even a cent is big if you can reach volume of wankers by single act.
Movie industry a prime example. Not many actors or producers who only give personal shows for the rich of royals that own Bel Air mansions, but many who make shows for five or ten dollar tickets for millions of people.
Then, whether this means Soi 6 will die is another issue, but certainly the online (volume) market will get served as it is much more attarctive financially IF there is volume of customers.
Who knows, maybe physical commercial sex is only for kings or millionaires in future, just like personal theatre performances.
That's the one. Good job.
You got to agree the girl runs Rings around the normal Soi 6 girl.
I like her.
As I type this the guy is Livestream ING right now.
Very little English. Check him out if you Miss Thailand.If you are asking if she is hotter than the normal Soi 6 girl, my question back is "isn't the grass always greener on the other side?" Take the sidewalk next to Treetown. When they first laid the green turf grass couple of weeks ago, Monkeypaw was headed to Tesco and made a comment to them. I said, this sidewalk puddles up after it rains, and it doesn't drain well. But at least the concrete evaporated the puddles faster because of the heat. The Thai locals that had businesses and bars on the same sidewalk looked at me stupidly. This week it rained heavily. I went to the Buakhao market to pick up some vegetables and saw one of the business owners mopping up the water on the turf. I shouted, "told you so." And she looked very happy to see me.
So the morale of the story and to answer your question is "just because it is green and looks like grass, it's all about what's underneath. " Girls that know how to throw in some contacts to make their eyes bigger, extend eye lashes, and do magic with their makeup are the ones who are victorious when it comes to beauty. Look at some of those Facebook videos with the Asian girls doing make up transformations, before and after. At the Gogo bars, they arch their asses and their backs a certain way while dancing to maximize their assets. They know how to suck in that gut and only let customers view their best angles. The top girls will know how to hide their flaws even during sex.
However, the girl in the video has a cute face, kinda witchy, but I am okay with being the Last Witch Hunter. I don't discriminate. I just penetrate and percolate. Sometimes I have a taste for short hair like the girl in question, but most of the time the Paw prefers longer straight black hair on Asian girls. It looks more natural. It looks more Asian. Nothing beats the Gogo bars when you can inspect that body from head to toe. Long legs, long black hair, slender (no baby damage) with natural perky boobs and a nice ass is what I like the most (see Miss Sleepyhead). If she has a Tom and doesn't bang or get barfined and is a challenge, those are the best.
P. S: Oddly enough 612 is also the code for where the Chauvin trial is taking place and streaming live on the internet. That's the only thing I am checking out because I am still in Pattaya, even after 13 months stranded because of border closure. So there is nothing to miss about Thailand when you are still here. I miss Luby's mac and cheese, is what I miss.
How does this work? Say you see a girl on soi 6 and sit with her. Do you grope a bit? Then take her upstairs? Not grope? Not sit down and have a drink yourself?
My experience was if I sat down with a girl I bought her a drink. Is this what most do or not?
I don't buy drinks at Soi 6, I never did.
Mr Enternational
04-07-21, 17:38
They are favoring potential cyber customers over flesh and blood customers only 10 meters away? That is very foolish. You might buy several drinks plus boom boom, very few cyber customers will spend that much money.But you are letting your western thinking get in the way. When guys have insisted that you can't fuck chicks under whatever amount, I have always called bullshit because the cost of living is low. Look at MP fucking a chick for 1300 that other guys are dying to give 5000 to. This has always been the case and covid has nothing to do with it.
The fact is that these chicks would rather sit in front of a camera for 400 baht than to go upstairs with you for 1000. 400 baht can get them by, although it seems nothing to you. And the guys on the other end of the camera buy them drinks as well, so you have no advantage from that end.
I mean seriously, would you choose to eat an old woman out for $20 versus sitting in front of a cam shooting the shit with your buddies for $8? I would probably choose shooting the shit. It is not only about money.
Mr Enternational
04-07-21, 17:51
How does this work? Say you see a girl on soi 6 and sit with her. Do you grope a bit? Then take her upstairs? Not grope? Not sit down and have a drink yourself?
My experience was if I sat down with a girl I bought her a drink. Is this what most do or not?How ever you want it to work. You can grope without buying drinks. You can fuck without buying drinks. You can buy drinks without groping or fucking. Just however you want to do it.
I think most guys feel guilty if they grope or even have a conversation without buying the girls a drink. Fortunately I have no shame so it has never been a problem for me not to buy any drinks but still converse, grope and/or fuck.
HorseTrader
04-07-21, 18:38
But you are letting your western thinking get in the way....
The fact is that these chicks would rather sit in front of a camera for 400 baht than to go upstairs with you for 1000. 400 baht can get them by, although it seems nothing to you.Yea, you are probably right. My western thinking tells me to do the best job possible when I'm working. Maximize earnings. That doesn't seem to be the thought process for these girls.
Having fun right now is more important than financial security.
Danny Duck
04-07-21, 19:04
Yea, you are probably right. My western thinking tells me to do the best job possible when I'm working. Maximize earnings. That doesn't seem to be the thought process for these girls.
Having fun right now is more important than financial security.Take out top 20% soi 6 girls income.
The avg income for the rest is near Zero. From what I see nothing else makes sense.
Sure, going in front of a video camera is easier for the girls, but how much money will the men spend? I know what I will spend on video, zero. On the other hand, while in kingdom I average 2500-4000 baht per day for girls plus another 5000 baht per day for other things.You are minority. YT have hundreds millions of bored, lonely men who are incredible stupid with their money. What is 5 eur for German, American or Swiss? Nothing. Now multiply it by 1000 x and it may be serious income. Today I was watching livestream and one guy bought for cute girl 8 drinks and bought Ring Bell. Give it time, people still didn't discover these streams, with time popularity will increase, many men will get addicted, income will blow up and many best girls will move to streaming service. This may be birth of 'virtual Pattaya'. Many of you are in disbelief and denial but share market of streaming is million time bigger than monger market and it's easy money with no stigma of sex work. Some Twich girls became rich just by playing games and showing some cleavage. With incoming cryptocurrency transfers stream services will make many of these girls millioners. Enjoy while it last.
Danny Duck
04-07-21, 22:06
If you are asking if she is hotter than the normal Soi 6 girl, my question back is "isn't the grass always greener on the other side?" Take the sidewalk next to Treetown. When they first laid the green turf grass couple of weeks ago, Monkeypaw was headed to Tesco and made a comment to them. I said, this sidewalk puddles up after it rains, and it doesn't drain well. But at least the concrete evaporated the puddles faster because of the heat. The Thai locals that had businesses and bars on the same sidewalk looked at me stupidly. This week it rained heavily. I went to the Buakhao market to pick up some vegetables and saw one of the business owners mopping up the water on the turf. I shouted, "told you so." And she looked very happy to see me.
So the morale of the story and to answer your question is "just because it is green and looks like grass, it's all about what's underneath. " Girls that know how to throw in some contacts to make their eyes bigger, extend eye lashes, and do magic with their makeup are the ones who are victorious when it comes to beauty. Look at some of those Facebook videos with the Asian girls doing make up transformations, before and after. At the Gogo bars, they arch their asses and their backs a certain way while dancing to maximize their assets. They know how to suck in that gut and only let customers view their best angles. The top girls will know how to hide their flaws even during sex.
However, the girl in the video has a cute face, kinda witchy, but I am okay with being the Last Witch Hunter. I don't discriminate. I just penetrate and percolate. Sometimes I have a taste for short hair like the girl in question, but most of the time the Paw prefers longer straight black hair on Asian girls. It looks more natural. It looks more Asian. Nothing beats the Gogo bars when you can inspect that body from head to toe. Long legs, long black hair, slender (no baby damage) with natural perky boobs and a nice ass is what I like the most (see Miss Sleepyhead). If she has a Tom and doesn't bang or get barfined and is a challenge, those are the best..I'm very aware of the wonders of make up. I saw the Nana Plaza Rainbow 4 Super Dooper Star recently without make on her FB page. Boy is she a plain Jane. LOL.
Danny Duck
04-08-21, 04:04
On that channel. Search function, mods bar soi6 . Pick the one hour video taped within the past 2 days.
2 regulars are doing a Karaoke session. Worth. Admission-FREE.
You will quickly see who is comfortable in front on a Camera.
Tuk with Orange hair I'd have a one hour massage with. Seems pleasant enough. Natural looking chest.
Sound quality not good for music feed.
This is big. I waited 6 months for baseball and I'm viewing more livestream from soi 6.
I paid for MLB season package.
Look at this shit guys. Decent looking, young guys trying to get some attention while hoes jump in front on camera for virtual drinks. BTW these streams are public and permanently stored offline for anyone who wish to view it later on YT and you may get recorded, so if some of you value privacy have this in mind, before you enter check if the cam is not streaming.
Explorer8939
04-08-21, 18:10
Bars closed for a minimum of 2 weeks due to COVID-19.
Explorer8939
04-08-21, 18:18
How ever you want it to work. You can grope without buying drinks. You can fuck without buying drinks. You can buy drinks without groping or fucking. Just however you want to do it.
I think most guys feel guilty if they grope or even have a conversation without buying the girls a drink. Fortunately I have no shame so it has never been a problem for me not to buy any drinks but still converse, grope and/or fuck.You can do that once in a bar, sure.
Explorer8939
04-08-21, 18:21
Look at this shit guys. Decent looking, young guys trying to get some attention while hoes jump in front on camera for virtual drinks. BTW these streams are public and permanently stored offline for anyone who wish to view it later on YT and you may get recorded, so if some of you value privacy have this in mind, before you enter check if the cam is not streaming.The number of foreigners is so low, and most foreigners have been in Pattaya for a long time, that the ladies know who is a paying customer, and who is a Cheap Charlie who won't buy drinks.
You can do that once in a bar, sure.I am not much of a bar guy but each time I've been in any bars in soi6 I've never been pushed to buy a drink for any girl.
When I found a girl that I want to settle with I bought her a drink because I decided to do it and I wanted to spend a good time with before taking her upstairs. Some of them were even surprised that I wanted to buy her a drink.
In some bars I was even completely ignored by all the girls.
I guess it has to do with the customer's personality, if the guy is boring and don't pay drinks why would she spend time with him the next time he comes.
Maybe your comment was about customers that don't even take a drink for himself, which I don't know if it's possible as I always take a drink for myself when I take a seat in a bar.
But I've certainly seen guys going straight to the girl they like, taking her upstairs without consuming any drink.
This is about soi6 bars as I very rarely go in other bars in Pattaya.
How does this work? Say you see a girl on soi 6 and sit with her. Do you grope a bit? Then take her upstairs? Not grope? Not sit down and have a drink yourself?
My experience was if I sat down with a girl I bought her a drink. Is this what most do or not?Yesterday what I did is barge on the cluster of girls were standing in front of the camera, pretending to be interested in what was going on. Then I beckoned the girl who had caught my eye to go upstairs. It worked.
Alas, awaiting closure of entertainment venues in Pattaya later today.
Banana Boi
04-09-21, 01:57
But I've certainly seen guys going straight to the girl they like, taking her upstairs without consuming any drink.
This is about soi6 bars as I very rarely go in other bars in Pattaya.This happens a lot in gogo bars. You'll see a horned up Japanese guy who wants to pump 3 or 4 girls in a night walk in to a gogo bar, circle around the stages a few times, point at a girl, girl calls mamasan, and girl is barfined within a minute of him walking in to the bar. No time wasted. No drinks bought.
I am not much of a bar guy but each time I've been in any bars in soi6 I've never been pushed to buy a drink for any girl.
When I found a girl that I want to settle with I bought her a drink because I decided to do it and I wanted to spend a good time with before taking her upstairs. Some of them were even surprised that I wanted to buy her a drink
I feel if spent some time with a girl buying her a drink and talking with affection, definitely you can squeeze GFE from her. My school of thought.
Crocodilexp
04-09-21, 11:12
I feel if spent some time with a girl buying her a drink and talking with affection, definitely you can squeeze GFE from her. My school of thought.I don't think it matters. You're not doing her much of a favor, a drink you're paying 200 baht is worth 50 baht to her, zero novelty value and I bet she's not exactly thirsty either. What's she going to do, refuse a drink because she doesn't like you, and fail to get that commission or fill the quota?
All that a lady drink is good for is maybe evaluating chemistry with the girl up close. Even that is dubious, I had plenty of girls who were nice and enthusiastic in the bar and a flop in the room, or inversely, reserved in the bar, but really friendly and good in the room.
I feel if spent some time with a girl buying her a drink and talking with affection, definitely you can squeeze GFE from her. My school of thought.To get a GFE from a bargirl is not easy. If they are in the business fresh it can happen. But soon enough they get jaded. Most bargirls come from the villages looking money, love, better life. Initially they are sweet, friendly.
Before buying a drink make sure she is willing to go with you if you choose.
I don't think it matters. You're not doing her much of a favor, a drink you're paying 200 baht is worth 50 baht to her, zero novelty value and I bet she's not exactly thirsty either. What's she going to do, refuse a drink because she doesn't like you, and fail to get that commission or fill the quota?
All that a lady drink is good for is maybe evaluating chemistry with the girl up close. Even that is dubious, I had plenty of girls who were nice and enthusiastic in the bar and a flop in the room, or inversely, reserved in the bar, but really friendly and good in the room.Only 50 baht goes to girl? Wow, that's a ripoff. The whole concept of bardrinks would make sense if it would go to girl's pocket then she could be nicer to you, instead it's basically scam to extrude cash from nice guys. I think it's better not to buy lady drink and if girl performed well give her a tip, then you reward girl directly and not bar owner.
Bill Miami
04-09-21, 11:54
I used to post on here 15 - 20 years ago, but I have not been here for a while. I keep reading the partially wrong info to the total BS that isn't even close to being correct being posted here and I can't take it anymore.
So, I am back to set the record straight for all of you sitting at home dreaming about the day you will be able to come to Pattaya.
Bill Miami
04-09-21, 12:04
To get a GFE from a bargirl is not easy. If they are in the business fresh it can happen. But soon enough they get jaded. Most bargirls come from the villages looking money, love, better life. Initially they are sweet, friendly.
Before buying a drink make sure she is willing to go with you if you choose.This is absolutely false, of the 2,000 or so ladies I have been with over the years 100% provide GFE. This guy has NO idea what he is talking about.
Next why buying the girls drinks is an absolute must.
Mr Enternational
04-09-21, 14:11
This is absolutely false, of the 2,000 or so ladies I have been with over the years 100% provide GFE. This guy has NO idea what he is talking about.I am with you on that and I never hear any of my friends complaining about the chicks they go with. I have always said you could just walk up and tell a chick lets go without all of the buying drinks and courting. But I guess different experiences for different people.
You can find a lot of the YT streams by searching for Soi 6 Pattaya (https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=+Soi+6+Pattaya) and then clicking the filter for live. Right now I'm seeing 20 odd streams, many from the Nightwish group and some duplicates, all showing women in various stages of boredom.
I am with you on that and I never hear any of my friends complaining about the chicks they go with. I have always said you could just walk up and tell a chick lets go without all of the buying drinks and courting. But I guess different experiences for different people.It's even easier with some streetwalkers. I don't even need to say "let's go" or anything to them. They're the ones saying that to guys walking by.
That's the way I like it. Easy peasy.
No game whatsoever needed. Just baht.
Danny Duck
04-09-21, 16:47
This is absolutely false, of the 2,000 or so ladies I have been with over the years 100% provide GFE. This guy has NO idea what he is talking about.
Next why buying the girls drinks is an absolute must.I wouldn't say absolutely false. Haha.
About buying drinks to gage Chemistry. You can weed out ones who are absolutely disgusted by your presence.
The rest it's a roll of the Dice.
Odds are not in your Favor.
This is absolutely false, of the 2,000 or so ladies I have been with over the years 100% provide GFE. This guy has NO idea what he is talking about.
Next why buying the girls drinks is an absolute must.You can read this statement many ways. It really depends on your personal experiences and how you define GFE. I don't want the old GFE experience because old girlfriends are too much like having a wife. Sometime the new GFE is not so great either because their still trying to convince you they are "good girls". Me personally, I want the homely fat girlfriend experience but from a beautiful skinny girl. If you ever had sex with a plain looking woman who is lonely and starved for sex you will know what I mean. We used to call then "two baggers" because te only way you can do it is to place a bag over head and one over yours.
Crocodilexp
04-09-21, 20:16
It's even easier with some streetwalkers. I don't even need to say "let's go" or anything to them. They're the ones saying that to guys walking by.
That's the way I like it. Easy peasy.
No game whatsoever needed. Just baht.At some level, I love the Tarzan experience. All you need is to nod, and 15 min later, she's on your dick. Treat them well, of course, but I don't like the overhead of trying to game working girls.
Danny Duck
04-09-21, 21:10
You can read this statement many ways. It really depends on your personal experiences and how you define GFE. I don't want the old GFE experience because old girlfriends are too much like having a wife. Sometime the new GFE is not so great either because their still trying to convince you they are "good girls". Me personally, I want the homely fat girlfriend experience but from a beautiful skinny girl. If you ever had sex with a plain looking woman who is lonely and starved for sex you will know what I mean. We used to call then "two baggers" because te only way you can do it is to place a bag over head and one over yours.In Thailand they call them the 500 baht Special.
HorseTrader
04-09-21, 21:32
This is absolutely false, of the 2,000 or so ladies I have been with over the years 100% provide GFE. This guy has NO idea what he is talking about.
You can read this statement many ways. It really depends on your personal experiences and how you define GFE. I don't want the old GFE experience because old girlfriends are too much like having a wife.BillMiami's definition of GFE must be much different than my definition, or, he has a magic touch with the ladies. My definition of GFE involves lots of kisses, holding each other, chit-chat, teasing, caressing, cuddling, and BB everything. I seldom get that, especially in a first session. If Bill's definition of GFE is simply sex, that happens about 95% of the time. There have been a few times where I've sent a girl away after arriving at my room, typically because of a degraded attitude compared to when we cut a deal.
I do believe in buying 1 or 2 drinks before going to the room. That is time for chit chat to assess if I really want to spend a couple of hours with that particular girl. If she wants to get drunk, she can do that with somebody else.
BillMiami's definition of GFE must be much different than my definition, or, he has a magic touch with the ladies. My definition of GFE involves lots of kisses, holding each other, chit-chat, teasing, caressing, cuddling, and BB everything. I seldom get that, especially in a first session. If Bill's definition of GFE is simply sex, that happens about 95% of the time. There have been a few times where I've sent a girl away after arriving at my room, typically because of a degraded attitude compared to when we cut a deal.
I do believe in buying 1 or 2 drinks before going to the room. That is time for chit chat to assess if I really want to spend a couple of hours with that particular girl. If she wants to get drunk, she can do that with somebody else.As an older guy, waay older, I prefer the KTV experience in China or Cambodia. Get to know the girl, play games, sing a song, dance, have a few drinks, grope a bit, etc. The quickie does nothing for me or the hand job in a massage parlor. That's for the kids who just want to get their rocks off. I have a couple KTV girls that I consider GFE ones and both have their own cars. Will pick me up at the airport, drive to see some attraction, etc. We go to dinner, out to clubs. These I tell when I will arrive and they will show up to welcome me to China properly. Light massage if I want, take off my shoes, get my drink for me, order in if needed as I don't speak much Chinese. I enjoy the GFE even though I know I am paying for it. Never had them count the RMB as they were leaving, just put in their bag whatever I gave them, and yes I am generous but not extravagant.
This is more in line with what I like. I like to play four square and other games for an hour or two and get to know the girl. Then maybe take back to hotel or take a couple nights later. I like the GFE, so I want to get to know them better.
Not on soi 6 though. It's more of a buy them a drink, grope a bit then either take to room or leave.
In phuket I had girls I never barfined but would buy drinks for and play games with often. For 1000 baht I could spend a pleasant couple hours, get a little drunk a the have a good time.
The part I'm bad at is when a girl pulls me into bar and she sits right next to me kind of hanging on, I feel obligated to buy her a drink when I buy mine.
As an older guy, waay older, I prefer the KTV experience in China or Cambodia. Get to know the girl, play games, sing a song, dance, have a few drinks, grope a bit, etc. The quickie does nothing for me or the hand job in a massage parlor. That's for the kids who just want to get their rocks off. I have a couple KTV girls that I consider GFE ones and both have their own cars. Will pick me up at the airport, drive to see some attraction, etc. We go to dinner, out to clubs. These I tell when I will arrive and they will show up to welcome me to China properly. Light massage if I want, take off my shoes, get my drink for me, order in if needed as I don't speak much Chinese. I enjoy the GFE even though I know I am paying for it. Never had them count the RMB as they were leaving, just put in their bag whatever I gave them, and yes I am generous but not extravagant.
BillMiami's definition of GFE must be much different than my definition, or, he has a magic touch with the ladies. My definition of GFE involves lots of kisses, holding each other, chit-chat, teasing, caressing, cuddling, and BB everything.That's pretty close to my definition of a GFE in the P4P world, too. I can't imagine putting up with any "Girlfriend" for more than a single night whose sexual participation and expectations were less than that.
However, regardless what details define a GFE for each of us in a P4P session, we can probably assume the punter touting the term means it was a positive, pleasant, successful sexual session.
That makes it very difficult for me to take recommendations seriously from punters who say things like they've had thousands of P4P sessions over many years and 100% of them were "positive, pleasant sexual successes", never had a bad experience, never had a reason to complain, don't know anyone else who had a bad experience or a reason to complain either and so on.
Oh, it isn't that I don't believe them or that I think they are just being provocative, winging it and making stuff up that sounds good at the moment. I have no reason to suspect they have had anything but very good to great sex (for them, by their standards, of course) with every one of the thousands of P4P ladies they have ever been with over many years, etc.
It's that such assertions render any list of "Do's and Don't's for a successful P4P session" that follow from that punter utterly irrelevant if not silly. By their own doing based on those kind of assertions. How could someone who has never had a bad P4P sexual session possibly know what does or doesn't produce one?
I mean, realistically speaking, for all he or anyone else knows, such a punter has been having just ok sex sessions with every P4P lady he has ever been with and might be shocked to start having truly great ones if only he experimented with doing the opposite of everything he's done and recommended up to now.
I find this emphasis on GFE funny, because speaking for myself, the last thing I want from a sexual relationship is (girl)friendship to be in the way. As soon as I become friends with a woman, she ceases to appear to me as a pure sex object and I go off her. That maybe the reason why I don't like to buy girls drink before we go to the room. The less I come to know a girl, the better the sex with her. Taking a girl along on a beach holiday presents me with a dilemma too: either we have a good time as friends together but the sex goes downhill, or we have great sex because we remain strangers or even half hostile to one another. I have a fucked up brain.
I visited a Real Doll (sexbot) brothel in Dormund (Germany) twice. The technology is not rife regarding adopting positions, but once it is, no more bio-women for me for sure.
I find this emphasis on GFE funny, because speaking for myself, the last thing I want from a sexual relationship is (girl)friendship to be in the way. As soon as I become friends with a woman, she ceases to appear to me as a pure sex object and I go off her. That maybe the reason why I don't like to buy girls drink before we go to the room. The less I come to know a girl, the better the sex with her. Taking a girl along on a beach holiday presents me with a dilemma too: either we have a good time as friends together but the sex goes downhill, or we have great sex because we remain strangers or even half hostile to one another. I have a fucked up brain.
I visited a Real Doll (sexbot) brothel in Dormund (Germany) twice. The technology is not rife regarding adopting positions, but once it is, no more bio-women for me for sure.Lol. I am not interested in a GF "relationship" with a P4P girl either. Just the "Experience" of the kind of sex classically associated with what two people in love as BF+GF would have.
Actually, many P4P girls are the ones all too often pushing for a boyfriend "relationship" with customers they lobby hard to repeat. That is, help them with this or that problem unrelated to getting sex for this amount of time for this amount of money directly.
HorseTrader
04-10-21, 06:06
Lol. I am not interested in a GF "relationship" with a P4P girl either. Just the "Experience" of the kind of sex classically associated with what two people in love as BF+GF would have.Same for me and there is time limit of 2 hours. I haven't done overnight with a hooker for about 3 years. I don't pay girls for sex, I pay them to leave. If I want a relationship (and I do), the selection is from a completely different pool of girls.
This is absolutely false, of the 2,000 or so ladies I have been with over the years 100% provide GFE. This guy has NO idea what he is talking about...You make the statement that 100% of your sessions have been GFE, yet everybody knows that's impossible in the P4 P world, no matter how you define GFE. Then you turn around and state that the monger has no idea what he is talking about. Not sure what to say about that, Mind boggling!
Banana Boi
04-10-21, 07:15
The part I'm bad at is when a girl pulls me into bar and she sits right next to me kind of hanging on, I feel obligated to buy her a drink when I buy mine.
Please try to refrain from doing this. Positive reinforcement encourages them to continue their begging. I have no problem saying no.
Banana Boi
04-10-21, 08:00
Only 50 baht goes to girl? Wow, that's a ripoff. The whole concept of bardrinks would make sense if it would go to girl's pocket then she could be nicer to you, instead it's basically scam to extrude cash from nice guys. I think it's better not to buy lady drink and if girl performed well give her a tip, then you reward girl directly and not bar owner.In most cases it is only 50 baht per drink. The part that you are missing is that girls get a nice bonus if they meet the bars drink minimum per week. It's different for each bar and even among girls in the same bar. One example may be if the girl can get 50 drinks in a week she will earn 10,000 baht. In some bars a barfine may count as 5 or 10 drinks to the count. Many times if the girl is short 2 or 5 drinks they will buy the drinks themselves so they get the 10 k baht.
Tipping is common. It's why guys at gogo bars like Windmill, Electric Blue, and other skank bars will tip the girl 100 baht instead of buying them a drink to stick a finger or tongue in their pussy for a set. One of my favorite girls in 2015/16 was a cute Windmill girl who used to let me do whatever I wanted to her for my entire stay for 200 baht. Great deal.
Bill Miami
04-10-21, 08:36
I am not stopping either as long as you keep talking your BS or out and out made up cr ap I am going to keep calling you out.
But, I have learned something from reading your post which I want to thank you for. Which is, Pattaya is the only place in the world where you DO NOT need money to have an awesome time with the ladies. Who knew?
If that wasn't the case, why would people keep bragging about never buying a girl a drink or not spending enough to get a lady drunk. You surely wouldn't want to get the reputation as a "Cheap Charely" with the ladies, because everybody knows they can't wait till one of those guys walk in.
And if you have lived here long enough which most of seem to assert, then you know very well what kind of memory these ladies have, and it's a lot better than any of ours.
OK, enough comedy, now a little knowledge for the guys that haven't been here yet. Most Thai girls in these bars love having fun as well as getting drunk. And before one of these guys mention it, of course the ladies get a little money every time you buy them a drink. And in most cases, but not all, you get $50 worth of fun and entertainment for a $5 drink. Who wins? I do of course, I wish all my investments brought me a 1000% ROI in a few minutes.
Look, seriously, in most cases, but again, not all you don't want the nicest looking girl in the bar, but the one that likes you the most who also happens to be a little crazy. And if she had been drinking before you got there, all the better.
Which is why buying them a few drinks before taking them upstairs is a MUST. Which is exactly why I always have a blast. While they are sitting with you, it's possible to put them on your lap and see who grinds the best, which ones are grabbing you all over especially in the right spot, or which lets you do pretty much anything you want to them before you make your decision. And if you don't like the first one, just get rid of her and find a couple more and start the whole process all over.
I don't know if you would call my last escapade on Soi 6 this week a GFE or just a GMGFE experience, but since some of you seem to know these definitions so much better than I do, why don't you come up with the correct phrase to title my last afternoon interlude.
I had been to 2 or 3 bars, bought a few girls drinks and had not found what I was looking for. Down near the end of the street near Beach Road on the left hand side they had the cutest little things dressed in stewardess uniforms, of course I had to go in, buy a few drinks to see if I could find a few ladies that I wanted to hang out with.
And I hit a home-run, not only was she sexy as hell, she was all over me as soon as I sat down and got her and her friend some drinks. I didn't even finish my first drink when I said "pay bar and room", and let's go.
After the normal shower routine, I laid on the bed and had one on the left and right of my french kissing each other while I slapped the hell out of both of their asses. The wild one really liked it and I thought to myself, I bet I could do just about anything within reason to this girl.
Next, of course I had to review their oral experience while the other one was practicing her oral technique on my chest and / or french kissing me. Of course they had to reverse their positions so I could give each one of them a proper grade at the end of the session. And that was just the beginning, use your imagination as to what happened for the next couple of hours. If you can think of it, it more than likely happened.
We will let the experts decide rather this was a real GFE, a GMGFE or just a run of the mill encounter.
NEXT POST: How I grope 50 or more women in a couple of hours, and better yet, have them come up to me pulling down their tops and bottoms for me to bless them.
And for all the haters, before you start hating once again, I tell you which bar I am going to and what time I am going to be there for you to come and either confirm what I am saying or call me out for being one more BS'er.
You make the statement that 100% of your sessions have been GFE, yet everybody knows that's impossible in the P4 P world, no matter how you define GFE. Then you turn around and state that the monger has no idea what he is talking about. Not sure what to say about that, Mind boggling!555 now this is getting interesting. Debate of what is the correct definition of GFE. Would need a new separate thread for that as I would expect there is close to as many variations as there is boyfriends and girlfriends. I have had few real GFs, and have to say each of them provided pretty different experience.
My experience is that quite a few of the real GFs I had actually did not provide 'proper' expected GFE in the sex department, recall one (short timed one) that was a total starfish in bed as she did not feel anything but she knew that good GF lets BF fuck (and she did as much as needed), probably no nerves in pussy or something. And recall one long-time (years) GF where the later times prior to splitting were rather unpleasant, no sex, plenty of yakyak and silent treatment etc. Still GFE I guess as she was GF in the real meaning.
And to compensate that, (suprisingly) many of the hookers actually provided very good perceived GFE for and hour or even a night+morning, though far from 100% of them.
Then there are very different expectations from male part as well. Some even like their GF to tie him down, put rubber to asshole and beat with a whip while managing the rubber.
Just define it as 'woman lets man fuck her in at one or more of her holes' and you are getting close to 100% of hit rate among P4 P providers!
Narrow it down with anything (like adding'. Behaving as if she would enjoy the time') or to match with personal expectations for various components, 100% sure the hit rate will start dropping.
better just enjoy fucking and dont worry too much whether it was GFE or not!
The part I'm bad at is when a girl pulls me into bar and she sits right next to me kind of hanging on, I feel obligated to buy her a drink when I buy mine.If she gave you entertainment there is nothing wrong about buying her drinks. But instead of guilt and 'obligation' you should look for 'value'. If she brought value by giving you good time, making you smile, hugging etc. You may reward her with drink if money is not issue for you but buying drinks for nothing, for value not provided, spoils girls as they will expect this from you and other customers and it will spoil experience for everybody. It also makes you look like sucker in girl's eyes, girls don't respect guys who throw money on them for nothing. Make her work for reward and they will love it.
If girl is friendly and gives me good time I always reward her with drinks but not because I feel obligated but because she provided entertainment.
Franciscass
04-10-21, 12:30
You make the statement that 100% of your sessions have been GFE, yet everybody knows that's impossible in the P4 P world, no matter how you define GFE. Then you turn around and state that the monger has no idea what he is talking about. Not sure what to say about that, Mind boggling!He: I had a girlfriend experience yesterday.
She: he he he I had 5 boyfriend experiences yesterday. All I had to do was smile, kiss him, tell him he was very nice and I made an extra 3000 in tips. He he good business this GFE.
Houston Player
04-10-21, 13:42
You make the statement that 100% of your sessions have been GFE, yet everybody knows that's impossible in the P4 P world, no matter how you define GFE. Then you turn around and state that the monger has no idea what he is talking about. Not sure what to say about that, Mind boggling!If the gentleman (Bill Miami) lives here I can believe him. Because now that I've lived here (Bangkok not Pattaya) for 3 years I never have a bad session anymore, or at least so seldom that I can say never. When I used to visit while on Holiday and the first years that I lived here I had my share of so-so sessions, but the last 2 years and especially since Covid-19 and the lack of tourists I cannot remember a bad session. Ever since this was posted I have been trying to remember a bad or mediocre session and I can't remember one.
I think it took me a year to get well known enough in the bars that I frequent and that long to learn how to talk to Thai ladies so that I can achieve this success rate. Thai ladies will do anything that you want and they can be very passionate but you have to learn how to ask or tell them what you want. You can ask anything and can even change their initial response if you can ask without being rude. It's not what you think is being rude it's how she thinks if you're being rude or not. I can now have the same discussions that I tried to have 2 years ago when they said I was rude but now I'm no longer considered rude. I'm not saying that the girl always agrees to my terms but at least we can have the conversation and at the end I say well then we can just be drinking friends and I buy her another drink (if it's one of my regular bars). Most times within a couple of weeks when we're drinking together she tells me that she's ready to go with me now.
The bottom line is that living here makes a world of difference.
You make the statement that 100% of your sessions have been GFE, yet everybody knows that's impossible in the P4 P world, no matter how you define GFE. Then you turn around and state that the monger has no idea what he is talking about. Not sure what to say about that, Mind boggling!The known inconsistency and unpredictability of human behavior, combined with mere probability, means there is no way in hell that somebody with 2,000 encounters with prostitutes received a quality GFE 100% of the time. That's nothing but pure hyperbole! Think about it. Did you get 2,000 perfect GFE's from your "real civilian" girlfriend who you didn't have to ask "how much"? Or how about from your wife LOL! Come on! There are mongers here with deep experience who weren't born yesterday.
Mr Enternational
04-10-21, 16:22
That makes it very difficult for me to take recommendations seriously from punters who say things like they've had thousands of P4P sessions over many years and 100% of them were "positive, pleasant sexual sucesses", never had a bad experience, never had a reason to complain, don't know anyone else who had a bad experience or a reason to complain either and so on.Maybe if someone said ever in life it would be hard to believe. But I have mongered in countless countries and I am not saying that every chick in the world that I have been with has been GFE. There are countries known for GFE and I am pretty much near 100% in those places. Thailand is one. Brazil is another.
I get ragged on in the Domimican thread because I complain about the non-GFE there while most guys that have never mongered in other countries to them it is all supreme. They say why do I continue to go to the country if all I have is complaints. And I am like go somewhere like Brazil or Thailand so you can have something to compare it to and open your eyes to see the raw deal you are continuously getting.
Natty Bumpo is in Brazil right now. Months ago when he was planning the trip, I told him that if he had a bad session there then I would pay for it. Go read his reports in the Rio thread. He seems to be at 100% so far to the tune that he is giving out $20 tips to chicks, while I rarely pay more than $20 there for the entire session.
That makes it very difficult for me to take recommendations seriously from punters who say things like they've had thousands of P4P sessions over many years and 100% of them were "positive, pleasant sexual sucesses", never had a bad experience, never had a reason to complain, don't know anyone else who had a bad experience or a reason to complain either and so on.
I mean, realistically speaking, for all he or anyone else knows, such a punter has been having just ok sex sessions with every P4P lady he has ever been with and might be shocked to start having truly great ones if only he experimented with doing the opposite of everything he's done and recommended up to now.Because those of us who have lived long enough, and there are plenty of us here, we know from direct experience that as a rule life doesn't work that way. That every single interaction that we have with another human being goes 100% exactly the way we want it to. Now, when it comes to prostitution, if you're good at what you do as a monger, then most of your encounters can indeed be quite good by most objective measures. But to sit there and proclaim that out of thousands and thousands of sessions they all have been 100% on point is totally unbelievable. Pure hyperbole. And that view isn't anything about being a "hater". It's an acknowledgement of the realities of life and living, and dealing with other people, including each of our own selves as individuals and as customers.
Explorer8939
04-10-21, 17:25
In terms of good sessions with ladies, Pattaya is certainly in the top 3 destinations, along with Brazil and Russia. Probably the best session I ever had, in terms of work ethic, was in Pattaya, with a lady who was a total pro. When I paid her for Long Time, she would fuck me even if I didn't ask her, she just did it, day time, night time, whenever. The only time a lady refused to stop fucking when I came, until I came again. I almost died.
But, everything is closed now, for 2 weeks+. Very sad.
Explorer8939
04-10-21, 17:27
I don't want GFE. In Real Life, GFE means you have to make your girlfriend happy. That could mean a lot of work. I had a girlfriend who needed 2 hours of fucking to cum. NO fun.
What I want is the 3 minute fuck, so I don't have to worry about the lady. That's what mongering should be about. If I want GFE, I'll get a G.
StudBucket
04-10-21, 18:41
I don't want GFE. In Real Life, GFE means you have to make your girlfriend happy. That could mean a lot of work. I had a girlfriend who needed 2 hours of fucking to cum. NO fun.
What I want is the 3 minute fuck, so I don't have to worry about the lady. That's what mongering should be about. If I want GFE, I'll get a G.Its funny what you said, but a lot women take a long time to cum or don't even cum at all no matter how good of a shag one is!! Hilarious, but true.
Member #4698
04-10-21, 19:04
Natty Bumpo is in Brazil right now. Months ago when he was planning the trip, I told him that if he had a bad session there then I would pay for it. Go read his reports in the Rio thread. He seems to be at 100% so far to the tune that he is giving out $20 tips to chicks, while I rarely pay more than $20 there for the entire session.Mr. E is right. I am having a great time in RJ and that despite a shutdown of all Termas, Prive's and restaurants which just ended yesterday. I went to my 1st RJ massage parlor yesterday. What saved me this past week were the beaches and the Barra VIP call girls. So, yes I am batting 100%, but delving a little closer into the stats you will find that 7 different girls (so far): 2 were "rock my night" outstanding (I repeated with one of these), 2 more were pretty outstanding too, but I have to knock off a few points for the silly cone they had stapled to their chests. (nonetheless I repeated with of those girls last night – ha ha). And three others that satisfied and gave me a respectable session, but didn't really set off any 4th of July firecrackers. It must also be noted that I have not barebacked one Brazilian girl to date in RJ. And it must also be noted that I had a near miss a couple of nights ago when a Barra VIP girl came over and insisted on getting paid before play. I naturally refused to go along that foolishness and she left a little miffed.
My point is this: the RJ girls that I have been with so far have been pretty great. But so are most of the Thai, Indo, and Filipina girls I have been with as well. Brazilian girls are just another flavor and I like this new flavor. It is really tasty. That's all. It will be interesting to see what my stats are at the end of this trip. I am just getting in the groove, Brazil is just opening up again (the bars and massage parlors) and I have 4.5 more weeks down here. Whoopie! I am heading for SP Monday. Looking forward to the big city, but I don't want to leave RJ either. Ha Ha. That is how I feel.
Last point: I originally thought of RJ & SP as nothing more than backup trips (substitute trips) in case LOS continued to remain shut off from the world. But now after only 7 days down here and with a shutdown to boot, I do not feel that way anymore. I now think RJ is a unique world class punting destination. I am really glad I came.
Mr. E, I had the delightful and always beautiful Yasmin (Barra VIP's girl) over a 2nd time last night. You will be proud of me. I only tipped her 50 br!
In terms of good sessions with ladies, Pattaya is certainly in the top 3 destinations, along with Brazil and Russia. Probably the best session I ever had, in terms of work ethic, was in Pattaya, with a lady who was a total pro. When I paid her for Long Time, she would fuck me even if I didn't ask her, she just did it, day time, night time, whenever. The only time a lady refused to stop fucking when I came, until I came again. I almost died.
But, everything is closed now, for 2 weeks+. Very sad.I vouch for Brazil, and I also typically have had very, very good experiences in Germany at the FKKs too. I believe that the top three mongering destinations in the world are Brazil, Germany, and Thailand. That's my order of preference. Other mongers would have it differently. All that said, I love Ruskie girl puss and ass! Thing is, I've had it just about everywhere else but in Russia itself LOL! I've encountered "Rusas" not only in Europe, but also in the Middle East and Asia. Also in Latin America!
Danny Duck
04-10-21, 19:57
We need photos of what a FREE Pattaya girl looks like.
The Free narrative just doesn't make sense.
Similar to the I Want to Pay Higher Taxes meme crazy people claim.
Danny Duck
04-10-21, 20:12
So I've been following that Korean boys livestream. He has 2 girls with him, pretty sure like100%paid.
Lots of eating and drinking.
Looks like he makes a lot of money, lots of paid subs. And quite a few donated money during Livestream.
Last point: I originally thought of RJ & SP as nothing more than backup trips (substitute trips) in case LOS continued to remain shut off from the world. But now after only 7 days down here and with a shutdown to boot, I do not feel that way anymore. I now think RJ is a unique world class punting destination. I am really glad I came.That's what the heck plenty of us have been saying literally for decades! I mean, did you think that all of the field reports and pictures were just some made up, exaggerated bullshit or something? I know a man needs to decide for himself, but my God if you can give it a go, then by all means do so. But don't wait until a once in a century pandemic to take a leap of faith! What would you have done if there had been no COVID leading to the shutdown of the LOS? Never have gone to Brazil to see for yourself even once, when you clearly had the time and means to do so? You're there enjoying it now when the place is only a small showing of what it's capable of. There are plenty of mongers here who have been saying forever that Brazil is a world-class mongering destination, and I've been one of them. There are plenty of other seasoned mongers here, and when they say a destination is top notch, it's time to sit up and listen and accept the "learnings" that are being bestowed upon you gratis! I suppose better late than never. Geesh!
Explorer8939
04-11-21, 02:49
Its funny what you said, but a lot women take a long time to cum or don't even cum at all no matter how good of a shag one is!! Hilarious, but true.Yep. Not even women know why it is so hard for most of them to cum. As opposed to bargirls who "cum" every time they have a customer. And then there was the civvie lady who had an orgasm every 3 minutes. She would cum, stop, cum again, stop. Shampoo, rinse, repeat, until she was too tired to continue. Leaving me somewhat unfulfilled.
Anyway, I am paying for me, not them, so I don't care if they cum or not. If I am not paying, then, yes, out of courtesy I will give them plenty of time until they cum or get too tired to play anymore, and then I go for it.
Explorer8939
04-11-21, 02:52
I vouch for Brazil, and I also typically have had very, very good experiences in Germany at the FKKs too. I believe that the top three mongering destinations in the world are Brazil, Germany, and Thailand. That's my order of preference. Other mongers would have it differently. All that said, I love Ruskie girl puss and ass! Thing is, I've had it just about everywhere else but in Russia itself LOL! I've encountered "Rusas" not only in Europe, but also in the Middle East and Asia. Also in Latin America!/ threadfuck ON.
I spent a lot of time in Russia. The absolute best place for women was in Novosibirsk, Siberia, in December. Cheap sex, women who had no money and nothing to do, it was great. Of course, it was minus 40 degrees outside so just going outside my hotel was an adventure.
/ threadfuck OFF.
...It must also be noted that I have not barebacked one Brazilian girl to date in RJ..Natty, is that because the girls there generally refuse to go bareback when the subject is brought up, because a "go with the flow" approach has never gone there for you in RJ, because you purposely choose not to go bareback with the girls in RJ even when they are perfectly fine with it or because of something else?
I'm pretty sure I would be among the (well, at least) 99% Success Rate Club membership in Thailand if going bareback wasn't an absolute necessity in order for me to engage in penis-vagina sex, having a GFE, PSE or any real fucking experience at all. However, it is.
Its funny what you said, but a lot women take a long time to cum or don't even cum at all no matter how good of a shag one is!! Hilarious, but true.No way will 3 minutes or even 30 minutes make me happy. For me it's all about levels of dick sensitivity which are based on how much sex I am getting at the time. Like everyone, the more I fuck, the longer it takes me to finish. Sometimes I never can no matter how long the session.
An interesting observation of mine is that I have found that with freebies, the girl comes early and multiple times. Not so with P4 P girls, real or imagined.
Happy in the hobby.
Johnie.
Explorer8939
04-11-21, 16:00
Natty, is that because the girls there generally refuse to go bareback when the subject is brought up, because a "go with the flow" approach has never gone there for you in RJ, because you purposely choose not to go bareback with the girls in RJ even when they are perfectly fine with it or because of something else?
I'm pretty sure I would be among the (well, at least) 99% Success Rate Club membership in Thailand if going bareback wasn't an absolute necessity in order for me to engage in penis-vagina sex, having a GFE, PSE or any real fucking experience at all. However, it is./ Beating a dead horse ON.
I have sad news for you concerning ladies in Pattaya. It is very common for ladies to seek Thai men after work, when they have money in their pocket. Pattaya is filled with bars for Thai ladies, some featuring rent boys, others are mixed where ladies go to pick up men for free. The problem is that men at these bar are coming off work, too. Many work at gay bars in Pattaya, which tend to close before 1 am, so now the Thai men working these bars are free to seek women when their bars close and their male customers go home. Yeah, I know, it's shocking. Thai men will let themselves get fucked by farangs for money, even if they are straight.
Just like you, customers of these Thai rent boys, both male and female, often decline condoms. That means that some particularly nasty diseases are shared among the gay customers, the Thai men, and bar girls that go with these Thai men. So, HIV levels in Pattaya are higher than you would want to know about, as well as other diseases that saliva can't kill.
BTW, bargirls will claim that they never go to the rent boy bars, but somehow, those bars are filled with lady customers at 3 am.
/ Beating a dead horse OFF.
Member #4698
04-11-21, 17:40
Natty, is that because the girls there generally refuse to go bareback when the subject is brought up, because a "go with the flow" approach has never gone there for you in RJ, because you purposely choose not to go bareback with the girls in RJ even when they are perfectly fine with it or because of something else?
I'm pretty sure I would be among the (well, at least) 99% Success Rate Club membership in Thailand if going bareback wasn't an absolute necessity in order for me to engage in penis-vagina sex, having a GFE, PSE or any real fucking experience at all. However, it is.ET,
I think we both agree on one thing: there is no comparison between bareback and covered vaginal sex. Our main difference is that you require bareback with all your girls and I do not. This important and critical difference leads us to are different approaches in making the pickup. I am not critical of your approach. You play it straight with the girls and tell them up front what you want. They can accept your proposal or reject it. Up to them My approach gives the girls their option to have covered or uncovered intercourse, but I do expect all my girls to give me friendly, passionate sex and I screen for that very carefully.
So I am down here in Rio and I have been intimate with 8 girls / 3 repeats to date. All I can tell you is I that thus far I am batting 0 out of 8 on barebacking and 7 out of 8 on performing cunnilingus and getting great BBBJ's (and that includes the repeats), so it is not for lack of trying, 555, especially with my 3 repeats.
Last night for example, I had Monique, my favorite over again. The foreplay was great and included, dancing, kissing, deep throating, ect, ect, and it is safe to say that Monique was in good place especially after I went down her and devoured her lovely flower. So, she was ready for the main event. I moved up into position, began kissing her mouth, she responded with her eyes still closed, and I was about to enter the event horizon, the point of entry, when Monique opened her eye, smiled, giggled, moved slightly out of the way, and said "condom". Now being the gentleman that I am, I continued kissing and fondling her while I whispered "why condom" and she just said "because". LOL.
And that was the sum total of our conversation on the subject. Ha Ha! The reason being that I feel that if the girl wants a condom then she should get the condom. So after a while, when I was ready to fuck her, I reached over to the nightstand and gave her a Sagami 002 L. I brought down 4 boxes to them. She put it on me, then got on top and away we went with cowgirl, mish, and lastly sideways from behind. It was all very very good. Now obviously, I like this girl a lot or I wouldn't have asked her back, and of course bareback would have made it even better. But that's the way it went. And that's more or less the way it went my 2 other repeat girls, Deborah and Yasmin, and the others too. Point being I would have done them all bareback, but they all wanted a condom, so that is what they got it. I have no regrets.
But this is all anecdotal information. My sample size is still too small to form any conclusions. Perhaps Cane can tell us what he thinks the percentage of Brazilian working girls performing bareback services to first time customers is. I am still in the investigatory phase of this study.
Danny Duck
04-11-21, 19:06
/ Beating a dead horse ON.
I have sad news for you concerning ladies in Pattaya. It is very common for ladies to seek Thai men after work, when they have money in their pocket. Pattaya is filled with bars for Thai ladies, some featuring rent boys, others are mixed where ladies go to pick up men for free. The problem is that men at these bar are coming off work, too. Many work at gay bars in Pattaya, which tend to close before 1 am, so now the Thai men working these bars are free to seek women when their bars close and their male customers go home. Yeah, I know, it's shocking. Thai men will let themselves get fucked by farangs for money, even if they are straight.
Just like you, customers of these Thai rent boys, both male and female, often decline condoms. That means that some particularly nasty diseases are shared among the gay customers, the Thai men, and bar girls that go with these Thai men. So, HIV levels in Pattaya are higher than you would want to know about, as well as other diseases that saliva can't kill.
BTW, bargirls will claim that they never go to the rent boy bars, but somehow, those bars are filled with lady customers at 3 am.
/ Beating a dead horse OFF.I think it's fine to bring reality here. Some here sound so Sincere yet just not believe able. Old guys pleasuring Thai hookers- I'm not there yet. LOL.
Many girls I get along with tell me I'm Customer.
So Pattaya flooded yesterday. Why would a Taxi driver pick up customers who going to Stink up his car with their wet Filthy shoes?
That Street water looks nasty as the Dickens.
Danny Duck
04-11-21, 20:48
Better than Ozzy Osbourne reality show.
So the 2 attractive Thai girls in Parts are Drunk. More drinking planned at the Girls hotel room. Girls look like they getting Frisky. Korean guy does not approve and leaves. Less than 20 minutes in room. The last 3 hours of his stream was him in his room.
I wonder if Romantic stuff. You know what I mean,. Would get his Channel demobilized. LOL.
P.S. I didn't watch all 8 hours. With fast forward you can get the Basics of what happened.
Korean I do not understand.
ET,
I think we both agree on one thing: there is no comparison between bareback and covered vaginal sex. Our main difference is that you require bareback with all your girls and I do not. This important and critical difference leads us to are different approaches in making the pickup. I am not critical of your approach. You play it straight with the girls and tell them up front what you want. They can accept your proposal or reject it. Up to them My approach gives the girls their option to have covered or uncovered intercourse, but I do expect all my girls to give me friendly, passionate sex and I screen for that very carefully.
So I am down here in Rio and I have been intimate with 8 girls / 3 repeats to date. All I can tell you is I that thus far I am batting 0 out of 8 on barebacking and 7 out of 8 on performing cunnilingus and getting great BBBJ's (and that includes the repeats), so it is not for lack of trying, 555, especially with my 3 repeats.
Last night for example, I had Monique, my favorite over again. The foreplay was great and included, dancing, kissing, deep throating, ect, ect, and it is safe to say that Monique was in good place especially after I went down her and devoured her lovely flower. So, she was ready for the main event. I moved up into position, began kissing her mouth, she responded with her eyes still closed, and I was about to enter the event horizon, the point of entry, when Monique opened her eye, smiled, giggled, moved slightly out of the way, and said "condom". Now being the gentleman that I am, I continued kissing and fondling her while I whispered "why condom" and she just said "because". LOL.
And that was the sum total of our conversation on the subject. Ha Ha! The reason being that I feel that if the girl wants a condom then she should get the condom. So after a while, when I was ready to fuck her, I reached over to the nightstand and gave her a Sagami 002 L. I brought down 4 boxes to them. She put it on me, then got on top and away we went with cowgirl, mish, and lastly sideways from behind. It was all very very good. Now obviously, I like this girl a lot or I wouldn't have asked her back, and of course bareback would have made it even better. But that's the way it went. And that's more or less the way it went my 2 other repeat girls, Deborah and Yasmin, and the others too. Point being I would have done them all bareback, but they all wanted a condom, so that is what they got it. I have no regrets.
But this is all anecdotal information. My sample size is still too small to form any conclusions. Perhaps Cane can tell us what he thinks the percentage of Brazilian working girls performing bareback services to first time customers is. I am still in the investigatory phase of this study.Thanks for the followup info, Natty. For me, that is critical info. I would have stopped at that same point of entry on the girl's objection to bareback with me as well on the rare ocassion that I had not cleared up the bareback or not issue before I took a girl.
However, the difference for me is it would have been a waste of time for me to then reach for a condom even if it were gossamer thin and dripping inside and out with the best high tech lube on the market. Lol. I would have wound up asking for a BBBJ+CIM as a backup. Failing that, I would have had to simply pay her the full agreed upon amount or the going rate, thanked her for her time and bid her farewell.
I know you have a fairly high rate of success in choosing girls who are into you enough to feel comfortable and even enthusiastic about going bareback with you, especially on repeats. So I will add your info and others I have heard over the years to scratch Brazil off my list of "must visit" P4P destinations. I'll pass on ever bothering to take that trip and not regret it for one minute.
Banana Boi
04-12-21, 05:02
BTW, bargirls will claim that they never go to the rent boy bars, but somehow, those bars are filled with lady customers at 3 am.How would you know this?
So, HIV levels in Pattaya are higher than you would want to know about, as well as other diseases that saliva can't kill.
Have any medical studies or even credible sources supporting this claim?
...However, the difference for me is it would have been a waste of time for me to then reach for a condom even if it were gossamer thin and dripping inside and out with the best high tech lube on the market. Lol. I would have wound up asking for a BBBJ+CIM as a backup. Failing that, I would have had to simply pay her the full agreed upon amount or the going rate, thanked her for her time and bid her farewell...ET, I am not sure if you had a chance to monger in Brazil or not. I have, on numerous occasions, mostly in Rio and once in Saō Paulo.
If you have mongered in Brazil, then I have no further comment on your post above. But if you haven't, I would suggest you give it a try. Maybe you would still feel the same way, or maybe you will change your opinion. I am betting that you will have a different view. Sex with a Brazilian WG is a unique experience! And I wish that every monger gets a chance to experience that.
... Sagami 002 L...That got me very interested. Sizing always an issue. This website ended up being extremely helpful. http://condom-reviews.com/.
ET,
there is no comparison between bareback and covered vaginal sex. Our main difference is that you require bareback with all your girls and I do not. This important and critical difference leads us to are different approaches in making the pickup. I am not critical of your approach. Hundred percent agree with your point. I always prefer peace of mind in one night stand. If you know her well can take the heaven.
Cheers.
That got me very interested. Sizing always an issue. This website ended up being extremely helpful. http://condom-reviews.com/.This chart is hardly helpful. Durex manufactures dozens of "different" condoms, but it's 100% marketing and 0% R&D because basically those condoms all the same latex shit. Sizes mean little with latex as latex stretches and thins when you stretch it. Good isn't it? Well hardly, even if you stretch latex to a nano-thickness, it is a crappy insulating material that feels like it was engineered to kill any feeling in the bud.
HorseTrader
04-12-21, 06:56
Good isn't it? Well hardly, even if you stretch latex to a nano-thickness, it is a crappy insulating material that feels like it was engineered to kill any feeling in the bud.This is why I try to get maximum high quality lube inside the condom (silicone lube works best for me). The condom slides on my cock during sex. Much like I fuck the condom and the condom fucks the pussy.
ET, I am not sure if you had a chance to monger in Brazil or not. I have, on numerous occasions, mostly in Rio and once in Saō Paulo.
If you have mongered in Brazil, then I have no further comment on your post above. But if you haven't, I would suggest you give it a try. Maybe you would still feel the same way, or maybe you will change your opinion. I am betting that you will have a different view. Sex with a Brazilian WG is a unique experience! And I wish that every monger gets a chance to experience that.Lefeu, thanks for the encouragement. But the hard, clear, insurmountable issue is condom or no condom. I am sure Brazilian women are beautiful, sexy, wild, have great butts, tits, are very loving, attentive, masterful at this and that, etc.
Believe it or not, I have been with many such women in my life and, guess what, the hard, clear, insurmountable issue with them was condom or no condom.
No, I have never been to Brazil.
However, unless Brazilian women happily give world class BBBJ+CIM to men who can not fuck them with a condom, something I have never heard or read about (maybe I missed it), if I got 3 refusals for BBFS+CIP in a row either upfront before taking a girl or in my bed after arriving in Brazil I would immediately cancel whatever I could of my hotel booking, change my return flight to ASAP, get back to my beloved Bangkok and consider that P4P trip to Brazil to be a colossal waste of my time and money. Guaranteed.
Houston Player
04-12-21, 09:17
This is why I try to get maximum high quality lube inside the condom (silicone lube works best for me). The condom slides on my cock during sex. Much like I fuck the condom and the condom fucks the pussy.You might as well fill that condom with lube and jack off. Save a few Baht, LOL I'm just kidding HT whatever works for each one of us is what it's all about. The important thing is that you found a solution that works for you. I tried the lube inside the condom but at 71 years old it didn't make enough of a difference to matter. I'm not sure if the lube was silicone.
Yesterday a former Soi 6 regular of mine told me before Covid she could make 200 k Baht / month at Soi 6. Not bad. No wonder such girls lend a deaf ear to the fem's calls for them to cease being sex-slaves to foreign men.
In spite of the Sildenafil I find it difficult to have intercourse to completion these days. A possible upgrade would be going bareback but there's a trade-off between barebacking and changing girls. Maybe if I could have my pick from any gogo line-up Thailand would be a satisfying mongering destination and not just a country where I can somehow get laid.
I had planned to take a month off from Pattaya and go to enjoy the beaches on Samui but with a hard lockdown likelier by the day I have given up that plan.
Danny Duck
04-13-21, 09:37
Yesterday a former Soi 6 regular of mine told me before Covid she could make 200 k Baht / month at Soi 6. Not bad. No wonder such girls lend a deaf ear to the fem's calls for them to cease being sex-slaves to foreign men.
In spite of the Sildenafil I find it difficult to have intercourse to completion these days. A possible upgrade would be going bareback but there's a trade-off between barebacking and changing girls. Maybe if I could have my pick from any gogo line-up Thailand would be a satisfying mongering destination and not just a country where I can somehow get laid.
I had planned to take a month off from Pattaya and go to enjoy the beaches on Samui but with a hard lockdown likelier by the day I have given up that plan.Do you believe her? Maybe fat finger mistake and she meant 20,000.
By the numbers.
200,000 is $6,000 a month. That's $200 a day in Soi 6- notorious for Cheap Charles's.
Did you notice she always has men around her?
Did you see her bankbook.
I'm such a Skeptical fellow. LOL.
P.S. Anyone know where I can get Rabbit size condom? Extra extra small size-adking for a friend. Haha. Haha.
HorseTrader
04-13-21, 11:48
I had planned to take a month off from Pattaya and go to enjoy the beaches on Samui but with a hard lockdown likelier by the day I have given up that plan.Probably good idea to wait on Samui. I'm in regular contact with two Samui friends. Only about 1/3 of businesses are even open in the northern part of the island. Lamai has almost nothing open. These reports from about 2 weeks ago.
Samui is my favorite part of Thailand. Even during high season on a good year there are very few hot P4P girls. Except for a few nights I've always found one to make me very happy.
...In spite of the Sildenafil I find it difficult to have intercourse to completion these days.....I know each person has a different experience but I have difficulty nutting if the girl is average looking. If she is very hot I come to fruition easily.
We need photos of what a FREE Pattaya girl looks like.
The Free narrative just doesn't make sense.
Similar to the I Want to Pay Higher Taxes meme crazy people claim.Ask and you shall receive. Former WS Gogo bar girl, who stopped dancing a couple of years ago. Had a sponsor, not named Monkeypaw, who helped her open up an online clothing shop. Now she clears about 150,000 baht a month with her shop. When she is stressed out, she messages Monkepaw for a "hug. " She comes over, not even dolled up, and just in her jammies. A little conversation, then a quick hand job, followed by a condom and sex. There is no kissing, no showering (besides me beforehand), no dick sucking, no pussy licking whatsoever. Once we are done with our 30-45 minutes of hard pounding and fucking, if it's late, she sleeps over. If it's not, she goes back home. I've never paid for anything for her, not a date, not a meal, since we've been fucking. Maybe a cup of coffee, a year or so ago. And that's it. I did once buy her drinks, barfined and banged her over 2 years ago when she was working, but just that once. That's how we initially met. I was mesmerized by that ass. Now all Monkeypaw is to her is a booty call and stress relief. We've been doing this twice every month since the first lockdown last year. Recently, one night, she told me she was bored and wanted to get a dog. I advised her not to because I personally thought, she wasn't capable of taking care of herself, much less a dog. Her place is like a hoarder's paradise, unkept, with stuff everywhere. She ended up getting a 2 month old Samoyed pup. She paraded it everywhere and showed it off like it was a prize. I messaged her that it wasn't a good idea because it came from a pet store and probably wasn't weaned off correctly from the mother. Puppies like that usually are kept away from other dogs until they finish all their vaccination boosters. She said it was fine and ignored me. A week or so later, the puppy was in the hospital and eventually died. I messaged her to see if she was okay. She did not respond. And since then, the girl never replied as if the puppy's death was somehow my fault. Maybe it's saving face. So no more freebies for me. Like I said, she's not the hottest, but at least she was free.
In spite of the Sildenafil I find it difficult to have intercourse to completion these days. A possible upgrade would be going bareback but there's a trade-off between barebacking and changing girls. Maybe if I could have my pick from any gogo line-up Thailand would be a satisfying mongering destination and not just a country where I can somehow get laid...When you say "difficult to have intercourse to completion" do you mean difficulty in getting it up, keeping it up and finishing (cumming) or do you just mean difficulty in finishing?
I have found too much boner drugs for too many days somehow works to prevent me from finishing (cumming). I'll still get a useful erection, but finishing eludes me. It is the only negative side-effect I have ever experienced from taking Sildenafil or Tadalifil. And that only from taking too much of it for too many days, imo.
If I cut back on the size of the dose or take a break from ingesting any for a day or two, all is back to normal by the third day and I can resume taking my usual dosage of whatever I was taking before, currently 100MG Sidegra bought from the pharmacy in Foodland on Sukhumvit Soi 5 in Bangkok.
HorseTrader
04-13-21, 19:27
In spite of the Sildenafil I find it difficult to have intercourse to completion these days.Many years ago I sometimes used sildenafil and I sometimes used nothing. It made the erection stronger, but it also helped prevent finishing too soon. I wouldn't be surprised if sildenafil prevents some men from finishing.
Crocodilexp
04-13-21, 19:38
100MG Sidegra bought from the pharmacy in Foodland on Sukhumvit Soi 5 in Bangkok.100 MG Sildenafil could raise the dead. It might be worth experimenting with dosage. I found that 25 MG (half a 50 MG pill) works best for me, I get enough of a boner to finish (often 2-3 pops), but not so much that I keep going past the point where I care for anything at all, sex included. Minimizes side effects too. More is not always better.
100 MG Sildenafil could raise the dead. It might be worth experimenting with dosage. I found that 25 MG (half a 50 MG pill) works best for me, I get enough of a boner to finish (often 2-3 pops), but not so much that I keep going past the point where I care for anything at all, sex included. Minimizes side effects too. More is not always better.Are you getting your Sildenafil from taking Sidegra, the Thai knock-off version of Viagra, or from genuine Viagra? I would be surprised if the claimed dosage and quality of effective ingredient in each were exactly the same. More likely that the 100 MG claim for the Sidegra tablet is closer to the 50 MG version of original genuine Viagra, if not less.
The Foodland pharmacy's best seller of this brand appears to be the 100 MG Sidregra (only 200 baht for a package of 4) as seems to be the case on the street vendor tables where I'm not sure I have seen the alternate 25 MG version on display very often.
Are you getting your Sildenafil from taking Sidegra, the Thai knock-off version of Viagra, or from genuine Viagra? I would be surprised if the claimed dosage and quality of effective ingredient in each were exactly the same. More likely that the 100 MG claim for the Sidegra tablet is closer to the 50 MG version of original genuine Viagra, if not less.
The Foodland pharmacy's best seller of this brand appears to be the 100 MG Sidregra (only 200 baht for a package of 4) as seems to be the case on the street vendor tables where I'm not sure I have seen the alternate 25 MG version on display very often.I never noticed much difference. Here I use Sidegra (from a pharmacy) or Kamagra (from the Indian sellers). It works alright, I get a stuffy nose etc. I also have some generic sildenafil I brought back from Brazil. In all my mongering life I never noticed any difference between the sildenafil I used from different sources, and believe me, I've sample a shitload of sources. The one I don't use is the jelly for I find the packaging messy and hard to break and I don't see the point of swallowing a dose of concentrated sugar on top of the sildenafil. When I said I didn't finish I mean I didn't cum. No problem when using my own hand right afterwards to "flush out" the sildenafil from my system though. Getting old has much to do with it, but the repetitiveness of sex with Thai girls during this lockdown period may be at fault. I think what I miss is the thrill of first walking down the street (soi 6), then going upstairs with the girl, plus the knowledge that I can interrupt the session with a girl any time, walk the street again and fuck another one before the sildenafil wears out. I also need a shot of caffein just before sex but that's easy to arrange. I fuck 7's here in Thailand, mostly regulars I've known for months. I was fucking 8's in Brazil with more racial variety and more new girls than in Thailand. I also had a high protein diet in Brazil and the climate was less consistently hot. My testosterone tends to drop in very hot climates. Admittedly, I've reached an age when I have to come to terms with the fact that mongering needs to take second place. Second place, but alas not vanish entirely. I would be unhappy in a country with no mongering opportunities whatsoever, and I risk becoming unhappy in a country with little to offer outside mongering opportunities.
I never noticed much difference. Here I use Sidegra (from a pharmacy) or Kamagra (from the Indian sellers). It works alright, I get a stuffy nose etc. I also have some generic sildenafil I brought back from Brazil. In all my mongering life I never noticed any difference between the sildenafil I used from different sources, and believe me, I've sample a shitload of sources...Sure, as long as you are getting the active ingredient in your system it should work. My point was whether or not a 100 MG Sidegra tablet I bought from Foodland on Soi 5 in Bangkok could be accurately compared apples-to-apples to a genuine Pfiser Viagra tablet claiming 100 MG from a USA pharmacy or wherever in terms of potentcy, quality and kick.
I have my doubts.
The other night, I met up with XXL and Little Big Men at Surprise BBQ across from Beer Hub. I only ordered the deep fried onion rings because the Paw doesn't really eat meat. It's a conscience thing, plus they were bland as fuck with no flavor or seasoning at all. Just in case anybody is wondering. The conversation between the three of us somehow bounced to the topic about how cheap food actually is here, if you know where to look, and how to find it. I remember spending 300-1000 baht a meal or more, way back when. Thinking I was getting a bargain. Now I spend a fraction of that, with no quality lost at all. So nothing wrong with going cheap and saving so baht, as long the quality is still there. Since Gogo bars and entertainment venues are closed, Monkeypaw has some time to share some of my recent foodie adventures in Pattaya.
Original price - 230 baht for a large Margherita pizza.
Monkeypaw's price - 65 baht each, 130 baht for 2 and shared it with a couple of girls living in the same condo complex. Nothing better than pizza by the pool with girls, plus free handjob. Thank God the water is chlorinated because when it was all said and done, there was some stringy white goop floating around in the pool and it wasn't the cheese. I wonder if I am a Cheapie Charlie, smart and savvy, or just a smooth criminal?
Ask and you shall receive. Former WS Gogo bar girl, who stopped dancing a couple of years ago. Had a sponsor, not named Monkeypaw, who helped her open up an online clothing shop. Now Memorizing ass it is. She probably blamed you for jinxing her puppy. I wouldn't really call that free sex though. You helped her open a store which she makes a living out of. If I did that I would expect the girl to be grateful and that type of service for her to get herself off as well would be the least I expect.
HorseTrader
04-14-21, 20:05
My point was whether or not a 100 MG Sidegra tablet I bought from Foodland on Soi 5 in Bangkok could be accurately compared apples-to-apples to a genuine Pfiser Viagra tablet claiming 100 MG from a USA pharmacy or wherever in terms of potentcy, quality and kick.I cannot specifically answer your question about the Sidegra, but I can say with confidence that the 2017 vintage Kamagra gel was inconsistent in performance. Some of them seemed to be weak while others packed a wallop. When I got home I used a laboratory scale to individually weigh about 30 gel packs and found big inconsistencies. I put my remaining stash in the trash. I've used many varieties of sildenafil tablets and all performed the same for me (Viagra, generic in USA, generic from Thailand, generic from Tijuana pharmacy).
I've used many varieties of sildenafil tablets and all performed the same for me (Viagra, generic in USA, generic from Thailand, generic from Tijuana pharmacy).Would you say they all performed the same regardless of the claimed MG content? For example, did the 25MG version of one variety work just as fast, produce the same quality of erection and last just as long as, say, the 100MG version of another variety? And did that also happen for different (claimed) MG levels within the same variety or brand?
If so, I suppose there would be no reason to buy anything but the cheapest, lowest claimed MG dosage version on the market.
The (claimed) 100MG Sidegra I get from Foodland for 50 baht per tablet seems to work essentially the same for me all around as the most recent 25MG genuine Viagra tablet a visiting USA friend gave me from a USA pharmacy. I don't recall exactly how much he said it would have cost if he didn't have insurance coverage for it but I do remember it being a lot more than the equivalent of 50 baht. However, I did not get nearly the same results from the 25MG version of Sidegra I bought from the same Foodland pharmacy as I got from either the 25MG Viagra or the 100MG Sidegra.
I have also felt no difference between the Sidegra of the same claimed MG dosage I used to buy from Sukhumvit Road street vendors and the ones I now buy from the Foodland pharmacy. I buy them from Foodland now because they are cheaper there than most street vendors will match or beat.
Where I have occasionally experienced an inability to finish (cum) possibly due to an "overdose" of the drug is when I might have taken a 100MG Sidegra before 12 Noon on a planned afternoon ST that didn't happen for whatever reason but did hook up with a girl much later that night and thought the previous dose had worn off enough to warrant another hit or half of one. Most of the time that doesn't matter and things proceed quite well to a fine finish. But sometimes not.
Would you say they all performed the same regardless of the claimed MG content? For example, did the 25 MG version of one variety work just as fast, produce the same quality of erection and last just as long as the 100 MG version of another variety? And did that also happen for different (claimed) MG levels within the same variety or brand?
.How could 25mg of anything ever have the same effect as 100mg of the same? Someone who told me "you should buy Sildenafil A (100mg) because it is better than Sildenafil B (50mg)" I would call a nitwit.
I always buy 100 MG tablets which I cut and grind to size as I want. I can't synthesize the active ingredients but I take care of the milligrams myself. If they had 500 MG I would buy those. I do the same with antibiotics or any drug I buy in bulk, not only because it comes out cheaper but because I want my stash to appear small when I cross borders. The less conspicuous they are in my luggage the better.
What I thought I could have noticed is that I got a slight headache with the Kamagra tablets and not with Sidegra. This is a more serious matter as it could mean the Kamagras are less pure. But I haven't been popping enough Sidegras to make up my mind about this. Purity is the thing to worry about, not strength.
I cannot specifically answer your question about the Sidegra, but I can say with confidence that the 2017 vintage Kamagra gel was inconsistent in performance. Some of them seemed to be weak while others packed a wallop. When I got home I used a laboratory scale to individually weigh about 30 gel packs and found big inconsistencies. I put my remaining stash in the trash. I've used many varieties of sildenafil tablets and all performed the same for me (Viagra, generic in USA, generic from Thailand, generic from Tijuana pharmacy).
Also, I didn't see the gel acting any faster. There's a tale about it being absorbed sub-lingual rather than further down the digestive system but I never saw any serious paper on that. Besides, depending on how well the pack broke you could retrieve 90% of it or only 60%. Gel packs are just a gimmick.
Memorizing ass it is. She probably blamed you for jinxing her puppy. I wouldn't really call that free sex though. You helped her open a store which she makes a living out of. If I did that I would expect the girl to be grateful and that type of service for her to get herself off as well would be the least I expect."Ask and you shall receive. Former WS Gogo bar girl, who stopped dancing a couple of years ago. Had a sponsor, not named Monkeypaw, who helped her open up an online clothing shop."
Key words in the quote were "not named Monkeypaw. " The only thing I helped her open up is her legs, ass cheeks, and pussy. And the only store was her dimly lit hole as a place to hide my cock. But referring to her ass, many guys like that type of ass and shape. For me, although it's better than most, I still prefer more a bit lift in my asses, rather than sag. And I definitely prefer a bit more rounder versus the upside down heart shape. See pic.
How could 25mg of anything ever have the same effect as 100mg of the same? Someone who told me "you should buy Sildenafil A (100mg) because it is better than Sildenafil B (50mg)" I would call a nitwit..Ah, but that assumes every claimed MG dosage and the quality of active ingredient produced and applied to every knock-off version of these drugs that you and I have taken is true and exactly the same quality regardless of the source region or manufacturer. That seemed to be the assumption made by others here and why I followed up with comments and questions about it.
I don't assume such a thing. I suspect a tablet with a claim of, say, 100MG of this or that from factories in India, China or even Thailand is not likely to really have that much in it and what is in it is probably not as high quality and potent as that from other better regulated and monitored sources. When I pop a 100MG Sidegra tablet I suspect the volume and quality or effectiveness of it is probably about the same as if I popped a 25MG genuine Pfizer Viagra tablet. Feels that way to me anyway.
And that is why I am comfortable with taking 100MG of one while I might only take 25MG of another. I consider the source. IME, it matters.
I have taken knock-off junk claiming to provide 50-100MG of the active ingredient that produced no better result than if I'd taken a sugar pill. Which is what it might have been.
Storage issues? A bad batch? Yes, those factors can alter results as well. And the bad batch issue also pertains to one factory source over another.
I should say the biggest variance in terms of quality vs junk that I have experienced involved Tadalafil (Cialis) products and not Sildenafil (Viagra) products though.
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I should say the biggest variance in terms of quality vs junk that I have experienced involved Tadalafil (Cialis) products and not Sildenafil (Viagra) products though.That must be because Cialis is still a rarer and more expensive product (patent not yet expired I think), therefore more incentive to cheat customers (more fake cocaine than fake meth around).
If Sidegra is weaker than its label that would explain why I got no headache from it. It would also explain why Kamagra is more popular in Thailand.
I bought some knock-off Levitra. It worked but I have no guarantee it was not simply sildenafil since both last nearly as long.
I can't sleep on Cialis (I see sparks in my head). Very strange side-effect.
SinfullyKorean
04-15-21, 08:12
Memorizing ass it is. She probably blamed you for jinxing her puppy. I wouldn't really call that free sex though. You helped her open a store which she makes a living out of. If I did that I would expect the girl to be grateful and that type of service for her to get herself off as well would be the least I expect.It doesn't sound like he helped her financially. Probably moving stuff, organizing, maybe marketing? Something you might do with the hopes of free poon, but not necessarily expecting.
"Ask and you shall receive. Former WS Gogo bar girl, who stopped dancing a couple of years ago. Had a sponsor, not named Monkeypaw, who helped her open up an online clothing shop."
Key words in the quote were "not named Monkeypaw. " The only thing I helped her open up is her legs, ass cheeks, and pussy. And the only store was her dimly lit hole as a place to hide my cock. But referring to her ass, many guys like that type of ass and shape. For me, although it's better than most, I still prefer more a bit lift in my asses, rather than sag. And I definitely prefer a bit more rounder versus the upside down heart shape. See pic.The body's great and underwear looks good too.
Too many girls in Thailand still doesn't understand the importance of wearing sexy underwear.
She ended up getting a 2 month old Samoyed pup. She paraded it everywhere and showed it off like it was a prize. I messaged her that it wasn't a good idea because it came from a pet store and probably wasn't weaned off correctly from the mother. Puppies like that usually are kept away from other dogs until they finish all their vaccination boosters. She said it was fine and ignored me. A week or so later, the puppy was in the hospital and eventually died. I messaged her to see if she was okay. She did not respond. And since then, the girl never replied as if the puppy's death was somehow my fault. Maybe it's saving face. So no more freebies for me. Like I said, she's not the hottest, but at least she was free.Poor dog, it looks big for a puppy. What kind of people can even think of getting such a dog in a country as hot as Thailand?
It reminds me of a kind of condo I was staying in Bangkok where the owner had 2 dogs staying there permanently, one big retriever kind of dog and another small one with a lot of hairs. Each time I went there to pay my room fee the place was really stinking badly, owners didn't look like they were realizing how much the odor was bad. Anyway that Samoyan puppy was very unlucky to be dependent on such a girl.
Danny Duck
04-15-21, 17:51
"Ask and you shall receive. Former WS Gogo bar girl, who stopped dancing a couple of years ago. Had a sponsor, not named Monkeypaw, who helped her open up an online clothing shop."
Key words in the quote were "not named Monkeypaw. " The only thing I helped her open up is her legs, ass cheeks, and pussy. And the only store was her dimly lit hole as a place to hide my cock. But referring to her ass, many guys like that type of ass and shape. For me, although it's better than most, I still prefer more a bit lift in my asses, rather than sag. And I definitely prefer a bit more rounder versus the upside down heart shape. See pic.Best practice is to use Face photo when trying to impress strangers over the internet.
Would anyone like a link to see what a Real 500 baht Thai girl looks like?
HorseTrader
04-16-21, 06:02
Would you say they all performed the same regardless of the claimed MG content? For example, did the 25MG version of one variety work just as fast, produce the same quality of erection and last just as long as, say, the 100MG version of another variety? And did that also happen for different (claimed) MG levels within the same variety or brand?.I've only bought the 100 MG tablets since about 2010, that's when I discovered the price for 25 MG, 50 MG, and 100 MG is about the same. When traveling, I bring a pill cutter. When home, I cut with a razor blade. Generic sildenafil is quite inexpensive in USA and I'm confident it performs the same as Viagra. Next trip I'll bring enough so I don't need to buy any in Thailand.
What I thought I could have noticed is that I got a slight headache with the Kamagra tablets and not with Sidegra. This is a more serious matter as it could mean the Kamagras are less pure. But I haven't been popping enough Sidegras to make up my mind about this. Purity is the thing to worry about, not strength.
Also, I didn't see the gel acting any faster. There's a tale about it being absorbed sub-lingual rather than further down the digestive system but I never saw any serious paper on that. Besides, depending on how well the pack broke you could retrieve 90% of it or only 60%. Gel packs are just a gimmick.The Kamagra gel consistently gave me more headache than any other sildenafil, I also question purity. I agree that the gel is no faster than the tablet. Taking that stuff is not easy: clean the package, cut the package, suck out the gel. I'm sure I can get 90+% out, but I don't know how to get 50% out. I see zero advantage of Kamagra gel over tablets.
HorseTrader
04-16-21, 06:17
I bought some knock-off Levitra. It worked but I have no guarantee it was not simply sildenafil since both last nearly as long.In February 2020 I bought a 4-pack of the largest dosage name brand Levitra sold at a street vendor on Sukhumvit near Soi 11. I tried it on two occasions and I had zero nasty side effects. I also didn't get a decent boner. Both Viagra and Cialis (and generics) work for me, but both have nasty side effects.
Has Levitra been effective for you? Perhaps my Levitra was fake stuff in a knock off box.
Houston Player
04-16-21, 10:01
In February 2020 I bought a 4-pack of the largest dosage name brand Levitra sold at a street vendor on Sukhumvit near Soi 11. I tried it on two occasions and I had zero nasty side effects. I also didn't get a decent boner. Both Viagra and Cialis (and generics) work for me, but both have nasty side effects.
Has Levitra been effective for you? Perhaps my Levitra was fake stuff in a knock off box.You can't buy the real Levitra in Thailand anymore, there is some problem with the manufacturer (Bayer) not exporting to Thailand. Everything you buy on the street is counterfeit but it does work for me. The pills on the street are twice as thick as the real Levitra. The maximum strength Levitra is 20 MG but on the street the package says 100 MG. I buy the bottle of 30 tablets for 600 baht. I cut them in half and its' an adequate dosage unless I'm drunk then it takes a full tablet. When I used to buy brand Levitra I only needed a quarter of a 20 MG tablet.
Couldn't agree with you more, every time I ask a girl to undress always ask to keep her underwear on. Most times fuck her missionary / doggie / cowboy while she is still wearing it, gives me a kick. I just slip my snake from the side. Nothing better than a girl wearing a sexy 'bra and panty'.
The body's great and underwear looks good too.
Too many girls in Thailand still doesn't understand the importance of wearing sexy underwear.
Those buns look really nice and tempting. Nice shape too though I also prefer a little bit of a cup shaped ass cheeks but what really matters is the hole in the bun.
Hehehehe.
"Ask and you shall receive. Former WS Gogo bar girl, who stopped dancing a couple of years ago. Had a sponsor, not named Monkeypaw, who helped her open up an online clothing shop."
Key words in the quote were "not named Monkeypaw. " The only thing I helped her open up is her legs, ass cheeks, and pussy. And the only store was her dimly lit hole as a place to hide my cock. But referring to her ass, many guys like that type of ass and shape. For me, although it's better than most, I still prefer more a bit lift in my asses, rather than sag. And I definitely prefer a bit more rounder versus the upside down heart shape. See pic.
Has Levitra been effective for you? Perhaps my Levitra was fake stuff in a knock off box.No reason Levitra should not work. I tried patented Levitra when it came on the market years ago. I didn't like it as much as Sildenafil because it was weaker and lasted a bit less (3 hours rather than 4-5 hours with Sildenafil). Plus, it was 3 times as expensive. But again, the Levitra I have from Thailand could be plain old Sildenafil couldn't it?
Houston Player
04-16-21, 12:03
No reason Levitra should not work. I tried patented Levitra when it came on the market years ago. I didn't like it as much as Sildenafil because it was weaker and lasted a bit less (3 hours rather than 4-5 hours with Sildenafil). Plus, it was 3 times as expensive. But again, the Levitra I have from Thailand could be plain old Sildenafil couldn't it?This pdf from Bayer may help you decide if the Levitra is Brand or fake.
https://www.bayer.com/sites/default/files/br-levitra-englisch.pdf
This pdf from Bayer may help you decide if the Levitra is Brand or fake.
https://www.bayer.com/sites/default/files/br-levitra-englisch.pdfI never doubted the Levitra I bought was not the Bayer product. I bought it from a street vendor on Beach Road. All the same, it could have been genuine Vardenafil.
I have been using boner pills nearly every single day of late. Not sure whether 100% safe. There is a warning about hearing loss with sildenafil.
The other night, I met up with XXL and Little Big Men at Surprise BBQ across from Beer Hub. I only ordered the deep fried onion rings because the Paw doesn't really eat meat. It's a conscience thing, plus they were bland as fuck with no flavor or seasoning at all. Just in case anybody is wondering. The conversation between the three of us somehow bounced to the topic about how cheap food actually is here, if you know where to look, and how to find it. I remember spending 300-1000 baht a meal or more, way back when. Thinking I was getting a bargain. Now I spend a fraction of that, with no quality lost at all. So nothing wrong with going cheap and saving so baht, as long the quality is still there. Since Gogo bars and entertainment venues are closed, Monkeypaw has some time to share some of my recent foodie adventures in Pattaya.
Original price - 230 baht for a large Margherita pizza.Was strolling around hungry at Soi 6 during dinner time around 6. All the girlie bars where closed because of the mayor's order for entertainment venues to shut down. While I was merrily walking, I saw a slim bar girl dashed across the street to a food vendor car, out of the corner of my eye. It was like a giant black cat making a quick dash. Funny thing was the girl was still dressed in her bar outfit, boobs hanging out and tight ass shorts, as if she was working. I walked by her "closed up" shop and could hear music, some chatter, and giggling. I think they were streaming live again, but with doors shut. She was decent enough looking, so I asked about some fun, promising not to tattle tell to the police that they were working behind closed doors. She told me 1000 for everything including the room. Cheap cheap for me because I agreed. She told cart lady to hold onto the brown soupy porky noodle thing until she came back. The girl brought me indoors and upstairs for a shower and quick fuck and suck. The room was dimly lit in all blue, which you should know by now, is Monkeypaw's favorite color. For the title of Soi 6 Aficionado, who can name this Soi 6 bar from the pics? When she was gargling my jizz from her mouth, and spitting my babies down the sink, I asked her how much she got to keep from that 1000. She said only 600 and asked for a tip. I said "no," I need my money for pizza. I'm so hungry! How convenient, Soi 6, at 6, and for 600. Mark of the beast!
Onwards ho to Slice Pizza nearby! 125 baht for a Bacon Supreme 9 inch (hold the bacon). Buy 1 get 1 Free. Plus 60 baht off voucher So 2 Bacon Supreme 9 inch pizza minus the bacon (my choice) came out to 65 baht for both.
And yes, the Slice Pizza staff looked at me funny, as if I just robbed them when I picked up my order. Here comes the kicker. They must have not been able to read English too well and kept the bacon on. I just carried it away, took a photo, picked off the bacon, fed it to some soi dogs, and ate my pizzas while relaxing on the beach sidewalk. I was munching away and staring at all the sweaty people exercising up, down, up, down. When Monkeypaw was done, satisfied, and full, I made a quick complaint to customer service on the food app about how I was Muslim and had to give away the pizzas because of the bacon. Eventually, the Paw got a 100 baht refund. So the pizzas were free, plus I made a positive 35 baht. What a lucky day! Cheap Charlie? Smart and Savvy? Or Smooth Criminal?
Sorry about the interruption. And Now, Back to Our Regularly Scheduled Programming.
HorseTrader
04-16-21, 18:06
No reason Levitra should not work. I tried patented Levitra when it came on the market years ago. I didn't like it as much as Sildenafil because it was weaker and lasted a bit less (3 hours rather than 4-5 hours with Sildenafil). Plus, it was 3 times as expensive. But again, the Levitra I have from Thailand could be plain old Sildenafil couldn't it?Per my 14 month old memory, the Levitra I bought on Sukhumvit looked exactly the same as the pictures from XXL. It didn't help the erection or give headache so I don't think it was sildenafil. Package looks different than link from Houston Player. I think I bought fake Levitra.
Based on this information and nasty side effects from other meds, I'm going to ask my doctor for a Levitra prescription and I'll fill it at a USA pharmacy.
Thanks for the good information.
I have never seen so many grannie panties as in Thailand.
Couldn't agree with you more, every time I ask a girl to undress always ask to keep her underwear on. Most times fuck her missionary / doggie / cowboy while she is still wearing it, gives me a kick. I just slip my snake from the side. Nothing better than a girl wearing a sexy 'bra and panty'.
Per my 14 month old memory, the Levitra I bought on Sukhumvit looked exactly the same as the pictures from XXL. It didn't help the erection or give headache so I don't think it was sildenafil. Package looks different than link from Houston Player. I think I bought fake Levitra.
Based on this information and nasty side effects from other meds, I'm going to ask my doctor for a Levitra prescription and I'll fill it at a USA pharmacy.
Thanks for the good information.Fresh update. After my post about these Levitras I decided to try one out again today. It worked very well, better than I recollected from previous uses. I may try to buy more but I don't remember if I got it from Bangkok or Pattaya.
Those buns look really nice and tempting. Nice shape too though I also prefer a little bit of a cup shaped ass cheeks but what really matters is the hole in the bun.
Hehehehe.Not sure what cup shape ass do you mean. Inverted V? For the Paw, it's round and a tad of heart, blend.
Crocodilexp
04-17-21, 19:15
When Monkeypaw was done, satisfied, and full, I made a quick complaint to customer service on the food app about how I was Muslim and had to give away the pizzas because of the bacon. Eventually, the Paw got a 100 baht refund.
Really? Is stealing food from restaurants at the time they're barely scraping by something to brag about? I thought this was a monger forum, not a petty thief forum.
Being cheap is fine, I'm frugal too. Stealing is not.
As an aside, is this the same psycho who was at one point bragging about offering girls tens of thousands of baht to do stuff they'd rather not do, and said they wouldn't do? I recall something along those lines. Apologize to mr. Petty Thief if that was someone else.
Really? Is stealing food from restaurants at the time they're barely scraping by something to brag about? I thought this was a monger forum, not a petty thief forum.
Being cheap is fine, I'm frugal too. Stealing is not.
As an aside, is this the same psycho who was at one point bragging about offering girls tens of thousands of baht to do stuff they'd rather not do, and said they wouldn't do? I recall something along those lines. Apologize to mr. Petty Thief if that was someone else.I personally really enjoy reading MonkeyPaw's posts. For one he's actually sharing information on the ground as much as anyone else here is. And his writing style is pretty good too. If you think that's stealing then my god you must be one truly virtuous person. I'll bet you don't sleep with any Thai girls for money because that would be taking advantage of them. But oh wait, obviously you're not forcing them to sleep with you it's their decision so it's fine right? Well by that logic the customer support didn't have to refund MonkeyPaw it was their choice too. Isn't it that simple? And did they not actually mess up his order or did you forget that part? Was the restaurant not the one which decided to offer coupons? Also, how do you know the financials of that particular restaurant to know they're barely scraping by? Or are you one of those people that just lumps groups together? Why don't you just donate all your money if you're such a great believer in equality? How about instead of worrying about MonkeyPaw eating pizza you worry about the billionaires out there that are the biggest thieves of all? Rant over.
I'll be out of quarantine on the 20th, staying in Bangkok for a week, and in Pattaya on the 27th where I already have a condo rented for a month. MonkeyPaw I'd love to meet up at some point and have you teach me your ways.
Really? Is stealing food from restaurants at the time they're barely scraping by something to brag about? I thought this was a monger forum, not a petty thief forum.
Being cheap is fine, I'm frugal too. Stealing is not.
As an aside, is this the same psycho who was at one point bragging about offering girls tens of thousands of baht to do stuff they'd rather not do, and said they wouldn't do? I recall something along those lines. Apologize to mr. Petty Thief if that was someone else.He does not eat meat so he ordered the pizza without bacon. The pizza came with bacon anyway so he complained to the vendor. The vendor gave him a refund. He has not said that he requested a refund or not.
SinfullyKorean
04-17-21, 20:59
Really? Is stealing food from restaurants at the time they're barely scraping by something to brag about? I thought this was a monger forum, not a petty thief forum.
Being cheap is fine, I'm frugal too. Stealing is not.
As an aside, is this the same psycho who was at one point bragging about offering girls tens of thousands of baht to do stuff they'd rather not do, and said they wouldn't do? I recall something along those lines. Apologize to mr. Petty Thief if that was someone else.How's it stealing if THEY'RE the ones that got the order wrong? He specifically said no bacon. To me, it's the other way around: it's robbery if you're charged for something you didn't order. And he didn't order the bacon.
If you're saying it's only 100 baht, and he should just eat the loss since he's well off, that's wrong, too. He can do that if he so chooses. But nobody should be expected to pay for something they didn't order.
Jimmy Boy 99
04-18-21, 00:44
How's it stealing if THEY'RE the ones that got the order wrong? He specifically said no bacon. To me, it's the other way around: it's robbery if you're charged for something you didn't order. And he didn't order the bacon.
If you're saying it's only 100 baht, and he should just eat the loss since he's well off, that's wrong, too. He can do that if he so chooses. But nobody should be expected to pay for something they didn't order.He gave the bacon to the dogs and ate the pizza but lied that he was a Muslim and had to give away the pizzas because they had been contaminated by the bacon and thus couldn't eat them. They got the order wrong but he cheated them out of the 100 baht since he ate the pizzas..
Monger friend, I am not a fan of granny panties. It needs to be slick and sexy.
I have never seen so many grannie panties as in Thailand.
I am a sucker of heart and round shaped ass and a licker of all, let them come in, hehehehehehe.
Not sure what cup shape ass do you mean. Inverted V? For the Paw, it's round and a tad of heart, blend.
SinfullyKorean
04-18-21, 19:20
He gave the bacon to the dogs and ate the pizza but lied that he was a Muslim and had to give away the pizzas because they had been contaminated by the bacon and thus couldn't eat them. They got the order wrong but he cheated them out of the 100 baht since he ate the pizzas..My bad. I missed the part where he actually ate the pizza. If you're going to make a stink about the order, you can't make it after you eat your meal! OP obviously enjoyed the meal enough to finish it.
SinfullyKorean
04-18-21, 19:34
I personally really enjoy reading MonkeyPaw's posts. For one he's actually sharing information on the ground as much as anyone else here is. And his writing style is pretty good too. If you think that's stealing then my god you must be one truly virtuous person. I'll bet you don't sleep with any Thai girls for money because that would be taking advantage of them. But oh wait, obviously you're not forcing them to sleep with you it's their decision so it's fine right? Well by that logic the customer support didn't have to refund MonkeyPaw it was their choice too. Isn't it that simple? And did they not actually mess up his order or did you forget that part? Was the restaurant not the one which decided to offer coupons? Also, how do you know the financials of that particular restaurant to know they're barely scraping by? Or are you one of those people that just lumps groups together? Why don't you just donate all your money if you're such a great believer in equality? How about instead of worrying about MonkeyPaw eating pizza you worry about the billionaires out there that are the biggest thieves of all? Rant over.
I'll be out of quarantine on the 20th, staying in Bangkok for a week, and in Pattaya on the 27th where I already have a condo rented for a month. MonkeyPaw I'd love to meet up at some point and have you teach me your ways.He ate the pizza and lied that he gave it away. That's a scumbag move to cheat a restaurant after paying $2 for two 9 in pizzas. And yes, I call it cheating because he actually ate the pizzas. Then calls himself a smooth criminal!
I don't care how much pussy you're getting. If your idea of smooth is to cheat a restaurant out of $2 after eating your fill, you do not sound like a person I'd enjoy company with. My quality of life will literally be better not knowing such people.
I don't think there's anything wrong with complaining about the order being incorrect. If he just took a picture of it and, sent a complaint WITHOUT lying that he threw it out, and they refunded him, I wouldn't have an issue with that. But that's obviously not the case here.
Mr Enternational
04-18-21, 20:00
When Monkeypaw was done, satisfied, and full, I made a quick complaint to customer service on the food app about how I was Muslim and had to give away the pizzas because of the bacon. Eventually, the Paw got a 100 baht refund. So the pizzas were free, plus I made a positive 35 baht. What a lucky day! Cheap Charlie? Smart and Savvy? Or Smooth Criminal?Cheap Charlie, no. Smart and Savvy, no. Smooth Criminal, no. It was the first thing you said. Customer Service. Funny how everyone except the owner of the pizza shop has a problem with it. The owner could have easily said bring the pizza back and you will get a refund. They did not. To me it seems the owner was saying sorry we fucked the pizza up. The next one will be on us or here is 100 baht. The pizzas would have went in the trash anyway.
A few months ago I ordered some TVs and shit off Amazon. They thought it was fraud so they kept canceling the order. Finally I received my regular order, but it was accompanied by a couple of things from the canceled order. I called them but for some reason there was no record of it. They told me to just keep the stuff. Eventually it showed up on my bill but there was still no record on my Amazon account. (The finance company is different from Amazon.) Amazon told me to still keep the stuff, but they would also refund the money. It was like $360. And they do that kind of shit all of the time. If something is late or shown delivered but not at my house, they give me a refund and say if it ever shows up then just do what you want to with it. Excellent customer service; just like the pizza place.
SinfullyKorean
04-18-21, 20:51
Cheap Charlie, no. Smart and Savvy, no. Smooth Criminal, no. It was the first thing you said. Customer Service. Funny how everyone except the owner of the pizza shop has a problem with it. The owner could have easily said bring the pizza back and you will get a refund. They did not. To me it seems the owner was saying sorry we fucked the pizza up. The next one will be on us or here is 100 baht. The pizzas would have went in the trash anyway.
A few months ago I ordered some TVs and shit off Amazon. They thought it was fraud so they kept canceling the order. Finally I received my regular order, but it was accompanied by a couple of things from the canceled order. I called them but for some reason there was no record of it. They told me to just keep the stuff. Eventually it showed up on my bill but there was still no record on my Amazon account. (The finance company is different from Amazon.) Amazon told me to still keep the stuff, but they would also refund the money. It was like $360. And they do that kind of shit all of the time. If something is late or shown delivered but not at my house, they give me a refund and say if it ever shows up then just do what you want to with it. Excellent customer service; just like the pizza place.Good point, Mr. E. When OP mentioned a refund via the app, I was thinking grub hub or postmates kind of an app where the refund is issued without owner's approval. But if the store itself issued the refund, they're probably acknowledging their mistake. I still think it was a douche move to lie about throwing the pizza away just to get a $2 refund. The result would probably have been the same without lying.
Good point, Mr. E. When OP mentioned a refund via the app, I was thinking grub hub or postmates kind of an app where the refund is issued without owner's approval. But if the store itself issued the refund, they're probably acknowledging their mistake. I still think it was a douche move to lie about throwing the pizza away just to get a $2 refund. The result would probably have been the same without lying.Just say the pizzas had bacon on them, and I asked for no bacon. I have had my orders messed up before. The wrong order or items missing. I contacted the delivery service, and they immediately issued refunds, either for the whole order, or for items that were missing. And I could keep and eat whatever I may have received. No need to lie about it, like you're trying to get one over on them. Douchebag move!
A few months ago I ordered some TVs and shit off Amazon. They thought it was fraud so they kept canceling the order. Finally I received my regular order, but it was accompanied by a couple of things from the canceled order. I called them but for some reason there was no record of it. They told me to just keep the stuff. Eventually it showed up on my bill but there was still no record on my Amazon account. (The finance company is different from Amazon.) Amazon told me to still keep the stuff, but they would also refund the money. It was like $360. And they do that kind of shit all of the time. If something is late or shown delivered but not at my house, they give me a refund and say if it ever shows up then just do what you want to with it. Excellent customer service; just like the pizza place.Most supplier and especially huge operations like Amazon are set up for goods to flow only one way: supplier to buyer. Trying to get a $100 part the other way causes chaos and just isn't worth the effort. They will either wear the loss or just dump it into a returns hopper and 1000 hoppers will be auctioned at the end of the month.
Monger friend, I am not a fan of granny panties. It needs to be slick and sexy.Not sure about that. I love a pleasant surprise.
Many times I've unwrapped jeans and a tee shirt to unveil a bikini model underneath. 😁.
MutantChicken
04-18-21, 22:46
Good point, Mr. E. When OP mentioned a refund via the app, I was thinking grub hub or postmates kind of an app where the refund is issued without owner's approval. But if the store itself issued the refund, they're probably acknowledging their mistake. I still think it was a douche move to lie about throwing the pizza away just to get a $2 refund. The result would probably have been the same without lying.My take on this is unlike many of the posters here MP provides some interesting intel if not the location of his finds but at least there are pics so you can gauge the quality of available women for your own hunts. As to his other claims, I call him a unintended comedian, like how hilarious is someone who initially overpays gogo girls by 50-100%, then claims that he can GET these girls due to him having uber game (now he only needs to pay the going rate), how hilarious is someone who after overpaying for women by hundreds of dollars is now a master manipulator because he managed to game some cheap pizzas worth a few bucks, claims to be special and having VIP status due to being in his 30's but still living on daddies dime (though from recent postings daddy may have cut his allowance).
Overall great entertainment so please give him some slack so he con continue his joking.
Mr Enternational
04-18-21, 23:08
Most supplier and especially huge operations like Amazon are set up for goods to flow only one way: supplier to buyer. Trying to get a $100 part the other way causes chaos and just isn't worth the effort. They will either wear the loss or just dump it into a returns hopper and 1000 hoppers will be auctioned at the end of the month.I send stuff back to them about every week. Likewise I look for things that others have sent back that I can buy at a discounted price.
I send stuff back to them about every week. Likewise I look for things that others have sent back that I can buy at a discounted price.Many people make a job of buying those totes for resale.
SinfullyKorean
04-19-21, 00:45
Most supplier and especially huge operations like Amazon are set up for goods to flow only one way: supplier to buyer. Trying to get a $100 part the other way causes chaos and just isn't worth the effort. They will either wear the loss or just dump it into a returns hopper and 1000 hoppers will be auctioned at the end of the month.Exactly. Amazon's built for scale. I ordered the wrong USB cable once, about $7. I started a return process, stating I ordered the wrong item. They issued a refund and just said to keep the cable.
Not sure about that. I love a pleasant surprise.
Many times I've unwrapped jeans and a tee shirt to unveil a bikini model underneath. 😁.Big difference between jeans / tee shirt and granny panties. And he's probably talking about the unpleasant surprise, the square butts.
My take on this is unlike many of the posters here MP provides some interesting intel if not the location of his finds but at least there are pics so you can gauge the quality of available women for your own hunts. As to his other claims, I call him a unintended comedian, like how hilarious is someone who initially overpays gogo girls by 50-100%, then claims that he can GET these girls due to him having uber game (now he only needs to pay the going rate), how hilarious is someone who after overpaying for women by hundreds of dollars is now a master manipulator because he managed to game some cheap pizzas worth a few bucks, claims to be special and having VIP status due to being in his 30's but still living on daddies dime (though from recent postings daddy may have cut his allowance).
Overall great entertainment so please give him some slack so he con continue his joking.LMAO! That's way too funny!
Banana Boi
04-19-21, 03:06
I send stuff back to them about every week. Likewise I look for things that others have sent back that I can buy at a discounted price.Wow every week. I made 82 Amazon orders in 2020 many of multiple items like the order I made the other day for 8 different items. I have only asked to return 3 items with Amazon 2 of which Amazon told me to just keep the item and they would send me a refund. Both those items were under $15 US. The 3rd item I decided just to eat the loss. Gave it away to my buddy. Too lazy to pack it up and send back.
I do return lots of things I buy at brick and mortar shops though.
(now he only needs to pay the going rate)
Curious what rate you were paying a good looking brand new gogo girl at an A Class gogo bar like Palace, Pin Up, Baccara, etc. pre COVID the night you meet them. I don't think it's that easy paying less than what the bar is asking on a good looking girl's first night/week at a gogo. I personally don't pay barfines but rather meet up with girls on their days off but if I met a hot girl on her first night I doubt I could get a lower price than the going rate.
Engine Driver
04-19-21, 04:21
How's it stealing if THEY'RE the ones that got the order wrong? He specifically said no bacon. To me, it's the other way around: it's robbery if you're charged for something you didn't order. And he didn't order the bacon.
If you're saying it's only 100 baht, and he should just eat the loss since he's well off, that's wrong, too. He can do that if he so chooses. But nobody should be expected to pay for something they didn't order.Think of all the times those sneaky Thais have ripped you off. The bar girls, the tuk-tuk drivers and those street vendors all out to steal from tourists. Monkey Paw is just doing his bit to even the score.
On another note, why does Monkey Paw always refer to himself in third person? Hardly a way to endear himself to fellow mongers. Someone should tell him it makes him look like a tosser.
I personally really enjoy reading MonkeyPaw's posts. For one he's actually sharing information on the ground as much as anyone else here is. And his writing style is pretty good too. If you think that's stealing then my god you must be one truly virtuous person. I'll bet you don't sleep with any Thai girls for money because that would be taking advantage of them. But oh wait, obviously you're not forcing them to sleep with you it's their decision so it's fine right? Well by that logic the customer support didn't have to refund MonkeyPaw it was their choice too. Isn't it that simple? And did they not actually mess up his order or did you forget that part? Was the restaurant not the one which decided to offer coupons? Also, how do you know the financials of that particular restaurant to know they're barely scraping by? Or are you one of those people that just lumps groups together? Why don't you just donate all your money if you're such a great believer in equality? How about instead of worrying about MonkeyPaw eating pizza you worry about the billionaires out there that are the biggest thieves of all? Rant over.
I'll be out of quarantine on the 20th, staying in Bangkok for a week, and in Pattaya on the 27th where I already have a condo rented for a month. MonkeyPaw I'd love to meet up at some point and have you teach me your ways.I think we are still locked down then. But hey if you got the guts, I've got the glory. I've always left an open seat for those who are brave and don't need to hide behind a screen name. So props to guys like Banana Boi, XXL, LittleBigMen, FL Hawk, RacShack, Beavis from back in the days of Nuevo Laredo (when I was just a cherry boy), and the countless others who have took the leap of faith, even Mr. E of all people! Perhaps, I missed the follow up postings where any of them said, we met up, party, chilled and Monkeypaw was a big disappointment.
That's a great one. I also look forward to that and always wish the same when I am stripping them off.
Not sure about that. I love a pleasant surprise.
Many times I've unwrapped jeans and a tee shirt to unveil a bikini model underneath..
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