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Square butts are a big no no for me even though I'll take them any day of the week. What can I say.
Round is perfect for me and most preferred but what matters most in all of them are the '2 love caves'.
Exactly. Amazon's built for scale. I ordered the wrong USB cable once, about $7. I started a return process, stating I ordered the wrong item. They issued a refund and just said to keep the cable.
Big difference between jeans / tee shirt and granny panties. And he's probably talking about the unpleasant surprise, the square butts.
LMAO! That's way too funny!
Think of all the times those sneaky Thais have ripped you off. The bar girls, the tuk-tuk drivers and those street vendors all out to steal from tourists. Monkey Paw is just doing his bit to even the score.
On another note, why does Monkey Paw always refer to himself in third person? Hardly a way to endear himself to fellow mongers. Someone should tell him it makes him look like a tosser.Monkeypaw is the alter ego of me when it comes to hobbying. He is not me, but it allows me to do what I need to do. You are Engine Driver on here, but are you Engine Driver when you are in the company of close family? Or do you take on another persona? When that part of you gets really angry and rages, is that you as well? You see why some members say he is really different in person, but has his moments? Back in the days, there was a sex escort site called "eccie" and it was coed. Imagine if girls or escorts or providers where able to post on this site as well. If you ever want to see how the "Monkeypaw" persona was born and where did all the badassness came from, Google is your friend. Just type in the site and Monkeypaw and enjoy the history lesson. If still confused afterwards, think the movie "Split. " And if still confused after that, there is still an open seat in Pattaya available.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KR-oZ3s-0Jk
"Split".
Square butts are a big no no for me even though I'll take them any day of the week. What can I say.
Round is perfect for me and most preferred but what matters most in all of them are the '2 love caves'.There's nothing worse than a bad case of "long ass ".
No ass is worse. I wish I was back in Thailand.
There's nothing worse than a bad case of "long ass ".
Danny Duck
04-19-21, 17:18
Nothing wrong with being Frugal. And Fair.
I wonder if those who claim to get things on discount just are Skint. Always have been always will be.
It's a mindset.
Scamming Thais? Come on.
I notice Svammers are always Broke. Coincidence or not.
Danny Duck
04-19-21, 18:10
Wow every week. I made 82 Amazon orders in 2020 many of multiple items like the order I made the other day for 8 different items. I have only asked to return 3 items with Amazon 2 of which Amazon told me to just keep the item and they would send me a refund. Both those items were under $15 US. The 3rd item I decided just to eat the loss. Gave it away to my buddy. Too lazy to pack it up and send back.
I do return lots of things I buy at brick and mortar shops though..No discount for you. Maybe a little one OK depends on girl feeling.
Whenever you hear things that sound off there usually a Backstory not being told. Ex. Girl is old fat and toothless. China Town full of these so don't laugh. They do get customers.
Danny Duck
04-19-21, 18:16
I think we are still locked down then. But hey if you got the guts, I've got the glory. I've always left an open seat for those who are brave and don't need to hide behind a screen name. So props to guys like Banana Boi, XXL, LittleBigMen, FL Hawk, RacShack, Beavis from back in the days of Nuevo Laredo (when I was just a cherry boy), and the countless others who have took the leap of faith, even Mr. E of all people! Perhaps, I missed the follow up postings where any of them said, we met up, party, chilled and Monkeypaw was a big disappointment.I missed the posts were they said they love to be your best buds forever. Hahaha.
I always worry when someone writes about themselves in utmost Glorification terms.
I missed many in the music industry saying Van Halen was a darn good guy. LOL.
I send stuff back to them about every week. Likewise I look for things that others have sent back that I can buy at a discounted price.LOL, is that why you send stuff back every week, because you buy stuff that other people have sent back. Hope you've learnt from past mistakes.
Banana Boi
04-20-21, 01:10
Whenever you hear things that sound off there usually a Backstory not being told. Ex. Girl is old fat and toothless. China Town full of these so don't laugh. They do get customers.Where exactly is "China Town" in Pattaya where there are P4P girls? My post was about Pattaya and this is the Pattaya forum so I am assuming your response is about Pattaya.
No discount for you. Maybe a little one OK depends on girl feeling.
Which new top tier gogo girl have you received a discount from? From which gogo bar? It doesn't happen no matter what anyone here tries to claim. At bar beers and maybe Soi 6 but certainly not an new 'A' grade gogo girl from a top tier gogo bar.
LittleBigMan
04-20-21, 02:02
Where exactly is "China Town" in Pattaya where there are P4P girls? My post was about Pattaya and this is the Pattaya forum so I am assuming your response is about Pattaya.
Which new top tier gogo girl have you received a discount from? From which gogo bar? It doesn't happen no matter what anyone here tries to claim. At bar beers and maybe Soi 6 but certainly not an new 'A' grade gogo girl from a top tier gogo bar.Being Chinese, the closes thing to Chinatown is past the Fish Market down on Naklua, if one is familiar with sterotyples old-style Chinese stores you will see just across from the market a few herbal stores that sell tea, etc the walls are lined with those little boxes familiar in many Chinatown store prior to their gentrification. Across the market, behind the 7/11 is the area they hold the Chinese Vegetarian and Moon festival yearly as for pussy nothing standout to buy but I'm sure you can find working girls visiting the events?
I don't know if we are all seeing the same ads on ISG. But isn't the ass just amazing? I call it a checkmate.
Absolutely but then there is also alcohol.
Heheheheheheh.
There's nothing worse than a bad case of "long ass ".
Yes always in the long run, in the short run they will leave everyone else behind. Perfect case of the hare and tortoise.
Nothing wrong with being Frugal. And Fair.
I wonder if those who claim to get things on discount just are Skint. Always have been always will be.
It's a mindset.
Scamming Thais? Come on.
I notice Svammers are always Broke. Coincidence or not.
On another note, why does Monkey Paw always refer to himself in third person? Hardly a way to endear himself to fellow mongers. Someone should tell him it makes him look like a tosser.It is called narcissistic personality disorder; and most commonly found in the likes of actors, athletes, and rock stars.
SL.
Banana Boi
04-20-21, 07:36
It is called narcissistic personality disorder; and most commonly found in the likes of actors, athletes, and rock stars.
The Jimmy!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E2IPTVD1lS0
There's nothing worse than a bad case of "long ass ".Inverted v shape? LOL. I thought it couldn't get worse than sponge Bob square pants until I saw the inverters v shape graphic.
Was strolling around hungry at Soi 6 during dinner time around 6. All the girlie bars where closed because of the mayor's order for entertainment venues to shut down. While I was merrily walking, I saw a slim bar girl dashed across the street to a food vendor car, out of the corner of my eye. It was like a giant black cat making a quick dash. Funny thing was the girl was still dressed in her bar outfit, boobs hanging out and tight ass shorts, as if she was working. I walked by her "closed up" shop and could hear music, some chatter, and giggling. I think they were streaming live again, but with doors shut. She was decent enough looking, so I asked about some fun, promising not to tattle tell to the police that they were working behind closed doors. She told me 1000 for everything including the room. Cheap cheap for me because I agreed. She told cart lady to hold onto the brown soupy porky noodle thing until she came back. The girl brought me indoors and upstairs for a shower and quick fuck and suck. The room was dimly lit in all blue, which you should know by now, is Monkeypaw's favorite color. For the title of Soi 6 Aficionado, who can name this Soi 6 bar from the pics? When she was gargling my jizz from her mouth, and spitting my babies down the sink, I asked her how much she got to keep from that 1000. She said only 600 and asked for a tip. I said "no," I need my money for pizza. I'm so hungry! How convenient, Soi 6, at 6, and for 600. Mark of the beast!.My war with McDonalds. One morning, walked into the McD's at the basement floor of Central Festival in Pattaya for some breakfast. They had a new menu featuring some "cheesy bun" sandwiches. I don't eat meat, so I just ordered the "cheesy egg bun set". When my order was brought to me, all was on the tray was a sandwich, no coffee, no hash brown, nada. I lifted up the paper on the tray, looked under the tray, and still didn't see anything. Monkeypaw looked at the staff lady dumbfounded and asked her "where is the set?" She said I would have to pay extra if I wanted the rest of items. I asked why would McDonald's call this a "set " if its wasn't a "set"? She said, the "set" was the bun, egg, and cheese. I thought that was called a sandwich, I replied. I then grabbed one of those laminated menus and showed her the word "set" is used to describe a combo like in their "filet of fish set" for 159 baht on the menu. It clearly said "set" next the price just like everything else. She said to me that there are no sets that cheap as 39 baht, and that's how I should have known. I said, okay okay, ordered an OJ and paid extra.
Fast forward, a couple of weeks. Normal price filet of fish sandwich is 95 baht, regular fries is 49 baht, combo is 159 baht. I went back to that same McDonald's, ordered from a food delivery app. Hit them with all sorts of coupons and vouchers. 4 (yes four) filet of fish sandwiches and 4 (yes again four) regular fries for 160 baht or 40 baht each combo. The delivery guy picked it up all the food, and dropped it off 10 meters to XXL and yours truly. Monkeypaw was in a sharing kind of mood like always. Because sharing is caring, right? XXL had coffee and I brought some H20. The food was hot, fries crispy, and the McDonald's lounge chairs were comfortable. No quality loss here. And here's another kicker, thank God we both can eat like this and still maintain a BMI at 21. Maybe it's our gift for not eating meat. Afterwards when XXL burned rubber for a nap, Monkeypaw had to drop some serious bombs like Hiroshima and Nagasaki. My condo was at least a 10 minute walk away in the hot ass sun. The public bathrooms in Central Festival are decent. But if you know me, just like a finding a top tier Gogo bar girl. If there is something better, I will find it and make it my own. I headed to the top floor, though the glass doors, up the stairs and found myself at the guest bathrooms for the Hilton. Nice, cool, clean, marbled, quiet, empty with towels, lavender soap, and scented lotion. And this is where the Kraken was released. It's like one night in Bangkok, and now Pattaya is my oyster. Maybe the world is next. My gems are my rewards for the mercy I showed on the McD's staff. Cheap Charlie? Smart and Savvy? Or Smooth Criminal?
P.S. In case anyone is clueless, the phrase "the world is your oyster" means that one can achieve anything you wish in life or go anywhere because one has the opportunity or ability to do so.
A Soi 6 girl (who has a few short vids from her Soi 6 bar on Youtube) is now one of my outcalls regulars. She said yesterday was a good day for her as she won 20 drinks. But some days are not as good, with sometimes only 4 or 5 drinks.
Maybe this online lady drinks nonsense is not so bad as it helps keep those girls in Pattaya (as opposed to their returning to the villages).
Nothing wrong with being Frugal. And Fair.
I wonder if those who claim to get things on discount just are Skint. Always have been always will be.
It's a mindset.
Scamming Thais? Come on.
I notice Svammers are always Broke. Coincidence or not.If scammers are broke, why are the banks rich? Today, I pulled out my weekly entertainment, massage, and pussy stipend from a Krungsi ATM. And guess what? There is a screen where the banks tells you "We converted your home currency for your convenience" as if they are trying to help you. If you accept, the stupid rate is about the same as Western Union's rate. That shit is horrible, about a 1000 baht difference if you select "no." That's 1 short time with a decent hottie now (for some anyways). You can imagine how many people of other nationalities, who aren't fluent in English, get duped. Then after it gave me my money, the card was never returned. I had a Thai girl who was waiting behind me to use the ATM, call customer service to send a technician out. Had to give them the info on my receipt to do so. Lucky me, there was a branch in the mall and all this took like 10 minutes to resolve. This is why I don't like banks. Absolutely no remorse about legally robbing them for over 300 K. They did to sue, but all ended in plaintiff's motion for non-suit. Blessed be the fruit! Under his eye.
MutantChicken
04-20-21, 18:42
These posts of his reminds me of the scams ghetto crack working girl single moms would perpetrate using vouchers and food stamps to game the system. Here is a idea how about doing something as simple as living by your own strength and labour rather than collecting daddies stipend, if you want to impress us. Its equally hilarious to equate his 100 baht food scams to the scams run by MNC to validate his edgy success.
HorseTrader
04-20-21, 21:32
....If you accept, the stupid rate is about the same as Western Union's rate. Agree that ATM default options for the Thai bank to determine exchange rate is a rip off. Recently we had good discussion on better way to use Thai ATM, the winner seemed to be getting a Fidelity or Charles Schwab card where they give good exchange rate and refund all fees on both ends.
Western Union has different rates and terms depending on how fast you need the money moved, where it comes from, and where it goes. Last I checked the Western Union fees were zero with good exchange rate if you did bank account to bank account transfer and allowed about 5 days. Immediate moving money from credit card in USA to cash in Thailand was insanely expensive.
Agree that ATM default options for the Thai bank to determine exchange rate is a rip off. Recently we had good discussion on better way to use Thai ATM, the winner seemed to be getting a Fidelity or Charles Schwab card where they give good exchange rate and refund all fees on both ends.
Western Union has different rates and terms depending on how fast you need the money moved, where it comes from, and where it goes. Last I checked the Western Union fees were zero with good exchange rate if you did bank account to bank account transfer and allowed about 5 days. Immediate moving money from credit card in USA to cash in Thailand was insanely expensive.Anyone frequently visiting here should open local bank account and wire funds to that account and use local ATM card. Transfer either direct or using transferwise that in most cases is the cheapest way to get funds here. Easily one or two ST per month for free vs using credit card!
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Anyone frequently visiting here should open local bank account and wire funds to that account and use local ATM card. Transfer either direct or using transferwise that in most cases is the cheapest way to get funds here. Easily one or two ST per month for free vs using credit card!It is my understanding that it is nearly impossible for a traveler to open a Thai bank account.
It is my understanding that it is nearly impossible for a traveler to open a Thai bank account.Well, have to admit it is a while since I opened mine, but was on 30 day waiver as traveler when I did. Just got the residence paper from immigration (which is easy).
I'm pretty sure some branches will do still (BKK bank on 2nd road near WS and BKK bank on Jomtien 2nd road on top of Soi 5 used to be OK at least).
If not use agents like Mots or Tik Tok sure they can make it happen for a small fee...almost anything here is...
Explorer8939
04-21-21, 20:08
It is my understanding that it is nearly impossible for a traveler to open a Thai bank account.I opened a Thai bank account while on visa exempt status.
LittleBigMan
04-22-21, 13:46
Absolutely agree. Guys need to weed out who is credible and who is not on here. Lots of very active handles on here pretending they know stuff when they haven't even been to Thailand or made a 1 week visit years ago.
There should be a private section on this forum where only members who have met in person can access. Members also need to be present in Bangkok or Pattaya and active in the scene (ie. able to write current bar and girl reviews).
You clearly don't know me then!There you have it BB? Today what you have is a lot of keyboard cowards as they term them. It is easier to criticize behind the keyboard easier for some to talk behind their backs treat them like an enemy but lack the fortitude to do it straight out!
What kills me as you noted been told in the past by others some posters aren't even real or even been in Thailand if true that is really pathetic in my opinion just degrades the website credibility and there is just no justifiable reason for doing it!
Explorer8939
04-22-21, 17:59
I have left Thailand to get vaccinated but will return soon.
Given the closed bars and massage shops, what are my options for fun?
Anyone frequently visiting here should open local bank account and wire funds to that account and use local ATM card. Transfer either direct or using transferwise that in most cases is the cheapest way to get funds here. Easily one or two ST per month for free vs using credit card!If y'all haven't heard of it there's this which is what I have: Schwab Bank High Yield Investor Checking® account (Google it).
You get a debit card which has 0% foreign transaction fees (most are at least 1%) and better yet you get ATM fees refunded. So if there an access fee of say 200 baht for using the ATM you get that money refunded to you by Schwab.
LittleBigMan
04-23-21, 02:13
When it comes to ATM, although I live here and have a few Thai Bank accounts my main source of Baht comes each month from the ATM I've been doing this for as long as I can remember. In my own simple way, I have a number of Credit Cards, Debit Cards from different institutions that are interlinked so if one goes down I have a backup. In 15 plus years never have had a card sucked up but did have a problem years back with Aeon when the machine didn't dispense money but took it out of my account. A simple call to my institution back home was placed back an audit requested to Aeon month later resolved. I was also shorted once by a Bangkok Bank ATM without going into details they lied one of the reasons I will only do so much business with any Thai Bank.
Years ago I did research out of interest I went throughout Pattaya using different Thai bank ATM'S checking their rates from local and tourist locations sadly although the same bank there is a slight difference in the exchange rate if every baht makes a difference in the end I make it a point although there are only two locations here in Pattaya to mainly use Aeon the user fee is 150 baht compared to 220 and most of all no matter what card is used they don't put in their own lower rate as the other Thai Banks.
Cards are different, as noted Fidelity, Charles Schwab which I also have and I think another top of my head Citi-Bank return all fees to you end of the month. These cards for example like my other Wells Fargo when used on a Thai Bank the lower exchange rate request being asked it goes straight to the Internation rate but remember after requesting your money the screen shows a breakdown of the rate most likely will be 1% lower do not push YES to continue push NO it will revert back to the International rate. Sadly my Credit Union Debit card whenever I use it on a Thai Bank ATM I get this message.
A few years back needing to wire large amounts from the USA I also did research, in the end, settle on Transferwise which is called Wise now, all the data I got showed Wise gave a much higher rate to offset any of their fees so I sign up and gave it a try every transaction was quick and fast once you get everything set up. So if you live here or visit long periods at a time and can establish a local account you should consider this method as I have been doing for a year to cut the expense of ATM fees regardless if you are getting it free.
I get my pension money S. S. Placed in two different accounts Charles Schwab and my Credit Union I've been consolidating deposits from my other accounts to Charles Schwab. Prior I was doing two withdraws a month from my Credit Union the cost was in the range totalling 20.00 USD. Based on the average exchange rate two draws for $1000 USD max 30,000 baht. Using Wise I do a transfer once a month to my Thai bank account the fee I pay for $1000 (example) is just under $10.00 with the better exchange rate given by Wise compare to any ATM I get an average of 1000 B for every $1000 USD, although not much in USD that is $30.00.
Food for thought?
Explorer8939
04-23-21, 02:29
Eyeglass shops. Grocery stores. Office managers.
The usual places where most of us go to get Hot Free girls.Okay. Let me try again: there are plenty of ladies hanging around Soi Buakhow at night, are there short time hotels in the Soi Lengkee / Diana area?
I opened a bank account with Bangkok Bank on 2nd road (opposite Soi 6) in 2017 while on a visa waiver. Provided I transfer substantial amounts at a time (like 10 k euros), SWIFT transfers from Europe are not expensive. This is one thing I like about Thailand. It's not just the overheads that are low, the exchange rate is also OK, not some fancy scamming exchange rate like banks in South America hit you with.
If I were to name one thing that I would regret about Thailand if I settled elsewhere, that would be it: easy access to my money.
Mr Enternational
04-23-21, 04:07
Okay. Let me try again: there are plenty of ladies hanging around Soi Buakhow at night, are there short time hotels in the Soi Lengkee / Diana area?Yes. There are.
Explorer8939
04-23-21, 04:20
Yes. There are.Great, thanks. The ladies will know where they are.
I opened a bank account with Bangkok Bank on 2nd road (opposite Soi 6) in 2017 while on a visa waiver. Provided I transfer substantial amounts at a time (like 10 k euros), SWIFT transfers from Europe are not expensive. This is one thing I like about Thailand. It's not just the overheads that are low, the exchange rate is also OK, not some fancy scamming exchange rate like banks in South America hit you with.
If I were to name one thing that I would regret about Thailand if I settled elsewhere, that would be it: easy access to my money.Once you mentioned that branch, also recall someone saying it being farang friendly in addition to the couple of others I know. Sure there are others, in other cities too. If problem, might help if tell you moving here and buying a house and need to transfer 15 M baht for that purpose. Sorry need to go to some other bank if you can not...everything here is driven by money, not only pussy...
Re transfers, Transferwise (Wise they call themselves now.) is even cheaper, and the fee is effectively a percentage of the amount and pretty much same regardless of the amount, so no need to send a lot at a time and still low cost. If big amount, still cheaper than SWIFT transfer as the rate they use is better than banks use for SWIFT receptions. I was using SWIFT transfers before, but since I learned about Transferwise, not after that.
Typically next day in BKK bank account here when send from my bank in Europe so easy to manage in real time online.
So really is much better to open an account if frequent visitor, esp if you dont have one of those US fee-waiving cards. No worries about credit card fraud either as can use local ATM / debit card for all payments.
Online banking I think still requires one year visa (I think, not sure, but was so when I opened my acct), but that is not necessary.
LittleBigMan
04-23-21, 15:25
Okay. Let me try again: there are plenty of ladies hanging around Soi Buakhow at night, are there short time hotels in the Soi Lengkee / Diana area?There are plenty in the area the ladies will know but let them know unless it is what you like a shithole! It has been a long long time but once told a Beach Road girl went to a place S / H just off Beach Road Soi 13 something I think the one where the Starbucks is on the corner? It was cheap something like 150 baht? The towels were basically used newspapers.
On Soi Baukhao, just outside the LK Metro next to the closed Climax outdoor bar or few doors down is Jasmine Villa use it a few time years back not sure what the cost now. If you got a motorbike many use the Love Inn just off 3rd Road or Viva up the road from the Big see extra on Klang.
I have left Thailand to get vaccinated but will return soon.
Given the closed bars and massage shops, what are my options for fun?Costa Rica and Panama are open, albeit with their own restrictions.
Mr Enternational
04-24-21, 14:49
Whenever you hear things that sound off there usually a Backstory not being told. Ex. Girl is old fat and toothless. China Town full of these so don't laugh. They do get customers.
Where exactly is "China Town" in Pattaya where there are P4P girls? My post was about Pattaya and this is the Pattaya forum so I am assuming your response is about Pattaya.
Being Chinese, the closes thing to Chinatown is past the Fish Market down on Naklua, No idea if this is Chinatown, but it is Naklua. I do not know if the chicks are fat and toothless, but they are definitely not cheap.
"Pattaya's police searched an area of the city in Naklua after reports that more than 50 women were selling themselves outside".
https://forum.thaivisa.com/topic/1214868-police-carry-out-raid-in-area-of-pattaya-after-reports-of-prostitution-find-nothing/?utm_source=newsletter-20210424-1246&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=news
"On both sides of the road in front of ten closed lounges were groups of women in skimpy clothing that amounted to more than 50 individuals in total. In a blurred out video the reporter said he was visiting and inquired about prices. He was told that it was 1,200 for short time on the premises and 1,350 off site with a better room. All night would set him back 3,500 to 4,000 baht. There was no shortage of customers. There was a steady stream of cars and motorcycles circling and stopping. ".
https://forum.thaivisa.com/topic/1214784-prostitution-continues-in-pattaya-despite-covid-19-restrictions/
Explorer8939
04-24-21, 17:27
No idea if this is Chinatown, but it is Naklua. I do not know if the chicks are fat and toothless, but they are definitely not cheap.
"Pattaya's police searched an area of the city in Naklua after reports that more than 50 women were selling themselves outside".
https://forum.thaivisa.com/topic/1214868-police-carry-out-raid-in-area-of-pattaya-after-reports-of-prostitution-find-nothing/?utm_source=newsletter-20210424-1246&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=news
"On both sides of the road in front of ten closed lounges were groups of women in skimpy clothing that amounted to more than 50 individuals in total. In a blurred out video the reporter said he was visiting and inquired about prices. He was told that it was 1,200 for short time on the premises and 1,350 off site with a better room. All night would set him back 3,500 to 4,000 baht. There was no shortage of customers. There was a steady stream of cars and motorcycles circling and stopping. ".
https://forum.thaivisa.com/topic/1214784-prostitution-continues-in-pattaya-despite-covid-19-restrictions/The news report was about Soi Esso, an area up in Moo 10 off Sukhumvit. It's pretty much a Thai only area, with bars frequented by Thai men. The police showed up a few days later and found nothing.
Chinatown in Pattaya is just south of Terminal 21.
Explorer8939
04-24-21, 17:30
There are plenty in the area the ladies will know but let them know unless it is what you like a shithole! It has been a long long time but once told a Beach Road girl went to a place S / H just off Beach Road Soi 13 something I think the one where the Starbucks is on the corner? It was cheap something like 150 baht? The towels were basically used newspapers.
On Soi Baukhao, just outside the LK Metro next to the closed Climax outdoor bar or few doors down is Jasmine Villa use it a few time years back not sure what the cost now. If you got a motorbike many use the Love Inn just off 3rd Road or Viva up the road from the Big see extra on Klang.I will never ride a motorcycle in Thailand, so my options are within close walking distance of Soi Buakhow. Thanks for the tip about Jasmine Villa. I have used a short time hotel in Pattaya, except for Full Love Inn, which I walked to from Soi Chaiyapoon. It was underwhelming, at least the rooms I was assigned to. Maybe the nice rooms are given to overnight guests.
Danny Duck
04-24-21, 18:13
Foxy bar Soi 6 . Girl name nice. Very acceptable.
You tube.
You will be happy man. LOL.
Danny Duck
04-24-21, 21:52
The news report was about Soi Esso, an area up in Moo 10 off Sukhumvit. It's pretty much a Thai only area, with bars frequented by Thai men. The police showed up a few days later and found nothing.
Chinatown in Pattaya is just south of Terminal 21.Not long ago a sweep of Pattaya by governmental official s found no evidence of Prostitution.
This just confirms No prostitutional activity going on in Pattaya. Hahaha.
LittleBigMan
04-25-21, 08:33
No idea if this is Chinatown, but it is Naklua. I do not know if the chicks are fat and toothless, but they are definitely not cheap.
"Pattaya's police searched an area of the city in Naklua after reports that more than 50 women were selling themselves outside".
https://forum.thaivisa.com/topic/1214868-police-carry-out-raid-in-area-of-pattaya-after-reports-of-prostitution-find-nothing/?utm_source=newsletter-20210424-1246&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=news
"On both sides of the road in front of ten closed lounges were groups of women in skimpy clothing that amounted to more than 50 individuals in total. In a blurred out video the reporter said he was visiting and inquired about prices. He was told that it was 1,200 for short time on the premises and 1,350 off site with a better room. All night would set him back 3,500 to 4,000 baht. There was no shortage of customers. There was a steady stream of cars and motorcycles circling and stopping. ".
https://forum.thaivisa.com/topic/1214784-prostitution-continues-in-pattaya-despite-covid-19-restrictions/I know this area well, it isn't Chinatown whatsoever! It is just off Sukhumvit north as you pass Bangkok Pattaya Hospital is an ESSO Gas Station prior to the entrance of the station and after there is a Soi behind is the area majority of the places are behind that station. I travel down this area frequently to take a shortcut to Naklau Market area during the day but it started to go dead close to 10 years now so whenever cruising at night it was no longer a destination.
It isn't a place a tourist would ever venture unless you go with someone I've only seen one farang in my visit and it just happens to be a friend, not a surprise he lives here and spoke good Thai. There were then lots of young local girls sitting outside but in many of the places you couldn't really sit outside majority wanted you to go inside the places were dark and seedy with a black glass door in front. So the thought was for a tourist alone will I get drugged or something many places had young kids sitting around look out and enforcements.
I hear from locals it was cheap but even for me I could never get one down to 600 baht I never partaken my brother and cousins have while I waited and sweet talk with the other girl outside. It is really hit and miss because then the girls were young many could barely speak English only " how are you " I remember the first time both took a girl from a place they took them down to another building where the rooms were like 105 baht girl wanted 800 while I sat there chatting with another girl a thought came over me I looked at my watch said to myself they will be back in a few minutes and surely with 15 minutes my brother came out shaking his head my cousin a bit later. Both last never again they would rather go to Soi 6, then Soi 6 was only 600 baht / 300 for a room. The room they both got said it was trashed, dark, towels given was like a used dirty rag. Both said they couldn't even get it up since laying on the bed they felt if something was crawling on them the added distraction the girl didn't even understand how to get a proper BJ and wouldn't unless a condom was used Oh one had to also buy a condom for 25 baht!
In spite of what I just wrote, I've had some Asian friends who live here visit often and found some gems that became regulars but they went to their places. Then on Friday and Saturday nights after 10 pm you see the young kids and older Thais cruise through the Soi, the place was packed with girls then! Many if you had the money didn't use the rooms but took the girl to a nearby place called 99, basically a short time motel you drive by the front the placed was packed with cars. Years later when my son got older we happen to cut through the Sois during the day he was staring out the window I ask him you know what the area he said yes and smiled he and his friends had cruized there at night to see what the talk was about. I try to ask him what the charge was but he said he never knew never ask because he didn't have a baht between him and his buddy. He laughed girls saw him called him Mr. Mgoo because he had thick glasses one girl told him would do him for free because she thought he was Korean and a virgin.
If they didn't find anything it is because a local complaint and their source at the Banglamung Station tip everyone off. I will put it on my list when I next cruise at night and will report back.
Eequalsmc2
04-26-21, 05:44
I know this area well, it isn't Chinatown whatsoever! It is just off Sukhumvit north as you pass Bangkok Pattaya Hospital is an ESSO Gas Station prior to the entrance of the station and after there is a Soi behind is the area majority of the places are behind that station. I travel down this area frequently to take a shortcut to Naklau Market area during the day but it started to go dead close to 10 years now so whenever cruising at night it was no longer a destination.
It isn't a place a tourist would ever venture unless you go with someone I've only seen one farang in my visit and it just happens to be a friend, not a surprise he lives here and spoke good Thai. There were then lots of young local girls sitting outside but in many of the places you couldn't really sit outside majority wanted you to go inside the places were dark and seedy with a black glass door in front. So the thought was for a tourist alone will I get drugged or something many places had young kids sitting around look out and enforcements.
I agree with this, I was there awhile ago. I recall I paid 500-600, then there were plenty of farm fresh girls but service was lacking no BJ. At the time I recalled it was similar to soi 6 pricing so didn't see the benefit of making my way there instead of soi 6 overall. Recently in 2018, I made a visit thinking that the local scene didn't experience the inflation of the falang scene, I went there around 7 pm a bit early I know. The girls were very average looking and I was quoted 1200-1500, I didn't partake.
I am going to post this here and in the Bangkok page. I am curious, Where is it best to travel to when tourism comes back? Bangkok or Pattaya?
If things return to normal. Pattaya is better then Bangkok. People who know both might disagree but you don't know both. Pattaya is easy. It's small enough to get around easy. Places are easy to find. Baht buses are cheap and easy. You can walk from walking street to soi six and find aggressive sex workers or stop on soi 7 and 8 for a bit more laid back but still a bit aggressive. Or you can find casual beer bars to just sit and drink but still fuck the girls there if you want.
Bangkok has all that but it's a big city with the big city feel. You might like that better but if it's just a sex holiday and first time pattaya wins hands down.
You're asking for opinion though and that's mine others may differ.
I am going to post this here and in the Bangkok page. I am curious, Where is it best to travel to when tourism comes back? Bangkok or Pattaya?
I am going to post this here and in the Bangkok page. I am curious, Where is it best to travel to when tourism comes back? Bangkok or Pattaya?It depends on what you want to do. If a purely sex vacation is what you want, then I would agree with Horatio that Pattaya is the top pick. But if you want to throw in some more "normal" touristy things, then I would say Bangkok. For anyone who is going to Thailand for the very first time, I always recommend spending some time in Bangkok to see the sights and sounds and learn something of the country's history and culture. I mean, why pick anyway? Just do both Bangkok and Pattaya! I will add that I also enjoyed the laid back pace of Phuket which has its own scene. I met the hottest Thai chick of my entire trip there (imagine a Thai Jennifer Anniston)!
Ask and you shall receive. Former WS Gogo bar girl, who stopped dancing a couple of years ago. Had a sponsor, not named Monkeypaw, who helped her open up an online clothing shop. Now she clears about 150,000 baht a month with her shop. When she is stressed out, she messages Monkepaw for a "hug. " She comes over, not even dolled up, and just in her jammies. A little conversation, then a quick hand job, followed by a condom and sex. There is no kissing, no showering (besides me beforehand), no dick sucking, no pussy licking whatsoever. Once we are done with our 30-45 minutes of hard pounding and fucking, if it's late, she sleeps over. If it's not, she goes back home. I've never paid for anything for her, not a date, not a meal, since we've been fucking. Maybe a cup of coffee, a year or so ago. And that's it. I did once buy her drinks, barfined and banged her over 2 years ago when she was working, but just that once. That's how we initially met. I was mesmerized by that ass. Now all Monkeypaw is to her is a booty call and stress relief. We've been doing this twice every month since the first lockdown last year. Recently, one night, she told me she was bored and wanted to get a dog. I advised her not to because I personally thought, she wasn't capable of taking care of herself, much less a dog. Her place is like a hoarder's paradise, unkept, with stuff everywhere. She ended up getting a 2 month old Samoyed pup. She paraded it everywhere and showed it off like it was a prize. I messaged her that it wasn't a good idea because it came from a pet store and probably wasn't weaned off correctly from the mother. Puppies like that usually are kept away from other dogs until they finish all their vaccination boosters. She said it was fine and ignored me. A week or so later, the puppy was in the hospital and eventually died. I messaged her to see if she was okay. She did not respond. And since then, the girl never replied as if the puppy's death was somehow my fault. Maybe it's saving face. So no more freebies for me. Like I said, she's not the hottest, but at least she was free.When the Paw says your place is a "hoarder's paradise," you have issues and not capable of taking care of yourself, much less a Samoyed pup. No joke. My freebie just hit me up for another "hug," "(R&R)" '"stress relief" or whatever you want to call it. I saw her new haircut and it was a definite "PASS. " The haircut made her less pretty than before. Not that she was even that pretty before, but rather 45 minutes of exercise. Definitely, not worth the trouble, because she would have heard it again about how carless she was to have gotten the puppy sick and dead. Sometimes pootang, no matter how free, is just not worth all the trouble. Got to connect on some kind of level, even when you are in the game.
Bill Miami
04-26-21, 17:11
If things return to normal. Pattaya is better then Bangkok. People who know both might disagree but you don't know both. Pattaya is easy. It's small enough to get around easy. Places are easy to find. Baht buses are cheap and easy. You can walk from walking street to soi six and find aggressive sex workers or stop on soi 7 and 8 for a bit more laid back but still a bit aggressive. Or you can find casual beer bars to just sit and drink but still fuck the girls there if you want.
Bangkok has all that but it's a big city with the big city feel. You might like that better but if it's just a sex holiday and first time pattaya wins hands down.
You're asking for opinion though and that's mine others may differ.WS to Soi 6 is a long dam walk. At least it is for me when I am after the ladies and not exercising.
Bill Miami
04-26-21, 17:21
I am going to post this here and in the Bangkok page. I am curious, Where is it best to travel to when tourism comes back? Bangkok or Pattaya?Always Pattaya tourist or no tourist! Let's see, you have your choice of a mega city that is so large the authorities have no idea how many people live there that's hot as sin constantly, with real close to the worst traffic in the world. Or a sea side resort (Note: I did not say Luxury sea side resort) that even in the worst of times is way easier to get around in than Bangkok as well being way easier to find super hot ladies who are tired of studying for the college finals and need to make a little tuition money. Just my opinion and I sure we have a few that disagree, but we all know, they won't know what they are talking about.
Bill Miami
04-26-21, 17:32
The news report was about Soi Esso, an area up in Moo 10 off Sukhumvit. It's pretty much a Thai only area, with bars frequented by Thai men. The police showed up a few days later and found nothing.
Chinatown in Pattaya is just south of Terminal 21.Your saying that its before North Pattaya Road and the Dolphin Roundabout. It can't be between beach and 2nd road I am pretty sure I have been up and down each on of them at least once. The first time I heard about it in 20 years, which in the past there was a good reason I hadn't heard about it before. But, I in for anything once, when things get back to normal I will try to find it. And before I start looking, I will ask around somebody has to have been there, at least once.
Danny Duck
04-26-21, 17:47
Always Pattaya tourist or no tourist! Let's see, you have your choice of a mega city that is so large the authorities have no idea how many people live there that's hot as sin constantly, with real close to the worst traffic in the world. Or a sea side resort (Note: I did not say Luxury sea side resort) that even in the worst of times is way easier to get around in than Bangkok as well being way easier to find super hot ladies who are tired of studying for the college finals and need to make a little tuition money. Just my opinion and I sure we have a few that disagree, but we all know, they won't know what they are talking about.If only one choice it's Bangkok.
Are you implying super hot free college girls who just want to be satisfied are Available in Pattaya. Come on man.
SoberHans69
04-26-21, 18:03
I am going to post this here and in the Bangkok page. I am curious, Where is it best to travel to when tourism comes back? Bangkok or Pattaya?Think it depends on your tastes and budget.
BKK is better for tourism, food, shopping, soapies, BJ bars IMO and better for non mongering nightlife.
Pattaya is cheaper for freelancers / hotels / food / drinks etc, has Soi 6, is easier to get around and has beaches.
I couldn't tell you about which has the best Go Go's as I haven't been in them since my first few trips.
If it was purely for mongering, I'd choose Pattaya because I love Soi 6 and I'm not into soapies.
I would stay in nakula. So my loop was nakula down beach road to walking street and back to nakula on second road. Stopping wherever. If I got tired it's so easy to just hop in a baht bus. It was a long walk but it was continuous. Walk a bit, sit in a bar a bit, ride a baht bus to next place a bit.
I think I'm a bit off from the average monger. I would go to Thailand for a few months and had a budget so I paced myself. .
WS to Soi 6 is a long dam walk. At least it is for me when I am after the ladies and not exercising.
Explorer8939
04-26-21, 22:06
Your saying that its before North Pattaya Road and the Dolphin Roundabout. It can't be between beach and 2nd road I am pretty sure I have been up and down each on of them at least once. The first time I heard about it in 20 years, which in the past there was a good reason I hadn't heard about it before. But, I in for anything once, when things get back to normal I will try to find it. And before I start looking, I will ask around somebody has to have been there, at least once.No. It's north of Bangkok Hospital Pattaya on Sukhumvit.
Only Thai customers and expensive.
LittleBigMan
04-27-21, 02:29
Your saying that its before North Pattaya Road and the Dolphin Roundabout. It can't be between beach and 2nd road I am pretty sure I have been up and down each on of them at least once. The first time I heard about it in 20 years, which in the past there was a good reason I hadn't heard about it before. But, I in for anything once, when things get back to normal I will try to find it. And before I start looking, I will ask around somebody has to have been there, at least once.Your compass is off, Esso Gas Station isn't East and West it is North and South. On Sukhumvit and Pattaya Nua you head North which is the direction of the Bangkok Hospital continue pass go down to Soi 22 make a left just before the Gas Station it is the area behind the station. I was heading down the Electric office yesterday during the day and turn in to check the Soi out the residents shop today aren't anything it was years ago tough to see as report 50 girls sitting outside at night. At some point, I will make an evening visiting.
I am going to post this here and in the Bangkok page. I am curious, Where is it best to travel to when tourism comes back? Bangkok or Pattaya?For a relaxing holiday with as much sex as you can handle: Pattaya.
If you want to be close to the airport, then BKK is best. Again, this is provided both areas return to pre-covid times. BKK has roughly three "red light" districts that are spread out.
Pattaya City is a red light district, LOL.
Agree with the earlier comment that Pattaya is cheaper for just about everything.
For a relaxing holiday with as much sex as you can handle: Pattaya.
If you want to be close to the airport, then BKK is best. Again, this is provided both areas return to pre-covid times. BKK has roughly three "red light" districts that are spread out.
Pattaya City is a red light district, LOL.
Agree with the earlier comment that Pattaya is cheaper for just about everything.Pattaya is a one-and-a-half-hour drive away from the airport in good traffic, BKK a 1-hour drive away in heavy traffic. I don't see this making much of a difference.
As to Pattaya being cheaper, this didn't apply to moving around outside the Songtaew circus. Taxis in Pattaya charged 200 Baht minimum pre-covid. A typical ten-minutes' ride set you back 400 Baht. On average 3 times as expensive as in BKK. Now with Bolt things are different but nobody knows for how long.
Anyway none of this matters any more now. No bars, no swimming pools, no foot massages ... Pattaya now anything but a red-light district, more like a ghost-town. Not much different from a quarantine except you can still have girls visiting.
Danny Duck
04-27-21, 17:57
Think it depends on your tastes and budget.
BKK is better for tourism, food, shopping, soapies, BJ bars IMO and better for non mongering nightlife.
Pattaya is cheaper for freelancers / hotels / food / drinks etc, has Soi 6, is easier to get around and has beaches.
I couldn't tell you about which has the best Go Go's as I haven't been in them since my first few trips.
If it was purely for mongering, I'd choose Pattaya because I love Soi 6 and I'm not into soapies.Never understood how Nana Plaza Barfines were 700 while Pattaya Agogos charge 1,000 or more.
Not like the girls were any better.
The price put me off from Pattaya Barfining.
Never understood how Nana Plaza Barfines were 700 while Pattaya Agogos charge 1,000 or more.
Not like the girls were any better.
The price put me off from Pattaya Barfining.I think it is the lack of competition in Pattaya, the same reason Pattaya taxi drivers charge ridiculously high rates compared to those in Bangkok.
If you don't like the cost of barfines in Nana Plaza go-go bars, walk 15 minutes to Soi Cowboy, ride 10 minutes in a taxi to Patpong or even ride the bts skytrain 20 minutes to Saphan Kwai. Competition. During normal times, that is.
If you don't like the cost of barfines in Pattaya's Walking Street go-go bars, book a taxi for a 2-3 hour 1,200+ baht ride to Nana Plaza or a 3+ hour bus ride for 118 baht. Zero real world go-go bar competition.
Imo, the relative isolation of Pattaya from many more, bigger and better line ups to be found hours away in Bangkok allows Pattaya to get away with doling out sub par service from sub par girls that are overpriced at what they actually charge and get even if the net cost for pussy for fucking (and girls for sucking) is less than it is in Bangkok.
In the past 7-8 years and many trips and to Pattaya from Bangkok, not one time did it result in me getting more, better or even as good pussy with quality girls for less than it costs me in Bangkok. I only go there for the change in scenery or because a friend wants to go and check it out.
For quantity and quality of pussy, fucking, sucking and good girls for less cost, it is not worth the 2-3 hour trip and cost for me to leave Bangkok and journey to Pattaya in hopes of finding it. It ain't there. For me.
As always, YMMV.
Lucky Nuts
04-28-21, 04:16
I am going to post this here and in the Bangkok page. I am curious, Where is it best to travel to when tourism comes back? Bangkok or Pattaya?Well you have to travel to Bangkok to reach Pattaya so of course you should check out the action in both.
But if you are a 50+ plus year old white guy don't expect to be able to pull the best girls in Pattaya. The hottest Pattaya pros only barfine with young Asian guys from China, Korea, and Japan. If you are content to barfine the more average looking girls I'd say go straight to Pattaya.
Bangkok on the other hand I think there are more regular girls that come to work on busy weekend nights. Does anyone know if maybe X number of days contracts are not required in Bangkok the way the are in Pattaya? I've found the hottest girls to be at least somewhat receptive to this older white guy in Bangkok as compared to Pattaya.
Still I spend most of my time in Pattaya just because I like the beach town so much more than the big city of Bangkok.
HorseTrader
04-28-21, 05:16
Never understood how Nana Plaza Barfines were 700 while Pattaya Agogos charge 1,000 or more.
Has my memory failed me? I remember paying about 1200 baht for bar fines at Nana Plaza. Maybe I got the special farang price. Butterflies and Mandarin were my most common bar fines. Most recently was February and March 2020.
Bar fines on Koh Samui were lower. Bar fines on Bangla Road were higher. Again, maybe my memory has failed me.
Banana Boi
04-28-21, 05:54
Never understood how Nana Plaza Barfines were 700 while Pattaya Agogos charge 1,000 or more.Which Pattaya gogo bars charged 1000 baht and when were you last in Pattaya?
Well you have to travel to Bangkok to reach Pattaya so of course you should check out the action in both.
Still I spend most of my time in Pattaya just because I like the beach town so much more than the big city of Bangkok.The whole city is an active brothel in Pattaya. The options are wide and get enough fresh air. It is an awesome vacation place packed with adult entertainments. With my experience of more than thirty plus visits in Pattaya since 2005.
Regards.
Banana Boi
04-28-21, 06:09
Imo, the relative isolation of Pattaya from many more, bigger and better line ups to be found hours away in Bangkok We will never agree on this I know that already. Maybe it's my inexperience in Bangkok or yours in Pattaya. I've only done about 30 or 40 trips to Bangkok since 2015 never staying more than 1 week so I am by no means an expert on Bangkok gogo bars I guess. Maybe the scene just pre-COVID was better in Bangkok I'm not sure because I was living in Tokyo by then. I wouldn't exactly call Pattaya gogo bars as not having many girls. A few years ago you could find up to 150 girls at Sensations, over a 100 at Happy / Beach Club, Palace, Pin Up, Baccara, etc. There's Sapphire, Peppermint, What's Up/Imagine, and possibly Skyfall too but I don't go to those gogo bars often. We have very different taste in girls if you couldn't find lookers at these A class gogo bars. You must like the natural Thai look like Syzygies. There's only about the same amount of BKK gogo bars with 100+ girls. Maybe I'm ladyboy-phobic but I see most of Nana Plaza as ladyboys.
With my experience of more than thirty plus visits in Pattaya since 2005.
You've been on ISG for a long time and I don't recall any detailed Pattaya reviews from you since I started researching the Pattaya forum in 2013/2014, What gives? Bit Siri.
You've been on ISG for a long time and I don't recall any detailed Pattaya reviews from you since I started researching the Pattaya forum in 2013/2014, What gives? Bit Siri.Laziness sir simply laziness. Joined in the ISG forum very long ago. Reviews in the forum always helped me in my solo monger travel in different countries. BB, you also helped me in my Jakarta trip conveying information. He he.
Danny Duck
04-28-21, 07:18
One good thing and in the only way Pattaya beats Bungkock is Agogo scene gets going at 8 pm.
BKK generally starts at 9 pm, even then the Stars are only beginning to show up.
Hi friends.
No travel since Feb 20. No mongering. Physical frustration is gradually creeping into the blood and brain. No lights of hopes anywhere. Back again looking into the paradise of mongering with hope and expectation. Only worry whether these girls forget how to fuck again after a long break. Height of unemployement is simply seen by cobweb on a pros vagina. Erectile dysfunction can happen anytime if things go like this. He he.
Regards.
There are two markets on Soi Buakhao. One open Tuesdays and Fridays, early morning until the early evening, and sits near Tukcom. The other is past Treetown with Central Festival on the horizon and is open everyday. If bored, there is always some street action and girls ready for pick up in both markets. The latter, being the better of the two. The first is good for grabbing some Joe and people watching. Both has plenty of food and drinks. Normally, what I do is grab my bag and empty container and beg for some free food like the monks do here. All you have to do is stand in front of the Thai food stall or vendor with your container, and they will drop some food inside it. Then Monkeypaw chants a few words, blessing the vendor and their family. Works like a charm! Thailand has so much food that nobody goes hungry here, not even the homeless. Back when the bars and clubs were open, they used to have offerings in front of the businesses with some food, drinks, and alcohol, along with some incense burning. I would see random people like that tattooed dark skinned Thai who walks around in his boxers, take the food and the shots of liquor. It looked like a good idea to save a few hundred bahts. There have been times before I hit up Walking Street, I would do the same as a warm up and chug their shots they leave outside. The Thais really don't even say anything if they see you. Too bad the Westerners don't practice this, feed the dead ancestors and bring good luck, stuff. Just Monkeypaw, monking around.
Bill Miami
04-28-21, 13:33
This so sucks! It's 7:45 I want to go out and the whole FN city is closed. After 17 years here and for the first time I am actually thinking about getting a live in girl friend. The world is coming to an end. This stinking virus is ruining my life. I think covers it.
Mr Enternational
04-28-21, 14:17
This so sucks! It's 7:45 I want to go out and the whole FN city is closed. After 17 years here and for the first time I am actually thinking about getting a live in girl friend. The world is coming to an end. This stinking virus is ruining my life. I think covers it.For what? The beauty of Pattaya is that you can always call over a different chick. There is no need to go out to find one or have one live with you because of scarcity. The stinking virus made my life much better. I picked up more hobbies and made more money investing. It broadened my horizons rather than stick to doing the same old routine that I had been doing for years and had become complacent with.
Danny Duck
04-28-21, 19:51
For what? The beauty of Pattaya is that you can always call over a different chick. There is no need to go out to find one or have one live with you because of scarcity. The stinking virus made my life much better. I picked up more hobbies and made more money investing. It broadened my horizons rather than stick to doing the same old routine that I had been doing for years and had become complacent with.Please expound how you made more money investing, I'm game. LOL.
I've found selling option Premium s can be quite lucrative.
Time will tell.
... I wouldn't exactly call Pattaya gogo bars as not having many girls. A few years ago you could find up to 150 girls at Sensations, over a 100 at Happy / Beach Club, Palace, Pin Up, Baccara, etc. There's Sapphire, Peppermint, What's Up/Imagine, and possibly Skyfall too but I don't go to those gogo bars often. We have very different taste in girls if you couldn't find lookers at these A class gogo bars. You must like the natural Thai look like Syzygies. There's only about the same amount of BKK gogo bars with 100+ girls. Maybe I'm ladyboy-phobic but I see most of Nana Plaza as ladyboys.
...I wouldn't say I couldn't find lookers in some Pattaya go-go bars if I went into certain go-go bars in search of them. Just that there is (or was, during normal times) naturally a greater number of them of that level on view to all in and out of Bangkok's go-go bars. That not only creates more competition among girls of that level to offer somewhat better sex and attitude in order to score a customer but, most importantly to me, it inspires more competition among the 2nd Tier girls to offer demonstrably better sex and attitude to score a customer on their assumption that any customer could choose from among those highly visible and accessible Top Tier lookers any minute instead.
Unless you go into a handful of top go-go bars, the vast majority of customers and sub par or middling girls in Pattaya could easily think the overwhelming majority of sub par and middling girls on view everywhere in the city are the Queens of the Prom and if you don't like how they look or deliver in bed, get to work in those few go-go bars, start spending and see if you pass muster for the great honor of taking one to your room for standard, basic fare, if that, at silly high prices. Not so for sub par, middling or even 2nd Tier girls in Bangkok.
LittleBigMan
04-29-21, 01:41
For what? The beauty of Pattaya is that you can always call over a different chick. There is no need to go out to find one or have one live with you because of scarcity. The stinking virus made my life much better. I picked up more hobbies and made more money investing. It broadened my horizons rather than stick to doing the same old routine that I had been doing for years and had become complacent with.A person who doesn't let a crisis go to waste!
Banana Boi
04-29-21, 06:30
One good thing and in the only way Pattaya beats Bungkock is Agogo scene gets going at 8 pm.Wrong again. In Pattaya many gogo bars opened well before 8 pm pre-COVID so no need to wait until 8 pm. Windmill, Happy, Baccara to name a few.
However, do agree that Bangkok is more or less only night time fun other than massage joints. Pattaya has massage, Soi 6, 20 or 30 BJ bars and G clubs, hundreds if not a thousand outdoor bar beers, all open from 1 pm or even earlier.
Bit siri.
Franciscass
04-29-21, 07:31
Please expound how you made more money investing, I'm game. LOL.
I've found selling option Premium s can be quite lucrative.
Time will tell.Covid brought opportunities if you got the timing right, not always easy.
My current major position is shorting dollar / Euro using Sept and Dec contracts at 216 and 218. I see Joe getting a big chunk of what he's asking for, even republicans no longer seem to regard deficits as dangerous. I'm betting the markets will see it differently.
Bill Miami
04-29-21, 16:19
Covid brought opportunities if you got the timing right, not always easy.
My current major position is shorting dollar / Euro using Sept and Dec contracts at 216 and 218. I see Joe getting a big chunk of what he's asking for, even republicans no longer seem to regard deficits as dangerous. I'm betting the markets will see it differently.OK, each to their own. Some people believe sitting down at a poker table is investing. Playing the FX markets is just another form of gambling even for the big boys, who have access to more information and more computer power than the rest of us could ever imagine. Hey, if your good at and make money call it whatever you want, but its not investing.
Danny Duck
04-29-21, 18:14
I wouldn't say I couldn't find lookers in some Pattaya go-go bars if I went into certain go-go bars in search of them. Just that there is (or was, during normal times) naturally a greater number of them of that level on view to all in and out of Bangkok's go-go bars. That not only creates more competition among girls of that level to offer somewhat better sex and attitude in order to score a customer but, most importantly to me, it inspires more competition among the 2nd Tier girls to offer demonstrably better sex and attitude to score a customer on their assumption that any customer could choose from among those highly visible and accessible Top Tier lookers any minute instead.
Unless you go into a handful of top go-go bars, the vast majority of customers and sub par or middling girls in Pattaya could easily think the overwhelming majority of sub par and middling girls on view everywhere in the city are the Queens of the Prom and if you don't like how they look or deliver in bed, get to work in those few go-go bars, start spending and see if you pass muster for the great honor of taking one to your room for standard, basic fare, if that, at silly high prices. Not so for sub par, middling or even 2nd Tier girls in Bangkok.The Boi has Rose Colored syndrome regarding Pattaya.
Pattaya pales in comparison to BKK. In every way imaginable.
Danny Duck
04-29-21, 18:24
OK, each to their own. Some people believe sitting down at a poker table is investing. Playing the FX markets is just another form of gambling even for the big boys, who have access to more information and more computer power than the rest of us could ever imagine. Hey, if your good at and make money call it whatever you want, but its not investing.There are quite a few Poker players who win playing Poker online.
It is a Skill.
They have the Stats to prove it.
Me on the other Hand. Hahaha.
Last night I would have hit top 5 in late stages of a tournament. My 91% to the good monster hand favorite lost though. I had a straight vs two pears. Run it thru the calculator, I was Robbed. LOL.
Is America s Cardroom available in Thailand. Would make trips even more Fun.
Explorer8939
04-30-21, 00:53
There are two markets on Soi Buakhao. One open Tuesdays and Fridays, early morning until the early evening, and sits near Tukcom. The other is past Treetown with Central Festival on the horizon and is open everyday. If bored, there is always some street action and girls ready for pick up in both markets. The latter, being the better of the two. I have never seen working ladies at the Buakhow market, unless you are simply saying that you pick up random ladies wherever they present themselves in Pattaya, like at Terminal 21 or Tukcom. I have been bar girls shopping at the market, but not there to find customers, often with their Thai boyfriend.
I am in Pattaya now, although I am in quarantine, I am overlooking 3rd Road, and can see its very quiet. Yet another level of restrictions have been imposed. The only good news is that the number of new infections is leveling off, maybe bars will open on June 1.
Okaqy, back to your discussions of gambling on the stock market.....
SinfullyKorean
04-30-21, 01:29
Looks like they're making quarantines 14 days mandatory again due to the recent covid outbreak, regardless of whether you have a vaccine or not. I wish they put some data out for their reasoning for this. If any of the recent outbreak was due to tourists who were released out of quarantine too early, I'd understand the reaction. But this seems to be just a draconian measure, similar to their restriction of alcohol sales.
LittleBigMan
04-30-21, 01:58
I have never seen working ladies at the Buakhow market, unless you are simply saying that you pick up random ladies wherever they present themselves in Pattaya, like at Terminal 21 or Tukcom. I have been bar girls shopping at the market, but not there to find customers, often with their Thai boyfriend.
I am in Pattaya now, although I am in quarantine, I am overlooking 3rd Road, and can see its very quiet. Yet another level of restrictions have been imposed. The only good news is that the number of new infections is leveling off, maybe bars will open on June 1.
Okaqy, back to your discussions of gambling on the stock market.....I don't buy at the Soi Buakhao market plenty of ones out here on the Darkside. But the market on Tuesday and Friday end of Baukhao which isn't even close to what it was pre-covid working girls living nearby need to shop and eat but they aren't working! Tough to explain in words here but in general there are certain things to look for and taking a guess? Now I wouldn't just assume go up and grab their ass like Online will take some work even a bit of stalking?
One, the manner of dress, tattoos, a problem if you look you aren't going to find isn't that always the case? The aisle where they sell women's clothes, cosmetics, particularly the cheap facial spas, even the food court area leading to Pattaya Tai. There is a second-hand market on the other side of the main market the congested area where the songthaew stop I've run into a number based on my stereotyping. Remember just because they are in the business doesn't mean while shopping they are open to being pick up 24/7 it takes work and luck.
LittleBigMan
04-30-21, 02:29
Looks like they're making quarantines 14 days mandatory again due to the recent covid outbreak, regardless of whether you have a vaccine or not. I wish they put some data out for their reasoning for this. If any of the recent outbreak was due to tourists who were released out of quarantine too early, I'd understand the reaction. But this seems to be just a draconian measure, similar to their restriction of alcohol sales.When it comes to Thais and their leadership they don't lead they follow! My favorite saying " monkey see monkey do " once you get it every article every suggestion daily put out you will understand it is just white lies, smoke, or mirrors, call it whatever you want even be. S. Thai endorse like every country the " art of war " deflect and continue to deflect! If it is clearly green they will tell you it isn't.
You talk about them putting data that isn't going to happen! Prior to the 3rd wave although slow there was some light at the end of the tunnel because as slow as the vaccine is coming to Thailand it was coming at some point they could sit back and wait and delay until their production factory ramp up the Astra bad timing call it what you want but the 3rd wave came. I've said from the beginning on another forum you can't stop it sooner or later it will come in some form it has always been my view it will come within their own borders.
This time around the beginning they had no excuse to blame the foreigner but as time went on they find a reason, that reason is deflecting where the problem started now slowly pointing to the foreigners we are back to square one foreigners are the problem. So Yes their leaders will again impose what they think works best, put back the 14 days quarantine regardless of an outsider being vaccine or not, back to lockdowns, it isn't rocket science that the number of people coming in being quarantine or vaccinated isn't even close to those being infected the last few months. The numbers don't justify the blame!
Months, now out here on the Darkside they have been testing locals even before the 3rd breakout locals were talking even they felt something wasn't right. Right now it is panic this time locals are scared and their leaders are the blame. While they were worrying about tourist point fingers getting up each morning talking about a bubble, quality tourist, sandbox, did nothing constructive in a year to get ready for the outbreak now it is here they are ramping up talking about the " sputnik " In all their talk there has been no evidence of one case of a foreigner legally being quarantine spreading the virus.
This puppet leader has no idea what color socks he is wearing, doesn't even know he has already gotten the vaccine, Astra, that by science standard he doesn't have to wear a mask, puts himself out there to be an idiot doesn't even know the fine for not wearing a mask when he supposedly endorses the law, has to call to find out what an idiot! Sorry, just a rant!
To end, we are back to square one until the roll out the vaccine which will be mainly Astra, to their people and there is some herd immunity quickly and things change you won't see any leader here making the decision to open until China tells them it is okay.
Mr Enternational
04-30-21, 03:41
I have never seen working ladies at the Buakhow market, unless you are simply saying that you pick up random ladies wherever they present themselves in Pattaya, like at Terminal 21 or Tukcom. I have been bar girls shopping at the market, but not there to find customers, often with their Thai boyfriend.You are supposed to be true to this, but you are acting new to this. Since when does a woman have to go out looking for a man for a man to find a woman? And Pattaya is the last place on earth that a chick needs to have a sign on that says she is available. I have been saying for years that a lot of gogo chicks go to the market for food when they wake up and before they go to work. Makes no difference though if guys are afraid to talk to them outside of a bar where they will pay 3 times more.
Banana Boi
04-30-21, 04:32
I have never seen working ladies at the Buakhow market, See gogo girls all the time at Buakhao market, usually on their days off or before work. The other good small market to see them is the one on South Pattaya Road between Tukcom and WS. If you're lucky enough to be in Pattaya the week or two when they have that huge market in the church near Second and South Pattaya Road, go there! You'll see lots of gogo girls shopping before work.
You are supposed to be true to this, but you are acting new to this. Since when does a woman have to go out looking for a man for a man to find a woman?
Some men don't have the confidence and/or ability to do this.
Some men don't have the confidence and/or ability to do this.If I get a return smile the signal is green. Don't be in a hurry when talking. My modus operendi. If she is free will join.
If I get a return smile the signal is green. Don't be in a hurry when talking. My modus operendi. If she is free will join.Thai girls will always be polite and kind. They will give you their line ID if you ask. They have a dead line ID they use to be polite and kind while at the same time not having anything to do with you. I could run a whole new social media network with the dead line IDs I've collected in Thailand.
For what? The beauty of Pattaya is that you can always call over a different chick. There is no need to go out to find one or have one live with you because of scarcity. The stinking virus made my life much better. I picked up more hobbies and made more money investing. It broadened my horizons rather than stick to doing the same old routine that I had been doing for years and had become complacent with.Expenses reduced, savings getting better and new hobbies developed, I agree my friend. But time is loosing and male menopause on door step. That is the worry. He he. One of old GF in Pattaya told me once that she had 80 year old boy friend. She want him to sleep always because when he wake up immediately he will be in action. I realy envy on him. He he.
Franciscass
04-30-21, 06:51
OK, each to their own. Some people believe sitting down at a poker table is investing. Playing the FX markets is just another form of gambling even for the big boys, who have access to more information and more computer power than the rest of us could ever imagine. Hey, if your good at and make money call it whatever you want, but its not investing.Whether it's investing or not I imagine depends on how narrow you define investing. It's true trading futures is indeed high risk and I have had more margin calls than I care to remember. I've been at it a long time and I'm ahead. I'm not a technical chart trader, as you suggest you will get eaten alive in that space. I make judgments based on political developments both national and international and follow some basic investing principles, be patient, take your loss and don't get greedy.
Explorer8939
04-30-21, 06:54
You are supposed to be true to this, but you are acting new to this. Since when does a woman have to go out looking for a man for a man to find a woman? And Pattaya is the last place on earth that a chick needs to have a sign on that says she is available. I have been saying for years that a lot of gogo chicks go to the market for food when they wake up and before they go to work. Makes no difference though if guys are afraid to talk to them outside of a bar where they will pay 3 times more.As I said, I see bargirl shopping at Buakhow market, but they are not soliciting customers. There are loads of women in Pattaya, but only a fraction are looking for customers; even bargirl can't be bothered outside of work, in many cases.
My rule of thumb is, if they aren't obviously soliciting, don't bother them.
I have never seen working ladies at the Buakhow market, unless you are simply saying that you pick up random ladies wherever they present themselves in Pattaya, like at Terminal 21 or Tukcom. I have been bar girls shopping at the market, but not there to find customers, often with their Thai boyfriend SNIP...The guys below have pretty much answered your question for me. All are long stay vets in Pattaya and know who is who, can pick up on cues and signs, and know the Pattaya scene better than most.
You are supposed to be true to this, but you are acting new to this. Since when does a woman have to go out looking for a man for a man to find a woman? And Pattaya is the last place on earth that a chick needs to have a sign on that says she is available. I have been saying for years that a lot of gogo chicks go to the market for food when they wake up and before they go to work. Makes no difference though if guys are afraid to talk to them outside of a bar where they will pay 3 times more.
See gogo girls all the time at Buakhao market, usually on their days off or before work. The other good small market to see them is the one on South Pattaya Road between Tukcom and WS. If you're lucky enough to be in Pattaya the week or two when they have that huge market in the church near Second and South Pattaya Road, go there! You'll see lots of gogo girls shopping before work. Some men don't have the confidence and/or ability to do this.
Thai girls will always be polite and kind. They will give you their line ID if you ask. They have a dead line ID they use to be polite and kind while at the same time not having anything to do with you. I could run a whole new social media network with the dead line IDs I've collected in Thailand.
SNIP... But the market on Tuesday and Friday end of Baukhao which isn't even close to what it was pre-covid working girls living nearby need to shop and eat but they aren't working! Tough to explain in words here but in general there are certain things to look for and taking a guess? Now I wouldn't just assume go up and grab their ass like Online will take some work even a bit of stalking?
One, the manner of dress, tattoos, a problem if you look you aren't going to find isn't that always the case? The aisle where they sell women's clothes, cosmetics, particularly the cheap facial spas, even the food court area leading to Pattaya Tai. There is a second-hand market on the other side of the main market the congested area where the songthaew stop I've run into a number based on my stereotyping. Remember just because they are in the business doesn't mean while shopping they are open to being pick up 24/7 it takes work and luck.Monkeypaw can make reference to the one armed, shaved hair to one side of the head, missing teeth, too much make up wearing lady that walks up and down Buakhao, selling chewing gum. And I'm pretty certain all of those guys above will know who I am talking about. We just know the scene. Especially, since I have been here well over a year straight and with Pattaya at 90% contraction. Before it was 3-4 (one to two month long) trips a year as a tourist, no ThaiFriendly, and very very very few Beach Road adventures. It was Gogo bars or bust for me every night. Heck, I didn't even go to local markets like I do everyday now.
But LBM is right, for newbies, it will take some stalking and paying attention. Connect the dots and make the connection from the ThaiFriendly profile to the girl buying morning glory. Think of Pattaya as a big Jefferson High School, those in the game and can peep out who is who, are like the "Fonz. " The rest, the wannabes, are like Richie, Potsie, and Ralph, when it comes to chasing. And Lord forbid Chachi, who came here and is just stuck with Joanie. Any new kid in a new high school will be on the outside looking in until they become familiar with the nerds, jocks, cheerleaders, teachers, and everybody else. Remember it's all in the mind. The more you know, the further you go.
Danny Duck
04-30-21, 07:31
As I said, I see bargirl shopping at Buakhow market, but they are not soliciting customers. There are loads of women in Pattaya, but only a fraction are looking for customers; even bargirl can't be bothered outside of work, in many cases.
My rule of thumb is, if they aren't obviously soliciting, don't bother them.I'm with you.
Please Respect Thai girls.
I can give Mr. E a pass. He lives there.
TourduMonde
04-30-21, 09:40
Is America s Cardroom available in Thailand. Would make trips even more Fun.Yey! First question here I can actually answer. ACR is available in Thailand.
However note that like a lots of other things in Thailand, online gambling is in the "illegal but not enforced" category.
There are quite a few Poker players who win playing Poker online.
It is a Skill.Yes, though these days it's hard to make decent money at it by first-world standards. Actually some online pros move to Thailand for lifestyle / cost of living reasons.
As I said, I see bargirl shopping at Buakhow market, but they are not soliciting customers. There are loads of women in Pattaya, but only a fraction are looking for customers; even bargirl can't be bothered outside of work, in many cases.
My rule of thumb is, if they aren't obviously soliciting, don't bother them.If I am inspired to chat up a girl, P4P or not, at 11am next to the produce counters in my local market I would do it. Why not? Nothing to be shy about. If she responds it is also easy enough to exchange Line info to follow up later.
But I'm not going to be a slave to bird-dogging pussy everywhere I go throughout the day, choose where to shop for groceries based on where off duty go-go girls shop and so on. I went to that market because I have other things to do right now too; buy produce! LOL.
It turns out I am least interested in chasing and scoring pussy during the hours of the day when I have other things to do and most interested in chasing and scoring pussy when bars are typically open and bargirls are typically on the clock to meet customers.
I can't be alone in this thinking. Otherwise, go-go bars would be open 8am to 6pm instead of 8pm to 2am. Those latter hours are the times I am most interested in meeting and fucking girls instead of buying produce at the market.
I would rather pay more to meet and fuck girls during the hours of the evening I want to do that very thing than turn my regular day in and day out activities upside down and fuck them when I am least into it just to save a few baht. Not on a regular basis, that is.
Mr Enternational
04-30-21, 16:29
My rule of thumb is, if they aren't obviously soliciting, don't bother them.
Some men don't have the confidence and/or ability to do this.
I'm with you. Please Respect Thai girls. I can give Mr. E a pass. He lives there.After all these years I think I am finally putting 2 and 2 together. This is like some 40 Year Old Virgin shit. When I was 13,14, and 15 me and my friends had season passes for Six Flags. They had a teen disco called Graffiti's. Every Friday, Saturday, and Sunday we would go there and have a contest to see who could get the most phone numbers from chicks. In the Navy and college we would go to parties and clubs and meet chicks the same way.
For the past 16 years I have been on this website talking about exploits mostly with normal chicks that I did not have to pay in various countries and so many people have called bullshit. I have never understood that so many guys see fucking normal women as some kind of extraordinary feat.
But here we have a guy thinking he is bothering chicks if he talks to them without knowing for sure they are hookers. Another guy sees it as disrespectful to speak to women that may not be hookers. I am like wow; how have you guys managed to get through life?
I never said go to the market and offer 1,000 baht to a chick you like. You approach them as any other normal man I know approaches a female on planet earth. You converse with them and feel them out to see where their head is and exchange information and go from there. In places like Buakhao Market, if it turns out the chick is a hooker, then you pay her. If it turns out she is just a normal chick then you don't and you establish friendships and relationships from there.
For me it is second nature to talk to members of the opposite sex, but it seems for others it is kryptonite. In Thailand, besides hookers, there are plenty of great chicks that are not hookers, but I guess people do not want to bother or disrespect them by saying hello, how are you and having a normal conversation.
Banana Boi
05-01-21, 04:48
For the past 16 years I have been on this website talking about exploits mostly with normal chicks that I did not have to pay in various countries and so many people have called bullshit. I have never understood that so many guys see fucking normal women as some kind of extraordinary feat.
But here we have a guy thinking he is bothering chicks if he talks to them without knowing for sure they are hookers. Another guy sees it as disrespectful to speak to women that may not be hookers. Here is one of Explorer's first posts after "arriving" in Thailand.
And, no, I won't be pursuing any freebies like the nonsense being posted here.Seems like he is one of the guys who doesn't believe you (or I) are capable of picking up a normal Thai girl.
I did something I no longer do very often, if at all. I sent Explorer a PM to meet up when he first arrived since I figured he may want a bit of help and see some girl's photos to see if they may be someone he wants to hook up with. He appeared to be a bit frustrated when he first arrived. Explorer didn't even have the common courtesy to respond to my PM. So much for me trying to be helpful.
Banana Boi
05-01-21, 04:58
But I'm not going to be a slave to bird-dogging pussy everywhere I go throughout the day, choose where to shop for groceries based on where off duty go-go girls shop and so on. I went to that market because I have other things to do right now too; buy produce! LOL.Thailand is no different than your home country. If you seem desperate and are going to seek a girl the girls will pick up on that. Just let it happen, not go look for it.
Think of Pattaya as a big Jefferson High School, those in the game and can peep out who is who, are like the "Fonz. " The rest, the wannabes, are like Richie, Potsie, and Ralph, when it comes to chasing. And Lord forbid Chachi, who came here and is just stuck with Joanie.
Aren't you too young to know these TV shows?
My rule of thumb is, if they aren't obviously soliciting, don't bother them.
Wish this worked the other way around when I have no interest in a girl yet she keeps bothering me.
I have seen many guys in gogo bars and Thermae like this. If the girl doesn't make eye contact and smile at them they will assume the girl isn't interested in them.
Yes, though these days it's hard to make decent money at it by first-world standards. Actually some online pros move to Thailand for lifestyle / cost of living reasons.Too many bad beats in online poker. Played a bit last week. Got 2 Royal Flushes in about 5 tournaments total, once on the flop! Eliminated 2 players in 1 hand after they just played for nearly 2 hours. Pretty poor poker simulation but good for my hobby fund. I prefer to sign up for IRL tournaments or cash tables around the world.
Bit Siri.
Danny Duck
05-01-21, 07:21
We want top Quality Pattaya agogo girls for 1,000 baht.
To bleep with Free Normal eye glass shop or cosmetics girls.
Seems strange. Is anyone actually going to Pattaya to hook up with Cashiers at Food land.
Seems silly. Hahaha. Hahaha. Hahaha.
Explorer8939
05-01-21, 08:50
Here is one of Explorer's first posts after "arriving" in Thailand.
Seems like he is one of the guys who doesn't believe you (or I) are capable of picking up a normal Thai girl.
I did something I no longer do very often, if at all. I sent Explorer a PM to meet up when he first arrived since I figured he may want a bit of help and see some girl's photos to see if they may be someone he wants to hook up with. He appeared to be a bit frustrated when he first arrived. Explorer didn't even have the common courtesy to respond to my PM. So much for me trying to be helpful.I am sure you can pick up as many "normal" Thai girls as you want.
As for not responding to your PM, sorry, I thought it was from some normal Thai girl chasing after me.
BTW, how is the weather in Pattaya today?
Explorer8939
05-01-21, 08:54
The province of Chonburi (where Pattaya is located) has issued a new set of regulations, closing down more businesses and making it difficult to leave the area without permission.
It's unclear what the impact is going to be on the Buakhow market we were talking about will be. There may be no bargirls shopping there for a while.
My mongering opportunities may be limited to having ladies come to my condo, since almost everything will be shut down.
After all these years I think I am finally putting 2 and 2 together. This is like some 40 Year Old Virgin shit. When I was 13,14, and 15 me and my friends had season passes for Six Flags. They had a teen disco called Graffiti's. Every Friday, Saturday, and Sunday we would go there and have a contest to see who could get the most phone numbers from chicks. In the Navy and college we would go to parties and clubs and meet chicks the same way.
For the past 16 years I have been on this website talking about exploits mostly with normal chicks that I did not have to pay in various countries and so many people have called bullshit. I have never understood that so many guys see fucking normal women as some kind of extraordinary feat.
But here we have a guy thinking he is bothering chicks if he talks to them without knowing for sure they are hookers. Another guy sees it as disrespectful to speak to women that may not be hookers. I am like wow; how have you guys managed to get through life?
I never said go to the market and offer 1,000 baht to a chick you like. You approach them as any other normal man I know approaches a female on planet earth. You converse with them and feel them out to see where their head is and exchange information and go from there. In places like Buakhao Market, if it turns out the chick is a hooker, then you pay her. If it turns out she is just a normal chick then you don't and you establish friendships and relationships from there.
For me it is second nature to talk to members of the opposite sex, but it seems for others it is kryptonite. In Thailand, besides hookers, there are plenty of great chicks that are not hookers, but I guess people do not want to bother or disrespect them by saying hello, how are you and having a normal conversation.Have you considered the possibility those claiming it's difficult to get a nonpro girl are from India? Almost all the Indian men who visit Thailand are there for the hookers, and they don't have any desire or ability to meet normal women. This has been my observation when I lived in Bangkok many years before.
Maybe they think a normal nonpro girl who will talk to them has ulterior motives and only the ones clearly soliciting are safely going to offer their services for money? Who knows.
Aren't you too young to know these TV shows?It's part of being eternal and ageless. Besides those shows are good for building morals and ethics.
SNIP..I never said go to the market and offer 1,000 baht to a chick you like. You approach them as any other normal man I know approaches a female on planet earth. You converse with them and feel them out to see where their head is and exchange information and go from there. In places like Buakhao Market, if it turns out the chick is a hooker, then you pay her. If it turns out she is just a normal chick then you don't and you establish friendships and relationships from there... SNIPThis is what I am talking about when I keep saying there will always be some type of "game" required. The more you have, the better the success. BB is right, some just don't have the confidence or ability to game or peep out when someone else is gaming them. You have to be able to pick up on cues, body language, facial expressions, and tone of voice. But most importantly, like the great philosopher Tucker said, "Do you understand the words that are coming out of my mouth?" Go up to a girl in public and offer her money for sex while she is doing something else is idiotic. Heck, I don't do even that at a Gogo bar or Soi 6 bar, but Beach Road, yes! At the bars and clubs, I still have to gage them, pick up the vibes, and get the lowdown. Why? Because they all don't go with everybody and if you pressure them, it will just turn out shitty. It's just my mind process this information faster than most people. I call a girl for a drink, I see the tequila shot the waitress brings. By the time she comes down and sits with me, Monkeypaw drinks her tequila shot. Why? Tequila shot on first time call down means hustler. Big drink, at least she is willing to conversate and chill. Don't even waste my time anymore with that. At least I can work on my buzz, having paid for the drink anyways. If she wants, she can sit down just talk if she is really interested in letting me stick my dick in her. It's blunt, to the point, but very effective. Either way the drink ticket is hers to keep.
At the markets, you approach like a friend and pretend like know them from somewhere. Small talk with humor. Gage her interest and cues. Say that you changed your LINE. Get their LINE. Message them one day soliciting some sex for baht. Then immediately, apologize saying you accidentally thought you messaged someone else. And there is your bait. If they don't bite, apologize again and suggest you meet for some Crab Som Tum. Funny thing was back in the first lockdown last year, at Treetown and the Buakhao Markets, the girls approached me, always asking where am I going. They would do this even if I was just hanging out with people or eating. I thought there was an unwritten rule amongst hookers and Johns in Thailand about disturbing people when they are eating. But these girls don't give a damn nowadays. No respect for the rules of the game anymore. Anyways, here is Buakhao Market girl (I knew she was in the game from seeing her on TF and another member here had already hit it as well). She often goes there for take away at the Thai dessert stand. Her ams are about few centimeters shorter than Monkeypaw likes, but very doable, as she she makes it up in her ability to go deep. Just grab you a smoothie (preferably banana, no sugar, minimal milk) nearby, sit, chill, and relax. They will come. And if anybody is still in Pattaya, it's best to get out of that room to get some exercise and the markets are just dandy for that. My secret is to do your grocery shopping in small bits and pieces, not all at once. It's a deadly sin to be a sloth.
LittleBigMan
05-01-21, 14:16
Have you considered the possibility those claiming it's difficult to get a nonpro girl are from India? Almost all the Indian men who visit Thailand are there for the hookers, and they don't have any desire or ability to meet normal women. This has been my observation when I lived in Bangkok many years before.
Maybe they think a normal nonpro girl who will talk to them has ulterior motives and only the ones clearly soliciting are safely going to offer their services for money? Who knows.Not sure where you are picking up the conversation but the topic has really nothing to do with Indians, race, or the motive of a non-pro.
Danny Duck
05-01-21, 18:39
It's part of being eternal and ageless. Besides those shows are good for building morals and ethics.
This is what I am talking about when I keep saying there will always be some type of "game" required. The more you have, the better the success. BB is right, some just don't have the confidence or ability to game or peep out when someone else is gaming them. You have to be able to pick up on cues, body language, facial expressions, and tone of voice. But most importantly, like the great philosopher Tucker said, "Do you understand the words that are coming out of my mouth?" Go up to a girl in public and offer her money for sex while she is doing something else is idiotic. Heck, I don't do even that at a Gogo bar or Soi 6 bar, but Beach Road, yes! At the bars and clubs, I still have to gage them, pick up the vibes, and get the lowdown. Why? Because they all don't go with everybody and if you pressure them, it will just turn out shitty. It's just my mind process this information faster than most people. I call a girl for a drink, I see the tequila shot the waitress brings. By the time she comes down and sits with me, Monkeypaw drinks her tequila shot. Why? Tequila shot on first time call down means hustler. Big drink, at least she is willing to conversate and chill. Don't even waste my time anymore with that. At least I can work on my buzz, having paid for the drink anyways. If she wants, she can sit down just talk if she is really interested in letting me stick my dick in her. It's blunt, to the point, but very effective. Either way the drink ticket is hers to keep..How is this Helpful. You already knew she was a Hooker. LOL.
I'm asking for others. I have No desire to play games with any kind of Thai girl.
Explorer8939
05-02-21, 00:59
Have you considered the possibility those claiming it's difficult to get a nonpro girl are from India? Almost all the Indian men who visit Thailand are there for the hookers, and they don't have any desire or ability to meet normal women. This has been my observation when I lived in Bangkok many years before.
Maybe they think a normal nonpro girl who will talk to them has ulterior motives and only the ones clearly soliciting are safely going to offer their services for money? Who knows.Discussions about non-pros is off topic here. But some guys like to inflate their egos by claiming they score with civvies. The real story is that Thai civvies are pretty much like civvies in your home country, except you cannot speak their native language.
Banana Boi
05-02-21, 02:53
I am sure you can pick up as many "normal" Thai girls as you want.If you knew me you have it all wrong. I'm actually against picking up Freebies and feel guys take advantage of available free girls. I've posted this many times.
Pretty sure I know who you are. Seen you sitting in bars. I didn't say hi since figured you didn't want to meet me.
except you cannot speak their native language.
I think both Mr. E and I speak Thai pretty well.
BTW, how is the weather in Pattaya today?No idea I left Thailand a couple of weeks after I PM'd you. Had to return for a funeral.
Mr Enternational
05-02-21, 02:57
Discussions about non-pros is off topic here. But some guys like to inflate their egos by claiming they score with civvies. LOL. Claiming to score with normal chicks? This shit would be funny if it was not so ridiculous and sad. Don't know how this is off topic. Somehow people always forget this is a website about finding women for sex, not just finding women to pay for sex. The website owner should have made clear in the statement that it is of course not possible on this green earth to have sex with women that are not hookers, and if that someone claims to have done it then he is a damn liar.
Somehow people always forget this is a website about finding women for sex, not just finding women to pay for sex.I mean, the slogan for the site clearly states, "Money is the world's greatest aphrodisiac". That leads me to believe that the clear focus of the site is on paid for sex. Not that you can't talk about not saying, "How much"? But no doubt, the clear emphasis here is on "pay for play".
Explorer8939
05-02-21, 06:59
If you knew me you have it all wrong. I'm actually against picking up Freebies and feel guys take advantage of available free girls. I've posted this many times.
Pretty sure I know who you are. Seen you sitting in bars. I didn't say hi since figured you didn't want to meet me.
I think both Mr. E and I speak Thai pretty well.
No idea I left Thailand a couple of weeks after I PM'd you. Had to return for a funeral.Sorry, I didn't mean you don't speak Thai, I meant "you" in the sense of the readers here, who mostly don't speak Thai. As in, not so easy to have a relationship with a Thai lady if you don't speak Thai.
So, if you have seen me sitting in bars, I guess that means you now think I really have been to Pattaya. .
As for speaking Thai, I suck at it. I ran across this sentence in English, and couldn't translate it to Thai: "he eats white rice at nine o'clock". No fun.
Explorer8939
05-02-21, 07:00
Concerning picking up alleged civvies in Thailand, my practice is always to give them money, no matter what they say. So, if I never see them again, I don't feel like I have taken advantage of them.
Also, they can buy their Thai boyfriend a nice present with the money.
Nice catch. Will take her any day of the week and twice over the weekends hehehhehehehe.
How much did you pay ST / LT.
It's part of being eternal and ageless. Besides those shows are good for building morals and ethics.
This is what I am talking about when I keep saying there will always be some type of "game" required. The more you have, the better the success. BB is right, some just don't have the confidence or ability to game or peep out when someone else is gaming them. You have to be able to pick up on cues, body language, facial expressions, and tone of voice. But most importantly, like the great philosopher Tucker said, "Do you understand the words that are coming out of my mouth?" Go up to a girl in public and offer her money for sex while she is doing something else is idiotic. Heck, I don't do even that at a Gogo bar or Soi 6 bar, but Beach Road, yes! At the bars and clubs, I still have to gage them, pick up the vibes, and get the lowdown. Why? Because they all don't go with everybody and if you pressure them, it will just turn out shitty. It's just my mind process this information faster than most people. I call a girl for a drink, I see the tequila shot the waitress brings. By the time she comes down and sits with me, Monkeypaw drinks her tequila shot. Why? Tequila shot on first time call down means hustler. Big drink, at least she is willing to conversate and chill. Don't even waste my time anymore with that. At least I can work on my buzz, having paid for the drink anyways. If she wants, she can sit down just talk if she is really interested in letting me stick my dick in her. It's blunt, to the point, but very effective. Either way the drink ticket is hers to keep..
Discussions about non-pros is off topic here. But some guys like to inflate their egos by claiming they score with civvies. The real story is that Thai civvies are pretty much like civvies in your home country, except you cannot speak their native language.I re read the forum rules and couldn't find it to be off topic.
I lived in Thailand from 1999 to 2015. And once I spoke Thai "normal" girls from stores (7/11 girls are easy in the provinces!) and waitresses in restaurants (again especially upcountry) are quite easy. For them it is the wow it is a foreigner, he speaks Thai, he is actually interested in a simple girl like me. Just chat them up a bit ask for their number and invite them to meet. It is usually very easy. Advantage is (if it is your style) most will let you do without condom, they will not even mention it. Most are no virgins anyway and have been sexually active in their villages from a young age. It is amazing what happens in the villages. When you stay in one for a few weeks it really opens your eyes. Everyone seems to go with everyone.
LOL. Claiming to score with normal chicks? This shit would be funny if it was not so ridiculous and sad. Don't know how this is off topic. Somehow people always forget this is a website about finding women for sex, not just finding women to pay for sex. The website owner should have made clear in the statement that it is of course not possible on this green earth to have sex with women that are not hookers, and if that someone claims to have done it then he is a damn liar.Mr. E, the last four girls I met on TF all provided good or very good sex without payment. Money was never mentioned, they were not hookers and I feel that they would be insulted if money was offered. I do not have your level of experience with local girls, but Sir, I am not a liar!
Johnie,
Mr. E, the last four girls I met on TF all provided good or very good sex without payment. Money was never mentioned, they were not hookers and I feel that they would be insulted if money was offered. I do not have your level of experience with local girls, but Sir, I am not a liar!
Johnie,Nobody is going to be insulted if money and gifts are offered. Do not take advantage of Asian hospitality. I guarantee you the girls are not hard up for sex with a foreigner. They are hoping for a handout but too shy to mention it. It is because if their upbringing saying if you do it for money you are considered a prostitute.
Over the years I have met several girls over dating sites and had fun. Some have asked why I am offering money. I always say it is not as pay for fun but an offer as a friend. She can use it to for whatever purpose she wants to use it for. Believe me it is not just taxi fare.
Gloating over free sex in foreign countries is bad for us as a monger. We are for the most part not looking for a wife. Yes, we are taking advantage of vulnerable girls not by force but by friendship and remuneration for their efforts.
Money will always improve the life of one or many.
Mr Enternational
05-02-21, 14:03
Sorry, I didn't mean you don't speak Thai, I meant "you" in the sense of the readers here, who mostly don't speak Thai. As in, not so easy to have a relationship with a Thai lady if you don't speak Thai.Why are you coming up with 1 million excuses for why someone can not do something that you have never done? I have not always been able to speak Thai. My first time going to Pattaya was to see a chick that was a hairdresser that spoke English. After that I started dating a school teacher who now is married with 2 kids and living in the states. After that I was dating a real estate agent. All of this time I could not even say Hello, in Thai, but was visiting frequently. There is no need to speak Thai around Pattaya because most mfs that go there can speak English or they learn it fast once they get there. But you would never know that if you are scared to even speak to them.
The biggest and coolest thing that impresses me about Thai people is their willingness, fortitude, and ability to learn new languages. I was in the club one night with a Brazil shirt on and a Thai chick came up to me and started speaking Portuguese. I was shocked as shit. Turns out she was not a hooker and we started seeing each other.
Years ago when she was working at Mike's shopping some Brazilian lawyer came in there and met her. He ended up inviting her to Brazil. He kept her in an apartment. Turned out he was married, but he would not get her a ticket back home. She started learning Portuguese by watching TV and using an ENGLISH-Portuguese dictionary, not a Thai-Portuguese dictionary.
She got a job working in a bakery in Sao Paulo but eventually got busted by immigration, spent 6 months in immigration jail, and was shipped back to Thailand. But you never learn those types of stories if the only thing you are interested in saying to someone is how much and assuming you can not communicate otherwise.
Mr Enternational
05-02-21, 14:32
Gloating over free sex in foreign countries is bad for us as a monger. We are for the most part not looking for a wife. Yes, we are taking advantage of vulnerable girls not by force but by friendship and remuneration for their efforts.
Money will always improve the life of one or many.This is an attitude that I have never understood. How is it being smug talking about meeting normal women? When I was in high school, college and the Navy I was not looking for a wife. Was I then also taking advantage of vulnerable females?
It is as if women do not like hanging out with and having relationships and sex with men and they must be compensated financially for doing so. What if the chick in the foreign country has more than you? Should she then be paying you? What if the foreign chick bought a ticket to come to your country to visit you? Do you need to give her money before she goes back home? What if you met the foreign chick on the plane going to your country and she was going to visit family, but you ended up hooking up with her? Do you need to give her money then? I have been in each of these situations and have always failed to give them money.
I am in Curitiba, Brazil right now. It is 10:47 in the morning. A normal chick just left and went home. Should I have given her money? Afterall, she insisted on paying for my hotel room for the 2 days that I am here, in addition to screwing my brains out and licking my ass all night. How much should I have given her? I am really fucked up concerning the etiquette of this thing.
Would you do the same with some random chick in your own country because she earns less than you? Money would improve her life as well. Where is this line drawn that it is okay to do normal male-female shit with this chick here without giving her money, but if you do it with that chick there, you should be sure to give her money or feel ashamed if you don't?
Everybody does not need to be bought. Some folks are just normal people. Just because I pay to eat at restaurants all the time, does not mean I should pay at the end of the meal whenever a female invites me to her house for dinner. You dress for the type of party that you are attending. I am not wearing a mongering uniform to go on a date with a chick that is not a hooker.
I don't know if you're doing anything wrong, but it seems you are doing something right. . .
she insisted on paying for my hotel room for the 2 days that I am here, in addition to screwing my brains out and licking my ass all night. .
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Everybody does not need to be bought. Some folks are just normal people. Just because I pay to eat at restaurants all the time, does not mean I should pay at the end of the meal whenever a female invites me to her house for dinner.
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When you get the invitation do you immediately ask if there is anything you can bring to add to the dinner; Wine? Dessert? Have you ever brought something in hand anyway even if they politely said no, it wasn't necessary? Ever insist that the next one is your treat and make good on the offer?
Or do you always show up empty handed, eat your fill and walk away thinking, "Great! Free food. Why doesn't everybody do it this way? They must be shy suckers. Next."?
I think that's the concept some if us are conveying here.
It is because if their upbringing saying if you do it for money you are considered a prostitute.
But isn't that the texbook definition of a prostitute, if a girl has sex with a man and receive payment for it, then she is a ho, no?
Banana Boi
05-03-21, 03:47
So, if you have seen me sitting in bars, I guess that means you now think I really have been to Pattaya.Can't say it was you for sure. I've walked by the LK Metro bar you mention you visit a couple of times and there was only 1 guy sitting at the bar table facing LK Metro. As you know, many bars only have a single customer so I suspect that may have been you.
I never said you weren't in Pattaya.
re. speaking Thai it's a good ice breaker but really not necessary. I never let on that I understand enough Thai to get by. Always good to hear what girls say "behind your back". Very few girls I have met in Pattaya gogo bars do not speak English. Many have less of an Asian accent than many Asian Americans I know who have lived in America for 20+ years!
Mr. E, the last four girls I met on TF all provided good or very good sex without payment. Money was never mentioned, they were not hookers and I feel that they would be insulted if money was offered.
I don't agree with this at all. Not ragging on you per se but there are many guys who don't pay a TF girl just because the girl doesn't bring up the subject of cash. Logically why does a sexy 19 year old Thai girl go on TF look to bang a 40+ year old likely not so good looking guy? Is it out of the goodness of their heart? Doubtful. They either expect some some of payment in the end whether that be monetary, you buying her a gift, feeding her, providing her with a nice air conditioned room to stay in, or she sees potential in you for the long game. You should always leave it up to the girl. Some girls are actually too shy to ask.
Remember in 2015 when the price was always "up to you". Don't see that any more!
They won't be offended if you offer them money. Having said that, I had a good connection with a bartender at a bar in PP a few years ago. She was a bartender unavailable to barfine. Just for laughs I kept going to her bar and asking her to go out knowing full well the answer was going to be no. To my shock she finally said yes and we went for a very expensive Japanese teppanyaki dinner. So expensive the girl didn't even want to enter the restaurant when we arrived indicating it was too much to spend on food. All I expected was a dinner and she go back to the bar to work that evening. She ended up not working and spent the night. In the morning I had a predicament. She was not a bargirl so do I pay her or not. I pulled out $100 US and she looked at me disgusted saying she was on a date on her own time. She refused to take the money. That was fine with me because I offered.
Explorer8939
05-03-21, 04:48
Can't say it was you for sure. I've walked by the LK Metro bar you mention you visit a couple of times and there was only 1 guy sitting at the bar table facing LK Metro. As you know, many bars only have a single customer so I suspect that may have been you.
I never said you weren't in Pattaya.
.That would be the Cave. I never sit outside there. Have aircon inside.
I am in Curitiba, Brazil right now. Awesome Mr E,How is your experience in Curitiba? I never visited Brazil. It is in my bucket list. Don't know will work out or not.
Regards.
Mr. E, the last four girls I met on TF all provided good or very good sex without payment. Money was never mentioned, they were not hookers and I feel that they would be insulted if money was offered. I do not have your level of experience with local girls, but Sir, I am not a liar!
Johnie,In my experience if I build up a good relation with a Thai girl they won't demand money. Of course they need money. Can get GFE and the relation can be extended for my convenience if pay properly.
Recently my travel experience is along with John Tron in Asian Sex Diary. He is in Vietnam now after his exploration in the covid period in Pattaya. He is giving me an excellent visual feast. It is not a promotional report. In this dry season something is better than nothing.
Regards.
That would be the Cave. I never sit outside there. Have aircon inside.Interesting you say that, since all their hostesses and "others" used to sit outside from what I've seen. Maybe there is some hidden action going on behind indoors. That place just spooks me bc of its dark design, so I never bothered.
Mr. E, the last four girls I met on TF all provided good or very good sex without payment. Money was never mentioned, they were not hookers and I feel that they would be insulted if money was offered. I do not have your level of experience with local girls, but Sir, I am not a liar! Johnie,You mean they just showed up from TF, fucked and left. Nothing with any kind of monetary value was involved, dinner, taxi, coffee? I don't even have that power. An investment or exchange had to always occur with me.
Nice catch. Will take her any day of the week and twice over the weekends hehehhehehehe.
How much did you pay ST / LT.1100 short time. I don't do long anymore. I like my alone time. Makes shitting for relaxing.
Recently my travel experience is along with John Tron in Asian Sex Diary. He is in Vietnam now after his exploration in the covid period in Pattaya. He is giving me an excellent visual feast. It is not a promotional report. In this dry season something is better than nothing.
Regards.Not sure why some people would never want to do more extensive research beforehand. Alrighty then, to each his or her own. Different strokes?
https://www.imagefap.com/profile/realjohntron
Explorer8939
05-03-21, 07:48
In my experience if I build up a good relation with a Thai girl they won't demand money. Of course they need money. Can get GFE and the relation can be extended for my convenience if pay properly.Yep, you can get a rent-a-wife in Thailand. Sometimes for the rest of your life.
Yep, you can get a rent-a-wife in Thailand. Sometimes for the rest of your life.Sorry friend I can't hold one more than a week. He he. Purely polygamous.
But isn't that the texbook definition of a prostitute, if a girl has sex with a man and receive payment for it, then she is a ho, no?All men pay for sex whether with cash, dates, gifts or just time (time is money). Married men pay the most of all.
All men pay for sex whether with cash, dates, gifts or just time (time is money). Married men pay the most of all.And then keep paying when they get divorced!
All men pay for sex whether with cash, dates, gifts or just time (time is money). Married men pay the most of all.If it flys, floats, or fucks: lease it, don't buy it. Because it is not the cost of entry that will kill you, it is the maintenance.
SL.
Everybody does not need to be bought. Some folks are just normal people. Just because I pay to eat at restaurants all the time, does not mean I should pay at the end of the meal whenever a female invites me to her house for dinner. You dress for the type of party that you are attending. I am not wearing a mongering uniform to go on a date with a chick that is not a hooker.There are mongering situations and dating situations. Last time I checked this is a mongering forum. On mongering tour I have met normal girls and hookers. I have offered money for both. If they refuse so be it. I met a young bank employee in Bangkok. We traveled all over Asia had great time together. Never offered money because I knew she would be offended. Did buy her gifts though. She bought me some Thai gifts including collections of Thai music.
I strongly believe on mongering trips help the girls.
Explorer8939
05-04-21, 02:02
There are mongering situations and dating situations. Last time I checked this is a mongering forum. On mongering tour I have met normal girls and hookers. I have offered money for both. If they refuse so be it. I met a young bank employee in Bangkok. We traveled all over Asia had great time together. Never offered money because I knew she would be offended. Did buy her gifts though. She bought me some Thai gifts including collections of Thai music.
I strongly believe on mongering trips help the girls.If I wanted a girlfriend, I would stay home.
I want no strings attached sex. Right now, I know there are plenty of unemployed bargirls wandering around Pattaya, the question is where to hook up with them, and how much to pay.
There are mongering situations and dating situations.In both situation the girl will go back to her original stand once the contract is over. So ultimately both are same. One can create the benefit of attitude, GFE, with the way of approach and money.
Totally worth every BHT. She is cute as hell and a decent body to support it. I hope every bit of energy was drained out.
1100 short time. I don't do long anymore. I like my alone time. Makes shitting for relaxing.
https://www.imagefap.com/profile/realjohntron
Just bought Levitra from an Indian vendor on walking street, next to Soi 12. Twenty tablets for 1500 baht. French on one side of the box, just like the ones I bought in Bangkok one year ago. Will report later if they're duds.
Just bought Levitra from an Indian vendor on walking street, next to Soi 12. Twenty tablets for 1500 baht. French on one side of the box, just like the ones I bought in Bangkok one year ago. Will report later if they're duds.Actually the shop was on Beach Road, next to Mike's, but Soi 12 is close by. (We just had dinner where we were given the privilege to sit down and dine in, although there is supposed to be a TAKE AWAY ONLY ordinance). XXL pulled out his VIP card at the restaurant. Anyways, the vendor has some cool watches as well. I don't wear one, but I know people all over the world that bask in the joy of wearing fake designer watches. Funny thing is that these guys are really wealthy, so nobody questions them at all. Who is going to say anything to the guy in the club with the VIP table, bunch of expensive bottles, and a fake Hublot?
Same supplier for the watches is also for my Kamagra Jellys. So I get 750 baht per box, and resell them back for $300 USD or 9,000 baht each. Funnier thing is the guy who buys it, makes about $500 off each box. Nutty Fucking Buddy! Usually I flip 4 boxes a month for a hobby that nets me 25,000 baht a month. It gets me out and about, in order to get each box gift wrapped and shipped. Exercise. Life is all about supply and demand, and using knowledge as power. Keep the stupid in the dark and you have power over them. Lucky that Monkeypaw shares a shit load of information to random strangers.
Just got to be smart enough to look deeper in the words. You 'll find some serious hidden treasures and gems. Wonder if I use that 25,000 baht from this side hobby for pussy, is that considered free pussy?
Franciscass
05-04-21, 15:36
I am in Curitiba, Brazil right now. It is 10:47 in the morning. A normal chick just left and went home. Should I have given her money? Afterall, she insisted on paying for my hotel room for the 2 days that I am here, in addition to screwing my brains out and licking my ass all night. Right on, who says there is no free pussy? On a warm Bangkok night as the drizzle was becoming a downpour the Bentley Continental pulled up alongside Franciscass. The tinted back window rolled down and a winsome voice called out "Hey handsome man, did you forget your umbrella, come on get in before you start to look like a drowned rat'. She was I guessed mid-thirties amazingly beautiful sexy and so very funny. From the customized wine rack she opened a bottle of Bordeaux and we merrily drank, chatted and laughed together on the way to her gated estate across the river. Now I'm not one that gets gratuitous pleasure describing what happens between the sheets but I have to mention her Shanghai squeeze was the most amazing I have ever experienced. There was a brief period when I thought she would never let me out of her perfect pussy. I stayed the night, had breakfast in bed and after one more romp for the road we chatted some more. So what was going on, well it was simple, this was how she got her kicks. She told me she had visited Pattaya once or twice without finding anybody interesting. Said something like being there felt like living at the back of the mountain whatever that meant. Must be some local saying. She preferred Bangkok, felt ex pats there were more urbane and sophisticated. We then happily agreed that this was it, we would leave it as just what it was, a beautiful memorable one off. A goodbye kiss and the chauffeur dropped Franciscass home.
HorseTrader
05-04-21, 16:14
Just bought Levitra from an Indian vendor on walking street, next to Soi 12. Twenty tablets for 1500 baht. French on one side of the box, just like the ones I bought in Bangkok one year ago. Will report later if they're duds.I'm looking forward to your Levitra report. Is it as effective as the other boner pills? How bad are the side effects?
When I bought the stuff from a street vendor on Sukhumvit Soi 11, there were zero side effects and zero help with erection. Perhaps mine was fake.
Explorer8939
05-05-21, 07:33
I'm looking forward to your Levitra report. Is it as effective as the other boner pills? How bad are the side effects?
When I bought the stuff from a street vendor on Sukhumvit Soi 11, there were zero side effects and zero help with erection. Perhaps mine was fake.For some reason, Levitra gives me cold-like symptoms. I much prefer the jelly Kamagra. I get it on Soi Honey or sometimes Soi 6, there is generally someone selling it for 800 baht.
For some reason, Levitra gives me cold-like symptoms. I much prefer the jelly Kamagra. I get it on Soi Honey or sometimes Soi 6, there is generally someone selling it for 800 baht.Is the reason no one is mentioning Cialis because it isn't available in Thailand, it is much more expensive, or they don't like it? I haven't tried Levitra or Kamagra but for the bodybuilding and sex aspect I've been taking about 5 MG of Cialis a day.
For me the opposite.
Levitra all good.
Kamagra jelly I go to the toilets and vomit.
Maybe a fake kamagra but I buy in the pharmacy on sud road that looked ok.
Right on, who says there is no free pussy? On a warm Bangkok night as the drizzle was becoming a downpour the Bentley Continental pulled up alongside Franciscass. The tinted back window rolled down and a winsome voice called out "Hey handsome man, did you forget your umbrella, come on get in before you start to look like a drowned rat'. She was I guessed mid-thirties amazingly beautiful sexy and so very funny. From the customized wine rack she opened a bottle of Bordeaux and we merrily drank, chatted and laughed together on the way to her gated estate across the river. Now I'm not one that gets gratuitous pleasure describing what happens between the sheets but I have to mention her Shanghai squeeze was the most amazing I have ever experienced. There was a brief period when I thought she would never let me out of her perfect pussy. I stayed the night, had breakfast in bed and after one more romp for the road we chatted some more. So what was going on, well it was simple, this was how she got her kicks. She told me she had visited Pattaya once or twice without finding anybody interesting. Said something like being there felt like living at the back of the mountain whatever that meant. Must be some local saying. She preferred Bangkok, felt ex pats there were more urbane and sophisticated. We then happily agreed that this was it, we would leave it as just what it was, a beautiful memorable one off. A goodbye kiss and the chauffeur dropped Franciscass home.You sir have the makings of a novelist. Very appropriate report.
Is the reason no one is mentioning Cialis because it isn't available in Thailand, it is much more expensive, or they don't like it? I haven't tried Levitra or Kamagra but for the bodybuilding and sex aspect I've been taking about 5 MG of Cialis a day.I have a buddy who prefers Cialis so I canvassed lower Suk a few years ago for the possibilities. I only checked pharmacies and not street vendors. Representative pricing:
Real legit Cialis: 3,000 baht for 4 pills (20 MG).
Generic brand (made in India) Apcalis: 300 baht for 4 pills (20 MG).
The feedback I got from my friend was the generic Apcalis works fine.
SL.
Banana Boi
05-06-21, 03:09
Can you guys forego these drugs and get it up if the girl is hot enough? I don't take these drugs but I know I can't get it up if the girl is mediocre. Been this way since my early 30s.
Can you guys forego these drugs and get it up if the girl is hot enough? I don't take these drugs but I know I can't get it up if the girl is mediocre. Been this way since my early 30s.Yes, of course. The girl is by far the most powerful trigger to getting and maintaining an erection. But looks alone won't work. She also needs to have a nice touch, kiss and know how to apply them. If the girl has that skill and applies it properly, reasonable compromises can be made on looks and still get the job done.
But at my age even if all the elements are there in the girl I'm going to take a boner pill if I have been having sessions to completion three days in a row already, just to make sure. Living in Bangkok it iis rare for me to go more than 2 days in a row without a session to completion. So I am taking boner pills at some point during the week and therefore can't really say with certainty what it is like to have no traces at all of active ingredient in my system.
Explorer8939
05-06-21, 05:16
Can you guys forego these drugs and get it up if the girl is hot enough? I don't take these drugs but I know I can't get it up if the girl is mediocre. Been this way since my early 30s.I just use Kamagra for recreational use, don't need it for sex. I have not found a lady for whom I couldn't get it up, but that may be due to my selection criteria. Maybe a 300 pounder would cause my problems.
The issue I face is time, if its a short Mexican session, I may opt for a HJ or BJ to finish on time. If I don't face a time constraint, I can actually finish sooner.
On my last time in Thailand, I was there for 3 months, and had sex frequently with a longtime barfine. Her deal was that she wanted to finish before I did, so if I finished before her, it was the end of the world. So I had to hang in there until she finished or gave up trying. Typically, I would finish within 3 minutes of her letting me know she was done. Never used Kamagra over the 3 months.
Maybe that will change as I get older.
HorseTrader
05-06-21, 08:06
Can you guys forego these drugs and get it up if the girl is hot enough? I don't take these drugs but I know I can't get it up if the girl is mediocre. Been this way since my early 30s.At age 50 I didn't need boner pills, but sometimes used them to delay my finish. By age 60 I needed a pill for sessions #2 and #3 of the day. By age 63 a 3rd session of the day was seldom possible, regardless of pills or girl hotness. At age 66 I started to prefer a pill for session #1, unless I hadn't had sex in at least 2 days. Now I'm even older and use a pill every time, just to make sure it works.
The hotter non-moms seem to have the tightest pussies, so being rock hard is absolutely necessary. They can usually get me hard without a pill, but not hard enough to penetrate many times with power. Need a pill for extra tight pussies even if the girl is hot and does everything right.
Using a condom also makes the pill more necessary.
As Eih Tooms mentioned, a trace of the pill might last some time. For me, Viagra will be very effective for about 20-24 hours and is still noticeable at 48 hours (including the nasty side effects). Cialis lasts much longer. I'll use 100 mg for my first day in Thailand and hope to get 2 pops. Subsequent days I'll take 50 mg and get either 1 or 2 pops.
I just use Kamagra for recreational use, don't need it for sex. Care to explain. I don't understand any pharmacological uses apart from sex.
Although an old tramp wandering around the mall in a dirty mac comes to mind?
Danny Duck
05-06-21, 10:23
Seen the most Horrible bargirl in Pattaya last night. Livestream Playpen.
It what you think of when you read here about 500 baht girl.
OMG!
Explorer8939
05-06-21, 10:33
Care to explain. I don't understand any pharmacological uses apart from sex.
Although an old tramp wandering around the mall in a dirty mac comes to mind?Or an old tramp wandering around a bar filled with naked women.
Banana Boi
05-06-21, 22:50
Seen the most Horrible bargirl in Pattaya last night. Livestream Playpen.If we Livestream today it doesn't mean we are going to spot her as she may not be working and getting a nose job, eyelids done, liposuction, etc. That way maybe she can charge 550 baht. Her name or number could have helped too. Some guys on here may think your 500 baht girl is hot.
You could have at least made a screenshot for us and posted it.
Bit Siri.
Danny Duck
05-06-21, 23:11
If we Livestream today it doesn't mean we are going to spot her as she may not be working and getting a nose job, eyelids done, liposuction, etc. That way maybe she can charge 550 baht. Her name or number could have helped too. Some guys on here may think your 500 baht girl is hot.
You could have at least made a screenshot for us and posted it.
Bit Siri.I gave a critique of Desire Benz vs. Foxy BiMint recently. I don't know why it didn't get approved for viewing here.
One main theme going on. It's so hard to support a Girl. The bars following in the footsteps of immigration. Too complicated to buy a $6 drink.
1. Join Nightwish site.
2. Join Transfer Wise.
3. Fund transfer Wise.
4. Email bar.
McDonald's doesn't do that. Buy Dollar burger check out as Guest.
Can you guys forego these drugs and get it up if the girl is hot enough? I don't take these drugs but I know I can't get it up if the girl is mediocre. Been this way since my early 30s.A weekend pill, Tadalafil, will give me an extra confidence in action. Whatever happens in the bed the the anatomic action of the organ(erection) will be steady and stable. My experience.
Can you guys forego these drugs and get it up if the girl is hot enough? I don't take these drugs but I know I can't get it up if the girl is mediocre. Been this way since my early 30s.In my mid-50's and it's never a problem for the first pop, but I like 90 minutes sessions and want to pop twice so having a little bit of help there is always a good thing.
Plush Tiger
05-07-21, 14:59
But have to mention her Shanghai squeeze was the most amazing I have ever experienced. Love your prose, reads like a movie. I have been on a quest for finding woman practicing this noble art, but the two practitioners are far and few between the best I could find as a mild grip and there were Thai WG based in Dubai. If members confirm that this is a bit more in Thailand, I will make sure to reactivate my detective skills to find the gems who practice it on my next trip.
Thanks!
I thought I would add my 2 cents (maybe less) worth in this conversation. First I am 80 years old but take care of myself, workout, etc. , but am told I look about mid 60's. Maybe people are just being kind? Anyway I visit China (before Covid) 4 to 5 times per year for my business. I have tried many of the mongering escapades available in China (oh, for the good old days in ChangAn or ChangPing), and find my my preferred style of entertainment is a KTV. Take you time, get to know your companion, sing, dance, play games, drink, and then get back to hotel or apartment with your choice of the night.
I usually take 50 MG of V sometime in the KTV and then I am ready for the later fun. I may take another 50 MG back at the hotel. Being average in the penis area, I have never had any problem of invading paradise. One pop is about all I am good for at night, but if the girl is really good there can be another after about 1 hour rest time. Morning will usually bring another pop if I work at it.
My routine is to arrive in the Chinese Hotel after about 30 hours of leaving the USA. I will message a regular to meet me after I arrive which, by the time I check in, is about midnight. A nice shower and then a romp and pop, and get ready for work the next morning. Rest time after a day at work then KTV time with my friends. My record, a couple years ago, was 10 different girls in ten days. Don't know if I could manage that now, age does catch up with you no matter how we fight it.
If I want a massage, it is a veggie massage, next in line for a quickie doesn't do anything for me and why would I waste a pop on a HJ.
So overall, my suggestion is: (for us older mongers): Take your time, enjoy what you have, try 1/2 a V or see or K fairly early in the evening, then the other half maybe 1/2 hour before action. Works for this 80 year old.
Love your prose, reads like a movie. I have been on a quest for finding woman practicing this noble art, but the two practitioners are far and few between the best I could find as a mild grip and there were Thai WG based in Dubai. If members confirm that this is a bit more in Thailand, I will make sure to reactivate my detective skills to find the gems who practice it on my next trip.
Thanks!Very few Thai gals kegel it seems.
Lucky Nuts
05-08-21, 04:56
Can you guys forego these drugs and get it up if the girl is hot enough? I don't take these drugs but I know I can't get it up if the girl is mediocre. Been this way since my early 30s.Two years ago I pulled the hottest girl from an apartment in Kyiv and walked her back to my own apartment a few blocks away. She whispered to me "I've never done this before". I said whaaaaat? You've never had sex with a guy? She laughed and said "no of course I've had sex but never had sex for money before, this is my first night working in the apartment". Wow I was happy and excited. Had her put on lingerie as I do with most of the girls I see. We got into the bed and started to kiss and play and suddenly I realized I didn't get hard. AT ALL! OM f-ing G. I forgot to take a pill before I went over to pick out the girl. Brainfart! I told her I just want to kiss and cuddle since this was her "first time". She thought I was one hell of a gentleman LOL if she only knew. After we finished and she went into the bathroom I quickly popped a pill. Then told her I wanted to walk her back to the apartment with my umbrella since it was drizzling. Then I went back upstairs "for a beer". Picked out another girl that was nowhere near as attractive as the first. Got her back to my own apartment and when we got on the bed I was hard as a teenager. The pills have changed my life. Doubt I would be in this hobby without them. I buy them in Medellin where generic Viagra is about a dollar per 100 MG right now. I use 50 MG one hour before the action. Once I bought pills from the street vendors in Pattaya and I shouldn't have bought so many because I had to throw them in the garbage. They did nothing for me so clearly they were just fakes in fancy packaging. I'm the perfect guinea pig to test fakes from real ones LOL.
Banana Boi
05-08-21, 05:22
Once I bought pills from the street vendors in Pattaya and I shouldn't have bought so many because I had to throw them in the garbage. They did nothing for me so clearly they were just fakesLike many medications, don't these "drugs" lose their effectiveness if they are exposed to extreme heat?
Be careful about carrying "medication" without a prescription over borders. At least learn which medication and quantity are allowed in each country. Not sure if these PEDs count but better safe than sorry. Singapore and Indonesia come to mind as two countries with the harshest penalties.
Lucky Nuts
05-08-21, 05:39
Like many medications, don't these "drugs" lose their effectiveness if they are exposed to extreme heat?
Be careful about carrying "medication" without a prescription over borders. At least learn which medication are allowed in each country. Not sure if these PEDs count but better safe than sorry. Singapore and Indonesia come to mind as two countries with the harshest penalties.No idea about the effect of heat but I doubt that was the problem. I'm quite sure I got took and will never buy outside of a pharmacy again.
Guess I got lucky to not get checked as I traveled to those counties with some pills. I know Singapore has some strange rules like no chewing gum but I'd be surprised if ED pills are not allowed any country in the world since the ruling class would want them as well. I worry most when carrying larger quantities from Colombia back to the USA but they don't ask questions about ED drugs and I've never been searched.
So overall, my suggestion is: (for us older mongers): Take your time, enjoy what you have, try 1/2 a V or see or K fairly early in the evening, then the other half maybe 1/2 hour before action. Works for this 80 year old.Excellent narration and highly encouraging back up. Thank you sir.
Like many medications, don't these "drugs" lose their effectiveness if they are exposed to extreme heat?
The Indian vendor ushered me into his back room for me to see for myself what he had on offer (not just boner pills, also vibrators, watches etc.). The air-conditioning was impeccable. Probably superior to that of many high-street pharmacies.
I've just popped one of my newly-bought "Levitras". Results should be in any minute know.
On another note, ExpressVPN ceased to work on AIS's WiFi today. Had been having problems on and off these last days. Support asked me to change the protocol to Lightway UDP. Seems to work. No VNP, no xHamster lol.
P.S. Results just in. These Levitras are very weak. Will try 2 next time. Weaker than the old ones.
HorseTrader
05-08-21, 08:37
Like many medications, don't these "drugs" lose their effectiveness if they are exposed to extreme heat?
I once unintentionally left a bottle of Viagra in my car for about a week during the hot summer. The sun must have heated the pills to be well above proper storage temperature for quite some time. Those pills worked without issue.
Years ago I stock piled Viagra because I didn't know when my insurance would stop paying for them. Those pills worked fine at least 5 years beyond their expiration date.
LittleBigMan
05-08-21, 12:40
The Indian vendor ushered me into his back room for me to see for myself what he had on offer (not just boner pills, also vibrators, watches etc.). The air-conditioning was impeccable. Probably superior to that of many high-street pharmacies.
I've just popped one of my newly-bought "Levitras". Results should be in any minute know.
On another note, ExpressVPN ceased to work on AIS's WiFi today. Had been having problems on and off these last days. Support asked me to change the protocol to Lightway UDP. Seems to work. No VNP, no xHamster lol.
P.S. Results just in. These Levitras are very weak. Will try 2 next time. Weaker than the old ones.I've never liked taking the viagra pill so years back and I mean years told to give Kamagra Gel it worked fairly well but the majority of the time it gave me a headache, felt after like I had a vise around my eyes and forehead so I cut back and took half and threw the rest away. Another problem once at a GoGo, I BF went to the bathroom in the private stall pull out my gel pack while trying to open it shot all over my shirt.
A few years back a friend who traveled to India a lot for business brought be back some samples of Tadalia and another similar to Kamagra or the other way around. They were 8-10 strips kept in a small plastic container all you had to do was put the strip in your mouth and it would melt real easy effective didn't have any of the side effects at least for me. The big drawback I would put the plastic container in the refrigerator they ended up sticking together I would need to peel them off each other but it was worth it. Thereafter lost contact try looking everywhere in Bangkok and Pattaya for them told later only in India?
Next time you venture ask is they ever heard of the product basically it was like those Listerin breath strips which I think they discontinue for the same reason.
I once unintentionally left a bottle of Viagra in my car for about a week during the hot summer. The sun must have heated the pills to be well above proper storage temperature for quite some time. Those pills worked without issue.
Years ago I stock piled Viagra because I didn't know when my insurance would stop paying for them. Those pills worked fine at least 5 years beyond their expiration date.I agree some pharmaceuticals can continue to be effective if stored at sub-optimal conditions, or past their expected expiration dates.
But for those who regularly buy off the street: why take a chance if the pharmacy price and the street vendor price is the same? With a legit pharmacy you could reasonably expect better handling and storage, and that the product is not fake.
SL.
Explorer8939
05-08-21, 23:37
I agree some pharmaceuticals can continue to be effective if stored at sub-optimal conditions, or past their expected expiration dates.
But for those who regularly buy off the street: why take a chance if the pharmacy price and the street vendor price is the same? With a legit pharmacy you could reasonably expect better handling and storage, and that the product is not fake.
SL.Pharmacy price for Kamagra - 1200 baht.
Street price for Kamagra - 800 baht.
Banana Boi
05-08-21, 23:58
Pharmacy price for Kamagra - 1200 baht.
Street price for Kamagra - 800 baht.How many pills and what dosage were you getting for 1200 baht? Jelly or pills?
How many pills and what dosage were you getting for 1200 baht? Jelly or pills?I bought a box of 50 100 MG Kamagra jelly for 800 baht from the street vendor on Sukhumvit in Bangkok a couple of years ago. I have not seen any 50 pills box.
Lucky Nuts
05-09-21, 04:12
Yes, of course. The girl is by far the most powerful trigger to getting and maintaining an erection. But looks alone won't work. She also needs to have a nice touch, kiss and know how to apply them. If the girl has that skill and applies it properly, reasonable compromises can be made on looks and still get the job done.
But at my age even if all the elements are there in the girl I'm going to take a boner pill if I have been having sessions to completion three days in a row already, just to make sure. Living in Bangkok it iis rare for me to go more than 2 days in a row without a session to completion. So I am taking boner pills at some point during the week and therefore can't really say with certainty what it is like to have no traces at all of active ingredient in my system.Hi ET. I was following the Thai forums closely last summer as I expected to spend winter of 2021 between BKK and Pattaya. But alas Covid changed my plans and I quit reading the forums. I recall you had just started a testosterone treatment about a year ago. Could you please provide a synopsis of how that worked out for you and if you continue today and would recommend it to others?
Hi ET. I was following the Thai forums closely last summer as I expected to spend winter of 2021 between BKK and Pattaya. But alas Covid changed my plans and I quit reading the forums. I recall you had just started a testosterone treatment about a year ago. Could you please provide a synopsis of how that worked out for you and if you continue today and would recommend it to others?Sure. I did 3 of the 90 day injections at the HE Clinic and my testosterone level, which started out normal for a man of any age, got to be very high so I did not get a 4th injection after that. It has now been more than 2 months since my last injection.
My goal had been to increase my libido a tad considering all the opportunities to help ladies in financial need these days and not to solve or cure a medical problem or lack of normal libido for a man of my age, 68.
Perhaps that is why I did not feel a significant difference in my randiness or horniness during the treatments. And that was another reason I stopped getting the injections. I felt only a very subtle improvement in pleasure and urgency to fuck, which could just as well have been nothing more than a psychological effect. But not enough for me to justify continuing the treatments.
Also, any improvement I did feel at times seemed much more the result of another factor I have mentioned lately; being with the right lady with the right touch.
I now believe more than ever that the right lady, one who is either good at her job or simply wants to be good for me because she likes me, likes having sex with me and wants to be good at it is far and away the most important factor in getting me interested, up, ready, in and off in the best way possible. More important than the injections, the boner pills, anything.
I did not suffer any negative side effects so there is no reason for me to recommend against the treatments for anyone who thinks he might benefit from them. And it is always possible I might resume the injections someday for that reason as well.
DzikaBomba
05-09-21, 15:34
I bought a box of 50 100 MG Kamagra jelly for 800 baht from the street vendor on Sukhumvit in Bangkok a couple of years ago. I have not seen any 50 pills box.I bought these fake Viagra several times in Pattaya from the Belly Shop street vendors. Paid them 500 THB for the box with 30 Pills and they work great!
Would buy them again every time.
They also have fake Levitra in these same sized bottles for sale.
Explorer8939
05-09-21, 15:59
How many pills and what dosage were you getting for 1200 baht? Jelly or pills?Kamagra jelly is 50 to the box.
Loads of "women" out on Soi Buakhow tonight. At least, they looked like women.
No lack of closed massage shops with one lady sitting outside looking for customers.
Danny Duck
05-09-21, 18:47
Desire Bar soi 6 must be more profitable livestreaming than regular operation.
No way are those girls in real life getting huge amounts of drinks bought.
Online it's like a drink buying factory.
Bill Miami
05-10-21, 01:12
Pharmacy price for Kamagra - 1200 baht.
Street price for Kamagra - 800 baht.I pay 200 for a package of 4.
Banana Boi
05-10-21, 03:55
I pay 200 for a package of 4.When my friends come I get them Kamagra pills at the same price. That works out to be 50 baht per pill but the pills can be cut in half so it's 25 baht per use. No one has complained of ineffective or fake pills from my pharmacy.
At 1200 baht for 50 Kamagra Jelly that works out to be 24 baht per use. I assume you can't split the jelly.
Is one more potent than the other?
I bought these fake Viagra several times in Pattaya from the Belly Shop street vendors. Paid them 500 THB for the box with 30 Pills and they work great!
After you cut them in half that's only 8 baht per use!
Where is Belly Shop? Never heard of it.
At 1200 baht for 50 Kamagra Jelly that works out to be 24 baht per use. I assume you can't split the jelly.
Is one more potent than the other?
Another BM here suggested to dilute it in water. I did that but it is more about convenience and I don't need more than 50 MG. I think it is as effective except I get less red eyes. I remember that the pill form generic is a lot cheaper in one popular pharmacy in Tijuana too. You can also order the pills direct from India at lower price.
Where is Belly Shop? Never heard of it.I think belly shop is about the street vendors carrying things in the belly tray. He he.
What is the Kamagra gelly? Is it an applicator or sublingual or chewable capsule. Never heard about it.
Explorer8939
05-10-21, 07:40
I think belly shop is about the street vendors carrying things in the belly tray. He he.
What is the Kamagra gelly? Is it an applicator or sublingual or chewable capsule. Never heard about it.It's in a container like for McDonald's ketchup, I don't know what to call it.
Oops, they have changed the container. Now it has a solid backing. You fold the backing, and it splits open in the middle, and the jelly pops out a bit.
Explorer8939
05-10-21, 07:42
Live streaming doesn't produce money for the ladies as much as you might think. I watched a show recently, and there were long stretches with no customers.
The people in charge have to watch out for idiots, in order to block them.
Danny Duck
05-10-21, 10:04
Live streaming doesn't produce money for the ladies as much as you might think. I watched a show recently, and there were long stretches with no customers.
The people in charge have to watch out for idiots, in order to block them.So sad their payment system is Outrageous complex. Ez peasy to increase sales.
A new girl Som showed up at Foxy last night. Quite attractive. Lighter skin. Bigger than Small girls so common. LOL.
DzikaBomba
05-10-21, 11:03
Where is Belly Shop? Never heard of it.There where always some guys in LK Metro Area selling these things from there Belly in 2019. In my Language its called Belly Shop haha. For Understanding I added a Picture.
These Fake Levitra I also bought from them for 500 THB for one Bottle with 30 Pills and they also work great!
Banana Boi
05-11-21, 04:05
1. Join Nightwish site.
2. Join Transfer Wise.
3. Fund transfer Wise.
4. Email bar.
So sad their payment system is Outrageous complex. This is "Outrageous complex"? It would take you 5-10 minutes max! If you have good multitasking skills you could do it at the same time you are jerking off.
How do you propose it be done? Make a suggestion to Mr. Flowers.
Bit Siri
Danny Duck
05-11-21, 05:42
This is "Outrageous complex"? It would take you 5-10 minutes max! If you have good multitasking skills you could do it at the same time you are jerking off.
How do you propose it be done? Make a suggestion to Mr. Flowers.
Bit SiriStreamlabs.
One site. Order your Groceries, check out with Visa -Done.
I have to desire to be a Nightwish Member. LOL.
Bill Miami
05-11-21, 09:36
Since all you guys have been talking about it, I decided to go on a few of the and ask if any of them wanted a date. I said I would tip them good and pay for the taxi. But, I don't think my message every got through to the girls, which of course sucks.
This is "Outrageous complex"? It would take you 5-10 minutes max! If you have good multitasking skills you could do it at the same time you are jerking off.
How do you propose it be done? Make a suggestion to Mr. Flowers.
Bit SiriThe Soi 6 management and Nightwish group don't realize they are opening up Pandora's Box when they introduced the live streaming. The girls will catch on and will find guys outside the country to upload content or use a VPN to bypass all the Thai laws. If it's easier to make money online on their own time, they will make the jump. Transfer wise was a secret that should have been kept silent. Control the minds, you control their bodies. Every true playa and pimp knows this shit. How obvious is that to keep those who blinded by truth, in the dark? It's more fun.
Soi 6 girl Fai doing porn. Guess who helped set her up?
https://onlyfans.com/whatthefai69
Danny Duck
05-11-21, 20:53
The Soi 6 management and Nightwish group don't realize they are opening up Pandora's Box when they introduced the live streaming. The girls will catch on and will find guys outside the country to upload content or use a VPN to bypass all the Thai laws. If it's easier to make money online on their own time, they will make the jump. Transfer wise was a secret that should have been kept silent. Control the minds, you control their bodies. Every true playa and pimp knows this shit. How obvious is that to keep those who blinded by truth, in the dark? It's more fun.
Soi 6 girl Fai doing porn. Guess who helped set her up?
https://onlyfans.com/whatthefai69Online sex has its place no Doubt.
Just like anything most Girls won't be able to cut it, nothing EZ about making money.
I'll spend 1,000 $ in real life in Bangkok. How much have I spent online- Bumpkins (Nothing).
I think work from home is Overrated. Way overrated.
TourduMonde
05-11-21, 22:08
It's in a container like for McDonald's ketchup, I don't know what to call it.
British people would call it a sachet. There is no specific American word, it's just a packet.
British people would call it a sachet. There is no specific American word, it's just a packet.We, Americans call it ketchup packet.
Online sex has its place no Doubt.
Just like anything most Girls won't be able to cut it, nothing EZ about making money.
I'll spend 1,000 $ in real life in Bangkok. How much have I spent online- Bumpkins (Nothing).
I think work from home is Overrated. Way overrated.I am pretty sure that market has a limited audience.
Like you, I've spent a big zero in the 25+ years I've been mongering. Now, if you were to ask me how much I spent on live mongering, it's a different story.
Explorer8939
05-12-21, 01:48
Online sex has its place no Doubt.
Just like anything most Girls won't be able to cut it, nothing EZ about making money.
I'll spend 1,000 $ in real life in Bangkok. How much have I spent online- Bumpkins (Nothing).
I think work from home is Overrated. Way overrated.I am spending time watching ladies in Pattaya live-streaming. As in, I am watching them live, not on the Internet. So, if I like one of them, I just buy them a drink, or enough drinks until they are naked, and we go to the room next door. That seems to be more fun than watching them online.
I can see the screen where the customers buy the ladies drinks, there are not as many orders as you might think.
Banana Boi
05-12-21, 04:11
So, if I like one of them, I just buy them a drink, or enough drinks until they are naked, and we go to the room next door. I read here it's next to impossible to sign up to buy them drinks!
Danny Duck
05-12-21, 06:00
A guy 5 feet from the girls should have no problem buying Drinkie. LOL.
Besides guys telling girls how Beautiful they are. Think all of us are Hansum boy. LOL.
The topic du jour is how much of a Rear end pain it is to buy a Drink.
The Soi 6 management and Nightwish group don't realize they are opening up Pandora's Box when they introduced the live streaming. The girls will catch on and will find guys outside the country to upload content or use a VPN to bypass all the Thai laws. If it's easier to make money online on their own time, they will make the jump. Transfer wise was a secret that should have been kept silent. Control the minds, you control their bodies. Every true playa and pimp knows this shit. How obvious is that to keep those who blinded by truth, in the dark? It's more fun.
Soi 6 girl Fai doing porn. Guess who helped set her up?
https://onlyfans.com/whatthefai69For many of those paying to watch these streams it's an inadequate substitute for visiting the bars and once it's possible to return you will find many of these steams closing down as income plummets and the girls start to earn money in the bars. Streaming worked for a few girls before covid and it will return to those levels.
I personally can't really understand the paid online / cam / pic sex, especially as free porn is plentiful everywhere. Would not work for me, but to each of their own.
However, based on my experiences in past few weeks, there are actually quite a few gals that live out of that in Pattaya now. Just last night had a regular (works in Soi 6 normally) stay with me overnight, just dropped her to room couple of hours ago. She was complaining she can't sleep has her roommate works online all nights (customers in Europe), and indeed she slept like a pig all night. Kind of funny. Similar case with another (non-regular) one about 10 days ago. Some in TF are declining real dates and say sorry only cam or photos.
So there really is demand for that stuff, and some providers specializing on that market segment. However I would also expect that many will get bored of that and return to bars once they open as they can not resist the fun and friends there.
Online sex has its place no Doubt.
Just like anything most Girls won't be able to cut it, nothing EZ about making money.
I'll spend 1,000 $ in real life in Bangkok. How much have I spent online- Bumpkins (Nothing).
I think work from home is Overrated. Way overrated.
I personally can't really understand the paid online / cam / pic sex, especially as free porn is plentiful everywhere. Would not work for me, but to each of their own.
However, based on my experiences in past few weeks, there are actually quite a few gals that live out of that in Pattaya now. Just last night had a regular (works in Soi 6 normally) stay with me overnight, just dropped her to room couple of hours ago. She was complaining she can't sleep has her roommate works online all nights (customers in Europe), and indeed she slept like a pig all night. Kind of funny. Similar case with another (non-regular) one about 10 days ago. Some in TF are declining real dates and say sorry only cam or photos.
So there really is demand for that stuff, and some providers specializing on that market segment. However I would also expect that many will get bored of that and return to bars once they open as they can not resist the fun and friends there.
For many of those paying to watch these streams it's an inadequate substitute for visiting the bars and once it's possible to return you will find many of these steams closing down as income plummets and the girls start to earn money in the bars. Streaming worked for a few girls before covid and it will return to those levels.And there are people who can't personally really understand our paid pussy concept, especially as free pussy is plentiful everywhere as well. If there is a better way that allows for more freedom, anybody in any walk of life will follow this lead. We are just silly to assume these girls miss and enjoy the loud same repeated music, the 10 day contracts, bossy mamasans, the cat fights or girl drama, drinking 30-50 shots a night, and fucking 2-3 random strangers a night. I know of a shit load Go Go bar girls who are not coming back. It's not that YouTube streaming or Soi 6 bars streaming that one has to worry about. It's ONLYFANS. Before COVID, few girls would put up the hassle to have to dodge the Thai laws on stuff like that. But now, they have alot of help outside the country from guys helping them set up, uploading adult content, blocking (inside) Thailand access, and transferring money back to them. Why would some of these return to the bars?
Their game is pull money and find suckers who will send them money, even for used panties. Now they have a world audience to find these guys. When you see the number of "LIKES" on a girl's ONLYFANS page, multiply that by her monthly subscription rate. That's' the minimum she gets with lots of leeway for more money when they open a video or pic. Lord forbid, they open a chat session, fall in love, and send her money on the side. This is all game, even online. Going back to the old ways after you find the fountain of youth, is like some of us getting married to somebody our own age and setting down. WTF? I see that NightWish has taken upon themselves to control more aspects of the livestreams with their own site. Management obvious want the stupid girls to stay stupid, so there is more control. Feel sorry if they ever piss off a girl or whistleblower because we are still in lockdown and no gatherings allowed.
Since I have been here 14 or so months now, there have been more people and customers coming into Thailand, but less and less Go Go Bar girls. And ONLYFANS accounts for Thailand has shot up tremendously. So what does that tell you? Technology eventually catches up, all it takes is something big to force this change. As a change maker, COVID-19 is no joke. And before anybody says vaccines will fix everything, they better look at Thailand "immigration and tourism and open border policy" versus USA or anywhere else. Blocking India has tremendous effect and if you don't know by now, this thing we call "LIFE" is all connected. So what the price of tea in China or what they eat in a wet market, does have an effect on the rest of the world.
Mr Enternational
05-12-21, 14:22
I personally can't really understand the paid online / cam / pic sex, especially as free porn is plentiful everywhere. Would not work for me, but to each of their own.
Maybe because it seems more personalized? You can watch Lebron James play basketball on TV for free. Would you be willing to pay to watch him play if he spoke to you before the game and before he hit a shot (pun intended), he looked in the camera and said Knobrm this one is for you!?
There is some website or app where you can pay and celebrities will send you a personalized video. Weird to me because I see celebrities all the time so I am like who cares. So the online cam pics sex thing is probably weird to you because you fuck chicks all the time.
I have said before that I was with a chick in Pattaya and she showed me her paypal where guys in Pattaya where sending her money for the online cam sex pics thing. I could not wrap my head around it since they could just come over and actually fuck her for less money.
Since all you guys have been talking about it, I decided to go on a few of the and ask if any of them wanted a date. I said I would tip them good and pay for the taxi. But, I don't think my message every got through to the girls, which of course sucks.What could work is if you already had a show girl as one of your regulars, then you'd ask her to connect you with one of the other girls. I have such a regular from one of the bars. I (over)pay her 2000 for short time (I otherwise pay 1500). So far I haven't mustered courage to ask her for connections with any of her bar roommates (there's only one of these I find attractive, could be a post-op considering her size though). To be frank I'm not hard-up for girls right now, I'm content with rotating my 4 or 5 regulars. I'm more hard-up for swimming and dining out. Life now is no different from ASQ except I have a female visitor each day. My spirits are even lower than during ASQ as I have nothing exciting any more to look forward to in TH before I fly back home to get my jabs among other things.
To add to my misery ExpressVPN has let me down for up to 3 hours in a row these last days. Unable to connect to the condo WiFi. Works fine on 4G of the same provider though. VPN support has replied but couldn't solve the problem. No VPN no PornHub.
I personally can't really understand the paid online / cam / pic sex, especially as free porn is plentiful everywhere. Would not work for me, but to each of their own.In the past I must have blown about 30k dollars on Niteflirt over the course of 10 years. I was spending much more on Niteflirt than I would calling escorts to my hotel as these were not expensive locally. Phonesex only, no cam. Had the time of my life. I was getting to all sorts of shit behind my computer screen so it was better the woman didn't even see me. All kinds of real and virtual sex have their niches.
...To add to my misery ExpressVPN has let me down for up to 3 hours in a row these last days. Unable to connect to the condo WiFi. Works fine on 4G of the same provider though. VPN support has replied but couldn't solve the problem. No VPN no PornHub...Sorry to hear that. It sucks!
Danny Duck
05-12-21, 17:51
Don't Fool yourselves. The vast majority of girls are not making money live-streaming. This same majority of girls also don't make much in regular bars.
For the girl it's not the Venue that makes a difference.
It's that Attractive / desirability concept. As a rule if you are a five or less You ain't going to make money selling Sex.
Banana Boi
05-12-21, 22:02
Girls must make a ton of money from OnlyFans. I know a couple of strippers who have pivoted since COVID shut down the strip clubs. First they went on MFC since they saw models not as young or pretty as them earning well over 100k USD per year. Now they only go on MFC from time to time to get guys to pay for videos and photosets they sell on OnlyFans. Making a killing.
Danny Duck
05-12-21, 23:11
Girls must make a ton of money from OnlyFans. I know a couple of strippers who have pivoted since COVID shut down the strip clubs. First they went on MFC since they saw models not as young or pretty as them earning well over 100k USD per year. Now they only go on MFC from time to time to get guys to pay for videos and photosets they sell on OnlyFans. Making a killing.While Bella Thorne managed to make more than $1 million in revenue in only 24 hours, the majority of accounts take home less than $145 per month. The average earnings is only slightly more at $180 per month. So, sadly, most performers do not make a lot of money via OnlyFans. Apr 26,2021.
Hahaha. Hahaha. Make it Rain Thai girls.
Maybe because it seems more personalized? You can watch Lebron James play basketball on TV for free. Would you be willing to pay to watch him play if he spoke to you before the game and before he hit a shot (pun intended), he looked in the camera and said Knobrm this one is for you!?
There is some website or app where you can pay and celebrities will send you a personalized video. Weird to me because I see celebrities all the time so I am like who cares. So the online cam pics sex thing is probably weird to you because you fuck chicks all the time.
I have said before that I was with a chick in Pattaya and she showed me her paypal where guys in Pattaya where sending her money for the online cam sex pics thing. I could not wrap my head around it since they could just come over and actually fuck her for less money.Well, its more than that. It's got to be real to work for me, guess I am old school. In addition to that I am picky for both the appearance of the girl being my style, as well as the girl being (or at least acting well to be.) into it to work out for me. Anything non-real just won't cut it. Ordering from TF is hit an miss to me due to that as sometimes reality is not as pics, or the girl simply is not into it, just a dead fish wanting money. Last time about a week ago had to stop action and ask her go as just would not work as she did not like what I like and was like a dead fish.
Not into sports nor celebrities either, so would not pay for such. But I kind of understand some people pay to watch for nice looking things, I myself can pay a ticket to car / hotrod / muscle car show just to look at the 'porn' of mechanical beauty. But the experience is not sexual at all, something different. But would not pay to see a video or pic a Thai girl as can see the same for free if I like, or when they come by.
But as said, to each of their own, well understand people have VERY different habits in this area and can not criticize, just wonder. Some even fuck dogs!
And there are people who can't personally really understand our paid pussy concept, especially as free pussy is plentiful everywhere as well. If there is a better way that allows for more freedom, anybody in any walk of life will follow this lead. We are just silly to assume these girls miss and enjoy the loud same repeated music, the 10 day contracts, bossy mamasans, the cat fights or girl drama, drinking 30-50 shots a night, and fucking 2-3 random strangers a night. I know of a shit load Go Go bar girls who are not coming back. It's not that YouTube streaming or Soi 6 bars streaming that one has to worry about. It's ONLYFANS. Before COVID, few girls would put up the hassle to have to dodge the Thai laws on stuff like that. But now, they have alot of help outside the country from guys helping them set up, uploading adult content, blocking (inside) Thailand access, and transferring money back to them. Why would some of these return to the bars?
Their game is pull money and find suckers who will send them money, even for used panties. Now they have a world audience to find these guys. When you see the number of "LIKES" on a girl's ONLYFANS page, multiply that by her monthly subscription rate. That's' the minimum she gets with lots of leeway for more money when they open a video or pic. Lord forbid, they open a chat session, fall in love, and send her money on the side. This is all game, even online. Going back to the old ways after you find the fountain of youth, is like some of us getting married to somebody our own age and setting down. WTF? I see that NightWish has taken upon themselves to control more aspects of the livestreams with their own site. Management obvious want the stupid girls to stay stupid, so there is more control. Feel sorry if they ever piss off a girl or whistleblower because we are still in lockdown and no gatherings allowed.
Since I have been here 14 or so months now, there have been more people and customers coming into Thailand, but less and less Go Go Bar girls. And ONLYFANS accounts for Thailand has shot up tremendously. So what does that tell you? Technology eventually catches up, all it takes is something big to force this change. As a change maker, COVID-19 is no joke. And before anybody says vaccines will fix everything, they better look at Thailand "immigration and tourism and open border policy" versus USA or anywhere else. Blocking India has tremendous effect and if you don't know by now, this thing we call "LIFE" is all connected. So what the price of tea in China or what they eat in a wet market, does have an effect on the rest of the world.As said in some other post, IF there is a market demand for paid online sex, for sure that market will get served because it can be monetized as volume business. Seems onlyfans has taken enabler role in part of that market now, and covid has given a good kick for that industry.
Even the personalized demand gets served well because there are always girls who not really into the physical game with old dirty farangs and other weirdos. Just can play the act from comfort of their room as long as someone (not me.) pays for it.
But but. Still many girls who absolutely do not want to put anything online, or even to take the risk for it (looking around the room and asking whether you have cams.). Also, many girls who actually are into the real stuff, and many (sure not all) of them quietly looking for BF (or sponsor) as a side task, so not too worried that supply would dry out during my lifetime.
About the paid pussy concept, sure not everyone understand it, and many of those who actually do, won't publicly admit it for their reasons (religion, societal norms, etc). It is just that odds of hooking a different decent looking gal about half your age for few times a week is a bit tough in most parts of the world for free and / or without strings attached. Then whether you like such activity is an other matter, but if you do, paying a bit is the least of the concerns. Anyway in most cases cheaper overall than paying for the less attractive nagging one at home.
Since I have been here 14 or so months now, there have been more people and customers coming into Thailand, but less and less Go Go Bar girls. And ONLYFANS accounts for Thailand has shot up tremendously. So what does that tell you?That there is an alternate universe out there where covid did not hit, and there have been more customers and people going to the Pattaya in that universe in these past 14 months. How do we get to that universe because it's a lot better than this one where travel has been locked down in the last 14 months for the most part.
Finding young attractive talent is tough. The beach has mostly over 30 worn / high mileage talent. Worser and cheaper than Soi 6. The last 2 years Soi 6 talent was in the dumps. No more I can't believe I found a diamond in the rough go go quality chicks. The top 10% talent on Soi 6 this Spring may have been 7's. A lot of girls went home. The only 3 Japanese guys I saw today had hot chicks on the back of their back. Maybe 7.5's. Being picky may mean a week of blue balls. The old days there was quality action as long as you had game looks or baht. Unless you know many chicks it is too much work to recruit talent with bars closed. TF girls are unreliable and the photo doesn't tell the complete story. Soi bukhao has 40/60 masculine lineup. I notice girls only ply their wares on Soi bukhao for 10 minutes and keep it pushing. Less people watching with no dine in option. Soi bukhao you have decide on the talent fast.
A 30 something year old that is okay looking and wants to please is seriously underrated on these boards. Pretty and young is nice and I get the allure. And to each their own. But I like a familiar milfy type that is sweet and GFE. Happy to stay all night and is just fun for a lot less money to boot.
Finding young attractive talent is tough. The beach has mostly over 30 worn / high mileage talent. Worser and cheaper than Soi 6. The last 2 years Soi 6 talent was in the dumps. No more I can't believe I found a diamond in the rough go go quality chicks. The top 10% talent on Soi 6 this Spring may have been 7's. A lot of girls went home. The only 3 Japanese guys I saw today had hot chicks on the back of their back. Maybe 7.5's. Being picky may mean a week of blue balls. The old days there was quality action as long as you had game looks or baht. Unless you know many chicks it is too much work to recruit talent with bars closed. TF girls are unreliable and the photo doesn't tell the complete story. Soi bukhao has 40/60 masculine lineup. I notice girls only ply their wares on Soi bukhao for 10 minutes and keep it pushing. Less people watching with no dine in option. Soi bukhao you have decide on the talent fast.
Explorer8939
05-14-21, 04:26
Lots of gloom and doom here.
The flip side of all this Covid is the ladies who are in Pattaya are eager to please. A few drinks and they get naked as long as there is a little privacy, and the customer isn't an idiot. But, there are no lack of low income types trying to maximize one lady drink per hour. I don't see how 50 baht an hour is going to motivate a bargirl.
I don't expect the bars to re-open before July 1.
A 30 something year old that is okay looking and wants to please is seriously underrated on these boards. Pretty and young is nice and I get the allure. And to each their own. But I like a familiar milfy type that is sweet and GFE. Happy to stay all night and is just fun for a lot less money to boot.Funny you mentioned about this. I am not really into 'milfy' types (as per my perception of the meaning of the word), however over the years I have (unintentionally) shifted towards this 30's category. As you said yes young ones are pretty, and few years ago used them substantially more than lately. Have a habit of circulating regulars, and young regulars tend to either disappear or get older, and some just did not perform to become regulars due to performance or price expectation. Maybe part of the reason of the shift is getting older myself 555.
Being picky with appearance to start with and then sampling enough you can find 30+ types that are pretty good looking that perform well (as they are into it themselves), and as you said they have settled a bit and are happy to stay long without any hurry and not only money in mind, actually very much like a real GFE experience. . . Many actually would be happy to move in.
Value for money is definitely good. Guess my top pick for performance in past couple of years actually is l the 32 yr old narc that I spent time on last year for covid lockdown period, but it seems that case with her is now finally closed.
Then there is the category of the non-working ones, many 30+ 'normal' ladies looking for farang boyfriend. Have been testing this market a bit, however have to admit hit rate for performance is lower there and takes more time. Also, as they are looking for BF, they tend to get serious quickly if there is any chemistry on their side so need to be careful. But this market is not really good unless you live here as it takes time and many only available on weekends or holidays, esp those living in industrial areas around Chonburi and Rayong.
Danny Duck
05-14-21, 08:51
I'm concerned.
Fon is undoubtedly drinkie Superstar of Desire Bar Stream. Usually front and center.
Today they put her in the middle, hard to see her.
She is behind number 43 big titted avg looker, no where drives any sales at all.
What kind of business sense is this?
Today I asked my 2000-Baht bar girl to connect me with a girl from the same bar I pointed out to her on Youtube. A taller girl, rather slim. My 2000-Baht girl confirmed the other girl was "female" in spite of her height but in Thailand that could mean post-op.
Anyway I messaged the girl on Line and got an answer: no. An abrupt if not outrightly rude no.
So no interest in 2000 Baht for short time.
Has that girl enough online fans to keep her in funds? Or is she a post-op (post-ops are notoriously insecure once anything more than showing off is proposed). Or is it just Thailand, where rejection rates -- mine at least -- are high?
A 30 something year old that is okay looking and wants to please is seriously underrated on these boards. Pretty and young is nice and I get the allure. And to each their own. But I like a familiar milfy type that is sweet and GFE. Happy to stay all night and is just fun for a lot less money to boot.
Most girls we assume are "young" are very close to thirty and often on the wrong side of it. Lack of exposure to genuinely young girls for over a decade now plus Asian's natural petiteness creates in mongers the illusion of youth where there is none.
Banana Boi
05-14-21, 12:27
The flip side of all this Covid is the ladies who are in Pattaya are eager to please. A few drinks and they get naked as long as there is a little privacy,Always been the case in the many G clubs and BJ bars in Pattaya. Nothing to do with COVID. No privacy needed. They will all fuck you in the middle of the bar.
Sadly used to be the case on Soi 6 too until that idiot Brit (?) and Brit paper that no one reads ruined it for all of us. The Good Old Days of Soi 6. Very sad.
Most girls we assume are "young" are very close to thirty and often on the wrong side of it.
Most Farang can't tell the age of Asians. Met a very pretty Sensations girl in 2016. One of the best girls I ever met in Thailand. I knew she wasn't 18 or 19. I pinned her around 24. I used to get pats on my back by random guys when I used to walk around town with her. That's how pretty she was. I was floored when she eventually told me she was 37. 37! That was 5 years ago so she would be 42 now. I still think she looks 24! Not a single wrinkle.
Lots of girls say they are 18, 19. 21. They aren't!
Danny Duck
05-14-21, 19:21
Thai Tramps are last to be vaccinated just after Dirt Farangs.
Hahaha.
A guy bought 50 drinks for Sai at Desire today. She was drunk her whole 12 hour shift.
EverythingThai
05-15-21, 04:30
Finding young attractive talent is tough. The beach has mostly over 30 worn / high mileage talent. Worser and cheaper than Soi 6. The last 2 years Soi 6 talent was in the dumps. No more I can't believe I found a diamond in the rough go go quality chicks. The top 10% talent on Soi 6 this Spring may have been 7's. A lot of girls went home. The only 3 Japanese guys I saw today had hot chicks on the back of their back. Maybe 7.5's. Being picky may mean a week of blue balls. The old days there was quality action as long as you had game looks or baht. Unless you know many chicks it is too much work to recruit talent with bars closed. TF girls are unreliable and the photo doesn't tell the complete story. Soi bukhao has 40/60 masculine lineup. I notice girls only ply their wares on Soi bukhao for 10 minutes and keep it pushing. Less people watching with no dine in option. Soi bukhao you have decide on the talent fast.Could you be anymore negative? I personally have had great luck. Perhaps you only want to pay very little money. Up your budget and up the quality. I have not lowered my budget and pay 5000 LT. That gets me 3 shots BB CIP and often the girls don't want to leave the next day. I had one stay for 5 days and I paid her Ann extra 2000 Baht and she was so happy. So 5 days with a stunner 22 for 7000 Baht and fucking all. Ugh this every night.
EverythingThai
05-15-21, 04:31
I'm concerned.
Fon is undoubtedly drinkie Superstar of Desire Bar Stream. Usually front and center.
Today they put her in the middle, hard to see her.
She is behind number 43 big titted avg looker, no where drives any sales at all.
What kind of business sense is this?I prefer the njghtwish group streams. Milk in Toy Box is my favorite. I've been with her server all times before covid.
Banana Boi
05-15-21, 05:05
A guy bought 50 drinks for Sai at Desire today. She was drunk her whole 12 hour shift.From water? You don't actually think these girls drink 50 shots of alcohol, do you? They're professional actresses. No different than they act happy with an old or unattractive man.
Bit Siri.
Mr Enternational
05-15-21, 06:18
From water? You don't actually think these girls drink 50 shots of alcohol, do you? They're professional actresses. No different than they act happy with an old or unattractive man.
Bit Siri.They don't act when I am there. I make sure it is SangSom on the rocks, same as I am drinking They want to put coke or soda in it and I don't let them. Usually watered down apple juice what they are drinking.
Most girls we assume are "young" are very close to thirty and often on the wrong side of it. Lack of exposure to genuinely young girls for over a decade now plus Asian's natural petiteness creates in mongers the illusion of youth where there is none.In my experience the girls from the Kalasin, Nakhon, Surin provinces of Isan look young and clean and they are very submissive too. But most of them are young mothers from their boyfriend. In early 2000 when they come to room they remove the foot wears before entering the room. Then they clean the whole room. But these days things are changed a lot. They have more expectations from the 'customeres'.
HorseTrader
05-15-21, 08:27
Most girls we assume are "young" are very close to thirty and often on the wrong side of it. Lack of exposure to genuinely young girls for over a decade now plus Asian's natural petiteness creates in mongers the illusion of youth where there is none.It sometimes works the opposite, as it did for me in Samui 15 months ago. I bar fined a pretty girl with strong athletic body. Her appearance made me think she was mid 30's. During about our 3rd session, she showed me her ID and it showed she was only 22 (or 23, I forget). On another night I bar finned a spinner from a nearby bar who I assumed was late 20's, that time my resort checked her ID and I asked the guard to confirm "female" and he said "yes, born 1999". So, 20 or 21 years old. The thing both these girls had in common was that they both were mothers.
In time, these girls both demonstrated their age by personalities. To me their appearance seemed older than reality.
On the subject of age, my best professional sex experience of that trip was with a pretty 44 year old bar girl. Over the prior week I bought her one or two drinks on about 3 separate occasions with zero overtures to sex. On about the fourth night I just walked up to her at the bar and invited her to my hotel, paid a small bar fine, and left for a really great session. She acted as if I were her long lost boyfriend who she loved. Memorable session.
Banana Boi
05-15-21, 12:06
They don't act when I am there. I make sure it is SangSom on the rocks, same as I am drinking They want to put coke or soda in it and I don't let them. Usually watered down apple juice what they are drinking.Of course not. Same here. However, I am talking about naive guys who are buying drinks over the internet or tourists who don't know any better. Yes, apple juice! I used to buy one super cute LK Metro gogo girl apple juice lady drinks and didn't care. Her tongue was down my throat too much for her to even have time to sip her drink.
Mr Enternational
05-15-21, 17:57
Of course not. Same here. However, I am talking about naive guys who are buying drinks over the internet or tourists who don't know any better. Yes, apple juice! I never knew until a few years ago when a bunch of us from Pattaya took a trip to Cambodia. I had never been one to buy lady drinks so I could care less what they were drinking. But we were sitting in a bar and my buddy bought a chick a drink. When she got it he tasted it and was like Hello, no. I am not paying for this shit. He made them give her the real alcohol that he thought he was paying for.
So since then, the rare times that I do buy a drink for a chick, I first ask her what she wants, then I make sure it is that, but straight up or on the rocks. I may let her add soda or something later after I know it is really whiskey in the glass.
Danny Duck
05-15-21, 19:39
Poll time.
How many of you who buy girlie drinks are concerned what's in it. LOL.
I could care less. The point of buy drinkie is not to show who is boss. Hahaha.
Isn't it their businesses after all?
Same like the girls tended to loose the watch and ask you to buy them a new on. After the guys went home she goes to the shop and gets some cash back.
Business plan that is.
Explorer8939
05-16-21, 01:11
Poll time.
How many of you who buy girlie drinks are concerned what's in it. LOL.
I could care less. The point of buy drinkie is not to show who is boss. Hahaha.When the ladies want to get "drunk", they will buy a bottle of Sangsom, ice and soda water. That bottle will last all night, because they put in half a shot, and fill the glass with ice and soda water.
Same in the bar, half a shot with lots of soda is the norm.
Banana Boi
05-16-21, 03:06
How many of you who buy girlie drinks are concerned what's in it. LOL.
I could care less. The point of buy drinkie is not to show who is boss. Hahaha.Have you really been to Thailand bars? Why is it important? It's so the girls don't look at you like a chump! Once they know they can pull the drink scam on you then they will conclude you're a loser in life and will be an easy John who is new to the game and will suck dry for all you have. See Tinte's post today.
However, for me personally it's more so the bar is spending money on real alcohol. I'm already not pleased paying over 200 baht for a single lady drink I want to make sure the bar makes as little as possible.
Bit Siri.
When the ladies want to get "drunk", they will buy a bottle of Sangsom, ice and soda water. That bottle will last all night, because they put in half a shot, and fill the glass with ice and soda water.
Same in the bar, half a shot with lots of soda is the norm.A French girl who used to work in so-called "champagne bars" in France told me about a trick girls played not to get drunk (apart from being served from a different bottle than the customer's). They had a small stick like a cocktail stick. They would look the customer straight in the eyes and all the while they would churn the champagne with the stick to bring it to overflow. Girls who got offered cocaine but didn't like cocaine also had a trick of snorting it but not too deep, then blowing it out of their nostrils at the first opportunity (like Bill Clinton who didn't inhale, but this time for real).
At Nana in the bars they did come to me naked (in the old days) and asked for a lady drink. No drinks payed, most of them left. Drinks offerd, they stayed you could play with the pussy and she plays with your dick perhaps gave a BBBJ.
Drinks were less than a beer and I did not care what colored stuff they drunk. Cheap fun.
Most Farang can't tell the age of Asians. Met a very pretty Sensations girl in 2016. One of the best girls I ever met in Thailand. I knew she wasn't 18 or 19. I pinned her around 24. I used to get pats on my back by random guys when I used to walk around town with her. That's how pretty she was. I was floored when she eventually told me she was 37. 37! That was 5 years ago so she would be 42 now. I still think she looks 24! Not a single wrinkle.
Lots of girls say they are 18, 19. 21. They aren't!
Probably true that many who only come here for holiday every now and then, may have difficulty assessing the age due to being distracted by the different 'exotic' appearance of Asians, as well as smaller body frame size. Same as farang who are not familiar with Asians, can not tell which one s Japanese, Filipina, Indo, North Chinese, South Chinese or Thai if a typical one of each is put to a row, they all look the same. But for someone like me with over two decades accross Asia they all look distinct.
This is obviously used by girls to their favor lying their age for the uninformed in trying to up their biz. With the help of thick makeup as an amplifier.
However, for vast majority of girls it is not that difficult to estimate the age bracket of say 5-6 years by looking at the skin around their eyes (after washing their face if too much makeup). Their skin get older just like for caucasians, as simple as that. Yes there are the exceptions who age slower (or faster) than a typical one, but same is true for caucasians also, and sometimes you can have a 35+ yr girl who looks like under 25 (esp if no kids, no smoke, no drink). But this is pretty rare.
Putting aside the smoke and mirrors of different appearance of asians and smaller body frame, I think their aging up to around 30-35 is about same as caucasians. However when the age train continues to move to 35+ and further, in my eyes their skin ageing speeds up compared to caucasians so that Thai women in general look older in their face at 40+ than caucasians.
This may not matter too much for mongers as this bracket is largely filtered out anyway from target group, but is a consideration for middle-aged guys who are considering settling with one in the house. Better choose one who is not much over 30 even if you are older yourself, otherwise you may have a grandma looking girl next to while you still have working system for action.
Danny Duck
05-16-21, 08:48
At Nana in the bars they did come to me naked (in the old days) and asked for a lady drink. No drinks payed, most of them left. Drinks offerd, they stayed you could play with the pussy and she plays with your dick perhaps gave a BBBJ.
Drinks were less than a beer and I did not care what colored stuff they drunk. Cheap fun.Not an insignificant detail.
Drunk girls are useless to a Bar.
There was a post from somebody how to find out a Thai girl age by looking at her I.D. if it is important to you.
Not counting P4 P girls usually young normal girls are more juicy and love frequent sex. Many post pictures when they were young and list young age to get people interested. It is a age old trick. Once you probe into you can usually get the real age. Sometimes if you show no interest they might introduce their young relatives or friends.
Mr Enternational
05-16-21, 18:10
There was a post from somebody how to find out a Thai girl age by looking at her I.D. if it is important to you.LOL. I guess it is the same as the ladyboy dilema. If you really want to know just ask or look at the ID instead of trying to invent all kinds of round about ways of figuring it out.
How old are you? 22.
Monger way: Hmm. She has to be lying. Check the eyes. Check the hands. 22 times 8 divided by 6 minus 12. Must really be 26.
Normal way: I don't believe you. Let me see your ID.
Strange world when a guy has the bravery to ask a chick if he can cum in her mouth, but is terrified of asking to see an ID.
It kind of surprises me that you ask before cumming in mouth. I always assume it's ok and go with that.
LOL. I guess it is the same as the ladyboy dilema. If you really want to know just ask or look at the ID instead of trying to invent all kinds of round about ways of figuring it out.
How old are you? 22.
Monger way: Hmm. She has to be lying. Check the eyes. Check the hands. 22 times 8 divided by 6 minus 12. Must really be 26.
Normal way: I don't believe you. Let me see your ID.
Strange world when a guy has the bravery to ask a chick if he can cum in her mouth, but is terrified of asking to see an ID.
Mr Enternational
05-16-21, 21:42
It kind of surprises me that you ask before cumming in mouth. I always assume it's ok and go with that.I am not saying that I ask. I was just making an example of guys that want a particular thing have no problem asking for that service, but are hesitant to ask to see ID.
There was a post from somebody how to find out a Thai girl age by looking at her I.D. if it is important to you.Anyone deciding to go this route should be aware that internally in Thailand they use the Buddhist calendar, and the current Thai year is 2564.
SL.
HorseTrader
05-16-21, 22:49
Anyone deciding to go this route should be aware that internally in Thailand they use the Buddhist calendar, and the current Thai year is 2564.
SL.The Thai ID cards also have the "farang" date of birth. The other key thing is that "Miss" or "Mrs. " will printed for females. I've been told that "Mr. " will be printed for ladyboys. All that information is written in English.
Explorer8939
05-17-21, 02:04
When the ladies want to get "drunk", they will buy a bottle of Sangsom, ice and soda water. That bottle will last all night, because they put in half a shot, and fill the glass with ice and soda water.
Same in the bar, half a shot with lots of soda is the norm.Which is what happened last night. Some bargirls were looking for a place to hang out, so they came over to my place, bringing their party stuff with them. Lots of street food, a small bottle of Sangsom, ice and soda water. That small bottle lasted 3 hours.
Explorer8939
05-17-21, 02:07
The Thai ID cards also have the "farang" date of birth. The other key thing is that "Miss" or "Mrs. " will printed for females. I've been told that "Mr. " will be printed for ladyboys. All that information is written in English.I once had a bargirl playing the "I love you" routine with me. Unfortunately for her, she had to produce her Thai ID to get into my hotel, and it had her under her married name. Which I used to look up her Facebook account to see her husband.
After a while, I let her know I knew she was married. She quit her bar, and went home to her husband.
Poll time.
How many of you who buy girlie drinks are concerned what's in it. LOL.
I could care less. The point of buy drinkie is not to show who is boss. Hahaha.Some of the girls know the most health damaging aspect if their job, by far, is being expected to drink alcohol to the point of getting drunk every night.
I know a bargirl who asks the bartender to pour the booze lightly on the top of the soda or water in the LD glass, don't mix it. Then she tells her customer she is going to the toilet but just before she goes she takes a big swig of the drink, trying to suck up most of the booze on top, holds it in her mouth until she get to the toilet and then spits it out in the sink.
She can get through a lot of LDs that way without getting so drunk every night her liver is shot by age 40 and she won't find herself "going with the flow" in the room to doing things she would never do to risk unwanted pregnancy and her health otherwise.
Banana Boi
05-17-21, 05:17
Drunk girls are useless to a Bar.No they're not. They pulled in many lady drinks if they're drunk.
Bit Siri.
Unfortunately for her, she had to produce her Thai ID to get into my hotel, and it had her under her married name. Which I used to look up her Facebook account to see her husband.I don't know any Thai girls that use an English real name on Facebook. If they use a real name it would be in Thai. If they use a fake name it's in English for Farang and that account would not have their boyfriend / husband photos.
Banana Boi
05-17-21, 06:22
I've been told that "Mr. " will be printed for ladyboys.
I believe the rule internationally is that a transgender can be Ms or Mr. That would mean a Thai post op can be listed as Ms.
Which is what happened last night. Some bargirls were looking for a place to hang out, so they came over to my place, bringing their party stuff with them. Lots of street food, a small bottle of Sangsom, ice and soda water. That small bottle lasted 3 hours.When did you arrive back in Thailand?
Explorer8939
05-17-21, 09:21
When did you arrive back in Thailand?I returned to Pattaya about 3 weeks ago. It's like the Zombie Apocalypse here, but some people might like it.
Explorer8939
05-17-21, 09:25
No they're not. They pulled in many lady drinks if they're drunk.
Bit Siri.
I don't know any Thai girls that use an English real name on Facebook. If they use a real name it would be in Thai. If they use a fake name it's in English for Farang and that account would not have their boyfriend / husband photos.Concerning the married lady, her Thai ID had "Mrs" before name in English. I had her Facebook account with her English account from that, but she had a Thai name account linked to it.
Houston Player
05-17-21, 09:27
I believe the rule internationally is that a transgender can be Ms or Mr. That would mean a Thai post op can be listed Ms.I don't believe this is true in Thailand the ID must reflect the born as sex.
HorseTrader
05-17-21, 14:26
I had her Facebook account with her English account from that, but she had a Thai name account linked to it.Correct. If you pull that thread by looking at their friends of friends you will find some of these Thai girls have 5 or more Facebook profiles.
Franciscass
05-17-21, 15:56
When you buy a girl in a bar a drink you are paying for her time not necessarily her drinking alcohol. During this interlude you chill chat and decide whether you want to take her home or if you're a groper get your rocks off feeling her up. What's in the drink is completely irrelevant. Think about it. The drink sets you back 150 to 200 baht. If it contains alcohol it will be a shot of cheap Thai whiskey which costs the bar 10 to 15 baht. If the girl doesn't want to drink this rot gut so what. That said I do have some issues with lady drinks.
Overzealous bar girls, more likely mamasans continuously hustling drinks.
The two drinks scam, a shot of liquor with a mixer counted as two drinks.
The girl is off hustling elsewhere as soon as you buy her a drink.
Mr Enternational
05-17-21, 18:03
When you buy a girl in a bar a drink you are paying for her time not necessarily her drinking alcohol. During this interlude you chill chat and decide whether you want to take her home or if you're a groper get your rocks off feeling her up. That said I do have some issues with lady drinks.
The girl is off hustling elsewhere as soon as you buy her a drink.I have said before that if you insist on buying drinks do it as a reward and not a preward. Do all your feeling up shit first and buy the drink after she has earned it.
Danny Duck
05-17-21, 18:04
When you buy a girl in a bar a drink you are paying for her time not necessarily her drinking alcohol. During this interlude you chill chat and decide whether you want to take her home or if you're a groper get your rocks off feeling her up. What's in the drink is completely irrelevant. Think about it. The drink sets you back 150 to 200 baht. If it contains alcohol it will be a shot of cheap Thai whiskey which costs the bar 10 to 15 baht. If the girl doesn't want to drink this rot gut so what. That said I do have some issues with lady drinks.
Overzealous bar girls, more likely mamasans continuously hustling drinks.
The two drinks scam, a shot of liquor with a mixer counted as two drinks.
The girl is off hustling elsewhere as soon as you buy her a drink.This is as accurate a description concerning the world of lady Drinks as you going to get.
Cover two silly points made earlier.
1. Who cares what they drink.
2. You not really sticking it to the Man requiring alcohol be in the Glass. If you hate Thais don't patronize.
Hope that helps.
Danny Duck
05-17-21, 18:08
I have said before that if you insist on buying drinks do it as a reward and not a preward. Do all your feeling up shit first and buy the drink after she has earned it.These claims need to be backed up with photos. You not going to get away with this doing it to Hot girls.
500 batters, I guess.
Banana Boi
05-17-21, 20:52
The two drinks scam, a shot of liquor with a mixer counted as two drinks.I've never had a 2 drink scam in Pattaya. Has anyone and, if so, which bar?
On the contrary, had this pulled on me at Crazy House in Bangkok my 1st, 2nd, and 3rd time I bought a lady drink. See the trend!
I have said before that if you insist on buying drinks do it as a reward and not a preward. Do all your feeling up shit first and buy the drink after she has earned it.
I never understood guys who buy drinks and just sit there with a girl. I need lots of groping and preferably DFK to justify myself spending 200 baht on a lady drink. Yes I am a proud Cheap Cha-lee.
I returned to Pattaya about 3 weeks ago. It's like the Zombie Apocalypse here
Surprised you returned. Why not go to other countries that aren't at the early stages of a pandemic breakout? Thailand is up to nearly 10k cases per day with hardly any vaccines available. It's going to get way worse before it gets better.
Everyone I know who suffered through quarantine at an ASQ hotel still said screw it and left Thailand early! Only Monkeypaw is a gluten for punishment and has stayed in Thailand. I know guys who own condos in Pattaya and have left them empty to go to Medellin and other more active cities. Unless there is a very special girl of your dreams in Thailand there is zero reason to be there right now. Received some photos of Beach Road the other day. All stores boarded up. Really sad to see. Your description is perfect. It's like a Zombie Apocalypse there now minus the zombies.
When you buy a girl in a bar a drink you are paying for her time not necessarily her drinking alcohol. During this interlude you chill chat and decide whether you want to take her home or if you're a groper get your rocks off feeling her up. What's in the drink is completely irrelevant. Think about it. The drink sets you back 150 to 200 baht. If it contains alcohol it will be a shot of cheap Thai whiskey which costs the bar 10 to 15 baht. If the girl doesn't want to drink this rot gut so what. That said I do have some issues with lady drinks.
Overzealous bar girls, more likely mamasans continuously hustling drinks...Well said, and an accurate assessment. As for the drinks, my understanding is that the mamasans are requested by the club owners, to sell so many drinks per month. The mamasans in turn push the girls to sell drinks. It has gotten so bad in this area that I stopped visiting GoGo bars many years ago. I may go now only if I am with a wingman and he wants to visit them.
Banana Boi
05-18-21, 05:31
The mamasans in turn push the girls to sell drinks. It has gotten so bad in this area that I stopped visiting GoGo bars many years ago. I may go now if I am with a wingman and he wants to visit them.Which gogo bars in Pattaya did this? I never get hard sells from gogo girls or mamasans to push an extraordinary amount of drinks. Windmill back in the day may have been the exception.
Bit Siri.
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