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Good time in Latin countries, but not like Thailand.
Every time I meet a girl in Thailand, after 30 min she starts behaving like she has known me all her life. Soon after, I feel the same way towards her. Never happened to me in Latin countries. The closest I got to that experience was in Brazil, but nothing like in Thailand.It is called Asian hospitality. It has nothing to do with the money changing hands.
Explorer8939
10-29-21, 02:03
Yes, I just saw a you tube blogger of note from Pattaya who was on the ground there and confirmed what you just noted. It was not that great a place but it had its moments.How much of that area will be impacted by the sale? Will it go all the way to Soi Buakhow?
... Not with the looks, passion, or skills in the sack. No competition for me. The Latina wins hands down!I guess we can agree to disagree. As much as I like Latinas, in particular Colombian and Brazilian girls, I find some Asian ladies a bit better in some areas, namely skills and sophistication.
I like Korean and Japanese the best, next comes Thai and Filipinos. I must have the Asian fever. Even when I monger in Latin countries, I get attracted to WGs of Asian origins.
I always liked Soi Made in Thailand. Not so much as place to find companionship. (I preferred the go-gos and Soi Six.) But as a place to have a few beers Soi Made in Thailand was ideal. It was big enough that you could always find a place you fancied that night, whether that was because it lacked smokers or showed your favorite sport or played your favorite music or offered a decent pool table. During high season there always seemed to be a bar offering free food, and if that didn't pan out there was a good selection of carts. Prices were reasonable and it was only steps from my favorite place to stay, View Talay 6.
Word is the new owner plans to build a hotel on the site. I wonder if the site plan will feature pedestrian and/or vehicle access between Second Road and Soi Buakao. My understanding is that the hotel site will extend east only as far as the traditional footprint of the original beer bar complex, and that the two parallel sois that start there and run east to Soi Buakao will remain. I sure hope so. But you never know. The hotel could fill up every square meter of land, which would leave the newer bars connected to Soi Buako but not Second Road. Finally, Soi Skaw Beach has always struck me as crying out for development. Maybe some of the bars displaced from the Soi Made in Thailand complex might relocate there. Obviously the physical spaces there would be different. So if that happened I think that soi might start to look like Soi Chaiyapoon.
"The Only Constant in Life Is Change." Heraclitus
Where in Latin America would you suggest a first timer to there go? I am thinking of going to Rio de Janeiro. Is that a good choice? I've been to Thailand several times. I want somewhere to go for at least a month maybe up to 3 months. Thank you for any advice.I heartily endorse a trip to Rio, I miss it a lot. I can confirm that The Cane is right, the garotas are passionate lovers. Language can be a problem though, try to learn a little Portuguese as English speakers are few. Finally, go to the Rio thread and read intensively.
Member #4753
10-29-21, 15:51
I heartily endorse a trip to Rio, I miss it a lot. I can confirm that The Cane is right, the garotas are passionate lovers. Language can be a problem though, try to learn a little Portuguese as English speakers are few. Finally, go to the Rio thread and read intensively.I currently live in Bangkok and have lived in Rio for a long time. Both are great but the girls from Brazil are so much better in bed, much more wilder, more passionate and they can take a pounding.
My previous handle was Bubbaboy. I believe the bubba report is still available in its own thread on the Brazil board.
StudBucket
10-30-21, 07:03
Good time in Latin countries, but not like Thailand.
Every time I meet a girl in Thailand, after 30 min she starts behaving like she has known me all her life. Soon after, I feel the same way towards her. Never happened to me in Latin countries. The closest I got to that experience was in Brazil, but nothing like in Thailand.I am going to have to agree with Lefeu as well. I have been to and mongered in most of the Asian and Latin American countries that are popular over many years. The Thai, Filipina, and Indonesian girls have given me that GFE experience way more than any Latina girls. In countries like Costa Rica, Colombia, Panama, the default time is short time and most girls do not want to stay over, and watch the clock more than the Asian girls. In the Philippines and Thailand, many of the girls have just defaulted to long time and were far less into clock watching.
As far as sex, from my opinion, one can't say Asian or Latinas are better lovers as I have had great experiences from both depending on the girl and your chemistry. But, it was much easier for Asian girls to give me that GFE experience, stay with me and love me long time, lol. This goes a long way whereas the Latinas have been more businesslike.
As far as beauty the top gogo girls in Thailand can match with the top girls in Latin America. In fact, I prefer mongering in Thailand and Philippines anytime over Colombia, not even a second thought for me.
Just my opinion.
SB.
I currently live in Bangkok and have lived in Rio for a long time. Both are great but the girls from Brazil are so much better in bed, much more wilder, more passionate and they can take a pounding..I've had a few Thai gfs who are fantastic and wild in bed but they are rare, they were regular office girls never worked pfp or something like that. The Thai GFE experience is great for P4P but even then its pretty vanilla. Its because in Thai culture girls just aren't encouraged to be like that, to express sexuality, any of it. Add onto that they typically keep their first BF for years so while yeah they have sex its the same guy and Thai guys aren't taught to care about pleasing a women either. Thus, the starfish is born!
Where in Latin America would you suggest a first timer to there go? I am thinking of going to Rio de Janeiro. Is that a good choice? I've been to Thailand several times. I want somewhere to go for at least a month maybe up to 3 months. Thank you for any advice.For the amount of time you want to visit, I would suggest Sao Paulo for mongering too because the scene is larger. Neither Sao Paulo or Rio can compare to the size of SEA. For 3 months, you can also visit Colombia. You can get better looking girls in Colombia for less money. If you want race diversity, like blonde, or redhead then Brazil is better because natural blonde or redhead are very rare in Colombia.
I think it is not a good time to visit Brazil for just mongering for an extended period of time, it is nothing like what is described in pre-covid reports, the night time options are extremely limited unless you don't mind visiting the same club or near empty clubs every night.
I am going to have to agree with...I think general statements without some qualifications like place or time are generally not 100% true on both sides of the discussion.
In Thailand and pretty much all other Asian countries, the girls will bath you and wash your butt hole in places like MP, or soapy. This rarely is the case in Latin American. So which one is better? I think it is YMMV depending on one's preference.
There are even obvious difference in Go Go bar between Bangkok and Pattaya. I think Bangkok Go Go bar has evolved into more ST and at least one bar I know will ask new customer to have ST on site basically. If is rare nowadays to have an ST evolves into LT in Bangkok without significantly more money. I know there are exceptions because I don't have experience on every bars and girls.
Where in Latin America would you suggest a first timer to there go? I am thinking of going to Rio de Janeiro. Is that a good choice? I've been to Thailand several times. I want somewhere to go for at least a month maybe up to 3 months. Thank you for any advice.My advice would be just that, Rio de Janeiro. You will certainly enjoy the ladies. The pandemic has affected action the world over but from my research I think Brazil is among the best of a bad lot. For a first timer I think Rio is also more 'user friendly' than Sao Paulo.
I am going to have to agree with Lefeu as well. I have been to and mongered in most of the Asian and Latin American countries that are popular over many years. The Thai, Filipina, and Indonesian girls have given me that GFE experience way more than any Latina girls. In countries like Costa Rica, Colombia, Panama, the default time is short time and most girls do not want to stay over, and watch the clock more than the Asian girls. In the Philippines and Thailand, many of the girls have just defaulted to long time and were far less into clock watching. I agree 100%, mongered in Dominican Republic, Germany, Thailand, Dubai, etc. And Thailand was the best authentic GFE for me. To be fair, you may not get the best service from go-go bar girls, even though they are the hottest and most expensive on average. But freelancers? You could find dozens of Thai women of endless variety that would be a true companion. You invite them to your place on Monday for a shag, and they're cleaning your house and ready to cook for you on Tuesday, and you're eating an outdoor Thai buffet with their family by Wednesday. Thai women are extremely funny as well, their sense of humor can light up the day.
European women? Eh, very cold and money hungry. Will date you and wonder why you haven't given them the moon yet (but great if money is no option). Latin women? More concerned with texting and thinking about the 10 other boyfriends they have back in their hometown as soon as you've paid them for their service.
All countries have smoking hot women and great lovers in bed, but Thailand gives your the full GFE package from an endless selection of women at an unbeatable price point. Add the fact that it's tropical, English speaking, cheap, tourist destination, etc. And it's like heaven on earth. I still think about how happy some Thai women have made me feel.
Mr Enternational
10-30-21, 16:56
The Thai GFE experience is great for P4P but even then its pretty vanilla. Its because in Thai culture girls just aren't encouraged to be like that, to express sexuality, any of it. And what culture encourages women to be that way? There are no mothers and aunts in any cultures telling their kids you got to go out there and really suck that dick the right way. Even in the 60s and 70s when the west was about free love, you could not have a record like 2 Live Crew's Me So Horny or Face Down Ass Up that came in the late 80s and early 90s only because they fought tooth and nail for freedom of speech.
Chicks that I mess with in different countries always try to bring up culture. I point out to them that most things are personal and not cultural. Because if culture had shit to do with anything then you would still be with your last boyfriend because you are both from the same culture. But you didn't like how he did such and such, which had nothing to do with culture, but just how he was as a person. So do not appoint me doing some things different than you as cultural, because everyone from my culture does not do what I do and everyone from your culture does not do what you do.
For me it is hamburgers and pizza. I am not trying to say the hamburger has lettuce but the pizza has pepperoni. I like both the same. When I have a taste for pizza I go to Pizza Hut. When I have a taste for hamburgers I go to Burger King. Right now I have a taste for Colombia, so I am in Colombia. In February I will have a taste for Thailand so I will head to Thailand.
Mr Enternational
10-30-21, 17:34
If you want race diversity, like blonde, or redhead then Brazil is better because natural blonde or redhead are very rare in Colombia.Natural blondes and redheads are very rare in Brazil as well. 99.9% is what is known as pharmacy blondes, meaning their hair color came out of the bottle of dye that they bought at the pharmacy. It is true that you will get the race diversity though from the communities of Germans (once they mix the blond is gone), Italians, Japanese, Jews that have settled in the place.
Funny thing that many younger female Brazilians do is to put lye all over their body and lay out in the sun. Then when they wash it off all their body hair turns blond. A lot of foreigners will come and think it is their natural color. My ex-girlfriend did it to me once at the beach and it burned like shit. I could not wait to jump into the water to get that shit off. The color lasted a couple of months.
Natural blondes and redheads are very rare in Brazil as well.While I will agree that natural redheads are a rarity in Brazil, I do not agree with respect to natural blondes. I have met and fucked a lot of natural blondes in Brazil, with pretty much all of them being of German or Italian descent and hailing from "gaucha" country, or the south of Brazil.
BackpackBrian
10-30-21, 20:54
I like the FKK scene in Germany because I like to look at the girls fully nude before I go to the room.
Do the girls in Gogo bars get fully nude?
Are there any clubs or bar scenes in Pattaya where the girls get fully nude?
I am not aware of any fully nude places in Pattaya. In Bangkok, I can only recall one on Soi Cowboy (Susie Wong?) who on occasion might have a fully nude show. Of course, there is always Windmill off Walking Street. The girls get pretty rowdy and down and dirty in there at times. Of course, it is closed at the moment. There used to be some lesbian shows in both plus a chance for the adventuresome to DIY.
I like the FKK scene in Germany because I like to look at the girls fully nude before I go to the room.
Do the girls in Gogo bars get fully nude?
Are there any clubs or bar scenes in Pattaya where the girls get fully nude?
The gogo bar on soi 7 or 8 had nude women in a tub. They would shoot ice cubes out of their snatches.
I am not aware of any fully nude places in Pattaya. In Bangkok, I can only recall one on Soi Cowboy (Susie Wong?) who on occasion might have a fully nude show. Of course, there is always Windmill off Walking Street. The girls get pretty rowdy and down and dirty in there at times. Of course, it is closed at the moment. There used to be some lesbian shows in both plus a chance for the adventuresome to DIY.
LittleBigMan
10-31-21, 02:11
When it comes to Pattaya, nudity recently the closes I remember was Dollhouse they have an area for one table lesbian show and a tub area I usually stay downstairs but there is an upstairs called XXX lounge. To each his own I've not a fan of Windmill, too small and I'm not into watching girls in school socks just not my thing. Dollhouse is bigger personally I think the quality of girls is much better and from what I have seen do pretty much what the girls are supposed to do at Windmill although I haven't been at their other clubs across from them Annabelles prior to Covid.
Made in Thailand, as noted had its moment but it was dying and changing even before Covid just like Soi 7,8, the amount of rent and key money for the spaces were insane but they had somewhat of a monopoly. I personally didn't think Tree Town was going to take off but it has my several cruises around the area that say the smart money is going to be there those having deeper pockets had moved their operation to Tree town and the Soi Baukhao area even before Covid.
Some changes when they are allowed to open? Tree town in the back a new high-end Gentlement Club called Beach Club, as far as I know, no connection to the former Beach Club on W. S. Corner of Soi Buakhao and Soi 22, a new GoGo called Candy, those who know Weatherspoons sports bar closed his original location moved and expanded his operation down to the old are-Con hotel closed due to Covid. Then further up Soi Baukhao towards Pattaya Tai (near Action St) former owner of Buka Lounge has a new place called something like.
" Red-Hot-Blue " it is supposed to be a Hybrid club? A mix of GC and GoGo suppose to open at 2 pm in the afternoon.
Member #4753
10-31-21, 03:44
I am not aware of any fully nude places in Pattaya. In Bangkok, I can only recall one on Soi Cowboy (Susie Wong?) who on occasion might have a fully nude show. Of course, there is always Windmill off Walking Street. The girls get pretty rowdy and down and dirty in there at times. Of course, it is closed at the moment. There used to be some lesbian shows in both plus a chance for the adventuresome to DIY.I love windmill. The girls tend to be up for anything, including doing to pee shows in the tub at the far back of the room. There is always at least 5 hotties in the club too. A rare thing these days in any Thai club.
It is small though and fills up quickly. However it is well managed and the farang managers look after you by finding a decent space once they know you and know that you spend cash.
PinUp also have some hotties, but the attitude of the club kind of sux. The waitresses are annoying and it is much more aimed at asian customers. They aim to provide as little service as possbile at the highest possible cost.
Natural blondes and redheads are very rare in Brazil as well. 99.9% is what is known as pharmacy blondes, meaning their hair color came out of the bottle of dye that they bought at the pharmacy...I met several and they told me their natural hair color is loiro medio or something like that. They are not golden blondes which are less common. There are less redheads and I have not asked them because I see most of them on metro. My impression is that even it's not natural color, they pull it off very well. I have met blondes in Colombia but it is easy to see most of them are not natural blondes.
StudBucket
10-31-21, 06:58
I like the FKK scene in Germany because I like to look at the girls fully nude before I go to the room.
Do the girls in Gogo bars get fully nude?
Are there any clubs or bar scenes in Pattaya where the girls get fully nude?Although there are not full nude gogo bars in Pattaya, most of the gogo bars have the girls in bikinis and they take off their top. You are pretty much seeing her in an almost all nude state. So, I would not worry about it and just go as you are missing out greatly. Once you have been to Thailand, you will understand this. The best girls pre pandemic were in Palace, Pinup, Skyfall, Sensations, Baccara, and a few more. The girls there will for the most part have their top off at some point.
I met several and they told me their natural hair color is loiro medio or something like that. They are not golden blondes which are less common. There are less redheads and I have not asked them because I see most of them on metro. My impression is that even it's not natural color, they pull it off very well. I have met blondes in Colombia but it is easy to see most of them are not natural blondes.Blondes have more fun and do Brazilian women know it. Many Brazilian women dye their hair blonde. Sometimes you can detect it by just looking at them and other times its not so easy. Some in the privacy of the room when all her clothes are off its easier to tell even if they have shaved all their pubic hair. If you have a 'blonde' GF in Brazil ask her not to shave her pubic hair and you may be surprised what you see.
I agree 100%, mongered in Dominican Republic, Germany, Thailand, Dubai, etc. And Thailand was the best authentic GFE for me.....I agree with girlfriendliness in SEA but my problem in Thailand is the actual service. Too many girls complain about the size and seem unable or rather unwilling to take a good pounding in multiple positions which I have no problem with in Germany and Latin America, except the Dominican Republic.
... Some in the privacy of the room when all her clothes are off its easier to tell even if they have shaved all their pubic hair....Good point. I was at a restaurant for breakfast for 2 hours this morning, long wait. I saw one family that father is a blonde and the kids are blondes too. At another table, the mother is a blonde and the kid is also a blonde. So another way is to use the males to make the observation.
Explorer8939
10-31-21, 21:44
Blondes have more fun and do Brazilian women know it. Many Brazilian women dye their hair blonde. Sometimes you can detect it by just looking at them and other times its not so easy. Some in the privacy of the room when all her clothes are off its easier to tell even if they have shaved all their pubic hair. If you have a 'blonde' GF in Brazil ask her not to shave her pubic hair and you may be surprised what you see.I don't normally go with blondes in Thailand or Mexico because they generally charge more. I don't want to pay for dye.
BackpackBrian
10-31-21, 22:02
Although there are not full nude gogo bars in Pattaya, most of the gogo bars have the girls in bikinis and they take off their top. You are pretty much seeing her in an almost all nude state. So, I would not worry about it and just go as you are missing out greatly. Once you have been to Thailand, you will understand this. The best girls pre pandemic were in Palace, Pinup, Skyfall, Sensations, Baccara, and a few more. The girls there will for the most part have their top off at some point.Hi Studbucket.
What is the rate for full service (BBBJ + sex) in these Gogo bars?
Although there are not full nude gogo bars in Pattaya, most of the gogo bars have the girls in bikinis and they take off their top..My info is pretty old but isn't / wasn't Kink full nude?? At least upstairs.
My info is pretty old but isn't / wasn't Kink full nude?? At least upstairs.Yes but. At least during covid the girls doing full nude upstairs were the ugliest / fattest girls I've ever seen working in a gogo bar.
Member #4753
11-01-21, 09:12
My info is pretty old but isn't / wasn't Kink full nude?? At least upstairs.Windmill is definitely fully nude too. At least the various dancers on the stages are. Including doing lesbian shows and wide open leg shots with a bit of a masturbation show for tips.
The bad news for you is that I will be going to Tijuana soon, so you will have to read my reports in that section.It's been like two weeks. We are still waiting on "those reports" in Tijuana juts like when you were in Pattaya.
It's actually amazing how one can be barfining 4 to 5 girls everyday, for many 10 months straight, while spending a 120000 baht or more on girls a month. Plus drinking everyday cheap $15 tequila and still getting drunk. This is when Pattaya was all closed no nightlife open.
And then all this fun goes dark and strangely quiet while in Tijuana. No drinking cheap tequila. But yet Tijuana is open with clubs and stripper bars everywhere. How you are able to pull the brakes when the party is alive, nobody knows. Please just one report from HK Club with 4-5 girls a day and some names, pretty please.
Explorer8939
11-02-21, 02:45
It's been like two weeks. We are still waiting on "those reports" in Tijuana juts like when you were in Pattaya.
It's actually amazing how one can be barfining 4 to 5 girls everyday, for many 10 months straight, while spending a 120000 baht or more on girls a month. Plus drinking everyday cheap $15 tequila and still getting drunk. This is when Pattaya was all closed no nightlife open.
And then all this fun goes dark and strangely quiet while in Tijuana. No drinking cheap tequila. But yet Tijuana is open with clubs and stripper bars everywhere. How you are able to pull the brakes when the party is alive, nobody knows. Please just one report from HK Club with 4-5 girls a day and some names, pretty please.Tequila is not cheap in Pattaya, Camarena costs over 1000 baht!
Anyway, I just got to Tijuana, but I don't intend to barfine many ladies.
StudBucket
11-03-21, 05:41
Hi Studbucket.
What is the rate for full service (BBBJ + sex) in these Gogo bars?The normal rates pre-Covid were barfine of 800-1200 which went to the bar and short time could be had for 1500-2500 baht depending on the quality of the gal. Some would even ask for 3 k short. Pattaya go go girls were by no means cheap at all. I would also monger in I-Bar and found decent freelancers there for 2 k short - 4 k long time but you would not have to pay any bar fine.
One thing that will be interesting is that when Pattaya slowly opens up, I hope the bars and girls will reduce their prices due to the lack of traffic. Of course, this may not last too long.
NicFrenchy
11-03-21, 07:07
The normal rates pre-Covid were barfine of 800-1200 which went to the bar and short time could be had for 1500-2500 baht depending on the quality of the gal. Some would even ask for 3 k short. Pattaya go go girls were by no means cheap at all.800-1200 barfine for ST is downright theft. Add to that the 2 K-2. 5 K ST fee, you're better off getting an escort, as they usually look better and the service isn't as "rushed".
Popular Bargirls always want to do ST quick so they can return to the bar.
StudBucket
11-03-21, 07:23
It may be theft, but that was the market pre Covid and the top girls in Palace, Pinup, Skyfall, and more had no problem getting it.
As far as saying escorts look better than go go girls; I am not sure about that one as it depends on your tastes, and ability to create chemistry with good looking girls . I personally have found that online escorts can be hit or miss and the photos can be heavily photoshopped. Lastly, I've rarely had rushed service from go go girls; many have partied with me for a couple of hours before going back to the room.
But, as I said the ideal is a mix of go go girls, online, TF, Soi 6, IBar girls, etc. And your cost per day gets balanced.
Tequila is not cheap in Pattaya, Camarena costs over 1000 baht!
Anyway, I just got to Tijuana, but I don't intend to barfine many ladies.If you take a cheap crack WG with missing teeth who sells her pussy and ass on the street for $15. Move her to inside a strip club, but then raise the price in her to $50. She is still a cheap crack WG. No matter what her asking new price is. I'm just sorry for the guy who thinks that the higher the price paid actually means that he got something worth quality because it wasn't cheap.
And by the way Camarena is like $20 bottle. Ever heard of Don Julio or Patron? It's a step up in quality. Digital trails are a motherfucker nowadays.
Member #4753
11-03-21, 12:49
It may be theft, but that was the market pre Covid and the top girls in Palace, Pinup, Skyfall, and more had no problem getting it.
As far as saying escorts look better than go go girls; I am not sure about that one as it depends on your tastes, and ability to create chemistry with good looking girls . I personally have found that online escorts can be hit or miss and the photos can be heavily photoshopped. Lastly, I've rarely had rushed service from go go girls; many have partied with me for a couple of hours before going back to the room.
But, as I said the ideal is a mix of go go girls, online, TF, Soi 6, IBar girls, etc. And your cost per day gets balanced.You speak wise words.
800-1200 barfine for ST is downright theft. Add to that the 2 K-2. 5 K ST fee, you're better off getting an escort, as they usually look better and the service isn't as "rushed".
Popular Bargirls always want to do ST quick so they can return to the bar.You know better than me that some "escorts" are often bar girls, freelances in low sukhumvit. So not 100% certain you get an exclusive escort only girl. You pay them 1500 in the bar and 4000 as an escort. Escorts also work through agencies cutting their slice of the cake.
Anyhow I reckon a 800/1200 bar fine is outrageous. Reminds me of those "laminated price lists" thrown under your nose by mama-San's with premium prices pretending they are the official prices. They work well for newbies, Korean and Japanese mongers. They are nearly lined up to western prices for average P4 P back home and apply to fresh young Asian girls. The farang will love that and won't believe his eyes. We have all been through it, I for one, paying for an extended ST (half night) 4 k in BKK, and learn soon the ropes.
Mr Enternational
11-03-21, 17:35
You know better than me that some "escorts" are often bar girls, freelances in low sukhumvit. So not 100% certain you get an exclusive escort only girl. You pay them 1500 in the bar and 4000 as an escort. Escorts also work through agencies cutting their slice of the cake.There is no thick line between where hookers will work. They usually go where they will get paid. What you said reminds me of when I took a bunch of friends that were in town to the soapy on 2nd Road. I asked the manager for my cut. He said I was supposed to jack up the price and keep the difference. So whether the price to them was 1500 or 4000, they would have been getting the same girl. But I guess at the 4000 mark they could have called them escorts instead of bargirls.
Explorer8939
11-03-21, 18:51
If you take a cheap crack WG with missing teeth who sells her pussy and ass on the street for $15. Move her to inside a strip club, but then raise the price in her to $50. She is still a cheap crack WG. No matter what her asking new price is. I'm just sorry for the guy who thinks that the higher the price paid actually means that he got something worth quality because it wasn't cheap.
And by the way Camarena is like $20 bottle. Ever heard of Don Julio or Patron? It's a step up in quality. Digital trails are a motherfucker nowadays.Where can you buy Camarena for $20 a bottle in Pattaya?
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Where can you buy Camarena for $20 a bottle in Pattaya?
Have you ever been to Pattaya?Brother,
You keep missing the point. You are too hung up on this thing called "price." Taco Bell is cheap ass supposedly Mexican fast food. Just because it costs 3-4 times more in Thailand doesn't make it fine dining. It is still cheap ass Mexican fast food. Grown men should know this. That's why it made no sense for you to be dropping 120000 baht a month on girls, but reporting on them as mamasan quality. Or desperate girls with no customers. Shit just doesn't add up. And if you had that much time and the budget to blow on 4 to 5 girls a day. Then you thought process should be much more smarter and wiser. Even in your choice of tequila bought for the home. It is different if you were at a bar and just had to buy a drink for the entertainment. And your talent selection should have been way much better. Better looking girls will always have customers. Hopefully, you aren't one those who just won the lottery. Might want to use some of that cash on a pedicure from what I remember from the picture. This guy gets it below.
And no I've never been to Pattaya or even met any other board members. How is it?
So whether the price to them was 1500 or 4000, they would have been getting the same girl. But I guess at the 4000 mark they could have called them escorts instead of bargirls.
So, I'm doing my 'due diligence' on Thai Friendly in prep. For an upcoming trip, and.
BKK seems pretty dead, Pattaya is booming on TF. Way more girls P4 P (I'm not doing the girlfriend thing this potential trip). Prices cheaper. 90% of girls are agreeing to BBFSCIP for less than 1500.
Fantasy I've had for a while (thanks to Mmede's posts over in the Cebu forum) is a hole swapping BBFSCIP threesome. Seems it could be more easily arranged this trip than when I was there in July.
Can fly on the 19th. Ten days in Pattaya to exhaust myself, a few days taking in the sights of BKK.
Banana Boi
11-05-21, 12:09
Skyfall is for sale for 50 million baht if anyone has saved enough money by not hobbying these past 2 years.
So, I'm doing my 'due diligence' on Thai Friendly in prep. For an upcoming trip, and.
BKK seems pretty dead, Pattaya is booming on TF. Way more girls P4 P (I'm not doing the girlfriend thing this potential trip). Prices cheaper. 90% of girls are agreeing to BBFSCIP for less than 1500.
Fantasy I've had for a while (thanks to Mmede's posts over in the Cebu forum) is a hole swapping BBFSCIP threesome. Seems it could be more easily arranged this trip than when I was there in July.
Can fly on the 19th. Ten days in Pattaya to exhaust myself, a few days taking in the sights of BKK.Do you just ask them straight up on TF or how do you find this out? Thanks in advance!
90% of girls are agreeing to BBFSCIP for less than 1500.Do you just proposition them straight up about BBFSCIP or how do you go about it?
Explorer8939
11-05-21, 16:07
So, I'm doing my 'due diligence' on Thai Friendly in prep. For an upcoming trip, and.
BKK seems pretty dead, Pattaya is booming on TF. Way more girls P4 P (I'm not doing the girlfriend thing this potential trip). Prices cheaper. 90% of girls are agreeing to BBFSCIP for less than 1500.
Fantasy I've had for a while (thanks to Mmede's posts over in the Cebu forum) is a hole swapping BBFSCIP threesome. Seems it could be more easily arranged this trip than when I was there in July.
Can fly on the 19th. Ten days in Pattaya to exhaust myself, a few days taking in the sights of BKK.You need to apply for Thailand Pass ASAP.
So, I'm doing my 'due diligence' on Thai Friendly in prep. For an upcoming trip, and.
BKK seems pretty dead, Pattaya is booming on TF. Way more girls P4 P (I'm not doing the girlfriend thing this potential trip). Prices cheaper. 90% of girls are agreeing to BBFSCIP for less than 1500.
Fantasy I've had for a while (thanks to Mmede's posts over in the Cebu forum) is a hole swapping BBFSCIP threesome. Seems it could be more easily arranged this trip than when I was there in July.
Can fly on the 19th. Ten days in Pattaya to exhaust myself, a few days taking in the sights of BKK.6 of the 7 girls I've seen have offered it. And by offer, I mean reach down and put me inside them without saying a thing about a condom. I BBFSCIP with 5 of them and one CIM and several of the girls both. Only one said a condom was needed and she was a disappointing all around.
Let me know if you want a wingman some night if you come here and things open up at all.
Skyfall is for sale for 50 million baht if anyone has saved enough money by not hobbying these past 2 years.Interesting. I watched a youtube video that indicated a major renovation was taking place at Skyfall. Guess the owner is trying to pump up the asking price.
You need to apply for Thailand Pass ASAP.Cheers. Finalizing my plans this weekend, then I'll look into it. Can't be anymore Byzantine than the Phuket Sandbox!
Do you just proposition them straight up about BBFSCIP or how do you go about it?Pretty much. I have a TF profile that looks like I'm in Pattaya. Hit them with a message, "Hi, In pattaya now. Want St. What's your line?
On line: "1000st krap. Today, 6 pm, Stay x, Soi x" (Thai girls are very in the moment, they'll probably ignore you half the time if you say 'Coming next week. ').
"Ok".
"You ok no condom?" or "I not like. ".
Sometimes you get a 'Ok', a flat no, a noncomittal 'Hmmm. ' Add money in 200 baht increments, you get there. CIP comes easily after you've got the bareback agreement.
The really hot girls (I. E the ones I really want to fuck), I tend to favour the 'go with the flow' method. Not mention a condom, get them off with oral, slowly go for it. Offer more if needed. I fucked girls bareback last trip who mentioned condom multiple times in Line, as soon as they got to my room etc.
Unethical? Maybe. But the thrill of talking them into it can't be beat.
Not mention a condom, get them off with oral, slowly go for it. Offer more if needed.Thanks, though I got to say I don't do oral on working girls LOL. Hope my charm, good looks and fingers can make it happen anyway.
Mr Enternational
11-06-21, 03:46
Fantasy I've had for a while (thanks to Mmede's posts over in the Cebu forum) is a hole swapping BBFSCIP threesome. Seems it could be more easily arranged this trip than when I was there in July.Only thing about that is that Thai girls are not Filipina girls. They will do some things with a customer that they will never admit to and definitely do not want someone witnessing them do it. But good luck.
Banana Boi
11-06-21, 05:37
Interesting. I watched a youtube video that indicated a major renovation was taking place at Skyfall. Guess the owner is trying to pump up the asking price.I meant to write Skyfall building in my initial post. Yes Skyfall is being renovated. Owner of Skyfall is not the owner of the building. Skyfall pays 10k baht per day for rent. It's the entire 3 floor building for sale. Maybe the owner of Camel Toe will buy it?
Explorer8939
11-06-21, 08:46
I meant to write Skyfall building in my initial post. Yes Skyfall is being renovated. Owner of Skyfall is not the owner of the building. Skyfall pays 10k baht per day for rent. It's the entire 3 floor building for sale. Maybe the owner of Camel Toe will buy it?The Camel Toe roster today.
The Camel Toe roster today.My choice, front row, fourth from right.
Explorer8939
11-07-21, 03:14
My choice, front row, fourth from right.That's Cindy. Maybe you barfined her before.
Not so much English.
Banana Boi
11-07-21, 05:17
Front row 4th from the right in the black is by far the best girl. She's actually gogo girl quality. Even worth a visit.
Banana Boi
11-07-21, 05:39
Just tried signing in to the Pattayagogos.net Japan site for the first time in well over a year. When did it become a site where you have to sign in to see the posts?
Just tried signing in to the Pattayagogos.net Japan site for the first time in well over a year. When did it become a site where you have to sign in to see the posts?Hi bud, welcome back hope all is well! I heard now to get into that site you have to travel at least 3 months out of the year, yes even though a pandemic!
Within 24 hours, I went from having two reliable girls in my rotation to zero. One was my choice and the other just happened out of nowhere.
Fun Girl:
The good things about her are that she's fun, energetic, helpful (she helped with a problem in my condo and helped me buy stuff online, etc), and has a cute little body. The bad things are that the sex service is only average, she has a pretty serious drug problem, and she really doesn't have it together. She has been to my place 7 times and we have had sex 4 times and she has charged me 3 times. For all that contact, I have given her less than 4 K, even though two of the sex sessions were LT. She has friends in my condo (as does seemingly every working girl in Pattaya), so sometimes she'll stop by here when she visits them. But she found out I was seeing other girls and had a meltdown about it. She went from asking how may day was to asking if I was alone and being hurt by the whole thing. I never felt like she was scamming me, especially with how little money I've given her, but I could see her thinking about it a few times before backing off. Her friends have been on her about the drug use and things have just gotten too volatile for my liking. Saturday was her birthday and I gave her a 1000 bht because she's been so nice and helpful and I have paid her so little. She immediately offered me a BJ because she was on her period, but I just found that sad. On Sunday I told her I couldn't see her anymore and that was that. She continues to message me with the friendly banter we always did and I'll have to decide if that can continue. I would like to keep in touch because she's fun, but I could see me sitting there horny one night and her needing money and ending up in bed with her. Can't have that happen again. She's the only friendly person I've met here, so I need to get out more.
CIMgirl:
I broke things off with Fun girl with the knowledge I still had this girl to fall back on. She is my favorite sex partner I've met in Thailand this visit, so I was really happy to have her and there was every indication that she wanted to keep seeing me. I told her I was going to Bangkok for a week and she got panicked and upset because she thought I said I was leaving Pattaya permanently. Everything was great with her. Other than a lack of English, she was really easy to spend time with. The sex was great and she's just a sweet girl. I scheduled her on Halloween for LT, but she asked if we could just do ST. I didn't realize it was Halloween when I scheduled her, so I said ok, no problem, and to let me know if I make some schedule mistake like that again because I want her to have fun. I certainly didn't want to take her from her friends on one of the best party nights of the year. She came on Sunday early and we had another really nice session. Everything seemed fine. She messaged me Tuesday asking if I wanted to get together with her that night. I said I couldn't, but I was free later in the week. I called her Friday and set up a meeting on Sunday. She said yes to the meeting and I mentioned that I really liked a new picture she posted. She said she had a few more and a short video that went with it and she would show it to me Sunday. Great, everything seemed fine. Sunday comes and she doesn't send her normal message in the morning so I sent her a short message verifying the meeting. No response and she didn't even read the message. The whole day passes without her reading my message, which is very unlike her. She usually responds without 1-2 hours when I message her. I check her TF page and it is gone. She has deleted it.
So now I'm thinking there are 3 possibilities.
1. She has never told her friends (except one) or family that she is freelancing. None of her friends freelance. Maybe they found out or she had second thoughts and she bailed on the whole thing. I could see her avoiding me if that was the case and it would explain the quick and complete departure from TF as well. I'm surprised she wouldn't just say that to me given her always good communication, but she certainly doesn't owe me anything.
2. She doesn't want to see me anymore. Maybe I did something or maybe she found out I was seeing other girls and she just blew me off. But I use my free TF account to check and she didn't just block me on TF. Her account is gone. In fact, all of her accounts are gone (she had 3). Plus, everything was great up until Sunday, so something would have had to happen between Friday and Sunday and I doubt she got upset with me during that time.
3. She got a LT offer from someone. I knew that eventually she was going to start getting busy because she's pretty and she gives good service. I was even going to mention that the next time I saw her. She might have deactivated her accounts because she was going to be busy for a while. Again, I still feel like she would have given me a quick message saying she was leaving town and couldn't get together, but like I said, she owes me nothing.
I feel like #2 is the least likely given everything being ok on Friday and her deleting her TF accounts, but I have no idea what happened. I hope she comes back!
So now I'm left with a list of girls who have not really delivered what I was looking for. I'll post about my other encounters over the next 2 days. I think I'm taking a break for a few days other than one girl I already have scheduled.
Explorer8939
11-09-21, 15:32
Within 24 hours, I went from having two reliable girls in my rotation to zero. One was my choice and the other just happened out of nowhere.
Fun Girl:
The good things about her are that she's fun, energetic, helpful (she helped with a problem in my condo and helped me buy stuff online, etc), and has a cute little body. The bad things are that the sex service is only average, she has a pretty serious drug problem, and she really doesn't have it together. She has been to my place 7 times and we have had sex 4 times and she has charged me 3 times. For all that contact, I have given her less than 4 K, even though two of the sex sessions were LT. She has friends in my condo (as does seemingly every working girl in Pattaya), so sometimes she'll stop by here when she visits them. But she found out I was seeing other girls and had a meltdown about it. She went from asking how may day was to asking if I was alone and being hurt by the whole thing. I never felt like she was scamming me, especially with how little money I've given her, but I could see her thinking about it a few times before backing off. Her friends have been on her about the drug use and things have just gotten too volatile for my liking. Saturday was her birthday and I gave her a 1000 bht because she's been so nice and helpful and I have paid her so little. She immediately offered me a BJ because she was on her period, but I just found that sad. On Sunday I told her I couldn't see her anymore and that was that. She continues to message me with the friendly banter we always did and I'll have to decide if that can continue. I would like to keep in touch because she's fun, but I could see me sitting there horny one night and her needing money and ending up in bed with her. Can't have that happen again. She's the only friendly person I've met here, so I need to get out more.
CIMgirl:.If a bargirl doesn't charge you for sex, and then you later go with another lady, your life will be a living hell. That's a bad move.
As far as lady #2, she go with new customer Long Time.
Plenty of other ladies in Pattaya, if you have money.
Explorer8939
11-09-21, 16:14
About 4 years ago, I created a Facebook account specifically for Thailand. Since then, I have collected contact info for ladies that I have barfined, if they were any good. Sometimes, friends of these ladies contact me, so I have a bunch of Facebook friends on hand, so when I arrive in Pattaya, I don't have to look for ladies, I just post on FB that I have arrived, and they contact me.
Reading FB also informs me about which ladies are working overseas, lots go Korea or Dubai. Or who has a live in boyfriend.
Member #4753
11-09-21, 16:33
3. She got a LT offer from someone. I knew that eventually she was going to start getting busy because she's pretty and she gives good service. I was even going to mention that the next time I saw her. She might have deactivated her accounts because she was going to be busy for a while. Again, I still feel like she would have given me a quick message saying she was leaving town and couldn't get together, but like I said, she owes me nothing.She most likely got a long term offer. Was probably seeing a few farangs and eventually once decided to put her on a longer term deal.
Most above average looking girls with decent personalities get taken out of the game quickly.
Explorer8939
11-09-21, 19:26
She most likely got a long term offer. Was probably seeing a few farangs and eventually once decided to put her on a longer term deal.
Most above average looking girls with decent personalities get taken out of the game quickly.If you live in Pattaya now, your biggest problem is avoiding a LT girlfriend. Customers are so scarce that ladies grab whoever they can.
With new tourists showing up after November 1, the ladies will pick off the weak and infirm pretty quickly.
She most likely got a long term offer. Was probably seeing a few farangs and eventually once decided to put her on a longer term deal.
Most above average looking girls with decent personalities get taken out of the game quickly.And just like that, she's back. Let this be a lesson for me to never waste a second of mental energy trying to figure these girls out.
She messaged last night and just said Hi and that she got her period. I don't really believe that's what happened because she wanted to meet last night and it would have been at most 3. 5 days since she got her period. The lies these girls tell are not even internally consistent.
I'm going to assume she had a LT thing for a few days and didn't bother to postpone our meeting. She's pretty new at this. I will, of course, welcome her back with open arms. She can tell me sweet little lies if she wants.
So now I'm thinking there are 3 possibilities.Too much thinking for what? You look for marriage?
After meeting few Isaan based girls in my hometown. These are a charging anywhere between 6 k INR -;10 k INR IE $80 - $130 per hour of service in India. Upon RTFF I didn't find any mention about their prices in Thailand Isaan area and outside like Pattaya, Phuket etc.
I want to know how much these girls worth in Isaan and outside Isaan and abroad.
Saturday was her birthday and I gave her a 1000 bht because she's been so nice and helpful and I have paid her so little. She immediately offered me a BJ because she was on her period, but I just found that sad..You have a P4P relationship with her. You give money to her and she provides sex to you. Why are you sad?
Too much thinking for what? You look for marriage?I assure you it was my penis doing the thinking, not my heart.
On a side note, her pictures on TF have always been a little bad. They just didn't capture what made her attractive. I thought maybe she wasn't photogenic, but now she posted a bunch of new photos on her Line. She's going to get very busy.
Crazy4Thai
11-10-21, 15:33
Too much thinking for what? You look for marriage?CIMguy, this is a very good comment even if so brief. Better to keep moving and increase your rotation. Long long time ago when I first started this adventure in Thailand there was a common caution that I never see written anymore. Don't fall in love. Pussy, It's all good, some is just better than others. Go find some more and more after that.
CIMguy, this is a very good comment even if so brief. Better to keep moving and increase your rotation. Long long time ago when I first started this adventure in Thailand there was a common caution that I never see written anymore. Don't fall in love. Pussy, It's all good, some is just better than others. Go find some more and more after that.I like some of the girls, but there is zero chance I would fall in love with any of them. I was disappointed that current favorite girl disappeared. There are others coming, one on Friday who I like so far. I always ask questions. It's the nature of my temperament and my profession.
But it's excellent advice so fair enough.
CIMguy, this is a very good comment even if so brief. Better to keep moving and increase your rotation. Long long time ago when I first started this adventure in Thailand there was a common caution that I never see written anymore. Don't fall in love. Pussy, It's all good, some is just better than others. Go find some more and more after that.I like some of the girls, but there is zero chance I would fall in love with any of them. I was disappointed that current favorite girl disappeared. There are others coming, one on Friday who I like so far. I always ask questions. It's the nature of my temperament and my profession.
But it's excellent advice so fair enough.
Mr Enternational
11-10-21, 18:20
Great, everything seemed fine. Sunday comes and she doesn't send her normal message in the morning so I sent her a short message verifying the meeting. No response and she didn't even read the message. The whole day passes without her reading my message, which is very unlike her. She usually responds without 1-2 hours when I message her. I check her TF page and it is gone. She has deleted it.
So now I'm thinking there are 3 possibilities.There are not 3 possibilities. There are countless possibilities and none of them matter. Women (prostitutes and non-prostitutes) come and go. Just get another the same way you got that one. I posted last year about one of my Thai chicks that disappeared into thin air. Like 1 year later she hit me up and turns out she had been in jail. Don't fret over chicks disappearing. Just enjoy people while they are in your life.
Member #4753
11-11-21, 01:24
Mr Enternational;2624501Like 1 year later she hit me up and turns out she had been in jail.That was an unexpected twist. LOL.
Mr Enternational
11-11-21, 03:58
That was an unexpected twist. LOL.Now that I think about it, it was about 5 months later. You should have seen her hair. She looked like a damn chicken with it growing back from how they cut it all off. She said they get 45 seconds to shower.
You have a P4P relationship with her. You give money to her and she provides sex to you. Why are you sad?Because it was her birthday and she couldn't see a token gift as just a gift.
I sometimes wrestle with the morality of this thing we do, but that's my issue. I don't ask you to wrestle with it. It was more a gift designed to make her feel good and settle the score for the services she had already given me, but she saw it as a purchase. I felt like that was a little sad. Her birthday should be about her, not me stealing another pop on my way out the door. That's just my opinion though.
There are not 3 possibilities. There are countless possibilities and none of them matter. Women (prostitutes and non-prostitutes) come and go. Just get another the same way you got that one. I posted last year about one of my Thai chicks that disappeared into thin air. Like 1 year later she hit me up and turns out she had been in jail. Don't fret over chicks disappearing. Just enjoy people while they are in your life.I feel like I'm already doing this. I didn't lose any sleep over her disappearing. I messaged other girls. I think it's normal to be disappointed if a girl you like disappears. Of course I don't want her to leave. I guess I shouldn't have posted about my curiosity here.
She came over last night and we had our best session yet, which moved her into my top 3 favorites of all time. She's still behind two Czech girls from back when Prague was a great place to be. I only saw the top girl two times and we just fucked and laughed for two hours straight each time. I wish I had gotten to see her more times because I'd have more great sex memories, not because I want to marry her. Girl #2 gave the best GFE I've had and I also only saw her only two times. I wish I saw her more too. I actually learned about #2 on this board.
I have also seen 4 or 5 girls on this trip that I wish I never saw. Each session with this girl I like is one less time I might get another girl I wish I didn't see. I'm going to continue hoping she doesn't disappear.
Banana Boi
11-11-21, 07:22
If Camel Toe is allowed to be open are any of the other BJ bars, G clubs open like Passion, Kit Cat, Seahorse, M Club, Blush, Aqua Deymie, Heaven, Huntsman, The Mews, The Den, Soi Full Love inn, Soi Boomerang, Jade House, Bliss, Booze, Diamond, plus many many more. Not sure which of these survived the latest COVID closures. I do see on Google maps the row of BJ bars on Soi LK Pavillion are gone. Also a shame no more Kinnaree.
Member #4753
11-11-21, 07:38
Now that I think about it, it was about 5 months later. You should have seen her hair. She looked like a damn chicken with it growing back from how they cut it all off. She said they get 45 seconds to shower.5 months in a Thai prison would be brutal.
Explorer8939
11-11-21, 09:46
If Camel Toe is allowed to be open are any of the other BJ bars, G clubs open like Passion, Kit Cat, Seahorse, M Club, Blush, Aqua Deymie, Heaven, Huntsman, The Mews, The Den, Soi Full Love inn, Soi Boomerang, Jade House, Bliss, Booze, Diamond, plus many many more. Not sure which of these survived the latest COVID closures. I do see on Google maps the row of BJ bars on Soi LK Pavillion are gone. Also a shame no more Kinnaree.Camel Toe is licensed as a restaurant.
BTW, there is talk that bars will not open until 2022.
If Camel Toe is allowed to be open are any of the other BJ bars, G clubs open like Passion, Kit Cat, Seahorse, M Club, Blush, Aqua Deymie, Heaven, Huntsman, The Mews, The Den, Soi Full Love inn, Soi Boomerang, Jade House, Bliss, Booze, Diamond, plus many many more. Not sure which of these survived the latest COVID closures. I do see on Google maps the row of BJ bars on Soi LK Pavillion are gone. Also a shame no more Kinnaree.Cameltoe is open as a restaurant, with NO alcohol. Some of the ones you mentioned might have a restaurant license but afaik aren't open. Blush did open as a restaurant, but got raided shortly thereafter. One you did mention is open illegally, but they have to know you to get in. What makes you think kinnaree is no more? The crazy Owner is active in several LINE groups and is awaiting reopening like all the other bar owners.
LittleBigMan
11-11-21, 13:18
If Camel Toe is allowed to be open are any of the other BJ bars, G clubs open like Passion, Kit Cat, Seahorse, M Club, Blush, Aqua Deymie, Heaven, Huntsman, The Mews, The Den, Soi Full Love inn, Soi Boomerang, Jade House, Bliss, Booze, Diamond, plus many many more. Not sure which of these survived the latest COVID closures. I do see on Google maps the row of BJ bars on Soi LK Pavillion are gone. Also a shame no more Kinnaree.My recent cruise in the area in regards to Camel Toe, because of the location it is down Soi 10, to the end, turns left and an immediate right down the next soi but it is the first house. It is a house. From the outside, it looks closed because the metal gate that leads into an area to park a vehicle is closed but there is a door on the right with a bell. They have a large banner covering the front of the gate so you can't see what is going on. There is a small table with an alcohol bottle for looks but the place is open serving food as a front. There are a number of cameras in front of the house and I could hear lots of laughing going on inside? It is tucked away I don't see a lot of foot traffic or vehicles so unless a neighbor calls? Even if someone did by the time they actually got in you be done with your BJ and eating your meal?
As for Kinnaree, I know the conversation has come up before Covid? That the land was sold but when I was there prior to this current lockdown it was still open I asked the person who I thought was the older or manager he seem dumbfounded when the question was asked. Next time I'm in the area I will swing by to see. As for your reference " BJ bars on Soi LK Pavillion are gone " what are the names? There are lots of new places prior to the last lockdown that opened on Soi Boomerang.
....I sometimes wrestle with the morality of this thing we do.....It depends. Eleven years ago in a sauna in Changping, China I was doing this cutie in reverse cowgirl and felt liquid dripping onto my thighs, it was tears, she was crying. I did, then. But banging a NYC hooker in doggie who's shrieking and twerking like there's no tomorrow causing my balls to be quite sore, not so much.
HorseTrader
11-11-21, 17:16
It depends. Eleven years ago in a sauna in Changping, China I was doing this cutie in reverse cowgirl and felt liquid dripping onto my thighs, it was tears, she was crying. I did, then. But banging a NYC hooker in doggie who's shrieking and twerking like there's no tomorrow causing my balls to be quite sore, not so much.Many years ago I took an American stripper to a hotel and just as we started sex, her tears started. A few months later I was in the same hotel with her younger sister, who told me that the older sister used tears to coax more money from her clients.
If I ever see tears again, I'll carefully evaluate if they are from pleasure, pain, guilt, or a ploy for more money. Given my advanced age and limitations, I don't expect to ever see either of the first two.
Banana Boi
11-11-21, 18:42
As for Kinnaree, I know the conversation has come up before Covid? That the land was sold but when I was there prior to this current lockdown it was still open I asked the person who I thought was the older or manager he seem dumbfounded when the question was asked. Next time I'm in the area I will swing by to see. As for your reference " BJ bars on Soi LK Pavillion are gone " what are the names? There are lots of new places prior to the last lockdown that opened on Soi Boomerang.Wow that's great news for me regarding Kinnaree. For all this time I thought it was closed forever so they could build more Russian condos.
The Soi LK Pavilion bars I remember the names of were Geisha and Seven Club.
Soi Boomerang had 4 or 5 BJ bars in 2019. I used to go to 555 because one of my Sapphire girls worked there. Not sure if the current ones are the same bars or new ones.
BTW, there is talk that bars will not open until 2022.
Read that too. Unfortunate. With Phnom Penh and Jakarta open/ing soon I may switch my initial destination and head to Thailand after. Jakarta is open for 19 countries with 3 days quarantine but you have to apply for a tourist visa rather than the simple Visa on arrival. More importantly, all bars are open! Vietnam was to reopen soon too but COVID has exploded and they are now at 8000 new cases per day.
LittleBigMan
11-12-21, 01:57
Wow that's great news for me regarding Kinnaree. For all this time I thought it was closed forever so they could build more Russian condos.
The Soi LK Pavilion bars I remember the names of were Geisha and Seven Club.
Soi Boomerang had 4 or 5 BJ bars in 2019. I used to go to 555 because one of my Sapphire girls worked there. Not sure if the current ones are the same bars or new ones.
Read that too. Unfortunate. With Phnom Penh and Jakarta open/ing soon I may switch my initial destination and head to Thailand after. Jakarta is open for 19 countries with 3 days quarantine but you have to apply for a tourist visa rather than the simple Visa on arrival. More importantly, all bars are open! Vietnam was to reopen soon too but COVID has exploded and they are now at 8000 new cases per day.Let's just cross our fingers when it comes to Kinnaree, when I get a chance I will go by and update I do know cruising that many places are gone for good the restrictions have weeded out the wanted bees and it is actually the stronger survives. I'm not a outdoor bar guy nor a GC walking around I don't pay too much attention especially the bars but I do see Seven not sure about Giesha there are a few like two new GoGo one called Catch Me, another Dove, as you know Ninjz gone, Kink sign is still there.
The Baukhao area particularly TreeTown is where it is up and coming especially bars, plenty of cheap places to eat, as noted in one of my few reports on one end of TreeTown is a new GoGo called Candy, inside the lot of TreeTown a new high end GC called Beach Club, up further Soi Buakhao former owner of GC Buka open a hybrid club part GC and GoGo called something like Hot? Blue, Soi Boomerrang you said five I think there are at least 10 now it is like a mini Soi 6?
Personally, while everyone is trying to get in I'm still trying to get out but the problem is I don't care for the requirements of getting back in no matter how they just change the name of the program no matter what you read there is nothing that requires a rush. I think today 12th, the PM meets with the Co vid group it is reported part of the meeting will be to discuss whether to continue the closure of bars and clubs until next year?
Explorer8939
11-12-21, 05:10
As a reminder, there are no bars in Bangkok or Pattaya that are legally open, only restaurants.
When people here discuss new bars, they are referring to establishments awaiting opening.
LittleBigMan
11-12-21, 08:08
B.B , I had a free day needed to get down to Jomtien to my regular home appliance warehouse. On the way, I decided to take the back way and see if Kinnarree situation. From what I could see the building looks the same as before it doesn't look as if they are moving no indication of it. Door signs all the same parking lot across is chain off. The gate was slightly open what seems to be some work in progress, not construction but like cleaning things up may be opening soon!
"all entertainment venues like bars, nightclubs, karaoke lounges, etc. Will remain closed nationally until at least January 15th, 2022. The CCSA meeting would consider the possibility of the business reopening again for January 16th, according to the spokesperson. They did not, however, "guarantee" this as a reopening date. " Again This is nationwide, not just Pattaya.
"there was no specific announcement made about allowing alcohol for dine-in at restaurants in Pattaya, Hua Hin, or other tourist districts like Bangkok or Phuket. ".
https://thepattayanews.com/2021/11/12/thailands-covid-19-center-holds-major-meeting-bars-and-nightlife-opening-postponed-officially-until-next-year-nationally-covid-19-recap-zone-changes/
Explorer8939
11-12-21, 13:31
I stopped by the Camel Toe for a bite to eat, lots of new ladies there.
There was some X-rated stuff going on, but I didn't look closely.
Explorer8939
11-13-21, 03:19
I am back in Pattaya. I arrived yesterday, had dinner at Camel Toe, and had my massage lady come to my place for a quick massage and fuck.
I am very tired today, no mongering today. I would prefer to sit home and rest, but I promised to take a lady to the movies today.
The main thing is that I'm not going to do the drink all day routine any more. The ladies I know mostly have customers, so I am going to pick my spots. Next week, I will spend a few nights at an upscale hotel in Naklua, so I will invite one lady per night. The following week, I am going with my ex to Koh Samui, the next week, I will take her sister to Phuket (that will be a good trick).
Bars here won't open until January, so the ladies will mostly be desperate for customers until then. This is the best of times, and the worst of times.
Arn Poddict
11-13-21, 12:10
The main thing is that I'm not going to do the drink all day routine any more.Why not? Daytime drinking is great fun but you have to know what you're doing.
Do they serve alcohol at hotel bars and restaurants at the moment? I can survive a meal without a beer but if I don't get any drinks at the pool bar that sucks big time.
Explorer8939
11-13-21, 20:06
Why not? Daytime drinking is great fun but you have to know what you're doing.
Do they serve alcohol at hotel bars and restaurants at the moment? I can survive a meal without a beer but if I don't get any drinks at the pool bar that sucks big time.No. Nothing. Nada. No pool bars.
I just booked my first trip from the US to Bangkok in about 15 years. Since the Philippines are off limits, I figured Thailand would be a good replacement. Besides I miss the simplicity of BJ bars and getting rimjobs in massage places. But following the board, I've been sad to learn that all the bars are closed. That said, it sounds like you folks are still having fun there. What are the main venues to get girls now? Thai friendly?
Explorer8939
11-14-21, 05:45
I just booked my first trip from the US to Bangkok in about 15 years. Since the Philippines are off limits, I figured Thailand would be a good replacement. Besides I miss the simplicity of BJ bars and getting rimjobs in massage places. But following the board, I've been sad to learn that all the bars are closed. That said, it sounds like you folks are still having fun there. What are the main venues to get girls now? Thai friendly?Since you are posting in the Pattaya forum, I would suggest going to TreeTown after dark. Daytime, go to almost any massage shop.
Arn Poddict
11-14-21, 16:42
No. Nothing. Nada. No pool bars.Thanks for confirmation. This is cruel. Time to BYOB.
Explorer8939
11-15-21, 00:29
Thanks for confirmation. This is cruel. Time to BYOB.Don't get me wrong, mongering is the best ever in Pattaya, right now. But the bars aren't open.
Arn Poddict
11-15-21, 11:17
Don't get me wrong, mongering is the best ever in Pattaya, right now. But the bars aren't open.Sounds good even if the bars aren't open. What makes the mongering best right now in your opinion? Are there a lot of available P4P ladies in the restaurants and on the streets? Or is the main game in Tinder and TF etc? I have never used those apps in Thailand due to abundance of girls in the bars / massage places.
I am planning a trip soon and thinking if I should stay only in Bangkok or also visit Pattaya. I would really like to stay in Pattaya too as I always do a combination of Bangkok + Pattaya, city + beach destination.
Member #4753
11-15-21, 12:25
Don't get me wrong, mongering is the best ever in Pattaya, right now. But the bars aren't open.I think you should qualify that statement in that it suits your style of action at the moment. Which would be high volumn, reduced prices with looks maybe not as important as the former two points.
I personally don't like the current environment because there are not a lot of new girls arriving and there is only about 10% of girls around as there normally would be. It is difficult to find new girls with well above average looks. They are just not coming to PTY or BKK, and the current crop of hotties all seemed to have grabbed a boyfriend or have gone back to Isan to get them through the covid period.
I think you should qualify that statement in that it suits your style of action at the moment. Which would be high volumn, reduced prices with looks maybe not as important as the former two points.
I personally don't like the current environment because there are not a lot of new girls arriving and there is only about 10% of girls around as there normally would be. It is difficult to find new girls with well above average looks. They are just not coming to PTY or BKK, and the current crop of hotties all seemed to have grabbed a boyfriend or have gone back to Isan to get them through the covid period.100% agree with this. Covid has been the golden time for those who want quantity vs quality and also for those who never could afford to have a girl quit the bar. Also been a great time for cheap charlies, better service for cheap prices.
If you walk around Pattaya day to day you will occasionally see some top level talent but those girls aren't working and have a BF who is maybe sponsoring 30 k or 40 k a month when before she wasn't affordable.
Banana Boi
11-15-21, 23:49
Don't get me wrong, mongering is the best ever in Pattaya, right now. But the bars aren't open.What do you mean by best ever? Bettter than 2015/2016 when there were likely more girls working at Sensations, Baccara, Sapphire, and Skyfall than all available girls currently in Pattaya? I bet the lineup on Soi 7 and Soi 8 back then were even better than what is currently available in all of Pattaya. Sensations alone had 200 girls each night and most were pretty enough to be barfined. How do you compare 2015 Pattaya vs now?
Member #4753
11-16-21, 01:15
If you walk around Pattaya day to day you will occasionally see some top level talent but those girls aren't working and have a BF who is maybe sponsoring 30 k or 40 k a month when before she wasn't affordable.That is so true. I know girls that were earning 100,000+ pre covid but now have boyfriends or 1 or 2 customers that look after them for not that much money. 20 k to 40 k would probably do it.
Member #4753
11-16-21, 01:23
What do you mean by best ever? Bettter than 2015/2016 when there were likely more girls working at Sensations, Baccara, Sapphire, and Skyfall than all available girls currently in Pattaya? I bet the lineup on Soi 7 and Soi 8 back then were even better than what is currently available in all of Pattaya. Sensations alone had 200 girls each night and most were pretty enough to be barfined. How do you compare 2015 Pattaya vs now?I miss those days where you could see 500+ girls in a night buy going to 3 bars pre covid. Even when a dozen or so bars reopened after the first lockdown in 2020 they were not the same. Staff numders were way down and they were struggling to find talent. The whole environment was a little sad.
I miss those days where you could see 500+ girls in a night buy going to 3 bars pre covid. Even when a dozen or so bars reopened after the first lockdown in 2020 they were not the same. Staff numders were way down and they were struggling to find talent. The whole environment was a little sad.Sad indeed. I just keep lurking and checking back for some good news. Finally getting divorced again. Had to create a new account here cause been so long. Pattaya 2010 was awesome, Puckett 2019 OK. Then finally setup for freedom and then ass raped like everyone w COVID lockdowns. Appreciate the posts from those there. Still hopeful worth the travel March 2022. Maybe stay for a few months and payback some karma on reports.
Explorer8939
11-16-21, 05:31
I miss those days where you could see 500+ girls in a night buy going to 3 bars pre covid. Even when a dozen or so bars reopened after the first lockdown in 2020 they were not the same. Staff numders were way down and they were struggling to find talent. The whole environment was a little sad.Walking Street gogos were wildly overpriced pre-Covid, due to the influx of Asian customers who threw money at the ladies. I would go just for the show, usually to take a FOB bargirl for a few drinks.
I'm going to arrive a little before New Years, I'm hoping that there will be enough open to make the trip worthwhile. I'll be using ThaiFriendly a lot and hopefully the massage places off Soi Bukoau are open with a little talent. I don't know what I will do with the rest of my day when I can't hang around Soi 6 or Walking Street apart from more of the same.
I arrived in Bangkok two days ago. In those two days I have received over 100 'likes' in Thai Friendly. That has never happened to me pre-Covid.
And the quality is also much better now. Today I had a lovely 20 yo student, cute as a button, sweet as sugar, perfect body, tight pussy. She only asked for 1700 Baht for a ST. And when I told her I wanted BBFS she didn't even ask for more. I gave her 2000. She was worth it.
I checked the girls in Pattaya in Thai Friendly, because I'm going there tomorrow. The situation looks similar as in BKK, like shooting fish in a barrel.
Not all of them are stunners of course. But the quality is definately better than pre-Covid.
Banana Boi
11-16-21, 15:26
I don't know what I will do with the rest of my day when I can't hang around Soi 6 or Walking Street apart from more of the same.Camel Toe! It's a restaurant so you can eat lunch and dinner there. Just make a day of it. Please take some photos of the food for us. 4.3 rating on this restaurant site so I'm looking forward to some good eats when I get there. https://restaurantguru.com/The-Camel-Toe-Pattaya
Bit Siri
Reiner Otto
11-16-21, 17:32
I arrived in Bangkok two days ago. In those two days I have received over 100 'likes' in Thai Friendly. That has never happened to me pre-Covid.
You might give tinder a try. Actually, I am preparing for Phuket, beginning of December. Got a lot of responses on tinder, higher quality compared to TF.
Arn Poddict
11-16-21, 19:35
I miss those days where you could see 500+ girls in a night buy going to 3 bars pre covid. Even when a dozen or so bars reopened after the first lockdown in 2020 they were not the same. Staff numders were way down and they were struggling to find talent. The whole environment was a little sad.Pattaya in March 2020, before the first Covid lockdown, was already much slower compared to previous years due to lack of Asian punters. But there were still plenty on nice looking girls on the menu in the agogo bars and soi 6 etc. Now when the agogo clubs, soi 6 bars + other bars are closed and even restaurants cannot serve alcohol / beer, there is very little desire for me to travel to Pattaya. Sitting in a food restaurant sipping Diet Coke and scanning for possible working girls is kind of cramping my style. Where is the fun in that? For me Pattaya has always been all about good quality agogo bars and soi 6 daytime action.
Maybe Phuket would be a better option for a beach vacation and a welcomed change to my Pattaya routine. Anyone been in Phuket in the last few weeks, how does the working girl scene compare with Pattaya at the moment?
Chimpo Chinn
11-17-21, 00:21
Pattaya in March 2020, before the first Covid lockdown, was already much slower compared to previous years due to lack of Asian punters. But there were still plenty on nice looking girls on the menu in the agogo bars and soi 6 etc. Now when the agogo clubs, soi 6 bars + other bars are closed and even restaurants cannot serve alcohol / beer, there is very little desire for me to travel to Pattaya. Sitting in a food restaurant sipping Diet Coke and scanning for possible working girls is kind of cramping my style. Where is the fun in that? For me Pattaya has always been all about good quality agogo bars and soi 6 daytime action.
Maybe Phuket would be a better option for a beach vacation and a welcomed change to my Pattaya routine. Anyone been in Phuket in the last few weeks, how does the working girl scene compare with Pattaya at the moment?Trust me on this. Guys like Explorer aren't picky about what kind of Girlies they having fun with. Same with the 500 baht guy.
PattayaJohn
11-17-21, 03:27
I stopped by the Camel Toe for a bite to eat, lots of new ladies there.
There was some X-rated stuff going on, but I didn't look closely.Are the same bar staff still there, the little one with big boobs, Jan, was hot and the one called Pancake was fun.
Explorer8939
11-17-21, 06:12
That is so true. I know girls that were earning 100,000+ pre covid but now have boyfriends or 1 or 2 customers that look after them for not that much money. 20 k to 40 k would probably do it.20 K baht for one month with a gogo top earner. It sounds like that answers the question of what to do during the day if you are stuck in Pattaya during the Covid epidemic. The bars won't open for another 2 months, so if you can afford a lady for $600 a month, you will have your hands full for the next 2 months.
The really hot girls (I. E the ones I really want to fuck), I tend to favour the 'go with the flow' method. Not mention a condom, get them off with oral, slowly go for it.I overcame my unwillingness to eat out working girls because I had found this 18 y / o spinner and wanted to try the go with the flow method as I hadn't been having much luck bringing it up directly. She seemed clean and fresh and came pretty quickly, and at no point either during the evening or the morning sessions did the word "condom" appear in conversation. Very worthwhile. 10/10, would (and hopefully will) smash again.
Walking Street gogos were wildly overpriced pre-Covid, due to the influx of Asian customers who threw money at the ladies. I would go just for the show, usually to take a FOB bargirl for a few drinks.You are a wise Pattaya punter.
Explorer8939
11-18-21, 02:45
There is a trickle of new customers in Pattaya now, so the ladies who were previously desperate for customers now are sometimes busy. What that means for me is that I am getting cancelations at the last minute when ladies get barfined.
Even my ex is getting too busy to come over, she has a new customer boyfriend.
It looks like I will have to go out and find some new ladies the old fashioned way.
The Creaper
11-18-21, 10:45
Are the same bar staff still there, the little one with big boobs, Jan, was hot and the one called Pancake was fun.Not seeing either of them in the current line up list.
Walking around Pattaya is very depressing at the moment. Even though I have seen several video's on Youtube in the last couple of months, seeing in reality how devastating the virus has been to this town has hit me hard.
My favorite hotel, the Dynasty Inn in Soi 13, is closed now. In fact the whole Dynasty Group went down, because their hotels in Bangkok are also closed, and their website is gone.
The nearby Lek hotel and Apex hotel didn't survive either. So no more breakfast buffets there, to my regret.
And La Maison, further down in Soi 13, is also history. The other hotels, and some restaurants and massage parlors are still open, but look barely alive.
The McDonald's and Starbucks (thank god) in the Avenue mall, opposite this soi, are still open. And so is Kiss Food, a little bit further down Second Road.
Central Festival still looks the same. I didn't see any closed shops there, although I didn't check every floor. The supermarket in the basement is still there. And so is the food court, but it's renovated and looks totally different now. Same high prices though.
The supermarket and restaurant in the basement of the Royal Garden Mall are closed. Just like the nearby McDonald's, Starbucks and Hooters.
Hops Brew House is still open. But the Beergarden at the end of Beach Road didn't survive.
The Wave Hotel and LK The Empress are also still open. The latter has a sign outside saying they have a breakfast buffet every morning, so maybe I'll check it out tomorrow.
Tipp Plaza is almost completely deserted. And the Subway in front of it is closed.
So far I have only seen two laundry shops that were open. One in Soi 10 and another one in Soi 13/3. So that can be a practical problem, although most hotels can take care of it as well. Albeit for a higher price usually.
These were just some random observations. I could make a very long list if I wanted, but there's no point in that.
In Thai Friendly I have more than 200 likes already, which is great but making an appointment is still a pain in the ass. First of all because I have a luxury problem: which girl do I choose? Even when I cross out the uglies, fatties and oldies, I still have (too) many nice looking girls to choose from.
And second: a lot of these girls never seem to be online or checking their messages when I am (in the day time mostly). This was a problem for me pre-Covid already, and it still is. Although I must say that the number of girls that is (also) active in the day time, and not just in the night time, is much higher now than pre-Covid.
Yesterday I had a pretty 20 yo, but unfortunately our session was rather disappointing. She looked depressed, and even though she was doing her best to give me a good time. I could not keep my erection, looking at her sad face.
So in the end I jerked off, and finished in her mouth. But she sucked too hard when I came, so it was not a real pleasure. These young girls often don't have the right skills yet, and don't know much about sex in general or sex with old farts like me in particular, LOL.
By the way, when I had finished in her mouth, she looked at me with question marks in her eyes. Just like one of the girls that I had in Bangkok did, a few days ago. It was as if they were asking me: what do you want me to do with it? Spit it out or swallow it? LOL.
I was tempted to say 'swallow', but I didn't. I don't give a damn what they do with it.
And today I had a 22 yo who was much fatter than in her pictures. That doesn't necessarely mean that the session will be bad, but it was the second disappointment in a row, and I was already a little depressed because of the whole situation in Pattaya, so I just wasn't in the mood anymore. So I gave up after 10 minutes or so, and sent her away. The damage was only 1000 Baht, no big deal.
LookingLooking
11-18-21, 15:01
Let me try and summarize the info posted here for Central Pattaya:
1. Agogo, karaoke and beer bars are opened (Buakhao, soi 6, walking street). But they are not opened daily. Perhaps during weekends only? As they don't want to pay more or take risks during weekdays due to lack of customers.
2. On the days they are opened: soi 6 are all open, buakhao are half open, maybe just 10-20% of walking street is open. Check the alleys (or alley within alley), as usual.
3. Treetown is opened daily.
4. Everything still start to close after 9 pm. Maybe with allowance given for an hour or so?
5. Beach road stretch is still has freelancers every night.
Feel free to correct this summary.
No, I have not been able to verify all this on the ground yet.
Mogwai, thanks for your detailed, on the ground, and no doubt accurate report. I usually stay at Whitehouse and spend a lot of time in the area you mentioned. Your report leads me to believe Whitehouse is open. I am eager to return but I'll wait until at least mid-January.
LookingLooking I have not seen any reports of Soi 6 bars being open. I hope you are correct about that but I am skeptical.
Explorer8939
11-19-21, 01:16
Let me try and summarize the info posted here for Central Pattaya:
1. Agogo, karaoke and beer bars are opened (Buakhao, soi 6, walking street). But they are not opened daily. Perhaps during weekends only? As they don't want to pay more or take risks during weekdays due to lack of customers.
2. On the days they are opened: soi 6 are all open, buakhao are half open, maybe just 10-20% of walking street is open. Check the alleys (or alley within alley), as usual.
3. Treetown is opened daily.
4. Everything still start to close after 9 pm. Maybe with allowance given for an hour or so?
5. Beach road stretch is still has freelancers every night.
Feel free to correct this summary.
No, I have not been able to verify all this on the ground yet.1 Nope.
2 Nope.
3 TreeTown is an open area with some restaurants that are open. Lots of people there.
4. More or less.
5 I saw 2 ladies there the other night.
I usually stay at Whitehouse and spend a lot of time in the area you mentioned. Your report leads me to believe Whitehouse is open. I am eager to return but I'll wait until at least mid-January.
Yes, the Whitehouse is open. Waiting until January might be wise, because Pattaya is not even halve alive yet. OTOH, if everybody waits until January then that doesn't help LOL.
Explorer8939
11-19-21, 03:36
I took a holiday from my holiday and spent 3 days at the Cape Dara Resort in Naklua, with 3 different ladies. Big fun in the bathtub. Lots of young HiSo Thai ladies here, but wrapped up like mummies to avoid sunlight. I saw 1 Farang in 3 days.
Now it's back to daily life. I am going to try to limit myself to one lady per day, or else I won't be able to get any work done.
LookingLooking
11-19-21, 05:33
1 Nope.
2 Nope.
3 TreeTown is an open area with some restaurants that are open. Lots of people there.
4. More or less.
5 I saw 2 ladies there the other night.Thanks for the verification.
Will post an updated summary when I come across anything different.
My favorite hotel, the Dynasty Inn in Soi 13, is closed now. In fact the whole Dynasty Group went down, because their hotels in Bangkok are also closed, and their website is gone.A BM told me by IM that the Dynasty Group has just launched their web sites again, and will reopen their hotels soon: https://dynastyinn.com.
So that is great news for all the fans. But you have to send them an email to ask for the opening dates, which is a bit strange. But I guess they don't know it yet, and want to inform you as soon as the dates are clear.
The Wave Hotel and LK The Empress are also still open. The latter has a sign outside saying they have a breakfast buffet every morning, so maybe I'll check it out tomorrow.
I have been to the breakfast buffet of LK The Empress this morning, and it was good. 300 Baht is a steep price though.
It's open between 7 and 11 AM.
Explorer8939
11-19-21, 12:38
I made a minor error today. Some lady who friended me on FB asked to get a massage at her shop on Soi Honey. So, I went in, she did the standard HJ / BJ combo in the middle of the massage, I paid 700 baht for and 300 to the shop, she was not pleased, but, oh well.
Upon leaving the shop, I ran across a lady I have known for some time, obviously not happy I went with another lady.
Explorer8939
11-20-21, 01:19
Okay, so I had a relapse and had 2 ladies come over to drink last night. After about an hour of bargirl stories, they started rubbing my dick. This time, I learned my lesson and redirected them, so it wouldn't be a 3 hour handjob. But, they got naked, and soon were doing lap dances.
I noticed that one would go to the toilet for a long time while the other was working on me. After a few cycles of them alternating, it was time for bed (they had come late because of Loy Krathong), one went home and other stayed for fun in bed. Unfortunately, the one who stayed was the type who was only interested in her orgasm, she fucked until she came, then rolled over and shook for a bit and then fell asleep. If I didn't have 2 shifts coming today, I would have said something, but I don't have to cum every single night.
I noticed that some ladies love to talk about their sponsors, once they know you are not going to be a sponsor. For the ladies, a sponsor is like a freebie for guys here, something for nothing.
I have been to the breakfast buffet at the LK Empress this morning, and it was good. 300 Baht is a steep price though. It's open between 7 and 11 AM.That's double the 150 baht price for the breakfast buffets at the Lek Hotel and the Apex Hotel. But as Mr. Mogwai noted in his very helpful tour d' Pattaya, both of those hotels are currently closed.
At 300 baht, the breakfast buffet at the LK Empress is definitely "steep." That's 15 baht more than Casa Pascal charges. In my view, the buffet at Casa Pascal is the gold standard for breakfast buffets. But the extra 15 baht isn't going to bankrupt any of us, and it's nice to see a new entrant in the field.
I would eagerly read any reports providing more detail about the breakfast buffet at the LK Empress.
https://www.restaurant-in-pattaya.com/breakfastlunch-buffet
Chimpo Chinn
11-20-21, 14:08
That's double the 150 baht price for the breakfast buffets at the Lek Hotel and the Apex Hotel. But as Mr. Mogwai noted in his very helpful tour d' Pattaya, both of those hotels are currently closed.
At 300 baht, the breakfast buffet at the LK Empress is definitely "steep." That's 15 baht more than Casa Pascal charges. In my view, the buffet at Casa Pascal is the gold standard for breakfast buffets. But the extra 15 baht isn't going to bankrupt any of us, and it's nice to see a new entrant in the field.
I would eagerly read any reports providing more detail about the breakfast buffet at the LK Empress.
https://www.restaurant-in-pattaya.com/breakfastlunch-buffet15 baht out of 500 baht for a Hot Agogo girl is 3%-nothing to scoff at Sir.
SouthEaster
11-20-21, 20:24
Where exactly are you finding "hot" gogo girls for 500 baht? I thought that was the going rate for skanks on beach road.
Banana Boi
11-20-21, 23:48
Owner of Sapphire died.
Explorer8939
11-21-21, 01:52
I had dinner in Camel Toe yesterday, and noticed much more activity than a month ago. Whether that's due to an influx of tourists or simply more customers becoming aware of CT, I don't know. Of course, alcohol still isn't served at the Toe.
First off, there are large numbers of available women at the Toe. All types, and the ladies work every other day. There is a constant influx of new ladies, as some ladies hook up with customers long time and stop working.
I suspect that the selection is better earlier in the day, as customers come in and take out ladies for overnight service.
Compared with September when customers were rare, the ladies are quite busy. It's going to be difficult to book a lady ahead of time soon, since they may get taken up by a customer. But we'll see what happens when the bars are open.
I had a terrible girl yesterday afternoon. A young and pretty one again, found in TF. I believe she was 19 or 20. Maybe I should not contact those young ones at all anymore. Not the above average ones anyway.
I could already tell by the look on her face when she entered my room that she could be trouble. Could be, because you can never be really sure beforehand.
She didn't want to give a BJ, and barely allowed me to lick her pussy. So after about 5 minutes I gave up and kicked her out. She was even that bad that I didn't give her any money. The second girl in over 15 years of coming to Thailand that I have kicked out without any money, as far as I can recall.
Hopefully the girl that I'm seeing this afternoon will be better. She's also above average, but she's 25.
ElMexicant
11-21-21, 09:48
I had a terrible girl yesterday afternoon. A young and pretty one again, found in TF. I believe she was 19 or 20. Maybe I should not contact those young ones at all anymore. Not the above average ones anyway.
I could already tell by the look on her face when she entered my room that she could be trouble. Could be, because you can never be really sure beforehand.
She didn't want to give a BJ, and barely allowed me to lick her pussy. So after about 5 minutes I gave up and kicked her out. She was even that bad that I didn't give her any money. The second girl in over 15 years of coming to Thailand that I have kicked out without any money, as far as I can recall.
Hopefully the girl that I'm seeing this afternoon will be better. She's also above average, but she's 25.Hey bro, finally somebody tells the truth. Why not share her TF profile so we can avoid. Sorry to hear about the bad luck.
I had a terrible girl yesterday afternoon. A young and pretty one again, found in TF. I believe she was 19 or 20. Maybe I should not contact those young ones at all anymore. Not the above average ones anyway.
I could already tell by the look on her face when she entered my room that she could be trouble. Could be, because you can never be really sure beforehand.
She didn't want to give a BJ, and barely allowed me to lick her pussy. So after about 5 minutes I gave up and kicked her out. She was even that bad that I didn't give her any money. The second girl in over 15 years of coming to Thailand that I have kicked out without any money, as far as I can recall.
Hopefully the girl that I'm seeing this afternoon will be better. She's also above average, but she's 25.Could you tell us her TF link or handle so we don't waste our time?
Chimpo Chinn
11-21-21, 14:10
My Thai Gangsta friend say pay no matter what level of service you get. Hell no fury like a girl scorned, they will enlist Thai men to put a hurt on you. My Gangsta friend he know, he is on call for situations like yours.
Gents,
I'm planning on taking a trip to Thailand for the first time for New Years. I understand that there's still some uncertainty on the nightlife with COVID but I can't sit here and not travel after a year and a half. I would really appreciate some tips and tricks on places to go, where to drink, and what to look out for, especially with the COVID restrictions. If anyone wants to personally message me on here with some recommendations it would be greatly appreciated. Hopefully everything works out and we can have an awesome trip.
Sebs.
Hopefully the girl that I'm seeing this afternoon will be better. She's also above average, but she's 25.This girl was much better, thank god. Nice girl who's running her own online business, but needs some extra cash every now and then.
Amazing body, no kids and good service. Why aren't they all like that?
Despite the fact that there are a lot of girls in Thai Friendly at the moment, it's not that easy to pick the good ones. I've had five girls this week here in Pattaya, and only two of them have not disappointed me. Today's girl and a 35 yo that I did not write about.
I'm going back to BKK tomorrow. Pattaya is just too depressing. I've attached some random pictures that I took this afternoon in Soi 6, 7 and 8. I think you'll get the picture why this town is so depressing now.
Some bars / restaurants were open, but without any girls and only a few customers. The only girls I saw were working at a couple of massage parlors, and in a sports bar in Soi 6. But they were hardly doable.
ThaiGoodTimes
11-21-21, 15:02
This girl was much better, thank god. Nice girl who's running her own online business, but needs some extra cash every now and then.
Amazing body, no kids and good service. Why aren't they all like that?
Despite the fact that there are a lot of girls in Thai Friendly at the moment, it's not that easy to pick the good ones. I've had five girls this week here in Pattaya, and only two of them have not disappointed me. Today's girl and a 35 yo that I did not write about.
I'm going back to BKK tomorrow. Pattaya is just too depressing. I've attached some random pictures that I took this afternoon in Soi 6, 7 and 8. I think you'll get the picture why this town is so depressing now.
Some bars / restaurants were open, but without any girls and only a few customers. The only girls I saw were working at a couple of massage parlors, and in a sports bar in Soi 6. But they were hardly doable.Come to Phuket.
It's not depressing here.
Arn Poddict
11-21-21, 15:40
This girl was much better, thank god. Nice girl who's running her own online business, but needs some extra cash every now and then.
Amazing body, no kids and good service. Why aren't they all like that?Any pics of the amazing body to be shared? Would be nice to see what quality is available in TF.
15 baht out of 500 baht for a Hot Agogo girl is 3%-nothing to scoff at Sir. Actually, the 285 baht breakfast buffet at Casa Pascal is five percent less expensive than the 300 baht one at the LK Empress. But as I noted in my original post that's not going to break any of us. At the risk of being pedantic, anybody who is numerate knows it's all about the baseline. Five percent off a 300 baht breakfast buffet is meaningless. Five percent off a thirty million baht condo would probably be significant for most of us. But for Elon Musk, not so much.
HorseTrader
11-21-21, 19:02
So after about 5 minutes I gave up and kicked her out. She was even that bad that I didn't give her any money. The second girl in over 15 years of coming to Thailand that I have kicked out without any money, as far as I can recall.About 5 years ago a non working girl was hanging with her working girlfriends at a Samui bar. We got to enjoy talking with each other and we made arrangement for her “first ever” visit to a farang's hotel. The 5 minute walk to my room was done in total silence. Very quick shower together and then to bed. She stiffened up like a board. She rolled away when I touched her and she never initiated touching. After about 5 minutes I said something like "If you don't want to be here, you can leave." She got out of bed, dressed, and was quickly out the door without any money. After about 5 minutes I started to feel guilty and went back to the bar where she was sitting alone. I gave her a few baht, maybe 200 or 300 baht. She politely thanked me.
After that I realized I could never again send away a girl without any money. Many times I've sent a girl away for various reasons, but I always give a little money. Sometimes I give that money because Im afraid what might happen. Sometime I give money because I want to help her.
Hey bro, finally somebody tells the truth. Why not share her TF profile so we can avoid. Sorry to hear about the bad luck.
Could you tell us her TF link or handle so we don't waste our time?She has blocked me in TF, and I cannot recall what her handle was.
Any pics of the amazing body to be shared? Would be nice to see what quality is available in TF.Sorry, I didn't take any pictures of her. And I doubt she would have allowed it anyway.
After that I realized I could never again send away a girl without any money. Many times I've sent a girl away for various reasons, but I always give a little money. Sometimes I give that money because Im afraid what might happen. Sometime I give money because I want to help her.I usually give them some money too, when the service was below par. How much I give depends on the girl, the situation and the service that was (not) provided. If I know there could be a pimp around, I give the full amount.
All of the 'service' that this girl gave me was a lousy hand job. I could have consired the barely allowed DATY as 'service' as well, but I was just too angry.
And she didn't say anything anymore, didn't get angry and didn't ask for money either. She just got dressed and walked out of the door.
She did sent me some angry messages in TF about 5 minutes later. She called me 'buffalo' and said some other nasty but incoherent stuff. Her English was rather poor, so I think she used Google translate.
Explorer8939
11-22-21, 06:34
I am not understanding why anyone is ordering ladies off the internet, when you can see them in person at TreeTown or Camel Toe. Dozens and dozens of ladies looking for customers.
AussieGuy100
11-22-21, 06:42
While you are waiting for the Pattaya bars to reopen, consider a quick trip to Phnom Penh. Visa easy to get, no quarantine for vaccinated travellers and a god bar scene now.
I can confirm that 90% of the girly bars are open in Phnom Penh. The official full open date is 1st December but most of the bars are open already. Plenty of girls around, with more arriving daily from their provinces. ST and LT prices very negotiable with the girls keen to meet guys. Streets 130 and 136 still have the highest concentration of bars, with streets 104,110, 118 and 5 also having some open bars. Drinks prices are reasonable. Draft beer $1. 50, spirits $3. 75, ladydrinks $3. 50-$4. Local hotels doing some amazing deals as well.
Crocodilexp
11-22-21, 07:29
After that I realized I could never again send away a girl without any money. Many times I've sent a girl away for various reasons, but I always give a little money. Sometimes I give that money because Im afraid what might happen. Sometime I give money because I want to help her.This is a good idea. I believe a token sum, even if it's just 200 baht, closes our transaction.
If she left without payment and didn't speak up, she can claim she was intimidated, I lied, and so on. If she accepted the token sum without complaining, then it's clear that ends any obligations towards each other, for better or worse. She might be unhappy, but clearly I was unhappy too, and we split the difference.
This is a good idea. I believe a token sum, even if it's just 200 baht, closes our transaction.....As long as she was naked especially if I touched her body giving her money would be the proper thing to do. I look at it as I am in a much more financially privileged position than she is so its the right thing to do.
HorseTrader
11-22-21, 15:55
As long as she was naked especially if I touched her body giving her money would be the proper thing to do. I look at it as I am in a much more financially privileged position than she is so its the right thing to do.Yes, being naked seems to be a reasonable line of demarcation for a girl I meet somewhere and then bring to my hotel.
What about the case where you meet someone online and she travels to your hotel but does not please you? I've only done this a couple of times in Thailand and I was pleased as soon as I met her in the hotel lobby. I don't know how I would react if a different girl showed up or if her appearance was a major downgrade from online pictures. Attitude also enters into the equation.
Explorer8939
11-23-21, 01:00
I went to Camel Toe to check out the army of new ladies. Loads of ladies new to this restaurant, all types from spinners to MILFs. I went with a MILF (we had arranged to meet before). She had some drinks and spilled her guts about the other ladies, but then she started getting jealous of the lady I am taking to Koh Samui for 4 days. Not really jealous, but bargirl jealous. Anyway, she was enthusiastic about giving me sloppy BJs while we drank, but the actual sex was almost anticlimactic, she just wanted me to finish fast and went back to drinking. Then she got so wasted, she couldn't get under the covers and froze all night in bed, I had to wrap her in towels.
There may be drama today. I am taking my ex to Koh Samui, since she has begged me for a month to take her. But my ex, who works in Camel Toe, has a new customer on the hook, he is ready to have her move into her place. So, if she were smart, she would tell me she can't go with me today. I would get mad, but her new customer would appreciate it, and it would be better for her long time. But, being a bargirl, she will go for the short term benefit and try to lie to her new customer about what she is doing in Samui. Anyway, if she decides not to go, I will be fine in Samui alone.
One of my massage ladies realized I haven't seen her in a week, so she pulled the guilt trip on me. I told her I will be out of town for a while, great sadness ensued. Anyway, I will have her come over for an overnighter before her rent is due.
There are probably 500 or so new "tourists" coming to Pattaya every day. Maybe some are ex-pats and some are tourists. So TreeTown gets more people, and restaurants with ladies get more customers, but 500 people can't make a dent in the massage shops, there are still so many that don't have many customers.
The sister of my ex is angling to somehow get into pole position with me, now that her sister is almost hooked up with a new boyfriend. She has 2 disadvantages, she lives with a Thai boyfriend and she doesn't like to fuck. She is constantly pleading to go somewhere with me. And to come drink in my place. She wants to drink with another lady, but has the problem that some ladies when they get drunk, they like to feel her up, or lick her pussy. So, next time she comes, she is bringing someone new, she looks like a fairly hot civvie.
Last note: it's my practice, if I go to a bar a lot, is to buy drinks for the mamasan. It's always good to have the mamasan like you, much more than the Farang manager. If you are in with the mamasan, she will alert you to new ladies, especially FOB ladies. And help you with problems with the ladies.
I am not understanding why anyone is ordering ladies off the internet, when you can see them in person at TreeTown or Camel Toe. Dozens and dozens of ladies looking for customers.For me the answer to that is simple: I need to know beforehand if they offer BBFS, because I hate condoms, and asking that discreetly in a full bar or restaurant is difficult. I cannot keep it up anymore when it's wrapped in rubber, so 'going with the flow' is not an option for me anymore. I used to do that in the past, up to about 10 years ago or so, but the success rate was too low and I had enough of all the disappointments.
And apart from that I don't like being in the centre of attention, when dozens of girls want to go with me. I have never liked beer bars as well, for the same reason. Or agogo's with only a few customers.
Chimpo Chinn
11-23-21, 13:42
As long as she was naked especially if I touched her body giving her money would be the proper thing to do. I look at it as I am in a much more financially privileged position than she is so its the right thing to do.Say you had a deal for 2,000. Girl take 200 and leave with no drama. I wouldn't take it as a MOVE ON. ID worry as to the girls frame of mind. Lots of Thai girls are vicious as Hell. A 80 lb isan girl would be Stupid to try and physically get full payment from a Hulking Tipsy Norwegian. But a call to the local Taxi Guys might be in order.
Yes, being naked seems to be a reasonable line of demarcation for a girl I meet somewhere and then bring to my hotel.
What about the case where you meet someone online and she travels to your hotel but does not please you? I've only done this a couple of times in Thailand and I was pleased as soon as I met her in the hotel lobby. I don't know how I would react if a different girl showed up or if her appearance was a major downgrade from online pictures. Attitude also enters into the equation.I've never had a different girl show up or even a downgrade so major as to be a problem, as I've had so few online encounters in my travels. However, if I did not want the session I'd probably give her transportation money plus a little extra for her time.
Explorer8939
11-24-21, 09:25
Camel Toe restaurant has a new lady recruiter who used to find girls for Walking Street gogos. Which means that former gogo ladies are showing up to work at Camel Toe. Big competition for the MILFs there.
And apart from that I don't like being in the centre of attention, when dozens of girls want to go with me. I have never liked beer bars as well, for the same reason. Or agogo's with only a few customers.I agree with this. I don't really want the girl to hang on me and I don't want to be the center of attention in public. It makes me self conscious and uncomfortable. Talking is fine as long as I'm not being barraged with requests.
I saw some videos on youtube where the hotels are charging 500 baht to allow the girls in room.
Any recommended hotel that does not charge to take girls inside the room? I am trying to stay near walking street or beach so it can be easy to get to the bars and action.
BTW nice posts Mogwai, CIMGuy, Horsetrader and Explorer.
Explorer8939
11-25-21, 00:36
I saw some videos on youtube where the hotels are charging 500 baht to allow the girls in room.
Any recommended hotel that does not charge to take girls inside the room? I am trying to stay near walking street or beach so it can be easy to get to the bars and action.
BTW nice posts Mogwai, CIMGuy, Horsetrader and Explorer.When you book a hotel room, be sure to book for 2 people. That eliminates the 500 baht joiner fee.
Explorer8939
11-25-21, 06:17
I lost my #2 massage lady. She was coming over to do overnights for 2,000 baht about once a week, showing up after work, and staying until the morning.
Well, she got pouty about coming once a week, and why I took another lady to Samui. So, I got some nasty messages.
El Frances
11-25-21, 10:21
I saw some videos on youtube where the hotels are charging 500 baht to allow the girls in room.
Any recommended hotel that does not charge to take girls inside the room? I am trying to stay near walking street or beach so it can be easy to get to the bars and action.
BTW nice posts Mogwai, CIMGuy, Horsetrader and Explorer.I would tend to think that most hotels in the Soi Bukhao soi Diana area are GF. There may be also some listings you can get on google by typing girl friendly hotels pattaya.
In any case, send an email to the hotel in order to check they don't charge a joiner fee. No reason to be shy to do that.
Never make a booking without getting direct confirmation (email you can show) from the hotel that they don't charge a joiner fee if you bring a girl to your room.
They will always ask for the girl's ID for security reason, so make sure the girl has an ID before bringing her.
When you book a hotel room, be sure to book for 2 people. That eliminates the 500 baht joiner fee.Thanks Explorer8939, that's good to know and practical too.
Also thanks El Frances.
I saw some videos on youtube where the hotels are charging 500 baht to allow the girls in room.
Any recommended hotel that does not charge to take girls inside the room? I am trying to stay near walking street or beach so it can be easy to get to the bars and action.
BTW nice posts Mogwai, CIMGuy, Horsetrader and Explorer.I would suggest Dream Hotel and P72. Never had any problem with them.
Banana Boi
11-25-21, 23:52
I lost my #2 massage lady. She was coming over to do overnights for 2,000 baht about once a week, showing up after work, and staying until the morning.
Well, she got pouty about coming once a week, and why I took another lady to Samui. So, I got some nasty messages.She'll be back once she realizes that she is missing 2000 baht weekly income.
Explorer8939
11-26-21, 01:32
Bar girls lie.
Yeah, I know, that's a shocking revelation. But, a lot of guys forget that when the little head takes over.
In the bars I frequent (actually restaurants), I have known some of the ladies for many years, and they tend to be pretty truthful, since there is nothing to gain from lying to me. But, the newer ladies will lie constantly to me. Fortunately for me, there's a lot of rivalry for customers, so the other ladies will fill me in on the dirt for ladies they don't like.
I had one lady tell me she doesn't like Thai men, why would she go with a Thai man? The next lady told me all about that lady's Thai boyfriend, a moto driver.
My ex tells me she has a regular customer, but he only barfines her in the day, she tells him she has a daughter and cannot spend the night. But, according to her, he is only a customer, not the boyfriend. The next lady told me they are house hunting together, which my ex verified when she was drunk.
Of course, the ladies lie about not having customers, but then they post Facebook photos of themselves in hotel rooms.
The point is to ignore what the ladies tell you, and only think about what's in front of you right now.
El Frances
11-26-21, 11:30
When you book a hotel room, be sure to book for 2 people. That eliminates the 500 baht joiner fee.It surely doesn't work the same in all hotels.
Some hotels would accept it only if you have only one girl for your whole staying, otherwise you have to pay a joiner fee even if you have booked a double. Some hotels would accept any girl provided you have booked a double, and some hotels will accept girls WITHOUT needing to book a double.
That's why it's necessary to get the exact rules from the hotel.
It surely doesn't work the same in all hotels.
Some hotels would accept it only if you have only one girl for your whole staying, otherwise you have to pay a joiner fee even if you have booked a double. Some hotels would accept any girl provided you have booked a double, and some hotels will accept girls WITHOUT needing to book a double.
That's why it's necessary to get the exact rules from the hotel.True this. In the eyes of many hotels there is a difference between a registered guest and a joiner. A registered guest can request a room key, charge items to the room, etc. A joiner is considered to be visiting you at the hotel, so they don't have these rights.
Some hotels allow free Thai national joiners, but charge for non-Thai's. Others will allow one or two joiners gratis per day, and will charge you after that. It is important to understand each hotels individual policies if you intend to be active in this area. The spectrum of rules is wide.
I lost my #2 massage lady. She was coming over to do overnights for 2,000 baht about once a week, showing up after work, and staying until the morning.
Well, she got pouty about coming once a week, and why I took another lady to Samui. So, I got some nasty messages.I predict make-up sex is in your future.
SL.
I lost my #2 massage lady. She was coming over to do overnights for 2,000 baht about once a week, showing up after work, and staying until the morning.
Well, she got pouty about coming once a week, and why I took another lady to Samui. So, I got some nasty messages.So she could fool around in other days of the week but you shouldn't? LOL.
Explorer8939
11-27-21, 00:36
So she could fool around in other days of the week but you shouldn't? LOL.The official position of massage lady #2 is she had zero customers.
But I don't pretend to understand bargirl logic.
Explorer8939
11-27-21, 00:53
I go back today for the Pattaya Fireworks festival. My condo overlooks Pattaya bay, so some ladies have asked to come over and watch the fireworks from my condo. My ex is coming back from Samui with me, so she will be staying for the fireworks, too. Which means the visiting ladies won't be boning me.
My ex will be living with her new Farang boyfriend in February. You would think that she would be rushing to see him when she returns to Pattaya today, but she has arranged to see me on Monday, and then will come to Bangkok with me on Thursday. So, I guess she is trying to get her last licks in with me, before he officially becomes the Boyfriend.
So, as my ex settles in with her boyfriend, other ladies are beginning to jostle for pole position with me. Specifically, her twin sister, and now her attractive young civvie niece is making noises. The twin sister will be going to Phuket with me in 10 days. But, yeah, if you are wondering how to find new ladies, friends and family of a current barfine may be fair game.
Other news: the Federal government has confirmed that January 16 is the day that bars are open nationwide. But Pattaya is attempting to open bars sooner, maybe December 12. Bummer for me, since the ladies will be booked up when the bars are open.
Thanks Geyser, Frances and others.
New corona detected in South africa. The thai pass excluded the 8 african countries now. Everything else remains same. 60+ country nationals are allowed to enter Kingdom of Thailand as per new rules. In short, nothing changed for most of us. Hope, the virus does not spread too much before my planned visit in January.
Explorer8939
11-28-21, 00:31
So, I had 2 ladies over to drink, but my ex hung around to get some tequila, too. Of course, she completely cock blocked me, basically sat on my lap the whole time. The ladies were dying to get naked, but didn't want my ex to get angry, so no fun there.
We drank until the fireworks show ended. The only issue problem was an issue with their bar where some moron insisted on taking short time ladies for 4 hours, IE long time, but only paying for short time. No one knew how to deal with that. Calls were going back and forth, until the customer just gave up and left.
My ex dashed out early to go to some party to chase Thai boys. She did post a photo of herself with the new lady coming to see me today, she's a cutie. Apparently she had a sponsor when she worked bar before, but due to Covid, she is working factory now and hooked up with a Thai boyfriend. Anyway, I was pretty tired due to my travels, and not in the mood for further fun, so I had to push the two remaining ladies out the door, although I am sure either would have appreciated a long time "date."
Tonight, I am having a bar mamasan come over. She is past her self-by date as a bar girl, but still okay. I see she has 1,000 Facebook friends from abroad, and who knows how many guys on Line, so when the bars open, she is going to be busy. But I am sure she will pitch me to be the Girlfriend tonight, since she knows that it's not 100% sure bars will really open.
Of course, not being stupid, I don't commit to any bar girl. I am rotating the ladies, and as long as I don't do anything stupid, I can have fresh (to me) pussy every day without trying the Thai Friendly lottery.
StudBucket
11-28-21, 05:38
Thanks Geyser, Frances and others.
New corona detected in South africa. The thai pass excluded the 8 african countries now. Everything else remains same. 60+ country nationals are allowed to enter Kingdom of Thailand as per new rules. In short, nothing changed for most of us. Hope, the virus does not spread too much before my planned visit in January.Yes, this virus could be a game changer again and possibly could extend the restrictions on nightlife and alcohol sales. This virus is 500% more contageous than the Delta variant and is expected to spread to all continents. Here we go again.
Daytonamonger
11-28-21, 11:39
I would suggest Dream Hotel and P72. Never had any problem with them.I can also attest to P72 being a great place to stay. I've never eaten at their restaurant but their rooms are clean comfortable and never had any issues with guests coming to visit me at the hotel.
ElMexicant
11-28-21, 14:32
Other news: the Federal government has confirmed that January 16 is the day that bars are open nationwide. But Pattaya is attempting to open bars sooner, maybe December 12. Bummer for me, since the ladies will be booked up when the bars are open.Actually, the wording is "no earlier" than Jan 16 and there is no guarantee with that date either. Especially with Omicron in the news. Phuket and Bangla is already in some heat. I received some good intel on the bars, clubs, alcohol, and nightlife situation. All you have to do is Google "largest liquor owner Thailand" and "largest landlord Thailand. " And if people are smart, they will make the connection with the answer to those search terms and the connection to the incoming Chinese investors and developers. When you have monopoly, you can just sit on it, while driving out whoever you want. If you want them out, then make them go out of business. You control all the most important assets, and it's not in the structures or bars these business owners think have value. It's the land. Shit! Even the McDonald's guy figured that one out.
Interesting comment as I just saw a noted expert on the virus who frequently appears on US tv who said that the virus does not appear, based on available data, to be any more contagious than other variants. He specifically criticized European leaders for over reacting to the SouthAfrican variant — a bit like your "500%" statement.
Yes, this virus could be a game changer again and possibly could extend the restrictions on nightlife and alcohol sales. This virus is 500% more contageous than the Delta variant and is expected to spread to all continents. Here we go again.
Interesting comment as I just saw a noted expert on the virus who frequently appears on US tv who said that the virus does not appear, based on available data, to be any more contagious than other variants. He specifically criticized European leaders for over reacting to the SouthAfrican variant a bit like your "500%" statement.I have heard exactly the opposite from other well-known experts. That it absolutely is more contagious, but whether it is more deadly is still unknown. In any event, now is not the time to panic.
ElMexicant
11-28-21, 15:36
Interesting comment as I just saw a noted expert on the virus who frequently appears on US tv who said that the virus does not appear, based on available data, to be any more contagious than other variants. He specifically criticized European leaders for over reacting to the SouthAfrican variant a bit like your "500%" statement.Official statement of the WHO:
This variant has a large number of mutations, some of which are concerning. Preliminary evidence suggests an increased risk of reinfection with this variant, as compared to other VOCs. The number of cases of this variant appears to be increasing in almost all provinces in South Africa. Current SARS-CoV-2 PCR diagnostics continue to detect this variant. Several labs have indicated that for one widely used PCR test, one of the three target genes is not detected (called S gene dropout or S gene target failure) and this test can therefore be used as marker for this variant, pending sequencing confirmation. Using this approach, this variant has been detected at faster rates than previous surges in infection, suggesting that this variant may have a growth advantage.
https://www.indiatoday.in/coronavirus-outbreak/story/who-designates-nu-african-as-variant-of-concern-eu-bans-travel-from-south-africa-1881356-2021-11-26
StudBucket
11-28-21, 20:10
Interesting comment as I just saw a noted expert on the virus who frequently appears on US tv who said that the virus does not appear, based on available data, to be any more contagious than other variants. He specifically criticized European leaders for over reacting to the South African variant a bit like your "500%" statement.So, I did not make up the up to 500%. This was on the news. The concern has come over the fact that the virus has 30 variants making it very concerning to scientitsts. Right now, in the US, they are looking at possible boosters just for this in the event our regular vaccines don't offer protection. It is too early to tell but our hopes are that the virus be contained. Currently, many countries have already implemented travel bans from South Africa and 6 African nations or more due to the concern. This was not done for other variants like Lambda.
This article was taken from a respected news source:
It is distinct from other variants in another critical way: There's a greater number of mutations. Tulio de Oliveira, director of the Center for Epidemic Response and Innovation in South Africa, said there are more than 30 mutations in the spike protein, the part of the virus that binds to human cells, allowing it to gain entry.
Scientists say omicron could be more transmissible and better at evading the body's immune defenses, making vaccines less effective. The WHO said Friday that preliminary evidence suggests an "increased risk of reinfection" compared to other variants.
Again, lets just hope the virus gets contained or tamed down and Delta remains the majority.
El Moreno 92
11-29-21, 00:01
Anyone know if Lolitas on Soi Chaiyapoon is still open?
LittleBigMan
11-29-21, 00:32
Anyone know if Lolitas on Soi Chaiyapoon is still open?Lolitas is closed, I will need to take another look at the front of the building my drive by in the past it looked from the front that it might be closed for good? As for the Soi also known as Soi Potholes it is still there with potholes recently filled in a bit the bars are still closed except for one or two sneaking around many of the massage places are open but the popular Amon is closed that is during my drive daytime.
I can also attest to P72 being a great place to stay. I've never eaten at their restaurant but their rooms are clean comfortable and never had any issues with guests coming to visit me at the hotel.Particularly if you stay in the "new" section which is on the other side of the Soi from reception. The rooms are newer and you take girls up with out showing ID. With the way Walking Street is at the moment I don't know if I would stay there as you may be well away from the action. I have had breakfast once and it was OK but I only remember eating because of the girl serving me at the time.
Dave The Expl
11-29-21, 06:27
Yes, this virus could be a game changer again and possibly could extend the restrictions on nightlife and alcohol sales. This virus is 500% more contageous than the Delta variant and is expected to spread to all continents. Here we go again.Wow so now it's "This virus is 500% more contagious than the Delta variant" sounds like fear porn when we are just learning about it. Maybe after some true data and not just speculation chicken little and the boy who cried wolf can get together for a 500% crisis alarm.
ChocoJelly
11-29-21, 11:48
I'm sure not as many bars open anymore.
If anyone is there this weekend, IE week beginning December.
Please let me know what the bar opening situation is so excited for my second trip.
Chimpo Chinn
11-30-21, 00:03
I'm sure not as many bars open anymore.
If anyone is there this weekend, IE week beginning December.
Please let me know what the bar opening situation is so excited for my second trip.You will be absolutely dis-appointed.
LittleBigMan
11-30-21, 00:30
Wow so now it's "This virus is 500% more contagious than the Delta variant" sounds like fear porn when we are just learning about it. Maybe after some true data and not just speculation chicken little and the boy who cried wolf can get together for a 500% crisis alarm.Bravo! If this was true being Thailand and its lack of leadership everyone should be packing up or making their last Will and Trust!
Explorer8939
11-30-21, 00:33
I'm sure not as many bars open anymore.
If anyone is there this weekend, IE week beginning December.
Please let me know what the bar opening situation is so excited for my second trip.Soi 6 is closed.
TreeTown is your best bet, followed by Camel Toe restaurant. I am hearing that there are 26 ladies working at Camel Toe, and they are busier than before Covid. I see on Facebook that Heaven club in Pratumnak is open as a pizza place with ladies, so I will check it out.
I am off to Bangkok for a few days to see the bars. I am bringing 2 ladies from Pattaya, 2 days apiece.
Meanwhile, I had a Mamasan over for drinks, but she was a lightweight, and passed out in my bed fairly quickly. Next time, there will be less drinking and more fucking. I hope.
The new lady showed up the other night, a bit chunkier than I had hoped, and zero English. After some drinking, she grabbed my arm, and was rubbing my hand all over her for the rest of the night, she wouldn't let go, except when she was doing lap dances. But, the next day, she complained to my ex that she was scared of me since I was pawing her. Maybe she felt guilty after going home to see her husband.
The bars are still scheduled to open on January 16, which will be the day the ladies in my fan club forget about me. I was planning to leave Thailand about that date, maybe to go to Cambodia, but Omicron might force me to stay inside Thailand for a while.
My ex clearly has a new customer "boyfriend" lined up, the only question is when she moves in with him. Her twin sister is trying to figure out how to get into pole position, despite having a Thai boyfriend, and not liking to fuck (her Thai boyfriend has an injury and can't fuck on demand). I have a few more weeks of alternating between the twins.
The big lesson from Covid has been for Farangs living in Pattaya NOT to get tied down by a Thai lady, those poor fucks have to sneak out for quickies. I have been fucking an ever changing rotation of 20 or 30 ladies since my ex moved out, no reason for changing the rotation for a single lady. And, with the bars opening next month, most ladies will be anxious to grab as many customers as possible. Already, guys in Europe and America are messaging their plans to come to Pattaya Real Soon Now to ladies. Once a lady runs into a "customer before", her allegiance to her current Farang boyfriend gets real shaky, and that's how they end up single working bar again.
ChocoJelly
11-30-21, 10:50
Hello,
So is everyone saying to not bother with Pattaya?
Since bars are closed, very little in terms of mongering.
Would Bangkok or Phuket be better right now?
Soi 6 is closed.
TreeTown is your best bet, followed by Camel Toe restaurant. I am hearing that there are 26 ladies working at Camel Toe, and they are busier than before Covid. I see on Facebook that Heaven club in Pratumnak is open as a pizza place with ladies, so I will check it out.
I am off to Bangkok for a few days to see the bars. I am bringing 2 ladies from Pattaya, 2 days apiece.
Meanwhile, I had a Mamasan over for drinks, but she was a lightweight, and passed out in my bed fairly quickly. Next time, there will be less drinking and more fucking. I hope.
The new lady showed up the other night, a bit chunkier than I had hoped, and zero English. After some drinking, she grabbed my arm, and was rubbing my hand all over her for the rest of the night, she wouldn't let go, except when she was doing lap dances. But, the next day, she complained to my ex that she was scared of me since I was pawing her. Maybe she felt guilty after going home to see her husband.
The bars are still scheduled to open on January 16, which will be the day the ladies in my fan club forget about me. I was planning to leave Thailand about that date, maybe to go to Cambodia, but Omicron might force me to stay inside Thailand for a while.
My ex clearly has a new customer "boyfriend" lined up, the only question is when she moves in with him. Her twin sister is trying to figure out how to get into pole position, despite having a Thai boyfriend, and not liking to fuck (her Thai boyfriend has an injury and can't fuck on demand). I have a few more weeks of alternating between the twins.
The big lesson from Covid has been for Farangs living in Pattaya NOT to get tied down by a Thai lady, those poor fucks have to sneak out for quickies. I have been fucking an ever changing rotation of 20 or 30 ladies since my ex moved out, no reason for changing the rotation for a single lady. And, with the bars opening next month, most ladies will be anxious to grab as many customers as possible. Already, guys in Europe and America are messaging their plans to come to Pattaya Real Soon Now to ladies. Once a lady runs into a "customer before", her allegiance to her current Farang boyfriend gets real shaky, and that's how they end up single working bar again.Hmm feels sad to know, but I think it is fine as long as you are getting the love from other ladies anyways. I always move on. In such situations. Good as a rock, always rocking.
I have planned only 2 weeks in Bangkok while 6 weeks are in Pattaya, hope its right decision in January.
WonderWander
11-30-21, 15:27
Anyone have used the services of "Linda Srey"? If so, what are your thoughts? Worth it?
Chimpo Chinn
11-30-21, 18:57
Hmm feels sad to know, but I think it is fine as long as you are getting the love from other ladies anyways. I always move on. In such situations. Good as a rock, always rocking.
I have planned only 2 weeks in Bangkok while 6 weeks are in Pattaya, hope its right decision in January.One day in Pattaya rest in Bangkok would be my choice.
Do you like drinking with Thais on Benches in Tree Town?
Explorer8939
12-01-21, 02:03
Hello,
So is everyone saying to not bother with Pattaya?
Since bars are closed, very little in terms of mongering.
Would Bangkok or Phuket be better right now?In my personal opinion, this is the best time for mongering in Pattaya I have experienced. But, it's not a good time for guys who want to see hundreds of ladies in gogos.
There are plenty of ladies hungry for customers, but you have to go to TreeTown, Camel Toe, or a handful of other places. I get pinged by ladies all day, every day, looking for customers.
Banana Boi
12-01-21, 05:09
Hello,
So is everyone saying to not bother with Pattaya?
Since bars are closed, very little in terms of mongering.
Would Bangkok or Phuket be better right now? I'd wait for Thailand. What's the rush? it will still be there 3, 4, 6 months from now when bars reopen. I'd pick Bangkok over Pattaya now due to restrictions.
Phnom Penh. Bars have recently reopened. No quarantine. As long as you're vaccinated you're in.
Jakarta. Bars have been open for some time. A few days quarantine in Bali if you are from one of 19 countries. Get a hut in a resort on a beach facing the ocean and quarantine will be pretty enjoyable.
HorseTrader
12-01-21, 06:16
I'd wait for Thailand. What's the rush? it will still be there 3, 4, 6 months from now when bars reopen. I'd pick Bangkok over Pattaya now due to restrictions.I have a different philosophy. I already bought refundable airline tickets for my January and March international flights. If Thailand doesn't improve by flight time, I'll get a refund. I'll address test-and-go things, visa, and Thailand pass soon. I'll worry about hotels and domestic flights about two weeks before travel time.
Regarding airline prices, I've never seen a greater pricing disparity from airline-to-airline or from schedule-to-schedule. For my travel needs, I've seen round trip economy seats ranging from $700 to $4000, premium economy from $1400 to $24,000 and business class from $4500 to $30,000. Of course, the prices change frequently.
One day in Pattaya rest in Bangkok would be my choice.
Do you like drinking with Thais on Benches in Tree Town?Hmm so there is not much going on in Pattaya it seems. Alright, everything I booked is refundable. I will stay in Bangkok and keep checking about Pattaya possibilities.
Explorer8939
12-01-21, 11:42
I am in Bangkok with a lady from Pattaya. Tomorrow, a taxi will bring another lady, and the lady with me now will take the same taxi back to Pattaya. This is a fairly dangerous maneuver, not to be tried by newbies.
On Saturday, I will have a Mamasan come over to drink and show me what she can do. She is close to that point where she is going into Grandma mode, but also has 1,000 foreign men as friends on Facebook, so she must be doing something right.
On Sunday, I have a factory lady coming to drink. Last time she came with a neighbor, and having someone from her home stifled her. So this time, I am pairing her with a lady she doesn't know, but is a friend of her neighbor. In other words, no one to tell her husband what she does. So I expect her to loosen up. I have warned her partner not to get too crazy with this lady, IE don't fuck me in front of her.
One lady is sad because her Thai boyfriend ran out on her. Big surprise, she's not making the big coin anymore, so he is out. She's coming to drink away her sorrows Sunday night.
Chimpo Chinn
12-01-21, 15:05
Hmm so there is not much going on in Pattaya it seems. Alright, everything I booked is refundable. I will stay in Bangkok and keep checking about Pattaya possibilities.Watching a live eride thru Pattaya at 9 pm Thai time.
It's worse than I thought.
I'd allocate Zero days to Pattaya.
All Bangkok. Soi 4 Bars seems to be doing a brisk business.
I'm sure you could find acceptable Prostitute s among the crowd.
ElMexicant
12-01-21, 15:07
Hey bros,
It seems if some of the gogo and Soi 6 girls are now doing porn films to survive. Anybody know more? Scares me a bit seeing this guy's list and where it's been. Makes me want to cover.
El Frances
12-01-21, 15:39
The latest news are that restaurants and other businesses (but not bars and other night entertainment venues) will be allowed to open late (I. E. Midnight), but Chonburi governor still forbids sales of alcohol in restaurants.
So it's getting a bit better, but nothing to compare with Bangkok or Phuket yet.
HorseTrader
12-01-21, 18:20
I am in Bangkok with a lady from Pattaya. This seems like bringing a ham sandwich to a banquet, why? I understand bringing your ham sandwich to Samui, there are few options there now. But Bangkok I don't understand. Are your Pattaya ladies super hotties?
I would understand if you were in a relationship or trying to build one, but that doesn't seem to be the case.
This seems like bringing a ham sandwich to a banquet, why? I understand bringing your ham sandwich to Samui, there are few options there now. But Bangkok I don't understand. Are your Pattaya ladies super hotties?
I would understand if you were in a relationship or trying to build one, but that doesn't seem to be the case.I don't understand why you would need to understand what he does? To each their own. Each person has their own banquet menu.
Chimpo Chinn
12-01-21, 20:19
Hey bros,
It seems if some of the gogo and Soi 6 girls are now doing porn films to survive. Anybody know more? Scares me a bit seeing this guy's list and where it's been. Makes me want to cover.You should have been covering from the git go.
What do you think these girls are doing?
You don't. See the issue.
Mr Enternational
12-01-21, 20:34
I don't understand why you would need to understand what he does? To each their own. Because he may turn him on to something that he had not thought of before.
Banana Boi
12-01-21, 23:12
Popular saying in Thailand "you don't bring sand to the beach".
Explorer8939
12-02-21, 00:57
This seems like bringing a ham sandwich to a banquet, why? I understand bringing your ham sandwich to Samui, there are few options there now. But Bangkok I don't understand. Are your Pattaya ladies super hotties?
I would understand if you were in a relationship or trying to build one, but that doesn't seem to be the case.A personal quirk: I live in Pattaya, but get tired of seeing the same 4 walls of my condo every day. So, I go away for a few days, and when I do, I take one of my drinking ladies with me. Sometimes I stay in an upscale hotel in Pattaya, this time I went to Bangkok. It does build the relationship with the 20 or so ladies in my rotation, since they all like to travel, and most customers never take them anywhere.
Today, my "ex" is coming for a couple of days. She's got a customer hooked pretty well, so it's a goodbye tour for her. I will barfine her 2 or 3 more times, and then she will stop work to go live with her new boyfriend. Boo-hoo.
Explorer8939
12-02-21, 01:02
You should have been covering from the git go.
What do you think these girls are doing?
You don't. See the issue.Some years ago, I was the first customer for a lady from Surin. She didn't worry about condoms.
After a few months, she had 4999 male friends on Facebook, many of them visitors or residents of Pattaya.
She worked Soi 6, a very busy girl. Until she got pregnant.
PolyOrchid
12-02-21, 03:27
You should have been covering from the git go. You should maybe do what you want and let everyone else do what they want too!
French Insider
12-02-21, 04:09
I arrived yesterday with my wife and we are a little intimidated to approach beautiful girls we saw last night around Tree town.
Do you know if there is some sideline girls websites for Pattaya like those we can found for Bangkok?
Our plan is to find a girl for a threesome.
Some years ago, I was the first customer for a lady from Surin. She didn't worry about condoms.Those are the ones to be even more careful with. Just because they are a new a arrival doesn't mean they weren't whoring in Surin or another Issan city, where for sure no Thai guy is wrapping it up.
Explorer8939
12-02-21, 09:29
Pattaya lady.
All you have to do is Google "largest liquor owner Thailand" and "largest landlord Thailand. " And if people are smart, they will make the connection with the answer to those search terms and the connection to the incoming Chinese investors and developers. When you have monopoly, you can just sit on it, while driving out whoever you want. If you want them out, then make them go out of business. You control all the most important assets, and it's not in the structures or bars these business owners think have value. It's the land. Shit! Even the McDonald's guy figured that one out.It's an insane game played by crazy rich billionaires (old money) against wealthy (new money) millionaires. The Sirivadhanabhakdi family controls most of the alcohol and most of the real estate in Thailand. And Charoen Sirivadhanabhakdi is actually Chinese. Word is he was only given the Thai name by the monarchy, so he can do business in Thailand to make it more acceptable to the locals. So it's true that Pattaya has sold out to new Chinese investors and developers. There are broken leases everywhere by rich Westerners who had previously found success in Pattaya. One has to think, this was the plan all along to drive them out after collecting as much money as possible. But Pattaya always needed the Chinese, Koreans, Japanese etc to fully thrive, more so than the expat group.
Chimpo Chinn
12-02-21, 15:34
Some years ago, I was the first customer for a lady from Surin. She didn't worry about condoms.
After a few months, she had 4999 male friends on Facebook, many of them visitors or residents of Pattaya.
She worked Soi 6, a very busy girl. Until she got pregnant.Nana Plaza girl.
Say works 60% of the time or 220 days a year. 2 customers a day, probably closer to 3. But use 2, I'm conservative.
That's 440 real customers a year. She has been working a long time say 12 years, 5,300 customers.
Lost 2 years due to Covid. Amazing thing is her looks haven't changed neither has her demeanor.
Some girls are just like that. Very rare.
She is the Tom Brady of Bargirls.
Nana Plaza girl.
Say works 60% of the time or 220 days a year. 2 customers a day, probably closer to 3. But use 2, I'm conservative.
That's 440 real customers a year. She has been working a long time say 12 years, 5,300 customers.
Sorry, this is far from reality. Most girls are happy to have 4 or 5 customers a week.
What you say doesn't even apply to absolute stunners.
HorseTrader
12-02-21, 19:02
A personal quirk: I live in Pattaya, but get tired of seeing the same 4 walls of my condo every day. So, I go away for a few days, and when I do, I take one of my drinking ladies with me. Sometimes I stay in an upscale hotel in Pattaya, this time I went to Bangkok. It does build the relationship with the 20 or so ladies in my rotation, since they all like to travel, and most customers never take them anywhere.When I'm in Thailand I roll 2 ways. First, with an unlimited variety of P4P girls. Almost always short time. Second, I'll hook up with a good girl and spend a 4 to 15 days with her, these are girls where I might build a permanent relationship. They don't get paid, but I tend to be generous with my spending (including domestic travel). This second group are found away from the P4P scene.
What you are doing is sort of a hybrid of the two different things that I do. You are bonding with a large, but limited, set of bar girls. Definitely a different way to go.
Nana Plaza girl.
Say works 60% of the time or 220 days a year. 2 customers a day, probably closer to 3. But use 2, I'm conservative.
That's 440 real customers a year. She has been working a long time say 12 years, 5,300 customers.
Lost 2 years due to Covid. Amazing thing is her looks haven't changed neither has her demeanor.
Some girls are just like that. Very rare.
She is the Tom Brady of Bargirls.That's not true. They have off days / seasons. And going on a stretch. Not practical.
Chimpo Chinn
12-02-21, 20:09
Sorry, this is far from reality. Most girls are happy to have 4 or 5 customers a week.
What you say doesn't even apply to absolute stunners.It's true. I barfined her back in the day. Nice pleasant experience. Present day she looks just as good and just as nice.
Everyday I check her FB page, not to see what she is up to as I no understand Thai, just to look at recent photos. Food pics just not appealing, always a Watery dish included.
Her significant other is one Homely looking human.
My Favorite massage girl in Huay Kwang was a multi customer a day kind of girl, no way a Stunner but upper middle class I'd say. My surprise is she gives quite a Good massage.
Don't underestimate the earning power of these girls, guys will spend money on a decent face,7 plus with a decent body.
Top 40 percentile of girls make 80% of income. Lower 60 per centile make 20% of income is my guess.
Yous?
Sorry no links. I don't out girls even if I'll ask others to do it. That's on them.
Chimpo Chinn
12-02-21, 20:14
Sorry, this is far from reality. Most girls are happy to have 4 or 5 customers a week.
What you say doesn't even apply to absolute stunners.Most girls would be happy to have 6 customers a month.
How so. Girls have a hard time meeting what one would think are low minimums to get Full salary.
Chimpo Chinn
12-02-21, 20:21
That's not true. They have off days / seasons. And going on a stretch. Not practical.I'm not claiming she is normal human.
Tom Brady isn't a normal Human. One old Randy Moss as a receiver, his best. Imagine if he had what Joe Montana had.
60% includes a lot of time not working.
Say 9-10 pm. Definitely I see her get one customer, on occasion 2. I leave she still has 3 hours of fishing time.
In 3 hours she bags another Japanese fella. There's your 2-3-4 customers a night.
Kapisch.
Member #4753
12-03-21, 01:47
Don't underestimate the earning power of these girls, guys will spend money on a decent face,7 plus with a decent body.
Top 40 percentile of girls make 80% of income. Lower 60 per centile make 20% of income is my guess.
That is so true. Any girl that is a 7+ gets barfined very quickly. There just aren't many out there and they can snapped up very quickly. If I see a new girl that is way above average I will grab her as quickly as possible for a drink. Otherwise some sniper will do it. Some nights I will quickly go to 3 or 4 bars lloking for a hottie, there just are not that many around.
An above average looking girl can cruise along at 2 bar fines per night, work 20 days per month, make their bar drink quote (30 k) and they are earning 150,000 minimum, probably 200,000 with some tips.
If they want to push it, and some girls really do, a girl with above attractive looks can make 300 k to 400 k, although they probably cannot do this over a long time period.
Conversely, if a girl is average she is only going to get 2 or 4 customers a week and struggle to make $40,000 after expenses. For a hot girl expenses of $15,000 per month is neither here nor there, for a struggling girl it will cut a lot into their salary.
Nana Plaza girl.
Say works 60% of the time or 220 days a year. 2 customers a day, probably closer to 3. But use 2, I'm conservative.
That's 440 real customers a year. She has been working a long time say 12 years, 5,300 customers.
Lost 2 years due to Covid. Amazing thing is her looks haven't changed neither has her demeanor.
Some girls are just like that. Very rare.
She is the Tom Brady of Bargirls.By chance are you a CPA? Doing business projections?
Explorer8939
12-03-21, 13:45
Restaurants in Pattaya can now serve alcohol.
LookingLooking
12-03-21, 15:03
In so called "blue zone."
Restrictions will be similar to Bangkok.
News as of 3 Dec 2021.
Does she pay any taxes? Anything at a reported?
That is so true. Any girl that is a 7+ gets barfined very quickly. There just aren't many out there and they can snapped up very quickly. If I see a new girl that is way above average I will grab her as quickly as possible for a drink. Otherwise some sniper will do it. Some nights I will quickly go to 3 or 4 bars lloking for a hottie, there just are not that many around.
An above average looking girl can cruise along at 2 bar fines per night, work 20 days per month, make their bar drink quote (30 k) and they are earning 150,000 minimum, probably 200,000 with some tips.
If they want to push it, and some girls really do, a girl with above attractive looks can make 300 k to 400 k, although they probably cannot do this over a long time period.
Conversely, if a girl is average she is only going to get 2 or 4 customers a week and struggle to make $40,000 after expenses. For a hot girl expenses of $15,000 per month is neither here nor there, for a struggling girl it will cut a lot into their salary.
Chimpo Chinn
12-03-21, 20:18
In so called "blue zone."
Restrictions will be similar to Bangkok.
News as of 3 Dec 2021.Restaurants happy or are they.
Still no Dirty Farangs en masse.
Now Restaurants siphon money off Treetown. No new money to Split.
People aren't going to Thailand for Alcohol. Newsflash, have alcohol in Florida. What FL doesn't have is Thai Bargirls.
Explorer8939
12-03-21, 23:58
Restaurants happy or are they.
Still no Dirty Farangs en masse.
Now Restaurants siphon money off Treetown. No new money to Split.
People aren't going to Thailand for Alcohol. Newsflash, have alcohol in Florida. What FL doesn't have is Thai Bargirls.Many restaurants serving alcohol have Thai Bargirls, available for barfine.
Explorer8939
12-04-21, 01:19
Fun in the bathtub.
Explorer8939
12-04-21, 07:15
When I'm in Thailand I roll 2 ways. First, with an unlimited variety of P4P girls. Almost always short time. Second, I'll hook up with a good girl and spend a 4 to 15 days with her, these are girls where I might build a permanent relationship. They don't get paid, but I tend to be generous with my spending (including domestic travel). This second group are found away from the P4P scene.
What you are doing is sort of a hybrid of the two different things that I do. You are bonding with a large, but limited, set of bar girls. Definitely a different way to go.I can't afford to have a "girlfriend ", only explicit pay-for-play for me.
But, yes, I have a sort of harem, a group of ladies who straggle over from their bar when it closes and they have no customers. I expect all that to go away on January 16, when all bars open. After that, maybe I will only have cashiers and Mamasans come over after work. Oh, and the occasional civvie who wants to make some cash on the side.
I am back from Bangkok, with 3 days of bargirls coming over, followed by a trip to Phuket.
Later this month, I have rented a pool villa for 3 days, and will be inviting most of the gang over, 2 or 3 at a time.
Restaurants in Pattaya can now serve alcohol.Hi Explorer8939,
I read the news about the lifting of the alcohol ban. It said that sha+ certified establishments can now serve alcohol. What effect do you think this will have on the many bars? On Bangla road in Patong all bars went open when the ban was lifted. I'm currently in Pattaya, arrived two days ago. Hoping to see something similar on walking street as I have never experienced partying there.
Thanks for your insights.
B.
Explorer8939
12-05-21, 02:44
Hi Explorer8939,
I read the news about the lifting of the alcohol ban. It said that sha+ certified establishments can now serve alcohol. What effect do you think this will have on the many bars? On Bangla road in Patong all bars went open when the ban was lifted. I'm currently in Pattaya, arrived two days ago. Hoping to see something similar on walking street as I have never experienced partying there.
Thanks for your insights..Gogos will not open until next month, so Walking Street is dead. But restaurants with ladies are very busy now. If you go to Soi Buakhao, there are plenty of bars posing as restaurants.
Explorer8939
12-05-21, 02:56
Oops.
I had a lady over last night, and we drank until after midnight. I remember saying it was time for bed, and then I woke up in the morning with no memory of what happened. And I was naked.
First thought: I hope she isn't a ladyboy.
I vaguely recall her being in bed with me and I was surprised how horny she was. But it feels like a dream. I guess there's no way to know if I fucked someone last night.
I hope I had fun.
Explorer8939
12-05-21, 10:42
Last week, I had a factory lady come over with a neighbor lady who has come over many times. It didn't go over well, as both ladies were afraid to have the other lady having too much fun. So, this week, I split them up, and the factory lady came over with a different lady (unknown to her before today).
After half an hour of drinking, Factory lady had my hand lodged in her pussy, and after another hour, Factory lady was being double teamed. She seemed to be having big fun. Of course, I cannot say a word about it to her former partner, or else word will get out in Khao Talo that she's fucking a Farang, and her Thai husband might not like that.
Explorer8939
12-05-21, 13:26
I just came from Camel Toe, and the place was jammed with customers and ladies. Just like the old days.
I'll be in Thailand for my first time this week from December 9-16. Am spending 1 night in SHA+ hotel in Bk, near Nana.
Is it worth going to Pattaya right now?* If so, for how many days? Should I split my days evenly between Pattaya and Bk?
Appreciate any advice and suggestions for where to spend my week or decent hotels for working and having fun.
Thanks.
Explorer8939
12-06-21, 04:35
The factory lady who came over was very shy at first, the other lady with us wanted to get naked after a few drinks, but the factory lady said no. One hour later, both ladies were naked, although the factory lady kept a towel around her waist. But she hiked up the towel to expose her pussy, so I could rub it.
Since she was sitting on a sofa, I got down on my knees to lick her pussy, which she seemed to like. I was kind of busy, so I wasn't paying much attention, but I did notice the other lady finger fucking the factory lady, and then I looked up and they were kissing. So much for being shy.
There was some screaming and then Factory lady kind of went limp, so that was that. I don't know whether it was from the pussylicking, or the finger fucking.
Among the three of us, a plan emerged to go to Bangkok for a couple of days. I don't see how Factory lady's husband will let her go, though.
Oh yeah, there was a problem with her hairy pussy. The other lady told her to shave it clean.
Oops.
I had a lady over last night, and we drank until after midnight. I remember saying it was time for bed, and then I woke up in the morning with no memory of what happened. And I was naked.
First thought: I hope she isn't a ladyboy.
I vaguely recall her being in bed with me and I was surprised how horny she was. But it feels like a dream. I guess there's no way to know if I fucked someone last night.
I hope I had fun.You sure she did not take something from you other than water?
I think Rentals are not so safe.
I just came from Camel Toe, and the place was jammed with customers and ladies. Just like the old days.Hurray! :D
Explorer8939
12-06-21, 13:29
You sure she did not take something from you other than water?
I think Rentals are not so safe.She is a Mamasan at a popular spot in Pattaya. I didn't have any cash in my place, I paid her via bank transfer the next day.
I talked to her last night, and she says I took a shower and went to bed, although I can't remember any of it. Except that I have a dream like recollection of playing with her in bed and wondering why she was so horny. But, she says nothing happened. She's coming over again, and will I try to stay conscious to see what she does.
Before then, I am going to Phuket with a retired bargirl (the twin sister of my ex, who is with me tonight) for a few days. And the Mamasan before the current one now works in Phuket and is coming to drink with us on the second day.
So, my dance card is pretty full for the rest of the year.
General observation: Pattaya is suddenly crowded, a little bit like pre-Covid days.
Chimpo Chinn
12-06-21, 14:02
Anyone ever see a Hot Attractive Factory Lady. It's like a Bigfoot sighting.
Explorer8939
12-07-21, 00:06
Anyone ever see a Hot Attractive Factory Lady. It's like a Bigfoot sighting.I'm not saying my factory lady friend is hot. She has a cute face, but she is chunky. The big attraction is she's not a bargirl, and I just endured dozens of bargirls over the last few months, it's nice to have someone over who doesn't know all the tricks.
However, you should remember that many bargirls started out as factory ladies.
Explorer8939
12-07-21, 01:31
As a resident of Pattaya, sometimes I get sick of the place, so I take a vacation from my vacation. When I go to another place, like today, when I go to Phuket, I generally will take a lady with me from Pattaya.
But, I don't just hook up with a lady and ask her to travel with me. First off, I have to have had to barfine her a few times first. Then, I might do a short trip to Bangkok to make sure she can get away from Pattaya, IE no boyfriend, or at least a boyfriend who lets her travel.
My new factory lady says she can go to Bangkok this weekend, so I have booked a hotel near Soi Nana. She has a boyfriend, so there is a high probability of last minute cancelation; if so, I am prepared to go alone, or invite another lady.
If the lady does okay in Bangkok, then I can take her to Chiang Mai or Phuket. If that works out, then the next step would be a short trip to Malaysia or Singapore or Hong Kong, when they are open.
In this case, the Factory lady has assured me over and over that she can go. But, This is Thailand. She may not be able to leave her boyfriend, so she will have to tell me some story about her aunt in Isaan dying, or she can't get away from her day job. If she cancels at the last minute, that will be the end of us, and she knows that.
I booked the Sea Me Spring Too hotel on Soi 10 via Agoda and yesterday I heard on another board that it was shut. I emailed the hotel and contacted Agoda too. Neither of us have received a reply so it's worth checking directly if the hotel is open before you arrive.
Report is a bit late, since I was in Pattaya the end of Nov and start of Dec, but I don't have much to add what other members haven't said already.
Day 1, arrived from BKK, checked into the Hilton, which was pretty empty. Got upgraded to a top floor room with lounge access, which was nice. Cleaned up and took a nap, then went for a walk down Beach Road towards Walking Street at around 9 PM. The town basically looked deserted. Most shops, restaurants, and hotels boarded up and closed, many of them decrepit looking. I saw a handful of FLs on Beach Road, but none very doable. Walking Street was pitch black, so I turned around and went back to the Hilton. Spent some time on Tinder, TF, and WeChat, but didn't settle on anything and called it a day.
Day 2, walked around a bit more, but everything was the same as it was last night. Looks like a fair number of people shows up for the firework and music festivals, but otherwise the town is more or less abandoned. I could see a few smaller massage shops open, with the bigger joints like Sabai boarded up. I spent the rest of my time looking around online, and had a girl from WeChat come over for LT. The pictures were touched up but accurate besides the darker skin, which I prefer anyways. She was shy but warmed up after some chatting and a movie, and took directions well. She ended up staying the night and took initiative in the morning. She wanted 3. 5 k but negotiated to 2. 5 k.
Day 3, went to Koh Lan, which was great with the lack of tourists. Felt like I had the whole beach to myself. In the evening had a Tinder date set up with a girl who works in the mall under Hilton. She was even more shy than the girl from the night before, but had a great body and was submissive. No price was discussed but I left her 3 k in her purse the morning after, which she was happy about.
Day 4, went back to Koh Lan, and set up two TF girls for the evening. First girl was tiny, I had to check her ID to make sure she was actually 20. The session was nothing to write home about, damage 1. 5 k for ST. The next girl was an experienced gogo girl, with a good body and massive bolt ONS. She was very proactive, and got horny enough that we went bare for the second round with her begging for CIP. Slept like shit since she woke me multiple times for more fucking. We agreed on 3 k, gave her 3. 5 k.
Overall, Pattaya was kind of a bust. It looks like the only action to be had besides going out to the beer gardens far away from Beach Road is online. I did see a fair bit of maintenance and construction going on on Beach Road, so maybe they are planning some sort of reopening soon, but I wouldn't bet on it given the current situation.
Report is a bit late, since I was in Pattaya the end of Nov and start of Dec, but I don't have much to add what other members haven't said already.
Day 1, arrived from BKK, checked into the Hilton, which was pretty empty. Got upgraded to a top floor room with lounge access, which was nice. Cleaned up and took a nap, then went for a walk down Beach Road towards Walking Street at around 9 PM. The town basically looked deserted. Most shops, restaurants, and hotels boarded up and closed, many of them decrepit looking. I saw a handful of FLs on Beach Road, but none very doable. Walking Street was pitch black, so I turned around and went back to the Hilton. Spent some time on Tinder, TF, and WeChat, but didn't settle on anything and called it a day.
Day 2, walked around a bit more, but everything was the same as it was last night. Looks like a fair number of people shows up for the firework and music festivals, but otherwise the town is more or less abandoned. I could see a few smaller massage shops open, with the bigger joints like Sabai boarded up. I spent the rest of my time looking around online, and had a girl from WeChat come over for LT. The pictures were touched up but accurate besides the darker skin, which I prefer anyways. She was shy but warmed up after some chatting and a movie, and took directions well. She ended up staying the night and took initiative in the morning. She wanted 3. 5 k but negotiated to 2. 5 k..LOL. You missed the reopening by a few days. Had a couple of brilliant days since the reopening. Camel Toe, Heaven etc. Ibar supposedly opening this weekend because of the restaurant. The weather is great and there are women everywhere! Loving it.
Day 3, went to Koh Lan, which was great with the lack of tourists. Felt like I had the whole beach to myself. Did you have to carry your passport to go to Koh Lan? Three years ago I didn't find Koh Lan very good, I took a motor taxi to the other side where there's a good beach but the air was thick with fumes from outboard motors and the vendors of trinkets on the beach were foul-mouthed.
.... She was very proactive, and got horny enough that we went bare for the second round with her begging for CIP. ....Be careful, she may want a little Aster14.
Be careful, she may want a little Aster14.Hahahah, yea they can try to get you into the trap of a kid from you. But 50% of the time it is not a trap but a reality. I met a girl in Ukraine who was trying to earn from prostitution as her client made her pregnant and does not want to believe the kid is his. This is why, always use a condom even if you are in a deep relationship. Your mind can be relaxed that the kid is not yours then.
Kinnaree reopened Tuesday. I was told it was packed, with 30 min wait time for available ST rooms. Cameltoe has also been crowded. I've also been told that Heaven got raided, for whatever reasons, but is open. However, no ST rooms. It was also posted in a local chat that the Heaven girls were only interested in getting LD's. On another note, there are clandestine bars open, (think speakeasies from the US Prohibition Day.) They have to know you to get in. And Tree Town is ridiculously crowded every night.
New to this site and am about to depart for Thailand, Pattaya in particular. As per recommendations I have joined T. F and have been looking at some profiles, have come across this one and was wondering if anyone on here has had the pleasure.
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12-09-21, 00:22
Did you have to carry your passport to go to Koh Lan? Three years ago I didn't find Koh Lan very good, I took a motor taxi to the other side where there's a good beach but the air was thick with fumes from outboard motors and the vendors of trinkets on the beach were foul-mouthed.Last time I went to Koh Lan they asked for passport at ferry terminal. I had a photo of it on my phone which they accepted. This was maybe 3 months ago.
I never went to Koh Lan pre covid but can imagine it was overcrowed and probably not great. At the moment there are not many crowds around and it is really nice. People are starting to come back into Thailand now, but capacity is still running at 10% normal volumes. Would imagine it is well worth visiting at the moment.
New to this site and am about to depart for Thailand, Pattaya in particular. As per recommendations I have joined T. F and have been looking at some profiles, have come across this one and was wondering if anyone on here has had the pleasure.Why don't you post the nick of this girl rather than a random photo out of thousands off TF?
Be careful, she may want a little Aster14.That would be Aster15.
Why don't you post the nick of this girl rather than a random photo out of thousands off TF?As I mentioned I am new to all this so don't bite my head off, her username is Nana2514123.
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