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New to this site and am about to depart for Thailand, Pattaya in particular. As per recommendations I have joined T. F and have been looking at some profiles, have come across this one and was wondering if anyone on here has had the pleasure.She looks about 40, chubby, saggy.
Why are you interested? Have she promised you a bareback fivesome or something?
LOL. You missed the reopening by a few days. Had a couple of brilliant days since the reopening. Camel Toe, Heaven etc. Ibar supposedly opening this weekend because of the restaurant. The weather is great and there are women everywhere! Loving it.
Fuck sakes just my kind of luck.
Be careful, she may want a little Aster14.
Hahahah, yea they can try to get you into the trap of a kid from you. But 50% of the time it is not a trap but a reality. I met a girl in Ukraine who was trying to earn from prostitution as her client made her pregnant and does not want to believe the kid is his. This is why, always use a condom even if you are in a deep relationship. Your mind can be relaxed that the kid is not yours then.Yep definitely not a smart decision but hard to make good choices with the little head, need to work on that for sure.
Did you have to carry your passport to go to Koh Lan? Three years ago I didn't find Koh Lan very good, I took a motor taxi to the other side where there's a good beach but the air was thick with fumes from outboard motors and the vendors of trinkets on the beach were foul-mouthed.I did take my passport with me but no one ever asked to see it, but I went with the speed boats every day. I believe you need the passport or some other identification to get tickets for the ferry which is slower but cheaper. As for the beaches, I went to Tien beach which was the furthest beach on the far side of the island. No boats, no fumes, maybe a handful of tourists at most, and only one bored tout who ignored me after I said no to the trinkets offered. I can definitely see the beaches being a tourist trap during high season but when I went I spent basically the entire day on a beach chair in peace browsing TF and enjoying the sun and peace.
Chimpo Chinn
12-09-21, 20:35
She looks about 40, chubby, saggy.
Why are you interested? Have she promised you a bareback fivesome or something?Par for the course in Pattaya now.
She looks about 40, chubby, saggy.
Why are you interested?40 and saggy a favorite for the older Pattaya expat crowd.
Explorer8939
12-11-21, 02:52
There is a strange High Season now in Pattaya. Bars that are open are very busy. I am told that some bars in LK Metro will open today. Everyone is scrambling to hire women. My harem doesn't love me anymore, they are all with customers.
I am renting a pool villa in a couple of weeks, but may not be able to find any ladies to come visit me.
Assuming that Omicron won't be a problem for the vaccinated, it looks like Pattaya is on the path to recovery.
ThaiGoodTimes
12-11-21, 10:59
There is a strange High Season now in Pattaya. Bars that are open are very busy. I am told that some bars in LK Metro will open today. Everyone is scrambling to hire women. My harem doesn't love me anymore, they are all with customers.
I am renting a pool villa in a couple of weeks, but may not be able to find any ladies to come visit me.
Assuming that Omicron won't be a problem for the vaccinated, it looks like Pattaya is on the path to recovery.I'm sure you'll find a way.
Maybe have increase the incentive.
It was great to catch up with you on Phuket, and meet your ex's twin as your traveling companion.
So I can attest that you are real.
Arn Poddict
12-11-21, 15:19
There is a strange High Season now in Pattaya. Bars that are open are very busy. I am told that some bars in LK Metro will open today. Everyone is scrambling to hire women. My harem doesn't love me anymore, they are all with customers.
I am renting a pool villa in a couple of weeks, but may not be able to find any ladies to come visit me.
Assuming that Omicron won't be a problem for the vaccinated, it looks like Pattaya is on the path to recovery.You visited Phuket recently. How would you compare the current nightlife / bar situation between Pattaya and Phuket. Which one is more lively? Any difference in the quality and quantity of the available working girls in the bars? I know that Phuket is more expensive than Pattaya with higher barfines and also less agogo bars. I was a regular visitor to Pattaya pre Covid for 10 years. In Phuket I have only been twice since many years. I am flying to Bangkok in January and still battling between Phuket and Pattaya for the last week of my Thailand trip. If anyone has been to both of these places recently feel free to share your thoughts.
Explorer8939
12-12-21, 02:27
You visited Phuket recently. How would you compare the current nightlife / bar situation between Pattaya and Phuket. Which one is more lively? Any difference in the quality and quantity of the available working girls in the bars? I know that Phuket is more expensive than Pattaya with higher barfines and also less agogo bars. I was a regular visitor to Pattaya pre Covid for 10 years. In Phuket I have only been twice since many years. I am flying to Bangkok in January and still battling between Phuket and Pattaya for the last week of my Thailand trip. If anyone has been to both of these places recently feel free to share your thoughts.Everything will change in Pattaya on January 16, when the bars open. But today, Phuket is better for a short visit.
Explorer8939
12-12-21, 02:39
I'm sure you'll find a way.
Maybe have increase the incentive.
It was great to catch up with you on Phuket, and meet your ex's twin as your traveling companion.
So I can attest that you are real.Whew! I was worried that I wasn't real!
I am in Bangkok today, with my ex's sister's neighbor, and a mutual friend of theirs, for a weekend threesome. I am staying at the Marriott near Soi Nana, although I don't know if Thai ladies really appreciate staying in an upscale hotel, I may have pissed money down the drain.
The lady I went to Phuket with has a Thai boyfriend, and they are having an extended fight. I asked the two ladies night if it was possible that the boyfriend is unhappy that I went with his girlfriend to Phuket, and they were puzzled by my question. For them, a Thai man would never be concerned that his girlfriend was fucking a Farang, as long as there was money.
It seems to me that there is an acute and severe shortage of attractive girls in Pattaya now, while on the other hand more and more guys are arriving every day. The very few bars that have opened as restaurants are having a sausage fest every night. It seems owners and the agencies can't get their shit together and get the girls back. Soi 6, LK Metro and WS are still black holes, altough the back of iBar is now open as "New York restaurant" with gogo prices for drinks. Was there Thursday night, maybe a third full without attractive girl options. Treetown is still the place to go, with the crowded Area39 being the top spot in town. Here you see the occasional 7-9 girl but it is an absolute seller's market and you hardly have a chance without a couple of top shelf bottles on your table. That is if you have one. Then, following a night of drinking and a sizeable check bin, you might score a half wasted working girl. Not my thing. Even here man to girl ratio is bad. Lot's of guys from Bangkok around for the long weekends and festivals. Thaifriendly is getting a seller's market too, at least in the 7+ category, it seems the few better girls rather spend their time with their friends in Treetown partying and hunting for younger guys. Many popular TF girls moved down to Phuket. Also I am quoted on TF more often 2000 for ST now. Better chances on TF daytime but again, not my thing. All in all the big Pattaya reopening has not happened at all, don't let the videos of the crowds fool you, and until the girls return in large numbers, Pattaya is a sad shadow of its former self. I am patient, as I am here until April, but now I do have the occasional boring night, as I checked all the (few) options and they are not too appealing to me. At least the weather is good.
Explorer8939
12-12-21, 07:39
It seems to me that there is an acute and severe shortage of attractive girls in Pattaya now, while on the other hand more and more guys are arriving every day. The very few bars that have opened as restaurants are having a sausage fest every night. It seems owners and the agencies can't get their shit together and get the girls back. Soi 6, LK Metro and WS are still black holes, altough the back of iBar is now open as "New York restaurant" with gogo prices for drinks. Was there Thursday night, maybe a third full without attractive girl options. Treetown is still the place to go, with the crowded Area39 being the top spot in town. Here you see the occasional 7-9 girl but it is an absolute seller's market and you hardly have a chance without a couple of top shelf bottles on your table. That is if you have one. Then, following a night of drinking and a sizeable check bin, you might score a half wasted working girl. Not my thing. Even here man to girl ratio is bad. Lot's of guys from Bangkok around for the long weekends and festivals. Thaifriendly is getting a seller's market too, at least in the 7+ category, it seems the few better girls rather spend their time with their friends in Treetown partying and hunting for younger guys. Many popular TF girls moved down to Phuket. Also I am quoted on TF more often 2000 for ST now. Better chances on TF daytime but again, not my thing. All in all the big Pattaya reopening has not happened at all, don't let the videos of the crowds fool you, and until the girls return in large numbers, Pattaya is a sad shadow of its former self. I am patient, as I am here until April, but now I do have the occasional boring night, as I checked all the (few) options and they are not too appealing to me. At least the weather is good.Yep, in the nearest term, Phuket is a better option, although there are some hot ladies at Camel Toe.
The laws of supply and demand are inexorable, though, and the ladies will come to Pattaya soon. In the meantime, I am not so much a hansum man.
I'm no longer in Pattaya. Have benefitted a lot from posts on this website during my stay in Thailand so I'll share a nice girl I found.
Only have her twitter, Gunyaluck20. It took me a while to get her to respond to my messages there. She is 20, beautiful and knows how to have fun. Has not been there too long either. She was a bit difficult with communication in the beginning, but in the end I was happy I was patient because she was a real and good person.
Banana Boi
12-12-21, 08:09
Thanks for the review. Hope things pick up for you.
the back of iBar is now open as "New York restaurant" with gogo prices for drinks. Was there Thursday night, maybe a third full without attractive girl options. New York Restaurant is actually decent food at a reasonable price. Nice getting a table overlooking the water. Took many gogo girls there. I always used New York Restaurant to walk in to rear of iBar. Pre-COVID usually not even a security guard there. Are you saying that iBar has now taken over New York Restaurant or has New York Restaurant "expanded" into the old iBar?
I don't know if Thai ladies really appreciate staying in an upscale hotel, I may have pissed money down the drain.
All they care about is the money you put in their pockets.
As I mentioned I am new to all this so don't bite my head off, her username is Nana2514123.
She looks about 40, chubby, saggy.She's 49 according to her profile. But many of these older ladies lie about their age, so she could be in her early fifties.
But she actually doesn't look that bad in her pictures, for a MILF anyway. One of her pictures shows that she is (or was) working at a massage parlor. I've had good experiences with massage ladies, although they were usually much younger than this one. They are often very skilled, and not just in massage.
That would be Aster15.And those are only the 15 that he is aware of.
Thanks for the review. Hope things pick up for you.
New York Restaurant is actually decent food at a reasonable price. Nice getting a table overlooking the water. Took many gogo girls there. I always used New York Restaurant to walk in to rear of iBar. Pre-COVID usually not even a security guard there. Are you saying that iBar has now taken over New York Restaurant or has New York Restaurant "expanded" into the old iBar? It is hard to say. You enter through the New York entrance from a pitch dark and deserted WS, then walk all the way to the back and over to the ibar terrace over the water. The ibar entrance is closed, so is the long wide corridor leading to the terrace, there is a partition just behind the pool tables. Everything is branded New York Restaurant but it is the same old ibar setting, you can even ask for your old bottle from before the lockdown and use your insomnia member card. I heard it really picked up over the long weekend now, so I will soon check it out again.
Arn Poddict
12-12-21, 12:48
Everything will change in Pattaya on January 16, when the bars open. But today, Phuket is better for a short visit.I will flip a coin.
It seems to me that there is an acute and severe shortage of attractive girls in Pattaya now, while on the other hand more and more guys are arriving every day. The very few bars that have opened as restaurants are having a sausage fest every night. It seems owners and the agencies can't get their shit together and get the girls back...
... don't let the videos of the crowds fool you, and until the girls return in large numbers, Pattaya is a sad shadow of its former self. I am patient, as I am here until April, but now I do have the occasional boring night, as I checked all the (few) options and they are not too appealing to me. At least the weather is good.Excellent reporting! You have me convinced to delay my foray into Thailand, and wait for better times.
Chimpo Chinn
12-12-21, 14:17
It seems to me that there is an acute and severe shortage of attractive girls in Pattaya now, while on the other hand more and more guys are arriving every day. The very few bars that have opened as restaurants are having a sausage fest every night. It seems owners and the agencies can't get their shit together and get the girls back. Soi 6, LK Metro and WS are still black holes, altough the back of iBar is now open as "New York restaurant" with gogo prices for drinks. Was there Thursday night, maybe a third full without attractive girl options. Treetown is still the place to go, with the crowded Area39 being the top spot in town. Here you see the occasional 7-9 girl but it is an absolute seller's market and you hardly have a chance without a couple of top shelf bottles on your table. That is if you have one. Then, following a night of drinking and a sizeable check bin, you might score a half wasted working girl. Not my thing. Even here man to girl ratio is bad. Lot's of guys from Bangkok around for the long weekends and festivals. Thaifriendly is getting a seller's market too, at least in the 7+ category, it seems the few better girls rather spend their time with their friends in Treetown partying and hunting for younger guys. Many popular TF girls moved down to Phuket. Also I am quoted on TF more often 2000 for ST now. Better chances on TF daytime but again, not my thing. All in all the big Pattaya reopening has not happened at all, don't let the videos of the crowds fool you, and until the girls return in large numbers, Pattaya is a sad shadow of its former self. I am patient, as I am here until April, but now I do have the occasional boring night, as I checked all the (few) options and they are not too appealing to me. At least the weather is good.This makes a lot of sense. Why would the Girls come back? The only tourists coming is the hardest core of hard core Boom Boom tourist. For the newbies- Cheapest of Charlies.
Saw a few days old Video of Walking St. Absolute Ghost Town. Tree Town look busy but its just Thais eating and drinking on Benches.
Member #4740
12-12-21, 16:04
as I am here until April.How long is your visa?
I am quite familiar with the Hotel Marriott on Soi 2 as I am member of their athletic club when I reside in Bangkok. Rooms can be quite expensive, though perhaps you got a bit of a Covid discount for your stay, but agree that I would not bother taking a Thai girl to this hotel, nevertheless two, as it would be a waste of money better applied elsewhere.
As you can see, there are plenty of other three star options scattered alongside Suk and adjoining Soi's. I can think of several that would would offer more economical options. Needless to say, the brunch and dinner are also relatively pricey, though I do like their coffee shop and bakery.
Whew! I was worried that I wasn't real!
I am in Bangkok today, with my ex's sister's neighbor, and a mutual friend of theirs, for a weekend threesome. I am staying at the Marriott near Soi Nana, although I don't know if Thai ladies really appreciate staying in an upscale hotel, I may have pissed money down the drain.
The lady I went to Phuket with has a Thai boyfriend, and they are having an extended fight. I asked the two ladies night if it was possible that the boyfriend is unhappy that I went with his girlfriend to Phuket, and they were puzzled by my question. For them, a Thai man would never be concerned that his girlfriend was fucking a Farang, as long as there was money.
Explorer8939
12-13-21, 01:39
This makes a lot of sense. Why would the Girls come back? The only tourists coming is the hardest core of hard core Boom Boom tourist. For the newbies- Cheapest of Charlies.
Saw a few days old Video of Walking St. Absolute Ghost Town. Tree Town look busy but its just Thais eating and drinking on Benches.Because the venues that are serving alcohol have a lot of customers. TreeTown is jammed with Farangs. There are maybe 1,000 tourists arriving every day, so the ladies are busy. Camel Toe has so many customers, they have to hire new ladies every day.
Explorer8939
12-13-21, 01:50
I am quite familiar with the Hotel Marriott on Soi 2 as I am member of their athletic club when I reside in Bangkok. Rooms can be quite expensive, though perhaps you got a bit of a Covid discount for your stay, but agree that I would not bother taking a Thai girl to this hotel, nevertheless two, as it would be a waste of money better applied elsewhere.
As you can see, there are plenty of other three star options scattered alongside Suk and adjoining Soi's. I can think of several that would would offer more economical options. Needless to say, the brunch and dinner are also relatively pricey, though I do like their coffee shop and bakery.I have stayed in plenty of hotels in this area, but I had never been in the Marriott before. The ladies seemed to like it.
I blew 500 baht on lingerie for one of the ladies, since she was just wrapping herself in a towel in the room. I think I got my money's worth out of it. Since she is not a bargirl, she had never gone with a Farang before. That also meant that all of her sex was the 3 minute quickie, so I spent some time figuring out what she liked, and got her to the point where she was shaking and couldn't take any more touching on her clit. She rolled over in bed and covered her eyes. The story was that she had never finished before and was shy. Anyway, that's the story.
How long is your visa?Have a 1 year Non O-A.
ThaiGoodTimes
12-13-21, 05:31
Excellent reporting! You have me convinced to delay my foray into Thailand, and wait for better times.Pattaya has the problem, not Thailand.
It's because the powers to be want to kill off Pattaya's much to high profile seedy image.
Phuket is buzzing right now, and Bangkok is starting to simmer and will get on the boil very quickly.
That is where the attractive girls now have gone.
If you wait, you will get the new Thailand, whatever that will be.
Right now it is alive, with great girls around.
If you're a value punter, and not a cheap Charlie, you will do OK.
ThaiGoodTimes
12-13-21, 05:36
This makes a lot of sense. Why would the Girls come back? The only tourists coming is the hardest core of hard core Boom Boom tourist. For the newbies- Cheapest of Charlies.
Saw a few days old Video of Walking St. Absolute Ghost Town. Tree Town look busy but its just Thais eating and drinking on Benches.Correct for Pattaya, only the Cheap Charlie's are going there at the moment.
So the girls aren't rushing back in droves.
Phuket and Bangkok are better places for them right now with more quality punters / spenders there as more activities and options are open to enjoy an evening out partying. Pattaya probably will eventually get there, but honestly, the government is not encouraging it.
Any similar site like Fiwfans for Pattaya?
Also would like to add, Airbnb is not totally illegal, what it means is that if you show the visa officials about your AirBNB booking, then they might not consider it and you might get deported. Although, I have seen a guy here on this forum writing that it was not an issue for his Visa process.
Banana Boi
12-13-21, 19:28
I have seen a guy here on this forum writing that it was not an issue for his Visa process.Always remember This is Thailand. 2 different Immigration officers will do things completely opposite of the other. Sure some guys may get through Immigration with an AirBNB address but is that really the chance you want to take? At the very least book a hotel after your Test and Go for 1 or 2 nights to show you at least you booked a hotel. Most hotels are free cancellation anyways so you can always cancel your reservation after Immigration while you are in the Test and Go hotel.
Anyways, let's get back to the girls instead of this ABNB discussion. Who went to Camel Toe last night? How was the food in the restaurant?
Explorer8939
12-14-21, 01:46
Always remember This is Thailand. 2 different Immigration officers will do things completely opposite of the other. Sure some guys may get through Immigration with an AirBNB address but is that really the chance you want to take? At the very least book a hotel after your Test and Go for 1 or 2 nights to show you at least you booked a hotel. Most hotels are free cancellation anyways so you can always cancel your reservation after Immigration while you are in the Test and Go hotel.
Anyways, let's get back to the girls instead of this ABNB discussion. Who went to Camel Toe last night? How was the food in the restaurant?I haven't been going to Camel Toe much lately because of the crowds there, both customers and ladies. Maybe I will have lunch there today.
Banana Boi
12-14-21, 03:08
Guy I know did a G Club tour the other afternoon.
1. Kinnaree. Not that busy. Definitely more girls than guys. He said around 20 girls.
2. Heaven. Not that busy but Heaven has always sort of been like that. Girls there but not many guys.
3. Camel Toe. This place was very busy.
So things seem to be opening up a bit. I'll be back when the gogo bars reopen. Not a bar beer guy as I don't get the concept of sitting in the heat and girls on one side of the bar and guys on the other side of the bar with no physical contact other than holding hands.
Correct for Pattaya, only the Cheap Charlie's are going there at the moment.What facts do you base your oppinion on? Are you even in Pattaya? Such generalization is simply ridiculous and no explanation for the present shortage of girls here. The situation is a lot more complex than that.
Banana Boi
12-14-21, 04:41
It's a general stereotype that Cheap Charlie's go to Pattaya and rich guys go to BKK. Yes, there are many more low end expats and tourists in Pattaya vs BKK but from a guy who lived in Pattaya for a few years condo rental, food in restaurants, taxis, gogo girl barfines, etc are all more expensive in Pattaya than BKK. Pre-COVID, what was cheaper in Pattaya were Soi 6 girls, G Club girls, and Beach Road FL's.
So things seem to be opening up a bit. I'll be back when the gogo bars reopen. Not a bar beer guy as I don't get the concept of sitting in the heat and girls on one side of the bar and guys on the other side of the bar with no physical contact other than holding hands.Comparing go-go's to beer bars in apples and oranges. I've had way more fun at beer bars than in throwing my money away in a go-go bar. While Bacarra is one of my favorites; dealing with elbow to elbow seating with chain smokers on either side; I'll take a beer bar any day. That doesn't even factor in the high cost of beers, lady drinks, bar fines and ST / LT charges in the go-gos. Beer bars will be the first to safely reopen; go-go's will be the last, if they reopen at all. Final point; I've had more intimacy with a girl in a beer bar that in any go-go bar. As soon as I see the beer bars reopen, I'm back in a flash!
I like the casual getting to know a girl in a beer bar. Play some games and a little casual groping. You can tell if she going to be a fun affectionate lay. Money matters to me too. You can spend 1000 baht in a gogo bar in ten minutes if you don't pay attention. I liked the beer bars in nakula in pattaya and the out of the way beer bars in Phuket. I liked seeing the same girl over weeks. I miss Thailand.
Comparing go-go's to beer bars in apples and oranges. I've had way more fun at beer bars than in throwing my money away in a go-go bar. While Bacarra is one of my favorites; dealing with elbow to elbow seating with chain smokers on either side; I'll take a beer bar any day. That doesn't even factor in the high cost of beers, lady drinks, bar fines and ST / LT charges in the go-gos. Beer bars will be the first to safely reopen; go-go's will be the last, if they reopen at all. Final point; I've had more intimacy with a girl in a beer bar that in any go-go bar. As soon as I see the beer bars reopen, I'm back in a flash!
ThaiGoodTimes
12-15-21, 07:30
What facts do you base your oppinion on? Are you even in Pattaya? Such generalization is simply ridiculous and no explanation for the present shortage of girls here. The situation is a lot more complex than that.No, I'm not in Pattaya, but I have been many many many times.
I actively choose not to be there, tho occasionally visit.
What facts do I base my opinion on?
Well how about first hand knowledge, from visits, from talking with working girls and punters that are friends and live there, and also bar owners.
Also from reading comments in many a forum by punters heading there, and bemoaning the covid era changes.
Lastly, its a generalization as a comment.
Of course not all Pattaya visitors are cheap charlies, but it has always been the case that such punters headed there in far higher numbers than anywhere else in Thailand.
And they still head there in greater numbers than they do elsewhere now that Thailand is reopening.
I look forward to your arguments and facts in rebuttal.
Explorer8939
12-15-21, 11:16
More bars opening in Pattaya tomorrow. Although tourists are pouring into Pattaya, I am seeing some spreading out of customers around town, so bars aren't jammed.
Chimpo Chinn
12-15-21, 15:13
I like the casual getting to know a girl in a beer bar. Play some games and a little casual groping. You can tell if she going to be a fun affectionate lay. Money matters to me too. You can spend 1000 baht in a gogo bar in ten minutes if you don't pay attention. I liked the beer bars in nakula in pattaya and the out of the way beer bars in Phuket. I liked seeing the same girl over weeks. I miss Thailand.Problem with Beer Bats is the girls are just so unattractive. Hence very, other than a few popular places, they are extremely Devoid of customers.
Chimpo Chinn
12-15-21, 15:15
It's a general stereotype that Cheap Charlie's go to Pattaya and rich guys go to BKK. Yes, there are many more low end expats and tourists in Pattaya vs BKK but from a guy who lived in Pattaya for a few years condo rental, food in restaurants, taxis, gogo girl barfines, etc are all more expensive in Pattaya than BKK. Pre-COVID, what was cheaper in Pattaya were Soi 6 girls, G Club girls, and Beach Road FL's.Not stereotype.
Chimpo Chinn
12-15-21, 15:17
What facts do you base your oppinion on? Are you even in Pattaya? Such generalization is simply ridiculous and no explanation for the present shortage of girls here. The situation is a lot more complex than that.How many Asian tourists you see walking the mean streets of Pattaya.
Chimpo Chinn
12-15-21, 15:22
Lodging in Pattaya. You can can 600 baht hotels in the Core of Pattaya. Safe and OK places.
Try getting similar quality in Urban core of Bangkok.
I like the casual getting to know a girl in a beer bar. Play some games and a little casual groping. You can tell if she going to be a fun affectionate lay. Money matters to me too. You can spend 1000 baht in a gogo bar in ten minutes if you don't pay attention. I liked the beer bars in nakula in pattaya and the out of the way beer bars in Phuket. I liked seeing the same girl over weeks. I miss Thailand.My points exactly. You can really learn about how a beer bar girl is going to be by spending time to get to know her. Though there was that one night I was fingering a go-go girl while sitting at the stage-side seats at Champagne Bar in LK Metro; she didn't seem to mind and we were spending way too much money on shots. I never did bar fine her. In my 15 visits or so to Thailand, I have only bar fined one go-go girl. The downfall of beer bars is, if you bar fine one girl, it's tough to go back for another girl in the same bar. Hence the term, "Butterfly", LOL.
Explorer8939
12-16-21, 02:06
Big panic yesterday, a bar on Soi Buakhow was raised, and the staff taken to the monkey house. Within a few hours, Brown envelopes were shared, the ladies released, and the bar was open again.
I had a Mamasan over for drinks last night, and she shared bar horror stories, both from the lady and the customer perspective. Lots of bad customers out there. Also, some bar girls fall in love with customers, but have many customers. So they are always in love.
Last thought: if you even think about sponsoring a bar girl, make sure you look at her Facebook account. Lots of guys only interact with ladies via LINE or email. If you don't see her Facebook, you have zero idea what she is doing. I took a lady to Phuket last week, and she got calls from a sponsor. He was asking if she was going to the market, not knowing she was in Phuket. If he only looked at her Facebook, he would have known she was going with a customer. I don't sponsor any ladies, so I Don't care what they do when they aren't with me, but sponsors often do care.
...The downfall of beer bars is, if you bar fine one girl, it's tough to go back for another girl in the same bar. Hence the term, "Butterfly", LOL.I am surprised nobody has mentioned the cost. I started going to Bangkok and Pattaya in 2003, and I have taken close to 30 trips. Gogo bars used to be my favorites, as I always thought they had the best looking girls. I am one big sucker for eye candy. But I was surprised to see the price rise over the past 10 years or so. I rarely go there anymore.
My guess is that the influx of Chinese and Korean mongers probably caused the inflated pricing. I am now mostly into street girls and soapies / massage parlors.
Last thought: if you even think about sponsoring a bar girl, make sure you look at her Facebook account. Lots of guys only interact with ladies via LINE or email. If you don't see her Facebook, you have zero idea what she is doing. I took a lady to Phuket last week, and she got calls from a sponsor. He was asking if she was going to the market, not knowing she was in Phuket. If he only looked at her Facebook, he would have known she was going with a customer. I don't sponsor any ladies, so I Don't care what they do when they aren't with me, but sponsors often do care.Good advice but better yet just don't sponsor a bargirl. 99.99% of the time they lie, so us punters are never getting whatever perceived value sponsoring a bargirl gets you. Its best to pay them for time and effort then have them leave.
Chimpo Chinn
12-16-21, 04:30
Big panic yesterday, a bar on Soi Buakhow was raised, and the staff taken to the monkey house. Within a few hours, Brown envelopes were shared, the ladies released, and the bar was open again.
I had a Mamasan over for drinks last night, and she shared bar horror stories, both from the lady and the customer perspective. Lots of bad customers out there. Also, some bar girls fall in love with customers, but have many customers. So they are always in love.
Last thought: if you even think about sponsoring a bar girl, make sure you look at her Facebook account. Lots of guys only interact with ladies via LINE or email. If you don't see her Facebook, you have zero idea what she is doing. I took a lady to Phuket last week, and she got calls from a sponsor. He was asking if she was going to the market, not knowing she was in Phuket. If he only looked at her Facebook, he would have known she was going with a customer. I don't sponsor any ladies, so I Don't care what they do when they aren't with me, but sponsors often do care.One reason Koreans are favorite s. Low % of Bad customer s. And, pay well doesn't hurt their cause either.
Explorer8939
12-16-21, 04:44
Are the bars in Ban Chang open yet?
Axel Heyst
12-16-21, 04:51
Gogo bars used to be my favorites, as I always thought they had the best looking girls. I am one big sucker for eye candy. But I was surprised to see the price rise over the past 10 years or so. I rarely go there anymore.
My guess is that the influx of Chinese and Korean mongers probably caused the inflated pricing. I am now mostly into street girls and soapies / massage parlors.Yeah, I am sure increased demand and showoff loose spending habits had something to do with the 1500 bt increase in Go Go girl's ST ask over the last 10 years. I still liked (pre Covid) a handful of the better Go Go's because they each always had a couple of good looking girls and I knew how to choose the right. Thus I never let the Go Go pricing prevent me from having a good time even though I knew the price inflation was outrageous.
There were some Olies that had what I like and they were / are great, but I go the oily route for afternoon diversions only. Evenings I prefer to set aside for Go Go's, Bars, and Clubs. Sadly the vast majority of SW's are not good looking enough for my tastes, but that does not stop me from looking and occasionally I find a gem.
Soapies have been in a slow decline for the last 10 or 12 years. Pre Covid 2019 there were only 2 soapies that I still liked and I don't know if they are going to survive or not, but I will tell you one thing, assuming you like eye candy as much as I like eye candy; the Soapies were not cheap. Sideline soapie girls began at 5,000 bt and prices could go all the way to 10,000 bt and higher. The most expensive sideline girls were usually not the best looking, thank Buddha, but I could easily spend 5 or 6 thousand bt on a sideline girl in one of my remaining favorite Soapies if the girl caught my eye. Service was usually very good to outstanding.
Ah, the good old days. I have a lot of memories.
Explorer8939
12-16-21, 10:31
I get ladies who drink with me telling stories about customers, and the most common are customers who don't fuck. I suspect that few guys don't close the deal with their barfines. On rare occasions, I will have a platonic barfine, but I tell them up front.
I don't remember a lady ever refusing to fuck on a bar fine. I have had ladies decline to go, but once I pay the bar for their exit, they are going to get fucked. Have I been so drunk that I couldn't get it up? I don't remember, but I am pretty sure If I pay the barfine, I get my money's worth. It's a different story if they come over outside of the bar environment, then sometimes I avoid sex for various reasons. I had a lady on top of me a couple of months ago, wanting to get creampied, but I cockblocked her, as I had a bad feeling about her. She's pregnant now.
Now for my stupid story of the week. I had a lady come over to my place after work, she was new, but had talked to many ladies in her bar. So, she named them, and told me what I did with them, mostly licking pussies. I thought she was kind of put off by a guy who licked so many pussies, she didn't want to join that club.
She came over again last night, and I realized that she wasn't put off, she came over to get her pussy licked. Oops.
Member #4753
12-16-21, 11:19
No, I'm not in Pattaya, but I have been many many many times.
I actively choose not to be there, tho occasionally visit.
What facts do I base my opinion on?
Well how about first hand knowledge, from visits, from talking with working girls and punters that are friends and live there, and also bar owners.
Also from reading comments in many a forum by punters heading there, and bemoaning the covid era changes.
Lastly, its a generalization as a comment.
Of course not all Pattaya visitors are cheap charlies, but it has always been the case that such punters headed there in far higher numbers than anywhere else in Thailand.
And they still head there in greater numbers than they do elsewhere now that Thailand is reopening.
I look forward to your arguments and facts in rebuttal.You could also add thay Pattaya is a much more 1 dimensional city than Phuket and BKK. The main activity in Pattaya is mongering, and the majority of guys are just scraping buy. Sure there are some guys with cash. Lots of cash, but the majority are guys hanging up on Soi Buakhao who probably cannot afford the gogos in Walking St.
There are the other many things to do in Bangkok and Phuket. So they tend to draw a much greater diversity of people than the typical Pattaya sterotype that will sit in a beer bar on Buakhao all day.
Explorer8939
12-16-21, 12:08
You could also add thay Pattaya is a much more 1 dimensional city than Phuket and BKK. The main activity in Pattaya is mongering, and the majority of guys are just scraping buy. Sure there are some guys with cash. Lots of cash, but the majority are guys hanging up on Soi Buakhao who probably cannot afford the gogos in Walking St.
There are the other many things to do in Bangkok and Phuket. So they tend to draw a much greater diversity of people than the typical Pattaya sterotype that will sit in a beer bar on Buakhao all day.Yes, if you want a general holiday, Pattaya is not so great.
If you want ladies, Pattaya is pretty good right now.
How is Pattaya overall going now? I read online that there was a meeting to get the nightlife venues open before new years.
Also are the markets open? If you are lucky you can literally pick up some of the cute girls who man some of the stalls. They always talk to you if you are close to their stall anyways looking for a deal and once they talk to you, you work your magic.
Dec 16th was suppose to be the day All bars opened, but the Chonburi governor ordered yesterday, the 16th: "Bars, pubs, karaokes, nightclubs, entertainment venues, soapies, essentially the entire nighttime economy is still legally and officially closed. " Supposedly, the Chonburi police went around yesterday an told bars to remain closed. However, walking around last night, the bars that had opened the night before were open. Tree Town and the Buahkao area was hopping!
Also supposedly, there is an unofficial agreement with bars / entertainment industry and the city (and the maybe the province,) to allow the bars to open, as long as they look like restaurants. The Governors order may be a face saving gesture to the CCSA. The next few days may be interesting as the Bangkok and Chonburi police can come to Pattaya and raid places.
The next Date that has been mentioned for nationwide bar opening is Jan 16th, IIRC. These dates that are mentioned by government officials, even Prayut, are not set in stone.
https://thepattayanews.com/2021/12/16/chonburi-governor-releases-new-provincial-orders-around-covid-19-restrictions-before-the-new-year-festival/
Are the bars in Ban Chang open yet?They've been open for some time now. I went yesterday. I've been going off and on for over a month. More bars have opened this week, and there are more ladies. But the quality of the ladies is lacking. Falang bar has some younger talent, but they're more interested in getting LD's and don't allow much hands on. Another bar is full of Old out of shape ladies. (They're not MILF's. !
I would say there's a handful of decent looking ladies in the bars there. I keep returning, hopeful, that each trip gets better. Also all the bars look like they're closed. (Shutters down.) Just knock / ring the door bell. Sometimes the ladies are sitting outside.
BlueMoon22
12-17-21, 04:20
Has anyone here got a girl for like a week or even a 3-4 days? Short term GF so to say? How did it go? How much can you expect to pay for a pretty decent looking chicks time? Thailand is a bucket list item of mine and touring with a chick. Haha.
Pattaya had the highest crowd of girls and customers yesterday. Reported by my Indian friends on youtube. Almost all bars are working with some clubs like Hooters working too, as seen in their youtube videos. Not many freelancers on the beach road but you can find them at other popular spots and bars in Pattaya.
The airline "Thai smile" is going to fly since 2nd January with only 3 flights per week, while from 15th January it will fly daily.
Bangkok also has the Nana plaza operating with girls and customers till 11 in night now. Many bars working and many clubs working too. Mongers can have fun for sure.
If you want a completely bustling city right now itself, then take 1 more flight from Bangkok to Phuket and you will see 50 girls standing outside popular bars.
They've been open for some time now. I went yesterday. I've been going off and on for over a month. More bars have opened this week, and there are more ladies. But the quality of the ladies is lacking. Falang bar has some younger talent, but they're more interested in getting LD's and don't allow much hands on. Another bar is full of Old out of shape ladies. (They're not MILF's. !
I would say there's a handful of decent looking ladies in the bars there. I keep returning, hopeful, that each trip gets better. Also all the bars look like they're closed. (Shutters down.) Just knock / ring the door bell. Sometimes the ladies are sitting outside.Ban Chang is not in a zone where they allow even restaurants to sell alcohol. There have been repeated reports of bars being forced to close.
Explorer8939
12-17-21, 10:51
Pattaya had the highest crowd of girls and customers yesterday. Reported by my Indian friends on youtube. Almost all bars are working with some clubs like Hooters working too, as seen in their youtube videos. Not many freelancers on the beach road but you can find them at other popular spots and bars in Pattaya.
The airline "Thai smile" is going to fly since 2nd January with only 3 flights per week, while from 15th January it will fly daily.
Bangkok also has the Nana plaza operating with girls and customers till 11 in night now. Many bars working and many clubs working too. Mongers can have fun for sure.
If you want a completely bustling city right now itself, then take 1 more flight from Bangkok to Phuket and you will see 50 girls standing outside popular bars.Thai Smile has many flights operating now, so I don't understand your reference.
The bar situation in Pattaya is a mess now. Bars are pretending to be restaurants but are not appropriately licensed. I can see about 30 days of raids and mayhem until January 16. Meanwhile, Omicron will do its best to generate more lockdowns.
I am working on a new strategy for hooking up with ladies, but in the meantime, I am banging the twins nightly. My ex has informed her customer boyfriend that she has a family emergency and is going back to the village. Meanwhile, we are on our way to Chiang Rai for a week. That means I will not see her sister for a week. That's a bit frustrating, because her sister was just learning how to fuck.
Its gonna be years to rebuild this.
https://youtu.be/wN3z-v--3As
Explorer8939
12-17-21, 12:22
Ban Chang is not in a zone where they allow even restaurants to sell alcohol. There have been repeated reports of bars being forced to close.Not a good idea to go into a closed bar. Only a matter of time before the police raid the bar.
I get ladies who drink with me telling stories about customers, and the most common are customers who don't fuck.I suspect this is all lies from your lady friends.
I occasionally heard the same thing with a few girls in the past, and each time it was big lies. Most of the time they were bullshitting for no reason, just girls that like to talk a lot, so they told a lot of false stories.
But I still suspect some others were done purposely to lead me to something than I didn't want maybe.
Chimpo Chinn
12-17-21, 15:30
Has anyone here got a girl for like a week or even a 3-4 days? Short term GF so to say? How did it go? How much can you expect to pay for a pretty decent looking chicks time? Thailand is a bucket list item of mine and touring with a chick. Haha.There's always chick's who go on Tour. As far as decent looking it depends on your definition of decent looking.
Hot agogo girls don't want to do overnight long time. I can't possibly think they want a 5 day Gig.
Now if you pay $300 plus at day I'm sure you will find someone OK.
Skolvikesq8
12-17-21, 17:24
Hello mongers,
Hope everyone is doing well. I've been following this thread for a while now since I had a trip to Thailand come on my itinerary. I'm coming to Thailand soon in January for around 11-14 days and I'm thinking of splitting it up between Bangkok and Pattaya. This is my first time coming to Thailand and have a couple of questions and wondering if anyone could help me? First of is 6 days enough to visit Pattaya? Is it better to visit it on during the week or are weekends in Pattaya more crazy? Lastly. Any hotel recommendations please? I'm looking at the Hilton Pattaya and wondering if there are any other guest friendly hotels you guys would recommend? Hard Rock Cafe Hotel? Are all hotels in Pattaya guest friendly overall? Or do 5 star hotels have a strict no guest policy?
If mongers are down for a beer when I there let me know I'll gladly buy you a beer!
If you are from India:
ICICI Lombard insurance has covid written on first page. It is cheapest insurance. It gives 5 pages in PDF but you can take screenshot of first page only and attach the first page only in thailand pass process. There is a provision to attach 3 pdf files on last stage of application. You can attach your insurance pdf file there. Simple as that. Also, flights of Thai airways will fly from 2 Jan onwards, so book them. Thank me later.
Thai Smile has many flights operating now, so I don't understand your reference.
Oops, I forgot to mention thatthe flights will start operating from India since Jan 2.
From the rest of the world there are many flights already working.
HorseTrader
12-17-21, 23:18
Has anyone here got a girl for like a week or even a 3-4 days? Short term GF so to say? How did it go? How much can you expect to pay for a pretty decent looking chicks time? Thailand is a bucket list item of mine and touring with a chick. Haha.In 2017 I made arrangements with my all time favorite Nana Butterflies girl for 1 week for 15,000 baht. She was 28, cute, but not in the top 10% of Butterflies girls (certainly in the top 30%). This was a case where she was looking for a farang husband to provide lifetime financial security for her, her daughter, and other family members. The trip never happened because I came to my senses and backed out (I seldom even do overnights).
There are many non-P4P girls (sort of) who do frequent "vacation girlfriend" trips. My main Thailand travel buddy has done several of these and has paid 20,000 to 35,000 baht for about 26 days. Payment is given to reimburse for lost work time, not for services. These are not the 20-something agogo girls, these are mid 30's to early 40's girls. I still keep in contact with 2 of his vacation girlfriends and 1 of them has made these trips into a decent business (she posts on ThaiFriendly as vacation tour guide). My buddys holiday girlfriends went to great lengths to keep him happy.
In addition to the money given to the girls, they expect you to provide a nice travel experience. Nice hotel or resort, nice meals at nice restaurants, tours, and maybe some gifts (gold jewelry is preferred because they can exchange it for cash after you are gone).
...In addition to the money given to the girls, they expect you to provide a nice travel experience. Nice hotel or resort, nice meals at nice restaurants, tours, and maybe some gifts (gold jewelry is preferred because they can exchange it for cash after you are gone).So realistically it's more like being a temporary "sugar daddy" to a short-term tour guide / translator?
Explorer8939
12-18-21, 01:22
Oops, a lady friend of mine started work at a bar last night, but the police closed it down. Then she transferred over to a bar on Soi Made in Thailand, but that's in ruins, so no customers. So maybe she is going to have a short career. The bar situation in Pattaya remains uncertain, as the rules are unclear.
I'm with my ex in Bangkok now, she has a customer who wants to be full time with her, so to go on a trip with me, she had to lie to say her aunt is dying back in the village. Meanwhile, she is posting in her Facebook about this trip. She claims she has blocked her customer from her Facebook so he can't see her posts. Meanwhile, she plans to give him a new Facebook account with posts from her village. Normally, she would settle in with him to live full time, but he might not have enough funds to support her. And he has a Thai wife, so he can't marry her.
Another lady sent me photos of Soi 6 on Messenger, there appears to be some open bars there now.
I am renting a pool villa next week for 3 days, and have designated a lady to be in charge for each day. She will select the ladies and be in charge of the food for the ladies. I will handle the drinks and setting up the music. The boss lady will sleep with me, the other ladies in the second bedroom. That will be pretty much my last time I host multiple ladies for drinking, I expect to do something different in 2022.
Eequalsmc2
12-18-21, 03:06
So realistically it's more like being a temporary "sugar daddy" to a short-term tour guide / translator?Money is the ultimate equalizer the greater the difference between your attractiveness and her attractiveness the greater the amount of money and gifts expected. My own experience of a few girls over a period of 4 or 5 days was compensation longtime rate daily or just meals paid with a thank you token cash gift at the end.
BlueMoon22
12-18-21, 03:40
In 2017 I made arrangements with my all time favorite Nana Butterflies girl for 1 week for 15,000 baht. She was 28, cute, but not in the top 10% of Butterflies girls (certainly in the top 30%). This was a case where she was looking for a farang husband to provide lifetime financial security for her, her daughter, and other family members. The trip never happened because I came to my senses and backed out (I seldom even do overnights).
There are many non-P4P girls (sort of) who do frequent "vacation girlfriend" trips. My main Thailand travel buddy has done several of these and has paid 20,000 to 35,000 baht for about 26 days. Payment is given to reimburse for lost work time, not for services. These are not the 20-something agogo girls, these are mid 30's to early 40's girls. I still keep in contact with 2 of his vacation girlfriends and 1 of them has made these trips into a decent business (she posts on ThaiFriendly as vacation tour guide). My buddys holiday girlfriends went to great lengths to keep him happy.
In addition to the money given to the girls, they expect you to provide a nice travel experience. Nice hotel or resort, nice meals at nice restaurants, tours, and maybe some gifts (gold jewelry is preferred because they can exchange it for cash after you are gone).Thanks for the reply. It sounds like it was a wise decision to pass on that arrangement with her wanting more out of it. To me that seems like a good deal. Roughly 1000 us dollars for 26 days is top of the range? If she is pretty and really wants to make it a fun time for both especially seems like a good deal. And yes, I would want it to be at a nice resort and treat it like I do any vacation. Where is the easiest place to find the vacation girlfriends? I really miss the erotic review. Not sure if anyone here is familiar with it but it was an amazing site that the ladies would post on and there would be reports from others who had spent time with them. Sadly the government closed the site. It made it easy to find out what to expect from the girl in her attitude, what all she would do, described all of the looks on a ratings scale. Maybe another site like that exists but I don't know where. LOL.
I wonder why the gogo girls are less likely to do the vacation girlfriend trips?
I really miss the erotic review. Not sure if anyone here is familiar with it but it was an amazing site that the ladies would post on and there would be reports from others who had spent time with them. Sadly the government closed the site.It's Up and running. It wasn't closed / seized by the feds, it shut itself down. Now you can't post about prices. I'm not finding any current posts about Thailand nor any Thai escort ads there.
JustLoggedInto
12-18-21, 21:39
Hi there,
Thought I'd give a lowdown on Pattaya right now because I'm literally right there right now and I'm shipping back to Bangkok.
I literally created this account now because I feel like there's a lot of information I disagree with. Ok so here goes.
All the massage parlors, ie Honey, Saibadee, are all closed. I think people already knew this but wanted to clarify.
All gogos are all closed.
I just want to mention that my tastes are very different and I prefer the girls that are more Japanese looking. So my favorite joint has always been Baccara etc. I also liked Palace (god it's so sad it's gone), Panda, Pinup -and occasionally Sensations. Sensations kind of is a honey trap because they throw a crap ton of people there.
But yip, if you like the Baccara look. Tree Town is no good.
I scoured the f-ing place.
Treetown IMHO is just like a lesser version of Soi 6 (back when Soi 6 was good). Basically the girls there aren't my type.
There's a joke among Thais but basically the Farangs like taller, darker, wide nosed, tattooed, skinny look and the Japanese like the more Thai Penthouse girl look.
On a side note, the strange thing was that the type I like was available -- but only at Tantra. But get this, you can't barfine them. They just only want you to buy drinks but you can't take them out. But there were more my type there.
A good portion of the 7 Elevens in Walking Street were shut down. Simons is shut down.
Dude I literally have to mention this but Tree Town had like almost no pretty girls. I feel like all the pretty ones just flat-out jumped ship and decided to get the hell out of there. I was seriously disappointed. Even during the golden years of Soi 6, I'd walk down the aisle and eventually spot like 1 or 2 that were cute. But this place, Tree Town, wasn't my bag. If you're looking for more that Thai Penthouse look, it ain't in Pattaya. I'm literally dropping ship to Bangkok because at least you can see former peeps from Baccara lounging in chairs there. Honestly most of 'those' types of girls aren't going to be sitting out in the hot humid weather. They never did before and they won't now. Those are only the bar girls and the 'other type' which I never really was a fan of. Again, not saying it's no good. I'm just saying, Tree Town is basically all that type -- which I never really cared for.
Chimpo Chinn
12-18-21, 22:50
Oops, I forgot to mention thatthe flights will start operating from India since Jan 2.
From the rest of the world there are many flights already working.BA cutting Thailand off its schedule till 2022 October.
Chimpo Chinn
12-18-21, 22:53
So realistically it's more like being a temporary "sugar daddy" to a short-term tour guide / translator?In real words. You paying a Prostitute money to be with you.
Come on guys. No need to beat around the bushes.
StudBucket
12-19-21, 04:06
Hi there,
Thought I'd give a lowdown on Pattaya right now because I'm literally right there right now and I'm shipping back to Bangkok.
I literally created this account now because I feel like there's a lot of information I disagree with. Ok so here goes.
All the massage parlors, ie Honey, Saibadee, are all closed. I think people already knew this but wanted to clarify.
All gogos are all closed.
I just want to mention that my tastes are very different and I prefer the girls that are more Japanese looking. So my favorite joint has always been Baccara etc. I also liked Palace (god it's so sad it's gone), Panda, Pinup -and occasionally Sensations. Sensations kind of is a honey trap because they throw a crap ton of people there.
But yip, if you like the Baccara look. Tree Town is no good.
I scoured the f-ing place.
Treetown IMHO is just like a lesser version of Soi 6 (back when Soi 6 was good). Basically the girls there aren't my type.
There's a joke among Thais but basically the Farangs like taller, darker, wide nosed, tattooed, skinny look and the Japanese like the more Thai Penthouse girl look.
On a side note, the strange thing was that the type I like was available -- but only at Tantra. But get this, you can't barfine them. They just only want you to buy drinks but you can't take them out. But there were more my type there.
A good portion of the 7 Elevens in Walking Street were shut down. Simons is shut down.
Dude I literally have to mention this but Tree Town had like almost no pretty girls. I feel like all the pretty ones just flat-out jumped ship and decided to get the hell out of there. I was seriously disappointed. Even during the golden years of Soi 6, I'd walk down the aisle and eventually spot like 1 or 2 that were cute. But this place, Tree Town, wasn't my bag. If you're looking for more that Thai Penthouse look, it ain't in Pattaya. I'm literally dropping ship to Bangkok because at least you can see former peeps from Baccara lounging in chairs there. Honestly most of 'those' types of girls aren't going to be sitting out in the hot humid weather. They never did before and they won't now. Those are only the bar girls and the 'other type' which I never really was a fan of. Again, not saying it's no good. I'm just saying, Tree Town is basically all that type -- which I never really cared for.Good report Just Logged Into. I would have waited if I were until January as that is when the gogos and more places are supposed to open and the hot ones open. Let us know how BKK is and if that is bad, hit Phuket.
Member #4753
12-19-21, 04:29
Hi there,
Thought I'd give a lowdown on Pattaya right now because I'm literally right there right now and I'm shipping back to Bangkok.
All the massage parlors, ie Honey, Saibadee, are all closed. I think people already knew this but wanted to clarify. All gogos are all closed.
I just want to mention that my tastes are very different and I prefer the girls that are more Japanese looking. So my favorite joint has always been Baccara etc. I also liked Palace (god it's so sad it's gone), Panda, Pinup -and occasionally Sensations. Sensations kind of is a honey trap because they throw a crap ton of people there.
Treetown IMHO is just like a lesser version of Soi 6 (back when Soi 6 was good). Basically the girls there aren't my type.
There's a joke among Thais but basically the Farangs like taller, darker, wide nosed, tattooed, skinny look and the Japanese like the more Thai Penthouse girl look.
On a side note, the strange thing was that the type I like was available -- but only at Tantra. But get this, you can't barfine them. They just only want you to buy drinks but you can't take them out. But there were more my type there.
A good portion of the 7 Elevens in Walking Street were shut down. Simons is shut down.
Dude I literally have to mention this but Tree Town had like almost no pretty girls. I feel like all the pretty ones just flat-out jumped ship and decided to get the hell out of there. I was seriously disappointed. Even during the golden years of Soi 6, I'd walk down the aisle and eventually spot like 1 or 2 that were cute. But this place, Tree Town, wasn't my bag. If you're looking for more that Thai Penthouse look, it ain't in Pattaya. I'm literally dropping ship to Bangkok because at least you can see former peeps from Baccara lounging in chairs there. Honestly most of 'those' types of girls aren't going to be sitting out in the hot humid weather. They never did before and they won't now. Those are only the bar girls and the 'other type' which I never really was a fan of. Again, not saying it's no good. I'm just saying, Tree Town is basically all that type -- which I never really cared for.I live in Bangkok, but have been to Pattaya maybe a 20 times since covid started, it is just 90 minutes in the car so I usually go and see a girl I know to break the boredom. I agree with what you have said above, tons of 4's and 5's around, so if you are a quantity over quality guy you will be in hog heaven. However quality is very hard to find. They have all gone to ground.
You will see a similar picture in BKK. The girls on soi 4, 7, 8 & 11 are of the same quality. There is better quality in some of the asian orientated massage places. I have found a couple of gems there. The other way is to go through your lady contacts line lists and ask who is still working, you can get intros that way as long as the girl thinks you are not a complete dick.
The rest of the talent has gone back to Isan and living simple but probably happier lives. Or they have moved online, the InstaHo genre has come along way. The issue with the InstaHo ladies are that they get 100's of messages per week, most from guys not even in Thailand, so it is easy to get lost in all the crap and you are lucky if you get a reply or not. I have found the only way in is if you know a friend of a friend that can get their line and then if they don't have a long term boyfriend is it just a matter of coming up with a mutually agreeable rate. Very hot way above average girls that have been in the game for a while are never going to starve, they are going to suck up the last of the customers.
I prefer everything being open, then it is just a numbers game of visiting as many places as quickly as possible to grab a hottie. Trolling through online stuff is time consuming, I work here so don't have that much time and hence find it to be tedious rather than pleasurable.
Mr Enternational
12-19-21, 05:18
There's a joke among Thais but basically the Farangs like taller, darker, wide nosed, tattooed, skinny look and the Japanese like the more Thai Penthouse girl look.You mean Farang like Thai and Japanese like Chinese.
You mean Farang like Thai and Japanese like Chinese.He means that Thai people think farang prefer dark Issan girls. Which isn't true, its just that in Thailand all the hot white skin girls are taken by well off Thai men who still think white skin is best. Thus the leftover "hot" girls go for farang as its their best option. If you're a hot white skin Thai girl why would you work hard in the farang P4P industry for 2000/ night when you can dance at a Thai gentleman's club and get the same amount for just drinking no sex? And if you OK to fuck then a high end BKK soapy or private VIP entertain jobs pay more than any gogo bar work.
Japanese like Thai men, prefer white skin and Chinese features. In my experience us farang are fine for it but it tends not to be available to us, unless you're young, handsome, AND have money. For example I've seen some crypto millionaires dating these types that's about it.
HorseTrader
12-19-21, 08:05
BA cutting Thailand off its schedule till 2022 October.Are you saying that British Airways is stopping service to Thailand? My ticket next month is on British Airways and I haven't yet been notified of any change. A month ago I had tickets on another airline and my flights got cancelled a few days after I bought them. Looks like I'm going to need to buy tickets a 3rd time.
I did notice that current online schedule for British Air tickets to BKK now use Qatar for the final leg (and the prices are double what I paid about 3 weeks ago).
Banana Boi
12-19-21, 08:14
Are you saying that British Airways is stopping service to Thailand? My ticket next month is on British Airways and I haven't yet been notified of any change. A month ago I had tickets on another airline and my flights got cancelled a few days after I bought them. Looks like I'm going to need to buy tickets a 3rd time.
I did notice that current online schedule for British Air tickets to BKK now use Qatar for the final leg (and the prices are double what I paid about 3 weeks ago).Direct flights cancelled.
https://www.thephuketnews.com/british-airways-suspends-uk-flights-to-bangkok-until-oct-2022-82429.php
Explorer8939
12-19-21, 09:25
To clarify, there are plenty of massage shops in Pattaya.
But, the soapies are closed.
Direct flights cancelled.
https://www.thephuketnews.com/british-airways-suspends-uk-flights-to-bangkok-until-oct-2022-82429.phpMy April flights on BA were cancelled last week, and the email from BA stated they were not flying this route until October 2022.
Got the refund surprisingly easily and quickly but alternative flights now are quite expensive. Still hope to travel out but not sure which way yet.
JustLoggedInto
12-19-21, 12:43
You mean Farang like Thai and Japanese like Chinese.No. Thai guys actually don't look like that look. IE they don't like the taller, darker, wide nosed, tattooed, skinny look. It's considered unattractive. That's why there are so many skin-whitening products in Thailand.
Just look at the ads around. Look at the videos playing. The commercials playing. The TV shows and soap operas. That's what Thai people think is beautiful.
They don't like the Treetown look. But like I said I'm not saying they're ugly. I'm just saying it's not my type. Lot of the girls in Treetown look super trashy IMO. And it sucks because when Walking Street was open, the girls in Baccara, Pinup, Palace, Panda were more the type I liked.
But I meant what I meant. It's not Thai, it's Farang who like that look. Honestly I never seen an old white guy with that Japanese girl look. They go for the super duper wide nose, tall, skinny, tatted, dark look. And if you like that look, you'll like Tree Town. If you don't, you'll hate it.
But yeah, just know when someone is pumping the f*ck out of Treetown, they're going for 'that' look.
And no, I meant Japanese. If you ever go to a subway in Tokyo, it's dead silent. They're very much about personal space. Chinese generally more louder, don't dress as nice, very loud and have no sense of personal space. They literally will be blocking you while you're walking down a street. And it's not that they're rude intentionally, they just don't know any better because there's no sense of personal space in China because it's so crowded. Usually the Chinese roll in large packs. Japanese guys, 2 to 3 at most.
HorseTrader
12-19-21, 16:36
Direct flights cancelled.
https://www.thephuketnews.com/british-airways-suspends-uk-flights-to-bangkok-until-oct-2022-82429.phpThanks for that link. I seems that British Airways has known this for several days, but they still haven't notified me that my existing flight schedule is cancelled.
I guess it's time for me to restart work to find flights and then redo test and go hotel, other hotels, insurance, and Thailand pass. Im back at square one.
PedroMorales
12-19-21, 16:52
Thanks for that link. I seems that British Airways has known this for several days, but they still haven't notified me that my existing flight schedule is cancelled.
I guess it's time for me to restart work to find flights and then redo test and go hotel, other hotels, insurance, and Thailand pass. Im back at square one.As your post interested me.
(1).
I checked BA's website as a tram player.
It tells me there are no direct flight and that they will try to reroute me via Qatar Airways / Doha. No doubt this will be suggested to you. It has happened to me on far too many occasions recently flying around Europe, where airlines are just keeping the main arteries open and then at reduced volume. If they are not packing in the punters (ha ha), they are in deep doo doo.
And.
(1) I looked up main and most profitable lines to wonder what happened to your Dunkirk Spirit.
https://www.businessinsider.com/top-10-highest-revenue-generating-flight-routes-in-the-world-2020-2?r=US&IR=T#1-british-airways-london-lhr-new-york-jfk-10.
https://simpleflying.com/british-airways-top-routes-2021/
Though long haul is the place to be, not all long hauls are currently sustainable. BKK ISO ne of those hauls. I am just surprised BA did not work out an alternative hub and spokes eg fly everyone bound for SE Asia into Singapore and then work it from there. Airline companies are being kept afloat by massive government loans and something will have to give. There have been far too few gravity defying failures of late.
Chimpo Chinn
12-19-21, 18:19
You mean Farang like Thai and Japanese like Chinese.Muslim. Arab. African. Most Farang like dark skins. 3-5 on scale of looks is OK.
Asians like whiter higher ranking girls.
Come on man. You should know this.
Chimpo Chinn
12-19-21, 18:23
He means that Thai people think farang prefer dark Issan girls. Which isn't true, its just that in Thailand all the hot white skin girls are taken by well off Thai men who still think white skin is best. Thus the leftover "hot" girls go for farang as its their best option. If you're a hot white skin Thai girl why would you work hard in the farang P4P industry for 2000/ night when you can dance at a Thai gentleman's club and get the same amount for just drinking no sex? And if you OK to fuck then a high end BKK soapy or private VIP entertain jobs pay more than any gogo bar work.
Japanese like Thai men, prefer white skin and Chinese features. In my experience us farang are fine for it but it tends not to be available to us, unless you're young, handsome, AND have money. For example I've seen some crypto millionaires dating these types that's about it.White skin girls are available to the average Farang. Not Every time though a high percentage of the time the Farang makes a beeline to the Dark less than attractive older boney Thai girl.
You ever see a Korean in Tulips or Angel witch.
Flip side. Farangs make up less than 1 % of customers at the popular Rainbow Bars.
Mr Enternational
12-19-21, 19:36
No. Thai guys actually don't look like that look. IE they don't like the taller, darker, wide nosed, tattooed, skinny look. It's considered unattractive. That's why there are so many skin-whitening products in Thailand.
Muslim. Arab. African. Most Farang like dark skins. 3-5 on scale of looks is OK. Asians like whiter higher ranking girls.Yes. But mostly the girls that have whiter skin are ethnic Chinese, not ethnic Thai.
Japanese like Thai men, prefer white skin and Chinese features.Exactly. They like chicks of Chinese descent instead of chicks of Thai descent.
HorseTrader
12-19-21, 20:24
White skin girls are available to the average Farang. Not Every time though a high percentage of the time the Farang makes a beeline to the Dark less than attractive older boney Thai girl.I don't know about other farang, but USA farang are unpredictable as to what they like. They avoid old, fat, and ugly. Other factors go to individual taste. Tall versus short. Skinny versus some meat on bones. Tattoos versus none. Dark skin versus light skin. Long versus short hair.
I can't even define my own preferences, but I know it when I see it.
JustLoggedInto
12-19-21, 22:59
Yes. But mostly the girls that have whiter skin are ethnic Chinese, not ethnic Thai.Exactly. They like chicks of Chinese descent instead of chicks of Thai descent.Not sure I agree there. Those girls definitely are Thai.
As mentioned, the girls in the soapies and Gogo bars are Thai girls but they fashion themselves up to 'look' like that look. They do that with skin brightening products. Lots of money on makeup. Look up Dolly eyes style on Youtube to see the transformations, it's quite insane. And hitting up plastic surgery clinics to have that Kpop or JPop look to them.
Just put it this way, if they throw enough money at it, even a guy can look like those types of girls. And I'll admit there's a few times I'll see a stunner but it's a guy. The voice always is a dead giveaway. The way they say Hello rofl. It's never quite right ROFL. But hey, some peeps like LBs too. Haha.
Axel Heyst
12-19-21, 23:17
I can't even define my own preferences, but I know it when I see it.I know what I like when I see it too, however, over time (decades, 555) my photo collection of girls indicates that 3 out of 4 times I usually select cute, sexy, friendly, slender, natural looking, spinner, girl next door types. So that particularly differentiates me from guys who, for example, like / prefer large breasts especially in LOS or the PI. In Brazil I still hold the line on slender, cute natural and friendly, but tall girls are a great new treat for me. I am really getting into tall, slender. Brazilian girls.
Other factors go to individual taste. Tall versus short. Skinny versus some meat on bones. Tattoos versus none. Dark skin versus light skin. Long versus short hair.The big difference in tastes East / West internationally is that most farangs, including myself, do not seem to care about skin color. I will take them dark or light. I don't care as long as they fit my "cute, sexy, friendly, slender, natural looking, girl next door" type. Meanwhile most NE Asian dudes and Thai men do care about skin color, and they put a premium on light skin color. They also seem to go for that Asian China doll look which some Thai girls like to cater to with their selection of hair style and make up.
I say whatever turns you on is ok with me.
Explorer8939
12-20-21, 01:13
I am in the mountains near Chiang Rai for a couple of days, with my ex. She informed her steady customer that she had to go back to the village urgently, and so she is spending a week with me.
I am meditating on my next moves for 2022. Omicron is coming, and there may a lockdown in Thailand again. This time around, I don't want to have to handle 25 ladies a week, so I might just have one lady move in with me. The question is who: I have 3 ladies doing overnights with me.
My ex's sister just got a new ring from her Thai boyfriend, posted about it on Facebook, but hid that post from me. I had no idea you could block Facebook friends from seeing individual posts. Anyway, it's probably time I stop barfining her, she needs to get a real job, and not hurt her boyfriend's feelings by fucking me when she needs cash.
I have to make a decision about my ex. She works in a bar, but her Farang customer comes to barfine her every day she works, because he can't bear to see her with other customers. What she really wants is to go back with me, so she doesn't have to work. But, she can't live with me for too long, she starts to really miss heavy drinking in the bar. So, if she moves in with me again, she will lose out on a possible long term relationship with her customer.
Meanwhile, there is a Mamasan angling for a long term relationship with me, but I don't know much about her.
I expect Omicron to hold off until the bars open on January 16, but I don't know for how long. All of these ladies have former customers planning to return to Pattaya for this High Season, so it might be better for me to wait until Omicron hits before picking a lady.
In fact, my best strategy might be to just be a free man and barfine random ladies from random bars.
Decisions, decisions.
Houston Player
12-20-21, 03:19
I expect Omicron to hold off until the bars open on January 16, but I don't know for how long. All of these ladies have former customers planning to return to Pattaya for this High Season, so it might be better for me to wait until Omicron hits before picking a lady.
In fact, my best strategy might be to just be a free man and barfine random ladies from random bars.
Decisions, decisions.I was in Pattaya over the weekend and some bar owners are thinking that the January 16th opening most likely will be pushed to March. I hope they're wrong and the bars open in January.
I agree that this is definitely the best strategy. Always have a few regulars but constantly adding random ladies from wherever you find them.
Explorer8939
12-20-21, 03:51
I agree that this is definitely the best strategy. Always have a few regulars but constantly adding random ladies from wherever you find them.I am actually thinking of dropping my regulars for various reasons, and going with fresh pussies. Or pick one regular for full time duty.
Mr Enternational
12-20-21, 04:57
Not sure I agree there. Those girls definitely are Thai.Yes they are Thai. But they are Thai in the sense that their grandparents and greatgrandparents immigrated to Thailand from China. Their roots are Chinese. A person whose roots are Thai are the darker skinned people that you say foreigners like. Out of 65 million people in Thailand 10 million are those light skinned Chinese Thai that you like so much.
It is the same as when you see Black people in France or Germany. They are French or German, but their parents or grandparents immigrated there from Cameroon, Nigeria, Mali, etc.
"The Thai Chinese have been deeply ingrained into all elements of Thai society over the past 200 years. The present Thai royal family, the Chakri dynasty, was founded by King Rama I who himself was partly Chinese. His predecessor, King Taksin of the Thonburi Kingdom, was the son of a Chinese father from Chaoshan. With the successful integration of historic Chinese immigrant communities in Thailand, a significant number of Thai Chinese are the descendants of intermarriages between ethnic Chinese and native Thais. Many of these descendants have assimilated into Thai society and self-identify solely as Thai. ".
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thai_Chinese
Yes, most of this assumption is right. The Asians prefer White skinned girls for sure. Almost 75% to 90% might prefer only white skin girls. It is really tough here to find a Groom for a dark girl actually. This is why skin whitening products are having so huge market in Asia.
I (and many Asian men) actually get puzzled when a Farang is seen with a black beauty. I keep thinking what is it that this farang liked? Haha. I am against racism but this is just a discussion about what men like.
I (and many Asian men) would prefer big boobs along with the whiter skin tone. Fat girls are always attractive to me as long as they have the right proportion of boobs bigger than the tummy. Thick skin, even more yummy.
The selection of white and well endowed girls leaves me with very few options. I end up paying a lot and getting a very used up girl sometimes but that is what WORKS haha. Please let me know where to find these type of girls. I think there is the Japanese client's preferred alley or something.
LittleBigMan
12-20-21, 11:20
Yes they are Thai. But they are Thai in the sense that their grandparents and greatgrandparents immigrated to Thailand from China. Their roots are Chinese. A person whose roots are Thai are the darker skinned people that you say foreigners like. Out of 65 million people in Thailand 10 million are those light skinned Chinese Thai that you like so much.
It is the same as when you see Black people in France or Germany. They are French or German, but their parents or grandparents immigrated there from Cameroon, Nigeria, Mali, etc.
"The Thai Chinese have been deeply ingrained into all elements of Thai society over the past 200 years. The present Thai royal family, the Chakri dynasty, was founded by King Rama I who himself was partly Chinese. His predecessor, King Taksin of the Thonburi Kingdom, was the son of a Chinese father from Chaoshan. With the successful integration of historic Chinese immigrant communities in Thailand, a significant number of Thai Chinese are the descendants of intermarriages between ethnic Chinese and native Thais. Many of these descendants have assimilated into Thai society and self-identify solely as Thai. ".
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thai_ChineseAnd to fit into the Thai society once the Chinese married a Thai they merge all their names together thus the reason why many of the Thais names are so long. LOL.
I don't know about other farang, but USA farang are unpredictable as to what they like. They avoid old, fat, and ugly. Other factors go to individual taste. Tall versus short. Skinny versus some meat on bones. Tattoos versus none. Dark skin versus light skin. Long versus short hair.
I can't even define my own preferences, but I know it when I see it.Its important for mongers to continue to like a variety of types so that all girls can get a piece of the pie.
Explorer8939
12-20-21, 14:42
Its important for mongers to continue to like a variety of types so that all girls can get a piece of the pie.That's me, I like all types. Dark skin, light skin, skinny, pumpui, I am easy to please.
TourduMonde
12-20-21, 15:10
Yes, most of this assumption is right. The Asians prefer White skinned girls for sure. Almost 75% to 90% might prefer only white skin girls. It is really tough here to find a Groom for a dark girl actually. This is why skin whitening products are having so huge market in Asia.
I (and many Asian men) actually get puzzled when a Farang is seen with a black beauty. I keep thinking what is it that this farang liked? Haha. I am against racism but this is just a discussion about what men like.
Interesting discussion. It should really be called "colorism" rather than "racism" when it refers to discriminating against people within the same race based on skin tone. But yes, despite a recent push from some quarters against "racism in dating", I think most people understand it is totally a matter of personal preference if individuals aren't equally attracted to all BMIs, age groups, races, genders or skin tones.
I think one point not mentioned yet is that white men have tens of millions of very light skinned girls to choose from back home in North America or Europe or wherever (and stats say they mostly marry within race), so the ones who come to Asia looking for women (rather than e. G. Touring German FKKs) are not necessarily representative of the population as a whole.
Apart from that I tend to agree with others that in general white men, and certainly white men who regularly see non-white girls, care less about skin tone than others do. So a light skinned girl who might count as a 9 to Asians might be a 7 to Farangs and vice-versa for dark skinned girls, so the girls are going to go where they are most appreciated I. E. Earn most.
...The big difference in tastes East / West internationally is that most farangs, including myself, do not seem to care about skin color. I will take them dark or light. I don't care as long as they fit my "cute, sexy, friendly, slender, natural looking, girl next door" type. Meanwhile most NE Asian dudes and Thai men do care about skin color, and they put a premium on light skin color. They also seem to go for that Asian China doll look which some Thai girls like to cater to with their selection of hair style and make up.
I say whatever turns you on is ok with me.Yes. If by the term "farangs" in this context we're talking about predominantly Caucasian men, I don't know where this idea that farangs prefer dark skin women came from.
Have you guys asserting that notion ever been to a country with a large percentage of Caucasian men? Are most of them seen dating and marrying dark skin women rather than light skin women in their home country? Is it even as high as 30% of them choosing dark skin women to meet and date while ignoring the blue eyed blonds in their neighborhood?
What would you say is the percentage of Caucasian men who travel outside of their predominantly light skin Caucasian environments in order to find dark skin women to have sex with because they're just not into the light skin girls around? I doubt it is as high as 5%.
Of course, in Asia, parts of Latin America or any other part of the world whose culture reveres light skin and denigrates dark skin beyond all reason, light skin hookers will be the ones who charge more and deliver less while dark skin hookers will be the ones who charge less and deliver more.
And along with the dark skin in many areas of the world you will also get many of the other physical characteristics some of you gents have weirdly concluded that "farangs like. " But that is merely coincidental to the reality that it is about which girl, the light skin one or the dark skin one, works to win our attention, makes us smile, inspires a boner more by what she does for us rather than how she look just sitting or standing there.
When more light skin hookers in Thailand start working harder to do that than the dark skin hookers, we farang punters will be ready to plunk down our money. But I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for that to happen anytime soon.
Value for money on that criteria is what the majority of farangs I know are looking for when they monger in Thailand, skin color being largely irrelevant to our interests other than that we know the culture has rigged it such that light skin hookers (or girlfriends and wives) have been allowed to be lazy about what they have to do for acceptance and money while dark skin hookers have not.
Chimpo Chinn
12-20-21, 15:23
I was in Pattaya over the weekend and some bar owners are thinking that the January 16th opening most likely will be pushed to March. I hope they're wrong and the bars open in January.
I agree that this is definitely the best strategy. Always have a few regulars but constantly adding random ladies from wherever you find them.You might want to tell them Oct 2022 is more realistic. Airlines giving up landing slots is real not like noise coming from govt officials.
Then you add BA not flying into Thailand at all, you know they know stuff we don't.
When one major company announces you know others will follow.
I'm not optimistic at all.
Pattaya walking street opened yesterday with all restaurants serving food and alcohol!
I (and many Asian men) actually get puzzled when a Farang is seen with a black beauty. I keep thinking what is it that this farang liked? Haha. I am against racism but this is just a discussion about what men like.
I (and many Asian men) would prefer big boobs along with the whiter skin tone. Fat girls are always attractive to me as long as they have the right proportion of boobs bigger than the tummy.
The selection of white and well endowed girls leaves me with very few options.Men who are into gazelles with well-defined backsides have even fewer options in Asia IMO. Unless you reject done-up tits. Then your options may be as few.
The big difference in tastes East / West internationally is that most farangs, including myself, do not seem to care about skin color. I will take them dark or light. I don't care as long as they fit my "cute, sexy, friendly, slender, natural looking, girl next door" type.Indeed. Some people see me chasing Afro girls and wonder why I go after black skin. In fact I don't give a rat's ass about black skin. What I'm after is the bubble ass, NOT the black skin. And I don't give a rat's ass about a girl's face either if she has a smoking hot body.
Anutin, the nutty health minister wants to do away with the test and go due to Omicron fears. He going to propose this to the CCSA.
https://www.bangkokpost.com/thailand/general/2234887/test-go-entry-may-be-suspended-on-omicron-concerns
Of course the tourist operators are NOT happy about this:
https://www.bangkokpost.com/business/2235183/test-go-rumour-irking-operators
And this is the Latest, A revised Test and Go countries list. "the CCSA's operation centre will identify "high-risk" countries before holding a meeting on Friday to decide on the extent to which the "Test & Go" scheme may need to be revised. ":
https://www.bangkokpost.com/thailand/general/2235135/test-go-country-list-to-change
Locamotive
12-21-21, 11:07
Interesting discussion. It should really be called "colorism" rather than "racism" when it refers to discriminating against people within the same race based on skin tone. But yes, despite a recent push from some quarters against "racism in dating", I think most people understand it is totally a matter of personal preference if individuals aren't equally attracted to all BMIs, age groups, races, genders or skin tones.
I think one point not mentioned yet is that white men have tens of millions of very light skinned girls to choose from back home in North America or Europe or wherever (and stats say they mostly marry within race), so the ones who come to Asia looking for women (rather than e. G. Touring German FKKs) are not necessarily representative of the population as a whole.
Apart from that I tend to agree with others that in general white men, and certainly white men who regularly see non-white girls, care less about skin tone than others do. So a light skinned girl who might count as a 9 to Asians might be a 7 to Farangs and vice-versa for dark skinned girls, so the girls are going to go where they are most appreciated I. E. Earn most.It should really be called "colorism" rather than "racism" I agree and really more about personal choice. I do not like dark meat. Sorry I just don't. The coffee and cream is my color of preference and a nice bottom. Going the other way don't like white either. Too many imperfection's, freckles blemishes whatever. My taste changed when I started traveling to Asia as white before was all I knew. Asian girls just have beautiful skin as most try and stay out of the sun. My girls skin in Vietnam is just perfection and I've examined her closely, someone has to do it. She has one freckle at the bottom of a boob, that's it. Again perfection at least to me. Caucasian girls do not have skin like that. There may be a rare one but generally no. Again its personal preference of what you like to look at. Racism has nothing to do with it.
As of now (21 December) If you have Thailand pass already then you can enter Kingdom of Thailand.
If you do not have the thai pass then the registration is closing in a few hours at 22 December at 0:00 hours and will open after 4th Jan if the meeting on 4th Jan decides to open Thai pass again.
No tension if you have the thai pass already guys.
Explorer8939
12-21-21, 12:55
A major bar in Pattaya has closed due to Covid. A customer who barfined a bunch of ladies got a positive PCR test, and 2 ladies subsequently tested positive.
Banana Boi
12-21-21, 19:49
A major bar in Pattaya has closed due to Covid. A customer who barfined a bunch of ladies got a positive PCR test, and 2 ladies subsequently tested positive.Why did the bar need to close? Couldn't they have just driven this "fire truck" through the bar and sprayed it?
https://sg.news.yahoo.com/thailand-government-vehicles-roam-streets-150000711.html
As of now (21 December) If you have Thailand pass already then you can enter Kingdom of Thailand.
If you do not have the thai pass then the registration is closing in a few hours at 22 December at 0:00 hours and will open after 4th Jan if the meeting on 4th Jan decides to open Thai pass again.
No tension if you have the thai pass already guys.Except if you need to change your dates / flight at the last minute. You probably cannot resubmit and get a quick new TP like you could before. You have to pray the airline or something else doesn't cock up.
And this is the Latest, A revised Test and Go countries list. "the CCSA's operation centre will identify "high-risk" countries before holding a meeting on Friday to decide on the extent to which the "Test & Go" scheme may need to be revised. ":
https://www.bangkokpost.com/thailand/general/2235135/test-go-country-list-to-change
This is in contradiction with the official announcement that holders of TPs will be allowed to enter Thailand as per TP rules. What if you have a TP already and your country drops off the list?
Chimpo Chinn
12-21-21, 21:01
A major bar in Pattaya has closed due to Covid. A customer who barfined a bunch of ladies got a positive PCR test, and 2 ladies subsequently tested positive.Aren't you jumping to conclusions. Possible the Hookers spreading the Disease. The so called Super Spreaders.
Before Barfine does the Bar test the customer?
So many questions,?
Govt. Must be Proud warning the country of Dirty Farangs.
Banana Boi
12-21-21, 23:02
What if you have a TP already and your country drops off the list?Pretty sure that would mean you won't get in to Thailand.
No different than Israel banning USA, USA banning South Africa, Germany banning UK, etc.
A major bar in Pattaya has closed due to Covid. A customer who barfined a bunch of ladies got a positive PCR test, and 2 ladies subsequently tested positive.If you would of gave name of bar it would of been your chance to for the first time in posting history, that you gave some useful information! Do tell.
Explorer8939
12-22-21, 01:33
Aren't you jumping to conclusions. Possible the Hookers spreading the Disease. The so called Super Spreaders.
Before Barfine does the Bar test the customer?
So many questions,?
Govt. Must be Proud warning the country of Dirty Farangs.You could be right. The customer was the first to be tested, but he could have caught it from one of the ladies. Fortunately, the ladies are jabbed.
Lots of ladies coughing and sneezing. I am traveling with a Bargirl, and she is sick, a little. 9 ladies are supposed to be in isolation, but one will come to my condo in a couple of days, unless she gets really sick. She spent the night with me last week, so I will get tested today.
Banana Boi
12-22-21, 02:30
I am traveling with a Bargirl, and she is sick, a little. 9 ladies are supposed to be in isolation, but one will come to my condo in a couple of days,You're traveling with a bargirl who is sick. First thought is you should be taking her to get tested immediately. Then you are having a girl who is supposed to be in isolation come to your condo before isolation ends? Does that sound right to others?
It should really be called "colorism" rather than "racism" I agree and really more about personal choice. I do not like dark meat. Sorry I just don't. The coffee and cream is my color of preference and a nice bottom. Going the other way don't like white either. Too many imperfection's, freckles blemishes whatever. My taste changed when I started traveling to Asia as white before was all I knew. Asian girls just have beautiful skin as most try and stay out of the sun. My girls skin in Vietnam is just perfection and I've examined her closely, someone has to do it. She has one freckle at the bottom of a boob, that's it. Again perfection at least to me. Caucasian girls do not have skin like that. There may be a rare one but generally no. Again its personal preference of what you like to look at. Racism has nothing to do with it.Bear in mind, in Thailand if the skin color is closer to a cup of cream with a dash of coffee in it, much less the other way around, the girl is likely to consider herself "black" and therefore undesirable by Thai / Asian standards. LOL.
I agree there are potential problems with either extreme. Some, like the ones you mentioned regarding very white skin girls, are not addressed very often it at all.
For example, my unofficial survey result after being with hundreds of coffee with cream, cream with coffee and darker skin Thai girls of all legal ages from teenage to 45 as well as dozens of light skin Thai girls of the age and body type generally thought to be the clear preference of supposedly more discerning Asian men is that a much, much higher percentage of those light skin Thai girls have funky if not off putting bad smelling vaginas.
Yep. Sorry, but there it is and I repeat it is only my experience after 10+ years and I believe plenty of samples; it is extremely rare for me to encounter a bad smelling vagina on a darker skin Thai, but it is so common as to be practically expected on a light skin Thai girl, either P4P or non pro in both cases.
You're traveling with a bargirl who is sick. First thought is you should be taking her to get tested immediately. Then you are having a girl who is supposed to be in isolation come to your condo before isolation ends? Does that sound right to others?Please tell me one time "anything" he has said made even a bit of common sense, BB how about when things were finally opening up and somewhat normal he was going to not do 20 -30 girls a week "anymore" and have }"1" yup just one move in with him and slow down, I wonder why? Don't even have to tell you why!
Explorer8939
12-22-21, 08:58
You're traveling with a bargirl who is sick. First thought is you should be taking her to get tested immediately. Then you are having a girl who is supposed to be in isolation come to your condo before isolation ends? Does that sound right to others?Negative Covid tests all around, no worries.
Mr Enternational
12-22-21, 15:07
light skin Thai girls of the age and body type generally thought to be the clear preference of supposedly more discerning Asian men is that a much, much higher percentage of those light skin Thai girls have funky if not off putting bad smelling vaginas.Maybe that is the draw. It could be one of those delicacy deals like eating fish eggs or pig bowels. The story of the lady cooking a whole chicken in the pan that was too small comes to mind. She did it because she saw her mother do it. The mother did it because she saw her mother do it. The grandmother did it because she did not have a pan big enough. Just follow what a person you look up to does not knowing the reason behind it.
Foreigners are thinking it is the skin color that matters while the Asians are keen on that type of skin color is more likely to give off the odor they are searching for. They might be talking amongst each other about the good smelly one they found last night.
Yep. Sorry, but there it is and I repeat it is only my experience after 10+ years and I believe plenty of samples; it is extremely rare for me to encounter a bad smelling vagina on a darker skin Thai, but it is so common as to be practically expected on a light skin Thai girl, either P4P or non pro in both cases.Wouldn't that be because the light-skin ones are more popular and therefore have a higher turnover of customers? Many customers = repeated betadine douches, vagina flora fucked up.
HorseTrader
12-22-21, 15:51
For example, my unofficial survey result after being with hundreds of coffee with cream, cream with coffee and darker skin Thai girls of all legal ages from teenage to 45 as well as dozens of light skin Thai girls of the age and body type generally thought to be the clear preference of supposedly more discerning Asian men is that a much, much higher percentage of those light skin Thai girls have funky if not off putting bad smelling vaginas.Are you suggesting the correlation between skin color and pussy smell is due to DNA or life style (diet, exercise, hygiene, frequency of sex)? I've had more than a few where pre-shower play would reveal a problem, which was later corrected by a shower. I've also had plenty where the first portion of DATY was nice, but after a couple of minutes the taste and smell would degrade.
Foreigners are thinking it is the skin color that matters while the Asians are keen on that type of skin color is more likely to give off the odor they are searching for. They might be talking amongst each other about the good smelly one they found last night.Actor Dennis Farina movie quote: "Spray some aftershave on your balls. They (the women) love it when the balls smell nice, lets them know you care."
Yes, if you want a general holiday, Pattaya is not so great.I respectfully differ.
Yes, the naughty boy scene is front and center in Pattaya. No question about it. But unlike Bangkok, it's also a seaside town that caters to people on holiday where you can have a nice time without drinking or chasing girls. You won't be soaking up highbrow culture or spending big money on world class shopping or dining. But you can always find a calm spot to sit with a cold drink and watch the world go by. You can always find a decent meal for a reasonable price. If your ideal holiday includes more active pursuits, Pattaya allows a totally pedestrian lifestyle (providing you're not lodging way the heck out on the Dark Side). There are gyms and golf outings galore. Wi-fi is ubiquitous and reliable, so if you're a member in good standing of the Laptop Class you can take care of business 24/7. And it's easy to strike up conversations with other people who are on holiday because they are usually in a sanook mood.
Don't get me wrong. I enjoy the hustle and bustle of Bangkok and always make time in my holiday to hang out there. But the majority of my visit you'll find me ambling around Pattaya in my shorts, taking my holiday as it comes. Maybe today I'll stop by Witherspoon's to have a Penang curry and watch the badminton. Or I'll get up early and take a long walk near the sea. Or I'll wander around Tukcom for an hour until I find that electronic gadget I didn't know I couldn't live without. And while I'm in that part of town, I might as well drop by the tailor and have some shirts made.
You get the idea. There is more to Pattaya than the naughty boy scene. You just have to make a little effort to appreciate it.
Chimpo Chinn
12-22-21, 20:08
For once I have to question Eih.
I only take light skin Creamy Girls. Only once have I found one that Smelled.
Wouldn't that be because the light-skin ones are more popular and therefore have a higher turnover of customers? Many customers = repeated betadine douches, vagina flora fucked up.I don't know if the light skin girls I am talking about were taken (the P4P ones) or dated (the non pros) more often than the darker skin girls, but that might have been the case. I would say for the P4P girls, their higher desirability among Asian customers and greater ability to be the ones calling the shots, literally, with their customers might very well have meant many more of their sexual intercourse activities involve condoms than the darker skin girls. Which can contribute to vaginal dryness and inflammation.
And, yes, combine that with all the douching and washing afterwards and you've got a recipe for offensively smelly vagina. Being obsessive about avoiding direct vaginal contact with human skin rather than latex and then scrubbing away any possible traces of inadvertent body fluid invasion as soon as possible has its own set of potential downsides.
Are you suggesting the correlation between skin color and pussy smell is due to DNA or life style (diet, exercise, hygiene, frequency of sex)? I've had more than a few where pre-shower play would reveal a problem, which was later corrected by a shower. I've also had plenty where the first portion of DATY was nice, but after a couple of minutes the taste and smell would degrade.I'll have to go with it being more of a DNA issue. Showering helps. But, as you suggest, only temporarily until the natural vaginal fluids start flowing again and the intrinsic odor returns. And I suppose that could still be related to diet. But I don't think the light skin girls were eating different Thai foods than the darker skin girls.
It just struck me over and over again at a much higher percentage than what I experienced with darker skin Thai girls that whatever it was that produced this light skin in Thai girls was not a good mix for natural vaginal chemistry. Something is out of balance and at war with itself in there.
Oh, I could endure it. It wasn't intolerable. But it was also not nearly as pleasantly odorless or as invitingly tasty as the vast majority of darker skin Thai girls naturally possessed even if they just stripped off without showering after a bicycle ride on a hot humid day.
Explorer8939
12-23-21, 00:32
I am traveling with my ex, and she informed me that her customer gave her 20 K bahthor Homo th. But only went with her 3 times so far.
So, I am fucking her in Chiang Lai, he thinks she is in the village.
The lesson here is not to pay a lady a monthly fee unless she is living with you.
Of course, my ex is upset that I see other ladies, even though she has an exclusive customer. That's classic bargirl logic.
For once I have to question Eih.
I only take light skin Creamy Girls. Only once have I found one that Smelled.Well, I am only relating my experience in the past and until recently, not predicting the future or stating what can be proven objectively like the description of something stated on a menu. And even in my experience it wasn't 100% for light skin girls vs 0% for dark skin girls.
Of course, YMMV.
Then again, if you have only been with light skin girls, how would you know what percentage of them had funky to bad smelling vaginas vs dark skin girls?
Explorer8939
12-23-21, 07:53
I am traveling with my ex, and she informed me that her customer gave her 20 K bahthor Homo th. But only went with her 3 times so far.
So, I am fucking her in Chiang Lai, he thinks she is in the village.
The lesson here is not to pay a lady a monthly fee unless she is living with you.
Of course, my ex is upset that I see other ladies, even though she has an exclusive customer. That's classic bargirl logic.20 K bath for one month.
And just like that, he saw her social media and busted her. She seems to think she has it under control.
What would you do if you gave a lady 20 K baht for an exclusive relationship and she spent the month with another guy? Marry her?
Banana Boi
12-23-21, 16:55
What would you do if you gave a lady 20 K baht for an exclusive relationship and she spent the month with another guy?Don't they all go with other guys when you're not in town?
I wouldn't give a girl 20,000 baht and be her Sponsor when I'm not around. If I were with her daily when I am physically in Thailand then yes I would give her 20,000. Of course if I want to hit Soi 6 when she goes home for a few hours to pick up fresh clothes or feed her starving cat that's my choice.
Explorer8939
12-23-21, 23:07
Don't they all go with other guys when you're not in town?
I wouldn't give a girl 20,000 baht and be her Sponsor when I'm not around. If I were with her daily when I am physically in Thailand then yes I would give her 20,000. Of course if I want to hit Soi 6 when she goes home for a few hours to pick up fresh clothes or feed her starving cat that's my choice.This guy lives in Pattaya, but the girl doesn't live with him.
So now he can see her posts showing what she does when she is not with him. I suspect he is thinking long term relationship, which is his first mistake.
Anyway, I will deliver her back to him today, slightly used.
Note to self: I am just a customer, too. Can't forget that in Pattaya.
Today I will take a Mamasan to a nice hotel in Naklua. My goal is to teach her about sex. Yeah, good luck with that. She is great for short time, she can get a guy to finish quick, no problem. And she gives what many consider GFE. But it's not real GFE, it's just intended for the customer to finish as quickly as possible. My intent is to have her consider trying to enjoy herself a bit, apart from the professional fulfillment when the customer finishes. I run into a lot of older ladies who only know how to make a man finish because that is what they did with their Thai husband.
Of course, Thai ladies don't like to talk about sex, so it's a challenge. But if I am going to repeat with a lady, I try to get her to up her game.
Crazy4Thai
12-24-21, 03:15
The best pussy smell I ever wallowed in was one of those lovely tan smooth skinned ladies. We had loads of fun in a few ways but that small made me crazy for Thai pussy.
Arrived at BKK to an empty airport (both inside and outside) two weeks ago. Not one plane at a gate when we landed. It was a Thai Airways flight, maybe half full. Of those flying there were 'few' solo guys, it was mostly farangs with their Thai family flying home with the scattered individual Thai's flying home. My guess is maybe 50 out of 200 passengers were solo guys flying to Thailand. Had all of my paperwork printed out and stapled together which I had to pull out at every leg. Tons more steps to consider vs the normal routine that's so easy to remember. Made it through immigration without any question as to my departure flight, only uploaded a one way flight when I applied for my QR code and 60 day visa. Surprised there weren't more questions asked. Finally found my hotel transportation and was whisked into a waiting taxi that drove me all of 2 km's away to another waiting vehicle for the ride down to Pattaya. There were few passengers waiting for their SHA shuttle. Why?. Because all of the Thai's just piled into regular taxi's and went home to quarantine. Think there's a flaw in this setup. Just remember its the tourists responsible for any covid spread.
Made it through the one day of quarantine mainly by sleeping the entire day, eating the food left at my door. They are really careful to check you in behind their plastic sheets, run you over to the nurse for your covid test and then escorted up to your room. Oddly the guy escorting me seemed to want a tip and accepted 40 baht for his trouble from my possibly contaminated hand to his ungloved hand. Again, maybe a flaw in their setup here. All clear and I could leave my room (which was in another building) and although your keycard wouldn't let you back in I'm sure if you placed some tape over the door lock you could easily make a beer run without anyone seeing. But I was more in tune with sleeping off the extra fatigue from the booster shot I got the day before I flew out (luckily no fever).
So how's the talent been? Well pretty good actually, all from Thai Friendly. Problem is there is absolutely no business for these girls. Just saw a girl today and her story is the same as many of the others I saw. I'm her third customer and she's going back home with little money. You see a girl and its the same story over and over again. Lots of the old timers hanging out in LK Metro but they've already got their regulars. What I do find interesting is these TF girls will give out their LINE ID but then never reply to your message. LK had a lot of foot traffic, those bars with the signs saying you must have food on your table even though they didn't have a kitchen or even menus from nearby restaurants. Soi 6 is a shell of its former self, some bars with good lookers but didn't seen any girls going upstairs or getting barfined. Just the lady drink hustle.
If the gogo's reopen on Jan 16th will there even be tourists here to support them? Will the girls show up to work in dead gogos? Will there be enough new arrivals to keep things going? Well lots of unknowns. But it is good to be back.
Chimpo Chinn
12-24-21, 20:40
MeThinks hot agogo girls will be back when the Singaporeans, Koreans, Japanese come back Horny again.
They seem to drive the agogo Scene.
Problem is they can't just come and go from their country of Original.
Explorer8939
12-25-21, 04:14
This morning, a Mamasan told me that she didn't go with customers, many wanted to barfine her, but she said she could not. The only problem was that she told me this in bed after a night of paid hot sex.
Thailand bargirl logic.
My ex is furious I am barfining the Mamasan, she considers it a breach of our relationship although we broke up six months ago, and today some idiot will probably offer to marry her.
Thailand bargirl logic.
Explorer8939
12-25-21, 04:19
Covid is beginning to hit the bars hard.
I have a 3 day pool villa reservation starting on the 27th, with 3 sets of ladies coming. But, some are dropping out due to positive Covid tests or symptoms of Covid. Some had Covid and are now testing positive. Some cashiers are getting infected, even though they have minimum customer contact.
I saw one guy who is symptomatic posting on Facebook from TreeTown.
Some bars require that ladies test every day. Meanwhile, Omicron clusters are emerging around Thailand.
Be careful out there.
Explorer8939
12-25-21, 11:20
https://thepattayanews.com/2021/12/24/restaurant-in-pattaya-area-notifies-everyone-who-visited-recently-in-relation-to-chonburi-confirmed-covid-19-cases/
As you can imagine, the ladies at Camel Toe are either tested, or in quarantine.
HorseTrader
12-25-21, 17:22
Covid is beginning to hit the bars hard.
I have a 3 day pool villa reservation starting on the 27th, with 3 sets of ladies coming. But, some are dropping out due to positive Covid tests or symptoms of Covid. Some had Covid and are now testing positive. Some cashiers are getting infected, even though they have minimum customer contact.
I saw one guy who is symptomatic posting on Facebook from TreeTown.
Some bars require that ladies test every day. Meanwhile, Omicron clusters are emerging around Thailand.
Be careful out there.Google's published daily new case numbers for Thailand has shown a steady decline from about 21,000 in mid-August down to about 2,700 now. Informal reports from people like Explorer give me concern that the published data are much lower than reality. I have other Thai sources that tell of their friends getting COVID recently, but none in the past.
Who has confidence in the published new case counts? The Thailand numbers that I see via google are consistent with what is posted every day on Fabulous 103 Pattaya.
Mr Enternational
12-25-21, 19:47
Who has confidence in the published new case counts? The Thailand numbers that I see via google are consistent with what is posted every day on Fabulous 103 Pattaya.For what? What are you going to do different whether the number is 1 or 1000?
HorseTrader
12-25-21, 20:42
For what? What are you going to do different whether the number is 1 or 1000?Very simple. If I believe the new cases per day is a small number, I'll do the Phuket sandbox and then travel about. If I believe it is a high number, I'll stay home even if entry rules are easy.
Crocodilexp
12-25-21, 22:02
Informal reports from people like Explorer give me concern that the published data are much lower than reality... Who has confidence in the published new case counts? The Thailand numbers that I see via google are consistent with what is posted every day on Fabulous 103 Pattaya.In addition to case counts, look at positivity rate (share of positive tests) in addition to case numbers. It's a useful indication of how many cases they might be missing. For Thailand it's 13% (last published on Dec 11), not great, but at the height of the pandemic in August it was above 30%. Ideally, it should be around 3%, Malaysia is there right now, they test enough.
Anecdotes are completely worthless.
Explorer8939
12-26-21, 01:44
Here's a new line from a bargirl: You are not customer, you are friend.
Explorer8939
12-26-21, 05:42
In addition to case counts, look at positivity rate (share of positive tests) in addition to case numbers. It's a useful indication of how many cases they might be missing. For Thailand it's 13% (last published on Dec 11), not great, but at the height of the pandemic in August it was above 30%. Ideally, it should be around 3%, Malaysia is there right now, they test enough.
Anecdotes are completely worthless.I have no idea how bad Covid-19 is in Pattaya now. All I know is that it is impacting which ladies are available for barfining, for me.
Last night, I had 4 ladies ask to come to my place, because they aren't working, due to Covid quarantine. I passed on that tempting offer.
I also don't know what flavor of Covid is being spread. I suspect that it's Omicron, and that the cheap test kits can't detect it. And it doesn't make anyone really sick.
Explorer8939
12-26-21, 05:58
I had my Mamasan lady come over last night, for more training. And the training is paying off, she is giving more realistic GFE, not just trying to have me finish as fast as possible. I hope she is enjoying it at least a little, because it would be a nightmare to have to fake it that long every night.
Today my ex came over for an alcohol free day, tomorrow, her twin sister will visit me at a pool villa. The twin sister is dead in bed, but maybe I can do something about that.
For short time, I am okay with poor performance by the lady, they can be a dead fish, or they can frantically try to have me finish quick, I don't mind. But for Long Time, I expect more, especially if I am repeating with a lady.
BlueMoon22
12-26-21, 07:06
It's Up and running. It wasn't closed / seized by the feds, it shut itself down. Now you can't post about prices. I'm not finding any current posts about Thailand nor any Thai escort ads there.Wow that is good news. I just read up and you are right it looks like they just blocked access to people in the US for a year or so but it's back up now. I will have to check it out again! Thanks for the info! Been awhile since I wanted to use it and then when I wanted to it was down.
BlueMoon22
12-26-21, 07:08
It's Up and running. It wasn't closed / seized by the feds, it shut itself down. Now you can't post about prices. I'm not finding any current posts about Thailand nor any Thai escort ads there.A shame about the pricing but it's usually not too hard to figure out what range they will be in.
BlueMoon22
12-26-21, 08:29
It's Up and running. It wasn't closed / seized by the feds, it shut itself down. Now you can't post about prices. I'm not finding any current posts about Thailand nor any Thai escort ads there.Just logged in and unfortunately not much in the way of Thailand or any other places that have a lot better bang for your buck. Thanks for the info!
Your comments are a broad general observation that it "does not make anyone really sick" (Omicron). A quick review of the Bangkok Post from yesterday reveals two new cases found in Chiang Mai of two tourists, one who ended up hospitalized, the other who experienced severe fatigue. Neither cases were detected in the test and go program. Now they are trying to track down their innumerable contacts of which there are many since they flew on separate flights to Chiang Mai from Bangkok. It may not kill you — if you are fully vaccinated — but it certainly can put you in the hospital.
I have no idea how bad Covid-19 is in Pattaya now. All I know is that it is impacting which ladies are available for barfining, for me.
Last night, I had 4 ladies ask to come to my place, because they aren't working, due to Covid quarantine. I passed on that tempting offer.
I also don't know what flavor of Covid is being spread. I suspect that it's Omicron, and that the cheap test kits can't detect it. And it doesn't make anyone really sick.
Member #4753
12-26-21, 23:33
Data is suggesting you are around 75% less likely to be hospitalised if you get Omnicron V Delta. And when hospitilzied your chance of being put into ICU is very small.
Source: Dr. John Campbell, probably one of the best, unbiased specialists in this field. (good youtube channel).
HorseTrader
12-27-21, 00:41
...A quick review of the Bangkok Post from yesterday reveals two new cases found in Chiang Mai of two tourists, one who ended up hospitalized, the other who experienced severe fatigue. Neither cases were detected in the test and go program.Future "Test and Go" entries are required to have the PCR test upon entry plus a follow-up PCR test (free) on day 5-6. That should identify travelers who caught COVID during their flights to Thailand. After your negative entry PCR test, you will be allowed to go wherever you please, but you need to define where you will be on day 5-6 so the follow up PCR test can be arranged.
Explorer8939
12-27-21, 01:34
I went to Soi Chaiyapoon and TreeTown last night, quite busy.
The scene looks partially recovered already. I don't know what's going to happen when MicroCovid hits, the bars will probably close again.
Explorer8939
12-27-21, 02:04
3 days of pool villa fun start today.
Today, I put my ex-girlfriend's twin sister in charge of recruiting the ladies. My job is to bring stuff for 3 days of parties, including tequila.
Tomorrow, her twin sister is in charge, and on the third day, I put a Mamasan in charge to recruit ladies. She has a bunch of Soi 6 types on her list.
Future "Test and Go" entries are required to have the PCR test upon entry plus a follow-up PCR test (free) on day 5-6. That should identify travelers who caught COVID during their flights to Thailand. After your negative entry PCR test, you will be allowed to go wherever you please, but you need to define where you will be on day 5-6 so the follow up PCR test can be arranged.I remember reading somewhere in the QR program that you were supposed to do a self test on the 5th day, at least that's what my foggy memory tells me after jumping through all of the hoops. If that was the case I never received anything after the test upon landing came back negative. The just wanted to be done with me and get onto the next guest behind their plastic screens.
I went to Soi Chaiyapoon and TreeTown last night, quite busy.
The scene looks partially recovered already. I don't know what's going to happen when MicroCovid hits, the bars will probably close again.Yes the place was hopping, traffic is just like it has always been. A bottleneck. Noticed lots of tourists walking around without a mask, wonder how long that will be acceptable. Stopped by Prime Burger and had one of their smash burgers. Absolutely fantastic. Also amazed to see the manager and the hostess walking around without masks on as well.
On a side note. Its happened many times here. Saw a girl from Thai Friendly who listed herself as 5'4 and in walks this tiny waif of a girl. Get things going and she's just super tiny, she pulls out a condom and puts it on me and rolls it down barely 2 inches and spreads her legs. No attempt to roll it all of the way down. My guess is she's new to the scene and has never used a condom before. Has happened many times overseas for me.
Future "Test and Go" entries are required to have the PCR test upon entry plus a follow-up PCR test (free) on day 5-6. That should identify travelers who caught COVID during their flights to Thailand. After your negative entry PCR test, you will be allowed to go wherever you please, but you need to define where you will be on day 5-6 so the follow up PCR test can be arranged.
As far as I have understood the new rules, you have to stay in quarantine for 7 days (if you're fully vaccinated) or 10 days (if you're not vaccinated). Even if your entry PCR test is negative.
The only exception is the Phuket Sandbox.
As of December 22 you can only apply for alternative quarantine or the Phuket Sandbox. You cannot apply for Test & Go anymore.
So this means at least 7 days of quarantine if you want to go to Bangkok or Pattaya directly.
I think the course of events that HorseTrader described only applies to people who have obtained their Thailand Pass QR code before December 22.
Member #4753
12-27-21, 08:23
As far as I have understood the new rules, you have to stay in quarantine for 7 days (if you're fully vaccinated) or 10 days (if you're not vaccinated). Even if your entry PCR test is negative.
The only exception is the Phuket Sandbox.
As of December 22 you can only apply for alternative quarantine or the Phuket Sandbox. You cannot apply for Test & Go anymore.
So this means at least 7 days of quarantine if you want to go to Bangkok or Pattaya directly.Yes, that is correct. The test and go and all sandbox programs except Phuket have been suspended until January 4. They will make an announcement on Jan 4 as to whether the program will restart or remained suspended. Most people are resigned for the suspension to continue until there is a clear outcome on Omnicron cases.
The people that applied and received their Thai Pass can still enter under the test and go program or sandbox programs around the country.
Explorer8939
12-27-21, 08:56
I tried to go shopping, but the baht busses were all completely filled, so I gave up. Yeah, Pattaya is busy now.
Locamotive
12-27-21, 10:08
As far as I have understood the new rules, you have to stay in quarantine for 7 days (if you're fully vaccinated) or 10 days (if you're not vaccinated). Even if your entry PCR test is negative.
The only exception is the Phuket Sandbox.
As of December 22 you can only apply for alternative quarantine or the Phuket Sandbox. You cannot apply for Test & Go anymore.
So this means at least 7 days of quarantine if you want to go to Bangkok or Pattaya directly.
I think the course of events that HorseTrader described only applies to people who have obtained their Thailand Pass QR code before December 22.So now even vaccinated in quarantine??I thought they wanted to help the travel and tourist industry, not like this. On a 2 week break I'm certainly not going to waste of week of it in quarantine and allot of others won't either. Looks like I got the shot for nothing.
HorseTrader
12-27-21, 15:27
Future "Test and Go" entries are required to have the PCR test upon entry plus a follow-up PCR test (free) on day 5-6. That should identify travelers who caught COVID during their flights to Thailand. After your negative entry PCR test, you will be allowed to go wherever you please, but you need to define where you will be on day 5-6 so the follow up PCR test can be arranged.
I think the course of events that HorseTrader described only applies to people who have obtained their Thailand Pass QR code before December 22.Mogwai is correct. My post was not clear on that point.
Unless you already have your QR code, the current policy makes the 7-day Phuket Sandbox the only reasonable way to enter Thailand.
I remember reading somewhere in the QR program that you were supposed to do a self test on the 5th day, at least that's what my foggy memory tells me after jumping through all of the hoops. If that was the case I never received anything after the test upon landing came back negative. The just wanted to be done with me and get onto the next guest behind their plastic screens.
.When did you land? The 2nd test in the Test & Go scheme was introduced the same day they shut down the Test & Go server.
Chimpo Chinn
12-27-21, 17:22
I remember reading somewhere in the QR program that you were supposed to do a self test on the 5th day, at least that's what my foggy memory tells me after jumping through all of the hoops. If that was the case I never received anything after the test upon landing came back negative. The just wanted to be done with me and get onto the next guest behind their plastic screens.
Yes the place was hopping, traffic is just like it has always been. A bottleneck. Noticed lots of tourists walking around without a mask, wonder how long that will be acceptable. Stopped by Prime Burger and had one of their smash burgers. Absolutely fantastic. Also amazed to see the manager and the hostess walking around without masks on as well.
On a side note. Its happened many times here. Saw a girl from Thai Friendly who listed herself as 5'4 and in walks this tiny waif of a girl. Get things going and she's just super tiny, she pulls out a condom and puts it on me and rolls it down barely 2 inches and spreads her legs. No attempt to roll it all of the way down. My guess is she's new to the scene and has never used a condom before. Has happened many times overseas for me.Corona are sardines. Masks are like a Tuna net. You do the math.
Banana Boi
12-27-21, 19:52
I remember reading somewhere in the QR program that you were supposed to do a self test on the 5th day, There was no 2nd test on the 5th day when you landed for your Test and Go. That is new.
Explorer8939
12-28-21, 00:30
I spent the night in a pool villa with 4 drunk ladies. 2 were up for anything, but 2 came from a village and didn't want the other to know she fucked me.
There was the obligatory swimming, after which 2 ladies showered with me.
Then there was drinking.
I managed to peel away one of the village ladies and take a bubble bath with her while the other ladies got drunk on tequila. Then, I took the other village lady to bed, fucked her, but then she complained about the air conditioning. So I switched her out with the other village lady, who was hot to go at that point, and I slept with her all night.
I was invited by the village ladies to spend New Years in their village, but I don't think their husband's would appreciate that.
Anyway, the pool villa is probably best for 2 ladies, if they like each other.
Explorer8939
12-28-21, 07:26
Thai ladies have an odd approach to sex with Farangs. From their perspective, sex with Farangs doesn't count. I know married Thai ladies for sneak out to fuck Farangs, and from their perspective, If they fuck a Farang for money, it doesn't count. However, if they fuck a Thai man for free, that is cheating on their husband. If they fuck a Thai man for money, they are working girls. If they fuck a Farang for free, that is very bad.
If they fuck a Thai karaoke boy and give him money, that is very bad if she is married. If she is single and pays a Thai boy, other ladies will laugh, but are secretly jealous.
If a Thai lady has a Farang living with her, but she hooks up with a Thai man on the side, that is 100% normal. If she lives with a Farang, but fucks other Farangs for money, well, a lady has to make a living. No shame there.
But, if the Farang goes with another Thai lady, it's the end of the fucking world.
This is Thailand.
There was no 2nd test on the 5th day when you landed for your Test and Go. That is new.
I remember reading somewhere in the QR program that you were supposed to do a self test on the 5th day, at least that's what my foggy memory tells me after jumping through all of the hoops. If that was the case I never received anything after the test upon landing came back negative. The just wanted to be done with me and get onto the next guest behind their plastic screens.
In the Test and Go program (that is now suspended) they said you would receive a self test kit, if the PCR-test upon entry came back negative. With this test kit you were supposed to test yourself after 5 or 6 days, but I have never received this kit either when I was in Bangkok in November. Nor did I hear anyone say anything about it.
So now even vaccinated in quarantine??I thought they wanted to help the travel and tourist industry, not like this. They did, but Omicron ruined everything.
Banana Boi
12-28-21, 08:11
I attached the original Test and Go scheme from Nov 1. My comments were for fully vaccinated people from one of the 63 countries. There is no mention of a 2nd test. A second test was required for those fully vaccinated from a country other than the 63 exempt countries or for someone who is unvaccinated.
I only double checked because I had not remembered reading about a 2nd test and was seeing if I missed something. For all the hours I spent reading Thaiger, Royal Thai Government Gazette, and AN as well as watching Jay, Jett, Natty, and Jang on Youtube I was questioning my learning skills at my old age!
Anyways, all irrelevant now!
PedroMorales
12-28-21, 08:40
Data is suggesting you are around 75% less likely to be hospitalised if you get Omnicron V Delta. And when hospitilzied your chance of being put into ICU is very small.
Source: Dr. John Campbell, probably one of the best, unbiased specialists in this field. (good youtube channel).John Campbell is am English nurse, who did a PhD in hospital management. He is not a medical physician and nor is he a specialist. He does, tbf, put in the hours tracking Covid and commenting on same.
Robert F Kennedy Jnr is likewise not a specialist. However, if you even listen to the acknowledgements to his Dr Fauci book here, you can see he has some very serious connections.
https://e1.pcloud.link/publink/show?code=kZnmpFZqfY8MNOKk7BLkl9UWvF5bjlSEFpX#returl=https%3 A // e1. Pcloud. Link / publink / show%3 Fcode%3 DkZnmpFZqfY8 MNOKk7 BLkl9 UWvF5 bjlSEFpX&page=login.
The guy who shared that link with me said Kennedy had even more serious backers, global household names he named but, if I repeated them it would derail any conversation, needlessly at this point. I was going to post a link Jimmy Dore did with RFK Jnr but Dore has removed the video.
I don't have sufficient information to decide on all these things and nor do I have sufficient trust in Fauci and his co-conspirators. However, I am interested in your travails as I have lost st least 6-8 flights / vacations during this Covid madness, with another two flights lost next month.
For those of you criticizing the flip flops of the Thai authorities, things are much worse in Europe. Where the irresponsible British cannot be consistent from one day to the next.
My take away from this threat and the boomerang backlashes you are all suffering from these flip flops is to sit tight, and not so much ride out the Coviod storm as forget about it all and try to develop a new life in this fascistic new normal we are being subjected to.
You could be right Banana Boi, even though the confirmation letter that I got from my hotel for my Test & Go booking mentioned this antigen test kit. And I am fully vaccinated and from one of the 63 countries.
Member #4753
12-28-21, 09:58
I attached the original Test and Go scheme from Nov 1. My comments were for fully vaccinated people from one of the 63 countries. There is no mention of a 2nd test. A second test was required for those fully vaccinated from a country other than the 63 exempt countries or for someone who is unvaccinated.
I only double checked because I had not remembered reading about a 2nd test and was seeing if I missed something. For all the hours I spent reading Thaiger, Royal Thai Government Gazette, and AN as well as watching Jay, Jett, Natty, and Jang on Youtube I was questioning my learning skills at my old age!
Anyways, all irrelevant now!On the 22nd of December they suspended new applications for test and go and sandbox schemes (except Phuket).
All people that has already been given a Thai pass or had already lodged the Thai pass application could still come to Thailand, however a new condition was added to the test and go. And that is the second test of day 5.
So yes, if you arrived before 22nd on test and go there was just 1 test. If you are arriving after 22nd there are now 2 tests.
Ass Addict
12-28-21, 11:27
Thai ladies have an odd approach to sex with Farangs. From their perspective, sex with Farangs doesn't count.
This is Thailand.You're surrounded by dumbass Thai bargirls every day and it seems that you listen and believe to whatever they say. You're generalizing their behavior with the one of every Thai ladies. Either you're as dumb as they are or you pretend to be so.
In the Test and Go program (that is now suspended) they said you would receive a self test kit, if the PCR-test upon entry came back negative. With this test kit you were supposed to test yourself after 5 or 6 days, but I have never received this kit either when I was in Bangkok in November. Nor did I hear anyone say anything about it.The ASQ hotel where you booked your 1-day quarantine was supposed to provide you with the kit. The kit was in the package "1 hotel night + PCR + transport from airport + self-test kit". Maybe the hotel wanted to save on the self-test since from now on you're required to do a 2nd PCR-test.
Banana Boi
12-28-21, 14:38
You could be right Banana Boi, even though the confirmation letter that I got from my hotel for my Test & Go booking mentioned this antigen test kit. And I am fully vaccinated and from one of the 63 countries.For fun I checked my pre-Dec 22 AQ Test and Go hotel email and mine says I get an ATK self test kit too!
HorseTrader
12-28-21, 16:29
For fun I checked my pre-Dec 22 AQ Test and Go hotel email and mine says I get an ATK self test kit too!My Test and Go hotel had conflicting information. Their website said I get an ATK self test kit, but the menu of items provided at online purchase checkout did not list it nor did it list any food to be provided for the first day. Doesn't matter for me, I missed the deadline to get the QR code. Now I'm considering Phuket sandbox or not going to Thailand until things improve.
Same here as I was procrastinating on the deadline knowing the PM was going to make an announcement prior to Christmas in regards to Omicron. I did not want to get stuck with a non refundable AIR BnB place, or health insurance, or an ASQ hotels who took months to provide a refund. However, I did not calculate that the PM would "grandfather" in anyone who had already received a code. Which, if you think about it, is kind of ridiculous as they are going to permit at 90 k people in, according to their estimates, and cut off anyone else contemplating going to Thailand. How many of those 90 k will catch omicron coming in and not be detected?
I am not expecting any change in the policy on January 4th so unless there is another change by Mid February, I don't see Thailand being in the cards for me this winter. Airfares are also jumping astronomically, at least from the US. One consolation is I have been watching YouTube videos on Bangkok nightlife and the fun factor pales compared to days gone by. With much of the late night activities curtailed, it does not seem as much fun as it used to be. I used to love cruising and walking Suk in the early morning hours, not even to monger but just taking in the scene. That is not an option this winter, I am afraid.
My Test and Go hotel had conflicting information. Their website said I get an ATK self test kit, but the menu of items provided at online purchase checkout did not list it nor did it list any food to be provided for the first day. Doesn't matter for me, I missed the deadline to get the QR code. Now I'm considering Phuket sandbox or not going to Thailand until things improve.
Currently going thru the Test and Go (got my Thailand Pass Test & Go before they shut it down) as per usual the Thai higher ups don't really know what they are doing. Before you hit immigration at BKK, there is a QR code with a list of testing sites for "your free" 2nd Rapid PCR test and a new quarantine form you need to take with you on your appointment. Your hotel at 5 or 6 day should set you up with an appointment. But the hotel staff are confused as we are. Go to tatnews. Org for the latest announcements. Hope this helps.
Member #4753
12-28-21, 21:52
About 350 Omicron cases have been reported under the test and go scheme according to the Thaiger. The Thai government would probably quote this as a reason why not to continue test and go.
However, the test and go was seeing 10,000 arrivals a day. So the overall positivity rate was something like 0. 1 %. If you tested the general Thai population the positivity rate would probably be 10 times higher at 1%.
So it doesn't really make sense to suspend the program when your average thrice tested tourist is 10 times less likely to be positive than your local. But TIT. This is thailand.
If this was the Delta variant, they may have taken a different tack but due to the incredible high rate of transmission of Omicron I am not optimistic they will lift the current quarantine 7 day plan. If so, that decision or non-decision will kill the remaining winter tourist season. See'est La vie. (It’s really annoying you can’t even write French expressions properly on here)
About 350 Omicron cases have been reported under the test and go scheme according to the Thaiger. The Thai government would probably quote this as a reason why not to continue test and go.
However, the test and go was seeing 10,000 arrivals a day. So the overall positivity rate was something like 0. 1 %. If you tested the general Thai population the positivity rate would probably be 10 times higher at 1%.
So it doesn't really make sense to suspend the program when your average thrice tested tourist is 10 times less likely to be positive than your local. But TIT. This is thailand.
Crocodilexp
12-29-21, 01:18
I am not expecting any change in the policy on January 4thI think there's a small, but real chance they'd scrap the Phuket Sandbox on Jan 4th.
Current closures are mostly a political tussle. Anutin is aiming for the PM spot and backing Prayuth (who's in support of re-opening) into a corner. If the actual goal were to delay Omicron, they would have done this earlier (at the time they banned people from Africa), forcing everyone into ASQ, without exceptions for visitors already approved for ThailandPass or those coming through Phuket.
Whatever they decide doesn't have to make sense. It's part of a political tussle, and they have to appear to be doing something for the sake of public perception.
Mr Enternational
12-29-21, 01:38
I See'est La vie. (Its really annoying you cant even write French expressions properly on here)Pour quoi non? C'est la vie. Works fine!
Member #4753
12-29-21, 02:21
Anutin is aiming for the PM spot and backing Prayuth (who's in support of re-opening) into a corner.
Whatever they decide doesn't have to make sense. It's part of a political tussle, and they have to appear to be doing something for the sake of public perception.Anutin is a very much anti farang. He would be a pain in the ass if he became PM.
He has had a number of foot in mouth moments while bashing farangs. My favourite is when he was making a number of anti foreigner comments including how they don't wear masks. All this while surrounded by very much masked up journalists while he had his mask under his chin.
Once he made comments a week before 22nd of December that he was going to recommend abolishing the "test and go" it was dead in the water.
Explorer8939
12-29-21, 03:16
You're surrounded by dumbass Thai bargirls every day and it seems that you listen and believe to whatever they say. You're generalizing their behavior with the one of every Thai ladies. Either you're as dumb as they are or you pretend to be so.I can't speak to Thai ladies who don't work bar, but I described how Bargirls view sex with Farangs. I am sorry that you don't agree with their opinions.
The other night, some Thai man delivered his wife to my pool villa so she could have paid sex with me. You won't find a bargirl who would find that surprising, as to them, it's just business.
XXXXX.
My ex is stringing a guy along, she is trying to make him go away without directly saying so, in case she needs him again. So, for Christmas, she told him she had Covid.
HorseTrader
12-29-21, 03:50
...I am not expecting any change in the policy on January 4th so unless there is another change by Mid February, I don't see Thailand being in the cards for me this winter. Airfares are also jumping astronomically, at least from the US.Airline fares must be dependent on your itinerary and exactly when you purchase your ticket. I just looked and have never before seen lower economy class prices from my part of USA to Phuket (round trip under $900 with no ability to select your own seat). Business class is a bit more expensive than I remember from pre-COVID.
At the moment, I have zero temptation to go anyplace except the Phuket. Places like Pattaya, Samui, Chiang Mai, and Bangkok can wait until my 7-day Phuket sandbox is finished.
I don't have sufficient information to decide on all these things and nor do I have sufficient trust in Fauci and his co-conspirators. However, I am interested in your travails as I have lost st least 6-8 flights / vacations during this Covid madness, with another two flights lost next month.
For those of you criticizing the flip flops of the Thai authorities, things are much worse in Europe. Where the irresponsible British cannot be consistent from one day to the next.It sounds a lot like you feel this whole thing is a global conspiracy just to wreck your vacations. Had no idea you were so important!
Banana Boi
12-29-21, 04:49
At the moment, I have zero temptation to go anyplace except the Phuket. Are you really considering buying your 4th plane ticket?
If you are changing your plans to Phuket, wouldn't your eVisa and Thailand Pass be invalid? Those would have the wrong date of entry, hotel info, plane info, etc.
I agree that it is all about politics. But as I mentioned in a prior post, Omicron appears to be so highly transmissible that even if you are careful, have your vaccinations and booster, wear masks etc. You can still catch it and test positive upon arrival. Even if you are asymptomatic, it's off to the hospital you go courtesy of your required $50 k health care policy. Or am I incorrect about that assumption?
I think there's a small, but real chance they'd scrap the Phuket Sandbox on Jan 4th.
Current closures are mostly a political tussle. Anutin is aiming for the PM spot and backing Prayuth (who's in support of re-opening) into a corner. If the actual goal were to delay Omicron, they would have done this earlier (at the time they banned people from Africa), forcing everyone into ASQ, without exceptions for visitors already approved for ThailandPass or those coming through Phuket.
Whatever they decide doesn't have to make sense. It's part of a political tussle, and they have to appear to be doing something for the sake of public perception.
HorseTrader
12-29-21, 06:45
Are you really considering buying your 4th plane ticket?
If you are changing your plans to Phuket, wouldn't your eVisa and Thailand Pass be invalid? Those would have the wrong date of entry, hotel info, plane info, etc.You are correct. My plane tickets #1 and #2 have been refunded. Plane ticket #3 (Bangkok) will be held for some time. I don't yet have #4 in hand (Phuket). Depending on how rules change in early January, I will decide later if I will go to Bangkok or Phuket first. For me, Phuket has special important.
If I go to Phuket first, I'll need to change everything except my COVID insurance (travel dates don't change).
I've been paying premium prices so that all my flights and hotels are fully refundable.
... it's off to the hospital you go courtesy of your required $50 k health care policy. Or am I incorrect about that assumption?Who knows whether the policy pays if you're asymptomatic.
Chimpo Chinn
12-29-21, 11:07
You're surrounded by dumbass Thai bargirls every day and it seems that you listen and believe to whatever they say. You're generalizing their behavior with the one of every Thai ladies. Either you're as dumb as they are or you pretend to be so.They are LOSO girls. Low Society.
Just an observation my high level Friends say.
Member #4753
12-29-21, 11:09
I agree that it is all about politics. But as I mentioned in a prior post, Omicron appears to be so highly transmissible that even if you are careful, have your vaccinations and booster, wear masks etc. You can still catch it and test positive upon arrival. Even if you are asymptomatic, it's off to the hospital you go courtesy of your required $50 k health care policy. Or am I incorrect about that assumption?Don't forget that if you are sitting close to a person that tests positive on the Plane you will be required to stay in an ASQ hotel for 14 days. At your expense, and you cannot leave the door of your room until you test negative twice.
Welcome to LOS.
Arn Poddict
12-29-21, 15:21
Who knows whether the policy pays if you're asymptomatic.A good travel insurance pays hospital expenses due to Covid-19 regardless if your symptoms are mild, severe or you are asymptomatic. If you are asymptomatic Corona positive and you are sent to hospital in Thailand then the insurance covers the bill. I have such an insurance. Everyone should have.
BTW are you guys sure that all positive tested tourists will be sent to hospital regardless of their symptoms? Is this a raw fact or just supposition?
https://aseannow.com/topic/1244602-thai-police-launch-crackdown-on-prostitution/
Don't forget that if you are sitting close to a person that tests positive on the Plane you will be required to stay in an ASQ hotel for 14 days. At your expense, and you cannot leave the door of your room until you test negative twice.
Welcome to LOS.If you're on a 2 week trip you get to stay in a hotel for 14 days at your own expense, cannot leave your room, wank like crazy for the entire time, then get a flight back home.
We can add that point to the overall risk factors coming to Thailand now.
Don't forget that if you are sitting close to a person that tests positive on the Plane you will be required to stay in an ASQ hotel for 14 days. At your expense, and you cannot leave the door of your room until you test negative twice.
Welcome to LOS.
Who knows whether the policy pays if you're asymptomatic.This site offers CoVid insurance policies both ways: https://asq.in.th/thailand-covid-insurance.
SL.
Explorer8939
12-30-21, 02:19
I just finished 3 days of having Bargirls come to a pool villa. Unfortunately, things did not go as well as I had hoped.
My strategy was to have one lady in charge of recruiting the other ladies for each day. In reality, that meant that one lady was going to be my girlfriend for her night, and she told the other ladies to fuck off.
It worked okay the first night. I was able to fuck the prime lady at the end of the night, and switch her out with another lady afterwards.
The second night, the prime lady got so drunk she passed out, but by that time, I was asleep.
The third night, the prime lady announced she was on her period.
This site offers CoVid insurance policies both ways: https://asq.in.th/thailand-covid-insurance.
SL.That website is owned by a travel agency, anything bought off of that site most likely sends money to them. And since they are just a travel website they have no control what an insurance company will or will not pay. I used this website below, lets you input your dates and gives you a list of policies to choose from. Now I did search that travel agency's insurance likes for asymptomatic coverage but couldn't find any wording in the policies saying this was true.
https://www.forbes.com/advisor/travel-insurance/best-pandemic-travel-insurance/
Don't forget that if you are sitting close to a person that tests positive on the Plane you will be required to stay in an ASQ hotel for 14 days. At your expense, and you cannot leave the door of your room until you test negative twice.Welcome to LOS.This seems to be 'fake news', you try to find this 'rule' and your brought into chat rooms that says this is just speculation.
https://thethaiger.com/talk/topic/8455-on-plane-guy-next-to-me-has-covid-do-i-have-to-quarantine/
https://aseannow.com/topic/1244602-thai-police-launch-crackdown-on-prostitution/The money handed over to the prostitute spreads covid, money handed over in bribes doesn't because there are no bribes being taken LOL.
Barfined a cutie last night, first week in Pattaya, and it was a wild romp. Got her at a small LK metro bar. Wasn't looking really, she just happened to be the one. Ended up like a wildcat in bed. I was at soi 6 before, pickings were very slim, lots of guys drinking and buying drinks but few girls worth taking out of that street. So is Pattaya worth the trip and the risk? Yes it is. It is a fraction of what it used to be but it is better than sitting at home.
Explorer8939
12-30-21, 15:37
A couple of days ago, I sort of randomly stopped by a bar on Soi Chaiyapoon, the first time I have done so in a long time. There was a birthday girl there, but I didn't get close to her, and I was sitting outside. But now the lady has symptomatic Covid.
Fortunately, I didn't give her any money.
The bar is advertising for more ladies, so it looks like multiple ladies were infected.
Jimmy Boy 99
12-30-21, 18:57
Apparently too many customers and too few girls in Pattaya. Seller's market.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rj6SGwP5X58
PedroMorales
12-30-21, 19:28
Apparently too many customers and too few girls in Pattaya. Seller's market.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rj6SGwP5X58So the Brit says in his video. Beach Road almost empty, a hand full of skank stragglers scrolling phones, empty bars but very busy.
Mr Enternational
12-30-21, 19:38
]This seems to be 'fake news', you try to find this 'rule' and your brought into chat rooms that says this is just speculation.
https://thethaiger.com/talk/topic/8455-on-plane-guy-next-to-me-has-covid-do-i-have-to-quarantine/
You can also say that was the seat you were assigned, but not the seat you were sitting in. And what about the person that changed seats closer to the infected person, but they have no record of? They just get to roam free. People switch seats all the time. It would be ridiculous if this is true.
Arn Poddict
12-30-21, 20:11
Apparently too many customers and too few girls in Pattaya. Seller's market.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rj6SGwP5X58This looks depressing. Like a ghost town compared what Pattaya used to be.
Explorer8939
12-31-21, 00:16
Apparently too many customers and too few girls in Pattaya. Seller's market.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rj6SGwP5X58.Beach Road and Walking Street don't have a lot of activity now. Other places do.
Apparently too many customers and too few girls in Pattaya. Seller's market.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rj6SGwP5X58Sorry man, the opposite is true. There are miles upon miles of bars here with girls in each with few customers. You'll see bar after bar empty with a few cute girls begging you to come in and then several packed bars filled with Expats and a few girls. These guys aren't taking new girls, they are set in their ways and have a girl they see regularly. The beach road scene doesn't really surprise me, many times the police have beach road blocked right after soi 6 and I've had to go up to second. And the people shopping on beach road are tourists. And there really aren't all that many of them here now from the looks of things.
Yeah the video is correct in showing how dead beach road is. Same as walking street. LK metro and a few bars on soi 6 are doing good business right now.
Explorer8939
12-31-21, 03:25
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQrMDgBavtk
TreeTown last week.
Banana Boi
12-31-21, 07:21
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQrMDgBavtk
TreeTown last week.Look at 5:09 mark of the video. He says "Look at all these sexy ladies. Hello Welcome" to an obvious ladyboy! Didn't need to scan around for more after that.
Explorer8939
12-31-21, 07:54
Look at 5:09 mark of the video. He says "Look at all these sexy ladies. Hello Welcome" to an obvious ladyboy! Didn't need to scan around for more after that.You lost the plot.
The question on the table is how busy is Pattaya. Even before Covid, there were plenty of ladyboys in Pattaya, so it's not surprising that they are coming back, as Pattaya fills with tourists. But, more ladies and tourists come to Pattaya every day.
I bailed for New Years, I am in some village in Isaan with 3 ladies.
Explorer8939
12-31-21, 07:56
A venue in LK Metro has had an outbreak of Covid. Don't know if it's closed or not.
Banana Boi
12-31-21, 12:22
The question on the table is how busy is Pattaya. Even before Covid, there were plenty of ladyboys in Pattaya, so it's not surprising that they are coming back,Pretty sure most guys on here are not into ladyboys and want nothing to do with them. A video of ladyboys is irrelevant to us straight men.
I need to start being a vlogger. I'd get a gogo girl to carry the cam for me though. You guys will see my cute butt and comb over as she follows me around.
A venue in LK Metro has had an outbreak of Covid. Don't know if it's closed or not.Sure would be helpful if you started naming bars in your posts.
I believe this is the name of the bar and there is a small sign out front that says Covid and a blue tarp covers the rest of the shop.
Pretty sure most guys on here are not into ladyboys and want nothing to do with them. A video of ladyboys is irrelevant to us straight men.
I need to start being a vlogger. I'd get a gogo girl to carry the cam for me though. You guys will see my cute butt and comb over as she follows me around.
Sure would be helpful if you started naming bars in your posts.
Mr Enternational
12-31-21, 19:08
I believe this is the name of the bar and there is a small sign out front that says Covid and a blue tarp covers the rest of the shop.LOL. So Covid stays in the bar even after all the people have left out?
Banana Boi
12-31-21, 19:48
Triangle Bar. I believe this is the name of the bar and there is a small sign out front that says Covid and a blue tarp covers the rest of the shop.Thanks maybe Explorer can confirm. He did say LK Metro and Triangle Bar is Soi Xzyte / Soi 25.
https://www.tripadvisor.com/Restaurant_Review-g293919-d13276035-Reviews-Triangle_Bar-Pattaya_Chonburi_Province.html
Know nothing about the bar, staff, or clientele but clearly closed due to COViD. Yes, on Soi 23/25. According to reviews they have live bands etc.
Thanks maybe Explorer can confirm. He did say LK Metro and Triangle Bar is Soi Xzyte / Soi 25.
The triangle bar sits on the corner of Soi Excite and Soi Bumpy or to give them their proper names, Soi Chalermphrakiat 23 and 25 respectively.
The triangle bar sits on the corner of Soi Excite and Soi Bumpy or to give them their proper names, Soi Chalermphrakiat 23 and 25 respectively.As an infrequent visitor to Pattaya, is there a map or another way of finding the million streets that have colloquial names?
Mr Enternational
01-01-22, 00:32
As an infrequent visitor to Pattaya, is there a map or another way of finding the million streets that have colloquial names?Search for a bigger version of this one.
Banana Boi
01-01-22, 00:47
As an infrequent visitor to Pattaya, is there a map or another way of finding the million streets that have colloquial names?Here are some of the more prevalent ones. I only named the ones where there were / are some bars. There are many more!
Soi Pattayasaisong 13 is Soi Diana.
Soi 6 is Soi Dirty Street aka Soi Yodsak aka Soi Half a Dozen
Soi Bongkoch 8 is Soi Full love inn.
Soi Boomerang is an L shaped soi at Soi Buakhao and Buakahow 15.
Soi Chaleom Phrakiat 23 is Soi xZyte.
Soi Chaleom Phrakiat 25 aka Soi Chaiyapoon aka Soi Pothole aka Soi Bumpy.
Soi Pattayasaisong 11 is Soi Honey.
Soi 13/1 is Soi Yamato.
Soi 13/2 is Soi Post Office.
Soi 16 is Soi Arab.
Soi New Plaza is Soi Cheap Charlie aka Soi 30 baht.
Soi Sukhumvitpattaya 46/3 is Soi Batman. I mention this one because it's where Telephone Booth is.
Explorer8939
01-01-22, 01:20
Thanks maybe Explorer can confirm. He did say LK Metro and Triangle Bar is Soi Xzyte / Soi 25.No.
I walked by the Triangle Bar last week, and they had signage that talked about Covid precautions, but it was not closed.
I am in Isaan now, so I can't check.
Houston Player
01-01-22, 02:31
Thanks maybe Explorer can confirm. He did say LK Metro and Triangle Bar is Soi Xzyte / Soi 25.
No.
I walked by the Triangle Bar last week, and they had signage that talked about Covid precautions, but it was not closed.
I am in Isaan now, so I can't check.Banana Boi meant for you to confirm the name of the bar that you reported as closed due to Covid but you didn't name.
Explorer8939
01-01-22, 02:44
Banana Boi meant for you to confirm the name of the bar that you reported as closed due to Covid but you didn't name.Camel Toe was closed for 3 days before Christmas. I am unaware of any other bars closing, only about ladies in the bar infected.
300 cases in Pattaya officially, and growing.
Of the 30 ladies in my harem, about half have been diagnosed positive in the last week. I have not had physical contact with them in a while, so I am not the superspreader.
No.
I walked by the Triangle Bar last week, and they had signage that talked about Covid precautions, but it was not closed.
I am in Isaan now, so I can't check.Hi explorer, Please upload some of the photos of the provinces in Issan where you are now. Wish to see the situation there on this New Year time. Frames which includes the ladies will be highly appreciated.
Keep going man.
Regards.
Explorer8939
01-01-22, 09:59
Hi explorer, Please upload some of the photos of the provinces in Issan where you are now. Wish to see the situation there on this New Year time. Frames which includes the ladies will be highly appreciated.
Keep going man.
Regards.I am not mongering, it's strictly a social visit. All the ladies here are married and bundled up due to cold weather.
I am presently enduring a Buddhist ceremony of some sort.
Banana Boi
01-01-22, 16:35
Banana Boi meant for you to confirm the name of the bar that you reported as closed due to Covid but you didn't name.I asked around. Supposedly it's Heaven Above in Soi Boomerang, not LK Metro. 12 girls have COVID. Here is their livestream. Seems to have stopped when Explorer reported the outbreak.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ODm73HNR6e8
I am presently enduring a Buddhist ceremony of some sort.
Did you shave your head?
Any of you guys been going to Area 39? One of my gogo girls is working there. She's pretty. Some of you may consider it as part of Treetown but technically it isn't.
I'm switching from Ko Samui to Pattaya on January 10th.
Never been there before.
I prefer multi-day FL to ST.
Where would I find FL in Pattaya?
Planning to book a hotel at Pattaya beach, such as Discovery.
Houston Player
01-01-22, 17:18
Any of you guys been going to Area 39? One of my gogo girls is working there. She's pretty. Some of you may consider it as part of Treetown but technically it isn't.I recently went to area 39 I thought it sucked. I didn't like Treetown it's not my kind of place.
Banana Boi
01-01-22, 17:22
I recently went to area 39 I thought it sucked. I didn't like Treetown it's not my kind of place.Mine either. I prefer point and shoot like gogo bars or G clubs. Treetown more like iBar. I'd only swing by Treetown, grab some Line ID's if girls are hot, and bolt.
HorseTrader
01-01-22, 17:38
Of the 30 ladies in my harem, about half have been diagnosed positive in the last week. I have not had physical contact with them in a while, so I am not the superspreader.What has happened to the 15 positive ladies? Via the grapevine, I've been told of a smaller cluster of workers at a Phuket restaurant who tested positive and all were quarantined at a hotel. The negative workers were not quarantined.
In the Phuket restaurant situation, the restaurant workers were given the at-home test sticks. I don’t know how accurate those are when administered by untrained people.
Mr Enternational
01-01-22, 22:33
In the Phuket restaurant situation, the restaurant workers were given the at-home test sticks. I dont know how accurate those are when administered by untrained people.There is no training needed to rub a swab around in your nose, squeeze liquid out of a bottle, and see how many lines come up on the paper.
Chimpo Chinn
01-01-22, 23:35
I saw the video. Anyone notice he mentioned Plump when referring to girls available. Funny stuff.
Banana Boi
01-02-22, 00:53
Kiss Pattaya goodbye everyone. This is a big one!
https://thepattayanews.com/2022/01/02/chonburi-governor-releases-late-night-updated-orders-around-covid-19-and-food-and-beverage-establishments/
You will need to take an antigen test within 72 hours of eating some fries at Camel Toe, McDonald's, or T21 food park. All Camel Toe staff and McDonald's employee needs to be tested every single day! We know in reality they will specifically target those places that are bars claiming to be restaurants, then restaurants that have girls, and so on.
On the bright side I could ask a bar to see a girl's negative antigen test before I barfine her.
Explorer8939
01-02-22, 01:32
What has happened to the 15 positive ladies? Via the grapevine, I've been told of a smaller cluster of workers at a Phuket restaurant who tested positive and all were quarantined at a hotel. The negative workers were not quarantined.
In the Phuket restaurant situation, the restaurant workers were given the at-home test sticks. I dont know how accurate those are when administered by untrained people.All of the 15 positive ladies are in home isolation. Some have already finished their quarantine.
A couple asked to come over to my place while they were in isolation, and I didn't know they were Covid+. I would have been really fucked if I had agreed.
Now, one of the ladies who came to my pool villa last week is sick. She doesn't work bar, she works factory. If she is Covid+, that means Covid is in the factories, which means it's everywhere in Pattaya.
Explorer8939
01-02-22, 02:06
Kiss Pattaya goodbye everyone. This is a big one!
https://thepattayanews.com/2022/01/02/chonburi-governor-releases-late-night-updated-orders-around-covid-19-and-food-and-beverage-establishments/
You will need to take an antigen test within 72 hours of eating some fries at Camel Toe, McDonald's, or T21 food park. All Camel Toe staff and McDonald's employee needs to be tested every single day! We know in reality they will specifically target those places that are bars claiming to be restaurants, then restaurants that have girls, and so on.
On the bright side I could ask a bar to see a girl's negative antigen test before I barfine her.I suspect that this will only be enforced for a day or two.
But, I have been saying that there is Covid in the bars. It's everywhere at the moment.
Explorer8939
01-02-22, 02:30
I spent the night in a pool villa with 4 drunk ladies. 2 were up for anything, but 2 came from a village and didn't want the other to know she fucked me.
There was the obligatory swimming, after which 2 ladies showered with me.
Then there was drinking.
I managed to peel away one of the village ladies and take a bubble bath with her while the other ladies got drunk on tequila. Then, I took the other village lady to bed, fucked her, but then she complained about the air conditioning. So I switched her out with the other village lady, who was hot to go at that point, and I slept with her all night.
I was invited by the village ladies to spend New Years in their village, but I don't think their husband's would appreciate that.
Anyway, the pool villa is probably best for 2 ladies, if they like each other.I just found out the lady I slept with on the 27th has Covid and is in isolation. I tested negative on the 31st, but maybe that was too soon.
Let's hope my 5 vaccinations protect me from infection.
Kiss Pattaya goodbye everyone. This is a big one!
https://thepattayanews.com/2022/01/02/chonburi-governor-releases-late-night-updated-orders-around-covid-19-and-food-and-beverage-establishments/
You will need to take an antigen test within 72 hours of eating some fries at Camel Toe, McDonald's, or T21 food park. All Camel Toe staff and McDonald's employee needs to be tested every single day! We know in reality they will specifically target those places that are bars claiming to be restaurants, then restaurants that have girls, and so on.
On the bright side I could ask a bar to see a girl's negative antigen test before I barfine her.It's been a good two weeks of muted fun in Bangkok and Pattaya and today is my last day. I've got something arranged for the afternoon and I guess that I will be ordering meals from foodpanda. I got an antigen test yesterday morning for my return flight so I can wave that around if needed.
Explorer8939
01-02-22, 13:05
Omicron is in Pattaya.
The authorities claim that the flavor of Covid that is infecting the bars is Omicron.
If you are not vaccinated, stay away from the bars.
Kiss Pattaya goodbye everyone. This is a big one!
https://thepattayanews.com/2022/01/02/chonburi-governor-releases-late-night-updated-orders-around-covid-19-and-food-and-beverage-establishments/
You will need to take an antigen test within 72 hours of eating some fries at Camel Toe, McDonald's, or T21 food park. All Camel Toe staff and McDonald's employee needs to be tested every single day! We know in reality they will specifically target those places that are bars claiming to be restaurants, then restaurants that have girls, and so on.
On the bright side I could ask a bar to see a girl's negative antigen test before I barfine her.Being enforced basically know here on LK or Soi Buakhao tonight. Big one!
El Frances
01-02-22, 16:07
All of the 15 positive ladies are in home isolation. Some have already finished their quarantine.
A couple asked to come over to my place while they were in isolation, and I didn't know they were Covid+. I would have been really fucked if I had agreed.
Now, one of the ladies who came to my pool villa last week is sick. She doesn't work bar, she works factory. If she is Covid+, that means Covid is in the factories, which means it's everywhere in Pattaya.Be careful guys. When farang test positive, they send them to hospital for 10 days and it costs up to 150,000 baht. Think twice before getting tested!
Chimpo Chinn
01-02-22, 17:45
Be careful guys. When farang test positive, they send them to hospital for 10 days and it costs up to 150,000 baht. Think twice before getting tested!I read where an old unruly guy who had no symptoms but tested positive was taken by Military to quarantine at a Hotel.
Staff was so concerned they bolted his Glass doors shut. They didn't want him jumping out from 6th floor.
Source old ThaiVisa where we know is all Truth.
There is no training needed to rub a swab around in your nose, squeeze liquid out of a bottle, and see how many lines come up on the paper.Let's say that a proper test needs the swab to go the nostrils to an extent that if self administered one will stop before, which is pretty common and natural. The way the swab takes place is quite significant to the result of the test. Then each one his own.
Banana Boi
01-02-22, 19:08
Murder in Tree town at 10 pm tonight. Not sure of details or if it's accurate. One of my girls just told me.
Arn Poddict
01-02-22, 19:50
Murder in Tree town at 10 pm tonight. Not sure of details or if it's accurate. One of my girls just told me.Sad but true.
https://thepattayanews.com/2022/01/03/one-person-dead-several-injured-and-flee-after-violent-brawl-at-tree-town-market-area-say-pattaya-police/
Christian G
01-02-22, 20:21
Murder in Tree town at 10 pm tonight. Not sure of details or if it's accurate. One of my girls just told me.https://thepattayanews.com/2022/01/03/one-person-dead-several-injured-and-flee-after-violent-brawl-at-tree-town-market-area-say-pattaya-police/?fbclid=IwAR0XBrml6a-2ptH7j56P43nlpc_5rJfO8KXWIdug-JdheV_SGS2qrsrrnvM
Chimpo Chinn
01-02-22, 21:11
I'm surprised there isn't more Crime in Pattaya. Lots of money being lost.
Member #4753
01-02-22, 22:38
https://thepattayanews.com/2022/01/03/one-person-dead-several-injured-and-flee-after-violent-brawl-at-tree-town-market-area-say-pattaya-police/?fbclid=IwAR0XBrml6a-2ptH7j56P43nlpc_5rJfO8KXWIdug-JdheV_SGS2qrsrrnvMFrom the article:
"LT. Col Krikrit stated that the incident hurt the image of Pattaya as a safe family tourism destination".
55555555555.
HorseTrader
01-03-22, 00:28
Let's say that a proper test needs the swab to go the nostrils to an extent that if self administered one will stop before, which is pretty common and natural. The way the swab takes place is quite significant to the result of the test. Then each one his own.Some of the Thai at home tests require a sample from the throat, which might be easier than in the nose.
Apparently, it had to do with a dispute with different business owners within the complex. If that's true, don't be surprised to see the whole thing shut down by the authorities for a cooling off period. They don't need this aggravation on top of Omicron.
https://thepattayanews.com/2022/01/03/one-person-dead-several-injured-and-flee-after-violent-brawl-at-tree-town-market-area-say-pattaya-police/?fbclid=IwAR0XBrml6a-2ptH7j56P43nlpc_5rJfO8KXWIdug-JdheV_SGS2qrsrrnvM
Explorer8939
01-04-22, 08:14
Omicron is coming, so I am going. To Brazil, until this blows over. When Omicron hits Brazil, I will move on to a safer place.
I was going with my ex, but she dropped me in favor of another customer, so I am going with her twin sister. If she flakes, I will go alone, which is probably the best idea.
Axel Heyst
01-04-22, 15:49
Omicron is coming, so I am going. To Brazil, until this blows over. When Omicron hits Brazil, I will move on to a safer place.
I was going with my ex, but she dropped me in favor of another customer, so I am going with her twin sister. If she flakes, I will go alone, which is probably the best idea.Wait a minute; You are planning to go to Brazil and bring your Thai ex or her twin sister with you? That's like taking sand to the beach, unless you are planning to go up North and relax on the Dune Beaches between Recife and Fortaleza. Believe me Exp8939, you will want to sample the SP Boate and Clinca girls as well as the Terma girls in RJ. They are all set to show you a memorable time. My advice is fly to Brazil solo, check out the local girls, and after a month or so invite your ex over if you still want to. 555.
BTW, Omicron is already in Brazil. So What? Most girls are vaxed and you will need to get vaxed too before entry. Even if you subsequently become a crossover statistic, it won't be a big deal. Covid smovid. It is time we learned to live with it.
Explorer8939
01-04-22, 18:35
https://bangkokherald.com/thailand/pattaya/25-of-pattayas-tree-town-bar-area-tests-positive-for-covid-19/
25% positivity for Covid tests in TreeTown.
It is bad on the ground now in Pattaya.
SinfullyKorean
01-05-22, 02:42
Let's say that a proper test needs the swab to go the nostrils to an extent that if self administered one will stop before, which is pretty common and natural. The way the swab takes place is quite significant to the result of the test. Then each one his own.You obviously haven't taken a take home rapid test before. The instructions literally tell you to just swap the inner walls of your nostril.
"Gently insert the SWAB 1/2 to 3/4 of an inch into the nostril, depending on the size of the person's nose. Firmly rub the SWAB in a circular motion around the inside wall of EACH NOSTRIL at least 4 times.
Explorer8939
01-05-22, 04:46
Wait a minute; You are planning to go to Brazil and bring your Thai ex or her twin sister with you? That's like taking sand to the beach, unless you are planning to go up North and relax on the Dune Beaches between Recife and Fortaleza. Believe me Exp8939, you will want to sample the SP Boate and Clinca girls as well as the Terma girls in RJ. They are all set to show you a memorable time. My advice is fly to Brazil solo, check out the local girls, and after a month or so invite your ex over if you still want to. 555.
BTW, Omicron is already in Brazil. So What? Most girls are vaxed and you will need to get vaxed too before entry. Even if you subsequently become a crossover statistic, it won't be a big deal. Covid smovid. It is time we learned to live with it.I have been to Brazil many times, and can communicate in Portuguese. I am more than fully vaxxed.
I know the lady I am taking very well, I am sure there are nights when she won't want to go out, and I can go to a Termas. However, for whatever reason, she is getting horny more frequently, so maybe I might not have as much free time as I hope. Unfortunately, she has zero interest in other ladies, so no threesomes. I don't go to bars in Brazil, but she might want to spend some time in a bar, don't know.
I have a PCR test in 2 days. If I or she is positive, I will delay the trip, but I dread a 2 week quarantine.
Think twice before getting tested!...Thanks for spreading Covid just to save some money! - you can also self isolate in your Condo and doctor/nurse will check every day and bring food..
By the way everyone should have Covid insurance. And if you don't like to pay maybe they give you the chance to quarantine with 1000 Thais / Indians / Arabs in a lovely tent.
You obviously haven't taken a take home rapid test before. The instructions literally tell you to just swap the inner walls of your nostril.
"Gently insert the SWAB 1/2 to 3/4 of an inch into the nostril, depending on the size of the person's nose. Firmly rub the SWAB in a circular motion around the inside wall of EACH NOSTRIL at least 4 times.I don't dispute the instructions but the capacity of each one to follow them. Anything uncomfortable to the individual will see his reaction. If it is done by someone else he can ignore your up (nostril) uncomfortableness and proceed as instructed, no matter what, but if it is DYI I doubt 100% will do it as required. I for one.
When I did my PCR tests, administered by a nurse only once I was ok, the others were a "pain". It seemed never ending and up to my brain. It's a psychological matter, I know.
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