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Coming to Pattaya next week, wanted to check with the knowledgeable folks of this. Forum about the best beer bars to visit. I normally avoid go go s and prefer Soi 6 and beer bars where you can spend some time without getting ripped off. RTFF and saw some action around tree town which is new to me. I believe some good ones near LK metro area.
I do appreciate any inputs from this helpful forum.
WJ.
Member #4753
07-25-22, 09:32
Now in Thailand, Cambodia and Philippines, condoms totally disappear! Girls are more scared of Covid!That is so true.
ThaiGoodTimes
07-25-22, 11:23
There's been talk here lately about the cost of bar-fines, short-time and long-time, so I thought it might be useful to include some prices with photos. These are a small selection of the girls I bar-fined in March. I've blurred their faces to protect their innocence, but hopefully you'll still get an idea. The prices I paid were:
1 (leopard). BF300 LT1500 (beer bar on Tree Town).
2 (dance). BF600 LT2500 (beer bar on Tree Town).
3 (selfie). BF400 LT2500 (beer bar on Tree Town). This is the girl I wrote about in my last post, one of the prettiest girls I saw on the entire trip.
4 (denim shorts). BF300 LT1500 (beer bar on Tree Town).
5 (cruella). BF300 ST1000 (beer bar on Tree Town at closing time)..Protect their innocence?
5555.
What a laugh.
It is to stop guys cutting your lunch.
That's also I guess why you posted girls that are for all intents and purposes "historical".
Less than half of them, if that, would still be in the same area some 3-4 months later as it is now.
And my last comment is also relevant with respect to prices.
Prices 3-4 months ago are now also very much likely historical.
Pattaya was pretty much difficult for tourists then, ThaiPass, testing, etc.
Things are very much different now in respect to ability to get into Pattaya.
So expect pricing to reflect that change, as I very much found it had in Bangkok earlier this month.
ThaiGoodTimes
07-25-22, 11:32
In fact what I like in Pattaya is it's good to go there for 4 days. After it starts to be boring. Yes it's very difficult to find sexy ladies, but if you walk a lot and if have time, you ll always find 1 beauty in a day. Just need to find! And I always go Pattaya because girls never ask condoms!
I'm sure if you're regular in thailand for 10 years, we all fuck the same sexy girls from Soi 6 or Tree Town or WS or anywhereelse in Pattaya.
Pony I met her on Soi 6 in Pasion Bar many years ago and she s now free lance!
Nam who is now in pattaya and I met too in Soi 6 and she changed many times bar.
Jum I met on Tinder then who was in Shark Club and now in Club 4. Jum is very obssessed with money but if you pay 3000 you can fuck her! She go with everybody.
I like to share my girls with my friends!And I'm not having a go at Pattaya, or doing a comparison between places, but.
The OP says here that the girls just stay around Pattaya moving between the bars, and everyone meets them.
That's not what I want, not what I look for.
Give me fresh newbies any day over this.
And newbies in my experience and opinion, pretty much more frequently arrive anywhere else but Pattaya and Bangkok.
Hua Hin, Koh Samui, Chaing Mai, Phuket (away from Bangla), and elsewhere.
I also like to share my newbies with my friends.
Ben Birdwell
07-25-22, 11:38
That no-condom thing will catch up to you someday.
That's not to say that I use condoms 100%. Occasionally, there will be a situation where there isn't a condom available, and I don't want to go to 7/11. But it's a matter of probabilities.
And there are some ladies who I would never fuck without a condom. Or maybe fuck at all, given their choice of customers.Yep. I hardly ever bareback out here and I caught a mean case of the clap from a gogo girl. When I messaged her about it. She was pretty nonchalant about it and says it happens.
JasonSilva
07-25-22, 12:11
So expect pricing to reflect that change, as I very much found it had in Bangkok earlier this month.What are the current ST pricing in Pattaya?
Sir Lancelot
07-25-22, 12:55
Protect their innocence?
5555.
What a laugh.
It is to stop guys cutting your lunch.It was just a tongue-in-cheek expression. I used to include photos of girls with clear face pics but after posting a diary of a few weeks in Angeles, some guy from ISG decided to go in to each of the bars I mentioned and find the girls to tell them I'd written about them. I presume he was trying to be their knight in shining armour. One of the girls messaged me and was fuming. She said she had to leave the bar because she felt so humiliated, despite the fact what I'd written was quite tame (and very complimentary). She said she was embarrassed that all of the other girls in the bar read it but I argued that all of the other girls in the bar do exactly the same every night with other customers. Despite the fact I couldn't understand her logic, I felt bad. I bumped in to another girl the year after in LA Cafe and she was off with me too, despite the fact I'd called her 'Blowjob Queen' and quite possibly helped send a few more customers her way! So now I blur the girls faces.
As for the cutting my lunch comment, I like to find new girls, not go with the same ones over and over.
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Today, I went to Koh Samui with a lady from Pattaya. Unlike last year, lots of bars here are open, but it seems best to bring your own lady.I'm visiting Samui next week. A couple of TF girls have told me many tourists. So does "bring your own lady" mean it is hard to find a girl because there are many tourists now?
Mr Enternational
07-25-22, 14:59
Coming to Pattaya next week, wanted to check with the knowledgeable folks of this. Forum about the best beer bars to visit. Nobody here knows your idea of best. It seems many guys here are complaining that there are no customers (male) in a bar full of chicks. Well for me best is a bar full of chicks with me as the only customer. I would not complain about other guys not being there.
Is there any app that is being used for hunting. Not sure if that's true, can some kind souls share the details. Best, Sandy.
Hahaha. Hopefully not so soon: the.
In fact during my trip, I have been lured into unprotected sex numerous time but thanks to my will, I didn't cave in.
Glad that I bought condoms in large quantities so I didn't run out of them: the.
That no-condom thing will catch up to you someday.
That's not to say that I use condoms 100%. Occasionally, there will be a situation where there isn't a condom available, and I don't want to go to 7/11. But it's a matter of probabilities.
And there are some ladies who I would never fuck without a condom. Or maybe fuck at all, given their choice of customers.
Seems you had amazing time effing nice chicks around: the.
Unfortunately, yes that is the rampant scene in Pattaya. But I didn't let my dick rule over my mind no matter how horny I'm and used protection every time: the.
Not trying to be a saint or something but just a matter of preference.
I think nobody use condoms in Pattaya anymore! Last week I was on 2nd road in a massage place. There was only 1 lady sexy whose name is No ! She proposed me a oil massage for 300 bahts! I didn't know what to expect! We go upstairs, there were 6 beds for massage only separated by curtains. She told me to be totally naked! She started to make a good normal massage! It was really good and relaxing! Then she asked to turn on the back, and she took my cock and told me if I pay 500 more she'll do me a blowjob! Then I told her I prefer fuck her! She told me she can't fuck now because there were too much customers in the room! Like I said, there were only curtains to separate the beds! And she says me she can come my hotel room when she finish work! I said OK, then she started to do me a handjob and I was really horny. Then I stand up and I started to kiss her, and touch her tits and her ass. She told me "Please not here. Later in room" !
I'm sure it works for you every time.
I guess they do use contraceptive pills, at least I've seen pink colored strips in purses of few ladies: the.
I also prefer BBFS.
Do the pattaya girls use birth control? Pill or IUD
HorseTrader
07-25-22, 21:00
Now in Thailand, Cambodia and Philippines, condoms totally disappear!Wow, that must be a new thing in Thailand! It sure wasn't that way in April, not even close.
On a related note, it's disappointing to know that punters do BBFSCIP without some assurance that birth control is in use. It's your child, whether you know they exist or not.
Mr Enternational
07-25-22, 21:39
Wow, that must be a new thing in Thailand! It sure wasn't that way in April, not even close.Nothing new. I have been saying for years on this very board that this is the case. I have a vasectomy, so having a kid is the one thing I do not have to worry about.
I'm sure it works for you every time.
I guess they do use contraceptive pills, at least I've seen pink colored strips in purses of few ladies: the.Morning after pills are cheap that and having tubes tied seem to be primary methods they've told me.
Sir Lancelot
07-25-22, 23:43
Coming to Pattaya next week, wanted to check with the knowledgeable folks of this. Forum about the best beer bars to visit. I normally avoid go go s and prefer Soi 6 and beer bars where you can spend some time without getting ripped off. RTFF and saw some action around tree town which is new to me. I believe some good ones near LK metro area.Annie Jacks is one of your best bets in Soi Buakhao area but if you see a girl you like, establish early if she's bar-fineable as some make enough from lady-drinks they don't go with customers. Rest & Chill and Lai in the corner of Tree Town have pretty girls but the latter has a ludicrous 1000 BF. That's not to say you can't swap Line details with one of their girls and meet during the day though. French Kiss in Tree Town is popular later at night because it has a dance floor and, speaking of dancing, Beach Club in the middle of tree town is a nightclub with freelancers and entry is free. I didn't establish prices because I took a gogo girl there instead. Speaking of gogos, Queen on LK Metro seems to be stocked with the prettiest selection of girls at the moment, Crystal Club is usually a good bet and Sugar Sugar is also worth visiting.
But my recommendation would just be to walk along soi Buakhao and loop around Tree Town until you see a girl you like the look of. Even in the quiet bars you can find a gem. Joy Bar, Blue Sky Bar and Avatar are always worth stopping at for a drink and give an ideal spot to see girls walking along the street.
On a sidenote, if you like soi 6 and not being ripped off, consider exploring the gents clubs. They have identical pricing to soi 6 (300 for a room, 1000 for the girl) and beer is usually cheap with 2-for-1 offers and suchlike. Some of the the gents clubs on Soi Pothole had nice looking girls outside and there are loads of GCs on soi Boomerang.
Wow, that must be a new thing in Thailand! It sure wasn't that way in April, not even close.
On a related note, it's disappointing to know that punters do BBFSCIP without some assurance that birth control is in use. It's your child, whether you know they exist or not.Yes, that "condoms have totally disappeared in Thailand" memo seems not to have landed on the desks of many if not most of the Freelancers and go-go girls I've met and negotiated with right up to yesterday.
I just spent too much time going back and forth with a TF freelancer who begged me to meet her, showed me her bank statement with 0 baht in it, said she had no money and no food.
I charitably offered to meet her for 1500ST or 2500 LT, up to her, but that I did need bb, but had a vasectomy and a recent clean blood check document to show if she wants to see it, etc.
She immediately launched into a hardball quote of 6000 for a 1 hour ST if no condom.
Back and forth, settled on a lower amount and more time but all of that was a waste of time. It turned out this starving, no money (did I mention deaf?) Thai FL was not going to have sex with me without a condom for any amount of money or lifetime financial support.
Next. And next. And next. I guess they just didn't get the memo. Unless their greater fear of Covid manifests itself by their refusing to meet for any sex at all. In which case, condoms might as well disappear in Thailand I suppose.
Very helpful suggestions, I do appreciate your inputs Sir Lance! Khap Kun kha.
Annie Jacks is one of your best bets in Soi Buakhao area but if you see a girl you like, establish early if she's bar-fineable as some make enough from lady-drinks they don't go with customers. Rest & Chill and Lai in the corner of Tree Town have pretty girls but the latter has a ludicrous 1000 BF. That's not to say you can't swap Line details with one of their girls and meet during the day though. French Kiss in Tree Town is popular later at night because it has a dance floor and, speaking of dancing, Beach Club in the middle of tree town is a nightclub with freelancers and entry is free. I didn't establish prices because I took a gogo girl there instead. Speaking of gogos, Queen on LK Metro seems to be stocked with the prettiest selection of girls at the moment, Crystal Club is usually a good bet and Sugar Sugar is also worth visiting.
But my recommendation would just be to walk along soi Buakhao and loop around Tree Town until you see a girl you like the look of. Even in the quiet bars you can find a gem. Joy Bar, Blue Sky Bar and Avatar are always worth stopping at for a drink and give an ideal spot to see girls walking along the street.
On a sidenote, if you like soi 6 and not being ripped off, consider exploring the gents clubs. They have identical pricing to soi 6 (300 for a room, 1000 for the girl) and beer is usually cheap with 2-for-1 offers and suchlike. Some of the the gents clubs on Soi Pothole had nice looking girls outside and there are loads of GCs on soi Boomerang.
Explorer8939
07-26-22, 05:05
I'm visiting Samui next week. A couple of TF girls have told me many tourists. So does "bring your own lady" mean it is hard to find a girl because there are many tourists now?I will answer over in the Koh Samui forum.
Explorer8939
07-26-22, 05:23
Nobody here knows your idea of best. It seems many guys here are complaining that there are no customers (male) in a bar full of chicks. Well for me best is a bar full of chicks with me as the only customer. I would not complain about other guys not being there.Trust me, I am not complaining about the lack of customers here in Pattaya.
I do have ladies complaining to me about Pattaya being very quiet.
The only thing that is different about this Low Season is the proliferation of Indian customers. The ladies are all over the map in regards to Indian customers, but more than in the past, they are saying that some Indian customers are good customers and pay well. There still are complaints about Cheap Charlies, though. Freelancers will get 500 baht quotes from Indian customers, although young Farangs will also offer 500 baht at IBar late at night.
Anyway, my dance card is filled through August 8.
No Low Season will ever compare with the Summer of 2021 as the lowest of low seasons. I posted regularly then about the antics of desperate ladies, as the bars were closed, they had zero money, and the Thai boyfriends were mostly gone home. The ladies had very few, if any customers, and they mostly sat in their room all day. I ended with a harem of 30 ladies, coming 3 shifts per day, every day. Since I couldn't fuck them all, I had to ration myself, but try explaining that to a bargirl who is drunk and hasn't been laid for a month. So I posted, and most people didn't believe my stories.
And then bars started opening as restaurants last September, and I was slowly deserted by my harem.
Now they are again short of customers, and I am bombarded with messages from ladies. But it's not the same as last year. Now they are motivated by the need to make money to keep their Thai boyfriend happy.
Mr Enternational
07-26-22, 07:15
I charitably offered to meet her for 1500ST or 2500 LT, up to her, but that I did need bb, but had a vasectomy and a recent clean blood check document to show if she wants to see it, etc.
She immediately launched into a hardball quote of 6000 for a 1 hour ST if no condom.Keep telling you that it is something that is just done, not something that is negotiated. And you have explained your reason for negotiating it before. But not once have I told a chick that I wanted that but it always happens. Actually I have never told them that I want anything in particular and stuff just happens. The extent of my negotiation is only on the price and I have not been disappointed yet. YMMV though I guess.
Yes, that "condoms have totally disappeared in Thailand" memo seems not to have landed on the desks of many if not most of the Freelancers and go-go girls I've met and negotiated with right up to yesterday.The same here, most but not all girls insisted on a condom.
Explorer8939
07-26-22, 08:16
For you guys who frequent gogo bars and Soi 6, try some of the Gentlemen's clubs springing up on Soi Chaiyapoon, Soi Boomerang or Soi Bongkot. These are known as closed bars. You can have a lot of fun for small amounts of money.
Explorer8939
07-26-22, 09:12
The same here, most but not all girls insisted on a condom.If you knew the sexual histories of the ladies, you might not fuck them even with a condom.
I was drinking with one lady who told me she went with 6 Indian men in one session. Talk about killing the vibe.
Explorer8939
07-26-22, 11:47
Tomorrow night, I have 2 ladies coming to my condo who specifically requested that each other come. Their usual MO when they drink tequila is to get shitfaced drunk and fuck each other. No idea what they will do tomorrow.
Fortunately, they do pay some attention to me in the middle of their groping and licking.
I have the opinion that lady-lady relations in Thailand are looked down upon. Nobody minds if a lady goes with a Tomboy, but if a lady goes with another lady, that's a no-no.
If you knew the sexual histories of the ladies, you might not fuck them even with a condom.
I was drinking with one lady who told me she went with 6 Indian men in one session. Talk about killing the vibe.That is fucking disgusting. I presume she was well paid. I sessioned with a beautiful girl in Puerto Vallarta. She confided in me that she spent 3-4 days at a rental beach house with several other girls. The hosts were 6 Persians from LA. Basically 24/7 fucking. I wish she didn't tell me that!
How would you rate her physical appearance between 0 and 10?
PussyTamer
07-26-22, 14:19
Sorry if it has been already asked. Usually the girls standing outside of the gogo bars are the prettiest, or at the least they are meant to be to attract more customer. But I've notice that many, if not most, are not available for either ST and LT. Is there any workaround on how to get or at least negotiate with them?
Keep telling you that it is something that is just done, not something that is negotiated. And you have explained your reason for negotiating it before. But not once have I told a chick that I wanted that but it always happens. Actually I have never told them that I want anything in particular and stuff just happens. The extent of my negotiation is only on the price and I have not been disappointed yet. YMMV though I guess.Yes, I still do the "go with the flow" thing every now and then and used to do it a lot here years ago.
Over the past 10 years my general success rate for it "just happening" with the girls I choose runs at about 25% in Bangkok and 0% in Pattaya. That is way too low a success rate to be paying money for what will then turn out to be a likely middling BBBJCIM at best and no sex at all at worst. The math simply does not support the idea. So I negotiate upfront the vast majority of the time.
But I did get a ton of impressive Safety First lectures before they left. Even from some of those 25% success rate girls in Bangkok right before they grudgingly agreed to bareback for more money.
Which, of course, I always find to be highly erotic and stimulating foreplay and not the least bit of a buzzkill.
Uh. Joke.
Thaifriendly, Tinder and Line works perfect.
Is there any app that is being used for hunting. Not sure if that's true, can some kind souls share the details. Best, Sandy.
OMG. Hilarious and Unimaginable.
If you knew the sexual histories of the ladies, you might not fuck them even with a condom.
I was drinking with one lady who told me she went with 6 Indian men in one session. Talk about killing the vibe.
Could you please name some of them?
I only know of BadaBing, Pirates which is next to BadaBing and Whisper Lounge located at Rungland.
For you guys who frequent gogo bars and Soi 6, try some of the Gentlemen's clubs springing up on Soi Chaiyapoon, Soi Boomerang or Soi Bongkot. These are known as closed bars. You can have a lot of fun for small amounts of money.
Yeah, one of the ladies I spent time with, also said that she had her tubes tied and insisted me to go BB and plant my seed into her. LOL.
I politely declined and chose the protected way.
Morning after pills are cheap that and having tubes tied seem to be primary methods they've told me.
SeekingHead
07-26-22, 19:05
If you knew the sexual histories of the ladies, you might not fuck them even with a condom.
I was drinking with one lady who told me she went with 6 Indian men in one session. Talk about killing the vibe.Check please!
Check please!I don't believe that a lady is proud to say she fuck bb with 6 indians men! First Thai ladies hate indian men! They never go with. The only ladies who go with these men are old ladies, not in good health! But you ll never see a young sexy lady from a beer bar or even a gogo going with an idian!
If you knew the sexual histories of the ladies, you might not fuck them even with a condom.
I was drinking with one lady who told me she went with 6 Indian men in one session. Talk about killing the vibe.It would of not been so bad if you weren't eating her out at the same time! Talk about bad timing!
Explorer8939
07-27-22, 03:03
That is fucking disgusting. I presume she was well paid. I sessioned with a beautiful girl in Puerto Vallarta. She confided in me that she spent 3-4 days at a rental beach house with several other girls. The hosts were 6 Persians from LA. Basically 24/7 fucking. I wish she didn't tell me that!
How would you rate her physical appearance between 0 and 10?This lady's face is 4, small tits, but a great ass.
Only 24 years old.
Nope, I didn't fuck her. Plus, she told me that she didn't like sex. That's fairly common for younger ladies who work Soi 6, which was her first job in Pattaya.
She was quite happy about going with 6 Indian men, 1000 baht per man, and they finished quickly.
Explorer8939
07-27-22, 03:05
Could you please name some of them?
I only know of BadaBing, Pirates which is next to BadaBing and Whisper Lounge located at Rungland.Soi Chaiyapoon has Maggie Mays, soi Boomerang and Bongkot have many.
There used to be some on Soi Lengkee.
You go in, pick a lady, and up to you what happens.
Explorer8939
07-27-22, 03:08
Sorry if it has been already asked. Usually the girls standing outside of the gogo bars are the prettiest, or at the least they are meant to be to attract more customer. But I've notice that many, if not most, are not available for either ST and LT. Is there any workaround on how to get or at least negotiate with them?You can usually buy a drink for a promotion lady. No guarantees whether she will go to the hotel with you.
Sometimes promotion ladies take the job because its the only bar job their Thai boyfriends will let them do. The Thai boyfriend will often hang around nearby, maybe playing pool, watching the lady.
If you knew the sexual histories of the ladies, you might not fuck them even with a condom.
I was drinking with one lady who told me she went with 6 Indian men in one session. Talk about killing the vibe.I remember the advice I got before my first trip to China many years ago. "If your offered food then take a bite. If you like it, eat more. If you don't like it you are not required to eat anymore. But whatever you do, DON'T ASK!" That means don't ask what it is. Women can be like that. 555.
Explorer8939
07-27-22, 04:13
I remember the advice I got before my first trip to China many years ago. "If your offered food then take a bite. If you like it, eat more. If you don't like it you are not required to eat anymore. But whatever you do, DON'T ASK!" That means don't ask what it is. Women can be like that. 555.Good advice for the no-condom guys.
Chimpo Chinn
07-27-22, 06:54
I don't believe that a lady is proud to say she fuck bb with 6 indians men! First Thai ladies hate indian men! They never go with. The only ladies who go with these men are old ladies, not in good health! But you ll never see a young sexy lady from a beer bar or even a gogo going with an idian!On recent trip end last week.
Rainbow 5 customers of all race creeds and colors.
The middle east and Indians were Barfining. They do however go for the Rough looking ones, tattoos silicones, older, less than attractive.
Myth debunked.
Explorer8939
07-27-22, 07:20
The 3 day rule exists for a reason. Most bargirl performance drops considerably by day 3 of a LT barfine. The symptoms:
They don't want to fuck much, if at all, by day 3. Their behavior ranges from mild avoidance to outright refusal or use of a pretext.
They view you as an ATM:
"buy me a lottery ticket".
"buy a drink for this bargirl I met 5 minutes ago".
Or the dreaded 1,000 baht trip to 7/11.
The last day / night, they often just play telephone, talking with their boyfriend, or any number of friends and family.
In other words, as time passes, their performance declines.
Mr Enternational
07-27-22, 07:21
I don't believe that a lady is proud to say she fuck bb with 6 indians men! First Thai ladies hate indian men! They never go with. The only ladies who go with these men are old ladies, not in good health! But you ll never see a young sexy lady from a beer bar or even a gogo going with an idian!Spoken just like a guy that has never been to any of the several Indian discos on Walking Street. May not see beer bar or gogo girls with them, but there are tons of young sexy ladies filling those discos. Maybe they did not get the word that they are supposed to hate Indian men. Last I check there were no Indian men in Bamboo.
MartinFlevo
07-27-22, 09:22
The same here, most but not all girls insisted on a condom.I was in Pattaya a few weeks back. 3 weeks. Only 2 ladies insisted on condom.
Explorer8939
07-27-22, 12:25
I don't believe that a lady is proud to say she fuck bb with 6 indians men! First Thai ladies hate indian men! They never go with. The only ladies who go with these men are old ladies, not in good health! But you ll never see a young sexy lady from a beer bar or even a gogo going with an idian!Your information is outdated. It was true before Covid, but things have changed.
Now Indian men represent 50% of Walking Street customers.
Many young Thai ladies go with Indian men.
That isn't to say that there are no Cheap Charlie Indians, but they are being crowded out by Indians who spend money.
Explorer8939
07-27-22, 12:26
It would of not been so bad if you weren't eating her out at the same time! Talk about bad timing!I dodged a bullet on that one.
Mongering1
07-27-22, 14:05
I'll be arriving in Pattaya in a couple weeks and staying for a few weeks. I have stayed at Flipper Lodge previously and it was just fine, but I'm open for recommendations.
My priorities this trip are massage of all types including soapies, BBBJCIM, swimming pools and good foods.
The things I'd like to do include my first time SCUBA diving, renting an ebike to explore and to expand on my personal meditation.
Thank you all for the recent posts with some price updates as far as the bars, gogos and massage.
Oh, I land in Bangkok at 11:30 pm. I've never stayed there at all, but I do read that thread. I'm open for suggestions on how to spend that first evening or else I'll just take a taxi straight to Pattaya.
Explorer8939
07-27-22, 14:56
Spoken just like a guy that has never been to any of the several Indian discos on Walking Street. May not see beer bar or gogo girls with them, but there are tons of young sexy ladies filling those discos. Maybe they did not get the word that they are supposed to hate Indian men. Last I check there were no Indian men in Bamboo.Last I heard, Bamboo Bar is closed.
ZenMinded1
07-27-22, 15:11
I don't believe that a lady is proud to say she fuck bb with 6 indians men! First Thai ladies hate indian men! They never go with. The only ladies who go with these men are old ladies, not in good health! But you ll never see a young sexy lady from a beer bar or even a gogo going with an idian!So many guys don't get it due to lack of reference info. For a country which invented the Kama Sutra, India is so sexually opressed that guys feel privileged just to see a naked titty. Bring that closer to a guy's dick and he's done in 30 seconds. In Dubai all Indians get discounts from streetwalkers because they know it's a quick job.
PussyTamer
07-27-22, 15:34
You can usually buy a drink for a promotion lady. No guarantees whether she will go to the hotel with you.
Sometimes promotion ladies take the job because its the only bar job their Thai boyfriends will let them do. The Thai boyfriend will often hang around nearby, maybe playing pool, watching the lady.Thanks for the tips, I will try to offer a drink and go straight to the question, hopefully it will work.
I don't believe that a lady is proud to say she fuck bb with 6 indians men! First Thai ladies hate indian men! They never go with. The only ladies who go with these men are old ladies, not in good health! But you ll never see a young sexy lady from a beer bar or even a gogo going with an idian!You must be a lucky man. Half of the women I have been with end up telling me their life stories after a couple of drinks. Including a lot of crap I don't want to hear. The longer a woman is in the sex business the less she cares about what her client looks like and only worries about how much money they have.
I second you. I was baffled to see super hot chicks go with fat-ass, ugly uncle types men.
Since then my belief on "Money can buy anything" got stronger: the.
Your information is outdated. It was true before Covid, but things have changed.
Now Indian men represent 50% of Walking Street customers.
Many young Thai ladies go with Indian men.
That isn't to say that there are no Cheap Charlie Indians, but they are being crowded out by Indians who spend money.
Mr Enternational
07-27-22, 22:36
The 3 day rule exists for a reason. Most bargirl performance drops considerably by day 3 of a LT barfine. The symptoms:
They don't want to fuck much, if at all, by day 3. And guess what. I am not trying to fuck the same chick much, if at all, after 3 days, so my performance would be dropping as well. This pot is not about to call a kettle black.
Mr Enternational
07-27-22, 22:41
I'll be arriving in Pattaya in a couple weeks and staying for a few weeks. I have stayed at Flipper Lodge previously and it was just fine, but I'm open for recommendations.I would change and look for a place on Soi Buakhao. That Flipper Lodge area ain't what it used to be. I had a buddy that stayed at Sunshine a few weeks back. He figured the area would be the same as before. Nope. It is pretty much deserted.
Mr Enternational
07-27-22, 22:54
The things I'd like to do include my first time SCUBA diving, I certainly would not recommend doing your first time (don't know if you are getting the Open Water certification or just doing a discovery dive) in Pattaya unless they will be taking you out to Sattahip to teach you. The last time I got in the water at Pattaya Beach was 11 years ago getting my nitrox certification. You could not see your own hand in front of your face. We went down and came right back up. 12 years ago I got my Advanced in Pattaya and I think we did everything in Sattahip for those 2 or 3 days.
Sir Lancelot
07-27-22, 23:58
That isn't to say that there are no Cheap Charlie Indians, but they are being crowded out by Indians who spend money.I agree. I remember sitting outside Alcatraz about ten years ago (the bar on Walking Street, not the prison) and being shocked when two Indian customers got turned away by security who pointed at a sign on the door that said 'No Indians'. My friend told me it was because Indian customers had a reputation for not buying drinks and the girls would complain they'd go with Indian customers and their friends would be waiting in the room expecting a freebie. I can also remember being in Sabai Dee and, no joke, a minibus-load of about ten Indian guys arrived and one of them tried to negotiate a hefty group discount with the papasan. He didn't get very far.
But India has the fastest growing economy in the world and there are a lot of very rich Indian people.
Earlier this year I saw six girls all sat around an Indian man in Moonlight, having shots from a bottle of sang som he'd bought. Without wanting to be unkind I think it's fair to say he fell from the ugly tree and hit every branch on his way down. He was fat, sweaty and had some kind of deformity with his mouth. Ten years ago, he would have been invisible to the girls but here he was splashing the cash. He may as well have been Brad Pitt.
I was baffled to see super hot chicks go with fat-ass, ugly uncle types men.The biggest aphrodisiac for Thai bar girls is money.
Miss MaryHinge
07-28-22, 10:05
Your information is outdated. It was true before Covid, but things have changed.
Now Indian men represent 50% of Walking Street customers.
Many young Thai ladies go with Indian men.
That isn't to say that there are no Cheap Charlie Indians, but they are being crowded out by Indians who spend money.Just watching any selection of those walking videos on youtube the difference from pre-covid is noticeable- the great majority are Indians.
Explorer8939
07-28-22, 11:18
After last night with 2 ladies rolling around the bed, I just had one lady come over for drinks today, my regular massage lady. After polishing off 3 bottles of wine, she started massaging my nether regions, and we were soon on the bed.
She is 42, but well proportioned, and was horny as can be, or a very good faker. And sweaty. Really sweaty, despite the aircon.
No BJ though, which is unusual for a massage lady.
Afterwards, I was ready to put her in my regular rotation, but she asked for 500 baht extra.
Now she is gone, and I have a short time to get ready for the lady coming tonight.
Returning to Pattaya after a 4 yr absence and staying in the middle of Soi Bukhao.
4 years ago the treetown area was an empty field with one VW microbus parked serving cocktails.
The transformation is nothing short of a miracle!
1000's of ladies to choose from!
The big downer for me is bars insisting on music at ear bursting levels. Impossible to talk to provider or negotiate easily!
I measured the volume in several bars at 105 dB with the live bands even louder.
Memo to bar owners. More noise does not make your bar more attractive.
Had three providers over 4 days, average BF 300-400,1500 LT, 1000ST and 1000 LT.
JasonSilva
07-28-22, 17:23
India is a 4500 year old country built on Hinduism. The society was extremely open sexually as you can see from Kamasutra and ancient sculptures. The leader of the dynasty / family used to be elderly women and the system was matriarchal. Unfortunately the 400 years of Islamic invasion from 12th to 16th Century (the dark ages of India) changed the social fabric of society. The regression and the oppression comes from that. India need about 3 generations (around 100 years) to get rid of it.
So many guys don't get it due to lack of reference info. For a country which invented the Kama Sutra, India is so sexually opressed that guys feel privileged just to see a naked titty. Bring that closer to a guy's dick and he's done in 30 seconds. In Dubai all Indians get discounts from streetwalkers because they know it's a quick job.
Chimpo Chinn
07-28-22, 19:53
I agree. I remember sitting outside Alcatraz about ten years ago (the bar on Walking Street, not the prison) and being shocked when two Indian customers got turned away by security who pointed at a sign on the door that said 'No Indians'. My friend told me it was because Indian customers had a reputation for not buying drinks and the girls would complain they'd go with Indian customers and their friends would be waiting in the room expecting a freebie. I can also remember being in Sabai Dee and, no joke, a minibus-load of about ten Indian guys arrived and one of them tried to negotiate a hefty group discount with the papasan. He didn't get very far.
But India has the fastest growing economy in the world and there are a lot of very rich Indian people.
Earlier this year I saw six girls all sat around an Indian man in Moonlight, having shots from a bottle of sang som he'd bought. Without wanting to be unkind I think it's fair to say he fell from the ugly tree and hit every branch on his way down. He was fat, sweaty and had some kind of deformity with his mouth. Ten years ago, he would have been invisible to the girls but here he was splashing the cash. He may as well have been Brad Pitt.
The biggest aphrodisiac for Thai bar girls is money.For the life of me. Rich Indians think Walking Street Pattay is the place to be?
Don't they research before traveling.
Mongerdude247
07-29-22, 02:44
Hey Gents,
Me and 2 close friends are planning a stag trip for Nov this year. It'll be our first time in Thailand. We're thinking of doing 5 days in Pattaya and 4 Days in Bangkok. The main objective is drinks, ladies, A bit of honest sight seeing with some are&are in between. Wondering if this is a good time split for the cities or if I should adjust our time in one of the locations. Thoughts?
Thanks in advance.
Last I heard, Bamboo Bar is closed.Bamboo hasn't been open for 2. 5 years!
Returning to Pattaya after a 4 yr absence and staying in the middle of Soi Bukhao.
4 years ago the treetown area was an empty field with one VW microbus parked serving cocktails.
The transformation is nothing short of a miracle!
1000's of ladies to choose from!
Had three providers over 4 days, average BF 300-400,1500 LT, 1000ST and 1000 LT.This sounds very promising indeed. Never heard of Treetown, is this where the outdoor clothing market was or is just as the road esses towards the end of Soi Boukhow?
Is this a positive or negative development in your opinion if you say there are many girls then this appears very good indeed.
MartinFlevo
07-29-22, 08:24
This sounds very promising indeed. Never heard of Treetown, is this where the outdoor clothing market was or is just as the road esses towards the end of Soi Boukhow?
TreeTown is where soi meda in Thailand was. https://www.google.nl/maps/place/Tree+Town+NightMarket / at 12.9314377,100.8852211,17.85 z / data=!4 m5!3 m4!1 s0 x31029608 da106 a2 f:0 xe940362 a74 cbe447!8 m2!3 d12.9310232!4 d100.8859312.
Hey Guy's,
Back in Pattaya after a long absence. I've gotten lazy in my old age (60) and especially spoiled after living in Colombia.
Any recommendations on walk in full service places? Prefer day time or early evening. Pick a girl have some fun and pay for damages.
Colombia will ruin you for that. Beautiful sweet woman, walk in get a presentation, pick one go have fun for as long as you want and prices are on the board. Inexpensive to begin with and discounted the longer you stay. What a country. LOL.
Prefer easy over games and bar fines and bringing someone back to my room.
Thanks for any advice.
Cheers.
Sky.
If you knew the sexual histories of the ladies, you might not fuck them even with a condom.
I was drinking with one lady who told me she went with 6 Indian men in one session. Talk about killing the vibe.To make things worse I am told that Indians have very big dicks.
Yep. I hardly ever bareback out here and I caught a mean case of the clap from a gogo girl. When I messaged her about it. She was pretty nonchalant about it and says it happens.Fortunately for you it was not of the antibiotic resistant variety. That can keep you off poontang for weeks.
Chimpo Chinn
07-29-22, 16:01
This sounds very promising indeed. Never heard of Treetown, is this where the outdoor clothing market was or is just as the road esses towards the end of Soi Boukhow?
Is this a positive or negative development in your opinion if you say there are many girls then this appears very good indeed.Never been to treetown either.
From research. You pick up a girl on Beach Road and take her to treetown. You don't find girls at Treetown.
It's just Benches. More a place for Bank Tellers, Thai people.
Chimpo Chinn
07-29-22, 17:55
Hansum Korean Man and his Bargirl.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1jYrb9dSEBA
Enjoy!
I like the Girl. Guess which one. Not a stunner but very acceptable.
MartinFlevo
07-29-22, 19:34
Never been to treetown either.
You don't find girls at Treetown.
It's just Benches. More a place for Bank Tellers, Thai people.This is wrong on so many levels.
TreeTown is a you shaped block with tons of bars AND girls.
Explorer8939
07-30-22, 01:40
Never been to treetown either.
From research. You pick up a girl on Beach Road and take her to treetown. You don't find girls at Treetown.
It's just Benches. More a place for Bank Tellers, Thai people.There are about 40 bars in TreeTown. Some of them have chairs.
Explorer8939
07-30-22, 02:43
One downside of going with so many ladies is I cannot cum, at least not quickly. Strangely, if its ST, I can finish in 5 minutes, but if I have done a string of ladies, and now I am doing LT with a lady I know, I can go an hour+ and not finish.
Two nights ago, I was with a lady who was determined to make me cum, after an hour I couldn't go any more, but she wouldn't take no for an answer. So, I faked it, and ran to the shower.
Last night, with another lady, the same. But after an hour of mutual pounding, she started to bite my balls. Painfully.
So, tonight's lady may be out of luck.
It's the morning after, and last night's lady has transformed from sex fiend to shy bar manager. All business.
This is wrong on so many levels.
TreeTown is a you shaped block with tons of bars AND girls.Thankyou for backing me up MartinFlevo.
Yes, there are hundreds of bars and possibly a 1000 or more girls working in this area.
It is about 150 m North of Soi LK Metro. You also have 50 or more bars and go-go's in that area with another 500 or so girls very eager to find a man.
If you can't score here then you never will!
The key word is negotiate, first quotes are often in the 3 k range! 1000 - 1500 is achievable.
So in answer to my question and the silliness by some. Research suggests Treetown appears to be a new name for the area, bars have been there many years, however the they have had a facelift with additional bars added through to Soi Bukhou. I have walked through this bar area on many occasions from 2nd road through to Soi Bukhou. Youtube it.
Explorer8939
07-30-22, 12:14
So in answer to my question and the silliness by some. Research suggests Treetown appears to be a new name for the area, bars have been there many years, however the they have had a facelift with additional bars added through to Soi Bukhou. I have walked through this bar area on many occasions from 2nd road through to Soi Bukhou. Youtube it.Just before Covid, some bars were installed in what was a giant parking lot. Not many customers, though. What jump started the area was the authorities allowing people to go 7/11 and then sit around and drink in the TreeTown area. People would go to an outdoor restaurant and order a Coke, filling the glass with illicit whiskey. Working ladies would do the same, and then restaurants were allowed to sell alcohol, and things took off.
Christian G
07-30-22, 12:17
Hey Guy's,
Back in Pattaya after a long absence. I've gotten lazy in my old age (60) and especially spoiled after living in Colombia.
Any recommendations on walk in full service places? Prefer day time or early evening. Pick a girl have some fun and pay for damages.
Prefer easy over games and bar fines and bringing someone back to my room.
Soi 6, Soi Boomerang, Soi Chaiyapoon, Soi Honey, Soi Bongkoch 8, Body Massages, Kinnaree in Pratamnak and I'm sure I'm forget many others day time clubs that are scattered around the town.
ThaiGoodTimes
07-30-22, 12:41
Hansum Korean Man and his Bargirl.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1jYrb9dSEBA
Enjoy!
I like the Girl. Guess which one. Not a stunner but very acceptable.For someone who talks so often about Phuket.
Why did you out a clip of Bangla Road in the Bangkok forum?
JasonSilva
07-30-22, 18:06
One downside of going with so many ladies is I cannot cum, at least not quickly. Strangely, if its ST, I can finish in 5 minutes, but if I have done a string of ladies, and now I am doing LT with a lady I know, I can go an hour+ and not finish.
Two nights ago, I was with a lady who was determined to make me cum, after an hour I couldn't go any more, but she wouldn't take no for an answer. So, I faked it, and ran to the shower.
Last night, with another lady, the same. But after an hour of mutual pounding, she started to bite my balls. Painfully.
So, tonight's lady may be out of luck.
It's the morning after, and last night's lady has transformed from sex fiend to shy bar manager. All business.Do you live in Pattaya permanently? Just curious, don't you lose interest in sex after few days? You seems to be having daily sex for months which is surprising.
Chimpo Chinn
07-31-22, 00:39
For someone who talks so often about Phuket.
Why did you out a clip of Bangla Road in the Bangkok forum?Clip more about what kind of girl I like.
Photo after photo that shows up here of real girls are God awfully awful.
People often mention you go to Thailand for that and pay 3,000 fee Plus fine of the bar etc.
I say No Way Jose.
Hot uns are out there.
The one I like nice face, small boobies, nice personality. Only drawback was back tattoo.
Chimpo Chinn
07-31-22, 00:41
P.S. I know Explorer has huge numbers but for the life of me I can't get excited about Factory Workers.
Got to look like most Construction Workers.
Explorer8939
07-31-22, 02:06
Do you live in Pattaya permanently? Just curious, don't you lose interest in sex after few days? You seems to be having daily sex for months which is surprising.Yes, I live in Pattaya permanently.
No, I don't have sex every day. I have one regular lady who doesn't like sex, but she goes with me a lot.
Last summer, I was having 30 ladies a week come over to my place. I got a lot of blow jobs, and there was lots of hanky panky, but I probably only had full intercourse twice a week. I had to ration myself or die. So, sometimes horny drunk ladies would start a BJ, and then try to hop on for a fuck, and I would have to push them off.
This week, I went with a lady to Koh Samui for 3 days. We only fucked the first 2 days. Then I had a night in Pattaya with a lady who wanted to fuck all night. Then a night in Bangkok with another horny lady. Then nothing last night here in Udon Thani.
I have 3 more nights with this lady, and then 2 nights with 2 ladies in Singapore (I will probably fuck one per night). Then a night in Bangkok with a horny 3 holes. Then a night in rural Isaan with the lady I am with now, except a mutual friend will come to our room, the friend loves to get drunk and grab ass of my current lady (actually, she likes to get finger fucked by another lady, but that's another story). I will sleep with the friend, she will fuck, but not too much. Then, a last night in Isaan with the 3 holes, and then back to Pattaya.
This takes lots of planning.
Explorer8939
07-31-22, 02:07
This is for the "Walking Street is dead" guys.
MartinFlevo
07-31-22, 07:50
This is for the "Walking Street is dead" guys.1. Airport is closed (on the left).
2. Street traffic doesn't say anything about how busy it is INSIDE bars / gogos.
3. Photo was this weekend. Thai holiday weekend.
So this photo doesn't "proof" its busy and back to pre-covid.
Explorer8939
07-31-22, 11:00
P.S. I know Explorer has huge numbers but for the life of me I can't get excited about Factory Workers.
Got to look like most Construction Workers.I only have gone with a couple of factory workers, one was just 3 or 4 times, the other maybe once a year. Of course, I can't tell you how many bar girls used to work factory.
Having said that, some factory workers are hot, they just happen to be in a committed relationship with some Thai guy and can't go with customers.
People often mention you go to Thailand for that and pay 3,000 fee Plus fine of the bar etc.
I say No Way Jose.
Hot uns are out there.
The one I like nice face, small boobies, nice personality. Only drawback was back tattoo.You think that girl asks more than 3000 baht?
SoberHans69
07-31-22, 15:11
Has anyone tried getting one of those medical certificates to buy the high THC weed in Pattaya yet?
Officially it's supposed to take 15 days to receive but wondering if anyone's found a way around it.
PM me please if you don't want to post the info on here.
I don't smoke here at home but would be nice to enjoy on holiday but I'm only there for just over two weeks.
Chimpo Chinn
07-31-22, 16:40
This is for the "Walking Street is dead" guys.A new way to explain.
Boarded up shops everywhere contradicts your point.
Pre Corona shops were going out of Buznit.
I Love Low Lovel Indians but Pattaya business owners don't.
1. Airport is closed (on the left).
2. Street traffic doesn't say anything about how busy it is INSIDE bars / gogos.
3. Photo was this weekend. Thai holiday weekend.
So this photo doesn't "proof" its busy and back to pre-covid.Pattaya not back to Pre-covid by any means. I'm having fun and plenty busy and plenty of girls Gogos are hopping. Hopefully in Phuket soon.
Fawn The Guyver
07-31-22, 20:20
I come next week finaly back to Pattaya, I'm not sure now what to belive because of masks, can please someone tell me where you have to wear a mask and where not.
Thanks a lot.
Mr Enternational
07-31-22, 20:32
I come next week finaly back to Pattaya, I'm not sure now what to belive because of masks, can please someone tell me where you have to wear a mask and where not.Only place I wore a mask was immigration in Jomtien and the airport.
Mr Enternational
07-31-22, 20:34
Street traffic doesn't say anything about how busy it is INSIDE bars / gogos.So you want more men to be inside the bars and gogos?
Explorer8939
08-01-22, 01:08
Has anyone tried getting one of those medical certificates to buy the high THC weed in Pattaya yet?
Officially it's supposed to take 15 days to receive but wondering if anyone's found a way around it.
PM me please if you don't want to post the info on here.
I don't smoke here at home but would be nice to enjoy on holiday but I'm only there for just over two weeks.The legal limit for THC content is 0. 2%, ie only hemp is legal. Up to you if you want to smoke hemp.
Explorer8939
08-01-22, 01:09
I come next week finaly back to Pattaya, I'm not sure now what to belive because of masks, can please someone tell me where you have to wear a mask and where not.
Thanks a lot.It's hit and miss. I only wear a mask in certain places indoors, like airports. So I carry around one, but rarely wear it in Pattaya.
Explorer8939
08-01-22, 01:11
A new way to explain.
Boarded up shops everywhere contradicts your point.
Pre Corona shops were going out of Buznit.
I Love Low Lovel Indians but Pattaya business owners don't.Why should a monger care if some shops are still closed? There are 10,000 ladies in Pattaya waiting for a customer.
MartinFlevo
08-01-22, 06:58
So you want more men to be inside the bars and gogos?An empty gogobar has no vibe. Simple. Just bored looking woman.
So yeah I don't mind if there are other costumers.
IBar / Myst without guys? Also just attracks the old&ugly onces. My trip in June / July? IBar was filled with 40+ year old freelancers. thats the effect.
SoberHans69
08-01-22, 16:51
The legal limit for THC content is 0. 2%, ie only hemp is legal. Up to you if you want to smoke hemp.Thank you for your reply.
I thought I had they had just changed it in June or July, where stronger strains can be sold but only to people with medical certificates.
I must have got confused sorry.
Chimpo Chinn
08-01-22, 17:02
Why should a monger care if some shops are still closed? There are 10,000 ladies in Pattaya waiting for a customer.10,000 Bargirls Stats:
Average age 45.
Avg weight 169 lbs.
Avg number of children 2.3.
You sir are a man of Quantity.
Some of us prefer Qualitee.
Kalle Kula
08-01-22, 21:05
This is for the "Walking Street is dead" guys.Pornstar Polly Pons (Poopea) has published photos from her current vacation in Thailand on Twitter.
She seems to have visited Sapphire, Republic and Ibar / Insomnia.
She has also posted pictures and video clips of her fucking a thai fan on her onlyfans.
Mr Enternational
08-02-22, 00:46
I thought I had they had just changed it in June or July, where stronger strains can be sold but only to people with medical certificates.The stuff is everywhere. They are selling it at tables on Walking Street. They are selling tall ass plants at the market. Nobody has said anything about any certificates. You just go up to whoever or go into a shop and buy it. I can't say anything to the strength of any of it. Soapy chick said she bought this for 200 baht though.
Explorer8939
08-02-22, 04:31
Thank you for your reply.
I thought I had they had just changed it in June or July, where stronger strains can be sold but only to people with medical certificates.
I must have got confused sorry.In June, they made hemp legal.
The stuff being sold illegally will soon come to an end. The police don't want to crack down now, but soon they will.
LittleBigMan
08-02-22, 05:23
The stuff is everywhere. They are selling it at tables on Walking Street. They are selling tall ass plants at the market. Nobody has said anything about any certificates. You just go up to whoever or go into a shop and buy it. I can't say anything to the strength of any of it. Soapy chick said she bought this for 200 baht though.They got a Kiosk in the Nana Hotel parking lot right outside Hooters selling the stuff. Like you said everywhere!
Lucky guy. She's great.
Pornstar Polly Pons (Poopea) has published photos from her current vacation in Thailand on Twitter.
She seems to have visited Sapphire, Republic and Ibar / Insomnia.
She has also posted pictures and video clips of her fucking a thai fan on her onlyfans.
Sir Lancelot
08-02-22, 12:34
10,000 Bargirls Stats:
Average age 45.
Avg weight 169 lbs.
Avg number of children 2.3.
You sir are a man of Quantity.
Some of us prefer Qualitee.As a matter of interest I clicked on the link you shared recently which showed a Youtube video taken in Phuket. You repeatedly tell us how few attractive girls there are in Pattaya, so naturally I was very excited to see the kind of supermodels it must take to catch the eye of a discerning playboy like yourself. Imagine my surprise when the video showed exactly the kind of girls you can find every afternoon on soi 6.
Explorer8939
08-02-22, 12:48
As a matter of interest I clicked on the link you shared recently which showed a Youtube video taken in Phuket. You repeatedly tell us how few attractive girls there are in Pattaya, so naturally I was very excited to see the kind of supermodels it must take to catch the eye of a discerning playboy like yourself. Imagine my surprise when the video showed exactly the kind of girls you can find every afternoon on soi 6.I go to Phuket a lot. For me, th3 difference between Phuket and Pattaya ladies is price. Otherwise, same same.
Christian G
08-02-22, 16:38
Pornstar Polly Pons (Poopea) has published photos from her current vacation in Thailand on Twitter.
Yes, I saw her last month walking hand in hand with a farang guy in Walking street.
SoberHans69
08-02-22, 17:37
The stuff is everywhere. They are selling it at tables on Walking Street. They are selling tall ass plants at the market. Nobody has said anything about any certificates. You just go up to whoever or go into a shop and buy it. I can't say anything to the strength of any of it. Soapy chick said she bought this for 200 baht though.Nice one, thanks. I'll see what I can get when I get there.
Kalle Kula
08-02-22, 17:58
Lucky guy. She's great.She really is. I had arranged for an outcall with her in Paris, but then the pandemic happened.
She really is. I had arranged for an outcall with her in Paris, but then the pandemic happened.She's looking for three blokes in their thirties for a gang bang right now.
She's looking for three blokes in their thirties for a gang bang right now.Looking at the gaping ass photo on her Twitter; she found more than three!
Kalle Kula
08-03-22, 00:59
She's looking for three blokes in their thirties for a gang bang right now.Wow. Wish I was younger.
Anyone had a MMF session in Thailand?
Explorer8939
08-03-22, 02:35
I am taking 3 ladies from Pattaya to Singapore. Not all at the same time. I am in Singapore with one lady now. This afternoon, I will take her to the airport, see her off, and then 2 ladies will arrive from Pattaya. I know the 2 ladies, they won't play together, but they are okay if I fuck one at a time.
As for switching out ladies at the airport, it's a delicate maneuver.
Wow. Wish I was younger.
Anyone had a MMF session in Thailand?Just hook up with a ladyboy; same thing when you think about it. LOL.
BoredInAmerica
08-04-22, 02:15
Hello gentlemen! I once again seek your collective knowledge and experiences.
I did end up coming to Pattaya and made what I guess could be described as a rookie mistake. I barfined, of sorts, the same girl twice. (I never actually gave the bar any money.) From there I guess I was "claimed" as hers. Recalling RakSopheni's post on the mongerer driven by sex vs those seeking a relationship, I can say that the trip was ruined at that point from a certain sense and perfectly acceptable in the other. At the end of the day, I think it's what I needed at the time. So that's not so much the point of the post.
Fast forwarding to the present, we're still talking and it's how we're talking that I wanted to ask about. She wants to talk all the time! (Did you just think "Yeah, whenever she is bored. ") But I mean video chats while I'm doing sometimes the most mundane of things: exercising, cooking, at work, just whenever. At bedtime (hers or mine), she wants to fall asleep on the line. Like we're sleeping together. It's like hours a day for months. It's a bit awkward sometimes given our other-side-of-the-planet timezones. Is this normal?
She tells me she loves me ("Oh boy. ") and my friend (non-mongerer) and I think she's probably working the "long con" (his word, meaning marriage). I'm not delusional or anything. I have no doubt she's with other guys. But as Explorer8939 mentioned, girls can fall for their customers (is this my hubris? I mean, for reference, she didn't ask for money when we were together. Although I did give her some. And only asked once a few weeks ago for a modest amount, but I declined.
Chimpo Chinn
08-04-22, 18:13
Polly Pons short for Polly Pontifications.
Monkeypaw people, doesn't that turn you Gay / Bisexuality guys off-just a little bit?
MartinFlevo
08-04-22, 18:31
Hello gentlemen! I once again seek your collective knowledge and experiences.
I did end up coming to Pattaya and made what I guess could be described as a rookie mistake. ..
Fast forwarding to the present, we're still talking and it's how we're talking that I wanted to ask about. She wants to talk all the time! (Did you just think "Yeah, whenever she is bored. ") But I mean video chats while I'm doing sometimes the most mundane of things: exercising, cooking, at work, just whenever. At bedtime (hers or mine), she wants to fall asleep on the line. Like we're sleeping together. It's like hours a day for months. It's a bit awkward sometimes given our other-side-of-the-planet timezones. Is this normal?
She tells me she loves me ("Oh boy. ") and my friend (non-mongerer) and I think she's probably working the "long con" (his word, meaning marriage). I'm not delusional or anything. I have no doubt she's with other guys. But as Explorer8939 mentioned, girls can fall for their customers (is this my hubris? I mean, for reference, she didn't ask for money when we were together. Although I did give her some. And only asked once a few weeks ago for a modest amount, but I declined.Well believe it or not. But those working girls are also human. So yeah she COULD be falling for you and be bored and be playing the long game. All at once. Keep in mind its low season so she might have time between her freelance ST / LT things.
Feels to me you are just not into her that much. THAT's a reason to just. Break up? Don't ghost / block her. Just break up.
I got the assumption all those chats / calls are when you are back home and NOT in Thailand.
Mr Enternational
08-04-22, 19:38
She tells me she loves me ("Oh boy. ") and my friend (non-mongerer) and I think she's probably working the "long con" (his word, meaning marriage). I'm not delusional or anything. I have no doubt she's with other guys. But as Explorer8939 mentioned, girls can fall for their customers (is this my hubris? I mean, for reference, she didn't ask for money when we were together. Although I did give her some. And only asked once a few weeks ago for a modest amount, but I declined.Talk and be friends with her if you have nothing else to do at the time. But it seems you already know the rules: No Dough!
Explorer8939
08-05-22, 03:00
Hello gentlemen! I once again seek your collective knowledge and experiences.
I did end up coming to Pattaya and made what I guess could be described as a rookie mistake. I barfined, of sorts, the same girl twice. (I never actually gave the bar any money.) From there I guess I was "claimed" as hers. Recalling RakSopheni's post on the mongerer driven by sex vs those seeking a relationship, I can say that the trip was ruined at that point from a certain sense and perfectly acceptable in the other. At the end of the day, I think it's what I needed at the time. So that's not so much the point of the post.
Fast forwarding to the present, we're still talking and it's how we're talking that I wanted to ask about. She wants to talk all the time! (Did you just think "Yeah, whenever she is bored. ") But I mean video chats while I'm doing sometimes the most mundane of things: exercising, cooking, at work, just whenever. At bedtime (hers or mine), she wants to fall asleep on the line. Like we're sleeping together. It's like hours a day for months. It's a bit awkward sometimes given our other-side-of-the-planet timezones. Is this normal?.Not a long con, this is a medium con.
Bar girls are constantly working their telephone with multiple potential sponsors. At some point, she will reveal a sick child, parent, uncle, or Buffalo, which is her hint for you to send money. If you don't, at some point, she will stop playing telephone with you.
Explorer8939
08-05-22, 03:04
I am taking 3 ladies from Pattaya to Singapore. Not all at the same time. I am in Singapore with one lady now. This afternoon, I will take her to the airport, see her off, and then 2 ladies will arrive from Pattaya. I know the 2 ladies, they won't play together, but they are okay if I fuck one at a time.
As for switching out ladies at the airport, it's a delicate maneuver.Wow, it actually worked!
Today, I fly back to Bangkok, and will spend the night with a Pattaya bargirl who is in Bangkok for personal business.
The two ladies with me now will go back to Pattaya when we reach Suvarnaphumi airport.
No problem fucking one lady with the other in the same room.
BoredInAmerica
08-05-22, 04:47
Feels to me you are just not into her that much. THAT's a reason to just. Break up? Don't ghost / block her. Just break up.
I got the assumption all those chats / calls are when you are back home and NOT in Thailand.That is correct. And it's the "human" part that has me asking (in a similar vein to the are AITAH reddit). I'm just somewhat confused by her behavior and curious if anyone else has seen anything like it. I like being friends with her and want to see her again as Mr Enternational suggested, but not at the cost of leading her on. She told me she loved me the second morning and tells me she won't even look at other guys. This seems like the lie we've all heard, no?
Basically I met her at the bar and left with her as it closed. From then on she managed to stick with me the rest of the trip and money was never discussed. It was intoxicating at first, but she slips up way too much in her stories so it's really turning me off. I mean I could spend another week with her and enjoy it, but if she is serious, I need to break up.
Explorer8939
08-05-22, 08:22
If you think a bargirl is in love with you, make sure you get her Facebook and Messenger contact info. Don't use LINE with a bargirl.
Sometimes bargirls forget to scrub their Facebook account, which may have posts showing their Thai husband.
Same with Messenger. A lot of bargirls are active on Messenger at 3 AM, which either means they are at a boy bar (they open after the bars close), or they are chatting up men in the US.
I always look at the post history of any new Facebook friend.
Bro,
Can someone share the current damage for different options.
BF - 300?
ST - 1000 (Only 1 or more).
LT - 1500 (2 shots or more).
I know depends on negotiation and how do you manage. But, can someone share this in case.
Returning to Pattaya after a 4 yr absence and staying in the middle of Soi Bukhao.
4 years ago the treetown area was an empty field with one VW microbus parked serving cocktails.
The transformation is nothing short of a miracle!
1000's of ladies to choose from!
The big downer for me is bars insisting on music at ear bursting levels. Impossible to talk to provider or negotiate easily!
I measured the volume in several bars at 105 dB with the live bands even louder.
Memo to bar owners. More noise does not make your bar more attractive.
Had three providers over 4 days, average BF 300-400,1500 LT, 1000ST and 1000 LT.
Hello gentlemen! I once again seek your collective knowledge and experiences.
I did end up coming to Pattaya and made what I guess could be described as a rookie mistake. I barfined, of sorts, the same girl twice. (I never actually gave the bar any money.) From there I guess I was "claimed" as hers. Recalling RakSopheni's post on the mongerer driven by sex vs those seeking a relationship, I can say that the trip was ruined at that point from a certain sense and perfectly acceptable in the other. At the end of the day, I think it's what I needed at the time. So that's not so much the point of the post.
Fast forwarding to the present, we're still talking and it's how we're talking that I wanted to ask about. She wants to talk all the time! (Did you just think "Yeah, whenever she is bored. ") But I mean video chats while I'm doing sometimes the most mundane of things: exercising, cooking, at work, just whenever. At bedtime (hers or mine), she wants to fall asleep on the line. Like we're sleeping together. It's like hours a day for months. It's a bit awkward sometimes given our other-side-of-the-planet timezones. Is this normal?.I'm curious as to how and when you met her. You say that you didn't give her any money, although you sort of barfined her, and you say you have no doubt she has other customers. I think these details would help us understand the situation and offer meaningful commentary.
RakSopheni
08-05-22, 16:45
She told me she loved me the second morning and tells me she won't even look at other guys. This seems like the lie we've all heard, no?
Basically I met her at the bar and left with her as it closed. From then on she managed to stick with me the rest of the trip and money was never discussed. It was intoxicating at first, but she slips up way too much in her stories so it's really turning me off. I mean I could spend another week with her and enjoy it, but if she is serious, I need to break up.If you met her at a bar, and she told you she loved you the second morning, it's not a "real" relationship. These girls can turn the act on and off on a dime- I've seen them do it. If you haven't given her money it could be that she's playing the long game, or she's just on autopilot, doing what she does, and has only stayed engaged because it is low season and there are no other takers.
All that being said, she could have feelings that are "real", but keep in mind these feelings could easily be projected on to somebody else and you are more and image or an idea to her than an actual real person.
If you are enjoying it, continue, if not end it and don't think twice. She will have a new "love" pretty quickly and forget all about you.
RS.
.......Feels to me you are just not into her that much......On the contrary it seems to me that he is into her and is worried about that and quite rightly so. Long distance relationships are difficult to maintain.
Member #4753
08-05-22, 17:31
Hello gentlemen! I once again seek your collective knowledge and experiences.
I did end up coming to Pattaya and made what I guess could be described as a rookie mistake. I barfined, of sorts, the same girl twice. (I never actually gave the bar any money.) From there I guess I was "claimed" as hers. Recalling RakSopheni's post on the mongerer driven by sex vs those seeking a relationship, I can say that the trip was ruined at that point from a certain sense and perfectly acceptable in the other. At the end of the day, I think it's what I needed at the time. So that's not so much the point of the post.
Fast forwarding to the present, we're still talking and it's how we're talking that I wanted to ask about. She wants to talk all the time! (Did you just think "Yeah, whenever she is bored. ") But I mean video chats while I'm doing sometimes the most mundane of things: exercising, cooking, at work, just whenever. At bedtime (hers or mine), she wants to fall asleep on the line. Like we're sleeping together. It's like hours a day for months. It's a bit awkward sometimes given our other-side-of-the-planet timezones. Is this normal?
She tells me she loves me ("Oh boy. ") and my friend (non-mongerer) and I think she's probably working the "long con" (his word, meaning marriage). I'm not delusional or anything. I have no doubt she's with other guys. But as Explorer8939 mentioned, girls can fall for their customers (is this my hubris? I mean, for reference, she didn't ask for money when we were together. Although I did give her some. And only asked once a few weeks ago for a modest amount, but I declined.If you are with a bar girl in Thailand there is a very high chance she is or will cheat on you. Bar girls just get used to lying and it becomes second nature to them.
If you are not in Thailand and having some sort of long distance relationship then there is a 99% chance that she is lying to you about a whole host of things.
You have already seen a number of red flags. You already know what you should do.
If you think a bargirl is in love with you, make sure you get her Facebook and Messenger contact info. Don't use LINE with a bargirl.Correction:
If you think a bargirl is in love with you, you are wrong.
Don't get any info.
Fuck her as many times as you would like / can afford. Then move on with your life.
Sex can be purchased in bars.
Love cannot be purchased anywhere.
MartinFlevo
08-05-22, 21:12
If you think a bargirl is in love with you, make sure you get her Facebook and Messenger contact info. Don't use LINE with a bargirl.
Sometimes bargirls forget to scrub their Facebook account, which may have posts showing their Thai husband.
Same with Messenger. A lot of bargirls are active on Messenger at 3 AM, which either means they are at a boy bar (they open after the bars close), or they are chatting up men in the US.
I always look at the post history of any new Facebook friend.Most pattaya ladies have more then one facebook account. Doesn't work.
More simple. If she is "GF" and she stays Pattaya. She is NOT a GF.
Chimpo Chinn
08-05-22, 22:07
Correction:
If you think a bargirl is in love with you, you are wrong.
Don't get any info.
Fuck her as many times as you would like / can afford. Then move on with your life.
Sex can be purchased in bars.
Love cannot be purchased anywhere.Why is this so hard to understand?
I'm basically referring to girls who work Bar.
Any of the expats know the rules for regular bicycle riding in Pattaya and Thailand like helmet requirements or stay off sidewalks etc.
Long distance relationships are difficult to maintain.LDRs are very easy to maintain: Fuck her, keep her number, fly out tomorrow, 6/12/ however many months later call her "Babe I'm back in town, want to come over? Fuck her again.
If her number is inactive move on to the 8. 7 gazillion other options.
I have NEVER had a girl refuse to see me because I didn't call her 1000 times while I was back home or listen to 100 BS stories of dead uncles and lame buffalo.
Enjoy. G.
Mr Enternational
08-06-22, 00:36
If you are with a bar girl in Thailand there is a very high chance she is or will cheat on you. Bar girls just get used to lying and it becomes second nature to them.
You would have to define what cheating on you is and is that necessarily an adverse thing to the person that is being so-called cheated on? Bar girls are hookers. And hookers fuck for money. That is the first thing to get into your head. A person would also have to define what it means to be their girl. If you don't mind your girl fucking other people for money then I guess there is a no lose situation for you.
Explorer8939
08-06-22, 02:19
Correction:
If you think a bargirl is in love with you, you are wrong.
Don't get any info.
Fuck her as many times as you would like / can afford. Then move on with your life.
Sex can be purchased in bars.
Love cannot be purchased anywhere.I can't disagree with you.
But some guys believe that their Thai lady is different. So, if they see her Facebook, either they will see posts showing her Thai boyfriend, or lots of dining out with customers when she says she needs money because she isn't working.
Hello gentlemen! I once again seek your collective knowledge and experiences.
I did end up coming to Pattaya and made what I guess could be described as a rookie mistake. I barfined, of sorts, the same girl twice. (I never actually gave the bar any money.) From there I guess I was "claimed" as hers. Recalling RakSopheni's post on the mongerer driven by sex vs those seeking a relationship, I can say that the trip was ruined at that point from a certain sense and perfectly acceptable in the other. At the end of the day, I think it's what I needed at the time. So that's not so much the point of the post.
Fast forwarding to the present, we're still talking and it's how we're talking that I wanted to ask about. She wants to talk all the time! (Did you just think "Yeah, whenever she is bored. ") But I mean video chats while I'm doing sometimes the most mundane of things: exercising, cooking, at work, just whenever. At bedtime (hers or mine), she wants to fall asleep on the line. Like we're sleeping together. It's like hours a day for months. It's a bit awkward sometimes given our other-side-of-the-planet timezones. Is this normal?
She tells me she loves me ("Oh boy. ") and my friend (non-mongerer) and I think she's probably working the "long con" (his word, meaning marriage). I'm not delusional or anything. I have no doubt she's with other guys. But as Explorer8939 mentioned, girls can fall for their customers (is this my hubris? I mean, for reference, she didn't ask for money when we were together. Although I did give her some. And only asked once a few weeks ago for a modest amount, but I declined.Yes, this is very normal for thai people, they video call eachother all day long. You don't have to engage the girl in these videos all of the time, she don't expect that you focus on her all the time, just that the video stays on. Its not common for us westerners, but its pretty much an eastern asian thing or sth, they are not as productive as westerners and they are not as private as us, so they use this video call all day everyday and everywhere.
It will get tiresome if you always talk to her for hours, but if you just let the video roll in the background (sometimes not talking to eachother for 30 minutes or an hour, but that you still kinda see what she is doing etc), you'll get used to it.
GentileBear
08-06-22, 04:48
What is there to say? I'll be back soon maybe? Let me send you some money.
These recent posts confirm I am a hardened dark soul. I' can't stand to listen to any woman talk for an hour. Glad you had a great trip and all - "steady barfine" is what it was called in my day. But after I got back home. That was the end. After all these women age quickly and unless you're going back every 6 months. She will get used up. Best to stick with "one night stands. " Man you're patient to tolerate being video called so many times for that duration.
Any of the expats know the rules for regular bicycle riding in Pattaya and Thailand like helmet requirements or stay off sidewalks etc.Helmet is generally not required but a brown shirt may stop you, being that you a foreigner in order to squeeze baht from you, if the opportunity arises. Riding on the sidewalk is just not possible as there are too many obstacles, you may land head first in a uncovered manhole.
Explorer8939
08-06-22, 07:55
Most pattaya ladies have more then one facebook account. Doesn't work.
More simple. If she is "GF" and she stays Pattaya. She is NOT a GF.Check the Facebook account of one her female friends. If your lady has a second FB account, a female friend should be a FB friend of the second account.
Or your lady friend herself may be a friend of her second account.
Hello Brothers,
I am planning a trip to Pattaya in late Aug / early Sep. And I was hoping you guys can guide me with these -.
- What are the prevalent prices for ST and LT? I know it might vary from girl to girl, but what's the standard after the pandemic?
- Are all bars and places open? I loved to be at soi 6 in 2019, is it open or hit by pandemic?
- Prices in soapy parlours at soi honey, are they open and what's the starting price?
- Any special insurance or documents required to enter Thailand?
- Any issues taking a bus from BKK to Pattaya?
These might be obvious questions, but seeking your help to plan my trip better.
Thank You.
McFuck.
Few points.
Hello Brothers,
I am planning a trip to Pattaya in late Aug / early Sep. And I was hoping you guys can guide me with these -.
- What are the prevalent prices for ST and LT? I know it might vary from girl to girl, but what's the standard after the pandemic?
1K Baht for ST and 2K Baht upwards for LT.
- Are all bars and places open? I loved to be at soi 6 in 2019, is it open or hit by pandemic?
Not all places have opened up but by the time you visit, scene would be different.
- Prices in soapy parlours at soi honey, are they open and what's the starting price?
Didnt try so cant comment.
- Any special insurance or documents required to enter Thailand?
Covid 19 Travel insurance and E-pass. (was asked at IGI as well at BKK airports).
Explorer8939
08-06-22, 12:44
Hello Brothers,
I am planning a trip to Pattaya in late Aug / early Sep. And I was hoping you guys can guide me with these -.
- What are the prevalent prices for ST and LT? I know it might vary from girl to girl, but what's the standard after the pandemic?
- Are all bars and places open? I loved to be at soi 6 in 2019, is it open or hit by pandemic?
- Prices in soapy parlours at soi honey, are they open and what's the starting price?
- Any special insurance or documents required to enter Thailand?
- Any issues taking a bus from BKK to Pattaya?
These might be obvious questions, but seeking your help to plan my trip better.
Thank You.
McFuck.RTFF.
Short answers: yes. No.
Explorer8939
08-06-22, 12:48
The information resources for a bargirl to learn how to manipulate customers is much more extensive than what is available to you. They are taught exactly how to handle customers to maximize income.
I have ladies chat me up at all hours of the night (their time), while lying in bed with their Thai husband.
Don't fall for it.
If you read stickmans site it gives up to date info on everwhere in LOS.
https://www.stickmanbangkok.com/weekly-column/2022/07/pattaya-july-2022/
Up to date info.
Karikamiya
08-06-22, 14:28
Any of the expats know the rules for regular bicycle riding in Pattaya and Thailand like helmet requirements or stay off sidewalks etc.You should probably wear a helmet so you don't, you know, die.
SoberHans69
08-06-22, 14:37
Hello Brothers,
I am planning a trip to Pattaya in late Aug / early Sep. And I was hoping you guys can guide me with these -.
- What are the prevalent prices for ST and LT? I know it might vary from girl to girl, but what's the standard after the pandemic?
- Are all bars and places open? I loved to be at soi 6 in 2019, is it open or hit by pandemic?
- Prices in soapy parlours at soi honey, are they open and what's the starting price?
- Any special insurance or documents required to enter Thailand?
- Any issues taking a bus from BKK to Pattaya?
These might be obvious questions, but seeking your help to plan my trip better.
Thank You.
McFuck.I'll be there from the 1st September, PM me if you want a wingman.
Hello Brothers,
I am planning a trip to Pattaya in late Aug / early Sep. And I was hoping you guys can guide me with these -.
- What are the prevalent prices for ST and LT? I know it might vary from girl to girl, but what's the standard after the pandemic?
- Are all bars and places open? I loved to be at soi 6 in 2019, is it open or hit by pandemic?
- Prices in soapy parlours at soi honey, are they open and what's the starting price?
- Any special insurance or documents required to enter Thailand?
- Any issues taking a bus from BKK to Pattaya?
McFuck.1 k-1. 5 k st for beerbar and thaifriendly girls.
LT is becoming more rare (this started before covid). Some girls won't go LT, ones that do I'd say double their ST rate would be accurate.
No covid requirements.
Buses running as normal.
MartinFlevo
08-06-22, 15:11
- What are the prevalent prices for ST and LT? I know it might vary from girl to girl, but what's the standard after the pandemic?
1000 and up for ST. 1500 and up for LT.
- Are all bars and places open? I loved to be at soi 6 in 2019, is it open or hit by pandemic?
About 80% is open. Expect more old / ugly ladies. Less guys / tourist.
- Prices in soapy parlours at soi honey, are they open and what's the starting price?
Its open. Didn't go so don't know prices. Mainly indians go there.
- Any special insurance or documents required to enter Thailand?
Proof of vaccination OR a <72 HR covid test.
Insurance is NOT mandatory (but advised).
- Any issues taking a bus from BKK to Pattaya?
No. But for 1000 b you got a taxi.
Explorer8939
08-07-22, 01:09
1 k-1. 5 k st for beerbar and thaifriendly girls.
LT is becoming more rare (this started before covid). Some girls won't go LT, ones that do I'd say double their ST rate would be accurate.
No covid requirements.
Buses running as normal.Generally, ladies with Thai boyfriends don't go Long Time.
They can go ST and lie to their boyfriend that they only drink. That is, if they don't work in an open bar that doesn't have onsite rooms.
What is there to say? I'll be back soon maybe? Let me send you some money.
These recent posts confirm I am a hardened dark soul. I' can't stand to listen to any woman talk for an hour. Glad you had a great trip and all - "steady barfine" is what it was called in my day. But after I got back home. That was the end. After all these women age quickly and unless you're going back every 6 months. She will get used up. Best to stick with "one night stands. " Man you're patient to tolerate being video called so many times for that duration.I agree. That's why I stick to ST. I made the mistake yesterday to take a girl out to eat instead of just giving her money to leave after the act and man I wanted to shoot myself in the face. This girl took two hours dragging me around Sukhumvit and T21 trying to figure out what she wanted to eat, in the end we ended up at the T21 food court LOL. My wallet was happy (basically got ST for 200 baht) but the time wasted and having to be in her company wasn't worth it.
For the life of me don't know how mEn live with women or date women.
Hello Brothers,
I am planning a trip to Pattaya in late Aug / early Sep. And I was hoping you guys can guide me with these -.
- What are the prevalent prices for ST and LT? I know it might vary from girl to girl, but what's the standard after the pandemic?
- Are all bars and places open? I loved to be at soi 6 in 2019, is it open or hit by pandemic?
- Prices in soapy parlours at soi honey, are they open and what's the starting price?
- Any special insurance or documents required to enter Thailand?
- Any issues taking a bus from BKK to Pattaya?
These might be obvious questions, but seeking your help to plan my trip better.
Thank You.
McFuck.Why would there be any issues taking a bus from BKK to Pattaya? If you're so worried about taking a bus, then spend the $ and take a cab.
Explorer8939
08-07-22, 06:40
What is there to say? I'll be back soon maybe? Let me send you some money.
These recent posts confirm I am a hardened dark soul. I' can't stand to listen to any woman talk for an hour. Glad you had a great trip and all - "steady barfine" is what it was called in my day. But after I got back home. That was the end. After all these women age quickly and unless you're going back every 6 months. She will get used up. Best to stick with "one night stands. " Man you're patient to tolerate being video called so many times for that duration.I message ladies only for logistics, ie what time I will meet them, how long they are going to stay, etc.
If you read stickmans site it gives up to date info on everwhere in LOS.
https://www.stickmanbangkok.com/weekly-column/2022/07/pattaya-july-2022/
Up to date info.With the caveat that Stickman reports from New Zealand. He moved there years ago and relies on his contacts for material now. It's mostly about Bangkok.
Hello Brothers,
I am planning a trip to Pattaya in late Aug / early Sep. And I was hoping you guys can guide me with these -.
- What are the prevalent prices for ST and LT? I know it might vary from girl to girl, but what's the standard after the pandemic?
- Are all bars and places open? I loved to be at soi 6 in 2019, is it open or hit by pandemic?
- Prices in soapy parlours at soi honey, are they open and what's the starting price?
- Any special insurance or documents required to enter Thailand?
- Any issues taking a bus from BKK to Pattaya?
These might be obvious questions, but seeking your help to plan my trip better.
Thank You.
McFuck.Bus from Bangkok to Pattaya is cheap and efficient. Roong Reuang Coach (10 min ride from Walking Street) operates buses to Bangkok Ekkamai hourly (next to BTS station). Tickets cost is approx and the journey takes 2 hours (depending on traffic).
Sir Lancelot
08-08-22, 12:22
Bus from Bangkok to Pattaya is cheap and efficient. Roong Reuang Coach (10 min ride from Walking Street) operates buses to Bangkok Ekkamai hourly (next to BTS station). Tickets cost is approx and the journey takes 2 hours (depending on traffic).The bus service from Suvarnabhumi Airport in Bangkok to Pattaya is cheap and efficient too. Descend down to Level 1 at the airport, turn left and walk all the way to Exit 7. There is a booth selling bus tickets to Pattaya (130 baht, 90 minutes).
Plush Tiger
08-08-22, 14:42
- Are all bars and places open? I loved to be at soi 6 in 2019, is it open or hit by pandemic?
Stayed around that area late July. Seem there is still some action, not at the levels before the pandemic though. Quality was average, but I was not hunting since I brought my own food.
Cheers.
Explorer8939
08-08-22, 15:53
Stayed around that area late July. Seem there is still some action, not at the levels before the pandemic though. Quality was average, but I was not hunting since I brought my own food..There are new Soi 6 bars opening all the time.
But Soi Chaiyapoon is really the new Soi 6.
Arrive late to the Areca Lodge; likely about 1:30 am from the BKK airport. In the past (pre-covid), bars would stay open as long as patrons were buying. Is this still the case? My understanding is that bars close at 2:00 am; is this firm? Any late night options in LK Metro?
Thanks.
JasonSilva
08-08-22, 17:54
Arrive late to the Areca Lodge; likely about 1:30 am from the BKK airport. In the past (pre-covid), bars would stay open as long as patrons were buying. Is this still the case? My understanding is that bars close at 2:00 am; is this firm? Any late night options in LK Metro?
Thanks.Yes, most of the bars are closing at 1:30-2 am.
When I went out at 3 am Soi Bukhao was kind of deserted.
Mongering1
08-08-22, 22:59
I will be there in a couple of days, super late. I've gotten quite a bit of my questions answered from YouTubers.
As far as legitimate massage, any favorites? Maybe a spa? Russian spa?
I just read a the couple of trip reports on here from my previous visits. Looks like this trip is going to break the 5 figure mark!
JasonSilva
08-09-22, 00:03
I will be there in a couple of days, super late. I've gotten quite a bit of my questions answered from YouTubers.
As far as legitimate massage, any favorites? Maybe a spa? Russian spa?
I just read a the couple of trip reports on here from my previous visits. Looks like this trip is going to break the 5 figure mark!Plenty of legitimate spas in Pattaya. Check beach road.
There are no spas with Russians AFAIK. They are mostly Uzbeks and street smart. They will take you for a ride. Avoid them.
ThaiGoodTimes
08-09-22, 04:45
I will be there in a couple of days, super late. I've gotten quite a bit of my questions answered from YouTubers.
As far as legitimate massage, any favorites? Maybe a spa? Russian spa?
I just read a the couple of trip reports on here from my previous visits. Looks like this trip is going to break the 5 figure mark!A word of caution.
Don't trust at all what you see on YouTubers and Bloggers as being accurate for you.
They all have an agenda and edit their content to suit.
Explorer8939
08-09-22, 08:03
I had a lady message me today, so I asked if she wanted to come over tonight. She responded that she was going out with a lady tonight, so she couldn't. But then, she circled back to asking if she could come over for Short Time before she went out.
Translation: she had an appointment with a customer later tonight, but wanted to get a quickie in first to maximize income.
I was not particularly interested in early evening rushed sex, so I deferred to another day. Instead, I will hit the bars tonight.
LittleBigMan
08-10-22, 09:21
A word of caution.
Don't trust at all what you see on YouTubers and Bloggers as being accurate for you.
They all have an agenda and edit their content to suit.True! Although interesting content YouTube very few provide real true content. These guy know each other same with majority of places open on Soi Buakhao and now Soi Pothole they seem to have gotten together to set their prices and hire girls that don't BF but work for drink.
Instead of prices going down these guys have pour huge money into opening and want their return and that was before inflation. Don't believe everything!
Bus from Bangkok to Pattaya is cheap and efficient. Roong Reuang Coach (10 min ride from Walking Street) operates buses to Bangkok Ekkamai hourly (next to BTS station). Tickets cost is approx and the journey takes 2 hours (depending on traffic).Taxi costs around US $40 with current exchange rates. Goes when you want. Stops when you want. Trip takes 80 minutes or so, depending on how often you stop and the speed you direct the taxi to drive.
I simply can't imagine why a guy would go through a low class bus ride after a long flight to Thailand when a taxi is so inexpensive.
If you don't have $40 for a taxi you probably shouldn't be traveling internationally.
StLouisMo2010
08-10-22, 15:49
Taxi costs around US $40 with current exchange rates. Goes when you want. Stops when you want. Trip takes 80 minutes or so, depending on how often you stop and the speed you direct the taxi to drive.
I simply can't imagine why a guy would go through a low class bus ride after a long flight to Thailand when a taxi is so inexpensive.
If you don't have $40 for a taxi you probably shouldn't be traveling internationally.One may also remember that once you get to the Pattaya station you need to deal with any luggage that you have with you, backpack / shoulder bag no be deal, but if you are traveling for a length of time you will probably have a roller bag of some size which will need to be handled until you get to your accommodation. Baht Bus maybe, but most end up having to get another taxi in Pattaya- some call the taxi mafia- which will in the long run reduce your savings by taking a bus.
If you arrange your transportation in advance with a local Taxi Service like Nam's Lady Taxi Drivers the fee is 1000 Bhat (current $28) - they meet you at the airport meeting point and take you to your door in Pattaya- overall I think it is worth it.
One may also remember that once you get to the Pattaya station you need to deal with any luggage that you have with you, backpack / shoulder bag no be deal, but if you are traveling for a length of time you will probably have a roller bag of some size which will need to be handled until you get to your accommodation. Baht Bus maybe, but most end up having to get another taxi in Pattaya- some call the taxi mafia- which will in the long run reduce your savings by taking a bus.
If you arrange your transportation in advance with a local Taxi Service like Nam's Lady Taxi Drivers the fee is 1000 Bhat (current $28) - they meet you at the airport meeting point and take you to your door in Pattaya- overall I think it is worth it.Each time I arrive Bangkok airport, I use BTS to reach my hotel in Bangkok which is very cheap and even faster the to use a taxi.
And when I'm going to Pattaya from airport, I use the BUS which is only 200 bahts and you have a bus every 30 min which is perfect!
One may also remember that once you get to the Pattaya station you need to deal with any luggage that you have with you, backpack / shoulder bag no be deal, but if you are traveling for a length of time you will probably have a roller bag of some size which will need to be handled until you get to your accommodation. Baht Bus maybe, but most end up having to get another taxi in Pattaya- some call the taxi mafia- which will in the long run reduce your savings by taking a bus.Add to that the potential waiting, and the weather could be hotter than Hades or raining like crazy. I tried it once for the heck of it, taking the bus from Bangkok to Pattaya. Learned my lesson. Never again. IMO door to door service is worth the coin. I used Bell Travel but I don't know if they are operating post-CoVid.
SL.
GentileBear
08-10-22, 21:45
I have recently used Mr. Taxi Service in BKK to Pattaya and it is reputable. It's also cool to see your name written on a white paper being held by the driver. After your long ass flight.
BoredInAmerica
08-11-22, 01:21
Add to that the potential waiting, and the weather could be hotter than Hades or raining like crazy. I tried it once for the heck of it, taking the bus from Bangkok to Pattaya. Learned my lesson. Never again. IMO door to door service is worth the coin. I used Bell Travel but I don't know if they are operating post-CoVid.
SL.I second (third?) the notion to avoid the bus. I thought it was a deal - 200 baht! Now, it could have been the road or this particular bus, but it felt like we were at sea, bouncing up and down for most of the over 2+ hour trip. I'm not one to get motion sick, but it was enough to bother me. Then add in the need to find transportation in Pattaya and I wasted a lot of time and energy to save 700 baht (50 baht for the hotel-bus station transit in both cities as I stayed in Bangkok first).
If you do decide to take the bus, a word of caution: don't be late. I arrived one minute late due to traffic and had to get another ticket. I took the taxi to the airport from Pattaya. So ask yourself: Is your time worth $20 dollars?
Explorer8939
08-11-22, 05:51
I should remind everyone that the Thai baht has plunged in value this year, so Thailand is very cheap.
Right now, cost of ladies or drinks or transport are not a big issue in my planning. What matters to me now are time and the number of shots I can manage.
I am doing two ladies per day, one early in day, and one late at night, for a sleepover. Sometimes the day lady forces me to fuck, which screws up my schedule.
I go to Vietnam on Monday for a short trip with my bargirlfriend. So, my remaining time in Pattaya is limited.
The fastest times from my apartment near Nana BTS station in Bangkok to the front door of my Pattaya Walking Street hotel was about 2 hours and 10 minutes.
I'm talking about during pre Covid normal times and at a reasonable time of mid-morning or mid-day departure. I'm sure I could have done it faster if I'd taken a taxi all the way and started at some ungodly hour of the early morning or late night when traffic is lighter. But I am not into that. And I hate sitting in parking lot jammed traffic in Bangkok either by bus or taxi where it takes almost 90 minutes just to get out of the city.
So here is what I did with my one small carry-on bag:
I sailed over and past all the inner city Bangkok traffic by riding the BTS (could be the MRT, depending on the location of your hotel or apartment) to the nearest Airport Rail Link station. Then I rode that train to its Lat Krabang station. That is the last station before the airport (Suvarnabhumi Airport).
There is no reason to ride it all the way into the airport, then have to walk from the train terminal to the airport exits or bus / taxi dispatchers and all that. 45 baht to Lat Krabang plus about 25 baht for the BTS / MRT to get to the nearest Airport Rail Link station.
I just walked down the steps at Lat Krabang station, hailed and negotiated a fare with one of the dozens of taxis passing through right there. It was usually 1,000 - 1,200 baht total. No, it isn't a savings vs a taxi from the airport. But there is zero in and out of the airport hassle. That spot is very close to the expressway on ramp.
From there the taxi ride to Pattaya and my hotel on Walking Street was usually a little more than an hour.
The thing I liked about going that way is I was never at the mercy of Bangkok's inner city traffic. I was always on the move to my destination at a clip.
I also liked to return from Pattaya to Bangkok by simply reversing the process. But it was often a bit of a chore explaining to the taxi driver that, no, I don't want to be taken all the way to the airport, just drop me off at the Lat Krabang Airport Rail Link station instead, don't worry, I'll pay the same amount as though you're taking me to the airport. That worked.
JasonSilva
08-11-22, 14:09
Annie Jacks is one of your best bets in Soi Buakhao area but if you see a girl you like, establish early if she's bar-fineable as some make enough from lady-drinks they don't go with customers. Rest & Chill and Lai in the corner of Tree Town have pretty girls but the latter has a ludicrous 1000 BF. That's not to say you can't swap Line details with one of their girls and meet during the day though. French Kiss in Tree Town is popular later at night because it has a dance floor and, speaking of dancing, Beach Club in the middle of tree town is a nightclub with freelancers and entry is free. I didn't establish prices because I took a gogo girl there instead. Speaking of gogos, Queen on LK Metro seems to be stocked with the prettiest selection of girls at the moment, Crystal Club is usually a good bet and Sugar Sugar is also worth visiting.
But my recommendation would just be to walk along soi Buakhao and loop around Tree Town until you see a girl you like the look of. Even in the quiet bars you can find a gem. Joy Bar, Blue Sky Bar and Avatar are always worth stopping at for a drink and give an ideal spot to see girls walking along the street.
On a sidenote, if you like soi 6 and not being ripped off, consider exploring the gents clubs. They have identical pricing to soi 6 (300 for a room, 1000 for the girl) and beer is usually cheap with 2-for-1 offers and suchlike. Some of the the gents clubs on Soi Pothole had nice looking girls outside and there are loads of GCs on soi Boomerang.You should be Upgraded to Lord from Sir for such useful posts. Thanks and bookmarked.
Just to confirm, the bar fine is 300 THB for most of the bars including Sugar Sugar? I hate drinking so just want to select the girl and come out. Don't want to pay to mamasan, lady drinks etc.
JasonSilva
08-11-22, 14:39
How many guys have reported going out and not being able to find a chick they wanted? They spend hours going from bar to bar seeing 4 or 5 chicks at a time. With TF you can quickly scroll hundreds of chicks while comfortably sitting on your toilet. Talk to the one you like and say come over right now. Yes there are risks. And the flakiness usually comes when you want to make a reservation. If you tell them lets do it right here right now same as you would at a bar, then there will be less of a chance of flaking. Some chicks on there are regular chicks with regular jobs though, so do not mistake everyone as being P4P.TF has one major problem. There is no predictability when the girl will arrive. It can be anywhere between 1 hour to 3 hours. Lot of girls can't reply due to 10 minutes limit. Many don't check TF frequently and the good looking once her 500 messages everyday.
I don't drink hence I have tried TF many times. It works but not worth spending 2 hours everyday and messaging to check when are you leaving. If it's better to go out and pick at your convenience.
Lot of girls have put heavily photoshop pics on TF too which you can avoid by meeting them at bars.
Mr Enternational
08-11-22, 17:35
The bus takes the same time to get from the airport to Pattaya as a taxi does. And if you are arriving in the morning there will not be anything else to do anyway. What I used to do is arrive and go downstairs to see if a bus is getting ready to leave. If it is, then I hop on it. I do not remember the price. Depending on the bus it was like 120-200 baht. If it will be another hour wait, then I just go upstairs and get a taxi for 1000 baht because I could have arrived in a taxi by the time I had waited 1 hour for a bus.
I definitely will not take a bus from Pattaya to Bangkok City or the reverse anymore. I did that once and it took 5 hours.
Sir Lancelot
08-11-22, 19:22
You should be Upgraded to Lord from Sir for such useful posts. Thanks and bookmarked.
Just to confirm, the bar fine is 300 THB for most of the bars including Sugar Sugar? I hate drinking so just want to select the girl and come out. Don't want to pay to mamasan, lady drinks etc.Haha, thanks for the compliment. I do regret choosing a titled username!
300/400 baht was the barfine at most of the beer bars in Tree Town when I visited in March but it's always more expensive at gogo bars. As a general rule of thumb, anywhere you get to see a 'show', I. E semi-nude girls dancing on stage, the bar-fine will be more. The gogo bars on LK Metro and Sugar Sugar were charging 600-800.
If you're not in to your drinking, consider starting your search at 6 pm /7 pm as a lot of girls have just started their shift and the gogo bars have them sat on stools outside to entice customers in. You'll see pretty girls outside places like Sugar Sugar, Crystal Club, Kink, Queen etc. I know you said you don't like buying lady-drinks but one advantage is that you can have a chat with your choice of girl and if you hit it off swap Line details. You can meet her when she's not working (I. E next afternoon) without having to pay her bar-fine.
Mr Enternational
08-11-22, 19:30
TF has one major problem. There is no predictability when the girl will arrive. It can be anywhere between 1 hour to 3 hours.Never had that problem. I have a motorbike so if the chick does not have one I am usually picking her up or going to chill at her place. Most of the time it is them bugging me about when I am coming.
Great content on pattya forum so far. Looking forward to my 1st trip here, though been to BKK 3 times!
Just a simpler Q. Other than walking street, is there a Nana plaza and Thermae equivalent in Pattaya that's mainly for freelancer??
Thanks. And hoping to add more reports here too.
Taxi costs around US $40 with current exchange rates. Goes when you want. Stops when you want. Trip takes 80 minutes or so, depending on how often you stop and the speed you direct the taxi to drive.
I simply can't imagine why a guy would go through a low class bus ride after a long flight to Thailand when a taxi is so inexpensive.
If you don't have $40 for a taxi you probably shouldn't be traveling internationally.It's a personal choice for me and has little to do with budget. I sometimes take a taxi (almost always take a taxi to Pattaya from the airport), but confess that if I am in Bangkok and I'm going to Pattaya for the weekend with just a small handbag, I enjoy the BTS ride, walking around Ekkamai bus terminal looking at people, and enjoy watching people in the "low class" bus. I don't usually enjoy sitting behind a taxi driver for 2 hours with nothing to say. The bus is also environmentally friendly if you care about that.
Sir Lancelot
08-12-22, 01:08
Great content on pattya forum so far. Looking forward to my 1st trip here, though been to BKK 3 times!
Just a simpler Q. Other than walking street, is there a Nana plaza and Thermae equivalent in Pattaya that's mainly for freelancer??
Thanks. And hoping to add more reports here too.Nana Plaza is quite unique in its layout (anyone remember the hair salon on the third floor?) You won't find a three storey complex like that in Pattaya but there are streets of gogo bars. Walking Street has lots of options but is generally quite expensive. Some would say the quality of girls in Pinup are worth the expense though. I prefer Soi LK Metro as it's cheaper with less ladydrink pressure, plus there are some really good bars. I'd rank Queen as the top-dog but others are very good too.
When you say you're looking for a Thermae equivalent, I presume you don't mean a basement you get throat cancer in within ten minutes because it's so smoky, rather a place packed with freelancers? Maybe nightclubs like Beach Club are your best bet although most gogo / beer bar girls are freelancers when they're not working in their bar. Download Line and get lots of contacts in your phone and you won't be short of daytime meets for only 1000 baht. Only go to Beach Road for freelancers if bargain basement banging is your thing.
For your first trip to Pattaya, you must give soi 6 a visit too, it's your quintessential Pattaya experience. It's a long road of bars with lots of girls lining the street. Find a girl you like, take her upstairs to a short-time room (1300 baht, all in) and half an hour later you'll be heading back to your hotel with a smile on your face.
Explorer8939
08-12-22, 04:50
The baht buses give a good approximation of how busy Pattaya is.
3 months ago, I would wait 10 minutes for a baht bus to come by. Now, there are traffic jams made up of baht buses.
Tonight, I am planning something special, a lady I know who lusts after busty ladies when she is drunk. So, she will come to the condo to drink, and when she is ready, we will go to some gogo and I will let her pick a lady to molest. If she is into it, I will barfine the lady to take back to the condo for more fun.
That's the plan, but this is Pattaya where plans go to die.
I definitely will not take a bus from Pattaya to Bangkok City or the reverse anymore. I did that once and it took 5 hours.The intra-BKK part usually takes a lot of time due to BKK traffic. A workaround is to get off at first BTS stop and take the BTS from there. Saves a lot of time.
Nana Plaza is quite unique in its layout (anyone remember the hair salon on the third floor?) You won't find a three storey complex like that in Pattaya but there are streets of gogo bars. Walking Street has lots of options but is generally quite expensive. Some would say the quality of girls in Pinup are worth the expense though. I prefer Soi LK Metro as it's cheaper with less ladydrink pressure, plus there are some really good bars. I'd rank Queen as the top-dog but others are very good too.
When you say you're looking for a Thermae equivalent, I presume you don't mean a basement you get throat cancer in within ten minutes because it's so smoky, rather a place packed with freelancers? Maybe nightclubs like Beach Club are your best bet although most gogo / beer bar girls are freelancers when they're not working in their bar. Download Line and get lots of contacts in your phone and you won't be short of daytime meets for only 1000 baht. Only go to Beach Road for freelancers if bargain basement banging is your thing.
For your first trip to Pattaya, you must give soi 6 a visit too, it's your quintessential Pattaya experience. It's a long road of bars with lots of girls lining the street. Find a girl you like, take her upstairs to a short-time room (1300 baht, all in) and half an hour later you'll be heading back to your hotel with a smile on your face.Thanks a lot Sir Lancelot. Appreciate your input. And I'm a heavy smoker so the basements will suit me fine LOL. But I was referring to Thermae as freelance pickup. Had the most amazing finds there and I usually get hotel close to that. Makes life easy. So I was seeing what is the equivalent of that in Pattaya. Will definitely check Soi 6. Have to learn from the master!
MartinFlevo
08-12-22, 14:43
Great content on pattya forum so far. Looking forward to my 1st trip here, though been to BKK 3 times!
Just a simpler Q. Other than walking street, is there a Nana plaza and Thermae equivalent in Pattaya that's mainly for freelancer??
Thanks. And hoping to add more reports here too.No. For gogobars you need to go Walking street or LK Metro. WS Expensive? Depends on your taste. As said pinup is easy the number 1 Gogobar in town.
For LK Metro I think KINK is worth a visit. Old Windmill staff (and girls) created a great venue in LK!
Freelancers? Thaifriendly / Tinder. And they walk around in clubs like ibar / insomnia / republic / lucifer /808/ Myst. Enough choice in music and girls.
StLouisMo2010
08-12-22, 15:20
Never had that problem. I have a motorbike so if the chick does not have one I am usually picking her up or going to chill at her place. Most of the time it is them bugging me about when I am coming.With great respect to Mr. Entertainment- I was on the ground for 30 days recently, had 32 sessions with TF- on each I would send a "map" of my location from Line, to the lady and ask her to keep in touch with me on timing- I had one which had not shown up within the hour- she got cancelled- she blamed it on her Mother- all others were within 5-10 minutes of appointment time- several were as much as 30 minutes early- I really think the Line Map helped.
Explorer8939
08-13-22, 03:25
Tonight, I am planning something special, a lady I know who lusts after busty ladies when she is drunk. So, she will come to the condo to drink, and when she is ready, we will go to some gogo and I will let her pick a lady to molest. If she is into it, I will barfine the lady to take back to the condo for more fun.
That's the plan, but this is Pattaya where plans go to die.I made a newbie mistake last night, which ruined my plans.
The lady came over, and got smashed in my condo.
But, I took her to a bar that she goes to a lot, and she ended up sitting and chatting with some lady friend who I was supposed to buy drinks for. So, I bailed.
The mistake was taking her to a bar where she knew the ladies, I should have taken her somewhere new.
Axel Heyst
08-13-22, 04:11
The last thing I want to do when I am on a trip is hang out in my hotel room shopping for girls on the internet. What a time consuming, boring thing to do! Get out, enjoy the nightlife, smell the sea breeze, go to Go Go's, bars, nightclubs, gentlemen clubs, Soi 6, window shop sw's; there is so much to take in. Pattaya is a truly extraordinary place, but you have to get out and mix things up. Maybe guys had no choice during the prolonged lockdown, but now you do.
JasonSilva
08-13-22, 14:47
Never had that problem. I have a motorbike so if the chick does not have one I am usually picking her up or going to chill at her place. Most of the time it is them bugging me about when I am coming.That is certainly one way of solving the unpredictablity problem. Though I like comfort and safety of my hotel room.
Do you only message girls who are online on TF? As they are the once who will reply instantly and can come in next 30 minutes.
ThaiGoodTimes
08-14-22, 10:43
The last thing I want to do when I am on a trip is hang out in my hotel room shopping for girls on the internet. What a time consuming, boring thing to do! Get out, enjoy the nightlife, smell the sea breeze, go to Go Go's, bars, nightclubs, gentlemen clubs, Soi 6, window shop sw's; there is so much to take in. Pattaya is a truly extraordinary place, but you have to get out and mix things up. Maybe guys had no choice during the prolonged lockdown, but now you do.Agree 1000000%.
I always have to get out and "live" the location.
One may also remember that once you get to the Pattaya station you need to deal with any luggage that you have with you, backpack / shoulder bag no be deal, but if you are traveling for a length of time you will probably have a roller bag of some size which will need to be handled until you get to your accommodation. Baht Bus maybe, but most end up having to get another taxi in Pattaya- some call the taxi mafia- which will in the long run reduce your savings by taking a bus.
If you arrange your transportation in advance with a local Taxi Service like Nam's Lady Taxi Drivers the fee is 1000 Bhat (current $28) - they meet you at the airport meeting point and take you to your door in Pattaya- overall I think it is worth it.Absolutely.
I use a VIP taxi service. They pick me up at my gate when my plane arrives. Take me right through immigration with no line. Then into an air conditioned luxury vehicle that drives the speed I want, stops when I want, delivers me to my destination and carries my bags.
Absolutely.
I use a VIP taxi service. They pick me up at my gate when my plane arrives. Take me right through immigration with no line. Then into an air conditioned luxury vehicle that drives the speed I want, stops when I want, delivers me to my destination and carries my bags.Better yet, I use the personal SUPER VIP service that picks me up after plane lands and docks. They come lift me up from my seat and carry me on their shoulders, down the plane's steps, and straight to a private air conditioned station wagon with mattress. If I am hungry, they hand feed me and wipe my mouth with a napkin if needed. I don't need to lift a finger to do anything. How I envy sloths.
GentileBear
08-14-22, 23:45
Hey Rick Rock.
How much. Ballpark wise. Is that service where you get your name on the whiteboard next to the Wheel-Chair airline staff. That escorts you to customs, in a private car, etc. Just curious. Thanks!
Explorer8939
08-15-22, 03:12
Why are Gentlemens Clubs so popular now?
Last night, I was buying drinks for 3 or 4 ladies, when I noticed that I was the last customer in the bar. (It was 1 am). Immediately, the ladies got naked, not just the 3 or 4, but the cashiers and other ladies, as well.
Absolutely.
I use a VIP taxi service. They pick me up at my gate when my plane arrives. Take me right through immigration with no line. Then into an air conditioned luxury vehicle that drives the speed I want, stops when I want, delivers me to my destination and carries my bags.Good day Rick!
I tried to send you a PM, but the mailbox is full it seems. Would you mind sharing the name of the VIP taxi service you use. I know there are many, but using one that is recommended is perfect. The fact they have someone meet you at the gate is awesome!
Best,
Sky.
"Life is a balance between holding on and letting go".
--Rumi.
A lot of ink has been spilled on the post-Covid situation in Thailand, and I think a lot of guys have questions about the situation here. There's no doubt that mongering in Thailand has changed, and my guess is that some of the changes are likely structural in nature, and therefore permanent. That being said, there's still lots of fun to be had here for a certain segment of the monger population.
(By way on (re-) introduction, I'm a long-term expat based in Bangkok. I'm from southern California and cut my teeth mongering in Tijuana, Mexico. I used to post a lot on the Tijuana forums back in the day but stopped posting on this forum when I re-located to Thailand for work about 10 years back. The TL forums back then were not so friendly so I gradually stopped posting / visiting. About a month ago, I was stuck at home in Bangkok due to a Covid isolation requirement, and, being bored shitless, decided to re-visit the TL forums. I'm glad I did and I hope I can offer you some insights).
I will start with some random points and conclude with a few final thoughts for those of you considering a trip. I just returned to Bangkok after a long weekend in Pattaya, my third visit this year.
As others have noted, the center of gravity for mongering in Pattaya has shifted from Beach Road and Walking Street to Soi Buakhow. If you're traveling to Pattaya and want to stay close to the action then my advice is to pick a hotel within a few hundred meters of the central part of Buakhow. That way, you can easily walk to most of the action while still being able to take a Baht bus along Buakhow towards Walking Street or, if you're going to Soi 6, along 2nd Road. Bolt app is also a great option now for Pattaya (for both motorcycles and cars).
The government is clearly trying to re-brand Pattaya as a family resort / convention center hub. As such, they're slowly pushing the mongering back from Beach Road and even back from 2nd Road. A few of the small beer bar complexes between 2nd and Buakhow were victims to this re-development scheme. That being said, new complexes (e. G. Tree Town) have been approved for Buakhow. Out of sight, out of mind, I guess. The big issue they're facing now, it seems to me, is infrastructure: Buakhow is a narrow, winding road without sidewalks and it's getting even more dangerous to walk along it in the evenings. Parking, even for motorbikes, is almost non-existent.
There are a lot of positives to the Buakhow area:
If you're a drinker, the beer is definitely cheaper along here, with many places that serve cheap happy hour specials. There are also a few places (At All, Katesiree) that serve large bottles of local beer at great prices (a large (630 ML) LEO at At All is an unbelievably low 70 THB) and you can sit and watch the world go by on Buakhow.
There are a lot of reasonably prices restaurants (Hungry Hippo, Cheap Charlie's) with good food (especially breakfasts) that are popular with expats and also a number of more expensive places (Beer Hubb). Something for everybody. The Buakhow market / food court area is also a nice place to get cheap Thai food.
The Buakhow area has shaped up to be G-Club central. When I visited over Songkran in April a few clubs were open, but not all. That has now changed and most are now open so I suggest trying Soi Boomerang if you're a fan of G-Clubs. (If you're not familiar with G-Clubs, they're like a more laid-back / quieter version of the Soi 6 bars and everything is indoors).
You're close to massage shops. There are a number of these along Buakhow itself, but the most infamous ones reside adjacent to Buakhow on Second Road Soi 11 (Honey). Most of these shops open by 10 am and by late afternoon they're usually packed with girls sitting outside waiting for customers. If you want a massage with extras, but aren't sure if a shop offers them, then fear not: all massage shops on this soi have exactly what you need.
Buakhow side sois are also worth checking out:
Soi Pothole (Chaiyapoon) is definitely worth a visit although I realize this was not previously the case as many of these places were, in years past, a bit downscale (mainly low-end massage shops and dingy bars in which cheap beer was the main attraction). I never used to give this soi a second glance but things have really changed in the past two years. There are now a lot of nice bars on this soi, many with ST rooms on the premises. It seems to be evolving into a new version of Soi 6, albeit with lower customer beer prices (room prices average about 300 THB; ST averages 1,000 THB; and lady drinks average 150 THB). There are also a couple of decent G-Clubs on this soi: I prefer Maggie Mays to the Den, even though the Den is nicer on the inside, and High Rollers is also very nice inside (although, surprisingly it doesn't open until 6 pm, which is out of character with local G-Clubs). These places are not that expensive, with drink prices that are slightly higher than the surrounding bars and lady drinks about the same. Definitely worth a look (it's worth noting as you get closer to Third Road, past the G-Clubs, many of the bars are LB bars, so tread carefully).
I'll give a special shout-out to Maggie Mays on Soi Pothole. I visited Maggie Mays back in April but was disappointedall girls were occupied and it was / is a place that caters to locals. This is difficult, even when you live in Thailand, because the girls will take a sure thing (one lady drink from a regular guy they know) over somebody they don't know who may / may not buy them multiple drinks and go for "extras". I decided to give it one more try and I'm glad I did. It was crowded again when I went in, but there were plenty of girls outside (a good sign). I just bided my time at the bar until the group of customers (guys who had stopped by after golfing) left. By that time, I had my girl picked out and moved her to one of the couches in the back. Everybody there is very friendly (girls, bar staff, other customers) and quite accommodating. If you want something, just ask. There are curtains that pull around the couches if you want in-bar fun, and also rooms upstairs. My girl said that full service was possible right there on the couch. It's a 200 Baht "couch fee" and a 300 Baht room fee. Prices for the girl are the same. So, as we say in Thailand, it's up to you.
Soi Lengkee is worth a stroll also. There are a couple of beer bars with decent looking women in them (I didn't stop in but later regretted that). There is also La Poste Bar, which is an older G-Club in this area. The talent line up was not the greatest when I last went, but I stopped in for a drink / grope anyway. One of the nice features of this place is that when you buy a girl a drink her top automatically comes down. You can stand at the bar and paw away or move to the couches. I didn't witness any pull curtains around the couches on my most recent trip but I've heard that you can have fun right there in the bar. This is an older bar / club but the rooms upstairs are surprisingly nice, and come fully equipped with tickle feathers / whips / chains etc. (Yes, this was a surprise for me, also. I've not seen that before).
LK Metro
Prior to Covid, I had been through here but never spent much time in any of the bars. There really is a lot of diversity on this soi: everything from an Irish pub with live music to a sports bar to a multi-floor go-go with a stage that drops between the second and first floors (Kink). There are also open-air beer bars with a lot of freelancers in them. One could come to Pattaya for a week, go out every night, and quite literally never have to leave this soi for nightlife options. Definitely worth checking out, doing a bit of bar hopping, and finding a place that you like best. I've not explored every bar but Kink is fun (gets expensive), Billabong is okay for freelancers and outdoor vibe, and I-rovers sports bar has pretty good food and lots of televisions to watch. Pandora's (a small go-go) is also on this soi although it has changed owners and the new management, sadly, does not allow at-the-bar fully-exposed BJs (yes, this really was a thing, and yes, I have participated although I was a bit timid at first).
Soi 6
The Six is still around and I would estimate that approximately three-quarters of the places along there have now re-opened. I tend to visit The Six in the afternoons, so I've not seen it at its wildest as of late. When I did the stroll down from Second Road, there were very few customers but girls everywhere at about 3 pm. I got a lot of attention just for slowly walking along. Expats I have chatted with tend to either love or hate Soi 6. I'm somewhere in the middle. I like the idea, just not what it has evolved into. Nowadays, the vibe seems to be less about using the facilities and more about drinking, loud music, buying shots for the (male) manager (why would I ever do that? And having themed "parties" based on the flimsiest of premises ("Bee's birthday" Maybe I'm too old but it seems like they took a good thing and turned it into a noisy free-for-all while forgetting they are in open-air bars with no door (hence no real secluded area for hands-on fun). The Six, at least to me, has always been about finding a girl who takes your fancy, buying her a drink and doing the squeeze test, and either going upstairs or moving on. The Adelita's of the East, if you will. Alas, no more. So, I tend to stick to the quieter, closed-front bars that operate more in that model. More relaxed ambiance, less pressure, and air conditioning to boot.
One place worth mentioning that is NOT a traditional Soi 6 bar is the Queen Victoria Pub. It's on the left as you're walking towards Beach Road. A nice air-conditioned place to grab a quiet pint in between rounds while you "re-charge" or to fuel up on a breakfast / pub lunch before you get started. I've used it as an oasis from the craziness / pressure to buy girl drinks on Soi 6 on numerous occasions.
Walking Street and Windmill
I didn't spend much here on my trips this year. I've always preferred other areas in Pattaya for mongering, as Walking Street (pre-Covid) very much had a "fish bowl" vibe, with guided tours of Chinese traipsing around and gawking tourists everywhere. I couldn't help but get the feeling, as a middle-aged white guy, that I was part of the tour: "look, there goes another farang monger. ". In any event, with all the fun on Buakhow and surrounding areas I see less and less reason to patronize this area. I visited recently because I went to the Windmill one evening and then walked from Soi Diamond back along Walking Street before heading back to my hotel. It was busier than I expected but nowhere near previous levels. Since most of the people visiting before were observers, not mongers, I've no idea what that means for the mongering scene there. Judging from my experience at the Windmill, it has declined. The Windmill used to have a decent lineup, with two floors of fun going. The upstairs portion was closed off when I visited and, although the downstairs portion still has the "fun" areas at the back (furthest away from the entrance) the lineup of the more "willing" girls at the back was disappointing and not up to its usual standards. I still had a good time, of course, and the old wild vibe is still there with guys having on-stage fun, girls doing shower shows etc. But quality has slipped, and I hope they manage to bring it back.
Final thoughts
A very long post, and for those of you outside Thailand I hope I've managed to shed some light on the situation here. Overall, it's not back to (pre-Covid) normal and my sense is it never will be. There are a lot of places that are still closed and will likely not open again and it will be a long time before Thailand sees 2019 numbers of tourists. We may have to let the previous idealized view of Pattaya / Thailand go. That being said, there are still countless options--more than one guy can ever review in one post--and I think most guys can find something they are interested in here.
So, if you're a returnee considering a trip, my advice is to go for it. If you plan your trip around the Buakhow area you'll still have a lot of fun and be right in the thick of things. If you're a first-timer, I still say it's worth it but read the forums and watch a few YouTube videos just to make sure it will meet your expectations. If you want to play it safe, delay your trip a few months and visit over the new year holiday (or even in the new year). By then, we'll be in high season and have a better understanding of what that means, for Pattaya and for Thailand.
I'll try to keep posting for Pattaya and Bangkok with shorter reviews of other areas in Bangkok / trips to Pattaya (I'm hanging out more in Jomtien these days). In the interim, happy mongering!
Explorer8939
08-15-22, 05:29
I agree with that long post about Pattaya 100%.
Maybe Pattaya is still not up to pre-Covid levels, but there are more than enough bars and ladies.
It's 1000 times bigger than the Tijuana bars.
Nuttin Serious
08-15-22, 06:10
"Life is a balance between holding on and letting go".
--Rumi.Thanks for the write up, that's a really helpful snapshot of the place.
MartinFlevo
08-15-22, 06:57
Why are Gentlemens Clubs so popular now?
Last night, I was buying drinks for 3 or 4 ladies, when I noticed that I was the last customer in the bar. (It was 1 am). Immediately, the ladies got naked, not just the 3 or 4, but the cashiers and other ladies, as well.Seems we need more details.
Dion Cassius
08-15-22, 13:32
"Life is a balance between holding on and letting go".
--Rumi.
A lot of ink has been spilled on the post-Covid situation in Thailand, and I think a lot of guys have questions about the situation here. There's no doubt that mongering in Thailand has changed, and my guess is that some of the changes are likely structural in nature, and therefore permanent. That being said, there's still lots of fun to be had here for a certain segment of the monger population.
(By way on (re-) introduction, I'm a long-term expat based in Bangkok. I'm from southern California and cut my teeth mongering in Tijuana, Mexico. I used to post a lot on the Tijuana forums back in the day but stopped posting on this forum when I re-located to Thailand for work about 10 years back. The TL forums back then were not so friendly so I gradually stopped posting / visiting. About a month ago, I was stuck at home in Bangkok due to a Covid isolation requirement, and, being bored shitless, decided to re-visit the TL forums. I'm glad I did and I hope I can offer you some insights).
I will start with some random points and conclude with a few final thoughts for those of you considering a trip. I just returned to Bangkok after a long weekend in Pattaya, my third visit this year.
As others have noted, the center of gravity for mongering in Pattaya has shifted from Beach Road and Walking Street to Soi Buakhow. If you're traveling to Pattaya and want to stay close to the action then my advice is to pick a hotel within a few hundred meters of the central part of Buakhow. That way, you can easily walk to most of the action while still being able to take a Baht bus along Buakhow towards Walking Street or, if you're going to Soi 6, along 2nd Road. Bolt app is also a great option now for Pattaya (for both motorcycles and cars).
The government is clearly trying to re-brand Pattaya as a family resort / convention center hub. As such, they're slowly pushing the mongering back from Beach Road and even back from 2nd Road. A few of the small beer bar complexes between 2nd and Buakhow were victims to this re-development scheme. That being said, new complexes (e. G. Tree Town) have been approved for Buakhow. Out of sight, out of mind, I guess. The big issue they're facing now, it seems to me, is infrastructure: Buakhow is a narrow, winding road without sidewalks and it's getting even more dangerous to walk along it in the evenings. Parking, even for motorbikes, is almost non-existent.
There are a lot of positives to the Buakhow area:
If you're a drinker, the beer is definitely cheaper along here, with many places that serve cheap happy hour specials. There are also a few places (At All, Katesiree) that serve large bottles of local beer at great prices (a large (630 ML) LEO at At All is an unbelievably low 70 THB) and you can sit and watch the world go by on Buakhow.
There are a lot of reasonably prices restaurants (Hungry Hippo, Cheap Charlie's) with good food (especially breakfasts) that are popular with expats and also a number of more expensive places (Beer Hubb). Something for everybody. The Buakhow market / food court area is also a nice place to get cheap Thai food.
The Buakhow area has shaped up to be G-Club central. When I visited over Songkran in April a few clubs were open, but not all. That has now changed and most are now open so I suggest trying Soi Boomerang if you're a fan of G-Clubs. (If you're not familiar with G-Clubs, they're like a more laid-back / quieter version of the Soi 6 bars and everything is indoors).
You're close to massage shops. There are a number of these along Buakhow itself, but the most infamous ones reside adjacent to Buakhow on Second Road Soi 11 (Honey). Most of these shops open by 10 am and by late afternoon they're usually packed with girls sitting outside waiting for customers. If you want a massage with extras, but aren't sure if a shop offers them, then fear not: all massage shops on this soi have exactly what you need.
Buakhow side sois are also worth checking out:
Soi Pothole (Chaiyapoon) is definitely worth a visit although I realize this was not previously the case as many of these places were, in years past, a bit downscale (mainly low-end massage shops and dingy bars in which cheap beer was the main attraction). I never used to give this soi a second glance but things have really changed in the past two years. There are now a lot of nice bars on this soi, many with ST rooms on the premises. It seems to be evolving into a new version of Soi 6, albeit with lower customer beer prices (room prices average about 300 THB; ST averages 1,000 THB; and lady drinks average 150 THB). There are also a couple of decent G-Clubs on this soi: I prefer Maggie Mays to the Den, even though the Den is nicer on the inside, and High Rollers is also very nice inside (although, surprisingly it doesn't open until 6 pm, which is out of character with local G-Clubs). These places are not that expensive, with drink prices that are slightly higher than the surrounding bars and lady drinks about the same. Definitely worth a look (it's worth noting as you get closer to Third Road, past the G-Clubs, many of the bars are LB bars, so tread carefully).
I'll give a special shout-out to Maggie Mays on Soi Pothole. I visited Maggie Mays back in April but was disappointedall girls were occupied and it was / is a place that caters to locals. This is difficult, even when you live in Thailand, because the girls will take a sure thing (one lady drink from a regular guy they know) over somebody they don't know who may / may not buy them multiple drinks and go for "extras". I decided to give it one more try and I'm glad I did. It was crowded again when I went in, but there were plenty of girls outside (a good sign). I just bided my time at the bar until the group of customers (guys who had stopped by after golfing) left. By that time, I had my girl picked out and moved her to one of the couches in the back. Everybody there is very friendly (girls, bar staff, other customers) and quite accommodating. If you want something, just ask. There are curtains that pull around the couches if you want in-bar fun, and also rooms upstairs. My girl said that full service was possible right there on the couch. It's a 200 Baht "couch fee" and a 300 Baht room fee. Prices for the girl are the same. So, as we say in Thailand, it's up to you.
Soi Lengkee is worth a stroll also. There are a couple of beer bars with decent looking women in them (I didn't stop in but later regretted that). There is also La Poste Bar, which is an older G-Club in this area. The talent line up was not the greatest when I last went, but I stopped in for a drink / grope anyway. One of the nice features of this place is that when you buy a girl a drink her top automatically comes down. You can stand at the bar and paw away or move to the couches. I didn't witness any pull curtains around the couches on my most recent trip but I've heard that you can have fun right there in the bar. This is an older bar / club but the rooms upstairs are surprisingly nice, and come fully equipped with tickle feathers / whips / chains etc. (Yes, this was a surprise for me, also. I've not seen that before).
LK Metro
Prior to Covid, I had been through here but never spent much time in any of the bars. There really is a lot of diversity on this soi: everything from an Irish pub with live music to a sports bar to a multi-floor go-go with a stage that drops between the second and first floors (Kink). There are also open-air beer bars with a lot of freelancers in them. One could come to Pattaya for a week, go out every night, and quite literally never have to leave this soi for nightlife options. Definitely worth checking out, doing a bit of bar hopping, and finding a place that you like best. I've not explored every bar but Kink is fun (gets expensive), Billabong is okay for freelancers and outdoor vibe, and I-rovers sports bar has pretty good food and lots of televisions to watch. Pandora's (a small go-go) is also on this soi although it has changed owners and the new management, sadly, does not allow at-the-bar fully-exposed BJs (yes, this really was a thing, and yes, I have participated although I was a bit timid at first).
Soi 6
The Six is still around and I would estimate that approximately three-quarters of the places along there have now re-opened. I tend to visit The Six in the afternoons, so I've not seen it at its wildest as of late. When I did the stroll down from Second Road, there were very few customers but girls everywhere at about 3 pm. I got a lot of attention just for slowly walking along. Expats I have chatted with tend to either love or hate Soi 6. I'm somewhere in the middle. I like the idea, just not what it has evolved into. Nowadays, the vibe seems to be less about using the facilities and more about drinking, loud music, buying shots for the (male) manager (why would I ever do that? And having themed "parties" based on the flimsiest of premises ("Bee's birthday" Maybe I'm too old but it seems like they took a good thing and turned it into a noisy free-for-all while forgetting they are in open-air bars with no door (hence no real secluded area for hands-on fun). The Six, at least to me, has always been about finding a girl who takes your fancy, buying her a drink and doing the squeeze test, and either going upstairs or moving on. The Adelita's of the East, if you will. Alas, no more. So, I tend to stick to the quieter, closed-front bars that operate more in that model. More relaxed ambiance, less pressure, and air conditioning to boot.
One place worth mentioning that is NOT a traditional Soi 6 bar is the Queen Victoria Pub. It's on the left as you're walking towards Beach Road. A nice air-conditioned place to grab a quiet pint in between rounds while you "re-charge" or to fuel up on a breakfast / pub lunch before you get started. I've used it as an oasis from the craziness / pressure to buy girl drinks on Soi 6 on numerous occasions.
Walking Street and Windmill
I didn't spend much here on my trips this year. I've always preferred other areas in Pattaya for mongering, as Walking Street (pre-Covid) very much had a "fish bowl" vibe, with guided tours of Chinese traipsing around and gawking tourists everywhere. I couldn't help but get the feeling, as a middle-aged white guy, that I was part of the tour: "look, there goes another farang monger. ". In any event, with all the fun on Buakhow and surrounding areas I see less and less reason to patronize this area. I visited recently because I went to the Windmill one evening and then walked from Soi Diamond back along Walking Street before heading back to my hotel. It was busier than I expected but nowhere near previous levels. Since most of the people visiting before were observers, not mongers, I've no idea what that means for the mongering scene there. Judging from my experience at the Windmill, it has declined. The Windmill used to have a decent lineup, with two floors of fun going. The upstairs portion was closed off when I visited and, although the downstairs portion still has the "fun" areas at the back (furthest away from the entrance) the lineup of the more "willing" girls at the back was disappointing and not up to its usual standards. I still had a good time, of course, and the old wild vibe is still there with guys having on-stage fun, girls doing shower shows etc. But quality has slipped, and I hope they manage to bring it back.
Final thoughts
A very long post, and for those of you outside Thailand I hope I've managed to shed some light on the situation here. Overall, it's not back to (pre-Covid) normal and my sense is it never will be. There are a lot of places that are still closed and will likely not open again and it will be a long time before Thailand sees 2019 numbers of tourists. We may have to let the previous idealized view of Pattaya / Thailand go. That being said, there are still countless options--more than one guy can ever review in one post--and I think most guys can find something they are interested in here.
So, if you're a returnee considering a trip, my advice is to go for it. If you plan your trip around the Buakhow area you'll still have a lot of fun and be right in the thick of things. If you're a first-timer, I still say it's worth it but read the forums and watch a few YouTube videos just to make sure it will meet your expectations. If you want to play it safe, delay your trip a few months and visit over the new year holiday (or even in the new year). By then, we'll be in high season and have a better understanding of what that means, for Pattaya and for Thailand.
I'll try to keep posting for Pattaya and Bangkok with shorter reviews of other areas in Bangkok / trips to Pattaya (I'm hanging out more in Jomtien these days). In the interim, happy mongering!This is an excellent and very informative post! Many thanks 👍.
KrisMonger
08-15-22, 13:43
Good day Rick!
I tried to send you a PM, but the mailbox is full it seems. Would you mind sharing the name of the VIP taxi service you use. I know there are many, but using one that is recommended is perfect. The fact they have someone meet you at the gate is awesome!
Best,
Sky.I can only think of First class Bangkok service (Google search gets you the result) that I had used prior to Covid that offers this along with the VIP Fast track service. Looks like the airport itself is back to offering the fast track service. If you don't care about the cost -this definitely saves you quite some time.
"Life is a balance between holding on and letting go".
--Rumi.
A lot of ink has been spilled on the post-Covid situation in Thailand, and I think a lot of guys have questions about the situation here. There's no doubt that mongering in Thailand has changed, and my guess is that some of the changes are likely structural in nature, and therefore permanent. That being said, there's still lots of fun to be had here for a certain segment of the monger population.
(By way on (re-) introduction, I'm a long-term expat based in Bangkok. I'm from southern California and cut my teeth mongering in Tijuana, Mexico. I used to post a lot on the Tijuana forums back in the day but stopped posting on this forum when I re-located to Thailand for work about 10 years back. The TL forums back then were not so friendly so I gradually stopped posting / visiting. About a month ago, I was stuck at home in Bangkok due to a Covid isolation requirement, and, being bored shitless, decided to re-visit the TL forums. I'm glad I did and I hope I can offer you some insights).
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I'll try to keep posting for Pattaya and Bangkok with shorter reviews of other areas in Bangkok / trips to Pattaya (I'm hanging out more in Jomtien these days). In the interim, happy mongering!Though I only hobby in Phuket, I wanted to take time to thank you for providing a valuable report. It is refreshing to see a member spend their personal time helping others.
Thanks for the post. As a returnee, noted the details. Definitely helpful.
-JizzyB.
"Life is a balance between holding on and letting go".
--Rumi.
A lot of ink has been spilled on the post-Covid situation in Thailand, and I think a lot of guys have questions about the situation here. There's no doubt that mongering in Thailand has changed, and my guess is that some of the changes are likely structural in nature, and therefore permanent. That being said, there's still lots of fun to be had here for a certain segment of the monger population.
(By way on (re-) introduction, I'm a long-term expat based in Bangkok. I'm from southern California and cut my teeth mongering in Tijuana, Mexico. I used to post a lot on the Tijuana forums back in the day but stopped posting on this forum when I re-located to Thailand for work about 10 years back. The TL forums back then were not so friendly so I gradually stopped posting / visiting. About a month ago, I was stuck at home in Bangkok due to a Covid isolation requirement, and, being bored shitless, decided to re-visit the TL forums. I'm glad I did and I hope I can offer you some insights).
Must be an awesome view. Drooling.
Please name the GC.
Why are Gentlemens Clubs so popular now?
Last night, I was buying drinks for 3 or 4 ladies, when I noticed that I was the last customer in the bar. (It was 1 am). Immediately, the ladies got naked, not just the 3 or 4, but the cashiers and other ladies, as well.
Better yet, I use the personal SUPER VIP service that picks me up after plane lands and docks. They come lift me up from my seat and carry me on their shoulders, down the plane's steps, and straight to a private air conditioned station wagon with mattress. If I am hungry, they hand feed me and wipe my mouth with a napkin if needed. I don't need to lift a finger to do anything. How I envy sloths.Hey, we don't all have the moral fortitude and intellectual integrity required for standing in line at a crowded airport with a stinky sweat covered backpack over our shoulder. Glad you're there to keep the flame alive!
"Life is a balance between holding on and letting go".
--Rumi.
A lot of ink has been spilled on the post-Coattaya (I'm hanging out more in Jomtien these days). In the interim, happy mongering!Great report! I'm arriving in early September; staying at Areca Lodge first time. We used to stay at LK Empress on Beach Road, but as well noted, not much action on Beach or Second Road these days. We've concentrated on the LK Metro area for several years now. Billabong in the past had some great older freelancers and Sugar-Sugar had the hottest girls, IMHO.
We may go to WS once in the whole stay. Soi Pothole looks like my kind of Soi; small, seedy bars. Tree Town looks a little too bright and glitzy, but we'll give it a walk, I'm sure. Soi 6 is always an adventure, but can be pricy. Buy one girl a drink and before you know it, you've bought all the girls drinks.
One area that was not covered is "Soi Boomerang". What is the vibe there? Looks to be mostly "Club" type venues with only a few outdoor bars.
Been looking at hotels in Pattaya and seem all the 5 stars I'm looking at are in one area -royal cliffs, intercont, monttra, avani etc and seem to be ridiculously cheap!!
Hows that area to stay in? Access into town and all the action areas?
Or is there a better area to stay "closer" to action?
Thanks great people of the forum.
Christian G
08-15-22, 22:02
Been looking at hotels in Pattaya and seem all the 5 stars I'm looking at are in one area -royal cliffs, intercont, monttra, avani etc and seem to be ridiculously cheap!!
Hows that area to stay in? Access into town and all the action areas?
Or is there a better area to stay "closer" to action?
Thanks great people of the forum.It depends on what you are looking for. I love to stay in Pratamnak / Cozy beach area because is super quiet, and just 5 min motorbike to the town. Rent a motorbike or use Bolt app if you want to stay there.
Anyway Avani is in Central Pattaya not on the hill https://www.avanihotels.com/en/pattaya/contact.
Explorer8939
08-15-22, 23:12
Been looking at hotels in Pattaya and seem all the 5 stars I'm looking at are in one area -royal cliffs, intercont, monttra, avani etc and seem to be ridiculously cheap!!
Hows that area to stay in? Access into town and all the action areas?
Or is there a better area to stay "closer" to action?
Thanks great people of the forum.If only there were a topic here about hotels in Pattaya. Then you could read it.
Explorer8939
08-15-22, 23:13
Must be an awesome view. Drooling.
Please name the GC.I was in Maggie Mays on Soi Chaiyapoon.
Explorer8939
08-15-22, 23:16
Seems we need more details.There is a policy at Maggie Mays that if you buy a lady 4 tequilas, she has to get naked. I had forgotten about it, until the ladies with me got naked. And then the other ladies followed suit.
Mongering1
08-16-22, 02:05
After a week here so far, I'll try to describe the pros and cons from previous visits.
Pros.
Bolt app for ride-sharing.
Cons.
Higher prices.
Seriously though, the price structure is complicated to say the least. An example was when I was at a bar on Soi 6 (Love Missile?) I got 3 very different prices for a barfine from the lady, mommy and the manager. It seems like it depends on the time of day if you want long time. So bottom line at this bar is the long time barfine is 2,000 Bhat before either 5 or 8 or 6 and some random price after 3 or 11. Short time? Understand?
I haven't been to a soapy yet, but if that isn't up to par, I'll be finished with Thailand.
I haven't been on Walking Street yet due to my current sleep pattern, but I'm not getting my hopes up due to all the talk about how most ladies won't barfine at all.
I'm here on a pretty decent budget, so the higher prices is not my main gripe, it's the guessing game on which ladies will go and at what price.
I know this report is a bit on the negative side, but maybe I haven't found my groove yet.
My legit massage plans are working out, 4 hours a day average so far.
Mr Enternational
08-16-22, 02:58
I haven't been on Walking Street yet due to my current sleep pattern, but I'm not getting my hopes up due to all the talk about how most ladies won't barfine at all. I'm here on a pretty decent budget, so the higher prices is not my main gripe, it's the guessing game on which ladies will go and at what price. I know this report is a bit on the negative side, but maybe I haven't found my groove yet.So why not get a freelancer instead of investing your hope and money into a middle man, aka barfine?
Mongering1
08-16-22, 05:04
That is on my list as well. I had fantastic results in Cambodia, but I never tried here yet. I'm not even going with the apps. I've seen plenty of freelancers around Tree Town and of course the beach. A couple of guys I've been talking to said that Ibar / Insomnia looked really good.
Google Translate has been a great help this trip!
So why not get a freelancer instead of investing your hope and money into a middle man, aka barfine?
The intra-BKK part usually takes a lot of time due to BKK traffic. A workaround is to get off at first BTS stop and take the BTS from there. Saves a lot of time.You can only do that if you only have carry-on luggage, and nothing in the luggage compartment at the bottom of the bus.
I definitely will not take a bus from Pattaya to Bangkok City or the reverse anymore. I did that once and it took 5 hours.5 hours is very unusual. That has happened to me only once since 2005, when I first came to Pattaya.
It usually takes around 2 to 2.5 hours, maybe more on Fridays and Sundays.
Personally I don't mind taking the bus, even though it's a boring ride between BKK and Pattaya. I don't own a car, so I'm used to taking public transport (in my home country). And beside that I feel saver in a big bus than in a small taxi in the crazy Thai traffic. And the bus drivers are usually less aggressive drivers than the average taxi driver.
I only take a taxi to the airport when my plane is leaving late at night, or very early in the morning, and there's no bus or train service anymore.
5 hours is very unusual. That has happened to me only once since 2005, when I first came to Pattaya.
It usually takes around 2 to 2.5 hours, maybe more on Fridays and Sundays.
Personally I don't mind taking the bus, even though it's a boring ride between BKK and Pattaya. I don't own a car, so I'm used to taking public transport (in my home country). And beside that I feel saver in a big bus than in a small taxi in the crazy Thai traffic. And the bus drivers are usually less aggressive drivers than the average taxi driver.
I only take a taxi to the airport when my plane is leaving late at night, or very early in the morning, and there's no bus or train service anymore.I took the bus from Ekkamai to Pattaya this past Sunday and it was excellent. Absolutely no traffic in Sukhumvit getting out of Bangkok, the whole ride was less than two hours.
Overall, I don't get the bickering about taking the bus, it costs only $4! The money you save by taking the bus over a taxi equates to an ST session, that's how I look at it.
After a week here so far, I'll try to describe the pros and cons from previous visits.
Pros.
Bolt app for ride-sharing.
Cons.
Higher prices.
Seriously though, the price structure is complicated to say the least. An example was when I was at a bar on Soi 6 (Love Missile?) I got 3 very different prices for a barfine from the lady, mommy and the manager. It seems like it depends on the time of day if you want long time. So bottom line at this bar is the long time barfine is 2,000 Bhat before either 5 or 8 or 6 and some random price after 3 or 11. Short time? Understand?.I'm currently here and having a good time, but indeed prices are higher for everything, but if you're a true cheap charlie you'll find deals whether it's on hotels, girls or food.
One extremely annoying thing I've noticed, any massage I get (foot, oil, Thai etc.), the masseuse spends the whole massage complaining about money and how difficult times are. It's really annoying to deal with, like I'm trying to enjoy a massage but I'm getting bombarded with negative vibes. It's a good reminder when in Pattaya, the only thing anyone wants from you in Pattaya is your money and extracting as much of it from you as possible. In response to that, always have a sa bai sa bai attitude and enjoy your vacation / mongering.
You can only do that if you only have carry-on luggage, and nothing in the luggage compartment at the bottom of the bus.True but I usually don't carry around a suitcase if it can be avoided LOL. Better get a point-to-point taxi then, it's cheap, just 1 k to Suvarnabhumi 1200 to Bangkok.
If only there were a topic here about hotels in Pattaya. Then you could read it.Sometime it is not difficult, if one is not too full of himself and reads the forum in general.
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?1875-Pattaya-Hotels
Big Sabbal
08-16-22, 11:21
Wish to know can Indian rupee exchanged into Thai Baht in Pattaya?
Pre covid it was possible.
Big Sabbal
08-16-22, 11:33
Can Indian rupee exchanged in Pattaya?
True but I usually don't carry around a suitcase if it can be avoided LOL. Better get a point-to-point taxi then, it's cheap, just 1 k to Suvarnabhumi 1200 to Bangkok.Yea really. If you don't have 1000 Baht for a taxi ride you should stay home.
JasonSilva
08-16-22, 17:52
Wish to know can Indian rupee exchanged into Thai Baht in Pattaya?
Pre covid it was possible.Yes, of course.
Indians are pretty much running the Pattaya economy for now. There are TT exchanges in every 500 meters where you can get INR exchanged. There are many other outlets too. Ask any Indian hotel, he may tell you the best exchange place.
Am I the only one who feels uneasy about being in a bus on the elevated highway around Bangkok? The parapet walls on either side would be high enough to prevent a swerving car from toppling over. A bus would most likely fall down the 20-meter drop and kill everyone. A bus on those highways is as dangerous as a bus in the Chilean Andes.
Yea really. If you don't have 1000 Baht for a taxi ride you should stay home.So true. I often have to remind my buddies when they first come to Thailand how cheap the taxis are especially when they insist on taking the 10 baht bus. It's better to ride in the 100-150-200 baht SUV Toyota taxis in Pattaya with air conditioning. Quit being cheap and using the 10 baht bus. I'd like to add if you don't have 100 baht to tip mamasan, or 450 baht for a ladies tequila and Coke combo, or 20 baht to tip the money exchange booth, or 50 baht to tip the cigarette magician on WS, or 180 baht for pad Thai at the mall but choose the cheap 50 baht one on the street cart, or any extra baht when you hear the words "tip for me," you should just stay home. Forget Thailand. How dare these weekend millionaires and expats come here and go cheap by renting motorbikes, using public transportation, and eating street food.
Oneminuteboy
08-16-22, 19:13
Can Indian rupee exchanged in Pattaya?No need to double post within 15 min.
Miss MaryHinge
08-16-22, 20:05
As this island seems so close. And since this trip won't afford me any other island visit. I'm thinking of giving it a side trip.
Question is, any action on the island or better to take a lady?
Am I the only one who feels uneasy about being in a bus on the elevated highway around Bangkok? The parapet walls on either side would be high enough to prevent a swerving car from toppling over. A bus would most likely fall down the 20-meter drop and kill everyone. A bus on those highways is as dangerous as a bus in the Chilean Andes.Crosses my mind everytime I'm on the bus.
Overall, Thai roads are unsafe, recently ranked the second deadliest in the world. Now whether it's safer to be on a big bus or a taxi, I don't know.
I'm in Pattaya and wanting to checkout Koh Chang. It's about a four hour taxi ride from here. Given the risky nature of Thai roads I thought better of it and will fly instead at some point.
Explorer8939
08-17-22, 01:29
As this island seems so close. And since this trip won't afford me any other island visit. I'm thinking of giving it a side trip.
Question is, any action on the island or better to take a lady?Always take a lady to Koh Larn.
GentleSapien
08-17-22, 03:30
Yea really. If you don't have 1000 Baht for a taxi ride you should stay home.I think most will agree for 500 to 600 bhat. If there is any app to find double share person. No such apps?
Mr Enternational
08-17-22, 03:34
One extremely annoying thing I've noticed, any massage I get (foot, oil, Thai etc.), the masseuse spends the whole massage complaining about money and how difficult times are.I usually have my tablet and headphones with me. But use some game. Tell them you understand and that the reason you are in Thailand is because you could no longer afford to be in your own country because things are so expensive after covid. I am quick to holler out pang makE even if it is the cheapest little thing.
Banana Boi
08-17-22, 05:02
Yes this is a real bus en route to Pattaya.
Yea really. If you don't have 1000 Baht for a taxi ride you should stay home.So not true.
So true. I often have to remind my buddies when they first come to Thailand how cheap the taxis are especially when they insist on taking the 10 baht bus. It's better to ride in the 100-150-200 baht SUV Toyota taxis in Pattaya with air conditioning. Quit being cheap and using the 10 baht bus. I'd like to add if you don't have 100 baht to tip mamasan, or 450 baht for a ladies tequila and Coke combo, or 20 baht to tip the money exchange booth, or 50 baht to tip the cigarette magician on WS, or 180 baht for pad Thai at the mall but choose the cheap 50 baht one on the street cart, or any extra baht when you hear the words "tip for me," you should just stay home. Forget Thailand. How dare these weekend millionaires and expats come here and go cheap by renting motorbikes, using public transportation, and eating street food.So not true. I think for most of us it's just a matter of choice, not a matter of budget. Let everyone decide for themselves what they spend their money on. Hell, even if a monger wants to sleep on the beach to save some bucks, who are we to judge him?
As this island seems so close. And since this trip won't afford me any other island visit. I'm thinking of giving it a side trip.
Question is, any action on the island or better to take a lady?Rather go elsewhere, the island is filthy and overcrowded. Once was enough for me. Take your lady further down the coastline, there is an island, name escapes me, leave at sparrow fart you will need the entire day for any activity time on the island.
One extremely annoying thing I've noticed, any massage I get (foot, oil, Thai etc.), the masseuse spends the whole massage complaining about money and how difficult times are. It's really annoying to deal with, like I'm trying to enjoy a massage but I'm getting bombarded with negative vibes.Put some music in your phone, take it with you and put the head set on when you start the massage and she'll not talk with you (if you're doing the foot massage).
'm in Pattaya and wanting to checkout Koh Chang. It's about a four hour taxi ride from here. Given the risky nature of Thai roads I thought better of it and will fly instead at some point.I'm here too and I also have wanted to see Koh Chang. I've been told Koh Chang is pretty much closed down this time of year due to rain. Instead I'll be revisiting Phuket. But a 4 hour bus ride seems scary to me as well.
LittleBigMan
08-17-22, 13:13
I've been driving in Thailand for nearly twenty years, particularly from Pattaya to the north. I've hired van drivers at times to take me north and to the airport. During covid during the lockdown on travel, I've even smuggled myself and hitched a ride with a moving trucker who was a neighbor to get back to my family so I could pick up my vehicle and family.
I've used taxis to and from Pattaya to the airport and back, I've used the government large bus, minibus, and their van service that is mainly used by locals to and from Pattaya down Sukhumvit through Bang Na, to Bangkok whenever the Bus schedule wasn't accommodating to my schedule last time 2021 summer when bus service was still closed and I needed to get to Bangkok for my Pfizer vaccine shots. You name it I most likely have used it. Of course, I've used the motorbike taxis often in Pattaya and in Bangkok.
Although I have a number of vehicles here in Pattaya, I mainly use my motorbike there was a time I logged in 70 plus KM, a day around town. In all those years I guess I've seen at least 50 accidents, and half a dozen dead, the majority of them were on motorbikes. There have been a couple of times sitting with the family at an intersection to clear a number of times I would suddenly blur out look here comes an accident been told I could spot it before it even happens.
Years ago I took the Bus from Pattaya Nua / Ekammai twice a week, then after my BB game, I would shower, jump on a motorbike taxi in Bangkok Soi 15, and rush me back to Ekammai before the last bus back to Pattaya. When Bell bus started operation it was only 150 baht, prior to Covid it was at 250 baht, which all the years of operation going from Pattaya to the Airport never rod, travel that got into an accident nor was the driver reckless. All their buses have sensor if they travel faster than 90 KM / H. This is consistent with the government bus that runs out of Pattaya on Soi Nua to Ekammai both services have an attendant that rides shotgun with the driver. On the government bus going and coming it can make a number of stops to drop off locals prior to entering Bangkok and Pattaya, if so you tell the attendant where you want to get off. During heavy traffic hours in Bangkok I tell these days I want to get off Odom Suk, then walk up to the BTS to get to my final destination. During heavy hours this can save you 30 minutes if not more just from that location to Nana. This is the same if you are on a bus coming back to Pattaya and need to make stops in Chon Buri, Sriracha.
In all the years of using the government bus it has never taken 5 hours for me max has been 3. 5 once or twice returning to Pattaya, then highway construction and also road construction on Sukhumvit in Chon Buri. The worse was a few years ago maybe why the 5 hours they were starting to build and construct all the toll booths in Chon Buri at the same time they wanted once again to widen Hwy 7. The government bus people are pretty good I noticed they found a new path to Bangkok the last time it was pretty standard of 2 hours 15 minutes to Udom Suk. Coming back is really a crab shoot you know when the attendants walking up and down the aisle basically asking if anyone needs to stop at? If you don't see anyone getting her attention cross your finger it might be direct.
In all those years and I do read up on all the accidents daily, in 20 years I could only remember one accident by the government bus it ran into a toll booth in Bang Na, many of the Vans running to and from Pattaya to Bangkok usually also have a shotgun rider usually a family member like the wife. This Van service is also owned and run by the same government bus people. Only once did I get on one of their buses and noticed that the shocks were gone otherwise they seem to be maintained.
As noted, it is an individual choice I've done both for myself if you have luggage and arrive at a late hour forget it just budget it into your trip. As for hiring Van drivers to take you to far locations I suggest trying to find someone who recommends that service and can confirm the driver habits this is where in general at times you read about these so call accidents people are talking about when these drivers push their limits you got to watch them and make sure they are well rested and have lots of M-150 in their system. They will stop as often as you like you are paying for it.
I love taking the bus into Bangkok and back whenever I need to make a visit business at Embassy or elsewhere. I've met a lot of locals and visitors using the service and enjoy it many of you are afraid of using the service, particularly the bus just isn't there with Bell or Government. The problem is the tourist buses the double deckers!
Taxis, downstairs at the Airport, you should easily be able to catch and pay one 1500 baht, they might start talking about charging extra per bag and toll, the toll is only 105 baht. If you want to save some money and just have a backpack you might stand at the machine for the taxi and hit up another traveler looking and split the fare the large vehicle used are the Toyota Fortuner basically a SUV, 2000 baht, you need a Van 2500. Don't be afraid to counter but don't counter with something stupid.
When you hired someone just tell them nicely slow and safely I've never had a stupid reply or I need to tell the guy to stop! Good luck people!
StLouisMo2010
08-17-22, 20:16
I had the opportunity to return to Thailand in Mid-May until Mid-June of 2022 after all the Testing restrictions were cancelled, just prior to the operating hour changes (which meant very little) were abandoned. Over the years I have been to Thailand 8 times (1974-2019) so I have familiarity with the country and my last few trips have been predominantly to Pattaya / Jomtien. I am American, just retired business type which allowed me to have an extended stay.
I have read the Forum daily for years- finding it quite informative and a good guide from especially those on the ground living in Pattaya. Based on information gleaned from the Forum I have traveled as a Tourist who enjoys ladies, not a monger.
Therefore, this Report may be helpful to Newbies, and it is also an update for future and experienced travelers.
How is it: I found Pattaya / Jomtien had recovered about 75% from Covid- physically. There are a lot of stores, restaurants, attractions, hotels, which have not opened- some in good repair, most not. The people had a very hard time with the pandemic, many are still hungry, most have lost all their savings if they had any, but there is optimism or a way to ignore their plight as they enter the rainy season and hope for the best "high season" in history next year.
Some acquaintances ask why I return Thailand via that awful long airplane trip. Well a few thoughts and reasons: in Thailand- no one cares what I look like (prior descriptions of visitors are accurate), the weather, the food is good and cheap, no car is needed as taxi, bus and Baht Bus (10 Baht) can easily move you from one point to another easily, accommodations are varied and inexpensive, there is quite a bit to do, but I do recommend establishing a routine for your day. Get into a routine- can't drink all the time- walk, swim, eat, keep up with paperwork, computer, world events, foot massage, afternoon session, tourist attractions, breakfast, walks.
People watching is a major thing to do, and language is easy to get by with English.
Costs are very reasonable for local products and services. Imported products are expensive- but not really needed.
Money- is easy to calculate, easy to convert anywhere- change money at airport- lowest level, exit 10- use elevators- signs for Train but the overall difference from one Change Place to another is not that great. ATM machines are all over the place and easy to use.
I also like the Thai people, but they don't smile as much as they should or as they are purported to be. As elsewhere, some are good looking- many are plain, and hard-working individuals. Has the quality of ladies gone down hill over the years- I doubt it, but not all the ladies are great looking it is a matter of prospective of who you are, what can you get where you live, how much will you pay to be with that individual- home or in Thailand.
I have personally found that there are ladies of all ages, sizes, shapes, and colors available. I found that the younger ladies have more silicone, more tattoos, more colored hair, and less sense than more mature ladies.
Ladies can be found everywhere in summary; I found the following:
Soi 6- the famous street of about 15 Brothels with lots of young low class, tattooed girls begging for customers from the front of the bars closest to the street (walking) - this is not my style at all, so I just look.
LK Meto- an upcoming group of bars, clubs, Go Go's, gentlemen's clubs, mostly European customers, easy to be a customer, good vibe, some freelancers, service workers are all available for rent, worth a visit.
Tree Town- near by new grouping of upscale beer bars, seemed to be more service workers than European customers but that may have been the time of night- may be more freelancers than elsewhere, worth a visit.
Past.
Walking Street-about 50%+ of pre-covid experience, mostly Indian men with a representation of Europeans. Gogo's I went to only had Europeans, I spoke with the manager of one club who indicated that the Indian crowd does not spend well or at all, therefore they are not welcome, but there are some Indian establishments which are jam packed. Lots of road and building construction which needs to be cleaned up eventually. I spoke with a Club Manager who related his thinking that Walking Street will not be "back" as it was before, before next October / November. The Manager related that the cost of $200 US round trip India- Bangkok is motivating this surge in Indian tourism- ra ra.
Windmill Gogo- everything ever written is true about this Gogo, lots of girls, doing lots of things including naked shower, pussy dive, mostly all in good taste or taste good- the quality of the girls was high, however not as high as expected- Windmill did even have several "heavyweight girls" and some I would not be interested in, each to their own. Note draught beer- 80 Baht before 10:00 pm- not bad for the show which can be had just by going in the door, lady drinks about 150 Baht I think, maybe a little higher but not outlandish and they open the door for a lot of attention.
Dollhouse- quiet, about 20 girls- many 5-6 quality, very slow few customers.
Many other Walking Street Establishments- many not open, others less business, some for smoking, some Ladyboy, some middle eastern, some restaurants, don't know if 7/11 is open- probably.
Bamboo Bar near Walking street- NOT OPEN I heard they made somebody mad, but I think they will open in the future- the premiere location for finding a mature lady for the night- classic fixture of the.
Jomtien- Rhompo Complex- group of about 10 "beer bars" next to a car park which turns into a street food complex at night (very good). These bars seem to have some loyal customers (Aussie, European) low key, music, some singing, pool, more mature service staff and girls- good, relaxed atmosphere- bar fine was 300 Bt. Last I checked. Some Ladyboys mixed into the service staff not necessarily announced, so be aware.
Jomtien- Soi 3-9 Bars: multiple bars along these roads between Beach Road and Second Road, mixed within other businesses. Most have the same format of a few girls in the front near the road encouraging customers to come in- to be entertained by the girls in conversation, to my knowledge all are available for bar fine, I expect at 300 with 1000-1200 Baht for the lady, most of the ladies are on the mature side of the spectrum. Beer cost of 65-70, Scotch about the same. A few ladyboys but not many.
Jomtien- Thapphraya Rd (Second Road to Beach Road) this is the main road between Pattaya and the Beach in Jomtien. With about 10 bars and restaurants sometimes called restaurant row- several good bars with street view, service ladies to keep the drinks flowing- Country Road, Country Club, Escobar, Pool Bar, Sand Bar, to name a few which will have a variety of European customers, ladies, all with pretty good music, live on occasion, lots of street food available. There is even a new Gogo near the beach with a 'higher' end bar, worth a look. There are also approximately 10 restaurants mixed in along this route, various cuisine and price points, along with retail, and service shops.
Jomtien Complex- entry from this location, is an area nicely done of multiple massage (boy) parlors, small bars, small, good restaurants, several hotels, a showroom, and multiple larger bars- all marketing to the Gay crowd- all very well done and in good taste- worth the walk thru.
Gentlemen's Clubs- there are probably at least a dozen of these which are primarily open 2-9 have ladies and service workers, pool, some food, some have rooms all that I heard or saw had 300 Bhat room fee, 1000 girl fee all for on site entertainment. Numerous in LK Metro area, 3-4 in Jomtien, several in Pratamnak, others elsewhere with similar pricing I believe. These may not be for everyone but worth a look, for some low-key entertainment- but some of these do get going with a lot of down and dirty as I understand.
Thai Friendly- there are multiple ladies listed on Thai Friendly for which I would guess that 80% are Pay for Play and the remainder will not be offended if asked.
I am a premium member and find it worth the investment and valued for the entertainment value. I have monitored TF for a few months prior to the trip and kept in touch with selected few prior to arrival. I listed the data I obtained and the candidates from TF and used it upon arrival.
There are no secrets of success which I can guarantee, but some things I do: only look at those with pictures, only pictures of smiling ladies, more attention to those who "like or are interested in me", use the filter for age if desired- it cuts it down significantly. If you send a message and don't get an answer- wastebasket, presume that they are Pay for Play, if they are not, they will let you know quickly- don't be embarrassed of apologetic.
Language can be a challenge, but most do have basic English skills, enough. Most of these ladies don't keep a good calendar so follow-ups to appointments are recommended, and don't plan more than a day ahead I don't think the Thai mind plans too far ahead.
Many ladies are associated with Massage Shops somehow, so in many cases I would ask if they give massage at my condo- if yes, to me it says FS, therefore I would follow-up asking for "massage and short time" which usually got a good response and seemed to relieve the lady of complications with her employer.
Try to move any conversation to Line ID- men, you must have Line ID also, it is free. The Girls like it because it is free, there is no time limit on messages, and it is fast. You and the lady can send pictures back and forth, have call capability, and you can send a map of your location so the girl will know where to meet you.
As I stayed in a Condo, there was no "front desk or security" check-in, once I have an appointment with the lady I would send a map and address of my condo (floor and number) and they would come directly to my room door upon arrival. I used Thai Friendly for my sessions on the whole and 32 of the 33 ladies came directly to my door- easy.
I found that the age indicated on the TF profile was generally out of date by 2 years (less) and most ladies reduced their age several years as well. The average age of the ladies I engaged was 37 years old, the only issues I had in response or showing up was for ladies below 30- lots of cancels, no call backs, etc. I found the difference between a young hardbody and a more mature 30 something was negligible physically and much more positive for the session.
I repeated with about 1/3 of my TF Ladies, which certainly provided a more GFE session on the 2nd and 3rd session and the knowledge that I was staying for a month may have provided some motivation to the Lady. I don't recommend going more than 3 sessions in repeat- some get too possessive.
I would also session many times in late afternoon and afterwards numerous ladies and I would go drinking, dinner, clubs, and walks to look at the sunset. Like a date after the session, these can be enjoyable and inexpensive in the long run, many which lead to a good night session at the condo.
As I said, I stayed in a Condo in Jomtien (View Taly) which is a 25 ish year-old high-rise building, which I selected due to location etc. I have stayed in a hotel in the area previously and enjoyed it, but the size, kitchen, amenities, and price all made it work for me very well. I do recommend that an office of the Condo Agent be within the Condo for "communications issues". These condos are independently owned and leased by Agents who generally have small offices in the Condo building. The girls really liked the condo (22nd floor) view of the beach all the way to Sattiup.
Jomtien vs. Pattaya- I stayed in Jomtien because of the smaller village feeling that it has. It is quieter, which is a plus and a negative, with possibly fewer tour groups, a better beach, more local restaurants, fewer tattoos, etc. Jomtien is contiguous to Pattaya, so it is very close to Walking Street and not far from LK Metro- all on the Baht Bus route. I also think Jomtien is more European / Aussie than Pattaya and it is more mature in visitors as well.
FYI- Test and Go and Covid Insurance- I had to sign-up for these before the process was cancelled just before my arrival. I went to the reserved Hotel while in Pattaya and negotiated return of some of the unused expenses (all) I was able to obtain the refund less 30% "processing fee" from the Hotel- I could not even get someone to talk to from the Insurance Company- no surprise.
Pricing: I did not think the prices have changed much from 2019 when I last visited. I would say I was conservative but no where near a Cheap Charlie, the following summarizes some expense:
29 Days on the Ground, Exchange rate: 35 Baht to US $, May-June 2022.
Condo 20,000 Baht (penthouse, maid service, utilities) - this was higher than I should have paid (about $25 US / Day actual).
Transportation 5500 Baht- includes Taxi RT to Airport, BKK Trip, local rides- (about $5 US / Day.
Food 22,000 Baht- American Breakfast daily, nice dinner, street food lunch, snacks, some "date diners" included (about $22 US / day).
Beverage 8800 Baht- mostly beer at 65-75/ beer- (about 8. 50/ day).
Misc. 4300 Baht- Laundry, meds, gifts, foot massage (about 5. 00/ day).
Entertainment: 52,500 Baht- 32 sessions, 17 ladies.
1,500 Bhat highest session cost, 1,000 Bhat many sessions.
"Massage and Short Time" mostly 1,200.
Would not pay higher than 1,500.
Some gifts and expenses associated with above within the total making session cost some higher.
I will be back in Jomtien in 2023 for my 73rd Birthday.
I hope the information I have shared will be of use to future travelers and update others on what is happening in Pattaya / Jomtien.
Cheers.
Mr Enternational
08-17-22, 22:28
29 Days on the Ground, Exchange rate: 35 Baht to US $, May-June 2022.
Condo 20,000 Baht (penthouse, maid service, utilities) - this was higher than I should have paid (about $25 US / Day actual).Great report. How did you find the condo?
Member #4753
08-18-22, 04:28
I had the opportunity to return to Thailand in Mid-May until Mid-June of 2022 after all the Testing restrictions were cancelled, just prior to the operating hour changes (which meant very little) were abandoned. Over the years I have been to Thailand 8 times (1974-2019) so I have familiarity with the country and my last few trips have been predominantly to Pattaya / Jomtien. I am American, just retired business type which allowed me to have an extended stay.
I have read the Forum daily for years- finding it quite informative and a good guide from especially those on the ground living in Pattaya. Based on information gleaned from the Forum I have traveled as a Tourist who enjoys ladies, not a monger.
Therefore, this Report may be helpful to Newbies, and it is also an update for future and experienced travelers.
What a great no nonsense, no BS report. Kudos to you sir!
I had the opportunity to return to Thailand in Mid-May until Mid-June of 2022 after all the Testing restrictions were cancelled, just prior to the operating hour changes (which meant very little) were abandoned. Over the years I have been to Thailand 8 times (1974-2019) so I have familiarity with the country and my last few trips have been predominantly to Pattaya / Jomtien. I am American, just retired business type which allowed me to have an extended stay.
I have read the Forum daily for years- finding it quite informative and a good guide from especially those on the ground living in Pattaya. Based on information gleaned from the Forum I have traveled as a Tourist who enjoys ladies, not a monger.
Therefore, this Report may be helpful to Newbies, and it is also an update for future and experienced travelers.
Highly informative and detailed report sir. How was your personal experience on Thai friendly girls vs freelancers vs bar girls? Never stayed in Jomtien. Now got the inspiration. Do we get freelancers easily in Jomtien area?
I've used taxis to and from Pattaya to the airport and back...
Taxis, downstairs at the Airport, you should easily be able to catch and pay one 1500 baht, they might start talking about charging extra per bag and toll, the toll is only 105 baht.Taxi's to Pattaya are fast and convenient, I always use https://www.namstaxiladydrivers.com as they are very professional and careful drivers. You book ahead and about 24 hours before, you get an email with the name of your driver and pickup location. Their prices have dropped recently, only 1400 including tolls for the largest vehicle between the airport and Pattaya, I throw in an extra 1000 as the service is so reliable and that was their regular price.
The Creaper
08-18-22, 08:47
There is a policy at Maggie Mays that if you buy a lady 4 tequilas, she has to get naked. I had forgotten about it, until the ladies with me got naked. And then the other ladies followed suit.Same rule follows at Camel Toe. Same owner same rules, Come and check it out for yourself.
StLouisMo2010 A great update.
How is it: I found Pattaya / Jomtien had recovered about 75% from Covid-That's about right.
Soi 6- the famous street of about 15 BrothelsA lot more than that were open in June, last Christmas was dire.
Walking Street-about 50%+ of pre-covid experience, mostly Indian men with a representation of Europeans.Thailand is looking for a better class of tourist but these days they can't get tourists from Red China, so they are making deals with India.
Went over to Koh Larn today. Took a TF girl with me and gave her 500 Baht to spend the whole day with me.
Lovely experience. I don't get the complaints regarding Koh Larn. The water at Tien Beach was breathtaking, crystal clear. Not to many tourists on the island, all the Indians go to Taewan Beach, hordes of them there. Tien and Samae had very little people.
Motorbike rental for only 200 baht. Ferry each way only 30 baht.
Overall, such a cheap and awesome way to spend the day.
I plan to go back in a few days, this time by myself and explore the little island more.
Great report! I'm arriving in early September; staying at Areca Lodge first time. We used to stay at LK Empress on Beach Road, but as well noted, not much action on Beach or Second Road these days. We've concentrated on the LK Metro area for several years now. Billabong in the past had some great older freelancers and Sugar-Sugar had the hottest girls, IMHO.
We may go to WS once in the whole stay. Soi Pothole looks like my kind of Soi; small, seedy bars. Tree Town looks a little too bright and glitzy, but we'll give it a walk, I'm sure. Soi 6 is always an adventure, but can be pricy. Buy one girl a drink and before you know it, you've bought all the girls drinks.
One area that was not covered is "Soi Boomerang". What is the vibe there? Looks to be mostly "Club" type venues with only a few outdoor bars.You're smart to stay at Areca Lodge. It's right near Buakhow but still with easy access to 2nd Road. The LK Empress is a nice enough place, and you can't beat the view, but it's just too far from the action these days and you'll spend all your time walking. LK Empress also has a lot of families / couples, which I try to avoid.
There's actually more to Tree Town than just Tree Town. I recommend walking through the main area to the bar complexes "past Tree Town". Once you get away from the craziness of the main complex on Buakhow, there are many smaller bars / complexes to choose from. Just take a stroll to see what you see. If you find someone you like, stop in for a beer. Bar fines from these bars are very reasonable (I pulled from Lai's Bar in April) and are close enough to Areca Lodge that you'll have nice easy logistics. There is even, I believe, a G-Club in the "behind Tree Town" section although I've not yet visited.
As for Soi Boomerang, it was mainly closed in April but it's open now. You're correct in that it's mainly G-Clubs. I visited on my last trip and lots of girls out front at most places. I stopped in at one G-Club (can't remember the name) at the end of the soi on the left, just before you go around the corner. Nice place, brand new interior, good selection of women but not as hands one as G-Clubs on Soi Pothole and drinks were more. So, if you see someone, pull them inside for one drink and then either head upstairs or move on. I made the mistake of buying too many LDs without taking the girl ST. There's also one beer bar that's open-air on the corner ("Warm Up" bar or something like that) where you can have a beer, chill, and view the talent on the soi. Next time, I'll take that approach until I see someone I like.
Have fun next month, and please report back on your trip!
Mr Enternational
08-18-22, 13:55
Thailand is looking for a better class of tourist but these days they can't get tourists from Red China, so they are making deals with India.They have always made deals with India. I have a friend in Bangkok that would go to India to advertise Thai tourism and packages. She would come to Pattaya to check out the hotels that were included in the packages. And that was years ago. I have not talked to her in a few years.
Member #4807
08-18-22, 15:44
What a great report mate, you brought up some amazing memories from Jomtien area, a location I fell in love with since my first visit way back 2004. Rompho market bars and others on Sois 3-7 will give that laid back feel away from the hustle and bustle of Pattaya. On my off-pussy-days I use to frequent a sports bar named Frasers. Behind the gay area you mentioned there was a massive bar with lots and lots of drinks from all over the world, like a 100's type of whiskeys and the whole lot.
Well done for your report and trip.
"Jomtien- Soi 3-9 Bars: multiple bars along these roads between Beach Road and Second Road, mixed within other businesses. Most have the same format of a few girls in the front near the road encouraging customers to come in- to be entertained by the girls in conversation, to my knowledge all are available for bar fine, I expect at 300 with 1000-1200 Baht for the lady, most of the ladies are on the mature side of the spectrum. Beer cost of 65-70, Scotch about the same. A few ladyboys but not many.
Jomtien- Thapphraya Rd (Second Road to Beach Road) this is the main road between Pattaya and the Beach in Jomtien. With about 10 bars and restaurants sometimes called restaurant row- several good bars with street view, service ladies to keep the drinks flowing- Country Road, Country Club, Escobar, Pool Bar, Sand Bar, to name a few which will have a variety of European customers, ladies, all with pretty good music, live on occasion, lots of street food available."
Great report. How did you find the condo?I've been viewing "Condo6.com"; a lot of options being advertised. I may book a 3-4 week stay at one of them.
NamasteParis
08-18-22, 17:53
TF has one major problem. There is no predictability when the girl will arrive. It can be anywhere between 1 hour to 3 hours. As a french writer said: "If she is late, she will come! "
GentileBear
08-18-22, 19:48
Thank You StLouisMo2010 !! That was Epic. And yes sir. Like my user-name I like to give the ladies a Gentle Hug and wait for a smile. Thai's for me seem more poker-face than Pinay's. But the genuine smile when I bear hug them is my Go or No Go approach to see how their attitude will be.
Again thanks for the info and That's a lot of Sessions for being in your 70's!
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