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ElMexicant
01-31-23, 03:42
This place has really gone to shit. Used to be top 3 or 4 before COVID. I remember in 2018, they boasted close to 200 girls a night with 4 rotations. Back then, they gave Palace a run for its money with the younger Asian weekend warriors. Good news is Indians are allowed in now. No way back then. My last trip there, only girl that interested me was a waitress. Skinny but decent looking. Told her I had a big group of Korean buddies visiting in a few days and they would like to come to Sensations. Told her I wanted her to waitress for us and they are big tippers. That got her to come to my hotel room before her shift for 2000 flat 1 hour. She felt as she hasn't been fucked in ages. Could not take much and whimpered a bunch. Said I was too deep in every position. Crybaby. Even CG with her controlling it. It wasn't good boom boom. Had to finish with a HJ and cum in face. Wonder if she is still waiting for the Koreans to come. Hehehe. Baccara is #2 now. Sometimes the upstairs will open up. Mostly on weekends. The Chinese are slowly filling that bar back up. Pin Up still top dog with Baccara closing in. I recognized 5-6 What's Up girl and former Pin Ups at Baccara, so the tide is turning. Drinks are still expensive there though.
My doc friend has informed me that the issue or the problem is not semen deficiency. I am ejaculating means no less semen. I can eat oysters if I like them but to eat as a supplement for zinc or to put me on zinc pills is not needed. His exact words to me.
I and he knows and like every one here, I banged 6 chicks in 5 days so that would have happened. Thanks for your precious words everyone on the forum.
I will not take too much of space here. Visited 6 clubs on Saturday night; insomnia and Lucifer, and 4 Indian clubs for 30 to 45 minutes each. Indian clubs were jam packed, walking street looked like a fair overtaken by Chinese or people from SEA due to Chinese New Year. Difficult to walk. Drinks pricey in Indian clubs by approx 30% in comparison to Lucifer / insomnia and selling like hot cakes. The chicks that I saw in those 2 clubs were not that attractive and were not being picked up by white guys (sorry, no offense to any race / creed).
Just one simple query as last chick from Lucifer I picked was in 2017. What are the price levels as of now in those kind of clubs as I did not approach anyone as had a flight to catch next day and wouldn't have been able to perform due to excessive fucking from my side. Just a rough idea from guys who've picked up from those kind of clubs. A chick who I had brought to my room a couple of days ago told me that I should also visit Mixx and Republik and she had a 50% discount card for drinks from 3 clubs. So, she was willing to go along on that day or later and I could have saved money but I did not go. Insomnia offered me a 20% discount if I became a member. I am sure everyone got that offer as cards were lying on the drinks counter.
Many thanks again guys.
Regards.
Zinc helps with the build-up of semen which would help you to come more often. The best source of zinc I know is oysters. Eat lots of oysters and that should help you to CIP more often.
The prior report noted some negative aspects of growing old (I am now 74) while still attempting to monger. All are valid reasons and, unfortunately, I have an even worse condition. In 2016 while traveling in Europe, all of a sudden I had difficulty urinating. I went to a clinic and the doctor diagnosed that I had a urinary tract infection preventing the passage of urine and prescribed antibiotics to clear it up. I got some immediate relief but the issue returned at end of trip. By the time I arrived in US, I needed to go to ER where they put me on a catheter and drained 2 1/2 litres of urine from my bladder. After that, they did diagnostics and my urologist determined I needed green light laser surgery to widen my urinary tract. He also said my bladder had lost much of its flexibility also impeding urination. However, he did not explain to me that a consequence most times of this surgery is it also blocks the sperm from ejaculating. I can still have an erection and orgasm but no sperm ever leaves my body.
This condition has significantly diminished my interest in sexual activity. Obviously, he's at massage parlours can't occur so why bother. Try explaining my condition to someone who barely speaks and understands English. Of course, I still use condoms and in this way I can hide the lack of sperm (unless I am in Peru where chicas have been known to rummage through wastebaskets seeking proof you came LOL). I have since read there are some urology specialists in LA who can do this delicate surgery without impacting ejaculation but when one has a catheter in your dick, most men think of immediate remedying the condition.
Yes, growing old sucks.
...I can still have an erection and orgasm but no sperm ever leaves my body.
This condition has significantly diminished my interest in sexual activity...That sounds fine to me. As long as I can still orgasm I don't see the problem. Or is the feeling of the ejac part of the enjoyment of orgasm that we're unaware of?
I still feel like I am having an ejaculation and an orgasm though, as noted, no substance appears except sometimes pre cum or even a bit of urine. A lot of woman expect to see sperm as part of the sexual act, and if it's not there, then they think they have not satisfied you in some way. That can be a problem. Of course, at a massage place, a visible ejaculation would be impossible to attain and I prefer not to deal with it or just tell them no when they decide to pursue that option. Basically, I look for legit spas as soapies etc. Are off the menu.
That sounds fine to me. As long as I can still orgasm I don't see the problem. Or is the feeling of the ejac part of the enjoyment of orgasm that we're unaware of?
This is going to be controversial, but I've been here for 3 days already, and so far Pattaya is a huge let down. Not in regards for tourism and cheaper prices compared to Bangkok and Phuket, but I mean in regards to girls. While there is an abundance of women everywhere with plenty of bars, a go go clubs, street walkers, and massage places. I have to give this an average rating due to how unattractive these girls are. You can have 1000 girls on one block, but if they are fat and old then really what is the true quantity of women available in Pattaya? I don't know how guys are rating girls, but I haven't seen a single 8, 9 or 10 girl on any street. I haven't gone to a soapy massage yet so maybe they are in there? But if you are talking Soi 6, Soi Bukhao, LK Metro, and even walking street I would say the vast majority of women are 6 and below. I've maybe seen a few 7's, but I can't really tell since everytime I think I spot a 7 I get a closer look and their complexion is just not too good so they have to be downgraded to a 6. 5. Everyone has their own scale of looks, but I would think that most guys would rate a Thai beauty pageant queen a 10 and everyone else goes down in scale from there. A 6 is fuckable I guess if I was desperate, and unfortunately I'm getting desperate. I might just overpay just to nut once at a soapy massage, and return back to Bangkok to monger once I'm done touring Pattaya. Really though in regards to monger destinations, unless you have an Asian fetish, I would rate Thailand overall well below Germany and Colombia. That's purely for mongering, if you are talking about which country is better for a regular vacation then hands down it's Thailand.
Uncle Volodya
01-31-23, 12:13
This is going to be controversial, but I've been here for 3 days already, and so far Pattaya is a huge let down. Not in regards for tourism and cheaper prices compared to Bangkok and Phuket, but I mean in regards to girls. While there is an abundance of women everywhere with plenty of bars, a go go clubs, streetwalkers, and massage places. I have to give this an average rating due to how unattractive these girls are. Sadly I agree. Though with one caveat. Some good-looking girls can be found in the Gogos. But you will be paying a premium, with no guarantee of the kind of GFE treatment I look for. My bread and butter used to be FLs at Ibar, Insomnia, 808, Lucifer, and (way back when) Red Car. And I had some memorable times with girls there. But during recent trips I found I would go nights on end without finding a doable girl (at least one that isn't already taken). I also liked Soi 6. Could find an occasional gem in the rough there. But my man Banna Boi, who I have often hit the 6 with in the past, and who was there a couple of months back, says it's just awful and not even worth it to go there anymore.
That is why I am in no hurry to get back to Pattaya. I have not been back since 2018. I have found greener pastures elsewhere (Cambodia, Indonesia). If you do see a good-looking girl. Even if it is just in the street at daytime. Be ready to pounce. It may be the only opportunity of the trip (though be nice and polite, not lewd and rude, when you do approach here).
Sadly I agree. Though with one caveat. Some good-looking girls can be found in the Gogos. But you will be paying a premium, with no guarantee of the kind of GFE treatment I look for. My bread and butter used to be FLs at Ibar, Insomnia, 808, Lucifer, and (way back when) Red Car. And I had some memorable times with girls there. But during recent trips I found I would go nights on end without finding a doable girl (at least one that isn't already taken). I also liked Soi 6. Could find an occasional gem in the rough there. But my man Banna Boi, who I have often hit the 6 with in the past, and who was there a couple of months back, says it's just awful and not even worth it to go there anymore.
That is why I am in no hurry to get back to Pattaya. I have not been back since 2018. I have found greener pastures elsewhere (Cambodia, Indonesia). If you do see a good-looking girl. Even if it is just in the street at daytime. Be ready to pounce. It may be the only opportunity of the trip (though be nice and polite, not lewd and rude, when you do approach here).Finally broke my Pattaya cherry tonight. It was with a 30 year old Beach Road girl that quoted me 1000 baht plus 200 baht for the room. 1200 baht total seems like a fairly good deal considering I got her to do BBBJ. Her body was pretty good with no baby marks even though she had three kids. No saggy boobs, decent enough face, and pussy that was still tight, what more could I ask for? Probably a solid 7, and given how poorly things have been going for me so far in Pattaya I'm extremely happy with this.
BTW how is it that guys are having such a blast on Soi 6? I walked by there awhile ago around 9:30 PM and it seemed like a high school dance. A bunch of girls standing out in front trying to entice guys to come in, and of the guys that are sitting down drinking, they are drinking by themselves or with a buddy looking bored with no girls to entertain them. Is that how it is? Are these girls just taking your drink orders only? I went to Soi 6 earlier today and had an awful time much like those lonely guys. I saw this cute young girl sitting out front that gave me the look so I thought I would go in get a drink with her and then take her to the room. Instead she just asked me what I was having and then after grabbing me my drink went back to the front to sit. WTF is up with that? Seeing a bunch of lonely guys tonight sitting by themselves makes me think this is more common then not at Soi 6.
Regarding the below report, it mentions the Red Car club but unclear if the poster was saying it's closed or now no good. I had one of the best sex experiences of my life there several years ago with this girl who was part Singapore Chinese and part Iranian. She even spoke Farsi much to the amazement of some Iranian guys who had a bar in Arab Alley. Since I am going tomorrow, I was wondering if I should include RedCar in my itinerary. The girl BTW claimed to be just passing through.
I am not expecting much but the review below certainly has a dismal outlook on the current state of affairs there.
Mr Enternational
01-31-23, 17:32
BTW how is it that guys are having such a blast on Soi 6? I saw this cute young girl sitting out front that gave me the look so I thought I would go in get a drink with her and then take her to the room. Instead she just asked me what I was having and then after grabbing me my drink went back to the front to sit. WTF is up with that? Seeing a bunch of lonely guys tonight sitting by themselves makes me think this is more common then not at Soi 6.Meanwhile in the Brazil thread, guys are complaining about getting mobbed by chicks. Guys don't want to go to Soi 6 because the girls don't pay them any attention and guys don't want to go to places in Brazil because the girls pay them too much attention.
Centaurus was a nightmare, which is unfortunate because the experience itself ended up being quite good with the girls in the room. There is one thing with the girls being aggressive, but we could not even get a drink in the damn place we were just being bombarded to the point we had to be rude with some of them. I am assuming this is because they could see a mile away that we were tourists, but Ill never set foot in that place again.
Regarding the below report, it mentions the Red Car club but unclear if the poster was saying it's closed or now no good. I had one of the best sex experiences of my life there several years ago with this girl who was part Singapore Chinese and part Iranian. She even spoke Farsi much to the amazement of some Iranian guys who had a bar in Arab Alley. Since I am going tomorrow, I was wondering if I should include RedCar in my itinerary. The girl BTW claimed to be just passing through.
I am not expecting much but the review below certainly has a dismal outlook on the current state of affairs there.
Regarding the below report, it mentions the Red Car club but unclear if the poster was saying it's closed or now no good. I had one of the best sex experiences of my life there several years ago with this girl who was part Singapore Chinese and part Iranian. She even spoke Farsi much to the amazement of some Iranian guys who had a bar in Arab Alley. Since I am going tomorrow, I was wondering if I should include RedCar in my itinerary. The girl BTW claimed to be just passing through.
I am not expecting much but the review below certainly has a dismal outlook on the current state of affairs there.It's been a few months but during my last visit to Red Car I was the only customer in the place at 22:00. If you are on Walking Street it only takes a minute to pop in and have a look around. Hopefully you have better luck than I did. Things can change dramatically in a few months.
MartinFlevo
01-31-23, 18:00
This is going to be controversial, but I've been here for 3 days already, and so far Pattaya is a huge let down.So you are saying Phuket / BKK got better looking ladies?
Did you visit pinup agogo?
My doc friend has informed me that the issue or the problem is not semen deficiency. I am ejaculating means no less semen. I can eat oysters if I like them but to eat as a supplement for zinc or to put me on zinc pills is not needed. His exact words to me......Thanks for this information. Life is a continual learning experience and I am guided accordingly by posters like yourself and Tomasb.
This is going to be controversial, but I've been here for 3 days already, and so far Pattaya is a huge let down. Not in regards for tourism and cheaper prices compared to Bangkok and Phuket, but I mean in regards to girls. While there is an abundance of women everywhere with plenty of bars, a go go clubs, street walkers, and massage places. I have to give this an average rating due to how unattractive these girls are. You can have 1000 girls on one block, but if they are fat and old then really what is the true quantity of women available in Pattaya? I don't know how guys are rating girls, but I haven't seen a single 8, 9 or 10 girl on any street. I haven't gone to a soapy massage yet so maybe they are in there? But if you are talking Soi 6, Soi Bukhao, LK Metro, and even walking street I would say the vast majority of women are 6 and below. I've maybe seen a few 7's, but I can't really tell since everytime I think I spot a 7 I get a closer look and their complexion is just not too good so they have to be downgraded to a 6. 5. Everyone has their own scale of looks, but I would think that most guys would rate a Thai beauty pageant queen a 10 and everyone else goes down in scale from there. A 6 is fuckable I guess if I was desperate, and unfortunately I'm getting desperate. I might just overpay just to nut once at a soapy massage, and return back to Bangkok to monger once I'm done touring Pattaya. Really though in regards to monger destinations, unless you have an Asian fetish, I would rate Thailand overall well below Germany and Colombia. That's purely for mongering, if you are talking about which country is better for a regular vacation then hands down it's Thailand.The lack of quality when it comes to Pattaya has been a running topic for sometime now. And IMO it is true, the quality is no longer very good in Pattaya. However when you factor in costs of hotels, costs of mongering, limitless mongering options everywhere, cheap and diverse food and being by the water. Pattaya is still a great place.
I'm sure the girls are hotter in Columbia but it doesn't seem safe to me. Also, Thailand is the best combo of vacationing and mongering as personally I value vacation / tourist stuff over mongering. Of course, to each his own.
Banana Boi
01-31-23, 23:08
Pattaya good or bad? I'm not going to disagree with Bluat but your post would be a lot more informative if you named the BARS you went to make your conclusion. I mean if you walked in to Pin Up, Baccara, and Palace I'm sure you would have a MUCH different perspective of the quality of gogo girls than if you walked into say Living Dolls and Bliss. Also the night of the week you go to the bars makes a huge difference as well as the time of the night you visited. You are not going to get a good idea of the quality of girls at Palace or Pin Up if you go there at midnight vs going there at 9 pm. Anyone decent is barfined by midnight.
Frog Bar complex. Been wondering about this place. It just reopened when I was leaving Pattaya but it looked really nice and was rocking. I know one poster on here doesn't feel we need actual reports in the Pattaya Reports thread but I'd like to hear from someone on the ground how Frog Bar complex is doing.
I saw this cute young girl sitting out front that gave me the look so I thought I would go in get a drink with her and then take her to the room. Instead she just asked me what I was having and then after grabbing me my drink went back to the front to sit. WTF is up with that? Seeing a bunch of lonely guys tonight sitting by themselves makes me think this is more common then not at Soi 6.
Show your charm and convince her to stay by your side without having to buy her a drink. Otherwise buy her a drink or at least start asking her about going upstairs. She's there to make money not to entertain you. If she doesn't get at least her 50 baht from the drink you buy her why should she stay with you and let you feel her up and DFK her? That's not a Thailand thing it's the same for all countries in SEA. Some countries' girls are just more tolerant than others. I've had what happened to you at Soi 6 happen to me as well. I would just walk up to that girl and ask her to come back, make her laugh, or buy her a drink. Of course if you pick the fat short ugly girl she'll stay with you all afternoon in hopes that you will be her 1 barfine for the week.
unless you have an Asian fetish, I would rate Thailand overall well below Germany and Colombia.
Not sure why someone would hobby in Thailand, Jakarta, Ho Chi Minh, Phnom Penh or Manila unless they like Asians. Sure Germany has better looking white girls but anyone who has been going since the 2000s will tell you Germany is crap now compared to back then. Other issues with Germany is that it's 70 euro just to get in the door of some clubs. Girls upsell everything to COB, COF, BBBJ, BBFS, and even freakin' DFK. A session there can cost 200 euro per hour now in addition to what you paid to enter the club. Let's not forget that hotels are more expensive, you need to rent a car, and Germany is one of the dullest countries you could ever visit. I know I've been there 40+ times. On top of all that how much does an all nighter with a FKK girl cost? FKK girls squirm if you try taking a photo too. Buy a drink for a Thai girl at Soi 6 and she will let you take a video of her DFKing you.
Sensations
This place has really gone to shit. Used to be top 3 or 4 before COVID. I remember in 2018, they boasted close to 200 girls a night with 4 rotations.
I think it was more like 2015 to 2017 when it was really good. For me it wasn't great even in 2018. But you saw my face when we walked in a few months ago. I would have walked right back out if the manager wasn't so happy I came back to his bar.
Agreed, some people just need to complain for no reason.
Yep. No more reviews from me on here.
The lack of quality when it comes to Pattaya has been a running topic for sometime now. And IMO it is true, the quality is no longer very good in Pattaya. However when you factor in costs of hotels, costs of mongering, limitless mongering options everywhere, cheap and diverse food and being by the water. Pattaya is still a great place.
I'm sure the girls are hotter in Columbia but it doesn't seem safe to me. Also, Thailand is the best combo of vacationing and mongering as personally I value vacation / tourist stuff over mongering. Of course, to each his own.To me Pattaya has always been low in quality but high in quantity. I remember spending 2 hours and making multiple round of beach road trying to find a looker (as against a hooker LOL). Sometimes I would walk so much that my feet would develop blisters. Ah! Those were the days (evenings). At least there was so much quantity to choose from that I would find 2-3 girls every night. But with number of freelancers down so much of late, I wonder if it worth going to Pattaya any more.
I doubt if even 200 girls show on beach road now a days.
Please let me know if I am wrong, I don't want to be right!
HorseTrader
02-01-23, 01:43
I'm sure the girls are hotter in Columbia but it doesn't seem safe to me. Also, Thailand is the best combo of vacationing and mongering as personally I value vacation / tourist stuff over mongering. Of course, to each his own.
Not sure why someone would hobby in Thailand, Jakarta, Ho Chi Minh, Phnom Penh or Manila unless they like Asians.I agree with Banana Boi, do your mongering where you like the locals. For me, it's Asia. I've never visited Columbia but I doubt I would find the Columbian girls hotter than the Thai girls. The closest I've ever come to mongering in Columbia is many trips to Tijuana where a few scattered Columbian girls make their way to work in Hong Kong club (yes, they were among the best performers). I like demure personalities, thin legs, small butts, small breasts, and delicate facial features. I won't find much of that in Columbia or any part of South America.
I spent two weeks in Cartagena this fall and have been about a dozen times through the years. It has gotten progressively worse each visit in terms of the chica quality and your personal safety. This is compounded by desperate Venezuelans who are in inundating Cartagena and other cities. In terms of safety there are many documented cases of chicas using knock out Micky type drugs and some tourists have died as a result. Look on the Medellin thread for more details.
On this last trip, I had to defend myself against five chicas who surrounded me in a well lit public area and attempted to steal my phone and wallet. They were not successful because I punched one of them in the stomach. Only then did they back off.
In terms of attractiveness, it's no contest. South Americans have a lot of big silicone enhanced butts and breasts and can't compare to Asians. Also, Cartagena and other cities don't have real go-go's to see girls dancing etc. And their prices can be outlandish.
Banana Boi
02-01-23, 03:50
Pattaya always low in quality
To me Pattaya has always been low in quality but high in quantity. I remember spending 2 hours and making multiple round of beach road trying to find a looker You're not going to find a Maserati (top gogo girl at 3k baht ST + 2k BF) in a Suzuki dealership (Beach Road 500 baht). To my knowledge no one has ever come on here saying you can find lookers on Beach Road. It's for people who come to Pattaya on a strict budget or are very frugal. It's like me coming on here saying all of Pattaya is really expensive because I ended up buying 20 drinks for a top model at Palace (4k drinks + 5k LT + 2k BF +3k drinks/snacks at Hollywood) when there are 1000s of G Clubs, BJ bars, Soi 6/7/8, beer bars, massage joints where girls will go with you for 1 k baht.
So you are saying Phuket / BKK got better looking ladies?
Did you visit pinup agogo?Yes BKK IMO has better looking girls. I don't go into a go go bars anymore as I think they are major ripoffs so maybe my assessment isn't the best for a go go's. However when I walk around Nana Plaza in Bangkok and compare it to walking street and Soi 6 in Pattaya, hands down the girls that stand around outside are much better looking in Bangkok. Street walkers to me are better in Pattaya, but I'm not seeing a high volume of girls out there. Not sure what the real number is, but definitely less then 100 but you have to walk quite a bit. The massage parlors are the real gem to me when it comes to Bangkok. Definitely good looking girls at very reasonable prices. Pattaya makes my feet hurt because I have to walk so much to find someone doable.
I remember walking by Pin Ups on Sunday and Monday night, but I can't recall if the girls standing outside were hot. I'm fairly certain they were just average as no one really made my head turn on walking street. I probably wouldn't go in there though as they will probably fleece me for lady drinks, and charge me outrageous prices for BF and ST. Let me know if that isn't the case. If it's within reason I may go in there to do some scouting around.
As for best mongering places, I've been to Germany, Thailand, and Colombia this year and I still stand by my assessment. I don't have an Asian fetish, I just like girls of all ethnicities pretty much equally. There are some ethnicities that I'm not very attracted to, but definitely I'm into Latin, Caucasian, and Asians so I judge each area as fairly as I can. And to say girls in Latin America have big fake boobs and big boots is just ignorant. I personally prefer slim, petite and natural girls and they are in abundance in Germany and Colombia.
ElMexicant
02-01-23, 08:35
So you are saying Phuket / BKK got better looking ladies?
Did you visit pinup agogo?I've spent serious time in all 3 places. My thoughts on best lookers.
Best Gogo Bar girls and clubs goes to Pattaya, even before COVID. The sheer number of them is crazy. However. If we are talking about outside of just Gogo Bars.
Civilians girls is Bangkok. Freelancers is Bangkok including Thermae and night clubs. Soapies is Bangkok. Remember the Lords Palace? 10,000 a girl? Kapoo is Bangkok. KTV and Thaniya is Bangkok. Online and sidelines girls is Bangkok. The Pimp?
Phuket is the runt.
This is going to be controversial, but I've been here for 3 days already, and so far Pattaya is a huge let down. Not in regards for tourism and cheaper prices compared to Bangkok and Phuket, but I mean in regards to girls. While there is an abundance of women everywhere with plenty of bars, a go go clubs, street walkers, and massage places. I have to give this an average rating due to how unattractive these girls are. You can have 1000 girls on one block, but if they are fat and old then really what is the true quantity of women available in Pattaya? I don't know how guys are rating girls, but I haven't seen a single 8, 9 or 10 girl on any street. I haven't gone to a soapy massage yet so maybe they are in there? But if you are talking Soi 6, Soi Bukhao, LK Metro, and even walking street I would say the vast majority of women are 6 and below. I've maybe seen a few 7's, but I can't really tell since everytime I think I spot a 7 I get a closer look and their complexion is just not too good so they have to be downgraded to a 6. 5. Everyone has their own scale of looks, but I would think that most guys would rate a Thai beauty pageant queen a 10 and everyone else goes down in scale from there. A 6 is fuckable I guess if I was desperate, and unfortunately I'm getting desperate. I might just overpay just to nut once at a soapy massage, and return back to Bangkok to monger once I'm done touring Pattaya. Really though in regards to monger destinations, unless you have an Asian fetish, I would rate Thailand overall well below Germany and Colombia. That's purely for mongering, if you are talking about which country is better for a regular vacation then hands down it's Thailand.I heard it's still very busy and high season right now, so most of the good looking ones are probably wifed up with a tourist for a few weeks or months. Seems that you're late to the party and dealing with the leftovers. When I was there a few months ago the best looking girls were at the big gogos on LK metro and soi boomerang. Try those. The rest of Pattaya will have 6 and below. You can find a good looker in Honey 2 soapy way down second road past soi 6 but be prepared to pay a lot for it and forget long time.
What exactly are you looking for? If you are looking for long time GF, it's better to get on tinder or TF and search cities outside of pattaya and import her to you for a week or more. I met some super hot women in Chang Mai.
ElMexicant
02-01-23, 09:36
Yes BKK IMO has better looking girls. I don't go into a go go bars anymore as I think they are major ripoffs so maybe my assessment isn't the best for a go go's. However when I walk around Nana Plaza in Bangkok and compare it to walking street and Soi 6 in Pattaya, hands down the girls that stand around outside are much better looking in Bangkok. You must be a seasoned GoGo bar guy if you are able to judge quality from just walking around and not going in. FYI hostesses stand outside on WS, rarely dancers do unless it's a small club. Like I said before, the best GoGo bars in Nana or Cowboy would not make top 12 on Walking Street. How do I know? I saw Indians being allowed into Rainbow Bars last night.
I heard it's still very busy and high season right now, so most of the good looking ones are probably wifed up with a tourist for a few weeks or months. Seems that you're late to the party and dealing with the leftovers. When I was there a few months ago the best looking girls were at the big gogos on LK metro and soi boomerang. Try those. The rest of Pattaya will have 6 and below. You can find a good looker in Honey 2 soapy way down second road past soi 6 but be prepared to pay a lot for it and forget long time.
What exactly are you looking for? If you are looking for long time GF, it's better to get on tinder or TF and search cities outside of pattaya and import her to you for a week or more. I met some super hot women in Chang Mai.Definitely not looking to import something to wine and dine. Just whatever is here is what I'll take. I'm a variety type of person. Short term, hit and quit it is all I want. I could overpay, but I hate doing so. I've seen so many mongering places just destroyed due to over tourism, and I rather not add to the problem. Every city is no longer as good as it use to be so I can't compare locations to the past anymore. Now I can only compare each place to their contemporaries.
Definitely not looking to import something to wine and dine. Just whatever is here is what I'll take. I'm a variety type of person. Short term, hit and quit it is all I want. I could overpay, but I hate doing so. I've seen so many mongering places just destroyed due to over tourism, and I rather not add to the problem. Every city is no longer as good as it use to be so I can't compare locations to the past anymore. Now I can only compare each place to their contemporaries.I hear you and agree that places aren't what they used to be. But it's not over tourism that did it. It's that the world in general is changing. The economy is motivating mongers to save money by finding gfs and sugar babies than to be butterflies. It's actually less expensive these days to to have 2 or 3 regulars than to have a lot of variety. So that's less customers for girls which motivates them to not work the streets anymore and settle down as well. It's more profitable for them to have 1 or 2 sugar daddies and stay home or even more profitable to just get pregnant by the right guy. I hate to tell you this, but the mongering game itself is falling out of fashion for a combination of reasons. So might as well just adjust your expectations and try to close your eyes and enjoy the mid level and low level quality faces and try to find the body types that you like. As the saying goes, you may not be able to get a 10 but you can fuck five 2's.
Cha Chumplin
02-01-23, 18:08
You must be a seasoned GoGo bar guy if you are able to judge quality from just walking around and not going in. FYI hostesses stand outside on WS, rarely dancers do unless it's a small club. Like I said before, the best GoGo bars in Nana or Cowboy would not make top 12 on Walking Street. How do I know? I saw Indians being allowed into Rainbow Bars last night.Oh No Indians. LOL. Hahaha.
I hear you and agree that places aren't what they used to be. But it's not over tourism that did it. It's that the world in general is changing. The economy is motivating mongers to save money by finding gfs and sugar babies than to be butterflies. It's actually less expensive these days to to have 2 or 3 regulars than to have a lot of variety. So that's less customers for girls which motivates them to not work the streets anymore and settle down as well. It's more profitable for them to have 1 or 2 sugar daddies and stay home or even more profitable to just get pregnant by the right guy. I hate to tell you this, but the mongering game itself is falling out of fashion for a combination of reasons. So might as well just adjust your expectations and try to close your eyes and enjoy the mid level and low level quality faces and try to find the body types that you like. As the saying goes, you may not be able to get a 10 but you can fuck five 2's.I wouldn't go that far. Europe and South America still have pretty strong lineups with fresh new faces everyday. Thailand has it's own share as well. It's just the prices have inflated in certain areas with too many tourist. For example in Colombia Parque Lleras I could easily find hot chicks for 150 k about 3 years ago. Now I can't find one for less then 300 k with reduced service! Too many over paying tourist there now. So now I move on to other avenues in Medellin that the tourist use less of therefore prices and services are still good. Same with Germany, just got to go to the right clubs which in general are places less frequented by tourist.
Explorer8939
02-01-23, 21:26
Now is High Season, when the 2 Week Millionaires come, fall in love with bargirls, and take them off the market for a month or two. Don't expect top tier ladies to be awaiting you in Pattaya now, come back in four months.
Banana Boi
02-01-23, 23:13
Same with Germany, just got to go to the right clubs which in general are places less frequented by tourist.Which clubs are you referring to?
Banana Boi
02-02-23, 02:17
Yes BKK IMO has better looking girls. I don't go into a go go bars anymore as I think they are major ripoffs so maybe my assessment isn't the best for a go go's. However when I walk around Nana Plaza in Bangkok and compare it to walking street and Soi 6 in Pattaya, hands down the girls that stand around outside are much better looking in Bangkok.It's FREE to walk in! I've never gone with any BKK BJ bar girls yet I keep walking by. It's FREE! Who knows one day I may find the girl of my dreams working in one of those bars. Rookie mistake judging bars based on the number of girls you see on the street. It's like those guys here who make their judgment of how good Thailand is by watching Youtube videos. I guess I was the same. Before I came to Thailand for the first time I used to see those horrid photos in the Photo Gallery forum and said I ain't doing any of those girls!
Not really fair to compare girls who work at Nana vs Soi 6. Those are 2 very different rate levels. It's like comparing Thermae girls to BJ Bar girls.
LittleBigMan
02-02-23, 03:21
Just my 2 cents!
Like most topic that comes around goes around, like prices, cheap charlie stuff reading the biggest problems when it comes to looks? Many say it but don't really believe it is human nature or as we get older we all start to do it. We say we understand but the next word out of our mouth is the same easier said than done as people say!
What we all say I believe " Looks is in the eye of the beholder, another mans trash is another mans treasure ".
The biggest problem is people putting a number after the object. I can't find 9,10, they are 1,2,3, that is the problem? We forget we all have standards looking and being are two different things I've been with guys at places who like them slims, some like big tits some don't, then many like myself start with the feet, legs up, to the ass, when it comes to face if something attracts me then I start to read their face they could be dark light skin it doesn't matter I start to analyze their body language facial expression that is a start. Too many just get me a young trophy to fuck a 9. 10. Incorporate looks only that to me is an ingredient for disaster.
Sure if I can get beauty and she fucks like a rabbit and ticks all the boxes including her personality that would be just great but after all the years here good luck with that! The best one I have in the sack has been a showgirl with saggy tits, an older GC who work her butt off for me in more ways than one, an older massage girl who is appreciative when a guy wants to sponsor her and take her away from the business stops working in the business for good and dedicates herself to the sponsor. These cases are rare really rare from my experience. I know this massage girl on Soi Honey, and for 10 years now we are friends and keep in touch she will never be more than that but we do get together from day one I knew she was a super start although older pre-covid clear a good 200,000 baht a month without a sponsor she lives now with her daughter a Soi down from me just purchased a 6.5 million baht estate. Looks average, and the leg is a bit crook but she is a rock star, and from customers who come when she is free a great companion on trips. She is by far a 10 but she knows customer service!
Take the number label away shut down your eyes to focus on one thing slow down when walking down places like Soi 6, as noted even when you are cut for the time it isn't going to get better if you rush through the process slow down, and let the game come to you if it doesn't no one is ever going to repeat their best experience anywhere nor is your dream standing on one corner of a Soi.
Whenever the opportunity arises I go to Bangkok, the place is larger there are more options even as noted better looking but as noted who decide it, I've sat in some places and friend says she is a beauty a 10. I look and say it's okay We are different why put a number on your trip that's the problem as I see it.
Banana Boi
02-02-23, 03:34
I've sat in some places and friend says she is a beauty a 10. I look say its okay We are different why put a number on your trip that's the problem as I see it.I was on a very exclusive private board with around 50 members. There was one guy on the board who had a totally different numbering system for looks than the rest of us. He said every girl starts at a 7 even if she has no teeth! Half his girls are 9+ and 10's. For me a 7 is a girl I may buy a drink for if she's dirty but likely wouldn't go with unless she was 1000 baht. I have never seen a 9+ or 10 in Thailand but I have in Vietnam and Jakarta. Haven't seen a 10 since FKK and even that was back in 2010 or so.
I don't care what a person's number is. Like you said we all have different scales and what we think is good looking. What I am opposed to are guys who sit at home on YouTube or say there are no nice girls when they NEVER walk into the bar, basing their rating on who is standing outside. If this were the case, the Bachelor in LK should have had the best lineup in Pattaya since imo their Hostess girl was the best looking one. Also, I never see girls standing outside of Booze Lounge in the Darkside yet imo that is the only bar on the Darkside that has young pretty girls (small sample size). Guys on here would report back that Booze wasn't busy cause no girls were standing outisde.
I've been here for three days, and so far Pattaya is a huge let down. I have to give this an average rating due to how unattractive these girls are. You can have 1,000 girls on one block, but if they are fat and old then really what is the true quantity of women available in Pattaya? I'm getting desperate. I might just overpay just to nut once at a soapy massage, and return back to Bangkok to monger. In regards to monger destinations, unless you have an Asian fetish, I would rate Thailand overall well below Germany and Colombia.I would be interested in some "top down analysis" from the Old Pattaya Hands on this.
What big picture factors are keeping the better looking girls out of circulation in Pattaya? Has high season ended early this year? Are the big spending, easy-to-please guys from East Asia staying away? Or perhaps the European punters have finally thrown in the towel? Have the hotties found a way to earn without hooking up with the naughty boys? Has the Thai economy gone into overdrive during China's COVID lockdown, creating lots of good jobs at high wages?
Or maybe the girls have lost touch with what the naughty boys want to see. Just my opinion, but the "Pattaya Look" favored by the girls is well and truly counter-productive. They have fooled themselves into thinking it's OK to gain weight, provided they get a ridiculous boob job or deface their skin with mural-sized tattoos. I know. I know. They wouldn't look that way unless they were making some kind of money. In which case we have nobody but ourselves to blame for spend money of such unattractive specimens.
LittleBigMan
02-02-23, 05:06
I was on a very exclusive private board with around 50 members. There was one guy on the board who had a totally different numbering system for looks than the rest of us. He said every girl starts at a 7 even if she has no teeth! Half his girls are 9+ and 10's. For me a 7 is a girl I may buy a drink for if she's dirty but likely wouldn't go with unless she was 1000 baht. I have never seen a 9+ or 10 in Thailand but I have in Vietnam and Jakarta. Haven't seen a 10 since FKK and even that was back in 2010 or so.
I don't care what a person's number is. Like you said we all have different scales and what we think is good looking. What I am opposed to are guys who sit at home on YouTube or say there are no nice girls when they NEVER walk into the bar, basing their rating on who is standing outside. If this were the case, the Bachelor in LK should have had the best lineup in Pattaya since imo their Hostess girl was the best looking one. Also, I never see girls standing outside of Booze Lounge in the Darkside yet imo that is the only bar on the Darkside that has young pretty girls (small sample size). Guys on here would report back that Booze wasn't busy cause no girls were standing outisde.I think those here that put numbers are he ones having the most problems. They come here all this way based on someone's word or story. I'll will be the first one to tell you I check YouTube once I see the guy majority I don't pay attention what I check is their video as to where they are scanning see maybe a place they scan quickly I see something sitting or standing outside that interest me. Many times I see like a massage in the background then I check it out. I've had a few jackpots. Many of the YouTube are pushing for a person or group to drum up business I know the guys and their group.
For example there are a half dozen guys who live here friends with this group for example Pin up, nice place, but right after they open after Covid these guys were all over the board pushing it as it was exclusive that if your aren't able to buy thousand of baht of drinks each night pay the BF 2500, pay girls 5000-10,000 place wasn't for you. To me many of the young girl some raved about if I was using a number system would even register a 7!
Funny. When it came to price right after it opened it wasn't the Asian driving up prices this time it is the farangs, this group was successful in doing so because Asian wouldn't even here yet. Just before Christmas I was down at Bacarra, sitting behind a girl I knew which just a month earlier paid 1200 for BF and 2000ST, she got guy 5000 LT, until 6 am, paid upfront when she went to change was like a kid in a candy store.
Booze lounge yes you won't find girls sitting outside GC, on the Darkside if they are young generally inexperience I still remember one on Dao bar her Aunt told me just off the farm in room that pussy stunk even after kamagra the little guy would respond.
Cha Chumplin
02-02-23, 06:46
Has anyone said a place has hot girls because of a Hot Hello girl?
I missed it. Sorry.
LittleBigMan
02-02-23, 08:55
I was on a very exclusive private board with around 50 members. There was one guy on the board who had a totally different numbering system for looks than the rest of us. He said every girl starts at a 7 even if she has no teeth! Half his girls are 9+ and 10's. For me a 7 is a girl I may buy a drink for if she's dirty but likely wouldn't go with unless she was 1000 baht. I have never seen a 9+ or 10 in Thailand but I have in Vietnam and Jakarta. Haven't seen a 10 since FKK and even that was back in 2010 or so.
I don't care what a person's number is. Like you said we all have different scales and what we think is good looking. What I am opposed to are guys who sit at home on YouTube or say there are no nice girls when they NEVER walk into the bar, basing their rating on who is standing outside. If this were the case, the Bachelor in LK should have had the best lineup in Pattaya since imo their Hostess girl was the best looking one. Also, I never see girls standing outside of Booze Lounge in the Darkside yet imo that is the only bar on the Darkside that has young pretty girls (small sample size). Guys on here would report back that Booze wasn't busy cause no girls were standing outisde.I think those here that put numbers are he ones having the most problems. They come here all this way based on someone's word or story. I'll will be the first one to tell you I check YouTube once I see the guy majority I don't pay attention what I check is their video as to where they are scanning see maybe a place they scan quickly I see something sitting or standing outside that interest me. Many times I see like a massage in the background then I check it out. I've had a few jackpots. Many of the YouTube are pushing for a person or group to drum up business I know the guys and their group.
For example there are a half dozen guys who live here friends with this group for example Pin up, nice place, but right after they open after Covid these guys were all over the board pushing it as it was exclusive that if your aren't able to buy thousand of baht of drinks each night pay the BF 2500, pay girls 5000-10,000 place wasn't for you. To me many of the young girl some raved about if I was using a number system would even register a 7!
Funny. When it came to price right after it opened it wasn't the Asian driving up prices this time it is the farangs, this group was successful in doing so because Asian wouldn't even here yet. Just before Christmas I was down at Bacarra, sitting behind a girl I knew which just a month earlier paid 1200 for BF and 2000ST, she got guy 5000 LT, until 6 am, paid upfront when she went to change was like a kid in a candy store.
Booze lounge yes you won't find girls sitting outside GC, on the Darkside if they are young generally inexperience I still remember one on Dao bar her Aunt told me just off the farm in room that pussy stunk even after kamagra the little guy would respond.
Got matched with another chick on a dating app. She stayed around 40/50 kms from Pattaya. Her location to my location. Very pretty chick. We started chatting on Friday morning and in late evening she pinged me with a question- What are your plans for tonight, want to hang out? I said yes and she confirmed that she will be over to my hotel by around 10.30 PM. I was waiting for her to give me her price but she did not quote anything. I had my doubt that she will bail on me. She came at around 11. I went down to receive her and check her in property and found her parking her own car, Nissan. I said immediately, rich lady. She said she likes driving and she herself drove this car for 9 hours, her hometown from where she stays now. I had bought a bottle of JD honey as Monday chick wanted but we did not drink as just fucked and slept off, so had a sealed bottle. I Had a drink in warm water with her and she on the rocks. Tried kissing her, she said wait; let's go out. I said WTF have I got myself into. She could see the frown on my face and slightly lipped kiss me but no DFK. We went out for 2 hours at a beach road bar and had a few drinks of whiskey. She got a bit tipsy and came back to room at 2. 30 am. During the conversation, she clarified that first both of us will have shower and then action, as she's comfortable with DFK post that not prior. She stays alone in a condo, works in a company and since it was Friday night, she wanted to go out. Otherwise is home bound. I still was in 2 minds on the price front. No hints as yet.
Guys, I would only like to describe her as a very beautiful white skin 31 year old, perfect slim and trim body with natural big boobs with perfect nipples on them. The best girl of my 15 day 2 trips to Thailand in 45 days. I do not have any complaints on any part of my meet with her post the shower. She simply satisfied me with my DFK complaint as we were lip locked and tongue tied for the entire time till she made me happy with CIM. She has no kid, not married but the pussy was loose. Shared her story as do not believe in the institution of marriage, hates her mother and loves her father. We slept at 5 am and I woke up to check on my office work at 7 am. At around 9 am, woke her up and offered her to have her breakfast with me but she refused as eats only one time, preferably lunch. I was expecting her to at least give me a figure but it was not coming. She got ready to leave and we both got down together to see her off in her car. I asked her in elevator, she said give whatever you feel comfortable with. I said please let me know your expectations. She said 4 K, I said can you please take 3 K, she said I told you give me whatever you comfortable with. I gave her 3500 baht in the elevator and she did not check and silently put it in her purse, could have saved 500 but was super happy to have connected with her. She also advised me to stay in an apartment and not take hotel as it's pricy. I'the save money, nice chick. She also said that I could come over to her condo next time for a day and stay but I am not keen on that. I asked her number, she said lets remain connected on bumble. She'll give if she has to but later. I asked her ID before she got into her car and she handed it over to me. I saw that she was July 1992 born. Pro or non pro, I don't care. I would love to see her again whenever I am back in Thailand. Sincerely hope and pray, either her number or line ID she shares later and do not unmatch me.
Saturday, I simply did club hopping as Sunday morning had a flight to catch back to hometown. Will share my Saturday journey as well.
Regards.
Sounds like a nice experience. From your report it does however sound like you needlessly pushed money on her. Something might be lost between the lines here, but to me it sounds like she was just a normal girl who wanted to hook up with someone and you clicked her buttons. Outside of bars, most girls in Thailand are just normal girls, not hos, and I would not have pushed any money on her.
From my experience, when a dating-app girl does not want to give me her number after sex it's because she has someone else and plans to delete the dating app from her phone when her significant other arrives back in Thailand, to avoid problematic looking messages or calls.
It's FREE to walk in! I've never gone with any BKK BJ bar girls yet I keep walking by. It's FREE! Who knows one day I may find the girl of my dreams working in one of those bars. Rookie mistake judging bars based on the number of girls you see on the street. It's like those guys here who make their judgment of how good Thailand is by watching Youtube videos. I guess I was the same. Before I came to Thailand for the first time I used to see those horrid photos in the Photo Gallery forum and said I ain't doing any of those girls!
Not really fair to compare girls who work at Nana vs Soi 6. Those are 2 very different rate levels. It's like comparing Thermae girls to BJ Bar girls.Isn't Nana cheaper then Walking Street? That's kind of the point of the comparison to show higher quality at a lower cost.
Although to be fair there are some 7's I've seen on Walking Street last night. I'll walk by again and maybe go into one of the a go go's, but those places really aren't my thing. Too pushy on way over priced drinks.
I saw some gems last night as well on Beach Road. I think I saw an 8. She looked like one of those cute J-Pop girls. Nice slim figure, white skin and cute face. Unfortunately a guy was on her quick so I couldn't go with her.
As a frame of reference for Asian girls a 10 to me is an Asian beauty queen like this year's miss Thailand. 9's are like the Kpop idols, 8's aren't as pretty to be a model, idol or actress but still would be one of the prettiest girls in school. 7's are your girl next door that are cute with nice figures still +/-5 pounds. 6's are at the upper limit of my weight limit and looks. 5's are over the hill or just overweight. I won't touch a 5. This is my points of reference so if someone reads my reviews can now understand what I'm looking for. For those that see my 6's and 5's as 8's and 9's then you'll be in heaven here.
LittleBigMan
02-02-23, 15:03
I was on a very exclusive private board with around 50 members. There was one guy on the board who had a totally different numbering system for looks than the rest of us. He said every girl starts at a 7 even if she has no teeth! Half his girls are 9+ and 10's. For me a 7 is a girl I may buy a drink for if she's dirty but likely wouldn't go with unless she was 1000 baht. I have never seen a 9+ or 10 in Thailand but I have in Vietnam and Jakarta. Haven't seen a 10 since FKK and even that was back in 2010 or so.
I don't care what a person's number is. Like you said we all have different scales and what we think is good looking. What I am opposed to are guys who sit at home on YouTube or say there are no nice girls when they NEVER walk into the bar, basing their rating on who is standing outside. If this were the case, the Bachelor in LK should have had the best lineup in Pattaya since imo their Hostess girl was the best looking one. Also, I never see girls standing outside of Booze Lounge in the Darkside yet imo that is the only bar on the Darkside that has young pretty girls (small sample size). Guys on here would report back that Booze wasn't busy cause no girls were standing outisde.I think those here that put numbers are he ones having the most problems. They come here all this way based on someone's word or story. I'll will be the first one to tell you I check YouTube once I see the guy majority I don't pay attention what I check is their video as to where they are scanning see maybe a place they scan quickly I see something sitting or standing outside that interest me. Many times I see like a massage in the background then I check it out. I've had a few jackpots. Many of the YouTube are pushing for a person or group to drum up business I know the guys and their group.
For example there are a half dozen guys who live here friends with this group for example Pin up, nice place, but right after they open after Covid these guys were all over the board pushing it as it was exclusive that if your aren't able to buy thousand of baht of drinks each night pay the BF 2500, pay girls 5000-10,000 place wasn't for you. To me many of the young girl some raved about if I was using a number system would even register a 7!
Funny. When it came to price right after it opened it wasn't the Asian driving up prices this time it is the farangs, this group was successful in doing so because Asian wouldn't even here yet. Just before Christmas I was down at Bacarra, sitting behind a girl I knew which just a month earlier paid 1200 for BF and 2000ST, she got guy 5000 LT, until 6 am, paid upfront when she went to change was like a kid in a candy store.
Booze lounge yes you won't find girls sitting outside GC, on the Darkside if they are young generally inexperience I still remember one on Dao bar her Aunt told me just off the farm in room that pussy stunk even after kamagra the little guy would respond.
Uncle Volodya
02-02-23, 15:34
I used to see those horrid photos in the Photo Gallery forum and said I ain't doing any of those girls!
555. I remember that one dude that kept posting artsy nudie pics of his really skanky 40-ish GF. Almost scared me away from going to Thailand at all!
In the end, you just gotta go and see for yourself. I am mulling over a trip to Sosua (DR) now and trying to sort through the conflicting accounts of the place. In the end, I will probably just bite the bullet and go.
Banana Boi
02-02-23, 16:15
Isn't Nana cheaper then Walking Street? That's kind of the point of the comparison to show higher quality at a lower cost.Maybe ElMexicant can step in here and answer this. Barfines in Bangkok have always been cheaper than Pattaya for many years. Even by early 2016 Sensations was 2000 BF before midnight. Prices to the girls are generally the same since 2015 (3k ST, 5k LT). I assume Nana ladyboys ask for much less. For me I always felt drinks for myself and lady drinks are more costly in BKK but this varies widely on which gogo bar you go to.
I'll walk by again and maybe go into one of the a go go's, but those places really aren't my thing. Too pushy on way over priced drinks.If by tonight you mean Friday night go early it'll be a zoo. Maybe 8:30 pm to either Palace, Baccara, or Pin Up. I'm not sure what you mean by pushy. Have never had a single Pattaya gogo bar ask me to buy another drink after I bought my initial drink. In a place like Crazy House in BKK yes waitresses and mamasans are extremely pushy. If you mean pushy girls that all depends on an individual's ability to say no to a girl. Same applies to Germany FKK clubs. Yes at times an ugly won't leave you alone so I'm either firm with her or I grab the girl I'm interested in and talk to her absolutely ignoring ugmo.
Mr Enternational
02-02-23, 16:27
555. I remember that one dude that kept posting artsy nudie pics of his really skanky 40-ish GF. Almost scared me away from going to Thailand at all!
In the end, you just gotta go and see for yourself. I am mulling over a trip to Sosua (DR) now and trying to sort through the conflicting accounts of the place. In the end, I will probably just bite the bullet and go.You know I am the first one to tell people to go see for themselves, but Sosua is some shit that you do not need to see for yourself! The last 13 years it has been pure shit. Before that it was paradise. I would say it is one place that you can look at youtube videos and know what you are getting into.
I suggest you start with this one, which is pretty much par for the course:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hkHRyg7UrZo
Now is High Season, when the 2 Week Millionaires come, fall in love with bargirls, and take them off the market for a month or two. Don't expect top tier ladies to be awaiting you in Pattaya now, come back in four months.I'm curious, how do the 2 week millionaires take bargirls off the market for a month or two?
I'm curious, how do the 2 week millionaires take bargirls off the market for a month or two?2 weeks at a time. LOL.
Cha Chumplin
02-02-23, 21:45
Beauty is not in the eye of the beholder. Outlier views do exist.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1woCIX8p2_w
Just look at the 3 Lovlies on the Thumbnail.
If you were to wager who would win a beauty contest who would you choose.
If they were horses what would be your Trifecta bet.
Ill start. Beauty winner is one on Left.
Trifecta is Winner of Beauty, 2nd is middle, bring up the rear is the one on right.
P.S. Scales are useful only if accompanied by Evidence. Aka as photo. Better live you tube clip.
Banana Boi
02-03-23, 03:40
I suggest you start with this one, which is pretty much par for the course:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hkHRyg7UrZoLooks like a good time by all!
See you in Medellin, Uncle V!
Nopes, money wasn't pushed. I had put in a word during the date that I did not have a gift and do wish to give her something for an amazing time spent. Hence, handed over her the amount. Plus, did not want to lose the chick wherein she could think of being a cheap charlie or a free loaded which I am not either ways.
We are in touch on whatsapp, she did share her number post my return to my hometown. As a hobby, she makes those Thai scarves and I told her to make 10 for me and I'd transfer the money. Not greedy at all, she said she has a template at home but here she will buy one for making those scarves and it would cost me 100/120 baht only which is dirt cheap.
No, my report is crystal clear. She doesn't have a boyfriend and I do see her status of her swimming in condo pools and living a normal life in her apartment.
Regards.
Sounds like a nice experience. From your report it does however sound like you needlessly pushed money on her. Something might be lost between the lines here, but to me it sounds like she was just a normal girl who wanted to hook up with someone and you clicked her buttons. Outside of bars, most girls in Thailand are just normal girls, not hos, and I would not have pushed any money on her.
From my experience, when a dating-app girl does not want to give me her number after sex it's because she has someone else and plans to delete the dating app from her phone when her significant other arrives back in Thailand, to avoid problematic looking messages or calls.
Explorer8939
02-03-23, 05:36
I'm curious, how do the 2 week millionaires take bargirls off the market for a month or two?The 2 week millionaires promise to support ladies if they stop working bar and go back to the village to wait for them. It generally only takes a month or so for the 2 week guy to suffer buyer's regret and stop sending money.
In some cases, the lady won't go back to the village, she will stay in Pattaya with her Thai boyfriend, and use the sponsor's money for drinking. The sponsor will call her, which is very irritating for the lady, as she has to pretend to be in the village.
I know one lady who got 200,000 baht to go back to the village. She didn't go. The next guy promised her 70,000 baht a year, but continually, so then she went. She stayed in the village for 7 years, only coming to Pattaya to see her sponsor for 2 weeks every year. The 7th year, she stuck around in Pattaya after the sponsor went home, met another guy, got knocked up, and spit out a kid. That ended the sponsorship.
The point is that the 2 week millionaires take ladies off the market for some period after Christmas holiday.
Uncle Volodya
02-03-23, 11:01
Looks like a good time by all!
See you in Medellin, Uncle V!Thanks, Mr. E. Fuck me. This would be the last thing I need. Maybe I need to rethink my itinerary and BB suggested.
Uncle Volodya
02-03-23, 11:11
Beauty is not in the eye of the beholder. Outlier views do exist.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1woCIX8p2_w
clip.For the sake of calibrating the numeric scales, I'd say that most of the girls here are 5's. I only find 2 attractive. The girl at 6 marks is like a 6. 5 to 7. And the European (I'm guessing Russian) girl at the end of the video is cute in a girl-next-door kind of way (maybe give her a 6). I wouldn't be very enthusiastic about flying halfway across the world to get together with these kinds of girls.
This is all very subjective.
Explorer8939
02-03-23, 15:58
Beauty is not in the eye of the beholder. Outlier views do exist.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1woCIX8p2_w
Just look at the 3 Lovlies on the Thumbnail.
If you were to wager who would win a beauty contest who would you choose.
If they were horses what would be your Trifecta bet.
Ill start. Beauty winner is one on Left.
Trifecta is Winner of Beauty, 2nd is middle, bring up the rear is the one on right.
P.S. Scales are useful only if accompanied by Evidence. Aka as photo. Better live you tube clip.The YouTube video is a good example of how not to talk to bargirls. Most Thai ladies in Pattaya cannot understand anything but very basic English. You really need to slow down how you speak, and not use a lot of words. As an example, instead of saying: "what do you think of the room? Try saying "room good, not good?
If your English speech patterns can mirror Thai construction, so much the better. It won't matter much for ST or a one nighter, but the ladies appreciate it if their long time customer makes it easier for them to understanding WTF he is saying.
For the sake of calibrating the numeric scales, I'd say that most of the girls here are 5's. I only find 2 attractive. The girl at 6 marks is like a 6. 5 to 7. And the European (I'm guessing Russian) girl at the end of the video is cute in a girl-next-door kind of way (maybe give her a 6). I wouldn't be very enthusiastic about flying halfway across the world to get together with these kinds of girls.
This is all very subjective.I agree with your assessment and it's similar to my own taste apparently. The best looking girl was the one in the tan colored dress around the 5:30 mark. I would probably give her a 7. The rest are 6 and below. The Russian chick might be a 6, but I can't really see her body so I can't say.
Today was finally the day of success! I finally hit it with a solid 8 and definitely the best looking girl I've fucked in Asia. Slim, early 20's, and mixed with European blood. Decent enough service with some LFK and BBBJ. Not too bad of a price either at 2000 baht for an hour especially when I compare it to other chicks of similar quality. In Bangkok I fucked a similar type of girl that was half Italian / Thai and she was asking for 3 k from Asian customers and 5 k from Westerners. The only girl I would say that I've seen in Pattaya that was on par with this girl was at Iron Club on Walking Street. Not sure how much that girl at Iron Club is asking for, but I imagine a BF, lady drink and my drink would be at least 1 k already. Definitely a gorgeous girl that could probably command at least 3 K on walking street. Anyone know what the going rate is for some of the hotter girls on Walking Street? I'm hearing things like 3 k and 5 k, but also hearing stuff like dealing them down to 1. 5 k. What is the actual truth?
Lots of 7's everywhere on walking street both yesterday and today. On Soi 6 mainly 6's and below, but there are 7's sprinkled around. I also went to Jomtien today to check out Kit Cat and Passions. Kit Cat is a waste of time with few girls that were 6 and below. At least the beer there was cheap as a Singha only cost me 95 baht. Passions was a sausage fest. Just wall to wall guys, with the ratio probably 1 girl for every 3 guy I think. And the girls were only OK. Some had good bodies, but weren't very pretty or much older. And some of the younger and prettier ones had a little bit too much weight on them. I think I might have seen one younger girl wearing a red dress that I would say was a solid 7, but I couldn't really tell as it was quit dim in that club.
I feel like I've been everywhere except the soapy massage places. I guess I'll give those a try tomorrow, but to be honest I think I'm done looking. I have the mixed girl's whatsapp so I'll just be hitting that while I'm here in Pattaya rather then continue to waste my time walking all over the damn place trying to find a diamond in the rough. Seriously this place is full of nothing but girls, but it's so damn hard to find what I'm looking for in regards to looks and price.
Mr Enternational
02-03-23, 18:38
The 2 week millionaires promise to support ladies if they stop working bar and go back to the village to wait for them. It generally only takes a month or so for the 2 week guy to suffer buyer's regret and stop sending moneyI was reading on facebook last night. A guy that used to own a bar said some guy paid a two week barfine for a chick to go back home. He said there was no need to because the girl could have freely gone whenever she wanted. As soon as the guy got into the taxi to go to the airport she was back behind the bar. The owner said she did not need to, so when went and worked at the bar across the street.
Looks like a good time by all!
See you in Medellin, Uncle V!I see a lot of 5's and 6's in the video, certainly no 8's or 9's. I'm thinking about Medellin in March but I've read Covid is a problem now and that numerous flights out of Medellin have been cancelled. Good to hear from Uncle V again.
Nopes, money wasn't pushed. I had put in a word during the date that I did not have a gift and do wish to give her something for an amazing time spent. Hence, handed over her the amount. Plus, did not want to lose the chick wherein she could think of being a cheap charlie or a free loaded which I am not either ways.
We are in touch on whatsapp, she did share her number post my return to my hometown. As a hobby, she makes those Thai scarves and I told her to make 10 for me and I'd transfer the money. Not greedy at all, she said she has a template at home but here she will buy one for making those scarves and it would cost me 100/120 baht only which is dirt cheap.
No, my report is crystal clear. She doesn't have a boyfriend and I do see her status of her swimming in condo pools and living a normal life in her apartment.
Regards.Can you expand on your use of dating apps? Specifically, which ones worked well for dating type of hookups? I only used TF when I was there which I didn't find useful for dating. Perhaps Bumble and Tinder are better for that?
Cha Chumplin
02-03-23, 20:18
The YouTube video is a good example of how not to talk to bargirls. Most Thai ladies in Pattaya cannot understand anything but very basic English. You really need to slow down how you speak, and not use a lot of words. As an example, instead of saying: "what do you think of the room? Try saying "room good, not good?
If your English speech patterns can mirror Thai construction, so much the better. It won't matter much for ST or a one nighter, but the ladies appreciate it if their long time customer makes it easier for them to understanding WTF he is saying.I didn't and will not watch the video.
People are supposed to rate girls on thumbnail. Just a gauge to sense what people here find attractive.
Explorer8939
02-04-23, 00:43
I was reading on facebook last night. A guy that used to own a bar said some guy paid a two week barfine for a chick to go back home. He said there was no need to because the girl could have freely gone whenever she wanted. As soon as the guy got into the taxi to go to the airport she was back behind the bar. The owner said she did not need to, so when went and worked at the bar across the street.Yeah, the bottom line is if you send money to a bargirl when you are in your home country, nothing good will come of it.
My policy is not to fuck bargirls if they have a foreign boyfriend, but if they have a sucker who sends them money for nothing, no problem.
Explorer8939
02-04-23, 03:13
A typical Pattaya story: a bargirl has been working Pattaya bars for years with hundreds of Farang customers. Of course, she has a Thai husband, but he doesn't care what she does with Farangs.
Two weeks ago, she switched to a Thai bar. She already has a new Thai boyfriend, one of her customers. Her husband is going to be very angry, very soon.
I didn't and will not watch the video.
People are supposed to rate girls on thumbnail. Just a gauge to sense what people here find attractive.Maybe just post the picture of the thumbnail? When I click the link it just takes me to the video so I don't see any thumbnail.
Tinder and Bumble are best, Hinge was total failure. Hinge had a lot of old age profiles around 40 ish.
Believe you me, I have had 40 matches on tinder in 45 days in Pattaya. I fucked 2 girls out of those 40. Man, still miss the 1st one. Perfect girl friend experience she gave in 1500 baht for one hour. 33 year old white, tall, thai busty chick. I pushed her away to go. Tinder has more of pros or chicks who would straight away quote 2 K short time, some of them are really beautiful and sexy. 2 chicks I gave a counter offer of 1. 5 k and they said no. I did not push, pursue, request again or bargain and moved on as Pattaya has a lot of pussy for everyone at various price points. But they were really beautiful, young, slender and sexy chicks.
Bumble has more of non pros. I am connected to a Moroccon chick in Bangkok, pure white, beautiful and wow figure. A few on Bumble are young girls working their day time shifts, a few divorced sexy moms and a few around 28 to 30 year old girls looking for fun. I have yet to explore the dating route in Bangkok of the girls matched.
I have put my all genuine pictures on both apps, absolutely original profile of what I do for work and what I am looking for. Last year, been twice to Vietnam, once to Nepal and once to Thailand so have a lot of travel stories and pics, recent ones which I do share with the chicks. My success rate in Bumble is good even in my home country but tinder is a dud here.
Can you expand on your use of dating apps? Specifically, which ones worked well for dating type of hookups? I only used TF when I was there which I didn't find useful for dating. Perhaps Bumble and Tinder are better for that?
I see a lot of 5's and 6's in the video, certainly no 8's or 9's. I'm thinking about Medellin in March but I've read Covid is a problem now and that numerous flights out of Medellin have been cancelled. Good to hear from Uncle V again.Where did you get the info about flights out of Medellin have been canceled? Nothing could be further from the truth. During the entire Covid period, Medellin was closed to visitors for a couple of months only, from March to December 2020.
Maybe just post the picture of the thumbnail? When I click the link it just takes me to the video so I don't see any thumbnail.Yes, that would be better if the idea is we are only supposed to rate the thumbnails.
I had to click around until three thumbnails came up. They were of three of the 6-7 girls in the 10 minute video. In my judgement only the middle girl's thumbnail fairly accurately depicts the way she comes across in the video. The other two thumbnails are so heavily shopped or doctored they barely resemble how those two girls look in the video.
Strange test. Not sure what it was meant to show. Nobody is going to meet anyone who looks like the first and third thumbnails really. Only the second one.
Banana Boi
02-04-23, 06:10
The Thai girlls are too Thai looking for me. I prefer them more Euro mix looking. Only girl in that video I could possibly consider is the blonde from around 9:09 to the end of the video. Which bar is she from?
Expat American
02-04-23, 07:11
The Thai girlls are too Thai looking for me. I prefer them more Euro mix looking. Only girl in that video I could possibly consider is the blonde from around 9:09 to the end of the video. Which bar is she from?Do you even realize how stupid this sounds? Do you go into a Thai restaurant and expect French food?
ElMexicant
02-04-23, 07:51
Do you even realize how stupid this sounds? Do you go into a Thai restaurant and expect French food?
The Thai girlls are too Thai looking for me. I prefer them more Euro mix looking. Only girl in that video I could possibly consider is the blonde from around 9:09 to the end of the video. Which bar is she from?I think BB meant traditional Thai looks. He is correct. There are different mixes in Thai culture for women, just the same as the Filipinas. Some are mixed with European. Some are mixed with ethnic Chinese. Some mixed with Japanese. Some were mixed with Indian and so on and so on. It's like someone failing when they look at a girl and say she has an American look, yet America is now mixed with all sorts of colors and creeds.
Maybe ElMexicant can step in here and answer this. Barfines in Bangkok have always been cheaper than Pattaya for many years. Even by early 2016 Sensations was 2000 BF before midnight. Prices to the girls are generally the same since 2015 (3k ST, 5k LT). I assume Nana ladyboys ask for much less. For me I always felt drinks for myself and lady drinks are more costly in BKK but this varies widely on which gogo bar you go to.
If by tonight you mean Friday night go early it'll be a zoo. Maybe 8:30 pm to either Palace, Baccara, or Pin Up. I'm not sure what you mean by pushy. Have never had a single Pattaya gogo bar ask me to buy another drink after I bought my initial drink. In a place like Crazy House in BKK yes waitresses and mamasans are extremely pushy. If you mean pushy girls that all depends on an individual's ability to say no to a girl. Same applies to Germany FKK clubs. Yes at times an ugly won't leave you alone so I'm either firm with her or I grab the girl I'm interested in and talk to her absolutely ignoring ugmo.Dude below doesn't go to GoGo bars and gets Beach Road girls while rating them an 8. So I just keep my comments to myself. Rainbow BF is now 1000. Nana operates more like a brothel while Walking Street the girls want the weekend millionaires to go party at Hollywood, Bar, Myst, Republic, 808 and so on. You spend way much more money for the top end girls at Walking Street. Only way you get them for barfine, a few drinks, and short time of 3000, is towards closing. Then you have to question what type of girl at that quality is still here at closing? Anybody who thinks the prettiest and the best quality girls at GoGo bars on WS are available to ANYBODY is delusional. More times than not, you will have to spend out of the wazoo or settle for 3rd or 4th or 5th choice. It's a competition in there along with the other customers. Back in the days, they were getting 30-45 drinks a night. Then don't need a barfine. Many first timers come to Thailand and get a dose of reality quick when they get rejected or told "I am on period" messing around with top end GoGo bar girls.
Yes BKK IMO has better looking girls. I don't go into a go go bars anymore as I think they are major ripoffs so maybe my assessment isn't the best for a go go's. However when I walk around Nana Plaza in Bangkok and compare it to walking street and Soi 6 in Pattaya, hands down the girls that stand around outside are much better looking in Bangkok. Street walkers to me are better in Pattaya, but I'm not seeing a high volume of girls out there. Not sure what the real number is, but definitely less then 100 but you have to walk quite a bit. The massage parlors are the real gem to me when it comes to Bangkok. Definitely good looking girls at very reasonable prices. Pattaya makes my feet hurt because I have to walk so much to find someone doable.
I remember walking by Pin Ups on Sunday and Monday night, but I can't recall if the girls standing outside were hot. I'm fairly certain they were just average as no one really made my head turn on walking street. I probably wouldn't go in there though as they will probably fleece me for lady drinks, and charge me outrageous prices for BF and ST. Let me know if that isn't the case. If it's within reason I may go in there to do some scouting around.
Do you even realize how stupid this sounds? Do you go into a Thai restaurant and expect French food?Hahahaha. Once I was in a PH bar and a guy complained that he flew all this way and there were no Russians.
I guess you can't please everyone.
I was reading on facebook last night. A guy that used to own a bar said some guy paid a two week barfine for a chick to go back home. He said there was no need to because the girl could have freely gone whenever she wanted. As soon as the guy got into the taxi to go to the airport she was back behind the bar. The owner said she did not need to, so when went and worked at the bar across the street.Still waiting a report from someone who practicing this sponsorship thingy, really curious to hear the thinking behind the hobby. Nobody here to share?
My regular told couple of weeks ago that beg Feb she need to go work to Bangkok for 2-3 weeks as her employer had some issues to take care there, and can not see until she back (she indeed is an office lady, but her employer seemingly allows her to take time off). As of Feb 1st her pic in her tf profile removed, and comment added she will be back later. Couple of days later love pics with sponsor 'BF' in a pool villa started appearing in her fb. The poor guy is probably truly unaware of her business once he goes out. The funny thing is that she is really hideous about the whole thing to her customers and probably truly believes that her customers believe the illogical BS she tells when she disappears. Tempting to send a pm to the guy to ask if she aware of her freelancing biz, including her review page in TFMI 555.
Uncle Volodya
02-04-23, 13:12
I see a lot of 5's and 6's in the video, certainly no 8's or 9's. I'm thinking about Medellin in March but I've read Covid is a problem now and that numerous flights out of Medellin have been cancelled. Good to hear from Uncle V again.Thanks, man. TBH a few white knight experiences that burned my bridges with a few girls kind of put me off from posting for a while. Though these were on the Pattaya addicts thread.
I'm also mulling over my options for March. I may even go back to Cuba. I am back in contact with one of my really sweet and lovely girls from there. But flying there from the US and then back to Russia seems like a huge pain in the ass as far as organizing flights, visas, etc.
Returning to Pattaya after covid just now and I remember my daytime starting 2 pm was usually spent at Kinnaree where atmosphere was relaxed, off the beaten tourist track and ladies pretty hot and young (at least some of them). I read in some reports from November that Kinnaree is going down in quality and attitude of girls and atmosphere. Has anyone gone there recently? Usually the Kinnaree was my reason to rent a scooter in pattaya, so I wonder if that's worth now.
Besides Kinnaree, any other gentlemen clubs where to spend relaxed afternoon with some action?
Thanks!
Banana Boi
02-04-23, 16:54
Usually the Kinnaree was my reason to rent a scooter in pattaya, so I wonder if that's worth now.
Besides Kinnaree, any other gentlemen clubs where to spend relaxed afternoon with some action?
No longer a need to rent a scooter to get to Kinnaree now that ride share is legal. I was taking Bolt from LK Metro area for 70-80 baht IIRC. There is baht bus too for 10 baht but you will have to walk around 15-20 minutes to Kinnaree after getting off the baht bus. Is arriving at Kinnaree all sweaty really worth saving 70 baht? Time is money for me in Pattaya. Rather spend 70 baht more and save around 30 minutes.
Afternoon you can head to the Kinnaree, Passion, Cosy Beach, and other Jomtien "G clubs" combination. You can do the Full Love Inn bars. You can try your luck walking along Buakhao. You can on occasion find a gem in one of those massage shops. You can do Soi 6. You can hook up with one of the gogo girls you met the night before or get a girl from TF.
Dude below doesn't go to GoGo bars and gets Beach Road girls while rating them an 8. So I just keep my comments to myself..Well first of all I didn't rate a single Beach Road girl an 8. The best I gave was a 7. I've been to the a go go's before and that's why I know they aren't my thing. The vast majority of the girls are average, and the better looking ones seems to want to fleece you for your money as you described. I'd rather fuck a 6 or 7 for a reasonable price then waste alot of money on an a go go bar.
Mr Enternational
02-04-23, 17:59
Still waiting a report from someone who practicing this sponsorship thingy, really curious to hear the thinking behind the hobby. Nobody here to share?Well your question was the same of the guy that started the thread where I read that. I think there were 200 replies but I did not see what I would consider any legit answers. Basically I guess the senders were saying: 1. They needed it to care for their families. 2. Better to give directly to them than a charity where there are big wigs and middle men that will benefit from it.
One guy's response was the same as mine would have been: These guys get no attention where they are from that when the go somewhere and someone shows them a modicum of attention, they go off the deep end and keep giving money to try to keep getting the attention.
After 200 responses, here is the original poster's final conclusion:
"Thanks for all the feedback but I guess I will still never understand I mean they are not wives or even girlfriends they are just everybody's bargirl."
Returning to Pattaya after covid just now and I remember my daytime starting 2 pm was usually spent at Kinnaree where atmosphere was relaxed, off the beaten tourist track and ladies pretty hot and young (at least some of them). I read in some reports from November that Kinnaree is going down in quality and attitude of girls and atmosphere. Has anyone gone there recently? Usually the Kinnaree was my reason to rent a scooter in pattaya, so I wonder if that's worth now.
Besides Kinnaree, any other gentlemen clubs where to spend relaxed afternoon with some action?
Thanks!Girl quality during the day isn't all that great in Pattaya. At least in regards to the places I've been to. I've tried looking around massage places on Soi 13/1, Soi 13/2, Soi Chalermphrakiat 25, and some other streets off of Soi Buakhao and they are all old, fat, ugly or ladyboys. I also went to Jomtien to try out a couple of GC's. Passion's is overrated if you ask me. Maybe saw one 7, a couple of 6's and the rest were 5 and below. Which isn't all that bad, however the issue is that there are so many guys there. It's as if this is the only daytime action or something so there are probably 3 or 4 guys for everyone 1 girl in there. I tried KitCat Club, and that is a waste of time. Hardly any girls, and of the girls there they weren't fuckable to me. I haven't tried the Soapy massages, but at 3 k to 5 k+ baht for better looking girls I'm hesitant to do it. It's hard for me to shell out that much dough because I think it's over inflated when compared to Europe and South America where I can get 9's and 10's for that much or less. If there really is a former Miss Thailand or Playboy bunny in there sure no problem I'll gladly pay that or more, but I highly doubt they are in there.
The 2 week millionaires promise to support ladies if they stop working bar and go back to the village to wait for them. It generally only takes a month or so for the 2 week guy to suffer buyer's regret and stop sending money.
In some cases, the lady won't go back to the village, she will stay in Pattaya with her Thai boyfriend, and use the sponsor's money for drinking. The sponsor will call her, which is very irritating for the lady, as she has to pretend to be in the village.
I know one lady who got 200,000 baht to go back to the village. She didn't go. The next guy promised her 70,000 baht a year, but continually, so then she went. She stayed in the village for 7 years, only coming to Pattaya to see her sponsor for 2 weeks every year. The 7th year, she stuck around in Pattaya after the sponsor went home, met another guy, got knocked up, and spit out a kid. That ended the sponsorship.
The point is that the 2 week millionaires take ladies off the market for some period after Christmas holiday.Ok, so basically the two week millionaires are cock blockers.
Do you even realize how stupid this sounds? Do you go into a Thai restaurant and expect French food?Not all that stupid. You could go to a Thai restaurant and get french fries.
I'm reading really disturbing reviews of the low quality of girls in Pattaya. My last trip to Thailand was 8 years ago and spent mostly in Bangkok. Back then my trip was worthwhile as I encountered girls of similar or even better quality than those I banged in Colombia. I have not been to Pattaya in several decades. For those who have been to both places recently how do girls available in Pattaya generally compare to Colombian chicas?
Do you even realize how stupid this sounds? Do you go into a Thai restaurant and expect French food?To be clear, the majority of girls that you see working in Pattaya are not the standards for beauty in Thailand. Much like any country on this earth, the majority of the population aren't that good looking. So when someone says a typical Thai look that's just describing the general population, which I can apply to any country. I walk down any street in America and the majority of people are just fat, so I could say that I don't like the typical American look just as easily.
ElMexicant
02-04-23, 18:58
Well first of all I didn't rate a single Beach Road girl an 8. The best I gave was a 7. I've been to the a go go's before and that's why I know they aren't my thing. The vast majority of the girls are average, and the better looking ones seems to want to fleece you for your money as you described. I'd rather fuck a 6 or 7 for a reasonable price then waste a lot of money on an a go go bar."I saw some gems last night as well on Beach Road. I think I saw an 8. She looked like one of those cute J-Pop girls. Nice slim figure, white skin and cute face. Unfortunately a guy was on her quick so I couldn't go with her."
Well. Then you need to place a citizen's arrest on whomever hijacked and hacked your account and wrote this if it wasn't you. Dunno why I even bother. Guess there goes your first of all. I am ready for the second of all now. I have been in Pattaya for 5. 5 months out of the last 6.25 months. Quite sure I know what's on the ground and what's not. You were giving an 8 to a "ladybug. " LOL.
I'm reading really disturbing reviews of the low quality of girls in Pattaya. My last trip to Thailand was 8 years ago and spent mostly in Bangkok. Back then my trip was worthwhile as I encountered girls of similar or even better quality than those I banged in Colombia. I have not been to Pattaya in several decades. For those who have been to both places recently how do girls available in Pattaya generally compare to Colombian chicas?I was in Colombia right before I came to Thailand in December. I'm still here in Thailand, and this is the first time I've ever been to Pattaya. If you ask me where I would rather purely monger, I would choose Colombia all day every day. It's so easy to find and bang hot girls in Colombia for reasonable prices. Plenty of 8's that can be found at the price range of $150 k-$300 k pesos so around $30 to $60 dollars. In Thailand it doesn't seem too easy to find 8's at reasonable prices. I had a hell of a time finding an 8 here in Pattaya. I've seen some a go go girls on Walking Street that I would say are 8's. However per several people reporting top walking street a go go girl's aren't cheap so value isn't really there. Probably the largest collection of 8's I've seen in any one place is in Bangkok at Thermae. However they aren't cheap either. They are asking for 3 k baht, but some are accepting 2. 5 k baht so that works out to be around $80 to $100 dollars. I just hate paying that much, so in Thailand finding myself more willing to go for 7's and sometimes 6's which can be had for $1 k to $2 k so around $30 to $60. I don't really regret coming to Thailand. First of all there is no comparison when it comes to food, entertainment, and tourism. I would take Thailand all day and everyday if you ask me where would I rather vacation. If I could do it, I would live in Thailand and visit Colombia when I want a monger vacation. Actually if I lived in Thailand I would rather monger in Europe as that is a closer destination.
Explorer8939
02-04-23, 19:15
Ok, so basically the two week millionaires are cock blockers.That's their goal. They are hoping that a few hundred dollars a month will stop a bargirl from fucking other guys.
The reverse is actually true, send a Thai lady enough money and she will be able to buy more Thai boys. Or land a young Farang.
There is no upside in sending money to a Thai lady.
Explorer8939
02-04-23, 19:16
I'm reading really disturbing reviews of the low quality of girls in Pattaya. My last trip to Thailand was 8 years ago and spent mostly in Bangkok. Back then my trip was worthwhile as I encountered girls of similar or even better quality than those I banged in Colombia. I have not been to Pattaya in several decades. For those who have been to both places recently how do girls available in Pattaya generally compare to Colombian chicas?You are hearing a longstanding whine. That the ladies aren't as good as 10 years ago. This was first posted on this forum in 1996.
Explorer8939
02-04-23, 19:20
The Thai girlls are too Thai looking for me. I prefer them more Euro mix looking. Only girl in that video I could possibly consider is the blonde from around 9:09 to the end of the video. Which bar is she from?The base racial makeup for most of Thailand is Mon (basically Cambodian) since the Thais only arrived recently in Thailand. But, Thailand is in IndoChina, which means that both Indian and Chinese influences are obvious, as well. Plus any Farang genetic contributions.
Check out Whisper Lounge, Soi Rungland.
Returning to Pattaya after covid just now and I remember my daytime starting 2 pm was usually spent at Kinnaree where atmosphere was relaxed, off the beaten tourist track and ladies pretty hot and young (at least some of them). I read in some reports from November that Kinnaree is going down in quality and attitude of girls and atmosphere. Has anyone gone there recently? Usually the Kinnaree was my reason to rent a scooter in pattaya, so I wonder if that's worth now.
Besides Kinnaree, any other gentlemen clubs where to spend relaxed afternoon with some action?
Thanks!
Where did you get the info about flights out of Medellin have been canceled? Nothing could be further from the truth. During the entire Covid period, Medellin was closed to visitors for a couple of months only, from March to December 2020.It was in a Medellin forum on this or another website. I assume you are correct.
I was in Colombia right before I came to Thailand in December. I'm still here in Thailand, and this is the first time I've ever been to Pattaya. If you ask me where I would rather purely monger, I would choose Colombia all day every day. It's so easy to find and bang hot girls in Colombia for reasonable prices. Plenty of 8's that can be found at the price range of $150 k-$300 k pesos so around $30 to $60 dollars. In Thailand it doesn't seem too easy to find 8's at reasonable prices. I had a hell of a time finding an 8 here in Pattaya. I've seen some a go go girls on Walking Street that I would say are 8's. However per several people reporting top walking street a go go girl's aren't cheap so value isn't really there. Probably the largest collection of 8's I've seen in any one place is in Bangkok at Thermae. However they aren't cheap either. They are asking for 3 k baht, but some are accepting 2. 5 k baht so that works out to be around $80 to $100 dollars. I just hate paying that much, so in Thailand finding myself more willing to go for 7's and sometimes 6's which can be had for $1 k to $2 k so around $30 to $60. I don't really regret coming to Thailand. First of all there is no comparison when it comes to food, entertainment, and tourism. I would take Thailand all day and everyday if you ask me where would I rather vacation. If I could do it, I would live in Thailand and visit Colombia when I want a monger vacation. Actually if I lived in Thailand I would rather monger in Europe as that is a closer destination.I would disagree with that statement that there are plenty of 8's that are easily.
Available for $30 to $60. I'm posting this from Medellin right now. I don't want guys to get the wrong idea that you can easily find these girls. If you do some research and put in some time and effort, yes you may be able to find these girls. But if you're coming for the first time, you are unlikely to find these girls at those prices very easily at all. But you can easily find 6/7 girls at the casas for $10-15 for non-GFE activities.
The great thing about Pattaya Is that you can easily find girls for a reasonable price without much effort. But it is true that most of the girls you find are six or sevens or older. Take a walk on Soi 6 and you can find your 8 for a reasonable price.
Cha Chumplin
02-04-23, 20:21
Maybe just post the picture of the thumbnail? When I click the link it just takes me to the video so I don't see any thumbnail.Thanks for the heads up.
It's quite an effort to post you tube links. LOL. Hahaha.
MartinFlevo
02-04-23, 22:25
Guys,
Talked to a manager of a gogobar today and he said barfines are now 2. 000 THB and up these days? Can someone confirm?
Seems that this (and lady drinks going into 200 THB and higher) makes Pattaya not worth the trip anymore if you are into Gogobars?
For obvious reason I won't disclose the name of the Gogo this guys work but I know him for several years and don't think he got a reason to lie.
Mr Enternational
02-04-23, 22:51
Where did you get the info about flights out of Medellin have been canceled? Nothing could be further from the truth. During the entire Covid period, Medellin was closed to visitors for a couple of months only, from March to December 2020.I think he was talking about this post in reference to Spirit from the Medellin thread 2 weeks ago.
I had a flight to and from MDE, but it was cancelled. I went to their website and they have no flights out of MDE after the first week. Anyone know what is going on?
I texted them to get my refund, and they told me it had something to do with COVID cases in Medellin.
Tinder and Bumble are best, Hinge was total failure. Hinge had a lot of old age profiles around 40 ish.
Believe you me, I have had 40 matches on tinder in 45 days in Pattaya. I fucked 2 girls out of those 40. Man, still miss the 1st one. Perfect girl friend experience she gave in 1500 baht for one hour. 33 year old white, tall, thai busty chick. I pushed her away to go. Tinder has more of pros or chicks who would straight away quote 2 K short time, some of them are really beautiful and sexy. 2 chicks I gave a counter offer of 1. 5 k and they said no. I did not push, pursue, request again or bargain and moved on as Pattaya has a lot of pussy for everyone at various price points. But they were really beautiful, young, slender and sexy chicks.
Bumble has more of non pros. I am connected to a Moroccon chick in Bangkok, pure white, beautiful and wow figure. A few on Bumble are young girls working their day time shifts, a few divorced sexy moms and a few around 28 to 30 year old girls looking for fun. I have yet to explore the dating route in Bangkok of the girls matched.
I have put my all genuine pictures on both apps, absolutely original profile of what I do for work and what I am looking for. Last year, been twice to Vietnam, once to Nepal and once to Thailand so have a lot of travel stories and pics, recent ones which I do share with the chicks. My success rate in Bumble is good even in my home country but tinder is a dud here.Thanks for the intel. I used only TF when I was there which probably wasn't a good decision for trying to get non-pros. I'll have to try Bumble next time I'm out there.
Banana Boi
02-05-23, 02:17
I'm reading really disturbing reviews of the low quality of girls in Pattaya. My last trip to Thailand was 8 years ago Don't expect anything close to what you saw 8 years ago in Bangkok or Pattaya. The same applies to FKK clubs. FKK clubs are about 1% of what they were 8 years ago when they were full of Hungarian, Czech, Polish, Russian model like girls.
Don't expect anything close to what you saw 8 years ago in Bangkok or Pattaya. The same applies to FKK clubs. FKK clubs are about 1% of what they were 8 years ago when they were full of Hungarian, Czech, Polish, Russian model like girls.Visiting an FKK is on my bucket list. And you just poured some cold water on it. What changed so drastically in the last 8 years I wonder. Understand this is off topic for this location but would love to hear it from the horses mouth.
HorseTrader
02-05-23, 03:06
...Understand this is off topic for this location but would love to hear it from the horses mouth.I'm the only horse around here and I've never been to an FKK. Sorry, I can't help you.
Just a joke. Not a good joke, but a joke.
Banana Boi
02-05-23, 03:47
Visiting an FKK is on my bucket list. And you just poured some cold water on it. What changed so drastically in the last 8 years I wonder. Understand this is off topic for this location but would love to hear it from the horses mouth.No more Hungarians, Polish, Czech, or Russian girls and void of any nationalities other than Romanian and Bulgarian. Not that there aren't the odd super hot Ro girls but before you could walk in to many different clubs and find 20-30 girls you want to go with. Now you're lucky to find more than 1. Gets expensive looking for girls after paying 50 to 80 euro entry fee for 2 or 4 clubs per day. Prices for what I consider a basic session including DFK has jumped from 50 to 150 euro and if you want CIM, anal, DFK, BBFS, etc add 50 euro extra for each item you want. Used to be 100's of girls in a larger club now there's like 50-70. I'll be there in June again and hope to be able to give a more positive update.
Just a warning don't believe most of what you read on the FKK forums. If you notice there are a ton of handles who only seem to know a handful of girls. I can't be the only person who finds that odd.
Talked to a manager of a gogobar today and he said barfines are now 2. 000 THB and up these days? Can someone confirm?
Seems that this (and lady drinks going into 200 THB and higher) makes Pattaya not worth the trip anymore if you are into Gogobars?
Can't confirm for you if you don't name the bar. 2000 barfines have been around since 2016. Sensations and What's Up to name a couple at that time. They started the tiered BF. They were both in the top 5 gogo bars at the time so could do it. Best deal back in those days that had decent girls was Happy agogo.
Model drinks have been 200 baht since they introduced the model (ie topless) system in 2017(?). Are you saying drinks for all gogo girls are 200 now? Don't slam Pattaya drink prices. Go buy some lady drinks at some of the BKK or Phuket gogo bars. You'll be wishing you were in Pattaya.
Drink prices don't bother me at all. I look at it like the price of admission to a boring movie. However, with prices increasing I both expect more DFK and mutual groping. Also no request for a second drink any time soon.
Visiting an FKK is on my bucket list. And you just poured some cold water on it. What changed so drastically in the last 8 years I wonder. Understand this is off topic for this location but would love to hear it from the horses mouth.The pandemic has totally devastated the talent pool. I was there last February and things were definitely not as good as they once were. However I look at mongering in Europe as a whole and FKK's are just part of my overall mongering. I visit many other places around Europe as well. FKK's are still lots of fun. Go to one of the bigger and better clubs and it's great to spend all day there. Free food, saunas, swimming pools, and hot naked girls walking around so the entry fee is worth it to me. 50 euros can still get you basic service from any chick in an FKK, but I often opt for the 100 euros for 1 hour including DFK and BBJ. When I was there the bigger clubs still had plenty of 8's and 9's, but the smaller clubs were total trash and a waste of time. Hopefully now that COVID is a thing of the past and the talent is returning. I'll find out in April when I return to Europe!
ElMexicant
02-05-23, 05:57
I read this rating stuff a shit load and to me, it makes absolutely NO sense whatsoever coming from guys who just throw out a random number. They have no basis for their ratings. First of all a 10 is PERFECT score. How they hell can you tell what her body looks like from a picture or with clothes on? Tits maybe sloppy. Giant pussy lips that hang. Stretch marks underneath the ass. She gets old. And what about make up off? So how do you rate them a 10? Stupid. That's PERFECT. Come on now.
Then for there to be 9,8,7,6. There must be 1,2,3,4. Or the scale isn't a fucking scale. You take a sample population like all the girls at Nightwish bar Soi 6. You line them up from ugliest to hottest or who would you fuck first to last. Then you can assign them rating numbers. That's how I see a scale works. So when guys say a girl is 7. What does that mean? Better than 70% of all women ages 18-68? What's the population sample we are talking about? Then they argue and debate on their rankings. Silly. So I'll make it easy.
Not fuckable at all.
Fuckable if she paid me.
Fuckable for free / dating.
Fuckable I will pay.
Fuckable I will over pay.
I will earn my red wings and over pay.
I will let her piss in my mouth and use my tongue as toilet paper and over pay.
These are a few of my recent "fuckable I will pay. " Not the prettiest or best lookers, one kind of funky looking. But as I look at the crowd on Khaosan the other night, I would not trade these girls in the pics for 95% of the civilians females aged 18-68 that I saw. Especially when I've seen them naked already. So then you have your population sample in Khaosan, then you can scale and assign numbers accordingly.
Explorer8939
02-05-23, 07:27
Ok, so basically the two week millionaires are cock blockers.Talk about taking it to extremes, a bargirl I know met a guy over Christmas, he went home and just came back, and they got married in the temple today.
I guess she will be off the market for a while.
Banana Boi
02-05-23, 07:33
T50 euros can still get you basic service from any chick in an FKK,I can choose ANY girl at Oase, Sharks, Palace in FRA and Samya in Cologne and have sex with her for 50 euro? This is contrary to everything I have been hearing for the top girls.
I can choose ANY girl at Oase, Sharks, Palace in FRA and Samya in Cologne and have sex with her for 50 euro? This is contrary to everything I have been hearing for the top girls.Well to be fair I mainly opted for the 100 euro all inclusive, but I did session a couple times for basic service at 50 euros without issues.
Everyone agrees on a standard of beauty when it's obvious. Every girl in this video is smoking. Unless you're gay you would agree. They are all grandmas now but there is a standard out there and this video is it.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=128LI6_4L-s
MartinFlevo
02-05-23, 09:14
2000 barfines have been around since 2016. Sensations and What's Up to name a couple at that time.
Model drinks have been 200 baht since they introduced the model (ie topless) system in 2017(?). Are you saying drinks for all gogo girls are 200 now? Agree with what you say on the FKK's. The golden days are over for sure.
And it seems that barfines are 2 K now EVERYWHERE. So not only in the top5 gogos but. Lets make it the top 20?
Same for LD that are just up for inflation (excuse).
ElMexicant
02-05-23, 10:02
Guys,
Talked to a manager of a gogobar today and he said barfines are now 2. 000 THB and up these days? Can someone confirm?
Seems that this (and lady drinks going into 200 THB and higher) makes Pattaya not worth the trip anymore if you are into Gogobars?
For obvious reason I won't disclose the name of the Gogo this guys work but I know him for several years and don't think he got a reason to lie.You apparently do frequent Gogo bars. 2000 barfine has been the amount for models at most GoGo bars. Coyotes barfines are different and hostesses as well. Pricing before midnight and after midnight is a factor as well. It's been this way even before COVID. There are places still with no models like Baccara, Windmill, etc where it's much cheaper. Barfines are rolled into the girls salaries and contract. So yeah, if you are paying 2000 plus 3000ST plus 4 200 baht drinks. All of that goes to the girl. 5800 for ST. This might only translate to $175 for a couple of hours to tourists, but considering cost of living index and money value in Thailand (3. 5 X) is actually about $600 in what they can spend it on. So yeah, it's not cheap. There are guys who spend 10,000 on up a night for 1 girl.
Those who are frequent flyers at Gogo bars and have a good reputation with the staff and girls get them at much cheaper prices. I've had girls pay their own barfines out of their own pocket just to come party and be able to leave early. I've had girls accept 1 drink or 0 drink. I've had models only accept 2000ST and even 1500ST if they see me before or after work. Long stay guys have it much easier than weekend warriors. I've been both. I like the cheaper option as long as I am not sacrificing quality.
Well to be fair I mainly opted for the 100 euro all inclusive, but I did session a couple times for basic service at 50 euros without issues.100E for 30 minutes is now common in Hessen clubs, it started in Sharks and has spread to a lot of other places. Up in Dusseldorf, you can find a few places where the price is still 50E. What's even worse, is that the girls charge more for what they call extra's which may include BBBJ. Don't forget about the cost of admission, 30E - 80E depending on the club and time.
Lucky Nuts
02-05-23, 13:20
Just spent ten days in Pattaya. Most of the gogo's barfine is 1500 baht. One place the mama told me 2000 baht. I can't remember which place. Pin ups has the best line-up but most nights in there it's packed with young Asian guys. Other nights it's not. Even the weekend it wasn't packed. So it's worth checking out to see how busy it is. When it's packed I just turn around and leave because I won't be able to get any attention from the hot girls. Tanta is cozy and comfortable and pretty much a white guy place. I also liked XS and Palace and did some barfines at all these. So maybe Pin-ups was the 2000 place because I don't think I barfined a girl there. Overall the scene felt more welcoming than 4 years ago but the talent not as good.
I probably met about 8 thaifriendly girls. One was very good looking and similar to her photos. One was so different I only gave her taxi money and said good-bye. The others ranged from good enough to make my dick hard to "I only want a massage please". I learned that girls asking 1500 baht are girls that I'm not interested in meeting. TF is a real crap shoot but something to do during the daytime hours if you're just otherwise hanging out. I didn't even visit soi 6 this trip as that's really not my scene.
Every night I walked from about center strip to walking street. Lots of girls saying "Hello," the entire way. Of course more as I would near WS. I almost never interacted with the girls except to offer a polite "Hello," back at them. But my second to last night there was sort of a stunner along the way. We chatted a couple minutes and she sent me a Line message as I don't always carry my phone with me. I wasn't interested in taking her right then because it was still early only about 10 PM and I didn't take a pill yet to make my dick hard. So anyhow she came over to my hotel the next night and it was by far the best session of my trip. She's 20 years old, 43 kg and no baby. Told her she should be working in a gogo club and she said everybody tells her that but said she doesn't want a boss. So anyhow there are needles in the haystack to be found on beach road. I've spent months in Pattaya and finally had my first beach road girl haha. As she left told me she's not supposed to have feelings for customer but does for me. Yeah she's pretty new to the game. Her short time price is 1300 baht. I haven't asked enough girls to know the going rate out there but it would be apples and oranges anyhow.
Regarding FKK clubs yes unfortunately the scene has completely gone to hell there. Don't go unless you just want to check that box. Glad I visited many of them the couple years before Covid as prices just basically doubled post-covid. It makes no sense at all and I will no longer be making an annual trip to Frankfurt.
I'm still in Thailand and so will not be giving away any hot girl contacts that I've met. On the other hand if someone has something to trade I'm open-minded on that. Same in Bangkok.
Enjoy and treat the girls well.
No more Hungarians, Polish, Czech, or Russian girls and void of any nationalities other than Romanian and Bulgarian. Not that there aren't the odd super hot Ro girls but before you could walk in to many different clubs and find 20-30 girls you want to go with. Now you're lucky to find more than 1. Gets expensive looking for girls after paying 50 to 80 euro entry fee for 2 or 4 clubs per day. Prices for what I consider a basic session including DFK has jumped from 50 to 150 euro and if you want CIM, anal, DFK, BBFS, etc add 50 euro extra for each item you want. Used to be 100's of girls in a larger club now there's like 50-70. I'll be there in June again and hope to be able to give a more positive update.
Just a warning don't believe most of what you read on the FKK forums. If you notice there are a ton of handles who only seem to know a handful of girls. I can't be the only person who finds that odd.
Can't confirm for you if you don't name the bar. 2000 barfines have been around since 2016. Sensations and What's Up to name a couple at that time. They started the tiered BF. They were both in the top 5 gogo bars at the time so could do it. Best deal back in those days that had decent girls was Happy agogo.
Model drinks have been 200 baht since they introduced the model (ie topless) system in 2017(?). Are you saying drinks for all gogo girls are 200 now? Don't slam Pattaya drink prices. Go buy some lady drinks at some of the BKK or Phuket gogo bars. You'll be wishing you were in Pattaya.
Drink prices don't bother me at all. I look at it like the price of admission to a boring movie. However, with prices increasing I both expect more DFK and mutual groping. Also no request for a second drink any time soon.Wow wtf Germany has tripled in price up to 150? That's insane. What about the red light houses and europarks?
Christian G
02-05-23, 15:26
but I did session a couple times for basic service at 50 euros without issues.Basic service is mean no FK and CBJ?
Just spent ten days in Pattaya. Most of the gogo's barfine is 1500 baht. One place the mama told me 2000 baht. I can't remember which place. Pin ups has the best line-up but most nights in there it's packed with young Asian guys. Other nights it's not. Even the weekend it wasn't packed. So it's worth checking out to see how busy it is. When it's packed I just turn around and leave because I won't be able to get any attention from the hot girls. Tanta is cozy and comfortable and pretty much a white guy place. I also liked XS and Palace and did some barfines at all these. So maybe Pin-ups was the 2000 place because I don't think I barfined a girl there. Overall the scene felt more welcoming than 4 years ago but the talent not as good.
I probably met about 8 thaifriendly girls. One was very good looking and similar to her photos. One was so different I only gave her taxi money and said good-bye. The others ranged from good enough to make my dick hard to "I only want a massage please". I learned that girls asking 1500 baht are girls that I'm not interested in meeting. TF is a real crap shoot but something to do during the daytime hours if you're just otherwise hanging out. I didn't even visit soi 6 this trip as that's really not my scene.
Every night I walked from about center strip to walking street. Lots of girls saying "Hello," the entire way. Of course more as I would near WS. I almost never interacted with the girls except to offer a polite "Hello," back at them. But my second to last night there was sort of a stunner along the way. We chatted a couple minutes and she sent me a Line message as I don't always carry my phone with me. I wasn't interested in taking her right then because it was still early only about 10 PM and I didn't take a pill yet to make my dick hard. So anyhow she came over to my hotel the next night and it was by far the best session of my trip. She's 20 years old, 43 kg and no baby. Told her she should be working in a gogo club and she said everybody tells her that but said she doesn't want a boss. So anyhow there are needles in the haystack to be found on beach road. I've spent months in Pattaya and finally had my first beach road girl haha. As she left told me she's not supposed to have feelings for customer but does for me. Yeah she's pretty new to the game. Her short time price is 1300 baht. I haven't asked enough girls to know the going rate out there but it would be apples and oranges anyhow.
Regarding FKK clubs yes unfortunately the scene has completely gone to hell there. Don't go unless you just want to check that box. Glad I visited many of them the couple years before Covid as prices just basically doubled post-covid. It makes no sense at all and I will no longer be making an annual trip to Frankfurt.
I'm still in Thailand and so will not be giving away any hot girl contacts that I've met. On the other hand if someone has something to trade I'm open-minded on that. Same in Bangkok.
Enjoy and treat the girls well.Long expensive flights plus room and board just to find a needle in the haystack? You can skip the flight and hunt elsewhere if it's that hard.
Basic service is mean no FK and CBJ?That's right, pretty basic. A quick hit it and quit it. Probably not most guy's thing but they are smoking hot so it's not hard for me to nut. I don't need BBBJ and DFK from all girls. DFK sometimes disgust me thinking about how many dick she sucked that day and if she used mouth wash.
Long expensive flights plus room and board just to find a needle in the haystack? You can skip the flight and hunt elsewhere if it's that hard.Think of it this way, Thailand is a beautiful country where you have beautiful malls, cheap amazing food, amazing shopping, beautiful islands, and a rich culture. Any girl you are able to get is just icing on the cake. I would never choose this as my go-to location for mongering, but I enjoy a great vacation and if there are girls that I can find to fuck then all the better. It may take some time, but if persistent then you will find something to your liking in regards to looks and price. I have in both Bangkok and Pattaya.
Banana Boi
02-05-23, 16:24
I'm still in Thailand and so will not be giving away any hot girl contacts that I've met. On the other hand if someone has something to trade I'm open-minded on that. Same in Bangkok.Glad you guys are having fun. Sorry I'm not there. Go see Minnie at Amsterdam Bar on Full Love Inn. I think she's your type as well as the other guys so share this post with them. YouTube video and my review posted in this thread.
Mr Enternational
02-05-23, 17:07
I read this rating stuff a shit load and to me, it makes absolutely NO sense whatsoever coming from guys who just throw out a random number. They have no basis for their ratings. First of all a 10 is PERFECT score. How they hell can you tell what her body looks like from a picture or with clothes on? Tits maybe sloppy. Giant pussy lips that hang. Stretch marks underneath the ass. She gets old. And what about make up off? So how do you rate them a 10? Stupid. That's PERFECT. Come on now.
Because as with most things it is entirely subjective and relative. One person's perfect meal, house, car, day, woman is not the same as everybody else's. Some people's perfect may be giant pussy lips that hang, or a woman that is older, or pizza with meat. They have a basis for their rating, it is just not the same as your basis. How can you give her a perfect 10 if you can't see the grades she made in school or if you do not know how well she cooks mofongo?
Mr Enternational
02-05-23, 17:15
Long expensive flights plus room and board just to find a needle in the haystack? You can skip the flight and hunt elsewhere if it's that hard.He said ON BEACH ROAD, which is just one of the many ways to find chicks in Pattaya.
Think of it this way, Thailand is a beautiful country where you have beautiful malls, cheap amazing food, amazing shopping, beautiful islands, and a rich culture. Any girl you are able to get is just icing on the cake. I would never choose this as my go-to location for mongering, but I enjoy a great vacation and if there are girls that I can find to fuck then all the better. It may take some time, but if persistent then you will find something to your liking in regards to looks and price. I have in both Bangkok and Pattaya.You succinclty described exactly why I always return to Thailand instead of going elsewhere. Just can't beat the total package of what Thailand has to offer. No if one is strictly travelling for mongering then yes there are probably much better options than Thailand, but when you factor in the total travel experience, Thailand is stoll the goat imo.
Locamotive
02-05-23, 23:40
I read this rating stuff a shit load and to me, it makes absolutely NO sense whatsoever coming from guys who just throw out a random number. They have no basis for their ratings. First of all a 10 is PERFECT score. How they hell can you tell what her body looks like from a picture or with clothes on? Tits maybe sloppy. Giant pussy lips that hang. Stretch marks underneath the ass. She gets old. And what about make up off? So how do you rate them a 10? Stupid. That's PERFECT. Come on now.
Then for there to be 9,8,7,6. There must be 1,2,3,4. Or the scale isn't a fucking scale. You take a sample population like all the girls at Nightwish bar Soi 6. You line them up from ugliest to hottest or who would you fuck first to last. Then you can assign them rating numbers. That's how I see a scale works. So when guys say a girl is 7. What does that mean? Better than 70% of all women ages 18-68? What's the population sample we are talking about? Then they argue and debate on their rankings. Silly. So I'll make it easy.
Not fuckable at all.
Fuckable if she paid me.
Fuckable for free / dating.
Fuckable I will pay.
Fuckable I will over pay.
I will earn my red wings and over pay.
I will let her piss in my mouth and use my tongue as toilet paper and over pay.
These are a few of my recent "fuckable I will pay. " Not the prettiest or best lookers, one kind of funky looking. But as I look at the crowd on Khaosan the other night, I would not trade these girls in the pics for 95% of the civilians females aged 18-68 that I saw. Especially when I've seen them naked already. So then you have your population sample in Khaosan, then you can scale and assign numbers accordingly.Good one. Funny. On the numbers thing, they would all be 8 or 9's in my part of the US. I never see girls that thin.
Lucky Nuts
02-06-23, 04:58
Long expensive flights plus room and board just to find a needle in the haystack? You can skip the flight and hunt elsewhere if it's that hard.Yeah the easy hunting is in Medellin Colombia so that's where I'm ususally at. But after four years I needed some good foot massages haha. Also love the food and hot weather of Thailand. And I usually pull a gogo girl every night. Loving Nana Plaza again this week. Seems like there's more hotties every night than the night before. The "needle in the haystack" was just dumb luck on my way to Walking Street gogos.
Glad you guys are having fun. Sorry I'm not there. Go see Minnie at Amsterdam Bar on Full Love Inn. I think she's your type as well as the other guys so share this post with them. YouTube video and my review posted in this thread.Minnie is hot. I was in Amsterdam bar talking to her, I asked her how much for a BJ and she said she doesn't do BJ. She offered FS and I walked.
Lucky Nuts
02-06-23, 05:10
Glad you guys are having fun. Sorry I'm not there. Go see Minnie at Amsterdam Bar on Full Love Inn. I think she's your type as well as the other guys so share this post with them. YouTube video and my review posted in this thread.Thanks BB and Mjen. I'll check her out next week. I'm ok without the bj if she's hot and tight.
ElMexicant
02-06-23, 06:01
Because as with most things it is entirely subjective and relative. One person's perfect meal, house, car, day, woman is not the same as everybody else's. Some people's perfect may be giant pussy lips that hang, or a woman that is older, or pizza with meat. They have a basis for their rating, it is just not the same as your basis. How can you give her a perfect 10 if you can't see the grades she made in school or if you do not know how well she cooks mofongo?I get the personal, relative, and subjective part. But when I ask "what is the scale based on," seems nobody has an answer. Like the dude that said he saw an 8 on BR, Japanese anime look alike or whatever. How did he come to that's an 8? Did he see under clothes? What if there is a dick? Then where are the 1-7's, if that's an 8? What's difference between a 1 and 2? Or 1. 5? Basically, I think they just make up these ratings so they can pretend they have some type of valid judgement amongst other men. Look I was able to land an 8 or 9. I know what I am talking about type ego. Yeah whatever.
I am at the point where it's.
1. fuckable.
2. not fuckable.
3. pay.
4. not pay.
ElMexicant
02-06-23, 07:06
I get the personal, relative, and subjective part. But when I ask "what is the scale based on," seems nobody has an answer. Like the dude that said he saw an 8 on BR, Japanese anime look alike or whatever. How did he come to that's an 8? Did he see under clothes? What if there is a dick? Then where are the 1-7's, if that's an 8? What's difference between a 1 and 2? Or 1. 5? Basically, I think they just make up these ratings so they can pretend they have some type of valid judgement amongst other men. Look I was able to land an 8 or 9. I know what I am talking about type ego. Yeah whatever.
I am at the point where it's.
1. fuckable.
2. not fuckable.
3. pay.
4. not pay.Case in point.
As I am typing this, I show this first pic (girl in red lingerie) to a few guys around me. They all rate her in the photo as an 8 or 9. When I ask why, they just say she looks good or hot or sexy. Then I show the other 5 pics, one by one, of the SAME girl and suddenly they have a change of opinion. Make up, bra, clothing hide the truth. So that leads me to believe they don't know shit about rating girls, especially with a glance. To me, fuckable but not payable. Maybe she has to buy me dinner and a drink or two.
Yeah whatever.
I am at the point where it's.
1. fuckable.
2. not fuckable.
3. pay.
4. not pay.Exactly. One man's 5 is another man's 8.
Thanks BB and Mjen. I'll check her out next week. I'm ok without the bj if she's hot and tight.Apparently she doesn't do almost everything because there are other stuff she told me she doesn't do.
And it's quite funny to see some guys that are supposedly taking only the best tier girls bringing that girl's name over and over because she is not that "hot".
LittleBigMan
02-06-23, 10:06
Personally, LOL,
Everyone seems to think they are Donal Trump thinking it is their beauty pageant or something like being a judge?
Personally, LOL,
Everyone seems to think they are Donal Trump thinking it is their beauty pageant or something like being a judge?Exactly my thought.
So many guys throwing out numbers like 5 or 6 about these girls and probably thinking these same girls are rating them 10's, it's becoming ridiculous.
I read this rating stuff a shit load and to me, it makes absolutely NO sense whatsoever coming from guys who just throw out a random number. They have no basis for their ratings. First of all a 10 is PERFECT score. How they hell can you tell what her body looks like from a picture or with clothes on? Tits maybe sloppy. Giant pussy lips that hang. Stretch marks underneath the ass. She gets old. And what about make up off? So how do you rate them a 10? Stupid. That's PERFECT. Come on now.
Then for there to be 9,8,7,6. There must be 1,2,3,4. Or the scale isn't a fucking scale. You take a sample population like all the girls at Nightwish bar Soi 6. You line them up from ugliest to hottest or who would you fuck first to last. Then you can assign them rating numbers. That's how I see a scale works. So when guys say a girl is 7. What does that mean? Better than 70% of all women ages 18-68? What's the population sample we are talking about? Then they argue and debate on their rankings. Silly. So I'll make it easy.
Not fuckable at all.
Fuckable if she paid me.
Fuckable for free / dating.
Fuckable I will pay.
Fuckable I will over pay.
I will earn my red wings and over pay.
I will let her piss in my mouth and use my tongue as toilet paper and over pay.
These are a few of my recent "fuckable I will pay. " Not the prettiest or best lookers, one kind of funky looking. But as I look at the crowd on Khaosan the other night, I would not trade these girls in the pics for 95% of the civilians females aged 18-68 that I saw. Especially when I've seen them naked already. So then you have your population sample in Khaosan, then you can scale and assign numbers accordingly.Everyone has a basis for their rating system. And the best way to find out what their basis is just ask. It's not that hard to do instead of going on a rant.
Explorer8939
02-06-23, 12:28
The old guys complain that the ladies aren't so hot now.
Easy to understand why: you only remember the good ones from previous trips.
ElMexicant
02-06-23, 14:59
Everyone has a basis for their rating system. And the best way to find out what their basis is just ask. It's not that hard to do instead of going on a rant.So I am asking you. How does your 1-10 scale work? Where do you place the quadriplegics with plastic limbs and old grandmas with heavy makeup? What about a pretty clothed girl with full blown AIDs?
1. First explain how somebody hacked your account to wrote 2 conflicting comments below.
2. Then explain how can you scale up to 10 which is perfection and don't ever see them naked? Maybe they had a dick or baby damage or saggy tits, but you can still give them an 8 score on a darkly lit Beach? 10 is perfection of a 100% score and you can do it with your X ray vision eyes?
I give NOBODY a 10 on this Earth ever. LOL.
Well first of all I didn't rate a single Beach Road girl an 8.
I saw some gems last night as well on Beach Road. I think I saw an 8. She looked like one of those cute J-Pop girls. Nice slim figure, white skin and cute face. Unfortunately a guy was on her quick so I couldn't go with her.
So I am asking you. How does your 1-10 scale work? Where do you place the quadriplegics with plastic limbs and old grandmas with heavy makeup? What about a pretty clothed girl with full blown AIDs?
1. First explain how somebody hacked your account to wrote 2 conflicting comments below.
2. Then explain how can you scale up to 10 which is perfection and don't ever see them naked? Maybe they had a dick or baby damage or saggy tits, but you can still give them an 8 score on a darkly lit Beach? 10 is perfection of a 100% score and you can do it with your X ray vision eyes?
I give NOBODY a 10 on this Earth ever. LOL.There from the same thread that's my scale. I start with Miss Thailand and move down from there. It's ok if you don't want to give a 10 because that's your definition. If Miss Thailand is a 9 or an 8 to you then my 10 is your 8 or 9. See not so hard and now when I report you have a frame of reference when I say a 7 or 8 what it will now mean to you. Don't need X-Ray visions to have a good idea of what a girl will look like. If you are hung up about me saying "I think I saw an 8" please understand that "think" means exactly that. I can't qualify for sure because I couldn't take her home with me so she only appears to potentially be an 8, not saying she was 100% an 8. Just calm down and let people use their scale however they want. If someone says a 10 I would ask for clarification if she is Miss Thailand instead of just blasting them like a keyboard warrior.
As a frame of reference for Asian girls a 10 to me is an Asian beauty queen like this year's miss Thailand. 9's are like the Kpop idols, 8's aren't as pretty to be a model, idol or actress but still would be one of the prettiest girls in school. 7's are your girl next door that are cute with nice figures still +/-5 pounds. 6's are at the upper limit of my weight limit and looks. 5's are over the hill or just overweight. I won't touch a 5. This is my points of reference so if someone reads my reviews can now understand what I'm looking for. For those that see my 6's and 5's as 8's and 9's then you'll be in heaven here.
Explorer8939
02-06-23, 17:42
I took a walk down Soi 6 today. Lots of young ladies available, but not many silicon enhanced. Most ladies with big tits are also quite hefty, which is the norm for young ladies.
The biggest problem with Soi 6 is how to pick with all the choices.
Explorer8939
02-06-23, 17:48
One lady I know constantly sends me messages asking me to come to her bar to buy drinks (I ignore her). Or, she sends crying face emojis because she has no customers (strangely, when I do go to her, she always has a customer).
Yesterday, she posted on Facebook showing the gold she bought.
You can imagine what I wrote, the next time she sent me a beg message.
MartinFlevo
02-06-23, 17:55
Damn that's a few pages wasted on the definition of a 10 (or 5).
Not fuckable.
Fuckable.
Makes it a LOT easier. If I look at my own binary scale? Have to say at least 70% is not_fuckable. This might be for different reasons.
* Too old.
* Too fat.
* Too arrogant (pretty face, big fake boobs but wrong attitude is a pass for me anyway).
* Pricing!
SO I would say fuckable for me is a 6-8. And I do see less of them.
If you mix in the pricing. I would say 2017-2019 I always aimed on the 2 K longtime freelancers (with a beauty score of nextdoor / average).
With inflation the problem is you get that chick not anymore for 2 K. So if you want to spend the same amount as before covid. You end up compromising on looks. If you look for the same kind of chicks as before covid? Well. You probably pay more now.
Banana Boi
02-06-23, 18:16
As I am typing this, I show this first pic (girl in red lingerie) to a few guys around me. They all rate her in the photo as an 8 or 9. 5 or less for me even based on the red lingerie photo. Hard pass. Am I picky? Hell yes.
Mr Enternational
02-06-23, 18:29
There from the same thread that's my scale. I start with Miss Thailand and move down from there. It's ok if you don't want to give a 10 because that's your definition. If Miss Thailand is a 9 or an 8 to you then my 10 is your 8 or 9. See not so hard and now when I report you have a frame of reference when I say a 7 or 8 what it will now mean to you. Seems your frame of reference may have to change soon. The Thai ladyboy owner of a bunch of pageants such as Miss Universe and Miss USA has said that pageants will no longer be about how someone looks, but will be about women's empowerment instead. Are you going to let the ladyboys decide your standard of beauty from now on? Kind of ironic for a ladyboy to be talking about empowering women. That is like Superman talking about empowering kryptonite.
ElMexicant
02-06-23, 18:35
There from the same thread that's my scale. I start with Miss Thailand and move down from there. It's ok if you don't want to give a 10 because that's your definition. If Miss Thailand is a 9 or an 8 to you then my 10 is your 8 or 9. See not so hard and now when I report you have a frame of reference when I say a 7 or 8 what it will now mean to you. Don't need X-Ray visions to have a good idea of what a girl will look like. If you are hung up about me saying "I think I saw an 8" please understand that "think" means exactly that. I can't qualify for sure because I couldn't take her home with me so she only appears to potentially be an 8, not saying she was 100% an 8. Just calm down and let people use their scale however they want. If someone says a 10 I would ask for clarification if she is Miss Thailand instead of just blasting them like a keyboard warrior.Trust me. I get that everyone has a different scale. I just want to know how they derived their scale. So you say Miss Thailand here is your perfect 10. I'm just curious what happens to the same girl when she doesn't wear make up like in the other pic? You see her on the street. She still a 10? It's the same girl. So has to be right?
I personally need to see them naked to even think about scaling them. Perky tits at least (Cs) a must. Round bottom and not a flat ass or saggy butt is a must. No thigh gaps. Correct arm length. Correct legs to torso ratio. Shoulders no wider than hips. No deep or squeaky voices. Beautiful without make up. Sexier with make up. No stretch marks or cellulite marks. No uneven coloring of the skin or patches. Pussy neatly trimmed not a forest or completely bald. I am just amazed how you can come to all these conclusions by just looking at a Miss Thailand pic.
But on the their hand, now I understand what really happened on Beach Road with the "8" and why you like to walk around Nana Plaza and not go into the GoGo Bars. Yep, it's a ladybugs infestation in Nana Plaza alright. Enjoy the rest of your trip in Thailand.
The old guys complain that the ladies aren't so hot now.
Easy to understand why: you only remember the good ones from previous trips.Let me defend my fellow old guys. In the early 2000's there were far more good looking P4 P girls than today. No comparison. There were far more girls on the streets and in the bars and go gos back then which means a larger number of good to great looking ones available. Also the girls were more willing to go with older guys back then. No talk of of periods or I don't go with customers. I was 20 years younger than and it was simple to pick out the prettiest girl in a bar or go go and she would go with me. Today a lot of the hot ones prefer to just sell lady drinks.
Another difference between then and now. The older guys back then could get more of the pretty ones than they do today.
Case in point.
As I am typing this, I show this first pic (girl in red lingerie) to a few guys around me. They all rate her in the photo as an 8 or 9. When I ask why, they just say she looks good or hot or sexy. Then I show the other 5 pics, one by one, of the SAME girl and suddenly they have a change of opinion. Make up, bra, clothing hide the truth. So that leads me to believe they don't know shit about rating girls, especially with a glance. To me, fuckable but not payable. Maybe she has to buy me dinner and a drink or two.First pic an attractive girl, the next few pics 5-6. After a sixpack and a few G&T's I would rate the girl in the last pic a solid 10 if I'm there and she says " fuck me Daddy" LOL.
Explorer8939
02-06-23, 23:43
The Pattaya area is filled with Russians, typically small families. Because Russian men are fleeing the war. Some can work online, some even have enough money to arrange a long stay visa. But most will either overstay their visa and / or run out of money.
Then you will see their girlfriends or wives working freelance. Give it a few months.
Let me defend my fellow old guys. In the early 2000's there were far more good looking P4 P girls than today. No comparison. There were far more girls on the streets and in the bars and go gos back then which means a larger number of good to great looking ones available. Also the girls were more willing to go with older guys back then. No talk of of periods or I don't go with customers. I was 20 years younger than and it was simple to pick out the prettiest girl in a bar or go go and she would go with me. Today a lot of the hot ones prefer to just sell lady drinks.
Another difference between then and now. The older guys back then could get more of the pretty ones than they do today.And it was always a buyers market 20 years ago. Low season in Pattaya was really low. After Cobra Gold until the end of October Pattaya was pretty empty of tourists, but there was always plenty of gals. I remember when the first Starbucks opened on Beach road at Soi 13. We grab a coffee and sit upstairs and there would literally be no one but us for hours every afternoon. Soi 6 was so much fun as it was all closed bars and no loud music pumping. Bars opened about 2:00 pm and by 6:00 pm they were pretty empty. It was an afternoon hang out and quite fun. Night time you had your pic of several areas to wander and the discos of course after hours were unbelievable. And don't think I ever paid more than a thousand Baht at the time. Most gals you met on the street were 500 and I had some amazing experiences.
And another comment on age. One of the attractions of Thailand back then for a mid-30's dude looking for a place to spend his days and grow old was it the older dudes always had the best looking gals. These were guys in their 50's and 60's and they always seem to have the pick of the litter partially due to the fact that the majority of them were here on fat expat packages or retired with quite a bit of cash. Also most of the gals back then were looking for something long-term and stable as opposed to the quick baht which was much less than it is now. It's a completely different scene now, things change, but for the local the online scene is still very good, and it will never really catch on with tourists.
Explorer8939
02-07-23, 02:13
Let me defend my fellow old guys. In the early 2000's there were far more good looking P4 P girls than today. No comparison. There were far more girls on the streets and in the bars and go gos back then which means a larger number of good to great looking ones available. Also the girls were more willing to go with older guys back then. No talk of of periods or I don't go with customers. I was 20 years younger than and it was simple to pick out the prettiest girl in a bar or go go and she would go with me. Today a lot of the hot ones prefer to just sell lady drinks.
Another difference between then and now. The older guys back then could get more of the pretty ones than they do today.I was here 20 years ago, and for me, the ladies are more or less the same. One difference is that there is more silicon now.
What you are saying is that some of the hotter girls don't go with customers, which is true, but that doesn't mean they don't exist. So, really what your point is that there are fewer hot ladies that go with customers, which is true.
The internet allows women to make money without even seeing a customer, which is really stupid, but I guess there is no lack of lonely morons with cash. So, the hotter ladies can rake in the money and support a Thai husband, which is now more common than 20 years ago.
Cha Chumplin
02-07-23, 03:01
Case in point.
As I am typing this, I show this first pic (girl in red lingerie) to a few guys around me. They all rate her in the photo as an 8 or 9. When I ask why, they just say she looks good or hot or sexy. Then I show the other 5 pics, one by one, of the SAME girl and suddenly they have a change of opinion. Make up, bra, clothing hide the truth. So that leads me to believe they don't know shit about rating girls, especially with a glance. To me, fuckable but not payable. Maybe she has to buy me dinner and a drink or two.I say 2 on a good day. Hahaha.
Not been that many time in the past, but had a few rounds in Pattaya. It's true the beach road it's a total dump now, I don't even see the Indians picking up girls there. That's a clear indication of the low quality of the girls! In the old days ( 2010), I remember some good stuff could be be found for 500 baht ST. Now zero, stay away!!
LK Metro and Bukhaow are noisy as hell, lots of gogo and bars but not my thing. Good for a stroll but I would not hang out there.
Then my beloved Soi-6, where starting 3 pm you can find all the young spinners smiling at you. Pick a bar with some hotties, have a drink to asses the options, pick a 20-something gal that I would normally see walking in the Bangkok BTS, and then fuck her for an hour upstairs. True is not easy like it was to get fresh meat in Pattaya, but a ST for 2000 baht all inclusive of drinks and room, with a young and fit 20 yo, it's still a good deal that can only be found in few places in the world (assuming the low effort required here). I know casas in Colombia, I know FKK in Germany, but where else you get this abundance of options and easy access to services?
The Pattaya area is filled with Russians, typically small families. Because Russian men are fleeing the war. Some can work online, some even have enough money to arrange a long stay visa. But most will either overstay their visa and / or run out of money.
Then you will see their girlfriends or wives working freelance. Give it a few months.Why do Russian women give such poor service in Pattaya when they gave such good service in FKKs?
MartinFlevo
02-07-23, 17:37
Why do Russian women give such poor service in Pattaya when they gave such good service in FKKs?Its called human traffic. Trust me the "money makers" won't be dumped in a 3th world country.
Why do Russian women give such poor service in Pattaya when they gave such good service in FKKs?There are no russian women in FKK, and that since at least 10 years ago! Maybe you have been missing for a while.
Banana Boi
02-07-23, 21:38
I know casas in Colombia, I know FKK in Germany, but where else you get this abundance of options and easy access to services?Jakarta. Tons of young girls for cheap everywhere. Phnom Penh on a much smaller scale. I guess guys would add PI and Brazil but I haven't been.
I wouldn't exactly call Germany easy access. You need a car to get to the different FKK clubs and it's too expensive to rely on a taxi for transportation.
Explorer8939
02-07-23, 23:35
Why do Russian women give such poor service in Pattaya when they gave such good service in FKKs?Of course, the best service from Russia women is in Russia. I have never been stupid enough to do a Russian woman in Pattaya.
Explorer8939
02-07-23, 23:38
Walking around Pattaya, I can tell that High Season is slowly easing up. Bolt prices are coming back to normal, and traffic is diminishing. The ladies don't have so many customers now.
But it is still far from dead.
Latest rumor: TreeTown is going to be paved over, and condos will be built there.
AlwaysHorny 2
02-08-23, 10:13
Not been that many time in the past, but had a few rounds in Pattaya. It's true the beach road it's a total dump now, I don't even see the Indians picking up girls there. That's a clear indication of the low quality of the girls! In the old days ( 2010), I remember some good stuff could be be found for 500 baht ST. Now zero, stay away!!
LK Metro and Bukhaow are noisy as hell, lots of gogo and bars but not my thing. Good for a stroll but I would not hang out there.
Then my beloved Soi-6, where starting 3 pm you can find all the young spinners smiling at you. Pick a bar with some hotties, have a drink to asses the options, pick a 20-something gal that I would normally see walking in the Bangkok BTS, and then fuck her for an hour upstairs. True is not easy like it was to get fresh meat in Pattaya, but a ST for 2000 baht all inclusive of drinks and room, with a young and fit 20 yo, it's still a good deal that can only be found in few places in the world (assuming the low effort required here). I know casas in Colombia, I know FKK in Germany, but where else you get this abundance of options and easy access to services?I wanted to add a quick report. I'm in Pattaya now. Last night was my first and an a 26 yr, good body, with a fantastic attitude / catering that I know would result in a great 3 round LT that was pretty wild.
I can't compare it to the good ole days, but this place is nuts. It's options everywhere. True, no 9/10's walking around, but some of these woman can easily fit my standards. Also, TF is insane. Last night missed out a 23 yr beauty and she was right down from me on Soi Buakhao, but I had planted my flag by the time she got back to me. Might try to double back but now there's a sexy lady at a massage shop on Sai Song road or this TF masseuse. I'm waiting to be completely blown away if I do pull the trigger tonight. In my mind, I'm saying I'll take the day off but this place is tempting.
Last nights BF is blowing up my Line. Solid repeat option, but definitely not tonight. I would’ve easily spent an extra week here and cut days from others. I feel this the perfect starting point for a newbie.
There are no russian women in FKK, and that since at least 10 years ago! Maybe you have been missing for a while.I can easily detect a poster who posts on a location to which he has not been. I have been to Fkks every year from 2007 to 2020. I have sessioned Russians there every time up to 2020. What you would have read is that the number of Russians have declined significantly over the years. Guys on the ground would have banged the one or two who are there. Read my posts over the years in the FKK forum. Perhaps you could direct me to yours.
Mr Enternational
02-08-23, 17:53
I can't compare it to the good ole days, but this place is nuts. It's options everywhere. True, no 9/10's walking around, but some of these woman can easily fit my standards.After all these years my experience is still the same as yours. Seems like you are ready to get out of there and get back to Sosua though. I guess you can see now why I say that it is obvious that die hard Sosua people do not know other places. Not even the same ballpark.
I was just in Pattaya for a week and here are my observations.
Wow there are lots of Russian "tourists". Lots of Thai women too. It felt like a lot more than Bangkok.
Soi 6 had hundreds of the "same" type of petite 20-30's, probably averaging 6 or 7, with no real 9 or 10s. Beach Road also had hundreds of choices of a wider range, usually heavier 30-50s, averaging 4 or 5s. You did see the rare 6 or 7+ but they were taken pretty fast. By rare, I'd say you could walk the entire stretch, up and down, and have a 50/50 shot of seeing a 7. On more than one occasion, I saw someone taking a photo of the person that approached them after they didn't reach an agreement.
Walking street was pretty nice. I'd say Pin-Ups, Skyfall, and Baccara were probably the "best", with 7-8s. I stuck my head in most of the others and didn't stay. But my personal favorite was Windmills. I've got a thing for "ratchet" bars though. The women are young, having a good time, and the majority of them have it all hanging out. A lady drink buys you an absurd amount of access if you want it. I'd say the women are on par to what you'll see on Soi 6. According to a flyer in their bathroom, the bar next door for them is for sale, 3 million baht. I peeked inside and wasn't overly impressed.
I still haven't been inside one of those "Russian Girl Show" bars on Walking Street and probably never will. I saw an amusing thing though where a pair young Russian women were standing on Beach Road near Walking Street. A group of Indian guys approached and propositioned them. The women were instantly offended because said they were tourists. The guys were instantly offended because they were just asking.
I can easily detect a poster who posts on a location to which he has not been. I have been to Fkks every year from 2007 to 2020. I have sessioned Russians there every time up to 2020. What you would have read is that the number of Russians have declined significantly over the years. Guys on the ground would have banged the one or two who are there. Read my posts over the years in the FKK forum. Perhaps you could direct me to yours.I don't have posts about FKK but trust me I've been a lot. All right, among the 90% from Romania, the rest can be from Bulgaria, Albania, the odd German frau and some rare Italian / Spanish and Russian. I'd say Russian is less than 1%, is that enough to say "there are Russians in FKK"?
Jakarta. Tons of young girls for cheap everywhere. Phnom Penh on a much smaller scale. I guess guys would add PI and Brazil but I haven't been.
I wouldn't exactly call Germany easy access. You need a car to get to the different FKK clubs and it's too expensive to rely on a taxi for transportation.I meant easy access to girls! Easy to find, in short.
Houston Player
02-09-23, 02:17
Latest rumor: TreeTown is going to be paved over, and condos will be built there.I hope this is true I hate that fucking place.
LittleBigMan
02-09-23, 02:43
I hope this is true I hate that fucking place.I heard that years ago must be old?
AlwaysHorny 2
02-09-23, 03:11
After all these years my experience is still the same as yours. Seems like you are ready to get out of there and get back to Sosua though. I guess you can see now why I say that it is obvious that die hard Sosua people do not know other places. Not even the same ballpark.Yeah, Mr. E, so sad for them. Many are stuck in nostalgia. It took me 3 for the last time trips (LOL) there to never go again. I haven't been in about 5 years and that trip was dreadful compared to my earliest experiences. I saw a couple YouTubes and would never deal with that BS.
I like Pattaya because there are more brown complexion Thai's and they seem to be more cool. I would love to meet some on these mongers in person who have these beauty standards. I'm just as picky as the next man and I'm certain I can screw as much as I want AND be happy with my choice.
I don't have posts about FKK but trust me I've been a lot. All right, among the 90% from Romania, the rest can be from Bulgaria, Albania, the odd German frau and some rare Italian / Spanish and Russian. I'd say Russian is less than 1%, is that enough to say "there are Russians in FKK"?Just quoting you from your last post: "There are no russian women in FKK, and that since at least 10 years ago!. ".
Explorer8939
02-10-23, 00:54
I lost a night.
I had 2 MILFs at my condo to drink tequila in the early afternoon. After a couple of hours, they were naked, and feeling good. The rest of the day is a blur, lots of pussy licking, more drinking, and then I woke up the next day. I guess I didn't go out last night.
RakSopheni
02-10-23, 02:54
I am at the point where it's.
1. fuckable.
2. not fuckable.
3. pay.
4. not pay.I agree with this.
The rating system can be employed usefully as a shorthand method for gauging talent in a very, very broad sense- but I think everyone can agree it's highly subjective and should not be mistaken for empirical data. The fact that there are so many arguments over it proves this point. The only thing that the rating system tells me with any certainty, is that the monger in question thinks "X" girl is a 8,9, etc. As a first principle, it indicates more about the perceptions of the monger than the qualitative observations that are supposedly embedded within it.
A chat forum completely conceals the identity, visual cues and information that we all need to process to help us consider the value of the source (poster). It would be much different if everyone was required to post an avatar of their actual self and along with that crucial information about who they are- age, income, fitness, etc. You would read posts in a much different way and bias their descriptions and ratings of women against how you perceived their sexual market value. Without this information you need to take all these posts with a grain of salt. Not only that- but it's also good to retain a healthy amount of skepticism in a general sense- there is a lot of embellishment, fabulism, outright lies and deliberate misinformation that ends up on an anonymous chat forum.
The decile rating system was very popular in the Red Pill community, and still is in the Incel community:
https://incels.wiki/w/Decile
A chat forum completely conceals the identity, visual cues and information that we all need to process to help us consider the value of the source (poster). It would be much different if everyone was required to post an avatar of their actual self and along with that crucial information about who they are- age, income, fitness, etc. You would read posts in a much different way and bias their descriptions and ratings of women against how you perceived their sexual market value. Without this information you need to take all these posts with a grain of salt. Not only that- but it's also good to retain a healthy amount of skepticism in a general sense- there is a lot of embellishment, fabulism, outright lies and deliberate misinformation that ends up on an anonymous chat forum.Indeed. The grain of salt is that pictures are rarely posted. I don't mean that we should post pics of girls without permission, or of ourselves, just stating the point.
Axel Heyst
02-10-23, 04:32
I get the personal, relative, and subjective part. But when I ask "what is the scale based on," seems nobody has an answer. Like the dude that said he saw an 8 on BR, Japanese anime look alike or whatever. How did he come to that's an 8? Did he see under clothes? What if there is a dick? Then where are the 1-7's, if that's an 8? What's difference between a 1 and 2? Or 1. 5? Basically, I think they just make up these ratings so they can pretend they have some type of valid judgement amongst other men. Look I was able to land an 8 or 9. I know what I am talking about type ego. Yeah whatever.
I am at the point where it's.
1. fuckable.
2. not fuckable.
3. pay.
4. not pay.I could go into detail describing my 8 pt rating system (there are no 9's or 10's and any girl below a 5. 4 is unfuckable), but since I have found my new hunting ground in the Americas, I have been applying a 4 Tier system which I think describes things pretty well.
Tier 1: Are lookers, model quality, girls that most guys would consider 8* and higher on the 10 pt scale. I would simply say a Tier 1 girl is a girl whose beauty on my 1st look blows me away. No need to think about it or see who else is available. A Tier 1 gets an immediate "I want that" response from me. It's an automatic reaction to a girl's beauty, mostly her face. All I can say is I know a Tier 1 the second I spot her.
Tier 2: Are sexy, good looking, girl next door types with nice slender bodies, no baby damage, and they do not wear excessive amounts of makeup. I love Tier 2's, but they don't generate the same immediate response from me as a Tier 1. On the 10 pt scale a Tier 2 would be anywhere from a 6 to 7. 4. In other words, a really nice-looking girl.
Tier 3: Are either Tier 1 or Tier 2 girls who have somehow ruined themselves, IMHO, thanks to large, unnatural silly cones, or butt implants, or baby damage. Pretty faces / ruined bodies. No thanks.
Tier 4: Let's just say these are girls I do not want to shag regardless of the circumstances. Most girls are Tier 4.
But any kind of scale including my 4 Tier system depends on individual subjective tastes. My Tier 3 girl might easily be some else's 9++ girl or Tier 1 if we are still using my system. Photos would be very helpful in demonstrating who here has good taste and who has bad taste in girls, Ha Ha, but there is a reason why few of us post photos on this web site. It is too bad a few internet pencil dicks screwed it up for the rest of us. Rule #1 of ISG: Do not talk about the ISG to the girls. Rule #2 of ISG: Do not show the girls any ISG posted material especially photos of girls.
SplitPersona
02-10-23, 07:56
Walking Street.
Huge crowds every day after 8 pm.
Hilton Club closed.
Cavali Agogo and the club upstairs closed.
More Russian clubs opening daily.
As a girl tried to get a eccentric looking guy into a Russian club he ranted and berated her for about 5 minutes shouting "I hte Russia " before security tactfully walked him away.
Tantra and Moon almost empty last weekend.
LK.
Friends agogo closed.
Pulse Agogo closed and reopened under new management same same.
Kilkenny boarded shut and Vegas Agogo coming up in it's place.
CobraCommand
02-11-23, 16:06
I still haven't been inside one of those "Russian Girl Show" bars on Walking Street and probably never will. I saw an amusing thing though where a pair young Russian women were standing on Beach Road near Walking Street. A group of Indian guys approached and propositioned them. The women were instantly offended because said they were tourists. The guys were instantly offended because they were just asking.This made me laugh for a while hahaha well-written buddy!
RakSopheni
02-11-23, 19:03
A post on another forum got me thinking about this. Size based purely on estimated number of working girls employed in various capacities including online / Sugar sites. I've mongered in most of these places but not all, so some of this is a guess.
Tell me where I'm wrong/right.
Large and Cheap
Pattaya.
Bangkok.
Frankfurt.
Rio de Janeiro.
Sao Paolo.
Amsterdam.
Large and Expensive
Dubai.
Las Vegas.
Medium and Cheap
Manila.
Angeles.
Tijuana.
Medellin.
Bogota.
Mexico City.
Jakarta.
Panama City.
Phnom Penh.
Medium and Expensive
Singapore.
Hong Kong.
Small and Cheap
San Jose.
Jaco.
Sosua.
Kuala Lumpur.
Small and Expensive
Macau.
I hope this is true I hate that fucking place.The condos are likely to be trash though. The traffic on soi bukhao, 2nd Road, and that entire area is already horrible. Imagine condo owners and cars added to the mix. It would be AWFUL to live there. It also floods like crazy there during the rainy season, they probably don't even have the sewage capacity to support that.
Walking Street.
Huge crowds every day after 8 pm.
Hilton Club closed.
Cavali Agogo and the club upstairs closed.
More Russian clubs opening daily.
As a girl tried to get a eccentric looking guy into a Russian club he ranted and berated her for about 5 minutes shouting "I hte Russia " before security tactfully walked him away.
Tantra and Moon almost empty last weekend.
LK.
Friends agogo closed.
Pulse Agogo closed and reopened under new management same same.
Kilkenny boarded shut and Vegas Agogo coming up in it's place.Sad to hear about new ownership at Pulse. Last fall it was my favorite go go in the LK area. Very good selection and atmosphere. Girls weren't pushy about drinks.
Explorer8939
02-12-23, 02:26
More Russian clubs opening daily.
As a girl tried to get a eccentric looking guy into a Russian club he ranted and berated her for about 5 minutes shouting "I hte Russia " before security tactfully walked him away.
Expect more Russian women working in Pattaya over the next few months.
Explorer8939
02-12-23, 02:41
I only realized recently that most bargirls are sleep deprived. A lot cannot sleep when they have overnight customers (for various reasons). Another bunch have Thai boyfriends at home, and the men wake up early for work. Or the Thai men work bar and don't get home until the early morning.
Some have kids living with them, and they get up early for school.
As a result, bargirls are often more emotional and less rational than you would expect. But, no, it doesn't mean that they look forward to getting barfined early so they can get some sleep. They still want to get back to their room and their Tilac as soon as possible. But, if they are forced to spend the night, they will sleep for many hours.
SplitPersona
02-12-23, 07:42
Any place showing it live or with taped delay?
You forgot tier 0. That was tonight for me. A 65 year old woman at the sports bar tonight watching ufc 284 tells me she wants to fuck me. She kept flirting and wouldn't leave me alone. I wanted to throw up. She was your stereotypical desperate older woman that can't get guys to bang her anymore. She was so aggressive it was sickening to watch.
You forgot tier 0. That was tonight for me. A 65 year old woman at the sports bar tonight watching ufc 284 tells me she wants to fuck me. She kept flirting and wouldn't leave me alone. I wanted to throw up. She was your stereotypical desperate older woman that can't get guys to bang her anymore. She was so aggressive it was sickening to watch.One night after a party at university a girl asked me to escort her to her room which I did out of the goodness of my heart. She (late 20's) was tall and slim with big boobs (there were very few fat girls back then) but I did not like her face as did a ton of other guys. When we reached her room she invited me in which I refused, she then grabbed my arm and tried to pull me in LOL but I was no weakling. I often look back at that and think that I should have allowed her to rape me so I could tick that off my list.
Explorer8939
02-13-23, 04:08
I went to Camel Toe for a late lunch yesterday. There were a surprising number of customers there, and about 10 mostly silicon enhanced MILFs. I was just there for food, but ended up buying drinks for one of the MILFs, who gave me the rundown on the ladies, who took it up the ass, who was blowjob only, etc.
If you like busty MILFs, its probably okay for you.
There is a short time room on site, but I have never gone.
LittleBigMan
02-13-23, 04:18
Any place showing it live or with taped delay?You are a bit late so am I! The game starts at 6:30, the best place, in my opinion, is Iris Rover inside LK metro, Superbowl is normally packed best time this day generally ALL Americans have No soccer or ping pong to have to watch. Great owners, managers, close to 20 T. V. With an American Breakfast 119, coffee juice, pancakes.
Wetherspoons down the road are not bad either. Next year's NINERS?
One night after a party at university a girl asked me to escort her to her room which I did out of the goodness of my heart. She (late 20's) was tall and slim with big boobs (there were very few fat girls back then) but I did not like her face as did a ton of other guys. When we reached her room she invited me in which I refused, she then grabbed my arm and tried to pull me in LOL but I was no weakling. I often look back at that and think that I should have allowed her to rape me so I could tick that off my list.People say it's easy for women to get laid. It isn't if you aren't halfway attractive.
Explorer8939
02-13-23, 07:09
Ratings are usually written about by guys living in their mother's basement.
In real life, you go to Pattaya, see a lady, and either barfine her or not. You don't assess her based on a number scale, your choices are barfine or not barfine.
Your reports should include where she works, how much you paid, and whether her performance was good.
Abstract discussions of female desireability are pointless.
Walking Street.
Huge crowds every day after 8 pm.
Hilton Club closed.
Cavali Agogo and the club upstairs closed.
More Russian clubs opening daily.
As a girl tried to get a eccentric looking guy into a Russian club he ranted and berated her for about 5 minutes shouting "I hte Russia " before security tactfully walked him away.
Tantra and Moon almost empty last weekend.
LK.
Friends agogo closed.
Pulse Agogo closed and reopened under new management same same.
Kilkenny boarded shut and Vegas Agogo coming up in it's place.As friends wasn't a gogo. It was a quasi club that got raided a few times for being open late.
Cha Chumplin
02-13-23, 23:06
Ratings are usually written about by guys living in their mother's basement.
In real life, you go to Pattaya, see a lady, and either barfine her or not. You don't assess her based on a number scale, your choices are barfine or not barfine.
Your reports should include where she works, how much you paid, and whether her performance was good.
Abstract discussions of female desireability are pointless.When you include price it's very Pointful.
1,000 baht and it becomes dreadful. Yes I know there is 1 gem out of a 1,ooo girls on Soi 6 everyday.
Explorer8939
02-14-23, 00:37
I know a bargirl who claims I am the only customer who fucks her, everyone else just buys her drinks. No idea if that is true, but she claims that her 19 year old Thai boy toy only allows her to go with me. Yesterday, her boy toy sent me a friend request on Facebook.
It all seems weird to me.
Another lady tells me that her Thai boyfriend doesn't want her going with any customer except me, but she can go with me as long as I want. Last year, she went to Brazil with me for 3 months.
Maybe these ladies have convinced their boyfriends that I can't fuck.
Explorer8939
02-14-23, 00:45
I barfined a 90's style bargirl last year.
She typified the majority of bargirls you would see 20 or 30 years ago, the classic LBFM. Kind of skinny, shy, but fucks like a mink, eager to please. You don't see many of them anymore.
It was like I invented a time machine.
LittleBigMan
02-14-23, 02:07
I went to Camel Toe for a late lunch yesterday. There were a surprising number of customers there, and about 10 mostly silicon enhanced MILFs. I was just there for food, but ended up buying drinks for one of the MILFs, who gave me the rundown on the ladies, who took it up the ass, who was blowjob only, etc.
If you like busty MILFs, its probably okay for you.
There is a short time room on site, but I have never gone.There is no ST room on site, usually not my thing I got caught off guard a bit by the time I realized it was too late.
There is a booth area in the corner near the door they pull the curtain and off you go reason the BF is only 200 baht.
Explorer8939
02-14-23, 03:32
There is no ST room on site, usually not my thing I got caught off guard a bit by the time I realized it was too late.
There is a booth area in the corner near the door they pull the curtain and off you go reason the BF is only 200 baht.I am sure there is a ST room by the kitchen. But, I will check in a couple of days.
Thanks everyone who contributed their thoughts on making a night to remember in Pattaya for my buddy.
We started off with a couple beers and gummies at Tree town before we then headed to High Rollers. A lot of drinks were bought. Fair selection, fun was had and the gummies had kicked in. Headed to LK Metro into a bunch of bars, lot more fun was had, another round of gummies later, we ended up at Heave Above surrounded by 3-4 girls and a dozen or more tits! A LOT of fun was had before we stumbled back home. Alone! I'm sure I'm forgetting a few other places we went to. But that is a sign of good time being had.
Got up with a heavy head but a smile as we caught up for breakfast the next morning. Both of us had a blast but felt that Pattaya was overwhelming and is probably not something we could take on a regular basis! .
Didn't get to hit the WS recommendations you guys offered, but there is always the next time.
Cheers / Pulse.
LittleBigMan
02-14-23, 10:05
I am sure there is a ST room by the kitchen. But, I will check in a couple of days.That would be nice unless someone was in there a long time when I was there seem to be two others majority of the ladies were sitting near the door bored. Not my thing to throw the pillows on the floor. LOL.
Cha Chumplin
02-14-23, 12:36
I know a bargirl who claims I am the only customer who fucks her, everyone else just buys her drinks. No idea if that is true, but she claims that her 19 year old Thai boy toy only allows her to go with me. Yesterday, her boy toy sent me a friend request on Facebook.
It all seems weird to me.
Another lady tells me that her Thai boyfriend doesn't want her going with any customer except me, but she can go with me as long as I want. Last year, she went to Brazil with me for 3 months.
Maybe these ladies have convinced their boyfriends that I can't fuck.Also possible they see you as nothing but a ATM. No offense.
Cha Chumplin
02-14-23, 12:38
There is no ST room on site, usually not my thing I got caught off guard a bit by the time I realized it was too late.
There is a booth area in the corner near the door they pull the curtain and off you go reason the BF is only 200 baht.Ladies Fee? Very on Point.
Explorer8939
02-14-23, 13:23
Also possible they see you as nothing but a ATM. No offense.That's a given.
My question is about 2 Thai ladies whose Thai boyfriends are okay if I fuck them, but other customers cannot.
One lady, if she wants to go long time with a customer, tells me not to post on Facebook that night, because she tells her boyfriend that she is going with me. Yes, her boyfriend checks my Facebook.
Explorer8939
02-14-23, 13:25
That would be nice unless someone was in there a long time when I was there seem to be two others majority of the ladies were sitting near the door bored. Not my thing to throw the pillows on the floor. LOL.What I normally see in Camel Toe is 8 ladies with customers, and 2 or 3 ladies with no customers. Usually, those 2 or 3 ladies are gone next time I come.
LittleBigMan
02-14-23, 14:34
Ladies Fee? Very on Point.1000 Full service.
People say it's easy for women to get laid. It isn't if you aren't halfway attractive.That same girl who almost raped me ended up going steady with a guy who was not unattractive at all. I would say that it is more difficult for an unattractive man without money to get laid than an unattractive woman.
That same girl who almost raped me ended up going steady with a guy who was not unattractive at all. I would say that it is more difficult for an unattractive man without money to get laid than an unattractive woman.A low income unattractive man with game and low standards can get laid if he is young tall fit. Even if it is a fling with Miss Piggy BBW.
Explorer8939
02-15-23, 01:10
You guys concerned about rating ladies ignore one important factor: performance. Some MILFs are super fucks, whereas lots of younger ladies are dead fish in bed.
I have one MILF come to my condo who has a fetish for dick and balls sucking / playing / ripping. She will go down there and give me a prostate massage while sucking my dick indefinitely, I always have to stop her so that I can finish in her pussy.
SplitPersona
02-15-23, 12:45
Kinda messes up the vibe a little. Have not seen this in other countries.
SplitPersona
02-15-23, 12:53
Walked into Atlantis Agogo last Saturday 930 pm and I was the only guy and 12 girls. Even the outside bouncers were Agogo girls.
Friend Agogo will open after renovation.
Nothing special for Valentine day except for balloons at the entrance.
Banana Boi
02-16-23, 00:44
Why do Agogo and Soi 6 girls wear two underwears while dancing?Cause too many Cheap Charlie's try to finger them for free.
Cha Chumplin
02-16-23, 04:15
Cause too many Cheap Charlie's try to finger them for free.Slippage upon slippage. Can be embarrassing when they bend over.
Cha Chumplin
02-16-23, 04:17
You guys concerned about rating ladies ignore one important factor: performance. Some MILFs are super fucks, whereas lots of younger ladies are dead fish in bed.
I have one MILF come to my condo who has a fetish for dick and balls sucking / playing / ripping. She will go down there and give me a prostate massage while sucking my dick indefinitely, I always have to stop her so that I can finish in her pussy.No no no.
I'm pretty sure ratings apply only to ones Attractive -ness.
Again, a girl is Paid by looks not performance.
SplitPersona
02-16-23, 13:57
I feel sad for the Rich Old Thai guys who like to enjoy the 18 year young hotties from Agogo and Soi 6 or even enjoying drinking in Agogos.
They live here and are not allowed. Very frustrating.
Also since they look very similar to other Asian orientals, how does the doorman know to stop them.
SplitPersona
02-16-23, 14:06
They are a mix of all age groups and genders.
Are they allowed in Agogos? They will fill up the whole place!
Where do they stay?
Do they pick up girls?
Kinda messes up the vibe a little. Have not seen this in other countries.Not all of them wear two panties. It also may depend on the style of the outfit. The tame girls may wear two panties. The wild ones will usually wear only one.
A post on another forum got me thinking about this. Size based purely on estimated number of working girls employed in various capacities including online / Sugar sites. I've mongered in most of these places but not all, so some of this is a guess....I can only speak of the places I have been.
Large and Cheap
Pattaya.
Yes cheap sex but no culture. It is just a place for drinking and fucking. What do you do with the other hours?
Bangkok.
Yes cheap sex, one of my favorite places to go. Ladies with specialties (anal, GS) are easy to find. Affordable nice hotels. There has been a downturn in the night scene since covid that has not returned. I miss the buzz of a lot of people in the streets of Nana and Asok at 2 am. I do enjoy the days with minimal tourists though.
Frankfurt.
Yes, one of my favorite places to go. Ladies with specialties (anal, GS) are easy to find. Affordable nice hotels. The Frankfurt RLD is a little seady (I only go in the daytime) but the rest of the town is cool. Easy, cheap train ride to Paris and Berlin if you book early enough.
Large and Expensive
Las Vegas.
There are some good places to stay that are not expensive. Very sexy hotels. My swinging wife says that "Vegas is a fake sex place. The only sex to be had in Vegas is with the woman you bring with you. " She is entirely correct. That said, my wife's record is 15 guys in one night at the Green Door.
Medium and Expensive
Hong Kong.
I don't agree. I think it is relatively cheap especially if you monger on Kowloon. The hotels are hard to find and sort of overpriced. (Have not been back since the crackdown.) There are women in apts all over Sham Shui Po who are beautiful and sweet and cheap. Temple St has SWs who are from the mainland and sexy. ($25-$40) The old ladies sitting on stools on Temple are the brothel owners of places upstairs with $10-$15 fuck and sucks with sexy Thai, Indian and Chinese women.
Small and Cheap
Siem Reap.
I would add Siem Reap. The hotels are ridiculously cheap. Some are in the middle range but high end. The sex is $30-$50 and Cambodian women are sweet and pretty and enjoy good sex, usually not kinky but that is because they are insanely shy.
I would suggest freelancers. The brothels gave me a bad vibe, like family debt servitude was the motivator. Haggy mamas-sans yelling at you "$50!" and when you walk away the price instantly drops but with attitude. The women were nice but left me feeling guilty.
Christian G
02-16-23, 16:44
I feel sad for the Rich Old Thai guys who like to enjoy the 18 year young hotties from Agogo and Soi 6 or even enjoying drinking in Agogos.
Rich thai men not need to waste their time in WS and soi6, they have their clubs with better / hotter looking girls.
They are a mix of all age groups and genders.
Are they allowed in Agogos? They will fill up the whole place!
Where do they stay?
Do they pick up girls?What do you care? Really why you wondering where they stay or if they pick up girls?
SplitPersona
02-16-23, 20:04
You say "Rich Thai men not need to waste their time in WS and soi6, they have their clubs with better / hotter looking girls."
Enlighten me if you really know which clubs the Rich Thai men have. Else ignore my message. Thanks for the feedback.
Banana Boi
02-16-23, 20:05
I feel sad for the Rich Old Thai guys who like to enjoy the 18 year young hotties from Agogo and Soi 6 or even enjoying drinking in Agogos..Thai guys don't hobby in the tourist area that most guys know as Pattaya. In fact, many bars in the tourist area (aka blue baht bus route) don't allow Thai men into their bars. There are many many Thai bars, discos, massage and karaoke joints where the Thai men go. Very young pretty girls pre-COVID but most don't speak or barely speak English. I say pre-COVID because I haven't been to any post-COVID.
Kinda messes up the vibe a little. Have not seen this in other countries.Very common in Philippines bars. But totally agree on the vibe killing effect!
GentileBear
02-16-23, 23:14
This guy parks his yellow lamborghini on beach road at opportunistic times and must be a player. I changed my approach to the night ladies of coconut bar by asking them "do you want to go with me in my car? - while pointing to it. " Of course only the pointing was communicated but whatever. Call me jealous. But I am truly honored that someone who has the big bucks prefers to walk on beach road at night.
Other observations of my past month here: NightWish Group on Soy 6 - my strategy was to stay away from all of them this trip. And boy was I wrong!! Ended up being Soy 6 saved my entire holiday since they are PROFESSIONALLY run and in my opinion Consistent. Big FUCK YOU to the staff at Wild Things Bar - "Wild Things Bar" Soy 6 - next to The Corner Bar and HollyWood. This is a clip joint. Worst experience ever. I made the same mistake by being forced in and slammed lady drinks. I was drunk. But remembered from video's this place was suppose to be cool. I might be stupid drunk but I remember how I am treated. And so off to Real Soy 6 bars I went along with my Baht. I was the only customer both times and the 2 ladies drank as fast as a Tijuana hooker in HK / Adilitas does. Never will I enter their premises. Very shady. Out 2 K Baht in under 4 minutes. Ok now the good stuff!
HollyWood Bar, Mods Bar, Red Point, Where Angels Fly? NW Group. Very very good experiences. While Drunk, sober or in-between. I am happy to buy lady drinks in moderation. And then consider the up-sell. Good atmosphere too. Red Point's rooms upstairs were Nice!
BBFS CIP. The most important thing for me. Still not easy or offered up front much but still obtainable.
Met some guys who insisted I go to Kink. Told them I am not into the big glamourous bars. Much preferer open bars- said I would love it. Well I went to Kink alone. Not knowing about upstairs until I left. Then came back and went upstairs in Kink and I see why a lot of guys would like to see pussy fingering shows and a touchy feelie bath shower setup. Just not for me. Give me Soy 6 and BeachRoad at night.
Russians are Coming! So many Russians in Pattaya now! Must be due to the wars?
Hemingways has good Pasta.
Who is the Psychotic Woman, 35 +/- short hair on a Bike who yells and screams at the massage places on Soy Honey Every morning? Is this a religious Repent / sinner expression? I am for sure you guys who are there now also see AND HEAR her. Just curious:
Went to Billabong and the LK Metro outside bars and Rock Factory to chill and recover after Soy 6 - good strategy.
Soy 7 - man these ladies got hit by the ugly stick WTF happened to Hedonism? - Hook Up Corner was okay for a few drinks.
Maggy Mays. Sorry couldn't do it. That area on pothole smells bad and I didn't get a good vibe.
Dressing well. Long sleeved collared shirt and Smiling like a game show host. I tried this strategy and fuckk me jebus. Yes it marginally works. Especially on Beach Road. Met a nice sales lady from a mall who was recently fired. We discussed business, using google translate and cosmetics. She wants to open a shop. Of course my lessons mean more boom boom as it turned a short time from beach road into a long time multiple pop day. But I think dressing well. Which someone else noted here. Does seem to work!
I said NO! To Indian Tailored Suits, horoscope. Lottery, Rolex Watches, bracelets, and especially condoms.
This trip Soy 6 was the clear winner -.
They are a mix of all age groups and genders.
Are they allowed in Agogos? They will fill up the whole place!
Where do they stay?
Do they pick up girls?Your questions are so funny. I don't know how to answer them.
Just ignore them and do your thing.
Why make things complicated?
Explorer8939
02-17-23, 02:27
They are a mix of all age groups and genders.
Are they allowed in Agogos? They will fill up the whole place!
Where do they stay?
Do they pick up girls?I have not seen a Follow the Flag group in Pattaya since Covid.
But, if they are back, they don't go onto gogos. These are typically lower income types, no English, don't get out much.
For the record: I speak from personal experience: I once joined a Chinese tour group, we did Vietnam, Cambodia and Thailand over 10 days, $99 cost excluding airfare. Yes, I followed the flag.
Explorer8939
02-17-23, 02:28
Camel Toe update:
The former short time room has been converted into a seating area, 4 booths with curtains.
Explorer8939
02-17-23, 02:32
I had 2 ladies over to my condo yesterday. No interaction between them, but it was still fun. I will leave out the details, except after a large amount of tequila was consumed, they got naked on my sofa, and I did them individually and together.
2000 baht per lady. They were happy, and I was happy.
BTW, I had one lady come to my condo, we went to some bars, and she picked the second lady.
Explorer8939
02-17-23, 04:37
I did you guys a favor last night.
At one point in the evening, while I was on the sofa with 2 ladies, one of them was trying to give me a half assed hand job. The other lady told her that she didn't know what she was doing, and proceeded to show her one technique she had learned from me, to use one hand to put pressure below my balls, sort of a prostate massage. The other lady tried it, and hopefully will do that with you some day.
Cha Chumplin
02-17-23, 05:04
I feel sad for the Rich Old Thai guys who like to enjoy the 18 year young hotties from Agogo and Soi 6 or even enjoying drinking in Agogos.
They live here and are not allowed. Very frustrating.
Also since they look very similar to other Asian orientals, how does the doorman know to stop them.Thai man don't look anything like Japan, Sin, Hkg, Taiwan, Indian, Arab. Haha.
I'm rich rich are fine they get pick of the Litter.
HollyWood Bar, Mods Bar, Red Point, Where Angels Fly? NW Group. Very very good experiences. While Drunk, sober or in-between. I am happy to buy lady drinks in moderation. And then consider the up-sell. Good atmosphere too. Red Point's rooms upstairs were Nice!I doubt RedPoint is Nightwish group. Mods bar is for sure, two others I don't know.
I am not a Pattaya newbie. I have visited most of the agogos in Walking Street and LK Metro. But I usually drink on my own and buy a few lady drinks here and there and go back to my room and sleep alone. So I have very little barfine experience. Maybe then, that does make me a newbie.
This happened towards the end of last year, year 2022, when there were no restrictions to enter Thailand. Did I get scammed by the mamasan on the second day? Hell yeah, I did.
Here it goes. I'm on Day 6 of my 7-Day trip to Pattaya. I've had zero boom boom this trip. Since I've made it so far, I might as well make it 7 days no boom boom. Around 10 pm of Day 6, I end up in an obscure alley. I see a few hotties standing outside. I'm thinking let's check out the talent inside. There is a stage in the middle of this small bar, but there are only 3 girls dancing on the stage. To me, that is not an agogo. Maybe it's a hybrid bar. I'm looking to my left watching a girl at the end of the stage. As my turn my head slowly to the right, I realize there are two people standing in front of me, a little to my right. One of them is the mamasan, and she points to the girl standing next to her. Standing in front of me is a very pretty young girl, very slim and white-skinned, just how I like them. But she looks very young, maybe too young. She reminds me of the K-POP or J-POP idol members. She might be ethnically Chinese since her skin is so white. I motion her to sit next to me and she does so. I will call the girl Panda. Now, it looks like I won't make it to Day 7 no boom boom.
I ask Panda one or two questions in English and each time she replies in Thai. Great. She speaks zero English and I have no idea what she is saying. I whip out my cellphone and open the translate app. I phrase the question so that she can just answer yes or no because her cellphone is probably in her locker.
"Can you go barfine longtime?" "Yes".
"How much is the barfine?" No answer.
"Is 2 boom boom ok?" "Yes. ".
"Until what time can you stay?" (I show her my watch. She points to 6 o'clock. 6 am.).
"How old are you?" (She motions a two and a zero.).
"How much money for you?" "3,000 baht" (This she can say in English.).
A little red flag is raised in my head. While 3,000 Baht sounds reasonable for longtime, I do not believe that the mamasan will let this beautiful girl fresh from the province go for 3,000 Baht. I ask the girl one more important question.
"Do you have a Thai national ID card?" "No. ".
That is just fantastic. I have a young Thai girl fresh from the province who speaks zero English and she cannot prove her age or identity. So I might make it to Day 7 no boom boom after all. In the past, I would have given up right then and there. But nowadays, I am more persistent. The saying, "Where there is a will, there is a way. " actually works if you adopt it and truly believe in it.
I call the mamasan and ask how much for the girl longtime. She says 2,000 Baht barfine and 5,000 baht for the girl. That's what I suspected all along. I tell the mamasan the girl has no ID card. The mamasan is surprised and says, "Then you no longtime. You go upstairs shorttime. " WTF. I tell the mamasan, "It's ok. I longtime her. " The mamasan is surprised again. She must think I'm crazy.
But now, I'm fucked. I went from just having a relaxing beer to barfining a girl longtime. No English. No ID card. How am I going to get her into my hotel room? My hotel is very strict about the ID policy.
The mamasan calls the waiter over and the waiter writes on the back of the bill. 2,000 barfine + 5,000 for the girl + about 500 for drinks. Total about 7,500 Baht upfront. I say, "Hell no. I will pay for the barfine and the drinks now. I will give her 5,000 Baht in the hotel after boom boom. " They are not happy. The mamasan asks the girl if it's ok with her. Many deadbeats in Pattaya. I'm not one of them, but they do not know me. The girl says ok. The mamasan is surprised for the third time this night.
So the girl Panda changes into her outside clothes and we leave the bar. Outside her co-workers are stunned to see her get barfined. Then, it hits me. Yes, I'm slow. This is Panda's first day at work and I'm her first ever barfine. That is why Panda knows nothing about the rates. And the mamasan has no idea Panda does not have a Thai national ID card.
Now, Panda has her cellphone in her hand. I ask her again her age because to me she looks borderline illegal. Now, she says she's 19 years old. Ha! I knew it. So the mamasan probably told her to lie about her age. Many guys balk when they hear the girl's age is something-teen.
We go to get a late night meal first. Of course, she is texting someone. I'm facing the entrance to the restaurant and I see a ladyboy standing outside. And he is staring at us. Panda says, "Wait" She heads over to the ladyboy. They talk a little. Maybe Panda gives the ladyboy something like money or house keys. Panda returns a minute later. I don't bother to ask. I don't want to know. I just want to fuck her tonight. Like Enrique Iglesias sings, "Tonight, I'm fucking you. ".
I ask Panda about her ID card again. Then she shows me what looks like a student ID card from her handbag. I check the date of birth on the card. WTF! It says she is born in year 2004. It's now end of year 2022 past her birthday. That means according to her ID card, she is 18 years old. WTF! I barfined a Thai girl who becomes younger by one year every thirty minutes. In another thirty minutes, she's going to be 17 years old. Now, I'm really fucked!
I remember in 2019 before Covid. I was in Windmill Club. And the waitress was trying to pimp out her younger sister who also looked very young and spoke no English. I asked the waitress how old she is. She says her sister is 19. I ask is 19 ok? She says 19 is ok. 18 no ok. That is what she said at the time.
Outside the restaurant, Panda keeps saying, "Passport. Passport. " I ask her, "Do you have a passport?" The passport issued by the Thai government should sort out this mess for once and for all. I check the DOB on the passport. WTF! It also says she is born in year 2004. So she really is 18 years old. But Panda keeps insisting that the student ID and the passport are both wrong. She says she is born in year 2003, which would make her 19. Now, I'm fucked big time. I consider taking her back to her bar, or shop, as they like to say. How can the passport be wrong? Could it be a fake passport? I hear Bangkok is the mecca of fake ID's and documents.
As we are walking back to my hotel, I'm formulating a devious plan in my head. Bribe the security guard 500 Baht. Have him distract or make the front desk lady leave the desk. And Panda and I sneak in quietly. I have my room key with me so I do not need the front desk lady's help. I don't think the front desk lady is bendable. She might be bendable in other ways, if you get my drift.
I change my mind about the bribery and I say, "Fuck it. Let's just use her passport. " Panda and I walk straight up to the front desk. I give the front desk lady Panda's passport. She actually gives me a mischievous smile. I think she is surprised that I bring a girl to my room. She takes the passport but doesn't even open it and just says good night.
Now, I'm happy and worried at the same time. Maybe I'll get to fuck Panda tonight. But I kind of wanted the front desk lady to stop me in my tracks and yell, "You NO fuck 18 year old Thai girl tonight! You crazy? You want to go Thai prison?
After shower, Panda and I are both lying on the bed. I tell her I want a blowjob. She complies. Her blowjob is pretty good. Better than some of the 25 year old bargirls. (Later, I would get the idea that the ladyboy taught her how to give head. Maybe Panda even practices it on the ladyboy every night.) Panda says, "Condom. " Don't worry baby. I always use condom.
I put the condom on and take a look at her pussy. Her shaven pussy looks so small. I don't think I can get it in. And I'm not a big guy. I get it about halfway in. After a few thrusts, my dick comes out. I can't get it in all the way. I've had 19 year old girls before. But none of them had a pussy this tiny and this tight. Panda is still growing physically. After two years of daily barfines and further physical growth, her pussy won't be that tiny and tight anymore. I try to get it in again. This time I use more force. Panda moans a little half in pain, half in pleasure. Now, it's all the way in. I get on top of her chest to chest and starting pumping away. By now, the front desk lady would have opened Panda's passport and seen that Panda is only 18 years old. She is going to call the police. And while my pecker is embedded deep inside her pussy pounding away, the SWAT team from the Royal Thai Police is going to smashed the door in without warning. The point SWAT member is going to shoot me in the ass with a rubber pellet. (Well, it better be a rubber pellet, rather than real ammo.) And off I go to the Bangkok Hilton for the next ten years. Thank you mamasan for making me Jeffrey Epstein for the night. I'm not into the Jeffrey Epstein thing. But I get it. It feels like fucking a virgin. The tiny and tight hairless pussy that resists penetration, with the potential tabooness and all. (Is tabooness a word?) Like I said, it's my first boom boom of this trip so I do not last long. The tight pussy probably helped as well. I go to the shower and wash off. We say good night and doze off for a few hours.
As I awake, I see that Panda is not sleeping and just looking at me. Time for boom boom number 2? I think she read my mind. Panda immediately grabs my cock and it becomes hard right away. I put a condom on and try to enter her again. Again, I have trouble entering her. It goes halfway in and a few seconds later comes out again. After three or four tries, I manage to get it in. Unfortunately, I can never come twice in one night. I don't get to fuck very often. So whenever I get the chance to fuck, I fuck too hard and I end up with pelvic pain. So after about 20 minutes of pounding, I stop. It hurts. Although I do not come, for me, it is one of the best fucks ever.
It's almost 6 am. Time for Panda to go home. I want her to go also. I like getting breakfast alone early at 7 am. I walk her to her room on Soi Buakhao. It is not far from my hotel. Outside her door, I probably make a fatal mistake. I tell her to wait for me tonight. She nods a yes. Almost 100% of the communication is done via google translate.
TO BE CONTINUED in PART 2.
Banana Boi
02-17-23, 19:35
I have not seen a Follow the Flag group in Pattaya since Covid.
But, if they are back, they don't go onto gogos. These are typically lower income types, no English, don't get out much.Yes, Thais call them Zero Dollar tours which means Thailand makes no money on them. Since Thailand is looking for big spenders they nuked these tours. Wonder if they're allowed again with Thailand seeking tourists.
I used to follow these flag tour groups as they walked around Walking Street taking photos like the tour group does. If one of the groups had a pretty girl I used to choose her to walk with. They don't speak English. Since I'm fairly recognized on Walking Street all the gogo girls used to roll their eyes at me whenever I did this.
I doubt RedPoint is Nightwish group. Mods bar is for sure, two others I don't know.Where Angels Fly is definitely a Nightwish Bar. I'm pretty sure Hollywood is not.
GentileBear
02-17-23, 22:21
I doubt RedPoint is Nightwish group. Mods bar is for sure, two others I don't know.Yeah you are right. I originally posted a BRACKET for Nightwish Group just for Angeles Fly Bar. But the ISG software didn't let me post BRACKETS.
RedPoint Bar was my favorite SOY 6 bar by the way. Nice big ass couches, sexy upstairs rooms with good beds newer tile showers and most importantly. Ladies with good attitude and open minds and legs. Spent a lot of Baht here.
Explorer8939
02-18-23, 02:04
I am not a Pattaya newbie. I have visited most of the agogos in Walking Street and LK Metro. But I usually drink on my own and buy a few lady drinks here and there and go back to my room and sleep alone. So I have very little barfine experience. Maybe then, that does make me a newbie.
This happened towards the end of last year, year 2022, when there were no restrictions to enter Thailand. Did I get scammed by the mamasan on the second day? Hell yeah, I did.
Here it goes. I'm on Day 6 of my 7-Day trip to Pattaya. I've had zero boom boom this trip. Since I've made it so far, I might as well make it 7 days no boom boom. Around 10 pm of Day 6, I end up in an obscure alley. I see a few hotties standing outside. I'm thinking let's check out the talent inside. There is a stage in the middle of this small bar, but there are only 3 girls dancing on the stage. To me, that is not an agogo. Maybe it's a hybrid bar. I'm looking to my left watching a girl at the end of the stage. As my turn my head slowly to the right, I realize there are two people standing in front of me, a little to my right. One of them is the mamasan, and she points to the girl standing next to her. Standing in front of me is a very pretty young girl, very slim and white-skinned, just how I like them. But she looks very young, maybe too young. She reminds me of the K-POP or J-POP idol members. She might be ethnically Chinese since her skin is so white. I motion her to sit next to me and she does so. I will call the girl Panda. Now, it looks like I won't make it to Day 7 no boom boom.
I ask Panda one or two questions in English and each time she replies in Thai. Great. She speaks zero English and I have no idea what she is saying. I whip out my cellphone and open the translate app. I phrase the question so that she can just answer yes or no because her cellphone is probably in her locker.
"Can you go barfine longtime?" "Yes".
"How much is the barfine?" No answer.
"Is 2 boom boom ok?" "Yes. ".
"Until what time can you stay?" (I show her my watch. She points to 6 o'clock. 6 am.).
"How old are you?" (She motions a two and a zero.).
"How much money for you?" "3,000 baht" (This she can say in English.).
A little red flag is raised in my head. While 3,000 Baht sounds reasonable for longtime, I do not believe that the mamasan will let this beautiful girl fresh from the province go for 3,000 Baht. I ask the girl one more important question.
"Do you have a Thai national ID card?" "No. ".
That is just fantastic. I have a young Thai girl fresh from the province who speaks zero English and she cannot prove her age or identity. So I might make it to Day 7 no boom boom after all. In the past, I would have given up right then and there. But nowadays, I am more persistent. The saying, "Where there is a will, there is a way. " actually works if you adopt it and truly believe in it.
I call the mamasan and ask how much for the girl longtime. She says 2,000 Baht barfine and 5,000 baht for the girl. That's what I suspected all along. I tell the mamasan the girl has no ID card. The mamasan is surprised and says, "Then you no longtime. You go upstairs shorttime. " WTF. I tell the mamasan, "It's ok. I longtime her. " The mamasan is surprised again. She must think I'm crazy.
But now, I'm fucked. I went from just having a relaxing beer to barfining a girl longtime. No English. No ID card. How am I going to get her into my hotel room? My hotel is very strict about the ID policy.
The mamasan calls the waiter over and the waiter writes on the back of the bill. 2,000 barfine + 5,000 for the girl + about 500 for drinks. Total about 7,500 Baht upfront. I say, "Hell no. I will pay for the barfine and the drinks now. I will give her 5,000 Baht in the hotel after boom boom. " They are not happy. The mamasan asks the girl if it's ok with her. Many deadbeats in Pattaya. I'm not one of them, but they do not know me. The girl says ok. The mamasan is surprised for the third time this night.
So the girl Panda changes into her outside clothes and we leave the bar. Outside her co-workers are stunned to see her get barfined. Then, it hits me. Yes, I'm slow. This is Panda's first day at work and I'm her first ever barfine. That is why Panda knows nothing about the rates. And the mamasan has no idea Panda does not have a Thai national ID card.
Now, Panda has her cellphone in her hand. I ask her again her age because to me she looks borderline illegal. Now, she says she's 19 years old. Ha! I knew it. So the mamasan probably told her to lie about her age. Many guys balk when they hear the girl's age is something-teen.
We go to get a late night meal first. Of course, she is texting someone. I'm facing the entrance to the restaurant and I see a ladyboy standing outside. And he is staring at us. Panda says, "Wait" She heads over to the ladyboy. They talk a little. Maybe Panda gives the ladyboy something like money or house keys. Panda returns a minute later. I don't bother to ask. I don't want to know. I just want to fuck her tonight. Like Enrique Iglesias sings, "Tonight, I'm fucking you. ".
I ask Panda about her ID card again. Then she shows me what looks like a student ID card from her handbag. I check the date of birth on the card. WTF! It says she is born in year 2004. It's now end of year 2022 past her birthday. That means according to her ID card, she is 18 years old. WTF! I barfined a Thai girl who becomes younger by one year every thirty minutes. In another thirty minutes, she's going to be 17 years old. Now, I'm really fucked!
I remember in 2019 before Covid. I was in Windmill Club. And the waitress was trying to pimp out her younger sister who also looked very young and spoke no English. I asked the waitress how old she is. She says her sister is 19. I ask is 19 ok? She says 19 is ok. 18 no ok. That is what she said at the time.
Outside the restaurant, Panda keeps saying, "Passport. Passport. " I ask her, "Do you have a passport?" The passport issued by the Thai government should sort out this mess for once and for all. I check the DOB on the passport. WTF! It also says she is born in year 2004. So she really is 18 years old. But Panda keeps insisting that the student ID and the passport are both wrong. She says she is born in year 2003, which would make her 19. Now, I'm fucked big time. I consider taking her back to her bar, or shop, as they like to say. How can the passport be wrong? Could it be a fake passport? I hear Bangkok is the mecca of fake ID's and documents.
As we are walking back to my hotel, I'm formulating a devious plan in my head. Bribe the security guard 500 Baht. Have him distract or make the front desk lady leave the desk. And Panda and I sneak in quietly. I have my room key with me so I do not need the front desk lady's help. I don't think the front desk lady is bendable. She might be bendable in other ways, if you get my drift.
I change my mind about the bribery and I say, "Fuck it. Let's just use her passport. " Panda and I walk straight up to the front desk. I give the front desk lady Panda's passport. She actually gives me a mischievous smile. I think she is surprised that I bring a girl to my room. She takes the passport but doesn't even open it and just says good night.
Now, I'm happy and worried at the same time. Maybe I'll get to fuck Panda tonight. But I kind of wanted the front desk lady to stop me in my tracks and yell, "You NO fuck 18 year old Thai girl tonight! You crazy? You want to go Thai prison?
After shower, Panda and I are both lying on the bed. I tell her I want a blowjob. She complies. Her blowjob is pretty good. Better than some of the 25 year old bargirls. (Later, I would get the idea that the ladyboy taught her how to give head. Maybe Panda even practices it on the ladyboy every night.) Panda says, "Condom. " Don't worry baby. I always use condom.
I put the condom on and take a look at her pussy. Her shaven pussy looks so small. I don't think I can get it in. And I'm not a big guy. I get it about halfway in. After a few thrusts, my dick comes out. I can't get it in all the way. I've had 19 year old girls before. But none of them had a pussy this tiny and this tight. Panda is still growing physically. After two years of daily barfines and further physical growth, her pussy won't be that tiny and tight anymore. I try to get it in again. This time I use more force. Panda moans a little half in pain, half in pleasure. Now, it's all the way in. I get on top of her chest to chest and starting pumping away. By now, the front desk lady would have opened Panda's passport and seen that Panda is only 18 years old. She is going to call the police. And while my pecker is embedded deep inside her pussy pounding away, the SWAT team from the Royal Thai Police is going to smashed the door in without warning. The point SWAT member is going to shoot me in the ass with a rubber pellet. (Well, it better be a rubber pellet, rather than real ammo.) And off I go to the Bangkok Hilton for the next ten years. Thank you mamasan for making me Jeffrey Epstein for the night. I'm not into the Jeffrey Epstein thing. But I get it. It feels like fucking a virgin. The tiny and tight hairless pussy that resists penetration, with the potential tabooness and all. (Is tabooness a word?) Like I said, it's my first boom boom of this trip so I do not last long. The tight pussy probably helped as well. I go to the shower and wash off. We say good night and doze off for a few hours.
As I awake, I see that Panda is not sleeping and just looking at me. Time for boom boom number 2? I think she read my mind. Panda immediately grabs my cock and it becomes hard right away. I put a condom on and try to enter her again. Again, I have trouble entering her. It goes halfway in and a few seconds later comes out again. After three or four tries, I manage to get it in. Unfortunately, I can never come twice in one night. I don't get to fuck very often. So whenever I get the chance to fuck, I fuck too hard and I end up with pelvic pain. So after about 20 minutes of pounding, I stop. It hurts. Although I do not come, for me, it is one of the best fucks ever.
It's almost 6 am. Time for Panda to go home. I want her to go also. I like getting breakfast alone early at 7 am. I walk her to her room on Soi Buakhao. It is not far from my hotel. Outside her door, I probably make a fatal mistake. I tell her to wait for me tonight. She nods a yes. Almost 100% of the communication is done via google translate.
TO BE CONTINUED in PART 2.The age of consent in Thailand is 18.
In fact, ladies who are 18 or 19 can work bar, they just can't drink alcohol.
Explorer8939
02-18-23, 02:06
One of the ladies in my rotation told me why she can't work in a BJ bar: if she has more than one customer in a shift, her jaw hurts.
Because she can't give a quick BJ. Once she has a dick in front of her, she will play with it indefinitely.
Explorer8939
02-18-23, 07:46
Yes, Thais call them Zero Dollar tours which means Thailand makes no money on them. Since Thailand is looking for big spenders they nuked these tours. Wonder if they're allowed again with Thailand seeking tourists.
I used to follow these flag tour groups as they walked around Walking Street taking photos like the tour group does. If one of the groups had a pretty girl I used to choose her to walk with. They don't speak English. Since I'm fairly recognized on Walking Street all the gogo girls used to roll their eyes at me whenever I did this.Thailand did not stop Zero Dollar Tours, they were halted by the Chinese government in response to Covid. Chinese groups were prohibited from leaving China, regardless of destination.
It is unclear whether there is infrastructure in place to resume Zero Dollar Tours.
I should note that Chinese groups often attended the 69 sex show in Naklua, so some Thais made baht off Chinese groups.
Where Angels Fly is definitely a Nightwish Bar. I'm pretty sure Hollywood is not.Hollywood is not a Nightwish bar, it's owned by two Australian guys, nor is Red point. Nightwish bars all look the same with a boilerplate of an open bar, single sized and same layout, you can see their branding in all the bars. This open to the street format has turned much of Soi 6 into a late afternoon drinking street instead of the afternoon location for fun.
Hollywood is not a Nightwish bar, it's owned by two Australian guys, nor is Red point. Nightwish bars all look the same with a boilerplate of an open bar, single sized and same layout, you can see their branding in all the bars. This open to the street format has turned much of Soi 6 into a late afternoon drinking street instead of the afternoon location for fun.Question. Should I be avoiding Nightwish Group bars altogether?
Member #4807
02-18-23, 14:53
Returned to Patts after covid shit, first few beers to chill and jet lag. Not into mentioning names but 3 different bars quoted 1600 lady plus 400 room rate. Is this the new trend?
SplitPersona
02-18-23, 15:06
I have not seen a Follow the Flag group in Pattaya since Covid.
But, if they are back, they don't go onto gogos. These are typically lower income types, no English, don't get out much.
For the record: I speak from personal experience: I once joined a Chinese tour group, we did Vietnam, Cambodia and Thailand over 10 days, $99 cost excluding airfare. Yes, I followed the flag.$99 includes everything!! Room Board Food Flight for 10 days! No way!
To answer your other question. The many Chinese flag tours in walking street since last week.
SplitPersona
02-18-23, 15:10
Last week I saw a totally handicapped person in his wheelchair. And the wheelchair was lodged on a bigger version of golf cart. Parked halfway in Soi 6 street.
He was with his wingman.
Both of them had two Soi 6 girls sitting in the golf cart drinking beers👍.
And doing naughty things.
In the middle of the street.
SplitPersona
02-18-23, 15:16
This guy parks his yellow lamborghini on beach road at opportunistic times and must be a player. I changed my approach to the night ladies of coconut bar by asking them "do you want to go with me in my car? - while pointing to it. " Of course only the pointing was communicated but whatever. Call me jealous. But I am truly honored that someone who has the big bucks prefers to walk on beach road at night.
Other observations of my past month here: NightWish Group on Soy 6 - my strategy was to stay away from all of them this trip. And boy was I wrong!! Ended up being Soy 6 saved my entire holiday since they are PROFESSIONALLY run and in my opinion Consistent. Big FUCK YOU to the staff at Wild Things Bar - "Wild Things Bar" Soy 6 - next to The Corner Bar and HollyWood. This is a clip joint. Worst experience ever. I made the same mistake by being forced in and slammed lady drinks. I was drunk. But remembered from video's this place was suppose to be cool. I might be stupid drunk but I remember how I am treated. And so off to Real Soy 6 bars I went along with my Baht. I was the only customer both times and the 2 ladies drank as fast as a Tijuana hooker in HK / Adilitas does. Never will I enter their premises. Very shady. Out 2 K Baht in under 4 minutes. Ok now the good stuff!
HollyWood Bar, Mods Bar, Red Point, Where Angels Fly? NW Group. Very very good experiences. While Drunk, sober or in-between. I am happy to buy lady drinks in moderation. And then consider the up-sell. Good atmosphere too. Red Point's rooms upstairs were Nice!
BBFS CIP. The most important thing for me. Still not easy or offered up front much but still obtainable.
Met some guys who insisted I go to Kink. Told them I am not into the big glamourous bars. Much preferer open bars- said I would love it. Well I went to Kink alone. Not knowing about upstairs until I left. Then came back and went upstairs in Kink and I see why a lot of guys would like to see pussy fingering shows and a touchy feelie bath shower setup. Just not for me. Give me Soy 6 and BeachRoad at night.
Russians are Coming! So many Russians in Pattaya now! Must be due to the wars?
Hemingways has good Pasta.
Who is the Psychotic Woman, 35 +/- short hair on a Bike who yells and screams at the massage places on Soy Honey Every morning? Is this a religious Repent / sinner expression? I am for sure you guys who are there now also see AND HEAR her. Just curious:
Went to Billabong and the LK Metro outside bars and Rock Factory to chill and recover after Soy 6 - good strategy.
Soy 7 - man these ladies got hit by the ugly stick WTF happened to Hedonism? - Hook Up Corner was okay for a few drinks.
Maggy Mays. Sorry couldn't do it. That area on pothole smells bad and I didn't get a good vibe.
Dressing well. Long sleeved collared shirt and Smiling like a game show host. I tried this strategy and fuckk me jebus. Yes it marginally works. Especially on Beach Road. Met a nice sales lady from a mall who was recently fired. We discussed business, using google translate and cosmetics. She wants to open a shop. Of course my lessons mean more boom boom as it turned a short time from beach road into a long time multiple pop day. But I think dressing well. Which someone else noted here. Does seem to work!
I said NO! To Indian Tailored Suits, horoscope. Lottery, Rolex Watches, bracelets, and especially condoms.
This trip Soy 6 was the clear winner -.I have seen that Lamborghini.
It probably belongs to a owner of a establishment on other side of the street. Not a monger.
BTW I have also seen a glamorous car turned into a boom box with amazing speakers everywhere including the seats and the trunk.
And star studded lights on every inch of the car.
He parks the car on the side of the Beach Road and when he plays music all the girls are dancing.
He had to drive away when some moron from a nearby hotel complain to the police.
That the noise is not letting him sleep at 9 o'clock at night.
Glad you mentioned Tijuana. Do you think pink or windmill can hold a candle to even a small section of Hong Kong🤣.
..I check the DOB on the passport. WTF! It also says she is born in year 2004. So she really is 18 years old. But Panda keeps insisting that the student ID and the passport are both wrong. She says she is born in year 2003, which would make her 19. Now, I'm fucked big time. I consider taking her back to her bar, or shop, as they like to say. How can the passport be wrong? Could it be a fake passport? I hear Bangkok is the mecca of fake ID's and documents...I remember when I visited VN a local told me that they count age different there. They add one more year to their age as if on the date of their birth they are already 1 year old. Maybe that's similiar to what they do in TH. That was a few decades ago not sure if that's what's going on or she's just trying to trick you LOL But yea like the other guy said content age is 18 so you should be good.
Christian G
02-18-23, 17:55
Returned to Patts after covid shit, first few beers to chill and jet lag. Not into mentioning names but 3 different bars quoted 1600 lady plus 400 room rate. Is this the new trend?555 is a new trend only with guys who drop their panties and accept these prices. Why not mentiong name of these bars so everybody can avoid it? Soi6 is 1000 + room fee.
GentileBear
02-19-23, 00:19
Question. Should I be avoiding Nightwish Group bars altogether?No. I appologize my post was Spastic because it was my posts on Discord and then I added more to make it a trip report.
I was happy with Nightwish Group. Also they take credit cards and some of the bars have Slots for the ladies to put their phones into so as to give US the attention we are paying for. You see. Some ladies don't get it. We are not interested in watching them eat black cock-roaches, run across the street to a Dress and high heels street vendor or text their ladyboy friends when WE are paying for expensive ladydrinks. I noticed that NightWish group bars seem to always have a manager who keeps them in check. That being said, things change. And my previous trips I had more luck in beer bars near Tree Town. Since Soy6 is one big street. I would start on the Pizza restaurant side. Where the Sweedish man has a nice little place, and head north trying to find the ladies who peak your interest. I go by Vibe and how sweet she seems to be then after a LD ask her if she wants to boom boom. Not a perfect scrience. But I'll tell you what. When you are BEGGED to buy LDs and BEGGED to buy the waitress a LD in the first 30 seconds like the Wild Things Bar - that's a huge turn-off and red flag. I noticed that the Nightwish bar girls do not immediately BEG for LDs upfront. - just my 2 cents.
Explorer8939
02-19-23, 03:04
$99 includes everything!! Room Board Food Flight for 10 days! No way!
To answer your other question. The many Chinese flag tours in walking street since last week.Yes, way. Excluding airfare. I toured many parts of China via $99 dollar tours, then another tour of Indochina, including Thailand.
However, anyone who has taken one will recount the dreaded shopping stops, where everyone is subjected to classic Chinese marketing. Many on the tour would spend hundreds of dollars on crazy stuff. The only thing I ever bought were silk sheets, which are on my bed now.
On the tour, we woke at 6 am, and the day would end about 8 pm. That gave me time for a quick trip to Soi 6.
Returned to Patts after covid shit, first few beers to chill and jet lag. Not into mentioning names but 3 different bars quoted 1600 lady plus 400 room rate. Is this the new trend?I never ask the girl's price when I take a girl to the room at Soi 6. When I'm done I give the girl 1000. The only price I enquire about beforehand is of course the room price as this needs to be paid for upfront. The room price varies between 300 and 400. The 300-baht rooms in some bars are not necessarily worst, in fact they can be better than 400-baht rooms in other bars. Bars with lousy rooms (broken mattress, no mirrors, weak aircon) are something to watch out for and avoid IMO. A lousy room can ruin a session just as much as a girl's bad attitude.
Explorer8939
02-19-23, 06:59
It's still busy in Pattaya. The streets are jammed at night, Bolt takes forever to show up, and I get relatively few lady requests to come to my condo. And occasional cancellations.
Things won't slow down until after Songkran.
We started off with a couple beers and gummies at Tree town before we then headed to High Rollers.Excuse my ignorance, but what are gummies?
The age of consent in Thailand is 18.
In fact, ladies who are 18 or 19 can work bar, they just can't drink alcohol.Actually, the age of consent in Thailand is 15.
But you're right they have to be 18 to work in a bar.
Actually, the age of consent in Thailand is 15.
But you're right they have to be 18 to work in a bar.Thailand statutory rape law is violated when an individual has consensual sexual intercourse with a person under age 15. However, sex with a minor under age 18 is a compoundable offense, regardless of consent.
Actually, the age of consent in Thailand is 15.
But you're right they have to be 18 to work in a bar.Irrespective of a country's age of consent, whether it be 12,15, 17, etc. , as far as interpol are concerned the age of consent is 18 for foreign nationals. That is why girls need to be 18 to work in bars. Having sexual relations with a girl under 18 will most certainly result in being prosecuted even if she gives consent.
Irrespective of a country's age of consent, whether it be 12,15, 17, etc. , as far as interpol are concerned the age of consent is 18 for foreign nationals. That is why girls need to be 18 to work in bars. Having sexual relations with a girl under 18 will most certainly result in being prosecuted even if she gives consent.I agree 100%. A 17 year old is a minor in most countries including Thailand.
Question. Should I be avoiding Nightwish Group bars altogether?That's up to you, you can still find girls to go with but you have to watch out for the drink only girls.
LoneRangers
02-19-23, 11:34
Actually, the age of consent in Thailand is 15.
But you're right they have to be 18 to work in a bar.In USA (and probably thailand) marijuana edibles are very popular, the most popular are probably the gummy candies. Pretty sure that's what he meant.
Thailand did not stop Zero Dollar Tours, they were halted by the Chinese government in response to Covid. Chinese groups were prohibited from leaving China, regardless of destination.
It is unclear whether there is infrastructure in place to resume Zero Dollar Tours.
I should note that Chinese groups often attended the 69 sex show in Naklua, so some Thais made baht off Chinese groups.China halting group tours has nothing to do with Zero Dollar packages, they just stopped all outbound package tours due to covid.
It was actually Thai govermnent that cracked down the bulk of these tours couple of years earlier already, I recall 2017 or even 2016.
I recall there was even some court cases around this without any convictions as nothing directly illegal.
Stopped mainly done by freezeing the OA Transport bus company that had 2000-3000 buses for this, effectively the main enabler for the system.
Stop that and confiscate the buses and voila can not do any more. Where those buses are now, I have no idea. Probably in some parking lots around Bangkok.
Sure someone has seen them unless sold out to some other country. White buses with OA painted on sides.
However even if still ready for operation, unlikely Thai govt will allow this biz o resume due cashflow going directly back to China.
SplitPersona
02-19-23, 13:56
Went to Paradise Agogo Saturday night and it was fun! The girl with black dress always. Who always does the splits. Was doing her thing on stage. Any feedback on her?
Girls had two underwear and two bras (one is padding).
There was some lavish cookout event at lady love Agogo.
SplitPersona
02-19-23, 14:00
China halting group tours has nothing to do with Zero Dollar packages, they just stopped all outbound package tours due to covid.
It was actually Thai govermnent that cracked down the bulk of these tours couple of years earlier already, I recall 2017 or even 2016.
I recall there was even some court cases around this without any convictions as nothing directly illegal.
Stopped mainly done by freezeing the OA Transport bus company that had 2000-3000 buses for this, effectively the main enabler for the system.
Stop that and confiscate the buses and voila can not do any more. Where those buses are now, I have no idea. Probably in some parking lots around Bangkok.
Sure someone has seen them unless sold out to some other country. White buses with OA painted on sides.
However even if still ready for operation, unlikely Thai govt will allow this biz o resume due cashflow going directly back to China.As of last week, Chinese tours are in full swing. Can't miss them. Can't avoid these Freight Trains.
SplitPersona
02-19-23, 14:07
Right now there is some Indian movie shooting in progress on street by Fahrenheit gogo.
A guy is working on wearing a harness or a vest.
Christian G
02-19-23, 14:18
Question. Should I be avoiding Nightwish Group bars altogether?They are the worst plague that happened in soi6, they completely ruined the soi and spoiled the girls.
If you want to fuck a girl in a nightwish bar, just take her upstair for 1000 + room fee and not spend money in drinks.
Explorer8939
02-19-23, 14:21
China halting group tours has nothing to do with Zero Dollar packages, they just stopped all outbound package tours due to covid.
It was actually Thai govermnent that cracked down the bulk of these tours couple of years earlier already, I recall 2017 or even 2016.
I recall there was even some court cases around this without any convictions as nothing directly illegal.
Stopped mainly done by freezeing the OA Transport bus company that had 2000-3000 buses for this, effectively the main enabler for the system.
Stop that and confiscate the buses and voila can not do any more. Where those buses are now, I have no idea. Probably in some parking lots around Bangkok.
Sure someone has seen them unless sold out to some other country. White buses with OA painted on sides.
However even if still ready for operation, unlikely Thai govt will allow this biz o resume due cashflow going directly back to China.I recall the Follow the Flag tours continued right up to the Chinese ban, and then petered out over the next week, as the tours finished. Despite Covid, there were still some tours in Pattaya in the week that followed the ban. Then, Walking Street was empty.
Explorer8939
02-19-23, 14:24
They are the worst plague that happened in soi6, they completely ruined the soi and spoiled the girls.
If you want to fuck a girl in a nightwish bar, just take her upstair for 1000 + room fee and not spend money in drinks.I have no idea why you would not want there to be such ST bars.
I don't go to Soi 6, but I appreciate there being such an option.
They are the worst plague that happened in soi6, they completely ruined the soi and spoiled the girls.
If you want to fuck a girl in a nightwish bar, just take her upstair for 1000 + room fee and not spend money in drinks.My undercover operative was able to intercept this Nightwish Group internal memo that was apparently sent to all staff members. This is the auto translate app version. The original text was in Thai.
Barfine is now 2,000 Baht if you take out the girl early.
The rest is self-explanatory.
However, I do not understand the last part regarding short-time. But it looks like they are seriously putting mileage on the girls. And 50 bucks should be 50 Baht.
Irrespective of a country's age of consent, whether it be 12,15, 17, etc. , as far as interpol are concerned the age of consent is 18 for foreign nationals. That is why girls need to be 18 to work in bars. Having sexual relations with a girl under 18 will most certainly result in being prosecuted even if she gives consent.I know. And it's not just Interpol, but many countries have laws that forbid their citizens to have sexual relations abroad with people under 18, no matter what the age of consent in their home country is.
Thailand statutory rape law is violated when an individual has consensual sexual intercourse with a person under age 15. However, sex with a minor under age 18 is a compoundable offense, regardless of consent.I suppose the latter does not apply to people who both are under 18, and at least 15?
.... Bars with lousy rooms (broken mattress, no mirrors, weak aircon) are something to watch out for and avoid IMO. A lousy room can ruin a session just as much as a girl's bad attitude.Which do you prefer, a girl with good service in a lousy room or a girl with lousy service in a luxurious room?
Excuse my ignorance, but what are gummies?Gummies are edible marijuana in the shape and form of a gummy candy.
I suppose the latter does not apply to people who both are under 18, and at least 15?Technically, it is also not ok. But it becomes a case where both parties can file charges against each other and it would become a circus. Anyway, the Thais do it all the time in the provinces and it is never prosecuted although the law exists.
Thailand also does not have a Romeo and Juliet law, but that law applies to when at least one of the parties is under the age of consent. You would want to have this law if you were a 16 year old Thai boy wanting to fuck a 14 year old Thai girl. (I guess it doesn't have to be boy / girl.).
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