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Dumbass
11-02-09, 11:35
I thought Halloween would be a little more festive in Patts, but it turned out to be a bit of a pain in the ass. Beach Rd has plenty of girls, but man you really had deal with all the stupid stalls.

In summary I give me trip a C+. I met my girlfriend there first night. She was very cool and did not go to work (Living Dolls 1), so I did not have to buy a bunch of drinks and pay BF. I took her to Lucifer for about 1 hr and then back to my room. She left the next day around 2pm. Man she gave it too me 5 times and I tipped her 1300B. She showed my a bar called Bamboo and said the drinks are cheap and local band is not bad.

So my dumbass did not take her there, but went by myself. There is no BF and all the girls are FL, so they do not get a cut of the drinks. It was kinda cool to hang out and not have a hostess come by every 5 min and ask if I want another beer. The catch, these girls are not 20-something. I did end up taking one back with me for LT. She never asked how much so I just gave her $1200B just before buying her lunch. I also paid her motor bike taxi (60B). Bamboo is between Beach Rd and 2nd Rd on the Soi that is at the beginning of Walking st.

My last night I went to Silver Star on Walking St. Made another lame excuse to my local GF as I am stupid and want to sample many girls while in Patts. I see they expanded the place and added 2 more stages of girls. I went to the original part near the hot tub and eyed a really nice stunner. Perfect tits and ass and just a wonderful smile. Over the next hour I also "hung out" with 2 hostesses and wait girls to the tune of 1200B, plus I bought 2 ping pong buckets. Now on to the stunner. BF for her is 700B (dancer), but she completely killed my hard on when she said she wants 3000B for LT!! She said 2500B would work, but then my mojo was GONE! I had already dropped 2500B in drinks and tips. There is no way this makes me a high roller, so I am not sure why she came at me with 3000B. I took a hostess girl (well she was about 32yo). BF 500B and I tipped her 1200B the next morning. She was fun, but I think she got her period as there was an accident with the sheets (and my leg, and the condom...you get the picture). I only had one pop with her and kicked her out at 11am. At least her attitude was good, the stunner was just going to take my money and look pretty damn good doing it.

I learned that I need a wingman. It's more fun with a buddy or 2. If I do go by myself, I will go to all new bars, and none back to back. To me, Patts is slowly turning into Singapore (of course a really dirty Singapore). I know it has always been about the money, but I remember when Patts was also about having fun getting the money.


DA

Fryatuck
11-02-09, 23:36
Hello all, this is my first question/posting on this forum (newbie alert! ) I have just returned home back to cold, miserable England after a glorious two weeks in Thailand (Bangkok and mainly in Pattaya)

I am in contact with one of the girls that I picked up from Dollshouse on Walking Street. Apparantly the bar fine at Dollshouse has increased this week from 600THB all week to 800THB Sunday through to Thursday and 1000THB on Friday and Saturday. Does any one know if this is thas the norm? I know that I was in the LOS during low season, but I guess my question is. Does the cost of the Bar Fine reflect the season? Or is this an attempt by the bar to increase profits?

I am planning my next trip to the LOS next year, and just wondered if the cost of mongering is increasing there.

Betong
11-03-09, 03:08
....although Pattaya is still the biggest sex market in the world, it has undoubtedly been in a rapid decline over the last five years or so.There's been no lack of the-sky-is-falling sort of alarmism over Pattaya for at least 20 years now . . . but, yeah, something rather nasty has been happening over the past few years. Both the quality and the attitudes of the girls have been dropping -- a bad combination. It takes a lot more work to find good ones than it used to.

I don't think there's much need to worry about finding sex in Pattaya for a long while to come, but in an increasingly hard-edged, commercial kind of way.

Daddy07
11-03-09, 06:25
... Apparantly the bar fine at Dollshouse has increased this week from 600THB all week to 800THB Sunday through to Thursday and 1000THB on Friday and Saturday. Does any one know if this is thas the norm? ...
Many go-go bars increase bar fines during holidays, especially Christmas through New Year's Eve. Last night was Loi Krathong, which also qualifies for an increase. All will be back to normal today.

Amjeck
11-03-09, 06:34
but, yeah, something rather nasty has been happening over the past few years. Both the quality and the attitudes of the girls have been dropping -- a bad combination. It takes a lot more work to find good ones than it used to.

I don't think there's much need to worry about finding sex in Pattaya for a long while to come, but in an increasingly hard-edged, commercial kind of way.
Couldn't agree with you more!

Opebo
11-03-09, 08:33
Sure hope you guys are right.

Maybe I was just suffering a panic attack.

They are right, but it is perfectly natural to panic under the circumstances - when you know things always get worse, and that extinction is the inevitable end result, its natural to fear potential signs and symptoms. Its a lot like life in general.

Regarding the pronounced general decline in Pattaya I can report that it has not had much of an effect on those of us willing to fuck the haggard, old, and very rough-looking girls. But if you must have cute young girls - well, you have a hard row to hoe, my friends.

Naked Gunz
11-03-09, 12:50
those blow job bars, ([CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900), bj bar, ect) provide some privacy? curtain or something, or do you have to play porn star? hard enough for me to get off on a bj w/o eyes on the performance.

Fryatuck
11-03-09, 21:06
Many go-go bars increase bar fines during holidays, especially Christmas through New Year's Eve. Last night was Loi Krathong, which also qualifies for an increase. All will be back to normal today.Thank you Daddy07 for the reply, I am hoping to be in LOS for April 2010, I know it's Sonkran around 13/14th, I guess that the gogo's will no doubt be charging more for bar fines at this time. I'm just going to have to look around a bit more with the indy's! I know that the incease is only about £4-8 but thats a street meal haha. Every penny counts as they say.

Gaolei
11-03-09, 21:33
Yes, Bamboo. It is right there before everyones' eyes, but nobody notices. I went there for the first time last month after walking by it a hundred times. The next night I was in Pattaya Beer Garden and several of the freelancers said I saw you in Bamboo. Ah, so this is where they all go when they leave here and the street. It is especially popular when it's raining. You can meet a reasonably good babe with no bar fine, and relatively cheap beer and no lady drinks. Check it out some time!

Goyave
11-03-09, 22:23
those blow job bars, ([CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900), bj bar, ect) provide some privacy? curtain or something, or do you have to play porn star? ...yes, at [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900) for instance, you may be "serviced" behind curtains.

Fast Eddie 48
11-04-09, 05:54
those blow job bars, ([CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900), bj bar, ect) provide some privacy? curtain or something, or do you have to play porn star? hard enough for me to get off on a bj w/o eyes on the performance.naked,

i don't think you will worry about other guys watching if are getting blow, the girl there are pro, only thing i worry about is not to cim too soon.

fast eddie 48

Amjeck
11-04-09, 08:03
Regarding the pronounced general decline in Pattaya I can report that it has not had much of an effect on those of us willing to fuck the haggard, old, and very rough-looking girls. But if you must have cute young girls - well, you have a hard row to hoe, my friends.
100% accurate!

Naked Gunz
11-04-09, 11:03
.

But if you must have cute young girls - well, you have a hard row to hoe, my friends.

Seems the hardcore and haggard are mainly on beach road. The right approach to a cutie in the mall will work too.

Thanks for the info on BJ bars guys!

Amjeck
11-04-09, 19:54
Seems the hardcore and haggard are mainly on beach road.
They are everywhere in Pattaya. Very easy to find.

Showdown
11-05-09, 03:54
as i was literally heading out the door to leave thailand my milker called me. she said she had a girl i had to see. she said she was full of milk to the point where it was dripping out of her breasts on its own! now i immediately said no because 1. i was not interested in paying the airline a fee to change my flight 2. i had all my bags packed and was not interested in dragging them back to pattaya 3. my main milker had gotten lazy the second time i saw her. she let the other girl do most of the work.

but i said no guts no glory. i got a taxi to pattaya and off i went. i arrived at my main milkers hotel off of 2nd road where she lives. the girl she had ,named fern, was only average in looks. but boy she had a great attitude. friendly, cock grabbing, just a big bundle of lactating joy. i gave her tits a little squeeze as we sat outside the hotel talking and my god the squirt was so powerful it shot up through her bra and through her shirt. i got her and the main milker in the room asap!

fern performed wonderfully. huge nipples(see pic). first she let me film and take as many photos as i wanted to. guys i tell you the girl was just sitting down and the milk was dripping like a faucet. i mean she would sit down and in 30 seconds her legs were covered with milk without her even touching her breasts! check out the pic. she then gave me an incredible bj, anal everything. she let me shoot a huge load right onto her face. goddamn the main milker can find them for me! i gave her 1,000 for her incredible performance. guys that is a deal! the main milker i only gave 500 because she breasts fed before i got there(dumb ass) and had no milk and she did very little during the performance.

as i went to leave i said i will just leave tomorrow, called the airline, paid another change fee and stayed in pattaya overnight. i went to [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900) twice and got a great hj at a small bar on soi 6. all in all a great trip.

NicFrenchy
11-05-09, 04:53
Excellent report and Pictures!! Any chance to get in contact with milking ladies in BKK?

Belmont
11-06-09, 04:34
For ALL these raids they let the falang go!

Lucifer’s on Walking Street was raided by police last night for operating after legal hours. The 400 patrons and staff were rounded up and subjected to drug tests. Those who failed the tests were charged with crimes. There are apparently no 4th, 5th, or 6th Amendments or similar Bill of Rights in the LOS – a chilling prospect to say the least, the thought that police here can force you to incriminate yourself.

Curiously, in this instance, all the foreign patrons were told to leave the premises before the drug testing began. Imagine that! Farang treated better than natives by the cops in Thailand.

Goyave
11-06-09, 07:03
For ALL these raids they let the falang go!

Not always. Ok, it's not the same kind of raid, but here's one example:
http://www.mangosauce.com/nightlife/thai_police_piss_test_bangkok_nightclub.php

Esclavo
11-06-09, 10:10
For ALL these raids they let the falang go!But you should not rely on that! Prisons in Thailand have a lot of inmates caught in illegal activities, especially drugs. So stay safe and have fun.

Esclavo

Michael Tours
11-07-09, 18:32
i was just back in pattay in october, after 3 years since last time.
for me the things was about just as before, some new buildings of course and most of the girls too.
well still possible to find some goodones at the beachroad 500 bath . then the most of the prices was like before, yeah the barfines was no 300 bath and 200 bath before. stayed at eastiny place in soi 8 for 1200bath with breakfastbuffet, and they have a nice swimmingpool. very girlfriendly and not noisy, so yes i was happy there. was at some go go s and licked some pussy in public, was fun, and in soi 6 it was crazy, so many small hotties and was possible to lick and fingering them in public too, also [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900) was good as always. well have some pics for the photo gallery , later.
in december i am off to lima , peru to spend the summer there ,at least until abril. so hope to have some fun there as well.

take care , but have fun michael

Dextro Sol
11-08-09, 12:38
finally made it to the den.. devils den.

at the moment my wife and i are staying in koh samed. two days ago i told her my mate in rayong had asked me over for a motorbike ride and to watch fotball on tv... istead i booked a taxi for pattaya and devils den. the driver had a hard time to find soi lk metro, but finally we found it. i went past [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900) on my way there , rounded the corner and saw the sign. went in at the same time as a younger guy, maybe 30 and we sat down at the bar. cerberus came over and asked if we knew what place this was... i said i did, but the other guy wanted to know more. cerberus told the whole story and ended with the words... dont forget about the yellow line, right is right and left is wrong. then he called for the ladies to line up.

i had checked up their web site before, and had the name kitty in my head. didn't find her so i had to ask.. but i still didn't recognize her but she was a cutie anyway so my decision was done. only problem was the other guy had chosen her too.. so we had to toss the coin and luckily i won. went over to kitty and asked her to pick the best as her partner.. her choise was beer. we went out and in next door and upstairs.

into the room and the girls started to undress right away, and so did i. and then the weirdest two hours of my life started...

after shower and drying kitty started a bbbj and i had beer sat on my chest so i could lick her. then on with condom and fuck kitty cowgirl.. after that condom of and i came in kittys mouth. after i was drained, kitty came up and kissed me... cumsharing with me.. so, now i know how my sperm tastes...

after washing off kitty asked if i wanted to be handcuffed and i approved. so she ran away and came back with cuffs and sexy outfit for themselves, including high boots. then a new bbbj, new condow and i fucked beer. after a while i told her i wanted to switch hole, so she got up on her knees and i started to penetrate her asshole slowly. after a while she relaxed and i could start fuck her faster... until i finally came for the second time.

off with their sexy outfit and i asked the girls to play while i watched. kitty started to lick out beers pussy and after that she took on a strap on and started to fuck beer missionary. i played with both of them and after a while kitty said i could put on a condom and fuck her doggy while she was fucking beer with the strap on. i did and i think this was one of my lifes biggest moments... so after a while a came a third time.. nothing that has happened for me in many years, if ever...

during the whole act kitty was feeding me beer from her mouth.. also that pretty weird.

well, two hours was soon gone and we took a shower, i took some photos of the girls. down to the bar again and i noticed that kitty, a woman of 35 with tree kids, (without any trace) smiled at her boss, i guess at least she and i had a good time, hard to tell about beer, she seemed more concerned about eye make up during the session than anything else.

kitty told me to bring my wife next time... and im really tempted to make a try if we end up in pattaya.

picture of the two ladies here:

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=951328&postcount=2865

PauloThai
11-08-09, 14:33
Finally made it to the den.. Devils Den.
Well, two hours was soon gone and we took a shower, i took some photos of the girls. Hi Dextro Sol,

Do (did) they allow action pictures at Devils Den?

Cheers!

Pita123
11-08-09, 21:52
Finally made it to the den.. Devils Den.

Great report Dextro Sol. Thank you!

Normad2020
11-09-09, 09:05
My friends and I will be in Pattaya and later Bangkok in early December 2009 and will want to party as much as we can. I read somewhere that there are certain "male erection gel" that could help us to keep partying.....

My questions to the members are:

(1) whether we can buy the said gel in Pattaya and if so, could anyone recommend to us some places near Soi 7 & 8 where we can buy the product.

(2) what brand is more effective?

Thanks for you help in advance.

Cheers
normad2020

Dveight
11-09-09, 11:38
My friends and I will be in Pattaya and later Bangkok in early December 2009 and will want to party as much as we can. I read somewhere that there are certain "male erection gel" that could help us to keep partying.....

My questions to the members are:

(1) whether we can buy the said gel in Pattaya and if so, could anyone recommend to us some places near Soi 7 & 8 where we can buy the product.

(2) what brand is more effective?

Thanks for you help in advance.

Cheers
normad2020There are several gels that desensitize you, they are all Benzocaine based so you have to be careful or you will end up with Benzocaine poisoning. Trojan also makes some condoms that come with the Gel already on the inside. These are better as they don't desensitize the girl as well. The drawback is that they reduce the feeling, quite substantially; you may even have trouble staying hard when using these gels. IMHO try Viagra of Cialis, they work much better. Plus they don't make it so the girls don't feel anything, cause there is nothing worse than a girl who is not into the it.

DVEight

Dveight
11-09-09, 11:40
Finally made it to the den.. Devils Den.

After Washing off Kitty asked if i wanted to be handcuffed and i approved. So she ran away and came back with cuffs and sexy outfit for themselves, including high boots. Then a new bbbj, new condow and i fucked Beer. After a while i told her i wanted to switch hole, so she got up on her knees and i started to penetrate her asshole slowly. After a while she relaxed and i could start fuck her faster... until i finally came for the second time.


http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=951328&postcount=2865Allright I am sold, Devils Den on my next trip for sure!

Dextro Sol
11-09-09, 11:47
Hi Dextro Sol,

Do (did) they allow action pictures at Devils Den?

Cheers!

Not the two girls i had.. but cant speak for the rest


Great report Dextro Sol. Thank you!

Thank you Pita

Dextro Sol
11-09-09, 11:53
My friends and I will be in Pattaya and later Bangkok in early December 2009 and will want to party as much as we can. I read somewhere that there are certain "male erection gel" that could help us to keep partying.....

My questions to the members are:

(1) whether we can buy the said gel in Pattaya and if so, could anyone recommend to us some places near Soi 7 & 8 where we can buy the product.

(2) what brand is more effective?

Thanks for you help in advance.

Cheers
normad2020

(1) Just look for a Pharmacy and you'll be able to buy it. I bought mine in bkk, and they cost 80 bath a piece

(2) I dont really know if there are any other brands then Kamagra... for the gel.. about tablets there are a few more brands, for example Viagra and Cialis

Globe Tracker
11-09-09, 12:26
Coming to Pattaya first coming weekend and stay for the week.. Looking forward to it. It will be my 10th trip, so I know where to go.

if anyone would like to join for a beer or two and share experiences let me know. I will check for reply's during the week.

GT

Mouse1
11-09-09, 18:02
Hi Dextro Sol,

Do (did) they allow action pictures at Devils Den?

Cheers!No, they don't.

Rocksoff
11-10-09, 06:07
(1) whether we can buy the said gel in Pattaya

Literally every pharmacy for 100 baht if you buy one. In Soi Buakaow I've gotten 80 baht when I buy several at once, have to ask though. In Soi 11 in Bangkok, I think it's the 1st pharmacy on the right, 60 baht.

Normad2020
11-10-09, 06:50
I do not have ED problem so is it okay that I take Viagra or others? I was hoping for some externally applied gel such as "Kamagra" or "ProSolutions" that will enable me to "get it up" more times to enjoy what is on offer in Pattaya and Bangkok.

Looking forward to your feedback.

Thanks & Cheers
normad2020



There are several gels that desensitize you, they are all Benzocaine based so you have to be careful or you will end up with Benzocaine poisoning. Trojan also makes some condoms that come with the Gel already on the inside. These are better as they don't desensitize the girl as well. The drawback is that they reduce the feeling, quite substantially; you may even have trouble staying hard when using these gels. IMHO try Viagra of Cialis, they work much better. Plus they don't make it so the girls don't feel anything, cause there is nothing worse than a girl who is not into the it.

DVEight

Normad2020
11-10-09, 06:55
To Rockoff and Dextro Sol, thanks for the feedback and the indicated selling price. I will look for "Kamagra" at the Pharmacy once I hit into Pattaya. Since there are 6 of us, I think we should be entitle to some discount on bulk purchase...hahahaha

Looking forward to participate in the Pattaya scene.....less than a month to go....

Cheers
normad2020

Daddy07
11-10-09, 07:01
I do not have ED problem so is it okay that I take Viagra or others? I was hoping for some externally applied gel such as "Kamagra" or "ProSolutions" that will enable me to "get it up" more times to enjoy what is on offer in Pattaya and Bangkok.

Looking forward to your feedback.

Thanks & Cheers
normad2020
Kamagra is not applied externally, but taken orally and begins to work more quickly than the tablets. I've never heard of an "externally applied gel" to get you up, but I'm no expert.

You do not need ED to enjoy these drugs, but if you do have it they will help.

Enjoy.

Normad2020
11-10-09, 07:16
Thanks Mate for correcting my oversight.

So you will recommend "Kamagra" over Viagra or others? Oral is find with me as I do not really want any delay cream as I do take a while to climax.....

Cheers
normad2020





Kamagra is not applied externally, but taken orally and begins to work more quickly than the tablets. I've never heard of an "externally applied gel" to get you up, but I'm no expert.

You do not need ED to enjoy these drugs, but if you do have it they will help.

Enjoy.

FreebieFan
11-10-09, 08:16
Kamagra is not applied externally, but taken orally and begins to work more quickly than the tablets. I've never heard of an "externally applied gel" to get you up, but I'm no expert.

You do not need ED to enjoy these drugs, but if you do have it they will help.

Enjoy.Had a prostate cancer and during the nerve recovery process after removal, doc gave me some tubes filled with a gel, that was injected into the uretha. As a kind of external viagra.

They didn't work really well. So went back to Viagra/Kamagra. Both work fine but with Kamagra being one tenth the price, no guesses for which one I use.

Mouse1
11-10-09, 08:34
I do not have ED problem so is it okay that I take Viagra or others? I was hoping for some externally applied gel such as "Kamagra" or "ProSolutions" that will enable me to "get it up" more times to enjoy what is on offer in Pattaya and Bangkok.

Looking forward to your feedback.

Thanks & Cheers
normad2020But don't expect miracles... I practically [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) blue when I am in Pattaya but there is still a physiological limit (for mere mortals - this doesn't apply to Tansak of course).

Member #3428
11-10-09, 08:54
Thanks Mate for correcting my oversight.

So you will recommend "Kamagra" over Viagra or others? Oral is find with me as I do not really want any delay cream as I do take a while to climax.....

Cheers
normad2020


Kamagra is VIAGRA it is the generic version and the same thing.

Member #3428
11-10-09, 08:56
But don't expect miracles... I practically [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) blue when I am in Pattaya but there is still a physiological limit (for mere mortals - this doesn't apply to Tansak of course).

Wow I'm off board, working in MNL for a while and I come back to this? Ok in 12 days I'll be in Thailand and we'll start making more little Tansak's for sure as the girls in makati are a little sore right now :D

Mouse1
11-10-09, 10:22
Kamagra is VIAGRA it is the generic version and the same thing.Kamagra = generic Viagra
Apcalis = generic cialis

Generic and proprietary are the same chemical, but the generic form is made without paying royalties to the inventor (Pfizer) so much cheaper. The cost of each generic pill is about 100 Bht, while the cost in India (where they are mostly made) is about 20 Bht equivalent.

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=930244&postcount=3123

To add to the above data, I recently bought a real viagra pill in Delhi and it cost £6 ie the same as in the UK, demonstrating how tightly Pfizer control the world-wide market.

Always buy from a reputable pharmacy, not from a guy in the street. Given the mark-up available on the generic drugs (80%?) there is no reason to provide chalk dust, but you never know...

Member #3428
11-10-09, 10:50
Given the mark-up available on the generic drugs (80%?) there is no reason to provide chalk dust, but you never know...

WAY OFF TOPIC of this thread so I apologize.... but.... having an interest in a pharmacy, I'll tell you that buying pills in India compared to landed costs are huge. The taxation and laws regarding generic medicines are a nightmare in some countries, again lobbyists in various countries by the medical industries set these up. The theory is that the profits are funneled into future medical break through and advancement in medicinal practices. If that's the case or not you could debate it forever.

The second issue is that there is reputable generic and then there is generic generic in India. You do NOT want the generic generic versions as they are almost identical copies / fakes of the generics in terms of packaging and looks but in reality their chemical content is so obscure it is scary.

To make most mongers feel better, most Pharmacies I've gone into in Thai are using reputable firms and Thai has a very large Pharmaceutical industry itself. Surprisingly many medicines made in Thai are cheaper then the ones made in Philippines and some are getting close (in price and quality) to the reputable Indian companies in my opinion and we are now using some Thai Pharmaceuticals.

The mark up appears to be high (80% how did you figure that one??? 400% mark up if selling at 80 baht right?) I agree, but there were also some major crack down on illegally imported generics recently in Thai.

Just ask your bell man where the local "Guava" go to buy pills. But people are spending how much on airfare and then on hotels and then on girls, they should not worry about a few days of jelly.

6 days x 60 baht (supposedly the mark up without taxation / shipping / bribes etc... 80 baht - 20 baht price) x 2 time a day = 720 baht

The folks who monger in Thailand are lucky for these costs IMHO and Pattaya is cheaper then in BKK usually for pharmaceuticals so if you are going to both stock up on your antibiotics and other med's in Pattaya to take home with you.

Chachi420
11-10-09, 11:49
Finally made it to the den.. Devils Den.

I had checked up their web site before, and had the name Kitty in my head. Didn't find her so I had to ask.. but i still didn't recognize her but she was a cutie anyway so my decision was done. Only problem was the other guy had chosen her too.. so we had to toss the coin and luckily I won. Went over to Kitty and asked her to pick the best as her partner.. Her choise was Beer. We went out and in next door and upstairs.

Picture of the two ladies here:

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=951328&postcount=2865Hi Dextro Sol,

I have just got back from my first trip to Pattaya, and also picked the same girls from DD.

Actually I picked Beer, and she chose Kitty.

I'll be sure to include my DD exprience in my Trip reports, once I recover from the 'jetlag'!

Mouse1
11-10-09, 13:28
The mark up appears to be high (80% how did you figure that one??? 400% mark up if selling at 80 baht right?)I know my pharmaceuticals but you're right, I can't do sums :(

Anyway, I always buy my drugs in India now, and get amazing prices for generic medicines. I have yet to find a drug that isn't sold somewhere (not that I have tried that hard), although as someone will soon point out, the concern might be in bringing them back to your home country.

D Cups
11-10-09, 15:43
I do not have ED problem so is it okay that I take Viagra or others? I was hoping for some externally applied gel such as "Kamagra" or "ProSolutions" that will enable me to "get it up" more times to enjoy what is on offer in Pattaya and Bangkok.

Looking forward to your feedback.

Thanks & Cheers
normad2020Yes, Nomad, the others are right. Recreational use of viagra/cialis and the foreign brands are ok. You might get slight headaches, an acidy stomach (take tums) and/or very slight vision impairment but these symptoms are temporary and normal (so I'm told) and well worth the affect of the mighty blue vitamin. It's also great to take one after you've had a few too many drinks. Alcohol does not seem to affect viagra. Happy hard-ons! :)

BTW if you see any big boobs in your travels kindly let us know!

Chachi420
11-10-09, 16:03
pattaya trip report

i have just retruned from my third trip to los, and first trip to pattaya.

firstly i would like to thank the bm's for all the information provided on this forum, it was a great help.

landed in bkk at 18.30, spent 45mins going through immigration and baggage reclaim. through to arrivals and turned right, walked down to exit 3 and thankfully found my driver (mr. t taxis) waiving my name in the air.

decent car, powerful air-con, got me to pattaya by 9.00pm. i had booked a night at walking street guesthouse (the owner johan kindly arranged the taxi for me). as it was after 6.00pm walking street was pedestrianised therefore the driver went through the back soi's and got me as close a possible. gave him 1000bt with 100tip, grabbed my bag and went looking for my hotel. followed the massive sign for lucifers, and as promised my hotel was directly opposite. i will give an accommodation review in the relevant section.

by the time i had checked in, showered and changed it was approaching 11:00 pm, so headed out onto walking street. i'm not much of an agogo fan, find them overpriced and full of 'princess' types. i popped into angelwitch and heavens had a couple of beers, checked out the talent, then headed for beach road.

as it was halloween, beach road was heaving with stalls and tourists, even at 1:00 am, but unfortunately not much in the way of girls. as it was approaching 02.30am i decided to head back to the hotel and sleep off the jetlag alone. stopped by a 7-11 for some beer and fags, on my way out i saw a girl walk past, dressed to kill. she was hardly 5ft tall in heels, had the cutest face and the shortest tightest hotpants. i stopped her and asked her the way to walking street, she replied by telling me she was also going to walking street, so we agreed to walk together. it didn't take long to persuade her to come back to my room.

once in the room i took a few pictures of her then we both jumped in the shower. washed and dried we hit the bed. she gave me a killer bbbj, taking it all the way deep into her throat. she even seemed to enjoy me pushing her head down and gagging her. i eventually shot my load whilst she was deep-throating which she swallowed like a champ.

had a beer and cig then for round two. she sucked me off till i was hard, then slipped on a condom. i fucked her tight pussy for a while in varying positions, then decided to take her ass. i didn't ask her, but began to rub my tip on her asshole. she responded well, pushing back on my knob. i fucked her ass for a while and ended up cumming on her face. she was with me for around 5 hrs. gave her 1000bt and sent her on her merry way.

day 2

moved to the liquid lounge on soi buakhao. danny had e-mailed me to confirm all the larger rroms were taken, but a small room was available, which i took.

this (small) room was twice the size of the room at the previous guesthouse. review will be posted in hotels section,

took a walk down soi 6 and got the screaming and yelling, but alas nothing took my fancy. ended up in queen vic for a couple a ciders and a sunday roast. went straight to bed and snored for several hours.

liquid lounge is on the corner of soi buakhao and lk metro, opp blu club. i could see the blu club pole dancing girls from my balcony, but more importantly i could see the devils den.

after a few beers in the room i decided to tackle the den. walking the 50yards from my room to the den proved to be impossible. i was quickly sidetracked by a girl in a bar opposite metro apartments (i think it was named redz bar). this girl (becky) was quite tall for a thai girl, wearing irressitable tight white jeans. i ended up staying with her for 2 days.

it was only after i had barfined her that i noticed her friend. she was hot. i wanted to do a switcharoo, but was quickly told by my girl that this would be very bad form. i told her fine, but will come back tomorrow for her friend. in the privacy of my room she requested i not barfine her friend, as it would prove arkward for her. being the gent i am, i decided to agree not to barfine her.(a decision i still regret).

day 3

spent the day doing a bar crawl watching cricket. spent the night with becky. uneventful day, very eventful night!

day 4

again spent the day doing some sightseeing, drinking and shopping. went back to the room and had what i thought was a quick nap. woke up and looked at my watch.11.30pm, what the fuck! devil's den closed at midnight, so quickly got washed and dressed. took the long way around to avoid becky's bar, no time for distractions! got to dd at 11.55. i asked the gaffer if i was ok for time, to which he replied "of course, we've been waiting for you all day".

there were plenty of girls in the line-up. i chose beer from the right and left her to pick a friend. she picked kitty from the left. grabbed my jd & coke and my two gals and off we went for two hours of heaven.

shower/srub/dry and bed. double bbbj, rimming, facesitting, cim. they performed a full-on lesbian session whilst i achieved superman's power of recovery. back to double bbbj, then straight into anal with beer. swapped condoms and fucked kitty on the ceiling mouned swing.

eventually came on both their faces. 2 hrs including drinks and tips = 5000bt. very satisfying.

i walked out refreshed, clutching my free t-shirt.

day 5

adhering to the old law of not crapping on your own doorstep, i had refused to barfine from the liquid lounge. however due to a cocktail of chang, sambuca, laziness and a throbbing hardon i finally sucummbed to the charms of the ll ladies. i spent my remaing 3 days with these ladies.

first night was with numwan who had a wonderful smile, a good fuck, but alas didn't suck cock. she must be the only girl in pattaya who does not smoke, and yes i barfined her!

day 6

numwan's auntie was a psuedo-mamasan in the bar. she had introduced me to numwan the night before, and tonight told me about her other neice, pet.

auntie informed me pet had only been here 1 week so could not speak english, however she did have a very sexy body with big wide eyes.

i barfined pet and took her upto my room. she was very willing but was obviously naive and inexperienced. we fucked twice before going to sleep. in the morning she wanted round 3, but neither of us had condoms. she insisted i do her bareback, which i politely declined as i ran to the shower to scrub my cock!

day 7

i had an early morning flight the following day, so decided to sleep throughout the day and stay awake all night. eventually woke up 7.00pm. went out for a few beers along soi diana and 2nd road. found a live band behind lk metropole which played decent rock music. made my way back to [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900) for 11.00pm and was followed in by an absolute monster. i understand that the girls in bj bars are never going to be stunners, but this one had the sort of face that could melt a diamond. i bought her a sympathy drink and downed my own drink in 3 swigs. i went back to living lounge and chilled in the bar. my two previous barfines both sat either side of me, each stroking a leg and giggling at my inane conversation. i bought them both drinks but confirmed i will not be barfining either. it was then that another girl caught my eye. i noticed her on my first night, but the never seemed to be available. it was now 2.00am and i was due to check out at 4.00am.

i told her straight that i had no time for small talk or drinks. i paid her barfine and we both ran upto my room. quick shower and straight to work.

i
she insisted on making me cum twice before i went, and proceeded to ride me like a rodeo bull. she kept her promise and drained me twice. my knees were still shaking as i descended the stairs to my awaiting taxi.

i love this town!

here a few pics:

the first few are of the beach road freelancer i met on the first night, including one of her shoes. i couldn't believe how tiny her feet were!

these are the only pics i took, as after this my camera died. it must have made a moral sacrifice!

the next pic is beer and kitty from devil's den. i have 'borrowed' this pic from dextro sol, who enjoyed a session with the same two girls. hope you don't mind mate.

the next pic is the ladies from living lounge taken from the website. the girl i barfined on the last night is holding the pool cue. numwan is standing over her left shoulder.

the fresh farm girl is not in the pic.

the last pic is my devil's den t-shirt. i can't think of an appropriate occasion for my new t-shirt, but i'll find something.

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The Scout
11-10-09, 20:32
Chachi420 - Nice freelancer, she looks like she's under 40kg.

Dextro Sol - Great DD report.

NicFrenchy
11-11-09, 02:07
But people are spending how much on airfare and then on hotels and then on girls, they should not worry about a few days of jelly.


Exactly! why go through all this trouble of risking your life on copy products just to save a few bucks?
I never was a fan of copies in the first place but for medicine? are you kidding? Not worth it at all no matter how much cheaper the pill is.

By the way, I'm fortunate to be young enough to pop 3 times a session without the need for these pills :D

NicFrenchy
11-11-09, 02:21
It was only after I had barfined her that I noticed her friend. She was hot. I wanted to do a switcharoo, but was quickly told by my girl that this would be very bad form. I told her fine, but will come back tomorrow for her friend. In the privacy of my room she requested I not barfine her friend, as it would prove arkward for her. Being the gent I am, I decided to agree not to barfine her.(A decision I still regret).

Very good report! Thumb's up.

Look, it's not awkward at all for you to switch girls... they try to play this card on you but you don't really have to follow it. And not taking her friend has nothing gentleman-esque about it.
Just tell her to call her friend and arrange a threesome, if she says no, then go to the friend directly and barfine her.
You are on holidays! it's your money! don't let the girls dictate your moves.

Of course, being nice all the way, also helps to make your encounter more enjoyable.

Nice report ;)

Member #3428
11-11-09, 04:06
By the way, I'm fortunate to be young enough to pop 3 times a session without the need for these pills :D

Yup, the good thing about being in SEA often is that I know girls who are better then blue or yellow pills (real or generic). Doesn't matter if I want it up or not, if the girls want it up they get it up all the way to completion....

Natural is always much better then artificial. Exercise, fitness, healthy living, lots of repetitive sex to keep the plumbing functioning on a continual basis etc...

Even for us old guys Nic ;)

Normad2020
11-11-09, 04:13
Thanks for the advise and I will surely informed my other friends about this and we will get some the moment we hit Pattaya!!!!!!

I will definitely let the forum know if I managed to track down reasonably young (18-25yo) big boobs girls. I am a sucker for big boobs (better still if they are natural) and so that is usually my first choice...hehehehe

After reading the forum my plan for my friends and I will be to keep the schedule loose so that we will not limit ourselves to some timetable in the event we find a good place with nice girls (not necessary Walking Street). We will do the mandatory "tour" of Beach Rd, Walking Street, Soi 6, 7 & 8 (any other suggestions) in the first two days then settle down to where we believe we can have the most fun. What do you think of that proposal?

Cheers
normad2020





Yes, Nomad, the others are right. Recreational use of viagra/cialis and the foreign brands are ok. You might get slight headaches, an acidy stomach (take tums) and/or very slight vision impairment but these symptoms are temporary and normal (so I'm told) and well worth the affect of the mighty blue vitamin. It's also great to take one after you've had a few too many drinks. Alcohol does not seem to affect viagra. Happy hard-ons! :)

BTW if you see any big boobs in your travels kindly let us know!

Normad2020
11-11-09, 04:26
Thanks mate. So "Kamagra" it is.... BTW what is the average selling price in Pattaya. It is just for my comparison so that the pharmacy does not over-charged me...

Cheers
normad2020




Kamagra is VIAGRA it is the generic version and the same thing.

Normad2020
11-11-09, 04:29
Cheers Mate...after all we are only human except for Tansak who is a super human when it comes to sex.....hahahahaha

Cheers
normad2020



But don't expect miracles... I practically [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) blue when I am in Pattaya but there is still a physiological limit (for mere mortals - this doesn't apply to Tansak of course).

Anil Kapoor
11-11-09, 04:35
i'm new here in pattaya, not a good report poster, trying to share my trip report here. tried only beach road. not went anywhere else. looks like pattaya girls are made only for white men or for american. not for indian. most of the old man having young girl with him and i'm finding a hard-time to get a young gal for me. some rejected bcoz they don't like indian.

day 1: found this girl for 2500 bhat lt. she said she is 18. (but never showed her id to me) i took her hotel at 7 pm or so. she took 1500 as she got nacked in hotel, i tried to pock. but my bro was not ready. so i said her lets have dinner then come back so went to have dinner, after dinner she said have to go for [CodeWord134] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134)". then she left me, never showed up. what the fuck! anyone else faced this shit?

day 2: very bad day for me. i was keep finding girl on beach road, walking street. no young girl found, only old lady watching me. but i said them, "look at me, i'm young and want young slim." found one later, but she rejected bcoz i'm indian and don't like to go. looks like these girl enjoy more with old men smile. gif found another later, she never had problem, but she is not ready for lt, she is made for st. she was good. but i was not looking for st. after searching from 5pm to 8:45pm i got upset, i'm about to leave alone back to hotel, suddenly this young looking slim girl just came. what! she was slim like hell. and under 5 feet may b. she said she is 24. this girl found and was ready for lt 1500. this time i had dinner first, then went to hotel. she was with me until morning. she said we both are small small. same same. sometime i never understand what she said to me. sometime she never understand what i says to her. however, had good time with her. she liked me a lot and never took money first. next morning she took, kissed, went.

2 days story ends.

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Member #3428
11-11-09, 05:25
Thanks mate. So "Kamagra" it is.... BTW what is the average selling price in Pattaya. It is just for my comparison so that the pharmacy does not over-charged me...

Cheers
normad2020

I should let others report but I'm told 80 baht is what a local ExPat in Pattaya pays for a satchel of jelly V....

But... he might know the cheapest source, again you are paying how much for the trip / girl etc... you are going to quibble over 20 baht difference if they ask for 100 baht?

I'd go for 80 baht but hell mate if they ask for 100 why fight it?

NicFrenchy
11-11-09, 06:19
Natural is always much better then artificial. Exercise, fitness, healthy living, lots of repetitive sex to keep the plumbing functioning on a continual basis etc...

Even for us old guys Nic ;)

Healthy living is a difficult topic, My colleague's idea of healthy living is a good pack of cigarettes a day, beer and pizzas or burgers.
Granted, he walks 3 meters behind his fat stomach, but if you ask him, he lives a healthy life (apparently fucks like a rabbit too) :D

Member #3428
11-11-09, 06:59
Healthy living is a difficult topic, My colleague's idea of healthy living is a good pack of cigarettes a day, beer and pizzas or burgers.
Granted, he walks 3 meters behind his fat stomach, but if you ask him, he lives a healthy life (apparently fucks like a rabbit too) :D

Yeah well add 46 kg to me, double the cig's a day, take out the beer but put in a half a bottle of 151 rum every day and that was my style of life before. And I was still the most handsum man in SEA :D That's why I love it so much and trust every word out of a Asian Girls Mouth.

Humping with an extra 46 kg strapped to your ass and belly for a while and no lung capacity I guess sure does train you up for Rabbitology when you do get in shape :D

Wandere
11-11-09, 07:17
An excellent report with graphic gory details,keep it up!


Pattaya Trip Report

I have just retruned from my third trip to LOS, and first trip to Pattaya.

Normad2020
11-11-09, 09:07
My apology for asking an arse of a question.....

Cheers Mate




I should let others report but I'm told 80 baht is what a local ExPat in Pattaya pays for a satchel of jelly V....

But... he might know the cheapest source, again you are paying how much for the trip / girl etc... you are going to quibble over 20 baht difference if they ask for 100 baht?

I'd go for 80 baht but hell mate if they ask for 100 why fight it?

Marteau
11-11-09, 09:20
Thanks mate. So "Kamagra" it is.... BTW what is the average selling price in Pattaya. It is just for my comparison so that the pharmacy does not over-charged me...

Cheers
normad2020

U can have it much cheaper if u buy a full box of it.
50 jelly for 2k !!

The Scout
11-11-09, 09:45
day 1: found this girl for 2500 bhat lt. she said she is 18. (but never showed her id to me) i took her hotel at 7 pm or so. she took 1500 as she got nacked in hotel, i tried to pock. but my bro was not ready. so i said her lets have dinner then come back so went to have dinner, after dinner she said have to go for [CodeWord134] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134)". then she left me, never showed up. what the fuck! anyone else faced this shit?does this means you paid her before and she ran with the baht?

Normad2020
11-11-09, 09:52
Since there are 6 of us and we need to do Pattaya and Bangkok for 2 weeks that might work out fine. Where is the place?

Cheers
normad2020




U can have it much cheaper if u buy a full box of it.
50 jelly for 2k !!

Opebo
11-11-09, 10:08
U can have it much cheaper if u buy a full box of it.
50 jelly for 2k !!

Please be careful carrying large quantities of Kamagra or Viagra around with you - there have been stories on this forum of gentlemen being shaken down by the police for large bribes when found with these substances in their baggage.

I never buy more then 10 sachets at a time (700 baht), and I carry it along with miscellaneous dispensable items such as flip-flops or so forth in a shopping bag. By thus keeping these items separate from my main bag I have the chance to either not collect this extra bag or casually discard it if I see any police stopping people at bus stations, etc.

Member #3428
11-11-09, 10:17
Please be careful carrying large quantities of Kamagra or Viagra around with you - there have been stories on this forum of gentlemen being shaken down by the police for large bribes when found with these substances in their baggage.

Opebo... wasn't that about Valium? Last reports I understood was that it is legal for Kamagra and Vit C sale and useage and any shake down are for folks that are not aware it is legal. What is ILLEGAL is bringing INTO the country generics of Vit V and C in large(r) volume.

Rocksoff
11-11-09, 11:39
I never buy more then 10 sachets at a time (700 baht)

I went by the pharmacy next to the Villa Market on Soi 11 last night. Asked how much. 80 baht. Oh but last time it was 60 baht. OK 60 baht. 5 please. Put down a 500 baht note. No change. No change? Had to ask him to work out 5*60 on his calculator twice before I got change. Ah well, it was around midnight, I guess it was a long day.

Marteau
11-11-09, 12:02
Since there are 6 of us and we need to do Pattaya and Bangkok for 2 weeks that might work out fine. Where is the place?

Cheers
normad2020

The pharmacy near Tim's Bar 2nd road.

Marteau
11-11-09, 12:13
Please be careful carrying large quantities of Kamagra or Viagra around with you - there have been stories on this forum of gentlemen being shaken down by the police for large bribes when found with these substances in their baggage.

I never buy more then 10 sachets at a time (700 baht), and I carry it along with miscellaneous dispensable items such as flip-flops or so forth in a shopping bag. By thus keeping these items separate from my main bag I have the chance to either not collect this extra bag or casually discard it if I see any police stopping people at bus stations, etc.

The last time i brought back home 50 jelly and 30 viagra pack...
U have to be very unlucky to be catch by thai police..but i know there's some case..mainly in bus station.(if we r talking about the same case?)
In BKK Airport they never check ur bag when u leave the country(at least with me) and back home they also never check my bag...
If u bring back a raisonnable quantity it shouldn't be a problem..but what's a raisonnable quantity. ?..that's the question

Member #3428
11-11-09, 12:31
The last time i brought back home 50 jelly and 30 viagra pack...
U have to be very unlucky to be catch by thai police..but i know there's some case..mainly in bus station.(if we r talking about the same case?)
In BKK Airport they never check ur bag when u leave the country(at least with me) and back home they also never check my bag...
If u bring back a raisonnable quantity it shouldn't be a problem..but what's a raisonnable quantity. ?..that's the question

The case on ISG was about Valium, not Viagra. Leaving the country the Thai's don't care at all as I go out with a suitcase of drugs.

Anyone bringing it or mailing generics INTO the country they can nail you.

Your own home country and any transit points would be the ones to issue any hassles to you on exit.

Yukon62
11-11-09, 19:50
Go to pharmacy 2nd Road / Soi 15 ( about 50m from 2nd Road, left side). If you buy a package of 50, you get them for 40 Bath each, total damage 2.000 Bath.

Jager
11-12-09, 01:24
You are quite right. In case of a robbary I would lose alot, but on the other hand side I still have credit cards, so I still would be able to go to ATM's.
But, since I travel alot and never lost something, nor get robbed (except in Brazil), I got a little careless. And yes 10.000 is that much money, since I lost even more with stocks.;-)

Simple question: what does this post has to do with providing useful information for each other regarding girls in Pattaya????

jager

Purecuntry
11-12-09, 02:26
boofergentlemen (and the few ladies out there),

i have finally entered the promised land. wait until your heart stops? why the hell would we do that? pattaya, bangkok. either this is a cruel test or a blessed reward. i haven't written many reports, as i tend to get long-[fingered], and most of what i have to say has already been written by the longer-toothed of you. i am writing this mainly to any first timers like myself or anyone undecided on the mongering career. no need for any commentary, if you don't like it, just let it die along with the other old posts.

first of all, what the fuck would anyone even need viagra for here? even if you don't prefer asians as i do, you can't help but to feel the effect of all of the "local produce". if your problem is medical, try cialis, lasts longer, doesn't "blue" your vision, and is a better deal in $/hr.

secondly, make sure that when you come here to monger you are absolutely, positively, 100% completely incapable of falling in love, or are willing to deal with the consequences.

i have traveled the world in 2 years, 6 continents, 52 countries, 230 or so international cities. isg has been very helpful to me, so i paid for the membership. i have tried south american, european, african, and asian, and found little basic difference between them, with the exception of a very lovely thai at the bikini bar on lessingstrasse in bremerhaven, germany.

my , if i had only known, all those normal "personal" trips to lima, and the one decent one to pi; cancel!

my first night through bangkok, i went for the "soapy" massage, can't remember where for the life of me however; i picked the youngest, cutest, most non-professional looking thick-thighed princess out of the fishbowl, and ended up $200 in the hole at 6pm the next day. that includes the 2 hour, 2500 baht massage (1 pop), all of our drinks, tips, taxis in and through cowboy and nana soi, the boots disco (recommend it), to and from hotel, and 3 meals. try that in any other country without getting a horrible disease or food poisoning.

after a week of work, i came here to pattaya, got an nice hotel, nirvana couture, for 800 baht/night, one block from the beach in jomtien. can't complain about a thing here. receptionist is even a knockout. got straight to drinking here locally, and found jomtien pretty much low-content. jumped a? taxi-truck? to pattaya for 10 baht and got off in paradise. let me sum it up with 2 words. sensory overload. women, girls, ladies (and if you like, lady boys), beer, wine, whiskey, food, lights, music, videos, traffic, pedestrians, animals, city, beach, i seriously felt like passing out from the shock. and i hadn't even seen walking street yet. i assume that "br" or "beach road" is the wide sidewalk along the beach in north pattaya where the sws all congregate, since that is what i passed by shortly before having to stop at a bar and further desensitize myself with another 3 jack and cokes. really couldn't walk around like that. erase what you may picture as a sw from your mind and replace her with lucy liu. multiply by 70 and add 15 off-prime girls, 10 oldies, and 5 lady-boys, there is 100%. every 1000 feet.

bars, limitless; mama-san and 2 of her older friends, in almost every one; at least 50% cute young girls to offset them. where do they all come from?

that factory must be doing 200% capacity, i could never have imagined such a high % of 7-10 girls in such a small city.

conversational english does seem to be hit or miss, so i meandered into my preferred style, here they are called go-go bars. not for the faint-of-heart.

only thing more impressive than so many beautiful asian girls is seeing them almost naked or better. appearances range from hot to pepper spray. i highly recommend finding one of the many locations with a glass-floored 2nd level and the stripper pole mounted there. sit underneath. that's all.

hard to believe, the "lady's drink" was less than mine. i pay 120 baht for a j&c, min. 80 at a street bar, theirs was only 100. mama-san and the tub-girls will ask you for one also, if you're not an pain in the ass and don't touch or stare, why bother? so here's where my mongering days end. down the pole slides my lady, what i thought was dejavu'. exactly, to the letter, the woman i had always dreamed about. 31; hair, eyes, face, skin, body. exact.

needless to say i happily paid the 600 baht bar fine, and agreed to her 2000 baht "long-time" price (assumed to be until noon of the following day). the night was exceptional, disregarding the slip-up when i attempted a backdoor intrusion. not welcome, but graciously forgiven.

the story ends there, gents, as i am retiring my condoms and lube and camera. we are on night 3 and i have my "miya". she is going to drive me out to phuket in her truck to see her plantation and family on friday.

i can imagine that one of you may have passed time with her, that matters not. i have heard the 3-day warning speech, and do not care.

when a woman pays her own 20000 baht contract in front of you and begins paying for your meals, pay attention.

ps. the lovemaking is the best i've ever had in 16 years of activity. i guess it is different when she really does love you. f you to all of my xs.

thanks guys. good luck, leave some food for buddha.

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Anil Kapoor
11-12-09, 03:07
Does this means you paid her before and she ran with the baht?Yes, thats the mistake I have done. after that I learned lesson.

Wendella
11-12-09, 06:46
Simple question: what does this post has to do with providing useful information for each other regarding girls in Pattaya????

jager

Dude, it's chilly time... Yeah ok discussion strays a bit sometimes, if you look through the thread you see it happens, but things have a way of snapping back to the main topic eventually. Trust me people don't come here looking to discuss ATM's. DG69's contributed more than his share on the topic you most care about. If talk here isn't enough, there's also other places like this to go check out... can only talk about those in PM (I know a few but I'm sure other more senior guys here know of more -- a tip: PM some and ask) But if anything there's TOO MUCH discussion of Pattaya ladies out there to be read. Too much as in, no one can possibly read it all and keep up. Anyway, I can appreciate your sentiments: I feel that way myself sometimes. Even recently posted a sarcastic joke post about the ATM obsession (over on Bangkok).

Fon Tok
11-12-09, 07:09
...The story ends there, gents, as I am retiring my condoms and lube and camera. We are on night 3 and I have my "miya". She is going to drive me out to Phuket in HER truck to see HER plantation and family on Friday...PS. The lovemaking is the best I've ever had in 16 years of activity. I guess it is different when she really does love you. F you to all of my Xs. Thanks guys. Good luck, leave some food for Buddha.Let's see? Three nights in Pattaya and you found your new mia, a (long) drive to Phuket to meet the family, and "she really loves me."

That's it -- Thailand for a hansum man-- it's all just that easy! Come one, cum all!

You better leave more than food for Buddha...leave your wallet, your belt and your watch! ;)

Member #2041
11-12-09, 07:26
Let's see? Three nights in Pattaya and you found your new mia, a (long) drive to Phuket to meet the family, and "she really loves me."

That's it -- Thailand for a hansum man-- it's all just that easy! Come one, cum all!

You better leave more than food for Buddha...leave your wallet, your belt and your watch! ;)
8 posts and 3 days and Purecuntry has found his true love. How many Buffalo do you suspect he'll be buying for the plantation?

The Scout
11-12-09, 08:17
First of all, What the fuck would ANYONE even need Viagra for here? Even if you don't prefer asians as I do, you can't help but to feel the effect of all of the "local produce". If your problem is medical, try Cialis, lasts longer, doesn't "blue" your vision, and is a better deal in $/hr.

Secondly, make sure that when you come here TO MONGER you are absolutely, positively, 100% completely incapable of falling in love, or are willing to deal with the consequences.I view it as Viagra being the "guns a blazin" the and Cialis is the "weekend warrior". Also, you say incapable of falling in love... haha awesome. Good report!

Daddy07
11-12-09, 09:39
...we are on night 3 and i have my "miya". she is going to drive me out to phuket in her truck to see her plantation and family on friday.

i can imagine that one of you may have passed time with her, that matters not. i have heard the 3-day warning speech, and do not care.

when a woman pays her own 20000 baht contract in front of you and begins paying for your meals, pay attention.

ps. the lovemaking is the best i've ever had in 16 years of activity. i guess it is different when she really does love you...
another one bites the dust! :d

chock dee to you both.

Daddy07
11-12-09, 12:57
These statists never get it right, but at least maybe they know enough to refrain from killing the golden goose.

http://www.pattayadailynews.com/shownews.php?IDNEWS=0000011013

Member #3428
11-12-09, 13:17
These statists never get it right, but at least maybe they know enough to refrain from killing the golden goose.

http://www.pattayadailynews.com/shownews.php?IDNEWS=0000011013

I liked this quote....


despite what surveys report about a sizeable amount of tourists saying that they are here for religious or cultural reasons.

You mean mongering is not cultural or religious?

I seem to pray and thank the lord more while I'm shagging then when I'm not shagging. I swear I've had more close encounters with near death and holiness while with a nice young lady then any other place.

And I know, and have heard shouts, by many mongers that are Thanking God / Lord / whatever etc... while shagging :D

Daddy07
11-12-09, 13:59
...I seem to pray and thank the lord more while I'm shagging then when I'm not shagging. I swear I've had more close encounters with near death and holiness while with a nice young lady then any other place.

And I know, and have heard shouts, by many mongers that are Thanking God / Lord / whatever etc... while shagging :D
The monk of mongering speaketh ...

Member #2041
11-12-09, 17:21
What could be more cultural than to establish close personal interactions with the local populace?

Opebo
11-12-09, 19:07
Really we're experiencing a wonderful respite - anyone who remembers the apocalyptic situation a couple of years ago will tell you its much better now. For how long who can say?

But I did hear some interesting news from some of the ladies on my last visit: The police have broadened the scope of their actions to include staking out some short time hotels. Particularly, the one on Second Road opposite Soi 10. I myself witnessed several fat thugs sitting in front of this place, wearing plainclothes. Girls told me that they have to be careful, but that so far PS has not been molested.

I did also notice that there are far fewer of those imitation ladies on the Beach. Presumably something has been done to them.

Papae Noel
11-12-09, 19:43
haven't been yet, but now you have me interested in a visit (only been to eden in bangkok).

beer must be the one dressed in black?


finally made it to the den.. devils den.

at the moment my wife and i are staying in koh samed. two days ago i told her my mate in rayong had asked me over for a motorbike ride and to watch fotball on tv... istead i booked a taxi for pattaya and devils den. the driver had a hard time to find soi lk metro, but finally we found it. i went past [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900) on my way there , rounded the corner and saw the sign. went in at the same time as a younger guy, maybe 30 and we sat down at the bar. cerberus came over and asked if we knew what place this was... i said i did, but the other guy wanted to know more. cerberus told the whole story and ended with the words... dont forget about the yellow line, right is right and left is wrong. then he called for the ladies to line up.

i had checked up their web site before, and had the name kitty in my head. didn't find her so i had to ask.. but i still didn't recognize her but she was a cutie anyway so my decision was done. only problem was the other guy had chosen her too.. so we had to toss the coin and luckily i won. went over to kitty and asked her to pick the best as her partner.. her choise was beer. we went out and in next door and upstairs.

into the room and the girls started to undress right away, and so did i. and then the weirdest two hours of my life started...

after shower and drying kitty started a bbbj and i had beer sat on my chest so i could lick her. then on with condom and fuck kitty cowgirl.. after that condom of and i came in kittys mouth. after i was drained, kitty came up and kissed me... cumsharing with me.. so, now i know how my sperm tastes...

after washing off kitty asked if i wanted to be handcuffed and i approved. so she ran away and came back with cuffs and sexy outfit for themselves, including high boots. then a new bbbj, new condow and i fucked beer. after a while i told her i wanted to switch hole, so she got up on her knees and i started to penetrate her asshole slowly. after a while she relaxed and i could start fuck her faster... until i finally came for the second time.

off with their sexy outfit and i asked the girls to play while i watched. kitty started to lick out beers pussy and after that she took on a strap on and started to fuck beer missionary. i played with both of them and after a while kitty said i could put on a condom and fuck her doggy while she was fucking beer with the strap on. i did and i think this was one of my lifes biggest moments... so after a while a came a third time.. nothing that has happened for me in many years, if ever...

during the whole act kitty was feeding me beer from her mouth.. also that pretty weird.

well, two hours was soon gone and we took a shower, i took some photos of the girls. down to the bar again and i noticed that kitty, a woman of 35 with tree kids, (without any trace) smiled at her boss, i guess at least she and i had a good time, hard to tell about beer, she seemed more concerned about eye make up during the session than anything else.

kitty told me to bring my wife next time... and im really tempted to make a try if we end up in pattaya.

picture of the two ladies here:

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=951328&postcount=2865

Normad2020
11-13-09, 04:15
Cheers Mate. Will post my FRs. Also enjoy your trip in March 2010.

normad2020




That sounds like a very good plan, Nomad. I will do something very similar in March 2010.

Normad2020
11-13-09, 04:20
Much obliged Mate for the information.

BTW anything nice about Tim's Bar since I will be in the neighborhood (so to say) ;-)

Cheers
normad2020



The pharmacy near Tim's Bar 2nd road.

Normad2020
11-13-09, 04:28
Thanks Mate. Your concern is noted with gratitude. As there are six of us, so my other 5 friends will have 8 caps each whilst I will have 10 caps....;-)

If we were to use 4 caps each in Pattaya and Bangkok respectively, we will most probably "donate" the last two caps to the first monger we met on check-out from Citadines in Bangkok and let him enjoy his stay a little better...hahahaha

Cheers
normad2020





Please be careful carrying large quantities of Kamagra or Viagra around with you - there have been stories on this forum of gentlemen being shaken down by the police for large bribes when found with these substances in their baggage.

I never buy more then 10 sachets at a time (700 baht), and I carry it along with miscellaneous dispensable items such as flip-flops or so forth in a shopping bag. By thus keeping these items separate from my main bag I have the chance to either not collect this extra bag or casually discard it if I see any police stopping people at bus stations, etc.

Forever69
11-13-09, 11:11
U can have it much cheaper if u buy a full box of it.
50 jelly for 2k !!That is great,could you be a bit more specific,as to where and how?

RedMercury
11-13-09, 20:19
Guys need help.

We are in a group of 5 traveling to Pattaya next week! what are the best places to pickup nice and clean chick there! what is the kind a price for these chicks?

Is it safe to get them back to the hotel for a ST or do they have an Incall?

Aruncuckoo
11-13-09, 20:21
I'm new here in Pattaya, Not a good report poster, Trying to share my Trip report here. Tried only beach road. Not went anywhere else. Looks like Pattaya girls are made only for white men or for American. Not for Indian.Hi Anil,

When where you there in pattaya? The fact that you got two girls of your expectation for LT for your 2 days stay is not bad at all. Don't compare our self with the westerner, lots of factors involved in this. Indians all over have a bad reputation, guys who traveled before us may be responsible for this, who knows. Unlike westerner, no young looking girl is going to pull you in to the room, we have to work it out. Girls are plenty in pattaya, there is scope for every one. Try extending your scope to walking street and other bars in Beach road. As reported in this forum, beach road scene is not favorable in the past 2 months, that might be the case for you to land in this position. Reach out to the girl and be nice to them, don't over pay, agree to pay what the others in this forum specify. No one expect you to pay in advance, always pay after the deed is done. Refer the below link by BornLoser, an excellent report for indians

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=830558&postcount=583

Arun

Ken Orvik
11-14-09, 01:27
Unfortunatly thais are the worst raciststs in at least asia. They actually only like themselves, and chinese people.
I actually dont think they like western people any more than Indian people, but Indian people have a bad reputation about hygiene, smell bad, change of clothes, take shower and so on. I have no idea how most indian people are in todays world, but I know that Thai people care a lot about hygiene.
I dont blame them. If your job is to have sex with people every day, and maybe many times a day, then I understand that the job will be a lot more enjoyable if you meet people who are clean and smell good.

Just my point of view.



Hi Anil,

When where you there in pattaya? The fact that you got two girls of your expectation for LT for your 2 days stay is not bad at all. Don't compare our self with the westerner, lots of factors involved in this. Indians all over have a bad reputation, guys who traveled before us may be responsible for this, who knows. Unlike westerner, no young looking girl is going to pull you in to the room, we have to work it out. Girls are plenty in pattaya, there is scope for every one. Try extending your scope to walking street and other bars in Beach road. As reported in this forum, beach road scene is not favorable in the past 2 months, that might be the case for you to land in this position. Reach out to the girl and be nice to them, don't over pay, agree to pay what the others in this forum specify. No one expect you to pay in advance, always pay after the deed is done. Refer the below link by BornLoser, an excellent report for indians

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=830558&postcount=583

Arun

Ken Orvik
11-14-09, 01:38
Nice and clean chicks?
You can make sure that all the women you meet are as clean as you and mostly cleaner. But that doesnt mean that they are safe for sex.
You have to understand that Pattaya is probably the worlds sex capitol, and that you have to be careful.

So, for all of you. Always use condoms in Thailand. Every time.
Else there is lovely girls all over Pattaya. Doesnt matter where you go.
If you not booked hotel yet? I would recomend www.scandibar.com
They dont ask for deposit or anything. I know the manager of that site, and he is very OK
I would recomend you to book on Sandy Spring hotel in soi 13.
You will have a blast!!!!

Take care and have a very nice trip.

Ken.




Guys need help.

We are in a group of 5 traveling to Pattaya next week! what are the best places to pickup nice and clean chick there! what is the kind a price for these chicks?

Is it safe to get them back to the hotel for a ST or do they have an Incall?

RedMercury
11-14-09, 03:07
Nice and clean chicks?

You can make sure that all the women you meet are as clean as you and mostly cleanerThank you Ken, the reason i said that was, while i was looking up the pictures, the chicks where dirty looking, hence thought it would be a good idea to seek help from the forum! Condom, ofcourse! that goes without saying!

Aruncuckoo
11-14-09, 09:12
but Indian people have a bad reputation about hygiene, smell bad, change of clothes, take shower and so on. I have no idea how most indian people are in todays world,

Just my point of view.Thanks Ken, your point should be well taken by any indian who travel. My assumption is only a certain class of indians have the potential to spend for air travel, so i think they are hygenic. On thing what i need to know is when people say indian is it like people specifically from india or since we are alike the refer any one from the subcontinent like India, Srilanka, Pakistan, Bangladesh etc.

Arun

ThaiLearner
11-14-09, 13:26
Guys need help.

We are in a group of 5 traveling to Pattaya next week! what are the best places to pickup nice and clean chick there! what is the kind a price for these chicks?

Is it safe to get them back to the hotel for a ST or do they have an Incall?

There are places all of the place they you can get clean decent birds.

For a Free lancer or Bar girl 500short time or 1000 longtime

Bar girl bar fine can be from 200-500.

Go Go girls 1000 short time or 2000long time approx

Go Go bar fines 500-1000.

Yes it is safe to take a girl back (well I have never had any problems) and some go gos do offer short time rooms or you can go to a short time hotel.

Have you booked your hotel if so make sure it is girl friendly with no joiner fee. Some hotels charge 500+ per girl you back.

Monopoly
11-14-09, 15:21
Guys,

Can anyone give an update on how it is on the ground now? Are there many young pretty ladies in the go-go's? How are the beer-bars around Sois 7/8/2?

How about the LK Metro area and Naklua? What about the soapy's?

Just trying to gauge how the atmosphere is now? Does it feel like "high season" or "low season", etc.

Thanks!

Cadjan
11-14-09, 16:46
Had 3 nights in Bangkok, first went out to Nana which had a few punters but seemed pretty quiet. Thought I'd check out the Angelwitch vs Spankys debate.

Was very disappointed with Angelwitch, seems most of the ladys have a lot of baby-damage with c-sections and stretch marks. After a couple there went to Spankys which was much better but still not great. The girls that dance above your head whilst hanging onto the chains off the ceilings are pretty cool though. And smacking the chicks with the foam things. But all in all both didn't live up to their hype.

So made my way downstairs to Pretty Lady which had heaps of young, hot girls up for a good time and more than willing to show off what they didn't have on under their skirts. Mamasan was a good laugh too. Definite winner over the other 2 for me, YMMV.

Chachi420
11-14-09, 19:51
Guys,

Can anyone give an update on how it is on the ground now? Are there many young pretty ladies in the go-go's? How are the beer-bars around Sois 7/8/2?

How about the LK Metro area and Naklua? What about the soapy's?

Just trying to gauge how the atmosphere is now? Does it feel like "high season" or "low season", etc.

Thanks!

Hi Monopoly

I got back from Pattaya this week. I stayed on LK Metro for a few days and can report that the area was full of lovely ladies.
This was my first visit, so i have no frame of reference regarding high season/low season. I had plenty of fun, as apparently so did the many other people i met out there.

Beach rd was quite dry, but this was probably due to the festivities and all the stalls.

Soi 6 was as sleazy and captivating as i had hoped.

Soldierb11
11-14-09, 22:34
boofergentlemen (and the few ladies out there),

the story ends there, gents, as i am retiring my condoms and lube and camera. we are on night 3 and i have my "miya". she is going to drive me out to phuket in her truck to see her plantation and family on friday.

i can imagine that one of you may have passed time with her, that matters not. i have heard the 3-day warning speech, and do not care.

when a woman pays her own 20000 baht contract in front of you and begins paying for your meals, pay attention.

ps. the lovemaking is the best i've ever had in 16 years of activity. i guess it is different when she really does love you. f you to all of my xs.

thanks guys. good luck, leave some food for buddha.

editor's note: i would suggest that the author or another forum member consider posting a link to this report in the reports of distinction thread. please click here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php) for more information.great story.

congrats on finding your girl and good luck.

Jeff46
11-15-09, 06:05
Thanks Ken, your point should be well taken by any indian who travel. My assumption is only a certain class of indians have the potential to spend for air travel, so i think they are hygenic. On thing what i need to know is when people say indian is it like people specifically from india or since we are alike the refer any one from the subcontinent like India, Srilanka, Pakistan, Bangladesh etc.

ArunThai people do not like dark skin people. Then thais says they don't like indian smell. Thats come from the early days indians traveling to Thailand. Mainly the woman wearing theier traditional cloths. Then as traditional culture they have theier special powder spraid over her body. This smell of this powder thai do not like. Finaly cames the hoteliers complaining indians wearing theier cloth while in swimmingpool. In the bathroom all this powder went in the water and all over the room. The rooms once this indians used went constantly out of order. Many hotelier after the first experience have no more accept indians wearing traditional cloths or simply closed hotel for the indian market. So all this ressentiments nowadays are still on. Even for indians tourist dressing western styl cloths nowadays thais think they smell.

So for Pakistan bang Sri Lanka its the skin and thais put them in the same basket as indians.

I am a ex hotelier trust me this is the main reason. but why they don t like dark skin people this I don't know!

Wandere
11-16-09, 08:46
Thai people do not like dark skin people. Then thais says they don't like indian smell. Thats come from the early days indians traveling.

So for Pakistan bang Sri Lanka its the skin and thais put them in the same basket as indians.

I am a ex hotelier trust me this is the main reason. but why they don t like dark skin people this I don't know!I am an Indian and have been travelling extensively to Europe,USA, Australia, Japan, Thailand, Singapore, Hongkong etc.

I am not talking as an isolated incident but by and large a bias against Indians do exist.

I have been a mongerer,but even when I am in a suit with tie,staying upmarket hotel or visiting upmarket restaurant,there are scores of events which I can reprt,but then this is not the forum.

I am not contesting but i do not know of special powder spray etc.

Some of our bretheren,whether staying in a country or visiting,do not follow local customs,bargain,at times to a point of pain,do not live or do not carry themselves well,and do not practise basic courtesies and do not follow simple hygeine is true.

Few years ago I sent some engineers for a training course to UK,and instructor called to say the other trainees had objected because our engineer was smelling.

As regards Thais are concerned my assesement of situation is the "firangs" are seen to be reckless spenders and Indians are percieved to be spendthrifts and there is a history, hence we all get branded.

I have faced discrimination but having said people whom I got to know at business and even hoteliers or regular cabbies and restaurants, well even WGs have also behaved well, but after a while.

One more element,with the rise of Indian international travelling and spending power, the attitudes against India is changing, I went to a leading UK store in 1982, the eye glance dictated, you are not welcome. Today if I enter, a salesperson constantly chases one, can I help you.

I conclude it all depends on one's behaviour.

If shower or changing undies was the only grouse, I read an article the germans do not change under garaments for a week.

I am not attempting to get into a row with Germans, I have used it only as an example.

Long of the short, discrimination exists, there are reasons, lastly it depends on individual's behaviour

Showdown
11-16-09, 08:49
Just two more milk pics to share including a women with the largest nipples I have ever seen! This was another girl I picked up while I was there just because she had big juggs and I wanted pics. I didnt want to screw her-she was too ugly! But I was lucky in that she had milk.

It seems that many of the Beach Road girls are recent moms. I discovered this through the large number of girls I found or was told about in my conversations with the beach road girls that said they had milk or had a baby in the last six months. It seems like the Thai guys fuck em and dump em. Sad.

West Coast
11-16-09, 09:03
Hi everyone,

I spend seven days in Thailand, and here is my story:

Arrived in BKK and took almost 2 hrs to reach my hotel (Star Inn).

Booked Ice from Mango online and she was there.

Spend great 2 hours with her, real PSE.

Next day I was in Patts. Booked a room in Jasmine Hotel at WS (change it latter to Intown Holiday on Soi 11).

Basically most of girls I had were from BR, FL from WS or Soi6.

This is the only photo I made during my trip. Girl was FL from BR (O 22yo). ST with her was 700 Thb (she won't take 500 Thb).

Best girl I was with (don't have her photo) gave me her phone # (Kai 19yo). If you wish to contact her her # is 084 561 2146 And price 500 Thb for ST (she will never go for LT).

She managed to finish 3 times during ST with me.

That's my small tips for you guys. Good luck and happy mongering.

Mngweco

Amjeck
11-16-09, 12:41
Guys,

Are there many young pretty ladies in the go-go's?


Does it feel like "high season" or "low season", etc.

Thanks!
Feels like high season.
I haven't seen many young pretty ladies that haven't been taken yet.

Rocky2009
11-16-09, 15:17
Thai people do not like dark skin people. Then thais says they don't like indian smell. Thats come from the early days indians traveling to Thailand. Mainly the woman wearing theier traditional cloths. Then as traditional culture they have theier special powder spraid over her body. This smell of this powder thai do not like. Finaly cames the hoteliers complaining indians wearing theier cloth while in swimmingpool. In the bathroom all this powder went in the water and all over the room. The rooms once this indians used went constantly out of order. Many hotelier after the first experience have no more accept indians wearing traditional cloths or simply closed hotel for the indian market. So all this ressentiments nowadays are still on. Even for indians tourist dressing western styl cloths nowadays thais think they smell.

So for Pakistan bang Sri Lanka its the skin and thais put them in the same basket as indians.

I am a ex hotelier trust me this is the main reason. but why they don t like dark skin people this I don't know!Hello, Jeff,

I think you talking about the people from Indian sub-continents like Pakistan, Srilanka or Bangladesh. Pleaes correct yourself about indian people because Indians are well civilized and can't smell like you said.

Chennai Kumar
11-16-09, 16:07
Thai people do not like dark skin people. Then thais says they don't like indian smell. Thats come from the early days indians traveling to Thailand. Mainly the woman wearing theier traditional cloths. Hi Dear,

I am from India and travelled extelsively most of the counties including Thailand many times. I have done with minimum of 30 females from thai from massage clubs, escort and pick ups from discs. No where I have faced a problem of being an indian. I am also medium colour. They need only money and if we behave decently no fem will reject Indians.

With respet

Kumar

Naked Gunz
11-16-09, 18:59
Feels like high season.
I haven't seen many young pretty ladies that haven't been taken yet.

I'm finding that if you want real GFE, stay with the 7's and 8's. Hot and very pretty young stunners are full of themselves and are lousy in bed. For my $, I want the girl to at least ACT like she likes me!

Fryatuck
11-16-09, 19:48
I am an Indian and have been travelling extensively to Europe,USA, Australia, Japan, Thailand, Singapore, Hongkong etc.

I am not talking as an isolated incident but by and large a bias against Indians do exist.

I have been a mongerer,but even when I am in a suit with tie,staying upmarket hotel or visiting upmarket restaurant,there are scores of events which I can reprt,but then this is not the forum.

I am not contesting but i do not know of special powder spray etc.

Some of our bretheren,whether staying in a country or visiting,do not follow local customs,bargain,at times to a point of pain,do not live or do not carry themselves well,and do not practise basic courtesies and do not follow simple hygeine is true.

Few years ago I sent some engineers for a training course to UK,and instructor called to say the other trainees had objected because our engineer was smelling.

As regards Thais are concerned my assesement of situation is the "firangs" are seen to be reckless spenders and Indians are percieved to be spendthrifts and there is a history, hence we all get branded.

I have faced discrimination but having said people whom I got to know at business and even hoteliers or regular cabbies and restaurants, well even WGs have also behaved well, but after a while.

One more element,with the rise of Indian international travelling and spending power, the attitudes against India is changing, I went to a leading UK store in 1982, the eye glance dictated, you are not welcome. Today if I enter, a salesperson constantly chases one, can I help you.

I conclude it all depends on one's behaviour.

If shower or changing undies was the only grouse, I read an article the germans do not change under garaments for a week.

I am not attempting to get into a row with Germans, I have used it only as an example.

Long of the short, discrimination exists, there are reasons, lastly it depends on individual's behaviourHello, Wandere,

I totally agree with your statements, I am from Indian stock but I was born and bread in England.

I was in Bangkok earlier this year and went to Baccara in Soi Cowboy. I saw lovely young girl who was "dancing" on the opposite end of the floor to where we were sitting (upstairs) I called her over, she saw me and ignored my request, so I went closer to her and gestured again that I would like her to join me for a drink, again she ignored me. So I went back to where I was sitting with some friends, the Mamasan must have seen this and grabbed the girl and bought her over, to which I said to Mamasan that I no longer wanted her as she obviously diddn't like me. After we left, one of my friends told me that Thais can be racist towards Indians due to the same reasons you identify, the powder/spray in quetion may be the pungent hair oil the Indians from back home use.

I personally love Thailand and experienced racism only once during my trip. I think the trend is changing. I believe it's up to the likes of us to "educate" and show that not all Indians are this way. I will go back to LOS and am planning my next trip, mabe in April, I won't let the possibility of racism deter me.

Bimbo Boy
11-17-09, 00:02
... Booked Ice from Mango online and she was there.
Spend great 2 hours with her, real PSE.
Mngweco
Hello!
What a beautiful girl!
Could you please give us the web link to Mango ?
Regards.
B.B.

Artful
11-17-09, 04:17
I think newbies and even some semi-newbies won't understand terms such as BR, WS and FL.

BR = Beach Road
WS = Walking Street
FL - Freelancer


Hi everyone,

I spend seven days in Thailand, and here is my story:

Arrived in BKK and took almost 2 hrs to reach my hotel (Star Inn).

Booked Ice from Mango online and she was there.

Spend great 2 hours with her, real PSE.

Next day I was in Patts. Booked a room in Jasmine Hotel at WS (change it latter to Intown Holiday on Soi 11).

Basically most of girls I had were from BR, FL from WS or Soi6.

This is the only photo I made during my trip. Girl was FL from BR (O 22yo). ST with her was 700 Thb (she won't take 500 Thb).

Best girl I was with (don't have her photo) gave me her phone # (Kai 19yo). If you wish to contact her her # is 084 561 2146 And price 500 Thb for ST (she will never go for LT).

She managed to finish 3 times during ST with me.

That's my small tips for you guys. Good luck and happy mongering.

Mngweco

Dracular
11-17-09, 04:33
Hi Guys.

YESH. It very true. Still we (dark skinned) people are facing discrimination in Asia and other countries of the world.

I'm not a Indina, and neither Bangladeshi. But in my experience. In mongering and other activities I have noticed same in Thailand, Cambodia, Malaysia and Singapore. I don't understand why these couontries are still in that level unciviliazed.

Specailly girls they don't like dark skinned, or medium skinned guys to approach them. What the fuck.? I thought most of the countries are more civilized now than it used to B. But we know. Only they are civilized in other areas. Not in discrimination based on colours and race.

Thanks for sharing guys your view.


Hello, Wandere,

I totally agree with your statements, I am from Indian stock but I was born and bread in England.

I was in Bangkok earlier this year and went to Baccara in Soi Cowboy. I saw lovely young girl who was "dancing" on the opposite end of the floor to where we were sitting (upstairs) I called her over, she saw me and ignored my request, so I went closer to her and gestured again that I would like her to join me for a drink, again she ignored me. So I went back to where I was sitting with some friends, the Mamasan must have seen this and grabbed the girl and bought her over, to which I said to Mamasan that I no longer wanted her as she obviously diddn't like me. After we left, one of my friends told me that Thais can be racist towards Indians due to the same reasons you identify, the powder/spray in quetion may be the pungent hair oil the Indians from back home use.

I personally love Thailand and experienced racism only once during my trip. I think the trend is changing. I believe it's up to the likes of us to "educate" and show that not all Indians are this way. I will go back to LOS and am planning my next trip, mabe in April, I won't let the possibility of racism deter me.

Thunderdome
11-17-09, 05:26
Pattaya is always BUSY. The beauty of Pattaya is that you can find a situation

That you like just by exploring. God, at last estimate there are 6, 200 bars in greater Pattaya. If you can't find some action in Pattaya, you can't ever find it anywhere on the whole fuckin earth.

God, I can hardly wait to get back there. Enjoy guys. The crazy Canadian.

Goyave
11-17-09, 06:09
I think newbies and even some semi-newbies won't understand terms such as BR, WS and FL.

BR = Beach Road
WS = Walking Street
FL - Freelancer

Many abbreviations are explained here: http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?t=1897

But not all regional abbreviations are listed, so, yes, it might be useful for some newbies...

Fast Eddie 48
11-17-09, 07:45
Hi Dear,

I am from India and travelled extelsively most of the counties including Thailand many times. I have done with minimum of 30 females from thai from massage clubs, escort and pick ups from discs. No where I have faced a problem of being an indian. I am also medium colour. They need only money and if we behave decently no fem will reject Indians.

With respet

KumarKumar,

Is like jeff said is the odor not skin color ,I have Thai girl that told me the same thing Indian have very poor hygene and bad odor and they are cheap charlie tight wads.

Fast eddie 48

Chachi420
11-17-09, 11:43
Hello, Wandere,

I totally agree with your statements, I am from Indian stock but I was born and bread in England.

I was in Bangkok earlier this year and went to Baccara in Soi Cowboy. I saw lovely young girl who was "dancing" on the opposite end of the floor to where we were sitting (upstairs) I called her over, she saw me and ignored my request, so I went closer to her and gestured again that I would like her to join me for a drink, again she ignored me. So I went back to where I was sitting with some friends, the Mamasan must have seen this and grabbed the girl and bought her over, to which I said to Mamasan that I no longer wanted her as she obviously diddn't like me. After we left, one of my friends told me that Thais can be racist towards Indians due to the same reasons you identify, the powder/spray in quetion may be the pungent hair oil the Indians from back home use.

I personally love Thailand and experienced racism only once during my trip. I think the trend is changing. I believe it's up to the likes of us to "educate" and show that not all Indians are this way. I will go back to LOS and am planning my next trip, mabe in April, I won't let the possibility of racism deter me.


Hi Fryatuck

Much like yourself, i am from Indian stock, born and bred British. I have been to Thailand several times, and never encountered any racism. This maybe in part due to being light skinnned, however the girls were always more than happy to spend time with me.

On my most recent trip to Pattaya, i did meet a couple of groups of Indian lads, from India. Some of the group were being quite obnoxious and acting like the proverbial kids in a sweet shop.
I doubt hygiene is an issue anymore, but rather the abrasive nature of these particular tourists. I presume only Indians from a certain wealth bracket can afford to travel abroad on these trips, and these people aren't usually very friendly to people in the service industry, even in India!

Of course i saw some white western guys acting like pricks, but this seems to be par for the course and (in the bigger scheme of things) tolerated.

Dveight
11-17-09, 11:44
Hi everyone,

I spend seven days in Thailand, and here is my story:

Arrived in BKK and took almost 2 hrs to reach my hotel (Star Inn).

Booked Ice from Mango online and she was there.

Spend great 2 hours with her, real PSE.

Next day I was in Patts. Booked a room in Jasmine Hotel at WS (change it latter to Intown Holiday on Soi 11).

Basically most of girls I had were from BR, FL from WS or Soi6.

This is the only photo I made during my trip. Girl was FL from BR (O 22yo). ST with her was 700 Thb (she won't take 500 Thb).

Best girl I was with (don't have her photo) gave me her phone # (Kai 19yo). If you wish to contact her her # is 084 561 2146 And price 500 Thb for ST (she will never go for LT).

She managed to finish 3 times during ST with me.

That's my small tips for you guys. Good luck and happy mongering.

MngwecoWest Coast,

Do you have a web address for this Mango Online?

Dveight

Jeff46
11-17-09, 11:59
Hello, Jeff,

I think you talking about the people from Indian sub-continents like Pakistan, Srilanka or Bangladesh. Pleaes correct yourself about indian people because Indians are well civilized and can't smell like you said.

To be more specific. With the early days I mean the years 1991. 1993 thats was when the first indian (not sub asia realy indians) group tourist arrived in mass in Thailand fews days bangkokk then Pattaya. The woman was wearing traditional cloths all of them no exeptions. Then all hotels in Bangkok and Pattaya closed for this market. The swimmingpool went constantly of of order from this powder. Blue yellow red etc. Then at least two years no more tourist from india went to Thailand no hotels wanted them. The first who startet to take them was the novotel bangna. But no traditional clothes allowed. So this was in 1991- 93. Nowadays I can garanty you that, checking in a 4 or 5 star Hotel in Thailand with traditional cloths on. Will cause you a problem.

Amjeck
11-17-09, 12:38
Of course i saw some white western guys acting like pricks, but this seems to be par for the course and (in the bigger scheme of things) tolerated.
Pattaya was created by white westerners, so they are tolerated even if they act like fools.

On the other hand, I've noticed a lot more Thai girls going with Indians and middle easteners in the last few years.

Dextro Sol
11-18-09, 13:40
West Coast,

Do you have a web address for this Mango Online?

Dveight

http://mangomassagesoi24.com/

Dveight
11-18-09, 14:45
http://mangomassagesoi24. Com/DExtro,

Thanks. Not sure how we ended up on the Pattaya forum, but I have a few questions about this place. I am quite suprised I have never heard of this place, but the offer full service? And what do the costs go up to for FS. Thanks!

DVEight

Fryatuck
11-18-09, 16:01
I presume only Indians from a certain wealth bracket can afford to travel abroad on these trips, and these people aren't usually very friendly to people in the service industry, even in India! Hi Chachi, Thanks for your comments.

I totally agree with your statement, the worrying thought is that, as India is the sacond largest developing third word country in the world today (after China) there will unfortunately be a larger influx of "indian" men with the exact attitude you describe travelling to Thailand. This may increase the the bad khama already experienced by all Indians:.(

Who knows what will happen, I for one will continue to enjoy the fruits that are available and discard the ones that are bruised or not ripe!

Imac Hunt
11-18-09, 18:05
Last week I went to meet a mate in Pattaya. It is not that often I get chance to go so I thought I would stop off at my number one road, now I am going to sound like an ass now but I can not remember what number it is, as in the soi number. All I can tell you is, it is the road with all the BJ bars on it and I go to the bar with a bar on each floor. Down stairs is an open air and upstairs has aircon and the bar has little hutches in it where the ladies sit while you are at the bar and they are giving you a blow.

The first time I went here I had the shock of my life as I went up stairs and I sat at the bar with a good idea to what was going to happen but before the lady started she said, do I want to sit on the sofa. The sofa I noticed has a closed off curtain so the area could be closed off. Well we jumped in and she started the gobble only for about 10 minutes into the action the cleaning lady popped her head around and started watching. The cleaner was a bit older but she looked really into it. She kept on coming backwards and forwards checking out the action. In the end I just looked at the lady giving me one and I pulled her head up and gave her 500 and called the cleaning lady over, fuck it was a good BJ, long slow and super sloppy and wet. That was another story back to this one.

I have this thing about picking ladies, if you pick the best looking one she has either had the shit shagged out of her or she has no customers as she is total rubbish. Then you pick the ugly one instead that either has had the shit shagged out of her as she is so good because ugly ones have to try harder because she is ugly or she has no experience because no one takes her, so she is crap. In the end the constant circles in my mind drove me crazy so I just go with the flow.

On entering the open air downstairs section I noticed one really super hot looking girl and I called her over. As I called all the staff started shouting no no no, I asked why and they said because she works next door, I said next door have blow job, answer no, Well ok forget it then. Then behind her was an even better looking lady, so I said, what about her then? I got a yes yes yes. I was thinking yes yes yes also, get her over here. She was a bit young looking and a bit dark skinned for me but I was ready willing and able and I have never ever got a bad BJ at this place. Up stairs we went.

I sat at the bar and the lady said, why not come private room with me. I asked how much she said 200 extra, well ok then lets go.

We went in, she stripped and what a great young firm body she had, slim and all the right lines, small chest with ok shaped boobs. She got out a cold towel cleaned me then started sucking away. She then stopped a couple of seconds into it and said, Ice. I am sure she seen the look or puzzlement on my face and she explained, with Blow job feel good. I gave it a try. She walked out and brought a large glass of ice put some in her mouth, chewed it a little and started giving me a BJ again. At first the thought went through my mind that it would feel bad but it felt pretty good. It was like the heat of my erection was being taken away which almost charmed my excitement but with her great technique it brewed it back up again. I think I could say it was almost refreshing.

About 15 minutes action took place with her sliding her body to the side so I could see her pussy and play with it, which made me feel all the more good about this experience. Every now and again she stopped and spat some of the now water out of her mouth and topping up the ice again.

To my annoyance, she stopped and said Tea, I mean fucking hell “tea”, what next? Roast beef and mashed potaoes. Fuck it lets try it. She walked out and she had a glass of what looked like tea with her. She added it to the remaining ice put some in her mouth and went back to work. My god it felt good. It made my dick die but in a good way really. All the tingling sex sensations kind of disappeared but kept the erotic sensations of me knowing I was having sex, it is difficult to explain it, did not slow me down or make me feel more horny? No, it just made it feel different. One of the things of doing what I do with my spare time is I shag a lot and anything that is different and good without being super purvey, I am up for trying and this experience was just one of those times. It was a real shock. About another 15 minutes past and I blow my load in her mouth.

She put her clothes on, I put my on and I gave her a 1000 tip which I know is over the odds for a place like this but she showed me something I did not know before and it felt great.

As I said I can not tell you the name of this place but I can give you directions.

Walk away from walking street up beach road and it is either the fourth or filth road and on the left as you walk up it is about five or six BJ bars, all open air. It is in the middle and I think I seen a sign saying pump station but do not quote me on that. The lady I took was the youngest girl in there and notable more young, she was about 22 and all the other women inside where about 35 to 40.

A 100% great experience.

I just wish I had more chance to go to Pat’

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LukeSkyWanker
11-18-09, 20:51
I once visited Akane fashion massage at Chitlom in Bangkok, had a fantastic massage. At one point I was on all fours on the table, she was stroking my cock from behind and massaging my prostate gently with a finger, this was the first time I experienced a finger up and it certainly added an extra inch to my erection. Does anybody know of a similar place in Pattaya, I will be there again soon, I often spend the daytime on Soi 6 and have had some wild experiences but never a massage, the last time I went to Sabailand I got ripped off so a return visit there is off the cards.

May the force be with you.

Member #4537
11-18-09, 21:17
I once visited Akane fashion massage at Chitlom in Bangkok, had a fantastic massage. At one point I was on all fours on the table, she was stroking my cock from behind and massaging my prostate gently with a finger, this was the first time I experienced a finger up and it certainly added an extra inch to my erection. Does anybody know of a similar place in Pattaya, I will be there again soon, I often spend the daytime on Soi 6 and have had some wild experiences but never a massage, the last time I went to Sabailand I got ripped off so a return visit there is off the cards.

May the force be with you.

Good question. May I also add the fact that rimming is pretty much standard service at Akane.

Fryatuck
11-18-09, 21:51
[QUOTE=Imac Hunt]She then stopped a couple of seconds into it and said, Ice. I am sure she seen the look or puzzlement on my face and she explained, with Blow job feel good. I gave it a try. She walked out and brought a large glass of ice put some in her mouth, chewed it a little and started giving me a BJ again. At first the thought went through my mind that it would feel bad but it felt pretty good. It was like the heat of my erection was being taken away which almost charmed my excitement but with her great technique it brewed it back up again. I think I could say it was almost refreshing.

About 15 minutes action took place with her sliding her body to the side so I could see her pussy and play with it, which made me feel all the more good about this experience. Every now and again she stopped and spat some of the now water out of her mouth and topping up the ice again.

To my annoyance, she stopped and said Tea, I mean fucking hell "tea", what next? Roast beef and mashed potaoes. Fuck it lets try it. She walked out and she had a glass of what looked like tea with her. She added it to the remaining ice put some in her mouth and went back to work. My god it felt good. It made my dick die but in a good way really. All the tingling sex sensations kind of disappeared but kept the erotic sensations of me knowing I was having sex, it is difficult to explain it, did not slow me down or make me feel more horny? No, it just made it feel different. One of the things of doing what I do with my spare time is I shag a lot and anything that is different and good without being super purvey, I am up for trying and this experience was just one of those times. It was a real shock. About another 15 minutes past and I blow my load in her mouth.

Mmm. I will never look at a glass of Iced tea in the same way again. Hehe Great post Mr Hunt!

I am waiting in anticipation for any other member to identify the said bar

Broadfield
11-18-09, 22:08
Hi guys,

I am planning a trip soon to Pattaya, I was wondering if anyone has any experience with Holiday Inn Pattaya? Is it girl friendly establishment? Location from the happening scenes. Etc

Much appreciated.

Member #4698
11-19-09, 04:05
It is not that often I get chance to go so I thought I would stop off at my number one road. But I can not remember what number it is, as in the soi number. All I can tell you is, it is the road with all the BJ bars on it and I go to the bar with a bar on each floor. Down stairs is an open air and upstairs has aircon and the bar has little hutches in it where the ladies sit while you are at the bar and they are giving you a blow.

In the end I just looked at the lady giving me one and I pulled her head up and gave her 500 and called the cleaning lady over, fuck it was a good BJ, long slow and super sloppy and wet.Very funny story. I like the part where you let the horny cleaning women take over. You are a wild and crazy guy. I also like the 2nd part of your story where you received the fire and ice treatment from the attactive young girl.


On entering the open air downstairs section I noticed one really super hot looking girl and I called her over. As I called all the staff started shouting no no no, I asked why and they said because she works next door, I said next door have blow job, answer no, Well ok forget it then. Then behind her was an even better looking lady, so I said, what about her then? I got a yes yes yes. I was thinking yes yes yes also, get her over here. She was a bit young looking and a bit dark skinned for me but I was ready willing and able and I have never ever got a bad BJ at this place. Upstairs we went.

I sat at the bar and the lady said, why not come private room with me. I asked how much she said 200 extra, well ok then let's go.

We went in, she stripped and what a great young firm body she had, slim and all the right lines, small chest with ok shaped boobs. She got out a cold towel cleaned me then started sucking away. She then stopped a couple of seconds into it and said, Ice. I am sure she seen the look or puzzlement on my face and she explained, with Blow job feel good. I gave it a try. She walked out and brought a large glass of ice put some in her mouth, chewed it a little and started giving me a BJ again. At first the thought went through my mind that it would feel bad but it felt pretty good. It was like the heat of my erection was being taken away which almost charmed my excitement but with her great technique it brewed it back up again. I think I could say it was almost refreshing.

To my annoyance, she stopped and said Tea, I mean fucking hell "tea", what next? Roast beef and mashed potatoes. Fuck it lets try it. She walked out and she had a glass of what looked like tea with her. She added it to the remaining ice put some in her mouth and went back to work. My god it felt good. It made my dick die but in a good way really.

She put her clothes on, I put my on and I gave her a 1000 tip which I know is over the odds for a place like this but she showed me something I did not know before and it felt great.

As I said I cannot tell you the name of this place but I can give you directions. Walk away from walking street up beach road and it is either the fourth or fifth road and on the left as you walk up it is about five or six BJ bars, all open air. It is in the middle and I think I seen a sign saying pump station but do not quote me on that. The lady I took was the youngest girl in there and notable more young, she was about 22 and all the other women inside where about 35 to 40.

A 100% great experience.The bar you went to was probably The Pump Station on Soi 13/2 (Soi Post Office). Pump Station is one of the better BJ bars in Pattaya. Also on Soi 13/2 is Spricy Girls (formerly "Nice with Ice") and Golden Girls. What is encouraging is that you found a young hottie to give you the fire and ice. Proving not all girls in these bars are old and ugly dogs.

Stay thirsty my friend.

Jelly37
11-19-09, 06:13
To my annoyance, she stopped and said Tea, I mean fucking hell “tea”, what next? Roast beef and mashed potaoes. Fuck it lets try it.


Good phookin' story, Imac. I know about where you're describing, so I'm confident I can pretty much find the place. Problem is, I won't be able to keep a straight face, thinking of roast beef and mashed potatoes.

Italian Guy
11-19-09, 09:03
I think your talking about the new Holdiay in On Soi 1 or 2 it just open in Oct? not very long ago.Some bars near bowling alley Soi 2 that has a cheap charlies breakfeat for 50 bht.Italian guy just my 2cents.

P.s everything is a short tuk bus ride to any action.


Hi guys,

I am planning a trip soon to Pattaya, I was wondering if anyone has any experience with Holiday Inn Pattaya? Is it girl friendly establishment? Location from the happening scenes. Etc

Much appreciated.

Patty Boy
11-19-09, 09:35
This is my 4th day in Pattaya for a 2 week trip, and I'm having a good time. It is everything I've expected so far. Question for you guys.

If you go to a disco like Lucifer and Insomnia and dance with the girls in the club and bring them back to your hotel for some overnight fun, are you generally expected to pay them the usual 1000 to 1500 the next morning or are these freebies?

I am fairly young (27) and good looking asian american male (apparently somewhat of a rarity in these parts according to some of the girls I have talked to?). I have been offered for free at several bars and go-gos (minus bar fine, and sometimes even bar fine).

However, I went to Lucifer for the first time last night and a girl went back to my room, some mindblowing sex, and didn't ask for money the next day (my understanding is that they may be expecting that you pay?). I bought her lunch and she went off on her way. SO to end this long winded question, are the girls you pick up at the discos all freebies (assuming they don't ask about payment prior to going to your room) or do they expect that you will pay? There are at least a few hotties at the disco, and if I don't have to pay, I will probably be spending the rest of my time in discos instead of going to bars and gogos. At least you will know that the girl is interested in YOU and not your money.

Also, silly question, but at the discos is it considered poor form to make out / feel up the girls? What about doing it with one girl and moving onto the next girl?

Chachi420
11-19-09, 12:59
Hi Chachi, Thanks for your comments.

I totally agree with your statement, the worrying thought is that, as India is the sacond largest developing third word country in the world today (after China) there will unfortunately be a larger influx of "indian" men with the exact attitude you describe travelling to Thailand. This may increase the the bad khama already experienced by all Indians:.(

Who knows what will happen, I for one will continue to enjoy the fruits that are available and discard the ones that are bruised or not ripe!


On the contrary, i think the more travel there is, the quicker the required mental adjustment will take place.
It won't take long to understand that a smile and the odd compliment will get you further than grunting and waving baht notes.

Fryatuck
11-19-09, 14:01
On the contrary, i think the more travel there is, the quicker the required mental adjustment will take place.

It won't take long to understand that a smile and the odd compliment will get you further than grunting and waving baht notes.I certainly hope you are right, grunting should be for the bedroom only and waiving of Thai Baht in public is never a great idea!

Time will tell

Daddy San
11-19-09, 17:28
On the contrary, i think the more travel there is, the quicker the required mental adjustment will take place.
It won't take long to understand that a smile and the odd compliment will get you further than grunting and waving baht notes.
I hope you are right, but I seriously doubt it.
All you need to do, is watch how some, if not most, visitors from W. Europe, (notably the Brits, Germans and Dutch) behave, after over 30 years of Pattaya sex tourism.

Amjeck
11-19-09, 19:39
are the girls you pick up at the discos all freebies (assuming they don't ask about payment prior to going to your room) or do they expect that you will pay?
Most girls expect money, but if they don't ask then don't give. Sometimes they are to shy to ask, too drunk to remember to ask, or just want to have fun. If you're talking about discos on walking street, then 99% of the thai girls in the discos are prostitutes. If you score a freebie, just keep in mind that she is a prostitute and her profession is selling sex. Keep that in your head as you contemplate whether to hand over cash or not.

Naked Gunz
11-19-09, 19:42
If you go to a disco like Lucifer and Insomnia and dance with the girls in the club and bring them back to your hotel for some overnight fun, are you generally expected to pay them the usual 1000 to 1500 the next morning or are these freebies?

I am fairly young (27) and good looking asian american male (apparently somewhat of a rarity in these parts according to some of the girls I have talked to?). I have been offered for free at several bars and go-gos (minus bar fine, and sometimes even bar fine).

Also, silly question, but at the discos is it considered poor form to make out / feel up the girls? What about doing it with one girl and moving onto the next girl?

Those are FL mainly, but I've noticed that those in the back are groupies for the band, (LUCIFERS), so wait till the band goes on break and see who belongs to who.

FL usually have a price, but they told you they don't see many guys like you here so keep workin it bro! Seems to me it is expected to make out/feel up, as long as she is having fun too.

Amjeck
11-19-09, 19:46
I am fairly young (27) and good looking asian american male (apparently somewhat of a rarity in these parts according to some of the girls I have talked to?). I have been offered for free at several bars and go-gos (minus bar fine, and sometimes even bar fine).


I'd recommend you hang out in Bkk outside of the p4p scene where the cream of the crop is. Pattaya is the lowest end of the market with lots of throwbacks.

If you're what you say you are and the girls are throwing themselves at you, use your looks and get the best Thailand has to offer. The best is in BKK!

Good luck, and let us know your success!

ThaiLearner
11-19-09, 20:51
This is my 4th day in Pattaya for a 2 week trip, and I'm having a good time. It is everything I've expected so far. Question for you guys.

If you go to a disco like Lucifer and Insomnia and dance with the girls in the club and bring them back to your hotel for some overnight fun, are you generally expected to pay them the usual 1000 to 1500 the next morning or are these freebies?

I am fairly young (27) and good looking asian american male (apparently somewhat of a rarity in these parts according to some of the girls I have talked to?). I have been offered for free at several bars and go-gos (minus bar fine, and sometimes even bar fine).

However, I went to Lucifer for the first time last night and a girl went back to my room, some mindblowing sex, and didn't ask for money the next day (my understanding is that they may be expecting that you pay?). I bought her lunch and she went off on her way. SO to end this long winded question, are the girls you pick up at the discos all freebies (assuming they don't ask about payment prior to going to your room) or do they expect that you will pay? There are at least a few hotties at the disco, and if I don't have to pay, I will probably be spending the rest of my time in discos instead of going to bars and gogos. At least you will know that the girl is interested in YOU and not your money.

Also, silly question, but at the discos is it considered poor form to make out / feel up the girls? What about doing it with one girl and moving onto the next girl?


In the past I have taken quite a few FLs from the discos in Pattaya I always offer them a 1000bht the next morning most accept but some have declined.

I would treat all girls the same don't just feel them up in the club unless they want you too.

Naked Gunz
11-19-09, 21:19
I'd recommend you hang out in Bkk outside of the p4p scene where the cream of the crop is. Pattaya is the lowest end of the market with lots of throwbacks.

If you're what you say you are and the girls are throwing themselves at you, use your looks and get the best Thailand has to offer. The best is in BKK!

Good luck, and let us know your success!

OMG! Can't agree more. Been here two weeks and tired of seeing these fugly women. I've had to put mileage on my heels to find my body type that also looks really good. After sorting thru these ladyboys and beach rd. yaba junkies, and fugly cunts , what is left? Had a stunner actually give me ATTITUDE in Lucifer! Who is the ho *****! It still can be had by any man for 60 something bucks.

The Scout
11-20-09, 01:49
In the past I have taken quite a few FLs from the discos in Pattaya I always offer them a 1000bht the next morning most accept but some have declined.

I would treat all girls the same don't just feel them up in the club unless they want you too.
Most girls expect money, but if they don't ask then don't give. Sometimes they are to shy to ask, too drunk to remember to ask, or just want to have fun. If you're talking about discos on walking street, then 99% of the thai girls in the discos are prostitutes. If you score a freebie, just keep in mind that she is a prostitute and her profession is selling sex. Keep that in your head as you contemplate whether to hand over cash or not.I think of it as a business. They aren't there in the sex area to just get off (even if horny) or make friends, so I always offer 1000 in the morning like ThaiLearner. I think it's better to do this to avoid any trouble or unwanted girlfriend wannabe. I always try to tie it into something they said or I say something like "Here, I want you to enjoy the day at the beach with your girlfriends" or "Use this for shopping" or whatever so they save face. If they decline so be it.

El Culion
11-20-09, 12:19
If you go to a disco like Lucifer and Insomnia and dance with the girls in the club and bring them back to your hotel for some overnight fun, are you generally expected to pay them the usual 1000 to 1500 the next morning or are these freebies?I discretely put B1000 next to their handbag when they are in the shower. All the girls in these discos are there for the money, so they will take it even if they like you.
And remember, you pay a hooker to LEAVE, not to stay :)

Amjeck
11-20-09, 12:24
OMG! Can't agree more. Been here two weeks and tired of seeing these fugly women. I've had to put mileage on my heels to find my body type that also looks really good. After sorting thru these ladyboys and beach rd. yaba junkies, and fugly cunts , what is left? Had a stunner actually give me ATTITUDE in Lucifer! Who is the ho *****! It still can be had by any man for 60 something bucks.
I feel your pain bro! It's high season and the market is tough!

The funny thing with these tourist spots in Thailand (pattaya, samui, phuket) it seems like the more expensive, popular, and inundated with high spending tourists, the lesser the quality of meat that is available. I know that most of the good stuff is grabbed fast, but it just seems like the total supply gets worse with the increase in spending. I guess its that reverse Thai logic again!

Bill Miami
11-21-09, 03:46
I keep reading these threads about not being able to find hot girls, all I have to say is "What a bunch of crap".

As somebody that has lived here six years now and has more experience than almost every poster on this board, I will be glad to provide you the real facts.

First, if you think the second you roll into town the most beautiful girl in Thailand is just going to jump into your bed, I have to tell you sorry that is not going to happen.

But, if you are willing to do a little work, like an hours worth at the most and spend a little money you can take home a STUNNER every night. Without question, you will find the hottest girls on the most consistent basis at the Go-Go bars on walking street.

The ones I start at, which also are the best paying are Happy A Go-Go, Super Baby's and Super Girls. If you can't get a super model out of one of those bars, well then it is like the old saying isn't it, "You can't even get laid in a brothel with a wad full of cash."

But, if you sit at some beer bar all night long getting drunk because they have inexpensive beer and you are cheap, you are not going to find anything.

For all of you that are commenting on the quality of the girls on beach road, they are now and always have been the lowest of the low. I really can't believe you would spend so much money to get over here and go with girls that guys like me that live here NEVER touch.

I don't know how many Go-Go bars there are on walking street, maybe 100 or so. Maybe 1,000 beer bars, all you have to do is look around. There are literally thousands of free lancers on the street too.

I don't go to the discos too much; instead I just stand out on the street for 15 minutes or so and watch 100's of them walk by and pick out the first super star that pass by. Really, how hard is that?

That being said, you can find super hotties at any bar on any given night, you just never know. The girls just move around so much and there are always so many new ones coming to town.

As for the prices, I have been here six years and the prices for the girls hasn't changed one bit. The beer prices have gone up, but even the best Go-Go bars like Harpy's, they have 55 Baht draft beer specials.

As for the guy complaining because some girl did not want to go with him, are you kidding me seriously? I am sure you don't look like Tom Cruse and besides that you never know what else the girl had in mind that night.

Maybe she was meeting her friends latter, maybe her boyfriend, maybe she just didn't like you as hard is that is to believe, maybe you were drunk out of your mind, which is my guess, who knows.

Even the best super model at the best Go-Go bar gets turned down 10 times for every customer that takes her. So, why would anybody ever get upset because one girl turned him down?

For all of you that are reading there comments that have never been here, the truth is all above. Are there fat girls here, yes? Are there ugly girls here, yes? Are there stunners everywhere you go here, yes? And you can have them if you put in a little effort.

If your smart and are going to be here two weeks or so, get yourself a mobile phone. They are cheap and every girl has one. If you meet a girl you like, get her number and call her over for a little afternoon action. They all love this, because it is like free money for them, since they did not have to work for it by finding somebody new.

After a week of doing this you will have 20 numbers of different girls that will be glad to be with you all day if you like. Also, one other thing, when you take a girl the 2nd time the experience gets better. They now think of you as there friend. So, not only is it easier to take them from the bar, you have more fund too.

Goyave
11-21-09, 06:22
I keep reading these threads about not being able to find hot girls, all I have to say is "What a bunch of crap".

I kind of agree with you here, but it really depends on what one considers as being a "hot girl". I find it more difficult in Pattaya than 10 years ago, but it's for several reasons, one of them being that my own taste in local women as a long term resident is not the same than during my first stays here as a tourist.


As somebody that has lived here six years now and has more experience than almost every poster on this board, I will be glad to provide you the real facts.

Thanks, but you're a bit presumptuous here. Fortunately, you wrote "almost", but you are not the only one among the frequent posters of this board who lives in Thailand on a daily basis since year 2003 or earlier. If you were speaking about this particular section of ISG forum, it's certainly truer, but you should have stated it a bit differently in my humble opinion.


First, if you think the second you roll into town the most beautiful girl in Thailand is just going to jump into your bed, I have to tell you sorry that is not going to happen.

Sure. I would say that it's very unlikely that the "most beautiful girl in Thailand" (according to which and whose criteria by the way?) resides in Pattaya and even more unlikely that she would be available in the P4P market. As far as I'm concerned, I find more beautiful girls (in average) among young women that have a "regular" job than among prostitutes.


But, if you are willing to do a little work, like an hours worth at the most and spend a little money you can take home a STUNNER every night. Without question, you will find the hottest girls on the most consistent basis at the Go-Go bars on walking street.

In average, you might be right, but I haven't seen many pictures posted by you so far, so it's difficult to know exactly what you consider as the "hottest girls". I might have missed some of your reports, but have not been impressed by the few girls that I saw in your company, for instance in this report: http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=521971#post521971

In my humble opinion, one of them is cute, but certainly not a stunner (at least for me). Maybe could you post more recent pictures of some go-go girls that you consider the hottest women in town?


... For all of you that are commenting on the quality of the girls on beach road, they are now and always have been the lowest of the low. I really can't believe you would spend so much money to get over here and go with girls that guys like me that live here NEVER touch.

You might be right, but, I've found some real stunners on Beach Road, and even more important, those girls are (in average again) more likely to perform very well in the sack, while some go-go girls may be very disappointing once back at your place or in your hotel room. According to my own experience (but YMMV, of course), you can get more fun for your bucks with Beach Road girls than with go-go girls. Alas, it seems that the (average) quality of providers has dramatically decreased in the recent years on Beach Road, but maybe, it's just me. It was quite easy to find a very good-looking girl there for an early afternoon fun on my first stays here, but nowadays, there's not much available there early in the day. It's better once the night has fallen though.


I don't go to the discos too much; instead I just stand out on the street for 15 minutes or so and watch 100's of them walk by and pick out the first super star that pass by. Really, how hard is that?

Been there, done that and yes, it's not difficult at all. But it might require a lot more than 15 minutes in order to find a real stunner if one is a bit more picky than you.


That being said, you can find super hotties at any bar on any given night, you just never know. The girls just move around so much and there are always so many new ones coming to town.

That's true.


As for the prices, I have been here six years and the prices for the girls hasn't changed one bit...

Two or three years ago (but it didn't last very long), I've noticed a slight inflation (again in average) in prices for the girls, for instance on Beach Road and for many freelancers from Walking Street (my two favorite hunting grounds in Pattaya). Ten years ago, it was also easier to get two (yes, 2!) decent girls in their early twenties from Beach Road for a total amounting 500 or 600 baht in the early afternoon for a ST session. Nowadays, it's (almost) impossible mission for the average Joe (but it's still possible with older and less attractive women). But almost everybody can still get a ST session for 500 baht and a LT one for 1000 baht from a single provider working on Beach Road (and from many freelancers available in several other places), and those prices are the same than 10 years ago. Barfines are (in average) higher than in the past (ten years ago, it was only 200 baht in almost every bar - not speaking about go-go's here).

By the way, one can still get a cheap blow job in the woods located near Arthachinda Road for 200 baht and a cheap fuck for 300 baht (or even less with the uglier and older girls), but it's not for the faint of heart: I don't know for sure where to find the most beautiful girls in Thailand, but that's certainly not in this area (even though once in a while, one can find an almost decent looking girl there).

I agree with most of your other comments. Just wanted to add that the most beautiful girls are not always the most expensive ones and one should not disregard some places (such as Beach Road, for instance) because some real gems still can be found here, despite them being (in my humble opinion) less numerous than in the past...

Amjeck
11-21-09, 07:37
I keep reading these threads about not being able to find hot girls, all I have to say is "What a bunch of crap".

As somebody that has lived here six years now and has more experience than almost every poster on this board,
Post your pics of your girls then we'll all have our say. If you can't see the changing trends in pattaya regarding quality, I'm sorry to say, but we're not seeing the same thing. Or maybe you find the 23yo+ market hot. If you do, then all the power to you.

You mentioned one thing in your post that is the truth: It takes work, time and energy to find something good to take home for the night. I guess you like working. I'm finding that I work harder and spend more time searching than I used to.

Amjeck
11-21-09, 07:41
In average, you might be right, but I haven't seen many pictures posted by you so far, so it's difficult to know exactly what you consider as the "hottest girls". I might have missed some of your reports, but have not been impressed by the few girls that I saw in your company, for instance in this report: http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=521971#post521971


If this is his definition of hot, then yes, he is in heaven! Can get this quality (low quality IMO) all day long in Pattaya.

The Scout
11-21-09, 11:59
[QUOTE=Bill Miami]I keep reading these threads about not being able to find hot girls, all I have to say is "What a bunch of crap".[quote]All I have to say is "Beauty is in the eye of the beholder"

And with that being said... between Phuket, BKK, and Pattaya, I find the most attractive girls (to me) in Pattaya and they are plentiful. For the people who don't think the girls I like are stunners, thank you! It helps keep their prices low and my happiness up.

We're in Thailand so it really is up to you. And of course it takes some research (or alcohol consumption) to find the cuties that match your taste.

DerekTheDuke2004
11-21-09, 23:17
Will be flying into Bangkok next week around midnight. I understand there are buses that leave directly from the airport to Pattaya. Does anyone know if the run through the night? Can I hop on a bus at 1am?

Bill Miami
11-22-09, 05:07
Goyave, I obviously upset you when I said one of your favorite hunting grounds are where the worst of the worst girls hang out. And if you live here, then you know it is true.

The girls that are regulars on beach-road are there because they can't get jobs at bars for one reason or another. These might be one or all of the following, they are thefts, they have some kind of sexual disease, including aids, they are almost assuredly drug addicts, or they are simply crazy.

The reasons the prices are higher than they were before you also know, or should know. Those girls are controlled by the little mafia gangs that runs each section of the beach; they have to kick back 200 Baht to each time they take a customer. These gangs were not there as little as three years ago.

As for the "Woods located near Arthachinda Road" you mentioned, I have never heard of it and I do not ever intend on attempting to find it. We obviously hang out in different sections of town. And I like where I reside.

Amjeck, I am not going to get into a pissing contest with you. But, I will say the following. If you knew as much as Pattaya as you seem to imply you do, you would of instantly recognized the bar where those pictures were taken.

It is now and has been for years the most popular bar on Soi 6. Even if you did not recognize the inside of the bar, you should have known the evening gowns the girls were wearing, because they have been using them for at least 5 years.

As for the girls, it was a little afternoon 2 hour lesbo session that cost me 1,600 Baht. The small one was super cute, with a firm set of B cups. The tall one was one of the tallest Thai girls I have ever seen, almost 6-0". They don't rate in my top ten, but overall it was a good way to kill a few hours.

As for taking pictures of the girls, I am so past that point. That is something you do when you first get here, after a while it gets old. I am sure being the old pro you are, you surely realize that.

You know now exactly where I hang out and what my strategy is. For all of you coming here for the first time and have a little money to spend, which or course you do, the following is good action plan.

If I am in the mood for a little afternoon action I head to Soi 6. There are 50 or more short time bars there and it opens at 11AM, one of the earliest places you can find girls.

I never mentioned another of my favorite bars on here before, but I will now since one of the best girls I have ever been with does not work there anymore. I wanted to keep her to myself, but it is the "Welcome Inn" on Soi 2 or 3 in Pattaya. Great lesbo action at this bar, most of the girls there are free lancers and known for this service.

Amjeck, being the Pattaya pro you are, then I am sure you know Happy's A Go-Go, Super Girls and Super Baby's and I am sorry to say if out of the 200 girls those bars have on any given night you can't find a super star, there must be only 10 girls in the world that can meet your standards.

I lived in Bangkok too for years before I moved here and I spent millions at Nana and Soi Cowboy and I can tell these bars are just as good if not better than any bars at those two locations.

And as for my other strategy, I will explain this in a little more detail for the newcomers. In my last post I said I don't go to the discos, but just hang out on Walking Street and watch all the free-lancers walk up and down.

I do this because most of them are going to the discos and I can see much more of them in a much shorter time than a crowed dark disco.

These girls can be regulars from the area, or girls with normal jobs in Pattaya that just want to make a little extra money, they can be girls from Bangkok, that come down to make a little extra money because they jobs pay so poorly or in many cases they are university students that come down when schools out.

What ever the case, in 15 minutes at 11PM you will see maybe 200 to 300 walk by heading to the discos. And again Amjeck I will say if out of that many girls you can't find one you like, your standards are certainly much higher than mine, and I am positive I can say your standards are higher than 99.99% of the males on earth.

As for my standards, I will supply you a little detail. For you newcomers, after you have been here a while you get jaded and become harder and harder to please. But, when you first get here, you are not going to believe what you are going to see.

First, since I am a tit man, I like a nice full set, which isn't the easiest thing to find in Thailand. Next, I like a cute to beautiful face. And financially and most important of all, she has to be nice, funny and friendly.

A good tip to remember and something I always do is to offer to buy the girl a drink and talk to here. If she is nice and wants to go with me fine, but if she is stuck up or whatever, I just move on. It's not like in 10 seconds you can't have another girl.

Cunning Stunt
11-22-09, 06:21
If this is his definition of hot, then yes, he is in heaven! Can get this quality (low quality IMO) all day long in Pattaya.

Interested in your concept of 'hot'. Maybe you might like to post a photo of one of your 'hotties' for purely comparative purposes? As you do not appear to have ever contributed a picture to ISG, I better not hold my breath;).

At least Goyave has submitted photos. Are these girls hot?

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=113690
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=106614
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=106328
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=106325
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=106319
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=106316

Amjeck
11-22-09, 07:36
Amjeck, being the Pattaya pro you are, then I am sure you know Happy's A Go-Go, Super Girls and Super Baby's and I am sorry to say if out of the 200 girls those bars have on any given night you can't find a super star, there must be only 10 girls in the world that can meet your standards.


I think you nailed it. My standards have risen over the years and recently since i stopped drinking. I'm unfortunatley stuck in the pattaya grove do to economics. I simply can't pull the stunners (5k-10K market) in bkk due to finances. One girl a day would bankrupt me pretty fast.

I do feel that the gogos you mentioned have some attractive girls, but never seen anything model like. In fact the hottest chick I've seen all week was riding in the passengers seat of a convertible M3 of a rich thai on beach road. Any of you guys see her? Now this girl was HOT!!!!!!!

Anyhow, I'm glad most of you guys here are still finding your "hot" girls.

Amjeck
11-22-09, 07:45
The girls that are regulars on beach-road are there because they can't get jobs at bars for one reason or another. These might be one or all of the following, they are thefts, they have some kind of sexual disease, including aids, they are almost assuredly drug addicts, or they are simply crazy.


This is really interesting that you mention that. The other day I met a rather attractive girl on beach road, definatley out of place. After a conversation with her, she tells me she used to work at one of the top discos and used to get 2500ST from customers. Now she is working on the beach and going for 700ST. I didn't take her because the first thing that popped into my head was HIV. Why would any girl give up that kind of money to work on the beach? She tried to give some kind of reason like she didn't like working in the bar, blah, blah, blah.

Didn't make sense to me and my gut said don't go with her.

Wendella
11-22-09, 08:03
Interested in your concept of 'hot'.

Who could tell from some of these photos. For the ones we can get some idea what the girl looks like, I'd say No. I'd rate these in the 5-6.5 range. Some of the fuzzy grainy ones could possibly rate higher, but who can tell.

You have to be 8 or higher to be called Hot, I'd say. Lower than that and you're just abusing the language.

Not sure why there's a WTF attached to your post. What, we're not allowed to have our own taste unless we post photos? Man, I'm glad you don't write the forum rules.

Personally, though, going by the pix you linked, I'd only go with most of those girls as Plan B. Some are even unappealing, I'd choose sleeping alone.

Anyway, I firmly support a man's right to choose. And be picky. If that's what he wants to do.

Hope you're not one of the bar-beer denial-goggles contingent.

Wendella
11-22-09, 08:07
My standards have risen over the years and recently since i stopped drinking.
Works every time. ;)

Goyave
11-22-09, 08:08
Goyave, I obviously upset you when I said one of your favorite hunting grounds are where the worst of the worst girls hang out. And if you live here, then you know it is true.

I'm not upset. Just said that one should not disregard Beach Road because some real gems (and great performers) can still be found there, despite them being less numerous than in the past.


The girls that are regulars on beach-road are there because they can't get jobs at bars for one reason or another. These might be one or all of the following, they are thefts, they have some kind of sexual disease, including aids, they are almost assuredly drug addicts, or they are simply crazy.

That's not always because of the reasons you mentioned. Some girls there just don't want to work in a bar nor under anyone's supervision and management. They prefer being independent. I've met many really beautiful girls there who don't work everyday. They work only when they want or need, and with their good looks, they don't have to wait very long to find a customer. They are honest, don't smoke, don't drink alcohol, are not drug addicts and are not more likely to have a sexual disease than any other girl in the P4P business. And those are not a rarity, believe it or not! It's true that one must be careful with certain girls working on Beach Road, but if you are not stupid and wary enough, you can find real gems there.


The reasons the prices are higher than they were before you also know, or should know. Those girls are controlled by the little mafia gangs that runs each section of the beach; they have to kick back 200 Baht to each time they take a customer. These gangs were not there as little as three years ago.

I said that I've noticed a slight inflation in prices two or three years ago, but it did not last long. Actually, I believe that there were an increase in prices for several reasons, one of them being that there were less tourists coming here after certain political events that occurred in the Land of Smiles, and Thai logic being what it is, some providers did believe that they could compensate a loss in their revenues by increasing their prices. It's not the only reason why, but this should not surprise people who have stayed here long enough...

As for the gangs on Beach Road, yes, they are probably more numerous than in the past, but they certainly don't control every girl on Beach Road! I also know many girls originating from I-San and who have chosen to go work here voluntarily (most of the times, because they already know a friend, a cousin or a sister who is working or had worked there) and who are not "pimped" by anybody (not even by a local boyfriend). Those are not a rarity either.


As for the "Woods located near Arthachinda Road" you mentioned, I have never heard of it and I do not ever intend on attempting to find it. We obviously hang out in different sections of town. And I like where I reside.

I just mentioned this place while discussing how the prices for certain providers have changed (or not) during the past ten years (and also because it might be interesting for some of our fellow mongers), but your reply demonstrates that even if you've lived here on a daily basis for more than 6 years, you're not as knowledgeable as you implied with your remark stating that you have "more experience than almost every poster on this board".

To each his own, but, yes, I like getting a cheap quick release sometimes... at 200 baht (or even less) for a BBBJTC, I won't complain even if the provider is far than being a stunner (provided that the job is well done).


As for taking pictures of the girls, I am so past that point. That is something you do when you first get here, after a while it gets old. I am sure being the old pro you are, you surely realize that.

Well, I'm not a great amateur photographer nor filmmaker, but I often regret (even nowadays) not to have my camera or my camcorder with me when I encounter certain girls. But as you reside in Pattaya, it should not be an issue for you to provide a few more recent pictures showing what you consider as being the "hottest women" in town, because at the moment, I (and apparently other members as well) haven't been impressed by your samples...


...What ever the case, in 15 minutes at 11PM you will see maybe 200 to 300 walk by heading to the discos. And again Amjeck I will say if out of that many girls you can't find one you like, your standards are certainly much higher than mine, and I am positive I can say your standards are higher than 99.99% of the males on earth.
...

I don't know what 99.99% of the males on Earth would think, but I'm pretty sure that for the spoiled bastards (and I'm one of them) who have lived in the Land of Smiles on a daily basis for several years, it will often require a lot more than 15 minutes at 11pm to find a real stunner nowadays in this area... But it's true that long term residents are usually much pickier than the average tourist.

Bill Miami
11-22-09, 08:17
Amjeck,

Now that you are not knocking me, I will be quite a bit nicer. What people don't understand that don't live here, is that there are a ton of guys like you that live here and have fantastic lives.

As for the Go-Go bars, it is not that bad. The bar fine in 600 Baht, and 1,500 for ST and 2,000 for LT. If you take the girl early for LT, they might want a double bar fine, so just take them after 11PM.

The best deal without question, are the free-lancers on walking street after 11PM or so. There price is 500 for ST and 1,000 for LT. I always look for one that dresses nice, not smutty like so many of them do.

That way there is a good chance she has a real job, they are the best. I always also like to find out if they just came down from Bangkok, there really good too.

I just say hello and ask them if they want to have a drink, 90% will say yes and I take them to one of the beer bars on the ocean and talk to them for a while. If I like them, they like me and they seem normal I will take them back to my condo. I have never had a problem with this approach.

You really can't believe some of the girls you can get using this strategy. As far as drinking, you really can't go wrong with the 55 Baht draft beers at Happy's. It certainly gets you in the mood, for something if you don't leave Happy's with a girl.

The next best option is Soi 6, its only 300 for the BF, room and 500 for the girl. Other than that you can search the beer bars for the same price, but that could take some time and you could end up coming up dry. It is impossible not to find something nice on Soi 6, with 1,000 to 2,000 girls depending on what time you go.

Anything is better that beach-road; more than one guy has been robbed, drugged, beat up or what ever else. And Buda forbid, you catch something you really don't want to have and many of them do have it. That's why they are there, they can't pass there medicals for the regular bars.

Goyave
11-22-09, 08:26
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At least Goyave has submitted photos. Are these girls hot?

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=113690
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=106614
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=106328
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=106325
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=106319
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=106316

They are not the hottest girls one can find in the Land of Smiles (not even in Pattaya) and you've missed a few other ones by the way (and not the worst looking ones!). I would rate those on a scale ranging from 6.5 to 8/10, but some photos and video captures do not give them justice. And none of them charged me more than 500 baht ST or 1000 LT (I paid even less for girls working in a brothel).

I value chemistry with the girl more than her looks, but one can find better looking girls than those even on Beach Road or in local brothels almost everywhere in Thailand.

Daddy07
11-22-09, 08:29
...The girls that are regulars on beach-road are there because they can't get jobs at bars for one reason or another. These might be one or all of the following, they are thefts, they have some kind of sexual disease, including aids, they are almost assuredly drug addicts, or they are simply crazy...
I agree with a lot of what you've said about girls in Pattaya, but not this.

There are loads of reasons why many cute girls don't want to work at a bar. They don't want a job requiring their presense in one spot 8 hours a day 6 or 7 days a week, and be docked pay for not showing up.

They don't want to be docked pay just because they didn't meet their quota of lady drinks and bar fines for that month.

They might have another day job or go to school so they only want to "work" part time and when they feel like it.

They might have a baby to take care of so can only "work" sporadically.

They might need only enough money to pay the rent, so they "work" only when the rent is due.

Yes, there are a lot of freelancers who are unattractive, but they certainly are not all hanging out on Beach Road. I've met a lot of cuties there who just don't like working at bars.

Soi 6 has tons of skanks and only very few cuties to be found with much persistence. In short, Soi 6 is no better than Beach Road. The hundreds of beer bars all over Pattaya are mostly populated by plain janes with an occaisional cutie sprinkled here and there. Walking Street freelancers are no better in overall appearence than Beach girls IMHO.

The key to success in Pattaya is the sheer number of available girls everywhere, many of whom are real cuties, and a significant amount who are stunners. Of course, that is the case with the general population of women, not just working girls.

It is easier to find a looker in the best go-go's, because that is where they tend to congragate, but even the very best of them ... Happy, SuperBaby, SuperGirl, etc., display their share of dogs.

IMHO, if a guy can't find girls to his taste in Pattaya, he is unlikely to find one very often anywhere.

BTW -- how long has it been since you've gone to Happy? The draft beers are now 59b, no longer 55b.

And p4p prices have gone up over the last 3 years. Cuties at Happy were satisfied with 1000b ST not that long ago, but now, as you say, they want 1,5000b. Any cutie you find on Soi 6 will now hold fast for 700b, no longer 500b.

Goyave
11-22-09, 08:37
Who could tell from some of these photos...

Moreover, I never said that the girls on these pictures were "hot". You guys should read the texts that come along with these photos / video captures.

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=827045#post827045
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=820583#post820583
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=822740#post822740
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=820577#post820577
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=820571#post820571
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=820563#post820563
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=819451#post819451
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=819453#post819453
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=875498#post875498

Cunning Stunt
11-22-09, 08:49
Not sure why there's a WTF attached to your post. What, we're not allowed to have our own taste unless we post photos? Man, I'm glad you don't write the forum rules.

Hope you're not one of the bar-beer denial-goggles contingent.

Twas purely a rhetorical question, mate, so no need to get your knickers twisted. I have now replaced the exclamation mark with a question mark, as intended.

I’m fascinated by this question how one mans hot chick can be another mans hot dog. Last week I posted photos of a girlfriend that I considered pretty hot but which several members assured me was not hot at all. A much greater number of members assured me that she was red hot and begged me for her details. So who is right and who need new optics? Although I did spot the common denominator amongst the naysayers in that they were regular and frequent posters who seldom post their own photos. Is this a factor and why?

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=125191

I know its an impossibly subjective question but surely there should be more consensus about WTF is hot and what is not? Or maybe not:eek:

Cunning Stunt
11-22-09, 08:57
They are not the hottest girls one can find in the Land of Smiles (not even in Pattaya) and you've missed a few other ones by the way (and not the worst looking ones!). I would rate those on a scale ranging from 6.5 to 8/10, but some photos and video captures do not give them justice. And none of them charged me more than 500 baht ST or 1000 LT (I paid even less for girls working in a brothel).

I value chemistry with the girl more than her looks, but one can find better looking girls than those even on Beach Road or in local brothels almost everywhere in Thailand.

Well of course, we can only judge on the photos you show, although personally I would not have kicked any of them out of bed and thought that two were quite 'hot'. You ought to see the state of some of the dogs whose photos I have posted;). Whats it fucking matter as long as you had a good time and enjoyed yourself.

What does wind me up a little is those assholes who never post photos of their own but always have something negative to say about the photos of braver, more generous members who do.

Goyave
11-22-09, 09:18
Well of course, we can only judge on the photos you show, although personally I would not have kicked any of them out of bed and thought that two were quite 'hot'...

Actually, I don't have any photo so far of a girl that I consider being really "hot", but the attached picture features one that I would rate with a solid 8/10 (so, for me, she's very cute, but not a "real stunner") and she's more representative of what is my current taste in local women. By the way, I've found this one some time ago in a cheap brothel, so, IMHO, you don't always have to pay much to find a good-looking girl...

LukeSkyWanker
11-22-09, 11:00
[QUOTE=Bill Miami]

The girls that are regulars on beach-road are there because they can't get jobs at bars for one reason or another. These might be one or all of the following, they are thefts, they have some kind of sexual disease, including aids, they are almost assuredly drug addicts, or they are simply crazy.

Sorry Bill, I have to disagree with you also on the above. I had a spell sampling the wares of beach road, many were working in the sweat shops of Rayong and came to Pattaya on their day off to earn extra cash. I know some of the skanks would use this as a cover story for their being there in the first place. I got friendly with a beach road girl once and saw her a few times I even took her back to work (Rayong) and saw her the following week. Many people will discourage you from the beach road scene and some of the reasons given are valid, however GoGo bar owners, Beer bar owners will try to slate beach road as (they) the middle man are being cut out. I will be back in 2 weeks to survey beach road, has anyone checked out beach road in Jomtien recently?

May the force be with you.

Italy 1974
11-22-09, 11:18
Taxi is the only option.

Italy 1974


Will be flying into Bangkok next week around midnight. I understand there are buses that leave directly from the airport to Pattaya. Does anyone know if the run through the night? Can I hop on a bus at 1am?

Wendella
11-22-09, 12:50
Twas purely a rhetorical question, mate, so no need to get your knickers twisted. I have now replaced the exclamation mark with a question mark, as intended.

I’m fascinated by this question how one mans hot chick can be another mans hot dog. Last week I posted photos of a girlfriend that I considered pretty hot but which several members assured me was not hot at all. A much greater number of members assured me that she was red hot and begged me for her details. So who is right and who need new optics? Although I did spot the common denominator amongst the naysayers in that they were regular and frequent posters who seldom post their own photos. Is this a factor and why?

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=125191

I know its an impossibly subjective question but surely there should be more consensus about WTF is hot and what is not? Or maybe not:eek:

Don't worry, they're not twisted. I'm from America. We don't wear knickers here. Not since the 1930s. These days they're mainly worn in the NFL.

Anyway the topic at hand... Yes I saw the Filipino you posted earlier. In that one shot you just linked she does look like she's an 8 - 8.5, but it's just a face shot, and I seem to remember the pix of her body didn't quite look as great as this one. It's not a natural pose, this one, so again it might be misleading.

As for Goyaye's "hot" girl, the last one, I'd agree she's a solid 8. (Um, hey, you have her contact info? ;) ) (just kidding)

I'm the opposite, type, by the way, don't rate attitude over looks. Looks over attitude for me. Just can't get excited if she doesn't look at least 8ish or so. I dont' need a girl every night. Prefer to go without until I find one worth taking.

I have a feeling it's genetic, this difference. I think some of us tend to spread the seed wide (find more girls attractive) and others more narrowly (picky). I think the hotter a girl is, the less disagreement you find. Easy to know who those are: everyone finds them hot. If just 50% do, that's not the one. But then you get those denial types who'll say, I don't find Marilyn Monroe (or whoever, some girl who's irrefutably universally hot) the least bit attractive; I prefer Pim here (everyone turns to look at the pockmarked 30ish overweight chick at the bar with the droopy boobies and the one gold tooth)

OK you guys passed the test, neither of you are that type. ;)

Wendella
11-22-09, 13:02
What does wind me up a little is those assholes who never post photos of their own but always have something negative to say about the photos of braver, more generous members who do.

If you post photos, you have to expect they're gonna get commented on. This is a forum. That's what people do here. What do you expect? There's no rule saying guys have to post photos before they can make comments. It has nothing to do with how daring you are. If you don't like getting negative comments, well, it's probbly not a great idea to post photos here then. Negative comments are absolutely inevitable. Some at least. If you want a place where only people who take photos can speak, you should join a photo club. Thats not where you are now.

I guess you could post them along with a message saying: "OK you're only allowed to comment if 1. you want to say something positive or 2. you post pictures yourself."

Then again, you could avoid it also by just posting pics of hot chicks. ;)

Goyave
11-22-09, 13:30
...
As for Goyaye's "hot" girl, the last one, I'd agree she's a solid 8. (Um, hey, you have her contact info? ;) ) (just kidding)
...

I didn't say that this one is "hot" either, just "very cute", but thanks for agreeing on the mark I gave her. I've met some really hot girls on several occasions, but alas, didn't have my camera or was not allowed to take even a single photo then.

More often than not, those stunners were not great performers, but if you want to know where I've found (among girls available in the P4P market) the best looking girls (according to me) so far in Thailand, it was in Nong Khai one year ago, on Sukpracha Road, at a place located near a parking lot and that is open only when the night has fallen. I haven't been there recently (I mean, late enough in the evening), but when I have the opportunity, I will check this place again and report in the I-San section of this forum. A couple of girls working there were really deserving a 9 or 9.5/10 for their looks (at least for me and people who have a similar taste in local women).

Amjeck
11-22-09, 13:56
The hundreds of beer bars all over Pattaya are mostly populated by plain janes with an occaisional cutie sprinkled here and there. Walking Street freelancers are no better in overall appearence than Beach girls IMHO.
--100% accurate.
--Also, lots of the beach girls end up going to walking street later in the night



It is easier to find a looker in the best go-go's, because that is where they tend to congragate, but even the very best of them ... Happy, SuperBaby, SuperGirl, etc., display their share of dogs.

Agree, and they've gotten worse over the last few years. A lot of the girls are getting fat, too

Basically the stunners don't have to work in the bars anymore. They have rich foreign sponsors. Or, if they are really hot, they are plucked by the rich thais before ever entering the p4p scene.
It's not the end of the world, but things are changing


And p4p prices have gone up over the last 3 years. Cuties at Happy were satisfied with 1000b ST not that long ago, but now, as you say, they want 1,5000b. Any cutie you find on Soi 6 will now hold fast for 700b, no longer 500b.
Yep, prices are up across the board in general.

Amjeck
11-22-09, 14:12
The best deal without question, are the free-lancers on walking street after 11PM or so. There price is 500 for ST and 1,000 for LT. I always look for one that dresses nice, not smutty like so many of them do.

That way there is a good chance she has a real job, they are the best. I always also like to find out if they just came down from Bangkok, there really good too.


What age group?

What do you mean "real job"? You still giving her money for sex?

I've found that girls in their mid/late 20's to early 30's to be the easiest market to work in terms of free/cheap sex. These girls are all past their prime and will gladly take a man, provided you're not a freak. I get offers from these types often, but never take them up. I'm not into old women. But for those of you who are, keep this in mind.

LittleBigMan
11-22-09, 16:10
Bill Miami,

I live in Pattaya, and although you have made great contribution it is surprising this comes from you. Your statement about beach road is shocking and so general and naive that I won't even respond to it. But I will say that even cows on Beach road roam to Walking Street after 11pm and Walking Street entrance is at the end of Beach Rd! I see no barrier there! And now even the LadyBoys from Beach Road are hitting Jomtien Beach. Living here or not how can anyone ever know where anyone is coming from.....?

There use to be a site whats hot / whats not? something like that? people would post pictures and people would rate them. After you can see the rating and what is surprising is how the rating vary so much. What might be a 10 to one person is only a 8 and when it comes to putting a number behind the women it just open up a endless conversation that no one is every going to agree! Goyave posted a very nice photo or a girl rating her a (8) and I was thinking tonight I bumped into a girl at a bar and after seeing his post on the (8) the girl I ran into must be a 10, and if Goyave saw her he might say she is a (8). The conversation about rating is a endless non-issue! If you don't have to put a bag over her face just f--k it! Sometimes we should look in the mirror before we go out and get a reality check! Just because we are the payor doesn't mean they aren't rating us? Wonder why the girls are always talking and laughing while you walk by?

LBM

Goyave
11-22-09, 18:22
... There use to be a site whats hot / whats not? something like that? people would post pictures and people would rate them...

I guess it's this one: http://www.whoshotornot.com/


... What might be a 10 to one person is only a 8 and when it comes to putting a number behind the women it just open up a endless conversation that no one is every going to agree! Goyave posted a very nice photo or a girl rating her a (8) and I was thinking tonight I bumped into a girl at a bar and after seeing his post on the (8) the girl I ran into must be a 10, and if Goyave saw her he might say she is a (8)...

I never said that my own ratings are not subjective (most of the times, I add "according to me" or "in my humble opinion" when I'm giving a mark). I also might rate some girls very differently than other people who simply never had the opportunity to see them in the nude. And I might also give different ratings for the same girl at various stages of our "relationship". Some girls look better (and for others, it's quite the opposite) with a certain attire and make-up, but are very disappointing once naked and after a shower.

And a good photographer (even without altering the resulting picture with Photoshop or another software) can make you believe on paper that one girl is a stunner, but when you meet her in the real life, she's just cute or slightly above average. One of my ex-girlfriends in France is an actress (she mainly plays in theaters), and she doesn't look the same on the pictures from her casting portfolio than in the real life. When she was in her early twenties, I would have rated her with a solid 7.5/10, but looking at her professional photo album only, many people would have thought that she deserved at least a 9/10 then. The difference between those ratings is mainly due to the photographer's talent and a good lighting...

That being said, I'm a very bad photographer, so, that's why I wrote that some of my pictures don't do justice to the girls! But I hope that most readers now can imagine at least what is a cute girl according to me.

Again, to each his own, but I'd still rather fuck a 7/10 (and these girls are pretty easy to find) with a great attitude than a real stunner who is a starfish. Of course, if the stunner is also a very good performer, she certainly has my preference!

Bill Miami
11-22-09, 18:40
Let me clarify my statement on beach road and its girls. This is the way I should have wrote it the first time and it would not have become an issue. Hopefully, this will put this to rest.

I 100% agree that not all the girls that work on beach road are drug addicts, thieves, crazy or have some kind of sexually transmitted disease. But, the percentage is high enough that for 300 Baht, which is the bar fine at a beer bar or Soi 6 it is not worth the risk to me to avoid these problems.

As for the prices at Happy's or any of the top Go-Go bars for the 6 years I have been it has been 1,500 for ST. End of discussion on this issue, if anybody suggest anything different I am not responding, as your simply wrong. And Buda knows I have spent enough to know this one.

That does not mean before or now you can't get a girl for 1,000 ST out of these bars.

I have said the following before and I will state this again.

I don't negotiate with Thai girls, if they are asking the standard price. For those of you that are new here or are coming on vacation, the reason for this reaches deep into the Thai mentality.

In many cases, they would rather sit there, and this is for any profession and do nothing and make no money, rather than work for a little less than the standard rate. They fell cheated, if they do something for less than they got paid the last time. Why, I don't know, but that is the way it is.

If a taxi driver gets 150 Baht for a certain ride and has not made 1 Baht that day, and you offer 100 Baht, most times they will say no. If they do happen to say yes, they will ***** and moan the entire time about how much they are supposed to get paid, so once again it is just not worth it to me.

As for negotiating with the girls, since the amount of fun you are going to have is directly related to the girls, I never offer to pay them less than the standard rate. I want the girls in a good mood, happy and on there A game.

I also don't pay them more than the standard rate either, unless I am too drunk or they are too hot.

As for the prices on Soi 6, they are 500 for ST, end of discussion once again. Yes, some of the girls will ask for 700 Baht. All you have to do is say something like this, "I heard the price is 500." And virtually every one of them will take it, if not, who cares, there are 1,000 more that will.

In all the time I have been on that street, which might be 1,000 or more I have only had 1 girl hold out for 700. However, let me clarify this once more, to end any potential conflict.

As I mentioned before, I always offer to buy the girl a drink before I take her. I do this because I want to get to know her a little and make sure I like her, she likes me and she is a happy person and fun to be around.

So, by doing this the girl has made a little money off the drink I have bought her. Maybe that is the reason I don't have a problem, I don't know. Also, I am usually not drunk out of my mind, I am polite, I don't stink and I am usually laughing and joking around. This could also be a reason I don't have a problem.

As for the cuties on Soi 6, please anybody that implies you can't find super hotties there; well we have different opinions of the girls then. Also, for whatever reason this seems to be the place quite a few of the new girls just in town for the first time end up.

If you're down there as much as I am, you can even watch there transition from a native village girl to a savvy Soi 6 worker in a matter of months. They start out shy, not saying much, dressing very conservatively, too vociferous, arm grabbing, wildly dressing girls in a very short time.

Amjeck
11-22-09, 20:08
As for the prices at Happy's or any of the top Go-Go bars for the 6 years I have been it has been 1,500 for ST. End of discussion on this issue, if anybody suggest anything different I am not responding, as your simply wrong. And Buda knows I have spent enough to know this one.


I'll bite.

I've had plenty from the top gogos for 1000 ST over the years and so have my friends, but latley it's tougher to get this price. And no, I'm not wrong! Maybe it's 1500ST for you because you are you.

LittleBigMan
11-23-09, 02:36
Goyave,

Didn't mean to come across as being a critic to your rating but my point which was unclear was to basically say that we all use some type of rating and each time someone will see something else. It's funny but maybe as people say " Beauty is in the eyes of the beholder "


LBM

Goyave
11-23-09, 02:43
Goyave,

Didn't mean to come across as being a critic to your rating but my point which was unclear was to basically say that we all use some type of rating and each time someone will see something else. It's funny but maybe as people say " Beauty is in the eyes of the beholder "


LBM

Don't worry, LBM, it was clear enough, but I just wanted to mention some of the reasons why people might rate a girl differently than the photographer by only looking at a few pictures.

Wendella
11-23-09, 05:43
I didn't say that this one is "hot" either, just "very cute", but thanks for agreeing on the mark I gave her. I've met some really hot girls on several occasions, but alas, didn't have my camera or was not allowed to take even a single photo then.


Sounds good, about the Isaan info. Where was that again?

Ok yes she's borderline hot in my book. Sorry, no you didn't say that. I'd said I woudln't call anyone under an 8 "hot" then you posted that you rated her an 8, I think that's how I ended up referring to her as hot.

Wendella
11-23-09, 05:55
I guess it's this one: http://www.whoshotornot.com/

It'd be cool to see a Thai girl site like that, rather than American porn-star wannabes. Have guys vote on all the pics. Only problem is that it's so prone to being distorted by spam-types who'd do multiple votes to boost this one or that one, so probably couldnt' get an accurate reading. They've done studies like this though. Saw one on Discovery where they took a big photo album of photos from country to country doing surveys, rating attractiveness on a scale. Just face though.


I never said that my own ratings are not subjective (most of the times, I add "according to me" or "in my humble opinion" when I'm giving a mark).

Actually I think you said this:


my own ratings are not subjective

OK maybe I've quoted it a bit out of context. ;)

Mistral66
11-23-09, 06:58
This whole discussion about stunner and hot or not hot has confused me quite a bit.

Just for me as a reality check, what do you think?

Ssidewineder
11-23-09, 07:14
Bill Miami makes some good observations on the Beach Road situation, like the unfortunate increase in lowlife Thai males along the beach (actually the wholetown) in the past 3 years.

Regarding the girls there, sure alot of them are messed up and couldn't work in bar if they wanted to. But I've questioned alot of them on why they don't want to work in a bar, including go-go quality girls.

And the main reasons are they don't want to be commited to a schedual and

They have problems with the other girls in the bar "talking to much"

In general these are pretty rowdy ladies and it doesn't take much to set off a fight.

Also there is a constant ebb and flow of girls from all over that cruise down to work on the beach for a few days, weeks or months: holidaday hookers.

Crazy4Thai
11-23-09, 16:03
I'm getting this info from a family member - not my own personal experience.

It seems this 21 yo, Som, just went to Pattaya 2 days ago from Bangkok. She couldn't seem to get interested in keeping the various sweatshop jobs and kept running off with a variety of Thai men.

Her mom suggested that she might be perfect for working a bar. She agreed and a couple of calls were made.

If this sounds good to you, go to the muay thai ring on Walking Street, ask for the new lady from Bangkok, Som, either in bar #16 or #17. Sorry about that vague part.

She does not speak English. She apparently likes sex. Make her glad she found her calling.

Annnnnd - do report here to let us all know if she's worth "training"

c4t

Run Mann
11-23-09, 16:59
This whole discussion about stunner and hot or not hot has confused me quite a bit.

Just for me as a reality check, what do you think?
So now you want to be confused even more? I rate her somewhere between 6 to 7 but more importantly what was her performance rating in bed?

Mistral66
11-23-09, 23:38
Run Mann, D Cups

I guess the discussion before was related to looks only, at least what I understood but anyway for me the girl is a 8 and performance as well as the attitude were even better.

But thx for the responses, I really do understand now!

Cunning Stunt
11-24-09, 02:02
I think that a wily old Bangkok taxi driver summed it up when we were discussing Pattaya. 'Full old lady, no can make money Bangkok'. Next time you are eating breakfast at your hotel, look up from your cornflakes and actually see some of the horror stories that the average tourist Joe travels half way around the world to poke. On second thoughts don't, it will put you off your food:).

The rating system can be safely thrown out of the window for about 70% of Pattaya providers - unless minus ratings are permitted.

Daddy07
11-24-09, 03:12
I think that a wily old Bangkok taxi driver summed it up when we were discussing Pattaya. 'Full old lady, no can make money Bangkok'...
Right ... I bet you always trust those "wily old Bangkok taxi drivers," for the truth about everything, don't you? ;)

Cunning Stunt
11-24-09, 04:28
Right ... I bet you always trust those "wily old Bangkok taxi drivers," for the truth about everything, don't you? ;)

Too bloody right! – the average Bangkok taxi driver has forgotten more about the ‘scene’ in Thailand than most of us will ever know:D.

Naked Gunz
11-24-09, 06:54
After seeing pics of the "famous"Na in the gallery, I finally ran into her, but came away from the experiance disappointed. She is very HARDCORE! I felt like I was in the states with a crack ho!Her english is very good; how many pricks do you have to inhale to get fluent? She cut all that hair off! She smoked (and in my room while I showered which pissed me off). When she walks Beach rd. she is at a full sprint like she is on a mission for that next customer. I only banged her from behind because that's all I could stand, and only got pics of her ass, which to me is her last asset.Not worth posting.
Said guys on the internet were talking shit about her, (yes me too)!
That woman is on slippery slope and I hope she saved all the money and bought a farm or something.

The Scout
11-24-09, 07:23
I only banged her from behind because that's all I could standHahaha! I laughed at this line because I'm sure we've all been there.

Mr Enforcer
11-24-09, 08:34
That's Tammy alright!

She can suck a tennis ball through 50 feet of garden hose.Tammy at the Yellow House in Jomtien has just given me a sensational blowjob. This girl is a real gem. For all those blowjob affectionatos, you must go and try her. There are photos in this photo section somewhere of her as well.

Patty Boy
11-24-09, 10:43
Hi all,

I've just spent my first week in Pattaya, with one more to go, and it has so far been an interesting experience to say the least. I am not a good writer, and this might be a boring read for most, but I just wanted to express my thoughts on my trip so far.

As a total newbie for the first couple days, I ended up overpaying for everything. On the first night, I ended up going to a bar that was just across the street from my hotel (Eastiny Plaza). Like the nice guy I am, having a hard time saying no, I ended up buying several rounds of drinks for any lady that asked, and I also ended up barfining a girl from there. All rookie mistakes I now know. Now I have to pass by everyday when going back to my hotel, and they are constantly trying to drag me back into their bar so they can charge me outrageous lady drink prices of 160 baht per drink. At first I was stupid enough to go in each time, now no more. Unfortunately, first couple days I also overpaid for the women. Day 1: soapy massage on soi 2 for 2500 baht, soi 8 girl LT for 1500 baht barfine + girl. Day 2: soi 6 girl LT for 2000 baht! Yeah I probably should have done a little more research in advance, but I was just too excited to get out the gate.

On Day 3 I started realizing that if they like you enough, you don't have to pay anything for the girls. The combination of being Asian, American-born, decent looking, and in my 20s put me in good standing with most thai girls. Apparently there are not that many Asian Americans who take vacations to Pattaya, so they loved the American accent on a decent looking Asian man (whom maybe they could identify better with than a non-asian)? I don't know if it is those factors, but I am thinking that if you are younger and decent looking, no matter the race, you could probably have practically a free sex holiday in Pattaya. I realized this on day 3 when a girl on soi 6 practically begged me to take her with her, and that she would pay her own bar fine. I was hesitant but agreed. It ended up being some of the best sex I've had in my life. Since then, I haven't been paying a baht, other than for food and other random entertainment. I have been making the rounds in soi 6, and various discos for freebies, so that I have been able to offset the amounts I overpaid at the initial part of my vacation. Obviously, not every girl will be willing to go for free, but surprisingly many will. Also, I have to admit (perhaps a bit embarrassed) that I feel like a fucking celebrity or something when walking down the street and every girl is crying out to me by name to spend some time with them.

I have to admit that I had my reservations prior to arriving in Thailand. Before coming, I have been browsing these forums and the women posted in the pictures were not necessarily my type (perhaps because I am Asian and I have difference standards of beauty for Asian women?). However, after spending several days here, I have to say that there are a good number of stunning looking women. For me personally, I can't really imagine too many other places with women that would be more attractive to me, since the general fashion sense (clothes, hair, etc) for women in Thailand match what I like in a woman. Also, it is impossible not to leave Thailand without making many friends, both thai and other tourists.

Which brings me to the last part of my post. Upon arriving in Pattaya, I had intended to have a full 2 weeks of sex with a different woman each night, maybe several different women per day. I got off to a pretty good start, but I met a bar girl that I fell for and now I am having a hard time finding the desire to be with anyone else, despite all the hot girls here. I know that it is complete bullshit and irrational, but I had a hard time helping my emotions. I understand that once I leave Pattaya, we will probably never see each other again, as I don't really intend on coming back any time soon. I understand that she is a hooker, and that she has other customers, but it doesn't really faze me. However, for my remaining time here, I just want to be with her. I think she likes me too, and maybe for real? I have not paid a single baht to her for the time that she spent with me, and when we went to the disco, she turned down a customer who was offering her 3000 baht ST so that she could spend the time with me. She has paid for everything, movies, food, drinks, and refuses to allow me to pay. I felt pretty horrible because I know money comes easier to me than it does to her, and I tried sneaking 5000 baht in her purse when she went to the toilet. When she found out, she got pissed and slapped me. Maybe you who are more experienced here have comments or advice on this.

Feedback appreciated.

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Leo2000
11-24-09, 18:07
Hi all,

I've just spent my first week in Pattaya, with one more to go, and it has so far been an interesting experience to say the least. I am not a good writer, and this might be a boring read for most, but I just wanted to express my thoughts on my trip so far.

As a total newbie for the first couple days, I ended up overpaying for everything. On the first night, I ended up going to a bar that was just across the street from my hotel (Eastiny Plaza). Like the nice guy I am, having a hard time saying no, I ended up buying several rounds of drinks for any lady that asked, and I also ended up barfining a girl from there. All rookie mistakes I now know. Now I have to pass by everyday when going back to my hotel, and they are constantly trying to drag me back into their bar so they can charge me outrageous lady drink prices of 160 baht per drink. At first I was stupid enough to go in each time, now no more. Unfortunately, first couple days I also overpaid for the women. Day 1: soapy massage on soi 2 for 2500 baht, soi 8 girl LT for 1500 baht barfine + girl. Day 2: soi 6 girl LT for 2000 baht! Yeah I probably should have done a little more research in advance, but I was just too excited to get out the gate.

On Day 3 I started realizing that if they like you enough, you don't have to pay anything for the girls. The combination of being Asian, American-born, decent looking, and in my 20s put me in good standing with most thai girls. Apparently there are not that many Asian Americans who take vacations to Pattaya, so they loved the American accent on a decent looking Asian man (whom maybe they could identify better with than a non-asian)? I don't know if it is those factors, but I am thinking that if you are younger and decent looking, no matter the race, you could probably have practically a free sex holiday in Pattaya. I realized this on day 3 when a girl on soi 6 practically begged me to take her with her, and that she would pay her own bar fine. I was hesitant but agreed. It ended up being some of the best sex I've had in my life. Since then, I haven't been paying a baht, other than for food and other random entertainment. I have been making the rounds in soi 6, and various discos for freebies, so that I have been able to offset the amounts I overpaid at the initial part of my vacation. Obviously, not every girl will be willing to go for free, but surprisingly many will. Also, I have to admit (perhaps a bit embarrassed) that I feel like a fucking celebrity or something when walking down the street and every girl is crying out to me by name to spend some time with them.

I have to admit that I had my reservations prior to arriving in Thailand. Before coming, I have been browsing these forums and the women posted in the pictures were not necessarily my type (perhaps because I am Asian and I have difference standards of beauty for Asian women?). However, after spending several days here, I have to say that there are a good number of stunning looking women. For me personally, I can't really imagine too many other places with women that would be more attractive to me, since the general fashion sense (clothes, hair, etc) for women in Thailand match what I like in a woman. Also, it is impossible not to leave Thailand without making many friends, both thai and other tourists.

Which brings me to the last part of my post. Upon arriving in Pattaya, I had intended to have a full 2 weeks of sex with a different woman each night, maybe several different women per day. I got off to a pretty good start, but I met a bar girl that I fell for and now I am having a hard time finding the desire to be with anyone else, despite all the hot girls here. I know that it is complete bullshit and irrational, but I had a hard time helping my emotions. I understand that once I leave Pattaya, we will probably never see each other again, as I don't really intend on coming back any time soon. I understand that she is a hooker, and that she has other customers, but it doesn't really faze me. However, for my remaining time here, I just want to be with her. I think she likes me too, and maybe for real? I have not paid a single baht to her for the time that she spent with me, and when we went to the disco, she turned down a customer who was offering her 3000 baht ST so that she could spend the time with me. She has paid for everything, movies, food, drinks, and refuses to allow me to pay. I felt pretty horrible because I know money comes easier to me than it does to her, and I tried sneaking 5000 baht in her purse when she went to the toilet. When she found out, she got pissed and slapped me. Maybe you who are more experienced here have comments or advice on this.

Feedback appreciated.

EDITOR'S NOTE: I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php) for more information.All the new bees fall like u. My advice is just enjoy the holiday befote you start sending money every month. Mate hear from the horse's month I am of Indian orgin but spent more than 2 decades living in US & rest of world.

If your on holiday it is holiday. Like your working or in business. It is there business to get hold of clients. Your still young thinking your are Brand Pitts, LOS is all money specialy in low times now.

Cheers

Fun And Sun
11-24-09, 19:25
After seeing pics of the "famous"Na in the gallery, I finally ran into her, but came away from the experiance disappointed. She is very HARDCORE! I felt like I was in the states with a crack ho!Her english is very good; how many pricks do you have to inhale to get fluent? She cut all that hair off! She smoked (and in my room while I showered which pissed me off). When she walks Beach rd. she is at a full sprint like she is on a mission for that next customer. I only banged her from behind because that's all I could stand, and only got pics of her ass, which to me is her last asset.Not worth posting.
Said guys on the internet were talking shit about her, (yes me too)!
That woman is on slippery slope and I hope she saved all the money and bought a farm or something.

I would say "infamous" Na, rather than "famous" Na... :)

I couldn't get my self to bang her, even from behind in her present state, but she's had a lot of practice giving head so did a fine job at that when I saw her.

Fun And Sun
11-24-09, 19:35
Hi all,

Which brings me to the last part of my post. Upon arriving in Pattaya, I had intended to have a full 2 weeks of sex with a different woman each night, maybe several different women per day. I got off to a pretty good start, but I met a bar girl that I fell for and now I am having a hard time finding the desire to be with anyone else, despite all the hot girls here. I know that it is complete bullshit and irrational, but I had a hard time helping my emotions. I understand that once I leave Pattaya, we will probably never see each other again, as I don't really intend on coming back any time soon. I understand that she is a hooker, and that she has other customers, but it doesn't really faze me. However, for my remaining time here, I just want to be with her. I think she likes me too, and maybe for real? I have not paid a single baht to her for the time that she spent with me, and when we went to the disco, she turned down a customer who was offering her 3000 baht ST so that she could spend the time with me. She has paid for everything, movies, food, drinks, and refuses to allow me to pay. I felt pretty horrible because I know money comes easier to me than it does to her, and I tried sneaking 5000 baht in her purse when she went to the toilet. When she found out, she got pissed and slapped me. Maybe you who are more experienced here have comments or advice on this.

Feedback appreciated.

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IMHO:

1. Is hanging out with the same chick the thing you want from your trip? If so you should go for it I would say. Personally I am all for repeats with a good experience, ideally together with one of her friends... but I think a key part of why mongering is fun is that you can butterfly around. Girlfriends/mistresses/wives are for back home...

2. If you don't bang other chicks on your trip you will regret it when you get back home, trust me.

3. She *will* call you two/three weeks after you get home with a story about her needing surgery/her sister needing bla bla bla/pick your emergency and only you can help, can you only send USD xyz as a loan, she will pay you back...

Am sure that others will have different thoughts, this is just my two cents.

Goyave
11-24-09, 22:14
... She *will* call you two/three weeks after you get home with a story about her needing surgery/her sister needing bla bla bla/pick your emergency and only you can help, can you only send USD xyz as a loan, she will pay you back...


Or she's looking for a foreign husband... or a sponsor who will send her a monthly allowance (allegedly in order to stop working in a bar while waiting him)... or might just expect a very nice gift (gold jewel for instance).

Freebies in the Land of Smiles are very seldom "free" in the long term, even for young and handsome men. ;)

If someone doesn't want to be committed anyhow to a Thai girl, it's better to avoid freebies or he will probably have a hard time at a later stage when he wants to get rid of his fiancee (at least, that's what she will believe she is)!

Goyave
11-24-09, 23:15
..
I guess the discussion before was related to looks only, at least what I understood but anyway for me the girl is a 8 and performance as well as the attitude were even better...

Sorry, Mistral66, but if we are speaking about her looks only, I won't be as generous as you (at least, based on the picture you submitted). I can't see her body very well on your photo, alas, and I might think that she looks better in the real life, but apparently, she's not really my type of girl nowadays. Don't get me wrong, she looks decent enough and I probably would have answered differently ten years ago, but as I've lived in the Land of Smiles for several years, I don't think that this girl has something particular, and she's not of the kind that I would notice immediately in a crowd. She looks very ordinary to me, and her skin seems to be much darker than what I like usually in this country (but if she has a great body, I wouldn't mind!), therefore, she just deserves a 6/10 mark in my humble opinion (but again, I can't judge her body on your photo, so, I might have seriously underrated her even according to my own criteria).

But to each his own... you like her and as you said that her performance and attitude are great, that's what really counts and it matters more than the subjective ratings of people who haven't meet her in the real life...

Phantomtiger2
11-25-09, 01:20
Hi all,


Which brings me to the last part of my post. Upon arriving in Pattaya, I had intended to have a full 2 weeks of sex with a different woman each night, maybe several different women per day. I got off to a pretty good start, but I met a bar girl that I fell for and now I am having a hard time finding the desire to be with anyone else, despite all the hot girls here. I know that it is complete bullshit and irrational, but I had a hard time helping my emotions. I understand that once I leave Pattaya, we will probably never see each other again, as I don't really intend on coming back any time soon. I understand that she is a hooker, and that she has other customers, but it doesn't really faze me. However, for my remaining time here, I just want to be with her. I think she likes me too, and maybe for real? I have not paid a single baht to her for the time that she spent with me, and when we went to the disco, she turned down a customer who was offering her 3000 baht ST so that she could spend the time with me. She has paid for everything, movies, food, drinks, and refuses to allow me to pay. I felt pretty horrible because I know money comes easier to me than it does to her, and I tried sneaking 5000 baht in her purse when she went to the toilet. When she found out, she got pissed and slapped me. Maybe you who are more experienced here have comments or advice on this.

Feedback appreciated.

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Had a similar experience several years ago in LOS. It was in Chiang Mai and not in Patts. Woman I met also won't take a baht from me and almost treated me to everything. In the end, we exchanged phone #'s but she never called me for anything, she only said for me to call her whenever I returned to see her. Sadly, I lost her # and so never went back to CM.
So, everything depends on the gal in question as I was very lucky, perhaps it will be the case for you too.
but as others had pointed out, if later she decides to call you with sob stories then you know it was just an act on her part and just say to yourself ok, at least I got a freebie out of that and move on.


PT

NicFrenchy
11-25-09, 02:11
I am thinking that if you are younger and decent looking, no matter the race, you could probably have practically a free sex holiday in Pattaya.
This is not only true for Pattaya, everywhere in Thailand :D


I met a bar girl that I fell for and now I am having a hard time finding the desire to be with anyone else,

oh boy...


I understand that she is a hooker, and that she has other customers, but it doesn't really faze me. However, for my remaining time here, I just want to be with her. I think she likes me too, and maybe for real?

It is very possible that girls take a liking to you, for real. The issue is, would you want to start a serious relationship with someone who sucks cock for a living?
If the answer is yes, then good luck (and I mean it), but if the answer is no, Pay her, make it clear that you are not looking for a relationship. These girls are human and are sometimes looking for more than a customer... when they think they have found one, they offer themselves for free (which automatically makes you their boyfriend in their mind).

Be clear with her and don't take advantage of her, there are already too many of these assholes down in Pattaya.


I have not paid a single baht to her for the time that she spent with me, and when we went to the disco, she turned down a customer who was offering her 3000 baht ST so that she could spend the time with me. She has paid for everything, movies, food, drinks, and refuses to allow me to pay. I felt pretty horrible because I know money comes easier to me than it does to her, and I tried sneaking 5000 baht in her purse when she went to the toilet. When she found out, she got pissed and slapped me.

She might consider you her Boyfriend now, if you want to make a gesture, take her shopping and buy her stuff, that way, it will not look like you are paying her for sex.

On another note, you maybe should stop hanging out in the prostitute areas... go to other regular places, there are a lot of non P4P girls that will be interested (trust me) and be ready to go out for a day/night of fun.
One thing I love about Thailand is that no matter if the girl has a boyfriend, kids, married.. a lot of them are always up for some fun. It used to be the guys who have "Giks" and have fun at the massage PArlors, but now the girls also start to fuck around :) (and they love Farangs).

Patty Boy
11-25-09, 10:24
I've read all of your responses and thank you all greatly for taking the time to respond to my post, and share a bit of your wisdom.

Believe me, I am a realistic and grounded kind of guy. I take a realistic view of relationships, especially ones I might have in a foreign country. I realize that after this week, I will be going home and I will probably never see my friend again, but while I am here, I do enjoy her time. I agree with your comments that part of the fun of coming to a place like Thailand is the ability to butterfly and meet many beautiful women, and that is what I originally came for. But everyone is different, and I guess personally I am not as sexually driven as some. After a while, simple sex becomes very mundane for me, and I need something a little more. Emotion and feeling. It is not overly difficult for me to sleep around back at home in the states. I tend to think with my head and not my dick head. Major flaw I guess that I cannot simply enjoy like many of you guys. I thought maybe Pattaya could change that part of me, but sadly it can't. I am not foolish enough to believe that this is a lasting relationship. In fact, I'm not sure when's the next time I will be back, if ever, since there are so many other places in the world I still need to C. Rather, I view the relationship as my way of enjoying my time in Pattaya and making it more meaningful. I won't forget my experience here, and I won't forget her.

Also, believe me that I will not be taken for a fool to be sending any monthly installments or such to anyone I meet in Thailand, no matter what. I had thought about how she might be refusing money and paying for everything just so she could use an "emergency" story down the road, and maybe I'm wrong given the newbie that I am, but I don't think this will be the case for several reasons:

I regularly joke with her about men who do end up sending monthly payments, and yes she does have a farang "bf" who does just that. I've made it pretty clear (through jokes or otherwise) that I would never be enticed to do anything like that with anyone I met in Thailand. I've also told her that although I like her a lot, our relationship is only for the duration of my trip, since I may never come back to Thailand again. I told her I would love to get her email so that we could stay friends afterwards, but she was hessitant in exchanging, since she said that it would make it harder for her to forget about me after I am gone, and it would be something she would need to do since I might not be returning. In any case, I don't believe that she will expect me to fall for any sob stories. In fact, I told her a few of the ones I read about online, and she could not believe this was my first trip to Thailand. She said that she thought I knew more about Thailand than she did, and to stop telling her these "bad" stories to corrupt her further!

NicFrenchy, that is a good idea about taking her shopping, or just buying her something, as a gesture. I will probably do that, since she won't accept anything else.

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PauloThai
11-25-09, 11:10
After seeing pics of the "famous"Na in the gallery, I finally ran into her, but came away from the experiance disappointed. She is very HARDCORE! I felt like I was in the states with a crack ho!Her english is very good; how many pricks do you have to inhale to get fluent? She cut all that hair off! She smoked (and in my room while I showered which pissed me off). When she walks Beach rd. she is at a full sprint like she is on a mission for that next customer. I only banged her from behind because that's all I could stand, and only got pics of her ass, which to me is her last asset.Not worth posting.

Said guys on the internet were talking shit about her, (yes me too)!

That woman is on slippery slope and I hope she saved all the money and bought a farm or something.Hi Naked Gunz,

I am afraid that your post is telling more about you then about Na.
It is low... the way and the words how you describe Na.

Moreover it is you telling us about your experiences in the states
where you seem to be frequently visiting your crack ho's.

If you realy knew about Na then you would never post like this and
this makes me think that you maybe did not even meet her.

You do not know anything about the "person" and "beauty" of Na.

Na was and in many ways still is a great girl !

Cheers !

Chachi420
11-25-09, 11:28
Or she's looking for a foreign husband... or a sponsor who will send her a monthly allowance (allegedly in order to stop working in a bar while waiting him)... or might just expect a very nice gift (gold jewel for instance).

Freebies in the Land of Smiles are very seldom "free" in the long term, even for young and handsome men. ;)

If someone doesn't want to be committed anyhow to a Thai girl, it's better to avoid freebies or he will probably have a hard time at a later stage when he wants to get rid of his fiancee (at least, that's what she will believe she is)!


I really can't understand how grown men can be so naive, as to sponsor a working girl in LOS.

At least 3 of the girls i banged in Pattaya told me they had western sponsors, who thought they were no longer working. One girl would ring her sponsor whilst giving me a HJ!

Goyave
11-25-09, 12:48
I really can't understand how grown men can be so naive, as to sponsor a working girl in LOS.

I don't know either... If somebody really wants to take care of a Thai girl, he must live with her in the Land of Smiles or in his own country on a daily basis; it won't grant for sure the girl's faithfulness, but it's the less risky solution. Sponsoring a girl living miles away is pure nonsense in my humble opinion. If you can't live daily with a P4P girl, just pay her when (and only when) you visit her.


At least 3 of the girls i banged in Pattaya told me they had western sponsors, who thought they were no longer working.

I lost count of the number of sponsored girls that I've banged in Pattaya, Bangkok or elsewhere during the past ten years, but it's probably a 3-digit number. Many among them have more than one simultaneous sponsor (and they are not only Westerners: some Japanese guys sponsor them too).


One girl would ring her sponsor whilst giving me a HJ!

I have fond memories of a girl that I gently sodomized while she was speaking on the phone with one of her sponsors. Priceless!

NicFrenchy
11-25-09, 12:52
I really can't understand how grown men can be so naive, as to sponsor a working girl in LOS.

At least 3 of the girls i banged in Pattaya told me they had western sponsors, who thought they were no longer working. One girl would ring her sponsor whilst giving me a HJ!

That's for you tourists LOL
for expats, we bang girls married to these poor sods for free :D
They are in Farangland and the girls are horny... so they hunt. they find an expat, and start to develop a relationship (GIK style). Most of the time, they don't tell they are married unless they really have to (explain a 3 month where you can't contact her... for example).

Borat69
11-25-09, 13:45
Hey guys

I'm heading over to Pattaya for a couple of days soon.

While I'll be looking for some hot thai babes, I would like to mix in some russians in between. I mean the blonde true blood Ruskis and not the CIS ubezkis.

Any experts in this area suggest where to go?

I hear Galaxy is decent along with the one next to it but is the going rate 3k-5k for ST?

Anywhere else? Just approaching on walking street?

How does the talent compare to say Rajah / CM2 in BKK also? There I paid 2600b but only once as talent was somewhat lacking.

Hoping to have better luck in Pattaya! :)

Sammon
11-25-09, 14:34
I really can't understand how grown men can be so naive, as to sponsor a working girl in LOS.

At least 3 of the girls i banged in Pattaya told me they had western sponsors, who thought they were no longer working. One girl would ring her sponsor whilst giving me a HJ!
I met a girl at beergarten who was 25 years old and fairly good looking. She had a german sponsor/BF who bought her a condo and a nice car. She stayed with me for a few days and she took me to lot of places. Was it free? No. I had to pay her 2000 Baht/day although she asked for more. I said I can get any girl to stay with me for 2000 B. Ofcourse I had to pay for gas, food etc. At the end i did take her shopping and bought her few clothes and gifts. She did not get that many calls from the German guy while we were together. She said he works for some company who does business in BKK and sometimes stays for a month. She does have a maid also and lives high style and wants to party and make more money on the side. Only reason I stopped seeing her is because I put a small dent on car bumper when I was driving drunk and she demanded something like 20,000 baht for it. I offered 5000 baht because it was a minor dent and can hardly see it. She said she needs to get it fixed before her BF comes into town. Well, being smart I checked out and went to pattaya and changed the sim card.

Diceman
11-25-09, 15:01
Hey guys

I'm heading over to Pattaya for a couple of days soon.

While I'll be looking for some hot thai babes, I would like to mix in some russians in between. I mean the blonde true blood Ruskis and not the CIS ubezkis.

Any experts in this area suggest where to go?

I hear Galaxy is decent along with the one next to it but is the going rate 3k-5k for ST?

Anywhere else? Just approaching on walking street?

How does the talent compare to say Rajah / CM2 in BKK also? There I paid 2600b but only once as talent was somewhat lacking.

Hoping to have better luck in Pattaya! :)Forget Pattaya for russky action son, you should know better stay away from the walking street place where the Russian girl dances in the fishbowl high in the main street, its total nonsense there. Maybe you can get the odd one on the streets, but they are not the best. Its not like Kiev my friend, and they have attitude to match. When you heading home? I'm due there 11th dec. New girl in wardour street BTW, names nelly from italy, lovely.

LittleBigMan
11-25-09, 15:42
I really can't understand how grown men can be so naive, as to sponsor a working girl in LOS.

At least 3 of the girls i banged in Pattaya told me they had western sponsors, who thought they were no longer working. One girl would ring her sponsor whilst giving me a HJ!

It's not that grown men are naive? When it comes to pussy in Pattaya and Thailand the littlehead does most of the thinking and if the littlehead tells the grown man to give he gives!

LBM

Monopoly
11-25-09, 17:36
Hi Guys,

Can anyone on the ground there now or recently been there, please give an objective update on how Pattaya is now?

For example, is Walking Street busy as usual? Are beer-bars out of W.S. busy? Are there many punters about? Are there many PRETTY ladies in go-go's and beer-bars? What are prices like for ST and LT? Any change from last year? Are hotels booked up? What is your overall impression of Pattaya at the moment?

Thanks!

Dr Poosey
11-25-09, 19:02
I don't know either. If somebody really wants to take care of a Thai girl, he must live with her in the Land of Smiles or in his own country on a daily basis; it won't grant for sure the girl's faithfulness, but it's the less risky solution. Sponsoring a girl living miles away is pure nonsense in my humble opinion. If you can't live daily with a P4P girl, just pay her when (and only when) you visit her.Right. Sponsoring a girl living miles away is stupid unless you are rich and even then, it's better to give it to charity. But still. If you live in your home country the girl (fiancee? Wife?) will still need you to send some money over.

And that's not smart too.

Run Mann
11-25-09, 23:18
Hi Naked Gunz,

I am afraid that your post is telling more about you then about Na.
It is low... the way and the words how you describe Na.

Moreover it is you telling us about your experiences in the states
where you seem to be frequently visiting your crack ho's.

If you realy knew about Na then you would never post like this and
this makes me think that you maybe did not even meet her.

You do not know anything about the "person" and "beauty" of Na.

Na was and in many ways still is a great girl !

Cheers !


Why are you so offended, are you in love with Na? Tell us about the "person" and the 'beauty of Na' and why she is so great.

PauloThai
11-26-09, 03:25
Why are you so offended, are you in love with Na? Tell us about the "person" and 'beauty of Na' and why she is so great. Hi Run Mann,

Yes, I like the "person" and the "beauty" of Na who is around for more then ten years, since about 1997. Since that time many posts in this forum where you can read that she got what it takes and she knows how to use it. A great and warm personality of which you also can see many beautifull pictures and even some movies all posted in this forum. She is a pro, but still a human, a girl who needs to be respected and she appreciates to be treated in a way that is considered as normal. If you want to know her personal just go to Pattaya and stay a few days with her and then you can also ask about her relations with me.

Yes ofcourse I was offended by the post of Naked Gunz and I suggest you read my reaction again which I wrote in defence of this great girl. It is very low. His ways and his words to describe this great girl Na. Just ask yourself why did he pick her from beachroad, was she funny, was she nice, was she sexy, was she beautifull. The price is the same as other girls so there must have been a reason for his choice for Na. Further he tells about his experiences with his crack ho's in the states and if he treats our great Na like that. Then I am even more offended. As I already said his post is telling more about him then about Na!

Na was and still is a great girl!

Cheers!

Normad2020
11-26-09, 04:27
Friends, I was just been informed that the time my friends and I will be in Pattaya and Bangkok (beginning 8 Dec 2009 for two weeks) falls right under the umbrella of the King' Birthday and other public holidays period.

My question is as we will be in Pattaya from 8 Dec 2009 for one week, will the actions be restricted by the authorities?

Hope to hear from some of the Pattaya experts on your thoughts.....

Much obliged.

Cheers
normad2020

Member #2041
11-26-09, 04:58
Friends, I was just been informed that the time my friends and I will be in Pattaya and Bangkok (beginning 8 Dec 2009 for two weeks) falls right under the umbrella of the King' Birthday and other public holidays period.

My question is as we will be in Pattaya from 8 Dec 2009 for one week, will the actions be restricted by the authorities?

Hope to hear from some of the Pattaya experts on your thoughts.....

Much obliged.

Cheers
normad2020

My experience with the King's Birthday is that the bars will be decorated with homages to the King during the actual date of Dec. 8th, and possibly a few days beyond and you will see lots of ladies dressed in Gold and/or Yellow, but none of your activities will be curtailed.

BTW, I too will be in Pattaya and Bangkok during that timeframe. It's nothing to be concerned about.

Franga
11-26-09, 05:44
I was heading along Beach Road last night when for the first time in my life I saw the "famous" Na. I have heard so much on ISG about her, but in all of my treks up and down the beach road strip lasting over many months in the last few years I have never ever seen her. So it was quite a surprise to see her in the flesh standing opposite Soi 13 in a black dress.

I just had to try her so we did a session back at my Hotel. I don't really know how to describe her but she is a mix of semi-hardened pro and nice girl all in one. She never gave me any problems but it wasn't quite like taking one of the fresher and friendlier girls.

The session was Ok. I must admit she has a nice looking box. I managed to get a set of nudes from her which she posed for with aplomb.

One thing I noticed is that she has these strange bluish marks about 1 baht coin sized around her lips, on her back, and on her leg. They kind of look like tattoos. I thought they may be from the drug taking. Anyone care to elaborate?

Goyave
11-26-09, 05:49
Friends, I was just been informed that the time my friends and I will be in Pattaya and Bangkok (beginning 8 Dec 2009 for two weeks) falls right under the umbrella of the King' Birthday and other public holidays period.

My question is as we will be in Pattaya from 8 Dec 2009 for one week, will the actions be restricted by the authorities?

Hope to hear from some of the Pattaya experts on your thoughts.....

Much obliged.

Cheers
normad2020

Alcohol is always banned (however, it is not fully enforced) on the King's birthday (5th December) and on the Queen's birthday (12th August), on election day, and on other days such as significant days in the Buddhist calendar.

At least Thai-owned bars and restaurants usually do not serve alcohol then, and several bars, clubs and discos might even be closed for a few days (one before, and one or two after the King's birthday for instance).

But on December 8th, situation should already be back to normal almost everywhere.

The Scout
11-26-09, 09:58
I really can't understand how grown men can be so naive, as to sponsor a working girl in LOS.

At least 3 of the girls I banged in Pattaya told me they had western sponsors, who thought they were no longer working. One girl would ring her sponsor whilst giving me a HJ!Some people get emotionally attached. I've met girls who have multiple sponsors and still freelance. It's always important to remember that there are nice girls here in Thailand but nice doesn't mean monogamous. Even if I were to fall for a non bar girl I would never leave her alone in farangland. I mean Thailand. And with that stance, I can't imagine how stressful having a real Thai GF would B.


. These girls are human and are sometimes looking for more than a customer. When they think they have found one, they offer themselves for free (which automatically makes you their boyfriend in their mind).

Be clear with her and don't take advantage of her, there are already too many of these assholes down in Pattaya.

She might consider you her Boyfriend now, if you want to make a gesture, take her shopping and buy her stuff, that way, it will not look like you are paying her for sex.I agree. If a girl starts paying for things when we go out, or pays half, it's fine by me. But at the end of the encounter I'll reimburse her in some way. Taking her shopping makes it feel more like a bf/gf thing to do, so I usually pay for as much as I can when we're together (meals, entertainment, drinks, etc) and give her a lump sum of money at the end and tell her to go shopping (on her own), or go have fun with her friends, or whatever. If she's really sticking to me I'll make sure to include the barfine she loses each day + whatever I feel is good compensation.

Mr Enforcer
11-26-09, 10:23
I was heading along Beach Road last night when for the first time in my life I saw the "famous" Na. I have heard so much on ISG about her, but in all of my treks up and down the beach road strip lasting over many months in the last few years I have never ever seen her. So it was quite a surprise to see her in the flesh standing opposite Soi 13 in a black dress.

I just had to try her so we did a session back at my Hotel. I don't really know how to describe her but she is a mix of semi-hardened pro and nice girl all in one. She never gave me any problems but it wasn't quite like taking one of the fresher and friendlier girls.

The session was Ok. I must admit she has a nice looking box. I managed to get a set of nudes from her which she posed for with aplomb.

One thing I noticed is that she has these strange bluish marks about 1 baht coin sized around her lips, on her back, and on her leg. They kind of look like tattoos. I thought they may be from the drug taking. Anyone care to elaborate?I was in Pattaya last week and saw Na in the street with a punter and I must admit that she is very,very dark and very attractive...if he did not have her then,I would have put in a quote to her.

Italy 1974
11-26-09, 11:01
Yes, I like your answer about Na.

By the way, where will I be possible to meet her.

I understood she is hanging around on beach road but in which part?

Thanks,

Italy 1974


Hi Run Mann,

Yes, I like the "person" and the "beauty" of Na who is around for more then ten years, since about 1997. Since that time many posts in this forum where you can read that she got what it takes and she knows how to use it. A great and warm personality of which you also can see many beautifull pictures and even some movies all posted in this forum. She is a pro, but still a human, a girl who needs to be respected and she appreciates to be treated in a way that is considered as normal. If you want to know her personal just go to Pattaya and stay a few days with her and then you can also ask about her relations with me.

Yes ofcourse I was offended by the post of Naked Gunz and I suggest you read my reaction again which I wrote in defence of this great girl. It is very low. His ways and his words to describe this great girl Na. Just ask yourself why did he pick her from beachroad, was she funny, was she nice, was she sexy, was she beautifull. The price is the same as other girls so there must have been a reason for his choice for Na. Further he tells about his experiences with his crack ho's in the states and if he treats our great Na like that. Then I am even more offended. As I already said his post is telling more about him then about Na!

Na was and still is a great girl!

Cheers!

Dveight
11-26-09, 11:22
Friends, I was just been informed that the time my friends and I will be in Pattaya and Bangkok (beginning 8 Dec 2009 for two weeks) falls right under the umbrella of the King' Birthday and other public holidays period.

My question is as we will be in Pattaya from 8 Dec 2009 for one week, will the actions be restricted by the authorities?

Hope to hear from some of the Pattaya experts on your thoughts.

Much obliged.

Cheers

Normad2020Offically December 7 is a Thai holiday in honor of the Kings Birthday even though his actual birthday is December 5. Traffic going to and from Pattaya, as well as everywhere in Thailand for that matter, will be worse than normal. Traffic on December 8 going back to Bangkok will be bad as well, but you shouldn't have any problems getting to Pattaya and everything will return to normal Tuesday. Decemember 10 is also a Thai holiday. It celebrates the transformation to a Constitutional Monarchy. While technically speaking alcohol sales are banned as well, it is rarely enforced, 7/11 may not sell you alcohol, as they often do enforce these rules in Bangkok. However the bars scene will not shutdown, and you won't have a problem finding some action. It falls in the middle of the week and thus most Thais would have to return to work on Friday anyway, so there won't be mass exodouses like the weekend before.

El Minetero
11-26-09, 15:09
'One thing I noticed is that she has these strange bluish marks about 1 baht coin sized around her lips, on her back, and on her leg. They kind of look like tattoos. I thought they may be from the drug taking. Anyone care to elaborate?'

There is a traditional cure where they hold a flame to the mouth of a small bottle heating the air inside. Then they apply the bottle to an area of complaint. When the air in the bottle cools it creates a vacuum, which they believe draws out the 'negative humours', akin to bleeding or using leeches. The practice leaves a sort of round, bruised, 'hickey'. Couldn't see the marks in the photo, so I can't really say.

El Minetero

Normad2020
11-26-09, 17:25
That's a relief to hear.

So we are off to Pattaya on 8 Dec 2009......!!!!!!!!

Cheers
normad2020




Offically December 7 is a Thai holiday in honor of the Kings Birthday even though his actual birthday is December 5. Traffic going to and from Pattaya, as well as everywhere in Thailand for that matter, will be worse than normal. Traffic on December 8 going back to Bangkok will be bad as well, but you shouldn't have any problems getting to Pattaya and everything will return to normal Tuesday. Decemember 10 is also a Thai holiday. It celebrates the transformation to a Constitutional Monarchy. While technically speaking alcohol sales are banned as well, it is rarely enforced, 7/11 may not sell you alcohol, as they often do enforce these rules in Bangkok. However the bars scene will not shutdown, and you won't have a problem finding some action. It falls in the middle of the week and thus most Thais would have to return to work on Friday anyway, so there won't be mass exodouses like the weekend before.

Run Mann
11-26-09, 20:11
Hi Run Mann,

Yes, I like the "person" and the "beauty" of Na who is around for more then ten years, since about 1997. Since that time many posts in this forum where you can read that she got what it takes and she knows how to use it. A great and warm personality of which you also can see many beautifull pictures and even some movies all posted in this forum. She is a pro, but still a human, a girl who needs to be respected and she appreciates to be treated in a way that is considered as normal. If you want to know her personal just go to Pattaya and stay a few days with her and then you can also ask about her relations with me.

Yes ofcourse I was offended by the post of Naked Gunz and I suggest you read my reaction again which I wrote in defence of this great girl. It is very low. His ways and his words to describe this great girl Na. Just ask yourself why did he pick her from beachroad, was she funny, was she nice, was she sexy, was she beautifull. The price is the same as other girls so there must have been a reason for his choice for Na. Further he tells about his experiences with his crack ho's in the states and if he treats our great Na like that. Then I am even more offended. As I already said his post is telling more about him then about Na!

Na was and still is a great girl!

Cheers!
Sorry Paulo, I am not interested in getting to know her. I've spotted her numerous times on BR and on various sites on the net but never had an interest. Oddly enough she was not on BR tonight when I walked by, probably busy working her magic. It’s quite normal for girls to become callous after being in the game for some time and ten years is a long time to be hooking without some type of transformation. Naked Gunz is not the only one to post a negative report about Na (see Franga's post below) and I'm sure there will be others. However, I'm glad you find her to be great; you're in populous company on this board with that opinion, despite some dissenters.

Adamus
11-26-09, 23:16
Hello, guys,

Finally I go to Thailand, My first time in Asia that I have been dreaming for months. I decided to visit Phuket. Patong instead of Pataya or Bankok. Maybe a mistke, maybe not. Will finde out.

I have a question to people that know Phuket and Patong Beach (or around area well). Are any of this hotels Girls Friendly or do I will have to pay for a visitor extra or maybe there won't be even alloved to have a visitor?

List of choice from my travel company:

Kris Hotel

Royal Paradise

Kamala Beach

Blue Ocean Studios

Baramee Hip Hotel

Deevana Patong Resort & Spa

The Blue Marine Resort & Spa

Royal Paradise Resort

Patong Beach Hotel

Anyone know this places? Aby recomended for having ladies visitors?

Thank You in advance, cheers.

Mistral66
11-27-09, 05:06
Sorry, Mistral66, but if we are speaking about her looks only, I won't be as generous as you (at least, based on the picture you submitted). I can't see her body very well on your photo, alas, and I might think that she looks better in the real life, but apparently, she's not really my type of girl nowadays. Don't get me wrong, she looks decent enough and I probably would have answered differently ten years ago, but as I've lived in the Land of Smiles for several years, I don't think that this girl has something particular, and she's not of the kind that I would notice immediately in a crowd. She looks very ordinary to me, and her skin seems to be much darker than what I like usually in this country (but if she has a great body, I wouldn't mind!), therefore, she just deserves a 6/10 mark in my humble opinion (but again, I can't judge her body on your photo, so, I might have seriously underrated her even according to my own criteria).

But to each his own... you like her and as you said that her performance and attitude are great, that's what really counts and it matters more than the subjective ratings of people who haven't meet her in the real life...Goyave,

Thanks for the statement, I just wanted to find out about the individual gauge of some members, in particular those who never or rarely post pics but permanently have a go on those who are 'brave' enough to post. I agree that beauty is in the eye of the beholder and personally I do not need the reassurance from others that my GF/LT/ST is a stunner but I really don't like that we have some idiots here (not you) on the forum who obviously do not know anything about decency.

Anyway I guess it is what it is and I will leave it there.

Hope that you enjoyed your time in Thailand, for my part the 8 years I lived in BKK were really amazing and make me come back in December for who knows how many years.

Cheers

Mouse1
11-27-09, 08:08
Arrived in Pattaya yesterday after 5 fabulous days with the Shrimp, first in Bangkok, then in Koh Samed. I'll write about that elsewhere, but first...

The Shrimp couldn't stay an extra night as planned due to family problems (perhaps), so she had to head back to BKK in the afternoon soon after we arrived at the hotel. So I visited Soi 6 and met a very SYT named Wa, who met my every need. Cruised the bars in the evening and met another not-quite-so-young lady in a beer bar on Soi 7, and took her back for a very lively session in my room.

But... I'm bored :(. Perhaps I'm jaded, perhaps I need a break, and in any case I am quite tired. But after two sessions of fairly meaningless sex I'm now sitting here in the BeerGarden and rather wishing I was somewhere else :(. I guess I am just bored with cruising the bars and having the usual conversations with young girls who are pretending to find me interesting! I do have an appointment at 10pm this evening with a young lady from DD, so hopefully that will perk me up.

I probably enjoyed myself too much the last few days, but it was actually quite fun to have sex with someone I genuinely like and who hopefully likes me.

Anyway, I'd be interested to know if this happens to anybody else? And if anyone is around in Pattaya this evening and fancies a beer that would be great.

Opebo
11-27-09, 09:53
...Na... where will I be possible to meet her.

I understood she is hanging around on beach road but in which part?

The part of the Beach with girls is small - from Walking street to about Soi 7. However Na almost always sticks to the busiest or more central part of the stroll, near Soi Yamoto. For sure if she's out you'll find her between Soi 12 and Royal Garden Shopping mall.

I'll second those who have respect for Na - I have a great respect for all the girls down there who offer decent service for a fair price and with a friendly attitude (which is most of them). I've gone with Na a few times, and she's just not my 'type', but I would recommend anyone try her.

Hummer Bird
11-27-09, 20:42
the part of the beach with girls is small. from walking street to about soi 7. however na almost always sticks to the busiest or more central part of the stroll, near soi yamoto. for sure if she's out you'll find her between soi 12 and royal garden shopping mall.

i'll second those who have respect for na. i have a great respect for all the girls down there who offer decent service for a fair price and with a friendly attitude (which is most of them). i've gone with na a few times, and she's just not my 'type', but i would recommend anyone try her.i saw na last summer directly cattycorner to the royal garden, and decided to sit down and chat w/ the infamous sw.

i could barely stand sitting next to her, as she smelled like a homeless person w/ a [CodeWord113] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord113) odor. she looked very haggered and her hair was really gross.

nonetheless you could tell that she had some nice genes, and at one time must have been a real looker. she was very curt, and after 2 min of chatting told me to leave if i was not going to take her, so i did, as she seemed very edgy and yaba like.

wish i could have caught her about 5 yrs ago before the babies and drugs did.

cheers.

hb

Mouse1
11-28-09, 00:16
Well, it's amazing what some good company and the ministrations of a young imp from Devil's Den can do to lift one's spirits.

Thanks to Tansak and Daddy07 for the first, and to Pim for the second. And if you haven't ever been with Pim, that's great, you don't know what you're missing and you won't be booking her o/n when I want to see her :)

I opened the door to Pim this evening and her eyes opened in surprise, she gave a huge grin and rushed in, throwing her arms around me and then jumping up on to me. I have been with her only twice before (in-call and out-call each) and not since about July, but she genuinely remembered me as she still knew some things about me. Now that's what I call service with a smile!

Made me realise that what I missed before was some sense of fun. Two energetic but rather mechanical sessions don't compare with the awesome night of pleasure with happy, smiling and fun Pim :). And I guess that needs in future a bit more investment in time in relationship-building, for me at least... Anyway, that's my recipe for success.

By the way, Tansak, loved your two girls, and no, I didn't sneak off and get their phone numbers! Good luck with them both :)

DerekTheDuke2004
11-28-09, 00:49
Landing in Bangkok on Wednesday at 11pm. Anyone know if I can catch a bus to Pattaya in the middle of the night?

Sexual Healing
11-28-09, 01:19
Hi guys,

I'm planning a 3-weeks journey to Thailand in January 2010 (1st time).

Still not sure, depending on kind of flying ticket rates I may get.

I am supposed to go with a friend of mine who is a regular tourist in this same time and area. Yet, this year he might join me or not depending on his business, so he will resolve himself later and I might end up by myself as well.

Although my interest in journey is mainly sex, I would also enjoy some nature and relax.

Now, since I've been told that Phuket is best for beaches, and Pattaya for girls I am considering to visit both.

On the other hand, from a pure financial point my friend tips me not to do so because:

-Phuket would be more expensive.

-You could get a much more valuable price making an agreement with a hotel to spend the whole holiday in the same accomodation.

He says that you usually have access to 2 options: get a valuable rate for 1 month stay or an average more expensive rate staying less than 1 month, most likely the total for single night stays summed up together. No option in between. So if you stay, say, 15 days it will be not half of the monthly stay (or reasonably slightly more) but 1 x 15 night rate.

He says that this would be their way to "rip off" visitors, since there are few of them who stay for 1 month square and the majority spend less nights or more but bid for the monthly option anyway, because cheaper than the other one. Also, staff in hotels do not worry much about negotiating with customer: pick what is available at their conditions or quit they do not care.

So, going 2 to Pattaya and 1 week to Phuket, as I was figuring, would mean paying virtually the same rate than the 3 weeks/1 month rate (in Pattaya) plus the extra cost of the 1 week away (in Phuket).

Does anybody experienced anything like this or have any details to confirm condition described?

Thank you!

P.S. Consider that I am aiming to an average accomodation, comfortable and affordable, something in between either a bungalow or a luxury resort.

EDITOR'S NOTE: I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php) for more information.

PauloThai
11-28-09, 01:58
Sorry Paulo, I am not interested in getting to know her. Hi Run Mann,

You asked about the person and the beauty of this great girl Na and
that is why I answerred. I am not her marketing manager and I was
not trying to make you interested in her. I only answerred your question.

My initial post was directed to Naked Gunz as I explained enough by now.
I was offended by the post of Naked Gunz and I suggest you read my
reaction again which I wrote in defence of this great girl.

It is very low.... his ways and his words to describe this great girl Na.
Just ask yourself why did he pick her from beachroad, was she funny, was
she nice, was she sexy, was she beautifull. The price is the same as other
girls so there must have been a reason for his choice for Na.

Further he tells about his experiences with his crack ho's in the states and
if he treats our great Na like that...... then I am even more offended.
As I already said his post is telling more about him then about Na!

Na was and still is a great girl!
RESPECT !

Cheers !

Dveight
11-28-09, 06:23
Hi guys,

I'm planning a 3-weeks journey to Thailand in January 2010 (1st time).

Still not sure, depending on kind of flying ticket rates I may get.

I am supposed to go with a friend of mine who is a regular tourist in this same time and area. Yet, this year he might join me or not depending on his business, so he will resolve himself later and I might end up by myself as well.

Although my interest in journey is mainly sex, I would also enjoy some nature and relax.

Now, since I've been told that Phuket is best for beaches, and Pattaya for girls I am considering to visit both.

On the other hand, from a pure financial point my friend tips me not to do so because:

-Phuket would be more expensive.

-You could get a much more valuable price making an agreement with a hotel to spend the whole holiday in the same accomodation.

He says that you usually have access to 2 options: get a valuable rate for 1 month stay or an average more expensive rate staying less than 1 month, most likely the total for single night stays summed up together. No option in between. So if you stay, say, 15 days it will be not half of the monthly stay (or reasonably slightly more) but 1 x 15 night rate.

He says that this would be their way to "rip off" visitors, since there are few of them who stay for 1 month square and the majority spend less nights or more but bid for the monthly option anyway, because cheaper than the other one. Also, staff in hotels do not worry much about negotiating with customer: pick what is available at their conditions or quit they do not care.

So, going 2 to Pattaya and 1 week to Phuket, as I was figuring, would mean paying virtually the same rate than the 3 weeks/1 month rate (in Pattaya) plus the extra cost of the 1 week away (in Phuket).

Does anybody experienced anything like this or have any details to confirm condition described?

Thank you!

P.S. Consider that I am aiming to an average accomodation, comfortable and affordable, something in between either a bungalow or a luxury resort.

EDITOR'S NOTE: I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php) for more information.

You will most certainly pay more if you try to go to Pattaya and Phuket. You also forgot to include travel expenses to/from Phuket in your costs. Plus Phuket is just more expensive, it attracts more "mainstream" tourists. There are girl's avaiable, and I have seen good looking girls from Phuket, but it is generally considered that Phuket is a retirement home for bar girls. I recommend that you stick to Pattaya, and take one of the day trips to the smaller islands off the cost of Pattay, they only cost a couple 100 Baht.

If you are looking for a mid range hotel checkout:

http://www.Arecalodge.com/

It's a nice mid range hotel, it has a great location IMHO, It's where I stay normally, and you can negotiate a long term rate with them. It costs 1200-1500 Baht a night depending on the time of year. You can get them down to about 1000 Baht a night if you are going to stay a month. They are available through Agoda as well, but there's no negotiating when you book through Agoda. If you want a hotel right in the middle of the action you can try:

http://www.Galaxysuitespattaya.com

Or

http://www.Secretspattaya.com/hotel/

Both are located on Walking Street and offer room's relatively cheap, Galaxy starts at about 1000 Baht a night, and 800 Baht a night at Secrets. But be forewarned these hotels are hardcore, right in the middle of the action, so don't even think about trying to get some sleep until 4 or 5 am I have never stayed a long time in either because after a few days I want to go some place a little quieter.

BTW. Buying a ticket now for that timeframe could be rather pricy, depending on where you are flying from. You are planning to come during what is prime tourist season, so everything, including flights costs more.

Bill Miami
11-28-09, 06:47
If you going to stay in Pattaya for 3 weeks, your best bet is to rent a condo. You can get one much better than any hotel room you will find. A nice condo for a month would run you around 15,000 Baht, plus utilities. They all have restaurants, laundries, internet shop and stores on the ground floor. I would recommend you try to get a room in View Talay 5. It is a brand new building, right on the bus route, next to the ocean. Below you will find a link to all the real estate agencies in Pattaya. Just look at there condos for rent and you can book them over the internet or call them, they all speak English.

http://www.jomtien-pattaya-real-estate.com/

Bill Miami
11-28-09, 06:51
It will be your second mistake, why would you ask a question about Phuket, in the Pattaya forum was your first mistake.



Hello, guys,

Finally I go to Thailand, My first time in Asia that I have been dreaming for months. I decided to visit Phuket. Patong instead of Pataya or Bankok. Maybe a mistke, maybe not. Will finde out.

I have a question to people that know Phuket and Patong Beach (or around area well). Are any of this hotels Girls Friendly or do I will have to pay for a visitor extra or maybe there won't be even alloved to have a visitor?

List of choice from my travel company:

Kris Hotel

Royal Paradise

Kamala Beach

Blue Ocean Studios

Baramee Hip Hotel

Deevana Patong Resort & Spa

The Blue Marine Resort & Spa

Royal Paradise Resort

Patong Beach Hotel

Anyone know this places? Aby recomended for having ladies visitors?

Thank You in advance, cheers.

Bill Miami
11-28-09, 06:54
"I guess I am just bored with cruising the bars and having the usual conversations with young girls who are pretending to find me interesting!"

A quote from down below, that is funny. Life sucks when that happens. Just think how lucky you are, 99% of the males on the face of this earth wish they were just as bored as you.

Mouse1
11-28-09, 07:26
"I guess I am just bored with cruising the bars and having the usual conversations with young girls who are pretending to find me interesting!"

A quote from down below, that is funny. Life sucks when that happens. Just think how lucky you are, 99% of the males on the face of this earth wish they were just as bored as you.Oh, I absolutely agree! I was laughing at the irony of it as I wrote it... :) I'll be back in cold rainy UK in about 4 days...

"When I was here, I wanted to be there; when I was there, all I could think of was getting back into the jungle." Willard.

Mouse1
11-28-09, 07:35
Hi guys,

I'm planning a 3-weeks journey to Thailand in January 2010 (1st time).

Although my interest in journey is mainly sex, I would also enjoy some nature and relax.

Now, since I've been told that Phuket is best for beaches, and Pattaya for girls I am considering to visit both.So another option might be a few days in Bangkok. You have to go there if it is your first time in Thailand. Then a few days in Pattaya for the girls, then a few days in Koh Samed (about an hour from Pattaya by taxi) for sun, beaches and relaxation, then back to Pattaya and then Bangkok and home. I'm just back from a few days in Koh Samed, where I had a wonderful time. Personally I wouldn't want to be there on my own, but you have an option to take a girl from Pattaya.

ThaiLearner
11-28-09, 10:16
Hi guys,

I'm planning a 3-weeks journey to Thailand in January 2010 (1st time).

Still not sure, depending on kind of flying ticket rates I may get.

I am supposed to go with a friend of mine who is a regular tourist in this same time and area. Yet, this year he might join me or not depending on his business, so he will resolve himself later and I might end up by myself as well.

Although my interest in journey is mainly sex, I would also enjoy some nature and relax.

Now, since I've been told that Phuket is best for beaches, and Pattaya for girls I am considering to visit both.

On the other hand, from a pure financial point my friend tips me not to do so because:

-Phuket would be more expensive.

-You could get a much more valuable price making an agreement with a hotel to spend the whole holiday in the same accomodation.

He says that you usually have access to 2 options: get a valuable rate for 1 month stay or an average more expensive rate staying less than 1 month, most likely the total for single night stays summed up together. No option in between. So if you stay, say, 15 days it will be not half of the monthly stay (or reasonably slightly more) but 1 x 15 night rate.

He says that this would be their way to "rip off" visitors, since there are few of them who stay for 1 month square and the majority spend less nights or more but bid for the monthly option anyway, because cheaper than the other one. Also, staff in hotels do not worry much about negotiating with customer: pick what is available at their conditions or quit they do not care.

So, going 2 to Pattaya and 1 week to Phuket, as I was figuring, would mean paying virtually the same rate than the 3 weeks/1 month rate (in Pattaya) plus the extra cost of the 1 week away (in Phuket).

Does anybody experienced anything like this or have any details to confirm condition described?

Thank you!

P.S. Consider that I am aiming to an average accomodation, comfortable and affordable, something in between either a bungalow or a luxury resort.

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If you are visiting various places then I don't see the point of renting a place for a month in one place.

Say spend a few days in Bangkok head to Phuket then Pattaya (you can visit a few other places like Koh Chang or Koh Samet) then after Pattaya back to the airport.

In Pattaya areound the Soi LK and Soi Buckheow area you can get a guest house for between 500-1000 a night.

Pm if you want to know more

ThaiLearner
11-28-09, 10:21
Landing in Bangkok on Wednesday at 11pm. Anyone know if I can catch a bus to Pattaya in the middle of the night?


I don't know about all the bus companies but the Bell bus does not run at that time of night. I doubt that any of them do.

I use mr_ttaxi@hotmail.com good service and good rates

Dveight
11-28-09, 12:26
Landing in Bangkok on Wednesday at 11pm. Anyone know if I can catch a bus to Pattaya in the middle of the night?Nope, the last bus leaves the airport at 8:00, the downtown stations have a bus that leaves at 11:00 I am almost positive, it may leave earlier, but there's no chance its later. Schedule a Taxi through the Mr. T from ThaiLearner's post he's the best deal around, 1000 Baht total including tolls, and you don't need to be worried about being scammed by him.

A regular taxi will cost you at least 1500 Baht, and most liekly a lot more, and then they will tell you when you get to the toll both you pay tolls. They often demand gas money, food, anything to get a few Baht of the Farrang. Mr. T's service is not like that, he knows he has good reputation, and is not going to compromise that to scam a few Baht off someone.

The buses from Suvarnabhumi to Pattaya leave at:

09:00
13:00
17:00
20:00

The buses to Pattaya from Ekamai and Morchit leave every 30 minuets from 6:00 A.M. to 11:00 P.M.

Sexual Healing
11-28-09, 12:34
Thanks for answering buddies!

At Bill Miami.

Nice link, visited and got an idea. Still, I don't get what is a "condo" exactly? A compound with multiple flats and studio apartments?

AtThai Learner

I am with you, but question actually was:

Let's say I can afford a budget of roughly 1. 000 $ for the 3 weeks stay (meaning cost of holiday excl. Plane ticket).

Now, changing location from Bangkok to Phuket to Pattaya to Koh Samet is it something that may affect my budget in terms of accomodation costs, so that it may be more convenient to make a deal with a single hotel/apartment (if there is any chance to get one) or is it not so relevant?

Thanks

Dinghy
11-28-09, 14:49
The last bus from BKK to Patts leaves at 8PM. I'm surprised that the last departure from Jomtien to drop off doesn't do a turn at BKK, tho - it gets in at 9pm or so ... they go SOMEWHERE for the nite because they leave for Jomtien and points in between at 6:45

Member #2041
11-28-09, 17:37
Landing in Bangkok on Wednesday at 11pm. Anyone know if I can catch a bus to Pattaya in the middle of the night?
Nope, there are no buses until the next morning. You've got 3 choices:

1) Get a taxi to Pattaya
2) Hang out at the Airport or an Airport hotel until around 8 AM
3) Go into Bangkok for the night, and catch a freelancer after the bars close.

My flight gets in at 11:45, and I am going to be availing myself of choice #3. Then getting a bus from Ekamai the next day.

Bill Miami
11-29-09, 02:58
A condo is a privately owned unit or apartment in a building that has many of them, ranging from 50 condos to 800 condos. The people that own these condos and don't live in them turn them over to various Real Estate Agencies in the hope they will rent them out and the owner will make a little money.

They can vary in size from 28 Square Meters, which would be a small studio to 400 Square Meters that would be 3 or 4 bedrooms. You can rent a condo for as low as 6,000 Baht plus utilities. Obviously the more your willing to pay, the better your accommodations are going to be.

If you are staying in Pattaya for two weeks or more, you will almost assuredly be better off renting a condo instead of staying in a hotel room. The agencies will usually want you to pay when you move in and take a one months deposit. If there is no damage your deposit will be returned to you less the electric and water you used.

They will check the meters when you check out. This could add anywhere from 500 Baht to 4,000 Baht to you cost largely depending on how much your air conditioning is turned on.

You can review virtually all the real estate agencies websites using this link; I will put it in one more time.

http://www.jomtien-pattaya-real-estate.com/

Just review the condos for rent section and find one you like. Then email the agency and find out if it is available for your dates. If you want to talk to them, they all have numbers on there websites. You can download Skype and call them for virtually nothing.

There are a ton of buildings here and it is really important that you get one on the Baht Bus route so you have 24 hours day transportation. I would recommend View Talay 6 in Pattaya. It is right in the middle of everything next to the new mall which is the equivalent of any major mall you will find anywhere in the world.

In Jomtien, which is where I live as do most of the people that live here year round, I would recommend View Talay 1, 2 and 5. It is a ten minute ride to Pattaya, although the road is now being renovated and it could take longer depending on what time of day you travel.

Another way to do this is too rent a hotel room for a few days and have a look around for yourself and see what you find. If you arrive during working hours 9AM to 5PM you will be able to check into your condo that day. However, if you arrive later you will need a hotel room.

Hope that helps, Bill.



Thanks for answering buddies!

At Bill Miami.

Nice link, visited and got an idea. Still, I don't get what is a "condo" exactly? A compound with multiple flats and studio apartments?

AtThai Learner

I am with you, but question actually was:

Let's say I can afford a budget of roughly 1. 000 $ for the 3 weeks stay (meaning cost of holiday excl. Plane ticket).

Now, changing location from Bangkok to Phuket to Pattaya to Koh Samet is it something that may affect my budget in terms of accomodation costs, so that it may be more convenient to make a deal with a single hotel/apartment (if there is any chance to get one) or is it not so relevant?

Thanks

ThaiLearner
11-29-09, 12:50
Thanks for answering buddies!

At Bill Miami.

Nice link, visited and got an idea. Still, I don't get what is a "condo" exactly? A compound with multiple flats and studio apartments?

AtThai Learner

I am with you, but question actually was:

Let's say I can afford a budget of roughly 1. 000 $ for the 3 weeks stay (meaning cost of holiday excl. Plane ticket).

Now, changing location from Bangkok to Phuket to Pattaya to Koh Samet is it something that may affect my budget in terms of accomodation costs, so that it may be more convenient to make a deal with a single hotel/apartment (if there is any chance to get one) or is it not so relevant?

Thanks


Yes travelling about alot will eat more into your budget.

Taxi from airport to Pattaya return 2000bht approx

If your flight times are right then Bell bus is 400bht return.

You should get a better deal if you stay at the same guesthouse/hotel for the 3 weeks. Not all places will. Remember January is still classed as high season.

Also you will need more than a $1000 for 3 weeks I budget a £100 a day.

Opebo
11-29-09, 14:46
...Let's say I can afford a budget of roughly 1. 000 $ for the 3 weeks stay (meaning cost of holiday excl. Plane ticket).

That is an extremely tight budget for the new high-cost Thailand. That's roughly 1,500-1,600 baht per day. Really, its almost impossible I'm afraid. But the best way for you is to go directly to Pattaya and try to find a fan/cold water room with no TV for 150-250/night, and then eat only very simply, don't drink or go into any bars, and just take only Beach Road freelancers for about 300-600 per session, assuming Beach Road is not being cracked down on too much at the time of your visit (its been ok lately)

Alternatively it wouldn't be bad to go to Udon Thani and stay in a decent cheap hotel for 250-320/night with TV and air, and just go to the small Lao houses for about that same 300-600 per session. However there is no guarantee the houses will be open when you're there, and of course service is poor. I wish I could tell you more about the update on that scene, but I haven't been in a while.

Let's budget both of those out, for fun:

Pattaya - Taxi to Pattaya from the airport 1,200 baht +
each day 250 room, 1,000 for girls, 250 for food - 1,500/day times 20, 30,000 + bus to airport 200 = total 31,400 baht.

Udon - one night in bangkok each way 1,800 X 2, 3,600 baht, + each day 320 room, 1,000 girls, 200 for food, 1,520 day times 18 days, 27,360 + bus to and from Udon 600 each way times two 1,200 = total 32,160 baht.

This gives you two girls per day, and if you cut it back to 1.5 girls per day you'll have money for the myriad unexpected expenses that come up - for example washing your clothes and getting around. I'm afraid that 2,500 baht a day is a lot more realistic.

Member #3173
11-29-09, 15:14
I think if you are on a budget 2000 baht a day should suffuce to live well.
Two years ago I spent 17 days in Pattaya at an average of 1,350b a day and
last year I averaged 1500 a day staying in South Pattaya. This includes the
occasional ladies I come across but excludes transport to/fro Bangkok.
Of course being over 60 I cut on girls, still I could enjoy myself.By the way I am Chinese.

LittleBigMan
11-29-09, 16:07
I think if you are on a budget 2000 baht a day should suffuce to live well.
Two years ago I spent 17 days in Pattaya at an average of 1,350b a day and
last year I averaged 1500 a day staying in South Pattaya. This includes the
occasional ladies I come across but excludes transport to/fro Bangkok.
Of course being over 60 I cut on girls, still I could enjoy myself.By the way I am Chinese.

Maybe I'm missing something here? What does being Chinese have anything to do with your remarks? I'm Chinese too and from what you are saying should I expect the same thing to happen to me when I get 60?

LBM

Sexual Healing
11-29-09, 16:27
First, thank you all for answering. This is really the best forum for infos and tips to first-timers like me.

My, my, my. I've been told from this friend of mine that staying 3/4 weeks or more makes sense as the only way to balance high costs of plane ticket, since once in Pattaya life there is cheap and now I find out that it is expensive too!

Maybe I should re-plan and stay only two weeks.

By the way, flyng to Bangkok from Milan with Thai Airlines is about 900 euros (roughly 1. 300$) so it is actually half of the budget for the holiday.

(Unless you don't have better tips for that too, it seems to me that flying with Lufthansa, Klm or other companies which stopover at somewhere makes a long journey longer and even more expensive. Thai Airlines still sounds to me as best bet).

Back to budget. Yes, I think I can raise it to 1. 300$ or something, depending if I manage to save something on plane rate, but not much more.

Opebo, as for lifestyle during holiday, if think 1 girl a day will work for me. I have been told that girls stay overnight for an average of 1. 000 baht, so having 2 girls a day would mean either a permanent threesome or an extra session in the afternoon and I don't think I would ever reach that score.

As I told, I would enjoy some rest too, some lazy time in walks, laying on beach or riding a boat to coral island. Or is it a 24hr pussy-focused set like gambling is in Vegas?

Now, I would enjoy a comfortable accomodation, but I don't need no luxury. I would enjoy some fine food and drinks, but I don't mean pushing it at top.

Thai Learner, with all respect, 100$ a day sounds a bit high-roller to me, even considering that still, my budget is actually too tight.

I will think about it and see if I can come up with something.

Cheers!

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Sexual Healing
11-29-09, 17:01
Bill, thanks for detailled description provided.

I think that probably the best for me is to spend 1/2 days in a hotel and then see there what is available, what I like and what I can afford.

More than everything I am for a quiet place. I like to rock and roll into the night, but when partytime is over I need a good time sleep and I cannot bear noise around.

I don't mind if it takes a short ride to beach or to go-go bars, provided there is a good bus service (I would like to avoid motorbike), I am definitely for a place away from street hassle or construction area, all things that I probably need to check on the spot.

Verdant Villa is cheap and looks ok, Nong Apartments and Jomtien Vacation Rental Apartments are more expensive but even look cosier. Maybe I can afford one of them.

Can you tell me if Nong and Jomtien are still district of Pattaya or names of smalltown around?

Are they located on View Talay 6 you reccomended?

Cheers!

Goyave
11-29-09, 17:16
...
Alternatively it wouldn't be bad to go to Udon Thani and stay in a decent cheap hotel for 250-320/night with TV and air, and just go to the small Lao houses for about that same 300-600 per session. However there is no guarantee the houses will be open when you're there, and of course service is poor. I wish I could tell you more about the update on that scene, but I haven't been in a while...

Your figures are correct for Udon Thani, and many brothels are open (I visited soi sow fai deng and two other P4P places in this town very recently).

New Old Guy
11-29-09, 17:32
The last bus from BKK to Patts leaves at 8PM. Right now there is also one at 9PM, same stand, that's what I used and served me well. Only, doesn't do to each hotel/areas, only three stops in Pattaya.

Redfield10
11-30-09, 00:43
If what you are saying is you want a 3 week holiday excluding airfare for a total of $1, 000 USD (including girls, food, and accomadations for the $1, 000 USD) that is only $50 a day and tha would be difficult to do even with a very low budget unless you cut out girls or room.


Thanks for answering buddies!

At Bill Miami.

Nice link, visited and got an idea. Still, I don't get what is a "condo" exactly? A compound with multiple flats and studio apartments?

AtThai Learner

I am with you, but question actually was:

Let's say I can afford a budget of roughly 1. 000 $ for the 3 weeks stay (meaning cost of holiday excl. Plane ticket).

Now, changing location from Bangkok to Phuket to Pattaya to Koh Samet is it something that may affect my budget in terms of accomodation costs, so that it may be more convenient to make a deal with a single hotel/apartment (if there is any chance to get one) or is it not so relevant?

Thanks

Redfield10
11-30-09, 00:48
I just reread your posts. For me anything less than $100 a day excluding airfare. Even in Pattaya. Is my bare minimum. Unless you ate only going to take a girl every other day or so.

UOTE=Sexual Healing]First, thank you all for answering. This is really the best forum for infos and tips to first-timers like me.

My, my, my. I've been told from this friend of mine that staying 3/4 weeks or more makes sense as the only way to balance high costs of plane ticket, since once in Pattaya life there is cheap and now I find out that it is expensive too!

Maybe I should re-plan and stay only two weeks.

By the way, flyng to Bangkok from Milan with Thai Airlines is about 900 euros (roughly 1. 300$) so it is actually half of the budget for the holiday.

(Unless you don't have better tips for that too, it seems to me that flying with Lufthansa, Klm or other companies which stopover at somewhere makes a long journey longer and even more expensive. Thai Airlines still sounds to me as best bet).

Back to budget. Yes, I think I can raise it to 1. 300$ or something, depending if I manage to save something on plane rate, but not much more.

Opebo, as for lifestyle during holiday, if think 1 girl a day will work for me. I have been told that girls stay overnight for an average of 1. 000 baht, so having 2 girls a day would mean either a permanent threesome or an extra session in the afternoon and I don't think I would ever reach that score.

As I told, I would enjoy some rest too, some lazy time in walks, laying on beach or riding a boat to coral island. Or is it a 24hr pussy-focused set like gambling is in Vegas?

Now, I would enjoy a comfortable accomodation, but I don't need no luxury. I would enjoy some fine food and drinks, but I don't mean pushing it at top.

Thai Learner, with all respect, 100$ a day sounds a bit high-roller to me, even considering that still, my budget is actually too tight.

I will think about it and see if I can come up with something.

Cheers!

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Jeff46
11-30-09, 04:44
First, thank you all for answering. This is really the best forum for infos and tips to first-timers like me.

My, my, my. I've been told from this friend of mine that staying 3/4 weeks or more makes sense as the only way to balance high costs of plane ticket, since once in Pattaya life there is cheap and now I find out that it is expensive too!

Maybe I should re-plan and stay only two weeks.

By the way, flyng to Bangkok from Milan with Thai Airlines is about 900 euros (roughly 1. 300$) so it is actually half of the budget for the holiday.

(Unless you don't have better tips for that too, it seems to me that flying with Lufthansa, Klm or other companies which stopover at somewhere makes a long journey longer and even more expensive. Thai Airlines still sounds to me as best bet).

Back to budget. Yes, I think I can raise it to 1. 300$ or something, depending if I manage to save something on plane rate, but not much more.

Opebo, as for lifestyle during holiday, if think 1 girl a day will work for me. I have been told that girls stay overnight for an average of 1. 000 baht, so having 2 girls a day would mean either a permanent threesome or an extra session in the afternoon and I don't think I would ever reach that score.

As I told, I would enjoy some rest too, some lazy time in walks, laying on beach or riding a boat to coral island. Or is it a 24hr pussy-focused set like gambling is in Vegas?

Now, I would enjoy a comfortable accomodation, but I don't need no luxury. I would enjoy some fine food and drinks, but I don't mean pushing it at top.

Thai Learner, with all respect, 100$ a day sounds a bit high-roller to me, even considering that still, my budget is actually too tight.

I will think about it and see if I can come up with something.

Cheers!

EDITOR'S NOTE: I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php) for more information.As for you Pattaya is new. You don t know yet there are things etc.

$ 1300 excluding hotel room is not enough for one month. Oh oh yes is enouth without the girls and drinks for 120 baht at go gos etc.. No girls no alcool no fun. My last stay in Pattaya for fun. Doing nothing special just beach. Some tequillas. Beach chair food. With girl a weekend Friday Saturday Sunday

Euro 200 easy gone.