Pattaya Reports

[Banana Boi]

Which do you prefer, a girl with good service in a lousy room or a girl with lousy service in a luxurious room?I can't have sex on the 2nd floor of a Thailand bar with no AC. I also can't have sex on a mattress with springs sticking out of them. Yes, I have experienced both. Same as I can't have sex at Oase in one of those closets beside the hot tub or at Sharks when the AC is broken in the Summer, which ime was often. If I'm paying a bar a barfine to use their room I expect a serviceable room. I also expect the bar to take some pride and fire girls that are lousy but we know that rarely happens.

[GentileBear]

Excuse my ignorance, but what are gummies?Gummie Bear candies filled with THC the active drug in cannabis aka Marijuana. Very popular in USA states where recreational marijuana is legal. No smoke smell and get high with body buzz for hours.

[Cha Chumplin]

Heading to Pattaya tomorrow just for the BEEJESUS of it.

One week at Red Planet is $126 per its own website. That tells me no way can Pattaya be that busy. No offense to the fella who says Patts is still packed.

[Knobrm]

I recall the Follow the Flag tours continued right up to the Chinese ban, and then petered out over the next week, as the tours finished. Despite Covid, there were still some tours in Pattaya in the week that followed the ban. Then, Walking Street was empty.Flag tours yes, but not the 'Zero Dollar Tours' that were largely cracked down, though not 100% probably, but the major operators. Chinese tours groups always go following the flagman / lady, with their group colour caps on, even in China on domestic tours. The ZDT was a scamming business model that govt simply had to crack down, rightfully so. That ZTD model was actually a direct copy what they used to do in China for domestic group tours as well when I was living there, not sure if still the model or locally cracked as well. Mass market holiday group travel was at it's infancy there at the time.


As of last week, Chinese tours are in full swing. Can't miss them. Can't avoid these Freight Trains.And they have not even properly started yet, wait for another month or two when the things are up and running in full in China again, and WS will be full of these trains following their flags.

If you into WS during early hours, better enjoy now before they are back to full swing.

[Knobrm]

However, I do not understand the last part regarding short-time. But it looks like they are seriously putting mileage on the girls. And 50 bucks should be 50 Baht.Looks like girls get 50 baht of the 400 room fee / BF for ST upstairs, and 100 of the 800 BF if you take her out for 2 hrs, not into the room.

[Goatscrot]

My undercover operative was able to intercept this Nightwish Group internal memo that was apparently sent to all staff members. This is the auto translate app version. The original text was in Thai.

Barfine is now 2,000 Baht if you take out the girl early.

The rest is self-explanatory.

However, I do not understand the last part regarding short-time. But it looks like they are seriously putting mileage on the girls. And 50 bucks should be 50 Baht.IMHO Soi 6 has been going downhill since they appeared on the scene and started buying bars. It used to be a fairly quiet soi with no open bars or loud music. Gals would sit outside and wait for customers to take them in and have a drink and a shag. It opened about 2:00 pm And was over pretty much right after the sun went down. It was nice and low-key with lots of gems to be found.

Now, no thanks.

[Cha Chumplin]

My undercover operative was able to intercept this Nightwish Group internal memo that was apparently sent to all staff members. This is the auto translate app version. The original text was in Thai.

Barfine is now 2,000 Baht if you take out the girl early.

The rest is self-explanatory.

However, I do not understand the last part regarding short-time. But it looks like they are seriously putting mileage on the girls. And 50 bucks should be 50 Baht.Makes sense. Maybe Mr Flowers wants a higher quality Bargirl. Hahaha.

[Falcon 95]

Looks like girls get 50 baht of the 400 room fee / BF for ST upstairs, and 100 of the 800 BF if you take her out for 2 hrs, not into the room.Thanks. It makes sense now.

[GentileBear]

If not Soy 6 then where? I am somewhat tech savvy but admittingly not patient. I have used Thai Friendly and Tinder in past trips and here is what happens:

Me. Hello, I am near LK Metro. Would love to meet you now!

Girl on Tinder: Hi.

Me. Can you come to my hotel?

Girl on Tinder: Hi.

Me. Meet me? Yes.

Girl on Tinder: Hi.

Me. Are you wanting shot time?

Girl on Tinder: shot tym.

Me- short time. I want to meet you.

Girl on Tinder: Hi.

I am not even exaggerating. I did try using a translator but it didn't really help. Plus. After confirming a date. Then who knows if they will be within an hour of their stated arrival. Total disaster! Walking Street has psychotic prices and the Big clubs by LK Metro are. Meh. And overpriced.

-I have had success with apps on Jakarta and Angeles City but it doesn't work for me in Pattaya. I travel alone and so far Beach Road and Soy 6 work. I 'd be willing to try a new Soy if anyone cares to post.

[Falcon 95]

IMHO Soi 6 has been going downhill since they appeared on the scene and started buying bars. It used to be a fairly quiet soi with no open bars or loud music. Gals would sit outside and wait for customers to take them in and have a drink and a shag. It opened about 2:00 pm And was over pretty much right after the sun went down. It was nice and low-key with lots of gems to be found.

Now, no thanks.Then, the Bryan Flowers guy single-handedly destroyed all of Soi 6? How did he do that? Is he that rich and powerful?

[XXL]

Heading to Pattaya tomorrow just for the BEEJESUS of it.

One week at Red Planet is $126 per its own website. That tells me no way can Pattaya be that busy. No offense to the fella who says Patts is still packed.LK The Empress on Beach Rd shows up at 11k Baht a night! In October I still got it at 2k Baht a night.

[SplitPersona]

A lady upfront sitting. At a table is actively recruiting.

Couple of girls from dollhouse took a bunch of fliers from her.

Also saw a girl from Moon gogo wearing bypass gogo wardrobe. Never heard of bypass gogo!

[SplitPersona]

Opposite jannat club. For 100 b. They will place 4 very active snakes with fangs. On you. All four at the same time.

[SplitPersona]

I followed a flagged China tour last night and am alive to talk about it!

Their guide gave a lecture outside champion Thai boxing club on walking street.

Then they were all seated in chairs.

Guide then asked them a question and a few hands went up (including the old ladies).

I was guessing What the tour guide ask?

Who wants to get in the ring? Who wants to use toilet??

I was Not sure. But I soon understood as about 8 bottled beers were served in a group of about 20. Not bad.

Then the boxers did a meet and greet and clapping ensured.

They spent about half an hour there and were then escorted through the marine club area to reserved baht buses.

I gave up the pursuit there.

[Mua Tur]

If not Soy 6 then where? I am somewhat tech savvy but admittingly not patient. I have used Thai Friendly and Tinder in past trips and here is what happens:

..........

I am not even exaggerating. I did try using a translator but it didn't really help. Plus. After confirming a date. Then who knows if they will be within an hour of their stated arrival. Total disaster! Walking Street has psychotic prices and the Big clubs by LK Metro are. Meh. And overpriced.

-I have had success with apps on Jakarta and Angeles City but it doesn't work for me in Pattaya. I travel alone and so far Beach Road and Soy 6 work. I 'd be willing to try a new Soy if anyone cares to post.Yes for Thailand the translators are big support. In Line or DIA itself have translation service. For chatting I paste my words in Thai by the help from translator. The dating Apps are always great source for me to meet girls. Relatively low cost and a short time Girl Friends. Just need patience and time to let the girl feel comfort with me.

[Explorer8939]

LK The Empress on Beach Rd shows up at 11k Baht a night! In October I still got it at 2k Baht a night.LK The Empress is $84 for a studio on Expedia.

But, yes, Pattaya is very busy now.

[Turgid]

I can't have sex on the 2nd floor of a Thailand bar with no AC. I also can't have sex on a mattress with springs sticking out of them. Yes, I have experienced both. Same as I can't have sex at Oase in one of those closets beside the hot tub or at Sharks when the AC is broken in the Summer, which ime was often. If I'm paying a bar a barfine to use their room I expect a serviceable room. I also expect the bar to take some pride and fire girls that are lousy but we know that rarely happens.I have not had sex on the 2nd floor of a Thailand bar with no AC but I have experienced sex at Oase in one of those closets beside the hot tub and at Sharks when the AC is broken in the summer, with hot young girls with both of us soaking wet with sweat and me climaxing with a huge smile on my face. No bad service girls in any circumstance please.

[Mr Enternational]

If not Soy 6 then where? I am somewhat tech savvy but admittingly not patient. I have used Thai Friendly and Tinder in past trips and here is what happens:

Me. Hello, I am near LK Metro. Would love to meet you now!

Girl on Tinder: Hi.

Me. Can you come to my hotel?You are speaking too much English. Just try saying "when you come see me."

[Falcon 95]

A lady upfront sitting. At a table is actively recruiting.

Couple of girls from dollhouse took a bunch of fliers from her.

Also saw a girl from Moon gogo wearing bypass gogo wardrobe. Never heard of bypass gogo!I believe Moon Agogo was called Bypass agogo before.

[Werqweq]

I remember when I visited VN a local told me that they count age different there. They add one more year to their age as if on the date of their birth they are already 1 year old. Maybe that's similiar to what they do in TH. That was a few decades ago not sure if that's what's going on or she's just trying to trick you LOL But yea like the other guy said content age is 18 so you should be good.That is somewhat correct as far as thais are concerned. When asked what their age is, most thai in my experience will answer with the age they will be on their coming birthday, and probably that was the reason for the confusion. So if a girl answers you she is 18, either you could be in trouble, or she could be aware that westerners expect her to answer the age she celebrated on her last birthday, rather than what she will celebrate on her next.

[Paolo99]

Then, the Bryan Flowers guy single-handedly destroyed all of Soi 6? How did he do that? Is he that rich and powerful?These two pics have been posted on facebook by one of their recruiters a few days ago.

You can count 18 bars from the same group in a single soi.

Easy to understand how much they affect the whole soi when they have so many bars. And some other bars from their group are not even featured on these pics because they didn't reopen yet (like "the pussy club "bar for example).

[SoberHans69]

Then, the Bryan Flowers guy single-handedly destroyed all of Soi 6? How did he do that? Is he that rich and powerful?It's definitely gotten a lot worse since the introduction of all the open facing bars and a lot of their bars are full of groups of their BMs just drinking for ages with the hottest girls with no intention of taking them ST.

Also smart phones are to blame for the demise of mongering in Pattaya bars in general. The girls no longer are desperate to f*ck for money as they get idiots sending them money from abroad without any physical contact.

[Explorer8939]

It's definitely gotten a lot worse since the introduction of all the open facing bars and a lot of their bars are full of groups of their BMs just drinking for ages with the hottest girls with no intention of taking them ST.

Also smart phones are to blame for the demise of mongering in Pattaya bars in general. The girls no longer are desperate to f*ck for money as they get idiots sending them money from abroad without any physical contact.It's not as if there aren't literally 1000's of other bars in other areas in the event that you can't cope with Soi 6.

And, without smart phones, I could not keep in touch with the dozens of young ladies who regularly entertain me.

But, yes, the morons who send money for nothing are negatively impacting Pattaya, since the recipient ladies don't have to do anything to earn money for their Thai boyfriends.

[GoFourIt]

It's definitely gotten a lot worse since the introduction of all the open facing bars and a lot of their bars are full of groups of their BMs just drinking for ages with the hottest girls with no intention of taking them ST.

Also smart phones are to blame for the demise of mongering in Pattaya bars in general. The girls no longer are desperate to f*ck for money as they get idiots sending them money from abroad without any physical contact.What does BM mean?

[Explorer8939]

I took one for the team yesterday, I had my regular massage lady over for drinks, and invited another lady. After everyone was blitzed, they took off my shorts, and then the massage lady demonstrated the male pressure points for prostate massage. So, now, another lady in Pattaya knows about prostate massage, which is a very good thing for you.

[Falcon 95]

It's definitely gotten a lot worse since the introduction of all the open facing bars and a lot of their bars are full of groups of their BMs just drinking for ages with the hottest girls with no intention of taking them ST.

Also smart phones are to blame for the demise of mongering in Pattaya bars in general. The girls no longer are desperate to f*ck for money as they get idiots sending them money from abroad without any physical contact.What is a BM?

Also, I think Covid ruined the mongering scene with the live streams. The girls now know they can still make a lot of money from just drinks. I hear there are many drinks-only girls nowadays. Whereas before Covid, that was rare.

Desire on Soi 6 and Sexy Bar are still doing the live streams on Youtube and guys are still sending them drinks online. And it looks like they'll keep doing the live streams forever, or as long as guys are sending drinks.

[Falcon 95]

That is somewhat correct as far as thais are concerned. When asked what their age is, most thai in my experience will answer with the age they will be on their coming birthday, and probably that was the reason for the confusion. So if a girl answers you she is 18, either you could be in trouble, or she could be aware that westerners expect her to answer the age she celebrated on her last birthday, rather than what she will celebrate on her next.That makes sense now. One time in LK Metro, I asked a girl her age. She said she was 23. But then when I checked her ID, she was only 22, three months before her 23rd birthday.

So Panda was really 18 at the time.

[Falcon 95]

This girl at Kawaii Bar on Soi 6 seems to be crazy. I entered the bar and she followed me and asked what I wanted. When she brought my beer, she slammed it on the table, gave me a dirty look and left. I think it was her way of telling me, "Don't even try to barfine me. I'm not interested. " I believe she was waiting for her regular barfine customer that night.

I managed to get her name. Her name is Wan. My dick wants to fuck her. But my brain says she will be a nightmare to deal with.

[LittleBigMan]

You are speaking too much English. Just try saying "when you come see me."Correct, many forget whatever translation they are using keep it very simple less than a sentence, and don't assume because they speak a bit of English you can speak to them as if they are doing each day on their own!

For example, " meet me at Soi? Across the Soi in front of Gold Lampost " Sound simple right but what the hell is a Gold Lampost you leaving it up to them because you think they speak a bit of English?

Unless they attended a real International School which in the P4 P is zero in general I mean slim and none. Just because they don't ask means they understand the culture in general asking questions means you are stupid.

[Banana Boi]

This girl at Kawaii Bar on Soi 6 seems to be crazy. I entered the bar and she followed me and asked what I wanted. When she brought my beer, she slammed it on the table, gave me a dirty look and left. I think it was her way of telling me, "Don't even try to barfine me. I'm not interested. " I believe she was waiting for her regular barfine customer that night.

I managed to get her name. Her name is Wan. My dick wants to fuck her. But my brain says she will be a nightmare to deal with.You did it wrong if you wanted to fuck her. When you ordered your drink you ask her to order one for herself too. You didn't do that which is why she came back all pissed. I'm assuming you pulled her in to the bar with you or she was the girl you made puppy dog eyes with to get her to join you. Sure you don't have to buy a girl a drink at bars in Soi 6 but be prepared to lose pretty ones if you don't buy her a drink. She had no regular coming. If she did she would have been sitting at the back of her bar eating som tam.

[Falcon 95]

You did it wrong if you wanted to fuck her. When you ordered your drink you ask her to order one for herself too. You didn't do that which is why she came back all pissed. I'm assuming you pulled her in to the bar with you or she was the girl you made puppy dog eyes with to get her to join you. Sure you don't have to buy a girl a drink at bars in Soi 6 but be prepared to lose pretty ones if you don't buy her a drink. She had no regular coming. If she did she would have been sitting at the back of her bar eating som tam.While I probably should have bought her a drink regardless, I still believe that she was in a hurry to go to the front of the bar to welcome whomever she was waiting for. In my experience, they will sit or stand with you if they have nothing better to do. But you are the Pattaya expert.

[Member #4807]

Who is into grannies there is one at LE Poste BJ bar on soi lengkee. Not so much lookers in there and I left after a 90 baht singha bottle. This grannie age like 70 years old or equivalent. While entering they all greet you like parish church choir in one voice of welcome sir LOL.

[Ass Addict]

I think it was her way of telling me, "Don't even try to barfine me. I'm not interested. " I believe she was waiting for her regular barfine customer that night.

I managed to get her name. Her name is Wan. My dick wants to fuck her. But my brain says she will be a nightmare to deal with.She wouldn't have followed you if she was not interested.

[Mr Enternational]

When she brought my beer, she slammed it on the table, gave me a dirty look and left. I think it was her way of telling me, "Don't even try to barfine me. I'm not interested. " I believe she was waiting for her regular barfine customer that night.Why think and believe when you could have just asked?

[ThaiGoodTimes]

That makes sense now. One time in LK Metro, I asked a girl her age. She said she was 23. But then when I checked her ID, she was only 22, three months before her 23rd birthday.

So Panda was really 18 at the time.It's more simple to understand than that.

Thais when born are 1 year old.

Every birthday they add a year.

Essentially they are saying they are in their "nth" year, not that they have completed "and" years since birth.

[ThaiGoodTimes]

What is a BM?

Also, I think Covid ruined the mongering scene with the live streams. The girls now know they can still make a lot of money from just drinks. I hear there are many drinks-only girls nowadays. Whereas before Covid, that was rare.

Desire on Soi 6 and Sexy Bar are still doing the live streams on Youtube and guys are still sending them drinks online. And it looks like they'll keep doing the live streams forever, or as long as guys are sending drinks.BM aka Best Mates.

[Christian G]

You did it wrong if you wanted to fuck her. When you ordered your drink you ask her to order one for herself too. You didn't do that which is why she came back all pissed. I'm assuming you pulled her in to the bar with you or she was the girl you made puppy dog eyes with to get her to join you. Sure you don't have to buy a girl a drink at bars in Soi 6 but be prepared to lose pretty ones if you don't buy her a drink. She had no regular coming. If she did she would have been sitting at the back of her bar eating som tam.So is always a customer fail? why you assuming what you can't know? I really don't understand these arguments. These girls should start to learn how to behave and earn their ladydrinks! Next time when she bring a beer to a customer, she can sit next to him and start to rubbing his cock and ask if he want a ST or if he want drink together.

Anyway is not my problem, I not go to soi6 for drinks. Only straight upstair for ST with girls who accept my offers. IMHO guys should always talk with girls outside the bar before enter.

[Cha Chumplin]

What is a BM?

Also, I think Covid ruined the mongering scene with the live streams. The girls now know they can still make a lot of money from just drinks. I hear there are many drinks-only girls nowadays. Whereas before Covid, that was rare.

Desire on Soi 6 and Sexy Bar are still doing the live streams on Youtube and guys are still sending them drinks online. And it looks like they'll keep doing the live streams forever, or as long as guys are sending drinks.Desire Bar. Number 8 Priew is mega Hot.

Sexy Bar. Lots of women who are built like Oxen. Lots meaning all. Hahaha.

My gut tells me online isn't killing Pattaya. If it were more Bars would be streaming.

[Falcon 95]

So is always a customer fail? why you assuming what you can't know? I really don't understand these arguments. These girls should start to learn how to behave and earn their ladydrinks! Next time when she bring a beer to a customer, she can sit next to him and start to rubbing his cock and ask if he want a ST or if he want drink together.

Anyway is not my problem, I not go to soi6 for drinks. Only straight upstair for ST with girls who accept my offers. IMHO guys should always talk with girls outside the bar before enter.It's cool. I don't think it was my fault. But I don't mind getting feedback from other members. I like your two suggestions. Going straight upstairs for ST and talking to the girls outside before entering the bar.

[Mr Enternational]

Anyway is not my problem, I not go to soi6 for drinks. Only straight upstair for ST with girls who accept my offers. IMHO guys should always talk with girls outside the bar before enter.I do not feel sorry because men always do it to themselves then have the nerve to complain. No way going to pick up a hooker should be the subject of so much pondering and debate. You arrive with money and she is there with pussy. Pay the chick and go fuck for god sake. The shit is not complicated.

[Cha Chumplin]

1st impressed.

General observation. Pattaya is busy. Lots of what looks like Russian.

Soi 6 at 9 pm. There are a lot of girls. Most Bars still devoid of customers.

Some girls are Blessed with decent looks.

[SplitPersona]

So is always a customer fail? why you assuming what you can't know? I really don't understand these arguments. These girls should start to learn how to behave and earn their ladydrinks! Next time when she bring a beer to a customer, she can sit next to him and start to rubbing his cock and ask if he want a ST or if he want drink together.

Anyway is not my problem, I not go to soi6 for drinks. Only straight upstair for ST with girls who accept my offers. IMHO guys should always talk with girls outside the bar before enter.Since we were not there and you asked us, all we can do is make educated assumptions.

Agree with the previous response. Other assumption is that she remembers you from your previous visits.

Have you been there before?

Also, what happened? How long did you stay? Did some one else buy her anything?

[SplitPersona]

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[SplitPersona]

I took one for the team yesterday, I had my regular massage lady over for drinks, and invited another lady. After everyone was blitzed, they took off my shorts, and then the massage lady demonstrated the male pressure points for prostate massage. So, now, another lady in Pattaya knows about prostate massage, which is a very good thing for you.To do the prostate message, don't they have to go inside you. You are a brave man.

BTW what tequila do you give them. Patron, don Julio 1947?

[Christian G]

What is a BM?Board Members. Nightwish group own a Pattaya's forum.

[Christian G]

Since we were not there and you asked us, all we can do is make educated assumptions.
Agree with the previous response. Other assumption is that she remembers you from your previous visits.
Have you been there before?
Also, what happened? How long did you stay? Did some one else buy her anything?Read well, then re-read. You should learn how to quote and who you quote. You look like a troll to me.

[Banana Boi]

So is always a customer fail? why you assuming what you can't know? I really don't understand these arguments.I think my point was really put yourself in the best position possible with the girl. For me it's buy her a drink. In Pattaya, I'm really just trying to kill time with a pretty girl anyways so that drink kills 20-30 minutes of time and tells me if she is good at DFK and if I like her tits before I spend money taking her upstairs.


I not go to soi6 for drinks. Only straight upstair for ST with girls who accept my offers. IMHO guys should always talk with girls outside the bar before enter.Since I've actually been to bars with you I know you have a very good game. Likely the best I've seen out of anyone I've hung out with. Most guys including myself can only aspire to have the game you have. You are correct if you don't want to buy drinks the best way is to talk to the girl before you enter the bar.


She wouldn't have followed you if she was not interested.

Absolutely true.

[Christian G]

Since I've actually been to bars with you I know you have a very good game. Most guys including myself can only aspire to have the game you have. You are correct if you don't want to buy drinks the best way is to talk to the girl before you enter the bar.Thanks, but I don't think I'm doing anything special. I know what I want and I know how I want to spend my money. So I talk to the girl first. Everyone can do it.

In soi6 girls are sit outside the bar or stand in the street try to stop you, easy to talk with them before enter the bar and ask what I want to know.

[Goatscrot]

Then, the Bryan Flowers guy single-handedly destroyed all of Soi 6? How did he do that? Is he that rich and powerful?He completely changed the nature of the entire soi. Back in the day, if you wanted to party in open air bars you went to the beer bars on soi 7 and 8. If you wanted to get laid you went to the brothels on soi 6. Punters didn't sit and drink with gals very much on 6. If you even had a drink it was ane quick one and then it was upstairs. Nightwish change that model by opening up the bars and making it into more of a beer bar atmosphere and as was stated in a recent post, a place for guys to sit and drink with gals. They had no problem if you just wanted to grab them from outside of the bar and go right upstairs. They weren't working there to make money from drinks. In addition, no loud music, it was a very quiet soi even when all the "bars" were opan. I'm sure NW group has done very well for themselves financially, but the model they adopted just doesn't interest me. Soi 6 was incredibly unique for the Thailand P4P scene. Now, it's just like any other loud bar area.

[Explorer8939]

To do the prostate message, don't they have to go inside you. You are a brave man.

BTW what tequila do you give them. Patron, don Julio 1947?No going inside, it's all outside.

The tequila is either Jose Cuervo or Camarena, I don't have the money for Patron.

The lady who was the student the other day got to demonstrate her new learning last night. She couldn't stop, so after an hour, I pulled her on top for a fuck, so I could finish. Which I did, quickly.

[Banana Boi]

The open beer bar was fine but it was that British tabloid that brought a ton of bad press in 2016 or 2017 when they published a story and photos of a guy / girl having sex right at the counter along Soi 6. Before that we could strip down every single girl in the open air bar and they wouldn't care. In fact it was the norm. I remember the good old days of Soi 6 in 2016 when I have several naked girls on me and DFKing them all for the price a 1 lady drink. Now bar owners are seemingly terrified of that happening. Also so many pussy wimp guys go there now and expect nothing but a smile and holding hands for their lady drinks.

[Goatscrot]

The open beer bar was fine but it was that British tabloid that brought a ton of bad press in 2016 or 2017 when they published a story and photos of a guy / girl having sex right at the counter along Soi 6. Before that we could strip down every single girl in the open air bar and they wouldn't care. In fact it was the norm. I remember the good old days of Soi 6 in 2016 when I have several naked girls on me and DFKing them all for the price a 1 lady drink. Now bar owners are seemingly terrified of that happening. Also so many pussy wimp guys go there now and expect nothing but a smile and holding hands for their lady drinks.Most of my Soi 6 time was between '01 and '10. It began to become a bit different after that. Even though I'm a BKK resident I used to spend at least three nights or so a month in Pattaya during those years. You had the place to yourself during low season. Soi 6 was another level with many of the gals providing PSE and most all good performers. I remember this gal out of Ruby Pub, light skinned, great face, ripping body, no baby, loved to be spanked, a true three holer, and could just go and go. Some great memories.

And 6 closed early, always before midnight and the majority of the gals headed to walking straight to either Tony's or Marine. Many times you could just grab them off the street on the way. Walking street was amazing at night. You couldn't make it 5 m without a gal saying "Go with you. " And of course then there's the fact that most of those girls wanted 500 Baht.

[Goatscrot]

The open beer bar was fine but it was that British tabloid that brought a ton of bad press in 2016 or 2017 when they published a story and photos of a guy / girl having sex right at the counter along Soi 6. Before that we could strip down every single girl in the open air bar and they wouldn't care. In fact it was the norm. I remember the good old days of Soi 6 in 2016 when I have several naked girls on me and DFKing them all for the price a 1 lady drink. Now bar owners are seemingly terrified of that happening. Also so many pussy wimp guys go there now and expect nothing but a smile and holding hands for their lady drinks.Most of my Soi 6 time was between '01 and '10. It began to become a bit different after that. Even though I'm a BKK resident I used to spend at least three nights or so a month in Pattaya during those years. You had the place to yourself during low season. Soi 6 was another level with many of the gals providing PSE and most all good performers. I remember this gal out of Ruby Pub, light skinned, great face, ripping body, no baby, loved to be spanked, a true three holer, and could just go and go. Some great memories.

And 6 closed early, always before midnight and the majority of the gals headed to walking straight to either Tony's or Marine. Many times you could just grab them off the street on the way. Walking street was amazing at night. You couldn't make it 5 m without a gal saying "Go with you. " And of course then there's the fact that most of those girls wanted 500 Baht.

[GentileBear]

One thing I don't like about Soy 6 that happens even worse than on Beach Road is the abundance of new Vloggers (phone videos on selfie sticks, go pro cameras) - almost as many of these guys walking around then the fake rolex watch guys. What is scary. Is my eyes are only decent, not 20 20 and I was usually very drunk. What's up with all the guys wearing backpacks or oddly large packages? I would think at least a few of those guys are carrying cameras and recording too.

Glad I am not married. Lots of videos being made showing mongers faces.

[Fmojo]

What does BM mean?Board member.

[Goatscrot]

One thing I don't like about Soy 6 that happens even worse than on Beach Road is the abundance of new Vloggers (phone videos on selfie sticks, go pro cameras) - almost as many of these guys walking around then the fake rolex watch guys. What is scary. Is my eyes are only decent, not 20 20 and I was usually very drunk. What's up with all the guys wearing backpacks or oddly large packages? I would think at least a few of those guys are carrying cameras and recording too.

Glad I am not married. Lots of videos being made showing mongers faces.Agreed. In late 99 I just happened to have my camera around my neck when headed down Soi Cowboy. No less than three punters came up to me and told me not to take any pictures. Of course I already knew that. It was an unwritten rule that no one took pictures in p4 p areas and we all respected that.

[Falcon 95]

Desire Bar. Number 8 Priew is mega Hot.

Sexy Bar. Lots of women who are built like Oxen. Lots meaning all. Hahaha.

My gut tells me online isn't killing Pattaya. If it were more Bars would be streaming.This is a picture of Priew.

[Downandup]

Board Members. Nightwish group own a Pattaya's forum.Not quite, Bryan Flowers part owns Nightwish and part owns that board, he's also into a few other businesses. But it's the reason why the board is not a shill for Nightwish, there is a lot of good content there and it's open to other bar's and members talk about anything they want.

[Cha Chumplin]

2 data points.

Seems one of the top bars in Treetown is Buzzin Bar. Look packed.

The are around. Proverbial GEM. In Treetown Sports Bar or something. God blessed her really big time. Seemed down to earth. Hahaha. Just an observation.

[Banana Boi]

Agreed. In late 99 I just happened to have my camera around my neck when headed down Soi Cowboy. No less than three punters came up to me and told me not to take any pictures. Of course I already knew that. It was an unwritten rule that no one took pictures in p4 p areas and we all respected that.The difference is now anyone can afford a 4 k action camera or SLR and they take videos to make money on a Social platform like YouTube, FB, IG, etc. The sluttier the place with more girls the more money they make. Sex sells.

[Turgid]

Agreed. In late 99 I just happened to have my camera around my neck when headed down Soi Cowboy. No less than three punters came up to me and told me not to take any pictures. Of course I already knew that. It was an unwritten rule that no one took pictures in p4 p areas and we all respected that.Before the advent of the internet I was able to indulge in a second favorite hobby of mine, taking naked and porn photos and videos of girls that I bang. Back then (70's, 80's and early 90's) almost all girls allowed it. Then came the internet and all that changed. I have tons of photos and VHS tapes of my exploits. One day I'm going to digitize them. Not too sure if the VHS tapes are viable now though.

[Lucky Nuts]

One thing I don't like about Soy 6 that happens even worse than on Beach Road is the abundance of new Vloggers (phone videos on selfie sticks, go pro cameras) - almost as many of these guys walking around then the fake rolex watch guys. What is scary. Is my eyes are only decent, not 20 20 and I was usually very drunk. What's up with all the guys wearing backpacks or oddly large packages? I would think at least a few of those guys are carrying cameras and recording too.

Glad I am not married. Lots of videos being made showing mongers faces.I am often traveling in many different countries and I see guys in their 20's and 30's with their backpacks. My guess is they are traveling the world on a tight budget and staying in hostels with shared accomodations and always carry all their valuables with them. Just my guess.

And about the guys making videos. Who cares? Only other mongers ever going to see them videos.

[Falcon 95]

Why think and believe when you could have just asked?I did. She said no. Actually, her exact answer was, "Cannot."

[Goatscrot]

I am often traveling in many different countries and I see guys in their 20's and 30's with their backpacks. My guess is they are traveling the world on a tight budget and staying in hostels with shared accomodations and always carry all their valuables with them. Just my guess.

And about the guys making videos. Who cares? Only other mongers ever going to see them videos.You'd be surprised what pops up in people's YouTube feeds.

[Mr Enternational]

And about the guys making videos. Who cares? Only other mongers ever going to see them videos.That is why I called BS that time someone in the Medellin thread said that some chick's family saw a video that someone had made walking through the hooker area and she was on it. Foreign guy makes obscure video for a specific foreign audience and local people come across it by chance and comb through it and see their relative? They should have spent that luck on the lotto instead.


You'd be surprised what pops up in people's YouTube feeds.I would be really surprised. All the mongering that I have done and never has any random monger shit just popped up on my youtube. Neither has any random shit about planting a garden. And if by chance it did, then I am not bored enough to sift through 30 minutes of some shit I am not interested in and and notice some dude I went to high school with was at the 12:18 mark for all of 2 seconds.

[HorseTrader]

The difference is now anyone can afford a 4 k action camera or SLR and they take videos to make money on a Social platform like YouTube, FB, IG, etc. The sluttier the place with more girls the more money they make. Sex sells.Last night at about 9:00 PM a man was shooting video west to east as he walked along the north side of Soi 6. I have no idea if it will appear on social media, but I'll keep my eyes open. He was clearly targeting the girls, most of whom were oblivious to his presence, he certainly wasn't trying to take pictures of the few present men. I was walking behind him with my camera ready to video him, should he decide to turn and video me (he didn't).

He was not subtle about what he was doing. He used a pocket camera held with two hands in front of him as he walked at a slow to medium pace, which allowed the pedestrians in front of him build a gap ahead and caused a cluster of people behind him, I chose to stay behind.

[Turgid]

....And about the guys making videos. Who cares? Only other mongers ever going to see them videos.Unless you live in the States and have a crazy ass ex who's even willing to hire a private detective to make trouble for you.

[SlangTeng]

Booked to go to Bangkok and Pattaya for Songkran. There will also be a rap festival in town that I will check out. I've done Colombia and DR but now it is time to see what the hype is about surrounding Thailand. I've made it through maybe 25 pages of forum. There seems to be more information regarding Thailand than other locations I have been to. I want to see why guys say Thailand is so amazing and why it seems plenty prefer it to DR.

[Cha Chumplin]

Did I Hear correctly?

Price going up over 100 % next month. No not Noi on Soi 6.

Burger King Beach Road coffee going from present 29 baht to 59 or 69 baht start March. OMG. I'm assuming all branches will participate, at least the ones in heavy tourist areas.

[Horatio]

There will come a time when the internet will be able to search videos for people. You will be able to search millions of videos to find people you search for.

Just my prediction for what it's worth.


Unless you live in the States and have a crazy ass ex who's even willing to hire a private detective to make trouble for you.

[Explorer8939]

Booked to go to Bangkok and Pattaya for Songkran. There will also be a rap festival in town that I will check out. I've done Colombia and DR but now it is time to see what the hype is about surrounding Thailand. I've made it through maybe 25 pages of forum. There seems to be more information regarding Thailand than other locations I have been to. I want to see why guys say Thailand is so amazing and why it seems plenty prefer it to DR.It's a hip hop festival.

[Cha Chumplin]

Booked to go to Bangkok and Pattaya for Songkran. There will also be a rap festival in town that I will check out. I've done Colombia and DR but now it is time to see what the hype is about surrounding Thailand. I've made it through maybe 25 pages of forum. There seems to be more information regarding Thailand than other locations I have been to. I want to see why guys say Thailand is so amazing and why it seems plenty prefer it to DR.Problem with Songrjkran is a lot of Girls go home to their Village.

So much so you can tell the difference. Add to that numbers are already down.

Just keep your enthusiasm in Check.

[Christian G]

Booked to go to Bangkok and Pattaya for Songkran. There will also be a rap festival in town that I will check out. Songkran and Pattaya together, you picked the worst time of the year IMHO. I did songkran once in Pattaya, never again in my life, even if I had a free trip.

[Explorer8939]

I had a silicon enhanced MILF over to my condo today. She was complaining about her Farang boyfriend, but I told her not to worry, since he was giving her 50,000 baht a month.

After some tequila, she was naked and straddling my face, while another lady was giving me a HJ. And then the HJ turned into a fuck.

Just another day in Pattaya.

[Mr Enternational]

Booked to go to Bangkok and Pattaya for Songkran. There will also be a rap festival in town that I will check out. I've done Colombia and DR but now it is time to see what the hype is about surrounding Thailand. I've made it through maybe 25 pages of forum. There seems to be more information regarding Thailand than other locations I have been to. I want to see why guys say Thailand is so amazing and why it seems plenty prefer it to DR.LOL. Did you even mention DR in the same sentence with Thailand? At least you could have stepped up to Colombia. Yeah Rolling Loud is coming April 13-15.

[Banana Boi]

Songkran and Pattaya together, you picked the worst time of the year IMHO. I did songkran once in Pattaya, never again in my life, even if I had a free trip.I lived in Pattaya and always left during Songkran. Bunch of muscleheads who haven't grown up yet acting like big shots with water pistols.

A deadly combination of the most guys and fewest girls actually working. Those girls who stick around town are doing Songkran, not working.

[MartinFlevo]

I had a silicon enhanced MILF over to my condo today. She was complaining about her Farang boyfriend, but I told her not to worry, since he was giving her 50,000 baht a month.

After some tequila, she was naked and straddling my face, while another lady was giving me a HJ. And then the HJ turned into a fuck.

Just another day in Pattaya.Imagine how valuable your posts could be if you actually share info about pricing etc. Now its just one big diary from a narcist that adds zero value to this topic.

Feel kinda sorry for you mate.

[Banana Boi]

Imagine how valuable your posts could be if you actually share info about pricing etc. Now its just one big diary from a narcist that adds zero value to this topic.
I'm feeling left out. I'll adjust Explorer's post to my day yesterday.

I had a pretty young naturally busty ex-coworker (silicon enhanced MILF) over to my house (condo) today. She was complaining about my smelly feet (her Farang boyfriend), but I told her not to worry since we could shower together (since he was giving her 50,000 baht a month).

After a nice bubble bath with Mr. Bubble (some tequila), she was laying on her tits so I could see side breasts only while I prone boned her (naked and straddling my face) then did anal. We were hungry after so went for some ramen near Canal.

Sorry no restaurant or girl named to protect the innocent. Price? A priceless afternoon in NYC.

[Explorer8939]

Imagine how valuable your posts could be if you actually share info about pricing etc. Now its just one big diary from a narcist that adds zero value to this topic.

Feel kinda sorry for you mate.Always the same price, 2000 baht for 3 or 4 hours.

What the lady does is up to her. Of course, she knows if she does nothing, she probably isn't coming bac.

[Banana Boi]

Imagine how valuable your posts could be if you actually share info about pricing etc. Now its just one big diary from a narcist that adds zero value to this topic.

Feel kinda sorry for you mate.

Vagueness is prevalent on ISG, especially in the Thailand threads. It's almost like posts are just made up. Try going on the Jakarta thread and start posting stuff about the "secret" bars. You'll instantly get PM's telling you to not post about these bars. On the Vietnam forum nothing is ever mentioned. Everything is top secret. So much to do in Vietnam and so many nice teen and early 20's girls for cheap but you won't hear a word about it on ISG.

There should be a section on ISG where you only have access to if Admin feels you are have contributed enough relevant information in your posts overt time including girl's names/numbers, bar names, and pricing, and what is currently hot and not hot in the city. If you become inactive in providing DETAILED information to that section of the board the guys in that section can vote to have you removed. The Admin should be longstanding useful members who lives in the city. Pattaya - Mr. E and LBM. BKK Goats and ET.

[Explorer8939]

More on my mongering in Pattaya.

I start off in a bar, when I barfine a lady to go back to my condo to drink tequila. I always have decent real tequila in my freezer, plus lemons and salt.

The lady will stay for a few hours, and most of the time, the session will end with a fuck, but there will be lots of foreplay.

Maybe 5 percent of the time, the lady will be a complete dud, just not into it at all, and I will send her back to the bar with 1000 baht.

I repeat with the good ones, and sometimes they ask if they can bring a friend. Sometimes the friend works out better than the first lady. Sometimes the lady brings a real good friend who can make her cum. But once I have the friend's Facebook, I am free to have the friend come alone.

Using this method, I usually have a rotation of 30 ladies I can choose from. The rotation changes as some ladies get knocked up and go home, or some sponsor will try to take them off the market, or they get married.

I rarely go to a bar to get a lady, most just come to my condo. When I do go to a bar, its to find a new lady, or sometimes I don't have the Facebook or LINE of some lady who came over once.

What I don't do is chat with the ladies online. They are busy, so my interactions are only about date and time. Or to say thank you after they leave.

If some lady pings me to request a date, I will respond, but random chatting almost always ends up with a request for money.

[LittleBigMan]

Booked to go to Bangkok and Pattaya for Songkran. There will also be a rap festival in town that I will check out. I've done Colombia and DR but now it is time to see what the hype is about surrounding Thailand. I've made it through maybe 25 pages of forum. There seems to be more information regarding Thailand than other locations I have been to. I want to see why guys say Thailand is so amazing and why it seems plenty prefer it to DR.The majority of the things being said about Songkran are very true! But what is done too late to back out now? I believe in Bangkok, can be confirmed by others is basically 3 days something like the 13th-15th, the closure of roads, and water throwing.

If you are the stiff-shirt type of guy dress shirt, long pants, and black socks will not go well for you. In Pattaya, it goes on much too long March 13th thru the 20th, in different locations throughout Chon Buri Province. In Pattaya, it will start on the 13th, down in the tourist area, particularly Beach road where there is lots of water throwing. Pretty much dress as if you are going to the Beach wear sunglasses and wrap your phones and stuff in a plastic bag they will be selling 7/11 plastic covers that you can wear over your neck.

As noted even before Covid many do travel back to their villages this is basically their New Year's but if you never experience it you will never know when it comes to driving it is one of the most dangerous times on the road. The date is embedded into my head for life April 18th, the day I came within an inch or less of the end, the birth of my granddaughter 18th of April has erased much of that day so driving up to the wife's farm during Songkran should be a breeze?

[Explorer8939]

Occasionally, I will rent a hotel room with a jacuzzi for a lady I have been with before (so I know she is going to show up). My go. To hotel is Cape Dara Resort. Very few Farangs tgere, mostly HISO Thais or Chinese residents.

I get a room with a jacuzzi and bring cheap shampoo to make bubbles.

Thai ladies don't like hot water generally, and aren't used to baths, which makes them hesitant to try. After a few drinks, they will get in, and most seem to enjoy it. The vast majority try getting on top for a jacuzzi fuck, but its harder than you think. Its not easy for a lady's pussy to contain a soapy dick. After a while, we hit the bed for real sex.

A great change of pace.

[XXL]

... wrap your phones and stuff in a plastic bag they will be selling 7/11 plastic covers that you can wear over your neck.
...Not to mention hearing aids. What I resented most when getting spashed was that 1) the water was ice-cold 2) gypsum paste got thrown as well. What about having some peee at the ready to retaliate?

[Explorer8939]

I would like to get out of Pattaya for Songkran, but I suspect that everywhere in Thailand will be jammed with regugees from Bangkok.

So, where to go?

[LittleBigMan]

Not to mention hearing aids. What I resented most when getting spashed was that 1) the water was ice-cold 2) gypsum paste got thrown as well. What about having some peee at the ready to retaliate?Yes, I can imagine if you have a medical condition such as eyes or ear that certainly will be a problem. Guess one would have to just sack it in plastic if one is to participate.

This time of the year living here the past few have been great nice and quiet the way things should be celebrated. If one is to partake as I had for a number of years while my son was growing up like most things you prepare yourself basically with swim gear. All out I was never one to do the paste stuff but expect it guilty I loved the freezing cold because it was hard work and HOT, I took him and his friends around in the back of the truck giant bucket every chance we had I brought blocks of Ice being so hot I actually welcomed it.

Talking about Pee, years ago I went out to WS, it was the 20th, told the drunk guy don't lie about going to work he still dunk me later and came back you can guess what he got. Personally, even at my age have no problems with it in a few years I'll be getting gear up to take my granddaughter.

[MartinFlevo]

Always the same price, 2000 baht for 3 or 4 hours.

What the lady does is up to her. Of course, she knows if she does nothing, she probably isn't coming bac.Kuddos for the answer. Could you please add price info in all your next post and how you get the girl? I mean you probaly got a few 100 in line (same here) but if another punter can't find her. Well kinda useless to know someone fucked someone.

[Mr Enternational]

Kuddos for the answer. Could you please add price info in all your next post and how you get the girl? I mean you probaly got a few 100 in line (same here) but if another punter can't find her. Well kinda useless to know someone fucked someone.He has already said 100 times where he gets them and that he pays them all 2000 for a few hours (too much IMHO; I am a 1200 LT kind of guy). Bars and networking. Why would another punter want to find her? Another punter does not even know how she looks. Thousands of chicks in Pattaya. Surely each punter can find one to fit his own style without chasing after a chick simply because another guy said he liked a particular chick.

[Explorer8939]

There is still a problem with Bolt taxis in Pattaya. Either the number of taxis has been drastically reduced, or there are too many customers.

To get a Bolt into Pattaya from Jomtien is a struggle.

[Member #4807]

Left hand side of the triangle bar coming from bukhao. Lots of milfs and gilfs with high mileage LOL. Everything on offer for 700 baht but not my piece of cake. I prefer soi honey as early afternoon massage / boom boom action. Younger 30 something year old ladies with great bodies. Got to full service and a good massage for 1000.

[Banana Boi]

I would like to get out of Pattaya for Songkran, but I suspect that everywhere in Thailand will be jammed with regugees from Bangkok.

So, where to go?Leave Thailand! My first few years I always went to Phnom Penh cause I hadn't discovered Jakarta yet. After I discovered Jakarta a 2 week visit during Songkran was the obvious choice.

If you don't want to leave Thailand, head to Bangkok cause their Songkran is only 3 days. I've seen wanna be's carry around super soakers on Pattaya baht buses 2 weeks after Songkran!

I don't mind having "water" thrown on me. I always use the gogo girl I'm with as a shield. Petite skinny ones are so ineffective! Are we sure it's only water in those super soakers?

[SoberHans69]

Leave Thailand! My first few years I always went to Phnom Penh cause I hadn't discovered Jakarta yet. After I discovered Jakarta a 2 week visit during Songkran was the obvious choice.

If you don't want to leave Thailand, head to Bangkok cause their Songkran is only 3 days. I've seen wanna be's carry around super soakers on Pattaya baht buses 2 weeks after Songkran!

I don't mind having "water" thrown on me. I always use the gogo girl I'm with as a shield. Petite skinny ones are so ineffective! Are we sure it's only water in those super soakers?That's one reason to barfine a BBW I suppose.

[SplitPersona]

Kite festival is on the beach road causing traffic nightmares. Folks from Bangkok and elsewhere make it here on weekends which is making it worse.

There is some running race tomorrow at the beach.

Saw four baht buses of Chinese on Soi 6 browsing.

Four wheelers need to be banned on Soi 6 to prevent accidents and constant bottlenecks.

Beer Prices going up at the Agogo.

[Axel Heyst]

Leave Thailand! My first few years I always went to Phnom Penh cause I hadn't discovered Jakarta yet. After I discovered Jakarta a 2 week visit during Songkran was the obvious choice.

If you don't want to leave Thailand, head to Bangkok cause their Songkran is only 3 days. An interesting factoid about Songkran is that airfares out of BKK to Phnom & CGK always go up a day or 2 before Songkran begins and BKK hotel rates go down over the length of the holiday. This is a sure sign that a lot of people do not want to be in LOS over this holiday if they can help it. Personally, I have left BKK for a Phnom Penh side trip many times on account of Songkran. I have also scheduled my Asian trips to begin after Songkran, so I don't have to bother with it at all. But a couple of times I stayed in BKK just to see what goes on. I stayed at the BKK Weston and Grande Centrepoint T21 for bargain basement rates and I managed to stay dry too, LOL, because both the Weston and the Grande Centrepoint T21 (especially the T21) are kind of connected to Cowboy via the MRT station underpass walkway.

But I saw a lot of drenched people on Sukhumvit even though I think there is a lot more water craziness away from the farang zone and in local Thai neighborhoods. Some Thai's really get into the holiday spirit. My Mini used to send me pics of herself in a taxi surrounded by water revelers as she was attempting to come see me. I suppose the celebration is fun if you are young and have the right attitude AND you are drinking plenty of beer.

[CaliGuy33]

I'm curious what the average ST rate is currently off of ThaiFriendly. When I was in Pattaya last summer I'the say the average was around 1,200 to 1,300 baht.

Curious if rates have gone up.

[RakSopheni]

My first few years I always went to Phnom Penh cause I hadn't discovered Jakarta yet. After I discovered Jakarta a 2 week visit during Songkran was the obvious choice.
I suppose I could RTFF, but what's good in Jakarta other than the Classic Hotel?

[Axel Heyst]

I suppose I could RTFF, but what's good in Jakarta other than the Classic Hotel?Jakarta is one of my favorite towns. I will tell you this and then leave it up to you if you want to RTFF. Jakarta has some great, world class bordellos. Classic is not one of them. Jakarta also has some lively FL pick up bars which I enjoy. But the key attraction that Jakarta has going for itself are the girls. IMHO they are prettier than Filipinas and can be very naughty GFE. Their bodies are more curvy than Thai girls and on average they (Indos) are better in bed. So, up to you if you want to find out more.

[Explorer8939]

Last night, I had a lady come over for drinks, she has come over many times before, and claims I am the only customer she fucks. Right.

After drinking considerable amounts of tequila, she goes into girlfriend mode, turns into a 3 holer (I didn't partake last night), sniff kisses, the only problem is when she climbed on top to fuck, I couldn't feel her pussy when my dick went inside, which was weird. Maybe my dick was numb from her BJ, maybe I was too drunk, but there was no feeling at all.

Anyway, despite all her girlfriend moves, she has a 19 year old Thai boyfriend. Yeah, its amazing that a bargirl can profess her eternal love for a customer, but live with a Thai man.

[Goatscrot]

Jakarta is one of my favorite towns. I will tell you this and then leave it up to you if you want to RTFF. Jakarta has some great, world class bordellos. Classic is not one of them. Jakarta also has some lively FL pick up bars which I enjoy. But the key attraction that Jakarta has going for itself are the girls. IMHO they are prettier than Filipinas and can be very naughty GFE. Their bodies are more curvy than Thai girls and on average they (Indos) are better in bed. So, up to you if you want to find out more.Could not agree more about Indo women. They're excellent. Jakarta is kind of a pain as cities go though. Not as user friendly as BKK.

[Mr Enternational]

I'm curious what the average ST rate is currently off of ThaiFriendly. When I was in Pattaya last summer I'the say the average was around 1,200 to 1,300 baht.

Curious if rates have gone up.Ain't no average. Gave a chick 1000 last night and another chick just asked for 2500. I try to shoot for 1200 LT.

[Cha Chumplin]

An interesting factoid about Songkran is that airfares out of BKK to Phnom & CGK always go up a day or 2 before Songkran begins and BKK hotel rates go down over the length of the holiday. This is a sure sign that a lot of people do not want to be in LOS over this holiday if they can help it. Personally, I have left BKK for a Phnom Penh side trip many times on account of Songkran. I have also scheduled my Asian trips to begin after Songkran, so I don't have to bother with it at all. But a couple of times I stayed in BKK just to see what goes on. I stayed at the BKK Weston and Grande Centrepoint T21 for bargain basement rates and I managed to stay dry too, LOL, because both the Weston and the Grande Centrepoint T21 (especially the T21) are kind of connected to Cowboy via the MRT station underpass walkway.

But I saw a lot of drenched people on Sukhumvit even though I think there is a lot more water craziness away from the farang zone and in local Thai neighborhoods. Some Thai's really get into the holiday spirit. My Mini used to send me pics of herself in a taxi surrounded by water revelers as she was attempting to come see me. I suppose the celebration is fun if you are young and have the right attitude AND you are drinking plenty of beer.Last night 9 pm. Baht bus from central to walking street. So a few bus were full. There's like millions more coming. Not a big deal.

Same with traffic. Not a big deal.

Hot Hello Girls. It is an indicator of what's inside. Hahaha.

[Expat American]

So I finally made it back to Pattaya after several years. I had made a few trips to AC in the meantime. Pattaya in one word. Overwhelming. The sheer number of bars, girls, mongers, traffic is truly exhausting. Those who say they can't find a decent looker in Pattaya are clearly visually impaired. You see literally thousands of women every evening and there are some percent hotties. Even beach road had a few that would turn heads. As for me, I enjoyed the gentlemens clubs the most. Camel Toe girls were fun and wild and found good fun in Maggie Mays as well. As far as gogos, didn't go to too many except Windmill which is a hoot with naked girls everywhere and girl-girl shows all over the club on two floors, and Heaven Above. Ended up Barfining a brand new girl 20 year old, 3 days in Pattaya. I believed it because she spoke zero english and fucked totally naturally (I,e not like a bar girl). 2000 BF and 3000 for her. The GC prices were 1 k per girl and 200 to 300 for the room. The good part there is the foreplay and build up in the bars before the main event. I missed that action since its all but gone in AC.

I didn't fuck too many girls this trip, just four. Got BBFS with 3 of them, CIP in one (the Windmill newbie).

Would I go back soon? I don't know. The traffic is insane and it takes 30 min to go 2 km in the evening. Walking street is sensory overload. Its like a buffet with too much food and I lose my appetite. AC is much smaller and manageable and being able to talk in English to the girls, even the fresh of the farm ones, is a huge appeal.

[Cha Chumplin]

So I finally made it back to Pattaya after several years. I had made a few trips to AC in the meantime. Pattaya in one word. Overwhelming. The sheer number of bars, girls, mongers, traffic is truly exhausting. Those who say they can't find a decent looker in Pattaya are clearly visually impaired. You see literally thousands of women every evening and there are some percent hotties. Even beach road had a few that would turn heads. As for me, I enjoyed the gentlemens clubs the most. Camel Toe girls were fun and wild and found good fun in Maggie Mays as well. As far as gogos, didn't go to too many except Windmill which is a hoot with naked girls everywhere and girl-girl shows all over the club on two floors, and Heaven Above. Ended up Barfining a brand new girl 20 year old, 3 days in Pattaya. I believed it because she spoke zero english and fucked totally naturally (I,e not like a bar girl). 2000 BF and 3000 for her. The GC prices were 1 k per girl and 200 to 300 for the room. The good part there is the foreplay and build up in the bars before the main event. I missed that action since its all but gone in AC.

I didn't fuck too many girls this trip, just four. Got BBFS with 3 of them, CIP in one (the Windmill newbie).

Would I go back soon? I don't know. The traffic is insane and it takes 30 min to go 2 km in the evening. Walking street is sensory overload. Its like a buffet with too much food and I lose my appetite. AC is much smaller and manageable and being able to talk in English to the girls, even the fresh of the farm ones, is a huge appeal.Windmill very popular to the point they have to be printing Baht.

Same old story though. Avgg rating of attractive ness of girls is below average.

The other night I saw what might have been the ugliest Thai girl ever,. She was a Nude. No offense.

[XXL]

I'm curious what the average ST rate is currently off of ThaiFriendly. When I was in Pattaya last summer I'the say the average was around 1,200 to 1,300 baht.

Curious if rates have gone up.On TF some girls ask for 3000 but nearly always settle for 2000. Most ask for 2000. Maybe 25% will ask for 1500.

[Banana Boi]

I suppose I could RTFF, but what's good in Jakarta other than the Classic Hotel?I thought I just posted this but since you don't want to read the forums in the central area there are Kota indah with a pile of bars, Travel, Classic, Malio just to name a few. NE there is Kelapa Gading with a ton of clubs. West there's New Medika and a whole ton of bars no one goes to unless you are in the know. There are places all over like B Fashion and a ton of large massage places with tons of girls. There's CJ and BATS for pickup bars like iBar. There ares places down South like Eastern Promise and not sure what else is open in Blok M. Jakarta is the unknown for most guys. I can guarantee no one will be disappointed there. Cheaper than Thailand. Girls are prettier than Thailand. More girls in their late teens and early 20's than Thailand. Hotels are cheap. No taxi scams like Thailand. Goats is correct the city is a dud except for Kota Kasablanka mall with the Neo Soho area and Grand Indonesia mall. Never bothered me with bars having girls from 3 pm til late at night. The only downfall and this does keep many guys away is that you can't take most of the girls to your hotel for LT, other than CJs and BATS.

[Mr Enternational]

I didn't fuck too many girls this trip, just four. Got BBFS with 3 of them, CIP in one (the Windmill newbie).So you BB with 75% of the chicks that you were with but some say this is very hard to find. Did you negotiate it beforehand or just go with the flow?

[Explorer8939]

Please keep the Jakarta stuff in the Jakarta forum, this forum is about Pattaya.

[Lcale1982]

I'm curious what the average ST rate is currently off of ThaiFriendly. When I was in Pattaya last summer I'the say the average was around 1,200 to 1,300 baht.

Curious if rates have gone up.I was there in December and got a lot at 1500. I'm usually not choosing the hottest looking ones cause those I know most likely heavily photoshopped. I picked avg looking ones and they'd provide better service which I'd prefer over looks.

[CaliGuy33]

I was there in December and got a lot at 1500. I'm usually not choosing the hottest looking ones cause those I know most likely heavily photoshopped. I picked avg looking ones and they'd provide better service which I'd prefer over looks.Thanks for the replies gentlemen.

I agree with you, the average looking ones which were cheaper tended to provide better service, not just sexually but in terms of the company they provided. I had one that never asked for more than 1,000 baht, was always on time, slightly above average looking and a nice thick body, and all three holes were always open for service. I normally don't even repeat but the value with this chick was too good. And that's the nice thing about Pattaya, if you search enough you can find value.

Another one that I repeated with would charge 1,200 baht and do everything I say. A nice tight body, friendly and down to earth. Best of all, would give me the best deep throat I ever had to the point it would kind of hurt in a good way. And would incorporate rimming as well without being asked to.

Overall, sounds like prices are slightly higher but likely come down as low season kicks in.

Man I miss Pattaya. Once you get back to the states and get completely blue balled, the idea that you can walk into a BJ bar and blow a load in a hottie's mouth for twenty something bucks and be on your way seems so far fetched and unbelievable. You gents that live there have it good.

[Yuri B]

I am planning my trip, now when pandemic is over. Is beginning / mid September a good time in Pattaya?

Also last time I was in Pattaya in 2016. I liked Russian establishments but the girls were unreachable (unaffordable for me). Have the prices went down or they still high for Russian girls. (I was quoted $500 USD LT -- that was more than the whole budget for my trip at the time) . Maybe somebody would suggest where could I take European girls rather than in gentlemen's club so it's a little cheaper.

[HardDrive]

I am planning my trip, now when pandemic is over. Is beginning / mid September a good time in Pattaya?

Also last time I was in Pattaya in 2016. I liked Russian establishments but the girls were unreachable (unaffordable for me). Have the prices went down or they still high for Russian girls. (I was quoted $500 USD LT -- that was more than the whole budget for my trip at the time) . Maybe somebody would suggest where could I take European girls rather than in gentlemen's club so it's a little cheaper.Anytime is good Seriously, you will get rain, sometimes a lot of rain as it is right in the height of the monsoon season. That said, there will also be a lot less tourists so the bars and restaurants will not be as crowded as during high season. Also you should be able to bargain some on services as it will be a buyers market. Just buy a cheap umbrella when you get there and leave it when you go home.

I was there last year, mid-October to mid-November and only really had two days of rain. We did get stuck on Soi 6 in a torrential downpour and it was a pain in the ass to get back to the hotel. This was an a bit unusual as October is still usually the tail end of the monsoon season. This year I am coming down for the entire month of October. I expect a bit of rain but maybe I will be pleasantly surprised again.

As far as availability of Russians or other Eastern Europeans, I can't really help as I tend to focus on the petite Thai, Cambodian and Laotian ladies while I am there.

[Explorer8939]

I am planning my trip, now when pandemic is over. Is beginning / mid September a good time in Pattaya?

Also last time I was in Pattaya in 2016. I liked Russian establishments but the girls were unreachable (unaffordable for me). Have the prices went down or they still high for Russian girls. (I was quoted $500 USD LT -- that was more than the whole budget for my trip at the time) . Maybe somebody would suggest where could I take European girls rather than in gentlemen's club so it's a little cheaper.Don't go to Thailand to find Russian girls, go somewhere else.

[Explorer8939]

I sometimes will travel out of Pattaya with a lady for 2 or 3 days. Normally, the trips are okay, but on the first day of my current trip, the lady announced she just started her period.

Yes, before I book the trip, I ask the lady about timing of her period, this one told me "no problem."

Disaster.

[Expat American]

So you BB with 75% of the chicks that you were with but some say this is very hard to find. Did you negotiate it beforehand or just go with the flow?I negotiated with 2 up front in Camel Toe and Maggie Mays. The Windmill girl was very new so I knew she wouldn't ask for a condom and I was right. One girl from Heaven Above insisted on using it. My buddy who joined me also took a Windmill girl. She asked for condom but he told her she could leave if that was the condition. She stayed and he even had her over another night. I don't think he used a condom with any of the girls. I think its fairly easy to get BBFS but if you choose some pro bar girl from a go go maybe chances are less. Gentlemen clubs, beer bars and newer girls your chances are much better.

[Cha Chumplin]

Hide the Winning and Children.

6,000 American Semen are expected to arrive shortly. Talk about 2 week millionaire s. I'm assuming they got nothing to spend on while cruising the Persian Gulf.

To these guys every girl is Hot. Hahaha.

[Explorer8939]

I negotiated with 2 up front in Camel Toe and Maggie Mays. The Windmill girl was very new so I knew she wouldn't ask for a condom and I was right. One girl from Heaven Above insisted on using it. My buddy who joined me also took a Windmill girl. She asked for condom but he told her she could leave if that was the condition. She stayed and he even had her over another night. I don't think he used a condom with any of the girls. I think its fairly easy to get BBFS but if you choose some pro bar girl from a go go maybe chances are less. Gentlemen clubs, beer bars and newer girls your chances are much better.I keep a supply of condoms by my bed, for use if the lady is high volume, or if she does not use any birth control.

Thai condoms are usually too small, so I stock up when I travel abroad.

But no, I never have covered BJs.

[AggieDad1]

I sometimes will travel out of Pattaya with a lady for 2 or 3 days. Normally, the trips are okay, but on the first day of my current trip, the lady announced she just started her period.

Yes, before I book the trip, I ask the lady about timing of her period, this one told me "no problem."

Disaster.I have been lucky with Thai girls so far. But when I was working in China I had lots of bad luck with women and their periods arriving at bad times. Just the luck of the draw I guess. Most women are not like clockwork unless they are on the pill.

[Knobrm]

I sometimes will travel out of Pattaya with a lady for 2 or 3 days. Normally, the trips are okay, but on the first day of my current trip, the lady announced she just started her period.

Yes, before I book the trip, I ask the lady about timing of her period, this one told me "no problem."

Disaster.Just tell her to get the yellow foam piece from 7-11 and stick that in as stop-gap. Many will do without even telling you they are on period, some are open about it, some try to hide.

If she told no problem, would have thought she was prepared for that foam thingy anyway.

If shallow pussy and / or big dick, can clearly feel bottoming, so need to be careful!

[Explorer8939]

Just tell her to get the yellow foam piece from 7-11 and stick that in as stop-gap. Many will do without even telling you they are on period, some are open about it, some try to hide.

If she told no problem, would have thought she was prepared for that foam thingy anyway.

If shallow pussy and / or big dick, can clearly feel bottoming, so need to be careful!The lady went to the pharmacy to buy something to stop her period. No idea if it will work.

[Tomasb]

Just amazed how much the bar fines are now. You paid 2 k BF and 3 k for the girl. Hardly a bargain but what understand, it's more or less the going rate.

I stayed in a couple different hotels near Soi Buakow and agree that the noise, traffic and general chaos can be overwhelming. Could not imagine living in that environment day in and day out. It would be soul-crushing at least for me.

[GDreams]

I am planning my trip, now when pandemic is over. Is beginning / mid September a good time in Pattaya?

Also last time I was in Pattaya in 2016. I liked Russian establishments but the girls were unreachable (unaffordable for me). Have the prices went down or they still high for Russian girls. (I was quoted $500 USD LT -- that was more than the whole budget for my trip at the time) . Maybe somebody would suggest where could I take European girls rather than in gentlemen's club so it's a little cheaper.I have paid for a couple of Russian girls to meet me in Thailand. They want to go there for a holiday.

[Sammon]

Just tell her to get the yellow foam piece from 7-11 and stick that in as stop-gap. Many will do without even telling you they are on period, some are open about it, some try to hide.

If she told no problem, would have thought she was prepared for that foam thingy anyway.

If shallow pussy and / or big dick, can clearly feel bottoming, so need to be careful!Many do not have regular time periods. I have experienced after one good guck they start the period. It is very inconvenient for me if planned stay is few days. Do not want to kick her out when she is suffering. At the same time only few girls agree for sex during their period. It is painful and they feel it is dirty.

[SplitPersona]

Problem with Songrjkran is a lot of Girls go home to their Village.

So much so you can tell the difference. Add to that numbers are already down.

Just keep your enthusiasm in Check.Did red planet honor the $126 weekly rate published on their website?

[SplitPersona]

Catwalk Agogo opened near Airport Agogo Soi 15.

Flex Agogo opened opposite Coco Agogo in windmill alley.

Kite festival going on on windy beach road with various colorful shaped balloons in the air. Causing traffic bottlenecks and the working girls not liking loosing attention.

Special vip band at Rolling Stones house. I believe you have to buy red label bottle for entry.

Does anyone know how the cigarette magician stick burning cigarettes in stranger's shirt and pulls cigarettes out of his trousers?

[SplitPersona]

Just tell her to get the yellow foam piece from 7-11 and stick that in as stop-gap. Many will do without even telling you they are on period, some are open about it, some try to hide.

If she told no problem, would have thought she was prepared for that foam thingy anyway.

If shallow pussy and / or big dick, can clearly feel bottoming, so need to be careful!The yellow foam thing or birth control iud? Are very uncomfortable and painful for us when having sex. And the girls don't even realize it.

Your options are HJ BJ or sex in pool / jacuzzi / ocean / shower.

[SplitPersona]

Just amazed how much the bar fines are now. You paid 2 k BF and 3 k for the girl. Hardly a bargain but what understand, it's more or less the going rate.

I stayed in a couple different hotels near Soi Buakow and agree that the noise, traffic and general chaos can be overwhelming. Could not imagine living in that environment day in and day out. It would be soul-crushing at least for me.If and when I paid that money I would get the deed done to my hearts content before any dining clubbing drinking. I have my place stocked with all the drinks and snacks.

[Revrez]

I've made a few trips to Pattaya recently from Bangkok. The bus fare is super cheap. I usually book a hotel walking distance from Soi 6. I've haven't experimented much as I just been lookie-loo walking up and down Beach Rd and Soi 6. The foot traffic is super compact right now compared to last year which shouldn't be a surprise. I was pleased with what I saw in Soi 6. You can find young petite girls there. Walking street is so so. Maybe you find one looker if you stroll at the right time. I was able to hook up with a few girls that closely matched my criteria but those contacts were made using dating apps. I feel it takes awhile to uncover Pattaya because it's so seedy. I think you can get lucky at any given night and find a gem. Last time I was in the area I tried Ban Chang which is about an hour drive south from Pattaya. They have a small strip of bars but nothing stood out to me there. But the women there are eager to please. Jomtien just outside of Pattaya is also worth seeing at least once. I like to kick back there but I've yet to explore the bar scene action.

[SplitPersona]

Their banner is all over the place. Oldest rock and roll bar? Agogo?

They have a four hour happy hour.

All I see is a few bored people sitting outside with a beer with 4/5's.

[HorseTrader]

Many do not have regular time periods.The Thai girls who I've known well enough for me to track their periods have all been regular within a day. Think 5 regular periods out of 5 Thai girls. What I can say is that these same Thai girls do not track their periods as rigorously as the western girls that I've known.

[Expat American]

Just amazed how much the bar fines are now. You paid 2 k BF and 3 k for the girl. Hardly a bargain but what understand, it's more or less the going rate.

I stayed in a couple different hotels near Soi Buakow and agree that the noise, traffic and general chaos can be overwhelming. Could not imagine living in that environment day in and day out. It would be soul-crushing at least for me.Actually 2 K BF and 3 K to the girl is a good deal from a GoGo bar. It was for long time. My buddy took a girl from 7 pm to 7 am and took one from 10 pm to 7 am. These were young 20 year old fresh ones too. You can get much cheaper. I fucked a couple in Gentlemens Clubs for 1 K plus 300 for room as well. Depends what you want. I tried a variety of things.

[Explorer8939]

Whatever medicine the lady having her period took, it worked. At bed time, she asked to be fucked, but I declined, since I wasn't sure it was 100% effective. She asked me to promise to fuck her the next night.

Note: she was pretty drunk, normally, she is a dead fish lay.

If you are a newbie to Pattaya, I should tell you that most ladies don't ask for sex, they grab your dick. So, the current lady would be considered shy.

[Knobrm]

The yellow foam thing or birth control iud? Are very uncomfortable and painful for us when having sex. And the girls don't even realize it.

Your options are HJ BJ or sex in pool / jacuzzi / ocean / shower.It's just small yellow foam piece you can stick into bottom of pussy, not any birth control device. I guess made for this purpose, or possibly to be used as temp tampon, not sure. Not uncommon for girls to have one in their handbag, but yes many simply don't feel comfortable to have sex if period comes also. To each of their own.

Yes I don't like it either due to bottoming to it. But what can you do if she sticks it in prior to the fuck without telling you! Just ride like your car with half the cylinders off

If on LLT deal works as temp tool and can fuck every day without the mess. But can not bang with full swing without breaking your dick 555.

[Explorer8939]

I don't track anyone's period, I just ask them if they have their period before I go with them.

[Mr Enternational]

At the same time only few girls agree for sex during their period. It is painful and they feel it is dirty.Painful and dirty? We are definitely hanging with different crowds. The chicks I know will try to get over with the yellow sponge as if nothing is wrong, until my dick starts poking it and I am like what the fuck is that? Take that shit out.

Don't know what this shit is doing in my drawer. I must have bought it to show on here before.

[Mr Enternational]

Does anyone know how the cigarette magician stick burning cigarettes in stranger's shirt and pulls cigarettes out of his trousers?With a fake thumb.

https://m.youtube.com/channel/UCkozSCYe1posLlfjUhaJOkw

[Explorer8939]

Bars close all day March 6.

[Cha Chumplin]

Did red planet honor the $126 weekly rate published on their website?If it's on Expedia no worries.

On my one week stay I paid $6 a night more for bteere located Hotels.

May never stay at Red Planet Again. It kind of is in the middle of nowhere.

[Mr Enternational]

Yesterday on TF met a chick that is not a dancer, waitress, mamasan, or janitor at a famous place that sounds like Pinwheel. She said that she could come over when she got off work at 3 am. Yeah whatever lady. I am going to sleep. It was like 8:30 then. At 4 am I got up to go to the toilet and had a message from her saying she had just finished work. She asked if I wanted her to come over. Keep sleeping or get some pussy? Sure come on over. She said how much you give me and being the creature of habit that I am I said 1000. She said ok on the way.

She got here and got right in bed. I said go wash that shit off your face. She went into the bathroom and washed her face and came back to get in the bed. I said you did not take a shower. She said I am not dirty. I only stayed inside and counted out 180,000 baht for tonight. I said you were still outside.

So she jumped up to take a shower and came and got in the bed once again. This time her mouth went straight for my dick. As they usually do, she hopped right on without saying anything about a condom. Almost 7 am and she is sleeping. Guess I will do the same for another couple of hours before I wake her up for round 2.

[XXL]

Painful and dirty? We are definitely hanging with different crowds. The chicks I know will try to get over with the yellow sponge as if nothing is wrong, until my dick starts poking it and I am like what the fuck is that? Take that shit out.
So they sell those contraptions in TH especially for girls who want to go on working when on their rags? I remember once my cock hurt inside a girl. I wondered what the cause might have been. My first thought was not enough lube, but I then noticed only one side of my knob was chafed. I try to keep tabs on girls' periods but when I ask they invariably say their period ended days ago. Thank you for the pic, I'm going to send a modified version of it to girls whom I suspect may want to play that game with me:

[Explorer8939]

Bolt taxi is barely functional in Pattaya now. Sometimes you have to wait 30 minutes to get a ride.

There simply aren't enough drivers to handle the current load. Too many customers.

[Explorer8939]

I have a lady staying with me in Pattaya for 4 nights. Last night, we went to Maggie Mays, and barfined a young Cambodian lady, luckily, she lived in Samut Prakan and could speak Thai.

She is physically larger than most Thai ladies, but has a decent sized rack. After drinking tequila for an hour, she got randy, and took off her top. The other lady ignored her.

I suspect her lack of English is a barrier to her getting many customers. And, after a week of little action, having a dick to play with can be a plus for a lady. So she played with my dick, until I returned the favor and worked her pussy until she was tired. At which point, I sent her back to the bar, saving myself for lady #1.

[ElMexicant]

Bolt taxi is barely functional in Pattaya now. Sometimes you have to wait 30 minutes to get a ride.

There simply aren't enough drivers to handle the current load. Too many customers.Um. Yeah okay. My app says 4 minutes for a car. Who the fuck takes taxis in Pattaya? You getting enough sleep?

[Cha Chumplin]

Reports Prostitute BF robbed customer.

I'd lay odds Explorer involved. Haha. No offense.

[Expat American]

Bolt taxi is barely functional in Pattaya now. Sometimes you have to wait 30 minutes to get a ride.

There simply aren't enough drivers to handle the current load. Too many customers.Not just that. In the evening it takes 45 min to go 2 km so unless the Bolt happens to be around the corner, it takes far too long to get there. Street taxis are available but forget about the meter. Minimum 200 B to go anywhere within city limits.

[Mr Enternational]

Folks returning to Pattaya after 3 years. Some questions.

1) Is Rasputin still open?Out getting some exercise this morning.

[Mr Enternational]

Street taxis are available but forget about the meter. Minimum 200 B to go anywhere within city limits.Meanwhile, meter from Bangkok airport 1099.

[Mr Enternational]

Street taxis are available but forget about the meter. Minimum 200 B to go anywhere within city limits.Opps. Forgot the pic.

[Banana Boi]

Street taxis are available but forget about the meter. Minimum 200 B to go anywhere within city limits.To this day I have yet to ever get a Pattaya taxi to turn on a meter.

[HorseTrader]

Bolt taxi is barely functional in Pattaya now. Sometimes you have to wait 30 minutes to get a ride.

There simply aren't enough drivers to handle the current load. Too many customers.Hmmmm. About a week ago I used Bolt in North Pattaya and it was quick, easy, and cheap. This was about 4 km north of Soi 6. My first ride was at about 18:00 and my second ride was at about 22:00. No problem either time. Thailand is totally different when you get away from the red light areas, which apparently applies to transportation.

The prior night was before I had the Bolt App. I used taxi to get to and from the red light district. I had no complaints with taxi, but it was a little more expensive, I think I paid 150 baht for each 4 km taxi ride.

[XXL]

I haven't tried out this app in Pattaya but I know it works. Fares are not fixed by the app. Instead the app gives you a ballpark figure which you may accept or modiy (a kind of auction). Waiting times are bound to be the same as in Bolt though. Still, worth a try.


Not just that. In the evening it takes 45 min to go 2 km so unless the Bolt happens to be around the corner, it takes far too long to get there. Street taxis are available but forget about the meter. Minimum 200 B to go anywhere within city limits.

I rode with Bolt today morning from Jomtien Beach to Big C Pattaya Klang, then back one hour later. One-way fares were between 70 and 80 Baht. I guess the high rates and high waiting times have more to to with the traffic jams on Beach Rd, 2nd Rd and Soi Bukhao than with anything else. If drivers can circumvent those, fares go back to normal. Also, I wouldn't put it past Taxis to intimidate Bolt drivers in central Pattaya. A Bolt driver may not consider picking you up, say on 2nd Road outside Soi 6, because Bolt drivers know Taxis are parked in ambush there. If you can't secure a ride on Bolt or if your rides gets cancelled at short notice, look around for green and yellow thugs, they may be the reason for what is happening.

[Mr Enternational]

My buddy said there are a lot of Russians on Beach Road. He got one yesterday for 1000 baht. He thought it would be trouble, but turned out to be a good experience.

[ThaiGoodTimes]

My buddy said there are a lot of Russians on Beach Road. He got one yesterday for 1000 baht. He thought it would be trouble, but turned out to be a good experience.Anyone else seeing Russians streetwalking or freelancing in Pattaya?

I have been looking for such in Phuket, so far without any real visible signs of it.

[Explorer8939]

My buddy said there are a lot of Russians on Beach Road. He got one yesterday for 1000 baht. He thought it would be trouble, but turned out to be a good experience.In the past, "Russian" ladies working Beach road are usually from central Asia. To me, most looked more Turkish than Russian, and they spoke Russian with a strange accent.

Strangely, I did a central Asian lady in Moscow (from Uzbekistan), and she looked Thai, not Turkish, and certainly not Russian.

[Explorer8939]

So, you think your Pattaya bargirls really loves you?

One bargirl posts photos of me on her Facebook every day. You would think that maybe she likes me.

But no, she has a Farang boyfriend who pays her 20,000 baht and gives her gold. So, maybe she likes him.

But no, she has a Thai husband who she supports. So, maybe she really loves him.

I'm not sure. Maybe she loves one of her customers at the bar this week.

The point is not to get emotionally involved with a bar girl. They are great at acting like they are in love. And removing your money.

[DevSagar]

Yes, during my last trip and while coming back to my room at around 2.30 am saw few CIS chicks who were not picked up in Tony bar as I was there for a pretty long time on my last night. They recognized me and I too recalled seeing them. Not pretty, fat and old. They started calling me Janu Janu, take us; short time long time. I said no as had an early morning flight back to my country. Not pretty chicks but yes I did see them too.

Regards.


Anyone else seeing Russians streetwalking or freelancing in Pattaya?

I have been looking for such in Phuket, so far without any real visible signs of it.

[LittleBigMan]

I haven't tried out this app in Pattaya but I know it works. Fares are not fixed by the app. Instead the app gives you a ballpark figure which you may accept or modiy (a kind of auction). Waiting times are bound to be the same as in Bolt though. Still, worth a try.



I rode with Bolt today morning from Jomtien Beach to Big C Pattaya Klang, then back one hour later. One-way fares were between 70 and 80 Baht. I guess the high rates and high waiting times have more to to with the traffic jams on Beach Rd, 2nd Rd and Soi Bukhao than with anything else. If drivers can circumvent those, fares go back to normal. Also, I wouldn't put it past Taxis to intimidate Bolt drivers in central Pattaya. A Bolt driver may not consider picking you up, say on 2nd Road outside Soi 6, because Bolt drivers know Taxis are parked in ambush there. If you can't secure a ride on Bolt or if your rides gets cancelled at short notice, look around for green and yellow thugs, they may be the reason for what is happening.About a month ago the taxi association LOL, guess put so much pressure on the boys in brown Soi 9, there was a crackdown on the Bolt operation there was a major crackdown around Central Plaza that netted a lot of Bolt drivers not having licenses to operate or the vehicle under that license was not the correct vehicle or the insurance was not for commercial purposes but for personal use only thus if the vehicle is in an accident and found to be operating no coverage. To operate under that license. A regular Bolt driver who hangs around my son comes over to the house once a week to play the music they have this one-man band system they seem to get off on for hours. He works on call on the Darkside or to the airport but doesn't venture into town if stopped it is a 2000 baht fine even confiscation of a vehicle same with motorbikes. It seems now along with more people there are fewer drivers servicing into town.

[SplitPersona]

Will be a circus. Sound checks from bands were already on at 5 pm.

All food stalls open. 5 b sushi. 159 b 3 slice person pan pizza. With pineapple California style.

Saw a few Agogo girls including Fahrenheit at 5 pm. A pin up girl there with a cute puppy in a fancy bag cage quoted 3000 b to my room.

Beach road and second road will be a parking lot with the local crowd and usual weekend Bangkok crowd added in. Don't bother getting a taxi or baht bus. You can walk or swim a lot faster.

[Knobrm]

My buddy said there are a lot of Russians on Beach Road. He got one yesterday for 1000 baht. He thought it would be trouble, but turned out to be a good experience.Unless this is just a special case of a russian girl having a fling with someone she likes, times indeed are a changing if russians available at same rate as locals. So many russians here now due to the war that not all wealthy, and those who not have to make ends meet somehow. Personally not into russsians at all so won't try even if cheap.

[SplitPersona]

Unless this is just a special case of a russian girl having a fling with someone she likes, times indeed are a changing if russians available at same rate as locals. So many russians here now due to the war that not all wealthy, and those who not have to make ends meet somehow. Personally not into russsians at all so won't try even if cheap.In Pattaya I have gotten decent looking Russian girls for below 1000 b. I have seen their passport at check in.

And they do okay job.

But something about their demeanor leaves a slightly bad aftertaste.

[Expat American]

Anyone else seeing Russians streetwalking or freelancing in Pattaya?

I have been looking for such in Phuket, so far without any real visible signs of it.I saw a few. Didn't talk to them though.

[Explorer8939]

Unless this is just a special case of a russian girl having a fling with someone she likes, times indeed are a changing if russians available at same rate as locals. So many russians here now due to the war that not all wealthy, and those who not have to make ends meet somehow. Personally not into russsians at all so won't try even if cheap.Virtually all of the Russian women in Pattaya come with their Russian husbands or boyfriends. If they are working, it is to support their Significant Other, who may be a draft dodger.

And, no, they generally don't have flings with men from other countries.

As the war drags on, you will see more Russian women working. If there is a new mobilization, Pattaya would be truly flooded with Russians.

[XXL]

In the past, "Russian" ladies working Beach road are usually from central Asia. To me, most looked more Turkish than Russian, and they spoke Russian with a strange accent.

Strangely, I did a central Asian lady in Moscow (from Uzbekistan), and she looked Thai, not Turkish, and certainly not Russian.I did quite a few Russian girls in my time in Europe. I can confirm mosts "Russians" I've seen prostituting in Thailand are not the russian type. If you want to know what I mean by russian type, watch russian couples in town. It would be great if we had access to those genuine russian girls.

[Samsta]

Hi All,

Serial lurker here who has had a lot of help from the forums around the world mainly Angeles, Thailand, and maybe Santiago a few years back.

Finally had the headspace to diarise my escapades after a couple of years break from mongering in asia due to work.

Anyway thanks for all the help via your contributions and hoping that this report can help others out about the latest rates and provide some entertainment.

For background I'm late 30's, dancing with burnout over last 2 years at work, trying to focus on quality not quantity but found it difficult due to percieved and real time pressures = 12 nights only on this trip and no idea if I can get a major break back until end of the year again due to work. For context, I had been quite healthy in the past running and boxing but work killed that recently so in this trip I was running 5 days and lifting back in the gym quite a bit 5 days a week which in hindsight was pretty stupid considering trying to get my rocks off twice a day. I also used kamagra for a good portion of the time probably 8 days out of the 12, just found it was no fuss rock hard action and as I was working out so heavily at times I didn't use it I wast enjoying the condom based sex so much as I've come of a condom free LTR 2 months ago back at home.

Oh I also partake in GG and LBs. I choose Patts specifically for the beach and LBs vs Angeles even though I know A is much cheaper I find the LBs arent as hot / progressed in thier hormones & boobs etc.

Enough about me, here's to the report from mid Feb.

Monday night.

Land around 9 PM after connecting flights totalling 13 hours or so from AUS into bkk.

Head over to Woodbar chased 'G' as thier website reports on whos tops is pretty accurate I've found.

G wasnt in probably bar fined, I know a back up no. 35 from the site and choose her although she's chunky because the cutie I was eyeing wasnt interested.

800 be plus 60 be water 100 be beer no35 performs as desired taking the deepthroat down to the root and getting a big finish to start the trip with a bang.

Next morning I wake at 6 am and look up TF for an incall LB. She comes over, tight body, face differenet to pics but oh well. She stuck her tongue so far up my arse I though she lost something in there. Poor head, only tip. Total dmg 1 k one full hour. Too tired and had to fend her off trying to mount me repeatedly haha (I'm not there and don't plan to be anything other than top).

Taxi to pattaya Tuesday evening, checked into a good hotel north end of beach road and got a free upgrade to beach facing balcony room. Hooray (I do have mid tier status with holiday inn though).

What better way then to start with soi6 - work my way up and down soi6 and end up in a session with someone in kawai bar. Died hair, took a beating for 1300+400 room. I was startled by the 1300 cost for the girl and not 1000 however 2 out of 2 quoted this so I assumed it just went up. Later I found that many are still charging 1000 for ST <.

Wednesday. Woke up on east coast aus time so headed to beach road 430 am. Scouted around and picked up a spinner Min who asked for 2 k have her 1500 from 5-9 am, lovely girl and she took two massive rounds because I couldn't shoot off.

Wednesday evening on the way to soi 6 - massage girl Anne massive jugs avg massage for 30 min and asked me for 1 k for handy, I gave 700+ 300 shop for tits out HJ. She did a good job and didn't complain too much that I take long. She'd probably come back to my room if I ask. End up at soi 6 drained so bought a hottie Jenny a drink from Sex in the City bar, forgot the names of a couple of others. At this point I might add that I had a strategy of keeping my east coast aus wake up and sleep timing to pick off some beach road specials early morning. Only majr flaw was that ID have to sleep by 7 pm to get a good 7 or 8 hours sleep. It was a fun experiment and I used many early morning wake ups to run in the cooler weather to Jomtien.

Thursday morning 430 - pick up on coconut, lbs and less girls out in coconut bar due to rain Thursday afternoon. Ended up with a rock hard body LB and asked her for 500 be for BJ only she said yup. Ended up banging her and giving 1 k after a good 45 min of fun.

Thursday arvo. Forgot to note the session, can't remember where it came from.

Friday 4 am vsexy LB pick up walking st however bought her ad 2 friends some pad thai turns into 4 meals etc so I said please respect my $ if your buying takeaway packs for a friend I didn't know etc. Hot LB proceeds to try and lecture me about the fact that she can pay, I listen for 2 min and say cya later, I'm not paying for a lecture by a pro cum guzzler.

Chose another LB, can't remeber the details.

Friday lunchtime. Great 1500 be+400 for massage with a tiny spinner that walks in and acts like my long lost GF immediately. Massage was good too. Tight 44 kg bod, this is what I'm here for, ended up repeting a few days later and skipped the massage. Here I will add I have been tipping nearly all only 100 be for good service.

Friday evening joined all star cruise. Aka LB loveboat for 1200 be via an agent not 1800 be as advertised direct.

Met a cool dude, took great pics groping and bending over the hot LB dancers in front of dumbass foreign families which was fucking hilarious as they thought we were nice guys initially (passing them cokes etc LOL). Didn't feel easy to grab thier numbers which was the previous thought process but oh well.

Finished with bar hop and Lb 1000 on coconut. Hot * that bounced hard on me and took a mean doggy to trance music. Good fun. Probably thefirst night I had 8 drinks not 2.

Sat.

Got 6 hrs sleep, woke up 6 am and jumped on TF. Pulled a little 35 kg spinner, shit attitude when she arrived and she paid for it. Took a beating beautiful body as she does workout. Made her limp to the bathroom which serves her right and made me giggle. 1500 be +100 tip.

Sunday.

Day. Grabbed a cheeky 600 be lb BJ in room (cheeky because its the lowest I offered in this trip so far for in my room service), good performer but I just found it hard to cum. She kept at it though and jerked me into her mouth. Came back after a year in Dubai so I guess she liked brown boys like me.

Check out from holiday inn to arbour.

Sunday evening.

Grab a gorgeous spinner from TF. 1500st. She's from Cambodia and classy tiny look to boot, probably my fav girl of the trip.

Turns up and. Wouldn't stop blowing me, had a lot of laughs together before we got into it, she took a fucking belting for a good 25 min, playful till the end even though her tiny pussy was sore. Bloody will repeat. Well I tried but someone probably took her away for a few days trip and she only messaged that she's free after I'm on the drive back to airport.

Slept late at 830 ish because longer than expected good time with her 42 kg 26 yr old arse.

Monday.

Woke up dialled a tranny. Smoking body face half as good as pics. If I was an arsehole I woulda sent back. She put in the work during BJ though and went pretty deep but not for long enough. She wanted to top me. No thanks this decade.

She ended up jizzing on my chest. She ran a Double handjob which was hot actually. Stuck it back in her arse but she was in a bit of pain so 40 min of sex later I sent her back and hit the gym.

Monday lunch.

1230 - looked into TF while eating near hotel. Chick coming over for a 1000 be cum in mouth BJ session. Seems cute video called me to ensure I don't cancel. She turned out to be fun and cute, not a amazing looker but good fun performance.

Tuesday morning.

Super early LB incall from TF. 1000 be.

Finally someone who wasn't rushed and sucked a mean sausage. Didn't even bend her over because she was doing it so well, shot deep down her throat. YESSSSS Repeated twice with her more than anyone else haha.

Did a Decently big squat session.

Tuesday arvo.

Pretty tired, went in for a nice tbone. Tough and thin as a mofo at dragon wankers or some other name near LK metro -375 be I'll never see again. Couldn't finish it and ended up having a beef soup for 60 be that was way better at end of night.

Before that went to 007 BJ bar, a little cutie came outside just after finishing with a Korean customer, the big girls came for me as it was thier turn, I hung around with my drink for the cute one named "In" she Apparantly doesn't st but looks great. Didn't know how to handle a tired dick though LOL probably only used to seeing hard ones cause cute with big tits and tiny frame. Anyway she tried but didn't even start sucking for ages and jerking me until I got hard which didn't happen, eventually she started sucking. I quit at the 15 min mark didn't get off so a pretty avg night. Almost went next door but bad steak bad BJ was enough losses for one day. Should have taken kamagra!

Wednesday.

8. 5 km run to jomtein.

11 am called a 42 kg cutie from TF. Absolute GFE where she just lay around enjoying my comfy bed until I was ready.

Didn't mistake it this time and dunked some juju juice (kmag) especially since I had already lined up a barbie 44 kg with big bolt ONS at 2 pm. , smashed the hell out of her. She Left with a smile and 1500 be.

2:15 pm barbie turns up, even messaged me that she's running 15 min late which is almost a first. Anyway looks are about 70% of photoshop but she's tiny and bolt ONS are legit, also great attitude. I was on a mission as agreed amount was 2000 which is the highest I paid all trip. Needless to say I got my baht worth, doggy and gorilla (rise up to knuckles during doggy and kinda hammer diagonally down whwhich just an all out poounding) and she was pretty happy. Cuddles and see ya it's been a good action recovery day to make up for yesterday. Also had a brilliant tuna tartar upstairs. Restauraunt is awesome.

Thursday. Sat. Bit of a blur and I didn't record notes unfortunately. Repeated with LB deepthroater again then she was the last shot I got off before taxi back to bkk then back home. She fucking earned it for 30 min of BJ to get me off with no complaints just determination. Repeated with the tiny massage girl too. Didn't end up on long dates with anyone as I get sick of the girls but I would have like to do so with the hot cambodian.

Quick note on food, I stuck to local thai food and had some clean looking street food especially the griller mackeral. OMG wish I had that for 60 be at home (omega 3 baby). I went to one indian highly rated spot near holiday inn, it was 280 for a main and it was slightly burnt with clueless staff. The steak I tried was shithouse, and the khazacstanian spot I tried paid hgh price and long wait and average food. I had the most fun and best value eating seafood thai style. Bake and Brew is also a standout farang handout. I missed the fresh off the boat seafood at Jomtein after my runs but I went to wombat and kiwi bar twice which was good. I also did a asthana yoga session with a butch but hot russian instructor and had 2 ballerinas doing bends next to me. Fuck that was hot and helped me get my last load off into a LB mouth haha.

Will miss TL but next trip will be Angeles for 2-4 weeks as same action will be 40% cheaper.

I spend around 2 k on transpot including airfares. Hot tip you#get BOLT. It smashes grab in patts for price and availability.

700 on hotels as I got 1 week on points and booked arbour which is instagram model friendly for 99/ and.

Used elite fitness gym. Lovely spot good gear and awesome swiss protein bars. I wish I had some now.

Probably avg 1800 - 2 k per round so about 1800 aud but feels like 2500.

Hope you enjoyed guys, I'm in Columbia now and Santiago from Thursday 9th-17th, hope to get some help and hit me up if you like a cold one and to share monger stories in person.

[Turgid]

So, you think your Pattaya bargirls really loves you?

One bargirl posts photos of me on her Facebook every day. You would think that maybe she likes me.

But no, she has a Farang boyfriend who pays her 20,000 baht and gives her gold. So, maybe she likes him.

But no, she has a Thai husband who she supports. So, maybe she really loves him.

I'm not sure. Maybe she loves one of her customers at the bar this week.

The point is not to get emotionally involved with a bar girl. They are great at acting like they are in love. And removing your money.Back in the day when I used to travel to Asia regularly I always saw a difference between the Thai girls and the Filipinas. When I would leave their country the Filipinas would have tears in their eyes upon goodbyes at the airport while the Thai's eyes would be dry. Did the Filipinas love me more than the Thais?

[Mr Enternational]

Soi Pothole got a fill in yesterday. I guess things are good for now until it rains. Also music festival in town. Hella traffic. Chick from Bangkok came down the other day to stay with me a few days. We went to the Sanctuary of Truth today. I had never been. Also met a guy that owns a bar today. He added me to a group and the first thing he sent was a flyer about a birthday party next week. Who was on the picture? One of my nieces' mom. I hit my brother and said looks like someone has a birthday coming up. He was like how do you even know that. Yeah. The streets talk. Just left Thepprasit Market. They are now open every evening starting 7 Feb.

[Explorer8939]

Back in the day when I used to travel to Asia regularly I always saw a difference between the Thai girls and the Filipinas. When I would leave their country the Filipinas would have tears in their eyes upon goodbyes at the airport while the Thai's eyes would be dry. Did the Filipinas love me more than the Thais?A Thai lady will cry at the airport when saying goodbye to her Farang boyfriend.

She will be sad until her next customer arrives at the airport.

[Explorer8939]

I had a lady come to the condo for drinks, and she told the classic story of being conned into working abroad. Her passport was taken, and she was forced to work for free. She ultimately escaped without her passport, but the local Thai consulate helped her.

She believes she was in Panama, but doesn't really know.

Strangely, after telling me that story, she was hot to trot.

[Tomasb]

Interesting that she did not even know what country she was in. Remarkable really to be that clueless. If so, you can see how she got trapped in this scam to begin with. Panama has a very liberal visa entry policy for Thais. Think it's at least 90 days and this visa policy is similar to Peru and other SA country for Thais due to a reciprocity program both countries maintain.

However, having spent time in Panama, Colombia, Peru etc I can safely say that I have never met any Thai citizens there. There are no direct flights from Asia either. One has to transit thru US or Australia to Chile to get to SA.


I had a lady come to the condo for drinks, and she told the classic story of being conned into working abroad. Her passport was taken, and she was forced to work for free. She ultimately escaped without her passport, but the local Thai consulate helped her.

She believes she was in Panama, but doesn't really know.

Strangely, after telling me that story, she was hot to trot.

[Knobrm]

Interesting that she did not even know what country she was in. Remarkable really to be that clueless.Having the general knowledge about geography they have outside of close vicinity of their living / working area in their home country, not really surprising. For them Panama and Manama are both the same, and Namibia also indistinguishable.

Then, the other thing being that they talk so much BS and conflict themselves all the time, thus if not know based on other data points, hard to say whether she ever even went anywhere or rather telling 2nd hand stories

[Mr Enternational]

However, having spent time in Panama, Colombia, Peru etc I can safely say that I have never met any Thai citizens there. I have met Thai people in Peru and Panama. In Lima a Thai lady has a Thai restaurant in Lince on Bernardo Alcedo. I always stop in and ask her if she has my khana mu gob yet.

[Mr Enternational]

Why is it that Thai chicks do not like to explain anything? After all this time, I am just noticing this lately. Whenever I ask a chick something and she answers I may ask why. She would rather change her answer than to explain why. Then when I ask why for that answer she is stumped.

Me: What is your favorite color?

Her: Red.

Me: Why?

Her: Blue.

Me: Why?

Her: Ow!

[Explorer8939]

Interesting that she did not even know what country she was in. Remarkable really to be that clueless. If so, you can see how she got trapped in this scam to begin with. Panama has a very liberal visa entry policy for Thais. Think it's at least 90 days and this visa policy is similar to Peru and other SA country for Thais due to a reciprocity program both countries maintain.

However, having spent time in Panama, Colombia, Peru etc I can safely say that I have never met any Thai citizens there. There are no direct flights from Asia either. One has to transit thru US or Australia to Chile to get to SA.I flew to Panama from Thailand via Istanbul, last year.

The lady told me she went to a country that was 5 hours from Bahrain, but then said she had a 3 hour stopover somewhere.

She said her customers were Arabs, and she was given Thai food.

No chance she was in Panama, but merely someplace with a similar name.

At any rate, doing dozens of customers in a short period of time probably killed her sex drive.

[AmPervert]

Detailed report. I enjoyed it. Please don't forget to leave notes for Angeles and Colombia. Thumbs up.


Hi All,

Serial lurker here who has had a lot of help from the forums around the world mainly Angeles, Thailand, and maybe Santiago a few years back.

Finally had the headspace to diarise my escapades after a couple of years break from mongering in asia due to work......

[MoonShot]

A Thai lady will cry at the airport when saying goodbye to her Farang boyfriend.

She will be sad until her next customer arrives at the airport.The girls are sad because they are losing their ATM. This is true in Thailand and the PI. And as soon as you leave, another guy in in them balls deep and you are quickly forgotten.

[Knobrm]

Why is it that Thai chicks do not like to explain anything? After all this time, I am just noticing this lately. Whenever I ask a chick something and she answers I may ask why. She would rather change her answer than to explain why. Then when I ask why for that answer she is stumped.

Me: What is your favorite color?

Her: Red.

Me: Why?

Her: Blue.

Me: Why?

Her: Ow!https://www.bangkokpost.com/opinion/opinion/584201/low-iq-levels-a-wake-up-call-for-thailand

Typical IQ level in their circles is comparable to IQ of somewhat retarded person in the west. That's why.

[HorseTrader]

https://www.bangkokpost.com/opinion/opinion/584201/low-iq-levels-a-wake-up-call-for-thailand

Typical IQ level in their circles is comparable to IQ of somewhat retarded person in the west. That's why.Our observations that make the girls seem less intelligent is probably a combination of several things. 1. Poor education. 2. Family life and culture (few bar girls were motivated to develop their minds). 3. We aren't meeting the brightest minds that Thailand has 4. Perhaps lower IQ in Thailand than other places, I had not previously thought about this possibility. 5. They are not speaking their native language.

[SplitPersona]

Today Pattaya operating on extremely reduced efficiency since they have to close before midnight for tomorrow Buddha festival holiday.

LK champaign club, show girls, crystals, pandora, pure, paradise, bar fine did not even open.

Walking street hang over club understandingly did not open as they make money after midnight.

50% of the clubs that were open closed at midnight.

Don't expect too many clubs to be open after midnight tomorrow.

No alcohol sales and no open containers on the street tomorrow.

Light house club opened today!!

[Moegy]

I flew to Panama from Thailand via Istanbul, last year.

The lady told me she went to a country that was 5 hours from Bahrain, but then said she had a 3 hour stopover somewhere.

She said her customers were Arabs, and she was given Thai food.

No chance she was in Panama, but merely someplace with a similar name.

At any rate, doing dozens of customers in a short period of time probably killed her sex drive.I think she's saying "Manama" the capital of Bahrain.

[Cha Chumplin]

Mentality of a Retard. So you spend a day to get to these retards and give them money. Makes sense. Hahahaha.

I think its the language Barrier that causes so much angst.

[Explorer8939]

I have met Thai people in Peru and Panama. In Lima a Thai lady has a Thai restaurant in Lince on Bernardo Alcedo. I always stop in and ask her if she has my khana mu gob yet.Yep. I have been to that restaurant.

[Explorer8939]

I went to the newly opened Catflaps in Pratumnak yesterday. Its a Gentlemens Club, still not completely open yet. I went to get a BJ, but there were no curtains around the sofa. Supposedly, the curtains will be installed Real Soon Now.

Only 7 ladies, not many customers, and the customers were only interested in talking with the manager. The ladies mostly played telephone.

They have a sexy older mamasan. I have seen her type before, no reason for a 60 year old Farang to barfine her, but a 30 year would jump on her.

I went during the soft opening. Supposedly, more ladies will be coming later.

The question about Catflaps is whether the fairly elegant interior is enough to distinguish it from the dozen other GCs in the area.

[Mr Enternational]

The lady told me she went to a country that was 5 hours from Bahrain, but then said she had a 3 hour stopover somewhere.

She said her customers were Arabs, and she was given Thai food.

No chance she was in Panama, but merely someplace with a similar name.How would she have even known which gate she was going to if she did not even know where she was going? Told you to stop getting them hoes drunk!

[Explorer8939]

I think she's saying "Manama" the capital of Bahrain.I think you are right.

She probably flew into Bahrain, was rejected, flew out on a round trip ticket, and then returned to Bahrain to try again.

[Explorer8939]

I often schedule ladies to come to my condo at 13.00. Around 12.00, I will look them up on Messenger to see if they are awake yet. If not, I will look to see at what time Messenger went inactive. Many times, it will show that it went inactive around 7 am, which is when many boy karaoke bars close. So, the lady left her bar at 1 am, went to a boy karaoke bar, stuck around until her toy boy got off work, and then went to sleep. Which means she is not making it to my condo at 13.00.

Given that they often harass me to get a date, you would think they would go to bed earlier the night before, but most Thai ladies truly cannot control themselves around Thai boys.

[LittleBigMan]

All experts in education outside and even inside of Thailand those who aren't afraid to speak out all concluded reason " Government " schools in general NO CRITICAL THINKING TAUGHT! They are also the year in and year out of all the ASEAN countries English Last. The more you talk the faster you talk the more questions you ask they will be left behind. It isn't that they are stupid can't be stupid if there isn't anyone to teach them what they need to know. Aside from math and science they aren't taught very much and asking questions rising your hands or saying you don't understand can you explain it again isn't going to happen in a Government school it is a lost of face.

[BPalacio]

Quick summary of a 1 month trip in which 1 and 1/2 weeks were spent in Pattaya.

In Pattaya stayed at the Holiday Inn Express. Would highly recommend, especially if you're a light sleeper. Soundproofed surprisingly well and everything was very modern and good condition. Bed was comfortable. Location was right on soi Buakhao right across the street from a TT exchange. To bring up guests, you both have to sign a waiver.

Soi Buakhao had a lot of talent. A lot of beautiful young Thai women screaming welcome. Also a few Africans walking around, or sitting at Treetown. Didn't pull any bar girls because not really the type that enjoys that scene. Mostly saw freelancers.

African girls all quoted 2000 baht ST to start. Usually fine haggling down if done with tact. Very few African girls around, maybe 10 ish. Of the 10, maybe 2-3 were bangable. Got with 2 of the 3. Both were Ugandans.

1. Offered 1500 to the first girl and she asked for Bolt fare so I upped to 1600. Beautiful spinner with an absolute amazing ass. Not the flabby shit typical of African girls and not flat as a board like most Thai spinners. Just beautiful Ugandan genetics on a early to mid 20's girl. She started off with a great uncovered blow and then put on the cover to ride cowgirl. Cowgirl was amazing. She was tight and going at it hard. Probably trying to pop me off quickly but I last a while. She didn't complain. Eventually lifted her and said it's time for doggy. Lasted about 15 minutes in cowgirl, but seeing that beautiful ass from behind, I popped in maybe 5 minutes. She cleaned up and I offered her water. Chatted a little bit and I told her about my preference for African girls because of their curves. Told her I wanted to go to Kenya for that reason and she said no, Kenyan girls don't know how to have a good time like Ugandans and Ugandans are more beautiful. Obvious bias there, but seeing her body, pretty compelling case. Sent her on her way. No problems and was pleasant enough. Not really GFE, but a nice girl who offered a pretty professional experience without being cold or a starfish. Would fuck again. OF NOTE: WAS ACTUALLY PERFECTLY ON TIME FOR OUR APPOINTMENT.

2. Another Ugandan girl. Accepted the 1500 counter offer without further haggling. Bigger girl than #1 and definitely not as nice of a body. Not the perfect slim with a shapely booty that was #1. More of a chubby girl with a biggish ass. Didn't ask her she but was older she than #1. Probably 30's. Uncovered blow. Didn't initiate cowgirl, so just flipped her to missionary. Not as tight as #1. Went a bit in missionary and was kind of losing integrity of my member because of lack of tightness. Asked to hit it from behind. Nice view, but again not like the perfect view of #1. Couldn't blow from fucking, so asked her to finish with her mouth and hands. She said sure but to tell her when I was going to pop. Pretty decent effort and I popped on her breasts. Offered water and chatted about nothing in particular and she went on her way. Meh experience, not sure if I'the repeat.

3. Early 20's Thai girl off TF. Spinner with what looked like a nice ass. Offered 1500, she countered 2000. Whatever, seemed like gals in their 20's were at a premium so I accepted. Set up an appointment. She was 30 minutes late. Didn't acknowledge it so I didn't say anything. Up we went. Clothes off, see pretty significant baby damage. Disappointed. Cock in her mouth, less disappointed. Going at it pretty fast and with good suction. Put on the rubber and go in missionary. She gets into it and is moaning and getting very wet. Flip her to doggy and go at it like a maniac. She's moaning even harder and gripping the bed sheet. Pop in doggy. Give her the 2000, she showers, see ya later. Not a bad experience, but probably wouldn't repeat especially since 1500 seems like the fair going rate. Finding out that the standard petite and slim sans ass build of Thai girls isn't really my thing.

4. Mid to late 20's thicker Thai girl off of TF. Asked her TF price and got 1500. Sure. Over 30 minutes late. Asked her if she's close because if not we'll just have to reschedule because I have somewhere to be. She arrived and apologizes for being late. Up we go. Great blow. Usually like the fast, porn star blow, but she went slow and sensual with great suction and tongue action. Put on the rubber and she initiated cowgirl. Started at a reasonable pace with some sensual grinding. She gets wetter and I pull her to my chest and start jackhammering. She loves it and is moaning. Pop. She's very bubbly and giggly. Would say fairly GFE. A little unimportant chitchat and she's off on her way. Nice experience and nice girl. A bit bigger than her pics on TF. Maybe would repeat, but there are better lookers out there.

5. Another mid to late 20's Thai girl off of TF. 1500ST. Over 30 minutes late. Notice the pattern? Nicely tanned girl with some beautiful curves. Amazing cocksucker. So much so that I didn't even bang her. Just almost 30 minutes of her going to work with her mouth. Had agreed to pop in her mouth during our chat on TF, and so I did. She kept going to make sure I was empty and then spit out the goods in the toilet. Another sweet and bubbly girl. Actually took her out to dinner after. Repeated several times during the trip.

6. Late 20's early 30's girl off TF. 1500ST. Late, but not excessively. Average blow and out on the rubber. Says we have to be quick because she has to be at work in the morning. Beautiful white body with chubby curves. Didn't want to cowgirl because she said too tired? Hit in missionary and then flipped doggy where I went hard, maybe partly out of frustration over the lack of cowgirl. Popped and gave her the 1500. On her way. Was nice, but a bit rushed. Was late in the night so I am inclined to believe her excuse. She was also fairly tired. Still probably wouldn't repeat because of the lazy performance considering the other options available.

*7. Slim girl with a nice ass off of TF. Braided hair and a profile pic at the 808 club. I'm absolutely a sucker for the ghetto look. Find it incredibly sexy. Offered 1500. Accepted but chat was very slow and to the point. Initially ask her to come over in an hour. Says she's a bit far so asked if she could make it in a 1 and 1/2? Sure, whatever. Have to mention this was also past midnight and the street scene slows heavily after 01:00 ish. Over 1 1/2 hours later I text her on LINE asking if she's close? Gets back to me 30 minutes later and says sorry, can't make it and can we reschedule? Heated because it was too late for other options and it was my last day in Pattaya. Contemplate telling her to go fuck herself, but thought better of it. Not a pleasant way to end a good trip in Pattaya.

All in all, it was a good experience. Went in mid February and it is PACKED now. I haven't kept up with the forum, but if there are any doom and gloom forecasters still around, suffice to say they're wrong. A recession and hyper inflation be damned, Pattaya is flooded with tourists once again. Shithead Russians, shithead Chinese and shithead Indians in massive crowds. Thai girls were sweethearts and 1500 is the ST going rate, at least for ST. Apologies for no intel for the bar scene but like I said, I am not a fan at all. Outside of an experience in Sosua, this was my first extended experience mongering. Thailand is as newbie friendly as it gets imo. A lot of people speak English, it's incredibly safe, it's fairly cheap and the infrastructure is top notch.

That being said, I think I would like to try an African country for my next misadventure. Everyone has different tastes, but my god, the African ladies have beautiful bodies. Just have these curves that you absolutely will not find in Thai girls. And the standard for beauty is different. Small, skinny, white and with no curves is the ideal profile for the Thai demographic. Not a big fan. Will put sometime into researching a good African mongering country for a newbie, but I realize it won't compare to Thailand in terms of everything else outside of girls. See'est la vie.

*I'm fairly young still (in my mid to late 30's) but I am a slow and boring type. Pattaya was an absolute great change of pace coming from hectic BKK. Absolutely hated BKK, but that's for another post.

[SplitPersona]

At 5 pm all the tents were selling bottled beers and bottles of whiskey for their patrons blatantly.

Hooters open selling soft drinks.

Bar beers and gogo and street food vendors closed. Walking street depressing. Reminded of Tijuana Mexico during lock down.

Some places might open midnight.

I asked a beach road girl why there are plethora of huge Indian groups crowding the beach road (never seen any thing like this before). She said because discos closed. She had a point.

10,000 baht fine for establishment or individuals caught drinking on the streets.

Vendors surreptitiously selling beer on the street.

Massage parlors restaurants and dope joints open.

90 minutes to go.

[HorseTrader]

Aside from math and science they aren't taught very much and asking questions rising your hands or saying you don't understand can you explain it again isn't going to happen in a Government school it is a lost of face.One of my friends in USA is a Thai lady who received her pre-18 education from an expensive private school in Bangkok, undergraduate degree in Canada, and graduate degree in USA. She would disagree with you and say math and science isn't really taught in Thailand schools. We had that discussion a few years ago and she was extremely negative about the whole Thai education system. I remember asking what they do teach and she basically said culture.

I have a few well educated Thai friends who are far more capable than typical P4P girls, but even these well Thai educated people seem to have a screw loose in one area or another.

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[Banana Boi]

I went to the newly opened Catflaps in Pratumnak yesterday. Its a Gentlemens Club, still not completely open yet.Thanks. It's a block from Kinnaree so the location is very good. Are there going to be actual large rooms with showers like Kinnaree has?

[CaliGuy33]

Quick summary of a 1 month trip in which 1 and 1/2 weeks were spent in Pattaya.

In Pattaya stayed at the Holiday Inn Express. Would highly recommend, especially if you're a light sleeper. Soundproofed surprisingly well and everything was very modern and good condition. Bed was comfortable. Location was right on soi Buakhao right across the street from a TT exchange. To bring up guests, you both have to sign a waiver.

Soi Buakhao had a lot of talent. A lot of beautiful young Thai women screaming welcome. Also a few Africans walking around, or sitting at Treetown. Didn't pull any bar girls because not really the type that enjoys that scene. Mostly saw freelancers.

African girls all quoted 2000 baht ST to start. Usually fine haggling down if done with tact. Very few African girls around, maybe 10 ish. Of the 10, maybe 2-3 were bangable. Got with 2 of the 3. Both were Ugandans.

1. Offered 1500 to the first girl and she asked for Bolt fare so I upped to 1600. Beautiful spinner with an absolute amazing ass. Not the flabby shit typical of African girls and not flat as a board like most Thai spinners. Just beautiful Ugandan genetics on a early to mid 20's girl. She started off with a great uncovered blow and then put on the cover to ride cowgirl. Cowgirl was amazing. She was tight and going at it hard. Probably trying to pop me off quickly but I last a while. She didn't complain. Eventually lifted her and said it's time for doggy. Lasted about 15 minutes in cowgirl, but seeing that beautiful ass from behind, I popped in maybe 5 minutes. She cleaned up and I offered her water. Chatted a little bit and I told her about my preference for African girls because of their curves. Told her I wanted to go to Kenya for that reason and she said no, Kenyan girls don't know how to have a good time like Ugandans and Ugandans are more beautiful. Obvious bias there, but seeing her body, pretty compelling case. Sent her on her way. No problems and was pleasant enough. Not really GFE, but a nice girl who offered a pretty professional experience without being cold or a starfish. Would fuck again. OF NOTE: WAS ACTUALLY PERFECTLY ON TIME FOR OUR APPOINTMENT.

2. Another Ugandan girl. Accepted the 1500 counter offer without further haggling. Bigger girl than #1 and definitely not as nice of a body. Not the perfect slim with a shapely booty that was #1. More of a chubby girl with a biggish ass. Didn't ask her she but was older she than #1. Probably 30's. Uncovered blow. Didn't initiate cowgirl, so just flipped her to missionary. Not as tight as #1. Went a bit in missionary and was kind of losing integrity of my member because of lack of tightness. Asked to hit it from behind. Nice view, but again not like the perfect view of #1. Couldn't blow from fucking, so asked her to finish with her mouth and hands. She said sure but to tell her when I was going to pop. Pretty decent effort and I popped on her breasts. Offered water and chatted about nothing in particular and she went on her way. Meh experience, not sure if I'the repeat.

3. Early 20's Thai girl off TF. Spinner with what looked like a nice ass. Offered 1500, she countered 2000. Whatever, seemed like gals in their 20's were at a premium so I accepted. Set up an appointment. She was 30 minutes late. Didn't acknowledge it so I didn't say anything. Up we went. Clothes off, see pretty significant baby damage. Disappointed. Cock in her mouth, less disappointed. Going at it pretty fast and with good suction. Put on the rubber and go in missionary. She gets into it and is moaning and getting very wet. Flip her to doggy and go at it like a maniac. She's moaning even harder and gripping the bed sheet. Pop in doggy. Give her the 2000, she showers, see ya later. Not a bad experience, but probably wouldn't repeat especially since 1500 seems like the fair going rate. Finding out that the standard petite and slim sans ass build of Thai girls isn't really my thing.

4. Mid to late 20's thicker Thai girl off of TF. Asked her TF price and got 1500. Sure. Over 30 minutes late. Asked her if she's close because if not we'll just have to reschedule because I have somewhere to be. She arrived and apologizes for being late. Up we go. Great blow. Usually like the fast, porn star blow, but she went slow and sensual with great suction and tongue action. Put on the rubber and she initiated cowgirl. Started at a reasonable pace with some sensual grinding. She gets wetter and I pull her to my chest and start jackhammering. She loves it and is moaning. Pop. She's very bubbly and giggly. Would say fairly GFE. A little unimportant chitchat and she's off on her way. Nice experience and nice girl. A bit bigger than her pics on TF. Maybe would repeat, but there are better lookers out there.

5. Another mid to late 20's Thai girl off of TF. 1500ST. Over 30 minutes late. Notice the pattern? Nicely tanned girl with some beautiful curves. Amazing cocksucker. So much so that I didn't even bang her. Just almost 30 minutes of her going to work with her mouth. Had agreed to pop in her mouth during our chat on TF, and so I did. She kept going to make sure I was empty and then spit out the goods in the toilet. Another sweet and bubbly girl. Actually took her out to dinner after. Repeated several times during the trip.

6. Late 20's early 30's girl off TF. 1500ST. Late, but not excessively. Average blow and out on the rubber. Says we have to be quick because she has to be at work in the morning. Beautiful white body with chubby curves. Didn't want to cowgirl because she said too tired? Hit in missionary and then flipped doggy where I went hard, maybe partly out of frustration over the lack of cowgirl. Popped and gave her the 1500. On her way. Was nice, but a bit rushed. Was late in the night so I am inclined to believe her excuse. She was also fairly tired. Still probably wouldn't repeat because of the lazy performance considering the other options available.

*7. Slim girl with a nice ass off of TF. Braided hair and a profile pic at the 808 club. I'm absolutely a sucker for the ghetto look. Find it incredibly sexy. Offered 1500. Accepted but chat was very slow and to the point. Initially ask her to come over in an hour. Says she's a bit far so asked if she could make it in a 1 and 1/2? Sure, whatever. Have to mention this was also past midnight and the street scene slows heavily after 01:00 ish. Over 1 1/2 hours later I text her on LINE asking if she's close? Gets back to me 30 minutes later and says sorry, can't make it and can we reschedule? Heated because it was too late for other options and it was my last day in Pattaya. Contemplate telling her to go fuck herself, but thought better of it. Not a pleasant way to end a good trip in Pattaya.

All in all, it was a good experience. Went in mid February and it is PACKED now. I haven't kept up with the forum, but if there are any doom and gloom forecasters still around, suffice to say they're wrong. A recession and hyper inflation be damned, Pattaya is flooded with tourists once again. Shithead Russians, shithead Chinese and shithead Indians in massive crowds. Thai girls were sweethearts and 1500 is the ST going rate, at least for ST. Apologies for no intel for the bar scene but like I said, I am not a fan at all. Outside of an experience in Sosua, this was my first extended experience mongering. Thailand is as newbie friendly as it gets imo. A lot of people speak English, it's incredibly safe, it's fairly cheap and the infrastructure is top notch.

That being said, I think I would like to try an African country for my next misadventure. Everyone has different tastes, but my god, the African ladies have beautiful bodies. Just have these curves that you absolutely will not find in Thai girls. And the standard for beauty is different. Small, skinny, white and with no curves is the ideal profile for the Thai demographic. Not a big fan. Will put sometime into researching a good African mongering country for a newbie, but I realize it won't compare to Thailand in terms of everything else outside of girls. See'est la vie.

*I'm fairly young still (in my mid to late 30's) but I am a slow and boring type. Pattaya was an absolute great change of pace coming from hectic BKK. Absolutely hated BKK, but that's for another post.Nice report. You sound a lot like me. Laid back non-bar guy that would rather be relaxing in my comfortable hotel with the girls coming to me than to be in the bars or clubs. That's what I love about Pattaya. You can get a nice, clean hotel for cheap and just have the TF girls on call and the girls you meet when you're out and about during the day.

I also don't care much for BKK, I usually do the first few four or five days there to settle in and do the touristy stuff and then head to Pattaya and other parts of the country.

[Explorer8939]

I had another lady in my condo who worked in Bahrain, this one for 9 months. She said that she slept in a room with 10 ladies, but rarely for long, they were required to assemble for lineups at all hours. After 9 months, she left with 40,000 baht.

As a result, she is pretty much frigid, her clit doesn't work, and she gets some small feelings in her pussy. So, no Thai husband or Farang boyfriend. She does like to get naked when she is drunk, though.

As mentioned above, I like to have ladies come to my place, rather than hook up in bars.

[Mr Enternational]

10,000 baht fine for establishment or individuals caught drinking on the streets.They got my buddy like that during covid. He was sitting on the steps in front of Treetown drinking a beer. They took him to jail. 10,000 baht.

[Guido88]

Anyone else seeing Russians streetwalking or freelancing in Pattaya?

I have been looking for such in Phuket, so far without any real visible signs of it.Why not go to Mother Russia? The exchange rate is good. Russia is loaded with women looking to make a few extra rubles. If your looking for gorgeous white women at bargain pricing Moscow or Piter should be on the top of your list.

Just my $. 02.

[LittleBigMan]

One of my friends in USA is a Thai lady who received her pre-18 education from an expensive private school in Bangkok, undergraduate degree in Canada, and graduate degree in USA. She would disagree with you and say math and science isn't really taught in Thailand schools. We had that discussion a few years ago and she was extremely negative about the whole Thai education system. I remember asking what they do teach and she basically said culture.

I have a few well educated Thai friends who are far more capable than typical P4P girls, but even these well Thai educated people seem to have a screw loose in one area or another.You must have read my report wrong. I have this conversation a lot with other ex-pats about my views they nearly always say " My friend " going a bit further remember I'm talking in general!

The fact that she went to a private school has the ability to leave Thailand pretty much excludes her. From my experience and I live amount Thais only and in two decades from my experience watching the kids growing up around me and my son who didn't go to 100% government school but all the kids he played and grew up with in the village did and to a great majority of them at different locations throughout Pattaya. Yes, lots of cultures but when I look at all their books, particularly my daughter in law 100% government school her younger brother now 12, many were doing advanced math like Calculus. It is surprising that so many need a calculator to give me change also another example sons Uncle once wife told me he was a top student in a government Chiang Mai school yet he couldn't do anything unless he had a calculator I once added up a bill with a second he looked at me like I was Einstein?

As noted what is disturbing and missing in government schools is " critical thinking " which is lacking throughout their society and culture the inability to come up with solutions as if they are robots is the reason you hear " This is Thailand " so much. The country is also funded by registered residents so Bangkok of course gets the most money plus the greatest choice of teachers where outside the funding nor the assignment of teachers are equal.

Those who understand the need for education rather than a babysitting service if possible find a way to send their kids to Bangkok where there are greater resources many of the government schools just go through the motion. In general, they don't teach a lot doing so keeps the massive under control.

[HorseTrader]

Yes, lots of cultures but when I look at all their books, particularly my daughter in law 100% government school her younger brother now 12, many were doing advanced math like Calculus. Wow! I read your note and that promoted me to activate my USA SIM card and call my well educated Thai friend in USA. I asked specifically about calculus being taught in pre-18 government schools and she said no way that was happening when she was living there 20+ years ago. She admitted that she has lost touch with Thai schools over the last 15 years, but such a change would be great.

If Thailand government schools produce even 5% of 18 year old students who understand the derivation of polynomial derivatives and integrals, I would be impressed.

[Banana Boi]

Thai girls I know are great at math. They know 3000 baht, 5000 baht, 1000 baht, 1500 baht, 2500 baht, and 40 baht, the price of their somtam.

[LittleBigMan]

Wow! I read your note and that promoted me to activate my USA SIM card and call my well educated Thai friend in USA. I asked specifically about calculus being taught in pre-18 government schools and she said no way that was happening when she was living there 20+ years ago. She admitted that she has lost touch with Thai schools over the last 15 years, but such a change would be great.

If Thailand government schools produce even 5% of 18-year-old students who understand the derivation of polynomial derivatives and integrals, I would be impressed.Although the system has changed it hasn't enough or will in my life going to produce even a 5% even if it did, the poor right now has no chance in hell with the government nepotism in a place where jobs are given to family and those who can pay to get them. The rich get richer the poor get poorer, and the male has it even worse if by 15 your grades are not 3. 0 plus and you need to change to another school for High School even a government school isn't going to take you unless you pay the headmaster to get in and not a lot of Thais are going to be coughing up 15,000 baht to get their kid in. Girls because they don't want them to work in P4 P make allowances even then 12 years of school they are at 7/11, KFC, Amazon Coffee, Big see, and Lotus I'm not looking down at Thais cause these are real jobs paying minimum wages hours and if you aren't pretty enough and get old your outdated by 30! Do you see any old ladies at any of these places any guys? They clean toilets and empty garbage majority of the jobs are self-employed in the Thai food markets.

My daughter-in-law basically has a Master's in Accounting but can't get a job at a bank cause you got to have connections and even then unless close Thai family it would cost her nearly 200,000 baht to buy into position. In spite of all the math and science she doesn't have a clue about world events outside of the ASEAN countries, she can't even point to South America on the globe and this is very typical. When the government dictates to the school what to teach you to get a grade to show up early to say the pledge that should pretty much spell it out!

It is a babysitting service by our standard memorization zero critical thinking reason for example they can't even pave a road properly or put in a drain system in Pattaya. But as long as they are fifty years behind when times are rough Thai raise prices this is just one of those things out of millions and there will always be pussy even if prices are up or down.

[LittleBigMan]

Thai girls I know are great at math. They know 3000 baht, 5000 baht, 1000 baht, 1500 baht, 2500 baht, and 40 baht, the price of their somtam.Inflation Somtam is now running at 60 baht.

[Explorer8939]

Why not go to Mother Russia? The exchange rate is good. Russia is loaded with women looking to make a few extra rubles. If your looking for gorgeous white women at bargain pricing Moscow or Piter should be on the top of your list.

Just my $. 02.Any male within the borders of Russia, even foreigners, is liable for conscription, to be sent to engage in human wave attacks in Ukraine.

[Sir Lancelot]

This diary continues from the Manila, Angeles and Cebu threads. Please note, I did not write anything about my week in Palawan as I was in tourist mode only. That will explain why the day sequencing jumps from 13 to 20. Enjoy and apologies in advance for the very long posts.

The journey from beautiful Coron in Philippines to Pattaya was torturous. The first flight went smoothly aside from the fact I was sat next to a woman who coughed all the way. The second flight was delayed. After an hour and a half we were able to get on to the plane, which sat on the tarmac for at least another hour.

As a result of the two and a half delay, it scuppered my chances of a proper night out when I arrived in Pattaya. I had planned to meet Sam at 8 pm for a bar crawl but it was 10.30 before the taxi dropped me off at my hotel.

I'm staying at Vogue Hotel again, on Soi Lengkee. I had a really good stay there three months ago and I don't see any reason to change. It's great value (I paid only about 700 baht a night via Agoda) and has a good location near the action. My room is on the sixth floor and is very nice with fresh, modern decor. My stay is just a fleeting one this time, just seven days before I return to England.

As I quickly changed clothes, I received a message on Line. It was the cute 19 year old from Oh Bar, sending me a photo of her blowing a kiss. She's the one that got away on my November trip, a flirty young girl with a killer body. I would have liked to barfine her but the opportunity never arose. Until tonight.

Heading out it was apparent how things continue to pick up after covid. Even Soi Lengkee had a few bars with a lively selection of girls outside. I turned right on to Soi Buakhao and noticed bars like Sick Buffalo and The Bay were a lot busier with girls. I didn't see the girl I barfined twice from Boobie Trap and I know for a fact that my favourite girl no longer works at Vixen. The roster of girls changes quickly in Pattaya.

I turned on to Tree Town and saw the lovely Jen outside her bar. When she spotted me she ran to me and gave me a bone-crunching hug. I was her first customer when she worked at Joy Bar a year ago and she's transformed from a shy, timid girl to a confident, sexy one. I'm keen to barfine her again.

My target was the beer bar complex alongside Tree Town. I walked down the centre of the street and was again encouraged by the number of girls. I spotted at least three bars that sat empty three months ago that are now open for business.

When I arrived at Oh Bar the cute girl wasn't there. I messaged her on Line and she said she had finished for the day. It was only 11 pm so I assumed she had been barfined but she offered to come back to the bar to see me. It turns out that this bar, along with many others, turned to live-streaming during lockdown and they've kept it going ever since, with three or four of their sexier girls performing in front of the camera all night while the rest work at the bar. It's a sad state of affairs that pretty girls like these are locked away from real-life customers to gratify virtual punters instead.

I ordered a beer and noticed that the bar has a new girl serving drinks, who is young and pretty. This bar consistently manages to attract young talent.

My girl arrived ten minutes later and looked as cute as I remembered. I bought her several drinks and there was tension in the air. I wanted to barfine her in November but it never happened, mainly because Sam has barfined her before and doesn't like the idea of me going with girls he's been with. A strange stance because I know for a fact that he tried to go with one of my favourite girls, Nat. Bro-code works both ways! But the deciding factor was when she told me they she hasn't been with him for 'a long time' and she wanted to go with me. Now finally nothing stood in our way.

The barfine at Oh Bar is 500 for short-time or 1000 for long-time. I really like this girl so opted for the latter, with another 2500 to be paid to the girl in the morning.

In the room she became very shy and it took a lot of gentle persuasion for her towel to fall off. Given how flirty she had been with me on Line, I expected a girlfriend experience but she was an unenthusiastic kisser, kissing with her mouth closed. She had amazing fuller natural tits but she didn't like having her nipples sucked. I started rubbing her pussy but she giggled and said that it was ticklish. This was turning in to hard work!

Rewind to my time in Philippines and all 15 girls were passionate kissers with few inhibitions. One of them bought handcuffs and called me Officer Lance all night!

'We boom boom now' she said, stroking my dick until it was rock hard.

She spread her legs and it was an amazing feeling, sliding in to a girl I've fantasized about fucking for months back in England.

Her pussy was tight and she tightened her face as I pushed all the way in, so I was slow and gentle with her, savouring every minute. We soon found our rhythm and before long I was giving her a good pounding, watching her fabulous tits wobbling erratically.

I slapped in to her from behind, doggy style then she finished by riding me in an inexperienced manner. She just sat up and wiggled her hips on mine, which might not have been enough to get my rocks off, but looked super-sexy. You can't beat the sight of being rode by a big-boobed 19 year old. I squeezed her big tits and thought it was good to be back in Pattaya.

[Explorer8939]

The number of ladies in Pattaya is increasing, while the number of customers is slowly decreasing.

This is because there were a ton of customers in December, the ladies made a pile of money, and told their friends in Isaan. Now that the holiday season is over, many customers have returned home, but the ladies keep arriving.

[GrapeMan]

As noted what is disturbing and missing in government schools is " critical thinking " which is lacking throughout their society and culture the inability to come up with solutions as if they are robots is the reason you hear " This is Thailand " so much..This doesn't really specifically relate to thailand, but of course it is there. For education, the western world generally focuses on asking questions and critical thinking, East asia / SE Asia generally focuses on memorization and repetition of tasks, rarely new ideas or methods or deconstruction. Basically, critical thinking is generally not a prioritized skill in the east, while in the west, its fundamental part of the curriculum from start to finish. Of course you will find exceptions here, but these are more or less general concepts of the difference in ideas of education.

[Banana Boi]

The number of ladies in Pattaya is increasing, while the number of customers is slowly decreasing.

This is because there were a ton of customers in December, the ladies made a pile of money, and told their friends in Isaan. Now that the holiday season is over, many customers have returned home, but the ladies keep arriving.Did you find this to be any different in any year pre-COVID?

The girls keep coming and coming at least til Songkran. 'High season' means lots of guys/customers. It doesn't necessarily mean fewer girls in "low season'. The 2 months I noticed the fewest girls in Pattaya gogo bars are July and August but the girls quickly return around mid to end of September.

[Explorer8939]

Did you find this to be any different in any year pre-COVID?

The girls keep coming and coming at least til Songkran. 'High season' means lots of guys/customers. It doesn't necessarily mean fewer girls in "low season'. The 2 months I noticed the fewest girls in Pattaya gogo bars are July and August but the girls quickly return around mid to end of September.It is a similar pattern as the years before Covid, except that the quantity of ladies before High Season after Covid was very low, at this time a year ago. The customers showed up before the ladies started arriving in mass numbers.

Now, there are large numbers of ladies sitting in bars, just as the customer base is evaporating.

[Mr Enternational]

I received a message on Line. It was the cute 19 year old from Oh Bar, sending me a photo of her blowing a kiss. She's the one that got away on my November trip, a flirty young girl with a killer body. I would have liked to barfine her but the opportunity never arose. Until tonight.

When I arrived at Oh Bar the cute girl wasn't there. I messaged her on Line and she said she had finished for the day. It was only 11 pm.

My girl arrived ten minutes later and looked as cute as I remembered. I bought her several drinks and there was tension in the air. Bro-code works both ways! But the deciding factor was when she told me they she hasn't been with him for 'a long time' and she wanted to go with me. Now finally nothing stood in our way.

The barfine at Oh Bar is 500 for short-time or 1000 for long-time. I really like this girl so opted for the latter, with another 2500 to be paid to the girl in the morning.Are you fucking with us right now? You really actually had a girl's contact info. While she was off work, you contacted her come to work so that you could give her boss money for her to go with you on her off time? People really do leave their brains at the airport when they come to this place.

[LittleBigMan]

This doesn't really specifically relate to thailand, but of course it is there. For education, the western world generally focuses on asking questions and critical thinking, East asia / SE Asia generally focuses on memorization and repetition of tasks, rarely new ideas or methods or deconstruction. Basically, critical thinking is generally not a prioritized skill in the east, while in the west, its fundamental part of the curriculum from start to finish. Of course you will find exceptions here, but these are more or less general concepts of the difference in ideas of education.It might not directly relate the topic but that is where you missed!

Majority of the topic as to why or why not a girl does what she does confusing punters scratching their head is all related in some way to the topic being discussed. Expert data in regards to Thailand government education system points to this one issue " critical thinking " there is data when South Korea, Japa.

And. China raise is from changing from the system Thailand still apply.

The reason girls charge the prices or don't, why they are late, why they can't meet at a specific location when explain to them in perfect English, it all seems unrelated but not everything discussed here is going to stare you in the face.

Remember there is only one Moderator when other start dictating or even suggest there is going to be problems. What I do notice is those who suggest have a hard time sticking to their own suggestion.

Patience everything in good time,.

[Cha Chumplin]

It is a similar pattern as the years before Covid, except that the quantity of ladies before High Season after Covid was very low, at this time a year ago. The customers showed up before the ladies started arriving in mass numbers.

Now, there are large numbers of ladies sitting in bars, just as the customer base is evaporating.High season or low season I always see hordes of Bargirls with no customers.

[Explorer8939]

I left some open days in my schedule, starting yesterday, with no ladies scheduled to come to my condo. It is still High Season, although the end is near. But it means that ladies aren't pinging me much to ask to come to my condo.

I am playing it by ear. If I want female company, I can go to a bar and barfine a lady. Except that the good ones are mostly taken, guys on 2 week holidays will barfine them for the rest of their holiday.

So. Right now, I don't know what I want, maybe I will come up with a plan later today.

On day 10, I will have a pool villa for a few days, and yes, I have already booked ladies for my stay there.

The joy of being a full time resident of Pattaya!

[Mr Enternational]

My 7 Eleven chick came over last night. Used to be 700 short time but I told her I was bumping her up to 1200 long time. I asked what time she had to work and she said 9:00 or 10:00. I said wait a damn minute. How you do not have a particular time to be there? She said I have been there 7 years. I am the boss now. Well exxxcuuussse me. And I guess she was telling the truth since it is damn near 1 pm and we are still in the bed. Lazy day.

P.S. My buddy asked if I had to pay a bar fine to 7 Eleven. I told him only on her time off.

[Mr Enternational]

As noted what is disturbing and missing in government schools is " critical thinking " which is lacking throughout their society and culture the inability to come up with solutionsWell let me add blatant dishonesty to the discussion.

My buddy has a kid with a chick and they live together in a condo that he bought. He gives her money left and right. The other day she told him that she has to get 2 root canals 20,000 baht each. I told him to wait a damn minute. It was years ago, but the last time I got a root canal it was 10,000 baht. So I hit a chick up that I mess with who is a dental tech and asked her how much root canals cost where she works in Central Pattaya. 6,000,8,000, and 10,000 is what she said. Maybe his chick is going to the dentist of the stars.

Last night went to my niece's mom's birthday party. My brother had transfered $500 to my bank account to give to his kid. I took the money out of my USA account and put it in my Thai bank before going to the party. At the party I transferred the 17,000 baht by phones to her bank account. She refuses to believe my brother sent the money and thinks I gave her the money. I said look lady. Where the hell do you think I have 17,000 baht to just give away to you?

I told my brother and sent him a picture of us from the party. He said that girl is so dishonest. After I gave her the money she turns around to ask him for money to go to Bangkok to pick up my niece. She also tells him that she would stay home because she has to work. Who the hell would feel the need to lie about not going to their own birthday party? Thai people, that is who.

[HorseTrader]

The girls keep coming and coming at least til Songkran. 'High season' means lots of guys/customers. It doesn't necessarily mean fewer girls in "low season'. The 2 months I noticed the fewest girls in Pattaya gogo bars are July and August but the girls quickly return around mid to end of September.To your point, last night I did an overnight on Samui with a P4P girl who just arrived a week ago. She asked me if there will still be many customers when the rains start. I told her I never come during rainy season and I had to explain why I only come when weather is expected to be good.

Another friend is planning on opening a shop in Pattaya with tourists being the primary customers. I encouraged her to keep her old job until shortly before tourist season. She insists that the tourists come all year long. She quit her old job just in time for low season.

Neither of these girls seem to grasp the simple concept of tourism being a seasonal business. Critical thinking.

[Banana Boi]

Another friend is planning on opening a shop in Pattaya with tourists being the primary customers. I encouraged her to keep her old job until shortly before tourist season. She insists that the tourists come all year long. She quit her old job just in time for low season.Thai girl has desire to no longer be in P4P industry. Thai girl looks to open her own food/coffee/salon/retail shop. Thai girl sees that a good shop location that was too expensive in September was much cheaper in March. Thai girl decides to pay 200,000 baht to take over the existing shop lease of a successful business. Thai girl notices business falls flat within a month or two. Thai girl tries to sell lease with no takers until September. Smart person with business sense buys Thai Girl business lease for 25,000 baht to prepare for High season of customers in September. Thai girl goes back to work in a gogo bar in September. Thai girl is out a ton of money and 6 months of opportunity cost. Thai girl works from September to March. Thai girl repeats same mistake the following March.

[RakSopheni]

Does anyone know if the ferry from Pattaya to Hua Hin that had been operational pre-COVID, is now running reliably again?

[Explorer8939]

High season or low season I always see hordes of Bargirls with no customers.It wasn't that long ago when there were posts every day about the bars being open, but not too many ladies were in them.

[Sir Lancelot]

Are you fucking with us right now? You really actually had a girl's contact info. While she was off work, you contacted her come to work so that you could give her boss money for her to go with you on her off time? People really do leave their brains at the airport when they come to this place.My original post clearly explained that she was live-streaming for the bar from a different place (I think it's the owners condo). Tellingly, you block-quoted me and then took the time to carefully and very specifically delete the very information that adds the all important context. Hmm.

Anyway, good to hear from you again. As cheerful as always.

[GentileBear]

I never thought about asking a 7-11 employee out. But going to 7-11 over there is a great cultural experience. Sometimes credit cards are taken sometimes not. No reason ever given. Just hand signals saying NO or Stick in Card. Beautifully dressed gogo dancers buy the instant soups or chicken meals that take the 7-11 staff 4 minutes to prep and package. Then there is the Grab guys jumping in line to pickup online orders. Meanwhile I am patiently holding my sodas and chips in line and the 3 Punjabi Indians Bark at the staff to Boil Water for the 1 Tap Ramen Noodle Cup of Noodles they all 3 bought. And the staff can't understand that they simply want the Noodle Cup filled with boiling water. Total Chaos and great insight. Now, I will call myself a hypocrite due to the fact that the Beer / Alcohol sales are probably code locked and can't scan at the wrong hours. Sometimes the doors to the beer are closed and sometimes they are opened. Never know when you can buy and not be hassled. But sometimes I see a beer and I open the door and get it. Only to have to surrender the beer at the counter with the other go back items because apparently its too late or too early. Then there is the European tourist who needs to read the label or inspect the label with the refrigerator door open with his knees and decide after 4 minutes to grab another item in the refrigerator thereby blocking my fat ass from grabbing my Coke Soda ... Love the 7-11's in Pattaya.

[Sir Lancelot]

I was hoping to have 'round 2' in the morning before the Oh Bar girl left at 9 am but she didn't want to as apparently she had a bad back. I was disappointed. She had been so flirty with me on Line I thought she was a guaranteed wild time but it didn't work out that way. She kissed with her mouth closed and didn't show much affection, so long-timing her was pointless. As she offered a restricted menu I didn't tip her.

I met Sam for breakfast and it was good to catch up. He's moved to a new condo (12,000 baht a month) as his previous landlord tried to double his rent. Afterwards I withdrew a hefty amount of cash from an ATM and stocked up on snacks for my room from a 7 Eleven.

At 3 pm I decided to go to Soi 6 for some afternoon action. I'm only in Pattaya for seven days so I don't want to waste any afternoons.

In the space of four months a lot has changed along 2nd Road. Drinking Street has now been completely demolished, recently I assume as JCBs were busily moving rubble around. A sleek looking new nightclub named Club K has opened near Soi 6 but by far the most exciting development is Sabai Dee massage parlour has parted with the garish multi-coloured exterior and is now garish pink.

I didn't want to spend too long on Soi 6, I just wanted a quickie with a willing participant. Although the street is liveliest after 5 pm with a far higher percentage of pretty girls, there are still lots of girls mid-afternoon and the occasional gem. I fucked 10 girls here on my November trip and the standard of girls was excellent.

I slowly walked down the road, eyes darting from one girl to the next. There's a girl for most tastes here, from innocent-looking 18-20 year olds to hardcore pros covered in tattoos. A salon had opened on the street so the current fashion amongst the girls is coloured hair extensions. The girls at each bar wear matching outfits including sailor outfits, nurses uniforms, French maids and of course lots of fishnets.

A girl flashed me a big metallic smile at Lust, so I went inside and bought her a drink. She was pretty in a distinctive way with big lips and beautiful slanted eyes. If Netflix ever create a drama set in the red light district of 1950's Bangkok, this girl ticks all of the Asian hooker stereotypes. She was 25 and was extremely sexy in red lacy underwear. She had a slim body with what looked large natural breasts.

I paid 400 for the room and followed her peachy bum up the steep steps at the back. She'd quoted 1500 but she immediately accepted my 1000 counter-offer plus 'tip if you make me smile'. The room was small and basic, with just a fan lazily whirring above to keep me cool. There were cartoon characters on the bedsheets and a mirror alongside the bed.

We showered separately in a small bathroom and I marvelled at her naked body. She was tall and slim and didn't have any tattoos. She had perfect, fuller tits and a neatly trimmed Bush.

She gave me a nice blowjob, which looked great in the mirror and before long I couldn't wait to slide in to her pussy. I slid a condom on and fucked her in mish to start. I enjoyed sucking her nipples as I slowly grinded in to her, then leaned up and gave her a good hard pumping. I caught her looking at us in the mirror and joked it was like we were in our own porn movie.

The room was like a sauna so I asked her to go on top. She rode me as I squeezed her lovely tits and then I discarded the condom and finished with a nice 69. She groaned whenever I stuck my tongue up her juicy pussy and wanked me furiously when when heard me coming.

It was enjoyable, hot, sticky session with a sexy girl.

I took the baht bus back towards my hotel and had bolognese at the small stall where Soi Diana meets Soi Buakhao. As I was eating I had to laugh. On my trip in November my standout girl worked at Area 52 but I could never get near her because she was always with a customer, including five days straight with a middle-aged German guy with glasses. I'm planning to barfine her this week but who should walk past as I was eating my spaghetti but the German guy who had monopolised her!

Sam and I decided on an early start to our bar-crawl tonight, meeting at 6 pm at Subway. I saw a familiar face at Boobie Trap, the sweet girl I barfined twice in November. I bought her a drink and we held hands as we chatted.

Soi Buakhao is definitely busier since November. A new bar, Pink Devil, has opened opposite Boobie Trap, Annie Jacks seems to have an influx of new talent and The Bay next door was full of girls too. Sadly Vixen though, my favourite bar in November, has lost its prettiest girls because the manager didn't pay them one month. We turned left on to Tree Town and went to Blue Sky Bar, a good people-watching spot.

We went to the bar the lovely Jen works at next. She was taking a shower when I arrived. Her parents own the bar so I presume she lives upstairs. Finally she appeared, wearing no makeup on and looking naturally beautiful. 'I go put makeup on' she said before disappearing for another 15 minutes. I like this girl and would love to barfine her again but I wonder whether she even accepts barfines under her parent's noses.

As we walked towards Area 52 we passed Sam's favourite girl, wearing casual clothes and walking hand-in-hand with a man. Sam was pleased as she's a thirsty girl and he normally ends up buying several ladydrinks for her. Instead he bought a drink for a pretty new young girl he's working on.

In the space of one minute I received two Line messages.

Ironically the first was from Miss Popular, the beautiful Area 52 girl I was hoping to meet in this very bar. 'I see you last night' she said. I messaged her back asking where she was and she sent me a two second video of a food court that could be anywhere in SE Asia. I love Asian girls but sometimes it can be frustrating getting a straight answer from them.

The second message came from my girl of the trip in November, a beautiful skinny girl I barfined twice. 'I come to work now' she said before pinning the location of her new bar on a map. It's located on a side street off Soi Buakhao, the one with the rock / metal pub on the corner. There is a cluster of bars and I saw her standing at the front of one. She looked as beautiful as I remembered, her hair freshly curled. In November she was 42 kilos and I was pleased to see she's put a bit of weight on. It was great to catch up over a drink and we agreed that I'd barfine her in a few days time.

Sam and I walked back on to Tree Town and we saw Sam's favourite girl again, the one we'd seen leaving with a customer just an hour ago. She was back at her bar so it had obviously been a short-time of Soi 6 proportions. Amusingly she denied she'd gone with a customer, apparently she was just showing him where the motorbike taxis can be found! She asked Sam for a drink but when he said we were going to another bar, she told him to fuck off. I'm detecting cracks in their relationship.

Next we went to Escape, Tree Town's only gogo bar. It's far livelier inside than November with many more girls, unfortunately most are 30+, not particularly attractive and there is more silicon on show than Silicon Valley. The air-con is turned low so there are lots of erect nipples on show. But of course the beauty of these kind of places is that no matter how unpromising they might be, it only takes one girl. I saw a lovely girl get up on stage to dance, so invited her down for a drink. She was just 21 and very pretty with braces on her teeth. She was a giggly thing too and I enjoyed chatting with her. She told me the barfine is an eye-watering 2000 before midnight and 1000 afterwards. Her prices were 3500 short-time and 5000 long-time. Steep but negotiable I'd suggest.

Sam was keen to show me Angel and Monster next, the circular open-sided gogo style bar. 'The girls are fucking ugly here' he said as we took the first swig of our drinks which did make me wonder why he'd brought me here. Despite his comment, there were a few nice ones, including the big-boobed dancer I tried to barfine in November and another girl with the perkiest tits I've seen in Pattaya so far.

We had a quick drink in Moonlight and then another in Oh Bar, where Sam unknowingly played pool against the cute girl I'd fucked last night. It was a strange situation as she kept sneaking cute smiles in my direction.

It was 12.30 and time to find a girl. Problem is, a lot of the prettier ones are safely tucked up in bed at this time of night. A case in point is Annie Jacks and The Bay next door, which were stocked with a good selection of girls earlier in the night but now only had a handful of older girls. Tree Town had slim pickings, unusually so did Soi Pothole.

I walked on to Soi LK Metro and was enticed in to Pulse by a sexy nurse with big tits. There were 15 girls dancing and the standard was fairly mediocre, but the sexy nurse who had come inside with me was great. She was 21, had a stellar body and was very easy to talk to. I would certainly have barfined her but her commercialism cost her. She necked her tequila and kept repeatedly asking for another, so I paid my bill. 'If you not keep asking for drink, I pay your barfine' I told her and she seemed to understand.

It was getting late and suddenly I couldn't be bothered with bars and having the same conversations over and over again. I walked up Soi Honey, which isn't packed with many stunners come the witching hour but I struck lucky at a small massage-with-extras place near 2nd Road. There was a nice looking 21 year old, sat behind a chunky woman probably twice her age. Ten minutes later we'd showered in a room upstairs and she was giving me an inexperienced massage.

'Okay we boom boom now' she said after 15 minutes.

The sex was enjoyable. She was talkative as I fucked her in mish and giggled when I sucked her earlobe. She was shocked when I asked her to go on top and was very inexperienced, sitting there on my cock, barely wiggling her hips at all. But I enjoyed the view as she had a majestic pair of natural tits (she's my third girl in Pattaya and all have been blessed with big tits). It was left to me to do all the work from beneath, grabbing her arse-cheeks and thrusting up in to her, making her groan squeaky groans.

Once again I was nearly melting because the room was so hot, so I took the condom off and she finished me with a really good, firm handjob. A happy ending to a very enjoyable night.

[Banana Boi]

Pattaya to Hua Hin Ferry. Does anyone know if the ferry from Pattaya to Hua Hin that had been operational pre-COVID, is now running reliably again?AFAIK it hasn't returned. I don't see Viator or Klook actively selling tickets so that's a sign.


Next we went to Escape, Tree Town's only gogo bar. It's far livelier inside than November with many more girls, unfortunately most are 30+, not particularly attractive

Wasn't aware Treetown had a gogo bar so of course I had to look it up. I won't say anything. I'll post 3 photos the club posted in the past 3 days and let you guys decide if it's worth going to.

[AggieDad1]

AFAIK it hasn't returned. I don't see Viator or Klook actively selling tickets so that's a sign.



Wasn't aware Treetown had a gogo bar so of course I had to look it up. I won't say anything. I'll post 3 photos the club posted in the past 3 days and let you guys decide if it's worth going to.From reading the posts on here I am beginning to think some of you guys don't understand how karma works. Fucking a 10 gets you zero karma, fucking a 5 gets you lots of karma. Fucking anything less than a five is just sad, even the law of Karma has its limits. So, to build up Karma you need to lower your standards every now and then and take one for the team. Thai girls really love a man with a big heart, so if that 10 sees you take a 5 out of the bar they will fall in love with you. Lucky for me I have earned enough karma in my life that I don't have to fuck 5's anymore. I will happily take care of the 10's while you guys are building up karma.

[Fmojo]

I was hoping to have 'round 2' in the morning before the Oh Bar girl left at 9 am but she didn't want to as apparently she had a bad back. I was disappointed. She had been so flirty with me on Line I thought she was a guaranteed wild time but it didn't work out that way. She kissed with her mouth closed and didn't show much affection, so long-timing her was pointless. As she offered a restricted menu I didn't tip her.Sir L. Glad to see you back and posting. Your trip reports are very enjoyable. Have a great time.

[David 2]

Does anyone know if the ferry from Pattaya to Hua Hin that had been operational pre-COVID, is now running reliably again?https://www.pattayaunlimited.com/pattaya-to-hua-hin-ferry-tickets/

[LittleBigMan]

Well let me add blatant dishonesty to the discussion.

My buddy has a kid with a chick and they live together in a condo that he bought. He gives her money left and right. The other day she told him that she has to get 2 root canals 20,000 baht each. I told him to wait a damn minute. It was years ago, but the last time I got a root canal it was 10,000 baht. So I hit a chick up that I mess with who is a dental tech and asked her how much root canals cost where she works in Central Pattaya. 6,000,8,000, and 10,000 is what she said. Maybe his chick is going to the dentist of the stars.

Last night went to my niece's mom's birthday party. My brother had transfered $500 to my bank account to give to his kid. I took the money out of my USA account and put it in my Thai bank before going to the party. At the party I transferred the 17,000 baht by phones to her bank account. She refuses to believe my brother sent the money and thinks I gave her the money. I said look lady. Where the hell do you think I have 17,000 baht to just give away to you?

I told my brother and sent him a picture of us from the party. He said that girl is so dishonest. After I gave her the money she turns around to ask him for money to go to Bangkok to pick up my niece. She also tells him that she would stay home because she has to work. Who the hell would feel the need to lie about not going to their own birthday party? Thai people, that is who.

You are right but to our standards, as I've said a number of times. It is kind of like the Seinfeld series where Jerry figures out how George passes the lie detector test. He believes deeply that what he is saying isn't a lie. There was a survey done with Thais a few years back about lies and lying many Thais from the survey believe a bit of lying is good for you and the population. With that type of thinking you can see why Thais leaders get up daily and just lie. Obvious to us why? We come from the West our education is " Critical thinking " during Covid especially you see lies after lies just blatant.

Your example is very good! They come up with these type of things their whole life no one has ever called them on it because confrontation and criticism is not a way of life them being silent breeds this type of behavior in people not only in Thais. My brother and cousin have introverted personalities and friends who I also know since we were in grade school nice guy good heart so they put up with him. But the stuff that comes out of his mouth he really believes in it even without any data throws it it is so off the wall being me I question it he doesn't like it no one has ever done that to him so he holds grudges towards me although he says he doesn't he acted on it recently but lie outright it was the case. Like Thais saying nothing I tell my brother and cousin the reason he acts this way and abuses people close to him is that no one says anything to him thus the result they create this type of situation in people as with Thailand this is what we end up with?

In the P4 P scene, it gets worse because those exposed to the scene here hear that foreigners are stupid the term in Thai is " Buffaloe " and some are so strongly about it that they are blatant. I got millions of stories about why they ask more than they need and why they ask for you to pay for every little thing, when guys BF girls want this want that " gold, phone " they feel you got it therefore you should shell it out " then it is showing off to their friends no different than if you buy drinks the girls ask if you would buy drinks for their friends everything is somewhat related. I've been told by a few girls I've been with who know the ropes and how to play it when they feel they got a buffalo. Be reserved and submissive, show them you aren't the way they think speak English tell them it is your first day. Does it work why not continue?

I got a good friend I grew up with street-wise tough used to run one of the biggest Asian gangs at home. There were a number of years I didn't see him spent 7 years at Folsom how he survived shocks me knowing him today. Us being adults now he comes to Thailand regularly maybe it is because he has lots of money it doesn't matter but for a guy who I remember being street smart is dumber than dumb I call him " Charlie Tuna " because no matter how many times he gets burned by the same lines and lies you throw him back into the water when another hook comes he bites again. This guy I would say have lost close to 100 million baht falling for the same line or lies. Once a girl he had from Bangkok who I knew had a husband in Bangkok told him but he said " you don't know her " in the end he ask her to marry the next day she took off for a few days never said a word comes back and a diamond ring says 50,000 baht please I left to buy a ring in Bangkok because they don't have shops in Pattaya there was a good known shop just around the corner from his hotel. The same girl a year later all the time sending money said he is moving to Thailand and going to live in Siracha. The girl said we need a car so can pick you up at the airport in style 600,000 baht I made a bet with my brother and cousins when he comes out of immigration he will be alone. You don't need the results, do you?

On that trip, he hooks up with another chick who after a week starts to give her 50,000 baht a month to stop work and goes back to the farm for another 10 years this girl is soaking his ass up with stuff like I need 80,000 baht for an A / see, meantime she is posting stuff being fucked by a car salesman bragging to all her friends she got one of the stupidest buffaloe on the face of this earth. Every lie out of her mouth wasn't ever really a lie to her. It got so bad that when one of my cousins got couldn't take it any longer a bunch of us got into a van and drove up to her village go the evidence firsthand for him it wasn't until then he got the message. When he stopped sending and supporting her she went on FB and posted she couldn't understand the problem and why she doesn't get a second chance.

They can because it works and no one has ever explained or challenged them so they travel down the same road. There are guys out there who think because they are poor so help yet back home never made a donation to anyone. Some get burned by BG's they think helping non-P4 P is going to be different it isn't they all come from the same school of thought. Don't get me wrong there are lots of cases out there good ones but just not enough to change how many of us think! Many don't have a clue how the banking system works in the West to this day after 20 years my own wife doesn't understand just click here and there and it is here. But if I say jokingly you think I'm an ATM that gets me the couch for the night!

When it comes to a dentist " root canal " amount is a tough call if they actually need it done. My cousin a Dentist joked he had a license to steal. When you go in pain you are at their mercy how many times have anyone of you gotten up and said let me get a second opinion and shop around.
The last major service when I need I go to German Dental years ago I had a crown done it was guaranteed for five years. Years later I had pain from the same tooth a crown made by the same place but the roots weren't killed now to do them all four roots were close to 20,000 baht and that was going through the same crown creating a hole and then sealing it.

[Knobrm]

It is a babysitting service by our standard memorization zero critical thinking reason for example they can't even pave a road properly or put in a drain system in Pattaya. But as long as they are fifty years behind when times are rough Thai raise prices this is just one of those things out of millions and there will always be pussy even if prices are up or down.Off topic, but comment anyway. There's a lot of expat moaning about Thai education system everywhere esp by those who have kids in govt schools or otherwise follow it at close distance. Just like there is moaning about military coups, Thai 'democracy' and corrupt practices thruout the society. I don't have kids in Thai schools luckily, but have close enough visibility to the system via girls that have kids in the indoctrination system as I would call it, rather than education system

I fully understand that the system is designed to be exactly as it should be in this kind of society. Just imagine what would happen in coming decades if the masses would have proper, non-indoctrinated, education that would enable them to use their full potential without being brainwashed to be as they are. Would not be the same Thailand, rather something like Sweden or other north European country. And mongering would certainly not be the same either. Thus, they will not change it, just talk about it around elections of course, just to fool the people.

Luckily, for the most part at least, this 'education' can not eradicate the deeper human instincts like sex drive nor natural gravitation towards money in Thai genes. Education system is even more important to keep on check than progressive parties as if not, could open can of worms that would be difficult to put back to can without massive bloodshed. Then whether the society should be as it is, is another discussion altogether. Thus, as you said, not much worries of (relatively) cheap pussy supply to continue unless birth rates really start seriously dropping in rural areas. Which is somewhat unlikely due to the education system that is supposed to keep that going.

[Mr Enternational]

My original post clearly explained that she was live-streaming for the bar from a different place (I think it's the owners condo). Tellingly, you block-quoted me and then took the time to carefully and very specifically delete the very information that adds the all important context. Hmm. Don't know why you accused me of altering the context of your post. You clearly said the girl said she had finished work. You then go on to say that the bar also livestreams. You say nothing about this particular girl actually being involved in livestreaming during the time she told you she had finished work. Hmm.


When I arrived at Oh Bar the cute girl wasn't there. I messaged her on Line and she said she had finished for the day. It was only 11 pm so I assumed she had been barfined but she offered to come back to the bar to see me. It turns out that this bar, along with many others, turned to live-streaming during lockdown and they've kept it going ever since, with three or four of their sexier girls performing in front of the camera all night while the rest work at the bar.

[Mr Enternational]

I never thought about asking a 7-11 employee out. But going to 7-11 over there is a great cultural experience. Meanwhile I am patiently holding my sodas and chips in line and the 3 Punjabi Indians Bark at the staff to Boil Water for the 1 Tap Ramen Noodle Cup of Noodles they all 3 bought.Damn you can not make this shit up. I walk into Texas Chicken yesterday and there are 5 of those brothers at the counter combing over the menu debating what to buy. I am behind them but talk over them to the lady behind the counter saying in Thai, Excuse me. Give me the Combo 2 please. I pay and she gives me my cup. I go fill it with drink and put it on a table and go back to the counter to wait for my food.

They finally finish ordering then they go to the table where I clearly marked my spot with the cup full of beverage and attempt to sit down. I go over to them point to my drink and shake my head. When their food comes they are like a pack of hyenas surrounding the table and devouring it. When they come away there are 2 chicken bones and 1 cup of noodles (or rice) with 3 spoons in it just like you called it! Why do all of that debating just to buy 2 pieces of chicken and 1 cup of noodles for 5 guys is what kills me.

[Abhi9]

Finally could visit this amazing city after a break of 7 years. Last one was an official trip with pretty much no action apart from a visit to Soi Honey 2. This time I had 2 days here before I headed to Phuket.

I had decided to explore walking street and beach road and thought to pick up someone from the club. Whoever seems nice, compatible and affordable. Didn't find much success on Tinder here.

At first I hopped in a few clubs which generally caters to Indians. This included Jannat, Kamaa, etc but I didn't enjoy the atmosphere in those clubs. Plus most of the girls were already busy with the existing crowd. Also, they were too crowded for my liking.

Post that I head to Bacarra basis the reports here because I wanted to experience a nice Gogo. I tried to book a seat on the first floor but I was denied stating its full. May be people from my country don't have a great history in Gogo's. For some unknown reasons they wanted me to pay in advance for a drink before I entered and I paid it because I wanted a drink anyway. Again could be because of cheap antics by fellow countrymen in the past. I liked the quality of girls at Bacarra and there were some really amazing petite spinners which were in line with my liking. I didn't intend to barfine any girl from there but I wanted to buy a few lady drinks and just chill with those ladies for sometime. I honestly forgot the name of the girl whom I liked the most and did buy her some drinks. She was so cute, petite may be like 40-45 kgs, smooth af. Fondled her for a bit and headed off to Mixx after that. Really liked the atmosphere and music at Mixx. I really liked a girl there who was probably 20-22 yrs old and super cute and super petite. But she told me she is expecting someone or she didn't want to go with me. Could be either and had a couple of drinks there. Post that I headed to Lucifer and found a cute girl sitting alone. We were pretty comfortable from the get go and I bought her a couple of drinks and we chilled at Lucifer before heading off to my hotel and she was kind enough to book a cheap ride back to hotel. I think I overpaid a little but we negotiated 3 k for 4 hrs till morning.

Her service was amazing to say the least. Didn't say no to anything. Cuddled like a girlfriend, gave me amazing BBBJ, CIM, and a complete GFE. Wasn't a petite spinner but wasn't fat either. Just the right built and extremely smooth skin.

Overall had a good time in Pattaya. Stayed in Oakwood Journeyhub which was a good guest friendly hotel. Will be adding more reports in Phuket forum.

[LittleBigMan]

Off topic, but comment anyway. There's a lot of expat moaning about Thai education system everywhere esp by those who have kids in govt schools or otherwise follow it at close distance. Just like there is moaning about military coups, Thai 'democracy' and corrupt practices thruout the society. I don't have kids in Thai schools luckily, but have close enough visibility to the system via girls that have kids in the indoctrination system as I would call it, rather than education system

I fully understand that the system is designed to be exactly as it should be in this kind of society. Just imagine what would happen in coming decades if the masses would have proper, non-indoctrinated, education that would enable them to use their full potential without being brainwashed to be as they are. Would not be the same Thailand, rather something like Sweden or other north European country. And mongering would certainly not be the same either. Thus, they will not change it, just talk about it around elections of course, just to fool the people.

Luckily, for the most part at least, this 'education' can not eradicate the deeper human instincts like sex drive nor natural gravitation towards money in Thai genes. Education system is even more important to keep on check than progressive parties as if not, could open can of worms that would be difficult to put back to can without massive bloodshed. Then whether the society should be as it is, is another discussion altogether. Thus, as you said, not much worries of (relatively) cheap pussy supply to continue unless birth rates really start seriously dropping in rural areas. Which is somewhat unlikely due to the education system that is supposed to keep that going.First, it is never off-topic if it truly was you wouldn't be responding to it. You say it much better than I can, as noted I have something at stake for my son which I've done as well as I could under the circumstances now my granddaughter which learning from my son's education although he didn't go to a 100% Thai government school more in between that than an International. Now that I've experienced and know firsthand the differences my granddaughter attends a school that is sponsored by the Chinese Mainland Government which is from my research of this school should be better than anything Pattaya has to offer right now.

At my age, I doubt I would ever see the results any good guarantee would be if a Thai driver ran her mother down during the night when she gets off work. What good we teach her seems to be undone by the mother whenever she visits her family. In most Thai couples I know the inlaws are far far away my luck they are close by.

So not to continue this off-topic based on their system the pussy will continue for those on this board and beyond because as long as it continues so will the production line in spite of all the new technology.

[Explorer8939]

Pro Tip:

If you have a lady overnight, try to have her turn off her phone. Especially important: don't let her take the phone into the toilet.

Toilet calls are for the boyfriend, and nothing good will come from a boyfriend call.

In fact, nothing good will come from any late night telephone call for a lady in your room.

If her telephone is off, she won't get the call from her "roommate" who needs the key to her room. Which is more likely to be a call inviting her to go to a boy karaoke bar.

[Sir Lancelot]

After breakfast and a lazy afternoon I decided to go Soi 6. Yesterday I went at 3 pm so I decided to try going slightly later today at 4. 30 pm.

To get there I walked from my hotel up Soi Lengkee, turned right on to Soi Buakhao and left on to Soi Honey, nicknamed 'soi Horny' due to the many massage-with-extras places dotted along it. I saw Nico sat outside Paradise, a sexy girl I've been with twice. There were definitely more girls out at this time than my desperate trawl along the street at 1. 30 last night.

I remember someone on this forum recommending I try visiting Runway along this street in November but not being very impressed. Today was a different story with six excitable girls sat on the steps outside, undoubtedly the youngest collection on the street.

After taking a songthaew up 2nd Road I jumped off at the top of Soi 6. I was pleasantly surprised at how much busier it was at 4. 45 compared to 3 pm yesterday. All of the bars on the right near the top of the street had 6-10 girls outside, yesterday there were barely any. The bars get busiest from about half way to three quarters the way down the street. I slowly completed my first recce and although the street was crowded with girls, I was a underwhelmed. I did spot Nui the nymphomaniac at her bar, who provided some of the best sex of my November trip, and we agreed to meet later in the week.

Unfortunately I was in an indecisive mood today. I completed another recce of the street and by the time I was on my third it was getting a little embarrassing, passing the same girls over and over. I needed to pick a bar to stop at and I chose Flirt as there was a pretty curly-haired girl sat at the front who smiled to me.

Amusingly my friend Owen, who I met in Pattaya in November, video-called me on Line while I was at the bar. He was wearing a big coat and it looked a grey miserable day in England. I'm sure he felt much better when I spun around and showed him I was on Soi 6, surrounded by girls. 'Sorry mate, no time to chat'. As if by magic the next girl I chatted with was called Bob, a little sexier than Owen's mate who joined us on our recent trip.

Earlier on one of my recces along the street I spotted a very cute, unique looking girl at a bar. She had her blond hair tied up in bunches, with Hello Kitty bows. Although she was 21 she looked younger, not least because she was 4 foot 9. We clicked and I couldn't resist taking her upstairs. The room cost 400 and she asked for 1500.

She was very shy in the room and wrapped herself with a towel when we got on to the bed. I gently took it off and she had a fabulous figure, with perfect small tits and nipples begging to be sucked. 'These too small' she said apologetically but I disagreed.

She told me it was best she not to do a blowjob as she'd just eaten chilli, something I'd never heard before but is probably sensible. The sex was great, not least because she was a great kisser. I find just kissing a pretty girl as she strokes my cock gets me hard and ready for action. She asked me to go slow, so I fucked her gently until she was grabbing my bum and pulling me in to her. She did little squeaky groans in perfect timing with the motion, until I thrust all the way in to her pussy and she groaned loudly.

Her pussy was so tight I had to pace myself. Slow and fast, slow and fast. I lay beside her and spooned her, then pulled her on top of me so she was riding me reverse cowgirl. Always a nice view of their bum bouncing up and down. She spun around and looked impossibly cute as she rode me energetically to a climax, her cheeks flushed pink.

Normally I walk back to my hotel from Soi 6 or take a songthaew along Beach Road. Problem with both of those options though is I always get back to my room needing another shower. So today I jumped on to the back of a motorbike taxi and enjoyed the cool wind in my face as we darted back to Vogue Hotel.

I had a traditional Thai meal of cheese and ham toastie from a 7Eleven before heading out to meet Sam for another evening's bar-crawl.

We started at Annie Jacks which seems to have recruited a few more young and pretty girls from my visit in November. Two were sat at the front but were quickly summoned to the table of a middle-Eastern looking guy, while another sexy girl was with an elderly European guy with wandering hands. When his left hand cupped her arse-cheek, she took his hand and moved it up to her waist instead.

Our plan had been to visit The Bay next door but there were only six girls and the quality was average. Yesterday's crop of pretty girls were conspicuous by their absence.

For old time's sake we went to Vixen next, our favourite bar in November. They had a pretty new girl stood at the front who told us her name was Popeye. She was nice to talk to, just don't give her any spinach.

I bought a drink for a very cute young girl at Area 52. She told me it was her first day, which sometimes you can take with a pinch of salt but Sam hadn't seen her before and he's a regular at the bar. It was also backed up by the fact she hardly spoke any English. She understood 'what is your name? ' but drew a blank when I asked how old she was. Via an App on her phone she told me she was 20. Despite the language barrier, she was good fun and very giggly, a strong barfine option.

I also bought a drink for a cute girl at Ass 95. I've seen her many times before but she always looks so serious. I wanted to see if I could make her smile, which I managed to do with a great deal of effort.

Suddenly I felt ill, so I rushed to the nearby toilet block and sat in a cubicle for twenty minutes feeling sorry for myself. It can't have been anything I've eaten, so presumably was caused by ice. Nevertheless, I had stomach cramps so decided to go back to my hotel for an hour until I felt fighting fit again.

I walked back to my hotel along Soi Buakhao. Normally I turn left on to Soi Lengkee but I decided to see what Soi Pothole was like at this time of night. Lively was the answer. I was physically wrestled in to one of the bars by an older woman and a girl with a sexy figure and a dazzling smile. I bought the latter a drink and suddenly my upset stomach was forgotten. The girl I liked was 22, the youngest in the bar by a considerable margin. She was great fun too, laughing almost constantly, flicking her long ponytail at me and dancing at the front of the bar. She was a really sexy mover. I couldn't resist.

The barfine was 500 and since her English was lacking she called the mamasan over to interpret. I'm not a fan of this as it usually makes it harder to negotiate a discount. The mamasan quoted 2000 short-time but accepted 1500 with the prospect of a tip.

We walked hand-in-hand the short distance back to my hotel but there was a problem when we reached the security counter as she didn't have her ID card. She showed him a photo of it on her phone but he insisted he needed the original. I've had girls slip through my fingers like this before but fortunately she knew she'd left it at work and got one of the waitresses at the bar to bring her the card straight away.

The sex was really passionate. We fucked in a variety of positions, kissing almost constantly. I then gave her a good pounding doggy-style, slapping in to her arse cheeks, before she rode me expertly. The room was hot so I took my condom off, intending for her to suck or wank me off, but she jumped back on immediately before I had time to object. Her technique was interesting. She lay flat on me, hooked her legs inside mine and then skilfully rocked her hips as she deep French-kissed me. After a few minutes I shot my load in to her pussy.

I love it when you fuck a girl and she just lies on top of you afterwards, you still inside her clenching pussy.

After I showered I returned to the bedroom to see her fast asleep beneath the duvet. I think sometimes these girls love a comfy bed in a nice hotel room and she had a lot of alcohol to sleep off too. I'd only asked for short-time but it looked like she'd decided to stay all night. I crawled under the duvet and fell asleep next to her.

[Sir Lancelot]

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[RakSopheni]

When meeting girls off Thaifriendly expect them to arrive at your hotel / apt at minimum 15 minutes late with an average of 30-40 minutes later than agreed. This is an important consideration if you are relying on a jump-start from sildenafil. Which I usually take 10-15 minutes before the "agreed" upon arrival. Thai girls do not consider themselves late if it is still within the hour they agreed to. After 1 hour and 15 minutes I will message them and tell them not to come anymore- to which they will protest and say they are on their way (probable lie). Part of the reason for this is they will initially agree to see you at a time that is not actually realistic for them because they just want to agree and know that in Thai cultures there are no repercussions for being late but there is a loss of face for being disagreeable.

It's sometimes a bit jarring when they show up on time or -gasp- a bit early.

This part of the culture cannot be changed and it's better to adapt to it than try to explain to them that "Westerners value punctuality"- to which they will nod their heads sympathetically and then keep on being late.

Filipinas are slightly worse than Thai in this regard.

[RakSopheni]

If a girl on Thaifriendly says she is looking for a man to marry and is not there for sex, she is 100% a scammer. Often they will present themselves as very poor and naive, or alternatively strangely well off and speaking very good english. The latter type will quickly pivot to get you involved in a crytpo-scheme, or try to get you to take compromising photos to blackmail you with. Please know, even though you must ask all the girls if they are freelancers and looking for customers, they all are. It's just a formality for them to screen you before getting their line ID.

[Explorer8939]

When meeting girls off Thaifriendly expect them to arrive at your hotel / apt at minimum 15 minutes late with an average of 30-40 minutes later than agreed. This is an important consideration if you are relying on a jump-start from sildenafil. Which I usually take 10-15 minutes before the "agreed" upon arrival. Thai girls do not consider themselves late if it is still within the hour they agreed to. After 1 hour and 15 minutes I will message them and tell them not to come anymore- to which they will protest and say they are on their way (probable lie). Part of the reason for this is they will initially agree to see you at a time that is not actually realistic for them because they just want to agree and know that in Thai cultures there are no repercussions for being late but there is a loss of face for being disagreeable.

It's sometimes a bit jarring when they show up on time or -gasp- a bit early.

This part of the culture cannot be changed and it's better to adapt to it than try to explain to them that "Westerners value punctuality"- to which they will nod their heads sympathetically and then keep on being late.

Filipinas are slightly worse than Thai in this regard.Many times "see you at 20.00" means "I leave my room at 20.00."

When Covid hit, and the bars closed, it was so dead in Pattaya that ladies would show up an hour early. That was weird. I still have one lady who is routinely 15 minutes early.

[Explorer8939]

I took a bargirl to Walking Street last night. I hadn't gone in a year, when things were still dead.

Not dead anymore. WS is just as busy as before Covid now, maybe busier.

We hit Skyfall first. The first string was very good, lots of well endowed ladies dancing topless. The bargirl couldn't get enough of the them. She picked a lady for a drink, a tiny lady with a huge chest.

But, we were on tour, so we hit Baccara. Not so great there. Lots of normal ladies in bikinis. One drink and out.

Then the newly moved Windmill. I went immediately upstairs, which was jammed. Every place was pretty full, but Windmill was 98% full. 2 middle aged Farang ladies followed us up the stairs. I would guess they were looking for their husbands.

Windmill has a lewd atmosphere. Eventually, we settled in behind 2 naked ladies on a table, and the bargirl got to see a pair of pussies up close and personal. One lady had the female equivalent of an erect penis, her pussy area was engorged with blood, and she kept fingering her clit, which I interpreted as she was truly horny (amazingly enough). The bargirl didn't know how that worked, she never saw her own pussy.

We went back to my place, I gave her clit a licking, after 15 minutes, she asked to stop (in real life, if you make a lady cum, it's hard to get rid of them afterwards). Then, she gave me a 15 minute sloppy BJ, and then mounted me for a quick ending.

This was my second round of the day. The first round was similar, but the lady was not as talented. Perhaps I should organize some training.

I might barfine the Skyfall lady, but I suspect that Long Time would be frightfully expensive.

[XXL]

When meeting girls off Thaifriendly expect them to arrive at your hotel / apt at minimum 15 minutes late with an average of 30-40 minutes later than agreed. This is an important consideration if you are relying on a jump-start from sildenafil. Which I usually take 10-15 minutes before the "agreed" upon arrival. Thai girls do not consider themselves late if it is still within the hour they agreed to. After 1 hour and 15 minutes I will message them and tell them not to come anymore- to which they will protest and say they are on their way (probable lie). Part of the reason for this is they will initially agree to see you at a time that is not actually realistic for them because they just want to agree and know that in Thai cultures there are no repercussions for being late but there is a loss of face for being disagreeable.

It's sometimes a bit jarring when they show up on time or -gasp- a bit early.

This part of the culture cannot be changed and it's better to adapt to it than try to explain to them that "Westerners value punctuality"- to which they will nod their heads sympathetically and then keep on being late.

Filipinas are slightly worse than Thai in this regard.You are being very optimistic.

I've given up on TF. With most girls the conversation on Line died right after I agreed to their price (to which I most often agree unless it is outrageous). The last line of the conversation would read something like me saying "today 4 pm? This last line would be read, usually after 4 pm, or remain unread for days. In a few instances I'd get a message days later from the girl saying "Hi". I would not reply to this "Hi", why would I? My reply to this "Hi" would not be read, or it would show as read hours or days later.

By now I must have 15 or 20 such useless "Line contacts" of TF girls on my Line messenger, each with their own conversation stubs. To me TF is nothing more than a ghosting app.

What about us getting our heads together one day and launch a campaign against those ghosters to teach them a lesson? Like proposing 5 k for short time and sending them on fool's errands across town?

[Mr Enternational]

If a girl on Thaifriendly says she is looking for a man to marry and is not there for sex, she is 100% a scammer. Please know, even though you must ask all the girls if they are freelancers and looking for customers, they all are. It's just a formality for them to screen you before getting their line ID.Not at all. I just had a normal chick from Bangkok I met on Thai Friendly last week come stay with me for 4 days. She is an assistant nursing student and works in a clothing store. We did all kinds of tourist things because she does not know Pattaya. Only came here to see me. She speaks perfect English. She just sent me a picture of the class she is in right now.

She left Monday then I met another chick on Thai Friendly who owns a salon in Bangkok. She was down here to relax 2 days. I went to her hotel in Dongtan Beach. Talking to another chick in Bangkok that is going to come see me. She said she rents motorbikes and loans money. Oh damn. Forgot before the chick came from Bangkok I met a chick who is a nurse at the hospital on Soi Buakhao. She works the nightshift and lives by Treetown. I have met plenty of chicks on TF that are not hookers.

I would not say to ask chicks if they are freelancers and looking for customers; much better to ask them the open ended question of what work they do. The ones that are hookers will say it, same as the chicks with normal jobs will. And most chicks have their Line ID on their profile or as soon as you say Hello, they will tell you the Line ID. I have not noticed anyone doing any screening.

[Mr Enternational]

Pro Tip:

If you have a lady overnight, try to have her turn off her phone. Especially important: don't let her take the phone into the toilet..

In fact, nothing good will come from any late night telephone call for a lady in your room.

If her telephone is off, she won't get the call from her "roommate" who needs the key to her room. Which is more likely to be a call inviting her to go to a boy karaoke bar.TF chick came over at 1 am last night. I bargained for her to stay until 10 am for 1200 baht. We got out of the bed at a few minutes past 10 am. She was writing on her phone and said she had to bring the key to her friend. Why would she say that when our time together was already over anyway? And I doubt she was heading to any karaoke bars at 10 am.

Yesterday I got 2 door keys and one of those fobs for the main outside door made. Keys were 40 baht each and the FOB was 200 baht. Took all of 2 minutes.

[Mr Enternational]

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[Mr Enternational]

You are being very optimistic.

I've given up on TF. In a few instances I'd get a message days later from the girl saying "Hi". I would not reply to this "Hi", why would I? My reply to this "Hi" would not be read, or it would show as read hours or days later.

By now I must have 15 or 20 such useless "Line contacts" of TF girls on my Line messenger, each with their own conversation stubs. Like much everything else in life it is a numbers game. Even before apps and online I was doing party line dating where you call the number and talk to random strangers. Back then you had to trade pictures through normal mail.

You do not just talk to one and wait to meet her. You talk to tons and wait to see what falls in your lap. It is like fishing. Probably not the best method for extremely picky or impatient guys. Works great for a go with the flow guy like me though.

Last week I was driving down Soi Buakhao and a chick working at a bar called out to me. I made a you-turn to go talk to her. She gave me her Line and I sent her a message on the spot. Days later she still had not read it so I deleted her. Last night I passed by and was stopped in front of that bar due to traffic. The same chick called out to me but I gave her the you are full of shit hand signal. What you call ghosting (messages gone unanswered or unread) not only happens when you meet chicks on Thai Friendly; it happens when you meet chicks in real life too. Numbers game.

Hell, as I am writing this a chick I already know that I messaged 2 weeks ago is just responding!

[Explorer8939]

The talent level at Skyfall was very high last night. One lady looked just like a Farang stripper, I guess she had a good doctor.

The mamasan asked the lady I was with if she wanted to work as a dancer. She might, if the pay is good. I hope she doesn't start to charge me more.

[HorseTrader]

I've given up on TF. With most girls the conversation on Line died right after I agreed to their price (to which I most often agree unless it is outrageous). The last line of the conversation would read something like me saying "today 4 pm? This last line would be read, usually after 4 pm, or remain unread for days. In a few instances I'd get a message days later from the girl saying "Hi". I would not reply to this "Hi", why would I? My reply to this "Hi" would not be read, or it would show as read hours or days later.Yes, Thai people are not known for their reliability, especially P4P girls. But the girls do worry about getting stood up because it happens frequently. I've taken a different approach, instead of setting a time, I've been saying something like "I need you here before 16:00, can you do that?" That worked beautifully with one girl about 5 days ago. Today I tried it with another girl and she initially said she could arrive by 16:00 but moments later she asked for 17:00. I have had success with this general technique over the years, these were just my two instances this week.

Of course, this won't stop a girl from saying she can arrive by 16:00 and then never coming. It does leave me guilt free when I make other arrangements at 16:01.

[HorseTrader]

If a girl on Thaifriendly says she is looking for a man to marry and is not there for sex, she is 100% a scammer.That certainly isn't true. My good friend met his wife on TF and they just celebrated their 5th anniversary, they both seem happy living in USA. Yesterday at breakfast I met a Thai-Danish couple who met on TF 6 years ago and are married and live in Denmark.

If you constrain your searches to places like Pattaya and Patong and look for young girls with tattoos and bar pictures, I'm sure the scam percentage is very high.

[Crocodilexp]

What about us getting our heads together one day and launch a campaign against those ghosters to teach them a lesson? Like proposing 5 k for short time and sending them on fool's errands across town?Nothing prevents you doing it yourself to girls that stood you up. All it would take is 50 baht for a new SIM card to open another LINE account.

[Sir Lancelot]

I woke to the girl I barfined for short-time last night stroking my dick. I checked the time and it was 10.40 am. It was a case of the irresistible force (a second pop with a sexy girl) versus the immovable object (breakfast) and I'm ashamed to say breakfast won.

I waved the girl goodbye with a tip in her purse. Even though we'd agreed on short-time, she gave me what I consider to be the perfect long-time. A good fuck before bedtime, lots of cuddles and affection during the night and then the option of a second pop in the morning.

After my usual English breakfast at Sports Lounge I asked Sam if he could show me his condo. Walking along Soi Buakhao, we turned right just after Soi Boomerang, followed the road up to where it curves left next to the mall, and his condo was a short distance up this street on the left. He lives in a studio flat, with the bed, kitchen and lounge area all in one room, plus a bathroom and a balcony overlooking a big pool. It was compact but reminded me of a decent 4 star hotel room. He's paying 12,000 baht a month plus bills.

I found it eye-opening as in the future I could see myself living in Thailand. The prospect of being able to meet up with leather-faced grizzly old expats like Mr E at Cheap Charlies and learn how to do Pattaya correctly (on a shoe-string with a bare minimum of pretty girls) is just too hard to resist.

On my daily trip to a 7 Eleven I pondered how do the staff put up with that 'Hello, velcooom' message every five seconds? After I picked up my laundry I decided to visit Soi 6.

It was 3. 30 by the time I stepped on the street. On my first recce along its full length I didn't see any standout girls. I was however recognised by girls at Kawaii and Ruby Club, who I fucked in November, and the girl I fucked at Exotica yesterday. I find it a bit awkward being recognised so frequently on Soi 6. I'll get a reputation if I'm not careful.

It was a scorching hot afternoon so I decided to pick a bar and sit down for a drink. Usually my favourite bars are the busy ones about halfway down, but I decided to pick one near the 2nd Road end.

The one with most girls seemed to be Mods Bar. There were about 15 girls, lounging lazily and snacking at the front, coming alive when customers walked past. I was tempted by a very dark-skinned girl with incredible braided hair but instead offered a drink to a small, cute girl with shorter hair. I was surprised when she told me she was 27 because she looked late teens. We clicked, so up to the room we went. It cost 400 baht and although she asked for 1300, she accepted 1000.

The process is always the same. Boy showers, girl showers, boy waits on bed, girls reappears wrapped in a towel, let battle commence. She was a great kisser (just the right amount of tongue) and before long I was fucking her in my usual one-two-three of positions, mish, doggy and cowgirl. The doggy was especially good as she widened her knees, lowering her bum for optimal access and I gave her a good hard pounding.

My plan had been to go back to my hotel but I decided to pop in to Nui the Nymphomaniac's bar. A cute girl told me Nui was 'at the salon' which I wondered might be bargirl speak for giving a blow-dry to a customer upstairs. But ten minutes later Nui appeared at the front of the bar, her hair long with several coloured streaks that seem to be en vogue at the moment. She looked very sexy wearing a sailor outfit and fishnets.

I only intended to have a drink with her but inevitably I found myself getting turned on. Although this girl looks incredibly cute, she's a tiger in the bedroom and I'd fantasised about fucking her again many times back in England between trips. I decided I couldn't wait any longer. I paid 400 for the room and we went up one flight of stairs to the very same room I fucked her in last November.

I was worried I might be unable to get it up as I'd only just finished an energetic session with the girl from Mods Bar, but I needn't have worried. This girl turns me on so much and before long I was sliding in to her. The sex was great but even better was all of the kissing that followed. 'I missed you' she said.

The time was 6. 45 by the time I was heading back to my hotel. I felt hungry but didn't have time for a sit-down meal at a restaurant as I was meeting Sam at 7. 30 and needed to shave beforehand. So once again I had the classic 7 Eleven dinner of cheese toasties with a few cakes for dessert. Hello velcooom.

On the walk up to Subway to meet Sam I passed Duangjai and Astro Bar on Soi Lengkee. Both were sleepy in November but now lively with girls, including a few younger ones who caught my eye. Pattaya continues its upward trajectory after covid. Further evidence of this is the big plot of land where Soi Made In Thailand used to be is being developed in to 50 new beer bars. I believe the complex will be called Myth. Let's hope it isn't a myth and the complex does actually happen because Pattaya needs more beer-bar options after the demise of Simon's and Drinking Street.

After a quick drink at Nong Bar on Soi Diana, we decided to head to Soi 7 to see how it's looking.

The answer was mixed. On the plus side, it's much busier with many of the bars now open. It feels lively when you walk down the centre of the street, being accosted by eager ladies outside their bars. The main negative though is I saw hardly any girls under 25.

Chor Leera had a sexy girl but she was playing pool with a customer. Luxor was packed with customers but all of the ladies were of a more mature vintage. In November I bought a drink for a pretty 22 year old at this bar but there weren't any girls that age today.

I did buy a drink for a smily 28 year old at Hookup Corner, mainly because I liked her friendly attitude. She was extremely flirty, stroking my leg higher and higher and asking me 'what are you thinking? ' Although she wasn't the type I usually go for, she seemed a guaranteed good time. The barfine here is 500 for short-time and 800 for long-time.

'How much for girl? ' asked Sam.

'Different for each girl' she replied.

'But how much for you? '.

She hesitated. I'd bought her a drink, yet Sam was asking the question. You could see she was uncertain how to respond but then she looked at me, squeezed my hand and said '1000 short-time'. It was a good price as she was a nice girl but I suspect she might have quoted Sam higher.

It's great to see Soi 7 busy again but I think it's probably now more aimed at guys who like a quiet drink with older, friendly girls.

Sam and I decided to walk back to Soi LK Metro and visit some of the gogo bars. It didn't work out that way though because I found my girl in the first bar we visited, Sugar Sugar.

At first it wasn't too promising, the stage filled with ten topless older girls and plenty of silicone. But I saw a familiar face sat with an elderly customer in the corner. It was the 20 year old cutie I'd bought a drink for in November, who I'd wanted to barfine but it was too early in the night. She'd been very flirty, lifting her knickers to show me her shaved pussy. She recognised me and waved.

15 minutes later her customer left and she immediately came over and wedged herself next to me. I bought her a drink and knew that this was my girl, she was pretty and a little ray of sunshine.

However I was nearly put off by the bar's relentless ladydrink pressure. Two girls appeared in front of me with a tray of tequila shots and another random girl sat next to me. The girl holding the tray indicated I should buy all three of them, plus my girl, a tequila! I shook my head but they wouldn't budge, asking over and over. Things like this make me lose my love for gogo bars in Thailand. You don't get it in Philippines. I ended up buying one extra tequila for my girl before paying the bill. Even the boy handing me my change wanted a tequila!

The barfine in Sugar Sugar is 1200 and my girl quoted me Walking Street prices of 3000 for short-time and 5000 for long-time. She was the youngest girl left in the bar so I suspect she felt emboldened to aim high, but she accepted my 2000 plus tip counteroffer for short-time.

The girl lived up to expectations back in the room.

She was an enthusiastic kisser and gave me one of the best blowjobs I've ever had, slow and deep with lots of teasing with the tip of her tongue. The best thing was the angle though. She leaned across me on all fours and gave me a great porn-style view of her sucking me as I played with her small tits. This girl was a performer.

I fucked her in mish, before holding her hands and flipping her on top in one smooth movement. She rode me confidently before I fucked her doggystyle. I could have cum but I was so impressed with her blowjob skills, I wanted more. It felt so good I felt myself quivering in pleasure several times before I eventually came.

I returned the favour and gave her a oral as she sat on my face. I love the view, looking up. She had small tits with erect nipples and locked eyes on me the whole time as she grinded her pussy and gripped the headboard tightly. She assertively took my hand and made me stick two fingers up her pussy and shortly afterwards she began groaning loudly and shaking uncontrollably.

Great sex with a great girl.

[Banana Boi]

I might barfine the Skyfall lady, but I suspect that Long Time would be frightfully expensive.You BF 3 girls LT every day so pretty sure 1 gogo girl won't break your bank.


In fact, nothing good will come from any late night telephone call for a lady in your room.

If her telephone is off, she won't get the call from her "roommate" who needs the key to her room. Which is more likely to be a call inviting her to go to a boy karaoke bar.

How many times has this actually happened to you? Having a lady leave on you early I mean. In all my years of living in Thailand it has happened to me ONCE! By a Sensations gogo girl who bailed on me at around 5 am cause she said her sister is sick or something like that. Oddly that same girl eventually went to Japan with me for nearly 2 weeks for FREE!

[SplitPersona]

One hotel on walking street CLOSED today despite full occupancy due to owners dispute and bleeding money (due to high staff wages and operational costs).

Another hotel on P72 alley facing similar consequences SOON.

Can't name names for personal reasons.

Now to good stuff.

Airport gogo showing signs of reopening.

LK Vegas gogo showing signs of life.

Music festival is jontiem this weekend.

[SplitPersona]

I never thought about asking a 7-11 employee out. But going to 7-11 over there is a great cultural experience. Sometimes credit cards are taken sometimes not. No reason ever given. Just hand signals saying NO or Stick in Card. Beautifully dressed gogo dancers buy the instant soups or chicken meals that take the 7-11 staff 4 minutes to prep and package. Then there is the Grab guys jumping in line to pickup online orders. Meanwhile I am patiently holding my sodas and chips in line and the 3 Punjabi Indians Bark at the staff to Boil Water for the 1 Tap Ramen Noodle Cup of Noodles they all 3 bought. And the staff can't understand that they simply want the Noodle Cup filled with boiling water. Total Chaos and great insight. Now, I will call myself a hypocrite due to the fact that the Beer / Alcohol sales are probably code locked and can't scan at the wrong hours. Sometimes the doors to the beer are closed and sometimes they are opened. Never know when you can buy and not be hassled. But sometimes I see a beer and I open the door and get it. Only to have to surrender the beer at the counter with the other go back items because apparently its too late or too early. Then there is the European tourist who needs to read the label or inspect the label with the refrigerator door open with his knees and decide after 4 minutes to grab another item in the refrigerator thereby blocking my fat ass from grabbing my Coke Soda ... Love the 7-11's in Pattaya.Let me simplify this. Can't buy alcohol between 2 pm and 5 pm (due to school hours?

Also can't buy after midnight.

[Explorer8939]

How many times has this actually happened to you? Having a lady leave on you early I mean. In all my years of living in Thailand it has happened to me ONCE! By a Sensations gogo girl who bailed on me at around 5 am cause she said her sister is sick or something like that. Oddly that same girl eventually went to Japan with me for nearly 2 weeks for FREE!Ladies leaving early is very common. We went through this a few months ago, when there was a discussion of the key trick, and how to avoid it.

Because so many bargirls have Thai boyfriends (or tomboys) compared to years past, they need to get back to their room not long after closing time of their bar. So their Significant Other won't know they went with a customer.

And, sponsored ladies often have to call their sponsor after their bar closes.

[Explorer8939]

You BF 3 girls LT every day so pretty sure 1 gogo girl won't break your bank.I might have a lady come to my condo in the afternoon, and one at night, 2000 baht apiece. Often I just have 1 lady who spends the night.

But I don't really know current prices at WS gogos. Could be scary.

My lady friend really wants me to barfine some silicon enhanced gogo dancer, for reasons unknown to me.