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Mr Enternational
05-27-23, 15:20
I do not understand this crazy ass Thai Friendly. Why do I keep getting later likes from chicks I have already talked to? Is the site doing it on its own or are the girls clicking me again? In some cases that I get a later like, the girl has made another profile (because I click message and there is nothing there from our previous conversation). I guess it is nothing that really needs to be understood. Just fuck whoever you come to an agreement with.
I've been sampling some of the gentlemen's clubs in the Buakhao area and Bongkot. Saw one of my providers from last Summer at Badabing. Sampled some talent at Screamers on Soi Boomerang, a cute new girl age 20 with a beautiful smile but no CIM. Excite Club looked decent but too busy. Club Fate on Boomerang consistently disappoints- no bange-able girls. Slutz on Boomerang was dead. Trying to pace myself. I feel like there might even be less punters on the ground now than this time last year. Most girls are complaining about a lack of customers.Thanks to Mr. Sopheni for the quick update on what's available in central Pattaya for those guys looking to expand their horizons beyond the often-reviewed places on Soi LK Metro and Soi Honey. It would appear the closed-front bars on Soi Boomerang are worth a visit, even though the selection can be hit or miss.
Bunky
Explorer8939
05-27-23, 16:45
Thanks to Mr. Sopheni for the quick update on what's available in central Pattaya for those guys looking to expand their horizons beyond the often-reviewed places on Soi LK Metro and Soi Honey. It would appear the closed-front bars on Soi Boomerang are worth a visit, even though the selection can be hit or miss.Another name for these is Gentlemen's Clubs.
These are becoming more and more popular. They are not as downscale as BJ bars.
RakSopheni
05-28-23, 06:37
I visited Walking Street yesterday (nice to see that the sidewalk has been repaired finally) in order to see once again with my own eyeballs the specimen much vaunted in these parts- the ethereal and nymph like GoGo girl- possessed of great beauty- the rarest and purest of all gems in the murky earth of untouchable fugly Pattaya gremlins. And I got to say boys- nothing special on hand. Maybe a few lookers at Pinup. But for the most part-drumroll- looked a lot like Soi 6, but maybe on a low carb diet with better makeup application. It gave me the inspiration for a post and the idea underlying it is that on the margins, yes, it is true, the top talent can be quarried in the WS GoGos', but the bulk of our prey is pretty much in the fat hump of the bell curve all around. As a rule, South East Asian girls will have slimmer and more petite builds than other areas, and that is factored in here. Leaving aside the issues of cost, High Price Puritanism and Bargain Chasings, let me give you my breakdown of where the looks fall for the Pattaya Looks Maxxer.
WS GoGos
Most girls are average or slim, fatties uncommon. Average looks 6. 5, with 1/20 8 or above. Nines 1/50. Selection of girls youngest.
LK Metro GoGos
Most girls are average or slim, fatties uncommon. Average looks 6, with 1/30 8 or above. Nines 1/70.
Soi 6
Most girls have an average physique. Fatties are common. Average looks 5, with 1/40 8 or above. No Nines. Younger girls are on the northside of the street, with 30-35 age more common on the southside of the street.
Gentlemans Clubs
Most Girls have an average physique. Fatties exist, but not as common as Soi 6. Average looks 5, with 1/50 8 or above. No nines, skews 5-8 years older in age than Soi 6.
Thai Friendly
(I cannot comment on age or physique because I pre-filter for my preferred slim build and age).
Average Looks 5. 5, with 1/30 8 or above. Nines 1/50. Some rare plus- nines.
Beer Bars
Most girls have below average physique. Fatties are very common. Average looks 4, 1/100 8 or above. No nines or above. Age range is the oldest here with most "girls" 30-45.
Beach Road
Most girls have an average physique. Fatties common (less so than Beer Bars for some reason though). Average looks 4, 1/150 8 or above. No nines. Age range slightly below Beer Bars.
Again- for the most part in any of these categories the distributions are within the average deciles. Your average Soi 6 girl is pretty similar to your average WS Go Go Girl. On the margins the talent is qualitatively better in a WS GoGo, but it will take work to search, compete, isolate, and execute.
I visited Walking Street yesterday (nice to see that the sidewalk has been repaired finally) in order to see once again with my own eyeballs the specimen much vaunted in these parts- the ethereal and nymph like GoGo girl- possessed of great beauty- the rarest and purest of all gems in the murky earth of untouchable fugly Pattaya gremlins. And I got to say boys- nothing special on hand. Maybe a few lookers at Pinup. But for the most part-drumroll- looked a lot like Soi 6, but maybe on a low carb diet with better makeup application. It gave me the inspiration for a post and the idea underlying it is that on the margins, yes, it is true, the top talent can be quarried in the WS GoGos', but the bulk of our prey is pretty much in the fat hump of the bell curve all around. As a rule, South East Asian girls will have slimmer and more petite builds than other areas, and that is factored in here. Leaving aside the issues of cost, High Price Puritanism and Bargain Chasings, let me give you my breakdown of where the looks fall for the Pattaya Looks Maxxer.
WS GoGos
Most girls are average or slim, fatties uncommon. Average looks 6. 5, with 1/20 8 or above. Nines 1/50. Selection of girls youngest.
LK Metro GoGos
Most girls are average or slim, fatties uncommon. Average looks 6, with 1/30 8 or above. Nines 1/70.
Soi 6
Most girls have an average physique. Fatties are common. Average looks 5, with 1/40 8 or above. No Nines. Younger girls are on the northside of the street, with 30-35 age more common on the southside of the street.
Gentlemans Clubs
Most Girls have an average physique. Fatties exist, but not as common as Soi 6. Average looks 5, with 1/50 8 or above. No nines, skews 5-8 years older in age than Soi 6.
Thai Friendly
(I cannot comment on age or physique because I pre-filter for my preferred slim build and age).
Average Looks 5. 5, with 1/30 8 or above. Nines 1/50. Some rare plus- nines.
Beer Bars
Most girls have below average physique. Fatties are very common. Average looks 4, 1/100 8 or above. No nines or above. Age range is the oldest here with most "girls" 30-45.
Beach Road
Most girls have an average physique. Fatties common (less so than Beer Bars for some reason though). Average looks 4, 1/150 8 or above. No nines. Age range slightly below Beer Bars.
Again- for the most part in any of these categories the distributions are within the average deciles. Your average Soi 6 girl is pretty similar to your average WS Go Go Girl. On the margins the talent is qualitatively better in a WS GoGo, but it will take work to search, compete, isolate, and execute.Nice breakdown of what's on offer at the various Pattaya hot spots.
Any astute gentlemen who spends enough time in Pattaya and acclimates to what is on offer comes to the conclusion that all the value is found on Soi 6 and at GC's, BJ bars and TF.
LK, WS and the other similar establishments / areas charge many times what the aforementioned places charge for essentially the same thing, with some dimes mixed in to make you think you are getting something superior to the other spots. Perplexing how so many men fall for this.
Watching footage on YT of the various areas of interest in Pattaya seems to confirm this as well. Mostly average to slightly average women with some dimes mixed in irregardless of where the footage is shot.
As they say in the land of smiles, "same same, but different na. ".
Watching footage on YT of Beach Road it looks like there are a ton of FLers on Beach Road these days and some of them look half decent and appear to quote 1 k Baht. Can any boots on the ground confirm the Beach Road situation.
I had seen a news story recently that police were attempting cutting down on FLers on Beach Road, but all seems to be busy per YT videos.
Chan Chalupa
05-29-23, 01:38
I visited Walking Street yesterday (nice to see that the sidewalk has been repaired finally) in order to see once again with my own eyeballs the specimen much vaunted in these parts- the ethereal and nymph like GoGo girl- possessed of great beauty- the rarest and purest of all gems in the murky earth of untouchable fugly Pattaya gremlins. And I got to say boys- nothing special on hand. Maybe a few lookers at Pinup. But for the most part-drumroll- looked a lot like Soi 6, but maybe on a low carb diet with better makeup application. It gave me the inspiration for a post and the idea underlying it is that on the margins, yes, it is true, the top talent can be quarried in the WS GoGos', but the bulk of our prey is pretty much in the fat hump of the bell curve all around. As a rule, South East Asian girls will have slimmer and more petite builds than other areas, and that is factored in here. Leaving aside the issues of cost, High Price Puritanism and Bargain Chasings, let me give you my breakdown of where the looks fall for the Pattaya Looks Maxxer...Good assessment.
Soy 6. Lots of 1's ,2's, in 3's. Much more than can be explained by normale Bell Curve.
Guarantee in 2099 prices will be 1,000 baht. No offense.
I'm actually taking a liking to Soi 6.
Good choice of girls even at such an early hour. I walked up to a girl who reponded to my gaze at Roxy Bar. It took some repeating for my penny to drop on what she was on about, not only because I'm especially hard of hearing in a noisy environment, but because I was not accustomed to having girls haggle over price upfront at Soi 6: she was ok to go upstairs but she wanted 1500 for herself. This must have been my very first time paying a girl 1500 instead of 1000 at Soi 6. If this the new normal at soi 6 for girls who tick my boxes, so be it.
RakSopheni
05-29-23, 04:14
Any astute gentlemen who spends enough time in Pattaya and acclimates to what is on offer comes to the conclusion that all the value is found on Soi 6 and at GC's, BJ bars and TF.
LK, WS and the other similar establishments / areas charge many times what the aforementioned places charge for essentially the same thing, with some dimes mixed in to make you think you are getting something superior to the other spots. Perplexing how so many men fall for this..This is my mode of operation exactly- but I will say in defense of the big spenders (as we are trying to be non-judgmental and avoid Price Shaming) - it makes sense for a man with deep pockets who exclusively wants the 8+ to come in and pay the Premium at the GoGo. If that's what he wants and can afford it- then there really is no issue in using the money to cut down time on sorting the options. Some people (not myself) also enjoy the atmosphere and circus like party ambience of the GoGo club and will pay premium for this experience as well. But make no mistake, it is the Premium experience and everything that implies.
I'm here 10 weeks or so and like to have sex twice a day so I do things different, let's call it Premium Economy.
RakSopheni
05-29-23, 04:18
Good choice of girls even at such an early hour. I walked up to a girl who reponded to my gaze at Roxy Bar. It took some repeating for my penny to drop on what she was on about, not only because I'm especially hard of hearing in a noisy environment, but because I was not accustomed to having girls haggle over price upfront at Soi 6: she was ok to go upstairs but she wanted 1500 for herself. This must have been my very first time paying a girl 1500 instead of 1000 at Soi 6. If this the new normal at soi 6 for girls who tick my boxes, so be it.The selection was great yesterday. This feels like almost the Golden Moment- punters are thinning out but the same number of girls remain as High Season. It will be even more Golden when they start catching on that Season Prices are no longer a thing. I give it 3 weeks.
The selection was great yesterday. This feels like almost the Golden Moment- punters are thinning out but the same number of girls remain as High Season. It will be even more Golden when they start catching on that Season Prices are no longer a thing. I give it 3 weeks.Soi6 is busier the weekends, that's probably why you've seen a good selection yesterday.
During the week days the selection is not as good.
And I don't think they will lower their prices in the next few weeks, they tend to be picky (at least the good looking ones) and are far from being desperate to lower their price tags.
Good choice of girls even at such an early hour. I walked up to a girl who reponded to my gaze at Roxy Bar. It took some repeating for my penny to drop on what she was on about, not only because I'm especially hard of hearing in a noisy environment, but because I was not accustomed to having girls haggle over price upfront at Soi 6: she was ok to go upstairs but she wanted 1500 for herself. This must have been my very first time paying a girl 1500 instead of 1000 at Soi 6. If this the new normal at soi 6 for girls who tick my boxes, so be it.There's a girl that I come and meet quite often in that bar these last weeks, I've spent some time in the bar and think they have a good selection of girls compared to other bars on soi6.
Many customers come in, have a drink with the cuties and leave empty handed. I've never seen the good lookers going upstairs with a guy.
The bar can be busy at times with so many guys pulling the horn, there is no incentive for these girls to go upstairs.
1500 is already the norm it seems, most of the girls I've talked to started at that price, one even wouldn't consider anything below 2 k.
RakSopheni
05-29-23, 05:52
Watching footage on YT of Beach Road it looks like there are a ton of FLers on Beach Road these days and some of them look half decent and appear to quote 1 k Baht. Can any boots on the ground confirm the Beach Road situation.
I had seen a news story recently that police were attempting cutting down on FLers on Beach Road, but all seems to be busy per YT videos.I can confirm BR is busy from about 18:00 on. Sometimes there is some quality in there but mostly not for me.
And I don't think they will lower their prices in the next few weeks, they tend to be picky (at least the good looking ones) and are far from being desperate to lower their price tags.Yes, there are fewer girls interested in working in the bars as the economy is so good that there's plenty of other work available. Therefore the supply of girls is lower and all the bars are competing for staff, they have to offer bigger salaries to fill the bar and that's sufficient money so that the girls don't need to go with customers unless they want to make a little extra.
Chan Chalupa
05-29-23, 09:15
Selection of what is Great on the sixth Soi.
Number of Girls has never been a Problem there. Lots to select from.
RakSopheni
05-29-23, 11:38
Soi6 is busier the weekends, that's probably why you've seen a good selection yesterday.
During the week days the selection is not as good.
And I don't think they will lower their prices in the next few weeks, they tend to be picky (at least the good looking ones) and are far from being desperate to lower their price tags.This could be true. Alas, Pussyflation. Curious, are you here at the moment?
RakSopheni
05-29-23, 11:42
"Shampoo".
Slutz Boomerang GC.
Sloppy Deepthroat, CIM.
This girl loves to slob on knob, loves to eat cum, and has one of the biggest tongues I've seen.
All yours for 1000+ 200 room. Go get it.
MartinFlevo
05-29-23, 13:57
"Shampoo".
Slutz Boomerang GC.
Sloppy Deepthroat, CIM.
This girl loves to slob on knob, loves to eat cum, and has one of the biggest tongues I've seen.
All yours for 1000+ 200 room. Go get it.https://www.facebook.com/SLUTZgc/photos listed?
Explorer8939
05-29-23, 15:03
Yes, there are fewer girls interested in working in the bars as the economy is so good that there's plenty of other work available. Therefore the supply of girls is lower and all the bars are competing for staff, they have to offer bigger salaries to fill the bar and that's sufficient money so that the girls don't need to go with customers unless they want to make a little extra.Actually, I rarely hear about a bargirl who retires to get a real job. Out in the real world, monthly salary for someone who hasn't graduated is 10,000 - 15,000. A bargirl can make that in a 10 day contract.
Most bargirls only retire IF:
They don't have customers.
Get knocked up.
Marry a Farang.
Get a sponsor who demands they leave Pattaya (and checks).
Marry a Thai man with money.
Mother too sick to take care of her kids.
Explorer8939
05-29-23, 15:07
Yes, there are fewer girls interested in working in the bars as the economy is so good that there's plenty of other work available. Therefore the supply of girls is lower and all the bars are competing for staff, they have to offer bigger salaries to fill the bar and that's sufficient money so that the girls don't need to go with customers unless they want to make a little extra.The market is currently screwed up. Too many bars opened at the tail end of High Season, all employing bargirls who missed most of High Season. Now these bars are suffering and the ladies are bored and poor.
I don't understand why bar owners can't wait until October to open new bars.
RakSopheni
05-29-23, 15:37
https://www.facebook.com/SLUTZgc/photos listed?Girl on the left:
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=pfbid0jExf41QHshB1LwXBzNJALzy7qFkNmattx2cbo2jvqTmM8BisobvgkFgMh1LEHMuSl&id=100083024934260&mibextid=Nif5oz
Soi6 is busier the weekends, that's probably why you've seen a good selection yesterday.
During the week days the selection is not as good.
And I don't think they will lower their prices in the next few weeks, they tend to be picky (at least the good looking ones) and are far from being desperate to lower their price tags.I think we need to get a little deeper into low season before the price of ass drops. At some point in June or July that should come to fruition.
I've stayer at at least ten different hotels in Pattaya over the years and keep tabs on how much they are on Agoda every month. In the last week I've noticed a significant price drop which is a good sign for those of you currently out there and I think by July we'll see another ten percent plus drop.
The dollar is also starting to gain strength again against the Baht and I could see that peak point of strength this summer and early fall just as it was last year.
August to September is looking like the sweet spot for me for visiting Thailand.
Superhero1
05-29-23, 18:04
I am traveling to Pattaya from Toronto next month. Any recommendations for a good escort?
This is my mode of operation exactly- but I will say in defense of the big spenders (as we are trying to be non-judgmental and avoid Price Shaming) - it makes sense for a man with deep pockets who exclusively wants the 8+ to come in and pay the Premium at the GoGo. If that's what he wants and can afford it- then there really is no issue in using the money to cut down time on sorting the options. Some people (not myself) also enjoy the atmosphere and circus like party ambience of the GoGo club and will pay premium for this experience as well. But make no mistake, it is the Premium experience and everything that implies.
I'm here 10 weeks or so and like to have sex twice a day so I do things different, let's call it Premium Economy.I have no problem with the big spenders, to each their own. Personally, I'm a value driven man when it comes to all aspects of life and so I like to find the sweet spot for quality and value. Most of us coming from the west can be big spenders whilst in Pattaya if we really wanted, but it doesn't appeal to me. Furthermore, like yourself, I travel for months at a time and therefore don't live the two week millionaire life that most Pattaya mongers do.
The great thing about Pattaya is you can spend as little or as much as you want on food, accommodations and women; I tend to fall in the middle range of what I spend.
555, another dreamer.He is a Wall Street guru, can you see it? LOL.
Chan Chalupa
05-30-23, 00:14
Girl on the left:
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=pfbid0jExf41QHshB1LwXBzNJALzy7qFkNmattx2cbo2jvqTmM8BisobvgkFgMh1LEHMuSl&id=100083024934260&mibextid=Nif5oz1. YUCK.
2. appropriately priced.
3. Haha. Serious Bro?
4. You probably could have Bargained down a bit.
No Offense.
3.
Mr Enternational
05-30-23, 03:30
Actually, I rarely hear about a bargirl who retires to get a real job. Out in the real world, monthly salary for someone who hasn't graduated is 10,000 - 15,000. A bargirl can make that in a 10 day contract.
Most bargirls only retire IF:
They don't have customers.
Get knocked up.
Marry a Farang.
Get a sponsor who demands they leave Pattaya (and checks).
Marry a Thai man with money.
Mother too sick to take care of her kids.I guess you are looking in the wrong place. Tons of chicks go right back to the farming that they came from. Same as someone going out to Hollywood to make it. It is not fail in Hollywood and become an investment banker or strike it rich in another area instead. It is fail in Hollywood and go back home to the same menial job you came from. Can make and will make are 2 different things.
If covid taught anything at any of these mongering places, I thought it would be that the chicks do not need to be hookers the way many mongers thought. But it seems that couple of years is glanced right over.
Mr Enternational
05-30-23, 03:44
The market is currently screwed up. Too many bars opened at the tail end of High Season, all employing bargirls who missed most of High Season. Now these bars are suffering and the ladies are bored and poor.
I don't understand why bar owners can't wait until October to open new bars.Are you saying that bars should only be seasonal? If they open new bars in October as you suggest, what are they to do come May? I can't understand why they would open a bar in the first place. Massage parlor, coffee stand, tattoo shop, weed shop, restaurant, mall, or any of the other things that this place is oversaturated with for that matter.
Mr Enternational
05-30-23, 03:55
I think we need to get a little deeper into low season before the price of ass drops. At some point in June or July that should come to fruition.
I've stayer at at least ten different hotels in Pattaya over the years and keep tabs on how much they are on Agoda every month. In the last week I've noticed a significant price drop which is a good sign for those of you currently out there and I think by July we'll see another ten percent plus drop.
Unfortunately all that says is the price of a hotel is going down. It says nothing about how much money chicks are going to want to fuck. Not correlated at all. As a matter of fact I would be surprised of a place that you told me hookers used to want more money, now they want less.
Or maybe you are speaking from a purely exchange rate point of view. And if you are, it is not like you will be saving tons if you stay away. 1000 baht at 36 baht per USD is $27.78. 1000 baht at 34 baht per USD is $29.41. Not really worth it to forego a trip because you are waiting to pay $1. 63 less for a hooker.
Mr Enternational
05-30-23, 04:20
Personally, I'm a value driven man when it comes to all aspects of life and so I like to find the sweet spot for quality and value. Most of us coming from the west can be big spenders whilst in Pattaya if we really wanted, but it doesn't appeal to me. Furthermore, like yourself, I travel for months at a time and therefore don't live the two week millionaire life that most Pattaya mongers do.
The great thing about Pattaya is you can spend as little or as much as you want on food, accommodations and women; I am the same way. Having always been able to get pussy, I just don't put as much value in it as some other guys. I am not going to be overjoyed and 3 times as satisfied by paying 3000 baht to fuck one chick as paying another 1000 baht. Hell, I have a free chick sleeping in my bed right now. I have never met a chick that I have just had to have so I have no problem stepping over to the next. I was DJing in a strip club in high school, so this gogo stuff along with the prices does not excite me at all.
Explorer8939
05-30-23, 07:02
I am traveling to Pattaya from Toronto next month. Any recommendations for a good escort?I didn't know escorts in Pattaya were a thing. I guess you could check out ThaiFriendly.
Better to just go into a bar and select a bargirl yourself. There are about 25,000 to choose from.
Actually, I rarely hear about a bargirl who retires to get a real job.Maybe, but it's harder to get girls to start.
I don't understand why bar owners can't wait until October to open new bars.It's different if you are taking over an established business but if you are starting a new bar then low season is a good time to open as it gives you time to get set up properly. I have heard stories from bar owners on another board and there's a lot of prep work in opening a bar and once opened there's still more to do as it's never complete. Something else that they might have to deal with is people not working out, the managers, cashiers or mamsan not measuring up or moving on.
....I don't understand why bar owners can't wait until October to open new bars.In business you always strike while the iron's hot.
JagerMister
05-30-23, 15:28
I'm a non-drinker, 1st time visiting. Can I just enter and ask for ST room?No one cares as long as you pay the bar fine. Buy a Coke.
JagerMister
05-30-23, 15:39
Are there places on site, upstairs, or next door, where I can take the girl from the gogo bar for a ST??
Something that is cheaper than renting a hotel room for the night just for the girl.
I don't want to bring back the girl to my hotel.There definitely are. Most of the beer bars will have some rooms above. Thats included in the bar fine. I also once asked a girl I met at Lucifer to find a ST room because I was sharing the room with a friend and he was already busy banging someone else in the room. So the girl took me to a hotel in the Walking street area. I don't remember what I paid but it was for 2 hrs.
On one visit, I ended up seeing a girl from Sabai Dee and she asked me to move in with her at her place for the remainder of my trip since my hotel ended up being a shitty place.
Most of the times the girls know where to go if you don't want to go back to your hotel room.
RakSopheni
05-30-23, 15:59
1. YUCK.
2. appropriately priced.
3. Haha. Serious Bro?
4. You probably could have Bargained down a bit.
No Offense.
3.I am proud to receive the Chan Chalupa Seal of Disapproval.
Give me your recs CC, I want to see what gets the Chalupa Gordo.
Unfortunately all that says is the price of a hotel is going down. It says nothing about how much money chicks are going to want to fuck. Not correlated at all. As a matter of fact I would be surprised of a place that you told me hookers used to want more money, now they want less.
Or maybe you are speaking from a purely exchange rate point of view. And if you are, it is not like you will be saving tons if you stay away. 1000 baht at 36 baht per USD is $27.78. 1000 baht at 34 baht per USD is $29.41. Not really worth it to forego a trip because you are waiting to pay $1. 63 less for a hooker.The way my work schedule is I won't be able to make it out to Thailand until August or so. So I'm just looking at the financial benefits that happens to entail, however miniscule it may be.
RakSopheni
05-30-23, 16:21
If a girl on TF says she has no line, that translates to "I have a BF who thinks I quit freelancing".
Explorer8939
05-30-23, 16:33
I guess you are looking in the wrong place. Tons of chicks go right back to the farming that they came from. Same as someone going out to Hollywood to make it. It is not fail in Hollywood and become an investment banker or strike it rich in another area instead. It is fail in Hollywood and go back home to the same menial job you came from. Can make and will make are 2 different things.
If covid taught anything at any of these mongering places, I thought it would be that the chicks do not need to be hookers the way many mongers thought. But it seems that couple of years is glanced right over.Correct. If a bargirl can't attract customers, she will go home. I might have mentioned that.
Conversely, if she has customers, she is going to continue to work bar as long as none of the factors I mentioned come into play.
As for Covid, it's pretty much forgotten by the ladies, except as the long period with no money.
Explorer8939
05-30-23, 16:35
In business you always strike while the iron's hot.I know some guys who opened a bar a couple months ago on Soi Buakhow. They struck while the iron is hot.
Closed already.
LittleBigMan
05-30-23, 17:06
There definitely are. Most of the beer bars will have some rooms above. Thats included in the bar fine. I also once asked a girl I met at Lucifer to find a ST room because I was sharing the room with a friend and he was already busy banging someone else in the room. So the girl took me to a hotel in the Walking street area. I don't remember what I paid but it was for 2 hrs.
On one visit, I ended up seeing a girl from Sabai Dee and she asked me to move in with her at her place for the remainder of my trip since my hotel ended up being a shitty place.
Most of the times the girls know where to go if you don't want to go back to your hotel room.On Walking Street across from Lucifer there is a Go-go called Atlantis right next to Palace short time right called Sweethearts walk up the stsirs.
350 baht, clean sheets and towels changed everytime.
On LK, Soi Buakhao make a left on left is a small weed shop left glass door center is a short time room, Also down Soi Honey small place called 5 Star nice rooms.
Jimmy Boy 99
05-30-23, 19:34
Walked up Soi Excite a little after Midnight to the big bar complex to the right of the street. Only 3 or 4 bars open but one of them, Area 39, had at least 200-300 people in it, seeming to be mostly locals, while the other bars had maybe 30 at the most. Anyone have any idea why that bar is so popular?
Chan Chalupa
05-30-23, 23:26
I am proud to receive the Chan Chalupa Seal of Disapproval.
Give me your recs CC, I want to see what gets the Chalupa Gordo.I'm not disapproving at all.
All I'm approving is when you pay 1,000 Baht your girl is what one can expect.
Mr Enternational
05-31-23, 01:48
I am proud to receive the Chan Chalupa Seal of Disapproval.
Give me your recs CC, I want to see what gets the Chalupa Gordo.You already saw. It was the girl at Amsterdam fuck club with the fake tits.
RakSopheni
05-31-23, 05:27
You already saw. It was the girl at Amsterdam fuck club with the fake tits.I passed on her. She didn't have a sexy vibe and wanted covered. Chan Chalupa hit that?
I went back to "Shampoo" yesterday and was not as great. First time I was drunk and didn't notice she's above my weight limit. I really appreciated her dirty vibe.
A girl I was really into I would never post up on here- keep those to myself, like my TF CIP spinner. Not trying to share her with the board.
I'm growing to appreciate Chan Chalupas anarchic and disjointed commentary. It's usually only slightly offensive and to be fair he does say " no offense" to, um, account for that. But it's good to have some trolls around that are essentially well meaning. Which I think he is.
Mr Enternational
05-31-23, 06:01
I know some guys who opened a bar a couple months ago on Soi Buakhow. They struck while the iron is hot.
Closed already.Me too. Wonder if it was the same bar. Probably not. They put me in some Line group and everyday it was come celebrate some damn body's birthday.
Mr Enternational
05-31-23, 06:03
If a girl on TF says she has no line, that translates to "I have a BF who thinks I quit freelancing".The ones without Line always have whatsapp. I even have normal chicks that use whatsapp instead of Line.
This could be true. Alas, Pussyflation. Curious, are you here at the moment?Yes, until Friday morning when I'll head to Bkk before my flight back on staurday.
You already saw. It was the girl at Amsterdam fuck club with the fake tits.Don't forget the girl number 8 from Desire bar on soi6.
He is ready to blow 3 K and drinks for her.
If a girl on TF says she has no line, that translates to "I have a BF who thinks I quit freelancing".Why is she still using ThaiFriendly then?
I can't understand why they would open a bar in the first place. Massage parlor, coffee stand, tattoo shop, weed shop, restaurant, mall, or any of the other things that this place is oversaturated with for that matter.First thing is they copy each others.
Then money laundering comes in mind.
Then some guys absolutely want to live here for a long time (assuming the owner is a foreigner), maybe it's easier for him to do it by opening a business, even when the business brings in barely enough to survive here.
Then there are the foreigners who married a Thai woman, in these cases she might be the one pushing to open these kind of businesses.
they have to offer bigger salaries to fill the bar and that's sufficient money so that the girls don't need to go with customers unless they want to make a little extra.That's exactly how the girl in Wrath soi6 argumented her price tag of 2 K.
Basically she is giving a good deal already because she doesn't even need to go upstairs with the customers and refuses it with many customers.
She said she makes enough money with her salary alone plus drinks commisions, plus she already has a good bunch of regulars.
But I would think it's the case only with the most popular ones, all the girls in the same bar don't get the same salary, it depends on how popular she is and how many drinks she can suck from the customers pockets.
Chan Chalupa
05-31-23, 14:11
I passed on her. She didn't have a sexy vibe and wanted covered. Chan Chalupa hit that?
I went back to "Shampoo" yesterday and was not as great. First time I was drunk and didn't notice she's above my weight limit. I really appreciated her dirty vibe.
A girl I was really into I would never post up on here- keep those to myself, like my TF CIP spinner. Not trying to share her with the board.
I'm growing to appreciate Chan Chalupas anarchic and disjointed commentary. It's usually only slightly offensive and to be fair he does say " no offense" to, um, account for that. But it's good to have some trolls around that are essentially well meaning. Which I think he is.No I did not Hit Minnie. If I recall I was surprised why she was working at a GC with that face. LOL. Hahaha.
I'm not too enthusiastic with her body. Too thin and yes her Tits do look rubbery.
Explorer8939
05-31-23, 17:24
Two different types of ladies:
Type A: her goal is to make you cum as soon as possible.
Type b: Can't get enough dick, but wants to finish. You fuck seemingly forever before cumming. Usually goes Long Time.
Which do you prefer?
Of course, there are plenty of both types in Pattaya.
Two different types of ladies:
Type A: her goal is to make you cum as soon as possible.
Type b: Can't get enough dick, but wants to finish. You fuck seemingly forever before cumming. Usually goes Long Time.
Which do you prefer?
Of course, there are plenty of both types in Pattaya.Depends on my mood. I hate the Type A that just gives up after 15 minutes. But Type A's that never give up can be fun. But a Type B on some nights when I can last forever can be epic.
RakSopheni
06-01-23, 04:13
First thing is they copy each others.
Then money laundering comes in mind.
Then some guys absolutely want to live here for a long time (assuming the owner is a foreigner), maybe it's easier for him to do it by opening a business, even when the business brings in barely enough to survive here.
Then there are the foreigners who married a Thai woman, in these cases she might be the one pushing to open these kind of businesses.My guess would be that 30% of the Pattaya economy is subsidized by startup capital that is never re-couped. There is an endless supply of Farangs willing to blow their savings in order to live the Pattaya dream and become the next Bryan Flowers. This will never not be the case.
RakSopheni
06-01-23, 04:19
Why is she still using ThaiFriendly then?It's easier to hide on her phone and turn off notifications.
HorseTrader
06-01-23, 06:30
The ones without Line always have whatsapp. I even have normal chicks that use whatsapp instead of Line.I've always hesitated to give out my WhatsApp number because it exposes my USA phone number to strangers. I just now realized that I can create a new WhatsApp account using a short time Thailand phone number. Why didn't I think of that long ago?
Even so, I prefer Line because it is easier to use on multiple devices.
MongerHunger
06-01-23, 06:50
Has anybody ever checked out Selina Place in Pattaya? Looks interesting.
https://youtu.be/fkThCl09-6E
RakSopheni
06-01-23, 07:18
I've discovered a new benefit of walking around town / getting a drink / playing pool while on an LT- it's much easier to leisurely scope ladies at various locations. Usually even the smallest eye contact is an invitation to be tractor beamed into a conversation with a lady that you quickly determine you are not interested in and so one puts on blinders as a defense. On an LT, you receive little such pressure (although they still do try), and so it's much easier to gather good information about the talent in any given location. Just try to be discrete so your current lady does not notice.
Mr Enternational
06-01-23, 07:24
I've always hesitated to give out my WhatsApp number because it exposes my USA phone number to strangers. I just now realized that I can create a new WhatsApp account using a short time Thailand phone number. Why didn't I think of that long ago?Even without doing that, you can make one using a google voice number.
MartinFlevo
06-01-23, 08:24
Two different types of ladies:
Type A: her goal is to make you cum as soon as possible.
Type b: Can't get enough dick, but wants to finish. You fuck seemingly forever before cumming. Usually goes Long Time.
Which do you prefer?
Of course, there are plenty of both types in Pattaya.Plenty of both? Seems Type be is kinda rare.
Explorer8939
06-01-23, 09:48
Buzzing Lounge is opening on Soi Chaiyapoon. Yet another Grntlemens Club on Soi Pothole.
It's across the potholes from Maggie Mays.
Chan Chalupa
06-01-23, 13:23
Has anybody ever checked out Selina Place in Pattaya? Looks interesting.
https://youtu.be/fkThCl09-6E500 baht a night. Location probably Guaranteed not ideal.
Be weary of Queen of Pattaya I hear it's a professional operation. She just the Front woman. That fake receptionist used to work on Desire Livestream. If only she weren't so Dark. Hahaha.
That's exactly how the girl in Wrath soi6 argumented her price tag of 2 K.
Basically she is giving a good deal already because she doesn't even need to go upstairs with the customers and refuses it with many customers.
She said she makes enough money with her salary alone plus drinks commisions, plus she already has a good bunch of regulars.
But I would think it's the case only with the most popular ones, all the girls in the same bar don't get the same salary, it depends on how popular she is and how many drinks she can suck from the customers pockets.Look at this, 102 drinks for 6 girls, that's 17 drinks for a girl. https://twitter.com/pattayasoi6love/status/1661397805586591744 It slowly turns into hostess or steaming girl business where weak men throw money on these girls just for existing. Some more pretty ones are becoming "drinks-only" girls 5:30 https://youtu.be/yTVYZi6Z27k.
I know some guys who opened a bar a couple months ago on Soi Buakhow. They struck while the iron is hot.
Closed already.Then there are those that became successful and profitable. Success is never guaranteed. If at first you don't succeed, strike, strike again.
Chan Chalupa
06-01-23, 23:17
Look at this, 102 drinks for 6 girls, that's 17 drinks for a girl. https://twitter.com/pattayasoi6love/status/1661397805586591744 It slowly turns into hostess or steaming girl business where weak men throw money on these girls just for existing. Some more pretty ones are becoming "drinks-only" girls 5:30 https://youtu.be/yTVYZi6Z27k.Love missile by the numbers. 102 drinks. 6 boy 6 girls.
Say boys got 3 drinks each equal 18.
84 drinks for 6 girls each is 14 drinks per bargirl.
Commission is $2 per drink equals $28. One off is OK but I doubt this is the norm.
I just don't see what you guys are seeing. A girl who can survive on drinks is few and far between. Think Priew number 8 at Desire.
Look at this, 102 drinks for 6 girls, that's 17 drinks for a girl. https://twitter.com/pattayasoi6love/status/1661397805586591744 It slowly turns into hostess or steaming girl business where weak men throw money on these girls just for existing. Some more pretty ones are becoming "drinks-only" girls 5:30 https://youtu.be/yTVYZi6Z27k.I wouldn't be worried about the live streams, I don't think it's going to be a real trend.
The big problem for the moment (for me at least), was to find some reasonnably good looking girls (early 20's, slim) at a reasonnable price (1 K for her plus 1 or 2 drinks plus the room fee, which makes it roughly around 1900 baht). If you look all around town you'll not find much good looking girls (I didn't go to the Pratamnak GCs, didn't go to soi Bongkot, but Bongkot was shit during my last trip, I don't think they improved their girls).
So I had to go to soi6 every time (I've been here for 1 month and every girl I've fucked was from soi6 except one from Buakhao). I coudn't find anything that I would want to fuck outside of soi6, the GC's around Buakhao are not appealling at all and I don't even consider ThaiFriendly anymore.
In soi6 most of the pretty girls are working in the Nightwish bars which give them a decent salary (when they are able to get a lot of ladydrinks), so most will not go with customers or will charge higher fees. This doesn't mean all their girls are drink only, I fucked many girls from their bars at the price I wanted but they were not the prettiest of the bar (to be fair, they got so many girls in each of their bar that you probably can find what you want there). The fact that I had to go back in the exact same street each time was the thing that annoyed me the most (keep in mind that sometimes you go there and don't find anything too), because you start to be recognised in each bars you've been to before, and when you want to meet a new girl, it gets a bit more complicated.
SplitPersona
06-02-23, 09:01
Last Wednesday the Immigration Police parked their van and two bikes at Victoria inn and interrogated a black patron at poison bar. The interrogation went on for like 40 minutes as Cops walked in and out of the bar. Then they left him and walked around a little.
For the last three days Hooters on the beach road has been closed with a message " under construction" without a reopening date.
Last night at 10 PM on Beach Road near the police station next to Hilton. The police set up a sobriety checkpoint with one lane cordoned off. And they were pulling random drivers for checks. So much to the assumption that traffic cops leave after 5 PM.
Tomorrow Saturday is a festival holiday and no alcohol and clubs.
In the windmill street a new Coke gogo opened next to coco gogo.
Bliss gogo reopened.
Signs of low season evident in the walking street foot traffic. Soy seven and 8 are not looking good.
Chan Chalupa
06-02-23, 09:23
Hot or Not. Only 2 choices.
Queen of Pattaya. Huge You Toober.
LittleBigMan
06-02-23, 10:27
Has anybody ever checked out Selina Place in Pattaya? Looks interesting.
https://youtu.be/fkThCl09-6EI checked out the place for a friend in January of this year. I've heard about the place years back the location is fine if you don't need to be right in the action and want it a bit quiet. It isn't far from the end of Soi Baukhao, which is just a short walk that can catch a songthaew down Bauakhao. The friendship market is within reach so is Tukcom where there is Big Mac, and Starbucks if that is your thing. W. S. Isn't far either even my age is walkable.
Personally, when I visited the lady owner or manager sitting with a young farang outside eating and drinking wasn't too friendly with me just asking how much for a month's stay. Both had the look of stupid written all over them maybe because they thought I was Thai or something just reply full.
Another place I checked out for the same friend is called Chitra Place, it is down 3rd road, close to Pattaya Klang set in from a small Soi, I thought for the price and location it was a better value room in front where large with a balcony bottom level walk out to the small pool. The one staff was friendly I believe the price for a month was 9,000 and the back area rooms were 7500, within walking distance to Big see. Extra, Soi Buakhao.
Mr Enternational
06-02-23, 11:56
Look at this, 102 drinks for 6 girls, that's 17 drinks for a girl. https://twitter.com/pattayasoi6love/status/1661397805586591744 It slowly turns into hostess or steaming girl business where weak men throw money on these girls just for existing. Some more pretty ones are becoming "drinks-only" girls 5:30 https://youtu.be/yTVYZi6Z27k.What is the problem? One person says you should not throw around money and spend no more than 1000 on a chick to fuck. The next guy says fuck you, I will spend 3000 to fuck if I want to because it is my money and you can not tell me what to do with it. And the next guy after that says fuck you I will buy 102 drinks with my money that you can not tell me what to do with so the girls will not have to fuck. Som nam na.
Hot or Not. Only 2 choices.
Queen of Pattaya. Huge You Toober.Hot- nice personality and seems like she would be fun to hang out wit, in and out if bed.
Spent a lot of time looking at everything Pattaya on youtube and his recommendations for action seems to be, quite frankly, gents clubs over the gogo-bars and usual tourist locations, for the people who have been here recently, what's your thoughts?
Chan Chalupa
06-02-23, 19:09
I wouldn't be worried about the live streams, I don't think it's going to be a real trend.
The big problem for the moment (for me at least), was to find some reasonnably good looking girls (early 20's, slim) at a reasonnable price (1 K for her plus 1 or 2 drinks plus the room fee, which makes it roughly around 1900 baht). If you look all around town you'll not find much good looking girls (I didn't go to the Pratamnak GCs, didn't go to soi Bongkot, but Bongkot was shit during my last trip, I don't think they improved their girls).
So I had to go to soi6 every time (I've been here for 1 month and every girl I've fucked was from soi6 except one from Buakhao). I coudn't find anything that I would want to fuck outside of soi6, the GC's around Buakhao are not appealling at all and I don't even consider ThaiFriendly anymore.
In soi6 most of the pretty girls are working in the Nightwish bars which give them a decent salary (when they are able to get a lot of ladydrinks), so most will not go with customers or will charge higher fees. This doesn't mean all their girls are drink only, I fucked many girls from their bars at the price I wanted but they were not the prettiest of the bar (to be fair, they got so many girls in each of their bar that you probably can find what you want there)..Reasonably hood looking and young for 1,000. As AL Capone would advise. Forgettaboutthhit.
Jimmy Boy 99
06-02-23, 19:35
I wouldn't be worried about the live streams, I don't think it's going to be a real trend.
The big problem for the moment (for me at least), was to find some reasonnably good looking girls (early 20's, slim) at a reasonnable price (1 K for her plus 1 or 2 drinks plus the room fee, which makes it roughly around 1900 baht). If you look all around town you'll not find much good looking girls (I didn't go to the Pratamnak GCs, didn't go to soi Bongkot, but Bongkot was shit during my last trip, I don't think they improved their girls).
So I had to go to soi6 every time (I've been here for 1 month and every girl I've fucked was from soi6 except one from Buakhao). I coudn't find anything that I would want to fuck outside of soi6, the GC's around Buakhao are not appealling at all and I don't even consider ThaiFriendly anymore.
In soi6 most of the pretty girls are working in the Nightwish bars which give them a decent salary (when they are able to get a lot of ladydrinks), so most will not go with customers or will charge higher fees. This doesn't mean all their girls are drink only, I fucked many girls from their bars at the price I wanted but they were not the prettiest of the bar (to be fair, they got so many girls in each of their bar that you probably can find what you want there). The fact that I had to go back in the exact same street each time was the thing that annoyed me the most (keep in mind that sometimes you go there and don't find anything too), because you start to be recognised in each bars you've been to before, and when you want to meet a new girl, it gets a bit more complicated.Agree that the gents clubs and bars around Soi Buakhao don't really have many good looking girls, at least during daylight hours (I am an afternoon / early evening fucker). On my trip last summer I fucked several girls from Soi Pothole, even one from Maggie Mays. It is now a disaster area. I have walked up and down Soi Pothole nearly every day for a month and never seen anyone I wanted to fuck.
Soi 6 has been the best place to find girls I want to fuck at the time I want to fuck, although even there most of them are un-fuckable, so have had mostly repeat sessions with a few girls. Unfortunately one of them went to work at XS ago-go, so lost contact with her, but my favorite, Pepe, a light skinned, short-haired, adorably cute half-Chinese freelancer (she doesn't wear a bar uniform like the other girls there) with a great slim body is still at Smoke and Kisses on the north end of Soi 6. Have had 8 or so fantastic, full GFE, 1-2 hour sessions with her (had a 2-hour session just today). If you have not been with her already, strongly recommend you check her out.
Member #4782
06-02-23, 21:17
From time to time I stumble on Queen of Pattaya videos. And I genuinely can't tell anymore is she advertising happy ending businesses and her friends. Or am I simply too fucked in head and objectifying poor girls.
For example. Is this a happy ending place?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hfFkhJ-_0sk
Agree that the gents clubs and bars around Soi Buakhao don't really have many good looking girls, at least during daylight hours (I am an afternoon / early evening fucker). On my trip last summer I fucked several girls from Soi Pothole, even one from Maggie Mays. It is now a disaster area. I have walked up and down Soi Pothole nearly every day for a month and never seen anyone I wanted to fuck.
Soi 6 has been the best place to find girls I want to fuck at the time I want to fuck, although even there most of them are un-fuckable, so have had mostly repeat sessions with a few girls. Unfortunately one of them went to work at XS ago-go, so lost contact with her, but my favorite, Pepe, a light skinned, short-haired, adorably cute half-Chinese freelancer (she doesn't wear a bar uniform like the other girls there) with a great slim body is still at Smoke and Kisses on the north end of Soi 6. Have had 8 or so fantastic, full GFE, 1-2 hour sessions with her (had a 2-hour session just today). If you have not been with her already, strongly recommend you check her out.I was in Pattaya multiple times August through October of last year and yes there are not a ton of lookers at GCs, Bongkot or Tree Town area, slightly more quality on Soi 6.
I think this is the norm at this point and should be expected by mongers in Patts. You have to spend time in bkk if you want the true hotties.
GentileBear
06-03-23, 01:35
Makes me feel so normal to read others say they found love on Soy 6 and at the same time downplay Maggie Mays. I couldn't get myself in the door of Maggie Mays because the smell on that soy. Never have understood why it seems to get a lot of attention. But Soy 6 ladies compared to the crazy over priced places on Walking Street was a no brainer for me. Just my opinion. There is a lot of ladies around Pattaya and I have also had good luck on the Beach Road Coconut Bar ladies.
Soi 6 has been the best place to find girls I want to fuck at the time I want to fuck, although even there most of them are un-fuckable, so have had mostly repeat sessions with a few girls. Same for me, had to repeat most of the girls because I couldn't find many others appealing or at a decent price.
but my favorite, Pepe, a light skinned, short-haired, adorably cute half-Chinese freelancer (she doesn't wear a bar uniform like the other girls there) with a great slim body is still at Smoke and Kisses on the north end of Soi 6. Have had 8 or so fantastic, full GFE, 1-2 hour sessions with her (had a 2-hour session just today). If you have not been with her already, strongly recommend you check her out.Thanks for the recommandation, never met her, but unfortunately I moved from Pattaya yesterday.
Mr Enternational
06-03-23, 02:18
Commission is $2 per drink equals $28. One off is OK but I doubt this is the norm.
I just don't see what you guys are seeing. A girl who can survive on drinks is few and far between.You are not seeing it because you guys continue to think it takes more to money to be a local Thai than it actually does. If the average pay is $10 per day, then the person that got the $28 (same as the chick that has been in my bed the last 11 hours) is doing 3 times better than average.
I had to do the yearly registration on my motorbike a couple of days ago. 60 baht for inspection. 100 baht for registration. 6 baht late fee (1 baht per month). Insurance was the big fee. 300 baht prorated 6 months. Back in America the late fee alone would have been more than double all of this put together. This place is not expensive.
Hi Everyone,
I'll be honest I'm pretty new to this whole thing. I was looking to spend a week or so in a place with beautiful women that don't break the bank, so I thought Thailand would be a good option. That being said, the only time I can go is in August, and I thought I'd ask for some advice on where to go and what to do. I've heard mixed things about Pattaya in August; do you guys think it's a better option than Bangkok during that time of year? Also, I'm the type of guy that likes to get one or two high-quality girls for a few days to a week at a time. Also how do you recommend I find said high-quality girls. Oh and any other recommendations that generally come to mind like hotels to stay at would be appreciated. For reference, I'm looking to spend about 3 k (not including flight costs) for the week on hotels, food, girls, drinks, etc.
Thanks!
Chan Chalupa
06-03-23, 04:43
How much would you pay?
Assumption. 100 customers in her career and all gave 10 stars per perfomance and personality.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jDvP8d6-8xU
-35.09. You have to scroll backward to see relevant girl.
This is maninly geared to those who arent enthralled to pay outrageous baht for better than avg lookers.
Don't be afraid. No one will bite you for giving silly answers.
RakSopheni
06-03-23, 06:33
Spent a lot of time looking at everything Pattaya on youtube and his recommendations for action seems to be, quite frankly, gents clubs over the gogo-bars and usual tourist locations, for the people who have been here recently, what's your thoughts?This is a much discussed item here, read back a few pages. I generally agree with EP youtube channel but will say, as many have recently posted, it's becoming difficult to find high quality girls in the GC's and Soi 6 and becomes a real search and destroy mission. It does not feel like point and shoot anymore.
RakSopheni
06-03-23, 06:50
Same for me, had to repeat most of the girls because I couldn't find many others appealing or at a decent price..
I was in Pattaya multiple times August through October of last year and yes there are not a ton of lookers at GCs, Bongkot or Tree Town area, slightly more quality on Soi 6.
I think this is the norm at this point and should be expected by mongers in Patts. You have to spend time in bkk if you want the true hotties.
Agree that the gents clubs and bars around Soi Buakhao don't really have many good looking girls, at least during daylight hours (I am an afternoon / early evening fucker). On my trip last summer I fucked several girls from Soi Pothole, even one from Maggie Mays. It is now a disaster area. I have walked up and down Soi Pothole nearly every day for a month and never seen anyone I wanted to fuck.
Soi 6 has been the best place to find girls I want to fuck at the time I want to fuck, although even there most of them are un-fuckable, so have had mostly repeat sessions with a few girls..All these posts resonate with my experience here so far this summer. To be honest I've mostly been repeating with my TF girl who is giving me great LT service and checks my boxes. Her body is exactly what I need, most BM would not be impressed with her face, but there is a sexy Lolita quality to her that turns me on, and to me that's the important thing. Not big on BJ's but great BBFSCIP everytime and it's really great to get a girl that is so turned on by you dumping a load in her that she comes on your dick as a result. She's trying to hook me in with daily "I love you" line messages but I am not falling for it.
On alternate days I've been exploring the options and as many have stated, it's a real effort to find something that's worthy of a purchase. It's challenging to run your selection firmware as you scan the options coming at you on Soi 6, and the computation mechanism can often miscalculate due to the sheer size of the data dump. Some sessions end in disappointment and regret for me. Soi Pothole and the Boomerang and Bongkot GC's are more leisurely and it's easier to make a better decision, but still takes work. Second the observation that Soi 6 has better overall quality than the GC's. In all of the above I need to resist the urge to go with the least bad option- which is the surest path to a failure to launch. Sometimes it's ok to just walk and save the cum.
The number of options for the punter here is enormous- but to succeed, real effort needs to be invested. I concur with the BMs above who recommend finding a good option and repeating. I'm trying to figure out if the situation on the ground has materially changed, or if I'm just harder to arouse this time around.
RakSopheni
06-03-23, 07:01
The biggest business in Pattaya is providing retired / expat working class Brit and Aussie men with fortysomething ex-bar girl companions, who are still leagues more attractive than the forty stone matrons back in Stoke-on-Trent, or Carlisle despite being the bottom of the pile here in Thailand. Interesting way for a brick-layer from Sheffield to have a third act, for the moment those pensions must still be robust.
Explorer8939
06-03-23, 17:56
Hi Everyone,
I'll be honest I'm pretty new to this whole thing. I was looking to spend a week or so in a place with beautiful women that don't break the bank, so I thought Thailand would be a good option. That being said, the only time I can go is in August, and I thought I'd ask for some advice on where to go and what to do. I've heard mixed things about Pattaya in August; do you guys think it's a better option than Bangkok during that time of year? Also, I'm the type of guy that likes to get one or two high-quality girls for a few days to a week at a time. Also how do you recommend I find said high-quality girls. Oh and any other recommendations that generally come to mind like hotels to stay at would be appreciated. For reference, I'm looking to spend about 3 k (not including flight costs) for the week on hotels, food, girls, drinks, etc.
Thanks!August is an excellent time to visit Pattaya.
Explorer8939
06-03-23, 18:00
The best way to find a knockout sexy lady is to go short time with any lady on Soi 6. As you climb up the stairs to the room, you will see a really sexy lady coming down.
All these posts resonate with my experience here so far this summer. To be honest I've mostly been repeating with my TF girl who is giving me great LT service and checks my boxes. Her body is exactly what I need, most BM would not be impressed with her face, but there is a sexy Lolita quality to her that turns me on, and to me that's the important thing. Not big on BJ's but great BBFSCIP everytime and it's really great to get a girl that is so turned on by you dumping a load in her that she comes on your dick as a result. She's trying to hook me in with daily "I love you" line messages but I am not falling for it.
On alternate days I've been exploring the options and as many have stated, it's a real effort to find something that's worthy of a purchase. It's challenging to run your selection firmware as you scan the options coming at you on Soi 6, and the computation mechanism can often miscalculate due to the sheer size of the data dump. Some sessions end in disappointment and regret for me. Soi Pothole and the Boomerang and Bongkot GC's are more leisurely and it's easier to make a better decision, but still takes work. Second the observation that Soi 6 has better overall quality than the GC's. In all of the above I need to resist the urge to go with the least bad option- which is the surest path to a failure to launch. Sometimes it's ok to just walk and save the cum.
The number of options for the punter here is enormous- but to succeed, real effort needs to be invested. I concur with the BMs above who recommend finding a good option and repeating. I'm trying to figure out if the situation on the ground has materially changed, or if I'm just harder to arouse this time around.In regards to the "finding a good option and repeating" narrative currently trending as it would seem, this is something I will have to consider. Keep in mind, I have never done LT with a gal, not just Pattaya but anywhere else as well. However, based on my experience last year and the comments on here from the last 8 or so months, it looks like LT will be something I'll have to consider. I had a few opportunities at landing some quality LT gals on my last trip, you know the ones that actually kind of like you and don't discuss money and want to lock you into LT travel so they can get a break from the constant hustle of fucking random dudes and you I guess organically settle on a daily price for her company.
My game plan right now is to spend my first 5-7 days in Thailand in BKK prior to heading down to Pattaya with the goal of landing some LT travel prospects to see different parts of Thailand and maybe even travel to other nearby countries. My hope would be to find some civvies who engage in being lady's of the night on the side. I'll have to hone my day game skills (good luck to me with that).
If anyone has tips on how to handle the pricing of LT please do chime in, and I'm referring to multiple days LT, not just an overnight. EP on YT has recommended when it comes to pricing to initiate pricing as if the girl initiates and the price is too high, she won't lower due to needing to save face.
Explorer8939
06-03-23, 18:40
The biggest business in Pattaya is providing retired / expat working class Brit and Aussie men with fortysomething ex-bar girl companions, who are still leagues more attractive than the forty stone matrons back in Stoke-on-Trent, or Carlisle despite being the bottom of the pile here in Thailand. Interesting way for a brick-layer from Sheffield to have a third act, for the moment those pensions must still be robust.40 year old MILFs can be fun. They certainly are hornier than younger girls and know how to make a man happy. But, there are downsides, as well:
Their legs and arms are heavier and thicker than the equivalent younger lady.
At any moment, they can evolve from bargirl to granny. One moment they are a sexy lady, the next they are looking for a wheelchair. And their heads widen very quickly.
Also, if they have adult sons, they are constantly talking to them on the phone. The sons never wean themselves from their mothers, and constantly ask for money. So, your barfine may get all emotional after a conversation with a son.
Chan Chalupa
06-03-23, 20:47
From time to time I stumble on Queen of Pattaya videos. And I genuinely can't tell anymore is she advertising happy ending businesses and her friends. Or am I simply too fucked in head and objectifying poor girls.
For example. Is this a happy ending place?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hfFkhJ-_0skQueen, Roti Lady, the other one,. Numerous other ones with Biggish Boobs all Conglomerates. MeThinks.
They still make Roti Lady knead dough on the Floor.
Chan Chalupa
06-03-23, 20:49
40 year old MILFs can be fun. They certainly are hornier than younger girls and know how to make a man happy. But, there are downsides, as well:
Their legs and arms are heavier and thicker than the equivalent younger lady.
At any moment, they can evolve from bargirl to granny. One moment they are a sexy lady, the next they are looking for a wheelchair. And their heads widen very quickly.
Also, if they have adult sons, they are constantly talking to them on the phone. The sons never wean themselves from their mothers, and constantly ask for money. So, your barfine may get all emotional after a conversation with a son.Another plus is they are extremely cheap.
For me big heavy arms and legs are a deal killer. No offense.
Chan Chalupa
06-03-23, 20:54
Hi Everyone,
I'll be honest I'm pretty new to this whole thing. I was looking to spend a week or so in a place with beautiful women that don't break the bank, so I thought Thailand would be a good option. That being said, the only time I can go is in August, and I thought I'd ask for some advice on where to go and what to do. I've heard mixed things about Pattaya in August; do you guys think it's a better option than Bangkok during that time of year? Also, I'm the type of guy that likes to get one or two high-quality girls for a few days to a week at a time. Also how do you recommend I find said high-quality girls. Oh and any other recommendations that generally come to mind like hotels to stay at would be appreciated. For reference, I'm looking to spend about 3 k (not including flight costs) for the week on hotels, food, girls, drinks, etc.
Thanks!Since you state high quality I think you should double your weekly budget. High quality don't come cheap.
Frankypanky
06-04-23, 01:23
Hi Everyone,
I'll be honest I'm pretty new to this whole thing. I was looking to spend a week or so in a place with beautiful women that don't break the bank, so I thought Thailand would be a good option. That being said, the only time I can go is in August, and I thought I'd ask for some advice on where to go and what to do. I've heard mixed things about Pattaya in August; do you guys think it's a better option than Bangkok during that time of year? Also, I'm the type of guy that likes to get one or two high-quality girls for a few days to a week at a time. Also how do you recommend I find said high-quality girls. Oh and any other recommendations that generally come to mind like hotels to stay at would be appreciated. For reference, I'm looking to spend about 3 k (not including flight costs) for the week on hotels, food, girls, drinks, etc.
Thanks!Any time of the year is fine to go to Pattaya. What I am worried about is your budget. 3 k for the whole week? In Dollars? A high quality girl can be found in several Agogo's in Pattaya. Take it easy and ignore the many beggings for LD. Have a good look around! But be aware that most girls prefer ST which still will cost you like 3000 Baht or 80 US-dollar / euro.
If you are a fine negotiator, you might have a nice lady with you for a few days.
Happy Hunting!
Frankypanky
06-04-23, 01:32
40 year old MILFs can be fun. They certainly are hornier than younger girls and know how to make a man happy. But, there are downsides, as well:
Their legs and arms are heavier and thicker than the equivalent younger lady.
At any moment, they can evolve from bargirl to granny. One moment they are a sexy lady, the next they are looking for a wheelchair. And their heads widen very quickly.
Also, if they have adult sons, they are constantly talking to them on the phone. The sons never wean themselves from their mothers, and constantly ask for money. So, your barfine may get all emotional after a conversation with a son.I hear you. I have a 42 year old On LINE. We know each other since 2018 and in April 2023, she came to my room regulary. Hahaha!
She know what she is doing, and I tend to like chubby women. So I don't mind her not being the 'typical 50 kilogram Thai Tilak'.
But, she normally works in a hotel! So no barlady and even better, DAUGHTERS! So no lazy pos of a son (I have a story or 3 about that matter with other 40-ish women).
Mr Enternational
06-04-23, 03:55
My hope would be to find some civvies who engage in being lady's of the night on the side. If they are normal girls then they are not hookers. If they are ladies of the night "on the side" then they are not normal chicks. Either they fuck for money or they don't. There is not chicks that do not fuck for money, but will all of a sudden do it when I show up. Why does everyone dream of a hooker lite or of a chick that is only a hooker for them? There are plenty of normal chicks that are normal chicks and do not need to paid as a hooker.
Any time of the year is fine to go to Pattaya. What I am worried about is your budget. 3 k for the whole week? In Dollars? A high quality girl can be found in several Agogo's in Pattaya. Take it easy and ignore the many beggings for LD. Have a good look around! But be aware that most girls prefer ST which still will cost you like 3000 Baht or 80 US-dollar / euro.
If you are a fine negotiator, you might have a nice lady with you for a few days.
Happy Hunting!Is ST really 3 k baht now? I was just there in January-February and it was 1500-2000 baht for ST.
Is ST really 3 k baht now? I was just there in January-February and it was 1500-2000 baht for ST.No way! You can still find girls for 1,000 to 1,500 easily enough and I would not go higher. It's not that long ago when 1,000 was standard and it's only the past year that prices have gone up to 1,500.
40 year old MILFs can be fun. They certainly are hornier than younger girls and know how to make a man happy. But, there are downsides, as well:My number 1 favourite in Pattaya is 47 years old and still looks great, she's fit and trim with a body that's barely aged and she is the only one that I regularly repeat with. No downsides like you talk about either. It's just four weeks away to seeing her again assuming she is in town.
Hi Everyone,
I'll be honest I'm pretty new to this whole thing. I was looking to spend a week or so in a place with beautiful women that don't break the bank, so I thought Thailand would be a good option. That being said, the only time I can go is in August, and I thought I'd ask for some advice on where to go and what to do. I've heard mixed things about Pattaya in August; do you guys think it's a better option than Bangkok during that time of year? Also, I'm the type of guy that likes to get one or two high-quality girls for a few days to a week at a time. Also how do you recommend I find said high-quality girls. Oh and any other recommendations that generally come to mind like hotels to stay at would be appreciated. For reference, I'm looking to spend about 3 k (not including flight costs) for the week on hotels, food, girls, drinks, etc.
Thanks!For years I only traveled to Pattaya in late August, early September. Never had any issues with rain or costs. Get a decent hotel then consider what you have left for "play" money. Most punters wouldn't even consider having one girl for more than a couple days, especially on a first visit. It takes time to cultivate a relationship and the girl will want to feel comfortable as well. One option, if you find a girl you like is to barfine her the night you meet her and the next night as well. That gives you playtime for the pool or beach the next day. If you do find a girl you want to spend time alone with, go to Jomtien and get away from the bar scene. A lot of girls in Pattaya will take you to bars where they have friends and they'll drain your wallet in no time! The whole concept of going to Pattaya is to move around the different areas and have fun. Read up on the many posts on here for advice and have fun. I've been to Bangkok and to me, it's just not worth it. Maybe one day, tops. The traffic sucks and everything costs more.
HorseTrader
06-04-23, 15:52
My number 1 favourite in Pattaya is 47 years old and still looks great, she's fit and trim with a body that's barely aged and she is the only one that I regularly repeat with. No downsides like you talk about either. It's just four weeks away to seeing her again assuming she is in town.There are definitely some of that kind in Thailand, but very few in the P4P industry. But when they start to go downhill, they go downhill very quickly, much more sudden than farang women.
RakSopheni
06-04-23, 16:47
If they are normal girls then they are not hookers. If they are ladies of the night "on the side" then they are not normal chicks. Either they fuck for money or they don't. There is not chicks that do not fuck for money, but will all of a sudden do it when I show up. Why does everyone dream of a hooker lite or of a chick that is only a hooker for them? There are plenty of normal chicks that are normal chicks and do not need to paid as a hooker.Dude's will then say "well they're going get paid one way or the other". Some guys need to pretend the girl is not really a WG, and they are not really a monger. You find this a lot on the Seeking thread. These guys prefer the GFE- " she just wants some money for a dress, she's got a real job". I can see where they are coming from but better for all parties to just be real.
MartinFlevo
06-04-23, 17:12
No way! You can still find girls for 1,000 to 1,500 easily enough and I would not go higher. It's not that long ago when 1,000 was standard and it's only the past year that prices have gone up to 1,500.Franky was referring to GOGO-GIRLS. Not the normal ladies in bars / freelance and all. 1000-1500 is standard but in some gogos it can go to 3 K easily for ST.
If they are normal girls then they are not hookers. If they are ladies of the night "on the side" then they are not normal chicks. Either they fuck for money or they don't. There is not chicks that do not fuck for money, but will all of a sudden do it when I show up. Why does everyone dream of a hooker lite or of a chick that is only a hooker for them? There are plenty of normal chicks that are normal chicks and do not need to paid as a hooker."There are plenty of normal chicks that are normal chicks and do not need to paid as a hooker. "
This would be ideal. Save money and have a travel partner of sorts. But it's a time investment, which I'm open to to a degree. Sentiments change though once you're actually in Thailand and you see ass available everywhere and one thinks what's the point of limiting myself to one. And that's the rub of Pattaya in particular, so many damn options, hard to get locked into one.
Dude's will then say "well they're going get paid one way or the other". Some guys need to pretend the girl is not really a WG, and they are not really a monger. You find this a lot on the Seeking thread. These guys prefer the GFE- " she just wants some money for a dress, she's got a real job". I can see where they are coming from but better for all parties to just be real.Don't know if my original comment regarding this was misconstrued. But I'm all business and aware of what male and female relations are about. Your comment describes most western men, basically paying to play in dating and marriage to make themselves feel like they're really not paying for it. Mongering is much healthier and real. It's a business transaction at the end of the day and most mongers want exactly that.
Mr Enternational
06-04-23, 20:13
No way! You can still find girls for 1,000 to 1,500 easily enough and I would not go higher. It's not that long ago when 1,000 was standard and it's only the past year that prices have gone up to 1,500.Messing around on Thai Friendly today and talking to a chick that said she has been gone from Pattaya 3 years and just came back and opened a salon again. My dumb ass does not realize she is a chick that I used to fuck years ago until she reminded me. I said oh yeah. Your mouth used to have my bed soaked. She is going to tell me that prices have gone up and there is no more 1000. I said bullshit. She said short time. I said bullshit. I am grandfathered in 1000 long time as always. Save those new prices for new dudes. She looks better than she did before. Most chicks look worse with age, but there are others that tend to look better.
Mr Enternational
06-04-23, 20:23
"There are plenty of normal chicks that are normal chicks and do not need to paid as a hooker. "
This would be ideal. Save money and have a travel partner of sorts. But it's a time investment, which I'm open to to a degree. Sentiments change though once you're actually in Thailand and you see ass available everywhere and one thinks what's the point of limiting myself to one. And that's the rub of Pattaya in particular, so many damn options, hard to get locked into one.Meet her on Thai Friendly before you come and take your side excursion as soon as you get here. Then when you finish she can go back home and you can go to Pattaya.
I have a chick that lives in Bangkok that I travel with. She loves it. She said without me she would have never gone to places.
Chan Chalupa
06-04-23, 22:40
Is ST really 3 k baht now? I was just there in January-February and it was 1500-2000 baht for ST.When it come to prices Venue needs to be specified.
500 is believable. No offense to those who shop here. Hahaha.
3 000 is believable.
5,000 short time is believable.
Free needs a Believable explanation. LOL. Hahaha.
Don't know if my original comment regarding this was misconstrued. But I'm all business and aware of what male and female relations are about. Your comment describes most western men, basically paying to play in dating and marriage to make themselves feel like they're really not paying for it. Mongering is much healthier and real. It's a business transaction at the end of the day and most mongers want exactly that.I look at it as hiring temp labor. Once a person understands that 95% of personal relationships are transactional in some way, the more free they are. Since I like to hire a lot of temp labor when I am shopping in a country (2-3 X day), Thailand offers great value / availability and exceedingly good price / performance ratios. Greece is one of the only other countries that I have found that compares with the availability / value and price / performance.
Explorer8939
06-05-23, 04:47
Another plus is they are extremely cheap.
For me big heavy arms and legs are a deal killer. No offense.I don't mean that the arms and legs of a lady who is 40+ are big and heavy, I just mean in comparison with a 20 year old lady. It's all relative.
RakSopheni
06-05-23, 05:49
Don't know if my original comment regarding this was misconstrued. But I'm all business and aware of what male and female relations are about. Your comment describes most western men, basically paying to play in dating and marriage to make themselves feel like they're really not paying for it. Mongering is much healthier and real. It's a business transaction at the end of the day and most mongers want exactly that.I'm right there with you CaliGuy33.
First, let's establish the baseline reality of transactionality.
Ehs183 puts it very well:
I look at it as hiring temp labor. Once a person understands that 95% of personal relationships are transactional in some way, the more free they are. Since I like to hire a lot of temp labor when I am shopping in a country (2-3 X day), Thailand offers great value / availability and exceedingly good price / performance ratios. Greece is one of the only other countries that I have found that compares with the availability / value and price / performance.Most conventional romantic relationships are transactional. We all have a "market value" in this sense and assortative mating works well to pair us with compatible mates, I. E. Create fair market transactions. Pair bonding facilitated by oxytocin and other neurobiological processes, combined with cultural programming acts to dull the feeling of this transactionality. The illusion is so complete, that when a man loses his job, becomes ill, or takes some other hit to his market value, he is often shocked to see how quickly he is abandoned. Even friendships are transactional- but obviously the stakes are lower because the goal is not direct reproduction and evolutionary success- although community ties assist in this in a holistic way.
Some pay for play relationships are more transparent in their transactionality than others.
A Beach Road/ Soi 6 hit it and quit ST is the most naked in its pay for play- but even then the tenterhooks can begin to penetrate. I know of a guy who wifed up a Soi 6 girl and tried to move her back to Scotland fully aware of her body count. Not sure how that's working out because she blocked me on social media. Usually, however, strong emotions are not generated in these experiences and the transaction is mostly sexual. The downside here is that a hedonic stasis is difficult to avoid, and constant novelty is required to achieve the same effects. Running to stand still and all that.
Less transparent is the LT Experience. Part of what is being sold is the simulation of having a girlfriend and so the Bar Girl clothes come off and the street clothes come on. Dinner, drinks, massages, strolls through the mall, approximate the feel of a boyfriend / girlfriend experience. The primary thing to notice is that as transparency of transactionality goes down, emotional investment goes up as does the associated ability for the lady to manipulate the man using this button. As I've mentioned, my current repeat LT is trying to hook me in with the "I love you" crap which other men (as evidenced by the beta males on her social media sending her money) have fallen for. Some Western men are so starved for love and attention they will blind themselves to the screaming reality of their own exploitation.
Next to a conventional relationship, the least transparent is dating the semi-pro from Seeking or Thai Friendly. This type of monger appreciates the fact that the girl is much lower volume and feels more comfortable in something that has the feel of a real relationship, with a modicum of baseline chemistry and a bit of genuine attraction. The monger who dates "semi-pro's" is in most danger of being emotionally manipulated, and often cannot square the fact that his girl is seeing other men as well. This type of monger often undergoes extreme emotional swings during his affairs with these ladies, and that's the price he is willing to pay for his preferred experience. Remember that there are no real "semi" pro's, only girls that are lower volume, and in the end you need to square the fact that she is sucking other dudes' dicks one way or the other.
I do not wish to cast judgment on any of these methodologies. The ST monger and the SemiPro monger have found ways of achieving intimacy that work for them and neither should feel more smug or satisfied than the other. The ST monger has the problem of needing to feed the beast with constant novelty, and the Semi-Pro monger musty deal with the extreme emotional swings that come with indulging in his particular illusion.
My point here was to illustrate the relative levels of transactional transparency with each method.
In other news, I walked into Club Excite in the middle of some kind of party last night. Several girls were topless and a punter was up on the stripper pole area getting his dick sucked in full view of the entire crowd. I finally found my provider from last Summer, but she seemed so ran through and just out of it, that it was too depressing to take her for a BJ. When she started last summer she was new and fresh and we had a great time, but I think 1 year in Pattaya has changed her in obvious ways. She remembered me, but her glassy eyed stare had none of the connection of our previous encounters. Also I didn't feel particularly welcome as none of the guys at the party were friends. Moving on, I found a cute girl at Pleasure Lounge on Soi Boomerang who does a great BJ so the night was still a success.
RakSopheni
06-05-23, 05:54
No way! You can still find girls for 1,000 to 1,500 easily enough and I would not go higher. It's not that long ago when 1,000 was standard and it's only the past year that prices have gone up to 1,500.I've gotten as low as 1200ST, and have seen asks as high as 5000ST. Your ability to sort through these market signals is really key here. Be prepared to walk from a shitty deal.
I finally found my provider from last Summer, but she seemed so ran through and just out of it, that it was too depressing to take her for a BJ. When she started last summer she was new and fresh and we had a great time, but I think 1 year in Pattaya has changed her in obvious ways. She remembered me, but her glassy eyed stare had none of the connection of our previous encounters. Also I didn't feel particularly welcome as none of the guys at the party were friends.It seems that one year is an eternity for a girl working in the Pattaya entertainment venues.
My last trip (around 6 months ago), I had a very good interaction with 2 girls working in the same place.
When I went to their place during this trip, one became very popular (apparently she is barfined quickly when she arrives at work) and didn't even give a glance at me so I crossed her out of my list.
The other was still nice but already gained 5 kilos in only 6 months. She was not skinny in the first place and didn't express any concern about that weight gain so I crossed her out also.
The place employed many other girls, but none of them were attractive so I didn't even want to give them a second chance, I never went back there.
Maybe a time span for a girl to still be enjoyable for the next visit is 2 or 3 months at best.
Frankypanky
06-05-23, 14:01
No way! You can still find girls for 1,000 to 1,500 easily enough and I would not go higher. It's not that long ago when 1,000 was standard and it's only the past year that prices have gone up to 1,500.I responded on the call for 'high quality ladies' . You might not find those on BR or any Beerbar (not anymore)! So I referred to AGOGO ladies, who then might be of his liking. Especially girls from PinUp Agogo. IF you want to take a girl from a WS agogo, yes. Expect to pay 3 k for ST. They might ask 4 or even 6 k (!), but that's up to you and your negotiation skills!
Frankypanky
06-05-23, 14:24
Franky was refering to GOGO-GIRLS. Not the normal ladies in bars / freelance and all. 1000-1500 is standard but in some gogos it can go to 3 K easily for ST.Thank you for your understanding and clarifying.
Explorer8939
06-05-23, 18:03
It's very quiet in Pattaya now.
The top tier ladies still have no problem finding customers, but everyone else is mostly just sitting around.
I am resting from my flight today, but will start with the ladies tomorrow, hopefully I can sleep tonight.
Mr Enternational
06-06-23, 04:41
It's very quiet in Pattaya now.
The top tier ladies still have no problem finding customers, but everyone else is mostly just sitting around.
I am resting from my flight today, but will start with the ladies tomorrow, hopefully I can sleep tonight.Quiet? You must be talking about 6 am Tuesday morning, because it definitely has not been quiet the last few days with the holiday. It took some friends 4 hours to get here from Bangkok Friday because of the traffic. It was taking them an hour on the baht bus to get from their hotel Siam at Siam on 2nd Road to the food court on Pattaya Klang. They finally got out on Beach Road and walked the rest of the way.
LT Thai Friendly chick just left. She walked in the door last night giving GFE and could not wait to get the dick inside her this morning when she woke up.
Casanova57
06-06-23, 15:53
My first time in pattaya and to soapy massage. Visited honey2 today. No. 508 gave the best service. Lady around 32, speaks enough English to hold a conversation, big saggy boobs, cooperated in all positions. Gave a good massage in the end.
Damages 2700 baht.
It's very quiet in Pattaya now.
The top tier ladies still have no problem finding customers, but everyone else is mostly just sitting around.
I am resting from my flight today, but will start with the ladies tomorrow, hopefully I can sleep tonight.The traffic on second road is brutal every day. Central festival is packed when I've been at weekends. Couldn't get a seat in Windmill, Pin up or XS on Sunday night!
Chan Chalupa
06-06-23, 18:04
My first time in pattaya and to soapy massage. Visited honey2 today. No. 508 gave the best service. Lady around 32, speaks enough English to hold a conversation, big saggy boobs, cooperated in all positions. Gave a good massage in the end.
Damages 2700 baht.Too much for Saggy Booobs. Hahahahaha. No offense.
I bet the body behind the Sag was big too. Hahahah. No offense.
Recently I took a look and 77.77% were plus sized. Hahahaha. No offense.
I'm just playing bro. Good Job.
Might be lucky to be coming to Pattaya again in first week of July.
Last time got shafted on hotel location. Was a little far out. PEACH convention.
Any suggestions of good 5 stars in and around beach road that are girl friendly? Cost not a big issue. The company pays LOL.
Thanks.
Chan Chalupa
06-06-23, 21:34
Treetown Area.
Bar named Sexy. Stream everyday.
The Star got nose surgery.
Not all that pretty to begin with.
Pre Surgar. Maybe a 5.
Post Surger. Maybe a 3.75.
Look now like Pinocchio. Weird choice of alterations or maybe Dr did a bad job.
Explorer8939
06-06-23, 23:09
Quiet? You must be talking about 6 am Tuesday morning, because it definitely has not been quiet the last few days with the holiday. It took some friends 4 hours to get here from Bangkok Friday because of the traffic. It was taking them an hour on the baht bus to get from their hotel Siam at Siam on 2nd Road to the food court on Pattaya Klang. They finally got out on Beach Road and walked the rest of the way.
LT Thai Friendly chick just left. She walked in the door last night giving GFE and could not wait to get the dick inside her this morning when she woke up.There was a 3 day holiday this weekend, so Pattaya was jammed with visitors from Bangkok. And, the top tier venues like Windmill can be jammed even during Low Season.
But, most ladies are fairly desperate for customers. I went to Ban Chang and barfined a MILF who clearly hadn't been laid for a long time. We came back to Pattaya, and I barfined a second lady, who was herself pretty horny, although professionally so.
Explorer8939
06-07-23, 04:56
One good thing about Low Season is sometimes you get a lady who hasn't been laid in a while (Thai men are expensive in Pattaya), and she is horny all night.
Whereas in High Season, they want you to cum and go quick quick.
RakSopheni
06-07-23, 05:47
The traffic on second road is brutal every day. Central festival is packed when I've been at weekends. Couldn't get a seat in Windmill, Pin up or XS on Sunday night!
Quiet? You must be talking about 6 am Tuesday morning, because it definitely has not been quiet the last few days with the holiday. It took some friends 4 hours to get here from Bangkok Friday because of the traffic. It was taking them an hour on the baht bus to get from their hotel Siam at Siam on 2nd Road to the food court on Pattaya Klang. They finally got out on Beach Road and walked the rest of the way.On the other hand, LK Metro / Buakhao and surrounding areas are pretty quiet after 1 am. The gym I go to feels like a ghost town compared to last year. Second and third tier ladies report abrupt loss of business. The prime time tourist activities like Central and Walking Street are flush and doing well, as are top shelf ladies- the rest in my observation has thinned out. If you are not a Premium Experience Monger, this is just about as good as it can get.
RakSopheni
06-07-23, 05:52
Too much for Saggy Booobs. Hahahahaha. No offense.
I bet the body behind the Sag was big too. Hahahah. No offense.
Recently I took a look and 77.77% were plus sized. Hahahaha. No offense.
I'm just playing bro. Good Job.I propose that for every "no offense" offered by our rascally Chan Chalupa, he should be required to post a photo of a girl he has bagged with price. The price of credibility is putting yourself out there. Right now, I don't see anything like this from you CC. No offense.
Mr Enternational
06-07-23, 06:17
What are you gogo guys going to do? Looks like a totally different business model is coming to fruition. I was talking to a chick on Thai Friendly last night that says she loves working at the gogo. She said she is making money hand over fist there, so much that she does not even have to go with customers. Is it the guys running in buying all the drinks, or something else that is keeping her pockets full?
Met another chick on Thai Friendly that came over. She told me this crazy ass story that I still can't wrap my mind around. During covid she had a friend out of the country. The friend had a tomboy ex that was caring for her newborn baby. Somehow they got put out of where they were staying. The friend asked her to pick them up on Soi Leng Kee. She picked them up and have been taking care of them ever since. She said the tomboy is lazy. The chick that came to see me mom is actually taking care of the friend's older child back in the province. I said how is it your responsibility to take care of this chick's kid? She said she does not know. It is like she pulled some kind of mind control hot potato baby shit on the girl.
Thai people take advantage of Thai people the same as they do with foreigners. This is not my first time hearing a story like this. Some lady told me that a chick I used to mess with just went and left her baby with a lady at the salon an disappeared. Hell I did not even know that she had a kid. These people must have really good hearts because I would have taken these kids (and tomboy) straight to the fire station or orphanage, if I would have even picked them up in the first place.
Chan Chalupa
06-07-23, 13:14
I propose that for every "no offense" offered by our rascally Chan Chalupa, he should be required to post a photo of a girl he has bagged with price. The price of credibility is putting yourself out there. Right now, I don't see anything like this from you CC. No offense.You are Freee to walk in and see what's up. I did and all I saw were big ladies in the Cheap Seats. Aka 2,700 providers. I can't remember exact price as I made a Beeline out the door.
TravelingMan3
06-07-23, 20:04
What are you gogo guys going to do? Looks like a totally different business model is coming to fruition. I was talking to a chick on Thai Friendly last night that says she loves working at the gogo. She said she is making money hand over fist there, so much that she does not even have to go with customers. Is it the guys running in buying all the drinks, or something else that is keeping her pockets full?.Yea gogo bars are crazy I only go in them so I can keep up to date on what's going on in town. Guys are reporting that chick have to get a minimum of five drinks to bar fine so if it's early and you want to take a chick you have to buy her five drinks plus pay 1500 baht bar fine plus at least 3000 baht st at some of the clubs on walking street. Funny thing is some guys have said that the even if the chick has had five drinks already they sometimes make the guy that wants here buy another five that's crazy. Yea I do think most of the better chicks work in the top gogo bars but you can go to the clubs Mystt and Republic and get something just as good for one fourth the price.
SplitPersona
06-07-23, 20:19
Pattaya Shocking Update.
LK Champagne club closed for last two days. No notice outside. Not good.
As hinted in my last post hooters closed for good.
LK friends gogo opens and closes in the same week.
Soi 6 trivia.
Is there a pay phone on Soi 6? Where?
Cheapest lady drink on Soi 6? Double digits? Where?
Chan Chalupa
06-07-23, 21:07
There was a 3 day holiday this weekend, so Pattaya was jammed with visitors from Bangkok. And, the top tier venues like Windmill can be jammed even during Low Season.
But, most ladies are fairly desperate for customers. I went to Ban Chang and barfined a MILF who clearly hadn't been laid for a long time. We came back to Pattaya, and I barfined a second lady, who was herself pretty horny, although professionally so.Anyone else consider Windmill top tier. Weird.
Chan Chalupa
06-07-23, 21:15
What are you gogo guys going to do? Looks like a totally different business model is coming to fruition. I was talking to a chick on Thai Friendly last night that says she loves working at the gogo. She said she is making money hand over fist there, so much that she does not even have to go with customers. Is it the guys running in buying all the drinks, or something else that is keeping her pockets full?
Met another chick on Thai Friendly that came over. She told me this crazy ass story that I still can't wrap my mind around. During covid she had a friend out of the country. The friend had a tomboy ex that was caring for her newborn baby. Somehow they got put out of where they were staying. The friend asked her to pick them up on Soi Leng Kee. She picked them up and have been taking care of them ever since. She said the tomboy is lazy. The chick that came to see me mom is actually taking care of the friend's older child back in the province. I said how is it your responsibility to take care of this chick's kid? She said she does not know. It is like she pulled some kind of mind control hot potato baby shit on the girl..I'm sure there are girls who get 100 drinks a night. Say $2 per drink that's $200 at night. Anything less is not making hand over fist.
1. Where does she work?
2. What is she doing on Thai Friendly?
3. Ask her shirt time price. If she say 1,000 baht she probably a liar.
4. Is she Hot?
6. Is she Dark Skin of Good Colour.
To get context we need all questions answered. LOL. Hahaha.
MartinFlevo
06-07-23, 21:56
What are you gogo guys going to do? Looks like a totally different business model is coming to fruition. The same will happen as in Patong probably.
* Minimum amount of ladydrinks required before a barfine (already happening in XS / Pinup I understood).
* Extremely high prices for ST / LT (no incentive to fuck a guy and Koreans pay 10 K without blinking anyway).
Basically XS / Pinup has "destroyed" the market. They pay high salaries and got the cute chicks. All the other gogobars got mediocre ladies at best. Probably 50% of the gogobars are out of business within 5 years and two kind of Gogo's will be left.
1. Upscale gogos like XS / Pinup.
2. Sleazy once like windmill / KINK.
Keep in mind SOME chicks make good money on drinks only. But a LOT do not get the minimum drinks and switch bars all the time.
So what the ladies do who NOT get the drink quota? Probably go to bars or freelance.
So the 8/9/10 lookers are fine and the 5/6/7 (average looking girls) will have a lot of competition (so these prices might stay reasonable).
Thats my 2 cents.
Explorer8939
06-08-23, 00:00
Anyone else consider Windmill top tier. Weird.Windmill is top tier in terms of numbers of customers. Do you disagree?
Explorer8939
06-08-23, 00:02
Might be lucky to be coming to Pattaya again in first week of July.
Last time got shafted on hotel location. Was a little far out. PEACH convention.
Any suggestions of good 5 stars in and around beach road that are girl friendly? Cost not a big issue. The company pays LOL.
Thanks.If only there were a topic here called "Pattaya Hotels."
Chan Chalupa
06-08-23, 00:10
The plot is being lost.
My point is you are not going to get Hot girls on the Cheap.
People pay ungodly amounts to Ugly Girls all the time. Not my issue here.
On my way to Pattaya had a 17 hour layover in Fukuoka. Had to leave the airport as my departure airport didn't give me the 2nd leg boarding pass.
Actually leaving and getting a hotel for $60 was better than spending 17 hours in an airport.
Fukuoka everything very efficiently run.
Chan Chalupa
06-08-23, 00:13
The same will happen as in Patong probably.
* Minimum amount of ladydrinks required before a barfine (already happening in XS / Pinup I understood).
* Extremely high prices for ST / LT (no incentive to fuck a guy and Koreans pay 10 K without blinking anyway).
Basically XS / Pinup has "destroyed" the market. They pay high salaries and got the cute chicks. All the other gogobars got mediocre ladies at best. Probably 50% of the gogobars are out of business within 5 years and two kind of Gogo's will be left.
1. Upscale gogos like XS / Pinup.
2. Sleazy once like windmill / KINK.
Keep in mind SOME chicks make good money on drinks only. But a LOT do not get the minimum drinks and switch bars all the time..Look at incomes in Korea. I doubt many are paying 10,000. I could be wrong.
Chan Chalupa
06-08-23, 01:50
Windmill is top tier in terms of numbers of customers. Do you disagree?By that metric you got me bro. Hahaha. It does get busy.
Explorer8939
06-08-23, 02:32
Look at incomes in Korea. I doubt many are paying 10,000. I could be wrong.Some ladies report that some Koreans pay big money for Short Time at gogos, but I haven't heard 10,000 for ST.
GentileBear
06-08-23, 06:20
Glad to see so many seekers of the dimes. Or the 9's and 10's in looks. The gogos like Pinup can have them and their 10 K baht customers. Kink and Windmill. Maybe when I was younger and ran with a wingman I would like it but not now. Thank Buddah for the willing ladies in Pattaya. Some on beachroad, some on Soy 6 that are 7's and still tingle my spine for 1,500 or 1,500 plus 300 tip. I would rather have 5 sessions with average looking ladies over a week than one shot with a 9 in looks. I am willing to admit it might be because I am getting older and just want a no no nonsense fuck - and I don't take Instagram DSLR pictures of the ladies anymore.
RakSopheni
06-08-23, 07:01
* Minimum amount of ladydrinks required before a barfine (already happening in XS / Pinup I understood).
* Extremely high prices for ST / LT (no incentive to fuck a guy and Koreans pay 10 K without blinking anyway).
Basically XS / Pinup has "destroyed" the market. They pay high salaries and got the cute chicks. All the other gogobars got mediocre ladies at best. Probably 50% of the gogobars are out of business within 5 years and two kind of Gogo's will be left.
1. Upscale gogos like XS / Pinup.
2. Sleazy once like windmill / KINK.
Keep in mind SOME chicks make good money on drinks only. But a LOT do not get the minimum drinks and switch bars all the time.
So what the ladies do who NOT get the drink quota? Probably go to bars or freelance.
So the 8/9/10 lookers are fine and the 5/6/7 (average looking girls) will have a lot of competition (so these prices might stay reasonable).
Thats my 2 cents.I finally got around to taking a deeper dive into Soi 6 and my takeaway is relevant to your post and the other posts about this drink only crap.
The girls I approach: petite, slim, can have dark skin. Face 6. 5-8. 5. Sexy vibe.
I do not approach girls higher or lower than this in face range, I do not approach tall "model" girls or Chan Chalupa branded fatties and saggies. (Maybe that one time).
I will buy one round of drinks to test the waters. Some girls will feign ignorance that sex is even on offer on Soi 6 and act confused. Usually 3 out of 4 ladies described as above will end up being drink only. I would guess anything 8. 5 above in the face would be almost 100% drink only. Inevitably the girls that will agree to ST will be in the 6. 5-7 face range and ask 1200-1500 +room.
After slogging through 3 rounds or so of "testing the waters" drinks I will generally find a girl to my liking, but this is a lot of money and time wasted. I don't necessarily enjoy talking one more time about where I'm from, how long I'm staying, blah blah.
The girls that I finally do get upstairs often seem strangely inexperienced and expecting vanilla condom only missionary, doggy, cum inside condom sex. This is not how I roll. Sometimes it's hard for me to believe that none of you have initiated these girls into the wonderful world of things like deepthroat and cum in mouth, cum in pussy- but this is what the girls are claiming. It makes me wonder if mongers such as myself are the minority in Pattaya and the main type of punter is content buying rack after rack of shots for random Isaan girls while pretending to enjoy connect 4. I mean did you guys know that we used to have an expectation that these girls would be fucking us? That was the main point of Soi 6.
I see Soi 6 as a backup plan after making the rounds at all the GC's, where for now sex is still the primary draw and reasonably priced. Quality is not stellar, and it does find some work to find an acceptable girl, but there are some hidden gems out there (I'm not going to divulge), and overall the effort expended is less than the Soi 6 gauntlet. These girls suck and fuck everyday and are not expecting boring vanilla type stuff.
If you want sex, ThaiFriendly and GC's are the way to go. Otherwise, I hope you like Connect 4 and competing with Koreans for who can waste the most money on girls that are never going to have sex with you.
MartinFlevo
06-08-23, 07:36
Look at incomes in Korea. I doubt many are paying 10,000. I could be wrong.It's actually part of their culture. Two Korean guys walk into a Gogo? Two or more? That could easily be jackpot because those guys start "competing" who spend the most.
I know several girls from a Gogo who focus on Koreans only for that reason. Why go LT with a farang for 3 K ex barfine if you can have a Korean who is willing to pay 10 k.
Pattaya Shocking Update.
Cheapest lady drink on Soi 6? Double digits? Where?You'll save 50 baht per drink at best.
It seems that Nightwish bars are 150 baht, not the most expensive ones, BabyCool is 170 for example and it can depend on what the girl takes too.
When it comes to prices they do whatever they want (and the girls charge whatever they want to) regardless of the quality of the place, for example Playpen has the shittiest bed in the whole soi I guess, and yet they charge more than others (400 bahts).
I know several girls from a Gogo who focus on Koreans only for that reason. Why go LT with a farang for 3 K ex barfine if you can have a Korean who is willing to pay 10 k.I'm not even sure they take these girls out on ST or LT.
Some of them like to blow the money in the gogo, that's for sure.
One night I was in Palace, 2 Koreans left empty handed with a 8 K bill just next to me. Another night in Iron, some of them were constantly ringing the bell and paying loads of tequila racks for random girls. Another night in Fahrenheit 2 guys were throwing 20 bahts bills and ping pong balls. They pay drinks for almost any girls that come and talk them. That's the primary reason girls are targeting them.
Explorer8939
06-08-23, 12:04
One of my regulars came over for drinks this afternoon and was unusually kissy. Since she has a Thai husband and a full time Farang customer, I knew something was up.
Sure enough, after an hour or so, she asked to borrow 3,000 baht.
I told her the ATM was closed, and soon after, sent her home (because another lady was coming soon).
There was a 3 day holiday this weekend, so Pattaya was jammed with visitors from Bangkok. And, the top tier venues like Windmill can be jammed even during Low Season.
But, most ladies are fairly desperate for customers. I went to Ban Chang and barfined a MILF who clearly hadn't been laid for a long time. We came back to Pattaya, and I barfined a second lady, who was herself pretty horny, although professionally so.I agree that most ladies seem to be desperate for customers. Never ever before have I received so many likes and mails in Thai Friendly in my first 24 hours in town. It was unbelievable. It already started when the bus from Bangkok had barely reached the city limits, around 1 PM. And it went on and on. By midnight I had dozens of them.
Of course more than half of the ladies were too old, too ugly, too heavy, too skinny, too 'photo shopped', or any combination of those, as usual. But there were plenty of nice options in the other half, with girls ranging from 18 to 35 yo (my target group), and with quite a lot of 7's and 8's.
Nevertheless it was a real PITA to make an appointment with one of them. Some of the girls I contacted did not reply anymore after we had exchanged some messages, or they replied after 30 minutes or even more. In the meantime I had already contacted another girl.
Then when I thought I had finally made an appointment with a really nice looking girl, she didn't confirm it.
So I made an appointment with another one, but she didn't show up and didn't even read my messages anymore!
By that time it was 9:30 pm, and I was rather pissed because I prefer to have my sessions in the afternoon, or early evening at the latest.
But I had just received a 'like' from a cute 20 yo, a little spinner who ticked all my boxes. She replied instantly, asked 'only' 1500 (most of the girls were asking 2000), agreed on BBFS right away, and about 20 minutes later she was in my room. Now it is very much hit or miss with these young girls, in my experience, but this one was a definite hit. Sweet girl with a flawless body, a lovely round little butt, no tattoos, and a tight pussy. She saved my day.
Mr Enternational
06-08-23, 12:31
I know several girls from a Gogo who focus on Koreans only for that reason. Why go LT with a farang for 3 K ex barfine if you can have a Korean who is willing to pay 10 k.You speak as if that option presents itself daily in a predictable way. Like the girl shows up for work and knows she will have those 2 choices right in front of her. The girl is not shooing off the 3 K guy at 10 pm because she is sure the 10 K guy will be there at midnight.
Mr Enternational
06-08-23, 13:02
Never ever before have I received so many likes and mails in Thai Friendly in my first 24 hours in town. It was unbelievable. It already started when the bus from Bangkok had barely reached the city limits, around 1 PM. And it went on and on. By midnight I had dozens of them.A buddy of mine signed up the other day and his inbox was rocking. Problem is that he is an older guy and looks like he will never be able to keep up and be efficient with the process. I was showing him how the girl gives her Line then how he has to add her ID to his Line. It was taking him 15 minutes to just do that. So by the time he talks to a couple of chicks and he adds them to Line and they stop responding, he will have wasted an entire day.
It is a numbers game just like anything else. You assume the chicks are there and trying to get money, but even when they say it, they do not show it. Had a chick supposed to come yesterday after I was too busy for the last few days to see her. She said she would come in 1 hour. I said you need to be here in 15 minutes. She said ok. After 30 minutes she still had not left her house. Then when I call her on it she is going to tell me to fuck off as if she was doing me a favor.
If someone is ready to give you some money then you would think hey I am going to get there as quick as I can while the getting is good. But not these chicks. Just goes to show how true Neil Hutchison's books are. You are the last priority after the fleas on her dog's dick, no matter what you are trying to do for her.
Nevertheless it was a real PITA to make an appointment with one of them. Some of the girls I contacted did not reply anymore after we had exchanged some messages, or they replied after 30 minutes or even more. In the meantime I had already contacted another girl.
Then when I thought I had finally made an appointment with a really nice looking girl, she didn't confirm it.
So I made an appointment with another one, but she didn't show up and didn't even read my messages anymore!The shit is like herding cats. Working within the system is pretty much second nature to me after all these years, and I do not hesitate to delete someone as quick as I added them.
P.S. Went and met up with a chick on there the other day who drives Bolt. The next day I asked her how work was going. She only had 2 fares from 2 pm to 10 pm.
Mr Enternational
06-08-23, 13:18
I will buy one round of drinks to test the waters. After slogging through 3 rounds or so of "testing the waters" drinks I will generally find a girl to my liking, but this is a lot of money and time wasted. I mean did you guys know that we used to have an expectation that these girls would be fucking us?And that is why if I plan to fuck then I just walk up and say lets go boom boom. It is point and shoot. No need for questions and no need for drinks.
I don't necessarily enjoy talking one more time about where I'm from, how long I'm staying, blah blah.Went and met up with a Thai Friendly chick the other night that works in a Treetown bar. She was telling me that she gets as tired of asking that same shit as you get tired of hearing it.
The other day driving down Soi Pothole I see a chick I used to fuck from Soi 6. I stop and talk to her and tell her I will send her a message later. When I got home and sent the message she did not respond until hours later. I went up to the bar later to buy her a drink and ask her why she did not respond. She said when she gets to work the boss makes them put the cell phones away. I noticed it must have been the same at the other places on the street. Then I noticed the same in Treetown. Maybe guys in other threads that report their anger about going into bars just to see chicks on their phones need to make a trip to Pattaya.
I agree that most ladies seem to be desperate for customers. Never ever before have I received so many likes and mails in Thai Friendly in my first 24 hours in town. It was unbelievable. It already started when the bus from Bangkok had barely reached the city limits, around 1 PM. And it went on and on. By midnight I had dozens of them.
Of course more than half of the ladies were too old, too ugly, too heavy, too skinny, too 'photo shopped', or any combination of those, as usual. But there were plenty of nice options in the other half, with girls ranging from 18 to 35 yo (my target group), and with quite a lot of 7's and 8's.
Sweet girl with a flawless body, a lovely round little butt, no tattoos, and a tight pussy. She saved my day.If you take TF likes and messages as a sign of girls being desperate you are going to keep on having bad surprises.
Unless you go for junkies and uglies or oldies, it's hard to find a decent looking girl being desperate in Pattaya at the moment.
The girls that I finally do get upstairs often seem strangely inexperienced and expecting vanilla condom only missionary, doggy, cum inside condom sex. This is not how I roll. Sometimes it's hard for me to believe that none of you have initiated these girls into the wonderful world of things like deepthroat and cum in mouth, cum in pussy- but this is what the girls are claiming. It makes me wonder if mongers such as myself are the minority in Pattaya and the main type of punter is content buying rack after rack of shots for random Isaan girls while pretending to enjoy connect 4. I mean did you guys know that we used to have an expectation that these girls would be fucking us? That was the main point of Soi 6.There is a constant turn-over in that soi. Girls come and go pretty quickly for diverse reasons it seems. Nightwish seems to be the most powerfull force to bring new girls in, their touts are doing a good job of attracting new talent over facebook or instagram. But it seems that many of them are thrown in without a proper understanding of what they have to do to succeed. Inevitably a lot of them quit after a few weeks or months because they didn't expect it to be that hard (they cannot succeed in making their drink quotas, they are not able to learn English, don't like to have sex with random guys or whatever else reasons). That's why so many of them are inexperienced or "drink only". The ones able to make it are the cuties that relate only on drinks, and the average looking ones who learned to be patient and learned how to sip drinks from customers from time to time and probably get a few regulars, plus the freelancers who rely almost exclusively on ST and LT (maybe you need to meet some of these to get a better sex experience).
Otherwise, I hope you like Connect 4 and competing with Koreans for who can waste the most money on girls that are never going to have sex with you.After one drink (or even before as stated by other members) we should be able to know if the girl is going to go upstairs or not, and cut our losses early if it's not the case.
RakSopheni
06-08-23, 15:30
And that is why if I plan to fuck then I just walk up and say lets go boom boom. It is point and shoot. No need for questions .This might be the way to go. I mean it's how it works in a GC. Anyone else try this before?
Chan Chalupa
06-08-23, 16:34
This might be the way to go. I mean it's how it works in a GC. Anyone else try this before?Yes.
I think all this Hate against Koreans spending Gobs of money in WS agogos is false rage.
We're any of you Barfining in these places Pre. Covid?
Nothing's changed Outrageous Barfine s kept me from going all in then and it's still same same for me now.
Let it go Fellas.
Jimmy Boy 99
06-08-23, 16:41
This might be the way to go. I mean it's how it works in a GC. Anyone else try this before?I never buy a lady drink. I just discuss what I want in the session and the cost and go to the room or leave.
Chan Chalupa
06-08-23, 16:42
One of my regulars came over for drinks this afternoon and was unusually kissy. Since she has a Thai husband and a full time Farang customer, I knew something was up.
Sure enough, after an hour or so, she asked to borrow 3,000 baht.
I told her the ATM was closed, and soon after, sent her home (because another lady was coming soon).Did you pay her 2,000. Then she ask to Borrow 3 k?
Nevertheless it was a real PITA to make an appointment with one of them. Some of the girls I contacted did not reply anymore after we had exchanged some messages, or they replied after 30 minutes or even more. In the meantime I had already contacted another girl.Exactly the reason I deleted my account on this app. Most of these girls are full of shit and it's a pain in the ass to find a few doables anyway, really not worth the effort for a 1 month (or less) trip.
I finally got around to taking a deeper dive into Soi 6 and my takeaway is relevant to posts about this drink only crap. . . . It makes me wonder if the main type of punter is content buying rack after rack of shots for random Isaan girls while pretending to enjoy Connect Four. I mean did you guys know that we used to have an expectation that these girls would be fucking us? That was the main point of Soi 6. . . . I hope you like Connect 4 and competing with Koreans for who can waste the most money on girls that are never going to have sex with you.As usual, Mr. Sopheni's analysis is both trenchant and well written. Thanks to him for taking the time to post.
I think we can all agree the girls and the bars are very clever about doing the absolute minimum that they can get away with, while still making enough money to get by. In theory the customers control this. Back In The Day, the clientele was homogeneous in their demographics and demands. (This was especially true of the ex-pats.) They knew what they wanted, they knew the going rate and they would brook no sass. The folks on Soi Six might have been able to get over every now and then at the margin. (Usually when a drunk guy settled for an experience he didn't really want, or a girl that fell short of his spec.) But by and large, the girls and the bar owners knew the score and met the demands of their regular clientele.
I realize that this isn't an original thought, but I think the internet spoiled the fun. The number of guys who knew about Soi Six increased exponentially, and some fraction of them found their way to the bars in person. These customers were a very diverse lot. Lots of them didn't know how Soi Six was "supposed" to work. Lots of them knew, but didn't care. Eventually the girls and the bar owners discovered there were customers who were willing to pay FAR above the going rate for sex. (And as Mr. Sopheni laments, willing to settle for the sexual equivalent of a "short pour.") There were also new customers who were happy to pay Soi Six prices for sex-adjacent services. And there were even guys who were happy to just sit and drink with their mates. Perhaps the Soi Six vibe was enough entertainment for them. Perhaps some of them were part of that younger generation of guys who seem less interested in sex. Who knows?
It really doesn't matter. Because the girls and the bar owners are a clever adversary. They work on Soi Six every single day. As the naughty boys come and go, they have become adept at sussing out how to extract maximum money for minimum sex. So long as the demographics of the patrons continues to expand, so long as their demands for sex continue to drop, the folks who run Soi Six and who work there are going to charge more money for less naughty.
Bunky
Chan Chalupa
06-08-23, 23:25
Shocking just shocking!
Red Planet is offering rooms at $15 on Expedia.
Walking distance to World Famous Soy 6.
Explorer8939
06-09-23, 00:03
Did you pay her 2,000. Then she ask to Borrow 3 k?She asked for the 3,000 before I paid her the usual 2,000 baht.
I would probably have lent her the 3,000 if she hadn't led up to it by being all kissy face.
After a 12 hour flight you see this. I like Pattaya but I don't know if I want to go through this.
If you take TF likes and messages as a sign of girls being desperate you are going to keep on having bad surprises.
Unless you go for junkies and uglies or oldies, it's hard to find a decent looking girl being desperate in Pattaya at the moment.I totally disagree. Compared to September and June last year, when I was here a couple of weeks as well, I have received (and still receive), way more likes and messages. And not just from 'junkies and uglies or oldies' as you put it, but also from attractive young girls. The percentage of the latter contacting me, is usually much lower. Normally I have to make the first move, and be happy if 10 to 20 percent replies, but now I have a lot of choice.
If you cannot find a decent looking girl in Pattaya right now, you must be chasing only 8's and up.
After a 12 hour flight you see this. I like Pattaya but I don't know if I want to go through this.I guess it all depends on the time and day. I arrived here last Sunday morning, and went through immigration in just 5 minutes.
Chan Chalupa
06-09-23, 03:27
I guess it all depends on the time and day. I arrived here last Sunday morning, and went through immigration in just 5 minutes.Arrived 255 pm Yesterday Thursday. I got thru immigration in 4 minutes.
Thai Air from fukuoka was 20% occupied.
As usual, Mr. Sopheni's analysis is both trenchant and well written. Thanks to him for taking the time to post.
I think we can all agree the girls and the bars are very clever about doing the absolute minimum that they can get away with, while still making enough money to get by. In theory the customers control this. Back In The Day, the clientele was homogeneous in their demographics and demands. (This was especially true of the ex-pats.) They knew what they wanted, they knew the going rate and they would brook no sass. The folks on Soi Six might have been able to get over every now and then at the margin. (Usually when a drunk guy settled for an experience he didn't really want, or a girl that fell short of his spec.) But by and large, the girls and the bar owners knew the score and met the demands of their regular clientele.
I realize that this isn't an original thought, but I think the internet spoiled the fun. The number of guys who knew about Soi Six increased exponentially, and some fraction of them found their way to the bars in person. These customers were a very diverse lot. Lots of them didn't know how Soi Six was "supposed" to work. Lots of them knew, but didn't care. Eventually the girls and the bar owners discovered there were customers who were willing to pay FAR above the going rate for sex. (And as Mr. Sopheni laments, willing to settle for the sexual equivalent of a "short pour.") There were also new customers who were happy to pay Soi Six prices for sex-adjacent services. And there were even guys who were happy to just sit and drink with their mates. Perhaps the Soi Six vibe was enough entertainment for them. Perhaps some of them were part of that younger generation of guys who seem less interested in sex. Who knows?
It really doesn't matter. Because the girls and the bar owners are a clever adversary. They work on Soi Six every single day. As the naughty boys come and go, they have become adept at sussing out how to extract maximum money for minimum sex. So long as the demographics of the patrons continues to expand, so long as their demands for sex continue to drop, the folks who run Soi Six and who work there are going to charge more money for less naughty.
BunkyEloquently stated. That you sir!
I'm not even sure they take these girls out on ST or LT.
Some of them like to blow the money in the gogo, that's for sure.
One night I was in Palace, 2 Koreans left empty handed with a 8 K bill just next to me. Another night in Iron, some of them were constantly ringing the bell and paying loads of tequila racks for random girls. Another night in Fahrenheit 2 guys were throwing 20 bahts bills and ping pong balls. They pay drinks for almost any girls that come and talk them. That's the primary reason girls are targeting them.It kinda sounds like a group of guys having fun. You know, like regular people, because everybody's not perverts that have to pay for their next fuck. Just saying. Peace bro.
RakSopheni
06-09-23, 06:16
I never buy a lady drink. I just discuss what I want in the session and the cost and go to the room or leave.I might give this a try (I've definitely done this with a few that approach on the street). The downside is that you miss some of the girls that are a bit more reserved who need a bit more coaxing. But the whole rigamarole of buying the "get to know her" drink is really draining when repeated multiple times a night. Benefits, cost.
Explorer8939
06-09-23, 06:28
Every day, I get worthless messages on social media from ladies. Just routine messages that they probably send to all their Farang friends every day.
I am trying to think of a polite response to tell them to please stop.
RakSopheni
06-09-23, 06:28
Yes.
I think all this Hate against Koreans spending Gobs of money in WS agogos is false rage.
We're any of you Barfining in these places Pre. Covid?
Nothing's changed Outrageous Barfine s kept me from going all in then and it's still same same for me now.
Let it go Fellas.I partially agree with this (at least with regards to Soi 6- I really don't have an opinion about GoGos because I never go go to them). The hate is a bit overblown.
Koreans tend to go places en masse and rarely do you see the lone pair walking around in a Farang area (Buakhao) - or god forbid all by himself. They are uncomfortable in areas they are not the majority. They have completely colonized Angeles City in the Philippines to the point where its finished as a scene, and now a few top tier GoGos in Pattaya are hanging on the brink. They have a small beachhead in Soi 6 where the few brave Koreans who can operate without backup wander- but I don't think they are completely throwing the market there all by themselves.
As Mr Bunky points out, the internet has a big part of changing things, and Soi 6 is now advertised on Facebook, twitter, and instagram where the primary activity is buying racks of shots for scantily clad girls. Full stop. Younger mongers seem to have jumped at this concept for whatever reason. It might be due to lower testosterone levels in the Millenials, or some sort of residual Woke social programming where sex with women is seen as exploitative- but for whatever reason it seems that most men of all ethnicities are going to Soi 6 to buy expensive drinks and have shitty conversations in google translate with or without the Koreans causing all of this.
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RakSopheni
06-09-23, 06:34
After one drink (or even before as stated by other members) we should be able to know if the girl is going to go upstairs or not, and cut our losses early if it's not the case.I'm gathering from your posts that Soi 6 is your go-to place when you are in town and you've had good success there. Care to give us a walk through of your methodology with a little bit more detail?
Gianni Versace
06-09-23, 06:45
Gents has anyone ever stayed at Aya Boutique Hotel or Centara Azure Hotel? Just wanted to know if they are guest friendly. TIA.
On Soi 6 only one girl in five accepts to make eye contact with me. This is frustrating but given the quantity of girls, I still have no problem finding new girls. I never pay drinks but of late I have accepted to pay some girls 1,500. In the past, I never paid more than 1000 to the girl.
Explorer8939
06-09-23, 08:26
Gents has anyone ever stayed at Aya Boutique Hotel or Centara Azure Hotel? Just wanted to know if they are guest friendly. TIA.If only there was a topic called "Pattaya Hotels". I am sure you would find an answer there.
I totally disagree. Compared to September and June last year, when I was here a couple of weeks as well, I have received (and still receive), way more likes and messages. And not just from 'junkies and uglies or oldies' as you put it, but also from attractive young girls. The percentage of the latter contacting me, is usually much lower. Normally I have to make the first move, and be happy if 10 to 20 percent replies, but now I have a lot of choice.You said it yourself in your first post.
You received dozens of likes and messages from different girls, yet you considered yourself lucky when one came by to your room. They were desperate but at the same time didn't even want to answer your messages, that makes no sense. We would think that a desperate girl would instantly make her way to your place at the moment you tell her you want her to come over. If they were that desperate they would do anything possible to get you as a new customer, which obviously they didn't put any effort in by reading your first post.
If you cannot find a decent looking girl in Pattaya right now, you must be chasing only 8's and up.Finding one decent looking girl in Pattaya (or even many) is one thing, but finding her desperate is another story. The fact that she sells her body in Pattaya doesn't make her desperate, words have meaning you know.
Frankypanky
06-09-23, 10:36
When I got home and sent the message she did not respond until hours later. I went up to the bar later to buy her a drink and ask her why she did not respond. She said when she gets to work the boss makes them put the cell phones away. I noticed it must have been the same at the other places on the street. Then I noticed the same in Treetown. Maybe guys in other threads that report their anger about going into bars just to see chicks on their phones need to make a trip to Pattaya.Well said. That's a thing to think about.
But. (Always the but) is a two-thing then? As you're horny at THAT moment, and not one or two hours later.
I also ditched non-responisive ladies from TF. Especially if they started to act 'annoyed' bc I booked another lady or just lost interest.
I totally disagree. Compared to September and June last year, when I was here a couple of weeks as well, I have received (and still receive), way more likes and messages. And not just from 'junkies and uglies or oldies' as you put it, but also from attractive young girls. The percentage of the latter contacting me, is usually much lower. Normally I have to make the first move, and be happy if 10 to 20 percent replies, but now I have a lot of choice..This is music to my ears, glad to hear reports like this. Seems like the opinions on the current state of Pattaya are heavily split. Looking forward to getting back there for the first time since last October and formulating my own position on this debate. I get the sense that things have improved since last year in terms of the number of available girls and the quality as long as you're not expecting endless dime pieces.
you've had good success there.Not really, I left a few times empty handed or with a so-so experience.
It's just that other places were a no go for me (talent too poor or prices too high), so I ended up going in that street over and over to meet girls for fuck.
Care to give us a walk through of your methodology with a little bit more detail?My MO is pretty simple and not sophisticated at all but the results are very hit and miss.
I just walk up and down the soi a few times and try to make a connection with a girl that I find attractive enough to spend some time with her downstairs (she's got to put at least a minimum of interest in me, like eye contact, a smile, or a gesture to attract my attention). Each time I've walked directly to a girl without her showing a bit of interest resulted in a failure (she asked too much or didn't put any effort in the process).
I don't mind losing the price of a drink on her if I found out she is not worth it and I try to gather all the relevant information during that time (age, how long she's been doing this job, how long in that bar, how many babies and so on). If I find out some answers that I don't like (or if I see some things that I don't like on her body or attitude) I cut it short, same goes if she sips her drink too quick and asks for another one, or if she just shows no interest while we are sitting together, I just tell her I'm going to finish my drink and move on.
If the girl is fun I can pay her one more drink for our first encounter, I always try to be handy on her, see if she is shy, get at least some kisses but most of the time I don't discuss service (except if she is open-minded but most of the time, the girls that I target are inexperienced), I focus more on her price tag.
If the session was good upstairs I'll keep her as a repeat but I also repeated some average sessions with girls I had a good connection with just because I couldn't find anything else at that time.
Which leads to my biggest concern, going back to that soi over and over make things more complicated to find new talent, as the girls that I've met earlier express some willingness to repeat a session with me and I don't really want to reject a girl that I've spent a good time with a few days or weeks earlier so I try to avoid them rather than rejecting them.
Overall it's very hit and miss, had some very good encounters, some average ones and a few not worth the effort.
Any people would want to share their MO in that soi? I'm curious and not satisfied with the results during this trip, and probably will make a few adjustments for my next trip there.
HorseTrader
06-09-23, 16:05
After one drink (or even before as stated by other members) we should be able to know if the girl is going to go upstairs or not, and cut our losses early if it's not the case.
I'm gathering from your posts that Soi 6 is your go-to place when you are in town and you've had good success there. Care to give us a walk through of your methodology with a little bit more detail?I generally ask the girl "do you do bar fines?" before I ever buy her a drink. I've had a lot of "no" answers that have saved me much time and money.
In certain areas the bars are very close to one another and the girls wander from bar to bar to talk to their friends. In these areas (not Soi 6 where the girls mostly stay at their own bar) I can sometimes meet a girl between bars and chat enough to decide if I want to do a bar fine. Sometimes I'll cut a ST deal before I even know what bar she is associated with, though we do need to go to her bar and pay the bar fine.
Seldom do I buy a girl more than one drink. This system works for me because I like to talk to her for a few minutes before committing to ST and I don't drink much alcohol (90% of the time I order water).
Go to thailand, visit soi 6 or wherever and post reports. People should post more of the kind of reports they want to read rather than expect others to. It's the same with people who complain about others paying to much. Why should anyone get to tell other posters how to spend their money or report their experiences.
If you want to find a pretty girl on soi 6, walk down the street looking for one, pay her and find out how it goes. That's the fun of pattaya, finding a fun girl to fuck, not following someone else's directions.
100% true. I visited 2 x pre covid and I had to sift through tons of pages to find anything meaningful. Planning for a 3rd visit and still the same bickering back and forth. Sigh! Even after spending hours you cannot find anything meaningful or a valuable FR on any particular bar in Soi6 for example. The truly valuable FRs are usually from guys who visit Pattaya every few years on a week long break or something like that. And they are drowned out by all this bull crap.
Ass Addict
06-09-23, 20:20
Planning for a 3rd visit and still the same bickering back and forth. Sigh! Even after spending hours you cannot find anything meaningful or a valuable FR on any particular bar in Soi6 for example. The truly valuable FRs are usually from guys who visit Pattaya every few years on a week long break or something like that. And they are drowned out by all this bull crap.You like to be fed by other people? I've got one for you, girl named "Som", dark skin, beautiful face (looks a bit like an Indian girl), very smooth skin, some tattoos, a bit of meat all over her body, very nice bubble butt and puts a very good attitude in her work. She likes guys like you, Indians and Middle Easterns, easy customers she says. You need to know where she works? The massage place right next to Cheap Charlie. Best price you can get her? 1500 baht all in if you're a good negociator.
Looking forward to your report when you'll meet her during your next trip in 3 years.
Chan Chalupa
06-09-23, 23:25
100% true. I visited 2 x pre covid and I had to sift through tons of pages to find anything meaningful. Planning for a 3rd visit and still the same bickering back and forth. Sigh! Even after spending hours you cannot find anything meaningful or a valuable FR on any particular bar in Soi6 for example. The truly valuable FRs are usually from guys who visit Pattaya every few years on a week long break or something like that. And they are drowned out by all this bull crap.The problem with the reviews you cited. They are so far off from what the Regular s experience. One guy every night seems to find Randoms in Treetown for 1,000 baht and claims they are Kinda Hot. Anyone knows the area knows the girls in the area are downright Frigid as far as looks go.
Yes,. Looks do matter to a lot of us.
Explorer8939
06-10-23, 00:18
I generally ask the girl "do you do bar fines?" before I ever buy her a drink. I've had a lot of "no" answers that have saved me much time and money.
In certain areas the bars are very close to one another and the girls wander from bar to bar to talk to their friends. In these areas (not Soi 6 where the girls mostly stay at their own bar) I can sometimes meet a girl between bars and chat enough to decide if I want to do a bar fine. Sometimes I'll cut a ST deal before I even know what bar she is associated with, though we do need to go to her bar and pay the bar fine.
Seldom do I buy a girl more than one drink. This system works for me because I like to talk to her for a few minutes before committing to ST and I don't drink much alcohol (90% of the time I order water).What do you do after you finish your Short Time with the bargirl?
You said it yourself in your first post.
You received dozens of likes and messages from different girls, yet you considered yourself lucky when one came by to your room. They were desperate but at the same time didn't even want to answer your messages, that makes no sense. We would think that a desperate girl would instantly make her way to your place at the moment you tell her you want her to come over. If they were that desperate they would do anything possible to get you as a new customer, which obviously they didn't put any effort in by reading your first post.
Finding one decent looking girl in Pattaya (or even many) is one thing, but finding her desperate is another story. The fact that she sells her body in Pattaya doesn't make her desperate, words have meaning you know.This is getting over analysed, there may be many other reasons why. They may not be freelancers, they usually don't understand much English so you need to keep it very simple, they get a lot of timewasters, and then there are the creeps. Those are just a few and there's plenty more.
I keep it simple using TF, I send a message "In Pattaya now, ST? I also get premium while I am there so it's at the top of the stack of messages that they get, they know that I am not wasting their time sending messages from abroad and they know what I want.
RakSopheni
06-10-23, 07:07
My MO is pretty simple and not sophisticated at all but the results are very hit and miss.
Thanks for sharing. My technique is pretty similar to yours and also very hit and miss.
I just walk up and down the soi a few times and try to make a connection with a girl that I find attractive enough to spend some time with her downstairs (she's got to put at least a minimum of interest in me, like eye contact, a smile, or a gesture to attract my attention). Each time I've walked directly to a girl without her showing a bit of interest resulted in a failure.
This is a really important point. As you have said in previous posts, there is a lot of turnover and many girls are just trying out this job for the first time, are just counting the days until their contract is over and will 100% be dead fish. Other girls find that it's work that they can deal with and are naturals. Most of the attention you receive will be with girls you don't want to take, however, so the challenge is walking calmly through the whole gauntlet trying to weigh all the options simultaneously.
If the girl is fun I can pay her one more drink for our first encounter, I always try to be handy on her, see if she is shy, get at least some kisses but most of the time I don't discuss service (except if she is open-minded but most of the time, the girls that I target are inexperienced), I focus more on her price tag.
I do discuss service usually. If she will not do BBFS, I make sure she is game for a BJ and try to get a reduced price for just this. Most of the attractive girls on Soi 6 are inexperienced.
Overall it's very hit and miss, had some very good encounters, some average ones and a few not worth the effort.
Ditto this. Soi 6 is a venue where monger technique is key for getting good results so love to hear more from the board.
RakSopheni
06-10-23, 07:11
I generally ask the girl "do you do bar fines?" before I ever buy her a drink. I've had a lot of "no" answers that have saved me much time and money.
In certain areas the bars are very close to one another and the girls wander from bar to bar to talk to their friends. In these areas (not Soi 6 where the girls mostly stay at their own bar) I can sometimes meet a girl between bars and chat enough to decide if I want to do a bar fine. Sometimes I'll cut a ST deal before I even know what bar she is associated with, though we do need to go to her bar and pay the bar fine.
Seldom do I buy a girl more than one drink. This system works for me because I like to talk to her for a few minutes before committing to ST and I don't drink much alcohol (90% of the time I order water).So you prefer to take them to your place rather than on site?
HorseTrader
06-10-23, 07:46
So you prefer to take them to your place rather than on site?Absolutely! Of course, some places the girls are constrained to stay on site. Other cases my hotel is too far from wherever I meet her.
I generally ask the girl "do you do bar fines?" before I ever buy her a drink. I've had a lot of "no" answers that have saved me much time and money.Obviously it seems to be the best way to do it but strangely I never met any girl telling me she doesn't do ST upstairs in soi6 (I never barfine here, I just use the ST rooms).
The two reasons I couldn't go upstairs with her were when she asked a higher price than I was expecting to pay (they never quoted outrageous price, 2 K was the most they asked, so I don't think it was a way to reject me) and when she was uninterested downstairs which is a good indication that she will be even worse upstairs.
Will be in Pattaya for one night and thought of saving the trouble of going to a bar and just look for a freelancer. I will not have much time to choose, so wanted to know in terms of quality (excuse term), which would be the best place to start looking walking street or beach road or Soi buakhao.
I head beach street the quality has gone bad and walking street can get more success with good looking freelancers, however I'm not sure, request others to comment.
Thanks.
I do discuss service usually. If she will not do BBFS, I make sure she is game for a BJ and try to get a reduced price for just this. Most of the attractive girls on Soi 6 are inexperienced.I thought most would refuse BBFS, they always go for the condom in the room. I guess you don't find many who accepts it directly?
PopUpMenu123
06-10-23, 16:52
First time mongering in Pattaya. It's my first time visiting Thailand. Is there any guides on here for first time mongering? Like do's and don'ts? What is considered a normal price? What prices are rip-offs? Where are the go to's and avoid places?
GentileBear
06-10-23, 23:44
First time mongering in Pattaya. It's my first time visiting Thailand. Is there any guides on here for first time mongering? Like do's and don'ts? What is considered a normal price? What prices are rip-offs? Where are the go to's and avoid places?RTFF. This means to READ the Freekin' Forums.
MongerHunger
06-11-23, 05:44
Will be in Pattaya for one night and thought of saving the trouble of going to a bar and just look for a freelancer. I will not have much time to choose, so wanted to know in terms of quality (excuse term), which would be the best place to start looking walking street or beach road or Soi buakhao.
I head beach street the quality has gone bad and walking street can get more success with good looking freelancers, however I'm not sure, request others to comment.
Thanks.Just go to those places and see for yourself and make your own decisions on what you like and don't like or do you gave trouble walking and getting around?
MongerHunger
06-11-23, 05:48
Will be in Pattaya for one night and thought of saving the trouble of going to a bar and just look for a freelancer. I will not have much time to choose, so wanted to know in terms of quality (excuse term), which would be the best place to start looking walking street or beach road or Soi buakhao.
I head beach street the quality has gone bad and walking street can get more success with good looking freelancers, however I'm not sure, request others to comment.
Thanks.Also, I hit Beach Road from Walking Street on down about 3 weeks ago. There's enough there to keep you busy.
RakSopheni
06-11-23, 05:55
I thought most would refuse BBFS, they always go for the condom in the room. I guess you don't find many who accepts it directly?Correct. Last summer I had better luck- I wasn't mentioning it upfront at that time. BBFS is most readily available from Thai Friendly freelancers.
That's crazy. Apparently it is supposed to be an off season:
After a 12 hour flight you see this. I like Pattaya but I don't know if I want to go through this.
Also, I hit Beach Road from Walking Street on down about 3 weeks ago. There's enough there to keep you busy.I didn't take any Beach Rd. FLers when I was there last year but based on the YT videos I see, there's decent looking women lined up on the beach. You'll never have to pay more than 1 k baht for one of them and many will go with you for 700-800 baht. There will always be value in Pattaya if you are willing to put in the time to find it.
As cheap as Soi 6 is (average about 1,500 baht total for ST / room), you can save 500-800 baht hitting up Beach Road instead.
Just go to those places and see for yourself and make your own decisions on what you like and don't like or do you gave trouble walking and getting around?I have 4-5 hrs around 2 PM - 7 PM and want to avoid gogo, beach road seems apt, but I heard walking street has better women post 7?, Just wanted to plan this out.
I didn't take any Beach Rd. FLers when I was there last year but based on the YT videos I see, there's decent looking women lined up on the beach. You'll never have to pay more than 1 k baht for one of them and many will go with you for 700-800 baht. There will always be value in Pattaya if you are willing to put in the time to find it.
As cheap as Soi 6 is (average about 1,500 baht total for ST / room), you can save 500-800 baht hitting up Beach Road instead.YT does show a good assortment of FLs on Beach Road, but I prefer bar girls who will sit and drink with you and you can feel if there is a vibe to take it further. I'd also venture to say that many of the Beach Road "girls", aren't what they appear to be! LOL.
Correct. Last summer I had better luck- I wasn't mentioning it upfront at that time. BBFS is most readily available from Thai Friendly freelancers.Yes, when I was there last year, I got it regularly from TF girls without even really asking. If I gave the girl oral sex, she almost always just hopped on me with no condom. Some would just pull out the condom when it was time to fuck, and some I didn't have the interest to do without a condom. But the girls I wanted to do BB, almost all did it for free with no more than a polite request or often no request at all. I think the girls may have been a bit desperate because of the lack of tourists.
Chan Chalupa
06-12-23, 01:01
Heading for Pattaya in a few hours.
1st order of Business. One week at Red Planet for $125 all in. I actually prefer a Hotel closer to Walk Street but will take this,. Price Matters.
I didn't take any Beach Rd. FLers when I was there last year but based on the YT videos I see, there's decent looking women lined up on the beach. I don't know when those videos were shot, but the quality on Beach Road is horrendous since I came here last week. I have hardly seen a doable girl there.
Chan Chalupa
06-12-23, 03:13
I don't know when those videos were shot, but the quality on Beach Road is horrendous since I came here last week. I have hardly seen a doable girl there.I've never been asked by a beach road girl if I want to partake in Service s provided.
In not Indians or Middle Eastern.
Connect the Dots.
No Offense. Hahaha.
YT does show a good assortment of FLs on Beach Road, but I prefer bar girls who will sit and drink with you and you can feel if there is a vibe to take it further. I'd also venture to say that many of the Beach Road "girls", aren't what they appear to be! LOL.You can chat them up on the spot and get a little vibe at least.
But yeah it could just be that the footage is shot at night and so they look better than they actually look in that dim lighting LOL. I call it the elevator lighting, elevators are usually dimly lit making everyone look better than they actually do.
I've never been asked by a beach road girl if I want to partake in Service s provided.
In not Indians or Middle Eastern.
Connect the Dots.
No Offense. Hahaha.Pretty much all indians and middle easterners in the YT Beach Road videos. The Indians love a good deal hehe.
PopUpMenu123
06-12-23, 04:55
How do I find the ladies who have bigger wider hips and rear ends? Do such things exist Bangkok or pattaya? I heard those P. A. A. G Kim kardashian, nicki manaj, are extremely rare if none.
RakSopheni
06-12-23, 05:46
Yes, when I was there last year, I got it regularly from TF girls without even really asking. If I gave the girl oral sex, she almost always just hopped on me with no condom. Some would just pull out the condom when it was time to fuck, and some I didn't have the interest to do without a condom. But the girls I wanted to do BB, almost all did it for free with no more than a polite request or often no request at all. I think the girls may have been a bit desperate because of the lack of tourists.My rule with TF if it's 1500 I will not specify, but more than that I will make sure BBFS.
Lately TF girls have been much more flakey.
RakSopheni
06-12-23, 05:50
I don't know when those videos were shot, but the quality on Beach Road is horrendous since I came here last week. I have hardly seen a doable girl there.The quality really seems to fluctuate. I notice the best quality on weekends and holidays. Keep in mind many Beach Road girls will look ok outside with clothes on but will have major baby damage once undressed. I have have yet to pull the trigger on them this year.
Everyone says there are freelancers in Treetown but unless I'm a complete idiot, in 3 years I really have only seen a handful of girls leering at me from some tables. I'm not really sure where they are supposedly congregating unless that's it.
Explorer8939
06-12-23, 11:52
After a 12 hour flight you see this. I like Pattaya but I don't know if I want to go through this.Ocasionally, an Emirates A380 will disgorge 500 passengers at once. If you get stuck behind them, don't forget that there is a second Arrivals hall, just 100 meters away.
Explorer8939
06-12-23, 11:57
You condom conscious guys should consider why some ladies insist on using a condom. Maybe they know something you don't know.
There are some low volume ladies I don't use a condom with. But I know the customer base of many of my ladies, so I keep a supply of condoms by my bed.
I have been around long enough to know of some ladies who died of various STDs, but I don't know how many customers they took with them.
Mr Enternational
06-12-23, 14:17
I have 4-5 hrs around 2 PM - 7 PM and want to avoid gogo, beach road seems apt, but I heard walking street has better women post 7?, Just wanted to plan this out.I think you are getting confused. On Beach Road chicks are actually standing around outside waiting for you to take them. On Walking Street there are gogos and discos with chicks inside. There may be like 5 chicks out standing around on the actual street waiting for you to take them whereas there are hundreds on Beach Road. When someone says Walking Street has better women, they are referring to inside the gogos on Walking Street, a place you already stated you want to avoid. They do not even get started until 8 pm anyway, past your time of availability, so nothing on Walking Street would even be an option for you. You want Soi 6 or Beach Road.
How do I find the ladies who have bigger wider hips and rear ends? Do such things exist Bangkok or pattaya? I heard those P. A. A. G Kim kardashian, nicki manaj, are extremely rare if none.There are lots if big butts to be found among the freelancers in Thai Friendly, on Beach Road in Pattaya, and in the beer bars in Pattaya and Bangkok. Much more than most people like, actually.
Mr Enternational
06-12-23, 14:24
How do I find the ladies who have bigger wider hips and rear ends? Do such things exist Bangkok or pattaya? I heard those P. A. A. G Kim kardashian, nicki manaj, are extremely rare if none.You realize that you just named women with fake body parts from plastic surgery right? So you want to know if there are chicks with plastic surgery in Thailand? They generally limit their plastic surgery to nose and tits, not ass and hips.
Mr Enternational
06-12-23, 14:31
I've never been asked by a beach road girl if I want to partake in Service s provided.
Everyone says there are freelancers in Treetown but unless I'm a complete idiot, in 3 years I really have only seen a handful of girls leering at me from some tables. I'm not really sure where they are supposedly congregating unless that's it.Yes. You have to go up to talk to them. They do not actually come up to you. Why do a lot of you guys keep depending on eye contact or special signals? Just go up and talk to the chick.
Chan Chalupa
06-12-23, 14:50
9's everywhere.
Pin-ups 9 pm.
9's out of 10's bad Boob jobs. LOL. Actually 10 out of 10 but I'm trying to be nice.
God Awful, one after another. Side by side. Stage after stage.
A few nice Coyotes with Original s. Not sure only saw a few songs worth.
There are lots if big butts to be found among the freelancers in Thai Friendly, on Beach Road in Pattaya, and in the beer bars in Pattaya and Bangkok. Much more than most people like, actually.There's fatties all over Pattaya which is basically what this commenter is looking for.
The aforementioned Beach Road YT footage also showed some African FLers who were of course thick. The options are there for guys that like them thick and fat.
Heading for Pattaya in a few hours.
1st order of Business. One week at Red Planet for $125 all in. I actually prefer a Hotel closer to Walk Street but will take this,. Price Matters.I have stayed at two Red Planets in BKK but never the one in Pattaya, although I see it come up for so cheap on Agoda. The Asok Red Planet in BKK is great deal, just a stone's throw from the Asok BTS and T21. In Pattaya you can get much nicer hotels for not much more so never saw the appeal of the Pattaya Red Planet.
Why do a lot of you guys keep depending on eye contact or special signals? Just go up and talk to the chick.Because most of the time they think we really want them and take it as a pretext to pull a higher fee plus often they expect us to pay at least their drinks, when they're not acting like uninterrested.
MongerHunger
06-12-23, 21:37
I have 4-5 hrs around 2 PM - 7 PM and want to avoid gogo, beach road seems apt, but I heard walking street has better women post 7?, Just wanted to plan this out.Beach Road and Walking Street can be slim pickings during daytime hours. Some of the girls are just waking up at noon 12 pm and others want to avoid the heat during the day. At night things pick up considerably. It doesn't hurt to try during your hours of availability and you might want to set up something in advance on Thai Friendly. Massage establishments are another option as they are open during the day.
MongerHunger
06-12-23, 22:11
I didn't take any Beach Rd. FLers when I was there last year but based on the YT videos I see, there's decent looking women lined up on the beach. You'll never have to pay more than 1 k baht for one of them and many will go with you for 700-800 baht. There will always be value in Pattaya if you are willing to put in the time to find it.
As cheap as Soi 6 is (average about 1,500 baht total for ST / room), you can save 500-800 baht hitting up Beach Road instead.You are quite correct. As of just a few weeks ago freelancers on Beach Road are asking between 700-1000 baht. More asking for 1000 baht which seems more of the standard now and there are some lookers out there on the beach. I sampled 2 chicks from there and was not disappointed. I even sat with groups of girls drinking, talking and having fun with their friends. Very friendly, warm and inviting.
MongerHunger
06-12-23, 22:17
There's fatties all over Pattaya which is basically what this commenter is looking for.
The aforementioned Beach Road YT footage also showed some African FLers who were of course thick. The options are there for guys that like them thick and fat.I spoke with several African girls on Beach Rd and they are on the thicker side naturally. They are asking 1500-2000 baht. They said because they are a rare commodity there and I seen them taking customers. There is something for everyone.
Explorer8939
06-13-23, 02:28
Anyone actually in Pattaya now? I am taking a short trip out of town but I hear it's very quiet.
You like to be fed by other people? I've got one for you, girl named "Som", dark skin, beautiful face (looks a bit like an Indian girl), very smooth skin, some tattoos, a bit of meat all over her body, very nice bubble butt and puts a very good attitude in her work. She likes guys like you, Indians and Middle Easterns, easy customers she says. You need to know where she works? The massage place right next to Cheap Charlie. Best price you can get her? 1500 baht all in if you're a good negociator.
Looking forward to your report when you'll meet her during your next trip in 3 years.If you do not know how a civilized forum is supposed to work. Please go check out Dubai forum. Nothing more to say.
Oh actually yes, I do. There is a "Rants, Stupid Shit In Thailand" forum. That's probably a better place for most of the nonsense spewed.
Frankypanky
06-13-23, 10:07
How do I find the ladies who have bigger wider hips and rear ends? Do such things exist Bangkok or pattaya? I heard those P. A. A. G Kim kardashian, nicki manaj, are extremely rare if none.Spots to look for bigger girls;.
Club 808 at WS.
Club RAAK at WS. It's an Indian Disco. No idea if you can enter if you're non-indian (guess not).
Beach Road across Mike Shopping Mall.
I remember a thick lady at TreeTown. 08 bar, which is a bit hidden.
I would not use TF to look for a curvy gal. Too much pictures altered with filters.
Had a girl who did not even looked like the photo. Worse was the terrible smell.
Gave her 100 B taxi money.
Stick to BR or FL at WS. WYSIWYG. Well, usually.
Good Hunting,
Mr Enternational
06-13-23, 14:59
Because most of the time they think we really want them and take it as a pretext to pull a higher fee plus often they expect us to pay at least their drinks, when they're not acting like uninterrested.Never had that problem. If anything chicks have invited me to sit down and drink and eat the shit they are paying for.
You are quite correct. As of just a few weeks ago freelancers on Beach Road are asking between 700-1000 baht. More asking for 1000 baht which seems more of the standard now and there are some lookers out there on the beach. I sampled 2 chicks from there and was not disappointed. I even sat with groups of girls drinking, talking and having fun with their friends. Very friendly, warm and inviting.Good to hear. I watched another one of the night time Beach Road YT videos that was dated as being shot this week and felt the same after watching that video that there are decent looking FLers on Beach Road. Yes, most are unattractive and / or fat, but there are some average to slightly above average ones mixed in. The conundrum for me is that I'm not a night person and it seems like after 10:00 there is more quantity.
And as others have said, this recent video also showed that the majority of customers are Indian with some Middle Easterners thrown in. You could over hear a negotiation going on and the FLer quotes 1,000 baht and the Indian customer moves on hehe.
Frankypanky
06-13-23, 21:18
You could over hear a negotiation going on and the FLer quotes 1,000 baht and the Indian customer moves on hehe.More and more girls deal with these Indian customers in a swift way.
No chat or 'small-talk'. It does not help that these guys just approach a lady and ask 'how much you cost'? One should understand that these women don't see themselfs as 'hardcore hookers'. We know they are, but that's Thai logic for you! But the trick is just to play along. I always give (true) compliments and make a joke. Keeping thing light is the key!
Via LINE I had contact with some BR ladies whom complained that some Indians blatantly offer 500 B for LT or 300 for ST. Not suprising, she now refuses any Indian customer walking on Beach Road.
5 months before I am back in Pattaya and Beach Road.
More and more girls deal with these Indian customers in a swift way.
No chat or 'small-talk'. It does not help that these guys just approach a lady and ask 'how much you cost'? One should understand that these women don't see themselfs as 'hardcore hookers'. We know they are, but that's Thai logic for you! But the trick is just to play along. I always give (true) compliments and make a joke. Keeping thing light is the key!
Via LINE I had contact with some BR ladies whom complained that some Indians blatantly offer 500 B for LT or 300 for ST. Not suprising, she now refuses any Indian customer walking on Beach Road.
5 months before I am back in Pattaya and Beach Road.Yeah I think most non-Indian mongers have heard complaints from the girls regarding Indian monger's proclivity for low balling. The Indian mongers are always approaching the FLers on Beach Road in groups of at least 2 or 3 which I can see as being intimidating for the FLers. They also try and get a deal on gang banging the Flers LOL. To each their own I suppose.
Mr Enternational
06-13-23, 22:33
You could over hear a negotiation going on and the FLer quotes 1,000 baht and the Indian customer moves on hehe.Yeah but you go to Raas and Janaarat and you will see the Indian customers paying 4000!
Chan Chalupa
06-13-23, 23:14
Anyone actually in Pattaya now? I am taking a short trip out of town but I hear it's very quiet.Word of the day LOSSES. How much losses can WS agogos take?
Customer count is just absolutely Horrid.
Funny stuff at Peppermint Patty's. They more than have their Fare Share of big bad boob jobs.
Not to be repetitive but you know Pattaya is devoid of tourists when Red Planet has rooms for $15.
Word of the day LOSSES. How much losses can WS agogos take?
Customer count is just absolutely Horrid.
Funny stuff at Peppermint Patty's. They more than have their Fare Share of big bad boob jobs.
Not to be repetitive but you know Pattaya is devoid of tourists when Red Planet has rooms for $15.Watched a few ride around on motorbike videos on YT today and both of the YTers were lamenting how dead it is and that many bars have more girls working than customers.
Explorer8939
06-14-23, 02:17
Times are tough for most of the ladies. I had a lady pitch me for money, claiming that she had a customer promise her 5000 baht to fuck her ass, but he didn't pay. Reading between the lines, it probably hurt so much that she complained and he didn't finish.
So she claimed she had no money.
Obviously, she forgot she had asked me the operating hours of Western Union, just a couple of days earlier.
Explorer8939
06-14-23, 02:39
Here's a warning:
A newbie barfined a bargirl for 2 days, decided it was True Love, and bought out her contract from the bar for 10,000 baht. After a week, she disappeared. The guy was stupid enough to ask for a refund from the bar.
Note, you could ask for a refund if the lady went back to work at the same bar, but this lady disappeared.
LittleBigMan
06-14-23, 03:38
Yeah but you go to Raas and Janaarat and you will see the Indian customers paying 4000!True,
People like to express their opinions and generalize but don't see clearly enough to understand there are cheap, in every group. I've seen rich Thais, cheap Thais, and Thais who want to show they are rich. You know the saying don't judge by the cover and that is what Thais ladies do, reason many can't get into GoGo, the reason there are clubs like Raas and Janaarat while places are empty they are packed. Throwing money like Asians I've seen at GoGos prior to Covid.
Not every Indian is walking up and down Beach Road looking for the cheap. If you want to do a study just go to the middle of the walking street on weekends in front of the tourist police table around Lucifers there are a bunch of freelancers, stand and watch and see the type of Indians that walk by and stare these are the ones from Beach Road looking for cheaps, watch the interaction negotiation, the face on the girl's reaction from the interaction if it is your thing very entertaining if you understand a bit of Thai and can hear the responses to the other girls after they leave it is a laugh.
I once had a girl near me turn saw me smile she thought I was Thai said " Fucking guy offer 500 baht said jokingly I'm in the wrong professional if I accept that mine as well be a taxi driver ".
Here's a warning:
A newbie barfined a bargirl for 2 days, decided it was True Love, and bought out her contract from the bar for 10,000 baht. After a week, she disappeared. The guy was stupid enough to ask for a refund from the bar.
Note, you could ask for a refund if the lady went back to work at the same bar, but this lady disappeared.I have a trouble feeling sorry for the guy. I hope he learned his lesson. Buying out her contract was probably cheap compared to what he had to spend feeding her for a week. LOL.
LittleBigMan
06-14-23, 05:09
I have a trouble feeling sorry for the guy. I hope he learned his lesson. Buying out her contract was probably cheap compared to what he had to spend feeding her for a week. LOL.Some never learned the fact he went back to the place to ask for refund makes it suspect.
What is missing in these cases is aside from buying out contract was payment arrangement made if so did he pay a sum upfront too? Certainly she wasn't going to stay for free.
Also not smart on the part of girl unless she was planning to leave the professional and never return or just too stupid herself.
Chan Chalupa
06-14-23, 05:46
Tourist boards generalize all the time.
Thais targeted Indians coming out of COVID and look what Happened. Lots of Them showed up but Spending went down per person. Hahaha.
Please don't blame Beach Road girls for rude behavior,. If we were in their shoes we would not deal with THEM either. Hahaha.
RakSopheni
06-14-23, 06:14
Red Planet has rooms for $15.You are bringing top tier ST 3000 baht talent back to a $15 room? No offense.
RakSopheni
06-14-23, 06:16
After 3 weeks straight of drinking and mongering every day I've been feeling a bit burned out. Took a day off, hopefully that helped. I'm not sure how guys like Explorer8939 can do this 24-7-365.
Explorer8939
06-14-23, 06:48
After 3 weeks straight of drinking and mongering every day I've been feeling a bit burned out. Took a day off, hopefully that helped. I'm not sure how guys like Explorer8939 can do this 24-7-365.I don't drink and monger every day. In fact, I just took some days off for a holiday to Kuala Lumpur and now Hua Hin. With ladies, of course, but very little drinking.
When I am in Pattaya, I sometimes schedule flaky ladies who sometimes don't show up to have a break.
Sometimes I schedule ladies who I don't fuck. Or maybe just get a BJ.
But, during Covid, I had 5 ladies a day, every day, and heavy drinking. And they were horny ladies, since Thai men largely bailed from Pattaya when the money vaporized. That was tiring, but it only lasted 3 months. Not just physically tiring, but mentally tiring, since I had to remember the wants and needs of so many different ladies.
It's easy now, I can get by with a quickie fuck, and lady has done her work.
Watched a few ride around on motorbike videos on YT today and both of the YTers were lamenting how dead it is and that many bars have more girls working than customers.Woohoo! That's what I want to hear with less than three weeks to go before I touchdown.
Mr Enternational
06-14-23, 12:39
Here's a warning:
A newbie barfined a bargirl for 2 days, decided it was True Love, and bought out her contract from the bar for 10,000 baht. After a week, she disappeared. The guy was stupid enough to ask for a refund from the bar.
Note, you could ask for a refund if the lady went back to work at the same bar, but this lady disappeared.Well Pattaya has always been ripe with suckers. Did you see in the news the other day the foreigner that bought the salon for his "girlfriend"? She turned around and sold it to someone else. He went in destroying the place and making problems for the new owner claiming it is his place. If you are paying hookers then pay hookers. If you have a normal girlfriend then there is no need to pay them or buy expensive shit for them. A lot of guys seem to get the lines crossed.
https://thepattayanews.com/2023/06/10/foreign-man-allegedly-damages-salon-in-pattaya/
Chan Chalupa
06-14-23, 13:15
Two Rouge Indians got beat up outside an Indian club.
I wonder if they part of the 4 k short time Cklub. Hahaha.
Tourist boards generalize all the time.
Thais targeted Indians coming out of COVID and look what Happened. Lots of Them showed up but Spending went down per person. Hahaha.
Please don't blame Beach Road girls for rude behavior,. If we were in their shoes we would not deal with THEM either. Hahaha.The Indians have a very good portion of WS now. They attract many Indian's to their clubs. Looks like they're doing pretty good.
Agree with the BR girls. There are a few YTers who do nothing but query the girls on their ST / LT prices. Treat them with respect. To them it's a job.
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06-14-23, 15:42
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You are bringing top tier ST 3000 baht talent back to a $15 room? No offense.Very fair question hehe.
Well Pattaya has always been ripe with suckers. Did you see in the news the other day the foreigner that bought the salon for his "girlfriend"? She turned around and sold it to someone else. He went in destroying the place and making problems for the new owner claiming it is his place. If you are paying hookers then pay hookers. If you have a normal girlfriend then there is no need to pay them or buy expensive shit for them. A lot of guys seem to get the lines crossed.
https://thepattayanews.com/2023/06/10/foreign-man-allegedly-damages-salon-in-pattaya/I have no sympathy for these kinds of morons, they get what they deserve. Never be a sucker for women let alone hookers.
After 3 weeks straight of drinking and mongering every day I've been feeling a bit burned out. Took a day off, hopefully that helped. I'm not sure how guys like Explorer8939 can do this 24-7-365.I think two days on one day off is the way to go and on your day off just get a couple of professional massages, hit up Koh Larn, catch a movie etc.
I don't drink and usually never session more than once in a day. Works for me. I like having down time and time to just relax and do my own thing.
Explorer8939
06-15-23, 07:36
I think two days on one day off is the way to go and on your day off just get a couple of professional massages, hit up Koh Larn, catch a movie etc.
I don't drink and usually never session more than once in a day. Works for me. I like having down time and time to just relax and do my own thing.Yeah, I do intentionally schedule down time, but by 1 pm, I sometimes run out to a bar to find a lady for the afternoon.
Tvataham274
06-15-23, 14:23
Here's a warning:
A newbie barfined a bargirl for 2 days, decided it was True Love, and bought out her contract from the bar for 10,000 baht. After a week, she disappeared. The guy was stupid enough to ask for a refund from the bar.
Note, you could ask for a refund if the lady went back to work at the same bar, but this lady disappeared.PBS.
People be stupid.
Frankypanky
06-15-23, 20:40
Here's a warning:
A newbie barfined a bargirl for 2 days, decided it was True Love, and bought out her contract from the bar for 10,000 baht. After a week, she disappeared. The guy was stupid enough to ask for a refund from the bar.
Note, you could ask for a refund if the lady went back to work at the same bar, but this lady disappeared.You said after a WEEK. That 7 days? Or less than 1500 per day! That's not a bad deal for a bar / gogo girl. If he had to pay barfines as well, he would pay a lot more! .
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