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Mr Enternational
06-15-23, 21:17
You said after a WEEK. That 7 days? Or less than 1500 per day! That's not a bad deal for a bar / gogo girl. If he had to pay barfines as well, he would pay a lot more! .The 10,000 WAS the barfine. That does not include the money he would give to the chick.
Haven't you complained about barfining a woman you didn't want to have sex with? Some people do goofy things. 10 k baht isn't a terrible price to pay for some knowledge.
Here's a warning:
A newbie barfined a bargirl for 2 days, decided it was True Love, and bought out her contract from the bar for 10,000 baht. After a week, she disappeared. The guy was stupid enough to ask for a refund from the bar.
Note, you could ask for a refund if the lady went back to work at the same bar, but this lady disappeared.
Explorer8939
06-16-23, 00:19
You said after a WEEK. That 7 days? Or less than 1500 per day! That's not a bad deal for a bar / gogo girl. If he had to pay barfines as well, he would pay a lot more! .That's just the barfine, he paid the lady 40 K up front.
Explorer8939
06-16-23, 00:20
Haven't you complained about barfining a woman you didn't want to have sex with? Some people do goofy things. 10 k baht isn't a terrible price to pay for some knowledge.Again, that was the cost to buy the lady's contract from the bar, and did not include what he paid her.
RakSopheni
06-16-23, 06:18
Beach Road was looking particularly good last night, which is something I am surprised to hear myself say. There was a young spinner on the north end that I almost pulled the trigger on but I had already dumped a load that day and also was not 100 $% sure she was legal (said she was 18). Got her line and tiktok and will continue to mull it over.
If anyone has been there in the evening lately I'm sure they will have seen this hard to miss couple walking, possibly soliciting some sort of group thing. They both are extremely good looking, very tall, fit, possibly Russian or Slavic. She is about 6 feet tall, and her body is the closest thing to a Barbie Doll I have ever seen (minus the blonde hair). He is a walking Adonis, perhaps 6'5", muscular and handsome. I get strange eye contact from him when I stare in disbelief at this arresting vision of double human perfection. If they are not soliciting, they sure do like to walk up and down Beach Road as I see them just about every time I do. Anyone have any insight into what may be going on here? Is it just an innocent couple who likes to stroll in Sex City ?
RakSopheni
06-16-23, 06:21
I think two days on one day off is the way to go and on your day off just get a couple of professional massages, hit up Koh Larn, catch a movie etc.
I don't drink and usually never session more than once in a day. Works for me. I like having down time and time to just relax and do my own thing.I took a couple days off and am feeling better. Will slow down the drinking from here on. Also will be taking an excursion to Indonesia and Laos to mix things up.
Frankypanky
06-16-23, 20:13
The 10,000 WAS the barfine. That does not include the money he would give to the chick.I understand. And I read something about 40 k upfront. What the H! If I have to pay upfront, it's a major Red Flag to me! Yes, I had to learn that lesson too. Thankfully the damage was a small 2 k Baht.
Frankypanky
06-16-23, 20:18
Beach Road was looking particularly good last night, which is something I am surprised to hear myself say. There was a young spinner on the north end that I almost pulled the trigger on but I had already dumped a load that day and also was not 100 $% sure she was legal (said she was 18). Got her line and tiktok and will continue to mull it over.
If anyone has been there in the evening lately I'm sure they will have seen this hard to miss couple walking, possibly soliciting some sort of group thing. They both are extremely good looking, very tall, fit, possibly Russian or Slavic. She is about 6 feet tall, and her body is the closest thing to a Barbie Doll I have ever seen (minus the blonde hair). He is a walking Adonis, perhaps 6'5", muscular and handsome. I get strange eye contact from him when I stare in disbelief at this arresting vision of double human perfection. If they are not soliciting, they sure do like to walk up and down Beach Road as I see them just about every time I do. Anyone have any insight into what may be going on here? Is it just an innocent couple who likes to stroll in Sex City ?Dude is probably too beautiful (according to your description) to die for Putin. I saw many Slavic-looking couples walking around in April. I assumed they were Russians fleeing the war (mobilization).
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If anyone has been there in the evening lately I'm sure they will have seen this hard to miss couple walking, possibly soliciting some sort of group thing. They both are extremely good looking, very tall, fit, possibly Russian or Slavic. She is about 6 feet tall, and her body is the closest thing to a Barbie Doll I have ever seen (minus the blonde hair). He is a walking Adonis, perhaps 6'5", muscular and handsome. I get strange eye contact from him when I stare in disbelief at this arresting vision of double human perfection. If they are not soliciting, they sure do like to walk up and down Beach Road as I see them just about every time I do. Anyone have any insight into what may be going on here? Is it just an innocent couple who likes to stroll in Sex City ?Russian couple on holiday, not much to do in Pattaya if you're not a sex-tourist, except stroll on Beach Road in the evening. If they were doing tricks they'd be on TF I think, or at least they would not go out as a couple. Those stunning Russian women can be a reminder of what a real 9 looks like. Seeing them depresses me because the girls I session in Thailand have poor figures in comparision.
If anyone has been there in the evening lately I'm sure they will have seen this hard to miss couple walking, possibly soliciting some sort of group thing. They both are extremely good looking, very tall, fit, possibly Russian or Slavic. She is about 6 feet tall, and her body is the closest thing to a Barbie Doll I have ever seen (minus the blonde hair). He is a walking Adonis, perhaps 6'5", muscular and handsome. I get strange eye contact from him when I stare in disbelief at this arresting vision of double human perfection. If they are not soliciting, they sure do like to walk up and down Beach Road as I see them just about every time I do. Anyone have any insight into what may be going on here? Is it just an innocent couple who likes to stroll in Sex City ?Things might get interesting if they are spotted in Potholes or LK where more hardcore action can take place, or in some GC.
GentileBear
06-17-23, 00:45
not much to do in Pattaya if you're not a sex-tourist,I always tell my Wife it is a Golfing destination. Lots of golfers go to Pattaya.
Chan Chalupa
06-17-23, 02:23
Pins ups was packed last night. I was being escorted to the Bob Uecker seats. Baseball reference. Meaning Bad seats. Didn't want to waste three fiddy so went to Tantra instead. A new farm fresh off the bus issarn girl quite attractive, peaked my interest,. Coyote Though so just gave her a measly Tip for her attempt in trying to milked me dry with Ladydrinks. I said she was attractive.
Explorer8939
06-17-23, 02:38
Pacing myself:
After 5 days travel with 3 different ladies, I came back to Pattaya and had a lady come over for drinks. She got really drunk, so she ended up falling asleep holding my dick. I guess if I were a 2 week millionaire, I would just fuck her in the morning, but I have 2 ladies coming here today, and I definitely have to pace myself. So I let her pass out last night, and will let her go back to her Thai husband untouched today.
Meanwhile, its another day in paradise in Pattaya.
Except I heard yet another bar manager died suddenly this month.
Beach Road was looking particularly good last night, which is something I am surprised to hear myself say. There was a young spinner on the north end that I almost pulled the trigger on but I had already dumped a load that day and also was not 100 $% sure she was legal (said she was 18). Got her line and tiktok and will continue to mull it over.
If anyone has been there in the evening lately I'm sure they will have seen this hard to miss couple walking, possibly soliciting some sort of group thing. They both are extremely good looking, very tall, fit, possibly Russian or Slavic. She is about 6 feet tall, and her body is the closest thing to a Barbie Doll I have ever seen (minus the blonde hair). He is a walking Adonis, perhaps 6'5", muscular and handsome. I get strange eye contact from him when I stare in disbelief at this arresting vision of double human perfection. If they are not soliciting, they sure do like to walk up and down Beach Road as I see them just about every time I do. Anyone have any insight into what may be going on here? Is it just an innocent couple who likes to stroll in Sex City ?Perhaps the low season is causing many girls to double dip work and work Beach Road at night. Seems like an uptick in quality when I compare videos from last year to now.
Watched another YT video today on the state of Pattaya and this YTer was also pointing out how quiet Pattaya is after such a bustling and crowded high season. I think the pent up Covid demand contributed to a ton of tourists going to Pattaya once Thailand fully opened for high season and now things are leveling out. Throw sky high airfares on top of that and weakening economies and it should be a very quiet low season in Pattaya.
Explorer8939
06-17-23, 05:38
Pins ups was packed last night. I was being escorted to the Bob Uecker seats. Baseball reference. Meaning Bad seats. Didn't want to waste three fiddy so went to Tantra instead. A new farm fresh off the bus issarn girl quite attractive, peaked my interest,. Coyote Though so just gave her a measly Tip for her attempt in trying to milked me dry with Ladydrinks. I said she was attractive.I don't think the guys living in Pattaya visit gogos very often.
Banana Boi
06-17-23, 05:52
I always tell my Wife it is a Golfing destination. Lots of golfers go to Pattaya.You're only fooling yourself that she and others don't know why you are going to Thailand. I know guys who actually all lug their golf clubs across the world to Thailand just to keep this facade. They don't go anywhere near a golf course.
SoberHans69
06-17-23, 06:49
Russian couple on holiday, not much to do in Pattaya if you're not a sex-tourist, except stroll on Beach Road in the evening. If they were doing tricks they'd be on TF I think, or at least they would not go out as a couple. Those stunning Russian women can be a reminder of what a real 9 looks like. Seeing them depresses me because the girls I session in Thailand have poor figures in comparision.You usually see the Russian tourist stunners with average to below average weirdly dressed men too, not that I'm jealous haha.
I think I heard that women way outnumbered men in Russia but that could be wrong.
RakSopheni
06-17-23, 09:10
There was a young spinner on the north end that I almost pulled the trigger on but I had already dumped a load that day and also was not 100 $% sure she was legal (said she was 18). Got her line and tiktok and will continue to mull it over.Update: she was able to furnish me with an ID that proved her turning 18 in March, so I had her come over. Insisted on condom so just got a BBJCIM instead but had fun groping her nubile body. 1000ST. First Beach Road Girl I've taken in 3 years. High Price Haters will say she was trash based on price- but this girl was farm fresh out of Sakhon Nakhon- inexperienced and has not figured out the game yet. When she gets wise and learns a little english she could be making double or triple that. Don't DM me for her line, I won't give it to you. Go get her yourself. Beach Road North end.
Chan Chalupa
06-17-23, 09:59
Update: she was able to furnish me with an ID that proved her turning 18 in March, so I had her come over. Insisted on condom so just got a BBJCIM instead but had fun groping her nubile body. 1000ST. First Beach Road Girl I've taken in 3 years. High Price Haters will say she was trash based on price- but this girl was farm fresh out of Sakhon Nakhon- inexperienced and has not figured out the game yet. When she gets wise and learns a little english she could be making double or triple that. Don't DM me for her line, I won't give it to you. Go get her yourself. Beach Road North end.You having to explain how you got 1,000 price proves the 1,000 haters are correct. Except please explain how we are Haters.
Last night a Dark Knight character shower up on a real live live stream. He states he gets real cheap Hotties all over Pattaya. Actually seeing what he considers Hot is Comical.
FernandoAlonso
06-17-23, 12:17
Update: she was able to furnish me with an ID that proved her turning 18 in March, so I had her come over. Insisted on condom so just got a BBJCIM instead but had fun groping her nubile body. 1000ST. First Beach Road Girl I've taken in 3 years. High Price Haters will say she was trash based on price- but this girl was farm fresh out of Sakhon Nakhon- inexperienced and has not figured out the game yet. When she gets wise and learns a little english she could be making double or triple that. Don't DM me for her line, I won't give it to you. Go get her yourself. Beach Road North end.The one with the terrible teeth? Standing in the back just before the stupid reconstruction? It seems 1000 is the current evening standard ST, LT double. Business must be slow, as is quality. Pulled a former Soi 6 lady from there who had just returned and had put up a few pounds so no job at the bar for her. Very nice and good experience. Was her first customer in a week. Lots of group buying from the known ethnicity. They want pay 1000 and then share her. Even with the slow business not a value proposition. Walked up and down a few times, it is really difficult to find something decent these days. Even the soapies, which are booming had little in terms of quality and I found the service very rushed and mechanical. For me an ok place for a few days but far behind Bangkok in terms of quality.
Mr Enternational
06-17-23, 12:42
You're only fooling yourself that she and others don't know why you are going to Thailand. I know guys who actually all lug their golf clubs across the world to Thailand just to keep this facade. They don't go anywhere near a golf course.On the other hand I have friends that all they do in Pattaya is golf. A buddy that lives in Philippines contacted me a couple of weeks ago talking about moving to Pattaya for golfing.
RakSopheni
06-17-23, 15:04
The one with the terrible teeth? Standing in the back just before the stupid reconstruction? It seems 1000 is the current evening standard ST, LT double. Business must be slow, as is quality. Pulled a former Soi 6 lady from there who had just returned and had put up a few pounds so no job at the bar for her. Very nice and good experience. Was her first customer in a week. Lots of group buying from the known ethnicity. They want pay 1000 and then share her. Even with the slow business not a value proposition. Walked up and down a few times, it is really difficult to find something decent these days. Even the soapies, which are booming had little in terms of quality and I found the service very rushed and mechanical. For me an ok place for a few days but far behind Bangkok in terms of quality.She would not have been the first girl I've pulled from the Coconut Bar in 3 years if she had terrible teeth. Take the piss but be a bit more creative.
Stay at large with girl with bad teeth.
Nor than a decade ago one with back black teeth give a BBJ with CIM take 2 years to heals.
I have a fucking bad rate with VD.
Chan Chalupa
06-18-23, 01:01
Lust las night in 30 minutes.
A guy bought 75 drinks. Rang the doorbell 3 time's.
Good for him and the Girls.
I always tell my Wife it is a Golfing destination. Lots of golfers go to Pattaya.When you return home does she ask you if you had fun with your club and balls?
Pins ups was packed last night. I was being escorted to the Bob Uecker seats.
.Have to admit that I almost snorted milk out of my nose laughing so hard at this reference. What a pull! I arrive in 5 days. Should be a fun time.
Explorer8939
06-18-23, 04:03
Never, never, never send money to a bargirl when you go home.
If you really love her and you can't control yourself, send the money to her Thai boyfriend directly, and save your honey some time and effort.
If you don't think your bargirl has a Thai boyfriend, well, there's no hope for you.
The one with the terrible teeth? Standing in the back just before the stupid reconstruction? It seems 1000 is the current evening standard ST, LT double. Business must be slow, as is quality. Pulled a former Soi 6 lady from there who had just returned and had put up a few pounds so no job at the bar for her. Very nice and good experience. Was her first customer in a week. Lots of group buying from the known ethnicity. They want pay 1000 and then share her. Even with the slow business not a value proposition. Walked up and down a few times, it is really difficult to find something decent these days. Even the soapies, which are booming had little in terms of quality and I found the service very rushed and mechanical. For me an ok place for a few days but far behind Bangkok in terms of quality.I wouldn't balk at 1,000 baht for decent looking women. I'm currently still home in the US and although I stopped seeing providers here years ago, I still peruse the ads for kicks to see how much the rates are. Today I came across a Thai escort, 23 years old, average looking at best, who charges $600 an hour for non-GFE services. Yes you read that right, 6 benjamins for a non-GFE one hour session. And you know the session would be mediocre to bad given American women's entitlement.
$600 gets you 20 sessions in Pattaya or 100 foot massages.
Point being, I'm sure quality is down in Pattaya, but don't take the value of Pattaya mongering for granted.
Pins ups was packed last night. I was being escorted to the Bob Uecker seats. Baseball reference. Meaning Bad seats. Didn't want to waste three fiddy so went to Tantra instead. A new farm fresh off the bus issarn girl quite attractive, peaked my interest,. Coyote Though so just gave her a measly Tip for her attempt in trying to milked me dry with Ladydrinks. I said she was attractive.Same experience there inApril. We were seated in the very last seat, though close to the toilet. Because of the "L" shape of the bar, could only really see about 10 of the girls. Even if I wanted to buy a girl a drink, there was nowhere for her to sit. We had one drink then went to Windmill, where we were right at the stage and the girls were very hands-on.
Explorer8939
06-18-23, 15:34
I spent the afternoon with a silicon enhanced MILF, as she finished a bottle of Jose Cuervo. The only interruptions were constant messages from lovesick men back home, but no problem for me after she got naked. Well, until she passed out on my sofa.
But I didn't fuck her, because I knew what was coming, a lady who got over the top horny once she had a few shots of tequila. The second lady was literally too much for me, my trick of faking an orgasm to get out of there didn't work. Even after I took a shower, she begged me to fuck her ass. But I was still drunk from the first lady, so she had to do everything, alternating between her ass and pussy, and even giving me BJs (The problem is she had a lady friend asking her to go out to some bar, so she wanted to go quickly, but wanted to fuck for a long time. I told her to come back another day when I didn't have a lady before, and she didn't have to leave quickly.
So I paid 4000 baht for two ladies, but didn't cum once. But no lack of naked ladies swarming me. And the twins are coming tomorrow.
A program note: the silicon enhanced MILF wants to go to Phuket with me, but I told her she had to pay for her ticket, since she always has customers. We'll see what happens.
Chan Chalupa
06-19-23, 01:48
Source. Livestream Chatter.
So I'm no confidence of trueability.
Night wish bars. To get full compensation girls need to get 4 Barfines a week plus the drink minimum s.
Can someone Confirm.
I can't see but 2% of Soi6 girls getting 4 Barfines a week. It's impossible. Hahaha.
From you tube vids 2,500 miles away they look OK. Try sitting in a Bar and look at them 2 feet away from you. OMG they just are not attractive.
GentileBear
06-19-23, 03:48
I respectively disagree. Being able to see and talk to the ladies 2 feet away while walking back and forth on Soy 6 is a benefit. And I found a decent amount of ladies who were reasonable good looking.
Mr Enternational
06-19-23, 05:37
I respectively disagree. Being able to see and talk to the ladies 2 feet away while walking back and forth on Soy 6 is a benefit.2 feet away? Why so far? Whenever I am walking down Soi 6 they grab me and will not let me walk off.
RakSopheni
06-19-23, 06:56
Point being, I'm sure quality is down in Pattaya, but don't take the value of Pattaya mongering for granted.Hard agree. I don't even think quality is all that "down" all things considered.
Also I'm starting to wonder if the High Price Haters are ever even pulling the trigger on these "top tier" GoGo girls or just going to sit in the bleachers for some overpriced grab and tickle. I certainly never hear any actual reports from that corner, just grammatically artistic naysaying in haiku form. No offense.
In the past 28 days I fucked 25 times. Ten girls total. Repeated with one seven times, two girls four times, one girl three times, one girl twice, all the rest single visits. Repeats were necessitated by difficulty finding the quality and sexual activities I require. I do not recommend repeats beyond 3 or 4 as they get lazy.
Locations where I scored.
Soi Boomerang: Slutz, Screamers, Pleasure Lounge.
Soi Excite: Excite Club.
Soi Bongkot: Badabing, Purple.
Soi 6: Sexy in the City, Butterfly.
Random bar on Soi Pothole.
Beach Road.
Thai Friendly. (TF has more flakers and catfish than last Summer. Most girls on there will not even wake up until 18:00 so its not good for early action. Ok to skip it IMO)
You can meet girls at Gentleman's Clubs that will then take a day off and ST with you or see you before work. The hottest girls at the GC's either just started or quit the week I met them.
All ST 1000-1500 (not counting drinks, barfine etc).
LT 2000 (I think she genuinely liked me and also liked free food and AC and not dealing with her roommate. I think 2500-3000 more common).
BBFSCIP x 4/10 girls.
BBBJCIM x 7/10 girls.
DT x3/10 (one Throat GOAT enjoyed puking throat slop into a bucket).
All girls could be considered slim and / or petite. Two had silicone, 350,400 CC respectively. Ages 18-30. Face: some girls slightly above average, some very cute, a few pretty. GC's now actually have pretty girls but they don't stay there long.
Locations that looked promising with cute girls outside that I did not try: Pink Lady (Soi Honey), PitStop (Soi Pothole), Unreal Bar (LK Metro).
Last few days my dick stopped working. Boredom? Kamagra tolerance? Middle Age Male fatigue from 1 month partying straight? Who knows. Hope it rectifies with some time off.
I'm not sure I will be mongering in Bangkok, but have some plans to do so in Jakarta- which I hear is positive for BBFS. Will return to Pattaya for round 2 in July hopefully.
My reports this summer where not as breathless and detailed as last Summer but I guess it's just more routine at this point.
Chan Chalupa
06-19-23, 10:03
Hard agree. I don't even think quality is all that "down" all things considered.
Also I'm starting to wonder if the High Price Haters are ever even pulling the trigger on these "top tier" GoGo girls or just going to sit in the bleachers for some overpriced grab and tickle. I certainly never hear any actual reports from that corner, just grammatically artistic naysaying in haiku form. No offense.
In the past 28 days I fucked 25 times. Ten girls total. Repeated with one seven times, two girls four times, one girl three times, one girl twice, all the rest single visits. Repeats were necessitated by difficulty finding the quality and sexual activities I require. I do not recommend repeats beyond 3 or 4 as they get lazy.
Locations where I scored.
Soi Boomerang: Slutz, Screamers, Pleasure Lounge.
Soi Excite: Excite Club.
Soi Bongkot: Badabing, Purple.
Soi 6: Sexy in the City, Butterfly.
Random bar on Soi Pothole.
Beach Road.
Thai Friendly. (TF has more flakers and catfish than last Summer. Most girls on there will not even wake up until 18:00 so its not good for early action. Ok to skip it IMO)
You can meet girls at Gentleman's Clubs that will then take a day off and ST with you or see you before work. The hottest girls at the GC's either just started or quit the week I met them.
All ST 1000-1500 (not counting drinks, barfine etc).
LT 2000 (I think she genuinely liked me and also liked free food and AC and not dealing with her roommate. I think 2500-3000 more common).
BBFSCIP x 4/10 girls.
BBBJCIM x 7/10 girls.
DT x3/10 (one Throat GOAT enjoyed puking throat slop into a bucket).
All girls could be considered slim and / or petite. Two had silicone, 350,400 CC respectively. Ages 18-30. Face: some girls slightly above average, some very cute, a few pretty. GC's now actually have pretty girls but they don't stay there long.
Locations that looked promising with cute girls outside that I did not try: Pink Lady (Soi Honey), PitStop (Soi Pothole), Unreal Bar (LK Metro).
Last few days my dick stopped working. Boredom? Kamagra tolerance? Middle Age Male fatigue from 1 month partying straight? Who knows. Hope it rectifies with some time off.
I'm not sure I will be mongering in Bangkok, but have some plans to do so in Jakarta- which I hear is positive for BBFS. Will return to Pattaya for round 2 in July hopefully.
My reports this summer where not as breathless and detailed as last Summer but I guess it's just more routine at this point.Again for the Umpteenth time people are not Barfining the Hot Walking Street girls in droves.
Just do an eyeball test.
Over one week so far, equal hours as one week in Nana Plaza.
Rainbow for comparison.
In Rainbow over 1. 5 hours (just one day) I'd see 10 or more girls being Barfined.
In Walking street over 1. 5 hours times 7 I've yet to see anywhere near 10 guys Barfine.
As far as 1 kgirls go. God bless you sir. No one hates you for having Fun with them. Hahaha.
Chan Chalupa
06-19-23, 12:47
Another misnomer. Never take a girl more than 2 or Three times.
I say take her till you don't want to anymore.
The most Fun I has pre COVID were girls that I sessioned with over 30 40 times.
Hard to believe but in those days Connection s were not hard to find.
Of course this doesn't apply for short time stayers.
Hot girls actually gave good Massage s then. Huay Kwang area.
Explorer8939
06-19-23, 16:02
Another misnomer. Never take a girl more than 2 or Three times.
I say take her till you don't want to anymore.
The most Fun I has pre COVID were girls that I sessioned with over 30 40 times.
Hard to believe but in those days Connection s were not hard to find.
Of course this doesn't apply for short time stayers.
Hot girls actually gave good Massage s then. Huay Kwang area.For some ladies, service quality diminishes over time. Or, you get tired of their act.
Chan Chalupa
06-19-23, 16:49
Monday at Pepper Patties.
The teeny tiny girl with glasses got Barfined. Imagine a 75 lb girl servicing a 225 pound guy.
They have some decent girls but they just don't seem very Friendly. Is it me? No I don't think so but I could be wrong.
Even the Hot ones at Palace Station try to get your attention by being smiley.
Pacha had a 275 pounder on stage. Weird.
If you like Thai rock and roll that Stones place near the entrance got Talent. Wow.
Moon Agogo got hot Hello Girls but they seem Angry all the Time. Hahaha.
Angry Birds. Aka Angry Hello Girls.
Hard agree. I don't even think quality is all that "down" all things considered.
Also I'm starting to wonder if the High Price Haters are ever even pulling the trigger on these "top tier" GoGo girls or just going to sit in the bleachers for some overpriced grab and tickle. I certainly never hear any actual reports from that corner, just grammatically artistic naysaying in haiku form. No offense.
In the past 28 days I fucked 25 times. Ten girls total. Repeated with one seven times, two girls four times, one girl three times, one girl twice, all the rest single visits. Repeats were necessitated by difficulty finding the quality and sexual activities I require. I do not recommend repeats beyond 3 or 4 as they get lazy.
Locations where I scored.
Soi Boomerang: Slutz, Screamers, Pleasure Lounge.
Soi Excite: Excite Club.
Soi Bongkot: Badabing, Purple.My final day in Pattaya last year I took a stroll down Soi 6 and saw something I liked. Walked right up to her and offered 1 k Baht, she obliged and up we went to the dingy ST room. She disrobed in preparation for taking a shower together and goodness, she had the nicest body I had scene since being in Pattaya, coupled with a face that looked half Asian and half Latin. This was the hottetst female I shared the presence of since being in Pattaya. But what do you know, the little guy didn't want to play. I was perplexed, she was perplexed, but my member would not stand to attention. It was a horrible way to end a Pattaya trip as if the session went as planned I would have gotten her Line and tried to see her again in my travels as she was just my type. Anyways, long story short, sometimes the little head just doesn't want to play ball.
Besides the blowjob bars (Club 4 street Bong Koch 8) which are cheeap and easy at 700 for a BBBJ with not the best looking gals. Soi 6 was the best place for cute girls for a great price. Standard price is 1000 bahts for the girl and 400 bahts for the room upstairs.
I learned from this forum to stop asking the price and just assume its 1000 bahts and give her that at the end. Sometimes I gave another 200 for tip if she was great. But whenever you ask how much upfront, she will know you are a newbie and will rip you right off. Do not overpay and ruin it for everyone.
Also so you don't get tricked into buying drinks for a girl who doesn't have sex, always ask first to go upstairs. Thhen tell her to stay first for a drink.
I learned from this forum to stop asking the price and just assume its 1000 bahts and give her that at the end. Sometimes I gave another 200 for tip if she was great. But whenever you ask how much upfront, she will know you are a newbie and will rip you right off. Do not overpay and ruin it for everyone.Yes, this very much. The price is 1000 for the girl. Plus something for the room. They will ask for more but just offer the 1000 and they know you understand the situation and will agree to it. They will of course try to say more, but after you say 1000 once or twice they will agree and everything is set without issue.
Explorer8939
06-20-23, 04:56
Sometimes you meet ladies first on social media, and your only contact is text messaging.
The big red flag is when they declare their eternal love before you see them in the flesh.
Or, sometimes you short time them, and then the text messages start.
The basic rule is: the more intense the messages, the more quickly they wash out. That's where the 3 day rule comes in. By the end of 3 days, the lady is done, and wants to go back to her boyfriend.
Unless I am very sure of a lady, 3 days is the max.
Explorer8939
06-20-23, 05:00
Golfers!
Some guys come to Pattaya and have a golfing holiday, but barfine a lady for a week or 2. The ladies love that, because during the day, they can see their boyfriend, or go with a daytime customer.
I had one lady tell me her 2 week golfing customer didn't fuck her because he had a wife. No matter for her, she collected her money and went to Udon Thani to see her former boyfriend for a week.
Jimmy Boy 99
06-20-23, 08:06
Besides the blowjob bars (Club 4 street Bong Koch 8) which are cheeap and easy at 700 for a BBBJ with not the best looking gals. Soi 6 was the best place for cute girls on for a great price. Standard price is 1000 bahts for the girl and 400 bahts for the room upstairs.
I learned from this forum to stop asking the price and just assume its 1000 bahts and give her that at the end. Sometimes I gave another 200 for tip if she was great. But whenever you ask how much upfront, she will know you are a newbie and will rip you right off. Do not overpay and ruin it for everyone.
Also so you don't get tricked into buying drinks for a girl who doesn't have sex, always ask first to go upstairs. Thhen tell her to stay first for a drink.I would not recommend going to the room without agreeing on the price first. Some girls, especially in the Nightwish bars and the ones at the Beach road end of the soi are firm on Baht 1500 or even 2000.
Doing a session with one of these girls and giving her 1000 Baht after the session could cause you a problem. It is better to tell a girl you pay 1000 and let her decide if she wants to accept that.
Chan Chalupa
06-20-23, 08:51
I would not recommend going to the room without agreeing on the price first. Some girls, especially in the Nightwish bars and the ones at the Beach road end of the soi are firm on Baht 1500 or even 2000.
Doing a session with one of these girls and giving her 1000 Baht after the session could cause you a problem. It is better to tell a girl you pay 1000 and let her decide if she wants to accept that.With a Keen eye you intrinsically know which are the 1,000 bahters. No Worries. Hahaha.
Ye I'm being Facetious. No Hate intended though.
Yes, this very much. The price is 1000 for the girl. Plus something for the room. They will ask for more but just offer the 1000 and they know you understand the situation and will agree to it. They will of course try to say more, but after you say 1000 once or twice they will agree and everything is set without issue.A few girls are doing this but not all, mostly the unattractive ones, girls that doesn't get many customers, girls that just arrived who are cute but yet don't have regular customers (and cannot speak English).
I've met many girls who didn't want to negociate at all and they knew I'm not a newbie. I've had a few sessions canceled just because of that (I was ready to bring them upstairs but the fact they were firm with their prices put me off).
I feel like 1 K is not the standard price anymore, it's just the starting price. Maybe most girls are still willing to go for that price, but more than 80% of the girls in that soi are unattractive anyway, so it means nothing.
Believe me, it's getting harder to get a cuttie (young, slim, not short, nice face and a good attitude downstairs) at 1 K in soi 6. I'm not even talking about the quality of the service upstairs.
BroComplex
06-20-23, 11:56
From you tube vids 2,500 miles away they look OK. Try sitting in a Bar and look at them 2 feet away from you. OMG they just are not attractive.I agree. There are some very cute girls in soi 6 but they are extremely picky and would not fuck anyone that asks.
Explorer8939
06-20-23, 12:00
Besides the blowjob bars (Club 4 street Bong Koch 8) which are cheeap and easy at 700 for a BBBJ with not the best looking gals. Soi 6 was the best place for cute girls for a great price. Standard price is 1000 bahts for the girl and 400 bahts for the room upstairs.
I learned from this forum to stop asking the price and just assume its 1000 bahts and give her that at the end. Sometimes I gave another 200 for tip if she was great. But whenever you ask how much upfront, she will know you are a newbie and will rip you right off. Do not overpay and ruin it for everyone.
Also so you don't get tricked into buying drinks for a girl who doesn't have sex, always ask first to go upstairs. Thhen tell her to stay first for a drink.Don't do that. Always get the price before you go to the room.
BroComplex
06-20-23, 12:00
Besides the blowjob bars (Club 4 street Bong Koch 8) which are cheeap and easy at 700 for a BBBJ with not the best looking gals. Soi 6 was the best place for cute girls for a great price. Standard price is 1000 bahts for the girl and 400 bahts for the room upstairs.
I learned from this forum to stop asking the price and just assume its 1000 bahts and give her that at the end. Sometimes I gave another 200 for tip if she was great. But whenever you ask how much upfront, she will know you are a newbie and will rip you right off. Do not overpay and ruin it for everyone.
Also so you don't get tricked into buying drinks for a girl who doesn't have sex, always ask first to go upstairs. Thhen tell her to stay first for a drink.The BJ shops has the oldest and ugliest women out there if you had no problem going there your standards must be very low.
Chan Chalupa
06-20-23, 12:50
I agree. There are some very cute girls in soi 6 but they are extremely picky and would not fuck anyone that asks.I'm experiencing this. It's really Hard to get the 1% ers on Soi 6 Nekkid.
Chan Chalupa
06-20-23, 15:05
Oh Lord.
1. Showgirls Soy 6. Made a deal for 2 k. Room 400. Went to cashier Mama San,. Wanted 2,400 right then and there. I know that's not good- walked out.
2. Made another deal for 2 k at another bar. As I was fumbling around with Google Translate if I can pay at Finish she went with another for Drinks.
A peer of hers said I could pay when Finish but it was a moot point then. Hahahaha. Hahaha.
3. Girl said at another bar1,900 all in meaning for her 1,500. Mamasan comes along and says 2,400. Girl then agreed with Mamasan. Hahaha. Hahahaha. Hahaha.
4. Another said 2 k I say 1,500 she turned away fast. Hahaha.
I was surprised quite a few looked Good. All small tittie's though.
Some say Mama's are positive value. I say no way in San Jose should they get into negotiations, let a co worker of the girl do it.
2 Deals killed by Mamasan.
The BJ shops has the oldest and ugliest women out there if you had no problem going there your standards must be very low.Sometimes you just need a skilled plumber to drain your pipe.
RakSopheni
06-20-23, 16:20
The BJ shops has the oldest and ugliest women out there if you had no problem going there your standards must be very low.For selfish reasons it might be nice if this becomes the commonly held sentiment. Not sure if you've been to Bongkot recently though. I will just say people should go see for themselves.
Oh Lord.
Some say Mama's are positive value. I say no way in San Jose should they get into negotiations, let a co worker of the girl do it.
2 Deals killed by Mamasan.Why bring a co-worker in the negotiations? She will always side with the girl anyway, or worse, she might tell the girl she is killing their market by accepting so low fare.
I always negotiate directly with her (with no one staying nearby), never talk to any colleague or mamasan, and never give any information about what happens with her upstairs or any other information like prices.
These girls don't share everything with their colleagues, some of them are friends, but they are concurrent to each other first.
Mr Enternational
06-20-23, 17:29
For selfish reasons it might be nice if this becomes the commonly held sentiment. Not sure if you've been to Bongkot recently though. I will just say people should go see for themselves.Where is the line between a BJ Bar and a gentleman's club? Maybe he is thinking more along the lines of L0 litas, Telephone Bar and LE Poste and less Badabing, Club 4, and the like.
HorseTrader
06-20-23, 17:56
3. Girl said at another bar1,900 all in meaning for her 1,500. Mamasan comes along and says 2,400. Girl then agreed with Mamasan. Hahaha. Hahahaha. Hahaha.
This became a common problem for me in Samui, a cluster of about 3 bars were doing the same thing. I cut a verbal deal with girl and get ready to pay bar fine. Then mamasan (sometimes same person as bar manager and bartender) changes the deal. More money for girl. Bigger bar fine. 2 hours agreed with girl gets reduced to 45 minutes. Must buy several drinks before leaving. Cannot leave until 01:00.
Whenever I get the first change order from mamasan, I pay my bill for prior purchases and leave the bar. Sometimes the girl will try to stop me. Once in AoNang the girl followed me out the bar and came to my room.
Those bars were all tiny places where 75% of the girls were unappealing. The mamasans have been a pain in the ass. On the other hand, sometimes mamasans at go go bars with many attractive girls can make good suggestions and they earn the tips that I give.
HorseTrader
06-20-23, 18:36
The big red flag is when they declare their eternal love before you see them in the flesh.
Of course, that is Thai language asking you to financially support her, her children, parents, grandparents, siblings, nieces, nephews, and pet water buffalo.
Sometimes you just need a skilled plumber to drain your pipe.Exactly. I don't go to the BJ bars expecting tens. I go there expecting avg looking women at a cheap price. The objective is to just blow a load on the cheap and be on your way. Once in a while you may find a looker you vibe with and you get her Line. Simple as that.
Chan Chalupa
06-21-23, 00:34
Why bring a co-worker in the negotiations? She will always side with the girl anyway, or worse, she might tell the girl she is killing their market by accepting so low fare.
I always negotiate directly with her (with no one staying nearby), never talk to any colleague or mamasan, and never give any information about what happens with her upstairs or any other information like prices.
These girls don't share everything with their colleagues, some of them are friends, but they are concurrent to each other first.I got the feeling the girl I wanted wasn't all that Proficient in English.
After Striking out left and right on the siy6 I went to Walk St.
Palace Agogo has it's fair share of bad boob jobs. The difference here compared to Peppermint girls bad boobs is Palce Sillycones are attached to some nice Faces.
Tantra girl quoted 2,500 barfine and 3,000 to her. Funny thing she said no have short time room nearby. She also said she on one day contract so she just might not have known. Weird.
Palace Agogo bill for one Farang was $500. Ez to see as he counted diligenty as he paid. 15 1 k baht Bills.
I wonder what rent is at Palace vs Tantra.
Palace could handle $50,000 a month. Tantra Three fiddy,. Haha. I haven't a clue. Maybe some one know.
Per stick those small bars on Buakhao area pay $600-700.
Explorer8939
06-21-23, 01:21
The rule of thumb is if the lady shows up late, you are going to have a bad session, at best, it will be rushed.
So I was expecting the worst last night when the lady came 30 minutes late.
But after a few shots of tequila, she was as hot as a firecracker, and quickly went into ball sucking mode (fortunately no ball biting, but it was close). Since I was lying on the sofa, she took adantage by climbing onto my face for pussy licking. Except, she wanted it hard, so it was pussy pounding my face. So, I used my chin, which seemed to work, but after 5 minutes, my head and neck were really strained.
So we went to bed, where she pounded me until exhaustion, and then proceeded to cry. And cry. No idea what she was going on about.
Since it was still early, I secured some sleeping pills and gave them to her. And then rubbed her pussy, which revived her, and went for another round of ball sucking and then pounding me. I patiently waited for the sleeping pills to kick in, and eventually she pitched over and fell asleep.
I never came, but that's another topic.
Explorer8939
06-21-23, 01:25
Concerning condom use, one thing I have to consider is the ladies know where I live. So. Last night's lady has almost zero customers, so if I got her preggers, that would be a gold mine for her.
Even if she got pregnant from her Thai boyfriend, if I came inside her, there would be trouble.
You guys who come to Pattaya for 2 weeks don't have to consider the consequences.
I always tell my Wife it is a Golfing destination. Lots of golfers go to Pattaya.
When you return home does she ask you if you had fun with your club and balls?LOL. And then he says: yes, much more than here at home.
RakSopheni
06-21-23, 04:54
Where is the line between a BJ Bar and a gentleman's club? Maybe he is thinking more along the lines of L0 litas, Telephone Bar and LE Poste and less Badabing, Club 4, and the like.If this is what the OP meant I would agree. Purple and Badabing are not in the same category as Lolita's etc.
Chan Chalupa
06-21-23, 14:39
Got 1.
1,500. Not exactly my Preferred Type but she was fine for what I paid.
Price Matters.
Explorer8939
06-21-23, 18:17
I have a bargirl from Ban Chang visiting me, and so today I took her to some bars for possible employment.
Two things I noticed:
All the bars were interested in hiring her, and.
None had any customers.
Chan Chalupa
06-22-23, 00:44
I have a bargirl from Ban Chang visiting me, and so today I took her to some bars for possible employment.
Two things I noticed:
All the bars were interested in hiring her, and.
None had any customers.I know you like them More Mature with 20 year old sons. I'm hearing Palace is Hiring. They have a few Muglies on staff. No offense.
LittleBigMan
06-22-23, 05:54
Pretty tough for anyone new in particular not to know about short-time rooms. If she can be bar fined then she knows tugged between Palace, Atlantis, and Tantra is if not the only main short-time facility on W. S. Is Sweethearts from Tantra walk out make a right and another quick right. Although the walkway seems closed and empty where the Happy group used to dominate the entire walkway with Happy, the Beach Club and the Saka bar also ran Oasis a short time room upstairs from the walkway, it was a gold mine, girls from Peppermint, Beach, Bacarra, Happy took their ST customer their kick back the girls got 50 baht for using the facilities. Along the side of Pin Up you walk back that alley is a cheap hotel maybe a 3 star you could get a room all night for 650, I've used it a few times when I got caught in a heavy rain storm and unable to leave the area due to the flooding and unable to get my motorbike out.
The rent pre-covid for a place like Tantra is well over 100,000 per month, and that doesn't include the key money t needs to be put up just to be able to rent. Memory going I remember talking to the owner of Tequila Reef on Soi 7, that he was closing, the rent per month was over 100,000 baht, and the cost to renew the contract was 1 million that money doesn't come back the amount lost to me because first thinking how many damn tacos they got to sell LOL? Talking to the manager of Bacarra precovid it was mentioned something like 500,000 baht operating cost per month. Instead of looking at the girls I'm sitting there looking at the lineup board with nearly a hundred names beginning of the night then the BF was 800 baht, and girls on monthly contract showgirls were like 16,000 baht. I'm sitting there trying to do the math as to how many customers in the place upstairs and downstairs average spending crazy.
I knew this Thai guy and his wife they purchased this restaurant on Soi Lengkee off Baukhao and told me how much they paid for the restaurant business and what their rent was per month a shop house front two stories was 45,000 baht, First they overpaid for a failing business already the Brit who sold it to them was a crook and cooked the books as if they were making money. It took them less than a year to close. I didn't have the heart to tell them cause if they knew we would have another Brit off the balcony story.
When it comes to bareback, I always try to strap up but I've been caught a few times letting my guard down years ago on the Darkside I caught fire with this older one who looked much younger we hit it off like wild rabbits we became friends and whenever she didn't have customers I get a call one day she said she wanted me to come to her place that she wasn't feeling well. So visiting she told me she just had an abortion and that she can't work for the rest of the month could I help her out? Now I was sitting there why is this woman telling me because I'm the father I was also jumping with joy inside that at her age she had the sense to get an abortion I never brought up the question why are you telling me this do you think it is LBM nevertheless I gave her 5000 baht to help her out with the rent and food.
After that incident, since I can't fathom the thought of getting snipped I've had my sperm count checked it is too low but you never know if one fucker gets happy and swims the distance? Unless I know the girl well and she confirms she has her tubes tied I cover up and they never know where I live. Unfortunately living here I got a few up my sleeve two that work at Gogos who had their tubes tied that we hit it up outside of the clubs.
Explorer8939
06-22-23, 06:38
If you do an overnighter with a bargirl, if she wants to leave ridiculously early, its because she has a Thai boyfriend waiting for her.
But sometimes you get one who is single and horny, and they don't want to leave, at least not until they get another round in the morning. I had a lady last night do multiple rounds, in between sleeping, and when she finally got out of bed, she was clearly ready for yet another round.
But I had another lady coming in the afternoon, so I wasn't up for yet another round. I handed her some cash, that didn't work, she still wouldn't go. Even though she had to go back to Ban Chang by 13.00. It appeared that I was going to have to give her another round, but then I tried Bargirl Repellent, IE Yes videos. A couple of those and she was out the door.
Banana Boi
06-22-23, 06:44
I have a bargirl from Ban Chang visiting me, and so today I took her to some bars for possible employment.
Two things I noticed:
All the bars were interested in hiring her, and.
None had any customers.What's the current pay bars were offering her to work? Gogo? Beer bars? BJ bars?
Explorer8939
06-22-23, 07:47
What's the current pay bars were offering her to work? Gogo? Beer bars? BJ bars?We only went to Gentlemens' clubs, and the employment discussions were in Thai.
What's the current pay bars were offering her to work? Gogo? Beer bars? BJ bars?They probably hire her as a freelancer so there is no loss for them.
Explorer8939
06-22-23, 10:44
I've got 3 days coming up with a civvie from Khon Kaen, and then 3 days with a civvie from Sa Kaeo.
Both have given me their LINE, but not their Facebook. But, Facebook is pretty smart and sends me possible friends. In this case, not the ladies, but their Thai husbands' Facebook contacts.
I guess it will be "don't ask, don't tell".
..... I've had my sperm count checked it is too low but you never know.....Robert De Niro became a father at 79, Al Pacino is expecting his fourth child at 83.
Would you recommend visiting Bangkok for a day or two just for variety and exploring other stuff to do, or does pattaya and its vicinity basically cover most of that? Mainly of course looking for bars, chicks and fun.
HorseTrader
06-22-23, 21:54
Would you recommend visiting Bangkok for a day or two just for variety and exploring other stuff to do, or does pattaya and its vicinity basically cover most of that? Mainly of course looking for bars, chicks and fun.Bangkok has a completely different feel than Pattaya, so I suggest you spend some time in Bangkok. Recommend you stay within a short walk of Sukhumvit between about Soi 4 and Soi 19.
Would you recommend visiting Bangkok for a day or two just for variety and exploring other stuff to do, or does pattaya and its vicinity basically cover most of that? Mainly of course looking for bars, chicks and fun.Bangkok and Pattaya are two completely different worlds. If you've never been to Thailand you should certainly spend time in Bangkok.
LittleBigMan
06-23-23, 01:03
Robert De Niro became a father at 79, Al Pacino is expecting his fourth child at 83.Yea, THE GODFATHERS! LOL,
Chan Chalupa
06-23-23, 01:26
Would you recommend visiting Bangkok for a day or two just for variety and exploring other stuff to do, or does pattaya and its vicinity basically cover most of that? Mainly of course looking for bars, chicks and fun.As you stated a Main Goal.
No doubt in my mind Pattaya Bro.
Chan Chalupa
06-23-23, 01:28
If you do an overnighter with a bargirl, if she wants to leave ridiculously early, its because she has a Thai boyfriend waiting for her.
But sometimes you get one who is single and horny, and they don't want to leave, at least not until they get another round in the morning. I had a lady last night do multiple rounds, in between sleeping, and when she finally got out of bed, she was clearly ready for yet another round.
But I had another lady coming in the afternoon, so I wasn't up for yet another round. I handed her some cash, that didn't work, she still wouldn't go. Even though she had to go back to Ban Chang by 13.00. It appeared that I was going to have to give her another round, but then I tried Bargirl Repellent, IE Yes videos. A couple of those and she was out the door.Nothing to do with Customer just not that enjoyable to be with. Just asking.
Chan Chalupa
06-23-23, 01:35
Anyone get a 30 day extension of a visa exempt recently. Jometiem Immigration. Am I looking at one hour in and out?
Explorer8939
06-23-23, 02:02
I know you like them More Mature with 20 year old sons. I'm hearing Palace is Hiring. They have a few Muglies on staff. No offense.Actually, there are different types of ladies in my rotation, some in their 20's, some in their 30's, in their 40's, and 2 that have hit 50. I like to change them up.
Some of the ladies remain popular in Low Season, sometimes cancelling because they secured a customer at the last minute. Last night's lady told me at the end of her shift that she had gotten 10 drinks from a customer. I told her to go with him, not come to my condo. Partially because she was probably too drunk to be fun for me, I let her customer deal with her.
Explorer8939
06-23-23, 02:36
I ran into a bargirl who was sporting a bandage on her forehead. She said there was a fight in her bar the night before. Apparently, a customer came in and ran up a huge bill before refusing to pay. A melee ensued, but the customer was accompanied by a ladyboy, who beat the crap out of the bargirls.
Yea, THE GODFATHERS! LOL,I believe they are both of Italian ancestry so if you do not want to be a father avoid the spaghetti. LOL.
I ran into a bargirl who was sporting a bandage on her forehead. She said there was a fight in her bar the night before. Apparently, a customer came in and ran up a huge bill before refusing to pay. A melee ensued, but the customer was accompanied by a ladyboy, who beat the crap out of the bargirls.Only in Thailand hehe!
Explorer8939
06-23-23, 18:20
Nothing to do with Customer just not that enjoyable to be with. Just asking.Snide comments are mot helpful.
Many mongers here know about the Key trick, where the lady announces after boom-boom that her roommate doesn't have a key to their room, and so your Long Time barfine must leave early. Typically this happens after the bars close, so it's not as if the lady wants to go back to her bar, she wants to go sleep with her Thai man.
Not everything is about the customer.
Explorer8939
06-23-23, 18:30
Nightmare.
I had a rather pleasant MILF come over for drinks, but she got naked after the first drink. That should have been a red flag.
But I let things get out of hand, and it quickly devolved into a fuck marathon, where she wouldn't stop until she came, and she couldn't come. I felt like a rag doll in the mouth of a wild dog. Between her pounding me, and then both of us passing out, we lost 4 hours.
I long for a lady who will let me cum quickly, but no, I scheduled another monster for tomorrow afternoon. This is the one where I promised I wouldn't drink so much, and I would fuck her ass. Maybe she will cancel if I am lucky.
One note for the condom guys, when the lady was about to start, she asked about a condom. I told her that I had some, but when I rolled over to get one, the lady jumped me and fucked me bareback.
Chan Chalupa
06-24-23, 01:22
I ran into a bargirl who was sporting a bandage on her forehead. She said there was a fight in her bar the night before. Apparently, a customer came in and ran up a huge bill before refusing to pay. A melee ensued, but the customer was accompanied by a ladyboy, who beat the crap out of the bargirls.Usually Security does the Beating. Not the customers companion. Not paying Tab is the ultimate Bar Crime.
This should be on ASEAN News now soon.
RakSopheni
06-24-23, 01:44
Snide comments are mot helpful.
Many mongers here know about the Key trick, where the lady announces after boom-boom that her roommate doesn't have a key to their room, and so your Long Time barfine must leave early. Typically this happens after the bars close, so it's not as if the lady wants to go back to her bar, she wants to go sleep with her Thai man.
Not everything is about the customer.I had an LT who's roommate needed the key. She expertly rang up a bolt and had a moto deliver it to her and then resumed our date.
Mr Enternational
06-24-23, 02:11
I had an LT who's roommate needed the key. She expertly rang up a bolt and had a moto deliver it to her and then resumed our date.I pointed out several times before that it was not the bullshit that people are making it out to be. Earlier this month I even volunteered to go make the extra key myself and the girl was like that is okay because I am going to move soon anyway. I told her how the fuck am I one person and have 3 keys to my place, but you are two people and only have one key. A big inconvenience that is easily remedied, but they choose not to bother with it.
Explorer8939
06-24-23, 03:26
I had an LT who's roommate needed the key. She expertly rang up a bolt and had a moto deliver it to her and then resumed our date.As a public service, I am posting the cure for the Key Trick:
Since the lady is being paid for Long Time, tell the lady you will pay her after she comes back from unlocking the door.
Note that I am usually happy to see them go at 1 am.
Explorer8939
06-24-23, 03:33
I had a lady practically beg me to have her come to my place today at 13.00. But in checking Messenger, I noticed that she signed off at 06.00 this morning, ie she did an allnighter. That means she is unlikely to show up. Plus, I forgot to remind her yesterday.
Fortunately, I have a backup lady, but she is flaky, as well. So, I might end up at a bar today. In Pattaya, it's good to have a Plan be and Plan see.
LittleBigMan
06-24-23, 04:03
Let me add. I've said many times what standards we are brought up with in the West many times it just doesn't exist even to our low standards.
It might seem standard to make extra keys. I remember our house never thought about it because I just assume she left the key inside lucky I was with her and just arrived from the States. Thereafter I got some extras and put them in good hiding spots.
Keys is just one aspect there are many common sense things that no one has ever taught them why because there really is no one to actually teach them and if you do try as a foreigner they will look down and be embarrassed. When it comes to keys there are times it is just an excuse but there is a huge chance they don't want to spend the 60-70 or leave an extra deposit to make one. There are many comments on other boards about Thai drivers' motorbikes not having their rear lights on at night I've found many don't even check they wait until it is pointed out even then they aren't going to kick out 60 baht for a bulb. Sixty baht gets you 2 pieces of chicken sticky rice which is huge.
Just yesterday, my daughter in law a classic Thai upbringing helmet that has been sitting in one spot for nearly a year, I finally ask my son what is wrong with it shield was broken, so while at Big see, I pick one up for 95 baht, I fixed it and was planning to wear it myself this morning gone leave me another helmet to fix. Being proactive isn't in their DNA, My truck which I gave to my son, in the back is a plastic box with all the necessary stuff in case of some emergency when putting it together they shook their heads as to why first they could never afford to do it without me. A few months back heading up north during Songkran a flat I pulled over instead of placing a tree branch to warn cars I saw the problem and told them to get away from the truck I put out orange cones, behind the truck with the hood up. Layout a mat under the rear tire got out a repair kit from DIY for 45 baht, pulled the nail out, insert the wax waited, and inflated with the 650 baht air unit on done in 30 minutes. These are examples of why many realize the way they think is backward.
I pointed out several times before that it was not the bullshit that people are making it out to be. Earlier this month I even volunteered to go make the extra key myself and the girl was like that is okay because I am going to move soon anyway. I told her how the fuck am I one person and have 3 keys to my place, but you are two people and only have one key. A big inconvenience that is easily remedied, but they choose not to bother with it.Pretty much the same in Philippine. I knew a bar girl that dropped her key off to her working brother at 5 pm everyday before her duty at 6 pm. She only did ST to be back home at 2 am for her brother to open the door.
One day I was at the SM Mall and saw a Mr. Fix It store. They did all kinds of household goods repair. As I walked by I noticed a key making machine and inquired about the cost. Less than 50 pesos ($1. 00). I told her about it and I could get her a duplicate key. She about freaked out and was scared about trouble or backlashes from the landlord! She would not get a duplicate key. Wtf! We just don't understand this.
Mr Enternational
06-24-23, 04:32
there is a huge chance they don't want to spend the 60-70 or leave an extra deposit to make one.LOL. They rather pay the grab guy 40 baht everyday to run the one key back and forth than to just make an extra key for 60 baht.
Explorer8939
06-24-23, 07:00
We've all heard stories about bargirls claiming to be the girlfriend after a couple of barfines. They are easy to shake off, but sometimes customers go crazy over bargirls.
The most common form of crazy is trying to control a bargirl you give money to. That can be exemplified by constant messaging, trying to figure out if she has other customers or a Thai man. But that can lead to stalking. Which is crazy bad.
Best to loosen up over a bargirl, and let her do what she wants when you are not with her.
And never pay a bargirl when you are not with her.
And never pay a bargirl when you are not with her.What's your thinking on bargirls that get real drunk and want sex that you don't want? Can it be better to just pay them so they go away? I see you tend to go for that type a lot.
MartinFlevo
06-24-23, 19:46
From what I hear and see. Seems to be very very quiet in Pattaya right now. To the level that Pacha closed the doors earlier on this saturdaynight because they simply didn't had customers.
Someone on the ground there and have more info? Is it really that bad? Compare to June 2022?
From what I hear and see. Seems to be very very quiet in Pattaya right now. To the level that Pacha closed the doors earlier on this saturdaynight because they simply didn't had customers.
Someone on the ground there and have more info? Is it really that bad? Compare to June 2022?Not bad but quiet.
Last nights the music volume of the various bars was pretty low, especially in pothole.
The usual suspects were crowded as usual.
Lengkee at midnight had few places still open, more towards buakhow.
LK METRO and Diana bars were pumping music as if no tomorrow. Some busy, some zero.
The heat probably prevents people to travel to here, although flights are pretty much full.
Wednesday afternoon the airport car park was full.
What's your thinking on bargirls that get real drunk and want sex that you don't want? Can it be better to just pay them so they go away? I see you tend to go for that type a lot.Generally, if I've been with a girl and buying her drinks for a while, but don't opt to bar fine her, I will give her money; 200 - 500 baht for her time. Depends on how much time is spent with her. This ensures that there isn't a scene. That said, I wouldn't do that then take up with another girl in the same bar. Remember; for the bar girls, time is money. Not all may agree with this method, but that's what I do.
Mr Enternational
06-24-23, 20:45
Generally, if I've been with a girl and buying her drinks for a while, but don't opt to bar fine her, I will give her money; 200 - 500 baht for her time. Depends on how much time is spent with her. This ensures that there isn't a scene. That said, I wouldn't do that then take up with another girl in the same bar. Remember; for the bar girls, time is money. Not all may agree with this method, but that's what I do.Well if you have been buying her drinks the whole time, there is the money for her time. Why would they make a scene? You have been spending money on them the entire time. They do not give a care about you taking another chick. Time is money? Well if she was not sitting there with you, she would just be sitting in another seat talking to one of her coworkers. She is not doing you any favors that must be repaid. If you were at your local bar having a conversation with the waitress or bartender, would you feel that you have taken up their time, especially after having bought them a round or 2?
What's your thinking on bargirls that get real drunk and want sex that you don't want? Can it be better to just pay them so they go away? I see you tend to go for that type a lot.Not always a bad thing.
I knew a girl in PH who was typically gay for pay when sober. When drunk, her pussy was off limits to me and her girlfriend and she demanded anal. Refusal was not an option
Go figure. G.
Explorer8939
06-25-23, 00:50
What's your thinking on bargirls that get real drunk and want sex that you don't want? Can it be better to just pay them so they go away? I see you tend to go for that type a lot.You lost the plot. My point was addressed to those lonely guys who send money to bargirls.
As for drunk bargirls, yeah, I am the customer, so if a bargirl wants to fuck forever, it does present a problem. The lady who came in the daytime was one of those, so I scheduled her to come before she had to work. Which meant she only had an hour for actual fucking. She gave me the choice between finishing in her pussy or her ass.
The nighttime lady was more my style, she was okay if I finished quickly and fell asleep, as long as I gave her a decent pussy licking before.
Explorer8939
06-25-23, 00:54
From what I hear and see. Seems to be very very quiet in Pattaya right now. To the level that Pacha closed the doors earlier on this saturdaynight because they simply didn't had customers.
Someone on the ground there and have more info? Is it really that bad? Compare to June 2022?June 2022 was very slow due to Covid. It's slow now, but only compared to High Season.
Also, not many ladies in Pattaya last year, now it's flooded.
Chan Chalupa
06-25-23, 01:44
From what I hear and see. Seems to be very very quiet in Pattaya right now. To the level that Pacha closed the doors earlier on this saturdaynight because they simply didn't had customers.
Yes it's that Bad. Not only in Pattaya though.
Check the Tourist statistics. It's not even close to 2019 numbers.
Someone on the ground there and have more info? Is it really that bad? Compare to June 2022?YES it's that bad. The 2nd and 3rd tier bars have to be in Damage Control.
Pretty much the same in Philippine. I knew a bar girl that dropped her key off to her working brother at 5 pm everyday before her duty at 6 pm. She only did ST to be back home at 2 am for her brother to open the door.
One day I was at the SM Mall and saw a Mr. Fix It store. They did all kinds of household goods repair. As I walked by I noticed a key making machine and inquired about the cost. Less than 50 pesos ($1. 00). I told her about it and I could get her a duplicate key. She about freaked out and was scared about trouble or backlashes from the landlord! She would not get a duplicate key. Wtf! We just don't understand this.A girl once told me that her landlord didn't allow duplicate keys, because it would mean he has to change the lock when she moves out. As long as he can be sure there's only one key, he doesn't have to change the lock.
Chan Chalupa
06-25-23, 07:00
Well if you have been buying her drinks the whole time, there is the money for her time. Why would they make a scene? You have been spending money on them the entire time. They do not give a care about you taking another chick. Time is money? Well if she was not sitting there with you, she would just be sitting in another seat talking to one of her coworkers. She is not doing you any favors that must be repaid. If you were at your local bar having a conversation with the waitress or bartender, would you feel that you have taken up their time, especially after having bought them a round or 2?Context.
If 1 drink every 20 minutes with feeling her up yes 500 baht extra is appropro.
If 1 drink every 5 minutes with no touching then 500 might be a bit overboard.
Guys. Have a Heart be more like Explorer the girls appreciate it. Hahaha.
A girl once told me that her landlord didn't allow duplicate keys, because it would mean he has to change the lock when she moves out. As long as he can be sure there's only one key, he doesn't have to change the lock.That sounds about right.
Generally, if I've been with a girl and buying her drinks for a while, but don't opt to bar fine her, I will give her money; 200 - 500 baht for her time. Depends on how much time is spent with her. This ensures that there isn't a scene. That said, I wouldn't do that then take up with another girl in the same bar. Remember; for the bar girls, time is money. Not all may agree with this method, but that's what I do.I for one would precisely NOT give her money if I had been buying her drinks only. Buying drinks is what girls want you to do all the time. Some girls even don't want anything else but drinks. Things might be different if you sit with her for a long time while buying her just one cheap drink.
A girl once told me that her landlord didn't allow duplicate keys, because it would mean he has to change the lock when she moves out. As long as he can be sure there's only one key, he doesn't have to change the lock.How does the landlord know the key has been duplicated? If two live in the same flat it's pretty normal each one has a key.
Landlord can deliver two sets of keys and if one is missing at the end of the contract he can keep the deposit to pay for a new lock. He'd put a clause in the rental agreement.
Got into the hotel about 8:00 and showered for my first venture out into the wild that is Pattaya. I'm not much of a go go kind of guy, but had identified a couple of G Clubs that interested me. Took a motorbike taxi to MClub and was happy to see a few of the girls on their IG page were working that night. I was one of about 5-6 customers and about 8-10 ladies. LDs are $150, and my drink was $130. The girl I really wanted to chat up was busy at the bar, but I as suitable alternate sat and we chatted and I bought her a couple of drinks. I got a tour around and asked some question about how things operated. Their "private party rooms" consist of a couple of sectional couch like places that you can pull privacy curtains around, $300 B per hour. Can get anything short of intercourse in that area. Prices for the service from $500-700 B. Going to a real ST room was 600 B, because it is in a hotel next door. ST for the lady is 1500, but I suspect is open for discussions. The three hottest girls in the bar were the Manager, the Mama, and the girl I wanted who is really a cashier / bartender, but she can sit for drinks and do ST. I never got the chance to chat with her. I enjoyed the setting and the time there, but the two girls I was really interested in never came available. I left but will go back again. Got a motorbike back near my hotel, but was disoriented as to exactly where I was. The clubs I passed were not full of either ladies or customers. I know people are saying the quality had gone down, but I have nothing to compare since its my first visit. I saw only a few really pretty girls, but a LOT of GND Thai style and a fair share of ones easy to say no to. My sweet spot is late 20's-early 30's so I am not really into the very young ones.
Walked down Beach Road, and the numbers were there, but very average with a few ones worth consideration. The best looking of course are the LB's, but not on my radar and I always ask just in case. Did find a petit little firecracker in short shorts that agreed to 1000 B ST. She was enthusiastic in the sack and liked being dogged in front of the mirror after taking most of what I have to offer fully into those perfect lipstick covered lips. The only down side was the only time she stopped talking was with my dick in her mouth or face down in the pillow. I used both to my advantage. Fun first night and I will admit that I like it better so far than my last few trips to BKK.
Mr Enternational
06-25-23, 12:48
How does the landlord know the key has been duplicated? If two live in the same flat it's pretty normal each one has a key. Landlord can deliver two sets of keys and if one is missing at the end of the contract he can keep the deposit to pay for a new lock. He'd put a clause in the rental agreement.Usually it is only 1 person's name on the rental agreement, hence one key. One person gets the place then friends start to move in. One girl I met in March knew a girl from seeing her around in Bahrain. She got the place in Pattaya and ran into the girl. She let the girl stay a few nights because she lives far (Rayong), but the girl eventually settled in with all her stuff without permission. I guess the girl was too shy to tell her that you can not stay here forever.
How does the landlord know the key has been duplicated? If two live in the same flat it's pretty normal each one has a key.
Landlord can deliver two sets of keys and if one is missing at the end of the contract he can keep the deposit to pay for a new lock. He'd put a clause in the rental agreement.That western logic does not prevail in some countries.
Landlords do not know if the key has been duplicated. Some tenants do not know the landlord doesn't know. Most tenants are too scared of getting caught. Most landlords live on the premise and might see the tenant using a duplicated key. Most mom and pop landlords are pretty nosy.
Well if you have been buying her drinks the whole time, there is the money for her time. Why would they make a scene? You have been spending money on them the entire time. They do not give a care about you taking another chick. Time is money? Well if she was not sitting there with you, she would just be sitting in another seat talking to one of her coworkers. She is not doing you any favors that must be repaid. If you were at your local bar having a conversation with the waitress or bartender, would you feel that you have taken up their time, especially after having bought them a round or 2?I'm talking about a girl who you have been plying with drinks and she may have the impression that you will bar fine her. Again, to each his own. Everyone has the "right" opinion.
Hi guys, this will be my first visit to Pattaya next week. I want to know which massage saloon can offer me best massage and sex. Also I like going out, have a drink and catch a girl.
Dors anyone have advice for me about massage saloons and bars for girl? Thanks a lot.
Explorer8939
06-25-23, 14:40
What's your thinking on bargirls that get real drunk and want sex that you don't want? Can it be better to just pay them so they go away? I see you tend to go for that type a lot.Hello. I like sex. The problem comes from bargirls who are not satisfied by 3 minute quickies.
If I wanted marathon sex, I would have a horny girlfriend.
If I am paying money, why do I have to service the bargirl?
HorseTrader
06-25-23, 18:19
If I am paying money, why do I have to service the bargirl?You don't! You are one of the few punters who is worried about this. If I'm with a girlfriend, I'll do my best to make her feel good. If I'm with a hooker, I primarily worry about me, her pleasure is secondary.
I’ve seldom, maybe never, been in a situation where a hooker truly wanted the sex. I think the reason they push sex is to get the job finished. That’s fine with me.
MohdirFan82
06-25-23, 18:30
In Pattaya, you don't need to know much where to find sex.
As long as your pocket is full, the sex will find you.
Hint hint: go to beach road, Soi 6, Walking street after 5 pm, and Soi Buakhou, another hint buddy: if you see pretty girls sitting outside of massage parlor, they all will service you enjoy.
Hi guys, this will be my first visit to Pattaya next week. I want to know which massage saloon can offer me best massage and sex. Also I like going out, have a drink and catch a girl.
Dors anyone have advice for me about massage saloons and bars for girl? Thanks a lot.
Hello. I like sex. The problem comes from bargirls who are not satisfied by 3 minute quickies.
If I wanted marathon sex, I would have a horny girlfriend.
If I am paying money, why do I have to service the bargirl?Bargirls are not working in bars to find guys who can satisfy them. It is a job. They are working to make money. If you are working, would you rather work for 3 minutes or 1 hour if you got paid the same? They have young fit boyfriends to satisfy their needs. You are just a means to an end.
MongerHunger
06-25-23, 19:29
Dors anyone have advice for me about massage saloons and bars for girl? Thanks a lot.Advice: Read the Fuggin Forum.
Took a motorbike taxi to MCLUB and was happy to see a few of the girls on their IG page were working that night. . . . I enjoyed the setting and the time there, but the two girls I was really interested in never came available. I left but will go back again. . . . Got a motorbike back near my hotel, but was disoriented as to exactly where I was. . . . Walked down Beach Road, and found a petite little firecracker in short shorts that agreed to 1000 B ST. . . . Fun first night and I will admit that I like it better so far than my last few trips to BKK.For others planning a first visit to Pattaya, this is how to prepare. Read the forum traffic going back several months. Ask intelligent questions (in this gent's case, about lodging). And when you finally arrive give back to the group by doing a report. I hope Mr. Ryder will continue to write about his holiday. It sounds like he's off to a good start.
Bunky
P.S. Motorbike taxis are great for point-to-point transport. But they're a bit like the Star Trek "transporter." You get where you're going, but have no clue how you got there. That's why I've long recommended that all first timers buy and old-fashioned map to study before the trip and to use upon arrival to plan their days and nights. At the very least, spend some time in front of your laptop on on your phone looking at Google maps and getting the lay of the land.
Explorer8939
06-26-23, 02:06
You don't! You are one of the few punters who is worried about this. If I'm with a girlfriend, I'll do my best to make her feel good. If I'm with a hooker, I primarily worry about me, her pleasure is secondary.
Ive seldom, maybe never, been in a situation where a hooker truly wanted the sex. I think the reason they push sex is to get the job finished. Thats fine with me.Everything you write is true, but what do you do when the lady asks you not to stop for "5 minutes more", for 2 hours?
Its not uncommon for a lady to see me when she's on holiday, so time is not a factor for her.
I was lucky with the last one, she did have to go to work, so only had an hour. And at the end told me I could cum in her pussy or her ass, up to me.
I don't understand much at all of why you do what you do. You complain about drunk women but continuously have them come to your place. You complain about the sex you pay for but continually have sex you complain about. At least 5 of your posts next week will be about some drunk woman you barfined or some woman that you had sex with that you didn't enjoy.
Hello. I like sex. The problem comes from bargirls who are not satisfied by 3 minute quickies.
If I wanted marathon sex, I would have a horny girlfriend.
If I am paying money, why do I have to service the bargirl?
Chan Chalupa
06-26-23, 02:45
I don't understand much at all of why you do what you do. You complain about drunk women but continuously have them come to your place. You complain about the sex you pay for but continually have sex you complain about. At least 5 of your posts next week will be about some drunk woman you barfined or some woman that you had sex with that you didn't enjoy.Not to pile on but Hahahaha. No offense.
It would add more colour if he at least gives a little description of his barfine. Is it the 50 year old 200 pounder or the 50 kilo 20 year old.
P.S. He is against guys sending money from Norway. But in a way he is wasting his money too. Or so it seems to me.
I don't understand much at all of why you do what you do. You complain about drunk women but continuously have them come to your place. You complain about the sex you pay for but continually have sex you complain about. At least 5 of your posts next week will be about some drunk woman you barfined or some woman that you had sex with that you didn't enjoy.More a nut case than anything else.
Not even useful infos. Waste of bandwidth.
Hi guys, this will be my first visit to Pattaya next week. I want to know which massage saloon can offer me best massage and sex. Also I like going out, have a drink and catch a girl.
Dors anyone have advice for me about massage saloons and bars for girl? Thanks a lot.There are zillions of MP in Pattaya, one every 3rd-4th shop in any given street.
Once you hit the ground you will see what I mean.
Following individual recommendations is tricky as each one has his own, girls are ever changing, those reported 3-4 months ago might be elsewhere.
Explorer8939
06-26-23, 05:09
I don't understand much at all of why you do what you do. You complain about drunk women but continuously have them come to your place. You complain about the sex you pay for but continually have sex you complain about. At least 5 of your posts next week will be about some drunk woman you barfined or some woman that you had sex with that you didn't enjoy.As noted before, I am posting about the exceptions. The vast majority can do normal sessions, and if I finish in 3 minutes, they are happy.
But, if you barfine enough ladies, you may run into the same type. A lady who wants to cum, but cannot. The ladies complain about old guys who can't finish, but don't want to stop trying. Same same.
Explorer8939
06-26-23, 05:12
You don't! You are one of the few punters who is worried about this. If I'm with a girlfriend, I'll do my best to make her feel good. If I'm with a hooker, I primarily worry about me, her pleasure is secondary.
Ive seldom, maybe never, been in a situation where a hooker truly wanted the sex. I think the reason they push sex is to get the job finished. Thats fine with me.In theory, you are correct.
In practice, when some bargirl is pounding you in Cowboy and won't stop, your theory goes out the window.
And yes, girlfriends are a different matter.
Explorer8939
06-26-23, 05:13
For others planning a first visit to Pattaya, this is how to prepare. Read the forum traffic going back several months. Ask intelligent questions (in this gent's case, about lodging). And when you finally arrive give back to the group by doing a report. I hope Mr. Ryder will continue to write about his holiday. It sounds like he's off to a good start.
Bunky
P.S. Motorbike taxis are great for point-to-point transport. But they're a bit like the Star Trek "transporter." You get where you're going, but have no clue how you got there. That's why I've long recommended that all first timers buy and old-fashioned map to study before the trip and to use upon arrival to plan their days and nights. At the very least, spend some time in front of your laptop on on your phone looking at Google maps and getting the lay of the land.I highly recommend installing the Bolt app for cheap taxis.
Motorcycle taxis are death traps.
Explorer8939
06-26-23, 05:16
Context.
If 1 drink every 20 minutes with feeling her up yes 500 baht extra is appropro.
If 1 drink every 5 minutes with no touching then 500 might be a bit overboard.
Guys. Have a Heart be more like Explorer the girls appreciate it. Hahaha.Before Covid, I wpuld tip the ladies 500 baht just drinks in the bar, if they got naked and gave a good performance. Then, I got my own condo, and you know the rest of the story.
So, yeah, the number of drinks that I buy in bars has gone way down.
HorseTrader
06-26-23, 07:02
.what do you do when the lady asks you not to stop for "5 minutes more", for 2 hours?That's happened to me only 1 time in my decades of P4P experience, and it was closer to 20 minutes than 2 hours. No way could I go 2 hours.
My case was about 8 to 12 years ago in Tijuana and the girl kept saying "You no finish, me finish first." About 20 minutes into the session she seemed to finish, at least she pissed all over me and the bed. I had finished about the same time so I got up, took a shower, and got dressed. Meanwhile, she continued to masturbate for the longest time. Eventually, I sat on the edge of the bed, fully clothed, watching her masturbate. Finally she finished and pissed about 100 ML high into the air, if not for my catlike reactions, I would have been wearing urine soaked clothes for the rest of the day. My only regret from that session was that I didnt take a picture of the wet sheets after she finished.
So, that's my response to P4P girl insisting on more sex. If I could maintain an erection for 2 hours, I would likely die of heart attack somewhere around the 30-60 minute mark.
Explorer8939
06-26-23, 12:58
That's happened to me only 1 time in my decades of P4P experience, and it was closer to 20 minutes than 2 hours. No way could I go 2 hours.
My case was about 8 to 12 years ago in Tijuana and the girl kept saying "You no finish, me finish first." About 20 minutes into the session she seemed to finish, at least she pissed all over me and the bed. I had finished about the same time so I got up, took a shower, and got dressed. Meanwhile, she continued to masturbate for the longest time. Eventually, I sat on the edge of the bed, fully clothed, watching her masturbate. Finally she finished and pissed about 100 ML high into the air, if not for my catlike reactions, I would have been wearing urine soaked clothes for the rest of the day. My only regret from that session was that I didnt take a picture of the wet sheets after she finished.
So, that's my response to P4P girl insisting on more sex. If I could maintain an erection for 2 hours, I would likely die of heart attack somewhere around the 30-60 minute mark.Unless you are 100% sure it was urine, she could have been a squirter, in which case, water comes out from her Bartholin glands.
I have had a couple come in my mouth, high pressure. It seems the pressure slackens as they get older.
But, contrary to popular opinion, squirting doesn't mean they cum, its more like pre cum.
Banana Boi
06-26-23, 13:34
Context.
If 1 drink every 20 minutes with feeling her up yes 500 baht extra is appropro.
If 1 drink every 5 minutes with no touching then 500 might be a bit overboard.Let me understand. You buy a gogo girl 1 drink every 20 minutes and still feel the need to tip her 500 baht? Even with DFK and heavy mutual groping the tip should only be 100-200 baht if you're buying 3 drinks per hour. You're basically doubling her income with that tip. If there's no touching then no tip.
OTH, I'm a pretty generous tipper to girls I KNOW and LIKE. You may see me tipping 500 or 1000 baht at them just for beating me at rock paper scissors but I never feel the need that I am required to tip. Any girl who is excessively thirsty will never be a regular of mine.
Explorer8939
06-26-23, 14:44
Not to pile on but Hahahaha. No offense.
It would add more colour if he at least gives a little description of his barfine. Is it the 50 year old 200 pounder or the 50 kilo 20 year old.
P.S. He is against guys sending money from Norway. But in a way he is wasting his money too. Or so it seems to me.The ladies who try to fuck me to death are typically 40 years old, 50 kilo types. The young ones are very happy with a 3 minute fuck.
But paying for a bad fuck is a million times better than sending a lady free money from Norway.
Explorer8939
06-26-23, 14:47
I don't understand much at all of why you do what you do. You complain about drunk women but continuously have them come to your place. You complain about the sex you pay for but continually have sex you complain about. At least 5 of your posts next week will be about some drunk woman you barfined or some woman that you had sex with that you didn't enjoy.I am not complaining about drunk women in general, just about a handful of overly horny types.
Aren't the vast majority of complaints here about exceptions, and not the rule?
And yes, sometimes I have a truly bad fuck, usually a rush job. I can finish in 3 minutes, but I need some warmup.
HorseTrader
06-26-23, 14:55
Unless you are 100% sure it was urine, she could have been a squirter, in which case, water comes out from her Bartholin glands.I didn't collect a sample for chemical analysis, but it looked like urine, smelled like urine, felt like urine, flowed like urine, and I watched it come out of the urethral meatus. It even stopped at about the volume her bladder would have been empty.
I have bought from 7/11 - very convenient but these are always in a pack of 3. Wondering if there is any online source that can ship 10's or 50's cheaper to US or Canadian addresses?
I would also like to try the 001 variant that is not available in 7/11/ Any suggestions on where to buy these from before heading to Thailand?
Chan Chalupa
06-27-23, 00:43
Let me understand. You buy a gogo girl 1 drink every 20 minutes and still feel the need to tip her 500 baht? Even with DFK and heavy mutual groping the tip should only be 100-200 baht if you're buying 3 drinks per hour. You're basically doubling her income with that tip. If there's no touching then no tip.
OTH, I'm a pretty generous tipper to girls I KNOW and LIKE. You may see me tipping 500 or 1000 baht at them just for beating me at rock paper scissors but I never feel the need that I am required to tip. Any girl who is excessively thirsty will never be a regular of mine.More text of Con.
When I think of groping I'm not thinking Explorer quality girl. No offense. Hahaha.
Chan Chalupa
06-27-23, 00:51
Assuming you buy 3 drinks. Grope and Kiss.
Assuming girl get barfined regularly.
Assuming 1 hour.
1 hour of no chance of a barfine requires good compensation.
Chan Chalupa
06-28-23, 01:41
Heading back to Pattaya.
Wish me Luck. In finding Hot Girls on SOY6 for 1,000 baht.
Heading back to Pattaya.
Wish me Luck. In finding Hot Girls on SOY6 for 1,000 baht.I'll be there Saturday, 1500 is the norm around town and it's going to be hard to find many agreeing with 1000.
MongerHunger
06-28-23, 06:59
I'll be there Saturday, 1500 is the norm around town and it's going to be hard to find many agreeing with 1000.Beach Road 1 k.
I have bought from 7/11 - very convenient but these are always in a pack of 3. Wondering if there is any online source that can ship 10's or 50's cheaper to US or Canadian addresses?
I would also like to try the 001 variant that is not available in 7/11/ Any suggestions on where to buy these from before heading to Thailand?Why don't you buy 1 pk at 7-11, check on who is the national distributor of the brand, maybe even Google can help, and you might find out some retailers. Or the whole seller can help you.
Explorer8939
06-28-23, 14:21
Just to make you guys happy, I can report that I went with a civvie for 3 days, and she had zero sex drive. Unlike the last time I saw her.
The first night, I went to sleep early. The second night, I tried boom-boom, but she was a dead fish. The third night, she went to sleep at five pm.
I did notice that she was going to the toilet all the time, all day, everywhere we went, and she didn't have phone service, so maybe she wasn't 100%.
So, no, its not horny women in Pattaya all the time, they are the exception.
Now I have 3 nights with another civvie lady, she will fuck, but not enthusiastically.
For anyone wondering, I give civvies 2000 a night.
Chan Chalupa
06-28-23, 15:57
Quick Hits.
1. Muay Thai ring is no more. Never did understand their business model.
2. Lighthouse is no more. 4 tier agogos have no chance. Don't buy one. Hahaha. Hahaha.
3. Sharks. One rotation full of hit girls. 3 tipless. 2 coyote but not bad.
Mr Enternational
06-28-23, 17:51
For anyone wondering, I give civvies 2000 a night.Then that ain't a civvie!
Frankypanky
06-28-23, 22:11
Hi guys, this will be my first visit to Pattaya next week. I want to know which massage saloon can offer me best massage and sex. Also I like going out, have a drink and catch a girl.
Dors anyone have advice for me about massage saloons and bars for girl? Thanks a lot.For massage, Soi Pothole or soi chaiyapoon. You might try VIP Massage at Soi Bua Khao. Stay away from the soapy massage like Sabai or PP Massage. Total rip-offs!
To have a drink an catch a girl? Depends on where your hotel is? Don't pick up girls near your hotel. To keep a distance. Otherwise try TreeTown beerbarcomplex. If you have a bigger budget or a very good money-management, try some Agogo at Walking Street. Skip Skyfall, XS and Mamasan Agogo! Pick a smaller agogo like Tantra, Sharks or Bliss.
Explorer8939
06-29-23, 01:02
Then that ain't a civvie!I don't know what to call them. Don't work bar, don't live in Pattaya.
Chan Chalupa
06-29-23, 05:54
I don't know what to call them. Don't work bar, don't live in Pattaya.Prostitoot works for me.
I'm not Hating on them it's just a description of Thier job. I pay to see them. So Chill.
LittleBigMan
06-29-23, 12:49
I don't know what to call them. Don't work bar, don't live in Pattaya.I think what is being a reference and I would agree if they don't work bar, living in Pattaya or not isn't relevant, if you are paying them then they aren't " Civvies " they are usually called Freelancers in many people's book.
Banana Boi
06-29-23, 12:52
Hi folks. I'm a pretty regular guy, but I do have my kinky side, my main one being exhibitionism / voyeurism. Seeing other people have fun makes me want to have fun. Are there are any gogo bars, clubs, BJ bars, etc. In Pattaya where I can see other mongers getting serviced?All Gentleman's clubs and BJ bars have the option of guys enjoying their girls right at the bar or on a sofa nearby. Don't think Soi 6 is an option for this any longer. Gogo bars with rooms upstairs are a thing of the past. None for over 5 years now.
I don't know what to call them. Don't work bar, don't live in Pattaya.
Hooker? Prostitute? Imagine going out with a non-P4P girl in USA and then handing her money after your real date? I went out with a RLD bartender in PP. I didn't know if I should pay her or not in the morning. I handed her money. She threw it back at me saying "I'm not a hooker!" and was very angry. Your "civvy" girl should have reacted the same way.
HorseTrader
06-29-23, 21:12
For anyone wondering, I give civvies 2000 a night.
Then that ain't a civvie!
I don't know what to call them. Don't work bar, don't live in Pattaya.
I think what is being a reference and I would agree if they don't work bar, living in Pattaya or not isn't relevant, if you are paying them then they aren't " Civvies " they are usually called Freelancers in many people's book.
Hooker? Prostitute? Imagine going out with a non-P4P girl in USA and then handing her money after your real date? I went out with a RLD bartender in PP. I didn't know if I should pay her or not in the morning. I handed her money. She threw it back at me saying "I'm not a hooker!" and was very angry. Your "civvy" girl should have reacted the same way.
In my book, to be a P4P girl she needs to derive a substantial portion of her income from the sex trade.
Supposed you meet a girl (online or in person), get to know her over a period of days to months without money involved, and then ask her to miss some time from work to be with you. Then you spend a week to a month with her and you know that her missed work has caused financial stress. What do you do? In that situation I give her money to compensate for money lost because she didn't work. If her normal work day nets her 1000 baht, I'll give her 1000 baht per day with me. I want to compensate her for lost work, but I don't want her to think of me as the golden ticket. Do you consider that girl a P4P girl? I don't.
Now suppose you have a live in girlfriend who does not work. You pay all of her expenses (food, rent, clothes, etc.). Do you consider her a P4P girl? I don't.
VijayMohan
06-29-23, 21:21
Hi brothers,
Going to visit Pattaya for first time. Just learning via articles hire to pick-up a girl from bar. Well I assume 2-3 lady drinks needs to be offered?
Once you fix the amount for LT, when do you usually give the amount? When you reach the hotel or even the girl is about to leave next day? What ids the standard practice?
Do you dine and have a drink before going to hotel? Or you have it at hotel? Could be just silly questions. Please forgive. It's the first time.
There are any articles you suggest please share it. Thanks much.
Cheers.
Vijay.
Mr Enternational
06-29-23, 23:43
In my book, to be a P4P girl she needs to derive a substantial portion of her income from the sex trade.
Supposed you meet a girl (online or in person), get to know her over a period of days to months without money involved, and then ask her to miss some time from work to be with you. Then you spend a week to a month with her and you know that her missed work has caused financial stress. What do you do? In that situation I give her money to compensate for money lost because she didn't work. If her normal work day nets her 1000 baht, I'll give her 1000 baht per day with me. I want to compensate her for lost work, but I don't want her to think of me as the golden ticket. Do you consider that girl a P4P girl? I don't.
Now suppose you have a live in girlfriend who does not work. You pay all of her expenses (food, rent, clothes, etc.). Do you consider her a P4P girl? I don't.Then you have to define what a substantial portion is. I do not know anyone who holds certain qualifications, but can only hold the title of that job if they derive x amount of money from doing that job. I grew up doing carpentry work. Every so often I may pick up a small job from someone. Are you telling me I can not be considered a carpenter since I do not make much money from it these days; nevermind me having a garage full of the tools of the trade?
If someone actually has a regular job like that then they most certainly can not take time off simply because you said you want them to spend time with you. In addition, they more than likely would not be making 1000 baht per day. I do not know any chick with a normal job that would not think it a bit strange for me to hand them 5000 baht because we returned from being in Koh Samui for 5 days. They would be like what is this money for?
Maybe she is not a P4 P girl, but it seems that is what you are making her out to be by giving her cash for spending time with you. Would she have gone if you were not going to give her cash? If yes, then I do not see the need to bring money into it. If no, then I can't see her being not a hooker.
I would never have a live in girlfriend, much less one that did not work. If a chick is living with me then she will have to pitch in just the same. I do not need anyone just taking up space and being an extra bill for me. Give her a couple of bills to pay, and the rest of her money she can do with how she pleases. But I am definitely not a rest haven for chicks.
We used to always eat at this restaurant. I never thought much of the waitress until one day Cool showed me her facebook page and she was all done up on a lot of the pictures. I was blown away. Eventually I saw her on Thai Friendly and we started talking and going out and she has been coming over spending the night for years now. She has never asked me and I have not given her for 1 baht all this time. Sometimes she even gives me her motorbike to drive around and I have my own damn motorbike. The other week ago I had stopped by the gogo to see my girl who is a cashier there. As I was coming out I saw the waitress and her friends. I was headed home and they said they were going to 808. I gave her 1000 baht and told her to have fun. That is a civvy!
Explorer8939
06-30-23, 01:07
Back in Pattaya after a short trip to Singapore.
Went to Hunny Lounge on Soi Honey, and bought drinks for a bargirl. Some customer who I don't know came up to me asked "How was Singapore?
I've been in Pattaya too long, I guess.
Explorer8939
06-30-23, 02:36
Hi brothers,
Going to visit Pattaya for first time. Just learning via articles hire to pick-up a girl from bar. Well I assume 2-3 lady drinks needs to be offered?
Once you fix the amount for LT, when do you usually give the amount? When you reach the hotel or even the girl is about to leave next day? What ids the standard practice?
Do you dine and have a drink before going to hotel? Or you have it at hotel? Could be just silly questions. Please forgive. It's the first time.
There are any articles you suggest please share it. Thanks much.
Cheers.
Vijay.I will usually buy a ladydrink and observe the lady before pulling trigger. I watch her body language.
Some ladies are only good for Short Time, they don't want to spend the night with a customer.
If you go Long Time, and it's still early, can dine before going to the hotel.
Watch out for the Key Trick, if the lady agrees to go all night.
LittleBigMan
06-30-23, 02:41
In my book, to be a P4P girl she needs to derive a substantial portion of her income from the sex trade.
Supposed you meet a girl (online or in person), get to know her over a period of days to months without money involved, and then ask her to miss some time from work to be with you. Then you spend a week to a month with her and you know that her missed work has caused financial stress. What do you do? In that situation I give her money to compensate for money lost because she didn't work. If her normal work day nets her 1000 baht, I'll give her 1000 baht per day with me. I want to compensate her for lost work, but I don't want her to think of me as the golden ticket. Do you consider that girl a P4P girl? I don't.
Now suppose you have a live in girlfriend who does not work. You pay all of her expenses (food, rent, clothes, etc.). Do you consider her a P4P girl? I don't.I can only speak for myself LOL.
1. Agree,
2.. Freelancer.
3. This one is a bit more complicated, this is what I consider old-school thinking where the man provides everything while the woman stays home. I guess if you are well off rich and brought up that way it works knock yourself out. I personally don't have the responsibility I believe in a woman being strong enough that is willing to try to be independent and to work if something happens to me.
To me a woman who is willing to come to live not to work as you indicated might now be a P4 P, even a Freelancer in society as to how we were raised is close to being one. In my opinion sure we can label it love but even in a situation like Pacino, him being 80 plus and the woman 20? Who gets pregnant in my book being kind is a gold digger you can take that and conclude from there.
Like my dad use to say "You are just renting " until you have to buy the cow.
In my book, to be a P4P girl she needs to derive a substantial portion of her income from the sex trade.
Supposed you meet a girl (online or in person), get to know her over a period of days to months without money involved, and then ask her to miss some time from work to be with you. Then you spend a week to a month with her and you know that her missed work has caused financial stress. What do you do? In that situation I give her money to compensate for money lost because she didn't work. If her normal work day nets her 1000 baht, I'll give her 1000 baht per day with me. I want to compensate her for lost work, but I don't want her to think of me as the golden ticket. Do you consider that girl a P4P girl? I don't.
Now suppose you have a live in girlfriend who does not work. You pay all of her expenses (food, rent, clothes, etc.). Do you consider her a P4P girl? I don't.I don't consider a girl in your scenario to be a P4 P girl. She is a civvie. Particularly if the reason she does not work or have a job is because you asked her to quit her job or to not take a job. It would be unfair to expect a lady in this environment that you / we want to hang out with, travel here and there with, stop everything to have lunch, dinner, explore and enjoy that kind of freedom with her at the drop of a hat, essentially to live the life of a retired expat with a sizable and guaranteed income stream when that is not her financial reality in any way, shape or form. So if we want her to behave that way for a long while, months, maybe years, for our convenience, pleasure and benefit, where is the money she is no longer making at her job in order to be our daily and nightly playmate supposed to come from? Should we only choose crusty old retired and monied ladies for our playmates?
Now, if a hole is a hole and the primary if not almost sole reason to spend any time with these ladies is to have sex with them otherwise we can't be bothered, of course, there is no reason to wait for any one of them to finish her regular job before we meet them or for one of those 3-day Thai holidays to come along before we can travel with them. At the worst possible time in terms of crowds and costs, BTW.
Bearing in mind there is a school of thought that considers anyone, male or female, who marries or establishes a regular relationship where sex is in the mix with someone who has more income and assets and who pays a greater than 50% share of expenses to be a "prostitute. " Some would even argue that if you had sex with a lady after buying her dinner she is a "prostitute". I might have even shared that opinion over the years. LOL.
But now I am an old, free-living retired expat with a guaranteed income stream that far surpasses that of virtually any non go-go girl, non escort, non P4 P, regular civvie girl I am likely to meet. I have spent the past decade or more experiencing hole after hole after hole on a daily and nightly basis here in Thailand and, lo and behold, have met a regular girl who has never worked as a P4 P girl, has barely even heard of ThaiFriendly or Tinder. She is 26, fluent in English, well-educated, sweet as they come, I would say adorably cute leaning well toward Lovely, is more sexually satisfying in every way that matters to me than all but the most rare P4 P girl or even regular girlfriend in my life and is a hell of a lot of fun and good company for anything we do together.
Overall, it is very much like the scenario you mentioned. I met her working in a restaurant. For the first several weeks it was dating, romance and sex with zero money in exchange for it. She had a job, not a great paying job, but a job. She paid all her own bills, rent and so on. Yes, I picked up the tab for dinner, movies, exploring, whatever. But she was adamant I would not be paying for the sex we had. She began to stay overnight at my place more than in her apartment, at my urging.
But, by god, I grew to hate her work schedule. It was interfering with our fun time together. Which days, which hours she worked, all day, many times until 2-3 am, the usual crappy young girl server in a late night restaurant-bar work schedule. I no longer wanted to fit my fun and my time with her around that crappy work schedule. Or much of any full time work schedule really. My crappy work schedule days are over. But if I wanted to be with her, which I did, and if I expected her to keep her job and pay her own bills, then I was back in a world of crappy work schedules.
So, at my urging, she reluctantly quit her job so she could hang out with me on my retired expat with a guaranteed income stream schedule. For how long? Who knows. It has only been 2-3 months so far. Oh, she is back to being a university student, taking language classes 1-2 days a week. It's great. She comes home in the afternoon wearing that black skirt and white blouse and it is a major violation of youth event I have to say she enjoys perhaps even more than I do. If that is possible. I replaced her monthly income at her old job, which roughly equaled about 1 week of my usual fuck and suck go-go girl and FL budget. I would have said getting it "free" is more expensive than paying for it. Not so. I am saving a ton of money in this arrangement. Also at my urging, she has kept her old apartment and pays the rent for it out of, to me, the relatively insignificant sum I give her each month.
No doubt about it, the one big thing neither she nor any one girl can provide me is variety. But so far I have not really missed fucking and getting blown by other girls. I prefer to be with her. Again, for how long? Who knows. Oh, I still have enough free hours here and there to squeeze in a pop with other girls in the area. Hell, I live in Thailand.
Then you have to define what a substantial portion is. I do not know anyone who holds certain qualifications, but can only hold the title of that job if they derive x amount of money from doing that job. I grew up doing carpentry work. Every so often I may pick up a small job from someone. Are you telling me I can not be considered a carpenter since I do not make much money from it these days; nevermind me having a garage full of the tools of the trade?
If someone actually has a regular job like that then they most certainly can not take time off simply because you said you want them to spend time with you. In addition, they more than likely would not be making 1000 baht per day. I do not know any chick with a normal job that would not think it a bit strange for me to hand them 5000 baht because we returned from being in Koh Samui for 5 days. They would be like what is this money for?
Maybe she is not a P4 P girl, but it seems that is what you are making her out to be by giving her cash for spending time with you. Would she have gone if you were not going to give her cash? If yes, then I do not see the need to bring money into it. If no, then I can't see her being not a hooker.
I would never have a live in girlfriend, much less one that did not work. If a chick is living with me then she will have to pitch in just the same. I do not need anyone just taking up space and being an extra bill for me. Give her a couple of bills to pay, and the rest of her money she can do with how she pleases. But I am definitely not a rest haven for chicks.
We used to always eat at this restaurant. I never thought much of the waitress until one day Cool showed me her facebook page and she was all done up on a lot of the pictures. I was blown away. Eventually I saw her on Thai Friendly and we started talking and going out and she has been coming over spending the night for years now. She has never asked me and I have not given her for 1 baht all this time. Sometimes she even gives me her motorbike to drive around and I have my own damn motorbike. The other week ago I had stopped by the gogo to see my girl who is a cashier there. As I was coming out I saw the waitress and her friends. I was headed home and they said they were going to 808. I gave her 1000 baht and told her to have fun. That is a civvy!I agree.
A real civvy girl, employed in whatever serious and regular job, can't simply disappear from the office for 1-2-3 weeks depending on the wish of the guy she met (how did she meet him?
Unless she takes officially days off from her job (yearly leave) and for which she is paid anyhow. This can happen in a normal relationship, making it like a holiday together.
By the way, will the guy be #1 of the year, or #5?
What's so special she decides to use her days off to spend with the guy?
Why then money should be involved?
Are we paying a girl to compensate her for the missed work in our country?
No, because this situation will not happen. At the best it can be a weekend together, ie not missed work.
Explorer8939
06-30-23, 05:36
I agree.
A real civvy girl, employed in whatever serious and regular job, can't simply disappear from the office for 1-2-3 weeks depending on the wish of the guy she met (how did she meet him?
Unless she takes officially days off from her job (yearly leave) and for which she is paid anyhow. This can happen in a normal relationship, making it like a holiday together.
By the way, will the guy be #1 of the year, or #5?
What's so special she decides to use her days off to spend with the guy?
Why then money should be involved?
Are we paying a girl to compensate her for the missed work in our country?
No, because this situation will not happen. At the best it can be a weekend together, ie not missed work.The ladies I have been going with live in the village, and do odd jobs. Plus, they have Thai husbands.
So, they can leave whenever they want.
LittleBigMan
06-30-23, 07:56
I agree.
A real civvy girl, employed in whatever serious and regular job, can't simply disappear from the office for 1-2-3 weeks depending on the wish of the guy she met (how did she meet him?
Unless she takes officially days off from her job (yearly leave) and for which she is paid anyhow. This can happen in a normal relationship, making it like a holiday together.
By the way, will the guy be #1 of the year, or #5?
What's so special she decides to use her days off to spend with the guy?
Why then money should be involved?
Are we paying a girl to compensate her for the missed work in our country?
No, because this situation will not happen. At the best it can be a weekend together, ie not missed work.Another scenario question based on from the West, as I noted easy to say it but harder to apply when in Thailand. As you noted the majority of the time we would never ask someone to join us and tell them I will compensate you for your time.
Another scenario question based on from the West, as I noted easy to say it but harder to apply when in Thailand. As you noted the majority of the time we would never ask someone to join us and tell them I will compensate you for your time.I was actually referring also to a Thai scenario.
Give you know some girl or lady working in any activity. Plenty of, Thailand economy is not running on the RLD industry, it has tens and tens of activities, hundreds. Does anyone think to "compensate" a day off she might take for a day together with a LT fee?
F* ridiculous, west or Thai thinking.
What kind of a job would allow a girl to get away from the office or whatever for a week because she goes to an island with a farang for good time. Just like that.
Explorer8939
06-30-23, 10:48
I was actually referring also to a Thai scenario.
Give you know some girl or lady working in any activity. Plenty of, Thailand economy is not running on the RLD industry, it has tens and tens of activities, hundreds. Does anyone think to "compensate" a day off she might take for a day together with a LT fee?
F* ridiculous, west or Thai thinking.
What kind of a job would allow a girl to get away from the office or whatever for a week because she goes to an island with a farang for good time. Just like that.Plenty of ladies in Thailand don't work in a 9 to 5 office, or in a factory, mostly in a place called "Isaan". Jobs there are not so much 9 to 5.
One lady I went with sells merchandise and occasionally works farm. Taking a few paid days away from her Thai boyfriend was no big deal.
CaptainSalami
06-30-23, 11:04
Hi all,
I have been following the Pattaya convo for a while now and doing my research. Thanks to all for the updates and reports. Especially Enternational, Explorer, Lancelot etc. I am returning to the action after a long term relationship break up and am looking forward to it! My tickets are booked to arrive in Pattaya via BKK from AUK on 23rd July for a 5 night stay on my way to LHR. It's been a few years since I was in the game but I have fond memories of places like Medellin, Moscow, Vinnitsa and others. Bogot was a nightmare!
I think I will stay at the Empress and Nams for the transfer.
Soi 6 looking very appealing and can't wait to visit the Windmill.
I do have a couple of questions I haven't yet been able to answer via RTFF.
1 - do the girls in the Agogos get full nude?
2 - can anyone recommend a massage place near the Empress?
3 - does Camel Toe have onsite rooms or not. Reports aren't clear?
4 - Is Cat Flaps worth a look?
I look forward to posting reports and the comments and feedback on them. Especially from Chalupa. Ha ha ha no offence!
Re the chat about P4P or not ladies. If she ain't contributing something to running costs she's a taker and a prossie of some kind.
Thanks again for all the info and bring it on!
Chan Chalupa
06-30-23, 12:42
Soi6 goings on.
The girls are just so Unattractive. Hahaha.
VijayMohan
06-30-23, 13:46
Hi brothers,
Going to visit Pattaya for first time. Just learning via articles hire to pick-up a girl from bar. Well I assume 2-3 lady drinks needs to be offered?
Once you fix the amount for LT, when do you usually give the amount? When you reach the hotel or even the girl is about to leave next day? What ids the standard practice?
Do you dine and have a drink before going to hotel? Or you have it at hotel? Could be just silly questions. Please forgive. It's the first time.
There are any articles you suggest please share it. Thanks much.
Cheers.
Vijay.Brothers, any help here? TIA.
Brothers, any help here? TIA.I don't buy more than one lady drink. I pay her when I'm done. I don't dine or drink with them, I'm not interested and its unnecessary.
Vijay, ya got pay for pussy in your home base? All the same, except maybe you pay first. Take your time in reading back in the forum for deeper detail.
Brothers, any help here? TIA.Have you RTFF?
My tickets are booked to arrive in Pattaya via BKK from AUK on 23rd July for a 5 night stay on my way to LHR. It's been a few years since I was in the game but I have fond memories of places like Medellin, Moscow, Vinnitsa and others. Bogot was a nightmare!For just 5 days don't even bother the places you cited. Best is to take one girl per night in some of the best agogos on walking, like Palace or another one filled with a lot of girls. You'll spend more money, but you'll have more chances of not finishing with an unattractive girl in your bed sheets.
You'll find nude only in places like Windmill or Kink, talent is very low over there if you want to pick a girl back to your room.
Massage places are all around town, no need to take one near your hotel, what kind of massage are you looking for anyway? A brothel disguised as a massage place or a traditional massage?
MartinFlevo
06-30-23, 16:42
1 - do the girls in the Agogos get full nude?In most aGogo NOT. However KINK / Windmill have a few full nude ladies.
HorseTrader
06-30-23, 17:10
What kind of a job would allow a girl to get away from the office or whatever for a week because she goes to an island with a farang for good time. Just like that.Surprisingly more than you would expect in Thailand. Between my buddy and me we have done this with a wide range on non-P4P girls.
Airport security girl.
Government employee.
Accountant for private company.
Another accountant from family owned business.
Worker at fancy mall spa (almost exclusively women customers).
Isaan hotel housekeeper.
Self employed baker.
All of the above stayed with either me or my buddy for 10 to 30 days. My buddy and I got severely limited in available time by a nurse and by a school teacher. Neither could spend more than a very few days away from work. I'm currently working toward an Isaan traveling market business owner, but that isn't going well because she doesn't trust her family to run the business in her absence.
MongerHunger
06-30-23, 17:55
Brothers, any help here? TIA.It doesn't seem that you are doing much reading here in this forum where there is tons of information. Do your research. You're are not trying.
I don't consider a girl in your scenario to be a P4 P girl. She is a civvie. Particularly if the reason she does not work or have a job is because you asked her to quit her job or to not take a job. It would be unfair to expect a lady in this environment that you / we want to hang out with, travel here and there with, stop everything to have lunch, dinner, explore and enjoy that kind of freedom with her at the drop of a hat, essentially to live the life of a retired expat with a sizable and guaranteed income stream when that is not her financial reality in any way, shape or form. So if we want her to behave that way for a long while, months, maybe years, for our convenience, pleasure and benefit, where is the money she is no longer making at her job in order to be our daily and nightly playmate supposed to come from? Should we only choose crusty old retired and monied ladies for our playmates?
Now, if a hole is a hole and the primary if not almost sole reason to spend any time with these ladies is to have sex with them otherwise we can't be bothered, of course, there is no reason to wait for any one of them to finish her regular job before we meet them or for one of those 3-day Thai holidays to come along before we can travel with them. At the worst possible time in terms of crowds and costs, BTW.
Bearing in mind there is a school of thought that considers anyone, male or female, who marries or establishes a regular relationship where sex is in the mix with someone who has more income and assets and who pays a greater than 50% share of expenses to be a "prostitute. " Some would even argue that if you had sex with a lady after buying her dinner she is a "prostitute". I might have even shared that opinion over the years. LOL."She comes home in the afternoon wearing that black skirt and white blouse".
Envious reading this line!
Banana Boi
06-30-23, 19:41
Going to visit Pattaya for first time. Just learning via articles hire to pick-up a girl from bar. Well I assume 2-3 lady drinks needs to be offered?
Once you fix the amount for LT, when do you usually give the amount? When you reach the hotel or even the girl is about to leave next day? What ids the standard practice?
Do you dine and have a drink before going to hotel? Or you have it at hotel? Could be just silly questions. Please forgive. It's the first time.
I'll answer from a gogo bar perspective. No drink is required for the girl. Be like the Japanese. They circle the stages 2 or 3 times and then just point. Mamasans know this is cash in their pocket and race to the Japanese guy to collect the barfine. Some girls may require you to buy them drinks. The number of drinks vary depending on how big a chump the girl thinks you are. Seen guys buy 20 "drinks" before a girl would BF.
Some gogo bars collect the entire amount up front. Some only collect the barfine portion and you pay the girl her portion after.
LT does not necessarily mean the next day. If the girl can't stand your face LT could be 3 hours. Best to clarify this before you take her. It's why although not necessary at least 1 drink before pulling the trigger is a smart investment imo. Again, LT could be 3 hours it could be until they have to go back to work the next day. All depends on many factors like how much they like your company, how much you're feeding them, how nice your hotel is, if they have a Thai BF waiting for them to come home to look after her kid, etc. You can eat any time in that period. It's your time with the girl you can have sex or go eat. Up to you.
Chan Chalupa
07-01-23, 00:16
For just 5 days don't even bother the places you cited. Best is to take one girl per night in some of the best agogos on walking, like Palace or another one filled with a lot of girls. You'll spend more money, but you'll have more chances of not finishing with an unattractive girl in your bed sheets.
You'll find nude only in places like Windmill or Kink, talent is very low over there if you want to pick a girl back to your room.
Massage places are all around town, no need to take one near your hotel, what kind of massage are you looking for anyway? A brothel disguised as a massage place or a traditional massage?He mentioned appreciation for 3 posters.
Those 3 like Non-expebsive girls. Hahaha. Not that there's anything wrong with that. Hahaha.
Chan Chalupa
07-01-23, 00:28
One mortal SIN is paying girls Fee in full before even getting Buck Nekkid.
Don't do it Homie.
You cannot put the Stick before the Carrot. You just can't.
Explorer8939
07-01-23, 02:03
Went to a Thai bar last night, on the easternbfringe of the Darkside. Maybe 4 ladies working there, but also civvie ladies drinking together.
Like most Thai bars, bottle service was offered. Sangsom with soda.
There was a Thai band, playing Thai music.
The setup is thst customers can sit and drink with a lady, and tip when they leave. No bar fines or short time room. It is possible to arrange an outdate with a lady during the day, but the ladies are all living with Thai men, so it is not easy for them to get away to see a customer. Particularly a Thai customer.
Chan Chalupa
07-01-23, 02:18
Friday Night. I spent 100 baht on The Street of Not Dreams.
Walked up and down maybe 5 times, all I could find were Cubic Zirconians.
Sat at Desire Bar hoping maybe someone was Hanging with Priew.
The downstairs girls are a Solid 2. 1. 5 if you are a tough judger. Yes they are that bad.
"She comes home in the afternoon wearing that black skirt and white blouse".
Envious reading this line!LOL. I understand perfectly. After School days are special. She knows not to change into regular street cloths until we have finished our homework.
LittleBigMan
07-01-23, 04:41
Hi all,
I have been following the Pattaya convo for a while now and doing my research. Thanks to all for the updates and reports. Especially Enternational, Explorer, Lancelot etc. I am returning to the action after a long term relationship break up and am looking forward to it! My tickets are booked to arrive in Pattaya via BKK from AUK on 23rd July for a 5 night stay on my way to LHR. It's been a few years since I was in the game but I have fond memories of places like Medellin, Moscow, Vinnitsa and others. Bogot was a nightmare!
I think I will stay at the Empress and Nams for the transfer.
Soi 6 looking very appealing and can't wait to visit the Windmill.
I do have a couple of questions I haven't yet been able to answer via RTFF.
1 - do the girls in the Agogos get full nude?
2 - can anyone recommend a massage place near the Empress?
3 - does Camel Toe have onsite rooms or not. Reports aren't clear?
4 - Is Cat Flaps worth a look?
I look forward to posting reports and the comments and feedback on them. Especially from Chalupa. Ha ha ha no offence!
Re the chat about P4P or not ladies. If she ain't contributing something to running costs she's a taker and a prossie of some kind.
Thanks again for all the info and bring it on!As noted, Kink and Willmill for sure, Windmill has a smaller place just across also marked Windmill GoGo I have been inside yet. Dollhouse with Electric Blue upstairs has full nudity with table dancing at certain spots lower level but the last few times I was in the lineup wasn't anything even close to pre-covid. There were a few gems within the short and stocky I call them. There is also didn't noticed before the upper level of seating a dark glass room you can get F. S. Or a BJ.
Many of the GoGo's today might have one or two in their lineup that goes topless. I visited another new GoGo that opened a few months ago called 79, across from PinUp next to Bacarra, the place is really narrow tough to see the entire lineup basically 3 different stages so the best spot is in the middle I got there just as the model lineup was on stage which takes their top down, a cheap 95 draft to survey a few young gems like 341, from what I heard and see drink prices are over 200 baht, when I ask about the BF told 2500. There is a new GoGo on L. K. Angel I heard might have topless but last night after striking out at Bacarra decided to head for a look and was called out by a girl I use to see 10 years ago, working as a waitress at Billabong so for old time sake stop for a drink to catch up an hour later she was on the back of my bike, bit older heavier down Soi Honey to ST room for 1500 baht a steal especially when service is above and beyond.
As for Camel Toe, last time I was there in Feb, if they had an ST room it is no longer available, to my surprise I was taken to a corner booth near the entrance curtains were pulled and I was made to be comfortable on the sofa lounge lucky for me I'm not a big guy but needed more room since post Covid she had picked up a few pounds so I three down the cushion on the floor /
Explorer8939
07-01-23, 07:18
One more note about "civvies", ie women who have never worked bar. Because of that lack of experience, they don't fuck like a bargirl, they don't have the same work ethic, ie they are more like a normal woman.
One other wrinkle, once they are older, their baby daddy has likely ditched them. Not just because they are older, but often because any sex drive they did have is gone (this is common among Thai women married to Farangs, too).
So now you have a lady who doesn't want or need sex, which can be uncomfortable. Of course, they did have a husband when their sex drive was drying up, so they know that men want sex.
Bottom line: if you go with civvies, the dud rate is much higher than with bargirls. I live here, so I can afford some duds.
CaptainSalami
07-01-23, 07:24
For just 5 days don't even bother the places you cited. Best is to take one girl per night in some of the best agogos on walking, like Palace or another one filled with a lot of girls. You'll spend more money, but you'll have more chances of not finishing with an unattractive girl in your bed sheets.
You'll find nude only in places like Windmill or Kink, talent is very low over there if you want to pick a girl back to your room.
Massage places are all around town, no need to take one near your hotel, what kind of massage are you looking for anyway? A brothel disguised as a massage place or a traditional massage?Do many of the Agogo girls have an open back door policy?
CaptainSalami
07-01-23, 07:27
As noted, Kink and Willmill for sure, Windmill has a smaller place just across also marked Windmill GoGo I have been inside yet. Dollhouse with Electric Blue upstairs has full nudity with table dancing at certain spots lower level but the last few times I was in the lineup wasn't anything even close to pre-covid. There were a few gems within the short and stocky I call them. There is also didn't noticed before the upper level of seating a dark glass room you can get F. S. Or a BJ.
Many of the GoGo's today might have one or two in their lineup that goes topless. I visited another new GoGo that opened a few months ago called 79, across from PinUp next to Bacarra, the place is really narrow tough to see the entire lineup basically 3 different stages so the best spot is in the middle I got there just as the model lineup was on stage which takes their top down, a cheap 95 draft to survey a few young gems like 341, from what I heard and see drink prices are over 200 baht, when I ask about the BF told 2500. There is a new GoGo on L. K. Angel I heard might have topless but last night after striking out at Bacarra decided to head for a look and was called out by a girl I use to see 10 years ago, working as a waitress at Billabong so for old time sake stop for a drink to catch up an hour later she was on the back of my bike, bit older heavier down Soi Honey to ST room for 1500 baht a steal especially when service is above and beyond.
As for Camel Toe, last time I was there in Feb, if they had an ST room it is no longer available, to my surprise I was taken to a corner booth near the entrance curtains were pulled and I was made to be comfortable on the sofa lounge lucky for me I'm not a big guy but needed more room since post Covid she had picked up a few pounds so I three down the cushion on the floor /That's a surprise. I thought a lot more places would go nude or do you have to go VIP for that? I prefer to see what's on offer before committing.
CaptainSalami
07-01-23, 07:31
For just 5 days don't even bother the places you cited. Best is to take one girl per night in some of the best agogos on walking, like Palace or another one filled with a lot of girls. You'll spend more money, but you'll have more chances of not finishing with an unattractive girl in your bed sheets.
You'll find nude only in places like Windmill or Kink, talent is very low over there if you want to pick a girl back to your room.
Massage places are all around town, no need to take one near your hotel, what kind of massage are you looking for anyway? A brothel disguised as a massage place or a traditional massage?Am looking for massage with options to start the day. Am hoping I can manage more than one a day on a couple of days. Managed 3 in a day once in Moscow but that did take a lot of prep. Am confident no issues finishing as have been chained up on a leash for too long.
CaptainSalami
07-01-23, 07:38
Surprisingly more than you would expect in Thailand. Between my buddy and me we have done this with a wide range on non-P4P girls.
Airport security girl.
Government employee.
Accountant for private company.
Another accountant from family owned business.
Worker at fancy mall spa (almost exclusively women customers).
Isaan hotel housekeeper.
Self employed baker.
All of the above stayed with either me or my buddy for 10 to 30 days. My buddy and I got severely limited in available time by a nurse and by a school teacher. Neither could spend more than a very few days away from work. I'm currently working toward an Isaan traveling market business owner, but that isn't going well because she doesn't trust her family to run the business in her absence.A teacher would be a good option.
CaptainSalami
07-01-23, 08:08
He mentioned appreciation for 3 posters.
Those 3 like Non-expebsive girls. Hahaha. Not that there's anything wrong with that. Hahaha.I appreciate all who have posted quality information. Value for money is not lost on me but I do prefer naughty over nice and it can be hard to find a naughty diamond IMHO.
Explorer8939
07-01-23, 10:05
One mortal SIN is paying girls Fee in full before even getting Buck Nekkid.
Don't do it Homie.
You cannot put the Stick before the Carrot. You just can't.Carriage before the horse, but your point is well taken.
Hi all,
I think I will stay at the Empress and Nams for the transfer.
Thanks again for all the info and bring it on!I just left Pattaya, on my first visit and stayed 8 days at the Empress, I was mostly very pleased with the hotel and would stay there again with not a problem. The staff was very helpful. I tipped the housekeeper 40 baht a day and she gave me extra towels and waters and was very responsive to any other request I had. The location is excellent if you like the beach. I also used Nam for the transfer and everything went perfect with one exception. They originally assigned Dream to pick me up and her photo was pleasant. Just prior to my flight I was told that they had substituted Nikky to pick me up. Nikky was efficient, professional, and got to the hotel in good time and with not any fuss. Let's just say, I was not interested in chatting her up AT ALL, which was fine since she had very limited English skills. Not her fault she is not attractive, but it was a bummer and I felt bad because I know she saw the disappointment in my eyes when I met her. I will use Nam's again with no hesitation. BTW, about 10 meters up Soi 12, (away from the beach) is a taxi stand. I used the guy a couple of times as he was recommended by the hotel staff and he also took me to the airport today for the flight back. If you use him tell him the guy that gave him a unopened bottle of Absolute recommended him. He also took me to Camel Toe twice, more about that later.
2 - can anyone recommend a massage place near the Empress?
That is really hard to do, since there are so many and the choices are immense. I will give you two that I used. I went to O Ring on Beach Road (There are two locations side by side). It is a legit place and will not even do HJ. The girl I picked told me that before I got the massage in a quiet voice. She suggested I get a foot massage which I did. Turns out you can "bar fine" the massage girls for $400 baht a day. Of course the expectation is they are going to make some money with you, but the ladies are under NO obligation to say yes to going out at all.
The girl I chose was probably close to 40 if not over, but was well preserved. I paid the $400 B and told her I wanted a 2 hour oil massage and then we would decide what else to do. She gave me a very nice relaxing massage and enjoyed my romantic overtures. Let's just say that she told me she had not been laid in almost a year and I believe it from the reaction. It was a wonderful full evening of pleasure and we went to eat after the sex. I gave her $1500 B, she had never asked for anything, and I felt like it was very fair. I would have liked to see her again, but she went back home for a 2 week stay, I forgot to get her Line ID. The other place I went was just across from the Subway shop, on the corner of 2nd Rd. And Soi 13, which I think is Soi LK, the name is Aree Massage. Same kind of thing, except they will do HJ, but nothing more unless you take them outside. Listen, I get that these are not 22 yr old stunners, but for me there is something about a attractive massage lady and good sex. They know how to touch you in a way that makes it more intimate in my experience, and to be honest when they are face down in a pillow and a cute ass in the air, I find I am unconcerned about how big are their tits, and if they look 19 years old, but that is just me. Again, I found one that I like her look and just got a foot massage, to get a feel for the vibe and then offered to buy them out of the shop for the day. I did this twice at Aree, and went to eat with both ladies first then took them to the Empress. It was fun both times.
3 - does Camel Toe have onsite rooms or not. Reports aren't clear?
I am not sure about anything before the last week, but I was there three times last week and a full bore session twice in a private room about 40 feet from the bar. One was a with a gal that had only been there from 2 days, and I was her first client for full service. I really wasn't all that interested at first, and she never gave me the " I really need to help" stuff, but she was working real hard to get me to take her to the room, I think to save face more than anything. She uses the name Focus and was right off the farm it seemed and didn't know much about seduction and a few of the other more experienced gals did try to poach me off her once she got me going. She didn't know she needed to bring her own KY and was so tight I wasn't sure it was going to happen, but nature has a way or working things out. I also enjoyed Patty. Lady drinks are $150, FS is $1000 B, the room is $400 B, I think they can do HJ's in a curtained off area and blow jobs as well if it is busy, but they did have one room with a bed and shower. They market themselves as having a lot of MILFs and it is true, but there are a few of the ladies that carry it well and they like to have fun. They are also understanding if you want to trade for a different girl. The girls greet each new guest on a rotation basis, but no problem to ask for a different lady.
4 - Is Cat Flaps worth a look?
I didn't go there, but I did go to MClub, and I really liked it. There are 2 or 3 really pretty ladies that work there and it is a bit more upscale. Take a look at their IG account and I saw most of the ladies in the photos there at some point in my two visits. One thing I will say, the girl with the huge tits in the manager and I don't know if she is willing to play or not, but I suspect that most of the rest are up for everything. I didn't run into "only for drinks" gals in either of these clubs. I would go back to MClub again as well.
I did not go into any go gos for more than one drink as they are not my jam. I did chat up two really pretty late 20's gals at different beer bars and they were complaining about how slow business was and then when I asked to leave for what I knew to be a reasonable offer, they both said ST was at least $4 K plus bar fine. I told I knew better but they would not budge. I finally asked if business was so bad and there are so many ladies willing to go for less why are you being so stubborn. I got some version of "that is my price", I said fine, you can sit right in the that chair and watch me walk away, but at this moment your $4 K ass is making you exactly $0 and your attitude is not helping.
I went to Korandos one afternoon early and it was DOA but two really hot girls, but I wasn't in the mood. I also went to Maggie Mays and again had just finished a session, so was just window shopping, but there were some nice offerings as well.
At least one evening take a stroll down Beach Rd. There are a lot of VERY average girls, and a couple of real hot LB's. The first question I asked any Beach Rd gal was if she was female at birth, and none of them pushed back or seemed put off. I suspect they get asked a lot. The first night I found one that looked like a school teacher, but was really built well and was wearing a nice fitting skirt and crop top with her glasses. $1000 B later she was naked in my bed and teaching me some new tricks. I made it a habit to walk down Beach Rd. Every night just to see what was available, but usually I was tapped out by then.
BTW, there are two massage shops on Soi 12 as you are walking away from the hotel and they each have at least one gal I wish I had asked to come the hotel, I was always afraid I would find something better, but you know how that goes.
I hope this helps and now I don't have to do a field report! HA Ha.
P.S., I apologize for any grammatical or spelling errors, I am too lazy to edit this thing.
Best,
Sky.
Do many of the Agogo girls have an open back door policy?I guess some of them would accept but you have to be clear with them before barfining them, they might request extra money too.
In other places, nothing is guaranteed too, it's not only in the gogos.
I asked to leave for what I knew to be a reasonable offer, they both said ST was at least $4 K plus bar fine. I told I knew better but they would not budge. I finally asked if business was so bad and there are so many ladies willing to go for less why are you being so stubborn. I got some version of "that is my price", I said fine, you can sit right in the that chair and watch me walk away, but at this moment your $4 K ass is making you exactly $0 and your attitude is not helping..4 K for ST with a beer bar girl? Seems that they were really convinced you were a newbie, but we've all been through these kind of girls, asking too much and not wanting to negotiate at all.
Am looking for massage with options to start the day. Am hoping I can manage more than one a day on a couple of days. Managed 3 in a day once in Moscow but that did take a lot of prep. Am confident no issues finishing as have been chained up on a leash for too long.For this the best bet is on soi Buakhao, adjacent sois off soi Buakhao around soi Diana, soi Honey and a few others around there. In other places, although probably possible in many places, nothing is sure, so you'll have to ask at each places first.
Chan Chalupa
07-01-23, 18:12
2023 winner of the year in BBB category goes to.
PinUps. Big bad boob jobs galore, never seen anything like it.
Where the Hot Girls at Palace go.
Pacha. Momma was so happy a girl got Barfined she was patting every girl on the Head with the 2,000 baht fee.
Pacha. Just as I was leaving someone rang the Bell. I think it saved the night. God it was empty.
Tantra. Al I could think was how much were they losing on a Saturday night?
Fahrenheit. Where I was sat I could see Bodies but not Heads on many girls. Hahaha.
LOL. I understand perfectly. After School days are special. She knows not to change into regular street cloths until we have finished our homework.You dirty dog LOL.
Of course I see the attractive uni gals wearing the uniforms everywhere in BKK, but never been lucky enough to land one.
I just left Pattaya, on my first visit and stayed 8 days at the Empress, I was mostly very pleased with the hotel and would stay there again with not a problem. The staff was very helpful. I tipped the housekeeper 40 baht a day and she gave me extra towels and waters and was very responsive to any other request I had. The location is excellent if you like the beach. I also used Nam for the transfer and everything went perfect with one exception. They originally assigned Dream to pick me up and her photo was pleasant. Just prior to my flight I was told that they had substituted Nikky to pick me up. Nikky was efficient, professional, and got to the hotel in good time and with not any fuss. Let's just say, I was not interested in chatting her up AT ALL, which was fine since she had very limited English skills. Not her fault she is not attractive, but it was a bummer and I felt bad because I know she saw the disappointment in my eyes when I met her. I will use Nam's again with no hesitation. BTW, about 10 meters up Soi 12, (away from the beach) is a taxi stand. I used the guy a couple of times as he was recommended by the hotel staff and he also took me to the airport today for the flight back. If you use him tell him the guy that gave him a unopened bottle of Absolute recommended him. He also took me to Camel Toe twice, more about that later.
2 - can anyone recommend a massage place near the Empress?
That is really hard to do, since there are so many and the choices are immense. I will give you two that I used. I went to O Ring on Beach Road (There are two locations side by side). It is a legit place and will not even do HJ. The girl I picked told me that before I got the massage in a quiet voice. She suggested I get a foot massage which I did. Turns out you can "bar fine" the massage girls for $400 baht a day. Of course the expectation is they are going to make some money with you, but the ladies are under NO obligation to say yes to going out at all.
The girl I chose was probably close to 40 if not over, but was well preserved. I paid the $400 B and told her I wanted a 2 hour oil massage and then we would decide what else to do. She gave me a very nice relaxing massage and enjoyed my romantic overtures. Let's just say that she told me she had not been laid in almost a year and I believe it from the reaction. It was a wonderful full evening of pleasure and we went to eat after the sex. I gave her $1500 B, she had never asked for anything, and I felt like it was very fair. I would have liked to see her again, but she went back home for a 2 week stay, I forgot to get her Line ID. The other place I went was just across from the Subway shop, on the corner of 2nd Rd. And Soi 13, which I think is Soi LK, the name is Aree Massage. Same kind of thing, except they will do HJ, but nothing more unless you take them outside. Listen, I get that these are not 22 yr old stunners, but for me there is something about a attractive massage lady and good sex. They know how to touch you in a way that makes it more intimate in my experience, and to be honest when they are face down in a pillow and a cute ass in the air, I find I am unconcerned about how big are their tits, and if they look 19 years old, but that is just me. Again, I found one that I like her look and just got a foot massage, to get a feel for the vibe and then offered to buy them out of the shop for the day. I did this twice at Aree, and went to eat with both ladies first then took them to the Empress. It was fun both times.
3 - does Camel Toe have onsite rooms or not. Reports aren't clear?
I am not sure about anything before the last week, but I was there three times last week and a full bore session twice in a private room about 40 feet from the bar. One was a with a gal that had only been there from 2 days, and I was her first client for full service. I really wasn't all that interested at first, and she never gave me the " I really need to help" stuff, but she was working real hard to get me to take her to the room, I think to save face more than anything. She uses the name Focus and was right off the farm it seemed and didn't know much about seduction and a few of the other more experienced gals did try to poach me off her once she got me going. She didn't know she needed to bring her own KY and was so tight I wasn't sure it was going to happen, but nature has a way or working things out. I also enjoyed Patty. Lady drinks are $150, FS is $1000 B, the room is $400 B, I think they can do HJ's in a curtained off area and blow jobs as well if it is busy, but they did have one room with a bed and shower. They market themselves as having a lot of MILFs and it is true, but there are a few of the ladies that carry it well and they like to have fun. They are also understanding if you want to trade for a different girl. The girls greet each new guest on a rotation basis, but no problem to ask for a different lady.
4 - Is Cat Flaps worth a look?
I didn't go there, but I did go to MClub, and I really liked it. There are 2 or 3 really pretty ladies that work there and it is a bit more upscale. Take a look at their IG account and I saw most of the ladies in the photos there at some point in my two visits. One thing I will say, the girl with the huge tits in the manager and I don't know if she is willing to play or not, but I suspect that most of the rest are up for everything. I didn't run into "only for drinks" gals in either of these clubs. I would go back to MClub again as well.
I did not go into any go gos for more than one drink as they are not my jam. I did chat up two really pretty late 20's gals at different beer bars and they were complaining about how slow business was and then when I asked to leave for what I knew to be a reasonable offer, they both said ST was at least $4 K plus bar fine. I told I knew better but they would not budge. I finally asked if business was so bad and there are so many ladies willing to go for less why are you being so stubborn. I got some version of "that is my price", I said fine, you can sit right in the that chair and watch me walk away, but at this moment your $4 K ass is making you exactly $0 and your attitude is not helping.
I went to Korandos one afternoon early and it was DOA but two really hot girls, but I wasn't in the mood. I also went to Maggie Mays and again had just finished a session, so was just window shopping, but there were some nice offerings as well.
At least one evening take a stroll down Beach Rd. There are a lot of VERY average girls, and a couple of real hot LB's. The first question I asked any Beach Rd gal was if she was female at birth, and none of them pushed back or seemed put off. I suspect they get asked a lot. The first night I found one that looked like a school teacher, but was really built well and was wearing a nice fitting skirt and crop top with her glasses. $1000 B later she was naked in my bed and teaching me some new tricks. I made it a habit to walk down Beach Rd. Every night just to see what was available, but usually I was tapped out by then.
BTW, there are two massage shops on Soi 12 as you are walking away from the hotel and they each have at least one gal I wish I had asked to come the hotel, I was always afraid I would find something better, but you know how that goes.
I hope this helps and now I don't have to do a field report! HA Ha.
P.S., I apologize for any grammatical or spelling errors, I am too lazy to edit this thing.
Best,
Sky.I've never bar fined women from legit massage shops. Can you explain more how to go about it. I mean do you ask up front for a girl that can be bar fined before getting a foot massage? Is the 400 baht the normal bar fine price? Seems like a sweet deal.
4 K for ST with a beer bar girl? Seems that they were really convinced you were a newbie, but we've all been through these kind of girls, asking too much and not wanting to negotiate at all.I am sure they could "smell" new guy on me, but it take long for them to adopt an attitude when I respectfully tried to negotiate a more reasonable price. At that point I probably would have said no if they said they would go for free. Okay maybe not, but I was no longer interested. Funny thing it was a two different bars, on different streets so it wasn't like they could see me moving from bar to bar. It just felt like they were pissed at not having any customers. Too many options to deal with some (albeit it pretty) MILF with an attitude.
Explorer8939
07-02-23, 03:10
I should mention that Escape in Treetown has nudity after 8 pm.
AmericanThief
07-02-23, 14:31
Last trip was 2015. Only good memory was a threesome on Soi 6. Do they still take blokes upstairs for ST? Any new trends or price increases?
2018 was in BKK- quality was better but the Soi 6 videos keep popping up on my feed and they're influencing me to give it another go. I need to get out of China for a bit too.
Last trip was 2015. Only good memory was a threesome on Soi 6. Do they still take blokes upstairs for ST?Yes.
Any new trendsThey are pushing for drinks now, they push for the 5 racks of tequila shots (5 * 160 = 800 bahts).
Some bars have "drinks only" girls, which means these girls are ready to entertain you downstairs if you reward them with drinks but they won't go upstairs.
They might accept to be barfined though if you put the price (a lot of drinks plus a lot of money for her), most of these are the prettiest girls of the bar.
or price increases?Yes, rooms are usually 400 baht now. LDs are around 150,170 baht.
Many girls ask 1.5 K or 2 K, maybe even more and they are not even the most popular girls.
2018 was in BKK- quality was better but the Soi 6 videos keep popping up on my feed and they're influencing me to give it another go.You can still find good quality girls over there if you spend time and if you're lucky.
Chan Chalupa
07-02-23, 16:49
Oh my.
1. Asked one of the Desire Livestream Girls if they could be Barfined. She did not say Cannot. I guess it means the girl makes the call. No it was not Priew who I asked.
2. Little girl, a few bars down from desire, way Hotter than almost every one on Soi 6. Tannish- you know the drill. Original s.
To my surprise she said 1,900 right off the bat. 400 for room and 1,500 for her. Done deal.
During cross examination I think I know why she Charges 1,500 instead of 2 k. She is a Mommy. Hahaha. No way would I have known just by looking and feeling her up. Weird.
Very Good value.
I was getting discouraged walking up and down looking like an Idiot.
4. PalaceAgogo. Faces and bodies are out of this world compared to Bangkok and other 1st tier Pattaya Agogo s.
What's odd is the girls are way more Friendly. Weird like that.
No way would I have known just by looking and feeling her up. Weird.You could have asked.
[QUOTE=AmericanThief;2832155 Last trip was 2015. Only good memory was a threesome on Soi 6. Do they still take blokes upstairs for ST? Any new trends or price increases? YES to upstairs. I think it was 1500 baht plus 300 baht for the room. I had a nice one towards the end of the street (not the beach side). Have fun.
You never know what to expect in Pattaya. I stopped into a bar last night and ended up taking the cashier back to my hotel for a freebie.
Hey down and up, please do share hod you did that. Was she a pro or semi pro or just wanted a nice end to an evening. Share room activities and her body and looks.
If you are ok with that! Cheers SL.
You never know what to expect in Pattaya. I stopped into a bar last night and ended up taking the cashier back to my hotel for a freebie.
Explorer8939
07-03-23, 10:06
You never know what to expect in Pattaya. I stopped into a bar last night and ended up taking the cashier back to my hotel for a freebie.I presume you waited until the bar closed, and then the accounts were tallied, before heading to the hotel.
Hey down and up, please do share hod you did that. Was she a pro or semi pro or just wanted a nice end to an evening. Share room activities and her body and looks.
If you are ok with that! Cheers SL.I can't go into details as it might get back to the bar. What I will say is that she was a bar girl and I was her first customer that took her upstairs but she did not do well so moved to become a cashier.
I presume you waited until the bar closed, and then the accounts were tallied, before heading to the hotel.She finished early as the bar was quiet so it was not too late.
Chan Chalupa
07-04-23, 06:45
I can't go into details as it might get back to the bar. What I will say is that she was a bar girl and I was her first customer that took her upstairs but she did not do well so moved to become a cashier.
She finished early as the bar was quiet so it was not too late.How can you be considered a Customer if it was Free?
Are you saying in her whole Career she couldn't get 1 customer?
Is she that unattractive. I had to ask. LOL.
Footnote. On my last post where I got a Hot Doy 6 girl for 1,500.
An Arab or guy from that continent where they emit Aroma barfined a girl from same Bar. I always wondered who barfined them. Now I know first hand.
She was might most would say a One on the 1-10 scale. Short, dark, facial features not nice. Etc.
Chan Chalupa
07-04-23, 14:37
VVBG, next door to XS at beginning of Walk Street is no more. Looks oddly closed.
Went in once by accident, can't say I'm surprised.
Jimmy Boy 99
07-04-23, 15:19
Came to XS a gogo and saw that Ivygo next to it is closed. Low season kills another one?
Mr Enternational
07-04-23, 15:38
I can't go into details as it might get back to the bar. What I will say is that she was a bar girl and I was her first customer that took her upstairs but she did not do well so moved to become a cashier.
She finished early as the bar was quiet so it was not too late.LOL. You first made it seem like the chick was a total stranger that you hooked up with. Maybe you paid enough the first time for her to stretch it over 2 sessions.
Mr Enternational
07-04-23, 15:42
Came to XS a gogo and saw that Ivygo next to it is closed. Low season kills another one?Low season or a poor business model coupled with oversaturation?
How can you be considered a Customer if it was Free?
Are you saying in her whole Career she couldn't get 1 customer?
Is she that unattractive. I had to ask. LOL.
.He was her first customer when she.
Was a bar girl.
First doesn't mean the only one.
He got the freebie years later and she is the cashier.
Explorer8939
07-04-23, 17:59
The High Season of a few months ago enticed a lot of people into investing in new bars that opened after high season.
Now that Low Season is here, bars are closing left and right.
Of course, it's a great time to be a customer in Pattaya.
The High Season of a few months ago enticed a lot of people into investing in new bars that opened after high season.
Now that Low Season is here, bars are closing left and right.
Of course, it's a great time to be a customer in Pattaya.Dude, I'm not really one to talk, being fat and funny looking, but some of the Soi 6 bars have been parading their girls on InstaG and we are talking cattle calls. 1 Twelve parade and one is doable to me, meaning she is slim and attractive and under 30. Are we gaining weight and age out there? I always say I'm going to go again, altho I never do, I'm beginning to see why.
LittleBigMan
07-05-23, 02:24
It should not be uncommon! My experience is someone who you picked up like a cashier has at some point been in contact with someone who has or been in the business in the past and that includes factory girls, real estate, and waitresses. I would say a number of girls who are waitresses at High Roller used to dance at Bacarra, pre covid now just happy to make a monthly as a waitress, one Mamasan at Peppermint used to be a showgirl at Bacarra. I know a few who during Covid went home and just got used to not laying on their backs living with a lot less money note these are the ones who saved a bit purchased a home or had them build on their parent's land if they are lucky so their expenses are reduced that they no longer want to return.
But given their background like a cashier there is an opportunity for they will go with you. I keep in contact with a few as noted above know where they lived not far from Bangkok whenever I overnight there try to arrange if they agree to come down from their farm for a night or two. Just last week at a GoGo, a regular dancer in the past now comes up to me she is tired of dancing and became just a hostess, a bit less money but she is happy and indicated if I wanted her to go she would. This was the same girl whose Boy Friend didn't like her working at a popular bar on Soi Pothole because the contract was too drink-oriented she came home drunk each night but had no problem working at a GoGo getting ST each night. I guess he was a bit upset when she came home too drunk to give him some.
Sad, about IIvy, a girl I use to see regularly came back down to work, older she was not able to get jobs dancing any longer at top places offered a job by Mamasan former one from Bacarra basically charity to welcome girl in front.
I for one am very grateful that individuals open bars and clubs even if I were a billion I would never buy one even for a tax write-off. I've known guys who have owned GoGo, on a personal level and came away with " more money than brains " They got the Wannabe owners, and the group on Soi Six has netted more share of those suckers. It is as Mr. E. noted too many after the opening rents were much lower so many jump but basically off the cliff.
Explorer8939
07-05-23, 07:26
I always wonder if low volume ladies who don't have a Thai man look forward to getting laid. I'm not talking about 20 years working Soi 6, but ladies too old to have lots of customers, and who can't afford to support a Thai man.
Or are they so burnt out from their job that sex is just a job?
I suspect that ladies who are older, but came to Pattaya late in life, but don't have a Thai man, indeed want one night with a man at least once a week or so. If that man is a customer, okay. Better if he is a Customer Before.
Then there are the 25 year olds who go to Insomnia after work, get drunk and end up with a young Farang for free. But that is part of their boyfriend search, not due to being horny.
MartinFlevo
07-05-23, 09:21
Came to XS a gogo and saw that Ivygo next to it is closed. Low season kills another one?No closed for one day after police found a 16 y old lady working there. Should have paid a huge fine that's why they only seem to close for ONE day (same for MOON = same owner).
Mr Enternational
07-05-23, 13:54
Dude, I'm not really one to talk, being fat and funny looking, but some of the Soi 6 bars have been parading their girls on InstaG and we are talking cattle calls. 1 Twelve parade and one is doable to me, meaning she is slim and attractive and under 30. Are we gaining weight and age out there? I always say I'm going to go again, altho I never do, I'm beginning to see why.I always ask well how many do you plan to fuck? I do not mind going to a restaurant that does not have 100 good things on the menu. I am perfectly fine going there to eat the one good meal they have.
I can't go into details as it might get back to the bar. What I will say is that she was a bar girl and I was her first customer that took her upstairs but she did not do well so moved to become a cashier......Seeing that she is no longer a bar girl and her income has been considerably reduced I hope you gave her a tip for her efforts.
Jimmy Boy 99
07-05-23, 14:46
No closed for one day after police found a 16 y old lady working there. Should have paid a huge fine that's why they only seem to close for ONE day (same for MOON = same owner).Yes, open again.
Jimmy Boy 99
07-05-23, 15:00
No nude or even topless girls at the original Windmill. The cops clamping down on it?
Jimmy Boy 99
07-05-23, 15:16
No nude or even topless girls at the original Windmill. The cops clamping down on it?Nudity is back upstairs but not downstairs. No idea what is going on.
Chan Chalupa
07-05-23, 17:31
Seeing that she is no longer a bar girl and her income has been considerably reduced I hope you gave her a tip for her efforts.If he gave a tip then he can't say it was Free.
Good call on Uvy Agogo. Open Tonight.
Tantra closed for renovations.
I like one Girl in Pacha among the non descripts but I guess guys just don't like the place. I was check number16 well past 10.30 pm.
IDs were checked at Palace Agogo. To be exact a sample of one was checked.
FROGGER bar must be losing tons and tons of baht. Too nice a place to have old and uglies working there. The girls up front were Explorer kind of girls. No offense.
Explorer8939
07-06-23, 01:21
I always wonder if low volume ladies who don't have a Thai man look forward to getting laid. I'm not talking about 20 years working Soi 6, but ladies too old to have lots of customers, and who can't afford to support a Thai man.
Or are they so burnt out from their job that sex is just a job?
I suspect that ladies who are older, but came to Pattaya late in life, but don't have a Thai man, indeed want one night with a man at least once a week or so. If that man is a customer, okay. Better if he is a Customer Before.
Then there are the 25 year olds who go to Insomnia after work, get drunk and end up with a young Farang for free. But that is part of their boyfriend search, not due to being horny.When I wrote this, I was thinking of one older low volume bargirl who is a good fuck, but always goes for the quick finish (which I don't mind). She claims to live with her daughter and no man, but I never see her horny.
Last night she came to my condo, and got so drunk that her daughter sent her Thai boyfriend to take her home.
Big oops for her, since she had been telling me stories for months about finishing with her Thai man.
I don't care if a lady has a Thai man, as long as it doesn't interfere with her ability to work.
Chan Chalupa
07-06-23, 06:56
High Thais.
Hotel around Central. $15.65 a night.
Last time I stayed here it was a struggle checking in. The receptionist kept say I was giving her the money so no receipt needed.
Pretty sure she was High. Lucky a non high Thai friend was there and help me get checked in.
Same lady today and I thought maybe I should Run. Hahaha.
Everything went smooth as can be.
Bam Boom Bam
07-06-23, 09:10
I'll answer from a gogo bar perspective. No drink is required for the girl. Be like the Japanese. They circle the stages 2 or 3 times and then just point. Mamasans know this is cash in their pocket and race to the Japanese guy to collect the barfine. Some girls may require you to buy them drinks. The number of drinks vary depending on how big a chump the girl thinks you are. Seen guys buy 20 "drinks" before a girl would BF.
Some gogo bars collect the entire amount up front. Some only collect the barfine portion and you pay the girl her portion after.
LT does not necessarily mean the next day. If the girl can't stand your face LT could be 3 hours. Best to clarify this before you take her. It's why although not necessary at least 1 drink before pulling the trigger is a smart investment imo. Again, LT could be 3 hours it could be until they have to go back to work the next day. All depends on many factors like how much they like your company, how much you're feeding them, how nice your hotel is, if they have a Thai BF waiting for them to come home to look after her kid, etc. You can eat any time in that period. It's your time with the girl you can have sex or go eat. Up to you.I'm pretty sure that some of the Walking Street agogos like Palace have a 5 lady drink minimum before you can barfine them.
Bam Boom Bam
07-06-23, 09:16
Oh my.
1. Asked one of the Desire Livestream Girls if they could be Barfined. She did not say Cannot. I guess it means the girl makes the call. No it was not Priew who I asked.
2. Little girl, a few bars down from desire, way Hotter than almost every one on Soi 6. Tannish- you know the drill. Original s.
To my surprise she said 1,900 right off the bat. 400 for room and 1,500 for her. Done deal.
During cross examination I think I know why she Charges 1,500 instead of 2 k. She is a Mommy. Hahaha. No way would I have known just by looking and feeling her up. Weird.
Very Good value.
I was getting discouraged walking up and down looking like an Idiot.
4. PalaceAgogo. Faces and bodies are out of this world compared to Bangkok and other 1st tier Pattaya Agogo s.
What's odd is the girls are way more Friendly. Weird like that.Did you ask the Desire girl in chat during the live stream? They do not answer barfine questions during the live stream. You will have to go to Desire and ask them off camera.
Bam Boom Bam
07-06-23, 13:40
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Mr Enternational
07-06-23, 19:59
Five minutes after I leave Red Point, I'm on a Baht bus. All of a sudden, I get a severe sore throat. It's even a little painful. The Screamer Girl gave me something. The sore throat lasts almost 24 hours.Sir it takes more than 5 minutes to feel the effects of a disease that you pick up from someone. Hell it takes more than 5 minutes to shit out something that you eat. You should rewind a few days and ponder where you really got it from instead of willy nilly pointing the finger.
Another trip upcoming. Last one Oct 22 (see lengthy summary) http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?2186-Pattaya-Reports&p=2753923&viewfull=1#post2753923.
Wondered if I could ask members of the forum, and particularly those living in Pattaya to give opinions on the best 3 Gents clubs.
Last time, as I reported, I found High Rollers to be head and shoulders above the rest for quality, facilities (x2 pool tables) and girls.
I wan't a fan of Maggie Mays (too small).
Buzzin Lounge and Cat Flaps were not open then.
For me, the Gents club needs to have (1) sexy pretty girls (2) pool tables (3) on site rooms for fun.
That rules out Buzzin Lounge as I wouldn't fancy the "behind the curtain" almost public experience.
Can regulars at the Gents clubs give an update from a year ago? Any change? Better or worse clubs? New clubs?
Much appreciated.
Separately, what is the best karaoke bar in Pattaya?
Thanks.
Bam Boom Bam
07-06-23, 23:57
My first time going to Red Point Bar. Actually, I went blind without knowing anything, which probably wasn't too smart. There are about eight girls sitting on chairs outside. They aren't very attractive. One of them is giving me a big smile. So I just grab her and take her inside. I should have talked to her outside first. Inside, the girl tells me it's 420 Baht for the room and 1,000 Baht for her.
In the room upstairs, I kind of regret my choice. The girl is ugly as hell and she does not have a nice body. But after shower, I can tell she is very willing to please me. BBBJ & DFK are included. Most girls just wait when you put a condom on. But this girl was licking my balls when I was putting on the condom.
I insert my dick in her pussy and start pounding away. This girl is a screamer. I've been looking for a screamer all my life. I don't last long because this is the first fuck of my trip.
Bam Boom Bam
07-07-23, 00:02
The next day, I go back to Red Point Bar but the Screamer Girl is not to be seen outside. I make the mistake of choosing another girl sitting outside. But she looks sad and depressed. She should have said no if she didn't like me. Anyway, we go upstairs. I slap her ass real hard to get a reaction from her. I get nothing. In the room, she looks sad and depressed the whole time. Maybe even a little scared.
Again, BBBJ & DFK. I finish and give her 1,000 Baht. On the way out, I see Screamer Girl from the previous day having a drink with a customer. She sees me, makes a slight guilty face, and looks away.
Bam Boom Bam
07-07-23, 00:20
Another trip upcoming. Last one Oct 22 (see lengthy summary) http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?2186-Pattaya-Reports&p=2753923&viewfull=1#post2753923.
Wondered if I could ask members of the forum, and particularly those living in Pattaya to give opinions on the best 3 Gents clubs.
Last time, as I reported, I found High Rollers to be head and shoulders above the rest for quality, facilities (x2 pool tables) and girls.
I wan't a fan of Maggie Mays (too small).
Buzzin Lounge and Cat Flaps were not open then.
For me, the Gents club needs to have (1) sexy pretty girls (2) pool tables (3) on site rooms for fun.
That rules out Buzzin Lounge as I wouldn't fancy the "behind the curtain" almost public experience.
Can regulars at the Gents clubs give an update from a year ago? Any change? Better or worse clubs? New clubs?
Much appreciated.
Separately, what is the best karaoke bar in Pattaya?
Thanks.You should go to The Den. They newly renovated at the end of last year. However, all the ladies I talked to demanded 2,000 Baht for action upstairs. It should be 1,000 Baht on Soi Chaiyapoon.
I have not been to the Buzzin Lounge. But since they have a guesthouse upstairs. I'm quite sure you can use the rooms for action on site.
Chan Chalupa
07-07-23, 01:04
Did you ask the Desire girl in chat during the live stream? They do not answer barfine questions during the live stream. You will have to go to Desire and ask them off camera.I asked about Barfining face to face downstairs.
If you fancy someone you can call them downstairs to chat live and in person,. Not Free of course.
Agogo named Palace last night. It was like Rainbow in Nana Plaza. In 30 minutes I counted 8 Barfine s. The Indian fellow don't fool around. I swear 15 minutes out the bar and back in. On his return he was so Happy he was tipping girls on stage 20 baht each.
Has the barfine been reduced to 1,000 baht.
Chan Chalupa
07-07-23, 01:11
Another trip upcoming. Last one Oct 22 (see lengthy summary) http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?2186-Pattaya-Reports&p=2753923&viewfull=1#post2753923.
Wondered if I could ask members of the forum, and particularly those living in Pattaya to give opinions on the best 3 Gents clubs.
Last time, as I reported, I found High Rollers to be head and shoulders above the rest for quality, facilities (x2 pool tables) and girls.
I wan't a fan of Maggie Mays (too small).
Buzzin Lounge and Cat Flaps were not open then.
For me, the Gents club needs to have (1) sexy pretty girls (2) pool tables (3) on site rooms for fun.
That rules out Buzzin Lounge as I wouldn't fancy the "behind the curtain" almost public experience.
Can regulars at the Gents clubs give an update from a year ago? Any change? Better or worse clubs? New clubs?
Much appreciated.
Separately, what is the best karaoke bar in Pattaya?
Thanks.I walked past Buzzin Lounge by accident. It's what I would say in a Sleazy Part of town. Not dangerous but just seedy.
I peeked in from afar. Not a Pretty Lady in sight. ,no offense. Buzzin is one of those guys who thinks everyone is HOT.
Explorer8939
07-07-23, 02:36
Buying drinks for ladies online. Yeah, I know its stupid, but I am wondering if any bars are still doing this.
Explorer8939
07-07-23, 04:10
Another trip upcoming. Last one Oct 22 (see lengthy summary) http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?2186-Pattaya-Reports&p=2753923&viewfull=1#post2753923.
Wondered if I could ask members of the forum, and particularly those living in Pattaya to give opinions on the best 3 Gents clubs.
Last time, as I reported, I found High Rollers to be head and shoulders above the rest for quality, facilities (x2 pool tables) and girls.
I wan't a fan of Maggie Mays (too small).
Buzzin Lounge and Cat Flaps were not open then.
For me, the Gents club needs to have (1) sexy pretty girls (2) pool tables (3) on site rooms for fun.
That rules out Buzzin Lounge as I wouldn't fancy the "behind the curtain" almost public experience.
Can regulars at the Gents clubs give an update from a year ago? Any change? Better or worse clubs? New clubs?
Much appreciated.
Separately, what is the best karaoke bar in Pattaya?
Thanks.Club Fate on Soi Boomerang meets your requirements.
Explorer8939
07-07-23, 04:19
The 3 Day Rule exists for a good reason: many ladies get antsy after a couple of days with a customer.
The question is: why?
Sometimes its the discomfort of being around a stranger for 24 hours. Sometimes its the loss of control, having someone tell you what to do all the time.
But often, they miss their boyfriend and / or they are horny, and customer fucks don't help.
Chan Chalupa
07-07-23, 05:22
My first time going to Red Point Bar. Actually, I went blind without knowing anything, which probably wasn't too smart. There are about eight girls sitting on chairs outside. They aren't very attractive. One of them is giving me a big smile. So I just grab her and take her inside. I should have talked to her outside first. Inside, the girl tells me it's 420 Baht for the room and 1,000 Baht for her.
In the room upstairs, I kind of regret my choice. The girl is ugly as hell and she does not have a nice body. But after shower, I can tell she is very willing to please me. BBBJ & DFK are included. Most girls just wait when you put a condom on. But this girl was licking my balls when I was putting on the condom.
I insert my dick in her pussy and start pounding away. This girl is a screamer. I've been looking for a screamer all my life. I don't last long because this is the first fuck of my trip.Price got you Huh. Hahaha.
I nominate this post for Distinction award.
Bam Boom Bam
07-07-23, 06:11
Buying drinks for ladies online. Yeah, I know its stupid, but I am wondering if any bars are still doing this.There are at least three bars that are still live streaming.
Desire Bar on Soi 6.
Sexy Bar on Soi Made in Thailand.
Blue Moon Bar, also on Soi Made in Thailand.
Bam Boom Bam
07-07-23, 06:19
Sir it takes more than 5 minutes to feel the effects of a disease that you pick up from someone. Hell it takes more than 5 minutes to shit out something that you eat. You should rewind a few days and ponder where you really got it from instead of willy nilly pointing the finger.I want to reply but I can't because apparently it is against forum rules to discuss this topic.
Bam Boom Bam
07-07-23, 06:24
The 3 Day Rule exists for a good reason: many ladies get antsy after a couple of days with a customer.
The question is: why?
Sometimes its the discomfort of being around a stranger for 24 hours. Sometimes its the loss of control, having someone tell you what to do all the time.
But often, they miss their boyfriend and / or they are horny, and customer fucks don't help.I thought the 3 Day Rule exists to protect the monger. No girl is going to say, "You cannot barfine me again because you've barfined me 3 days already. ".
The girl might refuse a repeat barfine the next day if you treated her badly.
Bam Boom Bam
07-07-23, 06:34
This time I'm in Soi 6 in the evening. I drank a beer or two so I do not think that I can get it up. I end up at Red Point once again. This night, I see a hot girl standing outside, leaning slightly against the railing. I tell her I want a blowjob, one shot in the mouth. No boom boom. She says, 1,500 Baht. I tell her why? I know it's 1,000 Baht. I expect her to stand her ground. But immediately, she says, "OK, 1,000 Baht".
After about ten minutes of her sucking on my cock, I still cannot come. She asks if I want boom boom. Yeah, I want but I know it's not going to work because of the beer I drank. Anyway, I put on a condom and try to fuck her. She's is also a screamer although not as loud as the original Screamer Girl. Just like I predict, my dick goes limp after two minutes.
Posh Girl says she will smoke my dick again. So I quickly wash my dick and she starts sucking on my dick again. I think she can tell I will never come tonight. She says she has to go downstairs in ten minutes. Ok, whatever. That was more effort than I had expected from her.
I want to come back and fuck this girl when I'm sober because she's also a screamer.
LittleBigMan
07-07-23, 07:21
Club Fate on Soi Boomerang meets your requirements.I would think if MaggIe May too small, Club Fate is bigger?
I was in pattaya for 3 months in 2021 during the pandemic and I really enjoyed doing the TF thing. There weren't many other options at the time and I liked the privacy of the experience. Also found a couple great girls who allowed videotaping and BBFS / CIP / CIM. The only downside was the low number of available girls that interested me.
But now I go on TF and there seems to be many more girls in Pattaya. The problem is I'll be in Bangkok and the TF scene there isn't as good.
Has anyone tried to get girls to come to Bangkok for the taxi fare and some extra cash? Unfortunately, I'm staying with my brother and he has kids, so I would need to meet her at a ST hotel. Is this possible? Seems like the cost of the taxi and some extra cash might even out the higher cost of girls in Bangkok. It's just a thought rattling around in my head.
What do you guys think?
Buzzin is one of those guys who thinks everyone is HOT.Stand guys who look like Buzzin and me beside most of these girls and by contrast the girls don't look too bad. LOL.
Bam Boom Bam
07-07-23, 12:48
This time, I go back to Red Point looking for Posh Girl. I even enter inside and ask the cashier if Posh Girl is working. The cashier says Posh Girl is not working that day. Instead of going to another Soi 6 bar, I choose another girl at Red Point. Maybe it is my goal to fuck every single one of them.
I will call this girl Modest Girl. She is actually quite pretty. But she is not young, maybe around 35 years old and gaining weight, like most Soi 6 girls. Since this girl is Modest Girl, nothing really stands out with her. But of all the Red Point girls I fuck, I find her to be the most ladylike.
Modest Girl appears in this video at minute mark 7. 17. She is the first girl sitting down seated closest to Toy Box. It looks like she is wearing a bunny ears hairband.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-KJQG0riv8&t=436s
Maybe a stupid question, and I hope I don't get slammed for asking. But on my bucket list is to be with a midget. Making my first trip to Thailand in November. Is there any place in pattaya that has midget woman. Like I mean legal midget woman.
Maybe a stupid question, and I hope I don't get slammed for asking. But on my bucket list is to be with a midget. Making my first trip to Thailand in November. Is there any place in pattaya that has midget woman. Like I mean legal midget woman.On Thai friendly, if you set up an account, you can search by height. I had one girl who was like 4'6" the last time I was in Pattaya. Her name was Mint, I believe (with a number attached because there are so many Mints). Really cute girl with blonde hair. I tried to see her again, but she got covid and was in the hospital for a while. Not great service, but good enough to repeat. I remember cleaning my cum from all over her back with a clean towel. She gave me a really sweet "thank you" when I was done.
Anyway, that would be my approach, depending on what size girl you are looking for.
Maybe a stupid question, and I hope I don't get slammed for asking. But on my bucket list is to be with a midget. Making my first trip to Thailand in November. Is there any place in pattaya that has midget woman. Like I mean legal midget woman.There was one in the "unreal bar" in soi LK in May, don't know if she is still around.
Beware she is the opposite of what one would call a standard pretty Thai woman.
Instead of going to another Soi 6 bar, I choose another girl at Red Point. Maybe it is my goal to fuck every single one of them.Thanks for these reports on soi 6 girls.
If you fancy the RedPoint bar, there is a nice one if you want to try her.
She might be the girl sitting behind the fat girl standing with the yellow dress (the girl masking her face with her hand) at the minute 7.20 on your video.
English is OK, late twenties, small and tiny with great firm ass (silicone boobs, not the best ones), face is ok and very cute.
I've had a few great sessions with her in May, I won't give too much details about her to keep her privacy but I was very satisfied with her, you might try her if you like slim girls (but she is short).
Chan Chalupa
07-07-23, 23:46
Maybe a stupid question, and I hope I don't get slammed for asking. But on my bucket list is to be with a midget. Making my first trip to Thailand in November. Is there any place in pattaya that has midget woman. Like I mean legal midget woman.Soi 6 Midget's.
There was one very small girl last week. She stood out among Giants.
Don't know if was technically a Midget.
Not a looker. Hahaha.
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