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ElMexicant
10-22-23, 01:55
Remember when they tore down all the bars on Soi Made in Thailand running between Central Festival Second Road and Buakhao? Everyone thought Chinese bought up the land and new condos were being built. It was annoying because that was a nice little short cut that was blocked off for awhile at the old mini Tesco Lotus (gone now). But anywho. It's open again with reconstruction and renovation. New name is Beertown and has a shit load of new beer bars. I never went there prior, so I don't plan on going anytime in the future. But at least one of my short cuts is back open again. So Soi Made in Thailand is open and alive. Nice little local Thai eatery in the middle of the action there as well.
Mr Enternational
10-22-23, 02:05
If instead you go back in a cheerful and happy mood, joking about the whole thing as if it's nothing (and it ain't) if she brings it up, she will on the other hand most likely very quickly take her queue from you and you can laugh about it together.Yep. Then say your friend like to boom boom ass and I like too much.
ElMexicant
10-22-23, 02:06
Arriving Pattaya first time on November 1st. It Would be nice to be accompanied with an experienced monger.
Please contact me / Thanks.At this point, any super experienced and seasoned vet in Pattaya will tell you, "help, guidance, and pointers" for newbies only drives up the prices for the ones who have served their due diligence all these years. What do you think happens if I find a solid gem for a bargain price and decide to share it? So long story short, expertise and advice always comes at a price. Our time and knowledge is costly. But there is at least enough info on the forum to have a good time even though you may be getting scammed into oblivion. You won't catch on until years from now anyways. By then, hindsight is 20/25.
I went back to the bar last night. Apparently the two girls had compared notes because they both knew what happened with the other back at my motel. I'm guessing they had already agreed between themselves that a threesoms was OK, because I barely mentioned it and it was accepted as what we were going to do. I won't go into much of the details of the sex as that probably varies so much with the specific situation. But the outline of the evening is we left bar and went to 7-11 for some snacks and beer then to motel. I took a shower with the pretty one then she and I started while the first girl took a shower then joined us. Then a lot of fun happened.
Later there was a little drama because first girl thought I was paying to much attention to pretty girl as we were positioning to sleep. A person can't sleep and hold two girls at the same time. But that worked itself out.
The costs for those who want to know was 300 thb barfine for each girl, about 600 baht for drinks at bar, 320 baht at 7-11, and each wanted 1500 but I gave 2000 thb to each.
In other news I went to a different bar earlier in the night and a pretty 40 year old motioned me in. A rather nice 52 year old kind of took over and we played two games of pool, but we managed to get it known that I was more interested in the 40 year old. After a couple of lady drinks I said I wanted to barfine her and she said she was on her period. She seemed enthusiastic I I come back in a week when that was over. Who knows if she was telling the truth or not. When I bought her lady drink she said she doesn't drink alcohol. She looked good and fit for that age. She helped me set up Line and I got her number. So I'll probably try again.
I'm off to Bangkok later today. I have never mongered there and probably won't do much this time. I want to retire next year and I'm trying to figure if Bangkok is place to do that.
I've been a member of this forum for years and appreciate all the advice. In particular Mr Enternational and Banana boi are two good reads and are helpful on advice or general knowledge of the area.
KrumeLurer
10-22-23, 06:43
The costs for those who want to know was 300 thb barfine for each girl, about 600 baht for drinks at bar, 320 baht at 7-11, and each wanted 1500 but I gave 2000 thb to each.
How old were this ladies and from what bar? Why are you paying double (or more) the money thaimen are paying?
I post som pictures here so people can see the prices asked on the thaimarket.
Explorer8939
10-22-23, 10:56
For the guys who find ladies on TF, Tinder, etc, do they ping you a few days later asking for a "date"? Over time, do you build up a rotation of ladies?
I am in Europe at the moment, and don't get back to Pattaya for another 4 days, but today, 3 ladies messaged me asking to come to my place when I return.
I guess the constant rain in Pattaya is impacting the number of customers coming to the bars.
Somebody ought to start this trend on beach road, would make it sooooo much better. 555.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FuiMQPc5aKA
Raj Patela
10-22-23, 13:49
Actually numbers.
Kelaya Bar 66 soi. 6.
10 days- 15,000 baht- 50 bdrinks.
15 days.
20 days- 20,000 baht-100 drinks.
Just me but sign 20 days should get better deal. Hahaha.
I don't see any Barfine quotas. Probably need see Mommy Son.
Raj Patela
10-22-23, 15:53
As are many bar girls and they are willing to come to you outside of "work " hours if you make it clear to them that you will not be paying a bar fine to see her.
Now just for observation, why do some think that where they source their prostitutes and how much they pay them makes them and their prostitutes better than some one else who does it a different way?. Not going to name names but you know who you are (not directed at you Explorer).You paying for Looks bro.
1,000 bahter tend to not have much.
Simple.
It doesn't make one better than another.
Looks is face and body, both matter.
Raj Patela
10-22-23, 16:07
How old were this ladies and from what bar? Why are you paying double (or more) the money thaimen are paying?
I post som pictures here so people can see the prices asked on the thaimarket.Why even post DuckFace Girl. Hahaha. Hahaha. Hahaha.
Banana Boi
10-22-23, 17:43
Why even post DuckFace Girl. Hahaha. Hahaha. Hahaha.Duck face is kind of cute. Nice big eyes, big lips.
I am traumatically confused why KrumeLure posted an ad for "A 16 year old boy" (3rd photo).
Kelaya Bar 66 soi. 6......I don't see any Barfine quotas. Probably need see Mommy Son.
My information is from when Kelaya 66 first opened (2018?) but barfine and girl rates were the same as Walking Street gogo bars. Kelaya opened across from the only gogo bar Soi 6 had, Dolls.
Bargirls do have Feelings,. Customers have feelings too. Have visited gogo bars with guys who without my knowing went with one of my regular girls. We walk in to the bar together and my regular girl comes straight to me and not to the guy who just handed her 5000 baht a few hours before. Wonder how that made the other guy feel?
Bargirls Feelings Matter.I see what you did there.
I've been a member of this forum for years and appreciate all the advice. In particular Mr Enternational and Banana boi are two good reads and are helpful on advice or general knowledge of the area.Thanks for the kind words. I agree that Mr. E is a valuable source of information.
Mr Enternational
10-22-23, 18:18
For the guys who find ladies on TF, Tinder, etc, do they ping you a few days later asking for a "date"?Yes, but I am the chooser, not the choosee.
Over time, do you build up a rotation of ladies?No. If I am paying then I like new. Unless I just have a "taste" for that particular chick on some random day.
For the guys who find ladies on TF, Tinder, etc, do they ping you a few days later asking for a "date"? Over time, do you build up a rotation of ladies?Yes they do. After a pleasurable encounter, I let them know that I was pleased. They usually stay in contact with me. I like it.
Yes, I have built up a rotation over time.
That is why I simply do not understand paying a bar fine. When I can get a girl (attractive attractive enough for me) to show up to my room wishing 30 minutes. Take care of me sexually and leave. No fuss no mess (except for the one I make in their mouth or on their face, ass or breasts).
Prefer a 6 that performs sexually like a 10 at the price point I want than a 10 who performs as 6.
I am buying sex, not eye candy. The problem I have found with girls who know they are attractive is poor sexual performance. Guys have been licking their ass all their lives and they think they can show up take off their clothes and just be there and that's all it takes. Nah, that does not work for me.
Price and performance for me are the most important factors for me. And I don't care if she is married, has a boyfriend or a sponsor. I am paying her to fuck right now. Not trying to solve the perceived problems of other punters up in here. And she better fuck me good!
You paying for Looks bro.No that is not what I am doing. You are doing that. You are paying for the looks that are important to you. I am paying for the looks that are important to you. What you cannot say is that the prostitutes you hire are more attractive than the prostitutes I hire. Why? Because you have only seen the prostitutes you hire. And those are the only ones you have fucked also.
1,000 bahter tend to not have much..That is your opinion.
Opinion - a view or judgment formed about something, not necessarily based on fact or knowledge..
I thank you for sharing. This is how I learn.
Simple.It sure is.
It doesn't make one better than another.I know this. That is why do you not see me making comments on the looks of the prostitutes you hire sight unseen. Why do you do it?.
Looks is face and body, both matter.They sure do. That is why I know you are paying substantially more than I am for the same pussy. Because you are not paying for pussy, you are paying for your fetish of whatever you consider a standard of beauty for the pussy life support system that you fuck. You are paying for the looks that gets YOUR dick hard. And I do not care that you are doing that. Because I only care about my dick.
Can you tell me Raj Raj why you are so worried about my dick?
I want new people to know you do not have to pay astronomical figures for pussy in Pattaya. I pay 1000 THB for pussy. I save the 1000 - 4000 THB others are paying and use it pay for my room, food, laundry, movies, transportation, made to measure clothing and more.
Hurting the feelings of a customer? I hope that was in jest. Lecturing guys on payments to Bar Girls? Are you serious? Talking the quality and looks of prostitutes others hire based on a price point? Get the fuck out of here!
Finally I will end by saying some of you all need a serious reality check. You are all tricks. That means nothing to brag about.
Pussy is Pussy in Pattaya and world over. The only difference is how much each individual chooses to pay for it.
Should've told her from the start that you're a butterfly. Most of these girls already know you'll be going around banging other girls, but doing so in the bar where they work causes them to lose some face in front of their colleagues. The situation is still salvageable if she a good performer and you want to keep things sweet with her.......If the girl's a great performer I will be hesitant to go back the next day and choose another girl. However, if a girl gives me bad service I will deliberately go back to the same bar and choose another.
My information is from when Kelaya 66 first opened (2018?) but barfine and girl rates were the same as Walking Street gogo bars. Kelaya opened across from the only gogo bar Soi 6 had, Dolls.It seems to be the case for most bars on the 6 now.
I've never been interrested in barfining over there but lately I've asked some prices out of curiosity.
And the quotes I've heard made me wonder: why in hell are there people barfining these girls?
MartinFlevo
10-22-23, 22:06
Actually numbers.
I don't see any Barfine quotas. Probably need see Mommy Son.Because barfines would actually be illigal. Put it on a sign "minimum x barfines" = Pimp behaviour and could give the bar a HUGE problem.
HorseTrader
10-22-23, 22:11
For the guys who find ladies on TF, Tinder, etc, do they ping you a few days later asking for a "date"? A few do, most do not.
I'm a tourist, perhaps 10-12 weeks per year in Thailand. My experiences are limited compared to some.
Raj Patela
10-23-23, 01:38
In the drizzle of the rain I made it to Palace and Fahrenheit last night.
Palace. One girl who has an above avg face got Barfined. Not a Usual ho hum for her.
Fahrenheit. Now I know why Girls gor for SillyCobes. No offense to you Woke out there.
Flat is just not Attractive. Hahaha. I could see making deals with them to avoid hefty Barfine.
Why even post DuckFace Girl. Hahaha. Hahaha. Hahaha.I get a bit of a Ladyboy vibe from the pic that shows a face. And, like Banana Boi referenced, why the one either asking for or representing themselves as "a 16 year old boy"?
BTW, just a general note to all, offering and paying money for sex to anyone under the age of 18 is illegal in Thailand. However, sex for love, sport or mere curiosity with someone (with their free consent) over the age of 15 is legal in Thailand. But not if the deal is for money, unless they are over age 18.
The issue regarding barfines would be it is legal for the bar to charge a fee to take a girl out of the bar during her regular work hours.
However, it is illegal for the mamasan, bar management or bar owners to profit in any way from the exchange of money for sex with the girl. That exchange is legal in Thailand only between the girl and her customer. It is illegal for anyone else, a third party, pimp, mamasan, agency, parent, boyfriend, whoever, to profit from the exchange.
So that is where the mamasan and the bar are taking a risk in demanding ALL of the money for the girl to have sex with a customer be paid to them upfront in the bar rather than just the barfine.
Aside from the demand probably having something to do with the mamasan wanting to rake off her 500 - 1000 baht commission right now before the girl disappears into the night perhaps never to return again, it strongly suggests the bar has a financial stake in their girls having sex for money, which would be illegal for the bar, not for the girl or the customer.
When cops raid the bars or agencies, they don't arrest the customers or the girls for "prostitution crimes. " For them, they really haven't committed a "prostitution crime" regarding the simple exchange of money for sex unless there is a criminal co-factor regarding age or coercion. They arrest the mamasans or bar owners for suspicion of them profiting from the exchange, which is a "prostitution crime. ".
Explorer8939
10-23-23, 05:55
Yes they do. After a pleasurable encounter, I let them know that I was pleased. They usually stay in contact with me. I like it.
Yes, I have built up a rotation over time.
That is why I simply do not understand paying a bar fine. When I can get a girl (attractive attractive enough for me) to show up to my room wishing 30 minutes. Take care of me sexually and leave. No fuss no mess (except for the one I make in their mouth or on their face, ass or breasts).It sounds like your MO is similar to mine, except you do 1000 baht ST, and I do 2000 baht LT.
I am not a big ST guy, because once you finish, what do you do for the next few hours? So, I have a lady in the early afternoon, and maybe finish with her in the late afternoon, she goes, and the next lady comes to spend the night.
Explorer8939
10-23-23, 06:02
A few do, most do not.
I'm a tourist, perhaps 10-12 weeks per year in Thailand. My experiences are limited compared to some.You don't have social media contacts for ladies you barfine? So you can arrange "dates" as soon as you arrive in Thailand?
Bro, have visited Pattaya multiple times but haven't deciphered the fines yet. Seems nightwish group bar fines are pretty steep. What time you pick the ladies to have fine around 300 BHT.
Are these screenshots from twitter. Do you mind sharing.
How old were this ladies and from what bar? Why are you paying double (or more) the money thaimen are paying?
I post som pictures here so people can see the prices asked on the thaimarket.
They play like that so that you keep coming back to them. Happened with me and picked up for straight 6 days, saw she did same with other men too. It's easier for them that way.
Bargirls do have Feelings,. They do get Hurt. Many times it' s over Stupid stuff but OP should be fine. Just don't inflame the Drama.
Bargirls Feelings Matter.
Ulalaulala123
10-23-23, 06:41
How do you spend your days in Pattaya after having visited a few times.
I have been to Pattaya 3 times in past and arrived again yesterday. On my 1st trip went for sightseeing mostly. In fact it was just 20% mongering. But from 2nd trip onward, I am only interested in banging chicks. Zero interest in anything else. I go to massage shop, do boom boom, eat when hungry, come hotel room, relax for few hours, go out again in search of pussy.
Just curious how others spend their time here!
Banana Boi
10-23-23, 07:54
It seems to be the case for most bars on the 6 now.I'm confused by your reply to my post. I said Kelaya 66 had the same barfine as a WS gogo bar. Ie 1000-2000 barfine plus 3000 ST, 5000 LT. You were quoted similar numbers at other Soi 6 bars?
How old were this ladies and from what bar? Why are you paying double (or more) the money thaimen are paying?
I post som pictures here so people can see the prices asked on the thaimarket.Can I know which social media they post and ID they mention on post works line app right?
JohnGreenChe
10-23-23, 09:59
Hey, I will be in Pattaya next week. Made some good contacts on TF which are too good looking at pic.
Just wanted to check if TF girls are genuine or few are fake.
Please share if you have any experiences with TF girls.
Thanks.
I do exactly the same but only bareback.
How do you spend your days in Pattaya after having visited a few times.
I have been to Pattaya 3 times in past and arrived again yesterday. On my 1st trip went for sightseeing mostly. In fact it was just 20% mongering. But from 2nd trip onward, I am only interested in banging chicks. Zero interest in anything else. I go to massage shop, do boom boom, eat when hungry, come hotel room, relax for few hours, go out again in search of pussy.
Just curious how others spend their time here!
JohnGreenChe
10-23-23, 10:06
Hey all,
Will be in action next week in Thailand.
Any suggestions on tab which can keep me erected for long with the lady.
Also, if I can get this from a medical store, any side effects 😃.
Thanks.
ChoduMadan
10-23-23, 10:37
Have been to Pattaya many times, best way is to find a nice chick and spend a night with her, you get a better one, can enjoy various things and also be relaxed alongside a beauty. Massage shops you get overused ones and mechanical stuff. TF is lovely place to find gems if you can work around it.
How do you spend your days in Pattaya after having visited a few times.
I have been to Pattaya 3 times in past and arrived again yesterday. On my 1st trip went for sightseeing mostly. In fact it was just 20% mongering. But from 2nd trip onward, I am only interested in banging chicks. Zero interest in anything else. I go to massage shop, do boom boom, eat when hungry, come hotel room, relax for few hours, go out again in search of pussy.
Just curious how others spend their time here!
Discount pictures by 50 %, it just gives an idea what they look like. Do not get excited and if you like a profile confirm with a video call. If they decline you go past them, and add their age by 5-8 on a lower side.
Hey, I will be in Pattaya next week. Made some good contacts on TF which are too good looking at pic.
Just wanted to check if TF girls are genuine or few are fake.
Please share if you have any experiences with TF girls.
Thanks.
Dangerous! You pay you fuck you move on. No point thinking what they think. And you'll never break their heart, they are used to it by now. A monger for a bargirl is just a commercial transaction for a few hours. She wouldn't even remember her clients from the last evening. I have done extensive mongering, I am happy with this formula but I guess to each his own. Just my 2 cents.
They play like that so that you keep coming back to them. Happened with me and picked up for straight 6 days, saw she did same with other men too. It's easier for them that way.
Raj Patela
10-23-23, 11:58
Seems we need to go over Pricing again. I'm reading things that are all over the place. Soi 6 and Walk Street are the same. Okay Buddy.
Give a general area and your thoughts on pricing and what you are getting.
Ex. We all are 100% agreed. Beach Road 3 fiddy to 1 k. Think Barrel of Bottom.
Try to get a nice lady for the room hoping she is can hold off a conversation in public. Convert it to a Long time session and ask her to show you places around. She'll be willing as long as you can spend well and not behave like a cheap charlie. Amount spent is just a fraction and rewards can be massive. I spent only 800-1200 on her food and drinks and the sex afterwards was insane. Sometimes its good to be in a beautiful company. Best luck.
How do you spend your days in Pattaya after having visited a few times.
I have been to Pattaya 3 times in past and arrived again yesterday. On my 1st trip went for sightseeing mostly. In fact it was just 20% mongering. But from 2nd trip onward, I am only interested in banging chicks. Zero interest in anything else. I go to massage shop, do boom boom, eat when hungry, come hotel room, relax for few hours, go out again in search of pussy.
Just curious how others spend their time here!
Many Beach Road freelancers are on TF or other social media sites, so its same same.Maybe this applies to the women over 35 on TF, but certainly not to the younger ones. I think 99% of the latter don't want to be found dead on Beach Road.
For the guys who find ladies on TF, Tinder, etc, do they ping you a few days later asking for a "date"? Over time, do you build up a rotation of ladies?Yes, most of them want to meet again, sometimes even the next day already. At least, if we had a good session the first time.
I always try to build up a rotation, but the problem is that many girls quit or 'vanish' sooner or later.
I am in Europe at the moment, and don't get back to Pattaya for another 4 days, but today, 3 ladies messaged me asking to come to my place when I return.
I guess the constant rain in Pattaya is impacting the number of customers coming to the bars.What constant rain? I'm in Pattaya since last Wednesday, and so far I've seen only two major thunder storms and some drizzling rain.
I guess there are just not enough mongers yet.
I'm confused by your reply to my post. I said Kelaya 66 had the same barfine as a WS gogo bar. Ie 1000-2000 barfine plus 3000 ST, 5000 LT. You were quoted similar numbers at other Soi 6 bars?
Seems we need to go over Pricing again. I'm reading things that are all over the place. Soi 6 and Walk Street are the same. Okay Buddy.
Give a general area and your thoughts on pricing and what you are getting.
Ex. We all are 100% agreed. Beach Road 3 fiddy to 1 k. Think Barrel of Bottom.Yep, both of you understood my post correctly.
Obviously I'm talking about barfine with taking the girl out of the bar for a big part or the day or the whole day or night, not the ST session upstairs.
I know the price of barfines in Nightwish, a tier price consisting in 2 K (from Monday to Thursday) and 2,5 K from Friday to Sunday (both of these are prices before 10 pm).
From 10 pm it drops to 1250 bahts or 1500 bahts depending on the day.
From midnight it drops to 800 or 1 K depending on the day.
Take in consideration that some bars close at midnight, some others at 1 am and some others at 2 am so the hours might differ depending on the closing time of the said bar.
These quotes were comfirmed by girls that I know well in Playpen, Utopia or 3 Angels near 2nd road.
You find these prices different to WS? Last trip in May I was in Iron and asked for barfine for ST past midnight, it was 1250 to the bar plus 2 K for the girl (I didn't pull the trigger).
Price for the girl is the most astonishing to me, I've heard 4 K in 3 Angels, 4 K in Poison (not even a good looking girl, BTW barfine is 2 K there and she asked 2 K for ST upstairs), 5 K from one of my repeat girl from this trip near Beach road side (she is not a bullshit girl so I believe her, and she told me she's been barfined a few times already).
When the girl told me 5 K + 2 K I asked her "and guys are paying these prices? She said of course, and looked at me like saying "you think I'm not worth it or what?
Now for ST I've rejected a lot of girls who are trying to start their pricing at 1500 and are not considering anything lower than that, if I feel like the girl is worth it I'll pay it but these girls were not worth it in my mind (either in looks or attitude, or I could feel the session would not be great upstairs). Other girls can easily ask for 2 K, these are the ones that take you for a sucker or girls that are eighteen year old.
Now both of you (or others on the ground), do your own researches, ask these girls price of BF plus what she expects to get for a night out (even if you're not intending to BF them), come back and report here and we'll see if what I've been quoted is different to what you're hearing, and in which bar precisely.
Last thing is that a lot of girls are getting barfined in the soi, which means a lot of guys are really paying these prices. We just don't realise it on this board because discussions are always polluted by cheap charlies boasting about their 1000 bahts TF trophies like they found a real gem in a sea full of shit, but a lot of guys are spending big bucks in the soi and girls and bar owners are catching up with that reality.
I personnaly don't think the trend will stop anytime soon, given the number of young K-dudes or Chinese dudes roaming the soi every day.
I understand it's a chess game between customers, girls and bar owners, but I personnaly think these two categories of customers are a big part in this up-pricing trend.
Just have a look at how many of these girls are completely uninterrested to anything that doesn't look like a guy from one of these two categories, it's not a personnal preference from the girl, it's just that these guys are the easiest targets these days.
HorseTrader
10-23-23, 16:29
You don't have social media contacts for ladies you barfine? So you can arrange "dates" as soon as you arrive in Thailand?Very seldom do I make social media contact with beer bar girls, agogo girls, or freelancers. Normally they are easily found at their post the next day and they are long gone before I make my next trip. There are so many choices throughout Thailand that I don't often miss a repeat with any one particular girl.
I do regret not getting Line contact from my favorite agogo girl from March 2023 and my favorite beer bar girl from November 2022. I'll be surprised if I ever see them again.
I have so many Line contacts with never-met non-pro potential holiday girlfriends that I don't remember who is who.
HorseTrader
10-23-23, 16:36
BTW, just a general note to all, offering and paying money for sex to anyone under the age of 18 is illegal in Thailand. However, sex for love, sport or mere curiosity with someone (with their free consent) over the age of 15 is legal in Thailand. But not if the deal is for money, unless they are over age 18.
The issue regarding barfines would be it is legal for the bar to charge a fee to take a girl out of the bar during her regular work hours.
However, it is illegal for the mamasan, bar management or bar owners to profit in any way from the exchange of money for sex with the girl. That exchange is legal in Thailand only between the girl and her customer. It is illegal for anyone else, a third party, pimp, mamasan, agency, parent, boyfriend, whoever, to profit from the exchange.
So that is where the mamasan and the bar are taking a risk in demanding ALL of the money for the girl to have sex with a customer be paid to them upfront in the bar rather than just the barfine.
Aside from the demand probably having something to do with the mamasan wanting to rake off her 500 - 1000 baht commission right now before the girl disappears into the night perhaps never to return again, it strongly suggests the bar has a financial stake in their girls having sex for money, which would be illegal for the bar, not for the girl or the customer.
When cops raid the bars or agencies, they don't arrest the customers or the girls for "prostitution crimes. " For them, they really haven't committed a "prostitution crime" regarding the simple exchange of money for sex unless there is a criminal co-factor regarding age or coercion. They arrest the mamasans or bar owners for suspicion of them profiting from the exchange, which is a "prostitution crime. ".Great report, thanks for writing. This is the first such post that was written well enough that it all makes sense.
Yep, both of you understood my post correctly.
Obviously I'm talking about barfine with taking the girl out of the bar for a big part or the day or the whole day or night, not the ST session upstairs.
I know the price of barfines in Nightwish, a tier price consisting in 2 K (from Monday to Thursday) and 2,5 K from Friday to Sunday (both of these are prices before 10 pm).
From 10 pm it drops to 1250 bahts or 1500 bahts depending on the day.
From midnight it drops to 800 or 1 K depending on the day.
Take in consideration that some bars close at midnight, some others at 1 am and some others at 2 am so the hours might differ depending on the closing time of the said bar.
These quotes were comfirmed by girls that I know well in Playpen, Utopia or 3 Angels near 2nd road.
You find these prices different to WS? Last trip in May I was in Iron and asked for barfine for ST past midnight, it was 1250 to the bar plus 2 K for the girl (I didn't pull the trigger).
Price for the girl is the most astonishing to me, I've heard 4 K in 3 Angels, 4 K in Poison (not even a good looking girl, BTW barfine is 2 K there and she asked 2 K for ST upstairs), 5 K from one of my repeat girl from this trip near Beach road side (she is not a bullshit girl so I believe her, and she told me she's been barfined a few times already).
When the girl told me 5 K + 2 K I asked her "and guys are paying these prices? She said of course, and looked at me like saying "you think I'm not worth it or what?On WS the bigger GoGo the going rate for models is 2-2. 5 K Barfine + 7 K for LT. People are absolutely paying these prices, me included. If that's the price of getting what I want then that's the price. I am not going to bother hunting for value when I am on vacation. It's over $300 for an hour with an average provider where I live.
MickeyDuck1208
10-23-23, 18:26
Hey mongers. Hope you are all boom booming well.
Have a short window (3-4 days) for a solo mongering trip. I have done BKK several times, was looking at Pattaya but wanted to see how a couple of points compare.
1. Conversation is important for me, during the pick up and after, have struggled a bit in places like Thermae, Fiwfans when the girl does not speak English but looks good and sexy. Have found spas and Nana plaza ones to be better at talking, but I am lazy and prefer to get to the job quick. Generally speaking, is English more widely spoken in Pattaya being a clubbing destination?
2. Going with my laziness, I prefer to be close to the action place. Was considering Marriott Courtyard (north pattaya), but looks a tad far from the Soi clubs I want to visit. Is traffic as bad or is it easy to get to the hotel?
3. Looking at the week of Nov 13 - first round drinks on me if anyone wants to hang out.
Safe mongering!!
Great report, thanks for writing. This is the first such post that was written well enough that it all makes sense.Thanks, Horse Trader.
Well, as long as I'm on a roll, I will add a general note about those occasional sweeps of street girls by the cops. LOL.
My previous post about this that you quoted from was regarding P4 P girls working in bars. I think that would also apply to escort agencies, massage shops, soapies, so-called Happy Ending shops and the like. It seems that is why Smooci is trying put a distance between itself and escort agencies of late.
And I should also stipulate that This Is Thailand, I could have it wrong on some meaningful detail or the law has been changed as of last month or some edict has been issued that supercedes traditional penal code and enforcement procedures. My notes are based on what I have read in the Thai Penal Code on the issue and the way it has virtually always turned out in terms of arrests and charges regarding "prostitution crimes" here.
So, about those occasions where the cops round up dozens of street girls in a single night in a surprise sweep on, say, Beach Road in Pattaya or Soi 4 or Sukhumvit Road in Bangkok. Don't the cops say they did it to "Crack down on prostitution" or some such thing and doesn't the media report it as such too?
Yes. Because they are being lazy and / or intentionally imprecise about it.
What they are really arresting the girls for is being prostitutes who are creating a public nuisance of their line of work..
See, the illegal part is the italicized part of that statement. It is not illegal to be a prostitute in Thailand. But it is illegal to create a public nuisance about it.
Of course, all it takes for street girls to become a public nuisance is for a nearby hotel, restaurant, residence or I suppose competing bar to lodge a complaint that it is getting so crowded with hookers out there their business' patrons feel intimidated or literally must run the gauntlet of hookers just to reach the entrance to their business.
Or the girls are getting so loud and vocal that the wives and girlfriends of male tourists are annoyed by all this shouting about "boom boom" and "blowjobs".
Anyone remember when the BJ Bars off Soi 8 in Bangkok had to close because the girls sitting outside had gotten too vocal with passersby about what was on offer inside? Then when they were allowed to reopen their style changed from shouting, waving and flagging over potential customers to whispering, "psst. Come inside. Blowjob. " For a while anyway. I think most Bangkok BJ Bar girls sitting outside their bar are still fairly low key and subdued about how they tout their offering compared to the way it was before some of those shops got busted and closed down a long while. And that was pre Covid.
They had been creating a public nuisance out of their business model and got busted for it.
Yes, sometimes those sweeps are also about suspected visa violations or age-related issues, same as some of the raids in the bars, massage shops, etc.
But, again, the busts are not exactly of legal age and properly visa'd girls and their customers for the exchange of money for sex. They are for something else only tangentially related to it.
Hey mongers. Hope you are all boom booming well.
Have a short window (3-4 days) for a solo mongering trip. I have done BKK several times, was looking at Pattaya but wanted to see how a couple of points compare.
1. Conversation is important for me, during the pick up and after, have struggled a bit in places like Thermae, Fiwfans when the girl does not speak English but looks good and sexy. Have found spas and Nana plaza ones to be better at talking, but I am lazy and prefer to get to the job quick. Generally speaking, is English more widely spoken in Pattaya being a clubbing destination?
2. Going with my laziness, I prefer to be close to the action place. Was considering Marriott Courtyard (north pattaya), but looks a tad far from the Soi clubs I want to visit. Is traffic as bad or is it easy to get to the hotel?
3. Looking at the week of Nov 13 - first round drinks on me if anyone wants to hang out.
Safe mongering!!1. No the English is not any better in general. Expect plenty of Google translate. I have met a couple girls in the GoGos that do have good English, usually have had a farang boyfriend.
2. Can call Bolt to get around, traffics can be pretty bad on the north end of Beach Road due to constant construction.
Banana Boi
10-23-23, 20:17
Going with my laziness, I prefer to be close to the action place. Was considering Marriott Courtyard (north pattaya), but looks a tad far from the Soi clubs I want to visit. Is traffic as bad or is it easy to get to the hotel?Great location if you want to be away from it all. Not sure how much walking you like but it's not even convenient to walk from that hotel to catch a baht bus at Dolphin round. I assume you're trying to use Marriot points but in Pattaya you're kind of out of luck if you want to be near action. Any hotel along the main baht bus route is doable. In Pattaya there are 3 main action spots, Walking Street, LK Metro / Treetown, and Soi 6. All 3 are easily accessible from the main baht bus route. Can traffic be bad. Yes especially during high season. It is especially bad south of Central Festival heading towards Walking Street. It's bearable from Soi 6 north to Dolphin round on both 2nd Road and Beach Road.
Most girls speak English quite well in Pattaya. Conversation is extremely important to me too if I plan on spending more than an hour with a girl. If I need to use Google Translate she's out unless it's just a quick bang on Soi 6 or a G Club. Best English is likely among the gogo girls. Of course if you are seeking girls over 22 they've been around long enough to all speak English.
I concur with what you said, that's why was taken back when people said they are paying 300 bhats. In my knowledge it's 1200 + 300 fine for ST upstairs.
Within a year I have seen fine raised from 500 bhats last year in one bar 11 pm to around 1250 bhats.
Bangkok still seems cheaper in terms of barfine but may catch up soon, though the city itself is damn expensive.
Yep, both of you understood my post correctly.
Obviously I'm talking about barfine with taking the girl out of the bar for a big part or the day or the whole day or night, not the ST session upstairs.
I know the price of barfines in Nightwish, a tier price consisting in 2 K (from Monday to Thursday) and 2,5 K from Friday to Sunday (both of these are prices before 10 pm).
From 10 pm it drops to 1250 bahts or 1500 bahts depending on the day.
From midnight it drops to 800 or 1 K depending on the day.
Take in consideration that some bars close at midnight, some others at 1 am and some others at 2 am so the hours might differ depending on the closing time of the said bar.
These quotes were comfirmed by girls that I know well in Playpen, Utopia or 3 Angels near 2nd road.
You find these prices different to WS? Last trip in May I was in Iron and asked for barfine for ST past midnight, it was 1250 to the bar plus 2 K for the girl (I didn't pull the trigger).
Price for the girl is the most astonishing to me, I've heard 4 K in 3 Angels, 4 K in Poison (not even a good looking girl, BTW barfine is 2 K there and she asked 2 K for ST upstairs), 5 K from one of my repeat girl from this trip near Beach road side (she is not a bullshit girl so I believe her, and she told me she's been barfined a few times already).
When the girl told me 5 K + 2 K I asked her "and guys are paying these prices? She said of course, and looked at me like saying "you think I'm not worth it or what?
Now for ST I've rejected a lot of girls who are trying to start their pricing at 1500 and are not considering anything lower than that, if I feel like the girl is worth it I'll pay it but these girls were not worth it in my mind (either in looks or attitude, or I could feel the session would not be great upstairs). Other girls can easily ask for 2 K, these are the ones that take you for a sucker or girls that are eighteen year old.
Now both of you (or others on the ground), do your own researches, ask these girls price of BF plus what she expects to get for a night out (even if you're not intending to BF them), come back and report here and we'll see if what I've been quoted is different to what you're hearing, and in which bar precisely.
Last thing is that a lot of girls are getting barfined in the soi, which means a lot of guys are really paying these prices. We just don't realise it on this board because discussions are always polluted by cheap charlies boasting about their 1000 bahts TF trophies like they found a real gem in a sea full of shit, but a lot of guys are spending big bucks in the soi and girls and bar owners are catching up with that reality.
I personnaly don't think the trend will stop anytime soon, given the number of young K-dudes or Chinese dudes roaming the soi every day.
I understand it's a chess game between customers, girls and bar owners, but I personnaly think these two categories of customers are a big part in this up-pricing trend.
Just have a look at how many of these girls are completely uninterrested to anything that doesn't look like a guy from one of these two categories, it's not a personnal preference from the girl, it's just that these guys are the easiest targets these days.
Google translator works well. You may find few speaking well but most don't.
If you can walk a bit, you can catch tuktuk to soi lane.
Hey mongers. Hope you are all boom booming well.
Have a short window (3-4 days) for a solo mongering trip. I have done BKK several times, was looking at Pattaya but wanted to see how a couple of points compare.
1. Conversation is important for me, during the pick up and after, have struggled a bit in places like Thermae, Fiwfans when the girl does not speak English but looks good and sexy. Have found spas and Nana plaza ones to be better at talking, but I am lazy and prefer to get to the job quick. Generally speaking, is English more widely spoken in Pattaya being a clubbing destination?
2. Going with my laziness, I prefer to be close to the action place. Was considering Marriott Courtyard (north pattaya), but looks a tad far from the Soi clubs I want to visit. Is traffic as bad or is it easy to get to the hotel?
3. Looking at the week of Nov 13 - first round drinks on me if anyone wants to hang out.
Safe mongering!!
Mr Enternational
10-23-23, 21:54
BTW, just a general note to all, offering and paying money for sex to anyone under the age of 18 is illegal in Thailand. However, sex for love, sport or mere curiosity with someone (with their free consent) over the age of 15 is legal in Thailand. But not if the deal is for money, unless they are over age 18.Is this really true? I told a story before about a young US Marine meeting a 16 year old onlin a couple years ago and him and his colleague hooking up with her and her friend. Her father found out and the guys were in deep shit. My buddy was called in by the Marines to translate a negotiation in the middle of the night. The US government had to pay I think $75,000 to the father to get those guys off the hook.
So that is where the mamasan and the bar are taking a risk in demanding ALL of the money for the girl to have sex with a customer be paid to them upfront in the bar rather than just the barfine.So how do the soapies get away with it?
HorseTrader
10-23-23, 23:54
2. Going with my laziness, I prefer to be close to the action place. Was considering Marriott Courtyard (north pattaya), but looks a tad far from the Soi clubs I want to visit. Is traffic as bad or is it easy to get to the hotel?A few months ago I stayed a bit north of your Marriot Courtyard and I took advantage of the frequent free shuttles to and from the action.
Bringing a girl from central Pattaya to my hotel was not practical, so I ended up renting dismal short term rooms. Next visit I'll stay somewhere between Soi 6 and Walking Street.
Raj Patela
10-24-23, 01:07
Yep, both of you understood my post correctly.
Obviously I'm talking about barfine with taking the girl out of the bar for a big part or the day or the whole day or night, not the ST session upstairs.
I know the price of barfines in Nightwish, a tier price consisting in 2 K (from Monday to Thursday) and 2,5 K from Friday to Sunday (both of these are prices before 10 pm).
From 10 pm it drops to 1250 bahts or 1500 bahts depending on the day.
From midnight it drops to 800 or 1 K depending on the day.
Take in consideration that some bars close at midnight, some others at 1 am and some others at 2 am so the hours might differ depending on the closing time of the said bar.
These quotes were comfirmed by girls that I know well in Playpen, Utopia or 3 Angels near 2nd road.
You find these prices different to WS? Last trip in May I was in Iron and asked for barfine for ST past midnight, it was 1250 to the bar plus 2 K for the girl (I didn't pull the trigger).
Price for the girl is the most astonishing to me, I've heard 4 K in 3 Angels, 4 K in Poison (not even a good looking girl, BTW barfine is 2 K there and she asked 2 K for ST upstairs), 5 K from one of my repeat girl from this trip near Beach road side (she is not a bullshit girl so I believe her, and she told me she's been barfined a few times already).
When the girl told me 5 K + 2 K I asked her "and guys are paying these prices? She said of course, and looked at me like saying "you think I'm not worth it or what?
Now for ST I've rejected a lot of girls who are trying to start their pricing at 1500 and are not considering anything lower than that, if I feel like the girl is worth it I'll pay it but these girls were not worth it in my mind (either in looks or attitude, or I could feel the session would not be great upstairs). Other girls can easily ask for 2 K, these are the ones that take you for a sucker or girls that are eighteen year old.
Now both of you (or others on the ground), do your own researches, ask these girls price of BF plus what she expects to get for a night out (even if you're not intending to BF them), come back and report here and we'll see if what I've been quoted is different to what you're hearing, and in which bar precisely.
Last thing is that a lot of girls are getting barfined in the soi, which means a lot of guys are really paying these prices. We just don't realise it on this board because discussions are always polluted by cheap charlies boasting about their 1000 bahts TF trophies like they found a real gem in a sea full of shit, but a lot of guys are spending big bucks in the soi and girls and bar owners are catching up with that reality.
I personnaly don't think the trend will stop anytime soon, given the number of young K-dudes or Chinese dudes roaming the soi every day.
I understand it's a chess game between customers, girls and bar owners, but I personnaly think these two categories of customers are a big part in this up-pricing trend.
Just have a look at how many of these girls are completely uninterrested to anything that doesn't look like a guy from one of these two categories, it's not a personnal preference from the girl, it's just that these guys are the easiest targets these days.I did not realize taking a Sou 6 or WS girl Long Time was so complicated. I don't do it.
Right now I'm in shock after seeing the Flat girls in Fahrenheit the other night. Is that what Baitoey looks like Nekkid. Hahaha. Hahaha.
I have so many Line contacts with never-met non-pro potential holiday girlfriends that I don't remember who is who.That's why I usually delete never-met girls, and make notes about the ones I did meet.
I concur with what you said, that's why was taken back when people said they are paying 300 bhats. In my knowledge it's 1200 + 300 fine for ST upstairs.
Within a year I have seen fine raised from 500 bhats last year in one bar 11 pm to around 1250 bhats.
Bangkok still seems cheaper in terms of barfine but may catch up soon, though the city itself is damn expensive.Bangkok, expensive? Compared to what? Still amazing value for hotels and food.
MickeyDuck1208
10-24-23, 03:08
Thanks fellas for the replies and DMs. Very helpful, will update on the places and action after the trip.
For the DMs on meet-up, I will reply back once my bookings are done.
Safe mongering!!
1. No the English is not any better in general. Expect plenty of Google translate. I have met a couple girls in the GoGos that do have good English, usually have had a farang boyfriend.
2. Can call Bolt to get around, traffics can be pretty bad on the north end of Beach Road due to constant construction.
Great location if you want to be away from it all. Not sure how much walking you like but it's not even convenient to walk from that hotel to catch a baht bus at Dolphin round. I assume you're trying to use Marriot points but in Pattaya you're kind of out of luck if you want to be near action. Any hotel along the main baht bus route is doable. In Pattaya there are 3 main action spots, Walking Street, LK Metro / Treetown, and Soi 6. All 3 are easily accessible from the main baht bus route. Can traffic be bad. Yes especially during high season. It is especially bad south of Central Festival heading towards Walking Street. It's bearable from Soi 6 north to Dolphin round on both 2nd Road and Beach Road.
Most girls speak English quite well in Pattaya. Conversation is extremely important to me too if I plan on spending more than an hour with a girl. If I need to use Google Translate she's out unless it's just a quick bang on Soi 6 or a G Club. Best English is likely among the gogo girls. Of course if you are seeking girls over 22 they've been around long enough to all speak English.
Google translator works well. You may find few speaking well but most don't.
If you can walk a bit, you can catch tuktuk to soi lane.
A few months ago I stayed a bit north of your Marriot Courtyard and I took advantage of the frequent free shuttles to and from the action.
Bringing a girl from central Pattaya to my hotel was not practical, so I ended up renting dismal short term rooms. Next visit I'll stay somewhere between Soi 6 and Walking Street.
Bangkok, expensive? Compared to what? Still amazing value for hotels and food.Personally prefer Bangkok over Pattaya. I will be in Thailand starting December 17th for 19 days, with 12 of those days in Bangkok. One week in Pattaya is just the right amount.
Is this really true? I told a story before about a young US Marine meeting a 16 year old onlin a couple years ago and him and his colleague hooking up with her and her friend. Her father found out and the guys were in deep shit. My buddy was called in by the Marines to translate a negotiation in the middle of the night. The US government had to pay I think $75,000 to the father to get those guys off the hook.
So how do the soapies get away with it?Tea money, perhaps. Also, TIT in the sense that the authorities are willing to look the other way if the trade is not creating a public nuisance about the services they offer. Same with massage shops, Happy Ending shops and BJ Bars. But BJ Bars have been shut down because the girls were too demonstrative and vocal with passersby about what they offer inside.
If a soapie erects a big, highly visible led banner highlighting the sex that can happen if you pay the fee to them, I would expect them to be shut down and the proprietors to be arrested for profiting or living off the proceeds of someone else engaging in an act of prostitution. But I would not expect the girls providing that service or the customers paying them for it to get arrested for that act of prostitution.
Keep it low key, the explicit description of it out of sight from general traffic flow, don't embarrass Thailand in the minds of casual tourists on the direct issue of paying money for sex, mask it behind the notion of merely providing entertainment, a massage or an assisted wash down bath and the authorities are likely to take a live and let live approach to it.
And tea money probably helps too.
After all, if there really is a law on the books making it a crime to exchange of sex for money between consenting adults who have not been coerced into it by a third party and with service providers who have a proper visa, why aren't soapies, massage shops, Happy Ending shops and BJ Bars shut down and the proprietors, girls and customers inside arrested for it every day?
Why aren't cops whose rent money is short by 1,000 - 2,000 baht this month riding up on their motorbikes next to farrang punters blatantly negotiating with street girls every hour to settle the penalty for their "crime" on the spot as quickly as they try to bust me on my motorbike for not wearing a helmet and not having a driver's license (it is an electric bicycle some cops mistake for a full size, regulation motorcycle. LOL) and what about the shakedowns where the cops are checking to see if you have contraband in your pocket or bag?
There is no effort by the cops to do that when an obvious act of prostitution is taking place in full view of them on Beach Road in Pattaya or on Soi 4 in Bangkok because there is no law on the books specifically criminalizing the act of prostitution.
Now, try negotiating such a thing in full view of a busload of tourists parked at the Grand Palace or a Temple and you and your street girl are probably going to find yourselves seized upon by every color uniformed officers and carted off to jail. The charge will be something like creating public nuisance related to the act of prostitution.
Is this really true? I told a story before about a young US Marine meeting a 16 year old onlin a couple years ago and him and his colleague hooking up with her and her friend. Her father found out and the guys were in deep shit. My buddy was called in by the Marines to translate a negotiation in the middle of the night. The US government had to pay I think $75,000 to the father to get those guys off the hook.
So how do the soapies get away with it?What was the online exchange with the girl about? Only sex for love? Or were there enough extenuating circumstances to support a case that your buddy, his friend and the 16 year old girl expected there to be some exchange of money or something else with monetary value for having sex with her? It could even be as much as previous online exchanges by those same guys on that same site with older girls where it was clear they were there to hook up with prostitutes and not to find a wife.
And you're talking about the military, right? The military might have a whole set of different rules about their property, the soldiers, interacting with girls of any age for any reason and the Thai authorities would be well aware of that too.
Explorer8939
10-24-23, 10:42
On WS the bigger GoGo the going rate for models is 2-2. 5 K Barfine + 7 K for LT. People are absolutely paying these prices, me included. If that's the price of getting what I want then that's the price. I am not going to bother hunting for value when I am on vacation. It's over $300 for an hour with an average provider where I live.Wow!
Are you from Korea?
Raj Patela
10-24-23, 13:28
Don't Fret.
9 girls at Showgirls. One stands out.
She got Barfined on Premises. Nit by a Korean. Nit by Sin, hkg, etc.
Best I could tell Ugly Mexican or Portuguese.
Explorer8939
10-24-23, 14:21
Thanks, Horse Trader.
Well, as long as I'm on a roll, I will add a general note about those occasional sweeps of street girls by the cops. LOL.
My previous post about this that you quoted from was regarding P4 P girls working in bars. I think that would also apply to escort agencies, massage shops, soapies, so-called Happy Ending shops and the like. It seems that is why Smooci is trying put a distance between itself and escort agencies of late.
And I should also stipulate that This Is Thailand, I could have it wrong on some meaningful detail or the law has been changed as of last month or some edict has been issued that supercedes traditional penal code and enforcement procedures. My notes are based on what I have read in the Thai Penal Code on the issue and the way it has virtually always turned out in terms of arrests and charges regarding "prostitution crimes" here.
So, about those occasions where the cops round up dozens of street girls in a single night in a surprise sweep on, say, Beach Road in Pattaya or Soi 4 or Sukhumvit Road in Bangkok. Don't the cops say they did it to "Crack down on prostitution" or some such thing and doesn't the media report it as such too?
Yes. Because they are being lazy and / or intentionally imprecise about it.
What they are really arresting the girls for is being prostitutes who are creating a public nuisance of their line of work...Real sweeps are rare.
More common is when the cops walk down Beach road in a group. The ladies disappear across the street, and then filter back when the cops are gone.
Explorer8939
10-24-23, 14:24
Don't Fret.
9 girls at Showgirls. One stands out.
She got Barfined on Premises. Nit by a Korean. Nit by Sin, hkg, etc.
Best I could tell Ugly Mexican or Portuguese.Wow! Big news! Gogo girl gets barfined!
My question remains: apart from one poster, who is barfining gogo girls?
I believe that Walking Street is heading the way of Angeles City, only Korean customers. And they only come to Pattaya once.
Raj Patela
10-24-23, 14:41
Miracles do Happen.
I met world Famous Priew of Desire.
Checks out Hotness. Sweet too.
Little bigger upper Torso she could be more Hot.
Said doesn't do Barfines. Makes sense as she does well on Livestream.
Wow!
Are you from Korea?New York City.
Raj Patela
10-24-23, 16:13
Wow! Big news! Gogo girl gets barfined!
My question remains: apart from one poster, who is barfining gogo girls?
I believe that Walking Street is heading the way of Angeles City, only Korean customers. And they only come to Pattaya once.Context.
Soi 6. Not an Agogo.
Point is you do t have to look like KPop Star to boom boom with attractive Soi 6 girl.
Real sweeps are rare.
More common is when the cops walk down Beach road in a group. The ladies disappear across the street, and then filter back when the cops are gone.A few years ago in Bangkok there were some sweeps. They were all based on visa issues pertaining to so many Africans and Vietnamese girls hanging out on Soi 4 back then. Took a couple of years before they felt safe to return in notable numbers.
None of those sweeps were because the girls were engaged in prostitution.
And, of course, no customer was swept up in a sweep because he was offering girls, consenting adults, money for sex either.
And as far as I know no girl and certainly no punter that I know of made a habit of paying off the cops with tea money to keep from getting busted on a charge of prostitution.
Which, IMHO, are all factors about as convincing as it gets that there is no reasonable interpretation of the Thai Penal Code that supports the idea that the simple act of prostitution is illegal absent any fairly logical extenuating circumstances or obviously troubling co-factors regarding age, undue coercion, creating a public nuisance and so on.
Context.
Soi 6. Not an Agogo.
Point is you do t have to look like KPop Star to boom boom with attractive Soi 6 girl.Nah the girls definitely do not care that much. I could definitely pass as a be Tier Kpop group member and they quote me the exact same price as everyone else. As long as your cash is good and you are clean then for the most part the girls will treat you the same. On the other hand I really do not find Soi 6 girls that attractive. I usually have to walk down and then back in order to settle on someone that I think is ok. Maybe most of the good girls are done / busy by the time I get there. Who knows.
MartinFlevo
10-24-23, 21:42
Wow! Big news! Gogo girl gets barfined!
My question remains: apart from one poster, who is barfining gogo girls?
I believe that Walking Street is heading the way of Angeles City, only Korean customers. And they only come to Pattaya once.99% of the people in Pattaya are NOT on this forum.
30+ bars with 100 girls average is 3. 000 agogo ladies easily. 2 barfines minimum in 10 days = 6. 000 barfines per 10 days or 600 per DAY.
Thats on average. So mondays would probably be 200 and saturdays more than 1. 000?
Who barfine? Guys who are NOT just looking for cheap sex. Guys who are not aware of this (or other fora / websites / groups). Asians. Farang.
Explorer8939
10-24-23, 22:53
99% of the people in Pattaya are NOT on this forum.
30+ bars with 100 girls average is 3. 000 agogo ladies easily. 2 barfines minimum in 10 days = 6. 000 barfines per 10 days or 600 per DAY.
Thats on average. So mondays would probably be 200 and saturdays more than 1. 000?
Who barfine? Guys who are NOT just looking for cheap sex. Guys who are not aware of this (or other fora / websites / groups). Asians. Farang.It looks like 50% of the posts here are about Walking Street, but virtually no one here barfines from gogos on WS.
So, where do you pull your ladies?
99% of the people in Pattaya are NOT on this forum.
30+ bars with 100 girls average is 3. 000 agogo ladies easily. 2 barfines minimum in 10 days = 6. 000 barfines per 10 days or 600 per DAY.
Thats on average. So mondays would probably be 200 and saturdays more than 1. 000?
Who barfine? Guys who are NOT just looking for cheap sex. Guys who are not aware of this (or other fora / websites / groups). Asians. Farang.I just spent 2 weeks down in Pattaya, I live in BKK and HK.
I had 22 girls from TF lined up. 11 were optiflick or piss poor upon meeting so I went to Sapphire to meet a lady from TF and I bar fined her. Why because she was lovely and I thought WTF.
I bar fined 2 ladies from Soi 6 bars. And I picked up a FL or 3 around the traps. Even avoided chicks with dicks.
The FL cost from 1200ST - 4000 LT. The gogo lady from Sapphire was 6 k LT plus a huge BF and drinks bill. Who cares. A girl from XS Agogo went with me once via BF and then 4 times from direct contact mainly during the day. 21 yr old spinner. Lovely PSE.
Most bars seemed quiet to me so that may a cheaper route but many of the ladies were drunk after 9 pm so I didn't want the hassle.
Will update as to which were TF, bar girls, FL and / or Agogo, GC.
Noi? No, she's not at 79 Club. That bar has the longest narrow set up I've seen ever. You can sit in any section and only see the girls in front of you. Imagine Palace set up, but 3 X the length longer. And the girls don't rotate stage to stage or on stage, they just flip their backs to you or their front. Shame on the designer. The good thing about 79 Club is their lighting. Not dark at all. I go pee just so I can walk to see all the girls on stage.
Speaking of ridiculous. There is some major decent new talent on Soi 6, but these "my style" girls were quoting 2500-3000 upstairs plus room charge and 1-2 drinks. That is RIDICULOUS. I adapted and paid 1500 for few of the better ones last time and even a couple of hotter ones at 2000. This was in a span of 5 months awhile back. But the hell if I am gong to pay 3000 for a Soi 6 girl. I thought my charm was going to get me the regular 1000 plus room and 1 drink price. WRONG. I wasted 3 drinks on 3 hot ones to get quoted of 2000 and 2500, plus room. I am not going to name bars or girls, so they can get their hustle on. But I need to heed my own advice. If you see a super HOT girl on Soi 6, "Ask them first how much before even buying 1 drink. ".
Girls know their worth. Luckily after 3 strikes, I found a girl who gave me a 1000 price. Her body was better than 2 of the 3 strike outs, face was decent enough. So once again, hot girl (my style) at Soi 6 just standing without drinks. There is a reason why. Ask ask ask. And if she gives a high price. Shake your head "no" and make an X with both arms to show "hell no". That will get them some silly unwanted attention from guys walking by. LOL.True to an extent. I concentrate on 3 or 4 girls at 2 bars and buy drinks for 2 at a time and then ask about outside BF long term. Many say ST only but after a time if the bars are as quiet as they have been you will be successful. If not there are tonnes of other options. The girl I am in lust with. Some call it LOVE is at Sexy in the City and I spent a quite a bit of time at that bar and I NEVER saw her with a hook up for sex. But she got lots of drinks and cash slipped her way.
YMMV.
Raj Patela
10-25-23, 00:25
Explorer asks who Barfs at Agogos. Can't answer as I see very few Barfining going on.
Soi 6 who Barfines. I do see a lot of the infamous Koreans Barfining. What they pay I have no idea.
Guy needs yo learn how to leg sweep
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0gSZakNVSmQ
In the real world, individuals that still have semblance of their bounded rationality in tact, find an another method to purchase items when faced with unfavorable market conditions. But this is not the real world, this is Pattaya. Where individuals arrive with condoms in one pocket, THB in the other and a blood stream full of 200 grams of their favorite ED meds. My solution to all of the problems I read about currently going on in the bars is to simply avoid bar fines.
Speaking of that, two nights ago contacted a girl from Thai Friendly. She accepted my offer of 1000ST along with my performance conditions. Arrived within 30 minutes. She accepted my offer of a drink and picked what she wanted from the full bar I maintain. I mixed it up. I am an excellent bartender and she is a smart girl. She watched me make her drink. After the drink she hit the bathroom and came out naked. The performance was off the chain. Gave her a 100 THB tip. No fuss. No mess (except for the one I made and she cleaned up) and no bar fines.
So, this morning to see if it was just a one off I invited her over again. Same 30 minute arrival time. Same off the chain performance, but different. 1100 THB. Once again no bar fines. She has made the team in a back up roll. More tryouts tonight.
I have run into attractive girls off of Thai Friendly that tell me I will accept my 1000 offer but I need to give them another 300,500 to pay their bar. I always politely decline and tell them to get with me in their off hours. I don't see why I should pay extra for something that does nothing for me. There is an individual that questions giving money to girls for nothing. Paying a bar fine is giving the owners of a bar money for nothing. You don't even get a drink with it. Now, I pay a subscription fee for Thai Friendly. But there is an entire website infrastructure that they have built. In my opinion the bar system is exploitive of the girls and I will not participate. No further than buying a drink for an attractive girl that chooses to sit with me. There may be biases. I solve them by leaving the premises. The most power vote the world over is the vote with your money and your feet. No tears being shed for any bar owner. Many of whom (in my opinion) are problem using the establishment to launder money.
Honestly I don't get the entire bar scene. I don't particularly like it. Even though I really like to drink. And for the fools giving advice about drinking and liver damage they making stupid comments. Your liver is designed to process 1 oz of alcohol an hour. It is what a liver does, process impurities out of your blood. If you are really concerned about your liver you should watch the fatty intake of foods. As a liver builds up fat within it, is loses it's ability to process blood. That is the real killer. And you liver does not lose the fat deposits once it has them. Do your homework before spouting off bullshit that is not true. You don't believe me, look up how foie gras is made.
Is Raj Raj a real person? Anyone actually met him?I like TF. More interesting to see who one really is behind the pictures (doctored in many cases) or perhaps a LB or 2. Very easy to get 20-25 yr olds (I'm over 50 now). Kind of reminds me of doing this thing in Budapest where many ladies would just hang up if they heard English.
But I also like and underatand the bars and their business model / s. Its easy to chill at a bar with a nice girl. Met one in Soi 6 at Sexy, byu the name of Oil. Just love her but didn't want to BF her and go through the act of defiling her LOL. Then again I love FL on Beach Rd as its a numbers game and a risk and yada yada yada.
I like Agogos and all the BS that goes with them and this policy and that policy. Still at the end of the day I find Pattaya cheaper than BKK (Thermae gilrs quoting 3000ST as if they're Christie Brinkley in her prime) and then the sex with them 50% of the time is shit. Then again TF students in BKK are great. I have one of my semi-pro tour at 4000 a day but she fucks and sucks like A PSE. Then she pisses off until we meet again. And BKK is << cheaper than Phuket IMHO.
All otpions are on the table for me but I hear you about Soi 6 attitudes. I did go to a GC called Stunners and while I didn't BF or blow my wad I did have a nice time in a cosy environment with some nice broads. Drinks were ok as I was only on Heineken.
Didn't get it. Can explain.
Had to pay 1 K barfine in Bangkok to get the agogo girl back to room. It was midnight.
Wow! Big news! Gogo girl gets barfined!
My question remains: apart from one poster, who is barfining gogo girls?
I believe that Walking Street is heading the way of Angeles City, only Korean customers. And they only come to Pattaya once.
I like TF. More interesting to see who one really is behind the pictures (doctored in many cases) or perhaps a LB or 2. Very easy to get 20-25 yr olds (I'm over 50 now). Kind of reminds me of doing this thing in Budapest where many ladies would just hang up if they heard English.
But I also like and underatand the bars and their business model / s. Its easy to chill at a bar with a nice girl. Met one in Soi 6 at Sexy, byu the name of Oil. Just love her but didn't want to BF her and go through the act of defiling her LOL. Then again I love FL on Beach Rd as its a numbers game and a risk and yada yada yada.
I like Agogos and all the BS that goes with them and this policy and that policy. Still at the end of the day I find Pattaya cheaper than BKK (Thermae gilrs quoting 3000ST as if they're Christie Brinkley in her prime) and then the sex with them 50% of the time is shit. Then again TF students in BKK are great. I have one of my semi-pro tour at 4000 a day but she fucks and sucks like A PSE. Then she pisses off until we meet again. And BKK is << cheaper than Phuket IMHO.
All otpions are on the table for me but I hear you about Soi 6 attitudes. I did go to a GC called Stunners and while I didn't BF or blow my wad I did have a nice time in a cosy environment with some nice broads. Drinks were ok as I was only on Heineken.Typos, sorry, been drinking all night here in Honkers. Where pxssy is REAL $$.
Why did you not confirm TF girls with video calls, one can bring down the failure rate with this.
I just spent 2 weeks down in Pattaya, I live in BKK and HK.
I had 22 girls from TF lined up. 11 were optiflick or piss poor upon meeting so I went to Sapphire to meet a lady from TF and I bar fined her. Why because she was lovely and I thought WTF.
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Explorer8939
10-25-23, 10:26
Wheels down at Suvarnabhumi. Posted on Facebook.
Loads of ladies respond on Messenger asking for a "date".
I guess the rain is curbing the number of customers in the bars.
BTW, Immigration was jammed with people coming to Thailand.
MartinFlevo
10-25-23, 13:31
It looks like 50% of the posts here are about Walking Street, but virtually no one here barfines from gogos on WS.
So, where do you pull your ladies?TF - But some work agogo / GC / bar and they meet when NOT working.
Agogo - Barfined several but never paid more then 2-3 K LT for the lady and 1 K barfine. People seem to forget that even barfine rates are not as fixed as it might seem.
The "trick" is most girls might ASK a lot. And its about show. So NEVER brag about a lower rate.
AlgoCreeper4
10-25-23, 15:34
Coming in March from Arizona, never traveled outside US-from what I can see on video Pattaya has 10 x more ladies than Phuket. If you only had 6 days where would you go?
ElMexicant
10-25-23, 15:40
99% of the people in Pattaya are NOT on this forum.
30+ bars with 100 girls average is 3. 000 agogo ladies easily. 2 barfines minimum in 10 days = 6. 000 barfines per 10 days or 600 per DAY.
Thats on average. So mondays would probably be 200 and saturdays more than 1. 000?
Who barfine? Guys who are NOT just looking for cheap sex. Guys who are not aware of this (or other fora / websites / groups). Asians. Farang.Very few, if anybody frequent GoGo bars as much as I do. I probably have barfined the most girls on WS's history. I can tell you, there are only 100+ girls in a few clubs, plus clubs with same bosses just rotate their same girls. Also the contracts and drink commission info, people post about is not always correct. In the past so many girls have given me their own money to pay their barfines for them because they get it all back. It's rolled into their contract. I don't want to go into the details of how and why because its their hustle. And seriously, one 1 oz shot of tequila is 65 calories. A girl downing 50 shots is 3000 calories a night? Including what she eats, a pound of weight is 3500 calories. And they sleep all day to work the next night. You peeps are starting to catch on yet?
Interesting, I did chat up a Korean streamer who had his own porn channel with a bunch of vids of diff girls in Pattaya. Some of the girls I recognized and have banged before as well. The guy would pay them a decent amount to made the vids, and then sorta blackmail them to get cheap rates afterwards. Now I know why those YouTubers are so successful. They put them on media blast if the girls give them a hard time or outrageous pricing. What ever works. Some of these girls are just dumb as fuck or desperate. The camera lures them into a trap and they all for the glitz. Much like porn, once your broken in, your are broken.
ElMexicant
10-25-23, 15:43
Will update as to which were TF, bar girls, FL and / or Agogo, GC.Mai (pink dress) is a staple in Pattaya. Met up with another ISG guy who kicked her out because of her shitty service and hairy asshole. Thank God, she was only 1000 during COVID for me (one time, no repeat). What's her rate now off TF? 2000-2500?
Wheels down at Suvarnabhumi. Posted on Facebook.
Loads of ladies respond on Messenger asking for a "date".
I guess the rain is curbing the number of customers in the bars.
BTW, Immigration was jammed with people coming to Thailand.I don't think the rain curbs customers, it's just relatively did in Pattaya.
I went through immigration at BKK a week ago, only two or three others present with no lines.
Coming in March from Arizona, never traveled outside US-from what I can see on video Pattaya has 10 x more ladies than Phuket. If you only had 6 days where would you go?Ahh the typical American, never left the friendly confines of Murica. Most my co-workers in the US have never had a passport LOL. Kudos on you for getting out of the American exceptionalism mentality and making an effort to see the world and ladies of a different nature than ones you find in America.
Pattaya has a lot more girls than Phuket at a fraction of the price. If you need some nice beach time, that of course is far superior in Phuket than Pattaya, but just take the ferry from Pattaya's Bali Hai Pier to Koh Larn for a day and take a lady with you. Koh Larn has clear blue waters.
In conclusion, Pattaya is cheaper and has more girls.
Banana Boi
10-25-23, 21:44
Coming in March from Arizona, never traveled outside US-from what I can see on video Pattaya has 10 x more ladies than Phuket. If you only had 6 days where would you go?Bangkok 3 days Pattaya 3 days. I'm guessing you're not familiar with the geography but Phuket is quite a ways away. Not worth the extra flights over a 6 day trip.
Explorer8939
10-26-23, 02:41
Coming in March from Arizona, never traveled outside US-from what I can see on video Pattaya has 10 x more ladies than Phuket. If you only had 6 days where would you go?Phuket is more expensive than Pattaya, and has less women.
Raj Patela
10-26-23, 02:41
I don't think like a Hustler.
If a girl gives me 2,000 to pay her Barfine. I get that.
We go out of Bar Lovey Dovey Kissy Kissy. Once we out of Bar I say have a good night.
Where and what is the Hustle?
Who is Zooming who?
Hi Fellow Mongers. I am visiting Thailand for the first time from 31-Oct to 03-Nov. Is there anyone else who is travelling in these dates and want to monger together?
Coming in March from Arizona, never traveled outside US-from what I can see on video Pattaya has 10 x more ladies than Phuket. If you only had 6 days where would you go?Pattaya is more compact, more pussy, less hassle (relatively), MUCH CHEAPER but many downsides. Dirty, beach is shite, whereas Phuket has awesome beaches, better vibe and IMHO more high end talent. 6 days do Bangkok and stay at a nice hotel in Sukhumvit with a pool, Hyatt or Marriott.
YMMV.
Mai (pink dress) is a staple in Pattaya. Met up with another ISG guy who kicked her out because of her shitty service and hairy asshole. Thank God, she was only 1000 during COVID for me (one time, no repeat). What's her rate now off TF? 2000-2500?I'm confused as pink dress is Kat. Dohhhh I get confused, so many bits of trim, so little time.
Raj Patela
10-26-23, 04:35
I'm Lost.
Landlords are raising prices big for coming High season to make up for the 5 last non- high seasons. Hahaha.
I'm reading anecdotal s on ASEAN News regarding apt rentals. Landlords are not keeping current tenants instead are going for the Gold.
Makes me wonder if Bargirls are doing the same thing.
Phuket is more expensive than Pattaya, and has less women.Nicer overall though but I'm biased having 1st gone to both in 1986 where one was a brothel on a shoddy beach and still is, albeit larger, and the other was a lovely holiday resort, brothel on many beaches.
YMMV.
I prefer Pattaya now, then no way.
Visiting Thailand after 15 years. Not sure hows the scene would be compared to 15 Y back. But I am excited.
This time will be in pattaya, spending 3-4 days.
I can't take girl in my hotel (coming with a group for some work).
I will be mostly looking for soapy massage + FS. In bkk, I enjoyed la-belle kind of setup during previous visit. Will explore similar in pattaya this time. Any recommendations would be helpful.
Is there option of love hotel kind of setup. ? Few hours stay kind?
Thanks.
MartinFlevo
10-26-23, 07:55
Visiting Thailand after 15 years. Not sure hows the scene would be compared to 15 Y back. But I am excited.
This time will be in pattaya, spending 3-4 days.
I can't take girl in my hotel (coming with a group for some work).
I will be mostly looking for soapy massage + FS. In bkk, I enjoyed la-belle kind of setup during previous visit. Will explore similar in pattaya this time. Any recommendations would be helpful.
Is there option of love hotel kind of setup. ? Few hours stay kind?
Thanks.Soapys focus on indians these days so would avoid them. Just book Travelodge (soi15) for 1 K THB and you got your own "Extra" hotel? A lot easier than a ST hotel?
Explorer8939
10-26-23, 10:25
Visiting Thailand after 15 years. Not sure hows the scene would be compared to 15 Y back. But I am excited.
This time will be in pattaya, spending 3-4 days.
I can't take girl in my hotel (coming with a group for some work).
I will be mostly looking for soapy massage + FS. In bkk, I enjoyed la-belle kind of setup during previous visit. Will explore similar in pattaya this time. Any recommendations would be helpful.
Is there option of love hotel kind of setup. ? Few hours stay kind?
Thanks.Many bars have short time rooms, same as 15 years ago.
Beach Road girls use nearby Short Time hotels.
There is Full Love Inn on Soi Bonkot 8.
Explorer8939
10-26-23, 10:26
I don't think like a Hustler.
If a girl gives me 2,000 to pay her Barfine. I get that.
We go out of Bar Lovey Dovey Kissy Kissy. Once we out of Bar I say have a good night.
Where and what is the Hustle?
Who is Zooming who?I am surprised you don't charge them for your time.
Ahh the typical American, never left the friendly confines of Murica. Most my co-workers in the US have never had a passport LOL. Kudos on you for getting out of the American exceptionalism mentality and making an effort to see the world and ladies of a different nature than ones you find in America.
We were exceptional, but then we went off the gold standard, and became whiny little bitches.
Raj Patela
10-26-23, 12:04
Please elaborate why one Recommend s staying away from Indian frequented Pattaya Soapies. Hahaha. Hahaha. Hahaha.
Explorer8939
10-26-23, 12:07
Half of my "dates" are no-Shows, no messages saying they aren't coming, which usually means they got a customer. Another sign of High Season approaching.
No problem for me, I cross them off my list, and then I can go out. But not to a go-go.
Mr Enternational
10-26-23, 12:16
Soapys focus on indians these days so would avoid them.How do you know he is not Indian? And why would you avoid them because they focus on Indians? My experience is that they focus on whoever walks through the door. I would not say they focus on Indians, more that Indian guys are mostly the ones that go there.
Axel Heyst
10-26-23, 13:40
Visiting Thailand after 15 years. Not sure hows the scene would be compared to 15 Y back. But I am excited.
This time will be in pattaya, spending 3-4 days.
I can't take girl in my hotel (coming with a group for some work).
Wait a minute: who the fuck organized a company business trip to, OF ALL PLACES, Pattaya? Give that fool a raise. 555. Meanwhile, MartinFlevo's suggestion is a good one. Rent a decent 3. 5 to 4 star hotel near Walking Street or LK Metro so you can bring all your Go Go & Bar girl pick ups back to your room and none of your straight business associates will know or care.
ElMexicant
10-26-23, 13:59
I'm confused as pink dress is Kat. Dohhhh I get confused, so many bits of trim, so little time.Mai. Has her service got any better? When I got her a 1000, it was a quick 45 minutes session from start to finish, with a 2 min BJ. Complained a bunch about I was banging too hard. Made me slow down as if it was a making love session. Annoying as fuck. I ended pulling off the condom during K9, splooged on her back, and then wiping some of it in her hair. Pretended it was all an accident. Anyways, after COVID her price jumped to 2000. Wonder where it is now since she got her boobs made even bigger and more surgery to her face. Anybody knows?
ElMexicant
10-26-23, 14:16
So did my rounds on Soi 6. Approached 4 different girls on Soi 6, 4 different bars. All 4 quoted 2000 plus 400, drink not required. I did not accept or even counter offer. Just said nope and walked away. Stepped into a bar to cool off. I've taken 3 girls from this bar at a range 1000-1200 plus 400 and 1 drink, on previous trips. Two of them were working. Saw a new one. She approached me first and did the "you want lady" and pointed at the other girls. She was not my waitress. By now, if you don't what that cue means, then figure to out of your own. I told her I just want to boom boom and how much. She said for her 2000 and 400, just like the other 4 girls. I didn't even say anything about "Before I got her for yada yada yada. " I just took out 1200 from my wallet and pointed at the section where all the girls sit when they cat call the guys walking. None of the girls wanted to take the 1200 offer. That's crazy. Some average, fresh out of Eassan looking girl did tell another girl to tell me in English 1500 plus 400. I just paid my bill and walked away. But to see, she was 1000 quality. Throw in the room and it goes to 1900. Nope, no way. Don't feel to sorry for me. I have my private list and table of girls for 1500-2000. That was my fall back plan anyways. Maybe I am just to picky, But I see no value in paying 2400 baht for a Soi 6 girl. Remember guys, ask how much for boom boom first before even buying 1 drink for ANY Soi 6 girl. And you can forget the first few bars on the right hand side as you walk in. They play so much drinking games there. Maybe we need another lock down to put these Thai girls back in their place.
ElMexicant
10-26-23, 14:30
I don't think like a Hustler.
If a girl gives me 2,000 to pay her Barfine. I get that.
We go out of Bar Lovey Dovey Kissy Kissy. Once we out of Bar I say have a good night.
Where and what is the Hustle?
Who is Zooming who?The hustle is not me or you. The hustle is on her own bar. You have to understand how barfines and contracts work. But back to my rant on Soi 6. A girl offering 2000 better be decent looking with anal provided. I am sure everybody knows who this girl is on Soi 6 just by the uniform. 2000 is a bargain for her because it is PSE with anal and ATM swallow. If you don't know. Oh fucking well. Maybe the Chimpoo will do recon for you. Secrets die with me all the time.
HorseTrader
10-26-23, 14:49
Phuket is more expensive than Pattaya, and has less women.True, but Patong, Phuket, has enough women. Other parts of Phuket are beautiful, but some don't have enough P4P women. A massive portion of Pattaya is red light district.
So did my rounds on Soi 6. Approached 4 different girls on Soi 6, 4 different bars. All 4 quoted 2000 plus 400, drink not required. I did not accept or even counter offer. Just said nope and walked away. Stepped into a bar to cool off. I've taken 3 girls from this bar at a range 1000-1200 plus 400 and 1 drink, on previous trips. Two of them were working. Saw a new one. She approached me first and did the "you want lady" and pointed at the other girls. She was not my waitress. By now, if you don't what that cue means, then figure to out of your own. I told her I just want to boom boom and how much. She said for her 2000 and 400, just like the other 4 girls. I didn't even say anything about "Before I got her for yada yada yada. " I just took out 1200 from my wallet and pointed at the section where all the girls sit when they cat call the guys walking. None of the girls wanted to take the 1200 offer. That's crazy. Some average, fresh out of Eassan looking girl did tell another girl to tell me in English 1500 plus 400. I just paid my bill and walked away. But to see, she was 1000 quality. Throw in the room and it goes to 1900. Nope, no way. Don't feel to sorry for me. I have my private list and table of girls for 1500-2000. That was my fall back plan anyways. Maybe I am just to picky, But I see no value in paying 2400 baht for a Soi 6 girl. Remember guys, ask how much for boom boom first before even buying 1 drink for ANY Soi 6 girl. And you can forget the first few bars on the right hand side as you walk in. They play so much drinking games there. Maybe we need another lock down to put these Thai girls back in their place.Maybe high season pricing is kicking in?
I was in Pattaya in early October and was quoted 1 k by many Soi 6 ladies. Funny enough, I didn't take any, I just like making the walk down the soi.
MartinFlevo
10-26-23, 16:45
How do you know he is not Indian? And why would you avoid them because they focus on Indians? My experience is that they focus on whoever walks through the door. I would not say they focus on Indians, more that Indian guys are mostly the ones that go there.Indians are known for there 1 second finish. So most Soapy ladies don't want Farang. Too much work. Dick to big. Indian easy money.
Thats what I have been told by a number of ladies.
Banana Boi
10-26-23, 16:49
Soapys focus on indians these days so would avoid them.The girls and soapies don't prefer Indians at all. They have no preference. All the Indians go to the soapies because unlike say a beer or gogo bar Indians can't be rejected in Soapies. Girls must pay the soapies a big fine if they reject a customer.
Explorer8939
10-26-23, 16:59
The girls and soapies don't prefer Indians at all. They have no preference. All the Indians go to the soapies because unlike say a beer or gogo bar Indians can't be rejected in Soapies. Girls must pay the soapies a big fine if they reject a customer.Soapies are expensive. If they are going in groups, they must be getting a discount.
Mai. Has her service got any better? When I got her a 1000, it was a quick 45 minutes session from start to finish, with a 2 min BJ. Complained a bunch about I was banging too hard. Made me slow down as if it was a making love session. Annoying as fuck. I ended pulling off the condom during K9, splooged on her back, and then wiping some of it in her hair. Pretended it was all an accident. Anyways, after COVID her price jumped to 2000. Wonder where it is now since she got her boobs made even bigger and more surgery to her face. Anybody knows?Her price is now 2000.
MartinFlevo
10-26-23, 21:11
Soapies are expensive. If they are going in groups, they must be getting a discount.Actually they do get a discount. Just part of a program. Thats why they are being brought to the Soapies with a BUS. I'm not talking single travelers.
MartinFlevo
10-26-23, 21:12
The girls and soapies don't prefer Indians at all. They have no preference. All the Indians go to the soapies because unlike say a beer or gogo bar Indians can't be rejected in Soapies. Girls must pay the soapies a big fine if they reject a customer.They prefer = easy money = finish fast (soapy chick told me).
And tey go there because its most of the time part of a business trip. Think call center "best 20 performance get a trip to Pattaya. Incl Soapy".
Mr Enternational
10-26-23, 22:25
Actually they do get a discount. Just part of a program. Thats why they are being brought to the Soapies with a BUS. I'm not talking single travelers.The manager told me that they actually pay more. When I tried to get a commission for bringing my friends he told me I am supposed to tell them it costs more than it does then collect the balance.
We were exceptional, but then we went off the gold standard, and became whiny little bitches."You can't make a buck in this market, the country's goin' to hell faster than when Roosevelt was in charge. Too much cheap money sloshing around the world. The worst mistake we ever made was letting Nixon get off the gold standard."
"You can't make a buck in this market, the country's goin' to hell faster than when Roosevelt was in charge. Too much cheap money sloshing around the world. The worst mistake we ever made was letting Nixon get off the gold standard."LOL.
I used to be able to recite a LOT of that movie by heart. Met Michael Douglas in front of his CPW Co-Op about 15 years ago. He stopped and talked to me about films and TV. Told him I even liked The Streets of San Francisco. Lovely bloke, unlike another certain star from said film.
YMMV.
Will update as to which were TF, bar girls, FL and / or Agogo, GC.Pics 1 and 3 are a lady, Nice from Sapphire, she is very nice, $$ to BF and O / and.
Pic 2 is a lady now in Phuket, Kat, thin spinner with an attitude and a scammer but a great fxck if that all makes sense, no longer on my list.
Pic 4 is a hot ST girl from TF, 2000ST and worth more. Calls herself Jen.
Pic 5 is either that Mai young mate here talks about are a ST girl I got from TF who calls herself, Nana.
Pic 6 is a VERY HOT MILF massage lady from Soi 13/2, name is Pimmor? But she is at Nichawarin Massage on 13/2.
Pic 7 is a dancer / model / coyote (named Baitoey from XS Agogo. Has lots of guys in / around her. Super hot, nice attitude, $$ has a young child and also parties with friends at Republic, this pic (attached) is her at the Hilton. Best sexual experience I've had in TH.
Pic 8 is lovely young hottie from TF, goes by the name of Donut online, just a hot young thang that bangs like a dunny door in a storm.
Pics numbered from left to right, top to bottom.
Banana Boi
10-27-23, 02:55
Soapies are expensive. If they are going in groups, they must be getting a discount.A group of 10 Indians go to a Soapy. 1 goes for a massage that day cause it's his turn. The other 9 sit in prime seats in the soapy ogling at girls for 90 minutes free of charge.
I used to do that. Went with a guy who wanted a session and I just sat there 90 minutes so I could see the entire lineup, sometimes posting live updates. If I saw someone I really liked I went for a session too.
KrumeLurer
10-27-23, 07:18
I hear of others being able to pay 1000-1200, but wow! What a place it has turned in to. Specially when we see the same girls offer short time to thaimen on the internet for 800-1000 baht.
Seems like the place has really gone down the drain.
So did my rounds on Soi 6. Approached 4 different girls on Soi 6, 4 different bars. All 4 quoted 2000 plus 400, drink not required. I did not accept or even counter offer. Just said nope and walked away. Stepped into a bar to cool off. I've taken 3 girls from this bar at a range 1000-1200 plus 400 and 1 drink, on previous trips. Two of them were working. Saw a new one. She approached me first and did the "you want lady" and pointed at the other girls. She was not my waitress. By now, if you don't what that cue means, then figure to out of your own. I told her I just want to boom boom and how much. She said for her 2000 and 400, just like the other 4 girls. I didn't even say anything about "Before I got her for yada yada yada. " I just took out 1200 from my wallet and pointed at the section where all the girls sit when they cat call the guys walking. None of the girls wanted to take the 1200 offer. That's crazy. Some average, fresh out of Eassan looking girl did tell another girl to tell me in English 1500 plus 400. I just paid my bill and walked away. But to see, she was 1000 quality. Throw in the room and it goes to 1900. Nope, no way. Don't feel to sorry for me. I have my private list and table of girls for 1500-2000. That was my fall back plan anyways. Maybe I am just to picky, But I see no value in paying 2400 baht for a Soi 6 girl. Remember guys, ask how much for boom boom first before even buying 1 drink for ANY Soi 6 girl. And you can forget the first few bars on the right hand side as you walk in. They play so much drinking games there. Maybe we need another lock down to put these Thai girls back in their place.
Maybe we need another lock down to put these Thai girls back in their place.Lately I finally found one girl in Tree Town that I would want to bring back in my room, a 19 years old girl freshly arrived from Essan.
Her asking price? 3 K ST and 5 K LT (+ 500 barfine).
When even a fresh from the farm girl working in Tree Town is asking these prices, I Wonder if gogo girls didn't also upgrade their prices without we noticing it.
A fellow member said he already pays 7 K for LT, it's not far fetched to think that the next step is ST at 5 K up and LT at 7 K up for all gogo girls (and not 3 K or 5 K anymore).
ElMexicant
10-27-23, 10:51
Pic 7 is a dancer / model / coyote (named Baitoey from XS Agogo. Has lots of guys in / around her. Super hot, nice attitude, $$ has a young child and also parties with friends at Republic, this pic (attached) is her at the Hilton. Best sexual experience I've had in TH.
Did you make fun of the tattoo on her stomach? LOL. She gets pissy when I point it out lover and over again. She sells herself 2000ST off-peak hours away from XS BTW. I think most guys know how to get at that. I had her back during COVID for 1000 (2 sessions). Bought her ONE drink later when she first started dancing EVER, working at Pin Up, to thank her for those discounted sessions. She was giddy I pulled her off stage. But then she didn't realize how many girls I already knew in each bar on WS. Ditched her ass after that. Anyways, girls really hate when I point out poorly done or ugly tattoos, or bad nose jobs, bad tit jobs, and those botox Joker lips (see pic below). Honestly, they think I am probably the most rudest customer ever. I've sat with their owners, mamasans, and managers of various clubs and pointed out which girl got fat over the years and pointed to them. Guess there are few guys that can come into a GoGo bar and the girls are intimidated by him. Lucky me to be one of them. I really think the best days of the Gogos (2019) are long gone. Those had the best looking girls and I see only 15-20% of them now that are still same. The rest are long gone, moved on or gained weight with new surgery that makes them unrecognizable.
ElMexicant
10-27-23, 10:57
A group of 10 Indians go to a Soapy. 1 goes for a massage that day cause it's his turn. The other 9 sit in prime seats in the soapy ogling at girls for 90 minutes free of charge.
I used to do that. Went with a guy who wanted a session and I just sat there 90 minutes so I could see the entire lineup, sometimes posting live updates. If I saw someone I really liked I went for a session too.Once I was walking along Coconut bar and saw a group of 5 or 6 Indians, standing in a circle being loud and laughing. When I got near them, I saw they had surrounded one of their own, who had one of those 20 baht bags of cut pineapple, that you can buy from a cart. They each had those long sticks and took turns poking the pineapple pieces in the lone bag to eat. Not sure why they had to high five one another during the process.
ElMexicant
10-27-23, 11:05
Maybe high season pricing is kicking in?
I was in Pattaya in early October and was quoted 1 k by many Soi 6 ladies. Funny enough, I didn't take any, I just like making the walk down the soi.There are definitely 1000 + 400 for the room, girls still available. But you have to understand, in 12 years going to Pattaya, I've taken less than 25 girls from Soi 6 ever. No-one from a GC ever. I am looking for those 1% girls always. I am picky sometimes. If I haven't found one and on my last hour before the Kamagra wears off, I get less picky, but still not paying 1500-2000 plus 400 for average girls. That makes me desperate. Guys who only come here 2 weeks out of the year haven't much a choice. Long stays, we do.
Raj Patela
10-27-23, 14:39
Mint Julips review.
Hello Girls AAAplus.
Full of BBB. Big bad boobs. I've never seen a collection like that ever, one Wave after another.
I don't think like a Hustler.
If a girl gives me 2,000 to pay her Barfine. I get that.
We go out of Bar Lovey Dovey Kissy Kissy. Once we out of Bar I say have a good night.
Where and what is the Hustle?
Who is Zooming who?I believe the hustle ElMex is referring to is a hustle between the girl and the gogo in regards to the work contract. The girl is not hustling the customer.
Did you make fun of the tattoo on her stomach? LOL. She gets pissy when I point it out lover and over again. She sells herself 2000ST off-peak hours away from XS BTW. I think most guys know how to get at that. I had her back during COVID for 1000 (2 sessions). Bought her ONE drink later when she first started dancing EVER, working at Pin Up, to thank her for those discounted sessions. She was giddy I pulled her off stage. But then she didn't realize how many girls I already knew in each bar on WS. Ditched her ass after that. Anyways, girls really hate when I point out poorly done or ugly tattoos, or bad nose jobs, bad tit jobs, and those botox Joker lips (see pic below). Honestly, they think I am probably the most rudest customer ever. I've sat with their owners, mamasans, and managers of various clubs and pointed out which girl got fat over the years and pointed to them. Guess there are few guys that can come into a GoGo bar and the girls are intimidated by him. Lucky me to be one of them. I really think the best days of the Gogos (2019) are long gone. Those had the best looking girls and I see only 15-20% of them now that are still same. The rest are long gone, moved on or gained weight with new surgery that makes them unrecognizable.Loser / Lover tatoo. LOL. She has a few Sugar Daddies, dude calls himself mattyforever or something is there ATM. She sent me pics and her IG account details. I paid her more than 2000 Bht away from XS for sessions over 2 days recently. Poor thing is messed in the noggin though.
There are definitely 1000 + 400 for the room, girls still available. But you have to understand, in 12 years going to Pattaya, I've taken less than 25 girls from Soi 6 ever. No-one from a GC ever. I am looking for those 1% girls always. I am picky sometimes. If I haven't found one and on my last hour before the Kamagra wears off, I get less picky, but still not paying 1500-2000 plus 400 for average girls. That makes me desperate. Guys who only come here 2 weeks out of the year haven't much a choice. Long stays, we do.I have seen this increasing price trend in developing world, even 3rd world WG markets for sometime. Morocco was around 400-500 Dh or US $40 max now they all want double or quadruple that, Hungary used to be $30-$50ST now its US $100 or Euros by a lot of WG or even 200 Euros for model types, Ukraine same, Colombia same, even parts of Mexico FFS. So in Thailand the 1 k ST in Thermae (Bangkok) etc is now 3 k. They can all sod off mate but I did pay for Baitoey and a few others in Pattaya because I was bored, disillusioned with many of the TF no shows or attitudes and frankly stunned that in almost empty bar after bar on Soi 6, that owners want such big BF and WG wanted 2 k minimums,. Like they're all part of a flipping union. ,. So AFAIC the bars may end up learning the hard way by going busto. WG who knows or cares.
I did do well in the 13/1 and 13/2 massage parlors and have 3 MILFS 30-40 who I'll just take out after work and spend some loot on them as they do WORK HARD for it, girls like Pimmie, Nan and co at Nichawarin etc (if you know).
I am now going to go the street girl and Ocean Rd route when I return to Pattaya next month, which will be more excilerating and dangerous, LB spotter better be working or I'll get embarrased back at the hotel. I'll spend $ at sports bars and doing other things.
I do like a club called Stunners which is a GC I think you call it. Good vibe and not pushy and intimate. I'll spend bigger $ there if I feel good.
YMMV and as always newbies RTFF.
Will update as to which were TF, bar girls, FL and / or Agogo, GC.Bravo, Mr. Belvaros! Yes, do tell!
Raj Patela
10-28-23, 03:38
I believe the hustle ElMex is referring to is a hustle between the girl and the gogo in regards to the work contract. The girl is not hustling the customer.I kind of figured that. I was hoping he would let it all hang out.
Thai Scamming Thais is not Uncommon.
Explorer8939
10-28-23, 04:59
I had a lady in my condo who has a sponsor who gives her 300,000 baht a month. She drank a bottle of vodka, got naked, but I declined any action. She wanted to go to a bar, she paid for the taxi, and in the bar, rang the bell 4 times.
I am normally okay with fucking ladies with idiot sponsors, but this was too much money for her to lose, and karma is a *.
Raj Patela
10-28-23, 12:08
Sat. Pm.
If you go by activity on the Beach Pattaya is Busy. It's a Miracle.
These special events do draw a lot of Thais.
EverythingThai
10-28-23, 13:26
I am an expat living in Pattaya and I have read some of the posts here on prices. 1000-2000ST is the common prices being asked for. Not including the room if in the bar. Soi 6 is 1500, gents clubs are 1000-1500, and Thai Friendly freelancers are 1000-2500ST. I don't understand what all the morning is about. Yes there are the odd girls asking for more, but so what. Inflation. I never understand the guys that come to Pattaya and think the prices should never go up and what they paid 5 years ago should be the same they pay today. Sup complaining and just have fun.
Of course there is walking street and LK metro where the girls in the go go bars will ask more. So be it.
EverythingThai
10-28-23, 13:36
If I had to guess, most of the guys in this forum have been miners for years. Not easy to accept the price increases due to inflation. My advice to you guys is to do the gent club circuit. The gents clubs cater to the expats and are very affordable. Drinks are cheap, bar fines cheap, and ST prices are 1000-1500. Some notable choices are Maggie Mays on Soi Pothole, Club fate on Soi Boomerang, Cat Flaps in Patunmank, Heaven Above, Kinereee, Purple Gents Club and so on. Many located on Soi Boncot, spelling wrong. These places are very relaxed. No pressure to oder lady drinks and often action goes on right in the bars.
EverythingThai
10-28-23, 14:56
I had a lady in my condo who has a sponsor who gives her 300,000 baht a month. She drank a bottle of vodka, got naked, but I declined any action. She wanted to go to a bar, she paid for the taxi, and in the bar, rang the bell 4 times.
I am normally okay with fucking ladies with idiot sponsors, but this was too much money for her to lose, and karma is a *.This won't last long. She will not save penny of it and when the sponsors stops, she will be back to 1000 Sts LOL. I've seen it many times before. You should have gone for the freebee.
Raj Patela
10-28-23, 15:05
Final Chapter or not.
Soi 6 closed Sunday and heading to BKK.
Was drinking a beer on one of the bars near beach road. A nice small girl that looked decent caught my eye. Apparently I didn't catch hers. No contact whatsoever but a girl with a Larger Nose took a liking to me. Hahaha. Hahaha.
Raj Patela
10-28-23, 15:08
If I had to guess, most of the guys in this forum have been miners for years. Not easy to accept the price increases due to inflation. My advice to you guys is to do the gent club circuit. The gents clubs cater to the expats and are very affordable. Drinks are cheap, bar fines cheap, and ST prices are 1000-1500. Some notable choices are Maggie Mays on Soi Pothole, Club fate on Soi Boomerang, Cat Flaps in Patunmank, Heaven Above, Kinereee, Purple Gents Club and so on. Many located on Soi Boncot, spelling wrong. These places are very relaxed. No pressure to oder lady drinks and often action goes on right in the bars.This topic has been Covered. Cheap expats equals Firgettabboutit for the Majority of us.
Not hating. Different demographics for different Folks.
Banana Boi
10-28-23, 16:31
Sat. Pm.
If you go by activity on the Beach Pattaya is Busy. It's a Miracle.
These special events do draw a lot of Thais.Beach Road Bikini Run today. Always packed! One of the best events Pattaya offers.
I had a lady in my condo who has a sponsor who gives her 300,000 baht a month.
Why is she even working? $8,300 US net per month is likely more than what half the guys on this board make!
I am an expat living in Pattaya and I have read some of the posts here on prices. 1000-2000ST is the common prices being asked for. Not including the room if in the bar. Soi 6 is 1500, gents clubs are 1000-1500, and Thai Friendly freelancers are 1000-2500ST. I don't understand what all the morning is about. Yes there are the odd girls asking for more, but so what. Inflation. I never understand the guys that come to Pattaya and think the prices should never go up and what they paid 5 years ago should be the same they pay today. Sup complaining and just have fun.
Of course there is walking street and LK metro where the girls in the go go bars will ask more. So be it.I agree. Guys think that the price they paid 5 or even 10 years ago should still be the price they paid now. But like everything else, inflation causes prices to go up and an increase from the price you paid 5 or 10 years ago is not crazy. Some guys get obsessed with a price point that they paid years ago and think that it should be the going rate but no one rings a bell when the going rate goes up and the going rate is not the going rate forever. Prices go up and you have to adjust rather than whine about it all day and night.
Note that your salary also goes up over time and so you have more money too over the years (hopefully).
I am an expat living in Pattaya and I have read some of the posts here on prices. 1000-2000ST is the common prices being asked for. Not including the room if in the bar. Soi 6 is 1500, gents clubs are 1000-1500, and Thai Friendly freelancers are 1000-2500ST. I don't understand what all the morning is about. Yes there are the odd girls asking for more, but so what. Inflation. I never understand the guys that come to Pattaya and think the prices should never go up and what they paid 5 years ago should be the same they pay today. Sup complaining and just have fun.
Of course there is walking street and LK metro where the girls in the go go bars will ask more. So be it.The pricing you mention was my experience this past Sept / Oct in Pattaya, so I agree with you and don't understand the commenters complaining about pricing.
And as I have been saying, once the world economy collapses into a recession, most ladies will be begging for 1 k ST and it will be easy to get ST for around 700-800 baht. Mark my words. Inflation will lead to deflation in the pussy market.
.....Why is she even working? $8,300 US net per month is likely more than what half the guys on this board make!Even though she's getting money she still needs the honey.
I am an expat living in Pattaya and I have read some of the posts here on prices. 1000-2000ST is the common prices being asked for. Not including the room if in the bar. Soi 6 is 1500, gents clubs are 1000-1500, and Thai Friendly freelancers are 1000-2500ST. I don't understand what all the morning is about. Yes there are the odd girls asking for more, but so what. Inflation. I never understand the guys that come to Pattaya and think the prices should never go up and what they paid 5 years ago should be the same they pay today. Sup complaining and just have fun.It's normal you don't get what we are talking about when you were already paying 5 K LT in May 2021.
We're talking increase of 50 to 100% in price in less than a year. Last year in November 2022 I could have every girl I wanted for 1 K ST.
In May 2023, I could still get all I wanted for 1 K but a few girls were asking for more, some of them wouldn't budge from 2 K.
This month, I could get a few in the first week but it's been a while I didn't met any girl ready to go below 1,5 K.
Lately, I agree with Mr Mexican, I also met plenty asking 2 K and being firm.
I still find some occasional very good girl for 1,5 K but it's getting a lot harder than before.
You call this complaining, I'd rather say we're informing or comparing to see if other members are being quoted same prices or not.
I agree. Guys think that the price they paid 5 or even 10 years ago should still be the price they paid now.Just change the word years to month and you'll get what we're talking about.
50 to 100 % price increase in just a few months.
Explorer8939
10-28-23, 21:22
Why is she even working? $8,300 US net per month is likely more than what half the guys on this board make!She's not working, just enjoying life, spending 300,000 baht a month on drinking.
EverythingThai
10-29-23, 00:04
This gents club in a little bit out of the way but it well worth it. It's huge. Curtain areas for naughty times. Pool table. Free lasagna, free smoked brisket and finally a great mix of ladies. 1000ST from 300 for the room. A few of the girls will ask 1500. Lady drinks 150 baht but if you buy a wrack of shots the girl will get 6 instead of 5 for 799 baht. My most recent chosen companion was Pop.
ElMexicant
10-29-23, 03:04
Windmill lady drink prices are now 260 baht. Higher than the models at other clubs. Nobody confuses Windmill girls with Pin Up models. Before at Windmill, they were 180. So people telling me cost of living went up 30%? And if you are a girl on Soi 6, 2000 would make it 100% pre CoVid increase. Bronx Pizza is now 80 for 1 slice, 140 for 2. Before, they were 70 and 125. So 12% is more like inflation and reasonable. Don't confuse the sex entertainment business with basic economy and everyday life. Especially, when there is still 89 baht draft beer at Baccara and the upstairs never did reopen again. I would say, the lack of spending is the reason why prices have inflated. Girls and staff are responsible to make their own money. Hell, even the security guys all have number badges like the dancers and expected to get their tips and drink quotas met to meet the salary.
Raj Patela
10-29-23, 05:54
Windmill lady drink prices are now 260 baht. Higher than the models at other clubs. Nobody confuses Windmill girls with Pin Up models. Before at Windmill, they were 180. So people telling me cost of living went up 30%? And if you are a girl on Soi 6, 2000 would make it 100% pre CoVid increase. Bronx Pizza is now 80 for 1 slice, 140 for 2. Before, they were 70 and 125. So 12% is more like inflation and reasonable. Don't confuse the sex entertainment business with basic economy and everyday life. Especially, when there is still 89 baht draft beer at Baccara and the upstairs never did reopen again. I would say, the lack of spending is the reason why prices have inflated. Girls and staff are responsible to make their own money. Hell, even the security guys all have number badges like the dancers and expected to get their tips and drink quotas met to meet the salary.2 guys do confuse Windmill girls to the Better Looking Palace Girls.
Notice I didn't say Pin Ups. ,. LOL.
Raj Patela
10-29-23, 05:57
Windmill lady drink prices are now 260 baht. Higher than the models at other clubs. Nobody confuses Windmill girls with Pin Up models. Before at Windmill, they were 180. So people telling me cost of living went up 30%? And if you are a girl on Soi 6, 2000 would make it 100% pre CoVid increase. Bronx Pizza is now 80 for 1 slice, 140 for 2. Before, they were 70 and 125. So 12% is more like inflation and reasonable. Don't confuse the sex entertainment business with basic economy and everyday life. Especially, when there is still 89 baht draft beer at Baccara and the upstairs never did reopen again. I would say, the lack of spending is the reason why prices have inflated. Girls and staff are responsible to make their own money. Hell, even the security guys all have number badges like the dancers and expected to get their tips and drink quotas met to meet the salary.I've said it before Lots of Barfine makes everyone Happy. Rainbow Nana watch as a girl gets a Barfine. They slipping chits to the Waitstaff or Security,. Tips all around.
Windmill lady drink prices are now 260 baht. Higher than the models at other clubs.I sometimes go in Windmill to have a drink.
Last trip in May there was a girl I bought LDs for, price was around 200 as you said (that girl is not here anymore).
At 260 bahts, I won't buy anymore, thanks for that piece of information.
Exactly.
I used to put a lot of accurate info regularly on this website and find some arrogant supposed expert posting horse manure and after reviewing said horse's info found all of their posts to be Argumentative, irrelevant or made up.
You are 100% correct sir but like my argumentative mates on BKK forum who provide little and the dude you quoted I see little value in posting anything here again. Time to disappear for a few years.
AGAIN.
It's normal you don't get what we are talking about when you were already paying 5 K LT in May 2021.
We're talking increase of 50 to 100% in price in less than a year. Last year in November 2022 I could have every girl I wanted for 1 K ST.
In May 2023, I could still get all I wanted for 1 K but a few girls were asking for more, some of them wouldn't budge from 2 K.
This month, I could get a few in the first week but it's been a while I didn't met any girl ready to go below 1,5 K.
Lately, I agree with Mr Mexican, I also met plenty asking 2 K and being firm.
I still find some occasional very good girl for 1,5 K but it's getting a lot harder than before.
You call this complaining, I'd rather say we're informing or comparing to see if other members are being quoted same prices or not.
ElMexicant
10-29-23, 10:59
It's normal you don't get what we are talking about when you were already paying 5 K LT in May 2021.
We're talking increase of 50 to 100% in price in less than a year. Last year in November 2022 I could have every girl I wanted for 1 K ST.
In May 2023, I could still get all I wanted for 1 K but a few girls were asking for more, some of them wouldn't budge from 2 K.
This month, I could get a few in the first week but it's been a while I didn't met any girl ready to go below 1,5 K.
Lately, I agree with Mr Mexican, I also met plenty asking 2 K and being firm.
I still find some occasional very good girl for 1,5 K but it's getting a lot harder than before.
You call this complaining, I'd rather say we're informing or comparing to see if other members are being quoted same prices or not.These cats on here talking about inflation as being the cause sound like a bunch of bar owners or managers trying to make up shit, in order to justify the price increases. They act as if most of us are uneducated like the girls and staff who work their bars. Geez, fresh coconut is still 50 baht. Price of Pier 21 two curries selection and rice is still 35 baht. Smoothies are still 30 baht. Watermelon on the cart is still 20 baht. Thai economic growth for 2023 is just 2. 7% and that's the reason there are 2500-3000 baht girls on Soi 6? Gots to be kidding me. Let me explain, their business model since they want to come on ISG and try to act silly.
The demand is low and guys are NOT spending like they used to. Supply is the same, maybe a tad less with Happy, Beach, Baccara upstairs, all gone. Are there new clubs? Yes, but the just filled the spots of clubs that were there before. You have to look at the real estate that didn't get filled up and replaced. So I would say, the inventory number of girls is almost the same as pre-COVID. So if the customers (tourists) are the same amount before COVID, the inventory supply (girls) are nearly the same as before COVID, then why the higher prices on everything? It's the DEMAND. Guys are spending less, so in order to attract the girls, higher salaries are being offered. But those salaries are only paid with higher drinks prices. A girl's salary always matches her drinks' quota and barfines. Guys not willing to splurge 260 for a lady drink, then get a higher barfine and take out rate in order to meet their high salary being paid by the bar. So basically girls are there to sell the liquor inventory for the bar, they keep their lady drinks and the bar makes money off customer drinks and any dumbass girl who does' t have enough money to cover her quota deficit. Smart ones fill in the missing quotas out of their own pockets because they get it all back, rolled into their salaries.
So there goes that whole inflation mumbo jumbo talk. Remember 10 baht bus is still only 10 baht. Soi Honey girls are still banging for 1000-1200, doesn't inflation affect them? Bars changed up their business model because less and less guys are barfing and spending at the bars. Instead we / they / us are making side deals to counteract all of this price increase and totally cut out the bars / middleman / pimps / mamasans etc. Case in point, Fahreinheit model I met while going to the bathroom visited me after her shift last night for 2500 flat for ST. If you are cool, they will connect you with other girls they dance with, looking to make a quick buck during off-peak hours. If you are a gnarly with bad habits and presentation, don't press your luck.
Explorer8939
10-29-23, 11:22
This gents club in a little bit out of the way but it well worth it. It's huge. Curtain areas for naughty times. Pool table. Free lasagna, free smoked brisket and finally a great mix of ladies. 1000ST from 300 for the room. A few of the girls will ask 1500. Lady drinks 150 baht but if you buy a wrack of shots the girl will get 6 instead of 5 for 799 baht. My most recent chosen companion was Pop.Yeah, I went last night.
Decent number of ladies and customers. Had one young guy, so multiple ladies were sitting with him (no drinks).
Some ladies walking around topless, housewife types.
The only thing that bothered me were the drunks guys picking ladies up and carrying them around.
ElMexicant
10-29-23, 14:45
This gents club in a little bit out of the way but it well worth it. It's huge. Curtain areas for naughty times. Pool table. Free lasagna, free smoked brisket and finally a great mix of ladies. 1000ST from 300 for the room. A few of the girls will ask 1500. Lady drinks 150 baht but if you buy a wrack of shots the girl will get 6 instead of 5 for 799 baht. My most recent chosen companion was Pop.Jesus Christ! You mean these bitches here in the Cat Flaps pic are really asking for 1300-1800 total plus a drink or two? Which puts everything all more closer to 1500-2000 for ST? A rack of shots is like 65-100 calories per shot. Guys need to quit trying to make these girls fatter and unhealthy. Look at their arms already FFS! Plus 3500 calories is = to 1 LB. Coke Zero all the way. Geez Louise, let me stick to the 1500 TF girls like the one pictured to come to my room.
Yeah, I went last night.
Decent number of ladies and customers. Had one young guy, so multiple ladies were sitting with him (no drinks).
Some ladies walking around topless, housewife types.
The only thing that bothered me were the drunks guys picking ladies up and carrying them around.Housewife types. LOL.
Do you mean wife types. Not interested vibes?
Jesus Christ! You mean these bitches here in the Cat Flaps pic are really asking for 1300-1800 total plus a drink or two? Which puts everything all more closer to 1500-2000 for ST? A rack of shots is like 65-100 calories per shot. Guys need to quit trying to make these girls fatter and unhealthy. Look at their arms already FFS! Plus 3500 calories is = to 1 LB. Coke Zero all the way. Geez Louise, let me stick to the 1500 TF girls like the one pictured to come to my room.TF, beach road ladies and meeting ladies randomly during the day are the best value in Pattaya. The commenters that keep pushing GCs as being cheap seem to not include the price of their drinks, lady drinks and room price as a part of the ST price. Me, I count that all as the price of ST. So, to get one ST session at a GC, you're spending at least 1,600 thb for the ST session. Not bad but not that cheap either when you can easily get 1,000-,1,300 thb ST off TF and Beach Road. If the guys running the GCs want a real uptick in business, either waive the ST room fee or make it 800 thb to the ladies for ST. Just my two cents.
I haven't been to many GCs but for the most part the ladies are average looking. Soi Bongkot was mentioned in a recenr post, there is was not a single average or above looking lady at the Soi Bongkot bars when I was there in September.
She is a straight 7 for me and at 1300 well worth it. How was her service. Oh god I miss Pattaya badly.
This gents club in a little bit out of the way but it well worth it. It's huge. Curtain areas for naughty times. Pool table. Free lasagna, free smoked brisket and finally a great mix of ladies. 1000ST from 300 for the room. A few of the girls will ask 1500. Lady drinks 150 baht but if you buy a wrack of shots the girl will get 6 instead of 5 for 799 baht. My most recent chosen companion was Pop.
Explorer8939
10-30-23, 07:29
I had a lady ask to come to my condo a few days ago (asking to come today). Yesterday, she asked me "you not want I bring another lady? Which is bargirl for "you want me to bring another lady? She wanted another lady because she can take a cut from the other lady.
I told her that I didn't want another lady, which ensured that the first lady wouldn't show up today.
Okay with me, it frees up my afternoon.
The point is that ladies often want the customer to entertain a second lady. Anywhere from "buy my friend a drink", which accrues benefits, direct or indirect to the first lady, to going to the room for twice the money, half the work.
MartinFlevo
10-30-23, 08:34
I haven't been to many GCs but for the most part the ladies are average looking. Soi Bongkot was mentioned in a recenr post, there is was not a single average or above looking lady at the Soi Bongkot bars when I was there in September.Not everyone is a cheap charlie. GC's have a different business model. Focus on different customers. Complain its too expensive. Go for an alternative.
Geez Louise, let me stick to the 1500 TF girls like the one pictured to come to my room.I don't fall in love with hookers but I do regard breakfast as the most important meal of the day. What's a typical TF rate to stay till morning and get rid of morning wood?
I've never had any luck waking the dead to get a girl to come over before lunchtime. Similarly no Coconut Bar girls seems keen to stay more than an hour or two.
Cheers. G.
ElMexicant
10-30-23, 12:24
I don't fall in love with hookers but I do regard breakfast as the most important meal of the day. What's a typical TF rate to stay till morning and get rid of morning wood?
I've never had any luck waking the dead to get a girl to come over before lunchtime. Similarly no Coconut Bar girls seems keen to stay more than an hour or two.
Cheers. G.I've never done LT since early 2020, so I couldn't tell you. And that was GoGo bar girls, 5000 LT rate.
For anybody that is on the ground here and now, Monday afternoon and evening was the price EQUALIZER. If you are in Pattaya, you know exactly what I mean. I was able to land 2 girls from Soi 6, who previously wanted 2000 and 2500, for only 1200 and 1500. They budged today. Like I said, there are plenty of ways around having to pay those high prices. Paying attention to the weather is just one of them. Either suck my dick and let me poke you for some ducketts or sit there watching the rain like a fool. Sometimes pouring rain is a perfect trap to turn ST into a LT or second shot for next to nothing or free. I don't recommend this tactic for WS GoGos though, they will pressure you to buy drinks even more when it's pouring rain and you can't leave. If you aren't a regular or well known, they will even make you wait outside if you stop buying drinks every 15 minutes. And if the PR girls fill up the canopy section to protect themselves from the rain, they will throw you onto the street to get wet. Cut throat fuckers!
I would never understand these Thais. They see the dark clouds. They see the lighting on the horizon. The weather forecast says 100%. Radar shows red coming this way. And they still continue to with normal business instead of preparing for heavy rain. Then when the rain begins to pour, they all run around like chaos happening. I asked girl why don't they think ahead. She told me they prayed and laid out food blessings ahead of time to prevent bad weather and bring good luck. Just as bad as paying toothless and homeless looking street fortune tellers to bring you good luck. Missing the obvious there. Superstitious fools. LOL.
Not everyone is a cheap charlie. GC's have a different business model. Focus on different customers. Complain its too expensive. Go for an alternative.Gents Clubs are being hyped, as good value. The guy just reported the fact that quality is low and thus some of us, think they are poor value compared to the alternatives. If you know one that is currently great, feel free to share.
Banana Boi
10-30-23, 19:35
. Paying attention to the weather is just one of them. Either suck my dick and let me poke you for some ducketts or sit there watching the rain like a fool. Sometimes pouring rain is a perfect trap to turn ST into a LT or second shot for next to nothing or free. I don't recommend this tactic for WS GoGos though, they will pressure you to buy drinks even more when it's pouring rain and you can't leave. If you aren't a regular or well known, they will even make you wait outside if you stop buying drinks every 15 minutes. So true about the gogo bars. Luckily I'm a regular at many of the Walking Street bars so I can just run in and plop my ass down until it stops raining with no drink buying pressure.
Lower Soi 6 pricing on rainy days is accurate as well. Lots of guys like to go during so called High Season then come on here complaining girls charge too much. Not sure what they were expecting. That's why going from mid May to end of October is the best time to go. It's so called Low Season but it's us who have the upper hand if you know what you're doing.
EverythingThai
10-30-23, 21:21
Jesus Christ! You mean these bitches here in the Cat Flaps pic are really asking for 1300-1800 total plus a drink or two? Which puts everything all more closer to 1500-2000 for ST? A rack of shots is like 65-100 calories per shot. Guys need to quit trying to make these girls fatter and unhealthy. Look at their arms already FFS! Plus 3500 calories is = to 1 LB. Coke Zero all the way. Geez Louise, let me stick to the 1500 TF girls like the one pictured to come to my room.You are missing the plot mate. To each their own though.
Mr Enternational
10-30-23, 21:21
Gents Clubs are being hyped, as good value. The guy just reported the fact that quality is low and thus some of us, think they are poor value compared to the alternatives.Hyped how? You have to define your reason for going to a place. Is your sole reason because you want to see the most beautiful women alive? Is your reason to go have a good time and hang out with some chicks that are pretty decent? Is your reason to eat lunch and get your dick sucked by a chick for the next 30 minutes while your food digests? Depends on what you are after when speaking of the value of something. Of course different people put a different value on the same thing.
So true about the gogo bars. Luckily I'm a regular at many of the Walking Street bars so I can just run in and plop my ass down until it stops raining with no drink buying pressure.
Lower Soi 6 pricing on rainy days is accurate as well. Lots of guys like to go during so called High Season then come on here complaining girls charge too much. Not sure what they were expecting. That's why going from mid May to end of October is the best time to go. It's so called Low Season but it's us who have the upper hand if you know what you're doing.I'm back home now but the only Soi 6 chick on my Line texts me weekly for ST for $1 k thb in my room before work she goes to work; I don't bother telling her I'm not in Pattaya. The ST with her is borderline LT as she ends up staying and getting ready in my room for her Soi 6 day. A couple of hours of companionship with two pops for 1 k thb is not bad at all, beats sitting at a GC wasting money on drinks haha.
Raj Patela
10-31-23, 01:32
So true about the gogo bars. Luckily I'm a regular at many of the Walking Street bars so I can just run in and plop my ass down until it stops raining with no drink buying pressure.
Lower Soi 6 pricing on rainy days is accurate as well. Lots of guys like to go during so called High Season then come on here complaining girls charge too much. Not sure what they were expecting. That's why going from mid May to end of October is the best time to go. It's so called Low Season but it's us who have the upper hand if you know what you're doing.I don't care how much game you got. Girls still unattractive.
Not everyone is a cheap charlie. GC's have a different business model. Focus on different customers. Complain its too expensive. Go for an alternative.I find the GCs have better deals then even the bars on many occasions. Drinks specials, buy 1 lady drink get something free, buy 3 ladydrinks and get a ST barfine free etc.
12 Oct - 26 Oct Trip.
I like some of the GCs like Stunners, Maggie Mays, Buzzin etc over most Agogos except maybe Windmill + Sapphire, and the bars, but I still frequent all types.
I tried a few street FLs from the beach road with success (and several failures) but at 1200-1700 giving them the option to stay at The Hilton and sometimes life is a charm. I picked up a sweet little spinner near the Hard Rock. She explained via Bard that she was here with a Farang who kind of ditched her. She is normally a FL in Bangkok near Nana (will try her out again when back in BKK). I gave her 2000 for all night plus breakfast, lunch, drinks and a new bikini and helped her get back to Bangkok, girl had eff all money on her (sure mate). Lovely miss, great BBBJ, covered FS, 69, DFK, really nice shower massage and spa massage. Really interested WG with a dazzling smile and enthusiastic personna.
I tried talking to the ladies at normal bars and sports bars etc with zero success. Maybe young players can find an angle there.
TF. Met and serviced by 3 massage girls, 2 on site and 1 as a LT free-lancer option. All 3 are busty and in the 32-40 year age range, great toucher's of one's parts. One girl gave me a 15 minute hand massage, started licking my fingers, then one handed massaged my neck and head and groped me for a few minutes and I had the most epic O I've had this year. Remarkable.
Each lady here is 32-40 years old.
Explorer8939
10-31-23, 01:58
Gents Clubs are being hyped, as good value. The guy just reported the fact that quality is low and thus some of us, think they are poor value compared to the alternatives. If you know one that is currently great, feel free to share.The point of a Gentlemen's Club is not that they are cheap, but that they are a different experience than the traditional open bars that formerly predominated in Pattaya.
Ladies will walk around naked in a GC, whereas they play Connect4 in an open bar.
Girl is "Nice" from Sapphire, speaks barely any English but she is genuinely excited by any paying client at the Agogo and afterwards.
Gogo nos is 347, Nice. She says she is a Coyote but IMHO what's the diff?
I met her on Thai Friendly and visited her a night later at the club and for a few other occasions. I really like her, she hasn't got that hard attitude (yet) that some Agogo ladies have.
The 2nd and 3rd pics are videos she sent me but I couldn't upload them so just put up the pic screenshot.
She will entice you to Sapphire rather than go for just ST / LT and is rather hesitant but once comfortable will be BF, then later just meet on her own time. She is a right full on LBFM with only A levels off the table and obviously no BBFS.
YMMV.
Explorer8939
10-31-23, 02:00
The ladies complain there are no customers. I ask how much they charge for Short Time, and they say 3000 baht.
Duhhh.
TF, beach road ladies and meeting ladies randomly during the day are the best value in Pattaya. The commenters that keep pushing GCs as being cheap seem to not include the price of their drinks, lady drinks and room price as a part of the ST price. Me, I count that all as the price of ST. So, to get one ST session at a GC, you're spending at least 1,600 thb for the ST session. Not bad but not that cheap either when you can easily get 1,000-,1,300 thb ST off TF and Beach Road. If the guys running the GCs want a real uptick in business, either waive the ST room fee or make it 800 thb to the ladies for ST. Just my two cents.
I haven't been to many GCs but for the most part the ladies are average looking. Soi Bongkot was mentioned in a recenr post, there is was not a single average or above looking lady at the Soi Bongkot bars when I was there in September.Fair call m8. I like the beach FL. Seems more real and exciting to me. I like a few of the GC and will return to Stunners as it has a smaller more intimate vibe but I only did a few drinks there and bye byes.
Going for more street FL, reminds me of my days in Berlin trying street urchins in and around central. Hits and misses and some phonebox BBBJs. More exciting that Artemis FKK etc.
YMMV.
Raj Patela
10-31-23, 04:02
The ladies complain there are no customers. I ask how much they charge for Short Time, and they say 3000 baht.
Duhhh.I'd give her a PASS on this one.
Customers are few and far Between, even at Palace Station-. Prime time lots of open seats available.
Last few days just observing on the 6th Soi. Not a whole lot of Customers of any kind.
Explorer8939
10-31-23, 06:48
https://youtu.be/L_naWu6NX0o?si=cenMD-7taHfB4_ll
Representative of ladies in a Gentlemens' Club. Some are frequent visitors to my condo.
Each lady here is 32-40 years old.Great job, Mr. Be.
Can I go to a gentleman's club and only spend 600 or 700 baht and grope a bit and not be a cheap Charlie? Not asking for sex but more just a few beers and a few gropes and a couple Lady drinks?
The point of a Gentlemen's Club is not that they are cheap, but that they are a different experience than the traditional open bars that formerly predominated in Pattaya.
Ladies will walk around naked in a GC, whereas they play Connect4 in an open bar.
Expat American
10-31-23, 09:43
Can I go to a gentleman's club and only spend 600 or 700 baht and grope a bit and not be a cheap Charlie? Not asking for sex but more just a few beers and a few gropes and a couple Lady drinks?Yes. A lot of guys who go to GCs don't always take a girl up to the room.
Raj Patela
10-31-23, 13:53
https://youtu.be/L_naWu6NX0o?si=cenMD-7taHfB4_ll
Representative of ladies in a Gentlemens' Club. Some are frequent visitors to my condo.You need to be specific Which Ones go for 2 k long time. Hahaha. Hahaha.
Banana Boi
10-31-23, 15:12
Can I go to a gentleman's club and only spend 600 or 700 baht and grope a bit and not be a cheap Charlie? Not asking for sex but more just a few beers and a few gropes and a couple Lady drinks?Definitely. Like EA said most guys don't go to GC's to go to rooms. They go to GC's to do exactly what you're asking. DFK and mutual groping including a HJ for cheap drinks and on certain days free food. Girls aren't pushy for drinks so each lady drink should last you nearly 30 minutes. Cheap fun on a hot afternoon imo. The downside is that you may have to go to a few places before you find a girl you like. You may strike out completely as some guys post on here but on some days you may find 2 or 3 girls you like. Timing is everything. Just walk in and around then back out if you don't see anyone available. Same as gogo bars. That's why I prefer Kinnaree and Passion cause they will always have the most girls.
https://youtu.be/L_naWu6NX0o?si=cenMD-7taHfB4_ll
Representative of ladies in a Gentlemens' Club. Some are frequent visitors to my condo.
Only one I may consider is the busty one in the blue dress who holds the door open at the video intro. She'd be worth a drink so I can strip her down in the bar. Good DFK?
Scanned the video. I laughed when the old lady said "I like old men, 70 and up". Typical Thai girl who says EXACTLY what her customers want to hear.
DrainMaker
10-31-23, 20:38
https://youtu.be/L_naWu6NX0o?si=cenMD-7taHfB4_ll
Representative of ladies in a Gentlemens' Club. Some are frequent visitors to my condo.Thats bargain basement crowd.
Wouldn't touch any of them for even free.
If you talking GCs, I was in Phuket this month. The girls in Harem, Suzy Wong were stunning, as they should be in a GC. And yes it was full access for a couple of ladies drink. And the DJ was good.
AlgoCreeper4
10-31-23, 22:03
One man's "stunner" is another man's 5-6 . From the videos I see of soi 6 those girls are way frekkin hot.
Raj Patela
11-01-23, 01:03
Thats bargain basement crowd.
Wouldn't touch any of them for even free.
If you talking GCs, I was in Phuket this month. The girls in Harem, Suzy Wong were stunning, as they should be in a GC. And yes it was full access for a couple of ladies drink. And the DJ was good.The 2 in the back are what I imagined Explorer goes for.
Sherlock Holmes in me. They are not 3,000 short time girls. Explorer pays 2,000 long time.
Connect the dots People.
I'm not Hating. People in Thier mom's basement s in Iowa want to know what lower end ladies look like. I have a Friend.
It's a Struggle he thinks Beach Road 1,000 girls are Jennifer Anniston in Bikini in her Prime.
Explorer8939
11-01-23, 02:03
Thats bargain basement crowd.
Wouldn't touch any of them for even free.
If you talking GCs, I was in Phuket this month. The girls in Harem, Suzy Wong were stunning, as they should be in a GC. And yes it was full access for a couple of ladies drink. And the DJ was good.Susie Wong is a gogo. How much to take a lady home with you?
One man's "stunner" is another man's 5-6 . From the videos I see of soi 6 those girls are way frekkin hot.Amen mate, I'm here in HK, been back a week and it is depressing, US $300+ quotes from 4-5's that I wouldn't touch.
Heading back to Pattaya next week, many new faces on Thai Friendly and getting 1500ST qoutes from some now and 3000 LT. Girl who contacted me I've never seen before but she has a solid 8 face and am awaiting body pics. I've told several of the 2-3 k ST club that they're clearly missing the market and I expect sub 2 k. Some tell me to piss off. Others are dropping prices already as more and more newbies hit Pattaya etc.
YMMV.
Lady pic is active on TF and does A levels. See att.
Explorer8939
11-01-23, 04:55
The 2 in the back are what I imagined Explorer goes for.
Sherlock Holmes in me. They are not 3,000 short time girls. Explorer pays 2,000 long time.
Connect the dots People.
I'm not Hating. People in Thier mom's basement s in Iowa want to know what lower end ladies look like. I have a Friend.
It's a Struggle he thinks Beach Road 1,000 girls are Jennifer Anniston in Bikini in her Prime.It's all relative. And some ladies don't photograph well.
I can tell you that some of the Maggie Mays ladies in the video aren't in the bar much because they are constantly barfined.
So, your tastes are not universally shared.
And no, these are not the ladies quoting 3,000 baht.
DrainMaker
11-01-23, 09:55
Susie Wong is a gogo. How much to take a lady home with you?Yes, I was told by the manager that I can BF, but its between me and the girl. Same in Harem. I asked a few girls but none were keen. The setting in Harem is more suitable for a lapdance and the rest. Mind you this in Phuket.
I did manage to BF a couple of stunning parttimers from Oscar for 1 k and 3 k ST The first thing she did was feed her number in my phone, and happy to see me the next day. The girls were not the typical go go girls, full time models and sugarbabes. They were from bkk, trying to make some extra income.
I attach a pic for reference from her insta. Thats the type I would go for.
Raj Patela
11-01-23, 10:51
Yes, I was told by the manager that I can BF, but its between me and the girl. Same in Harem. I asked a few girls but none were keen. The setting in Harem is more suitable for a lapdance and the rest. Mind you this in Phuket.
I did manage to BF a couple of stunning parttimers from Oscar for 1 k and 3 k ST The first thing she did was feed her number in my phone, and happy to see me the next day. The girls were not the typical go go girls, full time models and sugarbabes. They were from bkk, trying to make some extra income.
I attach a pic for reference from her insta. Thats the type I would go for ;-)The piC is the 1,000 bahter I Presume?
Solid 8 for me. Wow.
Yes, I was told by the manager that I can BF, but its between me and the girl. Same in Harem. I asked a few girls but none were keen. The setting in Harem is more suitable for a lapdance and the rest. Mind you this in Phuket.
I did manage to BF a couple of stunning parttimers from Oscar for 1 k and 3 k ST The first thing she did was feed her number in my phone, and happy to see me the next day. The girls were not the typical go go girls, full time models and sugarbabes. They were from bkk, trying to make some extra income.
I attach a pic for reference from her insta. Thats the type I would go for ;-)
DrainMaker
11-01-23, 15:51
The piC is the 1,000 bahter I Presume?Nah.
1 k bar fine, 3 K ST.
I could have actually seen her without a barfine, but I was too keen to get on with it.
Ulalaulala123
11-01-23, 21:39
Few days back I was scanning the talent in beach road and came across few young cuties but they were demanding 2 k baht ST and that too advance which I will need to pay to an older lady sitting with them. They said once I pay I can take the girl with me. Was not comfortable paying advance for a FL so skipped it. Has anyone came across such scenarios in beach road.
I did ask them directly if lady or not and they confirmed in positive.
Explorer8939
11-02-23, 02:10
Yes, I was told by the manager that I can BF, but its between me and the girl. Same in Harem. I asked a few girls but none were keen. The setting in Harem is more suitable for a lapdance and the rest. Mind you this in Phuket.
I did manage to BF a couple of stunning parttimers from Oscar for 1 k and 3 k ST The first thing she did was feed her number in my phone, and happy to see me the next day. The girls were not the typical go go girls, full time models and sugarbabes. They were from bkk, trying to make some extra income.
I attach a pic for reference from her insta. Thats the type I would go for.You are saying that the Phuket gogo Suzy Wongs does not charge a barfine for taking a lady off the premises?
I suspect that there is a barfine, and it's very expensive.
Raj Patela
11-02-23, 02:14
Amen mate, I'm here in HK, been back a week and it is depressing, US $300+ quotes from 4-5's that I wouldn't touch.
Heading back to Pattaya next week, many new faces on Thai Friendly and getting 1500ST qoutes from some now and 3000 LT. Girl who contacted me I've never seen before but she has a solid 8 face and am awaiting body pics. I've told several of the 2-3 k ST club that they're clearly missing the market and I expect sub 2 k. Some tell me to piss off. Others are dropping prices already as more and more newbies hit Pattaya etc.
YMMV.
Lady pic is active on TF and does A levels. See att.I keep saying this so much money is being left on the Proverbial Table its INSANITY. A lot of Girls are doAble at much less than the $150-$200 they are asking for.
Just an example. A surfer type California girl returned to Rainbow 5 last night. Not a Stunner but very attractive kind of, Good proportionate body. Not outgoing, can't tell if shy or if she Hates men. LOL. Normal price is $125 all in or so. She doesn't get much action due to her deameanor is my Guess.
I'm sure sub $100 she might be quite an Earner.
Explorer8939
11-02-23, 02:26
Few days back I was scanning the talent in beach road and came across few young cuties but they were demanding 2 k baht ST and that too advance which I will need to pay to an older lady sitting with them. They said once I pay I can take the girl with me. Was not comfortable paying advance for a FL so skipped it. Has anyone came across such scenarios in beach road.
I did ask them directly if lady or not and they confirmed in positive.You were being set up.
Never pay in advance.
The most likely scenario, once you pay in advance, is that the lady gives you a story, and you are in the wind.
I used to frequent Amon's and got to know the staff quite well. The day before Halloween I returned and arranged to go up to the newer room that they have with an en suite shower. When we opened the door, the girl, upon turning on the light, let out a gasp. There was a giant pile of shit on the pillow of the bed. I imagine this was the mark of a disgruntled employee. Or customer? Anyway, they were trying to get me to go to the other set of rooms on the other side of the bar but by that point I had lost all interest. Left and will probably never return. I don't expect immaculate sanitary conditions at such places, but this should have been noticed, especially since they have a dedicated cleaning person on staff and many other older ladies standing around whose duties are ambiguous at best.
Few days back I was scanning the talent in beach road and came across few young cuties but they were demanding 2 k baht ST and that too advance which I will need to pay to an older lady sitting with them. They said once I pay I can take the girl with me. Was not comfortable paying advance for a FL so skipped it. Has anyone came across such scenarios in beach road.Yes that's the typical transaction on the beach.
There is 1 older girl for approximately 10 younger ones, normally you give her 3 K or 5 K for ST (I'm surprised they asked you only 2 K, you must be a very good negociator).
Sometimes the younger girl you chose come, sometimes it's another one, some other times nobody shows up.
But it's not a big deal, in any case you never fuck her, she just comes to steal some stuff in your room, or drink the beer you previously prepared for her.
It's a win-win transaction for every parties involved, the young girl gets cash without exposing herself to some STDs, the old one gets some cash for not moving her fat ass, and the customer can enjoy the feeling of helping poor unfortunate people living in a third world country in exchange of a very small piece of his well earned cash.
Not to be underestimated is the fact that now, customer can promote himself as an experienced monger.
If I was asked an advice, I would say just go for it, learning someting new is always worth the cash spent on it.
Yesterday night, these guys fucked up one of my last evenings in Pattaya.
https://thepattayanews.com/2023/11/02/chonburi-governor-launches-operation-in-pattaya-to-crack-down-on-crime-ahead-of-high-season/
They parked their grey minivan in the 6 around 10 pm, and suddenly almost all the ST rooms in the bars became unavailable.
I've been forced to stay longer in the bar, in case they would leave and I could finally fuck my girl, but it didn't happen.
I then realised that many of these guys paying 5 racks of Tequila are being forced to do so by the girls.
There were two gents from HK (around 60 years old), both entertaining 2 girls. One of the girls received a 5 rack, while the other one moved in the front of the bar with her co-workers after finishing her glass of LD (they are not allowed to stay with the customer once the LD is finished, if the customer refuses to pay another one).
After around 25 minutes, she walks in front of him again, he calls her over and she shows 5 with her fingers.
She says "I told you 5, but you said no". The guy says something that I didn't understand, she says 5 again. I thought he was trying to BF her, and she was asking 5 K but he didn't want to pay that.
Finally he says yes, the girl becomes all smiley again, goes to the bar and comes back with her 5 racks of Tequila.
She pressured him to get 5 LDs instead of 1 and it finally worked for her.
The sad thing for the fellow from HK is that after finishing her racks, her regular customer came in and barfined her on the spot. Of course she left the fellow from HK empty handed, smiled at him with a good bye gesture and disappeared with her lover.
Moral of the story, don't let yourself being pressured by these be*tches, it will very rarely end well.
Visiting Pattaya next month for my 2nd visit, would've liked to repeat earlier, but Covid. Can't wait, love reading you guys reports on the field.
DrainMaker
11-02-23, 14:16
You are saying that the Phuket gogo Suzy Wongs does not charge a barfine for taking a lady off the premises?
I suspect that there is a barfine, and it's very expensive.There is a bar fine, but whether the girl decides to go or not is upto her (that's what I was told), but almost always the girls don't want to go.
So if someone did manage to take a girl out it would be silly money, not really worth it.
I'd rather spend that money at Illusion, get a table, plenty of 7's and 8's happy to come join for a drink and dance away and the rest is upto your people skills.
Banana Boi
11-02-23, 15:29
(they are not allowed to stay with the customer once the LD is finished, if the customer refuses to pay another one).The girl took the old Asians as a chump. It's more likely the girl didn't want to spend any time with him unless she was making money so she gave him an ultimatum. I interpret the above sentence that this was a bar rule, not a girl rule. If a bar rule, which bar is this so I don't go? If a girl rule, shame on the manager for losing control of his/her bar.
I interpret the above sentence that this was a bar rule, not a girl rule. If a bar rule, which bar is this so I don't go?This particular bar was a Nightwish bar near Beach road side so you'll have to avoid all their bars.
I suspect that rule is being even more enforced in some of the non-Nightwish bars. I've heard that from different girls (who didn't give a fuck about me) in different bars (Candy, Poison, Fire, none of these bars are Nightwish).
Tvataham274
11-02-23, 19:43
This particular bar was a Nightwish bar near Beach road side so you'll have to avoid all their bars.
I suspect that rule is being even more enforced in some of the non-Nightwish bars. I've heard that from different girls (who didn't give a fuck about me) in different bars (Candy, Poison, Fire, none of these bars are Nightwish).I've seen the name Nightwish being thrown around a lot. Other than the bar on s6 that's called Nightwish, would anyone please share which bars are nightwish?
Much obliged.
RahulMangla2009
11-02-23, 20:20
Hi all,
I have been visiting Bangkok every 6 months for the last 2 years, and love seeing only high end girls (cost is not an issue). So, been visiting primarily Maria Massage and Black Caviar, with each session here being mostly in the 10 K+ baht. Have also visited The Pimp in Bangkok, and love the high end nature of the club there. These places (maria, black caviar, pimp) definitely has some real solid lookers / top shelf models. Occasionally, I will pull in a freelancer from Thermae bar (usually in 3-5 K baht range). Not been lucky pulling any russians / uzbeks who I believe used to come to Bangkok before covid.
I have never been to Pattaya. My understanding is that Pattaya is much cheaper than Bangkok. But, I am not looking for cheap girls. Are there high end massage parlors or gentleman clubs that I can pick girls from? I. e. Top shelf model looking girls only.
Also, what does the situation for russians / uzbeks (I. E. CIS) looking like in Pattaya these days? Are they back in Pattaya in any of the clubs or other pick up areas?
Mr Enternational
11-02-23, 23:30
I've seen the name Nightwish being thrown around a lot. Other than the bar on s6 that's called Nightwish, would anyone please share which bars are nightwish?There is a group of bars on Soi 6 owned by the same company.
https://nightwish-group.com/
I've seen the name Nightwish being thrown around a lot. Other than the bar on s6 that's called Nightwish, would anyone please share which bars are nightwish?
Much obliged.https://nightwish-group.com/
They have a website.
The girl took the old Asians as a chump. It's more likely the girl didn't want to spend any time with him unless she was making money so she gave him an ultimatum. I interpret the above sentence that this was a bar rule, not a girl rule. If a bar rule, which bar is this so I don't go? If a girl rule, shame on the manager for losing control of his/her bar.Absolutely mate. We need to avoid giving business to those members of the ruling oligarchy in these bars. I'm kind of a creature of habit so go to.
Buzzin Lounge, Stunners: GCs.
XS, Sapphire, Windmill: Agogos.
SexyintheCity, SOHO, several other Soi 6 indies: bars.
Beach Bar and some of the Soi Buokao places, none are Nightwish ASFAIK.
Yesterday night, these guys fucked up one of my last evenings in Pattaya.
https://thepattayanews.com/2023/11/02/chonburi-governor-launches-operation-in-pattaya-to-crack-down-on-crime-ahead-of-high-season/
They parked their grey minivan in the 6 around 10 pm, and suddenly almost all the ST rooms in the bars became unavailable.
I've been forced to stay longer in the bar, in case they would leave and I could finally fuck my girl, but it didn't happen.
I then realised that many of these guys paying 5 racks of Tequila are being forced to do so by the girls.
There were two gents from HK (around 60 years old), both entertaining 2 girls. One of the girls received a 5 rack, while the other one moved in the front of the bar with her co-workers after finishing her glass of LD (they are not allowed to stay with the customer once the LD is finished, if the customer refuses to pay another one).
After around 25 minutes, she walks in front of him again, he calls her over and she shows 5 with her fingers.
She says "I told you 5, but you said no". The guy says something that I didn't understand, she says 5 again. I thought he was trying to BF her, and she was asking 5 K but he didn't want to pay that.
Finally he says yes, the girl becomes all smiley again, goes to the bar and comes back with her 5 racks of Tequila.
She pressured him to get 5 LDs instead of 1 and it finally worked for her.
The sad thing for the fellow from HK is that after finishing her racks, her regular customer came in and barfined her on the spot. Of course she left the fellow from HK empty handed, smiled at him with a good bye gesture and disappeared with her lover.
Moral of the story, don't let yourself being pressured by these be*tches, it will very rarely end well.I follow the IG of a lady mate from XS that I BF a few weeks ago. She told me the usual bollocks about me being her love + one true sugar daddy and lover yada yada yada (I'm in my 50's, she is 21-23). Said she likes to drink but doesn't go on many BF or ST / LT (bullshit as she moonlights via TF).
Anyway, I was paying her off-site from XS for ST and a few LT when I was at the Hilton but when I went to stay at the Hard Rock she got all iffy and refused to go with me a few nights. Anyway, one night she wanted me to come into XS and drink with her (VIP $$ bottles etc) and promised to go home with me if maybe her friend could join (drinks and later possibly). So, horned up and stoopid, I got there at 10 pm and Miss XS was already at a table with another sugar daddy (she proclaimed him to be her favourite on her IG feed that night). She was pissed out of her mind. This guy splurged nearly 40 K on her and her friends for VIP bottles plus other shot after shot. This wee lass had 25 shots on the night and ignored me until the other guy wanted to BF her. She got up, walked over to me and told me she wanted me to take her out, not because I am Paul Newman or anything but because I treat her nicely and don't overdo the pounding of her wee little pussy. I said NO and took another girl home.
So that night, I had a few beers, no fancy drinks and paid for only 2 other LD and the Agogo girl rinsed another guy, not getting BF by anyone in the end.
2 days go by and she plays the same game with some young dude who spends nearly 30 k Baht there at XS (receipt shown on her IG). The guy had 4 girls at his table and bottles of Vodka, Champagne and Whiskey, young miss claims she had only 5-6 shots by midnight when I got there. Same story is she left the VIP guy and came to me and wanted to go with me that night. Suddenly, she wanted to stay at the Hard Rock because she heard from another girl that I had a great suite and had treated a Sapphire girl to brekky, lunch, dinner and presents etc. The gogo girls and bar girls talk incessantly with each other about business. That night I took her home and bonked her senseless. This one girl is a rinser par excellence, but, so are many of the smarter Girls in Pattaya. It is business afterall. So now, I don't go into the VIP shite 8 k-30 k drinks + BF etc in an Agogo becasue these business ladies can be had sometimes for approx 2 k ST + 4-7 K LT with no BF and crazy drinks bills. I do BF ladies but only the 1st time I'm at a club with them and want to take 'them for a test drive.
I take the XS girl's shit because I understand her game, respect it and we both get what we want. She is a true LBFM of the 100/100 performance variety has a hot 21 year old 43 kg body. She claimed to be peeved that I took out another XS girl (I'd had her before this one as well) and wanted my regular ST / LT bucks.
In the END the intellectual property finds the $$ almost always.
Also, these girls all seem to go to Republic Club after work or on non-rostered nights and play the same game with guys in VIP there.
As always YMMV.
Raj Patela
11-03-23, 00:59
I'm a bit lost.
Girl gave guy an Option. Buy a Tray or don't Enjoy my company.
I wouldn't hate on Girl for that. That the guy Caved is on Him.
If a girl is sitting with a guy it auto takes her off the market. I'm with her. It's our job to find girls who aren't Disgusted by us. Hahaha.
I wish Baitoey was more Friendly, for example.
Raj Patela
11-03-23, 01:01
Nightwish bars controlled by a Mouthy Foreigner.
I just find it hard to believe Thais are OK with this.
Gnomesaying.
The girl took the old Asians as a chump. It's more likely the girl didn't want to spend any time with him unless she was making money so she gave him an ultimatum.I was there again the next day. The 2 same guys came back too.
Same girl unleashed her best smile and tried to snake herself between Asian guy's arms, but this time he rejected her and they spent the evening entertaining two other girls.
She didn't really care much, her lover came again and barfined her a bit later.
https://nightwish-group.com/
They have a website.That website doesn't show all the bars accurately.
Look at these two pics, with some exceptions.
For example, right now, the Nightwish bar near Beach road is closed for renovation, they moved all their girls to a new bar (Offshore) located near Exotica.
There are probably a few other bars not shown on these pics too, like Mod's bar and Omega.
Raj Patela
11-03-23, 03:15
If not Nightwish bars what then. TOMCATS. LOL.
P.S. So far the best girl I found belong to the bar next to Desire. Pretty sure not a NW Bar.
Explorer8939
11-03-23, 03:25
There is an uptick in business in Pattaya. I am seeing 50% cancellation by ladies, mostly due to them getting better customers, after they agree to come to my condo.
If there is no rain at night, I am seeing more foot traffic on Soi Chaiapoon.
But tons of available ladies, most bars are wildly overstaffed, waiting for the deluge of customers.
YMMV innit 479 at XS Agogo.
Enjoy or not.
Also, what does the situation for russians / uzbeks (I. E. CIS) looking like in Pattaya these days? Are they back in Pattaya in any of the clubs or other pick up areas?I've been very lucky. I was in Pattaya last year for a convention, but decided against staying at the Hilton because of the crowds and mess that is a megamall and hotel / convention center combo.
I had my assistant book AirBnB called the Edge, which has been mentioned here before. Instead of booking on AirBnB, I contacted the manager directly and got a week rate that was cheaper than the 4 day rate on AirBnB.
The best part was the surprise Russian MILFs in the building. Quite a few of them skinny mommies who tan an hour a day at the pool while the kids play. Playing with my drone is a natural magnet for the kids, which then involve the moms, who, judging from the arguments I overhear from the families on the floor alone, the stress of a weed smoking derelict dad, tend to be lonely wifeys starved for attention. They usually better educated, and speaks good English. Met this 28 year old mother of 2, who is totally unhappy and dying of lack of mental stimulation. We chatted about travel, art and life. By the 4th day by the pool, she snuck me her number and snuck a kiss in the gym. Not knowing what that guy does, I paid for her private STI test (for B750, Medex will come to you), and she was very open about being on birth control. So I was making sweet love with her the last 2 days of my trip, and I have been returning to Pattaya every 2-3 months now to continue seeing said MILF, instead of slogging it in BKK pollution, with her sneaking out daily for an hour or so each time. If I want a little more (pay action, Tinder / AFF / TF are available, pay for ST with transport, or head to the local GCs or even a massage place where the girls are bored and who won't make 4 k a day doing massage.
TLDR: condos are nice places to meet Russian MILFs.
This may be a silly question but do you feel like there is a correlation between low / high season and BBFS availability? I always traveled in low season and found my BBFS success to be about 60% most of the times going with the flow, I rarely asked before barfine.
Am I stupid if I think BBFS might be significantly less available in high season given the more options for the ladies? I'm thinking about going during high season for once.
YMMV innit 479 at XS Agogo.
Enjoy or not.Mods can you delete my attached post and pics as I have badly messed up the ladies in the thread and it is misleading.
Apologies.
There is an uptick in business in Pattaya. I am seeing 50% cancellation by ladies, mostly due to them getting better customers, after they agree to come to my condo.
If there is no rain at night, I am seeing more foot traffic on Soi Chaiapoon.
But tons of available ladies, most bars are wildly overstaffed, waiting for the deluge of customers.I'm back next week. But even in Sep / Oct when last in town I had an almost 50% no show / cancellation on TF ladies which luckily made me go the beach road route, massage route and $$ Agogo, GC and bar routes.
YMMV.
P.S. So far the best girl I found belong to the bar next to Desire. Pretty sure not a NW Bar.It's Candy bar, not a NW.
I met a young girl that I liked a lot there a few weeks ago.
Probably the best body of all the girls I met this trip. She was very friendly and funny downstairs, all over me for the time we were there, but she became a complete star fish the moment we got in the room (something I didn't came across for a long time on the 6). It's a shame, I would have repeated her many times if she had put a bit of effort.
By the way, when it was time to pay the bill they charged two more drinks on it. The girl didn't understand, then the cashier didn't understand. It took her a whole 5 minutes to clear the error.
Mathew1984
11-04-23, 06:25
It's happening to me.
I thought the reports of Soi 6 girls not going with Customers was Fake News.
I can't even get to discussion of Price. They just not Interested.Especially if you are Indian, its the case. There could be some who say we are white it happened to me. But probably some 20% of white guys get turned down if they are old. But if you are Indian they will turn you down 90% if the time. Thailand is low key racist.
Member #4807
11-04-23, 07:37
Most of topics here are related to bargirls, GC, soi 6 , thai friendly, beach road and the whole lot. Besides that I really adore the hundreds of massage places scattered around Pattaya. Not talking about the soapies and soi honey obvious outlets but the ordinary shops and the talent one can find. Some shops have new young ladies, some have overweight milfs and even grannies. Most of them goes days without seeing a client so more yes than no you will be treated like a king. Every visit I look for these kinda shops like in the 3rd road or jomtien hidden alleys. I avoid the beach road ones, too commercial and always full with tourists. Have to say I always managed to find gems and even had FS with the price of an oil massage and few baht tips. Ingeneral and personally I find it a better thrill and exciting hunt in these shops during the day.
Excuses for my broken english guys, and well done for all contributors.
Most of topics here are related to bargirls, GC, soi 6 , thai friendly, beach road and the whole lot. Besides that I really adore the hundreds of massage places scattered around Pattaya. Not talking about the soapies and soi honey obvious outlets but the ordinary shops and the talent one can find. Some shops have new young ladies, some have overweight milfs and even grannies. Most of them goes days without seeing a client so more yes than no you will be treated like a king. Every visit I look for these kinda shops like in the 3rd road or jomtien hidden alleys. I avoid the beach road ones, too commercial and always full with tourists. Have to say I always managed to find gems and even had FS with the price of an oil massage and few baht tips. Ingeneral and personally I find it a better thrill and exciting hunt in these shops during the day.
Excuses for my broken english guys, and well done for all contributors.I like soapies but my problem with them has been the lack of lookers and abundance of older ladies. Great that you found gems. Perhaps in my next visit I'll have a little more patience and spend more time going from one to the other.
Most of topics here are related to bargirls, GC, soi 6 , thai friendly, beach road and the whole lot. Besides that I really adore the hundreds of massage places scattered around Pattaya. Not talking about the soapies and soi honey obvious outlets but the ordinary shops and the talent one can find. Some shops have new young ladies, some have overweight milfs and even grannies. Most of them goes days without seeing a client so more yes than no you will be treated like a king. Every visit I look for these kinda shops like in the 3rd road or jomtien hidden alleys. I avoid the beach road ones, too commercial and always full with tourists. Have to say I always managed to find gems and even had FS with the price of an oil massage and few baht tips. Ingeneral and personally I find it a better thrill and exciting hunt in these shops during the day.
Excuses for my broken english guys, and well done for all contributors.I am right there with you. I really enjoy strolling the smaller streets and looking for something that catches my eyes in one of the smaller shops. I found a really nice 40ish MIFL in one of the shops on Beach Rd. Near 13/1. She gave me a nice massage and told me they did not give any extras, and that meant NONE. However, she did tell me she would be happy to visit my hotel room. I offered to arrange an outcall massage, she told me to just barfine her out of the shop and she would stay as long as I wished and it would save me money since I didn't have to pay for outcall massage. She stayed long enough for two FS sessions, plus a fun lunch and dinner, kissed me on the cheek and left at my request. I was an idiot and forgot to get her LINE. Went back after golf the next day and asked her to let me barfine her again. She was all smiles and her colleagues were smiling at me while I waited for her to get her things together. She has since returned home and I don't want to invite her back to Pattaya only because I don't want to have someone with me for days on end.
Especially if you are Indian, its the case. There could be some who say we are white it happened to me. But probably some 20% of white guys get turned down if they are old. But if you are Indian they will turn you down 90% if the time. Thailand is low key racist.Thailand isn't low key racist, it's openly racist. The lighter your skin the better you're treated. I have Thai friends both male and female that attest to this. There's a reason why so many young girls in BKK are pale white, with the nose jobs to make their noses thinner to more resemble European features. They end up with the butchered looking nose that I find unattractive but I guess the girls prefer it.
A subtle example, my recent trip to Pattaya in Sept and Oct I'd frequent a massage shop on Buakho daily for foot massage, so sitting in towards the front of the shop and able to see all the people walking by. The massage shop workers were of all ages, young and middle aged and old. Anytime a young, shirtless Caucasian Chad walked by these massage workers would go crazy hollering in Thai and banging on the window front for the Chad to come inside. It was weird to witness in person. Kind of the equivalent of the construction workers on a construction site observing a hottie walking by and the cat calls ensue. I visited this shop around 30 days and the hootin and the hollerin was reserved for only Caucasian guys.
Mr Enternational
11-04-23, 20:12
Went back after golf the next day and asked her to let me barfine her again. She was all smiles and her colleagues were smiling at me while I waited for her to get her things together. She has since returned home and I don't want to invite her back to Pattaya only because I don't want to have someone with me for days on end.So why not just tell her to come for 2 days only? Instead of barfining them you can always just get them to come stay over when they finish work, which for most massage shops is 11 pm or midnight.
I have never been to Pattaya. My understanding is that Pattaya is much cheaper than Bangkok. But, I am not looking for cheap girls. Are there high end massage parlors or gentleman clubs that I can pick girls from? Top shelf model looking girls only.The conventional wisdom is that the "top shelf" girls who look like a "model" are concentrated in the go-go clubs on Walking Street. So if your primary focus is on looks, that's where you should start. You'll pay top dollar for the barfine and the girl's fee. Long time will be almost impossible. Drinks will be expensive, and you should know some girls make enough money hustling lady drinks that they seldom go with customers. Sometimes the girl waits until you've spent serious money on drinks to disclose this. Or she claims to be having her period.
There are a handful of soapies in Pattaya. But they are nothing like the expensive lavish establishments in Bangkok, either in terms of the talent or the facilities. There are numerous storefront massage parlors all over town. You might get lucky and find a hottie in one of these places, but it's going to take a lot of shoe leather. As for "gentlemens clubs," in Pattaya that means something different than it does in Bangkok. Most of them are pretty basic bars that open early in the afternoon. They specialize in cheap drinks and raunchy girls willing to get busy in the bar or in spartan rooms upstairs at bargain prices. The GCs are popular with thrifty sex-pats and other Cheap Charlies. Probably not your cup of tea.
Go back a year in the Pattaya forum and read the reports. You'll see that the naughty boy scene in Pattaya is more downmarket than the places you frequent in Bangkok.
Traveler95
11-04-23, 22:55
When I came to Pattaya in the past, I only went to Devil's Den (now closed) and one GC Club 007 soi Bongkot.
As I come in again in one in two weeks, I have two questions for the regulars:
Can I go to Windmill agogo just for the show and the atmosphere (ordering a drink of course) and can we go as a couple (with my wife).
In Pattaya are there equivalents to Bangkok massage parlors like Snowwhite and Tulip where the service is almost guaranteed for a fixed price?
Thank you in advance.
LittleBigMan
11-05-23, 03:45
Most of topics here are related to bargirls, GC, soi 6 , thai friendly, beach road and the whole lot. Besides that I really adore the hundreds of massage places scattered around Pattaya. Not talking about the soapies and soi honey obvious outlets but the ordinary shops and the talent one can find. Some shops have new young ladies, some have overweight milfs and even grannies. Most of them goes days without seeing a client so more yes than no you will be treated like a king. Every visit I look for these kinda shops like in the 3rd road or jomtien hidden alleys. I avoid the beach road ones, too commercial and always full with tourists. Have to say I always managed to find gems and even had FS with the price of an oil massage and few baht tips. Ingeneral and personally I find it a better thrill and exciting hunt in these shops during the day.
Excuses for my broken english guys, and well done for all contributors.I've always been a legit massage person first due to my lower back injury decline surgery I get by on massage. Living here I've lost count but hundreds if not close to a thousand. As for the extras the main location, Soi Honey, particularly with Paradise found some real gems when unexpected even a few that could easily work at a GoGo. I still remember many years ago having a fallout with my regular at a GoGo, on the way home cruise through Soi Honey at 4 am, Paradise sitting outside all alone playing on her phone 22-year, white skin. Regardless of my intent although not a legit place a decent oil before I turned over and she took off her top I said wow, those days I didn't need any help she became pretty much a regular along with two or three.
The majority of the time I never look it just happens while coming and going. Not wanting to get into looks etc. There have been times when something catches my eye in uniform or not I start with a foot massage and go from there. In conversation, at least for me I know whether they are interested in giving up more through the years I've had hit-and-miss throughout town, Jomtien, Darkside, and North Pattaya but at least come away with a foot or oil massage. The south end of 2nd Road, leading down to WS. Where I usually park my bike I've gotten a few gems I stick to the east side since there are too many Arabs and Indians on the other side for my taste.
One place that is overlooked is on Pattaya Klang, both sides close to the beginning of Soi Buakhao, whether in uniform or not I've found the most gems. Several times a year I park my bike down.
Between 3rd Road and Soi Buakhao while walking down to Soi Baukhao to check them out while they are sitting once past Soi Buakhao I cross Klang and do the other side and back to bike if nothing is found. The catch is living here I can take or leave need to put in the time.
For eye candy, I like the GoGo just to relax but that is getting really old due to the owner's need to monopolize the market. I've seen these girls at XS, and agree with others they have the best-looking girls but at my age and time, I can take or leave it a majority of the time I look and leave. I was inside Pin Up a few days ago stepped in got a prime seat, and ordered a cheap draft it wasn't the drink, but within a few minutes of getting the draft every waiter or waitress that walked by grabbed my bin to check the time I sat down was there ten minutes close to half dozen times. The Asian guy next to me was there already same thing after the lady pointed at his drink basically to ask another he declined some words were exchanged paid the bill and left.
Bacarra has always been my go-to place to have a bit of fun now I won't step into the place regardless of how many girls I might know since it opened. So today look leave and scoop out massage places so far majority FS with the oil is 1000 depending on location. Good luck hunting!
The cheap legit foot massages and cheap Thai food are actually more important to me than the fringe benefits. Not that those aren't important too it's just that the fringe benefits is not a daily thing anymore. LOL.
ElMexicant
11-05-23, 12:43
The conventional wisdom is that the "top shelf" girls who look like a "model" are concentrated in the go-go clubs on Walking Street. So if your primary focus is on looks, that's where you should start. You'll pay top dollar for the barfine and the girl's fee. Long time will be almost impossible. Drinks will be expensive, and you should know some girls make enough money hustling lady drinks that they seldom go with customers. Sometimes the girl waits until you've spent serious money on drinks to disclose this. Or she claims to be having her period.Did you really tell this more than likely Indian or Middle Eastern poster to start his search for top shelf models at the gogo bars on WS? Yeah um right. Good luck with making it a few steps near the club before getting pointed away by the guards.
Banana Boi
11-05-23, 17:15
Can I go to Windmill agogo just for the show and the atmosphere (ordering a drink of course) and can we go as a couple (with my wife).
In Pattaya are there equivalents to Bangkok massage parlors like Snowwhite and Tulip where the service is almost guaranteed for a fixed price?Re. Windmill yes and yes. Tipping a girl a 100 here and there will get you a lot more attention.
By Snow White and Tulip I am assuming you mean skank massage places rather than just vanilla sex? Dirty girls are everywhere you just have to find them. The locale doesn't matter but if you want to increase the ease of finding a skank girl start off at BJ bars like Post Office and Telephone Booth. Definitely not the best lookers but mileage will be high. Since you used to go to 007 all the other girls on the Soi Full Love Inn BJ bars are relatively the same mileage YMMV.
Anytime a young, shirtless Caucasian Chad walked by these massage workers would go crazy hollering in Thai and banging on the window front for the Chad to come inside. .......the hootin and the hollerin was reserved for only Caucasian guys.
Was it only because the shirtless white guy was young and fit? What if the shirtless guy was the usual 70 year old hairy chested overweight white guy you see in Pattaya?
No "hootin and the hollerin" for the young Koreans and Japanese? That's odd.
I like soapies but my problem with them has been the lack of lookers and abundance of older ladies.
Have Pattaya soapies gone that downhill? In the good soapies you usually see a group of pretty decent pale skinned thin young girls in the expensive VIP section. What time do you normally hit the soapies?
I do not get ignored when I walk past massage shops. I am always and I do mean always encouraged to come in into the shop. I have been told they love me and have been offered marriage proposals. In fact, I wear mirrored sunglasses. I was riding the Baht bus and it was at a stop light. I was just looking in the general direction of a massage shop and one of the girls insisted on waving at me repeatedly. Finally I waved back and they all started laughing and giggling that she got me to acknowledge her.
I have not received different treatment from any restaurant, beer bar, gogo bar, gentleman's club nor from any girl from beach road or Thai Friendly. Please remember that they all have eyes and they can all see me. I guess the color of my Baht notes were the same as everyone else's. I have over 150 unanswered emails in the Thai Friendly mailbox. If I am being treated poorly, I have not noticed it yet.
"I'm going to spread the news, that if feels this good getting used, well they can just keep on using me, until they use me up."
I have been in Pattaya for almost three months. And most of my experiences do not align with things I see written here in the Pattaya Reports section.
The only racism I have experienced have been from other farrangs that were melanin challenged. And quickly let them know they were not in Kansas (or California for that matter) anymore and they better secure that bullshit. Both assholes shut the fuck up and got out of my face.
Thailand isn't low key racist, it's openly racist. The lighter your skin the better you're treated. I have Thai friends both male and female that attest to this. There's a reason why so many young girls in BKK are pale white, with the nose jobs to make their noses thinner to more resemble European features. They end up with the butchered looking nose that I find unattractive but I guess the girls prefer it.
A subtle example, my recent trip to Pattaya in Sept and Oct I'd frequent a massage shop on Buakho daily for foot massage, so sitting in towards the front of the shop and able to see all the people walking by. The massage shop workers were of all ages, young and middle aged and old. Anytime a young, shirtless Caucasian Chad walked by these massage workers would go crazy hollering in Thai and banging on the window front for the Chad to come inside. It was weird to witness in person. Kind of the equivalent of the construction workers on a construction site observing a hottie walking by and the cat calls ensue. I visited this shop around 30 days and the hootin and the hollerin was reserved for only Caucasian guys.
Re. Windmill yes and yes. Tipping a girl a 100 here and there will get you a lot more attention.
By Snow White and Tulip I am assuming you mean skank massage places rather than just vanilla sex? Dirty girls are everywhere you just have to find them. The locale doesn't matter but if you want to increase the ease of finding a skank girl start off at BJ bars like Post Office and Telephone Booth. Definitely not the best lookers but mileage will be high. Since you used to go to 007 all the other girls on the Soi Full Love Inn BJ bars are relatively the same mileage YMMV.
Was it only because the shirtless white guy was young and fit? What if the shirtless guy was the usual 70 year old hairy chested overweight white guy you see in Pattaya?
No "hootin and the hollerin" for the young Koreans and Japanese? That's odd.
Have Pattaya soapies gone that downhill? In the good soapies you usually see a group of pretty decent pale skinned thin young girls in the expensive VIP section. What time do you normally hit the soapies?Some shirtless but most in tank tops. No banging on windows for Japanese or Korean. Shit was funny to witness so many times in person. Like I see a hot girl, I stare at her and go a long on my way. These ladies literally bang on a window front when they see a hot dude, that's some weird, childish shit. But women, especially in Thailand, have a childish nature to them, there's positives and negatives to that, for me the pos outweighs the neg.
I have been back home from Thailand a few weeks now and thoroughly miss the convenience and affordability of being able to pay for ass. America is one depressing shit hole on so many levels.
When a girl in a go go tells you that she is having her period, I always tell them.
That I am ok with that and actually prefer it. Their reactions can be hysterical.
The conventional wisdom is that the "top shelf" girls who look like a "model" are concentrated in the go-go clubs on Walking Street. Sometimes the girl waits until you've spent serious money on drinks to disclose this. Or she claims to be having her period.
There are a handful of soapies in Pattaya. But they are nothing like the expensive lavish esta
Go back a year in the Pattaya forum and read the reports. You'll see that the naughty boy scene in Pattaya is more downmarket than the places you frequent in Bangkok.
Raj Patela
11-06-23, 02:58
Re. Windmill yes and yes. Tipping a girl a 100 here and there will get you a lot more attention.
By Snow White and Tulip I am assuming you mean skank massage places rather than just vanilla sex? Dirty girls are everywhere you just have to find them. The locale doesn't matter but if you want to increase the ease of finding a skank girl start off at BJ bars like Post Office and Telephone Booth. Definitely not the best lookers but mileage will be high. Since you used to go to 007 all the other girls on the Soi Full Love Inn BJ bars are relatively the same mileage YMMV.
Was it only because the shirtless white guy was young and fit? What if the shirtless guy was the usual 70 year old hairy chested overweight white guy you see in Pattaya?
No "hootin and the hollerin" for the young Koreans and Japanese? That's odd.
Have Pattaya soapies gone that downhill? In the good soapies you usually see a group of pretty decent pale skinned thin young girls in the expensive VIP section. What time do you normally hit the soapies?Chocolate Men get the most reaction of Soi 6 girls as they walk by. Weird. Especially from the Dark Skin Heavy Set Girls. Hahaha.
Soapies seem to Cater to our lovely Friends from an unmentionable country. Resulting talent available to their liking.
On Thai Friendly, girls tell me they are on their period. And then they offer to deliver themselves to my room and suck my dick for 500 THB.
Now, I will wait for the inevitable voices from the peanut gallery to start their cacophony as they begin criticizing the appearance of the prostitutes I hire without ever seeing them. We might even get a solo performance.
Does "top shelf" and "model" pussy fuck better?
Explorer8939
11-06-23, 03:17
When you have bought a drink for a lady in a bar, it's very common for the bargirl to ask you to buy her friend a drink. Often, the request is accompanied with "she hasn't had a drink in 3 days".
Always say no.
First off, the bargirl may be lying. It's common for bargirls to cut a deal where, if one snags a customer, she gives her friend a ladydrink, thus doubling their revenues.
But, it may be the case that her friend hasn't had a ladydrink for 3 days. If so, don't buy her a drink. If the lady cannot attract customers, she needs to find a job in another line of work.
Explorer8939
11-06-23, 03:22
So, I am 3 days into the 7 days-for-10,000 baht experience with a lady.
The good news is that she is good with cleaning my place, the laundry and the dishes.
The bad news is that she is sick, and passes out every night early. Before she showed up, she was sick for a week, so I delayed her start until she said she was okay. But still not okay.
So, no boom-boom yet.
Maybe I send her home today.
Explorer8939
11-06-23, 03:28
On Thai Friendly, girls tell me they are on their period. And then they offer to deliver themselves to my room and suck my dick for 500 THB.
Now, I will wait for the inevitable voices from the peanut gallery to start their cacophony as they begin criticizing the appearance of the prostitutes I hire without ever seeing them. We might even get a solo performance.
Does "top shelf" and "model" pussy fuck better?Good for you. No problem for me if you pay fee for service.
My problem is with the PLMs who give money to ladies for nothing.
Banana Boi
11-06-23, 04:02
When you have bought a drink for a lady in a bar, it's very common for the bargirl to ask you to buy her friend a drink. Often, the request is accompanied with "she hasn't had a drink in 3 days".
Always say no.If the friend is ugly I always provide career consultation that she needs to look for another line of work. I'm so jai dee that I don't even charge my regular consultation rates.
If the friend is hot, I boot the first girl away and feel up and DFK the friend instead.
Raj Patela
11-06-23, 04:42
On Thai Friendly, girls tell me they are on their period. And then they offer to deliver themselves to my room and suck my dick for 500 THB.
Now, I will wait for the inevitable voices from the peanut gallery to start their cacophony as they begin criticizing the appearance of the prostitutes I hire without ever seeing them. We might even get a solo performance.
Does "top shelf" and "model" pussy fuck better?You did say Looks Don't Matter to you. Your actions certainly agree with your point of view.
No arguments from me. Carry on SiR.
MartinFlevo
11-06-23, 08:44
Does "top shelf" and "model" pussy fuck better?NO. There is a correlation between the way a girl thinks about YOU and performance. However people here are only focus on LOOKS and PRICE. Kinda lame I think.
I fly to Thailand today and got tons of girls lined up. But I know for sure a few will give me a Oscar worthy experience for a reasonable price simply because they "like" me.
You can rent pussy and sex. However its not easy to rent sexually involvement and real passion!
NO. There is a correlation between the way a girl thinks about YOU and performance. However people here are only focus on LOOKS and PRICE. Kinda lame I think.
I fly to Thailand today and got tons of girls lined up. But I know for sure a few will give me a Oscar worthy experience for a reasonable price simply because they "like" me.
You can rent pussy and sex. However its not easy to rent sexually involvement and real passion!Yes, some develop a fondness for customers, however some are just good business women and know how to turn on a performance to get a repeat customer.
NO. There is a correlation between the way a girl thinks about YOU and performance. However people here are only focus on LOOKS and PRICE. Kinda lame I think.
I fly to Thailand today and got tons of girls lined up. But I know for sure a few will give me a Oscar worthy experience for a reasonable price simply because they "like" me.
You can rent pussy and sex. However its not easy to rent sexually involvement and real passion!Thank you my ISG Brother. You and I are in complete agreement on this subject. And I have had the same experiences as you have. I have received excellent performances from girls who like me. And I have repeated with those girls. And none of my experiences has anything to do with the price point I have set for myself.
That is why I do not negotiate. If a girl does not want to accept my offer, getting her to come down is only going to make resentful she has to fuck me for "little money". Rather have a girl that accepts my offer and then give her a 100 THB tip as a performance bonus!.
Raj Patela
11-06-23, 10:48
NO. There is a correlation between the way a girl thinks about YOU and performance. However people here are only focus on LOOKS and PRICE. Kinda lame I think.
I fly to Thailand today and got tons of girls lined up. But I know for sure a few will give me a Oscar worthy experience for a reasonable price simply because they "like" me.
You can rent pussy and sex. However its not easy to rent sexually involvement and real passion!I still don't get how you Price a Bargirl other than looks.
Ideologically a 500 bahter, sub. ,com girl should give better service. I mean she can Focus there isn't a line waiting out the door for her out the door.
It all begins with looks. I'm not backing Down. Then everyone has their checklist. Lucky for commander his list is Teeny Tiny.
Explorer8939
11-06-23, 10:48
If the friend is ugly I always provide career consultation that she needs to look for another line of work. I'm so jai dee that I don't even charge my regular consultation rates.
If the friend is hot, I boot the first girl away and feel up and DFK the friend instead.There have been a couple of times when I barfined the second girl, leaving the first one in the bar.
Tvataham274
11-06-23, 14:49
When you have bought a drink for a lady in a bar, it's very common for the bargirl to ask you to buy her friend a drink. Often, the request is accompanied with "she hasn't had a drink in 3 days".
Always say no.
First off, the bargirl may be lying. It's common for bargirls to cut a deal where, if one snags a customer, she gives her friend a ladydrink, thus doubling their revenues.
But, it may be the case that her friend hasn't had a ladydrink for 3 days. If so, don't buy her a drink. If the lady cannot attract customers, she needs to find a job in another line of work.If her friend hasn't gotten a customer in three days, then I'll politely spin it around to be her fault. Why didn't your friend get a customer in 3 days? Were they not acting as good as you? Did they make the last customer angry? I like you, not your friend, so I buy you a drink or two instead.
If the two are together when you say that you like the girl and not the friend, the girl isn't going to pass aside the compliment and drink offer.
If they are not nearby and she's just pointing to a friend, she's not going to talk badly about her friend, so she'll just accept the drink offer.
Also, "No. " is a whole sentence.
Chocolate Men get the most reaction of Soi 6 girls as they walk by. Weird. Especially from the Dark Skin Heavy Set Girls. Hahaha.These are American guys most of the time. Chics are all over them because they can spend very crazy on LDs.
If her friend hasn't gotten a customer in three days, then I'll politely spin it around to be her fault. Why didn't your friend get a customer in 3 days? Were they not acting as good as you? Did they make the last customer angry? I like you, not your friend, so I buy you a drink or two instead.Most of them wouldn't understand these replies. They might even misinterpret what you said and wrongly get mad at you.
Best thing to say is to make it short like "I pay drink only for one girl" and you point at the girl you were already bying a drink to with a big smile on your face.
Also, "No. " is a whole sentence.Exactly, you can just say no with a smile. They can try to be pushy, just keep saying no, eventually the friend will get it and move back to where she came from.
No one said looks are not important. What has been said is that looks do not correlate to price paid. Furthermore everyone values different looks.
I still don't get how you Price a Bargirl other than looks.
Ideologically a 500 bahter, sub. ,com girl should give better service. I mean she can Focus there isn't a line waiting out the door for her out the door.
It all begins with looks. I'm not backing Down. Then everyone has their checklist. Lucky for commander his list is Teeny Tiny.No need to back down. Your dick and your money. The only think I have seen that is Teeny Tiny is your brain. It often appears that you lack intelligence. What ever group you happen to represent, your are the worst of them.
Chocolate Men get the most reaction of Soi 6 girls as they walk by. Weird. Especially from the Dark Skin Heavy Set Girls. Hahaha.Can you keep your racist insults of individuals who do things different from you to yourself? All you do is encourage those deep feeling about the matter to say stupid things like this:
These are American guys most of the time. Chics are all over them because they can spend very crazy on LDs.Can I say something about most of the dump ass farrangs I see running around Pattaya? They don't look like me!
Does paying more equate to a better sexual experience? Does a more attractive girl (using your personal scale) fuck better?.
I have had 6's rock my world and 10's leave me cold! Real world experience with girls who fucked me because they liked me. Pussy is Pussy when it is free. But if I am going to pay for it. I have to like the girl in the moment. I do not have a checklist. I am not flying a mother fucking plane. This is not mother fucking brain surgery for me or rocket science.
You did say Looks Don't Matter to you.Quote the post where I said that.
Your actions certainly agree with your point of viewI said I focus on the deal. I have repeatedly asked you to meet me in person and show me what you mean by "looks". You refuse to meet me. That means you have ZERO information on my actions. And you have NEVER seen a prostitute I have hired in Pattaya or anywhere else in the world Raj Raj. FACTS. Now I ask you, why are you afraid to come out from behind your computer screen and stop banging on your keyboard? Lot of talk, no action!
No arguments from me. Carry on SiR.You are entitled to your own facts. Not your own opinions.
All comments you make about me are simply your opinion. Since they are not facts we can both be right. Now please tell us more about 2500 THB Bar Fines and 5000-7000 LT sessions. Do you get three nuts out of that or just two?
Thank you my ISG Brother. You and I are in complete agreement on this subject. And I have had the same experiences as you have. I have received excellent performances from girls who like me. And I have repeated with those girls. And none of my experiences has anything to do with the price point I have set for myself.
That is why I do not negotiate. If a girl does not want to accept my offer, getting her to come down is only going to make resentful she has to fuck me for "little money". Rather have a girl that accepts my offer and then give her a 100 THB tip as a performance bonus!.Valid points. The ladies I had awesome sessions with and made a connection with text me daily eventhough I'm back home because they want to see me when I return. Whereas the ladies I had blah sessions with disappear or leave the chat on Line once they know I left Thailand. Good boom boom is more about connection and vibes than just looks, preferablly, you find ladies that have both looks and vibes. This is easier to find for the guys who live there or stay long time and that's why said guys develop a legit rotation of ladies. I hope to be that guy one day but for now I'm only in Pattaya for a month or so a year.
NO. There is a correlation between the way a girl thinks about YOU and performance. However people here are only focus on LOOKS and PRICE. Kinda lame I think.
I fly to Thailand today and got tons of girls lined up. But I know for sure a few will give me a Oscar worthy experience for a reasonable price simply because they "like" me.
You can rent pussy and sex. However its not easy to rent sexually involvement and real passion!If you are a ego centered man go for the most attractive girl in the bar- that will get you off. I would argue, if you are older male, go for the girl that you feel you have a connection with. Some like the dirtiest. Some like the newbie or the quiet silent type who you know doesn't get BF much therefore horny as fuck.
I have a rigid selection criteria that I stick to and one of my strong rules is if they don't DFK and play a bit in the bar we are not going home.
I learned my lesson in KL when at BC I had a 6 out of 10 throw herself at me. The phrase "I want your baby" came up a few times and nothing was off the table. I ditched her after the first night due to facial looks but looking back I realize I could have had a week of open slather. Fool.
Find out what works for you.
Another tactic I use is I often say I don't HAVE to have sex tonite. It usually floors them and their reaction can be very interesting. There's a lot more psychology in sex than people realize.
Anyway if an 8 out of 10 is sucking your cock does a 10 out of 10 make that sucking so much better? From where I come from where most women are 4 ot of 10 I'm way ahead.
BYVMD.
Did you really tell this more than likely Indian or Middle Eastern poster to start his search for top shelf models at the gogo bars on WS? Yeah um right. Good luck with making it a few steps near the club before getting pointed away by the guards.Unless somebody explicitly provides his nationality, I don't assume based on user name, English composition skill or other indirect evidence.
Moreover, the "Where are the hotties in Pattaya?" query is a staple from guys regardless of their home country. I thought my brief summary of the conventional wisdom would be helpful.
I concede that guys who hail from certain countries often have trouble getting admitted to go-go clubs on Walking Street and elsewhere. This prejudice has been discussed at great length, and I saw no point in going over it again.
Raj Patela
11-07-23, 01:29
I still think people are off the issue.
The issue is how you price a girl for the 1st time. THERE IS ONLY ONEWAY. No its not POPPAsan recommending a girl because her Service is good. Certainly he has no idea how Chemistry will be.
Take two girls Baitoey of Playpen FAME and one of Maggie Mays (take the median looking one, not the best and not the worst), hahahahahahahaha,. Both cost 500 baht.
No wrong answer please participate-Which one are you Buying. You have No idea on service or chemistry.
Again no wrong answer.
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