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EverythingThai
11-19-23, 09:35
We have a new Sheriff in Town. 😂.

TF Stunners for 1,000 baht. Hookay Buddy.

Keep it Real Bro.Raj yes it's true. But you have conveniently not quoted is they are my kiks. I have been seeing them for a long time. Actually, I pay a lot more for stunners in TF and at the bars when I approach a new girl on TF or choose one in a bar. I suspect you might not be able to comprehend it because Pattaya is done and dusted and all the girls are so desperate in Pattaya so they go for 500 baht and all the condo rents are discounted and none ask for 2 months deposit, only 1. lol 😜😜😜😜

Explorer8939
11-19-23, 12:11
Raj yes it's true. But you have conveniently not quoted is they are my kiks. I have been seeing them for a long time. Actually, I pay a lot more for stunners in TF and at the bars when I approach a new girl on TF or choose one in a bar. I suspect you might not be able to comprehend it because Pattaya is done and dusted and all the girls are so desperate in Pattaya so they go for 500 baht and all the condo rents are discounted and none ask for 2 months deposit, only 1. lol 😜😜😜😜Unfortunately your experience base (and mine) are not too useful for guys coming to Pattaya for a short holiday. Or are on a budget.

What would you tell a newbie on a budget who wants to go BB with a bargirl?

EverythingThai
11-19-23, 15:40
The ladies tell me about such customers ("whales".

I remember one guy who threw cash and gold around, he took one lady to Vietnam and paid her 250,000 baht (I wouldn't have fucked her for free). Took her on a boat trip and made her fuck the crew.

His last junket was to Laos, but he never came back. They found his body, but not his gold.What I have described is nothing like what you have mentioned. A 25 K bar bill is not out of the ordinary. If your theory was true, I guess I've been dead for almost 14 years. Give your head a shake you CC LOL.

EverythingThai
11-19-23, 15:42
My observations about the logistics of looking for a bargirl who allows BB pertains to mongers who come to Pattaya for a short holiday, not people who live in Pattaya.When a girl makes a decision to do BBFS, it is not based on the customer living here full time and a tourist. Sorry mate.

EverythingThai
11-19-23, 15:43
Which means you did her bareback if we are to believe what you said in an earlier post.

Out of curiosity how much was the damage, and did you buy these racks before banging?Bar tab 5000 baht and 3000ST 2 pops.

Raj Patela
11-19-23, 16:04
Bar tab 5000 baht and 3000ST 2 pops.Was she a Trooper?

Please describe her Breasts. Asking for a friend. Funny he works in a SUB.

Mr Enternational
11-19-23, 16:40
Unfortunately your experience base (and mine) are not too useful for guys coming to Pattaya for a short holiday. Or are on a budget.

What would you tell a newbie on a budget who wants to go BB with a bargirl?How Sway? You talk like guys that live in Pattaya have always lived in Pattaya. They were once guys on a short holiday too. And if they are anything like me they do things no different now than they did back then.

Raj Patela
11-19-23, 16:41
Bar tab 5000 baht and 3000ST 2 pops.5,o0 o divided by 150 baht is 33.33 drinks for those of you from Rio Linda.

Can she drink that much. She can't be over 80 pounds buck Nekkid and wet.

GentileBear
11-19-23, 19:35
Just curious. You have never had a 25k Baht bar bin? Really? Not even 1 time? Never. Not even close. I have been chastised for playing connect 4 in Pattaya with some ladies and buying them drinks by the Ultra Cheep Charlies. But in no time have I dropped that much coin in one bar. To be fair; I don't have that type of cash to burn anyway and if you guys saw how Fat I am you would wonder how I am able to fly in Economy aka Cattle class. I'll stick with my Soy 6 and Beachroad value meal dates. For $750 I think that would last me 8-10 days over there along with food and tips to the waiters / ladies and chamber maids.

Sometimes cheaper is actually more fun: Have you hung out at that Bar on the opposite side of Beach road - by the end of Soy 6 - I think it is Corner Bar or close to Corner Bar - cheap park benches and 1982 Audio Electronics. Lovely place! Cheap Beer and I get to watch the ladies at HollyWood , etc. and talk with the pattrons who - mysteriously like Garfields in Angeles City PI claim they are ex Special Forces Military - MI6 or CIA and have amazing stories. Great Vibe and Friendly. I think I paid 500 Baht Tip to the Bar a few times here because they let me sit my fat ass down and rest between Upstairs Sessions with the girls from nearby bars. That's big spending from me. And I honestly had a great time. I don't think I would be able to cum if I spent more than 7,000 THB / $250 in one night - because to me - it is just not necessary.

GatorAk
11-19-23, 20:06
Never. Not even close. I have been chastised for playing connect 4 in Pattaya with some ladies and buying them drinks by the Ultra Cheep Charlies. But in no time have I dropped that much coin in one bar. To be fair; I don't have that type of cash to burn anyway and if you guys saw how Fat I am you would wonder how I am able to fly in Economy aka Cattle class. I'll stick with my Soy 6 and Beachroad value meal dates. For $750 I think that would last me 8-10 days over there along with food and tips to the waiters / ladies and chamber maids.

Sometimes cheaper is actually more fun: Have you hung out at that Bar on the opposite side of Beach road - by the end of Soy 6 - I think it is Corner Bar or close to Corner Bar - cheap park benches and 1982 Audio Electronics. Lovely place! Cheap Beer and I get to watch the ladies at HollyWood , etc. and talk with the pattrons who - mysteriously like Garfields in Angeles City PI claim they are ex Special Forces Military - MI6 or CIA and have amazing stories. Great Vibe and Friendly. I think I paid 500 Baht Tip to the Bar a few times here because they let me sit my fat ass down and rest between Upstairs Sessions with the girls from nearby bars. That's big spending from me. And I honestly had a great time. I don't think I would be able to cum if I spent more than 7,000 THB / $250 in one night - because to me - it is just not necessary.Much respect for you. Doing what you are comfortable and happy with.

Explorer8939
11-20-23, 00:33
What I have described is nothing like what you have mentioned. A 25 K bar bill is not out of the ordinary. If your theory was true, I guess I've been dead for almost 14 years. Give your head a shake you CC LOL.By "whale", I mean the rare long time Pattaya resident / repeat visitor who racks up large bar tabs. Most Pattaya ex-pats don't do that, they are rather frugal. In fact, most have a Thai lady living with them, and can't go with bargirls LT.

I'm not saying that whales get killed off like the guy who went to Laos, he was notable for his extreme behavior.

Explorer8939
11-20-23, 00:36
When a girl makes a decision to do BBFS, it is not based on the customer living here full time and a tourist. Sorry mate.You lost the plot.

When an unknown customer (first timer in Pattaya) comes to the bar, what would you advise that he offer a lady for BB sex?

Explorer8939
11-20-23, 04:22
How Sway? You talk like guys that live in Pattaya have always lived in Pattaya. They were once guys on a short holiday too. And if they are anything like me they do things no different now than they did back then.I operate very differently now than when I was here on 2 week holidays. I did 100% barfines back then.

Now I have ladies messaging me asking to come see me.

Raj Patela
11-20-23, 08:30
By "whale", I mean the rare long time Pattaya resident / repeat visitor who racks up large bar tabs. Most Pattaya ex-pats don't do that, they are rather frugal. In fact, most have a Thai lady living with them, and can't go with bargirls LT.

I'm not saying that whales get killed off like the guy who went to Laos, he was notable for his extreme behavior.I have not lost the plot Sir.

My post are geared for the average tourist.

I spend a lot of time I'm Thailand but I'm just a Schmuck tourist.

1,000 baht for LIZZO Thai style. Checks out.

3 k for Baitoey. Checks out.

If you are Special please let us know. It Matters.

EverythingThai
11-20-23, 15:36
You lost the plot.

When an unknown customer (first timer in Pattaya) comes to the bar, what would you advise that he offer a lady for BB sex?I would advise nothing because I never go to a bar and talk about BBFS CIP. I posted that I only mention it when I am making an offer to a Thai Friendly girl. In the bar it just happens with the girl. I have fun with her in the bar. Take her for ST or LT and I get BBFS CIP. Simple and easy. Then I pay what I want to her and be done with it. They never and I never discuss price. If you can't accept that, so be it, I don't care. Its worked for me for almost 14 years.

EverythingThai
11-20-23, 15:38
By "whale", I mean the rare long time Pattaya resident / repeat visitor who racks up large bar tabs. Most Pattaya ex-pats don't do that, they are rather frugal. In fact, most have a Thai lady living with them, and can't go with bargirls LT.

I'm not saying that whales get killed off like the guy who went to Laos, he was notable for his extreme behavior.Well let's see how much you think you know. I am not frugal, but sometimes I am LOL. I have a Thai lady living with me, and I can go with bar girls LT and ST. Almost 14 years here.

EverythingThai
11-20-23, 15:40
Never. Not even close. I have been chastised for playing connect 4 in Pattaya with some ladies and buying them drinks by the Ultra Cheep Charlies. But in no time have I dropped that much coin in one bar. To be fair; I don't have that type of cash to burn anyway and if you guys saw how Fat I am you would wonder how I am able to fly in Economy aka Cattle class. I'll stick with my Soy 6 and Beachroad value meal dates. For $750 I think that would last me 8-10 days over there along with food and tips to the waiters / ladies and chamber maids.

Sometimes cheaper is actually more fun: Have you hung out at that Bar on the opposite side of Beach road - by the end of Soy 6 - I think it is Corner Bar or close to Corner Bar - cheap park benches and 1982 Audio Electronics. Lovely place! Cheap Beer and I get to watch the ladies at HollyWood , etc. and talk with the pattrons who - mysteriously like Garfields in Angeles City PI claim they are ex Special Forces Military - MI6 or CIA and have amazing stories. Great Vibe and Friendly. I think I paid 500 Baht Tip to the Bar a few times here because they let me sit my fat ass down and rest between Upstairs Sessions with the girls from nearby bars. That's big spending from me. And I honestly had a great time. I don't think I would be able to cum if I spent more than 7,000 THB / $250 in one night - because to me - it is just not necessary.Do what makes you happy mate. If you are having fun and it suits you, don't care. Enjoy Pattaya mate.

EverythingThai
11-20-23, 15:43
5,o0 o divided by 150 baht is 33.33 drinks for those of you from Rio Linda.

Can she drink that much. She can't be over 80 pounds buck Nekkid and wet.Do you actually think the lady drinks in Pattaya bars are real? If you think that, I have one really nice bridge for sale. LOL. Every bar waters down the lady drink bottle 50%. If you didn't know that, you are not a Pattaya veteran. "Why Why why " Raj asks. I will answer you. Because if they didn't, the bar would be empty of girls because they would all be passed out drunk upstairs. When you buy a lady drink for a girl you pay for her time. She can drink whatever she wants as far as I am concerned.

Paolo99
11-20-23, 16:06
Do you actually think the lady drinks in Pattaya bars are real? If you think that, I have one really nice bridge for sale. LOL. Every bar waters down the lady drink bottle 50%. If you didn't know that, you are not a Pattaya veteran. "Why Why why " Raj asks. I will answer you. Because if they didn't, the bar would be empty of girls because they would all be passed out drunk upstairs. When you buy a lady drink for a girl you pay for her time. She can drink whatever she wants as far as I am concerned.If you want the lady drinks to be real they will make it real. If you don't care what they fill in a glass you pay 150 baht for is another story.

But we're not all like you, I make a point in checking all the drinks I pay for and always ask them to fill the Sangsom Cola with a lot of Sangsom.

It's a way for me to rate the bar too, if I see they refuse to do it, I know it's a sh*t bar and would never come back. But this is mostly happening around Buakhao, soi 6 bars have always gladly followed my requests.

It's even part of the fun when you see the girl's face each time she takes a sip of her drink accompanied with the comments she makes to the bartender.

EihTooms
11-20-23, 16:52
My practice is to use some common sense in using condoms or not.

It really depends on my knowing how many customers or boyfriends she goes with.

If you were with a hot lady, but knew she was doing 8 South Asians at a time, would you use a condom or not?No, if I was attracted to her enough to want to fuck her and the terms were acceptable I would not use a condom because fucking with a condom does not work for me.

I don't see how anyone could know every move and sexual act or with whom a collection of bargirls or freelancers has been involved with before they fuck any of them with or without a condom. For all I know every hooker who ever agreed to fuck me BB just got gang-banged BB by a team of HIV-positive bisexual escaped convicts the week prior. Or non hooker for that matter. Nobody knows what she was up to prior except the girl. Not even the escaped convicts.

Banana Boi
11-20-23, 16:53
When you buy a lady drink for a girl you pay for her time. She can drink whatever she wants as far as I am concerned.100% agree with this. Couldn't care less if she drinks apple juice or beer. Tip for newbies a drink should last 20-30 minutes. If she gulps it down that's the last drink she will ever see from me. Have many girls who regret making that mistake with me especially after she sees how I treat my girls in the bar.

Tvataham274
11-20-23, 18:14
100% agree with this. Couldn't care less if she drinks apple juice or beer. Tip for newbies a drink should last 20-30 minutes. If she gulps it down that's the last drink she will ever see from me. Have many girls who regret making that mistake with me especially after she sees how I treat my girls in the bar.I had done it 2:1. 2 ladydrinks for 1 of my drinks. And my drinks do indeed last maybe 20 minutes. If she wants to drink it all quickly and ask for more. I'll decline and pay my tab.

No need to try to water the desert. If a lady is trying to rush you in the bar, she'll likely try to rush you once you go upstairs, too.

Read the situation and act accordingly. Learn to say no. Stuff would had been common sense before visiting Thailand. Why are people forgetting common sense when they are over here? Doesn't make sense.

And common sense goes for BBing too. It's always a risk, but use your common sense to avoid anything that might bite you later.

EverythingThai
11-20-23, 18:22
If you want the lady drinks to be real they will make it real. If you don't care what they fill in a glass you pay 150 baht for is another story.

But we're not all like you, I make a point in checking all the drinks I pay for and always ask them to fill the Sangsom Cola with a lot of Sangsom.

It's a way for me to rate the bar too, if I see they refuse to do it, I know it's a sh*t bar and would never come back. But this is mostly happening around Buakhao, soi 6 bars have always gladly followed my requests.

It's even part of the fun when you see the girl's face each time she takes a sip of her drink accompanied with the comments she makes to the bartender.You have absolutely no idea mate. The bottle itself is watered down 50%. You will never know. Also a lady drink can be what the girl wants. I don't understand your logic but to each their own.

HardDrive
11-20-23, 18:29
You have absolutely no idea mate. The bottle itself is watered down 50%. You will never know. Also a lady drink can be what the girl wants. I don't understand your logic but to each their own.I have no problem if a girl does not want to drink alcohol. As long as she nurses her drink and makes it last as long as my beer or cocktail, I am good with it. I am not going to force a girl to get drunk. The way I see it, the lady drink price is for her company, not the actual drink.

EverythingThai
11-20-23, 18:31
I have not lost the plot Sir.

My post are geared for the average tourist.

I spend a lot of time I'm Thailand but I'm just a Schmuck tourist.

1,000 baht for LIZZO Thai style. Checks out.

3 k for Baitoey. Checks out.

If you are Special please let us know. It Matters.

You are replying to me and quoting someone else LOL or maybe you are even replying to someone who was replying to me lol. Anyways, for the sake of this thread, you have lost the plot lol. Pattaya is not done and dusted, condo prices are going up. There are so many ladies here for high season now that there are plenty of them to go around and walking street is crazy busy on most nights. Soi 6 is steady during the week, but crazy on the weekends. Food prices are low and girls on soi 6 and TF don't go for 500 baht lol. Oh one more thing, the Repent girls want 1500-2000 ST no matter how good looking you think you are. If you walk up and down soi 6 enough times, one of the bars might offer you a job cleaning the glasses lol. Then you might earn enough to pay for your next ST after 2 weeks lol. last time I was there, I tipped the cleaner 1000 baht so tips are good. Yes, that's correct. With all due respect, you are far from being a Pattaya expert. far far far far far. But we all love you anyways Raj. Joob joob na.


Ok Raj, Here is something you might better understand. I hacked into your line and copied this message from your Thai bar girl girlfriend. Here it is. This is how Raj gets on in Pattaya.


Here is the message:

My Daling

I love you and I miss you too much. My friend in bar say you old man look same same monkey but I know you very hansum man. I have many problem I write you before that buffalo me sick. Now it die Fall down and dead in middle rice field. Bad fortune when it fall it fall on papa and break he leg in many place. Now he not work. Brother me make stretcher bamboo he take from roof house. Roof come down and rain in house. He take papa to hospital motorcycle. Have big accident when he come home hit police car. Police say brother me blame. Police say he mudt pay big money. not worry daling motorcycle you buy OK but Police car bad broken. Bad luck make Mama heart problem. Doctor say she must triple by-pass. I no understand but brother say you understand.

You know daling I only work in bar as cashier and not go with man I wait for you come back Pattaya but if you no help me I think I hab to go with man for pay bills.

Old people my village say you responsible. if you send money me before buy medicine sick buffalo then it no die, papa no break leg, house have roof, brother no ride into police car, Mama no have heart problem.

Please send me 200,000 baht for my bank. Papa fix 10,000 new roof 30,000, new police car 100,000, mama fix 50,000. I take off 2,000 baht for sell buffalo meat but me have to pay more hospital bill for 24 people have problem eat contaminated meat 12,000 baht. I not know money India but brother me say me it 1 THB = 2.26787 rupees mid-market rate close of trading yesterday. This means you send me 473,733.61 your rupees.

Let me give you some advice. Open up a Thai bank account as a tourist. Yes, I can arrange it for you on a tourist visa. Then transfer the money to your Thai account from India using Wise. You will get a better rate. lol

EverythingThai
11-20-23, 19:21
100% agree with this. Couldn't care less if she drinks apple juice or beer. Tip for newbies a drink should last 20-30 minutes. If she gulps it down that's the last drink she will ever see from me. Have many girls who regret making that mistake with me especially after she sees how I treat my girls in the bar.

The worst thing that can happen to a punter in Pattaya is taking a drunk bar girl home and watching her puke all night without getting any. Thats why I could care less what she drinks. Just enough to be tipsy is best for me. Often the girls I hang out with in the bars drink a combo of tequila shots, tequila rose shots, sangsong and coke, and orange juice. Yes, all the shots are watered down 50/50. I usually order a few pizzas for the girls and it keeps their stomachs full so they can absorb the alcohol.

Mr Enternational
11-20-23, 19:50
You have absolutely no idea mate. The bottle itself is watered down 50%. You will never know. Also a lady drink can be what the girl wants. I don't understand your logic but to each their own.I definitely know. Because I drink Sangsom on ice and the blue moon times that I do buy a lady drink I make them get the same thing. Then when they are like it is too strong I taste it, then let them add soda if they want. Lady drink is not what the girl wants; lady drink is the drink you want to buy for the girl. Sure you can ask what she wants, but you have the final say so in what you are going to pay for.

Goferring
11-20-23, 19:57
Just enough to be tipsy is best for me.I agree. The big risk of an 80 lb Asian drinking all night is that they go from giggly to comatose in the space of one drink. She's then practically useless for the rest of the night.

I never complain if a girl wants to slow down and switch to juice or water.

Enjoy. G.

GentileBear
11-20-23, 21:31
33.33 drinks for those of you from Rio Linda.

.You are Busted Raj! I knew you were a Scottish Rite Mason of the 33%. You should not advertise the Keepers Of Odd Knowledge Society 'KOOKS'protocols that only a few who have been to Rio Linda know. As Inside Baseball with KC Royals you can get!

Paolo99
11-20-23, 22:38
You have absolutely no idea mate. The bottle itself is watered down 50%. You will never know. Also a lady drink can be what the girl wants. I don't understand your logic but to each their own.This post sound typical from a bar owner's point of view.

Keep posting mate, the more you post the more you sound like one and I think most of your posts are bullsh*t anyway.

If you were just a customer you wouldn't be sure you know better than others.

I don't care if the bottle is watered down as long as she gets real alcohol in it and I taste it, so I can see there is a lot of alcohol in it.

A lady drink cannot be whatever she wants because I am the customer. As long as I am the one who pay, she will get whatever I decide to pay for her, and I very rarely decide to pay something else than Sangsom Coke.

You don't understand my logic because you don't have a customer's logic.

Raj Patela
11-21-23, 00:17
Do you actually think the lady drinks in Pattaya bars are real? If you think that, I have one really nice bridge for sale. LOL. Every bar waters down the lady drink bottle 50%. If you didn't know that, you are not a Pattaya veteran. "Why Why why " Raj asks. I will answer you. Because if they didn't, the bar would be empty of girls because they would all be passed out drunk upstairs. When you buy a lady drink for a girl you pay for her time. She can drink whatever she wants as far as I am concerned.I'm aware of the watered down drinks. When Desire Livestream started the girls could hardly stand at the end. The popular one.

Now they still make the face but never get drunk.

After 33 waters isn't Baitoey peeing all the time.

At times I see girls with Trays of Drinks. No customers in sight. Looks like a Celebration. Any intelligence. Looks real to me.

Raj Patela
11-21-23, 00:19
You are Busted Raj! I knew you were a Scottish Rite Mason of the 33%. You should not advertise the Keepers Of Odd Knowledge Society 'KOOKS'protocols that only a few who have been to Rio Linda know. As Inside Baseball with KC Royals you can get!Rio Linda is what Rush Limbaugh used as a Reference.

Raj Patela
11-21-23, 00:43
It's better to gauge activity in an area by Hotel Rates. They know if people coming or not. Red Planet down to $15 again this week.

Then anecdotal to confirm.

Sunday Palace was as devoid of customers as I've ever seen.

Tantra can't say was slow, always has just me and maybe one other customer.

Last night can't say it was slow, just me and another guy.

Sharks has another Pretty Face. Black Girl.

Pound for pound Shark has got to have the best Quality girls in all of Thailand.

Definition of Quality meaning they look good.

Raj Patela
11-21-23, 01:12
Repent ✔65039; s out 1,500-2,000.

Although the one I want wanted 2,500. Did not get good Vibes though.

Thoroughly research every Nook and Cranny of the Soi I Rate Repeat as the Best Bar in terms of girl quality.

Not Quality as defined by You Know Who. No 📴 sense.

Last night as real Grungy Old Farang who looked like Death ask a Repent girl how much, she to my surprise respond with the 2 finger salute,. I took it as 2 k. I thought she might give him the Cold shoulder- 😱 he was Ugly and old.

Just a Researcher. Maybe ask for a Friend.

Explorer8939
11-21-23, 02:01
Well let's see how much you think you know. I am not frugal, but sometimes I am LOL. I have a Thai lady living with me, and I can go with bar girls LT and ST. Almost 14 years here.Clearly, you are the exception to the rule. Most Thai ladies would not take kindly to their Farang husband going LT with a bargirl.

Except that it would give them time to see their Thai kik.

Explorer8939
11-21-23, 02:07
I would advise nothing because I never go to a bar and talk about BBFS CIP. I posted that I only mention it when I am making an offer to a Thai Friendly girl. In the bar it just happens with the girl. I have fun with her in the bar. Take her for ST or LT and I get BBFS CIP. Simple and easy. Then I pay what I want to her and be done with it. They never and I never discuss price. If you can't accept that, so be it, I don't care. Its worked for me for almost 14 years.Let's be clear about this:

You buy drinks for the lady in the bar. Go to the room with her without talking about condoms. Once in the room, without discussion, she volunteers to go without a condom. 100% of the time, right?

EverythingThai
11-21-23, 02:57
I definitely know. Because I drink Sangsom on ice and the blue moon times that I do buy a lady drink I make them get the same thing. Then when they are like it is too strong I taste it, then let them add soda if they want. Lady drink is not what the girl wants; lady drink is the drink you want to buy for the girl. Sure you can ask what she wants, but you have the final say so in what you are going to pay for.I am referring to the concept of the lady drink. Its for their time. What they drink, should not matter. All the bottles are watered down that the ladies drink from, not the customers. About your preference on buying drinks, that's your choice mate. If you water down a bottle of tequila 50%, the smell will not change and the tase is almost then same when you taste a single shot.

Banana Boi
11-21-23, 07:08
lady drink is the drink you want to buy for the girl. Sure you can ask what she wants, but you have the final say so in what you are going to pay for.Exactly! Never understood guys who spend tons of cash on shooters. Girl shoots them down and 1 minute later guy is dishing out more cash for another drink. Buy them the largest drink there is in the club, usually a bottle of beer.

Some b1tch waitresses will try to take the beer away when it's half full and the girl goes on stage. Yell at them if they try this. If they successfully take the beer away when you're distracted only pay for half a beer. Don't let these bars scam you guys.

Also, if a waitress points out the girl has no drink in front of her tell the waitress firmly you are in command on when girls get a drink. She won't bother you ever again. My girls are trained to wave the waitresses off before the waitress has time to push another drink.

Waitresses learn really fast who the suckers are in the bar and hover around those guys cause they know another drink is coming within minutes.

MGavin
11-21-23, 07:13
Hi.

Which bank can I open my bank account with on a tourist visa?

Every year I comes to Thailand atleast 4-5 times from Melbourne. It's going to be much easier for me.

Regards.

Gavin.


You are replying to me and quoting someone else LOL or maybe you are even replying to someone who was replying to me lol. Anyways, for the sake of this thread, you have lost the plot lol. Pattaya is not done and dusted, condo prices are going up. There are so many ladies here for high season now that there are plenty of them to go around and walking street is crazy busy on most nights. Soi 6 is steady during the week, but crazy on the weekends. Food prices are low and girls on soi 6 and TF don't go for 500 baht lol. Oh one more thing, the Repent girls want 1500-2000 ST no matter how good looking you think you are. If you walk up and down soi 6 enough times, one of the bars might offer you a job cleaning the glasses lol. Then you might earn enough to pay for your next ST after 2 weeks lol. last time I was there, I tipped the cleaner 1000 baht so tips are good. Yes, that's correct. With all due respect, you are far from being a Pattaya expert. far far far far far. But we all love you anyways Raj. Joob joob na.


Ok Raj, Here is something you might better understand. I hacked into your line and copied this message from your Thai bar girl girlfriend. Here it is. This is how Raj gets on in Pattaya.


Here is the message:

My Daling

I love you and I miss you too much. My friend in bar say you old man look same same monkey but I know you very hansum man. I have many problem I write you before that buffalo me sick. Now it die Fall down and dead in middle rice field. Bad fortune when it fall it fall on papa and break he leg in many place. Now he not work. Brother me make stretcher bamboo he take from roof house. Roof come down and rain in house. He take papa to hospital motorcycle. Have big accident when he come home hit police car. Police say brother me blame. Police say he mudt pay big money. not worry daling motorcycle you buy OK but Police car bad broken. Bad luck make Mama heart problem. Doctor say she must triple by-pass. I no understand but brother say you understand.

You know daling I only work in bar as cashier and not go with man I wait for you come back Pattaya but if you no help me I think I hab to go with man for pay bills.

Old people my village say you responsible. if you send money me before buy medicine sick buffalo then it no die, papa no break leg, house have roof, brother no ride into police car, Mama no have heart problem.

Please send me 200,000 baht for my bank. Papa fix 10,000 new roof 30,000, new police car 100,000, mama fix 50,000. I take off 2,000 baht for sell buffalo meat but me have to pay more hospital bill for 24 people have problem eat contaminated meat 12,000 baht. I not know money India but brother me say me it 1 THB = 2.26787 rupees mid-market rate close of trading yesterday. This means you send me 473,733.61 your rupees.

Let me give you some advice. Open up a Thai bank account as a tourist. Yes, I can arrange it for you on a tourist visa. Then transfer the money to your Thai account from India using Wise. You will get a better rate. lol

EverythingThai
11-21-23, 07:59
I definitely know. Because I drink Sangsom on ice and the blue moon times that I do buy a lady drink I make them get the same thing. Then when they are like it is too strong I taste it, then let them add soda if they want. Lady drink is not what the girl wants; lady drink is the drink you want to buy for the girl. Sure you can ask what she wants, but you have the final say so in what you are going to pay for.

I am agreeing to disagree with you and what you do with your money and how you engage with the ladies and what you insist on is your own business. However, I have 3 mates who own bars. One owns about 15 and one of them owns 6. They both told me they water down all the lady drink bottles. you will never be able to tell except your drunk will take much longer to happen.

Cheers mate.


Exactly! Never understood guys who spend tons of cash on shooters. Girl shoots them down and 1 minute later guy is dishing out more cash for another drink. Buy them the largest drink there is in the club, usually a bottle of beer.

Some b1tch waitresses will try to take the beer away when it's half full and the girl goes on stage. Yell at them if they try this. If they successfully take the beer away when you're distracted only pay for half a beer. Don't let these bars scam you guys.

Also, if a waitress points out the girl has no drink in front of her tell the waitress firmly you are in command on when girls get a drink. She won't bother you ever again. My girls are trained to wave the waitresses off before the waitress has time to push another drink.

Waitresses learn really fast who the suckers are in the bar and hover around those guys cause they know another drink is coming within minutes.

About this comment, if your ultimate goal is to spend as little money as possible in a bar and you want everyone to follow your lead, all the bars in Pattaya would close because they would make no money. Then, you would not have a place to be a CC in lol. Why can't you 2 just accept the fact that just because you spend a little bit of money in Pattaya buying drinks in the bar does not make you a sucker. This is an old school mentality. You both think and analyze things way too much to the point that for me, mongering would not be fun anymore. But, alas, its your money and your business. I respect both you guys though as you have been around for years and know the score. Just understand that not everyone is like you.

Paolo99
11-21-23, 10:12
I am referring to the concept of the lady drink. Its for their time. What they drink, should not matter.If it was true they wouldn't let us chose which drink we want to pay, they would just put a glass of water but that's not how it works.


If you water down a bottle of tequila 50%, the smell will not change and the tase is almost then same when you taste a single shot.That's why only suckers pay for Tequila shots.

First, it's finished in a second.

Secondly, you cannot know what's inside.

When you water down a Sangsom at 50% as you say, the color is not the same, the smell is softer too.

Raj Patela
11-21-23, 10:27
I don't get the Hate for Cheap SUB / Comm types and Make it Rain types.

Business needs them all.

ElMexicant
11-21-23, 10:31
Almost 60 days in, with 15 trips to Soi 6 and ZERO girls from Soi 6. I won't budge from my 1000-1500 max excluding room. Sure, there are lots of girls offering 1500, but none are up to my standards or to my personal taste. So looks like it will be a complete ZERO for Soi 6 this trip.

However, I was able to land FIVE new Walking Street Agogos girls (2 coyotes and 3 models) for 1500 baht, before work and on their days off. No drinks or barfine required, just a bit of charm and a little recognition. I call this the "long stay" discount. These gogo bar girls will just pass you around, from their friends to other friends, like an open wallet when they need a quick 1500. Mighty fine with me. Use me like that, I like. So much better than paying the tourist rates with drinks and barfine. It's like dining the 60 baht chicken kebab roll. If you know, you know. If you don't, enjoy your 100-120 baht price.

I was even able to snatch up 2 white girls working at Coco Agogo for 3000 for both, after their shifts. I did know both of them since COVID lock down when we all met at Treetown. The only hotspot open back then. Rapport is everything. Pattaya is definitely just like Pattaya High School, if you have been here long enough. It's like day and night from being a tourist. Everything is so much cheaper. I can walk down Walking Street and not even one tout will try to sell or pester me. Once in a while, I'll give the girls a little wink and all hell breaks loose. He gave us "attention" and they get happy. LOL.

EverythingThai
11-21-23, 10:44
If you want the lady drinks to be real they will make it real. If you don't care what they fill in a glass you pay 150 baht for is another story.

But we're not all like you, I make a point in checking all the drinks I pay for and always ask them to fill the Sangsom Cola with a lot of Sangsom.

It's a way for me to rate the bar too, if I see they refuse to do it, I know it's a sh*t bar and would never come back. But this is mostly happening around Buakhao, soi 6 bars have always gladly followed my requests.

It's even part of the fun when you see the girl's face each time she takes a sip of her drink accompanied with the comments she makes to the bartender.Wrong mate. The bar will give her the lady drink from a watered down bottle and you won't know the difference. The tequila for example still smells and tastes as before. Okay, this debate is boring now. Good luck with your lady drink policing mate. While you are arguing with servers and bar staff over this , I will be there buying shots, getting twerked on and arranging my Sts and LTs BBFS CIP. Later.

EverythingThai
11-21-23, 10:52
Okay gents. Here is your posting topic for another day. Go nuts. Let's hear it. Exotica on Soi 6, 1 year ago. And yes they are real and yes, they were spectacular. One older shot from when I scoped her out on Facebook. The rest are live action shots in the bar with me there. One of the best LT encounters I have ever had. Sadly, a Chinese punter snatched her up.

Raj Patela
11-21-23, 11:01
Okay gents. Here is your posting topic for another day. Go nuts. Let's hear it. Exotica on Soi 6, 1 year ago. And yes they are real and yes, they were spectacular. One older shot from when I scoped her out on Facebook. The rest are live action shots in the bar with me there. One of the best LT encounters I have ever had. Sadly, a Chinese punter snatched her up.Don't look REAL.

Paolo99
11-21-23, 11:02
While you are arguing with servers and bar staff over this , I will be there buying shots, getting twerked on and arranging my Sts and LTs BBFS CIP. Later.The more you post the more it's getting clear that you're not a customer.

Why would I care what other guys are doing while I'm enjoying my time in the bar, or at any given time of the day? You could even have a girl twerking on your the*ck while I'm eating or drinking my coffee at the restaurant, or while I'm sleeping at night. That's not like we are competing one another to get these girls, they are everywhere, so I really don't care what you or any other guy is doing mate.

You say I'm arguing with the staff, I'm not. I just tell the girl to put lots of Sangsom inside and not just pretend the glass is filled with alcohol. If the girl doesn't want to do it I just move to another place, there is no arguing in there.

As long as I'm concerned you could spend 25 K or 50 K just on drinks in the bars that I wouldn't care, but I think you're doing none.

Explorer8939
11-21-23, 11:24
I am agreeing to disagree with you and what you do with your money and how you engage with the ladies and what you insist on is your own business. However, I have 3 mates who own bars. One owns about 15 and one of them owns 6. They both told me they water down all the lady drink bottles. you will never be able to tell except your drunk will take much longer to happen.My two cents:

I have no problem with a guy buying a lot of drinks for a lady. I don't complain about guys who ring the bell, although I would never do it.

My complaint is about ladies who ask customers to buy drinks for other ladies. Just say no. Or say you will buy for the other lady, but not for your lady.

Paolo99
11-21-23, 11:51
You both think and analyze things way too much to the point that for me, mongering would not be fun anymore.Yeah, let's splash 25 K on drinks alone each time we find a girl in a bar, otherwise it's not fun.

Mr Enternational
11-21-23, 12:04
I have 3 mates who own bars. One owns about 15 and one of them owns 6. They both told me they water down all the lady drink bottles. you will never be able to tell except your drunk will take much longer to happen.Amazing how you and your buddies think I do not know how not watered down Sangsom tastes.

EverythingThai
11-21-23, 13:44
The more you post the more it's getting clear that you're not a customer.

Why would I care what other guys are doing while I'm enjoying my time in the bar, or at any given time of the day? You could even have a girl twerking on your the*ck while I'm eating or drinking my coffee at the restaurant, or while I'm sleeping at night. That's not like we are competing one another to get these girls, they are everywhere, so I really don't care what you or any other guy is doing mate.

You say I'm arguing with the staff, I'm not. I just tell the girl to put lots of Sangsom inside and not just pretend the glass is filled with alcohol. If the girl doesn't want to do it I just move to another place, there is no arguing in there.

As long as I'm concerned you could spend 25 K or 50 K just on drinks in the bars that I wouldn't care, but I think you're doing none.That's up to you mate. Think what you want. Next.

EverythingThai
11-21-23, 13:46
Hi.

Which bank can I open my bank account with on a tourist visa?

Every year I comes to Thailand atleast 4-5 times from Melbourne. It's going to be much easier for me.

Regards.

Gavin.Dm me mate. Oh wait you can't as you are a regular member. Also, I can't advertise here in the forum. I don't know how to tell you the answer then. sorry. How about you go to You Tube and search open Thai Bank account on a tourist visa. I think you will find an answer there.

EverythingThai
11-21-23, 13:48
Let's be clear about this:

You buy drinks for the lady in the bar. Go to the room with her without talking about condoms. Once in the room, without discussion, she volunteers to go without a condom. 100% of the time, right?She did not volunteer mate. It just happened.

EverythingThai
11-21-23, 13:51
The more you post the more it's getting clear that you're not a customer.

Why would I care what other guys are doing while I'm enjoying my time in the bar, or at any given time of the day? You could even have a girl twerking on your the*ck while I'm eating or drinking my coffee at the restaurant, or while I'm sleeping at night. That's not like we are competing one another to get these girls, they are everywhere, so I really don't care what you or any other guy is doing mate.

You say I'm arguing with the staff, I'm not. I just tell the girl to put lots of Sangsom inside and not just pretend the glass is filled with alcohol. If the girl doesn't want to do it I just move to another place, there is no arguing in there.

As long as I'm concerned you could spend 25 K or 50 K just on drinks in the bars that I wouldn't care, but I think you're doing none.Oh I am 100% a customer In Pattaya and I am not the only one that roles this way. I don't care what you do and how you spend your money. Up to you mate. Just let me post my experience and if you don't like it. Simple. Hit ignore and don't comment. Done!

SubCmdr
11-21-23, 14:09
I just do not know too much since I am a "new poster" and "tourist" in fact I'm not sure if I should even bother to share my actual experiences with girls. As everyone posting here already knows everything there is to know about Pattaya. Certain to have some one say I paid to much or I am lying on my dick. Spend more than someone can afford you are lying. Spend less than someone else's routine price point, you are lying. What gives?

The Experience:

Early morning 9 AM walking along Soi Buakaow (did I spell that right, if I did not I am sure someone will correct me. So, I am a bit surprised with there was a lady in a uniform out front of a shop asking if I wanted a massage. I declined as I was looking for a specific business that I had used before and wanted to use their services again.

I walked and found the business and it was closed. So, I decided to kill some time and walked back to the "shop". The lady was not there but there was another lady that asked if I wanted a massage. I agreed and she asked oil massage? I said yes.

My Observations:

When I see a "shop" that is enclosed that tells me that they are offering what my man ThiaGoodTimes describes as extras. True to form, this "shop" had rectangular cubicles with full drywall dividers and were curtained off. They did have two recliners available for foot massages. A very low amount. That is called a "clue" in my book.

The Experience:

She showed me to my room and offered me a shower. I accepted and showered up and dried off. After in the room she gave me a very good upper body massage focusing on my neck and shoulders where I had pain. Kind of lack luster massage of my buttocks and thighs and then called on me to flip. On the flip side the leg massage focused heavy on my groin area with a lot of incidental touching of my Big Black Dick.


What is the reference to the color and size of your dick for? Nobody is interested about that here, this is not a gay forum.I will write however the Administrator allows me to write. I am simply trying to give an idea of what the ladies that I hire to be my prostitutes. If you find it offensive my ISG Brother you are free to put me on ignore.

But, I wonder why it is ok to refer to BBFS or BBFSCIM which is about the behavior the dicks of my fellow ISG Brothers, yet you have a problem if I say: "I penetrated deep into her secondary and flooded the zone therefore scoring yet another touchdown".

I was waiting for my lower body massage when the offer came: 1000 Hand Job. I declined saying I wanted her to use her mouth to make me cum. The price she gave me was 1500 Blow Job. Shit, with the 300 oil massage charge would be above my price point (make a note of the usage of the phrase Raj Raj) with inferior services provided. I declined and decided to cut my losses and declined.

Then came her counter offer: 500 Hand Job. I countered with 1000 Blow Job and she declined. Stalemate. She was a good sales man as throughout the negotiations she was lightly massaging my BBD. I agreed to the hand job using the reasoning in my head that I was at least still below my 1000 price point and would get to blow my splooge. She went to work but after a minute or two she had the final upsell, 200 for her to undress and touch everywhere. I declined.

She gave me a good handjob that led to a remarkably power orgasm on my part. Cleaned up the mess I made and offered me another shower. Showered up again and return to the room. I only had 1000 and she thanked me and brought me change. Check the room to make sure I had all my stuff and sent me on my way.

Epilogue

Felt the price was to high for the sexual services I got. But, the service itself and the lady was a sweetheart. Given the hospitality that she showed me I plan to visit again, either to repeat her or one of her co-workers. They were all cute and I just like the randomness of strange encounters.

This is why I prefer Thai Friendly girls: 1000ST. I routinely get BBBJ, CFS, BBBJ and sometimes they even swallow. Then can go to a legitimate massage shop and get my (foot, Thai, Oil) massage for 100 - 500/ HR depending upon the location. For me I think it is a better deal. But then again I am cash poor and time rich.

May the pussy be with you, always!

EverythingThai
11-21-23, 14:15
This place is a fairly new gents club, just open a few months. When you walk in, there is a big circular bar in the middle with stools all around. At the back there is a big pool table. All around the outside of the bar are booths to sit and drink with the girls. However, there is only 1 curtained off area not sure what Steven's logic is with this as in the other bars, like Fate, Maggie Mays, and camel Toe, every booth is curtained off for naughty fun. I went in to meet some mates over from the UK for holiday. We started drinking at the bar and invited a few of the ladies to drink with us. I chose these two in the attached photos. The bar has a great sound system and the manager is very cool. He allowed me to play house DJ for a while. Then me, my two ladies and the rest of the group, ended up behind the curtains. The girls then started their strip tease show. Then both of these two took out my little friend and did a duo BBBJ. The other guys got similar treatments from their chosen girls. Great fun. After, I ended up with Pop, the darker skinned girl posing on the table. The other one I had taken previously so I wanted a new one. We did short time in the room upstairs. The room was 400 Baht. They are basic rooms but new. Pop was great fun on the bed. Full GFE. Afterwards, ended up at Buzzin Lounge and the story is posted already below somewhere. This place is my go to place as it is vey near my condo and much more fun the Kineree. Hope you guys enjoyed the story.

Paolo99
11-21-23, 14:25
Just let me post my experience and if you don't like it. Simple. Hit ignore and don't comment. Done!I'm not commenting on your experiences man, I comment on what you present as facts.

And what you wrote in that post you can apply it for yourself too, mr Bingo.

EverythingThai
11-21-23, 14:37
If you want to experience a great go go away from the tourist stricken walking street, this is the place to go. Cozy little go go on the corner of Soi Bukao and Soi Boomerang. The talent in this place is really great. I always sit in the VIP seating to the left as you walk in, in the far corner. They have great VIP drink and food packages starting at 4000 Baht up to 6995 baht. You get two bottles, one whisky and one wine or champaign and some fruit snacks and nuts. Last time I was there, I drank with 3 ladies. We all shared the set I bought and I supplemented the girls with tequila shots to keep them happy. This booth has curtains and we closed those and what happened next can only be described as a full on orgy of action. The bill was 25 K Baht and well with every baht. They gave me a free shirt and a gold VIP card, which gives me 20% off by bin on all future visits.

If you are not into the VIP areas, there is seating all around the stage in like a narrow corridor style. They have shows similar to Angel Witch in Nana Plaza which are quite good. They even have two short time rooms on the premises. This place is cheaper than a walking street go go, but more expensive than most of the bars in the areas of Soi Bukao, Tree town, and Soi Pothole. A nice change up from the walking street go go bars. I have not been to Pin up or any other walking street go go for 2 years now. I have a lot more fun in the gents clubs and bars in and around the Soi Bukao area and Pratumnak area. Why? Because it's more relaxed. If you want to be a baller, you get a lot more value for your money. If you want to be a cheap charlie, it's much easier to be one. As for Soi 6, I don't go often unless I see a girl on Facebook that really catches my eye. Then I will go to the bar and spoil her with Tequila shots and then bar fine her LT.Sorry guys for my rudeness. Here are a few shots from this night out a Play Girlz go go. This is Cindy and Honey. Ex Maggie Mays girls. Both are related. They are real 1st cousins believe it or not. Sorry I can't upload any nudes. Those pics involve
me holding my iPhone while they are giving me a BBBJ. The third lady was camera shy. She was afraid of her American boyfriend seeing them if I posted.

Ok boys that's it for today. The GF has gone to BKK. I am off to Soi 6 now. I will leave you all to your posts about how to save money and how to avoid buying watered down lady drinks. I'm off.

Betong
11-21-23, 15:09
I will leave you all to your posts about how to save money and how to avoid buying watered down lady drinks.Thanks, I prefer your posts. And good info on Cat Flaps -- I've been meaning to go there but it's just a bit inconvenient from north Pattaya where I usually stay. A good gentlemen's club can pretty much be the perfect Pattaya experience.

Explorer8939
11-21-23, 15:58
Sorry guys for my rudeness. Here are a few shots from this night out a Play Girlz go go. This is Cindy and Honey. Ex Maggie Mays girls. Both are related. They are real 1st cousins believe it or not. Sorry I can't upload any nudes. Those pics involve
me holding my iPhone while they are giving me a BBBJ. The third lady was camera shy. She was afraid of her American boyfriend seeing them if I posted.

Ok boys that's it for today. The GF has gone to BKK. I am off to Soi 6 now. I will leave you all to your posts about how to save money and how to avoid buying watered down lady drinks. I'm off.Cindy and Honey are sisters. They do have a cousin working in Maggie Mays.

Do you know where they are from?

They both have Farang boyfriend sponsors, so they are probably camera shy.

Raj Patela
11-21-23, 16:24
OK guys. Real assessment of how HOT Everything's girls are.

Come on guys, don't be Shy. For this exercise Price is irrelevant.

EihTooms
11-21-23, 16:25
Let's be clear about this:

You buy drinks for the lady in the bar. Go to the room with her without talking about condoms. Once in the room, without discussion, she volunteers to go without a condom. 100% of the time, right?

She did not volunteer mate. It just happened.May I ask, why do you always feel it necessary to screen for ThaiFriendly girls' willingness to provide BBFS+CIP for you upfront but never need to do that with the girls you take from the GoGo Bars, Gentlemen's Clubs, Soi 6 and so on? Aren't the TF girls encountering the same man in the room and in bed as do the Bar Girls?

BTW, I agree with your reference to BBFS+CIP as "full GFE" and would have used it here as well but the "GFE" term is bandied about so much here, on Escort Websites, Happy Ending MP Shop menus, etc without it really meaning anything at all it is probably too soon for me to leave it so open to individual interpretation. I have been using the term "Real Sex" for BBFS+CIP off and on but that didn't make too many posting members here happy either. LOL.

SubCmdr
11-21-23, 17:41
Anyone that has not posted any pictures has no standing to say anything about the pictures anyone else has posted.

Banana Boi
11-21-23, 20:13
Okay gents. Here is your posting topic for another day. Go nuts. Let's hear it. Exotica on Soi 6, 1 year ago. And yes they are real and yes, they were spectacular. One older shot from when I scoped her out on Facebook. The rest are live action shots in the bar with me there. One of the best LT encounters I have ever had. Sadly, a Chinese punter snatched her up.Cute girl. I'd go with her.

the fact that just because you spend a little bit of money in Pattaya buying drinks in the bar does not make you a sucker. This is an old school mentality. You both think and analyze things way too much to the point that for me, mongering would not be fun anymore. But, alas, its your money and your business. I respect both you guys though as you have been around for years and know the score. Just understand that not everyone is like you.I think you totally misunderstood me. I am by far cheap when it comes to buying LD's so that's how gogo bars make money on me. I just don't buy shooters! I run up 7000-10,000 baht bar tabs on only lady drinks way more than I'd like to admit. There were certain gogo bars where when I walked in up to 5 girls depending who wasn't already barfined would be with me in a heartbeat. Sapphire (back in 2015-6), Fahrenheit (up til 2017), Ninja (now gone), Glass House (now gone in my mind), Nui 2 (now gone), Beach Club (now gone), Infinity (now gone), Kaos (now gone), Sensations (now not drink worthy), and most recently Palace, just to name a few.

I don't pay BF unless I'm using the premises for sex (ie. BJ bar, GC, massage, and Soi 6). BF are so nominal at those places anyways. There is no need to pay up to 2000 baht to BF gogo girls if you live in Pattaya. Only the very rare exception will not meet you outside of work hours to make a few extra bucks.

Banana Boi
11-21-23, 20:50
OK guys. Real assessment of how HOT Everything's girls are.

Come on guys, don't be Shy. For this exercise Price is irrelevant.Where's Rob Jones when you need him!

If only there was a way to easily search my posts which have attachments. I've posted some of my girls on here over the years.

Explorer8939
11-21-23, 23:43
OK guys. Real assessment of how HOT Everything's girls are.

Come on guys, don't be Shy. For this exercise Price is irrelevant.Let's just say that Cindy and Honey are very popular.

I would never do them without a condom. If they attempted to do so, I would get them off me ASAP.

MGavin
11-22-23, 07:39
Hi Guys.

I spend atleast 3-4 months in my 5 visits every year in Pattaya and I enjoy gents club more than gogo or Soi 6.

So here are my top 5 gents club in no order and 3 worst gents club:

Top 5 :

1. Club Fate.

2. Amsterdam.

3. Heaven Above.

4. Kinnaree.

5. Cozy beach club.

Worst 3.

1. Venom.

2. Escape.

3. High rollers. Very very pushy for drinks.

Let me know what are your favourite.

Regards.

Gavin.

Dieass
11-22-23, 09:29
Go to Soi 6. Short time boom boom. 1/2/3 at a time. Don't forget to haggle.


Visiting Thailand after 15 years. Not sure hows the scene would be compared to 15 Y back. But I am excited.

This time will be in pattaya, spending 3-4 days.

I can't take girl in my hotel (coming with a group for some work).

I will be mostly looking for soapy massage + FS. In bkk, I enjoyed la-belle kind of setup during previous visit. Will explore similar in pattaya this time. Any recommendations would be helpful.

Is there option of love hotel kind of setup. ? Few hours stay kind?

Thanks.

EverythingThai
11-22-23, 14:25
May I ask, why do you always feel it necessary to screen for ThaiFriendly girls' willingness to provide BBFS+CIP for you upfront but never need to do that with the girls you take from the GoGo Bars, Gentlemen's Clubs, Soi 6 and so on? Aren't the TF girls encountering the same man in the room and in bed as do the Bar Girls?.The difference is huge. With a Thai friendly girl, Its a quick chat, meet and fuck. No chance to build any kind of rapport. She does not know anything about me nor do I know anything about her. Therefore, I need to clear all the conditions. Then we meet, do the deed and it's finished.

With a girl from a bar, G cub, go go bar, or beer bar, I spend time with her and we build a rapport. She sees I am not a cheap charlie. She sees I treat her well. She gets drunk or tipsy. Then when its time to fuck, it seems like we are not strangers and she is more comfortable, plus the drinks make both our inhibitions much lower. Hope this helps.

EverythingThai
11-22-23, 14:32
Cindy and Honey are sisters. They do have a cousin working in Maggie Mays.

Do you know where they are from?

They both have Farang boyfriend sponsors, so they are probably camera shy.You think you know they are real sisters because that's what they tell you. Do you think they would do these things to each other if that was the case? Here is the score. Cindy and Honey are cousins. Another cousin Plai still works at Maggie Mays, she is a ladyboy. Poppy there other cousin used to work at Maggie Mays. She is back home now. All of them are from Laos. They are not Thai. Now for another big reveal:

Honey has a farang boyfriend who is on and off again.

Cindy is married in Laos to a Lao guy and fucks for money inThailand.

Poppy is also married in Laos to a Loas guy and used to fuck for money in Thailand.


Let's just say that Cindy and Honey are very popular.

I would never do them without a condom. If they attempted to do so, I would get them off me ASAP.

Now, I have fucked Cindy and Poppy multiple times and never ever got sick or infected with anything. I only got blow jobs from Honey in group action behind the curtains in Maggie Mays and Play Girlz.

EverythingThai
11-22-23, 14:36
I'm not commenting on your experiences man, I comment on what you present as facts.

And what you wrote in that post you can apply it for yourself too, mr Bingo.And my facts are based on real experiences from being on the ground for almost 14 years. I am not a tourist like you.

EverythingThai
11-22-23, 14:38
I just do not know too much since I am a "new poster" and "tourist" in fact I'm not sure if I should even bother to share my actual experiences with girls. As everyone posting here already knows everything there is to know about Pattaya. Certain to have some one say I paid to much or I am lying on my dick. Spend more than someone can afford you are lying. Spend less than someone else's routine price point, you are lying. What gives?A new poster with 1800 posts LOL. Anyways love your post mate. Keep it up.

Mr Enternational
11-22-23, 14:40
The difference is huge. With a Thai friendly girl, Its a quick chat, meet and fuck. No chance to build any kind of rapport. She does not know anything about me nor do I know anything about her. Therefore, I need to clear all the conditions. Then we meet, do the deed and it's finished.

With a girl from a bar, G cub, go gp, beer bar, I spend time with her and we build a rapport. She sees I am not a cheap charlie. She sees I treat her well. She get drunk or tipsy. Then when its time to fuck, it seems like we are not strangers and she is more comfortable, plus the drinks make both out inhibitions much lower. Hope this helps.If you feel it is the getting her drunk and showing her that you are not a Cheap Charlie that is getting you results, you could do the same with the Thai Friendly chick. You could take her out to a bar and get her drunk so you do not feel like strangers too. Seems the only difference is that you choose to handle each differently. Even if you did not show the bar girl that you are not a cheap charlie and get drunk with her, then you will probably get the same results, but I understand you have your personal rituals for each situation.

Paolo99
11-22-23, 14:46
And my facts are based on real experiences from being on the ground for almost 14 years. I am not a tourist like you.Obviously others are rejecting your facts too.

Living there for 14 years doesn't make you an expert on all Pattaya, and specially not on the bar scenery.

EverythingThai
11-22-23, 15:19
I had my share of good times in these three Nick Dean bars. Just after reopening from covid, me and a bunch of local expats would meet up there. The atmosphere is mostly local expats and tourists that watch his You Tube. We would often go here first, drink and bar fine girls, and then take them to Pin Up on walking street. I will save Pin Up for another post. Anyways, during this time, I would normally bar fine Sea AKA, Melons for obvious reasons. It was in her early days when she was not tainted LOL. Always great fun and those knockers, they are spectacular and they are real. After sometime, I had to let her go because she was getting too clingy. She ended up at wicked on Soi 6 for a ten day contract but now she has had enough of Pattaya and left back to Rayong. Until she needs money again. She still messages me asking to meet but I am done with that now. Living in Pattaya sometimes is not convenient as everyone knows everyone. I like my privacy. One more point, Nick is a music nazi. He won't even take requests. Since that time he refused, I paid my 10,000 baht bar tab and left for Maggie Mays. Since then, I have not been back. Don't know if he has relaxed with the music or not.

A photo of Sea for your viewing pleasure.

Explorer8939
11-22-23, 15:23
You think you know they are real sisters because that's what they tell you. Do you think they would do these things to each other if that was the case? Here is the score. Cindy and Honey are cousins. Another cousin Plai still works at Maggie Mays, she is a ladyboy. Poppy there other cousin used to work at Maggie Mays. She is back home now. All of them are from Laos. They are not Thai. Now for another big reveal:

Honey has a farang boyfriend who is on and off again.

Cindy is married in Laos to a Lao guy and fucks for money inThailand.

Poppy is also married in Laos to a Loas guy and used to fuck for money in Thailand.



Now, I have fucked Cindy and Poppy multiple times and never ever got sick or infected with anything. I only got blow jobs from Honey in group action behind the curtains in Maggie Mays and Play Girlz.If Cindy and Honey are not sisters, that would be rather shocking. But possible. Cindy was probably married in Laos, but was living in Bangkok with a Thai guy during Covid. Come to think of it, Honey was probably married in Laos before she followed Cindy to Thailand.

Poppy kind of got married off to a Chinese guy in Laos. Last I heard, she was exported to China.

AFAIK, Cindy still works in Playgirlz, no idea if Honey's boyfriend has taken her off the market.

EverythingThai
11-22-23, 15:38
Sometimes, when my GF is away, I will do what I call a 10 K date. I will find a hot girl and pay her 10 K LT. This means dinner at Horizon at the Hilton and then back to my place. Rent a GF for the night and be ensured of a 100% GFE experience. I have not done this since covid, but I often did it before covid as well. I think it's time to get this going again. Here is Chalita, my last 10 K date. Two photos I took while we were at Horizon and the rest are random pics from the bikini boat cruises by buddy and I used to go on during covid. They were a blast. Many hot girls would attend. Enjoy Chalita boys. Last I heard she was at Queen Club in LK metro.

EverythingThai
11-22-23, 15:55
We have an Angry BBC in the HOUSE. Chill. We not out to get you.Have anything useful to contribute other than this? Can we get some trip reports? Maybe more than just you telling a story in broken English of how you walked up and down soi 6 trying to get the repent girls' attention. Come on man. An experienced monger as yourself must have some good reports. Let's go bud!

Meanwhile, here is a photo of a girl that I will highlight in my next post. This is Pu. Formally of Club 4 which has since been closed down and reopened under a different name. The owner Stan also took over G spot in Soi Pothole. They live stream still every night. Stay tuned for a quite the crazy story. This photo was how we began our night.

EverythingThai
11-22-23, 15:58
If Cindy and Honey are not sisters, that would be rather shocking. But possible. Cindy was probably married in Laos, but was living in Bangkok with a Thai guy during Covid. Come to think of it, Honey was probably married in Laos before she followed Cindy to Thailand.

Poppy kind of got married off to a Chinese guy in Laos. Last I heard, she was exported to China.

AFAIK, Cindy still works in Playgirlz, no idea if Honey's boyfriend has taken her off the market.Poppy is married to a Laos guy, not Chinese, he may be half Chinese but he is a Loa Citizen. I have their photos together. They run a marriage entertainment business in Laos where they sing and play music at weddings. Cindy has a Loas husband and fucks everyone in Pattaya and yes, she is still at Play Girlz. Honey was married to a Loas guy and has a kid with him, but they are separated. Like I said before, she is now on and off again with an American guy while still working on and off in Play Girlz with Cindy. Plai, well let's just say she is everywhere.

Here is a photo of one of my crazy nights in Maggie Mays. I have cut myself out for obvious reasons. 3 cousins together. That night I took Poppy. I know all the stories of them. They are hustlers, but they are great fucks. However, for some reason, I never got around too fucking Honey. Let's see.

By the way, the first time I met Poppy was on her first day as a bar girl in Maggie Mays. I got really drunk at the bar with the intention of fucking Cindy. Cindy never showed up for work that day. I was left with Honey, Poppy, or another girl. I chose Poopy and took her behind the curtain. 200 baht for that plus my fee for here. She was tight as fuck.Then, something crazy happened after that. All I remember is starting to fuck Poppy, then everything went fuzzy. The next thing I knew, I was getting dressed behind the curtain. Poppy left to freshen up. She came down and went to the bar to drink. I waited to pay my bin with Annie. While waiting, a curvy Cambodian girl comes over and asks if I want a ride home. I said sure. she takes me home. next thing I remember, I am on my sofa with her and we are fucking. I end up fucking her in the ass, which I never do. I know, so crazy. After I finish, we hit the bed. The next morning, she fucks me again. I remember cumming so hard inside her pussy, I was trembling and so was she. Her name was Sophia. Great night and great memory.

EverythingThai
11-22-23, 16:17
Obviously others are rejecting your facts too.

Living there for 14 years doesn't make you an expert on all Pattaya, and specially not on the bar scenery.Yawn. Let, me know when you have some content to post. Cheers mate. I look forward to your next report on the ground from Pattaya.

EverythingThai
11-22-23, 16:19
If you feel it is the getting her drunk and showing her that you are not a Cheap Charlie that is getting you results, you could do the same with the Thai Friendly chick. You could take her out to a bar and get her drunk so you do not feel like strangers too. Seems the only difference is that you choose to handle each differently. Even if you did not show the bar girl that you are not a cheap charlie and get drunk with her, then you will probably get the same results, but I understand you have your personal rituals for each situation.I guess the reason I don't take the TF girls out is because I only want them for delivery LOL. That means I am too lazy to go out.

EverythingThai
11-22-23, 16:23
Hi Guys.

I spend atleast 3-4 months in my 5 visits every year in Pattaya and I enjoy gents club more than gogo or Soi 6.

So here are my top 5 gents club in no order and 3 worst gents club:

Top 5 :

1. Club Fate.

2. Amsterdam.

3. Heaven Above.

4. Kinnaree.

5. Cozy beach club.

Worst 3.

1. Venom.

2. Escape.

3. High rollers. Very very pushy for drinks.

Let me know what are your favourite.

Regards.

Gavin.Top 5.

1. Maggie Mays.

2. Club Fate.

3. Buzzin Lounge.

4. CatFlaps.

5. Kineree.

Worst.

1. High Rollers.

2. Pussy Galore **Now they hire ladyboys that's why.

3. M Club.

Explorer8939
11-22-23, 16:27
Poppy is married to a Laos guy, not Chinese, he may be half Chinese but he is a Loa Citizen. I have their photos together. They run a marriage entertainment business in Laos where they sing and play music at weddings. Cindy has a Loas husband and fucks everyone in Pattaya and yes, she is still at Play Girlz. Honey was married to a Loas guy and has a kid with him, but they are separated. Like I said before, she is now on and off again with an American guy while still working on and off in Play Girlz with Cindy. Plai, well let's just say she is everywhere.

Here is a photo of one of my crazy nights in Maggie Mays. I have cut myself out for obvious reasons. 3 cousins together. That night I took Poppy. I know all the stories of them. They are hustlers, but they are great fucks. However, for some reason, I never got around too fucking Honey. Let's see.

By the way, the first time I met Poppy was on her first day as a bar girl in Maggie Mays. I got really drunk at the bar with the intention of fucking Cindy. Cindy never showed up for work that day. I was left with Honey, Poppy, or another girl. I chose Poopy and took her behind the curtain. 200 baht for that plus my fee for here. She was tight as fuck.Then, something crazy happened after that. All I remember is starting to fuck Poppy, then everything went fuzzy. The next thing I knew, I was getting dressed behind the curtain. Poppy left to freshen up. She came down and went to the bar to drink. I waited to pay my bin with Annie. While waiting, a curvy Cambodian girl comes over and asks if I want a ride home. I said sure. she takes me home. next thing I remember, I am on my sofa with her and we are fucking. I end up fucking her in the ass, which I never do. I know, so crazy. After I finish, we hit the bed. The next morning, she fucks me again. I remember cumming so hard inside her pussy, I was trembling and so was she. Her name was Sophia. Great night and great memory.Yes, I forgot about Honey's daughter from her husband in Laos.

Sophea is currently with child in Cambodia.

Of course, Honey and Sophea are silicon enhanced, courtesy of a sponsor. For every silicon enhanced bargirl in Pattaya, there is a lonely guy who thought she was his one true love.

EihTooms
11-22-23, 16:58
The difference is huge. With a Thai friendly girl, Its a quick chat, meet and fuck. No chance to build any kind of rapport. She does not know anything about me nor do I know anything about her. Therefore, I need to clear all the conditions. Then we meet, do the deed and it's finished.

With a girl from a bar, G cub, go go bar, or beer bar, I spend time with her and we build a rapport. She sees I am not a cheap charlie. She sees I treat her well. She gets drunk or tipsy. Then when its time to fuck, it seems like we are not strangers and she is more comfortable, plus the drinks make both our inhibitions much lower. Hope this helps.Ah, I see. Thanks for the reply.

That is what I do with both TF girls and the girls I meet in GoGo Bars, Beer Bars, etc. That is, I clear all the conditions and screen for their willingness to engage in BBFS+CIP with me upfront and fairly early. See, I'm not much of a drinker and find sitting in bars buying a lot of drinks for myself and / or the girl (s) to be quite boring these days. But in the bars I don't hit them up for an upfront agreement to engage in BBFS+CIP without having spent at least some time with them to establish chemistry, making sure the girl is more than into touching, caressing and kissing me, begging me to pay the barfine and take her kind of thing. In Bangkok that has worked out pretty well for me over the years. And a couple of very useful Mamasans who bring suitable girls to me right away for a minimal tip also has its advantages.

However, clearly in Pattaya I apparently need to spend a lot more money and the girls and I need to toss back a lot more drinks than I have ever wanted to do in order to get that same result with Pattaya bargirls. Ugh. The few I might find attractive enough to want to fuck, of course.

EverythingThai
11-22-23, 17:03
OK guys. Real assessment of how HOT Everything's girls are.

Come on guys, don't be Shy. For this exercise Price is irrelevant.Price is always not relevant when considering a Pattaya girl's hotness. A 5/10 does not turn into a 10/10 if she only asks 500 baht and a 10/10 does not turn into a 5/10 if she asks 5000 Baht.

EverythingThai
11-22-23, 18:19
Ah, I see. Thanks for the reply.

That is what I do with both TF girls and the girls I meet in GoGo Bars, Beer Bars, etc. That is, I clear all the conditions and screen for their willingness to engage in BBFS+CIP with me upfront and fairly early. See, I'm not much of a drinker and find sitting in bars buying a lot of drinks for myself and / or the girl (s) to be quite boring these days. But in the bars I don't hit them up for an upfront agreement to engage in BBFS+CIP without having spent at least some time with them to establish chemistry, making sure the girl is more than into touching, caressing and kissing me, begging me to pay the barfine and take her kind of thing. In Bangkok that has worked out pretty well for me over the years. And a couple of very useful Mamasans who bring suitable girls to me right away for a minimal tip also has its advantages.

However, clearly in Pattaya I apparently need to spend a lot more money and the girls and I need to toss back a lot more drinks than I have ever wanted to do in order to get that same result with Pattaya bargirls. Ugh. The few I might find attractive enough to want to fuck, of course.Just to give you an idea on pricing, the cheapest I have ever paid for BBFS CIP in Pattaya was 1300 Baht and the most was 20,000 Baht. ST-LT-PSE with 3 pops and a video to keep as a memento. I think you can easily do what I do in bars.

EihTooms
11-22-23, 21:25
Just to give you an idea on pricing, the cheapest I have ever paid for BBFS CIP in Pattaya was 1300 Baht and the most was 20,000 Baht. ST-LT-PSE with 3 pops and a video to keep as a memento. I think you can easily do what I do in bars.I don't recall seeing a bargirl in Pattaya I would pay as much as 5,000 baht to have BBFS+CIP with over the years. Maybe 3,000 tops once or twice. But I have many times bought 2-3 Ladydrinks before experiencing what I judge to be plenty of chemistry by Bangkok standards to hit up your average Pattaya bargirl for a BBFS+CIP session and assume the answer would probably be a Yes. Well, it would likely be a Yes from a bargirl of at least that level of attractivehess in Bangkok, that is.

And, as you do with ThaiFriendly girls, if the answer is No I thank them for their time and move on.

Uh, let's just say that for the past several years all but one Pattaya bargirl that I have been interested in fucking at all has been perfectly fine with me moving on with plenty of the kind of money you cite safely unspent in my pocket. LOL. Actually, that one several years back barely made the cut as someone attractive enough for me to want to fuck at what I would rate as a 6 by bargirl standards. I suppose I have not been inspired to sit for another couple of hours and buy dozens more Ladydrinks just to find out if that is the missing ingredient for getting BBFS+CIP without discussion in the room later. Not so far anyway.

Oh well. Luckily for me I live and have had much better results in Bangkok and only hop down to Pattaya for the occasional change of scenery or when someone else I know wants to hang out there for 2-3 days. Maybe I will try TF down there for the first time on my next visit.

Raj Patela
11-23-23, 01:49
Stickman, this week.

At the other end of the spectrum, some are saying that the most attractive agency girls command 30,000 baht for a 10-day contract in the best Walking Street gogo bars. That's 3,000 baht (or around $US 85) in their pocket for a 5- or 6-hour shift – which is decent money in Thailand. It's great to see the ladies earning good money while at the same time this is going to skew things even more (the girls will be ultra-aggressive to get lady drinks as the more they are paid, the higher their drink targets are). And when a bar is paying an agency big money for girls, they put up barfine rates to recover the money. In one unnamed Walking Street gogo bar, Friday barfines for a select few ladies is 3,500 baht and the girls have agreed that the short-time fee is 5,000 baht.

Notice he uses the phrase Most Attractive Agency Girls-Few and Far between these are.

Explorer8939
11-23-23, 05:05
Just to give you an idea on pricing, the cheapest I have ever paid for BBFS CIP in Pattaya was 1300 Baht and the most was 20,000 Baht. ST-LT-PSE with 3 pops and a video to keep as a memento. I think you can easily do what I do in bars.It's 2000 baht for me under most circumstances, for a few hours.

This includes ladies in your photos.

But I don't barfine gogo ladies, they come to my place during the day.

I would pay 3,000 in Phuket, more expensive there.

But I am talking about Low Season. During the worst of High Season, I go to Brazil, and take a Thai lady (1000 baht per day).

EverythingThai
11-23-23, 06:38
I see you found DaDa from Maggie Mays.

Honey may not be working in Playgirlz, but maybe she will go back.I did more than just find the the LOL.

ElMexicant
11-23-23, 11:06
The tiny McDonald's on Walking Street towards (Bali Hai) and the back near Soi 16/ Russian / Indian area is gone. That McDonald's has outlasted so many bars and clubs in that area including Mixx. Goodbye old friend, Ronny.

Explorer8939
11-23-23, 11:23
I did more than just find the the LOL.Let's see if you can say what is unusual about her.

Turgid
11-23-23, 16:14
Just to give you an idea on pricing, the cheapest I have ever paid for BBFS CIP in Pattaya was 1300 Baht and the most was 20,000 Baht. ST-LT-PSE with 3 pops and a video to keep as a memento. I think you can easily do what I do in bars.Not everyone would like to spare US $550 for 1 romp in the sack. I never have, not even in the good old USA.

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11-23-23, 16:43
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SubCmdr
11-23-23, 18:49
Top 5.

1. Maggie Mays.

2. Club Fate.

3. Buzzin Lounge.

4. CatFlaps.

5. Kineree.

Worst.

1. High Rollers.

2. Pussy Galore **Now they hire ladyboys that's why.

3. M Club.I have only been to Kinerre.

The Set Up:

The first girl I ever fucked in Pattaya was there. It was my first full day in Pattaya. 1500 was the agreement for her; 300 for the room; 1100 Bar Bill.

The Experience:

Ho Experience "he": Straight Fucking / No kissin; Sucked me dick was good at it. Rode, more sucking, missionary, more sucking, doggy. Told her I was going to cum, she said wait a second I'm going to cum with you. She did and her orgasmic contractions set me over the top. I went deep and flooded the zone. Yes, gentlemen. BBFSCIP with my (you know what) finishing all up in her. Nothing special, just the facts..

She told me afterwards she was really horny and and I turned her on so much. We exchanged lines and she told me she wanted see me again in my room. She asked where I was staying (View Talay 6) at the time. She asked me how I was going to get back. I told her I would just take a taxi. She told me not to do that that she would call a Bolt for me. She did and told me I needed to down load the app. She waited with me until the Bolt arrived. We hugged and I was off. You always remember you first one.

But that's not all

Couple of nights later she came over to my room. We talked about longer term possibilities. She wanted someone to take care of her. The offer was, she would fuck me all I wanted, I could fuck whomever I wanted, she would only see me, just pay all her bills. Very early in my visit and I was like whoa, I'll consider it.

Hit the bed and still straight fucking and sucking without kissing but more intense. We were in missionary and I was kissing on her neck. She told me I was being romantic and that it was turning her on. After some really hard pounding with my (you know what) she announced that she was coming and I felt those contractions going on my dick. She was like I got mine anytime you want baby. I did not disappoint. Flooded the zone again. Touchdown!

Pillow Talk:

Things started to get a little intense as she told me she wanted a baby with my eyes and skin color. She was ready to give one to me. She asked if I cared if it was boy or girl? I told her it did not matter but I'm sure a girl will be just a beautiful as she is. She told me a boy would be just as handsome as I am. We actually kissed that that point and things started warming up again. She was like, oh you want to go a second round, I was like yes.

Second Round:

She started sucking and then she started riding me like she was possessed. This went on for a while and I was very surprised because I am not a big fan of cowgirl because most girls cannot ride a dick worth a damn. But she could and she did. I announced I was going to come and she went HAM on my (you know what) blew my splooge all up in her a second time. As she climbed off dripping me out of her she said I beat you, I finished twice.

Epilogue:

We she hit the shower and came back and got dressed. I got her money for her and started to hand it to her. I had 1500 in my hand and she said can I get 2000 from you sweetie. I told her of course and gave her 2100. She asked what the extra 100 was for and I told her it was for here taxi.

Her schedule and mine unfortunately have not allowed us to meet again. We keep in touch. Hopefully that will change soon.

Banana Boi
11-23-23, 20:21
The tiny McDonald's on Walking Street towards (Bali Hai) and the back near Soi 16/ Russian / Indian area is gone. That McDonald's has outlasted so many bars and clubs in that area including Mixx. Goodbye old friend, Ronny.That's surprising that McD was busy at least pre-COVID. Like many others I hardly walk down that far on WS. No gogo bars. A smart businessman would open a McD on the other end of WS.

Banana Boi
11-23-23, 20:49
20 gogo girls in Paradise in LK Metro just attacked a Brit. He must have did something really bad for that to happen. If anyone hears about what started this I'm listening. Wish I was there.

edit - oh it looks like thy got upset at his "girlfriend" (I think you guys know why I wrote girlfriend in apostrophes).

https://aseannow.com/topic/1312332-british-tourist-left-shocked-after-%E2%80%98wild-west%E2%80%99-amid-rolling-brawl-among-club-hostesses-and-dancers/

Goferring
11-23-23, 21:46
Stickman, this week.

At the other end of the spectrum, some are saying that the most attractive agency girls command 30,000 baht for a 10-day contract in the best Walking Street gogo bars. That's 3,000 baht (or around $US 85) in their pocket for a 5- or 6-hour shift which is decent money in Thailand. It's great to see the ladies earning good money while at the same time this is going to skew things even more (the girls will be ultra-aggressive to get lady drinks as the more they are paid, the higher their drink targets are). And when a bar is paying an agency big money for girls, they put up barfine rates to recover the money. In one unnamed Walking Street gogo bar, Friday barfines for a select few ladies is 3,500 baht and the girls have agreed that the short-time fee is 5,000 baht.

Notice he uses the phrase Most Attractive Agency Girls-Few and Far between these are.Who pays the Agency? They have to be making money somehow. Do the gogos pay a finder's fee on top of the girl's salary or does she pay a commission? Or both?

G.

AggieDad1
11-23-23, 22:03
20 gogo girls in Paradise in LK Metro just attacked a Brit. He must have did something really bad for that to happen. If anyone hears about what started this I'm listening. Wish I was there.

edit - oh it looks like thy got upset at his "girlfriend" (I think you guys know why I wrote girlfriend in apostrophes).

https://aseannow.com/topic/1312332-british-tourist-left-shocked-after-%E2%80%98wild-west%E2%80%99-amid-rolling-brawl-among-club-hostesses-and-dancers/Whats the old saying, "Thai people are the happiest people on earth, until they are not, then someone dies. " he is lucky he got off as light as he did. A safety tip I learned growing up in Texas, when you enter a bar first thing you do is make a mental note of where the exits are.

Explorer8939
11-24-23, 02:43
Who pays the Agency? They have to be making money somehow. Do the gogos pay a finder's fee on top of the girl's salary or does she pay a commission? Or both?I used to go with a lady who worked for an agency, ie she recruited ladies for bars (mostly gogos), and she often recounted the details, including how the agency was paid. Every night, she would go to a bar at or near closing time and would collect salaries for bargirls who had finished their 10 day contracts. She would deduct 10% from the salary, and hand the 90% to the bargirl. Sometimes the salary is reduced due to penalties.

EverythingThai
11-24-23, 02:48
Let's see if you can say what is unusual about her.What do you mean LOL. I will tell you what I remember about her. I met her in Maggie Mays, but never bar fined her there. She was a freelancer at that time. This was after covid. Then I met her twice when she had Milk Station. Before she went to stay with her current BF, I got drunk one night really bad and invited her to my condo at 4 am. Then we decided to make a video. Besides the fact she gives wonderful BBBJ and has tattoos and big tits, I don't really recall anything unusual or special about her other than that. The next day we woke up, shagged again and she was off after getting a healthy sum of Baht. I did't ask for A+. Only did that once and not a fan. That was with Sophia. I was just too dam drunk that night. LOL.

LittleBigMan
11-24-23, 04:06
Just in General.

That slogan is Land of Smiles, but as many know criticism isn't one of their strong suits. Living with Thais I myself have seen countless situations where you think the mildest of personalities in a woman.

Then all of a sudden it happens they go off like a time bomb this is the same with the men. Men, I label them silently their actions as may be small dick syndrome (ego) I encounter them on the road each day tailgating my bike or vehicle even when I have a right to the road or can't go any faster because there is an obstruction in front of me. Their brains are so small that they react without thinking and then make some lame excuse for their action.

I look like one of them thus if I stare or get closer I'm not a threat. Many times curious I watch to see how long is it going to take for the explosion. I've seen women go off-throw knives, men beat the women as if they were in a MMA match. It is sad at the same time entertaining. Living here is like being close to a volcano ready to erupt.

From my sources, Paradise for those who know the place isn't loaded with stunners this Brit did not know how sensitive Thais are went in, started buying drinks then, complained about it being watered down, and then the prices. Looking for a threesome he took his older lady 35 compared to his late 20's, then told of the prices for BF for models vs agencies complaining that both categories of ladies weren't worth the pound and that many were too fat and had LB features, in fact, accused one of being one that he wouldn't pick or fuck any of them with the Thai door man small dick.

Of course, this went on and on finally to prove his point said he was going to take his iPhone out and take some shots to post and see if he was right that was the final straw that broke the camel's back as they say. While the volcano erupted Kaos (Not the GoGo) down the Soi the place was empty I did try to pay but go tired of waiting so I skipped. LOL! You can only expect Mai Pen Rai for so long then all of a sudden Boom Boom!

Raj Patela
11-24-23, 04:20
Just in General.

That slogan is Land of Smiles, but as many know criticism isn't one of their strong suits. Living with Thais I myself have seen countless situations where you think the mildest of personalities in a woman.

Then all of a sudden it happens they go off like a time bomb this is the same with the men. Men, I label them silently their actions as may be small dick syndrome (ego) I encounter them on the road each day tailgating my bike or vehicle even when I have a right to the road or can't go any faster because there is an obstruction in front of me. Their brains are so small that they react without thinking and then make some lame excuse for their action.

I look like one of them thus if I stare or get closer I'm not a threat. Many times curious I watch to see how long is it going to take for the explosion. I've seen women go off-throw knives, men beat the women as if they were in a MMA match. It is sad at the same time entertaining. Living here is like being close to a volcano ready to erupt.

From my sources, Paradise for those who know the place isn't loaded with stunners this Brit did not know how sensitive Thais are went in, started buying drinks then, complained about it being watered down, and then the prices. Looking for a threesome he took his older lady 35 compared to his late 20's, then told of the prices for BF for models vs agencies complaining that both categories of ladies weren't worth the pound and that many were too fat and had LB features, in fact, accused one of being one that he wouldn't pick or fuck any of them with the Thai door man small dick.

Of course, this went on and on finally to prove his point said he was going to take his iPhone out and take some shots to post and see if he was right that was the final straw that broke the camel's back as they say. While the volcano erupted Kaos (Not the GoGo) down the Soi the place was empty I did try to pay but go tired of waiting so I skipped. LOL! You can only expect Mai Pen Rai for so long then all of a sudden Boom Boom!All of his issues were covered here. Drink s to ugly old girls. 😂.

We try to inform but can only do so much.

EverythingThai
11-24-23, 04:35
I have only been to Kinerre.

The Set Up:

The first girl I ever fucked in Pattaya was there. It was my first full day in Pattaya. 1500 was the agreement for her; 300 for the room; 1100 Bar Bill.

The Experience:

Ho Experience "he": Straight Fucking / No kissin; Sucked me dick was good at it. Rode, more sucking, missionary, more sucking, doggy. Told her I was going to cum, she said wait a second I'm going to cum with you. She did and her orgasmic contractions set me over the top. I went deep and flooded the zone. Yes, gentlemen. BBFSCIP with my (you know what) finishing all up in her. Nothing special, just the facts..

She told me afterwards she was really horny and and I turned her on so much. We exchanged lines and she told me she wanted see me again in my room. She asked where I was staying (View Talay 6) at the time. She asked me how I was going to get back. I told her I would just take a taxi. She told me not to do that that she would call a Bolt for me. She did and told me I needed to down load the app. She waited with me until the Bolt arrived. We hugged and I was off. You always remember you first one.

But that's not all

Couple of nights later she came over to my room. We talked about longer term possibilities. She wanted someone to take care of her. The offer was, she would fuck me all I wanted, I could fuck whomever I wanted, she would only see me, just pay all her bills. Very early in my visit and I was like whoa, I'll consider it.

Hit the bed and still straight fucking and sucking without kissing but more intense. We were in missionary and I was kissing on her neck. She told me I was being romantic and that it was turning her on. After some really hard pounding with my (you know what) she announced that she was coming and I felt those contractions going on my dick. She was like I got mine anytime you want baby. I did not disappoint. Flooded the zone again. Touchdown!

Pillow Talk:

Things started to get a little intense as she told me she wanted a baby with my eyes and skin color. She was ready to give one to me. She asked if I cared if it was boy or girl? I told her it did not matter but I'm sure a girl will be just a beautiful as she is. She told me a boy would be just as handsome as I am. We actually kissed that that point and things started warming up again. She was like, oh you want to go a second round, I was like yes.

Second Round:

She started sucking and then she started riding me like she was possessed. This went on for a while and I was very surprised because I am not a big fan of cowgirl because most girls cannot ride a dick worth a damn. But she could and she did. I announced I was going to come and she went HAM on my (you know what) blew my splooge all up in her a second time. As she climbed off dripping me out of her she said I beat you, I finished twice.

Epilogue:

We she hit the shower and came back and got dressed. I got her money for her and started to hand it to her. I had 1500 in my hand and she said can I get 2000 from you sweetie. I told her of course and gave her 2100. She asked what the extra 100 was for and I told her it was for here taxi.

Her schedule and mine unfortunately have not allowed us to meet again. We keep in touch. Hopefully that will change soon.Great story mate. The Kineree girls are all freelance which is a unique situation. Meaning they get no salary, just drink commission and the money you pay for their time. She played you like a fiddle mate. These girls sure know what to do and say to set up the long game. This is the kind of content that helps the guys. Keep up the great posts mate.

EverythingThai
11-24-23, 04:36
Not everyone would like to spare US $550 for 1 romp in the sack. I never have, not even in the good old USA.It was not just one romp in the sack, it was 3 pops and a video LOL.

Banana Boi
11-24-23, 05:37
to prove his point said he was going to take his iPhone out and take some shots to post and see if he was right So he's a board member somewhere. Wonder if he's ISG? I'm guessing since he's Brit likely Buzzin or PA. Too funny!

Explorer8939
11-24-23, 06:52
What do you mean LOL. I will tell you what I remember about her. I met her in Maggie Mays, but never bar fined her there. She was a freelancer at that time. This was after covid. Then I met her twice when she had Milk Station. Before she went to stay with her current BF, I got drunk one night really bad and invited her to my condo at 4 am. Then we decided to make a video. Besides the fact she gives wonderful BBBJ and has tattoos and big tits, I don't really recall anything unusual or special about her other than that. The next day we woke up, shagged again and she was off after getting a healthy sum of Baht. I did't ask for A+. Only did that once and not a fan. That was with Sophia. I was just too dam drunk that night. LOL.I have to be careful what I post, since the ladies could immediately identify me if I am not careful. I have long experience with these ladies.

BTW, Honey and Cindy have the same mother. Not sure about the father.

DaDa has something related to an American soft drink. Not too pleasant for me.

EverythingThai
11-24-23, 06:57
Just in General.

That slogan is Land of Smiles, but as many know criticism isn't one of their strong suits. Living with Thais I myself have seen countless situations where you think the mildest of personalities in a woman.

Then all of a sudden it happens they go off like a time bomb this is the same with the men. Men, I label them silently their actions as may be small dick syndrome (ego) I encounter them on the road each day tailgating my bike or vehicle even when I have a right to the road or can't go any faster because there is an obstruction in front of me. Their brains are so small that they react without thinking and then make some lame excuse for their action.

I look like one of them thus if I stare or get closer I'm not a threat. Many times curious I watch to see how long is it going to take for the explosion. I've seen women go off-throw knives, men beat the women as if they were in a MMA match. It is sad at the same time entertaining. Living here is like being close to a volcano ready to erupt.

From my sources, Paradise for those who know the place isn't loaded with stunners this Brit did not know how sensitive Thais are went in, started buying drinks then, complained about it being watered down, and then the prices. Looking for a threesome he took his older lady 35 compared to his late 20's, then told of the prices for BF for models vs agencies complaining that both categories of ladies weren't worth the pound and that many were too fat and had LB features, in fact, accused one of being one that he wouldn't pick or fuck any of them with the Thai door man small dick.

Of course, this went on and on finally to prove his point said he was going to take his iPhone out and take some shots to post and see if he was right that was the final straw that broke the camel's back as they say. While the volcano erupted Kaos (Not the GoGo) down the Soi the place was empty I did try to pay but go tired of waiting so I skipped. LOL! You can only expect Mai Pen Rai for so long then all of a sudden Boom Boom!One of my kiks stays above Boom Bar on Soi LK and took a video from above of some of the fight.

EverythingThai
11-24-23, 12:58
So he's a board member somewhere. Wonder if he's ISG? I'm guessing since he's Brit likely Buzzin or PA. Too funny!There is one toxic Facebook group called Pattaya 365. He sounds like he might belong to that lot. About Buzzing group, that also might be possible but I doubt it. They don't normally name and shame in there.

EverythingThai
11-24-23, 13:54
Stickman, this week.

At the other end of the spectrum, some are saying that the most attractive agency girls command 30,000 baht for a 10-day contract in the best Walking Street gogo bars. That's 3,000 baht (or around $US 85) in their pocket for a 5- or 6-hour shift which is decent money in Thailand. It's great to see the ladies earning good money while at the same time this is going to skew things even more (the girls will be ultra-aggressive to get lady drinks as the more they are paid, the higher their drink targets are). And when a bar is paying an agency big money for girls, they put up barfine rates to recover the money. In one unnamed Walking Street gogo bar, Friday barfines for a select few ladies is 3,500 baht and the girls have agreed that the short-time fee is 5,000 baht.

Notice he uses the phrase Most Attractive Agency Girls-Few and Far between these are.Sorry Raj, but, most of this is over exaggerated nonsense and who cares anyways. What I don't understand is why people come to Pattaya and get so stressed out over how much some girls charge and how much some bars charge. I have said this many times. Pattaya has something for everyone. Whether you are a Cheap Charlie or baller or somewhere in the middle, you can find what you want at the price you are willing to spend. One man's trash is another man's treasure too. That means that one guy may be feeling love at first site and pay a lot for a girl, where another guy does not even care about looks or finds the same girls unattractive. But because he does not care as long as it's a hole to stick his dick in, he will only pay a low amount. So what. It's their money.

So, if you want to ball out at a go go or club on walking street and spend 20 k +++ you can. If you want a cheap HJ in a massage place for 500 Bhat, you can do it. If you want to spend a few thousand in a beer bar or in a gents club, you can. If you want a quick ST for 1000 Baht from TF, you can. If you want to party like a rock star, you can go to soi 6 and ring the bell 10 times and get three Sts and a LT and spend 30,000 +++, you can. Just enjoy Pattaya for what it is and do what you want. You can even get 500 Baht in the coconut bar. Who cares what others think and do and pay. For example, I say that anyone can get BBFS CIP and another guys says, only expats can who live here because they are regular customers and tourists can't. So what? It's my experience. I know what I say is true from my perspective. Its worked for me and my friends for 13+ years. The other poster may always have the girl ask for a condom. Why? It's because she does not trust you and thinks you are not a good guy or maybe she thinks you are a cheap charlie. The girls create a first impression of you as soon as you meet them and it's hard to change that first impression. Just have fun and that's it.

Here is Sam, enjoy looking at her for a while lol. Then get out there and have fun and come back and post about it. Photos from her line, I have not been able to get her to agree to photos. I am working on her to get her to agree to a video. Let's see. And for all you cynics, I never share these videos or post them anywhere.

Explorer8939
11-24-23, 14:27
Anyone who doesn't notice the massive traffic tonight isn't in Pattaya.

Raj Patela
11-24-23, 14:39
Sorry Raj, but, most of this is over exaggerated nonsense and who cares anyways. What I don't understand is why people come to Pattaya and get so stressed out over how much some girls charge and how much some bars charge. I have said this many times. Pattaya has something for everyone. Whether you are a Cheap Charlie or baller or somewhere in the middle, you can find what you want at the price you are willing to spend. One man's trash is another man's treasure too. That means that one guy may be feeling love at first site and pay a lot for a girl, where another guy does not even care about looks or finds the same girls unattractive. But because he does not care as long as it's a hole to stick his dick in, he will only pay a low amount. So what. It's their money.

So, if you want to ball out at a go go or club on walking street and spend 20 k +++ you can. If you want a cheap HJ in a massage place for 500 Bhat, you can do it. If you want to spend a few thousand in a beer bar or in a gents club, you can. If you want a quick ST for 1000 Baht from TF, you can. If you want to party like a rock star, you can go to soi 6 and ring the bell 10 times and get three Sts and a LT and spend 30,000 +++, you can. Just enjoy Pattaya for what it is and do what you want. You can even get 500 Baht in the coconut bar. Who cares what others think and do and pay. For example, I say that anyone can get BBFS CIP and another guys says, only expats can who live here because they are regular customers and tourists can't. So what? It's my experience. I know what I say is true from my perspective. Its worked for me and my friends for 13+ years. The other poster may always have the girl ask for a condom. Why? It's because she does not trust you and thinks you are not a good guy or maybe she thinks you are a cheap charlie. The girls create a first impression of you as soon as you meet them and it's hard to change that first impression. Just have fun and that's it.

Here is Sam, enjoy looking at her for a while lol. Then get out there and have fun and come back and post about it. Photos from her line, I have not been able to get her to agree to photos. I am working on her to get her to agree to a video. Let's see. And for all you cynics, I never share these videos or post them anywhere.It's not overrated Nonsense. It's what people want to know.

Treasure Shmeasure.

9 out of 10 members here would rate Nana Schoolgirl 1 ,2 or ,3.

An outlier like the Angry dud would rate her HOT.

Explorer8939
11-24-23, 14:58
Plai reports that Honey and Cindy are sisters.

Turgid
11-24-23, 15:24
It was not just one romp in the sack, it was 3 pops and a video LOL.Great that she rocked your world which is what its all about.

EverythingThai
11-24-23, 20:04
I have to be careful what I post, since the ladies could immediately identify me if I am not careful. I have long experience with these ladies.

BTW, Honey and Cindy have the same mother. Not sure about the father.

DaDa has something related to an American soft drink. Not too pleasant for me.I am telling you they lied to you. Cindy and Honey tell everyone they are sisters but they are cousins. The whole family are habitual liars. About the thing related to the American soft drink, other than coke, I have no freakin idea what you are talking about. She never did that shit around me and she is not a squirter either as far as I know. However, if she really is, I couldn't make her do it or I was too drunk to remember lol. Lastly, the girls have no idea about this forum. They all use apps on their phones. The girls know about the buzzin discord but never go on there. They just ask the managers to check as Play Girls has their own section that Carlos manages. You worry for absolutely nothing. If you want me to know what it is, you can DM me. Cheers.

Mr Enternational
11-25-23, 01:23
I have to be careful what I post, since the ladies could immediately identify me if I am not careful. I have long experience with these ladies. BTW, Honey and Cindy have the same mother. Not sure about the father. DaDa has something related to an American soft drink. Not too pleasant for me.Damn dude. I know less about regular chicks that I date than you know about hookers. They come over to fuck. No need for me to be concerned with their ancestral lineage or favorite soft drink. He is probably there to fuck them, not to learn about her little cousin's ant farm. Not sure about a hooker's father? Who gives a fuck besides you?

Explorer8939
11-25-23, 02:37
I am telling you they lied to you. Cindy and Honey tell everyone they are sisters but they are cousins. The whole family are habitual liars. About the thing related to the American soft drink, other than coke, I have no freakin idea what you are talking about. She never did that shit around me and she is not a squirter either as far as I know. However, if she really is, I couldn't make her do it or I was too drunk to remember lol. Lastly, the girls have no idea about this forum. They all use apps on their phones. The girls know about the buzzin discord but never go on there. They just ask the managers to check as Play Girls has their own section that Carlos manages. You worry for absolutely nothing. If you want me to know what it is, you can DM me. Cheers.Obnoxious squirter.

The first time caught me completely by surprise, and I thought I was going to drown. After that, I was prepared, and always had towels at the ready.

Doesn't mean she had cum, only that she was very horny.

Concerning Cindy and Honey, I have a few ladies go over their family tree to explain the relationship among the siblings of their parents, and where the cousins come from.

HorseTrader
11-25-23, 03:35
I am telling you they lied to you. Cindy and Honey tell everyone they are sisters but they are cousins.In some cases it's Asian culture and translation to upgrade close friends to "cousin" status and upgrade cousins to "sister" status. Respected men in the village might be referenced as uncle. Thai do it and so do some other Asian cultures.

Then, of course, there might be flat out lies to suck more money from the walking ATM.

EverythingThai
11-25-23, 05:13
Explorer has to worry about Rogue members here who would sell him out. Weird but I've read stories. Doxxing like.Thats a good point that I never thought of.

EverythingThai
11-25-23, 05:20
Damn dude. I know less about regular chicks that I date than you know about hookers. They come over to fuck. No need for me to be concerned with their ancestral lineage or favorite soft drink. He is probably there to fuck them, not to learn about her little cousin's ant farm. Not sure about a hooker's father? Who gives a fuck besides you?The reason he knows is he spends a lot of time in Maggie Mays and the bars in the area me thinks. Especially in Maggie Mays, it is like a neighborhood type of bar. For example, one day I'm in there shooting the shit with the manager and a customer and we are talking footy. They have beer crds and so on that keep the locals coming in. However, this neighborhood bar has one big difference. As I am having this conversation, right next to me is a guy eating pussy right at the bar with the girl sitting on the bar with her legs spread and on my right is a guy with a girl straddling him naked and he's sucking her tits. Sadly since Annie and Bob have left, the place sucks. I have been that guy on several occasions. Mob point is that people talk a lot and meet up in the bar so lots of time to exchange intel.

EverythingThai
11-25-23, 05:22
Obnoxious squirter.

The first time caught me completely by surprise, and I thought I was going to drown. After that, I was prepared, and always had towels at the ready.

Doesn't mean she had cum, only that she was very horny.

Concerning Cindy and Honey, I have a few ladies go over their family tree to explain the relationship among the siblings of their parents, and where the cousins come from.For the 3 times I fucked her, I never made her squirt. I didn't stay down there long enough LOL. At least as far as I can remember. With her I was selfish and she was mostly sucking me and then a lot of fucking.

EverythingThai
11-25-23, 05:29
Plai reports that Honey and Cindy are sisters.Plai îs in on it LOL. They are all habitual liars. I caught Plai on Facebook dating trying to find a replacement for her BF. This whole family of 4 know hot to play the game. Trust me mate. When you tell guys you are real sisters and then start sucking each others titis and kissing like they have both done in front of me several times, they know the guys love the fantasy of two real sisters in bed being naughty. They say it to get more business. I have it first hand. They are only cousins. Anyways, enough about this family. I have been with 2/4 and now I consider the whole lot of them to be trash. No matter how hot the sex was. You have bar girls and then you have real hustlers and seasoned prostitutes and these 4 play the innocent game to lure in customers and simps. I know a guy and had no idea he also knew them. Poor guy go taken by Cindy for a lot of cash.

EverythingThai
11-25-23, 07:31
It's not overrated Nonsense. It's what people want to know.

Treasure Shmeasure.

9 out of 10 members here would rate Nana Schoolgirl 1 ,2 or ,3.

An outlier like the Angry dud would rate her HOT.I said over exaggerated not overrated LOL. Therefore, what you are saying could be true, but your conclusions are not as solid. For example, you might say all girls on WS charge 5000 ST now, but in reality, only 30% do and only 1/2 may be able to stay firm on that where the other half will lower to 3500.

Explorer8939
11-25-23, 13:33
Wow.

One hour waits for a Bolt taxi in Pattaya tonight.

EihTooms
11-25-23, 13:43
It's not overrated Nonsense. It's what people want to know.

Treasure Shmeasure.

9 out of 10 members here would rate Nana Schoolgirl 1 ,2 or ,3.

An outlier like the Angry dud would rate her HOT.It's beginning to appear more and more like the Nana Schoolgirl rejected your ST offer on day one and you just can't get over it. LOL.

EverythingThai
11-25-23, 17:19
It's beginning to appear more and more like the Nana Schoolgirl rejected your ST offer on day one and you just can't get over it. LOL.I suspect that happens to him a lot. If a girl won't pay his price, he will dislike her. For me in Pattaya, negotiating and worrying about money just spoils the whole mood for me. Thats why with the bar girls, I always just play it by ear. I have never had one complaint about how much I pay after the deed. It's only with the TF freelancers I clear everything upfront. Then they come, we do the deed, and then she goes.

Here is an example. I have had my eye on a girl from a live stream now for 6 months and have never been able to get around to meeting, as the mods on the live stream were too strict. Then they opened up a new bar and I will go to see her shortly. She ticks all my boxes. Here is my plan. I will get her 50 drinks of whatever she wants and put 100 Baht under each drink. This is how I will start things and this will for sure lead to some decent partying and fun in the bar. At 150 Baht per drink, that will be 7,500 baht. Plus the 100 Baht x 50 will be 5000 baht. Plus my drinks, maybe another 1000 baht. Thats 13,500 Baht. After that, I will bar fine her and take good care of her for the rest of the night. Do you think she will ask me for a condom Tooms? I would have to say no. LOL.

I don't do this with every bar girl of course, but I have had my eye on this one for some time and can't get her off my mind. The whole night will most likely cost me 20 K baht or a little more. Depends if we go to a club or not before going back to my place.

Fo another girl I might do something similar, but on a much lower scale.

NRandom940
11-25-23, 18:11
I suspect that happens to him a lot. If a girl won't pay his price, he will dislike her. For me in Pattaya, negotiating and worrying about money just spoils the whole mood for me. Thats why with the bar girls, I always just play it by ear. I have never had one complaint about how much I pay after the deed. It's only with the TF freelancers I clear everything upfront. Then they come, we do the deed, and then she goes.

Here is an example. I have had my eye on a girl from a live stream now for 6 months and have never been able to get around to meeting, as the mods on the live stream were too strict. Then they opened up a new bar and I will go to see her shortly. She ticks all my boxes. Here is my plan. I will get her 50 drinks of whatever she wants and put 100 Baht under each drink. This is how I will start things and this will for sure lead to some decent partying and fun in the bar. At 150 Baht per drink, that will be 7,500 baht. Plus the 100 Baht x 50 will be 5000 baht. Plus my drinks, maybe another 1000 baht. Thats 13,500 Baht. After that, I will bar fine her and take good care of her for the rest of the night. Do you think she will ask me for a condom Tooms? I would have to say no. LOL.

I don't do this with every bar girl of course, but I have had my eye on this one for some time and can't get her off my mind. The whole night will most likely cost me 20 K baht or a little more. Depends if we go to a club or not before going back to my place.

Fo another girl I might do something similar, but on a much lower scale.When you meet TF freelancers, do you meet them in public first to make sure they resemble their photos? Do you meet them in the hotel lobby or they come to your room directly? Do you just turn them away if the pics aren't accurate? Do you verify with video call first?

Basically I'm asking what's your method of handling the "possible fake / enhanced photo" problem?

EihTooms
11-25-23, 19:25
I suspect that happens to him a lot. If a girl won't pay his price, he will dislike her. For me in Pattaya, negotiating and worrying about money just spoils the whole mood for me. Thats why with the bar girls, I always just play it by ear. I have never had one complaint about how much I pay after the deed. It's only with the TF freelancers I clear everything upfront. Then they come, we do the deed, and then she goes.

Here is an example. I have had my eye on a girl from a live stream now for 6 months and have never been able to get around to meeting, as the mods on the live stream were too strict. Then they opened up a new bar and I will go to see her shortly. She ticks all my boxes. Here is my plan. I will get her 50 drinks of whatever she wants and put 100 Baht under each drink. This is how I will start things and this will for sure lead to some decent partying and fun in the bar. At 150 Baht per drink, that will be 7,500 baht. Plus the 100 Baht x 50 will be 5000 baht. Plus my drinks, maybe another 1000 baht. Thats 13,500 Baht. After that, I will bar fine her and take good care of her for the rest of the night. Do you think she will ask me for a condom Tooms? I would have to say no. LOL.

I don't do this with every bar girl of course, but I have had my eye on this one for some time and can't get her off my mind. The whole night will most likely cost me 20 K baht or a little more. Depends if we go to a club or not before going back to my place.

Fo another girl I might do something similar, but on a much lower scale.Hey, as long as it works for you, that's great. I am certainly not a Price Policeman. Never have been. And if laying out the cash in those amounts in Pattaya gets it done for you or anyone else with the girls you want to fuck bareback I applaud it.

I have always believed that deficiencies in the Thai P4 P scene, if any, have nothing to do with price but everything to do with too many low demand customers paying the girls' asking prices or close to them and settling for basic, standard fare, covered everything sometimes. Whatever the girls dole out essentially. HJ's and no DFK touted as "GFE", a COB finish touted as "PSE" and so on. Too much concern over "How Much" and precious little regarding "In Exchange For What".

And, no, it is quite probable that your girl in question will remain silent and not bring everything to a screeching halt by demanding a condom at the point of entry.

Well, I guess I can return that book on Building Trust And Coming Across as a Good Guy With Thai Prostitutes that I borrowed from the Bangkok City Library yesterday. Haha.

Mr Enternational
11-25-23, 23:42
And, no, it is quite probable that your girl in question will remain silent and not bring everything to a screeching halt by demanding a condom at the point of entry.They never do. I do not know why you guys try to attribute it to something you are doing. I do not do any of that stuff, yet same results.

GatorAk
11-26-23, 01:42
I suspect that happens to him a lot. If a girl won't pay his price, he will dislike her. For me in Pattaya, negotiating and worrying about money just spoils the whole mood for me. Thats why with the bar girls, I always just play it by ear. I have never had one complaint about how much I pay after the deed. It's only with the TF freelancers I clear everything upfront. Then they come, we do the deed, and then she goes.

Here is an example. I have had my eye on a girl from a live stream now for 6 months and have never been able to get around to meeting, as the mods on the live stream were too strict. Then they opened up a new bar and I will go to see her shortly. She ticks all my boxes. Here is my plan. I will get her 50 drinks of whatever she wants and put 100 Baht under each drink. This is how I will start things and this will for sure lead to some decent partying and fun in the bar. At 150 Baht per drink, that will be 7,500 baht. Plus the 100 Baht x 50 will be 5000 baht. Plus my drinks, maybe another 1000 baht. Thats 13,500 Baht. After that, I will bar fine her and take good care of her for the rest of the night. Do you think she will ask me for a condom Tooms? I would have to say no. LOL.

I don't do this with every bar girl of course, but I have had my eye on this one for some time and can't get her off my mind. The whole night will most likely cost me 20 K baht or a little more. Depends if we go to a club or not before going back to my place.

Fo another girl I might do something similar, but on a much lower scale.Good thing I don't mind using condom. No way I would wine and dine some bargirl just so I could get bareback service. Just curious how many nights a week are you doing this?

EihTooms
11-26-23, 04:51
They never do. I do not know why you guys try to attribute it to something you are doing. I do not do any of that stuff, yet same results.Actually, I don't attribute a girl bringing everything to a screeching halt by demanding a condom at the point of (no) entry to something I am doing. It is almost always because the girl I am in bed with is simply very confident that she can still make plenty of money without providing BBFS+CIP to anyone.

I have certainly encountered tons of ladies who have no reason to feel so confident about that. Sometimes I will agree to take them too. And, sure enough, they do not dare bring up anything that might come between her vagina and the money she needs. But I don't want to make a steady diet of those kind of ladies just so I can tell myself none of my ladies ever said a word about wearing a condom or ever said "hey wait" at the point of entry.

EverythingThai
11-26-23, 05:07
Good thing I don't mind using condom. No way I would wine and dine some bargirl just so I could get bareback service. Just curious how many nights a week are you doing this?Maybe you need to read my post more clearly.

I will help you.




I don't do this with every bar girl of course, but I have had my eye on this one for some time and can't get her off my mind. The whole night will most likely cost me 20 K baht or a little more. Depends if we go to a club or not before going back to my place.

For another girl I might do something similar, but on a much lower scale.

Kindly read the entire post before commenting.Otherwise you will assume things that are just not accurate.

Explorer8939
11-26-23, 05:11
I normally don't mind fucking ladies who have sponsors, but lately I have been concerned about ladies who get a lot of money.

One lady is getting 300,000 baht every month from a lonely guy. I decided I didn't want to fuck her, because if she had the bad luck of being cut off, she would always blame me. She asked to go to Hong Kong with me (she would pay her half of the expenses), but I declined.

Anyway, the sponsor cut her off today, so she will see me tomorrow for a fuck session.

Another lady I know has a whale who bought her 3 gold baht. I have told her I won't see her until he cuts her off.

I try to avoid bad karma.

EverythingThai
11-26-23, 05:16
When you meet TF freelancers, do you meet them in public first to make sure they resemble their photos? Do you meet them in the hotel lobby or they come to your room directly? Do you just turn them away if the pics aren't accurate? Do you verify with video call first?

Basically I'm asking what's your method of handling the "possible fake / enhanced photo" problem?

I stated in a previous thread, I use TF when I am too lazy to go out and want delivery. If I go out, I go out to a bar or go go. I ay start to date again and then consider it. I posted about 10K Baht dates in a recent thread and would only do it with stunners.

In Pattaya condos, it's not possible for the girls to come to your room, as they don't have the key card to the front door of the building or the lift. Therefore, I meet them in the lobby or outside at the front of the condo.

About turning them away. I have never had one show up that looked so much different that I had to send them away. However, I did send one away when she told me she had just had a customer right before me. Normally, I ask this on TF. I just sent her packing with 500 Baht.

If you get a bait and switch, that is what I would suggest you do. Send them packing with taxi money and don't cause an argument or dispute in your condo or hotel.

Raj Patela
11-26-23, 06:08
Hey, as long as it works for you, that's great. I am certainly not a Price Policeman. Never have been. And if laying out the cash in those amounts in Pattaya gets it done for you or anyone else with the girls you want to fuck bareback I applaud it.

I have always believed that deficiencies in the Thai P4 P scene, if any, have nothing to do with price but everything to do with too many low demand customers paying the girls' asking prices or close to them and settling for basic, standard fare, covered everything sometimes. Whatever the girls dole out essentially. HJ's and no DFK touted as "GFE", a COB finish touted as "PSE" and so on. Too much concern over "How Much" and precious little regarding "In Exchange For What".

And, no, it is quite probable that your girl in question will remain silent and not bring everything to a screeching halt by demanding a condom at the point of entry.

Well, I guess I can return that book on Building Trust And Coming Across as a Good Guy With Thai Prostitutes that I borrowed from the Bangkok City Library yesterday. Haha.I am the price.

Who is this guy outbidding?

50 drinks to start is insane. Why not start at one. Weird 💪 Flexxin going on in Pattaya.

Explorer8939
11-26-23, 06:33
I stated in a previous thread, I use TF when I am too lazy to go out and want delivery. If I go out, I go out to a bar or go go. I ay start to date again and then consider it. I posted about 10K Baht dates in a recent thread and would only do it with stunners.

In Pattaya condos, it's not possible for the girls to come to your room, as they don't have the key card to the front door of the building or the lift. Therefore, I meet them in the lobby or outside at the front of the condo.

About turning them away. I have never had one show up that looked so much different that I had to send them away. However, I did send one away when she told me she had just had a customer right before me. Normally, I ask this on TF. I just sent her packing with 500 Baht.

If you get a bait and switch, that is what I would suggest you do. Send them packing with taxi money and don't cause an argument or dispute in your condo or hotel.I once had a lady come to my condo with 3 of her friends. She was a bit unclear on the concept, since she had previously come with one friend, and I fucked them both. I guess she figured that bringing 3 friends would mean she only have to work 1/4 as much.

Anyway, I sent two away with taxi fare, and fucked two ladies.

TravelingMan3
11-26-23, 07:43
For other guys who may be reading this and don't know better you don't need to spend 10 k baht on date nights or anything goofy like that you can pay the standard price for the location your picking the chick you don't need to take them on date nights.

Mr Enternational
11-26-23, 08:04
The tiny McDonald's on Walking Street towards (Bali Hai) and the back near Soi 16/ Russian / Indian area is gone. That McDonald's has outlasted so many bars and clubs in that area including Mixx. Goodbye old friend, Ronny.Not gone. Just being renovated.

Belvaros
11-26-23, 08:10
The more you post the more it's getting clear that you're not a customer.

Why would I care what other guys are doing while I'm enjoying my time in the bar, or at any given time of the day? You could even have a girl twerking on your the*ck while I'm eating or drinking my coffee at the restaurant, or while I'm sleeping at night. That's not like we are competing one another to get these girls, they are everywhere, so I really don't care what you or any other guy is doing mate.

You say I'm arguing with the staff, I'm not. I just tell the girl to put lots of Sangsom inside and not just pretend the glass is filled with alcohol. If the girl doesn't want to do it I just move to another place, there is no arguing in there.

As long as I'm concerned you could spend 25 K or 50 K just on drinks in the bars that I wouldn't care, but I think you're doing none.Ignore list is valuable on here. I've blocked this bloke. He spins BS.

YMMV.

Att. Toybox beauty. Anyone know her.

Paolo99
11-26-23, 16:07
Who is this guy outbidding?

50 drinks to start is insane. Why not start at one. Weird 💪 Flexxin going on in Pattaya.A bar owner.

Trying to establish what he describes as a norm.

And when the girl later refuse to bareback, give her 500 baht for taxi and throw her out the door. Easy!

Member #4788
11-26-23, 17:33
Have anything useful to contribute other than this? Can we get some trip reports? Maybe more than just you telling a story in broken English of how you walked up and down soi 6 trying to get the repent girls' attention. Come on man. An experienced monger as yourself must have some good reports. Let's go bud!

Meanwhile, here is a photo of a girl that I will highlight in my next post. This is Pu. Formally of Club 4 which has since been closed down and reopened under a different name. The owner Stan also took over G spot in Soi Pothole. They live stream still every night. Stay tuned for a quite the crazy story. This photo was how we began our night.Hey EverythingThai! Do you have any info on this chick? Price and experience? Would love to hear more!

Member #4788
11-26-23, 18:27
Sometimes, when my GF is away, I will do what I call a 10 K date. I will find a hot girl and pay her 10 K LT. This means dinner at Horizon at the Hilton and then back to my place. Rent a GF for the night and be ensured of a 100% GFE experience. I have not done this since covid, but I often did it before covid as well. I think it's time to get this going again. Here is Chalita, my last 10 K date. Two photos I took while we were at Horizon and the rest are random pics from the bikini boat cruises by buddy and I used to go on during covid. They were a blast. Many hot girls would attend. Enjoy Chalita boys. Last I heard she was at Queen Club in LK metro.She is pretty, but 10 k baht for 1 good day? I mean that's about $250-$275 USD! I don't mind people spending their money as they will, but how do you plan a trip to thailand on that kind fo a daily budget? Its tough!

For that price here's my thinking. I can fly to Colombia RT for $450. I can enjoy Todos LOS Noches with a hot Medellin beautiful single women off facebook for $60-$80. I just don't understand why youd pay more in Thailand? First time coming to thailand, just trying to understand how the game works so I'm ready and having fun!

CaliGuy33
11-26-23, 19:14
Ignore list is valuable on here. I've blocked this bloke. He spins BS.

YMMV.

Att. Toybox beauty. Anyone know her.I met this chick at CF and got her Line. Ended up smashin her a few times. I didn't find her all that fun in bed.

Finnish Fucker
11-26-23, 19:17
Here is Sam, enjoy looking at her for a while lol. Then get out there and have fun and come back and post about it. Photos from her line, I have not been able to get her to agree to photos. I am working on her to get her to agree to a video. Let's see. And for all you cynics, I never share these videos or post them anywhere.Looks like Sam has had a bit of a breast surgery. I prefer natural tits, never take silicons anymore. This young lass had a fine pair.

CaliGuy33
11-26-23, 19:19
Looks like Sam has had a bit of a breast surgery. I prefer natural tits, never take silicons anymore. This young lass had a fine pair.Those boobs look horrible, I can't stand when the nipples are way off center like that, such a turn off.

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11-27-23, 03:53
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Newton York
11-27-23, 04:07
I got to say fellas, I'm mainly a Bangkok guy, and hope to return to Bangkok some day, but going through the Pattaya forum here just a few pages back and right away it seems way raunchier and wilder. Maybe Pattaya might be something up my alley. If I were to sum it up, Pattaya seems to be cheaper overall than Bangkok, and that's saying something, considering how much cheaper Bangkok is already compared to other hobbying destinations. I'm not huge into alcohol or the party life, I am on the verge of becoming an extremely old man, right now I'm just an old man. But if there's one place that could kill me while I'm having the time of my life, Pattaya sounds like it. I might want to give this place a try next time I'm in Thailand. At my age, I got to get as many fucks in as I can while the old ticker still works. I've done many of the options available for mongering in Bangkok, except for the G style clubs. I've always been curious about the Pimp in Bangkok, but that's a bit too much for my financial taste. But reading how some of these gentlemen club style places in Pattaya are considerably more cost effective than Bangkok, maybe I can get my experience in Pattaya instead. God, I wish I was in Thailand now.

Expat American
11-27-23, 06:05
She is pretty, but 10 k baht for 1 good day? I mean that's about $250-$275 USD! I don't mind people spending their money as they will, but how do you plan a trip to thailand on that kind fo a daily budget? Its tough!

For that price here's my thinking. I can fly to Colombia RT for $450. I can enjoy Todos LOS Noches with a hot Medellin beautiful single women off facebook for $60-$80. I just don't understand why youd pay more in Thailand? First time coming to thailand, just trying to understand how the game works so I'm ready and having fun!Thailand is not cheap anymore. You could get a street girl for 1000-1500ST. Also same on TF. Gogo girls will cost you at least 7000 B by the time you are said and done. Pattaya slightly cheaper than BKK. In my opinion Thai girls have become totally mercenary and commercial. The advantages are there are thousands and thousands of available girls but getting anything close to a real GFE is increasingly difficult. I just go to a massage fuck shop like Cherry Massage and get a threesome PSE for about 5 K bhat which I think is better value overall. Not with beauty queens but a great experience nonetheless.

From the US I don't see the value of going there just to fuck. Now if you want a great tourist experience with awesome food, culture, beaches and some fucking, nothing else comes close.

Explorer8939
11-27-23, 06:11
God, I wish I was in Thailand now.Be careful what you wish.

I'm a full time resident here, and it can be a challenge to maximize your fun.

First off, if you fuck too much too quickly, you feel like joining the priesthood after a while. Sometimes I fuck ladies with similar bodies and techniques too many times (or worse, the same lady too many times), and get tired of them.

Or ladies with good bodies but no technique.

Thai ladies don't like to talk about sex, so it's hard to teach them anything.

And then there are ladies who fuck too much and are burned out. One lady who comes to my condo has a Thai husband, a full time Farang customer plus she works bar and goes with customers Short Time. So by the time she comes to my condo, things aren't good downstairs.

ThaiGoodTimes
11-27-23, 06:23
Looks like Sam has had a bit of a breast surgery. I prefer natural tits, never take silicons anymore. This young lass had a fine pair.Not all that much natural looking about those breasts as shown.

But you were there with them, so I guess you checked them out properly.

Finnish Fucker
11-27-23, 09:33
Those boobs look horrible, I can't stand when the nipples are way off center like that, such a turn off.😂 Such is life. You should stick with plastic boobs which are carved to your liking. Plenty of them in Thailand.

Mr Enternational
11-27-23, 12:05
Thailand is not cheap anymore. You could get a street girl for 1000-1500ST. Also same on TF. Gogo girls will cost you at least 7000 B by the time you are said and done. Pattaya slightly cheaper than BKK. In my opinion Thai girls have become totally mercenary and commercial. The advantages are there are thousands and thousands of available girls but getting anything close to a real GFE is increasingly difficult. I just go to a massage fuck shop like Cherry Massage and get a threesome PSE for about 5 K bhat which I think is better value overall. Not with beauty queens but a great experience nonetheless.

From the US I don't see the value of going there just to fuck. Now if you want a great tourist experience with awesome food, culture, beaches and some fucking, nothing else comes close.You say Thailand is not cheap anymore, but the only example you give of it being expensive is a gogo bar. I still have no problem getting real GFE all night for 1200 baht. Chick from last night even did my laundry while I slept.

CaliGuy33
11-27-23, 15:25
I saw on the news a South Korean guy got scammed into investing into a grocery store by his Thai girlfriend who promptly disappeared LOL. Appearing the guy was so pissed he let it rain Thai money from his 8th floor room onto Soi Buakho. Curious is any boots on the ground were around to see this.

It amazes me how gullible guys are to just had women money. Sad and funny at the same time.

Explorer8939
11-27-23, 16:20
LBM, have to disagree with you. This is just the tip of the iceberg. Although Im not suggesting that Pattaya is already condenmed, the changes I have noted myself in as little as the last 4 years, are, indeed, very worrying.
Continue having a great time and enjoying Pattaya for what it is. But be warned, it aint gonna last forever!
SidA complaint from 2008.

No matter when, there are always posters complaining that Pattaya has gone downhill, it really sucks now, and the Old Days Were Better.

They were saying that In The Old Days.

Wayne Roberts
11-27-23, 16:47
You say Thailand is not cheap anymore, but the only example you give of it being expensive is a gogo bar. I still have no problem getting real GFE all night for 1200 baht. Chick from last night even did my laundry while I slept.I can just imagine what she looked like.

I really don't get the point of bullshit posts like this, no decent looking woman is going 1200 LT. What a load of crap.

Frankypanky
11-27-23, 18:25
Back home after two weeks which flew by!

I was in Patts in Sept. 22, then April 23 having the full Songkhran experience. And now I am back from two weeks Nov. 11 till the 25th.

What can I say? This last vacation was much better then expected. And I forced myself to have 'no' expectations at all. My first week was with a fellow Dutchman (I am Dutch), which made it easier to explore several clubs and bars.

He also helped me when I had a block. That happens sometimes. You fuck the women you want and then there is some kind of freeze!

Price-wise things have not changed at all. TF was 1200 to 2500ST. Agogo girls came to my room for 3000 LT, but I have to admit that I knew these Agogo ladies a bit longer. Some other girl from Tantra, Emmy, was not in for LT. She still asked 3 k for ST. Emmy is half Thai and (I suspect) half Afro American. Big Boobs and Ass. Strong lady!

My 'theme' for this vacation was (as you guess) Big Boobs! I reached about 98 percent of my goals! I could fuck five out of the top 8 of big boobs I found at TF! Only Tannonapa turned out to be a big annoying hassle, so I ignored her. And Smile was out of town with her rich Japanese regular.

It turned out not to be as expensive as I thought to date those big ladies.

The best part was with a lady from BR, who I knew before. We met, we talked and I bluffed about having a threesome with Porn and her friend Som. I already knew that Som was a bit hesitant. Well. Som went Black (me being her first Black customer) and now I get Line messages about how much she miss me! Hahaha!

But it became better!

At some night, I got a text from Som. They where at a bar called Taen Bar at Soi 7. I joined them. Gave them a few Jgerbombs and then. Then I had 4 . I repeat. FOUR ladies in my room, 555!

It was wild and I had three of them sucking my dick in turns, until I blew in Porns mouth! Epic porno stuff!

I made a picture of all ladies I fucked, but I understand that it's better to not show faces? Please advice!

Frankypanky
11-27-23, 20:43
Adding photo's to spice up and contribute to this thread.

From left to right. Ploy, BR lady. Sal via TF and Cream from a Agogo! Costs BTW 800 B and 2,5 k ST.

Might be more to post if I have a decent cropper for the picutures!

All the Best.

LittleBigMan
11-28-23, 01:49
A complaint from 2008.

No matter when, there are always posters complaining that Pattaya has gone downhill, it really sucks now, and the Old Days Were Better.

They were saying that In The Old Days.If I get right, I would disagree? A report I wrote in 2008 in regards to Pattaya going down hill. Interesting 15 year ago I would like to see what I wrote in regards to the good old days so I can respond properly.

What I do know 15 years ago I wouldn't be waiting for Bolt for an hour.

Raj Patela
11-28-23, 02:03
Back home after two weeks which flew by!

I was in Patts in Sept. 22, then April 23 having the full Songkhran experience. And now I am back from two weeks Nov. 11 till the 25th.

What can I say? This last vacation was much better then expected. And I forced myself to have 'no' expectations at all. My first week was with a fellow Dutchman (I am Dutch), which made it easier to explore several clubs and bars.

He also helped me when I had a block. That happens sometimes. You fuck the women you want and then there is some kind of freeze!

Price-wise things have not changed at all. TF was 1200 to 2500ST. Agogo girls came to my room for 3000 LT, but I have to admit that I knew these Agogo ladies a bit longer. Some other girl from Tantra, Emmy, was not in for LT. She still asked 3 k for ST. Emmy is half Thai and (I suspect) half Afro American. Big Boobs and Ass. Strong lady!

My 'theme' for this vacation was (as you guess) Big Boobs! I reached about 98 percent of my goals! I could fuck five out of the top 8 of big boobs I found at TF! Only Tannonapa turned out to be a big annoying hassle, so I ignored her. And Smile was out of town with her rich Japanese regular.

It turned out not to be as expensive as I thought to date those big ladies.

The best part was with a lady from BR, who I knew before. We met, we talked and I bluffed about having a threesome with Porn and her friend Som. I already knew that Som was a bit hesitant. Well. Som went Black (me being her first Black customer) and now I get Line messages about how much she miss me! Hahaha!

But it became better!

At some night, I got a text from Som. They where at a bar called Taen Bar at Soi 7. I joined them. Gave them a few Jgerbombs and then. Then I had 4 . I repeat. FOUR ladies in my room, 555!

It was wild and I had three of them sucking my dick in turns, until I blew in Porns mouth! Epic porno stuff!

I made a picture of all ladies I fucked, but I understand that it's better to not show faces? Please advice!Really no point in posting Photos without Faces.

Raj Patela
11-28-23, 02:05
I can just imagine what she looked like.

I really don't get the point of bullshit posts like this, no decent looking woman is going 1200 LT. What a load of crap.I'd really like to add but have a few Infractions. LOL.

Let's just say SubCom is a disciple of Mr E. LOL.

Mr Enternational
11-28-23, 02:46
I can just imagine what she looked like. I really don't get the point of bullshit posts like this, no decent looking woman is going 1200 LT. What a load of crap.Dude this is Pattaya. There are agogo bars then there is the real world. Never heard of price having anything to do with looks. If that was the case then the best looking girl at the gogo bar would cost more than the worst looking girl. But we know they both cost the same.

Explorer8939
11-28-23, 03:05
If I get right, I would disagree? A report I wrote in 2008 in regards to Pattaya going down hill. Interesting 15 year ago I would like to see what I wrote in regards to the good old days so I can respond properly.

What I do know 15 years ago I wouldn't be waiting for Bolt for an hour.My point was that someone posted here in 2008 that Pattaya was not as good in 2008 as in the Good Old Days. It's a recurring theme among older mongers. That The Old Days Were Better.

This is simply because the human brain normally retains good memories, and forgets the bad.

Such posts are a waste of time. If you trace them back, you will find guys in 1975 posting that the days when Pattaya was just jungle with a few huts were better.

Having said that, Pattaya was pretty good during Covid when the bars were closed, and ladies had no money. Or when bars opened secretly (in upstairs rooms). Ladies used to walk around naked and stick their pussies in the face of the few customers.

But I digress.

Explorer8939
11-28-23, 03:08
I can just imagine what she looked like.

I really don't get the point of bullshit posts like this, no decent looking woman is going 1200 LT. What a load of crap.Generally, you get what you pay for.

But.

Sometimes ladies will try to catch a Farang boyfriend, so they will sandbag themselves so that they have time to work the victim, sorry, customer, with the goal of securing a sponsor.

Raj Patela
11-28-23, 05:31
Dude this is Pattaya. There are agogo bars then there is the real world. Never heard of price having anything to do with looks. If that was the case then the best looking girl at the gogo bar would cost more than the worst looking girl. But we know they both cost the same.At the end of every month they have a leaderboard with barfine results.

In every establishment the Worst looking Girl has No Barfine. If they cost the same why would anyone take an Ugly Mugly.

Caveat you not sure of Service Quality. Hahaha 🤣. In a year the Mugly might get one barFine outlier who thinks Mugly equal s 🐕8205;129466; service 🐕8205;129466;.

LittleBigMan
11-28-23, 10:04
My point was that someone posted here in 2008 that Pattaya was not as good in 2008 as in the Good Old Days. It's a recurring theme among older mongers. That The Old Days Were Better.

This is simply because the human brain normally retains good memories, and forgets the bad.

Such posts are a waste of time. If you trace them back, you will find guys in 1975 posting that the days when Pattaya was just jungle with a few huts were better.

Having said that, Pattaya was pretty good during Covid when the bars were closed, and ladies had no money. Or when bars opened secretly (in upstairs rooms). Ladies used to walk around naked and stick their pussies in the face of the few customers.

But I digress.Thanks for the clarification in length what I saw was " LBM " would disgree " it is human nature to go back and think about the good old days whatever the reason people do it in all different ways and age.

It won't end just like the endless convrrdation about price, looks the list is long and nothing is ever to change it.

I agree what is the point but I do go back and think about many of the rock my world experiences. I also think find a alternative to bolt on busy weekends LOL.

EihTooms
11-28-23, 11:00
Dude this is Pattaya. There are agogo bars then there is the real world. Never heard of price having anything to do with looks. If that was the case then the best looking girl at the gogo bar would cost more than the worst looking girl. But we know they both cost the same.Well, yes, the barfine for the best looker and the worst looker is generally the same. But even if we assume some weird gogo bar rule that is actually enforced where every girl in the bar must agree to and collect the exact same 3,000 baht or whatever with every ST customer who takes them (a gogo bar rule that I have never encountered) then I suppose the best looker and the worst looker would "cost the same. ".

But I would bet the farm the best looker gets taken by a customer many, many times more often on those terms than the worst looker. Like maybe 1-2 times a night vs 1-2 times per month. And the latter by customers with a strange fetish for unattractive women or suffering from really bad eyesight. I would also bet the farm that the best lookers and the worst lookers are not exactly shouting out, waving over, jumping on or being responded to by the same customers very often either, if ever. So even in some fantasy world where they do "cost the same" that doesn't mean every dude gets a Yes to take the best looker for that or any price.

After hours and off days? If the best lookers in Pattaya gogo bars are routinely providing no discussion BBFS+CIP all-nighter LTs for 1,200 baht then for gods sake don't anybody tell them about the Pattaya BJ Bars, Massage Shops or anything at all about what they could make just a 2 hour bus ride up the coast! LOL. Either that or the best looking Pattaya gogo bar girls are even less attractive than I have observed them to be over the years.

MartinFlevo
11-28-23, 12:04
Was in Pattaya early November together with Franky!

My take aways?

* High / low season is a thing of the past. That's related to Europeans / Americans going to Pattaya and they demographics have changed a LOT. Farang are a minority now by far!

* Ibar / Insomnia now just indians and arabs.

* Did someone already notice there are now more indian clubs than others in WS?

* MOre than 12 venues are empty or for sales in WS.

* TreeTown is still death. Wonder how long this stays there.

* New Mythnidght was better. More ladies and customers. Great hotdog stand at the end by the way!

* Gogobars are weird. Can be busy one eve, empty the next. Seems people enter later anyway. Before 10 pm? Most are death.

* Prices are about the same as always. So yeah barfines increased in agogo but TF and other options are cheaper and for normal prices.

Did one LT for 2500 with a TF girl. Nice face but a bit chubby. However fun girl. Started to ask money when home so now block list.

Had 2 excellent sessions at a normal massageshop at 2nd road. 2nd time anal and all the way. Would repeat for sure. Did overpay a lot but whatever. Was my last day!

Did a few ST's for normal 1500. Nothing special.

GC? Catflaps is busy and big. LOt of girls. Not my cup of tea.

Amsterdam - Definitely one of my goto places. Small few girls but not pushy and good prices.

For agogos? Tantra is my personal favorite. Can have a lot of fun there or with Franky who was named Scorpion King the last day we went a bit wild there. Nice looking girls, not too pushy for drinks and the managers / owners are good people.

Windmill of course never disappoints and should be on everyones list.

KINK? Did once but its getting tooo. Much.

EverythingThai
11-28-23, 14:52
So, I was finally able to complete this mission. Here goes. I saw this girl on You Tube. She was in some Malaysian guy's video. As soon as I saw her, I said to myself, that must be the hottest girl I have ever seen on Soi 6. The video was shot in Repent Bar. Photos of her in Repent are attached. Last night I set out on my way to try to find her. Alas when I arrived at Repent bar to ask for her, they said she had changed bars. My heart dropped down in my chest in disappointment. I knew the girls never stay in the same spot for long, especially girls like her. She belongs in Walking Street that's for sure. Then out of thin air, one of the girls says, she has moved to another bar and tells me the name. It's just 3 doors down. Off I go. When I arrive, I ask for her and she is upstairs changing. When she comes down she is in some Thai traditional dress because of Loy Katong. We greet each other and then she decides to go change again. She comes back in this stunning black dress with a kind of see through material in the back. Wow is all I can say. She was even more stunning than in the videos or in the photos I am about to post.

After that we change seats to a larger table. Here as promised, I began to initiate the plan. I gave 4000 Baht in 100's to the lady manager and bought 40 shots. You can see the photo. Then we drank and played around in the bar. Around 11 PM I bar fined her. Most of Soi 6 charge 2000-2500 Baht for the bar fine before midnight. I paid my bill and we left for my place. The rest is history. She will go down in history as my top 2 of all time. In 14 years in Thailand. Most girls of her caliber are star fishes, but this one just loves to fuck. I thought she would say she likes Asian guys better when I asked her about her spec. Her answer was Asian guys have small dicks and I like big ones.

After a great night of fucking, in the morning she left and refused to take more money. I was like huh? Therefore, she got 2000 Bhat from her drink commissions, 40 x 50, and the 4000 Baht in 100's and that's it. Essentially meaning it was 4000 LT. Great night!

For anyone wanting intel about Soi 6, there are so many girls working there. Its insane.

AggieDad1
11-28-23, 16:04
Thanks for the clarification in length what I saw was " LBM " would disgree " it is human nature to go back and think about the good old days whatever the reason people do it in all different ways and age.

It won't end just like the endless convrrdation about price, looks the list is long and nothing is ever to change it.

I agree what is the point but I do go back and think about many of the rock my world experiences. I also think find a alternative to bolt on busy weekends LOL.You and E make good points. It is all about perspective. Having started my Asian adventures in Mainland China, where pussy can be expensive for expats, I am happy visiting Thailand. I just wish it wasn't such a long flight. I know from Houston Latin America and the Caribbean would be a lot closer, but damn I love those big smiles and skinny behinds.

MartinFlevo
11-28-23, 16:16
For anyone wanting intel about Soi 6, there are so many girls working there. Its insane.So you paid 40 drinks (a 200?) = 8. 000 THB + you gave her 4 K in 100. (that's 12 K total) and you paid a 2,5 K barfine. So 14,5 K for fucking a nice looking woman in Pattaya?

Dude. Good you had a great night and all. But of course why would she asked more? You already paid way too much (pattaya prices) for a lady?

Of course she fucked your brains out! She got 6 K from you (what's a nice rate for a soi6 lady for LT!

Take away for me: If you have a fantasy and the cash. Go for it. Even if it means you end up paying close to 15 K for LT?

DukesFord
11-28-23, 16:35
I saw that video, she hot, the guy started off talking to another girl, but then moved seats and sat with her. I'm glad she's their, I plan on going to seeing her in two weeks.


So, I was finally able to complete this mission. Here goes. I saw this girl on You Tube. She was in some Malaysian guy's video.

ElMexicant
11-28-23, 17:03
So, I was finally able to complete this mission. Here goes. I saw this girl on You Tube. She was in some Malaysian guy's video. As soon as I saw her, I said to myself, that must be the hottest girl I have ever seen on Soi 6. The video was shot in Repent Bar. Photos of her in Repent are attached. Last night I set out on my way to try to find her. Alas when I arrived at Repent bar to ask for her, they said she had changed bars. My heart dropped down in my chest in disappointment. I knew the girls never stay in the same spot for long, especially girls like her. She belongs in Walking Street that's for sure. Then out of thin air, one of the girls says, she has moved to another bar and tells me the name. It's just 3 doors down. Off I go. When I arrive, I ask for her and she is upstairs changing. When she comes down she is in some Thai traditional dress because of Loy Katong. We greet each other and then she decides to go change again. She comes back in this stunning black dress with a kind of see through material in the back. Wow is all I can say. She was even more stunning than in the videos or in the photos I am about to post.

After that we change seats to a larger table. Here as promised, I began to initiate the plan. I gave 4000 Baht in 100's to the lady manager and bought 40 shots. You can see the photo. Then we drank and played around in the bar. Around 11 PM I bar fined her. Most of Soi 6 charge 2000-2500 Baht for the bar fine before midnight. I paid my bill and we left for my place. The rest is history. She will go down in history as my top 2 of all time. In 14 years in Thailand. Most girls of her caliber are star fishes, but this one just loves to fuck. I thought she would say she likes Asian guys better when I asked her about her spec. Her answer was Asian guys have small dicks and I like big ones..I am for good reports with pics which you did very well. However, my advice is be very careful because your details and pics make you "not anonymous. " Get my drift? Unless, you don't give a rat's ass about being doxxed. Just take this as a hearty word to the wise.

EihTooms
11-28-23, 17:28
So, I was finally able to complete this mission. Here goes. I saw this girl on You Tube. She was in some Malaysian guy's video. As soon as I saw her, I said to myself, that must be the hottest girl I have ever seen on Soi 6. The video was shot in Repent Bar. Photos of her in Repent are attached. Last night I set out on my way to try to find her. Alas when I arrived at Repent bar to ask for her, they said she had changed bars. My heart dropped down in my chest in disappointment. I knew the girls never stay in the same spot for long, especially girls like her. She belongs in Walking Street that's for sure. Then out of thin air, one of the girls says, she has moved to another bar and tells me the name. It's just 3 doors down. Off I go. When I arrive, I ask for her and she is upstairs changing. When she comes down she is in some Thai traditional dress because of Loy Katong. We greet each other and then she decides to go change again. She comes back in this stunning black dress with a kind of see through material in the back. Wow is all I can say. She was even more stunning than in the videos or in the photos I am about to post.

After that we change seats to a larger table. Here as promised, I began to initiate the plan. I gave 4000 Baht in 100's to the lady manager and bought 40 shots. You can see the photo. Then we drank and played around in the bar. Around 11 PM I bar fined her. Most of Soi 6 charge 2000-2500 Baht for the bar fine before midnight. I paid my bill and we left for my place. The rest is history. She will go down in history as my top 2 of all time. In 14 years in Thailand. Most girls of her caliber are star fishes, but this one just loves to fuck. I thought she would say she likes Asian guys better when I asked her about her spec. Her answer was Asian guys have small dicks and I like big ones..Glad it worked out.

Of course, the experts here will remind you they can get that exact same girl any night of the week, no barfine, no Ladydrinks and no discussion, no hassle BBFS+CIP all night for 1,200 baht total. Have to kick her out the next afternoon. Hehe.

Explorer8939
11-28-23, 18:09
I can just imagine what she looked like.

I really don't get the point of bullshit posts like this, no decent looking woman is going 1200 LT. What a load of crap.So, the civvie nurse showed up to drink tonight. She says she worked bar in Ban Chang before Covid, but has been a civvie since.

If she spent money on silicon, she would be through the roof, but still good nevertheless.

At 28, I wasn't sure if she would respond to pussy licking, but she came in my mouth (pussy water), and turned out to be a determined cock sucker (meaning she liked it more than I did).

Not a bad night.

Member #4807
11-28-23, 19:45
You forgot to mention the ironing of clothes before they kick her out.


Glad it worked out.

Of course, the experts here will remind you they can get that exact same girl any night of the week, no barfine, no Ladydrinks and no discussion, no hassle BBFS+CIP all night for 1,200 baht total. Have to kick her out the next afternoon. Hehe.

Banana Boi
11-29-23, 02:10
Amsterdam - Definitely one of my goto places. Small few girls but not pushy and good prices.Is Minnie still there?

EverythingThai
11-29-23, 02:23
Glad it worked out.

Of course, the experts here will remind you they can get that exact same girl any night of the week, no barfine, no Ladydrinks and no discussion, no hassle BBFS+CIP all night for 1,200 baht total. Have to kick her out the next afternoon. Hehe.And don't forget, she will only go for 1000 Baht and clean the condo before she leaves LOL.

She told me she makes 150 K baht per month on Soi 6. I don't doubt it either.

EverythingThai
11-29-23, 02:25
I saw that video, she hot, the guy started off talking to another girl, but then moved seats and sat with her. I'm glad she's there, I plan on going to seeing her in two weeks.She's not in repent anymore mate.

EverythingThai
11-29-23, 02:28
I am for good reports with pics which you did very well. However, my advice is be very careful because your details and pics make you "not anonymous. " Get my drift? Unless, you don't give a rat's ass about being doxxed. Just take this as a hearty word to the wise.I could care less what you guys do. If noting else, people will go looking for her and she will get more business. I would agree if I was posting nude pics, but I am not. Good luck to any punter who wants to be a white knight and say some dude posted about you in a forum saying you were awesome. LOL. That won't get them anything for free from her.

LastJungle
11-29-23, 02:48
I'd last been in Thailand in 2018. Was there in 2017 and 2016 as well. But this time around the scene appears to have completely died. I spent 4 days in Pattaya walking up and down looking for a girl in bars, gogo clubs, freelancers, etc. It appears that the quality of the options available has seriously degraded. And I mean in terms of appearance. This was always somewhat of a struggle in 2016-2018 as most girls aren't worth it but you would find one, didn't take too long either. Now it appears they are completely unavailable. Not just Pattaya, I was in ko samui and chiang mai but I can't seem to find any girls I'm attracted to. I did see a few in chiang mai but they were already had some 50+ creeper (sorry guys, I'm 38) all over them.

Does anyone have any insight to what happened? The scene is alive but why are attractive girls no longer doing this? Are there new stigmas here or are people just going to tell me its onlyfans again? I don't buy that the average income of a girl on onlyfans is like 300/ month. That's like 2 boom booms for them and this is way easier and faster. What the hell is going on? It's not just Thailand, there is nothing back in nyc either!

EverythingThai
11-29-23, 03:03
So you paid 40 drinks (a 200?) = 8. 000 THB + you gave her 4 K in 100. (that's 12 K total) and you paid a 2,5 K barfine. So 14,5 K for fucking a nice looking woman in Pattaya?

Dude. Good you had a great night and all. But of course why would she asked more? You already paid way too much (pattaya prices) for a lady?

Of course she fucked your brains out! She got 6 K from you (what's a nice rate for a soi6 lady for LT!

Take away for me: If you have a fantasy and the cash. Go for it. Even if it means you end up paying close to 15 K for LT?Drinks are 150 Baht for ladies and they get 50 baht for each drink in commission. She is not going to get rich from the 2000 Baht in commission and the 4000 Bhat I gave her. That's only 6000 Baht. Yes the 40 drinks will also influence her salary after the 10 days, but who cares. If someone like you thinks that she got 6000 Baht and that's way too much. That's your opinion, but 6 K LT is not such an outrageous rate to pay for a girl like her unless you are an old timer who still thinks all prices should never rise, inflation only counts for the buyer and not the seller, and every girl is just a hole to stick your dick in and whether she is a 4 or a 10 the rates should be the same.

ElMexicant
11-29-23, 03:27
I could care less what you guys do. If noting else, people will go looking for her and she will get more business. I would agree if I was posting nude pics, but I am not. Good luck to any punter who wants to be a white knight and say some dude posted about you in a forum saying you were awesome. LOL. That won't get them anything for free from her.LOL. Not her. Girls nobody cares. They are already online front and center on the Soi 6 pages.

I am talking about you and yourself, unless you don't care if you are identified. Especially when it comes to Soi 6 bars and their bar managers love taking pics to show off on their pages. Those pics include customers which you already identified the bar, what the manager wore, who the manager is, your date of attendance, what occurred at the bar on that date, and of course "the girl" that you barfined. So. Now do you get my drift?

Stay safe. Be smart.

AggieDad1
11-29-23, 05:58
I'd last been in Thailand in 2018. Was there in 2017 and 2016 as well. But this time around the scene appears to have completely died. I spent 4 days in Pattaya walking up and down looking for a girl in bars, gogo clubs, freelancers, etc. It appears that the quality of the options available has seriously degraded. And I mean in terms of appearance. This was always somewhat of a struggle in 2016-2018 as most girls aren't worth it but you would find one, didn't take too long either. Now it appears they are completely unavailable. Not just Pattaya, I was in ko samui and chiang mai but I can't seem to find any girls I'm attracted to. I did see a few in chiang mai but they were already had some 50+ creeper (sorry guys, I'm 38) all over them.

Does anyone have any insight to what happened? The scene is alive but why are attractive girls no longer doing this? Are there new stigmas here or are people just going to tell me its onlyfans again? I don't buy that the average income of a girl on onlyfans is like 300/ month. That's like 2 boom booms for them and this is way easier and faster. What the hell is going on? It's not just Thailand, there is nothing back in nyc either!Birth rates in Thailand have been declining for decades, at the same time Thailand has become more affluent. So less girls with more choices. Also less girls, less pretty girls.

MartinFlevo
11-29-23, 07:15
That's only 6000 Baht. Yes the 40 drinks will also influence her salary after the 10 days, but who cares. If someone like you thinks that she got 6000 Baht and that's way too much. That's your opinion, but 6 K LT is not such an outrageous rate to pay for a girl like her unless you are an old timer who still thinks all prices should never rise, inflation only counts for the buyer and not the seller, and every girl is just a hole to stick your dick in and whether she is a 4 or a 10 the rates should be the same.6 K for is more than decent. Also in Pattaya. You seem to forget that the minimum wage is 15 K?

So yeah still. Why would she have asked more?

Anyway as said. Seems you spend a fair away of money but if you had a blast who cares! Bucketlist item. Check so well done mate!

MartinFlevo
11-29-23, 07:17
Is Minnie still there?Amsterdam? I'm a nightmare with names so without a face I don't know mate.

Banana Boi
11-29-23, 07:48
Amsterdam? I'm a nightmare with names so without a face I don't know mate.Can't believe I found the video. She's the skinnier and taller of the two girls.

https://youtu.be/GgVLSEU1oNc

Paolo99
11-29-23, 09:14
Can't believe I found the video. She's the skinnier and taller of the two girls.

https://youtu.be/GgVLSEU1oNcI past in front of the place a month ago, a girl who looked like her was sitting outside with two other girls.

I didn't see her face (she had her back facing me), but she was very slim with long dark hairs, I thought it was her.

MartinFlevo
11-29-23, 09:57
Can't believe I found the video. She's the skinnier and taller of the two girls.

https://youtu.be/GgVLSEU1oNcDidn't see her. However girls come and go.

Fun fact: Video from this guy actually work and drive a HUGE amount of customers to a bar.

PolyOrchid
11-29-23, 10:03
This new-to-Pattaya guy would like to know where said experts are finding these specials. Is it on Beach Road, social media, serendipity, or where?

Thanks in advance.


Glad it worked out.

Of course, the experts here will remind you they can get that exact same girl any night of the week, no barfine, no Ladydrinks and no discussion, no hassle BBFS+CIP all night for 1,200 baht total. Have to kick her out the next afternoon. Hehe.

Explorer8939
11-29-23, 11:41
I'd last been in Thailand in 2018. Was there in 2017 and 2016 as well. But this time around the scene appears to have completely died. I spent 4 days in Pattaya walking up and down looking for a girl in bars, gogo clubs, freelancers, etc. It appears that the quality of the options available has seriously degraded. And I mean in terms of appearance. This was always somewhat of a struggle in 2016-2018 as most girls aren't worth it but you would find one, didn't take too long either. Now it appears they are completely unavailable. Not just Pattaya, I was in ko samui and chiang mai but I can't seem to find any girls I'm attracted to. I did see a few in chiang mai but they were already had some 50+ creeper (sorry guys, I'm 38) all over them.

Does anyone have any insight to what happened? The scene is alive but why are attractive girls no longer doing this? Are there new stigmas here or are people just going to tell me its onlyfans again? I don't buy that the average income of a girl on onlyfans is like 300/ month. That's like 2 boom booms for them and this is way easier and faster. What the hell is going on? It's not just Thailand, there is nothing back in nyc either!This is an ongoing syndrome.

Guys posting today say Pattaya was better 10 years ago.

Guys posting 10 years ago say Pattaya was better 10 years before.

Guys posting in 1970 complained when the first bars opened, saying that the old days were better, you could just stay in a hut and have village ladies visit you.

Paolo99
11-29-23, 12:05
6 K for is more than decent. Also in Pattaya. You seem to forget that the minimum wage is 15 K?

So yeah still. Why would she have asked more?What he decides to pay in the bar is on him and has nothing to do with what she expects to get after spending the night with him.

She is not supposed to drop her fee just because he spent a lot in the bar.

It was still a nice move from the girl, she could have become greedy.

Raj Patela
11-29-23, 12:31
LOL. Not her. Girls nobody cares. They are already online front and center on the Soi 6 pages.

I am talking about you and yourself, unless you don't care if you are identified. Especially when it comes to Soi 6 bars and their bar managers love taking pics to show off on their pages. Those pics include customers which you already identified the bar, what the manager wore, who the manager is, your date of attendance, what occurred at the bar on that date, and of course "the girl" that you barfined. So. Now do you get my drift?

Stay safe. Be smart.I think they do care when their phot is clearly posted along with Comments like I Fucked her all night,. I made her Orgasm multiple times, She would have done Anal if requested, she sucked me off like a Hoover, etc.

MGavin
11-29-23, 15:11
Yeah saw your photos on a bar page with all the drinks you bought with 100 baht notes.

Good on you bud.

That's why we are here for.

I'll try her this week some time.


So, I was finally able to complete this mission. Here goes. I saw this girl on You Tube. She was in some Malaysian guy's video. As soon as I saw her, I said to myself, that must be the hottest girl I have ever seen on Soi 6. The video was shot in Repent Bar. Photos of her in Repent are attached. Last night I set out on my way to try to find her. Alas when I arrived at Repent bar to ask for her, they said she had changed bars. My heart dropped down in my chest in disappointment. I knew the girls never stay in the same spot for long, especially girls like her. She belongs in Walking Street that's for sure. Then out of thin air, one of the girls says, she has moved to another bar and tells me the name. It's just 3 doors down. Off I go. When I arrive, I ask for her and she is upstairs changing. When she comes down she is in some Thai traditional dress because of Loy Katong. We greet each other and then she decides to go change again. She comes back in this stunning black dress with a kind of see through material in the back. Wow is all I can say. She was even more stunning than in the videos or in the photos I am about to post.

EverythingThai
11-29-23, 20:23
Yeah saw your photos on a bar page with all the drinks you bought with 100 baht notes.

Good on you bud.

That's why we are here for.

I'll try her this week some time.Ya some photos and a cool video they made of her getting surprised. It's all good mate.

EverythingThai
11-29-23, 20:25
What he decides to pay in the bar is on him and has nothing to do with what she expects to get after spending the night with him.

She is not supposed to drop her fee just because he spent a lot in the bar.

It was still a nice move from the girl, she could have become greedy.My thoughts exactly. The bar bin being high does not normally warrant the girl waiving her ST or LT fee. However, some of these guys are more focused on the little details, they miss out on experiences in life. I don’t do this shit everyday. It all depends. Chers mate.

Raj Patela
11-30-23, 00:38
You know how rich people in America say they should be charged more in Taxes. They are free to pay more than what is owed. Do they-Never.

Well our Friend just maybe the One person who does pay $100,000 instead of $70,000 owed.

I'm sure he will hit Headlines the world over.

ElMexicant
11-30-23, 03:25
Back to my cheap ass 1500/ ST from WS GoGo bar girls BEFORE work. I figure that most long stays would have this advantage if they were really well known and somewhat decent looking and have a good reputation. Lucky bastards!

LastJungle
11-30-23, 03:35
Birth rates in Thailand have been declining for decades, at the same time Thailand has become more affluent. So less girls with more choices. Also less girls, less pretty girls.Not sure if I buy that for being the reason. The bars are still jam packed with girls just not good looking ones. Maybe it's the after effects of the pandemic, no tourists so many girls stopped, many girls never started. I don't really know but a subset of any population is going to have good looking girls. Why don't they do this? I see them working in malls and restaurants and hotels, but not that.

Raj Patela
11-30-23, 03:54
Got me a Thinking.

Say I spend 365 days in Thailand. $25 a day total in mostly Agogos, and Soi 6. No Barfines. That would be Extra.

Is $9,125 too much. Hahaha. That's a lot of Money.

LastJungle
11-30-23, 05:11
This is an ongoing syndrome.

Guys posting today say Pattaya was better 10 years ago.

Guys posting 10 years ago say Pattaya was better 10 years before.

Guys posting in 1970 complained when the first bars opened, saying that the old days were better, you could just stay in a hut and have village ladies visit you.To be honest I think people keep saying this for a reason and it's true. There is a steady increase in stigma here (similar to the west) and less are willing to do so. This gives an advantage to the less pretty girls, who would legitimately date a 60+ farang creeper (sorry, I'm 38). Getting paid for it is like a cherry on top. But a pretty thai girl? From my experiences the model types are hard to even get in your hotel room and only want quickie short time at boom boom hotel.

Raj Patela
11-30-23, 06:41
Now the Conundrum.

He rated 40 drink girl as top 2 of all time.

Definitely will Repeat, me thinks. But what does he pay? 50 drinks this time. Hahaha.

Just for discussion purposes. Please respond guys and we have to wait and see what he Thinks.

ElMexicant
11-30-23, 15:11
Got me a Thinking.

Say I spend 365 days in Thailand. $25 a day total in mostly Agogos, and Soi 6. No Barfines. That would be Extra.

Is $9,125 too much. Hahaha. That's a lot of Money.Trust me, if you spent 6 months straight in Thailand, you will not go out everyday. There is no need to. If you are well known and good rep, you will have a black book as long as 1-200 girls. There are other things to do to like working out and staying in shape or side hustles to make some extra cash. It's like thinking, people who live in Las Vegas go to strip clubs and casinos everyday. They don't. So much more else to life. Everything people talk about is definitely for tourists. I can't remember the last time I even sat under a 50 baht umbrella chair at the beach? Maybe 6 years ago. I don't find it entertaining like when I first came in 2011 and making it rain yee sip bahts. It doesn't mean long stays don't venture out to WS or Soi 6, once in awhile, but it's merely to get some exercise and see if anything is new. Which most of the time it isn't. Just the same girls older and fatter, plus the pizza at NY Diner iBar is now 99 baht instead of 89 with an hefty 20% tax. And rarely, the new girls are as good and anything in your black book. There problem with going out to the GoGos and Soi 6 all the time is the girls that give you the 1500 discount before work rate, see you, and now wants to sit for drinks at 200 baht a piece. If you are in this agreement with 7-10 girls in the same club, it then gets ridiculous. You will be spending at one club 1500-2000 on drinks just for them to say "Hi. " Remember there is no friendships here, it's all transactional if they know you are long stay.

ElMexicant
11-30-23, 15:34
Or else.

https://youtube.com/shorts/yuXUSyDNCQo?si=UHyMzuP-cXccWzci

Turgid
11-30-23, 17:07
This is an ongoing syndrome.

Guys posting today say Pattaya was better 10 years ago.

Guys posting 10 years ago say Pattaya was better 10 years before.

Guys posting in 1970 complained when the first bars opened, saying that the old days were better, you could just stay in a hut and have village ladies visit you.My entire life I've been an avid girl watcher. Girls in the States in the 60's, 70's and 80's were amazing. To those who say they are no different today I retort that I did photography in the 80's and 90's and have numerous photos to prove my point. Back then a fat girl was an aberration, now they are the norm. Guys in their 20's and 30's know no different and seem to be happy dating big girls. Big and beautiful seem to be a thing today, not back then.

KrumeLurer
11-30-23, 18:04
I'd last been in Thailand in 2018. Was there in 2017 and 2016 as well. But this time around the scene appears to have completely died. I spent 4 days in Pattaya walking up and down looking for a girl in bars, gogo clubs, freelancers, etc. It appears that the quality of the options available has seriously degraded. And I mean in terms of appearance. This was always somewhat of a struggle in 2016-2018 as most girls aren't worth it but you would find one, didn't take too long either. Now it appears they are completely unavailable. Not just Pattaya, I was in ko samui and chiang mai but I can't seem to find any girls I'm attracted to. I did see a few in chiang mai but they were already had some 50+ creeper (sorry guys, I'm 38) all over them.

Does anyone have any insight to what happened? The scene is alive but why are attractive girls no longer doing this? Are there new stigmas here or are people just going to tell me its onlyfans again? I don't buy that the average income of a girl on onlyfans is like 300/ month. That's like 2 boom booms for them and this is way easier and faster. What the hell is going on? It's not just Thailand, there is nothing back in nyc either!The top lookers are in the gogos where Koreans and Japanese go. ST is 3000 baht. LT is 5000-6000. Barfines in gogos are 1500-2000 baht. So that means that you are even paying more for ST with one of them than you would pay in some western countries.

There used to be better looking girls in bars but they have been detected by scouting groups that works for agencys. They see a cute girl in bar and they seek her out and tell her that she should instead come and work for them in a gogo and ask 3000ST. Not the 1200-1500 she was asking before. This has been going on for some years now. There are even karoke bars and clubs full of Koreans, rich Chinese etc that only hire top lookers. They don't even turn to westerners. Koreans pay the same money they would pay in their own country, they don't care.

AlgoCreeper4
11-30-23, 20:01
Anybody take Prep while out on a vacation?? Thinking about getting a week worth for my trip in March, hoping little cutie at Roxy will still be there.

Davey1965
11-30-23, 23:46
Or else.

https://youtube.com/shorts/yuXUSyDNCQo?si=UHyMzuP-cXccWzciGood one !!

LastJungle
12-01-23, 02:42
The top lookers are in the gogos where Koreans and Japanese go. ST is 3000 baht. LT is 5000-6000. Barfines in gogos are 1500-2000 baht. So that means that you are even paying more for ST with one of them than you would pay in some western countries.

There used to be better looking girls in bars but they have been detected by scouting groups that works for agencys. They see a cute girl in bar and they seek her out and tell her that she should instead come and work for them in a gogo and ask 3000ST. Not the 1200-1500 she was asking before. This has been going on for some years now. There are even karoke bars and clubs full of Koreans, rich Chinese etc that only hire top lookers. They don't even turn to westerners. Koreans pay the same money they would pay in their own country, they don't care.Was at the gogo bars too on walking street. Awful selection. Which karaoke bars have hot girls only?

Sky Ryder
12-01-23, 03:38
To be honest I think people keep saying this for a reason and it's true. There is a steady increase in stigma here (similar to the west) and less are willing to do so. This gives an advantage to the less pretty girls, who would legitimately date a 60+ farang creeper (sorry, I'm 38). Getting paid for it is like a cherry on top. But a pretty thai girl? From my experiences the model types are hard to even get in your hotel room and only want quickie short time at boom boom hotel.I have to admit that I find your references to those gentlemen that happen to be a few years senior to yourself as "creepers" offensive to say the least. And your statement that you are "sorry" is anything but genuine, to be honest. I will however take great pleasure in the knowledge that if you are so fortunate to live that long, you will also join the group you call "creepers", and somehow I doubt you will see yourself in that frame of reference. I suspect you will spend hours chasing girls of the age of your grand daughters and telling the tall tales of your youth. I also suspect that younger men also see you as a younger version of a "creeper". They are only 25 and not sorry at all. With experience sometimes comes perspective.

All the above was intended to be TIC. Mostly.

Mr Enternational
12-01-23, 05:56
Trust me, if you spent 6 months straight in Thailand, you will not go out everyday. There is no need to. If you are well known and good rep, you will have a black book as long as 1-200 girls. There are other things to do to like working out and staying in shape or side hustles to make some extra cash. It's like thinking, people who live in Las Vegas go to strip clubs and casinos everyday. They don't. So much more else to life.And these chicks think you are just sitting around waiting to boom boom and they can hit you up to get money on demand. As if you do not have other things going on in your life. I do not need McDonald's calling me up asking if I want them to bring hamburgers over. When I am hungry I will call and place my order.

My boom boom hours are around 10 pm right before I go to sleep and in the morning right when I wake up. That is why 99% of the time I do LT and it is at night. Another reason I like dealing with chicks that have a normal daytime job that have to get up and go to work in the morning. 11 am and a chick just hit me up to come over. Bich I am busy. You know my boom boom hours.

Downandup
12-01-23, 08:46
Anybody take Prep while out on a vacation?? Thinking about getting a week worth for my trip in March, hoping little cutie at Roxy will still be there.Yes, I did on my last trip as I was hoping for a lot more bareback than I got. It was probably not something that I needed as I was not going with ladyboys or twinks yet you never know if that cute girl who does not ask for a condom has done that one too many times.

MartinFlevo
12-01-23, 09:58
This is an ongoing syndrome.

Guys posting today say Pattaya was better 10 years ago.

Guys posting 10 years ago say Pattaya was better 10 years before.

Guys posting in 1970 complained when the first bars opened, saying that the old days were better, you could just stay in a hut and have village ladies visit you.Hey Pattaya is still a great destination however it has nothing to do with a "syndrome" to see the city is changing over time. If its better or worse well that depends per person and their ability to adopt to these changes?

Fact: since covid there is a major shift in demographics of the tourist in Thailand that have a HUGE impact on the city.

* Less Westerns and more couples / families of western countries.

* The rise of Asian tourist (arab / indian).

* More koreans who go there for a long weekend (just a few hour flight) who just have a different spend behaviour than most westerns.

* Increase in salaries after covid (due to lack of girls in 2022 - higher salaries - higher barfines - higher prices for LD).

* We now even see an increase in kickback for drinks (from 50 THB precovid to 100 THB now in Pinup as an example).

The effect on someones holiday is of course depending on what he does?

If you are into freelancers / Thaifriendly / beachroad or whatever you won't find a big impact. You can still find enough girls for the precovid prices and there are plenty of girls.

If you are into agogos the impact is probably the biggest because of the increase in barfines and prices for ladydrinks.

And yeah with the increase in salaries and all. Some girls don't go ST / LT that easy as before.

So did Pattaya change? Hell yeah!

Was it better before? Hmmm I would say it was more EASY before. Now you just have to be more "price aware".

LastJungle
12-01-23, 14:45
I have to admit that I find your references to those gentlemen that happen to be a few years senior to yourself as "creepers" offensive to say the least. And your statement that you are "sorry" is anything but genuine, to be honest. I will however take great pleasure in the knowledge that if you are so fortunate to live that long, you will also join the group you call "creepers", and somehow I doubt you will see yourself in that frame of reference. I suspect you will spend hours chasing girls of the age of your grand daughters and telling the tall tales of your youth. I also suspect that younger men also see you as a younger version of a "creeper". They are only 25 and not sorry at all. With experience sometimes comes perspective.

All the above was intended to be TIC. Mostly.Sorry but it just looks silly. I don't even like to be seen with them at my current age even though it may appear just a bit more innocent. When you're looking at a 60+ guy with a Thai girl 40 years younger it's really obvious what's going on here. Apologies for being judgmental, I am being judgmental, but you have to admit it looks silly and I go out of my way to make it look less silly or so that nobody sees it. I feel it's disrespectful to this beautiful country to come here simply for a cheap lay. One time in chiang mai some Thai guy on a bicycle rode past me and said something in Thai, I don't know what it was but it had "boom-boom" in the statement. I was alone, with nobody. He saw a white guy alone and he probably said oh look another farang here just for boom boom. I suggest you become a bit more self conscious of what you're doing and that some locals may find it disrespectful. There's plenty of countries with trash people and trash cultures that I wouldn't mind shitting all over. This is not one of them.

Tvataham274
12-01-23, 15:12
Anybody take Prep while out on a vacation?? Thinking about getting a week worth for my trip in March, hoping little cutie at Roxy will still be there.Yes, I'm waiting for my doc to write me a script for my trip in a few months. Not a fan of butt stuff or ladyboys, but I consider it insurance for if I do BB. I don't know what I would end up doing if I have too much to drink to remember, so it's a good, lossless insurance.

Paolo99
12-01-23, 17:23
When you're looking at a 60+ guy with a thai girl 40 years younger it's really obvious what's going on here.Back in 1997, the first time I came in Thailand, we could see old white dudes (older than 70) walking hand in hand with young Thai teenagers (Thai boys) in the malls like Royal Garden. You think Thai nationals didn't know what was going on then? You would have a heart attack if you saw them.


I feel it's disrespectful to this beautiful country to come here simply for a cheap lay.
I suggest you become a bit more self conscious of what you're doing and that some locals may find it disrespectful. There's plenty of countries with trash people and trash cultures that I wouldn't mind shitting all over. This is not one of them.Pattaya is not for you, why would you want to go there and change it the way you would like it to be?

There are plenty of other places you could go in Thailand and feel like you're not disrespecting the locals. For example: Phuket City is a nice place with few tourists and little prostitution. You could respect the locals as much as you want and then visit the whole island without seeing "disrespectful" foreigners.

And just to let you know, Pattaya is really full of trash Thai nationals too, not just foreigners.

Turgid
12-01-23, 17:52
I have to admit that I find your references to those gentlemen that happen to be a few years senior to yourself as "creepers" offensive to say the least. And your statement that you are "sorry" is anything but genuine, to be honest. I will however take great pleasure in the knowledge that if you are so fortunate to live that long, you will also join the group you call "creepers", and somehow I doubt you will see yourself in that frame of reference. I suspect you will spend hours chasing girls of the age of your grand daughters and telling the tall tales of your youth. I also suspect that younger men also see you as a younger version of a "creeper". They are only 25 and not sorry at all. With experience sometimes comes perspective.

All the above was intended to be TIC. Mostly.My take is that some younger mongers resent the fact that there are septuagenarians banging the same girls that they are and probably doing a better job at it as well. We older guys need to take better care of our bodies to be able to do that. My days of getting piss drunk and burning the candle at both ends are over.

The Cane
12-01-23, 18:12
My take is that some younger mongers resent the fact that there are septuagenarians banging the same girls that they are.I recall seeing a post on this site a long time ago from a younger monger who had the gall to say that older mongers should fuck women their own age! WTF? What a load of self-serving BS! Let's see if he's saying the same thing 20 or 30 years from now. Will probably be hooked up and weighed down by some demanding old hag with a stiffy yearning for younger pussy (and realizing how stupid he was back then). Oh, the unlearned arrogance and ignorance of youth!

Ebauche
12-01-23, 19:22
We all are visiting one of the most notorious fleshpots in the world. Why would we be concerned about what "looks silly?" Sounds to me more that you're struggling with your own puritanical guilt, and projecting onto others the misgivings you yourself seem to feel about engaging in pay-for-play activities.

We all have our preferences, what gets our juices flowing. Some, regardless of age, desire pretty young things as you reference. My frequent wingman MUST have huge tits, preferably fake. I don't get it, but that's what he likes. I prefer a 30-40 year old, preferably engaged for my entire visit, to completely pamper me inside and outside of the bedroom. Helps if she has world class head skills.

You apparently want, above all, to appear as if all of this transactional sex in a city & country notorious for transactional sex, to be "normal. ".


Sorry but it just looks silly. I don't even like to be seen with them at my current age even though it may appear just a bit more innocent. When you're looking at a 60+ guy with a thai girl 40 years younger it's really obvious what's going on here. Apologies for being judgemental, I am being judgemental, but you have to admit it looks silly and I go out of my way to make it look less silly or so that nobody sees it. I feel it's disrespectful to this beautiful country to come here simply for a cheap lay. One time in chiang mai some thai guy on a bicycle rode past me and said something in thai, I don't know what it was but it had "boom-boom" in the statement. I was alone, with nobody. He saw a white guy alone and he probably said oh look another farang here just for boom boom. I suggest you become a bit more self conscious of what you're doing and that some locals may find it disrespectful. There's plenty of countries with trash people and trash cultures that I wouldn't mind shitting all over. This is not one of them.

Bang4444
12-01-23, 19:37
First night, no action. Tired due to travel.

Second night. I want to try soapy massage places. Around 11 Went to Honey 2 first. Lot of ladies. Somehow I found most of them having big boobs. Mostly Si I guess. Anyway didn't find any of my liking. (price range starts 2200 with red).

Checked nearby Sabai dee. There collection was worse.

So, went to PP massage, there I found much better collection. Chosen one yellow category (3300). Don't remember name. Number 77 if I remember.

I found her friendly and very good.

Third night. Late afternoon, checked sabai Dee first. Again disappointed. Didn't want to go Honey 2, but still I checked before going anywhere else.

One girl I like this time from Red category (2200).

Somehow I liked her facial expressions and went for second with 700 extra.

Hope to return Pattaya soon.

Banana Boi
12-01-23, 20:49
Was at the gogo bars too on walking street. Awful selection. Can you let us know which gogo bars on Walking Street you walked in to?

Belvaros
12-01-23, 23:57
I have to admit that I find your references to those gentlemen that happen to be a few years senior to yourself as "creepers" offensive to say the least. And your statement that you are "sorry" is anything but genuine, to be honest. I will however take great pleasure in the knowledge that if you are so fortunate to live that long, you will also join the group you call "creepers", and somehow I doubt you will see yourself in that frame of reference. I suspect you will spend hours chasing girls of the age of your grand daughters and telling the tall tales of your youth. I also suspect that younger men also see you as a younger version of a "creeper". They are only 25 and not sorry at all. With experience sometimes comes perspective.

All the above was intended to be TIC. Mostly.A+.

My GF in Bangkok is 22, I am in my 50's (pass for mis 40's I'm rold, meh), anyway, she gets hit on all the time and just prefers the "safety" with me. Also likes the security and lifestyle.

MANY much younger ladies adore me. Hansum man, LOL. When I was 45 I had 18-19 year old Arab girls chasing me, had a 22 year old GF. Then again I have had partners older than me, some looked dramatically younger (US missus). My father in law in USA was 25 years older than his wife but he had the most ridiculous genes that he could pass for 50 when he was 73.

Thai ladies on the game in many cases treat this like a job, and like to make it as easy as possible for themselves to extract our $ in the safest possible way and they often think us older guys have more $$.

If one is very nice and enjoyable company no age difference will be too much. Ask Mick Jagger's women over time. Some ladies like Daddy figures be they Thai, African, AA, other Asian or even Westerners, but of course, most, indeed almost all will be more attracted to the young man with game or $$$ or both plus looks.

All IMHO of course. YMMV.

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12-02-23, 02:39
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LastJungle
12-02-23, 02:55
Can you let us know which gogo bars on Walking Street you walked in to?I believe all the ones next to palace and Atlantis. In two of them I had a drink and waited for the stage to rotate but not one I was attracted to. Come to think of it I was in Pattaya from sun-wed. Maybe better luck is to be had on Fridays and Saturdays as I finally managed to land a new girl in chiang mai last night. She told me she only works on Fridays. She wound up to be 38, I kept paying her for extras. Quoted at 3000 + 500 barfine but in total I gave her 12 k. Was a lot of raw sex and cumming in her mouth. No regrets here same as what I pay at home for an hour and she was a lot of fun. It was really hot she was willing to do anything if you bribe her.

Newton York
12-02-23, 03:44
Be careful what you wish.

I'm a full time resident here, and it can be a challenge to maximize your fun.

First off, if you fuck too much too quickly, you feel like joining the priesthood after a while. Sometimes I fuck ladies with similar bodies and techniques too many times (or worse, the same lady too many times), and get tired of them.

Or ladies with good bodies but no technique.

Thai ladies don't like to talk about sex, so it's hard to teach them anything.

And then there are ladies who fuck too much and are burned out. One lady who comes to my condo has a Thai husband, a full time Farang customer plus she works bar and goes with customers Short Time. So by the time she comes to my condo, things aren't good downstairs.Reading between the lines, it sounds like living in Thailand is just so full of sex, it's almost exhausting. That sounds awesome dude! God, I can't wait to go back.

Explorer8939
12-02-23, 04:45
Reading between the lines, it sounds like living in Thailand is just so full of sex, it's almost exhausting. That sounds awesome dude! God, I can't wait to go back.Ladies are so cheap in Pattaya that yes, you can fuck all you want.

The problem comes the inevitable burnout. And you get picky. For example, if I want a quick finish, I will have the lady do Cowboy, but 90% do it wrong, and I don't feel their pussy.

I am going to invest in training for some ladies, I will have a more experienced lady show them what to do.

Or, there are ladies who are truly horny, and don't want a quick finish. Like a US girlfriend. It becomes work after a while.

If the ladies are okay, I can do 2 a days for a few days before burnout hits. At 2000 baht a pop, it's not too expensive.

Captain Solo
12-02-23, 07:41
It's wild to know 20 Thai bar women ganged up and assaulted a client. It's a very particular Thai situation. I don't think it would happen in any other country.

Most Thais are known for being very nice, happy, respectful, restrained. I was having lunch in BKK, ran into a group of college students and male, female soldiers. Some female soldiers were seriously hot and pretty. We were flirting, talking, taking pictures. The girls were pretty, outgoing, sweet, had fun with me, including an obvious trans girl, tall, big, muscular with deep booming voice. I had a wonderful interaction with them, fond of the warm, fun, friendly nature of young people outside of sex tourist districts.

However, Thais can occasionally explode in violent temper when slighted or insulted. That's why they practice kick boxing just in case. Don't ever say anything about their monarchy.

I have seen groups of Thermae women seething with anger as a few Euro guys walked in the cafe one night. This Brits went to a Pattaya bar with his "GF," looks like a katoye to me in the pic. He probably complained about the bar women and compared them with his "GF," wrong move, insulted and got beat up by all 20 women, including may be a few muscular katoyes in the mix. Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned. The guy was left lying down bloody in the street, so it was a serious beating. Wonder if the bar owner and law enforcement took any actions against these women. In California those 20 women would definitely be booked for assault and battery, misdemeanor or felony depending on injuries, spend 1 to 30 days in jail, based on previous records. That conviction follows them all their lives, cause delays and difficulties in interactions with any governments all over the world, like with Customs and Immigration in any country they travel to.

In Mexico's most popular hooker bar Hong Kong, if guys get caught filming strippers or lesbian shows, jacking off next to strip stage, insulting or annoying bar girls ect, they would be removed quietly by security guys. If they resist, security would thrash them around a bit to subdue, but never injure them, put them into headlocks and drag them out to the street.

I have seen a few fist fights between guys over girls, when half a dozen security and waiters quickly swooped in to restrain the aggressive guys. They are well trained, very good and very quick at spotting and controlling violent outbreaks.

Also seen and heard of vicious cat fight between bar girls over ballers with hair, nails, bikinis flying hehe, but never bar girls striking clients in the club. In any event, the scuffles were quiet, controlled and wrapped up in 5 to 10 minutes max. Everyone gets back to kissing and groping their girls like nothing happened.

Knowing a few extremely violent and murderous cartels capos also play in HK, I still feel safe and secure that I will not be harmed in that club. Back a few years ago I sat at the bar next to a nice, clean, good-looking young guys, watching the strip show, he was sitting there by himself watching the strip show with his glassy gaze, not drinking, smoking or doing anything. Saw HK's meseros and putas give him his wide space, then HK's entire management team line up, bow their heads, shake his hand. He shook their hands not saying anything, not even looking back at them. I figured he was a hot shot and scanned the club looking for his bodyguards but did not find any. With his arrests and pictures in the news later, I found out the guy was Ovidio de Guzman, middle son of El Chapo, then head of the Sinaloa cartel, the largest and most violent drugs trafficking organized crime group in Mexico.

There were other hot shot trafficos, looking mean and rough, playing in HK with bodyguards packing Mac-10 auto pistols, throwing hundreds to thousands dollars tips on strippers and bar girls. But everything was cool, civil and orderly. Nobody was beating up or shooting others over personal issues.

I sat and drank with Euro guys in titties bars. Some of them can be very vocal and rude on any subject. While truths, honesty and straight talking are appreciated, they can get people in troubles with strangers, but with just a little bit of tact they can become popular with any audience. Guys should share their honesty and truths only within well-known circle of friends whose judgments they can trust and reactions they can predict.

Here are pics of Rainy near Sukhumvit and a trans Euro in Khaosan area.


Just in General.

That slogan is Land of Smiles, but as many know criticism isn't one of their strong suits. Living with Thais I myself have seen countless situations where you think the mildest of personalities in a woman.

Then all of a sudden it happens they go off like a time bomb this is the same with the men. Men, I label them silently their actions as may be small dick syndrome (ego) I encounter them on the road each day tailgating my bike or vehicle even when I have a right to the road or can't go any faster because there is an obstruction in front of me. Their brains are so small that they react without thinking and then make some lame excuse for their action.

I look like one of them thus if I stare or get closer I'm not a threat. Many times curious I watch to see how long is it going to take for the explosion. I've seen women go off-throw knives, men beat the women as if they were in a MMA match. It is sad at the same time entertaining. Living here is like being close to a volcano ready to erupt.

From my sources, Paradise for those who know the place isn't loaded with stunners this Brit did not know how sensitive Thais are went in, started buying drinks then, complained about it being watered down, and then the prices. Looking for a threesome he took his older lady 35 compared to his late 20's, then told of the prices for BF for models vs agencies complaining that both categories of ladies weren't worth the pound and that many were too fat and had LB features, in fact, accused one of being one that he wouldn't pick or fuck any of them with the Thai door man small dick.

Of course, this went on and on finally to prove his point said he was going to take his iPhone out and take some shots to post and see if he was right that was the final straw that broke the camel's back as they say. While the volcano erupted Kaos (Not the GoGo) down the Soi the place was empty I did try to pay but go tired of waiting so I skipped. LOL! You can only expect Mai Pen Rai for so long then all of a sudden Boom Boom!

GatorAk
12-02-23, 12:25
I believe all the ones next to palace and Atlantis. In two of them I had a drink and waited for the stage to rotate but not one I was attracted to. Come to think of it I was in Pattaya from sun-wed. Maybe better luck is to be had on Fridays and Saturdays as I finally managed to land a new girl in chiang mai last night. She told me she only works on Fridays. She wound up to be 38, I kept paying her for extras. Quoted at 3000 + 500 barfine but in total I gave her 12 k. Was a lot of raw sex and cumming in her mouth. No regrets here same as what I pay at home for an hour and she was a lot of fun. It was really hot she was willing to do anything if you bribe her.After reading your other posts, it appears that you have been paying for sex for many years. Despite this, you seem delusional enough to not categorize yourself as one of the 'creepers' or a sex tourist visiting Thailand. I am 42, and when I see men with a hot, young woman, I smile and hope that one day, it will be me.

Dr Hong
12-02-23, 13:22
Or you're just another selfish westerner and don't even realize or care to even think about being respectful. Your #1 priority is a 30-40 year old to pamper you here the entire time that gives good head. Why don't you do it at home using seeking.com or similar? Cause you're cheap and selfish and you want a cheap lay so you fly out here. What I want is discretion so I can be respectful. I'm not going to lie and pretend that the locals don't mind at all. Take a look in the mirror, you're a 60+ creeper.You don't know Thailand very well. The locals don't mind at all. Especially in Pattaya. Thai's aren't ageist. Thousands of 20 yo Thai girls are fucking 60 and 70 yo Thai men. Many more than they are farang. Thai men don't walk around holding hands with them because its beneath them and they don't want to get into trouble with the wife. Its got nothing to do with respect.

The Cane
12-02-23, 13:54
Ladies are so cheap in Pattaya that yes, you can fuck all you want. The problem comes the inevitable burnout.Another monger here told me how he'll be having sex and thinking about what he's going to have for dinner that night! I've never had a desire to live around a bunch of money grubbing tutes 24/7 365 days a year. Too much of a good thing LOL! I know from vicarious learning that I'm much better off taking well planned trips and going on back home. The scarcity that comes from having to fly to get it versus just strolling down the street to get me some. Keeps you coming back and hard!

LittleBigMan
12-02-23, 15:17
I believe all the ones next to palace and Atlantis. In two of them I had a drink and waited for the stage to rotate but not one I was attracted to. Come to think of it I was in Pattaya from sun-wed. Maybe better luck is to be had on Fridays and Saturdays as I finally managed to land a new girl in chiang mai last night. She told me she only works on Fridays. She wound up to be 38, I kept paying her for extras. Quoted at 3000 + 500 barfine but in total I gave her 12 k. Was a lot of raw sex and cumming in her mouth. No regrets here same as what I pay at home for an hour and she was a lot of fun. It was really hot she was willing to do anything if you bribe her.Sounds like Tantra.

Mr Enternational
12-02-23, 16:03
Or you're just another selfish westerner and don't even realize or care to even think about being respectful. Your #1 priority is a 30-40 year old to pamper you here the entire time that gives good head. Why don't you do it at home using seeking.com or similar? Cause you're cheap and selfish and you want a cheap lay so you fly out here. What I want is discretion so I can be respectful. I'm not going to lie and pretend that the locals don't mind at all. Take a look in the mirror, you're a 60+ creeper.Seems you mean it as a put down but it is really a compliment. I asked a guy in another thread what is wrong with being cheap and what is wrong with being selfish after he tried the same thing. He never answered. You care to take a stab at it? Because from his point of view there was no problem with my girlfriend being selfish when it came to sharing me with other women, but there was a problem with me being selfish for not wanting to shower hookers with my riches. Why is one selfish acceptable, but another not?

As for being cheap, instead of buying stuff here in Thailand from Lazada, I should buy the same damn shit for more back in the States from Amazon in order to not be cheap? Well look what came today. 1100 baht on Lazada and $119 on Amazon. What would it have benefitted me to pay 3 times the price from Amazon, besides that honorable badge of not being cheap?

If the locals minded, this place would not be here.

Raj Patela
12-02-23, 16:12
Sounds like Tantra.Tantra has maybe 1 almost pretty Hot Girl. I like her.

Post Covida.

Explorer8939
12-02-23, 16:20
Another monger here told me how he'll be having sex and thinking about what he's going to have for dinner that night! I've never had a desire to live around a bunch of money grubbing tutes 24/7 365 days a year. Too much of a good thing LOL! I know from vicarious learning that I'm much better off taking well planned trips and going on back home. The scarcity that comes from having to fly to get it versus just strolling down the street to get me some. Keeps you coming back and hard!Yeah, after a couple of weeks in Pattaya, I take a holiday with a Thai lady or two, now in Langkawi, Malaysia. I appreciate Pattaya a lot more after a hiatus.

Next week, I will be in Hong Kong bar, Tijuana, Mexico. Maybe I won't miss Pattaya for a while.

Rocko20
12-02-23, 16:40
Be careful what you wish.

I'm a full time resident here, and it can be a challenge to maximize your fun.
I agree. I took a 30 day vacation to Pattaya once, and was "burned out" of sex and partying by the 2-3rd week. It made me have more respect for those who lived there and were able to balance a normal life with the party life.

There is a limit to how much enjoyable sex and partying the body can handle at one time, for pleasure. Now if one is getting paid for it like a WG, that's different, they're doing it for "work. ".

For me, it was another lesson that it's good to have healthy hobbies (working out, diet, golf, sports, cars, boats, massages, travel) that aren't just sex and partying.

Turgid
12-02-23, 17:08
Or you're just another selfish westerner and don't even realize or care to even think about being respectful. Your #1 priority is a 30-40 year old to pamper you here the entire time that gives good head. Why don't you do it at home using seeking.com or similar? Cause you're cheap and selfish and you want a cheap lay so you fly out here. What I want is discretion so I can be respectful. I'm not going to lie and pretend that the locals don't mind at all. Take a look in the mirror, you're a 60+ creeper.As Maxwell Smart used to say - "And loving it".

CaliGuy33
12-02-23, 19:40
Another monger here told me how he'll be having sex and thinking about what he's going to have for dinner that night! I've never had a desire to live around a bunch of money grubbing tutes 24/7 365 days a year. Too much of a good thing LOL! I know from vicarious learning that I'm much better off taking well planned trips and going on back home. The scarcity that comes from having to fly to get it versus just strolling down the street to get me some. Keeps you coming back and hard!Well put, I agree wholeheartedly. I don't get how guys live in Pattaya. If I retired to Thailand I would choose a non-monger type destination like Chiang Mai or Krabi and just make monger trips to BKK and Pattaya whenever.

EverythingThai
12-02-23, 19:58
Thai Friendly is becoming a waste of time compared to a few months ago. The girls are getting so many messages and guys are asking for so many conditions for 1500 Bhat. The girl I was with tonight was telling me they are pathetic and cheap. I just told her that if they want to waste time messaging 100 girls to get their 1200 Baht BBFS CIP it's up to them. Therefore, I am recommending that guys coming to Pattaya this high season stick to the bars. Low season is the best time for TF. Get out to the bars and if you want a freelancer instead of a bar girl. Head to Republic or another club on walking street. High season is time to get back to old school dating face to face. Just my opinion guys if you come on holiday, don't waste away your high season sending a thousand messages on TF.

BackpackBrian
12-02-23, 20:25
Thai Friendly is becoming a waste of time compared to a few months ago. The girls are getting so many messages and guys are asking for so many conditions for 1500 Bhat. The girl I was with tonight was telling me they are pathetic and cheap. I just told her that if they want to waste time messaging 100 girls to get their 1200 Baht BBFS CIP it's up to them. Therefore, I am recommending that guys coming to Pattaya this high season stick to the bars. Low season is the best time for TF. Get out to the bars and if you want a freelancer instead of a bar girl. Head to Republic or another club on walking street. High season is time to get back to old school dating face to face. Just my opinion guys if you come on holiday, don't waste away your high season sending a thousand messages on TF.I was in Pattaya last August and it was pretty good. Good weather, prices I paid were between 800-1,000 for beach road girls and 1,200-1,500 for beer bar and Gentlemen's Club girls.

I didn't go with any Gogo bar girls but asked about prices in all the GG bars I walked into and they all quoted me about the same 4,500-5,000 baht.

How do you think this high season is going so far in terms of being more crowded than last year and have you seen any price increases?

I will be visiting in early January.

GatorAk
12-02-23, 21:10
Thai Friendly is becoming a waste of time compared to a few months ago. The girls are getting so many messages and guys are asking for so many conditions for 1500 Bhat. The girl I was with tonight was telling me they are pathetic and cheap. I just told her that if they want to waste time messaging 100 girls to get their 1200 Baht BBFS CIP it's up to them. Therefore, I am recommending that guys coming to Pattaya this high season stick to the bars. Low season is the best time for TF. Get out to the bars and if you want a freelancer instead of a bar girl. Head to Republic or another club on walking street. High season is time to get back to old school dating face to face. Just my opinion guys if you come on holiday, don't waste away your high season sending a thousand messages on TF.Girl posted an image of over her 2000 unread messages on TF and Line account each. These girls are getting spammed by guys not even in thailand for all sorts of requests.

MartinFlevo
12-02-23, 22:38
Tantra has maybe 1 almost pretty Hot Girl. I like her.

Post Covida.1? I could fuck easily 5-10 chicks there!

Banana Boi
12-02-23, 23:57
I agree. I took a 30 day vacation to Pattaya once, and was "burned out" of sex and partying by the 2-3rd week. It made me have more respect for those who lived there and were able to balance a normal life with the party life.You party hard for maybe 6-12 months then you take 1 night off per week where you just take one of your girls to dinner and a movie or something. I remember telling guys I was taking a night off from gogo bars and guys couldn't believe I was in Thailand and didn't feel like going out. Yep, different if you live here or anywhere long term. This was back when talent was amazing in gogo bars. These days I don't even think I could go out 4 nights a week in Pattaya if I lived there. Not enough new young cute talent to discover weekly.


There is a limit to how much enjoyable sex and partying the body can handle at one time, for pleasure.

Had a friend come to FKK clubs with me. He would only last 4 days because in order to justify the 60-80 euro entry fee he had to go with 4-5 girls each day. By day 4 he was toast.

Belvaros
12-03-23, 01:20
I agree. I took a 30 day vacation to Pattaya once, and was "burned out" of sex and partying by the 2-3rd week. It made me have more respect for those who lived there and were able to balance a normal life with the party life.

There is a limit to how much enjoyable sex and partying the body can handle at one time, for pleasure. Now if one is getting paid for it like a WG, that's different, they're doing it for "work. ".

For me, it was another lesson that it's good to have healthy hobbies (working out, diet, golf, sports, cars, boats, massages, travel) that aren't just sex and partying.I'm the opposite now, used to play / practice golf 10-12 hours a day, 6 days a week, go to the beach with my 5 dogs (all deceased now). Drive around a private golf course "track" in my tuned Porsche Turbo, walked daily, drank wine yada yada yada. Missed out on the international sex for 10 of the last 13 years. With the last 6 1/2 straight.

I'm going to be a baller until I pass on.

YMMV.

Belvaros
12-03-23, 05:45
TF is the bomb, so absolute BS from the ET guy. Use it as one should by putting in research. Bit like RTFF and it pays off handsomely but yes only contact girls when you want them almost immediately is best. In have 7 lasses lined in Pattaya next week from TF plus my regulars. ST from 1000-2000, LT from 2000-6 k.

YMMV.

Explorer8939
12-03-23, 05:55
Well put, I agree wholeheartedly. I don't get how guys live in Pattaya. If I retired to Thailand I would choose a non-monger type destination like Chiang Mai or Krabi and just make monger trips to BKK and Pattaya whenever.The upside of long term residence is having a wide assortment of ladies who will come to my condo.

Its kind of like Grab delivery. If I am in the mood for a spinner, I can message one to come over. Or if I want a silicon enhanced curvy type, there are plenty available.

I never use Thai Friendly, I just go with friendly Thais.

EverythingThai
12-03-23, 08:15
Girl posted an image of over her 2000 unread messages on TF and Line account each. These girls are getting spammed by guys not even in thailand for all sorts of requests.Thats my point. They can't keep up with the messages so good customers are not being taken care of.

EverythingThai
12-03-23, 08:17
I was in Pattaya last August and it was pretty good. Good weather, prices I paid were between 800-1,000 for beach road girls and 1,200-1,500 for beer bar and Gentlemen's Club girls.

I didn't go with any Gogo bar girls but asked about prices in all the GG bars I walked into and they all quoted me about the same 4,500-5,000 baht.

How do you think this high season is going so far in terms of being more crowded than last year and have you seen any price increases?

I will be visiting in early January.My post had nothing to do with prices being too high or too low. Thew girls are getting so many messages now and guys are talking about so many things. One guy in my girl's messages sent over 100 messages trying to convince her to do BBFS CIP for 1500 Baht because it feels so good to him loi.

EverythingThai
12-03-23, 08:23
Well put, I agree wholeheartedly. I don't get how guys live in Pattaya. If I retired to Thailand I would choose a non-monger type destination like Chiang Mai or Krabi and just make monger trips to BKK and Pattaya whenever.The long time expats like myself who have lived in Pattaya for a long time, stay in areas, such as Jomtien, Pratamnak, or on the dark side. It's away from all the chaos and when you want to go to the bars, it's only a 10 minute bolt away. Pratamanak for example is very quiet.

ElMexicant
12-03-23, 12:53
Thats my point. They can't keep up with the messages so good customers are not being taken care of.


Girl posted an image of over her 2000 unread messages on TF and Line account each. These girls are getting spammed by guys not even in thailand for all sorts of requests.I don't buy it. I use a FREE ACCOUNT on ThaiFriendly. Every girl I message for ST has responded with a LINE account, a price, or to tell me "I no freelance (only 3 girls) out of 4 pages. " Maybe they like my personal pics, maybe I am using stolen pics of Kim Tae-hyung to bait them, maybe the girls like my profile or what I write, or just maybe I know the Pattaya game all too well. Who the fuck knows? But I must be doing something right. And I know these girls work in a "network" as opposed to a bunch of random individual girls that most newbies think it is. ThaiFriendly is very much alive. All you got to do is put in your title (In Pattaya now 1. 500 short plus taxi). They will come. If you want to the for sure response from the TF girls, only include ONE photo in your profile with you holding about 100,000 baht fanned out. You WILL get a response, count on it.

By the way. Any Pattaya vets know where the 50 baht chicken kebab roll is sold? I do.

EverythingThai
12-03-23, 16:20
I don't buy it. I use a FREE ACCOUNT on ThaiFriendly. Every girl I message for ST has responded with a LINE account, a price, or to tell me "I no freelance (only 3 girls) out of 4 pages. " Maybe they like my personal pics, maybe I am using stolen pics of Kim Tae-hyung to bait them, maybe the girls like my profile or what I write, or just maybe I know the Pattaya game all too well. Who the fuck knows? But I must be doing something right. And I know these girls work in a "network" as opposed to a bunch of random individual girls that most newbies think it is. ThaiFriendly is very much alive. All you got to do is put in your title (In Pattaya now 1. 500 short plus taxi). They will come. If you want to the for sure response from the TF girls, only include ONE photo in your profile with you holding about 100,000 baht fanned out. You WILL get a response, count on it.

By the way. Any Pattaya vets know where the 50 baht chicken kebab roll is sold? I do.I don't buy it. You are not here now and most of these are probably older messages or from during the weekdays before high season. But, crack on mate. If you want to waste all sorts of time waiting 10 minutes between messages and messaging hundreds of girls, that's up to you. During this time, I choose to recommend punters to get out to the bars. TF will be back to normal again and not so much of a crap. Shoot. I only message girls that I want to meet right at that time. I don't waste time asking them to meet me later. That practice is only for time wasters.

This was the result of my 2500 baht PSE session from Sat night from TF. Ya ya. I don't want to hear the nonsense about ohhh you could have gotten for 1300. Not for what I got LOL. However, if you want a 1300 Baht covered 1 shot experience with no PSE, then crack on, but that's not for me. I prefer a 2-3 hour PSE no rush.

Also your post makes me laugh a lot. You offer 1500 Baht plus taxi and have a photo holding hundreds of thousands of baht. This is the funniest post I have ever read. Of course you bait and switch them with fake photos and nonsense and hours off chit chat for you to finally choose the one girl you want to fuck for an 1 hour. Whatever works for you mate. Who cares. Some of us don't have the time to post fake pics and troll TF on a free plan for hours and hours. You must have a lot of time on your hands.

Don't listen to this guy if you are coming on holiday during high season. Get out to the bars on Soi 6 and walking street and bar fine girls or pick up freelancers in clubs. If you insist on finding FLs in Thai Friendly during high season as a holiday guy, pay the month TF plan for 699 Baht so you can message unlimited with your messages going to the top of the girls' inboxes. At least you can arrange your date within 5 minutes without wasting time. And yes, I know about the stupid trick to message the popular girls on a free plan by doing a name profile search. I just choose not to waste all that time.

ElMexicant
12-03-23, 16:49
I don't buy it. You are not here now and most of these are probably older messages or from during the weekdays before high season…

Also your post makes me laugh a lot. You offer 1500 Baht plus taxi and have a photo holding hundreds of thousands of baht. This is the funniest post I have ever read. Of course you bait and switch them with fake photos and nonsense and hours off chit chat for you to finally choose the one girl you want to fuck for an 1 hour. Whatever works for you mate. Who cares. Some of us don't have the time to post fake pics and troll TF on a free plan for hours and hours. You must have a lot of time on your hands. .This is what makes me laugh. I can never take a guy seriously when he wears black dress shoes with shorts, especially on Soi 6. Remember, I previously mentioned 1 beer or shot is 200 kilocalories. Need to take a break now and then to stay in shape. Got to run. See you later bro!