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LoveItHere
04-01-24, 19:19
What I don't get is that Sir Lancelot posts nice long detailed reports on what his day and night is like and some "members" can't resisit having a dig, a "query", a snide remark etc. But well done to Sir Lancelot (wonderful, ridiculous member name) and lighten up all the guys who enjoy being members of the commentariat. All sir Lancelot's posting are very long and yet there are never any specifics like name of bars or massage parlors. No useful information that anyone can use whether a newbie or a vet. I know if I was that busy and having that much fun I could not find the time to post so much nor would I want to. It is all purely literotica. All that endless posting and no info what so ever.

"She kissed me. I kissed her back. I was so horny both heads were going to explode. I quickly swept her off her feet and onto the nearest moto-chariot to my castle". Garbage!

My turn. I have spent the last 9 days on SOI 6. Not sure when the bars open but anything before 5:00 pm is too hot for me to care. So before 6:30 there are few girls out in the streets and few customers walking down the street. The girls are in the bars and usually sitting down so it is hard to see all the girls available. But once they come out into the street the best ones quickly get grabbed and taken into the back of the bar for drinks, taken upstairs for sex, or taken to the guys place so you may never see them. If you always visit SOI 6 after 10:00 pm you may never see any of the really pretty girls. Now come rainy season I would assume around 3:00-5:00 pm may be the best time because if it is rainy the girls will not be out in the streets as much.

See how my post is informational? Useful for newbies and vets who never thought of coming early thinking the party never starts that early.

Forty Drinks
04-01-24, 21:26
Time to clear up some more misinformation Propaganda.

I'm parroting from another Forum on Pattaya. Seem info there more Believable. LOL.

XS. Say 200 girls working. Someone say Labor bill must be Humumgous. Another said no way san jose.

Those contracts are only paid if girl brings in Money. Kind of what I thought.

EZ example. Girl brings in No Money she doesn't get one baht from XS.

Majority girls are not Making it guys.

CaliGuy33
04-01-24, 22:03
All sir Lancelot's posting are very long and yet there are never any specifics like name of bars or massage parlors. No useful information that anyone can use whether a newbie or a vet. I know if I was that busy and having that much fun I could not find the time to post so much nor would I want to. It is all purely literotica. All that endless posting and no info what so ever.

"She kissed me. I kissed her back. I was so horny both heads were going to explode. I quickly swept her off her feet and onto the nearest moto-chariot to my castle". Garbage!

My turn. I have spent the last 9 days on SOI 6. Not sure when the bars open but anything before 5:00 pm is too hot for me to care. So before 6:30 there are few girls out in the streets and few customers walking down the street. The girls are in the bars and usually sitting down so it is hard to see all the girls available. But once they come out into the street the best ones quickly get grabbed and taken into the back of the bar for drinks, taken upstairs for sex, or taken to the guys place so you may never see them. If you always visit SOI 6 after 10:00 pm you may never see any of the really pretty girls. Now come rainy season I would assume around 3:00-5:00 pm may be the best time because if it is rainy the girls will not be out in the streets as much.

See how my post is informational? Useful for newbies and vets who never thought of coming early thinking the party never starts that early.You make some good points. Lancelot's comments are basically long form version's of Explorer's LOL.

Having said that, I enjoy reading their comments even though they're not useful.

LittleBigMan
04-02-24, 04:02
It's a Thai gogo bar scam. Mamasan figures you can afford another lady drink or are desperate so mama or the girl tells you that there's a drink quota the girl needs to meet. This happens a lot to guys who don't know better at Walking Street gogo bars. Why we have that popular poster named "Forty Drinks". This is the first I've heard this at a LK Metro gogo bar though.

What you should have did in that situation was walk. Tell the girl to find a lady drink from another customer while you wait at another gogo bar. Ask her to Line you once she has that drink and you will come back if you haven't found another girl by then. Believe me 9 times out of 10 that girl will pay her half of the lady drink if it's really a rule or mamasan will say ok you can BF her now. They know you don't live there. If you live in Pattaya they would never pull that stunt on you.

The extra 40 baht randomly added to the BF is a new one. Wish you had questioned it just to hear what mama said it was for.This started happening around a year ago to my experience! Not just Thai Bars, HR on Soi Pot Hole, many of the girls who started when it opened have moved on, Mamasan and Papasan only the hard-core girls who would do anything are left. Today you see a sign outside campaigning for girls. When they first opened, they had a room top floor 500 baht ST. 1500-2000 baht for girl. As time went on things started to change whenever I visited drank outside with girls I had known for some time. Many getting older from their young days at a top gogo, and these changes have them very worried.

They are on drink contracts and fee off each other many of their customers don't BF ST, but like LT which the girls don't like to do beyond 6 am. The place is set as a drink magnet I have had girls tell me that moved on back to GoGo, they or their BF don't like them working there the majority of the time they come home drunk. Funny they rather have their babes being fucked than drunk LOL.

I was there last last Oct-Nov before many girls left. Then they no longer had ST, rooms 3rd Floor, there was one across the Soi for 500 baht. Now the girls wanted 2500ST, catch BF was 1000 baht but you had to buy 5 drinks for the girl to have the privilege. Even my cousin who has plenty of money to lose did the math 1000 BF, 200 a drink for girl x 5 = 1000 total 2000 baht BF add that with 500 baht room, another 2500 to girl. Come on!

As I noted back In family in town we hit lots of GoGo WS, LK, all the same pressure for drinks and more drinks, my go-to place Bacarra just out of control from the two mamasans I had known for years with their hands constantly out one even came up started rubbing her throat and telling me she was hungry. I haven't visited since nor do I plan to girls I know need money I meet them on the side.

ElMexicant
04-02-24, 05:51
Saturday night was at a new GoGo bar called Opium on WS. Very nice interior and exterior. But that's about it. I know it's probably been open for a bit now, but it's still new to me. Hell even Showgirls in LK would be new to me, because I've never been. See how that works? Anyways, chatted with a hostess that I previously knew when she was a coyote at Imagine Club ages ago. I really wasn't interested in banging her again, but for the drink I bought her, she was cool enough to refer me to one of her "under the radar" friends who had a civilian job and needed some extra cash.

Knowing that I am quite picky, she showed her friend's pics on LINE and I liked them and agreed. The girl was only 23. Then she forwarded me her LINE profile. I guess I have that innocent trustable look because I get passed around a shit load by these girls to their friends (this was not the first time this happened). The girls perceive me as a guy who wouldn't hurt a fly, though today I did drown a spider in the shower.

I contacted her the next day and initially offered her 1300 with 100 bump for taxi to meet me in my room at Pattaya Central. She wanted to see my pic. Maybe she wanted to see who was going to be ramming her for 30 minutes or so. And when I sent some, she dropped the price to 1200 and asked me to come to her room. I gladly did because it on was the 10 baht bus line. Yay! Anyways, did not disappoint.

The civi session was unlike a bar girl session at all. Also hardly like a Thermae or FF session. Lots of chit chat. And even cooked me some Mama ramen with shrimp after we had sex. I think I stayed at least 1:45 hours. What a bargain. I made a promise to see her 4 more times. A whopping 6000 baht she is making off me total for 5 sessions. Once again, I think guys who stay here most of the year, this is nothing new. We like being looked as if we are ATMS with no attachments when the right girls come along so easily.

On the way back, I walked to burn some calories. Saw a cute tiny pretty white thing across from the Pizza place next to McDs on Beach Road. Started inching closer to get a look and then saw no boobs. Looked at her friend who was next to her and she look like a LB. Did a 360 before they both noticed that I almost seemed interested. Close call, hurried my ass out of there for some 10 baht chicken strips. Next step, need to get these Thais to learn to make that Cane's sauce.

BTW Panda and her tig ole biddies back at Palace. Plus there is a copy cat of Cat Ears now.

Mangalgm
04-02-24, 08:51
You won't need to bring Viagra to Thailand. And its cheaper.I got it for 100 Baht (4 Tabs of 100 MG).

Mangalgm
04-02-24, 08:52
FYI I'd load up on Viagra in US its much cheaper. https://www.goodrx.com/viagra.You can get it in Pattaya at 100 Baht (4 pills of 100 MG).

Mangalgm
04-02-24, 09:05
Hi,

I got Generic Viagra (sildenafil 100 MG) - 4 Pill in 100 Baht in Pattaya.

Details in PM.

Enjoy Pattaya.

Sir Lancelot
04-02-24, 09:21
The plan this afternoon was to have another ThaiFriendly meet. I'd chatted yesterday with a pretty 20 year old with pigtails and we'd agreed for her to come to my hotel at 2 pm. I sent her a confirmation message at breakfast but she didn't reply. 2 pm came and went without any contact so I turned my attention elsewhere, exchanging messages with several other candidates. A few girls tempted me but suddenly I had a dawning realisation, why spend 1500 on what is essentially a blind date, when you can window shop on soi 6 for a similar amount?

I was just about to step out of my hotel at 4 pm when my Line pinged. It was the ThaiFriendly girl apologising profusely. She claimed that she'd fallen asleep.

I took the baht bus up 2nd Road and stepped on to soi 6 at 4. 20 pm. It was a hot afternoon and lots of the girls on the right hand side of the street (where generally the prettier girls can be seen) were sheltering inside their bars. I saw two girls I'd fucked a few weeks earlier. I gave them a wave but kept walking as I wanted to find my 40th girl of the trip.

I reached one of the popular bars towards the Beach Road end of the street and went inside for a drink. It's amusing that LoveItHere criticised my reports yesterday for having no useful information as I never name the bars, because I used to do exactly that until the class clown ElMexican't started trying to post photos of the girls I fucked. As a result I'm having to redact a lot of information because of one man's trolling.

But what I will say is that it's a bar I fucked a gorgeous girl at earlier in the trip. She was there today too, stood on the street in front of the bar trying to cajole customers inside. She looked great. Tall and slim, dark skin with a beautiful face. I had to pinch myself to think I'd fucked this same girl only a few weeks earlier.

But I had my eyes set on another girl, sat on a stool opposite, vaping away. She was small and skinny and very cute indeed. I bought her a drink and she was exactly the type I go for. Her English was limited but her friend sat opposite told me she was 18 and it was her second day. She had a funny sense of humour and enjoyed showing off her eyebrow gymnastics.

The room was 400 and although the girl asked for 2000 baht, she accepted 1500. Young pretty girls will aim for 1500 or 2000 these days on soi 6.

She led me upstairs. The rooms are always dark and shabby with cartoon characters on the bedding. I showered first and then lay on the bed expectantly as she had her turn. When she was drying herself off she was very small with tiny, almost non-existant tits.

However, despite only being 18 she surprised me with a very assertive and enthusiastic performance.

For a start, she crawled on top of me and kissed me passionately, sticking her tongue down my throat while rubbing her bald pussy against my dick. Then without prompting she crawled down and gave me a really good blowjob that belied her tender years. I slipped a condom on and fucked her gently but I misread her somewhat as when she was on top she really went for it, riding me for all she was worth. I sat up on the edge of the bed and she thrust her hips in to mine, groaning frantically, showering me with kisses, until she came.

Sorry to talk about sex on a sex forum. I know it upsets some prudes.

The down side of pursuing young and innocent types is that sometimes the girls can be timid but this girl was a tiger. She gave a 10/10 performance and was one of the best girls of the trip.

After devouring a tasty plate of spaghetti bolognese at Dre restaurant on soi Lengkee, I spent a few hours relaxing in my room. I considered arranging a ThaiFriendly meet but got itchy feet and decided to go for a walk around the bars instead.

It's my penultimate day of the trip so inevitably I started to see pretty girls pop up at bars that had previously failed to deliver. There was a nice looker outside what had previously been the erroneously named Pretty Bar on Tree Town and a sexy girl at 89 Bar, next to Piss Stop.

Generally Myth Night has disappointed me on this trip. Although it's great to see a new complex like this opening, a lot of the bars are still quiet and most of the girls are older. You see lots of chicks it's hard to believe ever get a customer. However if you're patient there are a small number of decent lookers and I ended up buying a lady-drink for a skinny girl who was a lot of fun.

After ten minutes she started a video call and introduced me to her Mum and Dad! It was awkward as I didn't know what to say. 'Your daughter is very sexy, I look forward to fucking her' seemed somehow inappropriate to my potential future in-laws. Although it was awkward, it was flattering that the girl felt comfortable enough to introduce me to her loved ones.

I decided to pay the barfine but when I asked her how much for her, she said 'up to you'. After jokingly settling on a price of 100 baht (which I'm sure the village elders here on this page will still claim is too much) we took the baht bus along soi Buakhao and walked back to my hotel from the top of soi Lengkee.

The sex was a slow-burner. At first I thought she was going to pass out as she'd clearly had a lot to drink. Eventually she remembered what she was in my room for and began poking my dick as if to say 'wake up'. It wasn't the sexiest of foreplay but fortunately I didn't need need much encouragement and the sex that followed was very enjoyable.

She was the polar opposite of the soi 6 girl earlier. In the bar she came across as a firecracker, confident and assertive, yet she was shy in the bedroom, riding me in an inexperienced manner. The soi 6 girl on the other hand was only 18 but fucked me like a pornstar. Sometimes appearances can be deceptive.

Coolie High
04-02-24, 11:09
All sir Lancelot's posting are very long and yet there are never any specifics like name of bars or massage parlors. No useful information that anyone can use whether a newbie or a vet. I know if I was that busy and having that much fun I could not find the time to post so much nor would I want to. It is all purely literotica. All that endless posting and no info what so ever.Yeah it sounds like you lack imagination or inspiration for that matter. Theres plenty of post for newbies and vets to see what places cost and how much are the ladies, as well as the cost for lady drinks and blah blah blah. You see his post are remnants from the Old School ISG (15-20 yrs ago) when monger gents took time out of their day to tell you more then logistics. They told you a story. How they move thru the city, how the girls interacted with you and vise versa. Basically the "intangibles of life" that most members fail to post about anymore. Hes giving you the full flavor of the city. And because of his perspective it gives newbies a greater all around sense of what to expect when they travel there besides the general X / O's of cost etc.

So easy up on the haterade and instead go grab yourself a cup a joe, add a tequila shot to it, ease back on your lazy boy chair, relax and read his adventures as he shares his stories on how he finds his new freak of the week while navigating thru the concrete jungle we call Pattaya.

Cus one thing for sure I rather be online reading his adventures then looking at daily news from me and/or your hometown where constant negativity reigns supreme AND then afterwards go view the constant garbage off of tik tok / onlyfan hoes that filter their face and body so much that you wouldve thought you watched a retarded Grimlock with fake tits twerk in a dress.

Turgid
04-03-24, 00:36
I suspect that many readers who were heretofore hesitant about visiting Pattaya are, after reading posts of Sir Lancelot's 2024 visit, now all gung ho for a Pattaya rollick.

Forty Drinks
04-03-24, 01:46
I suspect that many readers who were heretofore hesitant about visiting Pattaya are, after reading posts of Sir Lancelot's 2024 visit, now all gung ho for a Pattaya rollick.This is the Problem. Guys will think the Sir is getting Hotties off the street for 1 k-1. 5 k.

So not True.

NRT to Pattaya on Air Asia X yesterday.

What a collection of Hit Girls. Air Attendant s. 5 out of 6 of them would be Top Girl on Walking Street. The 6th would give Soi 6 girls a run for their Money. Maybe she was MamaSan on the Plane.

Had to be discreet in Oogling them. LOL.

Not sure if they could control Rowdy Customer s though or Blast open a Door in aan Emergency.

But my god they were Hot.

Kicker. I swear I paid $218. Might have been my best airfare Ever.

TwatHunter
04-03-24, 03:53
I pulled the trigger on my trip last week, looking at November 7th - 21st. Unfortunately I couldn't find a travel buddy LOL. This will be my first time, I know a few people that have been and they all say to be super careful, but they've only been to Bangkok. I got a guest friendly hotel 100 m from walking street across from the beach. I plan to do most of my hunting there on WS or on TF. I've been to some pretty sketchy places like Tijuana and Panama City solo and never felt unsafe, I'll see about pattaya LOL. Anything to be aware of or keep an eye out for? Any other mongers going to be around in that time frame?

Tlito
04-03-24, 04:23
I pulled the trigger on my trip last week, looking at November 7th - 21st. Unfortunately I couldn't find a travel buddy LOL. This will be my first time, I know a few people that have been and they all say to be super careful, but they've only been to Bangkok. I got a guest friendly hotel 100 m from walking street across from the beach. I plan to do most of my hunting there on WS or on TF. I've been to some pretty sketchy places like Tijuana and Panama City solo and never felt unsafe, I'll see about pattaya LOL. Anything to be aware of or keep an eye out for? Any other mongers going to be around in that time frame?Been many times solo. I am 5 foot 7 and 70 Kg.

I wander around half pissed all hours of the night up back alleys and down Soi 6/1 .

Never been the slightest bit worried about anyone. Especially me.

Make sure you get down to Soi Honey.

Soi 6.

Have a good walk along Beach Road.

Do a GC tour.

I was only going to go once but. As long as your breathing you will want to be in Thailand.

Have fun.

TwatHunter
04-03-24, 04:57
Been many times solo. I am 5 foot 7 and 70 Kg.

I wander around half pissed all hours of the night up back alleys and down Soi 6/1 .

Never been the slightest bit worried about anyone. Especially me.

Make sure you get down to Soi Honey.

Soi 6.

Have a good walk along Beach Road.

Do a GC tour.

I was only going to go once but. As long as your breathing you will want to be in Thailand.

Have fun.

Thanks, Tlito. Just from watching the videos of these areas I can tell a lot of people go solo. I'm not familiar with the GC tour? I'm sure I'll grow tired of walking street within a few days and I'm likely to move to different areas as I grow more comfortable. This has been on the bucket list for a while but the flight is so damn long from the US. Figure I'm not getting any younger (early 40's) if I enjoy it, and I know I will, I'll probably be back every year for the foreseeable future LOL.

Explorer8939
04-03-24, 05:01
I pulled the trigger on my trip last week, looking at November 7th - 21st. Unfortunately I couldn't find a travel buddy LOL. This will be my first time, I know a few people that have been and they all say to be super careful, but they've only been to Bangkok. I got a guest friendly hotel 100 m from walking street across from the beach. I plan to do most of my hunting there on WS or on TF. I've been to some pretty sketchy places like Tijuana and Panama City solo and never felt unsafe, I'll see about pattaya LOL. Anything to be aware of or keep an eye out for? Any other mongers going to be around in that time frame?Thailand is just about the safest country in the world. Except Soi 6/1 in Pattaya, have to watch your back there.

Sir Lancelot's posts are super. But posts about other posters are worthless. Please post about the ladies, not other men.

Speaking of ladies, I exported a Pattaya bargirl to Phuket and am enjoying her company. She has lots of stories about stupid mongers throwing money at her.

Gabacho
04-03-24, 05:23
All sir Lancelot's posting are very long and yet there are never any specifics like name of bars or massage parlors. No useful information that anyone can use whether a newbie or a vet. I know if I was that busy and having that much fun I could not find the time to post so much nor would I want to. It is all purely literotica. All that endless posting and no info what so ever.

"She kissed me. I kissed her back. I was so horny both heads were going to explode. I quickly swept her off her feet and onto the nearest moto-chariot to my castle". Garbage!

My turn. I have spent the last 9 days on SOI 6. Not sure when the bars open but anything before 5:00 pm is too hot for me to care. So before 6:30 there are few girls out in the streets and few customers walking down the street. The girls are in the bars and usually sitting down so it is hard to see all the girls available. But once they come out into the street the best ones quickly get grabbed and taken into the back of the bar for drinks, taken upstairs for sex, or taken to the guys place so you may never see them. If you always visit SOI 6 after 10:00 pm you may never see any of the really pretty girls. Now come rainy season I would assume around 3:00-5:00 pm may be the best time because if it is rainy the girls will not be out in the streets as much.

See how my post is informational? Useful for newbies and vets who never thought of coming early thinking the party never starts that early.I'm. Thinking I may be interested in visiting Pattaya bro. Would you say it is as good as Medellin? Is 1000 to 1500 baht the going rate? What about condoms? Are they required or just optional? Or just up to you if you want to use one?

Tlito
04-03-24, 05:44
Thanks, Tlito. Just from watching the videos of these areas I can tell a lot of people go solo. I'm not familiar with the GC tour? I'm sure I'll grow tired of walking street within a few days and I'm likely to move to different areas as I grow more comfortable. This has been on the bucket list for a while but the flight is so damn long from the US. Figure I'm not getting any younger (early 40's) if I enjoy it, and I know I will, I'll probably be back every year for the foreseeable future LOL.Hi Mate.

I see there is a Bar Crawl every Thursday leaving Maggie Mays (my favourite by the way) from 1 pm. Just go on Google and put in gents clubs Pattaya. Have a read.

Cheers.

Forty Drinks
04-03-24, 05:52
I pulled the trigger on my trip last week, looking at November 7th - 21st. Unfortunately I couldn't find a travel buddy LOL. This will be my first time, I know a few people that have been and they all say to be super careful, but they've only been to Bangkok. I got a guest friendly hotel 100 m from walking street across from the beach. I plan to do most of my hunting there on WS or on TF. I've been to some pretty sketchy places like Tijuana and Panama City solo and never felt unsafe, I'll see about pattaya LOL. Anything to be aware of or keep an eye out for? Any other mongers going to be around in that time frame?Be careful applies to Bars. Not unusual for Hooligans to get Beaten over who knows what.

If you are Chill safety shouldn't even be an Issue. If you are in a desolate area and see 3 teens coming your way you most likely won't be Robbed or Beaten.

On the other Hand be careful walking, Thailand is not Walker friendly.

SoberHans69
04-03-24, 06:22
I pulled the trigger on my trip last week, looking at November 7th - 21st. Unfortunately I couldn't find a travel buddy LOL. This will be my first time, I know a few people that have been and they all say to be super careful, but they've only been to Bangkok. I got a guest friendly hotel 100 m from walking street across from the beach. I plan to do most of my hunting there on WS or on TF. I've been to some pretty sketchy places like Tijuana and Panama City solo and never felt unsafe, I'll see about pattaya LOL. Anything to be aware of or keep an eye out for? Any other mongers going to be around in that time frame?Pattaya is probably the safest red light area in the world. I've never been to Tijuana but I'm sure it's far more dangerous than Pattaya.

Expat American
04-03-24, 08:12
Yeah it sounds like you lack imagination or inspiration for that matter. Theres plenty of post for newbies and vets to see what places cost and how much are the ladies, as well as the cost for lady drinks and blah blah blah. You see his post are remnants from the Old School ISG (15-20 yrs ago) when monger gents took time out of their day to tell you more then logistics. They told you a story. How they move thru the city, how the girls interacted with you and vise versa. Basically the "intangibles of life" that most members fail to post about anymore. Hes giving you the full flavor of the city. And because of his perspective it gives newbies a greater all around sense of what to expect when they travel there besides the general X / O's of cost etc.

So easy up on the haterade and instead go grab yourself a cup a joe, add a tequila shot to it, ease back on your lazy boy chair, relax and read his adventures as he shares his stories on how he finds his new freak of the week while navigating thru the concrete jungle we call Pattaya.

Cus one thing for sure I rather be online reading his adventures then looking at daily news from me and/or your hometown where constant negativity reigns supreme AND then afterwards go view the constant garbage off of tik tok / onlyfan hoes that filter their face and body so much that you wouldve thought you watched a retarded Grimlock with fake tits twerk in a dress.Everyone already knows about WS, Soi 6, GCs, Massage places etc. Most posts on this board arent worth the electrons they consume. Detailed reads like Sir L's are enjoyable and interesting. However, these kinds of "old school" reports are now frowned upon by ISG moderators. I have posted many such detailed reports in Phiilippines, Thailand, Indonesia etc but the last time I did I got trolled. When I called out the trolls, moderators took down my posts and put me on moderation. Guess who is never sharing detailed trip reports on ISG anymore? I guess we should all just post about bars everyone knows about over and over again so "newbies" don't have to scroll back a few pages. I know many seasoned mongers who I meet up with have given up totally on sharing on this board. The quality of postings (much like the girls) has sadly deteriorated dramatically.

Sir Lancelot
04-03-24, 09:44
This is the Problem. Guys will think the Sir is getting Hotties off the street for 1 k-1. 5 k.

So not True.Every word of my diary, good or bad, is true. On this trip I've written about having a chest infection, falling victim to a Tinder bait and switch, the soi 7 girl who didn't want to have sex, being quoted high prices at times, being stood up by a ThaiFriendly chick. I bet you're perfectly happy to accept all of those things happened as described. Yet when I talk about my positive experiences, which far outweigh the negative ones, you call foul.

It doesn't exactly reflect well on the kind of time you yourself must have if you assume anyone who fucks pretty girls must be lying!

Ps when did I say I got a 'hottie off the street for 1K'? I didn't. You're so desperate to criticise you'll even make things up, which is ironic really.

Banana Boi
04-03-24, 10:13
I see there is a Bar Crawl every Thursday leaving Maggie Mays (my favourite by the way) from 1 pm. Just go on Google and put in gents clubs PattayaChecked it out. Why are they only going to the same "GC" clubs and not going to the best ones? Just what I want 20 guys with me as I enter a GC. Most of them don't even have 20 girls working. Would rather go when I'm alone instead of fighting over the hottest girl with 19 other guys. Maybe only me but I endure bars for the girls, not to hang around with other guys.

Do any of the "GC" on the crawl list have over 20 girls on a weekday at 1 pm when the crawl starts?

Explorer8939
04-03-24, 10:35
Checked it out. Why are they only going to the same "GC" clubs and not going to the best ones? Just what I want 20 guys with me as I enter a GC. Most of them don't even have 20 girls working. Would rather go when I'm alone instead of fighting over the hottest girl with 19 other guys. Maybe only me but I endure bars for the girls, not to hang around with other guys.

Do any of the "GC" on the crawl list have over 20 girls on a weekday at 1 pm when the crawl starts?Typically, bars round up as many girls as possible when a bar crawl is scheduled.

Explorer8939
04-03-24, 10:37
Pattaya is probably the safest red light area in the world. I've never been to Tijuana but I'm sure it's far more dangerous than Pattaya.Been to both.

Tijuana is much more dangerous. In fact, the cops in Tijuana are more dangerous than the criminals in Pattaya.

Explorer8939
04-03-24, 10:39
I'm. Thinking I may be interested in visiting Pattaya bro. Would you say it is as good as Medellin? Is 1000 to 1500 baht the going rate? What about condoms? Are they required or just optional? Or just up to you if you want to use one?RTFF.

Are you paying $27 a pop in Medellin? If so, Medellin is better.

Explorer8939
04-03-24, 10:43
Although High Season is slipping away, I am still running into ladies who are booked up, or have to decline other customers to go with me. Its going to be that way until May 1. Then, almost no one will have customers.

Sir Lancelot
04-03-24, 10:46
Today was my final day of my month-long trip Thailand and Philippines. It would prove to be one of the best.

My flight tomorrow leaves Suvanarbhumi Airport at 9. 05 am, so I booked a taxi for the ungodly hour of 4. 30 am. As a result I'd try to conclude any girlie action early in the evening, to give me chance to pack and have an early night. Did it work out like that? Of course not.

After breakfast I was tempted to arrange a ThaiFriendly date. Problem was, the prettiest girl let me down yesterday and I didn't want any frustrations today. The only other girl that I considered was an older girl with the biggest natural tits I've seen for a long time. But the rest of her was pretty big too and I can get those kinds of chicks in England.

So I headed to soi 6 at 3. 30 pm. It was an easy decision in truth. I love this street and wanted to visit it one last time on this trip.

I made my first recce down the street. 3 Angels, Exotica and Wrath seem to be some of the better bets currently for young and pretty girls, but I chose to go in to Kawaii for a drink to cool down from the seering midafternoon sun. The girls wore nurse outfits and I was tempted to buy one of them a drink to see if she could fix my bad chest. The best looking girl, a small spinner with big blowjob lips, was sat with a customer.

The traffic was gridlocked back out on the street due to a delivery blocking all through traffic. The traffic is a nuisance on this road. You can never fully admire the girls lined up infront of their bars for fear of getting ran over.

A lot of the popular bars at the bottom end of the street, like Avarice, Wrath and Seduction were either yet to open or only just showing signs of life. The small smattering of girls in these bars were eating. Thai girls are like cattle, they graze little but often.

I backtracked up the street and spotted a healthy selection of girls wearing sailor outfits outside one of the bars halfway up the street. I stopped for a closer inspection and saw a familiar face. We locked eyes on each other at the exact same time, had a split second of confusion before finally the penny dropped and we recognised each other. It was an ultra-cute girl I fucked at this very bar 18 months ago. She looked great so I couldn't resist buying her a drink.

She was the same cute, bubbly girl with the same manic laugh but she's blossomed in the time since I saw her last. Back then she was 18 and although very cute, slightly 'pum pui'. Not any more though, she was slim and oozed sex appeal. She seemed pleased to see me and took selfies of us both on her phone. She told me that she resumed working at the bar a few weeks earlier after six months back home in Isaan.

The poky room cost 400 but it was one of the better ones on soi 6 as it had a mirror alongside the bed, something that always makes things more fun. The shower didn't work so I had to use a plastic scoop to pour cold water over myself.

18 months ago this girl was new to the job and very inexperienced, pretty much a starfish with one of the tightest pussies I've ever fucked, but she's now an accomplished pro. She was a passionate kisser and willingly ticked off my ticklist of positions one by one. She had perky tits and big nipples. My favourite position of the trip is sat up at the end of the bed, girl on top grinding in to me. My ex girlfriend told me this was the position guaranteed to make her cum and judging by the groans this girl made, it works on Thai girls too.

A fabulous girl and a great way to say goodbye to soi 6.

I walked along the beach in the afternoon sun and cut through soi 7 and Myth to soi Buakhao. After a tasty dinner at Hungry Hippo, tapping my toes to The Beatles and Ed Sheeran, I relaxed in my room for a couple of hours.

My plan tonight was to visit the gogo bars on soi LK Metro. I'd barfine the first hottie I saw and hopefully have an early night. It proved to be wishful thinking.

Sugar Sugar had ten topless girls on stage, two of whom tempted me. One had the most perfect natural tits that gave me a semi just looking, the other was a slinky mover with a flower in her hair and erect bullet-like nipples. On my last visit to this bar the incessant pressure to buy ladydrinks irritated me, but that seems to be a thing of the past thankfully. I wasn't pressured to buy one ladydrink, which seems to be the case in most soi LK Metro gogo bars and even when I visited Walking Street.

The perfect end to the trip would be for me to walk in to Las Vegas agogo and see the 21 year old Terminal 21 girl I was due to go on a date with two years ago before covid intervened. But she wasn't there again. I watched two dance shifts and there were a couple of standout girls. One was pale-skinned with jewels around her eyes and fake tits, a guaranteed wild-time I thought, the other was a beautiful girl with a perfect body. She was a sexy, confident mover too so probably a carnal creature in the bedroom. I was about to offer her a drink when her dance shift left the stage and she vanished in to thin air.

I tried Destiny again and it had eight older girls. A few were nice enough but not at gogo prices. Catch Me only had five girls dancing and I was the only customer. The best looker by far was one of the waitresses, who was sat on a step on the other side of the bar, waiting for customers. She was probably about 20 and had a really lovely face. She saw me looking and smiled. Are bar-staff barfinable in these places? I presume so.

Again LK Metro has disappointed me. I came with a pocket full of cash and a mission to barfine early, but four bars down the line and I was still none the wiser who my last girl of the trip would be.

I decided to go for a walk around Tree Town but the girl I like at Buddy Bar, who messaged me on Line earlier in the afternoon, was conspicuous by her absence. I saw the cute girl I like at Ass 95 but when I asked about her barfine, her first reaction was to look at her watch. She'd been a clockwatcher the first time I fucked her so it wasn't a good sign. 'Drink?' she asked, hustling me, but I decided to move on.

It was 10 pm and time was marching on with a 4 am alarm call tomorrow morning fast approaching. I decided to head back to soi LK Metro and barfine the first likely candidate.

One of the gogo bars on this street (name redacted due to ElMexicant's mission to try to post photographs of girls I've fucked) has delivered me a few lovely girls in the past but things didn't look very promising when I entered, with only five average older girls on stage. One of them looked mid-thirties with big fake tits.

But it's often wise to wait for the second shift in gogo bars. A beautiful girl stepped up on stage that looked about ten years younger than the rest of the girls. She had a perfect body and when she saw me looking flashed me a radiant smile. She was good fun too. She clearly loved to dance so I got her to do my trademark towel dance on stage. I think when girls are prepared to be silly they're far more likely to deliver in the bedroom. I thought she looked Vietnamese but when I invited her down for a drink she told me she was from Laos. She was 24 and a fabulous looking girl.

On the down side she asked for a tequila rose. A scam you sometimes get in gogo bars is the girl will order a shot and neck it straight away, then a member of bar staff will magically appear asking if you want to buy another. 'Maybe later' I always reply.

Although there was a language barrier, she was a lovely girl, smiling almost constantly, so I enquired about prices. She looked confused and called the mamasan over who told me the barfine was 1500 baht and the girl charged 3000 for short-time. Not cheap. I hit back with my usual '2000 plus tip' but the girl looked uncertain. The mamasan had just told her the price was 3000 for short-time and she seemed too inexperienced to realise it was nothing to do with the mamasan what she charged. It was late and I didn't want to miss this girl so bit the bullet and agreed. I needed a gorgeous girl to finish this trip in style and this girl ticked all the boxes.

Back in my room we were chatting on my bed when the girl video-called her sister and introduced me without warning. I had to laugh. Last night the Myth girl put me on a video call with both her parents and tonight it was the girl's sister! It's an awkward conversation chatting to family members of a girl you're about to fuck. Despite this I looked at the pretty girl's face and she seemed genuinely happy. I got the impression she was showing me off. The conversation went on for ages. I had hoped to have her out of my room by 11 pm, but here we were approaching midnight and the conversation with her sister was in full flow. I shrugged it off. I'd be able to sleep on the plane.

After the phone call had finished we both showered and then chatted via Google Translate. She told me I was her first customer, not the first time I've heard that on this trip. But then she typed another message which seemed to reinforce her statement.

'I'm shy. Don't know what to do'.

We kissed and she very quickly warmed to her task, caressing my dick. Before long we were fucking. She was a passionate performer but very shy, pulling a pillow over her face when she saw me admiring her beauty. She had nothing to be shy about of course, she looked beautiful with her luscious hair spread across the pillow. She had a fabulous body and was a sight to behold as she rode me.

Afterwards she curled up to me and showed me photos on her phone of her dancing at events wearing colourful feathery costumes. She was extremely photogenic. Then she typed another message in to Google.

'How long is short time? ' she asked.

Haha, I loved this girl. She was learning on the job and I was her mentor.

I told her one to two hours, explaining that if you get a customer you don't like, like ElMexicant, FortyDrinks or LoveItHere for example, you can leave straight after you've had sex, but if you get someone you like you can stay for two hours. She wasn't the best student as she stayed well over two hours. I had to start packing to give her the hint it was time to leave.

What a lovely girl to end my trip.

It's been a great trip overall. I spent 19 days in Pattaya, as well as 10 in Manila and Angeles and fucked 43 girls in total. The quality of girls was excellent, the large majority of whom were under 23 years old. I fucked girls from gogo bars, beer bars, soi 6, massage-with-extras, a Gents club, as well as freelancers from Tinder, ThaiFriendly and even from the street. It's one of the reasons I enjoy Pattaya, there are so many different ways to meet girls.

Pattaya is a great place. Sometimes I read all of the negativity on this forum and it's so far divorced from reality I think I'm reading about Palestine. The place is a candy store, stocked full of eager girls willing to spread their legs for cash. Ignore the tedious naysayers and perpetual moaners who sadly dominate this page, they just hate seeing outsiders having a fucking awesome time on their patch. My advice to anyone considering a trip to Pattaya, get a ticket booked as soon as you can.

The End

Forty Drinks
04-03-24, 10:51
I'm. Thinking I may be interested in visiting Pattaya bro. Would you say it is as good as Medellin? Is 1000 to 1500 baht the going rate? What about condoms? Are they required or just optional? Or just up to you if you want to use one?This is why I go on about pricing and reports reports. This gentleman is Salivating over Hot Girls for 1.5 k and below.

Can someone else tell him what to expect reasonably.

P.S. He could be an Outlier and be one of those who is into DEI.

All girls are hot and should be paid 1.25 k. LOL. Hahaha.

Tlito
04-03-24, 13:46
Every word of my diary, good or bad, is true. On this trip I've written about having a chest infection, falling victim to a Tinder bait and switch, the soi 7 girl who didn't want to have sex, being quoted high prices at times, being stood up by a ThaiFriendly chick. I bet you're perfectly happy to accept all of those things happened as described. Yet when I talk about my positive experiences, which far outweigh the negative ones, you call foul.

It doesn't exactly reflect well on the kind of time you yourself must have if you assume anyone who fucks pretty girls must be lying!

Ps when did I say I got a 'hottie off the street for 1K'? I didn't. You're so desperate to criticise you'll even make things up, which is ironic really.Just wanted to say thanks for all the time you spent keeping us envious of your prowess in Pattaya.

I enjoyed each report.

Thanks.

AlgoCreeper4
04-03-24, 16:29
Went as a solo traveler last month, from America -5 days at hard rock hotel. Never felt unsafe, Even as my scooter taxi was weaving in and out of traffic / back alleys during a traffic jam. Scariest part was mushroom -trip walked to walking street-horrified by some of the freelancer on beach road. But s0 I 6 is a quick walk from hard rock, no problem by passing front desk to take girls upstairs- going back home felt like being woke from a really awesome dream-5 days not enough. Going back for Halloween, 8 days or so. Made some rookie mistakes my first trip. I was so stoked and no boom boom so I gave a girl 8000 the first night. She was hitting me up the whole time, thinking I was always willing to pay that much but she was 19 with big natural knockers -Avarice bar. Lesson learned but still had so much fun. Unfortunately my first choice girl at Roxy bar was home for the week but hopefully next time.

Axel Heyst
04-03-24, 17:10
I pulled the trigger on my trip last week, looking at November 7th - 21st. Unfortunately I couldn't find a travel buddy LOL. This will be my first time, I know a few people that have been and they all say to be super careful, but they've only been to Bangkok. <snip> I've been to some pretty sketchy places like Tijuana and Panama City solo and never felt unsafe, I'll see about pattaya LOL. Anything to be aware of or keep an eye out for?
Thailand is just about the safest country in the world.
Pattaya is probably the safest red light area in the world. I've never been to Tijuana but I'm sure it's far more dangerous than Pattaya.TwatHunter, there are 2 main kinds of mongering destinations. One is where it is almost impossible to encounter personal violent crime like muggings or worse, and two, where getting mugged is a possibility if you are not careful or are not aware of your surroundings at all times.

Thailand is in the 1st category. It is 99.99% safe, 100% of the time, so you can walk around Sukhumvit and it's many soi side streets in BKK or from the beginning of Walking Street to the end of Beach Road near the Holiday Inn or all up and down Soi Buakhao in Pattaya at any time in safety. I don't know anywhere else except Singapore & Macau which is safer than LOS.

No, your main risks as a punter in Thailand is overpaying, and or barfining the wrong girl and having a shitty session. As a newbie start out with the most highly ISG recommended Go Go's and oily massage parlors (include the high end soapies in BKK) and as you get used to things and more comfortable with the local scene, feel free to wander around more. There are a lot of interesting small bars and massage parlors all over the place. Keep your money and valuables locked up when you have a girl visiting you. This is not a problem with most girls, but why offer the temptation? Don't over booze it. Interview / audition all your potential bar girls. If in doubt, if the girl is not convincing or friendly enough, punt and find a different girl in another bar. That is the beauty of Thailand.

As it is, Thailand is no longer my favorite mongering destination although I still miss the place. My current favorite destination post-Covid happens to be situated in a 2nd category city destination meaning bad violent things can happen to you if you do dumb, stupid things. I have never been in a threatening situation in my new favorite watering hole, but that is because I keep my eyes open at all times and I know that certain neighborhoods are dangerous at night and are therefore no walking areas at night. But you won't have to be concerned about any of this sort of shit in Thailand. The Buddha rules here!

Ebauche
04-03-24, 20:06
I pulled the trigger on my trip last week, looking at November 7th - 21st. Unfortunately I couldn't find a travel buddy LOL. This will be my first time, I know a few people that have been and they all say to be super careful, but they've only been to Bangkok. I got a guest friendly hotel 100 m from walking street across from the beach. I plan to do most of my hunting there on WS or on TF. I've been to some pretty sketchy places like Tijuana and Panama City solo and never felt unsafe, I'll see about pattaya LOL. Anything to be aware of or keep an eye out for? Any other mongers going to be around in that time frame?If there is any danger in Thailand, it's when Western Tourists, always male, decide due to some slight to have a go at the small Thai dude they think has disrespected them. That little Thai dude, and all his buddies, even complete Thai strangers, will join forces to absolutely kick the stupid farang's ass. Doesn't even matter if he is in the right. Raise a fist to a Thai and expect to get beat down.

NRandom940
04-03-24, 20:58
Went as a solo traveler last month, from America -5 days at hard rock hotel. Never felt unsafe, Even as my scooter taxi was weaving in and out of traffic / back alleys during a traffic jam. Scariest part was mushroom -trip walked to walking street-horrified by some of the freelancer on beach road. But s0 I 6 is a quick walk from hard rock, no problem by passing front desk to take girls upstairs- going back home felt like being woke from a really awesome dream-5 days not enough. Going back for Halloween, 8 days or so. Made some rookie mistakes my first trip. I was so stoked and no boom boom so I gave a girl 8000 the first night. She was hitting me up the whole time, thinking I was always willing to pay that much but she was 19 with big natural knockers -Avarice bar. Lesson learned but still had so much fun. Unfortunately my first choice girl at Roxy bar was home for the week but hopefully next time.Just think if you saw that girl in the USA, would you give her $230 usd? (=8000 baht). LOL hell yes you would. So would I and I'd feel like I won the lottery for finding her.

Then we fly across the world and get all stingy haha.

I pay $200 regularly for FS massage parlors in the USA. No other choice. And I guarantee the girls aren't as good looking as the 19 yo you met in Pattaya.

Banana Boi
04-03-24, 23:40
More things not to do in Thailand. Don't walk around like a Big Shot. That never goes over well with Thai. If you find a Thai man yelling at you. Walk away. You will eventually lose every time either to his 20 buddies or his machete. Not really discussed on here but behave on Soi 6. Guys who live here know what I'm talking bout.

A common news story are guys sitting in a police station because they have been robbed 80,000 baht. Why someone is carrying that kind of money around is beyond me. I don't even have enough pockets to fit that many 1000 baht bills. However, the most common news story is a guy who had his real Rolex or an expensive Gold necklace ripped off him, usually by a Ladyboy on Beach Road. Not even sure why they brought those to Thailand to begin with.

Be like the Thai. Just be chill and go along with your daily things. You will never have any issues especially in the "tourist" areas that 99% of the guys discuss on here.

HorseTrader
04-04-24, 02:15
I doubt that any reasonable punter will have problems with the Thai people. But, keeping yourself uninjured is not so certain.

1. Traffic (pedestrians, cars, motorcycles, tuk tuks). A good percentage of taxis don't have functioning seatbelts and some drivers do crazy things. I personally watched 2 motorcycle accidents in March and two of my bar fines had nasty scars from recent motorcycle accidents.

2. Uneven floor surfaces in hotel rooms/bathrooms and public places. Watch your step everywhere!

3. Steep and irregular stairs, many without handrails.

USA OSHA rules would shut down half of Thailand.

TwatHunter
04-04-24, 02:51
Be careful applies to Bars. Not unusual for Hooligans to get Beaten over who knows what.

If you are Chill safety shouldn't even be an Issue. If you are in a desolate area and see 3 teens coming your way you most likely won't be Robbed or Beaten.

On the other Hand be careful walking, Thailand is not Walker friendly.Thanks! I keep to myself, will only be in the bar for 1 thing and it's not drinking. Not too much anyway. I'll only be walking the popular areas mentioned here. I appreciate the info! Looking forward to the trip!

TwatHunter
04-04-24, 02:54
I doubt that any reasonable punter will have problems with the Thai people. But, keeping yourself uninjured is not so certain.

1. Traffic (pedestrians, cars, motorcycles, tuk tuks). A good percentage of taxis don't have functioning seatbelts and some drivers do crazy things. I personally watched 2 motorcycle accidents in March and two of my bar fines had nasty scars from recent motorcycle accidents.

2. Uneven floor surfaces in hotel rooms/bathrooms and public places. Watch your step everywhere!

3. Steep and irregular stairs, many without handrails.

USA OSHA rules would shut down half of Thailand.Very good point! I have read that you can easily be hit or swiped by a vehicle or bike. I'll definitely need to have my head on a swivel. Don't want to end up being injured there. That would dampen things and probably cost a fortune. Thanks!!

TwatHunter
04-04-24, 03:00
More things not to do in Thailand. Don't walk around like a Big Shot. That never goes over well with Thai. If you find a Thai man yelling at you. Walk away. You will eventually lose every time either to his 20 buddies or his machete. Not really discussed on here but behave on Soi 6. Guys who live here know what I'm talking bout.

A common news story are guys sitting in a police station because they have been robbed 80,000 baht. Why someone is carrying that kind of money around is beyond me. I don't even have enough pockets to fit that many 1000 baht bills. However, the most common news story is a guy who had his real Rolex or an expensive Gold necklace ripped off him, usually by a Ladyboy on Beach Road. Not even sure why they brought those to Thailand to begin with.

Be like the Thai. Just be chill and go along with your daily things. You will never have any issues especially in the "tourist" areas that 99% of the guys discuss on here.I am certainly no big shot. No rings, watches or chains. Will be worn. Thanks for the warning, I do have a small gold chain I wear all the time that means a lot but it's always tucked in. I just won't wear it. Never had an issue any where else, I also don't flash money or anything else. I don't want any unneeded attention. I try keep to myself and will on this trip for sure. I'm not very trusting LOL.

TwatHunter
04-04-24, 03:07
TwatHunter, there are 2 main kinds of mongering destinations. One is where it is almost impossible to encounter personal violent crime like muggings or worse, and two, where getting mugged is a possibility if you are not careful or are not aware of your surroundings at all times.

Thailand is in the 1st category. It is 99.99% safe, 100% of the time, so you can walk around Sukhumvit and it's many soi side streets in BKK or from the beginning of Walking Street to the end of Beach Road near the Holiday Inn or all up and down Soi Buakhao in Pattaya at any time in safety. I don't know anywhere else except Singapore & Macau which is safer than LOS.

No, your main risks as a punter in Thailand is overpaying, and or barfining the wrong girl and having a shitty session. As a newbie start out with the most highly ISG recommended Go Go's and oily massage parlors (include the high end soapies in BKK) and as you get used to things and more comfortable with the local scene, feel free to wander around more. There are a lot of interesting small bars and massage parlors all over the place. Keep your money and valuables locked up when you have a girl visiting you. This is not a problem with most girls, but why offer the temptation? Don't over booze it. Interview / audition all your potential bar girls. If in doubt, if the girl is not convincing or friendly enough, punt and find a different girl in another bar. That is the beauty of Thailand.

As it is, Thailand is no longer my favorite mongering destination although I still miss the place. My current favorite destination post-Covid happens to be situated in a 2nd category city destination meaning bad violent things can happen to you if you do dumb, stupid things. I have never been in a threatening situation in my new favorite watering hole, but that is because I keep my eyes open at all times and I know that certain neighborhoods are dangerous at night and are therefore no walking areas at night. But you won't have to be concerned about any of this sort of shit in Thailand. The Buddha rules here!Awesome information! Thank you and everyone who replied! I'll stop filling up the thread now. Look forward to reporting when I get there!

Banana Boi
04-04-24, 05:58
Don't want to end up being injured there. That would dampen things and probably cost a fortune. Won't cost you anything except time cause hopefully you're coming to Thailand WITH insurance!

Not sure how many of you guys drive a car in Pattaya but no one looks in this city before stepping right in front a car. For some reason tourists think they have the right away no matter where they're walking. If I weren't an excellent driver I'm sure a few of them would be 6 feet under by now.

LittleBigMan
04-04-24, 06:42
Won't cost you anything except time cause hopefully you're coming to Thailand WITH insurance!

Not sure how many of you guys drive a car in Pattaya but no one looks in this city before stepping right in front a car. For some reason, tourists think they have the right away no matter where they're walking. If I weren't an excellent driver I'm sure a few of them would be 6 feet under by now.So correct! The place is safe unless you put yourself in a bad position or make a complete ass of yourself. Don't expect to buy travel insurance and rent a motorbike! As noted pedestrians no right away don't expect stops at crosswalks, cross the street in Horizontal never turn your back.

There are always due to pay no matter what you read here! There is a time when you just pay back into a corner and never hesitate, yell police, and run for the hills LOL. Always smile even when you don't mean it. Many times the right answer is not answering!

XXL
04-04-24, 07:25
This is the Line pic of the girl. Somehow she managed to make her TF Profile vanish from TF right after she sent me her Line ID. On this pic (and on her TF pics) you see a youngish petite skinny girl. In real she's well over 35 and grossly overweight. A pig.

A tip: whenever a girl says she does ""massage", forget her! If she says that it's because something is wrong with what she has to offer in terms of sex.

Lcale1982
04-04-24, 07:28
This is the Line pic of the girl. Somehow she managed to make her TF Profile vanish from TF right after she sent me her Line ID. On this pic (and on her TF pics) you see a youngish petite skinny girl. In real she's well over 35 and grossly overweight.

A tip: whenever a girl says she does ""massage", forget her! If she says that it's because something is wrong with what she has to offer in terms of sex.She could have just blocked you after sending Line ID. Guessing you don't remember her TF profile name? I could check if she's still listed.

XXL
04-04-24, 07:32
She could have just blocked you after sending Line ID. Guessing you don't remember her TF profile name? I could check if she's still listed.I think it was Mina or something like that. She blocked me because she knew she was a fraud and wanted to erase her tracks? Not impossible.

Forty Drinks
04-04-24, 07:39
Kudos to the guy who has been saying Pattaya is busy the last few months ad infinitum.

It's actually very busy today. April 4. Central Japanese eats like Fuji have a Lunch crowd.

I'm here for just a song,. Whenever SongSucks starts I'm out.

Paolo99
04-04-24, 08:25
She could have just blocked you after sending Line ID. Guessing you don't remember her TF profile name? I could check if she's still listed.She did not necessarily block him, she can put her account on or off whenever she wants to, by enabling or disabling it.

Once she disable it nobody will see her, and if she wants to use it again, she can enable it by one click.

Coolie High
04-04-24, 09:08
Everyone already knows about WS, Soi 6, GCs, Massage places etc. Most posts on this board arent worth the electrons they consume. Detailed reads like Sir L's are enjoyable and interesting. However, these kinds of "old school" reports are now frowned upon by ISG moderators. I have posted many such detailed reports in Phiilippines, Thailand, Indonesia etc but the last time I did I got trolled. When I called out the trolls, moderators took down my posts and put me on moderation. Guess who is never sharing detailed trip reports on ISG anymore? I guess we should all just post about bars everyone knows about over and over again so "newbies" don't have to scroll back a few pages. I know many seasoned mongers who I meet up with have given up totally on sharing on this board. The quality of postings (much like the girls) has sadly deteriorated dramatically.Theres a great quote from the legendary Bob Marley himself of when they asked him why should he continue on and perform at a peace rally when folks came to his residence and tried to kill him and his family and he responds.

"The people who are trying to make the world worse are not taking a day off. How can I? Bob Marley.

Thats my same sentiments when you have trolls on here posting bullshit. They aint stoping so why should you. The stories of how OG mongers move in another country is why I originally came to this site when I was a young freshman in college over 20 years ago. And I can honestly say the knowledge I've learned on here thru the many years has made me an overall better man. I to use to post stories as well but as we get older we get stubborn in our ways and if we don't feel appreciated we're like fuck it and just stop writing completely. Thats why I salute Sirlancelot and others that continue to take time to post their stories and good quality content because its what's vital for the young generation to here and for us old school ISG members to here as well, as it gets us inspired again and post about our adventures.

So yeah, don't let the trolls stop you from posting your adventures. Like Marley said, They not taking a day off so why should you!!

Peace.

P.S. Enjoyed your adventures Sirlancelot. I still say you shouldve given big mama from Africa a try. Ooh well maybe next time 🤣.

SuperLove
04-04-24, 14:02
Bro, always do a video call before confirming them. If they reject your call or make excuses you know you have to turn them down and move on. Make this a religious habit, LOL.


This is the Line pic of the girl. Somehow she managed to make her TF Profile vanish from TF right after she sent me her Line ID. On this pic (and on her TF pics) you see a youngish petite skinny girl. In real she's well over 35 and grossly overweight. A pig.

A tip: whenever a girl says she does ""massage", forget her! If she says that it's because something is wrong with what she has to offer in terms of sex.

ElMexicant
04-04-24, 14:29
Last night had a buddy visiting Pattaya for the first time at Iron Club, ask me what a simp was, when I mentioned the word to describe a guy in the stands. My buddy is a frequent on another US based mongering forum that uses the term white knight and fucktard a bunch. The latter is self explanatory. Anyways, I told him those two terms were not the same. Simps can be spotted out when they carry the girls' purses or wear matching outfits. Doesn't matter of the girls are average or lookers. White knights always think they are somehow chivalrous and protecting girls by hiding their identities after glorifying tales of conquest with the fairies of all maidens in the kingdom. Never with the wicked stepsisters. Lest, they forget the devil was in the details. He said to me how do the white knights reveal themselves everywhere and online. I said, how do you know Mickey is a mouse?

BTW There was a Brit who got killed yesterday because he walked into his shower glass door without opening it. Cut him bad and bleed to death. No tempted glass in Thailand. How sad and painful.

Explorer8939
04-04-24, 16:33
One note about Pattaya being busy: due to loosening visa rules, Pattaya is overrun with Indian and Chinese families. So, the roads are jammed, but the bars not so much.

Fortunately, those same Indians and Chinese don't use Bolt, so no problem getting around.

The ladies are not getting so many new customers, but there are still holdovers from High Season, wannabe boyfriends.

Turgid
04-04-24, 23:17
This knight of the round table did not have to partake in any battles, quests or tournaments to win the hands and hearts of many a beauteous Thai Guinevere. He is no doubt famed as a nearly unrivalled swordsman and jouster on the Pattaya battleground who has defeated ISG all comers whether they be taco eaters, numerical boozers or otherwise in the arenas on Soi 6, Walking Street and elsewhere if one is to judge from reports on ISG.

Sir Lancelot
04-05-24, 00:48
This knight of the round table did not have to partake in any battles, quests or tournaments to win the hands and hearts of many a beauteous Thai Guinevere. He is no doubt famed as a nearly unrivalled swordsman and jouster on the Pattaya battleground who has defeated ISG all comers whether they be taco eaters, numerical boozers or otherwise in the arenas on Soi 6, Walking Street and elsewhere if one is to judge from reports on ISG.Haha. I think it's fair to say you squeezed every last pun out of Sir Lancelot! (P. S. I tried to email you directly but your inbox is full).

A big thank you to all of the people who left nice comments about my diary, it is nice to know some people enjoy reading. The exciting news is I'm in talks with Netflix about a 12 part serialisation starring Daniel Craig as me, Robert De Niro as Mr Enternational and Gabriel Jesus Iglesias as ElMexicant. It's going to be box office.

(Before FortyDrinks accuses me of lying again, this was a joke).

Breadman
04-05-24, 01:59
Won't cost you anything except time cause hopefully you're coming to Thailand WITH insurance!

Not sure how many of you guys drive a car in Pattaya but no one looks in this city before stepping right in front a car. For some reason tourists think they have the right away no matter where they're walking. If I weren't an excellent driver I'm sure a few of them would be 6 feet under by now.If your driving a car in Thailand, The Philippines, Malaysia etc and your a foreigner know one thing. No matter who was at fault if its a foreigner vs a local the foreigner will always be at fault. Have the cash on hand to pay off the other people and the first cop who shows up. They won't be asking you for your auto insurance card. You'll be expected to pay for all damages and for all of the lost wages of anyone who's hurt even if its your fault or not. Local sees a foreigner driving a car and there's always that chance that they'll try to get into an accident for a payday. Oh you can argue but the person with the most money is expected to pay. But this also works in your favor if you do something like driving drunk, just bribe the first cop you see and off you go in most cases.

Explorer8939
04-05-24, 02:05
Last night had a buddy visiting Pattaya for the first time at Iron Club, ask me what a simp was, when I mentioned the word to describe a guy in the stands. My buddy is a frequent on another US based mongering forum that uses the term white knight and fucktard a bunch. The latter is self explanatory. Anyways, I told him those two terms were not the same. Simps can be spotted out when they carry the girls' purses or wear matching outfits. Doesn't matter of the girls are average or lookers. White knights always think they are somehow chivalrous and protecting girls by hiding their identities after glorifying tales of conquest with the fairies of all maidens in the kingdom. Never with the wicked stepsisters. Lest, they forget the devil was in the details. He said to me how do the white knights reveal themselves everywhere and online. I said, how do you know Mickey is a mouse?

BTW There was a Brit who got killed yesterday because he walked into his shower glass door without opening it. Cut him bad and bleed to death. No tempted glass in Thailand. How sad and painful.Actually, a "white knight" is worse than that. A WK will pass along a photo of a bargirl posted here to the bargirl, so she can complain to her customer who posted it.

Banana Boi
04-05-24, 02:48
Video call

Bro, always do a video call before confirming them. If they reject your call or make excuses you know you have to turn them down and move on. Make this a religious habit, LOL.Is this still a thing? I just can't imagine top looking online girls taking video calls from guys they never met before. If this is your rule you will only get the girls who are desperate for business.

Many many years ago every single gogo girl I met used to video call me on video chat daily. I guess that was part of the game back in those days cause guys felt special some Thai chick was video chatting with them. I quickly stopped answering video calls I hate that shit.

For me it's one of the risks for doing TF, Fiwfans, Gaito, etc. Not worth my time or aggravation. Just pay and get the hottest girl you see in person.

XXL, was this a photo of the girl from 15 years ago or a totally fake photo?

Houston Player
04-05-24, 03:35
Haha. I think it's fair to say you squeezed every last pun out of Sir Lancelot! (P. S. I tried to email you directly but your inbox is full).

A big thank you to all of the people who left nice comments about my diary, it is nice to know some people enjoy reading. The exciting news is I'm in talks with Netflix about a 12 part serialisation starring Daniel Craig as me, Robert De Niro as Mr Enternational and Gabriel Jesus Iglesias as ElMexicant. It's going to be box office.

(Before FortyDrinks accuses me of lying again, this was a joke).I think Denzel Washington or Will Smith would make a better Mr Enternational.

XXL
04-05-24, 03:36
Is this still a thing? I just can't imagine top looking online girls taking video calls from guys they never met before. If this is your rule you will only get the girls who are desperate for business.

Many many years ago every single gogo girl I met used to video call me on video chat daily. I guess that was part of the game back in those days cause guys felt special some Thai chick was video chatting with them. I quickly stopped answering video calls I hate that shit.

For me it's one of the risks for doing TF, Fiwfans, Gaito, etc. Not worth my time or aggravation. Just pay and get the hottest girl you see in person.

XXL, was this a photo of the girl from 15 years ago or a totally fake photo?Rather a pic from long ago. It was the same girl all right. It usually is on TF. Fake pics are rare. Fact is, some girls age but remain the same type of girl, ie young slender girl becomes older slender girl. Many girls however age AND change, so while remaining the same person forensically speaking, they are not at all what their pics suggest.

I wouldn't put too much faith in video calls either. I mean it's all I can do to get girls 1) to reply to my messages 2) to actually come. If I add the further requirement of a video call my success rate in getting girls will be zero. Those girls have horny cash-laden men lined-up, that's the problem. Yesterday I had a very passable MILF from TF in my room (she came after the disaster I describe below). Well, that very passable MILF, by no means a top model, had messages hitting her phone every minute.

Forty Drinks
04-05-24, 04:38
Mr E played by Fat Albert. Getting HoT girls from WS for 1,000 LT and having them Clean his Apt in the morning.

No reports from yesterday. I was watching a Crazytawn stream from Soi 6. He was with an unattractive girl. Killed my desire. Watched the Stock Market instead. LOL.

ElMexicant
04-05-24, 05:27
If your driving a car in Thailand, The Philippines, Malaysia etc and your a foreigner know one thing. No matter who was at fault if its a foreigner vs a local the foreigner will always be at fault. Have the cash on hand to pay off the other people and the first cop who shows up. They won't be asking you for your auto insurance card. You'll be expected to pay for all damages and for all of the lost wages of anyone who's hurt even if its your fault or not. Local sees a foreigner driving a car and there's always that chance that they'll try to get into an accident for a payday. Oh you can argue but the person with the most money is expected to pay. But this also works in your favor if you do something like driving drunk, just bribe the first cop you see and off you go in most cases.I once got hit or "bumped" from behind by a motorbike while walking on the sidewalk. And it was clearly a sidewalk with pavement, curbs, and all. The rider was too lazy to wait with the traffic at a stand still and decided to take a short cut? I turned around to express my displeasure and they somehow made it like it was my fault and got angry at me for being on the sidewalk.

Another time, while walking along side the road going against traffic, so I can see what is coming head on. There was no sidewalk. And I got grazed by a motorbike from behind again. He was going the wrong direction. He tried to tell me this was a two way street. I told him the two way was on the other side of the road, not on the side against traffic where I was walking. He just drove off. I think sometimes these people make up shit trying to get tourists scared so they can make some extra cash to avoid the cops. Weird.

Explorer8939
04-05-24, 05:40
Rather a pic from long ago. It was the same girl all right. It usually is on TF. Fake pics are rare. Fact is, some girls age but remain the same type of girl, ie young slender girl becomes older slender girl. Many girls however age AND change, so while remaining the same person forensically speaking, they are not at all what their pics suggest.

I wouldn't put too much faith in video calls either. I mean it's all I can do to get girls 1) to reply to my messages 2) to actually come. If I add the further requirement of a video call my success rate in getting girls will be zero. Those girls have horny cash-laden men lined-up, that's the problem. Yesterday I had a very passable MILF from TF in my room (she came after the disaster I describe below). Well, that very passable MILF, by no means a top model, had messages hitting her phone every minute.Any bargirl under 50 will be getting messages constantly from lonely guys, most not in Thailand.

Plus, messages from family, son needs money, daughter has sick baby, kik needs money. Plus, the lady will scour the Internet looking for customers after you are gone.

SuperLove
04-05-24, 05:55
I prefer auditioning girls on VC rather than go through an unwanted experience. With limited Time on mongering trips one can't afford to have setbacks. No matter how experienced the punter is, idea is to minimise such incidents and have a great trip. One bad incident, that's all it takes to ruin your mood & holiday.


Is this still a thing? I just can't imagine top looking online girls taking video calls from guys they never met before. If this is your rule you will only get the girls who are desperate for business.

Many many years ago every single gogo girl I met used to video call me on video chat daily. I guess that was part of the game back in those days cause guys felt special some Thai chick was video chatting with them. I quickly stopped answering video calls I hate that shit.

For me it's one of the risks for doing TF, Fiwfans, Gaito, etc. Not worth my time or aggravation. Just pay and get the hottest girl you see in person.

XXL, was this a photo of the girl from 15 years ago or a totally fake photo?

Mr Enternational
04-05-24, 11:50
Many many years ago every single gogo girl I met used to video call me on video chat daily. I guess that was part of the game back in those days cause guys felt special some Thai chick was video chatting with them.No ulterior motive. It is easier for them to speak than to write or keep using the translator. Many foreigners take it that because they can string a few spoken words together that they KNOW English, when actually they may be able to speak but not read or write.

Mr Enternational
04-05-24, 12:08
I wouldn't put too much faith in video calls either. I mean it's all I can do to get girls 1) to reply to my messages 2) to actually come. If I add the further requirement of a video call my success rate in getting girls will be zero.You do not have to make it a requirement. Or ask. All you have to do is hit the videocall button and they will answer. Hell, that is how they do me. And like BB, I never answer that shit either.


Those girls have horny cash-laden men lined-up, that's the problem. Yesterday I had a very passable MILF from TF in my room (she came after the disaster I describe below). Well, that very passable MILF, by no means a top model, had messages hitting her phone every minute.Very true. I do not know why people think a chick has to be the best looking girl TO THEM in order to have a lot of customers. In Pattaya there are tons of pots for every lid. For some reason I never see anyone walking around with all these supposed stunners. Foreigners are mostly walking around holding hands with chicks that I would not even look at. To each their own. The idea is to have a good time, not to try to impress people by paying a girl that onlookers may find attractive.

Werqweq
04-05-24, 12:21
Everyone already knows about WS, Soi 6, GCs, Massage places etc. Most posts on this board arent worth the electrons they consume. Detailed reads like Sir L's are enjoyable and interesting. However, these kinds of "old school" reports are now frowned upon by ISG moderators. I have posted many such detailed reports in Phiilippines, Thailand, Indonesia etc but the last time I did I got trolled. When I called out the trolls, moderators took down my posts and put me on moderation. Guess who is never sharing detailed trip reports on ISG anymore? I guess we should all just post about bars everyone knows about over and over again so "newbies" don't have to scroll back a few pages. I know many seasoned mongers who I meet up with have given up totally on sharing on this board. The quality of postings (much like the girls) has sadly deteriorated dramatically.That's sad to hear. It would be better if you and others just ignored the trolls. E. g. , the only reason I saw 40-drinks nonsense response to SirLancelot is because SirLancelot quoted him.

Forty Drinks
04-05-24, 12:35
That's sad to hear. It would be better if you and others just ignored the trolls. E. g. , the only reason I saw 40-drinks nonsense response to SirLancelot is because SirLancelot quoted him.What was my non sense Response?

ElMexicant
04-05-24, 12:57
Wonder who is more ludicrous. Me or her. Before on the 6, she quotes me 2000 + 400. I countered 1200 + 400 = 1600. She said no. I turned my nose up, balked, and then walked away. Then on the Not So Friendly Thai, she quotes me 1700ST. Which is 100 more than what my total would have been on Soi 6. I still countered down to 1500 and even threw out 1300 to come fuck her in her room, to save me the clean up. Then she IGNORED me. LOL.

Gee whiz, I am getting good at controlling my lust. Got to battle that "must have" or I get to sleep alone feeling. Anyways, dinero saved means more sopapillas for me. Yum! I sure can pick them.

XXL
04-05-24, 13:14
If your driving a car in Thailand, The Philippines, Malaysia etc and your a foreigner know one thing. No matter who was at fault if its a foreigner vs a local the foreigner will always be at fault. Have the cash on hand to pay off the other people and the first cop who shows up. They won't be asking you for your auto insurance card. You'll be expected to pay for all damages and for all of the lost wages of anyone who's hurt even if its your fault or not. Local sees a foreigner driving a car and there's always that chance that they'll try to get into an accident for a payday. Oh you can argue but the person with the most money is expected to pay. But this also works in your favor if you do something like driving drunk, just bribe the first cop you see and off you go in most cases.I know a German guy who had an accident in Thailand. He had a dash cam and his insurance's lawyer arrived on the scene quickly. The German guy was vindicated. The insurance lawyer was very efficient.

Sir Lancelot
04-05-24, 18:46
That's sad to hear. It would be better if you and others just ignored the trolls. E. g. , the only reason I saw 40-drinks nonsense response to SirLancelot is because SirLancelot quoted him.


What was my non sense Response?Sorry to have to spell this out to you but I suspect what Werqweq means is that he's put you on his 'ignore list', which means he only ever reads your posts when you get quoted.

As to what your nonsense response was, it could be tricky to narrow down. My guess would be that you never accept anyone can have a different opinion from yours. You read about people's experiences and can't accept they're real because they don't tally with your own. You find it impossible to accept soi 6 has pretty girls, after all, you spend your life watching endless live streams. You can't accept I fucked pretty girls for 1500 or less, presumably because you can't yourself. That would be my guess but to be fair it could any number of things.

TwatHunter
04-05-24, 22:01
If your driving a car in Thailand, The Philippines, Malaysia etc and your a foreigner know one thing. No matter who was at fault if its a foreigner vs a local the foreigner will always be at fault. Have the cash on hand to pay off the other people and the first cop who shows up. They won't be asking you for your auto insurance card. You'll be expected to pay for all damages and for all of the lost wages of anyone who's hurt even if its your fault or not. Local sees a foreigner driving a car and there's always that chance that they'll try to get into an accident for a payday. Oh you can argue but the person with the most money is expected to pay. But this also works in your favor if you do something like driving drunk, just bribe the first cop you see and off you go in most cases.Won't be driving at all. No need to. Easier to buy a driver for the day LOL. I assume the foreigner is always at fault for everything. I'll just keep my head low and try and get in / out of most places as quick as possible. Not looking for fun nightlife, just fun women to barfine and scoot with LOL.

Forty Drinks
04-06-24, 01:08
Sorry to have to spell this out to you but I suspect what Werqweq means is that he's put you on his 'ignore list', which means he only ever reads your posts when you get quoted.

As to what your nonsense response was, it could be tricky to narrow down. My guess would be that you never accept anyone can have a different opinion from yours. You read about people's experiences and can't accept they're real because they don't tally with your own. You find it impossible to accept soi 6 has pretty girls, after all, you spend your life watching endless live streams. You can't accept I fucked pretty girls for 1500 or less, presumably because you can't yourself. That would be my guess but to be fair it could any number of things.I fully accept what you write is real. Nothing outrageous just a whole lot of mundane.

What I question is guys who say they getting hot girls for 1,500 or less.

Come on man. I'm consistent.

Do I think the guy who bought 40 drinks for a random and was willing to spend $700 on a Soi 6 girl is legit. Sounded Real.

Forty Drinks
04-06-24, 01:10
Sorry to have to spell this out to you but I suspect what Werqweq means is that he's put you on his 'ignore list', which means he only ever reads your posts when you get quoted.

As to what your nonsense response was, it could be tricky to narrow down. My guess would be that you never accept anyone can have a different opinion from yours. You read about people's experiences and can't accept they're real because they don't tally with your own. You find it impossible to accept soi 6 has pretty girls, after all, you spend your life watching endless live streams. You can't accept I fucked pretty girls for 1500 or less, presumably because you can't yourself. That would be my guess but to be fair it could any number of things.I cannot accept there's more than not many Hot Girls on Soi 6 is True.

And again price matters lower price means. You know the Drill.

Forty Drinks
04-06-24, 01:12
Wonder who is more ludicrous. Me or her. Before on the 6, she quotes me 2000 + 400. I countered 1200 + 400 = 1600. She said no. I turned my nose up, balked, and then walked away. Then on the Not So Friendly Thai, she quotes me 1700ST. Which is 100 more than what my total would have been on Soi 6. I still countered down to 1500 and even threw out 1300 to come fuck her in her room, to save me the clean up. Then she IGNORED me. LOL.

Gee whiz, I am getting good at controlling my lust. Got to battle that "must have" or I get to sleep alone feeling. Anyways, dinero saved means more sopapillas for me. Yum! I sure can pick them.You come across as a bit Frugal. Loosen up bro.

Hahaha.

Forty Drinks
04-06-24, 01:29
Livestream. I tune in a lot. Way more fun than reading about Boring reports here.

Nothing going on John.

Piss on wall on Khao Sam Road. Security guard say give me 100 baht. Dummy John say go away.

Sec guard and Buddies surround John. Sec guard went so far as to start Chonking John violently. Sec guard did come to his senses and didn't kill John.

Drama Drama. Drama.

XXL
04-06-24, 04:25
Sorry to have to spell this out to you but I suspect what Werqweq means is that he's put you on his 'ignore list', which means he only ever reads your posts when you get quoted.

As to what your nonsense response was, it could be tricky to narrow down. My guess would be that you never accept anyone can have a different opinion from yours. You read about people's experiences and can't accept they're real because they don't tally with your own. You find it impossible to accept soi 6 has pretty girls, after all, you spend your life watching endless live streams. You can't accept I fucked pretty girls for 1500 or less, presumably because you can't yourself. That would be my guess but to be fair it could any number of things.To be fair these discussions about getting "pretty" girls below list-price are most of the time at cross purposes. What happens is that we are seldom talking about the same girls. Quite a few men are outliers in terms of what they want in a woman. Good for those men of course as they don't need to compete with the tons of men whose tastes cluster around the mean.

To be meaningful such discussions would need to include pics, which is not doable (betrayal of the girl, dangerous for mongers who live here). This is especially true in Thailand where a girl can be identified by her tattoos: hiding her face does not guarantee anonymity. It used to be different before everyone including the girls got internet savvy.

I emerged from Covid with about ten girls in my portfolio. I was paying them 1500. When China reopened, Covid was at an end for good and I nearly at once lost half the girls. They were not longer satisfied with 1500 but instead of telling me to my face they blocked me or repeatedly flaked on appointments. The remaining five girls I soon hastened to upgrade to 2000. Now even these remaining 2000 girls are flaking one after the other. The girls I'm digging up to replace them are older and less hot on average. Thailand is quickly heading towards the 100-dollar mark for short time with a decent girl. Only the dwindling possibility of long time still gives Thailand the edge. I'm a one-shot per day man, I'm not interested in long time. This means that for me sex is now as good value for money eg in Germany's FKKs than it is in Thailand, in spite of the post-Covid hike from 50 to 100 euros in FKK's.

Admittedly, Thai working girls' ageism make things for elderly mongers like me infinitely worse, so younger mongers may have fewer reasons to be pessimistic about Thailand. Indeed this is the most frustrating aspect, more so than price-inflation, about mongering in Thailand right now. In Thailand whenever I see a super hot girl she is conspicuously avoiding me. It was so refreshing to hit Brazil again in 2021 after decades. Every girl in Brazil, and I mean EVERY ONE OF THEM, was happy to talk business with me. Even top-models who put everything Thailand has to offer in the shade.

EihTooms
04-06-24, 05:26
To be fair these discussions about getting "pretty" girls below list-price are most of the time at cross purposes. What happens is that we are seldom talking about the same girls. Quite a few men are outliers in terms of what they want in a woman. Good for those men of course as they don't need to compete with the tons of men whose tastes cluster around the mean.

To be meaningful such discussions would need to include pics, which is not doable (betrayal of the girl, dangerous for mongers who live here). This is especially true in Thailand where a girl can be identified by her tattoos: hiding her face does not guarantee anonymity. It used to be different before everyone including the girls got internet savvy.

I emerged from Covid with about ten girls in my portfolio. I was paying them 1500. When China reopened, Covid was at an end for good and I nearly at once lost half the girls. They were not longer satisfied with 1500 but instead of telling me to my face they blocked me or repeatedly flaked on appointments. The remaining five girls I soon hastened to upgrade to 2000. Now even these remaining 2000 girls are flaking one after the other. The girls I'm digging up to replace them are older and less hot on average. Thailand is quickly heading towards the 100-dollar mark for short time with a decent girl. Only the dwindling possibility of long time still gives Thailand the edge. I'm a one-shot per day man, I'm not interested in long time. This means that for me sex is now as good value for money eg in Germany's FKKs than it is in Thailand, in spite of the post-Covid hike from 50 to 100 euros in FKK's.

Admittedly, Thai working girls' ageism make things for elderly mongers like me infinitely worse, so younger mongers may have fewer reasons to be pessimistic about Thailand. Indeed this is the most frustrating aspect, more so than price-inflation, about mongering in Thailand right now. In Thailand whenever I see a super hot girl she is conspicuously avoiding me. It was so refreshing to hit Brazil again in 2021 after decades. Every girl in Brazil, and I mean EVERY ONE OF THEM, was happy to talk business with me. Even top-models who put everything Thailand has to offer in the shade.Although I can't compare the physical appearance of P4 P girls in Brasil vs those in Thailand, I have not yet bothered to monger in Brasil due to the reported greater insistence on condom use there, you make some good points re what happens and is truly available in Thailand.

Also, in defense of the points Forty Drinks makes, when I read the terms "gorgeous", "flawless body", "stunning" and the like sprinkled throughout anyone's Field Reports of 1,000 - 1,500 baht sessions with girls on Soi 6 or virtually anywhere else in Pattaya, not singling out any one reporter, it is well worth calling a bit of BS on it as a reality check for the unwary newbie who has not yet devoted his vacation time and paid serious money to book flights and hotels to go there.

IMHO.

Explorer8939
04-06-24, 05:30
Pricing and availability is also a function of the season. The same ladies who are busy in January are desperate in June.

I am not seeing that many bargirls with Chinese customers, despite the swarms of Chinese tourists. And I have yet to meet a girl who could speak any Chinese.

LittleBigMan
04-06-24, 06:24
To be fair these discussions about getting "pretty" girls below list-price are most of the time at cross purposes. What happens is that we are seldom talking about the same girls. Quite a few men are outliers in terms of what they want in a woman. Good for those men of course as they don't need to compete with the tons of men whose tastes cluster around the mean.

To be meaningful such discussions would need to include pics, which is not doable (betrayal of the girl, dangerous for mongers who live here). This is especially true in Thailand where a girl can be identified by her tattoos: hiding her face does not guarantee anonymity. It used to be different before everyone including the girls got internet savvy.

I emerged from Covid with about ten girls in my portfolio. I was paying them 1500. When China reopened, Covid was at an end for good and I nearly at once lost half the girls. They were not longer satisfied with 1500 but instead of telling me to my face they blocked me or repeatedly flaked on appointments. The remaining five girls I soon hastened to upgrade to 2000. Now even these remaining 2000 girls are flaking one after the other. The girls I'm digging up to replace them are older and less hot on average. Thailand is quickly heading towards the 100-dollar mark for short time with a decent girl. Only the dwindling possibility of long time still gives Thailand the edge. I'm a one-shot per day man, I'm not interested in long time. This means that for me sex is now as good value for money eg in Germany's FKKs than it is in Thailand, in spite of the post-Covid hike from 50 to 100 euros in FKK's..Your assessment is very accurate as to Thailand after COVID-19, without beating a dead horse I have my opinion as to why it is the way it is today. The younger better-looking ones in my stable are mostly gone if not all. I'm not crying at my stage in life I smile and move on if they call they call. If fact if they do they are doing me a favor! It is what it is!

LittleBigMan
04-06-24, 06:53
I know a German guy who had an accident in Thailand. He had a dash cam and his insurance's lawyer arrived on the scene quickly. The German guy was vindicated. The insurance lawyer was very efficient.Correct, there are two schools of thought. One can accept the blame or stand up for yourself when it comes to driving. The reason the cops feel they can make you pay is because they know the majority of farangs are scared of their shadows. I've heard this several times from the police I know or associated with. Many can't afford to have their passport detained reason the threat is made remember the Indian guy on W. S. Who grabbed the wrong women's ass as soon as his passport was taken a settlement of 200,000 baht was made.

I've been involved in several situations that come away free. Remember a Traffic accident isn't a criminal offense if it isn't alcohol-related it is a civil case. As you noted, the reason all my vehicles have dash cams a picture tells a thousand words. In one case in particular a family friend had no video at Na Jomtien station police demanded 200,000, although the other party admitted fault. The police, the insurance agent for my friend and so so-called victim were all in it together. In the end, we got up and walked out the door and said if you want us back we be coming with our lawyers, pressing charges. It comes down to their bluff vs. Yours! As noted, these are usually Civil matters not criminal.

Motorbikes are more complicated you drive one you better know the Thai driving law and their habits and being able to speak and explain yourself in Thai will help greatly. Whatever you do never get angry or hostile towards anyone doing so is it going to get your vehicle or bike fit NO! 99.9% of Thais motorbikes don't carry 3rd party insurance majority will play dumb and the poor can't pay so walking away means you suck it up the majority of times. Your car insurance will cover it knowing what I just said they aren't chasing anyone and expect your rate to go up next year.

I've been in a few motorbike fender benders last twenty years never my fault, and never a discussion about insurance I know they don't have it never demand they pay it is the price you pay for driving one considers it like " no-fault " years ago a motorbike taxi in front of Big see, 2nd Road cut in front of me and fell. I stopped and helped him and the passenger get off the floor once they realized I was a farang driver and taxi buddies on the corner said I needed to pay. I smiled, pulled my phone out told the boy to knock yourself and call the police. Back on the bike bye!

Panakmuay24
04-06-24, 09:28
I'm currently in BKK and thinking about coming to Pattaya next week for three nights, but I'm worried the supply of girls will dry up with many going back to their villages for the Songkran holiday. I would only be in Pattaya April 8th through the 11th.

Thoughts on the girl supply during this time?

Cheers!

Forty Drinks
04-06-24, 11:34
To be fair these discussions about getting "pretty" girls below list-price are most of the time at cross purposes. What happens is that we are seldom talking about the same girls. Quite a few men are outliers in terms of what they want in a woman. Good for those men of course as they don't need to compete with the tons of men whose tastes cluster around the mean.

To be meaningful such discussions would need to include pics, which is not doable (betrayal of the girl, dangerous for mongers who live here). This is especially true in Thailand where a girl can be identified by her tattoos: hiding her face does not guarantee anonymity. It used to be different before everyone including the girls got internet savvy.

I emerged from Covid with about ten girls in my portfolio. I was paying them 1500. When China reopened, Covid was at an end for good and I nearly at once lost half the girls. They were not longer satisfied with 1500 but instead of telling me to my face they blocked me or repeatedly flaked on appointments. The remaining five girls I soon hastened to upgrade to 2000. Now even these remaining 2000 girls are flaking one after the other. The girls I'm digging up to replace them are older and less hot on average. Thailand is quickly heading towards the 100-dollar mark for short time with a decent girl. Only the dwindling possibility of long time still gives Thailand the edge. I'm a one-shot per day man, I'm not interested in long time. This means that for me sex is now as good value for money eg in Germany's FKKs than it is in Thailand, in spite of the post-Covid hike from 50 to 100 euros in FKK's.

Admittedly, Thai working girls' ageism make things for elderly mongers like me infinitely worse, so younger mongers may have fewer reasons to be pessimistic about Thailand. Indeed this is the most frustrating aspect, more so than price-inflation, about mongering in Thailand right now. In Thailand whenever I see a super hot girl she is conspicuously avoiding me. It was so refreshing to hit Brazil again in 2021 after decades. Every girl in Brazil, and I mean EVERY ONE OF THEM, was happy to talk business with me. Even top-models who put everything Thailand has to offer in the shade.This is a well measured response.

Will be staying at Nikom Court tomorrow. Will be on the lookout for cheap Hot Grils.

For those who do t know girls who Troll this area are Worser than Soi 6. This area gets few Rich Koreans and Indians.

If you don't believe me go into an ahogo.

Explorer8939
04-06-24, 12:30
Bolt taxi is not so much fun at night, still too many tourists in Pattaya.

On the positive side, I went to Camel Toe today, there was a mix of MILFs and younger types. Mind you 8 customers can make the place look busy, there's maybe 10 ladies there. But there was a fairly spectacular young one with a large rack playing pool topless all by herself. Unfortunately, I had to go back to my place to host a massage lady.

Camel Toe specializes in MILFs who are expert in picking off the weak and turning them into boyfriends. Even if the guy has a Thai wife. Especially if the guy has a Thai wife.

Mr Enternational
04-06-24, 14:08
In Thailand whenever I see a super hot girl she is conspicuously avoiding me. It was so refreshing to hit Brazil again in 2021 after decades. Every girl in Brazil, and I mean EVERY ONE OF THEM, was happy to talk business with me. Even top-models who put everything Thailand has to offer in the shade.Brazil and Thailand are different dynamics. In Brazil when a chick is a hooker then she is a hooker. That is her life and wherever you find her, then that is what she is in the place for. Brazilian hookers have a purpose. It is like going to a car mechanic. They are open and available to work on your car and will mostly do good work because that is their job; that is their bread and butter.

In Thailand the majority of chicks that do this do it "on the side". These chicks are farmers and come to Pattaya to make extra money. At any time they can cut bait and go back to the farm life. And it does not help that Pattaya has a party atmosphere that is not seen on a farm. A chick would rather party or drink with friends than to go with a customer. We know how cheap Thailand is so it only takes a couple or a few customers to sustain her for the entire month. If you look at the pay stub that Explorer posted in another thread you will see that it does not help that some bars are paying chicks 25,000 baht for 10 days. The chick had 92 drinks bought for her and only did 4 bar fines. She has no need go with a man, hence avoiding you if you are not buying drinks for her.

So the dynamic for hookers in Thailand is more like a high school kid goofing off working part time at McDonald's. If they get fired from that job then they are still living at home with mom and dad supporting them. They do not have to take it serious the same as the Thai hookers do not take it serious.

Banana Boi
04-06-24, 16:30
but I'm worried the supply of girls will dry up with many going back to their villages for the Songkran holiday. I would only be in Pattaya April 8th through the 11th.

Thoughts on the girl supply during this time?
The girls are there during Songkran. You just need to put up with the immature wanna-be's.

Turgid
04-06-24, 19:35
....... In Thailand whenever I see a super hot girl she is conspicuously avoiding me. It was so refreshing to hit Brazil again in 2021 after decades. Every girl in Brazil, and I mean EVERY ONE OF THEM, was happy to talk business with me. Even top-models who put everything Thailand has to offer in the shade.I have experienced this in Asia especially Thailand, the Philippines and China. The super hot girls make lots of dough from the rich Koreans and Japanese. These dolls believe that their vaginas would be overly stretched by farang resulting in loss of clientele; it is more a psychological issue than anything else. In Brazil there is no such issue as the local gents can match farangs inch for inch; and the garotas, well, they just love sex.

Axel Heyst
04-06-24, 20:01
Turgid & XXL, we really should stop plugging that SA country where the girls like to shag gringos. Thailand is so much better. KKK.

Explorer8939
04-07-24, 01:52
I'm currently in BKK and thinking about coming to Pattaya next week for three nights, but I'm worried the supply of girls will dry up with many going back to their villages for the Songkran holiday. I would only be in Pattaya April 8th through the 11th.

Thoughts on the girl supply during this time?

Cheers!You will be overwhelmed with the number of ladies in Pattaya. Your limitations will be time and money, not ladies.

GettingTang
04-07-24, 21:22
I have experienced this in Asia especially Thailand, the Philippines and China. The super hot girls make lots of dough from the rich Koreans and Japanese. These dolls believe that their vaginas would be overly stretched by farang resulting in loss of clientele; it is more a psychological issue than anything else. In Brazil there is no such issue as the local gents can match farangs inch for inch; and the garotas, well, they just love sex.In a way, this is kind of a myth, but at the same time, it's not. A vagina outside of giving birth really doesn't change in its overall size or capability. It's just what it gets accustom to taking in. It doesn't actually literally get stretched out. LOL my FWB back home I use a $3000 fucking machine on her and trust me that machine can do things to her that I can only dream of doing. Not to mention the size of attachments. We usually work our way up to huge. Although her preference is medium. That's all she needs to get where she Needs to go over and over and over until it becomes endlessly. LOL but here's the amazing part. After seeing this machine, fuck her and ways that I can only dream of. She still wants the real D to finish her off. And that I do. Her pussy has been stretched out completely. It's fully engorged, it's mushy, it's wet dripping and it feels so damn good. LOL Thai women noticeably have smaller vaginas versus their western counterparts. This is indisputable. So I wouldn't worry about them being stretched out a bit. For most of these girls, a good, solid, thick 6 inch is more than they've ever seen, and definitely more than they'll ever need.

Rocko20
04-07-24, 21:48
You will be overwhelmed with the number of ladies in Pattaya. Your limitations will be time and money, not ladies.Sadly, quantity doesn't mean quality. Having been to Pattaya dozens of times, I miss the 15+ years ago Pattaya where a lot of WGs looked like supermodels. Whatsup, Sapphire, Insomnia, Sensations, etc. It was amazing and you could find them anywhere.

My last trip I did manage to find a few stunners at Palace and XS, but it was nothing like previous years.

So yeah, there's plenty of women in Pattaya, but the quality has certainly gone down. My limitation wasn't money or time. It was quality. It just wasn't there so I just kept repeating the same women.

Forty Drinks
04-08-24, 00:59
Sadly, quantity doesn't mean quality. Having been to Pattaya dozens of times, I miss the 15+ years ago Pattaya where a lot of WGs looked like supermodels. Whatsup, Sapphire, Insomnia, Sensations, etc. It was amazing and you could find them anywhere.

My last trip I did manage to find a few stunners at Palace and XS, but it was nothing like previous years.

So yeah, there's plenty of women in Pattaya, but the quality has certainly gone down. My limitation wasn't money or time. It was quality. It just wasn't there so I just kept repeating the same women.Maggie's Mays looks great. The remodel that is.

The Cashier looks Ok. I wonder if she Cashiers Nekkid?

The one girl that the YouTuber interviewed was par for the course,. Not the prettiest nor the Ugliest. A bit wide and older.

Turgid
04-08-24, 01:08
...... Thai women noticeably have smaller vaginas versus their western counterparts. This is indisputable.......Why do Thai women have smaller vaginas than Western women? Because they accommodate smaller penises than Western women. I rest my case.
That is why Asian babes have such tight vaginas.

Explorer8939
04-08-24, 03:20
Sadly, quantity doesn't mean quality. Having been to Pattaya dozens of times, I miss the 15+ years ago Pattaya where a lot of WGs looked like supermodels. Whatsup, Sapphire, Insomnia, Sensations, etc. It was amazing and you could find them anywhere.

My last trip I did manage to find a few stunners at Palace and XS, but it was nothing like previous years.

So yeah, there's plenty of women in Pattaya, but the quality has certainly gone down. My limitation wasn't money or time. It was quality. It just wasn't there so I just kept repeating the same women.Archeologists have unearthed a 14th century Chinese manuscript, and can make out an inscription: " Pattaya ladies much hotter and cheaper 20 years ago".

I first went to Pattaya 20 years ago and the ladies are about the same today. More tattoos and silicon now. For some people, memories are filtered over time.

XXL
04-08-24, 03:45
...

So yeah, there's plenty of women in Pattaya, but the quality has certainly gone down. My limitation wasn't money or time. It was quality. It just wasn't there so I just kept repeating the same women.An apt description of my own predicament. I wouldn't mind shelling out for hot girls. I am grossly underspending as I am, and I have no prospective heirs to bequeath my savings to. But hot girls on whom to splurge are simply not available to me here. The girls I have access to are no longer hot enough for me to have fulfilling protected sex with, in spite of the Sildenafil and the THC. At the same time going bareback with a wide range of average girls - even if negotiable - doesn't strike me as a safe option. Even if it were safe, I suspect it would quickly get old. There's no substitute for a female's hotness in my sexual hypothalamus.

ElMexicant
04-08-24, 04:02
Sticky rice and coconut. 53 baht. Reduced price 25 baht, few hours later. My exact same logic for GoGo Bar girls and Soi 6 girls. It's all in the timing. I could have lied to the cashier and said I only have 23 baht. Wonder would she have given it to me just like when I tell a girl who wants 1500 on LINE, I spent all my money on drinks and only have 1420. Will you take that? Give her a wink. Works every time. LOL.

Pk099
04-08-24, 06:04
Thats is very good comparison. Basically, difference between east and west. In Brazil (or mostly westerner countries) girls will be independent and want to move out of parents house, so they NEED to make money. Where in east girls are supported by parents for long. Many girls I met on seeking in different countries, I could see this difference.


Brazil and Thailand are different dynamics. In Brazil when a chick is a hooker then she is a hooker. That is her life and wherever you find her, then that is what she is in the place for. Brazilian hookers have a purpose. It is like going to a car mechanic. They are open and available to work on your car and will mostly do good work because that is their job; that is their bread and butter.

In Thailand the majority of chicks that do this do it "on the side". These chicks are farmers and come to Pattaya to make extra money. At any time they can cut bait and go back to the farm life. And it does not help that Pattaya has a party atmosphere that is not seen on a farm. A chick would rather party or drink with friends than to go with a customer. We know how cheap Thailand is so it only takes a couple or a few customers to sustain her for the entire month. If you look at the pay stub that Explorer posted in another thread you will see that it does not help that some bars are paying chicks 25,000 baht for 10 days. The chick had 92 drinks bought for her and only did 4 bar fines. She has no need go with a man, hence avoiding you if you are not buying drinks for her.

So the dynamic for hookers in Thailand is more like a high school kid goofing off working part time at McDonald's. If they get fired from that job then they are still living at home with mom and dad supporting them. They do not have to take it serious the same as the Thai hookers do not take it serious.

Expat American
04-08-24, 10:33
Archeologists have unearthed a 14th century Chinese manuscript, and can make out an inscription: " Pattaya ladies much hotter and cheaper 20 years ago".

I first went to Pattaya 20 years ago and the ladies are about the same today. More tattoos and silicon now. For some people, memories are filtered over time.Funny. The fake boobs and tats though are out of control. I hate what these pretty girls are doing their bodies, turning them into a graffiti wall. A couple of small tasteful tats is one thing. But what Thai hookers are doing completely turns me off. And big or small boobs are fine but fake boobs are a hard no for me. So a natural pretty girl with no tatts in Pattaya is a unicorn. The other thing that has definitely deteriorated is attitude. Post social media and smart phones its a different game all together. If you have not been here a decade or more ago, its still amazing compared to the west. But if you had the good fortune to see Pattaya in the early 2000's or before, you too would be sad.

Forty Drinks
04-08-24, 12:39
Sticky rice and coconut. 53 baht. Reduced price 25 baht, few hours later. My exact same logic for GoGo Bar girls and Soi 6 girls. It's all in the timing. I could have lied to the cashier and said I only have 23 baht. Wonder would she have given it to me just like when I tell a girl who wants 1500 on LINE, I spent all my money on drinks and only have 1420. Will you take that? Give her a wink. Works every time. LOL.Central Marina grocery store.

Quality Mangoes. 79 baht. I just buy it. I'll even go out of my way to buy one tray.

Central Shopping. Quality Bad. I don't buy.

Kind of applies to Bargirls on Soi 6.

If quality I buy if not I don't buy.

Lately I haven't been buying on Soi 6.

P.S. I'm not talking outrageous prices. Normal established Soi6 pricing.

Banana Boi
04-08-24, 14:00
Ah, the Good Old Days. In 2044 twenty years from now, 2024 will be the Good Old Days.

It's not only Thai with the tatts. That's a generation trait for the entire world. I don't mid tatts at all if they are done very well. Unfortunately, not the case most of the time. At least the Barbwire Tramp Stamp of the 80's are gone.

If Taylor Swift tatted her entire body with Hello Kitty, watch out! Monkey see, Monkey do.

Mr Enternational
04-08-24, 14:10
Sticky rice and coconut. 53 baht. Reduced price 25 baht, few hours later. My exact same logic for GoGo Bar girls and Soi 6 girls. It's all in the timing. I could have lied to the cashier and said I only have 23 baht. Wonder would she have given it to meMy buddy whose first time it was last month went to buy a bunch of food at a take away spot. Because he has a good heart, he gave the lady 100 baht tip. He came back 2 days later to buy food again. He was 5 baht short. The lady would not give him the food.

Forty Drinks
04-08-24, 15:03
Doing Research. On the 6th.

Ask mildly OK girl how much short time?

She in turn ask howuch you pay?

I sheeplishly Smiled and paid for my 1 drink.

I did not want to say 1,500 and if she accepted then what. Hahaha. I did not want to Barfine.

The Hottest girl has to be a Hello Girl at Kelaya 66 Bar. She dutifully is there everytime I walk by just looking Pretty. Doesn't seem to attract customers. Maybe she has Sponsors.

Expat American
04-08-24, 17:18
It's not only Thai with the tatts. That's a generation trait for the entire world. I don't mid tatts at all if they are done very well. Unfortunately, not the case most of the time. At least the Barbwire Tramp Stamp of the 80's are gone.

If Taylor Swift tatted her entire body with Hello Kitty, watch out! Monkey see, Monkey do.Not yet in Indonesia. Thankfully their religion prohibits tattoos or any permanent changes to their god given body so most girls are pristine. Another reason I really love Jakarta.

Nyezhov
04-08-24, 20:14
Sticky rice and coconut. 53 baht. Reduced price 25 baht, few hours later. My exact same logic for GoGo Bar girls and Soi 6 girls. It's all in the timing. I could have lied to the cashier and said I only have 23 baht. Wonder would she have given it to me just like when I tell a girl who wants 1500 on LINE, I spent all my money on drinks and only have 1420. Will you take that? Give her a wink. Works every time. LOL.Wow. You saved 80 baht.

Malencho
04-08-24, 20:37
Hello,

I am planning to take a trip sometime this year but before I do, I was wondering if you could provide some insight on hotels to pick? Girl friendly? Best spot closest to entertainment. I tried using expedia bit there are so many options. Are hotels closest to Soi 6 better? Should I stick closer to walking street? I don't want to go dirt cheap but not too expensive.

Forty Drinks
04-09-24, 04:17
Johnny What's Happening reported Suckkskran cancelled in Hua Him.

Pattaya and Bangkok next?

Forty Drinks
04-09-24, 04:21
Myth Beer Bar. Beer Bar near Hard Rock. Any Beer Bar Complex.

I commented on Ndtvi channel Las Vegas Beer Bar will be a disaster. He said I don't know. Hahaha. It's true I don't know I just go by what I see I don't see more than 5% occupancy. Sure maybe 2 bars have customers.

Anyone have insight.

Forty Drinks
04-09-24, 12:29
Amiss at Central. Pizza Co.

After 20 years of that huge space they occupied they moved into a Smaller space. Actually looks busy now.

Hope they do well. I like them better than Pizza Hut.

Funny thing. 2 maybe 3 servers are Kind of Hot. Way Superior than anything you find on Soi 6,. I know there are Cute girls on the Soi.

ElMexicant
04-09-24, 13:47
Central Marina grocery store.

Quality Mangoes. 79 baht. I just buy it. I'll even go out of my way to buy one tray.

Central Shopping. Quality Bad. I don't buy.

Kind of applies to Bargirls on Soi 6.

If quality I buy if not I don't buy.

Lately I haven't been buying on Soi 6.

P.S. I'm not talking outrageous prices. Normal established Soi6 pricing.I show you a photo of 1 product. Same product. With 2 different prices.

You talk about different mangoes. 2 different stores. 2 different locations.

Somebody got lost. May want to check Soi 6 for those marbles.

Bunky
04-09-24, 19:38
Funny. The fake boobs and tats though are out of control. I hate what these pretty girls are doing their bodies, turning them into a graffiti wall. A couple of small tasteful tats is one thing. But what Thai hookers are doing completely turns me off. And big or small boobs are fine but fake boobs are a hard no for me. So a natural pretty girl with no tattoos in Pattaya is a unicorn.I think being overweight gets the ball rolling on these lamentable decisions. A girl gets a bit pum-pui and seeks to distract attention from her girth. She gets a boob job so her bustline will match her hips and backside. She tells herself she's "thicc" or "has a banging booty," but she's just fat. After awhile her cartoonish curves need something more, so she gets a tattoo. . . And then another and another. At the point she's crossed the line of no return and there's no way she's ever going to look like she did fresh off the bus. Lip implants? Freaky hair color and style? Might as well. In for a penny, in for a pound. It's like joining the French Foreign Legion after high school. Even a few years living that life will age a person fast.

Bunky
04-09-24, 19:54
I was wondering if you could provide some insight on hotels to pick? Girl friendly? Best spot closest to entertainment? Are hotels closest to Soi 6 better? Should I stick closer to Walking Street? I don't want to go dirt cheap but not too expensive.First timers benefit from staying within 1,000 meters of Soi Myth Night, which you can find on Google Maps. That's between the beach on the west and Third Road on the east. Between, Central Pattaya Road on the north, and Soi 13 on the south. Go to the forum dedicated to Pattaya Hotels. Go back 50 pages and read forward. You'll find a handful of hotels that are mentioned over and over. Whitehouse, Areca, LK Residence, LK Empress. They are all girl friendly. Look up those hotels on the lodging web sites like Trip Advisor and you'll see what's out there.

After you've done your homework, if you have SPECIFIC questions, post them in the hotel forum.

Banana Boi
04-09-24, 23:16
Johnny What's Happening reported Suckkskran cancelled in Hua Him.

Pattaya and Bangkok next?Yes there is always a possibility Songkran gets cancelled or shortened in Thailand due to water rationing. I know water pressure was decreased at my condo right before I left in March. No idea if this has anything to do with water rationing or something else.

It would take a lot to shut down Songkran in Pattaya. That would not be good for future tourism every April. However, pretty sure most people go to Hua Hin to relax and not for Songkran.

Explorer8939
04-10-24, 01:36
Hello,

I am planning to take a trip sometime this year but before I do, I was wondering if you could provide some insight on hotels to pick? Girl friendly? Best spot closest to entertainment. I tried using expedia bit there are so many options. Are hotels closest to Soi 6 better? Should I stick closer to walking street? I don't want to go dirt cheap but not too expensive.If only there were a section here about Pattaya hotels. Then people could direct you to read that section.

Banana Boi
04-10-24, 06:28
Are hotels closest to Soi 6 better? Should I stick closer to walking street? I don't want to go dirt cheap but not too expensive.How can we answer these questions when we don't know what your plan of attack is for Pattaya? I guess the biggest clue in your question is you do not want to expensive so by that Walking Street gogo bars are likely out of your equation. So pick something near Soi 6, or Soi 7/8, or along Beach Road, or Treetown, or Myth Night Plaza, or along Soi Buakhao, or Soi 25 and meet up with Explorer.

Only you can answer your own question. We have no clue where you want to find girls in Pattaya and what your budget for girls and room are. For starters, read the Pattaya hotel thread as Explorer so eloquently directed you to.

NemanLion
04-11-24, 21:48
Should be heading Pattaya again 3rd time soon.

Was wondering if anyone got experience in Japanes girls for fun there.

Seen a whole load but seem to be tourists.

Unico
04-12-24, 08:39
Should be heading Pattaya again 3rd time soon..The only girls that are legally allowed to work are the bars are Thai. Not sure how the Russians get around it, back door payments.

Explorer8939
04-12-24, 16:28
Should be heading Pattaya again 3rd time soon..Just go to Japan.

Global00
04-12-24, 20:04
Been in Pattaya a week. Had 1-3 girls a day. Method has all been online (Thaifriendly (mainly), Tinder, Bumble). These girls are pulling a lot of customers online. One showed me 3000 messages on TF and another who was bragging had over 9000 messages on Tinder. One girl said she been here 6 months, paid off 300,000 bhat loan, sends 30,000 to her mom every other month. While she says her friends drink and gamble their money away.

Been to Soi 6, LK Metro, Walking Street. Honestly, I can't see a difference in talent from what I score online. I'm not blown away by anything anywhere I been but I'm also a bit jaded because I travel, monger and date all over the world and I tend to favor curvy women. Doesn't mean girls are not pretty here because there is a lot of facial beauty. Especially if you not a eugenicists or Chinese imperial legalist and hung up on skin color. Girls are hyper aware of the skin color thing talking about how brown they are and saying they are chubby when the barely weight over 100 Lbs. Besides the self loathing that I don't like that has been stamped into their heads, they are super accommodating and once in the room they basically down for whatever besides the very hard no to anal LOL. I haven't paid more than 1200 for short time with most girls accepting 1000. Majority start at 1500 for ST and 2500 for LT. I did get the occasional 2000 or 3000 for ST and 4000-5000 LT. I just stop responding and don't negotiate. One girl told me they will accept 1000 if you are close to them and the taxi ride is not expensive. They have been extremely punctual which surprised me. I woke up at 3 am wanting to smash and a girl came within 15-20 minutes. And most stay more than an hour during short time where they like to talk and will allow you two shots. I haven't had any rushed service. Things have been good so far besides the scorching day time heat (barely go out in the day) and sewer smell everywhere. No real complaints.

SubCmdr
04-12-24, 21:50
Solid report! I have nothing to add on the factual details of your report. Although my opinions different on the subjective issues that you covered. I appreciate the time you to write and share your experiences with us.


Been in Pattaya a week. Had 1-3 girls a day. Method has all been online (Thaifriendly (mainly), Tinder, Bumble). These girls are pulling a lot of customers online. One showed me 3000 messages on TF and another who was bragging had over 9000 messages on Tinder. One girl said she been here 6 months, paid off 300,000 bhat loan, sends 30,000 to her mom every other month. While she says her friends drink and gamble their money away.

Been to Soi 6, LK Metro, Walking Street. Honestly, I can't see a difference in talent from what I score online. I'm not blown away by anything anywhere I been but I'm also a bit jaded because I travel, monger and date all over the world and I tend to favor curvy women..

CaliGuy33
04-12-24, 23:08
Been in Pattaya a week. Had 1-3 girls a day. Method has all been online (Thaifriendly (mainly), Tinder, Bumble). These girls are pulling a lot of customers online. One showed me 3000 messages on TF and another who was bragging had over 9000 messages on Tinder. One girl said she been here 6 months, paid off 300,000 bhat loan, sends 30,000 to her mom every other month. While she says her friends drink and gamble their money away.

Been to Soi 6, LK Metro, Walking Street. Honestly, I can't see a difference in talent from what I score online..No one cares about how much money the girls are making or how much money they tell you they're making. Stick to the info that matters to mongers.

Explorer8939
04-13-24, 00:49
Been in Pattaya a week. Had 1-3 girls a day. Method has all been online (Thaifriendly (mainly), Tinder, Bumble). These girls are pulling a lot of customers online. One showed me 3000 messages on TF and another who was bragging had over 9000 messages on Tinder. One girl said she been here 6 months, paid off 300,000 bhat loan, sends 30,000 to her mom every other month. While she says her friends drink and gamble their money away.

Been to Soi 6, LK Metro, Walking Street. Honestly, I can't see a difference in talent from what I score online..Just to know that the ladies during April don't have nearly as many customers as during January, so they may charge less. Most trip reports here are from High Season, so cited prices are often extremely high. Because most customers come in December-January.

Explorer8939
04-13-24, 05:21
Don't expect to go to Soi 6 to get laid today. Expect to get wet.

Banana Boi
04-13-24, 05:26
Just go to Japan.Can you give us some leads on the places a Farang can get girls in Japan?

Global00
04-13-24, 05:37
That makes sense. Thanks for the context.


Just to know that the ladies during April don't have nearly as many customers as during January, so they may charge less. Most trip reports here are from High Season, so cited prices are often extremely high. Because most customers come in December-January.

Vendelo
04-13-24, 06:11
Been in Pattaya a week. Had 1-3 girls a day. Method has all been online (Thaifriendly (mainly), Tinder, Bumble). These girls are pulling a lot of customers online. One showed me 3000 messages on TF and another who was bragging had over 9000 messages on Tinder. One girl said she been here 6 months, paid off 300,000 bhat loan, sends 30,000 to her mom every other month. While she says her friends drink and gamble their money away.

...Excellent report.

1) I had no idea girls received so many messages. Now I know why I experience a dismal reply rate.

2) What do you attribute your response rate to? You inform them you are physically in Pattaya? Or you are younger than most mongers?

Explorer8939
04-13-24, 13:25
Can you give us some leads on the places a Farang can get girls in Japan?You know what I am going to write:

If there were only a section on Japan.

Explorer8939
04-13-24, 13:30
No one cares about how much money the girls are making or how much money they tell you they're making. Stick to the info that matters to mongers.Reports on how much the ladies are asking are welcome.

But a lot of guys want to know how much the ladies make. I suspect that the top tip of the pyramid (the 1%) is making astounding money, the top 10% enough to buy a house and a car and take care of their Thai Significant Other, and it goes steeply downhill from there. One top bargirl was sending her family 50,000 a month, but that included sponsorship money. Another lady was getting 300,000 per month from her sponsor, but I wouldn't fuck her for free.

Global00
04-13-24, 16:24
I think what helps is just being here and being direct what you are looking for. I will say something like Hello. Hope all is well. What are you looking for? And that usually gets a response. But some just have so many messages it may be hard to get a quick response from them unless they liked your profile first which is a guaranteed reply. Like Explorer said in response to my post, it may be the timing that I'm here and there are not a lot of customers. When I'm out, I do see more girls than foreign guys even though alot of foreign dudes are here in my opinion.


Excellent report.

1) I had no idea girls received so many messages. Now I know why I experience a dismal reply rate.

2) What do you attribute your response rate to? You inform them you are physically in Pattaya? Or you are younger than most mongers?

Global00
04-13-24, 16:26
And I never asked them how much they make. It was really just pillow talk. Alot of these girls just like to talk about their lives. A few of them told me they just don't have a lot of friends here, some are lonely. So I just lay back in listen and give them the nods and umm hmm that I'm engaged. Least I can do for the pleasure they gave me.


Reports on how much the ladies are asking are welcome.

But a lot of guys want to know how much the ladies make. I suspect that the top tip of the pyramid (the 1%) is making astounding money, the top 10% enough to buy a house and a car and take care of their Thai Significant Other, and it goes steeply downhill from there. One top bargirl was sending her family 50,000 a month, but that included sponsorship money. Another lady was getting 300,000 per month from her sponsor, but I wouldn't fuck her for free.

Jimmy Boy 99
04-13-24, 17:13
Can you give us some leads on the places a Farang can get girls in Japan?

Quote form your post #56620 on 4/10/24 in the Bangkok thread: "This is something that has confused me for years with expats in Thailand. So many are so disgruntled with the hobby scene (price and girl quality) but still live in Thailand. I saw the demise coming in 2018 so moved to Japan even before COVID."

Why are you asking Explorer8939 for this information when you moved to Japan before Covid? You just fucking with him for some reason or you really haven't found out in all this time?

SubCmdr
04-13-24, 17:37
Thai Friendly I have 871 unanswered messages in my in box (yes I just looked as I was writing this). No problems with girls responding to me.

SubCmdr
04-13-24, 18:01
Beach Road

Best selection is between 2000 - 0400. The selection for me is crazy good. The girls fall into three tiers 1000,1500, 2000 and they do not negotiate. They have their prices and they stick to them. Excellent selection. Walk to the short time room. 250 for 2 hours. Clean room, clean towels, clean linen on the bed, brights lights and mirrors for great views. I like the experience!

Banana Boi
04-13-24, 19:25
Why are you asking Explorer8939 for this information when you moved to Japan before Covid? You just fucking with him for some reason or you really haven't found out in all this time?

It never hurts for me to have further knowledge of Japan. There are many cities in Japan maybe he knows stuff I don't or will open my eyes to a new avenue I didn't think of. I can't ask?


You know what I am going to write:

If there were only a section on Japan.

But alas this is the vague type of answer I expected from Explorer.

Explorer8939
04-14-24, 02:38
It never hurts for me to have further knowledge of Japan. There are many cities in Japan maybe he knows stuff I don't or will open my eyes to a new avenue I didn't think of. I can't ask?



But alas this is the vague type of answer I expected from Explorer.I was joking. I didn't think you were serious about asking for info on Japanese girls here in the Pattaya section.

Carry on.

Explorer8939
04-14-24, 02:49
And I never asked them how much they make. It was really just pillow talk. Alot of these girls just like to talk about their lives. A few of them told me they just don't have a lot of friends here, some are lonely. So I just lay back in listen and give them the nods and umm hmm that I'm engaged. Least I can do for the pleasure they gave me.Actually, that's a bit of a problem for me. Some ladies have so many friends that they are constantly talking with them on the phone. If it gets out of hand, I demand they shut off the phone.

One lady I know has the problem that she gets sad calls from friends and family, usually about money, so that she gets distraught for the rest of the night. So I tell that lady to turn off her phone when she walks into my condo.

And then there are the ladies who check Tinder and TF, to see the 100's of lonely guys who want to talk.

Another lady doesn't have many friends, so I introduced her to another bargirl, now they are inseperable, and the first lady will videocall the other while we are in bed.

Jimmy Boy 99
04-14-24, 03:04
It never hurts for me to have further knowledge of Japan. There are many cities in Japan maybe he knows stuff I don't or will open my eyes to a new avenue I didn't think of. I can't ask?

But alas this is the vague type of answer I expected from Explorer.Explorer8939 has never said he is an expert on Japan, he has never posted in the Japan section and his posts in the Thailand section show him spending 4 days in Japan in January with a Thai woman, so he is not likely to know about places you don't.

Regarding his post, his "vague" answer is the appropriate answer to someone who asks for Japan information on the Thailand forum.

XXL
04-14-24, 03:15
Explorer8939 has never said he is an expert on Japan, he has never posted in the Japan section and his posts in the Thailand section show him spending 4 days in Japan in January with a Thai woman, so he is not likely to know about places you don't.

Regarding his post, his "vague" answer is the appropriate answer to someone who asks for Japan information on the Thailand forum.Explorer seems to be an expert in being with Thai women in other countries. Like bringing a Thai woman to Brazil, which seems to me like bringing coal to Newcastle.

I agree that off-topic postings are better left non-answered in any thread.

Banana Boi
04-14-24, 06:04
Regarding his post, his "vague" answer is the appropriate answer to someone who asks for Japan information on the Thailand forum.You're missing the point. ALL his posts are vague like a Penthouse Forum.

They're also only to teach guys like me who buy Hamster Coffins for girls that I'm a loser for Sponsoring them 1000 baht. Yet it's ok for him to gallivant all the major monger hot spots in the world WITH A GIRL!

Global00
04-14-24, 11:46
I believe it. For a low effort monger like me, I enjoy having all those options at my fingertips even if they not all stunners (which is subjective anyway). A quick video call on Line or WhatsApp to verify what they look like without all the filters they use, chat them up a bit to see what they are willing to do, and you have a very relaxing, pleasurable morning, afternoon and / or evening romp.


Thai Friendly I have 871 unanswered messages in my in box (yes I just looked as I was writing this). No problems with girls responding to me.

Explorer8939
04-14-24, 15:27
It's odd that nobody is mentioning the ongoing disaster in Pattaya known as "Songkran". Soi 6 looks like a war zone.

I escaped from Pattaya, with a Thai lady, but she is returning to play water tomorrow.

I can't imagine going out and try to barfine a lady under these conditions.

I am back in Pattaya after Songkran ends.

SeaShanty
04-14-24, 17:27
Which hotels do short time room? (new here).


Beach Road

Best selection is between 2000 - 0400. The selection for me is crazy good. The girls fall into three tiers 1000,1500, 2000 and they do not negotiate. They have their prices and they stick to them. Excellent selection. Walk to the short time room. 250 for 2 hours. Clean room, clean towels, clean linen on the bed, brights lights and mirrors for great views. I like the experience!

MartinFlevo
04-14-24, 21:25
It's odd that nobody is mentioning the ongoing disaster in Pattaya known as "Songkran". Soi 6 looks like a war zone.

I escaped from Pattaya, with a Thai lady, but she is returning to play water tomorrow.

I can't imagine going out and try to barfine a lady under these conditions.

I am back in Pattaya after Songkran ends.Walking street is the same. Hurting business really hard. Second evening already. And watershit goes on untill 3-4 am.

SubCmdr
04-15-24, 12:09
I believe it. For a low effort monger like me, I enjoy having all those options at my fingertips even if they not all stunners (which is subjective anyway). A quick video call on Line or WhatsApp to verify what they look like without all the filters they use, chat them up a bit to see what they are willing to do, and you have a very relaxing, pleasurable morning, afternoon and / or evening romp.Real recognize real. There are the critics who hate. Then we have brothers like you that participate.

Thai Friendly all the pussy you can fuck delivered to your door, 24/07/365 prices range between 600 - 5000 THB. Choose your price point.

Who up in here has a problem with dat?

SubCmdr
04-15-24, 12:16
Which hotels do short time room? (new here).Do you have "boots on the ground"? I can show you or you can just walk up to any girl on Beach Road, make a deal and she will show you. One of my favorites is on Soi 13/1. Called the Love Time Inn.

The Cmdr continues to provide useful intelligence on having sex with girls in Pattaya while others just talk shit! And you know who you are. LOL!

Turgid
04-15-24, 16:17
......Now, I would not recommend Thai Friendly to someone looking for a long term relationship. I recommend that they learn to speak Thai. Learn Thai culture. And while you are at it, hit the gym and get some decent clothes tailored for you. In other words, bring your A game. That means you got to step your game up. Then head out into the countryside and find a girl that is not interested in the Bangkok or Pattaya lifestyle.....In my last visit to Bangkok 2015 I decided to fool around with DIA and met this 36 year old Thai lady single with no children. She did not smoke, drink or party and had no tattoos. She told me never to shop at malls as they are too expensive and she said the cheap restaurants are the best but you must know which ones to go to. She never let me spend a bad Baht and never asked for money. She was as genuine as they come.

Explorer8939
04-17-24, 09:20
I just had an agency girl stay with me. She had loads of stories of guys who way overpaid for her, 10,000 baht overnighters and the like.

Plus losers sending her money for nothing. Needless to say, I wasn't paying 10,000 a night for her.

Explorer8939
04-18-24, 13:04
Anyone in Pattaya should notice that it's very hot right now, and that the heat is going to increase when Songkran ends. Unfortunately, I get back to Pattaya when Songkran ends.

So my mongering strategy is definitely going to require the ladies come to my air conditioned condo. No way am I going to be out wandering the bars in the heat.

LoveItHere
04-18-24, 18:59
Soi 6 is not relaxing.

I spent 2 weeks on Soi 6. Hated it and I was not the only one.

BIg 6 foot tall strong guy has a tall chubby girl jump up on him and both their balances get thrown off. In slow motion they fall flat to Earth. As in lying flat down on the pavement.

I saw a married couple in their upper 30's with the guy wearing a big full backpack at the end of Soi 6. He tells his wife to make sure the girls do not attack him. Basically, he wanted her to play the part of the blocker on a football team for the runner.

Two guys in their 30's wanted to walk from Beach Road to Second Street. They looked down Soi 6 and decided to take the next street. They chose to avoid sexy girls because the girls are such a pain in the.

I saw many guys at both ends of Soi 6 building up the nerve to run the gauntlet the first time or to return back. Kinda like you are about to go underwater and you are taking big deep breaths before you dive under.

If I walk slow the girls grab my arm and sometimes my nutz. And not in an enjoyable way. Rubbing my junk slow and soft is great, but they grab fast and hard making me jump back most the time. It is not a slow soft pulling of the arm but a hard firm death grip. I was shocked at the force and number of girls that were pulling some really big guys towards their bar. One pulls and the other pushes. You could see the shock in so many of these guys faces saying WTF! Many guys were smiling with all this happening but I could tell the way they jerked their arms away they were feed up and the girls were clueless and laughing unaware. Sometimes I had to use a lot of force jerking my hand or arm away to pass by. But if I use too much force or get mad then that girl and girls at that bar will get angry and not want to "F" me. In addition, I am always on alert for my phone or cash being pick pocketed so I find it all a bit stressful. If the girl comes and hugs you and one of the multitude of girls behind you grab your wallet / cell you have no idea which one. Chance is super rare I know but I can not simply drop my guard.

This was the pattern for me. The first time the girls "attack" it is fun and entertaining because it is a new experience. Few days later (or 7 time walking thru) it is annoying. Soon after it is dread. If you walk slow to look at the girls and choose which bar to sit at then the number of girls attacking increases with each decrease in my walking speed. If I walk too fast I can not get a good look at the girls or choose which bar to sit at. If I walk in the middle of the road I nearly get hit my motorcycles or cars. Soi 6 should be walking only 6 pm to midnight!

I know there are some guys that love it because they have low self esteem. OMG! OMG! A pretty girl talked to me! OMG! OMG! A pretty girl touched me! Wish I was one of you to tolerate the "Sht Show".

What a stupid business model where guys dread walking down a street full of sexy women. Next time you go. See how many Asian customers you see drinking in the Soi 6 bars. Not many. Many walk thru the street like they are walking down a circus side show, but few stay. Most Asians (especially Koreans and Japanese) do not like this behavior. The few Asians I see seem to prefer to sit on the opposite side of the Nightwish group of bars with the calmer ladies not pulling at them.

In addition, the girls sometimes are not happy to give up their front row seating overlooking Soi 6 for customers. Some acted mildly shocked I wanted to sit front and center to watch the parade walking up and down the street versus sitting in the back of the bar. So much for "Welcaaaahhhmm". So stupid that none of the bedrooms upstairs have trash cans for used condoms. Place in tissue and throw in garbage can in the bargirls bathroom on your way out. Also, no shelves and very few hooks to hang your clothes so either had to place on the bed or on the floor.

When walking down this street I have to worry about being pick pocketed, hit in the nutz with their hand, hit in the nutz or eye when beaten with their foam beat sticks, getting my shirt possibly ripped when I try to escape their evil clutches, possibly hurting them when I use force to pry away, pissing off one aggressive girl making my escape and thus losing the ability to sexing one of other girls in the bar that I actually want, and avoiding getting hit by motos and cars. Fun fun!

Passions bar. I swear the room on the left had only a bed sheet covering the bedsprings. I am a small guy and my knees and elbow hurt when the metal pressed into me.

The top 5 girls pretty much turned me down. First one wanted 2000 which seemed high. I should have paid it but it was my first day getting used to the game there. I tried to tease her the next day I saw her but she did not understand dry humor so looked angry so I walked away. Second one was one week new and said she had menstruation. Maybe maybe not. Third one would not tell me how much when I asked. She told me to buy her a drink so I passed on that. Not a happy vibe. But she was a "9" and she knew it. She goes out when she wants and with whom she wants. Fourth one only did Asians. Fifth can not remember.

Most of you guys never tell the tales about the other side of the coin so I did.

LoveItHere
04-18-24, 19:11
Beach Road
Best selection is between 2000 - 0400. The selection for me is crazy good. Excellent selection. I hit Beach Road last month. You basically listed the entire time they are out as the best times. Very few if any out in the heat of the day. Best by 8:00 to 12:00 maybe 1:00. I had 11 girls and only proud of 4. Can I borrow your beer goggles?

FYI If you are that impressed by the Beach Road women then the SOI 6 girls (average 5-7 years younger) will simply make you cream in your jeans. Plus, there are at least 3 times as many girls in at least one-third the area.

Member #4807
04-18-24, 19:43
Wow you explained the soi 6 scene so dramatically as if its a street in Yemen or Syria. If you want to avoid the hustle and bustle of it you can always roam around Pratumnak hill.


Soi 6 is not relaxing.

I spent 2 weeks on Soi 6. Hated it and I was not the only one.

BIg 6 foot tall strong guy has a tall chubby girl jump up on him and both their balances get thrown off. In slow motion they fall flat to Earth. As in lying flat down on the pavement.

I saw a married couple in their upper 30's with the guy wearing a big full backpack at the end of Soi 6. He tells his wife to make sure the girls do not attack him. Basically, he wanted her to play the part of the blocker on a football team for the runner..

LoveItHere
04-18-24, 19:48
Quote form your post #56620 on 4/10/24 in the Bangkok thread: "This is something that has confused me for years with expats in Thailand. So many are so disgruntled with the hobby scene (price and girl quality) but still live in Thailand. I saw the demise coming in 2018 so moved to Japan even before COVID."

Why are you asking Explorer8939 for this information when you moved to Japan before Covid? You just fucking with him for some reason or you really haven't found out in all this time?Banana Boi in the Jakarta section.

February 17,2024 Post 17448 BB did a trip report.

April 16,2024 Post 17648 Two months later BB "In Jakarta, that criteria is young under 23, fairly slim, large natural tits, and a way better than average cute face. Say I have some game and am not old, is this what I will find in Lokasari when I return next month?

I think he may be a story teller. How much of the bar, street, or online scene can change that quickly? Why would he even have to ask that question if he has already been there? He would know what his game and not so old would get him.

Banana Boi
04-18-24, 19:58
I think he may be a story teller. How much of the bar, street, or online scene can change that quickly? Why would he even have to ask that question if he has already been there? He would know what his game and not so old would get him.Yes, everything on ISG I have ever written is only a story. All 50+ ISG members I have ever met were all made up and are all story tellers too because they must be fake if I met them. You have caught me. I have never set foot in Thailand like a few big posters in the Thailand threads.


Banana Boi in the Jakarta section.

February 17,2024 Post 17448 BB did a trip report.

April 16,2024 Post 17648 Two months later BB "In Jakarta, that criteria is young under 23, fairly slim, large natural tits, and a way better than average cute face. Say I have some game and am not old, is this what I will find in Lokasari when I return next month?

edit - I didn't even read this part of your post until now. I don't even understand what your point is. Yes, I was in Jakarta in February and made trip reports. I am one of the few regular posters on here who do trip reports with names of bars. Then you quote me asking a legitimate question to a guy who posted there are decent looking girls in Lokasari. I haven't been to Lokasari since 2016! I asked since his post contradicted all things I know about the current state of Lokasari. Then somehow from this you concluded my trip reports from February, 2024 are story telling?

CaliGuy33
04-18-24, 21:31
Soi 6 is not relaxing.

I spent 2 weeks on Soi 6. Hated it and I was not the only one.

BIg 6 foot tall strong guy has a tall chubby girl jump up on him and both their balances get thrown off. In slow motion they fall flat to Earth. As in lying flat down on the pavement.

I saw a married couple in their upper 30's with the guy wearing a big full backpack at the end of Soi 6. He tells his wife to make sure the girls do not attack him. Basically, he wanted her to play the part of the blocker on a football team for the runner.

Two guys in their 30's wanted to walk from Beach Road to Second Street. They looked down Soi 6 and decided to take the next street. They chose to avoid sexy girls because the girls are such a pain in the.

I saw many guys at both ends of Soi 6 building up the nerve to run the gauntlet the first time or to return back. Kinda like you are about to go underwater and you are taking big deep breaths before you dive under.

If I walk slow the girls grab my arm and sometimes my nutz. And not in an enjoyable way. Rubbing my junk slow and soft is great, but they grab fast and hard making me jump back most the time. It is not a slow soft pulling of the arm but a hard firm death grip. I was shocked at the force and number of girls that were pulling some really big guys towards their bar. One pulls and the other pushes. You could see the shock in so many of these guys faces saying WTF! Many guys were smiling with all this happening but I could tell the way they jerked their arms away they were feed up and the girls were clueless and laughing unaware. Sometimes I had to use a lot of force jerking my hand or arm away to pass by. But if I use too much force or get mad then that girl and girls at that bar will get angry and not want to "F" me. In addition, I am always on alert for my phone or cash being pick pocketed so I find it all a bit stressful. If the girl comes and hugs you and one of the multitude of girls behind you grab your wallet / cell you have no idea which one. Chance is super rare I know but I can not simply drop my guard.If you hate Soi 6 so much, why did you spend two weeks there? LOL. You're a funny dude.

MartinFlevo
04-18-24, 21:41
Soi 6 is not relaxing.

I spent 2 weeks on Soi 6. Hated it and I was not the only one.

Most of you guys never tell the tales about the other side of the coin so I did.Great review! And I agree 100% I avoid soi6 like the plague. The music in those bars is loud and terrible. 95% of the girls I wouldn't fuck for free (especially when you walk there daytime! SO yeah agree it feels more like a tourist trap (maybe compare it to the RLD in Amsterdam) than a true monger spot. Of course there will be guys who like it (same for RLD / Amsterdam) but def not my cup of tea.

SubCmdr
04-18-24, 22:32
I hit Beach Road last month. You basically listed the entire time they are out as the best times. Yes I did. Because I roam the street from those times and have found selections that I like during those hours.


Very few if any out in the heat of the day. Thank you for stating the obvious. No one wants to be out in the heat of the day. The massage girls tend to sit inside during the afternoon also. You have noticed that haven't you?


Best by 8:00 to 12:00 maybe 1:00.Thank you for sharing your opinion. It is not a fact.


I had 11 girls and only proud of 4.I am very sorry you are not proud of your efforts as a professional TRICK on beach road. FYI, I understand the girls on Soi 6 are better for you. That begs the question as to why you were on beach road in the first place and where is your original report? I must have missed it.


Can I borrow your beer goggles?Not possible. Because I do let alcohol affect me while I am in the streets. The only time I drink is to have one with a lady in a bar or gentleman's club (my actual preferred venue) to hang out and get to know her.

Can I borrow the part of your personality laced with bitter sarcasm? Nah, you can keep that. I am good.


FYI If you are that impressed by the Beach Road women then the SOI 6 girls (average 5-7 years younger) will simply make you cream in your jeans.Anyone who has been reading my posts here knows I focus on the deal and not the girl. Performance is more important to me than appearance. Everyone knows this. I evaluate by price point. Give me a 6 who performs in the bedroom over a 10 that is dead fish and just shows up and thinks she can get by on her beauty. If you do not like the way Thai girls look (and I know you prefer Colombianas), why did you come here anyway?

The girls of Beach Road have performed in an outstanding manner for me. Have offered up their friends for me to go with and do threesomes with. You see, it is precisely because of negative posters and responses like you I do not share my total experiences. I know how excited visitors like you get when the chance to tell a story of your exploits presents itself. That is not me. I like to keep it real and focused on useful intelligence for my readers.


Plus, there are at least 3 times as many girls in at least one-third the area.Your dick, your money, your preferences. What makes you think that I would like anything that you like. Have you ever met me?

Do you really think you need to tell me about Soi 6? If you do then you must have had forty drinks before you responded to my post.

Your response to my post contains a lot of assumptions. All of them incorrect as I have pointed out to you. I am not critical of others who provide information in the forum. You need to learn that your way of looking at things is not the only way to look at things. You need to write in a more respectable manner in your responses in the Pattaya Reports thread.

I am glad you enjoy Soi 6. Oh no! You did not enjoy Soi 6. Wait, wait! You spent two weeks on Soi 6 but you did not enjoy it. At what point did you figure out that you did not enjoy it? I know about Soi 6. After the initial shock now I know what to expect I like Soi 6. Especially to fuck or get my dick sucked. A change of venue. But I agree with the following statement:


Soi 6 is not relaxing.Actually was a very informative report from your perspective. But what is up with the racism about who likes and does not like Soi 6? Although you get some of the factual things about Soi 6 correct, I completely disagree with your opinions and projections about the types of guys that goto Soi 6.

The statement you made that I would enjoy Soi 6 better in your response to me is completely contradictory to the report you filed right before your response to me.

Anyone who does not like Pattaya, Thailand should goto Medellin, Colombia. Why in the world did you fly half way around the world when you had everything that you like right at your fingertips?

Medellin Colombia is great! According to you, better looking girls and lower prices. What is that place called that you like so much? Central. Apologies if I am wrong. Maybe I like it so much. Yep, been there. It is set up like Beach Road. Short term hotels. A wide variety of prostitutes looking for customers. Many very attractive. Others not so much. In fact you put out inaccurate information about the place in order to discourage other mongers from visiting. Isn't that true? Is that what you are doing now?

Now, all reading your reports know your biases. I hope you enjoy your next stop in SEA more.

How you like me now?

LoveItHere
04-19-24, 05:01
If you hate Soi 6 so much, why did you spend two weeks there? LOL. You're a funny dude.Sometimes you go somewhere and you love it for the first 2 weeks but then reality soon hits. The honeymoon phase passes and you realize it was not so great. Example is you go to the beach which is fun as hell for 2 weeks but then boring. Other times you hate a place during the first 2 weeks but then suddenly everything clicks and things fall into place and you end up liking it. My plan was 2 months. I gave up after 5 weeks and got out before Songkran hit. I needed to give the online, street girls, and SOI 6 a decent try. I am searching for a retirement location and checking out several countries.

SOI 6 could be so much fun if the girls would simple just relax and not have 7+ girls jump in front of you blocking your path every time you walk down the street. I was chatting to a bar manager off to the side and one of the girls was bothering him like he was a tourist. He told her he was a bar manager and she still did not stop. Amazing! Everyone posts how wonderful it is but never the downside. I mentioned before the guy I met whose friends told him he just had to go to Pattaya and he had the exact response as me. But he had less time so he went to try the Philippines after a 6 day try.

SubCmdr. Asians are generally more reserved and do not require the outward attention other races require. Hardly racist. Now this is racist. Have you ever scene a group of Asians (especially Japanese or Korean) behave like a group from another certain race? I did not even have to say which one did I? The answer by the way is: Eskimos.

Nyezhov
04-19-24, 07:34
Sometimes you go somewhere and you love it for the first 2 weeks but then reality soon hits. The honeymoon phase passes and you realize it was not so great. Example is you go to the beach which is fun as hell for 2 weeks but then boring. Other times you hate a place during the first 2 weeks but then suddenly everything clicks and things fall into place and you end up liking it. My plan was 2 months. I gave up after 5 weeks and got out before Songkran hit. I needed to give the online, street girls, and SOI 6 a decent try. I am searching for a retirement location and checking out several countries.

SOI 6 could be so much fun if the girls would simple just relax and not have 7+ girls jump in front of you blocking your path every time you walk down the street. I was chatting to a bar manager off to the side and one of the girls was bothering him like he was a tourist. He told her he was a bar manager and she still did not stop. Amazing! Everyone posts how wonderful it is but never the downside. I mentioned before the guy I met whose friends told him he just had to go to Pattaya and he had the exact response as me. But he had less time so he went to try the Philippines after a 6 day try.

SubCmdr. Asians are generally more reserved and do not require the outward attention other races require. Hardly racist. Now this is racist. Have you ever scene a group of Asians (especially Japanese or Korean) behave like a group from another certain race? I did not even have to say which one did I? The answer by the way is: Eskimos.Do you mean Inupiat, Yupik, Geenland Inuit.

Or Aleuts?

Paolo99
04-19-24, 08:00
I was chatting to a bar manager off to the side and one of the girls was bothering him like he was a tourist. He told her he was a bar manager and she still did not stop. Amazing!A bar owner around there is a nobody. Some of them are even begging for drinks, the same way the girls are doing.

It's not a surprise she was not impressed by his response.

XXL
04-20-24, 05:05
Where would 90% of Beach Road girls fit in other countries with street prostitution? I think they would be found doing tricks in bushes outside of town or underneath motorway interchange bridges. The infamous Jakarta railroad tracks come to mind.

Now it was a long time I hadn't as much as walked along Beach Road after 8 pm. I did so shortly before Songkran and was at first surprised to see a handful of doable girls. My surprise must have had to do with Soi 6 having gone down in the meantime though.

Soi 6 in early to mid-afternoon had always be my reference (I have no idea of Soi 6 after dark). The quality of Soi 6 in early to mid-afternoon having gone down, Beach Road struck me as not to be written off entirely.

Note that the doable girls on Beach Road seemed to have taken a cue from Soi 6's best-looking girls. They turned their back and/or stayed with their nose glued to their smartphones in order to signal unavailability and underscore their own-perceived immense worth.

Kim Wheather
04-20-24, 06:35
It's odd that nobody is mentioning the ongoing disaster in Pattaya known as "Songkran". Soi 6 looks like a war zone.

I escaped from Pattaya, with a Thai lady, but she is returning to play water tomorrow.

I can't imagine going out and try to barfine a lady under these conditions.

I am back in Pattaya after Songkran ends.I experienced Songkran only once in Pattaya. And it was a total disaster. Almost all people seemed to lose respect and they used water violence to people who didn't want to play with water. The worst thing I witnessed was when we waited a baht-bus drive, a bunch of vandals throw water with all their aggressions and there were 2 small children in the baht-bus. Those small children became terrified completely and their parents could not protect them against those water-vandals. I can still remember how those children cried in the baht-bus, even it was 9 years ago.

I will never ever come to Thailand in April.

BHawk
04-20-24, 10:51
Is this a Pattaya girl that someone can help me find?

https://www.xvideos.com/video.ktuotp...s_on_thai_babe

Banana Boi
04-20-24, 12:55
Is this a Pattaya girl that someone can help me find?

https://www.xvideos.com/video.ktuotp...s_on_thai_babeMay have been leading to some White Knight having her video taken down.

Did you get some screen caps for us?

SubCmdr
04-20-24, 14:17
Maggie Mays (a gentleman's club).

Lady drink 155 THB; Room 400 THB; Selection of girls ok. Do not like the set up. Did not like the room. Not a place for me to hang out. Quality of my experience with the prostitute I selected: Good!

ElMexicant
04-20-24, 18:09
Ventured into LK for the first time in ages last night. Sorry, those group of clubs and bars aren't my cup of tea. Checked out Las Vegas and Fever. Mom said if I have nothing nice to say, then don't say anything at all.

But hey, at least my drink was only 80 baht. Yay!

SubCmdr
04-20-24, 23:56
Kink (agogo) LK Metro

Entered and went to the 2nd level. Got a nice table right in front of the stage. Ordered a drink. Scanned the girls in the club. When I enter a club I only need to find one that is attractive to me. I do not worry about what my mates that I am rolling with think. Caught the eye of a lovely Thai girl with the body of a Latina. She moved like that also. Complete nakedness is what I like to see when I am in a club. That or sexy outfits. So, the (mamason) is selling packets of 20 THB notes. I get one and start having fun with them. Tipping the girl that caught my eye.

Then the best part occurs! All the girls get on stage and it lowers. Oh yeah! A show to behold and I am taking those 20 THB notes and making it rain. Stage comes back up and the girl I have my eye one comes over to me naked and sits down. I get her a drink and the getting aquatinted phase starts. Chemistry is hella good! But the prices to take that chemistry beyond the club are not. She heads back on stage. More tipping and fun like that. She comes back over to the table. Another drink. The Cmdr is getting weak. But he just cannot justify the numbers to make it happen. She heads back on stage. It lowers again. I finish making it rain with the remaining 20 THB notes that I have. After I run out, I exit stage right.

Prices? I have no idea. When I go out to have fun; I do not worry about chump change money like drink prices. I go out to have fun! Besides it is not like I am going to buy 40 drinks. One or two for me and one or two for the girl that interests me and I'm good. I had a great time! I will return. Further reports of my adventures in the LK Metro area to follow.

Live long and may the pussy be with you, always!

LocalExplorer
04-21-24, 05:39
Soi 6 is not relaxing.

I spent 2 weeks on Soi 6. Hated it and I was not the only one.
The wonder of Pattaya is the plethora of choices, and not a universally guaranteed high quality of girls and services. The reason there are so many choices of venue types and sub-types is that each has it's own customer base. "One man's trash is another man's treasure", as the saying goes. So I am also puzzled why you would stick to one place instead of exploring the other ones. 2 weeks would be barely enough to try out enough places to conclude there is nothing in town to your liking!

Personally, I don't see any allure in Soi 6. Last time I was there, the girls were young, but pretty ugly. I can find a lot of 30-35 year-old women in town who are more physically attractive! Plus, younger girls (especially the hot ones) tend to be much more disinterested, moody and laser-focused on fleecing you, without necessarily making you happy along the way. And the service was industrial-level mechanical!

But that's just me! Others have other viewpoints, and that's fine! Sometime places also change: my favourite place from last time went downhill so much, that this time one visit was enough.

Explorer8939
04-21-24, 06:46
I was hoping Pattaya would be quieter after Songkran, but I had to wait 15 minutes for a Bolt taxi.

Maybe tomorrow (Monday) will be the start of Low Season, but last year, it was busy until May 1.

ElMexicant
04-21-24, 11:31
After being disappointed from what I saw at LK, I was a bit desperate for the rest of the night. I had already popped at WS earlier and time was running out on the rigidity of my hardness. Found a not so pretty, may even call her ugly, but please don't call her homely, girl off TF. It was a last ditch effort to salvage my evening. Charmed her with my famous pick up line I always use. She wanted mucho dinero for ST above the 2000 range, but not more than 3000. Maybe she was offended by my smile or the gangs signs I threw in my pics. Still gave me her LINE contact though. With that, I offered her 4 K to make a homemade porn flick with camera close ups and all. She hopped right on over. Add one more to my Noodle Mag account. That salvaged my night. Desperate time calls for desperate measures. Even esthetically challenge girls like her need to eat. I was happy to have given money to feed herself for a few weeks. Afterwards, I was broke as a bum, so I ate some chicken hot-dogs from 7-11 with siracha mayo. Sabrosito! Tomorrow, I will go to the temple and beg for rice and a box of Mama noodles.

LoveItHere
04-21-24, 13:54
Kink (agogo) LK Metro Complete nakedness is what I like to see when I am in a club. That or sexy outfits.

Then the best part occurs! All the girls get on stage and it lowers. Oh yeah! A show to behold and I am taking those 20 THB notes and making it rain. I get her a drink and the getting aquatinted phase starts. Chemistry is hella good! But the prices to take that chemistry beyond the club are not. The Cmdr is getting weak. But he just cannot justify the numbers to make it happen.

Prices? I have no idea. When I go out to have fun; I do not worry about chump change money like drink prices. I go out to have fun!
Confused. Were you more thrilled that ALL the girls got on stage or that the stage went up and down?

You could not justify the prices to take her home. You just could not justify the numbers to make it happen. Next you try to tell us that you had no idea what the prices were and when you go out to have fun you do not worry about chump change.

You do not see the issue with your post? Curious why you do not inform us about the price of the girl at that bar because that would actually be some real intel.

SubCmdr
04-21-24, 20:16
Confused. Were you more thrilled that ALL the girls got on stage or that the stage went up and down?The only way you could be confused is if you have never been to Kink. Is that the case?

I am confused by your confusion. The answer to your question is here:


Kink (agogo) LK Metro
Then the best part occurs! All the girls get on stage and it lowers. Oh yeah! A show to behold and I am taking those 20 THB notes and making it rain.I do not know how to put it any clearer in the English language than that!

If I put out exactly what I actually saw on the stage it would spoil it. In my opinion it is:


The wonder of Pattaya is the plethora of choices,The man is giving you some ALPHA here.


The reason there are so many choices of venue types and sub-types is that each has its own customer base. "One man's trash is another man's treasure", as the saying goes. So I am also puzzled why you would stick to one place instead of exploring the other ones. 2 weeks would be barely enough to try out enough places to conclude there is nothing in town to your liking!I tip my hat to you LocalExplorer This is a straight drop the bat and watch walk off home run.

Lone Punter
04-22-24, 06:52
Quote:"Desperate time calls for desperate measures. Even esthetically challenge girls like her need to eat. I was happy to have given money to feed herself for a few weeks. Afterwards, I was broke as a bum, so I ate some chicken hot-dogs from 7-11 with siracha mayo. ".

Maybe senor Mexicant could poste a picture or two of himself so that the readers of this forum get a better understanding of his standarts.

LP from the Holy City of Pattaya.

Forty Drinks
04-22-24, 11:01
So hotel occupancy was down in Pattaya during Songkran.

Rich Kings and Queens didn't show up like they thought.

Lots of Rice Farmers did show up though. Was it any Surprise.

I saw on Livestream lots of Ugly Portly Thai Woman's having the time of their lives. So there's that.

SubCmdr
04-22-24, 12:37
Waiting for BOLT taxi: 5 minutes. No more having Baht Bus pass me because they are packed. I am having to wait for the Baht Bus to leave at start of route points.

Foot traffic on Beach Road is much lower. The amount of customers in my favorite restaurants are lower. High season is over in my Pattaya.

Today is April 22,2024.

In order to provide better intelligence about prices for those who seek it: The baht bas costs 10 THB.


I was hoping Pattaya would be quieter after Songkran, but I had to wait 15 minutes for a Bolt taxi.

Maybe tomorrow (Monday) will be the start of Low Season, but last year, it was busy until May 1.

CaliGuy33
04-23-24, 03:05
Waiting for BOLT taxi: 5 minutes. No more having Baht Bus pass me because they are packed. I am having to wait for the Baht Bus to leave at start of route points.

Foot traffic on Beach Road is much lower. The amount of customers in my favorite restaurants are lower. High season is over in my Pattaya.

Today is April 22,2024.

In order to provide better intelligence about prices for those who seek it: The baht bas costs 10 THB.Thanks. This is a much clearer picture of whether it is busy or not in Pattaya. As opposed to "I had to wait one time 15 minutes for a Bolt so that means Pattaya is so busy. ".

Explorer8939
04-25-24, 00:43
Thanks. This is a much clearer picture of whether it is busy or not in Pattaya. As opposed to "I had to wait one time 15 minutes for a Bolt so that means Pattaya is so busy. ".Post Songkran, wait times for Bolt are very reasonable. But traffic is still terrible, probably due to Chinese tour buses, but also population growth in Pattaya.

I taxied it to Maggie Mays yesterday, and was surprised to see yet another cousin of Honey / Cindy / Plai working there (the ladies from Laos). Looking around Soi Pothole, it wasn't quiet, still plenty of customers.

Forty Drinks
04-25-24, 01:26
Thanks. This is a much clearer picture of whether it is busy or not in Pattaya. As opposed to "I had to wait one time 15 minutes for a Bolt so that means Pattaya is so busy. ".Is Bolt less than 10 baht. Hahaha.

In the many moons I've been going to Pattaya worrying about space on baht bus is not even a Concern.

Once I'll got passed by a Bus with 30 indians. Outlier peep.

WhatIsLoveBaby
04-25-24, 08:20
Hello.

Is there a place like Phrom Phong Bangkok but in Pattaya.

I mean not really a massage shop, most likely a small soapy parlor.

A place where there are like 10 girls. You chose one and the price and you go upstair in a room do your things.

SubCmdr
04-25-24, 08:41
Transportation

The Baht Bus is great if your destination is on or within walking distance of the route.

If all you are doing is hanging out in the tourist district of central Pattaya, there is no reason to worry about space on the Baht Bus. If fact, there is never a reason to worry about space on the Baht Bus. If it is full you just wait for the next one. But head into greater Pattaya during high season and you will experience what I have described in previous posts about the having Baht Busses pass you because they are packed with people.

Bolt is great. Door to door service. Comfortable. Of course if you cannot afford to use it stick with the Baht Bus. I have never paid more than 200 THB for a ride to my destination via Bolt. During my time in Pattaya, the cost difference between the Baht Bus and Bolt has never been a concern or worry of mine. When I am loaded down with packages (because of a shopping spree where I am getting respect for my cards like in the movie Pretty Woman) after shopping with my Thai girl, it makes sense not to pile onto the Bath Bus. Someone mentioned it is hot in Pattaya now. They were right.

Does the Bhat Bus have air conditioning?

Explorer8939
04-25-24, 11:40
Thanks. This is a much clearer picture of whether it is busy or not in Pattaya. As opposed to "I had to wait one time 15 minutes for a Bolt so that means Pattaya is so busy. ".Before and during Songkran, wait times for Bolt were interminable. Now Bolt is quick and cheap.

It's the usual Low Season vs High Season situation.

Explorer8939
04-26-24, 00:27
Today I make a detour to Ban Chang for a one night stay.

Before Covid, Ban Chang had a thriving bar scene, but the post-Covid scene was very quiet. I'll take another look today.

One note: getting to Ban Chang from Pattaya is much easier with the new freeway and Bolt taxi. And cheaper, too.

Banana Boi
04-26-24, 05:19
Today I make a detour to Ban Chang for a one night stay.How many girls are you taking with you?

Explorer8939
04-26-24, 05:24
I am meeting one lady from Sattahip at my hotel in Ban Chang. We will drink and fuck in the room, and then hit the bars afterwards, she is looking for a bar job.

She was talking about having some friends drive to Ban Chang to go to the bars, but the logistics probably won't work out.

Explorer8939
04-26-24, 05:35
This is probably the best time to hit the Pattaya bars (ignoring the heat), because there aren't many customers, but most ladies haven't gone home yet. The bars that were staffed up for High Season are filled with bored ladies now.

The only downside is that the top tier ladies are still booked up, either with customers still around, or they are sponsored up by lonely guys who went home months ago.

Sometimes I get messages from top tier ladies who don't have a customer, and so they have to undergo the inconvenience of finding one.

Explorer8939
04-26-24, 09:30
So, in preparation for my trip to Ban Chang, I sent the bargirl money so she can pay her barfine (1,000 baht) and meet me in Ban Chang.

I checked in to the hotel. And then she messaged me that she's sick, and can't make it.

Most likely, she took a free day from work, and her husband wanted her to stay home.

The true test is whether she sends me back the 1000 baht. If not, she lost a customer.

Anyway, I will hit the Ban Chang bars soon.

Ed Setra
04-26-24, 13:27
Today I make a detour to Ban Chang for a one night stay.

Before Covid, Ban Chang had a thriving bar scene, but the post-Covid scene was very quiet. I'll take another look today.

One note: getting to Ban Chang from Pattaya is much easier with the new freeway and Bolt taxi. And cheaper, too.There's also a regular Wednesday bar crawl to Ban Chang by minibus (tickets from Babylon Club and Babylon Paradise Lounge). About $20 if memory serves me right. The ticket includes a free bar-fine for either venue in Pattaya to be used at a later date.

Explorer8939
04-26-24, 16:44
6,000 US Navy sailors are in town. The ladies are learning how to say "Hello, Sailor" in English.

KrumeLurer
04-26-24, 20:11
How much are ladydrinks on soi 6?

Banana Boi
04-26-24, 20:16
I sent the bargirl money so she can pay her barfine (1,000 baht) and meet me in Ban Chang. <snip> The true test is whether she sends me back the 1000 baht. Of course she will. I always used to get my gogo girls to pay their barfine first and I paid them back after arrival at the meet up spot.

One time my gogo girl paid her barfine but by the time she got to my place I felt sick as fuck so she made a food and 711 run for me, took care of me for an hour, and refused to take any money including her barfine back and didn't charge me for her time. She said no big deal she got to see me and can now go eat with her friends.

Really seems like we hang out with 2 different levels of girls. Gogo vs Soi 25.

HAliluya
04-28-24, 15:55
Hi,

Newbie here, first time to Thailand managing my trip. I wonder if I wish to have a good gogo bar experience where should I go? Is the difference between Bangkok and Pattaya that much of a difference? Got six or seven days of staying wish to experience as much as possible. Got relatively flexible budget, how should I distribute the time in Pattaya and Bangkok and if I wish to try more of gogo bar should I distribute more time to Pattaya? Since I felt there are more playable event in Bangkok and I heard girls are generally prettier, so I wonder what should I do?

Forty Drinks
04-29-24, 03:38
You really can't go wrong on Soi 6. 75 baht for a Cola. Unlimited Ugly s to oogle. Hahaha.

I did find a 19 year old. No Baitoey but kind of acceptable. No intelligence but she looked FINE.

LocalExplorer
04-29-24, 07:20
I tip my hat to you LocalExplorer This is a straight drop the bat and watch walk off home run.Thanks for the kind words SubCmdr! .

Right now I am spending time in Pattaya, having some fun. My trip is all about sex, and partying! And by "partying" I mean drinking and fooling around with girls, especially in gogos and night-time GCs, rather than clubbing. I don't mind some dancing, if that gets the party started, I'm just a bit too old and a bit too fat for that (though not by much).

I noticed, that regardless of venue, all the costs of my drink (70-100 or 150) and LDs (140-220) are roughly the same everywhere. What's more, there is no logic in these differences: often an LD in a run-down beer bar will be more expensive than in an up-scale gogo. This leads me to always wonder "what will I get out of this" when I get asked for a drink by a girl I just met 15 seconds ago. I noticed some men are pretty happy with them just sitting awkwardly with barely any conversation, but honestly, if I just want to sit next to a very hot woman, I have a few friends back home who meet this criterion (smoking!) and are always happy to have a coffee with me.

Now, I don't expect an immediate BJ or heavy petting from the girls: if they sit on my lap and laugh, or wrestle and hug me a bit, or jokingly dry hump me, or just have an interesting conversation, I'm fine with that! I'm always hoping for a mini-sales pitch from a lady, one I usually don't get.

To my surprise, the most value for money (VFM) seem to be some of the gogos, the night-time "party" GCs, and BJ-focused GCs. Some of these ladies really work hard! And worse VFM? Beer bars (both for LDs and bar fines). To the extent I think we should stop considering beer bar girls as sex workers. Perhaps I'm a bit too disappointed, but those are consistently negative experiences.

To finish up, I'll throw some positive recommendations:

1) Kink! I've been here perhaps 5 times. The girls have different skill sets, from acrobatics, dancing, to the more explicit that I highly value. But it's always fun! I'll write more in another post.

2) Sugar Sugar. It's not as explicit as Kink, but the dancer I chose seemed to be having as much of a good time as me, jumping on my lap and pretending to have sex and giggling all the time. The other dancers looked jealous, and even security seemed to catch on the fun atmosphere; they remembered me the following night and were jokingly cat-calling me on the street. And I didn't even spend all that much!

3) Lips Lounge Soi Honey. Even more explicit and hands on than Kink. Let's just say you will never wonder what the LDs get you and if they're worth it. Not for the shy!

4) TF. I know it's a hit-or-miss, but for me works better than beer bars. I rejected one girl only after a video-call (she was simply ugly in real life), but the other one I called and invited, a 22-year old Sweetheart, was THE best. Very clearly inexperienced in the job (although she did have a baby), she was shy about by leaving her ID at the front desk, shy about being seen with me etc. And in bed she had no idea what she should be doing, but allowed me to take lead. That was the cutest thing since the invention of puppies!! I managed to warm her up and she got very, very wet. At some point she covered my face with a pillow, not wanting to see who she was getting the pleasure from! I met her again two days letter, just as cute, but she's loosing her shyness and looking at me in a different way, so I'm not sure if the next meetings would be / will be just as good. Still, what an experience!!

5) Telephone Bar Club. Very underrated club. Yes, it's far from Central Pattaya, but just get a Bolt bike for 30 THB! It's open from 9 AM and boasts better looking girls than in the average GC. There was one in her 20's (a 7), and a small bunch in their early 30's (also 7). There is also a 2 of an age impossible to guess, that obviously springs on you first, so don't get spooked. You can take them to the room, or get a BJ, and if you want, you can even get the BJ right there on an armchair in the bar. They're pretty hard-working!

LocalExplorer
04-29-24, 10:54
Hi,

Newbie here, first time to Thailand managing my trip. I wonder if I wish to have a good gogo bar experience where should I go? Is the difference between Bangkok and Pattaya that much of a difference? Got six or seven days of staying wish to experience as much as possible. Got relatively flexible budget, how should I distribute the time in Pattaya and Bangkok and if I wish to try more of gogo bar should I distribute more time to Pattaya? Since I felt there are more playable event in Bangkok and I heard girls are generally prettier, so I wonder what should I do?You should first ask yourself is what type of fun you want. The question you are asking us is a bit like asking "what's the best place to go on vacations? ". Some people will point to Ibiza, some to a deserted island, some to the mountains, and some to Pattaya. Bangkok is much more expensive and much more subdued, although the shopping malls in BKK have more hot young girls, that's true. So probably also true for the expensive gogo bars, but I didn't check them out. Most people think of PIMP Bangkok with horror, but some have expressed their lack of remorse in spending a small fortune.

So do you want to see nice-looking bikini ladies dancing and prancing? Bikini ladies who give you hugs? Or you want to see topless ladies? Naked ladies? Naked ladies who give you lap dances for lady drinks? Naked ones who ask you to DATY or finger them? What are your criteria for ladies? Only looks? Only age? Or would you like them to be at least a bit friendly? Or is being friendly the #1 criterion? For me looks are not enough for example, but I know a ton of people for whom only that matters.

In Pattaya you can't go wrong with Kink, you can get all the listed activities above (some activities only with 1 or 2 ladies). Windmill doesn't have a good moment. But honestly, planning in Thailand and Pattaya doesn't make sense. Once you start you'll know which way you want to go. Don't book your accommodation for more than 2 nights, do some reading up and that's it!

LocalExplorer
04-29-24, 18:24
I guess you've never been to Thailand or any other Asian country. Right?What makes you think that?

LocalExplorer
04-29-24, 18:33
I guess you've never been to Thailand or any other Asian country. Right?Well, I might have exaggerated the info a bit, OK.

Nyezhov
04-29-24, 22:45
Thanks for the kind words SubCmdr! .
!Don't get all excited, his endorsement isn't worth much.

LocalExplorer
04-30-24, 11:53
Don't get all excited, his endorsement isn't worth much.What's with all the welcome (not!) posts? SubCmdr wrote something nice, and I appreciate that. I see he's consistently complementing posters with words like "solid report! " That's great, if you do want your forum to stay alive and fresh, with new posters and members. Or do you prefer not to? There's a lot of specific info on this forum, but it's difficult to find and often a few years old. It's also pretty scarce at times for people like me, who want their insane extended holiday experiences, but without going bankrupt.

I remember some crazy reports from Soi Bongkot 8 a while back, and that was exactly the type of info I look for! I'm just not that guy sitting in a beer bar, all excited about having met a lady who genuinely really likes him (not!) , or one who will boast about his LT going clubbing with him or alternatively. Cooking dinner for him. Pattaya's a big place, and there's a lot happening. You might not be aware of everything.

I see that allegations about never having visited Thailand are kind of regular here, with even Banana Boi (over 6000 posts) joking about it. Yup, it must be a full-time job making up so many stories in a way that they can be believable. Anyway, I did get worried I wrote a bit too much below, but then I browsed through other posts and it doesn't seem so. Do tell me if I'm wrong!

All righty, time for some recommendations (please note, these are totally random, the ones most easy to review with few words):

Las Vegas Agogo. I won't be a regular, but it might be just the place for you! The girls are pretty good-looking, they do make an effort to get drinks and give enthusiastic lap dances, there's lots of grinding, hugging, and friendly conversation. But most of all, customer service is first-class, the waiters really make an effort to make sure you're happy, and suggest a new drink only once. They also bow their heads East Asian style, which it makes it all seem very polite. (Yes, it's too easy to guess why they do it).

TF again. Got a very nice 20-year old Lao lady, very thin and small (she might have been a few years older, but there's no telling). Spoke no English whatsoever (Google Translate works well) and seemed absolutely elated at meeting a rather fat white man well older than her. The kissing, the hugging, the smiles, the laughter, all the way to the end. After which she went to the bathroom and came back fully dressed ready to go. That was not totally unexpected, she deserves an Oscar for acting, but who cares, it was great! Another win for TF! Had she not dropped out of character after the finish line, she'd be coming back soon, perhaps for LT. TF Sweetheart ignored my messages for a day or two, all while sitting online on TF all day, but seems she wasn't having that much luck, she's interested again and probably coming back today or tomorrow.

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04-30-24, 13:18
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SubCmdr
05-01-24, 00:03
Thanks for the kind words SubCmdr! .You are welcome my man! It is always a pleasure to see a new poster take the time to share his experience and quality intelligence.

As for the negativity that is displayed by some posters towards me, I do not understand it either. They have never taken the time to share with me or the readership in general why they have become my personal critics. But it is not important. As it is not the critic who matters. It is the men like you and me. The men in the arena. Making the effort to share quality intelligence.

I can see that you like to party the same way I do. I appreciate the details you give for each venue and I learn a lot as this is my first visit to Thailand and I am new poster. LOL!

Right now I am spending time in Pattaya, having some fun. My trip is all about sex, and partying! And by "partying" I mean drinking and fooling around with girls, especially in gogos and night-time GCs, rather than clubbing. I don't mind some dancing, if that gets the party started, I'm just a bit too old and a bit too fat for that (though not by much).

I noticed, that regardless of venue, all the costs of my drink (70-100 or 150) and LDs (140-220) are roughly the same everywhere. What's more, there is no logic in these differences: often an LD in a run-down beer bar will be more expensive than in an up-scale gogo. This leads me to always wonder "what will I get out of this" when I get asked for a drink by a girl I just met 15 seconds ago. I noticed some men are pretty happy with them just sitting awkwardly with barely any conversation, but honestly, if I just want to sit next to a very hot woman, I have a few friends back home who meet this criterion (smoking!) and are always happy to have a coffee with me.

Now, I don't expect an immediate BJ or heavy petting from the girls: if they sit on my lap and laugh, or wrestle and hug me a bit, or jokingly dry hump me, or just have an interesting conversation, I'm fine with that! I'm always hoping for a mini-sales pitch from a lady, one I usually don't get.


To my surprise, the most value for money (VFM) seem to be some of the gogos, the night-time "party" GCs, and BJ-focused GCs. Some of these ladies really work hard! And worse VFM? Beer bars (both for LDs and bar fines). To the extent I think we should stop considering beer bar girls as sex workers. Perhaps I'm a bit too disappointed, but those are consistently negative experiences.I cannot speak to many experiences personally, but each and every time I have sat down with a girl at a beer bar, bought her a drink, felt her up, had a conversation with her, then bar fined her I have had a positive experience. It is not my first choice. But focus on the girls who choose me. If I am walking by and a girl catches my eye and gives me a "come hither" look I am going to investigate. So, far things have worked out in my favor. But as one particular critic has pointed out "I am one of those guys. ". Yes, I focus first on chemistry and not on looks or price. I do not have a problem going with a girl I do not find "model" stunning if she wins me over with her personalty during conversation. This method has worked for me in the past and has continues to work for me.

To finish up, I'll throw some positive recommendations:


1) Kink! I've been here perhaps 5 times. The girls have different skill sets, from acrobatics, dancing, to the more explicit that I highly value. But it's always fun! I'll write more in another post.Agreed. I have a great time each and every time I step foot in the place. Bar Fine: 1500; Short Time: 3000; Long Time: 5000.


2) Sugar Sugar. It's not as explicit as Kink, but the dancer I chose seemed to be having as much of a good time as me, jumping on my lap and pretending to have sex and giggling all the time. The other dancers looked jealous, and even security seemed to catch on the fun atmosphere; they remembered me the following night and were jokingly cat-calling me on the street. And I didn't even spend all that much!I too thought the dancers were hot. The one that came over to me was fun. But one of the things I do not like about agogos is that most to not allow you fuck right then. Most of the time if I am in an agogo and a girl gets me hot I want to take her right there. Spontaneous sex it what gets my engine revving.


3) Lips Lounge Soi Honey. Even more explicit and hands on than Kink. Let's just say you will never wonder what the LDs get you and if they're worth it. Not for the shy!Need to check it out. Sounds like a place for me.


4) TF. I know it's a hit-or-miss, but for me works better than beer bars. I rejected one girl only after a video-call (she was simply ugly in real life), but the other one I called and invited, a 22-year old Sweetheart, was THE best. Very clearly inexperienced in the job (although she did have a baby), she was shy about by leaving her ID at the front desk, shy about being seen with me etc. And in bed she had no idea what she should be doing, but allowed me to take lead. That was the cutest thing since the invention of puppies!! I managed to warm her up and she got very, very wet. At some point she covered my face with a pillow, not wanting to see who she was getting the pleasure from! I met her again two days letter, just as cute, but she's loosing her shyness and looking at me in a different way, so I'm not sure if the next meetings would be / will be just as good. Still, what an experience!!TF is most defiantly like the assorted box of chocolates. You never know what you are going to get. My experiences have been very positive. Even sometimes when a girls shows up that I do not think I am actually going to be able to get into, they provide surprising good sexual experiences. Do I have low standards? I most certainly do. But I would rather have friends in low places than to be bragging about my private banking services (who give a fuck).


5) Telephone Bar Club. Very underrated club. Yes, it's far from Central Pattaya, but just get a Bolt bike for 30 THB! It's open from 9 AM and boasts better looking girls than in the average GC. There was one in her 20's (a 7), and a small bunch in their early 30's (also 7). There is also a 2 of an age impossible to guess, that obviously springs on you first, so don't get spooked. You can take them to the room, or get a BJ, and if you want, you can even get the BJ right there on an armchair in the bar. They're pretty hard-working!I have heard of the place but I have never been there. With your report I will most certainly change that, quick fast and in a hurry.

Some people are positive by nature. I think you are one of those people and once again I am going to thank your for taking the time and energy to write another solid report. You are batting 1000.

Nyezhov
05-01-24, 00:19
What's with all the welcome (not!) posts? SubCmdr wrote something nice, and I appreciate that. I see he's consistently complementing posters with words like "solid report! " That's great, if you do want your forum to stay alive and fresh, with new posters and members. Or do you prefer not to? There's a lot of specific info on this forum, but it's difficult to find and often a few years old. It's also pretty scarce at times for people like me, who want their insane extended holiday experiences, but without going bankrupt.

I remember some crazy reports from Soi Bongkot 8 a while back, and that was exactly the type of info I look for! I'm just not that guy sitting in a beer bar, all excited about having met a lady who genuinely really likes him (not!) , or one who will boast about his LT going clubbing with him or alternatively. Cooking dinner for him. Pattaya's a big place, and there's a lot happening. You might not be aware of everything.

I see that allegations about never having visited Thailand are kind of regular here, with even Banana Boi (over 6000 posts) joking about it. Yup, it must be a full-time job making up so many stories in a way that they can be believable. Anyway, I did get worried I wrote a bit too much below, but then I browsed through other posts and it doesn't seem so. Do tell me if I'm wrong!

All righty, time for some recommendations (please note, these are totally random, the ones most easy to review with few words):

Las Vegas Agogo. I won't be a regular, but it might be just the place for you! The girls are pretty good-looking, they do make an effort to get drinks and give enthusiastic lap dances, there's lots of grinding, hugging, and friendly conversation. But most of all, customer service is first-class, the waiters really make an effort to make sure you're happy, and suggest a new drink only once. They also bow their heads East Asian style, which it makes it all seem very polite. (Yes, it's too easy to guess why they do it).

TF again. Got a very nice 20-year old Lao lady, very thin and small (she might have been a few years older, but there's no telling). Spoke no English whatsoever (Google Translate works well) and seemed absolutely elated at meeting a rather fat white man well older than her. The kissing, the hugging, the smiles, the laughter, all the way to the end. After which she went to the bathroom and came back fully dressed ready to go. That was not totally unexpected, she deserves an Oscar for acting, but who cares, it was great! Another win for TF! Had she not dropped out of character after the finish line, she'd be coming back soon, perhaps for LT. TF Sweetheart ignored my messages for a day or two, all while sitting online on TF all day, but seems she wasn't having that much luck, she's interested again and probably coming back today or tomorrow.Dude, after 30 years of Southeast Asia you learn to separate the wheat from the chaff. You can tell who is full of shit and you can tell who isn't. You can even tell who's never been here before and has nothing to add other than made up bullshit. It could very well be that I am jaded, but after being on this board since it's inception, I have read more fantasy porn than any human being should possibly be subjected to. The fantasy porn adds nothing to the sport as far as I am concerned but I don't make those decisions nor is my input even wanted or needed. But, whatever floats your boat.

Now as to SubCmdr, who should more appropriately be called Snipebuttboy, you may want to exercise due diligence and do a little research on some other boards, specifically those dealing with the United States. I'm sure you'll be amazed, not that it matters one way or the other because it's the internet.

SubCmdr
05-01-24, 07:34
Now as to SubCmdr, who should more appropriately be called Snipebuttboy, you may want to exercise due diligence and do a little research on some other boards, specifically those dealing with the United States. I'm sure you'll be amazed, not that it matters one way or the other because it's the internet.As for Nyezhov, who should more appropriately be called WHWMF (White hoodie wearing mother fucker), I would find it interesting here an expansion of his comments since I have not lived in the (Dis) United States of America for over 10 years. Where as he has been in one area of the world for 30 years, I have been traveling the world for over the last 30 years. Yes, I have built quite a body of work that covers four countries on ISG.

He is full of negativity. I am not. I will not put up with his false accusations that I engage in criminal activities, impersonation and abuse of girls. If that is how he choses to think, in order to live and get by day to day (because of reasons) that is on him. But rest assured that his opinions of me and accusations are not based on on shred of evidence or fact. He cannot even figure out if I am a tourist or not. Or if I have ever visited Pattaya. Those statements were made in his own words in his posts.

The only thing anyone should be amazed by is how I take my time to share quality information with the readership. Actually none of us need to. This was originally posted in the Pattaya Reports thread. No one has pointed out a single factual statement that I have made that is untrue. That is what is valuable. It would also be interesting to can you please explain how you have so much to say about Pattaya but in your own words say that you have not been to Pattaya for the last 10 years. All of this is ok, because according to him it does not matter one way or the other as this is the internet. Therefore what he has to say about me does not matter one way or the other as this is the internet. Funny how that works out.

LocalExplorer
05-01-24, 15:05
OK, so I see there is some competition and perhaps even conflict between some of the users, but I don't plan to take sides. I'm just here to write about my own experiences and to pass answers to questions that I asked myself recently, and that I feel can be helpful to others. I won't be posting detailed stream-of-consciousness what-I-did-today stories, I'll try to extract and group information together by subject, so it's more of a compendium of sorts, or just random short recommendations. For people like me.

So today is about Pattaya's gogos. I was curious what the differences are and why I should go to venue X vs venue Z. I mentioned liking Kink and having been a fan of Windmill, but what about all the rest? I focused on LK and the wider Buakhao area, as opposed to Walking Street, which is known for now being a focal point for families on holidays, men who have never been to gogos etc. Although to be fair, the ones in WS are so numerous, they can't all be just tourist attractions!

Throughout a week or so, at around 9:30 PM (sometimes slightly later), I would visit one or two gogos to start the evening, drink a beer, perhaps buy a lady drink, have a little chat and move on. So it was rare I would ask about stuff like barfining, I was interested chiefly in the entertainment. I visited: Kink, Sugar Sugar, Dolls LK, Las Vegas, Paradise, Crystal Club, and Fever in LK; Red Hot & Blue and Stunners in Buakhao; Playgirlz and Heaven Above in Boomerang and Windmill in WS. I also visited Pinup previous time around and. Katoeys Are Us, out of curiosity.

My general conclusion is that non of these clubs are bad, I would claim the differences with few exceptions, are mainly about how fully dressed the women are (all full bikini; all full bikini with 1 dancer topless. Which was the case in Crystal Club I believe; all topless), how much pressure the staff puts on you to buy drinks, and how open to having a laugh the girls are. But that might depend on your luck, time of the day etc. - you definitely want to consider coming back later if the place is empty. Feel free to do a self-guided gogo crawl, it's probably the simplest method.

So what are the exceptions, outliers and funny visits?

Kink. Obviously!

Stunners. This is my new catch. It's a very small (narrow) gogo, and located pretty far from LK, separate from all the other venues. It's essentially "the local gogo", just like you have your local shop, your local library and your local pub. The customers are in large majority living locally (mainly farang), the atmosphere is light and unofficial, the girls are chatting even when on stage, but it's in a good way, the customer doesn't feel left out. It's a low-stress atmosphere. The mamasan sat next to me and started talking, which at first made me wary, but turned out she just really wanted to know what I'd like. I didn't really tell her, but the first girl to approach me seemed pretty good looking, but most of all extremely friendly, so I bought her a drink. It was fun, so when she offered for a friend of her's to join, I agreed. The girls were very easy going, eager to please and easy to joke with, and I found ways of making the first one burst out laughing consistently absolutely every single time, at wish. What can I say, that was a lot of fun! The funniest part was when they looked at my drinks' bill (reasonable.) and they were alarmed. But that just tells you what type of customers they have.

Windmill. Two years ago I loved it even more than Kink. The girls were perhaps not as good-looking as in Kink, but they were wilder and more enthusiastic. Some would look at me as if they're just going to rape me there and then! This time around, a bit confused by the changes and the 2 Windmills, I entered the new Windmill on the left, were I was shoved (gently, but still) by staff to a table on the ground floor, before I could even look around. I got high-pressure drink requests, but there wasn't much happening, not as much as in Kink anyway. Well, I drunk up my own beer, payed and left. 
 A few days later I rolled by, this time I avoided the crowded staff in front of the "new" Windmill on the left and pointed straight to the "old" Windmill. They got the message. Anyway, I went in, and straight upstairs. There were 8 girls who forgot to put on their underwear standing on the main stage, and 2-3 more girls sitting naked in an extension of the stage. Customers close to the stage were mainly 60-year old local expat regulars, all drinking their draft beers, just 1 or 2 buying LDs, but all pretty happy. I bought an LD, got a lap dance and some touching, it was quite OK, but Kink still wins for me. At least this time around. But if you stay closer to Walking Street, might be worth a try.

Sugar Sugar. Mentioned in a previous post.

Playgirlz. I felt somewhat out of place there. It wasn't too crowded, but I was actually told twice "you can't sit here" without being told where I can sit. But ah well, perhaps they were having a bad day. Anyway, I sit down, get offered the card, and the first pages are bottles of alcohol for 5000 THB etc. , before I get to the beer section at the very end. Hmm. Then there are these ladies walking around with enormous bunches of fake plastic THB bills around their necks. I've seen similar in other gogos, but these were much larger. It was all screaming, at least to me: spend all the money you have. Yes, I know that's their brand, and I went out of curiosity, I can even imagine customers who will want to throw around that cash! But honestly, I was hoping for something more eccentric, like (fake) pearls everywhere, gold paint, some sort of throne and crown for the big spender. Perhaps something more gangsta, like in 50 Cent's PIMP music video! Either way, curiosity satisfied.

Red Hot & Blue. Gogo / GC hybrid, or that's how they market themselves. It was pretty empty, I was the 3rd or 4th customer. There was one guy, perhaps Indian, who did not abandon eye contact with his phone even for a second for a good 15 minutes, and looked very sad. A roughly 55-year old white man was playing Connect-4 with a lady (in a gogo! And I think there was an Asian customer just sitting with a beer. Three ladies were prancing on a mini-stage, no eye contact with anybody. Actually, I was having a good time and giggling, because it felt a bit like a scene in a movie. Hoping to lighten up the mood, I started prancing myself, the 3 girls eventually caught on, synched with me and smiled. Even the Indian dude took eyes off his phone and started laughing, clapping and waving his arms. Yuppie! I sat down with a smile. The waitress ran up to me and asked: 3 lady drinks for the ladies? Well, no. I answered. - Oh! - answered the waitress and ladies, and they all immediately left to smoke cigarettes outside. It was still a memorable and fun visit, but not for the reasons I'd imagined. Might be more conventional fun when crowded.

Heaven Above. Supposedly a gogo / GC hybrid. Some of the girls are stunners as per reputation, yes, but most are pretty average IMHO, and I noticed one that I would rate as a 3. The girls mostly dance on the table (well, they bend their legs), which I've been told is a wonder for leg lovers, but not for me. The girls are pretty insistent about drinks. It's worth noting, that this club does have its wild enthusiasts. I'm not quite sure where that comes from, I did not notice any giggles, shenanigans, or enthusiastic conversations, mostly topless women sitting next to men and sipping on their drinks. But ah well, whatever rocks your boat! I bought a drink for one young girl, but all she did was sit next to me, nod her head and sometimes smile awkwardly, with very little conversation despite some level of English. I wasn't very happy, but indeed I should have tested the water more: my bad! So I tried switching to an older lady who kept catching eye contact with me and smiling and smiling. But somehow her enthusiasm subsided, and then she misunderstood my lady drink orders. Nothing terrible, but all together that was a bit of a mood killer. Of course I could have sorted it out with the boss, but I just felt like moving on to the next place.

Katoeys Are Us. I went there 2 years ago or so, it's a ladyboy gogo. Yes, I went there on purpose, although I have (nor had) any sexual interest in ladyboys. I don't know how things have changed since then, but if they haven't changed too much, I'd recommend a visit if you're a tourist! Just be nice, and absolutely never laugh in their faces. That's universal advice for interaction with anyone, but I just have to mention it. So preferably, go there before drinking and not drunk. The performers were very nice, no pressure whatsoever, and it was all interesting, a one-time experience that satisfied my curiosity. I even bought a LD (or LBD) for some conversation. It was quite the opposite experience of what you might think passing by certain spots in the Buakhao area. Anyone who's been to Central Pattaya must know what I'm talking about.

Pinup. Also visited 2 years ago out of curiosity, but I hear from other forums that little has changed. It's mainly a pickup spot for the hottest and most pricey stunners, visited mostly by Asian customers. It's worth buying a beer and spending 20 or 30 minutes just looking at the scene, even if you don't plan to "buy".

Explorer8939
05-02-24, 02:14
At the request of a bargirl, I went to Walking Street last. It was generally less busy than High Season, but still plenty of customers.

Skyfall: the quality of the ladies is less than High Season, probably the top tier has been sponsored up. There were some 50 year old granny types dancing.

Windmill 2: pretty much the same girls as the original Windmill, and the same antics. Still have old Farangs playing with the ladies, but now more Chinese customers, much younger than the Farangs, which thrills the ladies, but the Chinese don't stay long. I suspect the Chinese are looking for ladies to bring back to the home country, but they can't present Windmill ladies to Mom in China.

TiredOf
05-02-24, 11:11
Anyone used this and can share review?

Will transport me from airport to pattaya with 2 ladies and full service.

Sounds fun and good.

But is there any risk using this? What if there's some checking in between by police or something (Asking because such inspections can happen in my country).

Also even if no inspection, are service good?

Any alternative also if you know please share, I couldn't find any. And Devils den also claims them as only one providing such service.

Thanks!

SubCmdr
05-02-24, 20:38
What kind of vehicle? What is the cost of the service?


Anyone used this and can share review?

Will transport me from airport to pattaya with 2 ladies and full service.

Sounds fun and good.

But is there any risk using this? What if there's some checking in between by police or something (Asking because such inspections can happen in my country).

Also even if no inspection, are service good?

Any alternative also if you know please share, I couldn't find any. And Devils den also claims them as only one providing such service.

Thanks!

Explorer8939
05-03-24, 03:48
What kind of vehicle? What is the cost of the service?https://devilsdenthailand.com/airport-full-service-vip-pic-up/

Explorer8939
05-03-24, 03:50
Anyone used this and can share review?

Will transport me from airport to pattaya with 2 ladies and full service.

Sounds fun and good.

But is there any risk using this? What if there's some checking in between by police or something (Asking because such inspections can happen in my country).

Also even if no inspection, are service good?

Any alternative also if you know please share, I couldn't find any. And Devils den also claims them as only one providing such service.

Thanks!The chances of you being dinged by the police for riding in this vehicle are astronomically low.

I only see police cars on the highway when there has been an accident.

TiredOf
05-03-24, 04:03
What kind of vehicle? What is the cost of the service?https://devilsdenthailand.com/airport-full-service-vip-pic-up/

This is what I was talking about.

Note: I did not try it, nor even heard from a friend. I just randomly came across it while browsing and indeed it was exactly the thing which I was looking for. Starting the trip with a bang as soon as I lands.

Well, tbf, price does seem on a higher side. But I won't find if service is good and hassle-free, that is why I asked if someone experienced here know about it.

Also, alternative of this, if any!

Cheers.

SubCmdr
05-03-24, 05:22
Passion Gentlemans Club

Absolutely wild that that it is located right in the middle of a residential neighborhood. Enter through a door into the courtyard, where depending upon the time, you will find any number of naked girls with their chosen partners from the club in the pool. Walk into the main club and the place is dimly lit except over the bar and pool table. At the pool table you will find the girls of the club strutting their stuff and you can play with them if you like. There girls are in various outfits that depending upon your tastes you might find sexy. I know I did. Girls will approach you and you can invite them to sit down with you or you can politely decline. On certain days if you buy enough drinks you get free food at the buffet. I did not sample as on one day the offering did not appeal to me and on the other day I visited it was just to drink and chill with my mate who was leaving Thailand the next day.

I remember the music being ok, if a little dated. TV screens all over with various stuff playing. I kept my eyes on the girls in the place. Attractive girl comes up to my table and I invite her to sit down. She has the type of body I like. Lady Drink is purchased and her beautiful breasts come out and I'm feeling them up and sucking on nipple. Grabbing bare ass and rubbing her pussy. Conversation is had about how things work in the place. And we have an agreement. Off to the room.

Wow! So there is not confusion by those who are confused easily will not be covering any sexual details or prices. Much to much criticism up in here over a grown mans choices. So if you want to know more hit me via PM. This room was like a suite. It was huge with an entire room next to it was a bathroom. Complete with two sinks, a bathtub and shower. It is a freak party room. Definitely for a threesome. Outstanding! As was the performance of the lady I picked. Afterwards, and I really like this, we had a little time left over so she sat on the couch with me and we made small talk with each other while I continued to feel her up and enjoy her body until time ran out. It took the edge of what can be mechanical sex in the industrial sex capital of the world. It was nice. Then back to the bar. I thought about round two with a different girl but instead decided to try another gentleman's club.

Say what you want about me. I put meat in the pot with quality reports about my adventures in Pattaya. If I do say so myself. You know what, I sure do. So the next time someone writes I have no credibility, look at their post count. Better yet do some due diligence and check out the information they are providing. If anyone every finds something factually incorrect in my posts, please point it and provide the correct information. I am not perfect. I have been known to make an error. They are few and far between But I have been known to make them. It will help me and others learn more. That is why I post, so that maybe just one person finds the information useful when they are visiting Pattaya and it helps them out. It is also my way of giving back to everyone who has provided me with some much information (here and in person) over the years!

Enjoy my work!

Forty Drinks
05-03-24, 05:35
Elon Musk where are you.

What planet am I on to think LK metro agogos are Horrible.

Downandup
05-03-24, 08:09
Anyone used this and can share review?

Will transport me from airport to pattaya with 2 ladies and full service.
Thanks!Sadly Devil's Den is shut, probably for good. It was a victim of Covid, then the landlord raised the rent as LK Metro grew popular. The final nail was the owner had a near fatal medical condition and has been recovering for a long time. There was an attempt to restart it at a new location but the deal fell through and since then no one has heard much more.

AntiKlpd
05-03-24, 09:33
Every word of my diary, good or bad, is true. On this trip I've written about having a chest infection, falling victim to a Tinder bait and switch, the soi 7 girl who didn't want to have sex, being quoted high prices at times, being stood up by a ThaiFriendly chick. I bet you're perfectly happy to accept all of those things happened as described. Yet when I talk about my positive experiences, which far outweigh the negative ones, you call foul.

It doesn't exactly reflect well on the kind of time you yourself must have if you assume anyone who fucks pretty girls must be lying!

Ps when did I say I got a 'hottie off the street for 1K'? I didn't. You're so desperate to criticise you'll even make things up, which is ironic really.Hello Sir Lancelot, do you remember our little evening in India, I am in Pattaya today, how about a beer or two.

Chers.

Anti.

LittleBigMan
05-03-24, 09:52
Sadly Devil's Den is shut, probably for good. It was a victim of Covid, then the landlord raised the rent as LK Metro grew popular. The final nail was the owner had a near fatal medical condition and has been recovering for a long time. There was an attempt to restart it at a new location but the deal fell through and since then no one has heard much more.This is correct information. I had a friend who use to use the Den exclusively on his 3 week trip everyday he would have one of their girls or a repeat. Based on their general prices for girl prior to Covid in house it was customary to pick too girls fuor 90 minutes you could also book a lady overnight 10 pm till 6 am then around 4000 baht.

He told me the service I believe the vehicle used was a Toyota Communter Van those you see dropping and picking up tourist at the airport basically 12 seaters. The Van was custom converted like a Limo painted Black.

He indicated he nevered use the service girls and rarely as far as he knew rarely booked but because he knew the owner vip customer they did pick him up. It wa s a long time but based on general cost of girls time is money, two plus hours each way it was well over 10,000 somehow 20,000 clicks in my head as the number.

As for police last thing to worry.

Explorer8939
05-03-24, 15:37
Walking around Soi Chaiyapoon, plenty of ladies in the bars, but very few customers. Maybe the GCs have customers.

Great time to be a customer in Pattaya.

Forty Drinks
05-04-24, 04:40
Walking around Soi Chaiyapoon, plenty of ladies in the bars, but very few customers. Maybe the GCs have customers.

Great time to be a customer in Pattaya.Not Hating on you but it's been like this since Caveman days.

It's just Raining old white men. 24/7. Nothing wrong with this.

Explorer8939
05-05-24, 01:35
Not Hating on you but it's been like this since Caveman days.

It's just Raining old white men. 24/7. Nothing wrong with this.A month ago, many of the bars on Soi Chaiyapoon had customers, some were filled. Now most are empty of customers, and the ladies are bored.

Low Season is upon us.

Having said that, traffic is still bad, due to the many Chinese tour buses, but also because of an influx of Bangkok visitors. But after May 5, the holiday will end, and things should get a lot quieter.

I went to Maggie Mays Jomtien last night, pretty much the same as the original.

Cusland
05-05-24, 06:38
Walking around Soi Chaiyapoon, plenty of ladies in the bars, but very few customers. Maybe the GCs have customers.

Great time to be a customer in Pattaya.Traffic is brutal at the moment. Walking street is absolutely heaving every night. It depends on where you like to monger and the standard of girls you go for.

Cusland
05-05-24, 06:45
Passion Gentlemans Club

Absolutely wild that that it is located right in the middle of a residential neighborhood. Enter through a door into the courtyard, where depending upon the time, you will find any number of naked girls with their chosen partners from the club in the pool. Walk into the main club and the place is dimly lit except over the bar and pool table. At the pool table you will find the girls of the club strutting their stuff and you can play with them if you like. There girls are in various outfits that depending upon your tastes you might find sexy. I know I did. Girls will approach you and you can invite them to sit down with you or you can politely decline. On certain days if you buy enough drinks you get free food at the buffet. I did not sample as on one day the offering did not appeal to me and on the other day I visited it was just to drink and chill with my mate who was leaving Thailand the next day.

I remember the music being ok, if a little dated. TV screens all over with various stuff playing. I kept my eyes on the girls in the place. Attractive girl comes up to my table and I invite her to sit down. She has the type of body I like. Lady Drink is purchased and her beautiful breasts come out and I'm feeling them up and sucking on nipple. Grabbing bare ass and rubbing her pussy. Conversation is had about how things work in the place. And we have an agreement. Off to the room.

Wow! So there is not confusion by those who are confused easily will not be covering any sexual details or prices. Much to much criticism up in here over a grown mans choices. So if you want to know more hit me via PM. This room was like a suite. It was huge with an entire room next to it was a bathroom. Complete with two sinks, a bathtub and shower. It is a freak party room. Definitely for a threesome. Outstanding! As was the performance of the lady I picked. Afterwards, and I really like this, we had a little time left over so she sat on the couch with me and we made small talk with each other while I continued to feel her up and enjoy her body until time ran out. It took the edge of what can be mechanical sex in the industrial sex capital of the world. It was nice. Then back to the bar. I thought about round two with a different girl but instead decided to try another gentleman's club.

Say what you want about me. I put meat in the pot with quality reports about my adventures in Pattaya. If I do say so myself. You know what, I sure do. So the next time someone writes I have no credibility, look at their post count. Better yet do some due diligence and check out the information they are providing. If anyone every finds something factually incorrect in my posts, please point it and provide the correct information. I am not perfect. I have been known to make an error. They are few and far between But I have been known to make them. It will help me and others learn more. That is why I post, so that maybe just one person finds the information useful when they are visiting Pattaya and it helps them out. It is also my way of giving back to everyone who has provided me with some much information (here and in person) over the years!

Enjoy my work!It's on the last soi tucked away in the corner of a residential neighbourhood and hard to find if you don't know where to look (perfect for hiding from the Mrs) and is worth the trip. I have never seen anyone naked in the pool though in about 20 visits. Always good fun way to spend a few hours in the afternoon though.

Explorer8939
05-05-24, 11:40
Not Hating on you but it's been like this since Caveman days.

It's just Raining old white men. 24/7. Nothing wrong with this.I have no idea what you are trying to say here.

My point was that there is no a shortage of old white men on Soi Chaiapoon, due to Low Season. Do you have different observations?

Explorer8939
05-05-24, 11:44
I use different metrics to gauge how busy Pattaya is now. One is visual observation, but another is how many ladies ping me looking for a customer. Particularly, high volume ladies, the know and who get 10,000 baht a night during High Season. When they start asking to come see me for 2000 baht, you know things are dead.

And soon, the guys who fell in love with a bar girl in January stop sending her money, and she comes looking for a customer, too.

LocalExplorer
05-05-24, 11:56
In a week or so, I'll do an addendum to my gogo review. I have some new thoughts and new reviews, but I'll post them together. Today I'll try to answer another question I myself have had, but this one is a much tougher one.

The Question is: Which lady should I choose? Let's assume I'm somewhere between mid-30's and mid-40's, and I'm overweight (an XL, but just single X). My interests are in sex and having fun! It might not be the same as when I was 20, but I can still manage to do both pretty well.

Age and looks. The girl's age and looks are definitely very important, and that's what most people would focus on. As I pointed out with the 2 TF stories, finding young chicks who will perform well in bed is definitely possible, but that doesn't mean easy. Although I have seen a man 10 years my senior, and probably double my weight with a young girl I was very jealous of.

It's worth noting however, that some less attractive ladies really took to heart the famous 1970's slogan of a certain car rental company: "We're #2, we try harder". The younger a girl, the more likely she will: forget about you (goes to the toilet, gets distracted, never comes back); be disinterested in what you want (won't listen to hints, if you gently express dislike in what she's doing, she will assume something's wrong with you and demand a new drink); not put much effort in at all. She knows that even if you leave, the next customer will come and go straight for her.

So it's pretty much a balancing game, and your choice of option depends on how much effort, time and money you want to put in on a given day.

Indicators. I agree that getting called out on the street, or approached, might be an indicator a lady likes you / dislikes you less than other passers-by or customers, thus giving hope of a better experience in bed. The problem is most of those calling out are grannies at least 10 years my senior, and often much more. Hard pass there. I occasionally bump into young girls asking for my attention, but usually during the first drink I do confirm that they are drink queens. I mean that's fine, but that's not what I'm looking for. So now I usually pass the suspiciously hot young girls too, just not wanting to spend 10-15 minutes feigning patience.

Beer bar girls. So let's talk about beer bar girls specifically. I have to say, in most places like Tree Town, Myth Night, Soi Diana etc, I have to do quite a lot of walking before I catch eye contact with someone outside the 2 categories I mentioned above (grannies and the young), and not eye contact of the "WTF you want" type. Soi Pothole admittedly is better in that regard, thanks SubCmdr for the tip. Once I get myself seated, we go through the entire drink-buying-checking-her-attitude-hugging-and-touching ceremony. Very often the ladies will be surprised, or even puzzled, that I'm not there to complain about failed love, family problems or the like. When we go back to the hotel, usually things cool down. The lady will usually take an "ok, let's get past this" attitude, and the sex is usually bad. First of all, they want to get on top of me, and very quickly get tired. That's fine, I can get on top and pump away, I'm more fit than these girls give me credit for. They are often upset in the "this was not part of the plan" manner, and often after a few minutes of banging, they try to convince me I won't be able to finish. I can also see by their face that they're really NOT enjoying it. Or their faces show joy, but their hand gestures are saying "hurry tf up!" and show some irritation. In response, I do slow down more often than I care to admit. In quite a few cases, they try to do as little as possible from the very start, touching my willy with 2 fingers, chuckling in inappropriate situations and such. It's rarely ever good sex.

GC girls. The problems I mentioned occur also with masseuses, gogo girls and GC girls, but much more rarely. GC girls can sometimes be a letdown, if you choose the hottest one in an establishment. But usually a GC is the McD of sex (the non-US McD) - yes, perhaps it's not the best presentation or the best taste, but you know exactly what you're getting and you will not be hungry. Problem is, if you're a foodie, setting up camp in McD will not leave you satisfied. However, if you ever find yourself "hungry" and tired, that's the #1 place to go to.

TF. My experience (not statistically significant) is that the better encounters are with TF girls rather than beer bar girls, and the former can be much hotter. And much cheaper: same price no LDs no bar fines, so you can afford to sometimes get it wrong. The key here is you should really screen the TF girls well. I focus on the ones that seem to have relatively little experience. I study the profile, the pictures, and search for any reviews out there. I'm very suspicious of any 10's, 9's and even 8's. And I do a video-connection before inviting them in, crossing off the girls who try to avoid it.

SubCmdr
05-05-24, 16:05
It's on the last soi tucked away in the corner of a residential neighbourhood and hard to find if you don't know where to look (perfect for hiding from the Mrs) and is worth the trip. I have never seen anyone naked in the pool though in about 20 visits. Always good fun way to spend a few hours in the afternoon though.I guess I just got lucky since on my first visit there was a customer with two girls in the pool with him. Drunk and in a good mood (in contrast to many of the posters in the Pattaya Reports thread) and wanting to hold a conversation with me. It is not customary for me to have conversations with naked men unless I am at a freak party or a nude resort. I was polite and stopped a chatted for a moment to check out the naked girls. You do realize that having the girls accompany you to the pool has a separate cost? It is not included in the standard "room service" fee. Or maybe I was just a mark since I was new. I am in agreement with you. It is worth the trip and I have been back several times.

Forty Drinks
05-06-24, 01:45
A month ago, many of the bars on Soi Chaiyapoon had customers, some were filled. Now most are empty of customers, and the ladies are bored.

Low Season is upon us.

Having said that, traffic is still bad, due to the many Chinese tour buses, but also because of an influx of Bangkok visitors. But after May 5, the holiday will end, and things should get a lot quieter.

I went to Maggie Mays Jomtien last night, pretty much the same as the original.Traffic on 2nd road is bad because two lanes are closed down.

Itty bitty detail you fail to DisClose. Hahaha.

Forty Drinks
05-06-24, 02:50
Old women rates in Pattaya.

Are they really earning 10,000 a night during high season. Hahaha 🤣 hahaha. Hahaha.

Who are paying these rates. Certainly not Sir Lancelot and his brethen.

XXL
05-06-24, 03:35
...
Low Season is upon us.

Having said that, traffic is still bad, due to the many Chinese tour buses, but also because of an influx of Bangkok visitors. But after May 5, the holiday will end, and things should get a lot quieter.

....Traffic will remain bad because they've been tearing up 2nd road again.

Expat American
05-06-24, 05:05
In a week or so, I'll do an addendum to my gogo review. I have some new thoughts and new reviews, but I'll post them together. Today I'll try to answer another question I myself have had, but this one is a much tougher one.

The Question is: Which lady should I choose? Let's assume I'm somewhere between mid-30's and mid-40's, and I'm overweight (an XL, but just single X). My interests are in sex and having fun! It might not be the same as when I was 20, but I can still manage to do both pretty well.


.The fact that is sounds like so much work to get a good sexual experience with a good looking girl in Pattaya tells me just how downhill the place has gone. Yes the quantity is there and if all you need is a naked girl opening her legs, you can get what you want. But at my age I want and need much more. I found in BKK the MPs are the most reliable and in Patts the GCs. Of course I have found occasional gems on TF, Beach road, Gogos and other venues as well. But over all the Pattaya scene is hugely mercenary now and the sweetness that the girls had 10-20 years ago is extremely rare to be found. Now even 19 year old is tatted up, pumped full of Silicone and a rushed attitude. I'm glad I'm old enough to have experienced better days there. And have the pics and videos to remind me!

Black Boots
05-06-24, 05:20
Hello Guys.

Just a report of my forays in Thailand post Covid. Was in Pattaya for one night, got an accommodation from Agoda it was a dump, my take is to arrive there and scout for one, average prices around 600 to 1000 bath for a nice place. Hit the walking street and came across many freelancers, many of them past their prime. , got talking to one who was cute and nice, agreed for 2500 for whole night, went around the place for minor shopping and later to the hotel, the deed was normal missionary no great effort to serve from her side. After a while told her to leave as I wanted to explore the bar scene.

Seems many a business has been cornered by Indians and the service aspect or cleanliness is not good.

Trust you guys will too have a blast as Thailand is back in action, never disappoints and has something for each one.

BB.

LocalExplorer
05-06-24, 08:30
The fact that is sounds like so much work to get a good sexual experience with a good looking girl in Pattaya tells me just how downhill the place has gone. Yes the quantity is there and if all you need is a naked girl opening her legs, you can get what you want. But at my age I want and need much more. I found in BKK the MPs are the most reliable and in Patts the GCs. Of course I have found occasional gems on TF, Beach road, Gogos and other venues as well. But over all the Pattaya scene is hugely mercenary now and the sweetness that the girls had 10-20 years ago is extremely rare to be found. Now even 19 year old is tatted up, pumped full of Silicone and a rushed attitude. I'm glad I'm old enough to have experienced better days there. And have the pics and videos to remind me!Well, it is what it is. Pattaya used to be full of sweet young girls because it was way poorer, the foreigners were fewer and information did not circle around so freely. It's not that Thailand is fully catching up with the West as far as standards of living are concerned, it's just that the drastic drastic differences that used to be are slowly going away. China and Thailand are actually almost perfectly world-average, but that's enough to make an enormous difference. The so-called change in customer demographics in Pattaya is another manifestation of the same effect. You can see similar changes elsewhere, for instance South American tourism is now heavily dominated by Brazilians. And almost anyone in the world can afford a smartphone.

Quality sex is kind of difficult to find in Pattaya, that's some work to be done, but adult entertainment is thriving! That's world class and still pretty cheap. And I absolutely love it.

Turgid
05-06-24, 14:59
The fact that is sounds like so much work to get a good sexual experience with a good looking girl in Pattaya tells me just how downhill the place has gone. Yes the quantity is there and if all you need is a naked girl opening her legs, you can get what you want. But at my age I want and need much more. I found in BKK the MPs are the most reliable and in Patts the GCs. Of course I have found occasional gems on TF, Beach road, Gogos and other venues as well. But over all the Pattaya scene is hugely mercenary now and the sweetness that the girls had 10-20 years ago is extremely rare to be found. Now even 19 year old is tatted up, pumped full of Silicone and a rushed attitude. I'm glad I'm old enough to have experienced better days there. And have the pics and videos to remind me!We live in times when profit is the most important thing in the world. Reading these forums one garners that for mongers a penny saved is a penny earned so what can we expect from the ladies?

Forty Drinks
05-06-24, 15:15
Monday night pre stock market drinking session.

Skewed towards the Kelaya Side of the Oi 6. There was a Plethora of Hot very attractive girls.

The one I did ask price said 2 k. Very Fair.

My jaw just Dropped. It was like America beating the Russian in Olympic hockey.

Don't know if they all lost their Korean Sponsors or what.

Mind you I like Baitoey like white skin.

Explorer8939
05-07-24, 01:24
Traffic on 2nd road is bad because two lanes are closed down.

Itty bitty detail you fail to DisClose. Hahaha.Traffic everywhere in Pattaya is bad. Thrappaya Road is a parking lot between Jomtien and Pattaya.

Hopefully, traffic will thin out soon as the tourists disappear.

SubCmdr
05-07-24, 02:59
Here we go again with mongers hanging out together bemoaning progress and change in the world. I am surprised at how consistent this line of reasoning is across country threads. Change and adapt. Tighten up your own game. Or simply go to the place where you and your dick is treated best. Thailand is considered less expensive on the relative scale when looking at the over all market price of prostitution. That may factor in. Pick a more expensive location or venue.

Personally, I am glad I am not weighted down by thoughts of the glory days. That is the advantage of going to new places, with new eyes and experiencing thing you are familiar with. Experiencing the wonderment of old, because everything is new to you.

I will tell you one thing, the old pale skin farangs are simply not pulling the absolutely smoking hot girls I see my brothers from the asian countries hanging with. That might have something do with all the bad attitudes I am reading about up in here.


The fact that is sounds like so much work to get a good sexual experience with a good looking girl in Pattaya tells me just how downhill the place has gone. Yes the quantity is there and if all you need is a naked girl opening her legs, you can get what you want. But at my age I want and need much more. I found in BKK the MPs are the most reliable and in Patts the GCs. Of course I have found occasional gems on TF, Beach road, Gogos and other venues as well. But over all the Pattaya scene is hugely mercenary now and the sweetness that the girls had 10-20 years ago is extremely rare to be found. Now even 19 year old is tatted up, pumped full of Silicone and a rushed attitude. I'm glad I'm old enough to have experienced better days there. And have the pics and videos to remind me!

Allover
05-07-24, 17:41
Here we go again with mongers hanging out together bemoaning progress and change in the world. I am surprised at how consistent this line of reasoning is across country threads. Change and adapt. Tighten up your own game. Or simply go to the place where you and your dick is treated best. Thailand is considered less expensive on the relative scale when looking at the over all market price of prostitution. That may factor in. Pick a more expensive location or venue.

Personally, I am glad I am not weighted down by thoughts of the glory days. That is the advantage of going to new places, with new eyes and experiencing thing you are familiar with. Experiencing the wonderment of old, because everything is new to you.

I will tell you one thing, the old pale skin farangs are simply not pulling the absolutely smoking hot girls I see my brothers from the asian countries hanging with. That might have something do with all the bad attitudes I am reading about up in here.Sub it really was something special--anything we have today doesn't come close to Thailand of the past. And the old, pale skin farangs did pull smoking hot girls. That being said, I accept the changes and still enjoy LOS. Not that I have a choice.

CaliGuy33
05-07-24, 22:13
Here we go again with mongers hanging out together bemoaning progress and change in the world. I am surprised at how consistent this line of reasoning is across country threads. Change and adapt. Tighten up your own game. Or simply go to the place where you and your dick is treated best. Thailand is considered less expensive on the relative scale when looking at the over all market price of prostitution. That may factor in. Pick a more expensive location or venue.

Personally, I am glad I am not weighted down by thoughts of the glory days. That is the advantage of going to new places, with new eyes and experiencing thing you are familiar with. Experiencing the wonderment of old, because everything is new to you.

I will tell you one thing, the old pale skin farangs are simply not pulling the absolutely smoking hot girls I see my brothers from the asian countries hanging with. That might have something do with all the bad attitudes I am reading about up in here.Yep. Sounds like the old Caucasian westerners are sour that the ladies are choosing Japanese and Korean men over them.

Can you blame young females for not wanting to roll with bald, elderly Caucasian dudes who dress like trash and treat the girls like trash? I mean just look at the typical farang in the Buakho area. LOL.

Times they are a changin.

Allover
05-08-24, 17:24
Yep. Sounds like the old Caucasian westerners are sour that the ladies are choosing Japanese and Korean men over them.

Can you blame young females for not wanting to roll with bald, elderly Caucasian dudes who dress like trash and treat the girls like trash? I mean just look at the typical farang in the Buakho area. LOL.

Times they are a changin.The top girls, with rare exceptions, are choosing Korean and Western dudes over you too unless you are a Korean or Japanese dude from Cali.

CaliGuy33
05-09-24, 02:09
The top girls, with rare exceptions, are choosing Korean and Western dudes over you too unless you are a Korean or Japanese dude from Cali.Reality stings doesn't it?

BionicMan
05-09-24, 05:20
Yep. Sounds like the old Caucasian westerners are sour that the ladies are choosing Japanese and Korean men over them.

Can you blame young females for not wanting to roll with bald, elderly Caucasian dudes who dress like trash and treat the girls like trash? I mean just look at the typical farang in the Buakho area. LOL.

Times they are a changin.Partly the reason you are saying and partly the little efforts girls have to put in the room to make those customers happy. Plus the higher revenue with no bargaining they provide.

XXL
05-09-24, 06:15
Between now and October is the time to come to Pattaya! Everything feels relaxed. No more getting no seat at food courts. No more girls flaking 90% of the time. Even Jomtien immigration feels relaxed.

Banana Boi
05-09-24, 07:25
Since I'm currently living in Japan let me tell you many Japanese have super weird kinks and fetishes that guys like myself have never even considered. I can't see how they are an easier customer than anyone else. The only difference I know from experience is a Farang wants to bang a girl 3 or 4 times for LT to get his money's worth. Japanese will take 1 shot and save his energy and bang multiple girls in a day instead.

Look at FKK clubs. A Farang will sit there all day and grab 1 girl for the day, if any. The young Asians are grabbing girls every hour or two and imo having a much better time than the old Polar bears. Now which group of guys would you target as a FKK girl? Nothing to do with a small dick, an easy out, or paying more. Has to do solely that Farang don't session as much as Asian men in FKK clubs.

EihTooms
05-09-24, 09:50
Since I'm currently living in Japan let me tell you many Japanese have super weird kinks and fetishes that guys like myself have never even considered. I can't see how they are an easier customer than anyone else. The only difference I know from experience is a Farang wants to bang a girl 3 or 4 times for LT to get his money's worth. Japanese will take 1 shot and save his energy and bang multiple girls in a day instead.

Look at FKK clubs. A Farang will sit there all day and grab 1 girl for the day, if any. The young Asians are grabbing girls every hour or two and imo having a much better time than the old Polar bears. Now which group of guys would you target as a FKK girl? Nothing to do with a small dick, an easy out, or paying more. Has to do solely that Farang don't session as much as Asian men in FKK clubs.Based on those parameters and assuming a 6 hour LT is three times the cost of a 2 hour ST, if I were a FKK girl I would target older farangs of acceptable physical and interpersonal characteristics.

An older farang would likely only expect 1-2 pops, probably ordinary Fuck and / or Suck and I could spend the other 5 hours of that LT playing on my phone and watching Tik Tok videos.

Verses 3 STs with "super weird kink and fetish" demand customers? You mean like BDSM, spanking, golden showers, role playing, "the monk and the choirboy", Actors Studio exercises and all that? OMG. I can't imagine a more tedious 6 hour grind for some unfortunate P4P girl anywhere.

No contest; I would keep it exclusively older farangs.

Turgid
05-09-24, 16:24
.....Look at FKK clubs. A Farang will sit there all day and grab 1 girl for the day, if any. The young Asians are grabbing girls every hour or two and imo having a much better time than the old Polar bears. Now which group of guys would you target as a FKK girl? Nothing to do with a small dick, an easy out, or paying more. Has to do solely that Farang don't session as much as Asian men in FKK clubs.Most of the guys you see in FKKs are Germans, they live there and can come often and spend more time. Also most of them are older. The young Asians are usually there for a short period and want to make the most of their time banging girls they cannot get in their home countries. Also, many young farang who visit from other countries bang 3/4 girls per day too.

SubCmdr
05-09-24, 20:57
"There has never been a better period in human existence to be alive" - Subcmdr.


Sub it really was something special anything we have today doesn't come close to Thailand of the past. And the old, pale skin farangs did pull smoking hot girls. That being said, I accept the changes and still enjoy LOS. Not that I have a choice.The girls really wanted to be with you. You had to force them to leave. I got tired of doing threesomes. And they only wanted 10 Bhat and some Khao Man Gai for an overnight. Blah, Blah, Blah, Blah, Blah. Like one of Charle Browns teachers. LOL!

Seriously? You going to have me play Bruce Springsteen for ya brother. Those sentiments are universally proffered about almost every location around the world pretty much by anyone who has been mongering for any length of time. I have heard / read this same sentiment about many other countries I have visited by those who have been visiting them for longer. Wash, rinse, repeat.

You know when I had the best sex I have ever had? It was with the girl that just left with my splooge running down her thigh about to drip from her knee. Yep, right before I sat down to respond to your post. I suppose it is a matter of perspective. An entire world out there and you going to lament the past? My best nut is always my last nut.

There always always a place on the decline and a place on the upswing. I've been told by my friends there is overnight pussy for 9. 00 USD someplace in the world. But the infrastructure of the location is shit and the plane tickets expensive. But I can get 9. 00 USD pussy there.

I have gotten short time for 500 THB here in Pattaya. That was a massage, BBBJ, CFS and brothers the girl could take some dick. Because she was my third girl that day she really had to put in some work to "poder mi leche afura" (get my cum out).

In ten years, when it is 30 USD for overnight pussy (in the undisclosed location) I hope I am not like the guy below:

Think I'm going down to the well tonight; And I'm going to drink 'til I get my fill; And I hope when I get old, I don't sit around thinking about it; But I probably will; Yeah, just sitting back; Trying to recapture a little of the glory of; Well, the time slips away; Leaves you with nothing, mister, but boring stories of
Glory Days" - Bruce Springsteen.

CaliGuy33
05-09-24, 21:03
Between now and October is the time to come to Pattaya! Everything feels relaxed. No more getting no seat at food courts. No more girls flaking 90% of the time. Even Jomtien immigration feels relaxed.I was watching some YT videos of Soi 6 and Buakho and it really does look dead. As you mentioned, low season is the best time to be out there. Looking forward to returning this summer.

CaliGuy33
05-09-24, 21:09
Is it really a shocker for asian chicks to prefer asian men?Yes. In Asian cultures there's always been and still is an obsession with white skin and western culture. But that is decreasing in recent years, especially with K-Pop and Korean culture movies / shows gaining in popularity. The average Thai girl idolizes Korean singers and actors, both male and female. The West and Caucasions are losing their place to Koreans and Japanese.

The times are changin. But make no mistake, if a White Chad strolls by an Asian chick, her pussy is going to get wet on the spot and she'll do anything to get with the Chad. I have seen it many times in Thailand. I'll be sitting in a massage shop on Buakhao getting a foot massage and a White Chad is walking by and the massage girls lose it and go crazy. It's a sight to behold.

Explorer8939
05-10-24, 01:37
Between now and October is the time to come to Pattaya! Everything feels relaxed. No more getting no seat at food courts. No more girls flaking 90% of the time. Even Jomtien immigration feels relaxed.By the end of this month, ladies will begin disappearing from the bars, due to lack of customers. This isn't to say that the bars will be empty of ladies, only that if you are coming to Pattaya for a specific lady, she may be gone soon.

But, in general, this is the best time to come to Pattaya.

Except that it's hot. I got tired of the heat, and bailed for Kazakhstan.

First Lover
05-10-24, 09:34
Would you mind translating TF and GC please. I couldn't find it in the abbreviations.




GC girls. The problems I mentioned occur also with masseuses, gogo girls and GC girls, but much more rarely. GC girls can sometimes be a letdown, if you choose the hottest one in an establishment. But usually a GC is the McD of sex (the non-US McD) - yes, perhaps it's not the best presentation or the best taste, but you know exactly what you're getting and you will not be hungry. Problem is, if you're a foodie, setting up camp in McD will not leave you satisfied. However, if you ever find yourself "hungry" and tired, that's the #1 place to go to.

TF. My experience (not statistically significant) is that the better encounters are with TF girls rather than beer bar girls, and the former can be much hotter. And much cheaper: same price no LDs no bar fines, so you can afford to sometimes get it wrong. The key here is you should really screen the TF girls well. I focus on the ones that seem to have relatively little experience. I study the profile, the pictures, and search for any reviews out there. I'm very suspicious of any 10's, 9's and even 8's. And I do a video-connection before inviting them in, crossing off the girls who try to avoid it.

Expat American
05-10-24, 09:49
"There has never been a better period in human existence to be alive" - Subcmdr.

The girls really wanted to be with you. You had to force them to leave. I got tired of doing threesomes. And they only wanted 10 Bhat and some Khao Man Gai for an overnight. Blah, Blah, Blah, Blah, Blah. Like one of Charle Browns teachers. LOL!

Seriously? You going to have me play Bruce Springsteen for ya brother. Those sentiments are universally proffered about almost every location around the world pretty much by anyone who has been mongering for any length of time. I have heard / read this same sentiment about many other countries I have visited by those who have been visiting them for longer. Wash, rinse, repeat.

You know when I had the best sex I have ever had? It was with the girl that just left with my splooge running down her thigh about to drip from her knee. Yep, right before I sat down to respond to your post. I suppose it is a matter of perspective. An entire world out there and you going to lament the past? My best nut is always my last nut.

There always always a place on the decline and a place on the upswing. I've been told by my friends there is overnight pussy for 9. 00 USD someplace in the world. But the infrastructure of the location is shit and the plane tickets expensive. But I can get 9. 00 USD pussy there.

I have gotten short time for 500 THB here in Pattaya. That was a massage, BBBJ, CFS and brothers the girl could take some dick. Because she was my third girl that day she really had to put in some work to "poder mi leche afura" (get my cum out).

In ten years, when it is 30 USD for overnight pussy (in the undisclosed location) I hope I am not like the guy below:

Think I'm going down to the well tonight; And I'm going to drink 'til I get my fill; And I hope when I get old, I don't sit around thinking about it; But I probably will; Yeah, just sitting back; Trying to recapture a little of the glory of; Well, the time slips away; Leaves you with nothing, mister, but boring stories of
Glory Days" - Bruce Springsteen.I think the main point is not the cost. Everyone understands inflation. McDonalds meal could be had for $1. 99. Now its like 10 bucks. But WHAT they are serving is more or less the same thing. Consistent burgers and service. You know what you are paying for. The issue is that the product, Thai pussy, is no longer the same. Yes it is is still available but the body its attached to is now tatted up, fake boobs, fake nose and eyes and a mercenary attitude. Yes I know the glory days are not coming back. But for better or worse people have reference point in their mind that sets expectations whether we like it or not. Good for you that you can only remember as far back as your last ejaculation. Many of us are not blessed with such selective and ultra short term memory.

SubCmdr
05-10-24, 09:52
Would you mind translating TF and GC please. I couldn't find it in the abbreviations.TF = Thai Friendly; GC=Gentleman's clubs.

Forty Drinks
05-10-24, 14:57
What is up with Kelaya 66. Had food but NO customers as usual. I think I might have seen 2 guys in there at table. Always possible could be staff. The Hello girls were Hot as usual.

Met a girl in the area. Very sweet. Not the face of Baitoey but a better body. Very approachable. Look more Laos than Thai. Are they coming back to make Thai sex science great again.

LocalExplorer
05-10-24, 15:55
Would you mind translating TF and GC please. I couldn't find it in the abbreviations.Sure,

TF = Thai Friendly. A dating app, repurposed in Pattaya for prostitution. It's very rare to find someone in Pattaya looking for a real date.

GC = Gentleman's Club, a Pattaya-specific type of bar with closed entrance doors, as opposed to many beer bars which are fully outdoor with a roof only. They have either rooms or at least curtains on premises, so you can enjoy action with a lady on-site. The ladies are rarely below 30. For a good list go to gentsclubs. It's run by a few GC owners (so they put their own GCs at the top), but is fairly complete.

Mr Enternational
05-10-24, 16:07
Would you mind translating TF and GC please. I couldn't find it in the abbreviations.Thai Friendly dating app. Gentlemen's Clubs.

LocalExplorer
05-10-24, 18:07
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LocalExplorer
05-10-24, 19:56
SIM. Get an Airalo eSIM card before leaving your home country. This will allow you to keep your home SIM card and still have a Thai SIM in the same phone, and you won't be loosing time in Thailand to do this. It works really well, and you'll get 5 G in most of central Pattaya. Get the Airalo app, the rest is self-explaining.

Baht Bus. The Baht Bus is still 10 THB per ride. Use the Baht Bus when travelling between Terminal 21, Soi 6, Central Pattaya, Walking Street and Jomtien Bus Station. Fast, cheap, plentiful!

Bolt. For all other far destinations use Bolt motorbikes. Install the Bolt app, and always use cash as the payment option. The rides are about 30 THB for distances such as Central Pattaya to Walking Street or Central Pattaya to Telephone Bar Club.

Exercise. Walk to places, unless you're going to a club and it's pretty far away. Do walk, especially after sundown, when it's not so hot, or when going shopping. I know most of you hate it, but some exercise is a must! And if you can't walk for 10-15 minutes, I doubt you go to the gym much.

Food 1. Try the Tops Food Hall in the basement of CentralFestival Pattaya Beach Shopping Center, open until 9 PM /10 PM. You prepay as much as you want at the cash register, and you receive a dedicated card to pay with. You can use the card for multiple days or return it and get the remaining balance in cash. Choose from about 20 different food stands at very good prices and eat calmly in an air-conditioned environment! But DO take a bunch of your own tissues, they always seem to be out, at all the tables and all the cutlery stations. And you don't want to realize that only once you have soup dripping down your chin.

Food 2. Places located more closely to Buakhow are Cheap Charlie's (Thai main dishes for about 100-120 THB), a favorite amongst local farangs, good food and I do recommend it. No air-con but the air fans are pretty effective. Hungry Hippo's is popular, I don't quite get why, perhaps the variety of the food? The outdoor food court between Tree Town and Buakhow is an all-time favorite for tourists, especially those taking their "dates" out, though it's kind of pricey, and you're more than likely to be spotted by your previous dates and get texts. And you'll sweat a lot before you're done with your meal. The Mexican joint (run by a very friendly young Indian guy) is worth a try.

Laundry. Take minimal clothing from home and use laundry centres, at around 60-70 THB per kilo of laundry. If you bring it in in the morning, it will be done by the afternoon, but otherwise it's going to take 24 h. There's also a "fast" laundry, where you can get it done in about 2-3 hours, for 130 THB (or a bit less if you bring your own detergent).

Doctor. For medical advice, I recommend Buakhouw Clinic. It's quick and cheap. I got a gentle rash, went to get it checked out anyway, better safe than sorry, especially in Pattaya. Doctor confirmed it's nothing to worry about, and I got a medical cream. In and out in 10-15 minutes, and I payed 300 THB for everything including the cream.

Viagra. If you need Viagra to keep the party going for even longer or stronger, or whatever other reason, it's officially OTC (over the counter AKA no prescription) in Thailand. Make sure you buy it from a real, licensed pharmacy, never from a dude on the street. If the place doesn't look official, or sells non-medical stuff, or it's not air-conditioned, it's not a pharmacy. You can ask for Sildenafil (which is the scientific name, Viagra is a brand) or straight away ask for Sidegra, which is the official local generic brand. It's the same medicine, the same chemical substance, no difference. Pay attention to the dosage. In the West they often sell 2 or 4 tablets x 25 MG, in Thailand they only seem to sell 4 tablets x 50 MG or 4 tablets x 100 MG. Read the leaflet! I can't give medical advice, I'm not competent, but AFAIK 100 MG is the max daily dosage, and you more than likely don't need that much, unless you know that you really do. Try 50 MG first or 25 MG brought from home, it's usually sufficient and lasts quite long. The price in Pattaya is about 200 THB for a 4 x50 MG, and 350-400 THB for 4 x100 MG.