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May I add Betty Boups in Soi 6, 1000B including room. The rooms are quite decent as well. Probably the best deal in Pattaya for this kind of arrangement.
That doesn't count, soi 6 is in a class of its own :-) For rooms, check Ruby Club (I think), recently redone. Includes flatscreen TV, can rent overnight for 700, but proper hotel better value.
Lol - I'm starting to think that there may be better countries for this. Philippines or Japan maybe. I know PI has "cherry girl" as a concept in some bars.
Are there any less reliable ways. My best advice so far is to go to the mamasan and just ask for a brand new girl and hope.I am new to Thailand but have been to the phils a few times. The cherry girls in the bars are generally young often more attractive girls who are there just to chat with customers and generate drink sales. Of course almost every cherry girl will one day lose her cherry, but typically this will either to be a local or foreign guy who pretends to love her and talks about an interest in marrying her. As the Koreans/Chinese guys will pay around $500 to do a genuine cherry girl, a bar cherry girl who decides its time to lose it will generally be marketed to these guys, not offered to some shmuck for 1500 pesos.
Uncle Volodya
01-14-10, 18:50
Very nice. Hope i can find that kind of talent in a few weeks. Any hints on where you were looking.These were freelance girls I picked up on Walking Street in Pattaya. Also met a couple of them in Lucifer disco. I only took one chick form a go-go the whole time I was there.
Happy hunting! Don't forget to post for all of us miserable SOBs that are stuck at home.
LittleBigMan
01-15-10, 13:53
Breakfast Buffet get together at the Lek Hotel on 2nd Road, next to Mikes shopping mall! Tuesday 19th of January at 10AM.
Our breakfast get together was plan with myself, Tansak KTV and Daddy07, and Tansak KTV, though it would be a good idea to post it here as a invite to others who might be around that want to meet others from the site.
To be on the safe side, let me know PM if you plan to attend so that if it gets too large I'll make arrangements to have table set aside for us. The cost of Buffet breakfast at the leak is 110 baht.
LBM, is still in the dog house but should be able to make it.
ISG, T-shirts will go on sale for 199 baht, 100% Cotton comes in all sizes including xxxxxx and all colors.
LBM
Dosomegood
01-17-10, 12:56
How does one tackle these typical situations / questions in a go-go?
1. You are having a drink and a girl comes across starts the typical questions "you sexy maan" "where you come from". Etc. You don't fancy the girl at all. She asks for a LD. You are more keen to get rid of her and need time to decide if you would like to BF someone. After a few drinks.
- What's the best way to get rid of her?
2. You have liked a girl. Got the mamasan to call her or signalled to her directly. She comes and you talk. You offer a LD. In some time she calls another girl in the go-go. Now both talk to you. The first girl prods you to buy a LD for her friend as well. You give in and buy. Later both say that I BF both. And elaborate on how we can go dancing together. Boom-boom together later.
- Whats the most elegant way to tell the first girl that her friend is not wanted and she alone is good for the night?
Hi this is my first report,. I've been a lurker for some time and benefitted from some excellent advice. Now I've finally got to Thailand and have some action of my own to report. I guess this will be old hat to you experienced mongers, but thought I would give some details that may be useful for those planning an initial trip.
It's my first trip to Thailand, I flew out from miserable London with Jet Airways. Highly recommended, great service except for security conscious stop over in Mumbai (make sure you don't buy Duty free in London as it will be taken off you in Mumbai as you need to go through the security again).
I had planned to spend a few days in BKK but was lucky enough to sit next to an old Thailand hand on the plane who advised me to head straight down to Pattaya where he said that the going rate for pussy was half the rate in BKK and Phuket.
I could have got the bus for about 165B but as a newbie decided it would be better to get a cab. Asked for 1500B but following the advice of my pal on the plane got it down to 1000B. This guy had suggested that I check out the Penthouse Hotel in Soi Pattayaland. I had read something about this hotel before generally very positive but with some people bad-mouthing it. Anyhow I figured as I had the cab I'd check it out for myself and if I didn't like the vibe, I'd go elsewhere.
My buddy had told me it was a boutique hotel and I could find cheaper places in the back roads but having looked forward to my trip and for so long, I figured this was no time for penny-pinching. Actually the room rates were better than I expected as they have now come off the 'High Season' rates and there was an excellent selection of rooms at the 1000.2000 Bt range. One look at the rooms was enough to dispell my doubts and I paid off the taxi and was offered a complementary welcome drink and cool towel as I checked in.
The flunky took my bags to my room and showed me the various gadgets. After years of staying in identikit business class hotels this place was a serious novelty. The rooms are covered in textured stucco. The bed is firm with crisp white cotton sheets its higher than most beds which I figured would come in handy for bending a young cutie over and ravishing her from behind.
The room has a 42 inch LCD which I may try and hook my laptop up to later. The room has a bewildering array of mood-lighting options. The default option is for a flashing gogo bar type effect, which doesn't quite do it for me. The room is complete with a gogo pool at the end of the bed. However after trying various permutations of switches I got the seductive warm glow boudoir look which is more my style. All these light options are a bit of a pain when you actually want to go to sleep as it takes 5 minutes to find all the switches to turn them off.
I took a shower and was plaeased to note that the tastefuly appointed shower room also featured full size mirrors which I would put to good effect later that day and decided to catch up on some sleep. Thankfully the room comes with complete blackout curtains which allowed me to sleep oblivious to the 30C sun outside.
I got up about 5. 30pm. I decided to take the precaution of putting my valuables in the safe under my bed. The hotel has an attached GoGo but I decided I would check out the action by walking along Beach Road which is just a stone's throw from the hotel. Though its now past the Christmas peak, Beach Road was humming with activity. Different sections of the road seem to be ocupied by different sorts, the young and wild types, the overweight girls. Who I am told mainly service the middle eastern visitors, the ladyboys and perhaps the majority. The mutton dressed up as lamb. I was told that the going rate was 500B short time but that seemed by and large the older women most of whom had had a baby.
After talking to quite a few I came across a slim girl without a baby who said her name was Bo, aged 22 and who agreed 700B for short time. I felt very self conscious walking back to the hotel given the age and height differential with my companion. Thankfully the hotel is very geared to this sort of thing so after handing over her ID card (no joiner fee or anything) we slipped inside the elevator to get to my room. Bo was pretty impressed with the surroundings and suggested that she take a shower. I asked if I could accompany her and after a little persuading she agreed. Remarkable feeling to get my hands on a cute young Thai girl's body for the first time. She rubbed the shower gel over her rather ample young breasts and then started rubbing the gel over me. Her delicate hands gently massaged the shower gel into my balls and then I used the shower head to rinse off the soap and beckoned her to take my cock into her mouth which she did willingly. She looked fantastic as she gave my member a thorough licking and the mirrors in the shower allowed me to see the action.
I took her to the bed and she sat astride me using the fuck rail above the bed to help bounce up on down me and allow me to take her ample boobs into my mouth.
I very satisfying session ensued. I have more experience in the Phils my initial impression is that the girls here are more skilled and professional but that one comes away with a much more "commercial" feeling. Look forward to investigating the matter further.
Bo only allowed some tame shots in the room and outside the room in the hotel atrium area hopefully my next girl will allow something more interesting.
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Here's a few pics of An. Reportedly 20 and seems around right. Quite a cute girl. I could live without the tats though. I do feel these young girls are really going to regret those in a few years time. Found her along Beach Road. 500B ST plus tip for pics
Re Mouse 1's question re noise levels at Penthouse Hotel. It's fair to say that people' don't come to the Penthouse or Pattaya in general for peace and quiet. The nightclub downstairs Kittens / Obsessions (Ladyboys) fires up around 8pm and quietens down around 2am. The rooms on the 2nd floor directly over the club are going to be booming during this time, but the rooms to the side or on 3, 4 and 5th floor are fine. Though geographically in the center of the action (which is generally a short walk in almost any direction, soi Pattayaland is not as busy as apparently it was before so the whole street is pretty quiet by 2. 30am.
Of course you are probably going to hear something of other customers coming back quite late but generally as its a relatively old well established hotel so the walls seem quite thick and fairly soundproof.
In general of course it's not a place that will suit everyone. Though I think you certainly get alot for your buck, alot of guys here are on a tight budget. Generally prioritized to booze and girls so will look for the cheapest place available which is never going to be afull service hotel. Similarly the hotel is a little eccentric and some guys are going to prefer a more standard place, but personally I am fed up with the standard hotels which I stay at on business so prefer something more memorable and more geared towards hedonistic sex, when in Pattaya.
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Greetings Everyone,
I recently cleaned up this thread by deleting a number of off-topic and otherwise worthless posts by Diceman, as well as a number responses made by other forum members to these deleted posts.
This cleanup process is not perfect, and it's possible that I may have inadvertently deleted a few otherwise legitimate posts. If you find that your own report was also deleted, please don't take it personally.
Thanks,
Jackson
how does one tackle these typical situations / questions in a go-go?
1. you are having a drink and a girl comes across starts the typical questions "you sexy maan" "where you come from". etc. you don't fancy the girl at all. she asks for a ld. you are more keen to get rid of her and need time to decide if you would like to bf someone. after a few drinks.
- what's the best way to get rid of her?
2. you have liked a girl. got the mamasan to call her or signalled to her directly. she comes and you talk. you offer a ld. in some time she calls another girl in the go-go. now both talk to you. the first girl prods you to buy a ld for her friend as well. you give in and buy. later both say that i bf both. and elaborate on how we can go dancing together. boom-boom together later.
- whats the most elegant way to tell the first girl that her friend is not wanted and she alone is good for the night?
1a: tell her politely that you are not interested.
1b: tell her that the night is young and you are not ready to pick a girl yet
1c: tell her more firmly that you are not interested
1d: ask if she is open to some more advanced stuff, i.e. [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140), rep001 etc
1e: show her an open sore
1f: ask if she will go bareback eventhough you have aids.
2a: tell your first choice that she is so beautiful you want to spend all your energy on her / are not willing to share her if they offer lesbian service
2b: tell her that you do not have the energy today to take two women, but maybe another day.
2c: tell her you cannot go dancing due to a) a bad knee b)an early commitment tomorrow c)prefer to make love rather than dance
junior
If any of the recent posters have seen any large-breasted (D Cup - bolted is ok) Thai beauties in their travels, do tell! I am going to Bangkok and Pattya in March and want to minimize search time and maximize the boobage banging. I am particularly interested in soapies if you happen to find one I greatly appreciate a response. Happy mongering, you horn dogs! :)
I would suggest you take a look at Rose from the Devils Den in Pattaya. Big tits and solid in bed.
Photos available on their website.
Junior
Italy 1974
01-18-10, 20:23
Very solid!
Fantastic tits and very skilled in bed.
Her ass is also available.
Italy 1974
I would suggest you take a look at Rose from the Devils Den in Pattaya. Big tits and solid in bed.
Photos available on their website.
Junior
Fun And Sun
01-19-10, 01:57
How does one tackle these typical situations / questions in a go-go?
1. You are having a drink and a girl comes across starts the typical questions "you sexy maan" "where you come from". Etc. You don't fancy the girl at all. She asks for a LD. You are more keen to get rid of her and need time to decide if you would like to BF someone. After a few drinks.
- What's the best way to get rid of her?
2. You have liked a girl. Got the mamasan to call her or signalled to her directly. She comes and you talk. You offer a LD. In some time she calls another girl in the go-go. Now both talk to you. The first girl prods you to buy a LD for her friend as well. You give in and buy. Later both say that I BF both. And elaborate on how we can go dancing together. Boom-boom together later.
- Whats the most elegant way to tell the first girl that her friend is not wanted and she alone is good for the night?
I try to avoid being rude or blunt in these situations as a general rule, so on 1 I usually say "maybe later". If she doesn't leave at that point she will after a little while when she figures out she isn't making any money from you. If she is seated then I sometimes just whisper in her ear that she is very pretty but tonight I want a different girl. Girls that are pushy for lady drinks usually are no fun to sit with and no good in bed, IMHO.
For 2 I would just say that it sounds exciting, but not tonight. Then hold firm on the "not tonight" line.
I can sometimes find it hard to say no firmly to *many* thai girls, *most* are so petite and cute that I don't want to be rude to them, but I don't want to be pushed around either, so it can be easier to stick to "not tonight" or "not now" since just saying "no" bluntly feels a bit harsh.
How does one tackle these typical situations / questions in a go-go?
Q 1. What's the best way to get rid of her?
Q 2. Whats the most elegant way to tell the first girl that her friend is not wanted and she alone is good for the night?
A 1. Why get rid of her? Buy her a drink and say you are looking for a girl that looks like "X" and is willing to do "X". Tell her you'll buy her another LD if she finds you the girl you like.
A 2. Just say maybe tomorrow and that you just want to go with one girl for the night. Be firm, but make no commitments.
Cheers,
F2
Secrets is a good bar but I gather from talking to hostesses at Secrets that they have some interesting management practices. Some of these practices are industry-wide but Secrets seems to take things a bit further in some respects.
Like most bars, if a girl gets sick she must pay her own bar fine, in the case of Secrets this costs her 400 baht per day but at Secrets she must pay double (800 baht) on Friday, Saturdays and Sundays unless she attends until midnight, thus you can sometimes see sick-looking gilrs on weekend evenings sitting it out until 12 so they only have to pay 400. The fine takes a big chunk out of her monthly pay of 4500 baht.
She will also have her money cut if she fails to meet a monthly target of 60 drinks and 8 bar fines.
If a customer buys her drinks and then she declines to be barfined by him, she will be fined 100 baht per drink she was bought if the customer complains about her not agreeing to go with him.
Oh, and she will be fined 100 baht if she does not drink tequila bought by management, that's 100 baht per tequila. You can see the mamasans going round periodically telling the girls to go and drink, if they don't drink they get fined even if they are with a customer. This compulsory drinking policy of course helps to keep the bar buzzing but here's the twist. On quiet nights (roughly half of the nights) girls may be expected to drink 10 tequilas. The idea appears to be that the girls will get too drunk to work on nights when there are too few customers to warrant their presence and management can save money as then each girl can be fined 400 (or 800 if it is a weekend night). Few girls can stay upright after 10 tequials and they often collapse in the locker room. Some of the girls hold the tequila in their mouths and then spit it out in the toilet but they will be fined if spotted doing so. This practice is also carcinogenic as the strong spirit damages the mouth tissue. Coyote dancers are banned from using the toilet while dancing so they do not have this option.
By the way the girls when sick will often pay for an intramuscular antibiotic jab so that they can return to work quickly. This is expensive and not good health practice.
Sexual Healing
01-19-10, 13:51
Hi guys,
Finally I'm here. Not much time to read and write, so I will delay my reports later (maybe after journey) and go straight with my request:
Many things wild in Patts that you only know once you are there.
So, after weeks of reading and knowing secrets to make it here, eventually I found out an unexpected (for me) turn, giving me some trouble to solve.
Thing is that basically I hate loud disco music and dark crowded venues inside which you can barely see who you are talking to and you have to scream out just to start conversation. Obviously (for you, not for me before experiencing) in Walking Street all bars are more or less like this.
So, even venues like Lucifer or the Walking Street Bar where girls are pretty and you don't need to barfine suddendly revealed hostile territory!
I also tried to catch them on street before they go in but they didn't care and walked straight in. They look like they really want them ears bombed with that shit.
I end up several nights at Bamboo, where the music is live, easy-listening and not so noisy, but quality of girls is average very low.
Is there another venue like Bamboo with better looking girls or where do you suggest I can find a cutie to pick up for longtime at my hotel without either callling expensive escort or going to those hell-like dens?
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Fun And Sun
01-19-10, 22:46
Hi guys,
Finally I'm here. Not much time to read and write, so I will delay my reports later (maybe after journey) and go straight with my request:
Many things wild in Patts that you only know once you are there.
So, after weeks of reading and knowing secrets to make it here, eventually I found out an unexpected (for me) turn, giving me some trouble to solve.
Thing is that basically I hate loud disco music and dark crowded venues inside which you can barely see who you are talking to and you have to scream out just to start conversation. Obviously (for you, not for me before experiencing) in Walking Street all bars are more or less like this.
So, even venues like Lucifer or the Walking Street Bar where girls are pretty and you don't need to barfine suddendly revealed hostile territory!
I also tried to catch them on street before they go in but they didn't care and walked straight in. They look like they really want them ears bombed with that shit.
I end up several nights at Bamboo, where the music is live, easy-listening and not so noisy, but quality of girls is average very low.
Is there another venue like Bamboo with better looking girls or where do you suggest I can find a cutie to pick up for longtime at my hotel without either callling expensive escort or going to those hell-like dens?
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Dude, have you tried some of the beer bars on Soi 6, 7, 8? Sure you can find one that fits your requirements with ample lights and not very loud music. Atmosphere there is also much more relaxed than on Walking Street.
Hi guys,
Finally I'm here. Not much time to read and write, so I will delay my reports later (maybe after journey) and go straight with my request:
Many things wild in Patts that you only know once you are there.
So, after weeks of reading and knowing secrets to make it here, eventually I found out an unexpected (for me) turn, giving me some trouble to solve.
Thing is that basically I hate loud disco music and dark crowded venues inside which you can barely see who you are talking to and you have to scream out just to start conversation. Obviously (for you, not for me before experiencing) in Walking Street all bars are more or less like this.
So, even venues like Lucifer or the Walking Street Bar where girls are pretty and you don't need to barfine suddendly revealed hostile territory!
I also tried to catch them on street before they go in but they didn't care and walked straight in. They look like they really want them ears bombed with that shit.
I end up several nights at Bamboo, where the music is live, easy-listening and not so noisy, but quality of girls is average very low.
Is there another venue like Bamboo with better looking girls or where do you suggest I can find a cutie to pick up for longtime at my hotel without either callling expensive escort or going to those hell-like dens?
EDITOR'S NOTE: I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php) for more information.Hi,
for that kind of taste you should go to the venues that are not that close to WS. All the bars outside are much more quiet. Soi 8, 7 only some , some are terrible, but soi 2 area or the beer bars on the other side of 2nd road opposite Soi 8 should do fine for you!
Mike
Secrets is a good bar but I gather from talking to hostesses at Secrets that they have some interesting management practices. Some of these practices are industry-wide but Secrets seems to take things a bit further in some respects...Tough way to make a living. Not only are these women spreading their legs for strangers often almost three times their age, but they are compelled by monetary force to become, literally, alcoholics.
Little wonder many of them lose their looks and minds at a young age. Something to think about next time you are screwing a drunk, 20-year old Isaan princess?
Haven't been, but from my research for my upcoming trip I came up with Pattya Beer Gardens off Beach Road (http://www.pattayabeergarden.com/contact.htm). Would be interested in any feedback on it. Cheers
Hi guys,
Finally I'm here. Not much time to read and write, so I will delay my reports later (maybe after journey) and go straight with my request:
Many things wild in Patts that you only know once you are there.
So, after weeks of reading and knowing secrets to make it here, eventually I found out an unexpected (for me) turn, giving me some trouble to solve.
Thing is that basically I hate loud disco music and dark crowded venues inside which you can barely see who you are talking to and you have to scream out just to start conversation. Obviously (for you, not for me before experiencing) in Walking Street all bars are more or less like this.
So, even venues like Lucifer or the Walking Street Bar where girls are pretty and you don't need to barfine suddendly revealed hostile territory!
I also tried to catch them on street before they go in but they didn't care and walked straight in. They look like they really want them ears bombed with that shit.
I end up several nights at Bamboo, where the music is live, easy-listening and not so noisy, but quality of girls is average very low.
Is there another venue like Bamboo with better looking girls or where do you suggest I can find a cutie to pick up for longtime at my hotel without either callling expensive escort or going to those hell-like dens?
EDITOR'S NOTE: I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php) for more information.
LittleBigMan
01-20-10, 02:56
Haven't been, but from my research for my upcoming trip I came up with Pattya Beer Gardens off Beach Road (http://www.pattayabeergarden.com/contact.htm). Would be interested in any feedback on it. Cheers
Certainly not the same action as the beigarden in Bkk, not even close but plenty of beer bars in front but the food is good and night you have a nice view!
LBM
Certainly not the same action as the beigarden in Bkk, not even close but plenty of beer bars in front but the food is good and night you have a nice view!
LBMDon't get excited about those beer bars, they are the same as the other 1000 in Pattaya. If you want quality stuff just pay a little extra and stick to the go-gos. Shop around but you will find.
Dude, have you tried some of the beer bars on Soi 6, 7, 8? Sure you can find one that fits your requirements with ample lights and not very loud music. Atmosphere there is also much more relaxed than on Walking Street.Agreed BUT soi 6 can get a little obnoxious due to harassment from Ladyboys and regular girls as well. I like soi 7,8 for beer bars, but go-gos have the best ladys.
If any of the recent posters have seen any large-breasted (D Cup - bolted is ok) Thai beauties in their travels, do tell! I am going to Bangkok and Pattya in March and want to minimize search time and maximize the boobage banging. I am particularly interested in soapies if you happen to find one I greatly appreciate a response. Happy mongering, you horn dogs! :)Dude,
While in Pattaya you MUST go to the soapy near the big C with the large white columns. I can't remember the name. You will be pleased with the proper fishbowl you will find.
Certainly not the same action as the beigarden in Bkk, not even close but plenty of beer bars in front but the food is good and night you have a nice view!
LBM
I could never understand why the more 'respectable' looking Beach Road girls didn't migrate there; free som tam, no LE harassment, less 'obvious' to their countrymen what they are doing, and still quite centrally located; all for the cost of a drink.
I guess some things, like the Beach Road crawl, are just institutions and can't be changed.
Certainly not the same action as the beigarden in Bkk, not even close but plenty of beer bars in front but the food is good and night you have a nice view!
LBM...and for sad gits like me who have to work, it has excellent free wi-fi. I can sit there and do a day's work in a morning, with a great view and a cheap breakfast.
Dude,
While in Pattaya you MUST go to the soapy near the big C with the large white columns. I can't remember the name. You will be pleased with the proper fishbowl you will find.
You mean Sabai Dee Massage? Be aware of the push up bra trick, those boobs may not be as big or attractive in the room as they appear in the fishbowl.
JohnnieBravo
01-20-10, 17:20
You mean Sabai Dee Massage? Be aware of the push up bra trick, those boobs may not be as big or attractive in the room as they appear in the fishbowl.
The one you speak of with the white columns next to the Big C does have a very nice fishbowl. A tailor that I visit when I am in Pattaya cautioned me about going to any of those places in Pattaya because the service was not very good. He told me basically they pretty much try to get you in and out. He said most in Bangkok gave much better service. Not having much time before my flight left when I returned to Bangkok I tried this place out myself and sad to say my tailor friend was right....poor service and a rush to get you in and out although the girl was a least a looker.
Bros, advise please good hotel 4-5 stars GF in PTT. Not far from Soi 7,8.
Maybe somebody knows a good one? it would be the best with jakuzzi in a room.
Thank you!
Phantomtiger2
01-21-10, 01:36
Hi guys,
Thing is that basically I hate loud disco music and dark crowded venues inside which you can barely see who you are talking to and you have to scream out just to start conversation. Obviously (for you, not for me before experiencing) in Walking Street all bars are more or less like this.
So, even venues like Lucifer or the Walking Street Bar where girls are pretty and you don't need to barfine suddendly revealed hostile territory!
I also tried to catch them on street before they go in but they didn't care and walked straight in. They look like they really want them ears bombed with that shit.
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I too don't really like the extra loud music at some of the more popular discos but sometimes its the best place to hang out for the best cuties.
So just do what I do, wear earplugs and most of the problems are solved (just remember to take them off when you find a gal so you can hear her)
PT
Thanks, Fusnuts and Run Mann. Yes, I will ask for a bra-less demonstration! :)No No, Indeed the ones I saw were real for sure. Pay attention to the back row left side. Cant remember the name/number but it was fine. I'd say small D's which is quite unusual as you all well know. This was a quality session. I also tried one closer to walking street other side of the road. Has anyone tried the nicer looking one on the other side of the road a little in the direction away from walking street? I't's the one which is brick looking and probably the nicest building of the 3.
Sexual Healing
01-21-10, 15:00
thank you all, fun and sun and michi in particular.
i rented a scooter and managed to find soi 6 but a bit of disappointment once there: lots of girls looking sweet-sixteen, i mean i dig them young but not that [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900).
on the other hand, i see some guys at my hotel always with fine girls and from what i got thru the grapevine i am under the impression that they got them on soi 2. ho does it works there? same old barfine or have to buy drink for the lady?
no idea now where soi 7 and 8 are, yet. by the way, can you suggest any bar in particular?
to the other guy suggesting go-gos...
well, i might afford it once in a while when i want to raise level of good looking girls. can you name one or two (the best in your opinion) and specify drink costs, barfine + rates?
thanks
hi,
for that kind of taste you should go to the venues that are not that close to ws. all the bars outside are much more quiet. soi 8, 7 only some , some are terrible, but soi 2 area or the beer bars on the other side of 2nd road opposite soi 8 should do fine for you!
mike
Bros, advise please good hotel 4-5 stars GF in PTT. Not far from Soi 7,8.
Maybe somebody knows a good one? it would be the best with jakuzzi in a room.
Thank you!I have tried www.timboutiquehotel.com and was satiesfied. They have some rooms with jakuzzi and they are gf:) Pretty close to soi 7 and 8 and with nice and clean rooms.
But when i brought 2 girls I had tp pay 300 for the second girl.
Fun And Sun
01-21-10, 22:20
Thank you all, Fun and Sun and Michi in particular.
No idea now where soi 7 and 8 are, yet. By the way, can you suggest any bar in particular?
Thanks
If you are heading away from Walking Street then once you get to Soi 6 you have passed Soi 7 and Soi 8, so just go a bit slower on your scooter next time... :)
Come to think of it, if you walk up Soi 7 (or Soi 6 or Soi 8), they tend to blur a bit for me, when you get to second road you will see a bunch of beer bars there across the street where several are a bit more quiet. There is one (Lek's Tavern from memory) that has no music at all, and seems to cater mainly to the older, local (s)expat crowd.
If you are heading away from Walking Street then once you get to Soi 6 you have passed Soi 7 and Soi 8, so just go a bit slower on your scooter next time... :)
Come to think of it, if you walk up Soi 7 (or Soi 6 or Soi 8), they tend to blur a bit for me, when you get to second road you will see a bunch of beer bars there across the street where several are a bit more quiet. There is one (Lek's Tavern from memory) that has no music at all, and seems to cater mainly to the older, local (s)expat crowd.Yea, and it took me awhile to realise that the larger busy road between soi 6 and soi 7 is a road with a name not a number.
thank you all, fun and sun and michi in particular.
i rented a scooter and managed to find soi 6 but a bit of disappointment once there: lots of girls looking sweet-sixteen, i mean i dig them young but not that [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900).
on the other hand, i see some guys at my hotel always with fine girls and from what i got thru the grapevine i am under the impression that they got them on soi 2. ho does it works there? same old barfine or have to buy drink for the lady?
no idea now where soi 7 and 8 are, yet. by the way, can you suggest any bar in particular?
to the other guy suggesting go-gos...
well, i might afford it once in a while when i want to raise level of good looking girls. can you name one or two (the best in your opinion) and specify drink costs, barfine + rates?
thanksi liked the show at a go-go named something like evilwitch. i was quoted as high as 5000 at the gogo place with the space costumes. i think normally ltat a gogo is around 2000, but for me i sure wish i had done the one for 5k. so fine. take into consideration the entire cost of your trip and 1k extra per night won't seem so significant. mostly be honest with yourself about what you really want and you will be happy.
Yea, and it took me awhile to realise that the larger busy road between soi 6 and soi 7 is a road with a name not a number.
You are referring to Pattaya Central Road (Pattaya Klang).
Lots of the numbered Sois have names as well.
You should have picked yourself up a free map of Pattaya which are found in just about every restaurant and hotel, or this one on the Net:
http://www.guidetothailand.com/pattaya-thailand/map-pattaya-city.php
GregLondon
01-22-10, 09:54
Bros, advise please good hotel 4-5 stars GF in PTT. Not far from Soi 7,8.
Maybe somebody knows a good one? it would be the best with jakuzzi in a room.
Thank you!
I would try the Penthouse Suites hotel.
You would be betwen walking street on the one hand and Soi 7/8 on the other and easy to walk/bhat bus between.
More importantly the rooms are specifically designed for sexual pleasure rather than being bog standard rooms you can find anywhere in the room. The Mid priced rooms up have jacuzzis in the room (the Party rooms have 2 jacuzzis). Other features include mirrors on the ceilings and walls so you can see eactly what naughtiness is going on, fantastic shower roms (iin the mid up rooms desiugned for fucking in the shower, gogo poles (pretty usefless unless you get LadyBoys who tend to be in to that sort of thing) Mood lighting, Sex Swings, Firm beds, indoor pool complete with slides etc - a buit chilly but plenty of nooky takes place there when a few guys BF a bunch a girls.
The web site gives a sense of the style of the p[lace though is frankly rather disorganised.
http://www.penthousehotel.com/
Also don't be put off by the sometimes rather indifferent reception staff, insist on them showing you a few rooms so you get a feel for the options available.
GregLondon
01-22-10, 10:05
Forgot to ad re girl friendly. of course the Penthouse is girl freindly. Theyu allow 2 thai joiners per customer with no extra charge. The bell boy once told me that a couple of dudes once took 15 girls to one of the party suites (which dont cost much more than a normal 4 /5 star hotel to celebrate one of their 50th birthdays. Not sure how many they actually managed to do but one hell of a memorable way to celebrate your half century. beats blowing out a bunch of candles any day LOL
I would try the Penthouse Suites hotel.
You would be betwen walking street on the one hand and Soi 7/8 on the other and easy to walk/bhat bus between.
More importantly the rooms are specifically designed for sexual pleasure rather than being bog standard rooms you can find anywhere in the room. The Mid priced rooms up have jacuzzis in the room (the Party rooms have 2 jacuzzis). Other features include mirrors on the ceilings and walls so you can see eactly what naughtiness is going on, fantastic shower roms (iin the mid up rooms desiugned for fucking in the shower, gogo poles (pretty usefless unless you get LadyBoys who tend to be in to that sort of thing) Mood lighting, Sex Swings, Firm beds, indoor pool complete with slides etc - a buit chilly but plenty of nooky takes place there when a few guys BF a bunch a girls.
The web site gives a sense of the style of the p[lace though is frankly rather disorganised.
http://www.penthousehotel.com/
Also don't be put off by the sometimes rather indifferent reception staff, insist on them showing you a few rooms so you get a feel for the options available.
Fun And Sun
01-22-10, 12:35
I liked the show at a go-go named something like evilwitch. I was quoted as high as 5000 at the gogo place with the space costumes. I think normally LTat a gogo is around 2000, but for me I sure wish I had done the one for 5k. So fine. Take into consideration the entire cost of your trip and 1k extra per night won't seem so significant. Mostly be honest with yourself about what you really want and you will be happy.
Do you mean Angelwitch? If so I second that, it is probably my favourite a go-go in Patts. Shows always seem to start late though, and the 4 mama-sans are a bit pushy about getting tequila shots.
Thanks a lot, guys! It's very usefull! Penthouse website is very. Modern.
What do you think about dirty sea and sands on the city centre beaches?
It is real dirty there? Some guys recommend me to be closer to south of Pattay. 10-15 min on Tuk-Tuk by Walking St.
Maybe it's bulshit and situation is same in 50km area?
Thanks for answers!
ok i read this report and thought ok down ithere in pattaya practically the whole economy is based on pay for sex and there it's besotted with go go's, beer bars, brothels and bath houses. now as i read into this story it first appears that police just dont want any foriegners making money from thier investment in a bar that sells sex but thais aswell. enjoy the read and may all you newbies get a crash course on asian thai logic or what may also be known as thai culture. a culture that has been asociated with the phenomina of culture shock. its not shock my friends. it is your inner concience telling you something is wrong here.
here is the read:
police crackdown on foreign operated sex bars
pattaya: -- informed sources from several police divisions have told the pattaya times that a very serious crackdown will begin next month to catch foreign business people who are financial backers of gay bars, beer bars and a go-gos where there is sex for sale in pattaya.
these bars charge a "bar fine" to the customer and let the employee leave for the night or a "short time" usually about two to three hours. it is suspected that many of these rendezvous are sexually related, police said. police investigations will determine who pays the bills and gets the profits. if the person is a foreigner then their visa will be revoked and they will be expelled from the kingdom. if it is a thai they will be arrested if sex is for sale. there is much concern about organized crime in the nightlife venues, said one official.
"where did the money come from? who is behind it? where does the money go?" asked one policechief rhetorically.
in a related matter, there will be an interpol office opening in pattaya to help catch more than 2,000 foreigners wanted in thailand on various charges.
"keep in mind, thais are pretty easy to find compared to foreigners, thais have a mandatory national id card and associated number with a microchip of their history on the card. they must be registered in a
house book so that at all times there is someone who can say where the person is living if the police want to talk with them. this crackdown on foreigners built up to this point because it is relatively easy for us to disappear in the villages and big cities. or to simply leave the country," said drew noyes of pappa legal services in pattaya.
"i advise anyone who has invested in a bar that might be suspected of illegal acts to clear up the problem and make sure they are not associated with any business that is engaged in illegal activities. the thai police are taking this very seriously. sure, in the past we have heard rumors of crackdowns, but i don't think we have ever seen a crackdown like the one that is about to happen," said drew noyes, former three-term expat club leader and 13 year resident.
"there are many bars that we foreigners like to go to relax and part of the attraction of pattaya is this nightlife. if everyone will make sure that nothing offensive to thai culture occurs inside these places and no foreigner is associated managerially or financially by a paper trail with these clubs then this crackdown may not cause many people problems. it is great to see the police crackdown on **** sex, drugs and many of the associate problems that come with the bar business, but it is important that foreigners know the law and make sure bars they are invested in are not under scrutiny by the police for prostitution. there are ways to protect yourself now," managing director of the pattaya times drew noyes added.
The question about penthouse is if they ever have done anything about the black mold in the bathrooms and musty smells there, too. That damp damage has been reported here several times. Location is great - facility is, unfortunately, NOT.
well, globotto - it all depends on whose PALM gets greased. I guess the complaint is that the money doesn't STAY in MuangThai? Or at least that has been the issue in the past.
Personally I wouldn't be keen to take a swim in the sea anywhere in the Pattaya area is it all smells of diesel from the idiots riding jetskis plus all the pollution from the hotels. Get a hotel with a pool. You can go and sit under one of the shoddy umbrellas on the beach if you like, but I think if yopu want a nice beach maybe you need to take a bike and drive some distance away. Don't come to Pattaya if you are looking for a bucket and spade holiday.
Thanks a lot, guys! It's very usefull! Penthouse website is very. Modern.
What do you think about dirty sea and sands on the city centre beaches?
It is real dirty there? Some guys recommend me to be closer to south of Pattay. 10-15 min on Tuk-Tuk by Walking St.
Maybe it's bulshit and situation is same in 50km area?
Thanks for answers!
The question about penthouse is if they ever have done anything about the black mold in the bathrooms and musty smells there, too. That damp damage has been reported here several times. Location is great. Facility is, unfortunately, NOT.I'm not sure when you were at the Penthouse last Dingey but I'm here now and my bathroom is sparkling, walk in with double showers black Italian style tiles and loads of mirrors. I agree with the other 2 posters about the Penthouse. It's a fun place, because whereas almost everyone else has just build a normal hotel or rooms with all the standard kit, this place has been designed specifically with erotic pleasure in mind. The only other place I've found that concept is in the Japanese Love Hotels. Dingey is right it doesn't have the antiseptic smell of normal upscale hotels and the owner is a bit eccentric, but personally I get more than my fair share of antispetic hotels with flash marble reception areas in my business life and I'm ready for something different when I come to Pattaya, but it takes all sorts.
Re the jacuzzi question some of the rooms here have them, the more expensive of course others not. Coincidentally a huge one arrived yesterday, they haven't figured how to get it up to the rooms yet so it was still on the pool table this morning. I think you're going to be able to fit quite a few cuties in there, but may need to take swimming lessons before you take a dip. Pic attached
PS next post I have some naughty shots of my latest girl in the bathroom, so let me know if you can spot the mold. LOL
Opinion seems to be split re pregnant girls. About 90% of guys seem appalled by the idea, the other 10% turned on. Anyhow if you happen to be in the 10% you might like the attached pics.
Actually when I first met her she claimed to be a little pom poi. I guess she had met alot of that 90%. She then claimed to be 4 months gone, but looks more like about 7 months to me. Anyhow the boobs and enlarged nipples are a real turn on for me. She's 20 and of course the Thai BF has done a runner so she's left in Pattaya to generate some cash before she goes back to Issan to have the baby and leave it with mum. Obviously some positions are out and I thought it prudent to leave the Penthouse sex swing for another day but she takes it in her pussy like a trooper (which I guess is how she got into trouble in the first place) and gives a damm fine soapy tit fuck in the shower and passable BBBJ. Her English is quite good and overall service attitude about average.
She is hurting for cash so anyone in that 10% up for a different experience she is available 600-700B short time. PM your Thai cell no and I'll pass it on to her or your email and I'll email you hers. I'm a junior member so not I cannot PM you details I think. Don't mention you have seen the pics LOL.
JohnnieBravo
01-23-10, 17:19
The question about penthouse is if they ever have done anything about the black mold in the bathrooms and musty smells there, too. That damp damage has been reported here several times. Location is great - facility is, unfortunately, NOT.
I am with Dinghy on this one. The Penthouse is an interesting hotel with some great facilities for the punter, but there have just been too many reports of cleanliness issues for me to want to stay there. I guess if you are willing to deal with mice or roaches in order to make use of the facilities it may be ok, but I for one am not.
We choose http://www.Sunsetpark.co.th/ cool hotel with separate houses.
But, I can't find any information about GF in this hotel here.
Maybe somebody know this hotel or have any information about?
Anyway, thanks a lot!
And what do you think about hotels Which are far from the centre of PTT.
Approximately 10-15 km. Are they GF too?
Whether happens that some hotel rejected access for a girl with you?
Ofcourse I understand, that the best way to "no problem" fuck in hotel it is try approved one from a list from here.
But it would be great to live in bungalow and fuck there))
Sorry for bad english.
i recently went to pattaya and wasn't too impressed with the penthouse. a nicer hotel is on the corner of soi diana, in between [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901)'s and the devils den.
[CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900) has excellent bbbj with swallow, and devils den is superb - search my past report on same.
god i love pattaya!
Dextro Sol
01-23-10, 20:14
i recently went to pattaya and wasn't too impressed with the penthouse. a nicer hotel is on the corner of soi diana, in between [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901)'s and the devils den.
[CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900) has excellent bbbj with swallow, and devils den is superb - search my past report on same.
god i love pattaya!
whats the name of that hotel? which side of the road? same as [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900) and dd??
btw... does anybody know the name of a hotel situated nearly across dd??
whats the name of that hotel? which side of the road? same as [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900) and dd??
btw... does anybody know the name of a hotel situated nearly across dd??
i think the hotel across from dd is the billabong hotel.
GregLondon
01-23-10, 20:47
I am with Dinghy on this one. The Penthouse is an interesting hotel with some great facilities for the punter, but there have just been too many reports of cleanliness issues for me to want to stay there. I guess if you are willing to deal with mice or roaches in order to make use of the facilities it may be ok, but I for one am not.
I think it's very much a matter of personal taste and what you value. There are some nice new mini hotels around Pattaya such as the Pasadena that JB is referring to. These offer simple, quite stylish new rooms which are easy for the cleaners to sweep clean. The lobby in particular looks very elegant, though I've never actually seen anyone hanging out there. However as far as the rooms themselves are concerned you could be in any city in the world. The Penthouse is an older hotel, though it has been upgraded many times. It is idiosyncratic and sprawling so not so simple to keep clean. If you are a particularly sensitive type who likes to clean his hands with cleansing fluid 5 times a day, you had probably better stay away. In the 10 years I've been coming to Pattaya I've mostly stayed at the PH, though I had a period of staying in some of the nicer places on LK Metro when there was a big price differential (which there no longer is). I can honestly say that in all that time I didn't spot a single mouse there. There are alot of roach traps as they had a bit of an outbreak a few years back but even then I only ever saw one or two and I haven't seen any at all for the last few years I've visited. My advice to any newbies would be to check out a few of these places, ask to see the rooms and make your own mind up.
Personally I wouldn't be keen to take a swim in the sea anywhere in the Pattaya area is it all smells of diesel from the idiots riding jetskis plus all the pollution from the hotels.
, but I think if yopu want a nice beach maybe you need to take a bike and drive some distance away..
No, forget about the drive, for a really nice beach and clear topical water to bathe in, just go to end of Walking St and take a 20b ferry to a nearby isle. Its easy and more enjoyable (unless you're the type that gets seasick)
Shark
I did penthouse twice - 4 years ago for ONE night (allergic reaction to the mold) and then decided that maybe it was a fluke and tried them again 3 years ago again for ONE night. The musty smells permeating the whole room didn't do much for me. True, they were both "interior" rooms (no exterior windows)
IF it has improved, maybe I need another try (hell, it can only be one night to KNOW fer sure.)
Lately I stay in a place with lots of Thai. Seems it's a Thai working girl's place
HotShaneHot
01-24-10, 02:09
Opinion seems to be split re pregnant girls. About 90% of guys seem appalled by the idea, the other 10% turned on. Anyhow if you happen to be in the 10% you might like the attached pics.
Actually when I first met her she claimed to be a little pom poi. I guess she had met alot of that 90%. She then claimed to be 4 months gone, but looks more like about 7 months to me. Anyhow the boobs and enlarged nipples are a real turn on for me. She's 20 and of course the Thai BF has done a runner so she's left in Pattaya to generate some cash before she goes back to Issan to have the baby and leave it with mum. Obviously some positions are out and I thought it prudent to leave the Penthouse sex swing for another day but she takes it in her pussy like a trooper (which I guess is how she got into trouble in the first place) and gives a damm fine soapy tit fuck in the shower and passable BBBJ. Her English is quite good and overall service attitude about average.
She is hurting for cash so anyone in that 10% up for a different experience she is available 600-700B short time. PM your Thai cell no and I'll pass it on to her or your email and I'll email you hers. I'm a junior member so not I cannot PM you details I think. Don't mention you have seen the pics LOL.It is so nice to have sex when she is soon to have a baby.
Ther body is so nice to.
Love them photo's nice.
All so love to see her one day.
JohnnieBravo
01-24-10, 03:32
I am jealous Larry. Try as I might I was not able to find a preg woman last time I was in the LOS. Congrats on the find and on the marvelous pics. Way to go!
Opinion seems to be split re pregnant girls. About 90% of guys seem appalled by the idea, the other 10% turned on. Anyhow if you happen to be in the 10% you might like the attached pics.
Actually when I first met her she claimed to be a little pom poi. I guess she had met alot of that 90%. She then claimed to be 4 months gone, but looks more like about 7 months to me. Anyhow the boobs and enlarged nipples are a real turn on for me. She's 20 and of course the Thai BF has done a runner so she's left in Pattaya to generate some cash before she goes back to Issan to have the baby and leave it with mum. Obviously some positions are out and I thought it prudent to leave the Penthouse sex swing for another day but she takes it in her pussy like a trooper (which I guess is how she got into trouble in the first place) and gives a damm fine soapy tit fuck in the shower and passable BBBJ. Her English is quite good and overall service attitude about average.
She is hurting for cash so anyone in that 10% up for a different experience she is available 600-700B short time. PM your Thai cell no and I'll pass it on to her or your email and I'll email you hers. I'm a junior member so not I cannot PM you details I think. Don't mention you have seen the pics LOL.
It is so nice to have sex when she is soon to have a baby.
Ther body is so nice to.
Love them photo's nice.
All so love to see her one day.Thanks for the complement Hotshane and JohnnieB. I do feel a bit sorry for her as she is really struggling to find guys who are interested and is thus very low on the dough as it were. The irony is that there are a bunch of guys out there who like Johnnie be says are really looking to at least try a girl like this.
I agree with Hotshane that there is a huge difference between the body of a fat and lazy girl and the body of a normally slim girl who is pregnant where the flesh is firm and taught.
I just realised that as a free member I can't get PMs at all so appologies to anyone who has tried to PM for her number. I have to say I'm kind of impressed with her phlegmatic attitude to it all, she seems to very much be taking it all in her stride. I guess it's just par for the course here.
Last night I met up with another list member GregLondon who has been staying here and passed her number to him. He is a senior member on this list so you can PM him and he said he will pass on her details. But please only meet her if you are a sensible guy. If you are a young stud who wants to bang a girl's brains out for 2 hours there are thousands of others to choose from. I don't want to be responsible for any accidents.
Larry
GregLondon
01-24-10, 10:58
I am jealous Larry. Try as I might I was not able to find a preg woman last time I was in the LOS. Congrats on the find and on the marvelous pics. Way to go!
I met up with Big Larry last night and he told me about this girl. Hes an ordinary member of this forum and hadn't realised you can't PM him. if you are interested to give her a spin drop me a PM and i can pass on her number. Can't believe what a nice guy I am. But go easy on her lads.
Dinghy, if you are alergic to things the PH may not be the place for you. They have lots of cats for one. All the rooms are different so best to take a look at a few and find one that suits you if you decide to give it another try.
And what do you think about hotels Which are far from the centre of PTT.
Approximately 10-15 km. Are they GF too?
Whether happens that some hotel rejected access for a girl with you?
Ofcourse I understand, that the best way to "no problem" fuck in hotel it is try approved one from a list from here.
But it would be great to live in bungalow and fuck there))
Sorry for bad english.
On my first trip to Thailand (in 1999), I made several newbie's mistakes, one of them was to stay in a NON-girl friendly resort in Jomtien (Pinnacle Grand Jomtien Resort & Spa).
The place was nice, but it was a bit far from the heart of Pattaya (hourly shuttle minibus service was available to Pattaya, but it was not possible to use it for coming back to the resort after 11pm or midnight - I don't remember exactly but it was not very late - and the last departure to Pattaya from the resort was at 10pm or 11pm). I usually had to pay a baht bus (songthaew) 100 baht for the return trip.
Needless to say that you have to choose the right girl and pay her for a LT session if you want to bring her back with you in this kind of hotel or resort. I did not rent a vehicle then, because it was my first trip to Thailand and I was a bit afraid about several matters (road safety being one of them as I was not used yet to drive on the left side of the road, I did not know the area much, etc.). So, if you've made the wrong choice with your girl, you're screwed (and not in the best way!) in this kind of place (especially when you are a newbie and don't know the area very well).
The joiner fee was 500 baht then, now, it's apparently 550 baht (an "extra person charge" is mentioned on their website). Impossible to avoid it when coming back with a guest to the resort after the night has fallen (the hotel security staff was very vigilant), but I successfully managed to come back a few times unnoticed in the afternoon with a girl.
I would not recommend it (I mean, this kind of resort or hotel). There are so many good and GF accommodations in Pattaya, it's not worth (IMHO) being too far away from the heart of the city, unless it's a GF place and provided that you have your own vehicle (or good transportation available 24/7 for a reasonable price), of course.
cats don't bother me... especially "pussy" cats :)
mold/mildew allergy - actually rather common and in my case a bit severe - I carry my inhalers for "emergency".
this girl looks, despite very pregnat, also terribly **** to me mate.
Any experience with Nivana hotel?
I know it's a little far, but are there joiner fees especially for more than one lady?
Thanks,
Shaolin
this girl looks, despite very pregnat, also terribly **** to me mate.well she said she is 20 and the penthouse has a strict policy of checking the girl's id that she is 18+ as they know that their customers can land land in big and expensive trouble with **** girls and they confirmed her id says 20
larry
Primo Bolan
01-25-10, 14:01
Any experience with Nivana hotel?
I know it's a little far, but are there joiner fees especially for more than one lady?
Thanks,
Shaolin
Keep the hotelQ to the Pattaya Hotel Thread
Normad2020
01-26-10, 06:54
i believed the hotel he was referring to as "in between [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900) and dd" is pasadena and the hotel "situated nearly across" from dd is billabong.
am planning another trip to pattaya soon.....
cheers
normad2020
whats the name of that hotel? which side of the road? same as [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900) and dd??
btw... does anybody know the name of a hotel situated nearly across dd??
Hakan Demir
01-26-10, 10:04
Next week I would be visiting Pattaya for a week for the first time. I won't have enough time for mongering. So which of the bars are a must see for a beginner? And any advice for the best Massage Parlour? Is it possible to find Russian working girls?
Thanks for help.
On my first trip to Thailand (in 1999), I made several newbie's mistakes, one of them was to stay in a NON-girl friendly resort in Jomtien (Pinnacle Grand Jomtien Resort & Spa).
The place was nice, but it was a bit far from the heart of Pattaya (hourly shuttle minibus service was available to Pattaya, but it was not possible to use it for coming back to the resort after 11pm or midnight - I don't remember exactly but it was not very late - and the last departure to Pattaya from the resort was at 10pm or 11pm). I usually had to pay a baht bus (songthaew) 100 baht for the return trip.
Needless to say that you have to choose the right girl and pay her for a LT session if you want to bring her back with you in this kind of hotel or resort. I did not rent a vehicle then, because it was my first trip to Thailand and I was a bit afraid about several matters (road safety being one of them as I was not used yet to drive on the left side of the road, I did not know the area much, etc.). So, if you've made the wrong choice with your girl, you're screwed (and not in the best way!) in this kind of place (especially when you are a newbie and don't know the area very well).
The joiner fee was 500 baht then, now, it's apparently 550 baht (an "extra person charge" is mentioned on their website). Impossible to avoid it when coming back with a guest to the resort after the night has fallen (the hotel security staff was very vigilant), but I successfully managed to come back a few times unnoticed in the afternoon with a girl.
I would not recommend it (I mean, this kind of resort or hotel). There are so many good and GF accommodations in Pattaya, it's not worth (IMHO) being too far away from the heart of the city, unless it's a GF place and provided that you have your own vehicle (or good transportation available 24/7 for a reasonable price), of course.I stayed there a year ago but managed to avoid your mistakes by bringing my own gal with me from BKK, and hiring a motorbike (OK, scooter) from a garage next door.
Otherwise the hotel was fine, with a reasonable beach and nice pool. I spent one very pleasurable evening shooting baskets from the pool, only to find that the Shrimp was actually better than me, and had been something of a netball star at school...
But yes, it would be a crap place to stay if you hadn't brought your own company. It is very definitely a family hotel (old fat Germans mainly :)) I also seem to remember that you had to pay for the shuttle bus and it would have been shockingly expensive.
Amazing pics of the preg girl. She was beautiful. I bet you had a great time. I love doing it to preg girls. Iam visiting Pattaya in March. I hope she is there till then, if she is 4 months preg now. What do you think?
Cheers
Ragoji
Thanks for the complement Hotshane and JohnnieB. I do feel a bit sorry for her as she is really struggling to find guys who are interested and is thus very low on the dough as it were. The irony is that there are a bunch of guys out there who like Johnnie be says are really looking to at least try a girl like this.
I agree with Hotshane that there is a huge difference between the body of a fat and lazy girl and the body of a normally slim girl who is pregnant where the flesh is firm and taught.
I just realised that as a free member I can't get PMs at all so appologies to anyone who has tried to PM for her number. I have to say I'm kind of impressed with her phlegmatic attitude to it all, she seems to very much be taking it all in her stride. I guess it's just par for the course here.
Last night I met up with another list member GregLondon who has been staying here and passed her number to him. He is a senior member on this list so you can PM him and he said he will pass on her details. But please only meet her if you are a sensible guy. If you are a young stud who wants to bang a girl's brains out for 2 hours there are thousands of others to choose from. I don't want to be responsible for any accidents.
Larry
... I also seem to remember that you had to pay for the shuttle bus and it would have been shockingly expensive.
The shuttle bus was not that expensive (at least, in 1999). It was 50 baht per one-way trip then.
The shuttle bus was not that expensive (at least, in 1999). It was 50 baht per one-way trip then. 10 years passed since 1999.
Anyway thanks a lot for your answer!
Khun Larry
01-27-10, 00:14
She is hurting for cash so anyone in that 10% up for a different experience she is available 600-700B short time.
Price is reasonable
JohnnieBravo
01-27-10, 01:24
I was wondering if anyone had any experience with the Castle in Pattaya? For those not familiar it is a fetish type club. I am thinking of trying somthing different next visit but am not sure if that place is a clip joint or not. Anyone with some experience with this place please advise. Thanks.
Castle is "different" - remember to wear black. Pretty straightforward, but no "heavy" stuff there. Ya gets what ya pays for as long as it's "light bondage" (of course some will whip you if that's your fantasy.)
Saint Mint
01-27-10, 03:18
Next week I would be visiting Pattaya for a week for the first time. I won't have enough time for mongering. So which of the bars are a must see for a beginner? And any advice for the best Massage Parlour? Is it possible to find Russian working girls?
Thanks for help.Hakan,
Taking a walk, down the world famous 'Pattaya City Walking Street' is probably a must for a first timer. This is the street that 'Comes Alive' at night (late at night). Don't go during the day. There are many bars and Go-Go Bars. I prefer Angel Witch(www.Angelwitchpattaya). This is a Go-Go Bar with a pretty decent show. You might also find a few Eastern European places in a similar side street to this street. Sabai Land might be pretty good for a 'Soapy Massage' (www.Pattayaphotoguide.com/sabailand-body-massage) but, I have not been for a very long time.
Enjoy your stay.
10 years passed since 1999...Sure! And I didn't come back there for reasons mentioned in my previous report. I don't recommend this place, and if even the somewhat reasonable fare for the minibus shuttle service is not reasonable anymore, that's just an additional reason for not staying there!
I was wondering if anyone had any experience with the Castle in Pattaya? For those not familiar it is a fetish type club. I am thinking of trying somthing different next visit but am not sure if that place is a clip joint or not. Anyone with some experience with this place please advise. Thanks.Have not been johnny, but i short timed a beautiful girl from there and she ended up staying the night, i asked her about the place and she basically said you get abused soon as you walk in, i dont know much about this stuff its not my thing but she said they just hit you whip you, talk to you like a dog and generally abuse you. dont know if this helps?
GregLondon
01-28-10, 08:40
Following on the interest in Big Larry's Preggie girl find I came across a beach rd girl yesterday who said she was an enthusiastic 3 holer. Not my cup of tea, but I know many guys into that struggle to find a half way decent girl so I took her no to pass on to anyone interested. Says her name is Yo, in early-mid 30s I would guess. Very slim, said she had a baby but i checked and no stretch marks, seemed reasonable boobs but I guess not firm, reasonably cute.
No further due diligence done so no it's a buyer beware. Keen to do everything inc ass for 500B. PM if you want her number.
Castle is "different" - remember to wear black. Pretty straightforward, but no "heavy" stuff there. Ya gets what ya pays for as long as it's "light bondage" (of course some will whip you if that's your fantasy.)
What if you are not submissive and looking for a subbie girl?
Be Safe,
APAC Man
JohnnieBravo
01-29-10, 03:51
What if you are not submissive and looking for a subbie girl?
Be Safe,
APAC Man
Right APAC Man, I was approaching this from the point of a DOM not a sub.
Right APAC Man, I was approaching this from the point of a DOM not a sub.
I am too, though not as active as I was in my younger age. It seems that in most of these clubs the WG are Domme and occasional subbies that you may find are males! I suppose it is easier, and safer, to fake being dominant than to fake being submissive. Also it seems that the majority of those who frequent these clubs are Japanese men that want to abused so there are no incentives for having submissive girls there.
Be Safe,
APAC Man
Susu Lover
01-30-10, 02:43
Hello Players,
Too lazy to RTFF, where can I find a spot in Patts and AC to dress up my girls in some hot stuff? I don't feel like stuffing those "clothes" in my suitcase. All responses will be sincerely appreciated!
Hello, Players,
Too lazy to RTFF, where can I find a spot in Patts and AC to dress up my girls in some hot stuff? I don't feel like stuffing those "clothes" in my suitcase. All responses will be sincerely appreciated!In Soi Boukow, right opposite witherspoons is a cool shop sells all you need, if you don't know where witherspoons is, its next door to oasis go go, its the main drag through soi boukow.
Hello Players,
Too lazy to RTFF, where can I find a spot in Patts and AC to dress up my girls in some hot stuff? I don't feel like stuffing those "clothes" in my suitcase. All responses will be sincerely appreciated!
In Pattaya there is a shop on Soi Buakhao in the vicinity of LK Metro (on the same side of the road as LK Metro).
It seems to have a good selection of sexy outfits, and is the only place that I have come across.
There are a few shops on Beach Road and Second Road that sell 'baby doll' outfits, but that as much as I have come across.
I don't know anywhere that sells 'toys' like vibrators etc.
Member #3428
01-30-10, 17:08
Hello Players,
Too lazy to RTFF, where can I find a spot in Patts and AC to dress up my girls in some hot stuff? I don't feel like stuffing those "clothes" in my suitcase. All responses will be sincerely appreciated!
http://www.boutique-sexy-pattaya.com/index.html
http://www.boutique-sexy-pattaya.com/index.htmlOK, that video has confirmed my plans. :) Plane lands 5am Tuesday and it's straight into a limo for Pattaya. :) :)
Mr Enternational
02-01-10, 04:20
The pics were taken Sept. 3rd, 2008. She does hang out opposite soi Yamato indeed. Seen her quite a few times there since then.
She's getting old but I still don't think that she looks "atrocious". You're being a bit harsh on her. I thought everybody had had enough of her. She's the most photographed Thai hooker ever, a legend! I've got only 2 more (well a few others too but they're not originally mine :) ). I am not that much into making photographs, sorry.I have been to Pattaya 6 or 7 times but I can never find this Na character. If anyone has any contact info on her please PM me.
I have been to Pattaya 6 or 7 times but I can never find this Na character. If anyone has any contact info on her please PM me.
Sorry, I've lost my phone at least twice since I went with her and I am not even sure that she had a phone number to give to me.
But it is EASY to find her, I always see her withouth searching for her. Just sit on the benches opposite soi Yamato for one or two hours in late afternoon/early evening and have a few beers, she'll sure show up. She's always alone, never talks to any other girl. Next time I see her, I will ask her if she has a mobile # and if she does, it will be available here per PM.
Member #2041
02-01-10, 05:17
Sorry, I've lost my phone at least twice since I went with her and I am not even sure that she had a phone number to give to me.
But it is EASY to find her, I always see her withouth searching for her. Just sit on the benches opposite soi Yamato for one or two hours in late afternoon/early evening and have a few beers, she'll sure show up. She's always alone, never talks to any other girl. Next time I see her, I will ask her if she has a mobile # and if she does, it will be available here per PM.
I went with her about 7 weeks ago. I would say she still looked better than average, although not as good as the photos of her from a few years ago, but had a couple of dark marks on her back that I didn't know what they were. She didn't have a phone at the time. I will say this - I made sure to cover up with her.
I went with her about 7 weeks ago. I would say she still looked better than average, although not as good as the photos of her from a few years ago, but had a couple of dark marks on her back that I didn't know what they were. She didn't have a phone at the time. I will say this - I made sure to cover up with her.
Yes I think she's one of those "phoneless" hookers. Which indicates that she may do drugs but I am quite sure she doesn't. Her English is outstanding by the way, really impressing! Anyway she should have a phone, she could do a lot more business if she had one. Weird that she does not get it, I mean she's very savvy otherwise in respect to marketing herself.
Following on the interest in Big Larry's Preggie girl find I came across a beach rd girl yesterday who said she was an enthusiastic 3 holer. Not my cup of tea, but I know many guys into that struggle to find a half way decent girl so I took her no to pass on to anyone interested. Says her name is Yo, in early-mid 30s I would guess. Very slim, said she had a baby but i checked and no stretch marks, seemed reasonable boobs but I guess not firm, reasonably cute.
No further due diligence done so no it's a buyer beware. Keen to do everything inc ass for 500B. PM if you want her number.
What's her body like? Is she petite?
GregLondon
02-01-10, 14:01
What's her body like? Is she petite?
very slim about 42 kg i guess
Kurtweiler
02-01-10, 17:19
I have been to Pattaya 6 or 7 times but I can never find this Na character. If anyone has any contact info on her please PM me.Just walk down Soi 13 (the soi where you also will find Sandy Spring Hotel). Very often you will find Na sitting at the northern end of the "island" in the middle of Beach Road, right where you come down Soi 13. She is taking drugs, and if she one day has a phone, the next day she does not have it any longer. She has sold it to get money for drugs. She also had a mail address, but it is not working ay more.
Opinion seems to be split re pregnant girls. About 90% of guys seem appalled by the idea, the other 10% turned on. Anyhow if you happen to be in the 10% you might like the attached pics.
Actually when I first met her she claimed to be a little pom poi. I guess she had met alot of that 90%. She then claimed to be 4 months gone, but looks more like about 7 months to me. Anyhow the boobs and enlarged nipples are a real turn on for me. She's 20 and of course the Thai BF has done a runner so she's left in Pattaya to generate some cash before she goes back to Issan to have the baby and leave it with mum. Obviously some positions are out and I thought it prudent to leave the Penthouse sex swing for another day but she takes it in her pussy like a trooper (which I guess is how she got into trouble in the first place) and gives a damm fine soapy tit fuck in the shower and passable BBBJ. Her English is quite good and overall service attitude about average.
She is hurting for cash so anyone in that 10% up for a different experience she is available 600-700B short time. PM your Thai cell no and I'll pass it on to her or your email and I'll email you hers. I'm a junior member so not I cannot PM you details I think. Don't mention you have seen the pics LOL.Hi Big Larry,
I am defo in the 10% catergory. I will be in Patts in 4 weeks and would love to hook up with this cutie. How do I get her details from you? If I become a paid up member. I can pm you. But would you be able to respond if you are not a paid up member.
Moderator can you please assist?
Thanks
Talia
OK, that video has confirmed my plans. :) Plane lands 5am Tuesday and it's straight into a limo for Pattaya. :) :)Plane landed 4.40am, and by walking briskly I was first to the immigration lane. Over to the baggage carousel and my bag was third off. Through customs and up to Arrivals where I was grabbed by a pink cab and agreed 1200Bht all-in to Pattaya. Drove off at 5.20am and arrived at Nova Park Hotel 6.30am. Not bad, eh?
But that's where the luck ended as there was no room available, so I'm now sitting in the Jameson Bar recharging both my laptop and myself with appropriate juice.
I have no plans for 3 nights, so if anyone fancies a beer then drop me a line. I prefer to hang around Soi 7 and Soi 8, but part of the hotel choice was to force me to look at different areas...
For various reasons I see these three days as a chance to recuperate and relax, so I'm looking for some very pleasant GFEs to warm the cockles of my heart. I have also booked a personal favourite from Devil's Den for tomorrow night, and if she does that thing where she bites her lip as I... Ooops, sorry, must stop... :)
GregLondon
02-02-10, 02:37
Plane landed 4.40am, and by walking briskly I was first to the immigration lane. Over to the baggage carousel and my bag was third off. Through customs and up to Arrivals where I was grabbed by a pink cab and agreed 1200Bht all-in to Pattaya. Drove off at 5.20am and arrived at Nova Park Hotel 6.30am. Not bad, eh?
But that's where the luck ended as there was no room available, so I'm now sitting in the Jameson Bar recharging both my laptop and myself with appropriate juice.
I have no plans for 3 nights, so if anyone fancies a beer then drop me a line. I prefer to hang around Soi 7 and Soi 8, but part of the hotel choice was to force me to look at different areas...
For various reasons I see these three days as a chance to recuperate and relax, so I'm looking for some very pleasant GFEs to warm the cockles of my heart. I have also booked a personal favourite from Devil's Den for tomorrow night, and if she does that thing where she bites her lip as I... Ooops, sorry, must stop... :)
Real GFE is rather hard to come by nowadays in Patts as most of the girls are wanting to get a bunch of guys short time. I just left Pattaya where i spent a couple of weeks witha girl Ive known for a year now. She's really trying to find a long term foreign partner to get her out of Pattaya but in the meantime is up for (paid) holiday flings. She's 28 but very nice figure no baby and very good sex and general GFE stuff speaks excellent English (but i helped her edit the stuff on her tagged profile so not quite that good) . Not into Devils Den Bottom Banditry. PM me if you are a decent quality guy and interested to meet her. She's a friend now so not going to hand her no to any shmuck just interested in banging as many girls as possible, gthat's easy to find in patts in any case
Her tagged profile is
http://www.tagged.com/yalis2010
Real GFE is rather hard to come by nowadays in Patts as most of the girls are wanting to get a bunch of guys short time. I just left Pattaya where i spent a couple of weeks witha girl Ive known for a year now. She's really trying to find a long term foreign partner to get her out of Pattaya but in the meantime is up for (paid) holiday flings. She's 28 but very nice figure no baby and very good sex and general GFE stuff speaks excellent English (but i helped her edit the stuff on her tagged profile so not quite that good) . Not into Devils Den Bottom Banditry. PM me if you are a decent quality guy and interested to meet her. She's a friend now so not going to hand her no to any shmuck just interested in banging as many girls as possible, gthat's easy to find in patts in any case
Her tagged profile is
http://www.tagged.com/yalis2010Seen her profile on a dating site too. Found the text interesting. Like "I'm looking for long-term and serious but if you just want fun, be honest as I also have bills to pay" :). You probably helped her write this text too.
GregLondon
02-02-10, 07:34
Seen her profile on a dating site too. Found the text interesting. Like "I'm looking for long-term and serious but if you just want fun, be honest as I also have bills to pay". You probably helped her write this text too.Yes Its really the position that most of the girls on DIA are in but they are not honest enough to admit it, so the guys pretend they are looking forfm a long term wife and the girsl pretend they can't do short term blah blah.
The bottom line is that most girls are looking fro a long term bond, if you are looking for short term fun and no strings and shes much younger and cuter than you, then you are generally going to have to pay up one way or another.
yes Its really the position that most of the girls on DIA are in but they are not honest enough to admit it, so the guys pretend they are looking forfm a long term wife and the girsl pretend they can't do short term blah blah
The bottom line is that most girls are looking fro a long term bond, if you are looking for short term fun and no strings and shes much younger and cuter than you, then you are generally going to have to pay up one way or another"Most of the girls on DIA", not in my experience! Maybe most Pattaya girls on DIA would be more appropriate as Pattaya girls (even mainstream working girls) tend to be more open in respect to P4P for obvious reasons. DIA Bangkok girls are mostly mainstream Thai girls with a real job looking for a real boyfriend and are neither into even "subtle" P4P nor into guys considerably older than they are. I've chatted with several 25-30 year old cuties for example who were still virgin. They'd have sex before marriage but definitely not before a long-term relationship has been established.
I guess some guys are on the hunt for these girls, sweet talk them into going to bed with them and dump them afterwards. Not my style at all, especially because I am not into virgins AND because I'm trying to be as honest as I can (of course my P4P activities remain secret).
I am dating a cute Isaan BKK middle class girl though at the moment who is virgin but for some reason I can't help seeing her, she's extremely smart and never ceases to amaze me so I am just going with the flow and if I decide that I want to "pop her cherry", I'll definitely be serious about it and go for a serious relationship.
Hi Big Larry,
I am defo in the 10% catergory. I will be in Patts in 4 weeks and would love to hook up with this cutie. How do I get her details from you? If I become a paid up member. I can pm you. But would you be able to respond if you are not a paid up member.
Thanks
TaliaI wouldn't get to excited about this pregnant girl, I appreciate big larry passing on her number, but when she arrived at my door she looked a sorry sight, and while the photos were the initial reason I wanted her in the flesh she was "rough" small, thick legs, blemishes and scars, big fat arse, a few sort of home made tattoos, will say she has a pretty face, but thats about it, apart from that her attitude was spot on, very skilled in the BJ department, finished in her mouth, and she took the lot. I thought it would be my cup of tea but, I wouldn't repeat it, I would say shes prob a fat girl anyway, without being pregnant. Nice hard tits.
GregLondon
02-02-10, 10:53
"Most of the girls on DIA", not in my experience! Maybe most Pattaya girls on DIA would be more appropriate as Pattaya girls (even mainstream working girls) tend to be more open in respect to P4P for obvious reasons. DIA Bangkok girls are mostly mainstream Thai girls with a real job looking for a real boyfriend and are neither into even "subtle" P4P nor into guys considerably older than they are. I've chatted with several 25-30 y.o. cuties for example who were still virgin. They'd have sex before marriage but definitely not before a long-term relationship has been established.
I guess some guys are on the hunt for these girls, sweet talk them into going to bed with them and dump them afterwards. Not my style at all, especially because I am not into virgins AND because I'm trying to be as honest as I can (of course my P4P activities remain secret).
I am dating a cute Isaan BKK middle class girl though at the moment who is virgin but for some reason I can't help seeing her, she's extremely smart and never ceases to amaze me so I am just going with the flow and if I decide that I want to "pop her cherry", I'll definitely be serious about it and go for a serious relationship.
Yes I generally only use DIA for Philly girls who probably constitute 80% of DIA females, I find it largely a waste of time for Thai girls. Maybe it would be different if I was living in Thailand and had the time to go the type of seduction process you are talking about, but i don't and therefore am looking for someone more immediately available.
I wouldn't get to excited about this pregnant girl, I appreciate big larry passing on her number, but when she arrived at my door she looked a sorry sight, and while the photos were the initial reason I wanted her in the flesh she was "rough" small, thick legs, blemishes and scars, big fat arse, a few sort of home made tattoos, will say she has a pretty face, but thats about it, apart from that her attitude was spot on, very skilled in the BJ department, finished in her mouth, and she took the lot. I thought it would be my cup of tea but, I wouldn't repeat it, I would say shes prob a fat girl anyway, without being pregnant. Nice hard tits.Thanks for the report Diceman. She does look pretty good in the photos but I guess this can in some cases be misleading.
Still I think I will see for myself and report back.
Cheers
GregLondon
02-03-10, 01:50
I wouldn't get to excited about this pregnant girl, I appreciate big larry passing on her number, but when she arrived at my door she looked a sorry sight, and while the photos were the initial reason I wanted her in the flesh she was "rough" small, thick legs, blemishes and scars, big fat arse, a few sort of home made tattoos, will say she has a pretty face, but thats about it, apart from that her attitude was spot on, very skilled in the BJ department, finished in her mouth, and she took the lot. I thought it would be my cup of tea but, I wouldn't repeat it, I would say shes prob a fat girl anyway, without being pregnant. Nice hard tits.
I've seen her in the flesh too, and for sure noone should be under the illusion that we are talking about a sophisticated elegant lady - which is probably why she has got banged up by her Thai Bf at aged 20 in the first place. She is just the typical issan girl who came to Pattaya to make some money doing short times. To be fair on Big Larry, I don't think he ever claimed anything different. I think she will be of primary interest just to those who have had a thing for preg girls or those who want to cross it off their "to do" list .
I've seen her in the flesh too, and for sure noone should be under the illusion that we are talking about a sophisticated elegant lady - which is probably why she has got banged up by her Thai Bf at aged 20 in the first place. She is just the typical issan girl who came to Pattaya to make some money doing short times. To be fair on Big Larry, I don't think he ever claimed anything different. I think she will be of primary interest just to those who have had a thing for preg girls or those who want to cross it off their "to do" list .
No one has claimed that shes a stunner, but shes young, cute, very pregnant, with a sweet compliant attitude, and has good sexual skills. She really does need money for her baby. Ive engaged her services twice, mainly for the novelty of doing a pregnant girl, and I enjoyed the experience both times. Shes a nice little girl caught in a difficult situation and I felt good about helping to support the little bun in the oven.
I hope she gets a ton of customers from this site.
Treat her nice. She's worth what she asks.
Phred Phish
02-03-10, 14:49
Hello,
I am heading to Pattaya the day after tomorrow, and will have just 2 days there before I head home. I could use a little advice on two topics:
1. Can anyone recommend a nice hotel, somewhere not far from walking street. Since I've only got two nights left, I don't mind paying for something that feels a little bit luxurious. Needless to say, extreme girl-friendliness is a must.
2. Any advice as to where to find real cuties? I tend to like 'em on the young (but legal!) side, small, pretty, and not too jaded (will sacrifice skill for innocence). I know that I can go from go-go to go-go, but any shortcuts would be appreciated. What is the going rate for such loveliness?
Thanks
p.s. I have just come through vietnam and cambodia and would be happy to reciprocate with info from there.
GregLondon
02-04-10, 03:48
hello,
i am heading to pattaya the day after tomorrow, and will have just 2 days there before i head home. i could use a little advice on two topics:
1. can anyone recommend a nice hotel, somewhere not far from walking street. since i've only got two nights left, i don't mind paying for something that feels a little bit luxurious. needless to say, extreme girl-friendliness is a must.
2. any advice as to where to find real cuties? i tend to like 'em on the young (but legal!) side, small, pretty, and not too jaded (will sacrifice skill for innocence). i know that i can go from go-go to go-go, but any shortcuts would be appreciated. what is the going rate for such loveliness?
thanks
p.s. i have just come through vietnam and cambodia and would be happy to reciprocate with info from there.
re hotels
i would check out the penthouse hotel in soi pattayaland about 5 mins off walking street
http://www.penthousehotel.com/
there was a spirited debate about the place a week or two back and it does have its detractors, however as far as could tell, the detractors hadn't stayed there for a few years or were worried about stories that a guy had spotted a mouse there in 2002 and the like. i've just come away from 3 weeks there and especially if you are willing to pay a little extra (say around 1500b) for the mid range rooms you will get mirrors on the ceilings, mood lighting, jacuzzi/great walkin shower, 42 inch lcd tv, firm high beds, free breakfast. gaudi like wall exteriors. most of the detractors focussed on cleanliness but whereas complicated and esoteric rooms such as these aren't as easy to clean than a square boxed rooms i really dont think 90% of people will find it an issue. i'm now in cebu paying 25% more than that for a shabby box room with a pathetic 12 inch tv and a couple of 20 year old spongy beds. the only compensation is that the girls in the phils are in my opinion much better than the commercially minded thai girls. as for the girls, i suspect that you will have to go to the bars and gogos. the police have hassled the beach rd girls so that its primarily ****d/no id, or single mums, or high mileage girls that hang out there now. the bar fine rates are 300-450b for bar beers and 600b for gogos, you need to discuss with the girls how much they are wiling to go for but i think 1000-2000b would be the typical asking price. along walking street at night the freelancers/barfined girls that walk around or hang out in the discos etc will probably also go for 1000-1500b. in this area few will go for 500b especially the high end type you are focussing on. the gogos have a different character . if you are looking for the innocent (looking) 18-22 with a perfect body and cute face, i would head for the gogos about 300 metres down walking street on the left such as supergirls/windmills etc. these tend to focus on asian clients who are into that sort of looks, the gogos in say soi 6/8 are more focussed on western customers who are generally more attracted to the raunchier girls
Phred Phish
02-04-10, 05:59
Thanks, GregLondon,
This is exactly the info I was looking for. Funny what you said about farang preferences for the raunchier girls and issues about room cleanliness. Raunchy looking rooms work just fine for me, even if they aren't quite squeaky clean. The opposite is true for my taste in girls (although I know that no girl is likely to be as squeaky clean as she looks!)
P
Phred Phish
02-04-10, 10:21
I find the Penthouse hotel's website a little bit off-putting, especially that they want you to provide a credit card payment for the entire stay up front.
Then, thinking about it. Do I really need the ability for pole-dancing in my bedroom? And how many years worth of accumulated secretions are likely to be soaked into all of that "interesting furniture"?
So. Does anybody have a suggestion for a similarly well-located place, but maybe with a little bit of a more modern elegant vibe?
(and one that still won't bat an eye at whoever might show up with me at various points in the night)?
Thanks again,
P
El Frances
02-04-10, 13:09
Real GFE is rather hard to come by nowadays in Patts as most of the girls are wanting to get a bunch of guys short time...
Apparently we don't know the same Pattaya. It's very easy to find GFE with bar girls or FL. For Gogo girls, it's another story....(it's not impossible though)
Hotman 666
02-04-10, 13:37
i just got back from thailand. in one of the pattaya go-go bars, just off walking street, i saw some very young looking dancers. after i bought one of these dancers a drink i asked her age.
she told me she was 17 years old and had worked at the bar just 2 weeks.
she may have been 17 but it would not surprise me if she was even younger!!
be very carefull!! i passed on this one and suggest that if you have any doubts that you do too.
after all the last thing we want is an encounter with the local "boys in brown" with accusations of **** sex!
regards,
hotman.
Apparently we don't know the same Pattaya. It's very easy to find GFE with bar girls or FL. For Gogo girls, it's another story....(it's not impossible though)
Completely agree with you. GFE is much easier to find in Pattaya than in Bangkok in my opinion. And sticking to standard Pattaya rates almost guarantees a GFE.
Phred Phish
02-04-10, 15:08
The delay for message postings by general members is annoying!
Booked myself into the DusitD2 for a total of $217 for two nights (including taxes, everything). By all accounts it's a pimping place and entirely GF. I will post a followup after all is said and done.
I have to say: The Penthouse Hotel may or may not be a fine place to stay but it seems to get a disproportionate amount of chatter on this board considering all of the other interesting options out there.
I just call 'em like I see 'em.
P
Mr Enternational
02-04-10, 18:05
Apparently we don't know the same Pattaya. It's very easy to find GFE with bar girls or FL. For Gogo girls, it's another story....(it's not impossible though)
Completely agree with you. GFE is much easier to find in Pattaya than in Bangkok in my opinion. And sticking to standard Pattaya rates almost guarantees a GFE.
I third that. Usually in Pattaya I have to give a girl her money and tell her it's time to go, especially with overnighters. Also in Patts I never have to do any hard bargaining, if I have to discuss price at all. The standard is usually upheld. If it is not then I take it the girl really does not want to go with me and I move on.
In BKK it's usually a headache haggling over the price. Then when you get the price right and get to the room they want to try to leave earlier than the agreed upon time, or make excuses like they are hurting.
I always deal with FL. I did a bar girl once in Pattaya, but she came by at 4am, after her shift, so I wouldn't have to pay the bar fine. Beautiful girl and very nice. A little too nice. Turned out to be a starfish, but stayed until I kicked her out the next afternoon. She had the nerve to call me later that day and ask if I wanted her to come by again.
My only other bad deal in Pattaya was a 700B LT agreement I made in a disco. It was early, only about 11pm. We got back to the hotel and she didn't want to take her clothes off and shower immediately. So I sent her away and went back to the disco. Other than those two, all of my Pattaya experiences have been GFE.
GregLondon
02-04-10, 19:33
I third that. Usually in Pattaya I have to give a girl her money and tell her it's time to go, especially with overnighters. Also in Patts I never have to do any hard bargaining, if I have to discuss price at all. The standard is usually upheld. If it is not then I take it the girl really does not want to go with me and I move on.
In BKK it's usually a headache haggling over the price. Then when you get the price right and get to the room they want to try to leave earlier than the agreed upon time, or make excuses like they are hurting.
I always deal with FL. I did a bar girl once in Pattaya, but she came by at 4am, after her shift, so I wouldn't have to pay the bar fine. Beautiful girl and very nice. A little too nice. Turned out to be a starfish, but stayed until I kicked her out the next afternoon. She had the nerve to call me later that day and ask if I wanted her to come by again.
My only other bad deal in Pattaya was a 700B LT agreement I made in a disco. It was early, only about 11pm. We got back to the hotel and she didn't want to take her clothes off and shower immediately. So I sent her away and went back to the disco. Other than those two, all of my Pattaya experiences have been GFE.
I guess this may be a question of what one considers as a good GFE which I think will depend on what is important for a guy. For me it would include not just not taking an early bath by pretending to have a heathache etc, but being someone with sufficient English and intelligence to be someone I would be happy to travel around with for say a month, felt able to trust and liked being with as a friend as well as just a sexual partner. Maybe it's me but I find such girls difficult to find in Pattaya, certainly compared with my experience in the Phils and other countries such as say Colombia.
My only other bad deal in Pattaya was a 700B LT agreement I made in a disco. It was early, only about 11pm. We got back to the hotel and she didn't want to take her clothes off and shower immediately.
700 LT, tough in business! :D
JohnnieBravo
02-04-10, 22:35
I third that. Usually in Pattaya I have to give a girl her money and tell her it's time to go, especially with overnighters. Also in Patts I never have to do any hard bargaining, if I have to discuss price at all. The standard is usually upheld. If it is not then I take it the girl really does not want to go with me and I move on.
In BKK it's usually a headache haggling over the price. Then when you get the price right and get to the room they want to try to leave earlier than the agreed upon time, or make excuses like they are hurting.
I always deal with FL. I did a bar girl once in Pattaya, but she came by at 4am, after her shift, so I wouldn't have to pay the bar fine. Beautiful girl and very nice. A little too nice. Turned out to be a starfish, but stayed until I kicked her out the next afternoon. She had the nerve to call me later that day and ask if I wanted her to come by again.
My only other bad deal in Pattaya was a 700B LT agreement I made in a disco. It was early, only about 11pm. We got back to the hotel and she didn't want to take her clothes off and shower immediately. So I sent her away and went back to the disco. Other than those two, all of my Pattaya experiences have been GFE.
I think it's prob. easier for a GFE in Pattaya then in BKK as I have had to ask nicely that they leave the next morning in Pattaya on several occasions. This having been said though actually apparently I have a real GFE from BKK who texts and emails me semi-regularly. I am half waiting for her to hit me up for $$ but she hasn't yet, so who knows maybe she is the real deal.
One thing that I have found that works best for me is to deal with freelancers. I think one has a better end result if you are able to sit down and chat a girl up and develop some rapport. If this does not seem to be happening or you feel uncomfortable one can always move on. Plus neither of you are under any pressure to buy drinks so you can both focus on one another.
LittleBigMan
02-05-10, 00:53
No one has claimed that shes a stunner, but shes young, cute, very pregnant, with a sweet compliant attitude, and has good sexual skills. She really does need money for her baby. Ive engaged her services twice, mainly for the novelty of doing a pregnant girl, and I enjoyed the experience both times. Shes a nice little girl caught in a difficult situation and I felt good about helping to support the little bun in the oven.
I hope she gets a ton of customers from this site.
Treat her nice. She's worth what she asks.
Daddy07,
You never cease to amaze me! You're my hero!
LBM
Mr Enternational
02-05-10, 01:01
I guess this may be a question of what one considers as a good GFE which I think will depend on what is important for a guy. For me it would include not just not taking an early bath by pretending to have a heathache etc, but being someone with sufficient English and intelligence to be someone I would be happy to travel around with for say a month, felt able to trust and liked being with as a friend as well as just a sexual partner.Absolutely. But the only difference between yours and mine is that I would have to say someone I would be happy to travel to Koh Larn with for a day. I would never even consider being with a WG for a month (hardly want to be with a non-pro that long), because they know (because I have been told by them and they have mentioned seeing me in action) as well as I do that I am going to see something else I want the next day. If that was not the case then I would have just stayed married to my wonderful ex-wife.
GregLondon
02-05-10, 07:36
Absolutely. But the only difference between yours and mine is that I would have to say someone I would be happy to travel to Koh Larn with for a day. I would never even consider being with a WG for a month (hardly want to be with a non-pro that long), because they know (because I have been told by them and they have mentioned seeing me in action) as well as I do that I am going to see something else I want the next day. If that was not the case then I would have just stayed married to my wonderful ex-wife.
I hear you on that one. My tactic is to get a bisexual girl or at least one that's happy to have threesomes/let me have short times, then I get the best of both worlds, getting to be real friends with a girl plus sexual novelty.
The Wookie
02-05-10, 08:39
Hi all,
I'm gonna be hitting Pattaya again next month and since this will be my second time around and I will be staying longer then the very first time I was there (1,5 day) I was hoping some of you might help me out. I'm looking for a serious Tai Chi course in Pattaya (gives me something to do during the day). I've already searched for them online and found only one. I want to attend one that is as authentic as possible and would appreciate any info on this.
Thanks,
Wookie
Mr Enternational
02-05-10, 12:40
I hear you on that one. My tactic is to get a bisexual girl or at least one that's happy to have threesomes/let me have short times, then I get the best of both worlds, getting to be real friends with a girl plus sexual novelty.
See that is smart. I had one FL tell me that she wants to come stay with me whenever I am in Thailand, but no problem because I could do all of her friends as well. Maybe I should have jumped on that chance. If I still have her number I better give her a call when I get there next month.
so i took the bus down from ekkamai. here are some tips for you newbies interested in taking the bus. first, plan at least 2.5 hours from the time of departure, depending on traffic. so thinking backwards, if you want to have your face nuzzling cozily between the breasts of an over-eager gogo dancer by, say 10pm, you need an hour for pre-gogo meal, an hour or so for the taxi/bus ride from the station to the hotel, and shower, two hours on the bus down to pattaya, and half an hour to an hour for the bts ride, plus wait between scheduled buses at ekkamai. so that means you should plan to leave your hotel in bkk no later than 5pm or so. i actually usually try to be out the hotel by 4pm at the latest.
the bus sometimes makes detours to drop off individuals in the back country, which is incredibly frustrating. the bus makes a 15 minute detour to drop one person off. phphphp. but just be patient and go with it.
the second tip is don't try to flag a bus down - go to the ticket counter, buy a ticket, and make your way to terminal 1. you can't miss it - it's where the horn dog single males are congregating. this time, as the bus was exiting the terminal, an obvious tourist (he looked italian, but don't ask me how i could tell) steps in front of the bus and tries to flag it down. he obviously thought this was how things are done, as he saw nothing wrong with it. the driver saw him, and simply ignored him. the bus ploughed on, and at the last minute, the frightened tourist lept out of the way with a very puzzled look on his face.
so, when you exit the bts, look for the signs that point you to the bus station. go down the stairs, and when you get to street level, turn around and walk 100m or so the other direction - the terminal is on your left. look for the sign that says "pattaya" and pay the lady. one seat is 113 baht. if you are a portly gent, or an nba player, you might consider buying two seats, since they are a little tight. i am 5'10", 150 pounds, and i find the seats are just a little tight for me.
so i arrived, and grabbed a motocy - a motorbike taxi. there are at least two choices when you get off the bus. the first, perhaps most popular, is the baht bus. you can't miss them - as you exit the bus, there are touts directing you towards these 'buses'. they are not really buses in the traditional sense - they are just pick up trucks with a canopy and seats in the truck bed. the fare is 20baht from the bus terminal, but 10baht if you catch it anywhere in town (i.e., you pay a premium for getting to and from the bus station). the pros of the bb are that it is right there, waiting for you, everytime the bkk bus rolls in; it is pretty cheap; they make a direct route down beach rd, so you are likely to get dropped off somewhere near your hotel. the trick though is to know where to get dropped off, so if you are unsure, tell the driver, and he will stop at the right place and tell you to get off. they are very good about this - they recognize the difficulties of being a newbie.
the cons are that it takes a long time, and often the drop off is not too close to your hotel (unless you are right on beach rd.). i decided to give nova platinum a shot this time, and never having been there, and given its slightly odd location, i opted for the motorbike taxi. obviously, if you have a ton of luggage, this is not the option for you. i had a small duffle with a change of clothes, some toiletries and a boat load of condoms (one can hope, no?), so it was no problem.
i got dropped off, got a room in a jiffy, and up i went. the rooms at this hotel are ok, not particulary special. i would say the lobby and pool are something like 3.5 to 4 star, but the rooms are closer to 2 star. the room i got (which they made a big deal about being a deluxe room) was anything but. it was old and tired, with worn out counter tops, old worn out furniture, and old, worn out decor. but fuck, i am not here for the interior decorating. the walk-in rate is 2200 baht per night (high season), but 1800 discounted from an internet reservation, which i think is probably worth it. in august i stayed here for 1300 baht, but they made clear that is the off-season rate, reservation rate.
shower, shave, and out i go at around 7pm. the walk to walking street is around 10 minutes through the back roads (soi 16). one could take the baht bus from just outside the hotel, and it would drop you 100m from the beginning of walking street, but i opted for the walk. it was the strangest walk ever, too. as i walked down soi 16, i noticed this was an area heavily populated by arabs (and, i guess muslims in general). all the signs were in arabic, there was halal food being advertyised everywhere, and no more than 20m down the street, i could see signs like 'eat my pussy agogo" and "butt fuck while standing bj bar". ok, i embellish on the names, but you get the idea. why is this weird? well, as i walked down the street, surrounded by scantily clad women walking to their gogo/bar jobs and men wearing arab garb, i heard the muslim call to prayers from just behind a metal fence. it baffles me to see super religious people in this supposedly immoral location. (i actually find pattaya to be a deeply religious experience, each and every time, but that's a different story). i mean, i fully understand the need to be here - as bill maher says, we are men, and we just want to get our nut off. so yes, i see that, but when that desire conflicts with the rest of your way of life...i don't know. i'm not criticizing my muslim friends, i'm actually sympathizing - i think it must be a very conflicting experience. and this holds for all the other religious people too, we just can't identify them as obviously as the muslim call to prayers does (how do you tell that the guy next to you eating banana from the gogo girl's pussy is a baptist minister from oklahoma?). enough of the religious commentary.
i grabbed something to eat, had my double espresso from starbucks, and waited for the caffeine to hit the system. i felt the rush beginning, and it was only 9pm. i think 9pm is a good time to begin the crusade. it is happy hour at many gogo bars, and the girls are still getting warmed up. so i hit several bars, this time determined to avoid getting overly beered up.
beach club.
i like beach club - it has a cool vibe to it, even if the girls are not to my taste. they also have cheap draft (60b?), which is a great way to get me in there. they have a series of smallish tables with seats around them and the girls dance on the tables. what makes this place though is the outfits they wear - they all wear this neon green mini skirt, with nothing on under them. they are also wearing these oversized white boots, which make their legs look really skinny. this is why i don't care for the place - i like athletic, muscled legs, not scrawny, skinny bones. nonetheless, the view you get looking up at these girls is great - they sometimes look down at you and smile, which kind of sucks. i prefer when they are turned the other way, and you are looking right up at the undercarriage of a pair of buttocks. mmmmm, taaaaasty. occasionally, when the music changes, the girls move one table over clockwise. this is a great moment, coz you get to see the girls in a long-legged stretch as they reach across the gap to get to the next table.
so i watched for 20 minutes or so, sipping watered down draft beer. no one really caught my fancy. well, that's not true - there were two girls who had the body that i was looking for (not petite, athletic, nice rump), but not the face. being in the pursuit of perfection, and given the early hour, the decision to bail was as easy as they come.
it was now 9:30, and i wanted to catch the angelwitch show at 10pm. half an hour to kill, what shoudl i do? i decided to stay in the neighborhood and go to club misty. this is a crappy establishment, i know from previous experience, but there was this one girl there in may who had the absolutely perfect pair f butt cheeks. they were the stuff of porn mags, i kid you not. the last time i was there, i was eyeing her and was about to make my move when some dirty fuck from the isles of britain swooped in and grabbed her. actually, he was a very well dressed, well groomed, decent english gent, and i think he took her home and sunk those british teeth int0 the most sumptuous butt flesh in pattaya. so i wanted to see if she was still around, sans british teeth, of course.
as i approached the door, i noticed there was another gogo bar next to club misty that i had never seen before - it's called something like 'smiles agogo', or 'always smiling agogo' (help me out anyone?). so there was this cute young thing eating outside the joint, and she sees me approaching and she does a two-clap and says "okay!" usually, i ignore such actions, but for some inexplicable reason, i mimicked her two-clap and shouted "okay!" and headed directly to her. she ditched her food, jumps up and as i approach her she says "oh thank you thank you thank you thank you." with her right hand on my back guiding me into the correct door, she does a reach around with her left hand and grabs my cock (!), and literally leads me into the door by my cock. yah.
as i enter, my train of thought was 'she's leading me by my cock! is that right? umm, this place is a real dump. but hey, she's leading me by my cock.'this is a small club, with old, tired dancers. the selection on display was abysmal, and the selection sitting along the sides was even worse. i don't think i have seen as many stretch marks in one place since a friend of mine, thinking it would be funny, sent me a video clip entitled "shyla stylez boob squeeze.mpg" and when i opened it, it was a clip from "granny gets butt fucked", or something like that. haha, yeah. so if it weren't for this cute young thing yanking little kumbu, i would have done an aboutsie and just walked outta there. but cutie leads me to the completely empty seating area, sits me down, and promptly mounts me and starts to dry hump the hell out of me. as she does this, i slowly begin to become cognizant of some details.
she is young, cute and well proportioned. she seems to have some reallyt nice legs, and her boobs, which are right in my face, point in the right direction (up) and are about the right size for me. her face is really quite attractive - beautiful eyes, and a pert, full set of lips. her cheek bones are high and prominent - just as i like them. she has long well tended hair, and she flicks it like a good stripper should. she is wearing a white school-girl shirt, buttoned half way up, and is wearing some kind of black bustier underneath it. she has short-short jean shorts on, and sockless tennis shoes. in short, she looks like a young, athletic school girl. school girls are not usually my thing, but she was so well proportioned (and not in that stereotypical skinny, childish manner either, much more of a woman's dimensions) that i could not help but admire.
so after 2 minutes of dry humping, the waitress is sent over by the non-amused mama san to make her some money. i order the draft, and the cutie jumps off me to go get it for me. she runs over to the bar and makes the order herself. in the meantime, the old vultures who had been watching this shamless young kid take the only male meat this joint has seen in the last week all descended on me like the vulnerable lion cub that i am. three ladies, were suddenly upon me, one looked like she was 45 years old, the other like she was in her late thirties, and the third looked in her late 20s (although she as so weathered, i would have prefered the thirty-something to her). it was a motley crew if there ever was one. they tried to get my attention, one of them pinching my arm to make me look at her, the other shouting thai words at me (no idea what she was saying), and the third being more coy, and simply making googly eyes with me. i felt distinctly uncomfortable at that point - it was like one of those teenage horror flicks where the zombies are slowly encroaching the circle of light in which our heroine is stranded. so i looked over at cutie getting my beer, desperately hoping she will return quickly. she stood there at the bar, undulating at the music, peeking over at me once in a while. damn, she had a great set of legs. i couldn't quite tell what her bum looked like, as the tight jean shorts seemed to camoflage the real dimensions (denim tends to do that).
so she returns, hands me my drink, and re-mounts me. hump, hump hump. beautiful. she was so aggressive in her humping, i started to laugh. about 30 seconds into this second session, she starts to unbutton her school girl blouse, revealing her push-up bra. i don't mind push-up bras, even though they are essentially a form of false advertising. but they do one good thing - they aggregate all the disparate boob flesh and present it all in one concentrated area for your viewing pleasure. and it turns out, tonight, all that aggregated boob flesh was there for my nuzzling pleasure too. she sticks my face into her boobs and says "you like?"
no chance to answer, as my face was entirely enmeshed in her chest. suddenly, she pulls my face out, and starts to kiss me. i no likey the kissy kissy, especially with swine flu being as prevalent as it seems to be. but fuck me man, you can't turn this down. my hands were everywhere, her lips were everywhere, my cock was bulging. some time passed, maybe 10 minutes, maybe 30 seconds, i can't tell you, but after that time, she pulled away from me, and i suddenly became aware of the dozen or so hags sitting there watching this embarassing scene. oops, heeheehee. but they were literally glaring at us, and this suddenly made my cock wilt toally down to its starting position.
cutie must have sensed this, and she gets off me and starts to hand-rub my flagging erection. as she does this, we finally get some conversation in. she asks me my name, but seems uninterested in anything else (i.e., the typical questions you usually get were never asked, e.g., where you from? how long you stay in pattaya? you working in thailand? etc.). she told me her info: name is mina, age 20yrs, been in pattaya 2 yrs, mama and papa live and work in nana in bkk (hmmmm), will go for lt for 2500, plus 600 bf, but if no want, can do st. this girl, let me tell you, is a multi-tasker. while she was carrying that conversation, her left hand had made its way down to my crotch and was ferreting out my now diminished erection. she eventually found it, tucked off to the right by my leg, and she started rubbing and stroking. i had jeans on, so the actual sensation was minimal, but the thought of this was very cool.
in the meantime, two vultures had arrived and were angling for a lady drink. i thought to myself, wtf? why would i buy these irrelevant human beings squat? what have they done for me...ever? but cutie says to me, buy us three drinks, and then that's it. nothing more. promise. so now i did my calculation. do i want to take this girl tonight? not sure - it's still so early, and being the one-pop wonder, if i take her, that's the deal for tonight. so maybe i should decline. but (and of what a nice butt she seems to have), this kind of chemistry doesn't come along every day, and i could simply not imagine having a bad experience with this little firecracker. so i decided to hedge my bets. as these thoughts are going through my mind, mina senses my hesitation to buy the drinks, and i think this is a face thing - if you can get the clown to splurge on your friends, you take a step up in the social scale. i am all to aware of this, and i have occasionally played the game to get what i want. so she sees me working through the possibilities, and just to help me make my decision, she moves her head down to my crotch, and using her lips and teeth, she starts to grind my cock. again, the sensation was minimal, but the thought of it was great.
needless to say, i agreed to the three lady drinks, not because of the air bj, but on the logic that i would splash out some cash now, then bail and cruise the other joints on walking street. if i find nothing that beats this, i would return.
after the drinks arrived, we drank up, and she asked me if i wanted to take her out. i told her yes, but that i was meeting a friend at 10pm (lie) at angelwitch. so i would meet him and return for her. i told her to wait for me, and the cute little thing agreed in a snap, jumped right off me and gave me absolutely no attitude whatsoever. often, when you give a bullshit story like that, the girls pout or try to change your mind or get you to bf now and then return when you are ready. this carefree attitude was so refreshing, i could totally imagine myself returning to grab her for the night.
paid up (total cost was 555 baht), and as i left, those fucking vultures said to me "give me tip, give me tip" i looked at them completely puzzled, and just walked out. why?????? would i????? give them a tip????
out i walked, and across the street to angelwitch. last time i was there, i totally fell in love with one of the dancers there. her name is oi, and she has the most adorable face ever. she has a dancer's body, albeit slightly bigger boned than most dancers, but she had a really refreshing, care-free smile about her. so i wanted to see this charmer again.
the place was somewhat less crowded than the last time i was there (early may), and the show began a little late (10:15), but it eventually filled out and things were busting like i remember. i basically sat there, enjoyed the beautiful show, watched oi when she was on stage and admired her elegaqnt lines and beautiful smile. but when oi was not on stage, i was thinking of mina. do i got back for her, or not? basically, during the half hour i sat there, i decided to hit some more gogos, and if nothing materializes, mina would be my backup.
so i took off. i had to be careful exiting angelwitch since mina was right across the street and she might see, but as i exited, i saw her looking the other direction, so i scampered like a scared fox. next stop: happy agogo. here too they have 55b draft. the last time i was in here, it weas kind of slow and boring, but this time it was absolutely busting man. they have changed thing sup, totally livened up the atmosphere. i walk in and am directed to a seat at teh bar. i sit down, and i find myself face-to-butt with some absoutely jiggling bum cheeks. the girls on stage are at a height such that as you sit on the bar stool, your face is exactly at butt height, and the fast dance music means they are jiggling those things at 100 miles per hour. something else.
while the atmosphere and set up here is excellent, the girls are not to my taste - too skinny. i was sitting next to a young english dude (with a tatoo on his neck of newcastle united) who had two girls on his arms and a stack of drink tickets the size of the bible. i mean, he was buying drinks like dom deluise popped m&ms (you younger members, look up who dom deluise was). anyway, he had one plain looking girl on his left arm (between me and him), and on the other side was the most gorgeous girl in the joint. she had a models face - eyes that could kill any man, beautiful full lips, and hair that was something else. she had partial corn-rows which erupted into swirling twirls down the side of her face. it was great, just a pleasure to look at. but she was the jordie's girl, so i only peeked across at her once in a while. but what really got me going was when it was her turn to dance. she went into the back, and came out wearing a see through nightie, and when on stage i got to see the full extent of her female magnificence. she had the perfect set of legs, tight, shapely, well muscled, lengthy and sleek. these beauties sprout from a full, round, perfectly proportioned bubble butt, supporting the tiniest of waists. her breasts were natural, and not overly large. i would say this is as close to a perfect body as you get, and couple that with the gorgeous face, dude, this is a woman for the ages. but as i say, the newcastle united supporter had her in his pocket, and who could begrudge him that? after all, his team sucks the almighty suck out of the word suck.
so, not seeing anything else that caught my fancy, i drank up and walked off. next stop: roxy agogo. this is a great place, right next to insomnia disco. it has a cool atmosphere, and they do one of those dirty sex shows (you know, bananas, the neoprene ass-whips, similated lesbian fucking, etc.). the girls are very cute here, and the place just has an overall good vibe (at least from my perspective). i've been told the manager, a british guy, is an asshole to the girls, but he runs a great joint, so i give him props no matter what.
i switched from beer to water at this point, just to save my stamina. a couple of girls made moves at me, but i fended them off as none of them really seemed to show the enthusiasm of mina.
by now it was midnight, and i was thinking about whether i wanted to run the line of gogos, and then hit the discos at 2am and take my chances with the freelancers, or whether i wanted to take a shot with mina. i slowly walked down the street in the direction of the gogo where mina was, thinking through the decision. i was tired a little, and very eager to blow my load. i also thought about the chemistry i had with mina - as i said before, you don't get that everyday, and especially true with girls as attractive as her. so i decided to make my move with mina.
i walked back, and as i approached, i noticed she was not at the entrance anymore. dude, did some horny tourist steal her away from me?? anyway, i get to the entrance, and the girl at the entrance shouts to me "welcooooooome" and i say, "i'm looking for mina" and she says "yes, yes, come in", meaning whatever, just get your ass inside so mama san gives me credit for attracting customers.
i get in, and mina is sitting there on the left, and she jumps up and screams. she flings herself at me, arms around my neck, legs around my waist, and dfk. yeah baby, that's what i'm talking about! almost as quickly, the vultures descend - i feel a series of hands touching me, grabbing me, poking me, and i hear "mister, buy me drink", "hey mister, give me tip". it was absoultely disgusting - was reminded of a bill murray movie called the razor's edge, based on the somerset vaugn book about a man who goes to india seeking enlightenment, and at one point, he is walking through a slum, and thousands of old, indigent women surround him, poking him, asking him for money. this was the same thing, except the old, haggared women were naked.
the waitress grabs me too and says "what you want to drink?" and two women say "drink? buy me drink?" so i say to mina "let's go...quickly". she says, "ok, bar fine 600 baht" i give her the money and off she goes. as i sit there, one of the vultures who i bought a drink for before says to me:
"give me 20 baht tip."
"why?"
"for tip, give me 20 baht."
"why????? there is no reason to give you a tip."
"no, give me tip."
"i'll give mina a tip, not you."
"oh, you give mina tip for me? ok."
"no, no, no...oh forget it."
thankfully, mina got back at that point and off we went. dude, that place sucks big time, and were it not for mina, i would just not go back there.
you guys know, when you leave a gogo bar having just bfed a girl, sometimes she completely changes attitude, right? a warm bubbly girl in the club turns into an ice cube as soon as you get out of that smoke filled room. i've had this happen a couple of times, and i was hoping it would not happen here. to my relief and delight, mina grabs my hand, and starts babbling away about this and that. she was totally cool, happy, smiling, cracking jokes, teasing me, taking my teases with a mix of fake indignation and total wide-mouth laughter. her bare naked enthusiasm for life was just so infectious and delightful, i thought to myself, "damn kumbu, you must have been mother-fucking-theresa in your last life coz this shit ain't right!"
we walk back to the nova platinum (something like a 10-15 minute walk) with not a single break in conversation - no awkward lulls in conversation, nothing weird going on at all. it was as if she and i just were meant to have this night together, and we both knew it.
we get into the hotel, a quick offering to the id gods at the front desk, and up we go. in the elevator, the inside of the door has a burnished bronze finish, so it is reflective and you can see yourself very well. when we got into the elevator and the door closed i caught a glimpse of her legs in the reflection, and took this opportunity to lay the groundwork for the next few hours. i grabbed her, pulled her to me as if to grope/kiss her. but instead i gently turned her around, put my arms around her and pointed out her reflection and said "look at that beautiful, beautiful lady there. isn't she amazing?" i felt her knees weaken, and thought "you sly dog kumbu." so she smiled and said "look at that lovely man." lovely? isn't that a little...chickish? ok, i'll go with it. so i said "oh look, that beautiful lady is going to kiss that lovely man..." and i waited. i'm particularly proud of that improvization - feel free to use it if you like.
the kiss came, but it was short coz we got to my floor.
entering the room, i was opening the door and she pushed me aside and ran inside, like a kid into a toy store. she made a bee line for the tv remote (a very, very common behavioral trait amongst thai gogo dancers, i noticed). i, meawhile, being the clean freak that i am, washed my hands, and came out to see what the deal was.
offered her a drink from the mini bar, and sat down with her. we talked a little, she teased me a little, she poked mini-kumbu a little, just to get the blood pumping, and then she instructed me to shower. she sent some mixed messages - at first it was 'we shower together', and then she said she does not want to shower, so i said i will go first. no biggie.
i come out, and she is completely tucked away in the blanket, pretending to be sleeping. so i sneak up to her and slip my hands under the cover, seeking a soft piece of flesh (any thing really) to grope. so she pretends to be startled, and laughs a ginormous, happy, content laugh. hmm, ok, getting a little weird here.
so we talked for about 20 minutes, which was cool. as we talked, we played around a little. we talked about her being poong pui, which apparently means pot bellied. i asked if i could see, and so she took off her shirt (nice). i looked, and indeed she had some fat around her belly - more like baby fat - a thin layer of soft flesh. shit man, if that is pot bellied i wish all women were poong pui - it was hot as hell. so i grabbed her midsection and sunk my face deep into her belly, giving it a loud, enthusiastic kiss. she laughed. so i took the opportunity to ask where else she was fat, and she said her legs. so naturally, i had to inspect her legs. mmmmm, nice, sexy, sensuous legs. but she had scars all over her knees. i asked how, and she said she ran away from police on her scooter coz she does not have a license. and then she crashed the bike somewhere. crazy.
next on the poong pui tour was her boobies. she thought there was not enough of it, and so i demanded the opportunity to evaluate this slanderous claim. and off came the bra. her breasts were full, very, very firm, and immensely satisfying. she had dark, large nipples, but the crcle around the nipple was relatively small, giving the nipples a very pert look. mmmm, nice. i asked about her bum, and she is eager to remove her jean shorts. she pulls them off, and i have me a looksie. wow, i was not disappointed. it was fleshy, firm, and ridiculously round. it was not a bubble butt, because i don't think the roundness was in all the relevant directions. rather, the butt was round from a profile, but it did not extend sideways, to create that pear shaped look. but it was awesome - i love a fleshy butt.
note that at this point, she had still not showered. we were now maybe 45 minutes into the session, and she was still sweaty and grimy from the bar. it turns out she was just feeling lazy, and i had to coax her into it. so it took about 10 minutes, until finally she says that she will only shower if i come with her. what? that's what was holding you up? my lady, it would be a pleasure.
so we get into the shower, and she focuses on her head region, and i did everything else. i soaped that beauty up good and proper, soaping every little nook, cranny, crack, hole and crevice i could get my grubby little fingers into. it was awesome. i cleaned out her pussy for her, using soap and everything (she seemed surprisingly unconcerned about getting soap into her pussy), and then i ddi the same for her butt hole - i washed that thing like it was about to perform open heart surgery. and when that was all done, i washed her butt hole again, just for good measure, and for personal gratification.
once we were all done, we stood there, water spraying all over us, and our eyes locked. she looked me in the eyes, face without expression, and i did the same. this lasted perhaps 30 seconds (a really long time for expressionless eye-gaze). the hypnotic moment was broken when her body swayed towards me and my erect penis poked right into her belly. she laughed and gently slapped little kumbu. i feigned pain, and in a show of retaliation, i dropped to my knees and stuck my open mouth into her pussy, sticking my tongue around and into that freshly cleaned hole. it lasted no more than 5 seconds before she gasped and pulled me up, but it was such an experience, it was worth sharing it with you guys.
so we get out, we dry each other, and she scampers out and jumps into the bed. when i joined, we played the 'i'm sleepy' game, and i told her that i actually prefer it if she would go to sleep. she was surprised, and told her that what i planned to do to her did not really require her conscious participation. she did not understand, so i showed her. i put my hands all over her, caressing, stroking, squashing, compressing, etc. this is what i enjoy - the foreplay which involves the exploration of her body. she opened up to me very nicely, spreading her legs when needed, turning this way and that. she was somewhat hesitant about the asshole, not really giving it up. she asked me 'you like toot?' i said 'no, i no like toot, i love toot.' she says, 'me no do toot, me do gim.' for those of you who know thai, forgive my transliterations, this is the best i could do. as far as i could tell, toot=ass, gim=pussy. so she made it clear that anal is out of the question, so i went down on her instead. i suckled and stroked for around 20 minutes before she came. it was kind of amusing: during the 20 minutes, she lay relatively still, and occasionally squirm and let out a little whimper at the same time. that was my clue as to where to focus my tongue action. this went on for 20 minutes, with the squirm/whimpering occuring every 3 minutes or so. i was beginning to think that nothing was happening for her, but i was rewaded when there was a series of quick little whimpers, a short set of three or four hip gyrations, and then relaxation, followed by her hand running through my hair. so she had come.
she jumped up quickly, and went straight down on kumbu. it was fucking awesome - she just went straight into a deep throat, no messing around. she took it all, and for someone her size, i was damned impressed. not bragging, but around 7 inches into the back of the throat, that's a great visual gift to me. so she bbbj for a while, then requested a condom (i do a lot of pre-cum, so i don't blame the girls for wanting a condom. i actually prefer a cbj to bbbj, actually, i would prefer everything to be covered, but that's one of my idiosyncrasies. so we did cbj for a while. i tried to get her into a 69, but she told me she was sensitive from having just cum. so this was a way for her to recooperate before the big action.
that action was indeed soon to follow, and it was, as promised, big action. after the cbj got old, she comes up and says to me: you want to fuck me? i love it when i am given obvious questions like that. so i playfully shoved her down onto the bed and rose up, like the pyramids over the desert, and plunged into her.
it was a 20 year old pussy, and it felt like it. i'm sure she's had her share of traffic, but it was a well designed, well maintained gim. we were in missionary at this point, but i really wanted to see what was happening down there. so i sat up and took a gander. she understood this, credit to the young 'un, and she lifted her hips to give me a better view. lovely. i was able to watch little kumbu playing in the playground. "play nice, ok? no bullying!" but kumbu was in a foul mood. he wanted to be the bullyer, and he was not going to take any crap. so i started to thrust a little more forcefully, watching her carefully to detect any sense of pain or objection. nothing, she looked at me and groaned louder. so i upped the tempo some more, and went at it with some more force. looking at her for signs of discomfort...nothing! ok, kumbu, you have the green light, so i dropped the bomb, put the pedal to the metal, pulled out all the stops and power-pumped like human existence depended on me impaling this beautiful little thing. i looked at her, fully expecting her to be wincing...nothing! wow, this girl is either really tolerant, or of a species i have never encountered before. so i asked her: "am i hurting you?" and she says (i don't remember the exact phrasing, but it was something like) "shut up and fuck me!"
ay. i'm sad to say that she defeated me. i did the power pump - treatment reserved only for the stoutest of performers - and she just took it all, and then some. so after 5-6 minutes of this in a couple of variations of the missionary position, she gasps to me:
"i owe you".
"wha??? you owe me for what?"
"no, i...owe...you"
"oh, you on me, ok."
so we switched to cg, and fellas, i tell you, i have never been ridden like this...ever. i felt like i was being fucked, not the one fucking. she got ontop of me and she showed me what power pumping was. she was like a woman possessed - absolutely crazy. truth be told, it was a tad painful, but hell, i wasn't going to stop it. i pondered pulling her out of her crazy mega-fucking, so as to prolong the sex, but decided the time was right for a good, long, hard ejaculation. and so it was that kumbu experienced the orgasm of the month - a long, powerful, spasmadic cum that was fully satisfying and very memorable. when i was done, she kept going for 3 seconds too long (pain), and i had to physically stop her. she was totally out of breath, and i said to her: this is good exercise for you - you do this everyday with me, you will not be poong pui any more. she laughed.
she sat on me for another 5 minutes, sweat dripping down her forehead onto her nose, cracking jokes, teasing me, taking my teases with good humor. she then went to wash up, and i followed when she was done. when i got out of the shower, the tv was on and she was watching music videos. i was exhausted (it was 3am by this point), but she wanted to watch tv and talk. eventually she switched over to a made-for-tv reanactment of helen of troy, maybe something made for the history channel, which bored the crap out of me. but it was apparent to me that she did not know the story, and so she was thoroughly amazed at my awesome ability to predict what would happen next. she just didn't get tired of my predictions working out, and she thought i should work as a tv producer. i hope she never finds out how ubiquitous that story is.
we finally fell asleep. she awoke to her alarm (set at the pre-arranged time of 6am), and off she went. i paid her a total of 2500 baht (so that's lt + tip), which in my mind, was totally earned and worth every single baht.
next day, and here i am sitting at the wave restaurant, and this beautiful diva of a lady comes and sits in front of me. she is well appointed, wearing diva sunglasses, very well proportioned. i'm typing up my isg report, but she is sitting right in front of me, distracting me. here i am looking and wondering how to break the barrier and make my approach. she is obviously fishing, since she is alone, seems to be looking for a pick up. and then i am totally taken to school by this old timer. an older italian guy just walks up to her and says "excuse me, are you alone?" and she says "yes" and he says "may i join you?" and she looks at him, calculating her potential income. after a short pause, she agrees, and the italian cruiser then says "good-uh, because-uh i no like-uh to eat-uh alone-uh". and voila, or should i say, presto, the deal is set. the old guy has his a-game on, man he is smooth. he talks like a charmer, carries the conversation, knows just what to say, and is just a fucking charming little fucker. man i hate him. i see now how i am totally in a different league - he is part of the major leagues, i'm like a triple a minor leaguer.
he charms her, asks her about her food, orders some milky drink, and offers her some. she shows some hesitation, and he drops the line of the year - "please try some - i share *everything*". wow, my man...my itali-an man!
so a few minutes later, italiano over there says he wants to go shopping, does she want to join him. i have never seen a diva move more quickly. before i knew it, they were gone, probably to spend thousands of the italians euros, followed by, in all likelihood, a tepid bout of weak sex.
realizing this, kumbu feels strangely empty. but i thought back to the night with mina, and the night that is to follow, and i felt a sense of hope again. i turned and admired the view; took in a deep breath of air and sighed at my contentment.
Some notes in the margins.
The second tip is don't try to flag a bus down
The funny thing is, if a bus is not full when it's leaving, it may pause on the way out, with a bus steward calling the destination and bundling more people on board. Do they stick the money for those passengers in their pocket? You don't get a ticket when you jump on one of these. Sometimes an inspector boards the bus at some point, watch out ..
The fare is 20Baht from the bus terminal, but 10Baht if you catch it anywhere in town (i.e., you pay a premium for getting to and from the bus station).
Actually I find that they're fine with 10 baht on the way back, if you catch one down at the traffic circle where 2nd road ends. They can take a while to fill up there though.
they make a direct route down beach rd,
.. NOT .. some go down 3rd road and may go down toward 2nd Rd past Hollywood and emerge somewhere near Soi 6, some may continue all the way to Pattaya South Rd before going down to 2nd Rd, and some go straight on to Jomtien .. I've experienced all of those.
The trick though is to know where to get dropped off, so if you are unsure, tell the driver, and he will stop at the right place and tell you to get off. They are very good about this
If your hotel is in any way off whatever they deem their route to be, they'll ask you 100 or 150 or something to go by there, though. Or if you have more luggage than they like to see. Some are great, but some have real bad days.
I heard the muslim call to prayers from just behind a metal fence. It baffles me to see super religious people in this supposedly immoral location.
It doesn't baffle you to see a Buddha shrine in or outside each and every bar?
Ohhhh, Mina .. I've had snatches of that but I don't think one girl who had all of that all night :-)
Did you see any D Cups (giant boobs) in your explorations yet?
Not D-cups per se, but there are some big titted girls to be had. The biggest boobs I have seen in the last couple of weeks was a girl at Spanky in the NEP in Bangkok. She had some pretty large tatas, definitely C-cup, perhaps not quite D. And she wasn't terribly fat either (although not skinny), so it looked pretty good.
In Pattaya, there are one or two large breasted girls at Angelwitch, and I spied a couple at Roxy. I would avoid Happy agogo - the current girls there are not big up top (at least as far as I saw), as well as Naughty, Sea and Supergirl.
Oh, I did see a superb set of tits on a girl at Beachclub - absolutely delightful - full, round, natural, they looked ridiculously juicy. But she was not in the mood for anything - she indicated to me she was feeling queezy, and so she was avoiding any male contact if possible. But hey, their beer is cheap, so you might as well drop in and take a look. Sorry, I didn't get her number, but the tits will pop out at you, so no worries.
It doesn't baffle you to see a Buddha shrine in or outside each and every bar?
Buddhism is somewhat different from the three big monotheistic religions in that it is not as overtly prescriptive about its sexual restrictions. I guess that's too much of a sweeping statement, but I think there is a difference.
But on the other hand, such contradictions are rife throughout everyone's life. Muslims drink, Catholics engage in divorce, Jews eat shrimp, and Buddhist monks have gay sex in the temple. But they can all call themselves pious at the end of the day.
My point simply was that the close proximity of the call to prayers with the gogo bars was just a little surprising. That's all.
Hi all,
I'm gonna be hitting Pattaya again next month and since this will be my second time around and I will be staying longer then the very first time I was there (1,5 day) I was hoping some of you might help me out. I'm looking for a serious Tai Chi course in Pattaya (gives me something to do during the day). I've already searched for them online and found only one. I want to attend one that is as authentic as possible and would appreciate any info on this.
Thanks,
WookieWookie,
When next month? I will be in Pattaya 3/31-4/10. I don't know of a course there. But I do practice myself when I'm there. I teach Chen and Yang styles in the US.
Shaolin
My point simply was that the close proximity of the call to prayers with the gogo bars was just a little surprising.
I agree completely :-) But the wai dancers often give towards the shrine as they mount the stage also has me shaking my head in wonderment.
I agree completely :-) But the wai dancers often give towards the shrine as they mount the stage also has me shaking my head in wonderment.
Ah, I see what you're saying - on the one hand they are dancing around nude, doing the nasty for a living, and on the other hand they are showing what polite, spiritual and socially well-adjusted people they are by giving the wai.
I guess it's basically the same thing as my observation - we are complex creatures that can't be defined along one dimension.
MickTheKick
02-06-10, 14:48
Ah, I see what you're saying. On the one hand they are dancing around nude, doing the nasty for a living, and on the other hand they are showing what polite, spiritual and socially well-adjusted people they are by giving the wai.
I guess it's basically the same thing as my observation. We are complex creatures that can't be defined along one dimension.Nope, they are not 'showing' anything with their wai, they are just superstitious and believe Buddha will then help them making money. Same like this waving bills they made over the remaining goods on display on the market. Or the girls BFed in a bar passing on their luck to remaining girls by some hand gesture.
Agree with your conclusion (how complex we are) though.
You wouldn't believe what mega superstitious bullshit the African bargirls in Europe are into.
you guys appear to be confusing the "shrine to the house spirits". Thais are superstitious and are afraid of the "spirits" The house spirits don't seem to bother with farang, though. :)
Chris Long
02-07-10, 00:31
Does anyone know of any universitys/education centers that are close enough to monger locations yet isolated enough to where the students or school officials would not notice. I have been given the opportunity to set up a summer study abroad program in economics. My employer will pay for me to take two weeks for exploratory set up and then it would be a summer program every year after that. This seems like a great opportunity to combine both work and pleasure while my trip cost and stay would be paid for by my employer. Any information on education centers in Pattaya would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
Chris
LittleBigMan
02-07-10, 00:59
It is very confusing isn't it?
Call it Double standard Hypocrisy? Can't really find a specific explanation or it might be everything!
On Soi 6, you will find many shrines on the roof, prior to the girls going to work they will pray to the shrine to protect them from disease and that they have a profitable day or have their wish come true that they finally find the one. You name it they wish for it!
They Wai when they are in the car driving down the road when they see a shrine along the road. They steal and do bad things and then they shrine to ask for forgiveness. Sounds alot like the other religion when they go to church on Sunday or do their confession and then go back in the real world and do the same thing they just ask for forgiveness.
In Thailand, it seems the most profitable business are the ones down on Naklua selling the shrines and the products that goes along with the shrines. A Thai calendar even has a red mark each week showing when they should buy new flowers etc... for their shrines to pray. Each week you add up the flowers, fruits, soda, incent etc.... for a shrine your'e looking at around a 1,000 baht for a Thai per month? Some familes barely can eat but they take care of that shrine!
It might be funny and even stupid but if you want to get along.. you just go with the flow. Show a girl you can Wai at a shrine and you just might get a better GFE?
LBM
GoodEnough
02-07-10, 03:49
Nope, they are not 'showing' anything with their wai, they are just superstitious and believe Buddha will then help them making money. Same like this waving bills they made over the remaining goods on display on the market. Or the girls BFed in a bar passing on their luck to remaining girls by some hand gesture.
Agree with your conclusion (how complex we are) though.
You wouldn't believe what mega superstitious bullshit the African bargirls in Europe are into.
Let's see, the predominant western superstitions include a virgin getting pregnant with the son of god, the red sea parting at the waving of a stick, god speaking from a burning bush, someone rising from the dead, and so on. The Thais are no more superstitious than we are. They merely have different superstitions.
Ah, I see what you're saying - on the one hand they are dancing around nude, doing the nasty for a living, and on the other hand they are showing what polite, spiritual and socially well-adjusted people they are by giving the wai.
I guess it's basically the same thing as my observation - we are complex creatures that can't be defined along one dimension.We are probably all saying the same thing, but we bring our own Western prejudices in when we talk about 'doing the nasty' for a living. I know many girls aren't proud of what they do, but they are proud that they financially support their family and friends. And that pride certainly outweighs any shame of paid sex, which to some extent is viewed differently in the East and the West in any case.
Cunning Stunt
02-07-10, 06:14
But the wai dancers often give towards the shrine as they mount the stage also has me shaking my head in wonderment.
Why - it doesn't surprise me in the least. After all, they are adherents of the most tolerant religion of them all. I have yet to meet a repressed, guilt ridden Buddhist.
No prizes for guessing the most intolerant.
trying to get the lay of the land I went shopping the first night. I had a list of places to shop, super girls, windmill, boesch, x zone, and anything else that looked interesting. Found the windmill on soi 15 and ventured in for happy hour. Small beer but small price. At the stage 2 girls were playing with a banana. One was doing her version of sculpturing with her mouth. When she was finished it looked a dick. Very talented. She then proceeds to place it in the other girls pussy. Very interesting from a close up point of view. Mashinh her tits were the boys surrounding the stage. One dancer looked like a 7 or 8 and had great tits. After she finished I asked about hher doing the banana, and she said only dancer. Put on the list for later.
Moved down to soi 16 and checked out boesch. It was early so only one or two customers and maybe 10 girls. Moved upstairs to Xzone. five minutes to open mamasan said. Had a good conversation and decided tostay and see the show. About 20 minutes in to the opening 3 dancers start on the second stage behind me. I needed a get a closer look so i went over. New show on the round stage in 5 imutes.
At the round stage the old banana comes out. Now what is different is after the girls use it they offer me a chance to use it and put it where the sun doesn't usually get to. Great fun and the banaana breaks. opps. She puls out the head. Now the dildo comes out. It is covered and I am again offered a chance to place it in her pussy. Of course I felt the show should go on, so I inserted it. For 10 minutes I rubbed her pussy and inserted in her. She was totally enjoying it. Great when you enjoy your work.
Moved on and found a place called something like hoppers. Some cute talent in the place. You might give it a look. Also baccara had some nice talent as well
Walking back to the hotel I located one on second road. Little spinner and part chinese. Off we go and a good time was had by all.
More tomorrow on adventures on soi6.
The Wookie
02-07-10, 11:08
Wookie,
When next month? I will be in Pattaya 3/31-4/10. I don't know of a course there. But I do practice myself when I'm there. I teach Chen and Yang styles in the US.
ShaolinI'll be in BKK first and make it to Pattaya on the 2nd of April. Maybe we could meet up.
Does anyone know of any universitys/education centers that are close enough to monger locations yet isolated enough to where the students or school officials would not notice. I have been given the opportunity to set up a summer study abroad program in economics. My employer will pay for me to take two weeks for exploratory set up and then it would be a summer program every year after that. This seems like a great opportunity to combine both work and pleasure while my trip cost and stay would be paid for by my employer. Any information on education centers in Pattaya would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
ChrisChris- you may want to go to PI instead -- Silliman University in Dumaguete, Negro Island (near Cebu). It is the oldest American University in Asia. Dumaguete does not have the night life -- you have to go to Cebu for that --(but I'm sure you may find a lot of willing coeds). The advantage is they all speak and write English (better than the Thais). To me, it would be a professor's dream job (even a graduate student).
Why - it doesn't surprise me in the least.
Didn't say it suprized me -- but I do think it's wonderful :-)
Second day in Pattaya and i had to visit the famous soi6. Took the little 10 baht taxi up to soi 2. As I got out two ladies from russia also exited. I handed the driver the 10 baht and started to walk away. The girls gave him 20 baht for the 2. He wanted 20 baht each. I hollered back not to give it to him and tis old guy starts screeming for me to leave. I finally got the ladies to uinderstand what I was saying and they walked away with me.
Ok, now to walk back to soi 6. When I arrived I started down the soi toward the water. On my left was my friend you bar with around 10 girls sitting outside. Continuing on I spotted other familar names. At first I couldn't find red spot, but a lady pointed for me to look up. There was the red spot. I walked back to observe the merchandise. from across the street I thought one looked cute and decided to go over for a closer look. Just so happens we made eye contact and she follows me into the bar. After buying a drink an offer was made. 700 short time and 300 for the room. Sounds like a deal to me. Up we go . This girl is pretty new according to her. 6 weeks and counting. Off come the clothes and a body with some nice tits and curves in the right spots. Yes things are looking up.
Off to the shower and back to the room. Daty was offered and she accepted. She seemed to enjoy it and moved her pussy very well. We tried a couple of different positions and enjoyed the contact with each other. After finishing and a shower we got dressed. Being good hearted man with a new chick who was willing to learn I stuffed 200 baht in her bra. Yes, I know don't spoil the market. She seemed utterly surprised and very thankful. I felt it was just appropiate for her . Her name is book and maybe someone who reads this can help educate her more.
In the end I found spot I was looking for
Let's see, the predominant western superstitions include a virgin getting pregnant with the son of god, the red sea parting at the waving of a stick, god speaking from a burning bush, someone rising from the dead, and so on. The Thais are no more superstitious than we are. They merely have different superstitions.
Speak for yourself... I'd bet a lot of us here in this forum at least (most of us maybe?) don't buy into those silly biblical superstitions you mentioned. That said, I did see a billboard once featuring a plate of spaghetti that looked eerily like the face of Jesus. I've also read that virgin birth is theoretically possible, though so unlikely that it may never have occurred in human history.
Seriously, I'd guess that if you tallied up the superstitions and degree of belief in them per capita, you'd probably end up with Thais being considerably more superstitious than 'us'. Think about all the westerners who claim to be agnostic/atheist. Vastly higher % than in Thailand.
Dear Friends,
I would like to present one question for you and I hope as many of you would be willing to answer honestly. This is mainly for the "non-asian" guys among us (European, American, Australian).
Let's assume for a minute that there was a luxury cruise boat, with go-go bars similar to the Angeles bars, with Philippino/Thai/Chinese girls giving the same kind of service as in Angeles/Pattaya/Dongguan. It could travel between European cities, or US cities, so no flight would be needed. This boat would pick-up guests and go on short trips (maybe 3-5 days), with an option to book trips back-to-back (if you like longer vacations).
My questions:
1. Would you guys be interested in using such service instead of actually going to those preferred mongering sites (PI/Thailand/China)?
2. Today, when you have your vacation in those sites, how much do you spend on flights, accommodations, and food, not calculating the spending on the ladies (LD, BF, Tips, Gifts, etc.)?
Your opinion and information would be highly appreciated.
UN LE70
Next day, and here I am sitting at the Wave restaurant, and this beautiful diva of a lady comes and sits in front of me. She is well appointed, wearing diva sunglasses, very well proportioned. I'm typing up my ISG report, but she is sitting right in front of me, distracting me. Here I am looking and wondering how to break the barrier and make my approach. She is obviously fishing, since she is alone, seems to be looking for a pick up. And then I am totally taken to school by this old timer. An older Italian guy just walks up to her and says "Excuse me, are you alone?" and she says "yes" and he says "May I join you?" And she looks at him, calculating her potential income. After a short pause, she agrees, and the Italian cruiser then says "Good-uh, because-uh I no like-uh to eat-uh alone-uh". And voila, or should I say, presto, the deal is set. The old guy has his A-game on, man he is smooth. He talks like a charmer, carries the conversation, knows just what to say, and is just a fucking charming little fucker. Man I hate him. I see now how I am totally in a different league - he is part of the major leagues, I'm like a triple A minor leaguer. .
Great report, I was amused through the entire thing!
LittleBigMan
02-09-10, 00:41
Dear Friends,
I would like to present one question for you and I hope as many of you would be willing to answer honestly. This is mainly for the "non-asian" guys among us (European, American, Australian).
Let's assume for a minute that there was a luxury cruise boat, with go-go bars similar to the Angeles bars, with Philippino/Thai/Chinese girls giving the same kind of service as in Angeles/Pattaya/Dongguan. It could travel between European cities, or US cities, so no flight would be needed. This boat would pick-up guests and go on short trips (maybe 3-5 days), with an option to book trips back-to-back (if you like longer vacations).
My questions:
1. Would you guys be interested in using such service instead of actually going to those preferred mongering sites (PI/Thailand/China)?
2. Today, when you have your vacation in those sites, how much do you spend on flights, accommodations, and food, not calculating the spending on the ladies (LD, BF, Tips, Gifts, etc.)?
Your opinion and information would be highly appreciated.
UN LE70
Oh, instead of a Love Boat this is going to be a Fuck Boat! As long as it doesn't cost me a arm and a leg sign me up! Oh take me off now I see the sign above " Non Asians only "
LBM
Member #3439
02-09-10, 06:45
Just so happens we made eye contact and she follows me into the bar. After buying a drink an offer was made. 700 short time and 300 for the room. Sounds like a deal to me. Up we go . This girl is pretty new according to her. 6 weeks and counting. Off come the clothes and a body with some nice tits and curves in the right spots. Yes things are looking up.
I've been reading the Patts thread quite a bit, but don't see any indication of the level of Thai language skills that are needed to get there from BKK and to monger there.
How much Thai does the typical Pattayan monger need to speak in order to have a good experiences like this at reasonable prices?
Thanks Kumbu for a very enjoyable post. While reading it, I thought I was there with you. And that Mina girl was awesome!
Keep'em coming those great reports!
Cheers.
Just say Pattaya and pay the taxi 1200 baht from BKK. Sawadee Ka will be all that is needed. They know what they are there for and will know enough english so you will understand. Otherwise just point. Enjoy yourself
Primo Bolan
02-09-10, 08:24
Just say Pattaya and pay the taxi 1200 baht from BKK. Sawadee Ka will be all that is needed. They know what they are there for and will know enough english so you will understand. Otherwise just point. Enjoy yourself
Are you gay?
How much Thai does the typical Pattayan monger need to speak in order to have a good experiences like this at reasonable prices?
Absolutely none. Pattaya is more or less international territory when it comes to spending your dollars, euros, etc.
Smile, be nice and clean, and good experiences will be yours.
Far from gay. If you can't figure out what I said and meant ,why say anything. End of conversation
Let me remind you of one important ISG rule:
" Please do not post any messages that harrass, insult, belittle, threaten or flame another member."
Good advice from you - to yourself perhaps.
Cunning Stunt
02-09-10, 12:05
Sawadee Ka will be all that is needed.
It would if you had a pussy instead of a dick! Otherwise khap is the masculine form.
this is a report from two sundays ago - back when my gunners were still in the title race. i'm depressed just thinking about what has happened since, some of which is chronicled in this report here.
sunday morning was spent doing chores - email to work people that i had postponed all week, laundry, writing isg reports, and the like. by lunch time i was itching for some action.
i had tried to make reservations at several places in pattaya, but no luck. nova platinum told me they were all booked up, and a couple of other hotels never responded to my emails. so i decided to wing it. i've done this before - just arrive in pattaya and walk around looking for the best hotel.
i took the bts to ekkamai, bought two bus tickets and waited for the bus at platform 1. as i sat watching the people milling around, i was reminded of just what an interesting place thailand is. there were maybe half a dozen single males like myself skulking around half shamefully and half shamelessly. everyone knew what these people are up to - they are here to take advantage of thailand's youngest and prettiest. intermingled with them are families going down to pattaya for a genuine family vacation, as well as working people going down to service the tourists. and also strewn in there are the occasional working girl. but no one gives anyone any skunk-eye or nasty words - it's all very civil and polite.
so the bus left at 14:40, and i was off the bus on the other end at 16:45. got on a baht bus, which always takes so goddam long. but 20b for a ride into town ain't bad at all. i got off at the kfc and walked the 2 minutes to siam discovery, who were completely booked up. wow. so i walked across to fraser and took a deluxe room, which, as it turns out, is everything but deluxe. the initial quote was for 3200b, and i told them how ridiculous that was. it dropped to 3000, then to 2800, but that was as low as they would go. they threw in free internet (which really should be free anyway) and breakfast (which there was no way i would be awake for anyway). given my eagerness to get on with the festivities, i agreed. next time, however, i think i will not stay at fraser.
the room is small, very dark (not enough lights), shoddily constructed, and they cheap-out at every corner. e.g., they only give you one small bar of soap, so you need to constantly move it from the shower to the sink and back. also, the closet and bathroom doors (sliding doors) don't have any handles to grasp them. the bathroom door has a little hole that has been scraped out with a wood chisel which you can stick your finger into to get a grasp of it. that's just cheap, no two ways about it.
shit, shower, shave and off for dinner. afterwards, i have myself a grande americano at starbucks in preparation for the long night ahead.
i get down to walking street at around 8:45, and man city are already 1 goal up. it it not terribly crowded, but the night is early. the first place i go to is happy-a-gogo. i see two good looking girls, but they both seem to have attitude. one in particular, who had the best ass i have seen in a while, was just sour and cold. i realized that she was with some guy who was buying her drinks, so she was not trying to attract attention from anyone else, lest it cause a scene. so that was my cue, and i paid my 60b for the draught beer, and off i went.
next: roxy. there were maybe 25 girls here, two of which were quite interesting. i took note of their numbers, drank my singha, and left. 65b for the beer, i think.
it was 9:50 by now, almost time for the angelwitch show. so i went in, sat down and watched the pre-show girls dancing. they are the regular gogo girls, dancing for your pleasure, trying to get you to bf them. that lasted 15 minutes, and then on to the truly impressive show. half way through, i was accosted by a pretty little thing called pui, who was wondering why i had not looked at her during the pre-show dancing. i told her there were too many girls to look at just one, although she certainly does deserve lots of attention. anyway, to cut a long story short, she wanted me to bf her, and she wanted me to commit to it now. she asked me to bf her, and then i could go anywhere i wanted and come back and get her when i am ready. i politely refused, and she was a little peeved by that. paid for my beer, 150b i believe.
as i walked out, the arsenal-united game had just begun, and i spotted a gunner fan with his arshavin shirt on standing in candybar nervously watching the match. i joined him for a moment, pumping him up a little. he seemed very nervous, and i (foolishly) told him that we were going to stomp united into the pulpy color that fergie gets when he's angry. he giggled at this, but still seemed nervous. the game was 8 minutes old, and the score was 0-0.
next up, sea gogo. this place kind of sucks - the girls are not particularly hot, and the ambiance is ok. paid my 95b drink and left. as i walked, i saw a television. scoreline was now 0-1 to united. mmmmm, looks like the gunners are going to have to pull off a comeback win. no problem, they've done it before, they can do it again. and with the emirates crowd behind them...nothing is impossible.
next was naughty gogo. at this point, i needed to lay off the beer if i was to last through the night, so i switched to water. this always comes with the obligatory 'why you dink watttuh?' which really annoys me. what of it if i drink water? you're still charging me 95b for a 12b bottle of water, just be happy with the pound of flesh you are taking and be done with it. there were several girls here to my taste. also, i had been with a girl here six months ago several times, and while the girl had moved on, the staff remembered me. that was weird. but it made for some light-hearted banter, which was nice. paid my 100b and left, but thought i might return if nothing better turns up.
as i made my way to airport, i passed candyshop and saw the scoreline - 0-2. what??? and it wasn't 30 minutes into the game?!?! shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit.
into airport i went feeling a little despondent about my gunners. this place is always packed to the gilt, and i am not exactly sure why. the seating situation makes it very hard to get with a girl, and there are so many people, it just feels like a circus. the girls are not particularly hot (they're good, but not unusually so), so i just don't get it. i sat there uncomfortably between a big chinese guy and an old german dude. to be honest, they too seemed bored.
so i paid 100b for my nam pau and off i stumbled. next? where does the kumbu train stop next? well, before i could go anywhere, i needed to check on the great gunner come-back, so dropped into candyshop and found that same arsenal fan there, looking like a truck of elephants had parked on his nuts. i looked at the screen, and oh shit, it was 0-3. what...a...total...buzzkill. i consoled my inconsolable gunner, and moved on. i really needed to get laid.
decided to cross the street to shark a gogo. not worth talking about. ended up buying a girl a drink, but it was a total sympathy buy, and i am ashamed of myself for doing it, so let's just move on. i blame it on the depression from the demolition united put us through. after that, i realized the hour was now getting pretty late. it was 1am, and the crowds were thinning a little. the clubs would close pretty soon, and then all the girls would spill out into the clubs. i was getting pretty tired, and i didn't really want to extend the night into the hours of trolling for a dancing girl. so i needed to pick a girl and move on to the next stage.
went back to happy-a-gogo, but those two cuties i spied earlier in the evening were gone. nothing worth bfing left, so went back to roxy to try to find one of those two pretty things i saw earlier. but alas, they were both gone when i got there. had a great long chat with the mama san (who is quite young and attractive herself), but that was about it. ok, getting a little desperate now, which is not a good state to be in when gogo shopping. i went back to angelwitch looking for pui, but she was long gone. what was left was actually quite enticing, but there was something about the attitude i was getting which put me off. so i paid the rip-off 150b for a water and walked out.
finally, i ended up back in naughty gogo. the staff were again happy to see me, and they chatted and teased me for 15 minutes or so. i spied two good looking girls, one of whom was giving me the 'i'm beautiful, but i still want you' look. she was actually quite pretty - large, sultry eyes, pert little waist, slim but shapely legs,. long straight hair. the only issue i had was that her nipples were very intense. not sure how to describe them - they were not big, they were actually quite petite. but they were very, very...intense. sorry, that's the only word i can find. and against her light, pale skin, i didn't like that, for whatever reason. and what's more, her dancing was slow, bored, lethargic, and she looked really ready to call it quits. i feared that once i got her back to the room she would pull a 'oh me so sleepy' thing, and i was not in the mood to try to convince her to do what i was paying good money for her to do. but nonetheless, overall, she was easily an 8 or 9 in my book, so she was on stand-by. the other girl was quite the opposite to this girl. she was dancing frivolously, skipping from this side of the stage to that, twirling around, hair flying around, head cocking this side and that. and at every turn, she would turn to me and make eye contact. physically she was very different from the sultry one. this one was darker skinned, actually quite dark. she had small angled eyes, making for quite an exotic look. her teeth were prominent, and so she had a large, wide smile - very appealing. her hair was done in a light brown, which was different, and slightly permed. she was wearing a bikini, and so i couldn't tell about her nipples, but her breasts seemed sufficient. more importantly, her ass was very well built. not particularly bulgy or anything, but round, curvy, substantial, enough to get a full handful of meat and give it a good, full, satisfying squeeze. furthermore, her legs were also similarly well shaped. her ankles were a little thick for my taste, but i quibble. overall, her proportions were excellent - a great leg-to-upper body ratio.
the staff were busy plying me for drinks, and so i had to fend myself from this unwanted attention, and this served to delay my decision - which one do i pick. they were both giving me the eye, but in different ways - ms. sultry was looking very expectantly, almost insistently, impatiently even. and ms. dancy was giving me the occasional flirty glances, cute smiles, playful little head-cocks. i thought i knew who i was going for, but before i could make my decision, a really interesting thing happened.
a white guy walks in, well dressed, perhaps in his early 50s, and so still quite spry. he walks past me and sits to my right. the mama san jumps up and attends to him immediately - after all, he ticks all the right boxes: male, white, middle-aged, well-dressed, and arriving after 2am. she points to one girl and yanks her off stage (literally) and throws her at the guy (literally). the girl stumbled, paused to fix her hair, and then smiled at the gent. the gent looked her over, expressionless. he then turned his gaze stageward. the mama san saw this, screamed at the girl next to him to fuck off, and she pointed to the next girl, who happened to be ms. sultry. gentleman looks her over, again expressionless, and minimally nods his head. mama san screams at ms. sultry and yanks her off stage. ms. sultry, too good for this, pulls her hand back, and then daintily steps onto a stool, then down onto the floor. as she lands, she looks my way as if to say 'last chance...' i give her a blank look - my decision had already been made, but this gave me a very easy way to proceed. so she sits next to gentleman.
and this is where it gets interesting. she sits down, and gentleman immediately climbs ontop of her. i mean, he turned to her, moved right ontop of her, and his tongue came out like a moray eel flitting out of its hole, flicking this way and that. she instantly recoiled, just a little, and then her training kicked in and she froze, letting his tongue do whatever was required. there was not a single word exchanged between these two, and gentleman was already using his tongue on her.
truth be told, i was conflicted by the whole thing. one part of me was kind of grossed out by this display, and i realized i had an expression of utter disgust on my face. i looked around, and the staff and other girls were passively watching, as if nothing unusual was happening. but the poor girl was clearly uncomfortable, squirming slightly, leaning back as far as she could. but the large arms of gentleman were wrapped around her, leaving her in the death embrace for sure. it truly was an animal planet moment where the little mollusk is engulfed by the sea slug, powerless and pathetic.
but another part of me was in awe. this dude clearly knew exactly what he was doing. he was testing her out to see if she would recoil, and how much. this, presumably, was a gauge of how pliable she would be once back in the hotel room. a very interesting tactic - place her under the most serious of strain at a late hour and see if she rejects him or not. the girl was borderline, in my opinion, in that she was recoiling, but not rejecting.
i was fascinated...what will happen next? i wish i had some popcorn and a camera. so gentleman now lifts his head and whispers a few words (inaudible), to which ms. sultry nods and agrees, and he says a few more words, and she nods again, and then his head went straight between her breasts and the nuzzling began. oh. my. god.
the staff grew weary of this display, since it was slowing my decision down. so they started to make noise around me to try to bring my attention back to my own dick. but my decision had been made, of course - it was ms. dancy. i look for her, and to my delight, she is dancing not more than 4 feet from me. and she is fanning herself, indicating that she is very hot. how convenient, because i am seated right beneath a fan, so i point to the fan, and for her to join me. she jumps up onto the seat with a whimsical squeal. we got the pleasantries out of the way, and then i noticed her single most attractive feature: her hands. i saw her hands and i did a head-snap 'whatthe??' i gently took one hand in my own, and held it up to the light for a better view. these were...the...most...spectacular hands i have ever seen. i kid you not my friends, she had hands that just made my dick go zzzzzing! i have never had that experience before - legs, yes, bums, sure, breasts, why not? but hands? yawza, these hands are indescribable, but let me try. for those of you not interested, just skip the next paragraph.
the top side of her hands were dark skinned, like the color of fresh espresso (fresh, mind you, not even 60 seconds old). they glistened in the light, the glisten of youth i am sure. her palms were a lighter, tan color, perhaps the color of the crema on the espresso. but the color of her nails were a translucent whitish color. this created a stark contrast between the nails and the dark skin, which for whatever reason created the most lustful vision. and her nails were absolutely immaculately cared for. they were long, lustrous, natural, strong and well shaped. but the true grace of this sculpture were the fingers themselves. long, sexy, elegant fingers like you might imagine an enchantress in a forest might have. they were longer than her palms, and even her pinky was not the short stubby thing it is with most girls, but it was longer than my own index finger. damn. i looked at those hands and just began to cream myself.
so finally, mama san and i agreed to bf (500b, not bad). she said 1500st or 2000lt, and i told her i would negotiate that with the girl directly, to which mama san was most appreciative. i paid up, (bf plus my drink plus dancy's drink came to something like 725b - can't quite remember, i was a little buzzed from all the beer) and off she goes for the shower and change. meanwhile, i turn back to the really interesting story unfolding to my right with gentleman and ms. sultry. i look over, and his hands are on her ass, head still buried in her cleavage. wow, it must have been 10 minutes, and that's all he was doing. and the whole staff were ok with this. he really must bf her now, right? i mean, he couldn't now get up and say 'no thanks' and walk out...could he? i dunno, this gentleman is like no other mortal man i have known, so anything is possible.
one of the other girls does something that pisses off one of the the mama sans, who then screams 'eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeehhhhh!' in the loudest, most god-aweful shriek you can imagine. and instantly gentleman pops his head out of the cleavage and exactly mimics the mama san: 'eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeehhhhh!' i laugh hard and loud at this, and he looks over at me, and joins me in laughter. that was our moment together. if i had a glass of wine right now, i would toast you gentleman: here's to you sir, you and your gigantic gonads.
out pops my girl: dressed like a young teenager - frilly skirt, modern top with some large lettering on it, she looked pretty cool. she offers her hand and i gratefully take it, savoring the feeling of those long lustrous fingers wrapped around mine. we walk out into the still crowded walking street at 2:30am.
i was satisfied, as i had found a delightful piece of isaan chocolate to drown my gunner sorrows in.
we walk back to the hotel, talking as best we could (her english is no good, but we made do). she is such a sweet thing, i can't tell you. we get into the room and do some small talk for about 5 minutes. then she showers, and i do the same. afterwards, we talked for about 20 minutes, me trying to warm her up, she trying to relax. slowly the towel gets loosened from around her breasts, my hands slowly enter inside, caressing this, squeezing that. she reciprocates a little, but seems very shy. she is young - 23, from isaan (where else?), no boyfriend or children (good), and has been in pattaya an indeterminate amount of time (i couldn't pin this down with her bad english). but she clearly wasn't the pushy forthright kind - she did not take the initiative. this is probably a pain in the ass for most of you guys, so please be warned - she requires work. and you may not find the end product worth the work. on another night i might agree, but tonight i enjoyed it.
but i eventually managed to strip her naked and behold her beautiful, chocolaty body. she was quite a sight to behold. i explored every crevasse of hers, every mound, every dimple, every flaw and every landmark.
her breasts, it turns out, are a little larger than i expected - they're not huge at all, but at least a handful, which is good. and they were firm indeed. so i played a while with them, sucked a little, rubbed a lot, squeezed some. it was low-level pleasure, but great to begin with.
i found my way down to daty, which was clean and fresh. we did this for another 30 minutes or so, and then on comes the condom. sex in several positions, finishing in a standing position, with her hanging on to my neck, legs wrapped around my back, me humping her with my hands on her ass for grip. great stuff.
but then when i pulled out, i saw red. no, i wasn't angry, i literally saw red on my dick. wtf? she sees this and is not surprised, and rubs some of it off my dick and runs off to the shower. wait...what?
she never explained this, so i have to assume it was either just the end of her period, or...something else? and she let me do daty on her in that state? doesn't that seem a tad irresponsible to you? yeah, i reaffirmed my opposition to daty, although who am i kidding, i am sure i'll be back at it tomorrow.
anyway, we slept at around 5:30am, and i awoke at 10:30am to find her gazing at my face. yup, like a cute puppy. we kiss and cuddle a little, and then she says 'happy may?' (are you happy?), and i said 'mmmm, you?' and she says 'yes' and buries her head affectionately in my chest. lying there that morning, i felt a special warmth for her, which just about counteracted the hole in my chest from losing to united.
what a cute, special girl. i shall return to pattaya to play with her some more. watch for my next report in which i do return for her, as well as bagging the sweetest ass in all of pattaya.
Suntangh R
02-09-10, 12:14
Dear Friends,
I would like to present one question for you and I hope as many of you would be willing to answer honestly. This is mainly for the "non-asian" guys among us (European, American, Australian)!Hi Uncle 70!
You don't like Asians. Or what? Any affiliations to KKK or such organisations
so i walked across to fraser and took a deluxe room, which, as it turns out, is everything but deluxe. the initial quote was for 3200b, and i told them how ridiculous that was. it dropped to 3000, then to 2800, but that was as low as they would go. they threw in free internet (which really should be free anyway) and breakfast (which there was no way i would be awake for anyway). given my eagerness to get on with the festivities, i agreed. next time, however, i think i will not stay at fraser.
the room is small, very dark (not enough lights), shoddily constructed, and they cheap-out at every corner. e.g., they only give you one small bar of soap, so you need to constantly move it from the shower to the sink and back. also, the closet and bathroom doors (sliding doors) don't have any handles to grasp them. the bathroom door has a little hole that has been scraped out with a wood chisel which you can stick your finger into to get a grasp of it. that's just cheap, no two ways about it.
the place is a total shit hole. i stayed there for one night and would never go back. i booked online at agoda, for about 65usd, it was not worth that, it was barely big enough for me to fit into and my room had a great view of the back alley. then they wanted a 1000baht as a deposit or some crap. then they wanted me to pay for the internet. the room was as kumbu wrote. i had forgoten how bad the place was until i read his report. i went out and found another room the next day. i had to fight to get my 1000 baht back, and then sit around while they sent some slow dude upstairs to check the mini bar. i would never stay there again.
How much Thai does the typical Pattayan monger need to speak in order to have a good experiences like this at reasonable prices?Absolutely zero. In fact better no Thai than bad Thai, though they're used to that too in Pattaya.
Primo Bolan
02-09-10, 16:22
Good advice from you - to yourself perhaps.
Did I break the rules by asking him if he is gay? Is that an insult, or what do you mean?
Did I break the rules by asking him if he is gay? Is that an insult, or what do you mean?
So you are the self-appointed expert on Thai grammar and more interested in being a smart arse than politely pointing out the error.
In this wonderful, politically correct, metrosexual world of course your question was not insulting. Then again, not everybody wants to live in such a utopia and would find that harrassing, insulting and belittling.
Now where's that "ignore" button ....... Ah, there it is. Goodbye.
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Now where's that "ignore" button ....... Ah, there it is. Goodbye.Sonic Bam,
I always knew that you are gay ... real men do not need the "ignore" button :) .
Khop khun, kaah!
Giotto
Primo Bolan
02-09-10, 19:37
-Sawadee ka, take me to Pattaya. Ill have to try that.
-Sawadee ka, take me to Pattaya. Ill have to try that.Very funny! Ha ...... ha ........................ yawn!!!
Giotto
sorry for the non thai speaking attempt. Khap or whatever..
Hi Uncle 70!
You don't like Asians. Or what? Any affiliations to KKK or such organisationsTo all my Asian friends who have miss-interpreted my message, I would like to say that I'm sorry for not fully explaining myself, which I'm about to do now.
I LOVE Asian people and consider you guys to be very lucky, because you have the facilities for having fun so close to your homes. I lived in China for a few years and enjoyed the available services whenever I could. I really have nothing against you guys. Actually I envy you.
My idea was to somehow provide the same services around Europe, US, or Australia, where they are not available. I was considering the money needed for the flight to Asia, plus the accommodations and food. I think it's possible to provide higher level within a cruise ship, for the same money. Of course the calculation only works for "short" trips (maybe up to 7 days), as for longer stays the flight cost becomes negligible.
The reason I was asking only the "Non-Asian" guys is because it would make absolutely no sense for Asian guys to fly to Europe and take the cruise. This for sure would be a waste of money.
Sorry again if I accidentally hurt anyone,
UN LE70
The reason I was asking only the "Non-Asian" guys is because it would make absolutely no sense for Asian guys to fly to Europe and take the cruise. This for
UN LE70
That's exactly how I interpreted your message - it was not an ethnic exclusion (that makes no sense for a businessman like yourself), but more a geographical one.
the night was primed for success. my gunners were going to eek out a win against chelski and their degenerate captain, and i was going to score big time with a superb cutie from walking street. at least that was the plan.
the night started well enough...got to ws around 8pm, which is the earliest i have ever arrived. and truth be told, i think that's a tad too early. some bars were still closed, and the others were quite slow. first stop was baccara. i had been here the night before, enjoyed the large atmosphere, but didn't see any girls yesterday to my liking. i thought my luck might turn. sadly, the girls were quite ordinary. the atmosphere was still pretty good - large open bar, large comfortable seats lounge chairs at the bar's edge, which is a nice touch). i saw a couple of girls who were just about worth looking at, but certainly not bf worthy. i drank my draught, enjoying the lack of aggravation from pushy dancers or mama sans. but then one of the dancers started to scream. the would let out these periodic screeches which were supposed to indicate excitement (some doosh was tossing ping pong balls). but even later, when no doosh was to be found, the girl continued to let out the annoying screeches, thinking it drew positive attention to her. finally, that just was enough for me and i left.
next stop was airport. same story - ok girls, raunchy crowded atmosphere, but not to my liking. next was baby dolls - i haven't been in here for about a year, and i kinda liked it. the girls were a little to my taste - long legs, sexy woman-type, not the child-molester fodder in most of the other bars. but i had inclinations towards going back to roxy to try to get one of the three beauties that i had primed the night before. so i pulled the check from the can and as i did this, the waitress scurried over at the very same time that i caught sight of a magnificent set of legs in the mirror. i was temporarily confused by the sudden sensory overload as well as the mirror-effect, so i paid up and then set about trying to figure out what my eyes had found a moment ago.
so she was on the other side of the bar, on one of those raised solo-stages. holding a set of hanging chains and doing her little dance number. but what r
i was about ready got me was that there was a soft spot light aimed right at her legs, and no where else. so all i could see, literally, were her absolutely superb legs. long, toned, shapely and looking just juicy as hell. damned, they were good. the change then arrived, and i lingered a few moments, looking at her across the room. our eyes finally met, and she kept my engagement for perhaps 10 seconds, and then i broke away. i got up and walked towards her and the door, and as i approached, she gave me one of those one-eye-brow raises, like 'well stud? whatchoo got?' i paused, took note of her number, smiled at her, and ducked out through the curtain. must return here before i go back states side.
next was up the escalator to peppermint. i found no girls to my liking here, although i did see two big-breasted girls (d-cups, that's for you). one seemed chubby, but the other was big-boned but slim, with large tatas. but nothing else stood out, so i paid and bailed.
it was now 9:45pm, and i wanted to try to get laid before the arsenal game, so i needed to get cracking. so i made it over to roxy.
i walk in, and two of the three girls from yesterday were there. one of them recognizes me and giggles, wai. i smile, waive. the other girl, the one with the magnificant ass and legs, looked confused and asked her friend who i was. hmm, not a good sign.
drink arrives, i am seated right in front of where my two girls are dancing, and so we can't help but enjoy the somewhat awkward looksies.
then the girl who recognized me gets picked up by a japanese guy, and off she trots to change. ok, one down, one to go. i switch on the tractor beam look and direct it towards the superb ass and legs. at first, she is completely unaware of my presence. so i just take the opportunity to (i) make sure there is no one else to my liking in the bar (which there wasn't), and (ii) give her a thorough look-over.
so she has long dark hair (of course) and vbery light skin. her eyes are slightly deep-set, and very caring...intelligent too. her lips are full abnd perky, and her nose is, well, just a tad too large to be honest. it is a very prominent nose, raised up quite fully outof her head, and very un-thai to be honest. but i could live with this nose, considering everything else this girl had going for her. her breasts are covered, but that doesn't matter one bit. she has legs that are just to die for - shapely, perfectly proportioned, you know, the kind of legs you see on the skywalk in bangkok and wonder how thai women all have such great legs. and of course, the bum. oh my, the bum. what can i say, except holy cow. this is, in my opinion, the best ass in all of pattaya, perhaps of all the girls i have seen in both bangkok and pattaya. yes, it is that spectacular - great, round, fleshy, symmetrical, yadi yadi yada.
ok, so i am giving her the 'come hither' look, and she doesn't even see me. but i persevere. eventually she sees me looking, and then the flirting begins. she looks at me for a moment, then away to her left. then back at me, and then off to her right. she's just checking to see how consistent my gaze is - am i really interested? or was the eye-lock just a passing coincidence? she looks several times while she is doing her little dance on the stage. meanwhile, i am totaly engrossed in her physical features. i notice that she has cute, well-tended hands. she seems to have a flat chest, but i can't really tell because it is covered up. i notice that her knees, of all things, are turning me on like never before. i notice that her legs seems very, very shapely, although quite soft. hmm, i wonder what the fat-to-muscle ratio in those legs is...
suddenly she bolts. she moves off to her right, weaving through the line of dancers on the stage and exits stage left. she goes around the other side of the stage (not my side) to the bathroom, almost purposefully avoiding my gaze. but she walked with such purpose and without meeting anyone's eye gaze that i had a feeling i would have her in my lap pretty soon.
5 minutes passed, and i looked rather disinterestingly at the residue on the stage. and then finally she emerges from the back, and walks in my direction. she was walking past me, and not to me, so i shifted in my seat, which caught her attention, and i offered out my hand to help her up onto the raised seat. she smiled and took my hand. as i grasped her hand, i felt the skin softly caress my hand, and as i tightened my grip on her fingers and felt her tighten her grip on mine, i knew this girl was coming with me tonight.
she sat down, and we began the ritual.
her: what your name?
me: kumbu (not my real name, obviously). what's yours?
her: om.
me: om?
her: om.
me: om. om. om.
her: yes, om.
me: was that om (rising intonation) or om (falling intonation)?
her: om (rising intonation).
me: om (rising intonation)?
her: yes, om (rising intonation).
me: ah.
<awkward silence>
me: where are you from om (high intonation)...i mean, om (rising intonation)?
om: umm...me no speak engis. solly, one mo time?
me: oh crap, this is going to need extra work. where...are...you...from?
om: oh, udon thanii
me: ah, udon thanii.
om: you know?!
me: er - no.
anyway, the english situation was exceptionally bad. she could barely understand a word i said, and i couldn't get much out of her in terms of information. ordinarily, that would be a total deal breaker, but damn, as i spoke with her, my hand kept brushing against her thigh, and shit it was fine. i am not the typical groper, by the way. i don't go in there and grab every tit and ass i can. instead, i play it cool, and try to figure out whether we will click using other more subtle methods. so the thigh-brush was as much contact as i got at the beginning, and it was driving me nuts.
so we struggled to talk for 10 minutes, no mama san trying to sell her off as soon as possible. i bought her a drink, which she did not ask for but appreciated greatly. i then bought her another drink, as i tried to figure out whether it would be a crash-and-burn if i took her home, or whether it would work out. i was leaning toward the latter. while the communication barrier was immense, we still had some pretty good chemistry. i was able to crack a couple of jokes which did not require english, and she laughed in the most delightful manner. she grabbed my bicep, squeezed a little, then almost surprised, she squeezed a lot more. not sure if this is a practised routine to make all guys feel like they are surprisingly muscular, but it worked on me.
i began to touch her knees a little, then her mid-thigh, then her calves (not sure how i pulled that off, but it was groovy). eventually a friend of hers approaches and tries to settle the deal. i tell her that i will decide on a bf with the girl directly, but thanks for trying to facilitate.
eventually i ask her if she wants to go with me, and she smiles and says 'sure.' ok, sure means yes, right? right.
so she scampers off to some mild teasing from the girls on stage, and returns 5 minutes later wearing a frilly white dress which made her look like a beautiful country maiden. white? really?
so she takes my hand and we walk out into the crazy circus of walking street. as we walked back to the hotel, i discovered a couple of things, first, she was far smaller than i thought. she stood maybe 5'1" or so, which is a lot slighter than i expected or am used to. but she is so well proportioned, i failed to even notice her height in the bar. oh well, i'll have to see if the suv fits in her garage. the second thing was that she was extremely attuned to me. that is, as we walked, she kept touching me, switching hands, using the other hand to rub the outside of my hand, or the crook of my elbow. it made me think that this was her way of mating with me - you know, from animal planet, when the female begins the ritual of coupling by grooming, touching, rubbing, etc. well, it began on the cobbles on walking street. third, as we had to occasionally walk one behind the other to avoid being crushed by a speeding motocy, i looked down at her legs and just marveled. they are really, really phenomenal legs, my friends. she could easily be a professional leg model - perfectly shaped calves with milky smooth skin, toned and perfectly proportioned. i am totally a leg-man, and so i was just dripping wet with anticipation all the way back to the hotel. fourth, i noticed that it was around 10:45, so my gunners had not even started to rip into chelsea yet. the plans i had for this cute little bum was so extensive that it seems i would miss the game. oh well, i am sure they can cope without me.
she was hungry a little, but rather than demanding a meal, she said we should just drop by a 7-11, which we did and she grabbed some sausage and condiments, a pack of milk (?) and off we went - easy as pie. that's nice.
we got into the hotel and tried to chat over her meal. the chatting had gotten easier, but it was still a struggle. but eventually she showers, and then me, and then the fun began.
the fun consisted of some general vague pecking around the face, along with some gingerly petting and caressing. she was quite stand-off-ish, not in an angry way, but more in a starfish way. it seemd like she was just uncomfortable with the whole situation. ok kumbu, time for you to work your magic. so the pecking went slowly, and i chatted with her in pseudo-thai as best i could. the use of a few words of thai really made her feel more confortable, and soon she started to babble in thai, to which i mindlessly agreed and nodded, for fear of breaking her slowly elevating mood.
cutting a long story short, all of this warming-up culminated in her climbing ontop of me and giving me a deep, warm, embracing, open kiss. it was somewhat unexpected, but this signaled that i had managed to pry open this delicate little petal and the nectar was inside waiting for me to plunder. so plunder i did.
her breasts are indeed small, but i suckled them for a good 10 minutes. my hands found their way down her legs all the way to her ankles, and i just caressed her body, up and down, and back again. i ravaged her with my mouth and hands, dick safely kept under the towel around my waist. i was trying to warm her up, or rather, wet her up, before i unsheath my sword. she began to respond, writhing a little, breath gasping ever so slightly. as she moved her body from left to right, i took that opportunity to slip my hand beneath her and get my first, most grateful grab of that ass. ooooooh, it did not disappoint one bit. it was soft yet firm; full and extremely pleasing. i could not help but to let out a deep, appreciative moan as my hands sunk into that delactable flesh.
anyway, we kept at the body kissing. i never offered daty, nor did she offer it. the reason is because around 10 minutes into the heavy petting, she jumped up and said she had to [CodeWord134] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134). i heard her peeing in the bathoroom (she seemed to have a bladder the size of a horse and a [CodeWord134] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134) stream to match - damn), and that just put the kaibash on the daty for the evening. but i enjoyed everything else about our time together.
eventually the body kissing led to my hand fingering her pussy, which was remarkably wet. that made me feel pretty good about myself - that i had gotten this remarkably beautiful woman all hot and aroused. it doesn't always happen, and so when it does, it is satisfying. we kissed as i fingered her, and she seemed to enjoy that combo a great deal.
so now it came time to see if the geometry was ok. her small body frame worried me a little. little kumbu is just a tad large for these small asian girls, hence i prefer the larger bodied girls. but i was going to give it a shot anyway. as i slipped the condom on, she says something in thai which could only have been something to the effect of 'how the fuck do you walk around all day with that thing between your legs?"
anyway, she spread her legs, and i gently inserted. surprisingly, it went right in - she was not tight at all. for a 25 year old, she was remarkably loose down there. hmm. i actually prefer that, since it allows me to fuck as long as i want, so giddy up.
we went at it for a really long time. a really long time - i was drenched in sweat by the time i finished, and i think she came two or three times. it was ridiculous. i think this nightly-sex-for-three-weeks-in-a-row thing is what helps me with the staying power. anyway, it was good; it was satisfying, and it will be repeated again in the near future.
so we showered seperately, and then into bed and she fell asleep with her head in the crook of my arm.
in the morning, i had to high tail it outta there to get back to bkk for work, so no time for morning sex (although she did offer). kissed her good bye and she kept saying that next time i come back i have to visit her at roxy. yes, i think the 2000baht she got has something to do with that.
so in sum, i think the most beautiful ass in pattaya is well worth a shag, although it is a lot of work given her english problems. but i definitely intend to return, since i think a repeat visit will be far easier. and that ass ain't gonna lose any of its luster over the next few days either.
when she left in the morning, the first thing i did was to log on and check the score for the game the previous night. behold the end of our title aspirations. and then the depression began.
Suntangh R
02-11-10, 12:13
The night was primed for success. My Gunners were going to eek out a win against Chelski and their degenerate captain, and I was going to score big time with a superb cutie from Walking Street. At least that was the plan.I like the style of your prose. Enjoyed reading it!
LittleBigMan
02-11-10, 19:35
To all my Asian friends who have miss-interpreted my message, I would like to say that I'm sorry for not fully explaining myself, which I'm about to do now.
I LOVE Asian people and consider you guys to be very lucky, because you have the facilities for having fun so close to your homes. I lived in China for a few years and enjoyed the available services whenever I could. I really have nothing against you guys. Actually I envy you.
My idea was to somehow provide the same services around Europe, US, or Australia, where they are not available. I was considering the money needed for the flight to Asia, plus the accommodations and food. I think it's possible to provide higher level within a cruise ship, for the same money. Of course the calculation only works for "short" trips (maybe up to 7 days), as for longer stays the flight cost becomes negligible.
The reason I was asking only the "Non-Asian" guys is because it would make absolutely no sense for Asian guys to fly to Europe and take the cruise. This for sure would be a waste of money.
Sorry again if I accidentally hurt anyone,
UN LE70
Thanks for the clarification and I didn't mean to open a can of worms for you in my own response. But here is some food for thought.
Asian aren't exclusively in China or Asia... there are tons of Asians living in the continents you mentioned in your response and I think you would be very surprise if you started this venture how many might sign up. On the surface a fuck boat cruise sounds very nice since when it comes to the little head doing the thinking the objective and results are the same. We don't think any different than white folks, certainly I don't.
LBM, put me back on the list....
Primo Bolan
02-11-10, 20:55
I like your reports.
PB
Lordberners
02-12-10, 14:04
I visited the three Sabai Soapy massage places at Second Road near the Big see in North Pattaya. The lineups at Sabailand and Sabai Room I wasn't very impressed with. Not bad looking but too old and looking a bit too 'professional'. Then I went to Sabai Dee, which is the biggest one and the furthest one north opposite the mall.
At Sabai Dee they have a second seating area for I guess the higher-end girls. I don't know if they're called 'sideliners' or not, but the regular window has girls for 1, 800, while in this second seating area they're 2, 000. There were only around half a dozen girls there, but a couple of them were young and cute enough to be tempting.
The girl I chose was I think she said 22, and slim and cute, but with not so good teeth. She was friendly, and flexible and open about my unusual preferences. I like to be a bit submissive or humiliated a bit by the girl. She seemed to be happy when I explained a bit and let her know that I wouldn't be expecting intercourse.
She didn't allow any blow job or DATY, but she allowed me to kiss and suck her feet, and wasn't shocked when I asked her to do a few kinky things. She even seemed to enjoy it. I guess its a bit different than the run of the mill, but I always wonder how many guys are into that type of thing. For all I know, maybe she's seen it all before.
She stood over me and rubbed her feet all over my face, let me suck her toes, and sat on my neck as I lay on my back, to kind of cut off my air. While she sat there giggling at me, she reached back and used her long nails on my nipples, while I masturbated. She also slapped me a few times at my request but she didn't seem to like that. After I came she cleaned me up and I gave her a 300 baht tip. (by the way at this soapy you pay the 2, 000 baht fee before going upstairs with the girl).
Anyway I think that guys who are into what I'm into might find it at these soapies. I wonder if any other guys have recommendations of places to find this kind of girl in Pattaya. I don't want the mistress type, I just want to be treated like a slave by a very cute fresh looking girl, preferably 18-23 or so.
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I visited the three Sabai Soapy massage places at Second Road near the Big see in North Pattaya. The lineups at Sabailand and Sabai Room I wasn't very impressed with. Not bad looking but too old and looking a bit too 'professional'. Then I went to Sabai Dee, which is the biggest one and the furthest one north opposite the mall.
At Sabai Dee they have a second seating area for I guess the higher-end girls. I don't know if they're called 'sideliners' or not, but the regular window has girls for 1, 800, while in this second seating area they're 2, 000. There were only around half a dozen girls there, but a couple of them were young and cute enough to be tempting.
The girl I chose was I think she said 22, and slim and cute, but with not so good teeth. She was friendly, and flexible and open about my unusual preferences. I like to be a bit submissive or humiliated a bit by the girl. She seemed to be happy when I explained a bit and let her know that I wouldn't be expecting intercourse.
She didn't allow any blow job or DATY, but she allowed me to kiss and suck her feet, and wasn't shocked when I asked her to do a few kinky things. She even seemed to enjoy it. I guess its a bit different than the run of the mill, but I always wonder how many guys are into that type of thing. For all I know, maybe she's seen it all before.
She stood over me and rubbed her feet all over my face, let me suck her toes, and sat on my neck as I lay on my back, to kind of cut off my air. While she sat there giggling at me, she reached back and used her long nails on my nipples, while I masturbated. She also slapped me a few times at my request but she didn't seem to like that. After I came she cleaned me up and I gave her a 300 baht tip. (by the way at this soapy you pay the 2, 000 baht fee before going upstairs with the girl).
Anyway I think that guys who are into what I'm into might find it at these soapies. I wonder if any other guys have recommendations of places to find this kind of girl in Pattaya. I don't want the mistress type, I just want to be treated like a slave by a very cute fresh looking girl, preferably 18-23 or so.
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I intend to visit Pattaya fron April 1 to 4 th(my 4 th visit but then never during good Friday easter time.April 2nd happens to be good Friday).
Is it a foolish decision? Do the chicas take mass leave during this time?
Will appreciate the pundits advise.
Purayil
Talking of Sabai Soapies, I was there last week. I agree with Lordberners, S. Room and S. Land not very good, S. Dee far better: wider choice (although still poor compared to Bangkok or to Pattaya itself 10 years ago) and competent papasan. I ended up with a beauty from the Cambodian border region: quite young for a soapy (20 year old) and in my eyes a very, very nice girl. Perfect body, no signs, no stretches, no tattoos, no plastic anywhere. Service was ok, she was not very experienced but put a lot of effort. Her name is Bee, treat her well if you meet her, she is very sweet. I tip her big.
Gogo bars: well I was deeply disappointed by Boesche. Was there three times, never seen a girl I like, very few customers, fat ladies, bored waitresses. Now what happened there? It's been my favourite venue for years! Anybody knows something about it?
Superbaby ok as usual, supergirl so-so like all other gogo I visited, whose names are now a blur. Only Happy I do remember, got three ladies (not together.) and noone disappointed me. Beautiful and very active, all of them. If I had more time I would have taken another couple, precisely n. 91 and n. 4 whose nick is "Icecream" and yes I would have licked her from head to toe.
A new trend I noticed: people are going to gogo bars far earlier than before. In the past (I had holidays here for the last 21 years) I started my gogo evening at 10 or 11 and ended whenever I found anybody worth a commitment. So I went on until 2 or 3 am sometimes, and bars were always full of girls. If you visited a gogo before 9 you might have found a few girls and a couple of early birds having a drink before dinner. Now, if you go after 9 you may find that all best talents are already taken. Customers seem to have dinner at 6 and visit bars at 7. 30 or 8. Ridiculous! Don't know if this has something to do with the change in tourists (before: French, Italians, Germans, Aussies. Now: Russians, Britons, Chinese) or else, but it completely changes your schedule if you plan to visit gogo bars to find company.
Closing time is now 4 am and nudity is widespread. I would do without it, but once a bar opened the floodgates it was nude everywhere.
Cannot report on beer bars or beach road, I just do not like them.
And now motorbikes: one important warning if you plan to rent a bike: police stopped me twice. I was driving slowly, alone, with helmet, lights on, on my left. First time they check my papers (rental agreement and copy of passport) and let me go. Second time they ask me to open under the seat, to test the indicators, all ok. Then they ask me driving license and they want the original! No copy! A guy that was also stopped said there is a new rule: you should get a local license to drive even a small automatic scooter like the one I had, or else pay 400 baht fine. I can guarantee they were NOT looking for money because they stopped at least 20 people including locals, and all was done very openly, on Beach Road at 5 pm I even tried to pay on the spot but policeman refused and was already writing a ticket: with that ticket I should have gone walking (they keep the bike) to soi 9 (police station) stay maybe 2 hours in a queue, pay and come back. So I started yelling that I had enough, that police should stop crazy drivers with no helmet, drunken idiots in wrong ways, not regular tourists that follow the rules like I do blah blah. The captain approaches and I keep talking while thinking "in 2 minutes I will be free with no ticket, or in jail". Captain listens, I repeat with a slightly lower tone that I always follow the rules and that by harassing tourists they will only see tourism disappear. Captain says "ok no ticket now but next time original ok? " and let me go. I do not know if this is a new law or not. I was never asked to show original driving license in 10 years. If anybody has more info please report.
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Dear Friends,
I would like to present one question for you and I hope as many of you would be willing to answer honestly. This is mainly for the "non-asian" guys among us (European, American, Australian).
Let's assume for a minute that there was a luxury cruise boat, with go-go bars similar to the Angeles bars, with Philippino/Thai/Chinese girls giving the same kind of service as in Angeles/Pattaya/Dongguan. It could travel between European cities, or US cities, so no flight would be needed. This boat would pick-up guests and go on short trips (maybe 3-5 days), with an option to book trips back-to-back (if you like longer vacations).
My questions:
1. Would you guys be interested in using such service instead of actually going to those preferred mongering sites (PI/Thailand/China)?
2. Today, when you have your vacation in those sites, how much do you spend on flights, accommodations, and food, not calculating the spending on the ladies (LD, BF, Tips, Gifts, etc.)?
Your opinion and information would be highly appreciated.
UN LE70
Great idea in concept but the execution would have so many legal issues I can't even begin to fathom them. Some one tried doing something similar off of NYC back during the Guliani years and lasted about a nanosecond. It got horrible publicity in the papers and then they started taking pictures of the guys going on board. They shut down quickly thereafter. How are you planning to get the girls from Asia - smuggle them in? The cost of getting to your boat and the price of the stay + the price of the girls would have to exceed simply going to Pattaya by magnitudes. My guess is girls are not going to go for 1000 baht - more likely Euro prices of 200 Euros. Plus every legal agency in the world would be after the ***** Boat. I can see CNN already doing an expose. My guess is that the average guy in P. spends about $50 a day on a hotel and $100 a day on girls/beer and $30 on food. Say $200. If you could beat that price and not get arrested, go for it. My guess is that you would have to market this to a much more upscale niche group than guys who go to Pattay and who can afford to spend a lot of dollars - but my guess is these people would be much too discrete to want to get on a boat full of other mongers for the world to see.
A new trend I noticed: people are going to gogo bars far earlier than before. In the past (I had holidays here for the last 21 years) I started my gogo evening at 10 or 11 and ended whenever I found anybody worth a commitment. So I went on until 2 or 3 am sometimes, and bars were always full of girls. If you visited a gogo before 9 you might have found a few girls and a couple of early birds having a drink before dinner. Now, if you go after 9 you may find that all best talents are already taken.
I noticed this too. I asked a girl who works out of Super Girl why this is, and she told me unequivocally that it is the Japanese and Korean tourists who are responsible. Their idea is to get in early, grab all the fresh talent for ST, run them back to the hotel for a 2 hour shag, then drink with buddies for a couple of hours, and then if the little samurai awakens, they go back to the gogo bars and pick through the left-overs.
Mr Enternational
02-14-10, 08:25
Great idea in concept but the execution would have so many legal issues I can't even begin to fathom them. How are you planning to get the girls from Asia - smuggle them in? The cost of getting to your boat and the price of the stay + the price of the girls would have to exceed simply going to Pattaya by magnitudes. My guess is girls are not going to go for 1000 baht - more likely Euro prices of 200 Euros.
Don't forget the cost of the crew, fuel, food, etc. Good intentions, bad idea.
My guess is that the average guy in P. spends about $50 a day on a hotel and $100 a day on girls/beer and $30 on food. Say $200.
If I spent that much I would be broke. My figures are more like $30 hotel, $60 girls/massages, $12 food and $6 scooter. $108....but I am actively looking for one of those $20/day apartments to cut costs, khrap!
Mr Enternational
02-14-10, 08:45
And now motorbikes: one important warning if you plan to rent a bike: police stopped me twice. I was driving slowly, alone, with helmet, lights on, on my left. First time they check my papers (rental agreement and copy of passport) and let me go. Second time they ask me to open under the seat, to test the indicators, all ok. Then they ask me driving license and they want the original! No copy! A guy that was also stopped said there is a new rule: you should get a local license to drive even a small automatic scooter like the one I had, or else pay 400 baht fine. I can guarantee they were NOT looking for money because they stopped at least 20 people including locals, and all was done very openly, on Beach Road at 5 pm I even tried to pay on the spot but policeman refused and was already writing a ticket: with that ticket I should have gone walking (they keep the bike) to soi 9 (police station) I do not know if this is a new law or not. I was never asked to show original driving license in 10 years. If anybody has more info please report. I got 2 tickets in July right in front of the police station on BR. He said he pulled me over for going the wrong way on Soi 8, which there was no way he could have seen from in front of the police station (unless someone radioed him). Then I did not have my license with me. There is a chart on the wall in the police station lobby with the fines. I should have had to pay 400 for each violation, but for some reason they only made me pay 600 together. I guess you get a discount when you commit more than one violation. I tried to pay him off too but it did not work. I know one thing, now I always follow the traffic rules and I always have my license with me. I don't know about any local license. Can someone who is a local please chime in on that?
I intend to visit Pattaya fron April 1 to 4 th(my 4 th visit but then never during good Friday easter time.April 2nd happens to be good Friday).
Is it a foolish decision? Do the chicas take mass leave during this time?No, but some might say this is a foolish question... Thailand is a buddhist country and the vast majority of girls will not even have heard of Easter, let alone take the day off to go to church and eat chocolate eggs.
Member #3428
02-14-10, 09:50
Thailand is a buddhist country and the vast majority of girls will not even have heard of Easter, let alone take the day off to go to church and eat chocolate eggs.
I agree with you of course... but my girls never seem to miss a chance to get chocolate ;) They sure know all about chocolate today (Valentines), and Easter, and Xmas, and New Year Gifts, and B Day Gifts, etc... the List is endless...
Pretty soon Hallmark will issue a "Glad you're my wh@re" card ;)
but I am actively looking for one of those $20/day apartments to cut costs
There are lots of very decent hotels for 400-500 bahts in Pattaya.
LittleBigMan
02-14-10, 21:09
My 2 cents and change on motorbikes,
From my observation from many years riding all over Pattaya, this is what I have seen and heard.
Farangs are riding ATM machines on scooters especially if you are driving and staying around the tourist area like Beach Rd. The check point at Soi 9 where the police station is located has a cop just before Soi 9, on Soi 9. until Central Festival, there is a check point just before Royal Garden and after and right around the beginning of Beach Rd as you are required to turn left. The main check point at Soi 9, the cops won't take money since it is too visiable and since they set up a pot that is split between all the cops in the station. There is a check point in Pattaya Tai near Tukcom, there is a check point just off Sukhumvit as you enter down Pattaya Klang, there is a check from time to time down Pattaya Klang as you cross 3rd right as you head down towards 2nd.
Anytime I'm near these areas I make sure especially Beach Rd. I'm always on the right side so I have less chance of being pull over. Once you are pull over they will find something wrong with you or your bike. My opinion their lack of English etc... so they can play dumb is just their method for a license to steal from Farangs. I have sat on Beach Rd. opposite Soi 9, just watching and if you ride like you don't know what you are doing or going, recklessly, no helmet or you passenger doesn't have one... they would pull you over.
I come from Sukhumvit into Pattaya Klang a lot and I have seen Farang as we are waiting for the light to change have good bikes and a helmet on but ride on the right get put over while I go by on the left. Maybe it's because they are fat or just that they are white but nearly every Thai gets a past.
At the same time they need our tourist dollars but that doesn't keep them from shooting themselves in the foot. Kids are out of school in March and April and return in May...November expect greater check points throughout Pattaya since tuition is due for schools.
As for the questions regarding Easter, it doesn't make a difference...if you got cash you will get some ass~
LBM
Its funny, I've driven motorbikes in Pattaya for years, and only ever been the victim of the police shakedown when not wearing a helmet, or carrying a girl who had no helmet. Of course once they get you stopped they fine you the additional amount for no Thai driver's license, but I've never had them find anything wrong with the bike, or even look at it, despite my very poor bikes.
I do have a Thai driving license, but it is for driving a car, and doesn't appear to apply to motorbikes at all.
No, but some might say this is a foolish question. Thailand is a buddhist country and the vast majority of girls will not even have heard of Easter, let alone take the day off to go to church and eat chocolate eggs.That is a big relief mouse.
I was infact wondering about the girls taking leave because of the possible drop in farangs during easter.
Thanks anyway for the reassuarance.
I'm a Motocy guy myself - I find renting, fueling, dealing with the cops, parking, weaving through traffic, all with that vague throb in your crotch from last night and the viagra hangover a bit much to take. Throw in the heat, humidity, pollution and noise, and you're asking for trouble. Of course, I am only ever in Pattaya for a few days at a time, and I never venture too far from walking street, so I have no need for my own scooter.
I jump on a motocy twice a day, end up paying less than 100B a day ($3), and I don't have to worry about anything. Plus, there is the added advantage of being able to take in the scenes while hanging onto the back of that motocy, which is always enjoyable.
Great idea in concept but the execution would have so many legal issues I can't even begin to fathom them. Some one tried doing something similar off of NYC back during the Guliani years and lasted about a nanosecond. It got horrible publicity in the papers and then they started taking pictures of the guys going on board. They shut down quickly thereafter. How are you planning to get the girls from Asia - smuggle them in? The cost of getting to your boat and the price of the stay + the price of the girls would have to exceed simply going to Pattaya by magnitudes. My guess is girls are not going to go for 1000 baht - more likely Euro prices of 200 Euros. Plus every legal agency in the world would be after the ***** Boat. I can see CNN already doing an expose. My guess is that the average guy in P. spends about $50 a day on a hotel and $100 a day on girls/beer and $30 on food. Say $200. If you could beat that price and not get arrested, go for it. My guess is that you would have to market this to a much more upscale niche group than guys who go to Pattay and who can afford to spend a lot of dollars - but my guess is these people would be much too discrete to want to get on a boat full of other mongers for the world to see.
let me add some more thoughts:
Hiring a 200 passenger cruiser will cost you 500k a week and that is a good price.
Lower capacities, will cost you proportionally more.
Then you have to face the difficulties to find a suitable crew.
How many of them will be ready to see but not watch what is going on? Or not to see at all? How amnywill be disturbed by the whole scenery?
People hired to work in brothels or similar mongering activities do that all year long, they know what the game is about.
But the staff of ship cruiser is not rady for that.
It will be super hard even to talk to boat broker about the idea.
A lot of mongerer do go to Asia for other purposes, for business realted activities, and then they cut times or days for the fun,
But there is no need to justify to your wife why you go to Asia.
Imagine having to say: I go one week holiday alone on a boat cruiser, sailing from a nearby harbour.
It might even hit the media news, so people will know there is a funny boat sailing...
If I get sick whilst I am in BKK (for work), nobody will be bothered, even if I break my foot stepping down from a soapie.
But if the same happens where you are not expected to be?
Think about communications etc.
During a work break in Asia I once have been in Thailand for fun and back home I told I was still in Taiwan or Malaysia, I can't rememeber... 4 complicate days to be careful on background noises during phone calls, trusting nothing happened.
That is a big relief mouse.
I was infact wondering about the girls taking leave because of the possible drop in farangs during easter.
Thanks anyway for the reassuarance.No worries. If anything, there may be more farangs there at Easter, but you won't really notice any difference.
I jump on a motocy twice a day, end up paying less than 100B a day ($3), and I don't have to worry about anything. Plus, there is the added advantage of being able to take in the scenes while hanging onto the back of that motocy, which is always enjoyable.I always seem to spend more than I anticipate... The motor bike guys seem to have very fixed rates (dependent upon crossing certain streets?) and I can never bargain with them. Moreover they seem to charge per person, so I've paid 2 x 40Bht for a short journey back to a hotel with two of us on the back of a bike.
OK, it's pennies...
LittleBigMan
02-16-10, 01:41
I have a car and several motorbikes including a sling. When it is up to me my first choice is by far a motorcycle or scooter. Even when it rains I prefer a scooter... why because if you ever drove in Pattaya and had to deal with their concept of driving by the time your get home the day is ruined. You just feel like getting a gun and sit on top of Sukhumvit and have target practice.
As long as you don't act like a fool ( like a Thai ) and drive defensively and use your mirrors you're going to be just fine. It's hot but you get there quickly never worry about parking, gas is cheap, and if you hit a car just take off like a Thai. I take a guess but I think at less 90% of people on scooters don't have any type of insurance to pay you that is why I feel they just take off. And like last year a lady bumped my wife in the back and take off... got the plates but seems no one cares! Cost to me 10,000 baht at the Toyota dealer.
If you're on a holiday just take the Songthaw, cheap and easy, want to get there quickly motorcycle taxis not as bad as people make it.
Walking isn't bad either one can learn a lot and see a lot of candy you normally would not see!
LBM
Fun And Sun
02-16-10, 22:16
Since we're on the topic of Pattaya at the time around Easter...
Am starting to plan my spring trip to LOS, and am keen to avoid the experience of Pattaya during Songkran week since it really isn't my thing.
Tried googling it, but getting various answers which isn't that helpful. So was wondering, is Songkran in Pattaya going to be 12-19 April this year?
Member #3428
02-16-10, 22:47
Tried googling it, but getting various answers which isn't that helpful. So was wondering, is Songkran in Pattaya going to be 12-19 April this year?
I understand it to start the 12th... I got work there in march and I plan to be out by 12th (or done with work atleast)... I'm with you I hate that holiday.... Ever since some fucking drunk jack ass Farang sprayed me with water while I was in work attire going to a meeting (in bkk not pat's however but ever since I hate this time).
Don't forget the cost of the crew, fuel, food, etc. Good intentions, bad idea.
If I spent that much I would be broke. My figures are more like $30 hotel, $60 girls/massages, $12 food and $6 scooter. $108....but I am actively looking for one of those $20/day apartments to cut costs, khrap!
Ya, I was thinking more for guys who come 2-3 weeks a year and save up for a nice trip staying at a decent place, eating and drinking well and going with 2 girls a day. Once you are semi-living here your expenses have to go way down or most of us would be broke. When I stay in Bk for 6 months, my average daily output is probably close to yours.
I'm a Motocy guy myself - I find renting, fueling, dealing with the cops, parking, weaving through traffic, all with that vague throb in your crotch from last night and the viagra hangover a bit much to take. Throw in the heat, humidity, pollution and noise, and you're asking for trouble. Of course, I am only ever in Pattaya for a few days at a time, and I never venture too far from walking street, so I have no need for my own scooter.
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For the most part, mostly true but don't need to limit yourself to just the Walking St area as most of Pattaya is well cover by the 10baht songthr.(bus) so very easy to get around as it's never over 1-2min wait for a bus.
Shark
Finn Mccool
02-17-10, 02:20
I understand it to start the 12th. I got work there in March and I plan to be out by 12th (or done with work atleast). I'm with you I hate that holiday. Ever since some fucking drunk jack ass Farang sprayed me with water while I was in work attire going to a meeting (in BKK not pat's however but ever since I hate this time).I'm making my first trip to Thailand from April 8-24, arriving in Pattaya on the 16th. I am truly hoping that the water fights will be over, or at least on the wane, by that time.
I am in Pattaya for a few days and the US Military are still here after their recent excercise...i have to say right now Pattaya is the most pumping I have ever seen it. The bars are packed and there are loads of young, fun (and very polite and well mannered) US military types giving the place a real sort of Vietnam R&R type feel. It is so refreshing from the usual guys old guys, and Pattaya locals and English lager louts that is the usual mix. The girls are a lot more pumped up and the energy and fun levels are much higher than usual...for my money the best bars in Pattaya right now are Babydolls, Whats Up Bar and The Iron Bar....got an absolute stunner from Sharkys also with big C cup breasts and a perfect body...19 years old and 40 kgs!! Great performed too. For big breast fans try Super Baby which has one girl with massive D cup boobs and although a big girl she is not fat at all...just bigger boned, hope to see her tonight if she is not gone already...also in Whats Up bar in the upstairs area is a girl with a thing body and huge rack....boobs look like she just had a kid but actually she has not.
Khonjaochoo
02-17-10, 05:18
Opinion seems to be split re pregnant girls. About 90% of guys seem appalled by the idea, the other 10% turned on. Anyhow if you happen to be in the 10% you might like the attached pics.Can you PM me her details or post it here?
I cannot send you a PM.
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Big Bopperino
02-17-10, 09:38
I may be going to Thailand (Pats & Phuket) most likely the first couple of weeks in April and am wondering if many of the girls, especially the hot ones, go home for Songkran. If so, when do they leave and when do they return? Do they return???
I'm used to Tijuana where many girls leave a week before Christmas and don't come back until February. And many never return at all.
I can live with the water wars but not a shortage of quality poon.
-BB
Sexual Healing
02-17-10, 17:34
Hi everybody!
I could not read your recent report because I came back from Pattaya with a bad pink eye infection and I can't stand the screen, so I am here face down just looking at the keyborad and typing my report.
I think that after all my questions and request for help I owe you something back, to the one of you first-timers like me as well as to veterans who may enjoy some talking about our main topics. A special Hello, to Thai Learner who I was about to meet there but then, once in Pattaya, anything happens and I was drifted elsewhere by hotel mates, girls, beaches, everything.
So, now I start for real. I have to say that I am overall happy of the experience but I did not enjoy myself as much as I expected.
Part of the let down is for personal reason, example I hate discos music and loud venues and I became fed up quickly with the Walking Street bars (but soi 6, 7, 8 are not much different, after all) but I suppose you are not interested in this. On the other hand, part of the disappointment came from cost of nightlife and because money is about everyone I think this is something we may confront here.
I went to Pattaya with this idea in mind that girls were 500 bath s/t or 1. 000 l/t. I was told so by a friend of mine who used to go every year in the past 4 ys so I had no reason to doubt about it. Only thing he underlined is that he was after a dirty woman rather than a young cutie, so that you may justify cheap rate to you, but I remember girls reported as good looking as well, so we are not talking of the bottom of the chart.
Much to my surprise, I discover quite different rates once there, so I will share this with you to understand if information provided by my friends were wrong or if rates have actually increased since last year. I cannot confront directly with him because he could not come this year, due to hard work and for the same reason I have not speaken to him since my comeback.
I will list my report considering different "class" of girls.
FREELANCERS.
Walking up and down Walking Street I came across many, many fine looking girls already engaged with other gentlemen. I ignore if they were freelancers or bar girl but I was under the imppresion that best was already gone in late January and there were either some left-over available or some expensive one (I will explain this better later).
Girls literary hooking standing on the walkside were no pretty at all, I was lucky enough to get few "walking" girls who looked good and just charged me 500/1. 000 but many others, once got acquainted a little, thay asked me: "How much you give me? "
As I suggested the ordinary 500/1. 000 some tried to raise me to 1. 000/2. 000, some other walked away waving bye-bye without even negotiating.
A girl on Beach Road charged me 700 short time: she was average good looking but no gorgeous and once in the room, she refused me french kiss as well as c. I. M. (anal did not even ask). Another one, a chubby shortie hooked at 4 am out of disco was quite cold in the room and I remember the way she looked disgusted the 500 bath I gave at the end of the session and asked explict 1. 000.
So, this is my general feeling: not cutie, not dirty, not cheap girls as I believed but a mediocre average of it all.
Another bad note goes to disco girls. I mean no bar girls but seemingly "free" girls who go to disco, dance and get acquainted with farang.
I remember I wasted few nights going to Lucifer or Walking Street. Because I hate disco I tried to rush the leaving-disco-for-hotel, but I got a lot of refuse.
Again, I got the impression that thay are not (or don't see themselves) as prostitutes but as girls who like to get a farang for the night who make them dance and drink and after all that maybe go to hotel only if they like the guy. And if this happen, thay get money in the morning the same. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't like that: it seems to me that you have to court AND to pay a girl and I generally pay just because I don't want to flirt too long before sex, if you know what I mean.
The worst of all is the Insomnia bar just at the ground floor below disco. There, very fine girls chat, flirts, and play pool with farang, but if you try to take them out they ask to stay for one more drink or they say they don't work and one of the waiter is her boyfrined. Mmmm. 1, 2, 3 girls same night each one engaged with one of the waiter? What is it, "girlfriend night"? I don't buy it, they are just fake who tried to make customer stay there to drink.
So, after experiencing all this I decided to turn myself to
BAR GIRLS
Maybe it is easy for me to pay-and-go. For many reasibs I don't like the idea of a "barfine" but that's it. Only thing is that is quite hard to spot the "right" girl because there are so many of them and if you just start approaching to have a look to one bar they ask you to sit down and have a drink, so that you can not sit to many bar before finding your mate because that would mean drink the night away spinning hollow.
Moreover, girls working in bars are not necessarely more beautiful than ones on the street and not even hotter in bed so you find yourlsef asking why. Anyway, I had some good time with few bar girls but, again, no deep kissing, no c. I. M. And sometime not even BBBJ. And rates, again, 1. 000/1. 500 up.
Eventually, I though about considering
GO-GOs
First, there is a hell of an urban legend according to which after they get off from work about 3 am girls from go-gos who where not chosen by farang and stayed on the floor until closing time would be inclined to go hotel with one of customer waiting for them outside bar. That would be convenient for both: man because can get girl without paying barfine and lady because they can raise their money rather than going home alone. This is another fake. Girls from go-gos who come out at 3 am after dancing all night are tired and would maybe go with somebody who made deal with them inside bar (meaning: drinking and flirting from late night till closing time), not with first drunk nobody on the street.
By the way, barfine in Go-Gos like Shark and Tiger is 600 bath, and girls charge usually 1. 000/2. 000, which sounds like twice ordinary rate.
So, we are back at start, again, money for drinks, money for barfine, money for girls. It seems there is no way to escape one of them and still get good pussy. After all, it is all quite affordable and possibly still the best bet around, but no "el dorado" as described by somebody.
It was my first time there, but again my feeling is that good times with dolls who make you groove for peanuts are gone, if there ever were, and now business is sneaking deeply into Pattaya too, so that fun is becoming more expensive, girls are getting more comfortable with money-making and self-managing and, ultimately, sex is following rules of the games much as anywhere else more and more.
Given that I could never go there in December because my business is involved with Christmas, if I ever go back I may try late November rather than mid-January to see if the going is more laid back at the begin of the season and cute girls are more available. Meantime I wait to know your point and read your opinion.
I kindly ask to avoid any comment only to the one of you who think they can judge me a cheap charlie. All opinions expressed come from a working class guy trying to get the best from his only hard-earned holiday.
So, if you are retired business men or go-getters who can easily afford plane ticket, hotel, taxi, cocktail on beach, restaurant, shopping et cetera, if it don't mean anything to you if it is 1. 000 or 2. 000 and you don't care paying barfine I am happy for you, but plaese don't laugh at me. Just bypass my post and go your own way.
Thanks
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Spanish Main
02-17-10, 22:26
I was interested to read your report because I am going to Pattaya in a few weeks.
From reading other forums, I think you suffered from peak season prices. At least, I hope so, because I am expecting prices to be a bit lower in April.
The other point I think is that, if you didn΄t like loud music, Pattaya was possibly the wrong choice of holiday. Pattaya sells itself as a loud party town. Perhaps Phuket (outside Patong) would have been better.
I do think the girls are prettier in Pattaya though!
So you made the right choice there...
El Frances
02-17-10, 22:46
Well...
1- It's still peak season so there is more tension on prices. I stayed there at the beginning of December and I saw the girl's attitude progressively changing as peak season was coming. At low season they are starving for customers.
2- In Thailand, as in some other places, what you pay is like a ticket allowing you to play. If you want the girl to be GFE you need to be BFE and gentleman with her. I've been always rewarded for flirting with them.
3- Prices are not the same anywhere: cheaper at Beach Road, then discos (late), then Bier bars and discos (early), then Gogos. In discos they are usually looking for LT and may not accept ST, at beach road and in gogos they often prefer ST.
4- As in any transaction, if you want to get cheap price (in particular during peak season) you often need to bear non-monetary transaction costs, search cost, time cost, etc...
I rarely comment reports but yours was interesting. I don't think you are a cheap charlie, I believe this definition is for people who do not tip good girls, or bargain with girls forgetting it's just 4 or 5 euros/dollars difference. Being cost conscious is a long-term approach, totally different.
I have been in Pattaya very often in the last 20+ years and yes the good times are gone, the cheap, stunning beauties have disappeared together with the nice beaches and clean waters (well they were never that clean.). Like you say, it's no "el dorado" any more.
Go-gos are my primary choice. The rates you mention (1k-2k) are real and cannot be avoided (normally). Yes it may be double the ordinary rate but it is well worth because go-go girls are usually way better than average, and you also save time, plenty of it.
Two weeks ago I met two Italian guys that visit Pattaya 2 or 3 times a year and never go to go-go bars. I spent a couple of evenings with them because they were fun, so I had a break from my routine and could see other people's habits: we walked on beach road maybe 3 or 4 times its entire length from soi 6 to walking street before we could find someone likeable. It was like 2 or 3 hours with some stops in bars for refreshments. So I ended up tired, wasted my evening and paid 300 or 400 just to stay hydrated. Needless to say, the quality of girls was terrible so I went back alone to my hotel, my legs aching. Compare this to my average evening: I visit 3 or 4 air conditioned bars, have one drink in each one and (optional) pay 2 ladydrinks and 1 barfine. In "worst" (LOL) case total damage is like 1200 baht (plus the short/long time fee). Well I am very happy to pay the extra 800 and the extra 1. 000 to the girl, given the differences I mentioned. The two guys always found someone they like. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder as you know, so good luck to them but after this experience I will stick to my go-gos for life. The beauty of Pattaya is that anybody can find his match with a little patience: if you have more patience and energy than I have you'll probably save some hundred baht per evening and also find a nice companion. Not sure though.
Discos: Lucifer, Insomnia. Your impressions are 100% correct IMHO. If you are young and good looking, and you like horrible music and dark, crowded places you may save some money and go home with a real beauty but: 1) chances are she is on some sort of drugs. 2) most beauties are not so beautiful when you see them in a normal light. 3) if you plan to pay less than 1. 000 the next morning be prepared for trouble 4) you have to act like a guy in a disco which is. Well you know: we pay to AVOID that!
You may find the occasional go-go girl wandering in a disco at 3 or 4 am (it is NOT a urban legend: one girl from Happy confirmed this just last week, and several others in the past) but they are few and may be really tired (or high, which is worse IMHO).
So how to cut your expenses without giving up quality? Possible solutions
1) Keep walking: not just beach road, but shopping malls, second road, once in a while you'll find a gem. Wear comfortable shoes, do it from noon to midnight, be relaxed, smile and good luck.
2) Go only to go-gos and massage parlours: when you find a girl you like just take her and if you like the experience she will easily see you before or after work in the next days, so another barfine or massage fee is avoided, plus you have a girl you do like. Buy a thai phonecard: the wonderful mobile phone makes easy what in the past was impossible: keep contact with the girls. Girls used to be hostages of their workplace. Not anymore! So use technology to your advantage!
Summing it up, do not expect too much from Pattaya, but don't be negative: you'll certainly have fun once you find your own rhythm and places. I am sure you will enjoy Pattaya next time you go there, as many of us do.
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This is just a description of negotiations with a taxi guy to take me to Pattaya from BKK. I always wondered what this would be like, and so I suppose someone else on this board might benefit slightly from this. My next report is the details of what actually happened in Pattaya.
My plan was ambitious - something I was all too aware of as I crafted it. The plan was to get off work at 3pm, then hightail it over to Ekkamai and catch a bus down to Pattaya in time to meet my gogo girl before she goes to work. So if I arrived at 5:30, that would give us two hours before she had to run off to check in at the bar. Then the evening is free for me to recuperate a little, then hit Roxy for round 2 with Om (girl with the superb ass from a few nights ago). As you can see, timing was crucial here - I had to get to Pattaya in time for my girl to get to me before the gogo bar opened, or else I would be stuck with her the whole night.
But work proved itself reliable and ran late, so I got out at 3:50. No way I'm getting to Pattaya by 5:30 now. In fact, we're looking at a 7pm arrival. So I grabbed a taxi down there. I got into a regular BKK meter taxi and told the guy I wanted to go to Pattaya. He chuckled and said something in Thai. Me no understand, and he no speak English. So he pulls out his calculator and types in 1700. I balk, grab the calculator and type in 1000. He laughs long and heartily, and then counters with 1500. I do a Beavis hee-hee, type in 1200 and I say that HE pays the tolls. He is now confused by tolls, so he calls his friend and gives me the phone. His friend asks me how much I want to pay, and I tell him 1200, but he has to pay the tolls. The guy says no. So I said ok, I will pay the tolls, but that's it. The guys says no, 1500. So I say, ok, tell the taxi guy to take me to the BTS - I will go to Ekkamai and take a bus. All of a sudden, 1200 + tolls seems pretty good, so we agree. But he says that this current taxi guy doesn't know his way to Pattaya, and we need to make a switch. So I tell him to be quick, and 10 minutes later I am in a different taxi with a new driver.
This guy seems older and more experienced. He turns to me and starts a new negotiation - how much you say? He hands me a piece of paper and a pen, so I write down the following: 1200 (tolls = 150). He looks at this, mumbles to himself, and counters with the following on the piece of paper: 1300 total. I was about to protest, saying that 1200+tolls comes out to more than 1300, but I agreed. So that was it - 1300 total payment for door-to-door service. It was a little expensive (I know you can get some taxis to go down there for 1000), but given my intense need to copulate, I just let the 300 baht go.
2 hours later, 6:15pm, I was in Pattaya showered and waiting for my girl. To Be Continued.
My gogo girl was one that I met a week ago (I don't want to mention which bar or her number/name or anything because she was breaking the rules by seeing me outside of office hours. I know this is not uncommon, but still). She arrived at 6:20, and we spent 2 delightful hours nuzzling, kissing, groping and, yes, copulating.
About half way through this, she pulls back a little, looks me in the eye and says 'I lub you'. Oh crap. I look at her with a blank but slightly puzzled look on my face. I've been with this girl three times now, known her for a week, and she drops the Lub bomb on me now? Sensing this, her expression changes to one that says 'Too soon?' I smile, kiss her, and go on with the love making. Afterwards, as I dismiss her from my presence, she says it again 'I lub you tilak.' Oh crap, please stop saying that! I don't need this emotional baggage.
So I shower long and hard, trying to wash the sound of that sentence out of my mind. I had lots of crazy sex to engage in - I couldn't do that with this sentence ringing in my head. But I couldn't shake the sight of her lowered chin, puppy-dog eyes, trembling voice saying 'I lub you.' Shit.
Eight O'Clock, ran over to the Lebanese restaurant on second road, had some Hummus and bread, and scampered over to Walking Street. Made a bee line for Happy Agogo and their 59B draft beer - guzzled two of those things down, washing away some of the emotional distress I was under. Watched the jiggling bums and shaking legs is cathartic.
I spy three beautiful girls, each with round, luscious asses. The first girl, #46, has what is in my opinion a pretty nice ass. It's just a little celluliscous, but delectable nonetheless. But she's got attitude - she dances very slowly, avoids eye contact and seems generally pissed off. But she's pretty, pretty, pretty, that's for sure. The second, #61, is much more bouncy. She has braces, big hair, B-cups, petite-yet-prominent booty. Nice to look at, probably great in bed. And third is #71 who has the most unusual figure - she is skinny, small b-cups, skinny legs, and an ass that is just...well...bubbly. It's weird, it's like the butt cheeks just hang out there, well shaped and everything, but just disproportionate to the rest of her body. The downside is that her face is rather hard - her cheeks (facial, that is) are depressed a little, causing her lips to protrude a little, giving her a slightly unapproachable look. So there we have it - three nice asses, none of which are Kumbu-worthy tonight.
So I pay up, trot over to Roxy to pick up Om from the previous night, but sadly she has already been BFed. Wow, that was early - Roxy opens at 9pm and at 9:15 she was gone. Popular girl. Anyway, I drift back down walking street and decide to drop into Baby Dolls. The waitresses here are really cool - I have a great rapport with them. We joke around, yak-yak a lot, and they are generally very fun to be with. So I go in, get another beer, and then look around as the waitresses ply me with kind words, massages, and some small Thai snacks that they are all sharing. I see two potentials - #51 and #55. But I am not buzzed enough yet to drop the 'I lub you' thing yet, so I order a second beer and the girls all look at me. A second beer? This guy must be serious...I am suddenly a mark.
After 10 minutes, #55 comes over and sits her pretty self next to me. She is small, very slight, with a pretty face and a staggering figure. Shit, female proportions are defined by this girl - perfect sized breasts for her body, teensy little waist, round hips, pert butt, nice legs, damn, she has it all. But 3 minutes into our talking the DJ announces the change in dance sessions and she has to go dance. Ok, that would give me a chance to inspect her figure more fully.
So she gets on stage and comes over and starts to dance right in front of me. the thing is that dancing right in front of me meant that she was also dancing right infront of the three guys to my left. Guy #1 was an old German dude on his fourth beer (just getting started for a German); guy #2 was a Steve Buscemi lookalike - he had those brown teeth, stringy hair, skinny as hell, sunken eyes, poorly shaved chin; and Guy #3 was well-dressed white guy playing on his phone sending text after text without looking up. He's wearing a formal shirt, long sleeved, with dark blue slacks and formal shoes. He has a coke/Whisky in front of him from which he has not had even a single sip. He was the pro amongst us, I could tell.
Girl #55 is dancing one sexy dance, twisting hips, flicking her hair, mmm, groovy. Guy#1 shifts in his chair and mutters something to himself in German. I see Steve Buscemi chuckle and wipe the spit from the edge of his mouth. And Guy#3, Mr. Pro, keeps hacking away at his qwerty keyboard, seeming not to notice the girl at all.
The girl is clearly working all four of us. She positioned herself such that no other girl could come close to us, and she was working the line of guys very carefully. She would look at me a little, then give me a very, very subtle smile from one side of her mouth. This would indicate to me that *I* am the one she really likes, but it would be so subtle that the other three guys could not see it. She then would move her primary gaze over to German Guy, and do the same with him. The Steve got his 2 minutes of attention, and then Mr.Pro got it too, despite his seeming lack of interest. Then it was back to me. This girl was good.
So the waitress comes over and starts to tease me.
Waitress: You like pretty lady, no?
Me: Yup, she sure is pretty.
Waitress: She like you, I can tell.
Me: How can you tell?
Waitress: She came to you to talk - she never do that.
Me: Sure.
waitress: Leally, she never do like that with other cutummer (customer).
Me: Ok.
waitress: You want buy lady dink?
Me: when she is done, I am enjoying myself right now.
10 minutes later, Mr.Pro snaps his head up and motions the mama san over with great urgency. Mama san runs over, pushing aside two waitresses in the process. Mr.Pro cracks out some orders, and mama san turns to girl #55 and orders her over to Mr.Pro. What? I have dibs on her, and Mr. Pro bucked the line! Before I can get too upset, waitress explains that money talks. Mr.Pro is buying the girl a drink, which, it must be said, was something that I was asked to do and I declined. I no buy drink, she no sit with me. I knew that.
So the guy starts to chat her up, pulls her close and lays her small head on his chest, puts his arm around her and cuddles her like she belongs to him already. Meanwhile, I am hearing it from the troupe of waitresses: I let this one slip out of my hands; I waited too long; the rich white guy beat me to her; no problem, many beautiful ladies here, etc. They're cackling at me like a group of hyenas, and it was getting a little old. But one waitress comes over, put sher arm around me as if to console me and tells me to be patient. She starts to massage my forearm a little, gently whispering in my ear that all hope is not lost. Truth be told, I'm getting a little turned on by this waitress - if only she were 15 years, 50 pounds and three kids lighter. She says that this girl has had four customers buy her drinks already, but no BF. The waitress believes there will be no BF coming from Mr.Pro tonight - that was her professional opinion. I asked her how she knows that, and she just shrugged and said she knows. I was not so sure.
5 minutes pass and Mr.Pro orders some ping pong balls. You can buy ping pong balls in the amount of 1 for 20B, 5 for 100B, a small basket for 500B and a big basket for 1000B. He buys the big basket and without even thinking about it, he tosses the whole thing into the bath/shower show to the left. The girls scream and dive into the foamy water to retrieve the balls, spoiling their makeup and hair in the process. Why did Mr.Pro just do that? Makes little sense to me.
He then orders another basket of balls and summarily tosses that onto the dance floor, and the girls all scurry around screaming trying to pick up the balls. Again...Mr.Pro...why you do dat? He then orders the check-bin, pays up, gives #55 100B in tip, and leaves. Umm...what does baffled mean? I don't get what he thinks he just accomplished, other than blowing 2500B on nothing. Ok, so he comes back the next day and is treated like a king, but you can do that by spending 500B.
#55 watches him leave, and as soon as he is gone, she jumps up, runs over to me and puts her small head on my shoulder as if to say 'I really wanted you, not that ridiculously rich, handsome, well-dressed, moderately insane guy that just left'.
We talk a little, I buy her a drink, and then at the behest of the waitress, I BF her. The BF is expensive here, for whatever reason. On Fri, Sat and Sun, BF=1000B, and on other days it is 700B. This is not right. It was a Sunday night, so they wanted to charge me 1000B. I protested, so they dropped it to 700B. This is still above market rate, but I needed something to take the edge off the 'I lub you' moment that was playing ad nauseum in my head.
So we bust outta there, walk back to the hotel, and once on the bed, we start the small talk. She's 19 years old, weighs 41kg, stands a mere 5'1", and as I said before, stunningly proportionate. After 10 minutes of small talk I go shower, and when I get out I hear her screaming to me and she rushes into the bathroom and says:
#55: Baby, me have pompem.
Me: What's the problem baby?
#55: So solly, me have X-men.
Me: ...
#55: X-men, X-men, me so solly.
Me: Umm...
#55: But me ok outside, no pompem. But me have pompen with X-men.
Me: Wolverine? Dr. X? Alot of people have a problem with the last movie, but...
#55: ...?
Me: Sorry, I don't understand what you're saying.
She grabs my hand and pulls me back into the bedroom...and behold! My bed, previously pristine white sheets, was now covered in red bloody splotches. Oh crap. I mean, Oh period. Ok, so it's her period, right, and I have BFed her, right, and what am I supposed to do with her now? No clue. I sure as hell am not boinking that thing now, and the BJ ain't worth my time or effort, so WTF?
So she is very apologetic, and she says that everything on the outside is fine, so I can play with that, and that if I give her 10 minutes she can mop up whatever is inside with a stick tampon so there will be no visible effect of the period, so everything will be ok. Ok?
No, not ok. I tell her it is time for her to go. She protests, saying mama san will be angry. I tell her that I will not tell mama san if she does not, and that I am not angry (disappointed, but not angry), so let's just call it quits and she can leave. She asks for some money, and I resist laughing, but tell her that money is only for those that do things. And with a period, she should not be working, so no, no money. She understood. She was not happy, but did not protest beyond sticking her lips out to pout.
Does anyone know what this girl intended when she said X-Men? I mean, what is the target word for her? Was it in Thai, or is there some English word that means period that sounds like X-Men?
Anyway, she left, and I was left with a bloody bed and a wasted night. I couldn't go out and bring another girl back to this bloody mess, and I don't like ST hotels, so I decided to call it a night and went to sleep. As I got into bed, carefully avoiding the bloody sections, I decided to flick through the channels looking for the Arsenal game, and lo and behold, it was on tv, and only 5 minutes into the game. Great, I pulled out a Heineken from the minibar and I watched a laboring Arsenal beat a toothless Liverpool 1-0, while United and Chelsea both dropped points. All of a sudden, my night was rocking!
Hey there .. Good perspective, thanks for posting. I also get no thrill from throwing money away, and in my experience the more money is involved, the worse the service and experience becomes. (This isn't an absolute rule, of course.)
I went to Pattaya with this idea in mind that girls were 500 bath s/t or 1. 000 l/t. I was told so by a friend of mine who used to go every year in the past 4 ys
Maybe he didn't actually go there. Sounds like straight-up bullshit to me, except if he stuck to Beach Rd veterans.
First, there is a hell of an urban legend according to which after they get off from work about 3 am girls from go-gos who where not chosen by farang and stayed on the floor until closing time would be inclined to go hotel with one of customer waiting for them outside bar.
Once I flirted with a waitress from the gogo opposite Kitten Club in Soi Pattayaland. At closing time I poked my head in again and ran into her. Asked her to come with me and she nodded, asked how much and it was "up to me", asked again and she said as long as it's not less than 1000. Very pleasant night ensued. And I can't go with an ugly girl, she was damn nice. So it does happen, with luck. I think I gave her something like 1300 ..
By the way, barfine in Go-Gos like Shark and Tiger is 600 bath, and girls charge usually 1. 000/2. 000, which sounds like twice ordinary rate.
Sounds perfectly standard to me; many bars would try to push that higher.
It was my first time there, but again my feeling is that good times with dolls who make you groove for peanuts are gone, if there ever were, and now business is sneaking deeply into Pattaya too, so that fun is becoming more expensive, girls are getting more comfortable with money-making and self-managing and, ultimately, sex is following rules of the games much as anywhere else more and more.
"If they ever were" indeed. There are cheaper places in the world, but they simply don't come with 5-star hotels, excellent international flight connections, international restaurants, good roads, cineplexes, upscale shopping centers, etc. Sex in Pattaya is incredibly cheap for a place which offers all of that. The only reason it is, is because it draws on a supply of girls from poor provinces, and because of a lot of competition. Business isn't "sneaking" into Pattaya, business *is* Pattaya and has been from day one. I think it's more that the standard of living in Thailand is rising across the board.
Given that I could never go there in December because my business is involved with Christmas, if I ever go back I may try late November rather than mid-January to see if the going is more laid back at the begin of the season and cute girls are more available.
Why on earth focus on the season? Come in June! Seriously :-)
...Does anyone know what this girl intended when she said X-Men? I mean, what is the target word for her? Was it in Thai, or is there some English word that means period that sounds like X-Men?..
menses ... menstruation ... on the rag ... period! X marks the spot(s) on your sheet.
You should have cut your losses and taken the blowjob. (IMHO, of course)
Well.
1- It's still peak season so there is more tension on prices. I stayed there at the beginning of December and I saw the girl's attitude progressively changing as peak season was coming. At low season they are starving for customers.
2- In Thailand, as in some other places, what you pay is like a ticket allowing you to play. If you want the girl to be GFE you need to be BFE and gentleman with her. I've been always rewarded for flirting with them.
3- Prices are not the same anywhere: cheaper at Beach Road, then discos (late), then Bier bars and discos (early), then Gogos. In discos they are usually looking for LT and may not accept ST, at beach road and in gogos they often prefer ST.
4- As in any transaction, if you want to get cheap price (in particular during peak season) you often need to bear non-monetary transaction costs, search cost, time cost, etc.When I was there I was told that peak season starts Nov 1. I was also told hotel prices and other prices would double then. Could someone clarify during which times prices double and if it is better to go just before peak or is just after peak better?
Member #2041
02-18-10, 07:19
Maybe he didn't actually go there. Sounds like straight-up bullshit to me, except if he stuck to Beach Rd veterans.
You can pretty much pull any girl from Beach road, even the best looking of them, for 500 ST. The older or less good looking ones will go for less, if one is inclined to be a cheap charlie. Depending on the time, and if they are even inclined to offer LT, then 1000 is the going rate for LT for a beach road girl, if it's anywhere near midnight.
I never paid anyone more than 500 for ST in Pattaya unless I was negotiating a premium service (like BBFS or Anal) and every one I went with was young and well above average looking. I had one real hottie start by asking for 800 and not be willing to go below 600, but I didn't take her because her attitude was that her shit didn't stink.
menses ... menstruation ... on the rag ... period! X marks the spot(s) on your sheet.
You should have cut your losses and taken the blowjob. (IMHO, of course)
menses, yes of course, that must be it.
BJ, well, yes, but the blood was everywhere...didn't have the stomach for it at that point. Plus I had blown my wad earlier that evening, so I was not terribly desperate.
I went to Pattaya with this idea in mind that girls were 500 bath s/t or 1. 000 l/t....
Much to my surprise, I discover quite different rates once there,
Those are the correct prices, SH - 500 short and 1,000 long time, maybe 600-800 for anal or bareback. I have to admit I have not paid 300 or 400 in a year, but it happened fairly often before that.
There are of course many new guys who have lots of money and know very little who pay more than is necessary, so the price is creeping up in the sense that if girls think you are inexperienced, insecure, or otherwise foolish, they will try to ask for more. And obviously go-gos have always been about double the price of the other options.
For sure you need never pay more than 500 on the Beach or from the vast majority of beer bars. I never pay more than 500 to the girl on Soi Six. I have to admit I have never taken a girl 'long time' as I don't like it, so I can't speak about that, but others consistently tell me it is 1,000 (or in rare cases even less).
However if you were looking for that rarity - the fairly fresh 18-21 year old cutie, then you may have to pay more, or look outside the tourist zones (and speak Thai at least somewhat). Mostly though, service is so bad with that type of girl there's little point.
The first rule is, if you ask a girl how much and she says 'how much you pay?', just walk away. You don't want that girl - she'll be no fun and a bad deal, maybe even trouble. If she says 500, take her. If she says 1,000, walk away. Its really pretty simple.
Basically nowadays if you don't want to pay huge amounts, you have to be ready to be 'rejected' by some prostitutes once in a while - hardly a life shattering experience.
Crocodilexp
02-18-10, 09:52
Let's assume for a minute that there was a luxury cruise boat, with go-go bars similar to the Angeles bars, with Philippino/Thai/Chinese girls giving the same kind of service as in Angeles/Pattaya/Dongguan.
1. Would you guys be interested in using such service instead of actually going to those preferred mongering sites (PI/Thailand/China)?
2. Today, when you have your vacation in those sites, how much do you spend on flights, accommodations, and food, not calculating the spending on the ladies (LD, BF, Tips, Gifts, etc.)?
UN LE70
While the idea sounds great, I think many people would not be up for it. Two problems (assuming you get over the practical/legal difficulties).
1. Lack of plausible deniability. Guys can at least pretend to go to Thailand for reasons other than PFP, with your boat this would not be the case. If it gets any media attention, even boarding it in a discreet manner may become difficult.
2. My budget would be $100-$150/day, and for that I'd expect 2-3 STs. However, I doubt you'd be able (or actually willing to) compete on price with Thailand or PI. In an enclosed environment, there would be strong pressure to push the prices up. If you fix the prices, they'll be high (and service bad, as girls would compete on numbers). If you don't fix them, there's every incentive to rip off the customer (since they're on the boat for one thing only, have limited choice and can't go anywhere).
Sexual Healing
I know what you say about the incessant disco noise in Pattaya, go to Hua Hin, a lot less disco, also a lot less girls and bars, but trust me you'll have a good time for sure, and within budget.
Kumbu
I went one stop further than you, I was shagging this girl and I thought that her pussy was extraordinarily moist, it was, with blood. She had started her 'Mens' during copulation, fortunately I managed to cum before dis-engaging.
All my thoughts went to the sign on the back of the door which stated that stained bedsheets incurred a 300 baht charge.
Fortunately Tirac managed to clean up the sheet and mattress, first time that this has ever happened to me.
ThaiLearner
02-18-10, 10:53
Hi
While I was there from 29/12/09 until the 23/01/10 I paid the following
FL beach Road 500ST + 100 (room)
BG 500ST +250BF
BG 1000LT + 300BF
Soi 6 700ST + 300BF/ROOM (6 different girls)
GG 1000LT + 600BF (baby dolls) (got this rate many times)
GG 1000LT + 300BF (after 0130am)(baby dolls)(got this rate many times)
GG 1500LT + 500BF (Mistys)
These figures do not include drinks for myself, Lady drinks, food or any gifts for the ladies.
I am happy with what I paid and the prices were fair.
Just think of trying to have the same fun back at home for these prices I doubt very much that you can.
Kumbu
I went one stop further than you, I was shagging this girl and I thought that her pussy was extraordinarily moist, it was, with blood. She had started her 'Mens' during copulation, fortunately I managed to cum before dis-engaging.
All my thoughts went to the sign on the back of the door which stated that stained bedsheets incurred a 300 baht charge.
Fortunately Tirac managed to clean up the sheet and mattress, first time that this has ever happened to me.
It can be dissapointing when you discover she is on the rag. But I maybe went even one step further and banged her knowingly. I also pulled her from Babydolls and just put a towel underneath her. The blood got soaked through and I was also charged 300B for the sheets. :)
We talk a little, I buy her a drink, and then at the behest of the waitress, I BF her. The BF is expensive here, for whatever reason. On Fri, Sat and Sun, BF=1000B, and on other days it is 700B. This is not right. It was a Sunday night, so they wanted to charge me 1000B. I protested, so they dropped it to 700B. This is still above market rate, but I needed something to take the edge off the 'I lub you' moment that was playing ad nauseum in my head.
1000B BF at Babydolls on the weekends???? Can someone else confirm this. It's usually 600B for dancers, 700B for showgirls and 300B for them all after 0130.
ThaiLearner
02-18-10, 19:24
Thanks, TL. I'll be in Pattaya Mar 8- 12 and can hardly wait! Curious, why is Misty's 500B more? Are the girls better? Did you see any really busty ones in your travels? (.) (.)
Yes there are busty ones some are real and some are fake. there is one in Baby Dolls with really big tits but she is not my thing. I like the small and pert ones with big nipples
The girl from Misty (i think she was #69) had shortish hair and a nice set of tits.
The fee was agreed with her and we just wait straight to the room.
Where as the Baby doll girl we had food and visited other places and we went out with her sister and her work friends.
Member #2041
02-18-10, 20:20
The first rule is, if you ask a girl how much and she says 'how much you pay?', just walk away. You don't want that girl - she'll be no fun and a bad deal, maybe even trouble. If she says 500, take her. If she says 1,000, walk away. Its really pretty simple.
I've not had any problems with a "how much you pay" girl, so long as she said yes when I offered 500. If she comes back with a higher number, I laugh and go on to the next girl. Clearly, the "how much you pay" gambit is an attempt to make hay off of folks who don't know the pricing structure in Pattaya, but many girls are perfectly fine with the market rate when that initial gambit doesn't result in a sucker. In fact, the best girl I went with on my entire trip last December did the "how much you pay" the first time I saw her. But I ended up having her come back to my place 4 days in a row for 500 ST. And she was a stellar, genuinely affectionate GFE performer.
If the girl has her periode why not take her anal. Would be a good possibility to convince her to try it. ;)
Regarding priceses in June. I wouldn't say that the prices for girls are lower in June. Nope, they are the same like in January. Hotel priceses are lower that is true.
Are there better selection in June than in January. I didn't had the feeling. I got the impression that in June many girls left Pattaya. The not so good looking once to their villages, the pretty ones to Singapore, HK, Dubai, Europe, etc.
I am not sure about that, of course. But, in November I say way more hotties than in June.
Khonjaochoo
02-19-10, 07:55
To use the Forum's Private Message service, both you and the Forum Member you are trying to contact must be either a subscriber or a Senior Member. (...) If you cannot afford $20 dollars to buy a subscription, then perhaps you can convince another forum member to purchase a subscription for you. [/blue]As I do not want to afford $20 dollars for a subscription (and as most certainly no one would sponsor one for me) I invite the original poster again to post the girls contact details here, so everyone benefits from it and no one needs to overpay.
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Greetings Everyone,
It would appear that Khonjaochoo...
1. Believes that everything on the internet should be free, or...
2. Believes that it's okay for me to pay the forum's server bills so he can enjoy a free website, or...
3. Believes that it's okay that I should work for free to maintain this website, or...
4. Cannot afford the $20 to buy a subscription.
Anyway, if anyone wants to purchase a subscription for Khonjaochoo, all you need to do is enter his username where indicated when making the credit card charge.
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/subscriptions.php?
Thanks,
Jackson
GregLondon
02-19-10, 09:09
As I do not want to afford $20 dollars for a subscription (and as most certainly no one would sponsor one for me) I invite the original poster again to post the girls contact details here, so everyone benefits from it and no one needs to overpay.
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Greetings Everyone,
It would appear that Khonjaochoo...
1. Believes that everything on the internet should be free, or...
2. Believes that it's okay for me to pay the forum's server bills so he can enjoy a free website, or...
3. Believes that it's okay that I should work for free to maintain this website, or...
4. Cannot afford the $20 to buy a subscription.
Anyway, if anyone wants to purchase a subscription for Khonjaochoo, all you need to do is enter his username where indicated when making the credit card charge.
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/subscriptions.php?
Thanks,
Jackson
Without wishing to suck up to Jackson, I think his point is entirely reasonable. This site provides information way in excess of $20 for anyone wishing to dabble in the p4p scene. The scheme of providing gratis senior membership to frequent contributors is very reasonable as probably 90% of the information is generated by say 105 of the members.
Khonnobjockey
You are absolutely pathetic...if you dont want to pay the $20 then f#ck off.
Sorry to be so blunt but your post is one of the most pathetic I have ever read on any forum online. The value of the information on this website is absolutely massive and can save you hundreds of dollars and even thousands if you are a serious hobbyist.
Get real or F*CK OFF (apologies to others for this rant and obscenties)
Spanish Main
02-19-10, 09:48
Khonnobjockey
You are absolutely pathetic...if you dont want to pay the $20 then f#ck off.
Sorry to be so blunt but your post is one of the most pathetic I have ever read on any forum online. The value of the information on this website is absolutely massive and can save you hundreds of dollars and even thousands if you are a serious hobbyist.
Get real or F*CK OFF (apologies to others for this rant and obscenties)
Khonnobyjockey is either a wind-up or a wanker!
As I do not want to afford $20 dollars for a subscription
If you can't afford 5.6 Cents per day, why do you consider P4P at all?
Sometimes it's 40, sometimes 100 Dollars a day or easily even more.
Must be well above your budget then, right?
Kuripot.
Better you stay at home.
Cheers!
A white guy walks in, well dressed, perhaps in his early 50s, and so still quite spry. He walks past me and sits to my right. The mama san jumps up and attends to him immediately - after all, he ticks all the right boxes: male, white, middle-aged, well-dressed, and arriving after 2am. She points to one girl and yanks her off stage (literally) and throws her at the guy (literally). The girl stumbled, paused to fix her hair, and then smiled at the gent. The gent looked her over, expressionless. He then turned his gaze stageward. The mama san saw this, screamed at the girl next to him to fuck off, and she pointed to the next girl, who happened to be Ms. Sultry. Gentleman looks her over, again expressionless, and minimally nods his head. Mama san screams at Ms. Sultry and yanks her off stage. Ms. Sultry, too good for this, pulls her hand back, and then daintily steps onto a stool, then down onto the floor. As she lands, she looks my way as if to say 'last chance...' I give her a blank look - my decision had already been made, but this gave me a very easy way to proceed. So she sits next to Gentleman.
And this is where it gets interesting. She sits down, and Gentleman immediately climbs ontop of her. I mean, he turned to her, moved right ontop of her, and his tongue came out like a moray eel flitting out of its hole, flicking this way and that. She instantly recoiled, just a little, and then her training kicked in and she froze, letting his tongue do whatever was required. There was not a single word exchanged between these two, and Gentleman was already using his tongue on her.
Truth be told, I was conflicted by the whole thing. One part of me was kind of grossed out by this display, and I realized I had an expression of utter disgust on my face. I looked around, and the staff and other girls were passively watching, as if nothing unusual was happening. But the poor girl was clearly uncomfortable, squirming slightly, leaning back as far as she could. But the large arms of Gentleman were wrapped around her, leaving her in the death embrace for sure. It truly was an Animal Planet moment where the little mollusk is engulfed by the sea slug, powerless and pathetic.
But another part of me was in awe. This dude clearly knew exactly what he was doing. He was testing her out to see if she would recoil, and how much. This, presumably, was a gauge of how pliable she would be once back in the hotel room. A very interesting tactic - place her under the most serious of strain at a late hour and see if she rejects him or not. The girl was borderline, in my opinion, in that she was recoiling, but not rejecting.
I was fascinated...what will happen next? I wish I had some popcorn and a camera. So Gentleman now lifts his head and whispers a few words (inaudible), to which Ms. Sultry nods and agrees, and he says a few more words, and she nods again, and then his head went straight between her breasts and the nuzzling began. Oh. My. God.
Great reports, all very interesting to read.
With this one, it struck me as a bit creepy, like the guy wasn't so much testing her out for compatibility/pliability as just abusing his power in the situation. From the way you describe it, to me it sounded like he gets his jollies enjoying the feeling of the powerless girl squirming in his clutches, kind of like a cat toying with a mouse its about to kill. I wonder, what would happen in a situation like that in most bars if the girl did protest and escaped from the guy, refused to go along with it.
Great reports, all very interesting to read.
With this one, it struck me as a bit creepy, like the guy wasn't so much testing her out for compatibility/pliability as just abusing his power in the situation. From the way you describe it, to me it sounded like he gets his jollies enjoying the feeling of the powerless girl squirming in his clutches, kind of like a cat toying with a mouse its about to kill. I wonder, what would happen in a situation like that in most bars if the girl did protest and escaped from the guy, refused to go along with it.
I agree Wendella - I love Kumbu's reports, great writing and nice details. But this moment made me pause, because that guy just seemed to be a power-hungry creep (indeed, maybe a very dangerous person to the girls), not someone to admire.
While the idea sounds great, I think many people would not be up for it. Two problems (assuming you get over the practical/legal difficulties).
1. Lack of plausible deniability. Guys can at least pretend to go to Thailand for reasons other than PFP, with your boat this would not be the case. If it gets any media attention, even boarding it in a discreet manner may become difficult.
2. My budget would be $100-$150/day, and for that I'd expect 2-3 STs. However, I doubt you'd be able (or actually willing to) compete on price with Thailand or PI. In an enclosed environment, there would be strong pressure to push the prices up. If you fix the prices, they'll be high (and service bad, as girls would compete on numbers). If you don't fix them, there's every incentive to rip off the customer (since they're on the boat for one thing only, have limited choice and can't go anywhere).He could definitely compete on price.
You expect 2 st per day you say. In 10 days that is 20 sessions. For this your budget is around 4000 dollars at least including flight hotel etc. That is a cost of 200 dollars per session or more.
What you won't get is a selection of thousands of girls, mamasans, and a million funny experiences and new impressions.
A luxuary boat would be no different from a large land brothel in nevada or somewhere.
It could nver compete on the total package.
If the girl has her periode why not take her anal. Would be a good possibility to convince her to try it. ;)
Regarding priceses in June. I wouldn't say that the prices for girls are lower in June. Nope, they are the same like in January. Hotel priceses are lower that is true.
Are there better selection in June than in January. I didn't had the feeling. I got the impression that in June many girls left Pattaya. The not so good looking once to their villages, the pretty ones to Singapore, HK, Dubai, Europe, etc.
I am not sure about that, of course. But, in November I say way more hotties than in June.
I did, but the girl was small and here butthole to tight ;)
Speaking about low season, I've been there a few times in September. I agree the number of good looking ones are lower than in November, but so are the number of mongers. So competition for the good ones isn't too hard. If I can get 40 stunners I can bang instead of 200, I still haven't got time to do them all. And as you say hotels come cheaper. Though it can be bloody hot and humid I love low season.
But this moment made me pause, because that guy just seemed to be a power-hungry creep (indeed, maybe a very dangerous person to the girls), not someone to admire.
With this one, it struck me as a bit creepy, like the guy wasn't so much testing her out for compatibility/pliability as just abusing his power in the situation. From the way you describe it, to me it sounded like he gets his jollies enjoying the feeling of the powerless girl squirming in his clutches, kind of like a cat toying with a mouse its about to kill. As I say, I was creeped out by the guy too. But the sense I got from it was that this guy was known to the mama san, i.e., he had been there before, probably taken a girl from there before, and she came back no worse for it. Presumably she reported back to mama san that the guy is a power hungry jerk, but that when he gets into the bedroom he blows his wad in 10 seconds and then sleeps like a baby. Or something like that. At least I hope that was the case.
I wonder, what would happen in a situation like that in most bars if the girl did protest and escaped from the guy, refused to go along with it.
I suspect she would be fined. A girl I was talking to said to me that if a customer wants her, 'may pay maay daay', which I slowly figured out means 'you can't NOT go with the customer'. The fine is often excessive - this girl told me that it was 1000B for every incident, i.e., far in excess of the BF. So the girls really are in a tough situation, and I don't think the girl in my report could have resisted or left without serious consequences to her. And as you gentlemen suggest, the guy probably knew that and was taking advantage of it.
I did, but the girl was small and here butthole to tight ;)
Speaking about low season, I've been there a few times in September. I agree the number of good looking ones are lower than in November, but so are the number of mongers. So competition for the good ones isn't too hard. If I can get 40 stunners I can bang instead of 200, I still haven't got time to do them all. And as you say hotels come cheaper. Though it can be bloody hot and humid I love low season.Have you tried fingers first? Have you used lube? Did you massaged her butt hole? With that you might make the tightest butthole useable. Kiss her earlap or neck while you insert your dick, that will relax her. Do, not move too fast always be prepared to stop if it's hurt her. Wait until she starts to move, etc.
About June vs September. I believe that September might be better, because girls are already back in Pattaya. I have the feeling they leave p4p for vacation end of April or May. They stay at home in June and July and when money runs out, they come back to work. Just a thought.
But, I believe in logic of the market. If demand (mongers) are low, the offer will be low (girls). If the demand is high there will be more girls. I doubt that a stunner will lower her prices in low season. She will have enough sponsors who send money so she has no need to go under her limit.
Ugly ones earn not much anyway. Maybe one or two ST at beachroad. In low season it might not worth to work at beach road, so they might do another job. In high season there might be higher competition, but I can say that I had better looking girls in high season. I already enjoy to see beautiful girls. Don't need neccessarily take them for a ST/LT. I enjoy to see pretty girls like I enjoy to see other pretty things. In high season there is more fooder for the eyes.
HotShaneHot
02-19-10, 23:32
Hi
While I was there from 29/12/09 until the 23/01/10 I paid the following
FL beach Road 500ST + 100 (room)
BG 500ST +250BF
BG 1000LT + 300BF
Soi 6 700ST + 300BF/ROOM (6 different girls)
GG 1000LT + 600BF (baby dolls) (got this rate many times)
GG 1000LT + 300BF (after 0130am)(baby dolls)(got this rate many times)
GG 1500LT + 500BF (Mistys)
These figures do not include drinks for myself, Lady drinks, food or any gifts for the ladies.
I am happy with what I paid and the prices were fair.
Just think of trying to have the same fun back at home for these prices I doubt very much that you can.Hi ThaiLearner,
Could you tell me where you did get a room for 100 bart for the fL from beach road.
Like what soi and name of place.
thank you
I think that after all my questions and request for help I owe you something back, to the one of you first-timers like me as well as to veterans who may enjoy some talking about our main topics
I kindly ask to avoid any comment only to the one of you who think they can judge me a cheap charlie. All opinions expressed come from a working class guy trying to get the best from his only hard-earned holiday.
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Hello SH,
See you made good on your promise to me on reporting back from your trip.
Glad some of what we taught you sank in but sad that you were not totally comfortable there, but it's your 1st time there so need to give it a chance to fit in. Pattaya could be a bit intimidating to a newbie.
No need to fear from me if you think of yourselve as a "cheap charlie", trust me you are not ,as you are just trying to play the game smart and get the correct prices--nothing wrong with that at all.
A cheap charlie in my books is someone who knows the rates and try to push it lower to some ridiculous number and if not successful will blame the ladies for not accepting the low offer , and then the drinks ,barfines etc.
And finally, you and I are in the same boat as I too have to work hard for my meager wages just to afford the occasional mongering vacation to get away from reality of work and life at home.
Shark
Hi ThaiLearner,
Could you tell me where you did get a room for 100 bart for the fL from beach road.
Like what soi and name of place.
thank you
I would imagine the answer to be PS Guest House in Soi Yamato. This is the nearest to the beach road, although there are others on 2nd road and beyond.
This is just a description of negotiations with a taxi guy to take me to Pattaya from BKK. I always wondered what this would be like, and so I suppose someone else on this board might benefit slightly from this. My next report is the details of what actually happened in Pattaya.
My plan was ambitious - something I was all too aware of as I crafted it. The plan was to get off work at 3pm, then hightail it over to Ekkamai and catch a bus down to Pattaya in time to meet my gogo girl before she goes to work. So if I arrived at 5:30, that would give us two hours before she had to run off to check in at the bar. Then the evening is free for me to recuperate a little, then hit Roxy for round 2 with Om (girl with the superb ass from a few nights ago). As you can see, timing was crucial here - I had to get to Pattaya in time for my girl to get to me before the gogo bar opened, or else I would be stuck with her the whole night.
But work proved itself reliable and ran late, so I got out at 3:50. No way I'm getting to Pattaya by 5:30 now. In fact, we're looking at a 7pm arrival. So I grabbed a taxi down there. I got into a regular BKK meter taxi and told the guy I wanted to go to Pattaya. He chuckled and said something in Thai. Me no understand, and he no speak English. So he pulls out his calculator and types in 1700. I balk, grab the calculator and type in 1000. He laughs long and heartily, and then counters with 1500. I do a Beavis hee-hee, type in 1200 and I say that HE pays the tolls. He is now confused by tolls, so he calls his friend and gives me the phone. His friend asks me how much I want to pay, and I tell him 1200, but he has to pay the tolls. The guy says no. So I said ok, I will pay the tolls, but that's it. The guys says no, 1500. So I say, ok, tell the taxi guy to take me to the BTS - I will go to Ekkamai and take a bus. All of a sudden, 1200 + tolls seems pretty good, so we agree. But he says that this current taxi guy doesn't know his way to Pattaya, and we need to make a switch. So I tell him to be quick, and 10 minutes later I am in a different taxi with a new driver.
This guy seems older and more experienced. He turns to me and starts a new negotiation - how much you say? He hands me a piece of paper and a pen, so I write down the following: 1200 (tolls = 150). He looks at this, mumbles to himself, and counters with the following on the piece of paper: 1300 total. I was about to protest, saying that 1200+tolls comes out to more than 1300, but I agreed. So that was it - 1300 total payment for door-to-door service. It was a little expensive (I know you can get some taxis to go down there for 1000), but given my intense need to copulate, I just let the 300 baht go.
2 hours later, 6:15pm, I was in Pattaya showered and waiting for my girl. To Be Continued.
I arranged to be picked up by Pattaya Taxi. They pick you up at the airport. A guy has your name on a sign at the meeting area near arrival area exit 3 and 4. He takes the bag and we go to the parking garage. He pays the garage bill. He drives at 120 to 140 KPH and pays all of the tolls on the motorway. As we approach Pattaya, he goes around a barrier to take advantage of the highway extension. He then takes the back road that comes out on Sukhumvit near Central road.
I used to fight with taxis and tolls and all of the other BS. Now I just send them an email and they take care of the rest with no negotiation and no BS. http://www.pattaya-taxi.com/ I always give the driver a few hundred Bt for good service, they have to live too.
Member #3428
02-20-10, 06:42
I used to fight with taxis and tolls and all of the other BS. Now I just send them an email and they take care of the rest with no negotiation and no BS. http://www.pattaya-taxi.com/
Same with Mr. T Taxi I think.... they are same price and do the same thing... a lot easier way of dealing with things.
Have the boys left yet?
Nope.
I'm afraid they're going to be around for a while making things a bit more difficult for the old guys. :(
http://www.pattayaone.net/pattaya-news/13937/thousands-of-us-marines-converge-on-pattaya-as-part-of-%e2%80%9ccobra-gold%e2%80%9d/
ThaiLearner
02-20-10, 09:20
Hi ThaiLearner,
Could you tell me where you did get a room for 100 bart for the fL from beach road.
Like what soi and name of place.
thank you
Sorry don't know the name of the place it is on the left hand side from beach road near the beach road end on soi 13/1 or soi Yamato.
They are just short time rooms and I wouldn't want to stay there.
I am now back in the USA having to listen to morons like Mitt Romney and Dick Cheney. Why do I live here again? Below is my second to last report before I sign off. I need to re-focus my mind on my real life, so that I can make some money, earn some vacation time and get back to LOS and the important things that reside there.
Speaking of LOS, I think we should drop that acronym and refer to it instead as LOL. Land of Legs.
So I returned to Pattaya (this time getting down there by bus) and I stayed at the Nova Platinum. This place is great for its location (walking distance to walking street), and its price, but there are some definite drawbacks. First, the new building is a shithole. I mean, it is new, but it really sucks. The elevator in particular is very annoying indeed. It wont close - you press the 'door close' button, the door closes half way, then opens up again. You repeat this 4-5 times until it finally closes. This is compounded by the fact that the hotel is frequented by brain-dead morons who press both the Up and Down button when they want to go down. Their theory, I presume, is that when you press two buttons, the elevator will come twice as quickly. As a result, the elevator stops at every floor on the way up and every floor on the way down, and at each stop, the door does its stupid, stupid me-no-close game.
Second, if you get pissed off with the new building (as I did) and request a room in the old building, DEMAND a room on a lower floor. Last week I got a room on the top floor and there was no water all night. Imagine having just had three hours of sex, smothered in pussy juice, her covered in your ejaculate, the taste of gogo girl butt hole in your mouth...and there is no water...at all. They claimed this was a one-time thing, but I know it wasn't - I remember something like this the last time I stayed here six months ago. Anyway, I was eventually moved to the third floor which is perfectly fine.
This time, I insisted on a 3rd floor room, which they hummed and hawed about, but finally gave it up. I showered, ran over to Marine seafood and had some noodles, and then got cracking on my assignment for the night. Tonight I was going to attempt the impossible, at least for the one-pop king that is Kumbu. My plan (dare I be so bold?) was to hit a gogo girl for ST, and then go back for another girl for LT. I had tried this the other night, but it ended in failure with a menses incident, so I was hoping to strike the double tonight. I couldn't believe my mind was hatching such a devious plot, which undoubtedly would lead to some serious trauma for my body. Ah yes, the old mind-body rivalry: the mind always wants more than the body can deliver, but not tonight! My body has been coddled for nigh 40 years, it's time for it to pay its dues.
First stop: Happy Agogo. Dropped three drinks while watching the girls - not a single one totally did it for me. The usual suspects were there: #46, #61, #71, #77 all had nice asses, but for whatever reason, I just didn't feel the groove.
One of the problems was the feet-hands thing. When I get into a bar, I first try to find a spot that suits my style. I avoid sitting on a stool at the stage, as I feel that gives me too much exposure. So I perch myself in the back where I can see everything.
The first thing I look for are pretty legs. That usually narrows the list of girls to 7-10. Next, skinny asses are excluded, leaving 0-3 girls. On the basis of this, I picked the aforementioned list of girls. I then usually try to pick a target on the basis of face, general overall proportions, perceived attitude, and some other, unusual criteria.
I've taken to looking at their feet and fingers for clues as to their breeding and suitability. The chewed finger-nails is a definite no-no (ruled out #77). I also don't care for black nail polish - I fear it is hiding something (#61 is dropped from the list). I look for well-tended fingernails, preferably slightly grown out; long slender fingers are preferred to short stubs; and if I can discern it, I look for how pudgy the palm is. I found, albeit in my entirely unscientific way, that pudgy palms means hidden reserves of fat in unwanted places. I was too far away from the stage to see these things, so I turned my attention south.
I look at their toes: do they sit snugly into the shoe, or do they spill out in all directions, belying their farm-girl roots (#61)? It's incredible how common that is. Are the toes well-tended? I shy away from the bulbous toes, only for aesthetic reasons (I don't have any theories about hidden dangers of bulbous toes). Anyway, that left #46. I had been visiting Happy Agogo almost nightly for the last week, and I can say that #46 was anything but. Happy, that is. She had her regular scowl on her face that said nothing except fuck off. So I fucked off.
Next was Babydolls, where Nam #55 (X-men) from the other night was waiting in prey for me. But when I walked in, I spotted a superb ass and leg set, #54. She had a cute face too with a superb, happy smile. We locked eye gaze as soon as I sat down, and she froze entirely - stopped dancing completely. She looked at me and I at her, and after a few moments, she slowly started to move backwards, as if she was coming to sit next to me. But just then, #55 comes out of no where with a big grin on her little face and plunks herself down next to me. #54 sees this and her face sinks, her shoulders slouch and she turns away. Crap.
Anyway, I buy #55 a drink, just to be courteous, we small talk a while, and then I tell her that I will not BF her today, ok? She agreed - without ever speaking a word about it, we both remembered the X-men incident from the other night and agreed to let things sit.
The dance shift ended and she goes dancing, to my relief. Then all hell breaks loose. A group of young (obviously) American (obviously) military guys storm into the place, and suddenly the place is a zoo - screaming everywhere, ping pong balls flying in every direction, lady drinks being gulped at a feverish pace. At one point, this guy sheds all his clothing (I mean, bare nekkid) and jumps into the jacuzzi with the two girls and starts whacking them with the neoprene hose, spanking their booties, etc. His little dingaling was flapping around like a little shoelace hanging from porch roof it was kid of cute actually. He was obviously drunk coz he had neither an ounce of a boner going nor an ounce of shame about himself. Strange, but the girls encouraged him, and the staff watched passively as if they had seen this movie many times before. He must have dropped a serious tip for them to allow that.
Anyway, the place is so raucous, I decide I had better get cracking. So I tell mama san that it is time to feed the beast, and that she should bring #54 to The Kumbu, which she promptly does.
Name: Nan (rhymes with pan)...age 22...from Isaan...lady drink arrives...been in Pattaya 1 year....worked at this bar 4 months...can do ST no problem...ok, BF and off to change.
Paid the expensive 700B BF, walked out with a tasty little treat on my arm. She has a delightful high pitched voice, large soft eyes, and was wearing a striped white and blue tank top with a jean mini skirt. Oh who am I kidding, she had legs and an ass that would stop a tank in its tracks, that's why she was walking back to my hotel with me.
So we get into the hotel and some small talk ensues. As she talks I look at her face. While at the club, it had been a remarkably pretty face - her eyes seemed very seductive while fun at the same time. Her smile was one of care-free frivolity, and that is always a beautiful thing to see in anyone, especially a gogo girl you wish to bone. But sitting in my room there, all I saw was a deep, enduring melancholy. She was subdued, a little quiet, perhaps a little scared, I don't know. She looked down at her hands while we talked, occasionally looking up with her now-sad eyes. Large as they were, all I saw in them was what I wished not to see. Nonetheless, she was definitely *not* a downer - she giggled and chatted, but all that seemed to be an attempt to hide the underlying sadness that could not be hidden.
The sex that came next was physically good, albeit tinged with the knowledge of what I had just seen. A reasonable BBBJ, sex in several positions, lots of groping of her ass and legs, you know, the usual routine. Her ass was indeed superb, her breasts were far more substantial (and firm) than I had anticipated a definite and unexpected bonus. And I enjoyed playing with her legs for a good half hour all very, very pleasant things. When she left with 1500B in her purse, she did not look back, nor did I expect her to. It was a deal that had been expertly consummated. An odd emptiness filled Kumbu, not particularly discomforting, nor distressing, but just odd.
Exhausted, I had to psych myself up for the next round. Remember, my plan was to do the double-dip this fine night, and I could not let the damned emotions of the girl get in the way. The double dip is *SO* not Kumbu's style, but what the hell, I had to give it a shot. So I thought to myself who I would like to bag tonight. One person that was definitely not on the list was the girl from the other night who said 'I lub you.' That needed to end. Instead, I decided to hit a couple of gogo bars to get the juices flowing again, and then go over to Roxy to pick up Om. I had sent her a text earlier saying I would come over, so I was hoping she would wait for me.
So I did Airport (bust), then Baccara (nothing there), then Happy again (nice bum jiggling, but that's it), and then on to Roxy. I was hoping Om had waited for me...and wait she did. I got there just after midnight, and all the girls whooed when I got in. They had all been discussing whether this guy would turn up or not. Apparently there was a little gogo girl pool going on and the odds were 3-1 that I would not turn up. So some girls whooed in joy when I got there, but most were a little pissed off coz they just lost cash on me. Plus the drama had been compounded by the fact that a Japanese guy had tried to BF Om before I got there, and she had politely said no. The Mama San gave her hell for this, saying that if Kumbu does not materialize, she pays the BF out of her own pocket, plus 1000B fine for saying no. Wow. Anyway, because I did turn up, all was forgiven, and I was now suddenly the treat of the place. They all thought I was such a stand-up guy for keeping my word. Says a lot about us as a group, doesn't it? We will say anything to anyone for any reason.
Slight change in topic, but it will connect back to my primary report. Have you ever been in a gogo bar and you see a guy walk in with another pretty girl? I always wondered what that was about. Is he trying to show her what a good gogo girl looks like? Is he trying to get her to pick a girl for a threesome? Or what? Well, tonight I found out at least one reason for that. After I paid the BF and we were walking out, Om tells me she wants to go to Super Girl and Super Baby to see the places. I ask why, and she tells me that she wants to move to one of those places next month. So she wants to scout them out, and because she works during the hours that the other places are open, it is really hard for her to get over there and check them out.
I tell her that I cannot go to Supergirl because I BFed a girl from there, and if she sees me with another girl, she will flip out. Om pretends to be upset over this, but understands, and so we go to Superbaby. The place was kind of dead at that hour (six mediocre girls, 12 customers, not much happening), but it was still nice to share a drink with Om in an unusual environment. Twenty minutes, in as I was paying, the place filled up in the most bizarre manner - a troupe of Chinese tourists walked in - maybe 60-70 of them, and packed the place from top to bottom. They were regular Chinese tourists, dressed in jeans and wearing golf hats carrying their humungous fanny packs (you know, the ones the size of a backpack, except it is stuck to the hip!). They were of all ages - young teens all the way up to grandmothers. They all sat down, pulled out their packed dinners and started eating right there in the gogo bar. The bar was cool with this because every one of them ordered a drink. Very strange sight indeed.
Next, back to hotel and the regular four hours of heavy petting, groping, kissing, BBBJ (not to cum), HJ (not to cum), and covered sex. I was surprisingly aroused, given my earlier ejaculation, so maybe I am not the one-shot wonder I thought I was. Om, on the other hand, showed absolutely no variation from her previous nights' routine - she lay there and did relatively little, offered a timid BJ, and basically looked pretty the whole time. I was beginning to tire of her. Pretty as she was, beautiful as that ass may be, I really wanted some umph in her, which she seemed not to have. So we finished, showered and slept.
In the morning, I woke up before she did as I needed to get back to BKK for an afternoon meeting. When I awoke, I looked over at her sleeping face, lying peacefully with her head on the pillow. As I looked at her profile, I was surprised by how much she resembled my mother. Oh shit. Are you kidding me, Kumbu? Another issue to deal with now.
I am now back in the USA having to listen to morons like Mitt Romney and Dick Cheney. Why do I live here again? Below is my second to last report before I sign off. I need to re-focus my mind on my real life, so that I can make some money, earn some vacation time and get back to LOS and the important things that reside there.
Speaking of LOS, I think we should drop that acronym and refer to it instead as LOL. Land of Legs.
So I returned to Pattaya (this time getting down there by bus) and I stayed at the Nova Platinum. This place is great for its location (walking distance to walking street), and its price, but there are some definite drawbacks. First, the new building is a shithole. I mean, it is new, but it really sucks. The elevator in particular is very annoying indeed. It wont close - you press the 'door close' button, the door closes half way, then opens up again. You repeat this 4-5 times until it finally closes. This is compounded by the fact that the hotel is frequented by brain-dead morons who press both the Up and Down button when they want to go down. Their theory, I presume, is that when you press two buttons, the elevator will come twice as quickly. As a result, the elevator stops at every floor on the way up and every floor on the way down, and at each stop, the door does its stupid, stupid me-no-close game.
Second, if you get pissed off with the new building (as I did) and request a room in the old building, DEMAND a room on a lower floor. Last week I got a room on the top floor and there was no water all night. Imagine having just had three hours of sex, smothered in pussy juice, her covered in your ejaculate, the taste of gogo girl butt hole in your mouth...and there is no water...at all. They claimed this was a one-time thing, but I know it wasn't - I remember something like this the last time I stayed here six months ago. Anyway, I was eventually moved to the third floor which is perfectly fine.
This time, I insisted on a 3rd floor room, which they hummed and hawed about, but finally gave it up. I showered, ran over to Marine seafood and had some noodles, and then got cracking on my assignment for the night. Tonight I was going to attempt the impossible, at least for the one-pop king that is Kumbu. My plan (dare I be so bold?) was to hit a gogo girl for ST, and then go back for another girl for LT. I had tried this the other night, but it ended in failure with a menses incident, so I was hoping to strike the double tonight. I couldn't believe my mind was hatching such a devious plot, which undoubtedly would lead to some serious trauma for my body. Ah yes, the old mind-body rivalry: the mind always wants more than the body can deliver, but not tonight! My body has been coddled for nigh 40 years, it's time for it to pay its dues.
First stop: Happy Agogo. Dropped three drinks while watching the girls - not a single one totally did it for me. The usual suspects were there: #46, #61, #71, #77 all had nice asses, but for whatever reason, I just didn't feel the groove.
One of the problems was the feet-hands thing. When I get into a bar, I first try to find a spot that suits my style. I avoid sitting on a stool at the stage, as I feel that gives me too much exposure. So I perch myself in the back where I can see everything.
The first thing I look for are pretty legs. That usually narrows the list of girls to 7-10. Next, skinny asses are excluded, leaving 0-3 girls. On the basis of this, I picked the aforementioned list of girls. I then usually try to pick a target on the basis of face, general overall proportions, perceived attitude, and some other, unusual criteria.
I've taken to looking at their feet and fingers for clues as to their breeding and suitability. The chewed finger-nails is a definite no-no (ruled out #77). I also don't care for black nail polish - I fear it is hiding something (#61 is dropped from the list). I look for well-tended fingernails, preferably slightly grown out; long slender fingers are preferred to short stubs; and if I can discern it, I look for how pudgy the palm is. I found, albeit in my entirely unscientific way, that pudgy palms means hidden reserves of fat in unwanted places. I was too far away from the stage to see these things, so I turned my attention south.
I look at their toes: do they sit snugly into the shoe, or do they spill out in all directions, belying their farm-girl roots (#61)? It's incredible how common that is. Are the toes well-tended? I shy away from the bulbous toes, only for aesthetic reasons (I don't have any theories about hidden dangers of bulbous toes). Anyway, that left #46. I had been visiting Happy Agogo almost nightly for the last week, and I can say that #46 was anything but. Happy, that is. She had her regular scowl on her face that said nothing except fuck off. So I fucked off.
Next was Babydolls, where Nam #55 (X-men) from the other night was waiting in prey for me. But when I walked in, I spotted a superb ass and leg set, #54. She had a cute face too with a superb, happy smile. We locked eye gaze as soon as I sat down, and she froze entirely - stopped dancing completely. She looked at me and I at her, and after a few moments, she slowly started to move backwards, as if she was coming to sit next to me. But just then, #55 comes out of no where with a big grin on her little face and plunks herself down next to me. #54 sees this and her face sinks, her shoulders slouch and she turns away. Crap.
Anyway, I buy #55 a drink, just to be courteous, we small talk a while, and then I tell her that I will not BF her today, ok? She agreed - without ever speaking a word about it, we both remembered the X-men incident from the other night and agreed to let things sit.
The dance shift ended and she goes dancing, to my relief. Then all hell breaks loose. A group of young (obviously) American (obviously) military guys storm into the place, and suddenly the place is a zoo - screaming everywhere, ping pong balls flying in every direction, lady drinks being gulped at a feverish pace. At one point, this guy sheds all his clothing (I mean, bare nekkid) and jumps into the jacuzzi with the two girls and starts whacking them with the neoprene hose, spanking their booties, etc. His little dingaling was flapping around like a little shoelace hanging from porch roof it was kid of cute actually. He was obviously drunk coz he had neither an ounce of a boner going nor an ounce of shame about himself. Strange, but the girls encouraged him, and the staff watched passively as if they had seen this movie many times before. He must have dropped a serious tip for them to allow that.
Anyway, the place is so raucous, I decide I had better get cracking. So I tell mama san that it is time to feed the beast, and that she should bring #54 to The Kumbu, which she promptly does.
Name: Nan (rhymes with pan)...age 22...from Isaan...lady drink arrives...been in Pattaya 1 year....worked at this bar 4 months...can do ST no problem...ok, BF and off to change.
Paid the expensive 700B BF, walked out with a tasty little treat on my arm. She has a delightful high pitched voice, large soft eyes, and was wearing a striped white and blue tank top with a jean mini skirt. Oh who am I kidding, she had legs and an ass that would stop a tank in its tracks, that's why she was walking back to my hotel with me.
So we get into the hotel and some small talk ensues. As she talks I look at her face. While at the club, it had been a remarkably pretty face - her eyes seemed very seductive while fun at the same time. Her smile was one of care-free frivolity, and that is always a beautiful thing to see in anyone, especially a gogo girl you wish to bone. But sitting in my room there, all I saw was a deep, enduring melancholy. She was subdued, a little quiet, perhaps a little scared, I don't know. She looked down at her hands while we talked, occasionally looking up with her now-sad eyes. Large as they were, all I saw in them was what I wished not to see. Nonetheless, she was definitely *not* a downer - she giggled and chatted, but all that seemed to be an attempt to hide the underlying sadness that could not be hidden.
The sex that came next was physically good, albeit tinged with the knowledge of what I had just seen. A reasonable BBBJ, sex in several positions, lots of groping of her ass and legs, you know, the usual routine. Her ass was indeed superb, her breasts were far more substantial (and firm) than I had anticipated a definite and unexpected bonus. And I enjoyed playing with her legs for a good half hour all very, very pleasant things. When she left with 1500B in her purse, she did not look back, nor did I expect her to. It was a deal that had been expertly consummated. An odd emptiness filled Kumbu, not particularly discomforting, nor distressing, but just odd.
Exhausted, I had to psych myself up for the next round. Remember, my plan was to do the double-dip this fine night, and I could not let the damned emotions of the girl get in the way. The double dip is *SO* not Kumbu's style, but what the hell, I had to give it a shot. So I thought to myself who I would like to bag tonight. One person that was definitely not on the list was the girl from the other night who said 'I lub you.' That needed to end. Instead, I decided to hit a couple of gogo bars to get the juices flowing again, and then go over to Roxy to pick up Om. I had sent her a text earlier saying I would come over, so I was hoping she would wait for me.
So I did Airport (bust), then Baccara (nothing there), then Happy again (nice bum jiggling, but that's it), and then on to Roxy. I was hoping Om had waited for me...and wait she did. I got there just after midnight, and all the girls whooed when I got in. They had all been discussing whether this guy would turn up or not. Apparently there was a little gogo girl pool going on and the odds were 3-1 that I would not turn up. So some girls whooed in joy when I got there, but most were a little pissed off coz they just lost cash on me. Plus the drama had been compounded by the fact that a Japanese guy had tried to BF Om before I got there, and she had politely said no. The Mama San gave her hell for this, saying that if Kumbu does not materialize, she pays the BF out of her own pocket, plus 1000B fine for saying no. Wow. Anyway, because I did turn up, all was forgiven, and I was now suddenly the treat of the place. They all thought I was such a stand-up guy for keeping my word. Says a lot about us as a group, doesn't it? We will say anything to anyone for any reason.
Slight change in topic, but it will connect back to my primary report. Have you ever been in a gogo bar and you see a guy walk in with another pretty girl? I always wondered what that was about. Is he trying to show her what a good gogo girl looks like? Is he trying to get her to pick a girl for a threesome? Or what? Well, tonight I found out at least one reason for that. After I paid the BF and we were walking out, Om tells me she wants to go to Super Girl and Super Baby to see the places. I ask why, and she tells me that she wants to move to one of those places next month. So she wants to scout them out, and because she works during the hours that the other places are open, it is really hard for her to get over there and check them out.
I tell her that I cannot go to Supergirl because I BFed a girl from there, and if she sees me with another girl, she will flip out. Om pretends to be upset over this, but understands, and so we go to Superbaby. The place was kind of dead at that hour (six mediocre girls, 12 customers, not much happening), but it was still nice to share a drink with Om in an unusual environment. Twenty minutes, in as I was paying, the place filled up in the most bizarre manner - a troupe of Chinese tourists walked in - maybe 60-70 of them, and packed the place from top to bottom. They were regular Chinese tourists, dressed in jeans and wearing golf hats carrying their humungous fanny packs (you know, the ones the size of a backpack, except it is stuck to the hip!). They were of all ages - young teens all the way up to grandmothers. They all sat down, pulled out their packed dinners and started eating right there in the gogo bar. The bar was cool with this because every one of them ordered a drink. Very strange sight indeed.
Next, back to hotel and the regular four hours of heavy petting, groping, kissing, BBBJ (not to cum), HJ (not to cum), and covered sex. I was surprisingly aroused, given my earlier ejaculation, so maybe I am not the one-shot wonder I thought I was. Om, on the other hand, showed absolutely no variation from her previous nights' routine - she lay there and did relatively little, offered a timid BJ, and basically looked pretty the whole time. I was beginning to tire of her. Pretty as she was, beautiful as that ass may be, I really wanted some umph in her, which she seemed not to have. So we finished, showered and slept.
In the morning, I woke up before she did as I needed to get back to BKK for an afternoon meeting. When I awoke, I looked over at her sleeping face, lying peacefully with her head on the pillow. As I looked at her profile, I was surprised by how much she resembled my mother. Oh shit. Are you kidding me, Kumbu? Another issue to deal with now.I have been thinking about this before and after reading this I am again: has anyone ever written a book of real life stories of mongering and life in thailand? And I don't mean the beach but more like kumbus report in book form? I think it would sell well - especially if the names and places were real. Would be very interesting read.
ThaiLearner
02-20-10, 12:34
Hi
Good Tr thanks
On my last trip I have BF girl from Baby Doll and she wanted to go to other go gos to look as she wanted to have a night out. She would even speak to the other girls and buy them a drink even though she didn't want to go with them.
I think it is just some where different to go instead of having to work 7 days a week
Sexual Healing
02-20-10, 12:50
Hello SH,
See you made good on your promise to me on reporting back from your trip.
Glad some of what we taught you sank in but sad that you were not totally comfortable there, but it's your 1st time there so need to give it a chance to fit in. Pattaya could be a bit intimidating to a newbie.
SharkWell, always keep my promise. Thank for your sympathy.
As I said, I am conscious Pattaya is still best bet around, and it was ok, just did not make me holler, compared to my other experiences in fkk in Germany.
Of course, it is impossible to make a real confront in terms of babes (some stunners from east europe there, tiny short babes with stuffed bras here), rate (fkk about 50 euros but s/t only, while Pattaya s/t is 11-22 euros) and above all costs (train ticket vs plane ticket, entrance fees vs barfine, etc), BUT what let me down in Pattaya was poor service that I got from many babes (most of them no french kiss, no cum in mouth or face, no anal).
I was under the impressrion that you could do anything you want with them before going but I found some shy ones, who seemed not properly trained to what they were at and this could add some spice to the experience in a way, except that they are skilled enough to draw money from your pocket then.
So, sometimes I missed a good old Polish or Czech prostitute giving me a deep french kiss and a master BBBJ, as they do in fkk. Problem there is that c. I. M. Is an extra, anal is an extra, so the bill grows fat in the end if you want to rock, but then again in Pattaya too not all girls give those services. Yeah, you can't always get what you want, especially if you don't carry stacks of cash.
So we are back to the conclusion that maybe still better Pattaya because at least cheaper. I need to try some go-go pros (which I did not this time because pussy was seemingly everywhere and did not feel like I NEEDED to go there) and then I will tell you my final verdict. Who knows when.
Away Too Long
02-20-10, 14:12
I usually get the Ekamai bus to and from Pattaya. This year I'll likely be making that trip twice. Something I never remember to find out before it's too late and I'm already about to leave is the best place to catch a baht bus to the Pattaya bus station? Is there a spot where there are regular buses going that way, and a standard fare?
It's a small thing, but I don't mind a short walk and a few minutes wait to save a hundred baht, and it annoys me that I end up paying maybe 150 or 200 baht just to get to the bus station, which is more than the BKK/Pattaya bus journey itself. Personally, one motorcycle taxi journey in my lifetime was enough for me, so I always go by baht bus.
By the way, does anybody know if there's a difference between the two counters at Ekamai that have "Pattaya" written above them? There's one facing outwards on the left hand side as you go in, and another on the right that faces inwards to the left. I've always taken the one on the right.
My plan (dare I be so bold?) was to hit a gogo girl for ST, and then go back for another girl for LT.
Yet another really interesting post, thanks for that one.
Yes, the plan.... I can relate. Actually my very first experience in Thailand was exactly that, tho not planned. First I "popped my cherry" (first ever P4P experience) at a massage place (at a hotel in Chiang Mai) and later ran into some Norwegian guy at a bar, hung out with him the rest of the night and ended up getting picked up by the girl who had attached herself to HIM when he went away to go tell his friend where we were. Thats not as bad as it sounds -- he left for over half an hour and by the time he got back she'd switched allegiances. I was resistant at first but she was pretty good at what she did, and me pretty new, so... Oh and he just got a laugh out of it when he got back. I'll never forget the really corny line he told me there at that girly bar near Tha Pae gate, with a total straight face "Over here, we are like kings."
Anyway... when you mentioned being a ST man -- in practice I am. It's not necessarily what I want to be. Last week for example I was in a bar (in Phnom Penh) and spotted a girl who was just delicious. My feeling was that I really wanted long time with her. And I knew how it'd go. A girl that hot, what happens is that I will start to get into it and then blow my load too fast, so the experience is really short, and if it's a ST the whole thing can be done in less than half an hour. So I'm not really getting a very full experience. Well thats what happened with this one, pretty much. Before the deed, she was pretty keen on only doing ST, but after talking a bit to her realized she actually would be flexible, it was only gonna take sweetening the pot a bit to make it happen. And then we got it going, and it was nice, and sure enough I came pretty damn fast. Now my strong feeling earlier with this one was that I'd want to have her long time and really enjoy her thoroughly. But after doing the deed, a very different feeling comes over me, the Garbo feeling. I vont to be alone. So she hangs out and watches music videos awhile, and after a half hour of that she asks if she can go. And I say, sure I'm tired, and feel relieved even. Didn't feel like having another go, and was pretty sure it'd be awhile again before I would.
In a nutshell, this is the problem. There's a part of me that wants to do long times, and especially with girls like this. But then there's this other part of me, and it might be a physical or chemical thing, that just always has this mood when the deed is done -- the mood to just want to be alone and get the girl out of there. But I know for sure that it's those extra go's around (middle of the night, or the morning after) that are often the best. But getting to that morning after gets harder and harder. The Garbo effect always seems to win out, and now I wonder if that's just how I am now, if I'm a total ST guy now.
There must be others out there with these kinds of conflicted urges. I wonder how you deal with them.
I was on a good dose of Apcalis that night too, so that definitely wasn't the problem.
Redfield10
02-20-10, 16:40
I feel the same way. If I was still in my 20's, I'm sure going two or three rounds in an 8 hour time span would be no big deal, but I"m far from my 20's now.
I tend to select the hot women that still have a pleasing personality, a nice smile, and a nice little laugh. But after I get them back. Start the kissing, fondling, etc. It only takes 10 to 15 minutes to get to the point where, if I like them, I'm excited and Junior is ready to cum. After taht happens, I'm tired, it's not like there's an emotional connection. Because I don't know the girl at all. So it's "well, you're done. Go to sleep".
So, I think especially as we get older it's a natural thing and unless you want to get the know the girl and keep her around the next day or two or more. It's best (at least for me it's best) to just do the short time and then get some peaceful rest. Just get her number and you can always see her again.
Just my 10 baht.
Yet another really interesting post, thanks for that one.
Yes, the plan.... I can relate. Actually my very first experience in Thailand was exactly that, tho not planned. First I "popped my cherry" (first ever P4P experience) at a massage place (at a hotel in Chiang Mai) and later ran into some Norwegian guy at a bar, hung out with him the rest of the night and ended up getting picked up by the girl who had attached herself to HIM when he went away to go tell his friend where we were. Thats not as bad as it sounds -- he left for over half an hour and by the time he got back she'd switched allegiances. I was resistant at first but she was pretty good at what she did, and me pretty new, so... Oh and he just got a laugh out of it when he got back. I'll never forget the really corny line he told me there at that girly bar near Tha Pae gate, with a total straight face "Over here, we are like kings."
Anyway... when you mentioned being a ST man -- in practice I am. It's not necessarily what I want to be. Last week for example I was in a bar (in Phnom Penh) and spotted a girl who was just delicious. My feeling was that I really wanted long time with her. And I knew how it'd go. A girl that hot, what happens is that I will start to get into it and then blow my load too fast, so the experience is really short, and if it's a ST the whole thing can be done in less than half an hour. So I'm not really getting a very full experience. Well thats what happened with this one, pretty much. Before the deed, she was pretty keen on only doing ST, but after talking a bit to her realized she actually would be flexible, it was only gonna take sweetening the pot a bit to make it happen. And then we got it going, and it was nice, and sure enough I came pretty damn fast. Now my strong feeling earlier with this one was that I'd want to have her long time and really enjoy her thoroughly. But after doing the deed, a very different feeling comes over me, the Garbo feeling. I vont to be alone. So she hangs out and watches music videos awhile, and after a half hour of that she asks if she can go. And I say, sure I'm tired, and feel relieved even. Didn't feel like having another go, and was pretty sure it'd be awhile again before I would.
In a nutshell, this is the problem. There's a part of me that wants to do long times, and especially with girls like this. But then there's this other part of me, and it might be a physical or chemical thing, that just always has this mood when the deed is done -- the mood to just want to be alone and get the girl out of there. But I know for sure that it's those extra go's around (middle of the night, or the morning after) that are often the best. But getting to that morning after gets harder and harder. The Garbo effect always seems to win out, and now I wonder if that's just how I am now, if I'm a total ST guy now.
There must be others out there with these kinds of conflicted urges. I wonder how you deal with them.
I was on a good dose of Apcalis that night too, so that definitely wasn't the problem.
Cunning Stunt
02-21-10, 04:33
I feel the same way. If I was still in my 20's, I'm sure going two or three rounds in an 8 hour time span would be no big deal, but I"m far from my 20's now.
Me too. When I was younger I would never dream of taking a girl ST. It had to be LT or nothing and LT would often mean days or even weeks, if I really liked her. Now, unless I really connect with a girl, ST is de rigeur, and I seldom ask a girl to spend the night. As you say, if she is a keeper, you can always get her CP No and see her the next day.
Also, unlike when I was a sprog, these days I prefer caffeine over sex in the morning so unless she can make a mean latte, I dont want her around when I wake up;).
Funny how a person changes as they age.
Member #3428
02-21-10, 04:55
Funny how a person changes as they age.
Please don't let me grow old !!!!
Nothing is finer after a night of sex then the roll her over and have bouts of 2 am and 4 am sex... then having a nice cup of coffee or tea while getting a BBBJ just starts my day... Followed by watching them naked ironing my shirts and a quick last parting shot before going off to work...
Now having the same girl around all the time is a pain in the arse... but building a stable that you train and educate to your satisfaction is always enjoyable...
Nothing is finer after a night of sex then the roll her over and have bouts of 2 am and 4 am sex... then having a nice cup of coffee or tea while getting a BBBJ just starts my day... Followed by watching them naked ironing my shirts and a quick last parting shot before going off to work...
So it sounds like the solution to my problem is... buying an ironing board? ;)
Member #3428
02-21-10, 06:42
So it sounds like the solution to my problem is... buying an ironing board? ;)
Man you should try it, the most I let my girls wear in the apt or the hotel when I travel are panties (when they do not have other accessories on). Just watching them serving me drinks and ironing clothes and such works better then any enhancers for me. Afternoon watching them prance around.... shit... game on baby....
Richmond72
02-21-10, 06:48
Long time lurker here. Just had to make my first post on this site a huge thank you to Kumbu and all his superbly detailed reports. Not only are they fun and entertaining, but they're also very informative.
I've only had one trip to Thailand and at the time I stuck entirely to MPs. Was too intimidated by the go-go bars to give them a try. As a quiet, shy, non-confrontational guy, I was paranoid that I would just end up cornered by some girl I wasn't interested in and be too timid to blow her off. Felt much more comfortable with fishbowls where I could choose whoever I wanted.
Since I avoided go-gos, I blew off Nana and Pattaya wasn't even in consideration. After reading Kumbu's reports and getting a much better feel for what the go-gos are like, I'm very interested in trying them out next time I go over there.
So thanks, Kumbu, for some of the best posts I've read on this site!
Please don't let me grow old!
Nothing is finer after a night of sex then the roll her over and have bouts of 2 am and 4 am sex. Then having a nice cup of coffee or tea while getting a BBBJ just starts my day. Followed by watching them naked ironing my shirts and a quick last parting shot before going off to work.
Now having the same girl around all the time is a pain in the arse. But building a stable that you train and educate to your satisfaction is always enjoyable.That's awesome for sure! But it's not every BG that will give you a BBBJ when you wake up.
Me too. When I was younger I would never dream of taking a girl ST. It had to be LT or nothing and LT would often mean days or even weeks, if I really liked her. Now, unless I really connect with a girl, ST is de rigeur, and I seldom ask a girl to spend the night. As you say, if she is a keeper, you can always get her CP No and see her the next day.
Also, unlike when I was a sprog, these days I prefer caffeine over sex in the morning so unless she can make a mean latte, I don't want her around when I wake up.
Funny how a person changes as they age.I agree. I used to be only LT until the beginning of this year. Now I prefer ST because my personal time is more valuable to me at this point.
By doing ST (unless you really connect) saves you money, eliminates a bad nights sleep, you avoid psychos that don't want to leave, and you don't wake up going "WTF did I do! " if you're next to a fugly you thought was a stunner. I like to preserve the memories and eat falang food in the morning instead of waking up to a fully cooked thai dinner for breakfast.
Instead of banging a chick the evening, then banging the same on the morning, I'd rather pay ST both times and experience more.
Redfield10
02-21-10, 09:50
Enjoy while you want to. LOL.
It's not that the change is bad; it's just "different. " LOL.
Please don't let me grow old!
Nothing is finer after a night of sex then the roll her over and have bouts of 2 am and 4 am sex. Then having a nice cup of coffee or tea while getting a BBBJ just starts my day. Followed by watching them naked ironing my shirts and a quick last parting shot before going off to work.
Now having the same girl around all the time is a pain in the arse. But building a stable that you train and educate to your satisfaction is always enjoyable.
Member #3428
02-21-10, 10:38
That's awesome for sure! But it's not every BG that will give you a BBBJ when you wake up.
Agree but like I said, get a stable and train them.... Mongering takes work, time, effort and investment... it rarely falls into your lap perfectly...
By doing ST (unless you really connect) saves you money,
Everyone says this but HOW? Do the math for me please... I take a girl long time and she knows she's going to have sex multiple times. I never take a girl who thinks they are going to have sex 2 times.
So I shag my LT 2 times at night, and say I only wake up one time in the middle of the night for a night time shag, then a BBBJCIM and a shag in the morning. 2,000 baht + 500 bar fine. 2,500 bhat / 5 finish = 500 baht per shot. How does short time at soi 6 say save me money??? 700 to 1000 for girl and 300 for room. OK I can go walk beach road for hours looking for half way decent talent for 500 to 700 baht for one shot.
Not every girl is willing or able to accepting to do this but I do have more then a hand full on my phone who are wanting this. And all girls that go long time know it is a multiple performance night or they get baht bus fare only.
the best place to catch a baht bus to the Pattaya bus station? Is there a spot where there are regular buses going that way, and a standard fare?
Just take a baht bus to the traffic circle at the end of 2nd road/start of Naklua. Look to your right, there should be a baht bus or 2 waiting near that corner. They can take a few minutes to fill up. I paid 20b at first, until I saw some people were paying 10b. Now I also pay 10b, no problems.
Dr Travel Man
02-21-10, 12:40
Please don't let me grow old !!!!
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Wisest comment you have ever made! Anyone who says there is anything good about getting old is liar!!!
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